The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1890-09-19
THE LEGISLATURE.
EIGHTY FIRST DAY.
THURSDAY, Sept. Is.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
,nse resumed I'D 40.

NOOle WAlUTluEe SIdtSu Juat the
committee had made every effort 10
obtain information on the subject Of
this bill, ard had invited everyone
interested to be present. The com
mi,tee believed the bill to be step
in the direction Of temperance. The
issue of these licenses would tend to
prevent the excessive use of spirits.
The committee had had analyses
made, which were wrong for some
inexplicable reason. The beer aver
aged only about Al per cent alco-
holic strength instead of s or 9,
Bass Ale only 8 or 3, instead Of 10
per cent as reported.
Rep. Knudsen knew very we'll
that no one there would want any
thing to harm the country. Noble
Marsden wanted the good of the
country as much rs he did but no
more. The only difference was that
the hon. Noble looked to whiskey
glasses, and he to water glasses.
The first bill provided for 10 saloons
in Honolulu and three for each judi
cial district. That was about hun
dred. Noble Marsden's bill pro-
vided for making the number UNI
limited. They had license in his
district of Waimea (Kauai) and
every Saturday night it was bowling
| and people were lying drunk on the
roadside. A petition was sent to
the Minister of the Interior, in &C.
cordance with which he took away
the license. Since then there was
no more bowling, nobody lying dead
drunk on the road. Under this bill
there would be ten saloons in Wal
mea, for it was rich and had five
| plantations. They did not want
any. A gentlemen went up there
| from Honolulu with petition to re-
new the saloon license, but he could
not get signatures TO it. Perhaps
the people of Honolulu wanted sa-
looms but he doubted ii. If they
took the vote of all the people, and
| allowed the women to vote, he did
not think Honolulu would have any
saloons. There was nothing good
to be seen in saloon-You would
see some tipsy, some half tipsy,
some excited. You put down your
Kalakaua dollar and got fire water
in return. Beer was not good; get
English beer right from home, and
it was not good, it was mixed with
stuff to tickle your throat. He did
not believe in Offering cheap licenses
to sell beer and wine. That was not
the way to make people temperate.
You don't stop stealing by stealing,
or any other crime by commission
The bill should be indefinitely post.
poned.
Noble Marsden fully agreed witt
all that the hon. members had sale
about the evils Of intemperance. HI
considered that Noble Horner made
powerful argument in behalf o.
this bill. Neither of the gentlemen
opposing it had said anything abou
the illicit traffic going on under
their noses. Rep. Knudsen did no
see them, but his men got drunk al
the same.
Rep. PaehaOle moved, and it wa
carried, that the bill be considered
section by section.
Noble Walbridge. on the first sec
ton being read, moved to amend i
by inserting "9" instead of "15'
as the alcoholic strength of beer
and ales. The committee had mad
a mistake in the analyses submitte,
to them, but, on very good author
ity, he was informed that an Ameri
can beer was on the market Of 4
per cent, and English Basis ale Q
8 TO 81 per cent.
Noble Muller moved that the ties
be the same as in the original bill,
per cent in Honolulu and 3 per Ger
in the outer districts.
Noble Baldwin moved that tn
section be indefinitely postponed
He believed that if it could
strictly carried out it would carr
> much Of the benefits claimed by il
advocates. But he did not believ
it could be enforced strictly. Unds
the present law, with saloon license
at $1,000, the saloons in the countr
districts ignored the legal cond
tions. That was considered as goo
license law when it WAS framed 6
any that could be made and yet
was not enforced. There was lille
selling going on now. Men wei
, seen entering Chinese coffee shoE
and coming out drunk, yet it WI
seldom there was conviction
How would it be, then, when me
went into these beer saloons and &,
drunk on "rooster" brandy, such {
that Noble Marsden showed II
House? They could claim they wei
made drunk on wine and beer, ant
there being no anti-screen law, n,
. thing could be proved to the col
trary. This bill by its cheap licen'
fee Of $3.50 would enable saloons
be opened in places that could nj
afford them under a thOusand-dolll
license. He was opposed TO be,
and wine saloons anyway. The
we're a school for children TO acquil
. taste for harder drinks. The hol
(. Noble (Marsden) or any other men
Der, he was sure, would not want
see their children going into snf
places. All who had an aloha Il
The native Ilawaiians should vo
against this bill