New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-05-06

REPLY TO LORD RosEBEhi NOR
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CAMS PRINcELf CIR
,u~c,ptr TO THE TRIBUNE
,on,,,foN,, 1887 TortA An'sr'' Ao~..ont are proba-
,.noy May 5.-The ooVeinmeA 80 made a
A., hv this time aware thaU 'nus Ts,.ns,ss charges
oV Dy acal,ng with 1.-The Times -.
mistake ~ parns,lites Whether they are 'e'i.
sgains' p. .np or technically wrong in holding ~
nicaiy otter Of privilege, they are resaiuee
ss hopelessly wrong IN ~ consid.
wrong il the ques.ion ,.o,,ng .lbe
Mions oro,v as one of fair dealing dns s
srea me-, ,,-S,,o protesting perfect readiness anu
sS.noo un"ss' in its ability to prove lts cnare.s
Son S'" ony tribunal whatever, supports 1he 'rl
.o.' declining a Parliamentary tribunal, puV
W 1,ovo,nment,s own leading journal conoe,u..
sn s"o ,,ncnor,nelv and ridicules as ni'iAeSin'
W.. W.. nrorosa, to lend the Attorney-ueneiai "
VIZ ,,amallites as prosecutor. That course say
'..,,,o Standard is neither practical nor !u.o,
.-,.,o. MT nractical because 1t is known une
.,s rofuse and not justlfable because ho pun
a. onerce has been committed Inc suoseduNN
..o. to let the Irish choose their own counoei
"a sol;ctors did not much mend matters NV
,r,s,, cop,d do that without the help OF peiiii''
,ion Of tho Government. IA. .,o
What has damaged the Parneliites "Nh Vn0
English public has been their reiusal W IT,
,roceedings for libel against Inc linies nv
r,no,,sb said that Mr.. Parnell and his coneasueS
sat down under charges intoleraoie 10 nono-
,oon They never pleaded they had not money
nnouoh to nav for the luxury of law, SO 1he oo''
or,ment's offer to bear the expenses OF lhe .iiai
IL no boon. As things stand there ue"oio
M ,overnn,ent offer what the Irish DO noV
want, the Irish demand what the Government
,rofoss to bo unable to concede. To BRING Uhe
winter NJ "Ihe Times" to the bar OF the House
would not advance anybody's interests IL hS
charges were an offence against privilege prov
inc them true would not make them less oheh-
sive. -,
Mr. (;ladstones amendment offers way out oi
The dilemma. He proposes TO appoint a seie0'
committee OF investigation. That whao 'ne
Irish have Irofessed themselves ready TO meet
Nothing made better impression than MI
McCarthy's declaration that he would SUBMIT
himself to the Judgment OF committee eAciu,
.ively comuosed of his opponents. All he asked
was n tribunal of English gentlemen. 1he UoV-
s,nment and "The Times have no possible an
swer N such an offer as that but to accept it or
confess themselves in the wrong. If MI McCar-
thy's colleagues had all spoken in the same spirit
English opinion would have been with them
to be too narrow. What the public now wants
is n decision ON the whole case. II is not enough
10 inquire whether "1he Tmes's' extracts from
yarnellite papers do or do not convict Mr.. Dillon
of falsehood. If the Irish wish to clear them
selves of all completely with crime they can do
H. by submitting to the tribunal they demand
their whole defence against the whole case That
Is what the public here looks for What they
have done thus far is to dspel presumption OF
guilt based on acquicscence In public accusations
rot publicly refuted. They refuse TO go before
the English courts for reasons satisfactory TO
themselves but unsatisfactory to tho English ;
but they pTofess to be eager for hearing De-
fore committee. Ii they want verdict from
tho English people they can only get 1T by in
ssting on the whole dispute being there tried out.
Sir Charles Lewis is the best friend the Irish
ever had He has put his own party In mole
and the Irish In better position than they have
ever before had on this matter. Feeling in Tory
circles is one of unqualified disgust with Sir
Charles Lewis and puzzled vexation with the
Government Lord Randolph Churchlls at
tempt to come tc their rescue was gallant but
unsuccessful Side issues respecting the rela-
tions between Parliament and the press disturb
nobody, nor is the English press in the least dsn-
ger Of being muzzled.
Mr. ChaTnberlain's goodly speech to Scotland
is one more mark of the ever widening gulf be-
tween the GladstOnians and the Unionists. Mr..
Chamberlain has been much abused, but he re-
torts upon Lord Rosebery, who abused him
nor in the speech which Mr.. Chamberlain an
swers even mentioned him. Clearly, however,
the Unionists consider Lord Rosebey's Glasgow
speech authoritative. It's eleventh hour warn
ing or summons to repentance elicits an an
swer from Lord Harrington as well as from Mr..
chamberlain. The answers are very different
in tone, personally, but alike in substance. Mr..
uhamberlains would have been more effective
minus the personalities. He relates with abso-
lutte clearness the points of difference between
MIR. Gladstone and himself, and once more in
Sites MIR. Gladstone TO say whether he considers
the difference vital. Lord Harrington very
grayely. very firmly, and with unwontcd anima-
uon, rising at the end TO eloquence, reviews the
relations between the two wings of the Liberal
party. Ho declares that he does not regard this
as Tory but as Unionist Government, and
will support it such regardless OF all party
claims and ties. The Crimes act, says the Union
ist leader, is not aimed at the National League
In its political capacity, but as an association
which seeks to usurp the government Of Ireland
Rnd promulgate its own code Of laws. He adds
There is not. in my opinion, room in this En-
pire for two Governments and two peoples"
American opinion and action on the Irish ques
ton form the text for much discussion. tn,
week past has brought many kilograms announc
Ing shipments Of dynamite or preparations on
large scale in America for dynamite operations
during tho Jubilee celebration. If these storle.
can be denied with authority, the effect here
would be good. But the English regard the lat
est declaration, cabled to-day, meaning dyna.
mite though that word is not used.
Mr.. Goschen last night dealt at Leeds, where
another dinner was given in his honor. with tn,
subject Of American opinion on Irish questions
Like most Unionists he sets it down largely tc
Tho Irish vote. The rest, he thinks Is manufact-
nred on this side Of the water. but IL genuine
Ar IL.