Wheeling register. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1878-1935, 1890-02-13
AN |NBORN LIAR
From Whom Foraker Got His
Information.
50 GEN. GROSVENOR SAYS.
The Investigation Of the Ballot Box Frauds
Continues.
CROSS-EXAMIEATIOE BY FORAKER.
The General Don't Like the InSinuating Way
the Questions are Put-The lnveStiga-
ting Committee Discharges All
Witnesses, and AdjOurns.

witness stated that on behalf of the board
OF elections of Dayton. he had gone, be-
fore the election to Cincinnati TO procure
ballot boxes. He had not been able to
sse Wood, but had no confidence in Mr..
Campbell. Witness did not order the
boxes.
Chas. c. Pricer, of Cincinnati, stated
that he was the person who at Mr. For
aker's req1est had given 5000 10 Mr..
Wood on October 8, 1889 H9 had seen
Mr.. Hadden the same day and that gen
tlemsn had told him that be lad
SEEN THE PAPER
(the forged document This was some
days before the re.raction.
At the request of Gov. Foraker, Gen.
Grosvener was sworn. Gov. Foraker asked
the witness if he had any objection 10 the
publication of letter written by himself,
from which Mr.. Halstesd read extracts
while oa the stand. Gen. Grosvener re-
piled thai he had no objection TO allowing
the letter TO be printed in full, and pro-
ceeded to read it The letter stated that
Gen Grosyener (;he writer had made up
his mind at the beginning OF the campaign
to contribute more votes 10 Foraker than
any other man, and that no man was more
aDxiOos to help Foraker than himself.
From here on, the letter says, 81 shall
make it more agreeable for Foraker, aud
more dissgreeable for the crowd that sur
rounds Campbell"
The letter stated that if MI Campbell
had net introduced the bill very distin-
Ruished Ohio Republican would have IL
troduced il. A pOstscripS appended to the
letter stated tina, Mr Jennings, editor OF
the Alhens, Olio. Messenger, had
TOLD THE WRITER
that Campbell had S. OOOin the ballot box
scheme. If this is So" said Gen. Gros-
venor, "the scheme is corrupt one"
Gov. Foraker asked Gen. GrOvener
whom be meant by a yeiy distinguished
Republican, and the witness caused a
laugh by saying That's me-" He had
sivee himself the title just as Nc. Haltesd
called himself IAN able editor"
Governor Forakey-There never was any
kind of al allusion made in Ohio TO the
ballot box matter until made my Music
Hall speech, the night Of the 2S.h, was
there?
G neral Grosve1Or-I never heard of 1t
until then. Witness thought ii probable
tbat he had written the letter produced
before Governor Foraker's speech, bat had
not mailed it until subsequently, and he
had probably written the postscript the
Monday folio wing the Music Hall speech
IRE closing words OF the spec, h, warning
Campbell that
THERE WAS MORE MATERIAL,
Jennings told him had reference to Camp
btll beiug interested il the ballot-bOx bill
Witness bad understood long before that
Campbell had something to do with the
ballot box matter, and was surprised that
It had no; cropped out a good while be-
fore it did. Gov. Foraker closely exam
ined the witness upon the expressions con-
tanned in the letters written by him, and
Gen. Grosveuor said that in tie hurry Of
his correspondence be had made come insd
vertent statements which might have been
better expressed. He had no recollection
Of speaking to anybody sbOut the ballot
box after Campbell came TO Washington.
Foraker-DO you remember getting dis
patch in October reading like this: Trust
in me, Charlie, and will stand by you. T"
Gen. GrOsvenor-FfOm whom?
Gov. Foraker-Never mind who from.
Gen. GrosyenOr No, sir; have no rec
election Of anything If the scrt. 1t is
1ot fair way to treat q witness either. If
you have aBv Information you should say
who from. think you got your infOrms-
ton from somo constitutional liar.
Gov. Foraker-I have got most of my
information from you.
Ia reply to Representative Turner, Gen.
GrosvenOr said that he had told Jennings
that he would
BET A HUNDRED DOLLARS
Campbell had no corrupt interest in tie
ballot box. Jennings then said that For
sker had positive proof that Campbell WAS
interested and il was on that stat 'ment he
appended his postscript Charles l. kurtz.
secretary to Gov. Foraker, testified that
September 30.h, the morning. after the
Music Hall speech, he had conversa-
tion of surprising nature with
Oolontl A. c. Sands, Of Cincinnati,
in the Governors office. He could not tell
the exact words but could give the SUBJ
stance of it. There were probably twelve
or fifteen people seated around the outer
room, one of whom was Sands, who
Jumped up quickly and seemed anxious to
spesk to him. He said that he had read
the speech snd that 1t was cracker. lie
talked in way that impressed witness
with bslief that he knew fully OF all that
wss back of the bill. He said in substance
that
THERE WAS A CONTRACT
back of that bill that he himself bad been
called TO Washington, having been sent
here to certain Congressman IN behalf OF
the bill. Sands told him that Campbsll
Othe present Governor had twice gone 10
see the President about the bill. Witness
asked him for what. Col. Sands replied
that it was to get the President to help
him. WitEe 8 said: "This is remarkable,
and asked Sands if Campbell wanted to
se. the President to sign the bill. Sands
said. No, no: they we're not worried
about that. Thay had not got tnat far
along, and the effect on the President and
certain Democratic leaders wal to abandon
the discussion of the tariff bill long enough
10 secure consideration for tie ballot box
bill. Then Sands went on 10 say in an
swer 10 witness questions that leading
men ia Congress we're interested in the bill
and had signed the contract. Leading
politicians and Co1grtssmen from Ohio,
he said, had signed the contract, and we-i
on to
EXPBFss HIS OPINION
about what would follow if this thing
came out. Sands saii that Republicans
at the top round of the ladder were inter
ested in this bill and this contract. Sand;
sddsd with emphasis: ''Y,s, mp at tbt
top round of the ladder in Ohio politics. y
Congressman Mason asked number o.
questions about Mr.. Sands business, final