The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-08-19

ity rep. Ashford should be allowed
% bring ia "A report.
Rep. Ashford had not intended IN
his remarks 20 criticize the intrOducer
Of the bill, but simply those gentle
men who had signed a report recon-
mending nothing. As for his shirk
ing, Noble Neumann knew that he
had worked with him on the Judici-
airy Com mittee till midnight
Rep. Nawahi did not favor any
night work. That was when the
devil and his imps did their work.
The motion 10 re refer was lost.
Noble MacfarlaDe said he was OPP
posed to the bill from beginning TO
end. 1t was utterly unsound and pro-
posed to introduce fat money, and
was full Of inconsistencies from be-
ginning 70 end. The time of the House
should not be taken up in discussing
the bill section by section. The bill
was utterly impracticable, and could
only result in disaster. The general
principles of the bill should be con-
sidered. He would move later TO lay
the bill on the table.
Noble Thurston supported the mo-
ton which Noble Macfarlane would
make, viz, TO lay OH the table. Until
it was known that the majority of the
House was in favor Of the principle of
the bill, it would be sheer waste Of
time to discuss the details.
Noble Homer said that was sound,
and he favored that course.
Noble ThurstOn, proceeding, said he
did not pretend to be financier or to
be deeply learned in the laws Of bank
ing, but he had considered and studied
the question from the time when the
bill had been brought forward two
years ago. Two objections were not
met, as ii seemed to him, by the in
PRODUCER Of the bill. Full credit should
be given the introducer for sincerity
and earnestness. The bill provided
that the bank should lend on equal
terms to everybody, provided the
same security be furnished. The bank
was required to lend to everybody
who offered good real estate or Gov
eminent bonds. What was to hinder
a man from paying taxes for $1,000 on
a piece of land worth only $500, and
borrowing in the same proportion? 1t
was claimed that a section of the bill
Obviated that, but it did not. Suppose
a man came down from the back
Il
a thousand dollars, and a tax receipt
on the same basis, what other evil
dence would the POstmaster-Gener
have as to the value of the land? Sup
pose a plantation had borrowed
100000 of the Government, before
the Mckinley bill; the same planta-
ton might now only be worth SO an
acre for pasturage, instead of 500
for cane, and the Government would
suffer great loss.
Rep. Smith asked what would the
Government have lost even if the
whole loan were lost. Nothing but
paper, would it not?
Noble ThurstOn said he would an
swer that question In minute. The
Laupahoehoe Plantation had cost
100000. 1t might have borrowed
$250,000 of the Government. 1t was
now going to relapse into a wilderness
of ferns and Hilo grass, and would not
be worth $4,000. This showed the
Government would be liable to be led
into situation which nobody could
foresee. II Hawaii had no relations
with the outside world, it could have
money which would be good here
only, Just as the Kahului Railroad
had coins of its own. But we could
not pay any debts in San Francisco
with Hawaiian paper. AS it was we
could pay debts there with gold or
with Hawaiian silver at its bullion
value.
Rep. White said the hon. Noble had
occupied a good deal of time, and
when he rep. White) had spoken at
length the hon. Noble did not like it,
but was always up and down like. a
jumping jack, protesting against his
talking.
Noble Thurston requested the Chair
man to order the member from La
haina to sit down.
Rep. Kamauoha insisted on speak
ing.
Noble Thurston insisted on not being
interrupted by the member from Ko-
hala.
Rep. Kamauoha said under Rule A
and resolution of the House, the mem
Der could only speak half hour.
The Chairman ruled otherwise.
Rep. Kamauoha appealed. The hon.
Noble from Maui had habit of vast
ing the time of the House, and should
conform to the rules.
A scene of great confusion ensued,
Rep. Kamauoha and Rep. White in
sisting on keeping their feet and talk
ing although Chairman r. w. Wilcox
ruled them out of order. Finally the
Chairman sprang to his feet and
| shouted, Chill White, sit down. The
member addressed remaining con-
tumacious, the Chairman ordered the
Sergeant-at-Arms to make him take
his seat. The Sergeant proceeded in
the direction of the member, but half
of the native members of the House
sprang to their feet shouting and ges-
ticulating. In the midst of the con-
fusion President Walker reassumed
the chair, and motion to adjourn,
which Noble Marsden had been max
ing in loud voice at intervals for
five minutes, was hastily put and
carried.