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of the old Ministers and that the Min /
istry had also opposed.
Minister Macfarlane did not wish to /
asperse in the heat of discussion the /
gentleman's veracity, but he knew /
the gentleman had those convictions !
and bad them to-day. They had NOM /
mated the member from Lihue with I
a possible alternative of Mr.. Carter. I |
said there was no use in going further |
because there was a deadlock right /
there. We objected to Mr.. Smith |
and you objected 10 Mr.. Neumann. |
Rumors had reached Her Majesty
that she was Intentionally delaying
the formation of q Cabinet for her
own private reasons. Mr.. Peterson
urged that Her Majesty was anxious
to form Cabinet as soon as possible
The objection TO Mr.. Peterson being
urged that he was not going 10 take a
position in the Cabinet. / urged upon
him the sOundness OF that position.
Noble Baldwin, Rep. Smith and
others said to me, why don't you form
a Cabinet. We will accept you. But
l declined for business and other rea-
sons. Mr.. Peterson had informed the
House as to the recommendation he
had made to Her Majesty. The offer
ing them three seats in the Cabinet,
if they would concede Mr.. Neumann.
They would not accede. | then adj
visei Mr.. Peterson to take the position
of Minister of Finance. The caucus
| absolutely refused TO support Cab
! met with Mr.. Peterson as Minister of
| Finance and Rep. Smith Attorney
| General. [ had hardly turned my
| back, when a member said, Macfar-
| lane is sneak he won't go TO Pet
| erSou at all.
Noble Thurston-Tha is absolutely
untrue.
Noble Baldwin wished to make
correction. The Minister of Finance
was making statements which were
not true. These statements were not
made in any caucus. 1t was simply
few men talking the situation over in
one corner of the room. Most of them
said no; / said yes (as to supporting
Noble Peterson as Minister of FL
nance).
Minister Macfarlane - The gentle
men virtually represented the caucus.
They said Mr.. Smith would not go in
with Mr.. Peterson, and Mr.. Peterson
retorted ''Then I will not go in with
Rep. Smith,"
Noble Young thought the Minister
meant well, but his memory did not
serve him. Did not the Minister
agree in caucus that a Minister should
bring his candidates before the caucus?
Minister Macfarlane-T There was no
agreement in committee, and so there
was nothing to bring before the eau
Gus. 1t was very useless thing to
bring anything before the caucus.
Noble Marsden-D Did you not say
in caucus that you would not go into
office with Sam Parker or Paul Neu,
mann, and no man of honor would:
And you turned to me and said,
"Would you?n
Minister Macfarlane-I will get ia
the gentleman in a few minutes. | will
show him the soft spot on his head
The speaker continuing, said it was
suggested TO him that he was going
too much into personalities. Perhaps
+ that was true, but it was natural that
= he should reply to the misrepresenta'
z lions OF the members. The difficulty
: with Noble Marsden was that he was
/ | disappointed.
Noble Marsden | was offered ;
position two or three times and / de
f clined, and that is the truth. Yet
swallowed the bait as soon as it came
round.
! Minister Macfarlane said he hac
taken the office with great reluctance
! Her Majesty had insisted, and wa
: earnestly solicitous to have me form
one by Monday morning. [ askec
+ the Minister of Foreign Affairs to sc,
+ Mr.. G.. \. Wilcox, to see if he wOult
y accept. [ told him to tell him M,
G choice was Mr.. Parker, Mr.. Wilco:
a and Mr. Neumann. Mr.. Wilcox de
\. clined to go in with Mr.. Neumann.
tried to form Cabinet with Mr.. vii
= cox. He is man out of politics, an
= would have strengthened the Cabinet
= He would not go in.
: Noble Thurston Did he not ga
n that he would go in with w. o. Smit
r or &. l.. Carter?
It Minister Macfarlane: 1t was DC
If reported to ME. He had waited o
IS Her Majesty and asked if Mr.. Wilcox
n name were satisfactory. She said pei
It fectly. He not being Obtainablt
n Her Majesty urged me to form
e Cabinet as soon as possible. | the
al selected the Cabinet which is here t.
e day, and / hold myself responsible fC
st it, and there can be no sound obje,
r ton to it. / acted in the spirit of tbs
n resolution, and did not do anythin
ID unconstitutional, and no one know
as that better than the Noble frol
10 Maui, who is as good lawyer ;
l. there is in this country. AT the ris
lie of delaying this House little longe
e. he would refer to a transaction whiC
at occurred when Mr.. Peterson was NAL
lie ing an effort to form Cabinet. NJ
IL HOrner was approached, and
IN seemed to look on the matter fave
to ably. He came to my office and askt
ut if | had any objection to his beir
at Minister of Finance, which positiC
al had been offered. / told him l hi
st. none. I thought it would be got
of compromise. / knew Mr.. Horner w
t. not man who wanted everything
" nothing, unlike the rest of the Refor
On party. A Voice-Rot.l But / to
es him he would have to withdraw h
in bill. | wanted him to sign sOmethil
IL to that effect. Mr.. Horner said
at could not withdraw his bill, and tn
to ended the matter. This shows '
ad wanted to do everything, were rea,
he to do everything, but were alwa
us blocked because W. o. Smith was
in sisted on as Attorney General. BefO
ct Mr.. Neumann was thought of, \
m Hatch was our choice and Her NJ
de jesty's also.
ad Noble Thurston-We never Obje'
NC ed. You favored Mr.. Hatch when y
'ty knew he would not serve.
It Minister Macfarlane-That is an u
fair proposition, and shows t
,er methods of the opposition. The Mol