Delaware gazette and state journal. (Wilmington, Del.) 1883-1902, 1888-10-11
IN UHMAN INTERVIEWED.
Ais Criticism OF Ine parirt ssfIG OF
the Senate,


the Senate.
PITTsBuRG, Oct. G The Dispatch pub-
fishes the following interview with Judge
Thurman:
The Dispatch representative boarded
Judge Thurman's car at Washington, Pa,
and during the journey to Pittsburg had
a pleasant chat with the Old Roman
Just as he left Washington.
Judge Thurman--"I am sorry could
not see this town by daylight. In my
earlier days often passed through Wssh-
ington on stage coaches. II was pretty
town then, and suppose it has improved
very much in the lapse OF years"
''What do you think OF the Senate
Tariff bill?"
t'It is badly planned measure and
only aRgravates the evil. / notice they
copy after the Mills bill very largely.
haven't read it in its entirety, but know
enough about it to say that it is not
nearly as good measure as the Mills bill.
II is nothing more than bid for votes.
They keep up the tariff on manufactured
articles to capture the vote Of the manu-
tactuIer and likewise the duty is pre-
served On raw materials 10 please the
farmers, II ia badly mixed affair. /
saw somewhere that General lHasrGson
said either in his message or in one OF
his speeches. ! am not sure which, that
there was no necessity to bother about
the surplus, but see the Republican
senators differ with him. They claim
that their bill will reduce the surplus
about $TS, 000, GOO. You see they are
not consistent. Why should the p3or
man pay heavy tax on his clothing, 5his
blankets and what he eats There is no
sense in so much taxation. Tho principal
is wrong and then to deceive tho people
they state that the duty is Levied at SO
much per square yard, sd valorepn. How
many people are there who understand
that ~
''What do you thiuk Of Mr.. Blaine's
statement made ct Detroit ahcut PEesi-
dent Clevsland's use of the vsto power ~
swell, don't think anything about it.
I hayo heard what MIR. Blaine asserted Of
oourse, but what does he mean? Nix.
Cleveland has signed moro pension bills
than any other President ever in office,
and what IL he has vetoed 900 or 800 or
whatever Mr.. Blaine said? Granted that
he has signed more in proportion than all
the other Presidents together. l hav0
nob counted up tne NUMBER V6toeu OF
signed or don't care STRAW about if, but
why didn't no Senate pass those bills
over his veto il they wanted them to pass
They had tho power to do it and yet they
did nothing at all. The law requires
thst the SENATE shall consider all such
bills and If they don't do it, who is to
blame?"
Speaking Of trusts, Mr. Thurman said:
"Mr. Blaine says thst trusts are private
affairs and neither the President nor the
people hnye anything to do with them,
but John Sherman doesn't think so. He
introduced a bill in the Senate to have
them suppressed. In England the COM
mon law would wipe them out. Here
they have grown up through the avari-
oiousneEs Of nan, and the protection pol
icy does muoh to foster them do not
say that they are the direct outgrowth Of
tie system Of protection, hut the plan of
levying excessive duties has helped them.
Trusts are made for the purpose Of put
ting up prices. They have become grind.
ing monopolies and ths laws of the land
should be enforced against then."
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