The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1890-12-11
TALK WITH PARNELL.
No Reconciliation of the Irish
Leaders is Now Possible.
THE SEIZURE OF UNITED IRELAND
By Parnell and its Capture from Hlm-The
Leaders Reception in Dublin-The
Anti-ParnelIite Manifesto.

Especial to THE Observation-Disclosures Dispatch
LONDON, Dec 10.-The correspondent OF
the World had long interview with Par
nell just before the latter's departure for
Dublin. In the course of the conversation,
Parnen said; 81 did not know OF Mr.
Gladstone's letter TO Mr. Morley until just
after my reelection as chairman. Five
days before the verdict l had seen MIR.
Morley, who conversed with NE as to the
effect the divorce case would have upon my
position, but asked no questions as to what
the result would be, although l had no
reason to suppose from what he said he
was in any ignorance OF the probable re-
suit. The position that took up from the
moment when divorce proceedings were
commenced late last year was that l would
neither instruct counsel or solicitor on my
behalf, that the defense and its nature were
not Tor me but for the other party con-
cerned il the suit. L adhered consistently
to this line throughout. l may state that l
was always ready to go into the witness
box II desired to do So"
Did you ever authorize Michael Davitt
or anybody else to say that when the di
vorce case came into court you could and
would clear away the charges in which
your name was involved!"
Certainly not" replied Parnell with
regard to Davitt's statemenst, as cabled to
America, they are absolutely untrue. l
have given Dayitt no authority to speak, or
anybody else. [ have spoken TO very few
people on the subject
! What do you consider is the duty of
! lriShmen in America in this crisis!'
| Il consider said Mr.. Parnell earnestly,
''that it is the duty of Irishmen in America
as well as in Ireland at this crisis TO as
! sist me in maintaining the integrity and in
/ dependence Of the Irish party. That in
| tegrity could not and would not have been
impaired by any mere alliance with the
Liberal party, but matters for some months
past have progressed further than q mere
| alliance. Something approaching to a
fusion has been ana is now taking place
This is what it is necessary for me TO
! check and prevent and for this | ask the
| help OF our race throughout the world. 1t
might have been difficult to draw the line
between d self-respecting alliance and a
dangerous fusion, but that line has now
been clearly marked. 1t was passed by
Mr.. Glads tone enc month ago when he
suggested through the mouth of Mr.. Morley
for my consideration whether the pledges
which made 70 my constituents in Cork
in 1850 were any longer binding, and
whether it would be possible for me or
Office in his next administration. The sub
sequent attempt of Mr.. Gladstone's party
TO Interfere with the management Of the
Irish party. aG9 10 veto the election of
their leaders has further revealed the
method of this accomplished strateeist and
has shown NE fully and to all partially the
danger upon the brink of which we stood
ana will stand.n
DO you believe the reconciliation of
your divided party still possible:"
mo. The matter has now proceeded sc
far that it is utterly impossible to bring
about any solution until a general election
when the Irish constituents will have to
decide. l don't think that result will be in
furious to the cause of Ireland. On the
contrary l believe that distinct advan-
tage has been gained. Had Mr.. Gladstone
, been allowed to proceed on his course OF
ambiguity and concealment. he " ould un
doubtedly have offered a bid after the
next general election which either would
= not have been at all acceptable for Ireland
or which would have been accepted with
great reluctance"
would the return of Messrs Dillon and
O'Brier mend matters!''
mot now," Mr.. Parnell replied" L
Messrs Dillon and O'Brlen had returned
sooner, that is to say, before the secession
of so many members of the Irish party OIL
Saturday night, the matter might have
Deen ADJUSTED, Out III is now TOO late. Mr.
, Gladstone's Destination on the one hant
+ and the ignorance and inexperience of 81
many of the Irish party on the other
have produced a catastrophe. was at al
times willing to compromise, as my accept
ance of Mr.. Clancy's amendment proves
an acceptance which would have involved
my retirement had Mr.. Gladstone given III
assurance the Irish party required. Messrs
| Dillon and O'Brien, instead of taking Vi
no of hot
: me from the irst and so lost the opportu
, nifty of successful Intervention. In an,
case their intervention would now be to-
4 lateD