St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1892-07-23

about $50 rifles. 500 pistols, ammunition
and night clubs. About tWo-thirds of
the men had previously been in our EN-. =
ploy. They had no authority over the
other men. All were under the charge
OF r. ri: Hines. trustworthy, prudent
and reliable man. an old emplove of our
agency. About no men were from Chi
cago. rs from Philadelphia and 100 from
New York. All met at oungstown, O.
The arms on the barges, said MIR.
Pinkerton, were in boxes, and were des-
tined for the yards and private property
OF the Carnegie company. Our instruc-
tons were that they should not be
given to the men until after they had
been sworn in by the sheriff, and we
were assured that that would be done
upon the first sign of trouble. We would
not permit the men to use force to re-
cover possession! OF the works unless
they had been sworn in by the sheriff.
Inc men were not instructed to fire
upon strikers. and would not have fired
upon them had they not been attacked
and SIX OF their number killed.
We were advised by counsel that we
had perfect right to send watchmen
from one state to another. We have
never attempted to send an armed body
anywhere. The principal deputy sher-
iii OF Allegheny county accompanied
our men. In twenty years, he said. three
men had been killed by their watchmen
up to the time of the Homestead affair.
In every instance they were sworn in as
deputy sherifTs or police officers.
SIS Per Day From Erick.
In answer to question by Mr.. Oates,
witness said that Mr.. Frick had agreed
TO pay him Is a day for each man fur
nlshed. His men only went armed when
acting as peace officers,o when defend
ing life and property. They did not
carry arms through the country. but had
them sent TO them. The occasions W hen
they went armed were when on trains
defending eXDieSs and railroad prop
erty, and on these occasions they never
used arms unless forced to do So Wit
ness did not refuse to furnish men to
MI. trlck unless they were sworn in.
The arms used at Homestead were
shipped from Chicago.
Mi. Oates asked this question: ''Haye
you ever furnished men as guards to
travel on trains transporting the mails
or interstate commerce."
Answer Yes, sir. in the case of the
burlington strike and in the New York
Central strike. | think wherever we
have done strike work for railroads at
times We have furnished men to ride on
the trains. They probably were armed,
but it would depend On circumstances.
They went armed on the New York
Central to protect themselves from as
sauit
Mr.. Plnkerton stated that he was a
sworn peace officer-a deputy sheriff
and he made 1t a rule always to swear
In MS men except in the case of railroad
services.
Touched His Sore Spot.
Nj
trouble occurred when the strikers
claimed always that they did not en-
courage violence.
Mi. Plnkerton made an answer that
hit squarly at the Knights of Labor men
present. lie said that he had never
seen a strike when labor organizations
or their men had not abused nom
union men. He had seen men knocked
Oil trains: he had seen them beaten al
most to jelly; he had known members
OF this very Is. OF L., whose representa-
tIves were here, 10 put distractions on
the track and to put dynamite under
cars; he had seen men who wanted to
work treated worse than SavageS by
representatives of secret labor OrganiZa-
tons, and he had had them sent to
prison for it.
William A. Pinkerton was next sworn
and corroborated all that his brother
had said
The committee adjourned subject to
call of the chairman. Ii further testi-
mony. touching new points. is offered
Within day or two it will be received;
otherwise the committee will begin the
preparation of its report very soon.