The record-union., 1891-07-21
He did not"


He was not. At another visit Senator
De Long was present. He was the only
one there.'
WAS there ever time when Broder-
ick was there?"
II don't recollect any time.'
"Do you recollect the time when you
Welch and Broderick were in Burns
room at the Capital Hotel, and Mr.. Taylor
called ?''
81 do not remember
do You remember talking to Mr..
Burns, when Welch and Broderick were
present, about electric railways ?''
Il never did,
Never in your life talked with Burns
| about electric railways p"
''Never, SIR"
''Were you present at a meeting when
Welch, Broderick and yourself were APP
pointed COMMITTEES to consider this
Faylor matter?''
81 was not"
''Did you ever call on Burns at the State
Capital?''
81 did-once I went to see him in the
ante-room of the library. / think it was
in February"
"Was Welch there?''
He was not, so far as / recollect.n
How many times did you visit Burns
at the ibrary?''
TWICE. believe"
No more than twice ?"
Il believe not. I called at the library
and one OF the attaches, Mr.. Leak, told
me Burns wanted to see me. We met at
one time to talk over some Of the Gov
ernor's appointments"
CHUTE AND CRIMMINs.
"Did you meet Richard Chute at Sacra-
mento during the session of the Legisla-
ture?'
81 did--once or twice in the lobby"
Ibid Won Mr. firinlTninS in
| Sacramento ?"
II object to this fishing expedition.
| Counsel said nothing about this in his
statement" said Mr.. Campbell.
Il will say, in addition said Mr..
| Clunie, that we wish to show that there
was fund OF 100000 raised for certain
| purposes; that Crimmins was first Sc
selected as custodian OF the fund, but
there was dissatisfaction with him, so he
was removed and Burns substituted,
while Mr.. Chute was the disbursing
agent.'
Tie question being allowed by the
! court, witness said ne knew Crinmins,
and had met him in Sacramento some
time in January.
'There was one meeting that I recollect,
where Senator G. II. Williams was not
| present. CrimminS asked US which one
would Introduce the fire department bill,
and | agreed to do so.''
|
! bell, witness denied any knowledge of
any partnership of the sort referred TO in
! the complaint, and said, moreover, very
! positively, that he had never in his life
| spoken a word to plaintiff Taylor.
| Frank Freeman, commercial traveller
| for George III. Tay & Co., was the next
| witness. He testified to having seen
Burns in the interest ofthe Glenn County
! bill, the passage Of which he was in Sac
ramento to advocate. He went to see
Burns to get him to use his influence for
| the bill
Did you have any money in Sacra-
| mento ?'
81 had great deal for nv expenses.
etc."
did you offer Burns any money!"
! 81 told him l was here to get that bill
! through, and Burns told me he would
! have nothing whatever to do with any
money proposition"
did you ever pay out any money in
! Sacramento that you had received to urge
! the passage Of the Glenn County bill?
| Counsel objected, but Clunie said he
would show that witness was given a
| check for $40, 900 from his father, who had
received it from Mrs. Hugh J. Glenn,
widow of DR.. Glenn.
| Witness was then closely questioned,
| the court taking a hand as well as coun-
| sci. Finally witness said he paid some
|
Nothing was said what this money
was for; the matter was not discussed"
"Who is Mr.. Gerber ?'
'He is banker of Sacramento"
! ''Is the money in the bank now?'
81 do not know"
''How much money did you give Mr..
! Gerber?''
Twenty thousand dollars"
! Did you ever give checks against that
deposit?"
Il never did, and, so far as I know, the
money is there yet. So far as I know
none of the defendants ever got cent of
| this money. There was no understand
! ing between myself and Gerber that any
! OF this money was to go to defendants.
/ There were three or four persons who
were authorized to draw this money"
! The court thought that further ques-
| tions on this point would be improper
| since the witness affirmed that defend
/ ants had no connection whatever with the
! funds put in the bank, but a few other in
! terrogations were finally allowed
/ did you deposit this money with Ger
! Der by the request of Mr.. Burns?"
mo SIR"
did you have any understanding that
Burns should draw the money?'
mo. sir.''
Did you have any other money to
| spend in Sacramento ?''
Il had between 8. 600 and 81. .O0O.n
! Did you meet Taylor in this city re-
| cently?'
''Yes, sir; l met him corner California
and kearny Streets"
Did you not say to hi i'm that you owed
! defendants certain money and that YOU
| intended to pay them?''
''I told him if | owed him anything ii
l had any obligations should meet
them; because others did not was no
reason why | should not pay"
did not Mr.. Burns require you to de-
posit the $4,000 in the bank before he
would agree to use his influence for the
| Glenn County bill?''
Mr.. Burns never required me to de-
poSit one cent"
did You meet with any of the defend
ants after this money was deposited?"
I did not"
At this point the court took q recess.
In the afternoon II. r. Mann testified
that he has been in the insurance bust
ness for twenty-five years. II know
Mr.. Chute by sight; do not know Mr..
| Burns. l gave no money to anyone for
| Mr.. Burns or Mr.. Chute. ! paid nv
portion of an assessment levied by the
insurance union to pay expenses at Sac