The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1889-11-19

train.
J "Don't you think man could have been
killed, and you not know it!'
mo, sir"
Suppose the captain of the train had told
them to keep their mouths shut, wouldn't
they have done it!"
mo, sir; 1 wouldn't"
i 81 am not so sure about that-in those
days"
LeGrand Young-Well, perhaps he is.
| JOSEPH r. MORGAN.
1 crossed the plains in w. H. Danes
company, knew of no man by the name
of Green in the company, and no man was
murdered, such as was described by Martin
Wardell. l saw no men dressed in buck
skin, as he described. saw few Indians.
l can't see how such murder could have
occurred and not know anything about
it.
To Dickson-There were not very many
in the company that can now recall
MRS. WRIGHT.
| I am daughter of Martin Wardell, and
reside at Milford l came 10 Utah twenty
eight years age, in Captain w. II. DANES
company. l came here in company with
my father. | was about twelve years of
age at that time, but remember the cir
cumstance of crossing the plains. Never
knew of a man named Green being killed,
or man by any other name. l heard
father mention the circumstance about two
years ago at first. l can account for
fathers story only from the fact that he
lets his imagination play. He is consider
able of visionary man, and always has
been. My mother does not live with father
now He has acted very strangely at times.
To Dickson-I am not very fond of
father. understand he Is an apostate.
WILLIAM wARDELI.
/ am son of Martin Wardell. Live at
East Mill Greek. Crossed the plains when
l was between eight and nine years of age.
| never knew of a man being killed in our
company. and never heard of a man named
Green. l never heard the instance spoken
of in our family, and knew nothing about
the occurrence until l read it in the papers.
l am member of the Mormon church.
THOMAS G. WEBER.
1 have lived here twenty-five years and
have been connected with the Z. c. M l. |
since 1869. l resided in the United States
four or five years before l came to Utah |
| served in the northern army about five
years; served in the cavalry under Nc
Lellan. / am a member of the Mormon
church, and have been through the EndoW- |
ment house. L never took any oath against |
the government in those ceremonies. There |
was no such ceremony required. l do not |
think made any promise to be Obedient to |
the priesthood in all things; neither did |
make any covenant in regard to polygamy |
10 Dlckson-JOlned the army in 1857 and |
left in 1863, when 1 resigned, rendering my |
resignation to Colonel Merritt. | came to |
U tab about twenty days after that time. / |
made up my mind to come to Utah in 1860. |
1 went through the Endowment house in !
1866, and again when l married in 1865 |
am one of the quorum of seventies. There |
II
of the prophets.
"Well,,yo right arm was Amounted in
order that it might be made strong to
avenge the death of the prophets!"
THAT decline to answer on point Of
honor. l have heard that the church |
claims the right to rule temporarily as
well as spiritually"
Mr.. Dickson then went on a fishing ex-
cursion, but returned empty-handed.
To LeGrand Yeung-There was no obli-
CATION taken in the Endowment house by
me in reference to the shedding of human
blood
To Dickson have never heard the doc
trine of blood atonement preached, and do
not know that it is doctrine of the Nor.
mon church.
The Judge-Are you a citizen of the
United States!
'Yes.n
''You are aware that the claim is made
that no Mormon has right to be citizen.
You decline to answer certain questions on
point of honor. Do you think you are
more bound to the church than to the gov
eminent.
"No.n
IF there is nothing in the ceremonies
that is reasonable, why do you refuse to
answer the questionsa"
Because look upon them in the same
manner as a Mason does his oaths. There
is nothing REASONABLE in the ceremonies"
'But you are assuming to decide that
fact for yourself"
81 decline to detail the ceremonies, but I
do say there was nothing reasonable"
To Dickson-1 am connected with 4. G..
M. l., and was IN the years 1884 and 1885.
remember the flag being placed at half
mast on that building on July l, 1885; as
soon as possible after [ heard Of the fact l
went and ordered it run up.
To LeGrand Young-If there was any
oath or affirm alton in hostility to the gov
eminent used in the Endowment house
ceremonies l should certainly feel called
upon to divulge it. My allegiance to the
church is not because of alack Of allegiance
to the government. l refuse to answer
certain questions that the government has
no interest in.
To the Judge-I took an oath to defend
the country. L ordered the flag raised on
L
stand that the flags were put at half-mast
as an expression of the Mormons against
the United States. We never found out
who was responsible for raising the flag,
save on the city hall, which was put up by
the city marshal. l advised that he be
officially rebuked and / think he was so re-
buked. I do not remember that I heard
that Charley Crow had drawn his pistol and
threatened to shoot any man who raised it.
SPENCER cLAwsoN.
am member of the Mormon church,
and reside in this city Have lived here
thirty seven years. l never took an oath
of hostility against the government of the
United States Have been through the
house
To Dickson-There was nothing said
about avenging the blood of the prophets
when required.
"You are a member of the church now7"
Eyes"
''That is alll.''
FARLEY L. WILLIAMS "voTED THE REGULAR
TICKET"
Mr. Young then offered in evidence an
affidavit of P L. Williams, which had been
used in the case of Maxwell VS.. Cannon
The conteat wherein Mr.. Maxwell claimed
the right to sit in Congress. 1t is as fol
lows:
Q.-Are you member of or in any way
connected with the Mormon church?
Al am not.
Q-From what you have seen of the
Mormon people, what do you say of them
concerning their disposition as fair deal
ing and law abiding communityl
A.-Speaking of them as community, l
should say of them they are fair-dealing
lax abiding far I am apoOainta6 |