New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-04-27
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evidence given by previous witnesses.
Then Mr.. WINS resumed his examination

| had differences with Mayor Grant, Ayes.
| Q-And you have had differences with Mr.. Croker
A.~Yes.
:. Qm7Growing out Of your occupancy Of the Mount
o-How long have you known Mayor Grant, a.
| Since about year or so before he first ran Tor
Q,-Do you recoect in the fall Of 1884. between
the date OF the election and the rst o. te r onowns
appointed by Mayor Edson.Mr squire H;rfss :,.
or @ nssr as ts
n, oMne at that time being MEMBER OK 'ne no''1
Q.-Who told you that he was a candidate A.-Mr.
| Odd you hear from any one the conditions
on which Mr. Grant became candidate for that ap'
pointmentl A.-Yes. o-..
believed that they could get Mr.. Grant appointed Com.
missioner of Public Works in case they could guarantee
o.-From whom did You hear itl AT the IIoi
man House. from dozens Of men. 1t was common
o.-who were those men, Prominent men in
o'mWas Mr. Croker one Of thcm' A.-Mr. Croker
told before the general public had it around town
ODD you ever know whether any effort was
made to secure guarantee Of such conformation;
XSer@e ay Sr at %ony from Sssrsay
Q,-Whom did you hear that front Al could
| not tell you the names II was general rumor.
Odd you ever hear that sum Of money had
been raised for use in the Board Of Aldermen to E,
| appointed by exMayor Edsonl
| Mr. McCann again was balky.' He turned
around to the committee and said I'd rather
not answer that question. This brings in family
matters again. / hear great many things
don't believe; does everybody. What hear
I care nothing for. / want TO see and know for
myself.
Il will prove by this witness that he knows
for himself said Mr.. WINS. Il will make my
question still more leading Did Mr.. Croker ever
60 10 your store, having with him sum Of
money and tell you that that the amount Of
money that had been raised for the purpose Of
securing sufficient votes in the Board Of Alder
men TO confirm the appointment Of Mr.. Grant?
That you will know from your own notice
IL don't like TO answer that question: said
Mr. McCann. Il don't know that shall be made
target of TO satisfy any organizations purpose.
| don't think it is right. ] was subpoenaed TO
come here in good faith but that I should re-
veal any secrets confded 10 me'-and Mr. McCann
shook his head the cnormity of the suggestion.
You not represented by your attorney at
law ~ asked Senator Fassett.
mo: but appeal to you," said Mr.. McCann
tearfully. :" If am compelled to answer WILL
If not I will not
We'll protect you in anything proper said
Senator Fassett.
d" If Mr. Croker anybody else comes to mo
and speaks in confidence resumed the witness,
L" it is in confidence,
Mr.. Fassett was persuasive and Mr. WINS was
persistent and finally MIR. McCann murmured an
answer to the question. 1t the word Yes"
Did you see the money!
Yes whispered the witness
This was in your own house?'
In my store"
Did you count the money!
NO
Did Mr.. Croker tell you how much it wasp
Yes"
"How much was it
zone hundred and eighty thousand dollars.s
said McCann.
This statement caused sensation in the
room. Several people, finding it impossible to
control their emotions, relieved their feelings
by whistlinq and Senator Fassett's gavel called
them TO order.
What form was the money ?" asked Senator
Fassett
He had il in a satchel'
How did Mr.. Croker come to tell you about
that at that time ?'
lie came to me to know if knew some people b
in the neighborhood whom he would like to meet.
LAS relating in any way TO this business
Yes"
Did Mr. Croker leave that money in your
store ~
NO Mr. McCann added that Mr.. Croker was
in the store for probably half an hour or there
abouts lie took the money away with him.
Did Mr.. Croker tell you who had raised this
money, and from whom it had been raised?' the
witness was asked
lie mentioned the name Of Moioney-Billy
Moloney, and somebody else
Did he tell you from whom Mr. Moloney
raised that money!
NO
Did he tell you it was raised by subscriptions
from Tammany lIall?'
lie sold il raised by the organization
Meaning Tammany IIall?'
/" suppose So
You so understood?'
1t was my inference at the time
Did he tell you that Mr. Grant had contrib
uted?7
Yes
"lIow much9'
Eighty thousand dollars
And that was for the Board Of which Mr.
Grant was himself MEMBER
YES
when did this conversation occur?'
Somewhere about December, 1884, or the
first of January, lss5.'
Mr. McCann said that he never heard from Mr.
Croker or any one else whether the fund was
distributed TO the subscribers. lie never heard
ANYTHING of it after Mr. Croker took it away from
first campaign for the Mayoralty had been very
exnensive one and losing business to him. The
witness told Senator Fassett and Senator Nc
Naughton that Mr. Scannell and Police Justice
Welde had. among others, informed him Of tho
cxpensiveness of the campaign, and Mr.. Grans
and Mr. Croker had alsc SO informed him.
If Senator McNaushton wishes it.. said Mr:
WINS. Il can produce n cloud of witnesses 10
prove that that campaign was one OF the moss
extensive ever conducted for the Mayoralty In TINS
city ,,
Mr. Wins then took up another subject He
asked Mr. McCann if he had through the news
noncrs followed the testimony given before tho
aon,r,ittoe Mr.. McCann said that he had Mr.. WINS
remndcd the witness that be had asked Mr..
Grant when he was on the stand If he had di-
,.idcd his income as Sheriff with any one. Mr..