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The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
R~EPUBLICAN .
From the Patersom Guardian.

From the Paterson Guardian.
The Republicans are evidently prepar-
ing to employ as their last resort in the
present political campaign the lavish use
of money on election day. which has al
ways been their principal apo in this
city and county. A large amount W s
spent al the recent primaries n in the
county convention to nominate the eau
didates of the bosses, and all the funds
needed to corrupt the ballot box can be
obtain ed from the railroad and other cor
porations, the capitalists and ~ofdcehold-
ers who have a %pecuniary interest in the
success OF the Republican party. The
adoption of such tactics Is plainly indi-
Gated by the raising in the Republican
organs of the ':Stop thief" cry that the
Democrats expec to win by means of
Doodle. This device is too ancient and
transparent to deceive any intelligent
citizen. The ~f1oaters may expect as copi-
Gus a deluge of Republican money on
election day as when William Walter
Phelds was a candidate for Congress.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
IN SUCIETY'S WHlRI.

"Where Next" Plays Euchre-SeveRal
Other Events of Note.
the "Where Next Progressive Euchre
Club met last night at the residence of
Mr.. George Oakie. No. 30 High street. AT
an early hour the members commenced
playing, never ceasing until twelve es
were scored. Handsome prizes were
awarded the winners. Supper was served,
after which dancing followed. Those
present were:-Misses Nelson, Miss
Blanche Oakie. Miss Mary lew, Miss Ida
Greenleaf. Mrs. Terwilliger. Mrs .Struble,
Mrs. Stone, Misses Banta, dr.. james
Kennedy. Mr.. Frank Kennedy, Mr.. j II.
Clifford, MIR. o. M. Kagan, Mr.. j.. e.
Holl, MIR. Harry Terwilliger, and Mr..
Everitt Terwilliger.
Miss Susie Hammond, of Mercer street,
gave a dance last night to a few friends.
rne evening was delightfully."- spent. ex-
cellenC music being provided. Supper
was served at eleven o'clock. Among
those present were:-Miss Jennie Field,
Miss Essle Cullen, Mis-, Katy Burke
Miss Rachel Sheldon, Miss Susie Gettis,
Nj. George Lawrence, Mr.. William
White, Mr.. Frederick Payson. Mr.. George
Mason, Mr.. Irving Hulsey and Mr.. James
Simpson.
A birthday party was rendered Miss
Ella Boggart of Baldwin avenue, last
night bv her mother. 1t was in honor of
Miss ELIAS sixteenth anniversary. There
was music and dancing by the happy
young folk and impromptu charades
which created a great deal of mirth. Sun
per was served at half past ten. Among
those present were. Miss Jennie Wells,
Miss Laura Coleman. Miss May Chand-
Ter, Miss Hattie Chandler, Miss Susie
Keers, Miss Gussie Bennett, Mis- Julia
Seldom, Mr.. John Bebee, MIR. George
Laird, Mr.. Fred Shultz. MI. William
Webster, Mr.. Isaac Buckly. Mr.. George
Ames and Mr.. Louis Jard1n.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
NoV. 5, 1891,
AT 100 O'CLOCK P. M.

AT 7,3O O'CLOCK P. M.
at which time there will be opened the
proposals for furnishing and delivering ut
the County Storeroom, Snake Hill and
County Jail, Groceries. Dry Goods, Host
cry, Notions. Hardware. Lime and Ce-
memo, Meat. MIX, Eggs, Shoes, Paints
and Oils, Wo0denware. Teas. Vegetables,
Tobacco, Provisions. Coal. Lumber, Flour,
Feed, Fish. Coffee. Spices. Yeast, Cloth
ing, Manure. Ice, and other supplies. the
delivery Of which shall be free to the
county.
Bidders can obtain Information Of all
supplies required upon application to the
Clerk of the Board. next to the Court
House. on or after October "a, who will
nave printed detailed lists of supplies.
Contracts for all supplies to date from
award and terminate November 30, 1892.
Proposals to be on forms obtained OF
the Clerk. with guarantee bonds attached.
and 10 be sealed and endorsed with the
name of the bidder and nature OF supplies.
None others will be received.
Samples Of goods required can also be
seen at the Office of the Board.
The Board reserves the right to reject
any or all bids ii deemed for the best in
terest of the county so TO do. adj
BY order of the Board.
JOHN BOYD,
Clerk.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
Public Convenience.

