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The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1892-11-03
BURNING ON AND on.
Rain Falls to Check the Forest FIres
Raging In PENNSYLVANIA.

GREESsBURo, Pa, Nov. 3.-Latest re-
ports from the forest fires sweeping the
mountains, show that the light rains OF
the past "a hours have not checked them.
Thirty thousand acres of valuable wood
land has been already destroyed. Tho
aggregate losses may foot up more than
$4,000 in tho neig borhood OF Waterford
n
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1892-11-03
was Suffering From Insanity.

DUBLIN, Nov. 3. - Coroner's inquest
upon the bodies OF Sergeant Logan, his
wife and two children, murdered by Goa.
stable Bilkinton al Bsllinadrins, res ulted
in a verdict OF murder and suicide while
suffering from insanity. The evidence
showed that insanitvwas hereditary In
ths murderer's family.
The Providence news. (Providence [R.I.]) 1891-1906, 1892-11-03

PARIS, Nov. 3-Col. Dodds, commander
OF the French forces in Dahomey. pro
poses 90 execute King Behanzin after he
captures him.
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13
L.II IBllDUBI'lS
Y CO MPANIA
e EXPORTADORE ES
DE WHERE'S Y MERCAN0IAs AMERICANS
New Y ork.
CON SUCURSALES,
RMr K7zxxs n GO -x q II nj xrrG
CON SUCURSALES,
an EHTEAaO z SAN EU4S.
LN 5alefO5l LIrza
GUARNIoIoNERIA CoLcHoNERIA
de Jose Torres y Perez.
UNIco EN FL RAA6O

FL dueno de este acreditado establecimiento 20
ene el honor do parScipar al pdblic0 haberlo tras-
ladado de Ia SalIo do Totnan adm. Al La de San
Francisco mum. SO, local mas amplio c6ntrico en-
donde ofreoe clos al Pdblico en los ramos
expresados s los que ha eonsagrado mas de velnte
anos de praotiea los prncipalss talleres de Ea-
HOpa.
C0nfecciOna c0mpOHe tOda clase de arnessa
para oabalos do e0cbs slta.
VeEifca todo trabaio dbl ram0 de g0arnic.o-
nerfa 6 talabarterfa, por difloil compiIcado uae
sea, aaf como construye tambien coichOnss. alms
hadas, lonas para oanlas, maletas de cuero carGs-
sas de yiaje, cinturoaes demas objetos pertaae.
Tiene oil gusto de 0frecer tambi8u 6 las sen -
ras senoEitas un variaio surtido de eiaEuroasn
de Ultima moda y de todos preciOs.
Construye c0rreaies para nailitar8s, volunsa-
rios armada
Ofrege 5smbien un Yariado surtido de funaaa
de rew0lyera; asf negras como de colores, 3saa p
grabadas, sill as de mOntar para sanoraa cabalio.
ros, elegantes cabezadas con adornOs senciilas
brjdas espuelas de varias classes, sudader0s, foa-
tee y TODD 10 necesario para enjaezar un brioso
caballO con la eegancia gustO que pueda desear
eli mas apuesto jinete para montar CON orgull0
Acuda 81 p6biicO que desee prOporcionarse
esos artfouios cuaesQHlera otros del ramO, este
acreditado establecimientO, en- Ia seguridad de
lue quedar8 sumamente cOmplacidO, 40 solo por
"a buena calidad de los ebjstos, sino DOr eu eIe.
sancia , baratura al extreme de no tenar compe-
seneia en- s0da la Isla, pnes La norma de ga duelo
ao 90 otra que deJar complAcidO 81 gustO mas ext
yente de aus faV0recedOrss,
PueTGo-Rico, 8 de Diciembra de 1891
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

q UDW1G DUPLACE, IeGuan =, 5lros om
stones, mercancfas secas, fabrica do licores
&agentes de los vapores dc Sobrinos de Her ;era,
Companies de Seguros Marftimas ' de aeen-
OS. etc.
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

As@ RICO, CITLDANES y 90, Tetuan 3s, alme
3 cenistas de provisiones de todas prooedencias
d para vGntas Dor mayor.
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

a. 4MALON q Co., san Justo IL, As6onao V
u riado surtidO de mercancfas, agentes de La
- RqMjtGtivG' Sociedad de Seguros de Vida,
Existenciaa de hil0 especial para eoser.
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

mOCHOA HERMANOS Tetuan Is. Comi-
ssienes, giros almacen de povisiones dc todas
wprOcedencia agentes del yapor costanero EMF
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

