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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
FIGHT IN THE RANKS OF LABOR.

The Board Of Walking Delegates met YESTERDAY. oa'
mid no attention TO uhe demands OF the CehtrH hA
Union made Sunday that the union e"p r't. 60.
c,and 0ner, House Garden Theatre and Madison square
Garden Amphheatre should be ordered on strike ~ o
on pain Of the expulsion from the Central INV" 81
unions to which uhey belong. There was no 'rouo's
whatever at the theatres last night and the ro'u'
,n Tsa,,o., I-non Branch No. g. OF the United order
NJ American Caspenters and Joers the Brotherhood u
Carpenters and Joners and the Amalgamaed soel, :.
Carpenters will probably be expelled at the next mee''
Of the Central Labor Union. -.
As the carpenters unions form the BACKBONE o.
Building Trades Section and the latter is the iouho.
NJ ,h Centr, Labor Union the total disruption OF 'a
Central Labor Union IL than likely. Inc 0srpn'a
unions threaten, IN they are expelled 70 JOIN
Central Labor Federation. George W. Middle'on, ~
eate tn the Central Labor Union. said yesterday uss ~
wx really nsht between the knights OF Labor and ~
American Federation Of Labor.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
TWO MEN BELIEVED TO BE DROWNED.

Captain Brown owner Of the catboat Tyrant; H. IL
Bowen. OF No. 2s3 Beecker-st; Frank stroud, oil ex
policeman of No. 1I6 Clinton Place. sidney smi'i,
August Martin and Frank schuyler OF Harlem we'
up the Sound duck shooting on sunday morning on the
Tyrant. They started at 1 r. M. and after several
hours began the journey home. While passing through
Hell Gate the boat struck rock which opened b's
hole in the bow. Tile boat was sinking rapidly, ana
the six nIen got into small rowboat which was tied
to the stern. The load too much for the boat ana
10 upset. The men caught hold OF the upturncd boat
and called for help several men who were al the
club room OF the Lille Drum and Fife Corps heard ts
cries and put out in small boats to the rescue.
smith and StrOub became exhausted ana could not
hold Oh to the boat until the rescuers came They es
20 Of the boat, said they would try 10 swim to the
shore and 1t believed that they were both drow9ed
Brown, Bower, Martin and schuyler were taken u
Astoria STROUD is known as the Jersey spider
He was appointed q policeman october % ios7. ana
was dismissed from the force last March Tor an u-
warranted assault with his club upon WIlct Cropsey
private detective, and Kate Murray at siAthave ana
iIhirteenth-st.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
MIR. CANNON AWAITING VICTORY.
THE MONEY EXPENDED BY THE DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATE NOT CONSIDERED EFFIoAC1oUs.

THE MONEY EXPENDED BY THE DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATE NOT CONSIDERED EFFIOAC1oUs.
panville ILL.,, Nov (special).-Republcans all
over this the XVIII Illinois District. are confident
that Congressman Cannon viii be reelected tohorro"
by a good round majority. The Democrats on the
other hand are hopeful. W. r. Jewell, of this city,
who has mansg ed the Republican canvass throughout
said tonight to your correspondent: If the contest
were left to the rank and file of the Republicans IN
the district who are all enthusiastic, Cannon wouid
be returned by the largest majority that he ever re-
ceived. There are a few discontinued on account OF
their failure to receive OFFICES, there always are III
every Congress district. The object OF Busey ana his
supporters has been aid these few dlsoOntents and
to purchase ether Republican votes by systematic
distribution Of money trusting that the Democrats
would remain solid. Our best advices are that they
have not added greatly to the disaifecon and have
not kept their own ranks unbroken" The indications
are that Cannon will win by majority ranging from
900 to 1sOO. The lowest estimate by county
majorities is this Vernillion, Mr.. Cannol's home
county 500 RepS9lican; Champaign, Busey's home
county, 400 Republican; Douglass, 100 Republican
EDGAR. 200 Democratic, and Coles, 100 Democratic
total LOO Republican. There are other RepuDhcan
workers who expect at least 1000 majority. Tine
Democratic managers authorize the statement That
p,,sey will win BY 500 to 900, provided the full
Democratic vote can be gotten ont" Others publicly
claim victory for Eusey but in private conversation
admit that Cannon may slip through by the skin OF
Sis teetns The lowest ma orty Cannon received
n.ss zoo in 1854, when General John Z. Black, ex-
pension Commissioner, wac his opponent Two years
aSo Cannon's majority was over $500.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
EAsTBoUND SHIPMENTS LAST WEEK.

