Evening journal. [volume] (Wilmington, Del.) 1888-1932, 1890-09-18
FLEMING ON THE STAND.
A Lively Day in the Raum
Investigation.
AUTHOR OF THE CHARGES TALKS

Commissioner Raum Attempts 20 Prove
Him Rascal and That the Charges
Wore Inspired by Desire for Revenge.
Rehigerators for the Chinese Empire.
WASHINGTON, Sept 1s.-The special
house committee investigating the charges
against Commissioner Raum continued
its investigation. Mr. Fleming, the author
Of the charges, was called and examined.
In answer to a question by Mr. Cooper, he
said that Mr. Fitch had told him that he
could furnish the names Of seven employees
Of the pension office who held stock In the
refrigerator company Fleming said that
Mr.. Stitch had kept him informed as TO tho
state Of Mr.. Tanners mind in connection
with the refrigerator company
Refrigerator for the Chinese Empire.
lie (Fitchl had told him on one occasion
that Tanner was rather downhearted about
.he prospects Of the company, but said
that they had a deal pending with the
Chinese legation here that II accomplished
would enable the company to supply the
entire Chinese empire and make things all
right again. He testified to telling Mr.
Cooper where he could find Mr.. Fitch, but
did not giyesAim any names before the res
Dlution calling for the investigation was
introduced.
In answer to a question by Mr. Raum he
said he had written the article that ap-
peared in The indianapolis Sentinel bring
ing the matter before the public, and had
given the information for other newspaper
articles on the subject.
He Would Not Give Their Names.
In reply to question by Mr.. Raum as bo
where he got his information he said that
Il was furnished by six or seven reliable
men Mr.. Raum requested him TO give
their names and he refused TO do so, stat
ing that he had promised not TO make their
names public. These persons, he said, had
ut his request interviewed Mr.. Tanner and
brought the information they had received
TO him. Four of the persons he had men
toned were employees Of the pension Office.
Mr. Raum asked for their names. Mr.
Cooper objected, sayiug that Mr. Raum
simply wanted the names so as he could
get even with those employees.
To Prove Fleming a Rascal.
In reply to a question by Mr.. Raum as to
why he took so much interest in the mat
ter, Fleming said that he was in the news
paper business. and took an interest in
getting to the bottom OF such things lie
denied that he was trying to get even with
Mr.. Raum for recommending his dis.
charge. He said he never had any personal
feeling against Mr.. Raum, but he thought
that be had gotten even with Theodore
Smith, the man who had him turned out
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at Charlotte Mich, when the postoffics
had been robbed. Mr.. Raum began x
| question him about real estate deal Of I
suspicious character that he had takeE
part in &C Grand Rapids, but Mr. Cooper
objected, saying that Mr.. Raum was going
into the private business OF the witness
Mr.. Raum replied that he wished to show
that the witness was a rascal Mr.. Levi;
objected to the language, and Mr., Raum
withdrew the remark.
Concerning Glass Houses.
Mr. Cooper said that If the COMMITTEES
was going into this kind of evidence he
wanted the bars taken down so that h'
could have a chance to show Mr.. Rnum's
record up, and told Mr. Raum that men
who lived in glass houses should not throw
stones. MIR. Raum replied that he though
Cooper's house was very CLASSY and woult
not stand a stoning. Mr.. Cooper asked
Mr.. Raum If he had not gotten money
/ from a certain bank here on Mr.. Lemons
Endorsement Mr.. Raum said he had not
and asked the committee to call tn,
cashier Of that and other banks as wit
nesses. The committee declined to do 81
and declared the investigation closed. Th
committee will report to the house at al
/ early date