The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1888-08-21
THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY,
SiXty-third Day.
MONDAY, August 13.


Ashford: Mobiles Robinson, Dowsett,
Young. Jaeger. Smith, Foster, Wight,
Motley, Wall. Townsend. Hitchcock, Bald
win, Bailey, Campbell, Widemann, Makee,
Wilcox, Bertelmann; Reps. Hustace,
Dowsett, KalaukOa, hauhl, {. Brown, +.
Brown. Kinney. Mcguire, kauhane, Paris,
Nawahine, Daniels, Wilcox, Nakaleka,
hspaehsole.
PETITIONS.
Noble Waterhouse presented a petition
from ;. H Mekapu, supplementary to his
petition OF report OF June Il. Referred to
Sanitary Committee.
Rep. Helekunihi presented a petition
from Huelo. Maui, for a wharf Referred
TO Public Lands and Internal Improve
ments Committee.
REPORTS OF COMMITTEES.
Noble Smith read the report Of the bill,
introduced by Rep. +. Brown, July ?, TO
amend section l,036 OF the Civil Code.
Recommend that the bill be laid on the
table Adopted.
ORDER OF THE DAY.
Coffee.-Second reading Of the bill intro
duced BY the Minister OF Interior, June
30. 10 encourage the cultivation of coffee,
with the majority and minority reports of
GANSNAAtEA AtoHNNl-
lively, July p and %, thereon. The bill was
taken up section by section.
Noble Baldwin moved the first section
pass
Noble Wight moved the first section and
the whole bill be indefinitely postponed.
He supported the policy recommended in
the minority report OF the Committee, en-
couraging small growers by bounties.
Noble Baldwin approved OF the principle
OF the bill Ii is intended that company,
with sufficient capital, will be formed 10
test in 3 practical way the cultivation OF
coffee in this country. The company will
introduce the best machinery, the latest
improvements and the most approved
methods. Ii would be impossible 10 reach
these results by distributing aid among
large number OF cultivators Notwith-
standing the fact that coffee has been raised
here for 40 years, the industry Is really in
its infancy Plantations pay twice as
much, man for man, in wages now as they
did twenty years ago, and get lower prices,
and yet the profits on sugar raising are
generally speaking better now than they
were then. The reasons are, better appi
ances and more economical methods oper-
ating on large scale and requiring capital
to Introduce and keep up. The United
States had spent millions OF dollars on
sorghum farms Tor the development Of that
industry, The object of this measure Is
not, as some persons assert II Is, to subsl-
die Mr. Forsyth. Ii Is to encourage this
i'm portant industry in the way most likely
TO be of permanent advantage to the coun-
try and at the smallest expense to the
government. The bounty plan, 10 be OF
any effect, would involve hundreds Of
thousands Of dollars. There Is no estlmat-
ing where its cost would end.
9 kalt
had been mentioned IN this discussion.
But since Mr.. Forsyth's name had been
mentioned, he would say that he believed
the bill TO be to encourage that gentleman
and for no other purpose. Coffee grows
on the tree and there is very little ma
chinery required about il. Such is not the
case with sugar Coffee raising had been 4
carried on here 40 years ago, and so profit
able was it at HanaleI that one extensive
cultivator invested and lost all he had in IL
The plantation had all the machinery re-
quired, but the enterprise died an igno-
ninious death In 1856, 81 and SO, the
blight struck the plant, and spread over
the country. If the plant was generally
started again it would be struck again in
the same way. For these reasons he
wanted to keep his hands off coffee. To
say that the Government can stop the sub
sidy when il becomes burdensome, that's
all in my eve The title Of the bill should
be changed to read for the encouragement
of certain company to cultivate coffee
and not encourage anyone outside OF that
Noble Smith said he was in favor of the
bill, for two reasons, ~ he believed in the
future of this country, % the wealth and
development of the country depends
mainly on its agricultural industries. The
Hon. w. H. Seward said in the U. ). SEN
ate, in 1851: The Pacific ocean, its shores,
its islands and the vast region beyond will
become the chief theatre OF events in the
worlds great hereafter. Before many
years, steamers will be running from here
to San Francisco in ~ days. In fact,
there are steamers on the Atlantic now
that would make the passage in that time.
We are now depending on two or three
industries. Great Britain and the United
States are spending millions on the en-
and development Of new IN
iustries every year. The State OF California,
an empire in itself as 10 extent, owes its
progress of late years, not TO |
is gold mines, but to the development OF
Is agricultural resources. There are other
AGRICULTURAL products that might be culti-
Tated as proftably as cane or rice in these
stands Tobacco had been raised here and
With excellent success, except that those |
working it had failed in properly curing 1t. |
Minister Thurston said the hon. Noble |
ideas seem TO be always re- |
-olying within the circle OF 40 years ago. |
Tha Mobiles attack upon Mr.. Forsyth was |
IN attack upon him, the Minister. People |
lad been experimenting little and talking |
great deal about coffee culture these 40 |
ears. Now, we propose to &c ahead and |
10 something. A majority of the commit 1
ee and majority of the House had agreed |
hat coffee cultivation ought to be encour- |
.ged. The only question now is the method 1
o be adopted. The provisions of this bill |
ire in the line Of the measures adopted by 1
Ither countries. The reform Government /
las come into power for something more
han stopping the kaimiloa. The Govern
nent Is not supposed to sit ike an old hen
IN nest and do nothing. The way TO
progress is TO do something. The British
had gone into tea raising in
ndia, and now India is raising one-third /
f the tea crop of the world. That Gov
rnment had in the same manner. at enor-
nous outlay, made cinchona one of the
reat staples of India and Jamsica. Coffee
an be raised here, and We propose to start
Noble Wight said he was anxious to en-
ourage coffee cultivation but could not
gree with the Minister Of Interior that
be best way 70 do it is to subSidize persons
aving capital enough Of their own.
Usual noon recess, one hour
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