The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1890-09-02
DID NOT REACH FINAL VOTE
Mr.. Yontz's Street Railroad Ordinance
WillNOtC0me Up Again for Six Weeks.
Discussion in Council, with an Interchange Of
Personal Allusions-0ls Hot Speechand
Tilt Between Casper and Woollen.

impression that lively fight was on hand,
but he and Mr. Yontz, upon counting noses,
decided to hold the report. When he so IN
formed the Council. as report from the
railroad committee was called for, Mr..
Hicklin was the first TO take the matter up.
1T is a surprise to me" said he; for this
committee has had more time now than it
requires. should like to know. Mr.. Yontz,
if you really mean that you are not ready
to make reportp
IF was ready. sir" Mr.. Yontz replied.
Il should report"
Then, Mr.. Chairman" continued Nr.
Hicklin, Il move that we recall the ordi-
nance from the hands of the committee
II hope you will not do that, gentlemen"
said Mr.. Yontz. MY reason for not MAX
ing report tonight is that / shall be CON-
PEELED to leave the hall at IL o'clock. We
will not have time to discuss this ordinance
as it should be. and do not want to be alb
sent when it comes up"
Mr.. Markey moved to table Mr.. HlcklIn's
motion, but his motion was defeated by a
vote of Is to o. Mr.. Yontz then spoke
ut length upon his position. 'On a matter
OF so much Importance To the city" said he.
lit IS not fair to call this ordinance from
as am told one member of the committee
says he intends to do. We have worried
and worked to get an ordinance which
would give satisfaction to the people and
TO the company. am aware that certain
influences have been brought to bear by
which this ordinance is being bounded
down by one or two corporations in the
city. have been informed, too, of GER
tain propositions that have been made to
several of the councilmen, and to a member
ordinance. This Council will treat our
committee with discourtesy If 1t recalls the
ordinance. / appeal to you, gentlemen,
and ask that we be given an extension of
two weeks. and then i pledge you that
shall make report"
AS member of the committee on rail-
roads," said Mr.. Woollen. Il want to say
that my feelings will not be In the least dis
the committee. hope it will be. l want
the people to have their rights. The Citi-
zens' company has tried to get not only the
earth, but the heavens, and desire to re-
tain delectahle spot for the people of In
dianapolis. And / propose to stand here
and fight to that end
sEvERAL-sPEECHEs.
Mr.. Pearson made lengthy speech on
the question, In which he asked that the
whole matter be postponed until April l..
my reasons" said he, for desiring the
are: First. by that time the Legislature
will have made some provision on this
question OF improvements of streets. The
Supreme Court will have decided the paw
ing case, and the Legislature will I'M
.doubtedly have created a Board of Control
for this city These three things will have
very important bearing OIL the question.
Besides all the street improvements that
will be made before that time have already
been ordered. Second, / wish to place
.nI2 hAswx 49,. L.
opposed TO any extension of the street
car franchise for the additional season
that matter il pending in the Supreme
Court relating to the company, and the
month defining the street-car compsny's
liabilities to maintain and keep In repair
that portion of the street now occupied by
them. Third am. opposed to giving
dition to the long charter they have al
ready OF eleven years, on the ground they
will give the citizens of Indianapolis over
five miles of quick transit each year, Is it
4 S. baSp that the every m ms% bss
rived '0' When nAi patrons of the ns street. ct
car company should demand other
modes of transit than mules. Is it not also
q fact that electric cars and many other
modes of transit can be operated at a saving
of 90 per cent. over the mule system! With
the above facts staring every member of
the Council in the face, can you cOnscien-
.tiously give the five-mile quick transit rack
ct as the reason for extending their fran
chise twenty -one years? Fourth-Would
it not be a business proposition to ask the
etreet-car company TO pay over to the city
treasurer the sum of $3.50. 600 when they &C
cept the ordinance. and then the per cent.
1 on gross ,, receipts after the year 1907
county conventions and the Re.
publican county convention have placed
a plank in their platform advocating a
board OF control To govern the affairs of
our city. What reason, then, can any mem
Der of this Council give who is in favor of
granting this twenty one years extension
for taking this matter out of the hands of
the board Of control, out of the hands of all
future Councils, and disposng of 1t for an
ter squarely in the face, and find. after
careful elaboration, that if the Council
grant the extension asked for the day Will
come when every member voting for it
will feel the effect of public censure for
giving away a franchise worth. in my esti-
nation, 81, 100000. am in favor of giving
the board of control clean sweep to man.
age the affairs of the city and not
longtime contracts with any corpora
tion. Is it fair TO the laboring men of this
city to grant franchise of thirty years
and TO give the company the right to charge
5oents fare for that periodi Would it not
be wise for the Council to reserve the right
to compel the company TO carry passengers
after 1901 at rate of fare not to exceed 8
cents within the corporate Its of the city7
] trust the members will consider these
matters carefully before going on record in
favor of granting an extension"
Mr.. Woollen's statement surprises me- /"
said Mr.. Casper. when he says that the
company wants heaven and earth. He was
with us all the way through, but finally he
came mp and said that he could not agree
with Us. We asked him why, and he re-
piled. Because am pledged to make no
changes. say TO you. gentlemen. that Nh
Woollen is not voting his convictions to-
night. / do not know why, but there is
some reason
II did not intend to take any more of
this Councils time tonight retorted Mr..
Woollen, "but now have personal rea-
son for taking the floor. Mr. Casper states
fact when he says i was with the COM
mittee on the original ordinance. But he
does not speak the truth when he says
was In favor of the changes that were to be
reported here tonight When he says am
not voting my convictions he reflects upon
have always presumed. that every member
of this Council is an honest man-honest to
himself. honest to his country and honest
TO his God. At least I. for one, try to
live up TO that standard
''Oh, for that NATTER interrupted Mr..
Casper. Il think you are as honest as any
man who walks the earth
Thank you, sir, for that" Mr.. Woollen
replied.
Il always look to the papers to form pub
lie sentiment on such matters as this" said
Mr.. Hicklin. IL picked up the Sentinel
this morning. and it says Pass the ordi-