The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-07-23

tinued until Lorenz schmdts precinct the first pre-
cinct of the Twenty-third ward was reached, when
| Mr.. Schmidt stepped up and unroed his papers. Mr.
Many. who sitting beside the chairman unrolled
the tallysheet before him. He was, think calling
off the vote He called through the State ticket and
county ticket until he to the OF criminal
judge. thnk,-but am not certain of the order
saying he thought mistake existed there or some
thing of that sort. | went up, did some
found found it had been O changed with reference to
| criminal judges--ffteen sixteen votes changed
from one to another. and also that there was
change in the vote of coroner. something more than
twenty votes being taken from the Republican eand1-
e Of the Il eee by Which Mr.
| number of votes. which were added to Mr. Hugo,
| and acid had been used the removal of tallies not
being simply made by The lower sheet which
candidates had been injured somewhat by the acid
going through. There good deal of excitement,
sheet and poll book should be brough from the clerks
Office below. The chair ruled before and they
| Republicans insisted it should be Mr.. Schmidt
listened to. his protest UNDECIDED and the
toward morning probably 3 o'clock when they reached
the end of the count the last precinct called being
precinct of Wayne township, of which Hiram Miller
so@ebody or him While %
| Fourth ward, which had been passed.
| Mr.. Counselmap forward, handed
! his tally-sheet and pollbook and the
count proceeded. They counted along as we thought
they ought agreeing with our tables until criminal
judge was reached, when there appeared change of
twenty votes-forty-two in all-twentyon taken
from the Republican and given to the Democrat.
There was then more clamor and noise than at any
time as 1 remember. Dr. Wagner got upon the table
Chicago" and good deal of noise / the
ures and changes, and they about the other
cases. Counseman was standing there. the
presidents desk and asked him where those papers
had been since the close OF the election board He
said he gave them to Mr. Davis. l remember. the
Republican judge, and that had returned them to
him lCounsemanI My next question was where
they had been since that time. Mr. Span. who
standing near said he needn't any questions,
and he did not Then the fourth precinct of Wayne
township came in, and that ended the count might
that at the time of the excitement and talk about
the changes Mr. Coy N the and part of the
time during the count coming in and out aud think
at the time the Fourth ward matter up towards
morning noticed him there about the railing in the
where the judge sits and in the judges
Judge Walker and Judge Howe were there and some
other Republicans, VINO were complaining, ana COY
said 1t ism thing you ought to squeal about; we
like that had been done on the other side That is all
rembember TO have heard said. The ink tho
fouTth-"ard tally-snees was fresh NIX II was dry,
put the color was not set 1t was at that tune easy to
distinguish in the line of tales where the old tales
anything that Bernhamer said except that the sheets
must be. used, that the count must be made from
them.
Q.-Reate the in which the reading and
counting done.
forward with poll book and tally sheet took his
place the right of the presiding officer. Mr. MANY
sat the presiding officer and when the
was handed to the presiding oficer-it usually
handed to BerDhamer-he took it and unroed it.
Mr.. Many watched the tally sheet to that they
eorresPOnded The count was made all the way
through from the tallysheets that were produced
Q-Whst was Counselmans condition on that day
and night.
Al do not know that can say exactly. He stood
there in stupid sort of way, his face flushed
than usual His conduct impressed me at the time as
peculiar but was not able determine whether he
WAS badly scared or drunk. did not see him walk,
and could not tell whether he could walk straight
not, and did not hear him talk much. had good
means of knowing his condition, but there was. l
think, something the with him. could not
whether frightened.
Cross-examined by Jason b. Brown want to call
your attention first the meetings that took place
the part of yourself Mr.. Ransdell, General Car
nahan. You three gentlemen were. 1 think, at the
Republican headquarters of the county?
A-There is whore we started from at the Bates
block almost = across the street from this
publican county committee, and we were members of
Q.-You had received information that Coy
giving directions in regard to the outside taysheesa
Ave had heard just what Mr. Becker testified
Did Coy say he was no chump2
Q.-Didn'the say I'VE have beaten you and there is
to resort to any such methods
Al think he said We have got enough votes,
anyhow"
Q-You testified that in the Landers case they went
to the bag and got the tally paper!
A.-Yes, sir; they did.
Q.-Do you remember the number of members the
A.-There were eghty-eight precincts in the county
and subsequently, the board consisted of that number
time. There outsiders also there, and the
crowd was pretty large at some times. The tables
used were not official returns. but were semioficia
They reports from the papers and the commit
tees had asked reports from the different precincts
There was q circular sent by General Carnahan
that Isaw did not prepare it, but looked it over.
My not attached to it. 1 did not any
thing Objectionable in it.
Mr.. Brown-You and I might disagree as to
whether there was anything Objectionable in it.
Noon having arrived, the court adjourned until
2 o'clock p NJ.
The afternoon sitting of the court began with
the examination of Prof. John n. Hurry. 1t
an unusual and interesting spectacle to see
the operations of the laboratory transferred TO
courtroom. and as the chemist took a number
of bottles from his pocket and after close in
specton of the spots-the damned spots that
would Lot out" on the Schmidt tally sheet-he
made a number of delicate tests with his
the table upon which lay the tally-sheet which
he was testing, was surrounded by
the attorneys both sides of the
A number of the defendants also looked on with
much apparent interest Mr. Gov did not 90
the table, doubtless fearing that the tally
sheet might still be loaded. Dr. Charles N.
Metcaf who, by Mr.. Perkins's testimony, is
charged with having used acid upon this partic-
ular sheet kept as far away from it possible
while Professor Hurry was at work, and sat with
a newspaper 10 hand. He held 1t so long In one
position that those no observed him suspected
that his mind far away from the lettered
field before him Mr. Sellers then examined the
chemist.
Queston-Stnte whether not you have made
chemical test these papers to determine wheth
Answer have just completed the chemical test
There is abundant evidence of acid now the pa
Q.-Are you able to give opinion to whether |
not it used upon this paper a recent date
time last November!
Al say IS any time, less; but
acid will expepd itself and longer be detected.
Such time has not elapsed in this
Q.-How long time would probably be necessary
where papers have been kept in a vault or safel
Alt would require good many months, in my |
Judgment, but in time it would be obliterated.
Q.-What test did you make!
Al applied the bluelitnus paper test, which
will always turn red in the presence of an acid.
Q.-Did it turn red in this case
A.-4es sir. | also applied the bariurn test, and |
the result fine granular precpltate
Q.-What kind of acid was used
A.-Sulphurous or sulphuric Sulphurous becomes |
ullhuric know sulphuric is there now.
John l.. Griffiths member of the House of |
Representatives In the General Assembly, from
Marion county, was the next witness. He spoke |
of his being a looker-on, interested spectator,
hahn at he I'd