St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-07-14
KILLED IN COMMITTEE,
Who Refuse to Repeal Three Cent
Fares.
EAYTON'S BLUFF CAN WAIT
Councilmen and Railroad Officials Fail
to Reach a Conclusion About IL
Transfers. 4. I;

night at the meeting of the council
committee. Arguments were set up
against arguments until about 10
O'Clock, and neither side would yield to
the other. il
As soon as Chairman Yoerg read the
ordinance, Lane K. Stone, of the COM
mittee of the chamber of commerce,
stated that that body had unanimously
adopted resolution favoring the repeal
| of the Scent fare clause. Messrso
Lindeke and Gribben. of the same CONS
| mlttee, also spoke briefly, the latter
! asking if Summit avenue was to be
exempted from all Street-car tracks,
horse and cable. He was assured that
| such was the tenor Of the resolution.
Aid. Hamm-As understand it,then,
Mr.. Lindeke, the chamber of commerce
| asks for no other concession. NO."
was the reply, s'onIy that Summit ave-
nue. he excepted"
Mr.. Stone explained how the matter
stood with the city railway company:
That it would be impossible for the
company to place its bonds on the
market with the three-cent clause in
| force.
Col. Barr, of the company, was called
upon. He didn't think it would be
proper or just for him to do anything
which would jeopardize the present
franchise OF the company, which, he
said,
WAS ALREADY MoRTGAGED.
The long and short of the matter was
that the company couldn't live and keep
on with the Scent rate. They wanted
TO build the cable On East Seventh
street to Duluth avenue, and unless the
scent clause was repealed they could
not float their bonds for that line.
Judge II. J. Horn, solicitor of the
company, regarded it more as a prac-
teal than legal question. He ex-
planned away the six-tickets-fo r-a-quar-
ter system. THAT was all right" he
said. when the company was young,
Dut 1t Is different now: Street railway
companies all over the country now
charge regular fare of cents.''
A petition from the Central Labor
union, OF this city, was read. asking for
the repeal of the Scent clause, provided
the company would adopt the six tickets
Tor quarter plan and the transfer sys-
tenn.
Chairman Yoerg stated that INQUIRIES
had been sent to different cities regard
ing the methods and business system OF
street railway companies, and he read
the responses. which WERE as follows:
Denver, COi.-NO cable line: regular
c7SNho CDCdp GChStS 10 SCHOOL
teachers and children;
ABOUT FORTY MILES OF TRACK.
Cleveland, O.-Five-cent fare; TWEEN
| ty-tWo tickets for 81.
Kansas City-Five-cent fare; fran
chlSe requires company to run cars
from $50 a. m. until midnight, with in
tervals OF five minutes between cars be-
tween $50 and 10 p. H., and ten min
| uteS thereafter; no communication tick
| cts.
st. Louis-Fiye cents for adults and
| 21s cents for children under twelve
| years OF age; companies required to-
sell twenty-five tickets for 81; no COM
mutation tickets; one company'S tick
cts good over any other line in the CITY !:
all lines making money.
| Detroit, Mich.-Flve cents fare; have
transfer tickets; sell Communication tick
cts; every company paying good profits.
| Omaha-Five cents fare; transfers
made where lines intercept; communal
ton tickets to children: over LOCO pas
sengers carried July4. -,,a-
lndianapolis-One system, but franz
chise has been granted to electric rail-
Way;5 cents fare; complete transfer
| system.
Chairman Yoerg said that in Mil
waukee they sold twenty-five tickets for
81, and had transfer system.
Aid. Gehan spoke in favor of a trans
fer system. Col. Barr asked, ''Who is
going to pay the eXpenses?" Aid. Gull
len explained that it would necessitate
a man or two at each transfer station
with additional expenditure.
The six tickets for quarter question
was discussed by Chairman Yoerg and
| Col. Barr. The latter explained that
the started out first with the idea of
seven cent fares, but they dropped to
| hve cents. and almost lost sight of the
three-cent fare. ''And l tell you.n he
added, 1--WE are now hauling passengers
on some lines in this city who are
| COSTING US TWENTY-FIVE CENTS
APIECE +"
Mr.. Lindcke was willing to accede
to the repeal of the three-cent fare, pro-
viding the company would concede the
SIX tickets for quarter system.
| Chairman Yoerg stated that the COM
mittee would be unanimous for the
repeal of the three-cent clause, if the
company would agree to cOncede six
tickets for a quarter, and to adopt the
transfer method.
1--WE would be glad to do it if we could
afford it, responded Col. Barr.
"HOw many transfer stations would
it require in the city?" asked Aid,
| Hamm.
Col. Barr-Probably six or eight.
Aid. Hamm-And one OF two men at
each transfer would easily run ND an
additional expenditure of about $40
daily.
City Attorney Murray said it resolved
itself down to question of getting the
| East Seventh street cable line. Can't.
| Berkey emphaticaily assured him that
cable line would ruin Seventh street
as business thoroughfare; that it had
driven all travel off Fourth street al
ready.
Chairman Yoerg asked: ssCoI. Barr.
will you give up your exclusive fran
chise ii we agree to repeal the three
cent clauSe?
Col. Barr-No, sir; 1 haven't the
power.
Aid. Hamm-Summit avenue to be
excepted is not any concession, in nv
| opinion. The East Seventh cable line
is the main thing, and the people on
DaytOD'S bluff are all unanimous upon
that point.
Talk upon how the company intended
to reach DaytOn'S bluff while the line
| was in progress of construction then
took up some time. 1t developed that
the company intended to commence the
line at both ends, and complete the por-
ton between Wabasha and jackson
| first, the street cars running around
| BY WAY OF FIFTH STREET.
Aid. Cullen asked Col. Barr if he
would concede six tickets for quarter.
Col. Barr-No. sir.
Aid. Cullen-Will you Soneede the
transfer?
| Col. Barr-No, sir.
Them said Aid. Cullen to the COM
mittee, ''all we can do is to eliminate the
Scent clause. L move that the Scent
clause be repealed" Aid. Hamm sec
Onded the motion. 1t was lost by vote
of to 4, Aid. Hamm and Cullen voting