St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-08-14
The Special Council Commit
tee and the Street Car
Service.
Final Determination Of the
Committee on MIR. Low
RVS Proposals.
The City Railway Magnate
Will Give His Reply There
to Tuesday.
Text of the Committees Ulti-
matum and Full Discus.
sion Thereon.

q IleetlllS vi lL6 JOiut Special COll-
mittee on street railway matters was
called for 10 o'clock yesterday morning.
At that hour Messrs. WolterStorff. Van
Slyck, Franklin and Zimmerman, of the
committee; President Lowry and Vice
President Goodrich, of the street rail-
way company, together with Attorneys
II. j. Horn and nj. d. Mum and Assist
ant City Attorney Michaels, were pres
ent. Previous to the talk with Mr..
Lowry and Mr.. Goodrich the committee
discussed the propositions submit
ted Oy Mr.. Lowry at a previous meet
ing. That part of the proposition
regarding the pavilion improvements at
Como park, with the concessions de-
handed by him, were not acceptable to
majority of the committee. Five years
was considered by them a sufficient
length of time for Mr.. Lowry to have
exclusive control of this plant in case it
was established. The proposal to
change the transfer system so as to
allow no transfer after Z D. III. on Sun
days and legal holidays was hardly
what the committee thought was fair.
Mr.. Lowry and Mr.. Goodrich were
invited in and the conference waXed
warm.
Mr.. Lowry said, as the committee was
not agreed as to just what was wanted,
1t would perhaps be better for them to
submit in writing their conclusions and
send them to him at Minneapolis.
= Aid. Franklin was very anxious to
know how the State street service was
to be fixed up.
State Street Service.
Mr.. Lowry replied that a better serv-
ice was being considered for the State
street and Maria avenue line, and be
thought it would not be necessary to
trouble the committee with the matter.
Mr.. Goodrich, in reply to a question
as to the Fort Smelling line. said 1t was
the intention to make a through route
on the line of forty minutes instead of
an hour as at present. The matter
would be adjusted without the commit
tee taking action.
The grievance about the poor service
on the jackson street line was brought
up. The best thing that could be done,
at least the best in the opinion of Mr..
Goodrich, was to run short line car
with fifteenminute service to some
point beyond Thirteenth street. and a
long line car with all hour service
through to Maryland avenue.
The transfer system brought out the
viewes of the members Of the commit
tee. who were nearly unanimous against
the proposition of MIR. Lowry.
Mr.. Zimmerman said the system was
good as far as it went, but changes were
needed.
MIR. Lowry said he was willing and
anxious to inaugurate the same system
that Was in force in Minneapolis. That
system was to give transfers at some
point where all cars passed. or where
oil nix To
have an agent at the nearest where they
did.
Transfer on Parallel LINES.
Mr.. Goodrich said they could not give
transfers OH parallel lines, so that pas
sengers could ride down town OH one
line and return on another at a cost of
% cents to themselves, as was done so
often, and the committee agreed that it
was not fair play. MIR. Goodrich added
that he saw no objection to giving
transfers to any line except between
Grand avenue and Selby avenue cable,
the two West side lines and the Rice
street lines. In regard to the abate-
ment of transfers at certain times as
condition of making improvements at
Como. Mr.. Lowry said they must have
some concessions for the greet outlay.
Aid. Zimmerman and Franklin said
that rather than abandon these rights
of transfer, the park Improvement plan
might be given up at once, for they
never would consent. Aid. Franklin
questioned Mr.. Lowry as to the prospect
of the park being paying investment.
Both Mr.. Lowry and Mr.. Goodrich
agreed that it would not be for transfers.
To question of Aid. Zimmerman, as to
whether the new business would not
pay, Mr.. Lowry said with the transfer
system the more the patronage the
worse il would be for the company.
Aid. Warren suggested the cutting off
Of transfers on the Como and interurban
line.
MI Lowry said, with some sarcasm,
that he would consider any proposition
the committee had to make. even ii il
was for the issuance of some of the
stock.
a map was shown MIR. Lowry with a
proposed route through the park paral-
lei to Van Slyke avenue. Mr.. Lowry
expressed the opinion that this might
be satisfactory.
The committee then adjourned until
p. In.