New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-04-18
THERE WILL BE RACING AT MONMOUTH OR
JEROME PARK.
MONMOUTH HELPED TO PAY THE LEGAL Ex-
pENsEs OF CLOSING THE PooLRooMs-
pwYER AND LAWRENCE TAKE
DRINK T0GETHER-wH0 TOLD
INSPECTOR BYRNEs !


may depend it he will leave no STONE ui.urheo "
persuade the courts Of NcwJersey that racing WIN
betting can be carried on without ohence asalst inc
law. =. vu,,.v,-s, =,
A Tribune reporter went down 10 "iinam'S'. az
o n m 10 see Mr.. Wlthers, to make suhory inquiries
of vast consequence TO the i"ce,soii's 'on1l Ivy.
Thu entrance 30 the Sages office Is through iow oarh
or,dor AT the end of which an elevator starts ana
stops The room in which he works ana THINKS Is OH
the fourth floor With the reporter lnside, trembling
with fear at the wrath TO come the elevator soppeu
at the second foor and who shouid step aooaiu pu'
Philip Dwyer, president OF the .broohsh 'ooAeS oi"O
Fourth noor,n said the owner at one time OF an
.ho -, roost ~ the famous racers the American
His eve fell on the reporter and opened as wide as
O saucer. ----i--
aGoing to see the old mani" be asked.
ayes was the faint reply.
Tho ewes opened wider, and the race around Vlein
flushed brilliant red $1,000,
ayon probably have important private business
vth Mr. Withersn the reporter said "and If you ike
viii let YOU call on him alone. In half an hour L
will return"
apm sure he won't talk If we 60 in together"
He left the elevator at the fourth hoor anu 'e IT,
porter descended to the dim corridor. On inc way o"V
he passed J. e. X. Lawrence pieSiuehU Vi "' O'"N'
Island Jockey Club.
II was evident that business Of importance had
taken the two presidents to Mir. Withers. IL mghv
be tho pooroom scandal. The reporter wal'eu I'LL
Mess,s. Dwyer and Lawrence had departed for fred
Fte-in,s TO take drink, each beam1rs on the oler'
and then he once more entered the eieVaVor' iho
400, marked @D D. Wthers" was reached without
mishap and opened without accident
There sat the Sage facing it, hls back to the Win
dow He was writing. wide table was IN 'front.'
~ him. He looked up at the intruder lie looNeo
male hut healthy. He had good color lie was
ecajnng his health undoubtedly. and appeared capa
90. GOOD many fights in the interest Of honest
racing
GOOD afternoon. Mr.. wtlers.'
No reply.
The rooorter did not hope for any, but walked up 10
the table so that he might support his 'renOine
limbs against IT, - m. .,.s -.
aTbe Tribune Mr.. Withers," he began, SIS tired OF
r,bushinc rumors We want facts. Can you obhge
Ms with some information about Monmouth ParKf
"What sort of infornatonF"
Are you going to race there this seasonF
al don't know"
ave understand that you trying to prove that the
law Of 1887. under which you might race, Is con-
sututonal notwithstanding the decision OF the lower
courts as to its unconstitutionality."
al have no doubt about its consttutonality. L
did have We have secured the best legal talent
in the State and advised that 1t Is cohSu'uOoi"
"When will the case be decided?
"some time in June-time enough 10 geI reauS i0i
the opening of the meeting" ,,
sDo Won think it will be decided in your taVorf
@Oh can't say. You can't tell wilat tlleSe COURTS
are going TO do"
Courtlandt Parker Senator Gliggs and an ex
Chancellor of the state are among Mr. Witi'efs's
counsel. A.. 80
norter continued tell us the truth about IT, we
have heard all sorts of stories, and know not WHICH
to believe" l.. all,
sweu III tell you the truth. I didn't want to tell
you anything. haven't seen newspaper Ni"n LII
n
aTbe boys knew you Ill and WOULDN'T oother
ro,, resides. they are ali afraid of you. We don't
dare TO go near YOU
ayes, yes" - .,..
Around the corners Of the stern mouth there fitted
a faint suggestion Of SMILE the only one tle reiorO''
ever saw on Mr. Withers's face
ais 1t true that you have leased Jerome ParKT
alt is"
elbow long have you held the lease''
aOh. the negotiations have been going on for some
time"
"When was the lease signed-recently%
eyes, recently"
"Within day two7'
"YeS within a day or two"
The terms are S35 900 for the season.
as it true that the most important stakes are to
be run of at Morris Park 2"
Yes Mr. Morris has very kindly offered US his
track He will not use up the thirty days allowed
by law and we shall take what is left. 1t was his
Jerome Park, with its narrow track and many turns,
is not suited to the large fields that will go to the
most in some OF our stakes. We shall do what we
can to keep faith with horse-owners; we Shall Try
10 redeem promises"
That settles it, Mr.. Withers has Jerome PARK and
Morris Park to fail back on in case he cannot race
at Monmouth
The reporter then brought up Inspector Byrnes's
charges about the fund for closing the poolrooms
ais IL true he asked Z" that the Jockey clubs con-
tributed a fu d to close the poOlroomsP
"What fund.- What fund.-
"why Mr.. Byrnes says that the clubs subscribed
$4,000 TO SOS, 900 for that purpose
Il know nothing about any fund. Who got the
money? What was il contributed for7 Did the police
get it,"
aMr. Byrnes declares that the police did not receive
cent"
"Then who got It'll"
9Tbat is lust what we should like to know
eI know nothing about 1t. There was no fund.-
is II not true that you tried to close the poorooms
Or in fact, did close them? ?"
Il know that the pOolrooms were Closed
aDo you know who closed them9"
81 understand that Pinkerton had something TO 90
with It,"
didn't the Jockey clubs raise money for the pur-
posei'
@The clubs raised money for legal advice and ex
penses."
did Monmouth contributor
Yes we contributed for legal expenses
How much did Monmouth contributed"
ooh, don't know. 1 never bothered my head
about it,"
4Do YOU intend to keep the poolrooms closed this
yeari7
~ shall have nothing to do with It, nothing to do
with it,"
That was ALL General Manager Croft entered the
room and the reporter withdrew. During the inter
view Mr.. Wthers kept his pen In his hand with the
point the paper, as If he was anxious 10 go on
with his writing; nevertheless he submitted TO the
oIdeal with amazing patience
Philip Dwyer after shaking hands with D. G. X.
Lawrence over the bloody chasm went TO the once OF
the Brooklyn Jockey Club, and there the reporter
found him al O'clock in company OF Alderman