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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-02-28
Tie Louisville AND NAsmyILLE RAIL.

'oAD COMPANY ha- Grated per cont unified
.''-'., limited in amount o. s55O00GO0. secured upon
~ main 'inr aa1 ZION all t, line, the states Of Ken
lucky and Tennessee. mc'uduc the Cincinnati Division,
ana Iuitht secuted b. deposit with the Trustee Of Load,
"u 'ha- " the ioEinal amount Of S23suS 100, ihlGlIn1
majority u.c Jr- Of all tAr important lines which the
i'''l' and Nashville Company controls by stock owner
mp on part OF which sc.uitic-. however, t" Fi33i00o
!'io adIn,tucns bond, (Which BE- redeemed after NOl.
l. 1881 ale dlc1dy lien.
~ h' pr ,ont L. flied Morcico E0nd thu, ate1.
e have been set altc provide for the payment ard
Junction 81 prior bonds al $4,000, OF which amount
- $1,000 owned bv the Company The interest the
outstanding bond, amounts about - 100000 aum,
NhIr tc het from the lines noIteagei under the
I"h'd N"i.acc layr been du..n- the scal year loSJ
Ie"o about - 10000.
Ihe Decd oi Trust under which the per nihcd
h"I' have been cheated limits the i~go t' first iu
a'ah'" 10 100000 for tn corporate pIpo. ct the
company, and restrict, further issues Of bonds 40 pro-
VIDE" that bonds may be- issued only in t>chanec for
Outstanding older liens for construction extern
s"h or further property acquired for tnc distinct pur
poses set out specifically In the noaagc Ia each case
h' bonds issued under the supervision ana aUthnti
cilon 81 tine Central must Company, and an prop
'Ity OF whatever nature constructed acquired. AGAINST
which bonds issued. j. covered the lien o.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1891-02-28
moit-as". IT DISTINCTLY HTiPi LATE~ THAT
NONE OF THE OUTSTANDING PRIOR LIENS CAN
DE ENrENDED, But MUST BE REPLACED At
ltTi R1Fi BY THE PER CENT. UNIFIED BONDS.

Of u. mortgage e7OlLo,OO, OF which the 900 now
Offered form part.
The -hie capital 81 the Louisville and Nashville Rail.
road Company /, $4,000. 900. The company hi,
number 81 year, used surpu, fpr the Improvement cd
the property and ad its iG"Hd, I'm stool. but IT, last
dis nd or hplf year cuGa, December 81 800 wa,
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Foreign Notes OF Real Interest.

fOrebRn NOteS Ou ASeAl INTEREST.
The population of BeRium amounted on the last day
Of December 10 6.l47O4i. Brussels has about $4,000
Inhabitants
French drummsrs are to be excluded from Alsscs
Lorraine. AMI tho French speak OF shutting German
drummers out Of France.
Mrs. Burne Jones suggests that people with hne
picture. should lend them to the public galleries
during the when they regularly out town
rOsnche %r,tung takes . very gloomy view Of the
economic situation OF Germany. There 10 great desti
tuition among The lower classes Of the high
price of provisions
Until recently tho phyloxera has spared the Cham
payne country. but at last has appeared, and the
.,7'D land proprietors in that district now In .
syndicate for mutual protection.
MIR. W. 7. stead. who has been apologiXinz for the
Prince Of Wales suggests that for time passing he
should DO made the head OF commission TO elaborate
. normal standard OF the necessities OF civilization"
Very interesting news comes from . late London
meeting OF Theosophsts to arrange for the
vention. Mr. Sinneu derlursd that tho hal ar.
rived for partial publication Of tho ssoteric learning
OF thsosophy. The world Ia ready forit
II. de Lessspa who has retired ~ force Of circum-
stances from being l: dnd Ea,idix is SAID 10 be
ceeded by NJ dEnnery. littirateur. play wright. and
collector of brc.s.brac. who occupies . considerable
place In the maRinA . Of the rarissnA
The Oldest church in Europe 10 SAID BY who arc
discussing the question to he St. Martina Canterbury
which built church before the end Of the fourth
century. st. Margin the Castle. Dover built about
this time for nearly hundred years IL was used
=. . ,.rr.on final denot
~ p,.., hro,h.,. oh. 80, ,s .~,,
.... nmn,o,.n,n ,n Er.,.,a mi. 49,. ~. ...
-. 80 ~ n, ,n,or.h,n a.. go, ~. ~, 's 80. y.
""o o",a p.n.h.w. u'...,. ~ =. .s.s' ~" o'".'
...,s,. =. 81, ,h.n, .n.-, ur,... ~. ~ ~.
p' s''.s' w. '' a.. 80. ' "' ''ns us
"usN'""s
10 tho Pope for protection from the tig that
are arriving 'nom ou' VI "A"o ihsy ask MS ho'ins'"
t"Io1mua.e so"o 20" wi .pens 'h' Jaw OF Justice
ana ch"t'' 10 'he Hesu'" y, uA"e ana composition
10 tua tno "'s ssn ''o ~ 'ho presence OF the
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Alliance Legislation.

