Savannah morning news., 1886-05-11
FRIN'S AGED CHAMPION.
A STATEMENT OF HIS PERSONAL
POSITION IN THE FIGHT.

compatible with Unity of the Empire
Two Important QCestiOns Regarding
uome Rule Which Have Alresdy Been
settIed-C -Canada's Case Explained.
LONDON, May 10.-Premier Glad
stones voice at the outset of his speech
to.davin advocacy of his motion for sec
ond reading of the home rule bill was in
distinct, hoarse and feeble, but it cleared
as he proceeded. He said he desired, at
the oDenIng, omake statement of his
nersonal position, which ne had entirely
refraiued from making when he intro
duced the bill. He had never at any time
desired home rule Ia Ireland
as incompatible with imperial
unity. TCries, OIL oh!l That was ex-
actlv so. Cheers. Contradiction had
come from some members who visited
Midlothian, making speeches stuffed full
of totally untrue and worthless
assertions. lOh. OH and cheers.
In 1871 he had expressed the
GREAT satisfaction with which he had
heard the statements OF the supporters Of
home rule, as those statements cOntem-
Mated nothing leading to a severance of
the empire. IParnellite cheers.
TWO IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
Two questions always presented them
selves to his mind regarding home rule.
Firstly, it must be shown that it was de-
sired by the great mass OF the populatlon
of Ireland. That condition had never
been absolutely and dunequiVocally present
until the passing Of the representation OF
the people act Cheers.
Secondly, was home rule compatible
with unity Of the empire? That ques-
tion had been answered by Mr.. Parnell,
who had declared that what he sought
under ne name Of home rule was simply
the autonomy of Ireland
The speaker had Been charged with eX-
per ueuting in politics without grave
fluse Here they had the graVest Of
causes. for they were dealing with peo-
De and country whose radical sympa-
.hies were against the lay, especially the
criminal law. which had never obtained
ne co iidence or obedience of the Irish
people.
COERCION AND REFORM.
Alternative coercive and reform meas
ares mad been tried. They had equally
failed 10 conciliate. The medicine Of
coercion especially had been medicine
continually applied in increasing doses,
and with diminishing results. Par
relite cheers. Here the speaker re-
viewed the history Of the past in an en-
deayor to prove that the only thorough
measure which would be satisfactory to
Ireland was now favorable. AS regards
The autonomy of Ireland being a menace
to the unity of the empire, he reminded
the House that the same argument was
employed against Canadian independ-
ence when it was determined to cOncede
home rule to Canada. Canada was in the
precise temper attributed tor Ireland to-
Gay.
CANADA NOT FRIENDLY.
Canada did not get home rule because
she was loyal and friendly. She was now
loyal and friendly because she had got
home rule. Irish cheers. He (Glad-
stone sat IN Parliament during the whole
Canadian controversy, taking as young
man an active part in the discussion.
What was the nature of the Canadian de-
bate? The case of Canada was not
parallel to the case of Ireland opposition
cheers not in every particular. So the
bill offered to Ireland is different in i'm
portant details from the act which dis
posed of the case of Canada. But although
not parallel, their positions are analogous.
What was The Issue in the case OF Canada
G0vernment from Downing street.
WHAT IT MEANS.
These few words embrace the whole
controversy, government from Downing
street meaning, of course, government
from Westminster. Hear, hear. What
was the cry OF those VINO resisted autOn-
omy in Canada? 1t was cry which has
slept long time, acquiring yigor from
sleeping. IL was the cry that the unity
Of the empire would be endangered. In
bis opinion of the relations of Canada and
England, then, there was very great
danger to the unity Of the en-
pire, but it was the remedy for
the mischief-not the mischief itseli
fnb dod
Irish cheers. In this respect the cases
Of Ireland and Canada are precisely par.
alel. There is danger to the unity of the
empire in our present relations with
Ireland.
CRYING DOWN THE REMEDY.
But the opponents Of the bill have ap.
Piled the cry OF danger 20 the remedy in.
stead oft the existing mischief Cheers.
In those days the people OF Canada were
ba0ltually denounced in this House as
rebels. Prolonged government and Par
neliite cheers. Some OF those so called
rebels were PrOtestants of English aud
scotch birth, but a majority were CathO-
lies OF French extraction. Was the cry
against them raised because they were of
french extraction aud Catholics? No,
sir. Inc English in Upper Canada did
exactly the same thing. Both
leOelled. lie (Gladstone) remembered
OOOhhell IN the course OF Lne DEBATE on
Lanada, in referring to the French Cana
ulan leader, Papineau. saying: "This
case 10 just the case Of Ireland with this
dlnerence: The Canadian agitator has
the '0' at the end Of his name instead OF at
The beginning" Laughter.
CANADAs VICTORY.
The Canadian rebels were suppressed,
out at the moment Of military victory
political difficulty began, and the victors
We're Vanquished. II we were the mill.
lary yictors, the Canadians were victo-
ri0us in the field OF reason. Cheers.
Here Mr.. Gladstone referred TO the sig
h'hcanteXpression that had come across
me Atlantic approving the vital princi-
pes OF the bill. Cheers and derislve cries.
ne asked the gentlemen VINO appeared
10 think that these manifestations
Ol opinion Of America were
worthless hear hear II they would
nave considered them worthless II the
manifestations mad condemned the bull.
Cheers Coming TO tue leading obiec-
.iohs u The bill, he said he noticed that
,ne hrst was objection to the exclusion Of
lrlsh members from the Imperial Parlia-
Ilent as breach OF tue cardinal princi-
pie that there should not be taxation with
9ut representation.
POWER OF ENFORCEMENT.
The opponents Of the bill said England
VOuld never enforce taxation in Ireland