New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-05-24
o,pRrEN ADMITS IT ALL.
.,xnNe BY EVERYTHING HE E'hI
WROTE OR SAID.
,.sr DAY OF THE cRoss.ExAM1NATloN VI --'-
,,,sH LEADER BEFORE THE PARNELb 0o"'
-ox, ,yrpRnsrING TESTIMONY.

n,v or THE CRoSS.EX AM1NAEloN VIZ ~
u,r.prR BEFORE THE PARNELb CUM
,,ss,ou INTERESTING TESTIMONY
X-aon NAV aa.-Mr. Gladstone was present
st the session of the Parnell Conn. Ooin 0'pr;en wos.
: 1a.,ss,.s ans hv Attorney General Webster. M
Cn~s. d.c,sre[ that United Ireland" ms paper,
.,,sI oc.ora;n., 70 constitutional methOos' aIu
's,oa NOTHING hut peaceful means 10 atOaIl .
~ 80 .oash4 nv the Irish Parliamentary pslS'
- ss.,,,..S writing on article. when hAa neei'
..,ssS ,o q limited Ireland" in wnch ~ VOC
p's a., ou.en Victoria was only kno"h -
go a Nv her scarcely decently disgn1seu h"Geo
~sI.s,. "A ana nv her inordnate salafy' "s aaSo
ss.a;,..d h.vina written another sfucis
49,. ~, speneer would be the last sef'hk Dnk
,;-,,,ar u,oo would attempt TO RUE itei""u :,
-, na;d perjury, butchery ana 'ie uSe VI
srs' parosiies' r." p He admitted the authorship also
'i,e So - a.claring that the chairman OF tne
sa-.ro,,,se selected 70 receive the Ftlhoe Vi W"o
40, Ns.~s,or ~ his visit 70 Ireland wouio De
hunted from public NE. - .;.o1 .nd
A. al. noIpt Mr.. O'Brien became eNcitso' sn"
. .s.,,sr,ly exclaimed: BE has been, ana ratner
-, :. aI,ow Englishmen 10 be deceived oy
49,, a, sham loyalty. I am resolved to tell them
continuins Mr.. o'Brien said that he personally
"a .s,,sr spoken disrespectfully or ofensiveiy
-, ,bs Prince of Wales No people, ne ae-
~,.-.S aver suffered more for loyalty than Irish
- and ncne profted more by their protcsta-
,,ons az Ioyalty than the people who oppreSSeu
.t.m If Il was clear that England would not
s.tsfy the aspirations Of Ireland, and II tnrre
80 any NATIONAL chance Of success an attempt
.,nulS be made 20 rebel He declared the London
nansrs were more responsible for the actions OF
,,s dynamite party than was either Finerty or
Ford But for the views those papers had ex-
pressed 200 pounds would not have been col
Iected In America for the use Of the dynamiters
Referring to the articles concerning the Queen
and the Prince of Wales. previously mentioned
IN his testimony, Mr.. O'Brien said they were
justified at the time they were written, but were
not justified in the present state Of the relations
between England and Ireland. The articles were
mot intended 70 calm the peoples objections to
British ruiz as then administered. He thought
British rule hateful then and be thought II hate
ful now. The Parnelltes when the visit OF the
Prince of Wales was under discussion by the
authorities passed q resolution advising the people
that the visit was not intended for party pur-
posex. and should not be made the occasion for
trouble. This action of the Parnelftes resulted
In creating feeling Of calmness in public opinion.
The Prince of Wales allowed 10 pass
Ireland untroubled until The Times
published articles declaring that his visit had
crushed the power Of MIR. ParnelL 1t was then
thought desperately necessary TO show Englishmen
that this was mistake, and that the Princes
visit was being used to strike down the Irish
cause
Mr.. o'Brien explained that when he made the
speech in which he used the words, We are in q
state of civil war, tempered by scarcity Of fire
a srn,ss he was exasperated By his expulsion from
10 Flsnsc OF Commons and spoke under intense
,eeains caused BY the fearful hatred displayed by
The mai .dty OF the House Of Commons against the
irish members Of that body He declared that II
any people ever had the right 70 rebel the Irish
people then had that right, il there was chance
Attorney General Webster interrupted the wit
ness at this point, saying: You only objected 10
rebellion because IL was hopeless z"
Mr. O'Brien-In the circumstances OF the times,
Violent language could not have
'urvher influenced the peoples minds against Eng
and Their minds had become like lightning
conductor when the air is charged with electricity
AR O'Brien justified certain articles written by
aim and printed in United Ireland" to illustrate
me brutal argument that because the English pe9-
,Ooo 900, the English were entitled to do as they
lked.
Attcrney-General Webster quoted from an article
n United Ireland headed, Alien Larkin and
D Brien Honored by their Chicago Kindred, and
.sked the witness whether IT referred 70 the Man
Mr.. oBrien replied: :" Not murderers. but men
engaged in open warfare who shot policeman Dy
The ATTORNEY Gcneral-Thc shooting at the police
n o van at Manchester was legitimate warfare
Dir. 0Brien-lt was not criminal Men VINO
,penly take risks TO release their comrades are NO
more murderers than anybody here. They acted
from the highest and noblest motives.
Attorney General Webster lholding up q. paper
do you see the heading Allen, LAFkin ana
)'Brien Honored by their Chicago Kindred
Mr.. o'Bsien-Yes; and the article was "rle'en
The prooecaings were here interrupted by cries
Attorney General webster-why those hears" ?
Presiding Justice Hannen threatened that II
room cleared He said he understood that Mr..
O'Brien did not consider the shooting at Manches-
ter murder. but be wished 70 remind him that the
court did so regard It,
Mr. o. Brien said he and Mr.. Redmond invited
Mr. Ford 10 be present at the Chicago Convention.
As proof of the change in feeling wrought by
Mr. Gladstone, Mr. OBren cited the fact that
Mr.. Ford feemed 10 regret his former views ard
appeared To be harmless.
This ended Dir. O'Brien's testimony.
A deputstion from ysrioSs Irish municipal bodies
him upon his success in disproving
before the Commission the many ealumnies which
bad been heaped upon him.
Mr. ParneIi replied that he WAS sure the Irish
municipal authorities would continue to use their
not for the purpose Of the disintegra
ion OF the Empire nor for upsetting the authority
II the Qneen, but for obtaining the realization OF
heir legitimate aspirations. He had never doubted
hat the falSity Of the forged letters would ulti-
nately be shown. lie would rather have gone 10
tie grave with the stigma Of the letters upon him
han have submitted his country 10 the humiliat-
ng ordeal which 10 was proposed TO place upon IL
s an accompaniment OF the inquiry into the
utherticity of the letters. Right had been trans
nessed under the preteNt of an inquiry into crime
political issue had been laid before men not com.
,eteDt to give fair decision. He had never con-
emplated the failure Of Parliamentary action. II
onvinced OF Its futility. he and his colleagues
would not remain in the House Of Commons
weBty-four hours He believed in the near
eslization Of their hopes.
ADJUSTING THE COPPER TROUBLES
fsrs. May 23.-Tbs American copper mine dele
'stes with the exception Of the representatives Of
he Tamkrack nina have ratified the provisional