The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-11-07
Afternoon Session.
The House re-assembled at l 40.

The House re-assembled at 40.
Rep. Cummings moved that it be
amended to read an annual income of
four hundred dollars.
Noble Widemann said those who put
in that word residents in the Constitu-
ton ought to have leather medal. l
have doubt as to whether it is wise for
us to put in Subject"
Noble J. NJ. Horner's impression was
that an individual who should want
some political right in this country
should be subject. and if he does not
wish to become such he has not much
interest. The cutting down to one thou
sand dollars is going to do away with
someone's rights. So that if the Con-
stitution is amended we have to take
rights from one and give them to an
other. hold up my hand to vote for
the recommendation of the committee.
AS soon as they were ready he would
vote to do away with every money
qualification.
Noble Widemann asked the members
| to try if possible to reach an unanimous
| verdict as near as possible on this sec
| ton, and then next session it could be
passed by a two-thirds vote.
Noble Mccarthy said that the plat
form on which he came before the peO-
| pie pledged itself to a liberal modifica-
ton of the property and income qualifi-
cation. / favor the motion for $500
made by the hon. member from the
second district as | believe that would
separate the franchise of Noble from
representative fairly. [ think that diff
ference ought to be satisfactory. l be-
lieve no one but subject should be al
lowed the privilege of voting, but every
person who was here at the time of the
PRONUNCIATION of the Constitution ought
to be granted that privilege. Once they
get it it could not be taken away. The
Qualification as now in the Constitution
is unfair. | believe that all qualifca-
tons except an intellectual one should
be set aside But we cannot do that
lust vet. would not place the qualifi
cation SO high as to debar certain class
of people. The reduction from six tc
four hundred dollars is liberal and just
Rep. Paehaole said there would be q
great many Hawaiians who would be
entitled to vote who did not before, i
the recommendation of the committee
were adopted. The committee OF which
, l was a member gave the matter very
careful consideration, and L hope the
, House will adopt their recommendation
Rep. Kauhi said that those who haC
! taken oath under the present Constitu
t ton, could not be deprived OF their righ
/ to vote. The provisions OF these amend
ments could only apply to those wh'
come in after.
, Noble Macfarlane hoped like Nobl
t Widemann that these amendment
| would pass by large enough majority
| He did not believe these people could b
DISTINGUISHED after giving them tn
$ franchise. He thought it would be
/ mistake to reduce the income qualitics
!, ton, and would favor six hundred do
4 lars as recommended by the committee
Rep. Nawahi thought they had al
4 made up their minds so he would NOV
V the previous question. Carried.
= Noble Macfarlane moved the ayes an
}, noes be taken.
1 President Walker-They can only b
taken once on one question.
: Noble Mccarthy said the ayes an
e noes ought to be taken, so that tn
members can place themselves on re-
e ord 1t will go before their constltl
ents.
S The ayes and noes were taken on tn
g amendment "male subject in place
male resident with the following r.
e suit:
= Ayes-Cummins, G. Brown, Peterson
:. Widemann, Berger, Pua, McCarth,
n Phillips, Kauhane, J. NJ Horner, Hin,
it Parker, Marsden, Baldwin, w.
Horner, Cornwell, Walbridge, Ande
h son, Won Tempsky, Ct. n. Wilcox, h
l noa, c. Brown, Cummings, r. ". Wi
cox. Rosa, Bush, Kauhi, Nawah
is Baker, A. Horner, Waipuilani, Apis
e Paehaole, White, Kanealii, Z: Cocke'
:. Halstead, Knudsen, Rice, A. >. Wllce
r 40.
lie Noes-Macfarlane Muller-2
The motion to make the income qua
y fication six hundred dollars" W
e passed on the following division;
e Ayes @. Brown, Peterso
Macfarlane, Kauhane, j: NJ: Horne
/ Hind, Marsden, Baldwin, W Y. Horne
Cornwell, Walbridge, Anderson, v