The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-07-08
AFTERNOON SESSION.

Second reading of Bill 81, to divide
Hilo into three judicial districts. Re
ferred to Judiciary Committee.
Second reading of Bill 5S, to au-
thorize licensing sale of light beers
and wines. Referred TO the Temper
ance Committee.
Second reading of Bill 50, TO re- !
codify the Penal Laws. Referred to F.
the Judiciary Committee.
Second reading of Bill 50, to abolish /
the office of the Auditor General.
Noble Macfarlane moved that Bill /
so be referred to q select committee.
Rep. Kamauoha moved it be passed |
to engrossment. The bill was simple.
Let the office be abolished. 1t was
supertluous.
Rep. Ashford had had three years
official experience of the workings Of
the Office and it had not commended
itself to him. The office should either
be abolished or the law radically
amended. He believed in ministerial
responsibility and did not believe in
placing q dictator over the Ministers,
responsible to no one but himself.
Both sides, however, should have
careful hearing. He favored the mo-
ton to refer to select committee.
Noble Macfarlane withdrew his
motion and moved reference to the
Finance Committee instead.
Rep. Ashford moved to amend by
adding two other members to the
Finance Committee, one of them to
be the introducer, Noble Horner.
Noble Horner said he had intro
duced this bill into the last Legisla-
ture, and was more than ever con-
| WINGED that the office should be abol-
| ished. 1t had cost the Government
about 500, 00,and he could never learn
from any Auditors report, that the
| Government had got its money back.
1t had never prevented the Ministry
| from stealing, but it had caused some
loss to the Government by preventing
| the Ministry from doing things which
it thought absolutely necessary.
| Nobody was needed between the
| House and the Ministers. The House
would call them to account, if they
did wrong. This office was the fifth
| wheel to the financial wagon. Before
passage of the Audit Act the Finance
Minister was the principal auditor,
but all the Ministers and all the heads
of bureaus, were also auditors.
Noble Baldwin favored reference of
this bill and another of which notice
had been given to committee.
Perhaps the fifth wheel could be
creased up and made to look a little
better.
Noble Macfarlane thought that it
would be time enough to pass on this
bill, when the other bill had been
seen. He hoped then to be able to con-
vince the Noble from Hamakua that
his views on the subject were entirely
erroneous. He did not believe the
member had ever visited the office or
that he knew anything of its work
ings. The member was entirely off
as to the running expenses. This
item of $4,000 was rendered necessary,
solely because they had paid the
salary of the Auditor while they had
to employ another man to do the
work. 1t was not part of the regular
expenses. The audit system was con-
States. 1t was absurd to talk about
the Ministers and heads of bureaus
auditing their own work. The mem
Der might run his plantation on that
plan, perhaps; $4,000 accounts had
been audited during the past biennial
period. The office was no sinecure,
1t was great safeguard against Min
listers overstepping the laws. There
were many other things which might
| be said which he would defer until
later. He hoped the House would
treat the matter fairly, and refer to g
committee.
Rep. Kamauoha favored abolition
of the office.
, The bill was referred to the Finance
Committee with two members added
, The President appointed Noble J.
Nj. Horner and Rep. Ashford.
The committee on Bill 50: Rep
Kamauoha, Noble Cornwell, Rep
White, Mobiles Cummins, Neumann
, and Williams.
: Second reading of Bill 81, to make
r Hama and Makaweli ports of entry
: Referred to the Committee on Com
J merce.
: Second reading of Bill Is, to create
7 permanent settlement for Queer
l Kapiolani. The report of the select
r committee on the bill was read. The
} committee recommend reduction o
, the amount to $4,000 annually.
Rep. Kamauoha moved the bill b,
so amended and pass to engrossment
Rep. Smith moved the bill be laiC
} on the table. The item would come
9 up with the Appropriation bill.
2 The bill was laid on the table.
} Second reading of Bill 50, to pur
e chase dimes and half dimes.
+ Noble Thurston moved the bill pas
e to engrossment. 1t will bring tht
Government an actual cash profit
5 and benefit the community.
1 The report of the Finance Commit
, tee, recommending the passage of thu
l bill, was read.
3 Noble ThurstOn explained the bill.
Rep. White moved the bill pass t.
, engrossment.
r Rep. Ashford said he was glad t.
2 learn that the country could enrich
. itself by paying cents worth o
' debts with six-tenths of q cent. He
favored, at that rate, $1,000 in
t nickels. The member had made il
l very clear that money consisted not il
value, but in the Government stamp
! He hoped the Finance Committee
would be in the same frame of mine
when it came to consider the bill tC
:. provide for issue of paper money. Thi:
2 whole thing reminded him of a neigh
Dor of his who had tried to lift him
self over fence by his bootstraps
l He had one objection to the bill. He
1 was afraid the coins would come dowr
/ with King Bolabola's image on. He
3 had no intention to make light of the
2 Act, but thought it did not go fal
, enough. He would move to amend
by making the amount S1,000,000.
2 Noble Macfarlane said the membel
: for the third district had tried to bt
facetious. He did not intend to trea
2 the members speech with seriousness
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