Telegram-herald., 1890-12-07
or Columbus Ohio, interviewed On
Dx. Koch's Consumption Cure
VII DR. Koea's LyEnph Cure Con-
sumpsiesg-ls Il Cure
or FzllaEiyes
The True Rslation or TNsbercular
B&ellll . Consumption
Explained.
TIE Theories Of These Two World.
Renowned Specialists
Compared.

ceIs. etc. ~ means Ol lYNpn injected
into the blood, zn interview with Dr.
Hartman MAS obtained n order - gel
as 0p mons as 70 tAe probable value ol
DE kOch's alleged discovery. Dr.
Hartman has been 80 long before the
puoilc as an Investigator aud lecturer
oa these subjects. that no man on tnis
side OF the Atlanue = IA Il position 10
speak with more authority IA regard 10
tie matter.
Ihe following conversation sets forth
briefly the doctors opinions, winch wlll
be OF great interest 10 the thousands
who read reports OF has popular lee
tgres
DO you regard the reported discoy-
cries OF DT. Koch as important ~ the
science of incidence
Ii IS impossible 10 say at present
whether they are or not, bat / have
considered them worth investigation,
and am already in correspondence With
Dr. Koch on the subject.
DO you intend 10 experiment with the
lymph Injection
4 have sent m an order for some Of
the lymph, which will be furnished as
soon as 1t can he, and ii few of my
patients desire me 20 | wall give them
the benefit of its supposed virtues, as
am positive Il can do no harm AZ least.
Do you entertain doubt as 10 It's curs-
tive natureg
1t is probable that il may be Of value
as palliative, and thus proiong life.
DR.. Koch believes that consumption IS
Is due 10 microscOplcal organisms
called bacilli, and that the lymph
which he Iniects into the blood of the
patient contains certain organisms
which will destroy the bacllll which
cause consumption, and this, be thinks,
/ will be sufficient 10 effect cure.
While IL is, doubtless, true that there Is
a specific tubercular bacillus, and Il
/ may also be true that DR.. Koch has
dlscoveled cd another variety of baclllls,
which, when introduced into the blood
of consumptlye patient, will destroy
the tubercular bacilli, yet even tins will
not have the effect Of curing consump-
ton.
have long contended, and all my in
vestigations go to show, that the bacllli
found III consumptiyes are not the
cause of this disease, but the effect OF
it. The lungs become lntiamed by
catarrh or other causes, and the condl-
ton which the intlamed lungs set up
causes these minute organisms TO thrive
IN great numbers.
Could not these organisms, or baclill,
as they are called, live and thrive IN
healthy lung?
No, So long as the lung is kept free
from disease these organisms are entire
/ ly incapable of dong harm. The air is
] full of them everywhere, yet those
whose lungs are healthy are in no
danger, but as soon as neglected cold
or any catarrhal Inflammation dIsturbs
them they swarm into them in great
numbers. Just as maggots (larvie) col
! lect in a running sore If not kept con-
\ stantly clean, so will these baclll COL
/ lect in the diseased lungs. 1t is easy
/ for any one to see even though DR..
! Koch's lymph should really de-
/ strOy the diseased germs or con-
+ sumption, that, although beneficial, 1t
would not remove the disease. To per-
manently cure the patient the diseased
/ condition VIII attracts or invites these
organisms must be cured. But it Is
quite likely that, while the patient is
being treated for consumptlhn, the
hypOdermic injection of DR.. Koch's s
| lymph would relieve the bad symptoms
| The vast number of consumptives
have under my care (at the Surgical
! Hotel and at their homes), will give me
the best possible opportunity to give it
"a thorough test.
What. then, are the weak points Of
/ Or. Koch consumption cure?
/ First, II can not remove the cause of
| consumption; hence can not cure it; hut
- ll-,.f f-,f
/ the great difficulty in preparing and
/ supplying the lymph in pure state, as
1 well IS the peculiar mode by which II Is
administered. can never be made TO
reach the masses OF the people.
/ TO what co you attribute your unus.
/ ual success IN the treatment OF con-
( sumption?
10 the use Of the remedy Pe-ru-na.
1 This remedy does not directly destroy
7 the disease germs OF consumption, out
I promptly removes the diseased cOndl-
/ .ion. the cause OF them, which destroys
/ them. For instance, ! examine the
I sputa of consumptive when / begin
/ treatment. and find II svarming with
bscilli OF tuberculosis, and after a
months treatment the same cxamlna-
4 tons reveals very few or none. TINS u
+ because Pe-Tu-na removes the intiaucd
+ condition OF the luugs, and tae disease
germs not finding anything TO support
E them for they feed ON tae products of
Inflammation do not any longer
thrive, but gradually DIE out.
What advantages do you consider
your treatment 10 have over kOch's
lymph treatment
/ There are. NJ least, three positive ad-
vautages. First. Pe-ru-ns removes the
cause az consumption, hence IT. benefits
+ arc permanent; while koCh's treatment
+ can only render transient relief, even X
T it is all that ls claimed for it. second,
I Pe-ru-na = remedy n resch Of the
mssses. and no considerable expense At
tsched 20 procuring it nor difficulty in
Administering i. Third, It will not
only cure the first stage Of C0nsunp-
E ton Gncip. ent consumption, which j.
al that pr. Koch claims. but cures
many csses in the second stage, sDd
even ia ne asst stage Of consumption
and never fails % bring gTsst relief
t. Al cases. however advanced taey
nav Be There e one thing. however
F Nh.fh ~ll greatly favor ths sprssd ~
. Dr. Koch's treatment and that ls. ths
F fascination wnlch TIE public has for
some quick cure Ter disease. tbs care
holds ous the prom - that dose, OF a
east fs- doses. = al thst WI bs -.
Z cures 10 ccniniets q cure. Isncsrsly u
Wsh t we're true, bat fear msny 81.
F. b doomed "a bittsr dIsss ppoinsaasnf s..
they rely on such statements.
Notritnstsnd z fns great nunhe
vao sre cured - c0nsumptzon in some
sage every year ~ tsklns Ps-rB-ra
there would - = vsstv greater nlsTr Der
cr~ed Vers t net far ths nsrstsgeu pre-
+ fsrsnce rhiCh Hsny p@cple have foi