New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-10-03
THE THISTLES SUCCESSOR.
Mr.. WATSON WILL DESIGN THE NEwYAcHT.
1T WILL PROBABLY BE CUTTER OF THE FIRST
CLAss-TALK ABOUT Tile RoAr.


not far to seek. Englshmen could then soothe their
wounded pride and accept defeat with compacency
by rejecting that their best cutter had not entered
the international But the Thistle their fast
est cutter by long Odds and that she is defeated
they have to admit that the centreboad soop is superior
to the British cutter challenge again and try to build
faster cutter than the Thistle. With commendable
pluck the latter alternative has been chosen told
in THE TRIBUNE yesterday.
The announcement that Charles Sweet intended to
challenge for the and get cutter built for the
press purpose OF trying capture It, much talked
about at the Of the NewYork Yacht Club and else
where where yachtsmen wont TO cOngregate
Mr.. SWEET TALKS ABOUT HIS PLANS.
"The is all true" said Mr. Sweet, except in
particular. The cutter is to be designed by Mr. Watson
and not by Mr. Fyfe. On Friday after witnessing the
race between the Thistle and the Volunteer wrote
letter TO Mr. Bird the secretary OF the NewYor Yacht
Club telling him that IL all prelimnaries could be salts
factoriy arranged 1t my intention to challenge for
the cup"
"Then you believe that cutter still be built to go
to wndward faster than the Volunteer asked the re-
pt rter.
liam willing to risk something to ascertain whether it
can be done,' replied Mr. Sweet The Thistle
experiment. she departure from previous models
quite much the Puritan Now, as Mr.. Burgess
has Improved the Puritan until he has produced the
Volunteer. may Mr.. Watson design model which may
be corrcspondingly great improv cement on the
Thistle"
"will the cutter be Of the first second class ,"
Her size has not yet been determined on"
Do not the records this side show that second and
third class cutters do better with sloops Of their class
than do frstcass cutters with frst-class soopsl !"
THAT has been thus far but 1t remains to be
how the first class cutter may be improved"
"Will the new cutter be a beamy one !"
Probably; prefer good beam to a narrow one.'
"will she be entirely Watson boat or Joint prod.
cuti"
.Of ali the credit OF her design will belong to
Mr. Watson, but we shall discuss the model"
Through what club will you challenged"
al am a member Of the Royal Thames Yacht Club and
Of the Yacht Racing Association. II can get the
requisite permission shall challenge on behalf OF the
Royal Thames Yacht Club"
"where will the new yacht be built !"
"O1 the Clyde think they put boats together there
better than anywhere else, believe"
"Of what will she be constructed, steel or wood I"
THAT is point yet to be settled but she will probably
be OF steel"
when will she be built
Probably in time for the spring races on the other
sidc-
"Then her speed will be pretty well gauged there be-
fore she over here ="
"Yes. shall thereby get pretty good idea of what
the boat can do before the cup come off,"
"what Will you do with your cutter Claral"
=" She is for sale"
"wil Captain Barr sail the cutteri !"
Probably, though that has not yet been arranged"
MR. WATSON HOPES TO IMPROVE on THE THISTLE.
Mr. Watson was seen at the Fifth Avenue Hotel and
was congratulated the opportunity that was TO be
afforded him Of designing boat to capture the Cup.
What sort OF Will she be - asked the reporter
Practically nothing about the matter has yet been
settled | am prepared to design fveon cutter or
lo0ton cutter Just big cutter as may DC wanted
But what sort OF model she will have can't tell
because nothing Ia settled and wouldn't tell II could
and
design to get information but 4 wouldn't do for me 70
reveal what my designs will be before the boat is
launched"
Can you improve on the Thistle !"
81 think so" replied Mr. Watson with some assurance
how, for sho admit tell you or any one .,
DO You think cutter could be built 10 go to wind
ward well the Volunteer, and yet do as well rum
don't know will attempt 1t II have the commits
sion fully appreciate the value Of the centreboar in
windwarl work. aud the difficulty Of getting an adequate
substitute for IL In large cutter because you have to
limits to depth and can't therefore carry
the proportions followed In the smaller
cutters But one may nnd out way TO do II Just as sue
cessive Improvement the soop have been produced
Then YOU think third second-class cutter would
stand a better chance against soops OF similar class
than would a iirst-class cutter |"
Ny dear fellow" replied Mr. Watson, laughing, I
won't say am in for designing large cutters There
noncy I'm them. always advise people to go III
for large boats in preference for small ones > >o
he general opinion among members or the New-lo
Yacht Club that the cutter will be of the same
class those that have challenged IN recent years
cause" as one yachtsman SAID. inc seiecu3n s oi
second thirdclass cutter would be virtual admission
ccntreboar oop and under such circumstances though
III cup should bc lost the supremacy OF he
wueu IL producing the fastest boat, without
limitations regards size, would remain uhdis'urpeu
THE VOLUNTEER MAY RACE WITH A SMALLER BOAT
q" OF course" said Commodore Asten under the con-
ions OF the deed OF gift attached to the cup we cond
sart the Volunteer any rst-cass sloop against any
s,epnd or thrdtass cutter that might be sent over 10
capture the cup, and make the retaining OF inc cup
forcgone conclusion even after allowing the smaller
,luo tiunc all that
done simply because II would not be chivaIrous. We
should not fear any attempt to capture the cup with
a cutter that would class with the volunteer bue
there Il no denying that smaller cutter would
stand better chance The reason Is oDVious lou ca"
get more pro poronae depth In a small cutter than In
larger one II you give the big cutter keel enough TO
hold her up wndward work as well as the pig centre
board soop, she draws much water that she Is u-
anG psschine still whatever the size the cutter that
challenges for tho cup she would be met Dy cen.o
board sloop of the same class ana we sh" expect '"'
Nothing more was heard Yesterday about the report
that Mr. Muir. OF DumDaron. Scotland, INTENDED 70
challenge for the cup and get william Eyre, lr, now III
this country TO design cut cutter IUr Is Rr
he said that he had received message from Mr Muir
about it, and Is thought that the report may turn OUT
To be nnfOunded.
ANXIOUS TO SEE THE BIG RIVALS RACE AGAIN
Yachtsmen are exceedingly anxious to get up another
race between the Thistle and Volunteer or between te
Thistle and the big sloops in order that the Ihse
may show what she can do at All rounu saii"s'
espec,lly running and reaching compared with them
At ~nng the Thistle proved trne speedier than tho
Volunteer and many besides the owner and designer
believe that she would prove to be faster also at reaching
with anything like beam wind They would IKE 10
see whether the Thistle could gain enough at running
and reaching with Volunteer over two legs OF rla
pr ourse IN make ND for what she would lose In the
wipdwar leg Failing this they would much like to see
the Thistle measured against the Maynower Puritan ana
Atlantic over some such course, and the Larchmont
Yacht Club are willing to give 81 600 for such race
nounced his Intention doing more racing with the
Volunteer this season. and M Bel says tnat ne trod won
Wv 4. not clear but Is suggested that the reason lies
in the fact that the Thistle being Tor sale nnyng nay
by third encounter. and II she succeeded IN beating