New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-07-03
rvpERT AGAINST EXPERT.
.rOr,voNY IN THE ~:FRENCHY'3 TRIAL.
.s rop THE DEFENCE CoNTRovERT
THE EVIDENCE OF DRs. FORMAL.

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~ Az the alleged slayer of Carrie Brown Is now
Do" .,e inrv and a most remarkable case Is Uus
go rs close. This morning htic cNlue"o0 Vi
- inheritance will be given, and theh the laWSoiN
U.s. 18th sides will sum up the case. Aiter INC o"a'eo
~ pocoricr Smyth the jurors Will be Gained upon 10
Asclde whether the prosecution mas laS'eieo VI" "'-'
S,e crime upon the Algerian .
Die - - asnects the case is one of transcendent
,-,..sst The testimony OF the men and women VINO
,ont the river front has not been extraordinary
= CIV sense but the evidence of the medlcai experts
= civen the trial the interest Of a romance lheSe
,.nt,s.s declare-one of them said he wonid STAKE
~ no on the correctness Of his conclusOns-that the
s,ood on the bedclOthing on which the woman was
murdered and that found on "Frenchy's' shrt anu
Asr his Hngernails, are the same in structure, ana
,ha, all Of il is mixed with fluid from the small IN
.,rae of a mammal This fluid was Identical IN
~ case and therefore these experts were convinced
,bot all the blood was from the same source
In reply 10 this the defence offered expert testimony
aonvinC the absolut ness of the conclusions OF DrS
rorrnad Flint and Edison, and declaring that no man
mould be deprived of his life on such evidence.
sFrDchy" himself took the witness stand Yesterday
and his Wild terror stricken demeanor and vehement
ssnals of guilt drew forth more or less pity Tor hm
The first witness of the day was James ~ hlland'
. NeW+own. L. L. constable who denied the story Of
tbre criminals that "Frenchy" had knife In the
opeens County Jail. Then the prisoner took the
stand and dramatic witness he made. When asked
n he had Killed Carrie Brown he burst into paroxysm
NJ denias lie stretched his hands a,Oft and called
IN Heaven TO witness that lie was innocent. Tears
rolled down his cheeks. and for minute he protested
In his French Arabic patos that be had not huTt the
roman Emil sultan was the Interpreter. When
Frederick B. House asked the prisoner II he had ever
owned the knife with which the woman had been cut
nm "Frenchy" again burst into torrent Of denials
and of adjurations 10 Allah When he had Queted
down again he said that his name was Aneer Ben
All and that he was born at Benz AiSha, between
Algers and Belda. He had served for eight years
In the French Army. and was wounded twice lie went
from Algiers to Para Brazil and thence came to the
United States. lie denied knowing Carrie Brown Out
admitted that lie had slept in the Fast River Hotel tho
night of the murder. lie also said that he did not
INA Alice sullivan, who had sworn that she was
with him the morning previous 10 the murder lie
prisoner was evidently in great terror, and at one
time Jumped 10 his feet and cried: viii not answer
l am going to be hanged. will not answer
Several Of the witnesses had testified that Frenchy
could speak little English, and Assistant District
Attorney Wellman tried TO get him to show little
knowledge Of the language. Fenchy' IS ei'hci
ignorant of English or an admirable actor, for Ae
esve not the slightest indication of understanding
word that was not uttered in Arabic
The defence then began its attack on tile testimony
Of the medical experts Of the prosecution by putting
Dr. Rush sMppen HuidekOper, Dean of the University
nt Pennsylvania on the stand. The witness said that
he had studied In Berlin, Vienna and Paris and had
practised medicine since 1877. lie had held l,5OO
sutOpsies Oh human bodies and 5000 on ANIMALS
He did not believe that Drs. Formal Flint and kdsoh
were justified in coming TO such an absolute conclusion
as they hal concerning the stains fond Oh "Fenchy
shirt. on the bedclothng which Carrie Brown
was living when she murdered, in the nall ana Oh
the door and wall paper of the East River Hotel
The blood on the floor had been walked on ana
the other blood had become mixed up with DUST ana
other foreign substances Or. Hnidekopcr did not
think that the conclusions of the Prosecutors experts
were based on absolutely Trustworthy data lie
believed that the blood stains had become mixed with
impurities and that perfectly accurate analysis was
impossible
The next witness was Dr. Paul Gibier Of the New
York Pasteur Institute who said that lie had studied
medicine in Paris and had made many chemical
analyses for the French Government. lie had
devoid much time to the microscopic study Of
human blood and did not believe that Drs
Formal Flint and Edison had been able, under the eX
listing circumstances, TO determine accurately and be
beyond doubt that the blood Frenchy's" shirt and
that on the bedclothes from the source.
