Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1891-05-22
BLAINE.s talk TO rAvA.
An Interesting Interview n Reported
the italian Minister.


An Interesting Interview n Reported by
the Italian Minister.
The New York Herald makes public today
some OF the inside history Of the diplomatic
controversy between Italy and the United
States growing out Of the lynching at New
Orleans as reported by Minister Fava TO his
government. The statements are taken from
q copy Of the italian green book containing the
documents submitted by Marquis di Rudini to
the Italian parliament on April so. The copy
OF the green book reached this country yester-
day, having been sent by Baron Fava from
Rome to his friend, Prof Alesandro Oldrini,
secretary Of the Italian home in New York.
The documents cover the period from the
lynching in the parish prison up to March q,
when Baron Fava left Washington for Rome.
Consul Corte's dispatch from New Orleans to
Rudini informing him Of the lynching appears
at the opening Of the book. Next comes a dis
patch from Fava to the Italian government
confirming the facts and asking that protest
be sent to the United States government Then
follow hudinis replies, one to Corte advising
him to apply to the local authorities for re-
dress and protection and the other TO Fava
instructing him to enter q formal protest.
Next follow several dispatches Of minor inn
=
port made by Baron Fava of q conversation
between him and Mr.. Blaine on March IS,
An INTERVIEW WITH NR. BLAINE
Blaine-1t is absolutely impossible for the
federal government to interfere with the ad-
ministration Of justice in single state. am
astonished that after your ten years residence
In TINS country you have not succeeded in i'm
pressing your government with this fact
tava-l have no reason TO reproach myself
and you know it Neither my government,
however, nor any other country will be con-
WINGED that your internal laws are an obstacle
in the way of Justice.
Blalne-Still, you informed your government
on former occasion that il was impossible for
the federal government to interfere with the
other states, and now MIR. Blaine was
excited.l
Fava-This is a different and a new case.
Blaine-You ask what is impossible. You
know that cannot change the Constitution.
fava-l do not ask for so much. Nv hope
was that the President and you would combine
with Gov. Nichols in bringing the culprits to
justice.
Blaine-No, no; the federal government can
not do that. There is my answer.
Fava-But, then, what is the use of the
treaties Italy has made with you? Why should
the king send legation to the federal govern
ment?
Blalne-That is your business.
fava-Such being the case. / am sorry to be
Obliged to tell you that the moment has come
for Italy to affirm the inutility Of its represen-
tative in Washington.
Baron Fava then produced Rudini's dispatch,
recalling him. Mr.. Blaine read it and then
said eagerly, 'All right, and We will recall our
from Rome"
Fava-No. Mr.. Blaine, let me hope even now
that my long mission to this country will not
end by leaving it on bad terms with Italy.
Blaine-But what can I do then?
Fava-Try and induce the Louisiana par
ties to bring the guilty persons to Justice.
Neither you nor can admit that the friendship
between the United States and Italy should de-
pend upon the self will Of governor
Blaine-I must speak to the President.
Fava-And usttelegraph to Rome.
Blaine-what shall say to the PRESIDENT
Fava-Everything,a and add that L am salts
he'd that no minister in Italy could maintain a
night on this point against public opinion and
parliament
Blaine-An right No, no; cable to Rome
until you receive my answer. / am going to
the President, and before dinner YOU will hear
from me- 1t is understood between us that the
Marquis Rudinis telegram is not to be commu-
myself.
There is inserted the following dispatch from
Rudini to Fava, March 26.
lsfill hope that the federal government will give
and that judicial proceedings will be instituted
against the culprits. II this assurance is not
given you are authorized to affirm the useless
ness OF your present near a government that
mas no power to guarantee such justice as with
us Is administered equally in favor Of citizens
Of all nationalities.
NOT RECEIVING ORDERS
The following is given as q dispatch from
Fava to Rudini, March "a:
As Mr.. Blaine did not communicate with me
on the 25th instant, according to promise
called on HIM yesterday. and he at once com
planned that L was hurrying him in a manner
entirely contrary to diplomatic usage.
Il do not recognize the right of anv pov-
eminent. he continued, Ito tell the United
States what it should do. We have never re-
will not begin now.
PLEASE inform Marquis di Rudini that the
FEDERAL government cannot give the assurances
winch ne requires and that it is a matter of
total indifference to me what persons in italy
may think Of our institutions. cannot change
them. still less violate them.
THE fact Is, Marquis di Rudini does not give
us sufficient time. You assure me that four
Italian subjects have been massacred, but
have my doubts on that point as am informed
that they were mixed up in come scandalous
electoral transactions. Still dom contest their
but while ask for time Won want
an official declaration on the spot. Well. 1 will
not do ANYTHING Of the kind and you may do as
you please"
while Mr.. Blaine was speaking" continues
Baron Fava. Il did not breathe, and when he
had finished told him that the Italian govern
ment did not intend to interfere with the in
ternal affairs Of the United States and that the
Marquis di Rudini did not intend to give auy
orders to the United States government. 1
also told him that the italian government did
not intend to discuss the Constitution of the
United States and ignored the existence Of the
state OF Louisiana in order that il might recog-
nize only the federal government, with which
the treaty had been negotiated"
TO this Mr.. Blaine replied:
But that treaty guarantees to italian sub
jects the same protection guaranteed to Ameri-
can citizens. Do You ask that your countrymen
shall have more protection than ours haye?'
Baron Fava's reply was that his government
was entitled to demand for Italians in America
the same protection - was guaranteed to
Americans In Italy.
In dispatch to his government on the 8lst
Baron Fava says that after further neeotia-
tons President Harrison refused TO make anv
though he admitted that the
guilty parties should be punished. He then
concludes by saying that he informed the
federal government Of his departure and that
the current affairs Of the italian legation would
be attended to by Marquis Imperial.
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