The morning news. [volume] (Savannah, Ga.) 1887-1900, 1888-10-27
JUDGE THURMAN AT LIMA
THE REPUBLICANS SHOWN UP AS
ARTFUL DODGERS.

AhIFUL DO DGERS.
Have Had Much the Best of the De-
bate on the Tariff Inconsistency Of
the Republican Attitude Toward the
Fisheries Treaty.
LIMA, O., Oct 26-Judge Thurman and
Speaker Carlisle left Cincinnati at 7;45
o'clock this morning in rain storm, and
arrived here in time for dinner. Afterward
they addressed the democracy, Judge Thur
man being the first speaker. He said he
would not make any extended speech upon
the tariff for one reason because Speaker
Carlisle, an expert upon this subject, was
to follow him. land for another reason, be-
cause the tariff has been under discussion
for about twelve months" Judge Thur
man then said:
think may safely assert to every man who
is willing to open his ears to the truth, that IN
this long discussion the democratic speakers
have had the victory on their side. (Great
cheering And that our opponents feel this TO
be so is very evident, it seems to me, from
several circumstances to which l will now
refer.
poDGED THE ISSUE
If they did not believe that the argument on
side, why in the world did they try and invent
another issue to talk abuut? Why did they re-
ject the fisheries treaty and attempt to make
out that the President of the United States had
not stood up in a bold and manly manner for
the interests of the people of the United States?
Why did they do it? Gentlemen, there is a way
of testing how sincere they were upon that sub
iect. the President negotiated a treaty i'll re-
gard to the fisheries. He sent it to the Senate
of the United States for treaty cannot be
come binding until it is confirmed, or ratified as
it is cal e by the Senate He sent it to the
Senate and the Senate rejected it. They would
not have it,
WOULDN'T HAVE A TREATY.
They gave him to understand that they would
have no treaty at all upon that subject. What
did that mean? Now, when you are in dispute
with foreign power you must settle it peaoea-
bly, by treaty or ignominously by backing down
or you must, if you re ject both these methods,
then settle it by arms, There is no other way to
do. They must negotiate and agree to back
"back-out," not they, on the contrary they
clamored and clanored about the President not
standing up for the rights of America, although
no man could show wherein he had in any par.
ticular surrendered those rights. They did not
say negotiate for they rejected the treaty.
DIDN'T WANT TO TREAT.
Now, if that treaty were not a good treaty,
the Senate has the power to amend it, if they
wanted to treat; if they wanted to preserve
peace with Great Britain; if they wanted to
have peace on all our borders, and thought that
the treaty needed amending, why, in the name
of heaven, didn't they amend itf [Great
cheering They would not amend the Gro sing
of st." or the dotting of an 81" but
they sternly, and with contumely, might say,
rejected the treaty. What then was the PreSi-
dent to do? They had told him by their action:
I'VE will have no treaty" That is what they
told him by their action; 'We won't back down
peg"
PRETENDED TO WANT WAR.
By the way, the treaty did not make us back
down peg, and so they told him in substance:
'The time has come when we must resort to
war-like measures to defend American rights +"
Well the President took them at their word.
He sent a message to them, and sent them the
word, ''As you are in fighting mood" do
not use his language, but give the substance
land you won't settle this peacefully; you
won't settle it so that there may be no blood
shed, so that there may be good will and peace
as you won't do this; as you ipsist
that we shall resort to power
and to force, give me the power Of
speak of retaliation; you speak of warlike meas
ures; you speak of vindicating the rights of
America by arms; give me the power to do
what you declare is the true policy Of the
United States"
PASSED BY THE HOUSE.
He sent that message to congress, and forth
with the democratic House of Representatives
passed bill that gave to the President all the
power that could be asked for to retalate upon
if they could be got by force. That bill
passed the House of Representatives with
out a single dissenting democratic vote.
Applause Now, what became of that
bill? 1t had to go to the Senate,
the same Senate that rejected the treaty, TINT
same Senate that clamored for retaliation, that
same Senate that denounced the Presinent and
Secretary of State as succumbing to Great
Britain-it went TO that Senate, and what did
that Senate do? Instead of passing it, they
sentit to their committee ON foreign affairs
How long ago, Mr.. Speaker?
Mr.. Csrlise--a month ago.
Judge Thurman--a month ago. they sent it
there and there it sleeps the sleep that kno VS.
no waking. [Great applause
SORRY SPECTACLE.
Now want TO know what kind Of spectacle is
presented by the greatest republican leaders in
the land the subject of foreign affairs.
They won't make a treaty, they won't back
out and they won't fight Laughter:l Oh, no.
travel around the United States abusing the
Democratic party without stint than to have
these retaliatory measures that might bring
about war LApppals,uusSe.l Now ,Sds when they
ject, then came up the Chinese ques-
tion. The President had made another
treaty upon this gu, stion, and while they did
treaty, yet, by an amendment which caused It's
rejection by the Chinese government, they
hoped the President would be deprived of the
credit due him. He thought with other men in
the United States, and was one Of them,
and l was one of the first of them
for / expressed my opinions fully
to my fellow citizens in 1870 at Clncipnati Ave
years before the California legislature petit
toned congress upon the subject of Chinese
immigration.
NOT oPENT TO MIsCoNsTRUcTIoN.
I said then what say to-day that the heather
Chinee is not O welcome or useful person n
the United States. Great cheering had not
the same objection that Bret Hart and Bill
Nye and honest "Jeems" had that he
cheated at euchre [laughterl, for never play
euchre or any other game OF cards. That was
not my objection to him at all, | thought that
il he could get the best of those fellows out
there In my favorite state Of California, say
favorite not because T. is my fsyorite
above ,ts sais 9s9eFs oe' ne s very yts6SSSs fSyST
that IL he could beat these fellows out there at
cards he did not deserve to be tossed 10
blanket as they did toss the heathen Chinee.
Renewed laughter But did not think that
he was a desirable acquisition. had gone
through the Chinese quarter in San
Francisco l had seen him there
in all his rags and his filth,
had been In joss house, which they call
temple; had seen what he calls religion, and
SO help me God, although hope am as char
countries as any man ought to be, / could not
say Ia my own conscience that this Is a good
man to bring into the United States Applause.
Very well. the democratic House OF Representa-
tives was OF that same opinion, and so they
passed a bill to exclude Chinese from settlement
Ia this country That bill passed the House on
the very day Il was introduced, IL my memory
is not at fault
sEHT TO THE SENATE.