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The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1891-12-12

CHICAGO. Ill.,. Dec. 1l.-Cattlo. receipts 5000
head; shipments 4, 0U head: market lower: prime
y 1oa5 .: Christmas steers Sc C0lG u; st0ckers
$. Hoao -: COWS 81 l0a2 b. Hogs, receipts y, 900
head: shipments ll,0N head; market strong:
rough and common s. 5oas Is prime mixed 50 ia
3ooi prime heaFySJ 90aa9 Sheep. receipts 1000
head; shipments 100 head: market ilrmcr md
steady; native ewes s. 0oa5 .: wcthcrs s. iOas 90;
westerns 81 S0ai Is; lambs So 25a4 A5.
EAST Liberty. Pa. Dec. ll.-Cnttle. reccIpts
1l,O92 head: shipments ] ,2SG head: market, moth.
Ing doing. all through c~onsignmcn;s. Hogs, re.
cciDtts $50 head: shipments 1000 head: market
steady; Philauelphias s. Sja3 90; mixed 50 s.:
best Workers g 1ja3 S. :,common 10 fair 81 COa3 70:
Sheep. receipts 2,.l0 head; shipments zoo head
market slow. and unchanged.
C~ISclSSATI. o.. Dec. 1l.-IIogs, steady; com.
mon and light 50 OOa3 Co: packing and butch.
1900 head.
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FEMININITIES.

A very pretty Christmas gift for ones
sweetheart or ones brother is a hand
some brush having a back OF tortoise
shell with a monogram or cipher cut
into tho shell itself. This, with the
comb, is strapped in 4 pretty leather
case and possesses the two desirable
qualities OF being ornamental and
useful.
One OF the.most curious rings seen
lately is OF aluminium with n very dark
ruby set in it. The ring looks almost
black, and it is only at night that the
stone is at its best, and imprcsscs one
with its great beauty.
The busy woman finds an useful Or
nament for her chatclainc in 4 pencil
that exactly initiates 4 match, and
which may suggest to the looker-on
either that she is matchlcss, or her
match has been found.
Tailor gowns require to be made and
pressed very nicely Tor them to prove
satisfactory. The plain-tittins basoucs
are not so much worn us those with
open fronts that hang straight over q
blouse-lillc vest.
Although the style OF the now hats
rather demands that they should be set
forward, still it is we'll to remember
that Il hat brought too far over the face
is at once trying, and gives a rather
hard, bold look.
What is known as the sharp-pointed
Spanish bang is very much in vogue,
but it must be remembered that the
hair must grow in this way, for it can
not be cut in this shape or trained to it.
An Inexpensive fabric that will make
charming house dresses, tea-gowns and
evening dresses is crepe-Gnislled China
silk in designs OF waved stripes OF a sin.
sle color or in contrasts.
A slight drapery is usual on most
skirts, just giving ease across the top
Of the front.
Fashion now equally fayors two
styles, the quite tight and the half.tit-
ting jacket.
Bows OF ribbon lace, chiffon and
large buttons are used as waist trim.
mings.
Bodices arc still much trimmed. only
a few perfectly plain me- being seen,
The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1891-12-12
my boy," to thc nearest, "what arc

my boy" to the nearest, "what arc
I'm n Republican"
Yes; and why?"
"Chuse Mckinley and tho Rcpubli.
cans saved tho country"
VERY good-onlyl guess the Rcpub.
Leans weren't nlono in that little garpe.
your
"l'm n silver man."
Aye, and why?"
"Causc iay.hcr's silver man, aud CT
tho silver men was in power we'd hev
moncy-lots OF it-Nnd Il poor chap like
mo could get a dino onco in awhile,
which don't now"
Good! And now, my hero, what are
YOU to tho smallest Of tho trio, but
the biggest.hcadcd.
I'm IN old.iashioncd Democrat"
Right; and whyy"
coonln
And he got 1t.
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Tho Domoc.at Cot tho Coon.

