St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-12-08
He Gives Some Pointers About
the Work of the Lobby
lists Opposed.
Will Report a Bill Without
the Useless Submission
Requirement.
The States Are Coming Right
Away, and Will Make the
Redskins Hustle.

WASHINGTON, Dec. 7.-"Charmain
Peel tells me that he will bring in and
press for passage this winter bill for
the opening of the Sioux reservation
without the submission clause" said
Judge Offenbacher, of Deadwood, this
evening.
will his bill differ materially from
the one which was passed at the last
session."
sit will in many particulars. In the
first place the new bill will give the In
dams 81 per acre, instead of so cents. as
provided in the last bill. That will give
them S11,00O,0OO for their lands. Of
course, that is large sum, but when
we think of the fact that this govern
ment receives nearly million and
half of money every day, from customs
and internal revenue, it will only take
the receipts of eleven days to pay for
that immense tract of splendid country.
1t will be cheap, very cheap"
''DO you think the president will APP
prove such bill?"
II believe he would have approved
just such bill during the last session,
if it had been presented to him for his
signature. The president is remarkably
well
POSTED CONCERNING DAKOTA
and her necessities. He is good friend
of Dakota, and of all the territories,
notwithstanding all that has been said
against him because of his appointments
to Office out there"
But will there be submission
clause in the new bill?'
II do not think there will be. In fact.
there is no necessity for it, and it should
not have been in the last bill. 1t is not
constitutional, nor legal, nor right. In
1871 the United States supreme court
decided that the Indians are the wards
of the nation, and no treaties can be
made with them. They have posses
sorry right in the lands and that is all.
The court decided that their lands and
chattels are subject to congressional ac-
ton at any time. 1t is presumed that
such congressional action will be hu-
name and kind, but even that is not
necessary"
Then why was the submission clause
made part of the last bill?"
'tSolely because the long haired
AGENTS OF THE sQUAwMEN
and half-breeds insisted upon it. Nay,
more, there was lobby here which in
sisted upon it, and worked it wisely and
shrewdly.
''Why, there was no such lobby here
last winter"
But wasn't there, though? guess
there was. | remember talking with
John King and the rest about it, and
they laughed at me. They said that
the only opposition that could possibly
arise would come from the railroads,
and there were no railroad representa-
tives here at all. That was the way
they looked at it,
but, was there railroad lobby
here?'
mot the ordinary kind. 1t would
have cost great many times 10000 to
have created and maintained lobby
which could have defeated bill last
year. 1t would only take about $1,000
to defeat the effort TO secure the con-
sent of the Indians. Hence, the lobby
secured the insertion of that clause,
'for humane reasons and that was all
that they wanted"
"Do you really believe that the rail-
road lobby did that?'
II know it, man. know it. [ can't
tell you particulars, at present, but l
know that that was the scheme. Now,
as a matter of fact, Mr.. Dawes was in
the house and voted for the bill which
opened all the country from the Rockies
to the 102d parallel, in ~, and the gov
eminent never asked the consent of the
Indians at all. Mr.. Dawes knows that
the submission clause is unnecessary,
but
THE GOODY GOODIES
got after him, and they wheedled him
into demanding that that clause be in
serted, and he consented. But he
knows better. Why, Red Cloud told
me at the time that none of his tribe
would have consented to that act The
MI oh N
and the Indians knew it. Red Cloud
told me that for a thousand moons his
people had been gathering gold there,
for beads and other ornaments, and
they all knew that the land was exceed
ingly valuable. If their consent had
been asked. they would have simply
sneered at any offer for those lands.
But they we're
SIMPLY DRIVEN OUT
by congressional enactment, and they
submitted gracefully. If the Sioux reser-
walton is opened by the passage of such
a bill as Chairman Peel now has in
preparation. the Indians will never
whimper. They will simply take their
S11,000,000 and be satisfied and thank
the Lord for small fayors thankfully re-
eeived."
'Euppose that Senator Dawes insists
again this winter upon clause submit
ting this matter again to the Indians at
81 per acre. Will it pass'"
II don't know about that. do know
that any bill which submits this to the
Indians might as well not be passed. 1t
will be utterly useless. The Indians
will not consent to anything. They
will Immediately be seen by the
RAILROAD OPPONENTS
of the matter, and that will settle it. If
the government offers to give them 81
or So per acre, and submits it to their
Judgment, they will not see the benefit
of the S22,0O0,000 OF $55,000,0G0 in the
BUSH They can be bought off to OPP
pose the measure by a paltry 0,o00. or
possibly S25,000 lin the hand.' They
can't see far beyond their noses in such
matters. They prefer money and trink-
cts in sight. The best and shrewdestof
their head men and chiefs can be han
died cheaper by a lobby out there than
it would cost to obstruct legislation
here"
''Why didn't you tell the Dakota peo-
ple about this last winter when the bill
was going through"
Il tried to do so. but they were all so
anxious for bill, any kind of bill,
that they thought me
AN OLD CROAKER.
They knew of my experience with the
Indians: knew that knew Sioux and
his instincts as we'll as | do my horse,
but they wouldn't hearken to anything
of this sort. don't know but they were
right, after ALL They wanted the prec-
edent of the passage OF bill, even if it