The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-09-27
Afternoon Session.

Afternoon Session.
The House re-assembled at 40 and
proceeded TO the Order of the Day.
Second reading of Bill No. AZ, relating
to the Cabinet.
Noble Muller moved the bill be indie
finitely postponed.
Rep. Richard moved it pass.
The motion to indefinitely postpone
was lost.
Minister Peterson moved to strike out |
the words, "and in the performance of all |
their duties the advice of the majority OF |
| the Cabinet shall prevail" That means /
that if the Acknowledgement wants to |
| buy five cents worth of postage stamps |
| he must get the advice of the Cabinet.
| Rep. Wilcox moved the bill be |
laid on the table. 1t was evidently
meant for the late Cabinet and ought to
go the same way.
Noble Widemann said some such law
as this was needed. The laws and con-
stitution use the phrase by and with the
consent Of the Cabinet. The law ex-
plains that that shall mean a majority.
| One man does not count.
Minister Peterson-The hon. Noble
thinks this doesn't apply to buying post
age stamps. But if he will look at it he
will see that it does. 1t SAYS all their
duties.
Noble Horrer thought the Attorney
General exaggerated the matter. This
did not apply to such trifies.
Rep. Rosa offered an amenment add.
ing to the words, call their Duties" the
words, sin Cabinet council +" Where one
Minister differs from the others he
should resign and not block their work.
The Cabinet keep minutes of their meet
ings which can always be referred to.
THIS House has Witnessed the misfor-
tune of the absence of such law from
the statute book.
Rep. kapaehaole moved the consider
alton of the bill be deferred until the
majority of the committee have re-
ported.
Rep. Rosa was opposed to any post
ponement The bill was very impor-
tant and ought to be considered to-day.
The committee could not throw any fur
Their light on it.
Rep. Bush said the Act embodied a
useful idea, but it needed reference to a
committee. Reference had been made
! to one member blocking the wheels Of
government. That one Minister i'm his
opinion had saved the country. The
Cabinet which had gone out had estab-
lished a very bad precedent. Their
, treaty would have damaged the lndepen-
dence of the country. Ii this Act should
pass, there would be dissension in the
, Cabinet There was dissension now
That was shown by the way they voted
Noble Isenberg-In every civilized
, country the gentleman who disagrees
with the Cabinet resigns.
Rep. Bush-Aren't they all gentle
manly enough to resign?
Noble Isenberg-No, generally, they
do not, as anyone can know who reads
the newspaper. As for the treaty, there
was no troop clause. | do not favor
that clause though / do not know
: what we should have done without the
t troops in 1874. l favor u treaty with the
United states, tariff or no t.r,if I have
no objection to this bill going to COM
) mitee. am for the bill because it fur
: nishes a rule bv which the Cabinet can
| be guided. When Prince Bismarck
left the Cabinet the other day the Min
] lister of the Interior and other Ministers
: remained, and it often occurs in France.
Noble Baldwin protested against Rep.
Bush's representing the troop clause as
, part of the treaty. The evidence was
8 that it was no part of the treaty and the
treaty without it was good one, and
2 would have been beneficial to the coun-
try. This bill he favored and SO he be-
leved did the majority OF the House.
The bill furnished rule for cases in
which the Cabinet disagreed. In gen
z eral such thing would not be neces-
sary. A Minister who could not agree
| with his colleagues, if he were a man,
: would resign.
0 Rep. Bush agreed with Mobiles Bald
\ win and Isenberg that something of this
s kind was necessary, but the bill ought
s to define executive acts. Gibson thought
the simplest details of the Interior De-
e partment were such acts. When there
t is difference of opinion in the Cabinet
e there is generally an appeal to the coun-
t try. The treaty gave away the indepen-
h dence OF the country because it could
n not be revoked.
Rep. kahookano favored asking the
t other members of the Judiciary Com
mittee if they intended to report on this
e bill. Ii not, the House might as well
n go on with it.
: Reps. Kanealii and White spoke.
Rep. Waipuilani saw no need of wait.
: ing for the majority OF the judiciary
+ Committee, as they had all spoken or
i thought.
Noble Macfarlane asked what the
: article was doing in the treaty allowing
the United States to supervise the For
e eign office.
n Noble Widemann said one might live
e 500 years before the same thing as hap
e pened with the last ministry happens
s again. You could not pass a law which
c would hit every case. But that was nc
d reason for not passing this law.
Rep. K. w. Wilcox said the Cabinet
e had no sense OF honor, was simply oc
cupied with filling its own pockets will
:. money, and had no regard to the interest:
n CT the people.
d Rep. Richard rose to point OF order.
S The matter before the House was bill AZ
e Rep. Rosa offered another amendment
: adding to the title OF the bill the word:
n sin Cabinet Council" This would OBJ
l. viate The principal objection made tt
n (Rep K. w. Wilcox-Noho MALE !!
d Thank you. saved your life. In regard
e to the word Executive" the constitution