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not plant any of SAID trees.
On motion council adjourned.
JoHN W. BELL.
City Clerk,

The newspaper war between the old
Advance Publishing Co. and Battey d
Gregg, publishers OF the newspaper, The
Milbank Independent, still wages fierce
ly. Battey & Gregg undertook high
banded piece of business in attempting
to appropriate to their own use the
property Of others, and the court prompt
ly stopped them. The "cheek" and
''gall' exhibited 10y them is SIMPLY sub
llme In starting new paper, the In
dependent, they number the first issue
Volume. ;, No. 50. with the evident in
tention OF dec-iying advertisers They
claim to be getting lots + new subscrib-
ers while the fact is t!ieif papers are be-
ing thrown back upon their bands by
the individuals to whom they have mail.
ed them in tie hope OF forcing them to
take the paper One day this week one
of the firm offered to make an .tidhvi,
that the Independent had 1900 circula-
ton, notwithstanding it had only been
published two weeks. 1t is doubtful II
they even print ono half that number Of
papers, and it is not at all likely that
they have one hundred bona ide sub
serbers. The office is in continual
trouble and several printers the firm en-.
gagged refused 70 remain after working
few days. Their machinery keeps break
ing down and as neither OF the proprie-
tors are printers they are having sorry
time of il altogether. The popular un-
derstandng is that he concern will
shortly pull up and leave the country
Grant County Review.
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POLITICAL DIRECTORY
STATE OFFICERS.

STATE OFFICERS
0overnor-Asthur c. Mellette, Pierre.
EieutonAnt-j> H. Fletcher, Santa Clara.
Secretary Of State--A Q Ringsrud, Pierre
$Stats AQditor-L. G. Taylor, Pierre.
SSAts Treasurer-W, +. Smith, Pierre.
SNperintendert Of Public lnstrxc,ion-
g. I. Pinkh4m, Pierre.
As5issaak superintendent OF Public Il
Arsstlon-C Young, Pierre, and
A. - Free, Yankion.
Attorney Gen ersi--Hebert Dollsrd, Scot
land.
Commissioner Of school and Public
lands-O. II. Parker, Brookngs.
SUPREME COURT.
Prsai1tnk fudge Supreme Court-D.
Oses0A FIRST District Pierre
Second Dikmict-A. e. Kelam, Cham
0srlain
4Aa4A Dietnct-s. E. Beanett, CLARK
UeekA S&rreme Ooxrt fyao ", Good
0se.
CIRCUIT COURTS.
Tsrst Circuit-E. G. Smith, Judge,
Yankton.
Hsoond Circui: F. Il. Aikens, Judge,
Canton.
Third Circuit. O. Andrews, Judge.
Hrookings.
Fourth Circuit-Richsrd Hah3y. Judge,
Plankinton.
Fifth Gscnit-A W. Campbell Judge,
Sixth C,neait t-Hn ward g. Fuller. Judge
B0WAlA.
6srea4h Eircuit-John w. Nos1in. Judge
Rapid City.
Eighth C,rcuit-chas. NJ, Thou n. Judge.
Dseduond
Comniseionsr 0f Immigf atom. ii J.
HAeolty. Aberdeen.
PuhlAs Examir TT. E. Blanchard.
Mitchell.
Va1osiaary Surgson-D, Z. Collins,
NttaAsli.
6aileoed commissioners-H ], Rice.
Huron. Chairman. John Il, King, Rapid
CITY: a. D. Chase. Watertewn; Secretary.
I. +. Robisson. WAtertovn.
u OFFICIALS.
Uaitad Sts4es District Judgs-A. J. Ed
Unitad States District Attorney-Wm. 3.
bterling, Huron.
Unitsd States Marshal-Cyrui J Frye
Vssnillion
6ur1eyor Gsnsral-B. II. sullivan, Huron.
Uaffed 6tates Senators-G. Z. Moody. OF
Deedwood, and II. r. PettiGEew, OF Sioux
RA1ls.
Ropreeontstivss iu congresk-O. >. Gil
lpfd. e caSton, and J. A. Picker, oi
Eautlkton.
STATE LEGISLATURE.
lDeaa1oe 3lst District, s. Proctor,
0ilhonk.
RepeoGontatives: A. L. Partridge. Mil
6aak. W. d. Lawrence. Troy.
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MILBANK, S. d., FRIDAY, APRIL Is, $780,
ADvlCE 70 MOTHERS.

