The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-05-29

the independence of the country. To-
day he is trying TO lay it to the McKin-
lev bill. This shows duplicity. The
honorable member think is the author
of the reply. He wants to bind the
House to any construction of which any
member sees fit to put upon it. There
is. I believe, no member here who does
not wish to forward the Independence OF
the country. I am one of them. If the
majority Of the House wish to dispose OF
the sovereignty of the country, so be 1t;
l do not believe they would have one
vote of the forty-eight elected members
of this House, nor of the Ministers
either. If anything of this kind is to be
inserted in the reply, it ought to be
specified precisely what is meant.
Rep. Richard said the confidence OF
the people is placed in us-they, have
delegated to US, out OF thousands, the
duty of transacting the business OF the
country. (The speaker read extract from
the speech from the throne referring to
the prosperity of the country. The facts
referred to in the speech are facts and do
not warrant such q reply as the COM
mittee's draft proposed. The country
has undoubtedly been exceedingly pros
porous. There is no danger of any inter
| ference in our affairs on the part of any
| foreign power. We are always liable to
natural disasters, such as hurricanes,
droughts, etc., but not from any foreign
power. Our strength lies in our weak
ness. The reply speaks OF q check from
a cause beyond our control. The House
ia competent to protect the interests ut
the country, and We have nothing to fear
from without.
Noble Macfarlane said great deal of
valuable time had been wasted on the
question which might have been dis
posed of in ten minutes, had it been ap-
preached in proper spirit. There has
been no excuse for any such display of
party feeling. He admitted the clause
objected to was somewhat obscure, but
the committee did not intend to conceal
any hidden meaning under it. think
no fair. minded man will find the Kings
speech is an expression of the policy Of
the Government, and the House has 3
right to criticise it in its reply, and l
think the House should not lose sight of
this prerogative. desire to suggest an
amendment, with the permission of the
member from Koolaupoko, to stop de-
bate and remove all possibility Of mis-
apprehension on the part of the commu.
nifty at large. We do not propose to re-
ceive any ministerial amendments. II
we want any amendments we can make
them ourselves. For the first clause in
dispute 1 propose the following: We
: recognise that fair degree of prosperity
has been enjoyed in your kingdom dur
, ing the past biennial period, and hope
that the policy of Your Majesty's Gov
ance of that prosperity without affecting
l tho indon0nAonno r,f <s0,, nf ~ ~ n
place of the second clause criticized
s. Therefore, we will carefully consider
the wisdom of pledging the Government
credit to such a work"
Rep. Knudsen said, I am one of the
committee appointed to draft the reply.
, Several amendments have been pro.
posed. Speaker reads the Minister Of
the Interiors amendment). That reads
, very fair, too fair / think. / saw and
,, continue to see nothing wrong in the re.
ply. Our prosperity is fair. I do not
think it is great. Prosperity in our line
is not prosperity in all. There has been
great general prosperity in the sugar in.
terest. In my district there has been
great prosperity in sugar industry. In
other industries no great prosperity. The
strength of the country is in the small
farmer. Now there are mortgage sales
of small properties every week. We
!. . should say to His Majesty what is true
, not what is smooth and pleasant. Nov
:. the reply is true. There is fair degree
of prosperity, but no great prosperity al
:, the continual mortgage sales prove.
, am therefore in favor of the reply as i
stands. would not say that the pledg
: ing the Government credit is unwise
but question its wisdom. move tina
Il NSc< Il Al
= adoption of the reply as it stands.
Noble HOrner seconded Noble Macfar
, lanes amendment.
Noble Cornwell wished to explain hi
= vote before voting. The draft was push
ed on me. had no time for examina
:, ton. After examination of it, am con
. scientiously in favor of amendment an,
shall vote for it.
! Minister Thurston said that Nobl
y Macfarlane agrees perfectly with him il
i regarding this as q nOn-partizan Ques
- ton. The other side has made It q PAL
tizan question. The honorable Nobl
has adopted the meat of my amend
: ments. am Indifferent to the form.
therefore second them and hope the
will pass. AS to receiving Minister
: amendments unfortunately It does NO
7 depend on him, as the right Of the Mir
= = listers to sit and vote and act in thi
- House does not depend on him but
q guaranteed by the constitution.
- Rep. Brown moved that the commit
tee rise and recommend the House t
adopt the report as amended BY Nobl
= Macfarlane. Calls of question:.
= Rep. Kapaehaole said, am glad {
r. see that the honorable members VIII
= were Yesterday in favor of adopting th
- report have come over to our side, and
" welcome them.
= The motion of Rep. Brown was pu
2 and carried.
= (Chairman-Raise your right hanG
= Noble Baldwin-Can'td do it,.
= The committee rose and reported th
motion Of Rep. Brown. The report wa
= unanimously adopted.
= Rep. Brown moved that the reply b
= now engrossed and that committee b
II appointed to take it to His Majesty.
a Rep. Kalua moved that the report
. laid on the table until engrossed. Thel
= was no harm, His Majesty had seen tn
- draft in the papers.
= Rep. Brown called the attention ,
= Rep. Kalua to Rule 80, which covers hi
\; objection.
: Rep. Kalua said it was not for Re,
- Brown to refer him to the rules. His MI
4 ton was in order.
- Minister Thuruton eo;d <h~ ,,nox:~.. 4