Morning journal and courier., 1891-10-23
NEWS BY TELEGRAPH.
 From All Quarters. THREATENED WITH EXILE. The Pope's Position in Rome
 Becoming Shaky. AREvoLUTIoN IN PARAGUAY FoILED. An Interesting Budget of s Foreign News.
 THE FLOODS IN ENGLAND AND SPAIN Capture of Four Notorious
 Train Robbers.
.A REVOLUTION IN PARAGUAY BOILED.
THE FLOODS IN ENGLAND AND SPAIN
THE PopE,s POSITION IN ROME.

IdlH llUUUCISs
 THE POPE,S POSITION IN ROME. Radical Change as a Result of the
 Recent Pantheon Dis0rders-What 6 Prominent Cardinal Has to Say to
 an Associated Press Correspondent. ROME, Oct. 2atIn an interview with an Associated Press correspondent, one of the most influential of the cardinals, who is an intimate friend of the pope, said in substance:
 "Our position in Rome has undergone a and of the disorders of October 9. The investigation which we have made has proved that the demonstration against the French pilgrims, justified under chimer- ical pretext, was prepared and arranged in advance by the government and Menot- ta Garibaldi, against the radical republi- can demonstration of Nice and against the pope. The king, the ministers and the liberal monarchy party were fearful of the consequences which might arise from the Franco Italian alliance and the alliance of the republic with the radical republi- cans. We also know that the triple alli- ance has been informed of this game and that it approves of this manifestation as a @ reply to the fetes at Nice and as direct attack upon the pope and the pilgrims. It was a desired affirmation, premeditated, of monarchical right against the French re- public and against the status quo at Rome.
 M. de Lucca, under secretary of state of the interior department, and Menotti Garibaldi arranged the terms of this con spiracy.
 The Italian government sent to all the mayors circular letter in order to add weight to the manifestation. We have re- ceived the most pungent details in regard to the reception given to the confidential letters. Many mayors were embarrassed and did not know how to reply"
 "But why has so large part of the monarchical and liberal world favored these outrages upon French pi1grimsa" asked the correspondent.
 ''The answer is that the government wishes to give to the world the impression that Rome is opposed to the pope and that Italy will not have any reconcilement with France or any amicable understanding be- tween the vatican and the French repub- lie. The demonstration was the prolonga- tion or the result of the republican and democratic policy of the pope. You can not imagine the anxieties of our liberal and official world in face of the isolation of the holy see. Our liberals had expected that the religious war waged in France would prevent all rising of opinion in this country, and that it would result, sooner or later in a violent rupture with the holy see Since the famous toast of Cardinal Lavigerie and the demonstra- tions of Cronstadt, all our official liberal and secta- rian-has been living in state of trouble. It felt it's edifce, labori- ously erected, to be cracking and threaten ing ruin. All hope, all illusions were van ishing, and then came the scandals of October g. You. may be astonished. at the folly of the government of the liberals in driving away pilgrims. when it was to their interest to favor pilgrimages and because this source of revenue for Rome and for Italy are now ruined. But officially Italy desired to teach a..lesson, to show that she has made up her mind. to admit all ex- cesses and go to all extremes, and that far from adapting herself to the new situation she would prefer assassination, the exiling of the pope and the pillage of the vatican. Such is the threat contained in that crisis, and in those blows from sticks bestowed upon the pilgrims. Leo XIII perfectly un- derstood the meaningit was intended to convey to him. Referring to those affairs the pope said: I am no longer prisoner; I am hostage. l am threatened with ex- ile and assassination if I will not capltu- late before the enemy.
 'The pope saw correctly. The manifes- tations of Rome signify that official Italy desires to place scandal between the pope and the faithful; official Italy desires to sequestrate him, to restrict his liberty and she declares by this that if the pope does not yield he will be killed or will be driven from Rome. It is Rome closed to the pilgrims or the pope expelled from Rome. Official Italy sees with apprehension the progress which the pope is making not only in the world at large, but also ir manifesto of February 1, 1889, and the | explosion of the powder magazine of Monte Verde the inhabitants o1 Rome have commenced to draw positive parallels between the consequences of the l status quo and the policy of the vatican The new regime has brought misery to thi' l city, when, in days gone by, Rome was continually en fete. When the libera | party saw the people fraternizing with thu l pilgrim, and found above all confronted by l the incomparable manifestations O popularity exhibited towards the holy father, it was afraid.
 It said to itself that an end must be pu | to these instructive practices. The scan dals were principally acts of weakness an' despair Everybody regrets those Pan theon incidents, but nobody cares to bray the anger of the government.
 twill the pope accept this new situa tion," the cardinal was asked.
 "Never," was the firm reply, "eve
 though his life is threatened since tn
 vatican is denounced and placed in stat
 of siege. But the conscience of the peopl is incorruptible and infexible. His energ is indemitable. He, the passionate love l of peace, does not recoil before any thres
 or any responsibility. The more one trie
 to exercise premeditated influence owe
 him the more headstropg he becomes. 4
 each direct blow from official Italy, at eac
 declaration of war, he, has replied by
 bold act, firmly and violently"
 The cardinal further said that he di
 not know what the pope would do even u
 ally. The pope had sent a note to pap
 nuncios touching upon the real signii
 canoe of the Pantheon scandals. Whe
 the public mind well understood the meal ing of the liberal demonstration the poI
 would act. The cardinal said that u Pantheon disturbances will have the mo l serious consequences for Italy, for the va ican and for the situation in general. IT
 relations between Italy and the pope, 1 tween the faithful and Rome and, perhap
 between the state and vatican, will be SCI ously modified. The cardinal stated tn
 nothing has yet been decided as to u pope's leaving Rome.. but everything
 ready for such step. Everybody is pc
 suaded that the vatican's adversaries w
 go on to the bitter end, The pope is ava
 of the secret machinations of the trip
 alliance and will act accordingly. He al
 remarked that recent events have caused