New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-05-24
THE POOL BILL IN THE BALANCE.
FINAL ARGUMENT BEFORE THE GOVERNOR.
ND r,,x.ov.s pRIYrR-REpLY OF AssEMBLYMAN
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ivrs-sUIERoUs PETITIONS.
,r,ou THE REGULAR CORRESPONDENT OF THE TRr3rSEJ
AthAyY. May 23.-Governor Hill gave hearing
this afternoon on Assemblyman lvess Dill permi'uns
the sale of pools on horse races There were many
ministers present in opposition to the oii' ano nany
sporting men to speak in favor OF IL among tn'oV
nresent in opposition to the bill were the Rev. l.
De Witt Talmage OF Brooklyn; the Rev. DIR. Payson,
DR. Harrison Tucker, J. NJ. Wood, Anthony Com,
stock of Brooklyn, aud the Rev. H. s. Macarthur %
New-York. Among the turtmen present favoring TUG
bill were H. w. T. Mali. Leonard w. Jerome, ). IT,
K. Lawrence. General D. Butterfeld, r. C. Living
stop. A. C. washington, C. H. Raymond, Mr.. Bowman
and George w. Archer, OF Rochester, John d. BOW
era F. r. Riyes Lawrence Kip, Il. A. Hutchinson, u
Utica and c. J. Hsmlin, OF Buffalo.
Dr. Talmaee made the opening speech against the
bill Among the things he said were these
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put bsphemy IN ms country unit, We MAKE pay O
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cO%merc for our civilization plead for te lseSrns and
professional classes we plead ior o Tor the rshteous
which would not have soT9S4t ent aea LOT men
For ali these considerations Governor near our nP'
nate prayer ~,
Geor,e Lansing TAYLOR of Brooklyn, and members oil
hi, congregation against the bill lie also read
telegram from Warsaw, New-York, saying tha' q
unon prayer-meeting of five churches had been hcio
in that village yesterday in opposition to the Dill
Tho Rev Dr. Macarthur, Of Now-York, read letters
from tho Rev DR. Howard Crosby, Henry George, the
Rev Theodore Cuyer the Rev. DIR. Edward l1sersoii
and the Rev. Dr. Edward Braisbn, OF Brooklyn IL.
then argued that the bill would harm the citizens vi
the State II might improve the breed OF horses ou'
IL would harm the breed oil men, 1t was an ahroht W
the civilization of the land 1t injurious TO ths
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had become law Thousands Of young men wouia
be idle on Saturday afternoon hereafter They sholu
not DO thrust into temptation, Us THIS Dill woui 10
II yasa satanic measure and the Governor shouiu
veto IL .,
The Rev. DR.. McCaun, of Syracuse real a telegram
from the Ministerial Society of Syracuse protesting
| against the bill. The Rev. DR.. Harris. OF freepoft,
resented a resolution uassea by convention OF Eoo
Congregational churches against the bill Inc heV;
! Mr. Dobson presented petition OF ionr churehes VI
! Gloversville against the bill.
Asssmblyman Ives defended hs bill. no was PROUD
that il bore his name lie desired no better argument
for the hill than that given by the koy Dr. IAhago
of BROOKLYN, TO the effect that the morals OF inc
neople should be raised. Betting for ten years had
heen forbid len and yet Brooklyn now had three oi
bo restes race tracks In tho country How did thi'
happeu despite the betting law The reason that IN,
race tracks ouTished because the people dehreu
10 bet on horse The people OF the counties IN
which the tracks were would not oniorce the a"
Betting on tho jerome Park course bad indeed boeh
stopped, but hundred pool rooms had NJ once Oeel
opeued in New-York City. Ii was IN thosr poor room
| that the clerks we're leeoed OF their modey' n'
desired to stamp ont gambling just as much ms the
mInisters but he thought tho best way 10 lessen II
Georae Bowman, of Rochester. argued that betting
was NOT n sin and that the clergvmen were wrong IL
! thinking that God would punish IT, The betting pro
vided Tor in the bill merely tho registration OF
bet Ii restricted pooselllng to the race TRACKS ah
| prevented II outside thoir grounds. =,
General Daniel Butterheld, OF Utica, spoke ior th'
! hill He Is one OF the executive committee OF thu
! Coney Island Jockey Club. The ministers wer'
earnest and sincere In their opposition but they hs'
not studied the subject sufficiently There was nothing
wrong An betting Many OF the racing members wef,
also Supporters churches. He himself was courci
member and lie wcu say that he heartily supPorte'
thus bill. 1t would lessen gambling. ith thls Ias
! the racing associations would have control Of IN
betting People would bet: They would OTTO th
church Of the Rev DIR. Iaimage ana pet on the od'
| and even numbers of the hymns DR.. 1almage nigh
| give out At tho Coney Island race track they ha'
taken in over S1,000,0CO from selling privileges u
the booksellers and had turned over every ceut oil III
nancy thew had received TO tho owners OF horses.
Anthony Comstock presented a briei and made o.
areument that the bill vas unconstitutional and ina
it provided virtually for n lottery