Chicago, Nov. 3.-EastbOuud shipments Of freight by
rail last week aggregated 60353 tons, against 6sO31 for
the week previous, gain Of 1915 tons and against
6s $40 tons for the same period last year. gain Of
Alb tons. The Panhandle retained its lead in the
amount Of traffic carried leaving the Lake Shore
behind, with the Michigan Central and the Chicago
and Grand Trunk nearly tied for third place. The
shipments Of -four grain and provisions from Chicago
the seaboard by the lines in the Central Traffic AS
ISOLATION reached total Of 3326 tons, against 3O067
for the preceding week, increase of 2159 tons and
against 33752 for the corresponding week OF 1889,
decrease Of 626 TONS The Chicago and Grand Trunk,
which has been outstripppg all its competitors in the
amount of through traffic carried since the disturbance
over the uniform bill OF ladng, lost Its lead, by a
fraction Of per cent, to the Michigan Central The
q; Michigan Central, 21.4 Lake Shore, IA; Fort
Wayne, 11.5 Pan. Handle, Z; Baltimore and Ohio,
10; Nickel Plate, 17.2
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
norprr,-, DISTRICTS IN MISSISSIPPI

Jsekson. Miss. Nov. 3 (spcciaD.-Everything now
links like the election tomorrow would result In re-
tnrnnc Democratic Congressman. There is grave
doubt however expressed about the 1d lid and With
districts In the lid District, which is largely Re
publican there is great apathy among the Democrats
and George NJ. Buchanan. the Republican nominee mas
made an active canvass and has the party better
panzed than IT has been years. That is Chslmess
old district. The lid District has an immense Re
publican majority being the river or black section
james Hill, the Republican nominee, has made an
active canvass ard the negroes are well organized
r. C. Catching's record on evee matters VIII probably
null, him through as many negroes supporting him
ON that account In the With District. which Is
close politically T. r. stockdae. the Democratic nom
inee has alienated a large portion OF his white sup
port in the "piney woods" region BY ms votes l IN
foneress on land questions against thelr lHNest:
s. Griffin, his opponent, has taken eava IAN a Vi
iris dissension the other four districts the Dcmo
cratic msjories will be large
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
THE PRESIDENT GOING HOME TO VOTE.
HIS EXAMPLE FOLLOWED BY MANY PROMINENT
OFFICIALS.

Washington, Nov. 3.-The President left Washing
ton at 10 80 O'Clock this morning the Penn
sylyania Railroad for indianapolis. He will arrive
there tomorrow morning. and will remain just long
enough to cast his vote the Republican ticket aid
10 make short visit TO Mr. and Mrs. X. II. Mckee. lie
will leave Indianapolis in the evening and reach Wash
ington Wednesday afternoon. Attorney General Miller
and his daughter left here In company with the Presi
dent The former will also vote IN Indianapolis to-
morrow, and expects to remain there several days.
With the single exception OF second Assistant
PostmasterGeneal Bell all Of the prominent officials
of the Posto1ice Department hove gone 70 their
spective homes 10 vote. Mr.. Bell, whose home is In
PENNSYLVANIA, paired with Democrat. Postmaster
Wanamsker First Assistant postmaster Gen
eral Whitfield and Third Assistant Postmaster len
era Iiazen Chief Clerk Cooley General superintendent
White OF tile Railway Mall Service and his assistants.
Mr.. Campbell and Alexander Grant and Chief Post
Office Inspector Rathbone among those who have
already gone. Many fI0m tie Interior Department
have also gone. Among them General Bussey.
Assistant Attorney General Shields, Patent Commits
soncr Mitchell Commissioner Raun, Appointment
Clerk Tomner and several chiefs OF division. The
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
NOTES OLE THE CANVASS.

