New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-05-08

malice and that even II what said was correctly
printed, tho public mind being already made up, "
would not be believed So that In any event. .siA'Hs
would do no good and it might do me harm. -,
"whatevcr you will say will be read VIII "iu''
spread interest"
sit will be much better received now. anyway
than it would have been year ago. Inc Puo .ho
wanted blood. Ths newspapers had 30 eAc''eu M ruo
peopl" that they bound TO have vetiin' Inv
DisriotAttorney was bound to give them victim or
forfeit his own head. Well, they have hal ticum-
three OF them-aud they ready to consiuci 'o
facts IN the Before, 1t was BLOOD fac's OF No
facts. Now, they gradually becoming ashaineu VI
their haste. They are beginning to think "ne'nei
! the testimony OF snch ours as Fullgraf and Duhy
propped up by the Katie Metz business is the Au u
| thing upon which to make felons OF men WIN n"'0
borne previous good character MI.
@Are you able to furnish theory OF your nignt
| from New-York and your remaining here whon Is
consistent with your innocence OF the charges mauo
in Fullgraf's and Duay's stories
"Nothing is easier When lett New-fork ior
Lakewood had no idea of remaining out OF the Guy;
/ was very sick For several years had iiau
trightful attacks of the govt. The pain was so IN
tense at times that was quite beside myseii' NY
physician, DR.. Church. of No. 276 Seventh-st.' hao
warned times that did not give up ous
ness and politics and 90 away he would NOT ansmo'
| for my lie. On New Years Eve, IN 1859, mao
| fearful attack. Medicine had ceased to DO me any
| good whatever. Only doses OF morphine avalied mo
anything, and they merely deadened Immediate pains
| Dr. Church called In two OF the most eminent PpyTi-
clans in America and they urged him to get me away.
saying that must have rest Just about this time Inc
| Senate Investigating Committee began to hold its
meetings and the was soon full OF rumors ABOUT
my alleged connection with the Broadway andir'
My bell was rung. ii seemed to me, thousand times
day. Reporters detectives politicians, everybody
with one accord began to bother me. Being already
very sick u an, could not stand that excitement.
1t aggravated my disease to such extent that Dr.
Church insisted on my going Immediately to Lake
| wood"
"And you wentl"
@Yes went When got there found as might
have supposed. that my leaving the city was inter-
preted Digit and proof conclusive OF nv quit
/ found, too, that the counsel tor the committee
| were endeavoriug to extradite me. The physical
| pain was suffering the inhaned condition OF the
public mind, which was excited that 1t could not
even listen to any exps nation and other crcum
stance led to to Montreal, where knew they
| Gould not get at me-"
"What 90 you mean by one other circumstance !"
at is O circumstance which has since developed. l
mean the Thompson Sc uire- Flynn letter. | WAS ter
riby afraid the committee would get to that had
believe that an mixing OF it had beeu given
to @ certain member of the committee, and thought
they were laying for De Lacy and me before sprng-
| ing IL on know of reason now for changing
my opinion. believe that certain member OF that
committee knew that such letter was in existence.
| He may have had private oI not bringing 1t
forward. He may have been advised that such line
| of investigation was not within the scope OF the
committees powers. but all the same was dreadful,
afraid of being questioned about that letter. Vas
particularly afraid OF De Lacys being questioned
about it, he had aged one phase OF the deal and
/ knew it would be awtrl blow to US If II were
brought out then. This matter and the tact. which
could not tan to see. that in returning TO Newfork
should Simply be throwing mvself against public
| opinion, decided me TO remain here"
Did the same considerations prevail in DE Lacy's
| easel
"With regard to De Lacy you may say that &C
| cept the entire responsibility of his course. was
quite aware that it placed Mr.. Newcombe. who had
promised the District ttoruey to have him present in
New-York at q certain time, in peculiar position,
but couldn't help that DE Lacy had his tickets all
bought and his sleeping berth engaged for his return
to New-York when | interierei told him he was
a very foolish man to 60 back to New-forK az that
time that he simply walking olindfoded INTO the
lannon's mouth accept the same responsibility IN
the cAsos of Dempsey and Mooney. They put them
selves in my hands and told them to stay
ais the story that at meeting Of the thirteen
Aldermen IN McLoughlin's house you were chosen
stake keeper "
9The Fulgrah Duffy story is lie from beginning to
end, made out OF the whole cloth to bear out the
story Dyrnes told as the Confession OF Jaehne. just
look at it Is there a sensible man In New-York who
can bring himself 10 believe that sbrewd long headed
fellows like Jaehne, De Lacy and McQuade. to say
nothing OF cautious conservative men like Neil and
would
cattle as Duffy Surprising that they were all paid
price, it would never have been done that way. And
the idea that would have made myself go between
In such q Wholesale purchase OF men. several OF
whom had never spoken to In my life. 10 simply
preposteroua Leaving the mOraltv OF tho case out
OF the question. | am such stupid tool that. II
had been capable of idiocy never wond have
reached the position held in this County Democracy"
aAnd you deny ever having handled penny OF
| Sharps moIevp
81 do just that-never solitary copper. don't
| believe single County Democrat IN the Board
cent l know De Lacy did Why under heaven
should Sharp have wasted 81 30. 900 on VT
| votes were already his should have considered it
an act OF treason to me for any man In our Organza
ton to have voted against the Broadway Franchise.
| Now | have not said word about any higher
motive in these matters than selfish will not
stop to say that favored Sharp because his the
only company that could take passenger past Four
teenths st.. because thought taat after man had
worked thirty to get road he ought not to
be cheated out of his reward by other companies
which could not give half goo / service to the
public. Probably the public would smile at my
stating such grounds as my motives Tor supporting
sharp But will confess that had another motive,
too. I expected to secure certain railroad interests
through Sharp's aid in he got the Broadway
franchise. / helped him because wanted him to
help me. would have given him the votes OF our
men in the Board without it costing him penny and
| he knew It, and if he paid them any money, be was
fool 1 mover heard that Sharp a tool that no
| threw thousand dollar bills into the fire.
| Are you doing any business. Mr.. Keenan,
| No and shouldn't be doing any even If lived in
New-York. For several years have had my affairs
In such shape that Was making an income OF from
925 900 to $3.50, 900 without my direct attention to
business ] am making that income ahd am living
here more chesply than ii lived Ia New-York. do
nv business with the Eleventh Ward Bank in New
| YORK and with the Bank OF Montreal in this city,"
| DO you intend ever to come back to New York y
| q I do a nit
people when l get back there too The people OF
New-York should not think too hard of me- tor they
may have to take it all back They should create
idols OF the who are trying TO scramble into high
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