Juniata sentinel and Republican. [volume] (Mifflintown, Juniata County, Pa.) 1873-1955, 1889-04-24


init covered with snow, probably,
Il, 900 or Is, 900 feet above the sea. 1t
is called RueyenZorl, and will prove
rival 10 kilimaniaro. l am not sure
that It may not prove to be the Gordon
Bennett Mountain in Gambaragara,
but there are two reasons for doubling
il to be the same First, 1t is little
too far west for the position of the
latter, as given by me in 1876. Sec
ondly, we saw no snow on the Gordon
Bennett. L have met only three natives
who have seen the lake toward the
south. They agree that il is large, but
not so large as the Albert NyanZa,
Before closing let Inc touch more
largely upon the subject which brought
me here-vlZ, Emin Pasha- He has
two battalions of regulars, the first
consisting of about 100 rifles and the
! second OF GAO men. Besides these bat
talions he has quite respectable force
of irregulars, sailors, artisans, clerks
and servants.
Altogether Emln said, IF 1 con-
sent to 90 away from here, we shall
have about 5000 people with u.s.
Were I in your place, L would not
| hesitate a moment. or be for second
| in doubt what to do. What you say Is
! quite true; but We have such large
number of women and children-prob-
ably 10000 people altogether. How
can they all be brought out of here?
| We shall want a number OF carriers
Carriers for whatp' l asked.
For the women and children. You
! surely would not leave them and they
cannot travel
The women must walk. 1t Will do
them more good than harm. As for
the little children, load them on dom
| keys. L hear you have about two
hundred. Your people will not travel
very far the first month, but little by
little they will get accustomed TO it.
Our Zanzibar women crossed Africa
on my second expedition. Why cannot
your black women do the same? Have
no fear for them. They will do better
than the men,
They would require a vast amount
of provisions for the road
True; but you have thousands OF
cattle, 1 believe. Those will furnish
beef, and the country through which
we pass must furnish grain and vege.
table food.
We'll, we will defer further talE
until Tomorrow
The conversation with the Pasha
took place on May l, 1888. during a
halt in camp at Nsabe. The Pasha
came ashore from the steamer Khedive
next day about l p. NJ. In short
time we commenced our conversation
again. Many of the arguments USED
above were repeated He said:
What you told me yesterday has lee
me to think 1t best that We should
retire from here. The Egyptians ar,
very willing to leave. There are o
those about 100 men besides thei
women and children IL shoul'
be glad to get rid of them, becaus
] they undermine my authority and nul
lify all my endeavors for retreat. Whel
1 informed him that Khartoum hat
! fallen and that Gordon Pasha wa
slain, they always told the NuOlau
that it was concocted story, and laa
e someday we should see steamers ascent
= the river for their relief. But of tn
Y regulars | am extremely doubtful
They have led such free AMI happ
t life here that they would demur a
t leaving a country where they hav
b enjoyed luxuries tney cannot comman
{ in Egypt. The soldiers are marrie
s and several of them have harems
r Many irregulars would also retire an
z follow me. Now, supposing the Tegu
u lars refuse to leave. you can imagln
a the position would be difficult one
II Would 1 be right in leaving them I
J, their fate? Would 1t not be cOnsignln
l. them all to runI 1 should have
leave them their arms and ammunition
- and, on returning, all discipline woul
4 be ended. Disputes would arise, fa'
), lions would be formed, the more an
n bilious would aspire 10 be chiefs D
d force, and from these riyalries woul
!. spring hate and mutual slaughte
II until there would be none left
le 'SuPposIng you resolve to stay, VIII;
of the Egyptians?' L asked.
et 'Oh, these l shall have to ask you
At be good enough to take with you
Thus, day after day have recorde
te faithfully my interviews with EN-
lt Pasha, but these extracts reveal eneu4
W for you to understand the position
y, l left Mr. JephsOn 13 Soudanes
le and sent a message to be read TO q
troops, as the Pasha requested. Ever.
he thing else is left until L return, Wi
the united expedition, to the Nyanz
Ia within two months.
The Pasha proposed TO visit FC
p Bodo, taking Mr.. Jephson with hil
~ At Fort Bodo / have left lnstructio
to the officers to destroy the fort a
accompany the Pasha to the Nyanl
| hope to meet them all again
the NyanZa, as l intend making
short cut to the Nyanza along NJ
he route. HENRY NJ. STANLEY.