St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1888-12-22
FRIENDS OF DAKOTA.
Mansur and Carlisle Are the
Men Who Carried the Plan
Through.
The Democratic Caucus That
Will Secure Early State
hood,
With Division, if the People
Of the Territory Vote
For It.
Springer Will Push the Mat
ter as Rapidly as Is
Possible.
Snecial RI tho G1oba

commanding influence of Speaker Car
Isle for the adoption of that plan. The
Tuesday evening caucus was desul-
tory affair, in which Mr.. Springer took
no part whatever, leaving entirely to
Hon. Charles Mansur, of Missouri, the
work of explaining the past work and
future intentions of the committee on
territories. Mr.. Springer remained 81
lent, because he has so often been ac-
cused of obstructing territorial legisla-
ton, and he delegated to Mr.. ManSur
the task of speaking for his committee.
On the afternoon preceding the first
causus, Mr.. Springer said:
! 81 have studied the great territorial
| question for several years. l have tried
my best to do what seemed right and
| proper for the people of all the terri
tories. To-day, because of the misrep-
| reservations OF partisan enemies, my
work is decried, and l am inclined to
think that it is better for me to say alb
| solutely nothing; and in this manner L
| will avoid the imputatiOn of influencing
| caucus action"
When the caucus assembled nearly
! every one was ready to explode with
| ideas. There were twenty-Seven
| speeches made. and none of them pro-
| nosed any feasible plan. At about s
| O'clock Mr.. Mansur arose and, after
stating the views of the committee, he
| said:
81 have a plan to propose. and it is
| this: believe that we can submit the
| division of Dakota to the will OF the
people. and at the same time save de-
| lay. There will be no extra expense in
4 70 Of rfrtn
ond. | believe this to be practicable,
fair, non-partisan, and yet Democratic"
He then outlined the plan which was
| afterwards adopted. There were thirteen
| speeches after he made his statement,
and not one member referred to what
| Mr.. Mansur had said. 1t was an I'M
usual thing for a new member to under
| take to offer plan for his party, and it
| had seemingly but little weight. The
| caucus adjourned. as we all know, with
| out reaching any conclusion. On
! Thursday evening at O'Clock the eau
Gus again convened, and Mr.. Mansur
again stated his proposition, with like
| result. Several speeches were again
| made, many of them too partisan to be
| considered worthy of attention, although
delivered by accredited leaders. There
was one man present who sat
QUIET AND THOUGHTFUL
throughout the entire discussion of both
evenings. Ten o'clock arrived, and the
| caucus was not likely to reach con-
| clusion as to line of policy to pursue,
when the quiet man arose. 1t was the
| logical. prudent, popular and cOnserva-
| tive Carlisle. of Kentucky. He said:
Gentlemen, am not inclined to look
with favor upon the admission of two
states from the territory of Dakota.
| That is because my mind is Influenced
by partisan desire to withhold from the
| Republican party the additional power
which such division and admission
would appear at present to inevitably
1t is narrow view, and |
| am glad to be able to discard
the idea and look only to the honor
and fairness of the matter. We may
all be mistaken. There may be two
| Democratic states there at an earlier
date than we are now inclined to hope
or anticipate. But that matters not
| Dakota is entitled to admission as soon
as practicable. The matter of division
| should be left to the people Themselves.
We must be fair. We must be honest.
We must be, above all, American citi-
Zens, representatives of American citi-
Zens. If / mistake not the temper of
| the people, it is in favor of submitting
| this entire Dakota matter to the Dakota
people. This is case wherein we must
look to the present, rather than to the
past or the future. We may hope, but
not plan, for the future in this matter.
We must leave the matter to a
VOTE OF THE PEOPLE,
and do it at an early date. | have lis
tened carefully, in order to inform my
self, and to weigh well the views which
have been expressed. In my opinion,
the gentleman from Missouri, Mr.. Man
sur, has devised the best policy for us
to adopt. We should permit the people
of Dakota to vote for territorial dele
gates, and for division or admission as
a whole, at the same time. l commend
his proposition to your favorable con-
sideration, believing it to be wise and
honorable"
In less than fifteen minutes the plan
was adopted and the caucus adjourned.
| saw Mr.. Mansur this afternoon and
showed him the above statement of
facts, and he said:
"YOu have obtained a substantially
correct version of the matter. / felt
that my plan was the correct one, and
twice urged it upon the caucus. But no
one paid attention to me so far as i was
able to observe. / did not even know
that my proposition had ELECTED sec
ond thought from any one. so :intent
was each member upon presenting his
own views. l was surprised when Mr..
Carlisle adopted my plan, and gratified,
too, can assure you. / never saw any
better illustration of the power of one
man than upon that occasion. 1t was
not Mansur, but Carlisle, who was
speaking. 1t was not new member
having audacity to thrust his views
upon the party as their line of policy.
1t was the wise, careful. logical mind of
their speaker who advised it, and it set
tied the matter"
"Why have you not claimed credit for
this thing?"
ut never occurred to me to claim
anything. The entire matter of credit
belongs to Mr.. Carlisle. But for him.
my plan would not have been adopted.
True, feel gratified with the personal
knowledge of my own work; to know
that in the great question of the day l
had the honor of taking so leading
suggestive part. But, you should give
all praise to Mr.. Carlisle for having laid
down the policy of the caucus. All the
credit that is necessary for me to have,
l will get from my party. feel that
the additional weight which future sug-