The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1890-06-05
'i'HE LEGISLATURE.
TWELFTH DAY.
The House opened at 10 lock.
REPORTS UF COMMITTEES.

the answer of the Minister OF For
eign Affairs 10 the request for in
formation ON the proposed new
treaty wiJn tie luilcd states.
Rep. lgo"n said ihat under Ruie
~ this majority report should await
the Submission o' tie minority re-.
port !! one Is forthcoming. Another
thing was that The President should
insist On parliamentary language in
committee reports ~ in all other
utterancr, before The House. In al
assembly of gentlemen such an en-
preston a, "tir,,-cla.s Z" should be-
declared cot Of or,le. ~ the Chair.
The Pee; lrmi---I am under the
impression thA, the expression re-
ierrcd to - unnarliamrAtary. and |
think ihc r4umiiire should have il
changed,
Noble ntllwin-.I am not going
to discuss
Minister Ashford 1 rise to
point Of order. lnere can be no
discussion til the report is inter
pretcd.
The prcsidcnt-That's so.
Rep Reel don't think the re-
part can be Interpreted III il i, re.
turned to the committee for correc.
ton according to The decision vi the
chair.
Minister Thur9!nn moved the re-
por' be referred to lhe translator 10
be properly translated.
Rep. kapachaole moved III amend.
mcnt To Minister ihnrs,on's motion
that Tie report be printed ~ well as
translated.
Minister Thurston did not think
il necessary TO have the rules sus.
pended IN order to have u document
translated, rs il had always been
the practice To have translations OF
important documents prodaced.
Minister Ashford stated that his
point WA that this report was not
yet read, aud no motion can be
made. If the interpreter cannot
read it some member of the commit
tee may read it--Mr. Bush for jn.
stance.
The Presidential any member
raises the point OF order that the re-
port must be translated ( will go
rule.
Noble Widemann--I never heard
OF any such thing as this. \ majority
Of this House does not know what
that report contains.
Rep. Rosa raised the point that
the report must be translated.
Rep. Kalua thought the President
should not rule so, when be did not
do SO before the report was read in
English.
The President i will not with.
draw my ruling. 1t has always been
the custom TO have important re-
ports translated.
Noble Baldwin raised the point
that the report was referred back to
the committee for correction Of un-
parliamentary language.
Rep. Browne Rep. Ka!ua trying
to speak at the same timc)--,I rise
TO the point that there is nothing be.
fore the House, as the report has
not been properly presented.
Rep. kalua-I appeal from the
decision Of the chair.
Rep. Kapaehaole understood that
the anDoal mist bn nui
The Interpreter - There is nc
translator TO the House.
Noble Widemann-Whatever We
may think OF the merits of the motion
of the member for Honolulu has
nothing to do with the matter
we are now debating. We
are debating the disposition of
a report that is only before q
small minority OF this House. That
cannot be before the House when il
is only before the back of the House.
The President--The Interpreter
says he cannot interpret the report
without being given time. The
ruling is that the report must be in
full possession of the House.
Minister Thurston considered the
hon. Noble for Oahu to be right, in
exact accordance with the ruling OF
tie Chair.
Minister Ashford said the fact OF
the report not being translated was
stated before line Of it was read,
and no objection was made. When
some members found it was loaded
they raised the cutlery. This was
grossly unfair and supplementary
He reiterated his former proposition
that il the Interpreter could moi
read the report off-hand one of the
members of the committee could dc
so. Therefore he opposed the rnl,
ing.
Rep. Kalua--Good!
Rep. Nawahi hoped the hon
member would withdraw his appeal.
The House having elected Presi.
dent should sustain him in all mat.
tors where he makes correct rulings,
The report was only half read.
The President-The Chair make.
no ruling on whether the report i:
translated or not. 1t is that the re,
port is not before the House until /,
is read, and it is not read yet.
Noble Widemann thought ,hi