The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1892-12-27
LITTLE INFORMATION.
4 REPORrER'S STORY OF Az IN
TERVIEW WITH jay GOULD.
The Great Railroad Man Was Never In
clined to Discuss in Advance His
Plans With Newspaper Men.

ANltlt gu NA"hitou, tolo., one morning IN
July. 1888, accompanied by his physician.
Dr. Mum The two stood at tho head Of
tac stairway overlooking the canyon on
ihe Iron Springs for a Few minutes, and
bad I'm opportunity to note the great
change i'm the wizards appearance since
thc last time I had seen him-two years
before. His face bore the impress Of suf-
lering. the lines in It were drawn, the
eyes heavy. and when he started down the
stairway his steps were slow and his body
ewaycd slightly, as IL his strength were not
sufficient 90 encourage vigor Of movement.
Or. Mum told me a few minutes later
chat Mr.. Gould was not in very robust
health.
"Bo has come here 20 rest and dor't
think he would like TO be interviewed"
said Che doctor. Iargued that had come
long way 10 secure from Mr.. Gould an
EXPRESSION Of opinion on two matters Of
Che greatest importance 20 the west-the
umorcd extension of the Union Pacific
railway FROM Denver into the southwestern
c.au,ry and the amalgamation Of that
r..l with the Denver, Texas and Fort
Worth railway, which was then nearing
completion. / requested the doctors per
mission 90 ask Nh. Gould one or Cwo ques-
f.ns. which would serve the double pur-
rr-o OF setting ao rest doubt as 20 the
Union pacidc's intentions and relieving
Nr. Gould of much future annoyance. |
t..lk the ,last suggestion influenced DIR.
.uun's negative permission, "Well, l
don't think you viii get anything out Of
lm"
1lr. Gould was walking slowly up the
bride path that le3 20 the old Pixies peak
trail. his hands claspe' behind him and
IBIS attention riveted q snow capped
summit ~ the peak IN miles away up
in The airas You looked TO the southeast.
JIG not see me until / had made a
u.s,tep o. few yards behind him and sent
t.e Gravel and loose earth scattering down
tle mountain. Then he turned and peered
ct me under the half drawn lids of his
l.siy eyes. lie remained standing per
f.e.Iy still in the same attitude until l had
come up with him.
I-ior9cJ a few feet from him and stated
rr mission in those words, as nearly as I
can recall them. MIR. Gould, the Denver
Eew- Lae sent me 70 secure, if possible. a
confirm. zion or denial Of the reports cur
reut Iu Ncw York and Chicago concerning
the plan, for extending the Union Pacific
eautL from Denver, and also amalgamat-
r with the Denver, Texas and Fort
Worth road. ! hope this explanation will
serve as an apology for ~intruding upon
privacy"
lr. Gould listened patiently, and then
.aIug upward again at the snow capped
D.. E. said. IL don't know that ! can give
-.u The Information YOU seek. ! have been
.aav from the east-from business 1
....-so long that ! am not familiar with
t. projects You speak of. should like to
tell Won something worth your journey,
bur am not well enough informed to do
s1."
perhaps you could tell me enough in a
general way TO stop these reports l sug-
gested.
'What do they say I am going to do?"
be asked, turning his eyes ON me again as
] briefly retaiied The gossip concerning
the future of The Union Pacific, of which
.,r. Gould was supposed to be seeking the
control. Ic smiled once or twice-that Ia
lis eyes lighted up q trihe, though his
face lost none Of its haggardness.
When had concluded he said: "Well,
they must toT. about something. They
appear 90 bee much better informed than |
am ON these Subjects. DO you know this
country out here2' he said, abruptly
clauliug the subject.
Itold him that ] had visited Manitou
and Pixies peak and had been up the range
t9the cascades. lie started 20 ask ne "a
question. but anticipated bysaying: "Mr
Gould. think you would be saved much
annoyance for the next week or Two if these
report, about YOUR railway plans, and also
t.I- sensational statement about your
health could de disposed of now. A mum
DEER of newspaper reporters are on their
way to- investigate them. They could be
easily turned back if you denied the re
I.rts."
Iheld ont TO linn q telegram from Chi
C,o. which stated be was seriously i'll.
u. eyed it,, but didn't like it,.
$50 they're talking about my health, too,
ore they2 Well, Pm used TO being talked
about. III denied an therumors circulated
about me and my affairs would not have
time TO visit So charming "A place as this.
About That report concerning my health,
YOU see that ! am still alive. 1t Is true
that / have been slightly troubled with my
face. That has interfered with my sleep,
lut my appetite is very good. lam not as
sick as some people hope. About the rail
way stories 1 have nothing TO say"
We had walked slowly along as we
talked. but when we reached the steep part
Of the trail he turned and we retraced our
Steps. His attention was attracted by a
fragment Of PIRATES that some one had
dropped 10 the ground. He indicated 1t
with the toe of his boot and said:
"lhcre are many chances 10 make money
SIN this western country. That rock may
contain valuable mineral. y little money
and perseverance will make any man rich.
j came very near coming west when ! was a
Young man. A friend named Miller Gt
was either Miller or Muller) wanted me to
accompany him in 1854 or 1856. was half
Inclined to do it. but l changed my mind.
was always sorry that l did not come I'M
III heard four or five years later that my
l.end was killed in Nevada. ! guess it's
just as well that | remained in the east l
.lt have been killed too"
Hythis time we had reached the hotel
a.a 4. Mr.. Gould turned, as he placed has
l... ON the step above, and said: 1t IS too
ia. sou came sc far for nothing, but lSup-
pose YOU win write an article anyway. 1
i.De you viii be accurate"
AVS i turned 70 go down the trail toward
the ID. and h. g.. station. haifa mile away,
] thanked Mr.. Gould for his courtesy II
volunteered the information that an excur-
sion party OF zOO Boston school teachers
was TO arrive that afternoon.
OF am sorry for that" said he. 81 hoped
e. have ali this grand scenery TO myself,
blt can assure that they won't get any