Springfield daily republic. [volume] (Springfield, O. [Ohio]) 1887-1888, 1888-02-18
6DER AND WHISPERS"
o. IN OTHER WORDS. LYTLE AND
-- CLARK.
- fsssaaeay of Detective J. .. Clark
CeaslsAeA-EAward Iosag Takss ths
esaaA aaA Eaters . solemn Denial -
0raAvtlis's osaaenaents-


eAlned st great length yesterday by Mr..
Huling. He testified that he met Gran
Vile about year ago. Granville first men
toned the tAIly sheet forgery at Clark IS Of
hce, Isl Ia Salie street, some time in May,
1857. The witness Was in the newspaper
business at the time lie did not hold him.
0ek out 70 Granville as q detective.
Mr.. Granville came to me one day in the
o6ace and says to me, CLARK, l know where
10 good schems whereby you can make
mooey-barrels OF money in it, l said II
IL - legitimate and lawful don't mind 60
ng into il, but want . few days TO con-
sider thst, and he stated the case hyPothe-
uoally 10 me. l considered the matter and
concluded l would go into it believing il to
b true.
Granville told him some of the facts in
the case but not all OF them. Mr.. Clark re-
Peated his statement made Wednesday,
that Granville told him 10 ask 81, 90 for
the information. and also gave instructions
that his Granville 81 name was not TO be
made KNOWN. Mr. Clark admitted that his
idea in going into the case WAS to get money
fur the information, and also 10 obtain en-
P.oyment in working up the case. About
. week Ut ten davs after Granville had COM
InAnIcated the informa ton, the hrst letter
Wes written TO Mr.. Huling lie tClark J
wrote il. but Granville dictated it, both as
aatV suestattN iahkAatV-
aid that ther went into the thing with the
= "a that it was perfectly legitimate. Gran
VII" did Dot give him the name of a single
NItn.>s, but said he knew OF persons who
would testify as witnesses in the case. Mr.
,lark Admitted that lac concealed his iden.
'ity during the fir, visit Of Huling TO Chi
sAso. IL. and Granville both Ihought il
tor the best Tor him L. do ~.
The statement of facts furnished Huling
by Lyil- during the tir>t chicago interview,
was Wrlt,.n hy Clark and dictated by Gran
vile nearly aud word iur word.
Mr.. ,iarA admitted that he might have
tsld Huing that be tClsrkl had been 70
Colu mbu,, and got some information about
the case
He admitted that at the interview At the
Neil H"u-' August .nth. he denied that the
hlfo rmario.n Wa derived from Granville.
Was acuns according Ia the latter's instruc-
tions at tie time. ll- claimed that he had
wor ked faithfully f"r the prosecutor while
in b is cniy,l", Hsd made diligent search
TO n nd Martin and Guu"k-l.
A ter Soant IuriiIer questioning upon the
Chic ,go iuIrrs cws ia which nothing e.
Ied lily ne~ ws> elected. the examination
~as dIr,rr,',i toward Mr.. lark past life.
II 6 was p"r.I iu lac West Indies and haO
resi- led at .ilfsr-ns liinc> ia England, Gef
man y. a ,Ia,ia. anal lately in the United
Stat y. He i,a. !'-.u engaged in marine
insu -aIicc. >nIPII;Iy rnIgrants 10 Brazil,
farm ing c,ers.ns. newspaper work, abb
stEaf ing, aud =! i..ts ~. the detective bu1i.
ned
Tn wiln-sS ~a> ak Il what he had been
doin for tiIc !, 1T twu "r three months. and
after t.Insid.-ratic hesitation. answered that
hs vas w,.rHing f"r Mr.. Chaplin. . Chicago
detectivr. cI.Sti"ied as to the nature VI
the det,1t' work Ia. MAS doing for Chaplin.
Mr.. Cia-A rSIlh7i that lac could not give
away iGr rryrs of detective work. He
aw Chaplin IA, ~ today.
Wen, IL Cincinnati about two weeks ago
Mr.. CLARK acknowledged being cauainted
With Chicago detective by the name Of
Harmon, and detective OF Cincinnati BY
the name vi Witte. Had known the latter
about three weeks Recess WAS taken st
shis point until one o'clock.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
The crosse xamination was resumed in
The afternoon. Mr.. Clark said that he had
been approached by Chaplin about five
srsm, which reads, Bring pear cider, and
olso bring uhiskers, will meet you at morn
iAg train" Ii was from Chaplin in Cincin-
neti 70 Hartman Mr.. Clark explained
that pear cider referred to Lytle and
vh3ken 20 himself. He and Lytle
In company with Hartman left for
Cincinnati. not long afterwards. He said
that he came here by request of Mr.. Chaplin
end for the purpose OF vindicating himself
He was receiving SO q day and expenses,
but would have come anyhow for the pur-
pose Of vindication. Mr.. Huling the en,
amined the witness al length in regard to
his condition before and after taking the
Trip. The witness dr,ied emphatically that
he wasin the distressed condition indicated
BY the prosecutor questions He admit
ID that they had procured some new clothes
sincs they left Chicago, but denied that
they were poorly clad before starting.
Mr.. Clark was then questioned in regard
% their stay in Cincinnati. where they
we're in company with Chaplin and Witte.
They stepped q; first at the Walnut Street
Hou.s, but afterwards went to the Ienni-
son House. Mr.. Huling: The Walnut
Houss Was not good enough for you?'
Witness: NO" loud laughter
Mr.. Clark va. then examined in detail
about the stay in Cincinnati. where the
party lived high. attending the opera even
ings, and playing poker and seven-up
during the day. Admitted that his COM
panions nick named him the Count" and
affirmed that he MAS a count. Said that
they all had some nick He vas in
the habit of tipping the waiter while stop
ping At the Cincinnati hotels Allen o.
Nyes did not call on him while in Gin
einnsti. blackburn and Cogan called Q
few 6mes. The party consisting Of Chaplin,
Hartman. Witte. Lytle and himself arrived
here on Monday. and are stopping At the
American House. The witness did not
know wharnfhe expenses were. Chaplin
wes paying his expenses.
The witness Was the briefly re-examined
BY Nr Converse. lie said that the names
OF the persons 10 be convicted upon the
information furnished By Lvtle and him
self vers 10 the best Of bis recollection r.
b. Montgomery, Edward Young, Allen
o. Ayers, Thomas }. Coean, Fred steube,
H. J. Booth, and, he thought, John Gre
T. Blackburn being one of them. He had
heard Granville say that he did not want
TO come 20 Columbus to testify Is, II he
did, they would make il hot for him down
here. He had heard Granville say that
some part Of the forgery might have been
committed at the penitentiary. part Of
the testimony before Squire Fritchey had
been brought by Mr. Huling 70 Chicago on
one Of his trips Granville said that more
might have been got out of him, il the
right kind of questions had been put to
him. Mr.. Clark said that when they heard
from Huline that Granville had been in the
Ohio Penisentiary, the wind Was all taken
out Of them He testified that the letter
head. A. f. Lytle. Detective Agency, was
suggested by Granville.
Mr.. Clsrk's examination was concluded
at p. m. and the next witness called by
the defense VAS Edward Young. candidate
for the Legislature in this county At the
election in IS. He testified that be was in
the city the Saturday after election attend
ing the count Mr. Booth WAS one of his
attorneys before the canvassing board The
azHuments on the disputed precincts were
1ooth the witness went Ia the Court House
- ~ him blank poll book and tally
aheet for his use in the argument the next
day Mr.. Booth said he wanted the papers