New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-04-08
BROADWAY ELEVA1ED ROAD.
wEsT-sIDE PRopERTY-owNERs ASK FOR IT..


part OF tho city above Fyninst AMI west OF Ceh'ra
Park. They have been dissatisfied with the proposed
plans OF the Manhattan Railway Company Tor ne" rou'e
declaring that these would not relieve the upper
part Of the city. Yesterday Lawson n. Fuller
W. S. Whitman J.. p Grifen, ex-Commssioner
OF Jurors Dunlap audI other westside propery-owners
appeared before the Rapid Transit Commission staea
their grievances and urged that railroad should be aa
in Broadway. This the Commission is not empowered
TO do Mr. Fuller said;
"a great many people said that they would come here
today II 1t for standing they would have
to stand up In riding up home the elevated roads
You have asked, Messrs Commi sODers what is tho
population above Onehundred fortyfith-st; IL IS
what 10 has been for the last twenty-five years Inc
most beautiful part OF this island is above Onehundred
andforty fth-st. and yet the west side IL stahds
where it did twenty years ago Since the elevated
roads wero built IL buildings have been put up aooVe
that point you wish to build up that part OF the city,
you ought to have elevated railroad up the Boulevard
We twenty years behind the demands or transit
in this city. What the people want is more faciiues
There is not propcrtyowner above Fftynnth-st west
OF Central Park who does not want an elevated road from
the Battery mp Broadway and the Boulevard to the
upper end OF the island. and another ROAD
up westst and Tenthave. That is what is needed ana
what was intended when the elevated roads were first
laid o. T. Potter favors elevated road In Broad
way some oppose II, some oppose the arcade. we IN
the upper end Of the island want elevated roadn Broad
way AM the arcade under IT, The increased facilities OF
travel have got to lie the sle mainly. Why we
want an elevated road in Broadway-and we believe IL
will he ny caheis because II will be less expensive
AMI give better accommodations and do away with smoke
and steam"
Mr. Anderson Is It your idea that cable
any number OF GAYS
yr Tull,r-Yes sir The cable power is limited only
by The power ~ TIE locomotive and the size OF the cable
Mr. sIanton-And the speed!
MIR. Fgler-NOu regulate that as you please
You a cable keep IT going at five miles an
hour fast as yOu want It, | have ridden Oh INC
cable tv enty-lyc miles an hour You can run hity
mile hour II You want TO- jas. as fast ~ the city Or
dlnance allow3
Mr. Anaer,on-C an you grip onto the cable when going
a: flty miles an hour
Nj. Fucr-Ceriainy; you can put the grip on gentiy
OF hard enough Jerk you OF your feet Starting cable
car ye plcasantest sensation ia the world You can
The cable az eight ten twelve or twenty-five mics
hour simply depends on the size OF the CABLE ana
u Tire wheels and power OF the engnc-statonary'
The cable viii used the elevated roads as wei as
the sur .cr anticipate that these elevated roads that
Will De hut will he run by cable The plan Is absolutely
feasible. We must have increased transit iaclE
Ties The Second aud Third lines must be ex-
tended 20 fifthst, and there must
he elevated roads up Broadway and the Boulevard one
OF the greatest outrages the public in tile last few years
the broadway surface road ending at
-, What will you do about the people above thati The
elevated going uptown take more people at fou
tenth AMI Twenty third sts than they unload And yet
the Manhattan road proposes TO- Join its new ines 20 te
OIL below Fourteenth 81 How VIII that relieve tue
through travel demands believe there Is going 10 De
a ,ol hghL The Manhattan and Metropolitan and horse
railroads going ut each other am gad OF II MI
Field talked OF putting half million In the elevated road
lie W.. toll that he might well throw ms money ino
i lie sal he would II he failed he would he called
a fool AMI II he made million and nall ne would ne
called rascal He was good fighter ana ne Won new
there Is gOsl fighter 20 whispers say behind INC
Metropolitan Transit Company. hope he Is In II; Il
means the city Will have good road III the interest
Sir. Anderson Where do you want routes laid out !
Mr.. Fullcr-Up broadway aud the BoueVaIu. ~
MIR Anderson-It is against tie law for this Commis-
lion To lay out routes there. ,
Mr. Fulcr-Ihe property owners have called meeting
next week at Washington Heights to call on the esis-
larc repeal the law The law does not prohibit you
Ia suy that nm Elevated road IL needed IN Broadway
Mr. Anierson-As an individual have said IL aud isay
Me- "InnrerSwond not a railroad up west-s Chris
topher-s aud thence to connect with the s'xihaVe.
s,r F9llsr"No air You would only pick up poo
ple 10 crush rs into Jelly at Eighth st This Is on mo
ica that the city stops at Eighth or Fourteenth OF I"eh
Nj Andsrson-what is the population above ouc-hun-
MIR Fuller horiy-That Is the old question That
has nothing with giving facilities for through travel
that way We are going have increased facilities up
there aud the Manhattan Company wont give It, The
Metropolitan Transit or some other company Will
Mir Whitman then took up tho cudgeL lie pointed 20
the map and asked commissioner Anderson: . suppose
/
and Market sts will such action, c0nrIned not place
Manhattan Company in complete contsol OF al YER
lower end or the Island Noulb IL
out any other company fron ever building
s snes ne srnes the tpnnssoner forcby aud
Mr. Ihurber said that some other company ghl so 'nc
IN. made Mr. whitman smile when a railroad gets n
night to the street he sad' that genefaS meanS ue
Mr t,rfen and Mr. Dunlap urged the views Mr.
Grnen said subsequently, " We want an elevated road
down Broadway That Is tne only s1.u1n OF He Iuq hs
of uh Ia
only way left to give RAPID transit RELIEF ahsoutey
ground road
MIR PorTER's LETTER on RAPID TRANSIT
On March TmE TRIBUNE published an interview with
o. Is. Potter. who expressed an opinion IN FAVOR Oh an
elevated railroad In Broadway, provided III were con-
suucicd under certain conditions cable or electric motor
as the power ami structure wholly OF steel being Inc
main features suggested by him. The Commercial Adre-
nser subsequ enty published article In which besides
Others II put these words into Mr.. Potters mouth:
WAS as surprised every one else seems TO nave
been, when learned from IiE Iiibu NJ last meunesS
to the editor OF that journal very post
some reason ut 10 withhold my letter o publ
| cation.
Mr. Potter declares that The Commercial AdrsrtSer mis-
represented him and made him say things when
he never said. Mr.. Potter states That
the views OF William A. Wheeock, ex-presient OF the
Central National Bank and OF other Broadway property
owners published In THE TRIBUNE ON April q, favor
ing steel road with run by cable or electricity.
with pillars tho curbstone aud the tracks over the
centre Of the express his views and he adds
" believe that a majority Of the Broadway property
owners hold the opinion. But we wish to see den
mite plans To this effect"
Mr. Potters letter, which THE TRIBUNE placed at the
disposal OF The Comm -rch advertiser. but which
that paper has not III 10 publish II As follows
POTTER BUILDING. ~ Y. CITY. March 80, 1881
TO theEdftsr Of The NrWYork Tribune:
Broadway should be stated accurately AMI FULLY TIE TB
UNI, and not partially.
It's true that oppo'oi To ths underground raroau
known Arcade railroad. upon Broadway because
testimony ~ all capaoc ehSl
nee builders au architects who cranned the question
that such clnnUt OF the width and depth pro
posed except removing tho rJn of alt te OhllnSs
rebuilding the iron foundations as low as the pro-
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