New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-05-17
THE RULES FOR REVISION.
DIR. PATTON ATTACKS THEN AS INJURIOUS
TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
THE VOTE OF THE PRESBYTERIES-A VIGOROUS
DEBATE-DR. VAN DYKE REPLYING

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saratoga, May l6.-The secular and religious press
have kept the public so well informed in regard TO the
discussions and vote Of PresbyteIcs in reference 10
the Revision Overture that little surprise was mani
tested today when the stated clerk announced that
133 presbyteries favored revision " the historic
Creed sixtysix opposed it, declined 10 vote and
as many had neglected TO answer the overture The
following is the brief report submitted by Dr. Roberts,
the stated clerk, and the acton thereon lie saIu
would report to the Assembly that the answers
TO the overture concerning revision >'alt uV"l
10 the Presbyterics by tae last General Assembly
In my hands. They snow tidl To- lTts ~ ttII,s
have answered the overture in the Affirmative sINN SIX
have answered in tAe negative seven fNSty
tehes have declined TO answer either ~ the ahri''t
tive in the negative, and eight Pfe>lyiclc, haNe
not yet reported. ] would sugs ~ tF'I inc N''',
bly, appoint committee H. consider TN answers
the disposition to be made OF TIE overture ~ ny han',
from the PrcsbytcTc- to hi, Assembly, Oh the
4 member move The adoption OF tAe recon-
meldation Of the stated clerk. 400.
Dr. Crosby-Thcrc are overtures connected with th,
matter that have come mp to the stated clerk, ana
tho,e would naturally 20 to tn Committee on Biz and
that tie whole matter should be referred to taal com
The stated Cerk-That has not been the usage Of
4 membcr-,Iy reason for making the motion wa,
var .ty: scarcely any ircsbyt,ries have put Their
repNe, in the same language. IL VII require vas,
u do thi, in -ucr way that the General Assembly,
Will lie able get clear understanding Of what The
wishes Of th: lrt,Oytenas are. The committee on
Bill, and overtime, VIII have many mailer' coming
before them requiring a. ir cons dcritl ~ ana %
seems IL M that there ought O. he one committee
which viii dcvot, il, whole Inc 10 tti- matter 50 htt
IL after careful cxamna;iga Of these r,plcs let
'n'D Dr. Nan DyKc"Mr Moderator. / nope iLa' Dr.
oro{, amendpe4 'o VIII i not rG;' a. cde, e' IN
bly, to appoint special committee 10 consider such
reports On spectre ,ubiect, those now before NJ.
A. ha, well been ad by the brother the Other side
of the house these reports, though ubo'hll"y
Of lanSuage tht Il WI iclgire fGod dgai Oh ,l"
and diligence 10 digest ihrn, and Il VIII be every
WAY fair 10 appoint -pecii committee VINO can a.
Their undivided attention - that >ubJect-thc most
eT,l Assembly ! u.iuk the suggestion Of the stated
clerk, with The concurrence Of The chairman OF me
Committee on BIZ, and Ovcrtufc--Whc i under
stand he has giVcn-or-h 10 control our judgment
Z" 'ne Tr"'by-I would beg leave to withdraw my
amendment. ! made ny motion out OF courtesy IL
the Committee on Bills ana OVeitmcs but since
9croc T. hi, disposition If the matter, Why beg
Leave u withdraw nay amendment
Houry Day would Ike 10 near mat resolution
aeau, 10 Know the exact pGrpoT Of IT,. r... a..
The stated Cic.I trcaf.Es - Resolved, mat Inc
p0in,mcnt OF committee % canvass TIE answer, "a
the overture concerning rcv4'lpn' Inc ica"lI'i on
applies simply 10 the answers. NOt 10 inc "d
uoT nr 2H,riing-rerc are two distinct thing, before
rs one is The revision. and the other is the Over
W. Ili T" lc bc fate ~ rbose oyeruresl win no
th0se overtu,cS 20 directly 10 the special conmlllee
The MOdcraior-hcs. sir The question now j.
answers h. The oyeItmes concerning revision. Al
in favor II that motion viii say ave Carried. go
" HSe Modcsator-Of how many shall this committee
consist. ..t. ~ ,,,.o =,
be appointed By ;Ac Moderator. make that as q
motion. Carried. 49,. ..t,,
The stated Clsrl-Now, what shan ne oon e. ~l,i
tbe overture, I'm my possession. - which reference
has been made . -, ,.., .,.,
beir,p over lrc~ no matter what they are. tr i'l
wonld require that they be sent 70 the Committee
Eills and GVcrturf1. -. A.. =. q.
The Stated Clerl-Thl' was my idea bui tle chaii
man % the committee wanted the Assembly u Seti
that question. n. ;n ,h -,
Mr. Kempshall-l move You, SIR. tit' WIN the r.
port from Inc Committee on Methods o. Anrhdlh
HE Constitution the Hon. Judge Wilson.
member Of the committee Tut not member o. IN
Assembly b. Granted the privilege - the floor II u
wishes 10 sneak dc>i~, e, that MAKE ~
motion Of ny own accord. without any picvpit, Know
edge on Judge VIII on'5 part that proposed 10 max
H.
4 Member second II.
M Junkn-I would Ike 70 make an amendment
That would seem - throw upna judge Wilson IN
burden OF presenting himself here and maNnS
speech / woud like 60 have 1t IN the form Of
formal request. because some Of the members Of TN