The Daily times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1886-1889, 1889-10-06
CHURCH COUNCIL.
FOURTH DAY or THE TRiENNIAl
CONVENTION.
Proposed Changes In the f"N'f-b""h
Considered-Thc >icinc Creed 4" he
Made Obligatory on Certain Festival
Days-Ofher Matters of Interest,"

Days-Other Matters ef Interest,"
NEW YORK. October =. special. The
fourth day Of the general convention OPEN
nd with morning PRAYER. after which both
houses convened for business session. IN
the House Of Deputies. Rev Dr. Hunting.
ton. bv request. presented memorial
adopted los representatives Of the coiorcl
church who met in this city last month.
asking for recognition. and moved that. lht
I-pper House concurring. 1t be referred
10 "A special joint committee Of the Two
houses. 10 consist of part of This house. ol
two clerical deputies and two lay deputies.
The motion caused some discussion. anu
mora than one amendment was proposed.
Ultimately the amendments were with
drawn and the resolutions were referred 10
"A special Joint committee. which. IT was
agreed. should consist of five clerical and
five lay deputies.
Reports of the committee on the admission
Of
NEW DIOCE>E~
were received with reference 20 applications
Of the missionary diOce-e- Of Oregon ana
Colorado for admission into union with the
Church. and after some discussion ih"A
were referred 10 the appropriate committee.
The House finally resumed discussion OF
the question ON the adoption Of resolution
40. -. on
~NorIrrcArI0N To DIOcE.E> or PROPOSED
CHANGES ~ TIE
Resolution No. f. provides that the Niccnc
Greed shall bee said Christmas day. Easter
dav. Ascension day. Nhit~undaN. and on
Trinity sunday. The first speaker ON the
subject was Rev. James j. NaulN. If
Arkansas. Ilc opposed the resolution. llc
said tlo mrch should NOT bc required io
u~c the Niccnc Greed. II was NOT the 'atii-
ollie creed. and IL WIS not righi 90 try and
force 10 nn ihc Church in this country. To
do ~o would deprive the Church of that
liberty which had contributed 90 it- success.
The speaker was called tO order Two or
three times for introducing questions oi
theology into his remarks. bui the president
o,crulrd the objections. and the speaker
was allowed 10 continue.
Uo was followed by Rev. Dr. j. =. kidNcv.
Of Minnesota. The Catholic Church. hr
said. had guarded against any m~inierprc-
iaii0n of either the \icene or APOSTLES
Creed. If they were. however. io od'icrminc
NOT tO make the saving of the Niccnn creed
COMPULSORY. he begged them mot to do -o ON
an, ground which might warrant ihe a--
sumption that they did ,o BECAUSE they dil
NOT believe what IL contained.
The next speaker was Rev. Or. Holland,
Of ~. Louis. who made au earnest ant clo-
oucni speech. In which hc said Dee did not
think ne, could settle great questions Of
dogma in three weeks. bui il.N would not
do wrong il they approved what the Bishops
bad done.
IHF NICFNT CREED 'AERll- luE niff
Finally the question came iDa vote with
ihe following result. Number Of clerical
votes forty -ninc-ayc. -: nays. -. divided.
- Law votes iOrtN-~cftn- ayes. -; nay -
d: divided. 3. The result of tic vote hNe-
the Niconc Creed as part of the praier-book
and Of thr service on feast days.
tfI:Infhc House of pepui.c- adjourned
fO Monday.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR l>i.
Tine House of Bishop ihi- molnin- sent q
communication t0 the House nt li'puii', for
ihr appointment of a Joint committee. to
consist of i've bishops. i've cier-ymcn. ana
five la,mcn. with instructions tu report 4"
the convention of l>'2 upon ihe Following.
First. Whether territorial division 90 tiie
whole ,hurchoi ihe United states and Ter
rif0ric. into provinces Is cNrodicnt.
second. What changes shall d" m1d" in
the cunone Of the system of provincial
LEGISLATION and discipline.
Third un What general plan such diii>-
ions miehi hc effected.
At 1890 O'Clock the house Of bishops adj
i0urne1 until Monday.
Both hou-c~ Of the convention were given
reception This afternoon hy the dean ana
mcult, Of the Episcopal Theological semi
nary