New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-02-08
TEMPERANCE REFORM.
II DOES NOT REQUIRE A NATIONAL PRoHi-
DlTION PARTY
AN ARGUMENT BY Dn II. IL CARROLL A'AiNo'
CHECKING GREAT MORAL WORK pf MAkiNd

CHECKING GREAT MORAL WORK by MAhiNd
IT SUBSIDIARY III PARTY POLITICS
Irnd.p tho ouspices Of the Prohibition party
,;sonssior ~ the snhicct whether the temperance
,ro,,o rocpires n National Prohibition party was
held in the Broolllvn Academy OF music on
Thursday evening February 2. Tho chosen az
vocate Of the Proh.bitionists was General Cnh-
ton T. Fisk lately their candidate for Governor
Of New-Jorsey. The other side of the question
was supported by DR.. H. X Carroll, OF The
independents" who spoke as follows:
DR. CARROLLS SPEECH
MR. CuArrMAN. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
am not here tonight as political partisan nor
as en- opponent of the principle of Prohibition am
q firm believer I'm Prohibition and would most heart
liz ion you and march under your political banner II
could convince myself that God has reserved 10 you
tho tas, OF establishing Prohibition In TINS lahd'
most heartily respect you for your cause is the cause
Of God and humanity yolr courage is the courage oi
heroes and your devotion the devotion OF martyrs.
lAulauscD i am sorry that cannot adn thai YOU
wisdom is he equal OF your oI' S xsor Of Your as
sanlt Is always against the foe and not sDno'nei
yonr bullets TOO often strike from behind men engage
In the forefront of The battle against thc enemy a.
Iicrs your intolerance OF hosts Of active arg ScuSi
foes OF the saloon II IS because beleve ,na o GU1
have assumed impossible tasks as cQndon tI1ccuo,r
10 The achievement OF the great object wiSh y1ha
party name stands for; it Is because beieyo tns 'e
ho be friends OF temperance reform and enconr-
sgc It's foes il l. because believe your po,.lca Poisy
cause such my convictions that have eccSp Az
III courteous invitation TO como here tonight ara aus
cnss with The assurance Of fair hearing the question
The Temperance Reform Does not Require Nauo7ai
Prohibition Party
Tho prohibition party proposes but one legal method
of fighting the saloon. and that is Prohibition ana Dnt
one form Of Prohibition. and that IS state or Federal
II has fsh i'm but one way of reaching aud enforcing
this Prohibition and that Is by The Prohibition parry
II believes only in pori,an Prohibition II has no
I'd az
II Is Prohibition inflated. advocated and enforced bH
satisfy H. Lest lie accused Of instrumentation
here l VIII give my authority; IL IS found IN re- o.
OF he Prohibition party at Chicago November ., losp
These resolutions declare that while the prohibition
good faith 10 secure thc submission Of constitutional
amendments. 10 ihc extent OF signing petitions IN
adoption Of such amendments. experience IN me
past has saSfcd Us that orr main W9ER sho~ re e
10 cnlieien the pconie ana SHOW tn"In ma n az n
L. no cFcctual Prohibition Of the liquor trahc even
though Prohihitory C0nstiini0na amendments shoNld
lc adopted. without lary behind these amcndmonot
10 give them force 10y the adoption and enfotcemcnt
Prohibition party even doridcs non partisan en"rs,
and calls those who arc active in these enoii :
IFS nlatform for any methods Of restriction where state
Prohibition IS not Immediately available. II dis.
