The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1890-05-07
GOOD EDITOR SHEPARD Apo1JGEs TIM
Reporter Crawford,s Version.

Especial to THE HERALD-Examlner Disnatcb !
NEW YORK, May 6.-Fred G. Crawford The
reporter who wrote the famous interview in the
World will have a long statement in next
weeks Frank Leslie'S in which the following
will occur: Grover Cleveland has. I believe
seen tit to deny certain portions of an inter
view with him published the World April II.
He declares he never used the violent and in
temperate language ascribed to him in speak
ing OF Mr. Dana. | assert on my honor that
MI. Cleveland was correctly reported in the in
fterv1ew in question. He was not misrepresented
IN any particular. did not write out all that
Nil Cleveland said, but what did write was a
faithful ana accurate report of his conversation
Much of what was omitted was simply un11rint
able in any respectable Journal
we ware alone together for nearly three
quarters OF an hour and Mr.. Cleveland talked
freely and emphatically. Mr.. Cleveland spoke
In his usual deliberate manner and appeared in
perfectly normal condition began by inforninr
hlip OF the object of my call and told him that
the Uortd would be glad to publish any state
ment he cared to make. He said he had not
seen the Sun article. He never read the paper
he said, and would no5 touch it with a pair of
tongs, and gave him verbally the gist Of it.
Mr. Cleveland Strengthened himself nm ana
made use OF profane expression rejecting on
the chastity OF Mr.. Dana's mother This was
omitted from the published interview Mr.
Cleveland then launched out into i vigorous de-
nunclauon OF the editor of the SIM He said he
was blackguard, d vagabond and a dastardlv
scoundrcl. He also characterized him as a.
'senile old liar and thief with thesadditjon of q
profane prefix. Several other profanc words
figured in Mr.. Cleyelands remarks. bur none of
them, of course, were published After the
conversation had gone on fifteen or twenty
minutes Mr. Cleveland asked me what was
gong to publish and told him the substance
OF What he had said. He drew pencil from
his pocket, and picking up n pad said: I will
write you something TO guide YOU Here it is:
In this he is mistaken. He must be his own
judge OF social decencieS and proprieties. I am
not sure that he should at his time of life and in
his apparently peculiar mental condition be
molcsted IN his amusement
Before Mr.. Cleveland took up a pencil to
write anything he had said in substance much
of the matter contained in the following para
graph
Mr.. Cleveland then alluded to his wife. and said
MIR. Dana had not confined his attack to himself.
He made war on women us well as men. Mr..
Cleveland said strictly: The - old thief.
DANA has not hesitated to drag my wife's name
into his Scurr1louS attacks. man who makes
war on woman is infamous
. In the course OF the latter rart of the CONVEX
satlon told Mr.. Cleveland should like to use
moro OF his talk than he had written out. re-
ferred especially to the point he made about the
attacks on Mrs. Cleveland. He gave me per-
mission to do so. He said: I have no objection
Mr.. Cleveland spoke with considerable feel
ing In referring to the unwarranted use that
had been made OF Mrs. Cleveland's name by the