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THE WORKINGS or THE GILL tx
PLAlHEo.
Morley says II is tie Eoit,ncst Reed
the Irish Minority Ever
Leanl On.


M. Buiicur
MIR. Bhiiyur, IN explaining the bin,
Sail That II was not merely county
councils bill, but what ia Euglaud
would be- descfibcd ~ % distriUi aud
Counties bin. by IT. provisions Rd-
mluisirUdNo aItiss will be given 20
h.r0nial councils, leaving wholly un.
touched the Judicial duties now go.
trusted TO the gtaud Jury. The mom-
beers " the county aud hafOnim cguu.
ilsohail Zee elected every three yrnrs.
The government proposed following
the Scotch rather than the English
measure IN the matter OF aldermen.
Many people IN Ireland, said Mr..
baliour, feared the measure would 70.
suit In extravaganza, possibly C0rfup-
dion. He denied this. In the first
county C8uucils there would be four
cN OuielO membcrs-tho Lord Lieu.
tenant of the county, the sheriff, tho
nominee Of the grand Jury nuu the
nominee NJ the prctentmuut sessions.
The qualifications OF voters for county
councilman aud hatoulHl councllmcn
shall he Identical. lllilernte persons
aud those who DID not pay county taxes
would have no vote.
Mr.. Balfour explained the workings
q the I'LL ~ Proposed and said that
thc system OF franchise suggested
would give a minority volr In tho
county councils. tlriHh joers.l The
history OF ireland proven that tho e
remote dangers had reality. Such
dangers did not exist in England.
Provision was made 90 allow twenty
Taxpayers 10 apply 10 the Judge N the
htsizcH by leave N petition Tor the re-
muNal OF the Councillor VI the baruuy
Or county on the ground Of persistent
jisohcd ence 81 the law, corruption or
oppression, and, N the charge were
established, the guilty councillor
should be replaced by nominees Of the
Lord iieutenvrt. LCheers.l II mal-
vorsntlon and oppression ware possible,
10 waH' the duty Of the House 10 pro-
vide nm adequate remedy. Such dan
gera exalted in Ireland 10 ma extent
unknown in Egland or Scotland. To
prevent extravaganza, the bill would
provide that landowner should have
deciding voice In permitting capital
expenditures, AZ distinct from Curroul
expenditures. He could not conceive
any danger Of the councils becoming
ceniers OF political agitation u further
the ylews OF any particular party.
Replying TO Mr.. Healy, Mr.. Balfour
said that the bill would not affect the
police system Of Ireland, and the met.
dence Of taxation would remain M at
present.
In conclusion, Mr.. Balfour said that
he did not pretend that the bill would
regeneTate ireland, but lao sincerely
thought that the Irish rale'psyer had n
Ill -.
gnuted Ia England and Scotland.
He therefore recommended tho bill
to the favorable attention ol the House.
Hou. John Morley characterized tho
bill NJ the "tottenost reed the Irish
minority ever lelnt ON for retention OF
their privileges" He declared that
the measure was framed la absolute
disirust Of the Irish people; In fact, an
assumption that ''lhey were debased
helols."
The whole opposition broke forth into
cheers when Mr.. Morley called on the
government TO go before the people on
the measure. In concluding, he af-
hrned that the bill was u mockery; II
was Justification OF the pledges Of the
government, and furnished grounds
for manifestation OF further irritation
Ia Ireland.
Hon. John Redmond protected
against the measure as a sham bill.
He could not conceive how the govern.
ment could be 80 full Of imbocllity ~
To 10 before tho country on such bill.
Hon. Justin Mccarthy advised the
government 10 burn the bill.
Mr.. Healy said that he never knew
Of more contemplate bin.
MI. Ilarcourt said that bill more
insulting to the irish he could not
conceive Of. II bore tho stamp 81, Mr..
Chamberlain, who was the father OF.
the bin.
MIR. Baliour denied that the bill wa
insulting TO Ireland. II, owing to oh.
Etruotion, the present bill should not
be passed, local government for Ireland
would be indefinitely postponed. The
only reason why the Irish parties
should .ohstIuct the bill was, that IL
contained machinery 10 stop corruption
and oppression. The only Inference
wa. that thoy desired 10 make some
thing out Of the councils.
At this the whole opposition lolned.
In crying "5hameln while the Com
gefya,iyes chcerrd.
Mr.. LaboUchere Haid that Mr.. Bal
four was "botween the devil anu the
deep sea-" He had 10 Introduce the
bill to satisfy his master, Dir. Chamber.
lain, aud had 10 persuade the Conser-
NATIVES that the bill was sham.
Mr.. Chamberlain denied he had M.
sisted In the work Of framing the bill.
He said that he approved OF the ma n.
ner IN which the government had re.
deemed IT, pledges. The eafaguard,
introduced IN tho bill IN regard TO cor.
ruption were those that the Americans,
tho most democratic people In the
world, introduced into their ConstitI.
ton. An American legislature could
be brought before the Supreme Court.
Hon. James Brioe, OF the south
division OF Aberdeen, u Liberal In
favor Of homo rule for Ireland, denied
that there was any comparison between
the proposed councils In ireland and
the relations Of an A mprlcsr, State
Legislature 10 tic Supreme Court,
which had only the power 10 nulllfy
nm act passed Ivy the legislature In OK.
cess VI H. pQwerH,
Hon. j. d. Sullivan said that he
recognized, In the insulting safeguards
OF the bill,the hand OF Lord Salisbury,
who dubbed lrishmen "Hottsntols"
anu "Lepers."