New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-07-17
NO DISCUSSION ALLOWED.
ME-. PARNELL ASKED TO ACCEPT OR RE-
JECT THE COMMISSION WITH
OUT DEBATE.
THE rAnxEIIIrE MEMBERS INDIGNANT AT MR.

nell against that paper.
Mr. Smith, the Government leader, replied that
il the question was intended to suggest that the
Government had received from the Attorney Cen
cral any communication whatever respecting mat
tiers which had come to his THE Attorney Generals
knowledge counsel, lie must distinctly say that
there was not the slightest foundation for any
such assertion
Attorncy-Gcneral Webster asserted that he had
neither received any communication from the
Government nor given the Government any infor-
nation, either direct indirect, i'll reference 10
the matter referred to-
Mr. Sexton asked whether the Attorney-General
was not consulted in preparing the motion or franz
ing the bill in regard to the proposed commission
OF inquiry into The TImes's7 charges. {" Hear,
hear")
Mr. Smith-The bill is drawn and there has
been no necessity to consult tho Attorney-Gencral.
conservative cheers)
Mr. Parncll expressed dissatisfaction with Mr..
Smiths explanation and for the purpose of OBJ
tanning full debate of the subject, he moved an
adjournment.
The Speaker said it would be a violation of
the rules 10 proceed with the debate when motion
relating to the same question was already recorded.
Mr.. Parncll-My motion refers to the position
on the paper of the BILL not to the merits of the
bill. l simply desire that the House, the
representative of the English and Irish nations,
should discuss the measure.
The Speaker-Order! Obey my ruling
Mr. Parnel-What, against my motion to ad-
journ?
The Speakcr-It is quite out of order.
Mr. Gladstone here asked if a vote on the motion
for leave to introduce bill for the appointment
of q commission of inquiry would be taken to-
night.
Mr. Smith said he had hoped it would, but if
it was opposed it could not be taken. 1t is for
Mr. Parnell to say" he said, whether he ac-
ccpts the proposals of the Government. We do
not desire to debate the bill. If the proposals
arc received copies of the bill will be Immediately
circulated among the members will then fix a
time for the second reading but must frankly say
that l will not make any arrangement for debat-
ing bill of this kind. Panelitc Obs l
certainly will not occupy the time of the House
at any length in discussing the measure
Mr. Parnoll-Docs the Right Honorable gentle
man referring to Mr. Smith mean to say that
we are not TO be allowed TO debate the bill, but
must accept like sheep the judgment of jury OF
butchers. Irish checrsD
Mr.. Smith-If there Is any opposition to the
bill it will probably hinder vote being taken
tonight. vote cannot be taken after II o'clock
The Parncl.ite members herc left the House TO
consult on the course to pursue.
After midnight Mr.. Smith formally moved that
the House permit the introduction of the bill
Mr.. Parnell rose tc oppose the motion lie
EXPRESSED surprise that Mr.. Smith should make
such a motion without dcigning to explain the
provisions of the bill A more mOnstrous propo-
sition had never been madc by Minister occupy
ing such a position. Cheers from the Opposi-
tion bcnches) After informing Mr. Balfour that
he might suppress his ill-tmcd levity until he
had heard the end of the story, Mr. ParneH pro-
ccedcd:
II the letters arc genuine not an honorable but
dshonorabe member and it is the duty OF the leader
OF Parliament and the Nation insist upon thorough
inquiry instead Of saying that 1t is for me to say whecF
10 accept the LII Checrs) llc wants me to ac-
cept the bill knowing tho names OF the jury OF
indces selected Iv himself! Why should | trus: him
know that his party his attorney have made them
selves accompccs these foul iibcls. (Cres OF oh!
oh.~ ana cheers
How can trust him to do me justicc7 1 cannot TO-
night say whether accept reject II appears TO me
thai Government desires to put the cart before the
loisc-to keep the question of the authentcly OF ina
forged letters in the background But shall give 10
chance to honorable member to back out Of IT, and
find on examining details OF the bill In committee that
they fail the fair inquiry which demand snail
claim my right
Mr. Parncll was here interrupted by loud laugh
Ter from the Conservatives, leading the Speaker to
try loudly: Order! ordcr!" while Parncllitc
was heard to shout: Sure, they're only pack
of cads!" Amid the excitement one OF the men,
lcrs rose for the purpose Of naming the offending
member but the Speaker ignored t-lc matter. Mr.
Parncl continued, saying:
shall claim my right to enforce the Judgment Of the
House those details But for the present decline
to bargain Mr. Smith. (Chcers)
Mr. Smith, replying said thai nc had given IN
the terms of the motion. the fullest description
of the measure. and that on the second reading
the Parneitcs would have an adequate chance OF
discussing the measure. as also in committee
when the names of the judges would be given
Replying to Mr.. Sexton. Mr. Smith promised
that the bill would be printed on "Wednesday
and that the second reading would be moved on
the following Monday. lie expressed the hope
that the debate would not be prolonged. There
upon the bill was read the first time.
Mr. Parncll was interviewed in the lobby, and
stated that the position assumed by the Govern
mcnt was intolerabc and unhcard of. They had
offered him. as an alleged criminal tribunal OF
their own choosing and constituted III accordance
with their own views, but had sought TO depar
him from debating their pcsition merely asking
him TO accept or reject their offer. VINO ever
heard of o man accused of crimes being caIcd
upon to approve of the court proposed to try INN
Mr. Parncll said he must examine every possible
bearing of the bill before he would permit 1t 10
proceed in the House.
Il intended, in my remarks in the House." SAID
Mr. Parncll to cast reflections upon Engllsh
Judges. / merely wished TO emphasize my op-
lection TO having jury selected and the nature OF
reference determined by the Government and The
Times, who naturally bear toward us in this
matter the relation Of a butcher TO a sheep
HISTORY OF EMPEROR FREDERICK'S ILLNESS.
Berlin July Id-EmperOr William has agreed to
tho proposal that hs mother should bear the ti'ie OF
Empress and Queen Frederick
Empress Victoria has requested DR.. Mackenzie to
nronare for her true history Of the late Emperor
FredcricKs Illness. in order 10 correct the German
doctors assertions Is not known whcthcf ihe fHi-
press will make public the report
BILL TO ABOLISH DUELLlNG in fRANCE
paris Lny IG.-EshOp Freppel lniIOduced a Dln