San Antonio daily light. [volume] (San Antonio, Tex.) 1886-1907, 1892-12-23
ON ITS LAST LEGS.
THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN
VEsTIGaTION MAY CON-
CLUDE TODAY.
Callaghan ana Kramer TaIk-Judge
Noonan Refuses TO Allow
the Use of the Grand
Jury Papers.

10urnment. The hrSt person who had the
pleasure of taking the stand was Judge
Callaghan, who, on being asked to give a
statement as to the work performed by
his committee, said that the committee
had just started and that he knew
nothing about the affair. B. F..
Jones, OF the same committee
was called and he didn't know anything
either. Commissioner Jonas was trans
ferred to the witness box and proved like
wise ignorant. Major Green said he want
ed the testimony of Mr.. Kramer, as that
gentleman had made an Investigation.
He was told that Mr.. Kramer was at
home sick, well, we will go to his house
then and take his testimony" said the
Major. His testimony Is absolutely nec-
sessary, and we want it," Major Green
said he wanted the foreman of the late
grand jury subp9naed, and as the testi.
mony before the grand jury wasin writing,
he would also like To have that. las there
is no indictment thought against any one;
| Gun't think Judge NoOnan would OBJ
ject to letting the commissioners have
the papers; thi nix he would like to see
the matter sifted to the bottom" said the
Major. The clerk was accordingly Or
dered to confer with Judge Noonan con-
corning the possession of those papers.
j. ID. Newcomer. foreman for the archi-
tect, was sworn and said that so far as he
knew the work was carried out according
to plans and specifications. He did some
figuring to show where the architect came
in for his share.
Henry Hunt was the next subject. He
was concrete man, and made about the
same statement that have been given in
by the columns for the past week.
James Quinn came In for his share OF
notoriety, by being a witness in the inves-
tigation. He is stone mason but is also
we'll yerSed In concrete work. He said
hat hnra hn Oh 81 fool
of finished work from eight cubic feet of
cement, sand and rock. He said, 1.-THE
larger the stone the smaller the crevice
to be filled 20
A. c. Knight, brickmason. stated that
the brickwork on the new county court
house was out of sight.
Commissioner Jonas said in answer TO
Major Green that he had been on the
original committee about two days. Mr.
Scott is the only witness we examined"
said the commissioner.
The court of investigation adjourned
until this morning at 10 o'clock.
MORNING SESSION.
This morning the court was called to
order at l0:40 o'clock and Mr.. James FL.
French was sworn and said: was the
foreman of the grand jury" Maj. Green
said he did not want TO ask him what
transptred in the grand jury room but he
did want to know il he knew of any
witness that might give some lieht
on the subject. Mr.. French replied
that Mr. Fred Dingle knew a good dea
about it, but he was sick when summoned
by the grand jury. The clerk was or
dered to subpoena Mr.. Dtngle. Mr.
French said he did not know any thing
about the matter and was discharged.
Mr.. Marshall was recalled and said:
Every contractor measures his concrete
ingre tents in a certain sized bucket
which holds a cubic foot. | saw some OF
the rock and found il very small rock |
think there will be an increase of seven
Der cent in bulk. ! consider twenty per
cent decrease for ShrinKagc in the rock
Maj Green stated that the sheriff
ported that Judge Noonan ruled that the
papers should not leave the court and b.
turned over TO the comm iSSiOner'S court
Court adjourned then to Otto Kramer'S
residence, on Adams street, where Mr..
Kramer was found sitting up and slightly
improved.
After Mr.. Kramer was sworn Major
Green said: Mr. Kramer. we came down
here to get whatever information you may
have regarding this courthouse matter"
Mr.. Kramer's testimony was as fol-
lows: 1--WE commenced at the digging of
the trenches and was stopped, | eXamin-
ed the granite and found the outside all
right. | examined the inside also, and find
the joints too wide. | did not open any
OF the joints. The joints are specified as
three-eights. | cant tell you whether or
not it is bedded. Mr.. Dugan informed me
that he was most through with that wNrR
and he would smooth it afterward. You
can hammerface the work without
injury to IL. 1t would be of more expense
afterward. | have not much experience
in setting granite. | can give you my
opinion. | did figure out the expense of
cutting, setting, etc, Of five course rock.
| can't give Won the prices of cutting
granite. They have the prices taken
from an association away from here. |
never was in a granite quarry, but
don't believe 1t is In layers. In building
the city hall | specified rubble work and
Braden put in through rock, saying il was
just as cheap to him. ltcOStS more to quar-
~ through work. Through rock would be
little more expensive than rubbe work.
don't know anything about the slate.
! think the concrete is all right.
| am acquainted with concrete work.
The cement will weigh between eighty
and ninety pounds. never made any eX-
perimentS with concrete. That is chiefly
for the contractor, not for the engineer.
| always use 2-inch rock | don't know if
larger rock would take in more cement.
| think the three courses would be cheap
or than the five courses. We had no wit
ness before us but Walter Scott He said
that some of the trenches were deeper
than others. | asked him how he made
his calculations and he said by the amount
Of material used. We had no other meet
ings when Mr.. Jonas was present. The
prices of architectural work are regulated
by the American Association of Archi-
tectS. Mr. Teich was i'm my Office but
said not to ask hime to come. He did help
me measure the granite"
Court then adjourned until o'clock
this afternoon.