The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1887-06-29
The Irish Crimes Act 0nes More Under Dis-
eussion BY the Commons.
The Governments Intention to Proceed With
the Bill Through ths Report S.ags.
= Proposition to Limit the Duration Of the
Coercion Act Rejected.
Turkey Asks for a Postpone m ment-Reeep-
j tfOn of Princes-Oytd's Tomb Discov-
ered-Other Foreign News.
IN THE BRIrIsH HOUSE OF COMMONS
ouer1es PropOunded the Government
administration Considered.

0ueries PropOunded the Government
Leadsrs-COercIOn Considered.
LONDON, June 27.-In the Commons to-
night Sir James Ferguson, Under Foreign
Secretary, in replying to Mr.. Campbell,
said the order in which the Queen received
the ambassadors ENJOYS on the occasion
OF Ter jubilee was devoid of special signif-
canoe. The papal envoy was received
somewhat earlier than some Of the others.
The audiences were announced in the court
circular, and the list in which occurred
the papal mission was confined to those
who came TO offer congratulations.
W. II. Smith, First Lord of the Treasury,
in replying to Johnston, said that no pro-
posal to establish diplomatic relations be-
tween England and the Vatican had ever
been contemplated, nor had any such pro-
l posal been made to or by the Government.
Mr.. Smith announced that the Govern
ment intended TO proceed with the crimes
bill until it passed the report stage.
Robertson (Liberal) moved that a new
! clause De added to the bill, providing that
! the act could be repealed by order in the
council. This, be said, would prevent the
House of Lords from keeping the act on
the statute book IN defiance, possibly, of
the wishes of the Commons.
Balfour, Chief Secretary of Ireland. op-
posed the new clauses, iuTging that the con-
trol of the Commons was carefully pre-
served in the bill, and any ministry could
prevent its operation.
The proposed clause was rejected.
Mr.. Morley moved that the duration of
the act be limited to three years. 1t was
the first time he said, that any government
had the shameful courage to propose per,
petual coercion. In any exceptional
mutilation of civil rights. particularly in
so crave and serious q mutilation as the
present bill contemplated, the Government
ought to De compelled from time to time,
at tolerably short intervals, to examine
whether circumstances still justified the
existence of such exceptional legislation.
This was the first government that
had cast to the winds the old
fashioned regard for the liberty of
the subject and the doctrine that excep-
tional legislation should not last one day
longer than circumstances demanded. The
+ bill had turned into oftenses acts not now
considered offenses. He quoted the returns
Of agrarian crime, and urged that the fig
ures showed there was the smallest posi-
BILE necessity for the bill. He protested
against permaDence which implied the
experience OF evils against which the bill
was directed.
Sir r. L. Webster, Attorney General, op-
posed Mor!sy's motion. He said, although
it was true that previous bills were Of re-
stricted duration, no previous measure
the
same power or parliamentary revision as
we're embodied in the present bill. There
had been working in Ireland forces closely
connected with murder of the worst char
acter. There forces had been supported,
n OF by the internal resources Of Ireland,
= out by large contributions of money from
another couRtTy. The Government must
retain the power Of judging when these
forces were at work.
Mr. Gladstone urged that the special
character of the bill was reason for limit
ing IT'S duration. Its enactment as a perma-
neDt measure would sggraYate the existing
evils, intensity that alienation and es-
arrangement from law wherein lay the
fundamental evil of Ireland's social condi-
tion. list OF prscedents, unusually long
and authoritative, justified opposition to
bills OF a generel character which placed
tne legislative power in the hands of the
executive, and the inyariable rule had been
to limit the duration OF such laws The
present bill created new crimes and the
Government was handing over peoples
rights TO be dealt with silently, secretly,
and at the discretion of the Lord Lieuten-
ant OF Ireland.
>Balfour said precedents showed that tenn.
porary bills were fsllacies, and experience
demanded the adoption of permanent
measures.
Sir Wilfried Lawson, Radical, in sup.
porting the amendment, said it was an
honor to America to send money to those
fighting tor the freedom OF Ireland.
Redmond also spoke in support of the
amendment.
The amendment was reiected-180to TO 1l9.
Mr.. Chance, Nationalist, moved that a
new clause be added, providing that the
proceedings in certain criminal trials be
reported by shorthand writers.
Mr.. Holmes, Acknowledgement for Ire
land, opposed the motion, which was re-
jected-196 to 1875.