BY it's recent notice to the cabmen
of Exchange place the Pennsylvania
Railroad Company has given evil
another evidence of it's ~liberality and
it's regard for the convenience of the
travelling public. When the new de-
pot is finished it will contain q room
for cabs, in which those vehicles will
always be found, and thereafter the
Exchange place roadway will be free
from the nuisance of a lot of Micaw-
ber-like vehicles standing there wait
ing for something to turn up. Some
of the cabmen, it is said, do not like
the plan, but they will find it an adj
vantage. Their horses will be COM
fortably housed and the public will
know where to find them when
wanted, and won't be pestered
with them when it doesn't want
them.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
MKINLEY's PEARL BUTTONS.
From the Peterson Guardiam.


An amusing little tariff story comes
from Chicago which has a good moral
and illustrates the difference between
Republican and Democratic methods of
dealing with the public. The fact that
the great dry goods firm of Marshall.
Field g. Co. recently paid $1,000 tariff
taxes ON 81. 400 worth of pearl buttons
which it imported from Europe, or over
two hundred per cent. has afforded
plenty of anti-McKinley bill ammunition
to such speakers as Governor Campbell.
General John @. Black, of Illinois; Con-
gresham Springer and others. Mr.. Field
Is II strong Democrat, put two OF his lead
ing partners, H. N. Higgin botham and
Lafayette McWilliams are enthusiastic
Republicans. The Repu plican partners
were much dis pleased because the pearl
button item has leaked GU t, and x. l..
Barnhart, the firms Custom ouse brok-
err. was strongly reprimapded for his
careleSsnesS.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
NEW

The Cosmopolitan for November.
The Cosmopolitan magazine has de-
voted twenty-eight pages of the Novem-
Der number to a most interesting ana
exhaustive article upon Chicago from the
pen of the famous novelist, Colonel
Charles King. Count Jacassy, who
spent some time on the ground for that
purpose, and Harry Fem. have illustrated
the most charming features of the city by
twenty-eight sketches. An article upon
Alfalfa Farming in this number Is by
John Brisben Walker, who, as the result
of ten years spent in the saddle. in direct
superintendent of mis- farm Berkeley"
one of the largest Alfalfa farms in Color
formation in regard to the irrigation
plant when is destined to become
one OF the most valuable products of the
United States. General Sherman's let
tiers to his daughter. written from the
field during the war, are perhaps the
most valuable contribution that has yet
been made to the literature OF the war.
Judge Tourgee furnishes a charming
story called IAN Outing with the Queen
of Hearts," Louise Chandler MouIton,
Commander Crowningshield, ex-Post-
master General James are among the
other contributors. General Horace Por-
ter's article on militia Service" is wor-
thy the attention of every one interested
in the National Guard. Very curiously,
but little attention has ever been given in
the magazines to the frightful tragedies
of the Roman Amphitheatre. which were
carried on through centuries, and in
which the lives of hundreds Of thousands
were sacrificed. c.. Osbourne Ward,
whose book 1.-THE Ancient Lowly" last
year excited much attention, aud who
mas made this subject his life work. give.
an article on the "Massacres of tae Ro
man Amphitheatre." aud the article
illustrated by drawings by Dan Beard
and from famous paintings, covering
z of history which will hold the read
er's closest attention.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
PERSONALS.

George David Brown, who for many years
controlled a newspaper agency in this State,
visited the city this week for the first time in
several years. MI. Brown IL now a resident of
L,archmont. N. Y.
John Zsller, the Democratic candid ate for
Member of Assembly, does not permit his visions
of future craftsmanship to Interfere with his
business. He attends to his duties as sergeant
alarms ofthe Court House with the same regu-
larfty aud punctuality thai he did before. he
was assured he wonid be a law maker.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
RAYONNE

The first of a series OF hops to be given
by the Newark Bay Boat Club will take
place this evening in the dubious on
West Thirty-fourth street.
CHAPMAN Harris of East Eorty-ninth
street is spending his vacation with
friends at White Plains, N. Y.
Mr.. and Mrs. Robert b, Yonclls Of No.
1.O05 Avenue ID are extending courtesies
to Mr.. and MRS. Frederick Seitz and Miss
Louise w ookheiser of Easton, Pa.
Elmer E. Davidson Of West Fifty-first
street has terminated an outing in Vir-
ginia.
: The books Of the Board of Assessors
are at the Office of City Clerk Hamilton
for the inspection of cilizens
The Board of Health mas appointed
Commissioners Morris and Martinez rs a
committee to inspect the sanitary con-
dition OF the schools.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
ADJUSTMENTS.

