Telegram-herald., 1887-02-14
SUNDAY IN THE CITY
Some Ideas From Leading
Minds On Prohibition
DEPRIVATION Of PisilHlL lI8tsII
as. Charles 4nrer' Aois Discuss o.
o. ths Saoiscf -if "ioe a. Com
nanl8n Table Nine A
the Bar.
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WAX a iEss. Hoerdyks.
The .lholarly elefsym and able SER
a.sausr aev Cbarle8 Eilhfer. greaeaea
aas si als n-.l knosa sermons ia ihe Z tnl-
ser.aE,l eharrh Last % gnt. and maay peo'
{ rls sts .ta.t IS h0ms uissed clear and
I e,nels. ais.sas=.ou oi the prohibition gaes-
.8n. - sag nolbiug Of the literary Ieat si-
t.ris.f - thlas = h0 sAt a. h.. iss- aui heard
als sori
/ .f shalt choose nay text tonight. Nr.
+ Flanrer commenced as BE opviied tAr uis
eaascn Bible. 'frou the lhirt-enth verse 0i
shs 81 shth chapter 90 tlrst Corinthians
F. ssl.sr. Gore. il aieu mAss my oroshsr 60
[ o.f.na Al.l eat 40 lesl uaue tAa sufti stand
ell. ...l uase mg erstnel 70 olsna
There have come 90 my notice recently
I TAO 4rlie.-s Ou proAi9luon. ne sad. "olr
/ Ina tie last issue of >cirtcs. periodic.
/ edited by able men. and the other in caiiy
/ I4aFnal u40llshel IN th4, cay. ile fpr nitr
/ as xrfteu uF selsut8c unu and The
/ Latter by a resident Clergy uian. The author
! oi ,aarr iooks uPon pfohiotlon a. de
/ ss.8reif a. present a. An INVASION ot lcr-
/ snnsI UbefrV since D. makes no discumiua
/ fInl batxeeu the moderate Use and criminal
.ba-r ol liquor. IL is NOT right "a take
/ iluof away from those ho abuse rs use
/ To- the detnuient ~ Others, aut NJ taken
awAy fram nose Who indulge moderately
/ ier tle benefit of na3itual drinkers the act
becanses al infringement oi their personal
/ liberty he SAYS iel liquor be purchased
ana taken 5mr tor consumption, just as
meat or geg.. auirs are bought at a market
and tasen nome a. be eafca and do not
sll0e - sale for consumption on tae spot.
raere b no objection t0 the manufacture 81
Nluor on the part Of the clergy imam. hut
r.rf. -. I..r ft a. ttf far ~
-i wlu- Tor sacramen'ai purposes comes 70
him a. entirely unit tor adoption. He
woud iOraid VINE 60 al others save c)m-
/ mInicants whether they are nabit1al
arun Yards or not. This he considers 10 be
/ an abridgemeut OF Christian liberty, ana
/ would name those whom fare might call TO
be- denied that freedom, martyrs Tor con
'''s'Ss SssA 'AAs brought these two opinions
together. Zach opposes the amend
ment because rs adoption viii
anridrs personal liberty Notice how Jeai-
Gus each s Of his own liberty. one wants
y inc al home. the other in the church.
Each wants sympathy for his particular
cause. aud would deprive others OF their
liberty. How about those, who are not
allowed % drink as they please becoming
martyr. for conscience sake 1t want a
drink of beer or wine and consider that
such a dr4usht will Do refreshing 10 me,
the1 you are deprivlng me Of personal llb-
erty II you cheek me from drinking ihat
looks to me like intolerance. IN
this case would be martyr
p to my principles, u 1 saould want to
| .oin vour church. Now / DO not want %
q defend drinking. and believe that driving
ont the saloons would make less of A. but
, | n my rich friend can afford 20 keep wines IN
! nis cellar. is 10 right for me 10 let nim drink
| there and say 20 the poor man VINO IA.
| only nickla to b1y glass AZ a bar. You
must not drink The position IS not
,euahie which does not give 10 others a
| much liberty as is asked for self. II Is
= simply the old form Of intolerance sc
All - know well yet clergy men wii
s cry out for 10 and deny 10 o. hers.
b stand here and say that | viii never force
% upon another what / myself am unwilling
"a to bear lie who wlli not give up wine al
the communion table. ought not ask an
p other 70 give it up at the bar. But thei
.ty that lisa religious Ordidance and mus
/. be- carried on 1ith iermersed wine. ! rete
!. them % the text. aud be eve that dnns
would as willingly have been said a.
