, 1889-07-25

was as competent to settle these ques.s
tions as any legislature and was sent'
here for the especial purpose fc5ing go.
There were principles OF governugntt to
be established and not matters OF legis-
latiOn.
Mr.. Hoyt said he should vote against
the substitute when that vote wast akep,
but thought it ought,to be perfected In
case II should pass after ull.
Mr.. Weir deprecated the tendency of
the cenvention to do legislation aud
claimed that the question of econohiys
was more important than some of the
delegates seemed to suppose. There
would be great opposition among the
people II n constitution was sent out'ttoA
them burdened with
HEAVY SALARY LIST.
This matter should be left to,the people,
> who would elect their Rss sf{tors to
ideal witfit. The best legal tafcnt would
be ready to take these offices IN apite of
the salaries not being fixed before their
Mr.. Minor thought a strict construc-
ton of the ast-otfered amendment
would leave the first judges without any
salary If the legislature could not in
crease il. after they had been elected on
no salary ~ all and he called for the
reading oft again,
Fifteen minutes eaNier Mr. Weir's
amendment couldn't get in by Mr..
Hoyts amendment and there had been
no change in events from a parliamentary
standpoint since then, but in some mys-
terio1s way 1t had got in and there 1t
was and was read,
Mr., Dunbar argued strongly In favor
of fixing the salaries now that the peo-
pie might know what was to he paid
and the men TO he elected judges might
, know what they were to receive. He did
not believe in so much talk about eCono-
tr,t. gN t.atf
always by the narrow rulc OF economy.
Mr. Dyer opposed both amendment
and substitute, and proposed to otler an
amendment himself after this one had
been disposed az
j. q, Moore1ollowed in the same line,
, though he didn't want to offer an
, amendment himself He believed the
people
WOULD SUPPORT THE CONVENTION
in doing the square thing all the time
Q lie thought this was duty of the con-
vention and ought not to be shirked and
? left TO the legislature. Moreover, he de-
I clared that the people ut large hud soma
4 sense and need not be treated like school
. children, aud would know when the con-
vention hud done the right thing. Prices
I for everything out here we're higher and
n living more expensive than in tho East
f and salaries ought TO be larger. When
2 a judge goes on the bench he should cut
himself loose from all other business
whatever, and you should be willing to
pay him enough to live on properly.
3. Mr.. Stiles said the salaries ought not
to be left to the legislature. The judges
y would be elected IN the dark and be COM
! PEELED to go to u legislature aud lobby
for their pay. He did not want to see
I such a sight and wanted the salaries
/ fixed now.
. Mr.. Wcir's amendment was lost Mr..
>. william substitute was also lost.
Mr.. Dyer moved TO amend by making
, the suprpmc judges salaries $1,000, and
r superior judges $1,000,
n Mr., Hoyt asked that the question be
divided and said Inc should vote for this
1 cut down, not because he thought 5000
y. was to much, but because he had put
himself on record the other day as being
willing to vote for this lesser salary in
- his anxiety to have five judges. Fol
this reason, and this only, he should
q vote for the amendment.
2 Mr. Turner said IL was dinner time
Q and moved that the committee rise ano
report progress. Lost. Mr. Turner sale
I that In view of a suggestion by some %
o his jealous friends and in the public
!. prints, that he-was TO he
CANDIDATE
y for the supreme bench, he was in a some
II what delicate position, in opposing thu
,, cutting down OF the salaries, but follow
ing the rule of his life not to let the pos
Y sibllity OF unpleasant consequences {,
e himself control him in the performance
e of his duty, he should oppose it becaus
D, he believed the larger sum TO be the fnir
" just and reasonable one. No man lit L
be supreme Judge should be asked {,
/ accept lcss than $4,000 who thought tn
honor of position might he held t'
count for something Nor was the az
of gregatc sum TO be paid to the judges >,
h large as to friEhten anyone.
Is II only amounted TO $4,000 as he fig
urcd II, and this was fixing the Salarie
d for the future when the state should b
" both great and wealthy, An iniustic
IS would be done to the statc Itself If tn
salaries were reduced below the sum
fixed by the committee.
Mr.. Dyer appreciated all that Ina,
l. been said. but still thought $1,000
II pretty good salary when the prcsen
chief Justice only got $4,000 and the asso
u ciatcs only $1,000, and he doubtc,
Of whether judges or lawyers mndc NOR
&c than these figures from lcgtimat
practice. OF course judges and lawyer
Ie had made good deal in real estate an,
= would go on doing so, lac suppressed, afte
IS bctug elected TO these now judgeships
but that was not a legitimate practice.
le Mr.. Eshelman moved to rise and re
Of port progress. Lost by vote of aye
or 25, noes II.
1t MIR. Hicks Offered an amendment, Civ
sociatc on the supreme bench $4,000
n Lost
N Mr.. Sudksdorf moved to amend b,
l. making the supreme court judges salar
t. les $500.
m Mr.. Buchanan said he perceived n dis
position To crowd this matter to a con
or cluSion before rising tonight, and tina
was not right. Hence he proposed to b
II heard, although he had not Intended t,
o. speak. There was another way of look
le ing at 1t, and that was counting it b,
&c the day--$3OOO was about S1l
10 per day, very good wages
$fO00.was SIS 80 per day, aud S50o0 wa
1t SIG 90 per Nay. II looks larger when i
er Is looked at in this way. The average
Of farmer in the state who works han
ward these big salaries Is satisfied if h
Or kind who gets $4,000 or $4,000 is wei
paid l win go $4,000 but NOT cei,
I'd more. | wish l had the education O
K some Of your lawyers. daughter ant
he cries of Question.
Mr. Warner protested against shutting
~ OIL debate by calling for the question ii
:. this way and threatened to move tha
,d the committee rise If it was continued
rs MIR. Weir thought the figures of th
amendment were large enough.
n Mr. Warner said the committee di
7, hnot seem inclined to rise and he pre-
it posed TO speak on the subject II he kep
or them here until 10 O'Clock. lie
4 MIGHT NOT coNvINcE THIN
r. to support this amendment, but he pre-
as posed to'stata his reasons for supportin
he It. He noticed that there had been a
O. earnest effort all along TO get ON tho tn,