The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-09-09

hearing. 1 Thought there WAS an IN
der>sandinS that both parties ShoGlS
work together for the common god.
Rep. h. W. WilcoN-I didn't agree 4
any such thing.
Rep. hsluS-I am not speaking as 5
friend of the petitioner, but in the inter
est ii fairness and justice. Some mem
hers regard this as an opportunity &
vent their spleen. Ny political views srs
very different from those OF the late
[ Ministry. but he hSS = constitutions
I right 20 be heard, and anyone who
moves 70 Law this petition on the table, 70
grStifv his Speea, Is nos doing right The
/ petitioner Is no longer $ Minister, he was
not kicked out, IS hiss been asserted, but
resigned. He has right 10 be heard.
There are members Of this House who
are not willing thSi he should be heard.
Suppose q Court Of Justice should act in
/ this wav Sn6 condemn man without
being heard. Il IS the part OF wisdom to
/ le fair l do not Sppe4r here IS an Sd-
/ vocSte Of Mr.. ThurSton. ! have known
I him from boyhood Up, but his views and
I mine are different, and for thSt reason
/ tried 70 set 5 seat in this House /
/ wish 10 nave every member q the
I House understand that ! SIN not de-
( tending the late Minister nor his acts,
/ but am simply speaking in the interest
Of fSir play.
Rep Kapaehzole said thSt the petit
toner had 4 perfect right 10 petition this
House for 3 hearing If he thinks he has
s grievance, and he must be heard.
| Now the question IS whether he really
has grievance. A great many charges
are made against him in this report,
which he SAYS Sre not correct. He ought
70 De heard. either through committee
or by making himself s written state
ment 70 be printed and submitted 10 the
House. II may De said that Su iuyesti-
CATION viii take great deal OF time, but
we ought not 70 grudge the time l
therefore favor the motion 70 consider
/ the petition with the report
Rep. r W. Wilcox said II YOU see four
o. I'VE men going along the street with
hats on znd YOU say. . There 20 some
I baliheaded man. I" one viii Immediately
take hat of. and he viii De sure TO be
the bzldneadsd men. think IN the LAST
Cabinet. the Minister Of the interior was
the baldhezded man.
Rep. Wilcox continuing was inter
rupted by Rep. k2luS, who moved 10
eo1fine his remarks TO the question De-
fore the House. For some time nothing
could be heard but the loud voices o. the
two speakers Snd the continuous rappIng
q the Presidents hammer When Or
der MSS restored, the Interpreter eN-
planned thSt Rep. Wilcox was making
references 70 the treatment OF Mr. Glib
son.
The President ruled this ont Of order.
Rep. Bush protesting and saying that
the Reform Party had not had the man
illness 10 give Mr.. Gibson fsir play.
Rep. Wilcox, continuing, said he ad-
mired people vino stick by their friends,
SIS Rep. kalua hSd by the late Minister.
He hOued he would receive decoration
for II. He would favor, 10 put an end to
the debate, Noble B1ldwin'S motion.
Noble Widemann had no objection to
considering the petition. What he OBJ
iactsd TO was the manner IN which it Was
written. II charges the committee with
MISREPRESENTATION. He wants, he says,
an impartial committee. What be wants
Is s partial committee 4 committee
which viii look st things through his
suectSeles. and cannot tell black from
white. I am airaId that there Is too
much in th4t report sor him to white
wash. There i too much, You know.
All that Is l4cking Is : request that ne
nav name the committee himself
have no particular objection 70 consider
ing the Petition. The PreSideIt-DO
you Withdraw your mOlou2l That Is
what I am coming 70. Yes, l with
draw IT,
Rep. Nawshi favored considering the
petition. He would ike to have the
[ Minister present, IS there were = good
many things ne would Ike explained.
Rep. kahook4nO admitted, OF course,
that the petitioner had right TO petition,
but he asked something which the House
could not possibly grant, viz, the ap-
poiutment Of another committee.
Noble Muller cited rule 3, defining
the duties Of the Finance Committee. Ii
saws nothing OF conferring with heads OF
DEPARTMENTS He hoped that the petit
toner would be heard. But he objected
to the request for another and ''impar-
tisl'f committee. This was 8 reflection
on the impartiality OF the Finance Com
mittee-
Noble NcC arthy-As member OF the
Finance Committee and on behalf OF the
committee said that nothing was contain
ed in the report which could not be proved
BY the books OF the departments. There
was 9 book called the Detail Book, which
shows every item. Il Is commonly said
that books should be keP% 50 that new
man can come and 90 right on without
needing any explanation. l am happy
to say that the books OF the Interior De-
pzrtnent were kept IN that way We
have simply stated bare facts am per
fectly willing to give the Minister hear
ing. but don't see what good 1t will do
l went into that committee and did my
duty faithfully and mpartially, and there
ara no statements II that report which
are not facts.
NOBLE Maefarlzle favored considerz-
ton OF the petition. All the facts stated
In that report could be proved. He could
Confederate what was said by Noble Nc
Czrthy as 70 the books OF the Interior
Department The examination had been
made impartizlly, with no intention to
misstzte anything The committee was