The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1890-06-03


D the sovereignty Of the country, so be ii
. do not believe they would have one
vote OF the forty-eight elected members
l OF this House, nor OF the Ministers
/ either. Ii anything of this kind is to be
inserted in the reply, it ought to be
specified precisely what is meant.
Rep Rickard said the confidence OF
the people is placed in us-they have
delegated to us, out OF thousands, the
duty of transacting the business of the
country. (The speaker read extract from
the speech from the throne referring to
the prosperity OF the eountry.) The facts
referred TO in the speech are facts and do
not warrant such a reply as the COM
mittee's draft proposed. The country
has undoubtedly been exceedingly pros
porous. There is no danger of any inter
terence in our affairs on the part OF any
foreign power. We are always liable to
natural disasters, such as hurricanes.
droughts, etc., but not from any foreign
power. Our strength lies in our weak
ness. The reply speaks OF check from
a cause beyond our control. The House
is competent to protect the interests of
the country, and we have nothing to fear
from without.
Noble Macfarlane said a great deal of
valuable time had been wasted on the
| question which might have been dis
posed of in ten minutes, had il been ap-
preached in proper spirit There has
| been no excuse for any such display of
party feeling. He admitted thu clause
objected to was somewhat obscure, but
the committee did not intend to conceal
any hidden meaning under it. think
no fair-minded man will find the Kings
| speech is an expression of the policy of
| the Government, and the House has a
| right to criticise it in its reply, and /
think the House should not lose sight of
this prerogative. desire to suggest an
| amendment, with the permission of the
member from Koolaupoko, to stop de-
bate and remove all possibility of mis-
apprehension on the part of the commu-
nifty at large We do not propose to re-
ceive any ministerial amendments. IL
we want any amendments we can make
them ourselves. For the first clause in
dispute propose the following: I" We
recognise that fair degree OF prosperity
has been enjoyed in your kingdom dur
ing the past biennial period, and hope
that the policy of Your Maiesty's Gov
ernment will be directed TO the continu-
ance OF that prosperity without affecting
the Independence or our country " In
place of the second clause criticized:
" Therefore, We will carefully consider
the wisdom OF pledging the Government
credit to such work"
Rep. Knudsen said, am one of the
committee appointed to draft the reply.
Several amendments have been pro
posed. Speaker reads the Minister of
the Interiors amendment). That reads
very fair, too fair l think. l saw and
continue to see nothing wrong in the re-
ply. Our prosperity is fair. l do not
think it is great. Prosperity in one line
is not prosperity in all. There has been
great general prosperity in the sugar in
terest. In my district there has been
great prosperity in sugar industry. In
other industries no great prosperity. The
strength OF the country is in the small
farmer. Now there are mortgage sales
OF small properties every week. We
should say to His Majesty what is true.
not what is smooth and pleasant. Now
the reply is true. There is a fair degree
OF prosperity, but no great prosperity as
the continual mortgage sales prove. L
am therefore in favor of the reply as it
stands. l would not say that the pledg.
ing the Government credit is unwise.
out question its wisdom l move that
TINS committee rise and recommend the
OF the reply as it stands.
Noble Horner seconded Noble Macfar-
lanes amendment.
Noble Cornwel wished to explain his
vote before voting. The draft was push
ed ON me. had no time for examine
tion Alter examination of it, lam con-
in favor of amendment and
shall vote for it. --0'-' ''"u
Minister Thurston said that Noble
Macfarlane agrees perfectly with him in
regardlng this as non-partizan ones
l!on The other side has made il a nar-
'lzan question. The honorable Noble
nas ADOPTED the meat of my amend
menus. am indifferent to the form.
'nereiore second them and hope thew
"lll-Pass. As to receiving Ministers
,mendments unfortunately it does NOT
iepend on him, as the right of the Min
Sters 70 SIT and vote and act in this
1ouse does not depend on him but is
by the constitution.
Rep. Brown moved that the commit
&c rise and recommend the House To
'9opt the report as amended by Noble
dactarlane. Calls of question:.
heP. hapaehaole said, am glad to
ee that the honorable members who
Fere Yesterday in favor of adopting tbe
ePort nave come over to our side. and
Telcome them. 0' anu
Inc motion of Rep. Brown was nnt
nd carried. vas put
lChaIrman-Raise your right hand
'o6le Baldwin-Can't do it)
Inc committee rose and reported tho
lotlon OF Rep. Brown. The report was
unanimously adopted. "''
hep. Brown moved that the reptv ,ha
ow engrossed and that a committea bo
pPolnted to take it TO His Majesty "
Rep. Kalua moved that the re1ort bs
I'D on the table until engrossed. Tbere
as !. no harm, His Majesty had seen the
hep: Brown called the attention os
ep. kalus to Rule 3S, which covers b;s
1jection 0'eiS MS
rep. kalla said it was not for Rem.
rown TO refer him to the rules. His mo
On was in order. 'o nio
minister Thurston said the motion IN
y y on the table is not debateable.