The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1890-10-09
THE LEGISLATURE.
NINETY SEVENTH DAY.
WEDNESDAY, Oct. &.
AFTERNOON SESSION.


sldered with the Appropriation Bill.
After having passed the Tahiti line
subsidy, it would not look well TO
refuse this one. However, this was
not the time to discuss the merits of
the proposal.
Rep. Il. w. Wilcox was in favor
Of laying the resolution on the table
for consideration with the Appropri-
alton Bill. He hoped those who
were trying to defeat it on point of
order would withdraw their ohjec-
tons.
Rep. Richard considered that Tie
matter settled with the subsidy bill
was the amount of $4,000 propos-
ed. AS no amendments to the
amount were offered for the reduce
tion of the subsidy, the rule did not
apply against the resolution for
smaller amount. He voted against
the bill on account of the amount,
and he was not alone in doing so.
He would have voted for the bill
with a reasonable subsidy. The
amount in the resolution might he
reduced. If it was only 5000 or
$500 "Trip, the subsidy might re-
suit in securing steamer, which
would be of great benefit to the
small landholders of Hawaii.
Noble Parker thought it was un-
necessary To go into argument. He
would move that the President rule
on the point of order.
Noble Baldwin took the floor.
President Walker said there was
no need of further discussion. The
remarks of the hon. members for
HilO and llamakua were very in
| genious. lie could excuse The hon.
member for Hamakua, as he was not
an old legislator. But the hon.
member for Hilo knew the rule per-
fsctly we'll, which made this resolu-
ton out of order. The bill
proposed a subsidy to the
San Diego line, and the resolu-
tion was similar in this respect. 1t
mattered not that the amount of
subsidy was different, the bill and
the resolution were identical in mat
ter. The only way this resolution
could he made in order was by re-
pealing Rule 81. This would be u
very bad precedent and unparlia
mentary. The resolution was en-
tireIy out of order.
Rep. Nawahi appealed from tho
decision of the chair. The Other
day the House did all illegal act il
voting $4,000 to certain persons
for advances on the Volcano road
They thought nothing Of condonins
a violation of law in that case, bu
in this comparatively unimportan
matter rule of the House was al
lowed to block useful legislation. 4
subsidy of $4,000, as in the bill
and one of $24, 200, as in the rcso
luton, were distinct questions, ant
he thought the ruling of the Chat
was wrong.
Rep. Kauhi thought the ruling O.
the President was correct. The oil
and the resolution were exactly thu
same in object. A steamer subsidy
should be by bill, otherwise VIVA
authority would the Minister hav
for making contract. 1t was diff
ferent from aid granted to coun
try road, in which the case the Mn
lister had charge of the matter al
ready.
Rep. Paehaole felt inclined to sup
port the appeal. The appropriation
asked in the bill and that in tn
resolution were entirely different.
Noble Horner contcnded that if
was only the amount that was oh
jectionable in the bill, there wa
ample opportunity for members t.
move amendments in that respect
1t was the same matter in bot
cases. He moved the previous ques
ton. Carried.
Rep. Nawahi closed the debate
The House could make rules for il
guidance, but those rules must no
conflict with the Constitution. Art
Gle 13 provided that laws must nc
be made for the benefit of a class
These subsidy questions were bein
decided by the House in way t
benefit class, namely, the peopl
of Honolulu. Hilo had just as niue
right to steam line subsidies as liz
nOlulu.
Noble Widemann called attentio
to certain words in Hawaiian use
by the hon. member for Hilo, whic
he considered were out of place.
The interpreter explained To Il
House that the hon. member f
Ililo had characterized the action {
D members opposing the San Dieg
subsidy as unfair and nder-hande'
The ayes and noes were called c
the ruling of the Chair, when Il
!. Chair was sustained on the followiT
vote:
Ayes - Ministers Cummins al
Brown; Mobiles Widemann, Berge
. Macfarlane, Muller, Hind, Marsde
Baldwin, Cornwell, Anderson, VI
rempsky, Wilcox and lsenberG
'. Reps. Lucas, Kauhi and Rice.-l
II Noes-Noble Parker; Reps.
IS w. Wilcox, Nawahi, Baker, !
lIorner, Richard, Kahookano, WI
70 puilani, Apiki, Paehaole, Kanealj
and Ilalstead,--l2.
Minister Peterson, on being ca
j. cd, said he had M honest doubt {
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