The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1890-05-04

every form Of productive industry, the absence
SaansI sSS oSs q pS SVorprOdnS.o SonN No. ihs
9, c1S 5y PstsrPf e "a
gsnISation as the, acme Of truest democracy.
The people would rule absolutely through
mem would not have to "S strpss RS'"g iSe
lifetime for simple maintePa nce.
ality Through the, economies Of association
men would be enabled to cultivate the nobler
Of hST SSs 0pr principles
even. for at the present rate OF the develop
mont Of association on q gigantic scale, the
distant between submitting as the hired la.
borers Of trusts or occurring the title and
trial association lie the most patent fact OF to-
| day, and the question comes simply on the
bs 9 that o 70 * the whole
end II. view. ], can say that thus far the only
said that there are no leaders. The National
lists lists certainly are not going to do what |
mot BY any means united on every point that
oar. movement Il should BE- understood
tRs rest Of the @ as Il S S W ITS%
different order OF beings. We have our
same az other people. In our Boston clubs are
Republicans. Democrats, MuRwumps, and Pro-
pe aa bun Ss d the
necessarily follow. This is not class move
ment We make no bids to wage earners for
port any policy such as pro66ition that at may
be favorite measure with any set of men.
although tho parent club In Boston Is a
natural headGuarters for information and sd-
vice. and acts as kind of clearing house
suggested from ali PARTS Of the country.
We have held alo9t from political action en-
attempt to influence Legislation. Still, in
scms Suartters the NatiionalIstf have begun
they choose to do that we cannot helm 1t. That
the movement has developed extraordinary
strength II California is due doubtless to the
lie are prepared e grasp SaRsyly at eIps
nave Sfia as %ssoc
able that the California Nationalist will
nominate state and municipal officers this fall.
and | am informed that there Is more than
sumo immediate control. l cannot Judge for
myself. as have not been there. but il ii
successful. shall go out there ind do what
can car TO h hell, them IN their campalgn. II they
priation OF the water supply by the city. Water
there Is even moro important matter than it
Of the very few towns where the supply is fur
nished by individual enterprise. OF course
gestion that the city assume that function i u 81
its life. for there are hundreds Of precedents In
tho country long established In favor Of it It
Reously manage its water supply It can do tho
came with its lighting. its street carrying traf-
there is no doubt that as soon as the National
Ps 5Gsy viii the h
pal government. establish S goy er mental
bakery and laundry; by which latter they aim
to settle the veXing chinese question. In con-
mn n MT hA1
tionalsm to be the only available solution OF
the race problem in the South.
legislative matters in only two measures The
first came when the town OF Danvers petltioned
the GsRsra Court last 9E he privilege Of
jumped in and gave the measure our most
the reappearance of the bill In this years ses-
sion. The other matter Is bin to promote
age below which children may not be employed
In factories during term time. and providing
for state aid to parents who are unable to get
on without the material assistance OF their
children. The last must come eventually, but
at present we have compromised and limited
In this form has p passed the House IS without
opposition. and we hope for success In the
Senate. but you can never tell what Legislators
may do at the last moment.
When 1t comes to seeking achange through
Congress. we shall ask first for the nationally
cation OF railroads, coal mines. the telegraph
and Telephone. and the express business. All
these would be so related to the Government
that the Executive could have control what
ever over the personnel OF the employees. They
could not be used as politi cal force for the
measure providing for the absorption Of these
industries would place the. employees In per-
mapent positlons.t to be held according to merit
with ell the pension features and the regnla-
the Nationalist programme"
-" Suppose such a measure were introduced.
mense changes In the governmental system
that II involves strike ont the saving clause
executive or political Interference and thus
make your first step forward u great barrier to
any other step in a similar direction. by
strengthening those now In power ?"
We'll" replied Mr.. Bsalny. II we are de-
ieated It certainly will be terrible defeat.
ed. but what We aim to do Is to avoid suggest
ing the naturalization OF any industry. until
sGsa.ors must obev The danger really 'h ss
in the possibility that the mass OF Natonalsts
may grow impatient and attempt to strike be:
fore the proper time: but even then We should
trust to tine good sense Of the people to perceive
that this ndustrial system. properly organized
the one now In vogue. You sec 1t would be
civil service reform extended to every
field field OF activity which ISlan has oI the public
civil service reform. while IN the right direc-
ton. is ALMOST too narrow 70 deserve serious
Curtis and others ike him should get warmed
up SO over the reform. cannot see enough Ia
their programme 10 yet excited about ii, There
rectly Involved IN Il; nothing that appeals
strongly 20 the peoples interest. The mistake
they make IL in he idea that II Is easier TO do
a little sob than n big one That Is all wrong
When the JOB T. big enough 10 interest every
body for or against II, II II oasier 10 work than
when some abs rAct o inclple which does not
ssnsiby affect people one way or the other Is
concerned,
Everything IL and has Osen working In
our direction The lntrT-SiRts Commerce law
] regard aB . very important sDtsrhg wedge.
IL II u ulanifsstatIon Of the tendency toward
GENERALIZATION. which ~ another form o. Bss0-
citation. You viii Obs.ry" thai since tho War
81 IndsDen JanCs there hus been a gradual nut
very not icsAbls dscaisnes In tho inILOrLanes
VI : ate GOveTnnSut yhf state bAs been lie
rfeAsng Ia dignity and power. u 81 y tire
msIdOun LlOS IN tbs TrsultS ~ The clyl war
hls tendency sill continue until you Will
nDally SOC The functions ~ state bOEsrDmsbt
lApAs into InDOeuOua desustuds, a. oh
Hhst s.blS name says. You haze Only ~ read
the uiloo ~ bills Introduces Of late lsAfs lDt0
C9ngfoss 10 bs Convinced ~ THE isndsP",
Bot doubtless. tho hHtlOballBt VII DsElD
nJeThtions sltb the M unl rlDAllkatl0p ~ VARIOUS
fnloOT oDtsrDilhuh fhsfs could b9 nothing
lisll aT fDf ths unhappy condition ~ Asg fnrk
Dolluss tnAn The ,pTOlppi Application II tnsss
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