The Hon. JOHN GRIFFIN CARLISLE is not
one OF the weak sisters that have wilted be-
fore the fuss and fury OF the Farmers
Alliance. He has exposed and refuted its
financial WITNESSES and his Socratic ques-
tioning OF delegation from the Peoples
party showed with how little knowledge
and with what superficial and hasty thought
the economists OF the Alliance have taken
upon themselves to settle the most difficult
and complex problems Of finance, transpor-
tation. and government. Mr.. CARLISLE has
not abated his hostility to the Alliance. In
an interview at Chicago tho other day he
said that II the Kentucky people elect
enough Alliance men to tho Legislature.
"the State will go backward hundred
years or more"
II 1t be true that In Kentucky or Mary
land or any other State, there is prob
ability that representatives OF the Alliance
will get control OF the Legislature. Or either
branch OF 1t. the people Of that State have
only to turn to the record OF the Alliance In
the Legislatures Of Kansas. Nebraska, and
Minnesota to- understand what Alliance
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A PERFECTLY FITTING COAE
a New Invention Whereby We Shall News
Need to Return for Alterations.

From the Chicdoo Herald
1t was a Jolly crowd Of tailors and designer
S,"s TaoFs s TS.1 s
cegla nm excitablo Italian tailor Of Chicago
nrSaesa "ne long sn cGS thee s
on the tail" the metal sheets. which had to DO
fastened on tho body like plates OF armor on .
knight Grant. Ho called his ingenious ma.
menis trousers ana sleeves.
James Nenle Of Decatur stripped on his Goa.
and snhmite! to BisceRlia'S npe' ati?n. H
plates until b. looked like a horse in harness.
The Italian deity shot Gliding bars along the
plates until they Iitted clio . to the body: Thea
Paper and marked oil the lines Tor coat.
John i.Oronz got up and said there seemed to
be a loss OF time In measure ng by the new
measurc man ordnoriiy. Whereas siscess
operation extenGe,i over fifteen minutes
But yes" excai med the Italian. q man
comes bit bit once to be lifted with my pattern
take the measure the customer must return
again to try on the coat. the vest. before you
know it will fit him. But; yes; he comes but
The Chairman ruled Bisceglia out OF order.
Charles J. Stone measured the pattern a.
marked out on the paper and CON pared y
that the Italian tailor had Gu, a perfect. At, OF.
But. yes. said Bisceglia: 1T 10 my fault
George " " Da IN Nan oontended that ,.ilors
had not to tit but to drape the human figure.
and individmni BRAIN work work had much to %
Of block patterns that could he graded from
twenty 10 forty. as WAS necessary, He claimed
TINT his pattern could be enlarged to amy size.
woull not hRv. to spend moro than fifteen
minutes In getting perfect fit
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Gen. Miles with the Gloves On.
From ne IN cag0 Times

