New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-03-04
PLAIN TRUTH FROM Mr.. HOAR
Mr.. CARLISLE SHARPLY ARRA1GNED.

Mr.. CARLISLE SHARPLY ARRAI6NED'
METHODS OF THE HOUSE LEADERS DENOUNCED AS
UNJUST AND EVOLUTIONARY.
fsY TELEGRAPH rKIBuSal
WASHINGTON, March 3.-Tbe last day but one OF
the XLIXth Congress marked in the Senate ps
one of the spcest debates which has occurred in this
otherwise rather tedious and unnteresting session.
Senator Hoar took occasion to crticse in strong but
perfectly parliamentary language tho action OF the
House junta composed of four or five men VINO, py
holding back appropriation bills succerd every year In
tnrottng useful and necessary legislation and prac
tcally dictate to Congress what shall and what sna
be done. In the early DAYS OF tho Governmeht,
said, such conduct would never have been toe a 49,
Il would have led to revolution and It woula nave
swept tho men who attempted snoh h'gh.hanneI pr
ceedpgs ont OF existence Mr. Hoar criticized Sharply
Speaker Carlisle tor his unheardot decision NJ
made to tho effect that he would not recogniz re- mr:
Randall tor the purpose of taking rev enue o Io
consideration except such bill was first suDhtIeo "
Democratic CAUCUS Mr.. Harris, who usually nas
something TO say when 1t becomes necessary to STRAIN
parliamentary rules Tor bringing truths homo 10 peope
who do not like TO listen to nem attempted 10 s.e
PEELED to retire. Msssrs Beck and Black burn OF
course found themselves in honor bound to come 70
the rescue OF their friend but their defence was %
one AMI they did venture to deny single ASSERTION
made BY Senator Hoar. Mr. Blackburn distinguishes
himself BY o coarse. almost brutal, use OF language ~
intent, though not Ia effect rs S,
thing that had bern heard the floor OF the senate
for long time. The debate sprung ont OF inc oon,e
ence report on the Sundry Civil bill Mr. Allison mac
shown how CONCESSION after concession hod pec"
wrung from the Senate c0nferees. . . ,
MIR. Hoar said that he desired TO caii tho ,
OF the Senate to what seemed him very grave evI
ono that threatened IN substance rev olu.'ohaiy
change la the methods OF the Govern
ment What he asked the effect OF the holding
back OF appropriation bills until the last seven OF
or fifteen dave the session Of Congress Inc resui.
was that unless the House and the Senate DOM SUI
mltted to the dctation OF three OF four men VINO
happened to be members OF the Comdttee on App,SU
prations in the House OF Representatives. on inc
majority side, the great appropriation bills isli anu AZ
extra session became necessary The speaker comm
ued after short colIoquy with Senator DecA' 40 '
lows; . a., At,
body has passed bill after bill, with supstant1I i
unurrd by able men the othe side OF this chamber
and having the Endorsement OF their great
and yet because three or four persons clothed I'm
the authority OF the House OF Representatives chose
TO orpose those bills they could not get COT sderaton
in that body although there is no manner oil douot
that nnetentns OF the mem bers OF the House wouu 20
in their favor If they brought up. That Ia con-
ditlon OF things which IN the time OF our fathers wouiu
have caused a revolution read the other nay IN the
newspapers letter from gentleman VINO was saa 70
be Speaker OF the House of Representatives, will mol
under AXE TO say whether he holds ,at Once o,
notl 1t was addressed to q gentleman who was said
to hold the oflioo OF chairman O. the Committee on
Appropriations L the House of Representatives and TO
two Their gentlemen OF wide National reputation mold
ing high po ,tions IN the councils OF the Demo'ra'o
and complane that they had not been recognized oy
him Tor the purpose OF moving measure Tor the rev.
