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St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
WAYS OF The BORROWER.
just One of Many Ahrewd Tricks
by Which Some Men Live.

CuSC one Oh MANY ShfcWo 4ElCAS
by Which Some Men Live.
Boston Herald
One of the best agents of large Bos-
ton house has propensity for spending
more than he earns and borrowing from
friends to keep things moving. During
successful trip to Springfield he ran
short. and borrowed from a number of
his customers. One man who loaned
him SO began to get anxious about it,
and wrote several letters to him, in care
of the Boston Office.
The agent tore them up as fast as he
received them, and consigned the pieces
to the waste basket without thought.
The Springfield man decided to make
aytrip to Boston, and leave an order
with one of the wholesale houses for
his line OF goods. Before leaving home
he determined to call on the agent,
the intention of collecting the $40, but
the order was to be given to another
firm.
When he called upon the agent he had
worked himself to the highest pitch of
Indignation, with the intention of CIV
ing free expression to his opinion of
men who borrow money and do not re-
turn it. ~e-@ -'si us.'-.@
The Springfield man walked into the
Office with fire in his eyes. But it had
no effect on the agent. When he
recognized his creditor he jumped up,
grasped his hand, said he was glad to
see him, and inquired about all the
folks.
THAT'S all right" said the Spring
field man, ''but will have to take my
money out in bluff"
.sAIv dear follow - said tha oUpnt 81
must confess am ashamed of myself.
received your letters and always laid
them aside with the intention of send
ing the money that day. but, really, the
matter always seemed 10 slip my mind.
l cannot tell you how badly l feel
about it. How much Gid 1 get that
time?'
Ten dollars" said the Springfield
man, beginning to feel that perhaps he
had been little too hasty.
''Ten dollars, yes" said the agent,
effusively; '.just step this way and l
will get it for YOU" Then going to the
bOokkeeper, he Said: 'Just let Mr.. j.
have SO. will you, Fred?o
The bookkeeper handed over the
money without any trouble, and the
Springfield man became very strongly
of the opinion that ne had made mis-
take In FORMING SUCH al unIdVOraDie
estimate of the agent. His man
ner changed, and, after talking awhile,
the two became as close friends as ever.
The Springfield man then thought it
better to lead the agent to believe that
b had not come to the city for the spe
cial purpose of collecting the $40. and
spoke about the order he wanted filled.
He finally gave it to the agent.and went
home satisfied that he had made mis-
take and atoned for it.
In due time the order arrived. With
it came the bill. The Springfield man
looked it over, and when he reached the
last item opened his eyes very wide.
This was the item:
To borrowed money. ...............1...S $40
The agent had made no explanation to
the bookkeeper and had allowed matters
to take their course. The Springfield
man now gets his orders filled elsewhere.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
SNOW ON THE COAST.
Electric Lines suffer Severed
From the Storm

Electric Lines suffer Severely
From the Storm
PoRTL AND, Or, Dec. 21.-Reports
from all parts of Oregon, Washington
and British Columbia show that the
snow storm was general today. though
the temperature has not gone below
20 deg above zero in Western Oregon.
Snow has fallen TO depth of from five
to ten inches in the valleys. Telegraph
and telephone companies have eXpe-
rienced considerable trouble south
of here because of snow breaking
down wires and poles. Trains on
the Southern Pacific, however, arrived
Oh time today In Western Oregon the
temperature is below freezing, and at
Pehdleton about one foot of snow has
fallen. Stock men are preparing Tor
severe weather. In Western Washing
ton the snowfall has beenheavy tor this
time of the year. Trains on the North
ern Pacific and Union Pacific are run-
ming with only slight delay, though
snow ploughs have Teen utilized at sew
eraI points in the mountains. 1t is still
showing tonight, and indications point
to continued snow for tWenty-four
hours.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Tennyson and Bores.

Boston Globe.
Lord Tennyson was sociable with a
few intimate friends, but he always en-
tertained profound contempt for
bores. This trait was illustrated one
day. when two ladies, who had made
pilgrimage to see his home, ap-
preached his gate.
They saw the poet walking. Although
they were strangers, they finally
plucked up courage and entered the
grounds. The old man froWned when
they approached.
''Lord Tennyson,' said one of the
ladies in her Softest tones.
"Yes," he responded.
"Oh we are SO glad to see you. We
have come far to see you. We have
read your poems and wanted to see the
writer. l know it is unwarranted; but,
really, you understandable temptation
was too great. fear that we are great
intruders."
Here the poet blew Whit from his
pipe.
well. why don't you go, then?" he
remarked
1t is needless to say that the ladies de-
parted.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Saw the Moon Go Round.

