Telegram-herald., 1891-11-30

4 Z splo0asa sfte OF some four acre.
y aexs . great Roma. casholie cathedral
d q - crested
The cardinal did not encourage engt
Gus vssisors. Jet hs has been - -
uesns inaccessible. He likes AMeri-
cans. and when il has been It IL prsc-
ticasle, has nos been svsrss - granting
tlem an interview. One y serHeh ~
the intense simplicity of the cid man
when you 6rst see him n kis ksr~ry
O1s zt eace thinks On seeing he Geant
form and striking features Of the
csrdinsl Of twe pen pictures OF the
nan drawn by such an artist ~ Johs
Morley. who sAid Of the appearance II
his face:
1t was as II wrinkied parchment
vas stretched acress . deshless sEull
0at Of which. however. kindly blue
eyer CLEANED brightly, while . pleasant
snils gave life and human humos 70
the features OF the ascctic-"
And that is good description Of the
cardinal Is he greeted me in his study.
II the day Is warm. you win find him ~
work in his plain biack-cassock edged
with red that marks his rank and
skau cap drawn over his head II eeid.
he win have On . sost drawn over all
Around his neck is the gold chain and
cross of the holy SEQ. The great
sapphire ring on His Anger vas given
him by Pius TX
suggested that the cardinal was still
doing . good deal Of work despite his
advanced age
"YsA" he replied. II have been used
20 werk. hard work. al my life. love
work. 1t is part Of my lffe Besides
there il so much 70 b done that DO
nst feel that l cen b hle. ! have .
long day. Beginufhg ut . o'clock in tho
morning am frequently still at work
at II at night dine early 1t l:so. and
have tea q T:se. In addition TO my
other wcrk rssA the principal news
papers, paying particular atlantic. 70
foreign news."
Going on the cardinal said that since
1858 he had been total abstainer from
the use Of liquor and that Of late years
he has been almost q vegetarian a. well
II was when the cardinals attention
was drawn TO stateme nts that Christian
ity was no. holding its own against infi-
dels. agnostics and the Nke. that he
spoke most vigorously.
81 have been Ia the thick Of religious
life for more than 90 years." said he,
with dash Of his steel blue eyes, ''and
I believe from my experience that faith
and religion have enormously grown in
England since the time of John Wes-
ley. From the time Of Elizabeth to.
say i7se. religion had steadily declined
Since the time Of Wesley. both in and
oat Of The Established church, II haa
Just "a steadily advanced. There il
stin . good deal Of reason run 70 seed
in England, . good deal of free thought
and much spiritual ignorance among the
ovorworked masseA But We are MAX
ing . stsady headway against THAI Il
you could 70 among London working
men - do You would see this There
are more than 800. 600 Catholics In Eng
land now. and they are increasing in
nrnber. What b more. they really
practice their religion"
"And the other churchesr
'Ah, my son, ssid the cardinal, smil-
ingly, II am too old to throw stones II
is no part of my duty 70 criticise those
who ere without onr lines"
Then the question Of temperance
came up.
ENGLAND sober, said the aged church
man. lis England happy and contented
II we could make the English workman
total ahstainer. we could settle the
most serious Of the social problems that
| confront M now. I have worked to-
ward this end for many years, and with
| some success"
The cardinal takes very hopeful
view Of the labor outlook. and he 10 Pc
culiarly competent to speak on the mat
ter. In his opinion workingmen and
their employers are coming elsser to-
gesher all the time
On the Irish question, rs on others,
Cardinal Manning's opinions are clear
CUT sHe did not discuss persons bat
| spoke generally.
II am IN Englishman, you know. 70 the
| core and ! am not . seperatist." he
| said, but know and love the Irish
people. Since the time Of Henry Will
WY uovc SSCo BOvCHnCu W lAs-
| justice naturally provokes evil passioua
Kind and equal laws wsald long ago
have settled the Irish question. and II
II only by extending such laws that
tranquility will - thoroughly restored
70 that country"
The cardinal did not seem 10 think
over much Of IN Irish parliament, - Il
b generally understood He seemed 70
favor ehambcr that would attend to
merely local legislation He was not
inclined 70 discuss the present split In
the Irish party. but contested himself
with saying that he thought in the end
The rish wsuld work 0st tAsir own sal-
vNtion
He spoke Of the educational question,
and on IT took the ground usually bel.
by orthodox Catholics, and n the end
he said in clear. precise manner that
that Il characteristics Of the man:
II have no faith In IN undenonina-
tional religion II nears . 'sAaps that
SHAPE hath none
At this point In our cenversation the
cardinal seemed uneasy. He had 9iven
me great deal Of time. 90 arose - 90
The Ard prelase did the same.
Tell the Americas people" he ssid
''to fear God and make their country .
prosperous land. inhabited b1i God
fearin9 people A blessing upen all