New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-05-04
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WHAT WILL HE DO WITH TT
THE GOVERNOR HEARS BOTH SIDES OF THE
HIGH-LICENSE QUESTION. :.
TWO HOURS OF ARGUMENT FOR AND AGAINs1
THE CROSBY BILL-MR. HILL LISTENS, SAYS
NOTHING AND wITHDRAwS-DEMo-
Gratis MAKE STRONG PLEAS
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Gratis MAKE STRONG PLEAS.
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Albany May 3.-If Governor Hill does not Sgd
the High License bill from the evidence that no
heard to-day he is neither the good lawyer that ne
is rcputed to be the shrewd and willy politician
that all who know him have reason TO believe THAI
he is. Both sides Of the High License question were
presented to him at the hearing which he gave ia
the friends and enemies OF the bill in the Executive
Chamber
The liquor men were out in force and nearly
filed the Chamber. They came In large delega
tions from all over the State and evidently cx'
pccted by the force Of numbers alone to over
come the arguments which would be presented In
favor Of the bill, for they could not answer them
in any other way. 1t would seem that the Demo-
cratic heelers Of half the downtown districts In
New-York City were with them at least their per-
sonal appearance and their apparent intellectual
abilities would have led to believe them to be
such. y
On the other hand. the friends of the measure.
although fewer in number, more than made that up
in appearance and the way in which they presented
their side Of the matter The Rev. DR. Charles
H. Hail. Of Brooklyn: the Rev. FaSher Walworth.
Of St Mary's Church, Albany; Colonel Watson.
representing the High License League Of New
and order associations throughout the country.
and Oliver P. Buell., representing the Young Mems
Democratic Club, of New-York, spoke in favor Of
the measure John b. Pine secretary Of the High
License Committee Of Ncw-Yorlx, presented peti'
tions from many sources and from many organiza.
tions in support Of the bill. Ex-Assemblyman
Walter Howe was also present to support the bill
A large number of prominent Albany people who
are anxious to have the Governor sign the bill sa>
near the speakers.
The opponents were Lawyer flaming, counsel
for the liquor dealers Max Stern president Of the
Retail LIQUOR Dealers Association, and Jimmy
Oliver, the notorious Paradise Park statesman.
FIRST INNING FOR THE LIQUOR MEN.
The Governor stated that he would allow On
hour to each side in which to present the argument
for and against the measure, and that the oppo-
nents of the measure would speak first. Therefore
Mr.. Tanning given the first say. He took
each section Of the bill and endeavOred to construe
certain sentences to mean exactly contrary to
their real intent. Ills main objections seem to be
Grated against tie poor, weak lnn@
cent and vrtuous rum-sellers alone. lie
construed the clause providing against the public
giving away Of liquors as preventing persons from
their clubs He read extracts from Democrats
papers opposing the bill His argument was with
out SOll0lty or point.
Max Stern followed with an appeal for the
liquor dealers whose business would be interfered
with il this bill became law. He said, however
that from business standpoint he was In favoi
of it..
Jimmy, Oliver, seeing that the liquor dealcri
Of New-York had all the support they needed,
went up into the State and became a farmers
For the people of Rome and Utica: and other small
rural cities, he made his plea. He also tried to
correct many Of the errors that his predecessor,
Th; The Per Personal Liberty League also had repre-.
sentative there against the bill in the person Of
Oscar Giesclich, whose arguments were from the
personal liberty standpoint only. They want FREQ
beer at all hours, week days and Sundays, and
his strong argument was that he would give his
children beer II he had to pay double for il. This
ended the argument so far as the opponents oi
the measure were concerned.
A CHANCE TO GET ON HIGHER LEVEL, GOV.
ERNOR-
Colonel Watson, the well-known Democrat and
lawyer Of New-Yorl,, took the door for the bill.
Up to this time not muscle Of the Governors
face had moved, except to announce the end OF
the hour ard to choke off his friend jimmy
from Paradise Park, who wanted to ask Mr.
Stern q question. Colonel Watson said in part:
We are met hero with criticisms the hand and
the other by people think manufacture OF liquor
crime and who In the business who tell us to
keep altogether We stand between the fanatics on
the and WAC anxious TO have the bu
ness continue We are not here Republicans This
man who last spoke knows that have been lifelong
Democrat and 1 will show you lot more like me- We
listen the cries from the almshouses and from tho
PRISONS which yearly putting enormous tax upon
people of the State because Of the liquor traffic We
are upon the business that restraint that should
be put unon any business that has got beyond control
Now what have donel We have drawn a Law as sug
gested by you at the hearing You vetoed tho
bill year because 1t special legislation But
We have overcome and accused Of trying TO
cut down the poor small places in New-York and Brock
lyn We came here with act applying TO the whole
State giving equal rights Of license throughout
the State, with graded in the proportion OF tho
LIQUOR sold We against the objection that tho
have too great discretion in fixing tho
grades Now, made six (6 grades OF licenses
cover all the localities of the Statc. have not touched
upon this political question. 1t has been made
ltcal question: but committee instructed me not 70
touch upon the political side Of the matter at all IL
should not be political question and by signing this bill
you may destroy the political side entirely and put both
parties on high ground regards temperance
IF ONLY DR. HALL WERE GOVERNOR
DR. Hall was next introduced by Mr.. Pine. Ho
said
I wish TO Introduce myself to you. as q Democrat and
not tectotaler I simply stand here to represent and
sustain the feeling In the City OF Brooklyn on this BILL
As Democrat exceedingly regret that the question has
taken It has. doubt not that you have can
vassed fully the field and how the party st2nds
better than 1 do. On the Of great election the
party to which belong will be IN unfortunate position
IS the side or high license Wheh my Hiehe
on the other side tells that this Bieh-License Dill
would be benefit him IL very strange that he
stands here trying to defeat it. The defects OF the Dill
are importance that they should wcgh agsh's
the measure This subject In its grander sources and
secret power is not to be deciied by law When
men or women want liquor they will get It. 1t is the
devil along the line OF their nerves
IL is not alone whiskey they want would TO God,
sir that could sit your place and sign the bill. 10
is an act OF mercy Pity me. Governor. have voted
for nearly years for sir and others Of your
party and would DO to see is take any other
than the right OF this grea. question came here
nary because could present you without prejudice
these resolutions signed by large number OF people In
favor OF this measure.
DR.. Hall presented set Of resolutions adopted
by the Brooklyn friends Of High License.
HOW MANY VOTES WOULD IT COST Mr. HILLs
Oliver p. Buell., Of the Young Mems Democratic
II Nor na.t irtno ood "a Ia