New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-09-18
se any statement, Al had agreed through my

Q.-And had you made any statements up 10 'he
Goth OF March Ayes. sir. -
Q.-Do you remember how many Al ,S could
should saw on seven or eight different days may
have gone ovcy. the same thing twice. ,,..o
against Movers executors and Ives and stayner and
ash you you were not after your counsel han s siD
esrSSi% as Witness AHYes sir
o.-Wherel AIT the Office of Frank r. lawrence
III o Sne you there testify as follows in relation TO
ME-. Christopher Meyer-n response 10 ne TO-
the oIcSst,on Of Ives Co. or of the sooaed Gin,
einnsti did not Did you so testify
oScw on page l7s read io1 from the r SsSS Of
your examinatondd you Of not Daf sock ogsson-
What did he do with the list? Answer.-ihe i4so
Of Was in his i1 hands e he Tsc
IN, ,'T So Ui 90 testify' Al dill testify that time
@ fa5! sSF a!eDO% YOU ever
give him any statement relating to the operatGnS b -,
ives sxc% Co.; d,d or not@ 0 Did You so testify Al did
ONWere both those statements true! A'-lno
's'es TSs was false and true We're boh made
under osth9 The one that was false TOO A'-i'9'
sir 1t wss' when you made IT you knew you were
sommitthing ye wiii sr. az" did.
not, IN the last examination in which you sTore
YOU ala mI' vou not The statement made to me
ssobStantslly by the District Attorney that wo
AM S t%h and the whole truth would be treated
ien,ently but If refused to answer any quesorii ~
my sn so~pG to be- untrue I would then be pro,
ceeded against as originally intended QuGSu1,nI @
Won know so Answer don't know So
Because left It with my counsel have eEe,y ,' 90
con IN believe so. He has told me So plu !ou ~
,e or All II IS down there so testified
oEThen did YOU continue further fur 'it thS D,etpict
Attorneys Office TO get his consent TO Nour & oncs
in this case before you testified ~ Nv Tour
counsel or some ne Consented did he not your ct
IN Meter ami ives tdSc' -,
sywerI had been 50 assured Question: on declneeP
10 1Siu d % not 70" oucstionYou required such
assurance in some form before yon testified NnsN
did p pSt T Tom sS testify 8iy %I believe
QI now refer 10 page IL OF that cas- QUESTION
please state what conversations If any you hau No., T
Mr. Meyer in reference 10 ie only
Conversation / can recollect is that one time Mr
Meyer SN ,b sa' Neer lad been gotten away WITH 10
you recollect so testifyng! A-1es' ST. +os,,monv
given on july L. 1853 after your arrest ouS,stiom
bid Mr. Meyer anything TO yop N leIcenfe
or the purchase and sale of that interest! AnsweFr
he dq one of these two was true and
the other false Was It? Ayes. ST. 90 ho
A9a Whichever GRS wsS false You e%' sir 10
o.And. so knowing, you committed perjury III
o. now refer to page ia Of your examination in
December, 1855 Did testify referring to C eer RaG
sworn 10, in answer to this question Just give US
he statements that were made! AnswerLIho sIS1o
stock purchased by the syndicate ate,
Mr. Meter Tas bought out Of M or s share
Of the profits of the syndicate d no | tae
pencil and piece of paper and figure ont for bis
benefit how m1G6 deenGe IN in b p rc e9 at %h
the stock was held BY the sy0dicate' Did you swear
o.@wen that being contradiction of your state
that Meyer Tcsr ae sPynE he 10 soe Sd
~ the other of these statements was
Q..And yoq knew ii to be false when you sVOre
Q.-And knowingly committed perjury in so swear
Q.-T6e various statements that you made, SIX, or
seven, or eight, or whatever they were we're all re-
Q.-Were they taken down from your lips by
oSWeere they frequently altered A.-No, SIR.
know they were corrected in some instances.
Odd you Sign them' Al don't recollect
,o-what boca@c Of that one Al don't know.
o.-What became of the SIX or seven YOU did not
sign Al believe they're in charge OF The District
Odd you copy any of thcm' Al copied two
o.-Have you got them A.No, SIR. They are at
o:-weil demand that you produce them. pro
o-Dd you see the article published in The World :
II September .. purporing to be your statement
Q-Do you know how that got into fine world'
Odd the data 10 any body 10 put there
Did you give the statement TO ANYBODY to publish
Had you anything 20 do with the publication OF ,ha,
s s5Se 10 A me RSen read aotnns " was
Q-The language was yours? 1t was like your
Old YOU see The Evening sun of last satur-
day2 Ayes, SIR No.. ..,.,- .,o..
o4 YOU F gad tie four Or yG r columns there
o~Do You know how that got into "The Sun"
% WDi az you furnish the statements A.-Yo.
Q-Had you anything to do with its publication?
oNwas not that statement literally YOUR languase'
Al think was very close to one OF noc ives
had forged the initials of Meyer TO certain synaca.e
pool agreement. referred TO in your testimony III inc
Meter cssel Ayes.
Here Mr. Brooks read another screed' of Wood
rff's testimony, in which he had identified the agree
ment and the signed initials Of Ives, stayner Never
and himself, and had detailed with cirumstan'iah'y
how ives, stayner and Meyer held daily conferences
before the agreement drawn, and finally sighea
IL in his presence and got his signature as witness
not allowing him 10 read 1t. however. Il tried to
read it, Woodruff had said, in his chihlEe and Dlahu
way IL because had some curiosity as TO what hdl
been going on thought il some new deal that
ought TO have hand nP
"Now Mr.. Woodruff, did you 50 TESTIFY " aShco
Mr. Brooke once more Il did, said the seli-con
fessed perjurer. m
Then woodruff identified his signature on an afi-
dayit made on February 4, 1889, before "afueh
Heating at Ludlow Street Jail In this ahdaVlt ne
repeaed the story Of having seen the signing oil the
agreement by Ives stayner and Meyer. But Wood
ruff presently declared that this aihdaVit thousn mn
signature was attached TO 1t, had been oictateu u!
ives and not by him
Once more Mr. Brooke made woodruff acknowleoge
perjury. bringing that about in this manner;
Q-when you called at Ludlow street jail upon inc
day this ahdayft was sworn TO- you had not oo0n
arrested? A.-No. sir. W t
Q-Were you anticipating arrest ALNo, SIT ~
q Had YOU been in communication VITA any ono
about your arrest ANO, sir; except with MI ives
Who said would not be arrested that he "oulo al
range all for me- =. - l., ,o,,. ! o,,d
Odd YOU not have the Meyer paper In your hand
and evan1ine II that day? Al may have. .
Odd YOU not ash Mr. Ives to give you the MEYER
ok m ne adjoining