Butler citizen. [volume] (Butler, Pa.) 1877-1922, 1888-07-06
IngerSoll Talks Politics.

Col. Ingersoll in brief interview
about the Democratic candidates and
platform says of Cleveland;
81 do not regard Cleveland as per
sonally popular He has done moth
ing, so far as know, calculated to
endear him to the popular heart.
-Four years ago he was distinctly op
posed TO a second term. lie was then
satisfied that no man should be elect
ed more than once. In little while
be began 10 hope for a second term,
and gradually the civil service notion
faded from his mind. Mr.. Cleveland
saw that he was in danger of being
left with no supporters except few
who thought themselves too respect
able to really join the Democratic
party. SO for the last two years,
and especially for the last year, he
turned his attention to pacifying the
real Democratic party.
Another great mistake, l think,
has been made by Mr.. Cleveland. He
seems to have taken the greatest de-
light in vetoing pension bills, and
they seem to be about the only bills
that he has examined, and he has ex-
amiued them as lawyer would the
declaration, brief or plea of his oppo
nent. He has sought for technical
tiles, to the end that be might veto
these bills. By this course he has
lost the soldier vote, and there is no
way to regain it. lie has shown
about the same feeling toward the
soldier now that he did during the
war
The principal vestige of monarchy
or despotism in our constitution is the
veto power, and this has been more
literally used by Mr.. Cleveland than
by any other president. This shows
the nature Of the man and how mar
row he is and through what a small
intellectual aperture he views ii ,
world
"Now as to Senator Thurman.
During the war he occupied substan-
tally the same position occupied by
Mr.. Cleveland. He was opposed to
putting down the rebellion by force,
and as [ remember it, he rather justi-
fed the people of the south for going
with their people.
"No matter how much respectable.
ity he adds to the ticket, | do not be-
lieve that he will give any strength
to it. | think the failure to nominate
Gray or some other good man from
that state will lose Indiana"
"Do you think the nominations
have been well received throughout
the United States 2"
"Not as we'll as in England. | see
that all the Tory papers regard the
nomination as excelent-especially
that of Cleveland. Every English
mau who wants Ireland turned into
penitentiary and every 1rishman
to be treated as a convict, is delight
ed with the action of the st. Louis
convention. England knows what
she wants. Her market is growing
small If she could see our factories
still and dead; if she could put out
the fires of our furnaces and forgers,
there would come to her the greatest
prosperity she has ever known. She
would fatten on our mistortunes-
grow rich and powerful and arrogant
upon our poverty. We would be-
come her servants. We would raise
the raw material with ignorant labor
and allow her children to reap all the
profits of its manufacture, and in the
meantime to become intelligent and
cultured while We grow poor and
ignorant. OF course the English
people expect all the Irish in the
United States to elect the president
that they the English Tories desire,
and while they are prosecuting Irish
Catholics IN Ireland, they expect
their children will do their best to in
augurate and carry out al English
policy in the United States"
"What DO you think of the Demo-
cratic platform ?'
"Mr Watterson was kind enough
to say that before they took the roof
off the house they were going to give
the occupants chance to get out By
the house | suppose he means the
great workshop of America. By the
roof he means protection; and by the
occupants the mechanics. lie is not
going to turn them out at once, nor
take the roof off in an instant, but
this is to be done gradually.
Now, understand me, | do not
believe tha the Democrats think that
free trade would result in disaster
Their minds are so constituted that
they really believe that free trade
woald be great blessing. | am not
calling in question their honesty. [
am simply disputing the correctness
Of their theory.
"Fiue phrases in the Democratic
platform will not deceive the people
of this country. The American me-
cdanic and farmer already has mar
ket of 1000, 600 of people, and, as
said before, the best market in the
world. This country is now so rich,
so prosperous, that it is the greatest
market of the earth, even for lnXuries.
1t is the best market for the pictures,
for works of art 1t is the best mar
ket for music and song. 1t is the
best market for dramatic genius, and
it is the best market for skilled labor,
and in this country to-day the poor
man has the best cbance-he can look
forward TO becoming the proprietor of
home, of some land, to independence,
to respectability, and to an old age
without want and without disgrace.
He couldn't do that if placed in COM
petition with the pauper labor Of
Europe"
Political.
This is from Henry George, mark
you: IF Mr.. Cleveland is re elected,
as with courage | believe he will be,
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