The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-09-23


gentlemen here will say drinking i
good for the people? If you want to stol
a nuisance, don't stop it with another
nuisance. Ii you want to stop murdel
you don't commit murder to stop it
There is no trade in the world so unfai
as the liquor trade. 1t is a mean nasty
business. Is beer straight from Eng
land, good? No, it is stuffed full o
things to tickle your throat with. Doe.
any one want his son or daughter to e
into liquor saloon? 1t is not place We
can approve of. 1t is respectable, oh
yes, very respectable, but a kind of res
probability we don't like to see. l there
fore move this bill No. II A be indein,
itely postponed
Noble Marsden-In all that has been
said about the evils of liquor drinking ]
fully agree. Noble Horner made more
powerful speech for this bill than
could. Illicit liquor selling is going on
all around him on his own plantation,
but he does not speak of that. 1t is
better to fill up on beer than rooster gin.
Ii the people who pounded that woman
had drunk beer, they would have been
asleep and the woman would not have
VCCh
The motion to indefinitely postpone
was lost and the bill was considered sec
ton by section.
Section l was read.
Noble Walbridge moved in line four
the word fifteen be changed to nine. An
analysis of one of the best American
beers averages about LILO per cent and
Bass Ale about $40 per cent.
Noble Muller thought the plan of the
original bill limiting the number of Ii
censes was better than the committees
bill. He would move it be not more
than six in Honolulu and three in every
other judicial district.
Noble Baldwin moved the section be
indefinitely postponed. He believed that
those who supported the bill were sin
cere, and the bill might decrease liquor
drinking, if it were carried out, but his
experience convinced him that it would
not be carried out. He wished to look
at the matter from practical stand
point The present law is well drawn,
and as good license law as possible,
but what has been the effect. The bust
ness is carried on as though there were
no limitations on it. Even in cases of
bold and open violation convictions were
not obtained. I feel certain that these
saloons will sell hard liquor and that
this rooster stuff will be sold there. We
know very well that people go into soda
water shops kept by Chinese, and come
out drunk. How much easier will it be for
these saloons to sell liquors than for the
coffee shops. There is no anti-screen
law. The practical result will be that
licenses outside OF Honolulu will be beer
and wine licenses, and that every kind
of liquor will be sold. If the police out
side would do their duty, If we had an
efficient detective force, it would be diff
ferent. / object to a saloon in itself even
if only beer or wine are sold. The
saloon is place which draws the young.
1t is social cornwall place: a sort OF a
school to educate the young in the use of
liquor. Some one may say 1t is better to
bring children up to the use of light
wines, etc., than liquor. But they will
not stop there. In this country, where
there is SO much OF the rooster article, it
simply gives them taste for harder
liquor. do not take much stock in the
argument that the illicit selling will be
stopped. 1t will 60 on just the same. 1
hope that all lovers OF the Hawaiian
race who as we know are easily led, will
vote against this bill.
Noble Marsden-It is not expected
that the whole country will be flooded
with licenses for the sale of light wines.
The present liquor law does not contain
the provisions of this. 1t permits the
sheriff to go in without a search warrant
and if he finds bottle of liquor on the
place the dealer forfeits thousand dol
lars and loses his license. No one will
dare to keep liquor on the premises with
such penalty hanging over him.
move the section pass.
Rep. Brown did not favor the bill as it |
stands. He would amend by providing |
that only three licenses could be issued |
for each district, and that Honolulu, |
Waikiki and Hilo be exempt. 1t is not |
Just to the retail dealers here who pay |
81 900. A large part of their trade is in |
beers and light wines. Ii it should be OBJ |
Iected that the whole OF Honolulu should |
not be excluded, let it be within GER
tain radius, say OF one or two miles.
Noble Kauhane was not in favor of the |
bill. He had been instructed by his
constituents not to vote for any measure
OI the KIM. L nON0 W dluSIlu 81 llidL
the Minister shall upon the petition OF
900 residents of district issue Ii
;ense. He did not know why saloon
should be thrust upon the people of a
district if they do not want it. The mat
,er was under pretty good control in his
district and they had peace and quiet
ness there in consequence.
Rep. White asked whether Hackfeld
( Co. hadn't 10, 900 cases OF Monogram
lin in the Custom House now?
The President-You have no right to
lsk any such question.
Rep. White had listened with great
pleasure to Noble Horner's speech this
1t far exceeded Hellenback.
f he himself possessed such gifts he
would turn temperance lecturer. He
lad at one time used good deal of
liquor, but had stopped five years ago.
But if beer is such a good thing may
,egin again. Beer certainly seems to
lave agreed with the hon. Noble from
Iamakua Noble Marsden). Our SER
eant-at-arms too. think, must use it.
lie favored passage of section l as
mended by Rep. Brown.
Noble Isenberg protested against the
ION. member talking about Hackfeld &
%. He had no right to do so, and it
7as shame that it should be allowed.
Ie had heen around q ooOd deal since |