The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-09-26

whole. But I don, think the time has
come when this Government can support |
two large steam lines. We had semi /
service once, but IL did not paw. |
trade is increasing, the Oceanic |
;. ;. Co. does not put on another vessel, |
because il will not pay. | honestly do |
not think that the time has come when |
steam lines can paw Most of our freight |
is slow, and il pays the planters better |
to send by sailing vessel than TO pay the |
steamers 50 a ton. There are great
many fruits which could be sent away,
but 1t takes time TO start them. Some
OF them good many years. do not
doubt that eventually pretty good trade
could be worked up. When something
has been done, it will be time enough TO
talk about substituting line of steamers
l have a great deal of doubt whether we
can buy any cheaper In San Diego. The
general rule is that you can buy better
and cheaper in large centers, where
competition is brisk. | have vet to
learn that things are raised any more
cheaply around San Diego than around
San Francisco. do not think this coun-
try can afford TO subsidize two lines. The
business of the country does not warrant
it. We have good service now. The
result, fear, will be if this bill passes
that we will get two inferior services in
stead OF one good one.
Rep. Brown-As q rule / am in favor
of substituting any new enterprise, and If
l considered the finances of the Govern
ment were in a condition to stand ii, |
should vote for subsidy. But in no
case would | vote for the bill as il now
stands. | therefore move as an amend
ment to section / that the Minister of
Interior be authorized in his discretion
to contract, ETC.. by and with the consent
of the majority of the Cabinet.
Rep. Nawahi objected to the amend
ment because it gave the Minister the
power to kill the bill That is Just what
| wished to avoid. This bill is drafted
like the other bills. As to this bill being
the last straw, think the camel's back
would have broken long ago if there had
been any break in it. Ii 1 thought this
bill would only benefit a few people in
Hilo, would not favor it, but il will be
general benefit Ii the Minister of the
Interior is so troubled about the cancels
back, he had better tighten it by moving
to strike out the subsidy to the D. S. S.
Co., and by taking slice off their own
salaries in the interests of this unhappy
camel Of ours.
Noble Widemann said the member
from Hilo had made him a present Of an
interest in the Union Feed Co. He
feared 1t would not be forthcoming, He
had no interest. No one denied that
this line would be some benefit to Hilo,
but he denied that it would directly
benefit any other place. To be Just we
| would have to substitute steam lines to
every district on the group and even to
Niihau. San Diego would be more
likely to send oranges to Hilo, than Hilo
to San Diego.
Rep. White did not like the way the
House behaved. There was DISPOSE
ton to favor Honolulu exclusively. 1t
strikes me the people here worship.
One tends to the Hereafter and him
they only worship occasionally. The
other is the Almighty Dollar, and il
seems to me they worship that god a
| good deal more than they do the one in
Heaven. The Minister of Finance has
looked into the Government safe and
found there's no more money in it.
| Noble Kauhane said no one would
| deny the benefit of steam lines. Thi,
company however was different from
any. They do not establish line frs
and show what they can do, but ask fol
a subsidy first. That is not the way thu
o. S. S. Co. did. Let them show what
they can do. l therefore move to strike
out the subsidy.
Noble Macfarlane could see no posi-
bility of developing an important trade
between Hilo and San Diego. He was
not surprised at Noble Horner's atti
tude, as he has been on his feet to de
fend every extravagant item ranging
from $100,0 up. In the discussion o
finances he has been watching the spigo
while water was running from the bung
He had gwen very glowing descrip
ton of the 10000 people in San Diego
waiting to eat the Hilo bananas. Yor
would think they were all on the beacf
waiting for the Hilo steamer to come in
There is no trade between Hilo and Sar
Diego that is worth developing at this
time, in consideration of the amount
asked for. 1t was not true that products
could be landed cheaper iron San Diego
than from San Francisco Their frs
shipload of hay was stored for two
months on the Esplanade. 1t was of ar
inferior quality and could not compete
with the shipments by sailing vesse
from San Francisco. l would like t.
ask the member from Hilo and tn,
Noble from Hamakua what they propos,
to load 1900 ton ship with. Up t.
date they have not succeeded in obtain
ing single contract for freight.
Rep. Nawahi asked if the Noble woult
vote for the bill if he would tell him?
Noble Macfarlane-Yes,i if am con
WINGED there will be freight for the yes
| sci.
Rep. Nawahi said all the merchant
of Hilo had promised to furnish freight
Noble Macfarlane said they nigh
pick up some stray bean corn or driet
apples, but he meant sugar freights
Rep Nawahi said perhaps the hon
Noble had relatives in the hay and feet
business.
Noble Macfarlane said that cut n,
figure in the discussion. The country
could not afford to pay the subsidy.
Noble J. NJ Horner wished to address
himself to Noble Baldwin who had on,
of the most logical minds here. ZAP
plause). He would not dispute wha
the Noble said, 1t was not safe to do that
but he wished to. refer to his argumen
that this line was premature. Would
natives and others 60 to planting
there was no steamer to take their pro
ducts? When the steamer came they
might plant. When they saw tn,
steamer pushing its bows in ever,
month they would have faith aud energy
and would go to planting. But if W,
wait till there are lots of lemons, oranges
and bananas before We put on tn,
steamers we'll never do anything. On,
word more. The hon. Noble (Nobl
Macfarlane) has mentioned my name
pretty frequently and not respectfully
Will l plead guilty to not being an oil
fogy. am an old man but not an oil,
fogy, and the Young man will neye