The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-09-02

with the interests of the country. The
committee ought to have seen the books
of the construction company. He was in
favor of liberal subsidy, but not of such
wild sums as were here proposed He
believed in the road, and believed that il
would be of considerable public benefit
Rep. Kapaehaole's amendment would
call for over $780, The House was
giving Mr.. Dillingham; an exclusive
franchise. He recognized fully Mr. Dill
lingham's energy; $1,000 or $500 a
mile would be liberal subsidy. No
sane man would favor pledging the Coy
ernment's credit to any such enterprise,
unless its success was certain :
Rep. Kapaehaole wanted to know how
he made out that his amendment would
call for $245 900.
Noble Macfarlane- Because 20 miles
at So, 800 per mile makes $245, 900. We
must not forget that if we do this much
for the Oahu Railroad, we shall have to
do as much for the Hilo and Hamakua
road. We are appropriating money here
as though we had surplus to deal with.
Unless we stop, we shall have pretty
big deficiency have conferred with a
number of conservative business men,
and they agree. l think the views of a
careful conservative business men like
Noble Isenberg, who knows the subject
about which he is talking, ought to have
great weight with this House.
Rep. Bush favored the amendment OF
the member from Molokai. In striking
out the guarantee, we have struck out at
least "a per cent. of the credit of the
company, in raising money. 1t is SIM
pie fact there is large amount of avail
able land on this side and the other The
steamers will carry double the number
of bananas over to the Coast, if this line
is built. We can perhaps in consequence
decrease the subsidy paid to the steam
ship company for which We get in COM
parison SO little in return. There are al
ready two plantations started in conse-
quence of the railroad. The plantation
in Kahuku will be taxable about mil
lion of dollars. The United States would
be forty years behind the age without her
railroads. We will get our money back
in a few years through the rise in values.
Property in Eva has risen ten times,
through the railroad. The facts are plain
before us.
Rep. Kapaehaole stated in regard to
Noble Macfarlane's figures, that even if it
did cost the Government $245 900 in the
five years, yet the increase of taxes
would begin Immediately and the Gov
eminent would begin at once to get its
money back. If we build railroads and
other public works, the national wealth
will advance SO that amounts which now
look large will look very small.
Noble Baldwin had felt during the dis
cussion of the bill that not enough facts
had been offered to enable members
from the other islands to form an intelli-
gent conclusion. The committee ought
to have furnished facts as to acreage, ETC.
He had the general idea that it would
open up good deal of productive coun-
Try. He believed in encouraging the
road by proper and good subsidy. The
deserved credit for the tenacity
and pluck with which they had stuck to
The work, and they ought to be encour-
aged. People in this country are apt to |
settle down to an easy going sort of way,
70 travel over good paths because their |
athers did SO, and think it well enough. |
# we had been told twelve years ago |
What our position would be now, we |
would have laughed at it. So really |
hink that ten or twelve years hence it |
will be the same. ! really believe this,
md l think We ought to give the road
help. l shall favor the
at 500 per mile. | have
igured it out and my figures do not agree
With those of Noble Macfarlane.
Rep. Kahookano was sorry there were
10 capitalists in the House. If there
we're, after hearing the statements made,
hey would help Mr.. Dillingham; at once
without waiting Tor subsidy. He was
Wiling to pay subsidy as it stands in
be section.
Noble Walbridge wished some fur
her explanation of section 3. The
uestion is, does each mile get subsidy
i s., 800 or does the subsidy terminate
together at the end of the filth year.
makes great difference.
Noble lsenberg said as he understood
each mile was to receive the full SUBJ
idy.
The previous question was carried.
The ayes and noes were called for on
he indefinite postponement of section 8
18th the following result:
Ayes = Muller, Hind, Burchardt,
aker, Richard, Kahookano, White.
Noes-Cummins, g. Brown, Spencer,
eterson, Berger, Macfarlane, Pua, Nc
arthy, Phillips, Crabbe, Kauhane, ].
[. Homer, Marsden, Baldwin, Corn
ell, Walbridge, Anderson, Won Temp
Ky, g. N. Wilcox. Kanoa, Isenberg, C.
rown, Cummings, Marques, Lucas, R.W.
,ilcox, Rosa, Bush, Kauhi, A. Horner,
'aipuilani, Apiki, Paehaole, Kanealii,
alua. Halstead, Kamai, Rice, A. S. Will
,x-39.
The amendment of Rep. Kapaehaole
as carried fixing the subsidy at 500
er mile for five years by the following
,te:
Ayes-Cummins, e. Brown, Spencer,
eterson, Mccarthy, Phillips, Crabbe,
auhane, j. NJ. Horner, Marsden, Bald ,
in, Cornwell, Walbridge, Anderson,
IN Tempsky, 6. N. Wilcox, Kanoa,
Brown, Cummings, Marques, Lucas,
!. w. Wilcox, Rosa, Bush, Kauhi,
Horner, Paehaole, Rice-2S.
Noes = Berger, Macfarlane, Muller,
Ia, Hind, Burchardt, Isenberg, Baker,
ickard, Kahookano, Waipuilani, Apiki.
hite, Kanealii, Kalua, Halstead, Ka-
al, A. s. Wilcox-1S. I
Noble Macfarlane's amendment chang |
g the wording was passed and the
nended section was passed.
The House adjourned at 8 :35 P. NJ.