St. Paul daily globe., 1888-06-30
little Phil's Departure for
Nonquitt Delayed by Bad
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fle Free List Section Of
the Mills Bill Dis
posed of.
Judge Macdonald Sizes Up D.
S. Halls Strength--Cap-
ital Jottings.
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WASHINGTON, June 29.-The feature
of the senate proceedings to-day was the
discussion in connection with the pro-
posed appropriation for the establish
ment of a gun factory at Watervllet az
senal. The Senate resumed considera-
ton of the army appropriation bill, the
pending amendment being that OF Nlr.
Hawley, appropriating S6,3O0,OO0 Tor the
establishment OF gun factory ana Ior
steel manufacture at WaterVllet arse
nal. Mr.. German thought this was not
the proper time or place for such prop
ositfon; he did not think the terms OF
the amendment were sufficiently
guarded to protect the interests OF the
country in beginning SO great
a work. 1t proposed to place
the whole amount in the hands
of the ordnance officers, system
which was vicious, bad, and sure to
RESULT IN DISA STER.
The experience in other countries
showed that the governments could not
make guns with efficiency and economy.
He euologized John Roach as genus
who was DESTROYED by the rivalry and
criticism of the scientific men OF tne
armv and navy. He commended the
legislation of the last congress IN the de-
ciSiOn of the new cruisers, and Sald InaI
out of that legislation private establish
ments were growing up in this country
which, in few years, would excel any
thing on the Clyde. He denounced the
ordnance bureau as the graveyard OF
American genius and enterprise.
1t had destroyed every man
who had invented new gun and II ne
were secretary of war he would send all
the present officials of that bureau to
the interior, and would bring in some
new blood that would not obstru& and
Interfere with great improvements. In
reply to question from MIR. HaWley,
Mr. German said he was
NOT IN FAVOR OF DELAYS
In this matter, but would walt for i've
years rather than allow American enter
prise to be excluded from the war de-
partment. Mr.. HawleY said he did not
know what Mr.. Germans particular
plan was, but he would venture to say
That the senator proposed the worst mon
strOSity of plan ever heard of on the
subject. 1t was twelve years since
one dollar had been spent on the coast
defenseS. 1t had been two or three
years since there had been money
enough to paint an old gun carriage or
to cut the grass on the glaciS of fort.
The United States land forces had but
one single modern siege gun and that
was
STILL ON THE PROVING GROUND.
There were twenty-five or thirty eX-
cellent steel rifle guns for light artillery,
and here came the old story over again:
To wait until somebody put up new
plant, and that something was to be
done in the future. The government
had to do the best it could with what it
had to-day, The modern gun was
Of nf ct1 16yr
In this country and in Europe.
Mr.. Hawley asserted that private capi-
tai would not undertake to build q
plant to make experimental guns that
might be rejected and this money lost.
He thought the dynamite gun had come
to stay. He defended the officers Of the
ordnance bureau of the army and navy
as corps of young men who were not
surpassed or eXcelled by the staff corps
of any nation. Mr.. Butler favored the
amendment. He did not sympathize
with the criticisms of the ordnance Of
ficers simply because they did not
choose to adopt the
SCHEMES OF EVERY CRANK
that came along. Not three days since
man came to the committee
On naval affairs with device which he
admitted had not been tested and who
threatened, if his device was not recon-
mended, he would go at once to Europe
and offer it there. Mr.. Beck said this
discussion illustrated the folly of at
taching such amendments to the appro-
pliation bills. The army had to be pro-
Vided for for the fiscal year, beginning
on Sunday and yet this proposition was
injected which should be discussed for
months. No senator was more willing
than he to vote money for guns, but he
mil fn1, nc
and getting no guns. Mr.. Reagan, Mr..
Stewart and Mr.. Chandler advocated the
amendment. but without action the bill
was laid aside to discuss the first reSO-
luton, extending appropriations for
thirty days. After long discussion in
which the house was condemned for
dilatory action on appropriation bills,
the resolution was passed.
Discussion on the Hawley amendment
to the army bill was resumed. Mr..
Evarts advocated the amendment. Mr..
Plumb doubted if the
GUN OF THE FUTURE
would be made of steel at all, Iron
and aluminium would succeed these
metals. If the proposed plan were
adopted, he thought it would be changed
within five years. Mr.. Hawley said if
for very shame the American people
were driven to war, then the men who
argued against the policy of providing
guns would hide themselves. The
United States with its 10000, 900
people was a monStrouS mass of power; !;
but against modern steel guns it was of
no more account than a dead whale.
Mr.. Stewart spoke of the United States
as a good fat goose to be plucked by any
body in it's present defenSeieSS condi-
ton. Mr.. Cockrell spoke in sarcastic
vein on the fear and frenzy exhibited
by the Connecticut and Nevada senators
about British redcoatS landing on Amer
If Mr.. Cocllrell approved of Germany
taking the Samoan Islands. The latter
said that had nothing to do with
the Notifications of the United
States, and when pushed for an
answer to the question said the Samoan
islands had nothing more to do with the
territorial integrity of the United States
than Chinaman.
ANSWER my question:" persisted Mr..
Stewart.
1T is
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
whether l do or not" was Mr.. Cock
rell's response.
After Mr.. Cockrell finished his speech
and Mr.. Stewart intimated that if boast
ing-referring to Cockrell-could scare
Great Britain, there would not be any
necessity for this government having
either army or navy.
The senate, without coming to vote
on Mr.. Hawley's amendment. at 6:20
adjourned until IL a. IN. tomorrow.