St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1887-11-11


affidavit before the notary public of the
prison 10 the effect that he knew the
man who threw the Haymarket bomb
The affidavit is substantially as follows
II am thirty-slx years of age; was
born in Mecklenberg, Germany. have
wife and three children in Hamburg.
Have been three years and five months
in this country. / last resided at 475
East Seventy-fOurth street, New York.
Early in January, 1887, was introduced
to Klimann Scheutz by William Seharf.
1 often heard Scharf speak Of Scheutz.
Scharf told me Scheutz was an anarch-
list and
KNEW ALL ABOUT ANARCHY.
This was at 415 East Eighty-frst
street. Mrs. Horst was present. The
first time after that saw Scheutz was
on Sunday morning two weeks later.
He spoke of anarchy, dynamite and
arson and of the bomb at the Haymar-
ket. He told me that he had resided in
Chicago at the time and that he had to
make his escape. | asked him why he
had to make his escape. He said that the
police suspected that he was concerned
and that he got away. Scharf was
present at this interview. They are
both anarchists. This conversation
took place at Z a. m. / asked Scheuts If
he knew anything about the Haymar-
ket bomb and he said: speaking is
silver; silence is gold" The second
conversation / had with Scheutz was
during the first week in February at
the corner of Eighty first street and
First avenue. ScheutZ wanted me to
help him kill man in Fifty-f street.
He said the man must be killed In
the daytime, because he had $1,000 in
his safe. He showed me sand-bag and
club. / refused to have anything to
do with him. He said: YOU'RE no good.
] have done worse than that. l was one
of the anarchists in Chicago. | threw
the bomb. Others are suffering for it.
But that's none of my business He
told me that
HE HAD THREE BOMBS
in his satchel and that he had been be-
hind wagon at the time of the Hay
market riot. 1t had been agreed to
throw the bombs when the police inter-
fered. But the bloOdhoundS came too
late. He said: Il threw one blue bean. "
He said he was sorry he could not throw
the other two. / asked him why he
came to New York and he said that he
said that he heard of the arrests after
the riot and after waiting four or five
days to avoid suspicion he left Chi
cagO. My next conversation with him
was one week later at No. 306 East
Seventy-SiXth street. There he showed
me two pieces of iron or at least they
looked like iron. He asked me if l had
ever seen bomb. l told him no. He
if l wanted one. l asked him if they
were loaded and he said: "A good anar-
chist would never carry anything
but loaded bombs He told me
that those bombs were genuine.
I told him l did not want
anything to do with them. My next
conversation with him was on Feb. IS.
Scharf was present. They talked about
the condemned anarchists, and ScheutZ
said: If they hang those men Grinnell
and the twelve men must die like dogs.
My fourth conversation with him
was about two weeks later. He spoke
about the bombs and said that he
had been present at the meeting held in
Irving hall at the time the anarchists
were sentenced. He had satchel at
that time containing three bombs, and
he said he would have thrown them had
the blood hounds become unbearable.
ScheutZ lives at No. 1156 First avenue,
and is a carpenter"
Scheutz was the principal witness for
the people at Mayhoff's trial, and at that
time statements were made in court to
the effect that
BOTH MEN WERE ANARCHISTS.
ScheutZ is employed in the repair
shops of the Third avenue surface
railway shops, and is said to have been
an officer in one of the foremost societies
of anarchists in the country. Mr.. Wag-
ener said that he had great faith in the
affidavit from what he knew of the case
before. When asked why he did not
make public the facts before, he said:
''The affidavit was made on
Nov. 9, and in German.
communicated with the counsel
for the condemned men and acted ac-
cording to his instructions. Invent to
Supt. of Police Murray tonight and
asked him to search the premises Occu-
pied by ScheutZ, and he told me that it
would be necessary for me to get war
rant. / have no interest in the case
other than common humanity. L am
not an anarchist, socialist, nor a COM
munist, but plain everyday American
citizen, but candidly and honestly be-
lieve that the contents of the affidavit
are true"
Gen. Roger A. Pryor was seen at an
early hour this morning by reporter
and questioned regarding the anthem
ITCHY of Mahoff's affidavit. He said
that he knew that Lawyer Wagner had
in his possession long affidavit re-
garding the person who threw the
bomb at the Haymarket riot in Chi
cago. He knew that Lawyer
Wagner had intended to com
municate the facts in his possession to
Gov. Oglesby. Whether or no he had
done so he could not say. Gen. Pryor
was extremely guarded in his state
ments and expressed the desire to be
carefully quoted. He said, however,
that he was convinced OF the anthem
ITCHY of the affidavit. The details of
the case were all in Mr.. Wagener's
hands and he referred the reporter to