St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1890-10-23
AS FAR OFF AS EVER.
Such Is the Proposed Settle
ment Of the Base Ball
Trouble
League and Association Mag
mates Refuse to Recognize
the Brotherhood.
All Hope Of Effeoting Union
Abandoned for the PpeS-
ent.
Results Of Running Races on
Four Tracks East and
West.

new YORK, Oct. 22.-As predicted,
the conference between the National
and Players leagues and the Ameri-
can association has fallen through, at
least for the present. The Players
League conference committee made
demand that the players be repre-
scented in the conference of to-day.
They persisted in their demand, and, as
consequence, the conference has not
been held and the settlement of the
base ball trouble is as far off as ever. 1t
IS generally conceded that the Players
are responsible for the present condi-
ton of affairs. No conference was held
to-day, but there were over three hodrs
of informal meetings, some of which were
held in the general conference room at
the Fifth Avenue hotel and others Oh
the outside. The representatives of the
three leagues met together at 80 this
afternoon. There were present. repre-
Senting the National league: A. q.
Spaulding, of Chicago; j. b. Day, of
New York. and Charles II. Byrne, of
Brooklyn. The representatives of the
American association were Allen Thur
man, of Columbus; Chris Won der Abe,
of st. Louis, and William Barnie, of
Baltimore. The Players league REP re-
sentatives were Al johnson, of Cieve-
land; Wendell Goodwin, of Brooklyn,
and E. B. Talcott, of New York. and Of
the players there were John NJ. Ward,
of Brooklyn, Arthur Irwin, of Boston.
and Ed Hanlon, of Pittsburg. The
meeting between the magnateS and
players was stormy one.
but They All Survived
to fight on another day. Allen Thur
man was in the chair. In looking about
over his committee he spied the three
players, whose presence was destined
to block all the proceedings which
might have been taken for the salvation
OF the base ball cause. Mr.. Thurman
declined TO call the conference to
order until the three players had
left the room. Al johnson, chair
man of the Players league committee,
attempted TO explain the presence
Of the three players. He said that he
had been instructed to present COM
mnnicatiOn stating that the original
committee of three of the Players
league should De increased to six. He
held that TO be equally represented in
conference where there were thee Ma
tional league men and three ASsocla-
ton representatives, the Players league
less they had that number they did not
feel like comforting with the other COM
mitteeS. A hot discussion then ensued.
1t was held on the other side that as the
committee had adjourned OIL Oct. 9 with
but nine men. it should again convene
with that number. The proposition of
the Players league could not be consid-
cred until the conference of nine had
assembled. Mr.. johnson acknowledged
that this would be the proper thing to
do. The three players retired. and the
conference was called together. The
communication from the Players league
was then read by the chairman. 1t
stated that three additional members
had been selected to look out for the in
terestS of the Players league, and
asked that they be admitted to the con-
ference. Mr.. Johnson moved that the
new members be accepted, but this mo-
ton was defeated by vote of six to
three, the National league and Assocsa-
ton men voting against it. The three
representatives of the Players league
then withdrew from the conference and
joined the
Three Excluded Pla Yers.
They were quite emphatic in their
statements that the conference was at
an end, for they would not confer un-
less the Players were given hearing.
The conference then adjourned subject
to the call of the president. Chairman
Thurman, i'll maintaining his position,
said: When the conference committee
was organized | understood that it rep
resented three separate associations,
each standing upon its own merits
the American Association by three men,
tie National league by three men and
the Players by three, and the national
agreement by nobody. AS chairman OF
the conference committee | could only
call the committee of which was chair
man. If these three men came from
other leagues / would have ruled the
same. | have acted in no spirit OF an
tagonism, and nave noill feeling against
the Players" The Players league
holds to its statement that its people
should have SIX representatives.
SpaIding Has His Say.
Many stories are about tonight,
among them one to the effect that GER
tain capitalists of the Players league
will soon ask for the privilege of nego-
tiating with the National league to
dent A. g. Spalding said tonight
with reference 10 the conference:
when Mr.. Thurman called the meeting
TO order today matters had assumed an
entirely different aspect than upon the
occasion of our adjournment some
weeks ago. When the conference as
sembled we found, in addition to the
regularly appointed members of the
Players league committee, MeSSrS.
Ward, Hanlon and Irwin. Mr.. Thurman
announced that it would be impossible
to reconvene until the outsiders had
retired from the room. When MIR.
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these three l arose in behalf of the
league and stated that matters were
getting decidedly mixed, and re-
called to the minds of Messrs.
johnson, Olcott and McAlpin the
fact that they had informed us
upon our former joint meeting
that they had full power to act. Further,
that before the league consented to any
negotiations whatever, it was mutually
decided that the question OF a compro-
mise should be settled between the
moneyed men of both organizations
on purely business basis. They
meeting of the Players league on
Tuesday it was thought best to add the
three names to the list, inasmuch as i'm
the conference the association and Ma
tional league would have membership
of six national agreementclubs, whereas
their representation would be only
three. As matter of fact.
neither the league OF the as.
association delegates were there as
representative of the national agree.
ment in any shape or form. | told the
gentlemen this, and further expressed
it as my belief that they personally
acted in good faith, but that the brother
hood, and not the Players league. had
tied their hands. This point was prac
tically admitted.