The Seattle post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, Wash. Terr. [Wash.]) 1888-1914, 1890-05-15
GROVER DID SWEAR.
Cleveland's Language About
Dana Unfit to Print.
THE lnreRuEweR's DEFENSE.
The Fat Man's Remarks Not MIsxtated.
bat Modified ny Omission u vile
Phrases and Epithets-


President Cleveland has created such =
sensation. does not desire to rest under the
imputasion OF faisehood contained in Mr.
Cieveland's denial and the Woyl.fs retrac-
ton. and gives his version OF the affair as
Illustrated Newspaper.
Grover Cleveland has, believe. seen fit
to deRy certain portions OF the interview
with him Published in the Verdi OF Thurs
day, April IL. He declares that he never
used the violent and incorporate language
ascribed to him in speaking of Mr.. Dana
In view of Mr.. cieyeland's denial. it seems
to me that the writer OF the interview
should be permitted 60 state his side of the
case Ny own reputation is rs dear 10 me
as Mr.. Clevelard's can possibly be to him.
and in this connection wish TO say that
| am deeply grateful to my newspaper
friends and others for their kindly express
ssons OF confidence in my Integrity.
assert on nav honor that Mr.. Cleveland
was correctly reported in the interview in
question. He wss not misrepresented in
any particular. | did nos write eli that
Mr.. Cleveland said. but what did write
was faithful and accurate report OF the
conversation. Much Of what was omitted
was simply unprintable in any respectable
journal.
The circumstances attending the inter-
view were as follows: Wednesday after
noon. April i6. received an assignment
from the city editor Of the World.
James +. Graham to go an interview Mr..
Cleveland regarding q story published in the
Sun of that day TO the effect that the ex-
president was under special treatment.
invented by DR.. Schweninger. OF Germany,
for reducing flesh. Mr.. Cleveland was
represented in the article rs gaining IN
weight at the rate OF twenty-five pounds a
month. and IL was said that both he and
his friends were seriously alarmed at his
condition. | arrived at Mr.. Cleveand's
Office, As William street. little after
O'Clock. l inquired If Mr.. Cleveland was
in, and. receiving an Affirmative answer
from one Of the clerks. sent my card to him
as the representative Of the Word.
There could have been no misapprehen-
sion as to the nature OF my visit. II was in
no sense . social or personal call. In a
few minutes the Clerk brought back word
that Mr.. Cleveland would see me. and
was ushered into his private Office. We
were alone together for nearly three
quarters of an hour, and Mr.. Cleveland
talked very freely and emphaticaliy. Mr..
Cleveland spoke in has usually deliberate
=
normal condition.
began By informing him of the object
Of my call, and told him the World would
be glad TO publish any statement he cared
to make. He said he had not seen the ,Sun
Article Che never read the paper, he said,
and would not touch It with . pair Of
tongs), and | gave him verbally the gist of
and made use Of profane expression re-
fiecting on the chastity Of Dana's mother.
This was omitted from the published In
terview.
CALLED DANA A sENILE OLD LIAR AND
THIEF.
Mr.. Cleveland then launched into
vigorous denunciation Of the editor OF the
San He said he was q BLACKBOARD. vaga-
bond and dastardly scoundrel. He also
characterized him as "a seniie old liar and
thief. with the addition OF profane pre-
fix. Several other profane words figured
in Mr.. Cieveland's remarks, but none Of
them. Of course, we're published. After
the conversation had gone on for fifteen or
twenty minutes Mr.. Cleveland asked me
what was going 10 publish. and I told
him the substance OF what he had said.
He drew pencil from his pocket. and.
picking up pad, said:
Il viii write out something 70 guide
you"
He then wrote the following, which is
the first paragraph Of the published inter-
view:
81 have not" said Mr.. Cleveland. s.seen the
article you refer TO, and II il appears nowhere
else but in the Sua there il not The least chance
OF my seeing IT, OF course the entire thing Is .
lie, without the least prefext 10 excuse t. 4
Cdss wh. ss ss the s.s s sss 81,
upon subject which can be used 70 annoy me.
Ia this he il mistaken. He must be his own
Judge o. social asc s ana y m ana ana
in his apparently peculiar mental condition, be
molested In his amusement"
This did not end the interview. After
writing the above. Mr.. Cleveland talked for
more than twenty minutes Before Mr..
Cleveland took up his pencil 10 write any
thing he had said in substance much OF the
matter contained in the interview. In
preparing IL for Publication inserted II IS
following his written paragraph All of
the matter In the following paragraphs
took place In the first stages OF the inter
view:
Continuing. Nj. Cleveland said that he had
endesvo,ed, since coming TO ne CITY TO rssIas.
force himself into prominence, and had. IN fact.
coursed the retirement OF private life. II be
should sccspt ali the Invitations for social en-
joysnenf he received he would have to abandon
his igw practice, and be bad decided not 10 sc-
cepf any. Mr. Cleveland said that he had been
treated with great deal OF kintness end con-
pgeeistei II thoroughly.
II do not csre." NJ Cleveland aided. show
much arm criticised for mr. public acts 1hst
IL perfectly legitimate and RECOGNIZES the night
al every man 10 differ on puo.ic qnestioas
There is line. howsyey, IL seems 20 me, where
criticism and abuse should stop The man
d1fges in coarse and wsnton attacks On private
eifixesis Ia no better than Q htghwaymAn lie
places hisnself on the level Of the black guard,
aud his yulzasisies can have M weight With de-
r.ysx s.s<sr,5r
Resar2ing the frequent personal attacks upon
hsmself in the columns Of the sna Nj. Clcvs-
tine ens appeared . sFxcn crsnss. mere or Lees.
would wTsfe 20 him about IL. Whenever ] re
eefya tAsse crsnks grtseFs.r said Ar. Cleveland.
has feen Il Il again. That Is the only wsg !
keeF, track OF ais mental raviuxs The ohtess,
suppose. . 10 annoy zae and nay fsienss"
arTAcgs or sgs. CLEVELAND.
Mr.. Cleveland then alluded 20 his wife,
and said that Mr. Dana had not confined
his attack TO himself. He made war on
women ~ well rs men. The attacks On
Mrs Gle elxrd had not been made openly
or directly. bat By Mr.. Dana's favorsle
method. irnuendo and indsrecsion- Much
Of the matter consisted Of alleged praise Of
Mrs Cleveland with the idea OF making .
contrast 10 Mr. CBevelandss disadvantage.
Cranss we're sure 20 send Hrs. Cleveland
clipping, ard they annoyed her very
mnch Mr. Cleveland sad distinctly:
ssThe ---- cid thief. Dams. has NOT hesi-
tated 10 drag my wsfe's a2nse into bis sur
riloas attacks. 4 man who makes war On
women, Ia Infamous.
In she course OF the latter part OF the
csnversssson told Mr.. Cleveland that /
should like 70 use more OF his talk than he
hnd written ont referred especially 10
the point be Made sbozt the attacks on
Mrs. Cleveland. lie gave RE permission
% do 80 lie sail:
81 have no objections
Here Is sssas wreEe In that connection,
s,a q 1. sz.nssantiaz.v what Mr.. lsevelsnd