Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1889-01-18

man on the door Of this House, but be kne'
that both Mr., Lant and Col. Logan were IN
terested in the Arizona Land Company an
were trying TO set people interested in il |
some way becAusc he had himself pcrsonall
received great pile Of letters in relation &
it. He rememhered Of seeing in some pApc
that Col. Logan had go, COLONY of thirt,
OF more to 20 TO Arizona. IL they shoult
give their endorsement to any such scheme
he thought that they ~oa.d be deserving OF
the censuie of the people Of this State. Il,
sincerely hoped that the hall of the Hous,
of Representatives would not be granite,
for any such purpose.
/ MIR. Talbot Of East NaehiAs said that b,
had been listening quietly TO this debate aud
trying 10 ascertain what was the real CUES
ton Al stake. He heard some talk abou
danger To Maine. Is there to be an insur
reetion from Arizona? II 50 he hoped the
matter might come before this House in
some diferen, shape from what il now does.
He hoped the House would follow the lonl
established precedent, which he had the
right 70 say that he was as well acquainted
with as any other member, of granting the
| use Of this hall 10 any person who has any
| subject 10 lecture on which will have ten
dency 10 enlighten the Legislators in the dis
charge of their duties, He had heard nothing
from either side in regard To this matter
that shows that II was anything of that ma
ture whatever or Il at IT would help them in
the discharge of their duties. Ii had NOT
been the custom aud he hoped that they
would not establish the precedent of granting
the use Of the Hall for that purpose or for
any other purpose than that for which II has
heretofore been loaned. There were plenty
Of halls in Augusta that these gentlemen
could hire which were accessible to members
of the legislature aud he didn't think IL WAS
hardly fair 10 deprive Augusta people of that
profit when they get so very little out of the
Representatives. Laughter and applause.
Mr.. Msdigan of Houlton said that when
We give our consent TO any scheme tending
TO depopulate the State of Maine and take
and put it into Arizona and build up some
Western land company, then he thought We
we're going yond the sum of our duties As
Legislators. We need not fear that the
members will spend = cent of their pay
in taking these land stocks,
but what is that these men
wanty They certainly have some purpose
in coming here. Their coming here purely
from charitable motive for the purpose of
ing the territory of Arizona and ITS resources
is a very slim pretcIt. when money goes
out TO build up Arizona II is being money
taken away from the State of Maine where
it should be employed. II 10 our duty TO re-
fuse the use of this hall for any such pur-
pose. Were II purely for educational IN
struction or anything of that sort, were their
lectures for booming Aroostook, booming
Penobscot or any other county, or booming
any interest of the State of Maine, why that
would be one thing. but if their lectures
have for their object simply to enrich the
people of Arizona, and increase her populs
ton at the expense or the State Of Maine,
then 1t is the duty of this legislature 10 sit
down upon this proposition 50 squa-elv that
no similar proposition will ever be introduced
to us again. Applause,
Mr Piummer of Brunswick. said that he
did not consider that the matter under dis
cussion was wholly u matter Of courtesy.
1t was n matter of dollars and cents ss we'll.
Col. Logan isn't coming all the way from
Arizona To the State of Maine simply to edi-
fy our people. lie is after our young men
lie is after our money. He presumed that
humanity was about the same in Arizona AS
il was in Maine. lie will tell you of the
fertility of our soil, the superior facilities
for fruit gro wing, of their health restoring
climate and purity of the atmosphere aud
will claim that il contains the panacea for all
the ills with viii III humanity is afflicted.
Mr.. Plummer said that he was unfortunate
enough to be Obliged to spend siI weeks last
winter in the city of PbUniX, Arizona. lie
was allured there by just such claims A.
these, and by the highly colored pamphlets
that we're cirt ulaied over the land hoping
that his only son who was in poor health
ght be restored. But he found that they
had pictured things far above what they
would bear. You can take their statement
and divide it by two and then it can bear di
viding again in his judgment. MIR. plummer
then Described his experiences in Arizona
comparing with that of our own State. Its
health giving properties are overestim ited
lie had buried hi. son but n short time ago,
and very many who go TO Arizona from the
east die there. Mr., Plummer in closing said
II believe in full and free discussion of ali
questions presented here and am glad that
this matter has been well ventilated. II it is
IN order, | would now call for tha question.
