The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-10-28


illegaI whether IL was valid o. void, is
not 10 the purpose in this petition. The
Queen leased the land 10 me. For such
subleasing one OF the Ministers, Mr..
Aholo. endorsed his consent in writing,as
required by the original lease. ! had no
means. Mr. President, of knowing whether
every formality OF law had been complied
with or not. | was justified in assuming
everything was regular. because one OF
the successors OF Mr.. Bush in office en-
dorsed his petition and accepted rent
from me, as also the late Minister Of the
Interior. Mr.. Thurston, up to January,
1850. Now. Mr.. P~e=il1r'. ! considered
myself entitled to certain equity, which
members OF this House have advised me
20 bring forward here, in the form OF
claim for damages. But / declined TO do
so. l was then assured l would have
heir support of a bill to restore my lease,
OF such portions Oi that land which bad
not been appropriated by the govern
ment Tor homestead purposes, and this
is all that this bill asks OF this House. l
have presented the facts as they are TO
this House, and will leave the matter to
YOUR Judgment. l leased the lands in
good faith, this Governmenthas accepted
OF nv rent. and il the honorable men,
bers believe l have any claim they will
vote for the passage OF the bill, II not,
against 1t.
Noble J. VI. Horner had a very pecu-
liar feeling about the bill. Yesterday
We had an onslaught on the Treasury,
and to-day one on the public lands. l
must enter my protest against this bill,
and would move that 1t be indefinitely
postponed. Let Us leave the matter in
the hands Of the ministers, and II tnev
do wrong we can attend TO them later.
Ii is not right for Us TO rob the people OF
the country OF the lands and the treasury
too. II the bin was TO pass, the name of
Noble Cornwell should be inserted in
place OF the Queens.
Noble Widemann - For a wonder,
Noble Horner and myself are on the
right side OF the House, and | will sup
port his motion. He did this because
when Mr.. Thurston happened to do right
by mistake, he Gid not want 10 upset his
action. In taking up this lease, Mr..
Thurston did right, that Is why he sup
ported indefinite postponement.
Noble Cornwell-I regret that the
hon. Noble, who has always been op-
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him and made a mistake. As the hon.
Noble upholds Mr. Thurston, l want to
give the facts to the House. When the
lease was issued by Mr.. Bush 1t was as
good as any that Mr.. Thurston gave,
and the land was not worth more than
500 a wear. About 5000 acres near by
was only bringing in S75 year.
Rep. Paehaole thought the interests OF
those whom the Queen sublets TO should
be protected. He favored the passage
OF the bill. The bill provides for giving
q lease to the Queen for the poorer part
OF the land at double the rent she has
been paying. The best part OF the land
has been used for homesteads. If the
bill passed it would probably stop
claim for damages.
Noble Widemann - Noble CornWell
saws I have made mistake. l deny the
soft Impeachment. 1t was land worth
not less than $500 that had to be put up
at auction. and not land OF any certain
rental, as claimed. The value OF the
land was the question with the Minister.
Noble J. NJ. Horner-It is wrong for
the House to repair the consequences OF
illegal leases.
Noble Widemann hoped a resolution
would be brought in to compel the
Minister OF Interior to 60 after all these
illegal leases. They were as thick as
blackberries.
Minister Brown-The land was leased
originally by Mr.. Bush to Queen ka-
piolani. No one could say /: was an
Illegal lease. Later, it was leased to
Mr.. Cornwen. He has a claim, but
whether against the Government or who
I cannot saw Ii would not be conducive
10 confidence in the Ministers if they
should condone an offense OF their prede-
cessors. Though / am sorry for the
lessee OF the bill, vet on principle l must
vote for the indefinite pOstponement OF
the bill.
Rep. Lucas, Is a member OF the COM
mittee, was in favor OF the bill. He
wondered why Mr. Thurston did not try
10 break the lease when he came into
Office Why this lease was touched was
because the late Mimstry.were always
opposed to anything for the benefit OF
the royal family.
Noble Parker-I think this lease is ille-
gal. The land was leased to Mr. Cornwell
in 1857, and the rent was accepted by the
Minister up 10 1889. That looks as If
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Mr.. Cornwell has paid about LOO on
the land, and got very little benefit
am in favor OF indefinite postponement,
but think there should be some compro-
mise with Mr.. Cornwell.
Rep. Nawahi thought there ought TO
be q general clearing up, and these ille-
gal leases looked into.
Noble Macfarlane was in doubt as TO
the absolute legality of the lease. l
shall take the view that it is illegal, and
do not think 1t should be renewed under
any circumstances. am opposed to
the bill.
Noble Baldwin corrected some state
ments Noble Macfarlane had made about
HaleA&ala ranch. They were unjust,
AID ought TO be taken back.
Rep. Cummings spoke in favor OF the
bill.
President Walker appointed the fol-
lowing committee on the resolution to
define the duties of the Fire Marshal
Lucas, Muller. Bush, Berger, Minister OF
Interior.
At noon the House took recess