The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1890-10-30
THE LEGISLATURE.
10TH DAY.
WEDNESDAY, Oct. 20.
AFTERNOON SESSION.


line as deep as it could, and he did
not see how it could be revived.
Another of those nice little papers
had been laid before them, but it
was an innocent sort of thing. He
knew something about the Santa Fee
Railway, but all this paper said was
that the Santa Fe Railway Co. would
advertise the islands in their cars.
There was no statement that the
would back this line. Enough COM
petition existed between railways to
ensure travellers from the islands of
everything for their comfort. 1t
was four months since the Farallon
first arrived, and why had not bet
ter steamer been put in her place?
| A hundred thousand consumers for
bananas luxury that only few
would buy-meant nothing. If the
San Diego community took thou
sand punches n year 1t would be as
much as ever. There was nothing
in the paper to prove that the San
Diego people took the slightest in
terest in the matter, nothing but the
bare statement that they would dup
licate the assistance from this Gov
ernment.
Noble Muller was opposed TO the
amendment. He moved that the
item read, Subsidy to Oceanic line
10 San Francisco, $4S, 900, and subs
sidy to Oceanic line to Tahiti, Sl5,-
600. The San Francisco steamers
were necessity. The hon. Noble
from Hamakua had said that the
Oceanic steamer on last up trip
made 1000. Was that net or
gross receipts? He doubted if the
hon. Noble knew which. Having
been in the steamship business him
self ten years he could say that it
cost such steamer as the Australia
$500 or $1,000 day for expenses.
Regarding the assertion that the
Santa Fe Railway was backing the
San Diego line he said it was not
true. Only lately note of Living
stone, Clark & Co. drawn by Living
stone, Clark & Co. had been pro-
tested.
President Walker-This is per-
sonal matter and not in order here.
Noble Muller-I wanted to show
that the line has no backing by that
Railway Company and that protest
ed note is my argument.
President Walker-It is not in
order here.
Noble Muller-Then will say the
assertion made of the backing is not
true.
Rep. Richard wanted to discuss
the feasibility of cutting down the
item. He fully realized the benefits
J derived by the country from the
Oceanic steamers, in our condition
of being separated many thousand:
of miles from the rest of the civil
lied world. He should favor letting
this item stand as it was for the bene
fit of the Oceanic Co., and making
separate item for the benefit O.
any other steamship company by
way of paying for carrying mails.
, Noble Cornwell failed to see any
thing in the arguments produced TO
reducing the amount of subsidy tt
the Oceanic line, or having the sub
sidy divided between different line!
at the discretion of the Ministry
Besides giving us communication
with the United States, this com
pany gave us direct communication
7 With Australia, New Zealand ant
' Samoa. He was as sure as that h
stood on the floor that if this subsid,
was reduced that communication
would be withdrawn, because tn
steamers lost from day to da,
and half calling here, which mean
good deal in dollars and cents
that time was gained in reaching
San Francisco.
Noble j. nj. Horner wished 70 sa
a few words more, if the Presiden
would kindly excuse Noble Muller
Noble Muler-Thank you.
5. would ask to be excused, as can
stand more. (Retires amid laughter.
: Noble Horner, continuing, hel
that the matter of the San Dieg
line could be renewed as well a
that of the Paradise of the Pacifi
yesterday. The public had fo
Q years been paying SIS for passag
by the Oceanic steamers, and woul
continue to pay it unless oppositio
was encouraged. The hon. membe
for Hilo had told them that tn
freight on bananas had already bee
reduced, and if the passage was ais
brought down it would be big itel
J for the public. Who said there wa
any value in those papers? The
were not compelled to pay any MOI
ey till the services were rendered
Let them do good to the people {
the islands and adopt that amend
| ment.
Noble Macfarlane said on the fir
two occasions that this matter ha
come up he gave what he conside
ed good business reasons for oppo'
ing the subsidy, On the third o.
casion he voted TO revive the discus
sion because he was given to undo
stand that information was fOrtl
coming 10 the effect that he pr'
proposed line had good backing
Had he been shown that the Alchis0l
Topeka and Santa l'e Railway VI
backing the company he should has
Vninl fop Ia ua lac Wnull Then /