New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1889-02-07
LIE CARON'S GLIB TONGUE.
THE AMERICAN CONTINUES HIS TESTIMONY.
MUCH ABOUT THE IRISH LEAGUE IN AMERICA
BUT NO EVIDENCE INcRIMINAT1NG
N,p pARNFLL.

He held n lively conversation with Michael Davitt
The witness, Beach, who is also known as DR..
lie Caron continued his evidence. He detailed
conversation which he had with Alexander
Sullivan in June SSl, regarding proposed al
hanoe of the different Irish organizations, in
which Mr. Sullivan said that no radical change
could be effected until they had change of rep
resentatves on this side of the water, which
would be soon Mr.. Sullivan referring to
visit to Ireland which he contemplated MAX
ing, said he could not think of allowing Mr..
Parnell TO pay his expenses, doing so would
place Mr.. Parnell in false position. Mr. Sui
livan bitterly opposed the discussion of this mat
ter in open convention, on the ground that it
would leak out and compromise the Parnclite
party. Witness stated that conference of the
F, c." was held August 3, 1881 The meet
ing discussed preparations for dynamite operations
and recommended the formation of classes in min
ing engineering. At secret meeting held prior
TO the convention, Delegate d. O'Mahon Connor
attacked the Revolution Directory for it's mac
tivity during the preceding two years. He said
he had made certain suggestions which had not
been executed. These suggestions included the
rescue Of Mr.. Davitt from prison and the fitting
out of an expedition to South America which
should land upon territory recently occupied by
the English.
The witness stated that Breslin was paid fol
building a submarine tOrpedo-boat which proved
to be a failure Another firm built boat, which
lay on the New-Jersey side of New-YorS harbor
four months, but was not used against British
ships.
PERIsHED AT LONDON BRIDGE.
The witness said that he saw Mackay and
Iomasney two days before LomaSney left Amer
lea for the purpose of carrying out the Plan of
Campaign by explosions the details of which the
witness could not give Lomasney never re-
turned, and the organization had ever since sup
ported his family and father Witness believed
that Lomasney and his brother, Michael LomaS-
ney, perished in the London Bridge explosion.
The witness produced a circular, which was
read by Sir Henry james. II was dated Sep
tember /, 18sl, and was distributed after the
Chicago convention. 1t was headed with the word
caution" and read:
G.'s will this document at the meeting following
receipt. reading twice they will burn it in
the presence g. Of each D. and send 70 the
secretary Of F. c. statement that it so burnt If
fail burn it, the ]. G. will report the fact
After the reading Of the circular the witness
said that in compliance with the instructions from
headquarters, lie attended the Chicago conven-
ton. T. p O'Connor and Timothy Healy also
attended. The Rev. Mr. Belts was proposed for
ment representing the moral suasion section oh
jected 10 him. Belts belonged to the aggressive
party At the direct request of Delegate O'Con-
nor, the alleged medium of communication between
Ireland and America, this objection was with
drawn and Belts was unanimously elected Sew
eraI priests who approved dynamite policy at
tended the convention
The witness said he had received from the di-
rectory circular giving report of the proceed
ings of the convention. This circular stated that
the doctrine which the convention had adopted
was that people living under an unnatural gov
ernment and wishing to be under natural one
were entitled TO overthrow the unnatural govern
ment and establish natural government in its
place.
IT, was at this point that Mr.. Parncll appeared
IN the courtroom HIS entrance created SenSa-
ton. The witness looked steadily at Parnel for
several moments.
OF SERVICE TO THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT
Continuing his testimony witness said that he
sent copies of all documents of the Brotherhood
n the English Government at the time. Since
then they had not been in his possession Sulh-
van he said, went to England in 8S2 and re-
msned there two months.
Attorney-General Webster-How did you know?
Witness-By the underground telegraph.
Acknowledgement Webster-What is that?
Witness-Tbrough associating with those in the
confidence of the Brotherhood. Everything did
not know tried to get in any way | could. OF
nv own knowledge know that Sullivan went to
England.
In reply to a question, witness then SAID that
Sullivan upon returning from England, made d
statement TO him.
A+torncv- G. General Webster asked: Did you con-
verse with Sullivan regarding plans for future
warfare?'
WitneSs-YeS.
Attorner-General Webster-Did Sullivan refer TO
what passed with any of the leaders In the united
Kingdom?
Witness-Ycs, later in the day.
The witness then said that Sullivan tod him
that in future men would be chosen Tor the WORK
who did not exceed their orders, like Gallagher
who gave himself away, enabling jim McDef
mott TO get information. Sullivan said thaC Uney
would continue to send men TO Lnslanu u garry
on an active dynamite war
The witness further said that in circular lsSued
in 1883 every branch OF the organization was
commanded to endeavor to perIecC l'Seli III 'oHi0
particular branch of warfare.
The witness remembered converslng IN FEBRUARY.
1888, with Colonel Clingham, when something
was said about Parnen coming TO America
,phe Attorney General asked what was said, and
Sir Charles Russell objected to the question
Chief Justice 1annen-lf 1T is INTENDED 10 shoW
that meeting was arranged at which MIR. Parnel
was expected, then the question is admissible
The witness stated that Parnen ana hgan
were expected at the meeting, Mr. Parneh ana
not 20 70 America in 1883. Egan came anu
STAYED a few days with Sullivan.
Tho omen convention of the League met II
philsdelnbia on April 26 1888 Before the con-
vention witness was instructed TO secure the
largest possible attendance. Egan, Mooney and
PoIan summoned the convention. Witness at
tended as the Clan Gael delegate of the Braid
wood, ILL.,, Camp lie also represented the League
EQan did not attend the secret meetings. pu'
he requested the witness 10 inform MN OF al
the details Of the discussions, and declared ih ihal