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tion, and wanted the whole matter left

prepare and submit n charter If the |
people want 1t they will vote for II, If |
of the charter and the fifteen freehold
ers. |
Mr.. Dyer opposed the amendment and |
favored the system presented by the |
section. He had lived all his life In st. |
Louis until he came to this territory, and |
this system worked well there. There
were many things, such as police and
sanitary regulations, which cities should
have. but which the remainder of the
county did not have.
Mr.. Reed believed i'm the same argu-
ment.
Mr.. Kinnear could not see any obiec-
tion to letting cities of 1000 change
their own laws and not mako them al
ways come to u legislature, and often
times. be defeated there by legislative
combinations.
Mr.. Durie felt the same way, and be-
lieved in local self government, instanc-
ing his own city of Seattle ms case
where new charter was badly needed,
and ought to be allowed.
Mr.. Hoyt moved to amend Mr. Sulli-
vans amendment Ito strike ont certain
words) by changing those words so as to
require only a majority instead of two
thirds of the electors to ratify such a
proposed charter.
Mr. Browne thought that If this sec
'lDil WINS uuOIl'h 'H'lN Wohtltt Dt new
| charters sought after about every two
years, at great expense in the payment
of these various committees of fftten.
Leave il all to the legislature to provide
by general law for all these eases, and to
amend this law as often as appears need
| ful.
Mr.. Cosgrove asked what was before
the committee
The chair asked Mr.. Hoyt what was
| the position of his amendment.
Mr.. Hoyt said he didn't offer u as an
amendment TO Mr.. Sullivnn's amend.
ment, but to perfect the section before
IL was stricken out.
Mr.. Browne said Mr.. Hoyts motion
was not In order until the motion to
strike out had been put and decided.
Mr.. Eldrcdgc said If Mr.. Hoyts mo-
tion was rejected and Mr.. Sullivan's
motion was adopted the section was be-
yond the reach of amendment, and that
the convention had the right to perfect
| IL as far was desirable, before voting on
| the question to strike out.
The chair took this view also, and de.
Clared Mr.. Hoyts motion to be first be-
| fore the committee
MIR. stiles thought the section right as
it stood, but Mr., Hoyt would not agree
to vote for section which required any
more than a majority OF the electors to
ratlfy n charter. Mr.. Hoyt's motion
was adopted. The question rccurrcd on
Mr.. Sullivan's motion to strike out all
but the first sentence of the section.
Mr.. Griiiitts reviewed the arguments
hitherto advanced and argued again in
favor Of allowing the people of q city to
say what their charter should he. He
would personally prefer to reduce the re- re,
quired number from 5000 to 1900
rather than raise IL.
Mr. Cosgrove raised point of order
that motion TO strike out could only be
amended by striking out more or strik-
ing out less. If the motion to strike out
prevails, then IL all goes, of course, but
IL it is lost all amendments made go with
I IL.
| The chair so understood IL.
i Mr.. Hoyt objected to that, saying II
the motion to strike out failed IL still left
his amendment standing, Just as though
! 1t had been made before Mr.. Sullivans
motion was offered.
The chair said he so understood 1t and
% intended 10 state. -
Mr.. Browne moved to amend by sirik.
ing out only all the eection after the sec
ond sentence beginning with the words
ANY city containing population
etc"
j. u. Moore, acting under the ruling ot
the chair in Mr. Hoyts case, submitted
an independent proposition, changing
% 600 to 1000.
Mr.. Cosgrove asked if that was in or.
der.
The chair said he should rule that il
was, aud the gentleman could appeal ii
he desired.
Mr.. Cosgrove-The gentleman does
not to desire. He only wants TO know
how to act in the future.
Mr.. Moore said he doubted If there
was city in the territory that had 25,
600 inhabitants, and so he wished to re
duce the number. Lost.
Mr.. Sullivan of Whitman hoped the
section would stand as it was. \ city o.
%, 900 people knew better what it wantct
than any legislature could know. What
does a legislator from 0kanogan know
of the needs of Seattle, he asked. lie
would be willing to make the number OF
inhabitants 2O,0OO. There was
TOO MUCH LEGISLATION
ANYHOW. The greatest benefit to the
state of Washington would be TO wip,
out the legislature for ten years.
Mr.. Brownies amendment was lost
Mr.. Sullivan's amendment met the
same fate, but little more pronounced
for not single yea was heard. Section
10 was then adopted with the singl,
amendment offered by Mr. Hoyt.
Section Ii Counties, cities, towns o
townships to make and enforc,
police and sanitary rcgulations)
| nave ttNtlbtl ktuC lcHlSlutuIt
power to impose and collect take
on all public or municipal corporations
but may vest that power in the corpora
tions themselves, section ID Iprivate pro
perty not to- be taken or sold for taxes ex
cept by ordinary process Of law, sectio,
IA (prohibiting the making of any prof
out of public moneys by officers having
adopted without debate or amendment
Section l5 reads: "All moneys, as
sessments and taxes belonging to or col
lected for the use of any county, city
, town or other public or municipal cor
poration coming into the hands of any
, officer thereof shall immediately be de
posted with the treasurer or other lega
! depository to the credit of such city
! town or other corporation respectivel,
, for the benefit of the funds to whicl
, they belong.
) Mr.. Brown desired to know wha
, would be understood by the word imme
diately.
, Mr.. Stiles said IT meant "at the earli
3 est possible time"
. The section was then adopted.
On motion of Mr.. Stiles the recon-
mendation of the committee regarding
n the election, etc, of county clerks WA
. ordered reported to the convention 4
4 be referred to the committee o.
1 schedules.
Mr. Kinnear wished TO offer an amend
4 mcnt to section 3.
The chair thought that reconsidera
ton would be necessary.
Mr.. Cosgrove said that had not bee
# the course pursued by the previous con
}. mittee.
q The chair thought the circumstance
}. we're not similar.
II Mr.. Mires moved that the article as
q whole he adopted. SO voted.
@ Mr.. Griftitts asked IL everybody wa
q fL rnunh nnd Mr Reed called afIcniin