The Daily times. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1886-1889, 1889-07-26
ENGLAND EXCITED.
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE ROYAL
GRANTS.
Taxation for the support Of tie Queens
GRANDCHILDREN Denounced a Lively
Scene I'm ParIiamcn:-fhc
PatnetI Coinmisstou.

the House OF Commons O-d1y. and
many whose faces are rarely seen with
in the Chamber took pains to grace the
occasion with their presence. The IN
tcrest in to-day s debate. on the part OF
the outsiders, was also made manifest
by the crowded condition Of the CALLER
les where every available inch Of space
was occupied. The great was.
of COURSE, the expected debate on the
subject Of the royal grants. which
Mr.. Smith. the Government leader IN
the House Of Commons. announced on
Monday would come up 10 day. The
routine business of the House. which
had to be disposed Of before the grants
came up. consumed much time. and 1t
was easy to see that this had no interest
for the majority Of those present, who
gave unmIstakabte evidence of their
impatience.
When the First Lord Of the Treasury
had formally offered the Government 5
motion to adopt lhs report on the royal
grants, he was promptly questioned by
members Of the opposition as to the
present condition Of the Queen 8
finances. They demanded 10 know
what savings the Queen had made out
OF the allowances already made for The
support Of the royal family.
Mr.. Smith declined to reply 20 these
questions which, ke claimed, were en-
tirely irrsvelant to the subie IN hand
1t was not the duty Of the sovereign.
he said. TO provide for the royal fam
ily. The Government could not be-
lieve that there existed any important
class among the royal people of the
British Empire, who grudged tOroyalty
the very moderate provision necessary
to maintain ITS dignity. dignity
which was not alone that # The royal
family but Of the Empire as well.
II the system Of other civilized
countries were examined IL would be-
found that the English was. 10y ala odds.
the most economical, furnishing as 1t
does at the moderate expense which
the support Of royal family entails
that stability which IS SO essential TO
good government, and which
obtains for Eugland the retpect
OF every people of the globe. He could
not believe that The people Ct England
were prepared 10 sacrifice for the
paltry considerations here presented
the benefits Of "A stable government
which they so largely owed to Their
royal family. Nor could he believe
that for these same considerations the
nation was prepared TO sacrifice the
dignity Of their rulers and the dignity
of the great British Empire.
Mr. LabOurchere moved his substi-
tute for the committees report. lhis
substitute is in the form Of AN address
to the Queen. stating that. IN the opln-
ION Of the House, hor majesty ought To
provide for her grandchildren out of
her present income Mr. LabCucheie
states that il was his opinion. ana the
opinion af those who stood with him on
this question. that the sums already
granted to the royal family out Of the
public treasury were quite sufficient for
all proper purposes with which the peo-
pie had any concern. lie Iidiculed the
statement that the English system was
the most economical system IN the
world. and pointed 10 the great nation
across the water. which paid iis
President a yearly salary at so 600.
as against the e10OOO0 which
the Queen and her family already
cost the people Of England every year.
lie was determined 10 oppose all further
grants to JUNIOR royalties, and he spoke
not only for himself but for many
Others who acted with him in support
of this substitute for the committee To-
port.
Notwithstanding tho refusal Of the
Honorable gentlemen 10 reply TO the IN
quiries as to the Queen 5 savings, The
government was already on record as
admitting that large savings had been
made out Of the allowances heretofore
granted the Queen for her civil list.
These savings, he understood, were
we'll invested. and If 70 was true,
rs it had been stated. that the
Queen had out of the savings given va
rlous sums to several OF her grand
children. he had no doubt there was
enough left to provide for the others.
He insisted that the extreme limit
which the nation should pot upon
its bounty to royalty was reached
when proper provision was made
foI the children Of the sovereign.
To extend the principle Of royalty
grants beyond the limit, was TO treat
with injustice the people from whom
the sums for such purpose be wrung
in taxes. The country, he claimed,
ought not to be asked to submit TO the
burden of support for an lnundatlon OF
grandchildren.
IL II were found the present wastffnl
extravaganza on the part of the royal
family would need to be kept In bounds
in the absence OF further allowances.
he should hardly consider this "a
Samuel Story. Liberal member fcr
seconded Mr.. LabOucherc .
Mr.. Gladstone said he was ayerse 10
practising any economy which would
result in lmpalriug the dignity on the
splendor Of the crown. At MS age, he
was glad TO say. he could look back
upon a long career as a representative
of that crown with feelings OF unaf-
fected pride.
Mr. Morley followed Mr.. Gladstone.
aud opposed the government g propo-
sails. The eItIayagaDt grants OF former
reigns, he said. did not excuse their re-
petition. He could not support the
substitute Of Mr.. LabOuchere. because
the message which it contemplated
sending to the Queen was not such a
ono as in his opinion ought TO be sent,
and besides be was desirous OF uphold
ing the good traditions which cluDg
about the throne. On Monday
however. he would himself -cffer
an amendment which he hoped
would bring the whole subject IN It's
broadest aspect before the house.
THE CRISIS IN THE PARNELLIrE COMSns
SION.
LONDON. June 25.-The Pdrnell com
mission has adjourned until October
oath. When the commission opened
this morning, Mr.. Hardcastie. the ac-
countant OF the National Bank, was
called to the stand. He stated That the
bank hooks belonging to the land
league, which had been produced III
court. covered the whole period OF the
leagues existence. The witness could
not say that the e75. 600 which was un-
accounted for, owing 10 the absence of