Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1889-07-27
THE ROYAL GRANTS.
MI. Labo0chere's Substitute Rejected
A Lively Debate.

When the debass on the royal grants was 70.
sumed in the English house Of commons yes.
tsrday Mr.. BrAdlaugh said he found diAlculty
in discussing the question calmly when Mr..
Balfour, outside Of the house, denounced the
objections a. disgusting and sordid. The op.
ponents Of the grants meant nothing person.
ally discourteous TO the members Of the royal
family, but were simply acting within thei,
rights when they met the demands Of the
crown on q question Of finance with direct
negative. Much of the argument in favor Of
the grants was based ON the erroneous idea that
the crown under the civil list acts from
George ! onward surrendered it's private
property in exchange for civil list Neither
George I nor his successors, Mr.. Bradlaugh
declared, surrendered anything. The pres
ent royal family never surrendered any
thing OF farthing's value TO the country. The
committee Of inquiry had elected the fact that
during the present reign the savings upon Ger:
being applied to defray the charges Of other
classes, had been handed to the queen without
the authority OF parliament and in breach Of
the statute. GCries Of 'Hear, /" shear. Right
Hon. W. H. Smith, the government leader, had
denied that the alleged savings Of the queen
were over E30O0, 900, but he declined to show
how much money had either been saved by the
queen or drawn by the other members OF the
royal family from all sources. Mr.. Bradlaugh
said there ought to be nothing 70 conceal The
fact OF the conoesling led to exaggerated ideas.
The refusal of the government TO disclose the
wealth amassed BY royalties justified the sver.
sion OF the country TO royal grants tCheers
Lord RANDOLPH Defends THE QUEEN.
Lord Randolph Churchill argued that the
original demands Of the government were Just,
besides being in conformity with precedent II
burdens were thrown upon the crown not in
tended under the civil list IL would impair the
credit of the nation and Of parliament. MI.
Bradlaugh had questioned the title Of the
crown to its estates, but successive pafliAments
yers had ever yet challenged the crowns title.
He reminded the house that Sir Henry +. Pom
sonby, her majestys private secretary, few
years ago denied reports that the queen wa
making immense investments in ground rents,
and stated that she had not FL 0O0, 900 70 invest
in anything. Lord Randolph said that the radi.
calls overestimste of the queens wealth wsa
designed to excite popular feeling against roy.
atty. He objected to the adoption Of methods
the purpose of which was to foment q clamor
against the throne, which, in spite of them
would remain steadfast in the affections Of the
people. tCheers.1 ~. %.
Lord Harrington complained Of Mr.. Brad.
laughs pedagogic and minatory air. He said
that II IL was true that the law was contfa-
vened In allowing civil list SURPRISES "a
accrue to the crown it was almost case foi
impeaching the present and former ministries.
1t was impossible, he contended, to lay down q
hard and fast rule. He thought that the queens
waiving the claims of the younger children
met the present case and that the future nigh,
be left to future parliament In any case,
the queens message was
WORTHY OF RESPECTFUL ATTENTION.
Sir Wilfred Lawson twitted the conservatives
for refusing grant to the prince consort and
evoked laughter by recalling certain uncom-
plimentary references made by Mr.. Chamber
lain to royalty.
Mr.. Goschen, chancellor of the exchequer,
after refuting in detail the contentious OF
Messrs. Labouchere and Bradlaugh, contrasted
MIR. Gladstones digniied utterances with those
heard tonight and said that there was little
need to fear the result of the debate.
Mr.. Labouchere's motion to adopt his substi-
tute for the report of the royal grants commit
tee was rejected by q vote of Dos to 116.
Mr.. Gladstone, Mr.. Morley. Sir VIM. Vernon
Harcourt, Mr.. Parnell, Mr.. O'Brien, and the
bulk Of the liberals and Parnellites voted with
the majority. The radical minority included
SIR G. Q. Trevelyan, Richard Chamberlain, and
T. P. OConnor.
Mr.. Morley will on Monday move an amend
ment declaring that the house is unwilling to
increase the burdens of the people without as
surance that no further grants will be asked.