New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1888-11-03
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Washington, Nov. 2.--Therc is on file In the ota'o
Department document OF whose existence Secre's'
layard appears to DO ignorant for Vt so ccmpieteiS
shows that there have been direct CONSULTATIONS vi
prominent Democratic leaders at the North with inc
British Minister looking to secure his official ad ior
their party the offence which Mr. Bayard ahec's !"
SEQ in tho Murchison communication which throw
that letter wholly into the shade. This attempted
dealing OF managing Democrats with the BRUSH si'h
lister was notorious at the time. except that 'hc'r
Identity was not disclosed. 1t had for Its oolec. W
secure the Intervention OF England against inc oos
eminent Of the United States In favor Of the ReDcl-
ion. In other words, 1t was rank ueason' pu' ~
such a delicate position was our Governments pi"''U
with an armed foe in front and those who should nave
been its friends secretly plotting on every s'u' :"
secure It's overthrow, that was unable to BRING 'nes0
Democratic ploters to justice, could 1t then ias'eh
upon the British Minister any specific charge so as W
demand his recall Later however, ana ai'er L"i"
Lyons the British Minister, had seen thae inc orus'
Ing out OF the Rebellion sure to come anu 'haA
1t would not be policy for his Government 10 lurn's"
any open encouragement to the rebellious oouth' '
attempt of the managing Democrats found us way l"
the files OF the State Department in the shape OK
copy OF letter from Lord Lyons to Earl Russell.
This letter is as follows:
washington, November II, 1862.
In his dispatches OF the 18th and OF the oath uit ana Oh
the 7th inst, Stuart reported your Lorushp inc
result OF the elections for Members OF Congress and se
officers which recently taken place in several OF the
most important States OF the Union. Without repeat
Ing the details It will be sufficient Tor me TO observe 'ha
the success Democratic or as 1t now Styles ltsc'
the Conservative party has been great as 20 manifest
a change in public feeling, the most complete that mas
ever been witnessed in this country
On nv arrival at New-Ycrk the Sth inst, found
the Conservative leaders exung in the GROWING sue
achieved by the party In that state. Ihey ap-
peared rejoice above all In the conviction that per-
sona liberty and freedom Of speech had been secured for
the principal State OF the Union They believed that the
Government must desist from exercising In the
State Of extraordinary and as they regard
hem Illegal and unconstitutional powers which IL had as
sumed They confident that at all events after the
lst of January next which day tho newly elected Gov
ernor would Office the suspension OF the writ Oh
habcas corpus could practically maintained They
persuaded that the result OF the eecuohs
would accepted by the President as declaration Oh tns
will Of the people, that he would increase the molera.e
and Conservative element In the Cabinet That he "ouiu
seek to terminate the not to push 1t TO extremity
that he would endeayor effect reconciliation with the
people and renounce the idea OF sublugahg
exterminating them.
On the following morning. however. intelligence ar
rived from Washington which dashed the rising hopes OF
the Conservatives. H. announced that General Nc
Clean dismissed the command OF the Army
OF the Potomac and ordered to repair to his nome hat ne
had fact removed altogether from active service
The General had been regarded the representative OF
Conservative principles in the Support OF him had
made Of the articles Of the Conservative electoral
programme His dismissal taken sign that the
had thrown himself entirely into the arms OF
Radical party and that the attempt TO carry
the policy OF that party would be persisted H. Ihe
irritation OF the Conservatives at NewYork was Ger.
alny very great. 1t seemed, however, TO be not I'M
mixed with CONSERVATION and dependency
Several Of tile leaders Of the Democratic party sought
interviews with ne both before and after the arrival OF
the intelligence o. General McCeans dismissal The sub
ect upTermost In their minds while they were speaking
with naturally that Of foreign mediation between
the North and South. Many of them seemed t. think
that this mediation last but they appeared
be very much afraid OF It's coming too 1t was
evident that they apprehended that premature proposal
Of foreign intervention would afford the Radical party
Of revvng the violent spirit and thus defeating
the peaceful plans Of the Conservatives. They APP
peared regard the present moment peculiarly I'M
favorable for such Offer and indeed to hold that IL
would be essential the OF any proposal from
should be deferred until the control Of the
Executive Government should be In the hands Of the Con-
sentative party.
1 gave opinion the subject. I did not say
whether l myself thought foreign intervention
probable advisable. But listened with attention to
the given Of the plans and hopes OF the Con-
sentative party At the bottom thought perceived
desire to put end to the at the risk Of losing
the Southern States altogether but It plain that 1t
not thought prudent to this desire Indeed
hints OF dropped before the elections i'll
received declaration In the contrary
was deemed necessary by the Democratic leaders.
At the present moment therefore, the chiefs OF the Con-
seryatye party loudly call for more vigorous prosecu
ton Of the and reproach the Government with slack
well with want Of success IN It's military
But they repudate all idea OF interfering with the
Institutions Of the Southern people. of waglng
Of subIugauon determination. They maintain that the
If he he MIA
North in position demand armistice with honor and
effect. The aTmlstce should. they hold, be followed by
convention, In which such changes the Constitution
should be proposed would give the South ample security
the subject OF its slave property and would enable the
North and South reunite and TO live together in peace
and harmony The Conservatives profess to think that
South might be induced to take part in such
ton and that restoration OF the Union would be the re-
suit.
The more sagacious members Of the party must how.
ever look upon the proposal Of convention merely
last experiment to test the possibility OF reunion They
are. doubt well that the probable consc-
quence OF armlstice would be the establishment OF
Southern independence but they perceive that IL the
South is utterly aenated that possible concessions
will induce It voluntarily the Undon, IL is
wiser to separation than prosecute cruel and
hopeless war.
1t is with reference to such armstce they desire
to attain that the leaders Of the Conservative party regard
the question Of foreign mediation They think that the
offer OF mediation, II made a Radical Administration,
would be rejected that II made at unpropious moment
1t might increase the viruence with which the is
prosecuted. II their party in power Writ
uay controlled the Administration they would rather
possible obtain anisce without the aid OF foreign
Governments But they would be disposed accept
oher Of mediation II appeared be the only means Of
putting stop TO hostlties They would desire the
offer should from the great Powers Of Europe
Jointly aud in particular that little prominence should
be given to Great Britain
Lord Lyons then proceeds to relate that on arriving
In Washington neither Secretary seward nor Presi-
dent Lincoln showed any disposition TO converse
politics. From all he could gather. he did not think
It eXpedient to offer mediation Just then, II might
cmbarrass the Peace party. After considerable
presentation Of the situation he It, he says In
conclusion.
The immediate and obvious interest OF Great Britain
well the OF Europe peace aud prosperity