St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1890-05-03
What Kiefer Said.

What Kiefer Said.
This was all the testimony called in
support of the first charge, and COLI
| Kiefer was at once sworn to rebut it&
| He denied the Observation-Disclosures
| story. He remembered Mr.. Oppenheim
attending the sale. The property started
| at $1,000, and was sold for S11 ,050. EXa
amined by Mr.. SanbOrn:
@. What, if anything, did Mr.. oppenheint
| say to you?
| A. The first and only time Mr.. Oppenheim
| spoke to me on that sale was that he had
| reached his limit, and if 1 would make am
| other bid l would have the land.
| @. Was that all he said?
A. That is all he said then. He was quite
| little piece away from me, on my left.
@. Was it all he said before the property
| was struck off and sold to you?
| A. 1 remember of nothing else.
@. He saws that he said it was better to die
vide the property and have one-half eachl
! than to run it up, or words to that effect, and
| that you agreed to give him one-half and hey
| agreed to let you bid 1t Off; is that so:
A. That is not true.
| @. Did you ever agree to give HIM one halA
| OF the property, or Nj. Dawson, at the price AZ
| which you bid it off !?
| A. l did not.
Col. Kiefer also said that his partner,
w. L.. AmeS, was interested IN the
| property-he was not the sole Owner,s
| Dawson. Here Mr.. Lusk took Klefer ina
hand, and though the answers of the
latter were very cute, he as much aS
admitted that he had made the DEAF
with Oppenheim, and then, seeing het
had good thing squealed out of it.
Fred n Dickson, clerk in the law
office of John b. and W. ii. Sanborn,J
attended the sale of the OakeS AmeS
property. He was standing near Col3
| Kiefer during the sale, and declared hel
never heard Mr.. Oppenheim make anW
| agreement with Col. Kiefer.
William l.. Ames, who was seated
| near Col. Kiefer during the sale, denied
Mr.. Oppenheim's story of what took
place. Mr.. Oppenheim simply said he
| had reached his limit; If Col. KiefeK
wanted the property he could bid for ito
Cross-examined by Mr.. Lusk:
Kiefer Tripped Up.
@. Were you close enough so that you are
willing to swear. positively, that you heard
all that Mr.. Oppenheim said to Mr.. Kiefer6
ana Kiefer SAID TO him!
A. Well. all they said in English.
Q. That's not the question.
A. don't know whether they spoke irA
German or not.
q. Don't you?
Q. You heard what they said?
A. Well, don't understand German.
@. Do you know whether they talked Ger.
man at all, or not2
A. think there was one or two worda
said in German.
@. Are you certain?
A. think there was something said in
German: don't know; | think when they
met each other first they spoke in German.
@. Well, do you know whether they talked
in German at all or not towards the end OF
the bidding?
know that Mr.. Oppenheim said he had
reached his limit.
@. Did they talk German to eahc other ak
all at that period in the sale?
A think when they first met there
@. Well, said at the last end.
A. Well. that is the first time that they
| met; they didn't meet until the latter part OK
| the sale we didn't know that Mr.. Oppenheind
| was bidding until the last few bids.
@. And then they talked German to each
other?
A. think there was few words In Gers
man spoken.
@. You don't know what that was?
A. don't know anything about it.
Fred. A. Hammer, clerk in MfS
Kiefer's Office. testified in support OF the
defense.
Ansel Oppenheim was recalled and
examined by Mr.. Lusk.
@. Did you hear the statement of Mn,
Ames in regard to your talking to Mr.. Kiefet
at the time of the sale in German?
A. ] did
Q. Did you talk to him in German in re-
gard to your bidding?
A, have been thinking about that since
probability is that 1 didn't speaA
so anybody else could understand
me i'll the presence of anybody else. knows
ing that if any one overheard collqsion 9e.
tween us two at sale, the sale would be dee
feated l was pretty well aware OF that fact.
always have been, and the PROBABILITY is thai
in talking to him L was standing in ting
easement OF q doorway; he was standing
next to me, within few feet from me, and
Mr. Ames was sitting in the window sill; and
while l wouldn't swear positively that
talked to him in German, but the more
is probably what did, knowing the fact Of
anything that said that may have got out
there would defeat the sale.
Col. Kiefer was also recalled and ex-
amined by Mr.. Sanborn.
@. Did you have any conversation in Gerr
man with Mr. Oppenheim at the time of thiR
bidding with reference to the property, OF
how it should be bid off?
A. No, sir.
@. Did he with your
A. No. sir i believe he said "We-gates;N
that is all he can speak in German, anyway
O. Did you ever admit to Mr.. Dawson that
he was entitled to a half interest in the
property
4. No, sir.
@. At the price at which you took it?
A. Not at the price what we purchased
1t at.
Kiefer Gets Tangled.
Mr.. Lusk crOss-examined the witnesSi
@. Don't you understand German, Mrs
A. do, sir.
@. Can't you talk German?
A. I am very fine German scholar;
claim to be.
@. You are?
A. Yes, sir.
@. A fine German scholar?
O. We'll, then, you can talk German,
can't you?
Mr.. Oppenheim-I understood you to inth
mate that couldn't speak German, anything
but I'VE gates"
Mr.. KieIer-That is a private opinion, Mr.!
O. (By Mr.. Lusk.) Now Mr.. Kiefer, you
are under oath, you know, don't you?
A. Yes sir.
helm can't speak anything in German except
''vegates'' and swear to it in the way you
have before these gentlemen, is that as true
as the rest Of your testimony?
A don't really know how much Ger
man Mr.. Oppenheim can speak.
@. Then why did you make that state<
ment so recklessly here under oath?
A. Well. don't know that do know any
thing about his German.
@. Well, no. But you have stated it as
positive fact that that was all the German hs
understood.
A. didn't so intend to do that
@. You did not?
A. No, sir.
Q. Are you in the habit OF making those
kind of statements loosely; is that your way,
l mean, Mr.. Kiefer?
A. No, sir.
Joseph A. Wheelock was sworn and
said:
recited to Mr.. Kiefer in my office, sub.
stantislly what Mr.. Oppenheim and Mr..
Dawson told me about this sale. Mr.. Kiefer
then told me that he had never seen Mr.
Dawson on the subject of having half in.
terest and never made any proposition for a
half interest: the only proposition ne made
to him was to sell him half interest or GER
tain interest for 81, 900, but utterly denied
that he had any conversation with him whats
ever about having any half interest in THAI
property. This conflicts entirely with his
testimony here.
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