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penditure of which no returns are
furnished by the agents, must be set
down as unlawfully expended. until
the contrary is shown.
If the authorized agents of the
Government have committed unlaw-
full acts, and fail to account for funds
entrusted to their care, the Govern
ment has its remedy at law.
These are the leading points in this
somewhat muddled case. Now, what
shall be done to calm the troubled
waters ? 1t remains for the Legisla-
ture to act promptly. The Enabling
Act, brought in by the Government,
seems to cover the whole ground. If
it does not, change it, so that it will
and without delay.
The first step is to set the Govern
ment right with It's bondholders, and
the sooner this is done, the better.
When this is done, deal next with the
financial agents
But the two parties are entirely dis
tjnct. Let the bondholders know that
we mean to keep faith with them at
all hazards, and as was agreed ON by
its agents in E. S. and D. No other
course is justiiable in this case.
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The Planters Monthly.

The Planters Monthly for November ia
packed full of original matter, the procaad'
lngs and valuable reports of the Planters,
Company's annual meeting claiming most
of the space. An article is devoted to advo'
eating a reorganization of the PIantsr.,
Company, with an enlargement of its scons
Under the title, "Hawaii's New Era,n an In
present Legislature is made. Tine ed;to -. 5 ine
cnsses Mr.. Spreckels' beet sugar nroiscs
giving the gist of an interview he had With
him ON his recent visit to the Coast NJ
whitney gives good reasons for ant1einat;n,
no material injury to Hawaiian smear - ~,
terests, at least for long time to come. fron,
the success of that enterprise. He ala,
argues that such success cannot be attained
ment. "a 1uanAge-
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CUPRENE COURT OF TILE


~ Hawaiian Islands-In Probate. In the mat
ter or the Estate Of JOHN o. DAVIES late az
Waiaua, Oahu, deceased
On Hing the petition and accounts of Robert
Levers, Executor. lby mis- attorney in fact Joseph
y. CarterJ OF the Will OF John o. Davies wherein
ne asks TO be allowed 81 206 %, and CHARGES him.
self with Sg,3I3.41, and asks that the sarne may
oe examined and approved, and that a anal orgfel
may pc maze OF distribution OF the property re-
manning In his hands to the persons thereto
entltled, and diseharging him and his snreries
from all further responsibility a. such Execufor
1t Is ordered. that TUESDAY. the eth day az
Deeem per, 1871 at ten O'Clock A. NJ. at Chambers
IN the Court House at Aliiolani Hale, Honolulu
be and the same hereby Is appointed az me tfnsq
ana place Tor hearing said petition and accounts
anu anu thal an persons interested may then and
mere appear and show cause. If any thev bave.
why the same should not be granted. and NAV
present evidence as to who are entitled 10 ~
s S;. property And that this order in the Eng
iish ana Hawaiian languages. be published in
the HAWAIIAN GAZETTE and ,,,s,-s-,e, = =.
printed and published i'm Honolulu for fbrss
successive weeks previous 70 the time thereto
appointed tor said hearing '-
DATED at Honolulu. this nth day Of Nov. iss7.
by the Court: Henry SMITH
Deputy Clerk 1892 "a
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CUPREME COURT OF THE ma

