The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-10-30

Ut III llef place y uulluEeU liiOuSaDu /
onsumers for bananas luxury that
My few would enyy-meant nothing.
the San Diego community took
punches year, it would be as
much as ever. There was nothing in /
he paper to prove that the San Diego /
,eopie took the slightest interest in the /
natter, nothing but the bare statement |
hat they would duplicate the assistance |
rom this Government.
Noble Muller was opposed to the |
He moved that the item
read: Subsidy to Oceanic line to San
Francisco, $4,000; and subsidy TO Oce-
anic line 10 Tahiti, $4,000. The San
Francisco steamers were a necessity.
The hon. noble from Hamakua had said
that the Oceanic steamer on last up trip
made Sl5, 900. Was that net or gross re-
ceipts? He doubted if the hon. noble
knew which. Having been in the steam
ship business himself ten years, he could
say that it cost such a steamer as the
Australia $500 or 81, 900 a day for ex-
penses. He did not believe that the
Santa Fe Railway had anything to do
with the steamer line.
Rep Richard wanted to discuss the
feasibility OF cutting down the item. He
fully realized the benefits derived by the
country from the Oceanic steamers, in
our condition of being separated many
thousands OF miles from the rest OF the
civilized world. He should favor letting
this item stand as ii was for the benefit
OF the Oceanic company, and making
separate item for the benefit of any other
steamship company by way of paying for
carrying mails.
Noble Cornwell-I have listened with
great interest TO the remarks from the
hon. noble from Hawaii and the hon.
representative from Honolulu, but they
have failed in their remarks to convince
me that the item of SiS 900 should be
reduced or divided with other lines at
the discretion of the Cabinet We have
a line which has been established and
done good service to us; they have car
ried out the terms of their contract with
this Government; they have fitted up
their steamers at great expense for the
convenience of dealers in fruit, and do
not think we would be acting in good
faith If we should reduce the amount OF
this subsidy. We must not lose sight OF
tie fact that we are not only in steam
communication with San Francisco, but
this same line gives us communication
with Samoa. New Zealand and Sydney
and / can say from good authority,
should this subsidy be reduced the Aus.
tralian steamers will be withdrawn, for
this reason: That in stopping at Homo
lulu the through steamers lose from "A to
SO hours, and should this time be gained
at the other end, it means quite an item
| to the steamship company in having the
ErrIich ,oilc fIpoa onH | homo the
| hon. members will vote for the indefinite
postponement of this amendment.
Noble J. NJ. Horner wished to say g
few words more, if the President would
| kindly excuse Noble Muller.
Noble Muller-Thank you. | would
ask to be excused, as | can't stand more
(Retires, amid laughter.)
Noble Homer, continuing, held tina
the matter of the San Diego line coulC
be renewed as well as the Paradis,
OF the Pacific yesterday. The publ,
had for years been paying $75 for pas
sage by the Oceanic steamers, and would
continue to pay it unless opposition wa
encouraged The hon. member for Hill,
had told them that the freight on bana
mas had already been reduced, and if tn,
passage was also brought down it woul,
be Dig item for the public. Who sai'
there was any value in those papers
They were not compelled to pay an
money till the services were rendered
Let them do good to the people of tn
islands and adopt that amendment.
Noble Macfarlane said, on the first tw
occasions that this matter had come u
he gave what he considered good busi
ness reasons for opposing the subsidy
On the third occasion he voted to reviv
the discussion because he was given t
understand that information was forth
E coming to the effect that the propose
line had good backing. Had he bee
shown that the Atchison, Topeka an
Sante Fe Railway was backing the con
pany he should have voted for it, as
would then be assured that there woul
be legitimate competition, and pa
sages be reduced, which he though
were now high. Until they had assn
ances that the competition was substaI
tial, it would be bad policy to assi
: rivalry with company that had give
US good service-especially as ii
Oceanic Company was losing its Austr
liam subsidy-and it would take vel
little to make its through steamers lea,
. Honolulu out. He did not see the a.
vantage to the country in subsidizir
! I such a grapevine line as this one, rul
! ming to Hilo and Mahukona, and Hon
lulu. There was very little prospect
the United States Tonnage Bill becon
, ing law at the short session of Congre
i. IN December. Ii this company had Il
= Atchison line behind it, something mo
was required to prove it than the stat
, | ment in the circular. That the railwa
way company would advertise the islam,
:, was nothing more than any other cor
;, pany would do if furnished with Il
;, material. The Oceanic Company W
= doing it all the time. The Oceanic lii
: was running to the Colonies in the ia
. of the withdrawal of support by Il
- New South Wales Government, al
=, the through steamers were probab
y running at loss, SO that it would !
. quire all the profit on the intermedia
>, steamer to make up the shortage on t
:; others. Therefore he would consider
@ very injudicioIs to withdraw any of o
a support from the Oceanic Company
a this iuncture.
a Rep. White saw nothing but gas in t
d arguments against the amendment, wh
r. substantial reasons had been given
III It's pdSSdS6. w LIdl hOulI Uc SdNeu
% sugar freights would be large item.
If had a piece of land On Maui that wou
n produce 400 punches of bananas, /
r there was nothing in growings the
ic after sending them TO Honolulu and pa
10 ing IS cents freight TO San tranclsC
,e With the new line there would be pre-
rs for himself and other small landhoIdt
in bananas, as they could ship them
le San Francisco at fifty cents a bunch. 7
er new line had already reduced the pr
he of hay and feed. He could not und
lie stand the opposition OF Honolulu me
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