The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-11-04

Australia $500 or 81 900 a DAY for ex-
penses. He did not believe that the
Santa Fe Railway had anything % do
with the steamer line.
Rep Ricllasd wanted 10 discuss the
feasibility OF cutting down the item He
fully realized the benefits derived by thse
country from the Oceanic steamers. in
our condition of being separated many
thousands Of miles from the rest Of the
civilized world. He should favor letting
this item stand as it was for the benefit
of the Oceanic company, and making a
separate item for the benefit OF any other
steamship company by way OF paying for
carrying mails.
Noble Cornwell-I have listened with
great interest TO the remarks from the
hon. noble from Hawaii and the hon.
representative from Honolulu, bct they
have failed in their remarks TO convince
me that the item of 600 shoGid be
reduced or divided with other lines az
the discretion OF the Cabinet. We have
a line which has been established and
done good service to US; they have car
ried out the terms OF their contract with
this Government; they have fitted Gp
their steamers at great expense Tor the
convenience OF dealers in fruit, and DO
not think we would be acting IN good
faith if we should reduce the amount OF
this subsidy. We must not lose sight Of
tie fact that we are not only IN steam
communication with San Francisco, bnt
this same line gives Us communication
with Samoa. New Zealand and Sydney,
and l can say from good authority,
should this subsidy be reduced the Aus
tralian steamers will be withdrawn. Tor
this reason: That in stopping at Homo
lulu the through steamers lose from p to
SO hours, and should this time be gained
at the other end, it means quite an item !.
to the steamship company IN having Thea
English mails on time, and hope theS
hon. members will vote for the indefinite
postponement OF this amendment.
Noble J. VI. Horner wished TO say 4.
few words more, If the President would
kindly excuse Noble Muller.
Noble Muller-Thank. you. would
ask to be excused, as can't stand more.
(Retires, amid laughter.)
Noble Horner, continuing, held that
the matter OF the San Diego line could
be renewed as well as the Paradise ,
of the Pacific yesterday The public
had for years been paying S75rfor pas
sage by the Oceanic steamers, and would
continue to pay it unless opposition was
encouraged The hon. member for HilO
had told them that the freight on bana-
mas had already been reduced, and ii the
passage was also brought down it would
be Dig item for the public. Who Said
there was any value in those Papers2
They were not compelled to pay any
money till the services were rendered
Let them do good to the people Of the
islands and adopt that amendment
Noble Macfarlane said, on the first two
occasions that this matter had come up
he gave what he considered good busi-
ness reasons for opposing the subsidy
On the third occasion he voted to revive
the discussion because he was given 70
understand that information was forth
coming TO the effect that the proposed
line had good backing. Had he been
shown that the Atchison, Topeka and
Sante Fe Railway IVES backing the COM
pany he should have voted for il, as be
would then be assured that there would
be a legitimate competition, and pas
sages be reduced, which he though.
were now high. Until they had assur-
ances that the competition was substar-
tial, it would be bad policy to assist
rivalry with company that had given
US good service-especially as the
Oceanic Company was losing its Austr1r
liam subsidy-and it would take vesf
little to make its through steamers leave
Honolulu out. He did not see the adj
vantage TO the country in subsidizing
such a grapevine line as this one, run
ming to Hilo and Mahukona. and Homo
lulu There was very little prospect q
the United States Tonnage Bill beeouA
ing law at the short session OF Congress
IN December. Ii this company had the
Atchison line behind it, something more
was required TO prove it than the state
ment in the circular. That the railway
way company would advertise the islands
was nothing more than any other com
pany would do If furnished with the
The Oceanic Company was
doing IL all the time. The Oceanic line
was running to the Colonies in the face
OF the withdrawal OF support by the
New South Wales Government, and
the through steamers were probably
running at loss, so that il would re-
quire all the profit on the intermediate
steamer TO make up the shortage on the
others. Therefore he would consider il
very injudicious to withdraw any Of our
support from the Oceanic Company AZ
this iuncture.
Rep. White saw nothing but gas in tie
against the amendment,w while
substantial reasons had been given for
its passage. What would be saved on
sugar freights would be large item. de
had piece OF land on Maui that would
produce 400 punches Of bananas, bur
there was nothing in growing them
after sending them to Honolulu and pay
ing 20 cents freight TO San Francisco
With the new line there would be profit
Tor himself and other small landholderk
in bananas, as they could ship them .
San Francisco at fifty cents bunch Tie
new line had already reduced the price
Of hay and feed. He could not under
stand the opposition Of Honolulu mem
Oers, and it might be necessary for the
country members to bring them to their
senses, as they had done the other day.
when the city members tried TO cut down
appropriations for roads and bridges in