Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1890-07-30
LIEUT.. GUYS DEFENSE.
tCbnfinued from Third Poge.l


CONTINUED from Third Poge.l
'How long since You have known that
charges were preferred against your
ssAbout seven weeks ago saw the fact stated
in Q newspaper. -Four or five weeks ago re-
ceived . message to come down to see Col
Robert"
COL. ROBERT RAISES QUESTION.
81 intend to raise the question right here that
nothing that has has been said to me as Com
missioner at any time shall be introduced a.
testimony in this case, and I want the
question settled right now" said Col.
Robert He was evidently very much
in earnest about IL and broke in several
times on the questions that Mr.. Claughton put
to Guy as to the conversation he had had with
Col Robert at the District building, but Mr..
Hazelton assured HIM that he would raise an
objection to every such question that was
asked the defendant
Mr.. Claughton asked Guy what Col. Robert
District building.
Mr. HAMILTON OBJECTS.
II object" said Mr.. Hazelton at ones.
"well, let's have the matter settled right
here" was Mr.. Claughtons remark, and an
Commissioners, separately and in body, was
begun.
Mr.. Hazelten left the room and returned
with a legal volume of authority on evidence
and proceeded to read from it at length, claim
ing that it settled the matter conclusively and
that the authority Of the Commissioners was
complete in their own limits and that it was
optional with Col Robert whether or not he
would allow the matter to be made public.
Mr.. ClsuRhton said that he had not asked
what some one had told Col Robert about Guy,
but simply what Col. Robert had told him.
This being the case he held that as there was
no one to be protected there was no
reason why the veil of secrecy should
be cast around that conversation. few criti-
cisms were made about letting the unsworn
testimony Of the ex-policeman Smith get out
into the public print and this
BROUGHT COL ROBERT TO HIS FEET
with an earnest objection. He held that the
he objected strongly to any criticism being
made in that way upon the actions of any of
the Commissioners
Mr.. Douglass interposed and called upon Mr.
Claughton to confine his argument to the
merits Of the case and not to descend to per-
sonalities in any way.
IF any one is to blame for letting those
papers get out we are all to blame together"
said Mr.. Douglass.
SAID col. ROBERT EXPRESSED AN OPINION.
"But want to show that Col. Robert ex-
pressed an opinion as to the guilt or innocence
Of the defendant" said Mr.. Claughton.
"Then you raise the question that Col Robert
should not sit upon this trial?"
''That's it exactly"
"Well," said Mr.. Hine ''this is not the place
nor the time to raise that question. And
hold that the question Mr.. Claughton has asked
Lieut. Guy is out of place and should not be
answered as 1t is irrelevant to say the least"
Mr.. Douglass took same ground and the ques-
ton renamed unanswered
COL. ROBERTS STATEMENT.
Col. Robert rose and said: 'Inasmuch as my
name is used SO freely in this case want it to
be understood that all / have done
in this matter was done in my off,
ciai capacity as Commissioner and with the
knowledge and approval of the other Com
missioners. as it was understood that was to
conduct tho preliminary investigation. Lieut.
Guy came to me not as q civilian but as one of
the subordnates Of the Commissioner He
had to come, and as a subordinate officer he
was compelled to answer any proper questions
that might put to him." That settled the
matter and the case then proceeded.
THE RAID ON MRS. BoYD's HOUSE.
Guy was asked q number Of questions az to
the charge Of conduct unbecoming an officer
with reference to the case Of Shurland and
Maddox in the raid on Mrs. Boyd's house
He told his story about that matter. He said
that he had told them simply to 60 to Mrs.
Boyd's-not to take any one with them, but
simply to sit around and see what was going
on. Shurland did not follow directions, but
wen. ''off down town on q bum" and as a re-
suit Of his actions there aud later at Mrs.
Boyd's was tried and dismissed from the force
ADJOURNED TILL FRIDAY.
This closed the direct examination for the
defense. Mr.. Douglass said that the trial
would have to adjourn at o'clock as Mr.. Hine
was obliged to leave for New York this after
noon.
This being the case. and as it was near 1
o'clock then, Mr.. Hazelton said he would prefer
not to begin his examination until the board
reconvened, as this would save time.
The trial then adjourned until 1 o'clock Fri
day afternoon.
COL ROBERT TALKS.
In conversation with STAR reporter after
the case was over for the day Col Robert said:
"This must not be construed into court. 1t is
simply trial board The Commissioners
have full power to dismiss a man
without any such trial, but we wish
to give man perfectly fair show. The law
yers are here to aid us in this investi-
CATION and not to convict or acquit a
man on technicalities. We have O full
right to conduct the investigation as We
please, for our sole object is to get at the
bottom facts in the matter. What we want to
officers or not, and if they are not, we should
find out that fact and dismiss
them from the force. 1t cannot
affect the merits Of the case. how we find out
whether man is innocent or guilty, and /
think that we have perfect right to tell the
lawyers at any time that they have gone far
enough. We must conduct the trial on our