Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-11-02
LOWELL. INTERVIEWED.
The Minister Chats on tho = neen
and Her statesmen.

and Her statesmen.
NEW YORK, Oct. 25.-Mr. ia mes nus
Hawaii is interviewed at Length by
I,I;on Hawthorne III to-days World.
r,o ex-Nlnister to England wss IN a talk
hrror and. after sb)wing Mr..
r[,,orne the beauties of mis- country
mace near Boston, DeerloC1 + 81 Us NC
Pttod at length on English poiltics, arG
Cn d literature, winding up WIN the Iol-
Suu ~, ,nnroyal of MIR. Phelps treatment
Of rorndike Rice:
n0b Mr.. Phelps was in me rlghl--uh-
,Ste,dIv in the rightr' replied MIR. Low
W dramatically. sit would have been
Sraach of official PROPHECY 10 40 otutr-
riso The attack upon Mr.. Bay ara was
or,v violent, but the fellow didn'
nortUre TO sign his name. IL was more
nn nriyate affair of Mr.. Phelps. Mr.
i p9aa,s present claim to distinction cam
nt be disconnected from his editorsnlp
NV Nv tho North American, and he was
VI tba wrong to expect
"nr7rtarv courtesy under those clrcum:
chances. The correspondence puoilsneu
ras clever on both sides, but MI. Phelpa'
Later was conclusive and very wen writ
Thare was ONLY Que word in 1t that
Injected 10; be spoke OF extending a
a.nr;osv That phrase is to me like red
+o a hull. / wrote to him the other
%ov and entreated him never to extend a
" a"grtesv again ?" and Mr.. Lowell laughed
heartily.
HIS ROYAL ACQUAINTANCES.
Naturally Mr.. Hawthorne asked some
oa+inns concerning the Queen and the
prInco of Wales. Mr.. Lowell considers
,bat Victoria has the regard OF tAe nalon.
ond thinks that the Prince viii be allowed
to reign if he outlives his mother, ana ne
V-sn ,fxv
"She is very tougn'' VI VIC i1"O0' ~ =
Lowell remarks:
lovalI. CHEFS immensely fat! and his
Iabors. such az they are, are cbleHy phys
teal. He delivers very good speeches, put
Think there's no doubt they are written
for him. They are written by man VINO
used to get up the addresses delivered oy
the late Duke of Albany-Prlnce Leopold,
! remember reading one OF lhe,e
and thinking, well, this IS really
roodv But it turned out not to be
aonold,s goodness. There was a good
deal of voluntary make-belieYe in the
nonular attitude toward Leopold He
was always spoken of IN the newspapers
ssa sort of paragOn-a Marcellus. But
when be died and the Queen ordered
mourning for year, | spoke to some one
who knew him well about the universal
regret that SeemGu u Db Atlbs anu ne
laughed and said: He was the greatest
cad ever knew in my life!"
Speaking of the Queens personal power
the Ex-Minister says:
"Still. she no doubt has personal in6u-
ence. as is natural, for she is woman OF
sound sense and great political expert
eDce. think it was she who brought
about the reconciliation between the Com
mons and the Lords three years ago. l
saw Salisbury two days before the recon
citation took place, and he said very
positively that nothing of the kind would
be admitted. He said 1t was better the
Lords should perish than yield, and
that be would consent to no compromise.
But. during the next two days the Queen
sent tor him and sent for Gladstone, ana
am sure she worked them. She made
the agree
SUMMING Up GLADSTONE.
Being asked his opinion of Gladstone,
MIR. Lowell ceverly lntimates the great
Liberal sratesman's personal power:
"He believes in himself; he is sincere.
He is very resoute and rather unman.
ageable. The Queen is reported to have
said of him thai ne was the only one OF
her Ministers who had treated her as il
she were neither sovereign nor a
woman l don't yOuch for the truth oil
thar, but he prefers his own way
rec0llect once, at the time
Of the Ascot races, number
\ Ofmen, several of whom were in the Cabi
J net, wanted to 90, but doubted whether
they could eyade the Cabinet meeting APP
pointed for that day. Finally one of them
gave me a waggish look and said: Il DOM
see why it wouldn't do just as we'll if the
IT, .. NJ. had the Cabinet meeting alone
10 himself. Much of his power may be
due to the sincerity of his convictions"
"a speaking OF Lord harrington Mr.. Lowell
n thought the respect for him was very
Widespread and genuine:
r. He is good kind of Englishman. He
gentleman. He understands the
house. He has great frmness of charac
Do ler' Inc pack OF his Leck, straight anC
N 'uck, gives an impress on OF stubborn
n, ness. never saw ANYTHING TO compare
NV with 1t except President Cleveland's
harrington stands in the succession toi
- ue Premiership; the only danger is thai
" S may al any moment be turned into the
~ house OF Lords by the death of his father
lle Duke Is now Is years old, but be il
suIl strong man and may live a Ions
"a "AHe' Lord Hartington's detection was
" serious loss to Gladstone. and SO wa,
IS Of l.' NuahOerlain's, who is a man OF great
IVe"l&ence and force. Chamberlain IL
es, slO very honest man and has broa(
VaN eNs' But Gladstone is not an easy man
linz :, "ionR WIN unless you agree will
"" -, LOWELL AS A HOME RULER.
lle conversation turning into Irisl
d. ala'rs' Mr.. Lowell referred to his actor
FORK S1s .,g the American citizens OF Irisl
t nT. arrested by the British authorities
Lue feeling against me was bitter.
ar, ,ao"' and was well abused in the news
ae5s' Even my life was threatened
auaed, with smile. ''but the oddes
la. Oh 1t was thar was then, as | an
Seg sS";, sound home ruler, though the,
sSt r oa know 1t; only, couldn't see now I
, ,oi. could be a citizen of America and o
ria f,S,u1u at the same time. Secretar,
sHnghuysen was weak, and | tool
erie, one aGIion did on my own re
Beli wwuS1lolllty, because believed If | a sket
:, i've wouldn't venture &c do IL. me
eor' ,'u VIII nave home rule, think, but il
o Nv. iuIhll all their anticIpations
Nr an ou a tnlng, their own men will govern
" tr b mucu more strictly than they have
al = VI uctn governed hv -