The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1889-07-27

BRADLAUGH HAS HIS SAY ON TIE
PROPOSED GRANTS.

Calmness Difficult When BalfoQr De-
pounces the Objections as sordid and
Disgusting A Denial That&he Royal
Family Has Ever Surrendered Any
thing-Lord Churchill Replies
LONDON, July 26.-When the debate
on the royal grants was resumed
in the House Of Commons to-day, Mr..
Bradlaugh said he found difficulty in dis
cussing the question calmly when Mr.
BaHour outside Of the House denounced
the objections as disgusting and sordid.
The opponents of the grant meant nothing
personally diSc6urteous to the mombsrs Of
the royal family, but were simply acting
within their rights when they met the de-
nands of the crown on the question of
finance with a direct negative. Much of
the argument in favor of the grants was
based on the erroneous idea that the crown,
under the civil list acts from George l. on
ward, surrendered its private property in
exchange for civil list.
NOTHING EVER SURRENDERED.
Neither George l. nor his successor, MIR.
Bradlaugh declared surrendered anything
The present. royal family never surrendered
anything of a farthing's value to the coun-
try. The committee of inquiry had ELECTED
the fact that during the present relgu the
savings upon certain classes under the civil
list act, instead of being applied to desray
the charges Of other classes, had been
handed to the queen without the author
ity Of parliament and is breach of the
statute. [Cries of "Hoar" "Hear".)
RI. Hon. W. H. Smith, the govern
ment leader had denied that the alleged
savings of the queen were over 93, ,O0O,0W
but he declined to show how much money
he'd either been saved by the queen or
drawn by other members of the royal
family from all sources. Mr.. Bradlaugh
said there ought to be nothing to conceal.
The fact Of concealing led to exaggerated
ideas. The refusal Of the government to
disclose the wealth amassed by royalty
| justified the aversion Of the country TO
| royal grants. [Cheersl
CHURCHILL REPLIES.
Lord Randolph Churchill argued that the
| original demands of the government were
| Just, besides being in conformity with prec-
| edent. If burdens were thrown upon the
| crown not intended under the civil list, it
| would impair the credit of the nation, and
of parliament. Mr.. Bradlaugh had ques-
| toned the title of the crown to its estates,
| but successive parliaments had recognized
| and none of the greatest lawyers had ever
| yet challenged the crowns title.
AN OFFICIAL DENIAL.
He reminded the House that Sir Henry
| F. PonSonby, her majesty's private secEe-
| tary few years ago, denied the reports
| that the queen was making immense in
vestments in ground rents, and stated Chat
she had not 81, ,000, 900 TO invest in any
thing. Lord Randolph said that the radical
overestimate of the queens wealth was de-
| \
| royalty. He objected to the adoption of
methods, the purpose of which was 60
foment elamor against the throne, which
in spite of them would remain steadfast in
| the affections of the people. tCheeTs.
| Mr. Labouchere's motion To adopt his
substitute for the report Of the royal grants
committee was rejected by a vote of~39S to
| 1I6
The majority consisted of 1852 conserv-
atives, 81 unionists and SO Gladstonians afld
| Parnelhtes.
Messrs Gladstone and Morley, Sir VIII
| lam Vernon Harcourt, MessrS. Parnell,
| O'Brien, and tie bulk Of tine liberals ana
| Parnelites voted with the majoritY. The
radical minority included Sir. G. w. q.
| Trevylan, Richard Chamberlain and I. 7.
| O'Connor.
Mr.. Morley will on Monday move an
amendment declaring that the House is un-
WlillilR 10 iHcibdeb bte Vi LHb
| people without assurance that no further
| grants will be made.
HARTINGToN's COMPLAINT.
Lord Harrington complained Of Mr..
! Bradlaugh's pedagogic air. He said that if
it was true that the law was contrhvened in
| allowing civil list surpluses to accrue to the
| crown, It was almost case for iufpeaching
the present aud former ministers. 1t was
| impossible to lay down hard and fast rules.
He thought that tho queens waving the
claims Of younger children met the present
case, and that the future might be left to a
| future parliament In any case the queens
message was worthy Of respectful atten-
| ton.
REFUSED TO THE PRINCE CONsoRT.
Wilfred Lawson twibted the conserva-
tives for refusing grant to the prince con-
sort, and evoked laughter by recalling
| certain uncomplimsntary references made
| by Mr. Chamberlain to royalty.
Mr. Goschen, chancellor Of the exchequer,
| after refnting in detail the contentious Of
Messrs. Laboucbere and Bradlaugh, cou-
| trasted Mr.. Gladstone's dignified utterauces
with those hoard tonight, and said that
t,ara WAS liftla uaad To fear the regult Of