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Browns motion have nothing to do
with question before the House. The re-
port cannot possibly be before the House
until il is understood by MI the menu
bers. Therefore, all motions to dispose
Of it are out OF order
President Walker states that interpre-
ter says he cannot translate without time
TO revise it. rule that the House cam
not take action on tin that case.
Minister Thurstou says Req Browns
position is in accord with the :uling 81
the chair. 1t is from this ruling that
Rep. Kalua appeals say the ruling
oil the chair is correct, that there ID moth
ing before the House. and that no action
can be taken, and that the report must
| he returned 10 the committee as the
chair has ruled it should be.
Rep. kalua made some observations
which were not translated.
Attorney-Genera says the fact that the
report was not in Hawaiian was known
before the reading began Some mem
| bers had found out after hearing it read
| that it was loaded, and now they want
| to keep it from the native members
This is, as q matter of parliamentary
ethics, grossly unfair. II the interpreter
cannot interpret it, one of the committee
can, and support the appeal.
| KEEP. Nawahl says he hopes the appeal
will be Withdrawn. The House has
elected President and ought to sustain
| him when correct
| President Walker says he makes no
ruling IS to translation, but simply that
report is not read yet, and therefore not
before the House.
| Noble Widemann says no vote can
| be taken on report as it is not before the
House.
Minister of Interior-Correct.
| Rep. Bush-I think, Mr.. President,
you should order the Interpreter to trans
| late the document. He can do it. do
not propose to do the work of the Inter
prefer of this House.
Mr.. Wilcox, the Interpreter, states the
| document is complicated and full oil
authorizations and interlineation. The
| House has appointed me interpreter, not
translator. have done q great deal Of
work which belongs, like this, to the
translator.
Rep. Bush-I am not making reflec.
tons on the Interpreter. but it ought to
be read, as has usually been done. The
Hawaiian members ought to know the
contents. Let the Interpreter give the
| gist OF it.
| Rep. Bush asks what the ruling of the
chair is. Chair restates it.
Minister Ashford says the logical in.
ference from the ruling is that when the
| point has been passed on, il sustained
the reading must then proceed.
Minister Thurston says he understood
the ruling was that the report was out o.
order because not in both languages.
President Walker-Yes, that was the
ruling.
Minister Ashford-Why out of order
President Walker-Because not beins
in both languages it cannot be before thu
House.
Minister Ashford-I understand, ant
appeal is withdrawn.
| Rep Kalna-I will withdraw the an
peal on condition that President Walker
shall withdraw his ruling.
Minister Ashford-The ruling is reall,
that reading must proceed. Calls o
question:
Rep. Kalua--Ii withdraw the appea
and the President does not withdraw hi
ruling, we are just where we were in tn
beginning.
| Noble 8aldwin-The chair ruled tina
it must be returned to the committee fo
correction, 80 that in that ruling alone
must be returned. The second ruling
that it must be returned because not i,
both languages.
Rep. Bush-The reading must 20 on
How can native members know wha
language is, unless it is read. Dresden
That is what / am ruling on.)
Appeal is withdrawn.
President Walker rules against tn
contention of the Minister of the Interio
and in accordance with that of the AT
torney-General, that the reading mus
60 on.
The report was then translated by til,
Interpreter.
Noble Baldwin-As member of tn,
committee who has not signed the re
port, moveit be laid on the table, unit
can bring minority report. objec
strongly to the haste with which this re
port has been brought in. We had
meeting of the committee yesterda,
afternoon, and it was agreed that tn,
committee meet the next day in tn,
Foreign Office to examine extracts o
the private correspondence of the Min
lister of Foreign Affairs, and possibly
other documents, If we found anything
relevant. We were to collect furthe
evidence. This morning in the Hous'
the chairman of the committee sent m,
report with q note stating that the,
had decided to report this morning.
Noble Mccarthy says the motion +
lay on the table is not debateable.
Noble Baldwin-proceedingI hav
not even had time to read the repor
through. l think it only just to della
action until / can bring a minority Ee
port.
Rep. Marques rise to point q
order. Report has already been referre
to the committee to make certain
changes. We wish to have all the docu
}. ments presented to the House and the
the report printed.
Noble Widemann-Laying on table i
all right, but the Noble Of Maui ma
!! keep it forever.
Rep. Bush rises to point of order
Motion to lay ON the table has not bee
seconded.
Rep. Brown move to lay on tabl
until the minority report comes in.
Rep. kapaehaole wishes to know ho'
long it will be before the minority N
port will come in
President Walker-Can't tell.
Noble Baldwin-It won't be long.
, On rising vote the motion to lay o
table is carried by vote of 26 to %.
The House adiourns at IL noon to /
A. N. Friday.
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