recess was then taken until 80 p. m. When
Recorder smyu opened court again Dr. Justin Her
old, OF No 70 seventh-st, took the witness stand.
He said that he was connected with the It. Vincent
Mt. sinai and other hospitals. and conducted
taken part in 1000 autOpsieS. He had given much
time TO microscopy. He did not believe that any
venture that the substance found under "Frenchy's'
fngernails in part from the small intestineo
IL might have been from other parts Of the body I'M
der certain conditions.
rictAttorney Nicon crOss-examned the witness
TO give his assistant. Mr.. Wellman, little rest. Dr.
HerOd said that he had recently examined the ines
na fluids Of dog and knew the changes which fooo
undergOes in the process Of digestion He described
some of these changes in answer TO questions by Mr.
gicol
Henry A. Mott, ir, then added his testimony 10
that Of the previous witnesses for the defence. lie
gave his occupation that Of analytical chemist and
said that he was graduate OF the school Of Mines OF
Columbia College. lie member of the American
Chemical society," Of the New York Academy Of
Sciences fellow of the Chemical society Of London
and member Of various other learned bodies. He
had written five six works scientific subjects and
was the grandson Of the eminent DR.. Valentine Mott
Mr. Mott said that he had had considerable experience
with micrOscOpical work. lie did not believe that
any one was justified in swearing that two blood
stains If alike in quality, from the same source
lie did not believe that the tyrocene and other sub
stances found in the blood taken from the prisoner,
shirt stamped that blood containing fluid from the
small intestneS. The blood, he said, might have come
from another part Of the human body.
In reply to questions By Mr. Nicoll, the witness ad
mitted that he had never taken complete course n
the study OF medicine, aud could not say that he Wa
rested al this point
Mr.. Nicon then introduced some testimony in
buttal. First Dr. Austin Flint was recalled. lie had
heard nothing in the testimony of the experts Of The
defence to cause MIN 10 change MS opinion
pressed on tie witness stand. lie then went over his
Reasons fJr believing that the blood found on the shirt
was mixed with fluid from the small intestnes, repeat
Ing in the main his former evidence. lie admitted
that in certain abnormal conditions troccne might b.
found in paris of the body other than the small IN
teStnes
Other testimony offered by the defence was objected
70 BY Mr.. House not being in pbLttal. Recorder
emyth, however. allowed Mr.. Welman 10 ask "A qucs
uOn which he had forgotten 10 put IN the direct eX
smlnau H.. The Recorder SAID he would grant Ar.
House the privilege. but the lawyc, had not for
gotten TO ask any questions 50 he took exception
TO the ruling. Detectives Sergeant Crowley, being
recalled, said that il ok hour and ten minutes for
whole candle such is used in the East River
Hotel 10 burn ava. Frenchy" had taken A fresh
candle with him on going % his room the night OF
the murder and the next morning this candle had
been burned % vii an Onecghth Of an inch Of it,
socket. This established the fact that the prisoner
hour.
Detective Frnk was then recalled 70 testify 10 the
length OF Ameer Ben Ais fnger-nails when he scrapad
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