The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-09-23


Rep. Navahi protested.
Noble Burchardt said the committee
ought TO have an opportunity TO reply tC
the statements Of NIr Shurston. Ii no;
the matter might rs well be voted on al
once.
Rep. Nawahi still protested. The
communication in the ADVERTISER was
not before the House.
The Chairman ruled that the commu-
nicaticn was not before the House.
Noble Burchardt moved consideration
OF Ny. ThurSton's communication.
Noble Wal5ridge thought that the
House ought only TO consider manu-
script communication, and not an al
legged newspaper article.
Noble Widemanu thought there was
nothing in the ADVERTISER written by
that man Thurston that was worth con-
sidering. as he admitted that he had
spent S647 without authority OF law.
Let him thunder in the THUNDERER.
teach to see.
Noble Macfsrlane said Mr.. Thurston
had petitioned this House for an oppor-
tunity to report 10 the House. If he had
had any sense OF propriety he would not
have written in the paper, but would
have come before the Committee, as he
[ claimed he wished to. 1t was only Of q
( piece with everything the man did. The
Statements in Mr.. Thurston's reply were
absolutely untrue.
! Noble Burchardt withdrew his motion.
Noble J. NJ. Horner said he would re-
! new the motion, as the committee had
been scared out OF il.
! Noble Widemann said Noble Horner
was one of the blind men who would not
see. II they wanted the communication
before the House, let them have it, for
/ Gods sake.
Noble Phillips thought this very un-
usual. This letter was addressed to the
editor OF the ADVERTISER, not TO the
/ House. Why should the House con-
slider it.
Noble Baldwin regretted that the
statement had not been made to the
House. With that view ne had favored
| q weeks delay so that it might be pre-
sented TO the House. As it was, 1t was
hardly proper TO consider it.
Noble Walker said the committee had
no authority to act on matter or this
kind, and il would be entirely out OF or
der to take it into consideration.
Noble J. NJ. Horner said he had only
made the motion because Air. Burchardt
! had seemed TO lack little backbone
laughter.
Noble 'Burchardt said he had given
reasons for withdrawing the motion. 1t
would come better from Mr. Thurston's
friends.
Noble Widemann = Squirming and
suuirming and sQuirming, We don't know
what we want We would ike to defend
this gre&, man OF oars-but we don't
dare TO. This man has written bosh and
stuff to streT sand in the eyes OF the
fools. He can't take me in. His letter
has not a word OF letter to stand on be-
fore this House. I move the Finance
Committees report be adopted.
Noble Baldwin thought this very
strange motion. 1t conficted directly
with the course OF the House in consider
ing each part OF the report by itself.
Rep. kapaehaole moved TO adopt that
portion OF the report referring to the
Finance Department.
Rep. Brown asked if the committee
had received any communication ex-
planning a retainer paid to Nh. Hatch. 1t
was to test q point OF law which had never
been raised. If the committee had taken
the trouble to make any inquiries they
never would have made the structures
they have.
Noble Macfarlane read the letter
dated Sept. S, which there had been no
opportunity to read. He would state
that the committee came across this item
of so, and it struck them it was an i'm
proper charge, any letter from Mr.. G. B.
Wilson probably dictated by MIR. Thur
ston) to the contrary Notwithstanding.
1t is too well known that Fire Depart
ment elections are conducted in the in
terest OF the personal candidates, and the
candidates should have borne all the ex-
penses. ANY idea OF testing point of
law was nothing but an after thought.
The engineer, Mr.. c.. B. Wilson, was
favorite of the late Minister, and was al
lowed perquisites which were not legal.
Rep. Nawahi said the Attorney-Gen-
eral ought to have appeared for Norton
if he was only nominal defendant.
Outside counsel should not have been
employed. Nothing was said in the re-
port of the Finance Department to the
Minister about the matter.
Rep. Lucas said this idea OF settling
point OF law WAS 6UllIelN Oul vi TIC HutS-
ton. was a party to the affair Norton
ought to have paid his own fee. 1t would
never have been paid if Mr.. Thurston
had not been Minister of the Interior.
He had no more right to pay. it than l
have to 90 and take $50 out of the Inte-
rior Department. As to Mr. Townsend
that is all right. He has been paid extra
for night and other work which he was
not bound to do.
Rep. Brown said the representative
from the 4th ward and the Finance Com
mittee have shown lamentable igno-
rance OF the law, or they would not have
made the report they have. Section
gives the head of the department leave to
make disbursements out OF the approp-
ration with the consent of the Minister
of the Interior. Rep. Lucas does not
agree with the committee in regard to
Geo. Townsend. He believes, then, the
committee were wrong The communi-
cation is not from Dir. Wilson personally,
but from him as head of the Fire De-
partment. 1t is a communication from
the Fire Department TO the committee.
The Fire Department is not, as has been
stated, bureau of the Interior Depart
ment. 1t is controlled by its own by-