The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1889-07-30
Earnest Plea Against Pensioning the Younger
Members of the Royal Family-Mr. Glad
stones Great Speech Last Week.
Boulangism Almost Wiped 0utofFrench
Politics by the Elections of Sunday.
A Letter to the Dublin Corporation from Pres
ident Harrison Found to Have Been Tam
pered With-American Shooters Honored.
GRANTS TO ROYALTY.
Mr.. Morley's Amendment Against Claims In
the Future BADLY Defeated.

Mr.. Moriey's Amendment Against Claims In
the Future Badly Defeated.
LONDON, July 2s.-The House of Com
mons, sitting in committee OF the whole,
resumed the debate on the royal grants
bill to-day. Mr.. John Morley moved an
amendment declaring that the House is
unwilling to increase the burdens of the
people without assurance that no further
claims will be made for younger members
OF the royal family. He denied that he op-
posed the grants because he dared not open
ly attack the crown. He opposed them, he
said, because Parliament had in no degree
failed to comply with any provision of the
act of 1887. The government had not made
out their case either in the select commit
tee or in the House. Parliament had al
ready literally provided for all the chill
dren of the Queen. 1t had not been shown
that retrenchments might not be made in
expenditures upon royalty without causing
the Queen any anxiety. He especially OBJ
jected to the assertion of the claim to
Lord Hartington's speech on Friday indi-
Gated an intention to preserve that right
for future use. 1t was proposed not to re-
strict these claims to the children of the
heir apparent, but to open them to
grand-chiIdren of the sovereien generally.
vent reassertion and reaffirmatIOn of
claim the Justice of which he denied.
Mr.. Chamberlain said Mr.. Morley objected
to the grants because no finality was PROM
ised, but as regarded the present reign the
proposed grants were absolutely final He
did not think that after the Queens prom
ise any Minister would advise any sover-
eign TO ask further grants for other grand
children of her Majesty. 1t was argued
that there was no security against such
grants In the event of new reign, but a
general declaration against them would be
worthless, as the whole question must be
decided when the civil list was discussed.
Mr.. Chamberlain denied that Mr.. Labou-
chere and his colleagues represented the
minority. nHri TIey did dia their utmost to stimu- %
late the popular prejudices to which they
truokled. 1t was shameful to fawn upon
monarch. but it was still more shameful to
truckle to the multitude. The members
the Nihilists of English politics. Loud
Conservative cheers and Radical groans.l
Mr.. Labouchere said he hailed Mr.. Nor
ley's amendment as a practical refusal of
further grants during the present reign.
As to future Eeigns. he would not trouble pie
grandchildren thereof. Public opinion was
making strides toward q universal accept
ance of the principle that the sovereign.
like any other head of family, ought to
provide for his children. The Conserva-
tives, who in and out of season had vilified
Mr.. Gladstone, wero now ready to fall
down and worship him, because in the
question of the grants he had turned their
way. They would worship the devil him
self under similar circumstances. Cries of
"Order"] In conclusion he said that he aud
his colleagues would be beaten on the divis-
ion, but he intended to oppose the grants
at every stage, as moral protest against
the crowns claim.
Mr.. Morley's amendment was defeated by
$50 to 134, Mr.. Gladstone, the Parnellites
and the bulk of the dissidents again voting
with the government.
The minority included Sir VIM. Vernon
Harcourt, Sir George o. Trevelyan, Right
Hon. Hugh Childers. Right Hon. George
Shaw-Lefevre and Right Hon. A. J. Mum
dell. Sir William Vern0n-Harcourt said he
would vote against the grants because the
accompanying declarations of principle
were altogether unsound. The Queen, ac-
cording to the governments declarations,
waived further claims for her grand
children, yet the government persisted in
keeping alive these claims, and tried to
perpetuate them.