New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-11-23

three years the other over dozen years and which hitch
nave come 10 an end win this result that we nave
been absolutely preserved from the disease.
POWERFUL SPEECH FROM THE GOVERNMENT
Mr. jules Roche Minister OF Commerce-Centlemen
What discussing-we must be sincere-is
question which the wished TO reserve, In
Its entirety, TO deal with ils own responsibility,
and which IL continues 10 reserve In It's entirety
The Government does noc ask you to cover 1t, In
any measure whatever, II il should repeal, withdraw
the decree which prohibited American meat from coming
France. IL IL docs after the vote which ASKS
Of you and when Is q vote purely On q1esioi vi
duty, Parliament call IL to account the day after
IL accomplished this acLon Ihe Government
does not SHRINK from the possibilities wnien pciohe
10 1T and II does not ask Of the Chambers 70 sn,re
them when IL tneir right to share them because
IL Is an act OF the executive power.
What is II thai the adveisares Of the bill have en-
teavOred 10 demonstrate TO you Ihat the mtiOducuoh
Of American mo France, II that should happen
which, once more, not the true subject OF me debate
would have for inevitable resu-this the expires
sion which has been used-the poisoning OF the Whole
country.
PRACTICAL PROOF AS no AMERICAN MEATS.
1t is very easy for 10 reply without entering into
q scientific discussion. II II Is true that Anief1
can meats are as dangerous is said, permit me to
observe that would perceive the effects OF them
would be known, IL woald be see wherever American
meal enter freely there would be of triehlnoss
there would be hundreds thousands them we should
this poisoning OF the nations win winch France Is
threatened.
Now there are in the world, and not very far away
from US, counties where lie American meats enter
freely, where they not stopped al tile lO lue eiei
by a custom-house taf,n, BY inspectors with micro
scopes or BIZ decree Of prohibition where they e'eI
as IeeIy as the Eiaicrai5 which are nosS iee Vi
duty with AIelicaI sailed hiea,s Yoine uus
these conditions into England aud Belgium they are
Consumed In large quantities, ana there Is hot case VI
Is the quantity of meat which goes into England,
gentlemen very snsllf The imporiations OF american
salted meat, they OF but little account neau
entered III 1870 54,719,OOO klogr@nRls OF ane,n ya
hams l46, 723 900 kilogrammes of bacon lo22ooVo
klogremmes OF salt porR, 62,OoO,Ooo hlosaliueS Vi
MIR. Fresneau-The half at least in transit. ~,
The Minster-In Belgium, where the INTRODUCTION "
American sailed meat taxes pLSe as 10, ne Scnr nr
lessor of tile Veterinary School at Brussels
hasten TO inform you that human richlnosis II II eAsts
In Belgium be very rare. have no hno"enee
up To this DAY Of any OF this disease WIN u.s. either
I'm human beings animals, barring cases OF mice
ton Tor experimental pufposes' 90 mere Is oo ad
where American sailed meats nave nee chfJ, anu
they wish of t.ih.nos5 IL mas 10 DC gwen
experiment TO an animal, ,,.;; 20. NV . con.
Gentlemen, | think 1t Is established, not by soh
troversy OF scientists, bat by material iaets Wnign
defy all discussion, that the countries winch leeu III
large quates-I nave Just given you the figures so iar
rs England is concerDed-uOn American is@.s' III hO
way sullcr thercrom no case mas been ooserSeo ecr
American meats have never been proniblteL On oile
other hand numerous cases nave oen mean
In Germany-because Germany is really tile land OF
tichn0sis.