~ walian lslands.-ln Probate.
In the matter of the estate OF HON ABRA-
HAM Fernandez deceased. OF Honolulu.
Oahu.
On filing the petition Of John H. Brown OF
Honolulu, alleging that Honorable Abraham
Fernandez died interstate at Honolulu, 20
the first day of November 1887, leaving (ana
perty necessary for administration and Drayis4
that letters OF Administration issue to HIM. ~
1t is ordered that TUESDAY. the 2gth day -
November, 1897 at 10 O'Clock A. NJ. be and
hereby is appointed for hearing said petition in
the Court Room Of his Court. at Aliiclani Hale
Honolulu. at which time and place all persons
concerned may appear and show cause. il any
they have, why said petition should not be
granted and that this order be Published in the
English language for three successive issues in
the HAWAIIAN GAZETTE newspaper in Honolulu.
Dated Honolulu, November 9TH, 1857
By the Court:
81 1872 HENRY SMITH DENNY CLERK
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HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ISLAND OF OAHU.
Honolulu-Frank Hustace, ]. L.
Dowsett, Jr., A. P. Kalaukoa and D.
L. Naone
Eva and Waianae-A. Kauhi.
Waialua and Koolauloa = Cecil
Brown.
Koolaupoko-Frank Brown.
ISLAND OF HAWAII.
Hilo-Henry Deacon and Kamai.
Hamakua-W. A. Kinney.
Kohala-J Mcguire.
Kau-J. Kauhane.
North Kona-G. P. Kamauoha.
South Kona-J. D. Paris
ISLAND OF MAUI.
Wailuku-O. Nawahine and w. H
Daniels.
Makawao-E Helekunihi.
Lahaina-C. F. Horner.
Hana-J. U. Kawainui.
ISLAND OF KAUAI.
Hanalei-A. S. Wilcox.
Lihue, Koloa and Eleele-W. H.
Rice.
Waimea and Niihau-F Gay.
ISLANDS OF MoLoKAI AND LANAI.
j. w. Nakaleka and A. P. Paehaole.
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and plain common sense lead to the
conclusion that the veto is sanctioned
by them. Now the Constitution says
article 49,, that the King shall sign
or veto bills. But Article rs clears
that matter up. wherever by this
Constitution any Act is to be done or
performed by the King or the sover-
eign, it shall, unless otherwise ex-
pressed, mean that such Act shall be
done and performed by the sovereign
by and with the advice and consent
of the Cabinet" This is the key to
the whole matter. The King may
veto bill Shy and with the advice
and consent of the Cabinet" The
Cabinet thus place themselves in such
a position that it requires two-thirds
of all the elective members to defeat
them. But defeat under such circum-
stances is naturally and necessarily
followed by their resignation.
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CUPREME COURT OF THE

~ Hawaiian Islands -In Probate
In the matter of the estate Of CHARLES
WARREN CLARK. OF HOnolu,u. Oahu deceased
Order appointing time for probate of Will and
directing publication OF notice OF the same.
document. purportiug 10 be the last viii and
testament of Charles Warren Clark deceased
having on the eighth day of November 1857. been
presented TO said Probate Court. aud n petition
Tor the Probate thereof. and for the Issuance OF
letters testamentary 10 Mrs Ellen p CLARK The
widow. having been filed by her 1t Is hereby
ordered, that TUESDAY. the sixth dav Of De
cem6er, leS', at 10 o'clock. A NJ, OF said day. at
the Court Room Of seid Court. at Aliiolani Hale.
Honolulu, be. and the same Is hereby appointed
the time for proving said Will and hearing said
Application, when and where any person inter
ested may appear and contest the said VIII. and
the granting of letters testamentary.
1t is further ordered that notice thereof be
given by publication for three successive weeks
in the HAWAIIAN GAZETTE and Kuokoa news
papers, printed and published in Honolulu.
Dated Honolulu November Sth, 1887.
By the Court:
3t 1892 HENRY SMITH Deputv Clerk
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- IsTAMPsI i
n TIE SUPREME COURT OF-A

0.'idil hluLlOuls
Islands, King: ' ia -'iA-
10 the Marshal Of the Kingdom. or hfs den,,v
gIeeung: 10n are hereby Commanded to nm 40
CnAhLkS ross. defendant in case he sell sIc
mlIlten answer within twenty days after serrice
11eIeoi, 70 be aud appear before me Snnrer1e
~ az me Octoper Perm thereof. to be holden
az me Court Room Of the Court House. HonoinIg
IN thc Island Of Oahu. on Monday. the I'd dsv az
yet next a. 10 o'clock a m. to show causs ,vlv-
me claim OF Maria a Foss. plaintiff shouId nat
annexed petition t9NVi % Hst
And have you then there this writ ,vi,b sr,t
return OF yonr proceedings thereon
witness. Hon A FRANCIS JTTDD
tsEAL) chief Justice OF our Saureme
court az Honolulu. fhisi0th dav
OF Sept A 1851
Il REST.
Tce.,fs- .t.., I'd Dep Clerk
ceIliiy that the foregoing is true copv III the
thi ION ~ sald cause. and that said Cont has
sn,s Jay ordered publication OF The same. md
continuance Of said cause 10 the 1ert Is.n e.
Dat, Dated Honolulu, Oct s. 1857.
'''' 0' WM. FOSTER, ClerR.
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Eroal Embellishments.
NIRCUIT COURT THIRD JTT-

