The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1886-04-15

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Ihh ullllnhih control OF tne lllih legislative
body, He had no jealousy ON that subject
~ tho care OF providing for the ordinary
surety OF life and property was the first duty
OF a local government
With respect 10 tho civil service, the gov
ornment did not think their case was the
hame ~ that of tho oonatabulary and its
tranfer 10 the legislative body would effect q
great economy. He, therefore, thought II
would be wise TO authorize civil servants 10
claim the pension that would be due 10 them
upon tho abolition OF their offices, provided
they served two years In order 10 prevent In
convenience from a rapid transition OF tho
service, and at the close Of that time both
parties should be FREQ 10 negotiate afresh,
That was al he had 70 say ON the subject OF
tho new Irish consultation.
The proportion OF imperial burdens which
ho had 10 propose that ireland should bear
was ono 10 fourteen, lie thought that the
now Irish parliament ought 10 start with
balance 20 its credit but the only fund that
II would have II left alone would DO the soil
tary ESQ 900 from the Irish church fund, He
knew OF no way OF providing necessary
money except by carving II out OF this years
Budget and he proposed that In future Ire-
land should pay one-dfteenth toward impo1
rial expenditure,
He then went 10 speak OF how much ire
land gained by exporting spirits 20 Great
Britain, and how much Great Britain would
lose 10 Ireland by tho flow OF money from
ono 10 tho other. As tho result OF careful
inquiry he stated with confidence, not IN AN
actual demonstration, but as a matter OF
certainty with regard 10 tho far greater por-
uon, that tho Irish receipts gained from
Great Britain amounted 10 leaa an amount
than 81, 100000
He then entered Into elaborate calculations
OF the total income and expenditure OF Ire.
land In the course OF which no stated that the
total charge 10 Ireland an imperial contrbu-
tlon he put at e3, 420OO, He stated H an
Instance 4 tho intense Generalization Of tho
Irish administration that while the postodlcs
In England showed a largo surplus In Ireland
II Just paid its expenses He estimated tho
total expenditure OF Ireland, including pay
monta M a sinking fund for the Irish portion
OF the national debt at eTOi0OOO Against
that there was a total income OF fS,85O 900,
or surplus 10 the government OF "A, ,OiO,0OO
Continuing, Mr., Gladstone said at nat.
urally has been said In England and Scotland
that we for a great many yeam past have
been struggling 10 pasa good laws for ireland
We have sacrificed our Time, neglected our in
forests and paid our money, and wo have done
all this In AN endeayor 10 give ireland good
laws, That II quito true In regard 20 the
general course OF legislation since lSiD Many
OF those laws have boon passed under an In
nuenco which can hardly describe as tho In.
iluonoo OF fear.
1With regard 10 tho history OF the land
question no man could know that until no
had followed II from year 10 year, beginning
with the Devon commission, tho appoint
ment OF which, IN my opinion, did the high
cot honor 10 the memory OF Sir Robert Pool
lChoeral
aAnd then 10 examine tho mode In
which the whole labora OF that commission
had been frustrated by the dominion OF sol
fish interest lCheen from tho Parnellito
membora,l llo did not deny the good In
tentions Of tho British parliament 10 pass
good laws for ireland, but In order 10 work
out the purposes OF tho government there
ally required Than tho passing OF good laws.
lllear Henrll 10 was sometimes necessary
not only that good laws should be passed,
but also that they should bo passed by tho
proper persons Tho pa lug OF many good
laws was not enough In cases whore tho
strong Instinct OF tho people, distinct marks
OF character situation aud history, required
not only that those laws should he good, but
that they should proceed from congcnial and
native sources and that besides good laws
they should bo their own laws lChoop
from tho Irish benches
AT times have doubted whether this no
coaslty has beon fully developed and especially
with respect 20 ireland II doubts could
have bean entertained before tho last general
election they cannot now be entertained
Tho principle ho had laid down he was laying
down for ireland especially, II waa the very
principle upon which, within his recollection
and ~ tho Immense advantage 10 the coun-
try, parliament had not only altered but had
royolutioniaed our methods Of government.
When no held Office at tho colonial oiilco
fifty years ago tho colonies wero governed
from Downing atroot, Tho result was that
tho homo government was always In conflict
with thesc countries, which had legislative
assemblies They had continual ahocln thon,
but all that had been changed The British
parliament had tried 10 pas good laws for
tho colonies, but tho colonies aaid, ave don't
want your your good laws We want our
own good lawsn Parliament admitted tho
roasonablcncs Of the principle II had now
como homo " IA from across the seas, and
tho house had now ~ consider whether II was
applicable 10 the cao OF ireland They now
stood face 10 face with what was termed
Irish nationality, venting itself In n demand
for general government In lrlah not In I'm.
perial affairs "Tho conclusion" Mr. Glad.
stone said, ~ hold, " that thoro II such
not bad but goodh tChoOiSl
"lho Wcchman Is full Of local patriotism;
Scotch nationality Ia ~ strong II over was, and
II the neod were 10 arise believe II would bo
ns ready ~ assert itself as II was In the days
Of Bnnnochhourno loud cheorpl II have
read lrlah history Alright misfortune aud On.
lnmity have welded hor eons 30 tholr aoll
with an embrace yet closer than IN known
elsewhere Aud the lrIshmon IA etill moro
Irish liut u does not follow that
because bis local patriotism IN strong that lao
n Incapable OF AN imperial patriotism,
"fhere arc two 0modos Of preventing thosub.
ject which have boon argued, Ono " 20 pro.
vent what we now recommend na good aud
Tho other IA 10 opreyont Il a. choice OF OWLS,
and ~ the lctSor among tho varied evils with
which, ~ possibilities, wo aro confronted.
"Well, I have argued tho matter IN II IL !
had been n choice OF OWLS, have e,ognlEed
~ facts aud ~ entitled 10 attend ON jealouaIca
which myself do not share or feel have
argued u ON that ground ~ the only ground
on which II can be recommended, not only 10
4 mixed auditory but ~ tho public mind an
10 the country that cannot give minute
Investigation 70 all portions Of this oompll.
,ated question don't know whether II may
appear 10 mo too bold, but In my own heart
cheriah tho hope that this II not grayer
'holoe OF lessor OWLS but that II may DO !
proved 70 DO gro long q good In itsolf, loud |
and long continued chcerul
"Thero IL, | know, an answer 10 this aud !
what n tho answorl Tho answer Ia only |
'ound In n Wow which rests upon basis OF |
lespalr, OF absolute condemnation of ireland !
aud lrishmen n exceptions 10 tho beneficial |
provisions which have made, IN general, leu. |
ropoane aud particularly Engtshmon aud !
Americans, capable of self government, that |
M lrlshman is lasus naturn, that Justice, |
,ommon senao and moderation aud natural |
have no meaning for him, that all |
no can understand, and that all he can nppro. |
slate IA strife aud perpetual dlssonsIons Now, |
'ir ] am not going 10 argue In this house |
whether this view lcheers from the Parnel. |
tosl Il n correct one. say an lrishmen is NJ |
'apable OF loyalty na any other man, fro. |
lowed eheop From the Irish membersl but |
I his loyalty has been checked, why n IN |
Because Che laws by which he Is governed
10 not present themselves 10 him as thoy do |
% IA IN England or Scotland with a native |