Los Angeles daily herald., 1890-02-14
THE POLICE BOARD.
1t Don't Know What Officers
to Discharge.
SELECTION TO BE MADE TODAY
A Number of Saloen Licenses Granted
and Changes All0wed-Other
Matters Discussed.

The police commissioners met yester-
day afternoon, Mayor Hazard in the
chair, and Messrs. Collins, Dexter, Knox
and Lewis present.
1t was fully an hour after the appointed
hour before the meeting was called to
order, the commissioners in the mean
time having been closeted with the
Mayor in his private Office, presumably
to discuss the question of dropping ten
men from the force, in conformity with
the pr DIVISIONS of the retrenchment ordi-
nance. No definite information, how
ever, could be gained from the members
of the board, as to the cause or result of
their prolonged conference, on their re-
turn to the board room, and each COM
missioner maintained discreet reticence
when questioned on the subject. Mr..
Knox, who was Is minutes behind time,
was somewhat unwilling to join his con-
freres in what appeared to be an execu-
tive session; but on learning that it was
simply an informal discussion in which
they were engaged, he overcame his
6CTuplo5, duQ JOlno0 tucu d5 taoy
emerged from the Mayors Office.
At 8 O'Clock the board was called to
order, and at once proceeded to business
with the report of the Chief in the mat
ter of the application of Belli & Kiesner
for permit for new license at No. 140
Upper Main street. The report being q
favorable one, the application was
granted on motion of Mr.. Knox.
In the matter of the application of P.
Darkum for transfer of his license from
No. East First street to No. 232 West
First street, the Chief reported favorably
and the same was granted.
The following petitions for transfers of
licenses were granted:
G. Richardson, from Tom Shaw. for
No. Commercial street; Fame & Cha
bro, from P. Bsllade, for No. 2O7 Buena
Vista street; G. F. Gerken, from Sie-
wicke & Watkins, for No. Ala North
Main street; Charles Dillman, from
Stuhr & Dillman, for No. 252 South Main
street; P. Banie. from Baget &
Bante, for northeast corner of
Commercial and Los Angeles streets
and H. J. Bovee from Bovee & Neary,
for No. 604 Downey avenue. The sppli-
cation from G. Silverstein for permit
to open saloon at the corner of San Fer
nando and Olympia streets, was referred
to the Chief for investigation under the
rules.
A number OF demands, amounting in
the aggregate to $3S9.75, were approved
as read.
The bill of Meyberg Bros. for $45. 80
for work done in the old city hall, was,
on motion of Mr.. Knox, returned to that
firm with request that they segregate
the items contained therein and present
them to the building committee of the
Council for its approval.
The application of Charles Kielmann
for position on the force was received
and ordered placed on file.
The Mayor said there had gone into
effect since last meeting an ordinance
calling for the removal of nine men from
the department.
Mr.. Dexter said that it seemed to him
that the matter of removing ten men
from the force as required by the ordi.
nance, was one of the greatest concern
to be determined by the board. He
was of the opinion that the
Chief was the best person to name
those whom it would be to the best in
terests of the force to remove, and he
thought the board would not be shirking
any of it's responsibility by asking him to
bring in q list of the names of the nine
men he thought should be removed
This matter should be done with great
care, and no distinction should be made
with regard to party. He therefore
moved that when the board adjourn, it
do 30 until O'Clock tomorrow afternoon.
for the purpose of adopting the list of
nine names prepared by the Chief in the
meantime.
Mayor Hazard offered the following
amendment: Preference being given
in all cases to poor men who have fam
lilies dependent upon them for support,
and that no discrimination be made on
political grounds, but fairness be exer-
cised to both Democrats and Republi-
cans"
Mr.. Collins said that he would GER
tainly vote against the motion, as he felt
perfectly capable of exercising his own
judgment in the matter without dele.
eating his authority to the Chief.
Mr.. Knox asked whether the passage
of the resolution would bind the COM
missioners to vote for the list when pre-
sented by the Chief, and on learning that
such was the case, he announced his
intention ofopposing the motion, although
he concurred in the remarks of his
colleague from the East Side, rela-
tive TO the competency of the Chief,
but this was a question of individual
judgment. While he would be guided
by the Chief to certain extent, he felt
disinclined to vote for the removal of the
nine men without first knowing their
names. He had every confdencein the
Chief, but he would not be doing his
duty as police commissioner by doing
business in that way.
Mayor Hazard argued that he under
stood the motion to be merely advisory to
the action of the board, and that the
commission would not be Obliged to rat
ify the list when presented.
Mr.. Lewis said that he seconded the
motion to confirm the Chiefs action.
Messrs. Knox and Collins reiterated
their remarks, and Mr.. Dexter stated
that he meant to embody in his resolu-
tion that the board adopt or reject the
list as a whole, whereupon Mr.. Lewis
withdrew his second.
Mayor Hazard then seconded the mo-
ton, and added the following words to
the resolution: "The above list to be
advisory to this commission only" Mr..
Knox insisted upon the following addi-
ton: each name shall be voted on
separately" whereupon the whole
matter was discussed over again
at length. Finally Mr.. Knox
suggested that when the board