The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1887-11-26
Afternoon, Session.
The House reassembled at :O5.
INTERNAL POLICE BILL.


Kingdom" in Committee OF the Whole
Noble Waterhouse in the chair.
On motion of Noble Smith the bill was
read section by section, with the amend
ments offered by the majority and MN
ority of the committee.
Section I, which gives the Attorney
General the care, supervision and control
| of the entire police of the Kingdom, was
passed without debate.
| Section says there shall be Marshal
| of the Kingdom, who shall be Chief OF the
Police for the Kingdom.
The majority of the committee recon-
mend that the dismissal of the Marshal
| shall be upon the written approval OF ma
| iOritv of the Supreme Court, and that
vacancy shall be filed IN the same way.
The minority report recommend that the
| Attorney General shall have the power, to
! be approved by the Supreme Court.
Rep. Kinney moved the section as recon-
mended by the minority pass.
Rep. c. Brown moved the section as rec
commended by the majority pass.
Noble Smith said the committee had con-
! sidered the bill at length, and on the several
! points they agreed with one exception, the
arbitrary removing of the Marshal. They
| agreed that the Marshal, Sheriffs and PO-
! lice officers in office should be subject to the
! provisions of the Act. The radical point on
which they disagreed was in giving the At
! torney General the unrestricted power Of
! removing the Marshal. When they came
! to this point they hopelessly disagreed.
! The main reason for this was, in view of
! other matters before the House. presented
by the Administration. The Attorney Gen
eral wants to have supreme power to dis
miss the Marshal The Supreme Court has
as much interest in the Marshal as the At
torney General. The House ought to guard
against giving the Marshal such power.
There was an inclination to drift toward
the spoil system, and that is most PERM
cious thing. The Attorney General is I'M
willing to allow his colleagues to have any
| saw but wants the arbitrary power to him
self
Minister Ashford-If you refresh your
memory you will find that in committee l
wished the appointment to be made with
| the consent of one member OF the Cabinet.
Noble Smith, am correct in my state
ment, and the report of the Attorney Gen
| eral shows it.
Rep. Kinney said the Attorney General
sits as the fifth wheel of the coach, and the
fifth Minister was in the Police Court
Since Marshal Parle left office there has
been extreme friction between the Attorney
General and the Marshal's department.
Mr.. Parke did what the Attorney General
told him, but now if the latter were to go
down to the Marshal's office he would be
asked his business. No one could say who
the Marshal's boss is.
Rep. Kauhane was not in favor of giving
the power asked for by the Attorney Cen
eral, and should vote against it.
Rep. G. Brown said the reason for bring
ing in this bill was to remedy the defects of
the present law. From what Rep. Kinney
had said it looked as if it had been brought
in to remove the present Marshal.
Rep. Kinney-Should he be not removed
Rep. G. Brown said they should look to
the office, not to the man. If there was
any friction, and the Attorney General was
right, then the Marshal should go. The
present Cabinet was bringing in day after
day measures to centralize their power and
if they keep on with it they will be damned
by those who come after them. He hoped
his mOGlOn WOulu pass
Noble Hitchcock spoke of the condition
of the Police in HilO and other parts of Ha-
wall. Many of them ought to be dismissed,
but they say they are all right as long as
Kaulukou is Marshal. If they want an
efficient Police force they must have an
efficient head.
Noble Widemann said he could rot see
why the Attorney General should have en-
tire control of the Marshal. If changes are
needed let them be what the country needs
If they put absolute power in the Ministers
they would be sorry for it hereafter. He
could not conscientiously vote for the mi.
nority report.
Noble Young said from what had trans.
pired in the last six months they could see
/ it was necessary the Marshal should be un.
: der the control of the Attorney General
) He offered the following amendment to the
section: To insert after the words {" Attor
ney General the words g and shall also be
2 removed by said Attorney General upon the
t written request of the Justices of the Su.
preme Court, or a majority thereof"
Minister Thurston Saskatchewan this
is not my bill, it is one concerning which
have more personal feeling than any Other
which has been before the House, because
it involves principle upon which the
l whole reform movement is based-tht
+. principle of responsible government
e Under the old system we were led a si1
!, years devils dance, because the whole sys
t tenn was based on irresponsible govern
ment, and every year the evil was in
creased. First, the KING had immenst
+. powers centered in him; every session
3 added to them, and he was absolutely ire
T. sponsible. The Cabinet were responsible
in name only; they could be voted out O
the Legislature one day, and turn up smil
4 ing the next as members of new Cabine
Y Not only did we have an irresponsible