The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1891-08-01
NJ. de Blowitz, of the London
Times, interviewed.
THE NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. NATTER
Why 1t Was Published-The Count Has Made
10 Denial-BlowitZ Never Publishes
Without Permission.
Especial to THE HzRALD-Examiner Gable.

garding the fall of Bismarck, and which APP
peared in the papers of the 30th ultimo.
On that occasion NJ. de Blowitz told how,
according to the count, old Emperor VIII
liam had himself determined on the re-
moval of Bismarck from his position as
chancellor, and how he had selected Won
Caprivi as Bismsrck's successor, conse-
quently that the fall of Bismarck was not
que 10 the present Kaiser. 1t was also
stated that the prince and princess had lost
their temper when the prince was notified
of his dismissal.
The scene was the historical library In
which every portion of the walls is
covered with portraits OF the crowned
heads and royalties OF Europe, bearing af-
fectionate inscriptions in their own hand
writing addressed to NJ. de Blowitz. Here,
surrounded by an atmosphere of courts,
NJ de BlowitZ does all his work. He was
loath to talk for publication, but your cor
respondent nevertheless enjoyed a most in
teresting Interview with him on the sub
lect OF his recent article on Count Won
Munster and the events preceding the re-
signation of Prince Bismarck.
NJ. de Blowitz said: 81 know that many
stories have appeared in American newspa-
pers respecting my interview with Count
Won Munster. They have said that Count
Herbert Bismarck was about TO fight q duel
with Count Won Munster; that Count Won
Munster had been recalled, or will be, on
| account of that conversation; and even that
| l have been dismissed from the Times. All
these statements are mere fsbrications.
They are on q par with others told about
me in every corner OF the world. The
American newspapers have called me aJew
and Pole. Really, l am Austrian, Slay.
IL Is impossible, however, to deny all the
stories which have been so carelessly circu-
lated. The fact is, that when published
the conversation in question thought my
self perfectly authorized to do SO. Count
Won Munster gave me An account of the
visit he paid Prince Bismarck on the very
day of the princes fall. Hegsve me shortly
afterwards the details which l published,
and which, let me add, were published be-
cause / thought they formed q striking
chapter showing the chancellor's state of
mind Al the moment of his disgrace. l still
think it page in history which neither
Count Won Munster nor / had any right
TO keep back, because II certainly gives the
best and most complete idea of the feelings
of Prince bismarck at that critical moment
of his life, and is also key which makes
US understand why the young Emperor
dlsgraced him and the motives which in
ftuenced him in the choice of General Won
Capriyi as his successor. l considered
NY sell GuIuOrlLcu W PUBLISH tulS luUeT
view, because Count Won Munster had not
said word to preclude my doing so. And
/ may here observe / never in my journal
istic life published single word which
was not authorized to publish by those
who uttered il, and in the diplomatic world
the discretion which l observe when 1 am
required not to publish what is told me, is
quite understood Thus, for instance,
every one knows that some years ago
when, being in Rome, 1 had conversation
of over two hours with the present Pope,
certainly one of the most interesting and
remarkable conversations / have ever held,
which, if it had been published, would
have produced the deepest imaginable ex-
preston. The story no one knows, but
at o'clock in the morning
received message from Cardinal Jacobine
asking me in the Pope's name to say moth
ing about the conversation. Now, not only
has nothing of 1t appeared, but have even
destroyed the notes made, and / may add
that | do not now even remember wha [
was said. / have never betrayed the conf
dence of those who asked me not to publish
that they tell me, SO that
L should not have published
the conversation with Count Won Munster
if had not believed that it was told with
me rather with the idea of Its being
published. maoe notes of it Immediately
after leaving tue embassy and waited for
an opportunity of reproducing it. That
opportunity, l thought, was offered me in
June, when the rumor was Professionally
circulated, not only in the French press
but abroad, of the recall of Count Munster
on the 9th. The conversation appeared on
Monday, June 29. On Wednesday an envoy
from Count Won Munster called at my
house. and / learned with great surprise
Count Won Munster was displeased at the
publication, chiefly because had repeated
that which ne had told me respecting,
not only Count Herbert, out also,
the action and influence Of Prin-
cess Bismarck on the mind of
her husband, Count Won Munster, was evil
IDENTIFY annoyed at the idea oil having intro
duced the name OF the princess in the &C
count which he had given to me, but as
said to his envoy, Il am not of the counts
opinion The Princess Bismarck, it is
well known, always took great interest and
share in the politics carried on by ner hus-
band. She evidently, perhaps even rightly,
considered him the greatest political diplo-
matte genius Of his time, and considered
that he was the real founder OF the Ger
man empire, and that he had rendered
such immense services TO his country and
his master that the disgrace brought upon
him by the young Emperor seemed TO her
something blasphemous, more than an act
of ingratitude. an act of monstrous inlus-
tice. 1t was therefore natural that her in
dignation should be more extreme and
violent than her husbands, and L must say
every one of reflection will excuse her |
have beer told by diplomat, quite as
much sauthorized as Count Won Munster
himself whom | will not name for fear of
displeasing him, as / regret TO have done
Count Won Munster, that the princess
violence was such that when William the
Second sent his likeness to Prince Bismarck
as a testimony of his regard, she was SO
indignant al what she considered an act of
hypocrisy that she ordered it to be sent to
Friederichsruhe and to be placed in the
stables. AL this time there was an officer
of the imperinl cavalry present as a witness
to this scene. In her ordinary frame of
mind such an action on her part might be
criticised, but in the state Of Indignation
and excitement in which she then was no
violence or protestation could be re-
preached to her because it was only natural
the wife of a man like Prince Bismarck
should be exasperated at the Ill treatment
inflicted by the young Emperor. i believe
Count Won Munster TO be as honest and
straightforward man a. there is in the
world. and know that he afterwards said
to Prince Bismarck: III you want q man
who is able 10 tell q lie, you should recall
me and put somebody else In my place.
AZ really believe he never told lie in his
life. and IL he had affirmed that my story as
wrote it and as it was published, was
false. / should have admitted that il WAS
not true. Up to the present time, however,
AS YOU know, he has made no such
affirmation, Notwithstanding that the Ham,
burger yachrichten, Prince Bismarck's
challenged him to contradict