New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-07
NO RECOUNT, IN THIS CITY.
WHY SECRETARY NOBLE REFUSES MAYOR
? GRANTS SECOND APPLICATION.
DRIVEN TO HIS DECISION By THE MAYORS RE
yusAL OF HIS REQUEST FOR THE BOOKS
NOTHING BEFORE THE SECRETARY TO
sUBsrANrDAnE THE POLICE COUNT
OR TO DlscREiDur THE JUNE
CENSUS COUNT

sUBsrANTlAnE TIE POLICE COUNT
OR TO p1soREDm THE JUNE
CENSUS COUNT 81
Washington, Nov. s.-Secetary Noble to-day
nnt to Mayor Grant bis decision upon the Mayors
second request for a recount of the population Oh
New-York City. The decision is as follows:
Washington, Nov. g. -Reappliration ior re-
Enumeration of the inhabitants Of the CITY OF Nv &
is not deemed necessary to here rehease nhe Of the
tious presented and discussed III the OPINION VI r .
secretary Of October q last refusing the PRIV Of NeW
York Snihce it to say that was then found that the
Mayors application was weak In both OF us
tons. viz that the Census Bureau ao csnsS and the
elerH. who was there present 70 INFORM nlee reports
nsopsiion ON Which the secretary could
order renumeraon that the Mayor Was theIe era
nSs % 40 ond aet in what most
unusual and unprecedented manner 'n"o ''' ~" viz
ny In the application now made dated October 80 the
Mayor states that was no, ns D e Soce orcs
Of NewYork, to rest the case OF tne Guy p w S he
ss say u i9 eus the sp p 81 sy as
FirstThe original enuneau9n pUoh o 10 enc nm m,t
Ave wards Of ne G tS he pS' DO
ciude all the population OF THESE "ai' a. ~
so co from report made by the Board
snOSn Sa The ma states
Third-Oihcisl computations based on the annual n,
of the humber of voters with the count and the census.
ss ssd Of yss Witt IF the the eo
Thors are some excuses presented by the Mayor why
render # not inappropriate to notice that the
nouncenent Of the United States census at 1913. 5Ol
and was then widely published while the police count
did not begin until September 90 last Thus seventy
taken to correct the United States census if deemed
incorrect and 1t is not thought that any haste that
may now be required is to be charged against the
Census Bureau as an unreasonable demand. He could
have avoided it by an earlier start.
submitted. The statement made in the present appli
that i was n, not the intention nn Si the ne Ma Mayor IN
force of New York. TO rest the case Of the city with the
Is inconsistent with his action In appealing from the
Superintendent TO the secretary The Superintendent,
the ms aeml g %as whoH the Of any S facts @
cialy known to the Census Oice and that case pre-
it'S was not the Intention Of the applicant 70 rest his
on proofs already In the possession o. te census
and to make case # he could Why did he turn
away from the Census Office and make demand upon
ditaonaI assertion Of fact but still Insisting that rep
resentative of the Census ONCE had supervised the
and thereon and thereon only demand order by the
secretary upon the superintendent to proceeds
Why did he remain in this attitude until the opinion
by the Secretary was delivered if he did not rest his
case that which he maintained was in the Census
tainy those acts indicated most strongly both an in
that it was taken under United States supervision and
Again it is quite obvious that it would have been
most unjust net absolutely illegal Tor the secretary
that the superintendent had already had an oppor-
tunity to consider. and on which he had based nis
not call the attention of the Secretary to more
than had rested his case on at least before the
moi onlv of great respon siby but also Of great dig
nifty lie is appointed by the President, by and WITH
sence Judgment integrity and personal qualifications
entltle him not only to fair but most liberal 1reas
overrule him on facts he has not had an opportunity
to consider would be harsh as well as unautnOrZen.
pcable to it, bound to act upon the case before him
oG ss RG at
The present application night sowevsD ar ve sGe
fns oase Was rested on or # did feel
justified in acting upon II himself, ne hiSit nase
deemed il such as he might f i Oae Saye e secured
such action by the secretary would have required
fun of al he asJ pSa rank u ss
secretary that he, the applicant, was soliciting Tor
a.oe aSen Sv the ' Mayor The applicant Selected
to suit himself five out OF o17 enunerat1on districts
anG RgSnu Of the books relating to these
he at the same time, says these enumeration b9ots
him by the police enumerators ,.su.s, H.,
To have had possession of these acfmoWiedgedly I'M
perfec records TO have compared them with the sched
uIes of the United States enumerators in his own De
partryent the law that authorizes copies only to
given him entire freedom of action In the premises
without the SUPERVISION or Of any any agent S of Of
fered the Secretary. His place and his obhgau on.
were all the sureties necessary to entlte him 10 ts
confidence. But application by the secretary 10
have the books incomplete they were, delivered al
the Department upon an o th@ t reePs c me
of the Mayor We're to the eCnra ana 5a t ne sc ase
tsrT %n ne wa sc examining tie books
them with the United states cens returns ana o ' me
sowed Thereupon the custodian wac informed that
the secretary would proceed Win the DusioSs ""oo
The refusal Of the books leaves this case sub
stantslly where it when the last opinion was de-
Of s47 districts f that are in the city Of York
and these returns acknowledged to be Imperfect
er treatment Of the application these books having
been withheld there is no evidence whatever oefaro
the Secretary of the authenticity and reliability OF ts
police count. of any nsufiiciency in the United
States Census taken in June.
PARSONS surrendered TO the secretary being those az
TO death rates. number of voters and comparison OF
directory contents. are matters that cannot prevail
in the face actual count Of the people that ws
duly taken according to law They DO not . eane te
States because of any calculations results in such
SET forth :, This ,n p0 eer Of a' SSye@Ss
i Is . sd comp gn! the Dod ss
fS sre !. nothing ssHs eH for you ' to 90 consider
matters which lalthoueh now presented IN new
shape within your Tns consent ~a Virtually thus
given has been confirmed by the Mayer IN ,eesram
~ the date Of November A. saving The Mayor repeats
ms stnct,ities 10 secretary Noble but in your
presence If Secretary Noble will not examine the
books in accordance with your original nSruc''ons
c'' The Secretary IS therefore driven by the Mayor
onnsa of condnct In refusing his request, ana thus
course VI ea nt,erly bare OF any facts authorizing
again 70 dissow the aPpeato at See
All a1S are herewith returned being those marked
eAhoi'S ~ 10 " JOHN W. NOBLE, secretary.