The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1892-11-23
THE LEGISLATURE.
10Th DAY.
TUESDAY, Nov, %, 1892.
Afternoon Session.

The Assembly re-convened at lao
o'clock and discussion was proceed
ed with on Noble Marsden's light
wine and beer bill
Rep. Pua offered an amendment
that no licenses be issued in districts
where saloon was now licensed.
Rep. Iosepa was opposed to the
bill. He characterized the intro
Queer as one who was already the
father of one measure which had
proved destructive to the interests
of the country, viz, the mongoose.
Uaughter.) Now it was proposed
to introduce another destructive
measure.
Rep. Bush spoke at considerable
length in opposition. He considered
that the only proper use for alcohol
was to preserve that which was
dead to prevent it from rotting. He
moved the bill be referred to a COM
mittee to report to the next session
of the Legislature.
Noble Marsden agreed that liquor
was a curse. The knowledge that it
was so in the Hawaiian Islands was
the introduction of this bill. This
was a step in the cause of temper
ance and at the next session he
would advance another step.
Rep. Bipikane said that he was
surprised at the introduction and
amount of interest which was taken
in this bill. He had not heard of
any petitions being presented to ad-
vance this measure. None of the
general public had presented any
prayers that this bill pass. On the
contrary the petitions tended against
the passage of any such measure.
The general cause of complaint at
present in the community was lack
of coin, not lack of liquor. This
measure, if passed, would only assist
in making the already wealthy
saloon-keeper still richer and the
poor Hawaiian still poorer. He con-
sidered it strange that Noble Mars
den had not introduced some meas
ure which would tend to the general
prosperity of the country, rather
than one like this which would assist
in further depopulation and poverty
Rep. Kapahu said that he was in
favor of the bill. He could, if he sc
wished, tell stories of the beneficial
effects of liquor. He thought that
discussion enough had been had OF
the subject, so he would move the
previous question.
Noble Baldwin and Noble Thurs
ton desired the member to Withdraw
his motion, but he declining so to dc
the motion of the previous ques
ton" was put and lost.
Noble Thurston said that tn,
question was one upon which thos'
on neither side could afford t,
be dogmatic. He had opposed
the indefinite postponement of TIN
bill the other day so as to allow TIN
presentation of argument. HI
favored the idea that something
should be done. He, since hearing
of the Gothenberg or Norwegian
system, believed that that system
should be Investigated and therefor
he would favor the motion made b,
the member (Bush) for reference t.
a committee to report to the session
of 1894. To that end he had draw
up the following resolutions:
Resolved, that commission O
five persons shall be appointed t.
whom Bill GOA shall be referred, wit
instructions to thoroughly investi
gate the subject of the sale of wine
beer and spirits, with view to nit
gate the evils of the traffic therein
and more particularly to investigat
the working of the so-called Gother
berg system, and report to tn
Legislature of 1894, whether eithe
or of such systems is suitable fc
adoption in Hawaii, and if so and j
any event to present bills carryin
out the system recommended b
such commission.
Rep. Kaunamano said that he di
not believe that this bill would b
the, cause of the further decrease {
the Hawaiian race. Hawaiians ha
been drinking rum for the last
years, therefore the statement tn;
this measure would further injul
them was all idle talk. The bill WI
intended and he believed it woul
tend greatly to reduce drunkenne
or at least the evils attending indu
gence in spirituous liquors. If til
opposers of this bill would introdu,
a law prohibiting the introductic
of liquor into the kingdom he woul
aid them. But he favored this Bi
Rep. r. w. Wilcox favored Il
bill. At the present time stror
spirits were surreptitiously sold q
over the islands; this measure won
assist in stopping that traffic.
was said that the passage of the b
would assist in killing off the few r
naming Hawaiians; he knew tn
= they were now being killed off |
the licensed privileges already exis
ing, and he considered that lig
wines and beer would be more of
] benefit than curse to general S
ciety. He had in France, Italy al
Germany noticed the indulgence
these lighter beverages and drunk
men were the exception. He thong
that a man who did not indulge
something stimulating at times
!. ways indicated his mean dispositi,
in his looks, while he who took
glass of wine or a glass of beer {
= casionally was healthy and jolly al
doubled the length of his days. ]
y looked upon the bill as a useful tel
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