Morning journal and courier., 1889-07-30
THE ROYAL GRANTS.

The Debate in the House of Commons
 Resumed - John Morley Offers An
 Amendment, which is Defeated.
 LONDON, July 29.-The House of Commons sitting in the committee of the whole, re- stunned the debate on the royal grants bill to- day. Mir. John Morley moved an amend
 ment declaring that the House is unwilling to increase the burdens of the people without
 assurance that no further claims will be made
 for younger members of the royal family.
 He denied that he opposed the grants be- cause he dare not openly attack the crown. He opposed them, he said. because Parlia- ment had in no degree failed to comply with any provision of the act of 1887. The gov ernment had not made out their case, either in the select committee or In the House. Parliament had already literally pro- vided for all the children of the Queen. It had not been shown that retrenchments might not be made in ex- penditures upon royalty without causing the Queen any anxiety. He especially objected | to the assertion of the claim to grants of the grandchildren of the Queen. Lord Harting- | toms speech on Friday clearly indicated the ! intention to preserve that right for future ! use. It was proposed not to restrict these claims to the children of the heir apparent, but to open them to grandchildren of the \ sovereign generally. He moved the amend- ment in order to prevent @ reassertion and reaffrmation of claim the justice of which | he denied.
 Mr. Chamberlain said that MT. Morley ob. ! jected to the grant because no fnality was ! promised, but as regards the present reign | the proposed grants were absolutely final. MT. Chamberlain denied that MT. Labou k III tad kI,a, pie. They only represented small minoli- | ties. They did their utmost to stimulate the | popular prejudice to which they truckled. | It was shameful to fawn upon monarch, ! but it was still more shameful to truckle to | the multitude. The members who were do- | ing so were nothing less than the nihilists of | English politics. Loud conservative cheers | and radical grosns)
 | Mr. Labouchere said he hailed Mir. Morley 6 | amendment as a practical refusal of further | grants during the present reign. With future \ reigns he would not trouble himself The . conservatives, who in and out of season had vilifed MT. Gladstone, were now ready to
 fall down and worship ehim because on the question of the grants he had turned their | way. They would worship the devil himself [ under similar circum instances. (Cries of cor derl"
 In conclusion he said that he and his col | leagues would be beaten on the division, but he intended to oppose the grants at every ! stage es a moral protest against the crowns claim. MT. Morley's amendment wss defeated by a ' vote of 355 to 134. Mr. Gladstone, the Par nellites and the bulk of tho dissidients again voted with the government.
 The minority included Sir Wm. Harcourt, Sir George Trevelyan, Right Hon. Hugh c. Childers, Right Hon. George Shaw-Lefevre and Right Hon. A. s. Mundella. Sir Will
 liam Vernon -Harcourt said he would vote
 against the grants, because the accompany
 ing declarations of principle were altogether
 unsound. The Queen, according to the gov
 ernment's declarations, waived further elaine
 for her grandchildren, yet the government
 persisted in keeping alive those claims and | tried to perpetuate them,