St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-07-21


mittee could arrive at any conclusion
unless they had some idea OF what was
wanted.
Mr.. Lowry said the company had
built the pavilion at Lake Harriet. and
Mr.. Warren wanted to know just at this
time what Mr.. Lowry intended to do
about extending the line into Como
park. Mr.. Warren called the attention
of Mr.. Lowry to promises made by
Manager Goodrich about the construc-
tion OF the line and argued that to- run
a single track to- the park would not
cost more than $4,000. These figures, he
said, were given him by Mr.. Goodrich.
Mr.. Lowry said it would cost at least
that amount to purchase the rails tor
half mile of track, and, as he under
stood the proposed route. it would take
three times that amount of rails, as in
stead of half mile 1t was
one mile and half. Mr.. Lowry
and Mr.. Warren discussed, matters
which had been talked over at previous
interviews between these gentlemen,
but which were all Greek to other menu
bers of the committee. There seemed
to be decided difference of opinion as
to what was said at the interviews. ME-
Lowry holding to one side of the argu-
ment and Mr.. Warren the other.
Warren said, would be of great benefit
to the public, as it would give access to
the park even if the service were only
as 1t is nOw-One car every twenty-five
minutes. Mr.. Lowry said he was
not there to discuss service on
any line. Mr.. Warren said all
he and the general public wanted was
access to the park. MI. Lowry had adj
mtted the park was a beautiful place,
but there was no way to get there now
except to walk a mile or so from the end
of the present car line.
Mr.. Van Slyke asked if in extending
the line to Como Mr.. Lowry wanted a
right of way through the park. This
matter, Mr.. Lowry SAID, it would be
more desirable to discuss with the park
board. Mr.. franklin asked Mr.. Lowry
if he thought the receipts on line
would be much larger if a Car rau
Oftenerthan every thirty-twO minutes.
This state of affairs existed OH the
State street line, and Mr.. Franklin
thought If cars were run more frequent
ly more people would ride. Mr/Lowry
said if every one in that section OF the
city rode it would
Probably Not Pay
operating expenses. When the line
was first proposed across the suspension
bridge in Minneapolis, Mr.. Lowry said
he and Col. King had counted the peO
pie crossing the bridge and decided that
nine tenJhS of them would ride. After
the line was built it was discovered that
not one-tenth of the pedestrians awaited
themselves of the privilege.
Mr. Lowry said, while the service had
been Increased five times and the mile
age doubled in ST. Paul, the increase in
passengers had been only eight per
cent. The Twin Cities had now service
for twice the population. and if it came
down 70 a question OF service, the COM
pany could take off So l-3 per cent. as
governed by other cities in the country
of like population, and still have as
good service as they had. He had faith
that the city would improve, and the re-
ceipts he hoped would also.
Elections and other circumstances
were dragging things somewhat
but in the next twelve menths the
Twins would, he thought, reach tine
apex of their hopes.
Mr. Warren said the election of
Grover Cleveland would have deal to
do with the realization of Mr.. LoWry'S
ideas. MIR. Lowry SAID the country
would be safe with either man.
Mr.. Lowry and Mr.. Warren again
branched Off Into discussion Of the
Como line and as to what was said, or
rather what was hot said, at their pre-
vious interviews. MIR. Van Slyke said,
as soon as he could get the attention of
Mr.. Lowry. that there were concerts
at Fort Smelling every night, and
if there was ffteen-minute service OH
that line he WAS sure it would be largely
patrenIZed by the public. Mr.. Lowry
said it might pay during certain hours
of hn 6ax, IF f.I-
week to demons trate practically whether
an increase in service would result in
all increase in receipts.
MIR. Van Slyke said public sentiment
demanded that the railroad company
run line to Como park, and inquired
if Mr. Lowry was holding back on this
line to ..-ssss....:.l.s,s
Use 1t as a Lever
to get what the company wanted from
the council. Mr.. Lowry denied this,
and said it would not he impossible to
construct the extension. but he thought
single track to the park, as suggested
by MIR. Warren, would not be what was
wanted and would not accommodate the
public. Mr.. Warren said it might not
be just what was wanted. but 1t would
give access to the park and satisfy the
public. MIR. Lowry said he mad spent
crafty the people of St. Paul,
and he ought to be treated fairly.
He was ready to meet the committee
and listen to propositions and agree to
anything reasonable. He didn't know
what kind of transfer system was
wanted. He explained the transfer SyS-
TEN in use i'll Minneapolis and said one
could be arranged here which would
suit. Public clamOr, ne said, must not
be considered. and travel ought to he
large enough to warrant extension of
lines before the company was ordered
to build them. The company would
stead OF fifteen or thirty, If it would
pay. The double track line to Como
would cost $4,000 to build and
equip, and could be eOmplet-
ed in sixty days. he thought.
He was willing to give gold dollar for
il silver one, but didn't want the council
to make the trade and then take back
the silver one. Mr.Van Slyke insisted OH
Mir. Lowry saying what he wanted at
Como iii definite way. Mr.. Lowry said
if he outlined policy the public would
say it was for the sole interest Of the
str 3et car company. Business interests
in both cities were not i'll the
most prosperous condition, and
IL ellHoT city ulScfeulteu Tie cOm-
pany it would have bad effect.
For this reason he wanted to take the
matter up not hurriedly, but with rea-
son, and devise some plan that would
please. In answer to the question as to
| what was demanded from the city he
| said there had been
No Demands Made
In Minneapolis the company had built
| 9, ,oyyiljnp al- II apd n
board had the boat privilege, and the
amount received from that had been
used to pay for the band concerts
and furnish other attractions. Some.
thing of this kind he suggested
could be done at Como. The company
could build the pavilion and the city
run the boats, or vice versa. The park
| could be lighted with electric lights by