The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1888-06-30
An Animated Discussion in
the Senate.
COCKRELL'S SOUND DOCTRINE.
The Talk About Fortifcations, He
Saws. is Childish-Ths Tariff
Bill In the House.
SENATE

being the Hawley amendment offered
yesterday. German said he did not be-
lieye the terms of the amendment were
sufficiently guarded to protect the
INTERESTS of the country in beginning
such a great enterprise as is proposed,
to place the whole $6,300,O00 in the
hands of the ordnance bureau system
which was generally regarded as
vicious, bad, and sure to result IN
disaster.
Hawlev said the amendment merely
proposed to do for the army exactly
what has been done for the navy. The
proposition of the Senator from Mary
land, if he understood it. was that
private concerns should be invited to
make a perfected gun, but he (Hawley)
asserted that no large steel manutac-
turer in the country would undertake
on any terms the government would
listen to, or the people sanction, to
build q twelve or sixteen inch gun in
his own shops, purely for experiment.
Would TIE Senator himself, if he had
two or three millions invested in steel
works, spend another million IN putting
q plant in order to tnrn out a single
perfected gun which might be rejected
when made After the harassing ex-
perience of old John Roach, man who
had done honor to the country, not one
manufacturer would spend a million
dollars in making gun. He defended
the ordnance officers of the army and
navy to whom, he said, the grossest in
Justice had been done.
Butler said, if the Senator from Mary
land had been q member of the COM
mittee on military affairs or committee
on naval affairs, be would soon have
come to the conclusion that those ord
nance officers we're subject to very
irving ordeal. Not three days since,
a gentleman (aliuding to Burdau) had
appeared before the committee on naval
AFT airs with a device which he supposed
10 be absolutely perfect for the removal
nj nets against torDedOes, ana yet, when
Yle was su 0iected to an examination as
to its pr4c,iCabllity, he had to ad-
nit it had not been tested, but he
Haunted IN the face of the committee
a threat that unless 1t recommended the
appropriation he asked, he would take
@ stesm n for Europe in August and
would nave the device adopted there.
That was an illustration of what the
ordnance officers had to encounter
almost daily After further debate, the
rdiscu sion was suspended in order to
let other business be transacted
Allison reported back the joint reso-
luton extending the appropriation for
the present f:cal year for thirty days
from June Goth, in the departments for
which appropriation bills for the next
wear shall not have become a law and
after long discussion the resolution
passed without division. Senate resumed
consideration of the army approprla-
ton bill.
Hawley stated in reply to the ques-
ton previously asked that with an ap-
preparation OF So 100000, 270 guns would
be constructed, but that it would take
five or six years to eXpend the So 000,-
900. If the American people were driven
to war and were humiliated, then the
men who argued against the policy OF
providing guns would hate themselves,
and would call upon the mountains to
fall upon them. The English them
selves were surprised at the United
States in regard to its war preparations
and asked if there ever was such a
happy-go-lucky reliance on luck since
thu world began. The country with
mass of potential power but against the
e
fective than dead whale.
Stewart spoke of the United States
as being good goose to be plucked by
anyone and spoke of the alarm felt at
San Francisco a couple of years ago
AThen trouble with Chilli was appre
hende1. He was reminded by Plumb
that England had paid 5000 0O0 under
the Alabams award and replied that
was because the United States had q
great navy and because the whole
world was in favor of it. Times had
changed now aud such a treaty as the
Alat ANA treaty would not be made
now.
Cockrell spoke sarcastically. AS e1-
hibited, las he said), by Senators from
Connecticut and Nevada, he could al
most imagine the Br, tisn red coat COM
ing down from the skies. landing on
American soil. driving back the timid
Yankees and leVying contributions on
the American cities.
They burned this capitol" Hawley
suggested.
sYe', they burned this capitol once"
said COokrell, land they regret 1t to this
day"
And so do we, was the loconic re-
joinder of Hawiey.
= y Di1' StlNl OJC Gil VIC w
it, | do not regret it, the American peo-
pie DO not regret It."
In the course of his further argument
Cockreil was asked by Stewart whether
he approved OF Germany taking the
Samoan Islands.
That has nothing to do" was the
reply. with the Notifications of the
United States"
But do you approve of it?" pursued
Stewart.
81 an dot DESTROYS of answering the
question" said Cockrell. "Whas have
tbs Samoan Islands to do with the te:-
ritoriai integrity of the United States2
Nothing more than Uhinanan has to
do with it." (Lsughter.)
Answer my question: said Stewart.
at Is none of your business whether
/ do or not" was the more forcible
than polite response. sit is not the
question at issue" Cockrell continued