New-York tribune., 1888-08-25

not quite Just in the Senator to that he had |
been looking TO party considerations in framing tho
bill.
Mr. Morgan replied that there had been a period I
prior to 1854 reaching back to 1918 during when
terrible record of wrong had been made by the Cana
dian authorities, and oftcnmcs by the British Navy
and with tho exception of the cases of the Washing
ton and the Argos which had been arbitrated In |
1853 no redress had been sought for those injuries
and between 1865 and 1871 the troubles which had
been engendered by the treaty OF 1918 had hared up
into bonfire and the whole country had been III
anxiety and distress because of the renewal oil the
troubles. The treaty of 1871 had been framed IN
order that the Republican party might buy Us peace
rather than meet the question face to face and set
tie IT, Canada has been given fishing rights Whlch
did have before and IS, 100000 had been gwen
for the purchase OF peace. All the influence ,hat
could be brought to bear on British and Candadian
cupidty had been used In making the treaty OF lo'l
in order get money from the British Government
TO pay insurance companies He did not wonder
that the Senator from Vermont wanted President
Cleveland TO limit his proclamation of nonntercourse
to cases then lately" occurring. But It would have
been a manly thing II the President had received an
indication of what those cases were and what thcy
meant TO be induced in the words then lately
Mr. Edmunds asserted that the convention OF 1898
had covered every possible wrong Of similar ohar.
acter and that all OF the that could be proved
had been allowed. After the action Of the Com
mission under the treaty of 1853 there had been noth-
ing left that the United States had the slightest
right to claim.
Mr. Morgan replied that the treaty Of 1853 had been
TO settle the damage due by Great Britain to citizens
OF the United States personally. 1t had not taken
into consideration any National question such as inc
dshonor of the flag and the invasion of former treaty
Mr.. Halo asked Mr. Morgan whether in view OF
the Presidents message he did not believe that IL
would have been better, in laying the Keel OF 'n7
recent negotiations, to have included in them inc
subject matters which now seemed so grevous IN
the eyes OF the Prcsdcnt7 Would # not have been
better TO have had an allembracing treaty.
Mr. Morgan replied that an all-embracins treaty
would include the Behring fisheries the Monroe
doctrine, the Clayton Bulwcr treaty, and quite
number Of matters.
Mr. HaIe-And why not1 II these are involved IN
WHY not make a treaty which should settle all oi
these things and not make a treaty and aiiei%ard
dealing with subject matters which have more 70
do with the treaty than with tho Dcclaratsn OF il"
Mr. Morgan-I could give several answers TO your our
question The first anSweT IS thai th.y & ar arc anGs
statute in the way Of retaliaon-the sMtafule M @ o.
March l75-and he comes 10 d. s tSat anu can 10
Canadian intcrfercnce but find this statlte barring
nv way. ! desire To exclude from tn Ileht oi
transit through the United states the produces vi
csdr and goods RrGa ID e G a h % fS ea to
near three hundred million dollars. desire TO stop
thus th- heavy part Of the blow will fall the
people Of canada and not on my own people Ahe a
has the right do that under the Law as It STANDS
/ II was a Congressional declaration which put the
conses e@ss IN and % aE R%d to 1 have IT T Temo7d He
Remove that difficulty II you want retaliation ana ma
| I Will prohibit the passage Of goods between me
| United States and Canada these railroads Bqt
that is not tho thing which senator on me on oer obs %
connecting railways arc valuable property: ihey hey
country The railroads have been the pets Of the
Republican senators. am now quite satisiled tnat
massage of goods in bond free of duty over the
railroads We viii touch the whole subject right at
| vinced-the railroad owners and managers in New
| England and the Canadian Then We Will cIo have
land Harrison be elected But yoH comrel ns the the
to Of yo ,a ana and
shall not be interfered with and your canada,o i1r
| road companies
Mr. Frye informed Mr. Morgan that Mr.. Morton
had some time ago resigned his position as railroad
director
Mr. Morgan intimatcd that tbs nominal date Of
the resignation might not be the actual one. II
might have been antedated.
Mr. Fdmunds resented that Implication, and said
that Mr. Morton was an honorable man and played
no tricks on the people Of the United States or any
body else.
Mr. Halo characterized the Presidents message as
a DESPERATE e1pedient 10 recover lost ground, and
confession that the attitude taken by him and his
Administration as TO the treaty attitude that
had no account or force in II. Nothing had shown
the wisdom and patriotism OF tho course taken by
Republican in rejecting the treaty worth
less so clearly this message. After having failed
in the treaty the President found fault with the statute
OF retaliation and said that there was not power
enough given TO him TO retaate against Canadian as
rrcsson And yet his Secretary Of the Treasury ha'
found power enough IN the statutes 10 give TO British
steamships and the Canadian Pacific Railway per
mission transport goods from one American port
san Francisco 10 another American port, and thence
70 the terminus Of that railway lie held that unde
the retaliation act the President had ample power
1t was an act that further reaching and further
extensive than any act that had ever been cale
upon TO be put in exercise by an Administration.
the grievances r-cted existed now they had cxiste
! for the last two years
Mr vest-Do understand the Senator now t
assert that under the act Of 1857 the President had
right 10 retaate a. TO anything except fishing Vee
Mr. Hale-I would be willing to wait ard Sc
whether the President would execute that act eve
Oh the narrow basis that the senator has stated.
b Mr. Hale in concluding said that he had 10 doul
! an act would be passed giving the President NOR
4 power but he said that the President already ha
powers which II exercised, would at once brin
It Canada terms, powers that would al once brin
o the matter to a head and let the country know whcr
c 1t stands.
J., Mr.. sherman confessed that the message Of th
President gave him pleasure than he usually d'
p rived from messages coming from that high authority
: But he thought that j. was mo mSVement TO- suppl %
= lost ground. II the President had based his treat
y on The principles laid down In his meSsag
II there would have been difficulty about IN
" ,nca.v and II would have been ratified by a unan
" mon, vote because the did assert the righ
"a Of American citizens The principal point made
IS the President had been whether tho AXINth Attic
>, of the treaty had been abrOcatcd By the notice give
in 1883 and by the subsequent action OF Congrre
3 The Presidents arguments on that point appealT
plausible but IL seemed that the Commerce Con
n Inlttee on the Retaliation bill had taken diherel
J" view But. whether that article was abr0gatcd
P not the power of the President under existing law
"a was ample and full The message Of the Prrsidel
g he willing 10 stand with II
" senate I'm the position taken by IT,
i Mr. sherman proceeded TO speak of the discrini
as mating tolls on the Canadian canals, and said hi
~ they ought 10 be snbmtted u. Kecpr0cal n Oh