St. Paul daily globe., 1887-03-01
The Congregational Club Indulges in a
Timely Discussion of Education
and the State.
Orthodox and Liberal Ministers Pitching
Into Each Other With Great
Enthusiasm.
The Eighth Warders Appear to Re-
1oice Over the Passage of the
Patrol-LimitS Bill.
End of the Capital Bond ProJect--a
New Kind of Railroad Snow
Plow.
EDUCATION AND THE STATE.
An Interesting iscHssiOu by Prom
inent Educators at the Congrega-
iiOnaL Climb VI Getting.

An Interesting iscAssiOu by Prom
inent Educators at the Congrega-
iiOnaE Climb Meeting.
The Congregational club of Minnesota
held its regular monthly meeting at the
Nicollet house yesterday. The gathering
was large and very pleasant to those inter-
ested. A large portion of the time was
given to general sociablity, which was
freely and fraternally ndulged in. Supper
was served at 7:30 in the dining hall. Both
parlors were filled by the members and the
meeting was a gratifying success.
Misses &. 5. Slater, G. E. Tuttle, Min
neapoliS, and DR.. L. T. Gear and and w.
Z. Davis, st. Paul, were proposed for mem-
beTShip.
The following gentlemen were elected to
membership: a. p. Wild, G. G. Cowe.
WI. Stevenson, st. Paul; w. II. Hinkle. w.
y. Newton, c. z. Lowell. Rev. w. NJ.
Jones and c. A. Bartlett, Minneapolis.
The principal feature of the meeting was
a discussion on Education and the State, :"
on which subject Prof. Bradley, the super
intendent of schools i'll Minneapolis and
Prof Taylor, the superintendent of st.
Paul'S schools, read interesting papers.
Prof. Bradley opened the discussion with
an able and comprehensive paper, consider
and maintain an educational system by gen
eral taxation: the gentleman regarded the
schools as much a public benefaction as
the courts, and that intelligence, no
less than justice, is a necessary
factor of our civilization and must be OBJ
tanned and maintained at whatever cost.
\ public school system is the only possible
method of its attainment because volun-
tary payment for education would be no
more effective than would the payment for
courts by none but the parties using them.
The state is what the people are, not what
they possess, and general and widely diff
fused educational advantages insureS high
intelligence in the people. AS to what the
state should teach, the gentleman says that
if a little education is good for COM
munity, who will deny that more education
is better? Pecuniarily the higher education
pays. Higher education pays its greatest
dividend, however, in that the trained
mind moulds public opinion. One boy,
trained to broad-minded wisdom and stable
character, may be worth to the community
in which he lives more than hundreds of
illiterate men. Then followed very able
and logical defense of the high school sys-
TEN, which is a part of a systematic
whole, making it possible for the poor as
well as the rich to become men and women
with well-trained minds. The paper closed
with an earnest argument, replete with
practical common sense, III favor OF eStab-
fishing manual training schools i'll connec-
ton with the public schools. Eight out of
ten children will have to earn their bread
by hard labor, and Supt. Bradley wisely
insists that hand and head shall be alike
prepared for the struggle. He has shown
his confidence in the system by establish
ing it i'll the schools Of Minneapolis.
Prof. TaylOr'S paper was strong plea
OH the necessity of teachers training and
normal schools. He cited the great benefit
derived from such Institutions and said it
was paramount duty of the state to de-
mand of its teachers reasonable knowledge
OF how to teach and what to teach as well
as knowledge of the subjects to be taught
1t was equally the duty of the state
TO provide the means by which
teachers may secure the requisites
to good work. Those normal schoolt
where theory and practice is combined are
best and only such should be established.
1t is wrong to compel the pupil to suffer
from teachers ignorance of methods.
The paper was very interesting and re-
ceived close attention.
Prof. Judson, OF the State university,
rather ignored the subject under discussion,
but made felicitous speech fin which he
warmly welcomed so many evidences of
christian brotherhood between the different
Sects. He believed in cooperation for the
general welfare and so believed in educa-
ton being provided by the state.
Prof. Bemis, formerly a teacher here,
quoted Danton. III you suffer the poor to
grow up in ignorance. they will become
wild beasts and rend yOu.'
And this illustrates a strong phase of the
duty of the state in the matter of educa-
ton. He argued strongly in favor of COM
pulsory education, as securing the presence
in school of the children of the most ignor-
ant and dangerous class of society. Touch
ing on industrial education he said there
are now 1000 girls in the Philadelphia
schools that are learning tosew. He adyo-
Gated the teaching of economics in the
schools.
Judge Fish strongly approved Prof.
Bratiley'S idea of manual training in the
public school, saying that manual and
mental deXterity supplement each other,
making strong combination. The ques-
ton Of how boys shall learn trades is prac-
tlcal and important one, and the schools Can
solve it.
Prof. McLain spoke in favor of the state
atfording higher education. He cited the
example of Germany in providing for the
higher education on such a liberal scale.
The state cannot afford to cease sustain
ing higher education, on the contrary il
should find in it the highest duty.
DR.. Shaw spoke in laudable terms of the
method Of introducing manual training in
the high school. He thinks it will res ult
in keeping a great many boys in school,
until the high school course is finished.
Rev. Morley closed the meeting with
prayer.
HE Worked as AN Official.