New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-04-27

committee do not want to force YOU - "o a"H
thing painful and yet this is very serious
matter
senator Fassett himself elected the information
IN Mccain. was it man who told you p he
asked.
NO"
WAS it woman?'
Eyes"
WAS it your wife,
She was one of the parties
"Who the other?'
Her sister Mrs, Croker
"Tben we understand that Mrs. Croker told
Won that during Mr.. Grants term as Sherln ne
gave S25, 1000 TO Flossie?'
Yes" 80 A..
Did you ever hear what was done with 'n''
money! J.. >,.,r+
Morris-ave'
Mr. Ivins asked Mr. McCann if he knew LeiceS-
Tor Uome the Mayors private secretary MI
NcCann said he did. and the examination "en'
on as follows ,,., ,nor.
o~Do YOU know whether Leicester Holne knows
Mrs Croker Ale does. ,.e
o-Do YOU know whether Leicester Home mas
visited Mrs Croker since this investigation oesan
Ayes.
O-IIow do you know that A-shc toio ms
Odd she tell YOU how often he had visited her
A-Three times in one day. , - ~ month
Q--When was thao Gay Az '"'' ~
NJ Croker went to I"rG Ss Stand A as wit
mes! Alt since the committee pesan l'' WI"
Hei o-Did Mrs Crokcr tell YOU the reason Of Mr.
Holmes visit A-Yes. Than. ar.,r
QWhat did she tell YOU IL was "A: hnlines
Mr.. Fas~ett-unless 1t Is connected WIZ" '"' i"
t" ;sG ST. e Sy t n; T 1%s H saa
e e Nr the rS city SuFnS nyeSaSa was 5s5
he subject Of ,he eCnversatiSn oe"een MIS- 'fOA''
o-Wha did she tell yon was TIE sueec1 na a.
Of the conversation during these visits A'-io nave
"e o 20 she tel you that Mr.. Holmc had offered
any sum of money or to pay her expenses 70 ~ %
o@IiOr much did she say Mr. Home had offered
Mr. yns tlna i S neeessary-a direct tempt
10 senator Fsssett-was it the amount Of her ex-
9MMSe a arce iyr in Excess of the amount Of her
expenses ANo for LADY with f IA ,o NO with
her family for some months abroad Alt would
uePgruI yinsIt would have lasted until this Legislature
had adjourned, and until ms nVesueat"h n"u "'
Mr. Fasscti-I don't suppose the witness can ah'"e
'"e Mr. Ivns-1t would last until the first Of June
would it not? Al suppose 30. ,,oo-,or uo,na
o-Have ever heard whether he'd iSe ike propo
S''on whom A.-Dr. Bcekman.
Si,sve Won heard what proposition Mr. Holme
made 70 Dr. Beckman A.To pay his expenses ,,a ana
pay him during his sGenee wea fro me hi practice
Q.-Who is Dr. Bechman ANS 'IoAe' '"'''''
p"0 '"Who told You about Mr.. Holmes visit A
The doctor himself a., 1900. ..,or,,v forms
e. Gd ( S%T snd @
had word Of unpleasantness personally ,n,
The frS. Year Mr. Grant Vas elected sheriff i lie
had been sheriff sbodt three or c iSr in reference
70 me and 10 my business. We oairfu sone omo S n
that were utterly untrue 1 1Honsh Of sSc telling fs>c
hoods think that was some tune II ioop' h sno
~ e ta S,ifF matters ns never had any trouble with
Mr Croker until Mr. Grant began to NEEDLE hsv'
not o mev ar Brought him to Your store with that
moSey AIe came 70 me two years b &hew on,
SnRe1San seStcman in ss neghboGhood wh2m
and whom the Aldermen that he wanted to reach
would be willing % tr as te h%H pa nr Ui
10 that was the financial manager OF II; .. Claili
& Co; but Jus, then in disgrace Win '"e"i ana
oTe Us detail about that circum Hs nc ,h i"
hi, coming in ale cane t to fhe and pr sske s me
if this man Adams was rerfcc,,E renaniei ~ ,ou
linn as far as sew s r xaa .c hey had
versatlon. don't know what took place net" Ssr
Croker wanted 10 negotiate with refused t" trust
Adams.
Tell what he said and what YOU said.' said
Senator McNaughton. continuing what was pIac-
ticallv q crOSS-eXamlnatlon
He told me he had been out all DAY. and had
made ARRANGEMENTS TO have Mr. Grant made Com
missioner OF Public Works. 1t necessary 10
have money raised 10 have him confirmed by the
Board OF Aldermen lie said he had the money
then he showed me what a doodle he had.
what bag of money he had 1t was tied up
in large bundles Of bills What ,.wvs, would
oh said Mr.. Boardman. who, save for this
hn
lawyers never have so much money as mat
Was It like this?7 asked Mr. WINS. holding
I'D big black bag full OF papers; -,
'"i n wasn't nearly SO large said Mr.. Mccain
Senator McNaughton continued TO examine;
Of The money o% h"I don't know ANYTHING about it
o.-You said that dozens OF men at me Holman ~,
House tod you that Grants campaign cost lot .,
money Can you name one Of the men A. conla
not Everybody in the ORGANIZATION was 'alane ao1
ttoaman uonse but whether they individually spoke
to me- or not, can't say. But it was general con
"oaWas it rumored the time Of that campaign
thai Mayor tirace's expenses were very he"Vy Al
o.whst amount of money Old you hear ear ,posSs s
about in that campaign Al "e'er "'"'' VIII"
Ma Mas Iv,ns-n the committee wants that. III put II
. .,at.ment ~ MAYOR Gracc's expenses III detail
oWhat did Won hear Of Grace's expenses A.
heard he WAS n very ya r1S @sH
that's all not knoTn IN p0l'' I,s '"o"s" '0
long e the ssys ps4son. the
being given Flossic except what YOU ner dd ~ no
o.-You never the money nor the oeeo' oi '"'
"oS W.. Ivlns-When Mr. Croker bought his honse a.
You know much lie paid cash. An b small s"
O-Wasn't IL only about ~ 900. inc rcnaihuc
,,,o, mon a mortgage? Al heard So
O-Dont you know that ne house . hds tS Sr1'o
very largely paid for, or entirely pa'o i'r
senator Fassett-How many Aldermen would ~ nav.
toLen IN confirm Mayor Grant Al dont kuQw
o. two.thirds vote Al don't know anythm'
aD9 Cr.LThen YOU don't know If two-thiids OF ~
posra vas eighteen members AID that ~ 7oVo
would give them 10000 apiece A.-No' WIN
t,oier only mentioned the gross sum. 49,, A.,
ODD you know how Mr. Grant came 10 take n an
.nxx;ra.ion for sheriff Al knew he was q per
sonai friend Of Mr. Croker; A.. ,sount 81. Win
SenafoS NcNaughton-Befors tho MOUNT Oh VIZ