The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-09-23
Afternoon Session.

rowed and not SIS, 900. The road would
be a good thing. If Peter Lees road
were bought and this road completed, a
man could drive all the way from Hilo
to Waiohinu, which would be a great
public benefit. The road would open up
a great deal of land Tor homesteads, etc.
Rep. Lucas was opposed to appropriate
ing ten cents for the Volcano road, but
he was willing to appropriate enough 20
nav the money that had been borrowed.
Mr.. Thurston had no right to borrow this
money. That was what made the
trouble in 1887. We had a Ministry here
which would not do so. He was going
10 stand by them. There was no more
d" l am" business, but "we are to-
day. The Volcano road was no use at
all ike the Punchbowl road. 1t was
some private scheme. 1t ought to be
cleaned out OF the Appropriation Bill,
as understand, there are more lunas
than workmen on the Volcano road-pet
chums OF the ex-Minister-of the big
headed Minister. There goes Noble
Cornwell-perhaps he's one of those who
have got something out OF it. When this
Appropriation Bill was drafted there
were two niggers in the fence. 1 don't
believe there is any niger in the fence
now. The late Minister, the great 4" l
am, ;" who is not here now, thank God!
thought it would be alright. l know
some OF these people who are laughing
now don't like these remarks, but they
suit me, and they suit the majority of
this House. am not as rich as most OF
the men in this House, but l have an
honor and principle in me, and l pro-
pose TO stand by them. This Appropria-
ton Bill wasn't got up by this present
administration. They took it because it
was handy. They are always jumping
up and having things changed. Why
shouldn't they be changed, we are on
top now. This business of appropria-
ting so, 900 or sec, 900 is a dead, outright
swindle. and the Finance Committees
report proves it. l don't know what the
motions are, came in late, but | move
these people be paid.
Rep. Waipuilani thought the road
could be completed for $4,000 if it were
only Is feet wide. He moved it pass at
So, 200, including the borrowed money.
Rep. Richard concured with the last
speaker. Fifteen feet was wide enough,
and as wide as the country could afford.
He hoped the House would not vote any
greater amount.
Rep. Kapaehaole said the road would
be Of great benefit to the country. What
was the use of bringing tourists here if
We have no good roads. The question is
whether sec, 900 will be enough. The
member from Hilo says it will not be. l
favor $50, 600.
Noble Muller said the appropriations
IN Section made nearly $1,000, 900. The
Postal Savings Bank would not bring in
that amount
Noble J. N. Horner had thought he
would make quite a speech before din
ner; now he had very little to say. This
Legislature was not made up OF old
fogies. There were some who tried to
block improvements, but fortunately |
they were not in the majority. How |
could we pay our debts if we made no |
improvements. This road would open |
up magnificent coffee lands, the best he |
had seen. Good sugar lands too he was
told. We must increase our taxable |
values from fifty millions to a hundred |
millions. He saw a great deal of i'm |
proved property in his minds eye. No |
matter if $50 900 were inserted in the |
bill. only fifteen or twenty thousand |
would be spent now that the Cabinet had |
Peter Lee backing them.
Rep. White thought $50 900 too much, |
the worse half Of the road being already !
built Ii we make large appropriation
Il viii all be spent. 1t is like feeding
pigs. No matter how much you will
give them. they will get away with it.
am not in favor OF paying the money
borrowed. It viii be lesson to future
Cabinets not TO act in the same way If
we refuse TO pay this money. Ii these
claims are paid, then the Likelike fun
eral claims ought to be paid. The House
should be careful not to appropriate too
much money. He thought $40, 900 would
ne enough.
Noble Macfarlane had not intended TO
saw anything more, but as Noble Horner
had minated that Peter Lees offer was
perfectly ridiculous Noble j NJ. Homer
i did not say So. He would add word.
The road had been incompetently built
under an incompetent road supervisor
and incompetent Minister. The pay roll
was open to gross frauds, whether they
had been perpetrated or not. He be-
Geved from the enormous sums eX-
pended, that gross frauds had been per-
petrated. Thirty-five Hawaiians all
sign by his mark simply, generally with
no witnesses. Will any one believe that
Hawaiians taken at random
in the district could not write. We find
one Kamaka signing his mark, and in
case signing his name as wit
ness. This is not an isolated case, but
there are twenty or thirty more. These
pay rolls are evidently stuffed, and
fraudulent. hoped these matters would
come up in a proper manner before the
House, but the ex-Ministef saw fit to ad-
iress his answer not to the House, but
% a newspaper, and his friends chose to
shut off debate.
Rep. Nawahi said the question before
.he House was not pay roll, but how we
are going to spend to finish the road and
20 saw. Mr.. Chairman, get up and put
he question on the $4,000.
Noble Baldwin would like to correct a
made by Rep. White,
With regard to what said. [ did not
advocate paying these people, because
thew advanced their moneyin good faith.
[ do not think we ought to take that into
account. II we do we shall get into hot
water. The people must look out for
themselves. Those who want the Vol
cano road. should vote 70 pay these
oh. II