The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1888-10-19

and means committee officially. out it was ad-
mitted by mem bers of the committee that Mr.
Havemeyer and his attorney had conversations
with them respecting the duties on sugar.
Dir. Breckenridge, or KentuckY-The state
mens the gentleman has made is absolutely un-
true. That must 60 on record.
MIR. McMillln-lt IL a statement which cannos
be substantiatsd in any way in the world, for it
10 absolutely void OF all fact.
Dir. Bayne remarked that, whether the COM
mittee aid it consciously or unconsciously, after
the visit OF Dir. Havemeysr. the Mills bill was
changed By the committee so as TO protect the
Sugar Trust. The original bill reported by the
committee drow the line at No. l6 Dutch stand
ard, but il was changed so as to draw the line at
No. Is Dutch standard. The object sought by
the Sugar Trust was to have the line drawn at
No. ID, and the result OF the change was to the
advantage Of the trust. The visit OF DIR. Have
meyer and the change In the bill were coinci-
dent.
Mr.. Turner said that the statement OF fact
made by the gentleman was untrue. The
change in the schedule occurred prior to the
visit OF Mr.. Havemeyer. dc characterized as
extraordinary the statement made by Mr.. Blaine
in Indiana, the other day, upon this subject.
TIE statement, whether made by the gentleman
from Pennsylvania, by the managers OF the
Senate bill. or by Mr.. Blaine, was untrue.
Mr.. Bayne-Consciously or unconsciously,
gentleman disclaims the intention TO promote
the interest OF the trust. he should amend the
Mills bill &C as to conform to the Senate bill.
Mr.. E. B. Taylor said that, in view of the ex-
traordinsry statement Of Dir. Turner, and the
still more extraordinary sta.smsnt OF Mr..
Breckinridee, in regard to the conversation
with Mr.. Havemeyer. he desired to read from
the Record of July 9. He quoted from . run
ming discussion between the two Breckinrldges
and Mr.. McComas, OF Maryland, IN which he
cited Mr.. BreckinridRs. Of Arkansas, as stating
that he had had . talk with Mr.. Havemeyer
abous the sugar-refpine business, and also Mr..
Breckenridge, OF kentucky, as refusing TO deny
that Mr.. Havemeysr had had q hearing before
the ways and means committee. in our part
OF the country" continued Mt. Taylor, I'VE do
not particularly pride ourselves on being chival-
rous, but we have an appreciation OF what hon
esty and fair-dealing are, and when Dir. Mills
tells Mr. Blaine that the committee on ways and
means had no audience with Me. Havemeyer,
be tells absolute truth in words, but o lpausel
mistake 10 fact
Dir. Breckenridge, OF Kentucky, charged that
Mr.. Taylor had 90 read the Record as to give q
fslse coloring to what be lBreckinridgel bad
said, and remarked that that was q specimen OF
the fair play which the gentleman said was ad.
mired in his part of the country. Ii was an
outrage on decency as well as a violation or
truth for the gentleman to say that Mr.. Mills,
when he denied the statement Of Dir. Blaine,
had been accurate to the Istter but false in
spirit 1t was gratuitous and without founda-
ton, and it would stick TO the gentleman, As all
Intentionally false statements did, during the
balance of his public life.
The discussion between the two gentlemen be-
came heated and many bitter things were said
on both sides. bat the dispute finally ended with
mutual explanations and regrets.
The Senate resolution for final adjournment
was then concurred in.
The blowing Senate bills were passed:
Granting the use Of certain lands to Tacoma, w.
T.. for a public park; to prevent army and navy
bands from entering into competition with
civilian musicians; to establish q land Office at
Folsom, y. NJ. Adjourned.