CIRCUIT COURT THIRD JU-
~ dicial District Hawaiian Islauds.-fn Pro
bate. In the Estate Of !. ". KATNAPAU. q
North Kohala. Hawaii. deceased.
On reading and fling the petition Of e. T.
Hart, Administrator of the Estate Of ). W Ka-
inapau. of North Kohala. Hawaii. deceased. ask
ing that his final accounts be examined aud
approved. and that the remaining property be-
passed 10 the persons thereuntO entitled. and
that he and his snreries be discharged.
Notice is hereby given 10 all whom to may con
Germ, that THURSDAY, the 9Th day Of January
A. ID. 1888 in the Court House at Ili0. Hawaii
at 10oclock A. N. is the time and place appointed
for hearing said petition and any objections that
may be offered thereto.
z. 5. LYMAN.
Circuit Judge. Third judicial District Haw'n Is.
HilO. Hawsi, Nov 81 1851. ff94 81
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CUPREME COURT OF THE

~ Hawaiian Islands I'm Chambers In the
matter Of the Bankruptcy Of A. BARNES. Of
Waikiki, Maui.
Whereas the above named Bankrupt. Albert
Barnes, has this day fled petition % be dis
charged by order of Court from his debts and
liabilities.
Now therefore upon filing said petition for
discharge from his debts by said Bankrupt ir Il
hereby ordered that WEDNESDAY the 2sfh dav
OF December, A. ID. 1881. at Chambers in Alitolanf
Hale, Honolulu. be and the same is hereby ap-
pointed for the hearing OF said application for
discharge from deOts when and where am credit
ors who have proved their debts In this proceed
ing may appear aud SNOW cause il anv they have
why the said Bankrupt should not be granted his
discharge rs aforesaid.
And IL is further ordered that this order be.
FuOhshed IN the HAWAIIAN GAZETTE a news
paper published at Honolulu Oahu FOR two
weeks, and also that notice be given By mail BY
the Clerk to ali snch creditors who have proved
their claims against said Bankrupt herein of the
time and place Of the hearing Of said petition
for discharge.
Dated this November = 1881
RICHARD f. BICKERTON
Justice Of the Supreme Court
Attest: j. II. REST
lly@ ~ Second Dpputv CLERK
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The question as to the response
bility of the veto as provided in the
Constitution was fairly raised in the
Legislature by Mr.. Townsend's ques-
ton directed to the Minister of Fl
nance. 1t seems somewhat strange
that there should be any difference in
interpreting the Constitution on this
point but it is a fact that there is a
difference of opinion even among the
members of the Legislature. In Eng
land the idea that the Sovereign has
an irresponsible right of veto has
long since ceased to be held among
statesmen of even moderate ability.
1t would be held beneath the dignity
of Queen Victoria to put herself in
the attitude of one contending with
statesmen and politicians of her
realm. She is held to stand above all
political squabbles. If she should
veto an Act no one familiar with the
workings of the English Constitution
would interpret that as an indication
Of a conflict between the Queen and
the Parliament. 1t would simply show
that, on the question under consider
alton, the Government and the Par
lament are at loggerheads. And I'M
less the attachment to the Govern
ment, on the part of some of those
who favor the measure vetoed, is very
great, vote or want of confidence is
the natural sequence.
II lie crnToY,o ll1y
Constitution is based upon usages
under the English Constitution. If
so we may look for somewhat SINH
lar provision in it. In point of fact
we find a similar provision there.
Article Al of the Constitution saws,
" No act of the King shall have
any effect unless it be counter
signed by a member of the
Cabinet, who by that signature
makes himself responsible" A veto
is certainly an ''act," and very sig
nifcant one. But this provision is
not very explicit. Article AZ, how
ever, says, ''The Cabinet hold seats
er-9Btcto, in the Legislature, with the
right to vote, except on a question of
want Of confidence in them.' This is
sufficiently explicit to satisfy any can
did mind that there is absolutely bnt
one class of questions on which mem
bers of the Cabinet may not vote.
and questions of want of confidence
alone constitute that class. Now
Article AS, after reciting the course Of
procedure in case of veto, saws. eff
after such reconsideration it shall be
approved by two-thirds vote of all
the elective members of the Legisla-
ture 1T shall become a law" Why
does it say eleetiUe members? Does the
article contemplate such child's plav
as allowing the Cabinet to vote. but
letting their vote count for nothing?
Certainly not. 1t means that mem
bers OF the Cabinet have no vote on
the reconsideration of bill after If
has been vetoed. Article ~. as we
have seen, provides that thew NAV
vote on all matters except questions
of want of confidence in them The
conclusion is inevitable, then. that
the reconsideration of vetoed bill Is
in the nature of vote of want of
confidence in the Cabinet. And If
they must assume the responsibility
for the veto, then cold-blooded logic
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IT is startling to find the Reform
Legislature Withholding information
from the public which The late Minis
try refused to submit to the former
Legislature. The document in ques-
ton was produced by the present
Ministry without any restrictive
condition, being elected by the same
process as most of the information on
administrative affairs published since
the session opened.
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IN THE CHAMBERS OF, THE


