New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-03-09

of the Revolution state Our ohcers
are committed to that principle because Is .ss
framed both 0! these constitutions we aoop'cu '"
constitutions merely because they asked us TO- ue sooS
believing bndy and Loyalty that the CONSTITUTIONS
right with such Endorsement. There can DC no u"
that the principle referred Is the correct one o
soetetIes in any one State viii find no more H"o'i "
euu from for membership than one WILL IL ucic arc
two societies people will not know whieh 10 Jo'h' a.
hcrmore II one society should already De III cNs''o' Wv
second one would make its appearance III p"'"0 o" -,
,har NJ the peace AMI while II woud get sonc sull''
I'D a., tho ,nblic estimation, be merely thc Noih "i
dlsappointcd men, who had more at hcai' u'i' o.i -
sonal ends than the upbuiding OF great P''io.'0 ono
useful society The largest membership Is p0s'IOo Wv
largest influence and the successful carrying ou' u '
mic nnrposcs Of our order. only when thcie Is ohc
society In each and no more. Anu 'c' "us
This society and its officers are c0nlnVeu 'o-Sc P"4
=, ono society in each State 1t IL now sooehy p'oPosu
that this society shall lend itself to movement Io
.o 4, ,ventvlyc States Of the Union sccoiu
society when in each of those States theie Is ae'' "
existence one society descendants OF the e'ou'O"
Now Mr. President there is no emolumcnt cohhec'ea
NTH membership I'm the Of the Revolution mere Is o
san ,ocs in our order there is money 10 be mado
out Of H. The society is purely historical anu Pauos
7, Is intended not only to commemorate inc oceu' "
,ocinles Of the men Of the Revolution but to coHnehu
70 the American people the principles On when oui
=, nonuar government founded. ask the members "
mis- society to consider Will we be true 10 our
"a American citizens and gentlemen; VIII VIC pro"oyO
tho objects for which these societies have been hS'u
- we give encouragement to q campaign Tor creating w
oe,etes in the several States! know what your ahs"e'
necessarily be- o,. .,.. .oroo,i
Az matters now stand have in the hed TWO ore"ni'
cations claiming National authority Inc 0" " ~
bership Is the same in each How.
Mr. President and brothers, os saa oeloie' nav
becn SO situated during the past year d. ~ "' 49,
sides Of unfortunate controversy. am All POSI-
tn saw that there is no obstacle Whatever " ~"
oo,,, and harmonious union of the Ne~-lorA society
with the great siserhood OF state societies N"'n nav"
already been formed, or TO this society oc0ulH"e " ~
ssterhood the commanding position 70 winch ' ~
and emineace entitlc it, except just one uins w
s,rorences as 10 the proper basis for membership 10
reasonable difference about the direction VIII uei'y
unity a particle. am speaking uehocfd'eN oil"
that the only obstacle which VIII delay i0r no'o ~..'
few weeks the contamination when we al o"s" "
d.s,e IL the assumption by this society OF pson'Ni
authority over the other States IL the o'cr S'"S "eo
willing to assent superior au'Aof'V io' 'o
should oppose Organization oaseu upon p'.".fo
un.Amercan die other States VIII not assent " ~
,,o,a is no reason why they should the news
paper press OF the Cnitea S'''s 49,
never approve such q proposition. ana our sooieN
is absolutely certain to be publicly denouhcc" III every
st,ts Of the country should 60 Oh and rcasser an
uhortv offensive to every instinct Of true American anu
TO the spirit play Not only Is such course ." ~
mart foolish it Is en- rely unnecessary. ANY p".
cal man will admit that the good Of inc o3uer nse -
what is I'm view should advance along tho lines
~ tho least resistance not where is certain 10
he greatest Sooner later, Mr. President this society
must reccde gracefully from Its assumption oi p"i'H
/
I need no. dwell upon the waste OF enort Time anu
o,cv ,nvoyed in carving rival societies in the sew
oral states Why should follow plan which involves
double expense for rent records, printing cV'' anu ~
purchase by one of societies OF costly osaees "nn
in time must be thrown away need not Nell on tnls
Among practical reference TO the point IS sumceh.
Mr.. President. 1 think my proposition for special
committee best solution OF this question
There are many matters which cannot, deicately and
properly be discussed in open session This committee
can 90 into all the involved freely and have no
doubt that It's abors result in the lasting good OF our
great order.
SUPPORTING Mr.. HALL
After few general remarks by Horace Barnard
General Horatio c. King made trenchant speech
in support of MY. Halls substitute General
King said in part
The sense Of meeting should be ascertaned to see
whether it is in OF having two distinct societies or
whether should be society Of the Sons OF the
Revolution In favor OF the paper as iaf as IL
goes. 1t Is step In the direction OF unity 4htle1u
Of having confederation we are going to have one
indssoluble union. Further than this am opposed 10
the paper IL cOnemplatcs having sef:es Of State soc
Giles Mr.. Halls proposition Is an excellent one
see no reason why this is not now The opportunity 70
bring this body OF the OF the Revolution into one
II there is an opportunity for Us to act together
without sacrificing dignity; we can SHAKE hanas
over little difficulty not come together ana nave
ono grand society! Now IL the time. and let the COM
mttec this question OF having one society not '"o
REMARKS BY OTHER sPEAKEEs
General Schuyler Hamilton said that he had
no feeling in this affair. yet he thought that every
son of Revolutionary sire ought to be permitted
TO join whatever society he pleased There were
| 200. 900 surviving veterans OF our late war, ycU
only 400 900 belonged to the Grand Army. where
were the remaining 500. 900 They were generally
found in other veteran organizations, rlVa Organl-
cations some might call them, yet all got along
tremendously, and without pickering or trouble:
WHY couldn't the Sons of the Revolution OF all
orders do the same? -
Colonel Floyd Clarkson and William Crosby
followed with short speeches, alter which NJ
Genet asked General King if he was sure that tnc
Sons of the American Revolution were really de
scended from soldiers Of the Revolutionary war
Suppose he asked, that lodge of the Knights OF
Labor came here and asked for applcat on
daughter Would they be taken into fellowship
without inquiry?
General King thought Mr.. Genet would better
not be too critical as ne had been reading over
the little book" containing the names OF the mem
bers of the Sons of the Revolution, and had 1onnd
that some of them had gotten IN by mighty
TIGHT squeeze Niore laughter. ~
Charles II. Woodruff spoke against MI HANS
amendments He read long letter from Luclus
p Demine president of the National society OF
the Sons of the American Revolution. with ffesl-
dent Tallmadgc's reply thereto. These letters PIC
sertcd i'm clear languagc the whole question at
issue Mr. Woodruff rcasscrted the parental au-
thority Of the Ncw-York society. ana vigorously
opposed the substitute. IT,. .
After speeches made by John G. Tomlinson, Jr.;
and brief running debate between General