New-York tribune., 1888-08-25

Conrollerss Office. and who Merwarc Dccams su''"' "
the Aoueduct. Was he appointed by your Al 'o'eu
for him replace a man who had resieheu .
ODD you get up a scheme to Get Mr. McCuiioh QUIZ
Al did not
Ole says that Controller sent for him and told
him that you had such scheme ana tha' he "ouu
not be party it7 A-The Controller haa oe''cr oc
called and testify. 1 never had any connection WIN
putting him ] may have thought az umes 'h'' n'
did not perform his duties well
o.-whyf Al would rather not tell never haa
any doubt about his integrity 1t was simply with re-
card 10 his habits 81, -.
was that he was friend of your predecessor MI basoh'
Did YOU desire to get rid OF him on that aceountf A.
Well that would not any Recommendation to him. but
that would not dsoualify him for Office
Chairman Fassett had TO bring his gaVel doWn
hard TO stop the laughter
o-you have testified to a private conversation with
Hubert o. Thompson, dead you have also testified
to private conversation with John Keenan, who Is
fugitive you have also testified to private conversation
with Governor HILL
Mr. Grace-On public matters.
MI Nicon tcontinulng.)-who could not. out OF con-
sidelaon for his ONCE properly appear before ls commit
toe Do you consider that fair way OF fighting
poltcal antagonist7 Al am here under subpoena from
the Senate refused give information as TO what
would testify and tried everything to avoid being here
on any such mission.
General Tracy next took Mr. Grace IN HAND hanu
and gave him opportunity TO tell again
how he had tried TO induce Governor lilil 10
stick to home-rule principles so far as concerns
the city OF New-lork.
HOW ABOUT THE NEW HARLEM BRIDOEf
Mr. Nicoll returned to the Harlem Bridge mat
ter. Mr.. Grace denied that he had ever arranged
AN agreement between the Buffalo Bridge peO-
nlen and the commissioners by which the former
surrendered their contract and got the iron work,
nor did he know that the contract was afterward
given to Miles Tierny and that lawsuit still pend
ing was the result Judge Spencer and Squire, by
their votes, favored the AQueduct contractors.
Judge Spencer WAS mistaken when he testified
that he Grace favored the passage OF the FISH
Mr. Nicon called his attention to the interview
| with him which appeared in THE TRIBUNE on
| Nav = 1886, the correctness OF whch ne hhu
waited two years before mRqgpmg w pnaSco WI who was
| the City Hall reporter OF The Tribune a1 thc
| time of the interview $50, c
He is reputable gentleman" said Mr. Grace,
and if he goes on the stand YOU ought to give
| full credencc to what he says
of he goes on the stand and testifes to the state
ments that attributed to you in the interview" you
must have made those statements7 Al don't know
about that but know II he made those state
ments he believes that did lie is perfectly repu'a-
bic gentleman.
Mr.. Nicoll expressed some anxiety about those
Brunton witnesses" :" None OF them he sald.
, has come to time John Pcarcc Is not here
and am told by Mr.. Beelman that Mr. Morrlss9n 1Il
has gone out of town. Mr.. Grace was evidehtly
wfpassd wi,ns w " TsS Nc5 II f Succeeded in
| Tripping him up, and he retired smiling.
MR. BROWN AND MCLEAN. HIS PARTNER
Walston ii. Brown, the contractor, was the neNt
witness. He is little man with sharp features
but meek manner. and voice OF small compass.
