The Newberry herald and news. (Newberry, S.C.) 1884-1903, 1891-06-25
MEN AND MEASURES.
Congressman Tillman. Says the Third
Party Is Republican Scheme and
the Sub-Treasury is all Nonsense.
1Charleston w orld.

SPAETANBURG, June lS.-H0n.
George d. Tillman, member OF congress
from the second district, is in the city.
He is spending the time with his sisters,
Mrs. Swearingen and Mrs. Simpson.
Your correspondent called on him this
afternoon. Mr.. Tillnlan said he had no
desire to appear in print at this time
but that he had very positive convic-
tions on a great many measures now
before the people. He intimated that
he proposed to take Il very active part
in the doings of the next congress, and
that he would be heard from.
Several topics of g: eatinterest at this
time were discussed and therepresenta-
tive spoke out in uumistakable tcnes
on each. The writer feels sure he will
not be a betfayer if, in a general way,
he gives the substance Of the conversa-
ton.
The first thing your correspondent
mentioned to Mr.. Tillman was the
Third party. He said: THAT is only
the first movement on the part Of the
Western Republicans, which will soon
land them safe in the Democracy. They
are not willing to acknowledge that
they have been in error for thirty years,
and only talk Third party to sort Of
ease their conscience, as they think it
would never do to enter the Democratic
party horse foot and dragoon."
The correspondent then asked what
had caused the Western Republicans to
desire a change. He replied with en-
phasis: "Self interest, heavy taxes, not
enough money and the domination, for
so long, by eastern capitalists
He thought the third party would
never amount,to anythingin the South,
or anywhere else; that it was Matched
out by and is under the patronage Of
impractical men, great many Of whom
have made failure Of everything they
have ever undertaken,
"What about free coinage of silver?"
was suggested. -,
"My position on that measure is well
known" said Mr.. Tillmau. Il stood
by it when the entire delegation from
this State, except w. H. Perry, was
opposed to it," He declared his abid-
ing faith in the success of the measure.
Your correspondent then timidiy
suggested the ''sub-treasury scheme"
THE merest nonsense" said he, "a
day-dream, with positively nothing in
it; patched out by a set of fcomparative-
ly inexperienced men in a short time,
when it would have taken congress
several months, using its best equipped
brain, to have originated any measure
anything like that"
The conversation gradually drlfted
from the political measures to men. He
thought Cleveland.stands no chance at
all for the nomination, and would Ger
calmly be defeated if nominated. Ou!-
side of the fact that he thought Cleve-
land is not the man for the office, he
said no army liked to follow defeated
general.
"Wno will receive the nomination."
swell, that depends somewhat. If
Campbell carries Ohio at the next elec-
ton, 1 would not he surprised if he
should be nominated; if not then Hill
will get it; either New York or Ohio.
German will not be selected. He comes
from too small state"
"What effect does that have on an
election?"
ut is estimated to be worth from
three to five per cent. of the popular
vote"
Mr.. Tillman thought Pattison stood
no chance, coming from Pennsylvania,
which is ever republican in national
elections. He considers Gov. Campbell
splendid man, good organizer, fine
politician, a man who had made con-
siderable money, honestly too, and a
man with q clean record
"What about the speakership of the
next house"'
II think Crisp, will be elected; 7 con-
slider him the best qualified and ablest
man. Wilson, of West Virginia, comes
from too small State-only four votes
though he is the most scholarly man
in the house."
An allusion was made incidentally to
the fight in his own district and the
effort made to defeat him. He said they
had been trying to do that all the while,
but that he had never been defeated for
all Office, and never expected to be. He
is hale and hearty, and his age rests
lightly on his shoulders. He leaves TO-
day for his home.