Los Angeles daily herald., 1888-04-08

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theory?
A.-Yes. / had q conversation
with Hattie before the trunks came,
or before Fitch, Minnie or Jeffreys
came. l was alone when l inter-
viewed Hattie. Did not hear any one
in the front office. did not tell any
of the officers that che had to tell me
all. l did not say anything to her
that l believed her Innocent and if
she would tell me what she knew l
would let her go. showed her the
bits OF clothing. | never saw the piece
of jawbone. l had it in my possess
sion, but never looked at it. re-
ceived the clothing on Sunday the
jawbone at later time.
Court-Did she hesitate to make
her statements to you?
A.-Not after lead her.
Glow did you lead her?
A.-By stating that l believed she
knew more and that | wanted her to
tell it to me. She wore a wrapper
when she came in. She greeted
me. do not know how
she greeted me. Her eyes were no,
inflamed with crying. l was in my
room when she came. did not order
Brady to put her in my room till |
got ready to see her. Brady retired
1t is not a fact that Brady said "Ihave
Hattie here" and Fitch had gone for
Minnie and would bring her before
long. She asked me what she was
brought for. l can't give her exact
language. l said to her: Hattie, /
know you were riding with Harlan
the night OF the murder. know
where you got the buggy. and l want
you to tell me about it," She did
not cry, but
SHE APPEARED BAsHFUL.
My object in telling it to her was to
get confession. did not believe
she was guilty or had guilty knowl-
edge OF the murder. but 1 suspected
it. | did not suspect any one else at
that time. 1 did not use any per-
suasion. l did not use all the skill
had to get confession l do not con-
slider that have had large expert
ence as police expert. | consider
myself only an amateur. NY object
in sending for her was merely to find
out more of what she knew. thought
at the time Minnie might be in with
her; that is the reason | sent for her.
Court-Did you lead her on, induce
or urge her to make confession?
A.-After / told her about the
buggy, etc. she volunteered her
sta?emea'. 1told her knew she was
out with Harlan that night. told
her the best thing she could do was to
tell me the whole truth about it. l
was interested in having her tell me
all about the whole business. | was
ambitious to ferret Out q mysterious
crime. l did not urge her to tell. l
told her J. wanted to know. I might
have said it would be better if she'd
make a full disclosure. l did not tell
her knew she vas guilty Of killing
Harlan robbery and that l would let
her go if she would tell me about it..
No such language, in substance or
effect, happened as the scene de-
scribed in the presence of Minnie.
When Minnie came she was brought
into the presence of her sister after 1
had finished my conversation with
her, not Immediately after she came
into the station. When Fitch brought
Minnie, he came to the door and said !,
"Minnie is here" said, "hold on,
| am not ready to see her yet" / fin
ished my conversation. 1t was fifteen
or twenty minutes before she was ad-
mitted. She was making voluntary
statement. At first l asked her some
questions, and then she continued vol
UNFAIRLY. We had already been to-
gether over an hour. l may have
asked her some questions, after Fitch
announced the arrival Of Minnie. /
asked her some questions all along
relative to her motive in doing this
and that. She told me the whole
story before she stopped and then 1
questioned her some, and she re-
peated her story again. thought
from what she said to ME in the
morning that it was important
enough to take it down in writing
My motive in calling Brady, and hav-
ing him write it down, was 30 that
she could not deny it afterwards. l
told her after the morning interview
that had no further use for her, aud
| let her go home. In the evening 1
did not think of calling a witness to
take down in writing the confession
she made was surprised when she
confessed but not overwhelmed with
excitement. | consider the state
ment made at nj ght as more import
ant than that iven in the morning.
HER STATEMENT.
1t did not occur to me until il was too
late, to have her statement taken
down in writing. She started off in
her conversation before l expected it,
and told it so easy that 1 thought she
she would not hesitate to tell
it again to anybody. l Am
not positive that l know City
Editor Stevens of the Tribune. did
not tell him Hattie had made con.
fession to me. Ii l did tell that she
had not made confession, lied to
him, for 1 kept the confession away
from the press altogether. I did not
send Afford and Brady to try to see
whether they could get contradictory
stories from her. told Jeffreys and
Fitch to stay there all night with
her. 1 left the two girls there to-
gether all night with the differs. I
did not tell the officers to try to get a
statement out Of Hattie to see il it
would corroborate the one made to
me. 1 did not tell Minnie that Hat
tie made confession. / am not pos
tive that I ordered Minnie to be kept
there that night in the presence of
Hattie and to use her Influence in
making Hattie confess. l think
gave her permission to stay with her
sister for company. 1t is false that
told Minnie that ] would keep Hattie
till doomsday if she did not confess.
1t was the night OF the 18th of Octo-
ber that took the girls in. 1t was a
day after Sunday, but ! cannot say
that it was the day after Sunday.
Minnia went and caua as sbo plaaood