The Helena independent. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1875-1943, 1891-11-30

In and out or the established churohs II ha
Just an steadily advanced. Thers u still
Igood deal OF reason rum TO reed In England
4 good deal Of free thought and much spi,
ituRl ignorance among the ovcrworkas
massss. hut We All making u steady head
way against that. III ron could 80 anon
London w~oskinemen 40 do yom would 40
this. There ara moro than 1,boo,0N Cathc
lios in England now,a and they are inorsas
practice their religion"
And the other churehesY'
"Ah, my ron, !" said the cardinal, smiling
", II am too old to throw stones. II Is n,
part of my duty to ~criticise those b ar
without our linea.N
Then the question of temreranosc came up
"Enaland sober said the aged church
man, 'is England happy and ~contented. II
we could make the English workman q tota
ahstainer, We could settle the most seriou'
of the social prohlems that confront us now
/ have worked toward this end for yer,
many wears, and with some success. But !
In u light against odds, The drunkenness
and the misery growing out of 1t hare II
London make my heart sick ut times. Blu
the Catholic church Is against the traffic II
rum, and will continue to be, and time Wal
tell many things. Here in London on
priests are preaching total abstinence al
the time and to considerable effect. / am
glad to notice the strength of the same
movement in America"
The cardinal takes n very hopeful view
Of the labor outlook, and he il pecuiiarl,
competent to spssk in the matter. In hi
opin workingren and their employers
are coming together all the time.
When employers extend exact Justice to
their workmen and vice versa we will be
through with labor troubles i'll the MAN,"
ho said, "trom a basis of common Justice
both may arise TO u better understanding,
ana | thing such an era is approaching.
Thu position of the Catholic church 10
plain. Leo XIII in his old age is giving his
whole mind to these questions. In Amer
lca Cardinal Gibbons Is doing all he can TO
improve the relations between labor aud
capital, and here in England we are doing
tho same. Then you will noticc everywhere
a tendency to arbitrate whore it is at all
possible. Take it all in all, l see no reason
TO fear for the future"
On the Irish question as on others, Car
dinal Manning's opinions are clear cut. He
did not discuss persons but spoke gener-
ally.
II am an Englishman you know to the
corc and l am not a geparatist,' he said,
'.but I know and love the Irish people.
been governed by force. Injustice naturally
provoked evil passions. Kind and equal
laws would long ago have settled the Irish
question, and it il only by extending such
that tranquility will be thoroughly re-
stored to that country"
The Cardinal did not seem to think over
of an Irish parliament, as it is gener-
ally understood. He seemed to favor a
Chamber that would attend to merely local
legislation. He was not inclined to discuss
the present split in the Irish party, but con-
himself with saying that he thought
in the end the Irish would work out their
own salvation. &|
# IL a,,o1.o - AI,n o1rcokforo ~, oc&;or
and on it took the ground usually held by
orthodox Catholics, and in the end he said
in the clear, precise nanne that is charae-
.teristic of the man:
81 have no faith in an mathematician
religion. L means a shape that shape
hath none.'o NJ
AT this point in our conversation the oar
great deal Of time, 80 I arose to 60. The
aged prslate did the same.
"Tell the American people, he said, 'to
fear God and make their country a prospar-
ous land, inhabited by God-fearlng people.
blessing upon all men," and I left him
that benediction.
Very interesting is a trip through the
cardinals house. In the chapel is 4 glass
case with an especially valuable collection
of relics. among them being the white silk
of Thomas a'Becket. Then in a
piece of CRYSTAL is a fragment of the column
against which our Lord Is said to have been
and three small pieces of wood
Behold the wood of the cross on which
our Saviour was hung"
In another room there are many busts
and works of art. There is a statue of the
Virgin. made from cannon taken at Sehas-
and a large number of testimonials
given to the cardinal from time TO time,
the latest being one presented by the Jews
last October. The cardinals bedroom is
on the top of the house, and is the p~lainest
Of all. A camp bed, a wardrobe. a chair
and a washstand are the articles Of furni-
ture. ADJOINING this ia the cardinals ora
tory in which is set up a small altar at
he says mass. There is another near
by tor the use of visiting bishops. ~.
Such are the surroundings of the head of
the Roman Catholic hierarchy in Great
and such the mode of his life now
drawing to a peaceful close. Certainly it
been one that men of any or of no sect
can scarcely fail to admire for it's simplicity
and usefulness. The appointment of a CO.
to Cardinal Manning does not mean
that the a%ppointes would succeed to the
red hat on Cardinal Manning's death. The
o~ardinalate may be left vacant indefinitely
and probably will be.
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