New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-05-04

| 0.-Well, Mr.. McCann, didn't understand you tt
Third and Eighth ave- ave-. Do soresi SsG' And sixth;
coStraccn DGn & you say that the major psr' wa
I'm not positive. 1t is continuous debt, a running
| account going on today.
r,a QaIWlat portion of the debt was contracted IN
| lmfn ana Eighth aves.l Al cannot tell without
6-W they % show 'is What '"fi the debt debt was AThe
books have been in the hands of other people. they
| Of them.
,Q.-Now, PI show you copy of your schedules by
which It appears that at the time Of your assignment IN
| the Eighthave. store Richard Croker was indebted
To ySd Gdon III the @ sum 5a Of s0s H. Is that a hat
were not entered.
in my conversations With hi his family .'',''
o.mis there IN any place on earth ar a record Of your
at the i>ne YOU took the Mount ST. Vincenti Ais
own acknowledgment to me.
record Al don't Know OF any w ~" A''" u ""'
Q.-when you took the Mount st. Vincent restaurant
o11len N' was ' ths 5000 900 aaHS ao%trsted At
S1%ns MGnt S e ws and hi Ms s outside id %
her bills so that she could keep the few dollars he
months A.~Lonrer than that
Then" said Mr.. Cochran, do you claim that
this 81, 900 is exclusively composed of advances
made by you to Mrs. Croker?-
And dinners that he gave to you," said the
witness smartly, causing much laughter.
Did he ever give me a dinner, Mr.. McCann ?"
asked Mr.. Cochran somewhat taken aback.
You were there with his friends"
How oftcn?'
Three times
Mr.. Cochran tried in vain to make Mr.. McCann
back out" Of this statement.
You swear positively that dined there more
than once?' he asked finally.
Three times to my knowledge" was the firm
reply.
That you swear to?"
"Ycs" (LaughterJ
Mr. Cochran asked the witness number OF
questions about his meeting and acquaintance with
Mr. Wins. Mr.. McCann said he had met Mr.. Wins
since the investigation began. He had also met
Mr.. Grace at the Mount St. Vincent.
but only for a few minutes. There was a tall
Young man with Mr.. Grace. Mr.. Grace told Mr..
McCann about the resolution to tear down the
Mount ST. Vincent, and Mr.. McCann said that
i, WAS very strange that the house should have
becn good enough for "Gabe' Case for five
Years and that he thc witness should be thrown
ont and the house pulled down. Mr.. Wins had
introduced hirIsclf to Mr. McCann, and had told
Mr. McCann that he had heard certain things.
Mr.. McCann told him that he knew these things
and they had talked about them, both al the
Mount St Vincent and at Mr.. lvinss office Mr.
Cochran went Oh with the examination as ioi
lows:
o.-You told Mr. Ivins what you knew so far ar, as
YOU have testified here Al didn't ten @ nm n aii
O-Now Mr McCann, If you Will allow me 20
direct your attention to that memorable hgnt weh
slso,ooO, could you give US the date when 'na' o0'
CURED A-NO. -, - aAo. rho. aates A-Be.
tween Christmas and New Years. 80. sr.
o~Was il a fine night or a wet nightl A.,A nne
o~Were You surprised when Mr. Croker came Win
~ 81 20 900 was not surprising sight to you
SWell / didn't sce the Sl50,do0. He only told Me
' o~welI. you had no to doubt the truth OF
his ,tatementl A.-NO. . . 90. .
Q-It was startling thing, wasn't IL, 10 seq
man In your store with 50 many greehoacns . yerv
no Not In those times "feehoaoAS "e'' VIZ
plenty around then tLaughtcrl ,.h .,os.
CIT wasn't an unusual thhg! A-HV' WIN "''''
aS~what people, A.-People connected with the
Did Won know that Al only heard Of it,
Odd Mr.. Croker tell you he was coH~s ~
Did anybody else see him besides yoursen' a:
'rom1 Adams. The clerks IN the store may ha'o
seen him. but they did not know him. - ,
Q-Mr. Croker was not frequent visitor a.. T.
think It the first and only time ne WAS ever '"e'o
Mr. McCann insisted saying that he wasn't
surprised to see Croker with the DOODLE The
committee allowed Mr. Cochran the greatest lat
itudc in his cross-cXaminatlon' and touching many
noints he asked substantially the same question
over and over again, III as many Shapes as Ills
ingenuity could devise with no better result than
to be foiled by the calm, logged persistence OF
McCann. Mr. McCann added to his statement in
regard TO CrolSer's visit by saying that he knew
" they" were working outside 10 accomplish a
certain purposc Then Mr. Cochran asked him |
Q-What did Mr.. Croker say when he came INTO
Al said would trust Tom Adams With every,
thing in the world. He said &" would like TO sec
him there are Aldermen whom he kloWs' anu
II you send for HIM would Ike 10 see nm; ca lnea
sent boy out and he came back and said lie coula
not nnd him. took Mr. Croker upsairs' 10 one vi
the rooms on the second noor ana leit MN 'here;
he h wc was sTnle sttnS there drinking said Mr. Croker
/, AZ the store and wants 10 see YOU lie hHi.hen
& S dTH m .,alrS aIe and Tns said THIS +, croker Mr.
ADAMS Is the best friend nave n s s'e Thn any icft
would @ rSt ni sar half half an hour after which Adams
rame down stairs and went out ana troRer came
iown altcrward with his ,atchel ana vent Went away away,
Nftcr that / met Croker and he said "Tho'e peop"
,} 9IMr IN his crqaGT hSad went A up took him up stairs
@ md lett eft thcm in Inc aiias room with Adams,
Old You have convcrsa''o" VII" 'u''"'
ANNo: he went out In hurry. ,,
o-Did you say that NIr. Adams was Ieo3nme'1h%a mn h
% Mr.. Croker suitable person 10 hoid 'n''
O When Mr. Adams came down dld You nave any
,onversatlon with HIM as to what occurred A'-No
o."Whcn he came back, did YOU A.-les v.
0'-What conversation did you nave win Nr:
\dsmsY At was day or two before he came
pack ,. 4, ,a r,osa this ar.
ansement with Mr.. Adams2 Al dld not; - -
81 understand you had recomnen9ed oHn ;Mah' nS aS
NO .,ahchoiler for thi, large sum of 100000. Du
,ou say anything to Croker as to whether the rv
,mmendation was poodi Al ,ald ! had trustee ",a
r Adams with everything had which w. am GrnSSy Tow
ao dotr1 stairs and said that he would See me III
day or two and let know what happeneu .,
OYWhcn did he come back2 Al saw MN M au
,s Fovn house. | think II wac Ncw-l cars Day VI
fcr and he told me that these people "ou'u INV
rust that fellow , ,.. ,,. ron.
rmatfOn was made he did IL, a, , sorrr 7
O-What did he say Ale salu, " an sI,at .ntt
lid not get the money because my "ea VA Ma, o 70
yond keep half and give you half and let them 30 "
ell" (Laughter). 4. .,. o, h,a
O-What did you say in response To that rensrhaoie
eminent (-aughtcrl. Al don't Know. -,
O-You had Mr.. Adams arrested A. ,.oA OH.
o-And ne was discharged \. lie was dischaIecs.
O-NOw Mr.. Mccain. In this whole conVersauo" was
here any person within hearingl Al
O-At :us time | understand that MI ADAMS was |