. meat But meat ,has never brOugh
. / families 20 sorrOw. want and deprivation
aud vine does 30 not see how Chris
Il iiau can insist On keeping up the custom o
Passing vine - tempt those who may nee'
moth ng more 90 send them % perditior
lhan caste oi ~
-f belong ID church. one which is no
recognized by me Others here and which
has only a paying connection with the
N g. A. and get our constitution will no
D permit the RAISING of fermenfed wine
p AZ communion. We would rathe
irs up the ordnance. than to offer tempta
tion t0 one 0f thlse uniOrtunate creature
who would be frenkied By the taste Of on
b. drop but 10 is ciai imed that Jesus usef
| f.I rtr., ~. a 81 aff mi
bat. bat does II not follow that one shoul'
10 make some allowance tor the times Som
b, people want "a 90 follow out all th
apostolic customs. bat that Is ont ~ th
Ia que.t.ou. What kind Oi an examp
woud Jesus be tor feet0ier, Chris
40 his meals. See Matf. NJ. Is and lA
there YOU viii read that tdrist came eatini
q, and blinking Behold a man gluttonou
and vine bi0hsr" That is a scandaiOu
p axaxr Grafton. buf IL shows that Chris
1 frank vine with them. IL Christians a-s
b.. | people tO - total abstainsrs and offer then
/ fsrmeul.d Woe at communion. - It con
sisteur 10 say that they may not use it OT
their tables t0D' Christ did. lt is a iogica
CONCLUSION that II wine j. insisted upon fo
- .ha Communiou. it may with e4gal prppr
etv he iasstrt noon for the table. Bat
~ eve chat II Jesus we're here today h
would fud SINS 10 rsbuke. harsh names Il
/ call people and got crgcihed fpr it ~
might b. a temperance man. and would no
offer drop ~ wine AZ the communion fo
ear some one world stumble he voui'
adapt hfmseIf to our umes. Now se cas-
nor aio. 9 oriental customs here. becaus.
xe are nof Oriental. nor those of the Eng
.ish f1r ve 10 not care f0 DO thai Iht0u
canfs sfe more harmful aDt desf-uct
ra naW than in Chrisfs time Ter
the scnvifv of eur race and the climate ~
i've "a nsake The rsvazes 20 alcohol mur'
erroie n ogr bodies than was the cas-,
there ar not IN many other counties.
Bar sfter sii this faix about vine e
ramrnnion. its 0aiy sVmbni ln med
.ira ftere is often the need of r. - save ife
1us here Is no such nae for if IN fbe saCra
: mert Fermentation is n1t necessarv fa
.he Sym bsfc part lf is q sacrifice 70
techr.saii y f0 adhe~e to 81. 4 look AZ fh'
text and then AZ tha reasoning of thi
-'ar-frfan MAKE me- wonder how 10 car
. etkr sr.n marrow ground lt seems is'
str4nfng AZ Fnsf and sws'l1wing 4 came.
2 ! hrf sfl fae p frfs of this Kind ~ Chrsf a.
vI ~ en tn tefasf .ae amendment. an
. tne IN rnir ssr Nav fra rtlse ae save
.rnm slrn devoted .reufs
Wake Fnefa So
TIE s.nsVraf 9li fashioned sfiiforiul o
q ne + .rsf Presbyterian ch0rch vss com tsr a.
big fle3 fes.erit7 m1rni1zsn3 che 3.rin.
srrtees ts.f rsara wa eanirrtei hV fa.
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