Mrs. Winslow's Soothing Syrup fol
children teethiHa Is the prescription
of one of the best female nurses and
physicians in the United States and
has been used for feyty years with
never.failing success by millions OF
mothers for their children. During
the process of teething its value is in.
calculahle. 1t relieves the child from
pain, cures dysentery and darrh9,
gripping in the bowels and wind,colic,
BY giving health to the child it rests
the mother. Price 25c. 4 bottle.
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South Dakota is entitled TO one cadet
at West Point and two naval cadets ~
Annapolis. Congressman Clifford and
Plcller have Determined to hare com.
petetlse examinations al Huron for the
cadet al West Point aud at Redfield
and Mitchell for the navel cadets. Es-
animation about May 1st Formal an
nounc.ment will be made soon--Ked-
field Journal
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COUNTY oFHICEas.

CennnaaeiAners-lst Dist John Martens.
ID Dust. John Hedman.
ID Dist. VIM. Jennings, Chm
An1n1e-Iohn Douglass.
I~r1r1er ot Deeds-C. w. Martens.
1S7&nfy and Probate Judge-Thes. Boacf.
4Soosee5-J 8. Farley.
II. J. Benedict.
~ Co4Rt-J. L. Lockhant
S911 ochooss-0. w Prevey.
pn1ot Attorney. H. Owen.
Cf1ae-Dr. e. 3. Daniels.
CoaalW Survey yoF-W. s. Crowi
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CITY ofFICERs.

49, -HApsy s. VolknaE.
0DGJ. ". Bell.
41nser-Aug. Mittelstaedt
oor-James Berry.
CT lustice~S. n. Pasoo.
C 1tt0rney-J W. Bell.
r. nen-ist Ward-L N KAencher. Ricl-
1t1 Nortell. ID WArd-W ; Saunders,
6oss Baird. "a Ward--C A Erlandson.
cow Marshal. Street Commissioner. Building
opector sud Fire Warden-J 4 Simmons.
1oooWan-Charles Sutcliie.
D0ARD o. EDUcATl0H
11H W Bell. sc Jones. 3 Eastman, H
4 ndtord, Irving Bath, . w AntelmAn
Dss Hochmuth.
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cry COUNCIL.

