New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-01-15

The most deetereous effect Of tie section would be- to ex
cude from the markets Of the world the farm products OF
Conger asked him whether he believed It proper to
charge the wheat grower of Michigan greater sum for
the wheat growers of Minnesota or Dakota.
Mr.. Aldrich replied that he could conceive OF crcum-
sary He did believe, however that wheat wa. ever
carried at less rates from Minnesota and Dakota to the
Mr. Morrill, said he had reached conclusion that 1t
his duty to vote to recommt the bill. He was satisfied
those Tor for short hsas also w ais judgment was tina.
not be single new railroad built in this country until
s tSs n and Pae s$ pssn xo Ia
be such that the Government might well give Np the
idea OF collecting the Indebtedness OF those companies 10
Mr.. Wilson, referring to his argument before House
Committee said that he had changed views somewhat
since then lie had made definite study OF the question
since lie had come TO the Senate and he had found in
quitie in the practices OF TIE railroad companies suf
cent to induce hD for the confe renee report
Mr. Morr called attention to the provision OF the bill
Mr. Cullom explained what the effect OF the provision
would be.
Mr. sewe inquired whether that would constitute an
abrogation OF the Treaty OF Washington.
Mr. Edmnnds stated tnat the thrtietn article OF the
Treaty OF Washington (Which seemed to bc the principal
one In this connectio had been terminated Oh July 1.
Mr. ingalls, congratulated the Senate ironically on the
unanmiy Of opinion which had been exhibited In the In
depreciation OF the fourth section The Senator from Yer
mont (NIr. Edmunds had told the Senate that he was
unable to discover any difference between that section as
it passed the Senate and it came nits second birth
from tho Conference Committee; but for himself. his
Judgment that these two forms were as wide apart as
i was possible for two propositions to be- The DEBATE
bill turned the idea that the provision
BY The Conference Committee did not mean that It
meant the application of the short and long haul prnc
and to every pound of freight carried 1t meant local
for every pound of freight carried over The roads
haus under which distances had been equalized that
practically the man who lived in Colorado or
man who lived the seabOard 1t proposed now TO
abolish all that and to declare that hereafter every pound
freight that moved these railroads should pay It's
equal prOporonae share OF freight money for every mile
which IL passed. ,,
cooperation between railroads in healthy cond
ton They would have right u unite for any purpose
were duplicating railroad lines. that this process must
stop. IL a matter OF Importance to the community
railroad whose owners would be better OF II the rails
sold for old ron the ties for rewood and the track
There we're other matters in the bill more fatally de,
fectve than the fourth and fifth sections He regretted
that he had vote for the BILL and he thought there
good many other senator's In the same condition
II was bill which practically nobody wanted but which
everybody intended TO vote for Laughter III was
bll the meaning Of which no two person, agreed
but which sysySGdy sa S SSgs to pss EeM e Ell de-
clarng III could be construed so as TO make 1t be-
discrimination In favor OF the export trade OF the country
he would be unwilling to vote for the bill without making
there was anything in the bill TO prevent railroad
company from agreeing to pay to carrier which S,
carried sa1 Ss barry tho out railroad e
portion OF the profits received. Mr. Spooner stated that
hbsS 5 sGS by the s He Vas not willing to vote TO
NIT the bill with the recommendation that the antpoo
breeder-and fruitful oneof almost every evil which
had arisen In regard to the transportation quesu3n.
which had cost millions and millions of dollars
To the legitimate commerce of the country
ground that IL should be recognized legazed and put
under the supervision OF the Commission. -
OF the bl~he did not however. refer to those new
offences created by the bll-werc fully within the
jurisdiction OF the courts under the common law
Tni, bil lid not mean its friends did not mean. to
stop at tue regulation OF Interstate commerce Il meant
onsS S %sr Of int Jay gOws, Go his bis nsrps
nnon TO absorb railroads sSsr.On and wOpa pHa
not want any better law pass than than TINS ,hs
law in relation to pooling He CRITICISED r ssyesy ahe
sloners suspend from time TO time the operation or
sr. cullom rose to close the debate. He warned
that for the last had ten been
TO the principle that the Government OF the United
states had the power to regulate commerce lie would
that this report was not agreed to-
there would be no legislation ON the subject at I'M:
session; but he believed II doubtful He confessed that
there provisions IN the bill that he did not Ike.
Mr. Colqut said that II was not without great CON
ct OF opinion that he had reached conclusion IN lavor
OF the bill. lie Of the four who had voted
against the original bill II he thought that the matter
could be remanded to state anthory' ne wIu 'T,e h
ruling OF the supreme Court. Mr. Dawes saia thst
having paired with the senator from Texas tMr Ma1ey),
he would not be able 10 record his vote lie would nave
voted recOmmit the report.
The presiding officer having satedthe question 10 De on
agreeing conference report Mr. Frye moved 10 re-
the report, with instructions 10 the senate con-
fcTcss insist striking ont section No. and SUD-
stituung section No OF the Senate bill; also
on striking out section No ana substituting !or
II section No. 10 OF the senate BILL which Is the
clause authorizing the commissioners TO investigate
the subject OF pooling. and report at some futnre day
Mr. Cullom made a point OF order on the motion TO re-
commit The presiding officer Mr sherman decided that
the motion in order but not the motion 10
reconlmt with instructions. Mr. Frye changed his mo-
ton the simple one to recomnit.
The taken on the motion 10 recommlt ana inc
motion rejected by vote of % yeas 10 80 nays as
follows (Republicans In Romans Democrats In itacs;
Yeas-Messrs. Aldch. Blair. Brotcn, Cameron, Chacc
Cheney Evarts, Frye. cray HALE hampton na~ey ho1r
Mahons Mitchell OF oregon; Mitchell OF Pennsylvana;
Morgan, Morrill,. Payne Platt Sawyer SeweI Sherlsi'
spooncr WiltiaHs-25. ,,,, p
Ndys-Messrs Allison, Beck. Berry Biaekourn Bowen.
FUR 0eorse 0ttson 6orman Harrs ingalls, yonss
OF rKan,as of Nevada Mcmillan Nanderson RAIN or
Plumb iugh s,bn .ourE Teller ysmsI pSE s"'a
Pairs were announced between Messrs BWer anu IAN
Wyck Camden and stanford Dawes and Mary htnnd ana
Miller McPherson and Voorhees, and was staten ia MI
The vote hsn taken and the conference report was
agreed by vote OF 43 10 10 nays As ioows c-
pubcans IN Roman Democrats IN ltalc);
Yeas-Messrs Allison. Beck Berry Blackburn; Bowen.
Kr.tis. Fur Frye G.crge Gibson G9rman Gray hsiS N
Harris Hawey. Ingas Jones Of Arkansas Jones OF NO
vaia Mcmillan, Manderson Mitchell OF oregon pamer'
Plumb pugh -abln Sdutsbury, sawyer sewei sherman;
spooner Teller. Vance Ves WahaH WhiHhor" wilson oi
Ta1~Messrs Aldrich, Blair Brorn Cameron. Chace.
Chrney Evsrs Hampto IIoar Mitchell OF Pennsylvania,
Morrill,, Payne Platt Whlidms-la
The Senate then at ll:4O adjourned till Monday.