The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-08-25

to MIR. Bishop and Dir. Cartwright to
arbitrate the amount. cannot say
whether I went for Mr.. Spreckels 7
and brought him to the meeting or |
whether Mr.. Cornwell did; may
have gone down TO Irwin & Co.'s !
Office and reminded him of the
arrangement made. There had been
a previous arrangement made, there
vas a general talk, an agreement;
it was discussed more or less for a
week or two. Mr.. Cornwell may
have been present at some OF the
discussion and Mr. Bishop. Mr..
Irwin was not present at any of
those meetings; we would just meet
casually not at any appointed hour
or anything of that kind. Mr.. Irwin
may have been present l think, he
was one day standing near his Office
door when 1 was talking to Mr..
Spreckels on the subject, but l don't
know that he joined IN the discus
sion, or whether he just simply
stood off little bit and listened or
not have listened. The purport of
these casual discussions was to
bring about a settlement Of the case
by some peaceable method, arbitra-
ton. [ don't mean a division or par
tition of the estate, but anything that
would bring about settlement that
would give us our rights. The pur-
port of the thing was we wanted
compensation for the use of the land
and division whenever they were
ready for a division. should say
that it was positively agreed upon
between Mr.. Spreckels and myself to
submit this matter to Mr.. Cartwright
and Mr.. Bishop; there was nothing
in writing. 1t is not the fact that on
the morning of that meeting went
to Col. Spreckels and asked him to
be kind enough to go over to Mr.
Cartwright's Office to explain to them
the situation with regard to the oc
cupation of the land. The meeting
was broken up so hurriedly that
there was no chance to discuss much,
ny understanding was they went
there purely and solely to try to
make an agreement about the com
mons. l think l stated all that !
said at the meeting in substance
When we went to Maui that after
noon J. had sick headache come on
from riding in the sun. [ suffered
so much that / could not eat any
supper that night; it was pretty
bad attack. / think the other gen
tlemen of the party were aware OF
the fact-Mr. Cornwell and Mr.. Mon
sarrat. I think l was in a condition
to transact an important negotiation
at that time. [ was ready to go into
it at any time that night and waited
for the game of cards to break up. ]
would have made my best efforts tc
have made a settlement. It don't ut
terly incapacitate me from work if ]
have a sick headache. If I was suf
fering from sick headache l would
consult my own mind about doing
work, not my friends. I think Mr.
Hopke played poker then. I saw
very little of the game; they were ir
another room, and neither Monsar
rat or myself played, but Mr.. Fowler
I remember, and Mr.. Spreckels anc
Mr.. Cornwell, and my impression il
that there was a fourth party il
there. Mr.. Fowler was my guest.
never notified Col. Spreckels in writ
ing that he must not use the land fol-
raising cane. 1 never notified him il
writing, but I consider all my act;
amounted to a notice. / was not il
q position to tell him that he could
not do it. I did not in so many word.
tell him that he could not. / never
told him or anybody connected will
the Hawaiian Commercial Company
that their fence should be takel
down. [ never asked Col. Spreckel'
or anybody connected with the Ha
waiian Commercial & Sugar Go. tc
allow me occupy any portion of the
land they had fenced on the com
mons. / lost four hundred head O.
cattle through the fencing of thu
land. If / had possession of the
land might nave made some use O
it; if it had not been taken possession
of I could have made q very advan
tageous arrangement with the Wal
luku Plantation on the consolidation
scheme. The Waikiki Sugar Co.,
understood, had water which they
could take over to that side of the
commons. The Waikapu Co. had NJ
water to take over, they were very
limited as to the supply of water
and it was said that by damming uI
the mouth of the valley, by expendi
ture of a certain sum of money, {
great deal of water could be saved
and used for the lands below, anc
the winter water stored in some way
If the Waikiki water and Waikapr
water on those two plantations had
been consolidated they could have
utilized all those commons to great
advantage, or the best part of thu
commons. / never tried to rent any
water from the Waikiki COMPANY
individually. I don't know whether
my Company has. I don't know
whether the Waikiki Company hac
any water to spare to rent out, that
don't know. The Waikapu Company
was not interfered with in the use Of
all the land outside of the fence built
by the Hawaiian Commercial Co.
don't consider that we should have
the use of the whole land. I dom
think the land enclosed in the fence
of the Hawaiian Commercial Co
would have been of any use to then
without the water. l have known
other kula land of Waikiki and Wal
kapu belonging to others being uset
in the same way, by the Company
being able to bring water on it; they
pay 5000, 1925 and $3.50 an acre fol-
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