The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-09-17

majority. Why did they not go out?
They were determined to block the
way to the Supreme Court by every
means, and were anxious to keep
their seats by every means. He
judged him by his actions, not by his
words. 1t had pleased the hon. gentle
man to comment on the tenacity with
which the Reform Cabinet had stuck
| to their seats in 1890. Yet it went out
on a vote of "a to "a, though it
did not have to do so. 1t had
! sufficient sense of the decencies
| of the case to retire. The present
Cabinet, though clearly outvoted and
in minority stuck to its seats and
| had no idea of resigning as he judged
| by the Attorney Generals course, put
| ting his words into plain English.
| Minister Neumann: They do not gain
in veracity by going through your
mouth). If they had 10 veracity
when they left yours how can they
| have il from mine. His EXcellency
was pleased to submit that no appeal
had been taken, and at the same time
he said go ahead with your appeal.
/ No ease could be brought before the
/ Court, only an opinion. lie was not
in favor of bringing matters unne-
| cessarily before the Supreme Court,
| but in this case it could not well be
avoided The Acknowledgement was
very prone to attribute dishonest mo-
tives to everybody which was GER
tainly suspicious. He would attri-
butte none, however, to him.
Attorney-G General Neumann said
short, effective and proper way to
| bring the matter before the Court was
to carry the appeal and then let the
Cabinet bring a case. The majority
could carry the appeal, and then the
Cabinet would refuse to resign and
would bring writ of quo warrantO.
Rep. Smith - The Cabinet will
bring the writ against themselves?
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT Neumann - I'M
questionably. He proposed to take
that action as soon as the appeal was
| taken.
Rep. Ashford thought the House
was to be congratulated on having at
last heard His Excellency's plans,
that the Ministry would refuse to go
out of office even if the appeal were
sustained which they had guessed be-
fore and knew now. 1t must now be
obvious to everybody that there is no
use in pursuing the appeal at this
time. How does he propose to 60 to
the Court? By writ of quo warranto.
Let me show him if he is capable of
being taught how imbecile his propo-
sition is. Who is going to bring the
writ? A friend of the Cabinet. Who
is going to prosecute it? Another
friend of the Cabinet. Just think of
the Cabinet bringing a case against
themselves to show that John Doe is
a mummy. His Excellency simply
wishes to get up in all his splendid
eloquence, and knock the straw ma n
out. minister Neumann: L thought
you said mummy. And again Hi s
EXcellency proceeds on an assump-
ton which would make tyro in the
law laugh, when he pretends that quo
warranto would be merely because a
want of confidence vote had been
passed. Such a vote does not OF
itself vacate the seats of the
Cabinet, They do not retire UNI
til the Queen has dismissed them.
Will his Excellency propose to make
the Queen party? That would be no
more foolish than the rest of what he
has advanced. If they advise Her
Majesty not to dismiss them she will
not, and then they are fastened upon
us like four barnacles to ship. He
had been curious to know what the
ingenuity of the Attorneys General
would bring forth and he had brought
something forth which would rouse
the contempt of school boy. The
Attorney need feel no concern
about the opinion being in the report.
1t would be there fast enough as a
damning evidence of the tactics pur-
sued by the Ministers to keep office af-
ter there was constitutional majority
against them. 1t was therefore useless
to prosecute the appeal for the reason
succinctly set forth by the Attorney
General himself, that the House would
not be one whit further advanced. Let
the matter be referred at once. If the
decision were against the majority il
will submit gracefully, cheerfully and
Loyalty. AS for the attempt of the At.
torney-General to make people think
) there was not any appeal from the
J President to the Supreme Court that
was all balderdash and moonshine
, and His EXcellency should know it
He would not say he did know it
for he had advanced such preposterou:
, and eXtravagant ideas in the past few
days that he began to doubt whether
he knew anything.
Rep. Nawahi said there was no use
asking the Court what Article fl o
| tuo COUSIltutlOu Iucdut, UeCduSe kilt
, meaning of it was clear. The bloch
l here was caused by the supporter
) of the resolution, who had votet
| against the resolution to adjourn un
2 til after October 4th. If after vctt
on the appeal was taken there wer
l still any doubt, it could be referred t,
the Supreme Court. Sections 8, II
and II of the Civil Code prescribes th
e proper procedure. Rep. Ashford wa
t one of those who made the COnstitu
l ton, and he said % are required.
Rep. Ashford-When did / say any
e thing of the kind?
e Rep. Nawahi--You said you wer
doubtful.
4 Rep. Ashford--I beg your pardon
e His EXcellency the President said so
d But his memory was entirely at fault
Rep. Nawahi continuing, said tn
1 House should settle the question TO
itself If possible, before referring the
matter to the Supreme Court.
l Rep. Bipikane did not pretend to b
e a lawyer but he thought % votes wer
p necessary. The House would nov
e have to give the Cabinet a trial for
: few days. He therefore suggested tina
e the resolution be laid on the table.
: Rep. r. w. Wilcox said there wa
: q difference of opinion in the House
and the only way to settle the ques