Justice Ingraham in the Supreme Court, Chambers,
Yesterday handed down decision denying the motion Of
August C. schwaeer Richard T. Petit the candidates
for Alderman Assembyman Of the Progressive Reform
party, Of the xIxyh Assembly District to have their
names printed ON than Official ballot
In view Of the chat the Ballot Reform Law Is 10 be
tried for the to-day and the possibility that 1t
may need judicial Interpretation, the Justices OF The
Supreme Court held short meeting yesterday and decided
that one Justice should be at the County Court
House from the the polls open until they close
The First Voters held mass.meetfng OF the St. Cuth
bert Club In Fortyfrst.st between Eighth and Ninth
ayes last night. John Brooks Levitt, OF the Peoples
Municipal League. was the only speaker lie urged s
hearers to vote and work for Scott to-day
Colonel Andrew II. H. Dawson. Assistant DisoictAr
toIney has breezy letter 10 Commodore Elbrdee
r. Gerry declining with thanks Mr.. Gerrys advice to him
to support De Lsneey Ncoli Coonei Dawson 0snnV' ses
tho Of Mr. Nicos course In being candidate
Of me party which defeat only three years
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
TO ADVANCE EAsrBoUND FREIGHT RATES.

1t has been arranged that Thursday there is to be
a meeting of the trunk line presidents and representa-
tves OF their Western connections in this city, to at
tempt to advance in eastbOund freight rates. John
Newell president of the Lake Shore, has consented to
attend the conference, and railway men say that II
he is condescendng, basis for all improvement can
be reached. The principal obstacle to raising Of
east-bound tariffs has been the controversy over
dressed beef rates between the Lake Shore and the
Grand Trunk Of Canada. 1t is not believed that these
two roads agree upon the dierenta rate claimed
by the Grand Trunk but arbitration can be called In
pending which there Ia excellent chance that the
tariffs on grain and grain products may be lifted from
the present low basis.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
AN INTERSTATE COMMERCE. DECISION.

Washington, Nov. "a decision Of the Interstate
Commerce Commission announced to-day in the
case of Capehart d Smith, owners OF the steamer r. T.
Coles on the Tennessee River against the Louisville
and Nashville Railroad Company, the Memphis and
Charleston Railroad Company, the East Tennessee,
Virginia and Georgia Railway Company and the Nash
vile, Chattanooga and St. Louis Railway Company.
Involving the question OF whether 1t is unjust dis
elimination or an unlawful preference for railroad
company to make an arrangement for through billing
and through rates with steamboat line and refuse
TO do SO with another competing line Of steamboats, ;
anC II decided that 1t not unjust discrimlna
ton nor all unlawful preference for railroad COM
many do this,
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
srEyoGRAPHERS NAVE A RECEPTION.

The Metropolitan Stenographers Association held IT.
second fall reception at its clubhouse. No 81 LeAng'
tonave last night. About 100 couples danced IN the
parlors of the frs, floor, which had been covered win
crash Those who did not dance spent the ume
watching the dancers playing billiards upon the
tables upstairs. Among those present were f. b.
smith, D. ii. Thomas, J. c. Mowbray, H. C. Ross
Dr. L. 5. Buckley, Mrs. ID. Z. Paine, Miss Minnie way
the Misses Hendrix Miss X. c. Geary, Miss Tauoer'
n G. Feely. Miss Schuchardt, Miss Madge Suffer- Miss
proddaI Miss Davis II. d. Hubbard J. X. Geary,
D. r stanwood G.. S. walworth Lloyd Roberts, J. H.
Albright and W. H. Hendee. =,
The committee Of arrangements was made up Oh
Robert / Nichols ID. ii. Thomas, William H. Hence.
DR.. G. ". p. Ramsey, Mrs NJ Z. Paine, Miss BURN
and Miss Sharkcy.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
WILL THERE BE AN EXTRA SESSION.
THE PRESIDENT STILL HAS THE NATTER UNDER
CONSIDERATION.

