The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-08-25

/ thought the minority report presented the
! proper facts, and should vote for it.
4 Mr.. Kauhane said that if a petition had
/ been sent in by people. complaining that
they had been oppressed by Government
officers, it was in the province of the Leg
islature 10 inquire into the matter. He
was sorry there had been any occasion for
such an investigation. During the last
few years they had heard Of Government
and Ministerial candidates. 1t never used
70 be 50, and would be much better if the
Government left the elections alone, and
let the people elect their own candidates.
Mr.. Richardson said that on last Mon
day he stated he was not in favor of indef-
nitely pOstponng the report, because he
had not had time TO read it over. Messrs.
Kalua and Thurston, who got the report
up, tried all they could 10 get me defeated
at the last election. They had perfect
right TO do so, and he was not going to let
his private feelings influence his action in
the House After calmly reading the evil
dence, and celebrating over it, if he were
a Judge or jury he could not say the
charges had been brought home to Mr..
Gibson
Mr. PaehaOle gave the history of the
case He claimed the Legislature had
right to inquire into the conduct of a Min
lister as member of the House.
Mr.. Kaunamano spoke at some length
in favor of the minority report.
Mr.. Dole said the discussion to-day had
been more to the point, the remarks not
being so personal as on the previous day.
He disapproved of the personal remarks
about a mans looks and his private life,
which had nothing to do with the ques-
ton. That kind of discussion was new to
this House. He had never heard of any
native Hawaiian INDUCING in such discus
sion. That was left to street hOodlums
and boat boys. There are personalities
which were proper. In this matter under
consideration, that there was remedy in
Courts of law, was no answer TO the right
of this House to investigate. The most
difficult point was that His Excellency Mr..
Gibson was not acting in an official capac-
ity. But they are justified in inquiring into
the acts of an official. If these charges
against His Excellency are true, the As
Sembly has a right to censure. 1t would
be wrong policy to lay down that these
charges could not be investigated. Mr.. Glib
son had washed his hands of the whole
thing. His son-in-law, Mr.. HaySelden,
managed the Lanai ranch, and the stock
man and luna were relatives. Mr.. Gibson
and MIR. Hayselden live in the same house
in Honolulu. The latter may attend to
the correspondence, but he receives his in
structions from Mr.. Gibson. If the man,
Morehead, wrote to the agent, Mr.. Hay
selden, about the two year arrangement,
that makes Mr.. Gibson responsible. This
House was in tine position of a jury trying
this case on the evidence. If they find
that Morehead wrote to the agent and Mr..
Gibson did not know anything about it, then
the minority report should be adopted. He
thought this matter of the greatest i'm
pOrtance, as it affected the rights of in
dividuals who EJECT members to this
House.
Mr. Thurston said the reason he took the
floor and spoke so strong on the previous
day was because of the attempt made to
indefinitely postpone the report. He did
not care whether the report was adopted
or not. All he had to do was to carry out
his promise to the voters and he had done
that. He denied that he had shown any
vindicativeness in the matter, but if there
was any such rascality going ON as brand
ing the poor people, why MolOkai would be
heard from as long as he was in MolokAi's
seat Whether Mr.. Gibson ordered it to
go on, or knew it was going on, was for the
House to say. What was proved was that
it was done and done on his farm, and was
still being done. These are circumstances
so strong as to justify any reasonable man
in saying he was guilty.
The President reminded Mr.. ThurstOn
that he was pursuing the same course as
on the previous day with regard to nam
ing members. 1t was not parliamentary.
Mr.. ThurstOn said he had noticed the
same course had been pursued on all sides.
However, he would remember in the flu
ture. He did not know anything of the
previous history of the Attorney-Gen
The President called Mr. Thurston to
order as the Attorney-General's history
was not before the House.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare asked that Mr..
Thurston be allowed to proceed.
Mr.. Thurston said the question was
whether the Minister of the Interior was
guilty or not guilty. When they go to the
expense of getting an Attorney General
from abroad he thought they should get a
better style of law than that propounded
by him yesterday. The statement that
the report of the committee was in his
was not true The Hawaiian
version was the original, and he assisted in
the copying of the English so as to help
the interpreter.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare claimed as par
law that when any committee
report was handed in it became the prop
erty of the Assembly. They could table
it, adopt it or indefinitely postpone it. The
report was, in the first place, manifestly
biased. Secondly, its conclusions were not
by the evidence. Thirdly, the
were guilty of giving it to a
C'Gazette'O before it came in
the House Fourthly, the committee had
published an unparliamentary document.
Mr. Kalua said the reference to the news
paper was untrue.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare asked Mr.. Ka-
lua how it was the report was printed i'll
the Gazette" this morning? 1t is in
form, and looks as if it had been
in the hands of the printers about three