New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-08-16
THAI FAMOUS TALK WITH BRICE.
HENRY wAr1ERsoN SAYS IT'S ALL RIGHT

| AND lie PASSES ROUND \ DISH OF COLD TRUTH
AND PRETTY FABLES ON HIS OWN ACCOUNT
New-York dispatch to The Philadelphia Times tDem.)'
| Aug. 10.
The interview in " The Cincinnati Enquirer" with
Calvin 5 Brce chairman Of the democratic Nsti"nai
Campaign Committee. and which was made me SUD
jcci Of column editorial in The sun, IS SIN ne
cause Of conflicting discussion In poHca clfclts inc
Republicans profess 10 be much delighted with MI
Brce's declarations that something must be done 10
Inspire the Democratic Leaders, ana mat me fTcsleI
! ought to help himself and consolidate his party by
overcoming grievances which some Of the Democratic
other hand, seem to find nothing IN the interview to
| of disposition to take Clcveands reelection for
granted, and that the public revelation Of what Col
most excellent purpose In stirring up me party lead
ers, and perhaps Fastening the writing OF the ITes
dents acceptance OF his nomination
The Enquirer" Is correct in either letter or spirit and
by Colonel William l. Brown, of The Daily News
who, as is well known, is keenly disappointed because
President Cleveland would not violate his Cir service
reform promises and remove Postmaster Pearson, Of
this city and place Colonel Brown IN the position
Those familiar with the facts Of the case and with
some recent private utterngs. know full well that
the Brce interview IS correct In every particular II
and long time Washington correspondent OF The En-
quirer and one of the most accurate and conscien,
its significance, and from feeling that publication
might arouse the leaders Of the Democratic party.
was with Mr.. MacBride in the Fifth Avenue Hotel
to-day when he was accosted by Henry Watter0n.
The interview was naturally made the subject Of dis
ciSSlon, ana Bride asked IL Colonel Bf1cc
Certainly not said the Kentucklan emphaicaly,
how could he and why should he The spirit Of II
was contained In letter which myself wrote to rho
President few days ago and IA which ] asked HIM
whether or not he was with in this campaign. The
DemOcl ATTIC party better organized than I'm
this contest so far as the army is concerned But we
want to know If We have a leader The National
Committee Is actually Issuing 100000 documents
daily and We have the work Of the canvass system
affixed. even in the matter Of the small details TO a
degree which exceh the marvellous methods
81 the company which Mr. Tilden himself directed"
Il Think interrupted Mr. MacBrde " that the pub
LEGATION Of the interview Will do the Democratic party
somo good In fact, the Western press as a whole is
doing better work for Cleveland than the newspapers
Of any other part OF the country
Well said MI WatterSon, rcfectvely. the ticket
Is also receiving excellent support from the press OF
this city. We have very strong combination sup,
IIarpers Weekly" advocating our cause uDsparngly
and with immensely valuable assistance from q" The
World and Sun" Dana 10 be sure. is not for any
one for President bnt he IS for Thurman which is the
Same thing. His kttle slaDs at Cleveland do not In
They may not, OF course be very pleasant to the
President personally, but they don't hurt the cause.
and that is what we must consider and what MI
Cleveland should consider -
But what do you want Mr.. Cleveland TO dos l
Ne want him., said Mr.. watterson energcfcaly,
to give least private assurances TO men who are
and is least aware of the fact that they are WORN
ing for him. believe firmly that the DemoctsMc
victory by simply talking about the persona. popu-
larity Of It's chief candidate There has been so uch
OF that sort or thlns lnAJ Dtll,Nc
thinks that II we were TO close the National head
quarters Tomorrow the canvass would move along
Iust as well and he would be triumphantly cicc'ed
Under these circumstances the party leaders are
naturally apathctic. They want some q suranccs
that their Iabors in Mr.. Clevelands behalf VIII be
apprnc lated. Let him tell where he stands; Is
he with us IN this fight or is he not 49,, =,
MI Watterson was not more speclnc lian ,Ils IN
his explanation OF what the Democratic Leaders
desired the President 10 do The tenor OF his remarks
however and the murmurs about the National head
quarters plainly show that some OF the old-umeIs.
wish TO Shake the President from the position OF
Civil Service reformer which be has occupied WIN
rockllke frmncss. II Is narrated In these clrcieS
10 the President and said: There has got TO DC new
deal If Won ex pect your friends 10 work for YOU
What DO YOU wish p asked Mr.. Cleveland. ,
You must take care Of your friends. tald loe
Maryland Senator. Although yon coua come 70
the assistance OF candidate for rictAuoFncy ID
New-York, you could not help me IN me S'lnnst
fight seen in my State. and IN which had INC
Ncw.York Worldn on my back all the tme, Dut
will let that ke forgotten. but your rlehus must
insist that you creating wrecks along the shores
Of Democracy
At this the President only smiled.
This kind Of talk and the recent newspaper puDI-
cations concerning the probability Of Postmaster PEAR
sons removal clearly shows that studied eHoi' Is
being made 10 force the President 10 gr No son h
ravenOus partisans entrance TO the pubic cfO
Chairman Brce IS 20 National politics ana no mas
permitted himself to listen and be Influenced by some
foolish talk and that is the explanation OF The con
vcrsation which he now denies having engaged IN
But when they bend the sturdy oak in the White
House they VIII know It.
II is not fact generally known that C0onel Brice
and Mr. Cleveland bad never met until aftcr mo
latter's denomination in s.. Louis The railroad mag
nate called upon the President twice and al his
second visit the former surprised when the latter
requested him 10 active management OF the
Presidential campaign.