New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-05-04

contendcd 1t expired at midnight the 3ist OF Decem
| Q.EWhat was Your position in reference to this
~ psdn,a 1.-The contention was that the Board
VI ,hchs ohclal existence expired ~ noon on the
| ISL OF January, and my MayOraty ended at midnight
an Injunction was got out restraining me from max
| Ihg the appointment.
NJ Cochran Gnterposing,--The claim was that the
president OF the Boari Of Aldermen became Mayor for
| midday.
o-What organization did you represents A.-Not
any.
Q-Who were the candidates at that time for the
place OF Commisso joiner Of Public Works. A.-iincre
Among other candidates Hubert O. Thompson
! representing the County Democracy, ana John NC
ODD You Keep a list Of the candidates. A..
o.-Is it not possible that Mr. Grant amons
| them? A-Pcrhaps. but it was not known to me.
o QLind Mr. Croker speak to YOU at that time re
W wv %' we're rA9 the p1sm nS leaders of
, Hal . Al think all the Tammany men vs at tGs
a, dclegaon came with McQuade asking for his ap
Q.-who were pushing Nr. Thomp,on? A.-The
Democrats delegation also came from them headed
Mr. MARITIME. Peter f. Olncy. John Dcvlin, and some
five or six Others whom | don't remember.
3-Werc son elected on citizens ticket A. ~:
| Q-FrOm whom did You receive the nomination
| A-from the Democratic Convention.
| T. NJ that convention there were delegates pres
| emf from the County Democracy and from Iammany
Q.What reason had You for thinking your nomina-
| by the Board of Aldermen A-Tlc Board and were
| '"l WI WfbuUt Oh lUc BfOdl"Ay kdlIO"l mditfI'
thot timei A.-Yes.
Q.-Wcrc there any suits ont then A.-No the
| matter had not then come To the surface.
Q.-What lnduccmcnt did they offer for the ap-
pontment Of Thomp,on' A.-That he wa County
Democracy man. and vas emincnty qualified for the
| position. and on.
ne !nduccmcnt Of future support or anything OF tint
KIND n A.,No, sIIi .. ,uo., nr.., r,r+,cn,,,
obligations to th S'nI' ' XUiioth Of them
Odd you say TO either delegation that before
that The Board of Aldermen would confirm t' A.
Q.-Whom did you finally appoint A.-spuire.
Q:.Who called your attention 70 squire a. proper
candidate Al think squire came to me himself
Judge oiiIder,iccvc spoke Of him very hiesy..
Q:-was Keenan, al that time in exile A'-So'
=. @ Did he say anything to you Of squirrel A.
Q.-Had Won any intlmation Of the treatment Squire
would receive at the hands Of the Board' A-sqnlre
told me himself
Q h. he , give any o rQnd 1 FOR sS o sS
o-bid what he ,aid convince you that he would
o"Thcn when you sent him in you were not con
WINGED he would be confirmed A-No; l think
Q-Then what was tho difficulty in the way Of yonr
appointing whoever Won pleased for that place A.
did appoint whom pleased.
Q-~,juirc was your personal choice Ayes.
{ You don't know w = means hc ;ook 70 get me
GLOW long did II take for him 10 got them 10 con
firm him Alive minutes. llioar' Of laughter
" Nh- tnrF al uNish"i pressure l"T ''' P'"'''
A.-l"S.
o-Is $1,000 the average scramble A-The aver
ago Is about rs high A. that.
Q.-That j. very important place. A-fes; very
important for The cts.
nc 81 many important contracts without confirmation
4 authorities Ayes, he does. such for Instance
the paving and nearly all the contracts made by the
O-Therc are chances Of fnvortsml Al should
Q-Eyen with perfectly honest mani Ale
would not he a perfectly honest man II he stopped
ON. only refer 70 the legally honest man
the man who ,lrewdy keeps outside Of any criminal
The amounts spent very large A-lc~.