Kansas City Journal.
There is little boy at my place."
said the thin young man, shaking the
pepper over his eggs; "a five-year-old
we call Johnny. Johnny had been told
that the moon goes around the earth,
and the other night he was out making
astronomical observations. Pretty
soon the little fellow came running in
and said:
"'Oh, mamma, l saw the moon going
round the world
Ibid you, dear?'
eyes. l saw it run up past two
Clouds
land which way was it going"
sit was going down Thirteenth
street,"
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
A Serious Charge Brought
Against a South Dakota
Section Foreman.
He Is Accused Of Having
Taken the Life of Thomas
Clifford.
Electric Lines Suffer Serious.
ly From the Storm Along =
the Pacific.
An Attempt to Be Made to
Bring Annie Murphy Back
to Minnesota. .
Special to the Globe.

Speclai 10 the GlODe. -
MILBANK. S. D., Dec. 2l.-Rlchard
Laughlin, OF Watertown, section sfore-
man on the Minneapolis q st. Louis
railroad, is having preliminary hear
ing before City Justice Pasco, charged
with numbering Thomas Clifford one
year ago today. Clifford was station
agent at Albee, this county. on the Great
Northern railroad, and was found one
morning dead headforemost in a barrel
of water. No formal inquest was held,
as the coroner was satisfied the death
was clear case of suicide. Re Gently
Clitford's widow conceived the idea her
husband was murdered, though no mo-
tive is assigned. Laughlin and the de-
ceased were good friends. and the de-
PENDANT has always sustained the best
kind of character, and not a solitary
person who knows him believes he is
guilty. Public opinion is united that he
will be discharged. The action of the
widow in bringing the charge at this
late date is puzzle.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
AFTER AN.~l4. IURPHY.
The Lady Will he Brought Back
to Minnesota.

Special to the Globe
ST.. CLOUD, MIMI, Dec. 21,-The au-
thorities here received a telegram today
from the chief of police of Mobile, Ala,
saying that Albert Dooittle, an accom-
plce of Mrs. Annie Nj. Murphy, who
obtained $4,000 from ST. Cloud banks
by forged drafts, had made a written
confession. E. E.. Searles, president OF
the German American National bank,
SWore out warrant for Doolittle'S ar
rest. 1t was placed in the hands OF
Deputy Sheriff Murphy, who leaves for
Alabama tomorrow, stopping at st. Paul
for requsition papers. The other Off
GERS, who ale now Oh Their. way to Ala
bama to get Mrs. Murphy, will await
the arrival of the deputy, and the en-
tire party will return together to Min
neSOta.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
1t Was His KoyaItx Won.

Prince Leopold of Prussia, the second
cousin of the emperor of Germany, who
took part in the recent long-distance
ride between Berlin and Vienna, has
recovered at last from the effects of the
race. Owing to the courtesy of Lieut..
Heydt. contestant, his royal highness
was allowed to reach the goal first. The
lieutenant has been rewarded with all
imperial decoration for his refusal to
pass the prince when near Vienna.
Prince Leopold is slight young man,
rather handsome, but with little resem-
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
DE LEUI& RETURNS.
He Is Crazy and Will Be Taken
to Oshkosh.

to Oshkosh.
MILWAUKEE, Dec. 21.-Col. Albert
De Leur was brought to Milwaukee to-
day. His return was made the more
interesting by an attempt to serve some
papers on him in civil suit brought
by Spence & Siegler. real estate
agents, to recover 2,100. The
attempt was not successful, as
the attending physician would not
allow the deputy sheriff to see the
colonel. The suit grows out of real
estate deal. There is no doubt among
Col. DE Leur's friends that his difficulty
with Spence q Siegler was brought
about by his unbalanced mind. His
condition has caused any amount Of
trouble in other deals which he is en-
gineering. In some cases persons find
themselves in possession of property for
which they have no use, but which they
purchased, expecting that the colonel
would sell it to third parties. There is
no suspicion of crookedness about the
deals, but it is decided inconvenience
to the holders. Drs. Ladd and Carlson,
who examined DE Leur as to his mental
condition, have no hesitation in pro-
nouncing him insane, and he will be re-
moved to Oshkosh.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22

