The morning call., 1891-10-14
The council then proceeded to the order
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The council then proceeded to the order
of the day, the subject. THE Church and
Agencies" being the same as that discussed
yesterday.
Rev. J. Travis, General Missionary Secre-
tary of the Primitive Methodist Church,
England, read paper on the place and
power of law agencies in the church. He
said the Methodist denominations have
agreed that the laty should have place, but
they were far from being agreed as to the
extent, and here is the supreme difficulty to
an organic Methodist union. He pleaded
for systematic training Of lay preachers.
Bishop Ninde of Kansas delivered an adj
dress on "The DeaconeSs Movement" This
movement had, he said, surpas led the ex-
pectations of its most sanguina friends. 1t
had been urged by some that the movement
interfered with the proper sphere of
women. Who was to define wOman's
sphere? We find her to-day behind the
counter in the shop and factory, and in the
Office. There was too much talk of woman
unseXing herself and plunging society into
commissions. There were silly men and
silly women. A representative woman could
be trusted. If we could not trust our
mothers and sisters, in Gods name whom
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trusted, and Gods work could never be
consummated without their aid.
Rev. DR.. Walters of London hoped that at
the next council woman would be permitted
to take her place upon the platform and ad-
dress the conference. 1t was fifteen years
since the establishment of the sis terhood in
England in connection with the Children 5
Home, and as a member of the committee
he could bear witness to the grand success
OF the movement.
Rev Dr. Appleget of New Jersey spoke
of tine agency of lay-wOrkers in the church.
The great question of cooperation rests
with them.
Rev. Thomas Lawrence OF England feared
that the Methodist Church was not raising
the number of local preachers 1t should.
There should be open-air meetings, and the
church should not lower its flag to the
Salvation Army or any other agency.
Rev. DR.. A. Il. Leonard OF New Ork said
the need of honest work on the part of the
laity was great indeed, and he was thor
oughly convinced that the masses OF the
people could never be reached except
through their efforts. Every member of
the church must come to consider himself an
evangelist 10 save souls.
woMAN's WORK.
Rev. Dr. Fry, editor OF the Central Chris
tian Advocate, read an interesting paper on
the subject of "Woman's Work in the
Church" In Christian lands there were
thousands of persons who had no knowl-
edge of Christ. A hundred should enter
the work where now one was engaged, and
woman must take prominent part i'll 1t.
The church could not do the work before it
without the aid of women. The way to
determine the proper sphere of woman s
work in the church was by the same rule
that applied to men-individual fitness for
their duties.
Rev. William German OF the Irish Metho-
diet tihurph Of RPlfaSt ma1n 81 strong nlp a
for women in connection with every phase
OF church work.
Professor j. P. Lanvis of the United
Brethren in Christ of Dayton, Ohio, and
Rev. Thomas Hunt of England spoke in the
same str ain. Rev. DR.. Lewis of the NJ. +.
Church South said it was a fallacy to be-
lieve that because large majority of the
people were hungering after thing, it
was a manifestation of the divine wish.
God created them male and female, said
he, mot female and male. Woman was
expected under Divine Providence 10 sus-
tain the same relation to the masculine
church that she did to the family; not one
OF subordination, but OF equality i'll certain
lines"
Rev. Dr. Buckley of New York said
"Women could notdo the work of preachers
without collision with tile laws of nature.
They must be mothers or they must be
preachers, not both, st. Paul had said they
should not take the place of men,"
Rev. DIR. Hass OF Tennessee also called at
tention to St Paul's words, and asserted II
God had intended man and woman to do the
same work he would have made them all Ike.
At this juncture Mr.. Atkinson, Member
OF Parliament, of England, proceeded to
characterize DR.. Hass' argument as logical
juggery, saying if man and woman were
created alike there would be no men OF
women. He also remarked that DR.. Buck
ley had gotten an awful twist on this ques'
tion.
Rev. DR.. Reid of the Japanese Mission
paid high tribute to the work Of the female