New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-08-20
POPERY AND PRECEDENCE
THE POSITION OF CARDINAL MANNING Avn
WHY PROTESTS AGAINST HIS CLAIM
ARE HEARD

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precedence on a Royal Commission was accoraas
to Cardinal Manning, and that it was the PrIno.
of Wales who accorded it, Sir Francis KpolIv.
the Princes secretary, wrote letter to saw :.
The Princes own name came first on the ,i.,.
after it came Cardinal Manning's, which ~.
Prince as matter of politcness. directed 70 n.
placed in that honorable position. And ono
more the spiritual liberties of England are h.
lieved to be in danger from Rome There A..
grave discussions about it in the papers, and N,
Gladstone's No Popery speech at Mr. Perks's AZ,
ner has added fuel to the fire Lord Salisbury 8,
attacked for allowing it, the Prince is ATTACHED
though very mildly, and the Cardinal himself q
attacked.
The religions objection is the formidable or.,
Cardinal Manning is pcrvert, and perverts an
not liked in this country. lie has been a ver,
active agent in the Roman Catholic pronaVana.
which, in one way another, is always aoin,
on, and does, believe, keep some people awaks
o. nights He is the avowed enemy Of the Church
Of England, which he deserted Men an oen
orally the enemies Of those whom they have h.
trayed He is not liked nor trusted by the sres,
body of English Churchmen. Mr.. Gladstone doc,
not like him, and Mr. Gladstone is a bulwark q,
the Church which at present he does not props.
to disestabsh or not 10 disestablish in England
only in Wales. In many ways and 10 many ue,
sons has Cardinal Manning made himself Oh
noxious. Roman Catholic prelate as he is M
practses the art of self-advertsement. No
sides with Socialists and strikers pushes him.
self into every dispute and TO the front Of every
agitation or Of many agtations. lie is pro
fessional philanthropist; which is some degrees
worse than a professional politician. Why
should man who is all this and something mor
be placed on a social pinnacle, and see his name
next to that of His Royal IIighness the Prince Of
Wales !? Clapham is convinced that Jesuit In
trgue is at the bottom OF it all, and the Wesleyan
I with Mr. Perks at their head, are mutterng
scandal about the Scarlet Woman.
In one point of view, il does not really matter
two straws, as Lord Salisbury says. The dominion
of Rome is net widened. The eminent persOnaga
whose names came below Cardinal Manning's have
not protested. Other eminent personages who
have him walk into dinner before then
have borne the humiliation without a murmls
II the Weseyans and the Clapham Sect he put on
one side it may he said that most persons who
have thought of the matter at all have thought
of il as matter Of etiquette. Their concern 10
not spiritual, but social But social question d
one which interests many thousands of persons
belonging to the Classes This is a country in
which the order Of precedence in society is settled
with few exceptions. The exceptions relate
mostly to foreigners TO those who, like Cardinal
Manning, have title to consideration Of
which the origin is foreign. The civilty be-
comes all the more graceful when il is not OBJ
ligatory The objection TO conceding anything to
Cardinal Manning is that he claims Difference
to which he has no recognized right; or that
Rome claims it for him.
When a foreigner is asked out 10 dinner in
London, his hostess strives To award 20 him
place in the procession from the drawing room to
the dining room at least equivalent 10 that which
he would occupy in his own country. Often il
! is higher place. A French Marquis would be
sent in before an English Marquis without ref.
erence 10 the dates of their creation or patentA
II the foreigner comes from country where titles
of nobility do not exist he is treated even better.
As he has no rank, il is supposed by pleasing
fiction, that he may he of any rank There was
a dinner at a wel-known house in London week
before last, where Mr.. Depew was a guest 1t
was banquet rather than dinner. and there
were persons OF high rank in the English Peerage
But Mr.. Depew took his hostess into dinner.
This was not on the theory that the entertainment
was given in his honor. The very graceful
American custom which recognizes the guest OF
the evening as, for the evening, the chief person
of the company, does not exist here. Nr. Depew
was regarded simply as distinguished American,
and as such his host aud hostess chose 10 give
him this precedence of pure courtesy. IL Is some
times done and sometimes not done.
In the interest of those who take literal views
il may be desirable to say expressly that 10
analogy is drawn between Cardinal Manning and
the President of the New-York Central Railroad
| have named Mr.. Depew illustratively, and nos
otherwise and / never heard that anybody haa
objected, whether in print or in private, to thf
or any other civility that has been offered hin
in London.
The Cardinal Manning question. however. con
tinues burning question. An idea had gaine'
ground that the existing Ministry might he dan'
aged by connecting them, even in this vague way,
with Rome. Lord Salisbury was written to, and
made answer that he had nothing 10 DO WIN
the assignment Of precedence To the tardIhah
Mr.. Gladstone was written 10, and he also &c.
pudiated all responsibility for the act NOT ui
these two replies had been received did II occur
the stubborn Scot who set out on this snsa1'
voyage of inquiry 10 apply to the Prince oil Mals'
The Prince as we saw, accepted frankly all 'ne
responsibility that belonged 10 him. But 'ne
idea that the Sovereign can do no wrong d. ~
this country, extended by some ultra Loyal pew.
Ia the royal family in general and is deeuea Va
particular applicability To the Heir TO the lnrON
Some of them convinced that a decision
solemn can only have been taken upon Minister'S
advice. The irrepmssbe and unquenchaoe On
George Campbell asked question in the ho'S
Of Commons, based apparently on this tne0i'
He was told by the First Lord Of the Ireasm!
that Ministers gave no advice 10 the SoVer4'
in matters of precedence except with reference
such questions might arise in their own "
partments. To whom. then. resumed the unuD
couraeed Sir George, should | address the quo
ton relating 10 Cardinal Manning Mr.. omi''
is not without dry humor of his own, ana :"
answered Sir George Campbell that he thousn' =
had better apply to the Minister in oiice AZ ~
time the Cardinals name was placed on the Wv.
mission. At this palpable hit the House lausn,.