Out in tho wilds OF southern Georgia
q man had been coon-hunting, and had,
after h~alt-day's tramping through the
bush, captured a single coon, says tho
New York Ledger. lilo cared moro for
the sport, however, than he did for the
game and CHANGING to meet three tow
headed urchins-nativcs OF tho district
he proposed to them that the boy
who should give the best answer to a
question which he should PROFOUND
should have the coon.
II give you this compound question:
What arc your politics? And why do
you hold that particular faith? Now,
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ONE ENJOYS

Both tho method and ~rcoulta when
Syrup Of Figs is taken; 1t IS pleasant
and refreshing to tho tasto, and acts
gently yet promptly on tho Kidneys,
Liver and Bowels, %clcsnscu .ao sys--
ten etiectually, dispcls colds, head.
aches Gud !evcr5 and cures E.hi.ual
constipation. Syrup of Figs 10 tho
only rcmcdy. Of its l:iad ovc- pro-
cuccd, pleasing to tho taste end nc.
ccpIablc 20 tho stomach, prompt in
It's action and truly beneficial in Its
et:tGts, prepared only from tho mcss
healthy md agreeable substances, lis
many excellent qualities commend it
TO all mad have mado il tho most
popultr remedy known.
Syrup of Figs is for sale in Soc
and 81 bottles by all leading drug.
gists. Any reliable druggist WHO
may not have it on hand will pro.
curo it promptly for any one who
wishes to try it. DO not accent any
substitute.
CALIFORNIA FIG syrup co.
saw francisco. Gal.
LOUISVILLE, ~. EsW YORK MY.
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Persons subject to cramps will be in
terestcd in the experience OF J. +. Miles,
Wesley, Venango county, Pa. He was
taken very severely and called in two
doctors, who prescribed ior him but
failed to give him relief. a druggist of
Butler, Pa, then gave him a double
dose OF Chamberlain's Collie, Cholera
and DiarrllGa Remedy, and in twenty
minutes no was all right and is cnthu-
siastic in his praise OF the remedy. %
and so cent bottles for sale by drug
cists. DIV
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act on q new Notwithstanding the
liver, stomach and bowels through the
nerves. A new discovery. DR.. Miles
Pills speedily cure b%lliousness, bad
taste, torpid liver, piles, constipation.
unegualcd for men, women. children.
Smallest, mildest, surcst! Fifty doses
3 cents. Samples free at tho Logan
Drug Co.'s.
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FINANCE AND TRADE.
Tho Features OF tn, .lunoy nui Stock
Mnrlieti.

New YonK, Dec. li..Moncy on call easy.
ranging from 2to . per cent, last loan . Per
cent, closed offered at . pcr cent, Prime
mercantile paper 6a6 per cent. Sterling OK.
change quiet and steady at 81 s21Saisgi. Sales
were ig,, 90. shares.
The stock market to-day was irregular. with
most Of tho business confined TO u few special.
Ties. The strength features were Richmond
Terminal aud Chicago GINS. Missouri Pacific nrl
IhicGgo, burlington " Quincy were expcctlonnl'
~ weak, Tho telt OF the list WINS comparatively
neglected. Tho Vanderbilt following continue
their predictions Of higher prices generally, IS
peciaIly for their line. The close was dull.
Government and state bonds dull.
Railroad bonds moderately act!ve. Sales
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CONsTANCy.


