Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1887-05-21
DEBT DISCUSSION.
NUMEROUS PHASES OF TKE QUESTION
IN TEH TWO HOUSES.
Sir Edward Writes an objeeting Letter to
Speaker stuart-Fulkerson's Scrip
Eill-New License Law, &C.

NoI pNuiShCo IN the UtSidtA OF Ntslcf-
day proposing substitute for the eighth
and tCnih section OF Article y. OF the Con-
siiiuiiou in relation tO The scttlemont of the
puthc d,At. The resolution when oiltred
was ORDERED 20 he printed and made the
special order for 10 4. NJ. Yesterday. Mr..
1Wyuan called for IL several times. and IL
Was as often pa'std by.
SUBSTITUTE PROPOSED.
Ms. ELca offered as q substitute for the
entire proposition hi, amendment, voted
down a icV days ago. 80 changed as TO give
The creditors until July /, 1850. In which
tine o. fund under the Rddlcbergcr bill.
Mr kWasr moved 10 amend Mr. ivy
mans resolution by giving me bOudh0lders
until ,rc III of January. 1880, in which TO
fund instead OF leaving tRc time Tor fund
iup without hmu. lie thsught this would
meet the views Of al and give the creditors
sufficient time.
Nj. Twyman said the amendment was
acceptable e. him. hut he feared il would
moi suit ihe fancy ~ some on the floor who
ieJ opposed the Rhea amendment a. SAVIOR
ing Of rcpudiahon. He had purposcly
prepared hts resolution so rs TO meet the
scrupulou> objections oi these.
Nr. EilSson >nd nc felt constrained 10
vow feAllNNt NIlf bIa'A ifthatl'l4t q NY VI
two SEQ, because H. smackcd too much OF
lopudmiiou--1nd q that be could not con-
sent. Nc was willing and anxious 10 do
ANYTHING that would make effective the
Eiddlclcrccr settlement. and for that rca-
sou f,lt inclined 10 support the joint rcsO-
buttons proposed by the senator from Mad
iSon. They were free from the tuni Of re-
ILdi'iion that attached "a the other. would
give thc people sn opportunity 10 vote on
The question, and would bc iU-t A. effective
i'm inducing the bOndhoidcr- tO settle as
the more objectionable amcndmcn, ~ the
SWaior from Washington.
Nr. KoinCr moved TO pmend his amend
nCnt hy extending he time o. January l,
lSY2. Dec amendment WIS adopted.
Irc sulstfulcot Mr.. Ruc1 was reported.
Mr. Loyen>tCm moved to strike ont luiv
], lNS9.' and insert "Janulry ], 1890.
AGol. cd.
EHEVrrED.
Mr. Gordon offered an amendment cX-
cmptug from the operation Of the amend.
mcht "slich bond, and other obligations oi
The Commonwealth a. were on the l0th
day of March. 1881. held by or for the bene.
40 ut auy Incorporated college or other in
,tiut on or seminary Of learning, or aclie-
iHy or rmanuI'-In0r school. within this STATE,
So long a> they may continue 10 be held by
O. ior 'ho rcutit Of N1mc.' Adopted.
Mr. NlDhhaW offered an amendment cX-
OWitiu- DE- bond, lcloucIug al thi, time
Goo s,y widow or descendant Of deceased
p.ru,s fD-id'-- 'n the state 81 Virginia.
~. desired 20 pu, himself on record Is in
favor ~ Protecting thee dependent and
d,i.i..''-- coos. although hc intended 10
vote co.. .i1>t tlc Cuiiie pr1Do,tion
Nir B'ack,i""' ''-e,,~a ihai the word
intent t'lcm>erlcd before " dcscendant,"
.uJ thi> Mr Wi,bhlm accepted.
NJ. lica'.u wanted lho word "infant"
SIiCh'u ou. Hc desired that all descend. |
su., of those VITO held The bond, should |
Do exempted. lIe wJ, opposed to coHiis- |
cstir tbe property oi those whose fathers |
Ldd tUc bonds uIior to the war. There were |
TIVE ladies lu Dis TOWN who would be left |
almost Pennies, 10y thi>, and hc presumed |
tl,rr were others equally %, deserving as |
tuo-, Who be- proposed to have protected.
Gould N0T VOTE FOR IT.
