New-York tribune., 1886-06-09
WHAT IRISHMEN HERE THINK.
DISSOLUTION AND TRIUMPH HOPED FOR.

DISSOLUTION AND TRIUMPH HOPED FOR.
CONDEMNATION or CHAMBERLAIN AND THE RAD
ICALs-MUCH GAINED ALREADY.
a TRIBUNE reporter visited yesterday some
OF the prominent lrshincr who have been identified
with the Efforts for Iciand's freedom this side of the
Atlantic This Is what they had say concerning the
defeat of the bill and the ultimate result:
Eugene Kelly chairman OF tho Irish Parliamentary
Fund Association" AIN hopeful to the OUTLOOK for
Ireland If there is any countryand doubt that there
is-where tho Just demands Of Ireland has not been
discussed, defeat present in face OF tho ovcrh we
ing arguments advanced i its favor by the greatest men
in England will make the peopie Of every part OF the
civilized world interested and array them he side OF
ireland. | think there may be an attempt 10 form n
coalition Ministry, but coalition Ministries
been successful England. those COMPOSING them
usually mistrust another. Gladstone may resign
however, and allow the Tories TO take hand, II they
wrre willing TO Iun the Government without becoming
involved IN any great question OF foreign policy The
probability is that Parliament will be dissolved Tuere
can be doubt about the result OF election. Parne
will prob ,by have ninety followers in the Parlia
ment and with the increased Liberal majority from
Great Britain Home Rule VIII he carried. The talk
about religion nonsense it shows the ponents have
no longer any real arguments and they are annoyed
because they know they haven't any,"
Matthew Leavy, also OF the Parliamentary Fund
Aesociaton-"I | am better pleased TO the second
defeated a y,
principally because it enables the Ii people 70 Gud out
al last that the Radicals whose rogramme years ago
the legislative independence OF Ireland found foremost
place hyp0cres OF the meanest kind. Ireland never
expected any thing om the Tories. They at le s
open enemies. But look at these Radicals. fcannot
mention them withou; feeling Of anger. Here is the
first after many centuries OF persecution that
an honest endeavor has been made by honest
Engshman TO settle the question with tile world
applauding the act. and when the supreme moment
arrives Ireland is stabbed the back by preten
friends"
The Rev J. p OBoyle, who was a parish prizes; in
saintheld, County Down, during W. +. Forsters admin
istrati as Chief Secretary Tor Ireland and who had
leave Ireland OF tue threats OF that official to
him for taking the aide OF the people during the
days OF the Coercion Act" Chamberlain defeated the
BILL and lie defeated II the retence that he wished 10
save the liberties of Ulster Proesants. As an
FISHERMAN ny sell may say know something about
this problem. don't remember any other instance in
history where have deliberately threatened to sh
az inst tho liberation Of their country, as the Orange
men have, except perhaps the Tories IN this country
during the Revolution. But these Tories did not
claim to be Americans while tao Orangelaen not alone
claim TO be lrishmen. but actually Ireland Itself VIII
they night lld they fight during the Crimean wal
they boasted Trey would preserve the Grow and
beat back tue khssAns ana after caiins ior Ievies
during six months could only bring s1tytwo volunteers
together Did they fight during the passage Of the act
disostablising the Protestant Church in 1870. When
they boas.cd tnry would maintain the Protestant
religion and the hertico Of England and at tho time
Kick The Queens crown Into the Boyne The Orangs-
men wont fight They Will lose three more seats In
Ulster after the next general election which only be
won by cooperation of hooest P,otcstanis with
Na;ionalists After the election. OF course, the lomc
The Rev Father Larkn, of Holy Inuocents' cfurcn.
who has just returned from visit to Ireland"
large enough to push the bill through. 1t will go
TO the House OF Lords and they OF course in their blind
cvent o smcnce1ng VIII bs psv @ thst @ c
"A
sweeping than Gadst0ne's."
General James r. O'Beirne prominent member Of
the Hoffman House Committee tunk James g.
Blaine In his great speech for Ireland hit tue mai on the
question Will assredy lind it costly to deal
win hereafter and then the Irish people would no. be
satisfied, whereas the bill II passe, now would pacatc
them Dissolution discontinue OF the Radicals and the
triumph Of Gladstone will lie the result this present
country who will not put his shoulder the wheel
help forward this most lust .c,n cause. A.. u
Rnle bill beaten hy small majority as was the case,
dissolution OF Parlameu', followed by general election,
Will result in decided majority In favor OF Mr.. Glad
Home Kulc / do not doubt. 1t is inevitable. The
present defeat is merely Temporary setback, to be
'oaMfI Paru ~ Ford Of e h The defeat of
Glad-onc's Home Rule measure, although not di-ap
pr spcct OF readjustmcht Of the relations between
Ireland ana England upon basis o. osiice ana reason &
resign, and the rens OF government will lie gwen TO
Harrington. But Harrington Will have a workable
majority his side, and he must surrender po
AD appeal 10 tho country will have to Re made ana the
ssuo Will be Home Rule. II great thing Yesterday
A. 200 En- gli>hmen and Scotchnen the British
House OF Commons vote In favor or Home Rule ior
Ireland Whether that figure indicated tue high water
mark of British ibcrality toward Ireland whether IL
the promise of better things cam say.
sincerely hope H. the latter. Yet cannot help
thinking that the presentation of Irish Home Rule in the
English Parliament has been made under exceptionally
favorable crcuus ances. Gladstone Is or
strength No man In Great Britain has anything IKE ms
personal following But Gladstone is now slowly
climbing up TO eighty. His working day Is well nigh
ended
TO speculate the possible resnlt Of the forthcom
lug elections then. Idle. II the British people shall
approve OF GladsOnes policy at the polls then era
Of peace between England and Ireland Will haze been
naugurated. III, the contrary, the British people
vote peaceful efforts thr part OF such frimen as
incline that way Will probably he supplemented by
other rrishmen with method, OF different This Is
uttered not a threat but as a speculation"
United States Marshal McMaBon-" This Is only the
beginning. Home Rule will win the cay. II will lie
carried 10 the country ani Gladstone VIII succeed In
getting majority for 1t. The fight will he warm III
England aud scotland, ana America will send out
lars saplm