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Mischievous Benevolence.

No moro interesting fact has been brought
to Light by The Suns Investigation of the
condition Of New York sewing women than
that Of the mischief caused by well-meaning
but cisdirected benevolence. The wages Of
The slaves Of the sewing machine and Of the
needle are ground down and kept down, not
pnly by competition among self-supporting
workers and by that Of workers who have
fathers brothers, or husbands to lean upon,
but also by that Of workers who are partially
or wholly housed. fed. and clothed by charity.
Most conspicuous, but not by any means
most important, among the agencies which
indirectly help to reduce women's wages. are
the great institutions, both Catholic and
Protestant, which shelter and educate poor
girls, and which naturally, but thoughtless-
ty, make the recipients Of their bounty con-
tribute to their expenses by doing needle
work at prices below the market rate. Less
prominent, but probably more extensive, are
the results Of the aid extended by private
almonors TO perfectly well-deserving poor
women, who. In consequence Of the assist
ance thus given them, can afford to work for
wages which, without the addition Of aims,
would not suffice for their maintenance.
Every church has some such cases on its
books, and every family has one or more de-
pendents which 1t helps, not always in
money, but certainly with clothing, fuel, and
oftentimes with food, besides occasionally
paying arrears Of rent. The aggregate of
these little items makes a mighty whole,
and weighs with crushing force upon women
who are tooproud to accept such help, or 80
unfortunate 10 not to have 1t offered them.
This, however, is but one instance out Of
many In which benevolence does harm where
II means only to do good. The suferings Of
the unemployed in London have lately at
traoted attention even here, but, Of course,
stu more among the kind hearted in London
itself. The efforts to relieve 1t a not been
% widely made known as those which have
been put forth to repress the violence for
which 1t has been used as q pretence by
thieves and r%uf1ans. but they have been ex-
tsnsive, as they always arc among a rich and
religious community. Yet the writer Of q
ietter to the London Times, who says he has
bean living ct the East End Of London. and
has had unusually favorable opportunities
for gathering Information, gives these facts
~. A number Of lads who had been sleeping in Trafal.
SAf square were brought down 10 . home hero and given
lhsy hAe homes and not uneo.afortabls surroundings
with opportunities Of work, but deliberately slept out
because they prsfsrrsd vagabondaga adventure, and tho
chances Of charity. 4 Last year . wsll-known minister
- each occasion. The history Of each man was inquired
Into oaiy pr cent had learned . trade Or handicraft;
paly . par cent. were other shAn oocknsvS residential
ioafsrA and casual unskilisd labors1. 8. At the present
nomsns 'fosrpsnny beds IN lodging houses are, 1t IL
announced, being placed ct the disposal Of all applicants
|. a AzAS.s lAA ~ 800. A.. As..I .-.-A l.
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Henry Georges Opportunity.
Prom the Phuadslphia Timer.

Now that Henry George has been knocked
out of politics this thing for him to do is to take up a
tract OF land In the West and form q colony on the basis
OF full land value taxation, 10 that everybody can sec
how the scheme w0rgE.
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An Ultlmatun-

Father TRYING to read the paperl-what was
that awful racket In the hall Just nowf
Mother-One OF the children fell down the staira
ktFather urAscibly)-Wei you tell those children that
II they cannot fen down stairs quietly thsy won't be a.
lowed 70 fall down them ~ aM.
The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1887-11-27
THE SUN, SUNDAY NOVEMBER q. 1887 TWENTY PAGES:

Generals, 1877 Lieutcnant-G Generals, 1888 Major
Generals. 800 Colonies, $50 Lieutenant-C Col
onels, 1850 Majors. and 400 Generals on the
retired list.
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rho worry Of . constant cough and the soreness q
iungs which generally accompanies 1t are beth tSAd
sdied By Dr.. Jaynss Expeotorant-AsG y
San Marcos free press. [volume] (San Marcos, Tex.) 1877-1892, 1887-01-20
And Still They Come.

