The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1887-12-13

Minister ThurstOn asked to have hi
vote changed, which was done, upon
which the vote was declared, II aye,
and - noes.
Rep. Brown moved that the vote
Just taken be reeonsidered.
Minister ThuTston said that the rca-
son he had asked 10 have his vote
changed was to give him the privilege
Of moving a reconsideration. He was
ashamed Of the action Of the House.
This question had been dilly-dallied
with for years. The rules and regula-
tons OF two years ago had proved
| worthless. Within three weeks Of the
publication of those rules. 500 passports
were sold in this city. II a Shipload 81
! Cinnamon came here tomorrow, there
Is no law 10 prevent their landing.
The only way we could prevent
| their landing would be To stand on the
/ shore and shoot them. This law i
4 only intended to 30 into effect on the
1 first of March, and twas abSUDi To say
/ that there might be a crisis in the
labor market between that time and
/ the next session Of the House.
Noble Smith said that the vote in
volved a defeat of the Ministers as this
I was a government measure. If this
| vote is adopted. the Ministers cannot
I hold their seats.
The House took the usual noon re-
cess.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Noble smith concluded his remarks
on the reconsideration nf vote on the
( Chinese immigration bin.
Noble Castle referred to certain
| threats that had been made about
/ Ministers resiguing in ease the bill was
not accepted.
Noble smith said that the Hon.
4 Mobiles remarks on his, the speakers,
I threatening the resignation of the Min
istry. We're rather far fetched.
Noble Castle continued and said that
ii was understood that Ministers took
office 70 stay. not 70 resign. Ii would
be in order for them TO resign on vote
of want of confidence or on becoming
conscious. from other sources, of their
NOT possessing the confidence of the
country. The honorable Noble cited
the resignation Of the Gladstone minis
tzy in England. ON account OF being
defeated on the comparatively inSig-
niticant question of a duty on beer
The reference OF the bin To n commit
tee i not 4 vote of want of confidence.
This bill had been referred first TO the
Committee on Foreign Relations, and
again 3 portion Of the bill was referred
10 another committee. Many other
bills introduced by Ministers had been
amended by committees, but there was
nothing said about the Ministers being
defeated. Now, il i proposed simply
10 refer this bill.
Rep. Kinney said-N0bIe Castle has said a
good deal about chjld's play on :he part of
some of those who support tie Chinese bill.
Nov while we are on th= subject Of child's
play, ! wish TO say something OF Noble Gas
Hes remarks which consider worse thau
child's play. Ii re DO nothing about Chm, -
Immigration he SAYS the public IS protected
between now and NaV against a heavy IGtiGz
OF Chinese. because The Ministers have
authority to prom1!-ate restrictive regular
tons between sessions, citing as his author
ity a Supreme Cont decision. Now surely If
there Is ANYTHING he ought 10 be certain OF be
fore he asserts H. Il l. tlS point 50 vital 70 Us.
Is il then the fret that there will be any
check upon the CAii.r~e between n0E AID
Nav: l say il Is not. Tie decision he relies
on is nov before me and does Hgf support
him. and Ii seems 10 me that II Is serious
child's play OF ms part 70 make OF hand
assertions upon vital points 20 the public
without making sure whereof he speaks.
His carslessnesS II relaxing restrictions in
favor Of Chinese and against the public Is IN
marked contrast TO his ylgllant criticism OF
points tightening restrictions in favor OF the
public and against Chinese. Noble Castle
SAYS great deal about threats. He SAYS
Noble Smith meant 10 threaten the House
when L said tuSt ii the Chinese bill Is laid
over until next term, the Ministry must re-
sign. I say Noble Smith had 3 right TO say
IT. 1t was his duty 10 SAY 1t. I have always
understood that il was first principles II any
argument 10 consider the result of any pro
posed action. but Il seems that a plain state
ueut OF what must inevitably follow the
postp1nement Of that hill has TO be char
setsTiZsd Is thEsstenlng ana Is animal
vertsd upon a. highly improper. Now i
r5iterste hat Noble Smith said IL that
respect and say II would be 1nmanly IN the
Ministry &c attempt 10 stay IN after this bill
has been laid over TIL next May. This Min
iStry hss brought forward as Ministerial
measure this bill. 1t has been before the Z
public for some weeks. Il has passed two re ID
iugs with heavy msiorities, and now 70 have 4
Il killed on the eve u 2 third reading under
the plea Of referring Il 10 i committee after
Il has been II the hands of two committees, &
Is to- transparent TO need interpreting. I
have not sid that cbs Ministry must resign 4
for the purpose Of whipping II votes for 4
reconsideration, for unless Fery serious reaS- I
;
not vote for reconsideration.
II Is better that the Ministry should resign. (
Ii gave me momentsry pang after the re-
suit Of the vote killing the bill vas known. 4
but now l am perfectly resigned. l want 4
them 10 20, for feel that the real spirit and 4
0eSlre Of tie vested interests OF the Kingdom /
came 70 the surfscs II tbs vote to stave the
bin OF. And. If this Is 50. they have lost
confidence IN this Ministry and without the
support Of this class as the House is sofr con
stltutsd. the Ministry cannot carry cut eTsc-
lively genuine restrictive act even If 1t vas
now passed. The vote to-day has formed
two parties and the work OF this revolution 4
AIRY Ministry Is over. Ii came IN clo-iOasly /
and though In some respects al enfeeblsd ad- 4
ninistratiOn, Il mas done great service. and 4
now an opportunity Is granted 10 die an hon
orable death. Two parties are forming. and 4
aS ! do not believe the Ministry can ef-
fectivsiy carry out a restriction bill as the
House Is nov constituted owing 70 the arf5-
tlde taken BY the m0neyed men. sgv rhe
government Is bouGd to Be Turned over 10 a
Ministry either C0vertly or openly IN favor OF
Chinese ] hsd hoped that the business men
Of the Kingdom would deem II wiser to work
through 3 Iharstoa Ministry than more
ssrFIle ore. even though that Ministry was
nr-eSef- determined N Slarf ont Chimes ~