WILL THERE BE AN EXTRA SESSION.
THE PRESIDENT STILL HAS THE MATTER UNDER
CONSIDERATION.
Washington, Nov. 8 (speciaD.-Advantago has been
taken OF the absence Of President Harrison from wash
,noton 20 assert that the calling Of special session
OF Congress has been decided upon and that there Is
official authority. for the statement. WINE there
are cocent reasons TO justify the calling OF special
session notably the necessity for the enactment OF an
annortonment law at the earliest practicable day.
tbere k hel,evcd 10 he no official authority for the
etatement that ON is 10 be called The better opii-
inn and II Is justified by information derived from per-
sons who are usually well Informed ana woulo DC hhoV
n know is that the matter still under advSemen
the President neither having dismissed II nor denn'eH
decided in favor Of II. .,..
As has been heretofore pointed out In these
there are strong II not controlling reasons ID isVor "
o special session certainly reasons whlch VIII iui'
iuefy the President In calling If he DECIDES 10 uo
So Everybody almost Irrespective OF party raiheS
the necessity OF early action upon the subject oi ap
portionmenf In view Of the fact that nearly all ''e
States have biennial sessions OF their Legislatures and
that those sessions will DO held, rule within the
next four or five months while the Legislatures VIII
not be in regular session again until after the next
Presidential election. Equity as well as decehl
rcgard for constitutional requirements demands that
existing Inequalities of representation snail DC d C"
before the election OF Representatives TO the Lia Co
Cress and before the election OF President anu
President. OF many other cOgeht reas1ns a"
favor of a special session could be properly
and IL is yet possible that the President may decuc "
call one upon his return to Washington Dut Ho sueh
decision has not yet been reached.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
TIE TIRELEss SENSATION MoNGERs.

There has been another revival Of the sensational
stories which contradiced week or two ago, OF
the intention Of the vanderbs to larger shares
Of the railway systems in the far West. Chicago
newspaper prints statement that the visit OF j. Pier
pont Morgan to the West is part Of project to con-
summate deal by which the Egin, Juliet and Eastern
and the Chicago, Milwaukee and ST. Paul Railroads
were to be welded 10 the Vanderbilt system. The
story received publicity too late to enable denals from
the vanderbilts to be obtained. Wall Street men
friendly to their interests laughed at the tale, and
Vice President Bond, Of the St. Paul Company denied
all knowledge OF anything which could furnish basis
of truth for the yarn.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
THE "STAATS ZEITUNG' SPEAKS OUT.
TAMMANY's ABSURD POSITION L
THE MUNICIPAL CAMPAIGN.

