The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1891-09-11
Excursions, Music and Other Entertainments
Discussed by the Utah
Delegates

proprlatlng water irrespective OF the state
OF territory through which the water may pass
GOVERNOR THOMAS
stated at some length the disadvantage In
which the territory had been placed by the
government arbitrarily setting aside Sec
tlons 10 and 36 as school lands. Many of
the best sections had been patented and
lost 1or school purposes while much of the
rest was mountainous or arid land. 'Utah, -
he said, had gone as far ahead in proy,d-
ing public schools as any other state or
territory according to the aid she had re-
celved from the national government, and
the tax Tor maintaining the system was
very heavy on the citizens. If ANYTHING
coula oe dono to secure congressional legis-
lation in donating more lands l am In favor
OF it.n
COLONEL HoLLISTER
SAID that If the object of the irrigation con-
gress WAS to have the national Congress
cede the arid lands to the states and terri
tories the policy should be thoroughly dis
cussed.
COLONEL N. TREwEEK
wanted to wait until they heard the views
OF the congress, aud did not think il was
In good grace to dictate to the convention
what 1t should do.
JUDGE GOODWIN
said the purpose was to frame suggestions
Tor the consideration of the convention.
Inc resolution favored doing away with
riparian rights, and it was Questionable to
his mind whether II was wise to advocate
such sweeping innovation. The other
DELEGATIONS, he believed, would come
united, not to dictate to the convention,
put to vote solidly for such men assures
tney are agreed upon. He moved to strike
out the words ''abolishing all riparian
rights hereto attached.
COLONEL HoLLIsTER
thought that the cedlng of the arid land q
involved such radical change in the gov
eruments policy that it should be first
thoroughly discussed, and he questioned
whether the government could not handle
the arid lands better than the states. There
are strong reasons why a certain portion
OF the arid lands should be reserved until
the territory becomes state.
c. E. wANTLAND
stated that the matter was no new thing
and that bill had been presented to Con-
gress for ceding the arid lands.
j. B. MILNER
was opposed to striking out the words ssof
all riparian rights"
"lf the ownership of the water shall be
construed to not belong to the states
through which it passes the question bris.
ties all over with difficulties. We ought.
however, to have some defined views. as
= tan was the tirst to call the convention.
When the supreme court of California 3
few years ago recognized riparian rights if
nearly raised revolution and came uear
lmpeach1ng the judges who made it. We
have liked belief here that riparian rights
should not exist In Utah. l agree with
Judge Goodwin that remotely riparian
rights might be advantageous 10 US. Irri-
gators object TO anything that looks like a
restoration of riparian rights. We are in
FAVOR OF asking Congress to give the arid
lands to somebody that they may be re-
claimed. We are in favor of tue unre-
deemed lands being redeemed.
Nv hat are we to understand by riparian
rightsW asked Fred Trimmer
That the owner of land through which
stream passes shall have the use of the
water without any diminution by persona
owning land above or below it" was the
definition given by MIR. Miller.
JUDGE BARTCH
said that the question had been tried In the
hot Springs case, and the doctrine was
held to be good in this territory. " think
the more we mix up this question the yyorse
we will be off," He thought it very good
thing. We have lakes, and certainly the
men who settle upon the lakes have rights
TO the water. 1t is settled that a person
owning land AUDITING on a stream owns the
thread OF the stream. a more important
question Is to determine how we are going
to entertain the delegates.
The motion to strike out the worda "abol
lshlng all riparian rights" carried by a vote
Of IS to IL.
On G. E. Wantland's motion
The ENTIRE RESOLUTION WAS REFERRED
to committee of five to report at the next
meeting.
The chair appointed as this committee
Governor Thomas, Fred Trimmer. ludge
Bartch, L. E. Hall and Hon j. b. Miner
Secretary Gillespie stated that the com
mittee had been unable to secure any cen
trally located building in which to hold the
convention, the church authorities. in :,
polite letter, having denied theirs. The
theatre was not available, as a spectacular
play was booked for that time, and thai the
hammering going ON in arranging the
scenery would interfere with the meeting,
He recommended
THE EXPOSITION BUILDING
as suitable place 1t was voted TO hold
the convention in the exposition building
In regard to excursions, Secretary Gil
lespie said that the Rio Grande Westero
bad rendered train to carry the Delegates
to the sugar works at Lehi. The railroads
had about concluded to sell tickets for side
trips during the convention at one. third of
one fare.
THE CHORAL SOCIETY
had agreed to give festival for the beref,
of the delegates on the 10Th inst. the tab
ernacle having been obtained for that pur.
pose.
This opno,,oo,a,+ ,-,, 80
applause.
Secretary Gillespie stated that the side
trips were to be arranged to come after the
congress was over as it might interfere
with the attendance.
The committee was instructed to hire 8
band to furnish music at the Exposition
building during the congress.
Chairman Donnellan said that delegates
of the international geological convention
were to be in the city during the setting
OF the congress and that it might be proper
to extend an entertainment to these dis.
tinguished gentlemen at the Knutsford.s
l.. Il. Hall thought 1t would tax the
citizens all they could stand to take care of
the irrigation congress.
1t was suggested that the city council
should take care of the biologists
Governor Thomas was instructed to in
vite the delegates of the international con-
gross of biologists TO attend the irrigation
congress.
Judge Goodwin stated that it would be
proper for the local committee to
OPEN THE CONVENTION
with addresses CT welcome by Governor
Thomas and the mayor of the city, after
which the congress could perfect it's own
organization and rules of business.
l.. E. Hall asked if any set papers had
been prepared to be read at the convention.
Secretary Gillespie stated that he had
been advised that a numhar of neranna