AT the Opera House tonight Frederick
Warde, the eminent tragedian. will pre-
sent the "Montebank-" Tomorrow night
hi will appear in ''Virginus,n aud OH Sat
urday evening in "Richard Ill" 1.-The
Lions Mouth Will be repeated at the
Saturday matinee.
Next week the attraction will be Harry
Lacy, of "Still Alarm" fame, in Nynl
Crinkle's new play. "Jack Royal, of the
Ninety-second. :" 1t has an English sound,
but IL a story OF the rebellion, the scene
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
BORROWING TROUBLE.
From the NesoarN paau Advertiser.

From, the NcaodrE Daily Advertiser.
There will be 100 Northern Democrats
and III Southern Democrats in the next
House of Representatives when Congress
meets in December. That is to say, the
Northern Democrats will constitute the
larger part of the majority of the House.
Nevertheless, it is u safe bet that the
S eaker will be u Southern man. n a
majority of the leading places on com
mittees will be held by Southern Demo-
Gratis.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL IN IT.
From the Newark Advertiser.

From the Netcark Advertiser.
One of the most difficult things to prove
in this world seems to be any corrupt
practice at the polls. Why this is so is a
problem yet to be solved. But some
officers Of the law say that such is the
case, and their saving so seems to make it
SO, AS far rs the accomplishments OF any
practical results is concerned.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
and Merchants.

PROPOSALS FOR GROCERIES. BUT
1 ter, Dry Goods. Hosiery, Notions, Hard
ware, Lime and Cement, Meat, Milk,
Eggs, Shoes, Paints and OILS; wooden
Spices, Yeast, Clothing, Manure, Ice, To-
bacco. Provisions. Coal. Lumber, Flour.
Feed, Crude Oil, and other supplies for
the use of County Institutions and County,
Jail will be received by the Board OF
Chosen Freeholders of the County OF Hud-
son at their regular meeting.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
Sunday Work and Sunday Recrea-

Sunday Work and Sunday Recrea-
ton.
A Newark man by the name of
David McNamara seeks to draw a
very fine line between Sunday recrea-
ton and Sunday labor. Mr.. Nc
Namara virtually sets up the remark
able plea that while he has a right to
get drunk and raise ructions every
Sundayif lie pleases, no one a pun
ish him for it until the next day-it
would be a gross violation of the Sun
day laws to send him to Jail except
upon a secular day.
MI. Mcnamara had money enough,
it seems, to induce a lawyer to take
the same view OF the matter, and from
his stronghold in the Essex County
Jail he put forth his financial ten
tacles until he grasped the legal gen
tleman necessary to his purpose.
Judge Depue heard the argument
and preserved his decision-probably
by way of giving the prisoner some
thing to think of meanwhile, as is the
custom Of the courts, for it IA hardly
be said that he reserved his opinion.
He told McNamara's counsel that sit
had been the practice, from time i'm
memorial, to convict men Of violation
of the Sunday law or Sunday"
1t is hard to see why such a custom
should not prevail. 1t is merely a
pursuit, at worst, of the fracture orig
mated by the offender. A nan who
breaks the Sabbath cannot properly
object that the pieces should be
hurled at his own head.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

Resorts of social or other events intended for
publication in The JERSEY Cry NEWS should
be sent promptly to the editor. The lapse Of
several days between the occurrence Of an
event and the sending in of a report makes it
impossible to print 1t. News matter of all kinds
intended for the SUNDAY EDITION should,
when possible, be in the hands Of the editor
ont later than Friday at noon.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
Miss stuckey,s BIrthday.

The Star Social Circle rendered a recep-
ton to Miss Kate Stuckey in honor of her
eighteenth birthday last evening. The
reception took place in Decker's Hail,
York street. Those present were
Charles Cook, Henry Feldner, Miss Linn
lug, Mr., A. Lining, Miss Kate Everle.
Charles Kehr, Mr.. and Mrs. Stuckey.
Charles Kaiser. William Zwipf, Miss
Miller, Charles Ikeman and Miss Mary
Jorgensen.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
TWEED's GHOST o
From, the Passaic Neavs.

From the PassGic NeiUs.
The funniest feature of the politics of
this year is the warm support which the
New York Times is giving to Tammany
Hall. The blessed ghost of Boss Tweed
no doubt smiles in forgiving benediction
on the newspaper which did so much to
tree it from the corrupted body.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

THE New Brunswick Fredonian
says that in 1867 granulated sugar
sold for 10 IA and brown sugar for
16 IA cents a pound, We are not all
OF us as old as the intelligent young
editor of the Ffedonian and 1856 is a
long time ago. II he paid Is Ia cents
a pound for brown sugar in 1867 he
was very badly buncoed. True, 1857
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
BITTEN By A CAT.

