Morning journal and courier., 1887-09-26
News by Telegraph FROM ALL QUARTERS. THE THISTLE TOO LONG. But She Will Be Allowed l. :. '.s .;'.. To Race. THE souTH's GREAT GROWTH A Labor Leader Robs His
 Union. 4 ROBBERY ON THE nORTHAM. Heavy Snow In The White
 Mountains.
l ROBBERY ON THE NORTHAM,
THE YACHTS WILL STARE,

l notwithstanding the Wrong State 1 ment of the Thistle,s Rsirnen i sIons.
 NEW YORK, Sept. 25.-At a meeting of the New York Yacht club held last night, it wal l decided to refer the eligibility of the Scotct yacht Thistle as a competitor in the Ameri. ca's cup race to MT. George L. Schuyler, the 1 oldest member of the club, as umpire. MT Schuyler was handed the measurements as 1 made by the committee and by MT. Bill, and I his report to day is as follows:
 NEW YORK, Sept. 25.-James D. Smith l Esx., Chairman of the Americas Cup Com mittee, New York Yacht club:
 My reply to the questions submitted to me by your committee and Mir. Bell is follows l The clause in the deed of gift, which re- quires, besides the custom house measure ment, statement of she dimensions of the vessels, is intended to convey q just idea of the capacity, at the same time without reference to any rule the racing l tonnage which may be in force at the time the challenge was given. The length of load water liEe Is essential element. It was furnished by both the Genesta and Galatea | and had it not been given by the Thistle the committee should have demanded it before the terms of the match. MT. Bell did, how ever, furnish the load water line of the This- tie notwithstanding his misapprehension of the necessity of doing so for the reasons as stated by himself that if the information was withheld it would be impossible to de- termine with approach accuracy the power of his boat, the reason which proves the necessity of load water line being factor in giving the dimensions of the vessel as we'll as the desire of MT. Bell to do everything i'll his power to make fair trial between the con testanrs for the cup.
 Your second question refers to a discreDancy between the load water line of the Thistle as furnished by the letter of March 16, 1SS7- about S5 feet-and the actual measurement made in New York S64-100 feet. The length of the load water line of vessel in commission is accurately official, but before launching, as was the case with the Thistle, there was no course left to the owner but to apply to his designer for the necessary infor- nation. This was done and the certificate of the designer was forwarded stating that it was impossible to give exactly the water line length. This, however, is her designers length and when she is at1oat and in racing trim have no reason to expect that it will be more than an inch or two out either way The importance of accuracy in giving the dimensions of a yacht challenging for the cup is so great that any decision reached in any one case cannot be used as precedent in any other which may arise. Any great error in any of the dimensions, whether
 
 agreement, small one should be governed by the circumstances attending it and always on the liberal side. Although the variation between the stated and actual loadwater line is so large as to be 8 great disadvantage to the defender of the cup, still, as MT. Bell could only rely upon the statement of his designer, he cannot in this case be held accountable for the remarkably inaccurate information received from him, and l, therefore, decide .i-- .l~ ----.~-.--:- not 11I-:-Ile in tba 1zroca agreed upon. Respectfully yours, 'n' -''
 GEORGE L. SCHUYLER.
 The above report is entirely satisfactory to all the members of the Americas cup com mittee and the New Dork Yacht club.
 MT. G. L.. Watson, the designer Of the Thistle, takes exception to the final para grah of Referee Schuyler's decision which re- fleets somewhat upon tae designer. Mr. Watson after disclaiming any intention of unfairness on ths part of MT. Schuyler says: 'tWhile, there, the Thistle has been sailed in Britain as she will be here at line lower than her designed draft and is consequently from her great overhang forward and aft foot 512 inches longer than intended or supposed she would be. most emphatically deny that shorter than the eighty-ive feet she was de signed for. She is a new type of boat, built under (to mel new tonnage law and after getting her into sailing trim the yacht racing association's official measurer found her to be 86.40 feet long or three- quarters of an inch shorter than the New York Yacht club measure found her to be- The New York Yacht club scale of time allowance. which is supposed to adjust all differences of length and sail area, was devis- ed for that purpose. If under this rule extra length be an advantage it would be as unfair to accuse MT. Burgess of unchivalrous conduct in designing boat ten and one-half inches longer than the vessel he expected to meet as to blame me for meeting the Volun- teer with boat which inadvertently is seven inohns lnnnar khan tha Vo1rntaar