The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-06-28

Commons was carefully preserved in the bill.
and any Ministry could prevent its operation.
Iho proposed clause was rejected.
Mr. Morley moved that the duration OF the
act be limited to three years. This was the first
time, he said that any government had the
shameful courage to propose perpetual coercion.
In any exceptional mutilation of civil rights,
particularly in so grave and serious q mutiation
rs the present bill contemplated. the govern
ment ought to be compelled, from time to time,
at tolerably short intervals. to examine whether
circumstances still justified the existence of such
exceptional legislation This WAS the first gov
ernment that had cast to the winds old-fash-
Toned regard for liberty of the subject and the
doctrine that exceptional legislation should not
last one day longer than circumstances de-
manded. The bill turned into offenses acts not
now considered offenses. He quoted the returns
of agrarian crime, and urged that the figures
showed there was the smallest possible neces-
sity for the bill.
Sir R. E. Webster Attorney general opposed
Mr. Morley's motion. He said that although it
was true that previous bills were of restricted
duration, no previous measure contained the
same safeguards and the same power OF paria-
mentary revision as were embraced in the pres
ent bill. There had been working in Ireland
forces closely connected with murder of the
worst character. These forces had been sup
ported. not by the internal resources of Ireland,
but by large contributions OF money from auoth-
er country. The government must retain the
power OF judging when these forces are at work
Mr. Gladstone urged that the special character
of the bill was reason for limiting its duration
Its enactment as a permanent measure would
alienation and estrangement from law wherein
lay the fundamental evil of Ireland's social con-
dition. list of preeedents. unusually LONG and
authoritative justified opposition to bills of gem
eral character which placed legislative power in
the hands of the executive. The invariabe rule
had been TO limit the duration of such laws
The present bill created new crimes and the
government was handing over the peoples rights
to be dealt with silently and secretly at the dis
cretion OF the Lord d-lieutenaut of Ireland
Mr.. Balfour said the precedents showed that
fnY Itp yUo Fail do
manded the adoption of permanent measures.
Sir Wilfred Lawson, Radical. in supporting
the amendment. said it was an honor to America
10 send money to those fighting for the freedom
of Ireland.
Mr. Redmond also spoke IN support of the
amsndment The amendment was rejected-180
to 119.
Mr.. Chance. Nationalist, moved that new
clause be added, providing that the proceedings
in certain criminal trials be reported by short
hand writers.
Mr.. Holiness Attorney general for Ireland. op
posed the motion, which was rejected-196 to
1885,
In the debate to- night Mr.. Chance moved sew
eral new clauses to the crimes bill, dealing with
legal procedure. all of which were rejected by
large majorities.
The Daily News says that the waste of time
on some of Mr.. Chances proposals was unreason-
able. while other of his proposals might be
fully debated in the form of a separate bill,
which, however, the government could not be
expected to accept
The government has decided to close the re-
port stage of the crimes bill on Thursday and to
ask the House to proceed with the bill daily un-
Til it passes the third reading The land bill
will come up in the House Of Commons on
Monday.