The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-09-12

Noble Muller moved to amend by
making it take effect ninety days after
passage.
Noble Marsden moved it be six
months. Carried.
Noble j. NJ. Horner moved the bill be
indefinitely postponed. Lost 20 to Is.
The bill passed TO be read Tuesday.
The bill creating a special bureau for
education of Hawaiian youths abroad
was read by title and referred to the
Educational Committee.
Second reading of Bill No. lao, sub
sidy to the Oceanic Steamship Com
pany.
Rep. Brown said the House had al
ready appropriated $4,000 for the
Oceanic Steamship Company in the APP
preparation Bill, although the company
was not specially mentioned. Now this
bill appropriates 81 800 for each round
trip not to exceed two a month. Ii they
choose to make the two round trips, the
Government will be bound to pay them
S72 900. They can come in at the end
OF the biennial period and claim the
amount.
Noble Baldwin said the committee
report recommends that not more than
s4S, 900 be appropriated.
The report was read.
Minister Brown said there seemed to
be some Misrepresentation as to this bill
because it appropriates less than $4S, 900
Counting one round trip. They have
drawn hitherto the whole of the s4S, 900
| do not really see what the object OF the
bill is.
Rep. Brown offered an amendment
declaring that the bill shall create no
claim for more than 200. The bill
expires by limitation in two years.
Noble Marsden and others-No. the
bill is perpetual.
Rep. Brown-Then l move its indie
finite postponement.
Noble Baldwin favored the passage oil
the bill with the amendment. Ii the
Legislature ever thought the business OF
the country would allow it they could
grant the full $4,000. 1t was no more
than fair to grant $4,000 considering
what the company had done for the
banana trade. They lost two dollars q
ton on the bananas Comparing it with
what they would realize using the same
space for sugar.. If the subsidy was not
granted the company could put up the
freight on bananas.
Rep. Kapaehaole favored the bill.
Rep. Richard favored the motion to
indefinitely postpone. 1t could do nc
good. The money was already appro-
priated.
Noble J. NJ Horner thought the views
OF the last speaker we're business, gen.
uine business. What was the use OF
passing this law? He would like to ask
the lawyers that If the matter was let
alone, the Minister could use his discre-
ton as to whether to give it all to one
line or not.
Noble Widemann said the steamers
running from San Francisco to Homo
lulu were just as good, though not as
large as the Atlantic boats. Noble
j. M. Horner said he did not oppose
the subsidy. Yes, understand But
the Oceanic Steamship Company have
done us good service for seven years.
They ought to have the preference
They have built up the banana trade
The subsidy is all spent here in Homo.
lulu.
Rep. Brown said if the bill had been
printed, there would not have been sc
much confusion about it. The first sec.
ton might create permanent contract
and vested right in the company. He
would amend making the subsidy expire
in two years. He did not want it sup.
posed for a moment that he did no,
want to vote subsidy to the Oceanic
Steamship Company. On the contrary
he would rather give it to that company
than to anyone else. He would with.
draw the motion to indefinitely post
pone.
Noble Cornwell favored the bill. The
country was under great obligations tc
the Oceanic Steamship Company. He
would move that the bill pass as il
reads.
Noble Baldwin moved to amend by
adding that the company should have
no right to claim more than is appropri.
ated each biennial period. That would
prevent any possibility of mistake. The
House could appropriate $4,000 OF
$72 900 each session, as it chose. This
amendment would come at the end oil
section 3.
Noble Widemann did not see exactly
what the discussion was. He would move
deferring consideration until the bill
was printed.
Rep. Lucas moved the bill be printed
Noble Macfarlane said the bill was not
printed and the committee report was
| not translated into English. The House
ought to have all the light possible.
Rep. Kapaehaole saw no use in de-
lay. This bill was almost word fol
copy of the law of 1886, to which every
member could turn at once.
Noble Widemann said the hon. gen.
tleman had the advantage of the rest. II
was not easy to look at a thing you
hadn't got.
Rep. Rosa thought there was no occa
sion for any reference to the Printing
Committee. The only doubtful point
was disposed by Noble BaldwIn's amend
ment. He endorsed the remarks Of
Noble Widemann. A faithful servant
should not be discharged to make way
for new one.
Noble Burchardt was not sure that
Noble Baldwin's amendment would
cover the ground.
Rep. Browns amendments were
read.
Noble Burchardt said there was
nothing in the bill to prevent the com
pany from putting on two steamers for
eight months which would make $24, 0OC
and then one steamer for sixteen months
which would make $4,000. Tha,
would give us a worse service than al
present.
Rep. White moved the previous ques
ton. Carried.
There was some discussion as to what
the first motion was. 1t was found to
be the motion to print and that motion
was carried.
The House adjourned at Am