4 Circuit Judge Second Judicial Cirrult Of The
Hawaiian Islands-ln Probate. Island OF Maui
Hawaiian Islands. TsEAL.I
IN the matter Of the Estate Of CIGAS. SYLVIA,
late of Wailuku, Maui, deceased
- document, purpOrting to be the last viii and
Testament of Chas. Sylvia, late OF Wailuku. de-
ceased having on the 10th day OF November A
ID. 1881, been presented TO said Probate Court.
ana petition for the Probate thereof, and for
the issuance of Letters Testamentary &c Thos. W
Everett. having been fled by him.
Notice is hereby given, that WEDNESDAY
the l4th day Of December, A. D. 1887 at 10 O'clock
a. NJ, OF said day. at the Court Room OF said
Court, at Wailuku. be. and the same is, hereby
appointed the time for proving said Will and
nearing said application. when and where any
pers09nI, interested may appear and contest the
tary.
1t is further ordered, that notice thereof be
given by publication. for three successive weeks
In the HAWAIIAN GAZETTE a newspaper printed
and published IN Honolulu
Dated Waikiki. November H. 1887
GEO. E. RICHARDSON.
Circuit Judge Second Judicial Circuit. IL
Hip
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THE NE " LEGISLATURE.
HOUSE OF MOBILES.
ISLAND OF OAHU.

ISLAND OF OAHU.
S. g. Wilder, Mark P Robinson,
James 1. Dowsett, Sr., Alex. Young,
A. Jaeger, w. R. Castle, w. o. Smith,
Henry Warehouse and W. E. Foster.
ISLAND OF HAWAII.
S. G. Luhiau, ]. Wight, G. Motley,
c. Wall, H. S. Townsend and D. H.
Hitchcock.
ISLANDS OF MAUI, MoLoKAI AND LANAI,
H. P Baldwin, E. H. Bailey, John
Richardson, Jas. Campbell, H. A
Widemann and P. n. Makee.
ISLANDS OF kauai AND NIIHAU.
Geo. n. Wilcox, c. Bertelmann
and Geo. II. Dole.
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vintnrions vnnda1in.

The Mohioan and Vandalia oarsmen had a
fresh pull in four-oared gigs Thursday morn
ing. Course to the spar buoy and back
The Yaudalians won by half boat length
The winning crew were: Rourke stroke
Bunker 2, Howard 3, Jacques 4. Smith coz
vain. They were challenged within an hour
by the apprentice boys of the Juniata. A
good deal of interest is taken on board both
ships in the result.
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Tor Sale.

