New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1887-09-11


party In order to render his utferahces nho
authoritative and more definite, he only gran.o
the interview in question to the 1ournaiio.
three days spent in telegraphio I;,ss;nc
with the Pope on the subject. Aiter u, S"S;na1
at length the Pontifs leter 10 Ine an;oms
Secretarv NJ state. and setting forth the various
roints thereof. TO which / have drawn attent'on
above no declared: "Ihe Holy Father has not
the slightest wish TO demoish any thing 'na' On
lists. lie only demands the recognition OF upo
principle of his independence and sovereignty
The manner in which this principle OF lnoepehu-
cnce is to be recognized is mere secondary
question. Will the Pope's sovereignty be limited
to a portion of Rome, will it include the port
of Civita Vecchia? Will the Pontif have the
right TO coin money and impose Custom House
dues or notP Are the PontiGcal forces to %
limited to gendarmerie merely sunclent III
point of numbers to maintain orderr VIII tne
Pope rule his portion of the Eternal City hmsen
or will he content himself with the role OF
suzerain, confding the government thereon 10
his ally, King Humbertp All these are mere
questions of detail to be discussed, ana VIII
quickly be settled by the diplomats ana STATES
men, once the principle Of independence mas
been established"
1t is we'll known at the Vatican that King
Humbert Is not adverse to these views just
a fortnight before the date on which the ropes
letter was written, an interview look place
between Monsignor Amino, the chaplain OF King
Humbert, and one Of the principal prelates OF the
Vatican. In the course of his conversation Mgr. An
zinc remarked that the King personally was thor
oughly disposed to favor the scheme for surrender
Ing to the Pontif modified form of sovereignty
the Leontne City and the that is 10 say.
the part of Rome situated on the right Dahh oi
the Tiber between the Lingorra and the new
quarter of the Pratt di Castcli. 1t Is needless 10
add that the Vatican, St. Peters and the Castie
of San Angelo form part thereof. This proposal
has the entire approval of Prince Bismarck ana
is even regarded a matter for favorable discus
sion by Signor Crispi, the new Italian friihe
Minister.
1t is not generally known that the instructions
which General Cadorna, the commander OF the
Royal forces, received from the Italian Govern
ment on entering Rome in 1870, were entirely In
accordance with this scheme. In The captula-
ton signed the Goth Of September, 1870, by
General Kanzler on behalf of the Pope, General
Cadorna, In obedience to the commands which
he had received, consented TO the Pontif Keeping
the Leonine portion of the city, together with the
Guarda Mobile the Swiss Guard, and corps
of Papal Gcndarmerie for the purpose OF main
tanning order there General Cadorna issued the
strictest commands to the Italian troops under no
rrctence to cross the Bridge Of san Angelo, which
connects the Leonne City with the remainder OF
Rome. On the following morning, however, while
tho remainder OF the Papal forces were marching
past General Cadorna, after having Laid down
their arms, the Prussian Ambassador, Count
Arnim, came hurriedly TO him, saying that most
serious apprehensions were felt at the Vatican,
and begging him send Royal troops TO
maintain order in the Leonine City. General
Cadorna at first refused declaring that sucn
step would be entirely contrary TO the commands
which he had received but that as his INSTRUCTIONS
had likewise been to preserve order, he would
send the troops over for that purpose If they were
asked for by the Pontif himself, or by Cardinal
Antonelli, the Pspal Secretary OF State In the
fnan fi,na Cad a etaH thraa hat
talions to march at once TO the Bridge OF San
Angelo, but not to cross 1t. Shortly afterward
Count Arnim returned with written declaration
Of Cardinal Antoneln stating that there
a dangerous agitation in the neghborhood OF
the Vatican, and requesting the immediate pres
ence there of Royal troops. 1t only then
that General Cadorna gave the order to his
soldiers TO the bridge and TO take pos
session Of the Lconnc City.
Having thus firmly planted his colors In the
held the Pope now proposes TO leave TO the clerical
party in PaflaINnt the task of bringing about
in constitutional and peaceful manner the aims
which he has SO distinctly set forth Signor
FazAari, who is one of the most devoted adherents
OF the House OF Savoy In the Italian Chamber
of Deputies, stated last May in a remarkable
letter published in the Malone" that n recon-
Citation between Church and State would be
easily attained II the ecclesiastical authorities
would give their support at the next Parla-
mentary elections to candidates openly favoring
reconciliation. The King of himself can do moth
ing unless public opinion points that way 1t is
necessary, therefore, that the Pope, continuing
bis concihtory policy toward Italy, should act
at future elections as indicated above, in which
case there would be q large Parliamentary ma
Jority in favor of reconciliation Tie moment
has come for decisive action in this matter
Let the Pope take the initiative and Italy
Will be grateful to him."
The Holy Father has taken the initiative as
requested. Hitherto there has been no clerical
party in Italian political life whereas in Germany
Belgium, France and Austria il constitutes a
most important factor in the parliaments and
legislative bodies. So powerful indeed has the
centre party in the German Reichstag become
that Primo Bismarck, after fight of over
fifteen years, has been constrained to haul down
the flag OF the kulturzampf and to surrender Oh
every point to the Church party. Moreover In
his recent struggle TO get the military Septcnnate
Dill passed by the German Legislature, he was
forced to purchase the support and votes OF
the Centre party, with valuable concessions 10
the Catholic Church. A similar state of things
las recently prevailed in Belgium and in France
Why not in Italy2 One thing at least is certain
namely, that Leo XIII. is far too enlightened n
statesman and clever n diplomat 10 have vcnturcd
to bmit TO the ordeal OF the polls and its implied
recognition of popular sovereignty unless he had
been beforehand completely assured of ultimate
victory.