The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-07-22

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ton took place the canvassing board sometime
in the evening about o'clock while the board in
myself. I cannot tell you whether it in the ante
room or the judges room I asked him if he hadn't
Q-You stated that DR.. Metcalf asked YOU if the
Fourth ward reached and said when they reached
1t, 1t would be dandy. When was that What
time?
| others sat at table. The Doctor leaned over and
asked if the Fourth ward had been eanvassed said
1t had not. and he said it would be dandy when 1t
was reached.
Mr.. Brown here started in with long list of
| questions. asking the witness if he testified to
such and such things before the Marion county
! grand jury in relation the tally con-
spiracy. The first half dozen questions Perkins
answered afirmativey. denying the others. The
| witness explained as follows. IAN agreement
was entered into between Major Mitchell and
| Captain Ritter respecting what questions should
| be asked and answered l wrote out a state
ment and was let off with testifying little and
was not asked anything else" He then in
terrogated as to the circums tances under which
| he was now witness for the government
Q.-You have then testified and have assisted your
| Al have told the truth. daughter about the
Q.-Mr. Ayres the Democratic candidate for judge
resided in your ward and precincts
| Q.-You were exceedingly anxious he should be
| A.-No than others the ticket.
Q-Was it not your occupation to become bonds
man in the city and criminal courts?
| Al have become bondsman for Bernhamer; and
have gone bonds at the request of Sullivan and
| Q-How much did they pay you9
A.-Not dollar.
Q-They were not of the criminal classes. whose
| bonds you usually go.
| A-You can judge of that yourself.
| Mr.. Brown, disturbed and angered by the
laughter that followed this reply, appealed to
the court.
The Court-The marshal will see to removing any
body who offends in this way. Remove him, and do
Q-Were you not on the bond for two confidence
men, and your desire to have Ayers elected was in the
hope OF setting aside the bond!
Q.-You had no acquaintance with these men, but
they had friends here who interceded for them. You
got 500 for doing sol
Q-Didn't you receive 800 for going on their
Al did not; not dollar.
.Q-Didn't you say Smith Myers in the postofice
of this city that if the money not made up
did noe sh Myers D0s d me there was
some money raised for me BY Mr. McGinns upstairs
IN the postohce, and short time after this he told
me the money had been paid 4 Sullivan.
Mr.. W. D. Bynum-Mr Perkins what time in the
day did this conversation you have related be-
tween you and Mr.. Beckl
Alt was sometime shortly after dinner; just
Q.-After o'clock
A-Yes sir. think it must have been. It was in
the afternoon.
Q.-Where were you standing7
A-Leaning against the railing in front of the
ante-room of the Circuit Court.
Q.-You had been out of the room some timer
A.-Two or three minuees. Matter had gone out
before Beck had paper wrapped up under his
de didn't say what ward or precinct the tallys
Q.-Just said he had a tally sheet there and wanted
you to go and change it'll
Q.-That was the only conversation you had2
A.-Yes sir. He walked down right in front of me
and went into the Smith Myers and Gov were
in there when l came out.
Off they had come out and passed up the hall
would you have seen them!
Francis j. Mattler attorney for Stephen Mat
tier crossexamiped the witness regarding noints
oiarIn Mo olfa h.,f 1xya6
nothing new He was re-examined by Mr.. Clay
pool.
that you present when Werbe took
the tally sheets of the second precinct, Thirteenth
Answer-Yes sir.
Q-State whether not objections were made at
that time and if So who made them.
A.-There were several who made them. Hisey
made objections and did I. When the tally sheets
was Informed he entitled the other tally sheet
apd took out bis circular | said Held on, let mo
and gone out the door with it,
Odd Coy state to you that Matter had changed
his purpose by scratching his own paper
Q-Something has been said about you going on
the bond of couple of men designated confidence
men-who asked you to go on that bonda
A.-Mr Coy and others.
Mr.. seers-In this connection, this witness has
indicated the changes upon Stephen Matters tally
papers we wish o submit them to the jury SThe
papers given to the jury for examination
Allen Hisey was RECALLED and questioned by
Question-You said that during part of the after.
noon.twenty or thirty minutes-your papers Were
Perkins. You viii now state who returned the papers
to you
Answer.-Stephen Mattler.
Q.--What did you do when your precinct was
called if called that day with reference to your tally
sheets when called to be countedl
Al handed them up to the man who took them
o.NqWas that after or before thew had been re-
turned to you by Stephen Mattlera
Att after.
Q.--State whether not these papers were out of
your from the time Matter returned them
to you until you handed them to the charmana
Daniel Burton was called, and questioned
by Mr.. Sellers. He stated that he resided at No.
129 West New York street at the time of the No
vember election in 1886. He inspector of
the south precinct of the Twelfth ward, and was
member of the canvassing board.
Queston-State whether during that day, abou
little after noon. you in east of
the Circuit Court room in which there at the
time Mr.. Perkins and others.
Answer accidentally happened into room. do
not recollect seeing anybody there but Mr.. Perkins
and Mr.; Coy There were perhaps others in the room
whose backs We're to me- but don't recollect who
they at this time Perkins sitting at desk
east of me. don't know how far. He was leaning
apparently writing. do not think L remained
there longer than quarter of minute.
Q.-What induced you to go to that room?
Al think somebody said Smith Myers wanted to
see me- and directed me to that
Q--W hat remark did you make when you started
Al don't recollect that made any remark
Q.-Why did you go out?
A.-Because the party L wanted to see was not
there
Question by Mr.. Brown.-Did you say Great God!
this is place for met
Al did not.
Andrew OehIer, inspector of the first precinct
of the Seventeenth ward called. His testi-
mony unimportant The tally-sheets left
by him, he was sick, and which were afterwards
returned to the board by VIM. Fl. Corbaley were
altered Mr. Corbaley was called and cues
toned by Mr. Sellers. He said that he resided
in the Vance block and was Democratic judge
of the first precinct of the Seventeenth ward.
Mr.. Oehler was Inspector. He was present when
the tally paper and poll-list signed after
the completion of the vote. He did not know
what papers were put into the bag. He knew
after it sealed up he helped carry the ballot
box
Question--W When did you again the outside pa
pers?
Answer-On the morning the returning board met |
in the Circuit Court