The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-09-17

ing of the Constitution. II it were to
be submitted, this was the way to do
it. 1t might be submitted by the
Cabinet or by the Legislature, it
made 10 difference which. 1t would
be under the same section in either
case. For either not to abide by the
opinion given when rendered would
be revolutionary. The opposition
would certainly abide by it Loyalty,
and he believed the Cabinet would do
so also.
Minister Macfarlane wanted to
know how the member could doubt
now, when two days ago he had said
what he would read. The Minister
read from the ADVERTISERS report as
follows:
eve have advanced 50 far now in
stead Of CABIN treIn bling before the
king, We have one which is over his
head, whose advice he is bound to take,
and which can be only put out of office
by vote of % OF the elected members
of theHouse."
Noble Thurston said he had been
trying to explain for fifteen minutes
that he was not in doubt at all. His
expression the other day was general
merely, and had no special reference
to the present situation lin a House,
i. e., of As members).
Minister Macfarlane said the Noble
has certainly shifted his position in a
few days. That was understood to be
his position and few days ago Noble
Baldwin had stated that they had 10
votes and that more would not be
enough as Is would be required.
Noble Baldwin said he was not a
lawyer and might have made some
such statement He had been consid-
ering the matter a good deal lately
and was in some doubt, and therefore
wished the matter referred to the Su-
preme Court.
Minister Macfarlane said he was not
| speaking in factiOus spirit, but it
was very proper under the circum-
stances to call attention to the shifting
of position on the subject.
Minister Parker thought he could
| shorten the matter. He agreed entir-
ly with the Noble from Maui. He
favored an immediate vote. There
was no use in wasting time in person
alities between members and some OF
the Cabinet. Let them all go home
to lunch and leave the Representative
for the 3rd District and the Attorney.
General to fight it out between them
selves. He moved the previous ques
ton. Withdrawn.
Minister Neumann (amid loud calls
of ninau), said he wished the matter
brought before the Supreme Court, but
not as an appeal from the decision OF
! the Chair. That was no precedent to
establish. The House should exercise
its prerogative and vote on the appeal.
If carried the Cabinet could submit
the question to the Court. If lost the
House might do so.
Rep. White moved q recess until
o'clock be taken in the interest of fail
play. Two members in front of him
were absent. If the previous question
was going to be moved he did not pro-
floor for the rest of the day. He in.
tended to talk all day, in spite of the
rule of the house. Others had violat
ed it and so would he.
Noble Marsden said he had Just Is
minutes more. He would have tC
abide by the rule of the House.
Rep. White asked why he had mo-
objected to Thurston and Ashford eX.
ceeding the time limit. Was it be
cause he was a native Hawaiian?
Noble Marsden-Because they talked
sense and you are simply obstructins
business.
Rep. White said he only wanted
the fair thing.
At 1880 the House took a recess
until 2 O'clock.