The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-07-29


be under him, and if the Government
would adopt this method, il would saw
his salary, but a competent man to d,
such work would command salary a
large as the minis ers' We all know
that the road supervisor repairs a piece
OF road, and month after the superin
tendent of water works. comes along anC
tears it all up to lay some new pipe
This is waste OF moneS. We may no
be able to arrive at that object this ses
sion, but it ought to be done.
Noble Crabbe-I am inl favor of the
item as in the bill, but not in favor o.
giving the money to the present incum'
bent
Rep. Rosa agree with the member
from Honolulu. The National Reform
Party are particularly pledged to the ap-
pointment of competent engineer. Ii
would relieve the Minister of the In
terror from a great deal of detail work.
The Minister of the Interior is often not
a skilled man in these matters. | would
suggest that the Government be CON-
PEELED to bring in bill, and | move to
defer these items until bill for Super
intendent of Public Works and Water
Works has been brought in, amalgamat-
ing these departments into one.
Minister Spencer move the item
pass as in the bill. think there will be
no difficulty in getting competent men
except perhaps for the deepening of the
harbor, and for that work special men
should be employed. We could not get
a civil engineer from abroad for less than
$4,000 or $1,000 year, and this Govern
ment cannot afford that. The deepening
of the harbor will require hydraulic
engineer who will cost 81 900 per month,
but only for about four months.
Noble Macfarlane- am in favor of
consolidating these bureaus. Hundreds
Of thousands OF dollars have been wasted
by incompetent men, and | agree with
the member from the first district. l
think for a little larger salary than that
in the bill, competent man could be
obtained.
Minister Brown thoroughly agree
with Noble Maciarlane and it would be
great relief to the Minister of the Inte-
rior, but | think 1t is too late in the ses-
sion to attempt such an elaborate
change now.
Noble Isenberg-I agree with Noble
Macfarlane and Rep. Brown. But the
time is too short now and work is needed
Immediately and for the work needed
Immediately men can be got here. In
the future | think it would be good to
have man to unite all these bureaus,
but at present 1 am in favor of the item
as it stands.
Rep. Lucas-We are now on the
salary of the Superintendent of Public
Works $1,000. There are plenty of men
right here in Honolulu who can fill the
bill. The present incumbent doesn't fill
the bill l have heard it said the pres
ent incumbent is only an amateur car
penter. l am not in favor of uniting |
these bureaus.
Noble Mccarthy think large sal
ary should be appropriated and COM
petent man be appointed. At the pres
ent time the present incumbent has
something to do with the streets and the |
water works with the result that he
orders work which the Superintendent |
OF Water Works and Road Supervisor
know nothing about. The present
salary is too small for good man. 1t |
is enough for deputy. believe a good |
man would save US hundred thousand |
dollars in the next two years.
Rep. Nawahi-How does the Noble
from Honolulu know that $4,000 or
100000 have been frittered away?
NOBLE McCarthy-There are numer-
GUS instances where he has built some
thing which has been washed away and
1t has been rebuilt at two or three times
its costs.
hep. Nawahi-The Superintendent of
Public Works is not responsible for
treshets. The greatest engineer cannot
build anything which will always resist
the elements. 1t simply amounts to
this. There are number of men in the
House who don't like that man who
rides around on a mule. say let him
ride his mule in peace. We haven't
time this session to consolidate these
bureaus. We are in the middle of the
session. 1t doesn't require civil en-
glneer to build roads. There are plenty
OF men here behind me who would make
pretty good road builders.
Rep. kalua-I am in favor of the item
as IN the bill. regret this tendency to
throw dlscredit on the present Superin-
tendent OF Public Works. l think he is
very competent engineer 1t is no dis
grace to man to ride mule. The
costly Waimea bridge which was washed
away by the first freshet was fixed by
the present incumbent and still stands.
Let us pass the item as it is in the bill.
Noble ]. NJ. Horner-This House rep
resents the people and the Ministers
do the work which we place in their
hands. 1t is the business of the Minis
ters to find a good man, not ours. AsI
understand it all these bureaus have a
head over them now and that is the Min
lister of the Interior. If we get man
from abroad and pay him $l2,OO he
would want to control everything and
where would the Ministers be. (Calls
OF question:.
Noble Macfarlane-If the Minister
thinks 1t not expedient to consolidate
these bureaus | shall defer to his iudg-
ment and vote for the item as in the bill.
The present Minister is practical man
which the late Minister was not, and if
ne thinks 81 900 sufficient favor it
Rep. Rickard moved the previous
question.
Noble Pua-A great deal has been said
about what has been done by the present
We see what he has
Homo outtiDO Jou-p n