The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-07-03


but not least, we are pledged TO preserve |
the independence and autonomy OF the |
kingdom. This is OF course a compre- |
hensive policy. We may not be able to |
carry it all oct ourselves, but ii We have |
the assistance of this House we shall be
able to accomplish great deal.
Rep kauhi states he is much pleased
with the announcement OF policy, and
moves it be reduced to writing, signed by
the Cabinet and published. Ii their
memory is as poor as mine, they will not
remember what their policy is unless it
is written out. have forgotten already
| what it is, although | remember it
| sounded very we'll.
! Noble Horner-Mr President
Rep. Nawshi-l want to make some
| remarks.
/ Rep. Brown rise to point OF order.
Noble Homer has the floor.
The President so rules and motion is
put and carried.
Rep. Nawahi continued speaking, but
was finally suppressed by the President.
Noble Horner thereupon introduced
resolution calling on the Minister OF the
Interior to set the prisoners to work at
once on the roads and pledging the
House to pay for expenses incurred. My
motives yesterday, MIR. President, seem
to have been misunderstood. My only
object was to loose the hands of the Min
listers so that they could set the prisoners
to work without waiting for the Supreme
Court. If the Ministers can't do it, it is
for this House to find a way. My
measures may be foolish, but the fruit
on the top of the basket is fair sample
of the basket, and the fruit on the bot
tom may turn out the best. came down
here to counsel with my associates as
gentlemen to work for the good of the
people. l know that men are fallable
and respect the opinion OF my associ-
ates, and If they can answer my argu-
ments | yield / may be wrong, and my
} opponents may be, and it does not be-
come US to act as blackguards and abuse
! each other. There are two things which
exist and can't exist long side by side.
Those Ministers can't stay in their seats
and the prisoners in the prisons. One
/ must GO. l want to GUST the prisoners
and retain the Cabinet in ther seats. 1t
may be fortunate that my resolution
yesterday did not carry. My resolution
to-day, if it carries, will set them to work
l tomorrow morning
Noble Widemann-I would like to ask
r the Minister of the Interior whether
1 those prisoners live on air or get their
F. rations. (Minister Spencer They get
their ordinary support.) Who pays for
q it? minister Spencer The Govern.
r ment.) Does the Auditor-General ap
a prove the drafts? minister Spencer
: believe he does.) There have been none
s presented to him? minister Spencer
i think not.) That is all Your Excel
t lency The situation is very simple
n The Minister of the Interior has no more
e funds and the Auditor will not audit any
s drafts, so the Minister furnishes food or
d his own responsibility and the House
n will undoubtedly make the necessary
: appropriation. 1t is most extraordin
e airy idea that because there is no more
r appropriation the prisoners shall eat, bu
o shall not work. l cannot understand
" the motive of the late Minister in keep
If ing them in Jail. Fed, they must be.
o hope the present Minister OF the Interio
q will pluck up courage enough to sent
e them out to work in spite OF the Auditor
e General and Supreme Court, becaus
l. this House will support him. Nigh
add that the suit was brought by tn
1t Minister OF the Interior, and think tn
o present Minister might withdraw tn
r suit because there is nothing to SUI
): about.
d Minister Spencer recognize the fac
J. that this House is the highest power i
the land and if the House back me up
ID have the backbone to carry out its Wi
ct at all times.
~ Minister Peterson Somewhat of
lg misapprehension exists on this subject
The honorable Noble Widemann show
le by his remarks that he does not fully az
y prehend the situation. The prisoner
it are supported from the appropriation fe
r. the support of prisoners. That is M
10 ex iausted and it has nothing to do wit
the matter whether they work or no
a Some members seem to have an ide
as that the Ministers do not want to set til
e. prisoners to work, but it is not 80. w
would have been glad to set them
e. work on the first day. l admire tt
facility with which some persons owe
u ride the opinion of the Supreme Cour
es but it is as binding on this Cabinet as
be was in the last. Honorable Noble Horn
I'll stated that the Ministry did not wish
have their hands united. This is mi
re- take, and they proved that it is by n
on voting against the resolution yesterda
Noble Horner-They did not vote +
rts it, They did not vote against it. a
or in favor of this resolution and shall vo
for it with this amendment. | mo
nd that the words GAS law demands" II
IL. ferring to the law demanding that t
prisoners work. be stricken out. II
zee Supreme Court has said SO far that t
ro- law does not demand it.
it'll Noble Widemann-With great dc
IN of reluctance / must state that the Mi
lister of Finances report has stated til
of the appropriation for the support of pr
cts oners is exhausted / approve the de
re- sion of the Supreme Court and or
bile fear it will be upset, but can only 8
ill. that in spite of the Supreme Court
nd would have those prisoners out to VIC
ad. this afternoon. The law requires it a
!. no Supreme Court can wipe that O
,m- The matters before the Supreme Co
for are not the same as those here at sta
nd Calls of question:.
red Noble Horner-I accept the amer
ed; ment.
o The amended resolution is put q
ria carried.
President Walker reads an Invita-
to from the Fourth of July committee
lec- attend the ball at the Armory on
re- evening OF the Fourth.
Jar President Walker appoints the foll'
ing Select committee on the petition
has l.. Ahlo: Rep. Brown, Mobiles Is
hing berg and Pua, Rep. Kapaehaole
way Minister Spencer.
Rep. Nawahi presents the follow
dis resolution: Whereas, it is the unive
wish of the people that constitut
be should be established giving equal ril
'oad to all the people; resolved, that
able Cabinet be requested to state whei
that they intend to bring forward a new
ton stitution this session.
on Minister Brown says the Cabinet