Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1888-08-25
DISCUSSING THE MESSAGE.
Additional Petnss from YesssrAayss
Debate In the senate.


Debate In the senate.
The debate on the Presidents message in the
Senate yesterday afternoon was continued, after
TIE Stars report closed until quite lats
Amer discussing the subject OF the statute OF
1873 and OF the treaty ARTICLES bearing on the
question OF transportation In bond between the
United states and Canada Mr.. Morgan declared
that the President found himself confronted with
that act Of Congress las 70 transportation In oond
which had not been modifed or referred 10 In the
act OF lss7-the retaliation act. II had been
asked BY Mr.. Hoar why the President had not
brought up that subject before. He (Nr. Morgan)
asked why Congress had not brought &c up:
BsrrxE 10 HAVE HAD AN ArI-EnHAcrSo TREATY.
Mr. Hale (Rep, Me) asked Nj Morgan whether,
In view OF the Presidents message, be did not be-
eve that it would have been better, In laying the
keel OF the recent negotiations TO have included
grievous In the eyes OF the PRESIDENT Would IL
treaty.
treaty" would include the Behnng sea nsheries.
the Monroe doctrine. the Clayton-Bulwer treaty,
and quite numb Of mattsrA
in our relations with Canada, why not embrace
snemi Why not make treaty which should set
We al OF these thingS ana not make treaty and
President dealing with subject malIers which
nave no more TO 40 with the treaty than with the
louepSn0c0ceI
Mr.. Morsan-l could give several answers to
soo' question. The nrst answer Is that they are
not hlndred subjects They are not correlated
Lne PRESIDENT says that he nnds q statute In the
way Of retahstion-ihe statute OF LIST March,
lesS-ano ne comes to Congress aud says: Il am
vi ing and anxious 70 do all that can 20 redress
sne wrongs OF the American people gainst Cana
dian interference, but md this statute barring
~ ny way; ! desire 70 exclude from the right
ducts OF Canada and goods imported by her
.rom foreign COUNTRIES and amounting, 10
tne iast AK years. 70 Lear saooo,o0o. I desire TO
stop this, II 1 am under compu.sion TO relaliate,
because thus tue heavy part OF the bow will fall
on Inc people Of Canada, and not on my own peo-
pie" And The President asks Congress 70 declare
whether he has rig nj TO DO thai under the law
as stands. II was a Congressional declaration
WHICH put the dinculty In MS path, and he has
rlSnt 70 come 10 Congress and Ask to have IL re-
moved. he says: Remove that diniculty II you
want retaliation, anu will prohibit the passage
OF goods between the United States and Canada ON
these railroads" But tnal is not the thing which
senators on The other side want TO nave done The
Strand Trunk and other connecting rail~ are val
uaoie property; tney are money shaking institu-
Tons hey are OF great convenience 10 the eastern
part of the country. The railroads have been the
pets OF the republican senators am now quite
satisfied that We give the President tne
power TO prohibit the passage OF goods In
bond free OF duty, over these Railroads, We
VIII touch the whole subject right at the core; ana
then two sets VI people Will be convinced-Jhe
| railroad owners and managers In New England,
and the Canadians. Then We VIII have peace.
linen we WILL have agreement. ana ~ viii make no
oiuerence whether Cleveland or Harrison be
elected But you compel the President 10 retail
| late, and yet you take good care that certain OF
your great and over-mastering interests shall not
| De interfered with, AMI your Candidate Tor the
vice.pres;dency Is director In one OF these rail-
Mr.. Frye {rep.. Me) Informed Mr. Morgan that
Mr. Morton had some time ago resigned MS posi-
ton as a railroad director.
Mr.. Morgan intlmaied that the nominal Date OF
inc resignaslon mlght not be the actual one. IL
might nave been antedaled.
Mr.. Edmunds resented that implication, and said
Morton lOnOra lp IN M nj akt..i
no tricks Oh the people OF the United states any
body else. He asked Mr.. Morgan whether he
OF 1871 was still In Iorce.
MI Morgan-No, think II is not In force.
