Waterbury evening Democrat., 1888-08-10
HERR MOST TESTIFIEs
THE INVESTIGATING COMMIT TEES INQUIRY INTO SOCIALISM.
The Fiery Anarchist Gives Statistics as to She Number of Socialists In Amer
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 NEW YORK, Aug. 10.-The Congressional Immigration Investigation Committee presents novelties ev0ry day in the shape of witnesses. Yesterday Johann Most pre- sented himself. He he came to this country six years ago from Bavaria He said he publishes paper here of economic and Anarchistic character called the Freihett In Germany he published papers of the same creed. When bill was passed in the German Parliament inimcal to Social istic principles, 8 great many So- cialists were expelled from that country. The police at that time had the power of judges. This was in 1878. The police had the power of escorting suspicious peo- pie across the border. All of those ex- pelled did not come here. Many went to Switzerland and England. Most himself went to England and publis he'd the Freiheit there. When the Czar of Russia was killed Most said i'll his paper that it served him right England considered this utter ance libel on a friendly power, and he was tried and put Tn prison for sixteen months. After getting out he came here. He said there are 50,000 900 Socialists in the whole world. In France there arc 800, 900, and in Germany about the same number. In England, he said, there gre at least 5000, and in America fully nAII mllllOn. nc LulnkS LuAL all organized labor here sympathizes with socialism. To MT. Ford the witness said the laws here against socialism IS stringent as in any country in the world. They are not exercised so often, however. He gave his views on socialism Socialists maintain that they ought to get the fruits of their labor. Since they cannot accom- plsh this they endeavor to combine and be their own bosses. Socialists are op- posed to capital. Labor creates wealth, and therefore, wealth belongs to Labor. He does not want division. Jay Gould and the Vanderbllts should not own so many railroads. The railroad should belong to those who build them 'Crime," Most said, lis the result of pow erty. Abolish poverty and you will not need any police In the time of prosperity there are no crimes. After war there will be crtmes.n He believed in federalism m. Anarchists believe that the State will die out. They want to put the affairs of the State in the hands of commune The An archists believe that things cannot exist as they are now here for many years"
 MT. Ford asked him if the Anarchists could not get what they want by agitation what means they would employ. He took some time to answer, and then sad "Of course they would be forced to uso viol- ence. Socialism," said the witness, "cov- CTS the whole thing-Socialsm Social Democracy, and Communism. Socialis n in principle means q division of the profits of labor. Anarohlsm means get it peace fully if you can, but get it anyhOw.n Most defend the meaning of the word Nihilism He said 1t meant the sweeping away of the anarchical power In Russia. Most said that there are more Socialists in Germany now than there were ten years ago. He could not say that our liberal ideas here attracted Socialists to this country. He is not a oitizen Of the United States, but many of his associates are. He was refused his first papers when he of the answers he gave to the questions put to him. He told his questioner at the time that he was not prepared to say he would obey the laws of this country, as he was an Anarchist. The papers were ther refused him. He admires the Constitution of the United States, but ho does not propose to obey laws that he thinks obnoxious. However, he obeys them now, because he has to. Only about dozen So- cialists and Anarchists came to this coun- try during the past year. The Anarchistic literature distributed in Chicago at the time Spies, Parsons, and their companions were hanged there made more Anarchists than anything else he knew of. To Mr. Guenther the witness said he had been in l prison in Germany, Austria, and ill this | countay. II was put in prison here be- cause 1 made mistake," continued the witness. 1T told the people to arm them selves, thinking they had right to do so. The specific charge was maintaining an un- l loxvF,,I oacopoh1v