Fort Worth daily gazette. (Fort Worth, Tex.) 1882-1891, 1887-07-04
CHAT WITH DIR. MGLYNN.
He Denies Some Things He is Charged
With Having Said-Newspsper Mis-
representations Corrected
4 Review of dis Relations with The Church.
His Position Compared to that OF
Catholics In Italy.
New York Tribune

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presumptuoIs IN the extreme, but evil
dence OF the grossest treechery to all that
( l hold most dear-the sacraments of the
Catholic Church"
/ The Rev. DR.. Edward McGlynn arrived
| from Buffalo at 9: $50 yesterday morning.
/ Half an hour later he received Tribune
reporter in his parlor at the fremont, 10
whom ne denied, in the words quoted
above, the truth Of dispatch telegraphed
from Buffalo and published here Fri
day morning. DR.. MCGIynn related some
amusing experiences that he had had with
| Buffalo reporters, and said that after ne
/ mad almost spelled the words used in 6
statement given one of them, he thought
! it was g shame that he should have been
so utterly misunderstood ard misquOted.
| The great ecclesiastical labor agitstOr
came here upon the invitation of the
/ Knights of LABOR, under the auspices Of
which his address last night st Central
Music Hall YVES given. He was met 81
the train by W. II. Van Ornum, president
of the Land and Labor Club No. l, and
Messrs. Rowan and Turnbuu, represent
! ing district assemblies of Knights of
Labor, and by them escorted 70 his hotel.
pearsnce is striking ana favorable from
the first, He is nearly or quite six feet
in height, with frame little too broad
and generously provided with flesh to be
in good proportion, and massive features
whose expression is always enc of
strength OF purpose combined with great
intelligence, and sometimes it reflects s
gleamS of humor that is as irresist-
ibFe Ias some of the Doctors logic An
ordinary frock coat of black, with vest
and trousers to match, g rundown collar,
black cravat and heavy shoes clothed the
celebrated Catholic as he sat in a large
armchair and convers6d with Tribune
reporter yesterday. In converse
ton DR.. MCGlynn speaks very fuently,
in g pleasant, Well-mOdulated voice,
using always the most correct language.
In this respect he is fastidious and spoke
with genuine regret of having been re-
ported as using the vulgar expression,
"get their bellies full, ;" in the course Of g
speech wherein ne said that the oppo-
nents of MS land doctrine would eventu-
ally get enough Of opposition. Though
the hair is worn thin on the top of mis-
head it hangs in heavy, rich, brown pro-
fusion about the sides and back of his
head. He looks TO be barely fifty years
of age.
Beyond the denial that he desired to be
Classed with Martin Luther as O religious
refOTmer and the presentation Of some de
tails regarding the labor movement, of
which Henry George and himself are the
leaders, Dr.. McGlynn had but little 20
say that is not already familiar TO readers
Of the Tribune and contained in his lee
ture entitled "The Cross Of the New
Crusade"
Ell would like you TO say" said the
doctor, "that while there is price at
tached to admission to my lectures the
receipts dc. not 90 into my pockets, nor
into those Of Henry George. have al
ways lived from hand to mouth and was
slightly in debt when deprived of my
pastOrate. As you know, purse was
raised by members of my congreg cation I
and their friends, and this furnishes me
with the means of living and travelling |
shout to ill lecture engagements. 1 pay .
my own railroad fare, and also my own /
hotel expenses, except when some com |
mittee gets in ahead Of me. | can 90 on .
in this way for a couple CT years prob .
ably, and when the time comes that 1 .
must labor for my bread assure you that
that bread will not be purchased with
money gained in the propegating of my
land and labor doctrines"
HIS RELATIONS TO THE CHURCH.
On the question of the eXCOmmuni-
cation anticipated for him DR.. McGlynn
expressed himself as passive. According
to the current statement regarding the
matter, his forty days of grace would
expire July l. His accommodation
from the Catholic church then or ct any
other time did not imply that he was rot
Z good Catholic. He was, he maintained,
in entire harmony with Catholic theology,
IN which he believed ne was well yersed.
The religion of the Catholic church was
his, and always would be, and its saCra-
ments would always be dear to him,
though, through operations Of the eCcle-
;iastiCal machine, he might be deprived of
in them. In short, he was
n mind and soul in entire harmony with
he Catholic religion. Referring again to
he prospect Of mis- accommodation DR..
hcGlynn said that if he Obeyed the CON-
hands of bis superiOrs in the church
against the dictates of bis own conscience,
hen he would merit accommodation.
lie would rather be sn accommodated ,
Catholic with clear conscience and q
aim hope of salvation than to sacrifice
lis conscience upon the perhaps mis-
AIKEN demands of those vested with su- s
hority. He had refused 10 go to Rome
or the reason that he knew that the OBJ T
ect in calling him thither was not to az
ord him dignifed hearing but TO CEN
ure and humiliate him. His conscience
vas clear, and though accommodated {
rom participation in the sacrsments of I
he church he would live good Cath
lie and die in the full hope l
f meeting the reward which
hat religion holds out to It's consistent '
blowers. There was nothing in the
catholic creed which implied that the adj
of the church government
we're necessarily infsllible. Truths dis 5
overed by Calico and Copernicus had
een denounced as heresIes Oy them. {
low was he Or. McGlynn) to be as :
ured that because his doctrine regarding
and and labor was not shared by the =
'cpe it was therefore necessarily false? :
t was admitted by the Catholic creed
hat it was possible tor the Pope as
rivate individual, as doctor of divinity,
3 a teacher in the pulpit, as writer on
heOlogy, to say things not only false and C
polish, but absolutely hereJical. One y
'ope had heartily condemned the policy /
+ his predecessor, why then should not
be clergy and laymen be permitted to