New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1892-12-20
r. DE LESSEPS EXAMINED.
uE DESCRIBES THE BLACKMAIL LEVIED
on THE PANAMA COMPANY.
voyEY PAID TO JOURNALISTS AND PERSONS IN
.,,rrv-ruE GUARANTEEING SYNDICATES
THE MoCIDATOR OF TIE COM
p,yY TEsrIrIES ABOUT BARON
rrrX,Cu,S OPERATIONS.

ErINACu'S OPERATIONS.
,,,;s Dcc 1o.-M. Charlie, d. IcsScps las been
.,o..lv questioned hy the examining magistrate
- rsrard 10 the statements made by VI. DE ~
w.,,s,Ie REGARDING conversations With VI. Charles
=, Lessons La Marzenc represents Mofhihan II!
~ Chomber of IDENTITIES In 1890 he cndcaVorfI
" hing On a discussion in the Chamber relative
=. ,bc pc-itions about tic Panama loans, and IL
- q, that time that he had the conNelsatlon9
,r;tb NJ Charles de Lesscps. HE latter sa!d Ill
~. oose Of tie Sucz Canal the expenses Tor adj
,;s;nr and press notices were small. IN was
,'sa,nn. with the Panama enterprise. journalists
~-oudad 70 fine offices and had 10 he paid 1or
easing attacks on the company Ll't!c snec's
wsre started against the enterprise, ana Ncne OF
ho opnonents were satisfied 20 receive MY francs
~ .wepty-fve francs. Others were more exact
W " Tho, there were the guaranteeing Syndi-
Gates. composed Of hrce and small banking e'
."hI;shments which had TO he paid for recciv-
;rr subscriptions 10 the loanS. Again, th"r"
,rero neople in society who bod TO he paid for
aot;n, voli Of The company or for Tciranng
,ron, attacks on it, 1hso persons H. de lcsscps
go, ,,or. e>octing than the journalists.
NJ Il. Ia Narzolle also referred "a VI. Il" lrsscpss
.,o.o,,.s ahoJ, fhe contractors having enriched
,homss,ves This. W. de lessc:'s said was nothing
ov,rao,dinarv The attention OF VI. de ies'cps
hos ,lso hocn ,aIrd to hi> former statement, when
oo,f,ontod with W. dc j.aunay, 10 this elect
"1f had 70 pay by years Imprisonment for
wba. hove done. should CONGRATULATE myself
on ich; beir1 thrown on this affair
Tho examination Of W. d" j.csscps has been
mite as rIedly conducted a. that Of an ordinary
crimiral, but ne ana his associates have nor been
subjected TO tic iadisnitcs of personal me'S'r"
mcpt, etc. t. which persons accused 'l sihH'r
,,mcs usually suffer. II is said that from i'''
IA 900 persons of various stations in life are
known 70 have hoen implicated in the frauds ard
bribc-takiug connected with the canal enterprise,
o although the Govunment Ia, no; sufficient cYi-
dence to convict any such number
w. Monchcourt, lrl1ida'cr of the Panama
Canal COMPANY, was before the Parliamentary IN
vestigating Committee for the second tlnc to-"aT.
When exan;in.6 two week ago. NJ Monchcourt
excused his rc,iCcEc" ~ the ground OF probes
sional secrecy Jo-daY hc testified more freely,
although occas onaliy qn,stious were repeated sew
eral times before he gave the desired answer lie
was especially rcicf ant when the committee came
10 the notorious Efforts 0: l;alon Rcinach in lsSs
to save the com?any, then in extremity. In
that year. W. Moncicourt said, Baron Rcnacn re-
ceivcd from lhc corlpanv'> treasury 2p0o.uco
francs, credited u him for "advcTtisng, AMI
5000 900 francs credited to him accoun, OF the
Underwriting >yndicltc'
W. Monchcourt, learning OF thc,r enormous pay
ments as6el Daioa Einach how the money was T.
bc used. Tho Baron replied: You are very
simple
b. inquiry among tine directors OF the Panama
Canal Company the witness learned that tie
100000 francs We're given to he Baron as thc
price Of his assistance in securing the issue OF the
Panama Canal lottery Joan. Not small part OF
this assistance consisted in pushing through Par
lament the bill authorizing the loan.
