The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1886-06-10

Rep. Kaulukou wanted to know
on what rule of the house the Presi-
dent based his decision.
The President said he did not
base it on any rule, but on the prin-
ciplcs of common sense. He did
not think it would be reasonable for
him to ak the house to vote on any
matter which any member said he
did not understand. 1t was all un-
usual thing for any question of ihat
kind to come up, and it was the ii"sj
time he had ever heard it laised
there. He had no interesy in the
matter except simply his duty 10 the
house and to himself.
Rep. Kauukou appealed to the
house against the ruling of the chair,
because the President must be
guided by the rules, and, If they
had no rules, then by the rules of
other countries.
The President said to the hon.
member that a court of justice
would not sentence man in Ian
guage he did not understand unless
it was translated to him.
Rep. Kaulukou said the Inter-
prefer had given the gist of the
report. lie had never raised a point
of order like this before, and was
very sorry to be obliged to do so
now.
Rep. Thurston did not believe he
ever had, or any other man in any
assembly in the world; this was at
tempt to force report on members
who could not understand it. In addi-
ton to the printed rules, there was
rule inside every man, based on
common sense, decency and JUS
tice.
Noble Bishop said it did not seem
to him that the President was maxi
ing new rule at all. 1t had been
the practice in this house so many
years, that reading was always
meant to be in both languages.
This was only carrying out the pre-
cedent. 1t was only common
sense Interpretation Of the rule re-
quiring reading.
Minister Gibson said the hon.
member for Lihue had justly OBJ
served that this was merely ques-
ton of courtesy, that there were no
questions of dispute in the matter
whatever. The hon. member for
Molokai remarked that he was satis-
fed the report was correct so far as
he had heard it read. There were
remarks from others TO the same
effect. 1t was u lengthy report,
and lie admitted himself that,
though somewhat familiar with the
Hawaiian language, he did not fully
understand it. But the interpreter
made short statement, that, after
a review Of the whole question, after
admitting all that was claimed by
the opposite party, there still re-
mained a majority in hehalf of the
sitting member. The committee
did not admit the justice or the
injustice of those courts, therefore
concluded that he was entitled to
his seat. Taking this opinion of
the committee, taking the opinion of
hon. members, taking the gist of
the matter as presented by the inter-
prefer, he was prepared to adopt the
report. 1t would he matter of
courtesy, however, matter of plac-
ing it on the records-a matter of
importance to simply receive the
the report at present-perhaps it
should be printed. AS regarded the
immediate matter of dispute, he was
sorry that it should be brought up.
He did not think that a ruling
should he based upon opinion or
even upon common sense.
Rep. Wight said that he consld-
) cred it his duty to speak. If this
report was adopted it would be q
dangerous precedent. If report
3 was presented in English and q
native objected, he could not help
himself after that. If he was
t obliged to vote on this occasion he
: would vote blind-folded. He prob.
t ably had nothing TO vote against
g but he did not like to be led ur
r blindfolded to the stake. He was g
Q great advocate for economy, and il
economy was to rule in every case
4 he would sit down, but economy was
t not so strictly observed as to pre-.
: vent them spending dollar or two
He did not profess TO be Ignorant Of
/ thesnative language by any means
t but if this passed he thought il
e would be good resolution TO pass
that in any other matter it should
r be stated in advance whether it wa
/ to be read in both languages or not
: Rep. Dickey did not think it wa
# right to tell members of this Assem-
o bly, to vote blindfolded. He under
Q stood the Minister of Foreign Affair
n to say that the President could no
s. make ruling based on common
e sense. He took issue with the Min
N lister on that point. The president
W in deliberative assemblies of a.
4, nations based rulings on commo
r sense. They had not a rule requir
&c ing that the speeches of member
e. must be interpreted. If that wa
l. so, then the Interpreter could 81
A. down and read the newspapers.
)t Minister Gibson asked in repl
what were the duties of the Sci
n geant-at- Arms. He was to kee
ID order, according to the rules, an
4. that involved various duties nc
e. necessary to be specified.