The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1890-10-28
Stanley interviewed on Bartte-
lots Diaries and Letters.
AN ATMOSPHERE OF MYSTERY
Peryades What Transpired at the Yambuya
Camp-Some Serious destinations
Against the Major.


est Africa, about Major Barttelot,'' said the
explorer, 81 have not one word to retract.
What | said then / say now, and what l |
say is the truth, yet but only part OF the
truth; the rest | have withheld out of |
regard for his family, particularly the ven
cradle father of the dead man whose |
brother is now attacking me and who may |
rouse me to declare to the world thai which |
know but of which he has no concep- |
ton.
yes" continued Stanley with que err
look in his eyes, there is a atmosphere |
of mystery pervading what transpired in
the Yambuya camp which L should have
wished toleave unprecedented. | know the |
real facts and know them to be black l |
know why Barttelot lay idle at Yambuba |
eleven months instead of carrying out his |
instructions and advancing, however,
slowly. | know why Barttelot was |
why my personal effects were sent |
away SO that on returning [ found |
myself reduced to nakedness. | know |
in short, all the terrible details of what
happened between the day when we
marched forward, believing the rear guard
in splendid condition, anxious to follow us,
and that other day when marching back
hideous with death and disease. All that L
know; but out of pity for the dead and re-
spect for the living, it has thus far seemed
right to hold my peace and not to use
language to this indignant but most ill ad-
vised brother which would do justice to
Major Barttlelot.n
But surely Mr.. Stanley" said the Cor
respondent these painful facts most ulti-
mately come out, for, take it, you are not
the only person in possession Of them.
Benny, for instance, must know the whole
truth, does he not?"
"Certainly he does" was the answer.
"And Ward also!'
| "Certainly."
| ''And Troupe
Undoubtedly. The real trurh," said
Stanley gravely, twill, suppose, in the
end be known for the truth is hard to con-
ceal. This much, however, can say, that
1t would never have come out by any in
discretion on my part nor would L now
contemplate it's publication but for the
wantOn attacks upon me made by the very
man who did he but know it, has the best
possible motive for restraining the ardor
Of his tongue and pen.n
This certainly was strong language, and
| MIR. Stanley was asked If he had material
proofs calculated to bear out this insinua-
tion. "Proofs!" was the reply. II have a
pile of documents calculated, if made
public - Here Stanley checked himself,
as if realizing that he was about to say too
much, and looking sharply over his spec
tacles merely added, Eyes, L have quite
sufficient proofs of all l have insinuated"
May ask what is the nature of these
proofs."
Mr.. Stanley thought moment and then
answered. 1.-The written reports made by
Messrs. Benny and Ward are alone quite
sufficient. These reports are now in my
possession"
'But surely the reports you speak of
were published in your Dook.n
sYou are right said he, land yet you
are wrong. 1t is true that In Darkest
Africa contains reports by Ward and
Bonny, but they are not complete for the
same reasons mentioned. Imade extensive
provisions and suppressed certain portions,
and it is precisely in these portions, re-
vised or suppressed, that the whole my stery
of the Yambuya camp is unravelled. [ have
often wondered whether thoughtful per-
son reading my chapter entitled 1.-THE Sad
Story of the Rear Column has not been
struck by the fact that much could be read
between the lines and that the mostinterest-
ing part of this same story is that which is
left untold. AT any rate such is the case.
When / came to this most trying portion of
/ the book, found myself in dilemma. II
+ l related the facts as they TRANSFERRED
should blacken the memory of q mistaken
) but valiant officer and bring disgrace upon
an honored name. If, on the other hand,
made but scant reference to the history OF
the rear column, the public would object
so as a way out of the difficulty l told as
much as | dared, and trusted no meddling
hand would insist on tearing away the
veil which [, moved by a kindly sorrow
had cast over this chapter of ugly events.
''May l ask whether you have not in view
1 of the attackssin Barttelots book, decided t.
abandon your purpose of suppressing thos
d portions Of the reports which were compro
y misings"
: s"rhat is question 1 must have time t.
S consider. In the first place l shall wal
until all these gentlemen have finished any
thing they may propose writing about tn
expedition. Iken, when | have read thei
f books, l shall make up my mind as to N,
n duty"
Leaving this part of the discussion, tn
:. correspondent asked Mr.. Stanley 10 ex
u plain what he meant by saying. Major Bart
:: telot had been killed and not murdered
y ''That is another point upon which viii
~ not speak freely at present. was the re
~ ply. This much, however, will say:
~ the man who shot Major Barttelot wer
~ put on his trial for murder in Englant
!, i under the English law and before an Eng
u lsh jury, there is not a fair minded man il
u this country who would find him guilty
v
in Bonny's report, where he makes refer
ence to the majors death. Mr. Bonn
b writes: THE major then pushed aside som
10 of the Manyuema and passed through ther
toward the woman who was beating tn
% drum and singing and ordered her 10 de
y sst. just then shot was fired through
J. loophole in the opposite hut by Sanga, til
A. woman's husband. The major fell dead
Now" said Mr.. Stanley, bear in min'
that where | have printed pushed asid
e. some Manyuema and ordered her to dt
b. sist,' the original manuscript has oesn de
IN cidedly altered. Appeal to your imagine
= ton and try to supply what really hap
> pened. Remember, Sanga was not d slav,
l. but great warrior and chief OF his tribe
10 Think what you would do yourse
l. if you saw your wife in sim
10 lar position. There, with the clew
have given you, now don't believe you ca
go far astray.
IT must admit knew from the start tn;
th Major Barttelot was thoroughly impra
m ticable man. His brother officers in EN-
I'd land knew this also, but were careful
keep their knowledge from me- and Bartt
lot came 10 me warmly recommends
When | left him in charge Of the YambuJ
pt camp told MIN plainly it was only in vie
70 Of his rank in the English army that gay
him the highest position, instead of accort
al ing it to one of the moro experiences
officers. took great care, however, to il
press on Barttelot the Importance of CO
sulting these officers whenever an emer,
at ency should arise. This he did not do. N
r. did the officers insist upon having the
20 opinions listened to. Instead of workil
heart and soul and all together to suppo