The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-09-19
Afternoon Session.

mittee had made every effort 10 obtain
information on the subject OF this bill,
and had invited everyone interested to
be present. The committee believed
the bill 10 be a step in the direction OF
temperance. The issue OF these licenses
would tend to prevent the excessive use
of spirits. The committee had had an
alyses made, which were for some mex
plicable reason. The beer averaged only
about Al per cent alcoholic strength
instead of or 8, Bass Ale only or 9,
instead OF 10 per cent as reported.
Rep knudsen-I know very we'll that
no one here would want anything to
harm the country. Noble Marsden
wants the good of the country as much
as / do but not more. The only differ
ence is he looks to whiskey glasses, and
I TO water glasses II the bill only al
lowed three saloons to each judicial dis
trict that would be hundred. But
| Noble Marsden is not satisfied with a
| hundred he wants an unlimited number.
| We don't want any liquor saloon in
| Waimea, we are not fools enough. In
| Honolulu people may want it but we do
| not. Is there any one OF the fifty-two
gentlemen here will say drinking is
good for the people? Ii you want to stop
nuisance, don't stop it with another
nuisance. If you want TO stop murder
! you don't commit murder to stop it
! There is no trade in the world so unfair
as the liquor trade. 1t is mean nasty
business. Is beer straight from Eng
land, good? No, it is stuffed full OF
things to tickle your throat with. Does
any one want his son or daughter to go
into liquor saloon? 1t is not place We
| e IL III II,
| yes, very respectable, but a kind OF res
probability We don't like to see. there
fore move this bill No. II A be indefn-
itely postponed.
Noble Marsden-In all that has been
said about the evils of liquor drinking
fully agree. Noble Horner made a more
| powerful speech for this bill than
could Illicit liquor selling is going on
all around him on his own plantation,
but he does not speak of that. 1t is
better to fill up on beer than rooster gin.
If the people who pounded that woman
had drunk beer, they would have been
asleep and the woman would not have
been hurt.
The motion to indefinitely postpone
was lost and the bill was considered sec
ton by section.
Section / was read.
Noble Walbridge moved in line four
the word fifteen be changed to nine. An
ANALYSIS of one of the best American
beers averages about 4 LILO per cent and
Bass Ale about 8 go per cent.
Noble Muller thought the plan of the
original bill limiting the number of Ii
censes was better than the committees
bill. He would move it be not more
than six in Honolulu and three in every
other judicial district.
Noble Baldwin moved the section be
indefinitely postponed. He believed that
those who supported the bill were sim
cere, and the bill might decrease liquor
drinking, if it were carried out, but bis
experience convinced him that it would
not be carried out. He wished to look
at the matter from practical stand
point. The present law is well drawn,
and as good license law as possible,
but what has been the effect. The bust.
ness is carried on as though there were
no limitations on it. Even in cases oil
bold and open violation convictions were
not obtained. feel certain that these
saloons will sell hard liquor and that
this rooster stuff will be sold there. We
know very well that people 60 into soda
water shops kept by Chinese, and come
out drunk. How much easier will it be for
these saloons to sell liquors than for the
coffee shops. There is no anti-screen
law. The practical result will be that
licenses outside of Honolulu will be beer
and wine licenses, and that every kind
of LIQUOR will be sold. If the police out,
side would do their duty, if we had an
efficient detective force, it would be diff
ferent. l object to a saloon in itself even
if only beer or wine are sold. The
saloon is a place which draws the young.
1t is social cornwall place: sort of a
school to educate the young in the use of
liquor. Some one may say it is better to
bring children up to the use of light
wines, etc, than liquor. But they will
not stop there. In this country, where
there is so much of the rooster article, il
simply gives them a taste for harder
liquor. | do not take much stock in the
argument that the illicit selling will be
stopped. 1t will 60 on just the same.
hope that all lovers of the Hawaiian
race who as we know are easily led, will
vote against this bill.
Noble Marsden-It is not expected
that the whole country will be flooded
with licenses for the sale of light wines
The present liquor law does not contain
sheriff to 90 in without search warrant
and if he finds bottle of liquor on the
place the dealer forfeits thousand dol
lars and loses his license. No one will
dare to keep liquor on the premises with
such a penalty hanging over him. /
move the section pass.
Rep. Brown did not favor the bill as ii
stands. He would amend by providing
that only three licenses could be issued
for each district, and that Honolulu,
Waikiki and Hilo be exempt. 1t is not
lust to the retail dealers here who pay
81 ,000 A large part of their trade is in
beers and light wines. Ii it should be OBJ.
iected that the whole OF Honolulu should
not be excluded, let it be within a GER
tain radius, say of one or two miles.
Noble kauhane was not in favor OF the
BILL He had been instructed by his
constituents not to vote for any measure
of the kind. | move to amend so that
the Minister shall upon the petition OF
| l 900 residents OF district issue a IL
cense. He did not know why saloon
should be thrust upon the people of a
district if they do not want it. The mat
ter was under pretty good control in his
district and they had peace and quiet
ness there in consequence.
Rep. White asked whether Hackfeld
& Co. hadn't 10 900 cases OF Monogram
gin in the Custom House now?
The President-You have no right to
| ask any such question.
Rep. White had listened with great
| pleasure to Noble Horner's speech this
morning. 1t far exceeded Hellenback.
Ii he himself possessed such gifts he
would turn temperance lecturer. He
| had at one time used a good deal OF