, 1889-08-08
TO SHUT OFF WIND.
An Amendment Ohered to Limit
Speeches OF Members.

Mr.. Dyer called up his motion of yes
terday changing rule 10 and providing
in6tead that no member shall speak
more than once on any question and
not more than ten minutes unless the
convention by a two-thirds vote allows
longer time; except that the mover of
any motion or proposition shall have
another five minutes TO close debate in
Mr.. Sharpstein moved to change ten
minutes to five minutes.
Mr.. Moore moved further amend.
ment, adding the words, provided the
'ention is considering the property
rights of the state" Ruled out OF order
1t this stage of the debate.
Mr.. Browne said he should probably
not speak hereafter longer than ten min
utes, but he was opposed TO cutting OIL
debate in important matters. He did
not believe over one and half or two
hours had been spent in this convention
i'm speeches of over ten minutes duration
and at this particular time, when these
matters relating 10 corporations and
other important matters are just coming Z
up, and all the state being stirred ana
sending in kilograms to this convention,
he was specially opposed to being de-
prived of the
RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH.
Mr.. Cosgrove said that as the PROPOSE
tion now stood it was manifest unfair,
but he would support it if il only gave u
man ten minutes and allowed him To
use il in two speeches, ii he saw fit.
u. ii. Sullivan favored the change.
The convention must get through by
Septemher |, and at the same time the
members must have the right to speak
heir views, but ten minutes WAS enough
Tor them to express their views in.
Mr.. Moore thought Mr.. Sharpstcin' 8
a,na,,I Inn nj ~ n nrHar Tho hara
had not spent their lives in the study of
constitutional law, and could not decide
these grave questions OIL hand. IL takes
time To educate each other ON these mat
tiers. TO talk of cutting off members in
five minutes on the subject of this rail-
road commission, for example, was in
his opinion absurd. When members
tions it is absurd TO ask them to get up
and explain to the convention the results
of all this study in five minutes. He
was willing to try the ten-mihutes rule
Us an experiment, but when property in
terests OF the estate are concerned he
would not consent TO any limitation.
Mr. Dunbar said the member
MIGHT SPEND NIGHTS IN STUDY,
but it was not necessary to communi.
cate all this time in the convention.
Members could express their views am.
ply in ten minutes.
The chairs were continually vacant
during the debate, but filled as soon as
a vote was called, showing that the mem
'bers wanted to vote and not to listen tC
speeches.
Mr.. Kinnear favored ten minutes anc
not five.
Mr.. Jones was i'm favor OF the ten-min
ute rule and should call for the ayes an,
noes when it came to Il vote,
Mr.. Turner called for the previous
question.
Mr.. Griffiitts said if the rule was t.
prevail at all, he should favor five min
iltes instead of ten. The adoption o
either would, however, he detrimental tC
the business the convention was SEN
here to transact. No man can do NOR,
than sample himself in either ten or iiv,
minutes, and If he is to be prevented
from producing any reasoning, then ;
tiye-minutes' sample is Just as good as q
minutes sample. Here are
DISPATCHES FROM ALL OVER THE STATE
concerning the article on corporations
and are we to Jut oH debate ON II? Al
this proposition amounts to is to shut OF
debate and pass upon these questions
without consideration. Not three hour,
in allhad been used in speeches lasting
over fifteen minutes. The tide lands
and school lands We're matters of great
est consequence to the people. H'
uuoted Jamison on constitutions, a,
follows; There are no greater enc
mics to their respective states than thos'
foolish delegates who are no soone
seated in convention than they begin Il
clamor for less speech making and mor'
voting, with view to an early adjourn
mcnt and a light bill for convention cx-
penses.'
MIR Cosgrove said that inasmuch u.
there had not been more than half 1
dozen speeches in this convention owe
half an hour long and not a half dozer
men who had made speeches of thai
length, IL would follow from the argu
ment of the last speaker that only these
speeches and these men had
PRODUCED AMY ARGUMENT
or logic on this floor. He was not pre-
pared TO believe that.
Mr.. Manley moved the previous ques
tion and IL was so ordered.
The question being first on the five
minute rule Messrs. Browne and Grif