Deseret evening news. [volume] (Great Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1867-1920, 1892-02-19
The Long.Talhed.of Measure {, intro.
due q iu The House II
Common.
THE WORKINGS or THE Jill TX.
pLAlHCD.
Morley says 4, !, tie Eolt,nrst Reed
the Irish Minority Ever
Itanl Gn,


/ M. Builsur
MIR. b,li1ur, in cyplaigiug the biU,
t1li lhutit was not merely o. county
/ cDuucil'H hll, but what m England
would be de-gfihUu D. % diairIr. anu
couuiies' till. By its provisions al.
I WIui-lruNNr .ltita will us given to
/ h.fOnIai councils, leaving wholly uu.
/ touched thr Judicial uuuvs now yu.
/ trusted To the gtaud jury. Tie mom.
/ bprs VI ihC county aud Uaflnni aguu.
/ obs ahnil Nu elected uvsry ,hrec years.
I RE government p.ot U.ai following
/ ihv Scotch rather than Che lugLsh
] measure IN the mgitHrpl aldermen.
[ Many people IN ireland, said Mr.
] bali0ur, feared the measure would 70.
I SUIT IN extravaganza, possibly uUffup.
liun. He denied tulE. Ina tho inst
cnuhty C1uucil there would he four
OK 1uulU mcmuCn-,hu Lord Lieu.
/ tulau, NJ the county, the sheriff. tho
/ nominee Of the grand Jury anu the
] hlmineo pi iAu pfCsantmuut sessions.
The qualifications Of voters Tor county
councilman md harpulIl rluncllmtn
shall lie Identical. lllileTNtr lufslns
/ auu those whUGid not pay county taxes
would have no veto.
Nc. Baliour explained thc workings
! @, The iii as I,0l0Hui and said that
/ tha system o. iIaachiau suggested
would give minority vote in tho
/ county c1unc D.. 'lrsh jHvp.l The
history OF ireland proven that thu.1
remote dangers had o. reality. Such
dangers dii not OXist Inc England.
Provision was made 90 allow twenty
t3spnJ,u 60 spUiy Co the Judge nf the
htsi2sE by leave 10 petition Tor the re-.
mINal VI tue tCuEcIl0aut the bafuuy
~ county On tie ground Of pyr.istrn.
ih0htirrcc 81 the law, corruption or
I oppression, aud. " DE charge wotr
established, tho guilty councillor
I should be replaced hv nominees uf the
LORD lieutenert. LChecfal II NAL.
NuHn'iOn AMI oppression ware possible,
TO wuH' tha duiy " the House o. pro-
vide an adequate remedy. such dan
Btu existed In lIulauJ 10 nu extent
unknown iu Egllnd or Sc0tiuuI. To
prevent extravaganza, the bill would
| provide that land owner thOuid have
"a deciding voice VA permitting capital
Expenditures, 40 distinct from current
expenditures. He could not conceive
any danger OF tho councils becoming
ccuiers OF political agitation 81 further
the Views OF my particular party.
Replying TO MI HCaly, Atr. BaliOur
fuii that the bill would not affect the
police system u Ireland, aud the incl
urnce NJ taxation would remain ~ at
present,
Ia conclusion, Mt Baliour said that
he did not pretend that the bill wOull
tegenernte Ireland, but lac sincerely
thought that the Irish ralc,plyUr had n
30 afaNr..
granted IN England and Scltiani.
lie therefore recommended the hiil
10 the favorable attention Oi the HOUSE.
Hon, john Morley characterized tho
hill AZ the "tottouost reed tho Irish
minority ever ItAnt On for retention Of
their pfiviloges.n Hr declared that
the measure was famed Ia absolute
distrust Of tho Irish people; Ia fact, an
assumption that "thcy were debasui
helo,s."
The whole opposition broke forth Into
cheers when Mr.. Morley called on the
government 10 90 before the people on
the measure. In concluding, he az.
flrmed that the bill was a mlckefy; IL
was Justification OF the pledges OF The
government, aud furnished grounds
foy O manifestation Of further irritation
In Ireland.
Hon. John Redmond protested
ngainst the measure as sham bill.
He could not conceive how the govern.
ment could he 30 full Of imhocllity o.
Ia 10 before the country on such "A bin
Hon. justin Mccarthy advised the
government TO burn the bill
MI Healy said that he never knew
Of u more contemplate bin.
Nj. llaroourt said that \ bill more
irsuItiug TO tho Irish he could not
conceive Of II bore tho stamp OF Mr..
Chamberlain, who was the father Of
tho bill.
MIR. BalfouT denied that the bill wa
insulting 20 Ireland. II, owing to Oh.
Etruction, the present bill should not
bo passed, local government fUr Ireland
would be indefinitely postponed. The
only reason why the Irish parties
should oistruct the bill was, that il
contained machinery 10 stop corruption
anu oppression. The only Inference
was that they desired 20 make some
thing out Of the councils.
At this the whole opposition Joined |
In crying "Ahamup while the Con-
ftrvatiyes chcerrd.
M. liahogchrge said that Mr.. Bal
four vas "bctwrrn the devil anu the |
deep sea-" Hy had 10 Introduce the |
bill to safety his master, Dir. Chamber. !
lain, aud had u persuade the COusur- |
NATIVES that the I'LL was sham.
MI. Chamberlain dCnied he had NJ.
sisted la the work Of framing the bill |
lie said that he approved u the man.
ner IN which the government had 10. |
deemed to pledges. Tho safeguards |
introduced IN the bin IA regard to cor.
uptiun were those that the Americans,
mo most democratic people In tho |
world, introduced into their IOuslitu. |
ton. An American legislature could |
be brought before the SupTcmu Court
Hon. james BrIce, Of the south
division OF Aberdeen u Liberal ia
favor Of home rule for ireland, dcEleI
that there was any comparison between
the proposed councils In ireland and |
the relations OF an American State
leglslaWr, 10 de Supreme Court,
which bad only The power to nulli,y |
an act passed by the legislature IN OK
cess u IT, Ilwur.
Hon. j. ID. Sullivan enld that hu
recognized, IN the insulting safeguards
OF the bill,the hand Of Lord Salisbury,
who dubbed lrishmou "iot.sntois"
anu "Lepugs." !