The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1892-11-24
THE LEGISLATURE.
both DAY.
WEDNESDAY, Nov, %, 1892.
Afternoon Session.
Afternoon Session.

The Assembly was called to order
at l:30 sharp, the following members
answered to the roll call, used for
the first time, in accord with the
resolution passed at the morning
session.
Present-Minister Jones; Mobiles
Walker, Hopkins, Pua, Williams,
Male, Kauhane, j. NJ. Horuer, Hoa-
pill, Marsden, Young, Baldwin, w.
Y. Horner, Walbridge, Anderson
and Dreier; Reps. Bipikane, Ash
ford, Aki, S. X. Pua, Kauhi, II. w.
Wilcox, A. Horner, Kaunamano, Ka-
mauoha, Waipuilani, Kapahu, Ma
hinu, White, Kanealii, Edmonds,
Kalua, Iosepa, Akina and Smith
80.
Observation-Disclosures Wilcox, Robin
son and Brown; Mobiles Berger, Ena,
Peterson, Cummins, Hind, Thurston
and Kanoa; Reps. Wilder, Bush,
Koahou and A. S. Wilcox.-14.
Noble Baldwin moved that the
further consideration of the pro-
posed new Article be deferred until
next Saturday. Carried.
The Appropriation Bill came up
for consideration on the second
reading and Sections | and 2 and the
enacting clause were passed.
Under suspension of the rules the
Appropriation Bill was brought up
on third reading and the items were
ordered considered seriatim.
CIVIL LIST.
Her Majesty's Privy Purse, $4,000
The Minister of Finance present
ed a double item to cover the amount.
One third of the period had passed,
some of the money had been drawn,
he offered and recommended the
passage of two separated items.
Rep. Ashford said that the theory
presented by the Minister of Finance
was wrong i. e. that all overdrafts
should be allowed without recogni-
ton of the deductions proposed by
the Legislature. The proposition of
the Minister would cause the raising
of salaries 33a percent. Those who
had drawn at the old rate should
have to disgorge. Touching upon
the bills passed to enable the pay
ment of salaries until Nov. Both, he
said that he had had the opinion of
one of the judges that the Legisla-
ture could only rightfully pass one
Appropriation Bill and no more.
(Cries of "rot, rot"). Continuing he
said that it might be rot, but the
opinion was not his, if it was rot it
would not be the first sample of
rot from that source. daughter and
applause).
The Minister of Finance said that
money had been appropriated to
cover salaries on the old basis up to
Nov. Both. He had figured the pro-
bable expenditures under Section /
and they footed up S2,706, 460.40 the
estimated revenues excluding any
revenue from an opium license,
should one be passed, amounted to
$2,702,205.74.
Rep. Ashford was opposed to the
method of the Minister Interpreting
the law. The salaries should be
paid in accord with the appropria-
lions made, and not one portion paid
at one rate and another portion at
another rate. Officials who had
overdrawn should refund.
Rep. Smith agreed with the Min
lister of Finance. The only way was
to separate the amounts as had been
proposed. The salaries up to Nov
ember had been ordered paid at the
old rates. A new schedule could be
made to run from December LIST.
Noble Baldwin favored the pro
position made by the Minister. He
did not think that it would be right
to ask the return of money. nor did
he think it could be accomplished
LIZ salaries were lowered the class oi
officials would not be the same.
Noble Marsden considered that
all of the officials now employed
would be well pleased to stay ever
at reduced salaries. 1t was right
and proper to pay living salaries but
unless there were further reductions
in salaries the expenditures would
not be anywhere near within the
revenue.
Noble j. M. Homer referred tc
the salary of His late Majesty and
then said that the country had come
to the aid of His Majesty when he
was in trouble and had given hin
financial assistance. Now the coun
try was in trouble and he considered
that the Queen might be satisfied
with the income from the Grown
Lands, which amounted to $4,000
for the period, and not require an.
other salary.
| Noble Baldwin said that he ha'
understood that her Majesty wa
: willing that her salary should be re
duced. He would ask for informa
ton on that point.
The Minister of Finance relate
that the Cabinet had mentioned tn
). matter Of retrenchment to her Ma.
esty, She had, after obtaining
/, copy of the Appropriation Bill, re
turned it with some reductions, bu
there was no change im the Civ
!. List,
After some further discussion tn
Minister of Finance moved that til
item read as follows: Her Majesty
: Privy Purse, March 81 to Novembc
30, 1891, $l3,332; December |, 1879
r to March 81, 1892, $4,000, a total {
S33,332
The ayes and nays being calle
' thn raEult ChownI tha tam naSSa