The Newberry herald and news. (Newberry, S.C.) 1884-1903, 1891-06-25
MEN AND MEASURES.
Congressman Tillman, Says the Third
Party Is Republican Scheme and
the Sub-Trcasury is all Nonsense.
fCharleston World. !

SPAETANBURG, June 1S.-Hon.
George D. Tillman, member of congress
from the second district, is in the city.
He is spending the time with his sisters,
Mrs. SweariDgen and Mrs. Simpson.
Your correspondent called on him this
afternoon. Mr.. Tillman said he had 10
desire to appear in print at this time
but that he had very positive convlc-
tions on great many measures now
before the people. He intimated that
he proposed to take a very active part
in the doings of the next congress, and
that he would be heard from.
Several topics of g ea,interest at this
time were discussed md therepresenta-
tive smoke out in uumistakaDle tones
on each. The writer feels sure he will
not be a betrayer if, in genera! way,
he gives the substance Of the conrersa-
ton.
The first thing your correspondent
mentioned to Mr.. TiIlnlan was the
Third party. He said: THAT is only
the first movement on the part of the
Western Republicans, which will soon
land them safe in the Democracy. They
are not willing TO acknowledge that
they have been in error for thirty years,
and only talk Third party to sort Of
ease their conscience, as they think it
would neverdo to enter the Democratic
party horse foot and dragoon."
The correspondent then asked what
had caused the Western Republicans to
desire change. He replied with enl
phasis: "Self interest, heavy taxes, not
enough money and the domination, for
so long. by eastern capitalists"
He thought the third party would
never amount,to anythingi in the South,
or anywhere else; that it was Matched
out by and is under the patronage Of
impractical men, great many of whom
have made failure Of everything they
have ever undertaken.
"What about free coinage Of silver?"
was suggested.
"My position on that measure is well
known" said Mr.. Tillman. Il stood
by it when the entire delegation from
this State, except w. H. Perry, was
opposed to IT," He declared his abid-
ing faith in the success of the measure.
Your correspondent then timidly
suggested the "sub-treasury scheme"
1.-The merest nonsense" said he, "a
day-dream, with positively nothing in
it; hatched out by set of mparative-
ly inexperienced men in a. short time,
when it tawaaidi nave taken congress
.severa months, using its best equipped
brain, to have originated any measure
anything like that"
The conversation gradually drifted
from the political measures to men. He
thought Cleveland,stands no chance at
all for the nomination, and would cer-
calmly be defeated if nominated. Ou;-
side of the fact that he thought Cleve-
land is not the man for the office, he
said no army liked to follow q defeated
general.
"Who will receive the nomination."
"Well, that depends somewhat. If
Campbell carries Ohio at the next elec-
ton, I would not he surprised if he
should be nominated; if not then Hill
viii! get it; either New York or Ohio.
German will not be selected. He comes
from too small state"
"What effect does that have on an
election?"
"It is estimated to be worth from
three to five per cent. Of the popular
vote"
Mr.. Tillman thought Pattison stood
no chance, coming from Pennsylvania,
which is ever republican in national
elections. He considers Gov. Campbell
a splendid man, good organizer, fine
politician, man who had made con-
Siderable money, honestly too, and
man with a clean record.
"What about the speakership of the
next house?"
II think Crisp will be elected; con-
slider him the best asalitisd and ahlest,
man. Wilson, of West Virginia, comes
from too small State-only four votes
though he is the most scholarly man
in the house,"
An allusion was made incidentally tc
the fight in his own district and the
effort made to defeat him. He said they
had been trying to do that all the while,
but that he had never been defeated for
al office, and never expected to be. He
is hale and hearty, and his age rests
lightly on his shoulders He leaves to-
day for his home.