New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-05-05
BETTING ON HORSE RACES.
THE IVES POOL BILL REcoMMITTED.

aRooKLYN MEN INDUCE THE JUDICIARY COMMIT
TEE TO AMEND IT-AGAINsT THE FIELD CODE.
rBr TELEGRAPH TO THE TRIBUNE
ALBANY, May 4--Mr. Ivess bill permitting the salc
Of pools excited considerable OF conflict
in the Chamber and in tho room OF the Senate
judiciary Committee to-day. The committee reported
the bin favoraby Senators Knapp and Kellogg dissent
ing this morning They had no sooner done 50 than
Senator Griswod of Brooky informed the Senate that
the Academy of Music in that city had been crowded
with its citizens night in attendance at meeting 10
protest against the passage OF the bill. committee
was now travelling 10 Albany to appear before the
J idiciary Committee and make speeches against
the bill This consisted Of the Rev. DR..
Talmage, A. W. Tenney, DR. Edward p. Ingerson J.
Warren Greene and ii. ID. Dumont Mr.. Griswold moved
that the bill should be reeommtted the Judiciary Com
mitee to give the Brooklyn committee hearing upon IL
There considerable opposition among the Senators
to granting this hearing Senator DAILY said the friends
of the bill could lose nothing by allowing the hearing
The Senate the point Of denying the petition or
the Brooklyn citizens when Senators Pitts and Vedder
suddenly interposed. Mr. Pitts pointed out the high
character of the men who preferred the request Mr.
yedder said:
am than m ssn nss % Ss
for this haste in dealing wS n 6, b Is
passed It WIN give moral shock to hs Community ana
projecting gambling be passed have heard Of
respectable body otmen being refused hearing and hope
shall not hear IL now.
The Senate which had seemed inclined not to grant
hearing to MIR. Talmage and his friends turned right
about face hearing this speech and voted unanimously
to grant the hearing
When the Judiciary Committee met Dr. Tamage ana
his Brooklyn associates appeared in opposition to the
Pool bill Mr.. Talmage first addressed the committee
He stated that he appeared as one OF the spokesmen o
the Brooklyn massmeetng The fathers aud mothers OF
BROOKLYN desired TO save their boys from the evils oil
gambling The moral sentiment of the State as well as
that OF Brooklyn opposed to the Ives bill 1t legal
ized gambling and there could be no more excuse for
that the legalzaon OF thevng Both were crimes
The moral people of the State held the balance OF po-
ica power and the Legislature would do well not TO Tor
get 1t true that he did not know nor did
any one else OF any law Of the State that was
fully executed. ard his idea of enforcing the laws was 10
bring the morals OF tne peopo up bns %on not tend
A. D. Dnmont said that the complaint had been made
that the laws against gambling horse were dor
mant. They could he awakened to hfo and. indeed
law could not be fully enforced that it had better be
abrogated.
senator comstOckwel MT Damont the Legislature o
regulates liquor selling why should Il mot PGS Ss
T. ga s on s ' viii
J. Warren Green-I do think the facts bear out the
theory gambling horse races is increasing IN the state
and Queen: County, They have got
ep Sa Rs s SSHn drive them Of Kings County
@ s 9ss Sn nSR
90 e you the
iu Or snm climbing has been by
people crime We have moi got 50 far in the case OF hquo
Senator Pie:ce-Mr Green what do they do in England
regulate bes on horse races
tacity permit it, but the evils OF ganD ping
on horse and book making are recognized =. -
Senator Comsock-This gambling evi VIII e1Is IN any
community despite laws At Saratoga the omceIs oI the ID"
gamble on the horseraces. -.
MT Talmage-How about theft Would you not regulate
that - ..,,., .r,,.oo,,
against theft and uphold the law But po0iseg
not np5eid Therefore the do e regulate
coans see and xsH
gamblers would not favor permitting IL
the cause of much misery when that District At
toruey Ridgway elected by majority OF $4,000 on TINS
ISSUE think that do not have puOnc senu
Brooklyn 10 enforce the laws a.
Mr. Green-M Rdgway while candidate did enforce tne
therefore reelected We are detoTmneI WA,
thoroughly aroused this question and VIII not let
sleep. .
Anthony Comstock argued that the bill was unconsti-
tutiona as it was lottery bill in effect and forbidden by
the Constitution.
The committee then went into executive session upon
the bill Senator Mcmillan moved that 1t should be
amended so as to provide that pools Should
be sold between July Is September 10 only
logg Knapp and Mcmillan voting In the ai1rmatlve.
Senator Knapp then moved that further action on lhe
DILL should bedeferred until tomorrow Ihs motion was
The COMMITTEES then took vote on the civil code OF
David Dudley Field and resolved TO report III adversely
Inv vote of to s. Senators who voted TO report the
bill favoraby Senators Parker Fierce CoggesnaH
and Nelson Those who voted TO report 1t unfaVoraDy
were Senators Comsock, Mcmillan, Knapp, kellogg ana
Smith.