New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1892-05-24
IRISH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
DEBATE RESUMED ON THE MOTION TO PASS
THE BILL TO SECOND READING.
WILLIAM o'EMES's CONDITIONAL OFFER OF SUP

WILLIAM o'ERIENs CONDITIONAL OFFER OF SUP
PoRT-MR CHAMBERLAIN ADVOCATES THE
MEAsURE-TIMoTHY HFALY's COMMENTS.
London. May a3-The debate on Mr.. Bafour'
motion TO pass the Governments Irish Local uoN'
eminent bill on its second reading was continued
to-day
William O'Brien said he felt disposed TO vote
for the immediate passage of the bill through
all its stages, il the Government would theh uis-
solye Parliament as before the bill could be got
into working order it would he swept away py
another Government He hoped that the bill
rould he submitted 70 the coming Ulster con-
yentons as il was certain that the Ulster farmers
would prefer an Irish Parliament TO Irish local
government Irishmcn, he declared. would not
no deceived by such an insolent, contemptlbc
sham.
Mr. Chamberlain said that the Liberal-Unonists
were convinced that reform in the local govern
ment of IrAaad was desirable on it's own merits
without reference TO Home Rule. Ihe Dill haa
hcen framed on democratic lines, and the securi-
tios embodied in the measure were fully justified
The sneaker contcnded that the powers of the
County Councils were not crippled by these SAFE
guards. The County Councils, he said controlled
o. pcr cent of the local expenditures. and were
invested with powers equal to those hcld oy
similar councils in Great Britain Mr.. Chamber
lain advised the Government TO accept Mr.
OBriens offer to support the bill in all ls stages
and undertake TO dissolve Parliament if the bill
was passed
Timothy ITeaIy said that Mr. Chamberlain,
when speaking on Ireland, was accustomed TO
giving the House great majority. His great
authority few years ago was Mr.. Huroert
1aughter). who had informed Mr.. Chamberlain in
regard TO the Constitution of West Virginia.
REGARDING the Home Rule question, bis present
Great authority was Mr. Mccartney. the Ulster
member lrishmen continued Mr.. lealN, agreed
TO tie securities introduced by the li9me hnIc
bill but they did not want Irish local govern
ment and therefore would not tolerate the Sc
curties provided for by the present bi which was
than Lord RnRpdG%Rh % said Has the
Tory party like crab. had gone backward
Major Edward j. Saunderon CONSERVATIVE,
member for North Armagh sai he hoped thnt no
,nrtv in Great Britain would he so craven as 10
consider the feelings Of the lrishmen in America
from whom the Irish party were accustomed 70
derive their sinews of war These resources nc
declared were now exhausted.
Sir O. o. Trevclyan dc,crii,ed the bill as mere
abstract resolution lie was surprised, he SAID,
that Mr.. Chamberlain had been ahc 10 Keep a
straight countenance during his speech. The Dill
was an ascendancy bill in every clanse-almost
in every line; chiot socro,orv for ireland said
that Sir G. O. Trev"lyan hal bean in Office him
self and he must know tn" difficulty of producing
a bill that would satisfy all classes Of 1rishmen:
1t was true that the bill la' ben delayed untll
the final session of the ,,ros nj Parliament but
that was not the fault OF the Government The
Government had not neglected Ireland. 1t had
rassed useful measures for Ireland, and had full
Allied its pledges Mr.. Jackson then entered upon
detailed defence Of the bill. He created
laughter by stating that there were maps hanging
in the library slowing that the Government had
cndeavored to secure the representation Of all
minorites. The members opposite. concluded
Mr Jackson. must t9ze The responsibility for the
rejection of the bill