The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1892-04-13
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Representative Cooper in Rebuttal to tho
Charge Concerning Hersey.

tnhrso CONCERNING
WASHINGTON d. c.. April l2.-The special
Pension Office investigation committee of
the House resumed its session to-day.
Mr.. Enloe informed tho committee that
the old lady who loaned money TO Ford
was too sick TO appear before the
committee and suggested that her
statement be- taken. He further
stated sto.the csmmittee that the lady al
legged to have been improperly approached
uy Ford was reluctant - appear before the
committee. because she did not desire TO
face the people in the room.
Representatiye Cooper made reply to the
charges contained in Commissioner Kaums
affidavit OF last week-fled as testimonyto
show that \. X. Hersey. whom he denomi-
mated as his (Coopers 81 private secretary, had
violated certain regulations Of tie Pension
Office.
Nr- Cooper told of his acquaintance with
Hersey. who after being discharged from the
Pension Office told him he was going 10 open
An Office in this city AS pension attorney and
wanted to make arrangements with him. III
connection with other members OF Con-
gress. 10 assist thom III the work they
might have before the Pension bureau-
After inquiry he found Hersey entirely relia-
Die and competent and employed him at s10
per month 20 furnish assistance and informa-
tion reouired in relation . matters connected
with pensions. and this was how Hersey had
authority 20 use his name on congressional
call slip. Whatever Hersey did In the way OF
furnishing information IN the manner
CHARGED by the commissioner was done with
out his knowledge or consent.
Continuing Mr.. Cooper said: The first
information | had that Mr.. Hersey was re-
ceiyinQ pay for work done over nv signature
was when received the letter fIom Morgan
containing s25. Immediately sent tor Mr.
Hersey and told him that | could not allow
him - receive pay for that kind OF service
and returned the money TO Mr. Morgan"
II say here" said Mr. Cooper, that never
at any time did ask or accept one single cent
Tor any service growing out OF my connec-
ton with my public service, neither directly
nor indirectly and defy any human being 10
show TO the contrary"
Y. NJ. Taylor. a former special examiner.
testified that he had filed letter from Gen.
era Logan. and that Theodore Smith. di-
vision chief, had distracted.
In answer TO the charge that he had pro-
vented Frank Deaire q soldier from obtain
ing pension, witness SAID that Deiaire mas
been granted seventy-two dollars per month
and $4,000 in arrearage, but that ne
was dead. He had lived WIN wo-
man ont of wedock and witness re-
ported against turning the money
over 10 this woman. His action was approved
by Commissioner Tanner. Witness had never
assisted in circulating stories about Commis-
siouer Raum. nor had he ever acted As spy;
II he had. he would probably now DO IN the
Pension Office.
Judge Payson asked what was meant by
the last remark. .,,
Witness replied: "Just what said"
.'Be more explicit" said the Judge. Who
do Won mean would have kept you IN oiiics
had you acted the spy" ~
We'll" replied the witness. If you want
10 knowit is this: II had toadied to the Com.
missioner of Pensions rs did others would
have remained In Office"
James Eager testified that after he had
loaned t65 10 Wayson and had secured It's re-
turn on demand Wayson had hun recalled py
telling Commissioner Raum that the witness
was pension rsiector"