The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-08-02


The matter ought to be settled this ses- |
sion ii possible.
Rep. kanealii was il favor of post
ponement.
Noble McCarthy-When the country /
members claim that they nave no interest |
in protecting property III Honolulu from |
fire they make mistake. There is
vast amount of property IN Honolulu |
from which the Government derives an |
income in the shape of taxes. III this
property were destroyed the Government
would lose income, and the country dis
trrcts would have to make it up. Ican't
form any estimate OF the value of the
buildings in Honolulu, but il bears much
| greater proportion to the total taxable
| property of the Kingdom than the cost
| OF the fire department does to the whole
| amount of the Appropriation Bill. Ii
| any other district wants a fire depart
ment let it ask for it, but not say that it
| is not fair that we should have one.
Noble ]. NJ. norner-The facts stated
by the Committee have all been consid
cred Property in Honolulu ought to be
| protected, and SO ought my sugar mill
and cane fields. But We in the country
| have to protect our own property, and II
| the Honolulu people are going to have
theirs protected for them, they ought to
pay some OF the expenses. 1t does not
look right.
Rep. 4rown-This is the first time
ever heard the Government had to pro-
tect sugar mills. Fire companies are
only for cities. That is SO all over the
world, aud it is so here. Ii districts want
fire companies let them ask for them.
That is what they are here for. The taxes
of the Island of Oahu will equal those of
any other island in the group, and L
think it rather queerf We can't have one
or must wait until members can make
up their minds whether or not they
are going to ask for one.
Noble Horner-That is not the point.
The point is, who is to pay for it.
/ Minister Brown-That point would be
we'll taken if We had a municipal gov
eminent here. In that case we would
pay for it ourselves. And if all the taxes
raised in Honolulu were spent here, We
/ should hear from the outer districts.
t Noble Maciarlane-1 am surprised
D that Noble Horner should make any
5 such useless proposition that the coun-
| partment in Honolulu. When we think
of the hundreds of thousands which
a have been spent for plantations, land
i
\ posterous to say the country shall con-
4 tribute nothing to the fire department
S here. There is none to pay for the fire
4 department here unless the Government
+ does. The country districts have just
If as much protection as the outskirts OF
d Honolulu. am very much opposed to
any such item going to the committee.
d Noble Baldwin, am a member Of
l. that committee and l think there are
a some items which might be partially
g borne by Honolulu citizens, but this is
q not one. can only say in reply to Rep
% Brown that the country districts woulC
>. be glad to see Honolulu a chartered
l. city. / have not the figures before me
It but think it would be cheaper for the
country districts. But the time has no
e come for municipal government. JUS
l. as soon as Waikapu or any other towr
n wants a fire department it can ask for it
e But at present Honolulu is the onl,
j. place which needs one.
,e Noble Isenberg-I belong to the com
- mittee to which Noble Horner's resolu
a ton was referred. Noble Horner only
Is asks to have this item postponed unit
he has reported. do not see how We
TO can avoid passing this item, but l thinl
10 we may as we'll pass it over until tn,
ye committee has reported.
1T Noble Burchardt-I shall vote to pas
t. as in the bill, since even if the commit
in tee should report in favor of creating
Id municipal government here. | Shout
re not favor it.
in Rep. KapaehaOle could not see tina
Id any reason for postponing this item ha
Id been shown.
,e Rep. kanealii's remarks were no
le translated. He was still in favor {
IF postponing consideration.
"a Rep. Kapaehaole-The hon membe
y. for Wailuku says this is the Appropria
o. ton Bill. Very true, SO it is. Let us g
in ahead and appropriate this item.
re The item passed.
e. Rep. Nawahi moved to insert Hill
r. Fire Department $4,000.
err Rep. Brown said So 900 wouldn't bull
lie the house for the engine let alon
III buy an engine. A good engine costs fror
$4,000 to $4,000. The only way
10 have fire department is to organize il
N and to do that you must pass an Act
TX Therefore instead of putting this in tn
H. Appropriation Bill it had better go
w a select committee.
or Noble Cornwell-As representative fror
n Maui l don't like to have Maui left GU
and would like an item for Maui {
m $4,000 (laughter).
in Rep. Nawahi-It is said that S., 900
OF not enough, but we can do a good des
if with that not on the scale of Honolulu
re Noble Burchardt-We in Kohala can
ey not do it as cheaply as in Hilo. l sha
ne ask for s15, 900 for Kohala (smiles).
to Rep. Kapaehaole-Ia am willing to hel
" the people in Hilo; but when we hav
ey bought them an engine, who is going
s. work it? Without law authorizing tn
D. organization of fire department nothin
ne can be done. The hon. member fror
h. Hilo is willing to be chief engineer, bU
30 some other good man may be willing to
and there may be a fight.
Noble Marsden - Hamakua raise
twice as much sugar as Kohala, but N
only difficulty about asking for an apprt
priation is that we have no water
lg Laughter.) But as we may have waite
from the Kohala mountains, l will as
s. for an appropriation; will be moderat
1t and ask for $50, 1000
~ Noble j. NJ. Horner-A little nonsens
is relished by the best of men, but W
It. ought not to spend all our time joking
m 1t seems to me the member from Hilo'
proposition is very moderate one. The
have about 1900 inhabitants, and hav
as been talking about a fire department 70
O. long time. / do not favor this tier
D; because it is for Hawaii. | would vot
D; for money for Oahu or Kauai just a
vi quickly; but | shall vote for this tier
because it is needed. Noble Marsden
from my district and my particula
friend, but shall vote against his item