The National tribune., 1892-05-05

Raum. j.. had promised that he shouId be. He
wss discharged from the office because he
associated with Fleming a newspaper man,
although he denied giving Fleming Informal
ton about the Pension Bureau.
Mr. Enloe sought TO put in evidence 200
printed pages Of evidence and the report Of the
committee which had been appointed in I5S9
to investigate the Pension Bureau, but il was
ruled out By Chairman Wheeler. because It re-
lated 20 the Pension Bureau before it came
under the present Commissioner. rs those who
had gone out Of Office were not answerable TO
the present committee The committee then
adjourned until Friday.
The House Committee investigating tie
Pension Bureau convened Friday morning
April %. Gen. Baum was not present and
harmony prevailed. J. ID. Greenwalt, the
Special Examiner who was detailed to in
yestigate the conduct Of AIr. Hersey the pri-
vata Secretary of Mr. Cooper, Of Indiana re-
lated how be got acquainted With the witness,
Morgan, who called at the Pension Office on
business. One OF the letters received from
Morgan. witness said. he destroyed. In a letter
under date of January 20 Morgan wrote wit
ness, in which he stated that his attention had
been called to an interview relative 10 Repre-
sentative Cooper. and he said that be was afraid
that his interests at the Pension Office would
be JtoPliulLet Dy coming thero Win cooper, AZ
he saw by the interview that the Commits
sioner and Dir. Cooper were not on good
terms.
The examination of Mr.. Greenwals was
pursued until Sir. Enloe asked him the
question:
Did you furnish the money that Morgan
sent to Hersey to pay for work done in cases at
the Pension Officer"
Right there said the witness, al want to
call the attention of the committee TO state
ment in the New York Herald, in which Mr.
Cooper said he was going to bring suit for con-
spiracy against Commissioner Raum, Mr. Nor
gan and myself under the Indiana laws. II
this IS so | want to know it, and I'll stop right
Eere. l don't propose TO give any evidence
here for Dir. Cooper to use in any suit for con-
spirscy."
You can put this in the record if you will"
rejoined DIR. Cooper, that I will withdraw
any intention / may have had in that direc-
ton, so far as it pertained to Mr. Greenwalt.
want the truth brought out here more than
the result Of any conspiracy trial"
Il will ask you the question again." said
Mr.. Enioe. While acting in your official
capacity, did you. Of your own motion, or
under the direction of the Commissioner, fur
nish the S25 to be sent to Cooper"
When went out into the field TO make in
yestigati0us acted as a subordinate and was
told to do whatever thought was necessary to
elicit everything in connection with the trans
actions and did what thought was right"
Dir. Greenwalt declined to answer a question
put by Chairman Wheeler regarding any money
transaction, save that he had general instruc-
lions. He went to Kalamazoo, where he had
an Examiner TO see, and while there met FOote,
whom he told he would like to get some one to
send money to Regain, to see what would coma
out of it. FOote said he would send the money.
Before reply cane from Regain, he Green
vru1T haH laff h - IL
been told by Footo. Witness did not know that
anyone had furnished Foote the money.
Ton place your refusal, them" said Mr..
Enioe, to answer this question on the ground
of the possibility of a criminal prosecution, do
your If you want to make it privileged
matter you must do it on this ground
a. I don't know" said the witness 81 have
no attorney here. and I'm not acting entirely
for myself in this matter. / acted in good
faith, and was a subordinate and did what
thought right. / don't see why I should
be compelled to make statements here to 90
into the record to be used by Mr.. Cooper in q
suit for conspiracy"
little later Dir. Greenwalt said: 81 hays
thought TIE matter over and IN order not to
embarrass others l will gay that Feb. % saw
Morgan, and he said he had received responses
from Hersey in 10 cases. Morgan said he had
sent him 10 money, and Hersey indicated no
wanted pay before he attended to the other
cases. Witness then suggested that he send
the s25 and get the balance of the cases. and in
reply to the direct question Mr. Grecnwa said
he furnished the money.
"Gen. Raum told me-" he continued, "that il
l incurred any expense not part of the Gov
eminent expenses that i should not suffer-"
In the course of further examination ne
said he had not received the S25 back He
also admitted that he had facts enough to con-
Wet Hersey before he went to Indiana, but
that he believed that if Morgan was telling the
truth he would catch Cooper as well as Hersey,
and that was why he went to Indiana Being
cross-examined by Dir. Cooper, Mr. Greenwals
became somewhat tangled up in his distinction
between public and private business The
letters received from Morgan to him. he said,
were private and were destroyed. They simply
gave Information upon which he conducted the
investigation. The result of his investigation
was public.
In answer to question by Mr.. Cooper, If no
considered the money with Uhichhs tried to
bride him Cooper was outside of Governments
Business, the witness said he did.