The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1890-12-06
ALL WANT A CHANCE
The Architects Think Competi-
tion Should be Opened.
LAST NIGHTS RESOLUTION.
An Association of Architects to be Formed
1t Promises to be Strong
Organization.
The architects of this CITY held meeting

The architects of this city held meeting
in the rooms Of the stock exchange yester
day afternoon for the purpose of taking
into consideration the ACCESSIBILITY of or
ganization which would be beneficial to all |
Its mem bers, as well as being protection |
to the public. The meeting was called to
order shortly after o'clock and George S.
Spohr was elected temporary chairman and
+. M. Ulmer temporary secretary. The
chairman announced the object of the call,
and requested that that that those present
express their views:
S. c, Dallas said-This is step in the
right direction and one which will be a
benefit to all concerned. Architects of the
city should pull together, but under the
present system, our clients lose faith in
US because it has been the custom of each
architect to run down others engaged in
the same business until our clients have
almost been led to believe that none of us
know anything, and when there is import
ant work they deem 1t necessary to send
elsewhere for plans. In reference to the
city and county buildings, | believe that If
hiettlng has not already been awarded the
contract, we should all have an opportunity
to compete. An organization would benefit
US ID this matter as well as in many other
ways.
M. D. Kern-Nearly all the large cities
have an organization and L believe we
should organize here. move a committee
be appointed to draft rdles. He then re-
ferred to the methods employed by Klett-
ing to secure the plans of the city and
county buildings.
Z. II. LABELED think the question
should be thoroughly understood. The
question of the city hall is not ready for
discussion at this time We should first
appoint committee to draft bylaws, and
get hall 10 meet in. A set of rules which
are binding should be made and lived up to,
and heavy fine imposed on any one who
disregarded them. Regarding kletting, if
they have seen fit to give him the contract,
we can do no more in the matter and must
let it pass
NJ. ID. Kern-As I understand it, the con-
tract has not yet been awarded, and | think
it time to act now. l have seen a number
of the committee, and the majority are not
IN favor of giving it to one man without
giving the rest a chance. In order to do
the city and county justice, we should now
make proposition to the council for them
to work on. The council is not able to
pick one man out of eighteen or twenty of
u.s. and say he can furnish the best plans
First of all we should organize and then
act.
g. H. Labelle-As l understand it. the
object of this organization is to keep out
foreign competition. During my residence
in the city have seen enough to know that
the resident architects are competent to do
any and all the work which will be done
here and the work should be given to you
IN preference to those who do not reside
l here and who neither pay taxes nor have
an interest here. We can be of assis lance
to one another aud protect ourselves
against that class Of nlen who are not
architects and who get up sketches and
persuade people to build by them, without
consulting an architect. Those who follow
! their advice find that instead of saving
, money as represented, they get so encum-
, bered that they don't know how to get out
and their building costs much more than
they anticipated. A fine should be imposed
9 on all members of the proposed organiza-
tion who allow these non professionals to
work in their Offices
Mr.. Kern-I have had some experience
in this same thing, and l think it should be
done away with.
4 w. S. Hedges-We should organize under
the rules of the American Association of
Arihitects, and become a chapter of that
organization.
e The motion to appoint a committee on
rules was then carried, and the following
, architects were appointed: NJ D, Kern.
Il w. S Hedges, F. A. Halo. b. j. Reeve and
w. e. Ware. The committee is to have
bylaws, ETC., prepared ready for presenta-
ton at a meeting to be held in one week
Mr.. La Belle moved that committee be
:, appointed to draft resolutions to be pre-
Il sented to the city and county building com
L mittee, asking that the architects of the
city be permitted to compete in the plans
for the buildings. 1t was then suggested
q that those present should express them
# selves on the question before voting on it
B. j. Reeve said-I agree with the gentle
man and believe that we should be entitled
to compete. That Mr.. Kletting has pull
y. on it is quite evident but it is public
building and we should not be shut out.
G.. +. Costerison-I never henrd of sucl
thing as letting contract for public
building to one man without entering int
@ a competition. 1t is an insult to the archi
n tects OF the city. We are here to stay ant
should have equal chances.
Mr.. Dallas-I heartily approve of compe
tition in this matter. 1t is not in justice t.
the public to erect building of this kint
on one mans idea. If there is competition
the suggestions of the different men can b.
. combined and we will have a monumen
- worthy of the city. The method of com
II petition should be on the same plan as tina
adopted for the city hall at ST. Louis.
w. E. Ware-We should meet with tht
committee and present prepared resoiu
Id tons Since the plans of Apponyi were no
accepted we are entitled to enter in com
petitiye contest
+. A Hale-I was out of town at tn
st time when the question came up and too
~ no part in it. This is a public building an
every one should have an equal show
Wire pulling is ali right in private matter
is but not in public. Utah architects are CON
. petent to do the work. l have reason to bt
y leve that there is some opposition to tina
method of awarding the contract. The Cit
:. and county have been very unfortunate i
~ their plans. The people are getting tire
i y<r.r
the spring. 1t will require too much tim
a to prepare complete plans aud l would SUE
g, gest that single sketches be prepared Civ
-, ing our ideas and then the architect
% whom was awarded the contract coul
IL, work on them during the winter
ss H. Monheim-I had a conversation wit
90 one of the committeeman and suggeste
that's committee of architects be app0inte
to Judge the plans. There is feelin
against letting the contract without CON
petition and | am also opposed to it.
D. T. Keiller-I think the committt
should be appointed and the question pre-
scented to the council.
A E, White-Time is the escence in tn
case and we should act at once.
M. ID. Kern-The question has alread
been discussed and l have nothing to say.
w. S. Hedges-My opinion has bee
voiced by those who have spoken before N
The chairman then appointed Messr
Hale Carroll, Dallas, Monheim and Spoil
the committee to prepare resolutions TO
submitted to the joint city and county cor
mittees.
he The meeting then adjourned until p. 1
o EVENING SESSION.
zee When the meeting re-asSembled, M
Hale as chairman of the committee on res
lutions read the document as prepared /
as the committee. Itw taken up and Car
lts fully revised, and after some unimporta