Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1890-01-31

silence. Carlisle suggested that the CO.
stiiution provided that hen the Presi ie
vetoed = measure. il should cot become
Ia 6 unless re- passed by Q vote of tw
thirds He understood thar g.ntlsma
con,ead that If l67 members ~ere presen
any part of that number voting, AMI Il
others remaining silent. might pass the bill
Did that gentle man hold that one ms
could pass bill over the Presidents veto
MckInley replied that be Was not discu
sing the question as TO what the Hou.
could do % bill sent back by the Pres
dent. That was constitutional provision
srlisle said that no bigger quorum
required than when any other measure vi
before the H.u.e.
Mckinley When gentlemen sit in the
seats aud refuse TO perform public dui
they are regulating a great public trus
| App ause sa republican side
McKiulsy Scores on Carlisle.
Continuing. Mckinley said, Carlisle q
SPEAKER repeatedly signed bills and resolu
doas that had never received Q constiiu
tlonal mi ,rity lie did it when tn publ
r. cord OF the House, announced by himself
showed less than = msj ,rity of the Hous
voted. Republicans are contending iha
members who Fat in seats should be couDtr
as present. because they were present
| applause. Democrats wanted the Dur
nal TO declare q lie. Republicans ~sute,
| The journal 10 declare the truth. Gap
plause Ii WAS about time to stop ihi
legal t;tion. Let members be honest rid
Zach other. Let them defeat q bill in
constitutional way, by debse, amendment
yea and nav vote, expressive Of their judg
ment. This controversy Was to determin,
neither the maj 'rity should govern or b,
subject to the tyranny of the minority
The position of gentlemen on the othei
.ide meant they would either ruin or rui,
hough they were in the minority R-pub
icans insisted that while they were in tn,
nsj ,rily the other side should do neither
Applause on the republican side
Crsp.-In the la guage of Blaine I deny
utterly your right to say am present.
Mckinley We are discussing whet eI
hat 10 right or wrong.
Crsp.-I place Blaine against the gen
tleman.
Mckinley w. settlei one question Al
great deal OF cost-that the minorit,
could not rule in this country (Applause
We inten TO settle this one in the bfoA
ght of public opinion in the presence OF
Ky millions OF people, whether the con
.tnu ional msj ,r't, this House shaft do h
u.i"e's of the House. tpplause
furn.r of GrorsIa, detIeh the right o.
n Speaker t. note hun as present aud
.otlng, thus declaring thar he was di, h mes
hd uBlatriouc. I he Speaker, wInou
uls, authority, or right according to com
non Ias. ha named these members as mr,
hJ Ia not doae iht ir duty. 10 real ht,
ane asa m.n della q l.nt in hi. du ,
uuhi oe q hold him up 10 tn. 'u',try
u.an .,t tt To b., trusted sIth power az.
csp,n.lbthiy lfte geit emsn on The
',her side desired hat 10 ie, lie btRged "
IL III to do IT III All Urd.ry ~Hy Aui IL
ne IN j rU ps,s RS lutipn T.
L usoie him fDr~< hs de il qnenc,
Un such resolution a. that he wont
Az lhr right 10 lie hard IL coul CIV
n rtssJu-. ia. lh- .a,e To ,hr cpun.n
,,d 20 ne l-'ur %, uid be made H. H.. ~, 90
n'4JjTA ~ - IIvr lntI the htrt- ="
a., pr, ,li,rg III er he power u put ,.a
Isna Un tim, aat at Ihr same tm- de, ,
in the glt u BE- h-ari in protest aStr.
