The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1888-04-26
LORD CHURCHILES WARNING
A Debate in the English Commons on the
Irish County-GoVernment Bill.
Lord Churchill Warns the Tories that They
Must Keep Their Pledges or Abandon Power
Frederick Demands Beef and Beer.

LosDoN, April 25.-In the House of Com
mons, to-day. Mr.. j. L. Carew, Nationalist moved
the second reading of the fish county-govern-
ment bill He urged that public opinion was at
the back of the promoters of the bill. The
present system was landlord system and in
the landlords interest. Tho grand juries nomi-
mated by the high sheriff were a select circle.
acting for themselves. The principle of the bill
was to give the people control of strictly local
affairs through directly elected councils.
Sir Charles Lewis, Conservative member for
North Antrim, and others. contended that the
bill was incorrectly framed, and that it had been
introduced at q wrong time. The councils pro-
posed, they said, were not likely to lead to good
results.
Mr. Gladstone said that. to DO Ireland justice,
theB proper mode Of amending public business
was 10 commence, not with local but with central
institutions The government should not plead
that the state of ireland was than it
at the last election; yet they had withdrawn
their promises, and declared that until Ireland
foregoes her natural aspirations, and withdraws
her claims TO central authority at Dublin, no
local government bill will be presented tc the
House. "Any man." said Mr.. Gladstone, who
refuses to vote for this bill becomes party to
that declaration"
Mr.. Balfour said the debate had turned prin-
cpai1y upon the working of the present local in
situations. Every one knew that the local gov
eminent OF ireland was bad exactly in the pro-
portion that the ex oficio element was excluded
from it. fCries of mo-" no." from the Par
nellites and cheers from the government
benches.1 The deterioration in local manage
ment in Ireland was due to the ex oficio yield
ing of elected members to the demands of con-
stituents owing TO the tyranny Of the league
Politics in Ireland were different from politics
in England. AS long the present acute con-
troversy existed, Parliament could not extend
local government to Ireland But he believed
the present condition of social warfare could
not continue. and when there was an equality of
conditions he would be one of the frat to carry
ont what was desired. [Cheers
Lord Randolph Churchill said that the gov
eminent. in 1885, pledged themselves to extend
to Ireland the same amount Of local liberty
That pledge was the foundation of the Unionist
party and the only platform upon which they
could resist repeal If the government relied
merely upon their executive powers and if they
were going to preach that the Irish must be
looked upon as inferior, they might for time
hold that position. but only for a very short
time. [Parnellte cheersl. There not suf6-
cient Interpretation of the governments policy. If
Ireland had to wait In the hands of the execu
tive, the Conservatives must take care that they
did not expose themselves to well-directsd
Indictment of reaction.
Mr.. Chamberlain said that. without adopting
the view that nothing should be done within
reasonable period. he Was opposed to the bill
because the English and Irish local governments
questions could not be dealt with in the same
session.
The bill was reiectsd-2S2 to 1876.
Lord Randolph Churchilrs speech created
sensation, and was matter Of surprise to MEM
bers of all parties. It is admitted that the pro-
ceedings of the week in Parliament have been
damaging to the government. When the divis-
ion taken Mr.. Carew's motion Lord
Randolph Churchill and several Conservatives
and Unionists left the House, in order to avoid.
voting Two Unionists supported the BILL to-
gsther with Mr.. Gladstone and his followers.
The government had the support of Lord Hart
ington. Mr.. Chamberlain and four Unionists