St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-09-08
WILL LOWRY ACCEPT Z?
Council and Chamber OF Com
merce Committees Evolve
Definite Ideas.
Five Propositions Formulated for
the Consideration of
Mr.. Lowry.

The hope Of accom- plishing something
of tangible character in regard to the
much-wanted street railway line to
Como park, and the prospective i'm
prOvements to be inaugurated by Col.
Thomas Lowry, of Minneapolis, was the
motive which brought together at IL
O'Clock yesterday morning the joint
council committee OH city railway at
fairs and a delegation from the chamber
of commerce.
A rambling, indefinite discussion of
what was wanted and needed opened
the conference, but after a bit order
came out of the chaos of opinion, and
MIR. Lowry will be requested to attend
meeting Friday morning at 1920 to
listen to and consider several proposed
innovations as a part of the street rail
way system.
Messrs. Frederick Driscoll, II. L. Will
Jams, Thomas Cochran and ID. d. Mer-
i'll represented the chamber of COM
mcrce. and Mr.. Driscoll outlined the
propositions finally assented Condi-
tons were proposed at first that went
into the most minute details, but i'll the
end these were rejected and the five
points were agreed upon. Mr.. Driscoll
said before formulating his propositions:
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expense of the city at large. We should
not yield the interurban transfers nor
curtail the transfer system one iota, for
it concerns the whole city. We ought
not to ask MI. Lowry to build more
lines to- SparSelY settled portions of the
city. We have forced him to run lines
which he foretold would not pay for ten
years, simply because we had the lever
age of the granting of the electrical
franchise. We might we'll ask even
| more of the transfer system than we
now have-thaJ all the lines should
meet. There is great break now
between the East and West Seventh
street lineS.'
Mr.. DriscOll thought that the change
from cable to electricity on East Sew
enth street was of great Importance,
not only to connect the now broken
divisions of Seventh street, but to make
| part of through line from Fort
| Smelling to Saltwater with the White
Bear line. When the change was made
| it was proposed to run the White Bear
or Wildwood cars around the loop in the
city.
Mr.. Phillips, assistant city attorney,
gave it as his opinion that Mr. Lowry
| could at any time make the change on
| East Seventh street.
| 1t was without avail that Mr.. Van
| SIyke or Mr.. Cochran suggested that
| some compromise might be arrived at
| on the basis of some modification of the
| present system of transfers on the In
terurban line or otherwise, or of an adj
! ditional fare over the proposed new line
| to Como park. The majority of the gen
| tlemen present evidently regarded the
| transfer privileges as one of the dearest
| rights, and would not abate one particle
| of their opposition to any change in
| that regard.
Mr.. Van Slyke believed that if all the
| lines were provided with open cars the
| summer traffic would be largely in
creased, and in case they were put on
| ne believed that they ought not to be
taxed by the city.
| Aid. Zimmerman answered that in
| Minneapolis the license was S25 per car,
| and, that being the case, he thought
| that there was no cause to complain.
| Several attempts were made to state
| what Mr.. Lowry'S position was at pres
ent with respect to the building of the
| Como line. and his propositions as mod
| flied since his letter to the committee on
! their proposals, but the gentlemen pres
ent could not agree as TO what these
| conditions were.
| Mr.. Van Slyke was confident that all
| Mr.. Lowry now desired was the extra
| fare from Rice street to the park and
the abolition of he-transfer system on
| the interurban line, but the other mem
berS of the committee had not so under
stood him.
| Mr.. Cochran believed that Mr.. Lowry
| ought to be treated with perfect fair
| ness. He was one man out OF a mill
ion, and had the city been obliged to
| deal with other men it would have been
| battling every step. He knew that the
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| Sl03,009 of paying the fixed charges and
operating expenses. Mr.. Lowry had
always done everything for st. Paul,
| and while the city maintained its rights
| and privileges with care, it ought to be
| magnanimOUS in its attitude toward MI.
| Lowry.
| 1t was agreed that it would not be
wise for the city to undertake the main
| tenance of the attractions at the park,
| and a suggestion was faVorably re-
| ceived that the right be given to some
| private company for a term CT years, as
| was also an opinion that the tracks
could run through the park in sunken
| roadway.
Following are the five propositions
| on which Mr. Lowry will be asked to
give answers at Fridays meeting:
The exclusive right TO Mr.. Lowry to the
summer attractions at Como park for period
| of fifteen years.
The East seventh street cable line to be
| changed to an electric line and made a con-
| tinuous route from the harvester works to
| Fort Smelling.
That Mr. Lowry be released from the build
| ing of the Stryker avenue line for the pres
| ent, as not being absolutely necessary.
That Mr.. Lowry be released from building
| the Maria avenue line until such time as the
| Indian Mound park shall be located.
| A double track to be built to Como park
| no change in transfers to be involved and
| the Como line cars to run around the loop.
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