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Idaho news. (Blackfoot, Idaho) 1887-1891, 1888-08-25
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Ah1% @eNNANeAN &AfA fUsFEYM5
Il aslilust0n dispatch: lie u
days session Of the national eos,..ll
Of the American party Was ealIsl n
der at iI:l0 this morning. IT. 81
Eary officers we're made periaaas,,
committee on platform aud rea Il
made majority aud minority fss.s
Both reports were Fucommil,a /
instructions given 10 the conn
report at l:l5 u m. A recess Va
taken until that time,
When the convention reass
Governor Sharp Offered 4 80
pledging the convention 10 aosaisss
dependent candidates for pses x
vice president. A long di9.mass
lowed. during which il aas Ia
that tho New York dclesasiaa u
somebody's pay. Tho resalaiim
finally adopted. The Illinois L.
then announced that. lnastaHeA a |
come hers 10 participate Il ID
convention and NOT in a New Yas
convention IL would Withdns q
the hall Pennsylvania, vsrmaaa
CONAN aud several other dslesssi.asa
lefl. The New York aud Caliiosra|
egAtions wers nearly the o4sy /
which EvmAinnd. Recess wa saas|
Ill Up nj. The boilers viii mss i
Ebbrtt hoasc.
Atthc evening session: lensns n
LangdDn Curtis, 81 Connsrtbaa
nominated for president u DE "a
States. receiving forty i've vglaA|
teen for Mayor Hcuist, 81 NsEl
and four for General Nusly, q FsnI
YRnia
The New York delegation Ys&A
thtriyreigtis ro,ca for Carts Sri
soy rast four i1F Curtis, aud vael
Calilaruia. Maine aud Marylsal j
for Hewitt, and Kansas aud Teas ]
for Net Judge james Z Gfus|
Tennessee. uas nominated tas IN
idrnt and the convention 1t ID
adjourned sine din.
Idaho news. (Blackfoot, Idaho) 1887-1891, 1888-08-25

THERE is talk of establishing per
fumery factory at Beatrice.
Idaho news. (Blackfoot, Idaho) 1887-1891, 1888-08-25

Pathetic s.sieias Of Foa.a a,.,,

Pathetic sasieids Of q Reang an,
Denver special: Fannie PIER
sixteen. the adopted dauglta, II
Birlsall, shielded ut his resjAs,.
1909 Ninth street, yesterday u0S.'
suspicious circumstances. d,
time she had absented herself 49,
with the excuse that aha w.
out, but IL il now believed ~,
in dissolnte company. YesterJss
ing q private policeman vbo
quainted with the girl found l.. ~
street at o o'clock aud tool H..
She went 10 her room aud an ha..
wards took four draehms 81 R sa II
Rats. She fingered ia terrbi.
until . o'clock last night whea v. i
refusing 10 make any Statement \
cause for her actions. The poliss
10 investigate the case, and I'M.
arrested james MeDaniels - NJ
connected with one OF the yariss. 4
tiers Of this city, who had besn
her company, aud Emma Bal,
companion Of the dead Girl. ~
Baker girl Was taken to tia st.s
confessed that MeDaniels raj III
them 10 so 10 the theater MI
made them intoxicated, tool ths- N
room and accomplished IT, III
girls ruin II Is alleged tllat 4
the girl a prisoner three 81 ~ 1
and when she succeeded ID ssea,;s,5
out Of remOrse. took her life.
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however, by a good deal. for Lorimer's
rink Of the st. Paul Curling club had a
score of 40 to Z against Fargo, although
the Fargos are new players.
1t was good game for the day and
the kind, however, commencing at
1880, and the last agate of the twenty
one heads was curled at 2:30. Hastings
rink, of the Minneapolis Thistles:
Drummonds, of Portage la Prairie:
Woods, of Chicago; Jackson's of Stone
wall, Man.; Wells, of Portage,
WIS, and Chisholm'S, OF the Win
nlpeg Ihistles, played in the
jackson street rink. There
the ice was good until noon. but at any
time during the game it was the best.
for the ice upon the carnival grounds
was under water in some places, and
that by the central fire Headquarters on
Eighth street, where West. of Milwau-
kee, and Cameron, of the Minneapolis
Thistles, played against one another,
was fairly honeycombed. T.. A.Abbott,
of the st. Paul club, was the official
scorer.
The game between the Portage. Wis.
rink, Wells skip and the Winnipeg
Thistle rink, Chisholm skip, was pretty
hotly contested. 1T was a surprise TO
Cameron, of Minneapolis, to beat West,
OF Milwaukee. Notwithstanding the
bad ice there was great deal
of pretty fine playing and the
familiar faces of prize-winners Hast
ings, of Minneapolis. Frazer and Pat
terson. of Winnipeg, and old veteran
curriers' like Dryden, Chisholm, Wells.
Smith, Fortune and Drummond sur
prised their st. Paul friends. With
such skips as Lorimer, Hastings, ,Rodger.
Wells, Dryden and West, it was thought
the East had IA sure thing, but the
splendid players from Manitoba decided
it otherwise. Following was the score:
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Chips From the Ties.