"Gen. Miles is as agile and quick as many .
younger man. and he's about as handy with
his hands as any OF EN- OF his size. He's 10
Practice, too almost In training. SEQ HIM at
the Athena UNI gymnasium almost every day
with the soft gloves OF, and he's pretty hard
customer to tackle. ! sEould imagine though
/ never boxed with HIM myself. The Gem
orai usually drops in accompanied Dy Capt.
Mrrion T.. Maus one "i his aids camp:
gets rid OF his superfuons rament. dons the
pillows, and takes about half an hour OF
It. Cant Maus is us,lat.y the, victim, The
Captain Is rather the dude Of the hsad'nar.
good looking fellow and so ii fellow: ne
can't be over So, but say when ie Gene "nt
wonder that the Division OF the Missouri Is
orderly and "hsd.h ,n,o oq Sni
his mon, taking them one at u time: " he 40
chose Hes sort Of IN officer to ee hs
good old. fashioned way in which the chiefs
ann lendrs hrs. won their pSsi'11ns a wne
weren't a. essential rs a knowledge OF how %
use natures weapons"
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Tho Man to Conduct the Prosecution

The Ne,o York Tribune represents Mr.. DE
LANCEY NICoLL as saying to reporter that
che himself thought the public ought to
know all about the putting to death OF MUIR
derers, but as no was District Attorney he
would do his best to uphold the constitute on.
allty Of the law"
We beg leave to suggest to the young
District Attorney that this lie by no means
the proper way to perform the duties Of his
oflcc. To begin prosecution by publicly
announcing that. in his personal opinion,
the case is doubtful or hopeless, but that he
will make the best argument possible under
the circumstances, puts iarcical character
upon the proceedings from the very start.
Mr.. NIcoLL's personal opinion about the
merits OF a law which he is charged to en-
force ought to be strictly reserved for his
own individual and private information.
This test case against Col BILL Browns
newspaper involves question and prln.
ctple OF supreme importance to tho news
papers OF New York. 1t would DO mis-
fortune to have it prosecuted In any such
spirit as ia indicated by the remarks at
tributed to the District Attorney. II Mr..
ErcoLL can approach tie task only In per-
'lunotory and half-hearted way. he ought to
commit It's management to other hands.
Among tho sixty-two or sixty-three hum
dred lawyers practising at the New York
bar. there Is one. and perhaps only one fully
qualified to uphold in the courts the consti-
tutionality OF the statute, and to prosecute
offenders in the spirit In which 1t WIS framed
We refer to the author Of that law.
Mr.. ELBR1DaE T. GERRY can be found.
when on shore at 261 Broadwnv not three
minutes walk from the District Attorney q
office. We advise Mr.. NICoLL to call upon
him. or to send for him. without delay.
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THE JOHN GUY VAssAx EsrA1E
Charges OF the Lawyers ana Coumissiou Il
Of tho Executors.

Charge OF the Lawyers and Commission
of tho Executors.
PouaHKEEPs1E July 24.-The accounting OF
the executors OF John Guy Vassar was resumed
before Surrogate Guernsey this morning.
There were twentv-one lawyers around The
Suirogate's bench. District Attorney Her
nance. who appeared for the State. asked 10
have the order confirming the report OF Ap.
praiser Guernsey set aside on the ground that
the appraiser did not appraise the personal
property at its value at tho time OF decedeut's
death. but at the value thereof at the time OF
such appraisal. and that the appraiser exclud-
ed the costs OF the collateral heirs in certain
ltications expressly imposed on their ehares
In the estate by the Court ni Appeals. surro-
The legacy OF $500 to the Cniversnist
Church was ordered paid to the New York
Stnte Convention OF Unlversalists. Frank b.
Lown te stified hat he had examined the items
in the late Judge Homer A. Nelson's bill. The
NJ SAID Were
ance duo him Of about $4,000. MI. Hashrouck
has been paid etween 81. 900 and 5000 for
services and disbursements. and Mr.. Lown
5000. Upon former accounting In the SUI
rreme Court each Of the eeyecu,Srs NJ FoT:
received s23691.l3 for commissions. The
executors now ask for / per cent. on ali
income raid ont since then. The bills OF
Messrs. HasbrOuck and own End the late
judge Nelson were considered as paid. Tho
taken 10 Aug g. decree a az viii b. ed IN
the mean lime the disposition of $3.50. 900 ia
securities. which cannot be sold because Of the
condition OF the market. will be provided for.
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a BANQUET IN BARBARE
Gold to Mako Ono Dissy.
Prom the Pdi Nall GdseftA