PnLADELPHIA Dec. 21.-The big
dress goods and clothing mills of F. A.
Bachman & Co., at Second and Cambria
streets, this city, were almost entirely
destroyed this afternoon by fire which
originated in the basement from spon-
taneous combustion. Loss, 1885, 600;
covered by insurance. On the west
side of Second street, opposite the mill,
row of seventeen small houses was
badly damaged, entailing loss of about
$4,000. SulAXan's hosiery mill was
damaged $1,000 worth by water.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Prince Albert and Archduchess
Margaret.

There Will be some delay in the ex.
pected wedding bet ween Prince Albert
of Wurtemberg and Archdnchess Mar
garet, niece OF the emperor of Austria,
sketches of both of whom appeared in
the Evening Post re Gently. 1t was to
have occurred in January. but many
orders for the wardrobe of the arch
duchess have been countermanded.
The ostensible reason for postponement
is the recent death of Queen Olga.
Prince Albert belongs to the ducal, not
the royal, line; but he might succeed to
the kingly title and throne if he were
not Catholic. Only Protestants are eli
gibIe. and it is limited that Prince AL
bert may qualify himself soon by con-
version.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Columbus on the Stage.

Detroit Free Press.
The English actor, Charles Warner, is
among the players who intend to make
a tour of the United States next year,
and he will bring with him a four-act
drama, written for him by Henry Hamil-
ton, of which Columbus is the hero. The
famous explorer, who, of course. will
be impersonated by MIR. Warner, ap-
pears as the hero of love story, and
conducts himself with very little respect
for history.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Finding Wealth in Flowers.

Chicago Tribune
Women are achieving cOnsid cradle
success in their new business as florists.
and several of them, including Miss
Eadie.o Cleveland; Mrs. Berger. of San
Francisco. and Mrs. Nichols, of
Texas, are we'll known 40 dec
orators. Notable among them is
Mrs. Williams, OF Cleveland, who
commenced business in a small way.
and after course of practical lessons
with florist about two years ago. Now
her greenhouses cover an area of 10000
feet, and she is reco nIZed as the lead
ing floral artist of TIE city. Most of her
work is done by girls, among whom she
organized clubs and societies. placing
her own reception rooms at their serY-
ice
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
looted a Faro Bank.

TACOMA, WASH, Dec. 81. = Two
masked men entered the Warwick sa-
loon about midnight last night, and.
with drawn revolvers, commanded seven
men who were playing faro to throw up
their hands. One Of the robbers walked
up to the table and pnt $1,000 in coin in
his overcoat pocket, while the other
stood at the rear door, moving revolver
back and forth to cover the entire group.
With the words ''Good night. gentle
men," the robbers stepped out the back
door and disappeared.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
arbitrary School Board

Special to the Globe.
DELANo. Dec. 2l.-Quite an excite
ment has been stirred up here by the
arbitrary methods of our board of edu-
cation in discharging several pupils
from school because of damage done to
books and other property belonging to
the district. Parents were asked to pay
list price for text books slightly dam
aged, and on neglectlng or refusing 20
do so found their children suspended
from school,
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
TODAY'S WEATHER.

WASHINGTON. Dec. 81. = For Wisconsin.
Iowa and Minnesota: Fair; northwest Wills
colder. For North and South DAKOTA "eh
orally fair; north winds; colder' eAceP'
northwest portion of North Dakota for
Montana: Occasional SHOWS; north to east
winds; rising temperature i'll western portloh'
GENERAL OBSERVATIONS.
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRIcuLT-
IRE, WEATHER BUREAU. WASHINGTON. Dec
81, 6:iS D. m. Local Time, : p. m. 18th Merld'
ian Time observations taken az the sam
moment of time 1T all stations.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Life Is Cheap.
Herald

New York Herald
Submarine boats are no longer nov
city, flying machines are confidently
predicted, and NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS.
electric road from Chicago to st. Louis
is already projected. And yet amid all
this whirl of progress and invention
three more brakemen were yesterday
mangled while coupling cars.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Her Use of the Franchise.