Q Can Won give me some doa Of what il averaged
during yo 'eT & e@ Of o?' pnIC Works in yonr
day member cy oficio Of any other public board
o-what boardi A.-of thc--oh. we'll that is
a mater - rcords lie member by law Of the
Sew Aqucduct Board.
QDd be- haze. any Jurisdiction in the Twenty
thiri ard Twenty frur'h wards A-lcs.
Glad me contracts been let at MS time for
the si Sc. Aeaae' man a. h,d d'i g. I'm, e appoint
Mayor Grant VINO had been sitting on the plat
form with the com nittcc during the examination
~ Nr Edison. TOOK the wirneS,-chair lie did not
look AZ all III at ease and answered Mr. Choate's
questions in clear voice. easily heard all over
the room He said he had read Mr.. McCanns tes-
timony Of last Saturday and had heard his exam
ination ~ the forenoon.
Gle testified that Mr.. Croker told him that he.
Croker could make i've or ten cents on each barrel
- cement used in the construction ~ The AGueduct or
90 other WORK Of the Department of Public Works. II
YOU Grant wer' app )lntcd Al have no know ledge
Q.-N4- there ever any conversation between YOU
and Mr. Croacr on any such subject T. -No.
O. understand tAlt McCann stated that Won on a
certain occasion. at his place In the presence ~ his
vfc and hcr sister STAGED that under oblisl-
ton. 10 Sir croker hrcau-, he had saved you from
7 - %
road Al never made such statement.
Q.-Auf he also staied that on the way downtown
t. the ON" %. Mr. Lowers You said In substance the
-anr thing \ No. sr.
Odd you ever naAc any such ,tatcmcnt or any |
thing 10 tiat tenor or effect any part Of Il, u
Nh q Clnuf H.. W. sir.
9. .. t.c.e an, truth IN the statement or ip,irua
iaaIne part 30 that operation 49, ,ir.
Mr. Choat" then repeated McCanns testimony |
about Crokers visit with 81 10000. which was 10 |
he used among the Aldermen for Grants CON
Irritation Commissioner of Public Works Mr..
Grant said that. FAR rs he had any knowledge.
1t utterly untrue Mr. Choatc then asked
1-pa o YOU contribute at hat time, or at any
c'nis, or any money a. all for any such purpose
Al did not.
Z. bid Won ever offer yourself rs a candidate for
~" office OF Commissioner OF Pablo Works A-Nc.
Q, Except As ,our name may have been casually
mentioned III the newspapers, which wa Therefore
presumably without authority. IA you ever have
anF ku1wlcder suspicion or belief thar you wer
tandaAtc for the office A.-ho. ,r. There was
-Dmc general conversation about II. but there wa,
uey'r au, ,.riou- conversation about my being can
hdlie. tp my mind
Q.-Ilarc Nou any recollection Of any
conversation with ~ Mayor Edison Ave. |
mean the rtmmany Hall member, Of tho
Board. very anxious 10 have person
ehO not a di,tnciiycK Comfy Democracy man
appointed. ard We, far could cOOpridt"d
q get The appointment Of a ranmlny Hall man ana
fhat candidalS -, | understand II. always wa, Mr.
McQuade.
O.-Wcrc you cetr a party in the month Of De
cmbcr. any other time In the administration OF
ur. Edison. 10 raising fund Of money {" secure te
confirmation by The Board Of Aldermen of any can
iiiatc fOi an, oii,ct A.-Ho.
O.-I tclicv" Won have lately written 10 Mr tdsoh |
III the subject, and Your letter and his have been
made public AYES. |
Q.-NoN would yOu please state what nave Dccn
he personal relations between YOU and Mr.. Croker |
md Mr., Croker and Mrs. CrOkerS children, rom
hat time II originated. and now long II continued
,.-Our relations were very intimate. became ac
luainted with Mr. Croker + think, in 1883 In the
o.; BOARD OF Aldermen Mr.. CROKER wa candua.o