The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1886-04-09

SnOulu remain IN Ireland. Inc func-
tons which it was proposed TO
withdraw from the cognizance OF
the legislative body were three
grand and principal functions,
viz: Everything which related to the
crown; all that which belonged to de-
fences; tae army, navy and the entire
organization of the armed force; and
our foreign and colonial relations. It
would not be competent to pass laws
for the establishment or endowment of
any particular religion (chsers.) AS to
trade and navigation. IL would be a mis-
fortune to Ireland to be separated from
England. The Irish parliament would
have nothing 10 do with coinage or the
creation Of the legal tender; the subject
of postofiice would be left to the judg-
ment of Parliament, though government
inclined to view that il would be more
convenient to leave the postT aster
matters in the hands OF the Postmaster
General. Quarantine and one or two
other subjects were left in the same
category.
The next subject he had to approach
was that of the composition of the pro-
posed legislative body. The bill pro-
posed TO introduce two orders. which
would sit and deliberate together with
the right OF voting separately on any
occasion on the demand of either body,
which would be able 10 interpose a veto
upon any measure for limited time.
either until dissolution or for
three years. The orders would be
constituted as follows: First, there
were twenty-eight representative Peers,
who could not continue to sit in the
House of Lords after the representa-
iives of the Irish people left the House
OF Commons They would have the
option OF sitting as portion OF the first
order in the Irish Parliament with the
power of sitting for. life. He proposed
that with the twenty-eight Peers now
in the House of Lords, there should SIT
seventy-tYe representatives. elected by
! the Irish people. With regard to the
I powers of election, the consistency
would be composed OF occupiers OF the
value OF E25 and upwards and they
would be elected for ten years The
property qualification of these rep
resentatiyes would be 200 an
mail value on the capital value of
Zoo. Mr.. Gladstone said he proposed
j that the 10l Irish members in the
House of Commons should be members
of the Irish Parliament and whilst the
/ first order of the legislative body would
consent of 103 members, the second
order void consist of 206. IL was pro-
posed to retain the viceroy, but he
would not be their representative party
or quit the office with an outgoing gov
eminent. The Queen would be en-
powered to delegate 10 him any prerog-
atives she now enjoyed or would enjoy.
The religious disability nov existing,
which makes Roman Catholics ineligi-
I BILE to office would, be removed. In the
future judges would be appointed BY
the government, be paid out OF the
consolidated fund anu be removable
only on the joint address of the two
orders. The constabulary would re
main under the present term OF services
and under their present authority.
With respect to- the civil service, the
government did not think their case
was the same as that of the constabula-
tory and the transfer of civil service to
the legislative body would effect a great
ecOaomy. He, therefore, thought IL
would be wise 10 authorize the civil ser
wants now serving to claim the pension
that would be due TO their Offices, pro-
vided they served five years IN
order to prevent Inconvenience
from the rapid transitions OF the service.
and at the close of that time both part
les should be free TO negotiate afresh.
That was all. Mr.. Gladstone stated,
that he had TO say on the subject of the
new Irish Constitution.
The proportion OF Imperial burdens
which he had to propose that Ireland
should bear, was as to II. He thought
that the new Irish Parliament ought TO
stand with a balance 20 its credit. but
the only fund that il would have If left
alone would be solitary go 900 from
the Irish Church fund. He knew no
way OF providing the necessary money,
except by carving il out of this years
budget, and he proposed that in the
future Ireland should pay one-fifteenth
towards the Imperial expenditure.
On careful inquiry, he stated with con- |
hdence, not as in actual demonstration,
but as a matter of certainty. with re-
gard to the far greater Oortion, that
the Irish receipts would gain from |
Great Britain a sum that would amount l
20 81 400, 600 per annum. He then en-
tered into an elaborate calculation of
the total income and expenditure Of /
Ireland, in the course OF which he /
stated that total charge to Ireland as
an imperial contribution he put !
at E3,2i2,0O0 per annum. He /
estimated the total expenditure OF |
Ireland, including the payment as a
sinking iund for the Irish portion OF the |
national debt, at e., 94s, 600 per annum.
Against this there was a total income
E40i, 600. With regard to the history |
of the land question, 10 man could |
know that he had followed il from year
to year, beginning with the Devon COM
mission, the appointment of which, in 1
the speakers opinion, did the highest
honor to the memory of Sir Robert /
Peel. (Gheers.) He did not deny |
the good intentions OF the
British Parliament to pass good
laws for Ireland, but. he said,
in order to work out the purposes
of the Government there is something /
more in this world occasionally re-
qHired than the passing Of good laws. |
Hear hearD Fifty years ago the |
colonies were governed from Downing |
Street. The result was the home gov
eminent was always in conflict with |
those countries which had legislative
assemblies. We had continual shocks
with the colonies then. But all this has
been changed. The British Parliament
tried to pass good laws for its colonies.
but the colonies said: We don't want
your good laws; we want our own good
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