The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1891-11-29
TEE ACKNOWLEDGMENT SUNDAY

deal of free thought and much spiritual
But we are making steady Roadway
against that. If you could 90 among the
London workingmen as do, you would
see this. There are more than ], 100000
Catholics in England now, and they are
increasing in number. What is more,
they really practice their religion"
''And the other churches?"
..Ah, my son." said the cardinal, smil-
ingly, ST am too old TO throw stones. 1t
Is no part of my duty to criticise those
who are without our lines"
And then the question Of temperance
came up.
England sober" said the aged church
man, lis England happy and contented.
If We could MAKE the English workman
total abstainer, we could settle the most
serious of the social problems that con-
front us now. / have worked toward this
end for very many years, and with some
success. But ii IS fight against odds.
The drunkenness and the misery growing
out OF it here in London makes my heart
sick at times. But the Catholic church is
against the traffic in rum, and will con-
tinue TO be- and time will tell many things.
Here in London our priests are preaching
total abstinence all the time, and to con-
siderable effect. I am glad to notice the
strength of the same movement in
America"
The cardinal takes very hopeful view
of the labor outlook, and he is peculiarly
competent to speak on the matter. In his
opinion workingmen and their employers
are coming closer together all the time.
when employers extend exact justice
to their workmen and vice versa we will be
through with labor troubles in the MAN,"
he said. From basis of common justice
both may arise to q better understanding,
aud | think such an era is approaching.
The position of the Catholic church is
plain. Leo XIII. in his old age is giving
his whole mind to these questions. In
America Cardinal Gibbons is doing all he
can to improve the relations between labor
and capital, and here in England We are
doing the same. Then you will notice
everywhere \ tendency to arbitrate where
it is at all possible. Take it all in all, see
no reason TO fear for the future"
On the Irish question, as on others, Car
dinal Mannlng's opinions are clear cut.
He did not discuss persons. but spoke gen.
orally.
II am an Englishman, you know, to the
core, and I am not separatist," he said,
"but l know and love the Irish peop pie
Since the time of Henry VIII. they have
been governed by force. Injustice
naturally provoked evil passions. Kind
and equal laws would long ago have set
tied the Irish question, and it is only by
extending such laws that tranquility will
be thoroughly restored to that country"
The cardinal did not seem to think over
much Of an Irish parliament, as it is gen.
orally understood. He seemed TO favor a
chamber that would attend to merely local
legislation. He was not inclined to dis
cuss the present split in the Irish party,
but contented himself with saying that he
thought in the end the Irish would work
out their own salvation.
He spoke of the educational question,
and on it took the ground usually held by
orthodox Catholics, and in the end he said
in the clear. precise manner that is charac-
teristic of the man:
81 have no faith in an undenominatlonal
religion. 1t means shape that shape
hath nome"
At this point in our conversation the
cardinal seemed uneasy. He had given
me great deal of time, so l arose to go.
The aged prelate did the same
TELL the American people" he said, ''to
fear God and make their country a pros
porous land, inhabited by God-fearing
people. A blessing upon all men," and I
left him with that benediction.
Very interesting Is trip through the
cardinals house. In the chapel is glass
case with an especially valuable collection
of relics, among them being the white silk
mitre of Thomas a'Becket. Then in a
piece of crystal is a fragment of the col
umn against which our Lord is said to
have been scourged, and three small pieces
of wood labeled:
Behold the wood of the cross on which
our Savior was hung"
In another room there are many busts
and works Of art. There is statue of the
Virgin made from cannon taken at Sebas-
topol and q large number of testimonials
given to the cardinal from time to time,
the latest being one presented by the Jews
last October. The cardinals bedroom is
on the top of the house and is the plainest
OF all. A camp bed, q wardrobe, a chair
and a washssand are the articles of furni-
ture. Adjoining this is the cardinals ora
tory, In which is set up q small altar at
which he says mass There is another
near by for the use of visiting bishops.
Such are the surroundings of the head Of
the Roman Catholic hierarchy in Great
Britain and such the mode of his life. now
drawing to a peaceful close. Certainly it
has been one that men of any or of no sect
can scarcely fail to admire for its simplic-
ity and usefulness. The appointment of q
coadjutor to Cardinal Manning does not
mean that the appointee would succeed to
the red hat on Cardinal Manning's death.
The cardinalate may be left vacant indefi-
nitely and probably will be.