Evening journal. [volume] (Wilmington, Del.) 1888-1932, 1890-08-05
A GREAT DEBATE.
AIR. CARLISLE RoUTs THREE ssNA-
TORS.


Senators and Makes a Great Speech
Mr. Hlssock-Now, right in that con.
rsction / desire to ask the Senator from
Kentucky this question; Ono year we
imported ~ 600 bushels Of potatoes
with duty of 10 cents bushsl. Does
tho Senator teR me that 10 cents bushel
was added to the American crop in what
It sold for in the market1If the Senator's
statement Is correct every buskel of
potatoes that was consumed In the
United States cost the consumer 10 cents
bushel more because OF that duty.
Mr.. Carllsle-Yes, sir; say that
II ~, 600 bushels of potatoes were
brought from tho Dominica OF Canada
into the United States and sold In par
ticular market on the American border,
American potatoes being sold
there at the same time, the American
potatoes brought 10 cents bushel mere
than they would have brought II the duty
had not been placed upon the Canadian
article, bus it does not help the price Of
American potatoes at any other pla CO. 1t
Is oaly ia that particular market whore
these things are being sold, aud where
as have conceded frequently in discus
sions upon this subject-the imposition
upon agricultural products may assist the
farmers to a certain extent, for a certain
period OF time, in particular localities,
yes the general effect upon the whole
American market on those products
amounts TO nothing whatever.
The price, IN other words, OF potatoes
along She border Of New York near the
Canadian line, which may be raised tenn
porarily during period Of scarcity by
| - 1 H.
Canadian potatoes and by the importation
Of those potatoes and their sale in that
market, does not affect the price Of pota-
toes In Iowa or Michigan or Kentucky,
| but only In that market where they are
being sold and where temporary scarcity
| exists
Bat / wish to say further upon this
subject of potatoes that they are scarcely
ever imported except during the period
| OF great scarcity, when the domestic
product has been exhausted and the
| American producer has no more to sell
Mr.. Aldrich. We imported last year
nearly 300, 600 pounds OF bacon and hams,
which paid duty OF 3 cents pound
| Now, was the entire American product
increased in value 5 cents pound by
that lnportationf
| Mr.. Carllsle-Not at all
| Mr.. Aldrich-Why mott
| Mr.. Carlisle--They were bacon and
hams, which do not como into competi-
tion with ours at all, because they were
| Of an entirely different charaetsr-W West
phalia hams and other species Of bacon,
which oar people desire to procure and
which they cannot procure at home, just
as we import Bohemian, BavRrian, and
other beer from abroad, notwlthstandin
the whole country Is flooded almost with
beer.
Mr.. Aldrioh-The next item in the
agricultural schedule is bsef, mutton, and
pork. We imported large amount Of
beef, mutton and pork which paid duty.
Mr.. Carlisle-A vast amount3
Mr.. Aldrich-I said large amount
300, 0o0 pounds Did that raise she price
OF beef, autton and pork, or was there
no compstitionf
Mr.. Carlisle-I make the same answer
to that that made before, that if the
beef, mutton and pork were brought into
this country to supply an actual demand
and were of the same kind az shat which
we produce ourselves, ARd were sold In
competition with them, then in thai mar
ket they had the same effect upon the
price, but not upon the general markets
Of the country.
Mr.. Aldrich-Why does net that rule
apply TO all the other articles in the tariff
schsdulss2
Mr.. Csrlisle-It does But your I'm
ported woolen goods, your imported cot
toa goods, your imported iron and steel,
and a hundred other articles l might
mention, enter into all the other markets
Of this country, and all over this country
they are being sold In competition with
the American product.
Mr.. Aldrlch-coes the Senator from
Kentucky mean seriously to say tina
beef might be imported into the city o.
New York and put up the price cent /
pound and not affect the price anywhere
elsef
Mr. Csrlisle--If imported in aufReien
quantities 1t would affect the price, bu
the insignlfcant amount of zoe. 00
pounds Of beef, mutton aud psrk, cover
ing an entire period of twelve months
Z does NOT affect the price Of those article
to any extent whatever, In my judg
ment.
Now, should like to ask the Senator
] question. He contends that the inevitsbl
E effect of the imposition Of high rate o
n duty upon imported goods Is to brin
down the price OF the goods. Does he thin
he can convince the wool growers Of th
= country that o duty Of so per cent. upo
- wool will increase the price Of that prt
duct, while duty Of 100 per cent upo
hts clsthing will reduce the price Of tbs
Articlei
Does he think that he can convince ii
/ farmers Of the country that duty of
cents a bushsl upon imported wheA
which amounts substantially 10 nothing
8 will increase the price Of that srticl
while duty Of 40 or 90 per cent. upo
Il his cotton and linen clothing will redu'
3 the price Of thati This rule must wol
either one way or the other. II the effe
Il Of the imposition Of q duty upon in
n ported goods is to reduce the price eith
Immediately or in q series Of years In oil
case, 10 must have the same effect In Il
= other.
, II BY imposing duty Of A cents
pound, as the bill proposes, upon certa
as grades Of wooden goods, and 80
W go per eent. al valorem besides, you e
pect to reduce the price Of the clothiI
"A Of the people, how is 1t possible that "
= can impose duty Of II and 10 cents
pound upon the raw wool and not redu
the price of that article tool SoImight
!, through the whole lst Of your schedul
or Ia this bill But as I understand u
is tendency Of the questions propounded
the Senator from Rhode Island, b
J., opinion Is that the imposition Of du
st upon potatoes and beef, and mutton 81
lv pork, does not increase the price d.
understand the Senator TO contend
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