The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-07-12


Noble McCarthy-I think the COM
munication is a little premature. The
bill OF which have given notice is not
yet before the House, and when it is 1t
will be referred TO committee, and this
lady can appear before that committee II
she wishes to and that meeting can be
public. | am therefore in favor oil Rep.
Browns motion.
Noble Widemann-I have absolutely
| no objection to such meeting as the
| honorable Noble for Maui proposes, but
| that is not what this petition asks for
| and not the matter before the House at
| all.
| Noble Macfariane-I voted against
| tabling the resolution because | thought
it not respectful. | think Noble Bald
wins proposition is good solution.
do not think there is any precedent for
any one addressing the House as body.
But / think there is no objection to such
meeting as Mr.. Baldwin suggests, and
| / favor his motion.
Rep. Brown think a statement that
the House does not care to be addressed
as body is all that can be expected.
Noble Muller moved previous question.
Carried.
The amendment of Noble Baldwin was
lost The original motion carried.
Rep. Robt Wilcox-Whereas Caesar
Celso Moreno was appointed as Minister
Plenipotentiary for this Government and
was entrusted with the placing OF Ha-
waiian youths in certain schools, and has
never been paid for his services and
legitimate expenses.
Rep. Brown move reference to COM
mittee on Foreign Affairs.
r -
Finance committee. This is a claim
which has been presented against every
Government since 1880 and has been
thoroughly investigated at least half a
dozen times and always adversely re-
ported upon.
Noble Widemann-I sustain motion OF
Minister of Finance. l will further state
that L have some personal knowledge oil
this Italian claim. His Majesty and the
Attorney-General at that time met
Moreno in Italy and some allowance was
made him at that time, and the German
consul, old Capt. Hackfeld, then told me
that every dollar was paid.
Rep Robt. Wilcox made some remarks
which were not translated.
Minister 9rown-The honorable mem
Der states that said it was never to be
paid. never said anything of the kline
but merely that it had been adversely
reported upon.
Rep. Bush-I support the motion o
! Rep. Brown. 1t is not merely matter
, of finance but OF justice. He has some
claim; S. 900 was paid him for the
> travelling expenses of himself and tire,
e or four boys with him. We want tx
know whether man has just claim
, He is saying the King is this, and thu
King is that, all over the world. Thu
Finance committee has its hands full
: and the Foreign Affairs committee ha
o nothing to do.
Noble Widemann-It was in 1881 tina
n transaction occurred to which l alluded
l agree with the honorable member tina
u if we owe the man anything we ought t.
: pay it. But / do not agree in thinkin
t that $4,000 is not an ample allowanc
r for taking three boys TO Italy. hav
:, had some experience myself. When
went abroad and stayed three months
It did not spend so much.
Rep. r. Wilcox--There is a good dea
: of difference between the honorable
Mobiles travelling and that of Moren
i who went as Minister Plenipotentiary
J.. There seems to be disposition in tn
+ House to follow Mr.. Gibson's policy il
g this matter and if it does / shall leav
my seat in this House.
Noble Macfarane-On behalf of tn
y Finance committee l would state tina
d we already have all we can attend to
O and / do not think we ought to attend
this. | move reference to Special com
II mittee.
l. Minister Brown accept that amend
Is ment.
O Motion to refer to a Select committe
was carried.
/ Rep. Nawahi-Resolved that, for tn
3. purpose of encouraging steam line
l. $4S 900 be inserted in the Appropriate
= bill for a steam line between San Diego
Hilo and Honolulu.
Minister Brown-The Appropriate
70 bill already contains that item and
s move to lay the resolution on table to b
l. considered with the Appropriation bill
If Rep. kalua moves reference to SeleC
committee.
If Rep. Brown moves reference to CON
n mittee on Commerce.
e Referred to committee on Commerce
7. Rep. Rickard-Resolved that the SUI
of 81, 900 be inserted in the Appropria
oi ton bill for repairs to landing at Ka
Of waihae. Laid on table to be considere
o with the Appropriation bill. Also, re
solved that $4,000 be inserted in tn
Ii Appropriation bill for new jail and fenc
It at Honokaa. Laid on table to be cor
sidered with the Appropriation bill.
= Bep. Richard reads first time an Ac
g to amend the law relating to public in
l. struction.
IS Rep. Observation-Disclosures that tin
President of the Board of Education in
= form the House within five days on tn
l. following points: (a) Number of schoo
$ teachers in the Kingdom; (b) thei
IS names and salaries; (c) number c
e teachers who have been brought fror
= abroad; Id reason for sending abroad
IS (e) names of Government teachers VIII
have been supplied with houses and tn
l. districts where they have been erected
Rep. Kalua favors reference to com
e mittee on Education.
l. Noble Isenherg-The report of tn
o Board give the names of all the teacher
and their nationalities on page 1l3 TO
i lowing. | think that these inquiries ar
not necessary.
l. Rep. Kahookano-The report does &c
y say whether they are Government
e teachers or teachers in independen
/ schools.
t. Rep. Nawahi made a number of obsel
IS yations when
= Noble Widemann rose to point of OF
IS der. | should like to know what We ar
IS listening to.
Rep. Nawahi- | was saying and d
u not think it was out of order that tn
n Board OF Education does not treat nativ
n teachers properly. They are only a
{, | lowed 81 for MASSAGE while tho whit