= . lLAAl6, KABlAN 7 o. Almacen de Mer-
a canc1ss al por mayor. San Juato IS. Sus
tiendas al detail, La BagGa0ssss0 y La C;@dad
CoNdGl,
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13
La EIQuitativa

SOeledad de S0pnrcs aOhre Ia Vlea. a.es.
S119, sohrsnte s28 740.447. = : 80
Els La 5niea sociedad anerlcana apfn,,. a.
cor IN Real Daoreto para hacer narocos - =,
Cnba, PEo-Rioo y FIltnlaas. =.
Ea fanhi@n Ia 6nica snofadad oue az 1,,,..s
lag poNsas TosafSssas EEbvssfsas M eas,.ass
,a Gov - ,.s !, u. Jaime Ggra.
na-;.s.n.s... -. 'sss T s$sEp ns la IEIa efla
. - - 2 go IN ~
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

Spa NOEL ' co, San Justo IA, Surtido general
@de quincalla diversidad de efectos, Vantas
B tpOr mayor detal
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

n UOKBOREB De 9, MASJUAN . 90, San
u Francisco A, Gran almac6n de muebles. Pc
ID amos objetOs de fantasia
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

3 Z sENANCIO LUNA z BOBRINO, Tanca :,
~ Gran establecime0to de tOda Claee de conservas
v1nos, heoEes, etcs pOrcelanaa dnaa, cristale
ria, etc
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

= EsARGARIDA y Co, Luna 81, lTnac6l De
@A muebles de tOdas classes torneados. dltAma
KY MnOvedad,
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

q. UCESOR DE QUEVEDO Y HESS, Marina,
Y agentes de compra venta de frutos, Eabrica
u de ncores. Garantiza la pure "a de los ynernos
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

RaANIOS FILLP1, San Justo 81, almacen DE-
"a lAmparas de todas classes,
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

EOSE T, SILVA, Tetuas Consulado
M6jico, Banquero comisionista, Agente prin-
3cipal de Ia Companie General Transatlantique
yvapores FIanceses) Correspongal del Credit Lilo
lndiO de Paris, Representante de los EatabLeci
mientOs de Gail de PARTS, de la Compa1ia de So
guros contra incendios sNouwich' y de la Compania
espanola Alianza de aseguradores " de Barcelona
Tiene sucnEgal en- Aguadilla
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

r ELK NJ. .BOADA.-AgenciaM Martina Conner
= e1al situada en- la calle del Concrete, Marina,
Aespaldas del Deposito Mercantil.
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

AARCELO Y PERUJO, Tetuan 35, Complet.
Nsurtido de provislones para ventas por mayor
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

r. RATIO T1NAUD, San Jose IL, Joyeria y ca
AHsa de prestanlOs,
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

-. INLAY BROIHERS, Marina, Casa de girOs
Sa comisiones, compra venta de mercaderias en-
general San JustO
La correspondencia de Puerto Rico. (San Juan, P.R.) 1890-1943, 1892-04-13

n VELINO ELIzALDE, San Francisco 43, Gran
M surtido de tejidos de novedad para Sras Ca
Rballeros, artfculos para viaje, y especialidad
n camas de hierro etc, Importaciones directae
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28
oFFICEH0LDERs AT MINNEAPOLIS.

1t was, perhaps, we'll for Mr. HARRISON
that he issued his order against the appear-
ance at Minneapolis OF federal officials as
delegates. 1t was well, because, whilst
there is an impression abroad that the off.
cial patronage is big thing in the way of
assistance to the administration. there 10
also a prevalent idea that the president
should not employ his appointing power to
secure a denomination. The president
would undoubtedly like to have in the con-
vention the votes which would be cast bv
the of1ceholders, but he feared the pres
ence of so many of the administration an
pointees might be resented by other dele
gates and disaster rather than benz.
fit come from convention made
up so largely of men who held offica
at his pleasure. 1t was good politics 10
order the office holders to stay at home
correspondent who has been KEEPING
track Of the convent ions, says that more
than one hundred delegates selected are
federal Office holders. Such sprinkline
Of men who would not dare support anv
other candidate than HARRISON would have
been apt to antagonize the independent
delegations. Out of twenty-six Georgia
delegates twenty-five are ofice-holders.
They include the United States marshal
six postmasters, four railway mail clerks
three custom house officials, five internal
revenue collectors, the district attorney
and assistant district attorney. The reau.
lar Alabama delegation contain thirteen
off1ce-holders, including six postmasters.
three postal clerks, one register of the
United States land Office, one United States
marshal, one assistant United States at
torney and one receiver of public lands.
North Carolina sends seven federal
officials, including the collector of
internal revenue, the collector of GUS
toms, United States district attorney.
inspector of customs and two postmasters.
Four of the eight Florida delegates are
officeholders. including three collectors of
customs at Key West, Tampa and Jackson
vile, respectively, and collector of in
ternal revenue, The regular Mississipni
delegation has ten officeholders in it, made
up of two United States marshals. an az.
sistant district attorney, two postmasters.
four revenue collectors and Auditor LYNou
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28
GRANITE PAYMENTS.

