Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1891-03-09

sIoNKR-HE DENIES THE CORRECTNESS OF THE
REPORT AND TELLS WHAT He DID SAT-.
Some Of the statements alleged to have been
made by members of the Indian delegations
which were here last month have caused q
good deal Of indignation in army circles and
as time has rolled on the indignation has Sath-
cred volume and warmth. Among officers who
were in the late Sioux campaign the sense of
injustice is extremely acute and il il therefore
not surprising that some Of them should pro-
coed to investigate the charges which, for the
past three weeks, have been damaging the
reputation of the army the world over.
The detrimental allegations as first made pub
lie were attached to the name Of Hollow Horn
Bear, who was one Of the more prominent
chiefs that came here from Rosebud agency.
Every army officer acquainted with the facts
declared the statements to be untrue and those
officers who knew Hollow Horn Bear asserted
very fatty that he never gave utterance to the
aspersions.
When the reports of what purported to be
Hollow Horn Bears statements reached Rose
bud they were freely discussed, and when
Hollow Horn Bear himself returned he was
questioned about them.
HOLLOW HORN BEAn INTERVIEWER.
On the I'd instant Hollow Horn Bear was Off
cially interviewed, there being present Capt.
Porter, eighth infantry; Capt. Boyle, twenty
first infantry; Capt Lee, ninth infantry: Lieut.
Pitcher, eighth infantry: Lieut. Heyl assistant
surgeon; Lieut. Mcfarland twenty-first infan-
try; Indian Agent Wright: Interpreters Louis
Richard, Louis Minard, Charlie Tackett; In
dians-Lance, High Pipe, Hawk Ghost and
Eagle Man. Lieut.. Mcfarland acted as re-
corder and Louis Richard did the Interpreting
Capt. Lee said: ''Ten Hollow Horn Bear that
Col. Poland has written a number of letters to
the officers and agent in regard to a matter
that will explain. These letters have come
since he (Hollow Horn Bear was in here. Col.
Poland feels like man who put in a dark
place. Capt. Porter is the soldier chief in his
place. / have seen these letters and feel that
1t is right that these gentlemen should be here.
1 will say to you that every mail brings to me
clippings which say that the soldiers are de-
bauchlng Indian women. This was sent ont
from Washington over wires People are read
ing it all over the country. 1t shows the
soldiers in q bad light. / have asked you to
come as a man, face to face and repeat what
you said. Ii 1t is true it is right that You
should say it. 1 will read to you what came in
self
Capt: Lee then read newspaper clippings, in
which Hollow Horn Bear was quoted as saving
that the soldiers were the cause of much pros
titution among Indian women. Many soldiers
went through the form of marriage and then
went away, leaving their wives and children to
be cared for by Others for this reason he did
not deem it desirable that the military should
rule at the agencies.
If" continued Capt. Lee, .these statements
are all right want you to say so. For the sake
OF Col. Poland and of the army in general
want your statement taken down. Tell just
what you said to the commissioner
HOLLOW HORN BEARS REPLY
Hollow Horn Bear-"My friends, you have
asked me to answer your question. 1 am glad
to answer it. l don't write in English but
write little in Indian. When have wanted
to make u speech have always written it down
beforehand. The reason 1 keep my papers is
because people dispute sometimes. / have got
that written expecting that somebody would
ask about it. This is the very word. OF
course have talked about good
many points, but 1 will just
talk about this. This is what said: 1 asked
the Secretary why the great father sent troops
to our reservation. There is but one law all
through the United States. The great father
said II any man did anything wrong he ought
to be punished and no one else. Today have
suffered on account Of what the troops done on
Wounded Knee. They have killed women and
children and they are frozen. and said to the
Secretary you have broke your law. 1 told him
on account of the ladies present that am not
going to say farther. and the Secretary told me
to have a talk with the commissioner about
this. went to the commissioner. The COM
to the Secretary.
WHAT HE SAID TO THE COMMISSIONER
"'Here is what Hollow Horn Bear) want to
say to you (the commissioner. You want us
to advance to civilization, that is Ito civilized
the children. am with you in that, but today
good many have been killed. All the troops
are friends of mine and the reason said they
were friends of mine is just this way: Way back
during my fathers time when they made trea-
tsxoa ..T%l 49,
the Laramie river. Some of those officers had
children there and the officers friends of
mine, because took their children and raised
them with my own money and everything.
wish you would be friend as 1 am a friend
OF your troops and take care of me and my
children. The reason l say that is
there are lots of women and children that are
innocent and they have killed them off. The
reason say that is have always gone accord
ing to laws. The one [ said know is nv
mothers sisters daughter. She married a
soldier and had a child by him. and have
taken care Of that Idon't talk about anything
except that l know it myself. Since 1 have
been young man and been with the troops
have not seen nything of that kind. am now
forty"
NO MOCK MARRIAGES.
Then Capt. Porter asked: .Do you know of
any soldiers marrying squaws or making mock
marriages since the troops have been here since
last fall?''
Hollow Horn Bear-'No! have neither
heard Of nor do know of anything of the
kind. l was with Col. Poland a great deal of
the time and know the orders were not TO
allow squaws to run around camp. Those
things l spoke of happened long time ago.
but l spoke Of them because a great many
children that spoke English were shot down"
Capt. Porter-'DO you know of these SOL
diers having made indecent proposals to the
squaws!'
Hollow Horn Bear-"No, SIR"
Capt Porter-"Have not the Indians who
came to see the commanding officer been treated
property
Hollow Horn Bear-"They have always II Gated
me nice anc all Indians the same way. The
reason mention that is because have raised
the soldiers children and want them to do
what is right to me and raise my children"
Indian Agent Wright-"Did you ever say to
the commissioner that you didn't want the SOL
diers here now on account of the occurrences of
years ago?"
ABOUT WOUNDED KNEE.
Hollow Horn Bear-"It was not on account
Of treatment of Indian women years ago, but
on account of Wounded Knee. was q captain
of police and there was one law. / only used
to arrest the guilty party and no one else. The
handful of Indians. They could have taken
them into the agency and there disarmed
them, but they wanted to kill them-womcn
and children. When 1 heard of that thought
about Gen. Crook. was sure that he would
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