The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-06-17
The Legislative Assembly.
Continued from seventh page,

| Dr6In0 OOuTI.
Minister Ashford did originally al
ways Join with the Cabinet in advisin!
King according to the opinion of the Su
preme Court But repudiate the ide;
that it was because OF the advice of tn,
Supreme Court. My advice was giver
before the Supreme Court opinion wal
rendered.
Rep. Rosa, CONFERENCE.-The answer ii
somewhat evasive.
Minister Ashford-Not at all. If an
swer is not satisfactory will make 1t so
Minister Thurston-Last August Hi:
Majesty refused to act according to the
advice of the Cabinet We submitted
the question to the Supreme Court anC
it decided. We presented that decision
to the King and advised him he was
bound to act.
Rep. Rosa-I have not spoken much
this session, but the question now is sc
important that | must express myself in
it. The amendment proposed by Rep
Brown involves principle, and rise to
advocate that principle. The Attorney
General agreed with his colleagues until
a relative was involved, then he aban-
doned the Ministers and took advantage
of His Majesty's prejudice against this
| Cabinet and of the Hawaiian's ignorance
of Treaty they knew nothing about.
With all Mr. Gibson's faults he respected
the Supreme Court. Now, the new
conner comes and for the first time in the
history of this country, there is viola
| ton OF the unwritten law. The future
OF this country is dearer to me than that
of the Attorney General. Now, he comes
and says his acts were constitutional
Notwithstanding the opinion of the Su-
preme Court. Now, if we do not sup
port this amendment he can 60 forth and
say that the House has justified his
course A point l have always recog-
nized is that Hawaiians should be recog-
nized in the Cabinet. | was not in favor
OF the resolution, but now it has come.
| am in favor of taking it for what it was
worth. So far as | can discover think
the Government has been run fairly we'll,
apart from their dissensiOns. [ see no
reason for the resolution of want OF con-
fidence. The ''troops" clause l do not
believe eminated from the Cabinet. l
was toleraby well satisfied with the ex-
PLANTATION made at that time. | do not
think the Hawaiians are opposed to the
Treaty except perhaps with regard to
the knowledge and consent clause. 1t
is the policy of the United States to
recognize the Polynesian races, and l
am in favor of continuing friendly rela
tions with the United States.
Minister Ashford-My esteemed friend
Rep. Rosa is not very consistent He
thinks the Ministry ought to 90, and i'm
mediately thinks that nobody ought to
20 except myself. He thinks that would
make good vacancy for himself, and
that would conciliate things and then We
would have the best Cabinet on earth
and everything would go on swimmingly.
MIR. President, the member from Waia-
lua is already making his preparations for
his hull maiana (sicl. Ii by selling his
country and hauling down its flag he can
get into the Cabinet, he is going to do it
and he will do it. l have had several
sneers cast at me for not having been
born here. Well. was not consulted in
the matter; perhaps if [ had been |
would have chosen Hawaii. AS it is |
invite comparison between my patriot
ism and that of the member from Waia-
lua and these two gentlemen in the Cab
met who were born here and boast of it.
Mr.. President, am one of nation which
never goes back on their own flag nor on
that OF their adoption, and am not go
ing to set the example. We read in
Scripture of man who sold his Saviour
for thirty pieces of silver, and l never
look at the member from Waialua with
out thinking of that man. Noble Bald
win has very large axe to grind-he
could not get me to help him grind to,
and so he has no use for me too.
Rep Brown rise to point of order
and if you know the rules OF the House,
MIR. Attorney-General, you will sit down.
Minister Ashford | will when the
Chair tells me to.
The President rules Rep. Brown out of
order.
The Attorney-G General wish my re-
marks translated.
Rep. Brown rise to a point of order,
first because he has spoken twice. l am
perfectly willing to hear the Attorney
General, but when he descends to low
personality, object. Second, he ought
to refer to Mr. Baldwin as Noble Bald
win and not brother in-law Baldwin, and
L think the Attorney-General knows
ennngh to know that.
President rules point well taken.
Rep. Bush thought if there was any
Anglo-Saxon fairness in this House let
us have it. Everyone knows this Cab
met is disgrace, and who dares deny
1t. This is an attempt to retain portion
of a Cabinet which all admit is disgrace
to us. | saw that treaty myself.
know because my advice was asked.
They are all guilty, all disgrace, and
have not even been able to deny all the
charges which have been made They
have made efforts to influence members
OF this House. | can't see where principle
comes in. II one is wrong, all are
wrong. Not member of that Cabinet
has had the audacity to vindicate the
Suprem Court.
Rep. White moves the previous ques-
ton. Lost
Minister ThuIston had not intended to
speak again, and would not if the At
torney-General had not gone out OF his
way to falsify facts. (Attorney General
is that language parliamentary?
have sat here and listened to his charges
and now he must listen to mine.
Minister Ashford-I rise to point OF
order. Language is parliamentary.
Minister Thurston-Circumsta he
refers to is he Hamakua Ditch Co.
Rep. Brown will say few words