, 1889-12-17
porter of Judge Mcconnell after the ad-
iournment Of court for the day,

porter OF Judge McCOnneu alter the ad-
iournment Of court for the day.
"Judicially, of course, l can pass no
opinion upon the verdict. As an indiyid-
ual, however, and without being cogni-
zant of all the proceedings in the jury
room. | might say I think the verdict is
the result of the objection some of the
jurors to the death penalty on circumstan-
tial evidence"
Mr.. Culver, probably" No; not
Mr.. Culver necessarily. | understand he
was in favor of acquittal from the start.
1t was only after a long and harassing de-
liberation that he finally agreed with the
rest upon this verdict. Mr.. Culver was
not the only man upon the Jury who was
opposed to the hanging of the three prin-
cipal defendants"
But the jurors all swore on being ex-
smined as TO their competence that they
had no conscientious scruples against cap
ital punishment or ci~rcumstantial evil
dence."
That is all true. But behind all this
each mar probably had a mental reserya-
ton that the evidence must be convincing
beyond a reasonable doubt. Now, if
some of these men should think there
was the ~faintest shadow Of a doubt as to
the guilt of these three men, do you not
see how natural it would be tor them to
mentally compromise the matter with
their consciences. no matter how con-
elusive their judgment might be by favor
ing lite imprisonment in lieu Of the death
penalty all because the ease was one of
circumstantial evidence"
Il believe you feel relieved hat there
has not been a disagreement Il do
most assuredly; although, if the jury had
disagreed and it became necessary to try
the case again | would not have tlinched
from presiding over the case again"
TIL PRISONERS.
About 4 o'clock an Associated Press re.
porter went to the Jail and found the four
convicted defendants out in the corridor
with other inmates taking the usual exer-
else before supper. Kunze seemed to
hold himself apart from the other prison
ers and remained in his cell refusing to be
comforted in his misfortune. Coughlin
and o Sullivan stood at the entrance of
the cage discussing the case with a couple
of members of Camp 20 who called to
offer their sympathIes or congratulations,
who knows which2 .
At the approach of the press reporter
they quickly lapsed into silence and the
visitors departed. A note was subse-
quently sent to Coughlin and his COM
panion requesting an interview and they
finally approached the cage.
II am sorry to %disappoint you" said
Coughlin very courteously, but do not
desire to be interviewed
But what is you opinion of the YER
dica?"
at m afraid l shall have to refer you
to MI. Forrest, my attorney, for an
answer to that question"
Are you disappointed at the verdict
well, | suppose 10 man regards a
verdict of life imprisonment with any
particular enthusiasm" said the ex-de-
tectiye grimly. But really, gentlemen, |
must decline to be interviewed"
With this sentence Coughlin retired
pleasantly bowling good evening as he
went. 1t was evident to all that the
prisoner was in a mood very nearly to
elation aud to Dan Coughlin, at least, the
verdict was a source of self congratula-
ton. His habitual mood during the past
six months has been one of tactiturnity,
but this evening a bright smile illumined
his face and his step was light and bouyant.
Martin Burke was found walking up
and down the corridor smoking Il cigar.
He seemed entirely composed and good
natured as he greeted the Associated
Press reporter. well, Burke, what do
you think of it2"
20, | am not saying a word" said the
young Irishman. The Chicago papers
have had enough to say about me already
and | don't want to give them any excuse
for any more.
But don't include us in your general
d%amnation."
l am not damning the papers,, said
Burke. Il have nothing against them;
but guess they can get along without
me"
All efforts to extract any comments
from Burke on the verdict were vain. He
expressed himself as being delighted to
converse on what he termed social
topics" but on this other business, as he
called it, with a jerk of his head toward
the court room. he was as dumb as an
oyster.
THE JURYMEN.
After the jury was discharged this after
noon and while the gentlemen were wait
for their certificates, a crowd of reporters
besieged them for information about what
had TRANSFERRED in the iuryroom and the
cause OF the long delay.
Its no use" said Juror NJ arrow. We
have agreed not to say anything. From
what | have heard since | got back into
Tue WOrlu tue newspapers nave uceu uoin&
some pretty tall lying. Juror Culver was
not the cause of the delay, and there was
not any unpleasantness or any knock
down, as one paper declared"
Juror North was angry at the state
ment mentioned above, The man who
wrote the story of a row in the iuryroom
ought to be punished, said he. There
was no trouble at all and we passed the
time as pleasantly as we could under the
circumstances.