The weekly Floridian. [volume] (Tallahassee, Fla.) 1867-19??, 1891-05-27

judge Of that, and the sense of the cam
Gus on that can only be determined bv a
vote. Therefore l call for vote. and I
insist that motion to adjourn sine die is
not debatable, and is in order.
Senator Wall asked the ruling Of the
chair as to whether simple motion to ad.
journ would take precedence.
The Chair-Yes.
Senator VAIL would ask another
Would simple motion to adjourn carry
US to the next regular sittinge
The Chair-I ann trying to find out
from the secretary. but he has not yet
found the original resolution.
The Secretary (Mr Bogue of DuvaD-
Mr.. Chairman, have not been able to
find it, but will state that it was to adjourn
to the next time at $50 D. m.
Senator Myers-Do we adjourn to $50
p. m. OF the fallowin4 day on a simple
motion to adjourni
The Chair-No. l could not call the
caucus together on motion to adjourn
without time set.
Mr.. Clark of Polk insisted that motion
to adjourn sine die is not amendable or de-
batable.
Mr.. Hooker of Lake-We are sitting here
under ordinary parliamentary law, and I
can find no rule in Jefferson's Manual to
sustain the chair in entertaining motion
TO adjourn sine de-
MIR. Burford asked If any democratic
convention or caucus had ever adjourned
till the business was dOnef
Mr.. Hutchinson of Putnam-Is this in
order? Give us ruling please.
The Chair-If the gentleman from Put
nam will give me rule will answer his
question.
Mr.. Hutchinson-I have sent for the
rules and will send them up when they
come.
Mr.. Clark of Polk said all bodies had
the right to adjourn sine die, and make
dissolution of themselves whenever the
majority wished to do so. The caucus
had the right to entertain any motion
duly seconded which pertained to it's bus
ness. IL the caucus thought the business
finished then it could adjourn or not in
its discretion. Hasn't the same power
which created the caucus the right to
dissolve it? l challenge all the distin.
guished parliamentarians on this floor to
show me a rule why this chair cannot
entertain a motion to adjourn at any
time. The gentleman from Volusia says
he has not found il.
Mr.. Dougherty-I have now though.
Mr.. Hocker-Mr. Chairman, hold thai
the burden of proof rests with the gentle
man who afllrms this proposition, not OF
those who deny II. They have not fur
ished the chair with the authority 70 jns'
tify the confederation 0f the pr0p0aition tO
| adjourn sias dis and. hold that the ebail
cAanor entertain i I'LL the authority i
shown. -
Mr.. Clark of, Polk--The chair has al
ready entertained tne motion and there
fore il rests with our opponents to show
that it was wrong. <s
l. Hocker-Does the gentleman hold tha
the chair cannOts correct an error.
Mr.. Clark-No sir, but the question
now is whether the motion to adjourn is
amendable. | insist that we confne our
selves to the question, which is simply
whether the question of adjournment
sine die is debatable. -
The Chair-The Chair so understands
it.
Mr. Burford of Marion-Mr. Chairman,
this caucus adopted the twO-thirds rule
by unanimous vote. Afterwards each
member pledged himself not to elect a
senator till he had received the votes OF
two-thirds OF this caucus. Therefore,
would ask if, in the present status, the
chair can entertain a motion which abro-
gates two solemn resolutions of this body
Senator Biowoe-Suppose the cOnven-
ton sat up 10 the day OF election; must
nobody vote?
Mr.. Buriord-This is not a nomi-
mating convention, but it is composed 'ol
the eli. ctors themselves, and the case is
different.
Senator Yancey-The gentleman from
Marion has gone outside OF the question:
which is whether motion TO adJourn
sine die can be entertained. would state
that any motion to >perpetuate the exist
euce oi this body would itself be out ol
order and OF no effect. 1t is mistake
that the motion to adjourn abrogates any
resolution or rule Of this CAUCUS.
Senator Wall would ask what
would be the effect of this motion on the
senatorial question Would it not be to
elect without caucus nomipstlon!
Senator Yancey--Yes, sir; l hope So
The law SAYS we should come here to elect
and We should elecr. Gentlemen, iasist
that the caucus has no moral or legal right
to nuliify the pledge taken. feet II my
duty 10 elect and thereby do the thing we
have sworn to do In our oath of office. NO
matter what may be the effect OF our
action. we violence 10 no rule, but
/ simply do what askSbQdies have the ugnt
.ft0 des T am snfp pfised .t0s hear any gAr
4 tlcinan assert that this body has NO right
to dissolve itself. It could have done %
at any time. But insist that motion
to adjourn sine die 10 not amendeDie ano
no substitute can be onered. Lei tne
other side show the authority, for the
burden of proof i with them:
frcr, raka Tor havin0 asked for his au-
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