Morning journal and courier., 1888-08-03
THE GovERNmENT WINS.
Every Proposition From She ParRell
 Ites Voted Down and the Irish Men

Every Proposition From She Parnell-
 ites Voted Down and the Irish Mem
 berS Finally Leave:the House.
 LONDON, Aug 2.-The debate on the Par nell commission was resumed in the House of Commons to day. MT. Labouchere called the attention of the House to the breach of privilege of which the Times to-day was guilty in charging the Parnellites with trying to drown the commission bill with food of blackguardism unparalleled in the history of Parliament. It deplored the circumstance that MT. Gladstone and Sir William Har- court completed the foul-mouthed oratory of their Irish allies.
 MT. Goschen conourred in the charge that breach of privilege had been committed by the Times and there was no use to mitigate the fact by saying that strong language had been used by the Parnellites against the Times under the protection of privilege. But if the House followed precedents it would not now deal with the breach of privileges, but would proceed with the bill, which was the business of the day. Mir. Goschen moved to that effect.
 MT. Gladstone seconded it and advised Mir. Labouchere to withdraw the question of privilege, to which he (Mr. Labouohere) aRE0cu. 1lNs 0lhaHtOuo uos1160t uc SHAd, tO return good for evil in not pressing the ques- ton at present. But Mir. Sexton was less conciliatory and said that he despised to commend the paymasters and aecomplices of forgery. (Parnellite cheers.
 TO STOP THE REBATE.
 MT. Goschen then moved that the debate proceed on the bill to investigate the charges against the Parnellites if it were still under discussion at midnight. To this the House
 4Ixakk k1A nIas- shonld have power at o'clock in the morn- ing to put the remaining clauses.
 MT. Reed appealed to the government to respect the right of the minority to obtain a full discussion of obnoxious clauses and hoped that they would net close the debate until the final clause had been discussed, which was to exonerate the Times from an action for libel
 Mir. Healy said the motion was another proof that the Conservatives were prepared to treat the Parnellites in the same manner as the red Indian who danced around his yic- tins at the stake.
 Sir William Harcourt said that the son to justify it. The bill was of such importance that it ought to be adequately discussed. The government, he said, did not want further discussion as the effect upon the country would be unfa- vorable to them. They therefore abused their rights as a majority in order to gag their political opponents.
 MT. T. P. OConnor said that the closure of debate as proposed amounted to decree that the most important proposals in the bill must be passed without discussion. It was an act of brute violence on the part ot the government.
 Sir Charles Lewis lConservative) contended that the obstructions tactics the Parnsllifes justified the motion. Their style of discus. sion disgraced Parliament.
 MT. Timothy Healy moved to amend the motion by inserting the words eff the chair man 50 thinks" thus leaving to the discre- ton of the chair the application of the clo- sure rule.
 MT. Balfour refused to accept the amend ment, saying that the chairman ought not to be burdened with such responsibility. Sir Lyon Playfair declared that the motion was the most unfortunate precedent that the government could put. Such closure had been unheard of.
 Mr. Healy's amendment was rejected-2e5 to 233.
 MT. Justin Mccarthy moved an amend nent extending the inquiry to the circum- stances under which the charges were origi- | nalIy made and published by the Times. MT Matthews, home secretary, held that tho amendment was needless. MT. 0. H, Ander son, Liberal, claimed that it was important l to krow how many forged letters the Timel | had, and how they had been obtained. MT. Sexton said the Parnellites invited tht | fullest inquiry into the remotest facts con. i nected with "Parnellism and Orimen if i was conducted by reasonable mode of pro cedure. It was important to find under wha motive the forged letters were written. I MT. Stayeley Hill, conservative, said tha unless good account could be given o how the Times came to possess the letters or person could be produced who sold O | gave them, and who would be able to stan, an examination as to how he got them, tn | judges would not accept the letters as gem ! inc. Mr. McCarthy's amendment was de feated.
 He always looked upon the letters as see needed not in the character of Mir. Parne alone, but into that of the whole party to SC whether they were fit to be xulexs of Ireland