New-York tribune., 1890-04-20

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ion but for such influence might exercise on Ho
Ocal authorities and am not In the hapV VI s1'n ,
political influence under tie guise OF re'aihers ,,, r
Mr.. Whitney that thinking 1t all over au w. ''" ~
could take his retainer. told him wouiu uo ',''
IS much 10 get the matter through as ho
had paid me- spoke to MN aoou.
IL several times and got lunch from hh-ho' so'
something else, another lunch. nave "o,". ,.,oa,
ceived, directly indirectly, Tor myscn VI y
else in any shape form, in money or pio"'o '"
money I'm things that represent money IN tihss 'ha'
represent value of any kind or character as much S
would buy single cigar , ~
Mr. Cochran INDUCED in several hymns OF
sy, IN having tHe cable resolution get through
the Board of Aldermen without any oI olese
nameess influences from which, oeileVe' eve"
A1I1S 'I not uV Mr. Whitney say in substance to
you," asked Mr. Boardman, that 1t wouia 9s
no Sir replied Mr.. Cochran, :" think MT.
whitney felt that there was better day in the
local government than there m o was nor im how mucb
time elapsed between the presentation OF TINS
application to the Board OF Aldermen anu 'he
adention of the necessary resolution -
""Sfi'bi think it ali occurred the same day"
"That was very unusual" remarked Mr. board-
mai r. q man who contemplates the Board of 1884.
YES was the ready retort.
'eIMr Roa ardman asked Mr. Cochran if he thought
that the Board OF Aldermen, as now CONSTITUTES,
should have the power TO override 1he Mayor
wy a good deal will depend on who is the Mayor
and who are the Adermen repeu pclsss of of nen than
,be Mayor, it's good thing to let them over over
ride his veto If the Mayor is super superior animal
NJ 1Roardman asked number of questions IN
,h M, some line bearing on the relations of the
Mayor 70 other branches Of ab.m 1ne clsH WITH rheto
SaT MI No"r;sSes ESUNlSn didactic and moral OBJ
servations, ssr n''d and AIRY persfage Finally
Senator Fassett remarked III stIlkes nle ors We S
lectures ana lew dnSNcio.
Mr. Cochran declared that he was there OF on "a d
personal matter, to make statement ia Sian n
ono thinf and he was not present as Noiol W
, onJ ss,sestions and answer abstract questions
However, he said if Mr.. Boardman went out Ill IL
luncheon with him he woua ;roa DC a"pp pippformation
Croker and Mr.. Grant, while on n the Sinking fuhd'
weIe Ta"sr Hall has no leader sir" returned
NJ Cockran "Those who supposed 70 oe
leaders are followers, among whom lnciuoe nS-
Mr.. wins asked some more questions.
o-Do you remember the circumstansss unoer not WHcn
he Broadway sncie %ss Si Counsel for Mr. and
Tor Nj YOU became for Mr. whitney
AN0h. no never became counsel for Mr. whitney .;.
in the sense Of having his retainer am very Wbtne fa
very eneeray gave viii ehserqy give again Som
oIn ss4 What may GaSc ca road Nf in Broadway but
Mir sharp's company succeeded IN geltns g. .1 and his
chisc for horse railway Are Mr. "9sey heT a'u Sought
in Iss4, Xoh they are much better position ~
and it shows how much better person comes out o'
doing exactly right ,u,.
~ in better tS position si9 c first tns Bcsra o
think S to MAKE %htnf from thu
the correct thing 10 have me discuss suSi witness
and Won have consumed most Of the time in falling
10 answer questions A,Mr Iv,ns' ahstract 1a % Sues
t;one ~ Won ask me about my own peisohaI
nections with this Broadway ROAD am p''p'''N
you where Mr. Croker sv was sss the bdas nShs
that N ss Rya time yeat o tho s
Ds%Ss Tnsss Celebration New
SorHi Al never knew that Mr. Croker went
you ever hear Mr. Croker was b 6rC@st %s
SfsSi ID order Sy Nt To- oS SShn after fS sa
cable matter next day. DO yS@ rsmeM9sf snTns p Of
TSfE snS nf5s soy eaor oA Fan anns sGR
nysn Is c enSsSp sTias fieaf dsa GU to-
o."x Close iriend' Al don't even know that he
ooon c'Sss terms Of familiarity' A-9h, yes ,,.
Gle was the treasurer, was ne not, OF .ins t,is
Broadway Railroad cOmpany' A'-He was some k'no
Sy6er %ben Mr.. Wins finished his examination. Mr.
Cochran shook HANDS WIN MI Mr; fDS'e''' M anu '"0'
P6il;n Fitzgibbons, messenger in the Registers
oAice identified some hbers OF conveyance.
Mr. wins read entries in one of the books showing
tho, on .June 23. 1899, James Keating bought
snme pronertv at Twenty fth-st
md Fifth-ave for which he paid S65,0oo, ana
that one week later, for the same sum- LIE Trans
ferred the property TO Richard Croker.
have been trying TO find Keating for several
days" said Mr. WINS have not saccecoeo ber
meeting / have thought it necessary to get these
books in at this stage .a -, .ho
committee as the representative Of the American
Socialistic Labor party in New-l9rk. lie was was
sworn He presented spscnlD ",r,e and asked the
committee to investigate them The charges nad a
reference to the clubbing of the Socialists by the
police at Fssctt III said" said that the com
mittee would take up the charges when the
Police Department. was investigated -, .nor. o.,
experience that he had in connection win tne
Board of Aldermen. lie was interested in getting
as11d franSHass Ward '0' william Cauided appointed
as committee to make the necessary applicS;uon
to the Board of Aldermen met nett the e0@.Ief nd aseI
him how he was getting along with the arrange
ment. He said i can do nothing with them iei
lows said to him: ! suppose .neI Uni, WAN wan,
money lie said; That's It, lna'S all ""''
General Roy Stone difficult witness TO sY sN
anime lie was exceedlngiy cautioas, t" stonI %d' IT.
not seem to he at all at ease on the STAND III
testified that he was interested in the appllcauoi
made ~ the Board of Aldermen in regard 10
tunnel under the East River. The Application wa
considered by the Railroad Committee OF the Boar
Of 1888 and was finally rejected The applIcaa,lo
was renewed in 1899, but he was not ncote., ,i
concerned in making the second appnca'ion
He said that In 1888 gentlemen
introduced himself as member
sbe Board. who said it was necessary
before the bill should pass that he should know
whom TO see" with reference to it, The Genera
did not follow the affair up, did not continue th'
conversation. and did not ask any questions. lii
supposed" he understood what was meant. IN
Alderman also had informed him That the oil
@ committee WIN tn
methods the company was uslne.
The General was reluctant to give the name o
the Alderman who approached him. lie SAT-
he had testified 10 the whole affair to the Gram
Jury. but he did not know that this coInnitte
vas sitting as Grand jury TO lhcrimlnat