The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1889-07-30
ROYALTY A BIG BURDEN.
THE HOUSE FURTHER TALKS OVER
THE GRANTS.

John Morley's Efforts to Fave a Limit
Fixed Barring Out the Younger
Members of the Royal FamiIy-The
Government Trying to Dodge the
Proposed Restriction.
LONDON, July 29.-The House of Com
mons, sitting in committee of the whole.
resumed the debate on the royal grants bill
to-day
John Morley moved an amendment de-
claring The House is unwilling to increase
the burdens of the people without assurance
that no further claims will be made for the
younger members of the royal family.n
lie denied that he opposed the grants, be-
cause he dare not openly attack the crown.
lie opposed them, he said, because parlia-
ment had in no degree failed to comply
with any provisions of the act of 1887.
NO CASE MADE OUT.
The government has not made out their
case either in the select committee or in
the House. Parliament had already liber-
ally provided for all the children of the
queen. 1t had not been shown that re-
trenchments might not be made in the ex-
penses upon royalty without causing the
queen any anxiety. He especially
objected to the assertion of the claim
to grants of the grandchildren of the
queen. Lord Hartiugton's speech on Fri
day clearly indicated an intention to pre-
serve that right for future use. 1t was pro-
posed not to restrict these claims to the
children Of the heir apparent, but to open
them to the grandchildren Of the sovereign
generally. He moved an amendment in
order to prevent reassertiou and reaffirma-
tlon of the claim, the justice of which he
denied.
CHAMBERLAIN REPLIES.
Mr.. Chamberlain said that Mr.. Morley
objected to the grants because no finality
was promised, but as regarded the present
reign the proposed grants were absolutely
final. He did not think that after the
queens promise any minister would advise
any sovereign to ask further grants for
other grandchildren of her majesty. 1t
was argued that there was no security
against such grants in the event of a new
reign, but a general declaration agaius5
them would be worthless, as the whole
question must be decided when the civil list
was discussed.
NIHILISTS OF ENGLISH POLITICS.
Mr.. Chamberlain denied that Mr. Labou-
chere and his colleagues repr esented the
people. They only represented small
late the popular prejudices to which they
truckle- 1t was shameful to fawn upon d
monarch, but it was still more shameful to
truekle to the multitude. The members
who We're doing so were nothing less than
the nihilists of English politics. Loud
conservative cheers and radical groans.
WELCOMED BY MORLEY.
Mr.. Labouchere SAID he hailed Mr.. Nor
ley's amendment as practical refusal of
fu ther grants during the present reign.
With future reigns he would not trouble
himself. Sufficient for this reign were the
grandchildren thereof Public opinion
versal acceptance of the principle
that thes sovereign, like---Iany other
head OF family ought to provide for her
children. The conservatives who in and
out Of season had villified Mr. Gladstone,
were now ready to fall down and worship
him, because on the question Of the grants
he had turned their way. They would
worship the devil himself under similar
circumstances. [Cries Of "order"l In
and his colleagues would be
beaten on the division, but he intended to
oppose the grants at every stage as a moral
protest against the crowns claim.
Mr.. Morley's amendment was defeated by
vote of 355 to 1874. Mr.. Gladstone, the
Parnellites and the bulk of the dissidents
again voted with the government.
The minority included Sir William Ver-
non Harcourt, Sir George 0. Trovelyan,
Rt. Hon Hugh c. Childers, RI. Hon.
George Shaw-Lefevre and RI. Hon. A.. J.
Mundela Sir William Vernon Harcourt
said he would vote against the grants be-
cause the accompanying declarations of
principle were altogether unsound.
The queen, according to the governments
declarations. waived further claims for
her grandchildren, vet the government per-
sisted in keeping alive those claims and
tried to perpetuate them.