The Hawaiian Bark KAIMIl.oA, with auxiliary
steam power, as she now lies in The harbor
The vessel is in fret-class order and repair
Particulars concerning the machinery and out
iii can be obtained at the Interior Department.
LORRIN A. THURSTON,
Minister Of the Interior.
Honolulu, Oct. -. 1887. 60 11sS-tf
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NOTES AND COMMENTS.

The European Conference on sugar
bounties was to meet in London on
Thursday. It's deliberations may have
important results on the sugar situa-
ton, but again they may be nothing
more than talk.
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"What is your opinion on this
Shakespeare Bacon controversy ? y
asked a journalist of an impeeunious
legitimate actor. "Don't ask me. Pve
stuck to Shakespeare so long that it is
years since L have had n chance to
know what Bacon is like
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Sale of Lease of Government Land.

ON TUE SDAY, December % 1887. at the front
entrance Of Aliiolani Hale, at u noon. will be
sold the Lease of the Government Lot situate on
the makai, Waikiki, corner of Richards and
Queen streets, Honolulu, for term of u years
TERMS: Upset price $50 per annum, payable
semi-annually in advance
L. A. THURSTON,
Minister of Interior
Interior Office, Nov. IA, 1887. 1872 Ct
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ALL who are interested in the
varied development of national re-
sources should read Mr.. Forsyth's
paper on coffee culture in the Plan
ters' Monthly. It removes some popular
misconceptions regarding the cultiva-
ton of that product, besides giving
encouragement to the belief that it
can be made one of our most profita-
BILE articles of export.
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THE WEEKLY GAZETTE

is published every Tuesday. is an excellent read
able family journal. mailed to all parts of the
Kingdom free Of postage
The weekly Gazette, pei $500
SIX mOnths..........-.. 2.5O
TEMs s-Stricty in advance.
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NOBLE You've remarked on Satur
day, in the course of the debate on
the police organization bill, that,
under the old regime, the Supreme
Court was the only relic of righteous
ness we had in the land
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TRANSIENT ADVERTISING-Pe line. solid
nonpareil: First insertion, 10 cents; each subse-
quent consecutive insertion, cents. Advertise
ments not inserted every day. 10 cents per line
for each insertion. No advertisements inserted
in this class for lesc than 50 cents.
REGULAR COMMERCIAL ADVERTISING,
as distinguished from everything of transient
character-that is 10 say, advertising referring
to regular Mercantile and Manufacturing bust
ness-published per scaleIof charges which
can be seen at the Office of publication.
PROFESSIONAL CARDS. Classified, 10
cents per word per month. No card inserted for
less than $500.
Notices inserted amongst reading matteritems,
10 cents per line for each and every insertion.
Where cuts are inserted they must be ALL
METAL-not mounted on wood.
Advertisements unaccompanied by specific
instructions inserted until ordered ont.
Advertisements discontinued before expira-
ton of specified period viii be charged the same
"a If continued for full time.
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Moxie is not medicine or stimulant but
nutritious and tonic food. Sold on draucht
at the Elite ice cream parlors.
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Bn 1utlloritp.

