New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1892-07-03
NO FEAR OF PERSECUTION.
ARCHBISHOP IRELAND CRITICISED.
AN INTERVIEW WITH FATHER LAVELLE' RECIoH
OF TIE CATHEDRAL.

OF TIE CAIHfDRAL
The memorial which Archbishop Ireland presented
to the Pope concerning the schools In his diocese has
partly seen the light Published extracts from 1t
appeared on Monday. As early April 25 the bishops
Of the New York province had learned that In the
memorial OF DR.. Ireland II had been stated that the
failure OF Rome u sanction the Faribaut school
might result in persecution OF American Catholics.
The New-lork bishops wrote to Rome that the mere
idea Of persecution was an absurdity, and the Pope
replied that DR.. Ireland had not spoken of persecution
in his memorial. Judged from the printed extracts
taken from the document this Is strictly true: vet DR..
Ireland limited at troubles which might arise and In
stanccd Germany with its modern Kulturkampf as
specimen of what could happen in modern times. Many
Of the statements In the memorial aroused 50 much
criticism In this city that Tribune reporter sought an
Interview with Archbishop COrrigan, but learned that
he had more to Say the education question Inc
Rev Michael j. Lavellc, rector OF the Cathedral hao
some views on certain passages in the memorial ana
spoke freely to the reporter
1t IS hard for us to say what the circumstances
in Minnesota and other parts Of the Northwest SAID
Father Lavelle but we all well acquainted WIN
ourselves and our neghbors here in the East ana we
know that Dr. Ireland's description of some things do
not fix the East all. His first assertion that WITCH
an ambitious youth Of Catholic faith desires TO MAKE
name for himself in the political or social "or"' nc
Invariably detaches himself before the puDDc from ii
SymDathy with Suspected ioFtibH''9' '''' ~
Catholics OF foreign birth and affiliations. Is not under
stood BIZ lis at ALL and can only Imagine the curious
circumstances which might make 1t true In the North
west. .
"Another assertion IS that no Catholic can pl'soi''
himself TO be elected for high political once Without
having first broken with the Catholic body Members
q, both political parties know how untrue TINS IS az
onplIcd 10 the East We have In this state score
Of Catholics IN high political offices, and each year
,bcv oro aiming stu higher. The leaders Of the great
PARTIES have never thought Of throwing man over lot
his religions opinions. provided he was strong i'ian
everv other way. No ambitious young Cauolc uhC
ever knew found it necessary to leave Ms iath ana
his practice behind him. to obtain p'llucai "o''re'
We are all more asOnished at Dr. lrelands
cho-gcs ooo.nst the priests in connection with the
church schools than with any other part OF the
memorial Here again he mny be alludlng 10 thihgs
pccuar 10 his own REGION but rs bis charge appears
general II must be answered lie asserts .Nat We
force the children into the parochial schools, that
70 keep ND our schools must have recourse often
to SPIRITUAL censres. and often refuse the sacIne"s
10 the children and their parents. Inc great
difficulty with us is not to get the children 10
attend hut TO got buildings for those who wish 10
attend All the buildings We can put up equip anu
maintain are filled TO overlooking, and more r"ohi
IS wanted. We have no reason m censure PiTen''
on this point, or to refuse them the sacraneh's'
ON the contrary we cannot extend always as hearty
for we have no room for all. In every parish III
tho East the Catholic children attending the puonc
schools are prepared for their first communion as
carefully AS any, and even more carefully, as they
need more care On the one hand there Is no
forcing and on the other there i no neglect,
Wealthy Catholics says Dr. Ireland. nave
little sympathy for the parish schools. IL NAV De
.id I'm general that Catholics respect anything with
eros, on IT, Wealthy Catholics, like many other
wealthy persons do not send their children 10 inc
common schools. whether public or parochial bu'
they IN our converts and colleges u Overlooking ana
uch nrvatc schools as they affect cannot be objected
,o IN thc ground Of danger to faith. Their sympathy
with the school depends their Intelligence usually
., rhtcb tho standard IS high in New-lOrk for the
wealthy Cathol IS here strongest supporters.
~ that on ALI These points DR.. Ireland Is decdedN
mistaken when he includes the East In his generaites
I saw in a statement concerning Yale College last
weelt that seven Catholics were among tie students
Tha, I. an illustration of how far our YOUNG men
neglect Catholic institutions. othouGn ar I ''
" What do you think OF this Idea OF per,eTuuoon
pary implied I'm the memorial! p was asked Oh fa'her
Imprudent behavior can bring down on any one
annoyance and trouble: But persecution Is ont O
the question The principles Of our roVcrhipen,,
arc pretty firm aud very well known Ihey snut on
rer.sruton. Cnr countryS tradluonS "Ic Ill!
against IL. Political combinations are po al, NV
,ndo IN Nation Of our size permit II. unless the
nersccuied were sckng martyrdom linen you ci,
rot prosecute 100000 Of citKens ea,lN, even "a
thev are only one to eight, when they nave not uc
Rod f. n Is impossible to look upon us as other
Than Americans. yet this whole memorial woulu I'M
rIy We are foreigners and so regarded ms pas VI
H. f-c,"nd, document leads me to believe that ne
,.G.r particularly 10 the West, where the circum-
.tanccs different. Perhaps III , 90 th text
vhch would have limited the application OF the m,uo
rial ~ II has been given TO ua II docs not apph "
one spJt east Of Ohio