The times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1890-1903, 1892-10-18
A LIVELY DISCUSSION
IN TEE rRrENSIAL CONTENTION.
Christian Unity and Changes in tho Consti.
tuition OF tho Church Produce 1t.
Other Important Matters.

exercises opening the eleventh days seS-
sion Of The Protestant Episcopal Conven-
tion. The House Of Deputies then set to
work to get out Of the parliamentary
tangie it had fctten itself inte just before
adjourning on Saturday.
After the reading of tho minutes the
reports Of the standing committees were
called for. and when tho eomm.ttee on
constitutional amendments was called 1t
presented report that created some
thing OF a sensation. 1t prefaced the re-
port with the statement that II Is always
a. r,Orarious thing 10 employ the re-
ductio ad absurdunsin argument but this
committee IS obliged TO do so by the
logic OF facts.
WANTS TO pE DIscHARoEp.
DR.. Huntingdon then read report ask
Ing that the committee be allowed 10 re-
turn 10 the House the resolution OF Mr.
Nash. Of New York, amending article O,
with respect to the trial OF clergymen;
the resolutions OF the last convention 10
amend articles 5 and 9. and other matters
involving grave consideration, and re-
ouestcd that the committee be discharged
from considering all resolutions amending
the constitution, as under recent action
Of the House Ohe adoption Of the Burg
win resolution of Saturday, all such re-
ports from this committee ore referred
TO n Joint COMMITTEES, and that the COM
mittee be discharged from further service
during the remainder Of the session.
Several delegates asked IL the resolu-
tions could not be voted upon separately,
as they desired to defeat the last resolu-
ton on the ground, as expressed by Rev.
1 hq
unwise 10 discharge the committee
Air. Biddle. Of Pennsylvania said that
~ the resolutions were adopted it would
confirm the painful impression that the
House had treated the committee with
disrespect. The resolution Of Saturday
had been. perhaps. adopted hastily, but
10 intention had existed 10 siur or slight
the committee or its distinguished MEM
bers.
PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
Mr.. Burgwin rose TO a question Of priv
Noge He referred to his long service in
the House. and said this was the first
time his motives had been called in ques-
ton. Therefore he asked to be allowed
20 make a personal explanation. He said
he was surprised when the resolution was
made for the Joint commission TO take
charge of canOns and amendments TO the
constitution. but he supported II as II
seemed a good movement, though one that
had been defeated at every convention
since that Of 1877. 1t was not aimed at
any particular act Of proposed legislation,
nor did the speaker, as had been charged,
take advantage Of Rev. DR.. Huntingdon s
absence He had never introduced polit-
teal or professional tactics into the House,
and though pertinacious In support OF
measures he regarded as important, he
n-ver resorted TO underhand methods.
Rev. DR.. Huntingdon desired to with
draw any remarks he had made on Sat
urday which initiated against the posi-
ton just assumed by the deputy from
Pittsburg
Mr. Burgwin moved rsconsidera tion
OF the action by which his resolution hau
been passed on Saturday, which was
done. and the resolution laid on the table
Rev Dr. Huntingdon then asked leave
20 withdraw his report. This was grant
ed. as was also his request to have the
report returned 20 his committee.
A resolution was then adopted to refer
the proposed amendment Of the session
Of 1889 and all others which may not
have been acted upon at the close Of this
session TO the joint commission
NEXT PLACE OF MEETING.
The Joint committee to select the place
for holding the convention of 1880 To-
ported that 1t had fixed on Saratoga, n,
Y. Objection was made by several depu-
ties TO a presentation of Saratoga S
claims, and the report was placed on the
calendar.
REPoRT on THE HYMNAb.
After the reading OF a number of mes
sages from the House of Bishops the
special order of the day, the report of
the commission on the hyInnal was taken
up.
The Rev. DR.. Henry Nelson, Of Western
New York. presented a voluminous re-
port He pleaded that the action Of the
committee be ratified by the House
without going into committee Of the
whole.
Or. Nelson presented a resolution that
the present hymnal be used until the
next general convention in addition TO the
revised one. The hymns omitted by the
commission are Nos. 3, %, 80, 45, lO2, lOi
129. 1A, l43, l62. 165, 1S2, 1877. 1893. 2O9, 30
2ll, PIP, 2l6, 45S, 45S. $50, 4S3, 49S. 500, sos
BIC, 522, 553, SIS. $50, $50, GIG, 632. 6S5, 6'2
Those restored from the present hymna
are Nos 2l, g. 26. g. 4S, so, So, 66, n, SO, ~
lOl ll5, l2S 143. 1f7, 163 1872, 1876, l9l, 2l9 Z2f
2s9. PSI, 200, 300 1884, 347, 359, S72. 403, iO5
4OS. 46O 467, All. 400. 5OS. 5l9. The repor
concludes and the only other changes
which the commission has made are II
hymn 81, verses and 5, and hymn l95
verse 2, line /, so that 1t shall read al
ia the report Of 1889: "All the world II
Gods own feld" Although some yer!
desirable new hymns have come into tn
hands of the commission, and others from
existing hymnals had been asked for b.
several of the delegations ii did not seen
lust 70 the convention 10 ask its consider
-, ~ envthine which had not alread
been before IL.
The report gave rise to a protracte'
debate. some claiming that they had no
been given an opportunity 10 eXamin
the proposed changes carefully Whh
others wanted debate in committee 0
the whole.
MESSAGE FOR THE BISHOPS.
v,hue the discussion was at its heigh
Secretary Tatlock appeared iIom u.
House Of Bishops with message NO. Al
rrhis message stated that the uppe
house had passed a resolution adoptin|
the report of the joint commission OF
the hymnal, with these changes Omi
HYMNS 80. part 2 20S and 652; restor
hymns 2iS. $685. 3lS, 504; TO add doxolog!
10 hymn 1876, and to prefix the hrst Vers
Of hymn $40 to hymn $50.
These changes were greeted with crie
Of Good" one OF the hymns restored
being the old favorite, How Firm
Foundation"
hymnal Is not yet perfect. The bishops
had made changes In the report, an(
others should be made, and would be
n the House took time for considera
tion.
Motions and resolutions were made II
fnextrica ble confusion.