Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1891-01-31

however, was Tar IRON gOOut huu Nv 'ihiS'
il was difficult 10 catch the words when
fell so rapidly from his lips.
ms PRESENT PURPOSE.
"What are you here forl"
II come as the representative of the pa
per which is published in Engiand--ffrt
Russid-a paper which has for its oolec,
the awakening in the civilized nations OF
the world sentiment OF disapproyal OF the
course Of the Russian Government tow '.',nl
the peoplc of Russia. We have 10 popular
sentiment 20 which we may appeal IN our
own land in the hope that 1t may lead 10 2
modification OF the rigorous treatment OF
his subjects administered by the Gar: But
wo realize that foreicn opinion OF our
country has tremendous influence. ID
the sentiments OF other people than our
own we have found lever which we may
use 10 great advantage IN our work.
For example. we realize that what mas
come from the work of George KEENAN, mas
made an epoch in Russian history. do
NOT mean that the sentiment which ne mas
aroused has had its greatest ehect direct
upou the Gar. it has operated perhaps
more strongly upon others, upon the great
body of officials surrounding the Car ana
Il has certainly produced q great impress
con upon the entire body Of Russian Libe-
rails. The paper of which ! speak was
founded by some of the leading men OF hi'g-
land and our committee OF management IS
composed Of noted men Of both parties. !
wish 70 create In this country an interest
i'm our cause similar 20 that which Is felt IN
ENGLAND. That il what ] am here for, ana
If 1 do 10 shall consider that 1 have maze
"a very successful journey"
WHEN FORCE SHOULD BEUsED.
"Do You endorse the practices Of the
Russian terrOrists?" was the next inter-
rogatOrv which was submitted.
Tothis question Stepnjak responded with
the counter question, =" If any one or you
should have your sister fiogged what would
be your feelings what step would you
stop az 10 overturn the government that
authorized such a punishment" Then
ne wont on to describe the relations pre-
vailing in Russia between people ana
sovereign. The conditions were 80 severe,
be SAID, that they could not be tolerated.
I'VE tried the propaganda first" he con-
timed. but We got nothing from 1t ex-
cppt the most cruel and barbarous treat
ment of all who took part in IT. There 10
no other way than by the use OF force 10
get what We want and must have. and |
believe that il will in the end be better for
humanity if force shall be used than 1t
would DO if we should continue to endure.
PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
81 had my first trouble with the Gov
eminent" said Stepniak, in 1873, when
was making propaganda among the pea
SAINTS. | was ordered into exile. But
didn't leave the country. ] changed my
name and residence somewhat and still
kept on with my work. was probably
the first Of what are known as the llle-
cal people, That phrase covers, persons
who. having been ordered to leave the
-, - ,,DIar oGc11mpI UamQs
liable. If unprecedented, TO undergo severe
punishment. went TO Switzerland IN 1875
and there wrote for a leailet publication
which was circulated ID Russia. Later
returned 10 Russia. still an illegal person,
and published paper called Land ana Lt0-
erty.n -....,r
"How did you manage to escape arrest Z"
All. that was my good luck SAID Step
MAX. -,
you dare to go back to RUSSIA
" / shall 90 if l consider 1t my duty tc
" What would they do with you if they
should ind you in the country? send you
to Siberia"
Worse than that" answered Stepniak
with q smile. at might be that horrible
prison no SchussolbouTg, which is far worse
than Siberia. There's many Russlan,
can tell YOU. who would be very happy "a
be sent to Siberia rather than to Schussel-
bourg. Really | should consider that
had done very little for my country II
should only be sent to Siberia"
s1EPNIAK's REAL NAME.
"Stepniak is not your name; what Is
your name: They call You by five or slA
names III this country; which is the right
one ?"
The Russian laughed at this question
and then be answered: My name Ii
Stepniak. That is the name that | will be
known by. l was born 'Stepniak when
wrote my book Underground Russia
down in italy. | choose to conceal my
real name. Let tho Russian Government
know me as 'Stepniak.' | have neyel
done aught that | am ashamed of or re
gret, but do not wish to give my nam'
and it is my right TO Withhold IT."
THE GEAR IN PERIL.
Somebody asked what Stepniak thought
of the murder of Seliverskof by Padlewski
II don't Justify it, said Stepniak. :" Il
was not necessary. In country lik'
France there may be an appeal TO public
opinion and force is not necessary. / an
sorry that Padlewski committed the muir
der. All the same. though, l am glad tina
| he was not arrested"
The last question put to Stepniak wal
| whether or not he considered that tn
| reigning Cars life was in danger.
"Nes. | do" was the answer that CAM
with great emphasis. A great revolution
| is pending in Russia, and unless some con
cessions are speedily made to the people /
will soon come upon the country, and, de
pend upon it, rivers Of blood will iiow."
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