The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-06-01
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Objection overruled.

Objection OVerruled.
Mr.. HartweIl-I will ask you now
how many statements concerning
meetings have you made if
any besides these meetings which
you attended yourself? A -
made no others; | made a copy
of others; I have other statements
but / made a copy of another
statement, someone else's statement.
The witness continuing stated that
he made no other statement, but
made one copy, made it three days
prior to the arrest. Made it at the
Bungalow, at the request of the Mar
shall. He was present and Instructed
me to make a copy of statement
made by another.
The man who made the statement
was not present at the time. Had no
conversation with the party who
made the statement; the original copy
is in the hands of the Marshal.
Holi made the original, and is a
policeman.
Worked for Bertelman as clerk at a
salary of $40 monthly, until March or
February. Not certain about drawing
pay for March; probably he did.
He drew pay since October, 1891, as
a policeman, and every month there
after.
He carried pistol at most all of the
meetings.
He did not suggest to the members
at the first meeting to arm them
selves.
He has not testified in substance as
to every happening and remark.
No discussion about wrongs done
T T.. 81 H. l.,
had in his statement was all he could
remember. The only discussion was
by Wilcox, claiming that the natives
could not get equal rights while Will
son was Marshal.
When he joined the League he was
not in sympathy with their objects,
but merely Joined as detective.
He did not consider the oath to be
as binding as the oath taken on the
witness stand, but the reason that he
mumbled the words.
He did not ascertain the number OF
members of the League to report to
the Marshal.
He did not remember how many
members were present at each meet
ing, but remembered that about
twenty persons were present on April
IA. Had no way of finding out the
total membership of the League, be-
cause some members were sworn in
on the outside.
In his capacity as n detective he did
not consider it O. enough Importance
to find out the total number of mem
bers.
He attended public meetings of the
Liberal party, but was not q speaker
at any of them.
He always talked in English to
Ashford, and did not know if Ashford
was Hawaiian scholar. Could not
remember at which meeting Wilcox
said they would set aside the Queen.
Could not remember who was present
at the meeting when the words were
uttered. He would not be sure at
which meeting the language was
used.
The witness was allowed to ex-
anime his notes, and then could not
testify as to the exact date.
To set aside the Queen by force was
the remark made at the meeting on
April IA. Wilcox made an explana-
ton and then the new recruits took
the oath. Meeting was held at Ash
ford's house, when remark was
made that 100 pistols were to be pur-
chased.
At this meeting was Bipikane, Ash
ford, Wilcox, himself, Lane and
another. Could not give the exact
date when the remark was made that
they were to attack the Palace.
Ashford stated that it was better to
make the attack before the opening of
the Legislature, as we would have but
a few men to cope with.
Better to make the attack then as
we would have to handle much less
men. Should we be fortunate enough
get>a few more on our side it would
be better for our cause.
Robert Kamaka was then put on
the stand for the prosecution. His
testimony in substance is as follows:
Knows Wilcox; knows Col. V. v.
Ashford, Lane, Bipikane, Nawaakoa;
April last was at meeting above the
Hospital where the men mentioned
were all there; George Nawaakoa in
vited him to join the League.
He saw a large number of people
present, but could not remember all
of the names. AS | came in the house
l saw the parties mentioned. Invited
me in the room, and Wilcox sat by
me. know nothing of the meeting,
as it was over before my arrival.
Wilcox stated that the objects of
the League were to procure equal
rights, and that an effort would be
made at the Legislature for a new
Constitution.
He took the oath he did not re-
member whether the oath was adj
ministered before or after the explain
alton made by Wilcox. The oath
wound up by punishment to traitors
is death" V. V. Ashford read the
oath aloud in English; Wilcox re-
peated it in Hawaiian.
The oath was taken by laying
hand on the Bible.
Fhe house where meeting took
place was on Kinau street, above the
Hospital.
CrOss-eXamined. Nawaakoa did not
go along with him, but said he
would meet him there. Come by way
of kinau street, as he could find the
place much easier
sIHe did not remember if Ashford had
talked about obtaining their ends
through the Constitution.
The Court then adjourned until this
morning.