New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-04-08
STANLEY'S TOUR ENDED.
THE EXPLORER BACK IN NETWORK.
HE TALKS ABOUT THE TROUBLES OF HIS BLACK

ship for England on the 18th OF this month. lie
arrived in NewYorh yesterday morning on his special
car along with his wife, her mother. Mrs. Tenant
Major b. Pond his manager his courier. and saleh'
his Zanzibar boy. who has been during the trip the
subject Of several newspaper dispatches giving ac-
counts of his troubles in the South account OF MS
color Lieutenant A. Mountenay Jephson VINO ca'ii'
to the United States with Stanley, is In California put
will, 1t is expected, go home with the party on inc
City of New-Yorl
Mr.. Stanley told Tribune reporter Yesterday 'na'
the total number Of miles he had travelled IN al MS
exploration Of Africa was 25 900, and that ne hao
beaten that record by 1000 miles on MS iec'ur'
Journey
(Which do you find easier Mr.. Stanley, exploring or
lecturingl' asked the reporter.
"wen,' was the reply, Sin featuring you nave ,no
rest on the car In travel in Africa you nave oody
tatIgue or hunger The car was beautifully ftted-a
regular palace with cooks, stewards ana all or's
comforts, The attendants were polite, CIVIL ana
ohligne. I didn't think that you had men who knew
their duty to such perfection as the three oooreu men
on board that car. We had fortunate tr'P' t
Of the party was ILL., and hadn't to give up sihsio
date on account Of Sickness ~
"Was the tour financially success1ulf
awo,, vor nrst ask Major Pond about that We
nod crowded bouses and cordial reception every
where" - ,. ,roxor
But Il Is said that you had to leave your Iezan
engagements untitled on account Oh Pre'uu''' ''e''
against YOU -, .noo,os
aNo. Major Pond on arriving al Los AnseieS
heard that there was crevasse oio"A III s,su1
and ,re could not reach New-Orleans had we luiicu
,ho rexon ENGAGEMENTS in time to keep our engage
men+s +bora Then IL was for the Major TO say Wheth
bo would give ND the Texan places or New-oreahs
He decided that as New Orleans was larse o'y, wo
yould LET Texas 60. As 1t was we ohly ieS'0" ~,
Orleans twenty-four hours before the uhe ior '0
lecture, -, ,
"When you were in New-orieahS was UNIV ~
talk about the Italian AFFAIR.""
cob YES We were there two weeks aiter uie
trouhle All the people spoke TO heartily sup
ported the men who took the law into their own hahdS
and gave very good reasons, as iar as we were Gun,
cerned, as mere listeners to the story Ihey sa'u
sWhat could we dol Here were forV-seVeh ""u'''
I'm New-Orleans all traceable to the Mana, anu
elimination in the murder OF Hennessy. i~ uiai
began in October. We waited until the nlude Vi
March and found that after all the waiting justice was
not to be administered One sad n"o
the night before it took place that sohe'nis
was going to be done, and next morning rouo ~ '
buggy following the crowd and was present. ou''
of the walls Of the prison when the moo was "
And such mobl 1t seemed as II all New-orle''ns "0
OF one mind Yet II was done so quietly ana suouelS
that there were ladies walking in Canalst. near os
WHO knew nothing about It, talked myself 10 MISS
Lee daughter of General Robert e. Lee, who vas III
CanaI-st. at the time and utterly unaware OF "ha'
was going on" o.,
The renorter asked about Salch's unpleasant expert
ences. ,.,-oo
Major Pond gave Saleh complimentary thea're lioho"
He showed the ticket and walked by the man ae e"o
hoy who said .Herep The boy not understanding
him went on The usher read the ticket ana sho"eu
him place. 1t seems to have been the wrong place.
for another man cam along ana saiu' '"hd' "'o ~,
doing here and the boy was so much peSVcrcu .,"'
he got I'D and walked out AT Atlanta ne was si'''e
Tor another man came along and said what are you
sitting here for? What do you wantf we doht "an'
any black men here The boy said i Oeiohs "
arty stavine in the hotel Il don't care SAID INC
man. your name is not down on the DOCK lhei' my
courier GOT I'D and said that saeh belonged 10 parry
STAYING in the house. Then the clerk came oue ~
hurry and said TO the courier that IL he htehueu 70
defend black man he had better get out OF 'he iN'
TOO because his name was not down. Theh saien
~. ,on the car did not hear Of this until
eve minutes before going to lecture, ana then
tho matter was settled up. You see IL was a n.an
that the names were not registered In tne houei JUN
rv-bat are your plans for the future, Mr. Stanley J.
asked the reporter ~ aor INV re
AT don't know" said Mr.. Stanley I'm my ~
turn to England have lecture engagement 0i 'O0u'
six weeks to fill"
And after that"
81 don't know"
"Will you live in London1"
DWELL that is my wife's home"
"You will probably reach England about 'ne 'iiio
of fresh controversy over your eApeui'on
.Iwon't make any controversy"
Rut Casatps book is out, and / see tnat ne say
that Init for your meeting with Emin your expedi-
tion would probably have pershed-that your men
we're ragged and hungry, and broken down, anu IL
uond have gone badly with you If Emin had hot
relieved your wants" -,
Ct have not seen Casati's book, but think all the
;- eotf1
too MANY witnesses for against the other SIDE
stairs Nelson. Jephson, Bonny, Park and myself
We were ragged enough, it is true. We left our re-
serve baggage behind Everybody was allowed Only
three loads Park lost entire load by q deSerler'
in the march Of $40 miles to the Albert. Then at the
Arab settlements Stairs, Nelson and Jephson were
Obliged TO sell their clothes to the Arabs to obtain food
rhose assasslns these Arab slave-traders, had or
oanzed and had colonized a tract In the middle OF
the forest BY the time / came up to them, on ac-
count of their devastatOns Mn Stanley had losb lou
men, What was Mr.. SANKEY'S duty 2 IL Mr. stanley
had governmental authority to punish all crimes com
mitted by organized assassns in Central Africa lie
could have Just ordered battue of these people and
slain them ALL in which he could have got
abundance of food and saved clothes. Mr.
Stanley had such authority. IL was simply
n neaceful expedition strictly humanitarian, sent
ont TO assist another expedition in the interior OF
Africa who were crying out that unless
they got ammunition thcy "oulu NO ahnihii"'ou'
What we did was to make friends with those people.
When we found they overbearing and bullying
and our own people lost heart through their terrible
suderngs all we could do TO forbear and yield
submissyely to circumstances until we got beyond
them. 1t seemed as though written that some one
was 10 die Had known VIC could have answered
the ouestlon for ourselves as to who should die, we
certainly should have made strenuous effort to nve
Had we known that Emn was in the condition we
60, hin, In and that four or five months would not
have mattered very much to him, we could have
taken the law into our own hands, destroyed those
nirotos gone back at once and rescued the rear
rrniumn and saved BarttclOt, Jameson ana ail lne
solu", rbn died i'm the camp at Iambuya; and could
have arrived with the whole expedition intact al Se
H bad c,ied out for help and that the last words
lli IN nau Hurry up or you will be too late as In
The case of Gordon at Khartoum. -, -. .A,,, y, tto
baggaSe but simply OF carrying ammunition 10 Emil
PaeRa We arrived with thirty one eaSes VI to Weeks