Springfield daily republic. [volume] (Springfield, O. [Ohio]) 1887-1888, 1888-02-16
TwENTT THOUSAND
WAS WHAT GRANVILLE ofFEsEo Tl
PRODUCE EVIDENCE FCa
His Letter Making the Eid Il Read "
Coart-The states Ae"raeys ha..,'
D1latery and Ha-nssing Tasl!.s .no
littls Progress L. Made.
CoIuNRr,s, q. Eeb-uary &c.

CoIuNsrs. o., Feb-usry lS.
A larxe crowd assembled a; Judge rugs,',
room yesterday morning To hear the open
ing testimony Of the defense in the tall,
sheet caSe Mr. Converse r,se ~ soon ..
court vas opened and called for the con
tract between the Citizens Committee and
Colonel Duff and Others. MIR. Euling an.
nounced that he had tclcgraphei tuesday
afternoon for the paper aud received word
that il vas on the way. The deicnse ths,,
called Mr.. J. 4. Clark. of Chicago. one q:
the alleged firm OF detectives, Clark & Lyt,
de. - their firss witness, but before he was
sworn, Mr.. Huling asked that all other wit
nesses for the defense be excluded from the
room. This necessitated = call Of all the
witnesses, who number over eighty. and in
clude all the defendants and . number of
Chicago parties besides residents of Colnn,-
bus
Mr. NcSweeney asked that IN exception
20 the rule Be made in favor Of the defen-
dants Blackburn aad Myers until the de-
sense reached that point in the case where
the testimony covered matters about which
the gentlenien in question veg to testify
The presence Of Mcssrs. Bls6&burn and
Ayers was desired BY counsel during the
examination of Mr. Clark and Others
Colonel Taylor speaking in behalf OF his
client Mr.. Myers and also for Mr.. Black
burn. asked that permission t. remain dur
Ing The proceedings be allowed them. He
urEed - Q reason the fact that the parties
were all 70 be tried under the same indict-
ment and as the testimony against all
would b very much the aame. he thought
d no more than fair that they should be
present
Judge Thurman argued for the enforce
nent Of the rule, bat admitted that the
question was one 70 be left to the discretion
q the court In reply to Colonel Taylor.
he said that IL the parties had % elected.
they could all have been tried at the same
dime, but ss the right Of separate trial had
been demanded, the other defendants had
no more rights than any other witnesses.
While admitting that, in view OF the fsct
that the proceedings were being published
% fully in the. newspapers, there could not
much good result from the separation Of
witnesses. yet no stronger case than the one
before the court, . case-i coeupiracy, could
arise where the discretion 0f the court
should be exercised u exclude from the
court room, certain oo-defendantA
Judge Pugh relaxed the rule. counsel for
the defense having announced that as soon
- they reached tha, point in their case
where matters about which Measrs. Black.
burn and Myers were converSant would b
examined upon. the court should b in
termed Of it
Mr. Ciark was then sworn and proceeded
with his testimony. being examined by Mr..
Converse. He is . tall man Of rather strik-
ing appearance, being Of swarthy COM
Dlexion, with black eyes and fun beard
of the same color. He wxs dressed in Q
suit Of black, and presented . somewhat
clerical appearance - be took his seat in
the chair. The following is the testimony
during the forenoon:
q IBy NJ, : ces,sr'e,-wh.' sSss Is yo~
O. Nhat is the ~" fort A-John B.
QEwhsre do you reside, A-Chicaga.
Q-What is your place Of residence, A.
EnEiewood, Chicago.
QEHow far is that from the city itsslfS
A-About ten or twelve milea
Ozone q Tie suburbsy A-A subur-
ban town.
ON. ciark, what is your general
bushes. and special business IL you have
any! A-The detective business
o-Hos long have you been engaged
more or le. in the detective bu.ins0f
A-Oh, about swo ysarA going O tvs
Q-Have you been engaged In other
business during that time besides the do
sective busines-any smploynsntr A.
Yea, sif, have.
Q-what' Al have sesn employed %
Q newSpaPef.
Q-what paper! A-Ths Exchange 4
time, after copy Of ths English paper.
Q-About what time were you sneaeed
sn the Exchange 4 Aartf A out JAM
1ary I. 1887.
OIL will ask you whether you had. this
last summer or spring and year, cards and
letter heads published of an agency, Of .
detective seency bearing your name? A.
Yes. sir. Not my name, tut bearing ths
name Of A. +. Lyttle L Co.
Q-You wefs . member of thatf A
Yea ar.
OWN you explain. II you please, 10
the Jury, how that came To be formed and
Who took part in its formations
Al this point Judge Thurman objected.
and there was an animated argument over
the adm;ssibility OF the testimony Judks
Thurman referred 70 the charge Of con.
spifacy among citizens. and cited the
Ravenna murder case, in which Mr.. Nc.
Sweeney was one of the counsel for the
0tasa. - an instance where money had
bssn subscribed BY citizens for the ferret
ing out Of crime. He argued that the ses-
timony vas not admissible for the purpose
oe impeaching Granville Is il Was not upon
matters pertaining to the issue
Colonel Taylor followed Judge Thurman,
and in the course Of his remarks denounced
Granville in the strongest possible termA
He said that Granville came here with
man whom be acknowledged 70 be his
6naucial agent (refenins to Colonel DuA,
Who vas in the court roomt and then after
peddlinG out information for money, went
upon the witness stand and talked about Q
vfestle which he had with God on the
prairies Of Illinois.
Mr.. NcSveeney followed in . long and
eloquent speech lasting until Q few min
uteS after twelve O'Clock, the hour for re-
cess. He also referred 70 Colonel DUFF or
NscduG. he said he had forgotten which it
vas Colonel Duff interrupted snd said TO
leave the MAC" on. Mr.. McSweeney:
Wen leave il on and Lay on Macdun, and
damned veil be if you don't cry, hold!
enough" before We get through. He re-
ing between Granville and Dun. before
which, he said, the friendship of
Damon and Pythias ''paled its in
effectual fires" Duff's friendship for Gran
vile reminded him, he said, Of Ruth aud
Naomi. WHITTIER thou eoest I will TO-"
and, Mr.. McSweeney added, we'll see that
you die together. and are both buried in
The same grave. He denounced Granville
- man who repented for . consideration,
and whose pangs OF conscience were regu-
lassd BY market price.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Judge Thurman argued further In sup
port Of his objection TO the testimony st
The opening Of the afternoon session. He
took occasion to give the witness Clark Q
ss~ere rap. charging that he had sold out 70
The other side.
Judge Pugh then rendered his decision
q the objection. which WAS sustained.
The examination of Mr.. Clark was then
allowed TO proceed, and the following facts
were ELECTED from the witness: july q
1851, Clark wrote . letter, dictated by
Granville, to Mr.. Hnling. The letter vas
written on paper beaded A. T. Lyttle 4 Co.,
Detective Agency. The latter was pro-