Los Angeles herald., 1892-02-19
Norman E. Mack Talks Of the
Pivotal State.
The Recent Trouble Between
Hill and Cleveland.
The Big Hill Boom Which Has Struck
the South.
A New York State Editor on the Political
situation-B oies, sheean, Chaplin
and Gray Also Prominent
in the Race.

motel. Mr. MACK lS editor and prOprl-
etor of the Buffalo Times, leading and
influential paper of New York state,
and this is his first visit to California.
81 am delighted with Los Angeles. 1t
is very pretty city, and it is very
much larger than had any idea Of"
said Mr.. Mack to a HERALD reporter
yesterday afternoon.
"The people appear to be very energetic
and the stir and hustle came in the ma
ture of surprise. Why, Los Angeles
is twice the city I conjured up, and as
far as have seen is splendidly equipped
in every particular. The street-car sys-
tenn is very complete; the streets and
sidewalks compare favorably with any
in the United States, while the build
ings are substantial. Yes, sir, Los An
geles looks prosperous and progressive"
Mr.. Mack is well posted on the politi-
cal situation, taking an active part in
politics of the state of New York. In
view of the recent events in New York
politics, Mr.. Mack's opinions will be
found very interesting.
GA great deal of talk has grown out
vi buC dCblOu Va NIL I'LL b IIl6nQS IN
calling the state convention to meet at
such an early date" continued Mr..
Mack. 81 believe that it was brought
about through the steps taken by the
adherents of Mr.. Cleveland in PeEnsyl-
vania, in calling an early convention in
that state. Mr.. HilPs New York friends
did not desire to see an influence Gre
ated by the Pennsylvania delegates be-
ing instructed for Mr.. Cleveland, and
they decided that it was perfectly fair
for them to head off the movement in
our state. There is, in fact, no need of
an early convention in New York. 1t
could be held in May Just as well, as
the strength of Mr.. Hill in that state is
growing and will continue to grow. He
is so solid that no material change could
have possibly taken place. He has the
support of thirty out of thirty-four men,
bers OF the state central committee The
Hill faction is we'll organized, William
Sheean, the lieutenant-governor, having
complete control of Erie county,"
"Why is it that Cleveland has lost his
ground in New York state?" asked the
reporter.
''Well, one of the reasons is that the
friends of Mr.. Cleveland are not workers
they are not politicians. 1 say this
more as a Cleveland man than anything
else. The outcome of the whole thing
in our state will be that Mr.. Hill will
go to the state convention with an alb
solutely solid delegation. The prevail
ing feeling among Democrats is that Mr..
Cleveland was not Democrat enough
while in power. Mr.. Hill has been play
past four or five years and has thereby
hipoonlf RI tho r1aorlo
Hill will also have large following in
Indiana, Ohio, Connecticut and New
Jersey, and / would not be surprised if
be had delegates from the two last men
toned states. have heen away several
weeks and have spent some time in
South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and
Louisiana. I was thunderstruck to find
such following for Mr.. Hill in those
states. The Democrats in that part of
the south look upon him as a second
Andrew Jackson They lose sight of
the tariff, free silver and all other issues
and go in for the support of Mr.. Hill.
He is fighter for the party and they
are willing to trust him."
"What will be the principal issues
of this coming campaign between the
two great partiesP'
1T is my opinion that the tariff ques-
tion will be very prominent feature,
although the enemies of the Democratic
party are seeking to weave the free
silver issue into it. An introduction of
the silver question into the campaign is
going to prove bad thing for the party,
for the reason that the people now un-
derstand the question of tariff better
than they ever did. Everybody, from
the most illiterate to the best educated
man, understands fairly well the mean
ing Of the words tariff REFORM The
question of silver at this time isn't well
understood, even by the best fnanciers,
to say nothing of the rank and file of
the people, and when the Democratic
press and political orators begin to
pound such knowledge into the head of
the average man the result is that he
soon won't know anything. If the COM
ing national battle is fought on the
same lines as those which caused us to
in 1888 and elected two-thirds of the
congressman in 1890, there is no, doubt
in my mind but what we could carry
the coming election with any good Dem
ocrat, with harmony restored. in New
York state"
"What will be the result in event of
the quarrel continuing up to the time of
the national convention ?'
''My own opinion is that unless the
leaders in our own party come to an un-
derstanding in New York it would not
be surprising if the convention, when it
assemblies and learns the real condition
OF affairs in our state, say to the friends
of Mr.. Cleveland and Mr.. Hill who will
represent them in the convention, that
unless the difficulty is at once settled
satisfactorily to the national committee,
a western man will be selected to lead
the national Democratic ticket, on a
theory that an outsider would solidify
all factions in pivotal state, and would
possibly be the means of carrying it
more certain by the Democracy than by
the nomination of Mr.. Hill or MIR.
Cleveland. Should such condition of
things be brought about, the men most
prominently spoken of as possible can
didates are Gray of Indiana, Boise of
Iowa, and Chaplin and Sheean of New
York. If Gray has Hill tendencies he
would pacify the Hill element in New
York, while Chapin would be the heal
ing lotion for the disgruntled Cleveland
men in the state; or Sheean might be
selected to hold the Hill men and Boise
the Cleveland followers.'
"What is the real cause of the luke
warmness in New York state towards
! Cleveland 2"