The Daily bulletin., 1892-12-20
THE LEGISLATURE.
15lsT DAY.
Morning Session.
TUESDAY, Dec. 20, 1892.

read and approved.
Noble Williams, from the Printing
Committee, reported two bills
printed
Rep. Smith. from the Judiciary |
Committee, presented reports on (D |
Stamp duties, in which the com
mittee present an amended bill, and |
(2) in re the proposed amendment
to the Act to Re-organize the Judi
cary; the committee present an
amended bill. Both reports received
and tabled for consideration with
bills.
Noble Kauhane, from the Com
mittee ON Education, presented a re-
port on the bill relative to the ap-
pointing of teachers to positions in
the common schools. Committee
recommend bill be tabled. Report
received and tabled for future con
sideration.
Rep. Waipuilani, from the Public
Lands Committee, presented a re-
port and amended bill on home
steads. Tabled for future considera-
ton.
The Minister of the Interior re-
ported that Her Majesty had signed
Bill 1873, to exempt certain forest
lands from taxation; Bill 206, relat-
ing to the vending of goods and
merchandise; Bill PIG, relating to
duties; Bill l26, relating to high
ways; Bill 70, relating to dentistry
The Minister also answered the
questions relative to the action of
the Cabinet in the matter of the
veto of Bill 175, to regulate the hours
of labor of certain Government en-
ployees and stated that they did adj
wise Her Majesty to exercise her veto
on the bill. The Cabinet also say
that if the Bill is passed over the
veto the wishes of the Legislature
will be carried out by the enforce
ment of the law.
The Attorney General gave notice
of bill to prevent the landing of
fugitives from justice and stow
aways, in this Kingdom.
At $50 the Order of the Day was
moved and consideration of the veto
question was taken up.
Rep. Kamauoha moved that the
consideration of the Bill be indef
nitely postponed and that the veto
of Her Majesty be approved.
Noble j. NJ. Horner was opposed
to the veto. The House had stood
on principle previously and had
ousted or Cabinets simply on
principle when the members thereof
we're acceptable to the House and
were willing to act in accord
with the desires of the majority.
For the members to sit quietly down
and allow this bill to remain vetoed
would be to stultify themselves. He
did not blame in anyway Her Maj
esty but Her Majesty's Ministers
who were the advisers in this mat
ter. He did not think that it was
proper to have four men like the
Ministers turn on the members and
slap them in the face, it was dis,
graceful.
Rep. r. w. Wilcox said that he
, agreed with Noble Horner in regard
to the principle. He had found
however, that those who spoke the
loudest and strongest in favor oI
principle only staid with those prin
ciples as long as it suited their con
1 venience and no longer. He wa.
) opposed to this bill at the first anC
t he would now support the veto o
: Her Majesty.
Rep. Kamauoha said that Article
As of the Constitution gave He
l Majesty right which she has used
, He favored indefinite postponemen
l of the consideration of the matter.
, Rep. Bipikane said that this Bill
was passed by this House. Now h
saw that there are good many tina
,, are going to stand by the veto. III
:. was opposed to the veto and he wa
! going to stand by his principle ant
= vote against.
;. Rep. Smith said that he woul,
A take issue with the Ministers in re
4 gard to some of the grounds offere
a for the veto. The Legislature has
T. perfect right to say what the dutie
&c of certain officers shall be and wha
v their compensation shall be. If tn
= stand taken by the Cabinet was pre-
" per then they could say how man
clerks they should have and wha
their pay shall be. He was not j
favor of the bill but when it cam
[ to saying that the Legislature ha
,r no right to dictate then he objected
Rep. Ashford said that there VIZ
no doubt that the Sovereign had til
d right to veto the bill, and by the az
O. vice of the Cabinet it was clear
5 Her duty to do so. He believe
of that the veto should not be car
e. lessly or freely used and in matt'
er so trivial. The message which CONE
'r back with the royal signature, as az
vised by the Cabinet, contains
I'd reality nothing, it is a most pueri
d document He did not know wi
a drew the veto message. He did n
ly know which member of the Cabint
Ill Minister Brown Gnterrupting)
drew it.
A. Rep. Ashford You did? Well
IS am sorry that you drew SO weak
or argument.
IA Minister Brown-It is only on
'h par with some of yours.
Rep. Ashford said that he GO
sidered the document most we
K. and puerile. 1t was not necessary
y, set the ponderous machinery of I
of veto moving in so slight matt
to He considered that there was me
~ noIicv than nrinninln involva1 i'm 1