Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1888-08-03
FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
TIE TrsEvsr BREACH or PRIVILEGE
OF THg HoUsE.
chsrgss ARairst the Parnsilites The hea
Intian who Danced Around BIS VIC
tim"-Ineuiry Invited.
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Replying 10 Mr.. Sexton, Mr.. Gosthen sald no
did rot know whether or NOT Hr. smith sent
n Tie reporters gallery the manuscript Win
reference 10 the commission bill when was
read IN the House on July I.tb, but that
The words "and other persons" did mol az
pear in H..
Mr. Iabouchcre called the attention oil the
House to the breach % privilege % when
The fines was guilty today IN chsrPing the
Psrnellites. with trying 10 drown 'he com
tnis.fon bill with 1nod Of bscseu9rdism
uupsrslleled in history. II deplo cd tue eir-
~nf.siance that Nessrs Gladstone aud Enr.
court completed the ioui-mouthed oraiory OF
their Irish allies.
Mr.. Gaschen c0ncurred in the charge that
a breach Of privilege bad been COMMITTED py
the 1,fqcs and said tb,t there was no u-e 10
mitigate The fact by saving strong language
had been used by the ParDeliites against tOe
Times under protection 81 privilege. bul
{, the House followed precedeDts II would
not pow deal With Tie irrach OF privilege,
iaIt would proceed with the business OF the
aay. Nf. GO.chon accordingly made mo-
ton 10 tbai effect.
MIR. G.adstone secondcd II, and advised Mr,
Iabouchere 10 Withdraw The question OF pri-
yilege, 20 which be (Mr. Labouc1erel agTeeu.
MIR. Gladstone desired. be ssid. 20 return
good for evil 70 not pressing the question
presebt, but MIR. Sexton was less concihltoTN
and said that be despisea 10 commend paw
masters and acconphcCs Of forgery. Tar
Nellie cheers
Sir. Coschen then moved that the debate
proceed on the bin to investigate the charges
against The Parneldtcs II 10 were still under
discussion at midnight.
To this the llou.e agreed, He next moved
that the chairman shall have power 1T /
O'Clock in the morning 10 put remaining
charges.
Nr. Reid appealed to the Government to
respect the right Of The minority to obtain
iull discussion OF the obnoxious clauses and
hoped that they would not close the debate
until tue final clause had been discussed,
which was 10 eXOnerato the Tunes from an
action for ibel.
Mr. Ilealy said that the motion was an
other proof that the Conservatives were
preulred to treat The Parnelites IN The sa1ie
manner rs the red Indian who danced
around his victim at the stake.
Mr.. HarcOurt said the motion was without
the sliehte.t reason 10 justify II. The bill
was 81 such importance that it ought to be
adequately discussed. The GOvetnment
ne said. did not want further discussion,
Is the effect upon the country would be
unfavorahle to them. They therefore abused
their rights as amaiorily ~ order 70 gag their
political opponents.
Mr.. T. L. O'C0nnor said that the pleasure
Of the debate a. proposed amounted to de-
cree that the most important proposals in tbe
BIN must be passed without discussion. II
was an act of brute violence on the part oil
the Government
sir Charles Leads Conservative con-
4 A. Al. .,f.- ~ Borpall
iustided the motion. Their style OF discus
sion disgrlccd Parliament and the country.
Mr.. Timothy llealy moved 10 smend the
motion by inserting the words ali the chair.
man think" thus leaving 10 the discretion OF
he Chair the application OF the closure rule.
Mr.. Balfour refused 10 accept the ameud-
mcnt, saving that the chairman ought not 10
be burdcned with such "a responsibility.
Sir Lionel Piayfair niberaD declared that
the motion was the most unfortunate prpce>
dent that the Government could set. such
a closure had hitherto heen unhtard 81.
Mr.. Healy's amendment was reiected-2Sj
to 237.
Mr.. Justin Mccarthy moved an amend
ment extending the inquiry 10 the circum-
stances under which the charges were origi-
nally made and published by the ines.
Mr. Matthews, Home secretary, held that
the amendment was needless.
Mr. Anderson (LiberaD claimed that 1t was
important TO know how many forged letters
the Times had, and how they had been OBJ
tanned.
Mr.. Sexton said that the Parnellites invited
the fullest inquiry into the remotest facts
connected with "Parnelllsm and Crime
II ii was conducted by reasonable mode Of
procedure. II was important TO find the
under.mOjive with which the forged letters
were written.
Mr.. Hul (Conseryative) said that unless
a good account could be given Of how the
Times came TO possess the letters, or the
person could I've produced who sold or gave
them, and would be able 10 stand an eXaml-
nation % 10 how he got them, tine judges
would not accept the letters as genuine.
rliear Hear! Rats y
The amendment was defeated -1G2 10 l2S.
Mr.. Labouchere moved that the letters be
inquired into and reported upon before other
matters He did not think that any member
Of the Government was so vile and base
rlsnghterl as to refuse this reasonable con-
cession. II the Government did refuse II be
would recommend Mr.. Psrnell 10 wash his
hands OF the commission and sue the Times
for libel solely on the letters.
The SollcitOT-G said that The letters
were not charges, but only the evidences Of
charges against Mr.. Parnell. lie admitted
that the letters were extremely important,
and said that without doubt the commission
would early inquire into their authenticity.
TIE commission, however, must not be fet-
tered, and therefore the Government could
not accept the amendment.
After another acrimonious debate Mr.. La
bouchere's amendment was defeated-2ol to
a03.
Mr.. Healv moved to add a proylso to the
effect thst the commissioners should make
separate report IN regard to the charges
against each individual member where de-
cisiOns are adverse. He declared that he did
not trust the commission, either trinity or
unity. rLaughlerl In fact he would trust
no commission selected by the Tory Lord
Chancellor to blacken the characters OF the
Irish members.
The Home Secretary said that no Govern
ment with the slightest self-respect would
accept such an amendment.
Mr.. Pamell desired 10 SAY a few words.
10 was vain 20 deny that he approached the
committee with the ranking sense Of inius'
tice He did not object Ia the principle OF
the commission in rs inception, and would
not have complained OF The extension OF its
scope 10 political organization II q fair hear.
ing and notice OF the charges against them
rad been secured. But that was not the case.
They were approaching the inquiry shaped
by superior force, by party opposite. and
without a chance Of stating their views with
the fullness which the gravity OF the case re-
qulFsd. There were men now In London
who. he believed, II placed 10 the witness
box, would be forced 10 admit that they were
guilty OF forgery.
Amendments 10 secure the attendance OF
these persons and insure their punishment VI
tncy lied 10 escape the jurisdiction OF the
commission were excluded. What would
the forsers care for the action OF the Govern
ment il, BY stepping across the channel dus
ring the inquiry, they could draw an lmpene-
trsble veil over the origin OF the lettersy The
Irish members were entitled 10 such a
hearing as Parliament bad never yet denied
70 individuals, especially when they con-
sented 70 an Unconstitutional Inquiry.
He believed that his friends would
come out OF that scrutiny untarnished
and triumphant, but majority OF the
members would have the furnished ira
dItlons Of the House by refusing the
IRISH members the right OF assisting IN
passing the most important measure ever de-
vised for obtaining Judgment upon men on
whom the Interests OF a nation which
they represented were absolutely depend
emf. lCheers.]
Ueaiy's amendment was defeated--263 TO