The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1892-02-14
WESTERN POLITICS.
HIS Resrins. Asseciations. and Isea

HIS Rearing, Associations. and 1aeas.
WARRINGTON. Fob. 13.-At tho dinner to Com
nandcr Schey. Senator Cullom Of Illinois be-
s.n general conversation. portions OF which
NAV reveal to tho reader some incidents In
Che fc Of ono who has for several years been
considered Presidential possibility. and
since Blaine's decllnstlon lie In the 1eld.
Mr. Cullom appears to be from IS to 90 years
q, age. and has a tall. slender. straight. wiry
seure He has had long career in tho Legis-
iature. Congress. tho Executive chamber OF
Illinois, and In the Senate As he sits at little
distance from one. say across the table at tho
echley banquet, his resemblance to Mr.. Lin
soIn Ia quite marked. He has q good
forehead. which Is corrugated whom he raises
bis eyebrows. Q slender face. and when he
.nrn., which is often. his eyes look to DO
ANAL and are almost closed His address Is
soiphbory. and shows both his Southern and
western extraction. and good disposition.
combined with frmness. no pretence OF char
acter. and considerable acuteness. are i'm
pressed uron his visitor. Said L:
II suppose you knew Mr.. Lincoln wellf"
MY father took me to Mr.. Lincoln to have
me study law. Lincoln told my father that he
-culd not give me the attention I ought to
have. the catechising and directing OF my
studies as he WIS then much engaged and
good deal absent He advised that BIO turned
over to firm Of lawyers. one Of whom was
eonnectlon OF Mr.. Lincoln-Mr. Edwards
with Thorn I studied law. saw Mr.. Lincoln.
however constantly and became his friend"
did he care much about money. as lawyers
do in these daysT
NO It was Q secondary matter with him.
He would 60 out on the circuit to practise and
after some time como home with his fees
sparatclywrappcd up in little pieces OF paper.
which no would mark with the name Of the
person who paid It and the amount: one would
be- $40. another s25. anotherSl5 and he would
then divide with his partner. Herndon."
You do not mean to say that Lincoln would
10 out and do all that work aud give one-half
to as plain lawyer as Herndon1"
Eyes. but Herndon was not q bad lawyer.
In small cases no had quito o reputation. As
alswyer In hog case. for instance. which was
the most frequent cause OF lawsuits. Herndon
would give great deal OF effort for the amount
OF money he received He is the man who
wrote some books about Mr.. Lincoln. and q
rather chatty book toward the last, in three
volumes which newspaper man got up with
him. He collected . deal Of matter more or
loss suggestive about Mr.. Lincoln. Some
thought he exposed too much that may have
been or may not have been homely 10 Lin
coins career. The fact is that Herndon. who
Is now dead. and died very poor. had but little
common-sense saGacity. For instance. one Of
his relatives left him farm on the Sanga-
mon River. He dropped the law and went up
there to be fancy farmer and propagate high
kinds OF stock-hogs. horses. sheep. 30. I met
him once. and he looked as much like a tramp as
man could look who had once been lawyer
and said 1: Billy. are you making this thing
payp oh. lord said he. I am rolling In
wealth. Tho animals keep moving and the
live stock grows while am asleep. You never
saw anything like it. At that time the poor
fellow. suppose. could hardly buy his shoes.
Herndon was Of the opinion that he had dis
covered Lincoln. and that LIncoln's ONCE COM
municadon with him had been of great SER
vice to Uncle Abe. He expected. therefore. as
in the case Of the fees. to get one-half OF Lin
coins patronage at Washington. Lincoln
thought that the Post Office at Springfield was
. good divide with him. and from that time on
Herndon soured upon him. and finally formed
the opinion that he was an overrated man."
Resuming the above conversation at Mr.. Gull
lom's residence. which ia the property Of ex-
Senator Baysrd OF Delaware. found him In
his library In the second story. rear. where. at
the tops Of the bookcases. were pictures OF
yarlous public men. At home Mr.. Cullom re-
ceives his constituents from all over the State.
including the more than million represented
from Chicago. I observed here that he had
an sauiline nose. decided feature in his face.
chin like that Of Mr.. Lincoln. hollow at the
cut and wide In the jaw; mouth sweet but of
decision. and somewhat hollow cheeks. He
talks frankly and laughingly. with earnest
passages, and in repose his face is serious
Everybody at springfield" he said. "remem-
bers Lincoln with kindness. He was never
two.iaced. His humor and his courage were as
marked as his kindness He had what is
called cunning In the best sense. q sagacity
that was like comedy. and made you smile
without rejecting that he meant anything
evil. / was In politics at Springfield before he
had his debate with Douglas. I was the pub
lie attorney. a member OF the Legislature.
and when he was nominated for President
was Speaker OF the Lower House. When he
was nominated and strangers began to throng
to Springfield from all over the world. I took
charge for while Of the general reception.
when the first arrivals came and the house
was crowded. remember looking at Lin
coins high stature-he was feet A.
and his countenance was really noble
thought. making him look like the
choice OF nation for their magistrate He
conducted himself with dignity. and any Idea
We might have had as townsmen that he
would fall below the mark disappeared from
shat first day. He was. however. tenacious.
Ike politician. OF q part OF the patronage. I
came on to sec him to have the Collector and
postmaster at Springfield made. I waited
around some time and did not get his promise.
finally went up to him and said: Mr.. Lin
ooan. am going home: why can't you give me
those two odlcssl' Now said he. you
may have the Colectorship. but the Post Offlce