Tomorrow, Thursday, the %, oil the oe-.
caslon OF the second storming of the ice
palace, the Omaha road will run the follow
ing special trains for those who desire to see
the storming; Leaving st. Panl al 1915 p.m.s
for Eau Claire and points east of Hudson.
Leaving ST. Paul at 10 80 D. NJ for Duluth,
Ashland, Ne% Richmond, River Falls. Leav.
ing ST. Paul at ! j p. m. for Lake Elmo and
saltwater. Leave St. Paul at 1918 p. IN for
Shakopee, Mankato and Lake Crystal.
The Northern Pacific has ordered that an,
regular freight traffic be given secondary con-
sideration because of the demand for coal, 1
all available cars being required for the
transportation of that article. Even perish-
able freight must be set aside. The road Isl
sending west from 200 to 800 cars OF coaB
daily from Duluth.
Assistant General Manager Ainslie ot The
Northern Pacific, was informed By q dispatch
that one OF the rotary shovels had cleared
the jamestown branch, and that the Little
Falls & Dakota branch had also been Opened.I
The whole OF the Northern Pacific road Isl
now opened.
A special sleeper came in over the Omaha's
train from Chicago. bringing party Of thirty
members of the Mystic Shrine They come
here to visit the ST. Paul members Of the
order and partly TO witness the Carnival The
party will occupy the car all the time they
are here.
Yesterday J. NJ. Egan, general superinten-
dent of the Manitoba, severed his connections
with that road. and to-day win assume the
position of general manager of the ST. Paul
d. Kansas City road.
j. II. Whitaker, general travelling agent Of
the Minneapolis & ST. Louis. succeeds +. A. /
Whitaker as general agent Of the road in st.
Paul.
The st. Paul & Kansas City issued newi
tariff yesterday on freight between 81. Paup
ana kaEsas City ana immediate points.
Z. B. Wakeman. assistant general superin-I
tendent of the Manitoba road returned yes-
terday from California.
The st. Paul & Kansas City road did not
have a load Of freight on its road yesterday
overdue.
c: C. Burdick OF the Mason City x Fort
Dodge, is III st. Paul.
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The Toboggan Race.

