The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1887-04-16
HOT WORDS IN THE COMMONS.
A Conservative Member Repeatedly Charged
with Lying-yery Exciting Scenes

A Conservative Member Repeatedly Charged
with Lying-very Exciting Scenes.
LONDON, April l5-Sir William Vernon Har-
court. resumiDg the debate On the coercion bill
in the House of Commons. this afternoon said
the present alliance between the Liberals and
Parneites was based on the Liberal recognition
of the fact that the wisest policy in Irish affairs
lay in the acceptance of some form of Irish gov
ernment which would tend to satisfy the Irish
people. He twitted Lord Randolph Churchill
and Mr. Chamberlain with having secretly con-
suited MIR. Parnell. seeking to make an alliance
with him for their own purposes. Referring to
the conspiracy and Whiteboy clauses of the pro-
posed act Sir William declared that they sapped
the foundation Of all personal liberty and
would even debar Irishmen from forming
business combinations to defend their existing
rights The spirit in which the govern
ment would administer the coercion act, if
it were passed, was sufficiently shown in the ap-
pointment of Colonel King g-Harman to the par
lamentary under secretaryship for Ireland. By
this appointment the government had declared
themselves to be the partisans of the landlords
and determined to administer the bill as the
agents of the landowners in Ireland, thus be-
coming instruments to stimulate the worst pas
sions of the people ard their bitterest religious
prejudices. The bill would fail to suppress the
Irish National League, because the people of
Ireland believed in the League and trusted it.
The effect of the enforcement of the bill would
be to make the government more detested and
the League more popular than ever.
As to the Tory and Liberal Union
taunts about American gold fostering
said: ''There are none who have less reason
to complain of American gold than the Irish
landlords. for mono get more Of it. They get
it through their poor tenants rents" The pro-
posal to make the bill permanent, Sir William
characterized as breach of the fundamental
conditions of the union between Ireland and
Great Britain. The government professed to
reverence this union, but were doing their best
to violate it. If the government earnestly de-
sired to maintain the union, let them abandon
the policy of exasperating the Irish people and
adopt the policy of justice and conciliation.
Major Sanderson, Conservative, said the Ma
tional League was supported mainly by crlni-
mails, dynamters and murderers across the At
lantic. He did not charge the gentlemen oppo-
site with imbruing their hands in blood. but he
did charge them with associatlng with men
whom they knew to be murderers.
Mr. Healy rose to point of order.
The Speaker replied that Major Saunderson
had made grave charges, but these could be met
in debate He himself was unable to interfere
Mr.. Healy responded that he would say what
he thought of Saunderson. regardless of con-
sequences. If Major Saunderson referred 20
him. he had no hesitation in saying that Saund-
derson liar
This remark was greeted with rousing Parnell-
ite cheers.
The Speaker called upon MIR. Heay to with
draw the expression and Mr.. Healy replied:
~ am not entitled to rise until you sit down"
The cheering was renewed, and the Speaker
resumed the chair.
Mr.. Healy again took the floor and said: 'I
am only able to meet the charge in way. If
you rule Major Sauuderson III order, my express
sion is equally in order. If you rule him out of
order shall withdraw my expression"
The Speaker-That is not Mr.. Saunder-
son made charge of the gravest nature and
respons bity rests entirely with himself 1t Is
his duty to prove it if he can cheers but can
! not allow the expression you used.
| Mr.. Healy repeated that Saunderson was a
| liar, and great uproar arose. The Speaker
| again called upon Mr.. Healy to withdraw his
| language, and Healy refused. The Speaker
| thereupon named him, and ". II. Smith. First
| Lord of the Treasury. moved that Healy be sus
/ pended.
Mr. Redmond jumped mp and shouted Il say
/ he is liar too
/ The House divided on the motion to suspend
! Healy. and the motion was carried-l18 to az