Pittsburg dispatch. [volume] (Pittsburg [Pa.]) 1880-1923, 1891-06-06
Pointed Out by Rev. 0. B, Milligan
to DR.. George, on Account of the
Alleged False Minutes.
THE SEVEN BANDED TOGETHER.
Dark Secrets Said to Rave Been Talked Of
BY the Ministers at the East
End Conference.
DR.. MALLIsTER IN HIS OWN DEFENSE.
Reports of Presbyteries Show the Membership in the
RP Church Decreasing.


Jerusalem was resumed by the Il. P Church
SYNOD Yesterday morning and has lost moth
ing of interest, despite the fact that the prev
alent opinion is that the controversy can
have hut one end, and that an overwhelming
vote against the young men on trial. DIR.
L. 7. George continued his argument, dis
cussing at length the charges of bad faith
preferred against him. He held that the
suSperdcd ministers were not deceived,
simply mistaken. If there were breach OF
faith in introducing the resolutions in con-
nection with the basis of settlement it was
by one man and not by the Judicial Com
mittee. but the committee was unanimous in
regard to them. Dr.. George said that his
veraeitv had not vet been sustained in the
court. and he would use all the means
at his command to settle the mat
ter He had no doubt the young
ministers gave out the oninion, and which
had been generally disseminated, that the
Judicial Committee mad not sustained the
church. He denied that there had been anv
co!usion in the Presbytery, or that its ac-
ton was dominated by any one man or any
two men.
Not Basis of Settlement.
1t was a necessity that the Presbytery
condemn by these resolutions, the East End
meeting and platform. and it would have
been q breach OF faith to present them after
the Presbvterv had accepted the basis of
settlement. They were not presented as a
basis of settlement, and the young men
were not asked or expected TO assent
10 them They were only for the
Presbyterv, and ali the accused were re-
Uuired TO do was to assent to their passage
1z-4 ho D,as shN-fn I 10
platform, and the young men were allowed
to er er their protest.
The Secretary of the East End platform
meeting said in Preshytery that there was
an organization and this was the first in
formation it got on the subject. As to the
charge of Justification of the minutes and all
other charges of similar character, DIR.
George said he wanted to know how much
falsehood had been committed. His in
formation all came from the young men,
He believed there had been an honest mis-
take. but he called attention to tine inius-
ticc of his treatment, and how Rev. q. B.
Milligan had stood over him with uplifted
band
Rev. o. B. NIilligan-I didn't threaten
you
DR. George-No. you didn't; but YOU
pointed ont to me the fate of all liars.
Continuing. DR.. George referred 10 Rev.
MI carson, OI DrOOElNIl. as naNlnU sent
telegram to the Presbytery saving there had
been no organization, when Mr.. Carson de-
manded to be heard DR.. George told Mr..
Carson to wait, but few minutes later told
him TO proceed.
Put His Opinions Under Oath.
Mr. Carson said he didn't send telegram
to the Presbytery, but he had gone before
notary and sworn that in his opinion no per-
manent organization had been formed at the
East End Conference; that he now reiterat-
ed that statement and said that DR.. George
had iHtimated that one of them (either he or
the speaker) had lied.
This focused the contest for the time, and
explanations restored good humor, though
Mr. Carson intimated that this wasn't like
" to he the end, as some of the accused val
ued their characters and while the laugh
might be on the side of the majority
at presen it might be on the other side
subsequently.
Rev. L. NJ. NilliCan attempted to get in
his oar at this juncture, but was not al
lowed.
DR. George said he had proposed to give
the Young men certificates of ministerial
standing, but they had refused TO accept
them. In conclusion, ne asked on what
grounds the Pittsburg PresbytcTy could
Offer basis of agreement, and answered
that it had none. The offer should have
come from the suspended ministers. The
i. p. Church cannot indorse as ministers
men whose views are in opposition TO its
principles. and it cannot treat with Rev. J.
r. j. NIilligan on any other basis than that
offered the Others.
DIR. NcAlIister in Els Own Defense.
DR.. McAllister followed. He said he had
been accused of being liberal, and he ad-
lnitted he was, in some things, and
was glad of it. He said he had voted
for Fremont in 1856, but at that
time he was not a member of the
r. p Church. Rev. II. w Temple during
the turmoil regarding the East End plat
form, had expressed himself hotly regarding
him (the speaker) saying: eve expected
YOU TO he with us, knowing you are liberal"
DR.. McAllister replied that Mr. Temple was
in the wrong, and advised him to stop in
time.
The Doctor said there were three import
ant points for the Synod to pass upon. The
charge that the Pittsburg Presbyterv was
unjust and wrong, the finding of the accused
guilty of following divisive courses, and the
question as TO whether the sentence was IL
legal and too seve-e. He then dwelt upon
the questions of injustice and wrong, and
consumed the time until noon in arguing for
the necessity Of the action taken. So little
need was there of testimony that nothing
but the leniencv of the Presbytery pre-
vented the stopping of the trial and causing
the arrest of the accused.
The Relevancy OF the Libel
On opening in the afternoon, DR.. Nc
Allister dwelt on the relevancy of the libel.
He said the evidence was ample, rehearsed
ii and referred to Church authorities The
decision of the Pittsburg Presbytery had
ruled that the libeled had d right TO be
heard as to the relevancy of the libel, but
no one can be heard in making plea against
the principles of his own profession. 1t is
for the court to decide whether it NAV dis
cipline on the spot, hav ing the proof before
it, 5r has already had. In the case of Mr.
CdcClurl1in, he did not denv the fact of at
tendance at the East End meeting, but de-
MED the possession of the evidence by the
court. The appeal was on account of the
Moderator's refusal to record the case, but,
said DR.. McAllister, ii was not the Modera-
tors business TO do 1t, but the clerks. The
court could make a record as il saw fit y
After citing authorities to great ex-
tent, DR.. McAllister concluded that
the Pittsburg Presbytery had done
no wrong, from beginning to end
4 plea. made against their profession,
such as these nien made, was sufficient, with
out other evidence, to convict them sum-
marily, and sentence follows as matter of
course, according to all ecclesiastical author
ity FROM the beginning Of the Church of
Scotland until date
As to the charge that a scheme was laid
10 make the defendants commit themselves
so as to obviate the necessity of testimony
10 make case against them, DR.. MeAllister