Fort Worth daily gazette. (Fort Worth, Tex.) 1882-1891, 1889-07-27
A CRY FOR CASH.
Government Representatives Still Fight
ing for the Royal Grants.
Mr. Bradlaugh Makes Mild Charge of Past
MisapproprIatiOn-The Dervishes Con-
eentrating Their Forces.
THE PAY OF ROYALTY.
The Debate on the Grant to the Queens
Family Grows Warm.


The Debate on the Grant to the Queens
Family Grows Warm.
LONDON, July 26.-When debate on
the royal grants was resumed in the
house of commons to-day, Mr.. Brad
laugh said he found some difficulty in
discussing the question calmly when
Mr.. Balfour, outside of the house, de-
nounced objections as disgusting and
sordid. The opponents of the grants
meant nothing personally discourteous
to the members of the royal family, but
we've simply acting within their rights
when they met the demands OF the crown
on the question of finance with q direct
negative. Much of the argument in favor
oil grants was based on the erroneous idea
that the crown, under the civil list acts
from George l. EDWARDS, surrendered its
private property in exchange for the civil
list. Neither George I. nor his successors
Mr.. Bradlaugh declared, surrendered
anything. The present royal family
never surrendered anything of a farth-
ing value to the country. The commit
tee of inquiry had ELECTED the fact that
during the present reign savings, upon
certain classes under the civil list act
instead of being applied to defray the
charges Of other classes, had been
handed to the queen without authority
of parliament, in breach of the statute
Cries Of Hear, hear. -
Ri. Hon. w. II. Smith, the govern
ment leader, denied that the alleged
savings of the queen were over three mil
lion pounds, but he declined to show how
much money had either been saved by
the queen or drawn by other members of
the royal family from all sources.
Mr.. LabOuchere said there oGght to be
nothing to conceal. The refusal of the
government to disclose the wealth
amassed by royalties justified the aver
sion of the country to royal grants.
Cheers.
Lord Randolph Churchill announced
that the original demands of the govern
ment were just, besides being in con-
fOrmity with precedent. If burdens
SYere thrown upon the crown not intended
under the civil list act it would impair
the credit of the nation and of parlia-
ment. Mr.. Bradlaugh had questioned
the title of the crown to its estates, but
successive parliaments had recognized it
and none of the greatest lawyers had ever
yet challenged the crown. He reminded
the house that Sir Henry r. Ponsonby,
her majesty s private secretary, a few
years ago denied reports that the queen
was making immense investments on
ground rents, and stated that
she had not millions to in
vest in anything. Lord Randolph
said that the Radicals 'Overestimate of the
queen s wealth was designed to excite
popular feeling against royalty. He OBJ
jected to the adoption of methodssthe
purpose of which was to fOment clamoIF
against the throne, which, in spiteof
them, would remain steadfast in thesaf-
fections of the people. TCheers.
Mr.. Labouchere IS motion to adopt his
substitute report of the royal grants COM
Inittee was rejected by a vote OF 29S to
ZIG.
Mr.. Morley viii, on Monday move an
amendment declaring that the house is
unwilling to. increase the burden of the
people unless assurances are made that
no further claims for the younger mem
bers of the royal family will be made.
Lord Harrington complained of Mr..
Bradlaugh' IS pedagOgic air. He said that
if it was true that the law was CONTRA
vened in allowing civil list SURPRISES
to accrue to a crown and it was almost a
case for Impeaching the present and
former ministers. 1t was impossible, he
commended, to lay down hard and fast
rule. He thought the queen s waving
the claims of the younger children met
The present case and that the future
might be left to q future parliament. In
any case, the queens message was
worthy of respectable attention.
Sir Wiifred Lawson twItted the Con-
servatives for refusing a grant to the
prince consort and evoked laughter by
recalling certain uncomplimentary refer
enoes made by MIR. Chamberlain to
royalty.
Mr.. Goschen, chancellor of the ex-
chequer, after refuting III detail the con-
tentions of Messrs. Labouchere and
Bradlaugh, contTasted Mr.. Glad
stone g dignified utterances with those
heard tonight and said that there was
little need to fear the result of the de-
bate.
Mr. Gladstone, MIR. Morley, Sir Will
liam Vernon Harcourt, Mr.. Parnell, Mr..
Q 'Brien and the bulk of Liberals and
ParneIlites voted with the majority. The
Radical minority includes Sir J. O.
Trevylan, Richard Chamberlain and I.
F. o Conner.