New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-09-15
A TALK WITH Mr.. DEPEW.
ENGLISH FREE TRADERS ARE WARY.
THEY TALK LESS FOR c1EyELAN ,s EVER SSt WAN"

attention.
,bo Wished 70 t,u him how glad they were TO see
him, hack again There are few men who would give
an audience 70 rcportcrs under such circumstances nut
Mr. Depcw IS always goodnature lie c"auh' ma
time 10 talk in bis Office. but invited tribune I'po't'r
IN accompany him part of the way 10 fcchshh 'or
which place ne started on the i O'CLOCK IRAN Nh"c
Tho ,,a'n scd along smoothly over the wcllballastcd
,.a NJ D,Dcw told Of some Of the observations and
,m,,ress,on, gathered in his recent trip abroad lie
cniovcd exceptionally good opportunities for ascertain
in, the drift Of affairs abroad, for his ability ana
charming personality made him welcome guest in
every circle
~It i the first tlme.7 said Mr. Dcpcw, " within my
evn,rcnce that have found in England an Interest
q tcon intercst-in American Presidential campaign
srd General Information, more or less correct IN
,o,r 10 the issues. There is circle I'm which they
orc not discussed. The impression Is general
in England that the condition OF fhshsh
Industries would be greatly helped by tho election OF
Mr. cleveland Whether such would be the result
Or not that is their belief Interest is, Of course,
keenest among the manufacturers because they cX-
pet to profit most by his election There exists ID
England a most exaggerated idea of Mr. CleNelahuS
ability. craftsmanship and courage They THINK ua'
c is educating the American people TO accept correct
economic principles the risk Of sacrificing MS po-
ntcal life and that he displays degree Of devotion
70 his convictions unhcard of in what they regard as
thc purely trading conditions Of American politics.
THEY ARE ALL AFRAID OF Mr. BLAINE.
They think that Mr.. Blaine Is very dangerous
man for England-hosilc TO her best intcIests-ahu
that II Harrison were elected his influence would DO
so strong with the Administration that, in some way
England would suffer through it; that he would DO
what lie could TO prevent such revision or modica-
lion of the tariff laws as would give the English
manufacturers much freer access TO tho American
markets than they now enjoy. In short they Dc
licve that Ceveland's election viii put money IN
their pockets and that IIarrisOns Will not.
William Henry Ilurlbcu, the former Editor OF
sThe New York World who now resides in London
and has constituted himself sort OF general adviser
~ the british public concerning American affairs,
wrote a long letter 10 The London Times explaining
that Mr. Cleveland not fIcerader, but revenue
Ic,ormer that what he seeking TO accomplish was
such modification of the tariff laws a. would MAKE Inc
ouestion OF revenue the controlling factor and
eliminate the protective principle. But he addeu
a note of caution the effect that the unanimous
and iubant support given to Cleveland by the BnuSh
,ro,s was seriously hnderng him in this work. ana
that II Epgl!shmcn wanted him 10 succeed they Nouu
better Keep quiet and refrain from eXuung al inc
prospect of relief for English industries when Wouu
result from carrying into effect his revenue REFORM
views. British newspapers have to large extent
becded this advice But they none the less
watching the contest with the kcenest interest"
PRESIDENTIAL BLUsTER UNDERSTOOD.