NlLbhNh, >. Iyoh.s iii o. ACc'.
The regular monthly meeting Of the
city coucil OF the City of Milbank,
resumed after adjournment At the
primary school building on the 7tn
day Of April A ID. 1890
Present: Mayor Vo Ikmar, Alder
,nan Z. W. Phs,en, w. 3. Saunders.
C.. A. Erlandsan. l.. NJ. karc.ter, r.
Mortell and H. B. Baird. and clerk
Messrs Volkaar. ErlH,,lson, Morte!l
and Baird having duly qualified.
Oaicial bonds of John W. Bell,
city clerk, A. Mitttlstaelt, city treas
urer, S. NJ. Pasco, city justice. and
James W. Berry city assessor, ap-
proved,
The following standing com mittees
were appointed by the mayor:
rieance--Ald. S4tmlers, kEv.
cher aud Er s,,dsoa
Street-Aldelmen Baird, Mortrll
and Phelen.
Fire-Aldermen Mortell, Erland.
son and Phelen.
John w. Bell WAS nominated as
city attorney and unanimously con-
drmed.
]. i. Simmons was nem mated as
marshal and also street C ,mmission
er. fire warden and building inspector
and confirmed:
Charles Sutcllffe was nominated
aud eunif'Ee1. rs policeman.
The following members OF the
bc2Ed Of health were nominated and
unanimously confirmed,
At large-Dr. 4. NJ. Wing.
ist Ward - r. .Mortell.
End Ward-Adna Woolsey
3rd Ward--D. ttaats.
On motion of Alderman Saunders,
it was unanimously resolved that the
thanks OF the city counci! he extend.
ed to Hen. Thomas l.. BeIck. the re.
tiring city clerk. Tor the able, efficient
and eRinently satisfactorily manner
in which he has performed the duties
Of hia office.
Moted by Mr.. Saunders aad car
rled. that the mayor be- directed u te.
ceige bida f0r lum Der for tbs use OF
the city and to award contract to low
est bidder.
| Moved and carried that salaries and
compensation Of city officers be fixed
rs follows: City treasurer, $lOO pei
year; city attorney. $50 per year. city
marshal. S25 per mtpth for all the
offices Of marshal. street commission
er. fire warden and building inspec-
tor; and city policeman. $40 p+l
| month.
On motion. the council designated the
Grant County Review and the
: HERALD.ADyANCE AS the official
papers Of the city, official publica
ti0ns in both to cost no more thar
the legal fees for publication in ont
paper:
On motion. bill of S. C. Jones fol
justice fees. $3.50, laid over because
not properly made out or sworn to.
| Proposition OF H. N. Peck. sub.
mitted by d. w. Diggs, Esq, to fur
nish trees for cemetery and avenue
leading thereto and pay SIS toward
planting same and IS toward mulch,
ing them il city will plant and care
for them.
Moved and carried. that Mr.. Peel
be requested to fence cemetery. pro
vide = suitable gate therefor. plan
trees around cemetery. sink vel
inside thereof. and replace with live
trees the dead ones on the avenue
leading thereto, and thai tho CITY d
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After a varied experience with So
called cathartic remedies. l am eonvinc.
I'd that Ayers l'i1ls gipe Tie mos, salts
factory results rel, exclusively 90
these Pills for the cure OF liver avd
stomach complaints John B. Bell, Sr.
Abilene, Texas.
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official PrOcee dSng . O1 the Board -
County Conn msmsssionersO Of Grant
Cbuntv, south Dakota.

MiLBANk, W ednesday, April,0 1890
board met pursuant to adjourn
thent
Present: ". Jennings, chairman;
John Martens. John Hedman and the
auditor as clerk.
On motion, the following bills were
audited and allowed
". w. Downie, county printing - 25
9lomstad Bros, repairing shoes Tor
paupef. ........... 20
Rr landson &Johnson. good, TOT indi-
gent poor ............. te l2
State bindery Co., Office supplies ... y rs
w. Jennings, com'r per diem and mile
age ................... ..'.'. ~ ~
John N ar,ens. SAM 90
John Hedman, same. ......... ~ ~
After investigating the matter in
regard to the application for seed
wheat from the farmers that were
unable to procure the same the board
decided to furnish 400 bushels of
wheat to such persons with the as
sistance OF the citizens of Milbank.
On motion, board adjourned to
Monday, May 5, 1890.
Attests: W. JENNINGS
JOHN DOUGLASS. Chairman.
County Auditor.
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Cough-Cures

Are abundant; but the one best Known for
its extraordinary anodyne and expecterant
qualities is Ayers Cherry PectoraL For
nearly hall , century this preparation has
been in greater demand than any other REM
edy for colds, coughs, bronchitis, and pull
monasy complaints in general.
II suffered for moro than eight months
from severe cough accompanied with hem.
orfhage Of the lungs and the expectoration
Of matter. The physicians gave me up, but
my druggist prevailed on me to try
The herald-advance. (Milbank, S.D.) 1890-1922, 1890-04-18
ADVERTISING RATES.
RAILROAD TINE TABLE.

L0eAle ten cents per line FOR the drst and
eeAt0 for each aubseQ uent insertion.
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Ayers
Cherry PectoraI.

did 80, and soon began to tupfotc; my
lungs healed, the dough ceased, ard / be-
came stoutef and hssithier than ffate ever
been before. would suggest tllst the name
Of Ayers Cherry Pectoral be changed to
Elixir of Life, for 1t certainly saved my life."
IF. j. Oliden, Salto, Buenos Ayres.
"A few years ago took . very bad cold.
which settled on my lungs. had night
sweats, a racking cough, and CREST soreness.
Ny doctors medicine did me no good.
tried many remedies, but received no bene.
fit; everybody despafred Of my recovery. I
was advised to use Ayers Cherry Pectoral,
and, as last resort did 50. From the nrst
dose l obtained relief. and, after using two
bottles OF 1t, was completely restored TO
health.'-F. Adams, New Gretna, n. J.
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j. sAIrHEk,

