The Helena independent. [volume] (Helena, Mont.) 1875-1943, 1889-02-13
LECARON'S STORY.
The English Spy Tells the Parnell
Commission the Price He Re-
oeiyed from the Tories.
HOW HE MET PARNELL.
Why O'Donovan Rosa Was Expelled
from the Irish Organization-Par-
neIps Attempt to Break Up
the Revolutionary Party.

LONDON, Feb. l2.-The cross-examina-
tion OF Lecaron was continued to-day. lie
said he had visited Europe i've times since
1867, sometimes lna professional capacity
and sometimes unprofessionally. He re
ported himself 10 the authorities ON each
occasion. except In 1867. Neither oKelly
nor Parnell had written him. The Fenians
expelled o'Kelly, witness said, because he
had Joined with Parnell in the open
movement. OBeary denounced O'kelly.
Witness believed 0'Leary was violent
opponent 10 the league. Continuing, wit
ness said he delivered sealed packet from
DeVOy and O'Leary 10 Egan In Paris
In 1881, and he acknowledged that
the security of the seals alone pre-
yenled him from opening the packages.
lie again saw Egan in America In 1898.
Later Egan introduced him 10 Parnell In
the lobby OF the house OF commons. lie
conversed with Parnell and was compli-
mented by him ON his work. The Irish
Republican brotherhood was then opposed
10 Parneli, SO far as the home organization
was concerned. Parnell complained Of
this opposition, and said that the home and
sister organization would have been Grip
pied had they not obtained assistance from
America. At Parnell's request witness
saw Dewey and Sullivan and two others In
America He did not write the result OF
bis conversation with these men 10 Parnell,
because he had not been requested 10.
Moreover, Egan had instructed witness 10
write him. Witness conversations with
Parnell had no reference 10 Egan. The
most important part OF Parnelrs converse
tion concerned his views as a revolution.
lists. lie declared that he did not see why
an insurrection should be unsuccessful.
Witness had heard this before from Egan,
but coming from Parnell II startled him.
Sir Chns. Russell, counsel for the Parnell-
ties, and Sir Henry James, c0unse. for the
Times, here announced that they had
agreed not to produce the documents which
were subject 10 discussion Friday last. The
government paid witness E2,000 between
Feb, 1858, TO Aug, 1850, lie spent every
cent OF this for public purposes. For In
stance, he took John 0'Neilrs o u for
f75 TO save his reputation and 10 keep
him from becoming a defaulter This ac-
ton gave witness strong hold on O'Neill.
He had spent more than he had received
IN the public service. lie had made no ar
rangements for future reward. The u.
Q. organization, which numbered 5000
members, deliberately and knowingly sup
ported the dynamite policy. In the con-
venti0n Of 1881 one hundred and sixty.two
Of the delegates present favored the use OF
dynamite. The convention held In Madi-
son Square Garden, New York, In 1884, ad-
yocaled the dynamite policy. Sullivan,
LomarDey, CroDaD, Smythe, Scanlon,
lIick, Furlong and Crane were present at
that convention.
Lecaron produced two photographs OF
Parnell, which he received at different
times, both bearing Parnelps autograph.
He said Egan gave him his photograph,
which was signed "Best regards" in Paris
In 1881. Egan also gave him photograph
OF leading members OF the league which
was similarly signed. Lecaron said the
convention unanimously agreed 70 carry
on secret warfare. This V. q. was
composed OF the dynamite party,
apart from the 0'Donovan Rosa
party. The secret organization
was first conceived In 1859; the V. q. dated
from 1872. Rosa WAS expelled from the
organization for insuboIdination. lie
wanted 10 rule or ruin. The connection
between the supreme council and the V. Q.
was ruptured at the Boston convention In
1894, each organization claiming 10 be the
legitimate body. Parnell requested wit.
ness 70 write 10 Dewey, Sullivan, Hints
and Carroll. Since his examination IN
chief witness had received from America
one Of Devoy's original letters. IL was
dated at the Office OF James Reynolds, No.
III Orange street, New Haven, June "a,
1881. line letter was hdnitte0 hs evidence.
IL read In part: al received yesterday
short note from Il. (meaning Egan) strong
ly urging me 10 come over but cannot un-
derstand why until get your explanation.
i should like 10 come II could
spare the time and II my visit
would produce the effect anticipated. But
fear II would not None OF us can guar
antee anything for those on the other side
who are hostile, but who, feel certain, do
not represent the opinion Of the home or
gaDization. There can be no chance till there
Ia change OF persons which is sure 10
come In time. All could do would be- 10
tell Il. and l.. (meaning Parnelll on my
own responsibility what would satisfy our
friends and make proposals. Parnell and
his friends seem 70 misunderstood the dis.
satisfaction here. II Is not caused by their
action In Ireland, but by the action they al
low their friends 10 take here In their name
Opinions differ little on essential points,
but we cannot tolerate the kind of thing
begun In Buffalo. will write again"
Lecaron said: "The kind Of thing begun
In Buffalo" related 10 the action OF Par
nelps friends In attempting In open conyen-
tion 10 depose, disorganlze and disrupt the
revolutionary organization. Witness iden-
titled an alleged speech by ParDell refer
ring 10 the latter's determination 10 sever
the last link binding Ireland and England.