New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-03-03
POSTAL BILLS PASSED.
THE SENATE ACCEPTS THE NAIL SUBSIDY
BILL ALREADY PASSED BY THE HOUSE.


sentavcs as the best compromise on shipping legiss
,on possble of attainment at this late stage OF the
session and the House measure was accordingly con
curred in by vote Of 81 to 80. Mr.. Frye, WHO hdu
cot through the Senate so shlfuly last summer Do''
the Postal Subsidy and the Tonnage Bounty plis was
Ioath TO accept the rather shrunken SUBSTITUTE sem
back last week by the House, and he ana rev o"ci
more adventurous friends Of the Tonnage Dill Joilou
with the out-and-out opponents Of both bills 10 non
concur with the House and send the whole suoJYo'
matter into conference The Republican leaders soi
erally however, favored concurrence tue ho''o. "
accent the House bill coming from the chairman "a Vi0
Finance Committee, and being supported oS on "
Republican members. Messrs carlisle anu nv e~i,
also voted TO concur as the most satisfactory
=. .ho controversy. The Republicans who fol
lowed Mr.. FRYE were his colleague, MI liale'
GA ,osers Cameron Mitchell, Moody' Fe'u'
crew Plumb, Teller and Wolcot' VI ohes'
norbans three or four were hostile TO any shipping
legislation. 49,. u.,.,ou, ~
When Mr. Frye called up the House amendment 10
the TONNAGE Subsidy bill he moved to non-cohcur ~
the amendment and that the conerreeS asked by 'he
House be granted. ,,,o
Mr. Reagan expressed the wish that the House
amendment be concurred in, rather than that tho
danger Of more Objectionable bill from the confer
ence committee be incurred.
Mr. Morrill, moved to concur in the House ddneiiu'
ment.
of subsidies and stated his objections TO lneh Inc
nbsidv did not apply merely TO vessels to be built
hereafter The Red star Line with four Amencah-DuV
ships running from Philadelphia, would receive laiS
subsidy without expendng single dollar even lor I0
pars: and the Pacific Mall Company "oWu IcoeNe
5000 900 wear without any further expenditure lhese
omnonies were already making money without the au
from the Treasury. But at the risk OF appearing III
consistent he willing, if it would terminate ','O
matter and prevent bringing worse. 10 agree 10 'io
House amendment. . 81. Tina
Mr Cameron stated that, as TO the Red Star Line
il had been doing business at a loss -,
Mr. Mcpherson characterized the proceeding do V''
most extraordinary one that he hao ever soo" q"
tempted IN tie senate. Ii the application oI
uac law in the most offensive form. The senate was
not TO be permitted TO vote on the pfOposlo'i'
had never been before the Senate. Ana sun was "
he referred TO a conference committee thA' "oulu
mako report which would have TO be accepted Ut 10
iected without amendment He made tine poihV Vi
order that 1t was incompetent 10 eomHhl '"0 O'' '"
conference committee.
The Vice President overruled the point OF ORDER
An appeal was taken from the ruling and the appear
was on the motion Of Mr. Frye, laid on tue taoe' wiz"
out division. The question being on MI N.orTlH
motion 10 concur in the House amendment HessrS'
Coclre Harris and Reagan stated their Intention 10
vote against il and Mr. Vest stated his intention ~
vote for IT, because otherwise it certain tat inc
conference report would make worse bill.
Mr. Frye stated that in his judgment TWO 'lnss
were absolutely necessary for the rcVlVai VI 'i'o
American merchant marine one was swirl, CERTAIN
communication for the mails between the Cned states
and other countries. In providing for ths shpS Wouu
also DO provided as auxillaries 10 the Navy ana lo
that Great Britain paying $4,000 snip outside
of her mail contracts. BY The Postal SUBSIDY bill
these two things were provided for, swift mall COM
lnunlcaton and the furnishing of auxllarcs ior tho
Navy, by which millions of dollars would DC saved
There was no doubt about that The House amend
ment would do that but other tinG was absolutely
necessary and that was that American freighuh5
ships should be put in way or other, on level
with the reighting ships of the world. To-day every
American frcighting steamer competing, without
any protection with the vessels Of spain, Italy, Ger
many and France, all of them having heavy bountcs
and heavy subsidies. Even with postal
subsidy act, the United States could not
help its merchant marine, because Of that compet-
ton. A sxteen-bnot ship was not a freight ship y
twenty knot ship could not carry freight twenty
knot ship required 800 tons Of coal day, and 100
men to handle her. si1teenSnot ship required 2OO
tons OK coal day, and 12O men, NO such SHIPS could
possibly compete with ten or twelve knot ships III
carving freight. lie believed that II the House
amendment were nonconcured ill., and if the bill were
Sent 10 conference provisions could be made that would
be acceptable 70 both sides of the chamber lie hoped
that tho Senate would noncOncur in the House amend
ment and send the matter to a committee OF confer
ence where there could be another trial
Mr. Carlisle expressed himself in favor Of agreeing
10 the House amendment, lest q worse ProP0sltoi
might come from the conference committee.
Mr. Hale favored dsagreeiDg to the House amend
Iuent and letting the matter go 70 conference com
nttce in the hope that a law might be enacted ina
would help the great commercial marine Oh the country
Mr. Hav,ley expressed himself In favor Of the liousi
amendment, because he saw chance IN IL LOT 'oh
gress to do something; and he would rather taAc i
risk nj a
He knew how fierce the opposition was and he did MOI
wish 10 run risks
Mr. German announced his intention TO vote asains
the House amendment. The mere fact that some
thing worse was threatened was possible would no
have The slightest effect upon him. lie would vote
let the matter go to conference coHlmltice III IN
hope in the first place, Of getting something better
That was the ordinary process in the conduct oi publ
hns;ness The majority would have TO take the re
spoDsibnity. lie would not be driven TO vote Tor
imposition which he regarded as eXtravagant AM
wrong simply because some gentlemen desired 10 Pre-
pose "a more mOnstrous proposition
Mr. Aldrich expressed his purpose to vote to cohcu
in the House amendment-nOt in spirit Of Antagonist
To the Tonnage BILL but because he believed 1t was In
only thing possible for Congress 10 DO lilo sugGcste
IN Mr. FRYE that If the matter went to conference
would be in the power Of a single senator 70 uele"
any legislation in that direction Ia thS congress
Mr. Dawes and Mr.. Stewart concurIed IN the VIC"
expressed BIZ Mr.. Hawey and Mr.. Aldrch
Ne Ru,ler expressed his purpose to vote against IN
motion TO concur,
Mr.. Evarts said that, for the great interest OF tn
state OF New York in the subject, he should vote
concur in the House amendment.
Mr. Coke said he opposed to subsidies III an
form. and would vote against the House amendment.
Mr. Vest moved 10 amend 10y inserting proviso
re,e9llng the law which prevents the purchase ana u'
OF foreign SHIPS THIS was disagreed t-}edS -
Mr. Vest offered another amendment winch was j
said a bill introduced by Mr.. Dawes In loyO, suspend
INC for ion wears the laws against free ships Tor III
foI,. gu trade. This also disagreed tO-ycas =
nays 40. -. .oo.,rs,
contracts for carrying the mail 70 have the approval
Concress Disagreed to-yeas 20, nays 10.
AnOfber amendment by Mr. Mcpherson, conhnin
the operations OF tue bill 10 Central and south Amenc