New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-04-05
NOW LET THE SENATE ACT
THE HIGH-LICENSE BILL TO BE REPORTED
FAvORABLY TO-DAY.
NO CHANGE MADE In ooMhITTEE-THE LAST
HEARING-INTEREsTlN0 ARGUMENT IN Its

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ALBANY. April A.-1he Senate Committee
Internal Affairs. which has as its members Senators
Lewis and Deane RepsJ and Senator Stadler
DEM. gave q hearing this afternoon upon As
semblymaD Crosbys High License bill which
passed by the Assembly last Thursday. Mr..
Crosby WAS present to support his measure. There
also appeared TO favor IL Dormsn Is Eaton and
John d Pine, Of the Citizens High License Com
mittee, and Father Walworth. Of ST. AIMS Roman
Catholic Church Of this city. The opponents Of
the bill were represented by Senator Stadler
Herman B. Scharmann OF Brooklyn, who repre-
sented sixty brewers Of New-York and BROOKLYN
j G. Ross, OF New-York, Of the Grocers' Union
and Frederick Uhlmann Of New-York, broker
in hops
PLEA FOR SMALL GRocERs.
The first speech made by Mr. Ross, who said
here the bill fl general. but certain
section which refers 10 the siorektepers license We
cater respectable class Of people who buy liquor by
the bottle This mode OF selling liquor has been
ssed by the Board Of Excise Of NewYorh They
reduced license from s75 ESQ and increased the
license OF the liouorstores 5000 The profits such
sales by the smal-only 10 or 10 cents
DOZEN II this till should become law could not
pay the high license demaDded-from $50 TO 5000
cording to business would throw this business
into hands OF the large grocery and sxtngush
In We feel that It IL unjust TO tar much
/ iQuOfdeaerA when they maize AZ much pront on TWO
drinks make OF doren bottles
THE GROCERY SALOON THE WORST SALOON.
John b. Pine, in reply, said that the authors Of
the II gh License bill proposed to grade the
licenses Instead of the sorekeepers' license
having been reduced in New-York the last year,
1t had been increased. Formerly there was
uniform stOrekeepers' license of only SIS. Park
& 1ilford, for instance, who did an enormous
business Of this class had 60 pay only SIS. The
mud Of " fhl.Iln NH an nd
this class Of licenses, compelling such houses as
Park I1lford to pay a big license fee. The
friends " High License had discovered that the
worst class Of 81 oOns those kept in groceries.
They desired t. suppress this kind OF saloon, or
at least l. ssen the number. The number Of liquor
stores in NwYork State was excessive. There
were "a, 900 n the State, or one to every sixty
voters. In the Western States II was the eX-
perienoe of the people that the High License law
suppressed the worst kind of saloons.
THE ADVANTAGES OF CHEAP BEER
II. B. Scharmann said
We presume that the Crosby High License bill will
become law. If So wish say that IL would be
great injustice You give preference to alcoholic liquors
The license fee Of malt liquors is left too high We be-
good fermented wine beer has never hurt
a man Beer Is cheaper to the worklngmen than
and necessarily It has 10 be sold cheap IL cannot
bear heavy Therefore exMayor Low has stated tina
in the Sixteenth Ward Of Brooklyn, commonly called
Dutch Town." there is onetenh many arrests as In
First Ward Of Brooklyn, which is an arstocratic
quarter
Senator Lewis-Should not these beer gardens pay q
high ncensei
Mr.. schsmann-It is dangerous thing to give Boards
Of Excise this discretion Politics win come In, and
fsvortsm This law OF Mr. Crosby, sincerely carried out
ought be beneficial but ought TO have 1t clearly es
tabshed that the who has beer license shall not sell
all kinds liquors The law is not Lived up to now.
would punish severely the first time law was violated
but the second offence would very severely. would
pray you reduce the license beer IL is not harmful
got drunk on beer. We would make the
maximum 900 for selling beer, and the minimum $50
THE LAW MUST HURT SOMEBODY.
Father Walworth said:
would wish the committee to remember that the law
you approve OF Is restrictive measure. 1t
must hard some ono II must deprive some one
profit The point is restrain and restrict this ter
rble traffic Such law will hurt some who is max
Ing money expense Of the State and It's citizens Of
who selling liquors and sending De pie TO the
poorhouses and tho Jsls This is hghlicense bill and
not Q low-license license Of 500 Is 10Y enough
Anything below that would be too low II accept 10
you destroy the bill tell the gentleman who has last
spoken that you get drunk on beer Men get drunk
on because 1t is cheap They have told men
that my home and told me OF their drunkenness
Since beer has been much favored we have had an
increase Of female drunkenness Formerly It was the
women who came weeping and asked me to stay
their husbands drunkenness II Is the hus1nd who
and tells me that his wiie's unkenness Is
running family Make everything else high and beer
low and the hieh-lcense idea IL defeated The high
mark OF nQuor.drrNng is at the lowest license
ROMAN CATHOLICS AND BEER
Senator Stadler-Are you aware Father Walworth,
that In Bavaria Catholic priests sell beer and conduct
breweresi
Father walworth-They DO, and they DO wrong. They
should be punished for IL
Senator stader-Let me tell you that of the lead
ing dsnsries Of the Catholic Church in New-Yok are
our chief customers cur brewery.
Father wslworth-1 have said nothing against men
drinking beer Prohibition only Necessary for men who
would be dru srds without It. In this diocese OF Albany
LIQUOR ct picnica
Senator stader-Thst the rule in the diocese Of
New. York Permit to say your reverence, that
brought up the Church Of the Redeemer in New
York
Father walwOrth-I am sorry to hear it Gaushtcr)
There liquor opposite that church People leave
the church and crowd into that nQuorstore and become
drunk-to the shame Of the Catholic Church
TO BE REPORTED FAvoRABLY WITHOUT
CHANGE
Frederick Uhlmann, Of New York hop broker,
asked that another hearing be given
on the bill IN order that the hop growers might
lie heard against il, Senator Lewis sid that
another hearing could not be era ted.
Dorman B Eaton followed with strong APP
peal TO the committee to report the bill favora6ly
to the Senate Just as 1t came from the Assembly;
II II was amended in any particular IL would be
put In peril Continuing his remarks Mr. Eaton
said.
This measure ia supported by THE NBwYoRK TRIB-
uNE the leading newspaper OF the Republican party in
the State by The New.York World which broadly
represents the Democratic party by other party news
papers and by the religious newspapers unanimously
There prohibition party in this State which wishes for
the defeat Of this II IL is defeated believe 1t viii
have double Its present members
Mr.. Seharmann-Mr. Eaton have you heard me say one
word against this bill
Mr. Eston-I never heard the gentleman say anything
OF which / did not
The committee then went into executive session
on the hill Senator Deane moved that the bill
should be reported favorably precisely as 1t came
from the Assembly The motion was adopted by
the votes Of Senators Lewis and Deane. senator
Stadler voted In the negative. The favorable
report on the bill will be submitted to the Sen
ate tomorrow
HEARINGS BEFORE COMMITTEES.