The Memphis appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1886-1890, 1886-11-27
ThinIs Northern Capital May BE
Dealt with as Southern Slavery
Was, and by Law.


Rramme was in that language, as were
most OF the exercises. Shortly after y
O'Clock DR.. Aveling and his wife ar
rived. He was encased in tre-
mendous fur overcoat, and he had
cultivated with care q general resem'
blancs to Mr.. Henry Irving, the actor.
Mrs. Marx .Aveling Is q woman be-
tween 20 and 80, q dark brunette, with
bright eyes, who would be pretty but
for the very remarkable costume che
wore, This was q black cloth dress,
with queer sleeves and an odd neck,
rather STACEY, or, perhaps, rather fancy
ballish, Ia its eject.
The ladies engaged in the sociallstic
propaganda despise the sdvsntitious
effects OF d'ess, however, and as soon
as one had besn talking for few mo-
ments to the young lady one alto
Rether forgot her rather bizarre cos
tune.
She plunged at once into discus
sion Of the doctrines which she is
here TO teach.
"Tell me-" sad toe Reptiblican rep.
resentative, "just what your goal is."
"The abolition OF all private prop.
erty used for productive purposes"
she replied.
"Then your attack Is to be delivered
wholly against capital |"
"That at first"
"How do you propose to 20 about 1t
by confscation 2"
"How was the capital Of the South
ern States, which wss invested in
slavee, destroyed That is
GOOD EXAMPLE.
We do not hope TO reach our ideal
state at once; we will have to come to
itgrsdually."
HWhat is the ideal sister"
ain the first place your definition OF
the state and mine would, probably,
be very different. A false conception
Of the purposes and functions OF the
state has grown up, aud Is now 30 gem
eTal that it Is necea airy that we Bho uld
know Just what we are taking about
before we talk fulther. Your state is
q device for the classes to RUE the
many-our ideal state is the rule OF
the community. With you the gov
erniDg minority Is the state, with uH
1t will be the social energy OF the
whole people. / do not think that II
10 profitable now TO discuss what that
state will be. We might as well de-
bate how we will cut our coats which
We will wear fifty years hence. Wait
till We get the cloth. Wait till the
time is ripe. believe that the new
order Scls,, e S.,s saiaR' should be left to de-
"You would first. as you shy, de-
stroy all cspilalH'
"Yes. Our war now Is on capital.
We hold IL to be the cause-we he
neve that the capitalistic system is the
cause OF all the poverty and want in
the'world today. Look at the facts.
You 90 on, under the present method,
making the rich man richer and the
poor man poorer with the certainty Of
o logical process. Understand me,
We would not take from man the &C.
cumulations OF his industry and econ
omy, bat We would prevent him from
using this accumulation Ia the pay
ment OF wages. We believe that all
the process Of production should be.
long to the State"
Cant you make that idea little
more ineligible 70 me2 How are
you going to yet to this new condition
Of thiDg,2"
"In the frat place, then, all the
machinery should be pubic, not pri-
Vate, property. The State shou' d sup
ply all the things essential to pro.
duotion-raw material and mechanical
appliances. Each one should Wo k a
certain time, and there wouli thus b.,
work for all, while none would be
compelled to toll too much. Under
your capitalistic system the many
must work more than their share that
the few may be altogether idle. When
this false sys EN- has been cleared
away the people will come to the
better one"
"This clearing away idea savors
somewhat of anarchy"
"There is absolutely nothing in
common between
THE ANARCHISTS AND THE SOCIALISTS.
AnArchism isindividualism gone mad /;
socialism Is the highest development
Of society. We have had no more
bitter antagonists than the anarchists.
Even your capitalistie press has not
treated us as unfairly as the Friheii
and other snaIchistic papers. The
Eheihet advised that we should
be shot before we were permit
tod to spread our hereey In this
country. 1t is common, but grave
mistake that there is some sympathy
between the two schools. They could
not be farther apart. And the an
archisb view me with especial disia-
vor. One OF my fathers earliest
works was against Pfudhon; one Of
his latest against Bakunin. He stead
fasuy opposed the old anarcbism and
the new. II Is to clear up this mis-
conception that much OF our work has
been directed. 1t Is an ignorant error,
but prevalent one"
lyon fope that capital once cleared
away the tonialistic organization will
at once replace It,"
mot at once, perhaps. Not In day,
or year, or ten years. But II will
come, because II lie the only economic
nuth. Do you know that during the
short existence OF the Paris commune
the poBtofiee was thoroughly organ
iEed and conduciedP II, you must ad.
NIT, is . highly complicated bus ness,
yet II was maintsinsd In q manner
which was conceded to be thoroughly
elective"
"ihe postofice in every country is
managed by the State, and hence
there was q ready made model for the
communists to copy. Your illustra-
ton would be more effective II you
could tell me sb1ut the successful or
ganistion aud conduct on commun-
istic principles, say Of shoe factory,
for instance"
"One is certainly not more difficult
than the other. There is no reason
why the State should not furnish the
leather and the materials, wbile the
labor would be given by the working.
men. II that were done you NAV be
very sure y u would not hear, as yCu
do now, OF an owe production Of 500, .,
while men and women are ehoelese.D =
Have you found that yon are max
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