The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-07-26

written protest against the counting of his
A.-No, sir; do not know that.
Oh want TO show you Mr.. Schmidt's paper. This
is the taly-sheet of Mr. Schmidt Showing it to wit
Al suppose So heard Mr. Schmidt say it had
been changed.
Q.-lti in a yellow-looking condition.
Q.-Who did it2
Al don't know. 1t might have been done by the
clerks.
Q.-I now call your attention again to the vote for
Irwin in Schmidt's precinct. There seems to have
been scratched something from Irvin-you thatl
Q.-I call your attention to your name that same
taly-sheet Opposite your name are indications or
something being added.
Alt looks like something had been put on.
Q.-With different colored ink!
Att looks
Q-Addine to your vote sixteen, or something near
O-Your attention was called to both these places
that evening and Mr.. Schmidt protested against sign
ing that report because it not right, and you
heard mentioned there about its making a change of
about thirty two votes in your favor, did you not!
Odd you see Mr. Schmidt's poll.bookg
A.-No. sir Mr.. Bernhamer, / think, had that.
Q.-You these other sheets [pointng to the
roll of changed tally the tablet in a similar
Al don't think saw any but Coun senan's pre-
cinct 1 don't think saw Hiseys. heard some
Samuel N. Gold testified that he was the in
spector for the second precinct of the Second
ward and was a member of the capvassing board.
His testimony as to the facts in the returns in
the Sixth and Tenth wards heretofore
given. He testified that Counselman was very
drunk the night of the canvass.
Mr. Caypool-Is Mr.. Counselrnan here 1 would
like to have him identified
All the counsel for the defence in chorus-He is not
here.
Marshal Hawkins-He has just stepped out.
Daniel w. Howe testified to the good charac-
ter of Span and Beck. He enlarged upon his
answers, and grew eulogistic of Mr.. Spann.
Questioned as to the character of John l.. Rear
don, who is clerk in his court. be eau
tous that his testimony was not considered
available.
George B. Walton, grocer, testified that
George W. Budd's reputation for honesty and in
tegrty good
Stephen Matter then took the stand in his
own behalf. He said that he ffty-one
years old; had lived in this city since February,
1882; came here from Cincinnati; was a native of
came to this country. He said that he had
wife and four children The direct examination
was conducted py Mr.. McNutt
Question-You were Inspectors
Answer-In precinct three of the Thirteenth ward.
Q.-l want to call your attention to statement
made by Mr.. Perkins in regard your being II a
room in the courthouse the day the canvassing
board met in room 59R
Al have not been in Room 50 tony knowledge at
any time. don't know where it is except what has
since been pointed out to
anybody elsel
An the Circuit Court room and the ante-room of
the court.
kns of your presence in a where he and ask
whether gave your tally sheet that occasion
him or any other person!
A.No, SIR
Q.-what hour of the day or night did you make
Al think it was after night
Q.-At the time your taliy-sheets acted upon
A.-None at all. The first heard of any change
in them was at the last federal grand jury.
Q-I want to call your attention to what occurred.
and where as to any papers being handed to for
erkins up and said, Hand these Mr..
Hisey have to go and see party at once took
found him sitting the sofa in the judges room,
and handed it TO him The papers were in roll in
a newspaper. with a rubber around them.
Q.-How long did you have the papers in your
A.-Ten. fifteen twenty minutes.
Q.-I wish to call your attention a conversation
between you and Mr. Perkins your saloon at a date
do not now recollect: at which Perkins came to
speak to you about raising some money to defray his
expenses arising out of the habeas corpus
A:,Mr. Perkins came to my place of business in
proceedings and said Steve how much money are
you going TO give me. have incurred about 81 900
have all this expense" I told him had no
again and think the fourth fifth time told him
Mr.. Perkins. you bother considerably; there's no
money! said You are worth dollars to my cents
would give money for charity, but giving you
remember this; will do you up, something like
hat.
Q-Who was present when he said thata
A.-Charles Mite and George Rees.
Q-What ward do you reside inl -
A-Thirteenth.
Q.-What ward does Perkins reside inl
A.-Thirteenth.
Cross-examnation by Mr.. Claypool-Do you know
Mr. Cow
Al do.
Dwell acquainted with him2
Q-Engaged in the same busness--the saloon bust.
ness2
Odd you know that Coy had at the court |
house while the canvass going on?
A.-No, sir; heard of it until afterward.
Q-You say youwere in no room at the courthouse |
,bere Coy and Perkins WERE except in the canvass
ng and ante-room9
A.-Yes sir.
Q.-Where was it Perkins handed you Hsey's pa
Am the hall of the courthouse in front of the
Judges room-the large hall.
Q.-Where did Perkins come from, if you knowl
A.-From the east.
Q.-what did you say he said to you when he
A.-..Hand these papers to Mr.. Hisey."
Odd You know what the papers were when he
ave them to you!
Al didn't know.
Didn't you know at the time they were tally
Al didn't know
Q.-You had yonr tallysheet and polllista
Q-And these looked just like it?
A.--Yes sir, about the same size
lily Sheet
Al had no knowledge outside my thinking it
o. want to know if you didn't at that time IN
erstand and believe that the paper Mr. Perkins gave
you TO mana 10 1lsey was a tallySheetf
Ale didn't tell me it
Q.-Didnt you know he wasn't an inspector Of that
ection
Al expect did.
Odd he say anything to you about what paper it
as?
Ale did not,
Q.-Did you know that he living in the same
ard with Hisey!
Al did.
Q--Where did you go after you got this paper from
r. Perkinsl
A-Into the Circuit Court room.
Q.-Didnt you hand the papers to Hisey, saying,
Here MIR. Hisey, is your taly-sheet and poll
lper ?"
A.-No sir; did not. did not say anything.
y " GU mean to say you not IN Coy's |
ON and didn't know he had room and that Per-
ms handed you the papers and you didn't know they
ere tally-sheetsi Had impression when you |
nded them to Mr. Hisey that they were election pa
RS?
Al took no interest in the matter.
Q.-You say you had no knowledge there was any |
ange upon your paper until you heard the matter
fore the grand jury in the grand jury room.
Al do.
Q1 will ask you 90 look at the fgures-the tallies