St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-02-25

/ the examination proceeded as follows:
do you know it is wrong TO commit muir
derl''
'.Yes, sir"
''why did you not tell the authorities at
that timer"
because 1 didn't want to-"
.'Did YOU tell Hugh Bean, in my Office, that
! you were arrested, placed in irons and taken
TO Victoria and kept in Jail until you were
compelled to make the statement OF kelys
confession of his killing Baird, according to
common report, in the presence OF Mr.. Har-
rigan, another man and myself, voluntarily,
on Wednesday afternoon last, In this city,
The witness began to explain about some
things in the question being true, and others
not true. when he was stopped by the counsel
for the defense, who demanded a yes or no
answer, and the witness finally answered:
mo. did not"
Ibid you make a statement voluntarily:S
Il said something"
Didn't you sag you were arrested and
taken 10 Victorian
''Ies. / did.
Ibid YOU not say there that you were put
in irOns:"
II said had handouts on my hands.
won't be sure, but might have used the word
irons"
Then you maliciously lied to us?'
Il lied this way. You tried 70 draw me on
Ryan interrupted the witness and said;
Never mind about that" He then insisted
very strongly that the witness should answer
the questions yes, or no. He reStated the
question about lying in the Office, but failed
TO get a direct answer.
AT this point Mr.. Ryan again interrupted
the witness and declared he would not permit
such testimony. he then put the following
question:;
did you not at the same time say You
never told any one that Kelly confessed that
he killed BairdE'
Il did"
'Did you not at the same time say that all
that Kelly confessed TO YOU vas about the wo-
man. Big JESSE"
mo. sir, didn't"
Ibid you not the same evening I'm the pres
ence of Bean, HannisSon and Harrigan, at
the Merchants hotel. and some gentlemen
from Minneapolis, say that Kelly never con-
fessed the killing OF Baird TO you and that
you was compelled TO testify 10 1t. rs IL would
tally with the account of the killing, and
Kelly's going away and Danard's description
of the man who did the killin2!'
''NO. sir. never said no such thing"
''Were you at the Merchants that even
ingE''
ayes, SIR
"Who was with your
"Danard was one of the men with me and
there were Others"
Were you introduced TO any gentlemen
Eyes -
drank with several, did your"
YES"
''Did Danard drink with you every time you
drank!'
mo, he didn't
what time did you get into the city in the
morning.
Between Il and 1 o'clock. I came in on
the Northern Pacific train
Had you been drinking all the afternoon?"
Yes"
''You drank several times?'
Yes, j drank seven or eight times"
You don't lose your memory drinking this
Minnesota whisky as you do drinking
Canadian rot-gut:'
awhile in my office that day did you ask
me what 1 thought OF your evidence;''
II don't remember OF asking you such a
question"
"Did not say that your evidence amounted
TO nothing. and you said you hoped so, as
you would like 10 see Kelly cleared as he was
'an Irishman like yourseifE'
NO. did not say that at all
''Did not 1 ask you to tell the whole story
as you told 1t to me there, and that it
amounted to nothing?"
eyes sir
did you not say that you would have TO
testify to the confession here, or else you
could not go back 10 any of the provinces of
Canada, as you wanted TO return, being
Canadian by birth. and JON your folks living
there:"
At this point the counsel for the British
government entered an objection To the
method of crOSs-eXaminatiOn on the part of
Mr.. Ryan. He said the counsel framed a
question containing several independent
questions and required the witness to an
swer yes or no. The witness cannot answer
the general question that way. He may
wish TO answer some of the questions con-
tanned in the general one in the affirmative
and some in the negative. The witness
would be compelled to make one answer to
.
in the general one. He claimed that for the
purpose of rebutting he ought 10 ask but
one question. The counsel for the defense
virtually agreed that this was the proper
way to do, and the examination proceeded.
Ibid you not say that across the lines the
police were hell and people had 10 dance 10
their music, aud when they got on u mans
trail he had TO walk the plank, or words to
mo. sir, don't remember Of making any
such remark"
IF you did make such a remark you would
remember il, would you nos:''
"Yes, sir, think l would
ibid you make such remark, or words to
that edectl"
II don't remember making such remark"
"Do such men as you stand in fear of
mounted pOce:"
mo, sir, l am not afraid of the mounted
police"
''whO was with you when Hugh Bean Of
fered you the money not to testify against
KellyF"
'Bean did not make me no such offer in
that way at ali
who was with yon when you and Bean
had an interview near the Ryan, testified to
by your
There was no one present on that occa-
sion. when Bean and 1 were talking"
WAS that in small saloon opposite the
Ryan,
1T was up over saloon opposite the
Ryan"
How long were you thereg'
"Half an hour or So.''
Several parties were sitting around, were
they nOtI'
''Yes, sir
"You talked the whole case over, did you
notY'
mo, SIR q
''How much of it?''
Nothing concerning Kelly to amount to
anything"
what were you talking about during that
half hour!''
1--WE were talking about the Northwest"
"Was Danard tneres"
''No, sir
Have any drinks:''
'.No. sir. -
''was any of your crowd thereG''
what do you mean by my crowdI"
This crowd of prosecutors that arc come
out here from the Northwest
mo. sir
show many drinks did you have that day?''
II had about three"
THAT was the second day you were in
town.
mo, SIR
What day was it?'
lit was on Monday"