The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-12-29

Testimony Elected that May Get Somebody
Into Very Serious Trouble.


Into Very Serious Trouble.
The inquiry before United States Commits
sioner VanBuren was resumed yesterday after
at O'clock. The first witness placed upon
the stand was George W. Budd, to whom Lorenz
Schmidt testified he was introduced by John E.
Sullivan on the day the canvassing board met,
and to whom he gave the tally-sheet and poll
book of his precinct which afterwards, when it
came before the canvassing board, was altered,
votes being taken from Irwin and Wagner, and
added to the votes of Ayres and Morrison.
Budd is now a deputy in County Clerk Sulli-
vans Office. He was examined by Captain Rt-
ter, and the questions as answered, may serve
to impeach his testimony.
Question-Were you present during the time when
the canvassing board canvassed the returns made
from the election boards in this county after the cleo
ton on the second day of November lastl
Answer--Yes, sir.
Q.-Were you present during all of the timel
A-No sir.
Q.-How much of the timer
Al was in and out.
Q-About how much of the time were you therel
AIN the afternoon, think.
Q.-Were you there at night!
Al was there in the evening while
Q-Were you in any way engaged therel
A.-Nc, sir.
Q.-Were you any of the election boards of ths
county,
A.-NO, sir.
CAT whose request did you attendf
AT no ones.
Q.-Are you acquainted with Sim Coyi
A-feS sir.
Q:-bid you see him during the progress of ths
work of the canvassing boardl
Al have recollection of seeing him.
Q.-Are you acquainted with Mr.. Couselman9
A.-NC sir.
Q-Are you acquainted with Mr. spaanl
Al have just got acquainted with him.
Odd you see him?
Al believe did
Odd you see Bernhaner?
Ayes, SIR
Odd you see John E. Sullivan Thursday after
the election at the canvassing boardl
Ayes, sir
that day9
A.-No, sir.
Q.-You didn't speak to him at all!
Al just spoke to him.
Q.--Did you take part in any way in the workSos
that boardl
Q.-Were You present at any time when any con
troversy arose in any precinctl II
Al DO not recoliect now Of any.
Q.-Were you there when Mr. Schmidts precinct +
was called?
A.-No, sir.
Odd you ever see hima
A.-Not to my knowledge.
Odd you see him on that day of the canvassing I
boardl
Al don't know him.
Q-Were you not introduced to him by Mr. Sui.
lvanf
Q-Did Mr.. Sullivan introduce you to anyone'
A.-No sir.
Did you see any tally sheet in the possession of
Sullivan that days
A-No sir.
Odd not Mr.. Sullivan introduce you to Mr.. To-
REM Schmidt in the Circuit Court room while tho
board of canyassers in session, and at the sug
gestion of MIR. Sullivan did not Mr. Iorenz Scemdt
hand you his tally-Shee and poll-bookl
A-No sir; he did not
Q-Were you present when any conversation was
had about passing any tay-sheet and pollbook into
your control!
A-No sir.
Q-Were Mr.. Lorenz Schmidts tally, sheet and
po6ook not put into your possession at the sugges
ton Of Mr. John Il. Sullivan and they were takcn to
a in the Grand Hotel where ensures were m ade
acid being used and words and figures were written
inl
A-No sir.
Q-Havent you heard that matter talked about
A--No sir.
in your possession and you passed them oyea