The record-union., 1891-09-21

WISH 10 say, as 1HdlTIIldu OF In6 OOfn-
mittee on Resolutions, that we had the
pleasure upon that committee of meet
ing with Judge Goodwin, the representa-
tive upon the committee of Utah, and the
very language which l have read as the
concluding clause of this resolution was
the language dictated by Judge Goodwin
as the wish OF the Utah delegation. It
was put into that resolution out of defer
ence to the wish of the committee, and
originated in the fertile genius and brain
OF Judge Goodwin, the representative of
Utah. [ submit that after this Committee
on Resolutions has listened to the plea of
Utah, Territory that by the United
States census is shown to stand within
two of the top with respect to intelli-
gence and education, and because the
Territory of Utah, as the United States
census shows, no matter what system
may be complained of here, stands third
on the list of States in the ability of her
citizens to read and write, and my State
OF California, with a school fund of S.
100000, stands way down on the list,
nlnth-what'S the matter with Utah? 1t
has an ambition to climb to the top. 1
have no doubt that ambition was repre-
sented by Judge Goodwin last night, and
TO do 1t we accepted the language dictated.
i submit that there is that sentiment in
public body which requires the elements
of good faith and responsibility for the
dCbtOUS VI It's REPRESENTATIVES, All L ask Is
that 1t stand by the voice of their MEM
Der Of the Committee on Resolutions and
respect the report of that gentleman and
also respect their own self-respect.''
To this Governor Thomas responded.
He spoke at great length, and said his
delegation from Utah would keep faith
with the congress assembled. California
had made out proposition in the con-
yention for her good, and wanted L Utah to
take back seat. That was the trouble.
- say that there is an evident determine
ton here to force down the throats Of this
convention every idea which they think
we should adopt. Now, / do not pretend
to say that California does not know what
is best. They have sent here an able
delegation, a delegation whose intelli-
gence will command the respect of every
member present in this convention, but
also say that we here in Utah have some
idea, and some sense, of what we think
are our greatest needs. Utah had just
adopted free school law. 1t was gener-
Gus and patriotic law, and equal to any
school law. But the support of the
schools is a grevious burden upon the
people of the Territory. 1.-The ondow-
ment which this great Government of
ours intended the schools should have has
been taken from us, from no fault of the
people Of Utah. They could not help
themselves. Therefore the support OF the
PuDltC SCuOOlS lS gong 10 IGilldIIl Il ullecI
tax upon the people unless some pro-
vision be made for meeting the expenses
and for giving to the Territory and the
schools the endowment which the Gov
ernment intended it should have, We
think that in asking this convention to
adopt such resolution we are entirely
in the purpose and meaning of the call
We recognize the fact that the question of
irrigation is matter of first considera-
ton, and we are willing to make it first
in our resolution. All that we ask is that
you make the schools matter Of second
ary consideration; but we want you to
trust the Legislature of the State or Terri
tory Of Utah to do what is right
He continued at length upon the
beneficence of good school systems and
the importance of free schools to the
nation and the duty of free people to
educate the population. He said:
This convention was assembled under
call which announced clearly, in words
so distinct that every man who runs may
read, that it was for the purpose of ask
ing Congress to cede the lands to the
State; first, for the purposes of irrigation;
second, in aid of the public schools, and
third, for such other purposes as the
Legislatures OF the State may respectively
determine. The Government of the
United States has donated more than
seventynine million acres of the most
lSl CIAC 1dlloo III tHC I1dSG 5llpDcTG Oh the
public school systems of the East, and it
would be a very small return for the
great and wealthy East, if they would
now help the Territory of Utah and other
States and Territories TO obtain little of
the generous bounty which they have OBJ
tained.'
Francis G. Newlands of Nevada spoke
in favor of the Utah amendment. In
the course of his remarks he said that
the school funds of California and Nevada
had been obtained from sales of lands
granted by the Government Utah has
not received the benefit of such grant,
and it is, therefore, justice to now pro-
vide for her school fund by the method
proposed.
Governor Thomas desired before the
convention took a recess to withdraw
what he had said regarding the remarks
of the chairman Of the California delega-
ton.
Mr.. Irish also withdrew any remarks
he may have made which have wounded
the feelings OF the Utah delegation.
Mr.. Mills made a few remarks in which
he said he wanted to impress upon the
convention, and particularly the Utah
delegation, that the only thing California
would try to ''choke down their throats''
would be California's wine and fruit
The amendment prevailed by 307 to
lib. The Congress then resumed its ses-
SlOls NObSS Va lndIihS were passed. 1Or
courtesleS extended and entertainment
provided. Then in Committee of the
Whole the third resolution reported by
the committee was taken up.
Mr.. New!ands offered this amendment:
ReSotued That ii is the sense of this conyen-
ton that the wisdom and intelligence of the
Legislatures of the respective States and Ter
ritories may be safely trusted to make such
provisions of law as are necessary to secure
the ownership of irIigabe land to actual set
tiers in suitable holdings.
He spoke in support of it, saving he
would limit holdings to l60 or 800 acres.
The speaker remarked that by asking
that the State be restricted the congress
cast reflection on the legislator. There
might be eXtravagant measures passed.
but in the end the actual settler would be
protected by the State.
Mr.. Estee of California offered the fol-
lowing:
ResotUed, That the trusts so created shall be
so conditioned as to secure the ownership of
irrtgable land to actual settlers in suitable
holdings (attach amendment) not in any case
exceeding $50 acres.
What was meant by a suitable hold
ing? Gentlemen might say that it meant
20 acres or $40; but he had yet to see a
man with desire Tor land who ever con-
sidered that he had enough to constitute
a suitable holding. The limit should be
definitely fixed. While he did not wish
10 question the honesty OF any legislative
body, it was a fact that four or five
men can go to any legislative body and
get a measure passed in their interest
The big ranches of California were a
blight upon its face. Had these extern
sive grants not been made the population
of the Golden State would be now 3, ,OOO, 900
instead Of ] ,200,00
Mr.. Hagin of Idaho opposed the placing
in the resolutions any restrictions upon
the granting of lands, but wanted the
matter left to the States and Territories.
Judge Emery of Lawrence, Kansas
appealed to the California and Nevada