The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1891-07-25
TILLMAN AND TERRELL.
TREY MEET IN JOINT DEBATE AT
SPARTANBURG.

The Governor Comes Out Squarely
Against the sub-Tressury Billie
Argues That it is Class Legislation.
Considerable Time Devoted to
Answering Col, Polk.
SPARTANBURG, S. c., July 24.-The idol
Of the farmers is broken. The long looked
for debate took place to-day, and Gov.
Tillmar was downed. At the opening of
the debate it was agreed that Mr.. Terrell
should open, ard Gov. TillmaB reply. 1t
was further agreed that no applause or
either demonstration should be INDUCED in.
Consequently during the speech of Gov
Tillman all was quiet. The governors posi-
tion was squarely against the plan Of the
sub-treasury. He argued that it was class
legislation, paternalism and undemocratic,
and would fail to accomplish the object in
view.
ANSWERING COL POLK.
He devoted some time to the arguments
of Col. Polk yesterday. Especially touch
ing the question that the sub-treasury bill
is class legislation, he said: II am demo-
orat and want no relief for myself that
will not operate to benefta a majority of the
white people of this country" In repudi-
ating the idea of the farmers of South Car
olina wanting third party the governor
was eloquent. He urged the farmers to
look we'll before they take action which will
divide the white people.
MORE BANKS SUGGESTED.
Admitting the need for a flexible currency
the governor suggested more banks-state
banks that would issue currency based on
land as security.
Just more Mr.. Terrell interrupted with a
question as to where the hexibIlity came IN.
he replied that If the farmers were deter
mined TO have farp products as the
basis Of money, he preferred a
system of state suo.treasuries. He
advocated free coinage at some length. He
said it is a mistake some make in supposing
the government loans money to silver
miners OF owners Of bonds They deposit
the bullion or the bonds with the govern
ment and take a certificate in exchange be-
cause the certificate is more convenient to
| handle.
TERRELL AGAIN INTERRUPTS.
Here Col, Terrell again put In, "That is
exactly what we want the government to
do for the farmers. We don't ask it to
loan us money, but simply put our products
in available shape to pass as currency until
it is sold. 1t would be inconvenient to carry
around bale of cotton in your vest pocket
so we simply want the government to issue
a certificate that the bill is based on prod
ucts. and it will pass
This brought down the house, notwith-
| standing the resolution not TO applaud.
COL. TERRELL FOLLOWS.
After Gov. Tillman had spoken for an
hour and half Col Terrell began, and at
the governor interrupted the speaker, which
greatly exasperated the audience, but
| seemed to make but little impression on the
speaker. Col. Terrell closed by saving he
had heard that Col. Polk wanted to be Pres.
ident of the United States Said he: "FoI
my part believe he does, and / want tC
have him, and l am convinced he is on the
right road. We want our demands recog
nizad, and it is immaterial to us which
party gives the relief. The idea of thirC
party does not seem to be popular.
HOW THE FARMERS FEEL.
The NEWS correspondent talked with 6
number Of delegates who said the COVER
nor's talk on that line was unnecessary
The farmers of South Carolina will stand
together on the Ocala platform.
After the conclusion of the debate tht
! alliance held a business meeting, at whict
the resignation of Lecturer Talbort wa
presented and accepted. Mr.. Jeffries o.
| Union was elected to this position
| n AOSOiublOn was HA1OSO Au
| Ocala platform in toto. 1t was adopted
without dissenting voice.
THE OPPOSITION TO TEE GOVERNOR.
To give some idea Of the opposition Gov
| Tillman encountered at the outset in speak
ing before the state alliance, he asked. beforr
he began, all who were open to conviction
| on the question to raise their hands Si1
hands went up Notwithstanding this. uh
governor showed no disposition to reced
| from the position he has all the while 90
cupied. He made no concession, but failet
utterly to arouse his usual enthusiasm, ever
before the men who were wild for him
few days ago.
SEVERE SET BACK.
Since the debate he has been closely con
fined in his room in deep conversation will
J. .. NJ. Shaw, Capt. Smell, Joseph Ashley
and others. Even the stoutest friends O.
the governor admit his failure to produces
any impression. He looks worn and hag
gard, and his hackers are hacked. Ga,
delegate, au old man with grey hair, said b,
believed it all came from that "cussed" fire.,
pass, and that Gov. Tfliman could not looI
his constituents squarely in the face will
that pasteboard in his pocket. A choru
joined in the opinion that Gov. TillmaI
is sufficiently amused with th,
sub-treasury discussion. The en-
tire discussion was held will
closed doors. A reporter, found on tn
rear steps leading up to the stage Of tht
opera house, was summarily elected. TIVE
reporters who are members of the allianc
we're asked to retire from the meeting
They were unanimously elected upon theil
refusal. The Charleston World wa
handled roughly by the body for this seem
ingly unprofessional intrusion. 1t was frs
agreed to employ a stenographer to repor
the proceedings. but afterward it was re-
considered.
A resolution was passed making the &C
ceptance of certain beliefs test of member
ship in the alliance. This is presumably
hit at Gov. Tillman,
EXPRESS TRAINS COLLIDE.