Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1888-09-27

In response to question by Mr.. Coleman as Il
home. senator voorhees, SAID that he had made s en-
speech at fonkers but had failed TO get a crowd
he had visited Mr.. SLahlnecker at his home. They
had
TALKED ABOUT CARRYING NEW YORK.
Mr.. Coeman-Anything about carrying tht
Quarry3
Senator voorhees, replied that the subject OF qhe
marble might have been touched upon. With 5:
said that he would be frank TO say thai he was Io
sure that Mr.. Stahlnecker had tod him that he OI
nus father haa personal interest In the quarrils
Witness, however, understood that they did hakt
such an interest. At the time Mr. Stanlnecker vi
not chairman OF the Library committee, but Il
pected TO De appointed 10 that position. Wltnt l
said that he had advised Mr.. Stanlnecker not 70
cept this chairmanship since he was 30 much AL
terested 10 this marble. Mr.. stahlnecker thel
told him that NE had
NO PERSONAL INTEREST IN THE QUARRIKs,
but, as witness understood, that MS father had
Witness did not, he said, know the character Of
this interest, whether as receiver or not. He was
surprised wnen Mr.. Stahlnecker said he had nc
personal interest In the quarry for he had thought
10 the contrary. he still advised Mr.. Stanlneckel
not TO accept the craftsmanship OF the House
Library committee Mr.. Stahlnecker seemed Ia
take different view OF the matter Witness had
Was proper In sucn matters, but as MT StahL.
necker thought differently he said no more. he
was very friendly 70 Mr.. stanlnecker. With rela-
witness had thought that granite ought to be
used. He went 10 see Mr.. Lamar and Mr.. Smith
meyer for nj. Stahinecker, aud they too thought
granite ought 10 be used.
Al TO THE GUARDIANSHIP OF THE HOUSE LIBRARY
COMMITTEE,
witness said that he thought it improper that Mr..
Stahlnecker should hold that place under the cir.
cumstances. He Ielt 1t his duty to the Speaker
on the subject. He did so. He told MI. Carlisle,
he SAID OIL Mr.. StahlneckerS interesting himself In
the matter OF material, and suggested the
Improperly OF his appointment as chairman
Of the the Library committee tue the Speaker
mined on that matter; tnat he had selected
Judge Catchings for that position. Witness said
that the speaAer spoTe very positively; He added
ings wanted he position, and wnen witness sug-
gested Mr.. Cox he said that he would be glad To
appoint Mr.. Cox II ne would accept; but that he
doubted his doing SO, as lie wanted the chairman
ship or the census committee. Witness said he
knew Mr.. Smithmeyer very well, and knew MOTH
high reputation and Of incorruptlble honesty.
Witness considered him highly competent archi-
tect and an honorable gentleman.
SENATOR VOORHEES, cRoss-ExAMINED.
On cross-examinaton Mr.. Wilson said: It has
been stated here that the charges against Mr..
Stahlnecker were submitted to you and approved
by you, and that you desired to be here not only
as witness but In order to prosecute MI. StahI-
necker.
senator voorhees, never saw the charges
Mr.. Coleman-1 have no recollection Of any such
Mr. Catchings-I think 1t was stated by Mr..
Mr. Coleman-Not that the charges had been
submitted II stated that stated what was not
true.
Senator Voorhees, never saw any charges
against Mr.. Stahlnecker. l was advised that Mr..
Kelley intended TO offer resolution, and saw II
partially In FORM did not feel called upon to ad-
wise the oldest member In service of the House OF
Representatives as to his duty, one way or the
other. knew what knew about the matter;
I'D hat has
instgated the reso ution nor sought to prevent It.
It was changed somewhat AFTER saw it. / did
passed between gentlemen; neither did
I r.. shrink 80. from being present TO testify:
what led him to think that Mr.. Stahlnecker or
his father had interest in the Quarries. But he
got the impression from what Mr.. Stahlnecker said
matter. Mr.. stahlnecker had not told him 30 In &c
many words.
JUSTICE LAMAR ON THE STAND
Justice Lamar was put upon the stand He de.
scribed his connection with the Library Commits
sion. He said that he knew Mr. Stahlnecker. Mr.
Stahlnecker had recommended to him the accept
ance. Witness had an impression that Mr.. Stahl-
necker or his father had an interest in the Quares
referred to. He could not say that Mr. Stahlnecker
had told him so. He got his impression, though,
from his conversations with him.
On cross-examin ton Mr.. Wilson asked II Mr..
Stahlnecker had asked TO have the marble &C
cepCe0 without REGARD 10 ltS merits.
"NO, sir" replied the witness. "Quite to the
contrary. He was very distinct in stating that he
did not want the marble selected unless It could
stand the test. He wanted 1t to stand on Its
AS to how witness got the impression that Mr.
Stahlnecker had some sort OF personal interest
sa.d on that subject. He thought Lnat no Secre-
tary OF the Interior should be required to testify
as to conversations. They had too many. They
could not remember everything. He thought that
Mr.. SLahlnecker had given him In some way "a
understand that he (Stahlnecker) was personal y
interested In the matter for his guidance In COM
On redirect examination he was asked: .'For
his guidance hOw?"
given him the impression that he had some inter.
est In the quarry, as he supposed, for the purpose
OF allowing him TO deduct from the weight OF his
recommendations. The idea was not TO let wit
ested, 80 that witness might not be deceived, but
could weigh the Recommending accordingly.
spoken TO him about cement.
Judge Taylor asked Justice Lamar II he had
Thought that tnere was anything improper In Mr..
Stahlnecker's action.
NOTHING CORRUPT.
Witness wanted to know the sense OF this term
II BY 1t was meant merely indicate.
"No," said Judge Taylor "Anything corrupt
Improper in that sense"
mo-" replied the witness; sit did not occur tc
In his action. II was as a mcinber OF Congress
may interest himself In the erection OF public
building in his own town or the Improve
menC Of harb0r In ais neighborhOOd
Mr. sNITDIY1R, Mr.. sTAaLNECKRR, AND rHI JET
PERSON CLUB.
Mr.. Smithmeyer was recalled, and admitted that
he had seconded Stahlnecker's application for
membership in the Jefferson club, and that his
ap J.icatiOn had been passed upon by Messrs.
McIntyre and Williams This was after the con-
versattons he had had with Stahlnecker and after
the persons named had been told OF them. This
closed the case for the prosecution.
TESTIMONY Fob THE DRFRNsR.
The defense then opened formally. Mr.. Fay, Of
the nrm OF Mcdonald, Bright 4 Fay, was put on
the stand. He was asked BY Judge Wilson to state
what The situation as TO the cement was when
Mr.. Stanlnecker was asked to see Mr.. 6mithmryer.
MI. Coleman objected TO going into the cement
Question. There was some discussion on tnie
point and finally Judge Wilson said that he would
not put witness on the stand.
Mr.. Bright was then called.
Pending his testimony Mr.. Coleman put some
questions to Mr.. Fay. Il
Juige Wilson called attention to the fact that
Mr.. Fay had not testified at all, and that there
was nothing 70 cross-examlne hum on. But Ar
Coleman pereisted In asking In what character NJ
Fay appeared before the committee
NJ. Fay said. al WitneeA
M Coleman wanted 70 know n ho was MOI
present - an attorney.
Mr.. Fay replied that he was not present - q
attorney. He said that he gave Judge wilson a
the Information he could In this ne said he acte<
- friend OF Mr.. Stahlneckera He was not act
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