The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1886-01-07
THEY KNOW If,
That tho Rtpirled Payne interview Is
True,
Although tho Senator, spstking "UndtI
Protest." Is Induced 10 Say That
II Is "antlrsly False"
spseIAI % tno commeroInI annotLe,

WASHINGTON December 2s There Ia
being made great show OF danlal Of
the Payne interview MI along tha line
since that remarkable atat'meut apDeaI-
ed In the Commercial q zatte and all
Democratic papers like thl New York
sun, New York World, Sc, The Wash.
ingtOu Post itlJ called on TO dr0p iu, aud
did 80 thlB morning with a denial from
Paynp, Now here Is the uuCQaIyOial
dpniaI;
Senator Payne was seen by Post re-
porter YES erddy, aud NJ Arrt declined 10
atOOp u the level of c0nlrAdlcting the
report or noticing ~ bat he wa5 after
ward Induced o sly under protest, how
ever, that the report WAS entirely false.
The gentlemen named, he said, did
call upon mo, ana had some GOnYafaA'
tlon with them; bat Of the charges
against tn President mat are attributed
10 me never uttered word aeyer
stated thlt Mr. Lord was rejected because
he WAS IA lhB habit OF drinking with
General Dlruin Ward The dispatch In
question also credits Senator Payne with
4 threat that hh would opp He llfst laat
aud all The time, tho appointment Of Mr.,
Putnam 10 lh' COusuFhlp ot Homo
lulu. tn Senator taii 10 tho Post le'
porter tha. he h'du0l said and would
not say, uutll the appointment came up
for consideration In tne senate, villa, hls
attitude tOUa.d any appointments
would ba Tie has recommended Mr
Cas- mir Biumann fur tho Otllca VI Treas
uref, but h1 aa not recommended any
candidates Tor tho Postm starhp Nv
Cincinnati"
"stoOp to the level" Ia good-a0 II
there was any level left for HIN 10 sIOop
TO-
Now, thla Ia Mr. Payne "uneQllyOcal
denial He say no did have tne talk,
| He Haya no hRs TecOmm nded Ca4imlr
| b um Inn for Assistant Treasurer That
In what | gaid he aaid, He said he had
not yet recommended anybody for Pdat-
master. That N what | siid h. Nald,
| but that no d6clarGl h6 intanded 10 70,
com mend JOhn .. Riley. Nobody said
| he had recommended anybody Az for
the other matters, he did say that Mr.
Lord WAS dropped because OF hia habits
Of drinking, and that he AMI DufOln
Ward were In the same category Ia that
respect. That IL Just what no said, aud
he said everything else | reported Ia
that remarkable unb09Om 'ng Of hlmaell
tl Lew Bernard, Tom UOgan and D. r.
FleuTy, liz said u great many thi0ga
which shall report IN another letter
ana hN dWelt particularly upon the fact
OF hia having been mlslei by the Preai'
dent In the matter Of the appointments
OF Urner and StaliO.
There is no person OF ordinary sense
who doubts the truth Of the report Of
his conversation, II has too much true
inwardneas In II. Nobody could manu-
factuTe II. Two Democratic Congress
men from Ohio declared 10 mo to-day
that oil the 9enllmenta attributed 10 Mr.
Payne In that report had been espresso
10 them In conversation before by the
Senator. Said Ike Hill, "lf no did moi
say those things TO COgan and Bernard
he has said them to others, aud stronger
than they were put this time"
The fact IL. the interview IL perfectly
correct, and every Democrat here know
| IL, and Payne aud C0gan aud Bernart
know II, aud II Ia the trulhfulness OF 4
ia no bOthers0me.
Now, here Ia tho Joint and several do
NAL OF COgan aud Bernard:
"Mf. Lewla a. Bernard and Hon
Thomas j, COgan called NJ the EaQnlre
bureau to-day They denounced M NJ
unmItlgated lie, all and singular, tn
statements contained In dispatch 4
the Cincinnati Commercial Gazette, ~
suming 10 give u conversation between
them aud Senator Payne. Blth un
equiyocally assert that no such c0nver
aGtiOn took place, that the words attrl
bntod 10 them are lies, ana that tn
whole statement, from beginning I,
end, In based only upon the imagination
Of the writer"
| suspect that the Enquirer repOrte
1xed up the "unmltigatoh lie" part o
that denial. They would hardly darI
10 no far on their own account, know
Ing what they do Of the correctness o
tho report, II they father this bald
headed way Of giving the lie, ehal
consider myself nhsOlyrd from som
promises | made. OF course II was TX
pOCtOd tho matter would be denied b,
COgar aud Bernard 10 gOyo their neck
with Pdyne, ana 10y Payno 10 save hl
neOk with tho President, Bu, II wus no
necessary 10 gnt 10 much into u ley
lines about "llara," aud one can gntol
lrual the public dpoIWOn in Oll1 IN
controversy with thos, gOnllpmrn ~ &
who IN filsiiylng, They deny the con
ycrslton IN tulO,
/ have no degrO 10 aOpm to porlpcut
Senator Payne, but know legliimat
npwa ana give H., Nc, Payne has tfOlbl
enough on ha hands, He la the llrlt I
4 Senator In the nation who was draw
through the HtrrOlB Of one OF The prlnol
pal ciliOi OF hla own state In elllgy b
members Of hiB own party ana hango
from the windows Of party club 70
many hours, with no friend to cut hi
! e0lgY down,
no has political debts to pay to 'th
worst elemOnls OF politics that wra
him round like tho folds Of serpent
ana from which no cannot exlrlCat
hlmaoi struggle no ever no brayoly
Every man who participated In the In
lquily OF hla election comes up for RI
ward aud cannot bO denied. Not man
, daya will pass until from hle own aide
from among those who hanged him 1
enlgy, this will bo brought up 10 him Il
, u more luTid light than ever before,
pAYNg's REsroNslDltttY
Mr.. PaynO Ia m enemy 10 hlg Stat
and TO tho PRECEDENT, IN that hO recon
monda to the high and responsible OH
ceA mon unfit, aud who proved their un
fitness In participating IL the cOnsplrac
aud corruption that put him In the Sen
ato ll0 made II sine qua non for HI
cOuntonanco aud support that The appll
cant ahould be able " read hle I'LL
cloar 10 parllclpancy IN tho infamy o
hie election, When has no brought any
thing but dlacredit upon the preslden
and hla party In any appointment pre-
! cured by hlm2 The action OF the poOpl
Of Canton speaks for itself ~ TO that h
= l A -. A -. -. A a.