Father and Daughter the Victims
Frightened BY Their Friends
s, ecial TO the Jerseu CitH Netcs.
HADDoNFIELD, Oct. %. 1891. There is
much anxiety among the friends Of
Charles S. Haines and his little daughter
Julia, who, 1t is feared, will become vic
Tins of hydrophobia. they having been
bitten by a cat believed to nave been
mad.
While the door of Mr.. Haines' house
was open Monday night, a strange black
cat rushed in and attacked little Julia,
biting her on the arm and on the cheek.
JULIA screamed. and her father rushed
into the room. The cat at once turned
upon him, and before he succeeded in
killing it, the animal had bitten him in
the leg. Mr.. Haines says the cat gave
every Indication of being mad. He inn
mediately summoned u physician aud
the wounds of himself and daughter were
cauterized.
The cats brain has been sent to Phila-
delphia for examination, aud the report is
awaited with much liquidation.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
SHODDY For LABOR.

From the Elizabeth Herald.
Until the arrival OF the rise in wages
promised by the Mckinley bill the
American workman must continue to
wear cheap coats.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
THURSDAY. OCTOBER 20. 1891.

This paper Is democratic IN principles
and Is Independent IN its vteaos on au
ocdl questions.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
Highest of all in Leavening Power--Latest u. S. Govt Report
R@hl'l:I!! B Bsx,5s,
ABSOLUTELY PURE
ABSOLUTELY PURE

being laid in New York in 1863. Some
very realistic scenes are portrayed. among
hem the Hudson Palisades, the Ken nege
at Manhatranville, tue Santa nv
Commission aud the forge scene in the
Manhattan Iron Works.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

.NITED STATES OF AMERICA, DISTRICT OF
u New Jersey. IS.
Whereas 4 libel hath been hled In the District
Court OF the United States or America. for the
District of New Jersey. ON the fifteenth daysof
October. in the yea r OF our Lord one thousana
eight hundred and NINETY one, by THE Newark
Pia k Road Company VS.. The Schooner stephen
tnderhill," her tackle. apparel ETC.. In a
for the reasons and causes in said libel mentioned.
and praying that the said vessel. her tackle. &c,
may be condemned ami sold to pay the demands
Of the Libellan Is Now. thererore in pursuance Of
the mou1tion under the seal of said Court to me al
rected and delivered, do hereby give pubiicnouce
to all persons claiming the said vessel. her tackle.
SC, or in any manner interested therein. that
the be and appear before the said District Cour t
to be held at the City of Trenton, in and for the
November next, at ten o'clock IN the forenoon Of
that day provided the same shall be q day II jurts
diction, otherwise on the next day OF jurisdiction
thereafterl then and there to tnterpose their
claims. and to make their allegations in that be-
half.
Dated this fife sntn dav of October. 1891.
W.. BUDD DRAGON,
United States Marshal for said District
VRF DENBuRGH & tsARRNTTsos,
Proctors for Libellant.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
Mr. Williams and Mr.. Feeney-A
Matter of Honor and Veracity.

Mr. Williams and Mr.. Feeney-A
Matter of Honor and Veracity.
About three weeks ago. in the heat
of the Newark Mayoralty campaign,
the New York World printed what
purported to be a speech Of Mr.. Will
liam r. Williams, Chairman Of the
Republican City Committee of New
ark, 1t reported Mr.. Williams as say
ing that President John P. Feeney
of the Jersey City Police Board
was concerned in the ballot box stuff
ing frauds of 1889, that he had stolen
one of the regulation ballot boxes and
substituted for it one filed with
fraudulent ballots to suit himself.
Mr.. Williams allowed the entire
campaign to be completed without
denying this report Of his alleged ut
terances. He could not have been in
ignorance of the assertions attributed
to him, for they were widely comment
ed on by the press of Newark, and, in
addition, he was served with papers
in a suit for libel instituted by MI.
Feeney.
In due time, however, Mr.. Williams
was summoned before the Hudson
County Grand Jury to give testimony
regarding the crime with which he
was understood to charge MI. Feeney.
He waited until after the Newark
campaign was concluded, until the
charge put in his mouth had had it's
maximum political effect, and then
and then only he went before the
Grand Jury, and repudiated the words
which he was reported as pub
licly uttering, and to which he
had, for over two weeks, given the
endorsement of silence. He not only
made this denial before the Grand
Jury, but he went to the newspapers
with it. He washed his hands of the
whole affair. He bad no knowledge
of the Hudson ballot frauds, and had
made no charge whatever against Mr.
Feeney.
Now, it seems to us Mr.. Williams is
either a--well, either ne does not tell
the truth, or else he is guilty of even
a worse dishonesty. The report of
his speech was minute and circum-
stantial. 1t is very hard to believe he
did not say just the very words that
he was reported as saying. In fact,
We believe he did say them, and is
nowtrying to make a mean, cowardly,
contemplate crawl.
But if Mr.. Williams did not make
the charge against Mr.. Feeney, how
much more contemplate and coward
ly is he in having allowed q vile SLAM
der to remain current with the sanc-
ton Of his name as long as there was
any political benefit to be derived
from it, only making a contradiction
under pressure and when there was
nothing more to be gained by the lie.
Truly, Mr.. Williams is a good leader
for the party of moral ideas.
IT is said that the Republicans in
-
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

