The morning call., 1891-06-05
TREATY MAKING.
The Negotiation With Canadian
Officials.
Sir Charles TupperS Statement Of the
Case.
Interviews With Mr.. Blaine In Regard to
Reciprocity With the Dominion
OF Canada.
Special to THE MORNING OAzL

ment Of paper dealing with the Washing
ton reciprocity negotiations has been laid
before the Dominion Parliament. When
Newfoundland negotiated her treaty, Sir
Julian Pauncefote cabled the Colonial Office
that Canadian opinion should be invited.
simultaneously Sir John Macdonald COM
municated with Sir Charles Upper, urging
him to enter an objection on the ground that
it would be injurious TO Canada, and would
violate the imperial policy of considering
the Atlantic fisheries as a whole. The let
ters which indicate the attitude Of Mr..
Blainest0ward Canada'S proposal are miss
ing-for the publication of these permission
has not vet been obtained. One interesting
communication is dated Jan uary 23d, from
Lord Knutsford, the Colonial Secretary He
says: "The Newfoundland Ministers are
willing to negotiate for an arrangement
with Canada on basis similar to the United
States and her Majesty's Government
strongly hopes the Dominion will. on this
understanding, withdraw its opposition"
The reply to this is not given.
The most important communications are
the reports by Sir Charles Tupper of inter-
views with Mr.. Blaine.
TUPPER's TALK WITH BLAINE.
Upper gives details of his first talk with
Mr.. Blaine in company with Pauncefote,
and says: Il told Mr.. Blaine wished at
the outset to recognize the accuracy Of the
statement contained in his letter to Paunce-
fote which had seen, in reference to the
invitation to open the negotiations regarding
reciprocal trade arrangements between the
two countries, in that believe 1t arose from
the negotiations which had recently taken
place between the United States and New
fOundland and the desire expressed by
Canada to be included in any arrangements
such as has been understood to have been
contemplated by the United States and
Newfoundland, and that upon that being
communicated to him by Sir Julian Pauncf-
fote he had expressed his willingness to
open negotiations for reciprocal trade ar
rangements between Canada and the United
States, assisted by delegates from the Do
minon Government, the negotiations to be
informal and to a certain extent of a conf
dental nature until they could assume a
more formal character if any result were ar
rived at. Mr.. Blaine said that he under
stood Canada had taken exception to the
proposed arrangement with the United
States by Newfoundland.
UNITY OF INTERESTS.
II admitted that such was the case, and
explained that the interests of Canada and
Newfoundland always had been regarded
as inseEerabe. | told Mr.. Blaine | wished
to remove the idea, If he entertained it,
which had been promulgated in Canada
and the United States, that the present
Government OF the Dominion was not
warmly in favor of the most friendly rela-
tions with the United States. In an article.
ture to the North American Review, L
had undertaken to give conclusive evidence
upon that point, and l need further
only to refer him to the fact that when
Sir John Macdonald, who was one
of her Majesty's High Commits
sioners, submitted to Parliament for
approval the Alabama treaty, which set
tied all the leading questions between
Canada and the United States. he was
fiercely denounced by the leaders and the
press of the Liberal party for having baSelY
sacrificed the interests OF Canada In his
endeavors to promote friendly relations be-
tween Canada and the United States.
added that | had experienced the same
treatment from the same party when L sub
mitted for the approval of Parliament the
treaty OF Washington of 1888. OF course in
1866 and subsequently in 1885, when the
treaties which gave the United States fish,
ermen common right with ours, were abr0-
gated, in consequence OF the action OF the
United States, we were thrown back upon
the treaty of 1918. but the statements tnat
Canada then reSorted tG a sharp construc-
ton of that treaty with the object of pro-
noting freer trade relations with the United
States we're erroneous.
THE RIGHTS OF FISHERMEN.
1--WE were compelled in justice to the rights
of our own fishermen who were met with
high duties in the United States market to
protect them. Mr.. Blaine desired to assure
mo that side nf individual diffaron Nf
opinion, there was no interest taken by the
members of Congress of the United States
in the recent Canadian election, and they
had taken no active part to influence the
result of the election. Continuing, said
Canada was most anxious TO have the freest
and most friendly relations with the United
States consistent with the interest of both
countries. Mr.. Blaine said he was free to ad-
NIT that the treaty of 1854 as not abrOgated
on commercial ground, but In consequences
of the feeling that Canada sympathiZed
with the Southern States in their conflict.
| replied it was difficult to see upon what
basis that opinion could be entertained;
that it was admitted no less than 1000 Cana
dianS fought in the Northern army TO main
tain tile Union, while | did not suppose
there was forty on the other side. Mr..
Blaine supposed that the very large bounty
had a good deal OF influence in the matter.
IL then said the unhappy conflict had taken
place previous to the confederation, but /
COulQ speak WIFI SOIH6 accuracy Oh the
province of Nova Scotia, with which l was
then connected; that the Legislature of
Nova Scotia passed a resolution deporing
the war, and one Of the sharpest of Interna-
tiOnal questions arose, as he would remem-
Der. in connection with the Chesapeake in
cident in the harbor of Halifax. Sir John
Macdonald and his party had the strongest
desire to promote reciprocal trade between
the two countries, and their hopes in that
direction were greatly strengthened by
the decided measures which Mr.. Blaine
had taken to promote reciprocal trade
with other countries, and l could not see
why he could not, with great advantage to
the United States as we'll as to Canada, eX-
tend TO the north the same policy he pur-
sued with the countries south, whose trade
was very much smaller than between
the Dominion and the United States.
l said the fact he had expressed his
readiness to receive the representations that
Canada wished to make would show he as
quite open to consider that question. / was
further strengthened In my views, l
added, By the disposition he had shown to
make reciprocal arrangements with the
colony of Newfoundland. Some question
then arose between Sir Julian and Mr..
Blaine as to the Bond negotiations, aud Sir
Julian explained that Bond had no au-
thority to negotiate in any other way than
through him.
Blaine said it did not appear necessary
to negotiate treaty with Newfoundland.
as that colony had expressed readiness to
give the Uuted States the privileges they
enjoyed by their own action, and they pro-
posed not only to give bait to the United
States fishermen, but to refuse the same
privilege to Canada. I told Mr. Blaine
that the bait act in Newfoundland
had received the assent of her Majesty
upon distinct pledge that Canadian vessels
would not be affected by it. Her Majesty
had the power to diSallow any bill that
might be passed upon any subject By the
colony. Upon the conclusion of the inter-
view / thanked Mr.. Blaine very much for
his courtesy.
Following is Sir Charles Tupper's report