Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1888-12-18
EMIN BEY & STANLEY.
THEIR FATE DISCUSSED IN THE HOUSE
OF COMMONS.
The Latest Official Advioes 20 be
q Clever Oriental pevice-fhs ssigs
of suskim.

IBy Anglo-Amsricsn cable to the Dispstch.l
LONDON, December T.-In the House OF
Commons to-day Lord Randolph Churchill
asked what would be the estimated cost OF
sending reinforcements 10 Su3ktm and
whether 10 was the intention OF the Govern
meut 10 impose the whole or part OF the
expense upon Egypt la the face OF Mr.. Sails
bury's speech OF March 18th, IL which ne
SAID he did not think that the retention OF
Suskim would be an advantage TO Egypt,
and advised the abandonment OF the place.
Sir James Ferguson. parliamentary secre-
tary to the Foreign Office. said It was impos-
sible TO estimate the cost. Mr.. Saiisbury's
uttersnce was merely personal opinion IN
speech made outside OF the House OF Lords.
There was no reason to believe the Egy ptisn
Government coiucided Ia the oplnion or in-
tended to abandon Suakim.
John Morley described Sir James Fergus
sons answer ss extraordinary. He declared
that Il would be repugnant 10 the House 20
separate without learning whether steps
could be taken 10 avert the threatened fate
OF Emin Bey and Stanley. lie urged the
Government TO issue a proclamation 10 the
coast tribesmen stating that whatever hap
pened the Egyptian Dominion would not be
extended an inch beyond Suakim. IL the
Government was 10 detsch these tribesmen
from the Mahdl il must assure them that
they will be allowed TO retain their dispesi-
tions. Did the Government, Mr.. Morley
asked. consider the military operations so
paramount that II would not suspend them
il they endangered Emin Bey aud Stanleys
Sir James Ferguson said the Government
could not give the specific declaration ie-
quired. A close perusal OF Osman DignSs
letter increased doubts a. TO its genulneness.
II did not besr the impress OF truth. IL APP
reared to be O clever Oriental device, and
WAS not sufficient to delay the raising OF the
siege OF Suakim.
Mr.. Gladstone said he would assume that
any negotiations with the derylshes might
give so little encouragement that they should
not be attempted US a liked policy; hut as IL
was tue Governments policy to draw the
widest distinction between tue dervishes In
vesting Suak,m and the comparatively power
inl tribes regarded as the proprietors OF the
Soudau why should not the Government at
tempt to convert these tribes over to Engiisb
views regarding the occupation Of Suakims
II was essential TO determine whether the oc.
cupation should be British or Egyptian. TX
It were Egyptian II would be mischleyors.
while British occupation vas necessary. The
matter ought 10 he submitted to the iudg-
ment OF the House. He himself was ayerse
10 any OCCUPATION.
Lord Randolph Churchill said he re-
GREETED the resumption OF the course which
he had denounced when twas taken by the
Liberals. and no still denounced II.
Messrs. Chaplain and Bereeford (Conser-
yatiyes) advocated the retention Of SuakIm.
Mr.. Morley, in order TO obtain division.
moved TO reduce the vote for embassies by
G300.
The motion was rejected by vote OF 1865
against 7G.
Mr.. Labouchere moved that reduction
Of 81 900 le made IN the salary OF the Brl.
tish Minister at Washington. lie then CEN
sured Lord Salisbury for his delay In APP
pointing a successor 10 Lord SackYllle and
for his uniriendy attitude toward America,
which, the speaker maintsned, was espe-
cially shown in the PremiePs speech at the
Lord Mayors banquet.
Sir James Ferguson said he regretted
the tone OF Mr.. LabOucbere's remarks, and
that it was impossible TO enter fully into me
matter because 1t was only within the last
two days thatthe Goyernmenth had been placed
in possession Of the reasons for Lori Sack
yllle's receiving his passports. lie denied the
truth Of Mr.. Laboucherc's assertion that there
was disposition to sneer st America, aud
said he believed that the sympathy snd
friendship between the two nations were too
sincere to be affected by tins Incident OF q
Minister'S return. No declaration Of On
intention to delay the appointment Of his
successor until anew President was installed
had been made.
Sir William Vernon Hlrcourt was pleased
to bear the last statement. He urged that
the successor 10 Lord Sackyille be imme-
diatcly appointed.
Mr.. Macarthur asked II il was true that two
years ago England agreed that the German
influence should be paramount IN SamoaY
Other speakers followed.
Sir James FERGUSON said Il was satslac-
tory TO know that during the last iishiog
season there had been no disputes between
Canadians and Americans. IL was iucon-
yenient at present, he said, 10 lay before the
House the papers connected with the nsh-
cries conference.
Regarding Samoa, he hoped that c0mpen-
sation might be made TO those who had sui.
fered undeserved losses, but be was not IN a
position to deal With the future policy OF the
island. The Government for years bad been
pledged 10 neutrality. IL was earnestly wished
that some settlement might he reached that
would put an end to the civil wars on the
island. He thought It was not surprising
that Germany looked 10 an island 40 suitable
for coIonizing purposes. Z" We ought not to
be Jealous Of other nations" be said.
Mr.. Laboucbere then withdrew his mo-
tlon and the vote was agreed 10.
LONDON, December 1.-THE Foreign or
Zee mas made public series OF dispatches
giving the history of the Emin relief expedi-
ton These dispatches which are dated
from September %. 1856. 10 May q, 1885,,
show that Eng land from the first had no di-
rect communication with Stanley and never
officially recognized the expedition. OF the
Gl0,0OO promised by the Egyptian Govern
ment the Emin Relief Committee received
yeS. 400, and that amount was given only on
condition that il should be refunded out OI
! the proceeds of the sale OF ivory In Emn'-
! possession. IL 4 noteworthy that the most
/ gloomy adyices received Dy the COMMITTEES
from Stanley were dispatched from Wadea
at the end OF July, 1887.
TRENCHES snELLED.
| SUAKlH. December 1.-THE Arab trenches