The Memphis appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1886-1890, 1887-04-13
THE DEBATE RROPRNRD
ON THE CRIMES BILL In THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
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Sudden Campaign Against Aus
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LONDON, April 12.-Ths House Of
Commons resumed its settings this af-
ternoon. After Speaker Peel had
thanked the House for its indulgence
during his illness, Attorney General
Holmes reopened the debate on the
governments side In favor OF the
Irish crimes act amendment bill. Hs
commended that the mt ure was a fair
and reasonable one, and that none OF
lie provisi ms would interfere with
constitutional or public rights. The
HOUSE should remember, Mr.. Holmes
argued, that society in Ireland was in
q state Of disorganizition. That crime
went undetected and that the people
seemed 10 sympathizs with the crimi-
nals and thwarted attempts TO obtain
evidence. In cases where the evil
dencs was clear against prisoners, the
juriss refused to convict; 30 that the
system OF trial by jury had absolutely
broken down in Ireland. 1t was alb
suTd 10 say that crime In Ireland
should 20 unpublished rather than
that such effectual Q al the
changing Of venus should be taken to
HtEUIt Tue uut huulllllCtfn Niuh VI AhO
law. Nj. Holmes hoped 1t would not
be necessary, II the bill passed, to
have frequent recourse 10 change OF
venue. [Dsrisive Parnellite cheers
Referring to the question OF
summary jurisdiction, the Attorney
General said this was not the first
time such q provision had been made
10 deal with offenses. Under sum-
mary process the resident magistrates
in Ireland would be no more execu-
tive officers than the Justices of the
Peace in England, while every possible
safeguard would be taken 10 prevent
the Magistrates from interfering un-
lees the law OF the country were set at
defiance. As to the provision enabling
the Viceroy TO suppress dangerous ne
socia'ionB the bill left the exercise OF
the Viceroy's power under the veto Of
Parliament. The government adhered
TO the proposal to make the bill per-
petual. The miefortune In the enact
ment OF the past measures OF one kind
Was they we're not made perpetual.
Parliament could, OF course, repeal tho
present law whenever necessary, but
so long as Its power to sustain the law
was required, 10 wouli remain | q force.
The Right Hon. Hugh q. Child
ress said that although he supported
the amendment TO the bill he admitted
that some of the bills provisions
would not be Objectionable IL they
were made part OF a general law for
both Ireland and England; but those
features Of the proposed law which the
government especially intended to
apply to Irel md were unwarranted
and would be found to evoke disorder
instead OF remedying existing evils,
Why propose coercion when there was
no increase OF crime shown in Ire
land? Before the last election at least
ninety Conservative members Of Par
lament declared against any further
coercion. The Msrquis OF Saiisbury
himself stated that 1t was %imprsctica-
BILE and impossible 10 reimpose on Ire
land any measure like the former
crimes act. The government would
soon learn, should the present bill be.
come q law, how disastrous was their
recourse to the old and bad system of
repression-worse than ever now when
the representatives OF ive-eixthB OF
the Irish people opposed the measure.
Mr.. Ohilders protested strongly against
giving the proposed powers to the res
ident magistrate, whom he knew, he
said, would be unfit by reason OF their
lack Of legal training to properly exer-
else them, especially In cases involv-
ing the application of the extreme
provisions OF the Whiteboy acts and
the legal construction Of the word con-
spirscy. The proposal to try Irish
prisoners In England was among the
worst features Of the bill. Whist would
have been said II IL had bsen pro
posed TO send EOg,iehmen TO trial ouI
Of their W country for crimes com
mitted in itP Toe speaker ridiculed
the looBenets Of the definitions con-
tanned In the bill, and warned the gov
eInment that for this reason alone {
number Of its causes would prove
imperative.
IL oRIMEs BILL Will PASS,
LONDON, April 12.-There are In Tia,
Commons $40 Tories to 2I8 Gladstone
ites and Par uellitss. II "a Of the z
Union Liberals should join tho Glad
stoneites' and Parnelhtss which |
highly improbable, only 10 Of thos
being considered by the whips q
s~haky--an1 the SO remaining Uniol
Liberals, after the "a others had pre-
sumabiy joined the G~lRdatonitet
shoald assent themselves - her
would still be u coercion msjorit
that, with the c!oture now ruling
would enable the government to huaI
ly pasB the bill. That the bill will pas
lie 8 certainty.