~. SAITHRk,
Attorney and Counsellor at Law
[DsAetlee In oil courts. Conteats before Y. 8.
LSad GAes specially. -
The Forrest City times., 1890-11-15
WASHINGTON

Acting Adjutant General McKeever has submitted his report
 The rumor that Secretary Tracy will b, elevated to the Supreme bench is denied.
 Congressman Baync attributes the recent landslide to the ignorance of tue voters,
 Secretlry Rusk has made his annual To port from the Agricultural Department,
 Nearly every Republican chairman of s committee was defcated for reelection.
 The chances are that Pension Commis. soncr Raam will be forcel out shortly.
 Taere is talk of "co.nbines on the speakershlp with rsfereace to the presi dancy In is9a.
 The Republicans are expected to pass tho mail subsidy bills at the coming session of Congress
 It is sad Senator Quay will soon resign as chairman of the Republican National Committee.
 The annual report of Col. Wilson. super. in,cndeut of the West Point Academy, shows asa students in that institution.
 The spcakership contes. while 1t Is to be deelded by the votes of Northern Demo. crats. will probably go 10 q Southcrn or Western maa
 There is much grumbiing among Repuh. Hcans over tho part the tarsn and forco hills plas ed In the campaign.
 Postnastcr Ganeral waaamaker has SUI ?, ,uled Mrs Margaret Watkins, a clerk, for saying thu, Quay was dead
 Consular advises arc tha, tho Msxicaa government has not yet placed an i'm port tax on AmerlcAn cat.o, but is pre- pairing a tarin bill.
The Forrest City times., 1890-11-15
REVOLT IN HONDURAS.
Fighting Begna at the Capital an'
 Large Loss Rs ported.

LA LiBERr.n, No vemher 10. The revo luton which has been expected for months ani which has cen gaiHng heaeway since the conclusion Of the war between Salvador and Guatemala has broken out in Honduras Iegucigalpa is in 9 state of siege, telegraph communication direct with tue capital has been interrupted, and 1t is believed that the wires have been cut, but this is not pos t,yely known. Several dispatches have been received hy the Salvadoran Govern men, In rcgard 10 the affair One is to the effect that on Friday last part of the gar. rison at Tegucigspa rovoited, and under the leadershi ? of Gen. Loagino Sarchese, took possession, after hard lighting, of the Capitol building and Arsenal. Since then street skrmsh.ng has been of daily oc- currence md Sauchese aud bis forces HOW have President Luis Bogran surrounded In ono of the wards of toe city, and 1t is believed he will be forced to sure nder un. less other garrlsons arrive at the scene ol the revolt within two or thren days
 The garrisons of inspection on the Salya doran aud Ncaraguan x frontiers are being pushed toward the capital by forced march. es, only enough soldiers being left behlnI to prevent possible uprising Severai other army men have issued proauueia- meutos aud are harrying with their forces to sud Sauchese IL Is believed the revoh ton will become general and Bogran be forced If not captured to leave the country. The garrisous now on the way to heip hun may revo.t. as they have not been paid for some time aud general dlscoatent reiens, which is ouly kept ia check by the officers tn command.
The Forrest City times., 1890-11-15
IT IS ALMOST A PANIC
A General Collapse on Wall
 Street.
JAY GOULD AND THE LAMBS
All stocks Depressed to Bottom Figures Owing to Sensat,on,1 Rumors from London ana Gouid's Policy
 -.War on wRnamaker.

