The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1892-06-22
Rep. A.bford said that he had no


Rep, Ashford said that he had no
personal grievance against the Minis
ter, only an official grievance, and
that was growing larger each sue
ceeding day. He proposed to dis
cuss the Minister and the whole
Cabinet on not only their official acts
but also their official capacity. He
had given his opinion of the Attor-
ney. General and the same remarks
would apply to the Minister of the
Interior, and with equal truth. so.
cially the Minister was all right but
officially he was as the ancients would
say n. g, (laughtetD. Regarding the
Minister of Finance he had the most
cordial sentiments. He, however,
could not forget that bill of the Min
ister's which proposed to obtain
revenue by taxing playing cards ten
cents per pack. He considered that
was a mountain laboring TO bring
forth mouse.
Minister Widemann (sarcastically)
Thank you'll much obliged, Mr..
Ashford you are a quiet, peaceful
gentleman, and an ornament TO this
Housed
Rep. Ashford Continuing HE
could not forget the birth of that un-
lucky mouse. He judged that there
was a great load lifted from the
minds of the anxious midwife and
the sweating wet nurse, and it must
be matter of congratulation that
the mother was safely delivered.
Noble Marsden (lnterrupting)
could not see the connection between
this story and the item of salary UNI
der discussion.
Rep. Ashford Sharply - Mr..
Chairman, / believe l have the floor
and do not wish to he interrupted.
am not furnishing brains for the
member from Hamakua. | am sup
plying the joke that is enough for
him to know if he has not the brains
to understand the application. Re-
lative to the Ministers what l have
said is only small part of what may
be said of their official incapacty.
He was in favor of the item at $4,000
and if the gods who looked out for
the dispensation of official favors
would be 50 benign as to supply good
men he would then be in favor of an
increase.
Rep. Kamauoha had not intended
to say anything, but the remarks of
the previous speaker seemed to be
based on personal feeling, feeling
which was not cherished, nor were
the hints understood by the Hawaiian
members. The previous speaker had
limited at incompetency in the Attor-
ney-General and Minister of the In
terror. If anything was known why
not make proper specific charges and
have them proved? The Hawaiian
members were not in accord with the
hints thrown out. He would favor
the item as in the Bill.
Noble Baldwin did not consider
that it was proper, in the matter
OF salaries, to le2islate tor the per-
son who held the office, but rather
for the office itself 1t was treadirg
on dangerous ground when the judg-
ment was allowed to be affected by
the personality of the incumbent.
He was not in favor of reduction in
important offices. When the ship is
in danger that is the time that the
most skllful captain is needed. Al
a small salary it is difficult to get
good men In important offices.
Rep. Kaunamano, Noble Marsden
and Rep. White spoke on the ques-
ton.
The question on the $4,000 mo-
ton was put and lost and the item
was passed as in the Bill.
AT II :02 recess was had until 80
p. M, items IN the Appropriation
Bill still being under consideration.