Nr. Meredith had voted for every thing |
tlat looked 20 the settlement OF the pu5lir |
dolt. hui Dee could not vote for this rc-olu-
ton. iic was originally % dcbt-payer. bui
bad used every effort tO enforce the settle
mont proposed Uudcr the Eidilebcrycr bill
however much be- WIS in favor bo,h OF ci.
ic,tirga settlement and of voting for the
of Ei, friends, hc could not
lot, for mi, measure, which bld been so
amended a> 10 contain an ot the salient OBJ
jc,iiouahIc feature of the EliCa amendment
voted down iew days ago.
Mr. Wickham' amendment wa. los.
Nj Ebea adNoci,cd tlc adoption oi his
substitute.
IGcr.>oluton offered hc Mr.. TWvman,
@, far a, 10 refer ID the public deDt, was
precisely the sane as the one formerly Of
i,rcd by him. u. aud was more Obiectiona.
hlc. because 10 proposes 70 entirely eimI-
I1,r ihe eighth Soc ion oi the constitution;
i..r. 10 add .n independent section entirely
laneiuc lhe mode Of managing the rcYe-
ruDS of the state.
Nir rwyman briefly advocated his reso-
luton. and opposed the substitute. lie
thought hi, amendment would effect set
imMt.
NR. WICEuAV's AMENDMENT.
Mr.. Wickhum rose 20 a personal priy-
,sc. and said that when the Chair rHled
.hai bis amendment WAS Jos; ho asked fIr a
recorded vote that the chair stated That
.hc call for % recorded yot; was not su>-
tanned. only four persons having risen 10
~Na~IHtIl II.f 't.Its lAN Ali' ~ Ait' ~ Att HaA
made q mistake in the count, q, be could
name >iN senators who stood.
The Chair Mr.. Massey stated most posi-
lively that when the vote was taken there
w,tc ouy four person, Standing, whereas
lYc Wor, required 90 sustain the call.
Ou motion % Nj. Hurt, the vote was re-
considered. and. being again put, the
amendment Wa, rejected by the recorded
,otc oi 20 GO O..
EoINIE EEC0NsrDEEs.
ST. E0.ucr arose 10 personal PRIVILEGE, |
md said thai when hc moved 10 amend
De resolution he h4d not seen the printed
.cuy, and found upon examination that he
Nas mistaken a~ to its contents. He au-
bounced him.clt opposed 10 the section
ihOut tlXatlon. and moved % reconsider |
BE vote 10y which hi, amendment limiting
DE time for funding was adopted. The
o'c wa. rccOu,iGtI.d and the amendm mt |
rejected.
TUE TAXATION feature.
Nj. Lo,cu,tcin moved 90 strike out sec.
ION - proposed 10 the Constitution. lie
,,a> opposed TO interfering with the mode
+ taxation. 90, hc thought this sufficiently
provided for.
blr. Twymau opposed the amendm mt,
md Nj. LONcnstein withdrew il.
SINKING FUND.
Nr. Hurt otorcd an amendment providing |
Dat "ths General Assembly shall provide |
ly avs sinking fund to be applied solely
% the payment aud oXtinguiShment Of the
principal Of the state debt as provided for
u this section, which sinking fund shall be
ontinued until the eNtinguishment of |
uch debt; and every law hereafter enacted
y the General Assembly creating debt
J. authorizing q loan shall provide a sink
lg fund i0g the payment Of the same"
'gI~-G q to.
KILLING TINE.
Mr.. Mccormick said it vas quite yident
hat neither the resolution nor the ,ubstl
ute would pass, therefore he hoped 1t
would be summarily disposed OF and allow
be- senate 10 proceed with the many im-
ortant measufcs on the calendar.
TiiE VOTE.
several minor amendments were pro-
Osed snd voted down, and Slr. Hurt called
be- previous question. The substitute was
otcd down, and the vote on the IWymtn
.ueudmcnt resulted a. follows:
AYEs.-Messrs. COltraue. Dalton, Eilyson.
UT KO.ner. LOyenstein. Read, Stubs, Thur
IAN. Trout, Twyman, and Warwick-i2.
NOEg.- Mossrs. Berry, BlRckstOEe, Edmunds,
oraOn HoatOn. Hodges Jones, heezeu, Nc d
ormlck. Norton, khea, staples. NicAhain, ana :
iiliams-l
APrEAL TO TIE PEOPLE.
Mr. Gordon called up the preamble and