The Daily bulletin., 1890-11-11

This was,one of the most serious
matters which had ever bnen dealt
with by the Legislature. While he
was not satisfied with the attitude Of
the planters on the bill, there would
he an opportunity to submit amend
ments on third reading.
The President ruled that, the mat
ter being one in which every person
in the Kingdom was Interested, the
planters in the House should not be
debarred from voting.
The report was adopted on a show
of hands.
Noble Muller appealed from the
ruling of the chair.
Noble Baldwin said that il MEM
bers who were thoroughly disinter-
ested could alone vote on measures,
there would be very few votes cast
in this House.
Noble Muller withdrew his ap.
peal.
Noble Widemann said the bill
had all along been called one for
the relief of planters, and recog-
nizing it as such he for one declined
to vote on the passage of the bill.
BILLS ON THIRD READING.
Third reading Of bill for electric
light franchise.
Noble Cornwel moved that the
bill be indefinitely postponed. His
reason was that he did not believe
in this Government giving an ex-
elusive franchise to any private cor
poration.
Mobiles Phillips and Marsden-
Except on tobacco.
Noble Cornwell-There's no ex-
elusive franchise on tobacco. The
applicants did not bind themselves
to buy the Government plant. As
they bound themselves not to use
an alternating current, and the
Government plant was run by such
a current, they could not buy that
plant. The revenue from the in
candescent lamps was nearly enough
to pay for the street lighting arc
system. Therefore he moved that
the bill be indefinitely postponed.
Noble Marsden thought if there
was any "steal" in the bill it could
be struck out. He would move an
amendment requiring the Minister
of the Interior TO have the concur
renee of the Cabinet in selling the
plant. Also, to strike out the sixth
section with the exclusive franchise.
Also, to amend Sec. 3 by striking
out the prohibition of the alternat-
ing current, and inserting instead a
provision that the works shall be
maintained so as to be without
danger to life. 1t was impossible to
operate electric lights wiShout an
alternating current, which would be
transformed before reaching the
lamps.
Noble Widemann was willing to
vote for indefinite postponement, but
not for the reasons gwen by the hon.
Noble from Maui. The cost of the
plant to be sold was not so very
great as had been represented, but
it was folly for anyone to say that
the house lighting paid for the
street-lighting. Very few of those
who wanted electric lights from the
Government could get them, al
though thousands on thousands OF
dollars had been spent on the works.
The street lighting itself was very
indifferently performed, only few
favored places BEING sufficiently
lighted. There was not enough
power in that Nuuanu establishment
for the work attempted. He hope6
nobody would be foolish enough tt
attempt to furnish light under this
bill.
Noble Baldwin said it should moi
be forgotten that the lighting o1
Honolulu was paid for by the whole
country. If the house lighting
branch of the Government service
helped to pay for the street lighting
it would be an injustice to the coun.
try to part with the branch from
which there was some profit to the
treasury. The expenditures for The
benefit of Honolulu were out of pro
portion TO those for the benefit o.
the country districts. The House
should understand that the street
outlay was dead expense to the
treasury, and that for an extrs
thousand dollars the seven hundred
and odd incandescent lamps were
run, bringing in a revenue to the
Government. He had no objection
to company starting plant and
furnishing private lighting, but he
did object to giving company ar
exclusive franchise and to the Gov
ernment plant being sacrificed. There
was no guarantee that the company
would buy the plant, and if not il
would be left dead stock ON the
hands of the Government. There
fore he would support the motion
for indefinite postponement.
Noble Macfarlane had heard ;
good deal outside and in certain
newspaper about this bill being {
steal. Although he did not know
who were the promoters of the bill
he had no reason to believe
there was any steal in it. He be
lieved that the transfer of house
lighting to a company would be il
the interest of economy. There wa