St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1890-08-06

IdICI WuCU IuO uClCSQUlOlis AiNNONN ~
Senator Davis, filed into his otflce.
Secretary Noble shook hands with each
member of the delegation, motioned
them to take seats, and when they were
all firmly anchored. Senator Davis gave
a little cough and said:
sThe gentlemen who we're here the
other day and presented their primary
argument in favor of recession OF
your order for the recount of the city or
st. Paul are before you to-day, Mr. Sec
retary, to state the result OF their laDorS
during the past few days.
Secretary Noble-Well, you are chair
man of the committee?
Senator Davis-No, sir, L am not a
member of the committee. am merely
here to represent my constituents.
Secretary Noble-I will say to you In
advance that the department comedies
that the maps and atlas to which allu-
sion was made the other day are con-
ceded to be valueless for the purposes
for which they were intended.
Mr.. Porter-There will be no discus
sion necessary concerning that atlas.
1t is conceded to be very imperfect.
Mr.. Driscoll-We appear before you
this morning, Mr.. Secretary, to report
the result of our examination OF the
charges made by the superintendent
concerning alleged frauds in the st.
Paul census recently taken. Repre-
senting that committee as chairman,
/ beg leave to ask to read the resolu-
tionS authorizing us to come beIore
you.
Mr.. Driscoll then read the resolutions.
Acted in Good Faith.
Secretary Noble-I want to say oyou,
gentlemen, that my recent order was
issued to correct the work of the officers
of my department. If you will consider
the communication upon which l acted
YOU will see that there was no disposi-
tion upon my part or upon the part OF
the superintendent of the census to lay
the burden Of fraud upon st. Paul.
Mr.. Driscoll-I would ask you, Mr..
Secretary, to listen to brief review OF
our work by Mr.. Cochran, of our city.
Mr.. Cochran then proceeded to relate
in detail all those things which have
been published in the GLOBE concern
ing the work of Mr.. Smith and the
members of the committee in explain
ing away the alleged duplication in the
various districts in st. Paul. In
the midst of his statement Mr.. Cochran
referred to the recent city directory,
and Secretary Noble asked who pre-
pared that directory. The answer was
that it was prepared by Mr.. Smith.
Secretary Noble then asked when it
was prepared, that is, whether
before or after the taking of the recent
census. Concerning the explanation
presented by Mr.. Cochran of the census
of the Pioneer Press building. Secre-
tary Noble said: "Out of the ninety
one enumerated iu that building, you
admit the fact that twenty-four reside
outside of the building. You must not
ask me to jump to the conclusion that
the other people do reside in the build
ing simply because you have been un-
able to find them enumerated else
where. You cannot set up a claim OF
that kind.
The secretary also asked a number of
questions concerning the enumeration
of ten in each family, and it was admit
ted by the delegation that these things
Could Not BE Explained
except by a Remuneration of these
districts. Mr.. Cochran's argument was
a very long one, and it closed with an
admission that tnine of the districts
ought by all means for the honorOf the
city to be re-enumerated, and very
carefully, too.'' This admission
alone seemed to Secretary Noble
and to the superintendent of the census
an admitting almost all of the entire
case. Mr.. Cochran, however, claimed
that the supervisor of the census OF st.
Paul has a right to go into the business
buildings and neumerate people there.
He said that this matter concerning the
place where a man sleeps being the
only possible place for enumeration
not communicated to the census officials
until very recently. Secretary Noble
then quoted from the st. Paul GLOBE,
and the News, particularly the editorial
in the GLOBE, which claimed that the
Globe building.neverh had been and lsnol
now lodging house, that the enume-
rator knew it and Mr.. Smith knew 1t.
Capt. Castle-I wish to state that those
editorials in St. Paul were based upou
misinformation. We did not come here
| to combat newspaper report, and the
secretary must know that all such, re-
ports are usually sensational and un
| founded. | hope that the secretary will
not give such matters any consideration
in the discussion of this question.
Mr.. Smith-The GLOBE accuses me
| of gross negligence when | did not eX
! anime the schedules at all. l acted or
the advice of Mr.. Boudinot. He said
was not expected to examine the Sched
uleS in person.
Secretary Noble then said: ''Did yor
not understand that your supervisory
| position for the census was as lmpOrtan
as the work of a supervisor OF a dlrec
| tory? When you were preparing you
| directory would you have accepted th'
Pioneer Press building as lodging
house, or the St. Paul GLOBE as lodg
ing house? Is it not a tact that yol
knew that these buildings
Were Not Lodging Houses,
and that you did not so enumerate then
in your directory? Does it not appea
to you that you did better work for tn,
directory than you did for the Unitel
| States government? Do you not thinl
| that at the very least you did neglec
YOUR duty? Why did you not look int
the matter as carefully for the census a
YOU did for the directory?
Mr.. Smith replied that he never ha(
seen the schedules at all. He quoted
telegram received by him from Supt
Porter declining to give him additiona
assistance, and telling him that tn
schedules be sent to Washington, AM
that they could be examined here.
Mr.. Driscoll-When did you frs
know that there were ninety-one enunl
Grated in the Pioneer Press building?
Mr.. Smith, never saw that schedul
OIL knew anything about it until it wa
presen ted here in Washington.
Secretary Noble-Did you never knoN
that it was your duty to revise am
| cnnnrUiSa these Sch1dnInSp
| Supt. Porter-Did you never read tn
census law?
uMr. Smith, presumed that the order
of the superintendent superseded tn
law.
Porter-My kilograms could not hav
been supposed to supersede the Law
and you should have known that.
Senator Davis-Mr. Secretary, yo
must remember that Mr.. Smith wa
supervisor of a district 10000 mile
square, and it would be physically in
possible for him or any other one ma
to examine all the schedules.
Mr.. Smith-Supt. Porter told me b
telegram that l would not have to e1
anime, but should send schedules on
Washington for examination.
Supt. Porter-When did you send i
the first schedule?
Mr.. Smith-Thev shOuld have bee