St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1891-03-05
Who Offered Estes


representative in 1889, was the member
who had been approached. lie had
such unique experience with the
boudlerS that his story of it is worth re-
producing. Here it Isl
=, z. Did he offer you money, or simply say
there was money to be made?
, A; he said there was money to be made,
asked MN, How much are You paying?''
lie sad; They are talking about 500. Said
|, oh, hell, that is too cheap He said,
What do You want:' Said /, "A thousand
dollars is a cheap man now" Well" he
give me part of it!" During the conversa-
ton he said. Il can introduce you to Il man
that Will pay you the money. and wanted 10
know if
Would Take $1,000
and stand by Mr.. Washburn clear through. I
house, if he didn't get it i'll the caucus.
Yes" he said. clear through | said
No / would not under anv circumstances,
and we had conversation at different times.
Perhaps four or five different times.
@ This is the first time, that you are reiat
ing now:
a. Yes, sir. but since that we have had
conversation four or five times.
z. Before the senatorial caucus?
A. Yes, sir.
q. What was that mans name?
A. Fred L. Warner.
Q. Have you stated, Mr.. Shoemaker all
that you think would be material as TO this
first interview? We want to senarate them
and make them as distinct as possible.
A. When ne left me that day, at the first
interview, he says: Now, you won't make
dedi-you won't tie yourself to any one else
He says: Don't tie yourself to any one nm
will not
Wanted TO Divide.
Fred Warner, who is well known
nf DaI,
his pursuit of Mr.. Shoemaker according
to the Iatter's story. He had followed
hum right along and agreed to get 81 800
for him provided he would vote for MIR.
Washburn if he would divide the
money. Mr.. Sheen aker said he was a
Sabln man and refused TO accept any
money from Warner. lie wasn't certain
that Gen. Washburn was behind it, but
it looked that way.
Hon. j. NJ. Underwood, of Minneapo-
lis, thought there was deal on 10
plumber the Red Lake Indian reserva-
ton. He had been offered certain
percentage of the Red lake pine land if
1t went through. l his would amount to
$1,000. A meeting was to be arranged at
the house of L. b. Walker, in Minneap-
oils, where he would receive the money.
BY this deal Buchanan was to be made
surveyor general, and as such he was to
survey the Indian reservation and have
the timber sold on his valuation. He
had been told that Mr.. ComStOck was
In the Deal
by the man who approached him. Hon.
ID. f. Morgan, then representing Free
born county, was examined. He had
been one of Gen. Washburn'S managers,
but had never heard of Mr.. Thompson.
and did not know of a dollar being spent
Tor corruption. He had not been on the
managing committee very long.
Hon. Z. ii. Davis, of Renv!lle cOanty,
narrated an interesting tale of attempt
ed bribery to the committee. He did
not KNOW the man. His story follows:
man approached me as Mr.. Johnson.
He asked me if my name was Davis 1t was
The Thursday OF the cancus. He said his
name was Johnson, and he asked me if
was member of the house. | told him
was. lie asked me how | stood on the sena-
torial question. and | said | was Donnelly
man. lie then said: No use footing your
Time away voting for Denneily He doesn't
stand any SNOW. | told him we could tell
better after the ballot. He said Il have
been in good many lobbies and this legis-
lativc body is the most
Banned Corrupt
purchasabe body ever had ANYTHING 10 do
with. l said, You are paying a very high
mean you: meant the rest of them" He
says Lets go into the WINE room and buy Il
bottle of wine We went in there and
called for a bottle OF wine. ana paid for it.
lie said, hold on, let me pay for it / said,
Il can pay for it myself. He said Lets
have another then" SO we gos two bottles
and each paid for one. lie said he
was not representing Mr.. Washbuln,
but 1t was some one personally inter
ested in him who was offering his own
money. That Mr. Washburn had nothing to
do with him, but that ii was worth that much
fholdlng up two fingersl for me TO go into
the caucus in support of Mr.. Washburn. /
told him that was pretty high figures, What
did it mean? He said high stakes were Ie-
ing paid told him | could not entertain
his proposition. He said Il will acknowledge
have been barking up the wrong tree ]
never saw the man before nor since.
Denied Point Blank.
Fred l.. Warner, who had he en- ac-
cnsed of approaching Mr.. Shoe maker
by the latter gentleman himself, was
examined, and denied the money part
of the gentleman's story. He had talked
to him. TO be sure, but only to tell MIN
there was no Sdbin sentiment in North
ern Minnesota. He was authorized by
no one 10 make any offers.
j. w. Ham, the St Paul real estate
man, who mas since flown TO Salt Lake
City, was called. He had told Hon. II.
l.. Williams that il was his impression
that there was 500 in it TO vote for Gen.
WaSnburn. He had been given to nm
derstand this by II. q. Stone, who had
pad him $50 for work. He was not to
purchase or influence votes. He then
made the astounding statement that Mr..
Sahln had offered him $1,000 to give
certain evidence. 500 cash and
thirty OF sixty day hotc for the balance.
He had refused
II. &. Stone was called. He had
given Ham fifty dollars and spent
twenty-five dollars more. He was act
1t was
His Own Money.
He had no understanding with Gen.
He knew nothing of an
attempt being made to oribe Mr.. Will
Jams. The latter. who represented the
Third ward of st. Paul, said he had
been told by Ham that there was $500
in it if he voted for Washburn.
Hon. A. 5. CroSSfieid, of Traverse
county, said to the committee that he
had been offered $500 to vote for Mr..
Sabn, through Hon. ID. J. Knox, of
Aitkin. He had declined and had heard
Mr.. Washburn say he would not accept
if he bad to buy single vote. Senator
Clough knew neither Warner, Thomp-
son, Stone nor any OF the:others. He
was chairman of Senator Washburn's
committee. but no money had been
used. as Gen. " ashburn did not want
an election if it came that way.
Hon. Ii. w. Lightly, another of
Mower c0unty's representatives
Had Been Approached.
so he testified. \ man laid roll of
money i'll Il chair for him, ana said it
was from Mr.. Thompson personally.
and not from any candidates.
Hon. b. N. Low. of Murray county.
had heard nothing bat rumorS; no one
had offered him money.
Clarence y. Warren. of Mower county.
Knew Mr.; HoppIn. lie had done SOME