The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-11-24

years ago. When the late Minister |
of Finance had announced that the |
Queen was willing to have reductions |
begin with her salary, he had thought |
there would be no trouble. She had |
S124,00 for the period without any |
further appropriation. He believed
Her Majesty would be satisfied with
that, in which case this other could
be stricken out.
Minister Jones called attention to
the fact that the $4,000 already
drawn would have to be appropriated.
Noble Baldwin said if Her Majesty
her salary reduced it ought to be
done. He would like to know whe-
Their the Ministry had said anything
to her about it.
Minister Jones said the Cabinet
had called Her Majesty's attention to
the necessity of economy and had
asked her to suggest any changes in
the bill. She had returned them a
copy of the Appropriation bill with
some changes, but nothing was said
about anything in the civil list.
Rep. Ashford admired the spirit
which had led the Minister of Fin
ance to take so much trouble to revise
the Appropriation bill, but he be-
lieved it had been done under mis-
taken idea. He proposed practically
to revoke the reductions of the bill
for eight months. One Of the
more or less late predecessors of the
present Minister of Finance had in
tended a horizontal cut in all salaries.
The present Minister thought that
would be unjust. He must again
differ. No officer had vested right
to any particular salary. Even if his
proposal involved some hardship to a
few, it would be better that that
should be borne rather than break
down a whole line of sound prece-
dents. He should oppose the PROPOSE
tion to reduce this item or strike it
out. He had not wished it passed
without making an inquiry into the
revenues of the Crown lands but the
House had thought otherwise.
Attorney-G General Brown said up to
1854 the Crown lands had been treated
by the Kamehamehas as their private
property. In that year the Legisla-
ture passed an Act creating the Crown
Lands Commission. Whether they
had right to do so was question
portion for the Government and
| King. Whether the Legislature, after
that, could assume any control of the
lands would be settled in this ques-
ton which was coming up. AS to
these salaries, the schedule of the old
bill had been adopted because it was
the only one available, and the at
tempt to adopt the new schedule be-
| fore it was passed would have created
boundless confusion. The figures OF
the Minister of Finance should be fol-
lowed, as that would be the only fail
course to employees.
Rep. Waipuilani moved the previous
question. Carried.
The vote stood as follows:
Ayes. - Ministers Wilcox, Robinson
Jones and Brown; Mobiles Berger, Ena
Hopkins, d. w. Pua, Cummins. Will
liams, Male, Kauhane, Hoapili, Young
Baldwin, Walbridge, Anderson and Drei
err; Reps. Wilder, Bipikane. Aki, s. X
Pua, Kauhi, r. w. Wilcox. Kaunamano
Kamauoha, Waipuilani, Kapahu, Nahi
MI, White, Kanealii, Kaluna, Iosepa
Akina and Smith-35.
Noes. - Mobiles ]. NJ. Horner, Hind
Marsden and w. Y. Horner; Reps. Ash
ford, Bush, A. Horner and Edmonds-8
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and Kanoa; Reps. Koahou and A. S
Wilcox.
The item passed as proposed by
Minister Jones.
Her Royal Highness Princess Kaiu
LAM, $4,000.
Minister Jones moved it read:
To November 80, 1898. 1882 2
To March 81, 1S94...... ...... -. 1867 z
IOtdl...... ...... ...-..... SOUuO "
Rep. Ashford said what was just 70
the Queen was just to the heir to TIL
Throne. He moved to insert $4,000
with the word apparent" stricken
out and the word "presumptive" pu
in. He proposed to give the Minis
tiers dose of their own medicine. A
to the word "presumptive," he ha
instructed the House two years age
but the lawyers had laughed at him
When they came to look it up the,
had found he was right.
Rep. r. w. Wilcox moved to in
crease it to $4,000, to include he
} travelling expenses. He wanted tn
Princess to travel around Europe, t
, learn how Cabinets must be appointe
according to principle" The presen
Queen carried on her Government &C
cording to Hawaiian principle. LIE
this Princess, who was getting a
: English education, learn Englis
2 principle. This House had been play
ing foot ball with Her Majesty's Cab
nets as fast as they were appointed.
Rep. Kanealii said travelling an
2 learning languages were all very wei
2 but what did it all amount to? Afte
all the Princess would have to tax
1 the oath of office in Hawaiian.
0 Rep. r. w. Wilcox said it was we
t known that when the item of S12,O(
was proposed, the member from Wa
4 luku had held up both hands and bot
e feet.
!, Rep. Kanealii hoped the PresideI
s would instruct the hon. member M
i to insult him, the hon. member frol
l Wailuku.
). Rep. r. w. Wilcox said to pacii
|. the gentleman he would take bac
: what he had said about his feet.
e The motion to pass at $4,000 faile
!. upon the following division:
Ayes. - Mobiles Pua, Cummins ar
!. Male; Reps. Bipikane, Ashford, Ak
> Pua, r w. Wilcox, A. Horner, Waipu
, lani, Kapahu, White, Edmonds, Loser
y and Akina-15.
! Westminster Wilcox. Robinson
- Jones and Brown; Mobiles Berger. Ho
{ kins, Kauhane, J. M. Horner, Hind, Ho
pill, Marsden, Young, w. Y. Horne
:, = Walbridge, Anderson and Dreier; Rep
u Wilder, Kauhi, Bush, Kaunamano, X
= mauoha, Nahinu, Kanealii, Kaluna ar