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AFTERNOON SESSION.

AFTERNOON SESSION.
The House re-assembled at 1:3O PM.
Noble Marsden said the Minister of
Finance had made charge against
certain official that he had last night
spirited away two members of the
House, and the Minister had charac-
teriZed that as one of the contempt
ible ruses of the opposition. He
moved this charge be referred to the
same committee as the Kanoa mat
ter.
Noble ThurstOn said he did not
care whether the motion carried or
not. The utterly ridiculous nature of
the charge was shown by the fact that
as the opposition had got to get
twenty-four votes
Minister Neumann-Twenty-five.
Noble Thurston- You sit down, if
you please. You can talk all day,
| after [ get thrOugh-and it would not
help them then whether they spirited
! away one member or twenty.
Minister Neumann said he favored
! the resolution.
! Rep. Smith would favor the motion,
| although the question was one of
want of confidence in the Cabinet not
| the House.
Rep. Ashford said the motion was
| out of order. If the President ruled
otherwise, he would support the mo-
ton.
The President ruled the motion out
of order.
Minister Macfarlane said the Min
istry had asked for a few days to de-
clare policy, but the Noble from
Maui had wanted nothing but their
scalps. They wished to vote them out
because they didn't like the cut of
them, and the constitutional plea was
a mere subterfuge. The opposition
was seeking to establish as a precedent
the right to vote out q Cabinet on
sight. If they did so it would come
back to trouble them. A great deal
had been said about representative
government. This was mere dust
throwing, as the Constitution separ-
ated the three branches of govern
! ment and provided that they should
remain distinct. That principle was
plainly laid down. There was nothing
in the Constitution to justify the con-
tention that his course in forming the
, Cabinet was illegal. He was not re-
quired to consult q caucus. That
would be equivalent to giving the
! Legislature power to appoint Cabl'
|
5 the executive. He was not here t.
] make any appeal to be retained. But
5 the attempt was made to make on
that he was violating a constitutions
5 principle, which was throwing dust
= He had not violated any principle o
D representative government. The At
t tOrney-General had already elabOr
e ated that point. 1t was incumbent OIL
5 the speaker, in view of the charge
:. preferred, to make some statement il
s regard to the way in which the Cabi
t net was formed. He would say tina
d the Hon. Mr.. Peterson was called t
# form a Cabinet. That gentleman ha'
made every concession ne could to tn
= caucus, which was in effect a caucu
t of the Reform party. He labored il
: caucus and in the committee meet
n ings and endeavored TO meet then
e fairly. Several attempts were mad
d without success. The speaker ha
e seen from the beginning that nothin:
It could be done, as the Reform part
n insisted on having Rep. Smith as At
tOrney- General.
It Rep. Smith: Were you a membe
of the committee
v Minister Macfarlane: Yes. If yol
e don't know it l am very sorry for you
pow els VI lGSOAICCtlOii. W Sic Sl
n pointed with J. Ena, and you wer
there yourself.
= Rep. Smith: No; was not present
e Noble Thurston: The Minister
d statement is an untruth.
Minister Macfarlane: In what re
d spect?
a Noble Thurston: That we insiste
on Rep. Smith First, last and n
o the time, the difficulty was that Nj
Peterson insisted on Paul Neuman
o and would not listen to anything els'
n Minister Macfarlane-What state
er ment did you make about comprt
mise Cabinets?
10 Noble ThurstOn did not remembe
e at the moment having made any pal
n ticular statement, except the gener;
ar one that such Cabinets were not Yer
strong.
Is Minister Macfarlane said the fir
statement made by the Noble frOI
IS Maui was, That he was opposed to
compromise Cabinet because it coul
Is | not work.
Noble Thurston said as he remen
n, bered the question of a compromis