Los Angeles daily herald., 1889-07-27

can be 30 used. he likes the ballona
route 30 far as he understands it; but he
knows, as the, HERALD has shown, that
the other route by the river is perfectly
practicable. He thinks the shorter route
by the Ballona is that far in its favor.
MAJOR J. R. ToBERMAN.
At the Southern California Insurance
Company's Office Major ]. r. Toberman
was found. He was Mayor Of the city
some years ago, and has held other pub
lie offices. His views have always been
regarded as peculiarly sagacious and
| conservative, while he is known to
be at all times the peoples advocate
against all grasping and corrupt pro.
positions. He said that he is in favor oil
an outfall sewer, and in favor OF Its 60
ing to the sea under proper conditions.
But he is opposed to the present plans
for many weighty reasons. He thinks 1t
would be great deal better to build the
inner sewer system first, and when that
is complete, build the outfall sewer to
the sea at some point where the sea can
be reached. What the city wants done
at once is to sewer itself to get rid OF the
waste from the doors and back
yards of the people. That is the
proposition for health. Set the plan before
| the proposition be segregated and put in
two parts. Vote bonds for the inner
system, and go on and complete it..
Major Toberman does not favor
any cast.iron plan to go by q
particular route. The rights ought to be
all secured first. If the route is to be on
a cast iron plan then let everything be
secured before the money is voted for it.
Another thing the ex Mayor opposes is
the alienation of any part of the peoples
rights. He does not think the Council
has the legal right to bargain away for
ever fifty inches OF sewage for the right
of way over Mr.. Roses land. He does
not think the Council has the moral
right to pay the Gun Club $40 900 for a
piece of property not worth half the sum.
He thinks. it would be dear at 81 so an
acre. The club has 800 acres Of swamp
land, on which they reserve the right to
hunt for twenty years. Major Toberman
favors the running of the sewage to
the southeast, rather than to the SOUTH
west. He would extend the present sys-
tenn as there is need, and run the sur
plus into the river-bed. Ali the waste
that can be used for irrigation ought to
be so disposed OF. The city cannot afford
to run 500 inches of water to the sea and
waste it. The city can derive a large
revenue from the sale of the sewage, and
none of its rights should be alienated. In
time of heavy rain the storm water goes
naturally to the sea by the river. bed.
The sewage can take the same course.
Pipe it below Compton and there will be
no need to go further. The floods will
do the rest.
The Major said he could not tell
whether the bonds will carry or not.
The people he talks to take his view OF
the matter. Santa Monica will be very
apt to tie the whole business up if any
attempt is made to dump the filth of this
city at Ballona. The Council ought to be
very careful about this, and not run any
risk of getting the city so tied up that no
sewer can be had. The Major greatly
approves of Mr.. Eaton's plans for
the internal system of the city, and he
would like to see that carried out first.
He closed by saying that the HERALD
was right all the way through on the
sewer proposition, and on the school
proposition.
E. t. WRIGHT.
Parting from the ex-Mayor the repor-
ter encountered E. T. Wright, a civil en-
gineer. Well as he is qualified to ex-
press an opinion Mr.. Wright is directly
opposed to Major Toberman. He is,
however, frank in stating that he needs
sewerage very much, and he does not re-
fer to the plan of sewering the inside first.
He says he wants sewerage SO badly that
he will favor any plan to get it, whether
it is the best plan or not. As to Santa
Monica, he said, if any one will tell him
on what grounds that city could enjoin
this he will be receiving information he
has not now. Santa Monica has about as
much right to enjoin Los Angeles in this
M after as Santa Barbara or San Diego.
But Mr.. Wright said he was not a law
yer. He did not know whether or not
the bonds will carry.
W. W. ROBINSON.
The Mayors Clerk, W. W. Robinson.
was met on the street. The reporter
said to him that If he we're not an Office
holder, and therefore a politician, he
would like an interview. MIR. Robinson
said that there is something he wants to
see done soon-thRt is, to submit the
question to the people for their decision.
81 also want to see the sewer, when it ia
built, run to the ocean at some point"
Then he said the city will be able to sell
the sewage for irrigation, as it will not be
at the mercy of any one, or of any
clique.
COMMODORE JAMES CAMPBELL
Was the next man pumped. He said he
did not think the sewage would ever be
dumped at Ballona. He also thinks it
will cost pretty penny to construct a
visduct to carry the eewer across the
Gun Clubs slough and across the Ballona
lake. The lake is 200 feet wide and ten
feet deep. There are four feet of wafer
in it at low tide, and the ri.e of the tide
is six feet. 1t is a navigable arm Of the
Pacific Ocean. The Commodore sailed
the Ballona Harbor Company's steamer
all over it. No one will be
allowed to obstruct the lake. The
sewer cannot be carried over it on piles.
The swamp inside the big sand dune is
about mile across. 1t will cost great
deal of money to carry the sewer on piles
across this. The piles must be we'll cre-
osoted or the teredo will destroy the
piles in a year. 1t will cost as much
as the rest of the sewer.
DIR. JOHN 8. GRIFFIN.
ri consider the proposition to vote so
large a sum to wasting our sewage q
crazy one. The sewage should be uaed
and not wasted, and should be carried to
lands which it would fructify. / don't
think Fred Eaton has shown mis- 6 ,od
sense in committing himself to projsct