The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1892-11-23

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Interests were too strong, and they
were in this House working against
this bill, because it was opposed To
their interests. II this bill passes, he /
would be ready next session TO make
further advance. You could not re-
form the world at once, LIQUOR
drinking could not be stopped. Sew
enty-three convictions out of a mil
/ lion offences! What was that? Under
| the present law you could not get a
! conviction without proving a sale
/ which was almost impossible But
/ under this law mere possession OF
! half bottle, would be sufficient to
| bring fine of 500. The risk would
/ be too great. People would not dare
/ to take it.
Rep. Bipikane opposed the bill. He
/ had begun with beer. Then he took
| gin, which Knocked him into a well.
| When he was hauled out he sat down
| on the well curb, and thought the
| matter over. The result was that he
! swore off, and he had been swearing
off ever since. When he came down
from KOhala, an innocent young
! man, he began smoking tobacco. He
began with weak Chinese tobacco,
and worked up to the stronger, but
finally he got some that was too
| strong, since which time he had
| sworn off. His case would be like
many others if this bill passed.
Young men who don't think of drink
ing now, would begin with wine and
| beer and go on to something stronger.
Rep. Kapahu wanted to know how
many members of the House there
were who didn't drink little beer
and wine occasionally. On COM
muniOn Sundays they drank little
wine. If the opponents of this bill
really wanted temperance, why didn't
they stop the illicit traffic going on
now. If he chose he could give a
long temperance lecture himself. He
would move the previous question.
Lost.
Noble ThurstOn thought the subject
was one on which neither side could
afford to be dogmatic. He was not
convinced by the arguments in favor
of the bill. Since the Gothenburg
system had been brought to his no.
tice, he was impressed with the fact
that it would be a better solution of
the problem. He favored the idea of
the motion of the member from 1LOO-
laupOko, and would put it in this
shape. Be it resolved, that n COM
mission of five persons shall be APP
pointed by the President to whom
bill No. 65A shall be and hereby is re-
ferred; with instructions to thor
oughly investigate the subject of the
sale of wine, beer and spirits, with Il
view to mitigate the evils of the traf-
. fic therein, and more particularly
to investigate the working of the
. so-called 'Gothenburg" system and
the Norwegian SYSTEM" and re-
20 I on,iClatnrn of 1901
, whether either of such systems is
, suitable for adoption in Hawaii; and,
if so, and in any event, to prepare and
present to such Legislature bill or
, bills carrying out the system recon-
, mended by such commission.
Rep. KaunamanO said no one could
, tell him anything about liquor; he
r knew all about it. Liquor was not
bad in itself. In a bottle, it was per
fectly harmless. 1t was when people
came to drink it that the mischief
, came in. 1t was nonsense to say this
: bill would destroy the natives. They
, were being destroyed already. They
were all drinking.
, Rep. r. w. Wilcox favored the bill
. 1t was temperance measure-a steT
in the right direction. In France anC
r Italy there was wine on the table
every day. In Germany, nursing
, children drank beer. The people were
! rosy-cheeked and hearty; the beer
f and wine did them good. He WoulC
. move the previous question. With
' drawn.
, Noble Baldwin supported the resO
luton of Noble ThurstOn. The House
, should be slow about adopting an!
. legislation of the kind. 1t was i'm
, pOrtant to be careful. Let the matte
be referred to q commission for q care
o. full investigation.
. Rep. Ashford thought some of TIN
!, arguments advanced were ObviOusl.
4 fallacious. 1t was not the gin which
q troubled the member who fell int
\ the we'll it was the water, and
a should be n fearful warning to hin
- not to mix so much water with hi
gin.
: Noble Young said the water wa
IA his safety. If it hadn't been for tn
i water, he would have broken hi
10 neck.
*, ~, Rep. Ashford said Calls we'll tina
n, ends well,' and as this ended in
- | well, it was all right. He wa
al theoretically in favor of prohibition
"a and had been practically in favor {
~ it until experience taught him bettel
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"a able. He was opposed to delay, an
Id favored the passing of the bill.
10 Noble Marsden moved the preViot
cd question. Carried.
as The bill was indefinitely postpone
id upon the following division:
Nv Ayes: Minister Jones; Mobiles Pu
er Kauhane, ]. NJ. HOrner, Hind, Ho
ht pill, Young, Baldwin, w. y. Horne
ge Anderson, ThurstOn; Reps. Wilde
Bipikane, J. +. Bush, \. Horne
mo- Nahinu, White, Kanealii, Edmond
,iS Kaluna, Iosepa, Akina, Smith, a.
NV Wilcox, Kauhi-25.
in Noes: Ministers Robinson, Brow
II Mobiles Berger, Ena, Hopkins, Cur
ne minis, Williams, Male, Marsde
no. Walbridge, Dreier; Reps. Ashton
on Aki, s. X. Pua, r. w. Wilcox, ka
In namano, Kamauoha, Waipuilani, X
SO pahu-19.
m Absent: Minister Wilcox; NObl
Peterson, Kanoa; Rep. KoahOu.
At 3:4S PM. the House adjourned.