The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-09-30
Afternoon Session.

Afternoon Session.
The House re-assembled at l 40 and
| proce eded to the Order of the Day.
Second reading of Bill No. AZ, relating
| to the Cabinet.
Noble Muller moved the bill be indie
| finitely postponed.
Rep. Richard moved it pass.
The motion to indefinitely postpone
| was lost.
Minister Peterson moved to strike out
the words, "and in the performance of all
their duties the advice of the majority of
| the Cabinet shall prevail" That means
| that if the Acknowledgement wants to
buy five cents worth of postage stamps
| he must get the advice of the Cabinet.
Rep. Wilcox moved the bill be
| laid on the table. 1t was evidently
| meant for the late Cabinet and ought to
go the same way.
Noble Widemann said some such law
as this was needed. The laws and con-
stitution use the phrase by and with the
consent of the Cabinet. The law ex-
plains that that shall mean a majority.
| One man does not count.
Minister Peterson-The hon. Noble
age stamps. But if he will look at it he
will see that it does. 1t says all their
duties.
Noble Horner thought the Attorney
| General exaggerated the matter. This
| did not apply to such trities.
Rep. Rosa offered an amenment add
| ing to the words, ''all their duties" the
words, Sin Cabinet council +" Where one
Minister differs from the others he
! should resign and not block their work.
| The Cabinet keep minutes of their meet
ings which can always be referred to.
! This House has witnessed the misfor-
tune OF the absence of such law from
! the statute book.
Rep. Kapaehaole moved the consider
alton of the bill be deferred until the
majority OF the committee have re-
ported.
Rep. Rosa was opposed to any post
| ponement. The bill was very impor-
tant and ought to be considered to-day.
The committee could not throw any fur
ther light on it.
| Rep. Bush said the Act embodied a
useful idea, but it needed reference to a
committee. Reference had been made
to one member blocking the wheels of
government That one Minister in his
opinion had saved the country. The
Cabinet which had gone out had estab-
lished a very bad precedent. Their
| treaty would have damaged the lndepen-
dence of the country. If this Act should
pass, there would be dissension in the
Cabinet There was dissension now.
| That was shown by the way they voted.
Noble Isenberg-In every civilized
country the gentleman who disagrees
with the Cabinet resigns.
Rep. Bush-Aren't they all gentle-
manly enough to resign?
| Noble Isenberg-No, generally, they
do not, as anyone can know who reads
the newspaper. As for the treaty, there
was no troop clause. L do not favor
that clause though l do not know
whatwe should have done without the
troops in 1874. l favor treaty with the
United States, tariff or no tariff. have
no objection to this bill going to COM
mitee. am for the bill because it fur
nishes rule by which the Cabinet can |
be guided. When Prince Bismarck
left the Cabinet the other day the Min
lister of the Interior and other Ministers
remained, and it often occurs in France.
Noble Baldwin protested against Rep.
Bush's representing the troop clause as
part of the treaty The evidence was
that it was no part of the treaty and the
treaty without it was a good one, and
would have been beneficial to the coun-
try This bill he favored and so he be-
lieved did the majority of the House.
The bill furnished a rule for cases in
which the Cabinet disagreed. In gen.
eral such thing would not be neces-
sary. A Minister who could not agree
with his colleagues, if he were a man,
would resign.
Rep. Bush agreed with Mobiles Bald
win and Isenberg that something OF this
kind was necessary, but the bill ought !
to define executive acts. Gibson thought |
the simplest details of the Interior De-
partment were such acts. When there |
is difference of opinion in the Cabinet |
there is generally an appeal to the coun-
try. The treaty gave away the indepen-
dence OF the country because it could |
not be revoked.
Rep. Kahookano favored asking the |
other members of the Judiciary Com
mittee if they intended to report on this
bill If not, the House might as well |
go on with it.
Reps. Kanealii and White spoke.
Rep. Waipuilani saw no need OF wait
ing for the majority of the Judiciary
Committee, as they had all spoken on
the bill, and the House knew what they
thought.
Noble Macfarlane asked what the
article was doing in the treaty allowing
the United States to supervise the For
eign Office.
Noble Widemann said one might live
500 years before the same thing as hap
pened with the last ministry happens
again. You could not pass a law which
would hit every case. But that was no
reason for not passing this law.
Rep. R. w. Wilcox said the Cabinet
mad no sense of honor, was simply &C.
cupied with filling its own pockets with
money, and had no regard to the interests
of the people.
Rep. Richard rose to a point OF order.
The matter before the Hoi1so was hill IL