New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-08-21

minds Of The committee 20 what did DO Thcrc j.
evidently desire on the part OF the eomm'.ce 70 XIV"
whether two letters one wish 70 ~, us'
here that regard letter be the one signed Ny the
Mayor. the nnai one. might make many drafts
Did you send any letter written communication 70
prior the letter WHICH you 10" c"' ''
inal letter! Ayes. did.
o-was that draft or written communication sent by
| yUu signed Mayor1 A'-Ses
| Q.-was IL received back from tho Governor
I will say that Withdrew 1t and wrote another ie''cr
have testified that wrote two letters. really wrote
three. 1890
o-Did vou withdraw The nrst draft Of this written
communication at the request OF any oncG A-No
| o.-Dd any request It's withdrawail 40 ST.
| Did Won have any conversation about Withdrawing
III Ayes
OWN you state with whom you had The conversational
Ayes with Mr.. Rice.
| MR. NICOLL TAKES HAND.
zone moment cried Mr.. Nicol What viii be
achieved by this line of examination p
General Tracy-ls this an objection of counsciF
Mr. Nicoll-It is suggestion to the committee as
TO the propriety OF continuing this line OF cN-
animation in the public interest.
The chairman ruled that there was no objection
TO the evidence, and Mr. Nicoll appealed. Senator
McNaughton agreed with him men co, Gc'ici"'
Tracy folded his arms ana mace speech
The Msyor-why don't you question the Mayor There
you've got the writer Of the letter himself as witness
Senator FAsscttMr Mayor, as soon as our lawyer VIII
! permit u.s. We will. (Laughler)
Mr. Nicol-This evidence is certainly Irrelevant ana
be said that 1t was produced for partisan p'f
poses To the committee from such an unjust I'M
puation make his objection. IL Is not III tlnc 70
have tina, evidence now the lines of battle between
great contendnr parties drawn ana mems minus
drawn away f-tn that seller Judgment which usually con
trolls Senator's (Laughter)
TIE MAYOR WILL. DO IT ON CONFUSION.
! And so the dispute went on, until the Mayor
once more exclaimed to General Tracy: The let
ter is what you want, but what you won't get UNI
less am finally ordered TO produce it," General
Tracy went on another tack. lie began 20 make
some suppoStions. Supposng,' he said " the
Mayors letter charged that the contracts were let
by corrupt bargain? Surprising 1t might be
shown that the letter charged that public money
had been improperly dsbursed by the Aqucduct
Commissioners and that il should appear that the
Governor received some OF that money ? SuppoS-
ing
" But it didn't charge IT. Now, that stamps
| that !" cried the Mayor. " We may as well get rld
! Of all such suppositionS'
General Tracy-By the production OF the letter
ter? ,.
The Mavor-No, by asking the witness. If
the Mayor is ordered to produce that letter, he
may do it, if that judgement is sustained Dy COIL
pctent court of jurisdiction
TIE WITNESS MAKES A SPEECH
General Tracy was going to ask some more ques-
itions when Mayor Hewitt asked the committee to
delay further examination till he had fully stated
his opinions on the matter in dispute. We'll
wait" said General Tracy. The Mayor then said
suppose the object Of committee Is 10 get at the
truth A witness may have written great variety 81
things which he would not Justify under oath
when he gets on the stand. I don't say there
IS any such thing Involved In this particular case but
the only object In calling for the letter may be 70 pe
something damage tie Mayor and the Govcrnor No"
This committee cannot call Governor witness nor
intcrrogae him subject whatever. There Is only
one mode Of proceeding by which the Governor can 90
brought TO account-by impcaehmont-and TIA; by the
Lower House and by any committee ii inc
Senate Committee sitting here trying TO Get evidence
| in advance OF an impeachment which VIII damage inc
Governor and prejudice the judgment 81 the
House. they are engaged in On unconsuu-
tional work. II the object Is 10 punish me
MAYOR the law has pointed out how that may DC done
The Governor State Of Ncw-York may remove the
Mayor II he has violated his duty ana not inc SnS'e'
II then The Mayor when here is required 70 produce
letter which in the Judgment Of anyoiv would he His-
advantageous to the Governor, the object apparently
nocal and partisan and intended to put the Governor
| On hole 1 will he party to putting the governor
OF this State in hole Il 1t were possible say HanS
| thar. f. nothing In the letter OF when
| the Governor or the Mayor need be 'Shahcu, ou'
will not allow great ONCE OF Governor 81 'hc 9''c
=, NewYork or tho important ONCE Of Mayor OF me
| C,.v ~, Nowyo,k 10 be used for partisan purposes
am here to defend the dignity OF tho Mayor and am nre
rs,ed to prevent municipal any consuion ohcc' HUN
| being turned 10 poltca. INTEREST,"
THE LITTLE oUTBURsT APrLAUDEH
!
The Mayor-No promises or suggestions were 'na'e w
e % ,he Governor. The conference between Coionel
Rice and myself Just such az two poio onceI Nv
sirous Of the public interest would hoiu. III "o'' " %
,,o or drafts did request that $4,000 be returned 10
| the city. ~ ,.,r,oo, snout
Senator ysssett-Theh the ncwspape- statement SOou
! that was not correct. -. ..o,,-
The Mayor-we. as 70 newspaper sta'.n'c" ~, -.
sanao, Fn..stt-Weli public uldeis'ahd from Hio
| newspapers thot- . =, 49,. .or,rn,,.on f.
| The Mayor with great emphasis)-li 'n' o ,,,
to be Judged for instance. by newspaper s'a'"''' WIS
committee will De condemned 70 eternal
| iThe Mayor heartily joined ID tne pLo"' frbon
ronr of lau ghter which greeted thiS retH e.. o,r,
he made several hundred NOR ,.ors Tho most
| replies 20 questions aDout Tue i0'VNiS'
interesting were as follOWs'
,v,., Il, vour op,non Of the letting Of the Aqre-
Ana, contracts Al have nevc: been disposal % cen
sure IN. motives OF tho action Of the gentlemen coeceS
in that At the time am against ther poi'S ""N
| have voted against H. - 1870 .,, g., ,r- yrov n
s.c,,on 19q Al DO not that referred to IL BY
! name but 1 tsnK the subettlns OF IL was enu'N''
| one OF the violations OF thc law
| sorTENlNe DOWN TIE LETTER
I'm your interview with Mr.. Rico did he suggest any
| so..,,ors NJ that communication which you sent 10
tho Goyernori Ale called my attention 10 phfaseS
and words which he though. Objectionable but no MAUI
| no suggestions or aelatoht 1890, -, A., ~,
.s,,s hos. words were in good TASTE and whenever l
| thought that altered them
ODD YOU alter the letter by leaving out all the words
no, In good lastei A-No ST. ai'e'cu IL " SUN my
| self Jio suggested no words
Odd you leave gu. the phrases objected to Al
aid no, leave out any material statements or allegations
Odd you OUT any Of the phrases to which ne
called vour attention. Al think 1. very possible
| am not sure
oThe draft letter and tho letter as sent being
introduced would show the changes would they not! A.
Certainly they woui but do how It Affects this
INQUIRY / write great letters and change them
1 I'm not one OF tho castron letter writer's u.au2hcr)
The Mayor admitted that his Withdrawing his
| first mmuncation followed Riccs visit one
| of the changes he made in the second letter was
| To change the word politician TO the word
| PARTISAN
Mr. Nicoll-whom were you referring TO the OF
| the word politician?
! The Mayor-Not TO the Governor to Mr.. Rice.