The record-union., 1891-10-23
ITALY AND THE POPE.
THE GOVERNMENT CONSPIRTNG TO
EFFECT HIS DOWNFALL.
Leo Threatened With Exile and Assas
sination Unless He Submits to
Italy's Demands.
Special to the REconD-US1ox.

ROME, Oct. 22.-Interviews with emf
nent Cardinals confirm the accuracy of
the statements cabled few days ago re-
garding the feeling at the Vatican touch
ing the demonstration of French pilgrims
at the Pantheon. In a talk with an Asso-
ciated Press correspondent one of the
Cardinals who is close to the Pope said
the Investigations made proved that the
disorder of October I'd was prepared and
arranged in advance by the Italian Gov
ernment against a radical republican
demonstration at Nice, and against the
Pope. Under Secretary of State Garibaldi
he asserted, arranged the conspiracy.
The triple alliance was informed of it,
and approved of it as a reply TO the fetes
at Nice, and as direct attack upon the
Pope and pilgrims. 1t was desired as an
affirmation of the monarchial right
against the French republic and against
the statu quo at Rome. The Italian Gov
ernment sent to all Mayors a circular let
ter in order to add weight to the mani
testation.
The correspondent asked why so large
a part of the monarchical and liberal
world favored the outrages upon the
French pilgrims, and the Cardinal re-
piled that the Government wished to
give to the world the impression that
Rome is opposed to the Pope and that
Italy will not have any reconciliation
with France or any amicable understand
ing between the Vatican and the French
republic. The demonstration was the
result of the republican and democratic
policy of the Pope.
since the famous toast of Cardinal
Lavigerie," said he, land the demonstra-
tions at Cronstadt all our official world
monarchial, liberal and sectarian-has
lIN~f IN. fofa 81 f,.~,, IL 1
felt its edifce, so laboriously erected, to
be cracking and threatening ruin. All
illusions were vanishing.
Leo perfectly understood the meaning
the scandals of October I'd were intended
10 convey to him, and told what is well
known when he announced: i am no
longer 4 prisoner; i am a hostage. / am
threatened with exile and assassination
II viii not capitulate before the enemy
The officials of Italy" said the Carcli-
nal, desire 10 sequestrate him. to restrict
his liberty and declare by these demon
STATIONS that If the Pope does not Weld
ne VIII be Killed or driven from Rome.
Everybody regrets the Pantheon Incl
dents, but nobody has the courage TO
brave the anger Of the Government
What will the Pope do, eventuallv?n
said the correspondent.
II do not yet know" said the Cardinal
"He has caused diplomatic note to he
Sent 10 tle IdpaI NuncloS touching di-
rectly upon the real Significance of af
fairs. lie will wait for the public mind
to be well fixed upon the origin and
character of the liberal manifestations.
When this work of preparation is ac.
complished he viii act,
The Cardinal further said that nothing
had yet been decided upon as to the POPE
leaving Rome, but that everything was
in readiness for such step. At any rate.
the relations between Italy and the Pope
will be seriously modified. Leo is aware
of the secret maehinations of the triple
alliance. and will act in consequence.
Asked about the next conclave, the Car
dinal said they had been dreading an
exodus, but that recent events have
caused long step in the idea of holding
the conclave abroad. They had thought
only in case of war to seek for Pope
abroad, but events have enlightened
them as to the last design of an Italian
revolution.