The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1891-07-11

from him 100000 for Mr.. Wanamaker in
March. 1890. he said. was absolutely I'M
true aud without the slightest foundation,
and invited the committee to inspect his
books.
Mr.. Wanamaker was then informed by q
member of the committee that during their
examination of the stock-boOk OF the Key
stone Bank they found 1890 shares of stock
In his name. in addition 10 the 2.5lo shares
which he testified had been given him by
Lucast to use as collateral for IA deal IN Read
ing stock.
"When | appeared before this committee
BEFORE" said Mr.. Wanamaker. Il confined
myself principally to the business OF the
firm in my deals with Lucas IN Reading
stock. ] had in my head certain private
matters hut did not suppose the committee
wanted to hear of private operations" Mr.
Wanamaker then again referred to The
2.515 saares which he had held as collateral
and gave the committee a list OF those he
had turned over to the Lucas estate. That
some of those shares had been at one time
in his name he did not state. as he had not
used them In any operation.
THE STOCK FoUND AT THE BANK.
In regard to the stock which had been
found in his name, CPS shares of it. Mr..
Wanamaker said. was held by Irwin 81 To-
land, his bankers. as collateral. This re-
duced it to two thousand shares of stock.
Va thCoC Nv bAOCho " WV uuhiO Sho
each were dated March 3, 1856, and. while
issued in his name. the power of attorney
bad never been ind orsed by him. and they
could never have been used. OF these
shares he lad absolutely no knowledge.
The next lot. five blocks of two hundred
shares each. were dated four weeks earlier.
Feb. y, 1886. He was a director In the Grand
Trnst Company. and Lucas came TO him
and asked him to obtain him a loan of $40
900 on the stock. II nave been just foolish
enough" said Mr.. Wanamaker. 'all my life
to do those things. and / got the money on
the stock and gave 1t to him. A consider
able time ard it was paid off by tho
Lucas estate, and they got tho stock back"
Mr.. Wanamaker also presented the COM
mittce with a letter from John l.. Lucas.
dated May 2S, 1856, Inclosing a check to pay
the interest on this loan. lot the other
unused five blocks of stock" said Mr.. w an
amaker, my impression Is that MIR. Lucas
at first intended TO ask for a larger loan
and so issued them. 1t was never nsed.
however. as It could not have been with
out my Endorsement. | know of no other
stock. but l remember that ten years ago,
when Lucas was ecurIng control of the
bank, he came To me and said he ala not
want people to know who certain stock be-
longeu TO, and, for a time, he placed some
i'm my name. In regard 10 certificate No.
$50. which was transferred by Ill. H.. Bard
to Scudder * Durham. of Trenton. that is
a part of the stock on which the loan from
the trust company was secured, and after
the Lucas estate got 1T back it was very
likely passed over to Yard again to raise
money on"
Mr.. Wanamaker then again went over at
some length the transaction in Reading In
which John G.. Lucas was O partner, and
said that when the settlement was made
President Marsh admitted in the presence
Of three witnesses that the Lucas estate
owed him sl5.G o The fact that some of
the certificates held "a collateral by Irwin
N Toland were dated after Lucas's death.
10 said, was due to the fact that the broker
would not handle them while in q dead
mans name. In closing his testimony Mr..
Wanamaker read letters from Controller
Lacey and Assistant Secretary Nettleton to
show that he had never Influenced nor de-
layed the appointment for an instant OF q
receiver for the keystone Bank.
After the hearing of the Council commit
tee MIR. Robert Alexander. counsel for John
Bardsley. was asked If be had any informa-
tion or iutimation from MIR. Bardsley con-
corning the statements made by Mr. Me-
Wade. Mr.. Alexander said: II think in
Justice to him ] will submit for publication
a letter which | received from him some
days ago. The letter was not intended, j
should say, for publications"
My Dear Mr.. Alexander inclose an editorial
and news item. 1 see Mckean is willing to go
before the committee. Iou remember told you
NcWade came here as (. friend and an old friend,
a:ld said that he canae notifom the paper; (!
told him some of the things that | had heard, but
told him very plainly that | did not know Of the
truth of the things we spoke of. 1t now appears
that he left me and wrote out q lot OF stun.
What il Ia I do not know. He may have put
words in my mouth that 1 never uttered and
thought of. What had you better dot / do not
want TO be made the medium Of putting out a lot
1 %e rra amd Ii / fEope / % may be a'u spared from being
made the avenue OF such work.
JoHS BARDsLEY.