The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-09-23


the other bidders. New bids ought tC
have been called fOr-
Noble Baldwin had not made thor
oueh study OF this report, he had no:
had time L would take s great deal o.
tine. and probably other members had
not studied i either. Without looking
over the bids he differed entirely from No
ble Muller. as 70 the efficiency Of steel
piping He had had good deal OF ex-
perience with i and considered the steel
piping much more desirable, and that
Is the opinion OF mechanics generally.
That i the reason why W q. Irwin 5
bid for steel piping was accepted. II
was : sufficient reason As 10 the
Custom House the bids were asked tor
on drawings furnished by the Govern
ment. He hsd been told that the bid
dsrs had been told that they might also
make drawings OF their own. Noble
Maciarlane-NO sir. As 10 the fire lot
l understand there Is a legal explana-
ton. The appropriation was 5000.
The committee complain that $, ,647 was
spent This excess as l understand il
was spent in 2 former period except as 10
the S6=- which the Ministry ask for. Il
this Is : correct explanation i puts an
entirely different light on the transac-
ton.
Noble Maciarl;ne said that all the
transactions took place during the last
period
Noble Muller said It was in September,
ISSS
Noble Baldwin said he could find no
expenditure in the Finance Minister'S
report FOR the Allen lot.
NnNfa A1ara-f---a say--aIa--1Gr that This
was an exchange and not an out and out
purchase.
Noble Baldwin said he understood that
the work a h2kaako Was in moving
twenty buildings, whereas the Finance
Committee speak OF 3 tender Tor only
nine. lie was s0rrv that the statement
o. the Minister o. the Interior was not
here but he had wished 70 examine the
books q the Interior Department and
the Minister Of the Interior had refused
70 allow him 10 DO 50, but had said that
he would speak 70 the Finance Commit
tee NJ Ihurston desiSted immedl-
atelv and had not been notified that he
could be permitted 70 see them There
seem 10 have been : misunderstanding
II regard % the matter He would
move that the consideration be deferred
uuti. next Monday rs the Minister ci the
Interior was preparing 2 report The
Finance Committee have stated that
they wished the fullest investigation.
Let them prove i by supporting this
motion
Rep. NaTxhi protested against the
hon member speaker any longer. He
would favor discussion IN Committee OF
the Whole.
Noble 31actari2ne said be hoped the
member f0- Hilo would withdraw his
objection.
Noble Baldwin would vote 10 consider
next Monday IN Committee OF the Whole.
Noble Naciarlane beginning TO speak.
Rep. Brown rose 10 : point OF order.
The member had spoken twice.
Rep. kapaehaole reminded the Presi-
dent that others wished 10 speak besides
those who had been wasting the time
O. the House. II was useless 10 say this
was 81 important report. Everyone
knew that already. We ought to take
Up the topics IN II one by one. But 10
talk generally all over the subject is use
less. We shall never get anywhere that
way. ! therefore move il be discussed
IN Committee OF the Whole each part by
itself.
The House went into Committee Of
the Whole. Noble Marsden in the chair.
Noble Naciarlane said he wished TO
correct . statement Of Noble BaldWin'S.
Il had come 10 the knowledge OF the
Finance Committee that the late Minis
ter wzs inspecting the books Of the In
terror Department with reference TO the
late resolution, and il was suggested that
under the resolution he had no right to
DO 50. The Minister of the Interior ex-
planned that to Mr.. Thurston and said he
would confer with the committee. That
was done and the committee had no OBJ
lection, but wished q member OF the
Finance Committee TO be present. Mr..
ThuTston never came back TO inquire OF
the Minister what was decided, but went
OF Yachting.
The House proceeded 10 consider each
title Of the report by itself.
Rep. Nawahi moved the sections re-
ferring TO the Judiciary Department be
adopted. Carried.
The next part was that referring to the
Bureau Of Public instruction.
Rep. .Kapaehaole moved it be adopted.
Carried
Next was the part referring TO the
Foreign Office. II was adopted.
Next came the part referring to the In
ferior Department.
Rep. Brown said he had come to the
conclusion that the Finance report was
nothing but a criticism on the methods
OF work in the different departments, es-
pecially IN the Interior Department. As
L the IRE lot, the Minister OF the In
terror had the right to effect exchanges Of
Government property whenever the pub
lie interest required it. The House had
passed $1,000 ior erection OF Central
Fire Station on the lot obtained by the
late Minister, and that is an endorse
ment Of his conduct in this regard. So
that transaction Is perfectly straight
upon lis face and the report OF the Minis
ter OF the Interior bears this out The
Finance Committee have misunderstood
the matter. Now, in regard to the Road
Boards, great deal has been said, that
the pay rolls are insufficient, etc, etc.
No one is at fault except the Road
Boards themselves. He cannot be in
every district at once. Ido not see why
the sins OF the Board should be laid on
his shoulders when the very object OF
the law was to take the matter out of his