New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-01-24

senate I'm direct opposition TO every specific rule OF
the senate and to genera parliamentary law. No
instance In the history of legislation could be ciel
where such action had been taken had been taken
YESTERDAY. so vast and important were the results
that would follow the adoption Of the proposed rne ho
submitted to the senator from Rhode Island that there
rad not been sufficient discussion and therefore,
for the time being he objected to fix any time for It's
consideration
Mr.. Aldrch said that lie had made the suggestion
in good faith and intended to make every possible sug
geston to get early action the pending resolution
Mr. Cockreu then resumed his argument against
| the proposed rule and asked why, if it was such
good rule il was to end with this session. Why was
| n not proposed to make it permanent! 1t was use
less to try disguise it, purpose. It's Only ob!coi
was to pass the Lodge bill. But the Lodge virus
seemed to have put the Senator from Massachusetts IN
the condition of the ratcsnake blinded by it, own
| virus ApOstrophizing Mr.. Hoar, Mr. Cockicl *
claimed All, shame upon yOu my friend from MasSa-
chusetts. who attempts TO force upon the people
of Massachusetts, and OF the country the Illuminating
confession that they longer capable OF holding
| their own elections" lie then read from The ~.
Louis Republic letter addressed TO Mr.. Edmuncs by
former Republican constituent of his, now living in
Weatherford. Tex Francis Granger, appealing against
| the passage Of the Election bill.
Mr.. Edmunds said that he had never received such
a letter, and believed that 1t fabricated in order
to promote operations of resistance to the bill zap
plause)
Mr. Cockrcll said that the letter spoke for itself
and was genuine letter. lie also read from So the
Washington POST of July 10, 1890, article giving
the inside history of the Lodge Force BILL; an eX
tract from letter of Mr. Blanes adverse TO the bill
all extracts various Republican newspaper arti-
| ces cOndemning it and he wound up his speech 10y
expressing the hope that the bill would be RENTED to
its tomb where it might rest for all time TO come
(ApplauSe)
Mr. Gray next took the floor 1t was, lie said a
matter of regret him that the debate on the Election
bill had not been allowed TO proceed unlnerrupIcdN'
without the inerpositOn Of the elaspng. rude, violent
proposition now before the senate. Coming 10 ule
Election BILL Mr.. Gray asked what public opinion did
its promoters represent outside Of that opinion which
came from tight and close party organization! what
| public demand did they Representa- Mr.. sherman
asked MI GRAY what he referring to, and was told
that ii was the Election bill lie supposed. he sad
that the question before the Senate was whether a
majority should its power to transact any busl
ness or whether a minority of the Senate should ha'e
the power by the abuse Of debate, 10 prevent The ma
j0rity from expressing the Will OF the majority.
Mr. Gray resented the attempt OF the senator from
ohio 10 read Il lecture" to him to how he Should
conduct debate. The Senator's age and LONG tApc-
rence in public service gave him great many prY'
leee which he Mr Gray would be the last to ignore
but still they gave him right 10 interrupt him (Ar'
Cray administer rcprOof a. 10 the manner III
which lie addressed himself To inc question: NSUP
pressed applause -,
Mr. GRAY went on to mention number of Re
publican paper Srpoii e W W EcprDcan paper
that opposed the bill, The Omaha Bee me Mill ~
spOlis Journal Inc ST. Paul Pioneer Pres, " Inc
II. LOUIS Globe Democrat and "Ihe Denver hep"D
lean" 49,, NIL,
spoke of il a. the leading paper of Denver ard OF that
section the country and Mr. Wolcott added that It's
proprietor Nr nm wa, the :e4Iea r GUie name nmc
of the Monetary Commissioners and who, ne hopeu,
would be confirmed At the earliest oppor run ;st n.
paper had the imprinatur OF the PRESIDENT ING gen
tlenan The UNDERSTOOD had formerly been member o
Mr. WOcstt assented and remarked that the senator
from Montana M sanders had a3E ESd m Sc vgy
Hcan7 was q good man. The answer was that he was
formerly member OF this body. Isugher4 ~, ....,
Mr. Gray quoted articles from ether papers ana ron
resolutions adopted at the G9nven,ion Of thg far c
Mr Gray then proceeded to discus, The closure rule
of the English House OF Commons when lie was IN
terrupted by Mr. stewart WITH the suggestion that that
rule had been adopted without violation Of the eA
Dir. Adrich said that the English closure had been
adopted by process which would not he adopted by
'"e Mr. GRAY replied that tilt was the only way
was open to lt English House wien # wa, atlem2t9r
England generations. Inc gentleman from Rhode
Island could never succeed IN the Inlicd state, senate
the minority which sat the Democratic SIDE. up
plause in the galleries; which was promptly checked
MIR. 1dl1ch said that the people were living under
the rules Of parliamentary and constitutional laws lie
thought that no attempt would DC made 10 cAcludc
the Senator or any other senator.
Mr. HOar inquired whether the senator caimca Una
there was any difference between the constitutional
pOwer of the senate and the constitutional power 81
i House TO establish the previous question III there
were not would il be juStiabc for The minority 10
resist forcibly the previous question
Mr. GRAY replled tina Of course ii would not. ne
had seen no proposition that the minority Nh0ul1
forcly resist any measure that II was IN the power
of the majority 10 make under the Constitution ana
the laws He wanted preserve AT least III one DOdS
of this Congress the freedom Of speech. Inc ne
pubcans said that the power Of 0bstIic ION must nc
nut down and taken from the minority. Let me
hover of obstruction be destroyed and free parha
nenrary government would also be DESTROYED Oh
English. speaking country. Closure had been adopted
I'm England in order that Irishmcn might be gagged
in the House Of Commons when they attcmP "a 10
assert that freedom Of speech which belonged to them
as representatives. Of their nation and OF their pcopc
Let gentlemen tel the naturalized citizens tina ina
was the example they following III OTucr 10
destrot home rule in this country.
MIR. iOar inquired whether the closure rule III
England had been adopted under the Iehd OF
Mr. Gladstone, the present leader Of the Home Rule
party today but who had no changed his opinion IN
that respect.
Mr. GRAY replied that he trusted that the con
version that took place in the great English statesman
in 1882 wOnlS take place In some equally dlS-
tngusled American statesmen in 1891. daughter
Mr.. stewart then took the floor; but The hour OF q
having arrived. the Senate took recess until 10 NOR
row at IL O'Clock.