New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-03-31
MIR. MARSH NOT PERSUADED,
HE STILL BELIEVES IN THE MEDIUM.
SEVERAL JUDGMENTS AGAINST MADAME DISC
nrnAp s,rIsrITn IHIa MEX.

SEVERAL JUDGMENTS AGAINST MADAME Diss
pEBAR s,TIsFIED THIS WEEK.
The house at No. l8e Madison-ave was Is II In
state OF siege yesterday. II Is an innocentioomns
house, Just like It's neghbors but since the pubic
have been taught to look upon II as tho ossket that
enshrines CONS OF art produced In strange and mex
plIcable way, It has been much visited both by the
curious and by reporters who cherish curiosity simply
on business principles But the latter were moro rig
orously excluded than the former yesterday. The
door opened 10 callers not by the usual attend
ant. but by Franklin Lawrence, tho son OF Madame
Dlss Debar's friend Dr. Lawrence. Young Mr. Law
renee Is q goodooking man, prepossessing and suave
ia his manners But II an inspection OF his visitor
satisfied him that he was stranger no did not take
him In.
| Luther r. Marsh spent considerable part Of the
day downtown, transactng business with the clear
ness the energy and tho cspabity that have always
characterized him. He attended meeting OF tho
New Parks Commission, where, as no told TRIBUNE
reporter. only routine business was transacted Tho
reporter saw him at his home In tho evening" after
some difficulty, for Mr. Marsh now regards reporters
with mingled feelings, and has resolved 10 talk with
them no moro. lie reiterated his statement that no
had expected that the newspaper editors OF the city
would personally como on his Invitation 70 see 'he
pictures
al meant It only In a social wsy,s said he. Madame
Diss Debar could not be seen any more than as II
she had dematcrialiLed Her voice could be heard
now and again, as IT, like that OF Echo-whose case
by the way is the FIRST recorded Of dematcrfaliza
ton,-it was all that remained Of her DR.. Lawrence
and bis son. however, both chated afaby with the re-
Porter. Franklin says that his father Las known
Madame for many years. and that he believes In her
method of spirituasm sincerely as he believes In
tho mmutability OF his soul
MR. MARSH RECALLS AN EGYPTIAN PLAGUE
In the course of the conversation, Mr. Marsh ex-
pressed himself In strong terms on the subject OF ms
| xvAn ko said hah
neither for character nor feelings. 81 can now real
xo" he said. what the Egyptians experienced, whom
the plague of the ocuss inflicted on their land
Eu by-and-by, the gloom cleared away from his brow,
and he was talking cheerfuily about tho mst'er IN
which he is at present most interested and about his
lecture tomorrow night, for which he has maae
careful preparation,
II Mr. Marsh had with the reporter, sfterward
visited few Of his friends and business acquanfan-
ces, he would have realized that whatever has been
said by the newspapers In regard to the persons 10
whom what used to be his mousse gives harbo his own
reputation q lawyer and gentleman has every
where been treated with only the profoundest respect
and consideration. J. Seaver Page, one OF his as
sociates on the Park Commission, only voiced the
opinions when he testified to Mr. Marshs strong mental
powers as a commissioner and as legal authority
But every ex preston Of esteem and OF admiration
was tempered by the regret that Mr. Marsh should
apparently have allowed his tendency 10 mysticism or
spritualism to outweigh his sound legal Judgment and
cloud his dscernmen Mr.. Marsh makes strong
plea for fair trial Of his faith lie has natural
repugnance TO being ptied as dupe
" This should not be condemned he said TO the re-
porter s'erday, until y he's been thoroughly anu
fairly investigated and proved fraud"
JUDGMENTS AGAINST MADAM DISS DEBAR
Since 1882 the following judgments have been OBJ
talned against Madam Diss Debar:
March @ 1888 s1ss In favor Of Enrich Brothers for
drygoods satisfied March 2s 1885, April 8, 1883 sSoS
in favor ]. Garrgucs for professional services
satisfied March %. 1888 September 90, 1888 s52 In
favor Garrgues. for professional services salts
fed March o. 1885, April "a 1888 eos in favor OF Kate
G. Webster for dressmaking satisfied March % 1883
May 49, 1888 1854 OF Charles Borland for goods
sold satisfied March o. 1883 March O. 1888, In favor
Eleanor c. Huntington, for money loaned in 1885, sat
isaed March %. 1885, The total amount OF these Judg
is 81. 500
Verify Madame Dlss Dcbar is medium who has
often as shylock says In the play, "cope to 1udg
ment." And by some Of her judgments hangs tale.
Dr. II. ]. GaTlgues Is twice named in the list as a
successful claimant Of ic's for professional services
rendered In s 49, a. that %9 S her Ps
who was not Bavarian General them but oply an
DR. Garrgues attended the no snhold nearly three
months He frequently visited Madame Dss Dcha a
two children and nurse and attended the interests
Of her two babes by seeing that their wctnnrscs were
ss Se Snmsr 81 Ss for SHch charged
credibe7 nevehe she was sued and Jrdgc Nehrhas
enG 1"ryo FOR rce ssos Being the A amount he
claimed with interest and costs Madame Dss Deha a
costs added Execution for the total amount Of 1888
was granted, but there was nothing to "exccute.p
The sheriff made return that he could not fnd any
properly A little later the woman had another eX-
nerience With a shorf's dorrtv. over execution
taken for grocery bill OF S15'. 10 which judgment
was granted
JUDGMENTS SATISFIED THIS WEEK
It will be noticed that all the judgments have been
satisfied since Madame Dlss Debar came prominently
before the public through the newspapers 1t Is also
10 be observed that Madame Diss Debar claims to have
gennne Guido, not painted by any spirits. This
she values at 500 O0O and she she has had all
her life Where was 1t when she hadn't stick to
shale at the sheriff in lieu Of her indehtednessI
The true explanation OF the pc'urN making
s sin dobtful But several experts In chemistry and
calors have underf aken to solve IT, employees OF r.
W Devoe & Co. state positively that they have sod
woman answering Madame Dss Debar's description
some gelaiine preparation which might with proper
nanpnIaion produce the desired effect. photo
grapher and artist yesterday told the reporter that
byposnphife of soda, a chemical compound Of which
he did not recollecf the exact formula, would also
properly used temporarily blot out picture which
could be made TO reappear when desired:
In regard TO Mr. Marshs position In the New PARKS
Commission from which II ha been limited he may be
asked to retire. ono of the Commissioners expressed
the chslrmans services The bnlk Of the work of the
Commission has already been accomplished, and Mr..
Marsh has all along shown keen penetration and ex.
raordinary ability and has scarcely ever been worsted
in legal encounter. $3.50
not free best seats will cost 81, the others 80
cents. Franklin Lawrence told the reporter that this
was to prevent discomfort from overcrOwdngD