The toboggan race, one-eighth of a
mile. man pulling each tOboggan, and
each tobaggan burdened with small
boy Of daring nature, took place upon
the grounds yesterday afternoon after
the float parade. Capt. John w. Lux,
Michael Hahn. Joseph Bach and N.
Sausen, of the Bunker Hill club; r. e.
Hairy, of the Northern Pacific: A. f..
Cameron, of Winnipeg, and George
Wisnom, of the ST. Georges club, EN-
tered. Judge A. S. Hall, w. G. Read
and Bert Hewitt were the Judges, and
2. w. Parker gave the start.
II was rough and ready race with q
rougher track. and the ''kids'' upon the
toboggans were in danger of death until
the finish. Lux got short lead at the
start off, but Cameron let out in fine
style and finished winner with Lux
close behind him. WisnOm and Hairy
were nip and tuck for third place. Fred
Napier. of the Little Crow club. rode the
winning toboggan, and w. ii. Eckles, of
the North Stars, was laid out flat upon
Lux's tOboggan. Charlie Sonnen, of
the Bunker Hill club, also got ride.
Nobody was hurt. although acoupIe of
toboggans narrowly escaped turning,
over, and all were at different times in
danger of general miX-up.
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DEMORALIzED RATES.
A Season of Demoralized
Rates and a Freight War
In the Northwest.
The Burlington Is on the
War Path Against the
Minneapolis.
The Omaha & Southwestern
Has Filed Articles Of
Incorporation.
An Election to Be Called to
Vote Aid to the Sioux
City & Northern.

CHICAGO, Jan. 31.-The railroads of
the Northwest are in for season of de-
moraliZed rates and freight war. and
generally recognize that the fight is in
eyitable. A meeting of the managers
was held here to-day to consider the
BurlingtOn's notice of withdrawal of
the guarantee that the Burlington &
Northern would maintain tariff rates.
1t was clearly understood that the Bur-
lingtOn would take no further response
bility III the matter, and that the Bur-
lington & Northern was OH the war
path, and determined to get business
away from the Minnesota & Northwest
ern, or else make it improbable for
that line. The st. Paul filed ten DAYS
notice of withdrawal and the chairman
ruled that it was not necessary, as the
organization was built up on the
BurlingtOn'S guarantee, and that,
having been withdrawn, no longer
existed. 1t was then resolved
to continue the association ten days
longer, during which time the policy of
the Burlington & Northern would de-
velOp, and then hold another meeting to
further consider the situation. With
this understanding adjournment was
had, subject to call of the chairman.
The Burlington & Northern, it is an
nounced this evening, has signaliZed it's
Independent position by a 10 per cent
reduction of through rates on all classes
of commodities from New York via Chi
cagO to st. Paul and Minneapolis. Its
new tariff is for frst-clasS 90 cents, sec
Ond ~, third 81. fourth AZ, fifth 40, and
sixth "a. The Minnesota & Northwest
ern and wisconsin Central, it is under
stood. will at once meet the reductions.
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AN ASYLUM sWINDLE.
The Iowa Insane Asylum SwindIedf
Out of a Very Large Amount Of
Goods.

INDIANAPOLIS, Ind, Jan. 31.-Oh
Saturday night the railway ticket Office
and freight room at Brownsburg. Hem
bricks county. was entered by thieves
and robbed of small sum of money
and quantity of goods. The thieves
opened many boxes in the freight room
and scattered their contents indiscrim-
inately For more than a year trunks
and boxes have been arriving at Browns
burg from Mount Pleasant, To-, con-
signed james Miller, in care of James
Hudson" Miller is a step-son of Hud-
son, and has for four years
been in the employ of the insane
asylum at Mount Pleasant, as steward.
and during these years Hudson has
been receiving shipments from that
place. The boxes opened by the bur-
glars contained wearing apparel of the
kind used III public institutions. O0
Mo day Hudson came to Brownsburg
and called for the goods, but on learn
ing they had been exposed, refused to
take them. 1t is stated that during the
four years past, goods to the value Oe
5000 have been received at p
burg for Hudson, all com
Mount Pleasant. a Telegram
Pleasant elected reply
goods were missing from
No arrests have been mad
ough inquiry is in progress
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HEARTFELT GRATITUDE.

