The morning call., 1892-07-20

times he would saw he needed the money.
Finally one night Ellis accu sed nle of being
drunk and discharged me, owing me 81.
This he refuses to pay me.
Once while was working for him he sent
me to dTessmakeT'S in the Phela1 build
Ing with a bill for $50 he owed her, instruct
ing me to ask her to wait day or two and
not do anything and he would pay 1t. His
reasons, as / have since understood, for not
playing the monograph stocks was that he
owed Mr.. Spear, one of the men who run
the exchange, for three months board for
himself and wife, and he did not want to
give him chance to collect any of the
money he might win, and also that he did
not want to be known"
POulter makes number of other charges
against Ellis as to the latter's dealings with
him, accusing him OF many things.
A call at the Public Stock Exchange con-
frmed Poulter's story in so far as the state
ments he made about playing the game as
&C. L. A." DR.. Ellis presence in the ex-
change al various times every day, and the
ex-mluister's indebtedness to Spear, al
though the latter gentleman refused TO do
more than merely say the story was true,
but that he cared nothing for the debt; it
was all right. etc"
Then DIR. Ellis was seen. He was found
at his desk in the Kearny-street Office. and
told Of the story.
''Poulter is a blackmailer," commenced
DR.. Ellis. HE is more. he is an EN- bezzler."
When told that it made no difference
what Poulter was or was not DR.. Ellis con-
tinued:
1T is true 1 employed Pouter and fur
nished him money to operate in stocks on
the Public Exchange on Stockton street
We wanted to test the matter. We are
looking for investments in every direction"
who are we. doctorO was asked.
WHAT ELLIS UNDERSTOOD.
"Why the California Prom pteI'5 Associa-
lT tHot M pa tfn
Exchange was a perfectly legitimate con.
Germ, and we wanted 10 test it,"
WHO are the others in the Promoter
Association with you, Mr.. Ellis? ?"
II must decline to answer that question.
There are four OF us and / am the repre-
sentative here. We are not Incorporated
and / am not at liberty to mention the
names Of my partners"
"But in answer 10 a charge made that you
and only you, DIR. Ellis, composes the
Promoters Association. What then?
We'll" said the ex-preacber. suppose
the charge is true; what then? Is any one
hurtP
THAT is question / canuot answer"
said the reporter. ''The whole thing is
this: You pose as an association. Now
one man cannot be an association. Your
concern is not incorporated. Nobody is
known in it but you. Now. il it's legiti-
mate enterprise, and there are responsible
men connected with Ii, as you say, why
should they hesitate to be known"
well, I'd have to consult them. But
about this Stock Exchange business, / as
sure you 1t was only an experiment on our
part to find out about IT"
But why should the Promoters Assoeia-
ton want to experiment with anything Of
the sortp You know that the phonogra oh ic
stock exchange is but a game Of chance
the mere guessing as to what man has
talked into photograph the night before
don't you?"
II know nothing about it." said DIR.
Ellis.
Then you want me to understand that
the Promoters Association. unincorpo-
rated, and whose members are unknown.
save yourself, is engaged in spending It's
money experimenting as to whether an in
vestment Is gamble or square"
"No-o-0; not exactly that But -
and the ex-preacher stopped.
After vaInly trying to learn the names Of