He said that his partners were General oaihuel
Thomas D. D. McBean. Clinton Beckwlth ana
! William B. Howard
| n Isn,t Mr. Brce a partner in the concerni A
don't know I will explain. In October 1871 Generai
Thomas myself bought ut the interest OF ,ouou
r. Cummings 1 bought onetrird and he wo-'hru', anu anu
! he didn't state and never has whether MI D'
| was interested with him not II Mr Brce mas any
| interest IL is not as O member OF the firm
lie said that Mclean superintended the
work on behalf of the firm. and yas respomslpie %
TO the firm for the proper conduct OF the work; work;
He remembered Mclean telling nm thaI ne hau
| purchased some water-meter stOcK' anu gave
| this account Of the conversation:
II must have been year ago that he came uo
mo and stated that he wanted purchase some water
meter stock in company that was working patent D'
Engineer Church lie said that Engineer Ohu'cn % nH9
feeling hostile to him. and that If he became stockhoder
in the company Church might be more hen1F oisposu
toward him. Church. he said, had no Interest IN INC
stock. / told him that he would MAKE Hls'aAe n IA
buyIne IT, He was very anxious to have the hIm take
II, told him It would not; that our business hao noun
tho ~ do with purchasing stock He said that 1t was
GOOD stock and would pay per cent anyhow but
would have nothing 10 do with IT, -,
lie then gave a statement of his troubles WIN
McHoan in connection with the alleged BAD WOrlN
on the Brown. ii ward Il Co. contracts. Nir
Church had told him at the Union League Club
in December lS87, that he found there was con
siderable bad work on Brown Howard " Co 5
nortion of the Aaueduct. Mclean was summoned
from Tarrytown and was told OF the comIlaiIniIis Ms
lie said that they were grossly eNaegerdttu. ~
Church again complained of the character oi Inc lle
| ,vorl, Mclean was summoned again ana was
told that il was absolutely essentlai llo nc
should leave the work ana ley some iian VIII VIII
nosscssed the confidence of the chief engineer take
charge
rr,r THREE COMMISSIONERS. AND THEIR VISIT
Mclean refused on the ground that il would hurt
his reputation MISUNDERSTANDING had occurred
with Mclean and an effort had iheh pecn
made to force him out Of the firm in 8o6.
o-Mr. Mclean testified that you had told him that
hroe OF the Aaueduct Commissioners had come TO your
cce and had told you that 4 your firm would get rid OF
ecwith and Mclean expense OF repairing the bad
work would be very much less but that II you dd Es
rid OF them would cost you the whole lo per c' hvu
hack by tie city and You would not ten MN tc
names ~ the Commissioners Is there any uuh IN the
story9 A.-To a certain extent went to Ueher"l No"
ton and asked him would get the names vi soic
cople thoroughly and competent who woua
take charge OF our the Aqueduc lie hourht ne
MIGHT in couple Of days asked the same questions OF
Mr. Dowd, MIR. Spencer. Mr.. Baldwin Mr.. Barnes anu
Mr. Church Mr. Dowd thought he knew OF some one
M Spencer said he knew Of TO one MI. Chufch Sa'd
that he would let know in a day or two
dav or two after that Mr.. Dowd came TO my Office ana
said: MI Brown, the engineers report much greater
extent OF bad work than had any idea OF or tha you
1t Is matter OF gi'fJ CohSopU'N' W '"'
Of NewYork and credit Of the firm Of Brown Howard
. 70 and every one connected with the work, that some
class man should be put in charge OF your work Ill
whom the engineers and AQucduct Commissioners VIII nave
complete faith"
NJ ps,nes carae in n few minutes a,erward and en-
nressed himself lust as strongly Both OF these gehuc
men said that their feelings strong against MI
Mexican that even II he did good work, they "oud DC
suspicious OF II, and that from pccuniaiy pot o WV
II would be largely TO the benefit OF Brown HOwafa q
ca 70 mt some able man charge Of the work OF hnish
ing and repairing and other work
o-That accounts for only two Commissioners! A.
c. c. Baldwin met the stairs and brought him INTO the
omce lie expressed the opinion IN the sam" terms
said Can | tell this TO Mr.. McBeanr Thy p;cirrre1
Mat should not mention their M NcB an came
,n that afternoon told him that three OF the Connhs
soners had been in my Office that they saia tha' M
Ncnean wanted TO protect his reputation b. would be 10
nnLs slde MO cnMr-e Ol