New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-08-13
DISCUSSING Rents IN IRELAND.
HE LAND BILL AS AMENDED BY THE LORDS BEFORE

THE HOUSE OF COMMONS
LONDON Aug 12-Mr Pdrncll, on a motion to con-
sder the House OF Lords amendments to the Land bill,
declared that the alteration providing that rents be re-
drced in ratio with the fal in prices was vital change
II would diminish by half the value of the bill to
tenants. II deprived the commission OF discretion IN
The reduction rents. tying them down to hari-and-
fast line 1t was deceptive also. II prices had fallen 10
Der cent reduction of 10 per cent on some holdings
would be too little, while on Others it would be too
much As the bill stood il would be no loss to the
land question ireland if the measure were post
poned until another session. IParneilite cheersl
Mr. Bafour Chief Secretary for ireland held that the
amendment In no wise altered the substance Of the bill
IT only explained what in the opinion OF the Govern
nent would he the rational operation of the clause
They proposed hand to three gentlemen in Dub
lin work of settling rents in Ireland 1t was not
surprising that those gentlemen shrank from respons
bty 50 prOdigious and unexampleI The Head Com
missioner therefore, asked the Government for more
precise guidance. The Government was unable TO
disregard the request that had been introduced for an
explanation of the clause the effect OF which would be
20 substitute a produce rent for money rent Ii ala
asay with the grievance that the Judicial rents were
fixed when the prices Of produce were higher than now
Regarding postponem9nt of the bill, the Speaker
asked if sr Parne prepared TO tell the Irish people
that they must lose all the advantage Of stay OF
eyicons distribution of the payment Of arrear" over
protracted period and further revision OF rents as
given under the bill. He lNr Balfour would not vent
ure 10 measure the responsibility or members who'
while claiming to represent the tenants, deprived them
Of these advantages, but If the tenants really understood
what was being done by their members 1t would 90 far
toward destroying Mr.. Parnelrs influence. [" Hear,
hear."l
sir william Vernon Harcourt advised the Government
to withdraw the amendment, the ground that 1t
v.tlated the whole substance OF the bli' -, a., -
Mr. Chamberlain reminded the House that his sug-
that the courts be authorized to make COMPOST
all the debts Ot the tenants vas Refused ny thc
Irsh members. He going TO ireland ana he meant
tell the people that the sole responsibility Tor reis
ing them an enormous boon-the settlement OF arrears
and other embarras Inents rested upon the very men
who pIOiessed to represent them. Hear hear!'I JIG
did approve the amendment TO the BILL because no
thought would better the discretion of the court II
the amendment not withdrawn many supporters or
the ,sll would vote against II. {" Hear, hearI"l
Mr. Dillon said that Chamberlain had wisely
selected Belfast tie place for a visit. lie woud
pecure there an enthusiastic audience or landlords
agents and Orangemon. But If he wanted To know the
opinion OF ireland let him look elsewhere. IL was OF
Vital importance that the bill should not be dclusion
and a snare such the amendment in question would
make N.
Mr.. Morley advised the Government, even at the
eleventh hour, and give further time ior the
consideration of tho amendment
Mr. Harrington suggested p0stpOnemeDt OF the rent
clause until Monday. the House proceeding in the mean
time to the discussion OF the other amendments
W. H. Smith. on behalf OF the Government, accepted
the proposition