R1DIcULING TAMMANY's ABSURD POSITION IN
THE MUNICIPAL CAMPAIGN
An editorial in tho New-Yorl "staats Zetune
Of yesterday, which is printed herewith shouio oe
read by all Democrats interested In the welfare OF the
city, II paints Tammany Hall In its true colors and
shows how necessary it is for the voters OF TINS CITY
to defeat the machine" to-day. The editorial Is as
follows:
Tamnany Hall endeavors convince the Democrats OF
New.Yok OF the Democratic party In leS1
depends upon reelection Of Grant Mayor OF New
York This nonsensicsl assumption is OF course only
made because Tsmmany Hall knows well the reasons why
great Of Democratic voters who THINK 'hoepehu
entity unable 10 support the candidates OF the mache
when they judged exclusively with reference TO inc
municipal administration. Only one question concerns
the citizens at election and that Is whether the ao
instiaton OF municipal affairs in the future shall DC
carried strictly upon business principles and free from
the Of party politics. or whether the money
raised by the taxpayers shall be used by Tammany Hall
aAd It's friends.
Political principles are not at stake Tsmmshy
Hall ITSELF however. has often given proof that IL
would not hesitate to sacrifice Democratic representa-
tves OF Democrats principles in State and Naona e'eo'
tons expect gain control Of the muncipal
government BY so doing The. Democrats o! the whole
country unfortunately. know that Tammany Hall is o
dangerous factor In every Presidential campaign For
this its admonitions IN this regard are po'h
stupid and fmpudent. Tammany's defeat In the coming
election necessity best interests Of the ctzeHs
and the outlook Of the Democratic party in the National
campaign VIII be frightened aud not darkened, II an END
IS put 3, the henous doings Of the machine
Tammany has always been called rightly lesdel
weight whose endangered the party and held
IL down. II surprise any however, that such
man as Governor Hill ridlcules the demand OF all wise
citizens that National questions and municipal questions
should be separated and calls untimey anaticism for
in Hill IL embodied the system OF American ma
chine and booty politics.
But II signs trustworthy, the machine nnd spo1le
politicians Of Tammsny Hall will be surprised to see the
sentimental fanatics gain the upper hand IN
our city Tomorrow and establish, at last, bet
tor sp,rit in our municipal household
change from bad good in city government depends
upon the citizens. Tammany Hall could not have shown
better what ground It treads upon, or how great
its st fear Of the results Of the election, than by IT.
conyulsiye attempt 10 identify the Democratic
party In the future with Mayor Grants destiny.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
A LIBRARY For ANS0yTA. CONH.

Ansonia. Conn, Nov. tspccnD.-The town has
inst received a gift from Miss Caroline Phelps Stokes.
OF Ncw-York. valuable site has been purchased
and presented TO the town. and upon this Miss stokes
Will erect handsome building - be used a public
library. IL is said that she Will also place in the
Library a large number Of books. Miss Stokes is a
daughter OF James stokes. who had large interests
in Ansona. This is the first gift OF the kind the
town has received.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
TILE WABASH ORDERED TO SHOW CAUSE.

indianapolis, Nov. tspecial.-Judge Woods issued
an order to-day requiring the Wabash to show cause
by Saturday why tho United States Marshal shall not
give the Chicago and Erie Railroad full possession Of
the line OF the former Chicago and Atlantic Com
pany, between Hammond ond Laletown june
ton, Ind, by removing therefrom the trains Of the
Wabash Company. The order also requires the
Wabash to show cause why it should not be entoned
from further prosecuting the suit at Wabash, this
State, I'm which the at that place Is asked to
enoin the Chicago and Erie from removing from Its
tracks the trains of the Wabash
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
EAsrHoUNp sMIpNENTs FRoM cHICAGo.

Chicago, Nov. tspccal.-There has been a perfect
boom in railroad business Of late, all lines complaining
O, shortage Of cars. The enstbonnd shipments last
week were 69353 tons against 1910 the correspond
Ing week OF last year. OF the -four, grain and pro-
Visions amounting 10 32l20 tons, the Michigan Cen
tral and Grand Trunk each carried II per cent Nickel
Plate II: Lake Shore, ID TT. Wayne, IL baltimore
and Ohio and Pan Handle, :.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
JAY GOULD BACK FROM THE souTHwE

Jay Gould and his son George arrived on Sunday in
New York from their trip over the southwestern rail-
ways. The party has been away about two weeks and
has come back full Of encouraging views to tue
future OF that part OF the country Jay Gould was at
his office yesterday. but too busy TO talk for
newspaper publication His friends however, say that
he looks WE'LL and that he has been improved in health
by the visit. Mr.. Gould contradcts the descriptions
OF Wall street bears to the condition and prospect
OF traffic in the Southwest. and takes sangune view
OF early advance In railway rates In the regions he
travelled through.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
REWARD FOR THE ARREST OF A BRUTE.

