New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-04-06
Cochran and Senator Fassett pounded on the

10 answer, smiling Wltn All HIS 'hiShV' t''o ~ H'"
no recollection" of the person who asked him
about the $3.50. lie thought the question was
put 10 him in the Courthouse.
Senator Fassett mildly rebuked the Friend OF
the Committee for interfering and for abusing
committees counsel.
Mr. Cochran began to make speech. but Mr.
Fassctts gavel was even more eloquent than MI
Cockran's tongue
Il was going to explain" said Mr.. Cochran.
with unwonted Difference. Il thought you
wanted an explanation.
mo, no further, said Mr.. Fassett sharply again
rappng loudly. c..,-o,
oh drawcd the irreprcssibc Mr.. Cochran,
sinking into his chair and putting his hands Ill
his pockets Il was Offering you ah
EXPLANATION in the discharge oil my
Office of friendship"
Mr.. Wins called for about half dozen deputies
in succession but none of them answered
Il think" said Senator Fassett, that the
Sherifys have resigned as witnesses as well aS
deputies.
Mr. Cochran said that he was willing to admit
that the deputies allowance for poundase under
Sheriff Grant was 10 per cent on executions and
so per cent on attachments. This adinissioh
satisfied the committees counsel, and no more
deputies were called for.
Ernest Dreher a queer little swarthy man, VINO
might have been taken for French pastry cooh
if he had not said that he used to keep ho'ei
nt No 1870 Grccnwich-st,' said that ne hau peen
on bail bonds in criminal cases. nc na in .
bail in 500 for a man nalneu LANE I;,s osl-ad
similar sum for a Nh liunsacker MT Nii' "'N'"
him: .,o ory
Q-lIavc you ever been called upon to make any
payments on these bonds 80 ~ aid ID he 20 away
" o fSHO ISnsacker staud trial. Al don't know
oas ANYBODY called C on S yGn r frSm the sS
sherfs DistrctAoneys once nee Whom shon,d Ge paid
either in whole in part A-Not ohiViaIii. 1anc
S c ~S That The bond had been forfeited but
nc would that everything was all reh'' mako anv
oHavc ever been called lied upon to as sp any
OIave you ever paid ANYTHING 70 any one inc, IA ho S"
sderation of not being called upon 10 pay 'c Dohu
A.-No, Sir
Martin Maher, liquor-dcaer said he had been
OH the bail-bond of a man called Murphy and OF
another called Clark. The amount was SlOo.
Mr.. Murphy did not stand trial. but the witness
had not been informed that the recognlzance was
forfeited nor had he been asked to make any
payment Some fellow had TO him and
talked to him about the bond.
Mr.. WINS wanted to hear what the conversation
had been. Mr.. Cochran put in his oar again lie
thought this was mot pertinent
Il would like to make statement, SAID Mr
Wins earnestly. lie went on:
understand that counsel to the committee am
to be permitted to direct my Inquiries along inc my
which will be most fruitful In the dsSlosurss Oh tne
evils in municipal government and In tho once WHcn
we have under investigation understand that AZ
counsel to this committee ain permitted to direct my
inquiry along any line whatever which tchds u tnio%
lieht upon these questions. Whether II be permitted
or not cannot be raised here. because there IS no
specific point to the pertinency OF w,les any spech
question is addressed except a. leads up TO IN, me
pertnency of the ultimate rs.gll Counsel Tor tne lat'
Sheriff has been trying. with what succes Don, Know,
TO convince the committee that he IS simply here as
friend Of the commtee eysI eCeS t' a s
that should be in erirptsd he ase OF some hine whSn
other side should like to know it. in order thai
may conduct myself In accordance WIN inc rue lala
down by the committee
81 have with aacrity accepted the post of
friendship" said Mr. Cochran, glibly. land it is in
the position of a friend that | Submit to the COM
mittce that the question Is irrelevant 1idicuious
and nonsensical"
Senator Fassett said firmly:
I don't want TO see the work OF the committee in
terr1,ped BY alteration. The position sued Dy Sr.
,erSectiy right in Inquiries of legislative committees.
II questions answered In loose way lhat VIII
when il is completed. and it occurs 10 nc that II IS
perfccty proper for gentlemen who are here IN some,
what anomalous positions that they should walt uhtI
counsel is through with the witness.
Mr. Fassett added that the man who was on
the stand needed to be examined with care and
10 have the questions put in such a way that he
would readily understand them. The position was
now 10 him. and he was evidently not trained
Mt Cochran took up the expression trained
witness" and repeated it iOkincly.
Mr. WINS exclaimed d" / am prepared 10 retire
from the counselship of this committee but am
not prepared to remain counsel OF committee
which will permit the continuance of this lnSo-
lence." al,
adjective" said Mr.. Cochran gayly.
~ il-a To ln m re-
sumed Mr. Wins 1t is no question of temper,
but cannot prosecute this inquiry in an intelli-
gent way ", c..,.. ,..,.o j.. ,a Con
ator Fassett once more raped him down.
The committee" said Senator Fassett, doesn't
propose to have this work interrupied ~ an eH
We enjoy it, hut il is not proper. We must re-
quest you 10 stop IT,
Mailer about the conversation which he had had
IN regard 10 the bail bonds. The witness. with
strong shamrock "brOsuc, said that he ha1
been interviewed by " Herald reporter But
he added. with great Indignation, " he said more
in the pay-per than Oh said. lMuch laughter
well. what conversation did you have with
him." ,,,
He asked if whit bond for wan Murphy
and Oh said Wis He sad Did you ever pay
money 10 the Sheriff. Oh asked what would
pay the money for, when could projuice nioA
man." H. hod
Sheriff Scklcs was the next witness lie han
prepared a long statement cnbodying inc res ai
of his observations and experiences ID me olcIli
office so far. and his suggestions as TO remediai
legislation This he read, and occasionally adde
70 it by comment 1t began as follows aScs nv at,en-
During the few days have been IN once my ~ ~
tion has been chiefly given 10 those departments OF t
shcrin's Office in respect to which lrrreurnu,s amS
abuses have been alleged In the pubic ]oarials az,
ntherwsc ! have not had time 10 60 thfoish All VIC
dcnartments Of the Office hit will proceed to make
surh suggestions have occurred to me toucHne tnoc
departments about which there have been su2eesuoS
Of Irregularities and abuses rake ior 20
annie thc Order OF Arrest Department. mere "e,c
Relieve four deputies assigned to duty in that de
nartmcnt When I al the bar no such dcpart
mert existed | was unable 10 see any necessity fo
IT, either in regard 10 the duties OF deputies cHconts
orders q. arrest or account OF the magnitude o.
Tho business ] therefore abolished that 50 called
departmcnt directed that all orders OF arrest lk'
other orders Of courts should be turned over To t'
IDENTITIES directed also that no other than the Jaw
fui fees should be charged for any duty PERFORMED bs
any deputy In the execution OF an order OF arrest
and that no gratuitous compensation Of any sor
should he received BY deputy or other person l
the office FOR any service. official or cXra-onicial
rendered in the execution Of that crty. J saw. now
ever. and 1t is ms opinion that the legal compensa