sion of the taria measure which the American people
desire and which u majority OF the members oil mat
body also desired Aud the Speaker repned, stating
as his refusing to recognize Oh the moor OF
the body over winch he presided gentleman t. make
that notion that he did not approve OF the measure
which that gentleman propo>ed 10 move anu 'ha''
therefore he would recognize him tor that pur-
pose But ne said that these gentlemen would carry
their proposed revision OF the tariff into Democratic
caucus, aud would submit to what should turn OUT W
be the views that caucus on the SUBJECT whethei
thov were the OF the House OF Representatives
or not he then IN his discretion would permit that
motion TO be made. Nov say tnat up to any tiie
within the last twenty years such an attemIteu
usurpation OF power would have created stoi IN IN
this country that would have either driven the usurper
out OF his would have occssioned revolution
n the Government itself Here Il claim advanced IN
the face OF the American people. alike overthrowing
the constitutional power of the Senate and the consti
tutionai power vi the House, aud degrading every
single member OF that great assembly. the House OF
Representatives which ought 10 be tae most dignhed
legislative body on the tace OF the earth MI fres
dent there has not como before the American people
since the end OF the question Tor determine
ton that involves such grave constitutional results
and on which their interests 40 much depend a. the
question whether this usurpaiion OF power shall he
pernIitted TO 90 Henry Clay was supposed 10 have
a pretty strong will Mr. Clay would no more have
dared such authority when he was Speaker
OF the House OF Representatives than he would have
ventured to cross the Niagara RIVER twenty iooS "'
Mr. Sanlsbury-I rise to question OF order Is it In
order Tor member OF the Senate 10 artaign the House
ot R.nrcsentaiiye, or any member of tho House OF
Representatives in political speech III the senate'
Mr. Hoar-I have kept within the rules pretty care
fully -, ~, ,,
stands that the language OF the Senator IRON Mass
chusetts has been strictly within the rules prescribed
Mr.. noar-Mr Blaine, under whom many OF us
served in another place generally supposed to nave
a pretty strong will and pretty srong desire 10 nave
accomplished in the administration oil the country Tue
thing. which he thinks ought 10 be done served III
the House OF Representatives. .ith that aceohPsneu
gentleman for eight years. for six OF which be was
Speaker and the humblcst Democrat when We had u
majority of three.iourhs iourf In that body)
was permitted TO make his motion 10 suspend The rules
every Monday and every day Within the last SIX dHys
of adjournment. They used TO put us OF the fccotu
With all sorts OF cJntriyances aud IN all manner OF
WAYS by calling the and nays on questions which
they thought Republicans would not IKE TO co"'il
themselves IL il true that occasionally when the
busIness pressed during the last twenty Tour OF ory
eight hours OF the session, Nj. Speaker Diane Wouu
exercise hi. selection OF persons To be recognizes ~
accordance with what he beloved TO be the VIII ana
desire and convenience OF the majority OF the iousc
And that was all. But whoever heard oi Mr. Blame
member desired 10 tee recognized To move Inc adop-
ton of q measure that would pass unanimously or
unanimously If proposed, iniormni 'hat msmper
thar the presiding officer rad determined that was
not exprdient TO have any mrasuro OF That knd pro-
posed during that session OF Congressi Mt. fres-
dent this Ia question which goes clear down 10 tue
al rocks which constitutional struc
tIre il erected. would rather have the Emperor OF
Kursia King Bomba to rule over me- than to have.
under tho pretcnce of constitutional form the right
denied my Representatives TO utter the VIII oil the
American people when constitutonay eipressed BY
tho voice OF ~ majority IN each branch. First the
assertion IL made in the service OF party. Next II Is
made In the service Of some particular clique or iacon
or section OF that party. But II Is very delightful
and fascinating power and very soon II comes 10 be
used in the service OF tho personal within, or the per
sonal umb ton or the personal authority of two or
three encmeu In whom the power permitted TO be
placed Now il has seemed best to n majority of the
Senate to suOmt to having law which was passed by
the Senate almost unanimously and which was never
submitted to the other House ut ALL eviscerated and
eInascuated by the process which has been here de-
scrbed We have not thought IL desirable, in the state
of public feeling IN the condition OF public business In
the pre-, ang sentiment OF the American people TO
insist upon extra session OF Congress- but Wish or
one to give notice that In my Judgment this IS the lat
time that that usurDation will be submitted to-
Mr. Beck-I was called out OF the chamber for
while and was only in time to hear what seems to me
most remarkable TRADE against the Speaker OF the
House of RepTescn tatves. That gentleman needs 40
d.tencs At my hands. | have only this to say that