When such pronounced organ Of
Protection as the Philadelphia Times
declares in favor of tariff reduction
we are prone to pause and inquire;
lis Saul also among the prophets!"
One can hardly believe his own eyes
when he reads the following language
in last days issue Of the Times:
I'VE ere now extorting from the in
dustry of the people some 800, 10000
which are not needed for the legiti-
mate expenses of the government
Such excessive taxation is not only
unwise, but it is cruel in its oppres-
sion, and m open invitation to profit
gate legislation. Taxes must
be reduced; both parties are solemnly
pledged TO it,and the party that most
conspicuously fails in the fulfliment
of that promise will be likely to lose
the great battle of 1888. That is
sound enoungh tariff reform doctrine
for the West. The fact that it is
preached by the ablest exponent of
Protection in the great protection
state Of Pennsylvania is pretty good
evidence that the tariff reform move
is making a wide sweep. And yet
there are prominent Republican poll
ticians ia Minnesota who want to be
elected to the United States Senate
on a high tariff platform, Globe.
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800 REWARD. 500.

The readers of the papers viii
be pleased to learn that there is at
least one dreadful disease that science
has been able to cure in all its stages,
aud that is catarrh. Halls Catarrb
Cure is the only positive cure now
known in tie medical fraternity. Ca
tarrh being a constitutional disease
requires a constitution 81 treatment
Halls Catarrb Care is taken internal
ly. acting directly SPOD the blood and
mucus surfaces Of the system. there
BY destroying The foundation Of the
disease seaBdgiving the hepatientstrength
by Guiding mp the Constitution and
assisting nature IN doing its work
The proprietors have 80 much faith
IN its curative powers that they
offer Ooe hundred dollars for any case
u fails b cure. Sebd for Hst Of
tesfimonials Address.
2. J CHENEY A co. Toledo, o.
ES-A By Dsz-gissA 75ets
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O Hal AS 20
NO. 5.

Temporary home with her Old nurse. She
had come to the well that day with no
knowledge Of his presence In the neighbor-
hood. "For do you know. Roger" said
she, II Thought YOU would not care to see
me again. So many deserted me, after my
fathers failure and death, grew very bit
ter and discouraged. ,onder now at my
doubts, but you will forgive me, will you
not?"
st. Mar, listened with dazeJ, .fsxaway
feeling He told himself II was a dream.
from which no would awake directly and 20
back to all the disappointments Of life again.
But for the present he had been transport
cd to Oberon and Htana's kingdom, and
Robin Goodfellow, had cast the magic love
glamor over him. A weird, mystical glow
fell around him. Sparkling little naiades,
flashed in and out of the dashing spray, that
tossed its rainbow showers over the fern,
stretching their feathery fronds, thirstily,
for the glistening drops Little elves, crept
out Of the acorn cups and frisksd gaily
around. Fairies, danced lightly over tho
flowers, aud
'Seek some dewdrops here
Aud hang pearl in every cowslip's ear"
Meanwhile they all wait and wonder what
has become of ST. Mar.
Perhaps" suggested Mr.. Temple, "like
Narcissus he hus become u victim to his
own charms and can't tear himself away"
At last they grow tired of waiting and
proceed to the we'll They used speech
less and aghast. Mt the sight of St. Mar,
holding the hands of an unknown maiden,
gazing down into her face with dazed far
away look.
Mr.. Travcrs, alone is able to grasp the
situation. 'By jove! My golden haired
Lillian with ST. Mar" he muttered under
his breath.
"Neddie," said Mrs. Edward Collincote,
loooking at her husband across the cozy
breakfast tnble, II think Lillian 81. Mar is
the sweetest woman ever saw. And did
you ever see such change, as there is in
the Doctor? / told you he was grieving
over some love affair, ,and was right, wasn't
II"
And Mr.. Colincotc, like the sensible man
he was. replied; "Of course you were,
Natalie"
Mr.. Frank Temple still exists In state Of
single blessedness, much to his own sats-
fnction and to the secret disapproval of the
fair Miss Granger.
The marriage of Mr.. Tavers, and Miss
Collincote, did come off, aud Mrs. Travers,
now has the satisfaction Of paying her hus-
bands bills, which are not like angels visits
few and far between"
MIR. Travers still retains his admiration
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For the FREE Pass.
VENUS.