THE MESSAGE A DESPERATE ExPEpIEST
Mr. Hale characterized the Presidents message
as a desperate expedent TO recover lost ground,
| and confession that the attitude taken by him
and his Administration, as TO the treaty, was an
attitude that had no account OF force In IT, Moth
Ing had shown the wisdom and patriotism OF the
course taken by republican senators In rejecting
the treaty a. worthless 50 Clearly this message.
| Why, he asked had the President waited until
now 10 call attention 10 the matter or tolls on
Canadian canals and other matters OF Injustice 10
Americans? twas desperate attempt on the
part OF the President 10 recover lost ground IL
Was because he and his Administrator ielt that
they mad been ulscredlted In connection with the
| treaty. The American people would understand
that. With the In nrmity which characterized
the Administration, with the lack OF be-
ing able 70 do anything In the direc-
| uon or American interests which characterized
| II, the President did not now proyo,e 10
| 90 anything. Alter having failed In the treaty
| the President found iault with the statute OF
retaliation, and III that IL as not enough. thai
there was not power enough given 10 him TO
| retaliate against Can adam aggression And vet
| MS Secretary Of tue Treasury has found power
| enough IN the statutes 10 give TO BRUSH steam
| ships and the Canadian Pacific Railway permission
70 transport goods from one American port (san
tranciSco) TO another American port AMI thence 10
the terminus OF that railway. He held that under
the retaliation act The President had ample bower
| IL was an act that WAS Understanding and
arther-extensive Ihan any acL that had ever been
Called upon TO be put In exercise by an admins
tratlon- II the grievances recited existed 10 w
they had existed for the last two years and it did
not lie Ia the power Of the President TO attempt
here TO recover fallen fortunes and TO set back the
TIDE that was running against him. The American
people would see through that
Mr.. Vest dem, Mo.)-Do understand the Sen
ator now 10 assert that under the act OF lSs7
the President had a RI. lat TO reLaliate as TO any,
thing except fishing vessels?
Mr.. Hale-l would be willing to wait and see
| whether the President would execute thII acI
even on the narrow basis that The Senator has
Mr. vest-lhat is a mere evasion. The sens,or
arrdlgns the President very distinctly. because
with the power In his hands he has not exerteo mi
MI Hale arraign the President because, for
the nrst time after ns treaty has been rejected he
comes IN here aud u ikes known these grievances
which have been existing for years. Ii he has not
The power, then there IS no sense ia his having
valued for US TO give him more power: and there
Is no sense In the Presi now alter he has been
defeated and, as The English papers say, his 40
| treaty, Ia his coming in and making this demand
He mad no doubt an act would b. PASSED giyIng
Inc President more power; Out, he SAID, The Pre,i-
dent already had powers, which, IL exercised would
al once bring Canada To Uerms-powers that wouIa
at once oring the matter TO q head and let TIE
country know where II stands.
MOVE TO REGAIN LOST GROUND.
Mr.. Sherman (kep., o. confessed that the mes
sage OF the President gave him more pleasure
than he usually derived from messages coming
from that high authority, but thought las the SEN
ator from Maine, MI. Hale, did that it was move
ment 70 regain lost ground. II the President had
based his treaty on the principles LAID down In his
message, there would have been no difficulty about
The treaty. and 1t would have peen ratified by an
unanimous vote, because the message did assert
the rights OF American citizens Inc princinal
point made by the President had been whether
the twenty-ninth article OF the treaty had been
abrogated by the notice given In 1858 and by the
subsequent action OF Congress The Presidents
arguments on that point appear plausible; but II
seemed that the commerce committee on the re- a H.
alton Till had taken different view But wheIher
that article was abrogated or not the power of
the President under existing law was ainple ana
full The message OF The President was SIN thar
he WAS willing " stand with the senate Ia TIE no.
bition taken by H. Mr.. Sherman proceeded 10
speak OF the
DISSEMINATING TOLLS on CANADIAN CANALS
and SAID they ought not TO be submitted to.
Reciprocal rights ought 70 be insisted upon. The
matter OF sending goods through Canada to Port
land was matter OF Importance, and beneficial
TO the people OF both countries and IL conducted
iairiy and properly, there could be no complaint
about II he proceeded TO speak OF the financial
policy OF the Administration, and said that OF an
The financial management he had read OF IN story
n "A q af n