The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1888-09-11

1r0aN, pelUOu loI lIte SlaliN u iaiiO
for the erection Of q charitable institution,
recommending that the prayer OF the petit
ton be granted. and submitting draft OF
3 bin 70 carry out that object. Accepted
and laid on the table 10 be considered with
the bill
NEw BILL.
Noble Dole introduced bill: authoriz-
Ing the Minister of the Interior to convey
TO Trustees. real estate in the District of
Honolulu. in furthersnce OF the conStruc-
ZION Of buildings for the charitable accom-
mediation Of INDECENT persons OF foreign
birth and descent.
The same Noble moved suspension OF
the rules TO the effect that the bill be not
printed. Carried.
ORDER OF THE DAY.
Internal TaxeS-Third reading OF the
bill to amend Sec. y. tax laws OF 1886 and
1852. Passed.
Ramie.-Ihlrd reading OF the ramle bill.
Passed.
Appropriation Bin.-Second reading OF
the Appropriation Bill IN Committee OF the
Whole. Rep. {. Brown in the chair.
Circuit udge, Maui, 5000, and travelling
expenses $500.
Minister Ashford moved $500, and ira
Yelling expenses $500.
Noble Nsterhouse moved the items pass
ss IN the bill. Carried
Paw OF Tax Assessors and Tax Collectors
Minister Ashford moved insertion Of
amended items. but before action was
taken thereon. the Committee rose and the
House resumed
FOURTH VETO CONSIDERED.
AIN O'Clock. the consideration OF the
veto message on the Coffee Bill, read on
the 22nd Aug. wsS taken up IN accordance
with the resolutions adopted then and also
On the Slst
Noble smith asked # il would not be
proper to have : statement from the Cabl-
net as 10 what advice had been given his
Majesty on the bill
Minister Thurston Ssid that since the in
disposition Of the Minister o. Foreign
Affairs. he had been representing the Cabl-
oet in presenting bills 10 His Majesty for
signature When the coffee bill was pre-
scented. with 5 number Of Others, HIS
Majesty was engaged with company be
had no conversation with. His Majesty ~
that time. 4 few days later, he presented
some other bills. and had . consultation
with HIS Majesty on the bills presented 10
him. snd asked him II there as suy cues
zion OF information he wished. he said no.
/ particularly called his attention 10 this
bill. and asked HIM II. he hsd gwen II con
siderauOu lie said that he had not.
talked the matter over 81 length with him.
He agreed with me IN almost everything !
said on the subject. snd gave no Intlmsuon
that be Gisspproved 81 the measure This
was al Il 80 :. u. At 80 p N the veto
message came into the House. The veto Is
without the knowledge, without the con
sent, ana contrary 70 the SdVlce OF The
Cabinet
Rep. {. Brown said the bia hsd been dis
cussei thoroughly on is second residing,
. = .f e. her
INTO its merits. He moved II become lsw
Notwithstanding the veto.
Noble Wi6enann said the oil HsS neither
more nor less than : pet scheme OF the
Minister Of Interior, who had managed 10
get The other members OF the Cabinet 10
icin with him. He wsS not present when
the bill passed. but he understood that II
had passed by 8 bare ma OrlIy OF Ministers
votes ANY member who votes against
sustaining this veto on the laeA mai lne
Cabinet must SGYlSe with respect 10 the
veto viii Stultifv himself / am not going
10 Stuluiiy myself.
Rep. Nakaleka took issue with the Minis
ter of Interior in the view that THIS Is :
measure Tor opening Up new industry.
lis not new Coffee has been cultivated
here many. wears. Il i simply this. thai =
man comes here from other countries
where he SAYS he has been successful IN
which was included IN the report OF the
Minister Of Interior. Il the gentleman
met with success IN other countries he
ought 70 have remained there instead o.
coming out here 10 the Sandwich Islands
Noble Smith said. This i the most I'M
portant occasion q the session Sna one Of
The most significant since The memorable
Slrh OF June Of last year l would that !
were gifted With elo9Uence, Snd possessed
power 10 move the hearts Of men. In
considering the question before Us, the
Ministers. individuals, snd personal ieel-
rnrS. fade out OF sight, Every patriotic
impulse in me i stirred. Personal amol-
non ana hopes and fears become insignia
cant IN The presence Of 5 question which 50
vitality affects the future Of tins country.
Ii Is The question Of the VIII Of the people
sS oDpoSel TO the VII q the King; the
deliberate viii OF this House IS opposed TO
the ill-a6vise6 viii Of one man. The CUES
lion Is not that Of the abstract night o.
veto, but The exercise Of the rlgnt under
the circumstances o. this case. The Que>-
non as 10 whether or not the provisions OF
this bill are earned out OF not, Is OF small
consequence IS compared 70 the precedent
which this House ! 70 establish. We were
elected under peculiar circumstances ana
70 represent the people IN 5 Crisis o. vast
importance 70 them. We are here - Their
REPRESENTATIVES. To allow PERSONA p-eIu-
diees to influence Us contrary 10 that which
Is for their good. would be perf6y Of which
no one present should intentionally DC
guilty. II Is not q question OF whether de-
voting this money 10 the encouragement Of
coffee culture i wise; OF whether The pro
visions OF thiS bill are the best Or whether
Certgin sets OF the Ministers meet with our
zpprOv8l. The issue relates % the occ2-
son sn6 manner IN which .he vii OF
this House may De thwarteo oy the
veto Of the King inierposed IN oppoSl-
non 70 the sdvice Of the Cabinet In
England there j sn absolute veto. but
II has not been exercised for over 80 years
IN the United States there ! 3 veto which
becomes Ineffective or rwo-thirGs vote.
In Crest Britain the people are jealous OF
their nights Vital issues may be involved,
but they sre not decided BY 8 veto. In the
United States the greatest statesmen de-
clare that il should only be exercised on
extraordinary occasions. Otherwise i
i denounced a -tVrannv." Tyranny i
The arbitrary Ct 6eSpOric exercise OF power.
/ do not claim that this power should
never be exercised here. nor that Il should
never be exercised without The sovice Of
Ministers. But DO ssSert that i :
dangerous thing. and subverSiye Of the
rights Of ne PEOPLE. Il 50 used, except
when the safety Of the Government clearly
demands II. The Constitution ceGsreS
certain things IN regard 70 the King Art
icle 50 6eclsrss the King cannot oe SUED
or he'd 70 sccOUnI IN sny court or tribunal
Of the Kingdom" be may commit crime;
he nav wrong another. and he cannot De
held 10 account for II But would that
sr,S-Ssr- hi--, N committing crime. or IN