The Hawaiian gazette., 1887-11-15

been got over on Thursday, Section 3,
as amended by the majority of the
special committee, passed.
Noble Smith moved the penal sum
in Section 4, in which the Chairman
of each Board shall give bonds, shall
be fixed by the Minister of Interior.
Rep. G.. Brown moved the penal
sum be not less than the total road tax
of the district.
Rep. Paris said the Chairman ought
to give no bonds at all, or give bonds
for the full amount of the road tax of
his district, and that the same rule
should apply to all members of the
Board.
Rep. Kalaulloa moved the indefinite
postponement of the section.
Noble Smiths amendment carried
q to IS.
Section passed as amended.
Noble Richardson moved an amend
ment to Section ), that the meetings
of each Road Board be held in the
Courthouse of the district, or some
other public place, and that due notice
of such meetings be given. Carried.
Rep. Gay moved to amend Section
by striking out ''the first month Of
Lost by the casting vote of the
Chair.
The section passed as amended.
Noble Wight moved an amendment
to Section 6, providing that the records
and accounts of the Board be open at
the quarterly and other meetings of
the Board to the inspection of any tax
payer in the district, instead of the
words sat all reasonable hours,p as in
the bill. Carried.
Section passed as amended.
Noble Smith moved amendments to
section Z, % to insert after the word
"appear" in the last sentence the
words to the satisfaction of the Min
ister,n and (2) to add the clause "AIl
vacancies shall be filled by the appoint
ment of the Minister of INTERIOR
Rep. Kinney moved to strike out the
words publishing the reasons for his
removal.n Lost.
Minister Thurston moved that the
words off requested to do so by the
person removed be added. Carried.
Noble Smiths first amendment was
put and lost; the second passed.
The section passed as amended.
Rep. A. S. Wilcox moved a substi-
tute for section s, to which slight
amendments were offered and ac-
cepted. The substitute section is as
follows:
Section s. All road taxes shall be
paid to the Chairman of each Road
Board and the amount so paid in from
each district shall be placed to the
credit of such district and be paid en-
tirely upon the order of the Chairman
of the Road Board of such district, or
of majority thereof; and the said
Road Board shall pay to the Tax Col
lectors of such district the same COM
pensation for the collection of said
road tax, as is provided by law for the
collection of other taxes.
Minister 'Hhurston moved the section
pass as in the bill.
Noble Smith supported the amend
ment of the Hon. member for Hama
lei. Every appropriation in past years
has been guarded by a clause prohibit
ing the use of moneys from the Treas
ury for purposes other than those spe-
cited in the appropriation. And
yet, period after period, Ministers
had been doing that very thing
He had yet to learn that the present
Ministers had not done the same. In
fact, he felt sure that they had.
Minister Ashford agreed with the
main arguments of Noble Smith. If
the money was any surer to be applied
in the district where raised by keep
ing it there than by paying it into the
Treasury, he would say leave it in the
district by all means. But the amend
ment of the Hon. member for Hanalei
provides that the Road Boards check
out such sums as they require for their
district. But it must be remembered
that only one member of these boards
is under bonds and it is not unlikely
that cases may arise when two mem
bers of the board may outvote the
member who is made responsible by
penalties.
Rep. Helekunihi could see no reason
why the road moneys could not be
trusted with the Minister. 1t would
be time enough to withdraw confidence
from the present Ministers when they
showed themselves unworthy of it.
The House has more control over the
doings of Ministers than i'll former
years, when Ministers were not re-
sponsible to the House at all.
Minister ThurstOn believed in pre-
pairing for war in time of peace. The
House should act as if before the first
of May a worse Ministry than the Glib
son Ministry might be III power. He
had the misfortune to be a member of
the Legislature of 1856. He had talked
himself almost black in the face con-
tending for the principle of the amend
ment of the honorable member for
Hanalei, and might have been talking
on it yet had he not been shut off by
the previous question. The conditions |
now are entirely changed The stu
alton then was that the House was
full of office holders, who voted as
they were ordered, and burked all in
vestigations into the doings of Minis
tiers. The road money of last year had /
gone to Samoa on board the KaimiIoa.
At present, however, there is not an
office holder in the House, and he was
confident that if this Ministry's trans
actions Were not approved by the
House. the House would say so and |
out the Ministers would go. His adj
vocacy of bringing the money into the
treasury now, and his objections to the
same course last year, are very easily
explained. Then the public moneys were
not under control of the Legislature;