Sir John Suctiinu.
Out upon ~ ! hive loved
Three whole days together,
And mn Ike TO love three more,
lit prove fair weather.
Time shall mo9lt away his wings
Ere he shall discover
III the whole wide world again
such u constant lover!
but the spite. on'tis. no praise
Is due NJ all 10 me;
Love with me Ind made ne stays
Had II my been but she.
lind Il any been but she,
And that very face,
There Ind been nj lenSt ero this
Ado2cn dozen IN her place.
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syMrToMs-Moisture; intense itching ant
singing; most Ut night; worse by scratching
If allowed 10 continue JUNIORS form. which OF
len bleed and u~lceratc, becoming very sore
swAySE's OINTMENT stops the itching and bleed
Ing, heals liberation mid In most cases remove
the tumors. At druggists or BY mail ior " cents
DR.. SMayne & Son, philadclphIn.
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Watts-"The man who attempts to
argue with his wife. when her mind is
made up is pretty sure to como out sec
ond best" Potts-"1t is not that way
in my experience. I always get dis
tanced. '-lndianapolis Journal.
The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1891-12-12

THERE is nothing like DR.. Thomas
Eclectric Oil to quickly cure a.cold or
relieve hoarscness. Written by Mrs.
NJ. ]. Fellows, Burr Oak, ST. Joseph
county, Mich. pAw
The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1891-12-12

Simply apply "SwAySE's OINTMENT" No In.
ternal medicine required. Cures letter, eczema,
itch. all cruptions on the fGcc. hands, nose, &c,
leaving tho skin clear. white md healthy. Its
by no other remedy. ASK your druggists for
SWAYSE'S OINTMENT. I.rhssW
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Dry Goods.

NEW YoEK. Dec. l1.-Duslncss in dry goods
continue 10 improve to-day. The price Of SfcrrI.
mac was Go less, n liberal discount and this is
understood to be about the basis OF the market
this season; The jobbing trade was good for Ibis
notivn Hn#H. rrsHurE# a.BHF#H- 'Sss
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MCAl6.

NEW York. Dec. ll.-pls Iron quiet: Ameri.
can sl5 !Sals 90: Copper weak ut $40, 80. Lead
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CLIPPED from Canada Presbyterian"
under signature OF G. Blackett Robin
son, proprietor: l was cured Of oit.re-
CURING bilious headaches by Burdock
Blood Bittcrs. NV
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MEDICAL
.3ACClLLI IN BLOOD,

Recent experiments 10 read before Tic
lost Congress Of Surgeons ut Berlin, leave
no doubt that the trlie way 10 CLEAR
TIE SYSTEM OFWICROET Is
through tho pores Of tho skin. II has been
found that q remedy which kills The Mi.
ciobi will also destroy the life of the
patient; but It has also been found that the
N!csobi can DO forced ont through the
skin, and II Is In this way TINT G s G
relieves the system Of poison, s.ysS ssy.
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noxDiAvD srocr QUOTATIONS. -cLo,rD uln


