New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-05-04

What did he mean ny those other fellows p
asked Senator Fassett
The Board of Aldermen who were caught TAX
ing the money for bribery in the Broadway Doodle
matter
The Sharp mstter?'>
YES. sir
Some of the questions and answers that fol-
lowed were
.nS S Lrid Mr Grant say any one had offered him
any nr n A.-NO
. =, HAD any Of the Board of Aldermen been in
dcted Al do not know. THIS was in 1883
nme tS, lon Wa brought out BY Mr. Grant,
Gid Mr.. Grant tell Won lust what Mr.. Croker
Q-What was 1t called forth Mr.. Grants sub,c
qhcht remarks a the Mount -. Vincent A.-Oh
bis treatment Of the family-hi> kindness. all he had
%u' ana done Tor them Mr. Grant was dining with
Mr. cociran-D DO Won mean to say that Mr. Grant
tN" Nv, envelopes containing money 10 Flo >ic
Crokcr; all In the year Of I--Gi Al didn't say so
Ahnt Won have lett II 10 b. inferred An
the nr~t year Nv innres"ion +. r. W. civen in tho
early part Of hi, term
=, Q.-fon have said that If some people don't stop
Weie J, 10Y more you can tell A.-NeS
Q.-fou stlll mean that II ANYTHING unpleasant Is
,ad 10 y"n or OF you you can come back and testify
Q.-You VIII please answer Al will not.
Dwell. shouid like 10 know what amonnt OF
provocaton you must havel Al refuse to answer
Mr. McCann was again "onc too many" for
Mr.. Cochran. Indeed when Mr. Cochran went
at him again on this subject. he gravcly rebukrd
the able lawyer saying: You have no business to
ask that question The matter submitted
to the ruling OF the committee and Senator
fasseti advised categorical answer TO the qucs-
ton " DO you know anything more? ?"
The answer OF Nh Mclann was not satisfactory.
lie took refuge IN the family again. THIS Is
no place 10 wash family lmcn. hc remarked.
H. is really painful 10 me 10 have Ia come here
and Interfere with innocent children and women.
whose boots those people are not III to black.
Mr. Cochran then M vain attempted to shake
McCannS statements about the money that rokcr
had left AT home for Mrs. Croker 10 guard until his
return ana about his recent conversation with
NJ lIalloran Mr.. Cochran wanted 10 knew
why the witness had not asked MI.
lialloran VINO had distributed the Sls0,0oo
Mr.. NcCann'S reply was:
Il didn't think II was necessary 10 trace it
any further , .,
sald Mr. Cochran. You knew that Your testi-
mony had been denied in interviews
Naturally IL had"
And you knew that YOU could have corrob-
grated it by Mr.. IIaloran?'
know there are a hundred m'n 10 com"
here and swear that I'm the greatest rascal liy,
stand in the courts and with the community ~
large.
Senator McNauChton asked the witness some
questions as 10 the arrangement Of thc rolls "f
bills in the satchcl carried by Richard Croker.
and rs Ia the words Croker used and ether details
Us 10 the celebrated visit Nr. Met ann in his
answers stuck 10 the statements lac has now re-
pcatcdly made TO what he saw and what hap
Irncd and he said nothing that took away from
'hr general impression that he was telling the
truth.
J. II. Durham, The drygoods man. was next
called n give his opinion Of McCanns trust
wor,hiness. He said that II Mr.. McCann had
any motives, he hardly thought he should be
licvc him under oath Mr. WINS did not think
H. worth while 10 cross-eNaminc Mr. Durham.
and recess Of thT~-quarters of an hour WIS
taken.
The interest in the proceedings nt The after
moons session was even .ueat"r than
durina the examination Of McCann. The
fact that Mayor Grant was 10 be examined
upon the rcas>cmblinc Of the committee after
recess kept many people. fearful Of losing their
seats wandering around the corridors Of the Court
House. hungry, but well contcntcd with the pros
poet OF a lively afternoon. They were not dis
appointed Every bench and seat in the room
vas crowded when Senator Fassett called for order
al 20 p. m. and the atmosphere WAS most M
pleasantly carrSslng and warm.
The fist witness vas cA-N2Nor / dson. lie
was examined by "a new and uucN pectcd friend
q the committee hone other than Joseph II.
ChOaic The examination ran IN tins way
V.-You were Mayor Of Scw-Yofk at one umei A.
. Yes IN Ie-3 and issi.
Q.-Thcrc va. vacancy IN the Office Vi the PUB
o~Xou hold the mTitcr OF appointment under al
Q.~you rcmer1Ber the appointment at that time
O WiI YOU please state whether Mr Grant wa q,
that time. December. l--i. candidate for tic Once
of Commissioner II Pubic Works A-Not o." far as
g Did ,on In any way or did any yer,pu prcpoc
or suggest hi, nam" rs candidate for that Office y
. ia any person suggest to ycu Or IN any way
approach You. on q" subject Of nominating Grant f"r
nun. alton with NJ Grant 30 rNpeci to thai once 81
AL u thinN did. - ..,.
In a general way. con.ucd with ham IN relation O"
Q You were well acquainted with him at that time
Q. IN nct YOU were frequently In the habit Of see
o. What he ,sd 70 YOU or what You said to him h..
Il made any impression ou your mind Al don't
-cmcmbcr anything Particular. ! think TIA um |
Wa gong 10 appoint Nr. squire Commissioner Of
Public Work.. 1hai B, my recollection
Q.-fu any conversation did DE OF N0u IN any man
lc', refer to the possibility Of hi own appointment
Nj. Boardman examining ,-Thcrc wa, grca, |
l~-. considerable believe there wa, good deal
4 tilk 10 the new -papcrs.
Q-Nou read the ncV sInpcrsi A.. Ycs. To- some !
'Vt.ut. iui not very mlh
D.. You knew that Nj. Grant a Tanurny Hall |
audidao for the commissioner hip Al -tw Ia, |
amr mentioned IN tins connect on In the paper.
u Lut va, Ne toward the ond the Gamnati, Han |
andidat" pressed for tha' placer A.. 80. eir. the /
uau pressed for tina, place wts John Me- .1do
@. You refused 10 appoint NcQuadc' \. Yes. sir !
Q.-Bccausc DE inlNcd up with the Harlem Cont /
ionsc scandal Al don't know thlt tie /
son.
q When va t'at refusal announced Al never
uuouuccd n.
lou had tali., with Gram At that tine every day.
lint you A.-Not very much.
.. lou know t1c'" was struggle going during
lie lat part al Your term on the part Of TiumAny
iall 10 'ccnre the appointment oi Corporation
ounScl and the 'cnmi--Dncr ~ Public Wors. ant
bat the County Democracy were trying 10 holl tie
tuhtDn until Grant WhS in Al saw something Of
IN III" pres. but very little of II reached me-.
Q.-lou were anAIpus . make the appointment
Ourscf \. Yes.
Q.-NOI did not want ~" matter IN 60 far and fall
the hand Of Grant, A.-NO, II NY duty 81
iahc the appointment.
Q.-lou did not want 70 make the appointment
ulc-S the Board OF Aldermen would cOnirml Al
ID not "ant to do 80. bat did.
Q.-Did not you express view IN conversation
th some Of the leaders that would appoint this
IAN that provided the E0ard of Aldermen would
juhrm Al never did that with reference any |
tnddate
Q.Arc Won positive OF thatl At T. possible | |
NV have said to squire that I did not believe he
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