The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-06-02

firearms to SELL know MIR. Markham
he has been in my store TO price ire
arms; [ never sold any; l sold that rifle
10 a native he spoke English Dir.
Markham came with him; l don't see
the man [ sold it to now; l can't say he
is there; that was near the end ~
March.
VIM. Olepau sworn: am Iab-ret;
formerly worked for Mr.. Charlie Ahl; /
know Wilcox and Ashford and these de-
PENDANTS; | was present at meeting
where some OF them were present, not
all that meeting was at Bipikane's in
April on Tuesday night, | have forgotten
the day of the month, during the second
or third week, | think; Wilcox, Ashford,
Lot Lane and Bipikane were there, and
others, | don't remember them now;
didn't go to see who was there. Mf.
HartWell requested the witness to brace /
up so that the defendants could hear /
when | went in there was a Bible on the /
table; the idea OF the Hui was Hui /
Aloha Alma, and to change the cOnstltu- /
ton by applying to the Legislature; /
Mr.. Wilcox said if it could not be done !
through the Legislature it would have to /
be done by using guns, the same way as |
the present constitution was obtained;
that part after Wilcox said it was a hui
aloha alma, that it would have to be by
guns, was what Mr.. Kenyon made me
say; he said men had been there who
| said it was to be done by guns, and if
/ you don't tell the truth you will be hung
/ we only want to get at the principals, SO
/ you say that and save your life
! Sensation in the Court. On a
! Saturday when Mr.. Rosa was there, we
were told to tell the truth, otherwise we
la NJ that's
correct Mr.. Rosa read the statement to
me which Thompson had written before
| signed it; | said it was all right; was
not asked whether anything was wrong
about it; Mr. Rosa didn't tell me that
all that was wanted was the truth
Mr.. Rosa Didn't | examine you from
beginning to end? You questioned me
about the whole statement and asked if
anything was said at the meeting about
Overturning the Queen, and | said L
didn't hear anything of the kind; after
that l had private interview with Ken
yon, and he told me | had better put it
in about overturning the Queen by force
of arms; as to the written statement, l
told you on Saturday | was doubtful
about it,
Mr. Rosa read, from written state
ment in his hand, that Mr.. Wilcox had
said that if the new constitution could
not be got through the Legislature it
mnst be got by force OF arms, as the
haoles did in 1887.
The witness said: Not exactly like
that, but, if equal rights could not be got
through the Legislature then perhaps the
only way would be by force of arms; Mr..
Kenyon was not present when | told you
) that; when l had that conversation
with Mr.. Kenyon only he and 1 were
present; he was writing; afterwards
Thompson came and wrote that; when
he wrote it Wilson and Nahoolewe were
, present; Kenyon came in and said, in
English, to the Marshal, has that man
given in? My statement to Thompson
about my going to the meeting was cor
rect; Mr.. Kenyon induced me to say
that about getting the equal rights by
force it was not because l had heard
Wilcox say SO; had not got over the
effects of my talk with Kenyon about
being hung, etc., when [ talked with you
; that is how l came to make that state.
, ment; l had not forgotten what Mr.. Ken
yon had said even if week had elapsed
Mr.. Rosa told me anybody who lied
/ would be punished, so told him thai
; story; 1t was not true; Mr. Rosa;
; statement that purjerers would be pun.
ished was made in the presence of about
twenty of us; no one has told me thai
my statement made down there woulc
, be of no account if / came here and made
: another; / took the oath at the meeting
| remember some of it; great many
were being sworn at the same time; VIZ
) were to be steadfast members of the Hui
t and those who betrayed it were to suffe
9 the death penalty; | don't know exactly
? how many were admitted that night;
E know Geo. Nawaakoa; [ saw him Their,
t that night; l heard nothing sait
: about the supply of arms; | am not
r driver OF govt. cart now; l was work
ing on the wharves at The time of thi
r meeting; no one has told me what to sa,
here thought had right to correc
: what l had said before; this is unde
:, oath the reason l made that statemen
!. down there was to escape those penaltie
= which were shown me; Mr.. Kenyon said
- in English, to me, ''now, William, it i
q no use your telling me lie, you will &c
" yourself into trouble you will be hung
% we have got you fellows in good fix; now
" the only thing l want you TO tell me is t.
~ tell the right; we will let you go and vol
4 fellows down here; the only thing W.
n want is to get hold of Wilcox and Ash
g ford" He repeated it two or three times
. that was the talk which produced al
:. effect on me; l remembered that talk
:, that is all he said; L thought l had bet
!. ter corroborate the statement kenyon
v said the other man had made; | went t.
: meeting at KIla's.
4 Cross-examined: | didn't see any
q thing good to drink at the Station House
- | had little at home before l started
T Kenyon didn't tell me who the man wa
o who testified before me l supposed
Il was Puhiwi, as he came out before
;. went in; have heard he is witnes
= here l saw him outside.
;. Mr.. Hingley, sworn; Am carpenter
, am employed by Mr.. E. b. Thomas, OIL
o King street; l have seen George Mark
o ham had transaction with him abou
q the sale of rife; it was about five o
q six weeks ago; it must have been il
: April; l sold him two; don't reColleC
p what time of day it was, nor when h
= took them away; sometime between
6 in the morning and in the evening; h
. paid me for them.
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