The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1890-06-24

term. or to prevent the confirmation OF any
ono In his place. so that he might hold over
Mccain mentioned to me that Adams was ac'
ouaIpted with some OF tho Aldermen. l don't
remember that he mentioned what Aldermen
/ said that may be Adams would know somo.
thing about this fund. aud Mccain said that
might talk to him about that. too; 40 he went
out TO find Adams, and brought him to the
ptore to meet mo- Tho only purpose. though
gns 10 discuss business matters with reference
10 tho contemplated partnership. Tho other
talk was only incidental, talked TO Adams
about McCann's business first All remember
is that told him l had heard
that no and Mccain were going Into
business together and suggested something
about Harlem possibly being a better loo alton
than Sixth avenue Ito didn't agree with me-
and said. BY the way do YOU know any OF
tho Aldermen Adams said he did, and told
him Of what rumors had heard in circulation
about this tSO.OUO fund, and asked him II he
knew anything about 1t. He said he didn't. but
that may DO no could find out said wished
~ he could find out anything about 1t he'd let
me know. Then we went on to talk OF business
again. Mccain knew OF all this because
talked 1t over with him a'terward. That Ia all
the talk that Adams and had on that occa-
Bion."
Mr.. Choate then read moro OF McCann's testi-
mony giving in greater detail tho cifcum-
stances as to tho money and asked:
What as to tho truth OF that"
1T is positively untrue" said MIR. croker
again in the same calm and even tone
o-Ths whole ofiti A.--Yos, sir .,
Did you in any way directly or indirectly rerre,
yor was to nnd Il io would 70 reliable man 70 hold
al All A Nh u,
n u1Did you have such purpose in the interview A.
6r any other s.csB: ,9o. 81 s,afyng Nj,
Ginc; II was at his solicitation ana his interest
Mr.. Choate read tho details Of McCann's ties.
fimony as TO the appearance OF tho money rs
SsEed : WV
you'd not d. SScAn.. the board Of Aldermen were
sn 6 y yon maRo any Of one whether
Adams YOU'D DO satisfactory to anybody for any pur:
1SSseHrn substance or effect, A,-No sir --..--
ToTths purpose Of holding this money is that A
SMe Snn says that you told him that Adams know
Sow hun in order 70 5 5SoSh i iSsP T%s ".
coupis Of Republican Aldermen aud That might talk
Tho om SSSS or OF any one S
CT.E and We Wefo anxious 10 ind out how ali the Al
dermen stood.
The oreanizstIon, Tammany Hall. We did
all we could 10 stop the use Of money in the
matter. Thompson did all he could to hold his
biy have meant that he would have The office
for six years longer. II there was $4,000 up
to secure that end We wanted to show 1t up"
vas your candidate for Commissioner Of Public Works
- tn "w ash So your SSndidats' A-No SIR
Q.-or the candidate of the organizations A-No.
ever hear of hi. neip. SHndidHts At S
"r. @ p G mana hat y rn ' AP'F' along win
G-Bu he never was eaniid2,S 49, Nj; 81
and Wsnds 10 Or any other Alderman about Adams
about this matter at ALL A-No. SIR
JOHN KELLY WAS AT THE HELM THEN.
Mccain says again that you told him that
You wanted to get these two Aldermen espe-
cialy: now. did you have any conversation
with him about Adams except as to the bust
II told Nc Cam about the story Of the $4,000
corruption fund. and he told me that Adams
knew some Aldermen, and afterwnrd | told
Adams about the reports and asked hi Do
you know anything about itY and when be
said he didn't switched off on to business
How did YOU hear of the 100000"
1T was general rumor."
Did Inmmany Hall have any candidate Tor
Commissioner ofPublio Works.
Yes sir"
'h'YY: YES s shaHEA'er'
Who was the Tammany candidate2"
, We're there other Tammary candidates ?"
II have heard others SO called; but was ut
that time visiting Mr: Kelly. who was sick,
every afternoon at his house, and he gave me
the candidate he wanted"
Mr.. Kelly was SICK them"
But he was still acting as boss?" Laughter.l
Wsll; we DID everything We could to carry
THE TEN CENTS A BARREL ASEcpoTE.
Mr.. Choate then read McCanns story that
Croker had told him that Croker was TO get
ten cents on every barrel OF cement used by
the city in the new aIueduct,, provided q
certain sort OF cement was adopted. and asked
the witness l. it was true; - .oi. NJ cu.,
calmly. and without manifestnG tho slightest
int crest In tho matter.
You had no such conversation =
Ana did not tell him in any wav or init
ten cents n barrel on cement or any other pay
ment or advantage OF any sort from any action
q any one WHO might DO Commissioner OF
No, sir. never told him anything OF the
and more disintereSted in his manner, and In
tho pauses between the Questions he swung
IN Tie WnsS9 FAXED at the CELL
FLosslE CRoKER's $4,000.
Now | come to another matter. You re-
member that Mr.. Grant stood as godfather
for your daughter when she was baptlzed'"
DO you remember TINT he gave her any
presents after he became Sheriff."
do"
How much did he give her."
1t was $4,000 the first time and afterward
second So COO"
And that was all?"
" Yes, positively"
Were those presents made In pursuance OF
any understanding between you and Mr.
Grant. or in the carrying out Of any arrange
mont made between you and him prior TO his
election AZ, Sheriff +"
No, sir"
Did you know anything whatever about
those presents before they were given to your
daughter"
No sir. I had not the slightest inkllnG OF
ehem not the least expectation Of them."
WAS there any understanding in any shape |
pr form OF any personal advantage to accrue |
10 you through Mr. Grants becoming Sheriff." |
mo. In any shape.Or FORM"
How was the money In these giftS?"
" II was In bills"
How was Ii presented"
MIR. Grant came to my house"
Who were PRESENT.
We'll, Mrs. Croker, the child, myself and all |
the family"
Who took tho money!"
Mrs Croker"
Where did she put it,"
In the safe, ! believe"