The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-06-22
AFTERNOON SESSION.

Noble Horner said Noble Neumann
had touched the right chord. Similar
resolutions used to come in during the
previous session. Weeks had been
spent in discussing whether the House
had right to interfere with Ministers
in the execution of the laws. The
House had better stick to its business
and leave the Ministers to theirs. If
the latter did not do right, the House
would know what to do with them.
Noble Baldwin did not favor the
resolution for good reasons, which
had already been stated. The spirit
of the resolution was all right and he
understood from the Sanitary Com
mittee that the Board of Health were
willing to permit all reasonable ex-
periments to be made. He voted
against the resolution, not because he
wished to withhold from the lepers
anything which could alleviate their
condition, but because the House had
no right to interfere in this way. If
all worked together in the right way
much more would be accomplished
than could be otherwise.
Minister Parker said he was MEM
Der of the Board of Health which had
done everything it could for the
lepers, and was still doing so. After
being on the Board for some time, he
found that everything was being done
for the lepers which could possibly be
done.
After speeches by Rep. Kaunamano,
MinisterWidemann, Reps. Nawahi, Ka-
pahu and Iosepa, Noble Marsden moved
the previous question, but it was not
seconded apparently, and Minister
Widemann, Noble Neumann, Reps.
Kaumaoha and Waipuilani all made
speeches, the latter moving the pre-
vious question, which was carried
The ayes and nays were called on
the motion to adopt the resolution.
The motion was lost by the follow
ing vote:
Bipikane, Ashford, A1i, Nawahi,
KOahou, Kaunamano, Kamauoha,
Waipuilani, Kapahu, Nahum, White,
Kanealii, EdmOnds, Kaluna, Iosepa,
Akina, Kauhi-19.
Nays Ministers Widemann, Spen-
Ger, Whiting; Mobiles Berger, Ena,
Macfarlane, Williams, Neumann,
Kauhane, j. M. Horner, Hind, Mars
den, Young, Baldwin, w. Y. Horner,
Walbridge, Anderson, Thurston, G.
N. Wilcox, KanOa, Dreier; Reps. A.
s. Wilcox, Wilder-23.
Noble Neumann introduced the fol-
lowing resolution: Resolved, That
the Sanitary Committee confer with
the Board of Health and report to this
House what action will be necessary
to allow certain persons claiming that
they can cure leprosy to take lepers
at the Kalihi receiving hospital under
treatment, providing the patients
consent to such treatment. The reso-
luton was adopted.
The Minister of the Interior an
swered the questions of Rep. Ashford
as follows: In answer to the ques-
tions propounded by Hon. G. w. Ash
ford, beg leave to say that the retail
spirit license of Jno. w. Record, at
Waikiki, expired on April l, 1892;
that the said Record, under date of
March Is, 1892, made application for a
renewal of the same, with permission
to change the locality of the saloon to
some other place in the district of
Wailuku acceptable to me. Under
date of March 81, consented to the
removal of said saloon to Kahului,
but objected to its removal to any
part of the town of Waikiki. Under
resolution of the Privy Council,
adopted March 9, 1885, the Minister of
the Interior was authorized to grant
two retail spirit licenses for the dis
trict of Wailuku, and two have been
regularly granted for several years
past. l could not issue additional
licenses for that district if applied for
There are no such rejected applica-
tions on file in the Interior Office.
The answer of the Attorney-G Gen.
eral to the questions of Rep. Waipui-
lani was also presented. The member
had requested the names and pay of
all persons in the employ of the Police
Department. The Attorney General
states that he is unable to answer the
question, as no complete record exists.
A list of the police, according to the
pay roll OF March, 1892, is filed, but
this list does not include "men en-
gagged in secret service, nor special
police" The Minister requested to
erelieved from further answer
A discussion ensuing, Rep. Ashford
stated that he could appreciate the
difficulty of answering the question in
full, but the answer evaded the very
matter about which information was
sought, viz: the secret service. What
was the secret service? Which sta
tute authorized it? Was there any
thing in the department which re-
CURED to be kept secret from this
House? If so, he thought the House
was as much to be trusted as the
Acknowledgement or the gentleman
down street, from whom he was gener-
ally supposed to take his orders. Peo-
pie, reputable people, were watched
and logged by lot of disreputable
persons, thugs and thieves whom the
Marshal had gathered around him.
He had been logged himself. He, fol
one, was very much opposed to ex-
cusing His Excellency from making
a fuller report.
Acknowledgement Whiting said the
information could not be obtained ex-
cept by resolution. If the member
had been logged he probably deserved
| to be.
Rep. Ashford then asked if the
Minister intended to intimate that he
the speaker, had done anything dis
honorable.
The Attorney General repeated his
| former statement.
Rep. Ashford did not propose that
the Acknowledgement should retire
behind any such subterfuge. He was
not the dictator to this House, and
not the judge whether public policy
demanded that this information be
secret or not. The Cabinet were the
servants of this House, q mere com.
mittee, answerable to the House
The Acknowledgement was probably
ignorant Of fhn rnlo IF fhiS Honco