The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1890-09-27

Mobiles that there should be meas
ure of the kind, but he objected to
this bill rs being too simple. The
majority might choose to call any
transaction in q single Department,
such rs the appointment of an official
and executive act and force the
Minister TO carry out their orders.
The treaty was one that nc doubted
if the King could legally sign.
Where it stipulated that this coun-
try could not make treaty with
another country of its own volition,
it ceded away the independence of
the country and it was very ill-ad-
vised for the three Ministers to urge
it for His Majesty's signature. This
bill should go to a committee that
would doctor it up so that it would
be acceptable to the Judgment of
the House.
Rep. Hookano thought the title
did not agree with the bill. If the
rest of the judiciary committee did
not intend to present report the
House should go on with the bill.
Rep. Kanealii said if the bill had
been indefinitely postponed they
would not be discussing it now.
When there was irreconcilable dis
sension in the Cabinet they would
have to wait for session of the
Legislature.
Rep. White was not in favor Of
the bill. The chairman of committee
asked him to sign the report with
out having had n meeting. They
now saw three to one in the Cab
inet's voting in the House. Ii the
bill passed Mr.. Spencer would have
to go out, and then Mr.. Brown and
Mr.. Peterson would get their heads
together and put Mr.. Cummins out.
The newspapers had been finding
fault with the Ministry-first Mr..
Peterson was the bad egg, then it
was Mr.. Brown, and finally Mr..
Cummins. 1t was hard to say now
what Mr.. was sound. BY and by
there would be q difference when
the Ministers would stand two to
two. Then there would be dead
lock, with the very result that this
bill was intended to avoid, but this
bill would not met such case.
Rep. Waipuilani favored referring
the bill to committee.
Rep. Nawahi, as member of the
judiciary committee, did not agree
with the report, and thought a coun-
ter report would be ready not later
than Monday.
Noble Macfarlane thought it
would not be right to decide on the
bill without hearing from the rest of
the committee. There was too much
of this kind of committee work
one member preparing report and
handing it round for signature. He
did not care to rake up the treaty
fiasco, butt since the matter had
been introduced, he wished to ask
Mobiles Baldwin and Isenberg, if
there was no intention of protecto-
rate, why was that clause shown to
the King as an alternative clause?
Rep. Richard thought that SUBJ
| ject was not before the House.
Noble Macfarlane said the matter
had been brought before the House,
and he proposed to say what he had
to say on it.
Noble Baldwin said that he had
not said all he could on the subject,
having only referred to one point.
But if the hon. Noble wished to dis
cuss the matter further he was will
ing to follow.
| Noble Isenberg said he never saw
any protectorate clause.
Noble Macfarlane said that if the
provision giving the United States
supervision over the treaties of this
country with other countries was
not ceding the independence of the
kingdom he did not understand the
language. However, if the House
did not wish that subject discussed
now he would drop it.
Noble Widemann said that such
matter as that of the treaty might
not occur again in hundred years.
| 1t would be very hard to make the
bill suit every case that might arise.
The bill would be useful in prevent.
ing one Minister from standing out
against three. If they stood tic
they would simply have to drop the
matter in dispute altogether.
Rep. r. w. Wilcox was saying
that the Ministers had no sense Of
honor, they only wanted to fill Their
pockets. On being called to order
he explained that he did not refer
to the present Ministers.
Rep. Halstead, as a member Of
the judiciary committee, thought
the rest of them were sighted, but
believed that some bill of the kline
was necessary.
Rep. Rosa proposed an amend
ment to the title, with which hC
thought the bill should pass. liz
did not think that the majority of tn,
judiciary committee could remove
the defects of the bill.
Rep. II. w. WiIcox-Be quiet.
Rep. Rosa-Thank you; / saved
your life. In other countries having
similar institutions member dis
agreeing with his colleagues would
have to resign. 1t was necessary II
have some such provision in oul
written Law. With regard TO thu