The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-06-01

tnaL II you please 4H lava '0i1
slowly.
(The witness does s0.)
Iuterpreter-It is true the only way OF
getting it is through the bayonets,
Mr. Hartwell-Why do you say bayo-
nets. Ale said alau pu,
O-And was that language which you
have Just used in Hawaiian the language
used by Wilcox in explaining the objects
of the League or in connection with at
these meetings always, is that the man
ner in which he expressed himself IN
Hawaiian. A-Similar.
Q-You said that at the second meet
ing held you thought that on the follow
ing Sunday a week later that Wilcox
said that the object of the League is to
find equal rights in the Kingdom, how to
get it leave to by and by, or whatever
this council decide, the majority OF the
couEiI decide, but it is most certain
to have to use bayonets. A-Read it
over again.
Q-Wilcox in Hawaiian would state
the object of the League is to find equal
rights in the Kingdom, how 20 get it,
leave to by and by, or whatever the
council decide, the majority OF the coun-
Gil decide, but it is most certain to have
to use the bayonets. At seems to me
too long, | cannot catch on to it; if you
read it sentence by sentence | will ex-
plain it to you better.
Q--You said it in English, can't you
state it in Hawaiian. Al can give the
Hawaiian if l know fully what it is.
Q-Wilcox in Hawaiian. A-Leave
Wilcox in Hawaiian out.
Q-YOu said that all without any
suggestion on direct examination,
now [ will read it to you again for the
third time and ask you to put it in
Hawaiian as Wilcox said it. Will
cox in Hawaiian would state the OBJ
ject of the League is to find equal
rights in the kingdom, how to get it
to leave it to by and by or whatever
the council decide, but it is most GER
tain to have to use the bayonets.
Mr. ROsa-If the Court please, /
think the witness is entitled to have
the words given to him sentence by
sentence.
Mr. Hartwell-I wish to test the
witness memory; he can't remem Der
fifty consecutive words.
The Court. All that is neces-
sary is to call his attention to the
date when it was said; think it is
sufficient if you read it over to me.
Mr. Hartwell-WilcoX in Hawaiian
would state the object of the League
is to find equal rights in the king
dom, how to get it leave it by and by,
or whatever the council decide, the
majority of the council decide, but it
it is most certain to have to use bay
onetS.
THE witness interprets in Ha-
valiant
Mr. Hartwell-Was the word hopena
used? Al don't believe the word
hOpena was in it, but something SIM
liar to that.
Q-Can't you give it? A-The word
hopena was not in it, I lam quite GER
tain of that.
Q-Can't you say what word was
used? Al think he used almost the
same words without the word hppena.
o. shall have to ask you again to
say it in Hawaiian as you think Will
cox said it that evening, that portion
of it, cit is most certain to have to
use bayonets."
The Court-Say that in the Ian
! guage, as near as you can remember;
! that it was most certain to have to
use hayOnets?
Al cannot very we'll give it.
!
words or effect of 1T.
| (The witness does sol.
The Tnterpreter-TheW way to get it.
it is certain that the way we would
get it is from the bayonets.
Mr.. Hartwell-What words did he
use for bayonets? A-Elau pu.
o. understood you to say yester-
day that the Hawaiian word about
the council deciding, that he used was
hooko; you use to-day the word hoo
holO. Yesterday | understood you tC
use the words hookOia.
The Court think you are mis-.
taken; what he was speaking about
was that the members wOnld have tC
carry out or perform what the council
decided, and hOoko is used in that
sense, to carry out.
Mr. Hartwell-Is it not true that or
each occasion when Mr.. Ashford was
present at those meetings he stated in
substance that the object of the League
was to be accomplished only by legal
and constitutional methods, or some.
thing to that effect? A-Please say
il over again.
Q-Didn't Mr.. Ashford, at each
meeting, when he was present, say to
the League, to those who We're, some
thing to this effect-that the OBJ
jects of the League were to be accom-
plished only by legal and constitu-
tional methods under the law? No
sir, not at every meeting.
Odd he say it at any meeting?
Ayes, sir, he did; that / recollect.
estate, as fully as you can recoI.
lect, what he did say to that effect.
| A-Almost similar to what YOU have
said.
Q-Almost similar to the words ]
have used? Ayes, sir.
Q-And you state that before going
up to that meeting where he spoke
of going up to Hilo, if you remember
Mr.. Ashford said as he was going tC
Hilo he would like to know definitely
whether any action was going to be
taken before the meeting of the Legis.
lature or not, if so he would stay
Now, he did go up to Hilo, think
you said? Al think so; believe ]
said that.
Q-And he attended no meeting
after his return from Hilo, belive
that you referred to? A-There was
another meeting after that that he at
tended at Bipikane's house.
Q-After his return from Hilo? A
He attended no meeting.
Q-There is no meeting that you
have spoken of where he attended?
Al said that he attended a meeting
after he returned where that CONVEX
satiOn of Castle and c. w. was talked
of.
Q-During the time that you were
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