The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-07-15

passed az $62, 000 The late Minister O
Foreign Affairs cut down the guard iron
81 to 81 men, and cut down the wall.
81 men were needed with the wall III
twice as many are needed with the wal
down. / think 65 men are not too much
We were presented lately with the spec
tacle at a reception of band outnumber
ing the standing army.
Rep. Rickard-If We are to provide fol
protection OF Palace grounds against evi
designing persons, we would need &
great many more men. The object is moi
to protect His Majesty, but to maintain
his dignity. | am in favor of maintain
ing a force sufficient to maintain the
dignity OF His Majesty's position and nc
more, and l hope the House will con.
slider it in the same light.
Noble Baldwin, notice the commit
tee have increased these items from
$93, 900 to Sl14,00 l submit this is not
in the line OF the economy to which both
parties are pledged. Only $35, 900 was
spent in the late period, and l do not
see why it should not be sufficient tor the
coming period. We are not going to
have any too much money for roads and
| improvements The idea has long since
been given up of making any show with
troops here.
Noble Crabbe-As the honorable Noble
has just said we have all come here to
economize We want, however, a pro-
per guard for the Kings palace, and l
think siXty-five men are not too much.
We want to show foreign representatives
that we can turn out few more men in
the army than in the band.
Noble Horner-Both parties are, by
their platforms, pledged to economy. In
that respect belong to both parties and
belonged to them before either came
into existence. l take the platform to
mean that expenditures which have
neither pleasure nor profit in them
should be Topped of. 1t is not economy
to ask for thousands which have neither
pleasure nor profit in them. If we pass
such items we shall not be carrying out
our promises rigidly. The Kings guard
has got along very well on $35, 900. They
have killed no one and nobody has killed
them. Shall We nearly double that? 1t
is the peace maintained in the commuu
ity which guards His Majesty, not these
troops. 1t is peace and civilization which
will protect His Majesty and that yard
out there, and all of US.
Noble McCarthy-I believe with Mobiles
Horner and Baldwin, that we must econ
omiZe, but if We are to have a guard we
must have good and sufficient one. We
give him less than half the full strength
of a company The committee have
considered this matter carefully 1t is
said that thirty-one men have been suffi-
cient. Have they? Some of them have
had 20 work double time.
Minister Brown-The item we are now
discussing was referred to the Military
committee and as it has presented
unanimous report, the Ministry are will
ing to adopt it. 1t was Reform House
and Reform Ministry which passed it at
$62, 900 last year l know very little
about military matters myself and never
had any ambition that way, but three of
these gentlemen have military titles and
they probably know what they are talk
ing about.
Noble Widemann-- The hon. Noble
Horner has said that the late govern
ment was government of economy. l
fatty deny that and L will give examples
They asked for $25, 900 for the Volcano
road, to complete road. | doubt, Mr.,
Chairman, whether this was economy.
| don't know how much is finished, but
there is in this appropriation bill an
item of $55 900 for that same road. 1t
will cost good deal to keep it in repair,
and 81 400 in interest (the money was
borrowed). What was this road built
for? They built bridge over the Waia-
lua river on Kauai. That was not needed
and an absolute waste. They built the
Punchbowl road That was another alb
this would be all very well. should be
willing to build road up to the top of
every hill in the country, but we are
poor.
Rep. Bush-I think the appropriation
is not too large if we are to have any
force at all. l should be willing to vote
for the entire abolition of the military of
the country if we were to have rigid
economy.
Rep. Robt. Wilcox-Am in favor of
the committee recommendation and
would have it much larger. The King
ought to have proper guard and it
ought to be properly clothed. l have
seen them dirty and without gloves.
There are companies OF sharp-shooters
on the other islands. On Maui min
lister is said to be one. do not believe
in that do not believe in preaching
the Gospel with Bible in one hand and
rifle in the other. have very little
faith in these associations here that the
country is at peace.
Noble Won Tempsky-I move the item
pass at $45, 600. Last year only $42, 900
was spent, and 1 think $45 900 will be
sufficient.
Rep. Nawahi-I was opposed to the
military expenditure until 1887, when
saw that an army was very necessary.
If we had had troops then we would
not have been living under this constitu-
ton now. l am in favor of the item as
by the committee
Noble kauhane-l do not think this
country needs large standing army.
We are not situated even like the small
States OF Europe. We are away off by
ourselves and have no neighbors Every
one is inclined to be friendly to US. l
am sorry this discussion has reused so
much feeling. Ii We are at peace with
each other His Majesty can have no
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