The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-08-21
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Respectfully submitted,
G. J. MCCARTHY,
e. o. BERGER,
SAMUEL PARKER,
Jos. NAwAHI,
a. Rosa.
The report was land on the table to be
considered with the Appropriation Bill
Rep. Kalua read an Act to continue
the subsidy to the steamship line be-
tween Honolulu and San Francisco.
Under suspension OF the rules the bill
was read a second time by title
Rep. Kalua moved that the bill pass
to engrossment. 1t is almost word for
word like the present law.
Minister Brown did not like to see
bills appropriating large sums OF money
rushed through the House in this way
| move this bill be referred TO the Com
mttee on Finance.
Noble Baldwin thought this was a
simple bill which was favored by every
one, and he would move it pass to en-
grossment.
Noble j. NJ Horner-Although am
in favor of public improvement, | do not
believe in going too fast. The motion
made by the Minister suits me. When
this subsidy was granted some years ago
it was limited or argued that the business
would be profitable without any subsidy
and now we don't know but that is the
case. So lar as l know, this company
has not asked for any franchise for the
future. Ii the United States passes its
subsidy bills ours will not be needed,
and move it lay over till the later part
of the session.
Noble Burchardt called attention to
the fact that the present arrangements
are far from perfect or convenient, and
he would like to know what arrange
ments the Oceanic Steamship Co. pro-
posed to make
Noble Phillips thought it well to call
the attention of the House to the
fact that this bill calls not for $4S 900 as
was passed in the Appropriation Bill but
for $72, 900 for the biennial period.
Rep. Kalua said the hon. member
misunderstood the bill.
Noble Phillips said the House did not
know what the bill did mean. There
was no need of the bill anyway.
Noble Isenberg-As one of the COM
mittee to which the item was referred
said that the committee had recon-
mended that the item pass. He did not
understand why the bin was rushed in
so fast. [ would therefore move the bill
be referred to the Cabinet. Let them
suit it to the condition of the subsidy.
Rep. Brown favored reference to the
Finance Committee. The statement OF
Noble Phillips is perfectly correct |
had to 90 to the table to see what the
bill was. 1t appropriates $4,000. We
don't want to give that when We are get
ting the service now for $4,000 We
should be very careful before we pass
this bill to engrossment. We have two
other steamship lines asking for subsi-
dies. We must look into these things
carefully before we do anything. !
would vote to give the Oceanic Steam
ship Co. the preference over any other
We know what the company is. Many
of the stockholders have large interests
here.
Noble Widemann-I am afraid that
Noble Phillips and the last speaker are
mistaken. The bill is the same as the
last law, but l see no reason in rushing
the bill through and favor reference to q
committee.
Minister Brown-It isn't as if any
hardship would be caused if this bill
does not pass. The company are draw
ing their subsidy every month.
Noble Baldwin, have no objection
to it's going to a committee. The bill
simply continues the old law. 1t places
two steamers as the upward limit, but
we are not bound to pay for more than
one, as at present.
Rep. Kapaehaole favored reference to
a select committee because the Finance
Committee was overburdened with work
now.
Rep. Bush favored passing the bill
now. 1t had been passed upon session
after session. The law enabled the
Ministry to pay for two round trips if it
wanted to. Even after the Act was passed
they could still require the Oceanic
Steamship Co. to make certain arrange
ments.
Rep. Kalua said the bill was the same
as had been passed during successive
sessions as the members will see by
turning back to the session laws. The
company cannot get any more than we
appropriate. If We only appropriate
$4S 900 that is all they can get. Anyone
who thinks otherwise must be out of his
senses. | think we ought to pass the
bill without wasting any more time.
Rep. Brown-This bill is precise
copy of the law of 1886, and the House
then appropriated $4,000 and it was
all drawn. If this law is passed and the
steamship company put on another
steamer, if we only appropriate $4,000
the company will have valid claim for
$24, ZOO more am not against grant.
ing the subsidy but | don't want to see
the Government forced to pay $1,000,
when the Legislature only intends to
pay $43, 900. [ have a memorandum
here from this company which shows
that they have laid out about SAT 900 for
loading and unloading in this port.
What it amounts to is that this Govern
ment has paid for the loading and un-
loading and the money has gone mostly
to Hawaiians.
The bill was referred to select COM
mittee.
Noble Cornwell gave notice of an Act
to prohibit keeping and breeding of rab-
bits.
Noble J. NJ. Horner gave notice of a
bill providing that the expenses of the
Honolulu Fire Department be paid for
by the owners whose property is pro-
tected.
Rep. W. H. Cummings gave notice of
l. An Act to encourage cultivation of to-
bacco; 2. OF coffee; 3. OF manufacture
of taro flour; 4. OF ramie; 5. To encour-
age industry of fruit drying.
Noble Pua read bill to establish a
separate magistrate for Kalawao and
Kalaupapa, Molokai
Rep. Kalua gave notice of an Act to
authorize national loan.
The President appointed the following
committee on Oceanic subsidy bill ::
Reps. Kapaehaole and Marques, Mobiles
Hind Baldwin and Marshen