New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-04-29
YACHTS AND YACHTSMEN.
DISCUSSING GENERAL PAINE'S OFFER.

FRIENDLY RIVALRY BETWEEN NETWORK AND
BOSTON CLUBs-PLANS FOR TIE SUMMER.
The suggestion made BY Tho Tribune Of April 81
that an undercurrent of sntagonsm to the Ncw-York
Yacht Club IS at the bottom OF the Eastern Yacht
Clubs offer Of new International cup discussed
fully last week by local authorities on such subjects
| Most OF the prominent Boston yachtsmen. pre-
emnenty General Paine, have always been
thusiastic members of the NcwYork Yacht Club also
and IL would that such persons In all likelihood
would not do anything TO injure organization the
success Of which they had themselves contributed so
largely. On the other hand however IL Is said that
there is intention the part OF the losonlans To
nhlct real injury the local club. but that the
rivalry between the great clubs of tho two great
cities simply caused the yachtsmen OF Tho Hub In
stnctvcly look with favor the proposition for
a international cup. General Palnes expressions,
moreover with reference TO the Americas Cup defence
and the presented by the terms of his offer of
a cup be sailed for In the East significant
Finally, Boston yachtsmen are expressing inc
opinion that tho Americas Cup should be considered
a trophy to be held ONLY BY the fastest and. there
FORE by the largest yacht They advocate the use OF
the Volunteer defender, and their suggestions arc
met with approval by MANY of the New-York Yacht
Tub people And now " The Yachsman' new
periodical published IN Boston as Yachting organ.
which says, in plain words: " BY this circular tthe
one announcing the cup the Eastern Yacht Club
has clearly defined It's position in respect to the con-
test for the Americas Cup. 1t should h. defended by
the Volunteer, but the Valkyrc shall have race,
nevertheless and with boats her length 1t is safe
predict that the contest for the Paine Cup will excite
far greater interest this than the races for tho
supremacy Of the word.n There is the Boston
position IN a nutshell.
"How does II happen that Mr. Beavor-Webb is
so directly interested in the Paine Cup asks some
ono. His sympathies arr supposed TO be with New
York How do you explain that The solution
IS easy Mr.. Beavor-wcbb's sympathie5 are With
neither to the exclusion of the other. lie is better
known than any other yachtsman for his conservatism
I'm expressing his opinion. AS the designer of H..
Gcncsa. he may be looked upon as convenient go
between TO negotiate American challenge with
an English challenger.
There IS sim another point to be considered in con-
nection with the International for the Americas
Cup. As has suggested. the former de-
fcnders OF the trophy have never done we'll after
changing ownership they did originally. The
Mayfower was never in form until the end OF the
cruise last summer when 1t claimed by her
saiiing-maser that her trimming lines. which had
been kept secret when she was sold, had finally been
discovered. Well. the Maynower never had a chance
with the Volunteer, and whatever she might have
done this year IS neither here there. Her date IS
over, and she will san a schooner. However.
Sailorman will deny the probability that, unless the
Volunteer is manned by good before,
unless she has thorough satlng-maser she had
In her victories. and unless her actions inspired
by the energy of General Paine. a like him.
she will equal her former wonderful performances
She may win in the trial races. but II is not be
supposed that the Earl OF Dunravcn did consider
the possibility Of her being employed. Now, here
comes Captain Pluck, of the BetouIn. and says
something Ike this
Il am sorry for thing that American yachtsmen
have adopted the s;vcny-foo standard suggested by
something here that Will beat in that line
English designers never very good In designing
eighty and eghty-fvo foot boats, for example, the
Gaatea and Thistle but up to seventy feet they
to thoroughly understand their business. and that's
the they made that Offer to The committee and
In my opinion the acceptance very unwise7
There IS, according to rumor tendency among
New York yachtsmcn toward building seventy.
fOOcr. though II is said combination intends buy
charter the Volunteer In Boston II Is reasonably
certain that more racers of the seventy foot
class will be constructed. but II be expected
In view OF the Paine cup advantages, that those new
yachts would enter NcwYork trial races against the
Volunteer. That means, simply. that tho Volunteer
will have walkovcr with the hIrd-class slcops and
utter, now In tho feet. and Indication will be
gwen TIC relative powers OF the Volunteer ana
those of the most modern seventy foot outter'
Concerning the comparison OF the highest develop
Of soOp and cutter abstract of the deductions
padc by \. G.. McVey, fhc designer Of the forty
fooer Helen after last seasons between tho
cutter Bedoun and the Cary Smith slo0p Katrina
mag be OF Interest. Mr. McVey is welknown
yachting writer. and. nj the same time. professor
In the Boston school OF Naval Architecture In his
review he SAID
among tho smaller sInglesiIckers, the slOop
Katrina. designed by a. Cary Smith, and tho cutter
Beioun. production Of John Harvcy's were exceed
ingy we'll matched In the Katrina. Mr. Smith has |
turned out a craft oapable Of making good per- |
with any yacht of her class In the country
ler chances are best with the Bcdouin in moderate
winds and fairly smooth wafer. The races Of tho
two yachts have been REMARKABLY close The Bedouin |
IS now practically an oldsiylc cutter. while tho |
Katrina Is considered the latest type Of c0mpronIis'
soop. The performance Of the Brdouin against the
Katrina looks like evidence for cutter advocate; To
work on, and In Is not illogical 10 anticipate that
properly designed compromise kcclsloop might prove
tho equal Of a centre-boari.'
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