Mr.. Pattangall said that when he voted on
the question yesterday he consid, red it mere
ly as matter of courtesy to somewhat
eminent gentleman in the State of Maine.
He believed that this hail had always been
accorded to anyone who came here 10 speak
upon any moral or decent subject. Some
gentlem men seemed TO think that they were
acting from legislative capacity upon the
question whether Arizona shall be doomed
or not. But after all some good hal grown
out of this discussion. Tn y had already
received a lecture upon Arizona which must
largely discount anything that Mr.. Lunt
could say. The lecture of the gentleman
from Brunswick vas most instructive and
dJuotles true, but he believed that they who
came here representing different constituent.
were under no obligation to them to say to
these ger tlemen that they should not come
here and lecture in this hall. lie
had been on the Pacific coast ans
xnew something about it. lie did not
propose to relate his experiences there, how
ever thrilling they might be to the gentle
men of this House. they had nothing To do
with it. twas simply a matter of courtesy
whether they should 1or should not PERM,
two gentlemen to come there and deliver a
lecture on Arizona.
On motion of Mr.. Pattangall the question
Of reconsider alton of the vote wa, taken by
yeas and nays
Yeas-A ehorn, Barker, Bennett, Berry
Bird, Bither, Brooks, Burnham, Carson.
Chapman, Clark Of Bangor, Clark Of Saco
Ciason, Closs0u, Cloutier, Crosby, Curtis of
Paris, Dsnfortb, Dingley, Eels, Emerson
Engel. Fieli French, Frees, clifford, Cor
don, Green. GriDdell of Hallo~ell. Harper
Hawkins. Head. Hill of Augusta. IIinckley.
Ingalls, Jordan Of W.tster, Jordan Of Wal
than, Lamb. Looney, McCsbs, Madigan
Malleit, Manley, Maxim, MichAud, Mitchell,
Morse Nash Newton. O'Brien, Osgoo1,
Palmer, Parker, Peaks, Pendleton, Plum
mer, Poor, Pottle, Race, Record, Robie
Robinson, Ross, Sprague, Stesrbs, S~eetser,
Talbot, Taylor, Thomas, Tilton, Turner,
Tyler. Vickery, Wakefield, Weed, Wheeler
Winter. Wing, Wl.weil, Woodsum-sO.
Nay-Adams of Limerick. Alden, Allen
Of Mercer, Alien of Wellington, Andrews,
Cain, Cbadboarne, Chaplin, Cole, Cook
Cote, Dane, Dickey, Doe, Edgecomb, Fer.
guson, Fogg, Foster, Fox, Frank, Goodvin,
Hamilton, Harrington, Hichborn, Hill of
Mars Hill ,fiolbrsok Joy ,kaler ,Keegan, Knee
land, Linnell, Little aeld Lombard, McIntire
Msrden. Marshall, Merrill, Moore, Morrill,,
Moulton Of ParsonsHeld, Mouiton Of VALE.
Murch, Nealey. Newcome, No~.ll, Psttsn.
gall, Perkins, Purington, Sheahzn, Smith
Spoford. Thurlox, Warren Of Castine, War
ren Of Deer Isle, Wentworth. Whitten oi
Lee. Whitten Of Portland 81.
AbseDt-Adams Of Belgrade, Burleigh
Dame, Curtis of Perkins, GoSell, Glover
Fiske, Grndle Of NJ, Desert Hsniey,
Hoyey, Hutcbins, Shaw, Wilbur-I3,
Ga motion Of Mr.. Msnley of Augusta, the