Omaha daily bee., 1890-06-08

Al could not see anything wrong in that,
Odd you accept the propositions Al
did, most assuredly.
Q.-That you consider rs straight busi-
ness transactioni A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-Nothing immoral on the part Of Gal
lagher or your part in accepting It'll Al
think not; no. sir.
Q.-Now you went down to the Howe
lumber company TO meet couple OF gentle
menl Ayes, sir.
Q.-why were you to meeti A.-Shriver
and O'Connor.
Q.-For what purposel A-The Howell
lumber company owns some property down
here, / think at Eighth street, and / believe
that they sued the city, the street was open
there and believe they sued the city, and
there was some proposition made to settle,
and / wanted to look ut 1t and sec what it
was.
Q.-With the Howell lumber companyl A.
Yes, sir.
Q.--For the purpose of adjusting mattersl
A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-Nothing improper about thatl Al
don't see that there was do
81 am simply asking you. A.-No, sir,
l thipk not.
Q.-And you were asked to go there for no
improper purpose A. No, sir.
Q.-It was perfectly legitimate transac-
| tionf A.-llwOuldj not make the report unless
| knew something about it,.
Q.-Therc was nothing improper in their
| not being therei Alt was IA little diSap-
| pointment to me that was all.
Q.-Nothing immoral about 1t if they had
! another engagement. A. No think not.
Q.-You speak about combine of twelve
| members of the council, can you repeat that
| againi A-Counclmen at Large F.. l.. Blu
mer, F. ID. Cooper, John McLearie, Il. r.
Morearty, Theodore Olsen, f enry OsthofT,
and Ward Councilmen ID. H. Wheeler, Ed
ward O'Connor, w. c. Shriver, Clarence L.
Chatfe, Edgar p. Davis That believe was
what they called the combine.
bn
lieve l saw it first in THE BEE; then it was
! common talk on the street.
Q-After you saw it in THE. BEE, everybody
talked about iti A.-Yes, sir.
Q,-ThE BEE is pretty widely circulated
,Q.-Is regarded as the biggest paper in the
statel Ayes, sir.
Q.-Is a paper of wide circulation in the
state' A.-Yes, sir; and outside of it, L
GA paper of very wide circulation
read by everybody nearly in the city-eyery-
body that can read2 Al believe tits
Q.-You never heard of this until it came
| out in TIE BEEF Al don't know whether
| did or not would not be positive.
A.-Wlll you think! Al cannot.
| Q.-YOu would not think you had any i'm
| preston of it until THE BEE published it,
Al could not say exactly; might and
| might not.
Q..-You do not recollect thatl A.-No sir.
Q.-You do recollect The BEE publishing
it distinctly, thought A-Yes, sir.
Q.-What did you understand from the
| language of TIE BEE as published as to what
the combine meant relative to those individ-
uals' A.--That they had the organization of
| the council
Q.-Well, was there anything which you
| regarded as of doubtful character or immoral
III that combine: A.-No sir; | don't sup
| pose there was in regard to the organization
of the council; but if they took money it was
rather wrong b."
Q.-Was there any effort made to form a
| combine of the other Sidci A.-YeS, sir
.Q-And you were in that effort. A.-Yes,
| sir
Q.-As opposed to the combination already
! formed of those twelves Al don't think
| that Mr.. Chaffee was mentioned; / think it
| was Mr.. Davis.
| Q.-That was a sort of a political combina-
ion, was it notl A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-It was a political combination? A
Certainly, it was; we waited on Mayor Cush-
| ing and tried to get him to
Q.-Your combination' Ayes, sir: we
were trying to get the democrats and enough
republicans to elect a president of the coun-
Gil. Gushing appointed a time to meet US and
we went to his Office and he said that the
| others would not come into the ring, that is
| Ostoff, O'ConnOr and Madsen. Then he
agreed to meet us at his Office between and
o'clock and when we went to his office it was
locked up. Mr.. Lowry went over to my sons
place on Thirteenth and Douglas and tele-
phoned Gushing to his house and he said he
was unable to get those men together and
that they would not vote for Bechcl anyway
or for Lowry.
Q.-That was combination that YOU were
interested in, was it not' A--Yes, sir.
| Q.-Secret combination? A.-All the Sc
crets were what am telling
| Q.-Was it in fact to be considered secret2
| A.-When Gushing would not do anything
when he would not assist us, we went over to
room 30 think in the Millard hotel | say
we-Lowry, Ford, Donnelly, Bechel, Sander
and kaspar. Mr.. Bechel got "a piece of paper
reading that eve, the undersigned pledge
our word and honor to support w. h. Bechel
for president of the city counciln
Q.-And you all signed that! Ayes,
sir.
Q.-And got up some sort of a combine?
A.-As far as the president of the council.
Q.-That combination was composed of
part republicans and part democrats4 A
Three republicans and three democrats.
Q.-And this other combine was composed
OF part republicans and part democratsl A.
Yes, sir.
Q.-This combination of twelve was to or
ganize the city council? A.--As far as /
Q-Notbing irregular about that9 A
No, sir. have never said ihere was that
know Of
Q.-There was money, you say paid to
some of its members! Al did not say
any such thing
Q.-What about O'Connor getting 81 800?
Al did not say it was paid; said it was
rumored.
Q.-Then you don't know whether it was
paid or notI Al said so; the testimony is
such
Q.-You don't wish to be understood as
saying that the money was actually paidi A.
I know nothing of it; it is mystery to
me.
Oft is all mystery1 A-Yes, sir.
Q.-Who did you hear say that O'Connor
received 81 ,SOo' Al could not say; mum
ber did.
Q.-Can you name one persoul A.-Well,
sir, don't want to name the party.
@. You refuse to name the party' Aldo,
sir.
Q.-Does helive here in Omahal A.-Yes,
sir.
GA memberof anynewspapera A-No,
sir.
Q.-Lawyerl A--No, sir
Q,-Merchantl A.-No, sir
Q.-Any businessi Ayes, sir
Q.-What is the business! Aft 1 were
to give you that might as well give you his
name.
Q..,.Give us both, Al will refuse to give
you his name.
Q.-Why do you refuse TO give his name!
A.-Because it would injure him in his bust