New-York tribune., 1886-05-05
DOOM OF THE LAND BILL.
LABoUCHEREs OPINIONS ON HOME RULE.
ATTITUDE OF THE RADICALs-MR CHAMBERLAIN
IDEAS AND FOLLOWING.
my CAnI,E TO THE TRIBUNE.I

Copyrfcht; lsso, North America" tdo'' Nei'sco.
p,p,s Nav 4.-ncnry Labouchere has sent TO
Tur TRIBUNE representative mere s'"Ve'''"' 49,, %
va,dinc Mr.. Giadstones Irish proposals Inc
Radicals ne declares arc opposed 70 the Lahd pi'''
I'M, they will support the measure LOT the govern
ment of Ireland. He points out the dlierehccs 'o-
.,oon ,bo PREMIER aud Mr. Chamberlain, and as
sorts that the Radicals are willing TO 1oiiow 'ho
Latter after the principle of domestic Legislature
o., Ireland has been established lie THINKS
hovever. that an arrangement might be mace oe-
tween Mr. Morley who wants the lrlsh mcmociS
excluded from Westminster for two or three years.
and Mr. Chamberlain. Following Is Nl' i'"
bouchcres statement:
The Land bill is doomed. The Radicals 'nrousuo'
the country are dead against IT, whl'e '"' ""'o
Conservatives will hardly le able 10 No'o ioi ~
hec,uss i; involves admission OF HONS ''io' Inv
Government OF ireland bill has the support OF nearly a"
.h pa1ca of tho country but most of them consiuer
vould he desirable that the Irish mewbers should DC
retained in tho Imperial Parliament. Inc u'nelenoe
bctween them and Mr.. Chamberlain is TINS; MT |ha'i-
ntrjn wishes that r Gladstone will give an assurance
that he will agree the retention OF the rlsh members
in Committee and that this assurance should DC gwen
beore the second reading. lit he not given he says
he anl his friends will vote against the second ieaus
Tho Iadicals however with few exceptions say that
tIev wish the second reading TO be resarCeo rs tue
consecration OF the principle OF domestic legislature
~.
,eadv to .o with Mr. Chamberlain in his proposal to
retain the lish members. Mr. Morley is very strongly
opposed their retention, and so Is I'll William mar
court who threatens to resign If Mr. Gladstone cohceos
tne uoint raised 10y Mr.. Chamberlain NO one cutS
oyermuch however, whether Sir William resigns or not
II is TO be hoped that some modus rirendi VIII pe
arrival at and that Mr. Chamberlain will consent to the
question of tie retention the exclusion OF the Sn
members being left an open one lie says 'n"' WIS
voud involve majority against him III Copim'ee l"i
all the Government sheep would follow the Governments
yhus Tothis IL is suggested that the qe'tioh slo" '
Ieft bona de open one each member of the House oi
Commons and of tne Government voting accoruhS
In III. convictions Were this done, think Mr. ChampeI-
lain would have a majority.
Nothing to this eaect has been arranged as yet how
ever and II 1t be not 1t is possible there may DC
majority against the second reading Mr. Chamberlain
himself calculated the number OF Liberals and Radicals
WHO would vote against the second reaulhs aV iii'
unless some he arrived at OF these "hy
itv-nine have yet publicly communicated the III
teution 10 their uens 1t is difficult To say what
Is his own following as distinguished from that OF LORD
but Of these IL. assuming that number 10
he correct. somewhere about 50 would vote Tor the
second reading il his demands we're accedcu TO- u the
bill be defeated the second reading and MI Gladstone
dssoves Parliament ii is very questionable whether we
should get a majority in the country o not Ihe liisu
, vconld nosslv give US about thirty seats that are
row held by Conservatives but there is no DOUBT there
are considerable number of Liberals in every consult
mama. ", M are opposel o Home Rule. and they would
throw their weight the Conservative side In the
40 cutura districts do 10; think the electors W"uh
trouble themselves mVch about the matter. they
sny wish the question may be settled in order tha the
field may e lett open for legislation on their behalf
Mr.. Morley you Will nave seem proposes at "
Clas ,ow tiat the Irish members should be eNclW'ea
fr TIE Imler Parliament, for the present but that III
two or three years they shond return An arrangement
with Mr Chamberlain might possibly Ne made on ms
asis nroyjded il be understood that at the end OF ts
Period they would back to Westminster unless 'ueh
excluded by positive legislation. But yet thIrd pan
has been hroached, which is that all men'loh OF 'ne
rosi,ior OF the Irish in regard to the Imperial
Parliament should he excluded from the bill ana that
c,rI hill he brought in subsequently dealing with the
matter. 4,
~rbavc spoken at several meetings in the East and
West OF England this week and found the feeling 10 he
largely in favor of Mr. Gladstone. My hearers Ola hot
cer 70 know much about details OF the hil! OF 70
care much As for them they thought The whole matter
shuld te LEFT in the hands Of Nh Gladstone. for mat
whatever he did woui bc right. think Ir chamber
lain exagccraies his folio wing There are SIX or seven
members prepared to do precisely what lie asks them,
and that is all. but is not much the nnnhcr Oh
votes he has which render, desirable lie shond he
eonciated IS that being Radical leader his detection
sonld 90 tar to parayze Radical organization at the
general election wore the country consulted upon lhe
bill At Birmingham he is in a minority
The resolutions lately passed at the BnWlnihann
cancus meant nothing. They were merely lutchaeu ~
brde over matters and prevent absolute split 1t
will be the same with regard to tie National lIhera
Federation on Thursday next 9Th nst). This National
eoucus viii express its devotion to Mr.. Gladstone IN
Terms which evade far rs is possible It's putting 's
foot down it'll respect Mr.. Chamberlain Both Mr.
Eitson the president OF the caucus, ana MI Schhau
horst who is what you would call in America the
Boss, are strongly in favor OF tue pilI passing t'
.oos rsoain, Ii. LABoUCHERE.