The morning call., 1890-10-01
Carlisle Makes a Long Speech in Opposition
to the Measure.
Plumb, PettisreW and Paddock Vote in the
... 5. Negative With the Democrats.
F. F. ... .." House Proceedings, E.. E.
!, Special to THE MoRSISe CALI


mittee OH Irrigation. and the Reclamation
Of Arid Lands through: the: present Congress
was agreed to-. :. i. .s:s.
+ The Deficiency Bill, appropriating s1O,3lB
for the compensation; Of members, was
passed. i:
"A motion to reconsider was made by Nor
gan: = =. :: r.. :: -.
:: The conference report on the Tariff Bill
was taken up, and Carlisle addressed the
. Senate. He would not, he said. attempt to
discuss the economic: theory of the bill. 1t
was now about to pass entirely from the
hands of the Senate aud beyond its con-
troll, and discussion of the question could
not be undertaken without neglecting the
last opportunity to state, as accurately
as possible, what the man provis-
ion of the measure was, and what
would be its probable effect on tax
alton. twas not his purpose to attempt to
state the effect of the measure on the public
revenue, because it would be impossible to
doso with any degree of accuracy. but he
could state approximately whatits effect on
taxation would be. No member of the FL
nance Committee had ventured. during the
tariff debate: to express an opinion as to
what the effectof the bill would be on the
revenues of the Government except the Sena-
tor from iowa, Allison, who, in the course
of his speech on the expenditures of ihe
Government, reviewed the subject TO some
extent, but that:was before the conference
Seport was made.
Carlisle asserted that the bill as it now
StoGd, excepting sugar and molasses, re-
moved from the free lStand placed on the
dutiable list more than it took from the duti-
able list and placed on the free list. He also
asserted that the bill would reduce the rev.
enues and increase taxation. Unless all his
calculations were at fault .the average rate
of duty under this conference bill and the
I. administrative bill on dutiable PARTICLES would
be 60 per cent, instead of 45 Is per cent under
the existing law. :: =: I.
. Carlisle went on Ito give figures as to the
: increased taxation Under: the conference
bill, in order to compensate for the enor-
nous increase Of taxation. The tax of two
: cents a pound, amounting TO s5,S00000. was
to be taken off tobacco. The removal of
that tax would relieve no nan anu be Dene-
fetal 10 nobody except the manufacturers
and retailers Of tobacco. Coming TO the ques-
~ = tho HN,.-LS. on spgar he 81 id il would
amount, on the basfsSf the present prodpc-
ton, 20 between S7,0C0,000 and SS000 600 q
year. This was the first time in the history
of the country that it was proposed to pay Il
bounty to the domestic producer; but no
part of the bounty, lie asserted, would be
paid to the grower of beet or sorghum or
cane ;'every dollar OF it would go to the sugar
manufacturer The producer would not re-
ceive a higher price for his produce, nor
would the consumer receive any benefit
from the bounty, for the bounty-paid sugar
would sell in the markets al the same price
precisely as the duty-paid refined sugar
coming from other countries. Courts had in
variably held that no State Legislature
could authorize a county or municipality to
impose taxes for the purpose of encourag-
::ing manufacturers or any other industrial
pursuits. If States could not do it with un-
limited power of taxing, how, Carlisle
asked, could the General Government do it ?
=. Referring to the reciprocity amendment
heasaidit was the proposition TO confde to
the judgment. or caprice. of the President
alone the determination, not merely of GER
tam facts defined in the law, but of the re-
suits and effects OF those facts and circum-
stances. The amendment was not reciproc-
ity; it was retaliation, pure: and simple.
The proposition was one To retaliate ON the
people Of ths United States by imposing a
duty OF 10 cents ii pound ON tea, 3 cents
pound on coffee and from So TO 50 per cent
on sugar, unless China, Japan, Brazil and
the cUIiSumers. in the United States had no
contr0l. The amendment was a mere politi-
cal deNlce- to appease as far as possible, the
+ Indignation of: public sentiment and check
T f0rthe tinre being the rising cloud Of oppO-
: sitieh: tO~the extreme policy of protection.
ALLISON criticized several of Carisle's
statements and denied their accuracy. lie
{AllisoDl Uttered from Carlisle absolutely as
to the effect of the bill, and gave it as his be-
liefthat it would reduce the revenues to an
amount between S40,9Oo,00O and S45,000,000
Coming. down TO The sugar question he said
hehad conyerSed with planters of Louisiana,
who have come to Washington, and there
was not one of them who did not say the
proposed bounty would stimulate immensely
the product of sugar IN Louisiana and be a
great coon to them. But now the Senator
from Louisiana (GibSon( charged the con-
ferrees with discriminating. against that in
dustry. If it were true tbat all the Louisi-
ana sugar-planterS Spuraed the bounty and
denounced 1t, and declared it unconstitu-
tiOual, they might find q Congress that would
take them at their word. He believed the
bill was, on the whole, a fair bill to every
section OF the country as a protective meas
ure, and he did not believe its general effect
would be to operate harshly on one section
oil the country as against another section.
he thought some OF the duiies-many of
them-were too high, and had said so more
than once on the floor of the Senate. He
1t proved beneficial. as he believed it would,
* would settle the question of tariff for
many years.
Gray spoke briefly, and Aldrlch closed the
debate.
The Senate then proceeded to vote on the
conference report Paddock, Pettigrew aud
Plumb (Republicans) voted in the negative.
Following is the vote:
Ayes-Aldrich, Allen, Allison, Blair,
Cameron, Casey, Chandler, Cullom, Dawes,
k...., l.. oil
ley, Hoar, ingalls,, Jones of Nevada, McAii-
Ian, MandersoD, Mitchell, Moody, Pierce,
Flatt, Power. Sanders, Sawyer, Sherman,
Spooner, Stewart, Stockbridge, Wilson of
Iowa, Wolcott-33.
Noes Barbour, Bate, Blackburn, Blod-
quit. Daniel. German, Gray, Hampton
Harris. Hearst. Kenna, Paddock, Pasco,
Pettigrew, Plumb, Hugh, Ransom, Reagan,
Voorhees,, Waltnall, Wilson Of Maryland
-27.
The following pairs were announced:
Teller and Berry. Dolph and Brown. Far
well and Payne, Quay and Falkner, Morrill,
and Vance, Davis and Gibson, Hiscock and
Jones Of Arkansas, Higgins and Mcpherson,
Squire and George, Turpie and NaShburD,
Vest and Stanford. In addition Call aud
Eustis were paired with Pettigrew and Pad
dock, who voted in the negative.
So the conference report was agreed to,
and now the Tariff Bill needs only the sigma
lures of the presiding officers of both houses
and the President of the United States.
The House concurrent resolution to cor
rect the enrolment Of the Tariff Bill was
agreed to.
The conference report on the Signal Ser
vice Bill was agreed to.
The House bill to enable the Postmaster
General to test at small towns and villages
the practicabillty OF a free-delivery system
was passed also the House bill to set apart
a certain tract OF land in California as
Forest Reservation. Adjourned.
THE HOUSE.