tinctly diSconraS,., Local Option as being ''o
mis- then j. the position Of the rr ,EH pro
bihjtion marty Itself as Is Immediate and ultimate
Pm' And Ills Is is policy To discourage All other
efforts restrictive or rroIihtlvc, whether Rcpubli-
can. Democratic non-pari>an
What chance has the Prohibition party on snch
platform and with such policy. Of 'ncre'S A D,
s0lutcly none as It scrrls to me: ana WIFI give So"
some OF my reasons for so thinking
TIE TASK rEFonE THE THIRD PARTY
In the first place II assumes two almost impossible
preliminary taSls. The overthrow OF the saloon IS
Itself almost impossible task Sober mon cenoot
contemplate in all the fulncss Of It's power without
sudden ebbng Of courage, certain fearful ioelod ~
Tie saloon is everywhere. and everywhere is curse
II has more bars than God has sltals; more priests
than God has preachers and almost many schools OF
nf0my tho public has schools Of Lean ming lis vast
army Of patrons are LOYAL t. It's Interests ana
~ them hold no viGc too dear (" saciice in It's behalf
Consider, also. IN" enormous capital II comnandS ~
vast volume of business amounting to TJOO.o0OOoO
yearly: its enormous profits the wide range OF IT, man
ufacfuring say. It's character its
numbers It's resources. its power OF self propagation
aud it, held upon humanity, aLd i must appall iLc
SouteSt hearted and chill the blood of the most san
guinc
PIT eentlcnca Of the Pro1Glen g;Ty yoo have
Iminay tasks which. to everybody but you must
Sccm hopclcSS-I mean the destruction practically nt
un, y6l have political power: yon cannot have
political power Untl Won can wlcst it from the old
must practically destroy the Republican party In tho
North and tie Democratic party Of the south; up
plausc) et me l~o.nd yo1 that Oh established parties
HE The democratic vd Republican. are not often or
cosily killed Yon all remember At the close Of our
tivl War the feeling was quite general that The l@mo
cratic party had reached The end of IT. history i had
cspouScd the cause OF slavery. il had waEcd bitter
a,d bloody war against the Union AMI the Cunstitu-
ton: ard. when the Rebellion put down. men said
Democratic party fell with Ia" tOnfcder3cN.
lrust never be rcsurrected Mat was less Than twenty
I'VE t {ssS az - T taS oc ph5 r na 3
tho mn vigor Of ne and power holding ihc einS Of
rebellion VIII no; Lii party, what have you, gentle
men. that IS more cnectuall Npplausel
But you say The Republican party Is doomed. also
The Grand Old Party nnSt go. It has done glorious
things IFS record is without tsin Of treason; it saved
IL restored the Union II brought back peace and
pcrty 10 distracted nation 1t is the party of Lin
In md nrtlf -nf col
DO YOU think tai If wic~dress could not xiii Tie Demo
cratic party. virtue viii make the Republican party
an easy prey! NWlp'Scl
RESISTANCE OF THE OLD PARTIES.
You expect to succeed 10y detaching the better Gle
mont from these old parties and attaching il TO your
own. You must wreck and rob these oil parties 50 TO
sTeak, in order to equip your own You 60 to the
democratic party In the So'ith ard say: Your ship is
rascally old hulk; ours is now albeit very tiny
craft. Go 10: will batter your msnoiwar to piece,
and then we viii take Of the pieces and make our own
never to the veterans who man the old ship ia
protect themselves from the attacks of your little canoe
party in the North may be wise enough and strong
enough to ccumvent your plans and resist your attacks
IT does not seem 10 occur TO you that both Of these
ola parties T instinct be created GsS'
And Is it not perfectly plain that, possess
ins this instinct which belongs 10 everything that has
NE both the old parties VIII know how Ia protect
Ut ne illustrate. We Will take the STATE Of New
Y0rk Here the two old parties are nearly evenly
divided ana requires very args change OF votes Il
give the victory 10 either party. Ia the Repubilcai
party there very large Temperance element, whcl
T. gre wing and pronounced every year anC
more strenuous I'm its demands for proper Temperance
legislation. LIT Us suppose that the Republican parry
chooses 10 ignore resist these demands Your party
wud pro- ably grow. gentlemen; and the growth o
Your parry would be at the expense of the lscpnbca
party, and that party would find. by and by, thai 1t
campaigns Re wcll-nich hopeless, and II wOud SCI
thai IL the temperance detection that was crppiln
il. The liquor interests being safely housed III IN
Democratic party, it would understand that lis return
10 power conld only he effected by taking strong
temperance gronud When II ID that az 1t sntei!
vun.d where would your party be Gone Ike
WI ~ o. smoke IN clear November air NplIause.
50 u VIII be I'm other states The pressure OF IN
femp,rarce element from within the Republican party
IN The North and from within the Democratic party Il
the Soth, j. reSls;les' pressure. and Instead OF co
10 Won. a. YOU imagine. this element will secure wha