Los Angeles daily herald., 1889-11-07
THE SEWAGE.
The Commission Still Con-
sidering Its Disposal.
SOME DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.
Storm Drains Not to Cost More Than
decentralization Works
Recommended.

The Sewer Commission was to have met at 2
o'clock yesterday, but it was not until half an
hour later that the meeting YVES called to order,
C. N. Wells in the chair snd Messrs. L. N. Breed,
Geo. Hansen, w. Fl. Workman, X. M. Hamilton,
Or. Sinssbaugh, J. E. Platter, ]. R. Toberman,G
W. Knox, E. w. Jones, and Councilman Shafer
present.
The Committee on Outfall Sewer reported
through ex-Mayor Workman, who stated that
Mr.. Shafer who was member of the commit
tee, had not signed the report. as he was in
favor of the construction of an outfsll sewer
immediately. The report stated that in the
confederation of the question the committee
came to the conclusion that If the sewage was
to be used in irrigation no outfall to the ocean
would be necessary. The next question to be
considered was whether the sewage, Ii used for
irrigation, should not be purified. If it were
decided that 1t should be purified, then the only
outfall necessary would be to the publication
works. The committee believed that as the use
of sewage in its crude state was rot desirable,
the contract with the South Side Irrigation
Company should be cancelled. This company
obtained its sewage through twenty-two-inch
pipe, and the committee upon investigation
was OF the opinion that the sewage could be
at the following points: All of the sewage of
East Los Angeles at the left bank of the river;
all the sewage between Alameda street and the
river at the Intersection Of Alameda street and
the city boundary, and all the rest of the sew
age at the southwest corner OF the city. The
committee thought that the locati IN OF the
publication works should be left to the iudg
Ment of experts, and If the works are erected
NO outfall to the ocean will become necessary,
as the water in winter time can run off with
out injuring any one. The committee recon-
mended that the city should acquire the right
of way for an outfall sewer tn the ocean so that
if it was found that the publication works were
x..,f hat irad c.1l
be built
Mr. e. M. Hamilton asked whether report
would be accepted from any one except com
mittee. He had one on the utilization of
sMr Knox suggested that this would be a
matter to come up when the report of the COM
that the best way to. proceed was to take up the
report of the committee on the interior system.
The only member of that committee present
was Mr.. e. M. Hamilton. and the proposition
Ex-Mayor Toberman suggested that the report
of the Committee on Storm Drains be taken up.
He said the only difference seemed to be as to
the amount to be appropriated for storm drains.
The committee recommended that $4,000 be
set aside for storm drains.
Ex-Mayor Workman thought that the amount
was too small. He did not think that the drains
needed could be built for $4,000. He moved
that the amount be increased to 100000,
Ex-Mayor Toberman said that the committee
had not considered regular stormdrain sys-
tenn. He did not think that $50, 900 would
properly storm drain the city, but it would re.
ieve great deal of the present need. He was
opposed to the calling for too great sum OF
money at the present time.
Ar. Knox said tn At he was satisfied that the
report on the interior system contained an
error. He did not think that any of the system
could be built by an assessment along the
street. This would be illegal, and could not be
done. He was afraid that if the amount for
storm drains were to be increased the total to
be raised by bonds would be about $500, 600.
Mr. L. N. Breed thought that the amount set
aside for storm drains was large enough at the
present time. and that the people should learn
to put up with the inconvenience and he did
not believe in putting forth extra efforts in pro-
tecting the cable company.
Mr.. Hansen thought that $4,000 would be
enough for the present.
Major Jones said that if the amount had been
arrived at by careful estimate and consider
alton, he would be quite willing to vote for the
recommendation. IL looked to him as just
"guess-at sum-" and he did not think such 8
plsn should be adopted. He doubted the wis
for the cable road. he thought it should be pro
tected just the same as any other taxpayer.
Mr. Breed thought that the amount fixed was
large enough. and no more should be asked J.,
MIR. Shafer agreed with Major Jones, and said
that it might be possible th at $50, 900 would be
enough, but the committee should nave desig.
mated the places where the storm drains are to
go, and then estimated the cost.
Mr.. Hamilton said that the entire storm
drain system would cost an immense amount,
and this should be constructed by degrees.
and the system be extended.
DR.. Sinsabaugh said that he was in favor OF
storm drains, but the whole system could not
be constructed at once. The arroyo de las
Reyes, If piped, would relieve large part OF
the trouble of the cable roads A fter this lad
been done, another part of the city could be
Mayor Workman thought that the storm
drains, sewers and fltering works could be
built for $500 900, and he read resolution to
the effect that the Council be requested to con
6Qe the QmOuut TO that sum
Mr.. Shater called attention to the fact that
under the new charter the Council would not
response to question from DR.. .Sinsabaugh,
Mr.. 6hafer said that full storm drain system
would cost about 100000. He thought that
amount would storm drain the city in fine
shape.
The motion to amend to make the amount
$1,000 was lost, and the report was adopted
=, Mr.. Shafer submitted minority report on
the outfall sewer. He recited the opinions Of
physicians to the effect that the use of sewage
Induced diseases. Leaving the use of sewage
ont OF the question two propositions were left
the choice of using purified sewage or an out
fall sewer. 1t would cost about $3.50 900 for
publication works, and if they failed to work
satisfactorily the sum expended further would
be total loss to the city. Believing that ma
jority OF the citizens were in favor OF an outfsl
sewer to the sea, and that such a sewer would
increase the value OF property in Los Angeles
and residence, he recommended that the
Council take proceedings to construct an ont
rail- sewer to the sea and a complete syStem of
sewers, as recommended by the sanitary engin-
eers.
The report was received and fled.
Ex-Mayor Workman offered a resolution to
the etfsot that the cost of the sewer system. the
altering works and the storm drains be confined
Dir. sinsabaugh thought this could be mora
fntelligently considered at later time. when
al! the different reports had been carefully CON
sidered. wa
Mr.. workman consented that his resolution
lay over.
Chairman Wells suggested that as it was DIFF
hcult to get quorum together 1t might be well
to adopts resolution to the effect that a less
number might continue the business
Mr.. Knox moved that from now on the bust.
eight constitute quorum.
Carried.
On motion of Mr.. Knox the report of the
committee on an Interior System of Sewers
OF Mr.. Jackson. He suggested that the renort
OF the Committee on the Utilization of Sewage
De taken up for discussion; but Mr. j. 4. PIster
moveu mat the report OF the Committee on the
@ UHtian sewer be taken up first and Mr.. Hansen
was was called upon to address the meeting on the
subject with regard to the probable cost of The
undertaking. He stated that the Pacific Sew
age Company had made an offer to take the
sewage OF tne southwestern portion Of the city
committee had based its estimate Of the prob.
able cost of the publication works IL was nro- |
posed to erect, including the purchase Of ths
right OF way way for the pipes. the laying Of the
he thought. could all be Done 0 at inas, an
600. DR.. Sinsabaugh said that IL Wss
mucn TO pc regretted that some of the money
spent on the elections had not been expended
some idea as to their probable cost OF creation
on large scale might have been obtained AZ