New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-03-04
UNFOLDING HIGH LICENSE.
A TILT BETWEEN DRs. CROSBY AND FUNK.
LIVELY DISCUSSION BEFORE THE BAPTIST SOCIAL
IrNIoN-wuAT OTHER sPEAKERS SAID.


UNIoN-wHAT OTHER SPEAKERS SAID.
The Baptist Social Union held meeting at Delmonicos
last evening and discussed the topic, (which is he peE
ter remedy for the evil Of ntemperance high license OF
Prohibtioni" There was n good attendance ana tne
discussion was animated. although total abstinence
was exemplined at the dinner The Interest was hegn
ened by the that the Rev. Dr. Howard Crosby ana
the Rev. Dr. X. Funk took the lead In the discussion
The Rev. DR.. j. ii. Cunning presided. others
present were o. ID. Baldwin. James rye
the Rev. Drs joseph +. Newcomb and Clarence f. ward
A. c. Cheney, ]. d. Reid, Benjamin s. Harmon De ID
squIres, J. Everett Thompson, Frank g. Allen b. f.
Judson, +. b Harper Edward Colgate Charles j. TOWN.
send A. j. Robinson. j. Arthur Barratt Clark = Cross
man, Henry c. yedder, James n. Perry, William d.
Isaacs Harris c. Childs James b. Colgate and HERBERT
+. Andrews.
DR. Crosby in opening the discussion declared that nc
was born OF peace, but somehow OF oher nc hau
been flung into Those present had met as CHRISTIANS
with honest differences. DR.. Crosby found his
chief opposition to prohibition In the Iac1
that 1t was not practcable anu wa.
also unAmerican. In this country we prohioitea
what are known natural crimes against the commnm
ty; we do not prohibit by law any business which III
itself i, not criminal There sin whatever In sell
ing wine even to his brother Funk lLaughterL "ro-
hibition would DO unwise II practicable. Inc
Christian way OF removing did not lie In reinoV
ing the object of sight This would only weaken INC
character The poorest liquor places were the w0rss
places. Dr. Funk would say that stokess place "n'
Infinitely than the places In Houstonst no. S
Why those VINO h oney 70 spend were
sporting characters etc In Housonst places an c sni
generally with a hgh.cense law all the unlicensed
places would be SHUT up because the licensed P Ia,s
would take care that this should be the case lllsn
license spite of what The Voice said had been sue
cessiql In Chicago The wise plan or ING ~ %ib license
Prohibition might follow later after quieter waters hao
Dr. FUNK urged that the time had. como
to force the temperance question 10 POM o,n'
The prohb,oDss opposed high license because It
a restrictive measure, John d. fnch 9ad PIoposon
the High License bin In Nebraska, and believed that u
would decrease the number Of harrooms, would drive OUT
the dives and make the surviving places act a. poc u
he had Acknowledged that this was the create,
mistake OF his fe that high license had put the $1,000
liquor into politics and had placed Omaha IN na
taken friend with him there and had visited the bar
for two nights Places were open after midngn
and not barrOOm keeper had made a complaint against
another Why Those who live in glass houses dd hIe
throw stones. The Hoffman House barroon would WORK
more harm than 100 places Of the cheaper kind In Kansas
City to-day. although the grogshops were paving 80
license there was one to every thirty voters As Ior
American Idea was II un American TO say gu shh No., TO-
crosby in regard to crime the OF frame houses
was IL a crime 10 build frame house IL was mater
OF protection In Pa tue keeping OF houses OF nan r
Puie licensed Win what eaeci In l75 S we'd d.
lock As TO high license Moses had never sngge-te SIu
the fee for allowing the worship Of golden cali anu
jam, B. Colgate though; that the who did bust
ness on statistics bound 10 fail Adam ana Eve nal
I
ana evil and they had immediately gone 10 ca.
ing. Prohibition would be dnlcnlt as Iong as
declared that ne hal the natural right to take drink
before meals and after meals and bis tody between
meals and he didn't propose To resign these 'Shts
New Testament said little about rights ana ie thtlpd
statement on that point was that REGARDING me man
hired the eleventh hour aud the master who ad hi
much NJ those hired earlier Insisted that De han
right 10 DO a. he pleased with his II an attempt
were made enforce prohibition against smoking every
body would want smoke. The saviour diced ont on
SUNDAYS and made some splendid afterdlnner speeches
john II. TOWNSEND called attention 10 IA" attempts oi
the Puritan ancestors 20 prohibit hi hats and lace- aud
the public OF tobacco but tis all failed gnobly 80
o. ID. Baldwin corrected lr Funks IDEAS on thc pulL
Ing laws. Robert Bonner he SAID was restricted run
driving fast; Prohibition would keep his horse In the
stable Mr Baldwin wouldn't give CONT
nen,ai" for Chicago or, Kansas CITY statis,
cold clustering weather than IN warm weather. go
with up into SiIth-aSe" exclaimed the wcil-niormed
find perhaps twelve u Idor places uctween mn
and 1hryeghth sts.. while you won't Ind Que IN thirty
sixhaVe = the place i9r them, anu iHirs an
toned by her mother against touching hartsn9 s
bottle As the mothers back was turned thc
child took good WIN Of u Aer she ma been s Gse God
always punished one who did wrong Mamma SAID tne
young hopeful do you ink GOD pnt tDs. mere io 70
rights and don't get caught" .,..
John W. stevens declared that European seht,ue e
controlling the men OF this country ana mat
great change had come over the people here IN ioy
years They had got To 20 behind prohibition anu %
ion and make the Temperance question purely hoI"
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T. q Harper declared that two years IN Delaware had
sett Ell the question there and ~ advocates h
found II mpracticabe and had abandoneilt Livery one
would like 10 have the wealth Of Vanderbilt but u ne
couldn't II he would take what he could igh license
wond increase the revenue according Ia Dr. FINK
and hence would he beneficial; II would be even more
so according Dr. Crosbys views that high license
would diminish the number of liquor places
The Rev Mr. Hartley said that lie was Ia Inc DARK on
the subject and wanted light