paca: Fortune, of Winnipeg, against
Dryden, of Milwaukee; Harstone, of
Winnipeg, against Rodger, of st. Paul:
Frazer, of Winnipeg, against Mckay, of
Chicago: Mcleod. of Fargo, against
West. of Milwaukee; Lindsay, of
Stonewall, against MacWhlter, of
Chicago; Hastings. of Minneapolis.
against McCulloch. of ST. Paul; Little.
OF Minneapolis, against Woodworth. of
Waupaca: McKechnie. of Winnipeg,
against Neal Smith, of st. Paul: Drum-
mond, of Portage la Prairie, against
LorImer, OF st. Paul; Jackson, of Stone
wall, against Baxter, of st. Paul. and
Smith, of Winnipeg, against Wells, of
Portage.
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all colored ribbons, and the float was
guarded by youthful knights on either

all colored ribbons, and the float was
guarded by youthful knights on either
side.
Bunker Hill was nicely represented,
and also the North Star followed by
about SIX boys on Shetland ponies and
SIX Others on toboggans drawn by pom
les. One of the prettiest features of the
procession was the display made by the
Papoose Toboggan club. They occu-
pied Tom Thumb cutters drawn by
ponies. They were cheered at intervals
and really played an imposing part.
The Fire Fly club, also composed
of children, were fright in line" On a
common small coasting sled they had
rugged up small and wonderfully cute
float, somewhat similar in shape to that
of the Fire Kings, and seated on the
small throne little Florence Dodge adj
mirably played her part. The Mime
tonka club brought up the rear. The
procession moved down the regular
route TO the carnival grounds.
At the grounds the procession
marched around the palace past the
judges, Col. Moore and Messrs. Stryker
and Monfort, who were stationed at the
east arch. When all were in the
grounds the prizes were awarded as fol-
lows: Windsor club for best float;
Rainbow club for second best, and Fire
Fly club special. Then, the clubs dis
OprSpd
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Thousands Of MaskepS Make
Night Hideous With Their
! Merry Din.
All Sorts of Grotesque and
Fanciful Characters Were
Represented.
Prizes Awarded at the Grand
Wind-Up at the Mardi
GraS Ball.
st. Paul and Venice!


The sentence looks nice in print, and
both cities are right in line, though
few thousand leagues apart.
st. Paul reminds one of Venice. not
because it is so different, but because of
last nights entertainment.
Most of you have read of the wonder
full street carnivals and grotesque pro-
cessions in Venice, from which sprung
that sweet song entitled, The Carnival
OF Venice and not a few of you have
feveled in the desire to go abroad and
see them. Perhaps you didn't think
then that st. Paul would be the Ameri-
can enice, but it is. Don't go abroad!
Save your dollars! lii few days peo-
pie of Venice will be reading of st. Paul
that which st. Paul people have often
read of Venice.
The Mardi Gras festival last night
was grand success, and st. Paul has
added another score to it's long list of
world leaders, The people join the
GLOBE in saying that nothing of the
kind has ever been witnessed in any
city except st. Paul, on this side of the
seething brine. This was the newest
and greatest feature of the winter Car
nival, and will doubtless give it life for
another seasons run. People went wild
ever 1t; for to see such sig hts and
actions in Minter, outside of a ball
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01

thing else. Certainly the East against
West contests are no great trials of
skill, and what interest the curriers'
have in the Carnival all centers in the
great bOnspiel which commences to-day,
in which the Kinks play off. rink against
rink. until the contest narrows
down to the last two. There
was considerable objection eX-
pressed to the division of the
East and West, and even the winners
could not attach any great significance
to the silver punch bowl and the four
gold medals under the circumstances.
This is explained this way:
The clubs were drawn upon the ice
for East and West. One rink from Min
neapolis, three from st. Paul, three
from Waupaca, one from Portage, Wis.
two from Milwaukee and three
from Chicago constituted the East; and
seven from Winnipeg, one from Portage
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01

