The evening world., 1891-11-27

william L. Harding, OF the Pottce Gazette,
says:
"An amateur athlete is one who does not
enter into public or private competition for
stake, admission money or entrance fee.
"I never considered the Yale and Princeton
football players as amateurs anyway. They
play for honor and the money that can be
made out OF the game, and by 50 doing make
themselves professionals.
81 held an athletic exhibition somo time
ago. Bona-iide amateurs, II there are any
competed. They did not compete with pro-
fessionals, but among themselves.
"They were afterwards protested because
they had taken part in games where an en-
trance fee was charged.
ut may be argued that because the indi
vidual members OF the team do not receive
actual money for their work that their case
is different. They are members Of the asso-
citation, which does receive the money, and
consequently they are as deep in the mud as
the association is In the mire."
". b. CURTIS TAKKs pIFPERENr VIEW.
". b. Curtis, OF the Board OF Governors OF
the Amateur Athletic Union OF the United
States, says:
~ do not think there ia any question about
the matter at all. The players do not receive
any money-not O cent. The football associa-
tions to which the teams belong receive all
the money and 1t is laid out in perfecting and
aiding the sport. They simply rent the
grounds and use them.
"The football game yesterday was no more
professional than the games Of the Manhat-
tan Athletic Club will be tomorrow night.
1t has become universal custom to charge
admission at amateur events, and 1t does not
MAKE man q professional because he Is
competitor"
~ cannot agree with the proposition that
the contract with the Manhattan Athletic
club makes the Yale and Princeton football
players professional athletes" said Mr..
Curtis.
"Thc percentage OF the receipts which the
Club holds is merely rent for Its ground. In
stead of being o fixed sum 1t was a part OF
the receipts agreed on.
"The Manhattan Athletic Club holds its
indoor games In Madison Square Garden to-
morrow night. 1t will pay $1,000 rent for
the use OF the Garden and will charge an ad-
mission fee to secure the money with which
to pay the rent. The participants In the
games Will not he considered professionals.
81 do not consider that the fact that the
Yale and Princeton Athletic Associations
agree to pay their rent In some other way
puts them in the light OF playing for money
consideration, and makes them PROFESSIONALS
ARTHUR LuALEy TAKES THE OTHER SIDE.
Arthur Lumley, OF the Illustrated Se,os,
said: cannot see how the Yale and Prince
ton players can be considered anything but
professionals.
"They competed for the gate money In
directly, II tney uId not DO 30 directly. ANA
teur rules 40 not state how large sum q
man must receive to be professional.
"If the Football Associations gets the
money, and the team receives any financial
beneflt, they are professionals, and that's all
there is to 1t.
There are no amateurs anyhow. They
all compete where admission is charged"
SECRETARY sULLIvAS's OPINION.
James L. Sullivan, Secretary OF the Metro
politan Association OF the Amateur Athletic
Union, said:
"The members OF the football teams OF
Yale and Princeton colleges have not been
rendered professionals because they played
that game up at Manhattan Field yesterday.
"They did no more than all the amateur
athletic clubs do. The members OF the team
did not receive any compensation. They did
not play for any.
"The athletic clubs give their outdoor
games and charge admission. but because
men compete In them that does not make
them professionals. That practice Is recog-
nized as legitimate"
SAYS THERE ARE NO AMATEURS.
Alexander Cunningham, sporting editor OF
the Illustrated Nesss, q well-known authority
on sporting matters, said:
al do not think there is such thing as an
amateur. They are amateurs only In name,
and that name has lost its significance.
"The amateur athletic clubs hold exhipi-
tions where admission is charged and the
competitors receive some benent, directly or
indirectly.
:" The football game was conducted on the
same plan. 1t would be different II they
should give the receipts OF the game TO char
ity, but that's just what they don't do. They
use It to pay their expenses, and each one of
the players is benefited In some way"
THE RECEIPTS ESTIMATED AT $4,000
| Although the accounts have not yet been
completely made up ana audited, 1t is possi-
bic to calculate pretty closely from careful
estimates or the attendance and the proceeds
OF the previous sale or reserved seats and car
riagc privileges, what the total receipts OF
yesterdays game were.
! This figure is In the neighborhoOd OF $780,
COO, and upon this basis, according to the
division OF the proceeds previously agreed
upon between the Manhattan Athletic Club
and the Yale and Princeton football man.
ayers, there Will be paid over to each OF the
college associations something more than
$4,000.
All the reserved seats and boxes both on
the grand stand, and on stand ., as well as
the carriage and coach stalls. were sold more
than a week before the game. The premiums
paid at the auction sales held at the Manhat-
tan Athletic club, all go into the general
fund, and are subject TO the final division or
the spois.
BIG PREMIUMS PAID FOR SEATS.
From the sale OF the thirty boxes In the
grand stand the sum OF 1000 was realized,
and IRON the other reserved seats IN the
grand ST and, with premiums, the additional
sum OF $4,000.
The carriage and coach stalls brought In
al ioo and he g. 600 reserved spats on stand