New-York tribune., 1890-05-29
THE COMMITTEE ADJOURNS.
1T IS READY FOR CROKER, HOWEVER.
IF HE REALLY WANTS TO BE HEARD HE MAY
HAVE HIS CHANCE-POLICE CAPTAINS
EXAMINED ABOUT LIQUOR
LICENSES.

tho vxciea Denartment was not nearly finished. The
three present Excise Commissioners, TWO eN hAolSe
Commissioners Mr.. woodman and Mr. Won "lahh' ana
forty inspectors have yet to be examined put ''e
course nnrsped in the Excise investigation has been
70 follow M the testimony given by inspectors as 10
partcuar places and their acton IN iegaiu 10 'ic'i
with a further inquiry. The committee has now lcaiu
aAdttional evidence about the principal places of
questionable reputation in regard 70 which III" III
spectors already called testified and Mt WINS uoueh
that although il had been intended by the committee
TO sit on Thursday. it was better not to open up Dy
the testimony of inspectors, an inquiry iho ne"
places which might be brought to the houce oi '"c
cSnmitee. that inquiry could not ue 'onPiooN so
soon Thursday evening.
Senator Fassett also said he thought that this was
as good place any 10 knock on Before tne
examination of witnesses begun senator faSseu
made the following statement:
Cbd, he i'm WHICH he requests the committee
its sessions until after the return oi MI 'lohei Oh
June g. not giving us, however, any assurance ul"t
Mr. Croker will appear a witne., Inc cVnIuIE
tee authorizes me 10 make this public announcement,
To swear him or any other witnesses before the com
mittee. the committee will make arTaneementS 10 az
conmodate them in any reasonable way ana With SuI
reasonable notice to the committee that Will enpie
the members Of the committee TO % mn Mavor and
his witnesses. and also with such reasonable notto %
counsel that will enable counsel to acc0mm9ualc
their business affairs 10 the pleasure OF the Mayor
and his witnesses.
Mr. Ivns-Thats all very fine, but Will not I'd. deyCts .HS
nv business affairs TO the pleasure of Mr Grant anu
Mr.. Croker in July August and If this IS TO DC 'oe
ii has to be done in june so far as counsel e 'o"
ceTned. .
senator Fassett-That is very good There are are
thirty days in June and If Mr. Croker IS 4ue ior 3n t
can arrive get off his sea legs. look over the 'cst
mony and prepare TO swear.
Police Captain Brogan, of the Fifteenth ireclnct
was then called TO the witness chair and most I'M
happy man he before Mr.. Ivius had asked nm
half dozen questions lie was requested u explain
the existence in his precinct OF the liquor store at
Fourth and Thompson SITS. which was on Tuesday
described by Mr. Ety. president Of the Wetmore Home
as notorious, vile and nasty place He said that
the liquor store called tc his attention some time
last summer by Mr. Ely, of the Wetmore Home
Mr.. WINS asked:
owhy did not YOU as police captain ipd rl out out
e1tns 11 isn 1T was @ arrests wa lad s een mad n 1t
for svieat Violations Gn'5 Of the Excise law ''
0wIhen it should have have been e.y nnder your sTI MI
Ely made complaint in general. without any facts:
sent an officer and found there was nothing 'hA'
Odd not you know that il open in the fall
and winter all night every night IN the %ecKi wee ,on
Cit continued open neysrtheles;' Anh ,d wa va,
open like all liquor stores, with cham on the INSIDE
Q.-what made you report that John F. Dole the
A.-Because knew nothing against HI, charactcI;
Qwas that sufficient M to lq,y y0a IN RSnSS sanelnS
to be of good character unless he is proven to be OF
oNAre You able to name any respectable person
that goes in there except poncenah Or an Excise
PecfGr % the oaIs,ey psae Were & and M vour officers did
not report it, whose fau b, III A.-Neeect Of duty
and total force of ninety five There are eighty
four patronen and four rOundsmen. II the place
lad been open all night in November, 1859, arrests
would have been made But these places take every
precaution against the police .,.... .,.o r,,.,.o
law, is he OF good moral character? AIN the strict
sense Of the word don't think ne Is ,o ,,onoo,,o,
of the law in strict or loose sense! An
O-Very well then. why did not YOU answer No"
10 the question III the report asking If the apphcaht
is of good moral character A-(Aiter long pau,el
because / never knew anything against this mans
moral character don't think man is in the strict
sense Of 'he word an immoral character If he violates
o.,what made you, change your opinion in the
suppose understand your last question better than
Mr. wins TO the stenographcr)-Resd the questions
and answers were read Don't yon think the ques.
would make immoral man II he arrested
for violation of the Excise law. think moral char
acter7 general character. \ man Of immoral
and general bad
Q.-Woud you not hold manufacturer of thieves
and Uhcrtincs to be immoral? A-NO, sir. | should
not consider him to be immoral.
excise 70 n me a s ana on tg report Si me
any ward detectives on your force Al have two
e. they hey known 5 n 70 fss, every et pssHs ana
-
great many Of them who know them.
o,-Then why don't you get some Others that are
your power TO get others A.--These men are
very efficient that have
o.ZThis is rather demonstration Of their inefi-
o.Do think that it is natterlng unfattering
comment on the police administration OF your precinct
Doyle's than your men would have! Al must say
that question is unfattering. | think that if VIC
a in-D q ult ALI fhpp
instead Of having it divided, it would be more Of
Q.-wherein is it divided? A-Thc inspectors make
one report and the captains another-two different
o.-You are rather sorry for that1 A.-Tlere are
two different blanks We have not the same facilities
for qualifying ourselves 10 the character Of the
applicant.
o.-You think then that the facilities for qualifying
yourselves to the character Of the applicant depend
upon the blank1 Ain manner our blanks don't
give US me chance OF stating exactly mans char
good, moral and bad. man be good and moral,
and man can be good and not moral man in a way.
you know Of any policemen who good and not
oThen @ what do MGir yoH mean no bv saving ta, man
can be good and not moral in way daughter
Ivnswe would IKE I to get " nt5 S th iaI men,J 2
atmosphere of this man. lie Is in charge Of one Of
the largest precincts Of the city, and has got 100 men
Captain Brogan earnestly Only ninety five Laugh
Mr. Iyns--Dont you think it Is the duty Of a
pEos 6dn oeT ns o 10 be @ 50 we up in & his precinct at he
it. and that the initiative is hi, part should be
A.-Well there have been that | have bccn
opposed TO places being licensed that they granted
have never been requested 10 make n protest
Q.-But have You made protest Ayes sir
ON What cases7 ANDY Kelly. for 80 =
West Third-st and No. 229 WOOstcrst Kelly has
three places protested. because his place wa, con
Quoted in q bad. immoral manner. and was the re-
Of the vest characters. His license cNprcd on
the 10th of last April and he is an applicant for a
license now.
o.-There has been some controversy about giving
him a lcense7 Ayes.
Q-Do you know II Bernard F. Martin has made
efforts to get this mans license? A--NO sir
senator Fassett-Thcre Ought not 10 be any doubt
abOu. refusing him licpnsei A.-No. sir.
OFF he should get a license how should Won
account for IT. Al could not account for IT. /
made protest against him and report against him
i went personally TO the Excise Board
Captain John II. McCullagh. Of the Fourteenth Pre-
cinct took the stand. anG unlike his predecessor in