Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1887-07-09
TREfRISH GRIMES BILL.
sr,e Debate Continued I'm the n case
Of Commons.

by Anglo American cable TO the Dispatch
LONDOv, July S.-Lord Harrington,
in the House of Commons this after
neon, continuing the debate on the
Irish crimes bill, said that he re-
coguized that every portion Of the ma
Jority supporting the measure must
bear its iull OHUs of responsibility for
v hat has been done. The party with
which be himself was connected desired
that there should not be the slightest
doubt OF their full acceptance OF the
Governments policy towards Ireland.
Mr.. Gladstone had said that the opin-
ion of the civilized world condemned
tho action of England, the opponents Of
that opinion being the literature OF the
world, but the same authority which
had also told them the opinion OF the
educated classes on the question was
only distinguished by selfsuiiiciency
and shalloKness. TCheers. so long
as the Liberal Unionists were sup
ported by the thinking and cultured
classes OF England they would CON
tinue with confidence in this course,
"for," added he, "surely the masses
cannot have better knowledge than the
educated classes of the relations be-
tween England and ireland. v
John Dillon said he was prepared to
legally acknowledge the duty OF Irish
men to the empire, but he held that
their first duty was to the welfare and
liberty of the Irish people. His party
represented q vast AMI overwhelming
majority OF the people whose fortune
the bill affected, aud those who
contondod that the will Of the majority
ought to prevail ought not to
assist in passing the measure. The
head and front Of the Irish mcmbers
offending was that for seven years they
had devoted themselves to a strugg to
induce their countrymcn to abandon
violence and trust TO agitation IN Par
lament; vet they were stigmat'zed
as associates Of assassins. The
OPINION of no civilized country
i'm the world, he continued, WAS OF
moro value to intelligent Englishmen
than that Of America. 1t was absurd
TO state that nine tenths Of the cdu-
Gated people OF America were not on
the side Of ireland. Unque-tionablythe
whole American press was on their side.
lie maintained that O'Bricn s mission
had been n conspicuous success both
in the United States and in Canada.
Sir William Harcourt criticised the
bill at length. In conclusion, he said
that every town AID village in the
kingdom should be made to unlcr-
stand that the Government refused to
Irish tenants that protection from an
old oppressive law against combina-
tons which they granted to trades
unions. The people could not always
he deceived by the DOGGY of " Parnell-
.sm.' Crime was dying out, the Glad
,tonians UorA daily gaining and pro
iessed Unionists losing votes, aud the
home-ulc cause was certain to win III
The long nun.
Mr.. Goschen then rose to speak,
whereupon the Parnellites left the
House in a body. Goschen said he
would not stop to inquire when Parnell
ceased to be 4 DOGGY to Harcourt. The
Governments contention was not that
the bill WAS justified because others rs
drastic had been passed, but that 1t was
necessary.
The bill was only permanent in the
sense that the Government refused to
publish the date upon which the bill
should cease to operate, and the Gov
eminent did this because experience
had shown that half OF the ineiliciency
Of preceding similar measures WAS
due to the fact that they operated for
too short a period. Referring TO Glad
stones bills, he said the Conservatives
had defeated both of them.
Hear, hear" shouted Gladstone,
amid laughter and cheers, and GOschen
exclaimed. "Oho splendid admission
Ohio splendid repentance.
Continuing, Mr.. Goschen denied that
the literature Of the civilized world
condemned the Governments policy.
The Americans in their struggle for the
maintenance Of the Union We're not in
huenced by the opinion of English
statesmen, and if in America opinion
was against the continuance OF the
union of England and Ireland, which
he did not believe, the Unionists would
not be influenced by that opinion III
their defence of such cause.
Mr.. Redmond concluded the debate
amid signs of Impotence.
The crimes bill then passed its third
reading by vote of $40 to 262. The
announcement of the vote was received
with cheers and counter cheers.