The following letter has been forwarded ri
tions With the Gold Coast: fe's'
DEAR-: have Just got down. 70 the Ccas..
T;ssle pd,, sfSSs OYER s,ss.ahy:
long way south-of the strip OF coast b thai H.
70 brighten our forefathets. All this IA q nos
sseep the rese,on ne 81 t.
Inland there Ia still some interest. The Tia:
are in ,ependent. md Keep their own cvs,om pos
have acquired ideas OF luxurious liyin9 m; nna
ono would not expect to ind IN the heart s tn y
the Gold Coast was prssen. a. T nos Sown 70
es'lng function that would have riv.n' 1 pom.
BY wSss i
among whom was STAYING 10 "A yon ,ne t wn
rior the ruler o. neishhprns .ibr. All MI" ;hs
sSss o. the ri6S were there q course The
mon. Some OF them had their wives, too sn, Ana
professional reporter CANT descr Ts,nS ;hs
nreasion q god ES III, }Ss. &c wa Worn
pared TO The gold displayed BY tho old c SI'
There must have been enough eUld in thai thai
MssIs ali came no n& r vi hs ank o, tnsan
have been ousteh f,om the Tran. wal had 'hn s,,.
TO begin with. all the vessels s"yi out o, which
the guests ate AMI drank weie o. solid on%
The table, too. was thickiy covered W IN H.
quaint ornaments that savaGes ,Ieiiebt in
Some Of them were cleverly wi ought. 40 lar A.
the art OF the people goes, but hTr tie mosi
part their only merit, u 1t I've one VAS thai,
Holidity. it was the style VI thing that Womb
hive deiiEhtei flash Rwnhrok cr fr m u hits.
cnnrel The most gorgeous OBJ ert OF all wns
golden bird. The body Of he lird WIS sol,d
gold: amt its feathers were built IN With
precious stones, am not good ut guessing
nearly enough 70 know. that Il could have
carried "if that bird or even Il bit OF on. oil ia
wings, my fortune would have been male for
lite. Ar areDtly u old c.ief hal mott n thai
such calculations might pass ,hroug /, no " jnIs
Of HIS guests, for lie took care that the bird was
not brought out til he was there 10 watch IL
and Ind it. shut IN again In strong ,hest i.
rrctly his ba, was turned The golden bird
was told. lad been Originally taNcn in wat
from II d slant tribe. ard nnth"r orhy taken
from II Il The In the same region was produced
to show the guests wha. a mighty sovei eign
they were din n: with. This wa a lions heal
also OF solid gold. with diamonds 10 The teeth
and eyes But 1t ia no good continuing this
list. l think YOU would have fel', as I did.
n,oie disgust than leasur.. Aud ns | came
away after really q cd dinner. but with my
pocke els emrty-nn my wort OF honor | hadn't
lifted even salt sro"n-mv principal feeling
was one fgratiilca,ion that In Europe We had
got beyond this savage ostentstion.
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asorre w. ChiId..s Way.

The splendid generosity OF NJ George W:
Chilis was nbundantly manifestrd one yess
ago soon after the orsaniHati'n o. tne 81 MShs
he cit Of the corner loi At Audubon and Bun.
pymcdr avenue valued at tibo M; 6 On daa
nstinu ,he Meth0Ist Episcopal Church Society
OF HW ayn" the desirable pars maze lot west o.
and nd ioinins he church pro.erty. having q 4
n Ssntt, Of 24l iect. II is value! at l.soO;
s rs the ehIsGh ,S.H 1 1sss OF
fHo H. avenue. with an area OF one AMI
inif ncr,s The from, OF the new lot l. intenh.
ed ns site fur the church parsonage Ihe
rsss end is to DO occupied with necessary
horse sheds.
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TIE FAT INCUBUS.
Even che Indianapolis Sentinel 10 Getting
Ready TO Du1p Hin.