The Boston aldermen who were here the
other day, or such of them who talked on
the subject, advised against the use of any
other paving material on business streets
than granite blocks. These gentlemen
should know. Their experience has taught
them which is best, for they have seen
various materials tried, and have seen none
which equaled granite.
Ever since there has been talk of paving
the streets The HERALD has protested
against the use of anything else than
granite on streets where there is heavy
traffic. We have done this because
we have seen in other cities various kinds
of pavements, and have observed that the
only really successful one is granite blocks.
The best of the others soon get
bad. Some are rotten, some get I'M
even, bricks chip and break, wood
wears and goes to decay, and so they
run; but granite remains, being always re-
liable and requiring few repairs 1t may
cost little more at the outset, but in the
long run it is the cheapest, and especially
will it be so in this country where there is
SO much granite of a superior quality.
tits pretty we'll settled that East Temple
street will be paved this summer The
property-owners with few executions, are
favorable to the Improvement, although
there is some disagreement as to material
vitriied brick, asphalt, sandstone snd
granite, each having its advocates THE
| HERALD hopes the interested parties will
agree on granite, because we are confident
that the work being completed all will be
best pleased with that material, while
there can be no doubt that the pavement
will be better and more durable. Other
material may be used on residence ant
streets where there is comparatively little
heavy traffic, but on the main business
thoroughfare we know of no other pave
ment which will be so satisfactory a,
granite blocks. If properly laid, the stree
will be smooth and free from ruts for
generation, and the cost of repairs will b,
nominal
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

The popular opinion of the gentleman is
that he will consent to no wastefuiness Of
the public money, no matter what others
may think or say of him. 1t is this char
acteristic which has caused Judge HoL-
MAN to be admired even by his political
opponents, and has given hip an enviable
reputation throughout the nation. 1t is,
therefore, incomprehensible and surprising
that he should now consent to such reck-
less extravagance, at the same time frankly
confessing that he knows it is extrava-
gance of the worst kind,
Furthermore, why cannot Judge HoL-
MAN give the people the benefit of possess
ing little common sensel He says he
knows the Mormons are honest and
sincere In their professions, and entertains
no fear that they will break faith with
themselves and the nation. This is manly.
and IS spoken like true man. Now, isn't
1t just possible that others in the country
see the situation as Judge HOLMAN sees it!
That the American people are ready and
willing to trust the Mormon people at least
until the latter manifest more sign of bad
We think so. The people who know the
SSoS AS
reason to believe that most congressman,
and especially those who are not narrow
and hidebound, place full confidence in
the Mormon professions that they
have discontinued the practice of
polygamy, are out of politics as church
organization, and have conformed their
conduct to the sentiment of the age and the
laws of the land.
THE HERALD deeply regrets the stand
taken by Judge HOLMAN in this matter, for
he is man Tor whom we have always had
great admiration, AMI he was one to whom
the people of Utah, Mormons and Gentiles,
confidently looked TO help them out of the
bondage in which they are held by this
monstrously partisan and shockingly I'M
American commission.
1t may as well be stated here and under
stood at Washington, that so long as the
commission is in existence there will be no
fair election in this territory and the bal
lots taken from the boxes will not repre-
sent the will of the people. The
commission is simply the willing
slave OF an insignificant and I'M
principled faction, doing the bidding
and aiding the schemes of that faction as
humbly and obediently as ever man fol-
lowed political master. 1t may also be
said that if the pleas of the commission
Tor its continuance shall prevail until the
members admit that they can go with
safety, Utah will not be emancipated dur
ing this gene alton or until it has been
safely lodged within the Republican fold.
II Judge HOLMAN and others of our pre-
tended friends do not understand the
situation, If they are not familiar with the
facts, it is high time they learned the truth
and were guided by it. 1t must be Utah in
perpetual serfdom or a Republican com
monwealth, or the abolition of the Utah
commission. This is no idle assertion, but
declaration the truth of which is fully
understood by every citizen of the ter
ritory.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28
HOLMAN AND THE COMMISSION,

