The Wichita daily eagle., 1892-12-01
oeJecToR HOLMAN TAlks.

tends to renew the fight he made at the
last session for . reduction in the appro-
priations, and he viii, u he has the power.
draw the knife little closer than he did
then. He does not think an extra session
Is necessary.
$50 FAR as the tariff Is concerned" he
went on, Il think much more can be ac-
compiished by doing that work IN the or
dinary manner and through the ordinary
channels than by calling AN extra session.
The only reason that could be advauced
for an extra session would be the condi-9
ton Of the public dnances. Extra sessions
are rare, and have only been called on &C.
casioDs OF great emergency. That condi-
ton does not appear To confront US now
am not prepared to say :hat there will
be y deficit that will demand such y ses-
sion OF congress ! see by rhe papers that
there will be. perhaps, E5o0,oOO in the
treasury that will be available. outside OF
the 500 ON, 600 OF reserve. Ii this coming
session reduces expenditures, as it ought
to, and as believe II will, that amount.
together with the revenues, will run the
government until the end of the fiscal
year. There will probably be "A failing OF
In the revenues. for We can hardly hope
that they will exceed $450. .0o0. 0O0, but that
aud the SIS, 0Oo, 600 should be sufficient for
the legitimate expenses OF the govern
ment.
"But what will be done to provide for
the intervening time between the end OF
the fiscal year anu the meeting of congress
liz December foilowingP was asked the
chairman of the committee which controls
the finances of the government.
That" he replied, depends upon what
this congress does There should be re-
ductions all along the line. 60 that the
revenues will not bS less than the expend-
itures. Some Of these appropriations have
to be met in full AID will not permit OF
any cutting; sucn. tor instance. as the pen
sion bill, the Soldiers home and lie saw
ing appropriations, and matters OF that
class. But there are other bills wherein
very material reductions can be made
The suudry civil ought to be greatly re-
duced. There are lew departments OF the
government where the expenditures are
not grea ter than the public service re-
ouires The incidental expenses have
grown to an enormous extent. l believe
that the Republicans In the senate Will
act with US In reducing ali these matters
to the minimum.
This question OF public expenditures
entered freely iuto the recent campaign
II has created sentiment that 4 have
never heard expressed as | have during
the past few months. The tendency of the
federal government toward ex.rava9 auce
has had its effect upon local government,
both state and municipal, and as the fed
eral expenses have kept going up the ex-
penses of local governments have kept
pace with them. People have finally be-
come alarmed over the condition this is
bringing US TO, aud they are looking at it
from AN entirely different standpoint. A
halt must be called on this extravagance.
and the Democratic party must do IL
When asked what be thought Of the
proposition of Senator Jones to encroach
upon the Sl0O, ,O00, 700 of Reserve, Mr.. Hol-
man said that he, for one. was not quite
ready to accede to that proposition. He
did not think il would be at all necessary
TO do SO in order To tide the governrnenG
over. Il have always looked upon that
immense reserve as something upneces-
sary," said Mr.. Holman, and l believe
that very soon 1t must be done away
with. II looks useless TO hoard up that
money that way, and why should it be
dones As y security tor the governments
notes? The greenback Is legal tender,
iudorsed by the government, aud just as
sound as if that reserve was not Ia the
vaults of the treasury"
Mr. Holman Is OF tue opinion that the
coming session will do but little more than
merely pass the appropriation bills. He
thinks the question ot an Income Tax Will
figure very largely in the discussions OF
tn, house. and that the matter OF ImmiXra-
tlon may be considered To some purpose.
"a n Income tax Is a very popular measure
ia Ohio aud Indiana aud, indeed. through
out The entire west, he said. There are
many potent reasons why 1t Is being SO
widely considered at the present time
The people, especially of the west, believe
that the wealth OF the country Is inter-
ested in the lavish expenditure OF money.
They see that unless you interest
the wealth of The country in be-
half of economy there will be no miti-
CATION of the evils of extravaganza BY
mr.. fls,er ham ftx-..
| tending TO frugAlity. a fair, jndicious,
wholesome income tax will do this as
nothing else can. Such n tax will be
wholesome because 1t will interest the
very men to demand "A frugal expenditure
OF the public money, who are now arrayed
on the side of extravagance. l do not
| think that We should levy AN income tax
to pay the pension bills or any other
special expenditures, but that II should he
levied as a fair aud equitable means OF
raising money TO pay portion of the
general cost Of operating the govern
ment."
There will be no new ships ordered by
the coming session if Mr. Holman Can help
| it. 1--WE have more ships NOW than We eau
| man, more than we ever had before In
time Of peace," be confined On this line,
| "and " ho is going To assume the RESPONSE
bility OF increasing the personnel OF the
navy? A large navy is dangerous, it is
dangerous 10 the party III power and with
| the implements OF war at hand IL is en-
| ,irely too easy TO get into trouble. We do
| not need it. Diplomacy is our weapon. A
| single note to Napoleon lett MsximIilan TO
| his fate. aud "A note To Englani that we
were dissatisfied with the Alabama matter
sent her ike u culprit before a justice OF
| the peace and caused her TO submit TO fine
| OF fifteen millions OF dollars.
| MIR Holman said that he thought the
suudry civil bill would be ready FOR the
/ committee within tns next three days,
| and hs thought IL would bs tue first 20 be
Submitted TO the house Sill, be had not
/ discussed the matter with The fnsu,oers OF
| the committee A meeting OF the COM
mittee viii be held today it there are
sufficient number here, and as soon =
/ possible program Viii be arranged. sir.
| Holman eyidsntly expects 10 msks The
heaviest cut ia the snndry civil bili. AID
| wants to get IL before The house first. The
general pension biil Will also be ready for
| the COMMITTEES ss soon as it sits, and Will
/ b. pass.d upon without any delay.
/ Speaking OF the estimates. Sir. Holman
! saia Le thought the secretary os the
/ treasury would make his estimates even
/ less than the bills as they passed last year
/ Ia many of the appropriations liberal
allowances were mast- Tor ne-sird improve
rneut that viii not be needed this year.
/ and the esti mates wlii b. reduced by thst
amount at least. Taking the suEdry
civil As an instsisce. Mr.. HoImsn sad tssaC
| even If the estimates cziI-si for less stsa
the appropriations carried by the last dill
I he sas no Tessoa why a.sp cut could
/ nos be made IA addition. IL - very evil
dent from the n4aases OF Ar Holman
that be has prepared hImssii TO do a great
/ deal Of otisciisg When the appropriation
! bills come up for consideration.
] The REif-2kKePS.