New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-01-26

Indifferent as 1t the witness who was endur-
ing torture apparcntly-not he
Estate what you did with regard to the Madison
ave. property A.-Mr. Fairchild and made an ar
oNAfter YOU had made that arrang Mt did you
the Generals Al him almost every day.
Odd you communica'e 10 MIN What parssih you
o.-What was tho next step Al cannot tell; did
The witne.s finally acknowledged that contract
drawn up, some named Yuron making the contract
witness knew that General shaer's property in New
Jersey He had had several
with General Shaer about it but could not exactly
state" what General shaler said nor could he exactly
state what he said but after much probing he replied
" told him that when that YurOn property Nladlson-
ave- lots) sold would take the mortgages up Tor
him"
Q.-You were witness before the Gibbs Committee.
We're you indicted by the Grand Jury for refusns to
answer about the setransacuons TO that committee A.
Q~Did you enter into agreement with the District,
would come forward aud testify about this case A.
Yes.
was sold and the money paid A-somcwhere III inc
month Of December, 1854 -. .
Q.-IIow much money did you get : Al have not
fixed it-some where about 81 1 900 or 81 5000.
Q-From whom did you get the money ' M. on:
OF the trustees by giving him 81 1000 Ia one checK ana
had satisfaction pieces made for each OF them
Q-what did you do with those sat.iaction & pieees "
0"Do You recoIlecG bang before the Gibbs Com
when Won We're before the committee did you see
General shaler Ayes. at various places down Town
QNDid you have any. conversation with him about
your testimony A-fes: x,,o,, ho ,o ,o, T
1Wss Inc substance Of the conversation that you
would stick together A-Ies.
Odd you stick A.-As long as could .
Suppressed litter went Though ,he court room
at this answer. and even GonoTal shaier
smiled srmy S wn' relax HT from their set @ eH
throughout the hearing.
The witness acknowledged that at the time thg EioPa "a
some open iclds, and told him that lie wanted those
satisfaction pieces back ,,,,,
Odd you tell him why you wanted them PACK A.
told him that wanted them ont Of l eHSoSe o that did
When % did be give them back to youi An his
house in Forty cighth-st, snort time aferward ,
Q.-What time AIN the eyening-probaoIy ABOUT
9~fow did you ontcri Alt the basement.
0-Wnat took place there Al took the satisfac-
ton pieces and the other of Us threw them III tho
S'0@vhat S'S.ov was said about it, Al cannot tell
C,nnot Won give any of the conversation that oc
curred between while engaged III the peasant occ-
patton Of getting these satisfaction pieces 1ut o. ihe
wayi A. On q tone of feeble resentnIenp-l don't know
| that it pleasant occupation. -, ,,-,.,
Q-HOw long were you win Gener"I shaIer A
| 0WCannot You give any OF the conversation Al
O-Did YOU write letter about the interest on the
mortgages Al did, soIncwhore about that timr.
Something about the interest the mortgages uot bolng
paid that should write him letter in response to
4
| O-How was the letter datedl A-Somo time back
| i'm tie month of January. believe.
O-Wnat contained In the letters which you wrote
General Shaleri A.Somcthins about as the interest
had not been paid Wiling to take per cent on the
| $4,000 Invested. 80
Q.-What were the contents Of tho letter winch you
| received from General Shaler A.-About the same
thjng-about back interest and paying the interest
| about once a year - ,.-
O-What ala General Shter state 10 yOu the reason
| why you should enter into this correspondence
and; alitedate the letters Al can't recoi!ect what II
vas but there was conversation OF the same character
and The object to keep on record for the Interest
O-Were YOU engaged ~ prcsoni ing aT other plots OF
ground to General Smaller To be taken mp by the AfnOy
| BoarI FOR arnory purposes A.-fes. Sir
| O-IIow many other pieces beside THIS plot A
| There IN cnt have been hG!f dozen.
| O-Wcre any OF them actually taken hy tho civ
| A.-Ihcy were.
| O-IiOw many. A.-Iwo.
6-Wcre they presented by you TO the Arnnry Hoard
in pursuance OF Arrangement made by yOn with lht
| Gcuerall A.-They were.
| Odd YOU make money Out OF these transactions
Colonel Bliss objected to this question and his Objection
was susaned as his objection to the question
whether the money made in these TWO last trahsacto'
| had been divided with General SLIcr.
At one part Of his examination tho witness In his HN
trene nervousness, snapped his thumb ana Niger re
| ueatcdly until Colonel Fellows suggested that tht
ssnapping accompaniment prevented the hearing OF
| An Adjournment was taken till IL o'clock today.