The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-06-14
Explorer Stanley Expects to Reap Vast
Profits from His African Ventures.
Reiteration of the Statement that the Throat
Ailment of the German Crown Prince Is
Fatal in Its Character-Cable Notes.
THE IRISH CRIMES BILL.
Gladstone Protests Against Wasting Tim
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Gladstone Protests Against Wasting Time In
Futile Discussion.
LONDON. June I3-The House of Commons
this evening resumed debate on the coercion bill.
taking up the fifth clause which deals with the
procaiming of districts. Henry Fowler Liberal,
proposed, as an amendment that proclamations
be made by order of the Privy Council instead of
by the Viceroy. He urged that a change of such
Importance as the proclamng of district should
be made by the imperial instead OF by the Irish
executive.
Mr.. Balfour, Chief Secretary for ireland, de-
clined to accept the amendment He reminded
the House that the government collectively
were responsible for every act of the Irish
executive.
Messrs. Healy, Mcneil. Clancy and Dillon,
Nationalists. SUCCESSFULLY supported the amend
ment
Mr.. Gladstone suggested that the members
should not spend any more of the short time at
their command in futile discussion. It would be
better, he said. to employ the remaining time in
discussing weightier points.
Mr.. Smith said he was anxious to allow suf-
fcient time for the discussion of substantial
questions, and he hoped the opposition would
assist the government in this direction.
NJ. Fowler offered to withdraw his amend
ment.
Mr. Dillon protested. He declined to take ad-
vice from the government as to what amend
ments should be discussed in the miserable
period left to the Parnellites to contest the
measure.
Mr.. Morley said he was Mr.. Gladstone
had not meant to suggest that the opposition as
sist in limiting the debate in accordance with
the governments ideas. The opinions of the
porr %ha ra1o ;r,v,o of
amendments deserved more attention than the
opinions of the English members.
The amendment was put to e division and was
reiected-235 to 16z.
Mr.. Doherty moved an amendment that proc
lamatons be issued only on the report of a
Judge of the high court after a local inquiry.
Mr.. Holmes, the Irish Attorney general, op-
posed the amendment on the ground that il was
not advisable to remove any responsibility from
the executive. local inquiry. he said, would
be valueless, because the judge would have no
power to take evidence oath.
Mr. Clancey said that the government would
have been more candid if they had given as the
reason for their opposition to the amendment
their desire to retain, for political purposes. the
power of proclaiming a district The amend
ment was rejected by a vote of 202 to 126.
Mr.. Shaw -Lefevre moved amendment linn
iting the authority OF the Viceroy In proclaim
ing districts where it might be necessary for the
prevention Of crime and outrage. He appealed
to the government to assent to the alteration.
which. he said, would bring the clause in accord
with the act of 1882.
Sir r. Il. Webster, Attorney general said that
it was refreshing to hear Mr.. Shaw Lefevre de-
fning the act Of 1882. The government, he
added, could not accept the proposal. The oh
ject of the bill being to punish the authors
we'll as to prevent the commission of crime, the
unr1h ham he aeinr nf tbo
measure.
Mr. Morley said he had never heard s more
ludicrous reason given for the omission of an i'm
portant limitation. It showed that the real object
of the bill was not the prevention of crime but
the suppression Of political combinations.
Cheers
views Of the government. the words ''and pun
ishment" be added to the amendmenI after the
word prevention"
Mr. Balfour announced that the government
accepted the amendment with Mr. Bradlaugh's
modification. Cheers
An amendment providing that a proclamation
should endure six months. and another providing
that weeks notice should be given, were re-
jected.
The government accepted an amendment
offered by Mr.. Fowler making proclamations
subject to the veto of either house of Parlia-
ment
After several other amendments had been
rejected, Attorney. general Holmes moved to
amend the clause by making summary jurisdic-
ton and change of venue apply to crimes COM
such crimes be committed after the passing of
the act
Mr.. Healy said he considered the proposal
breach of faith, made in order TO occupy the
little time that was left for discussion.
The amendment was carried by q vote of 227