New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-05-05


call in question the conclusions OF our BishoTs, no
said not their motives. which we judge in al love
ana nn,oSs drectly from its Bishops. and those
opinions come or ce.hedra . :. . -.
ana sS he wess on them By
necessary implication and should oiiow inc SANE
With Hs Rs wH e nS that
sought admission TO the General Conference ara his
10 Scs% Children
unto me y Uaughter) When was boy, this rhyme
was familiar one
When you sec him in the sea
But when you see him in the bay,
A bay horse then IL he"
Everywhere but in the General raj Conference 1 %sab
parody the rhyme In this wayi
"a woman Is O layman
Wherever she may be;
But in General Conference
A lay-woman is she.'"
GLOWING ARGUMENT FOR THE REPORT
DR. Frank NJ Bristol, of tho Rock River Conference,
who Is pastor of Grace Church, Chicago, madc glow
ing and effective argument in favor OF adopting tho re-
port. He said in part
We have to come TO the General Conference to hear
Methodist defended and eulogized- 1 know not
they women in Kansas Iowa. but In LIMOS
we hold them in all reverence and high esteem To
ulogize would be to paint the lily and TO perfume
the rose. have yet able TO reach that SUBJ
nated aerated condition in which can consider the
parallel between and sawmills In Massachusetts,
indicated In Dr. Hamlt0ns address yesefday We haNe
been warned that is subtle suggestion In the
Bishops Address have doubt OF it, and have no
doubt subtle inany Is the only quality that Should Dc
allowed appear In quadrennol address, The question
is OF excluding women but OF including then
Is possible that Dr. Hamilton does not know that the
Church and the constitution die and that 1t is not
necessary resurrection Of the dead in order to
question Of the intent OF this enacnent con-
corning aymen Again. to say that we are the Chureh
Is to attempt to exercise despotic power we cannot
a.rh from he La
members Of the Church their power without apphg Inc
very foundations Of the Church.
Sons say why not submit this question TO the Church
Others answer that the admission of women would be
defeated II such O reference made. But am one
Of those who just this thing done expect 10 see
women become members Of a General Conference
yield to meme In admiration OF the high qualities ana
atanmens distinguished lady who was elected as
member Of my delegation but do not want W
see any woman admitted until her eligibility is guaran
teed This Conference cannot give the guarantee
for II it has power interpret the women in the next
General Conference will equal power to guarantee
them out The question should be referred 10 the Annual
Conferences.
Dr. Hamilton rose to allege that he had been square
ly misrepreSented by DR.. Bristol, ana maze SNORT
explanation of the words really used by him on the
previous day.
Alden speare, lay delegate, said in part
1 favor the amendment with all my powers, with all
my thoughts. ] believe in women, as believe in my
mother my wife, my sister, but don't want my wife
or anybody eses wife here unless she comes here legally
and sQuarely.
louis r. Fqske of Michigan the president Of Albion
College appeaes to politics find instances Of 1ust-
able progress The election Of tho President he SAID
lece Should have put James G. Blaine Mr. st. John
into the Presidential chair or ANYBODY ose on ho luce
that the result would havo been civil all over
this country
LIVELY sALIAEs IN THE DEBATE
From this point to The hour for adjournment the
time of the Conference spent in lively and pleas
ant manner by the secularke scene that has yet
Interrupted gravity and dccorum Of the Conference
Dr. Buckley must bear the direct responsibility OF tho
interiude though primarily 1t was TO be traced 10 Gov
ernor Lounsbury, of Connecticut. When Dr. kiske
finished speaking the Governor got the floor and sug
gested the advsabty of limiting the debate and having
1t concluded say at noon Monday. The reason he
urged was that full vote desirable, and that
would be moro certain If the matter were not nnduly
ppsTiers said he but there arc / know still many
woo desire to DO heard upon this allnportant ques
ton" He then put his suggestion In tho form Oh
Dr. Buckley did not think that the day and the hour
were the bcst that could be selected dough ne agfeeo
was inds putable Said he AT previous conferences
questions have been debated aa hs oDa an
son out 900 members only 263 were in their seats
at tho vote and there was actually doubt as to
MINI 1s5s h D n:Asy to tell
in the middle of debate, 1t required general consent
In order to be entertained. 49,. u,.u
he spoke" returned DR.. Buckley. The chairman ex,
planned that the gson vas new o 70 hon. ana h' T ha
his colleagues. Is there general consent to the
motionl" he asked.
no." shouted several members.
"po you consent, pr Buckley e. u,,. .o,
aNo' said pr Buckley decline to give my con-
tom AS might have been expected; this announce
e s ssS baS in r to %o an s
tho Speakers eye, There was an absolute hush OF
which 6SEe b BY naon o
consultation with Dr. Buckley and Dr. Hamilton ana
acoorrfrect,s calmly replied Dr. Buckley, who was
now making his way OCT TO tho aisle. IN order 10
the place that had e as e snS p Ing
common feeling. Dr. W. N. McElroy, OF Illinois, OBJ
jeced He dld not think It fair that DR. Buckley
the main question,
DR.. Buckley-But not on the amendment,
The chairman-An amendment has been offered and he
has q right to speak.
POINTS OF ORDER RAISED.
Dr. Hamilton next tried to get at the defects from
the standard of Lounsbury. He said:
DR.. Buckley has spoken that was raised BIZ
common consent has advantage OF his priv
lege to get the noor
"Ponts Of ORDER dottlng In from various points
If the house Meanwhile DIR. Buckley, with bis serenity
yet unrulied, had attained the goal he had been
making for. He arrived at the end of the orchestra
aisle. and pointing TO the wooden box used by the
speakers Of small physical stature he said in aside
"Fut down that block please. Let them find out what
Dr. swindelis thought he had found dart that
would pierce between the joints of the champions har
ness and he hurled IT, DR. Buckney had announced that
he intended to speak on the main question and had
got tho floor that understanding.
The Observation-Disclosures his intention was he is
the order, and shall see when he proceeds
whether he has light to speak. Dr. Buckley
But there was no inclination on the part of the
other members to give way, and a storm Of angry
voices protested. Dr. Flood, who was sitting just
beside the position held by Or. Buckley made quiet
remark 10 him. Dr. Buckley rctorted tarty Il know
my own business. sir know what I'm about'
Tho chairman next said that the secretary. DR..
Monroe. was DESTROYS OF making q statement before
DR.. Buckley spoke. Would Dr.. Buckley allow that
statement TO be made?
Dr. Buckey~I will not, sir
The din resumed, and in q constant rap-raprap-
rap the chairmans gavel kept time 70 the chorus OF
protests, questions and rparee Dr, Buckley sat
down the orchestra Partition with his BACK turned
20 the stage waiting for the clouds to roll by
DR. BUCKLEY REFUSES TO YIELD.
point of order tina. Dr. Buckley had got the floor
zrhnn he uras siandinr AWAY from his own seat