Los Angeles daily herald., 1887-01-15
EASTERN.
The Interstate Commerce
Men Win.
THE SENATE ADOPTS THE BILL.
The Senatorial Matter Growing
Serious in Indiana-The Par
ties are Lied.
+ Special to the Herald by the Associated Press.
SENATE.

ton of the conference report on the In
ter.State Commerce Bill. Agreed to by
81 to IL.
Before taking up the subject Ingalls,
offered resolution calling upon the Sec.
retary of the Interior for information as
to the republication OF private land claims
in New Mexico, Oregon and Arizona.
Adopted.
Sabin introduced a bill to amend the
Act Of March Sd, 1875, granting to the
railroad the right Of way through public
lands of the United States. Referred.
Sewell, of the conference committee,
introduced bill making an annual ap-
preparation to provide arms and equip
ments for the militia. He made report
reducing the appropriation from $780,.
600 to $4O0, 900, which was agreed to.
The Senate then resumed the consid.
Grafton of the Interstate Commerce
bill, and was addressed by Hoar. At
the conclusion of Hoar's speech in the
Senate, in opposition to the Interstate
Commerce bill, Sherman took the floor
and spoke for over an hour in opposi-
ton to the bill. Edmunds then spoke
in its favor.
Sherman said there was now concur
rent sentiment among all classes OF peo-
pie strongly represented in both Houses
of Congress, that there should be some
federal legislation in regard to inter-
state commerce. There was such a
pressure of public opinion behind it that
no conference committee could possibly
prevent it's passage. He should vote 10
recommend the bill to the same conferees
with view to have them look over the
disputed points and see whether or not
they can frame such provisions as will
enable Senators and Representatives to
vote for the bill freely without any
doubt as to the effect Of any of its pro.
visions.
Edmunds argued in favor of the con.
ference report. He claimed that as to
the short and long haul section, the
conference committee had merely
changed the phrase of the bill as passed
by the Senate but had not changed its
substantial tenor or effect.
Aldrich argued against the fourth Sec
ton of the bill. He expressed his pro.
| found conviction that if the fourth Sec
ton were enacted into law it would
prove disastrous to the great interests OF
| the country. He believed it to be
reactionary in its character and revolu.
tionary of all sound principles, and its
rigid enforcement would demoralize and
cripple both internal and external com.
merce.
Morrill, said he had reached tie con.
clusion that it was his duty to vote to
recommit the bill. He was satisfied
that the effect of tbs fourth section
would be to increase the rates of freight
for long hauls and, possibly, those for
short hauls also.
Cullom explained what the effect of
the provision wouln be.
| Sewell inquired whether that wo uld
constitute an abrogation of the treaty Of
Washington.
Cullum did not so understand it. His
impression was that the treaty of Wash.
ington had besn abrogated for some
time. II it were not so, this was mere
police regulation. The United States
had right to require compliance with
it, and if foreign company did not
comply with it penalty would attach.
Edmunds stated that the 30th
article of the treaty of'W Washing ton (which
seemed to be the principal one in this
connection) had been terminated on the
first of July, 1885, and was no longer in
force. There were no grounds whatever
for the pretense that, among all other
evils that would happen, any difficulty
would arise in regard to contravening
the existing treaty regulations with
Great Britain.
Ingalls, said he had already given suf-
ficient reasons why he would support
the bill. He would now yield to mo-
| tion to recommit it.
Spooner said that if he felt in regard
to the bill as the Senator from Kansas
had expressed himself, he could not be
brought in difference to any clamor or to
any consideration to support it.
Morgan in favoring the recommittal of
the bill said, if he had the money Of Jay
Gould, his talents, his enterprise, his
ambition to absorb railroads and to put
them under a single ownership, he would
not want better law passed than this
law in relation to pooling.
Cullom rose to close the debate. He
had been listening all day to assaults on
the bill, until he had almost become
convinced that he was most vicious
toward the railroads and that the bill
was intended to destroy the commerce of
the country and to break down railroads,
and vet most of the assaults upon it
were in relation to the provisions which
were in the bill as it passed the Senate.
The presiding officer having stated the
question to be on agreeing to the confer
ence report, Mr.. Frye moved to recon.
nit the report with instructions to the
Senate conferees to insist on striking
out section and substituting section 4
of the Senate bill; also on striking out
section and substituting therefor see
I'tion 10 of the Senate bill, which is the
clause authorizing the commissioners to
investigate the subject of pooling, and
report at some future day.
Mr.. Evarts said he would vote to re-.
commit, believing that that action would
bring Congress and the country nearer
to good bill than ever before.
Mr.. Cullom said he should regard the
vote on the motion to recommit as a
test vote on the question. The vote was
taken on the motion to recommit and
the motion was rejected: Yeas %, nays
SO. A vote was then taken on the bill
and the conference report was agreed to:
Yeas 43, nays Is. Those who voted nay
were: Messrs. Aldrich, Blair, Brown,
Cameron, Chase, Cheney, Evarts, Hamp.
ton, Hoar, Mitchell. Of Pennsylvania,
Morrill,, Malone. Payne, Platt, Will
liams--l5.
The Senate then at ll:40 adjourned
till Monday.