New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-08-03
CRUSHED BY BRUTE FORCE.
NO MERCY FOR THE IRISH LEADER.
THE GOVERNMENT RELENTLEssLY KILLS
ALL AMENDMENTS TO THE COMMISSION

London, Aug I'm reply to Mr. Healy IN the Com
mons Mr.. Coschen said that Mr.. W. H. smith
had not interviewed the Editor Of The Times
that he had not him, and that he had held no
commune ations with him regarding the Commission
In replying to Mr.. Sexton, Mr.. Goschen said that he
did not know whether not Mr.. Smith sent to the
reporters gallery the manuscript Of the Commission
bill which read IN the House July L. and
that the words and other persons did not appear
| in IL.
Mr.. Labouchere called the attention Of the House
to the breach of privilege of which The Times to-day
was guilty in charging the Parneies with trying TO
drown the Commission bill with a flood Of black
guardism unparalleled in the history OF Parliament
1t dcpored the circumstance that Mr. Gladstone and
Sir William HarcOurt completed the fOu[mouthco
oratory of their Irish allies.
Mr.. Coschen concurred in the charge that breach
Of privilege had been committed by The Times and
there was no TO mitigate the fact by saying tha'
strong language had been used by the Psrnelites
against The Times" under the protection of privilege
But the House followed precedents It would not now
deal with the breach Of privilege, but would proceed
with the business OF the day Mr. Goschen accordingly
made motion to that effect. Mr.. Gladstone seconded
ii and advised Mr. Labouchere to withdraw the ques-
ton of privilege to which Mr.. Labouchere agreed Mr.
Gladstone desired, he said TO return good for evil
in not pressing the question present But Mr.
Sexton conciliatory said that he despsed
to commend the paymsstcrs and accompnces Oh
forgery
Mr. Goschen then moved that the debate proceed on
the bill investigate the charges against the Parnel
ties II still under discussion, at midnight To
this the House agreed He next moved that the Chair
man shall have power at O'Clock In the morning 10
put the remaining clauses.
Mr.. Reid appealed to the Government TO respect the
right of the minority to obtain full discussion OF the
obnoxious clauses. and hoped that they would nos
close the debate until the final clause had been dis
cussed which to exonerata :" The Times from
an action for libel
Mr. Healy said the motion another proof that
hs Conservatives were prepared to treat the PaTnees
/ I'm the same the red Indian who danced
around his victim at the stake
Sir William arcourt said that the motion was without
the slightest reason to justify IT. The bill was of
such Importance that II ought TO be adequately dis
cussed. The Government, he said, did not want
further discussion the effect upon the country
would be unfav orable TO them. They therefore abused
their rights maiOrty in order to gag their political
opponents
Mr.. T. P o'Ccnnor said that the closure of debate
! as proposed amounted 10 decree that the most i'm
portant proposals in the bill be passed without
discussion. 1t act OF bruts vlolcnc, on the
part of the Government.
SIR Charles LOWS Conservative contended that the
! obstructive tactics OF the Parneilitcs justified the
motion Their style OF discussion dsgraced Parla-
ment and the country
Mr.. Timothy Hoay moved TO amend the motion by
inserting the words If the Chairman think thus
leaving to the discretion of the Chair the application
OF the closure rule.
Mr.. Bafour refused to accept the amendment saying
that the Chairman ought TO be burlened win such
/ responsibility.
Sir Lyon Psyfar (LlberaD declared that the motion
was the most unfortunate precedent that the Govern
mcn could set such closure had hitherto been un-
! heard OF.
MIR IIealy's amendment rejected-2s5 10 237.
Mr.. Justin Mccarthy moved amendmen extend
/ inrf he TO he -ta
charges were made and originally published by The
Tmcsn
Mr. Matthews, Home Secretary, held that the
amendment needless.
/ Mr.. C. H. Anderson G.iberaD claimed that It was
important to know how many forged letters " The
I Times had and how they had been obtained
! Mr.. sexton SAID thai the PaInelitcs invited the
fullest inquiry into the remOcst tacis cOnhectGd Win
ParnollSm and Crime If It was conducted by
ns M of mo OF Rs Urged %s No.
Mr. stavcey I'LL Qonservat.vel sad that unless
I a good account could be given Of how Tine Times
came to possess the letters person could be pro-
duccd who sold gave them and who would be able 10
stand examination as TO how he got them, the
! judges would accept the letters as genuine
iiTGr The Amendment was defcated-1e2 10 1913.
Mr. Laboucherc moved that The letters be Inquired red
into and reported upon before 9'ner % matters ne a I
vile and base laughter as to refuse this reasonable
| concession. ii tho Government did refuse II he
| would recommend MIR Parnell TO wash his hands OF
the Commission and sue The Tines for libel solely
The soncitorGencral said that tho letters were not
charges, but only evidence of the charges against
Mr.. Parfcll lie admitted that the letters were ex-
trcrnely important and said that without doubt tho
Commission would early inquire Into thelr thehtcy
The Commission. however. must not be fctiered and
therefore the Government could not accept the amend
ment. -,
Sir G. O. Trevcyan supported the amendment. he
said the Solicitor Generals speech Indicated dis
position TO put the letters in tho background as
merely subsidiary. Mr. sexton argued at length IN
support Of the amendment.
Sir William Vernon IarcOurt said that upon no
issue would the judgment o: tho country be more
gladly taken than upon the conduct OF the Govern
Lord harrington incenscd the ParncIitcs by say
inc that he did not intend 10 assist them by talking
against Sir William Vernon Halcour's dragging in his
nam9 as being most bsG Sr ba the ,trrrd o
Them lie objected TO lettering the procedure OF the
Waer Sanndeson was called TO order for declaring
that Hsrcout had maliened the Parnelliies before
The Tines did P'oceedns he sald thaS no2 %na ,1o me
The letters They lnew and everybody knew ihat II
was almost impossible TO Prov 'Is rIeIIite aner cr
Now the murders out.7l
He always looked upon the letters as secondary
Hronca cheers IN inquiry was needed NOT into me
character of Mr.. Parncll alone but into tho whole
party TO whether they were nit 10 DO rulers Oh
Mr.. Healy having spoken, Mr.. Goschen said that the
Government dld noi % deSi 10 oT"S na Sscny % 10 the nn
nerous attacks that had been made ,.a.a o,a %
Mr.. LabOuchcies amendment was ueIca'eu--A0 "
Mr. Parnell desired TO say few words II was was
vain to DENY that he approached the Commission with
a rankIng sense OF Injustice He did not object 10
the principle Of the Commission in It's Inception; ara
would not have complained OF the extension " ~
scope 10 political organization ii fair hearing anu
been secured But that was not the cs>..
There were in London VINO, ne peiioNru; DC at',
Il neccd I'm the witness box. would Lc fOreh 20 lht
thsf fhcv were guilty Of forgery Am'nuneu's W
secure The attendance these persons end insure their
t ,nnn 80 they fed 10 crcape tho Jurisdiction OF
he Commission were excludfd what would the
forgers care for the artion Of the Government i, oy
ste1plnc across the Channe! during the inquiry, hsy
could draw an impenetyabe veil Ger the origin OF the
The parnen tcs having left the House, the chairman
mt tho remaining clauses, which were carried "i'h-
The report stage of the Comm ssion bin was fixed
for Monday next
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