Pittsburg dispatch. [volume] (Pittsburg [Pa.]) 1880-1923, 1892-09-01


Q. Who elseG A. Frank Hogan and Harry
Norton and John Bennett.
q. We're you on guard duty that nightf A
Yes, sir.
O. Were these three defendants on guart
duty that nightr A. Yes, sir. No, 1 didnN
see Nelson.
Q. Did you see Wiper and GfbsonF A. Yes
Q. They were on guard that night. Wha
was done that night A. Well, they stopped
everybody from entering that wanted tt
enter during the night and the early part o
Q. Were any Of these men armedF A
Yes, sir.
Q. What did they havei A. Well, two O.
them had revolvers, and the rest of them
were armed with clubs and stones.
O. Do you remember the two that had re
volvers? A. Yes, sir; Harry Norton an6
O. You saw that was the night of the Sd
We're you on guard all night-your squad
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What was done on the day OF the 4th, ii
anything?
stopped Men From Going to Work.
A. The day of the 4th as the men began to
go near the mill TO go to work they were
stopped. First they were talked to, and il
they insisted on going in they were stopped
forcibly.
o. How many men did you see stopped? A
Probably dozen or more.
Q. How large was the crowd engaged in
stopping them2 A. About 90
Q. Were those three defendants in that
crowd? A. these two were in it, Wiper and
Gibson.
@ What did they do to those that were
stopped; what did the crowd do? A. They
crowded before them and grabbed them by
the shoulders and arms. and forcibly pre-
vented them from going in, and threatened
them.
@. What threats did you hear used? A.
They said they would knock their -
heads off and knock - out of them were
the usual expressions and things OF that
kind.
O. Did YOU know any of the men that were
prevented from going in? a. Well, know
one man by the name OF Quay and a
draughtsman at the steel works.
Q. Do you remember his name? A. don't
know his name.
Q. Was he a German2 A. He was Ger.
man.
Q. Did you see the carpenter. Il. Y Boyce?
Do YOU know him? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you see him stopped? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you know Morrison, the water
tender at the mill? A. don't know him.
Q. You say you sa " about dozen stopped
from going in. Did you see any of them
beaten? A. No sir.
Q. But you say the crowd had sticks and
stones?
Stopped by the SoIdie rs Arrival.
A. saw them roughly handled and
turned about and told if they would attempt
to go in they would knock - out of them,
that they couldn't go in and that was all OF
Q. Where we're these people assembled,
this crowd? A. Mostly at the main entrance.
Q. Main entrance of what? A. OF the
steel works.
Q. We're they on the public road or not?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Running in front of the entranceP A.
Running in front OF the entrance.
Q. How long did they stay thereP How
long did the disturbance last? Well, from
about O'Clock in the morning until 1880, l
judge.
Q. What put stop to itP A. The arrival
of the militia. just before the militia came
there was Il gradual falling eff, anyhow;
they began to give up the fight; the arrival
OF the soldiers stopped it altogether.
q. They dispersed the GROVE? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did the soldiers disperse themf A Yes,
Q. Were they formed In line in dispensing
them? A. l didn't see that.
The witness was then cross-examined by
Mr.. Cox.
Q. What time in the day was this trouble?
A. Well, it was from o'clock in the morn
ing until about 1880
@. You say that this matter was arranged
at q meeting held the night before? A. Yes,
sir.
O. And Mr.. Carney was present at that
meeting? A Yes, sir.
Joined the Lodge a Week Before.
Q. How long had you been a member of
the Amalgamated Association prior to that
might or had you been member or some
time? a. Possibly a weekor ten days.
Q. Did You take an obligation there? A.
Yes, sir.
Q. To reveal all of the secrets? You swore
that you would not divulge any OF the
secrets OF the association? [Objected to-
q. You took an obligation that you would
not reveal any of the secrets, or did You
swear that you would reveal all of the
secrets? \. Do you want me to answer both
questions?
Q. One answer will be enough. A. Yes,
Q. You took an obligation that you would
not reveal o. would? A. That l would not.
Q. Whom did you tell all this to about
Gibson and Wiper. 4. Well, 1 was sent out
there 'or that purpose.
Q. You Joined purposely to discover the
secrets? A Yes, sir Not the secrets, was
10 discover whether there was to be any at
tempt at rioting.
Q. Then you gave that fact away immedi-
ately before the riot came on. A. Well, in
my customary way did
q. You were in the employ of the Pinker-
tons? \. Yes. sir.
h Was a Pinkeiton Detective.
Q. A Pinkerton detective? A. Yes, sir
Q. You went up there and took a alse obli-
gation for the purpose of divulging the
secrets? GObjected tol
Q. You did not see Nelson at allH A. Not
in that meeting.
Q. You didn't see him at the time of the
Q. You didn't say so before in answering
Nj. Er eek?
Mr. Breck-He sa id he didn't see him at
the meeting. You can tell now if you saw
him out there.
Mr.. Cox-Did you see Nelson there? A.
Yes, sir.
Q. What was he doing' a. Assisting the
other rioters.
Q. There were quite good many around
there? A. Yes. sir.
Q. What are you doing now-in the same
SlnpGSo A
Q. How hIany lodges have you joined since
that? tObjecUed to.l
Q. You were a member of one of the
squads. Were you captain or first lieuten-
ant? A. was a private.
Q: You were down there at the same time
A. Yes, sir.
Another Pinkerton Man Testifias s.
Joseph Kneip was the next witness pro-
duced by the Commonwealth and examined
by Mr. Brecka
q. Do you belong to the Amalgamated As
sociation of Iron and Steel WorkersT A
Yes, sir.
Q. Have you a card with you? A Yes, SIR
The witness produced the card.
@ When did you join ii? A. About the
32d of July.
O. Do You belong to the same lodge that
Mr.. Tyler belongs to? A Yes, sir.
@ You are down on this card as a tin
roofer A. Yes, sir.
Q. wish you would state whether you
were present at the meeting about which
Mr.. Tyler has testified on the night OF the
81 of August. A l was at the meeting that
evening and saw and heard the same as
Tyler.
q. Was an orsanization effected that even
ing? A. Yes sir.
Q. The lodge divided into companies?
A. Yes, sir.
O. How many? A Four, composed of ten
or more in each company.
O. Who were the commanders in chief? A.
Norton and Hogan and John Bennett. 1