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question has been settled already; T. Is res
ddjudicntd. The very fact that Mr.. Poliard's
name Is on the Bishops roll OF .clergynen
constitutes him member Of this Conven-
! tion."
| DIR. Porter: "I appeal to the brethren to
shorten their speeches and let us come to
vote"
| Mr.. Shand, of Union, moved that the de-
bate be closed and vote taken.
Mr.. Edward McCrady, ST.: Before the vote
Is taken just let me say few words. The
somebody in we don't want"
The Bishop: "The clergymen think you
want to put some one out who is already IN
Mr. McCrady: "Well that's the difference
between US. The constitution us it now stands
is In our favor, for when it. was framed the
term clergyman meant white man. and 1t
can't mean black man now"
The Rev. Mr.. Mccullough: "1f you vote to
take the name of this man from the list you
will be striking at the rights of the clerical
order"
Mr.. Benet here interposed q point OF order,
which resulted in q vote OH the motion to d.
vide the question which resulted as follows !:
Clercal-Yeas 5, nays 81.
Laymen-Yeas 10, nays 0, divided 8.
So the motion to divide the question not
having received the majority Of both orders,
was declared lost.
The question now required on the original
Seabrook motion to accept the Bishops roll
and, a vote by orders being demanded, result
ed as follows:
SlcrlCQl-- cuS ~. nays
| Laymen.-Yeas Q, nays Is, divided 8.
So this motion was also lost, and for a mo-
ment there was pause rs If the debatants
were anxious for truce. The pause was
broken by the Bishop, however, who arose
and said: "a majority OF the two orders hav-
Ing failed to concur the motion is lost. The
Chair Is happy, to state. however, that the
Convention Is duly organized and Is ready
for any business that may come before It,"
This announcement for a moment seemed
to staggcr the laymen, and a clerical delegate
had already arisen and obtained the floor
and was about to make motion, when MIR.
Jervey arose and fired this shot before the
clerical delegate could finish his motion: 81
desire to stute," said he, that the Parish OF
| Chair"
The Bishop, Quickly and decIsIvely,): "The
Chair has made no decision. 1t has only
Is duly organized. If any appeal Is made, 1t
must be an appeal from the constitution and
canons, not from the Bishop, for he has made
no decision"
Mr. Jervey: "a delegate arose to make a
motion. say he Is out Of order. He says he
IS in order. Is not that q decision ?"
The Bishop: "Under the constitution and
canons say he Is in order.'
Mr.. Jervey: swell, 1 appeal from that rul-
At this time dozen or more delegates were
on their feet with points Of order, motions,
&c. One delegate wanted to know how the
motion proposed by the clerical delegate could
be out OF order when he had not made IT..
Mr. Jervey replied that his point Of order
matter what motion he made.
DR.. Porter: "Well. if he can't make mo-
tion how can you make point of order?"
motion, and the Rev. Mr.. Joyner, who had
first obtained the floor, said that the motion
he intended to propose was that portion OF
the Bishops address be referred to q special
committee, TO report to the Convention ut q
Mr. Jervey: ~ make the point of order that
the gentleman's motion is out Of order"
! The Bishop: "On what grounds"
| Mr. Jersey: "On the grounds that the Con-
vention is not organized"
The Bishop: "If the Convention is not or.
ganized how can the appeal be considered p,
turn In which the question Of organization OF
parliamentary, deliberative and representa-
tive bodies was discussed freely and at great
length Finally, about hatpast 2 o'clock,
when the Bishop was about to put the ques-
tion on the appeal from the decision OF the
Chair, Col. Z. NJ RucI1er moved an adjourn.
ment until 6 p. NJ, and the delegates by this
motion was adopted and an adjournment had.
A Wholesale Secession.
At o'clock the delegates were all in their
dies being out in full force. The "bone OF con-
tention," that had almost been lost sight Of In
the parliamentary discussion which had
taken place during the morning session, was
also in his pew. It had been thought that the
recess would have afforded time and opportu-
nifty for a compromise, which would at least
have enabled the Convention to go on with
the diocesan business; but 1t was evident, as
soon as the Convention was called to order,
that there would be no compromise. Taking
his seat the Bishop, after calling the meeting
to order, stated that the question was upon
the appeal Of St Michael's church from the
ruling of the Chair.
MIR j. ]. Pringle Smith first obtained the
floor and restated the views he had expr essed
"a rtnor he nrni nc
The Rev. Mr.. Bellinger made short speech
on the organization of the Convention, at the
close of which there were cries Of "Question!
| Question:
The Bishop, before putting the question, said
that after thinking the matter over he had
come to the conclusion that he might have
made mistake in entertaining the appeal.
Two days had been spent in the fruitlcss dis
cussion Of this matter, and he would take oc-
casion to announce now that, after taking the
vote on this appeal, he would receive no fur
Of the Convention, but would 60 on with the
regular business. 1.-THE question" he contin-
ucd, "is: Shall the decision Of the Chair stand
as the sense Of the house?'
4 vote was then taken by orders and result
cd:
| Clergy-Yeas %, nays2
! Laymen-Yeas 8, nays 13, divided2.
or course there was non concurrence, and
the laymen had gained another victory, as
they thought.
The Bishop, however, after announcing
that, Jnere DelnS nOn-concuTTcnce, tne ue-
cison of the Chair had not been sustained,
Immediately turned to the secretary, and in.
structed him to 60 on and read the 'rules OF
order" this being the first business under the
order OF business.
THE BISHOPS ACT OF CONTEMPT FOR GEN
i ERAL M'CRADY.
For moment there was an ominous ST.
lepce The secretary had proceeded with the
rcading. But this was soon broken by Gen.
McCrady, who, jumping up on his feet, said:
"Mr. President, rise TO a point Of order"
6En The b B!sM99p ar9e !yery oamly9 ""hat is your
Gen. McCrady: "rhe Convention is not or.
ganiZed, and any business -
The Bishop, (stil very ealmly) go on with
the rules, Mr.. Secretary"
Gen. McCrady: ~ appeal from the decision
The Bishop: "The Chair has already stated
that the Convention is duly organized, and
that it will entertain no other motions or ap.
peals that tend to question its organization"
Gen McCrady, (excitedyD "But, Mr.. PresI-
dent, let me tell You, sir, that the right Of APP
peal is an inherent one. and no delegate TO
body. If this is attempted twill simply break
up this Convention"
The Bishop, (still very calmly) "Go on with
the rules Mr.. Secretary"
At this point Gen. McCrady resumed his
seat and once more the voice of the secretary
was heard reading the rules OF order.
HON. C.. G.. MEMM1NGER GIVES NOTICE THAT
! GRACE CHURCH wITHDRAws.
A delegate moved that the reading of the
rules be dispensed with, and the motion was
at once adopted. While the Bishop was about
referring to his order OF business the II on. G..
q. Memminger, who occupied seat In the
pew with the lay delegates from Grace church
arose in his seat and amid dcathlike silence
sent up the following paper. which re request
ed should be read by the secretary:
"Thc lay delegates OF 81. pauis onurch, had-