It. Tnr ti,x 50 approp'iateiy laced .bIv
ne SPEAKER cnaiT was Itself drhasce OF
,fbltrary power (ippl4use Oh the demo
aratlc siit.) Every shere else on earth
and ana sea, 1t VAS the standard of p Ipu
ar freedom applause Should it b,
aid that here, of aii places. it was onl,
he despouc sway of sngle man whom
the ms jrIt, in power had placed in ih'
chair OF the House Of Representatives
(Appiause on the democratic side
rhe Ms 1rity Must Rule the Coun ry
Butterworth of Ohio said he did not thinI
hat any membrr under-estlmated the i'm
portsnce of having right to the detetmn
anon Of question .ubmit,ed to their con
sideration. The decision was not in tn
line of what the gentleman was pleased II
| describe as an almost unbroken prece tent
| Ii uass departure f ON practice, rate
AT least by the House for possibly half
| century, which Eas, in IA measure, sancti
fed by Antiquity. If an iquity could sanc,f
hat in Itself wrong. This question va
As TO he power Of The msjority TO rule hi
country. The members must determin
day Whether the constitution contained 4
itself the elements of suicide This wa
he govvrnme MT of The people. 1t VAS ex
| pr. ssed in another way BY the governmei
| IF the m rrty The mi ,rity must .Ier
cise that anthor 'y in The Legislation an
government which was in keeping iih tn
furthersDce of the provisions of the con
s,itu,ion The repu ohc.n are not propos
ing to remove the ancient landmarks of ih
fathers but 10 show the fathers they neve
established those landmark.
| fhe Speaker never "a d intimsted or held
the House vas competent to passa bill ez
cept by constitutional majority. He ha
said bill, were often passed by receivin
one or two votes, but under we'll know
parliamentary usage the assent of all vs
assumed. Suppose the minority sh ,uld d.
c4de they would cot participate and refu-
to vote for the general appropriation bIl
What would be the eff, ct of their action
Under the constitutions, government coul
not use q penny. though the wheels O
government stood still in the presence 0
unex implied and uneqnaIled surp Us an
overtaxrd people. The gentlemen on tn
other side sat here in the 6,sh. bodily pre-
ent. The c. untry saw them, yet the countr
might starve to death by their insction /
that was not revolutionary you'd the gen
tie men point him TO q merho4 or instrumer
tsity that you'd put its dngers more def
n sely with d,a'h zip on the throat Of III
coun,r>2 The idea of member- not pa
Ii apsiirg when sitting in their chairs drav
ng siO or si2 a day (Lsughtrr n
>pezs hal hi-' ,rg-d the duty devolv-
upon him one he caut not avoid under h
oath Of office If he .ould.
A m.nb, on the Drmocrstic side sui
gestei that there ~ss no rule for xhat Ii
ks spublicans we're attempting 10 do
We have rule" 3u;terwprth retorte
.ard You have discovered it," (.hou,s
applause cn The R-puoliean side and "a
leri-s
The Speaker in,erposed, saying that q
plsuse on rha 4 ,or was not entirely .uitsh
and that app ause in the galleries ~as e
tireIy unsuit.bie aHd must be stoppeI.
An Excl, ng Time on Adj ,urumeu,
Bu;,eruor,h conceded ,ha, what m z
be called rad cal change in the proc-d
, of the House might veil be regarded vi
some Al Ii-ry, bot ~hy .hpold the nsinorii
he s.xed. b.. permitted TO sop, arbrrasit
? the y h. el- of lsgi.lsI' OF for an ind. FL
{ time: (sppIsu.~J He quoted Wharf
on Anserirau lar. to th- d.. that il
/ prppsr or iucnsi- i'i-rate / g.lstisn U
Z al-sy- b. controlled bJ in@ PrP.l'tep
+ Y.to and by q DECISION of the Super
( cou-,. ard went 90 TO say; II sm r
afraid of this ruling W.. have ao quiesc
Il in hi. p Try tyranny TO- log What .
: the rights of the minority! To be hea
!. on every question; 10 approve or oppe
e what is pr posed; 80 enter protest agaii
z II. by vice sad vote. In addition ID III
!. ,ii. minori'y insists that it hA. q. on
Il iuuousl r sh, TO sand in the way Of leg