The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-11-02

minister, everyone else having failed
VINO had been asked To fill il. Then
tne question arose as to confidence.
ihe vote was "a to 81 against the Cab
met. Did they go out? Not much.
iney were there to stay. Instead of
nillDusterlng, the Reform party went
about It's business, until 1t hat A large
majority 1t is charged that this ma
Jority was obtained by bribery. What
was the situation? On the original
vote several of the members-of the
2l-had stated that they were OPP
posed to the Cabinet and were only
waiting for one thing. What could
the Cabinet expect? With n against
them, with number of others wait
ing to vote against them, unless they
did specific thing? Anybody out
side OF an insane asylum would have
daily expected a vote of want of con-
hdence. Yet when it came, they
shouted bribery-Of which there is
not particle of evidence. The result
was simply the logical working out of
the situation. They raise the cry of
corruption because they know of no
other means by which men can be in.
hnenced. They have employed those
methods and no others for years.
1,OWt NIL Il w iltU Tic stCOliu
National Reform Cabinet was voted
out by majority of 81 to 10, do we
see them quietly submitting? No.
We see Mr.. Macfarlane spending half
his time trying to form a new Cab
met. We see Mr.. Peterson going
around at night trying to do the same
thing.
Noble Peterson: Do you mean what
you say?
Noble Thurston do.
Noble Peterson: Then / say it is
falsehood.
Noble Thurston: 1t is true, and
nave the statement from the members
who were approached.
Noble Peterson said the member
knew perfectly well that he had
signed that resolution conditionally
only.
Noble Thurston said the exception
made by the member was printed in
the newspapers, and everybody knew
it. 1t was, if Cabinet of men should
be called in whom the whole country
would have confidence-such as Sam
Damon, etc. The facts showed that
this little faction of six was the party
of rule or ruin, and they were crying
"StOp thief" when they were the
thieves themselves. There was a
Cabinet presented to us which was
supposed to be appointed in accord
with Constitutional principles. What
principle could that be? Was it the
principle which had been supported
by Noble Macfarlane, Noble Williams
and Noble Peterson, that the majority
should rule? No; it was a Cabinet
brought in by a little clique which
was determined to rule or ruin, which
was forcing Her Majesty into dark
and dangerous path, and was preju-
dicial to the interests of the country
He commended that this course was
revolutionary and unheard of in this
country, and it must be stopped here,
and now. 1t was useless to appro-
pirate money. Not one dollar should
be spent until there was a Constitu-
tional Cabinet. He moved the reso-
luton be adopted.
Noble Peterson had listened to a
portion of the argument of the Noble
for Maui-if argument it could be
called. He had gone into ancient
history, and stated what everybody
knew. Noble Thurston The whole
of it p Yes, the whole of it, even to
your Measurements. We are all used
to those. 1t looked as though the
speech was made for the benefit of a
foreign newspaper. The speech was
made of it's usual two elements-an-
cient history and personal abuse. Not
more than three or four words had
been devoted to the Cabinet. The
whole tissue of it was misrepresenta-
ton. He said little clique had made
the Cabinet that was not true. II
had not made the Cabinet. No men,
Der of his party, so far as he knew,
had gone about trying to make a
Cabinet. He knew that he at
any rate had not. The Noble had
made reference to the principle
that the majority should be recog-
niZed in the Cabinet, and to the reso-
luton of the House, which the
speaker had only signed with the
| qualification that circumstances might
| arise which would make it impossible
to carry out. There were numerous
reasons to-day why that principle
should not be recognized. The action
of the Reform party was simply this
They had the right to put out any
Cabinet. They wished to arrogate tC
themselves the right to dictate the
Cabinet. That was unsound, and thai
| was lIic ISSUE 1IC 1CSOlutlOll
presented gave no reasons, and there
! fore there was no room for argument
upon it. He should not have spoken
except to reply to the expressions o
the Noble. He would move the pre-
vious question.
The motion was lost.
Rep. Kapahu moved the resolution
be laid on the table. He did not thinl
it should be discussed at great length
1t was useless to bring up ancien
history. In the time of Mr.. Gibson
the Reform party had given feast
and gin, and so brought about thu
downfall of Mr.. Gibson. HI
knew of no principle requiring He
Majesty to appoint Cabinet from tn,
majority. He saw no reason for thi
resolution and could not account 70
it's having crawled in this morning
He moved the resolution be laid OF
the table.
Rep. Wilder moved the ayes ant
noes be called.
The motion to lay on the table wa:
lost on the following division:
Ayes-Nobles Hopkins, Pua, Will
liams, Male; Reps. Pua, Koahou
Kaunamano, Kapahu, Nahum, White
Kanealii and Edmonds-12.
Noes-Nobles Ena, Cummins, Hind
Hoapili, Marsden, Young, Baldwin
w. Y. Horner, Walbridge, Anderson
n II