The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1890-06-16

/ THINK the point might
have been raised to some one besides
the Acknowledgement. When the question
OF his conduct and ours comes up 10 be |
he tries TO choke ii off. sir. /
President, think | would have died in /
my boots before | would have put my
sell in such position. Now gentlemen |
OF the loyal opposition, for | believe you /
are loyal, as loyal as am, through your |
views are different, the question before |
you is not whether l am right or he is !
right, but whether you can consider it at
all or not. | demand the right as man
who has worked for three years night or
day. have never shirked TO have this
que ton considered.
Minister Ashiord-The Minister Of the
Interior thinks it unwise for the House
to let go the right TO investigate the con-
duct of one Minister, but l contend that
the House never had any such power.
The Minister thinks | am afraid. Who
is afraid? | am not. The Minister OF
the Interior wrote this amendment, if
am not mistaken, to choke off considera
ton OF his own conduct. The Minister
thinks it unfair for the House TO take
any partlzan advantage. Who is trying
that? Do try to evade responsibility?
L ELaitI IcduS ~ ldAi Will tic rest, Dui
the others have the audacity to put on a
mask and parade their lofty patriotism
with the resolution OF last nights caucus
grinning ike Goldfish from their
pockets. The Minister saws the ruling
takes away privilge OF this House. Mr..
President the House never had any such
privilege until this Constitution, and ii
this Constitution does not grant the
power, Their it does not exist. He has
cited a work by Mr. Todd l have a
great respect for Mr.. Todd; he was
Canadian who had been as near England
as l have. Now, there never was a vote
of want OF confidence in the English
Parliament OF less than the whole Cab
met. This is only OF a pace with the
conduct of the Minister OF the Interior
and his friends. They want to go to
England for their law and to the United
States for their protection. Mr. Presi-
dent, | have read little English history
myself, and l maintain that not once in
modern times has any such vote been
directed against less than the whole
Cabinet. The Minister suggests it would
be disastrous to the House. Now, if we
strike ont House and substitute Minister
OF Interior, that would be what he had
in his mind. 1t is OF no consequence to
me whether the appeal is sustained or
not. The Minister has pounded the table
with great force. He wants my iniQuities
investigated. How about his ownf l
am in bad company and | admit it. They
got bad after | came in, and when | was
away they got worse. (After making a
number OF remarks about the treaty, the
speaker said: | am not going to play
the baby act. | am not going to cry over
spilled milk. | am willing to go down
when there are four men here who
can do more for the interest OF the
country than these three do. am will
ing to take my appeal from the House to
the people, and | invite the Minister OF
the Interior to meet me there.
Rep. kalua-Only question before the
House is whether ruling of President is
correct [ put Articles IL and AZ to-
gether, and seems to me the Presidents
ruling. l move the previous question.
Carried.
Rep Brown says-I want ayes and
noes called SO that voters may mark
every members name who surrendered
their rights.
Rep. Kalua-Have the Ministers right
to vote on this question?
The President-Certainly
Rep. Kalua-Aole.
Minister Ashford protested.
President-I rule they have no right to
vote.
Minister Thurston-I wish to enter nv
protest against the way in which the
Chair makes rulings, simply because the
crowd raises a shout bandying about the
rights of Cabinet ministers. The Con-
stitution says Cabinet ministers shall
vote on all questions, except want of
confidence in themselves, and l claim
the right to vote, although as matter of
delicacy shall not vote, but l protest
against the ruling of the Chair.
Noble Widemann-This is virtually a
question OF want Of confidence.
Rep. Rosa-The Chair ruled that the
Ministers can vote, and think that the
Chair has no right to change its rulings
And with all due respect, l think it is
unfair.
President rule as I did in the first
place, that the Ministers have the right
to vote
The ayes ant noes were followed.
The following members explained their
votes:
Noble Mccarthy wish to explain
my vote. | am not in favor of the
amendment, but l believe now after
hearing the argument Il did not so thin.
when came i'm that the House his a
right to censure one member if it rpoosa
Rep. Kapaehaole-I wish r, exnla;n
my vote. | am not in favoi of amend.
ment, but am not - =, ,avor Of the rnling.
I because L believe in the right OF the
House to censure single Minister.
Rep. Kauhi-Wlien my name was
| called I said "mahope." Mahope has
come, and now as it makes no difference,
| | will not vote.
Rep. White-As it is not going to make
any difference / shall not vote Eyes"
Ruling of the Chair is not sustained by
vote of q to 10.
| Rep. Nawahi moves resolution adopted
without amendment
Rep. Brown-Motion is out OF order.
| Rep. Nawahi moves amendment be
indefinitely postponed.
| Rep. Brown-Motion is out of order
| The amendment must be put.
| Noble Widemann - The honorable
member lays down the law again.
! question it.
| Noble Macfarlane-I move to lay or
the table
Rep. Brown-That motion is out o
order.
Noble Mccarthy call for the ques
ton on the amendment.
Noble Baldwin calls for ayes and noes
Minister Ashiord-This amendment il
launched against me in my official capa
CITY. | have not minded it, because
know of the malevolence OF that little
clique and faction which has directed it
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