The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1887-11-22
Ths &Hilg 9alletin
TUESDAY, NOV. 22, 1887.

Minister Thurston said one point
had not been adverted to. 1t might
be said that the form of bond asked
for was not in accordance with the
statute. We might offer them a
bond that was. They would reply:
We don't want that kind of bond /,
give us back our money. We don't
know anything about the statute.
We want one as agreed by your
agents. Could we then pay tue
money back? 1t had been expended
in various directions. We must be
ready to bite before barking. We
had TO consider our best business
interests. 1t was not always a good
thing to stick out for ones strict
legal rights. In thrashing our agents
we should be injuring the bond
holders, and we should have the
right to do the former just as much
after the delivery of the bonds as
before. He agreed with Mr.. Wilder
that no personal consideration should
stand in the way, but il such enter
prises as his were to benefit the
country they must be considered.
lie did not say that a suit should he
brought against the agents. He
first wished to know all the facts.
Therefore he could not support Mr..
Baldwin's position. The best course
was that set forth by Mr.. Kinney's
amendment. He at least approved
of its spirit.
Mr.. c. Brown argued that the
bonds should be sent forward by
the first opportunity.
Mr.. Paris and Mr.. Richardson
spoke in native, their remarks not
being Interpreted
Minister Ashford said he had the
utmost possible respect for the OPT
Mons of Messrs. Baldwin, Young,
Warehouse and Dole. They were
precisely the opinions he had him
self held at first, and he believed
every member of the Cabinet had
entertained them. For some time
after the 10000 matter had come
upon them like a thunder clap they
were so swelled up with righteous
Indignation that they were unable
to give il due consideration. How
ever, if these gentlemen had known
the facts earlier they might by this
time have reached somewhat diff
ferent conclusion. That PROPOSE
ton TO send along the bonds might
be termed a progressive proposition.
The Cabinet had progressed. With
the light of further explanations and
increased knowledge on the subject
he had been thoroughly converted,
and he thought that was the posi-
ton of almost every member of the
House who thought as they did.
The general purpose was to bring
cheap capital here from abroad, and
that was far above any considera-
ton of a paltry $4,000. There
fore let us no nothing to injure our
credit.
The ayes and noes were taken on
Mr.. Kinney's amendment, result
ing in 20 ayes and 29 noes.
The ayes and noes were then
taken on the section of the bill, with
the following result
Ayes-Green, G. Brown, Thurs
ton, Ashford, Wilder, Dowsett, ST.,
Castle, Smith, Luhiau, Motley,
Wall, Townsend, Hitchcock, Bailey,
Richardson, Campbell, Widemann,
Bertelmann, Hustace, Dowsett, Jr.,
Naone, Kauhi, G. Brown, +. Brown,
Deacon, Kamai, Mcguire, Kauhane,
Paris, Nawahine, Hor-
ner, Daniels, Kawainui, A. S. Will
cox, Gay, Nakaleka, Paehaole-38.
Noes-Robinson, Young, Jaeger,
Warehouse, Foster, Wight, Bald
win, Makee, G. N. Wilcox, Dole,
Kalaukoa, Kinney, Helekunihi-13.
The committee rose and reported
progress.
Minister Brown reported that it
had pleased His Majesty to sign an
Act to provide for the expenses of
the extra session of 1887.
The House then adjourned to 8
o'clock Tuesday morning.