The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-06-17
THE lEGlSllTlVE ASSEMBLY.
Fourteenth Day.
MONDAY, June 9,

Minister Ashford rose to question OF
priyileye-I wish to answer the charges
made bv the Minister Of the Interior
against me of connivance with the in
sHrrection in this kingdom April last.
Mr., President, the speech Of the Minis
/ ter
Rep. Brown rose to point Of order. The
question Of privilege must he stated TO
| the Chair and the Chair must rule on it
and must decide whether il is question
of privilege or not.
ATTORNEY General-I claim that it is,
Mr. President, question Of privilege.
President Walker so rules.
Rep. Brown saws the matter has been
referred to the Printing Committee and
the House will doubtless set day and
then the matter can be discussed then.
Perhaps the member from District 5 viii
also rise to . question oi privilege then.
This is not the proper time to discuss it.
Minister Ashford-1 do not think il
the correct course to postpone, because
| the attack OF the Minister OF the Interior
was made as question of privilege. and
suggest that it is not correct TO wait for
the reply oi the Printing Committee, be-
cause it is as much question of privii-
eye for me to reply to his charges ss for
him to mine. am ready to make my
reply now 1t will take no more time
now than later. A foreign mail leaves
to day. The speech of the Minister of
/ Int rior will 70 abroad on that, and peo-
Pile will believe that there was an insur-
rection fumented here ami connived at
by one officer OF Cabinet. submit as q
matter of personal justice to myself and
advantage for the country, that l be al
lowed 10 speak to day.
Rep. Kalua-Whst is the question Is
il the reply?
The President-Yes; that is the ques-
ton.
Rep Kalua said he has looked over
the rules and found none forhidding the
Attorney General to make u reply as
question of privilege, although it may
seem little out OF order ~ the House
has referred to the Printing Committee
The advantage OF hearing it now rs that
it can then be referred to the Printing
COMMITTEES and all he discussed tngp;her
in committee of The whole. Thereby the
House will gain time by letting the At
torney-General speak nnw. Ii Attorney
General Is tn blame, whole Cabinet must
suffer. Cabinet must stand or fall as II
Cabinet Very mortifying to me TO see
Ministers quarreling with one another
taking up time of House tO settle their
Quarrels consider that il a COOL many
| things stated by Minister of Interior are
true, the House must in p-ach certain OF
Ministers l think II it il true that if the
| Attorn-y-G General Was conniving with in
surrection in April. .-ne must be impeach-
| ID and ii CERTAIN statements of the At
| iorney-(1enrral are true, perhaps others
must he Impeached But the Attorney
General ought to siaIe precise points to
which he wishes to reply, and not 20 in
| to iaIhoms of speech OH anything else,
| otherwise Minister of Interior will W mt
to repiy again and House will be kept
here s-veral weeks. l want a thorough
| investigation and have no personal feel
ing against any of The Ministers.
Noble j. NJ. Horner said that ii the
honorable member Tor Wailuku would
apply TO himself what he had said about
| the Attorney General II would ne better
| FIR the House. Qnestltn Is very simple:
Shall AttOrney-tieneral repy now OF at
some other time? We are bound to hear
him, and AS he wishes to speak now l
do not s-e any objerIion. 1t may not be
MT unhusinesslike.
Rep Browns point issimply that mem
ber> mrst state QUESTION OF privilege tn
Chair, and Chair must deride whether it
is or not On this point lake my appeal
Ii Char decides it Is a question of privi-
lege. an appeal lies In that also.
Noble WIdemann- As | understand
the. question We arr to vote down the
rnIing of the Chair 10 exclude Attorney
General frUm answering That is the
whole question. LIT me read passage
| from tise {" Thunder ~: . WHAT has be-
c,me of Anglo-Saxon love OF fair play"
Now, Mr. President, have not heard OF
any attempt to shui of Minister of For
eign Aft .iTs and MinisTerUf Interim, and
10 not think a memb-r of our party
Eonld do 50. Fair play to both stiles is
equally dear to me. l want to hear them
| bDih
R-p. Kahonkan,,- From all that has
taken place, think Auornry-tieneral
ought to have an opportunity 10 make
reply. Moves Previous question Car
RI d.
Tie President states ih- question.
Rep Brown states the q'.rsIIun
Minis er Ashford states Ihr- question.
kHlIng Uf Char ~u~isined
Minister A-hiora-I stated -
R-p. Brown rose 10 point Of order
QH,-siiOn Of privilege must he raisei AT
ilEle r-nzTEs are made. not 4S or 80
hours after
slsni-; Ashfo'd-I4 the fir [ Ilare |
rai-, d The point II Tie time and besides
lie question II privilege Is i'elOse the
H,ns>e (Cites ac ioa Of u , s-rnaie
Chair rul-s Attorney General in order.
Minister Azif,ri-Iise iengil Of the
rem ,rk- Of the MInisr,r of the Interior
make it necessary to speak al lenstl AID
/ am sOTry c4nnO pr mis- rn't Io &c ,uIy
inr Hsu~e .ng he Minister Il The
InteTior admitted the VIOLA. ION Oi The
Law IL, advising tiie Marshal 10 vi late
tiIe Law In dlsrrgariing the connand Of
tie Auorriey-;iener a. 1bey exrus il
tA-taiIse: ]. lh-y lie irve thai vlOlence
WA Threatened They ielievr ! was
c.,nniyIng at il. NV 1T. vi h n-gars. 10
r,se confession. and I'd. With regard Z,
The defence. | VIII ra serIiol and
par VI srctioIi ii Tlie Polics- Ac; I,As-+d
by the ls-t House il xbirh th,- present
slIEi-rrr of thr InierOr Was active,
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