The Hawaiian gazette., 1890-09-30

any. They do not establish line fin
and show what they can do, but ask fo
y subsidy first. That is not the way tn
.. 5. 5. Co. did. Let them show wha
they can do. | therefore move TO strik,
out the subsidy.
Noble Mscfarlane could see no posi-
bility OF developing an important trad,
between Hilo and San Diego. He wa.
not surprised at Noble Horner's atti
tude, as he has been on his feet to de
lend every extravagant item ranging
from 100000 up. In the discussion O
finances he has been watching the spigot
while water was running from the bung
tie had gwen a very glowing descrip-
ton OF the 10000 people in San Diego
waiting to eat the Hilo bananas. You
would think they were all on the beach
waiting Tor the Hilo steamer to come in.
There IS no trade between Hilo and San
Diego that is worth developing at this
time, in consideration of the amount
asked for. 1t was not true that products
could be landed cheaper from San Diego
than from San Francisco. Their first
shiplosd OF hay was stored for two
months on the Esplanade. 1t was of an
inferior quality and could not compete
with the shipments by sailing vessel
from San Francisco. l would like to
ask the member from Hilo and the
Noble from Hamakua what they propose
to load a 1900 ton ship with. Up to
date they have not succeeded in obtain
ing single contract for freight.
Rep. Nawahi asked if the Noble would
vote for the bill if he would tell him?
Noble Macfarlane-Yes, II l am con-
WINGED there will be freight for the ves-
sci.
Rep. Nawahi said all the merchants
OF Hilo had promised 10 furnish freight.
Noble Macfarlsne said they might
pick up. some stray bean corn or dried
apples, but he meant sugar freights.
Rep. Nawahi said perhaps the hon.
Noble had relatives in the hay and feed
business.
Noble Macfarlane said that cut no
figure in the discussion. The country
could not afford to pay the subsidy.
Noble ]. III. Horner wished to address
himself to Noble Baldwin who had one
OF the most logical minds here. (Ap-
plause). He would not dispute what
the Noble said, 1t was not safe to do that,
but he wished to refer to his argument
that this line was premature. Would
natives and others 60 to planting if
there was no steamer TO take their pro-
ducts? When the steamer came they
might plant. When they saw the
steamer pushing its bows in every
month they would have faith aud energy
and would go to planting. But if we
u fill rhnra n lots nfl an,A,,-
and bananas before We put on the
steamers We'll never do anything. One
word more. The hon. Noble Noble
Macfarlane) has mentioned my name
pretty frequently and not respectfully
Will plead guilty to not being an old
fogy. l am an old man but not an old
fogy. and the young man will never
amount to anything until he lays off his
fegy clothes Ii we want to make pro-
gress in this world We must steer clear
of fogies You don't see fogyism in Ha-
makua. Noble Marsden-That's so y
Ii l had sat down and said, oh, l can't,
before all those big trees in Hamakua,
kukaiau wouldn't look as it does now.
When | see man with his sleeves
rolled up ready to go at anything that
offers itself, l see man after my own
heart, no matter ii he hasn't dollar in
the world. How | wish the native Ha-
waiians had this disposition with their
splendid strength. In fifteen years they'd
all be worth a half million. Let US 90
ahead so that in ten years we'll have a
hundred millions of dollars here instead
of forty. have nothing to do with this
steamship company, but | am Noble
for the whole country and not for Hama
kua only. This gentleman says go in
for everything expensive. He'll see that
don't before the session is over. 90
in for what l think will pay.
Noble Hind would have to acknowl-
edge that he was one of the fogies. He
should vote for the indefinite postpone
ment of this bill which was only for the
benefit of few people of Hilo. Hilo got
a great deal more back in public money
than she spent in taxes. Kohala was
not in that fix. Kohala had never got
justice. Hilo and the island of Oahu
seem to monopolize it all.
The previous question was moved and
carried.
Rep. White moved the ayes and noes
be called.
Minister Peterson stated he was not in
favor OF the bill in its present form, but
would like it amended so as to provide
such subsidy as the Government could
afford.
Rep. Kapaehaole asked to be excused.
The bill was indefinitely postponed on
the following division:
Ayes-G. Brown, Widemann, Berger,
Macfarlane, Muller, Phillips, Kauhane,
Hind, Parker, Marsden, Baldwin. Corn
well, Walbridge, q. y. Wilcox. Kanoa,
Isenberg, G. Brown, Lucas, Kauhi,
Kahookano, Apiki, A. S. VIII
cox-23.
Noes = Peterson, Pua, Mccarthy,
Crabbe, ]. NJ Homer, w. Y. Homer,
Won Tempsky, Marques, r. W. Wilcox,
Bush, Nawahi, Baker, A. Horner, Wal
puilani, White, Kanealii, Halstead,
Knudsen, Rice-19.
Noble Cornwell moved to reconsider.
The President declared the motion
carried, is to Il. Calls Of kanalua.
On a rising vote the motion was lost.
The House adjourned at 4 10 p
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