The Palatka daily news. (Palatka, Fla.) 1884-1888, 1887-04-01
INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR CALL.
The Times-unon Ans~efed The Hampton ana the
Wales Bills histon OF the Claims

states t'oIlrt toT several DAYS upon tn.
Indian War Claims, from which ".
MAX" several eNtracts:
.. Is the history of the Indian Mar
claim. a. given 10y Nh, Jones in the ar
ticlr in ia. Times IHioH. correct. aud il
not. please state the facts r.
\. II believe il j. known. and l. the
general opinion of those who are in
! formed on the sublect. that Mr. 4. II
| Jones and his Washington CorrespoI-
dents habituallN misrrpr--"nt n. aud all
| others who cannot be used bN them IN
their schemes and their attempt Ia con
trol the State for their personal ends
The statement of Mr.. jones. ia respect e.
| this Indian War claim. are all made in
the interest of the Wales contract aud
th" lobbyist, of Washington. and for the
| pnrI"'~" of obtaining the Sl5.Ooo out of
every SlWhD collected from the United
States. II the Wales bill. which passed
the Housr. should have become a law.
and S.0O.ooo. or about that sum. had
been paid Ia the stat" IA cancellation
of the Indian War debit and in money. +.
then. according Ia Governor BloNham :
| letter. Mr.. WALES and his Washington
| lobby and other associatrs. If he has
any. would have rec.i,rd. under
this alleged contract. seven times sl5.-
| oa. or about SlO5 900.
The Hampton hill. senator call SAYS.
brought Ia the State
= First. ia" out standing debt. being
bonds of the State of Florida to the In
dian Trust Fund nf the United States
| bearing . per cent. interest PRINCIPAL
about SlD.oo; second. interest Ia the
time of report of the War Department
x225.OD: third. interest from lss2 ill
1855. when the Hampton bill passed
| x;6.oD: fourth, in money. Sy2 900; fifth.
| in money held bN the Treasury Depart
ment. $50 Ooo. making S5i3.oo0. None
of this money paid under the Hampton
bill could with any kind of propriety
| have been paid over under the Wales
contract. a. If the bill had passed il
would haV" b"come u law. without any
kind of ~.rvice or labor rendered under
that contract. TIL" objections Ia il Mere
| oyercom" in the Senate committee by
Senator Hampton and II became unani-
nous report Of the committee and passed
the Senate without objection.
q. Why did they throw away this
large sum which the State was certain to
obtain. for ia" mere hope and the slen-
| der hope of getting only 500. 900 or less
| ls there any reason why this claim could
not have bren made after th" passage Of
the Hampton hill =
\. The claim for interest could have
he.'n made Just as well after ia" passage
Of the Hampton hill ~ before. Congress
has absolute power over the subject. and
could il il chose pass AT amy time the bill
| for interest. Tia. probability Of the State
getting the interest after the passage of
the Hampton hill would have hren
greater than without the passage of the
bill
.. The loss. then. tn the State Of this
large amount H. due Ia the introduction
of the WALES Till and the refusal to ar-
cept the Hampton hill tor the hope of
obtaining SlOo.uo0 for ia. State and
fl0J.0o for Mr. Wailes and hi- asso-
ciates
4. "Nrs that is a correct statement
of the ci,se The hill was. n IL effect,
| not "A hill ia the interest of the STATE 81
| the people of the state. bat for the relief
and benefit "f Mr.. Wales and his a-so-
ciat"S.
-. Did you ever MAX" any efforts
Ia have the Indian War soldiers and
their widows and children paid. and are
| there such claims outstandingy Mr.. 4.
| II. Jones. in the TtHtes- H,OB. SAYS you
do not understand the subject and are
| ignorant Of the facts. What have you
to say about this
| A. "EVerybdy knows and has known
la the S.ate that there are unpaid claims
| of several companies and that their wild
| oNs and children have a right 10 their
payment and need the money. ! have
| several times introduced bills Is.fore the
committees of the Senate for TIA" audit
| ing and payment of III" claims of these
unpaid soldiers. their widows and chill
| dren. 10y the United States. aud for re
| auditing the Williams scrip ou the best
| Iata that can NOW lss haH. Ha We
never received any aid in this from the
WALES combination. nor from anyone,
| except Mr.. David son, TIA. Member of
! Congress from the First District MIR
Jones statements that | am ignorant of
| the fact that these claims have already
| been paid by the State and are Ia be re
| funded Ia her and that therefore my
proposition to amend the hill requiring
| il Ia be paid to the unpaid soldier, a. an
evidenr" 81 my ignorance. -. ! think,
| quit. "a foolish a. his other statements
| l. the fact that the State paid other com
| panie~ and that the money ~ 10 be re-
| funded to her, amy reason why the
soldiers who have not been paid, who
were called ont by her and employed in
| the same service. and IN the same war
/ should not he paid. and why their wild
ows and children should be left unpaid:
| L. there any reason in this fact why
xI05.Vp should be given 10 the Wales
combination out of this Indian war mon
~ while these soldiers who served ia the
war and were promised payment 10y the
State and their widows and children are
left unpaid:
This IL Mr. Jones proposition and
this il the subject of his frequent attacks
on me. II i. always the SlOj 900 Ia bc
paid Ia Mr. Wales and his as~ociates.
| Who gets this xl0j.Do0: Who are the
| as-priat.-~s They are not the people of
/ Florida. They are not the state of
Florida. Why then. and for what reason
do they persistentlv advocate the re- pec-
tion Of the Hampton bill and the $500.
| Do0 il gives Ia the State: They can take
the responsibility. The failure of neither
| Of these bills rests upon me.
q. What have you Ia say about the
statement that Won selected senator
| Jones. Of Arkansas. Ia refer th" Wales
| bill to-
A 1T il entirely untrue Mr.. Dough
! erty asked me To- request Mr.. SpDoner.
/ chairman Of the Committee on Claims.
4 to refer this till Ia senator Jones Of Ar
I kansas. ! stated Ia Mr.. SpoDner that
I the MeInher of Congress from the Second
/ District. Mr.. Dougherty. had requested
| me to say this to him. and he made the
I reference to senator Jones At Mr..
I Dougherty's special request. had
nothing to do with il. A. "A matter Of
/ principle did everything that i was
Ya...paklX r.aII.Sf..l Ia do Ia aiI the