New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-02-21
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any question OF the witnesses Which AieN
report Of the experts IA
al do NOT attack the report of the experts said
Mr. Fish al seek to obtain evidence TO corroDorato
IT, warn you, Nh. Ainsworth, that shal appear
tn Che Assembly this question"
aYou can do So" said Mr. Ainsworth, III you de-
sire tor
Tho first w,tness Mr.. snaith was then examined
al did considerable fguring" he said, before there
were any plans figuring on the cost OF removing inc
Assembly Chamber ceiling. began making my es-
timates indeed, when the Assembly was debating inc
bin first saw the plans early In June' In one Oh
the committee 1t was before the Celhhs 0o
mlttee met The specifications were there In charge
of Mr. Rowe the architect Mr. Andrews was there.
asked Mr. Andrews for the specifications, and ne
gave mo one. think there about dozen plans
on exhibition 10 o,, tnor ,vbstber YOU began
figuring on these plans before the Governor slghea to
Mr. snaith-I do not know. 49,.
Mr.. Ainsworth-Did you have any partner In THIS
Mr.. snaith-I did not
Here Mr. Ainsworth exhibited TO Mr.. snsith the
specifications of the contract ana asked MN IL they
were the ones he figured upon
MIR: AinsworthEwas there an alternative clause,
p'i Mr.. snsith~Thcre was, and figured upon It
Mr.. Alnsworth-Did you put IN TWO plus' o"inB "
the alternative clausel
Mr. Answorth-when did you submit your bldi
r..
Mr. Answorti-Dd you know that there were other
contractorsl -, .,,n ,5,,o.os y, syracuse
who said mat he had put IN bid ana salu 70 me
suppose / am the lucky fellow, what would you 90
the woodwork for me forP told him that would
~ Mr.. AinsSorts-was the PAPER mache included in
Mr. snaifh-I told Mr. Hughes that II Paper mache
was adopted, should ask $4,000 for the work.
centage TO MIR. Andrews on THIS jobf
MI. snaith-I did not ,,
MIR Ainsw olth-i)d you knoI Assemblyman Enz,
one OF the Ceiling Committoel
Mr. snath-Yes nave known Mr.. Enz for twenty
years. never had any talk with him about this Job
other than to say that going to put In bid did
not know Mr.. Rowe. tho architect
NJ snaitb-I talked over that with Mr. Andrews.
Mr.. Answofih--If It had not been papicr-mache pan
els, what kind of panels did you think the contract
Mr. snaih-For aat-oak panels.
Mr.. Acknowledgement
Mr.. Ainsworth-who suggested using papier maehe
for the spandrels! 49,, -
terai cOnversed with Sinclair about substituting
papier-mache panels for oak ones. .,.-
Mr. Answorth-XOuM the substitution OF paper
mache panels have any effect In essenng the ironwork
Mr.. Snath-It would not. IL was obvious as soon
as the work began that there was necessity OF
changing the ronwork. ,,.- -.
necessity for that chanRel
Mr. snah--As as II began.
Mr.. Answorh-Did the change 10 tho lronWorh hsse
any Mr. s"s snsIRit had p" soe effect ''' " 40
Mr. Answorih-DId it reduce the amount of iron
TO be uscd7
Mr.. Ainsworth--who dId this ifonworki ,.,
Mr.. snath-T. j. Sullivan. OF sullivan y fhiers
Mr.. Alnsworth-Dh sullivan put In bid on this
Assembly ceiling job
Mr.. AinswOrth-Had You no suspicion that he might
m;sead you on such a calculatl0nI
Mr., Ainsworth-Did you have an ariangement with
Mr sullivan that you should share the contract you
Mr. Enaitb-I dfd not
Mr. MaItin-Did you figure on carved OAK Tor the
spsndrels and the beading?
Mr. Snaith-I did
Mr. Mariln-what would be the relative cost to, q
carved-oak spandicls and beading7
Mr. snath-I think about the same.
Mr. Maftln-Did you feel safe In thus changing the
plan Of the work, when there was mandatory clause
In the contract saying that changes should be made
In the general character Of the work without the con
sent in writing Of the members OF the Assembly Ceiling
Committee
Mr. snaith-I did
Mr.. MaFiin-Dld not the change IN the iron trusses
reduce the amount Of iron 20 be used
Mr.. Snath-It did
was given here that the Controller paid for moulds
which cost $4,000.
Mr. snsith-I put in no such account
This completed the testimony taken at the morning
session Of the committee. At the afternoon session
Mr. snath continued his testimony. ~ Ggurcd,' said
he then, on the basis Of 500 panels for the ceiling
Mr. Msrtin-Dd It reduce the expense to reduce the
number Of panelsl
Mr. Snalth-I do not know.
Mr. Martn-Dld It not reduce the amount Of iron
lattice-wOrk required
Mr. Snath-T cannot tell you.
Mr. Martin-You made a radical change in tho plans.
Have you any Information as 10 tho statements male
to the Controller as 10 the amount OF materials USED
Mr. snath-I have not. signed those statements
Mr. Martn-Thesc statements show that ten times
as much white pine and oak went into the ecing as
fhati
Mr. snaitb-I have nothing to say about that matter
<x, ErAr ~r4l.f -.
Mr. Mar;ln-These statements show that there was |
enough scatioding purchased, apparently to go all
around the Capitol Is that truei
Mr. snaIth-I do know anything about those
statements
were furnished?
Mr. snaith-I do not know.
Mr.. Laimon-who was II told you that you must !
sign these slips In order 70 get your money!
Mr. Isrfnon"Dd Controller wemple mako no OBJ
jectioDs TO paying these bills
contract Wss taxing down The Old on Tone cns s
putting up Of scafOldlng and the putting up Of q |
new ceiling The new ceiling was the smallest part
Mr.. sheehsn-Dd you talk with Mr.. Andrews about
doHg this work BE- S0Fc the bin gasseS the Assembly
Mr.. sheehan-Did you notice statement in tho |
plans without the consent Of the Ceiling Committed
Why did you do so without obtaining that consent
Mr.. snaith-lt was done under the orders Of Mr..
MIR. sheeban--you used pspier mache for tho
spandrcls and the beading Who authorized you to
Mr.. Snaith-Mr. Andrews
Mr.. sheehan--Whst did you pay T. j. Sullivan for |
tho ironwork OF the ccling2
Mr. Snaith-In tho reighborhood OF 10000.
Mr.. shcehan-what did you pay Sullivan for snoring
up the Assembly stairway4
Mr. 6nalth-Ab0ut $4,000.
Mr. Sheehan-Will you produce your contract with |
MI. Sinclair for the papieF-mache panels
Mr.. snaith-At The proper time. WIN.
Mr. Sheehan-Whaf would you think a proper tlme1 |
Mr. snsltb-when have a chance 10 rebuff the ey. |
denco of tine expert
Mr.. Sheehgn-What did you pay Mr. slnclairl
Matthew Hale. the counsel Of Mr. Snaith objected |
to Mr. snaiths answering the question
Mr. cottre then moved that Mr.. snaith be required |
10 answer this question at once.
The committee then took vote on the question |
whether Mr. snaith should be required to state to-day
what he paid Mr. Sinclair for the papiermache panels
Before tho vote was taken Mr. snath promised 10 re
veal at some time 10 the committee the /
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