The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1890-06-12

Minister Ashford said Minister
Thurston was disingenuous in not
stating his real reasons for opposing
the majority Of the Cabinet, which
were that the law prescribed the
election 10 take place the sccoud
February after the signing Of The
ColoncPs commission, and Y. V.
Ashford having been commissioned
in August, 1889, the election in
question was the frat and not the
second February thereafter, lie
could rccolcct the SING ,Iro1 with
which the Minister OF Foreign Az
fairs said, "Oh, we have settled
that" ! replied that that was
matter that |, as law officer OF the
Grown, bad something TO do with
settling. They declined to give
reasons at first, hat finally Mr..
Thursion said V. Y, Ashford had
thrown the election for them, that
he had written against them in the
Elelc, etc. l replied that that wa:
in The line OF Tie alleged Gibsonian
reason Of mot in Accord" ] never
heard the reason that it was his COM
piicity in the instruction until l
heard it from the Minister OF the
Interior the other day. Ii was sug-
gcsted that it would have been stui-
tiication of the Ministers TO 20 back
on their decision. That term was
rolled round with loving fervor by
the Minister of Finance. suggest
ed that ! had never been III Z pace
before where people were 50 fond of
that term in their words and so
averse 10 it in their actions.
"Alaa to think how peoples creeda
Are contradioted by their deeds"
The speaker quoted Esop's fable
with the moral, The animal that
changed its mind was a man, and
the animal that did not change it,
mind was % iackass. !" 1 opposed
the three Ministers again when they
presented the commission u: Major
Hebbard as Colonel to Ills Majesty.
/ considered myself as the law adj
wiser to the Grown and advised. His
Majesty so. L will rot he intimi-
dated by the Supreme Court, if it
was twice as large, into giving adj
vice that regard rs wrong. That
was simply little preliminary Skin
mis!i, that was only part OF their plan
to force their treaty. They wanted
to get man who was under their
thumb for Colonel. Major Hebbarcl
is q superior officer who could max e
his mark il lie got an oppor-
lunity in military circles Che 10 a
Canadian by birth although an Am.
erican by adoption; but being in
the Interior Department they con-
sidered him under their control.
They found they could not handle
me. They dropped the Colonelcy
question. i thought The treaty was
dead and buried. I was not agreed
with them before, but am still les;
now. For in view OF the situation
in the United States now it wou!t
put US in position Of complete
sUbserviency to the United State;
without any benefits, we could make
no treaties nor do. anything without
the consent of Uncle Sam. And u;
long as | am q member of this Cabi
net 1 will not consent TO any such
treaty. Then conference wa;
called at the Foreign Office. a
number of gentlemen were called il
there. They were called in TO in
limidate your humble servant, 81
that / would agree with the Other
Ministers In recommending thu
treaty to His Majesty. / was there
to do my duty TO His Majesty ant
to the country. / believe l wa
right, do not care how this Hous,
may vote, stick to it because lie
lieve l was right, l believe have
the whole country with me.
Minister Ashford replied to th'
charge OF insinceri,y in that he hal
different views from those lac he!t
last September. 1t was a grea
shock 10 them when the matter hat
blown. That passage in Article :
was put on separate paper, so tina
1t could be removed before being
shown TO the King. 1t was TO be ,
choice between the two articles afte
hearing the views Of Mr. Carter ant
Mr.. Blaine. If any member denieC
that he could only say his memory hat
gone to McGinty. The Minister o
Finance was the confidential man o
the Cabinet and he took the draft t,
the King but forgot to take off tina
"litlle JOKER" and, what we fearet
all along, whenever the King say
that he opposed it. II he was any
body but King. / would say h
"bucked," but King nevc
"bucks." The majority of thu
Cabinet submitted the opinion o
majority rule to the King, but the,
confined it to the Colonelcy matter
showing that the Colonelcy question
was only bandlnaid to the treat
matter. The Minister Of Interio
misslates the matter when he says
advised His Majesty not to take til
advice of the majority Of the Cabi
net. My advice TO the King was
Don't sign that treaty." The Min