Fort Worth gazette. [volume] (Fort Worth, Tex.) 1891-1898, 1891-10-14
AS Well as Dangerous to Think
a Divine Manifestation
is HAM MER1NG AND PUSHING
For Thing-God Made Male and Female,
and Each Has Place in the Church.
The Presbyterian Synod at Kansas City
Takes High Ground In Regard to
American observation-disclosures
ica1 Methodist Council.
The Methodists,

church, South, Nashville, Tenn. presided
at the opening of the sixth days session Of
the Methodist council. The resolution re-
ferred to committee concerning the joint
action of Methodist missionary bodies
working in the same fields, was reported
back favorabiy, and a committee was APP
pointed to consider the subject.
The council then proceeded to the order of
the day, the subject, 1.-The Church and Her
Agencies being the same as that discussed
yesterday.
Rev. r. Travis, general mission secretary
of the Primitive Methodist church, Eng
land, read paper on the place and power
of lay agency in the church.
The subject was discussed by Rev Dr.
Walters and Rev. j. Hugh Morgan of Eng
land, Rev. Thomas Apologize of New Jer-
sey and others, and recess was then taken.
The discussion of the general subject of
1.-THE Church and Her Agencies" was con-
tinued at the afternoon session. Rev. DIR.
D. ]. Walter of London, secretary of the
Wesleyan Methodist conference, presided
Rev. Dr.. Ben J. Frye of the Methodist
Episcopal church, St Louis, and editor of
the Central Christian Advocate,
read a paper on the SUBJ
iect of Women's Work in the Church.
He said that women among Jews were
more highly regarded than among other
nations, but it was not until Jesus
entered upon his ministry that women were
admitted to the degree Of regard that has
since prevailed. There was a ministry
of women in the church in
apostolic times. This became an
established order, and was of assistance
to the church. Protestant churches have
failed to secure the full measure of help
from their women. They had been afraid
of the charge of following papal practices.
Methodism, as it grew, had pro-
duced many women worthy of association
with the mother of Wesley.
We boast of the energy and
courage of this century but in Christian
lands there Were thousands of persons who
had no knowledge of Christ. A hundred
should enter the work where now one was
engaged and woman must take. a prominent
part in it. The place where children were
born and raised was not open to man,
but when that fact had been
realized, when women organized and sent
female missionaries abroad, men could deal
with the victims of mems lust. The church
could not do the work before it without the
aid of women. The way to determine the
proper sphere of woman's work in the
church was rule that applied to men, the
individual fitness for their duties.
Rev. j. W. Lewis of the NJ. E. church,
South, said that it was a bold, bad, danger
Gus fallacy to believe that because large
majority of people were hammering and
pushing after 4 thing it was Il manifestation
of the divine wish. God created the male
and female.
Mr. ]. B. Slack of London held that
women must discover their own work in
the church and that without help.
Rev. DIR. Hass of the NJ. e. church,
South, invited anybody who had higher
estimate of women than he had himself
to show his face. Scarcely had
the words been uttered before large
proportion of the delegates stood up in an
swer, amid applause from the others. The
doctor was little nonplussed, but contin-
ued with his remarks, holding that if God
had intended man and woman to do the
same work he would have made them alike.
He, too, called attention to ST. Paul's
words.
Rev. DR.. Hamilton of New York said that
it was wrong representation to say that
men wanted women to become bishops. He
wanted them to take the work for which
they were specially fitted. Rules OF sex
would not invalidate the gifts Of God.
On this question the greatest expounder of
the Methodist church had held that Paul
must not conflict with Jesus. 1t was not
for men who sat here to force the conflict.
Mr.. Atkinson, NJ. P, taking the floor, an
imadverted upon the chairman of the morn
ing session as unfair, but when the coun-
Gil disapproved he proceeded to characterize
DR.. Hass' argument as logical jugglery,
saving that if man and woman had been
created alike there would be no man or
woman.
;Rev. Dr. Reid of the Methodist Episcopal
church, South of the Japonese mission paid
"a high tribute to the work of female
missionaries that had come under his own
observations. He asked for them the ulti-
mate privilege that when she had brought
a soul to Christ she should be permitted to
perform the rite OF baptism. TApplausei.
ssss1Hr. ". Z. Brown of London said the dis
cussion called to his mind a question once
put to him by q voter in England. ssWhat
authority he said, shave you, Mr..
Brown, for preaching2'' He had answered
that the power and ability to preach was
his authority He would make this answer
when questioned as to the admission of
women into the ministry. They could
preach the word and lead souls to
Christ 1t had been proved. This is
the only authority that should be
patience with the narrow and bigoted yer,
sion of St. Paul's words on the subject. If
literally rendered it would prevent women
from being married in a church, inasmuch
as it forblds women to speak in church.
Rev Stewart Hoosen of England said
that his church had had for the last eighty
years lady preachers among them and they
had honored the church. He did not plead
for an allowance to them of an exceptional
position, but if God had given them the
ability to preach, they should preach.
Ladies had produced many converts and
they were Paul's credentials
Rev DR.. Oldham held that the opponents
of the woman's side had got of their share
'of platitudes and proceeded to show them.
He held that there was need of woman's
Judgment in church work.
Rev. Dr. Wood of the A NJ E. Zion
church, at the risk of telling old
time anecdotes, said that his mother
believed that God had purpose
in taking rib from man to create woman.
1t was not to put her under mans foot nor
above his head, but that she might stand
side by side with him in all good works.
His church had no trouble with the woman
question. They accorded her exact equality,
and if she had call to preach, she
preached.
Secretary King of the business commit
tee reported the following resolution:
We have heard with pleasure the pur-
pose to erect as memorial to this second
ecumenical council on some suitable site in
this city bronze statue of John Wesley;
Resolved, that we approve of the enter
prise and commend it to the consideration
of our people.
Upon motion of DR.. King the council ap-
pointed a committee, headed by Bishop
Fowler Of San Francisco, to raise funds to
carry out the purpose.
The council then adjourned.
Strong Resolutions.
KANSAS CRY, Mo-, Oct. 13.-The Presby-