Delaware gazette and state journal. (Wilmington, Del.) 1883-1902, 1891-07-16

Vi Insists That lie Was Riisquotcd.
HtIADELrnIA, July 10.-The sub-com-
Eee of the finance committee of CITY
ncils that is inqnring into the failure
The Keystone National II. ni and the
ifsof ex-City Treasurer John Bardsley
iAprotracted session this afternoon
tInhin witnesses were Robert NJ. Nc
de, oity editor of the Pubiic Ledger: Will
u1y, Mexican, editor-in-chief of the
tepaper, and Postmaster-general Wan
hker. The testimony of Mr.. MeWade
Nf. Mexican had reference to two
Einents obtained by the former from
daley on June 18th and 10th, four days
Ere the accused city treasurer made his
ylic statement in court when brought
for sentence. Mr.. Wanamaker, after
lying emphatically statements made by
rdsley to Mr., McWade which reflected
her severely on his tWanamaker's) ac-
nSf in connection with the Keystone
pk's troubles, explained fully his CON
tiOD with the 1928 shares of the Key
ne Bank stock which the stubs in the
Mhcate book showed had been issued in
tWanamaker's name.
M ORIGIN OF THE STATEMENT.
As st previous meetings of the commit
the room was crowded to suifocation
h men, many of them prominent in
affairs of the city who stood attentive
siers to the testimony. Mr.. McWade
the first witness. He said in answer
questions that he had been intimately
nainted with Bardsley for nearly
nty years. He went TO the county
son on Thursday, June 18th, and inter
wed the imprisoned ex-city treasurer,
wing first, through another person, OBJ
ned Bardsley's consent for the visit. II
IS his practice to deny himself TO ali
sitors. Bardsley talked freely and I'M
rstood that the interview was for publ
Ion. Mr.. McWade took no notes. but
lpte out the conversation in his office
aileit was fresh in his memory He sat
i the step leading into Bardsleys cell
I'd Mixed to him through the grating of
ID door. He told Bardsley at the begin.
lnE THAT In view OF certain charges that
i'd been made in the newspapers he
ought it proper for him to make a full
atefnent, particularly as to what became
v the S9i5,000 deposited and which had
sappeared, the charge being made that
had been stolen. Bardslev expressed u
illingness to make a full statement.
WHY IT WAS NOT Published.
Afftr McWade had written out the first
tteInen he said consultation was held
tNeen Mr.. Mexican, himself and another
efnber Of the editorial force of the Ledger
ld'after full deliberation and discussion
WAS decided not to publish it,
Q0mmitteeman Hicks-Why was it de-
Qtu not 10 use itP
H. McWade--Because strong reference,
IlBopported by facts, was made to certain
QNp]e. II was therefore decided that it
x>iild be unjudicious to use it. Bardsley
I3Poth statements made use of hcarsay
MARKS
Nh. Mexican was not sworn. He said
1at as editor of the Ledger he had charge
the interview which Mr.. McWadc had
1tained, He saw only the first, and knew
Vthing Of the contents of the second, Mr..
lckean gave the name of the other per-
,npresent as Addison b. Burke, his as
stant and the next in immediate charge
the paper.
He said that because the statement i'm
Heated number Of reputable citizens
ppn the testimony of witness not credi-
l4lt was decided that it was not proper to
uhiish it. 1t WIS locked up in the office
r&proof and had, so far as he knew,
NYbr been out of the Ledgcr office until
fDllght to the committee room to-day. No
amber Of the committee had ever seen it;
4gtnct no one except the three editors of
1e Ledger had ever seen it.
IA THE COMMITTEE MAKES IT puBLte.
NE. Mexican then submitted the first
1terview, and Mr.. McWade the second to
1e committee, both of them being sealed
Nenyelopes.
committeeman Etting moved that they
b read
Eommitteeman Hicks moved TO amend,
PIT the committee first 60 into executive
*sion. lie said that il three members OF
ae editorial force OF such u paper as the
fdger hcsitated about publishing the
ntements, and finally decided not to
pblish them, the committee should first
3nsider them i'll private. They were the
Rtements of u man who lad perjured
{mself before this committee, and who is
Nv in prison serving sentence for his
4mes. Mr.. Hicks said he would certainly
HR IN executive session to suppress the
etements of such man il he thought
}ey were unwarranted.
'Mr. Etting opposed the executive session
lea.' Every man makes or tnmakes his
wn reputation, he said. Any man who
traduced in these papers can appear be-
ore the committee and state facts that
ill clear him. The public will he said
,se confidence in the committee il ii con-
der these papers privately.
1t was decided, by vote of 5 to 2 to
once listen to the public reading Of
be statements.
Mr.. McWade being familiar with the
Manuscript was asked to read the paper
Ihich he willingly consented to do, Much
bat Bardsley told to Mr.. MGWade was
incorporated in the statement
e read in court when called up for sem
ance June 23d, and which has already
cen published.
MR.. WANAMAKER's S STOCK.
In the first interview Bardsley went over
he story of the keystone Bank and
toutly maintained that he put the Ss}0, 900
. the bank, hut did not know what be-
anne of it any more than he believed that
resident Marsh got IT, Bardsley said
hat Bank Examiner Drew had been Il
eavy borrower from the Keystone Bank
9d was completely under the thumb Of
iarsh and Lucas. Marsh told Him that
ohm Wanamakcr knowingly held over
500 shares of overissue stock of the Key
Ione Bank, and had demanded Sl0O,0O0
or them, although he had never paid
: given any value for them whatever.
Ir. Wanalnaker's demand was that Mrs.
.ucas was to give S5O0O0 of that amount,
iarsh S25,000 and the bank the rest of it
-the remaining $4,000. Bardsley con-
nued:
"A plan was arranged that the stock was
D be thrown into u pool or given up. in
rider to help the rebuilding of the bank
seemed clear for Il speedy and
arrangement, when John
Vahamaker upset all our plans by his re-
narkable demand, accompanied by the
hreat that unless the Sl0000O was paid
yer to his lawyer r. Il. Rotherinci, he
'ould close the bunk. Marsh was fright
ned, and did not know what to do. told
i'm TO engage good lawyers ut once, and to
istruct them to demand the over issue
rom John Wanamaker and not pay him a
ent. showed him that John Wanna
,aker was knowingly guilty of a crime in
staining those over issued shares and that
c must not be permitted to bulldoze the
anll. Marsh took my advice and engaged
layer Sulzberger and John q. johnson.
hey demanded the stock and Wanamaker
nduced his demand TO $4,000, but he and
is lawyer were told that if the stock were
ot returned by certain specified date