us. Is rey.. .. ......... llGdiIScw York Central .llG,i
US. u coupon e. .llT1iI0hlo IL Mississippi y
Y. /. AS ycS......-lW do preferred .....- 81
Pacific Us OF 70 ....l0SlSD0rcgon lmproye't. t. AZ
Atchison ....,. ...... i!gaI0regon Nnv."..". 70
Adams Exprcss....lii Oregon Trnns.,.... II
American ExptGss-lli Pacific Mall........ aGA
Canada Pacific. .... Wal Pittsburgh .,.... ....... Isl
Canada Southern. C3Ii Pullman Palace. 10
Central Pacific. ....- u Reading .....,.....- 3Sn
chesapeake & Ohio 2Jj4l Rock lslund........ SLs
DO iirst p%rcicrrcd iS.aSt. Paul. ,.......... rs
do second prct'd IS do preferred .....l?!g]4
Ghi.Blr. & Quincy. l0j1ISt. Paul & Omaha. IS
Dol. 4 Hudson 60. ..l2al do pietcrrcd. ...... 10Y
Dcl. Lack. 4 Westp- l2SjsITcnn. Coll & Iron. 3D4
Zen. u Il &. prctd 4iliiTcxnt Pacific ........ 1lss
irle."..".".m."-., 81 Union Pacific ........ t04
Iort Wayne, .......... lA III. $. ESprcsS...,.... II
Illinois Central ...,.lMhlW.. 81, H.. K P........ l?is
Kansas &TeSas. .... 1914 do preferred. ...... 27T
Lake Shore, seq. ,....,l ?5laW Wells Fargo Ey....l40
Louisville Il Nash, 500 Western Union .... 50
Memphis & Chn,.. 20 lam. Cotton OIL, 2gIa
Michigan Central g. lOSHiCo!oraao Coll,,..... "a
Missouri Pnclic,.. &Ailron Sllver.....,.....li
Nashville & CHAT. Of IQuickIlvcr ........... 3ss
NcwJerscyCentnL. 1871 do preicrred.... :. -
Noriollt & ". prerd 5l3aJ Su,ro....... ....... 8
Northern PLclIc... 2i13 Rchm'd W.P.T T.. llk
40 preferred. ,....- GSH Chicago GaS.......... o.
NorshweStorn ......l i54II Lend Trust. ........... l7M
10 preferred ,......l39 Sugar Trust......... bSE
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New YonK. Dec. n.-Petroleum was dull IN.
day and the opening was steady ut b31ls.c. Tho
market then became dull and remained SO until
the close. Pennsylvania oil, spot 5SIIc: January
C0e;. lowest and closing ssisc: highest 5SiGc.
Sales l 5000 barrels.
on. CITY. Pa. Dec. lI.-Opcned at 5s,Ic: nigh.
est 5S1Ac; lowest 5S33Ssc; closed at 5SGc; sale,
10000 barrels: Clcarnnces 10000 barrels: shin,
ments o5,4io barrels: runs ~, ISL barrels.
BRADFORD. Pa, Dec. 1l.-Opcncd at $3.50.
closed at asa'ksc: highest 5s14c: lowest 5s11ac; clessr..
anccs 5000 barrels. -" -
PITTSBURGH. Pa. Dec. ll.-Opencd at 5sjlc.
closed at 5s774c: highest 5s1tc; loves. 6sjGe.
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CINCINNATI. O., Dec. ll.-cot.on quiet.
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Boston. MASS. Dec. 1.-THE wool market
Is In fair demand; sales ., 10000 pounds for the
week. Territory, clean Coo: fine 53n5Sc: tIpc
medium Haa5c; California spring la1l9c; Texas
and Oregon dull; Oh!o.N "9saooc: NX and Xxx
Siaalc; do Michigan No. ! comhIng dull nj
87a39c: fine dGlaiic Ohio Gia35c: do Michigan
32aS3c: unwnshcd combing ?jl2sc: pulled 3Oaioc
for super and e2a3Cc for extras: Australian firm;
foreign carpets dull.s
NEW York, Dec. ll.-Wool easy; domestic
fleece SOa36c; pulled oGa33c.
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TOLEDO. o.. Dec. l1.-Whcat active; cash and
December 9Gc; Nny 81 or. Corn active
cash Axe. Oats quiet: cash Sic. Rye dill
al 9liaac. Clorersccd steady: cIsh and DECEMBER
s. Is; January S 37a; February IS 10; March
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Ayers ;ryR

Prepared by Dr.. ]. G. Aver s: CO., Lowell, Mars,
~. ~ all Orssgls.si rr!co 81; BIZ bottles S..
The St. Johns herald., 1891-08-06
BEATING A RAILROAD. A
How a Dishonest Travelling Man Tried to
 Swell His Pocketbootx.