|
One morn when Ph@bus tipped with gold
The glittering ocean waves;
Fair Venus, with her graceful nymphs,
Rose up from the coral caves
The dainty shell, by tritons drawn,
Flew across tho sparkling sea;
To where Mount Cythera's nowery peak
Smiled DER the emerald lea.
His magic Tyre then Orpheus touched
And he played her sweetest strain,
As on the shore the goddess sprang
With her merry, elfish train.
Beneath her fairy feet there sprang
The brightest blooming flowers;
And waiting for her smiling stood,
The happy ro Hours.
In silver car by white doves drawn
Sho flew onward through the mir,
To where the gods expectant stood
Upon Mount Olympus fair.
Aud Cupid, too, her lovely boy,
Sped onward by her side,
And when among the waiting gods
Grim Vulcan he espied,
He slyly drew his golden bow
And aimed n pointed DART
Which straight TO m ghty Vulcan flew,
And pierced his quivering heart,
In dire surprise the mighty smith
His grimmy hands he prest,
To still the throb of joy and pain
Within his heaviug breast
Then Venus with reproving look,
Turned to her gleeful son;
"rhou little elfish sprite," said she,
What mischief has thou done?"
And Cupid, with n rougish smile,
Drew forth another dart,
And ere the goddess knew her thought,
He lodged it in her heart.
"reke back thy dare" she sighing cried.
But away he flew in glee.
81 thus repay" he laughing said,
''All those who chide with me-"
San Marcos. BESSIE SMITH.
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i;siV;s SIS.

= NETHODlST.-Preachimg al the Methodist
Church every iabbai h, Rev v. II. II. Riggs, Pastor
Sunday school at % M. 81, giHg al o 'Clo'k p. M
Prayer Meeting on Wednesday.
CHRISTIANS. - Elder !. j. Williamson, Pastor
Sunday school al 3 a. m. \ cordial invitation ex
sended to all.
PRE- BYrERlAN.-SnrvIces 2hd aud 4th Sundays
each monlh. Rev j. u French, pastor. Sunday
Hcho"l very Sabbath 3, $50 a. nj. PRAYER Meet
ng every thursday at T"0 =, m. All a'e invi ed
to attend.
PROTESTANT EptSCOP Ai.--Rev. n. r. Fuller,
Pastor. Services the 2ud anG 4th SGrdalu In each
nonb Sunday school every SUNDAY.
nAPTIST.-Preaching at the baptist Church
. every SUNDAY. Rev. W. D. Beverley, Pastor,
Sunday School at a. IN.
q CATHOLIC, C,-serviccs 4th Sunday in each mvnth.
fev. Father smith Pastor.
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AT THE WISHING WE'LL.

Hang it. must have taken the wrong
direction" said Mr.. Phil Travers.
II am sure l have" he added, with grow
ing conviction, as he tramped on and on
and still found himself confronted by an
unknown Kentucky landscape. 1t was an
unusually sultry day in June, and wander.
ing alone through an unfamiliar woodland
was not the most delightful recreation; so
Mr.. Travers' mind was fast beginning to
border upon the profane,
Hello, there's house at last!" he said
in tones of relief. And he made his way to
neat. white cottage with n garden in
'front.' where roses. verbenas and sweet, old
fashion p;nks We'd with each other in folal
splendor.
A large, back newfoundland dog lying
upon the little, vine-clad porch, rose at his
approach, and, with ominous grows and ap
alarming display of teeth, disputed his en-
trance.
His demonstration brought young girl
to the door, and us Mr. Travers lifted his
hat with one of his best society bows, it
struck him that 30 lovely apiece of fcmin-
inc flesh it was seldom his good fortune to
see.
She was rather tall and slight. with n
complexion of dazzling whiteness, softly
tinted checks; poutng, cherry lips and
large. dreamy, violet eyes. Her soft, golden
hair was coled high upon her shapely head,
around her white forehead.
She was attired in neat prints dress,
with spotless collar and snowy apron. Her
sleeves were tt cke1 up above the dimpled
elbows, showing the round, plump arms,
and the smallest, pcetti.st feet imaginable
reeped out from under her rather short
skirts.
"Your dog seems rather vicious and uu-
friendly" said I'ravers. his bold eyes rest
ing W tn open admiration upon the lovely
face befole him.
THAT is something stalge," she said,
in the most musical of voices; 'he is usually
very friendly and kind. Thee Carlo, be
quiet, sir" laying one hand upon his shag-
gy head. But Carlo only shook his big
head obstinately, and expressed his dislike
of Mr.. Travers with low growls and short
barks.
What is it. Lillian" asked a voice. and
a stout middle-aged woman made Eer ap-
pelrance upon the scene. Observing the
look Of admiration upon Travers' face, she
eyed him with great disfayor, AID said un-
gracIously:
IF you are an agent, there is no neel to
stop, as We never patronizs them"
But am not an agent, madam" said
Trayers. half amused, half annoyed. by her
brusqueness. u have lot my way and
simply called TO ask if you can direct me 10
Mrs. CJllincote's residence, FerEley:"
"FerBlcy." " said sbe. looking sourer than
ever. lis at least tgo miles. II sou will
follow that road TO the right there it vii
lead you 10 the pike, aId perhaps Jon know
the way froIa there
Travers would fain have fingered for an
other look into Liiiian's vioiet eyes: but
she had tHF5ssd and re-eUtered The hou-e.
When the elder woman made her sppsarauee,
- there vss nothing but TO take hss deJar-
turs.
'SeveT mird. I Iui1 see yoa again. ~
fairy Liliisr, IN size q that cd sbs-d-z-
goa and tlIat savage lruis q deg- BE-
tho1gh;, as Be- ragfad Iisltiy over ia l9r
fence
Two milss = loug di-tsBos - s1rsd
nso- al TFavs-s vas vsry gi.d 10 ra-,h
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vi s,S.

ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE OE. TO AND
FROM SAN MARCOS POST OFFICE.
Mails from Austin arrive at :. a m. ana $40
u M; CLOSE at T.25 II. M. aid S:Iu p. N.
f M,ils trnm san iutnuio arrive at S3L a. and
$40 n. M close at sofa. M and 6 10 p. M.
Luiing, arrives at l2 NJ E, closes at l9:45. +. M.
hove mails arrive and depart daily.
Rlico, via Wimbprley- departs Tuesday a nd Friday
al q i. N. Arrives Monday and Thursday at
: p. n.
HOURS,
General Delivery from $ 4. NJ, to II y aud from
y y. N. to5 ?. 81 except during distr!uui0n Of
mails and on Sundays aud holidays open on
Sundays thirty minutes after distribution vi each
the principal mails.
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free Of charge and postage prepaid in
ali eases.
Th- maay Losses caused by fai!1res. rblsry Of
.nd petty tbc.is on; fthe nall. make it 'UsOlGte-
Is necessary to ssud eai.idrrsble suns hy postal
order, registered letter or trsh.
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Re uas boiiing tie hauis ani gazing
6ozn ilts the fac q his littls sss-ihsart.
L1iau Hszision- No hai disappeared
sa1ss maths bsf1rs. dsring his sb-snfe
from bon, s.i fgr rsS-n BE- h.i bssa 80
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Ttsrs uere ergfr. i1c5hsrsuf q1ssfio1s
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The following is said to be COR
rect statement of the volumes that
some of our college and university
libraries have: Harvard, $4,000;
Rale, 115.000; Dartmouth, 10000;
Cornell, $4,000; Brown, $1,000: COL
umbia, $1,000; Williams, $4,000;
Princeton, $4,000; Michigan, 41,000;
Iowa, $4,000; Oberiin, $4,000.
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Telephoning betwe n New Y,rk
and Philadelphia is now as easy as it
was between points block apart
few months ago.
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VOL. XVI.
GENERAL DIRECTORY.
OFFICIAL.


cosoRxssMAs-Sra DISTRICT:
Hon. James r. Miller, Of Gonzales County.
sEsAros 25rH DIsTnIcr;
Hon. W. II. Burges, =. Guadai"pe Co.
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES DISTRICT;
Hon. Geo. McGehee, OF Hays Co.
Hon. J. I. Ellison. OF Caldwell Co.
DISTRICT 0ouRr--2sgp DISTRICT.
Hon. q. Teichmueller, Presiding Judge. LaGrange.
]. VI. Bethany. Attorney, Austin Co.
rInEs OF HOLDING COURT.
HaYs-lst Mondays In March aud September. May
continue three weeks.
COUNTY OFFICERS.
I'd r. Kone, Judge County Court.
Jas, u. Burleson, Dist. aud County Clerk.
b. C. Neighbors, County Attorney.
jas, A, Wren sheriff. J. NJ. Turner Deputy.
G's. Cock, Justice Of the Peace Pres No.
II. G. Hubbs,
10; \, W. noss, s;,.s :: {" "" :. 81 )
J.H. Patterson, County Treasurer.
X. s. FortsUn, Assessor.
Otto Groos, Surveyor.
". l.. owen Com'r Precinct No. !
y. \ Vaughn :. :. :.
II. q. Hubbs, " -'
Ueter Schmi,t, "
". l.. .teSk Constable precinct No.
J-pp Henson,
S. II zone, I"
TIMES or hoLDiSG COuHTY AND fREcisof COURTS
County Court for CRIMINAL, Civil and Probate bus-
iness-4,h Mondaysin January, March, May, July.
september and November.
Commissioners Court-2d Mondays In February,
May, August and November.
Justice Court, Precinct No. Last Monday In
each IN nth. at san Narcos.
Precinct No. 2-2d Friday in each month Mt City.
- SD - Wimberley's MILL
.. 18th Sat. Dripping Springs.
TOWN OFEIcHRS.
Nayor-Wm. Gicsen.
81 Council-W. D, Wood. G. W. Donaldson, John
Williamson, u. A. lover, Ed. J. l.. Green, r J. c.
Smith Dan IlO'henz and Roger BNrne.
Narshrl-Wm. Il. !.yeil
Street CommissUner-Samucl Watkins.
Council meets the first Tuesday in each month.
Merchants Exchange. MEETS the first Friday
iybi in each month al the Mayors % lice.
Public School Trustees meet first Monday in each
month at the Mayors Office.
Los Angeles daily herald., 1887-09-25