allow was the retaliation message regarded IN
England - asked the reporter
Under ordinary circums the retaliation mes
sage would have aroused widcs pread alarm ana hds-
nation in Great Britain but, taken in consideration
with the political situation here, IT was regarded by
both the press and the people simply sharp and
iustfable political movement. the ground that
Mr. Blaine had made inrOads upon a portion oi Inc
Democratic vote which knows nothing OF pohucS
except hostility TO England, and that to bring these
voters back TO the fold Mr. Cleveland had 10 make
a pretcnce of boarding the British lion in his own
laptt at /
Mr. Cleveland will seriously undertake a policy OF
retaliation and meanwhile. for the sake of the revenue
reform legislation that be favoIs thcy are qnl'e
content 10 let him pose twster OF tho BRUSH
Hons tail"
The reporter next asked about the Home Rule Ques-
ton
"Fnclsh feeling IS so strong on that natter
said Mr. Dcpew that It has broken up social rela-
lions to an extent that cannot understand mere
The social influences in london are enormously III
tie majority on the side against Home Kue' lhcIc
are two chief grounds Of opposition TO II: first that
!; viii lead 10 Ireland becoming independent anu
formlus an alliance with foreign power bo>'lc
10 England. and. second that the irish have SHOWN no
capacity for self government, and that II the manage
rient of their own affairs were given 10 them ucS
would contscate The land and le-islaic against Inc
Irote,ianis m the North Of Ireland. believe that
when Nh Gladstone first proclaimed his policy OF
Ilor,e Eulc not on quarter of those who followed nm
believed that IT was a wise measure, but such was
his asccndancy among the people and so eminent MS
qualities of leadership that they had to stick to hm
Nor II safe say that they have all been cohVerei
10 the doctrine Of Home Rule. Ensshmen arc
ranging themselves on the side Of Home Rule because
tey are convinced that the demand for it Is Just
not because they arc afraid Of the consequences IL
f. denied Ii Parliament dissolved believe that
MI Gladstone would 90 into power Win enough
votes behind lin to carry out his plan.
WRONG IDEAS Oh IMsHANERlCANS COR
RECTED.
/ had half dozen talks with Eall spencer VINO
wa, Vlceroy for Ireland under the Gladstone Admin
!sraton at tine time when that Government Co1i'ioh
Acl was PUT into operation lie has become pro-
nounccd Home Ruler. lie said that on' sion5 sup
pot ol the opposition to IL was the Widesiedn DocI
that the IIi>l in America were always against the
Go, crnment opposed 20 the cause Of law ana oidef
that they were constant promoters Of corruption ana
disturbance ia politics: that they took part win inc
Anarchists. etc J showed him how erroneous was
this opinion; told h.m that when tho hshman came
here and plospcrcd be became conservative
81 law abiding citizen; pointed out to MN
that while the lrsAmcn in America loiH H,
a Britain, since Gladstone had become the Iead,r
o. ihe HON. Iur laN, hcS hau ceased To- pc IcN
tOraly and had rallied 10 the support Of Nh IIal-
ID stone and constitutional agitation. and were generously
subscribing money, not FOR as mantle but 10 suppof
81 legitimate uOli warfare. He replied that II me
q English could be made 70 perceive this If they could
"a gei 4 correct unders ahdhs oi "id IIShhch WtIc ~
81 America IL would prove most p9iehlh lac Tor III
!. iliieI IlDNc OAihOn IN IdNor OF li3lc HUN
81 Tie subject Of Home Ruiz naturally Jed up 10
81 Nj Gladstone. Nj Dcpew Lad some conversations
~ with ne Grand Ola Man Mr.. Gladstone he said
u al seventy n years Of age II one Of the most alert
81 and active men, physically ana ntcllec ually that
IA have ever net. there 10 be no impairment OF
"a any faculty nor does he suffer from weakness of any
"a kind lie talk, with fire and NlSOi, ana presents h,
# views with a lucdiy thar is simply marvellous. IL,
& Ven Informed American affairs that IS a. regards
"A their general driit.
81 A NEW AMERICAN HISTORY SUGGESTED.
Fl Among other things he said that there had been
81 no good history Of America written since DE Tocque
~ vile wrote about us and that The KY years that
zXhad interviewed since then furnished material for
most interesting history. The work ought be done
D. said, by man " ia the most accurate information
us and the philosophical faculty strongly developed
III Jle thought that an Engshman would be better fitted
81 10 undertake the task than American because he
81 would be fIeer from bias. told him that all that
81 j. Tocqucyile about our condition applied with