New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-01-24

In Office But the corruption does not justify the
overthrow Of the present electoral system II WHAT
they say about elections Is true there are two metho
OF corruption. One is to pay men to stay away from
the polls. This bill does not prevent that kind Oh
corruption
Mr.. saxton-The Senator will pardon me, but have
a BILL an amendment Of the Pena Code, which pun
lshes tbs corruption.
Mr. Grady-Yes but you will not pass IT,
Mr. Saxton-Yes. WILL and let me INFORM 70"
that Governor Hill plgeonholed a bill OF senator
Fassctt's to punish bribery at the polls.
Mr. Grady-Then, again, you do not include gen.
era registration act in your BILL which Is the under
lying principle OF the secretballot SYSTEM But you
won't pass registration act
Senator Linson. Of Kingston, who followed, took
pains to disengage himself from the Bourbon Demo
cratic party not believing in any reforms. lie
said in part
don't want to be COMPOUNDED with the enemies Of Bal
lot Reform am sufficient Of pessmist to be almost
a Mugwump. Contrary to my brother Grady believe
that there is great political corruption and that
1t Is crying evil OF time 1t is well known now
Hill is opposed to an Official ballot, and we
know that he will this bill II 1t limits ballots 70
official ones. that you passing bill which you
know will be vetoed. year ago / prepared a Ballot
Reform bill, which / think would meet with executive
approval have heard in favor Of the exclusive ballot
that IL does away with assessments. Now with all Que
respect to Mr.. Saxton that is laughable You p'rmt
emen deprecatlng, as do the corruption at the polls
| must say the merit of tie Australian system is its
secrecy II the bribe-gyer doesn't the goods de-
vered he won't buy them. The average politician isn's
| buying pig In poke
Mr. Saxtoa-I Mr. Grady that the people OF New
York are back OF this measure and you might as well
try to shut out birds In the heavens from the fields
"a TO attemut to this sentiment from the law
Mr. Grady says there is little corruption On the con-
rary, there Is good deal III there is no corruption
| fora an act GOFcfnOr
I'M refer TO the fact in his late annual message Mr..
IJnson says that Hill Will not sign this bill.
believe that we away all valid objections of his By
our amendments believe that 1t is duty at least
10 present the bill him in Its present shape, and II
he does not sign IT, he will BIO more obstinate anu
stupid man than have thought him to e we nave no
right to assume that will this bill because OF one
affection. n &c is only objection that Is left, ana
that is the ballot Senator Grady says regis
traon is an essential feature Of the Australian system
IL So then Official ballot is the essential feature OF 1e
Australian system, and that he opposes There is no oao
except Connecticut which has ever adopted the Australian
law has adopted as the vital anu iuhcaeIai ie"'uo
| Of that system the official ballot
Senator Cantor-Dont think it essential that there
should be an inquiry as the right of to votel
Senator saxton-I don't wish be included in the ranks
NJ those who are opposed registration Perhaps the an
nro repistraton act OF and Brooklyn should be
extended the minor cities and to the country districts OF
this State it regarded as essential certainly sha
not oppoe It, But do think the registration should
seporate They will better chance OF becoming
laws separate But regard to the official ballot can
not make any concession. The leading public men VINO
have written 20 about my bill have especially eAhoeu
! me not to surrender the official ballot. IL Is es
| sont,l TO secret ballot 1t Will prevent as
sessments for printing ballots. Senator Grady draws
picture OF having his ballots prepared at nome p
| his wife and children. Senator Grady knows tha
| mon have their ballots prepared for then
by other persons than their wives and daughters
| why we have all read Of men coming to the polls
droves gangs and taking their ballots from POLITICIANS
[ cannot see the official allot does any man any,
| HARM | submit that the most stupid and the mos
terae voter vote as he likes under ems Dill IN ia
i uresent FORM No man. unless he Is IDIOT can fall
| find the column of his party friends
". NJ. WINS, of the Ballot Reform League said:
| l appreciate fully Senator Lnson's position IN Uni
matter 1t Is credabe to him, In view OF his strong
nartIsanship He believes that half loaf better tina
none. The friends OF this bill do not believe that nan
| a loaf will from starvation In my opinion "
| shall have a general registration act we ala nave
registration included In the hrst SAXON Hieooi'
| Reform bill but we took it out because Governor Ill
had vetoed general registration act and we felt we "oui
| nut the Saxton Lii in peril unnecessarily "
left in the registration section. Mr. Dunton, the orlg
nator Of the Australian ballot system testified before
Parliamentary Committee in 1876, that the essence
that system is the official ballot Senator Grady says tina
Governor Hin elected in 1883 because ne 'e'oeu III
Ballot Reform bill. Wen, let u" turn the argun'eh
AGAINST himself. Senator Grady was ANONYMOUSLY ue
,oaed last fall because he opposed TO ballot reform
That statement is untrue as his that Governor III
was elected in 1888 because OF his opposition to balo
reform We all krow that ballot reform was not II
question at either election But this can be sad namely
that Governor HIPS opposition ballet reform and othe
reforms put his it. such peril mat ne sacrce
Grover Cleveland Democratic candidate Tor PRESIDENT
In order to secure his own election
| Senator Cantor-1hat Is untrue.
| Mr. Iyins-It is a statement OF historic fact'
| Senator Cantor-It is a historic falsehoo1
| Mr. Ivins-I repeat that IL Is a historical iaee AM
nermit me to say that Hill Is out Of line VIII
nearly every other leading Democrat on this question
Among those who differ with him are Governor ALBEIT
OF NewJersey Governor Cempbe oil Ohio' ana OoNerho
| Wilson, OF West Virginia.
| Senator L.nson-rell me- Mr.. WINS, why you arc .
| earnest for official BALLOT
Mr. Ivins-Wel, We have political corporations IN III
great cities like New-York, and you nave uhohcIa
ballots they will place those ballots III inc h'rus oi zen
Of thousands of voters, and actually cast uef' Ihae
what we are trying stop. We want the Ne"-ior
worlngman to enter balot-booth WITHOUT pallo' an
TO select his
Mr. sheehan made speech furlously denouhcin
the bill, and predicting that the Republican par'
would be ruined If 1t supported 1t.
"Upon the contrary" said senator Erwin, IT LOOK
to me as if we were gaining q good many Iecruls.,
! The committee decided 10 nave the Dill pflhleu d
| amended by senator SAXON. The committee mas no
yet decided whether IL Will give any more heartnss VI
Republicans to get the bill before the Legislature
, | an early day but of course Mr.. SaXt0nS lmportan
| amendments to it must first be printed
MR. SAXTON WANTS TO KNOW WHAT TIL