The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-04-19
Mr.. Sexton, Gladstone and Others Discuss the
Balfour Bill, and the Measure Passes to
Second Reading Without Division.
Excitement Over Publication of Par
nell's Alleged Phoenix Park Letter.
The Irish Leader Says the Document Is q
Forgery, and Points Out Differences Be-
tween Genuine and False Signatures.
IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Coionel AinE-I1armau, now parliamentary On-
der Secretary for Ireland for the first time since
his appointment answered interrogatives re-
specting Irish affairs. Upon rising he was greet
ed with cheers by the government supporters,
and with groaus and derisive cries by the Par
nellites. He Stated. in response to question.
that since March l only two tenants had been
evicted from the Marquis of Lansdowne's estates.
These two, however, involved the eviction of six
teen b-tenants
Mr.. Sexton asked whether the government
would consent to rescind the suspension Of Mr..
Healy.
Mr. w a. Smith, First Lord of the Treasury,
replied forsthe government The duty they had
TO discharge on Friday night was most disagree
able. The government were sorry they were
forced to ask that Mr. Healy be named for
transgressing the orders Of the House. It
would be utterly cut of the question. however,
when no apology had been given for this breach
Of the decencies of debate, to rescind the sus-
pension. No motion to that effect could be en-
tertained without the general concurrence of
the House,
Mr.. Sexton inquired il it would be competent
for him to move the resembling of Healy's sus-
pension.
Speaker Peel replied that no motion would be
competent unless it appeared on the paper of
the House.
Mr.. Sexton said that in the absence of Mr..
Healy, he was authorized for him to say that If
Major Saunderson withdrew his offensive
charges. to which Mr.. Healys language was in
reply. Mr. HeaIy would withdraw the express
sion deemed by the House offensive.
Jacob Bright. Liberal and brother of John
Bright, asked why it was, when two members OF
the House committed the same offense, one was
suspended, while the other was not.
The Speaker said that, in ordinary circum-
stances, he would decline to answer that oues-
tioa, or any question implying that his action
was not impartial: but in the present crcum-
stances he would explain. In the second instance
in which a breach of the rules of the House had
been committed that of Dir. Sextonl an apology
followed the withdrawal of the expression caus-
ing the breach
Mr.. Sexton moved that Mr.. Healy be heard at
the bar of the House
The Speaker declared that this could not beY
done.
Mr.. Sexton asked Major Saunderson to with
draw his assertions regarding Healv. which
exasperated him into making the responses for
which he was suspended.
Mr.. Saunderson remaining silent, Mr. Glad
stone put to him the direct question whether he
was prepared to render the House apy assist
ance by withdrawal of his offensive express
sions. CONSERVATIVE cries of mo- .1No,"
Don't s.Dont"l
Mr.. Saunderson said he never alluded to
Healy, directly or indirectly, because be felt. as
regards Healy, that he was unable to substanti-
ate the charges to bring conviction to the
minds of the members of the House. Cries of
Hear. Hear."I The matter then dropped.
Subsequently. Mr.. Sexton, resumng the de-
bate the Irish crimes es-act-amendment BILL
said Mr.. Saunderson had charged him with di-
rect completely in crime. If the accusation were
we'll founded, why did the Irish Viceroy approve
his present appointment as high sheriff Of Dub
linz His name, as a member OF the League,
had been linked with that of Sheridan, the in
vlnclbe, but Sheridan was never a member of
the executive council of the Land League Did
Mr. Saunderson, in pointing to him
| (Mr. Sextonl, mean in reality to
| embarrass Colonel King. Harman, against whom
| for the new government Office of parliamentary
Under Secretary for Ireland? [Parnellite cheers
| For Sheridan and Colonel King Harman once
| canvassed the same constituency together. Mr..
| Egan was also treasurer of the old Land League,
| and was at one time intimate friends of Col
| onei ngHarman lCheers. They were fel.
| low-members of the council of the Home-ru
League; not only that, Egan wrote for the Col
| onel his political address to the electors.
| Laughter If past association with men
| chaged with crime meant completely in that
| crime, which side of the House was deepest in
/ assassination? 1t was manifes.:y an absurdity
| IOr SduuueTsOu 10 accuse the executive or the
| Land League of knowing that mon were MURDER
| ers because their names were mentioned in con-
| nection with Phoenix Park affairs. He (Mr.
| Sexton) never learned of any fact or any.
thing that had been proved which
| would warrant him in changing the opiniou
| he has always entertained-that Egan and those
| associated with him were innocent of the ma
| lignant charges brought against them. [Cries oi
| Hear" hear Mr.. Saundersons attack was
| both mean and cowardly It did not contain di
| charpaS WAS cd of in
| situations founded on scandalous rumors. Wher
exposed to the light of day. not rag of those
| scandalous fabrcations would hold together; no
| one of them would remain, whether they tool
the shape of simple lie or that Of manifest
| clumsy, malignant forgery. lParnelite cheers.
| Whatever shape they night henceforth take, thu
speaker would pay no attention to them. Th,
only way to argue with the sort of people wht
made such attacks was to horse-whip them Of
| take them before the law. It was hardly worth,
to take the former course and in the presen
state of English public feeling an action at Law
would be farce il an Irishman were tn,
| plaintiff Referring to the bill under corsidera
ton, Mr. Sexton said the measure threatened
extinction of the Irish National League. HI
would remind the House that the League wa
aided oy the prelates and clergy of the Catholic
Church, and had struggled TO maintain mora
law, yet this League, SO supported, was spoker
of as conspiracy, maintained by criminals ant
dynamiters. The bill itself was the crosses
kind OF an attempt at violation of moral law
SWOOl
all the cherished rights of the people,
was justified by nothing in the condition
of Ireland. The boycottine practiced by th
Irish people arose naturally from the irrepressi
bic growth of Irish public opinion, and the onl,
way to do without it to obtain for the law
governing the people of Ireland the sympathy o
those people. Mr.. Sexton, continuing, said j
was absurd to attempt to suppress body s
strong in the hearts of the Irish and so power
fully supported in Ireland and America as th
League, which, so far from being an accessor
to and an inciter of crime, labored to put
down. If the bill passed. it would, happily
hasten the ruin of the government. The da
which the downfall of the governmen
would witness the cessation of coercion
| fCheers
Lord Harrington. replying to denial by MI
Parnell, brought out. by the formers remari
that the Irish party in Parliament were connect
| ed with the Fenian organization in Americs
said that Mr.. Parnells denial, in the face of th
opposing proof furnished by the statement c
the Times this morning, together with the repro
ducrion of Mr. Parnell's letter. the publicatio
of which fully justified. was absolutel
worthless. In concluding, Lord Harrington sal
the government would certainly succeed in n
storing the authority of the law 1t would
impossible for it to be permanently paralyze
by the Vaccinations of secret societies.
Mr.. Balfour followed in support of the bill.
Mr. Parnell rose TO personal EXPLANATION
! and in an impassioned speech denied the stor