The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1892-10-09
HOME RULES CRISIS.
The Irish Members Must Accept
Mr.. GladstOne's Bill.
ELSE THEY WILL GET NOTHING.
The Liberals Sick OF tho ssIrish Q1es-
tion" - An Interview With
Chauncey NJ. Depew.

New York, Oct ESPECIAL Correspon-
dence. MIR. Depew always brings from
Europe some news that has the sparkle OF
interest as he tells it. Sometimes it is an
Anecdote or two wherein Bismarck or the
Prince of Wales or Gladstone or some
other Of those whose hand is on affairs
over there appear in > new light. Some
times it is vivid sketch of men who are
At the moment in the public eye of Europe
and the reason therefor.
Those who have Depew's intimacy are
accustomed to look forward to his return
with the greater desire because they know
that he has entertainment that interests
a. well as instructs in store for them.
This year Mr.. Depew has brought back
not only the pleasant gossip of the lighter
sort, but news that is of the highest inn
portance, and which gives some revelation
OF the mighty game of politics and state
craft that absorbs the attention of the
British Lation. And to some of those
men who are accustomed to meet Mr..
Depew of an evening he has been telling
this story in such q manner that his mar
ration has occasioned such comment as
leads men to say when they meet one
another: "Have you heard Depew speak
of the political situation in Great BritainP
as he tells this news it is Of absorbing in.
terest."
On the day that Mr.. Depew arrived in
New York he gave, as is his habit, rapid
sketch of his trip to the reporters who
called upon him. In this interview he
touched upon the politics of Great Britain
with some suggestion Of the influences
that are in play and some indication of the
probable course of events in Great Britain
within the next two months. What he
then said was of necessity somewhat hur-
ried and fragmentary, and when it was
suggested to him by the writer that it
would be of interest if he would say in q
connected and somewhat exhaustive way
what his views upon English politics were
and tell some Of those shings which he
has learned, he cheerfully consented to do
so, setting apart an hour when the bulk of
the business of the day for him is usually
finished.
That peculiar quality of Mr.. Depew's
mind which enables him to turn instantly
from matters of business consequence per-
haps involving millions to the trifles of the
moment which give him Joy, was illus
trated as the writer entered his Office at
the appointed hour. Mr.. Depew had been
in consultation with Vice President Walter
Webb. and then had been the Depew as
business men know him in business hours,
different man from the Depew of politics
or the social hour. His face is stern at
such times, and his manner has that self.
command and restraint which is charac-
teristic Of those who deal with the greater
business affairs of the time.
The clock struck. Maj. Webb rose to
depart, and the change from the business
Depew to the iovial and fan-loving Depew
seemed quite as sudden and impressive as
that which makes the scholar and the
bookworm on the instant become the ro-
mantle Faust.
'See here" said he, what do YOU
think OF these?" and he held up half
dozen cabinet photographs, and, lifting
the tissue protection, exposed the likeness
of Depew in various poses-full face, pro-
file with Alpine hat, and in serious or
in merry mood. Two of the pictures pre-
served what SO few OF Depew's photo
graphs do, the expression by which he is
best known to those who meet him daily.
How do you like them p he said.
81 don't. like the profile very well, but
this one is the Depew that everybody
knows" replied.
81 guess it is; that's what they tell me.
and think will send for some more of
these"
The photographs were taken in Germany
and were some of the finest specimens of
German art. As Mr.. Depew put them
away there followed gentle Jest or two at
his own expense, and then as he thought
of the object of the visit he became of o
rbu 4
Gladstone and his majority; the diff
Guilty which lies before him; the opinions
of the leading liberals of Great Britain;
the possible if not probable outcome.
These are some of the things which am
going to talk to you about. In the brief
interview which was published the day
after my arrival IL was not possible for me
to so deeply into the political situation"
Saying this, Mr.. Depew drew a chair to
the window overlooking Vanderbilt
square. and babe me be seated. and then,
drawing his own chair near he began; and
so measured were his words, SO deliberate
his utterance and at times SO impressive
and earnest his manner that but for the
softer tones of conversation it would have
seemed as though it were an address
rather than conversation face to face.
81 was" he began, brought very near
the men who are the leaders Of the major
ity party in the commons. l had not
only the chance conversation that is pos
sibe in public places. but had the good
fortune to get much closer to these able
men than that: and those things which [
have learned hich are of Importance came
to me when In close contact with these
men. l must not be understood as ex-
pressing any opinion of my own regarding
The political situation in Great Britain.
In what say l shall simply reflect the
best opinion there rs | obtained il.
"Mr. Gladstone, OF course. is carefully
watched and tenderly guarded. He has
colossal task before him. His burden of
responsibility Is enormous, and il Is his
overpowering personality which is to be
potent in securing the fruits of the victory
which gave him majority of forty, if
these fruits are 20 be secured at all. Now
see how great that personal influence
must he, If the measures upon which he
appealed TO the country are TO be sus-
tanned by the majority of forty which he
has He has, for instance, seventy Irish
members, not including the twelve Red
mondiies or Parneiittes. (Here Mr.
Depew began TO tell off upon his fingers
the various elements composing Mr.. Glad
stones Majority He has the Welsh Lib
erals. the Scoseh. the labor element and
the Labouchere following, as we'll as the
home rule English Liberals. These eie-
ments must be SO controlled that they
shall be willing 90 give support 10 4 meas
are or else defeat is certain. Such meas
! ure must be in the nature of "a compro-
mise. Mr.. Gladstone's majority will never
sustain such a measure OF home rule as
the sxtremer men in the Irish party de-
Inand. They will never support a bill, for
instance. which permits Ireland To become
practically an autonomy, bound ~ Great
Britain by the slender threads of treaties
which nay be hereafter changed OF per-