Even ehe Indianapolis Sentinel 10 Getting
Ready TO Dump Hin.
PROM Me fndfanoso,u senttret or Jsy "A.
In the absence Of tho editor from the city q
paragraph appeared In the editorial columns
OF the Sentinel which does not state. with nice
accuracy. the view Of this journal As to the
Presidential nomination OF 1892 The para.
graph ran. In part. as follows:
Tho great almost the SOLE issue In the next rrssdsn
ta campaign will be the reform Of the ,ar6. And on
that isue Grover Cleveland 10 the very odmsn Of
the Democratic idea On that issue the battle 10 be
fought aAd victory won AID beside that issue all others
sink into insiRninsanca And while that issue
and he lives Grover Cleveland the logical candidate
OF the Democratic party.
The Sentinel begs to amend tho above before
1t is accepted by the public as defining this
PAPERS attitude on the subject OF the next
Presidential nomination. In the first place.
We think 1t is too early for President Masking.
The convention will not meet for a year. Mean
time several important elections are to DO
held. and Congress. with an overwhelming
Democratic majority In tho popular branch.
will hold long session. Between now and
next summer there may be complete trans.
formation OF political conditions II the tariff
shall be the commanding issue OF tho
next campaign. as seems probable now.
Grover Cleveland will certainly be q
ioGICnt Couuluatos POSSIBLY the logical
candidate. But. on the other hand. cir
cumstancss may render 1t advisable to nomi-
nate Western candidate. Certainly 1t would
be clearly advisable to do so II It were not for
tho peculiar relation Mr. Cleveland occupies TO
the tariff question. ltmay be thought best 10
como West for q candidate. Notwithstanding
this. In such event an able and vol. eouipp
lndianian will be strongly supported. Other
Western statesmen are also likely to be con-
sidered. Circumstances, even moro than per-
sonalities will determine the choice.
Az for the Sentinel. 1t is no hero worshipper.
and Is not. at this time. in the business OF Pres
ident making. 1t may take hand at it later
on. when the time Is ripe OF course We have
. high opinion Of Mr.. Cleveland. He gave the
country magnificent Administration and he
has very strong hold upon tho Democratic
masaes In this State and elsewhere. But we
also nave high opinion Of other disting uish ed
Democratic statesmen. and we do not wish to
be understood a. saying now who ought to be
nominated a year hence. We frankly admit
that We do not know. The logic OF events will
doubtless solve the problem long before the
National Convention meets.
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legislation means. They will learn from
the unhappy experience Of the West that tho
prominence Of the Alliance in State Legis-
lature means that silly, vexatious, and con-
flscatory legislation will be attempted. The
interests OF the railroads will be attacked,
and the railroad employees will be COM
PEELED to form associations for their own
protection. State institutions will suffer from
causeless Investigations or parsimonious
appropriations. Stay laws will be proposed
for the purpose, Of helping the debtor, re-
garded as q privileged person, against the
creditor, regarded as skinflint and shark.
Tho rate OF interest will be monkeyed with,
tho obligation OF contracts threatened, the
rights OF property assailed, and the Constt-
tuition and common sense violated. Finally,
after impairing or throwing suspicion upon
the credit OF the State, the Legislature will
adjourn, with a record, 30 far as most OF the
Alliance members are concerned. OF ignorant
Incompetence and laundering interference.
1t would be deplorable waste Of time and
an insult to experience for any State to elect
an Alliance Legislature The methods OF
Alliance legislators are too well known.
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His speeches have not fired the heart, but
his beard has been recognized as great
everywhere. It is this yard OF hair that
makes his friends think that the Presidency
should be his.
The case OF the Chief Justice is in point,
although not entirely parallel. and although
some Of it's details are little obscure. 1t
Is probable that the wish to drive his mus
tachlos out Of the Supreme Court may have
been at the bottom OF the booming OF him
for President: but the boom must have re-
ceived most propulsion from connoisseurs
in mustachios. It will not be pretended,
We suppose. that admiration for the
Bacchanalian poetry OF his first period has
inspired the Mankato movement. thou
sand men know his mustachios to one
man that knows his dithyrambics. 1t must
be the whiskers; and, as in PEfFER's case.
we must ask, Why? The founders and
early heroes OF the republic lived whisker-
less. How comes It that Senator In Con-
Qress and the Chief Justice OF the Supreme
Court are great because OF their whiskers
Is there any connection between hair on tho
face and votes2
In connection with this subject we may be
allowed to remark that the Hon. SLoAT FAs-
SET has one OF the most aesthetic, romantic.
and captivating mustachios to DO found In
this State; but he doesn't seem inclined to
lot 1t wave before the people next fall. When
his attention Is called to the whiskers move-
ment observable in other parts Of the coun-
try. he may change his mind. Gen. JONES
Of Binghamton. 1t should be said. is not a
whiskers candidate. Majestic as are his
mustachios. they never conceal the more
majestic fact that he pays tho freight.
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Whiskcrs and Politics.

