New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1892-01-26
MR.. DILL TESTIFIES.
ANOTHER CHAPTER IN THE MoRRISIo"N
SCANDAL.
TIE ACCUSED CLERGYMAN AND HIS BkoIhh"
TELL THEIR sToKIEs-pENYING HERBERT

TIE ICCusED CLERGYMAN AND HIS BROTHER
TELL THEIR sToKIEs-pENYING HERBERT
GRAY ToRREY's STATEMENTS.
~cAa,.,oxn n J.. Jan. o5 spcciaD.-The Rev.
Artbnr Cushing DILL WHO Is being tried here by the
pr,sbvterv OF Morris and Essex Counties was OH he
witness stand today nearly SIX hours. Inc "i"',
which was adjourned from last "Wednesday opeheu
OF 8 80 a. m. with Dr. larland, who mao reoo'e,o"
from his Illness acting as moderator James h. D'i''
brother OF TIN defendant and senior partner oi the "
firm Of Dill Chandler & Seymour Of New ork' e''l'
fed about the part the principal witness ior inc
prosecution Herbert Gray Torrcy, had in the pefsec"
ton ~ the defence call II, Of MI Dill
James B. Dill denied that the version given by
Herbert Gray Torey on the witness stahu oi u'o '"
versatton between tue defendant bro'her anu WI
Torrev in the witnesses oice at the time OF the "mc
can outrage WAS correct lie said that the first IN
t-ryiew he had with Mr. Torcy in regard 10 the oe-
fNdant was on North River ferryboat cary Ia'' sun"
ner ale told me-" the witness continued '''V
there was A difference between HIN anu my D'"'"'
and that the relations had become so s'"ih "'"' o
or the other must leave Stirling, and that 1t was
easier for my brother TO leave as he ir iorrcS' n'
"a home and a family. lie said that II my bro'acr
d,a NOT baye he would bc prosecuted by certain persons
who we're opposed TO him. MI i'.,o
said that his position was in'uehua' az" '''
H.. could coutrol theS, people anu pun -,
I'D 80 Tho matter. asked Mr.. TOriey what was inc
Lid that il was because Mr.. Dill WOMB 10. a'o"
rrrc,,s VIII. 70 attend the meetings of the SESSION.
Vbis occurred in the early part OF June poiore 'e
horse was painted. :, .,o
soon after this conversation story appea'e" !" ".
rseer about painting Of my brothers ho'so '
o,,vv called at my Office and said: III you hsu ''"''
my advice this would not have happeheu' IL ?o
mother docs not leave stirling at once, other ms'e'e
arc likely 70 come up which will make IT unpieasan.
fo. him. ana therefore unpleasant for you. lou WIN
End Mr. Dill that. while am not Tespohsioo io ""'
has occurred. ] control matters IN c'fhne' " ~
force them or stay them choose. ii your o'o"'.'
Snes not Immediately leave the place. OF his own No
,ion he will be put in snch position tia' lie ''" ~
again enter a pulpit as long as he lives ,,.
"Mr Torry came to my Office again after the "in'c
Can affair ~ July A. lie said he had come fOF TIE as'
time and submitted TO ne proposition III "ii"nH' !"
which he said he would kill the charges asns' NY
hrother ~ Arthur would leave Stirling ana "l'Hua"
his charges against the White Cappef'' 'n"s9 t'e
proposition wss at once accepted, he said' he "o"' "
Ino.a charges against my brother when wouio urlNc
him from the ministry. lie said that "hdeNcr wac
ssd AGAINST my brother would reflect on me- anu 'a'
oonld not eliminate myself or my family TON c .o"
troversv told him that this sounded 10 me INV
bIackma,l lie got up, very indignant ana sa'o "i
Dill this is my ultlmatun As long as 1--we your
h,,ber shau never occupy pulpit In NewJersey, ana
nnless YOU comply with my request VIII let loose
sesnda) on rom brother, whether true or false WHICH
will ruin him forever . ~
~ refused to make any agreement with Mr.. Iofrey'
He tried 10 sec more but reused u 'aiA W
him - ,,
George Marks, James b. Dills conhdehua 'Er"'
,or,oho,a,.a his employer about Mr.. Torey going to
AZ mrs Office Elder william Newman and Elder
swenson both of stirling, and W. J. Wright, a vc7'y
man q, 81 psls Church, of Yonkers, then tcsthed 10
MIR. DIPS good character
Tho defendant was then called to the stand Ai'er
ia IL dnriD
in the West he gave a detailed account OF MS WORK
AT the Mount Freedom Church from 1888 to leo9' he
said he had accomplished many reforms In the church
work there and left the parish In honrishhs con-
dition When asked /: there was any truth III Tue
testimony of Elder Nelson liushson lie declared l'''
IL was absolutely false Mr.. Dill defended MS acuo's
while with Miss Lucy Thompson, Of Mount Freedom
the young woman to whom he was engaged lie al
n,ttet that one evening while calling on Miss Thomp
son he had stayed a late hour. but that 1t was on
account Of a storm, and he remained at inc
special request Of a member OF tho family JIG saiu
that Mr.. Hughson opposed to his engagement 10
Miss Thompson, neither Of them had much money
The Witness said he had been urged 10 go to sufIhs
by Dr. White and DR.. Hichok lie told them that lie
was worn out with his work at Mount Freedom and
that he wanted to 60 to Europe for rest Dr. "hi'e
told him that II he did not go to the stirling chuch
II wOuld have to he struck on the role OF inc
Presbytery Mr.. and Mrs. TOrrey offered to MN
meeting of the session October L. 1889 the witness
said that the first dispute between Mr.. Torrey and
himself occurred. II about the prOpiety OF the
elders wife attending the meeting. Mr. Torry at
tended yhe session for the last time on December ii
OF that wear. lie did not attend any services ut the
church after that neither did he take any Interest In
church work.
Mr. Dill said that Mr.. Torrey was In error when he
testified that the beginning Of the trouble
between him and Mr.. Dill account
~ the admission Of the two Parkinson girls
The witness further testified that Miss Newman and
Miss Pembcr spont the nights OF March 20 and 2l at
Miss BoyIes house. Elder Beb0ut, Edwin Bebout
and Richard Thomas called him on the following
sunday and made some insulting remarks TO him about
the young women staying all night at Miss Boyle's.
Mr. Thomas said that every one III the town knew onat
Mr. Dill was deccivng Miss Boyle (who Is seventy
years oid), ana WAS mailing her Trims That ne was
gong to marry her. Tie witness told him with
smile that no believed that. 40 ,
Torroy and The White Cappers which has
been published in fun in The, Tribune Tribune
tons wlch The witnesses for the prosecution swoie
that he had with them. In regard to the nacd women
who danced in the Jardin Mabille IN faiis nc iad
positively that he had mentioned the subject
before Mrs. Tmny or her children, lie averred that
he might have mentioned to Mr.. TOrFey In private
conversation what his Guide wa told him was TO be
In sermon. which Mr.. Torey criticised as immoral,
the witness said he was speaking In hs discourse about
merely referred to publication Of the SwedenbOrgan
Society which spoke of the evil Influence OF wire ana
tobacco.
The crces-exNninator conducted by the prosecutor,
DIR. Green, was long and exhaustive but II failed to
shake Mr.. Dlll's testimony: This finished the tcsti
nl0ny for the defence and the adjourned 80
A m February O. when the LAWYERS will sum up and
the Prcsbytcry will probably decide the verdict.
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