:'Were you allowed to vote" said he.
AS through the sheltered lane they strayed,
what would you vote for-ansWer me-
Protection or free trade!"
The gentle maiden hung her head.
While to her cheek the color flew;
II would not care To vote, she said;
I'D rather pair with YOU"
Cape Cod Item.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
A Husbands Rights.

New 7 Ork Herald.
Hereafter in England, according to a
recent decision, a man can sue the
preachers for soaring his wife into going
to church instead of staying home and
cooking his dinner. 1t is a little diff
ficult to tell where religion ends and in
timidatiOn begins.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Be What You Are.

Detroit Free Press.
Associate reverently and as much as
you can with your Hottest thoughts.
Mans noblest gift to man is his SINGER
ity, for it embraces his integrity
also. The finest uses of things
are the accidental. Routine is a
ground to stand on, wall to retreat
to. Be resolutely and faithfully what
you are, be humbly what you aspire to
be. Disappointment will make US con-
yersant with the nobleSt part Of our
nature. We render men the best assist
ance by letting them see how rare a
thing it is to need any assistance.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
JOCoSE JINGLES.

"The survival of the tittest'
Is phrase that's rather rude.
1t suggests that the cnrysanthe-
Mum will one day wear the dude.
-Washingt on Star.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22

blanee to tine HOhenzOllerns. His
father, Prince Frederick Charles, known
in three wars as the Red Prince" was
one of the wealthiest men in Germany.
Prince Leopold. who is married, lives
great part of the year at Castle Glien
ecke, near Berlin
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Defense ofthe Corset.

Punxsutawney Spirit.
A corset steel saved young lady OF
Philadelphia from being pierced to the
vitals by dagger in the hands of DIES.
perate aud rejected lover the other day.
We make this statement in vindication
of the much-abuSed corset. which,
though denounced by dress reformers
and physicians, still continues to occupy
a very enviable position.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22

GLOBES purpose to Inquire. But for
the editor of the Carrollton Conserva-
tive, whose publication of the scurrilous
correspondence brought about the trag
edy, we would cheerfully recommend
coat of tar and feathers and an enforced
emigration to Mexico or Senegambia.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
His Father-in-Law suicided.

Special to the Globe.
MANKATo, Mimi, Dec. 21.-The an
nouncement of the suicidal death of
Thomas Engle, of Spirit Lake, To-,
father-in-law of Frank Giefer, reached
here today. Giefer is in Jail awaiting
trial for the murder Of William Roway
last fall. Giefer seems uncOncerned
over the news.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
To Fight the Trust.

MILWAUKEE, Dec. 2L.-A gigantic
100000 distillery, the biggest of this
country, will be established here in the
near future to fight the whisky trust.
The details are still kept secret. A dis
tillery company of Pekln, ILL.,, is said>to
be the instigator of the new enterprise.
and it is further learned that the plant
of the Falk, Jung & Borchert company,
which short time ago was consolidated
with the Pabst Brewing company. will
be bought by the syndicate to save the
time necessarily consumed in the cree
ton of a new plant.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
On His WAY to Texas.

WEST SUPERIOR, Wis. Dec.-Billy
Leroy, allaf Edwards, alias Texas
jack" who was arrested some days ago
was released yesterday, but was imme-
diately rearrested on requisition from
the governor of Texas. Leroy is wanted
in Denison for quadruple murder COM
mitted last year. lie left for Texas last
night
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Santa Claus Coming.

Our old friend Santa Claus is gay:
No obstacle his coming bars
He has his private deer and sleigh
And doesn't need the cable cars.
Washington Star.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Fell Fifteen Feet.

Special to the Globe.
MILBANK, S. D., Dec. 21.-S. S. Lock
hart, well known lawyer of this city,
accidentally fell from his second-stOry
Office window this evening distance of
fifteen feet to the icy sidewalk below.
The extent of his injuries is not yet
fully known, but his head is cut in tYO
places and his left leg injured.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22

that lLass would be, celebrated at Can
ton on Christmas day is incorrect. No
service will be held there on that day.
The bishop hopes that his statement in
regard to the window, made. public yes
terday. will result in stopping the pill
grimages to that place. 1t it does not,
some more stringent means will be
taken to bring about that result.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Collision on the Great western.