There is an inconsistency between the
utterances and actions of Judge Holman
chairman of the House Committee on An
preparations, il relation to the Utah com
mission, which has not heretofore been dis.
covered in the distinguished economist.
He says to our Washington correspondent:
recognize the inefflciency and the absolute
uselessness Of the Utah commission. appre
ciate the fact that the money expended for the r
salaries and travelling expenses is practically
wasted. 1 know too that they can do everv-
thing they are required to do in a week, and II
had my way about It they should be limited
as 1 told you some days ago, TO a compensation
OF $40 day and their travelling expenses while
actually employed.
And yet he proposes to continue this
useless commission which has nothing To
do, at an expense to the government of
about s75, 900 year. Judge HOLMAN ex-
cuses himself for this rank inconsistency
this going back on his life's record. by saw
ing the people are distrustful of the Nor
mons, though be doesn't share that dis
trust. When before has Judge HOLMAN
been reckless with the public money be-
cause he feared the people if he practiced
the economy which he knew TO be rightg
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

NEW point Ia presented in the presiden-
tial situation relative to what may trans
pIre at Minneapolis. 1t appears that Mr..
BLAINE is in such q condition Of mind that
he will give encouragement to almost any
BODY who approaches him with fair and
hattering words. No one has been able to
quote syllable from him favorable to Mr..
HARRISON, although his refusal to be a
candidate for the presidency has been gen
orally taken as sigu that he would like to
see the present incumbent renominated
But lately Mr.. BLAINE has indicated to his
personal friends that he by no means be-
heves b. H. is the strongest man to make
the race on the Republican ticket. 1t is
claimed to be true that he lately said MIR.
HARRISON ought not to be candidate"
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28
PREMEDITATED JOKES.

RAMS Horn: The spider probably thinks that
the bee is wasting time in making honey.
Judy: At Sea-She-'.And why is ship
called 'she'"' He-"Aye, ma'am Because the
rigging costs so much"
Brooklyn Life: Soulful youth Qanguidly)-
DO you sing Forever and Forever'?' She
(practically)-"No stop for meals"
Judy: The Bearing of It-'Then, perhaps
you're afraid that couldn't support wife:'
Not in the least but 1 think that wife might
find you insupportable."
Hd1per's Bdzar: Quack-"So you prefer me
to DR.. Bill?" Mrs Mulligan-"Och, indeed
docther, dear, yere dale better than the other
ould 'umbug'
JeUe!erS' Heekly: Mrs. Con Fiding-"Thesc
are my new diamonds, Bridget. They are blue
and of the first water.'' Bridget Launderry-
"Shure, mum, who ever heard of blue in the
first water?'
Black and Hhte: Coslin-'I-ah-have called
sir, to-ahem?-a for your daughters hand .
Old Kidder-"My dear boy, have you any idea
of the quantity Of gloves she needs in the course
of a Year,
Brooklyn Life: At Progressive Euchre
Party-Mrs. Moses (winner of the prize)-"It's
q very pretty pencil, but where can 1 get the
leads?n Mr.. Levi Ghe hosD-"My tear Mrs.
Moses, we have them for sale sheap at oul
store"
New York Weekly: The Thoughtful Husband
First Club Man-'''What on earth have yor
got in you pockets?" Second Club Man-"Tht
striking gongs from the clocks at home wa.
afraid they'd keep my wife awake"
Boston Transcript: Patient-"Oh, doctor, Vol
don't know how it worries me to think that
might be buried alive" Doctor-"Cam your
self, Mrs. B. You need have no fear OF any
thing like that. Trust to me, and 1 assure 70,
that you are in no danger
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

ELSEWHERE IN this issue of The HERALD
will be found communication from Hon.
MOSES THATCHER, which was called out by
q letter which appeared in an Ogden paper
over the signatures of President JOSEPH F.
SMITH and Hon. JOHN HENRY SMITH, whose
contribution to the Republican literature Of
the day is also printed herewith. Our read
ers will, of course, peruse both articles,
and we hope that nobody will accuse Mr..
THATCHER of cruelty. 1t seemed necessary
for him to perform the act of excoriation,
but ne has done the work with such skill
and delicacy rs deprive the operation of any
suggestion of brutality or any desire to be
unnecessarily severe. The sympathy for
the Messrs. SMITH will not be aroused be-
cause they have been subjected to the skin
ming operation, but because they invited
the performance
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