NgH
IN re the Trustees of the Fort
Street Church and Con-
gregatiOn.
WHEREAS, Corporation originally chartered as
the Second Foreign Church and Congregation
of Honolulu. which name and style was, by
Resolution of Privy Council, on the 2sth day
of January, 1856, changed to the Trustees of
Fort Street Church and Congregation. has.
pursuant to the Laws in such case made and
provided, duly filed. with the undersigned.
petition for the dissolution of the said
Corporation, together with a Certificate
thereto annexed, as required by Law; now,
therefore,
NOTICE is hereby given TO any and all persons
who have been or are now interested in any
manner whatsoever in the said Corporation,
that objections TO the granting of the said
petition must be filed in the Interior Office on
or before the 26th day of January, 1855, and
that airy person or persons desiring TO be
heard thereon must be in attendance at the
said Interior Office, in Aliiolani Hale, Homo
lulu, al Il a m, of that day, and show cause
why said petition should not be granted
L A THURSToN.
Minister of Interior.
Interior office. Nov %. 1851 119i lOt
PIERRE JONES, ESQ. has this day been
appointed Commissioner of Fences for the Dis
trict of Kona Oahu. The Board now consists as
follows:
BROWN,
D Kahanu,
Jones.
LA THURSTON,
Minister of Interior.
Interior Office Nov % 1887. 1884 st
EDWARD W PURvIs has this day beer ap-
pointed Executive Inspector of Animals for the
Island Of Kauai, in place of 5 W Wilcox, resigned
The Board now consist as follows:
Edward W Purvis, Executive Inspector;
Samuel Hundley,
Louis Kahlbaum.
LORRIN A THURSTON,
Minister of Interior.
j G HOWE has this day been appointed
Commissioner Of Fences for the District of La
haina, Maui, in place of J c Kirkwood deceased.
The Board now consist of the following persons:
Kla Nahaolelua
E Kaiue
j HOWE
L a THURS TON,
Minister of Interior.
Interior Office, Nov Il, 1887. 1888 St
JOHN LUCAS, Esq. has this day been ap
pointed an Agent 10 Take Acknowledgements TO
Labor Contracts for the District of Honolulu.
Island of Oahu, in place of W Aud, resigned.
LORRIN A THURSToN.
Minister of Interior
Interior Office Nov Is, 1887 1885
HENRY MARTIN ESQ. has this day been APP
pointed an Agent to perform Marriage Ceremony |
for the Kingdom.
LoRRIlS A. THURSTON,
Minister of Interior.
Interior Office, Nov. 10Th. 1887. 81 1892
The following persons have this day been APP
pointed members of the Board of Inspector of |
Animals for the Island of Kauai
Samuel W Wilcox.
Samuel Hundley,
Louis Kahlbaum.
LoRRIN A. THURSToN.
Minister of Interior
Interior Office, Nov. 1,1SS7. st 1872
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Auction Sale of Ava Licenses,

There will be sold at Public Auction on TUES
DAY, the 9th day of December, 1887. the follow
ing Ava Licenses, for the term of one year from
January l. 1855.
OAHU.
Honoulu.-........... 3 Eva and Waianae.... /
Koolaupoko. ......... waialua ........... l
MAUI
Lahaina .............. . Hana............... l
Makawao ....-........
HAWAII.
Hilo -................. 2 North Kohala........ l
Kau...................1i
KAUAI,
Hanalei.---.---------. l Lihue. /
kawaihau...--.......- Koloa................. /
Nalmea..-...-........1
The licenses for the Island of Oahu will be sold
at the front entrance of Aliiolani Hale on the
above named date at Il o'clock noon.
Those for the other islands will be sold in the
respective Districts, the same date and at such
hour and place as shall be designated by the sew
eral Sheriffs their deputies.
Upset Price-Honolulu, $500 for each license:
Hilo and Lahaina $500 for each license, and for
all other Districts above named. 500 for each
license.
Terms-A deposit of twenty-five per cent. re-
quired upon The fall of the hammer and forfeit
Of said deposit should the full amount of license
not be paid within ten days from the day of sale.
L. A. THURST0N,
Minister of Interior.
Interior Office. Nov 10, 1887. S6-3t 1872 If.
The following persons have this day been ap-
pointed members of the Board of Commissioner
Of Fences for the District of Waikiki, Island of
Maui:
WA. Mckay.
A. y. Kepoikai,
W. B. Keanu.
L. A. THURSTON,
Minister OF the Interior.
Interior Office, Nov. 9Th, 1887. 1892 st
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ADVERTISERS, When sending in their
favors, are requested to state dis
tinctly whether they are intended for
the daily or weekly or both editions of
the GAZETTE, and how long they wish
them to continue.
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A CORRESPONDENT of the Bulletin
writes
If we are to be saddled by more of such
wanton laundering as has characterized the
sanitary, educational, judicial, financial and
military measures of our new Government,
many people will feel like joining the King
in service of public thanksgiving that this
is not a Hawaiian Republic with an Ameri-
can President.
Give that calf more rope