Los Angeles daily herald., 1889-11-08

The Commission Considers
Several Reports.
OUTFALL SEWER AND WORKS.
A Route to the Ocean Should be
Procured for Use If
Necessary.

Messrs. J. r. Toberman, L. M. Hamil-
ton, George Hansen, William Ferguson,
G. w. Knox, J. P. Culver, A. H. Jud-
son, ]. E. Platter, W. III. Workman, DR..
Sinsabaugh and Councilman Summer
land present.
Mr.. Knox moved that the report OF the
0utfall Sewer Committee be taken up.
He thought that it would be unwise to
limit the cost OF the publication works
to 100000. Mr.. Workman had given as
his reason for making the motion the
fact that an outfall to the ocean would
not cost much more than the $100, 900
proposed to be expended, and he thought
If it were to cost that much he would
prefer to vote for the outfall to the sea.
Mr.. Knox said that he thought this
reasoning false, for the reason that ii the
publication works were erected the water
would be saved, whereas If the outfall to
the ocean was built the water would be
lost.
Mr.. Culver eaid he did not believe in
going into exp ensive works until ex.
peri,nents had been made. An estimate
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location of the works had been deter
mined upon. He advised that if the
sewage was to be purified the precip;ta-
ton system be recommended, for the
reason that it was cheaper and more
thorough. The most recent advices and
authorities were unanimously in favor of
this system. He thought the solid
matter should be carried to the ocean in
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sludge on land practicable unless large
area was obtained.
Mr.. Hamilton said he did not believe
from what he had seen that filter-works
were necessary. They could not
be put on small piece of land, for
people on all sides would get out injunc-
tions. The only way was. if filter works
were to be erected, to obtain large
piece of land and rent it out He thought
1000 acres of land should be purchased
and rented in small tracts to people who
would use the sewage.
Ex-Mayor Workman's amendment,
that the money to be appropriated be
limited to $50, 900, was lost.
Mr.. Hamilton moved that 1000 acres
be purchased.
Mr.. Culver said that he wished there
were some means of knowing where the
works were to be erected. He did not
know how anybody could make an esti-
mate without knowing where the works
were going. He thought that they
could be erected for good deal less.
Mr.. Knox said that the commission
had no idea of saying how much the
works should cost. It only intended to
say that. they should not cost more than
q certain amount.
DR.. Sinsabaugh said the commission
could not make an exact estimate.
The motion that the works and pipes
to the same cost not more than 500, 900
was carried.
to the ocean, so feet wide, be obtained,
to cost not more than $1,000.
DR.. Sinsabaugh agreed with the idea,
but he thought the price was too small.
He was somewhat acquainted with the
price of land below the city, and he was
Satisfied that q 50-foot right of way
sum.
Mr.. Hamilton moved to amend by
making the sum $4,000
Mr.. Culver did not see the necessity of
fixing price for the right of way, for
price.
Mr.. Knox suggested that the Council
be requested not to use the railroad right
Of way, for the reason that the jar of
passing trains would be apt to ipjIre the
pipes.
MIR. Judson was of the opinion that the
right of way would cost $780, 900, but if
taken into the courts it might be OBJ
foiv fnr Qa fha+ n
right of way should be obtained at any
cost.
DIR. Sinsabaugh thought that no price
should be named.
Mr.. Hamilton'a motion was lost.
Ex-Mayor Toberman said he was op-
posed to an outfall sewer, and was in
favor of the publication works.
Mr.. Hansen's motion was lost.
Messrs. Sinsabaugh and Ferguson said
they were opposed to outfall sewers, but
they thought that the right of way to the
ocean should be obtained, so that if the
publication works were not successful
there would be route to the ocean.
Mr.. Knox moved that the right.of-way
for an outfall to the ocean be obtained
without naming the price.
Mr.. Hamilton moved to amend 30 that
it be acquired by condemnation. Lost,
and Knox's motion was carried.
The entire report of the Outfall Sewer
Committee as amended was then
adopted.
The report of the Committee on Utiliz.
alton of Sewage was taken up and the
recommendations were read by the
Secretary.
The first recommendation was:
Thakf ,ttx IL Co., 4I,a
disposal Of its raw sewage for irrigating pur
poses to any company, reserve the right to
acquire any plant that may be erected for its
precipitation, Qualification. filtration or treat
ment, by giving five years notice to said CON-
pany or individuals, to whom franchise may
be given for a longer term. And that such
their plant and appurtenances to the city in
such case at sum to be as reed upon by two
commissioners one to be appointed by the City
Council and one by the said company, and in
case OF disagreement a third commissioner
shall bind itself in any contract made with the
city for the erection of plant and appurtenances.
not to acquire any patented processes at ex.
orbitant cost. and that in such purchase, as to
cost and advisabiiity, the City Council OF the
city OF Los Angeles shall have an equal vote.
Mr.. Toberman said that he was OPP
posed to the city letting any part of the
system 60 to corporations, and in con-
sequence he would vote against the rec.
ommendation.
The Recommendation was adopted.
The second recommendation, which
was that the city should fully control the
publication and handling of the sewage,
was adopted.