Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1891-01-19
THE FIGHT RENEWED.
Tactics of Obstruction in the Senate
Still Pursued.
MR.. GORMAN RAISES a FURRY.
In the House Time is Also Fritz
tered Away.
MR.. SPRINGER AND SPEAKER.
R. G0RMAN RAISES a FURRY.
MIR. SPRINGER AND SPEAKER.
THE SENATE.


thized with by Senators of both parties, and,
among others, by Mr. ingalls,, whose own re-
election appears to be in such danger.
Is AN APPEAL DEBATABLE!
Immediately after the reading of the journal
Mr.. German took the floor to argue in favor of
correction of the Record of Saturday where it
described the action taken upon an amendment
to the elections bill.
Mr.. German availed himself of the occasion
to argue against the correctness of a decision
OF the Vice President during Fridays's session
to the effect that an appeal from the decision
was not debatable because the question itself
on which the decision was made was an unde-
batable one. Mr.. German admitted that rule,
although in direct conflict with all the author
titles now obtained until 1884. when the rule
was modified so as to make it conform to the
general parliamentary law.
Mr.. Hoar inquired what the motion was.
Mr.: German said that it was motion to cor
rect the journal.
Mr.. Hoar desired to have the motion stated
formally.
Mr.. Spooner thought that Mr. German
might be allowed to go on and state his views
without any particular formality.
Mr.. German expressed his Indebtedness to
Mr.: Spooner who, he said, was always frank
and fair.
Mr.. Hoar explained that if Mr. German de-
sired to have the journal amended. either SUBJ
stantial or formal, he wished to have il stated.
If, on the other hand, he wished unanimous
consent to proceed with his remarks he (Mr.
Hoar) would not object.
MR.. GoRMAS STATES HIS POINT.
Mr.. German stated that under the rule. as it
stood prior to 1884, debate was not in order on
an appeal where the original question was not
debatable, but that under the change then
made a question of order might be raised at
any stage Of proceeding. and should be de-
cided without debate, subject to an appeal to
the Senate" ANY appeal taken ION any
subsequent question Of order" should be
decided without debate. 1t was per-
fectly clear, he argued, and one which
did not admit of two opinions that the rule
which had prevented debate on an appeal where
the question itself was undesirable was then
| abrogated. Addressing himself specially to the
Vice President Mr.. Gorman said that no Vice
to take any advantage or make any arbitrary
ruling in the Senate From the first Vice
President unit, now no man whom the people
had honored by an election to that Office
had ever attempted to do it and in his opinion
| no one ever would. With the Vice President s
great reputation in the financial world, in the
diplomatic service and in all the relations Of
| life he had however, but short time to become
! familiar with the rules of the Senate. 1t had
| been therefore due to the Vice President and
| due to the orderly conduct Of business that for
the moment ne (Mr. Gorman) should submit
| to his decision without more earnest protest,
| knowing that he would have the opportunity
| Of bringing the law and the facts to his
| attention and the attention of the Senate and
with a perfect belief that no pride Of
opinion or desire to be consistent would infiu-
| ence him to do injustice. There. he continued
| was the parliamentary law; there was the uni
| form decision In every case from the beginning
till now, and he trusted that the Vice Presi-
| dent would look over them and decide the
question in conformity with the precedents and
| the letter of the law itself.
MR.. EDMUNDs SAYS THE CHAIR WAS RIGHT.
Mr.. Edmunds said that he took the liberty Of
affirming, with great respect to everybody else,
| that the decision of the chair on the occasion
referred to was absolutely right in point of
parliamentary law. There was certainly no
| rule of the Senate against it, and no reason of
common sense against it. If the rule were as
Mr.. German claimed, then on motion to ad-
jOurn or go into executive session, or to lay
subject on the table, all of which were unde-
batable motions, the Senate might be kept in
session indefinitely.
Mr.. Harris differed totally from Mr. Ed
| munds.
| MIR. Hoar asked Mr.. Harris whether he held
that an appeal from a decision on a motion to
adjourn was debatable, and Mr.. Harris said that
| it clearly was, as rule No. 20 made no excep-
ton.
THE NOTION WITHDRAWN.
The discussion was kept up until 1890, when
Mr.. German withdrew his motion. The jour-
nal of Friday was approved and the morning
business proceeded with.
BILLS REPORTED.
Among the bills reported and placed on the
calendar were the following:
Senate bill to establish life-saving station
at Brant Rock, Marshfield. Mass.
Three bills to confirm agreements with the
| Sacs and Foxes, the Citizen band of Pottawat-
omies and Absentee Shawnees in Oklahoma.
THE INJECTIONS BILL TAKEN UP.
At O'Clock the elections bill was taken up as
the unfinished business, and Mr.. George took
the floor.
THE HOUSE.
The intention Of the democrats Of the House
to resort to obstructive tactics until a determi-
nation of the Senate on the elections bill was
manifested this morning, when Mr.. Bland (Mo.)
demanded the reading Of Saturdays proceed
ings in full instead of in its abbreviated form.
But the journal being short its reading con-
sumed very little time.
MR. MILLS MOVES AN AMENDMENT.
Then Mr.. Mills Texas) rose and moved an
amendment TO the journal relative to the re-
fusal Of the chair to recognize his motion to
reconsider the vote by which Fridays journal
MIR. Cannon Ol) inquired whether it was in
| order for him to move the previous question on
the approval of the journal.
The Speaker (after an examination Of Mr.
Mills motion)-This is not an amendment to
the journal.
Whereupon Mr.. Cannon demanded the pre-
yious question and was recognized by the
| Speaker.
| Then came Q chorus of democratic demands
for the reading Of the amendment.
The Speaker with apparent astonishment)-
| OIL Gentlemen, call FOR the reading of the