, 1889-07-18

The question then required on Mr..
Gnflltts' motion OF Saturdays session,
10 strike out "state lands committee
and substitute 'coinmittee ON judicial
department" so that the latter commit
tee will, II the resolution Is passed. he
charged with the duty OF investigating
the tide lands question.
MIR. buchanan said the Judiciary com
mittec was composed wholly of lawyers,
while the state fnnds commistee was not,
but In his remarks on this point on Sat.
urday he did not mean to he understood
as making any reflection on this latter
committee, but he still thought the Judi
oiary committee wns the one most likely
TO give the best information on this sub
ject.
AT Mr.. Cosgroyes request tho resolu-
tion wns read again,
Mr.Dunbar, as chairman of the state
lands committee, said they would take
u ms no reflection on them II the rcsolu-
ton should he sent Ia another commit
tee. In fact they were more likely to
consider It reflection for the convention
10 instruct them In their duties though
he was sure the gentleman tMoore) had
no such intention In Offering the resolu-
ton, but tho state lands committee
would go right along with its work on
this question whether this resolution was
referred to II or not.
lie was
OPPOSED TO THE WHOLE THING,
however, as being matter belonging to
the legislature rather than TO the con.
yentlou, but lf the convention must con
slider Il, then tho proposition should be
divided and part Of ID go to the judicial
committee and the rest to special COM
mittee.
Mr.. Cosgroyc said he had moved on
Saturday to refer the subject TO special
committee, with Mr., Moore as chair
man, in order that that gentleman
might sec tho immense amount Of work
he proposed 10 place ON the state lands
committee. The question wasifthe states
title to tho tide lands belonged to the
judicial committee. Beyond that II was
utterly impossible TO get the Information
ms TO occupants, etc, that the resolution
called for, except from the statements
made before the committee by parties
who were, or were liable to be, interested
In the decision, and this was the sort OF
information upon which he would not be
willing either 10 act himself or reoom-
mend the convention to act. Upon such
demand for information as this the
congress OF the United States would take
n recess and give a special committee
six months to get II in. The state lands
committee does not want this subject
sent to them or TO have anything 10 do
with IL or to- make any report on II.
MIR. Goldman appreciated that the reso-
luton was
TOO nRoAp AND rAR.RRAcHrSo
IN It's demands for information, but he
was satisfied that the judicial committee
would make the proper discrimination
and report what was and what was not
proper to be investigated. In fact, this
Ia % be sent TO the Judicial committee
solely for the purpose of getting informa-
sent to that committee.
Mr.. Gritlits, as maker OF the motion to
send the subject TO the judiciary COM
mittcc, said hc mcnt no reelection upon
any other committee. He understood
the state lnnds committee was oyer-bur-
dened, and As the Judiciary committee
was about through with its regular work,
he thought that was the proper commit;
tee for this work. Its report will bind
no one. but he merely Cor the informa-
ton Of the conyontion, To show how the
interests OF tho state shall he protected
aud how much may safely be left un-
done by this convention and in the
hands OF the legislature. There is moth
ing In this matter that the judiciary
committee can not tittingly perform in
q very short time, and II is willing to
Mr. Convey admitted that the rssolu-
ton was too broad, but he made the
point that there was
no SUCH TnisS
as judiciary committee of the conven-
ton. There was a committee on Judi
cial department, appointed especially to
devise a judicial system for the state and
for no other purpose. IL, because the
members Of that committee were all
lawyers, II was therefore the proper COM
mittce to consider the tide lands ques-
iion, then that was reason why that
resolution should go to that committee.
But there was no other reason that he
could see for sending II TO that commit
tee any more than To the committee ON
legislative department, II that commit
tee happened to be composed wholly Of
lawyers. But he could sec no reason for
taking this subject ffom the state lands
committee, where he thought II should
~. His suggestion would be to prove
the resolution or add i'as far as may be-
50 as to allow the committee to eN-
crcise its discretion, and then send IL to
the state lands committee.
Mr.. sullivan Of Tacoma took n similar
view, claiming that the members of the
committee ON judicial department had
been selected Because of their fitness to
judicial system, and the members OF the
state lands committee for their special
fitness 10 deal with tile whole subject of
the state lands. Hence he favored send
ing the resolution 10 the latter COM
mittcc.
MIR. browne said that inasmuch as
about half the mcmhers of the conyen-
ton either were or had been lawyers, he
thought they would substantially agree
a. lao
there was very ittloComplication in that
question. 1t was the question OF facts
that were complicated and should be
thoroughly investigated.
Mr. kinnear favored sending the reso-
luton to the state lands committee, as
being better advised from the best
sources on this matter.
Mr., Warner said all that was wanted
was 10 get simply the legal status of the
question, and consequently the judicial
committee should doit.
Mr., Jones opposed its reference TO the
judicial committee. and believed there
was sufficient legal ability in the state
lands committee To deal with this ques-
ton.
Mr.. Mires moved tho previous ques.
ton, and was sufficiently seconded.
The previous question was ordered.
l. n. Moore desired the floor. but the
president declined 10 permit any debate
after the previous question had been
Ordered. However, hs Mr.. Moore wos
the mover Of the resolution, aud there
fore entitled TO close the debate, he
would allow him the floor for that pur.
pose II here was no objection.
No objection appearing Mr.. Moore
said II was evident 10 him that the mem
beis wished the debate To end and so he
would not take up the time, but would
merely ask for tlie ayes and noes on the
motion TO amend by substituting "iu-
diciul committee for "state lands com
mittee." VIZ
The ayes and noes were ordered.
Willie the roll was chilled Mr. Dunbar