How a Dishonest Travelling Man Tried fo
 Swell His PoclSetbook.
 A drummer for St. Louis clothing house tried to play low-down trick on the Alton road at Dwight one day re- ton of female passenger who was awaiting her tram his scheme would undoubtedly have succeeded
 The fellow, says'the Chicago Herald, held checks for two pieces of baggage. 9 trunk and a satchel. Obtaining per- mission from the baggageman, who was at work on the platform, to go in- side and place :n extra sample in his trunk the travelling man shortly emerged from the baggage-room protest ing that he was unable to find his satchel. Search was at once instituted, but to no effect; the missing grip for which he held check was nowhere to be found. As it was not forthcoming when the train arrived the drummer made formal complaint to the station agent and put in a claim of one hundred dollars against the road to reimburse him for his loss.
 
 sat in the waiting-room, and who had been quiet but interested observer of the proceedings, walked toward the ticket window and inquired of the agent if the drummer had actually claimed that his valise had been stolen. She was told such was the case. ''Wen," said the woman, ''I am con- vinced that the fellow is fraud, for from where I sat had clear view of the baggagc-roon, and I distinctly saw that man go in there, unlock his trunk and place his satchel inside. Then after pretending to hunt around the room he rushed out and began abusing the bag gaTeman."
 The agent whistled thoughtfully. It was Q new dodge on him. Then he sent a dispatch to the operator at the F., P. and N. junction, to which place the drummer had checked his trunk, in which he outlined the circumstances and urged that the agent call two or three reputable citizens and i1 their presence open the trunk.
 The St. Louis man was uptown when the telegram arrived, but his baggage was at the station. Hastily calling in the city marshal and the nearest black smith. the loc!c Of the trunk was skillful- ly picked ald there, just beneath the tray. lay tho missing satchel.
 The entire particulars have just been sent in to tho general office of the AL ton, together with the very saucy let ter demanding one hundred dollars. In reply an cnawer was sent the St. Louis drummer to the effect that if he ever dared press his claim any further he would be vigorously prosecuted and punished to the full extent Of the law. Since the exposure of this well-laid scheme to raise the wind it transpircs that the artful dodger has been work ing the plan on other roads, but as the mans claims had not been paid, owing to the usual red tape that obtains in such cases, the chances are that he will never press any of them for final settlement
The St. Johns herald., 1891-08-06
4 .sOor Moaia.e" in Paris,

Lovers of pet dogs will be interested in the visit of an American lady to the store of Q dog modiste' in Paris. The sights were very amusing. The place was not 50 much a store as an establish mcnt, with halls and rooms richly fur nished. Ladies trippcd in and out all day long, most Of the visitors having with them pugs or terriers. The pet dogs were scattered through the rooms, each awaiting it's turn, Many small mats and rugs were around the waxcd floors, and every bit of carpeting of the kind was occupied by some pretty little creature. These dogs have va- rious dresses. The robe used in the morning is q garment of dark blue clCth. It is called a paletot, and is lined with rcd flannel. From leather collar little bells jingle as its wearer walks along. Sometimes bunch of violets is fastened on the left shoulder of a dog. On very cold days the pet is clad in soalsl1in of the same pattern, the collar being of fur, mounted in silver.
The St. Johns herald., 1891-08-06
A STRANGE FIND.
Strange Find Of a Full-TSiGged Ship in a
 Cave in Parkway Australia.

