New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-02-27
DISCUSSING CRIME IN IRELAND.
THE DEBATE ON mE QUEENS SPEECH Coz

THE DEBATE ON THE QUEENS sPEbCh OoN'
TrNUED IN THE HOUSE.
London Feb ee-fn the House Of Commons this
evening Major saunderson. Conservative resumed the
debate on tho address IN reply 10 the Queens speech
Referring 20 Mr. Moreys remarks In the House last
night no charged that gentleman with ignoring tho
fact that crime I'm Ireland had esscned since the en-
forccmcnt OF the Crimes Act The number OF agrariRn
offences was less now than lt' had ever been since
the agitation began. The Parnelliies complained that
they could freely make speeches I'm England TOR which
IN ireland thcy would be imprisoned Quite So Men
might smoke cigar I'm many places without offence
but 10 light II down In mine would be criminal, as the
act would cndanger tho lives Of Others. tCheers)
The freedom Of speech which the Parnelliies wanted
vas not allowed, because they advocated lawbrcakng
which led 10 murder. Parliament had sometimes ao-
eodod tho claims Of the Parneli;es, But the House
had seen the unwtsdon Of Il. cry was now got
up 10 attract the people Parnelllte shouts OF PigoI
"Pgottl-l. Well, Peott bad amply qualified himself
to DO a member Of the irst Home Rule Ministry That
cry mISht for a moment DO substituted for another
q o'Brcns clothes' 0.aughterl The Irish Members
ought not TO make such asses Of themselves, bringing
down everlasting ridicule upon their cOuntry. ho
could not find q reason why Parnelltes should not
be sent TO JAN nor Why when once there, they should
ever be let out. uAughterl
Mr. Dillon thought Major ssunderson's performance
less amusing than usual. The question OF Ireland
could not be yet aside by Jest He emphatically
Regulated a. caiumny any suggestion that he or
his colleagues worked for the increase Of crime The
decrease Of crime was not due 10
the Coercion Act but to enormous concessions
cot for tenants through the Plan Of Campaign.
n was also due 10 the knowledge Of tho increased
svnpaihy OF tho English people Tho declarations
of Mr. Gladstone and his followers had more effect
in stopping crime than all the coercion acts ever
passed. (ChcersI Regarding the question OF prison
rnrb they objected 10 wearing the livery OF crime
and associating With forgers and thieves Shouts
of e. Hear. hearty Possibly, Judging from recent
events, certain members OF tho Opposition did not
entertain the same objection. (Parnellite ohoersl
lie proceeded TO crlticlse Mr.. Baifours statements
regarding the treatment OF prisoners, eontending
that there we're manifest contradictions In the state
mcnts, maldng the whole unworthy Of crcdenee
Sir @. o. Trcveyan charged Mr. Balfour With caus
ing Parnellites 60 be arrested in place and manner
calculated to nct the greatest possible outrage upon
public feeling and opinion The Government he dee
clared were responsible for the melancholy incidents
that attended the arrest Of Father McFadden and they
were especially blamed for risng repetition Of such
incidents by the arrest of Father stephens. The
speaker also attacked Mr.. Balf0r on The subject W tho
treatment OF political prisoners.
In the course OF speech IN defence OF the Govern
ment, Edward Sianhope, who Is a member OF tho
Cabinet asserted that wherever the Plan OF Campaign
existed the amount OF crime was greatest
"Thorc is not word Of truth In that" exclaimed
Mr.. Dillon.
Cries OF Oh "oh" greeted MFR. Dillon's remark,
and Mr. stanh9pe appealed to the Speaker, wheieupon
Mr.. Dillon challenged him to prove bis statement.
In reply, Mr., stanhope adduced statistics, showing
an Improvement In the condition OF Ireland, which, he
| claimed, was due to the Governments policy.