The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1891-10-16
DENOUNCE ROMANISM
Its Position Discussed by the
Methodist Council.
ROME AND THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS
There VIII be the Battleground-The Church
in Politics-Reformation Or Extinc.
tion Is Before Her.


first business was further consideration of
the report of the business committee in re-
spouse to the memorial on Methodist feder-
alton, and DR.. Stephenson in behalf of the
committee made an explanation of the pur-
pose IN reporting the resolutions and sug-
gested few alterations in the original
text.
In the debate over the resolution DIR.
Leonard, OF New York, insisted upon recog-
milton by the chair, although the floor was
already accorded to DIR. King. A scene OF
disorder ensued and nothing could be done
IN the way Of business. Considerable
warm feeling was shown as the doctor still
persisted in claiming the floor The disorder
swelled and the British delegates indig-
nantly protested against the interruption
OF the proceedings. Or. Leonard finally
abandoned his effort to make point of
order and DR.. King moved to adjourn the
debate Oh the resolution until tomorrow.
Carried.
Rev. NJ T. Myers, of the primitive
Methodist Episcopal church, spoke at
length upon 1.-The Present Position of
Romanism.n In the course of his remarks
he said the present occupant of the chair
OF st. Peter is man in every way worthy
OF his position, but disseminated; he lives
to regain temporal power lost more than
twenty years ago. But if we are not
mistaken there is no need to fear any at
tempt on the part of Romanism to usurp
temporal power either in Great Britain or
America. For once b holiness has spoken
out with an intelligence and precision that
must command respect. His encyclical
touches questions that lie at the basis of
our social fabric, which will have to be
faced and dealt with by both church and
state. But the subject of education is that
most likely to form the battle-ground be-
tween the great contendiDg parties into
which we are naturally dividing ourselves
both in England and America. Make all
| the churches equal with the state, give all
fair play, and if in the race Romanism can
outrun US we shall have only ourselves to
blame, and on the head of Protestant
| Christendom be the eternal disgrace.
| 1t Is universally admitted new era of
clearer light is bursting upon US. AS the
| light increases Rome moves in parallel
lines and tries hard to show she is in favor
of the right and liberties Of man as man.
Reformation or extinction is before her.
! Red as she is with the blood of the martyrs,
we would charitaoly hope that in the ad-
vancing light which will beat upon thrones
and rulers and governments, Rome may
see her deformity and be led to penitence
and reformation.
In view of the impending struggle, one
| thing is all but essential to the success of
the cause of truth and the speedy realiza-
ton of all the hopes of our common faith, a
united Methodism.
Rev DR.. Fiske, of Albion, Mich. spoke
on 'Romanism as a Political Power"
Viewed historically, he said, the Roman
church appears as the most determined
and at times the mightiest political
power on the face of the earth. Palliate
1t much as we may, hers has been career
of attempted usurpation of political pre-
negatives. In these United States she has
been persistent in her demands for share
pro rata, of our state school funds for the
support of her parochial schools. At the
polls and in the courts she has sought tt
eject the Bible from the public schools, 81
that under the plea that they were God
less, to destroy them. Her priests are
known to dictate at political elections. Blu
the political vanity of Romanism is becom
ing depleted. There are intelligen
Catholics in this country, like Carolina
Gibbons and Archbishop Ireland, WIN
plainly see if the church is to flourish, ant
get most out OF the times as they SWEEP
, onward, she must not waste her energies il
an unequal fight with enlightened and pro
gressiYe civilization, but must clasp hand
with it and make it her ally.
Rev. Nicholas, of the Irish Methods
Episcopal church, delivered an address OF
''Romanism as a Religious Power" H
that there is much that is true and good il
the Church of Rome, and he desired thi
4 admission to modify, SO far as necessary
. his further statements. Rome is intoler
= ant, but in one direction only-intoleran
8 toward independent thought, but ever LEM
e ent towards superstition. The belief i
g ecclesiastical miracles Rome uses as an ex
q pediency and often lets it degenerate int
deception. Rome has addressed herself t
q lei
= realization of invisible things not denyin
e that she in different ages and lands ha
Y done good work. Her influence on tn
d whole is and has been evil. She has lie
many to skepticism, the natural reboup
from superstition. She has produced re
Iigion more devotional than moral and hin
), dered the progress of humanity In SUI
port of the view that Rome is morbid ma
} be cited her. inability 10 maintain her rel;
'r tive position in the mission field the con
A paratively small number of her adherents
: English speaking people; her loss of poll
la ical power and loss of numbers in imm
,e grants to the United States. On the otht
IS hand may be cited her progress in Englar
E. and her increasing number of church,
and schools, universities and religion
ID houses and the zeal of her priests and PEI
Is pie. Rome is still vigorous and the confli
IL will be long, but the issue is not uncertai
r The Evangelical churches need to have
j. their wits about them.
rs At the afternoon session the gener
es topic was temperance. Rev. DR.. Mason
the Methodist Episcopal church of t
south read a paper upon the subject
church and temperance reform. I
,a church, he said, must serve the cause
temperance first by total abstinence on |
d part of the ministry and membership
re the church from all participation in t
e. LIQUOR traffic. The church should be SAT-
re lied with nothing less than the entire abt
!, ition of the liquor traffic as carried @
M but the church should assume no polite
ho attitude with respect to prohibitiC
- Christian men in their relations as eli
5 zens should seek to obtain such practl
= legislation on the part of the state as sh
= forever abolish the saloon. Thomas Wor
~ ington was not one of those who believ
y w Christians should keep out of politi
q If there were more Christian men
% public life it would improve the charac
~ of American legislative bodies.
~, Rev. j. G. Simmons, of the Method
VI Episcopal church of Santa Rosa, Cal, "
WI the next speaker against the liquor traf
.ai He said the Methodists had been firing
IS shadows and making great rents at tn
own houses while the wolf is DESTROY
our children.
John H. Lille, OF England, held Wesle
rule obliged ministers to be total absta
ich ers and he insisted on that proposition L
Ia. withstanding Mr.. Atkinson, M. P,
:. si.ted Lille misquoted Wesley, that he p
20 hibited only dram-drinking. Atkins
ere CIV aot;o,, nit ss;ranostars,, 1919
mediately stirred up the Indignation o.
delegates from that church, they dema
ing retraction and threatening to wi
vas draw from the conference.
en- Mr. Stephenson and other Wesley
: of were beseeching Atkinson to withdraw
zed remark and apologize. He bluntly refu
to do so, asserting he had nothing to ap,