St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-07-25
SENT SOLID SHOTS.
Editor Phelan, the st. Louis
Catholic Authority is in
st. Paul.
Hot Reasons Why He Approves
Ireland's School Pro-
position.
A Roast for Germans on the
Question Of Cahens-
leyism.
He Believes and Relies Upon
Parents for the Cause
Of Religion.

Rev. d. S. Phelan, u. D., notable
Catholic divine of st. Louis, and editor
of the Western Waterman, was in st.
Paul yesterday on trip of recreation.
DR.. Phelan is man about fifty years Of
age. the picture of health and very
affable in manner. He cordially greeted
GLOBE reporter who sought him out.
and laughed heartily when told he
would have to submit to an interview.
Asked if the people of st. Louis took
any interest in the great Fairbault-Still-
water controversy, he said the whole
country took the liveliest interest in the
subject. In his opinion the conflict was
not at all unfortunate for the peace of
the church in ST. Louis. You see,"
said the doctor, lit is like the late war,
all inevitable conflict. In the battle for
christian education, we had to reform
our lives OF be lost. For years we had
allowed Zeal0ts and fire-eateIs to
Rail Against The state
and set up any sort Of theory that
pleased their fervid fancy. They put
forth the most absurd claims for the
church, and advanced the widest va
carries against the state. Their decla-
nation did no harm 10 the latter. and
the former listened and said nothing. 1t
was only when they began to handy
epithets of the hereto and liberal
Catholic that they were called to task
for their extravaganza. The contest
was not between Archbishop Ireland
and the extremists. BE was not state
right bishop particularly. In the coun-
Gil Of Baltimore he was regarded as a
conservative. He offered little or no
opposition to the eXtravagant claims
put forward in the first draft of the
chapter on schools. Other bishops
spoke against the ''idolizing" of
the parish school. The extremists
selected Archbishop Ireland, as they
thought that, with the aid of the Ger
mans whom he had incensed by his op-
position to CahenslyiSm, they would be
able to crush him, and with him the
state-right theory that they stubbornly
ascribed to him. They co lid not have
made more unfortunate choice of
victim. When he rose up to receive
their assault he, lowered head and
shoulders above every bishop i'll the
country. He
Shook Two Continents
| and astonished the civilized world by
the bOldneSS Of his propositions and the
clearness with which he defended
them''
How do you account for his great
victory" was asked.
Because he was right" said DR..
Phelan, land the church always sides
with the right when it is properly pre-
sented.'
"You see," he said, ''the contention
soon assumed character of American
ism versus FOreignism in the American
church. The archbishop stood up for
| greater freedom and discentinuance
| of that system of terrorism that was fast
| gaining a fOothold in the land. The
| extremists relied for success on eXco1n-
| muHication and denials of the Sacra-
ments. The way to heaven was made
| so narrow for American Catholics, that
| it led through the little front door of the
parish school house. The archbishop
| quite so much damnatiOn, and he chal-
lenged his opponents to a conflict a
| i Outrance. The rest you know"
But he had some bitter enemies in
Romeo" was suggested.
81 can't say he had" was the reply.
MANY cardinals and theOlOgians over
there had been prejudieed against him
by false statements from this side of
the ocean: but he always succeeded in
| setting himself right after few min
uteS' conversation. He was not one
| NCCh IA ItOiiiC OCiOlC Iudh VI uiS-
tinction, from the pope down 10 the
| youngest member of the sacred college,
was on his side.
One Lying Newspaper
| in Rome succeeded for time in cloud
| ing the issues and upsettng the minds
of disinterested spectators OF the strug-
gle, but that paper is dead for all time,
and its responsible editor has gained
for himself place in the rogues' gal
| lery for all time"
Did not many bishops in this coun-
try side against the archbishop" was
| asked.
Yes; but they were deceived by the
authority of this great publication, and
| by the false statements of this prince of
liars. They were led to believe that the
archbishop would be condemned. and
they did not relish a prospective au to
da fe. The pope's letter to some of the
timid souls is the cleverest piece of
satire IN the Latin language"
1.-The archbishop is said to be an
| enemy Of the Germans" the reporter
ventured to say.
He is an enemy of the Germanizers,"
said the doctor. 'You see." he con-
Guided. 1.-The German people are as
good Americans as we have The Ger
man priests and the German editors are
| ett liiC OOltotl WI tltlS ana
at the bottom of the latter is the cues
ton of bread and butter. If the Ger
man priests could talk English and the
German editors write English, there
would not be a German parish nor q
German constituency in twelve months.
If the rising generation is not compelled
to learn and 10 speak German, the rev.
erend and irreyerent Othellos will very
soon find their lucrative occupation
| gone. The archbishop does not object
to these gentlemen making a living
but he does object to their getting ii at
the
Expense of His People.
The German Catholics all over the
country are losing ground, while the in
fidel Germans are coming to the front
everywhere. 1t is because they are
handicapped with German accent and
meager common school education in
very inferior parish schools. The
primary object of German parish schools
would seem to be to keep the children
from learning English
what do you think will be the future
of the struggle, doctor?" was asked.
much good will result from it," was
the reply. Schools are only green
houses. The work of the church is
with the grown people. Schooling is
only preparation for work. In our
anxiety to safeguard the child in this
country, we are peglecting the grown
people. If the children would all agree
to die the DAY of their first communion
or go into lifelong sleep, our present
system of education would be perfect.
We have a mission for the grown men
and women of the age, and not the
nurselings. And what are we doing for
them? What Catholic newspapers have
we? What books? What preachers have
we? What is the character of
our late masses? What are the
Catholic laity doing for religion?
Little or nothing: not because they are
unwilling. but because they are not
asked. We fritter our lives and ener-
gies away doing the part of grand
mothers in the nursery. Take care of
the fathers and mothers and they will
take care of the children. am an ad-
| vocate Of narOphial schools Tjtpv ORC