NJ Mouchcourt had often heard the directors
complain of BIron Rcinach's rapa,ious demands
and had witnessed violent scenes at the Canal
Company's Offices when these demands were un Ter
discussion Re did not know the name of The
holder, # the bons au p'reur, repre- 'rntIhS
100000 fran - although nc heevcd tnat many
Of them had l,ern discussed in connection WIN
the discountne oprratioI> transacted by VI. Cor
ncliuz Herr The payment Of ,ooO,ooO lr1n'S
20 the underwriting syndicate which 'ook th" lot
tery is, e. NJ Monchi our, said, was undoubtedly
excessive.
In continuing his testimony, W. Monchieo1r'
soij that several SIMS. amounting 10 lo,oDo,opV
francs had hren given TO persons 10 induce them
to boom tie Panama loans lie had never hcaih
i. expressly S:atcd that Deputies were bought
for cash Many cheeks, however, were payap'
p,cre. 70 bearer NJ Obcrdocrfcr received p
100000 francs for merely suggesting The device
OF lottery.
After NJ. Monchicourt left the room the chair
man read letter from VI. Casteilon 10 the effect
that Senator Paul Deycs had caSh"d for friend
a check for 10000 nancs given by Baron
Rcinach 10 establish tie Nouvc1e Presse, an
organ os the Panama Canal interests
NJ Hisrounas, cashier of the Panama Canal
Coulpany. testified that Baron Rcnach had re-
oeived 4,000,OOO francs altogether for advertis-
lroo purposcs NJ Kcener another cashier of the
company said that enormous amounts were paid
ont for advertising purposes but he could not re-
member who drew them.
The Commission adjourned until Wednesday.
when NJ Fioqnet will be examined.
The EoLo," Of this city, to-day Published an
intervie. with NJ. Cornelius Herr who, it is
charged. is deeply implicated in the Panama Cnnal
scandal. In the interview VI. Herr declares tiat
he had nOthn. 10 do with the aflalrs 81 the
Panama Company. AT the time IL IS charged that
the wholesale bribery WAS going 0n-ln leSS-Ne
was living in Frankfort, Hernany. lie then re-
cevcd two checii- Tor 5000 francs each from
Baron R,naci, but these checks were gwen lh
settlement OF a private debt. VI. Herr says he
instructed the ROtischiGS, OF frankfort 10 place
the amounts of tlIes. checks u his credit with
the Rothschids OF Paris, aud aftcrward he used
in his private affairs the total SUN called for by
the two checks.
Tho Echo adds that IN 1889 VI. Herr applied
TO the United States Legation for a passport.
His papers were Irregular and MI McLanc. thcn
American Minister hc>ltaed 70 issue . passport
TO him. When he found that there was som"
question about the legations liTht 10 issue the
passport. VI. Herr made lavish gifts 20 the Amcri-
can charities in Paris IL the mean tinlr urging that
the passport be given him. lie succeeded finally
in obtaining the desired document. which was
issued 10 him by the authorities az Washington, TO
whom tho ease was referred by the legation.
Since that time M Herr has not visited the Le2a-
ton, and hes not been Seea in American society.
London, Dec: l9.-M. Cornelius Herr mas neon
in bed sincc Friday at tire Burlington Hotel, suf-
ferng from nervous prostration. His only com.
pany is an unknown wOman, who has declared
thar the interview in the Paris Echo is hcii-
tious and that no person except herself and tho
doctor has seen NJ. Herr.
There is In the above dispatches statement which
sets at rest the started by the adversaries Of
the Rlbot Ministry. 10 the effect that Messrs Charles
De Lesscps Fontanc and sans-Leroy were trentcd III
Nazas Jail with special severity II Is said now that
"they have not been subjected to TIC indcniiy OF