Delaware gazette and state journal. (Wilmington, Del.) 1883-1902, 1891-12-10

but the circumstances under which he
made the statement.
The court sustained Mr.. Hilles objec-
ton.
Mr.. Wilkinson was then asked when he
first met James Moore.
81 object" said Mr.. Hilles, promptly
1--WE are not trying James Moore and
however much he may need bolstering up,
! respectfully submit that it is not the
province of the State to try to bolster him
mp 1T this time"
MIR, Hilles insisted that all testimony
/ about the relations between the witness
and James Moore was irrelevant.
The court allowed Mr.. Biggs to put the
question in this shape:
when did pou first meet James Moorep"
Mr.. Wilkinson said he first met Moore
ON Friday, October I'D, close to his home
on the Brandywinc, and met him at the
same place the next day, at Moore's re-
quest. He then had Moore go with to the
Clayton House.
"Did he there make certain statements
to you?"
HE did"
How long after this did he testify
before the squireT'
Three or four days"
why did he go to New York after
testifying?'
you directed me TO send him there as
he demanded protection from the people
he had testified against, by whom he said
he was threatened"
Mr.. Bggs then mentioned the names of
all the States witnesses, and asked Mr..
Wilkinson If his agency had anything to
do with any of them except James Moore
Again Mr.. Hilles objected. He claimed
that it was an attempt on the part of the
State to bolster up testimony that had not
yet been attacked.
The court also held that this testimony
would be irrelevant and Mr.. Biggs de-
sisted.
ANOTHER IRON BRIDGE DISCUSSION.
John Ramsay said he has been &C.
| quainted with William j. Gibbons for
| nine years and knows HIM intimately. In
| answer to Mr.. Biggs he said he once heard
Gibbons making threats of what he would
do If the du Points discharged him.
Had he been discharged then ?"
mot at that time"
"Were there reports that he would be
discharged ?"
Eyes, there were reports that he and
James Moore were to be laid off for drunk
| enness."
What did he say?"
He said, If Frank du Pont discharges
me I'll blow up every DID mill i'll Hag-
ley"
NOT VERY STRONG MEMORY.
On cross-examination the witness said
he could not remember the time of this
conversation. He did not even remembe
| whether it was before he was married or
| later.
When were you married?
| Five years ago the 10Th of January
| Ramsey said he never mentioned this
circumstance to anyone until he told it to
the Encouragement, last Friday. But
although he did not remember the time he
/ remembered the words. He told Mr. Biggs
that it was before the death of Gen Henry
| du Pont.
| HEARD GIBBONS MAKE THREATS.
Joseph Knox was sworn with his left
hand on the book, as his right arm is gone.
He is a Waterman for the du Pont Com
pany, and watched the barns particularly
after the burning of the Fleming barn.
He knows William j. Gibbons, and re-
membered seeing him the day of the ex-
ploson in October, 1890
did you, on that occasion, hear him
say anything about the du Ponts?"
II did,
"What did he say?"
HE was with several other men and
something was said about the du Points,
when. Gibbons said, They ought to have
been in it,"
ibid you hear him make any statement
about Francis G. du Pont personally 2"
"Yes. heard him, when standing in
front of Sterling's store, say, Frank
du Pont ought to be in hell Jimmy
Moore was with him at the time"
DEsERTER, BUT PENsIoNER.
Are you a pcnsioner?" was Mr.. Hilles
first question.
al am"
Are you not dcserter from the Twenty
third Pennsylvania
II am" with positive emphasis, "but
enlisted again in the Sixth Pennsylvania, !"
What name do you draw your pension
under?''
Two names, Joseph Knox and Joseph
Simpson"
Mr. Knox here went down into his
pocket. "Pve got the certificates here, if
you want to see Them" he said.
THE DISCRETION EXPLAINED.
In answer to Mr.. Biggs' question the
witness explained his desertion. He first
enlisted for three months in the Twenty
third Pennsylvania Infantry and re-
enlisted for three years. At the end of
three months he took French leave and
then enlisted in the Sixth Pennsylvania
Cavalry, under the name of Joseph
Simpson. The reason for this action was
that he did not like the infantry and did
like the cavalry. He served through the
he applied for pension, by legal advice he
used both his army names. He gets q
pension of 50 per month.
MORE LuRIp THREATS.
Robert Scott, who formerly worked for
the du Pont company, but is now en-
ployed in New York wholesale grocery.
testified that Gibbons once said to him,
talking about the du Points after his dis
charge, "D-n their souls, they had no
right to discharge me-" Subsequently,
while he and Gibbons were walking along,
near Squirrel run. he heard Gibbons
declare he would Paint the Brandywine
red"
Scott could not remember the time these
remarks were made. He said Mr. Charles
|. du Pont went to New York and asked
him to come back and testify.
THEY OUGHT TO BE BURNED OUT"
Thomas j. Lawless proprietor of the
Mt. Pleasant Hotel, said that he OIL, heard
Gibbons, in talking about the du Points,
declare that they ought to be burned out"
He did not remember when this was, but
said that the remarks were made in his
bar-room and that a man named John
Kane was present.
HoRRID THREATS OF VENGEANCE.
There was buzz of expectancy when
Thomas W. Lynch was called. He is the
detective who engaged with Edward Clark
in conducting the Columbus Inn as a
means of getting out the barn burning
conspiracies. They opened bu iness, he
said, on September list, 1891, and on that
day Gibbons visited the place.
On September I'd he heard Gibbons, in
conversation with Edward. Clark, at the
Columbus Inn. Clark said, The next
time there's fire Chicken Alley will co.
Gibbons replied, Eyes, that's right, it will
60" Chicken Alley" is on the du Pont
property.
The next conversation detailed by Detec-
tive Lynch occurred on September l4th at
the hotel, between Joseph Clark, Gibbons
| and the with naq and ran this