and other cross streets. At the corner
of Third and Minnesota band was sta
toned to retail enlivening music at in
tervals, like band at horse race, and
the naskers marched up and down the
Enclosure. The kind Of costume that
was r.9t there must have been i'm Venice,
thigh, of one kind, toboggan and
snow shOe uniforms predominated.
Princes, in bad and good-fitting silk and
satin trousers. cloaks, etc, were
numerous, though in a great
many; instances the mask corresponded
but slightly with the uniform. A hand
somcly attired young prince is not gem
orally supposed to have broad Fenian
mug or that of a North American In
dian, nor is a grotesquely dressed clown
thought TO own delicate, refined brow
and eNquisitely moulded features, but
as everything goes during the Carni-
val, z these may be excused, especially
when the idea is to be as funny as pos
slDlS. An old, silvery-haired man, of
perhaps ninety years OF age, bentdouble
with ''cheStnutiveness." seldom runs
around with the animation OF ask
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The QUEEN HAS COME.
The Queen of Winter Arrives
in State and is Duly
Welcomed.
1t Was Also the Prize Float
Q Parade and the Wind
SoP Won.
Beginning Of the Curling With
Twenty-Six Kinks at
Work.
The Carnival Gaieties and
Sports Are in Full
Blast To-Day.

The Queen of Winter. in royal robes
As white as snow drifts, rode through
the SANITY City in the mellow sunshine
yesterday. She had never come with
Borealis before, and special attentions
were shown her.
Nature hung a veil of mist over the
Carnival city the night before, and
when the sun rose at morning and wiped
this away, he hung jewels on all the
trees and Spattered them thickly on the
snow. The winter sun that was cold
and glaring when the sturdy Borealis
came last week, kissed tie earth more
warmly yesterday and the wind that
scattered iciclcs everywhere when Bo-
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01
RoreaIis Will Receive.

Rex BOrealis has issued the following
royal mandate:
81. PAUL, Minn., Jan. 90 1SSS.-The King
will grant you a special audience at his han-
quet hail, Hotel Ryan, Thursday evening,
Feb. 2. at 10 o'clock. Your presence is requi-
site, as matters of grave importance will
claim the attention of this court.
A list of the invited guests includes
the officers of the carnival association,
members of the press, and also the fol-
lowing distinguished subjects of the Ice
King:
Mayor Smith, st. Paul.
Mayor Ames, Minneapolis.
Hon. Thomas Lowry. Minneapolis.
John II. West, Minneapolis.
Mayor Sutphin, Duluth.
Mr. Miller, Duluth.
Hon. Charles Liena,I, st. Paul.
Hon. j. j. Rhodes, Hastings.
Hon. Henry Keller, Sauk Rapids.
Judge Lars M. Rand Minneapolis.
L. N. Scott, Grand opera house, ST. Paul.
The guests will assemble at 10p p. m !.
and star chamber session of great I'm.
portance will then be held. The enray
will, of course, make every exertion TO
obtain the plans which the king will
unfold to his court, but it is believed
their efforts in that line will be una
yailing. ~
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Three Men Killed

COLUMBUS, o., Jan. S1.-The second
section of the limited express OF the
Pittsburg, Cincinnati & st. Louis rail.
road, arriving here this afternoon,
and leaving for the West at O'Clock,
ran INTO an open switch near Urbana at
6 o'clock this evening and caused col
llsion with switch engine standing on
wrecked. Engineer Frank Brown and
Fireman Charles NJ. Alhand. of the pas
senger engine, both of Columbus, were
instantly killed, as was also Roadmaster
Welch, who was riding with them. The
men in the other engine were enabled
to see the danger, and jumped i'm time
to save themselves. No passengers
were killed, but many were badly
bruised and cut. The cars were badly
wrecked
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01
room or hall. was something entirely
new and novel

room or hall. was something entirely
new and novel.
THE BALLROOM
was on Third street, from Wabasha to
Sibley, and. had it been possible. the
immense thrOng would have crowded
the buildings on both sides of the street
out of sight. The crowd was there long
before the performers, and it is safe to
say that almost every window on
Third street was occupied. 1t
was next to impossible to
pass up or down, and human
sandwiches were common. The Mardi
Gras was advertised from Z until 10
O'Clock, but it was before the affair
was well under way. Mounted police
had hard work to clear the streets ana
keep it cleared afterwards. No one
was allowed inside the incloSure with
out being attired in costume and mask
of some description. The spectators
were confined to the sidewalks, and
ropes stretched across Cedar, Minnesota
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01
To-DAY's BIG TURN OUT.
The Great Industrial Parad

