The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1886-12-06
DEBATE IN TIE 1tnrcusrAo.
General Won Moltke aud DIR. windthor
Discuss tho geptOnnate.


Discuss tho septonnate.
BERLIN, Dec. 4,-Intense interest wa
manifested in to-day's session OF The
RsiChstag, when It BECAME known thai
Dr.. Windthorat, the Clerical leader, would
declare the policy Of the Centre, and thai
General Won Moltke was prepared to
speak. DR.. Windthost oueped by s!atlnp
that Ae would not prejudice the position
Of his party in subsequent diyislonu on
the Military septepnsIe bill by positive
promise 40 to how tho Centre would vote.
The final division Of that party would be
known only when division should be
taken on the last reading.
He did not believe 1t possible to maet
the Governments desire to dlspose ofihe
measure before Christmas, becanss he
saw the necessity Of q detailed examina.
ton Of the bill. Nor did there seem any
special reason for urgency arising from
the imminence Of war, The alliance
with Austria constituted q present and
lasting guarantee Of peace In Europe. The
Center could not admit the Ssptennate as
q permanent principle; 1t would prefer to
consider triennial regulation. The ex.
pediency Of q two.yeara' term OF service
was also doubtful. Still, the Center would
vote In favor Of the measures found to be
absolutely neCeBsary.
General Won Moltke followed. He said
that all the neighbors Of Germany, on the
Left and on the Right were fully armed
q state OF things which even q rich Couu.
try was unable 10 bear for any length OF
time and which might lead 10 decisive
events at an early date. For this reason
1t was necessary not TO defer action on the
measure until alter the expiration Of the
septehnate. The preamble TO the bill
showed how far Germany was bchind
other States In the strength OF her army
and the taxation Of her people. The
French, for instance, paid about double
the sum paid by the German people, and
an alliance with France would Sssure the
peace Of Europe.
WIN A FRENCH ALLIANCE IS IMPOSSIBLE.
But" he continued, "suCh an alliance
Is impossible while public opinion in
France impetuously demands the surren.
der Of two provinces which we are strong.
ly determined never to give up" (Cheersl
Continuing he said tho alliance with
Austria was valuable, hat great state
must rely upon itG own strength. The
measure under consideration had refer.
ence, lot alone to peace, but TO a war
establishment, inasmuCh as by the iorma.
ton OF new cadres, the army would bs
raised 10 war footing. The bill has been
compiled with due regard 10 what was
financially obtairahlo, but where
weighty questions Of military
strength and the defence ol the country
were involved financial consideration
must be put aside. This demand" he
said, "iB made In behalf oi the mainte.
nance Of peace, 90 lRborlously preserved,
Our rejection Of the bill will mako US re.
sponBible for all the miSeries attendant
upon hostile Invasion. We have found
i difficult 70 attain tho unity Of Germany.
Let "a uphold II, proving that we are
united. The whole world knows we do
not contemplate conquest. May II also
learn that we intend TO keep what Wo
have and arc resolute and armed 10 this
end"
The conclusion Of Count Won MoltkO's
speech was greeted with loud and pro,
longed cheeSS.
THE WAR MINISTER'S sPREclt.
General Won sChellendori, PruSslar
Minister Of War, referring toa remark o.
a Socialist speaker, said he would only
give detailed explanations Of the bill Ii
committee, II he could rely upon his state
nspa beiuU treated Conadontlally. Tht
basis Of former military bills were similar
10 those Of the present bill yet shaFt
eyes might detect o slight shade Of differ
Rnps II the passage Ia the speech from
tue throne on tho relations OF Germany
10 foreign countries, Some difficulty
IN TACT, txlBted regarding the pEeseEva
tlon oi peace toy any lefRlhenet
period, lls continued, IAN increase o
lhg army will not only result ln prevent
Ing opt becoming involved IN war, I'D
will also prove a. ready 10 BhoW pfopBI
Vlgor Ia the maintenance Ol peace, |
wohld be rash either 10 oysr.eStlmate o
undei.valnB possible opponents. Franc
70 working al the perfection Of the detail
oi her army. Even though we arc quit
confident that We are able ii any tnoinen
10 meet q foreign Amy, Our taak muht hu
be made diLnC1l i BY our remaining lar hC
hind numerically"
In conclusion he lNd he was oppose,