Telegram-herald., 1890-01-30
WAR on THE CREED.
New York Presbyter1ans SIN Dis
CussinE Revision
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NrEasaas = Nss state
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NEv YoKE. Jan 81 Al as. she rad
lraI ueu iu the presoYtery of New \ ora
have come 81 fairly ia faFer ef ne~
creed They have denounced the o.a
confession - uusParlng terms during
Gle last Zen aaES ban have denied CAM
now that tbey have desired So
shelFe the vora of the Nestmiuster
alfines ln an sble speech. carefully
prepared snd slowly read Prot Marvin
r. Vincent on Iae-1sy used words
Which are considered resol ationarg ID
many members 81 tue pfesbyiery
lH lhe worh ~ lhe chureh he said.
the confession ~ fst p had he Id na place
tor long time Io many of the mem.
oers ot tie chaIeh irw vas unknown he
claimed ttat % called forth strong eA-
presslons of dtsapprov4l fron influential
quarters of the clafr1 ia his opinion
the church Was ahead ~ tae confession
of faith iu sggresslNeness and in carry
ing out the Masters commission. fle
said hat the confession was not adapted
70 modern times Gods word was IN
tended for al ages. and not for one pc
Rod Of time.
he said thaf with ai fhe respect be
had Tor Augustine and CALVIN. the sew
enteeth century could not tx ineXor-
ably the forms and Limitations of
the nineteenth century. There Nere
important features in which the
confession did not represent sew
eral important features ~ the
creed The doctrine that men and
angels were preordained 20 everlasting
death aas repudi4ted bv Hr Vincent
He admitted that God lad a right TO
make Hindoo or Tartar of ham. bar
denied that lie had any right o. arhi-
trarv power 20 condemn him 20 eternal
torment Ia hell lie declined 70 sc-
cept Pauls Interpretation that be was d
lump Of clay in the potter's hands.
or that DE could be made into vessel 20
serve base uses. "Why should We ac-
cept the works o. Calvin be asked
To perpetuate his name. simply? Who
was ne? Was ne crucihcd for us2 Was
il in him We were baptized lie said.
My brethren. We have been urged 20 hold by
the confession as u il Tor fear - creating
divisions Why. is 10 possible that IL DIS uot
The Presbyterian church In these last months
mas travcrsed a space which separate :
her forever from what she was before me
last general assembly. Not that the same
differences Of opin lon old not exist then a. nov.
bat these differences have been formulated
Numerous presbyteries have declared ther
opinion that q revision OF the confession Is de
manded and numerous individuals ministers
ana Iavren have expressed uuecuiyocallv their
disbelief % certain articles 81 the confession
ard the division IS on record We are m
longer united church before the world We
are confessedlv disagreed as n the articles n
faith ! submit that this fact will net suffer as
20 20 backward u is demonstrated that We
/ can not agree on the confession as II ls To 81
+ back and reaflrm INC confession = not going n
81 up that gap
Rev r y. Harlan. a son Of Justice
Harlan. OF Washington spoke in favor
F Of revision. and Prof. Popton. OF Prince
ton, Rev. J. J. Lampre, and an elder de.
Tended The old creed.
THE WESTMINSTER AseEMBrY.
rosbrteriauism. a. a deuOEinatlon NAV 70
/ said ~ date from 40 As ar orza1iza'.o ION =
Was formed in Scotland az that time In a.
/ other and more strictly gerwiral sense III
+ church was horn - Geneva. John CALVIN
/ rather than John Knox. beng its father. %
I course. The doctrines set forth by calvin wer'
. hv no means new He vas disciple of huFu-
f Tine and Athanasius and. like them. adhere.
closely 20 what they and he thought Vss th'
4 theology ~ So Paul.
The Pres sbvtoran erred which is now urfo'
domestic fire Is The statement ~ dor'riuo sr'
r-ilo of practice agreed upon hv tbe fauou
We,rnil-tor assembly. which convened Fl
London IN Ie43 rs o~oer - the British Parlia
f menf
Tho WesfrIi-efer confession - fsib va
/ drawn up hy q committee ~ shat general -
scuhIv appointed August ~ fsft Ncar'v
vcsr later sub committee was appointed q
complete thr report which was submitted f
J1v 20 f"4f PIT owing n fhe thoror ehnrs
~ The discussion which followed g was m
untI Decenher mat fho Assem- bis r. a. ready e
submit ~ to Parliament Tho nsyi year ~
g. hurch a. Scotland approved tbo report.
sno.ld ho added hero that Scotch conmissiof
cf- vrr-e in, sea % participate ir the forua'i0
- The proceedings ano dif fru
making fho creed aDorf equally Tho p-0dur
cf English r~f Scotch PreshvferisDs 3
1856 fhe scotch Parfare-f ratified t
urCc- tho ffo - Articles of Cbr-fia
Religion Tho English Parliament mad
few ua.ur0rfauf changes ara t1c
adopted g. h1f this EnrNeh a1orfi0
~afterod ltro The restoration soon ceu'
8nd win if Fp. s-opa~ regained 80 place hrleH
vresfed '-rm p hy PreshTferiar' 'ru. Srotisr
~ fho contrary ~'nnr ard sfif o.irrt tc fr
fafh and uoffF of fho Wr-t~1' 1'~strr arrer-f
Tne Weetrfrsfe- aeeo-.brt bed narv sr
ston- affrrfho work which made F. f7uIoa' ha
n~e1 completed I' car he tsi tn asfe ho'
fro fr.-r estate ..rf~r ne Ia aw0rf wrIr
gave Hrth Ttr set recorded session va
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