New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-04-14
A TALK WITH PETER DE LACY.
suNDRY THREATS OF THE MAN WHO sToPPEr


RACING IN JERSEY
Anticipating the sentence of Fisher the p00lr0om
keepers held a meeting at the White Elephant on
Sunday to devise plan whereby they might
continue their nefarious business and still escape
punishment. II is understood that they were acuhg
under the legal advice of ex-surrogate Daniel q.
Rollins, Attorney and Congressman-elect
Jobn r Fellows william F. Howe and Abe H. Hummel.
Tribune reporter called on Peter De Lacy yester-
day afternoon 10 learn what action had been taken
at the meeting. Mr. De Lacy guarding the landing
of the stairway that leads to his Park Row den OF
iniauty. one of his employees was on watch at
the bottom and two acted sentnes outside of the
entrance All kept their eyes peeled for the
police who however, disturbed them not The man
who stopped racing in New-Jersey-except at Gutten-
burg-entertaned the reporter without moving from
his post The conversation lasted half an hour and
in that time forty entered the room to bet.
Some came out stood the steps to count their
money! All seemed to be regular customers. There
was no hesitation in the way they marched in and out
They had been there before For the most part they
seemed to been getting the worst of the great
game They were a rule seedy in appearance.
"what was done at the meetng!' Mr.. De Lacy was
asked
He hesitated to reply and the reporter encouraged
him thus:
at want you to understand that you to talk for
publication. l won't mislead you. What you say
am going TO publish"
ply with the law or rather not to violate the law"
But you are violating it now. see these fellows
running In and out. They are all here to bet"
"No they come to get US to send their money to the
track"
GAS matter Of fact. you don't do ~"
"Certainly we do How BY telegraph
"But you have no operator here? ~
"No My operator is at my Barclay-st place. We
receive money here up to fifteen minutes Of race
and then send II TO Darclayst and have the COM
missions telegraphed from there"
Have you operator at the traek?"
Certainly"
And do you mean to say that he actually places
the commission in the ring p
Objected TO- Objection sustained.
ave shall soon have things arranged" said Mr.
De Lacy evasvely, that one operator at the track
can handle the commissions for all the poOlrooms
Then we shall have books Of our own in the ring to
lay the odds"
There is talk of closing Guttenburg. What do you
think Of itp
Il think they'll do It, but not through the Grand
Jnry They must 90 about it in the same way as
they did in closing the concerthalls in Hoboken'
That would njure your business
"Td rather stop my business entirely than go on
with this fight"
"Why don't you7 Under the Ives Pool law you've
no right to keep this room for this purpose
"Well you know Pm a fighter Fve got to hit
back Men in my own business have tried to ruin
me, and am determined 10 hOu mS OWL u"hh
Pm right and when think that I'D stand up against
the 9TH REGIMENT So far as the Ives Pool law is
concerned not one has ever been tried under IT,
But you mark my words, if go down in this fight
the Ives Pool law goes with me-"
"You think it is unconstitutional"
Don't think it; know it, 1t hasn't leg u
stand on Two years ago Bourke Cochran read it over
and said to me: If ever you want TO prove the I'M
constitutonay of this law I'd like to take the CASE
Now | know what Pm talking about, and II tley
wbp me in this fight, goodby to the Ives Pool law
THEREBY you'd hurt yourself Ioud s'op racing
in this State" %.
aOt course would. I said I'd stop 1t in Jersey ana
1dd never should have started that crusade II they
hadn't had me arrested. Then i vowed 20 get even
Have T. or haven't ! l sOrter think nave.
haven't got any gudge against the C0ney Isau JOCKEY
club. They have acted very decently toward us"
"For Tammany's sake. OF course you arc so'u
Tammany manl'
81 don't bother with politics voted for Blaine
7 voted for Harrison. That doesn't look much Ike
Tammany does it? I'd vote for Daniel u. Rollins tut
District Attorney If He'd run"
aHe's a good Republican"
Eyes. and when he was DistrctAttorney before he
didn't bother boys at ALL"
Objected TO- objection sustained.
9Nos continued Mr. DE Lacy, "the Coney lsand
people have got enough to see that II tey co9e
I'D the pOolrooms, the pOolroomS VIII close tfm up
II amt politics that keeps them from helping 'io
saxton bill It's money. They are aiter money
They want to keep the Ives law on the statute Doors
so that they can race These Dryers haven't got any
sense II they don't let alone I'll have them plant
ing corn on their track at Gravesend. understand
there's going to be pretty good oat crop at Enaoeth
AZ Cor Iobn A Morris I'll turn his $2,0O0,OOO-tracK
into q cornfield too And I'll do worse for ilin' IN
see that not single Louisiana Lottery uehe' Is sou III
this city, I'll put end to that: rye ocen .irou an
,he nil ana know how to carry this fight. All
This tronbe comes from the greed Of the Jockey CLUBS
They make too much money. ia give S2oO'ooo lor
The four weeks racing at Elizabeth every year ana e
same for Linden see what those fellows nave lost Dy
fighting me-S4Oo, oooi" n,. ,.oo.
Suppose Monmouth should declae 10 rS'' ''h' '''''
would you interfere n :. q,
81 don't think I'd raise my hand against IT,
don't think Mr. Whers intended TO harm me last year
he got in bad hands. Then there Is the secretary