The Helena independent. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1875-1943, 1891-11-11
A RUSSIAN STATESMAN.
Premier M. dc Giers Submits to an
Interview by an American
Correspondent.
He Is at Wiesbaden In Search of
Rest, Recreation and Re-
cuperation.
y Russia viii Not Disregard Treaties to
Which She Is u Party-Expul-
sion of Jews. -5Tr ~"4

W1rspApEN, Nov. 10.-I was admitted
Saturday to the sunny quarters OF M. d
Giers, the Russian statesman, ostensibly
perhaps seriously, here for cure, but the in
eyitahle duties attached to his position fol
low him even into the sacred hours of fam
ily life, Nj. de Giers said: "Tho fact is
have obtained a congo for q short vacation
After visiting Southern Europe l have. con.
trary to my original intention, come here
for a couple of weeks solely to benefit my
health. ], as we'll az Nine. de Giers, am
now under the care Of a doctor. We desire,
if we possibly can. to remain absolutely
quiet"
Your excsllenoy will easily understand
how in the present nervous state of Europe
the world would like to know il, as the pa
pers reported, you are going to Paris"
mo, sir,' he answered promptly, myself
and family intend returning home from
here direct. ! may say We shall not touch
Paris, or Berlin either"
.'Thsre has been much speculation o
corning your s~1oellency's interview with
Rudini at Monza recently. Would you
mind telling me il there is any reason for
attaching much Importance to the meet
ingY"
'sNone at all. 1t seems strange to me
that any one should fail to see the necessity
of the exchange of compliments between
public men. 1t is equally natural that at
such a meeting most prominent questions
should be ventilated, but that does not
necessarily entitle the public TO MAKE via
speculations."
- ..r, i =. 8. A... kI,.k AL~ cha
ment between you country and France
has recently been even more than cordial,
and does it not seem natural that people
should draw various conclusions there
from?"
'.Oh, YES, people will talk, and particu-
larly the press. Our sympathy for France
is quite natural. She is very generous. and
longs for sympathy as readily as she gives
it to others. Then. too, she has ever
afforded us a bright aide OF life. We see IN
her not only necessity, as some are pleasea
to call it, but convenience and pleasure.
The former she has proven recently IN her
liberal subscription to the Russian loan;
the latter she has always afforded; hence
our rscen4 manifestation were quite nat
ural."
SIS il not possible that in case of war be-
tween France and Germany. Russia may
feel it opportune to stretch a hand towards
the Balkan states and the Bosphorus?"
what Russia may do in such an event it
would be manifestly improper for me to
tell you, All l can do is to refer you to
Russia's national policy, which has re-
manned the same for centuries, and will
continue unaltersd rs far al l can sse."
'Sons have thought it possible that Rus
STA may after all consent to Prince Ferdi-
nand's oandidature and the recognition OF
Bulgarian independence"
swell, if that is the impression, I may
easily dispel the dream. We are by no
means inclined to disregard the treaty
which disposed of Bulgaria and the Balkan
question. OF what use are the treaties if
they are to be disregarded at the convent
snce of those who sign them?"
''Would your e1cellency favor me with
your reasons for the seemingly arbitrary
manner in which Russia has been dealing
with her race questions of lAte!"
II assure you nothing surprises me more
than, outside criticism on this very question.
Surely every landlord must know how to
govern his estates. Any arrangement not
detrimental to his nsighbor is a matter
solely for his own concern. Are No the only
nation which, in trying to shape order out
of chaos, finds it necessary to apply discip--
linary measurss2 Look at the history of
Frederick the Gseat. Again. look at con-
tinental history from Waterloo down to
Sadowa; the Punishment of Heine; the es-
pionage over Niebuhr; Fritz Reuters i'm
pFlBOuUlGuLs tuo ulbtOIy u m6IA, WAono
father had already ceased to be q Jew, who
had a record Of having bsen q faithful pupil
of Hegel, yet he was considered as danger
GUS. Shall I further refer to Schurz and
others who have grown great and prudent
since, and yet can you say that we have any
such redeeminR lights among those of our
disturbing elements, whose only idea Of
revolution is murder. rapine and nothing
short of n1hilism? l cannot we'll under
stand" he continued, why civilized
nations should c~riticise our efforts at do
mestic government whom they only need
look at England and her dealings with East
India at the time of the mutiny. What
would your press say, for instance, if We
were to put a hundred nihilists before a
%cannon's mouth and blow them to pieces.
Any further comparison seems to me quite
needless."
question if Russia was much disappointed
in Prince Bismarck's resignation?'
well. that cannot be denied. We had
pleasure in knowing the prince. We had
promises. 1t was Disappointing to us. as is
the severance of any old ties. Bismarck's
fault lay, according to his critics, in the
fact that he was too Fortunate"
II should like to solicit your opinion if
the vast ornaments of Russia, particularly
at the Prussian and Austrian frontiers, pre-
sumo war at an early day."
"Well, your question is very naive" the
old gentleman replied with n smile. "No, ]
cannot we'll initiate you into the hidden
future of which l know little myself. But
may say that We have no valid reason for
wishing war with any of our neighbors.
We are bent. as your country 10, on a do
mestic policy of naturalization and com
mercial prosperity. Wehave vast resources
and not always sufficient ready capital tc
protect these. We think it necessary tt
keep up an adequate army. But you will
excuse me-" he continued, rising; II am q
busy man Notwithstanding the ssclusion
sought here. l cannot quite find time tt
indulge, as do many Of your representative
men, in innocuous desuetuds.'
And with this he bowed and | took my
leave. His excelloncy is we'll Oh in year
and looks quite won. He seems to sutfe,
from partial lameness in his left side ans
drags bis left shoulder. Otherwise h.
bears the appearance of an ~overworket
man, laden with many cares. lie i
thoughtful, moditative and always gus
picious. At present he has with him hi
wife, a pleasant little lady of near 60, ant
his daughter, an intelligent young lady.
California Matters.
SAN Francisco, Nov. 10.-At a meeting @
NtIa ot,ta board re frala T., j,, NJ ID rus,