The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1888-03-01
THE CHURCH SUITS.
The Examination Of Wit
nesSes Concluded.
EVIDENCE GIVEN YESTERDAY
James Moyle and Douglas Ferguson
Tell what They Know-President
Angus III. Cannon Recalled.

AT 10 30 on Wednesday, the examine
ton of witnesses in the Church suits
continued before Judge Sprague.
JAMES MoYLE being sworn, testified :
i have been working for the last five
years on the Temple Block. l worked
from January, 1887, up to recently, as
foreman of stone cutters, and have
general supervision of the mason work
on the Temple. The number of men
varied at different periods, but quite
recently, before all work was stopped,
the number was materially reduced.
1t was some time in March, 1887, when
1 notified the men of change, and was
Informed that the men would be under
the employ of the Church Corpora
tion." At the end of about ten days
the men were discharged for few days,
when. they were employed by the pre-
siding bishop. | don't remember who
sent me word, but thinkit was Bishop
Bassett. He said he received per cent.
in cash, and another per cent. in due
bills. which entitled him to draw things
In the stores of the Church.
Mr.. WILLIAMS here asked: when
you received word from Mr.. Bassett,
how long was it before change took
place?
Mr.. MoYLE-It would not be more
than a day, should think, maybe
Immediately, perhaps two or three
days.
Mr.. W.-What did you do relative to
the changer -
Mr.. M told the men there would
be change, and that we would not be
paid any longer by the Trustee-in-
Trust.
Mr.. Was not the change in con-
sequence of the Edmund-Tucker bill,
which law disincorporated the church?
Mr.. M.-The two things are not
associated il Ray mind; do not think
the change was IN consequence OF the
passage of such law. However, | was
acting under instructions.
Mr.. WILLIAMS Questioned the witness
closely to see II he had been
paid by the Church Corporation" the
'Trustee-in-Trust," or the Presiding
Bishop" and wanted to know how
much money, what wages, he was get
ting; how he turned those due bills"
lOT tdUlG lUOuI WucIutI duf dCCOuub
was kept of the punching of the due
bill and the amount taken in, and if
all the wages were paid in the same
building, and if vegetables and other
produce were given in return. for these
due bills as before the change. to which
the witness answered in the, affirmative.
The testimoney was long and tedious,
and many questions of unimportant
Specification were asked the witness.
Mr.. DOUGLAS FERGUSON was then
sworn, and testified that he had worked
at the presiding bishops Office for about
four years as clerk and bookkeeper,
running a set of books upon the 'due
bill system" He had made out
orders for men on the Tenn
pie Block, and, in fact, for all
Church hands; and about the
only change that took place was in the
| wording of the orders, when the change
from the Trustee-in- Trust to the
"Church Corporation" and from that
to the Presiding Bishop. just stating
who would pay, or be responsible for
the payment of the orders.
Mr.. Ferguson's testimony went to
show that though the property had
changed hands, and the orders were
worded differently, still the men could
draw vegetables, etc. > ust as previously:
that at the time of the change, those
having due bills on the General Tith-
ing Store" were required to get them
Changed for other ones, and all the &C.
count that was Kept by him was the
Stubs" Mr.. Ferguson assisted Mr.
Cannon in making the pay roll out for
The hands employed by the church
around the yard.
Mr.. PETERS then subjected the wit
ness to a rigid cross examination,
dwelling particularly on the knowledge
the witness had of the signing of the |
pay roll, the kind of bills issued, their |
uses, and IN whose employ he, the wit
ness, was during the change; when he |
commenced work the different or
CARNATIONS or asst ion, the length |
of time so employed, II redeemipg of |
Church Pay" his work in the Office
and the men he saw. Mr.. Ferguson
to the pay roll, and he |
understood that the presiding bishop
had received orders from the Church |
Association to pay these men with.
Mr.. PETERS Were there any dona-
tions received atyour Office at the time
you were working for the Church Asso-
ciation2
Mr.. FERGUsoN-I do not remember
positively-( Mr.. Young objected as
being irrelevant and immateriaD. 1t
was a matter bad nothing to do with,
and therefore did not notice any.
Mr.. PETERS Would it not have
called your attention, if they had been
stopped?
MR.. FERGUsoN-Well I don't know.
I was very busy, and the farmers were
also, and there was but little coming in
1T that season of the year.
Mr.. P.-Do you know whether the
Trustee ceased TO do business at the
OF the month?
Mr.. FL do not; but had an idea
Mr.. YoUNG-We object to the ques-
ion. :
Mr.. PETERs-You may answer. What
vas your idea?
Mr.. F.-My idea was that the Church {
lad been disincorporated by the laws
f Congress.
Mr.. PETERs-ThaJ is the reason for
he change, as you understood 1t, is it?
Mr.. F. Well, l will not say
haiti was my idea. but when
got to view it that way cannot tell as