New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-03-16
great many things that could not como within tho

q great many things that could not como WITHIN tho
statute"
"Not If I was attorney" began Mr.. WINS ouO
before he could finish the sentence, Mayor "ran' IA
great anger cried "There we're great many ''ii'eS
tn.t admit come within the statute in the case In
which you wero plaintiff"
The crowd o; listeners laughed MI. lVils was
taken aback "wha-a-at7' said ne - was "o'''
plaintiff How can you say so
"Oh. yes.' persisted the Mayor "oh' yes sir'
INIT do saw So In the case OF obscene rhooer
..as yes rou were Your brother was the counsel.
Mr. Wins could as yet find nothing to say ou'
Il never plaintiff 49,.
ayes. YOU were" repeated his accuscr al "ih'o
heat. pounding the desk beside him.
Mr. wins had partially recovered himself. En-
phasizinc eaCIi word. he said; Tho statement naoe
nv the witness is deliberately untrue
Said the Mayor, even moro cmphaticaiF anu III
land voice: 81 say YOU are telling deliberate lie IN
saving So The goods there. and can produce
a man who knows It,"
There was an outbreak of applause from the Mayors
svmpathizers In the room. senator fassett raped
vigorously for order. .x..
Smuggling his shoulders. Mr.. WINS remarked thai
This matter wouldn't side-track him from the line OF
investigation. anyhow, and with CLEAN in his eyes
that seemed TO "mean business" he pun
a question to tho Mayor which was substantially
.Is IL not true that you have made deals, trades
and negotiations with litigants for the purpose vi
extortng illegal fees from Them
The Mayor famed up again, and exclaimed
is an impairment question. There's nothing IL IT,"
Let the question be read" said senator fasSc'''
aMr. stcnoerapher. read tie question
Il say no" shouted the Mayor.
as mo- your answcrln asked Senator Fasset*
calmly.
That is my answer
Mr. Wins resumed his examination as foiiows'
mid Eno Of any sue
No sir never There one deputy dismissed TOT
doing somethngbut not as you put It, very much uef
When the deputy and the attorney did not agree n"e
dstely said to the attorney III you don't Ike IT, take
up to court
o-Do you OF any case In which you reduced 'hc
amount which had been agreed upon 10 DO pd 10 ''o
Deputy Sheriff the attorney representing the persons ell
titled TO the collected under the eAecuuoh' A.
There was quite a number OF them
o-Can you designate any one OF them' Al cannon.
Q-Can you tell where on your books we can ma
Q designation Of then1 A.-You know very well nave
Just stated not place where record OF sueh
fees ws4 kent You that IS not proper question
In that sense.
Own you tell now whether there was any system
or method in Office other than that OF sending person
after your deputies subsequent to the fact to discover
,rhs4her they were charging illegal fecs1 AThc general
alertness Of the Office
Senator there other specific method that
YOU wish now TO specify which used to protect YOUR
self against wrongdoing ~ your dcputlcSl Al was
continually looking out for It,
Mr. Ivins-under these circumstances, any deputy
after had been effected and the proceeds OF tnat
sale realized, might make such terms as he was soic
TO make the attorney for the judgment CREATOR anu
II the attorney did object. you made the payment
after such sums agreed upon had been deducted :
Al have stated twenty times that they were withn
the statute limit did.
THE MAYORS BROAD PLATFORM
o-whether they were within the statute or not. II
they had been agreed upon by the parties Al was
advised BY Cochran that those fees that could pe
charged by consent were taxable by court
Senator Fasset-I understand that the witness axes
this broad position Whatever was charged ioI IN Us
bills and consented by parties came within the stat
Tho Mayor-No. don't.
Senator Fassett-wen, where do Won draw the line
Either own judgment or me auNcc OF cou"So'
A.-The advice Of counsel.
Mr. Iyins-Iiow did you judge between what could De
brought within the statute y consent and "st coo no'
be Ale reierng to MI CockIsn) marked then out
DIN each individual case Ain each case.
o-Cannot you specify kind Of a charge which
consent parties could not bring within he satutef A
Can / specify one case
o-Yes Can you specify item which the consen;
Of parties would bring within the s:atue' AMY
anything that is not specified within the statute
SENATOR FAssETT TRIES AGAIN.
senator Fassett tried again. said he: There is
term in the statute which YOU call extra compensa~
ton That does not refer any specific charge. does
it,"
NO.
is there anything which could find its way into the
9herif's bill which could not within the statute
Would consent of party TO give gratuity out OF
personal good will-would that bring 1t within the
extra Compensation
lift was a fair and reasonable compensation
That's right" said Bourke Cochran
In explaining the system of fees in the sherih's
,fHce Mr. Grant said "Whcn first went into once
asked Mr. Cochran to draw up schedule Of fees As
hey existed That schedule he posted up In the
,fHce, II was in existence and il was subsequently
drought to the committee for examination.
why did YOU post this schedule OF fees - asked Mr.
WINS "Was there nythine in the prior adininistra-
ton which, in your judgment. neccSsitated IT -
well was tho reply, when went into ONCE
7 found there was considerable scandal about the
sherHs Office l thought that would endeavor TO
that Office 50 nv first act TO reduce the number
NJ deputies and then be that the fees were in
accordance with law" As 10 the lack Of books, he
s.,d II voud be good thing If the law would compel
record 70 be kept and he sent bill on the subject
to Albany.
Have YOU a draft Of itl7 he was asked.
NO. SIR
~ MD the Governor veto il CLaushtcr.)
.No sir II never got out Of committee" Iaugiterp
But is there any reason asked Mr.. Wins. why
the Sheriff as "a private person Should not Keep a
record of the financial transactions Of that business
showing a debit and credit side TO your