Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-06-08

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SIuue Ulster in Dublin Parliament"
liarnelllte cries OF 'Nor' E'NOW sThe
cIauses relating to taxation and finance
were also" continued Mr.. Goschen, ''in-
herent defects In the bill.v
HOME RULE AND LAND PURCHASE.
he asked il the home rule bill was in
separately tied up with the land purchase
scneme. L"OhW "Ohp and cheers
ne mad seen some correspondence in
Whlch the Premier stated that the sub
Jects were inseparable in the mind of the
government. At the moment the word
lnsepara0le did not convey anything
clear and definite, and the speaker was
entltled to know whether II the home rule
PHI were returned in the autumn 1t would
De accompanied by the land purchase bill,
WheretO it had been said to be Inseparably
tied. He would also like to know whether
any ray of light regarding Ulster had
penetrated the open mind OF the govern
ment. Were the members of the House to
remain ignorant as to whether the govern
ment intended to ignore listers earnest
pleadings? Opposition cheers and Irish
cries OF "What U lister ?''1 "Why, the same
Ulster" hr. Goschen said, ''that the Pre-
mler referred to when he introduced the
DILL" Opposition cheers.
CLAUSE "a.
No hope had been rendered that clause
"a would be dropped, and this meant the
olsAppearance permanently of the Irish
members from the imperial Parliament.
The Premier had said at the Foreign Office
that he saw way to plan to adjust the
difficulty, but he never said what that
plau was. II the House was to hear IL
1t would be only before the conclusion
OF the debate, when they would not
have time to carefully consider it.
Cheers. This was important, as the
plan was intended to affect votes. Irish
representation in the House of Commons
led directly TO the question of the sOver-
eighty of Parliament, which il not de-
stroyed would be impaired and weakened.
They were told that there was power of
the first order in the Irish Parliament.
he doubted whether they would ever hear
more OF the first order.
THE VETO POWER.
He SAID that the veto power existed,
constant exercise of which would induce
intolerable friction and the last state
would be worse than the first. Until they
knew the governments intentions regard
ing the land bill and Ulster, and what the
first orders power of the veto would in
VOlVe be was unable to see what protec-
tiOn would be given to the minOrities. He
did not believe the PrOtestants would be
prosecuted. He believed the Irish mem
bers were sincerely anxious to prevent
the clerical ascendancy aimed at Irish
cries of Wl-aimed at the priesthood
OF every church. Cheers and cries OF
"NOP]. The clergy OF all churches
aimed at educational ascendancy.
TREMENDOUS STRUGGLE.
The Irish members find themselves en-
barked in a tremendous struggle with the
Catholic priesthood. until now itTequired
the imperial ParlIament's moderating in
fiuence to deter PrOtestants and Catholics
from making extreme demands. They
were unable to ignore differences of creed,
class and race. A neutral hand was
necessary to deal with the rival sections.
as in the case OF the recent difficulty in
Belfast. The bill contained elements Of
commercial, financial and Legislative tric-
tiOn. The establishment OF a separate
executive would lead to friction and sepa-
ration. Difficulties would arise under
the foreign enlistment act, and in cases
like that of the Alabama the imperial
Parliament would be responsible for the
acts OF the Irish executive and yet be pow
less to control the executive.
CANADHs CASE.
The Canadian executive was now in
trouble with America. England was re.
spOnsible for Canada and had to settle
the difficulty. The Premier's friends had
not cOndescended to reply to that argu-
ment. Suppose discomfort arose, culmi-
mating in agitation and ul-
innate separation. The men,
hers must not forget Mr.. Nor
Iey's warming, that II discomfort arose in
Ireland Irish Americans would place ma
terIal resources at Ireland's command.
II Parliament parted with its executive
power IN Ireland and alienated it's friends
and made them bitter foes and placed the
executive power in new aud untried
hands, how would they meet this diff
cultyI Suppression by force was held up
as remedy. Sir William Harcourt
pointed out that Grattau's Parliament
was more independent than the one now
proposed. Was the Irish executive at
the time OF Grattan's Parliament so in
dependent that it was by the executive
that the two countries were held together
r"Hear! Hearw from Mr.. Gladstone and
cheers.I
UNITY OF THE NATIONS.
The opponents OF the bill wanted the
two countries to be held together. The
Premier would not admit that it was
their duty to keep the two countries to-
gether. Here Mr.. Gladstone expressed
dissent1 There was no security that the
unity which could be maintained in Grat-
tan's time with an Independent Parlia-
ment but dependent executive could be
maintained now with the Parliament and
executive independent in Ireland.
II the storms which alone pre-
vented the French invasion
of Ire,and in 1876 had not occurred
sir william Harcourt might not have
been able 10 appeal with such
triumphant emphasis to the unity
of the two countries. He
protested against the Premier's statement
tbat the bin was opposed by n class and
its dependents which was described Dy
the newspapers as "a swaggering class"
lie did not think that Mr.. Chamberlain
and Rev. DIR. Spurgeon came within this
description. Cries of "OhP'l
A SERIOUS FIRE.
Continuing. he said that be saw his
allusions had created discomfort, but the
matter was important. The Premier had
kiudled a serious fire TO get enough steam
10 pass the bill. The Premier had said
10 himself: "Some old Tatters bold the
frame of the building securely together
Burn theml Steam we must have or we
cannot pass this bill" Loud cheers. lie
urged the members not 10 MAIN the con.
stitution OF which they were only
life trustees. No foreign country, he
said, ever had a parliament like the
British Parliament. AS lie trustees
they we're bound to hand over their RlOri-
ous possessiOn without detrIment 10 those
canning after them. In conclusion he
said; 81 implore the House by the tradi-
tIon of which we are heirs. by the ooltRa-
tions OF duty and honor, by our hopes for
the future OF the empire, by our duty 10
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