The Indianapolis journal., 1888-07-31
Giving COgent Reasons for Their Objections,
but the Tories Decline to Make q Change
and Are Sustained by the House.
Parnell Takes an Active Part in the De-
bate, Talking Often and Earnestly.
Fears that Tippoo Tbs Rashness May Have
Brought Disaster Upon Stanley-Emperor
William at COpenhagen-CabIe Notes.
THE NEW IRISH TRIBUNAL.
Justice Day Retaiued in the Commissio
Despite Parnsll,s Protest.

went into committee tonight on the bill to in
veatigate the charges against Mr.. Parnell. Mr.
Sexton moved TO increase the number Of judges
In the commission TO FIVE. II 1t was to inquire
into the whole history of the National League,
extending over a period of nine years, and as
the league embraced members IN every part of
the world, 1t would take several years before
the inquiry could be finished. Much evidence
might havs'to be sought abroad. The three
judges were not sufficient unless the inquiry
were limited.
Mr.. Matthews, in reply, said that the govern
ment could not accept the amendment, and that
Mr.. Sexton has exaggerated the task before the
commission. Doubtless the course of the in
curry would lead to Investigations abroad; but
there would be no difficulty in taking such evil
dence. There would be nothing gained by in
creasing the number Of judges.
Mr.. Sexton then reminded Mr. Matthews that
the commission dealt with charges for murder
and outrage and that everything might turn up-
on examination Of witnesses in New York and
Australia. He had nothing to say against two
OF the commissioners. but he was surprised at
the nomination Of Justice Day after his conduct
during the inquiry into the Belfast riots
Mr.. Anderson said he astonished that the
government dared to propose tribunal to have
power to appoint other commissioners to take
evidence abroad.
Mr. Parnell urged the House to recollect that
they were discussing q proposal to provide a
substitute for the jury; while 10 England q jury
of twelve was always provided, it was proposed
that the settlement OF important far-reaching
Irish issues be involved in an inquiry to depend
upon the verdict Of two men. There was
no precedent for the commission. He denied
that it was any favor 10 the Irish members; on
the contrary. 1t was waving their ordinary po-
sition citizens in accepting the commission.
They put the public under an obligation. While
the inquiry was pending he ought to. be pro-
tected from press attacks. The leading London
Conservative paper of to day had declared that
the question was no longer as to his innocence
or guilt but as to the best means to prove him
guilty. Was he to be held responsible for
everything Patrick Ford said or did in America.
while the government were not responsible for
what their organs didl Irish chesrs.l
Mr. Labouehsrs called in question Justice
Days fitness TO serve on tho commission, be-
cause. in q recent trial OF three Irish men for
assault, held in Liverpool. Justice Day had said
such dastardly, cowardly and brutal crime
could not have happened in England. except
among the Irish.
The Speaker reminded Mr.. Lsbouchere that
the House not discussing the qualif-
cations of the members Of the commission.
Mr.. Labouchere. in reply, explained that he
desired to show the necessity Of neutral izing
the influence OF Justice Day by increasing the
number of judges.
The Amendments was then voted down by a
majority OF 43 votes, the vote standing 100 yeas
and 233 nays.
In replying to a number of questions from the
Parnellites, Mr. Baifour defended the fitness Of
DR.. Barr to inspect Irish political prisoners. He
| would not suspend him. An English doctor was
selected to visit the Irish prisoners because
Irish doctors would be subjected TO the severest
| intimidations. The verdict of the Mitchelstown
jury was entirely uuwarranted. Every effort
would be made to bring the real truth about the
| Vaudeville case before the country.
Replying to the suggestion Of Mr. Parnell, the
| Solicitor-generalf for Ireland agreedoto adjourn
the trial of Mr.. O'Kelly to enable him to vote on
| the commission bill.
Mr.. Smith proposed that the commission con-
sist OF Justices Hannen, Day and Smith.
Mr.. Labouchere protested against the selec-
| ton of Justice Day
7. F. OConnor suggested that the government
| substitute another English judge. He said there
was not single judge known as having sympa-
thy with those they were to try.
Mr.. Smith said he believed that the Judges
named had the complete approval Of the Eng
lish bar and every body of judicial knowledge
Mr.. Goschen explained that the government
had selected these judges as non-politcal parties
who had never been in Parliament He trusted
that the house would indorse this view They
were good judges and thoroughly reliable for
| impartality.
Mr.. John Morley said that he quite under
| stood the governments difficulty in altering the
composition OF the commission: but that made
| no difference. The fact was that it had been in
| judiciously selected. The inquiry was not ex-
| pected to act as II he were on the bench Moth
| ing had been said against Justices Haunen and
Smith. Their impsrtiality was unqusstionsd.
| Regarding Justice Day, he said he had received
letter from an absolutely reliable source a
gentleman having peculiar means of knowing
i Justice Days mind upon Irish affairs and
he had told Mr. Smith the name Of his In
formsnt, who wrote that Justice Day was a
| man OF the seventeenth century in his views
| concerning Catholics. Like Toruuemada, he
| was q Tory Of the hieh-fyer non n-juror type.
de nightly rails against Mr. Parnell and his
friends: He regards them as infidels and rebels,
and as led astrsy by Catholic nation. He be-
iieves them guilty of any crime. [Cries of
"Name.'l Mr. Morley said he would not pub
licy give the name. he proved his good faith
by telling Mr.. Smith. Surely in the face of a
| IeeunS Oh tndt huu toward Justice Day the gov
eminent would not retain him on the commits
sion. against which there ought to be no whisper
| raised. He must vote against the nomination.
Mr.. Bsfour held that Mr.. Morley had gone
too far to maintain any reticencs about the
writer of the letter. Justice Day had a right to
ask the name OF Dis traducer. The government
selected Justice Day as a man who was never
| associated with party, whose conduct on the
bench proved that he was qualified to execute
| the arduous duties OF commissioner. Mr.
| Morley had played upon the word judicial in
saying that the commission was no. strictly a
judicial tribunal. True. the procedure of the
| commission would differ from that of an ordi-
nary tribunal. but il would not differ as regards
| the judicial spirit Justice Day was man of
| honor. and showed in accepting the post that he
was not rendered incapable by any previous
action or statement approaching the questions
| with which the commission had 10 deal
Viscount Wolmer, Liberal Upionist protested
against the action OF Mr. Morley in reading an
anonymous letter maligning a member Of the
| commission.
Mr. Morley assured the House there was
nothing sinister In his Withholding the name OF
| his correspondent The person In question was
| q colleague OF Justice Day upon the Belfast
riot commission. and WAS q barrister named
Adams. lCheers
Mr.. Gladstone said hs felt that il was his
| duty 10 support Mr. Morley. After informing
the government regarding Justice Days bias
and giving them Q ehance 10 alter the commits
/ sion, il was right, when they refused to make q
change. TO communicate the fscts 70 Parliament