OF ONE thing there is no doubt in the 20
litical situation, and that is that President
HARRISON does not undertake to conceal
the fact that he is an actual, positive, af-
tirmative candidate for re- election. Ex-
President CLEvELANDis, in sense, similarly
candidate; that is to say it is not doubted
that II nominated he would cheerfully &C
cept. But no one can say of Mr.. CLEvE-
LAND that he has in the slightest degree
undertaken to influence state or con-
gressional district in his favor If he is
nominated it will be wholly because the
Democracy of the country has full faith
and confidence in his ability, judgment and
patriotism. He will, in that event, go
back to the White House entirely free and
untrammeed.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28
A SPRAINEn ANKLE.

This is 3 common occurrence, and QUE
that will lay people up ordinarily six to
eight weeks, yet we will guarantee Bal
lard's Snow Liniment to cure any case of
sprained ankle in one to three days if ap
piled at once, aud to Immediately relieve all
pain. Snow Liniment will cure any old
sore on man or beast. 1t will heal all
wounds, and cures sprains, burns, scalds,
bruises, sore throat, sore chest, lame back,
eorns, bunions. For rheumatism, lumbago,
neuralgia, contracted, muscles, it has no
equal. Do not elicw any other white lini-
ments to be 2ut of on you for Snow Lini-
ment. There is no other like it. ASK for
Ballard'S Snow Liniment. Sold by q. C.
M. /. drug department.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

SENATOR HILL having returned from his
trip to North Carolina, where, by the way,
he made an excellent speech, will now, no
doubt, devote himself TO the business of
the United States Senate. There is no
question but that he will prove an excel
lent representative Of the interests of the
Empire state when lie really gets down to
work, for no man Ia New York is better
posted as to the needs of the state. nor
none who can set them forth more effec-
lively.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

OF the treasury department. South Caro-
lima sends ten officeholders in a delegation
OF eighteen, Virginia sends nine office
holders. Kentucky seven officeholders,
Louisiana ten officeholders.
The exclusion of these pap-suckers from
the convention will take no votes from
HARRISON, as the alternates will carry out
the wishes of the delegates. Hence the
political wisdom of the President in re-
tanning all his strength and at the same
time avoiding the giving of offense to those
semi-decent men who do not like to know
that the executive holds whip over dele
gates
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

Good looks are more than skin deep do
pending upon healthy condition OF all the
vital organs. II the liver be inactive, you
have bilious look, ii your stomach be dis
ordered, you have dyspeptic look, and if
your kidneys be affected you have pinched
leok. Secure good health and you will
have good looks. Electric bitters is the
great Alternative and tonic, acts directly on
these vital organs. Cures pimples, blotoh-
es, Dolls, and gives good complexion.
Sold at A. G. Smiths drug store SOC, per
bottle, =
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

NOTHING THAT has occurred in the poll
tics OF the last year or more shows that
MIR. CLEVELAND regards himself as can
didate for the presidency. No one can
point TO any effort or endesvor of his to in
auence state delegation in his behalf.
And yet throughout the country no mans
name Is moro frequently on peoples
tongues than CLEvELAND's. This surely
is 6 case of the office seeking the man.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

TAMMASY Is not the sordid and selfish or
ganization it has been charged with being.
1t viii not antagonize Itself against the
Democracy Of the county, but will cheer
fully and cordially join in with tho good
opponents Of Republicanism in ell sections
to achieve next November the greatest
victory ever won by the party.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

TITS q sign Of the decadence OF the Re
publican party in Main e that all the poll
ticiens there claim that Mr. BLA1NR's
nomination for the presidency is necessary
to keep their party in line. His personal
popularity, with his magnetic influence,
Is an important factor to hold the rank and
file in line. This is highly complimentary
TO MIR BLAINE as man, but does not speak
particularly well for the party.
The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1892-05-28

THE LOUISVILLE Col5fer-Jau,nal is about
the only Democratic newspaper in the
country which tskes & lugubrious view OF
the party prospects next tsll. Its issue OF
last Tuesday morning is chock full OF
lamentations over the evidences of the
Democracy Of the United States being fav.
cradle to CLEVELAND for president. And
yet Kentucky is not doubtful.