The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1891-01-20
rrOTURE TO BE PRESSED.
uoAR ToHAvE AHARD TIME HOLD
ING A QUORUM.

JoAR TO HAVE a HARD TIME aOLO-
ING A QUORUM.
uolcott, Stewart, Teller and Stanford
psf,se to Stand by Him-Other Re-
.,blican Senators Also Apt to Kick
o,t of the Traces-The Days Debate.
w.sEtSeroN, Jan. 19.-Senators Hoar,
o.,o,sr and Aidrich have determined to
1.ss one last grand effort to crowd the
-I.,rre rule and then the force bill through
-. Senate. They are depending largely
'.,on blufing to effect their purpose. They
~ 20 abandon the attempt to get the
sna.force bill men into line at caucus to
"a held tonight. Senators Wolcott.
S,.vart Teller and Stanford told them
srsnkly that they would not agree to sup
nor. a cloture rule or force bill. They
pointed out to Senators Hoar, Spooner
"a Aldrich that if it should be justitiable
10 press a cloture rule, it certainly could
no. be justified now.
GIVEN NO EXCUSE.
They reminded the force bill undertakers
frat the democrats had done nothing yet to
irstifv a charge of flibustering and that a
.birtv-hour continuous session was all too
short to satisfy the country OF their SINGER
itv They intimated that a cloture rule
cauld not be decently pressed for two
weeks vet, supposing that the demo-
Gratis were openly f1libustering, and
they washed their hands OF the
snbseouent proceedings. Left in this
nredicament the force bill republicans de-
termined that il was less perilous to go for
ward than backward, and announced that
the coture rule would be pressed to-mor-
row and a vote on is sought on Thursday.
The announcement that the Vice President
would help them not only with his casting a
vote but with his rulings, particularly with
that to which Mr.. German objected so
strongly and cogently to-day.
THE OBJECTIONABLE RULING.
Under this whenever the Vics President
felt like it, or was made to do it. he could
shut down on debate upon the cloture rule,
and then, on an appeal from bis decision,
would declare that unbeatable and so
bring the matter to a vote. Their success
depends then only upon their securing a
quorum Of republican senators to
support them at every stage Of the
proceedings, but the supporting quorum is
lust that which seems beyond their furthest
reach. There were to-day forty-fve repub-
lican senators in Washington. This is just
quorum, but four of these, Senators VOL
colt, Teller, Stewart and Stanford, are
avowedly and determinedly opposing the
force bill project.
INGALLS, GOING AWAY.
Another, Senator Ingalls,, is expecting to
leave for Kansas tomorrow. At least two
others are expected to quietly absent them
selves, If they should not vote with Senator
oil &c cftFrr ho,s ss@fA Afs~.sA u arakT
bill men may be increased to five or six. At
all events, supposing that Senators Squire,
Pettigrew, Moody and the other absentees
could be brought here, as Senator Chandler
will be, Senator Hoar could not be sure of
heavlng forty-hve votes at every time of
need. He hopes, OF course, to make the
fight so hot as to compel forty-hve repub-
lcans to stand by both cloture and the force
bill
The democrats are very well satisfied with
the situation They have all the advan-
tages of it and will fight gamely. They
will not hesitate to filibuster if it becomes
necessary, feeling that the country will sus.
tain them In their attempt TO prevent the
introduction Of Reedism In the Senate.
WASHINGTON, Jan. I9.-The Senate met
at II o'clock this morning. Mr. Blair had
returned from his unsuccessful contest fol
reelection, and was (while the journal oi
Friday was being read cordially greeted
and sympatbizsd with by senators Of both
parties, among others by Senator Ingalls,,
whose own re-eiection appears to be in such
oanger. After the reading of the journa
there was colloquy between Messrs. Cor.
man and HoBr as to its correctness on some
points and the matter was satisfacto
aoJusted. Mr.. Gof man, however, availed
himself of the occasion to argue against
the correctness of the decision of the Vice
resident during Fridays session, TO the
effect that an appeal from a decision was
not debatable, because the question itself
on which the decision was made was an un.
deoatable one. Mr.. German admitted tha
tne rule, although in direct conflict with
all the authorities, had obtained until 1884
when the rule was modified 80 as to max,
Ncontorm to general parliamentary law.
HoAR INTERPosEs.
Mr.. Hoar inquired what the motion was,
Mr.. German said that it was motion to
correct the journal
Mr.. Hoar desired to have the motion
stated formally.
Mr. Spooner thought that Mr.. German
might be allowed to go on and state his
views without any particular formality.
%I. dorman expressed his indebtedness
20 Mr.. Spooner, who, he said, was always
frank and fair,
Mr. Hoar explained that il Mr.. Gormar
% %ueslred to have the journal amended, either
;SttDStantially % or formally, he wished to have
stated. II, on the other hand, he wished
s uuanlnous consent to proceed with his re-
nSSks, ne MIR. Hoar) would not object.
Mr' Gorman stated that under the rule
osi os u stood prior to 1884, debate was not in
O o,uer on an appeal where the original
sleSuon was not debatable, and that under
of coange then made question
~ oruer might be raised at any stage of the
sssSoeeolngs and should be decided without
sDo DUa.s subject to appeal TO the Senate, "any
NJ ffpeS f taken" on any subsequent question
snS STaer)' IL was perfectly clear, he argued
ior. ~ one which did not admit of two opin.
bato' bo' mat the rule which had prevented de.
vao a'e On an appeal where the question itself
rs Ts undeoatable was taken up.
o,cIan ue discussion was kept up until t2:3t
no.;c' C.GcK' when Mr.. German withdrew hu
n-o.' n-o.o9' The journal of Friday was ap'
raoItS raOEea and the morning business was pro.
CARNoCHAN A SoUTHERNER.
b,n NJ the Senate this afternoon the elections
snd wS va taken up as the unfinished business
~ MI MAr' George took the floor. He yielded
ana ~. Hosr, who sent to the clerks desl
r1a.td nad read letter to himself from Post
;'ueVer Randolph of Anuiston. Ala, depy