The Indianapolis journal., 1891-02-20
Those Fsvoring Immediate Effect of Such q
Law First Defeated, but on Close Mar
gin Succeed at the Finish.
The Speaker Goes Too Far in a Wish to
Helpthe Other Side with His Power.
Measure for Deputy FIsh Commissioners Put
Aside-Ths Magee Loan Bill Passed-NO
NOn-PsrtisaD Control--Odds and Ends
A SCENE OF TURMOIL.
speaker Nibisck Raises q Row Among thu
Radical Fee aud SALARY Members.

Radical Fee and Salary Members.
The fee aid salary bill. as amended by
the special COMMITTEES. came mp as . special
order In the House yesterday afternoon.
The minority report of Mr.. Lindemuth rec
ommending reductions in recorders charges
and feee IN civil cases and the settlement OF
estates. was tossed over to the members by
the Chair. and tLey proceeded to kill it as
expeditiousiy as possible. Mr.. Lindeuuth
made an able argument in support of his
report, saying that the real saving to the
people lay not in cutting down the salaries
Of county officers, but In reducing the fees
charged for services. as comprehended by
his amendments. The people were de-
msnding reform, and hero was
the opportunity TO . give 1t to
them. Not only would litigants be saved
much money. but heirs of estates would
not find their interests practically conts-
Gated by high charges. es was 80 frequently
the case under the present exorbitant fee
system Ii. In Ohio, 81 was enough for re-
cording mortgage. 1t should be enough in
this state. For the purpose of showing
how little tho cut in the salaries of county
officers relieved the people of taxation bur-
dens. Mr.. Lindeunuth said that, in order To
reduce taxes mill on 500. 1t would be nec-
essary to reduce the ssla rIes in the several
counties here gwen the following amounts.
these counties being taken at rsndOm:
Allen. S25. $50; Bart tholomew. 50 7s1; Elkhart,
ti26se; Knox, slo.60; Marion. s,5.SSs;
Nigo. S24S S67; Wayne S23.O64.
Messrs. Bowman. CuIlop and Faulkner
supported the minority report. uTglng that
the reduction of fees proposed by Mr. Lin
der "a Il A. rhor h.
pie demanded and ought TO have. 1t was
the keynote of reform In this direction.
they said. and they were heartily IN accord
with the minority report. Other Demo
motion TO table the report barely got
through by vote OF So yeas to Al nays
TIME OF TAKING EFFECT.
After this the minority report of Mr..
Brown. of Steuben, was turned over TO the
House for disposition. This report. in
brief. recommended the striking out of the
two sections of the amended bill providing
that the law shall not apply TO State or
county officers elected prior TO it's enact
ment. Mr.. Mccullough moved that the re-
port be tabled. and the roll-csll on that
question partook of the character of q dis
cussion. about every other member taking
OCCASION to- explain his vote at moro or less
length-generally more. Ii took forty min
utss to complete the call of the roll, which
resulted IN the defeat of the motion to table
By the rlose vote of - nays to AZ yeas.
1t was evident the vote would be very
ciose. sDd when the call Was completed
several changes from yea 10 nay were
hailed with delight By the opponents of the
motion to table. The roll was called for
verIficatlon, and then the names OF the ab-
sentees were called, and when the result
showed that the motion to table had been
defeated by one vote the enth usiasm among
the ultra reformers was evidenced in a sort
OF cumulative applause which had been
steadily growing from the time the first
m.mbsr Voted mo" on the question, :.
take the floor on the substitution of
the minority for the majority report.
He advocated this substitution, saying
pass and take effect at once; if q
bad one it should be defeated. There
should be no putting of it's going into
effect two. four or six years be people
demanded this reform and demanded IL at
once, not several years hence. They had
been promised such legislation and had
not understood that relief was TO be q
matter of the future. He urged the men,
bers 70 deal fairly with their constituents
anil not to break faith with them: to do
Justice To the people of Indiana The burden
should be hIted ct once. and II there was
virtue in the law It's enactment could not
come TOO soon. but If there was no virtue
in it it could not be too quickly thrown into
the waste basket
Mr. FIppen opposed the minority report
in a long rambling speech. at the conclusion
question. The demand was sustsined and
the roll-call resulted in the defeat of the
minority report by the following vote:
Yeas-Adams, Alder. Aikman, Baker. Beau
brown Of steuben. Bryant, Byrkit, Cullop. Doll
Farlow, Faulkner. Gent, Gill, Guthrie. Harlan.
Hay. Heathman, Hench. Hess, HonRham, John
son of Carroll, johnson OF Dearborn, Kelley,
Kern KYLE. Latta, Morris OF Parke Moss, Os-
born. Osterman. Parker. Patton, Peters. Roscoe,
Trinlhle. Troy, Watson and wright-46.
Calvert. Carroll. Claypooi, Curtis, Ebert, Erwin.
gard. HarreIl. Higgins. HUFFMAN, lnman. Kelle-
her. Lee. Leyden, LindeInuth. McCullough. Mo
ry. Officer. oldham. OppenheIm. Pickhardt.
Robbins. short, stnll, Themes, Thompson, Tim
mons; yoist: Wells; wit,enoerger' wilson, Work.
The call of the roll " as followed with the
closest attention by both members and
spectators, and when. through gu error in
recording in the affirmative several mem-
bers who had voted against the minority
,--Art. it was made to appear that the lat
Ter had received fifty votes and
was successful, it's supporters re-
nswed 1heir enthusiastic demonstra-
tIons. They were tribe too early,
however. and the corrections demanded by
several members changed the result OF the
call and blighted the hopes of the contin-
gent which is pursuing ALI Ofnce-holders.
present and future. with the relentless puT-
pose of making them work for less money.
Mr. Cullop tried for an adjournment, but
the Chair paid no attention to him; and the
majority report was then concurred In.
EXCITEMENT OVER AMENDMENTS.
Mr.. Cullop was on hand. however. with
sn amendment providing that the law
should take effect Aug. l. 1891. in support of
which he spoke for twenty minutes or
r,ore. On motion of ar. Moon the amend
plent was tabled by vote OF Is yeas TO 4S
rays.
BY this time the excitement was at fever
beat. and the Immediate effect members
were getting pretty mad. Several of them
ATTEMPTED fruitlessly, to get recognition
10 otter amendments and there were two or
three motions TO adjourn. which the Chair
failed to notice. Amid the termoil Mr..
Zoercher was recognized with motion
that the bill be engrossed as amended, upon
which motion he demanded the previous
question. This demand was the signal for
burst of ind gnation on all Sides and the
scene was a lively one. Twenty members
were ON their feet clsmoring for recogni-
tlon and protesting agains gag rule 1t
did no good. however, for the Chair calmly
proceeded to put to vote the question
OF snstainipg the demand for the
previo1s question. A dozen members de-
maDded the yeas and nays. but the CHAIR
would not order roll-call. an autoeratic
exercise of authority that was greeted with
howls of Indignation The opposition had