To the Editor of The Tribune.
Sir Last evening about II O'Clock witnessed oo'
az the most distressing sights ever saw in my nie'
Some one Oh Twenty -siXth-st or Twenty 'sevehts''
between No. SO West Twenty siXtnst. ana brosu
had tkcn cat saturated its fur with coal Oil or some
other infamInable matter and then set II on fife. 49,
-, 4 wi" h V,ae - hnman form H. J. BLY,.
az West Twenty -siXth-st, New-lo rR, Nov o. io'S
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
RIjSSELL A. BIGELOW,

Russell A. BigelOw, q lawyer in this city, died on
Sunday from acute cerebral mania, after only few
DAYS Illness lie born in 1859 at Sioux City Iowa.
his father being william H. BigelOw, lumber mer
chant His early school days passed in East
Hampton and New-Haven and he was graduated from
Yale in the class Of 81 Having gone through q
course Of study in the Columbia Law School, he began
practice in the Mutual Life Building At the time OF
his death lie was one Of the firm OF BigelOw Car
penter. He was member of the University Club.
The funeral will take place this afternoon at 30
O'Clock on the family homestead at BrattlebOrO, VT
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
EDWARD II. SKINNER.

The death of Edward II. Skinkcr was announced
Yesterday on the Produce and Cotton Exchanges. He
died at the Murray Hill Hotel on Sunday, from
In the stomach Mr.. Shinker was Of some
wealth and retired from business about five years ago
He was native OF Richmond, Va. and about
sixty five wears old lie leaves widow. The funeral
takes place to day at p. at the Church Of the
IIoly trinity Madison-ave. and Forty -secOnd.st.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
ANDREW J. DJSDROW.

Old Bridge, n j., Nov. , tSpeciaD-Andrew ]. Dis
brow died here to-day. aged sevcnty.sx years Heart
disease was. his maady lie was apparently well
as usual up to within a few minutes Of his death.
For fifty four years Mr.. Disbrow was postmaster Of
this place. lie was justice OF the peace for forty
years was Sheriff and for five was lay Judge
OF the county. lie was active Republican.
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
TIE VIEW And vOICE OF TAMMANY.

LISTEN no BoURKE COCHRAN, ITS OFFICIAL
MoUTHpIECE AND ORATOR.
From his speech in The Seventh Ward last Thursday.
1--WE are asked to believe that the
intelligence is to be found in the min.
listers Of the pulpit and I'm the narrow
chcsted, marrow minded, long haired
incOmpOOps who sit In the pews'"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
THE nIEWAND TOICE OF TAMMANY:

LISTEN TO BoURKE COCHRAN, ITS OFFICIAL
MoUTHPIECE AND ORATOR
From his speech in the Seventh Ward last Thur'oAy
owe are asked 10 believe that the
intelligence is to be found I'm the min
listers Of the pulpit and i'm the narrow
chcsted, narrow minded, long haired
nincompOopy who sit i'm the pews'"
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04
TEE rIEWAND VOICE OF TAMMANY.

LISTEN TO BOURKE COCHRAN, ITS OFFICIAL
MoCTWPIECE AND ORATOR.
From his speech in the Seventh Ward last Thursday.
1--WE are asked to believe that the
intelligence is to he found I'm the min.
listers Of the pulpit and i'm the narrow
chested, narrow minded, long haired
nincOmpOOps who sit i'm the Pews."
New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1890-11-04

LISTEN TO BOURKE COCHRAN, ITS OPTICAL.
MOUTHPIECE AND ORATOR
From his speech in the Seventh Ward last THURSDAY.
1--WE are asked to believe that the
Intelligence Is to be found In the min.
listers Of the pulpit and i'm the narrow
chested, narrow minded, long haired
nincOmpOops who sit I'm the pews"