New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-06-14
DEBATE ON THE COERCION BILL.
ATTENDING THE CLAUSE RELATING To TIE PRO-
CLAIMING OF DISTRICTS

AMENDING THE CLAUSE RELATING To TIE PRO-
CLAIMING OF DISTRICTS
Loxnox. June l3-The House of Commons this
evening resumed debate Oh the Coercion Dill, taxing
mn the fifth clause which deals with the proclaiInng
Df districts Henry Fowler 1Liberal) proposed as an
amendment that pr proeamations be made by order OF
the Prlyy Council instead of by the Viceroy. lie
urged that change Of such importance as the pro-
claiming of q district should be made by the in2erim
instead of ty the Irish executive.
Mr. Balfour Chief Secretary for Ireland, declined 10
accent the amendment He reminded the House that
the Government collectively we're responsible Tor
every ac. of the Irish executive.
Messrs Healy. Mcneil, Clancy and Dillon.
Nationalists successively supported the amendment
Mr.. Gladstone suggested that the members should
not snend any moro of the shOt time at their
m,nd in futile discussion. Ii would be better, he
said. to employ the remaining time in discussing
weightier points.
Mr. Smith said be was anxious to allow sufficient
hnc for the discussion of substantial questions and
be hoped the Opposition would assist the uoNe-hheh'
IN this direction.
Mr Fowler offered TO withdraw his amendment
H., Dillon protested. lie declined to take advice
from the Government as to What amendments should
De discussed in the miserable period left TO the Far
,elites TO contest the measure.
Mr. Morley said he sure Mr. Gladstone had not
meant to suggest that the Opposition assist in limiting
he debate in accordance with the Governments
dea,. The opinions Of the Parnellites upon the
relative Importance Of amendments deserved more
attention than the opinions of the English members.
The amendment was put 10 division ana was re-
ected-23o to 167
Mr. Dolerty moved an amendment that proclama-
aons lie issued only the report Of judge Of the
High Court after local inquiry.
Sir. Holmss. the Irish Attorney General, opposed
The amendment on the ground that it was not ad-
risable to remove any responsibility from the
executive local inquiry he said, would be value-
he iudpn would have tax @
Bvdence OH oath.
Mr.. Clancy said that the Government would have
been mote candid if they had given the reason for
their opposition TO the amendment their desre 10
retain for political purposes the power Of proclaming
a district.
Tue amendment was rejected by a vote of POP to
1876
Mr.. Shaw-Lefevre moved an amendment limiting
the authority of the VcerOy in procaimng districts
where it might be necessary for the prevention of
crime and outrage lie appealed TO the Government
TO assent to the alteration which he said would bring
the clause IN accord with the ac of 1882.
Sir r. E. Webster. Attorney. General, said that it
was refreshing 10 hear Mr.. Shaw -Lefevre defending
the act Of 1882 The Government, he added could
accept the prop ,sal The object of The bill being
to punish the authors well as to prevent the
mission of crime. the amendment would hamper the
operation of the mca ure.
Mr.. Morle, said he had never heard more ludicrous
reason given for the omission of important ;imita
ton IL showed that the real object Of the bill was
not the prevention of crime, but the suppression of
political combinations. Cheers.
Mr. Bradiaugh suggested that 10 meet tho views OF
the Government the words "and punishment" be
aided TO the amendment after the We rd prevention"
Mr. Baliour announced that the Government ac
repted the amendment with Mr.. Bradlaughs mcdifca-
ton. lCheers.
An amendment providing that a procl clamation
should endure six modths, and another providing that
weeks notice be given, rejected. The Govern
ment accepted an amendment offered by Mr.. Fowler
making procamations subject TO the veto of either
House OF Parliament. After several other amend
ments had been rejected Attorney General Holmes
moved to amenG the clause by making summary iuris
aicton aud change OF apply TO crimes commit
tec before the issue OF proclamation, II such crimes
be committed after the passing OF the act.
Mr.. Healy SAID he considered the proposal n breach
Of feith, made in order 10 occupy the little time that
was lett tor discussion
The amendment carried by a vote OF 227 to 1S
In the House OF Lords to-day the consideration OF
the Irish Land bill in committee hnshed and the
sefort stage was set Tor July l.