The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-09-16

Noble Baldwin said he could End no |
expenditure in the Finance Minister'S
report for the Allen lot.
Noble Mscfarlane explained that this |
was an exchange and not an out and out |
purchase.
Noble Baldwin said he understood that |
the work at kakaako was in moving |
twenty buildings, whereas the Finance |
Committee speak of q tender for only
nine. He was sorry THAI the statement
OF the Minister of the Interior was not
here but he had wished TO examine the
books OF the Interior Department and
the Minister of the Interior had refused
to allow him to do so, but had said that
he would speak 10 the Finance Commit
tee. Mr.. Thurston desisted immedi-
ately and had not been notified that he
could be permitted TO see them. There
seem TO have been misunderstanding
in regard to the matter He would
move that the consideration be deferred
until next Monday as the Minister Of the
Interior was preparing q report. The
Finance Committee have stated that
they wished the fullest investigation.
Let them prove it by supporting this
motion.
Rep. Nawahi protested against the
hon member speaker any longer. He
would favor discussion in Committee OF
the Whole.
Noble Macfarlane said he. hoped the
member for Hilo would withdraw his
objection.
Noble Baldwin would vote 10 consider
next Monday in Committee Of the Whole.
| Noble Macfarlane beginning TO speak.
Rep. Brown rose TO q point oil order.
| The member had spoken twice.
Rep. kapaehaole reminded the Presi-
dent that others wished 10 speak besides
those who had been wasting the time
of the House. 1t was useless to say this
was an important report. Everyone
knew that already. We ought to take
up the topics in it one by one. But to
talk generally all over the subject is use
less. We shall never get anywhere that
way. therefore move it be discussed
in Committee of the Whole each part by
itself.
The House went into Committee OF
the Whole, Noble Marsden in the chair.
Noble Macfarlane said he wished to
correct statement Of Noble Baldwin's.
1t had come to the knowledge of the
Finance Committee that the late Minis
ter was inspecting the books OF the In
terror Department with reference to the
late resolution, and il was suggested that
under the resolution he had no right to
do SO. The Minister Of the Interior ex-
planned that to Mr.. Thurston and said he
would confer with the committee. That
was done and the committee had no OBJ
lection, but wished q member OF the
Finance Committee to be present. Mr.
the Minister what was decided, but went
of yachting.
The House proceeded to consider each
title of the report by itself.
Rep. Nawahi moved the sections re-
} ferring to the Judiciary Department bt
adopted. Carried
, The next part was that referring to the
Bureau of Public Instruction.
Rep kapaehaole moved it be adopted
: Carried.
Next was the part referring TO TIT
Foreign Office. 1t was adopted.
Next came the part referring to the In
ferior Department.
: Rep. Brown said he had come to TIN
r conclusion that the Finance report wa
r nothing but a criticism on the method
of work in the different departments, ee
pecially in the Interior Department. A
! to the fire lot, the Minister of the In
l terror had the right to effect exchanges G
Government property whenever the pub
e lie interest required it. The House ha
passed $50, 900 for erection of Contra
s Fire Station on the lot obtained by tn
2 late Minister, and that is an endorse
e ment of his conduct in this regard. s
e that transaction is perfectly straigh
n upon its face and the report of the Minis
r ter of the Interior bears this out. Th
t Finance Committee have misunderstood
Il the matter. Now, in regard to the Roa'
It Boards, great deal has been said, tina
e the pay rolls are insufficient, etc., etc
g No one is at fault except the Roa'
n Boards themselves. He cannot be II
t every district at once. do not see VIII,
j the sins of the Board should be laid o.
}, his shoulders when the very object c
: the law was to take the matter out of hi
], hands and give it to the. districts. Some
t thing has been said about the appropria
e ton for Court House. l know abou
the one at Koolauloa. There was none
left in that case for the furniture, and
e was paid for out of the same appropris
t ton. In Kohala and Roma it took tn
: whole appropriation to put up the build
j. ings, because members who brou Iht tn
items in had not estimated tor furniture
e and it had to be got out of another appro
e priation. A great deal has been sai'
r about the errors of judgment of tn
d Superintendent Of Public Works. Yer
o well, errors of judgment may have beef
q made, but think the Finance Commit
# tee have gone beyond the scope of thei
r duties to drag up every little thing, an
J. have shown feeling-I may say spite
a against the late Minister. AS to tn
d agreement with Wilder Steamship Co
Irwin & Co., Castle & Cooke, etc, wit
. regard to the Volcano road, / reall
s think the Minister of the Interior did d.
II something which the law did not allo,
i him to do. Under this agreement h
l. spent $l3 600 more than the appropris
l. ton, and although this agreement di
It not pledge the Governments credit,
d was an undertaking to pledge it, and b
If was not authorized to do 80 by any Law
It AS to the Road Boards, / am of opinio
e that they are good thing, and if thei
n work on other islands has been as goo
e as on this, the country has received
& great and lasting benefit from them. TIL
l. Finance Committee make structures o
d certain stamp transactions. There
: think they are too severe. The sale wa
d merely of spoiled and worthless stamps
o which were cancelled before sale.
o was better that the Government shout
realize something on them than nothin
= at all. Mr.. President, if were as sati.
It fed with regard to all the items as / ar
If in regard to the $4,000 for the Volcan
d road, l might vote for the adoption {
z this report, but as it is, cannot. .
, Noble Widemann only wished to refe
Il to the Fire Department transaction. Tn
: last Appropriation Bill appropriate
Il $4,000. The Minister spent $2,647