New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-08-22
g that / ever did in my

that's the meanest thing that ever did in my
life Much laughter)
Senator Fassett-Dd be tell you what forced him 70
this postioni
Mr. MccuIlOh-Hs told me afterward. He said You
know now. by tho Flynn letter. that 'hey hao mo os
The throat"
senator Fsssett-who did he mean by " they'f
Mr. Mccunoh-Judge Muller and the Governor.
AT the afternoon session Mr.. McCulloh de-
mission DE Lancey Nicoll examined him.
lie said that part Of his duties as secretary mad
been TO set values on condemned land. AT shaft
Sa, ne ae IL Insurance Company at 5000, and
only 81 0O6 was fixed BY the Board Of Estimate
and Apportionment lie was noty qaesu M,nSi
and the chairman. and his explanation was that
only seven acres bad been acquired instead OF
ten, aud that the three left out were Of greater
value than the rest
In another case, the Aaueduct Commission
proposed 10 pay 81 $500 for the construction OF
4 900 feet OF new line for the New-York and
New-England Railroad in place Of some that
would be submerged. A report on the subject
by Mr.. Church called for $4,000: but s2.5O0
was allowed for counsel fees Mr.. McCulloh was
present when Holman Clark. the contractor, and
Mr. Starbuck who were directors of the railway,
and Mr.. Foster, their counsel acted in the matter,
and Commissioners Dowd Spencer and Barnes
agreed at q meeting TO pay them the sum sug-
ecsted McSsrs Rldgway and Fish were not present
and they afterwaId opposed IT. The witness ness
made and reported an estimate which nxed
So, 233 sum that would cover all the eX-
penses. In fact he had remarked that he wouId
"Se to resign and take the contract for $50, OO0,
but at the meeting he had no say However,
the Transaction died before its maturity on ac-
count Of the opposition Of some of the commits
sioners and the realization Of the fact that the
Board Of Estimate and Apporuonrent would not
S npisrS at AbanT in the Winter Of ss and pro-
ceeded TO acquire the property under It's proHi,
siops. The cost would now probably be reduced
80 about $50, 900.
Mr. GRACEs PART IN THE BUSINESS.
Mr. NicOll wanted 20 hear great deal more
about the cx-secretary's loss Of his office :;
SO he turned his attention 10 that again.
Q.-when did you nrst hear Of Mayor crace's scheme
70 remove from the secretaryshipf Am October
1885 months before the reorganization OF the
Aoueduct while Grace was member Of the Commission
Q.-was Loew friend Of Grace1 A. (expressively)-
uumph., Much lauehter)
O.-what did tell you about It'll Ale said II
represented to him TO be the wish OF Governor Hin
that should 20 and that didn't believe anything Of
the kind He told me and see Judge Spencer,
who. he thought had also been approached heard
from Mr. Loew Grace and Thompson wanted to get
q friend OF Grace in.
o-who was that tri.ndi Al understand IL was .
gentleman Of the Of Lully. who occupies posi-
ton as auditor connection with tho Aoueduct
o-wbat are his initialsi A.-Julius csssari tAoAr'
Of lauehter)
o-Hsd You been performing your duties weli A.
Yes sir to the OF my ability
Q.-Were any reasons assigned why Grace wanted 70
put you QUIT A.-None.
O.-Thc scheme successful A.-No. Judge
would In with it, though President
Cleveland Washington and asked him to DO So
Odd Grace further EFFORT 10 get Mr.. Lully
I'M Al did OF any dropped It,
Gle dropped IL you mean. A-No 1 TOOK no
further In terest In IT, with work, ana le
Grace 60 Oh scheminG II he wanted TO. Laushter)
o.-Mr. Grace himself got out before you did' A.
Gaughng)-YeS
parrp
have the witness state reason for traces az
tempts. The chairman suggested that Grace
wanted "McCulloh IS, Caesar more" Laugh
ter At last the witness said that Grace was m
imical 10 him. and that the cnmlV an edateu hl'
el ction as Mayor lie WIS in railroad com
pony where he generally took dihcren, view, IRON
Grace, and b. was also trlcnd oil May EusoiA
who no friend Of Mr. Grace
HOW HE WAS FINALLY oUsTED
As to the next and successful try at him, Of
which he had already told something, NJ. Nc
Culloh added that Franklin Edison, George Lyon
Aaron F. vanlerpoel and ex-Judge Ash
bel Green had al given him warn
ing that it was part OF the plan
of reorganization that he should go SO he took II
coolly and Judge LaccmNe had told HIN OF tn:
IullV movem Mt. while the bill was penllng, Du'
later b., gn hered from bis other lnfornants ina
Mr. Shee an. the Assemblym brother, was inc
new candidate for office. MI RldSway resG Gnu
ton moving the witness WIS Oh the ground thai
lie lived IN New-Jersey, and not in New ork, ahu
Mr. MCCulloh had ingenuousiy asked II IL WASH
Mr. Sheehan Of Buffalo, that WAS appointed IL
his place but was assured it was Mr. Sheehsn
Of New York.
Mr. Nicoll lastly ellie ted from the witness that
John B-unton i c.. the finn from the West who
got the contract for Sections and a. secured II
az the instance Of Mayor Grace whose private
5 cretary. Richard J. Morrison had Oh interest II
the firm
Fr derrick W Watkins, engineer. formerly II
charg Of Division No, 6, gave evidence mainly o.
technical nature.
The invesuga CATION will be resumed to-day at II
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