New-York tribune., 1886-06-08

land for the management of Irish affairs
aprrehena It to be beyond s @ That sn,tsy tsS sna
absolutely free cheers and that II they think there
fuller effect may be siven to the principles of the the
bill they are at liberty to di,pla;e "a aouht iae
Well the Ciovernnent have certain enengemenis
They have engagement "a to taxation for me
Intervention of the Irish memhers to the terms m o,
which need not refer. They nave also broken an
on the ,sroSsn .m % Ser rsaen CON IN
| the treatment Of Imperial subjects generally:
do not entirely remove the 24Ih clause ana a"9ps OPP
other sequentia amendments connected WIN ~ Dne
amendments to the bill. OF course as 70 the
freedom OF members to suggest other amenamen,as % ~,
no question that duty an interval Is granted
If the crc5@'ta3Ssi Of the; pFessst sss S
With amendments at an early date in the autumn Of
bin with every 1s se
the attainment OF its end and we are perfectly
meanest. basest act on the part of the Govern
pretend that they have plan OF reconstruction
time when. from the very of the cause !.
must be obvious that 1t is perfectly nssrs esraI
SIR so much then for the system and freedom Of the
ernment to consider their amendments and DO every
aas 5ss they can with The VIEW S and to add to
those fine grounds which have on fCrne5 ,sr1cb
occasion been so clearly explained and from "n'o"
Sir Michael Hicks.Beach said that the question Or
Ulster is question OF principle but INT must ,ssrS saS
s%presned fefaTa on 70 the eHo snhieet
that plan for the treatment Of Ulster Major Sor
s@par"fon Of lister from the rest Of Ireland Cheers
must say that Mr. Parnell has entered into careful
and elaborate argument the subject of - sen am,
ds'Ss rSe cSae g9 hsT hs eTenns and
must say that thar was statement 'ut w9itn ~
saw subject
aud in debates Of this kind we have at umlei aHi
snould be little better understood than they are
when I hear speech from Mr. Johnston ,S1, ahS bs
Is some under the pous conviction tnat loyalty Is
innate in Irish Protestant. and Sn dl'oynTs bsy,ays
nat Mr Johnston Is under the i%Prei1ie5S % Irte5
who Protestans and those who are not Protestah
lCheers MOI Well It is charge which has oeem mrs9
what was the state OF loyalty in Ireland a. the
Of the SD century As sc6S SSas born no
Ioitic life In his time Dean swIIt oulS sp'se se
9sr to ipes %F sm iea ana as being
loyal or. dsloya- But as to the e,o Gosr Io.r
century, will read what BurEe has SAID on ,,ne tae
subiect The date Of y is lto5 bs III snp,eet OF
Di,1fecfIoa had cast deep roots ,,o-,iR IN 'S9 oi
lie lower and middle classes OF the whole whole
Protestant part OF Ireland. farneo & @ moro or
less tainted.
What has happened since The Protestants. not hav-
ing grievances complain o. became loyal. proyokeh.
princnles These are words and IDEAS which show us
what is the way in which we to promote loyalty
and what is the way in which We can destroy H.
THE QUESTION OF FEDERATION.
Another subject upon which will only dwell ior
a moment that OF federation Many gentlemen n the
House are greatly OF this dea and the object
they have in view is noble one. l will not
admit M Hicks-Beach the justice Of the dsparage-
ment he casts upon the British Empire do not
consider that this is loosely constructed
Empre but admit that means
can 10 devised for establishing more
active connection with our distant possessions that Is an
object vel worthy OF every noble. enlightened man. It
is IA popu idea gave no opinion upOn 1t suspect
II is beset with difficulties than have yet been
examined ami brought 10 light But what wish To oo-
serve rs tar ss this BIZ conce ned H tnat thls u
whatever its rights wrOngsi Other respects i IN
quesuonably step, and an important step, III inc
Iiy seems e-tabnshed clearly the elementary
proposition that whether this Parliament he the I'M
peral Parliament not the Imperial Iaridine nt'
1t is possessed before the union and before tnc
Grattan's Parliament. OF supremacy which Is
abso.uie aud in the Things inaiienable. 1t
could not part with IL II II % ~0nld ,,, am ~
constituting legislature Ireland we DO "a we az
when constituted legislature III Canada AMI
Australia namely, deyoive an lmpOrtant pordon OK
power. We devoived II with the view in canada. ana
nope shall DO Ireland, not to establish par
and = nominal. but real AMI praci cay ihdepeh'-
ent manag cement OF her own affairs cheers.
obect to. the thing desire and hope and
mean to DO. IL Is obvious that the question
deal with questions tnat may arse wnen me
Imperial Government. notwitnstahainS ths gen
eral division OF AFFAIRS may he by the obi.
cations or Imperial rulers compelled TO Intervene
Wen. ny answer Is that TINS qlesio has rece'yed YEA
experience OF the last foriy Or my years. tnau
mon.d won. Of eyer H'hv awySr owevsr eminent Wien
the Canadian Legislature was founded thls diihculty
reSsiion and ny sell aud Brough am Of the
opinion. know not now whether we we've were r2hi tp OF
.vrong, that the honor o. the crown MAJ a1 neSn
invaded by proposition TO grant III O"nIHa L'1a
who had been Rebels and had incurred these losses as
rebels Lord BIouG ham made motion IN the house o
4o.-s ~ - , .'Iiec III. itnr,rfanf t,,rt OF
Commons on the same subject Ine llnpoI.an' laa' %
Inc de5ale consisted IA the declarations ura"u from Tue
down what c"hceNo 10 DC rue ah. sVi'u - -
TINE In terms which. believe. may Dc IHr,,
dealing wIth this question. You VII, however. allow
me read the passDge. wnich Is not long one SpeaA-
lug in tins House JEue II. l-4. LORD Russell said
al entirely agrce WIN the right honorable gentleman
II ia. indeed IN conformity with the sentiments e1
are winch must be left to tl- decision Ol
the responsiOle ministers Of the Crown. tnere arc
-afety OF the country are concerned and IN sucn
Colonies and the utmost temper aud hrmness
in this country. l fully admit that there are
soes ON to say that Earl L gin has received
Instructions from the Government OF ths county
rectou the Crown questions that affect tue In
peral policy aud national LonOr he Is ehtrey lily
taken IN mat assumption.
HARD NAMES FOR HOME RULE MEASURES.
THAT Justly aud practically sets forth the practical
mode in which this quest!on. difficult in the abstract
Will be settled as has been settled. We have
found 1t easy TO reconcile the rishts OF Can"ua
with the rights the Imperial Parliament It Will be
found not more difficult to reconcile
the rtyhts OF Ireland with those OF tho Imperial
Governments Constantly hear the woFds
'Unioniss and 'separatists but what want to kDo"
il. who are the Unionists cheersl and who are the
separatists this bill in newspapers OF great CT
culation and elsewhere described the Separation
bl, Cheers. Members OF the opposition adopt
that style and make the description their own
take no notice Of those cheers. SPEAK
Of other quarters out or doors Speaking OF