The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-10-14
Afternoon Session.


Rep. Kanealii was in favor OF the reso
luton bling laid on the table TO be con.
sidered with the Appropriation Bill. As
the Tahiti subsidy has been passed some
thing should be done for this line which
is already established.
| Rep. K. W.Wilcox thought they ought
to give the matter fair discussion.
Rep. Rickard-When the bill was up
| voted against the subsidy of $4S, 900.
The resolution is separate and indie
| pendent measure from the bill. The
$4S, 900 was not reduced or any amend
ments offered. As it was the question OF
$4,000 and not the subsidy, therefore
the resolution cannot come under Rule
81. With reasonable subsidy the COM
pany might put on other steamers, and
thus increase business and make a mar
ket for the benefit of small land owners.
Noble Parker-I would like to have
the ruling of the President.
President Walker-I do not think it
necessary for any more debate on the
matter. The remarks Of the members
for Hilo, Molokai and Hamakua were
very nice and ingenious. There was
some excuse for the member for Hama
kua tRIckardl, as he is not an old Legis-
lator. But the members for Hilo Ma
wahD and Molokai (Paehaole) ought to
know the rules Of this House. The reso-
luton before the House is for a subsidy
to steamship line, and the bill which
was indefinitely postponed had precisely
the same object. 1t makes no difference
whether it was 81 or $50. There is no
way Of reaching the matter only by re-
pealing Rule 81 Of the House, and that
would be bad precedent, besides being
contrary to all parliamentary rules.
rule the resolution out OF order
Rep. Nawahi appealed from the ruling
OF the President. He claimed these were
two different matters. Only few DAYS
ago the House passed an item of $4,000
for the Volcano road, which was illegal,
and now the same members who voted
for that, say We must not 90 contrary to
the rules Of the House. The ruling OF
the President was wrong.
Rep. Kauhi thought the Presidents
ruling was correct. The resolution has
exactly the same object as the bill. Ali
appropriations for Substituting steamship
lines should be BY law and not reso-
luton.
Rep Paehaole supported the appeal
Noble Muller moved the previous ques-
ton. Carried
Rep. Nawahi said he was under the |
this House was composed Of 1
members with a sense Of fair-nindedness.
We voted for the Oceanic subsidy when 4
they asked Us, but to-day when We ask
them to vote for this they hang their
heads down, and act in an underfIand 4
way
Rep. Paehaole moved the ayes and
noes be called. Carried.
The ruling Of the President was sus-
tanned by the following vote.
Ayes Cummins, q. Brown, Wide
mann, Berger, Aacfzrlane, Muller, Hind,
Harsden, Baldwin, Cornwell, Andersen,
Eon Tempsky, g. n Wilcox, Isenberg,
Lucas, Kauhi, Rice-l7.
Noes-PaTker, b. w. Wilcox. NaxaIii.
Baker, A. Homer, Rickard, Kahookano,
ITaipuiisni, Apiki, Paehaole, Kanezlii,
Minister Peterson was excused IRON
voting, ss be had an honest doubt about
he ruling, and did not wish % set up
MS legislative experience against that Of
he President
Mobiles Puz, Mccarthy. Phillips, Kau-
name, j. ii. Homer and Kznoz we're also.
excused, being doubtful
The President stated that the rulingof
he chair was sustained, and the resolu-
ion vas not before the House