The Great Industrial Parade
Promises to Be the Finest Yet.
The industrial parade which takes
place this afternoon promises to be the
grandest of the street pageants so far
seen. Every feature representative of
st. Pauls growth and commercial i'm
portance will be in line. All the lead
ing trades industries and commercial
interests of the city will be ION
deck" and the various mercantile and
municipal bodies will swell the column
to monster proportions. Some idea of
the immensely of this procession can he
gained when it is known that the COM
mittees formed for the purpose of or
ganizing comprehend forty-nine whole
sale branches of trade, twenty-eight re-
tail and twenty-five special committees.
A novel and interesting feature of
the procession will be the appearance
of the first church that was ever erected
in st. Paul, and after which the city
was named. The old log church whEh
stood on Eerch street, now Se9ond
5S,r- .trz.cxs n., Urs exE. ID.
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la Prairie, two from Stonewall, Man..
one from Fargo and two from Minneap-
oils the West. Thus these twenty-six
rivals so divided were pitted one rink
of the East against one of the West, and
the side having the highest total score
was, of course, declared the winner, the
rink having the highest rink score of
the winning side getting the trophy and
four gold medals.
score of 244 to 23S, and Mckechnie's
rink, of the Winnipeg Thistles had the
HIGHEST RINK SCORE
on the vim NJ side. being 25 to s
against Waupaca No. 8. This was not
the highest rink score of the game.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01

year-old, to blow fog horn in some
ones ear, but for the reason given
above, the police allowed him to pass
on. Many an old guzzler smacked
his lips in glee at sight of
A WALKING 'GROWLER,"
/. e., an immense demijOhn of bright
new straw, in the neck of which was a
large clean funnel, and suspended from
the side, a nice large glass: This
formed the head, shoulders and trunk
of some original genius and was funny.
The old guZZler mentioned above, soon
left the scene for along the street came
staggering two mammoth ''black bot
ties" labeled "Tom and jerry" and
Crock and Rye' respectively. The
legs, from the knees down, and the
arms, were the only portions of the per-
former visible. These two, arm in arm,
attracted great attention. Down the
sidewalk came suddenly ripple of
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01
Avn Electric Rananet.

New YORK, Jan. 3l.-The Electric
club rooms III this city were formally
opened to members and guests tonight.
A number of electric contrivances were
in motion. Doors were opened, safes
unlocked. steaks and chops cooked, and
clocks were moved, all by electricity.
President Henry 4. Davis welcomed !.
sity, was tbe.iePrice and Horace b. Miller
II Letters of regret were sent by Presiden
"a Cleveland, Gov. Hill. Senator ingalls,
i. Gems. Sheridan and Sherman and Ad
@ | miral Porter.
St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-02-01
The Omaha g southwestern.

TOPEKA, Kan, Jan. 31.-The Omaha
& Southwestern Railway company, with
a capital stock of s6,OOO,OOO, has been in
cOrpOrated. The incorpOratOrs are
mostly Kansas parties. The length of
the road is 80 miles, and the route is
from point on the north line of the
state of Kansas, running thence south
westerly through the counties of Smith,
Phillips, Jewell, Norton, Osborn,
Rockies, Graham, Thomas, Sheridan,
TregO, Cove, Logan, Wallace, Orchel,
Greeley, Decatur. Rawlins and Hamill
ton, to a point at or near the thirty-sixth
parallel of latitude.
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Asks an Injunction.

CHICAGO, Jan. 31.-The motion of the
Pullman Palace Car company for an in
junction restraining the Wagner COM
pany from the use of the celebrated YES
tibule train was heard by Judge
Gresham this morning. Arguments were
made for both sides