Morning journal and courier., 1887-05-03
News by Telegraph FROM ALL QUARTERS. CLOTURE IS ENFORCED To Shut Off Debate In
 Commons. RUSSIA IN WARLIkE MOOD. Her Troops Massing On
 The Frontiers. THE BIG FLOODS IN MAINE. A Horrible Discovery In
 Bethel.
FIELD DAx1N COMMONS.

Points in the Crimes Bill Up for Dis' 1 cuss1on Which is Cut Off by CIoture. | LONDON, May 2.-In the House of Com mons tonight Mr. Healey moved that the l first clause of the crimes bill be so amended as to indicate clearly to what portions of Ire | land the bill would be applicable. He sug gested that the words proclaimed districts | be omitted and that Kerry Londonderry ano Belfast'' be inserted in their stead. MT. Bal four, chief secretary for Ireland, declined te accede to this proposal. He said the govern ment intended to apply the clause to all parts of Ireland where the prevalence of crime justified such action. MT. Healey asked if blood stained Belfast, where troops had been shot and policemen murdered, was to go free while the miserable rack-rented districts in the southwest were to be punished. Mir.
 Bafour replied that the government would
 exercise perfect impartiality in suppressing
 disorder anywhere. MT. Labeuehere said
 the scope and aim of the bill was to crush
 out the Nationalists, leaving the orangemen
 to do anything they like. The administra-
 tion of the law was so bound up with the
 Orange faction that it could not be impartial. Mr. Gladstone suggested that the words proclaimed districts" remain, but that the districts be defined under the other clauses of the bill. Ths answer of Mir. Balfour that all dis tricts would be treated impartially was not sufficient because the ministers had often re- ferred to the particular parts of Ireland where the bill was meant to operate. No doubt the people of Belfast regarded with disgust and horror the prevalence of disorder in their midst, but the same apology was equally good for other districts (''Hear! Hear!'O The conduct of some persons in Belfast recently stained the name ot Ireland more than the conduct of the people of any other part of Ireland had. (Cheers.)
 Lord Randolph Churchill said that the suggestion Mir. Gladstone made might have been valuable, but it's value had been de- stroyed by the raising of points which were calculated to lead to 8 controversy. MT. Gladstone had made himself Q party to the insinuation that the government intend ed to apply the clause only to certain parts of Ireland and leave Belfast out. There had been disorder in Belfast, but the law had not been arrested. There was no analogy be- tween the riots ill Belfast and the moonlight ing in Kerry, for which not a person had been made amenable. No one would ven ture to assert that the juries in the north of Ireland had failed to do their duty, as was often the case with juries in the south of Ireland. To put the diabolical outrages ot the south of Ireland, as MT. Gladstone did, on the same level as the disturbances in Bel fast was to condone and apologize for those outrages. (Cheers.)
 Mr. Healey replied that over three hundred persons were maimed for life and some killed in the Belfast riots and that only few of the rioters had been punished. He said the statement was untrue that there had been no convictions in Kerry. There had been over twenty MT. Holmes said that not a single moonlighter had ever been convicted. It was only by change of venue that any con- victions could be obtained. MT. Healey postponed his motion in deference to MT. Gladstone's suggestion.
 The amendment proposed by Mir. Healey that an inquiry be held only when evidence has been withheld on account of intimida- tion was rejected by vote of 206 to 110, after discussion that lasted two hours and a half. Mir. Healey then moved that the high court, not the attorney general, be empow- cred to order inquiry. Mr. Gibson, solicitor general for Ireland, replied that the government was unable to accept the amendment.
 Mr. Gladstone rising to reply to a state m6nC Dy MT. ElllOLG IIldG Ho was responsible for the equally strong system of five years ago, and that MT. Elliot overlook ed an essential difference, namely that this bill had been directed against crime, while the one under discussion was not. (Cries of ooh! Oh!'0 At least. he added, the present bill was directed against acts that had not hitherto been considered crimes. Anyway, he would not renew his former proposals, be- cause he was convinced that they aggravated the evil.
 Mr. Haldade, home rule Liberal, proposed to substitute 'tjudge" for Thigh court" and MT. Healey assented. The discussion being continued. MT. ". H. Smith, first lord of the treasury, amid cries of ''Shame!" moved to enforce the cloture rule: The mo ton was carried by a vote of 257 to 132. Mr. Gladstone and the other opposition leaders walked slowly into the opposition lobby while the Parnellites and Gladstoneites stood cheering wildly. MT. Healey's amend ment was then rejected by vote of 261 to 142.
 MT. Nolan moved to report progress on the bill. Mr. W. H. Smith said the government was unable to agree because only nine of the 40 amendments to the first clause had been disposed of. Later, however, progress was