Los Angeles daily herald., 1889-01-17
TO THE OCEAN.
The Outfall Sewer to Go
There Eventually.
OPINIONS OF THE CITIZENS.
The Council Settles the Question and
Sets the City Surveyor
to Work.

special session. President Kuhrts in the
Chair and Messrs. Bosbyshell, Earl,
Humphreys, Ford Hanley, Cohn Wilson,
Threlkeld, McNally, Sinsabaugh and
Bryant present.
The members of the Board of Trade
and Chamber of Commerce were invited
to take seats inside the rail.
A proposition from the Stowell Ce'
ment Pipe Company to construct an out.
fall sewer to the ocean, 10000 feet TO,
$150,0O0 was read.
E. w. Reed & Co.'S supplemental pro
position to provide sewer farm of 4,0O(
acres and build four-foot sewer to the
farm was read, as also was that of the
Pacific Sewerage Company, Offering tc
construct the internal sewer system ol
the city for 81 and a quarterly rental oi
sixty cents for each room in the city.
The resolution of the Board of Trade
requesting that the outfall sewer be built
to the ocean and that it be large enough
to accommodate population Of 100000
people, was read.
The question arose as to how many
propositions there were before the Coun.
Gil and what the routes were.
Mr.. Cohn said that it was not necessary
to read them all. He could explain mat.
ters 80 that all who were present might
understand the situation perfectly. The
City had, about two2years ago, instructed
City Engineer Fred Eaton to draw plans
and make surveys for sewer system and
an outfall. This had been done and the
plans for the internal system, after ap.
proval by experts, we're adopted. 1t was
then thought that a cheaper route to the
sea could be obtained and plans had been
drawn for that, but the motion to pass
these was defeated by one vote, and the
matter rested until the West system
was proposed. Lately a number of
speculative propositions had been pre-
sented and the only question before the
Council at the present time was whether
the city desired to build to the sea or to
experiment.
Mr.. Eaton said that the estimate for
his outfall sewer had been $466,OOO and
this included the right of way at that
time, but he could not say whether it
could be obtained now. The outfall
could probably be built cheaper now
since bricks would not cost 80 much.
Major Jones, President of the Cham
ber of Commerce, said that he thought
the outfall should be built to the sea to
the nearest available point. The sewer
should be built as near to the surface of
the earth as possible so that the water
could be taken out for irrigation pur-
poses, and the city should have control
of the works and the right to the sewage.
The first matter to be considered was the
disposal OF the sewage and then the cost
would come in as a matter of secondary
importance.
Mr.. Griffith, visiting engineer,
thought that the matter of the proper
sewering of the city was one of the great
est importance. Los Angeles was a
health resort, and its sewer system and
outfall must be perfect, so that no one in
the East could say anything against it.
With perfect sewer system the city
would be unequalled as health resort.
He advised that the outfall sewer be
constructed to the sea, and then no one
could find fault with the disposal. After
this was done, arrangements could be
made for using the water for irrigation.
Mr.. w. T. Lambie said that he had
surveyed route to the sea which would
be the cheapest. but he thought that ar
rangements should be made to allow the
water to be used for irrigation. His out
fall sewer would cost about $3.50 900.
Mr.. M. L. Wicks said he was strongly
in favor of an outfall to the ocean for the
reason that in the winter no one wanted
to use the sewage, and if it was allowed
to run on land already saturated with
water it would create nuisance. Some
plan should be arranged after the outfall
had been built to the sea, whereby the
water could be turned on lands that
needed it. Then in winter it could be
turned back into the outfall and there
would be no nuisance. He strongly ad-
vised that the city should not part with
its right to the water, and the whole
system should be under the control of the
city. By all means run to the ocean first,
for the health of the community is the
first consideration, and let the matter of
expense be the last consideration. The
citizens would vote $4,000, 900 bonds if
necessary.
Judge Stephens said that there was no
doubt but that a time must
come when the sewage must
90 to the sea and be believed
that the route along the Los Angeles
river was the best as there was more
land there that needed the water. The
sewer could be built part of the way at
once and then the sewage could be used
on sandy land for ten years. Then the
sewer could be carried further towards
the ocean and finally reach it.
Mr.. Ryan said that there was no doubt
but the route by the Los Angeles river
was the best for the reason that only
part of the sewer need be built at time.
The proposition of Messrs. Reed & Co.
showed that there we're 1900 acres of
land, the Nadeau property and the
Tweedy land, which would take the sew,
age and pay at the rate Of $3.50 per year
per acre or $4,000 in all. These 1000
acres were sandy in nature and it would
be five or ten years before the sewer
need be built further. Then it could be
carried on to the ocean or a part of the
way to another tract of land where it
could be used to advantage for another
ten years.
Mr.. J. @. DAILY said that he was inter-
ested first in the prosperity of the city
and county, and he had urged the adop-
ton OF sewer system for the city. He
had always considered an outfall to the
sea necessity, and he had had no fear
that any Of the propositions to take the
sewage of the city would be seriously
considered because they could not be
accepted under the laws of the State.
The city could not part with the control
of it's sewage. 1t could not give away it's
right to the control of the sewage. The
disposal of sewage was at all times under