New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-05-17
DUNRAVEN'S LETTERS.
READ BEFORE THE AMERICAS CUP COM,
MITTEk
lie CoMMENDs THE COURSE BUT SUGGESTS
CHANGES IN THE TIME OF sTAETISG-A
DISCUSSION OF THE QUESTIONS TO

HE CoMMENDs THE COURSE BUT SUGGESTS
CHANGES IN TIE TIME OF sTAETIYG-A
DISCUSSION OF THE QUESTIONS TO
DE HELD NEXT WEEK
At the special meeting held last night by the New
York Yacht Club the minority Of the Americas Oup
Committee reported that It had been Impossible 10 90
tain quorum in the committee since inc Dunra'oh
letters were received last Monday The three letters
however were read The first expressed regret tna'
Lord Dttnravep had been unable to answer the COM
mitees letter as he had been away in Ireland inc
second which was dated May and addressed 10 james
d. Smith, chairman Of the committee was As IoIo~S
have the htIsr to acknowledge the receipt oil your
letter OF the 18Th inst, and desire TO tender my oo
thanks to the committee for their kind oner 0t N'I
ance and also for their courtesy In Sccedns In many
respects 20 my suggestions % conditions oil sahnE
regards the second paragraph In nay FORMER e.,,
alluded 10 in yours, thank the committee LOT PHs
out that the classification Of yachts under the racing
rules Of the New-YOrk Yacht Club does not Apply 70
races for any challenge cups held by or belonging
tho club am aware also that while the various uee.H
OF Gift evidently contemplate considerable uluerenSe IA
the sze OF vessels no special rule Is laid down LOT
classifying them. / was, however, under no mSappes
henslon as to the question involved fully reeoghLeu
and recognize the perfect right OF the Ne"-s0rA -
Club 70 meet me with any vessel that comes "llhn
tho limits laid down In the deed Of gift undsr "hi'n
my challenge was made and accepted
NV reasons for sending ValkyTe's length on ne
L. w L. were: First, as matter Oh courtesy 0US'''''
l believe. by all recent chacngers secondly because
challenging yachts Of lac years have been met by !N
OF practically the same length on the j.. w. L. ana
tbl,aIy because thought 1t would be convenience 10
the Ncw.York Yacht Club TO know that NaIkyne came
within their third seyenytoot class should they hSA
nc TO class tho competing vessels and thus complete VIC
apnicaon OF the principle Of sailing International mache'
under the rules governing ordinary local aeoa prhcpe
in force in all other important points such ~ measure
nent OF hull and sail time allowance ana mehoo'
OF starting Those my reasons, ana trust tue e'in
mce will clearly understand that In stating that Vakyrs
was designed iuto your third class had no III
cntOn of conveying any opinion as t" the iensh OF
description Of vessel which should have to sail
DATE OF RACES.
am quite willing aecede 70 the request OF the com
rnec that the be sailed on Tuesday OCTOBER l.
But as for many IL Is desirable that the natehes
should not extend over Dng period Of tine suHEeN
for consideration that the dai be Tuesday October
THURSDAY, October g. aud Monday. October - OF II
Monday uconventcnt day, TueSdHy October 8.
With regard ~ courses I am glad the committee has
agreed that the matches shall be sailed Outside On my
part willingly accept their proposition as % the dlfec'
don Of courses namely First raceTo Wndward or leo
ward, and seccud racc-Eauiiactal triangle Oh
one side CtEe first possible " windward Third race
10 wlndwsrd (or lCcwsUlJ ard return. Fourth race
Bquoteral triangle a, in second race. F1itA rAeeT0
wlndward tor lccwardJ and return.
LENGTH OF COURSES.
have pleasure also In agreeing to the committees
proposal that be Thirty nautical miles In
length Instead forty the tim" for making the races 70
reduced proporuouSte!y As the committee DO not see
their way adopt my suggestion a. TO time ALLOWANCE
accept the Scw.YoTk Yacht Club rule. Having Rreed
the committees Proposition as " the aifeouoh ''
courses my suggestion in paragraph Of my tofmeF
lrucr becomes impracueabc nm anxious only that he
compass bearing be LONG time a. possible Deiolo
the start and sakcGo carry lorsc and easily
dstlngu,hsbo nag But al tbe-o detars may convent
emily be left until ny arrival In America
TINE or STARTING.
csuno, concur with tho opinion expressed sJ the
committee a. % the time Of starting. whatever foco
there nay be IN the objections urged 70 my piopoeI That
the r,ees be started at the specified time. submit that
Tn, same apply equally both partes and ~ cannot y"
the cause and be imagined to DO the cause OF AnJ
unfarncss Cndof ordinary circumsidnces the committee
would be perfectly right. but n the time " starting IN
,r,natopsl races b. left entirely 70 sailing committee
Il obvious that their actions and motives rnaY b. liaoio
to HIscouoepton the part Of thc public INC ~,
rabnlty of - far possible guarding asaia'' any 'ueh
Misunderstanding will am sEc. commend ii~it 70 th7
,,,sn ,rs .bould be glad - they vii reconsider
mi. point A an alternative u my former f"auo@"
suggest that The question Of starting b lett IN s hsh
Of tho sailing committee. provided that whatever 'n''
opinion may be Ia that respect s'ar' ahau 1A' pa
81 the specified tu1c should either Of the competing ysehI
desire II.
THE UMPIRE
In my formcr letter omitted 10 mention The question
~ uruui,r No doubt any gentleman suggested DE ur
Vow. Yacht Club Wplll " alN'psAS'' d" mr.
may ssy that H. a reported IN the p9Pf'' Oeh''4 f"u'
ain NOT be himself aaoa,. / should fe" not only sails
an yu, compmcn,cd u he would consent to act
tpk YOU for -audng your oubbooA iof l4a1 1''' '-
.,,r rl-h 10 express my appreciation ot Tho most
g,nd and courteous orct OF assisAAce lfOH' '"H'" ~ Wv
other member, Of the committee
Tn. third letter, dated May and Addressed 10
= : Oddlo tie secretary, was:
hive the plcasuFc u acknowledge IN receipt :" '"u
letter u the IIA uI and would ask you 70 convey nv
encore haGks to the NcwYork Yacht Club Tor their KIM
,rer ID, hpspitaIuy 81 which hop" 10 avail mV~f
with regard to the second paragraph Of your "'N''
eo,,a,lv va. under the Impression that by your cab1eSAm
o., tho I'm af April ia reply Mr.. Richard Grants Letter
~ c 18th Of March my challenge bad bocn accepted on
Tho conditions governing the Volunteer Thistle nAch anu
,ru,, there Is no misundestandnG on the point ha' 'S
possibly give rise U any complications
I am not competent 10 disCuss The conditions unu''
hirh the cup should held and challenged Tor IN h'
ru,u-e but would point out that II the Ne"'i"A i',h'
Club retains the cup poSIon will be the same ~ Dc
fore my challenge. II. am fortunA" enough
To win the forms upon which tho cup u s'I'f"Siu H
could then b. discussed with the Royal Yacht AauSlron
The inconvenience Of snv negotiations between inc ""
yorE y,cb, Club and the Royal Yacht SQUADRON bcil2
carried on pending the sailing OF tho races !" =" h'
b.t venture TO express strong hope that any discus
sion ar ding from difference Of opinion may " 'o'"
ooned until after the decision Of the match.
All these commune ationg weru again rAierreh Tor
scnn Ia the America. Cup Committee. The quoSuo :
nyoyed will not lie discussed By the committee uHui
next week, probably ON Tuesday
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