The Helena independent. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1875-1943, 1890-02-18

In the house this morning after reading
since Jan. ~ his side Of the house had been
protesting ovegy morning against the mp
pfoSal ul the Journal on the ground that il
contained an cntry made by tho direction
of the sneaker, showing the nnmes of cer-
tain members present ant not voting. Last
Friday the house adopted a code Of rules
pro, hlg for such prnetce. Against this
the oen4ocrats protested and would protest
as unconstitutional, but it was Il question
which could not bc decided in the house.
and whenever the proper olses arose il
would 20 10 some other forum. II WIS the
parp0se OF his side 20 see tllt this occasion
should be made in such shape ns would pef-
nit il 90 lie finally and decidedly passed
upon. Therefore he saw no reason why the
journal, the form of which the house had a
RIGHT TO prescribe, should not bo approved.
This WAS done.
when tho esoluiion ffom the Worlds
Fair committee was presented u second de-
mand on motion Was made for its passage.
lellers were then appointed who reported
the rcsult-yeus, ia; nays :. The point
OK no quorum WINS then nude. The speaker
ran his eye rapidly over the house and in a
few mpmenta snid There are liz mem
b. r.. more thun quorum" AlcMillin. ~
Tennessee. ltosted thgi the rules pre-
scribed the I, .ers Hs n mems ~ deterInin-
ing the presence of n quorum and that 1t
was not proper for the chair 10 count. The
speaker inquired what rdle required the
tellers to determine the presence Of q
quorum.
McAIillin quoted from the rule touching
motions 10 suspend tho rules, which requiics
that the motion shHll be submitted to the
house to be seconded by q majority by tell
ers II demanded. The speaker responded
that 2 majority had seconded the notion
III to sand thut debate on the motion WIZ
now in order. But the democrats made IN
earnest resistance. Proceeding further Nc
Millin insisted on the point that no Quorum
had voted, and that neither the speaker nor
any other man could assume that the raen
connted were in the house whtG tho vote was
taken. The speaker replied that Lie had hn-
nounced ut the timo that there were l1g
members present by actual count. No ont
WAS counted who vas not present at the
time uf the vote; and further, and II mem
bers did mol desire 10 vote tue presumption
was that they ncguissced IN The result OF the
vote.
Bland wished to know by what right IL
tellera had left their place before o i,cttle-
ulln uUu NoiNut anu Nbf hl'NAfA NNlA ~ AAl
gentleman desireu 20 vote The tcllels would
take their place. Mills. Of Icxas. ulaln-
tanned that the rules required decision by
the tellers, and argued against tho speaker
action. Cannon declared the chgir had
done its duty m counting members 10 do
termine the presence of quorum. II WIS
entirely a different question .rom a vote by
tellers. Carbide maintained the moment
the tellers were ordered 10y the house TO
take their places. the power of the chair 10
count, except upon their report, ceased.
lie WIS lot making nn argument because hc
WAS opposed tothe socondInR OF the motion.
bat he believed this was most important
construction of tho rules. and tue
house should not surrender Us
power TO the speaker Can-
non asked under what rules
Carlisle would work when the speaker had
ordered the roll to hc called 10 disclose a
quorum, without the instruction OF the
house. Curlisle replied " citing the rule
requiring the presence OF n quorum before
the house begins its daily business. lie