Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1887-05-18

trOus 70 both parties. we frankly admit, bu
We hove q certain remedy. We have our tax
receivable coupon --cOupOns which the Su
prome Court Cf the Uniied states have hci'
must lie received for taxes; and that reme1!
we must still exercise. We hope sin"erel!
that you will not compel Us 70 exercise tina
remedy. We hope you will not compel Ne q
exercise /; after we leave RchmOnd, but W
must 90 IL If you viii not treat with us on
reasonable Iaris NO wish wen Of the Statr
The Interest of the State and the Interests q
the londholders are precisely tho same. e.
long az this war goes on II Is disastrous 20 bon
and the longer il goes on the worse the Stal'
becomes. and he worse The position OF tn
bCndhoider becomes
AEREARAGEs TO SCHOOLS.
Mr.. Fipcai: Now upon tLis question Of tn
tGX-reC eiyable coupons. they came into tn
Treasury to such an extent that il took all ih'
school money to meet them, aud there was no
money enough IN the Treasury 70 support th'
schools and We cOmmsnced then 10 remed,
that by stopping the flOw Of coupons into tn
Treasury. he creditors. therefore. had re
cciyed that money in the way Of interest, sn'
there Was paid back simply 10 the schools "a Z
which was taken from thea-Wnich wa a.
sured TO ~ EN- under the Constitution. Elm
ply make these remarks in answer 10 your lAl,
Brai.hwC.le's) argument
". Bfsithwaile: You did not undeIrinnd
Inc EIkGiItHt. ! III kuihfii 70 lhL Nidl 81
YOU Ind large amount Of revenue and yol
had no difficulties to contend with that yor
would not be justified In paying lack wAa
might or might not be regarded a. arrsar3ge'
bat hat it Is unnecessary for the school sys'oi'
10 g,,pfv more than their constitutional allow
snce for each year. Because you did not a.
DIV 10000 one year there is no reason VII,
sou should apply &c The next yoar. / thiuh
your appropriations ought 10 be sufficient 70
your school system, looking at tie amount 70
pay perecholar,
S.r. Mosscy: ! gather from your remar'.
MADE since have lecn here. though | vas n
present wien you began, that you object T.
the amount paid for afTcar9ges 10 the publ!
tchools. These arrearages are the aggrega.g
Of sums diverted from school purposes in TO-
render tie state unable 10 pay tho schools n,
amount that the Constitution made II Oblie.
tCly upon The state 10 give them. The amour
that the sC hOOls failed 20 receive on gccOunt O.
he schso-tax being paid for coupons. as We
a. the tax for other purposes, was simply CO
lied over a. so much due the schools under tho
constitutional provision with reference 10 %
schools.
M Brailhwnie understand thai. This
il not my argument Ii - this-;hat tn
amount Of the constitutional appropriation %.
Any current year IL and your rcures are such
~ say demOuftrato was amply sufficient To-
YOUR school purposes. Your children cosi
more than any pupils in any other schools in
the world.
Er Massey: We know they are costly ixG-
Iics. but We do net propose to get rid Of them.
Nj. Bralihwaite: II you go on with this thinz
for few more years. what are you going 10 do f.
Your arrearages are absolutely unnecessary.
You have applied 100000 ~ the literary fund.
Now I'm The year 1874 the balance 70 the credi.
of the literary fund.correct me II my figures
ore wrong-wE. $4,000. In 1885 it was $4,000
more. That il that difference Of the appro-
pIistion of 5000 OF arTearaPes.
Er. WickRam: ] do not understand those
nguTss.
Mr.. B1aithwaite: Turn 10 the account OF the
literary fund Of 1884. wherever it may he.
think il Is in the report on public instruction.
III Pollard You viii nnd II on page OF the
ropOr, Of the Auditor
Mr. Brnithwaite: This does not show the ba.-
ance in hand.
Nr. Pollard: That fund is dedicated 10 q sps-
ciac purpose ana arises from specific source
The itcislsiUTe cannot disturb il.
Mr. BraiihwEiie: The balance in the Treasu
~ 10 the c edit Of the literary fund in 1886 was
SigG 325S7. The balance 10 tho credit Of tha'
fund on tho ist Of Augu. {. 1885. was, IL am 10;
wrong something q little less thaa $4,000 d.
That is. you applied 10000, snd you spenr
about 500, ,OOC aud Increased your balance by tho
difference.
Hr. Barbour here read the constitutional
provision.
Mr.. Braiihwaiic Nlat IS me penalty II You
do not do so?
Nr. Barbour: Ii IS q violation OF oath on The
mart of members OF the General Assembly
Mir. Braithwaiie: ! do not think | am wrong
In these figures.
Mr.. Pollard: The Riddleberger bill provide.
what shall be zone with these bonds.
Dir. Braitbwaite: do not understand how
ont OF taxes now or in previous years you MAKE
a capital fund for that purpose.
Mr.. Figgat: II you want 70 20 into tbs ques-
tion Of how the literary fund shall be in Vir-
ginia we win answer that
Mr.. MickhRm: lt was thing done years ag1
Mr.. Braiihwaite: This Is desirable II you
have NJ cans but otherwise IL ia different.
The Chairman: suppose the Constitution
that We are sworn 10 support as Il required our
fsihsrs tefore us to do, provides for this-there
law that We may change from day to day, but
matter Of constitution.
Mir. Pollard: II il tho organic law Of the State.
Our Constitution is not Ss elastic as tie Eng
lifh Constitution
Mr.. Brsithwaite: 1t Is a part Of your Cons'i-
tuition that you shall pay your state deoi just
as well as you should pay these funds.
br. Tareour: We haven't that in our Constl-
tuition. -,
ray your debts.
line DO YOU want The bonds TO extend? ! mea0
botb as 10 point Of redemption or maturity.
Mr.. Braiinwa.te That Is question OF nego'
lie Chairman: mean how long the new
honds viii run with reference 70 maturity oF
redemption:
NE. TIcGATT DEFENDS THE SCHOOLS.
Mr.. Figgai: This, however. "a not question
Ter discussion nov. The point Is that you cam1
here willing TO treat on the present BASIS o.
aya;ion. You have referred TO the sum oil
500 600 for school purposes. ! desire 10 say
mon M haf question that the public-schcol system
vas inauguiRted under the new CONSTITUTION:
n xent into OPT ration. and by the diversion OF
he funds 20 the payment OF Interest on tue
nuhlic debt. and 30 forth. the schools wer"
ent doyn until they were OF little or no value.
\ on know that running the schools for three or
'onr months In the year Is OF little value IN the
aducation OF children. That Is practically no
at all. especially with respect 70 the
roIored populatiOn, who have no other means
n educst!on except the public school. Inc
.choois xere brought up agaiD, but the systeW
4 NOT vet perfect one by any means, ana nos
nearly the amount OF money Is spent upoE
he nubIic- school system as arc would spend
n We were In a condition TO go further.
Incindinc the cities. Whbre the city govern
nents nav such large amount OF money To-
yards keeping up the schools, running them
'tne and ten fnonthe In the year, the free
'chools. eyen Including these city schools, DO
moi reach longer term per annum then a.
,yerare IN A little over five months. Would
ron hsiieve n that the teachers receive only sn
yeraee salary OF about twenty-five dollars q
nouth9 The male teachers received last year
.n average OF s30s7 per month, aud the female
eackeIs but sss.s4 per month, Including eiV