The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-12-14
THE LEGISLATURE
One Hundred and Forty Fifth
Day.
TUESDAY, Dec. IL.

Day.
TUESDAY, Dec. Is.
The House met at 9 A. NJ. Roll call: |
eyenteen members present. Quorum |
at III. The minutes of the preceding |
day were read and approved.
STANDING COMMITTEES.
Noble Baldwin, from the Finance
Committee, reported on Petition All,
from A. B. Lindsay ct al, praying
for payment of election expenses.
After thorough investigation, the
committee recommend the insertion
in the Appropriation bill of SS0for the
relief of petitioners.
Tabled for consideration with the
Appropriation bill.
Rep. Waipuilani, from the Public
Lands Committee, presented report
on Petition 455, from residents of Hilo,
asking for the establishment of fire
department at Hilo. The committee
recommended that the prayer of petit
TONERS be granted and that provision
be made for the purpose.
Laid on the table for consideration
with the bill.
RESOLUTIONS.
Rep. Waipuilani moved that the
Public Lands Committee be author
lied to employ an attorney to draft
certain important measures relating
to the proposed HilO fire department.
Since the departure of Noble Thurs
ton there was not q competent person
on the committee.
Rep. Smith favored the resolution.
The resolution was adopted.
Minister Wilcox announced that it
had pleased Her Majesty to sign the
Vaccination bill.
the
ORDER OF THE DAY.
Second reading of Bill 113, relating
to authorizing q National Loan. The
bill was read section by section.
Rep. Wilder moved that the report
of the Finance Committee on the sub
ject be adopted.
Noble Baldwin said the Finance
Committee had the bill under careful
consideration. They doubted the adj
Vi tuC lthlDS
up such a measure now. If the Gov
eminent takes this Hamakua railroad
in hand it will establish a precedent
In that way which will be followed by
future Legislatures. The question
was whether railroad through Ha-
makua would pay private individ-
ual; if not, the Government ought not
to carry on such a losing project. The
late Mr.. S. G.. Wilder was extremely
anxious to obtain money in England
to carry on that railroad. What
killed his interest was that the Ha-
makua plantations were not ready to
send their crops by that railroad
then, so the English syndicates
refused the loan. He doubted whether
the new way of shipping freight by
way of Hilo would be cheaper than
the present method in vogue. No re-
liable information as to how much
new land would be opened by the rail
way. The estimate provided by No
bic HOrner was q very rough one.
What will be the probable products
of this land? The committee does not
know that. Two hundred thousand
dollars are needed, and it is only the
beginning of that road, and new bill
will come up next Legislature for the
road. Therefore it was wise to give
the matter to commission. Let Mr..
Horner himself be on the committee.
There are some very grave defects in
the bill. The Government might be
obliged to pay per cent. interest on
the bonds issued. The information
required could not be obtained in
Honolulu.
Rep. Smith stated that he did not
tho hill I'm tic form, He
wanted careful surveys done. If the
commission is to do the work, an
appropriation is required. The bill
makes it discretionary for the Min
listers. What are they to do with it:
He considered however, that if the
bill be taken up in careful way, it
would be the means of cOunteractins
the evil effects of the fall in sugar. II
would be one of the greatest benefits
happening to this country. He haC
great doubt as to the Government tax
ing up the railroad, but it was desir
able that such road to Hilo be open
ed up. If given to commission the.
would be handicapped. If there i
ANYTHING needed in this country it il
going into it with pluck. God help!
those who help themselves. He di,
not believe in postponing for anothe
two years, but wanted prompt action
Minister Jones favored referring t
a committee as suggested by Rel
Wilder; an item could be inserted t
defray the expenses of such commits
sion. This bill required loan of 5000
900. 1t was very easy to talk abou
borrowing 100000, but it was not S
easy to raise the money: What wa
the good of lacking on 100000 more
1T might effect our credit. He did nc
think it wise for the Government
build railroads. Private parties woul
do it.
Noble Baldwin said the protector
proposed to take up the whole schen
as projected by the late S. G. Wilde
That would cost probably eight time
as much as the amount appropriate
by this bill. This scheme was base
on q large wharf and large war
houses. Would it pay to undertal
that scheme? We had not data he
to justify any such undertaking. TT
Ministers would start out blind on I'll
subject, and would have to invest
gate. If they came to the conclusiC
that small wharf and warehou
would be sufficient, they could n
build it, because the bill contemplat,
large wharf and warehouse. Let Il
matter be referred to a commission,
report to the next House, and give
something on which it can act.
would never pay in the world, if t
road was to stop at Wainaku.
Acknowledgement Brown did n
believe in the Government buildil