The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1888-04-25


stated that Mr.. Haley was indebted
to him, but he was not sure of the
amount, until he examined the
books. Mr.. Luce stated that as
Haley had an account with him, that
he (IIaley) should get an order
from Canavarro on the Custom
House, for the withdrawal of liquor.
He proposed that Haley should bring
an order from Canavarro for 5000,
and the examination brought out
this explanation, that Haley should
secure Canavarro's signature to an
order, and that he (Mr. Luce)
should fill in the order for liquor,
the duties on which should be 5000,
and having so filed the order present
the same to the Custom House and
draw the liquors without payment of
duty: to use Canavarros's name to
obtain n remission of duties, and Il
portion of the duties so RENTED
should he credited to Mr.. Haley.
1t was not made entirely clear to
me what amount should be credited
to Haley at that time. Mr.. Luce
stated that in accordance with that
agreement he gave Haley n blank
form, and that Haley some time
afterward, returned the form TO him
with Canavarro's Endorsement on it.
Mr.. Luce was not positive whether
ii was that same day or the next that
it was handed to him. After Haley
brought the paper back, Mr.. Luce
filled it in with the list of liquors
and signed it with his name. / don't
recollect who presented the order
Mt the Custom House, but Mr..
Luce stated that he drew the liquors
on it. The duties on the liquors
so drawn were S5O1.15. The dis
parity between $500 and S501.15 was
caused by the class of liquors. The
order was filed in as near as posi-
bic to make $500 duties. Having
secured these liquors he credited the
account of Haley with q certain
amount and credited the balance to
Canavarro. Mr.. Luce would not
be positive as to the amount of those
respective credits but after some de-
liberation he settled upon $500 to
Haley and 5000 to Canavarro. He
was not sure but thought those were
the amounts. | examined him at
some length in regard to Haleys
Indebtedness, and my recollection is
distinct that he stated that Haley
was then indebted to him, but to
what amount he would not under
take to say without referring to his
books. l put it to him several ways
and he was not sure how the balance
was without reference to books. He
stated that he had no account with
Canavarro, but had sent liquor sew
eral times to the Hawaiian Stables
for Canavarro, but he charged the
liquors to Haley, as Haley had or
dered them. He said that he had
no knowledge of Canavarro receiving
that liquor; only what Haley told
him.
Mr.. Luce did not explain why he
credited Canavarro with this amount
although pressed to do so. H
stated that that credit was still
standing on the books, although h
had had no dealings with Canavarr
before or since. He stated that tn
amount was not in the ledger, bu
was kept in some peculiar way, ,whicl
| did not understand.
The interview became quite warm
and l asked him if he was using
Canavarro's name to pay Jacl
Haley's whiskey bills.
| do not recollect that he said yes
but he did not deny it. He di,
assent that he avoided the paymen
of duties, which had been credite,
to Haley to pay his liquor bill. II
stated distinctly, that what wa
drawn went into the general stock o
his store, and that no portion of
went to Mr.. Canavarro, and no POI
, tion went to Haley, on that trans
action at least. 1t went into hi
) stock, and customers purchased il
He concluded that at the time of til
: withdrawal of the liquor he did no
suppose that any portion Of th
. liquor was for Mr.. Canavarro's use
t He stated that such a course wa
! customary. He had done the sam
5 thing when with Macfarlane.
: think he used the expression "W
: all do it," He said that he depend
| ed upon Haley, and believed he wa
) telling the truth, and stated that
would not have taken the part h
did, had he known Mr.. Canavarr
did not know what was being done
He stated that he saw Mr.. Can;
e varro's signature, but did not sc
t any erasure, nor any limitation O
S the order. We claim that the or
e ginal order called for 81 cask,
gallons of wine, for my use," I'll
words "27 gallons of wine' wei
e chased, but ''for my use" remained
: He stated with some warmth that |
did not see the erasure, and that
had no knowledge of the endors
: ment being changed. The intervie
+. was long. The counsel made argl
S ments here and there, and | ha,
r quoted Mr.. Luce's exact word
: There were a good many epithe
t banded about. / believe | hay
/ stated all of any consequence thi
1 happened at that interview. The,