New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-06-02
THE SPRIYG ELECTIONS BILL.
ARGUMENT BEFORE GOVERNOR HILL.

ANU MEA Dill DIbL W. ' A-4A-'CAS A-A4-A~
REASONS FOR AND AGAINST THE CUMULATIVE sYs-
TEN OF VOTING.
IRON THE REGULAR CORRESPONDENCE oE TIE TTrBCSE }
ALBANY, June 1.-Govcrnor Hi gave hear
ing this afternoon to those who desired TO give their
opinion Of the bill providing for spring cleo
tons in New-York and the election OK four
teen Aldermen in that city by cumu-
lauve voting. There appeared TO oppose the bill
IN behalf or the Tammany Hall Democracy Henry l.
Clinton. General Daniel Z. sckes, JOnu Cochrane.
Robert E. D-yo. J. Nelson smith. I. c. Grain Senator
Reilly and senator PunktL The bill. however. had IT'S
friends Among Who appeared for H. speaking Tor
the City Reform Clue John 3. Pine, James W.
Pryor and Lewis l. Deladet- The Young Mems Demo-
cratic Club vnicn favored the BILL represented by
J. Blocker Miller. W. r. ODwyer and Hamilton b.
Tompkns The subcommittee OF Seventy, ex-sherif
O'Bren's reform organizotion," sent as Its
representatives avorthe BILL John D. Townsend, Jonn
Foley L J. Callahan. J. e. Hyatt and William II. Webb
Hill said he had not read the bill IL but
fair 10 you 70 state" "that my mind Is made
up bill far it provides FOR spring elections
In New-York. Twice in messages TO the Legislature
have favored It. DO not care. therefore, To hear aFu-
ment upon IT,
TC Grain said that the system OF cumuiatng voting
WIS unwise and Impracticable. l. did not provide
way for lis ballots. The bill was un-
constitutional because it did provide for an election
bv a majority OF the even by plurality. L,-s
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General Daniel E sickies said: Governor I'M
York. THIS DiA was passed ~ the I"st hous Oh
the OF the Legislature. IL was very lmperfrctY
considered improvements IN our Government are not
10 DE ootilneu oy ia eu , III yar me-. rte In
Gated municipa affairs rhis hll DIVIDES
iafian voting. you may have al tho
bmed, the hquor-dealer- combined on ON, one
minority rcpresen alton. The Offices should Oe.ons 10
the majority one voter mas one DelloL O"r avs ue-
vino casts more tnan ole vote ior cover
assert that THIS act is contrary to a. our IrAd-
tons" .,-,.--...,
j. Nelson Smith said: Governor this eSa!izes trad
ing the baue OF politics Ia New-YorA.'
Mr. Deyo SAID " Il Is not shown by This bill about
the gins or terms OF tue Aldermen VINO are eectr
under II Is thr term OF me Miyor elected IN 7-o
stated II read IN one way only seven Aldermen WI. s
machinery forrunntnE such Board" ,,,--. d,
"You can safely leave To any B1ard OF Aldermen II
To me-, SAID Governor Hi, the HeYslAS Oh Any
such machinery" 80,
speaking for the Young Mems Democratic Club lie SAID
that the cit OF NewYOrk favored the Dill because
corrupt body. The TWO last Boards OF Aldermen lat
dIsgraced the city oy d.po'hs Of tAe eob mos
No one would say that the district system OF eiecuhg
Aldermen was good one IAe men ~ Ile uIs.rcos u'
did noe meet they did IN the country. IL was ths
AuuOrdealer controlled the politics OF dstrict
Tie ctv should vote "a a unit Then the Board Of Alder
men would be improved. The system Of cumulative
voting mad adopted IN Illinois III the election oi
Ascend. ymen aud had proved successful. -, -.
Governor Hill turning Mr. Miller, asked hm about
the origin OF the cumulative voting PLAN 81 nave nedrd,
said he THAT II was suggested by George Bliss .
non no." SAID Mr.. Miller. at was proposed Dy ystI
We found that the Republican majority III the Assembly
would not pass the bill unless We gave tue hepuDncan
party chance secure representation IN the borl Oh
Aldermen OF New-York When came 70 consider IL
decided that THIS was ilr demand, ana iua1 NV ~
the amendment gave It To Mr. Hanuton, whO' IN
turn. gave Mr. Van Aen ana ne proposed IL anu
al ed II To the BILL - ~,
Mr. Pryor said that The NcU York World or to-day hai
con aimed some prepOsterous arIneticAl calculations
To lie effect that a combination the kepuhiIc3ns
and tnr County Democracy could elect AL the meDDers
OF The Board Aldermen. He showed that me ca Gu
lafiurs erroneous and that Iaminany Han WoulA
have M ority Aldermen II the Republicans ana INC
| County Democracy voted az Ihe hOfId suGS SIZED
II il evident" said the Governor that the ram
MANY Hall artnmetican Is away off IN his figures You
would want kaON IN sucn an election no" TIE oth"c
man Intended 10 throw MS fourteen votes
John Il. Pine argued that the cumulative pan "a-
truly Democratic. IL dd not restrict any one Houl
voting representation III the Government 20
every element OF the population. Moreover IL Wonin
render bribery difficult AT municipal elections
81 wonder" said Governor Hi, tAAt you lLinA !.
worth your while to reform the Aldermen. on nave
stripped them Of All powers. The last they had
have practically taken away from by the provision th~t
the franchises must he sold 10 the h>hest O"of' lucy
have nothing left OF Yl.ue.' 80, - -,
well Governor" reDlied Mr. Delaheld. 4" X ron hat
tnevsn clerk, matter now llic Ne ulu IN lAls o.
fee I think YOU would be xiOus 10 get rid OF hlh
That 4 lust our position. We want To discharge our
Bo.rd OF Aldermen not hire more " that quaii
~ In behalf citizens OF N-w-lOr Irrespective
OF party we earnestly you 10 sign this DILL