New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1892-12-15
IN FAVOR OF POOLING.
ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE SENNlE CUM
MITTEA
,,oro.r, AMENDMENTS 70 TIE INTERSTATE
COMMERCE LAw-srEEclIEs by MfSs"'

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ronrRrs. DEEPEN AND INGALLS,
wosliurron Dec. li.-There was -,
body # r., broad men IN the rooms Z" INV NM. -,
,,r.ta,. commerce this morning l"f 'n' P' A.,
nv g., ,assore of a bill Introduced IN "'
o,ot. fiji. week by Mr.. Cullpm hS i'p''' .
,,ordcd ,o authorize the railroads oi 'h' .o"""' ~
Tho committee ont In iorc'' anu
n- ,h,.o I'm attendance were Chaunc'y NJ D'p'"'
,o,Iont e the New-Norl Central; George j. hoD'''
nresd.nt Of the Pennsylvania NJ )" ''e"N" ,,.
do,, NJ III. BIG -Four" md IN" 'he'api"' '' -,
ud,c, 7 Waller: J. T. Goddard commiS,'o"'r VI r.
r, Limo associaiion, and W. = SoIl' "''"'
i'""" w 49,, n,o,yore Lackawanna and Western.
,rn,.o men, - Mr.. ingalls, said sub'eH"c"N ~
h ,,r,o .ontcd I'm the amount OF business "o"''
,,o,..f tho rnrcad Interests OF the 'hl'd St'u''
PRECEDENT Roberts. OF the P'nh'SN".''" ", 49,,
rr.t addressed thc committee. lie 'Ni NM" WY
,,uroo1 compani.s dcsfel the am' nHhen', 10 t,o %
and gave his reasons why they shonid pe 'u'P''
=, lie irdcn.nt tho interstate Commerce law mao ho'
s,od t. the benefit Of the public In the matter OF
,.,,,i,, discrimination. lie said, In the course Va
:, ,,orhs t,o1 he wanted 10 impress on inc CUM
r,it... tbe fact that the law, rs now ur'""' priv
ING railroad conf ancs from making arr'"t' "
roforence to traffic aErccment' lhd"'r' '"'''' A.,
,iors r. tLc law bv both companies ana Shippers, ~
ro,r.s did rnt think the Commission sh"u" Nv
allowed ,o rcrulatc rates. because u was nov III Tue
ere
a. roo,pr system the best but il was better Tor 'h'
,,, .tor tbo practice njw existing He was OF Inc
,inion that II was Of mnch ihPo''""'' ~ u"
n,IIle a, large that The railroad compa''N Sn""" "'
T.. allowed 10 charge TO, low rates rs II was ''"' ''N
should not hc permitted to cmrc" rates tha' "''' uo
Lirn Pooling might be AUTHORIZED ny oIs'e''' %
toe, 70 cancellation by the commission If iound !" "'
unjust .,ors
,r ,roa = movement on thc part II tie spectators
= draw, = uttlo nearer ~ Mr.. Depcw arcs" I" NP'"..
H. e,o.l with Goa, nnhuttoncd copy cf IN" "''I
I'm his hand and talked In "A Slow 'onN'' ,''"'
ronncr ON the subject Of raic' there W'' H. w..
q uisarprchonsion I'm the public nina. h'"' "'''
cona,ntly corc down during the t"'hF-S'N'" H
H., ,od hecn I'm the business. ana every c'' oi w"
reduction Ind gone 10 the public ana mo '''I'
Wages had increased % per cent IN" tn''r"'i, w..
rI. Iv invention end improvements when 'h'"''
thou, IN 4, tr,lr work more chrapy I"'> '""
,,,, draw 900 tons nj the cost formerly ''''n'I -
l,rI.n, 900 tons Tho profits 81 th" New "N WI.
tr,l were not ~ Great today Mr.. p"l~" c''".'''
81. v-'cn he first entered IL scrvic'. III" Ih''-''
C.rncrcc law had been established. he SAID. 10 pre-
CON, II .cri,nlnoilon: Int Is effect had been - pro
,o,.. tr,st, beyond anyt ing that had ever "'n
dreamed - There were cl-f roads between W"
y,r,, AMI Chicago. but 'r al the plrl'~'' =" '"
nu,llc her. was but one. II an hf'"u '"' W
canal rates under equal conditions "' ""' ""
o.,,,u.h.d th. New Yor, Central and III" T'll"-
other road, would q, Into bankruptcy. I'D inns WIZ
tl, Ia,y preventing pooling was creating irn'te.
