The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-05-15
MI. Dole moved it be amended to read

$4,uuD-
The item passed as IN the bill.
Printing certificates OF deposit, 81 600.
Mr.. Dickey moved to amend it by in
sorting $3.50. The appropriation last ses-
sion was 81 500, and only 500 had been
spent He could not see the necessity for
such large amount.
His E1cellency the Attorney General
said if there be q necessity for issuing Ger
tifcates there must be an appropriation.
If it was not wanted it would not be spent
There must be q fund TO meet any con-
tingency that might arise.
His Excellency Mr.. Quick moved that
the item be deferred until the next consid-
Grafton of the Appropriation bill.
Mr. Castle moved as an amendment that
the item be deferred until after the House
had acted upon the Currency bill
The motion as amended was carried.
Stamps and dies, $500.
Mr. PaehaoLe moved it be amended to
read 500.
Mr.. Castle said that long time ago,
when writing for a newspaper in this
hall during the session, he was puzzled to
know what this item meant. Since then
he had gone round the social circle and was
still ignorant.
His Excellency Mr.. Quick said there
was an internal revenue stamp act. There
was quite revenue derived from stamps.
The latter are of several denominations.
The dies are very expensive. He knew
that three postal stamps and dies cost $500
each. 1t was impossible TO say exactly
what will be required.
Doahaola uithd raw motion and
the item passed at $500 as in the bill.
Dog tags. 81 600.
Mr.. Dickey thought this an excessive
amount. Fifty dollars ought to cover it.
He would move that the item be reduced
to $3.50.
His Excellency Mr.. Gulick said he would
second the motion if Mr.. Dickey was ready
to take the contract. The tags were let
out at contract, and cost 3 and 80 cents
each. 1t was impossibieto take a census
of all the dogs in the Kingdom, and conse-
quently nothing definite could be told the
contractor as to how many tags were
wanted. There are two establishments
fully equipped to do the work, so there was
a reasonable competition.
Mr.. Paehaole moved it be 5000.
On vote being taken there was a tie,
the Chairman giving his casting vote in
favor of the item as in the bill.
Salary of messenger, 81 900.
Mr. Hayselden moved it be increased to
81 200.
Mr.. Thurston thought the Minister ought
to be instructed to name the amount of
money required to pay messenger. He
opposed the increase. 4
Mr.. Kalua was i'll favor of the increase.
Give the Ministers all the money they
want. Some members came here for no
other purpose than to increase salaries. If
the Ministers cannot rake out the money
fast enough with their hands give them
shovel
The item passed as in the bill, on a divis-
ion.
JAPANESE IMMIGRATION FUND.
Interest on Japanese Fund, $1,000
Mr. Cecil Brown would like some infor-
nation on this item. 1t was the first that
he knew of the Government borrowing
money from Japan.
Mr. Dickey was also anxious for informa-
ton.
His Excellency Mr.. Gulick said that last
session an Act was passed establishing a
Post Office Savings Bank. For various
reasons the bank had not been established
to this hour. In the meantime conven
ton was introduced between Japan and
Hawaii. One of the terms was that 25 per
cent should be collected by the Bureau of
immigration of each mans earnings and
put into the savings bank, but as the bank
had not been established the money was
4 FT,y.
this course was therefore definite. All de-
tails would be found in the report of the
Bureau of immigration.
Mr.. Thurston said if the Government
was morally bound to pay $1,000 to the |
Japanese Fund he would not oppose the
vote. He wanted to vote intelligently, |
however. He moved that the item be de-
ferred until the report referred to was be-
fore them.
In answer to question His Excellency
Mr.. Gulick said the interest was at the rate
of five per cent and the Foreign Minister
called attention to his report containing
letter from Mr.. Irwin, Consul General for
Japan, to the Japanese Government on the
subject of the immigration Convention, in
which that rate of interest was specified.
Mr.. Dole asked what article in the Treaty
contained mention of this fund.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said there
was no mention of it in the Convention,
but at page 143 of the appendix to the re-
pot of the Minister of Foreign Affairs it
would be found that it was referred to in
the protocol between himself as such Min
lister and the Japanese Commissioner. 1t
was true protocol was not convention,
but it was the expression of the under
standing arrived at between the represent
atives of the two Governments upon the
questions under consideration, and was
binding upon both. In taking the custody
of this fund (which was to be drawn upon
in cases of sickness or when any Jap
anese entitled to any of it was about
to leave for his homel, the Government
was simply acting up to the understanding
between himself and the Japanese Com
missioner The Government of Japan
looked to the Hawaiian Government to
undertake the guardianship of this fund.
Small drafts had already been made upon
it for the purposes named, and would con-
tinue TO be made from time to time as oc-
casion might arise; but the understanding