Waterbury evening Democrat., 1888-03-27
THE CASE AGAINST GOULD.
THE MILLIONAIRE TALKS OF THE
 CHARGES AGAINST HIM,

And Says Attempts Have Been Made tc
 Blackmail Him and His Son George.
 The Plaintiffs' Lawyers, on the Other
 Hand, Allege Attempted Bribery.
 NEW YORK, March 27.-In discussing the suit against him in behalf of European holders of Kansas Pacific bonds Jay Gould said to reporter:
 ssThe hostility of The Herald toward me dates from the time when James Gordon Ben nett the elder, had his son, the present owner of the paper, elected director in the Ameri can Cable company, which, as we all know, K a part of the Western Union and the cable pool Young MT. Bennett started on his career as director by demanding that The Herald's news should have precedence, and that its cables should be transmitted before those to other newspapers. He also demanded a reduction in tolls on all Herald cables. We could not grant such requests l thought that the company was business concern, and that all the newspapers should be treased alike MT. Bennett's demands increased dur ing his term a director, and he threatened that unless we complied with them he would start new cable com pany. At last he was dropped as director, and he went to London and consulted with John Fender about building another cable company. Mir. Fender is. an expert enced man, and he could not see any profit in Mr. Bennett's plans Mr. Bennett thereupon hunted up John w. Mackay. They built the Commercial cable, and the investment has not proved profitable. There were more cables than business, even before the Mackay- Bennett lines were established, and with the advent of those lines cable rates began to feel 4l 1f D-Ao cut and things got in tangle. Competition became sharper, and from what I know the projectors of the Mackav-Bennett cables have had struggle. In my opinion the invest ment has been far from profitable. That fact alone and other business ventures of Mir. Bennett's related to the cables and the Asso- ciated Press have been against him, but the unproftableness of the Mackay-Bennett cables is the chief cause for MT. Bennett's animus against me. He has been hostile to the extent of egging on this Denver Pacific Kansas Pacific prosecution, for it has long since ceased to be persecution. That, l think, will explain my reference to news paper and cable company"
 Mr. Gould was then asked why the prose cutting lawyers, w. H. Delaney, E. l.. An drews and their later associate, De Lancey Nicou, persisted in thelr demand for his and Russell Sage's indictment, and why they did not seek to recover damages in a civil suit.
 MT. Gould replied: ''In the first place, the claim they make against MT. Sage and me is blackmail, pure and simple blackmail It did start out with civil suit, brought i'll the name of German banking house. I cannot, at the moment, recall the name of the firm, but do know that the instant the firm heard that it had been made the plaintiff in the suit it cabled over to the lawyer and ordered the suit stopped. What was left for these lawyers 10 do? Not one of them represented any bondholders, but prominent politician and office holder steps in, and demands that and Mr. Sage must be indicted. This mans action vas dictated by personal feeling. He was not l LOndhOlder. His course was the result of personal animus growing out of my interfer- ,nce OH behalf of personal and warm friend of mine, who figured prominently in a suit or divorce brought by his wife.
 ''Before I sailed for Europe called on a very prominent gentleman, who holds one of the highest offices in the state, and laid the whole question of my trusteeship in the Dem yer Pacific-Kansas Pacific railroad matter before him, and told him that I was about to sail for Europe, and if there was any reason why I could not go wanted to know it. had been told that was to be arrested as stepped on the steamer. The statesman sent for an officer conversant with the case, and wanted to know what there was ill the matter. The official, in answer to the statesmans ques- tions, said that there was talk about indicting me He added that the party was ill the heat of hot campaign, and that while he believed that the statute of limitations precluded my indictment, he still thought it would be poor politics to give the appearance to the people that rich man could do anything, while poor one could not, and he did not care to de- eide the matter just then. 1 can we'll remem- Der the stateman's emphatic remarks to the official after this admission. The statesman said, This is infamous; this is an outrage; and any conduct such as you propose will hurt the party great deal more than it will bene- fit it. The official then said that might go Before I went to Europe there were many suggestions and overtures made to me that I might settl. the case. would not My prin- ciple through life has been not to give one cent for blackmail, but millions for defence I declined all propositions for settling the matter.
 My son George was then left to face these people. I hadn't got fairly on the sea before the leading counsel for the alleged bondhold- CTS called to see George He was modest enough to say that the whole matter could be settled for $500, ,OOO. What did George say? Why, he told the visitor he hadn't much money himself, that he couldn't communicate with me, but that he didn't see very well how the matter could be settled, as it was in the hands of the district attorney, who would have to do his duty, and if MT. Sage and my self were guilty, charged, there could be no possible settlement of the case George was notified later in the day that if he did not settle before midnight the white flag would be pulled down and war declared. George saw the white flag go down Then they tried to have MT. Sage settle They offered to do the business for him in good shape for $100,000. Why did they reduce their price to Mir. Sages Oh, suppose be-