NJ D,p.v. Illustrated tli- point hv Oh" fh'"hE
rri ,,,o from, Ncv York = chicago vas. D" 'at''
seventy I've cents II hundred. some q" '' u.s.
ClIcaro firm, who deliver eight aAl ''' ~. '''
- freight a dny demand - per cent on ms -
lv,vs refused by Tie two biz roads mentioned ana
u ,.,,,,,l. c,,rsc ~ o.. firms (. - seek To- break
ga. r,,.s and cripple other nnrs hv throwing h'l
e .ir traffic +, on. - th" ~ r'ads. The '"'l'''
up.. must h,v. business: and thcn comes in "l''
tie pnblic call ur beauty - COMPETITION III "'''T
=, get their share II trade The 'm'H'r '"'1' ~
,o,r,ou,., :, make yearly contracts ai 30 pr cent
of the current rates. Under ti- system. VT. p'p"
continued Il wa, matter - time ony Wien l"'
.r,,u d.i.r VIC v.ls compelled - pay the regular
tariff v,lld &, 80 The wall. II tis law commune"
I'm force Eve years longer. Nr. Dcp"w 'A'"f"' MR.
wond not bc an Independent business man IN hh' ~
IN. Iarr. cl'i,.- - IN" United states " WIS 'r'"'
f.. trusts. aid thl, condition u aUlS WI, u,'"S
brought about ly The miserable "PF""V'' VI INV
Intended - prevent thcm.
I, ro.p.u.e f. a query 80 Mr.. Cnlrm rs 10 how
flc evil wa 10 be cured Mr. pcpaw esid 'h"' "hue'
tho propos,d amendment ~" roads would DE- nn'"H
lied 10 make contract, upon a business pa'lS' ana
could nrrec up'u mie, which wonh be "'"A'S ln'
s,me to fllc public. The law would empower the
comparIcs 70 enforce their agreements. and the
public would he protected by putting the matter
urd.r ti,. control 81 III" commission.
In discussing the existing conditions MT p'l'"
said that IT would soon be impo~'lbl" for manu-
flctur.rs 10 exist except at terminal points s"le
mont Which caused Mr.. Brio" 30 ask II hc was !" %"
understood n meaning that N"w-iork and other CHE
Of like character would BE- favored 20 the dlsciin.m-
lion 81 such places as Lima Newark and other phc"s
ln ohio which the ONO senator named. To ms MI
Bcp.w replied that uui"r TIE operation Of III" present
I,, such rlnc,- would cease 10 rAist except aa thc
summer rc,dcncc, Of rnl'ed ~tatc. SENATOR
VI = Iu.all. president 81 the " lis Four ara the
started 10 speak, said that ulc effect Of ih" amend
oi-in1l pool Of The country. he Thought was t,at OF
l-7I between New York ana chicago. "mch th'
representative Of the Pcnn.' lvanin system ana nm.
solf entered into. j. continued ~ i"f'r un'n nc
I,s.ag ~ ihc Interstate Commerce Law. and while the
egn, thcy hp Ni"f SoMn al, Va c,Mn g,
the markets rather than th" RAILROADS Inc g"h,riI
public now paid the FIJI rni" ~hllr NE i,g d'iilfS
Trdnr thc existing law Mr. ingalls, said the small
dealers w.r being driven out Of business 20 the der
mont Of nc whole country II "hs Tor ~. lht"f'st
Of the whole country TINT ~" railroads should prosper
million men omi loved In the business ana t"ic"
that number engaged IN Manufactures thai iur-
nsleI railroad supplies. Those 1000 600 cmploves.
with their families. corfiiinir "u" it"thth "i VI"
popnlaflou o. the country. should 20 large pro.
ioro1 OF the poprlaiion Mr. ingalls, asked be- made
,h",,,t n ,cnc ,hr dnv 81 lie Government 10 take
gals said that II had come 10 the point where il"
ionts were compelled +, get nndcr IN" ,hadow OF ihc
were passed II woud not r"slilt In an increase OF
rates Lui In equal rates and In many cases In re
Mr. walker spoke briefly. and said that the object
Of the bill va. 10 suppress unhealthy competition
The committee viii probably hold another meeting
next Wednesday,
LOyGsHOREJEy FRACTURE MINIS SKULL.
Hugh Mcvclgh. Peter Green. John Larln and
william Nolan Of the crew Of the Ellen Mcclure,