NEW YORK, November tl.-Wali street had bad day yesterday, veritabe blue Monday. Yet 1t was DO. half as trying as a great many people expected, Or, more ac' curately speaking. feared
 On Friday afternoon and again on Satur. day morning the local stock ma, ket acted as If the selling movement, which had seemed to heve derived strong impetus from the elections and had been aggravat- ed by the advance in the bank rate, had eliminated. But Saturdays bank state ment, showing that the Clearing House bank. had lost during the week some three millions of lawful mousy in other ways than through the ordinary channels, made the street feel that 1t did not need to look to London for untoward developments, be- cause it had an evil Of It's own to attend to. The stock market sold of sharply at the close on Saturday a circumstance which, together with bearisn cabes that must have been sent from this side u London, supplemented, perhaps, with some selling orders, appears to have demoralized :ha London ma ket for American stock. h consequence London prices were way down when business was resumed on the Stock Exchange this morning The decllhes from New York prices Of Saturday wers i,s to per cent. Yet London did not sell an enormous lot of stocks. Or course. l. sod souc. br. the heaviest and mos, ef- fe,tive selling was by worn-ou and frightened spectators here.
 For once the bears did not have 10 ham. mer prices to get their stocks back at T profit, All they had to do was to pick up practically at their own prices as retreat ing bulls threw them away. It was a great opportunity for tho bears and tha. they improved this was shown by the fact that the market rallied chiefly on their purchases Ire first half hour saw u shrinkags Of values, a rattling dowa of prices that caused well nigh universal trepidatioa.
 In the orinion cf many people the most signifcan. declines were those In tho So called Gould stocks Western Cu,on and Manhattan Railway, which have not been really active for number of years, nor indeed were thsy couspcuonsiy so 10 dag, dropped four or five points on very few transactions immediately after tue open ing. Tbese movements, in connection with other circumstances, were generally con. strued as indicating that Mir. Gould tavorei lower prices temporarily The other cir, cumstancas were the publication a lew days ago of a sharp attack on Postmaster- Wauamakcrss commercial credit ia Wall street shcet, which, has on several occasions been over zeaious in tryinr ;o serve Mir Gould This morning the same sheet fairly teemed with attacks oa every body and every property tha, Mir. Gould is kaown 10 have entertained unkiudly feelings toward. From number of incidents ot this sort, Wall street has gradually drawn the conclusion tha; in some way or other Mir. Goalds small butcHsctlvc hand has been lad upon tas stock market.
The Forrest City times., 1890-11-15
GENERAL. DOMESTIC.

The majority against prohibition in Ne bsasaa is about 51,uoo.
 Two men have brcn arrested near Pilot Grove for causing the ottervilIe wreck
 Tho BoarI of Underwriters at Kansas City is threatened with aisiaierraiion.
 Gov. Cainpb II of Ohio is seriously III. md it is feared he has ,ypheid pneumonia
 Ex-Prcsideut Cleveland has given his opinion of the election, is results and tho reasons for them,
 Robert Shurte Of Snyder, ind, killed the girl who tilted him and then com mit,ea suicide.
 Isaac Biuxonle, the famous 'gsl, Secre- ,ary' of the San Francisco vgilautes of Isa6 Is dead
 Hon. Wm. NJ, Fshoeck ef Fort smi,l ls candidate for United States senator icon Arkansas
 The affairs of Jay Cook X O., who sus- pended in 1874 owing sii,oo1, have ut last, oee wound up.
 Stanley has reiterated the charges against Jameson. and gives details of he atroeious decd
 Elizabeth Bolts has recovered judgment .n Missouri court for the price of girl solu ID slavery days.
 reign of terror exists in the Chinese quarters at San Francisco owing 10 asses ssnauons between rival Caineso societies
 The authorities Of Victoria, British Cot ambia, have imposed tax upon American drummers in retaliation for the Mckinley bill
 Joe Jackson, one of Rabe Burrows gang, committed suicide in the Jaeksoa Miss } lsil by leaplag rom the th.rd floor Of the lail 70 the corridor below.
 Revised returns from Illtuois denote the election ot Kinney, D., instead of Hoppin, R.. in tue Second Senatorial District, giving Gen. Palmer clear majority for Senator.
 The Democratic majority in Missouri. uaohiclal nguros. is placed at ss.ts,1 \ carnival Of murder is ex.itlng the citizens of San Franossco.
 A beautiful Caicago girl died while hay ing a mo,e on her lace reluoved.
 Pearls have hecn found in mpssels in the Mackluaw Risee in lllinols. Wm. Vallie fatally shot his wife ut Cor. slcaua, Tex, aud then blew out his brains
 Ihsee Indians arc under sentence Of death at Mlssoala, Mont, fer numbering white ,nen.
 A large company is going from Kansas City to join the communistic colony Ut Top olobampo.
 A detailed account of the riot at Fair mount, Ind, shows the negro Utiey 10 aave precipitated il.
 Mir and Mrs. Asa Barr of Kansas City discover 10 their dlsmay that they arc brother and sister.
 The Supreme Court of Illinois has dc. sidsd against tho right of cities to tax irnmmers and pcidsers.
 Three desperaioes were captured single aaaded bs Saerif Phillips and landed ia Dubuque tIo.l jail.
 Tue coming session of Modern Woodmen l Sprin stield, H., is likely to see divi. siou of t4e order by States Seven negrces escaped from the Kansas City Jail. but five arc rccaptared. A guard was knocked senseless.
 Mrs. Albert J. Shell hiuts that Tascott was not tho muxdcrer of her father in law, put that another member of the Shell family ia involved. The Memphis Avalanche has been ab. sorbsd by the Appeal of that city. President Harrison has issaed his Thanks. s.ving Day proclamation. An Australian ballos bill will u intro. iuced into the Texas Legislssurs next Si ntny.
The Forrest City times., 1890-11-15
Teissraphlo Rrsxis,ss.