FRANCE GAINS NOTHING By PROHIBITION
Well gentlemen, can it be that, Oh the other hand
agricultural interests, material Interests OF any KIND
are engaged in the debate, and opposed u the measure
which tine Government ashs you 10 ad0ptf ION te
Right-Ies! IesD
Tie Miister-ilas me breeding Of the hog, since
the DEGREES prohibiting the importation OF American
meats into France, taken such considerable develop
ment! ION The Right-Ies- Yes >. Has .his breed
ing | say, assumed Importance 50 considerable as
compensate for The very sr!lJus ulai.dVah.1ees
which have followed the prohibition dececd III looi
us regards the food supply OF the iaOyrlns classes
iOrId the importation Of io-d piUGncts whch nave
been consumed during a l0hg pchd "a ye@Is' Ol d
substantial nOunsiiIncut at IOW price, thhJ When
such ., measure IL Is evident that serious
attack is made tee conditions OF existence Oh ou
An est l,iaI point Of this debate. AmeIican pork
meats OF "a character quite distinct nom fronch
sumed by the peasant who bIeeas H. who leeds ms
family it, he does not sell the animal ne Dress OF
II e does, goes tins consumer ana the pork butcher
and Is constantly eaten In fresh STATE, Or nearly So
There does not exist in France Il may be sad %lth
few exceptions, and in proportion 50 small thai IL
need MOI be taken account, there DOS not exist
in France any industry analogous that OF The salt
Ing Of American meat. Ia short, the meat of the
French hog IS consumed almost eniifely III fresh
tate and Is not intended for class Of
suIners the American sailed meat, which b the fO0d
o. the poor
An ATTACK on THE LABoRING CLASSES.
When the measure Of which / speaking was
taken in 1851 ana The laboring classes deprived
these American "ilNh Licy
not at the pork Butchers bat the gooers ut very
low price and which enabled them to prepare, b.
putting vegetables with them, IA more agreeable and
more substantial food the industry OF breeding
hogs benefited in return To any large extent! were
these millions OF consumers wOrhins-men, day-abor
crs, enabled TO replace the food which CAME from
America by similar indigenous food and under the
same oonoatlons OF That the question to be
EXAMINED. (sisns oI APPROVAL We hhNe ON! u
lance at The ngures Inc number OF hOgs bred be-
uI1i 0.Jts
1hs Is according 20 The hgufcs gwen by ue aeroul1
Inere mad increase vi 4J-,OVO head OF an III
And dnring TINS time. in England, where American
salted meats hud entry, was there falling Oi
in the breeding OF The native hogi Ola this Ainer
can competition, which was so heen1you Gave seen
,iIe satisfies of importation-Idl the Englsh
breeding Industry 1t nas developed more riplIy
Than in France III England, in 1890, the number OF
hog, WAS 5000 900 Ia 1910 IL reached 4362, COO con
se9erty All absolute increase on smaller initial To-
tal OF o62 900 head, against 4o2UOO III France ana
ony as In krpnce where The NaAona breeding III
dustry Was protected, II is said, by the pIonthtlO
0ui Th sa you see clearly that from the point OF
view agricultural Interests the measure adoped
other hand. IL has still less benefited the consumer
for whom we ought, suppose TO nave some eQncsrn
C,euemen since the Of prohibition, this Singular
phenomenon has taken place that tne price On tie i've
nOgfor what interests the amt Is he price o. te
sausage which Is purchased from tile PORK butcher
tine psice of pork sold IN the market py ihe peasant
has
day the hog he has raised lower price an ne sold
II for in 1880 1nterruptons IaAing three CHASSIS
of meat a. they cassed al the market OF Ia ncte
hire Is the average which nave arrived d. talhe
in order 10 have more exact price independent VI
The accidental fluctuations which occur from year 10
ear the three years preceding and tie hree years
Since the prohibition, tnat Is to say the Years 'o''
1859 1880: ,,.,- - ...nos
to-day 1856 francs. ,,, - ,n.,cs
second quality-Before the prohibition, 14I francs
to-day 40 francs. ., 500 s.,,os
Third auaity-Before the prohibition, lo9 francs
today l25 francs. ION the Right-ThcIe are reasons
The Mniser-We will discuss the causes; lei Us ntss
srerifv thr facts Thus absolute decrease, as regards
he Agricultural Industry rs regards the breeder III lAe
nrice of the meat ON the market Of IL. per cent
30 per cent and 10 per cent aecorui"s I" '"e
quality. ~ -. ,,, n, r.tau
And during this time. has the meat sea AZ rvtaD
IN the consumer been affected In the same way hts
There been decrease OF TO- IL per cent for the con
sumerl Not at all. There has been MA Increase, ana
taking the last prices OF the ham market ut fario We
see thew are the same or that there is even an III