New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-11-16
AGAINST HOME RULE.
n6poRTANT DEMONSTRATION BY IRISH NON
CONFORMIST CLERGYMES.
uR. MArrHEws's INJUSTICE TO SIR CHARLES
wARREN-A CIVILIAN TO COMMAND THE
LONDON PoL1cE-MR CHAMBERLAIN's
POLITICAL INTENTIoNs-BUTTER'
SCOTCH AT THE GLASGOW
BANQUET
fBY CABLE TO THE TRIBUNE
Copv,i0ht; 1888; By The Ner- York 1rtottne.

COpIf1Ghr 1885, by i"c no"-1"" A''~''N'
London Nov. 15.-It is idle to deny the impor-
tance and significance of yesterdays demonstra-
tiou against Home Rule There are 900 non-Epis-
conal ministers in Ireland, including Presbyterians,
Raptists. Methodists and Congregationalists. Or
these. ss4 signed an anti-Home Rule address TO
Lord Salisbury and Lord Harrington or the
minority who declined to sign only eight were
Home Rulers This was presented at great
dinner IN London by deputation, the head OF
which was the Moderator Of the Presbyterian
Assembly of Ireland. They are nearly all LAD
erals. but they look on Home Rule with undls-
guised terror. Their attachment to Liberal prln-
ciples is they insist, as strong as ever; but among
these principles they do not include Home huie
for Ireland They live there; they think they
know what the effect of it would be, ana they
bear testimony against it as experts botn Lord
Salisbury and Lord Harrington made speeches.
but the interest of this occasion was not IN the
speeches. but in the presence of those to whom
they were made
The criticism of the Gladstone organ in Lon
don on all this is entirely beside the mark. Filings
at Irish Nonconformists come with ill-grace from
q journal which processes to be the oracle OIL
Noncouformity in England. We must go 10
the provinces for adequate recognition OF the ln-
portance Of this demonstration. " The Leeds Mer-
curyn is an out-and-out Home Rule paper pub
IL does not think it necessary to treat the lrlsh
Presbyterian ministers or the intelligence of its
. readers with contempt This clerical association,
In its opinion, gives prominence to an acKnowi-
edged difficulty which besets the settlement OF the
irish question on a basis of self-government, and
it honestly quotes their declaration that they do
not believe that any guarantees moral or material
could be devised which would safeguard the rights
Of mjnorities scattered throughout Ireland against
If fbe majority vested with IogS-
,ative and executive functions. This distrust, of
course is not shared by the journal l quote, but
A. sees clearly that these ministers represent great
body of public opinion in Ireland which has not
yet been concilated
The dismissal of Sir Charles Warren continues
to provoke the Gveliest discussion. 1here are
with respect to the retirement of Sir Charles, two
parties: the Home Secretary and the demagogues
against him. the whole party of law and order
for him. lie has stood for year between London
and mob law, and all but the mob acknowledge
his services Even Mr. Matthews has been driven
TO acknowledge them, but too late. Contemptuous
rs the Home Secretary is of public opinion, ne has
in this instance bowed to it far as to pronounce
q just eulogy the officer he has disgraced. Inc
organ of his party told him yesterday that he had
been guilty of violation of the common courtesles
of official intercourse. He had treated the Chief
Commissioner of Police, who commands force OF
nearly IA, 900 men, as mere underllng who had
TO submit to wiggings through clerk VINO, at
Mr.. Matthew's instance, the writer of most
unmannerly and offensive note. Most people,
concludes this journal will think the episode
ended in the resignation of the wrong man.
Seldom has Cabinet Minister had to endure
such a lecture rs this 1t brought Mr.. Matthews
to his knees. He was lavish yesterday, in the
House, of civilities to the distinguished soldier
whom he insulted last week But the mischief
done cannot be undone. 1t is vain Tor MT
Matthews to deny that agitation had anything to
do with Sir Charles's treatment. He would never
have dared to deal thus with the Chief OF Ponce
had he not known the party of disorder would
welcome any affront put upon the guardian OF
order In the House as in the press they broke
out again yesterday Stale fctons about
the brutalities of the police in Trafalgar
Square were once more heard, false as foolish.
Sir William Haraourt came to Mr.. MatthcwSs
rescue on technical matters as Home Secretary
always does to a Home Secretary. The theory IN
the Department is Aiat Minister do no
wrong. The Chief of Police is, of course, sub
ordinate to the Home Office. Sir Charles never
denied it. but Mr.. Matthews's behavior to him
was none the less ntoerablc and the loss to the
public service is the less heavy.
The outcry against putting soldier over a
civilian force is renewed to-day in the interest of
civilians who want to succeed Sir Charles Warren.
But civilian will do well in proportion as he has
military qualities. The London police have at
all times more or less military work 10 do. AT
critical times if they are not handled like troops
they will be beaten The expectation is however,
that a civilian will get the place.
Mr. Chamberlain's absence in America is com
mented on by sundry Gladstonian journals as If
It were a kind of political abdicaton. They ad-
nit the validity of his excuse, and some of them
offer him congratulations which have not much
SAVIOR of sincerity The politics OF the hour are
bitter and the Liberal divisions broad as to
be deemed hopeless But it is understood on both
sides that Mr.. Chamberlain is content, for the
present to leave his political conscience IN Lord
Hartingtons keeping
The American Minister dined yesterday by
the Corporation of Glasgow. There is a sweet
meat known as butter this was brought on
at dessert Mr.. Phelps declared the hearts of the
American people warm toward Scotland. He
praised Scott praised Burns, praised their country
praised Scotch shipbuilders, and praised Scotch
emigrants to America We have had them,' he
said. in all classes of life. There is no profession
they have not adorned, no pursuit they have not
made successful industry, high or low, they
have not dignifed' This well received by
the Corporation Of Glasgow, and will surely he
well received in America because IT is all true and
well said. u W. ..
MINISTER PHELPS IN GLASGOW.
Iondon Nov 15.-Mr. Phelps, the American Min