Mr.. HERBERT SPENCER should employ
some Of his sociological Investigators to
make researches into the political status OF
whiskers. There are evidences of an attempt
to found a pogonocracy in the United States.
A citizen OF Mankato insists that tho Hon.
MELVILLE WESTON FuLLER's mustachios
shall fan the interior OF the White House on
and after March 4, 1898. The Alliance Adro-
cafe OF Knnsus names the Hon. WILLIAM
ALLIANCE PETER as the proper and pre-
destined candidate OF the Peoples party for
President. We are aware that some Oh
servers believe that Mr.. PETER was select
cd to succeed Mr.. INGALLS, because the PEI
ferian neck is never encircled by collar,
making thereby protest and warning to
the monopollsts OF the East, and being a
symbol Of the independence and untram-
mclled freedom sought by the Alliance
But the opinion OF these observers cannot
be sustained In the first place. the Kansas
Alliance Is a despotic arbitrary, and BULLDOG
Ing body. whose members are not much
more independent than the subjects of tho
King OF Dahomoy. The absence OF the
collar therefore. cannot DO taken as SYM
Dol of Mr.. PEFFER's political Independence
and, indeed. he has no more OF tho latter
than Of collar. In the second place, his
beard virtually conceals from the general
public his want OF collar. 1t must be his
beard. then. that Is his title to greatness. 1t
cannot be else. His plans for the confisca.
ton OF railroads, his defiance of the multi
plication table. and his shinplaster scheme
are not original. Several philosophers and
cranks have anticipated him In these. but his
beard IL his own. He Is not an orator or q
statesman or natural leader Of men or q
trained politician. He was Republican
editor who dreamed dreams as the result Of
intellectual indigestion and prolonged sed-
entary habits. For years he has passed
his life In obscurity. cultivating an amb.
ton and a beard. and at length the amb-
ton took hold Of the beard and swung itself
into Office.
Since his election Mr.. PETER has studied
the science Of government at Washington.
beheld with horror the wickedness OF New
York. and gone TO the South a. . missionary.
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FORTY YEARS A RECLUSE
A Disappointed Musician Buries Himself
nthe Woods for Life.

from fhc NeW Frif0ln Herald.
FF. Lobn. brother OF D. S. Lardner. resid-
iun at Piseco Lake. In the Adirondack. is ~.
peeled to li,e but short time He has been =
hunter and trapper tor over forty years and
now has communion. although he did not 20
there Tor health and WAS not aware of any pre-
disl osition t. pulmonary troubles
Mr.. Lobb was ambitious as a musician. but
lost his hearing. spelling his musical future.
and In his disap rointmeht he went forty miles
into the woods. built him a cabin Ivy Plseco?
TRAINER. He was there twenty-five years O.
fore Mr.. Lardner knew where be was. since
that time Mr., LnrGner has visited him. and ne
was here several years ago and spent sew raj
months an he WAS here ngain more recently.
His reclnse life was remun-ratlre. and his flrs
y ogrese OF nflairs at tile lake, VIII, b mas now
become IL popular Ieso,t. Mr.. Lobb built him .
comfortable home. and when o. b. Ives was II
tha lake he formed very pleasant acluaint-
ance with him.