The inventor of tho cigar shaped boat thinks she will make the run to Europe la four days.
 Luther Harrington. . victim of unre. qnited love, hanged himself in Henry County. Missouri
 Mss Jessie Preston Of Lexington, Ky, was married to George \. Draper of Mas. sachuseits
 Col. Price and Col Higgius, prominent Missouri stockmcn. quarreied on . Mis. sonri Pacific train. aud tAe former was perhsps fatally shot
 The election. of Gen. Palmer to the United States Senate, from Illinois, is measursbly certain
 William Baldwin. whcse trial for the murder of his sister was . widely. known case in kansas has been pardoned.
 There is talk of . personal encounter between Col. Hyde of the St Jcseph Bailos and Col Shuisz of the St Joseph News.
 J. R. Palen. convicted of murder for killing ths man who rusnsd hls wife, haa been pArdoued by Gov. Thaysr of Nebraska.
 Mrs. Seibsl of Gut.enburs. N. Y, who mysseriousiy diaappsared four nouths sincs and was suppossd te be dead. hes rs- turned homo but unable e tell whsrs sAs hAs been.
The Forrest City times., 1890-11-15
THE IRISH DELEGATES,
President Harrison and Secretary Blaine Will Not Attend tho Wsshingt tou ReCeption


 WAsuiNaroS, D. C., November 1e.-- Neither President Harrison nor Secretary B aine will attend the Irish American re ception 10 Messrs Dillon and O'Brien ai Washington. The attendance of either would it is credibly stated De treated as a marked act of discourtcsy to the British Government, and would probably te re garded, Automatically, as so serious an Of. fense as to call for notice in the form of protest 10 the State Department by the British Minister. Tue legal position of Messrs. Dillon and O'Brien is that oi fugitives from justice. If the ofYepss charged against them was not one directed against the operations of public govern. ment in part of the United Kingdom, the participation of Gen. Harrison or Mir, Blaine in any welcome extended to them ip this country would be held by Lord Sails. bury to be a mere matter of personal taste or judgment. The charge against them is one to obstruct and defeat the laws of the realm, aud any couutenauce given to them by the pres.deu or Secretary of State would be resented in the usual diplomatic manner
 Other members of the Cabinet other than the Secretary of State are free to take part in tho reception of Messrs. Dillon and O'Brien without breach of international proprietS. None arc expected to do so, however, except possibly Secretary Tracy. If Mir. Pavne.l could be reached by cable he would probably be asked, in view of ths approaching visit of his two lieutenants td the American capital, to indicate frankly to the supporters of the Irish Parliament. ary party here what the authoritative position of that party is toward the plan of campaign which Messrs. Dillon and Q Brieu are to advocate here in public meeting oi representative Irish Americans Thev are much parplexei over the matter.