The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-09-30
THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.

MONDAY, Sept. %.

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by chaplain. Minutes OF preceding day
read and approved.
Noble Cornwell for the committee on
the resolution to pay His Majesty's debts
reports, recommending that bill which
it substitutes for the resolution be passed
The bill was read twice by title under
suspension of the rules, and referred to
the Printing Committee.
Rep. Marques for the minority OF the
Constitutional Convention Committee
reports that while they agree with the
majority in some points, they find other
parts of it inexact and out OF place. Not
being able to agree az to what constitu-
tional amendments are necessary, and
not being able to recommend the passage
of the bill in its present shape, the mi
nority Of the committee have decided to
refer the matter to the House.
Rep. Kahookano said he was one of
the minority who did not sign the major
ity report. Not being able to agree with
the other two members of the committee,
he would present an independent report.
The report is legal opinion on the con-
stitutionality OF convention. He thinks
the Supreme Court should be called on
for its opinion.
The reports were laid on the table to
be considered with the majority report.
Noble Baldwin rose to question. The
minority report on Post-office matters
had been delivered to the translator
about a week, and is not yet forth
coming.
The interpreter stated that ne had
completed the translation, but the Eng
lish was in the hand of Rep. Marques,
who had not returned it to him.
Rep. Marques said he had given the
report to the Printing Committee.
The House proceeded to the Order of
the Day, consideration of the committee
reports on the constitutional convention.
Rep. Brown moved the majority report
be adopted.
Rep. Bush moved consideration in
committee of the whole.
Noble Baldwin saw no need of going
into committee. The ten minute rule
was not rigidly enforced.
Rep. Il. w. Wilcox favored considera-
ton in committee of the whole. This
was the most important question before
the country. The talk about the ten
minute rule not being enforced is idle
talk. The freest discussion ought to be
allowed. In other countries the people
have only been able to get new consti-
tuition by revolution. The hon. members
themselves took part in that of 'S7.
Noble Walbridge said that free discus
sion was desirable, but some business
should be done. He would move that
the committee adopt the rules of the
House.
Rep. Nawahi said this motion was out
of order. The House might just as we'll
not 90 into committee. The desire is
simply to choke off debate. We all
know how the ten minute rule works
Members are allowed tospeak indefinite
ly who are on the popular side. Noble
Walbridge's objection is that it will take
long time. 1t is none of his business
how long it takes.
The President said such language was
out of order.
Rep Kanealii hoped the matter would
be calmly, fully and freely discussed.
He favored temperate discussion in
committee of the whole. None of the
three reports recommends the passage
of the bill. He hoped that on the first
outbreak of Incorporate language the
President would bring the member to
his senses.
Noble Cornwell said as this was one of
the most important bills of the session,
he favored full discussion, and while not
in favor of discussion in committee of the
whole, he would move suspension of the
ten minute rule.
Rep. Bush opposed that, as the pre-
vious question could be moved, and de-
bate shut off,
Noble Baldwin withdrew his motion
to stop this discussion. He had nc wish
to interfere with full debate.
The motion was carried.
President Walker stated to the Ser
geant-at-arms and the spectators behind
the bar that this was not a political
meeting, and that no demonstration
disturbing the order of the House could
be allowed He hoped the House would
remember the counsel of the member
from Waikiki, and conduct the discus
sion in quiet and parliamentary way.
He would call Noble Marsden to the
chair.
Noble Marsden counselled temperance
and said he would be as fair as possible
in his rulings.
Rep. Brown moved that when the
committee rise, it recommend adoption
of the majority report and indefinite
postponement of bill 125.
Noble Cornwell said he should follow
in his vote the opinion expressed in the
report which he had presented. He be-
lieved that he shared the views of all
who earnestly and sincerely desired to
promote the welfare OF the Kingdom.
That welfare would be disturbed, if not
imperilled, by an entire change in the
constitution. The desire of the natives
to make certain changes met his APP
prevail. These changes could be made
in the way prescribed by the constitution
and he would vote for such methods
only. He had full faith in the good faith
and good sense of the House, and be-
lieved they would pass such amendments
as would tend to the welfare of the peo-
pie. The people would endorse these
amendments. He trusted the hon mem
bers of the House would take his views,
and vote for the indefinite postponement
of the bill.
Rep. r. w. Wilcox moved indefinite
postponement of the majority report, and
passage of bill 125. This was the most
important question probably which had
come before any Legislature since Ka-
mehameha V. called convention in
1864. We all know how this constitution
was obtained. The King was given
twenty-four hours to sign it at the point
of the bayonet. If the King signed it
without the consent of his people, he had
no power to do so. The people should
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