The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-08-26
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Respectfully submitted,

The report was lard on the table to be
considered with the Appropriation Bill.
Rep. kalua read an Act to continue
the subsidy to the steamship line be-
tween Honolulu and San Francisco.
Under suspension of the rules the bill
was read second time by title.
Rep. Kalus moved that the bill pass
to engrossment. 1t is almost word for
word like the present law.
Minister Brown did not like TO see
bills appropriating large sums of money
rushed through the House in this way
| move this bill be referred to the Com
mittee on Finance.
Noble Baldwin thought this was
simple bill which was favored by every
one, and he would move it pass to en-
grossment.
Noble j. NJ. Horner-Although am
in favor of public improvement, do not
believe in going too fast. The motion
made by the Minister suits me. When
this subsidy was granted some years ago
1t was limited or argued that the business
would be profitable without any subsidy
and now We don't know but that is the
case. So far as know, this company
has not asked for any franchise for the
future. Ii the United States passes it's
subsidy bills ours will not be needed,
and | move it lay over till the later part
of the session.
Noble Burchardt called attention to
the fact that the present arrangements
are Tar from perfect or convenient, and
he would like to know what arrange
ments the Oceanic Steamship Co. pro-
posed to make.
Noble Philips thought it well to call
the attention of the House to the
fact that this bill calls not tor SIS. 1000 as
was passed in the Appropriation Bill but
for S72, 900 for the biennial period.
Rep. Kalua said the hon. member
misunderstood the bill.
Noble Phillips said the House did Aot
know what the bill did mean. There
was no need OF the bill anyway
Noble Isenberg-As one OF the COM
mittee to which the item was referred
said that the committee had recon-
mended that the item pass. He did not
understand why the bill was rushed in
so fast. l would therefore move the bill
be referred to the Cabinet. Let them
suit it to the condition of the subsidy.
Rep. Brown favored reference to the
Finance Committee The statement of
Noble Phillips is perfectly correct. |
had to 90 to the table to see what the
bill was. 1t appropriates $4,000. We
don't want to give that when we are get
ting the service now for $4,000. We
should be very careful before we pass
this bill to engrossment. We have two
other steamship lines asking for subsi-
dies. We must look into these things
carefully before we do anything, L
would vote to give the Oceanic Steam
ship Co. the preference over any other.
We know what the company is. MANY
1f the stockholders have large interests
here.
Noble Widemann-I am afraid that
Noble Phillips and the last speaker are
The bill is the same as the
asst law, but see no reason in rushing
he bill through and favor reference to a
committee.
Minister Brown-It isn't as if any
hardship would be caused if this bill
Toes not pass. The company are draw
ng their subsidy every month.
Noble Baldwin, have no objection
o Its going to a committee. The bill
imply continues the old law. 1t places
Wo steamers as the upward limit, but
We are not bound to pay for more than
me, as at present.
Rep. Kapaehaole favored reference to
select committee because the Finance
committee was overburdened with work
low.
Rep. Bush favored passing the bill
low. 1t had been passed upon session
liter session. The law enabled the
dinistry to pay for two round trips If it
Vanted to. Even after the Act was passed
hey could still require the Oceanic
Co. to make certain arrange
nents.
Rep: Kalua said the bill was the same
$ nad been passed during successive
essions as the members will see by
urnlng back to the session laws. The
ompany cannot get any more than we
'pProprate. If we only appropriate
4o 200 that is all they can get. Anyone
'ho thinks otherwise must be out of his
enses. l think we ought to pass the
III without wasting any more time.
hep: Brown-This bill is a precise
,opy OF the law of 1886, and the House
nen ,, appropriated $4,000 and it was
II drawn. If this law is passed and the
.eamshlp company put on another
teaIner, II we only appropriate $4,000
ne company will have a valid claim for
z4'OOO more. | am not against grant
ng the subsidy but don't want fo see
he Government forced to pay $4,000
'hen the Legislature only intends to
ay $4,000. | have a memorandpn
ere from this company which shows
nat they have laid out about $47. 600 for
I19a,ding and unloading in this mort
nat IL amounts to is that this Govern
lent has paid for the loading and un-
'adlng and the money has gone mostly
} Hawaiians. s'o n'o'''y
;.tNs Inc oil was referred to select CON-
NOBLE Cornwell gave notice of an Act
~ prohibit keeping and breeding Of rab-
!, Noble j. NJ. Horner gave notice of a
III providing that the expenses of the
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