Collision on the Great Western.
Dies MONIES, To-, Dec. pa passen-
gen train on the Chicago Great Western
railroad near here this morning came
into collision with freight train within
a rod of long, high trestle. James
Bolen. of Kalamazoo, Mich, was seri-
ously hurt. The other passengers and
the trainmen escaped with bruises.i
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
BALLoTED IN VAIN.
The Jury in the Indian Case
Could Not Agree.

MADISON, Wis, Dec. 21.-Twenty-slx
hours were spent in the jury room, with
the exception of the time spent in going
to meals, by the jury in the trial of Ko-
sine and Money Penny, the Chippewa
Indians charged with the murder of
Boneash and his squaw on the Odanah
reservation. The jury was brought
into court at O'Clock this afternoon.
All the balloting had been in vain. and
they had to report to Judge Bum that
all agreement was impossible. The
Jury stood to for aceuittal.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
The Ideal Woman.

She's sweeter than the new blown rose;
She makes mems hearts go piL-ap pat
Whene'er a glance at them she throws.
She's always dressed in tasteful clothes,
And sense and dignity she shows,
For when to see a play she goes
She wears a low crowned hat.
New York PreSs
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Beer and Babies.

Keep your money in your stocking.
Baby mine. baby mine.
Then you'll have it when you wantit,
Baby mine. baby mine.
Don't trust any fiDancier !
On the Western hemisphere
Better blow it i'll for beer,
Baby mine, baby mine.
New York Recorder.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
The Winter Girl.

For months she fiirted by the sea,
With little else but hose on,
Which makes it pleasant, you II agree.
To see her now with clothes on.
Judge.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Caught Cold and Died.

Specialize the Globe
CAssELToN, N. D., Dec, 2l.-About
three weeks ago FL. G. Newton, for thir-
teen years Northern Pacific agent here,
had an operation for catarrh performed
by specialist in st. Paul. He came
home. caught cold, and after a brief
illness, died Wednesday morning. He
leaves about 49, 900 in property to bis
family.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
John S. Trip Married.

Special to the Globe
NoRTHFIELD, Mimi, Dec. 21.-John
S. Trip, a prominent Democratic poll
tician of this city, and Miss Sadie Kan
airy were married this evening at the
home of the brides mother
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
1t Is Too Late Now.

New York World.
1t is ridiculous management for the
Pennsylvania Republicans who oppose
Quayism to wait until this late day to
call for a paddock Tor the senatorial
stable. Quay has the horse.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Rough ON Blonde Gentlemen.

Rough on Blonde Gentlemen.
Texas Siftings.
.'What do you think of Mr.. Thomp-
son. map"
''He seems to be very nice, but 1
would not encourage him if 1 were
YOU"
''Why not. map"
HE has red hair. and red-headed
men are always deceitfui."
''But pa has red hair"
well, not quite red. It's quite red
enough, though"
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Frnny sceoggs.
Philadelphia Record

HIIdutIp IId htCUIU-
How'll we wind up the party?"
asked Scribbs at ar evening gathering
the other night. why, the most ap-
propriate thing to wind up party with
would be reel" said Scroggs.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
Movements of steamshins.

NAOSOKIOHVS OA StCdIHBUIDS.
LIzARD-Passed: Nessmore, Boston; Traye,
New York.
KrNsALE-Passed: Majestic, New York, for
Liverpool.
BEEMEN-Arrived: Dresden, New York.
NEW YoRK-Arrived: Teutonic, Liverpool;
Waesland Antwerp.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22
These Are travelling.

Special to the Globe
New YORK, Dec 2l.-At New York hotels,
From Minneapolis; Mrs. Gutenberg, Miss
Werthauer, Metropolitan; F. l.. Peck, In
perial. Red Wing: L. Foot Aston St. Paul:
w. II. Fisher, d. Grant Aston
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22

WHEN they are through making silver
statues of actresses, the GLOBE will name
several candidates for whom brass honors
would be appropriate.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-12-22

THE department of agriculture offers
compromise to the Philadelphia Record. If
the Record will let up on the department,
the latter will aceep. the Records editor as
its chief At least, that is what 'they say