New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-04-21
MARSH AFFIRMS HIS FAITH
A DAYLIGHT sEANcE IN THE ToMBs.
MADAME DIss DEBAR AGREES TO BE "sUB
jet" FOR ooNJURER, WHO MANAGES TO
DECEIVE THE NEW PARKS CoMMIS-
sIoNER-TEsTIMoNY IN THE

bIoNER-TESTIM0NY IN THE
CONSPIRACY CASE.
The continued examination in the Diss Debar
conspiracy case yesterday afternoon was series
OF sensational episodes. In anticipation of this,
the Special Sessions room in the Tombs was
crowded to the door by an audience Of the most
heterogeneous description, in which were repre-
sentatives Of all sorts and conditions of men, from
Robert Hilliard, the actor, to Chinaman. The
spiritualists made strong muster, and through
out the proceedings did not hesitate to make their
presence known by their expressions OF approval
or dissent And as to those proceedings surely
there has seldom been such proceedings in any
court in New-York. A professional conjurer's
trick was offered in evidence; brilliant New
York lawyer declared on his solemn oath that
spirit scribes had written for him, and that spOok
artists had painted for him; and the hour of adj
journment found the court room in q hubbub
with everybody craning and crushing and stand
ing on tables and chairs to catch glimpse of tho
conjurer trying to catch the lawyer by sleight
of-hand performance at the Justices desk
Justice Kilbreth was in his seat several minutes
before the prisoners were brought in. Madame
Diss Debar escorted by keeper, swept to her
seat like the queen of ballroom. The men fol-
lowed her meelSly and somewhat dejectedly. Mr.
Howe and Mr. Hummel and Mr.. Townsend and
ex-senator Boyd sat down. as was fitting in the
circumstances, on different sides of the inner rail-
Ing. Mr. Howe looked all around and Mr. Hum
mel looked all around, and neither could see any
of the pictures that had been promised. Mr.
Howe strai ghtway asked for an explanation
and Mr.. Townsend's excuses being decidedly un-
satisfactory, applied for order of court to have
them materialized at the next session, remarlxing
that there could be " no iugglery with Justice
Judge KElicth-It was presumed that the pictures
would be brought hero without sny positive orier Of
court but there may have been misunderstanding
Mr.. Howell will delay the case. OF course but
It will change the order Of pioof question put TO
witness Randolph Is to stand until the pictures
produced.
TESTIMONY OF INSPECTOR BYRNEs.
Inspector Byrnes then took the stand. lie re-
peated tine conversation that he had with Madame
Diss Debar while she in his care at Police
Headquarters She had, he said, shown him
number of letters she had received from prominent
New-Yorke She had asked his advice as TO
the lawyer she should employ, and then in burst
of trustfulness confded to him that Mr. Marsh
was mean about money" and that he preferred
to deed property her rather than give her sIuns
of ready cash, and that she, had refused the gift
of some property in Newport because she had eX-
perienced so much worrlment by the talk which
the transfer of the Madison-ave house occasioned
Mr. Howe-Dld she say she tried to get money from
hint
Inspector Bymes-She did, Sir
Mr.. Townsend said he would not cross-examino
the witness.
Justice KiIbreth-YOu don't wans the Inspector any
Mr. Howe: 1 do noL sir. unless he wants me- ana L
hope he never vii
AN ILL sIoNlsT. MAGICIAN AND CoNJURER
Inspector Byrnes then made way for successor
in the wtness-stand, the announcement Oh whose
name caused no little astonishment and excite
ment
Carl Hertz!np called Mr. Howe. SLIM
dapper little man. with slight mustache, stepped
m and WAS sworn Mr.. Hummel relieved MS
martinez and took turn as catechlst
o-Whsts your business Mr. HeGzi Al am an
nlusonist magician and cOniurer. have been In tho
profession eleven years
Q-Are you a splritualisti A.-No. sir
Q-Do you know anything about what is alleged 70 Do
spirituallsmi Al know little about It,
o-po you know nythng OF the trick Of commlnlca'
ton alleged to come from spiritual world to thisi A
perform those tricks myselfthat is the communications
are supposed to come from the spirit world
Q-Is 1t or is it not trckl A.-The one that per'
form is
Q.-of what does It consist
The witness explained, and then at Mr.. Hum
melrs invitation demonstrated. lie eoC Ho
ments grace IN which To prepare linen ne IN
yited any one in the room TO be a SuDJecu.
bashful glow sufuSed itself all over tne auuenEe
and no one was found willing to assist MI.
Hertz had forcseen the emergency, and spoke to
Mr. Hummel who called out:
Is Mrs. Hertz in court Z? 49,,
There was whisper and murmur hlSe the nuIn
OF bees in swarming time, ana aelcate nUodo on
woman. with golden hair, who was instantly rS re-,
gnzed as the pretty th crowd and Went
on the stand beside her husband =, ,r,,
Is Mr. Marsh in court?' asked Mr, NV nen1lnsl nnca-
Mr.. Marsh mad not arrived yen puO 0n''O WV
stoned no delay.
WRITING FOUND ON BLANK PAPER
Tho witness handed his wife piece OF paper.
r. was Llank. She said it was, everybody coulu
coo that r. was. and Justice Kilbreth stated posi-
lively that it was. ,,-o.od
Now fold it-onoe, twice, thrice directed
tbe coniurer TO the subject Place IL upon your
forehead Hal / see light, as we say anonsSO
Tho SniritnaIists Now unfold the paper and look
at it.' .;.inr
Mrs. Hertz did so She said there was wrltins
on it,
What is it?"
Luther Z. Marsh-Editha' -,.,
Mr. Hummel-Did that come from the spi. p,,s ax M
The Witpess-If L were tell the truth "ouiu SOY w
Howe &, Uummel were not content WIN WIN S Slo
experiment. Another subject was c"i1S M. De.
There was moments pause. niaeii .ainiS With the
bar who had been watching Une "iDh iCDhiennred TO
keenest interest leaned over ana "hsp'i0N ~
Madame Diss Debar wishes to try al teSI Sic b,
and with heaving bosom she marcnSar n,0 roraby IF
witness stand assembled, and sat d6wh h had left
in the chair She insisted at she should PIo 46c
vide the paper and that she aTons shoGa to do that
paper. - always allow my patrons nxnained in Mr..
efta materially Sney fS objected these terms lie naG
tanned that he had come to do 81 fooled by al
to show how easily people nst oc OGst tSet it was
legged spirit messages; and he insSteu en%O Mad.
anne Dss Debar claimed victory .asd ara wf rest pst
voice bubbing over with gee, gufigo gaig@ Of spirit
may uSI GEaG1 GS my TRen with stately step and slow
she strobe to her seat while her id Mr iTmmel
chueked in chorus. Humphl saiud sadsm an And the
s%sb Ws " wss ON the other side Mr. Boyd ected
from the witness that be was cIenV tan SoTn I,
Hummel and he was allowed TO Seep .w.crp
MADAME MADE LOVE TO HEN ]"- 49, -
James W. Randolph was neAD puV ~ - 80