New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-10-31
PURROY A BAD WITNESS.
HE HATES no ANSWER QUESTIONS
WHEY TIE yAssErr ooxnrrEE GETS HIN IN
CORNER HIS TONGUE Is RATHER FREE

WHEY THE JASaETT COMMITTEE G1Ts hAN ~
CORNER HIS TONGUE Is RATHER FREE
-rH1Nes Hs DOESN'T KNOW.
Henry D. purroy ths prsssdent q The Board Of ffe
CcnmissiSuess eM mot di1nppolnt The immense ot0.s
Who allsA Pert II q ths suSer,er Court ys'ssraS
b entertAaned by his DFseemanes before shs 49,
Senate Committee On Cees. Purroy, encoaissoa "
the loud lAashter and Applause that sstendeo m. .
was evea moro regardless Of Ne propne0es 49, y.
Wednesday. He gasnished hts testimony VIZ OK
,,sm.norn Ma nv besvsosi' sPoor devn'' ana
sOh. ny ood'-only hs said "eswd'-snd ~ AmO ~
inv>ri>Afy Addressed the examining counsel i% uo
committee - piAin @Ivhs" Senator AoNsaSn =.
toward The clDe Of tho long session became u~ :"
the wssnslss produced BY tho o0n'~1. "a th.. N.
tnm,cy ~ tia a.y contained greet deal not OF any
vslne 10 the committee. ~, ,.,,.
~You say the testimonyf' remsrAeo NJ A'A'
Il d."
al sgrce with you entirely
"A e. oostruetEon tactics Of TIE witness did nos
-. ~oo~A fr,A from . few fscts In regard
~ T,mmany influences In tho Fire Department which
rnrs4 ho az value to the committee ana
arc certainly Of interest to tie public. A..
Mr.. WINS saA NJ. rwrey got 70 ssanns o. Wv
r,,umsny sesssu q ~ Annexed Dtstsacs. " ~.
I'm An existence siass 1t7s snA Mr.. Pnrroy sid
~, n. ~ hssa . very aetivs member Of It. IN
has sftrn opposed Tsmmany Hall, though he added.
new, how often % you give your plcnIcs y askea
Mr.. Ivinh
.oh have ceaeed to DO IN on1cer Of the Tsmmsny
Society OF the Annexed District" was the evasi'o
rcpy. It is safe b say that Mr.. Purroy da NJ"
MAKO more than one straight answer to crooHeo
Question during his examination After some NAM
rnerins. BY Mr. WINS in this instance, MIR. Purroy
at last SAID They give IN excursion once every year
"Arc not al the nremen in the city OF New
asked to buy tickets for that excursionf"
"Not to my knowledge"
rrriO
"Hsye you ever heard Of tickets to that excursion
heins sent to al the uniformed hremen throughout
New-Yorh Ctyis
Thew xould have been sent II they were asked for.
4pid You ever hear Of hremen buying two tiokets''
aThey bought as many as they wahteo. 1"ey
might have bought two
~Who has charge Of the finances OF tne socio'S "a
Tammauy in the Annexed District"
"Mr vreeland, Of the Bureau OF the lnspecuon OF
PuiIdines, is the chief one who has charge OF them
Are the fumes Of that society being used in this
electioni'
al think said MI Purroy. that the society always
contributes as generously possible TO the success Oh
the Democratic party in the Annexed Disu1ct'"
And they are contributing this year to the sup
,or. ~ Mr. Haaen, 1.-THE Tammany candidate for Com
missioner OF Street Improvements In the Twentyth rd
and Twenty fourth wards.)
at would be contrary to their custom u thcy aid
not was Mr.. Purroy's answer
Part of the money" asked MIR. WINS, comes
from the money paid by hremen for that excursion 7
al couldn't tell ye. Some OF 1t might como from
the fremen.'
eOn,v those that get leave Of absence. I have
iaA applications for leave to 90 to 1t ana hsve noe
granted tbem.'
apo you know Of the chiefs having gone on that
excursioni"
aoh yes, have seen chief Of battalion there
have also seen captains
And they all have to pay7"
ooh yes. said the Commissioner laughing, You
may depend on 1t that one gets across that gang
vay without O ticket. Tickets cost 20 each' we
didn't want to have too many and we raised tne
price,
And that money goes into the treasury Of the soc
etyi'
YES
and that treasury generally contributes TO the
SUCCESS of the Democratic party In the Annexed us
triet. How much did you contribute this ume'"
at depends on what Is needed We VIII coh'nou'o
every dollar we have II necessary" .
Do YOU know how mucftmoney is In the treasury =
aSo but II has been from the very start one o. to
most successful organizations In this city,.
snow, hasn't It Is, 900 at present"
al sbouldnt be surprised. But If you said $4,000
Il might be necessary"
"And, II necessary. you would put 1t all up'"
al would be In favor OF putting IL all up
@What DO you put 1t up forP
ITO oountersct circulars sent out, and we nave men
ho 60 over tho registry lists and put this man down
"a Tsmmany Hall man, that as County Democrat
and another as o Republican, and another - 1uson
man. Then we send the men oct to persuade tnoSo
who are axainst that the men they arc supporting
ore thl worst in the world and that ours arc 'ho oe
(Lsughter) ,. ,.
.n,,srs ~ The rsmmany Hall Association In the An
ncxei Districti'
IL couldn't tell you, but there are some"
.Hov many OF all the employees Of the Fire Depart
ment are in itf'
"a good many
"Fiftyi"
4w,n that Is little large, hut could not be sure.
, aor,t tb,nr onr membership is over hundred Some
II them are here
"Are they the gentlemen who are so smuseo WIN
sour testimony" asked Mr.. WINS
aNo,s said Mr. Purroy. coolly, II think 'neg ere
amused ct you
Th.r. Wa a shout Of laughter; but there was MOTH
tnp Init solemn silence when Mr. Ivins saiu' s''i'
.Tbev NAV not be whom / get through
EARLIER In the investigation Mr.. WINS cahea INC
.s..pt,an ~ the committee and the witness 70 the
NcCabe case Is On illustration Of administrative gov
eminent By the Judiciary Mr. Pufroy gave LIB
,.,n,nsoenees Of this case, in which, It VIII Dc ~
,oemhercd the dismissal Of Deputy CHIEF Jonn mo
C:abe BIZ tho Fro Commissi ners On the ehNse !" .
an. his head at fire, and unnecessarily caanht ou'
AZ athr,e Dies wns followed BY hcCaeee appe.i
to n, courts and his reinstatement Mr. lv,ns maoo
~. nr.nt that the % ,er Of the judiciary 10 over.
mi. d,.m,,ssls In the city department" msu'
nov. eme influence in tbs performance OF tnef oous.
Nv be.ds Ct Departments, By not making them properly
6naIy responsible
Tb,s case. said Mr. ruroy, created the Greatest
..r ever saw 1t In the papers tha'
.puro,;s going to remove McCabe because no -. 70
~ nan, .He,s going to put his brother In his
,,. BECAUSE he's his brother going to 40 everything
sh., 4, terrible There appeared before the board IN
array OF counsel such ss has been seloom Taan
- 40 everything, and after testimony was n&ea
WrCsh. appeared before the Board and sid that ne
- rsht ana Chief Shay wrong, and that under
ex.etly the sam. conditions he would 90 eAsctg IN:
..m. ching We thought had either 70 put out