Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1887-09-26

THE THISTLE CAN SAIL.
Discussion ~ to the Discrepancy In the
Measurements Of Her Water.Line.
NOT TO BAR her OUT, But TO ESTABLISH PRICE,
DENT-REPoRT OF EMPIRE STANDARDIZATION
PERFECTLY SATISFIED.
The discussion as to whether the discrepancy
between the Thistle's water-line as given in the
challenge, and as proved by actual measurement,
would bar her from competing for the cup, has
been definitely settled. This happy result was at
tanned through meeting at the New York Yacht
Club Saturday night, participated in by the cup
committee the regatta committee, and others.
Among those present were Commodore Gerry, ex-
Commodore Smith, Vice. Commodore Haight Philip
Schuyler, Alexander Taylor, Jr., Gen. Paine Jas.
Bell, the representative owner OF the Thistle;
Geo. Watson, her designer, and VIM. Yorke, the
secretary OF the Royal Clyde Yacht Club. The
discussion was entirely amicable, and all parted
with the best OF feeling and pleasant antcipatons
OF seeing a race worth seeing on Tuesday and
another on Thursday.
The object or the discussion was to elicit a clear
definition OF the meaning OF clause in the deed
OF GIT attached to the Americas cup which ad-
United OF diverse interpretatfOnS-tO ascertain
whether or not according to the deed OF gift, the
challenging yacht Is required TO state the exact
water-line length. The purpose was merely TO
establish precedent to govern future challenges
and races. This is the clause in the deed OIL GIT
around which the discussion revolved: accom-
panying the SiX-mouthS' notice there must be a
custOm-houSe certificate OF the measurement and
statement Of dimensions, rig, and name OF the
vessel" The committee held that the water line
gilt, and, In view OF the precedent that would be
established by the acceptance OF either view oi
the case at this time both parties desired TO sub
nit the question to the umpire, MI. Geo. l.
Schuyler, who is the sole surviving donor OF the
Americas cup.
WHAT Mr.. BELL SAYS.
After the meeting Saturday night Mr.. Bell, the
owner OF the Thistle, in an interview, said:
'There never was any question OF the race CON-
ing OFF. The only question that arose was whether
the deed OF gift requires statement OF the water
line length. The decision will affect future races,
not this In our challenge we stated the custom
house measurements. These do not anord any
basis for estimating within ten feet what the
water-iine length is. Therefore, as matter Oh
courtesy and fair play, We wanted the cup com,
mittee to know what the water-line length would
be, and sent them estimate OF IL as nearly cor
rect as could he obtained in advance OF the actual
launch OF the yacht and the putting OF her IN rae.
Ing trim. We stated in our letter OF March IL that
figures Tor the water-line length were the result
Of an approximate estimate. The committee TOOK
no exception TO such statement or the dimen-
sions. Therefore, OF course, we considered that
the statement was entirely satisfactory. There
has been no disposition to treat the Thistle uri.
fairly. The whole object or the discussion has
been to settle point that, II not settled, might
cause trouble some day, whether the cup remains
here or, as we hope, returns 10 England The
yachts are now about as fairy matched as they
could be III they had been constructed for that ex
press purpose. There is only live seconds differ
ence between them. Win or lose, We shall take
ngs toward the he New York yachismen and also on!
special competitors. They are gentlemen and
spOrtsmen."
which IS entirely satisfactory to all the members
OF the Americas cup committee andt he New YorL
YACHT Club, and, OF course, to MIR. Bell and the
friends OF the Thistle. The report Is as follows:
UMPIRE sCHUYLER's REPORT.
"My reply to the questions submitted to me by Mr.
Bell Is as follows:
"The clause in the deed of gift. which requires be
side the custom house measurement statement Of tn,
dimensions OF the vessel is intended to convey JUS
idea OF the capacity ut the same time without refer
scs to any f f Is to Iasg ,onnsss which sy be II
OF load water line is an essential element 1t was fur
not been given by the Thistle the committee shoule
have demanded it before the terms Of the match
the Thistle. notwithstanding his misrepresentation
the necessity Of doing for the reasons sta ed b.
be impossible to determine with approach to
scy the power of his boat the reason ~hlc proves III
the Dimensions Of the vessel well the desire 0
az ss make
Your second question refers to discrepancy between
letter Of March L. 1887 about S. eet and the setaa
measurement made in New York. Sc 49, 100 feet Tn,
IS e ss
the with the histe there left to thu
infornaiion was done and the eerticate Of tn
n f0 ssnpe snas Tas
is her eng and when she Is atost and il
more than an inch or two out either way The import
snce of accuracy in giving the dimensions Of yacht
reached in any cannot be used as precedent
in any other which may arise ~,
through mistake or design would vitiate the agree
ment small one should De governed by the circn,n
although the variation between the stated and actu1
to the defender O. the Cup still a. Mr. Bell could only
rely upon tiIe "ieent Of ms designer he cain"t il
ably il.ccu informs: ton received from him. and
Therefore, decide that the variaton sufficient
agreed upon"
DESIGNER wATsoNs PROTEST.
Mr.. Geo. L. Watson. the designer OF the Thistle
last night issued the following protest in regard t.
the closing paragraph of Mr.. Schuyler's report
which, he thinks, reflects upon himself:
from all blame in the matt placing it, with periec
Justice on his designer. but as he previously implie:
sign it becomes to protest against
at least half of this insination Just here let NE say
S is too Eentlenan and honora
OIL At 9e 10 sne OF th %
decision may interpret it otherwise. While them tn,
at line lower than her designed draft. ana conse
guently from her great oyerlang forward and aft
would b. most snphasic.y deny that lad sny IN IN
tention that she should be longer shorter than
type Of boat built under . Ito mel new
| tonnage law. and after getting her into sail
measurer found her to be s640 feet long, or three
Club measurer found her to be. The New York Yach
Club scale OF time allowance is supposed to adjust al
that purpose If under this rule. extra length be an
advantage it would be unfair to MIR Burgess
of unchivalrous conduct in designing q boat 10
inches longer than the vessel he expected meet
to blame me for meeting the Volunteer with boat
teer While throughout this contest have maintained
snch secrecy AS seemed to advisable Gas a whist
player has every right to conceal his hand would
rather lose ali chance OF the cup than that of the
many millions that people which Chas Reade calls
the most generous nation under the sum should sup
pose tried for it except in strictly honorable Way
In their hands confidently leave the matter"
An Indian Outbreak.
THE SAN CARLOS APACHES WILL PROBABLY BE JOINED
By ESKIMIZIN'S BAND.
Most intense excitement prevails in Tucson,