Strange Find of Tull-RiGged Ship in a
 Cave in Parkway Australia.
 A story which smaclzs of the marvel ous is the theme of much speculation at Sydney, Australia, says the New York Journal. Tn May, is90, four men left the Australian metropolis for pros pecting tour in tho mountains Of New Zealand. During July and August they had done much hard work around the base of Mount Ruaperhui and in the immediate vicinity.
 Tn the following month they penc- trated the unknown wilds on the head waters of the river Waikato. October their crowbars looscned an immense ledge of rocks which arose like preci- picc from the bed of a small creek tributary to the Wail5ato. When the debris was cleared away, a small crack some ten inches wide was revealed. Within two feet of the opening this crack became a wide-mouthed sub terranean chamber. A little more labor admitted the men into the open ing. Priming their miners lamps they started on a tour of exploration.
 Bones, charcoal and rudely con structed pottery was found cverywhere; some mumniiied remains of a small race of people with long, plaited hair, and few copper weapons were also found. Finally they emerged into an immense chamber, the dome of which was several hundred feet above their heads. But tho Titanic nature of the cavern cid not excite their curiosity as much cs q strange-shapcd object which was dimly outlined in the center of the chamber.
 h their unbounded amazemcnt they approached the uncanny object and found it to be a sailing vessel of mar velous symmetry and surprising beauty. The deck was of rosewood or of some material much resembling that valua- ble cabinet timber, and the masts Of ebony, polished as finely as the case of a music-boS. The remains of sails which hung idly around copper wire ropes or cables proved that they had been of pure yellow silk, almost as thick as a farmers grain sack.
 The vessel upwards of one hundred feet in length and some thirty broad. Although there were many copper wires and bands used in its construction, not a single nail or screw of any metal was to be seen, every joint being secured by hardwood screws or pine. Here for once is room for unboundcd speculation.
 When, how, and under what circum- stances was this piece of unknown marine handicraft transported to the South Pacific island and buried hun drcds of feet in the interior of a lefty mountain? No means of egress or iagress were found except the mar row opening revealed by the crowbar work
The St. Johns herald., 1891-08-06
DEATH STOPS THE CLOCK.
At Least That Is the Supposition of su.
 perstitiOus People.

AC LeaSL InaG IS the SuppOSlI1On O1 SUs
 perstitiOus People.
 The sentimental and superstitious who are given to tracing the laws of coincidence, says the Pittsburgh (Pa.) Times, will find an interesting subject for their attention in the recent death of jewcler in Bucyrus, O. For many years 1t has been the office of sl1illful German matchmaker whose name is Frank Kchrer, to attend to the town clock. During the last few months the health of MT. Kehrer has been poor, and the clock, deprived of his careful attention, has been keeping indifferent time.
 One Monday morning recently the tinepiece struck five o'clock and few moments later it stopped. Early risers who heard the chime say there was something indcscribably weird and pe- culiar about it. Later risers noticed that the clock hands pointed to 5:05, commenting upon the subject and it's aged guardian. Later in the day the news spread that MT. Kehrer's condi- ton had suddenly become worse, and that he had died at 5:O5 that morning.
 When the late State Senator J. B, Smith, of Hancock county. ". Va, passed away, his family looked at his watch to sec the time. The hands pointed to 12;02. When S. G. Smith, son of the late senator, began house. keeping in Wheeling, his father gave him a family clock which he had al- ways attended to himself. After the funeral Mir. Smith returned to Wheel ing. As soon as he saw the clock Mir. Smith turned to his mother and sister and asked them if anything in the room had attracted their attention. 'The clock" said the sister, and the mother nodded assent. The clock had stopped at I2:O2.
The St. Johns herald., 1891-08-06
scbooI pisc;nl,ne In Cerunanv.

A queer case of school discipline has lately attracted attention in Germany. The teacher of . village school, who carried on the business Gf extracting teeth to increase his paltry income, utilized his dental skill for the disciplin- ing of recalcitrant pupils. Eight boys were by him deprived of teeth, which he thought they could get along better witkout than with, as punishment for gross disobedience. The parcRts of the pupils caused this odd disciplin2rian to be prosecuted for doing bodily injury to their offspring, but the charge was dis lnlSsed because the teacher pioved by expert medical testimony that instead of harming his pupils he had actually benefited them. This style of discipline, however, has been prohibited.
The St. Johns herald., 1891-08-06
IfYou Are in the Swim.

If you want to be in it up to :he neck. to use 6 rather expressive vernacular phrase, you must write Town" in- stead of City" on local letters They say it is quite too utterly En- glis'l, and its use will show the postal clerks and letter carriers that yoa AEow what's what If it should happen to bother these hard-wor,c1 individuals. 50 much the better For tue aforesaid they" say .i IS Engirah not to think of the convon4ence of hu:abie and u;l- known tolivEs.