St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1887-12-02
WARD DENIES
Spurious Interviews in a Would-Be Sem
sational Evening Paper. i
DENIES HIS ALLEGATIONS.
He Regards Kelly as Responsible for
the Indictment Against him, How
ever, and Retaliates.

The Evening Journal last night had a
sensational interview with j. E. Ward,
the ex-adjutant, or, rather, mayors
clerk, in which he is represented as
going cunning for Tommy Kelly's
scalp. The most pertinent passages in
the alleged interview are as follows:
Tommy is the fellow that got me in
dicted before the grand jury, although
he didn't appear as a witness. However,
he hustled around and worked up the
case against me. | am satisfied of that.
Why he did | am unable to say, but I'm
of the opinion that he did it to save his
own carcass. But say, Tommy was a
very surprised man when the grand jury
led him by the ear down before the court
for arraignment. l don't know who
worked up the case against him. l did
not. Perhaps some of TOmmy's wit
neSSeS against me gave the grand jury
very big tip. They found that Tommy
knew very little about my alleged thiev-
ing, but great deal more about the
leakage in the city's funds than he
cared to testify to. Tommy is very
scared man now. He hasn't got over
trembling since they laid their clutches
on his oily locks. Tommy may get
scared enough to tell good deal now.
L don care how much ne tells, he can't
injure me. | could have fattened my
pockets, too, had L been dishonest. /
could have gotten away with $1,000
easily, and the authorities could have
whistled for it. l didn't do it; perhaps
j was foolish for not doing so. I'm get
ting all the glory OF being a criminal
and none of the Doodle.
doc AmeS knew nothing about this
thievery. He is an honest man. He
was stumping the state when this whole
business was going on. He left Subor-
dinates in charge here in whom he
placed every confidence. 1t is not for
me to say that they violated that conf
know that Doc AmeS was not cOgniZant
of any wrongdoing. Who lined their.
pockets? Let the authorities tell the
public; do not know. 1t is pretty evil
dent that some license money collected
did not go to its proper channel. l did
not get it; l haven't got anything now.
Who do you suppose from present APP
pearanceS would be picked out as the
guilty one! Who is fat and sleek and
well fixed? Not John E. Ward, sure. 3
Tommy Kelly has done some things
that won't bear rigid inspection. A year
ago last summer Tommy was the real
proprietor of a saloon run directly Op-
pOsite the municipal court. Tommy
was city license inspector that summer.
Tommy never paid cent of license to
the city for the privilege of running that
saloon. That was not just right on the
face of it. was it? But he did even worse
than that. He closed out the saloon in
the fall. The proprietor afterwards
told me that Tommy did not pay bal
ance of $50 due on the rent of the build
ing after he closed out. The proprietor
says he repeatedly dunned Tommy, and
Tommy's final reply to him was to go
and whistle for his rent"
Mr.. Ward last evening visited the
GLOBE office and said: with the eX-
ceptiOn of the charge that l consider
Tommy Kelly as the person respOn-
Sible for the indictment brought against
me. the foregoing interview is abSO-
lutely false. Hold OH, FL make one
other exception, and that is the state
ment that l consider Mayor AmeS en-
tirely innocent of any cognizance of
wrong doing. The fact that he must
have been ignorant of any misappro-
priation of public funds is apparent to
any one familiar with the campaign of
year ago, if any such misappropria-
the slightest knowledge, at least.
"Understand me. that l do not, and
have not charged 'thievery,' as quoted.
against anybody. cannot understand
why the Journal should claim an inter-
view when have never seen one of its
reporters"