TRENTON, Oct. %. 1891 .-Another case
of smallpox has been discovered in the
Italian quarter. A girl WAS found run
ming around covered with marks of the
disease. The health authorities were
notified and the place pl%acarded. An
tonic John threatened the INSPECTOR with
violence, and was arrested and fined $2o.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
REGULAR DEMOCRATIC NOMINATIONS.

For Senator:
ROBERT s. HUDSPETH.
For Surrogate:
JAMES. II. O'NEIL.
For Director-at-Lsrge:
AUGUST BRUGGEMANN.
For Coroners:
JOHN FAHERTY.
AUGUST BEYER-
For Assemblymen:
District.
THOMAS MAGNER.
U.-EDwARD 4. MCLAUGHLIN.
IIL.-JAMEs TUMILTY.
Iv.-PATRIcK H. O'NEILL
V.-GEoRGE A. HEANEY.
vI-TERENCE J. CARROLL.
vIL-MARTIN LAwLEss.
VIII.-JAMEs MoYLAN.
IX.-MIcHAEL ]. CoYLE.
X.-CoRNELIUs J. TAHEN.
XL.-JoHN TELLER.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
Brakemnn Mailly's worthless Checks.

Thomas Mailly, who was remanded
Yesterday on a charge of passing two
false checks, one for $7.88 and the other
for $40 IN Saloonkeeper Louis NORMAN,
$500 by Police Justice O'Donnell this
morning for the Grand Jury. The checks
were not endorsed by Mailly and there is
nothing to show that he is the maker OF
them. But they are worthless, all the
same, and Mailly passed them. The man
with Mailiy when they were cashed is
Thomas Leslie. He has not yet been
arrested. Mailly denies That he knew the
checks to be worthless when he offered
ham.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

was the year of the panic, and things
may have been a little dearer than
usual but if any green grocer asked
10 IA cents a pound for brown sugar
the chances are that he didn't sell it.
If sugar was scarce money was scarcer.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

MRS. HELEN M. COUGAR. Prohibi-
ton oratress, says with both wit and
truth that 1.-The protection of a boy is
OF as muchconcernt to the country as the
protection of a tin horn" 1t is. But
when the boy and the tin horn get to-
gether in the fullness of Thanksgiving
joy an afflicted public needs protec-
tion fro III both,
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

The Democrats will poll a very light vote this
year.-State Gazette.
When you are buried under it next
month, you will think it weighs like
Ossay.piled upon Pelion, as the late
Prince Of Denmark used to say.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

A WOMAN may generally be reli ed
upon to furnish evidence that she is a
woman, under any and ell circum-
stances. When Carrie Brown was ar
raigned in Brooklyn yesterday,
charged with shooting the lover who
had wronged her, she entered a plea
of not guilty, and immediately added
she was ''glad she shot him."
1t is to be hoped no mawkish senti-
mentality will save Carrie from being
sent to jail for the next twenty years
at least.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22
MEETINGS..

Annual MEETING OF THE STOCKHOLDERS
"A Of the New JERSEY Steamboat Com any Will
BE- held at Taylor's otel, in Jersey City. on Tues
day. the 10th day of november next. at II M. for
the g lection Of seven directors for ensuing year.
GEoRGE S. RIGGS,
Secretary.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

THE Democrats of New Jersey this year fear
nothing so much as an educational campaign.
This is why the orders have been sent out to all
their organs not TO tackle the facts and figures
given in the address of the Republican State
Committee. State Gazette.
Well, we tackled a few of your ''facts
and figures" yesterday, and we don't
notice any great readiness on your
part TO prolong the operation.
The Jersey City news. (Jersey City [N.J.]) 1889-1906, 1891-10-22

IT is said that the Republicans in
this county have at last corraled can
didates, but it won't be a betting
point until the official ticket is pub
lished by Editor Mclaughlin.