DION BoUoIcAuLr, the eminent play
wright and actor, will appear at our
beautiful Opera House during the en-
tire current week. He presents a
very attractive bill, and will no doubt
delight the lovers of the drama.
Among other plays, he will present
Phryne, new addition to his
repertoire. The name is said to be an
utter misnomer, as there is nothing in
the drama to recall the celebrated
courtesan of Thebes, who wished to
rebuild it's walls after they were de-
stroyed by Alexander the Great, on
condition that this inscription should
be put upon the new defences Of the
town: "These walls were destroyed
by Alexander, and rebuilt by
Phryne." 1t is unfortunate that such
a n anne should have been given the
play, as about one dramatic critic in
ten spells it correctly. The fair, but
frail Beotian would hardly know
herself if she saw the Patronymic
contorted, as we usually do, into
Phyrne.
Los Angeles daily herald., 1887-09-25

THE real estate sales Of Friday, as
they appeared at the Recorders office,
footed up only little over 500, 900.
This gave occasion for few weak
kneed and slow-brained people to pre-
dict collapse. If these croakers,
whose voice is always heard in the
land, no matter how prosperous times
are, would or rather could think, they
nigh thave observed that there were
fully one-half the recorded sales re-
ported at a nominal considera-
ton. Sales SO reported are
very often for very large sums. Now,
on Friday, there were about one hun
dred and eight sales made, and the
aggregate OF the considerations was
hardly less than 100000. But if this
view is disputed, or not sufficiently re-
assuring to the weakened brethren,
they should all take a glance at the
transfers recorded yesterday, when
they numbered one hundred and
eighteen, and the total amount ran uI
to s4OO,52S. That is pretty well fol
dull times. The coming winter will
see wild times in the sale of realty
hereabouts.
Los Angeles daily herald., 1887-09-25

The Board of Health proposes a
scheme to get rid Of the offal and gar
bage Of the city for the small outlay Of
$25O0 per annum. This is to include
the removal and obstruction of all
offal and garbage placed on the side
walks by housekeepers in the city.
In making contract for such service
some very stringent provisions should
be made for the removal of this mat
ter at proper hours, and in carts con-
structed for the purpose. To let
offensive ofial stand under the rays of
the sun along the sidewalks until past
midday, or to allow the removal of
this in open, old and leaking carts. is
something ineffably out of the proper
order Of things. Garbage should be
all taken away in the early hours OF
the morning and soon after it is placed
on the sidewalks. 1t should be car
ried in water-tight wagons, with
proper covers on them.
Los Angeles daily herald., 1887-09-25

ALL well disposed people are
anxiously desirous of seeing the street
paving, now happily begun, carried
on with vigor, and big showing
made in the way of perfect streets
before the winter gets here with its
streams of water, and floods of fastid-
ious visitors. The matter is very i'm
portant. Yet in spite of our universal
interest in this thing, few of us will
undergo a very small inconvenience
in order to aid the good work. The
City Council, however, has taken the
matter up in real earnest, and that
body proposes to do all possible to
expedite the paving business. To
morrow an ordinance will be pre-
sented, and will doubtless pass, au-
thorizing those engaged in paving the
streets, to obstruct all one side of the
street, to the extent of one block at a
time, so that the workmen may oper-
ate without interruption. This is en-
tirely usual step to take under the
circumstances, and where it works a
little hardship, we must all make the
best of it, and in the most amiable
spirit. A measure will pass also, call.
ing upon the gas and water companies
to keep ahead of the paving, in the
making of the necessary changes in
connections incident to the making o
the streets. These corporations are
fortunately in the hands of good bust
ness men, who doubtless will see the
propriety of this.