Morning journal and courier., 1888-07-31
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FROM ALL QUARTERS.
mr.. PARNELL'S Judges.
AWarm Debate In The House
Of Commons.
PAUPER IMMIGRATION.
Senator Blair Proposes A
!, Measure To Restrict 1t.
TORPEDO PRACTICE.
Sundry Bills In The Sen.
ate And House.
TORPEDO PRACTICE.
MIR. pARNELL's JUDGES.

/. MIR. PARNELLB JUDGES.
The Irish Leader objects to the Pro-
l. posed Commission = Justice Days
| Fitness Freely Dfscussed-The Course
/ ofthe Government Sharply Censured.
LONDON July 20.-the House of Commons
went into committee tonight on the bill to
investigate the charges against Mr.. Parnell
Mr.. Sexton moved to increase the number of
| judges in the case to FIVE. If it was to inquire
| into the whole history of the National league
| extending over nine years of the league, en-
bracing members in every part of the world,
/ it would take several years before the in
i quiry could be finished. Much evidence
/ might have to be sought abroad. Three
i Judges was not sufficient unless the inquiry
were limited. Mr.. Matthews in reply said
/ that the government could not accept the
| amendment, and that Mr.. Sexton had exag-
gerated the task before the commission
Doubtless the course of the inquiry would
| lead to investigations abroad, but there
would be no difficulty in taking such evil
dence. There would be nothing gained by
| increasing the number of the judges.
Mr.. Sexton then reminded Mr.. Matthews
that the commission dealt with charges for
murder and outrage and that everything
might turn upon the examination of witness
es in New York or Australia. He had moth
ing to say against two OF the commissioners,
but he was SURPRISED at the nomination of
Justice Day after his conduct during the in
quiry into the Belfast riots.
Mr.. Parnell uged the House to recollect
that they were discussing a proposal to pro-
vide substitute for the jury. While in En-
gland jury of twelve was always provided.
It was proposed that the settlement of impor-
tant, far reaching Irish issues be involved in
an inquiry to depend upon the verdict of two
men Hear, hear There was no precedent
for the commission. He denied that it was
any favor to the Irish members. On the con-
trary it was waving their ordinary position
as citizens in accepting the commits
sion. They put the public under an
obligation. While the inquiry was pending
he ought to be protected from press attacks.
The leading London Conservative paper of
longer as to his innocence or guilt, but as to
the best means to prove him guilty. (Hear,
hear.) Was he to be held responsible for
everything Patrick Ford said or did in Amer
lea, while the government We're not response
BILE for what their organs did? Irish cheers.)
Mr.. Lsbouchere called in question Justice
DAVIS fitness to serve in the commission, be-
cause in recent trial in the cases of three
Irishmen held for assault in Liverpool JUS
tice Day had said such dastardly, cowardly
and brutal crime could not have happened
in England except among the Irish. The
the committee were not discussing the quail
fcations of the members of the commission.
Mr.. Labouchere in reply explained that he
desired to show the necessity.ot neutralizing
the influence of Justice Day by increasing
the number of judges. The amendment was
voted down by majority of 43 votes.
In replying to questions from the Parnell-
ties, Mr.. Balfour defended the fitness of DR..
Barr to inspect Irish political prisoners. The
verdict of the Mitchelstown jury was entire
ly unwsrranted. Every effort would &c
made to bring the real truth about the Man
devilIe case before the country. (Cheers.)
Replying to the suggestions of Mr.. Parnell,
the solicitor general for Ireland agreed to
adjourn the trial of Mr.. O'Kelly to enable
him to vote on the commission BILL
Mr.. Smith having proposed that the COM
mission consist of Justices Hammer, Day and
Smith, Mr.. Labouchere protested against the
sslectmen of Justice Day.
T. P. O'Connor suggested that the govern
ment appoint another judge. He said there
was not single judge known as having sym
pathy with those they were to try.
Mr.Smith said he believed the judges nam
ed had the complete approval of the English
bar and everybody of judicial knowledge.
Mr.. John Morley said that he quite under
stood the governments difficulty in altering
the composition of the commission. But
that made no difference. The fact was that
it had been injudiciously selected. Hear,
hear. } Nothing had been said against Justices
Hammer and Smith Their impartiality was
unquestioned. Regarding Justice Day he
said he had received a letter from an abso-
lutely reliable source, a gentleman having
peculiar means of knowing Justice Days
mind upon Irish affairs, and he had told Mr..
Smith the name of his informant who wrote
that in stice Day 10 q man of the seventeenth
century in his views concerning Catholics.
He nightly rails against arnell and his friends;
he regards them as infdels and rebels and
as led astray by Catholic nation. He be-
lieves them guilty of any crime.
Mr.. Morley said he would not publicly give
the name He proved his good faith by tell
ing Mr. Smith (cries 'fohi oh!'O Surely in the
face of feeling of that kind toward Justice
Day the government would not retain him
on the commission, against which there ought
to be no whisper raised. He must vote against
the nomination (cheers).
Mr.. Balfour held that Mr. Morley had gone
too far to maintain any reticenee about the
writer of the letter. Justice Day had right
to ask the name of his tradueer (cheers.) Mr..
Morley had played upon the judicial in say
ing that the commission was not strictly a
judicial tribunal. True, the procedure of
the commission would differ from that of an
ordinary tribunal, but it would not differ
from the judicial spirit. Justice Day was
man of honor and showed in accepting the
post that he was not rendered incapable by
any previous action or statement approach
ing the questions with which the commission
had to deal tcheers).
Visoount Wolmer, liberal, protested against
the conduct of Mr.. Morley In reading an
anonymous letter maligning member of the
| that there was nothing sinister in his with-
holding the name of this correspondent The
person in question was colleague OF Justice
DAYS upon the Belfast commission, and was
barrister named Adams. (Cheers1
Mr.. Gladstone said he felt that it was his
duty to support Mr.. Aoriey. AFTER INFORM ,-
| ing the government regarding Justice Days
bias and giving them a chance to alter the
commission, twas right, when they refuse to
make change, to communicate the facts to
parliament also. The government might
/ readily have selected another judge, one to
| (Cries, '.hear, - s'heat.'1 Mr.. Goshen said
that Mr.. Morley had not shown the letter to
| any minister until to day. If the letter was
| intended to have any effect upon the govern
ment's selection it ought to have been shown
1 earlier.
letter on Saturday.
Upon division the vote stood: Fer Justice
Day 269, against 1870. The names of Justice
Hennen and Justice Smith were agreed to
| without division. Mr.. Anderson moved to
omit the word allegations" IN the clause
Empowering the commission TO "lookinto the
charges and allegations against certain MEM
bers Of the House of Commons" Mr.. Sex
ton commended that the word was vague and
useless, giving, in his opinion, an. indefinite
soope TO the INQUIRY. He said the govern
ment was going further, in behalf of the
Times than the Times itself desired to 60.
After nearly three hours discussion the
amendment was rejected-265 to 200.
Mr.. Reed proposed an amendment restrict-
ing the INQUIRY to accusations of completely
in murder or violence
The amendment was opposed by Mr.. Cham
berlain and others.
mR. O'BRIEN WINS EMS SUIT.
He Thinks His Victory Death Blow
TO ssParneIlIsnR and Crime
49, I'll, IN Tho Hha1 action of Will