New-York tribune., 1886-03-20


most important public utterance sli'c0 '"'
assembling of the present Parliament Ai'e' 'D''
interview had been put INTO writing IL was S"'
mitted to Mr. Parnell and carefully revise" 'S N''
in order to insure strict accuracy.
@Mr Parnell what effect do you anticipate WIN
the resignation of MessIs. Chamberlain anu
van ha We upon the Irish cause 7
"That would depend upon variety Oh c'io"'"-
stances. but the most important factor Is uh"ouo'
odlv Mr.. GIadstone's health. If that holds g'ou
home rule think is secure"
"Whether those gentlemen resign or not do you
think GssensiOns in the Cabinet VIII cause o'SSo-
hutton IF ParliamentW
al am not inclined to think so. Mr. Chamoer-
loio'sinRuence on members of the present House ol
Commons is very small indeed. In fact know OF
,o,, mon who have been so long in Parliament as
MI Chamberlain who have less inhuerce with thelr
fellow members or who are less looked up 10 l"r
authoritative guidance. | think Mr.. Gladstone
would manage to carry his measures through tno
ropso Of Commons without Mr.. Chamberlain's aid.
aport fl ON the effect Of Mr. GladstOues influence
the number of new members in the present Parlia-
ment on the Liberal side and the number OF
members on the Tory side who owe theli seats 10
the Irish vote are considerable enough TO make lhe
House little anxious for another general elecI'oh'
Moreover the Irish landlords, Notwithstanding
their pretended hostility will be so eager not 10
miss the great opportunity of the land purchase
scheme that their influence under the rose VIII oe
calculated to take the backbone out of Tory
opposition"
"Shonld Mr. Gladstone's measure go safety
through the House of Commons do you thlnk IL
will be rejected by the House of Lords "
"Irathcr think the Lords viii hesitate before
they reject the scheme if it passes the Com
mons They will be more likely to conhne
their attention to making the Land Purchase
scheme as favorable as possible TO landlords, ana
10 minimizing 10y amendments IN committee the
measure dealing with Irish autonomy"
You do not anticipate strong resistance TO Mr.
GIadstones measures from the Wings led by LORD
HartingtOnp
"Mr. Chamberain's opposition would probably
have the effect of drawing Lord Harrington closer
to Mr. Gladstone side
locking at the matter from general election
oo,nt of view. what do yOu think would be the
effect of Mr.. Chamberlains OpposltiOn|
"Mr. Chamberlain undoubtedly occupies very
lish constituencies, those in the MIdandS but out
side of this district his power not much felt or
recognized. Hence 1 should not apprehend that III
the event of an appeal to the country upon NIL
Gladstone's proposals Mr.. Chamberlain opposition
would prove very damaging"
Apart from Mr. Chamberlain's opposition what
do YOU think would be the result of appeal TO
the country, the issue being Home Rule for Ire
laudi'
Z" ! am very much disposed to think it would leave
the balance of parties pretty much as II IS now. At
the last general election we gave Conservatives by
the aid of Irish vocts at least seventy seats on
moderate computation. II Mr. GladstOucs pro
posals should prove fairly acceptable a sett ement
of the louG-standing quarrel between England and
Ireland, this vote would everywhere be given and
those seventy seats would 60 to Liberal candidates
possibly The issue being Hone Rule an equivalent
loss would be incurred by the Liberals throughout
England generally, that the matters would be
balanced and remain as they are now with a
majority of 40 of Liberals and NatonallsS COM
bned Over Tories"
" You spoke of the eaGerness of the landlords not
10 lose the benefit of land purchase schemes DO
YOU think tins will weaken their resistance TO
Home Rule ?"
| should think / would. The attachment Of
the land to the Home Rule question is shrewdly
lords are mortcaged If those mortgages were re-
leased and the landlords residing upon and occupy
ing their demesne properties their tenants
holding being transferred to the
state could live very comfort
ably and in the happiest relations with their neGh
bors The great majority would be overjoyed at
the relief. There is a commercial interest beside
both III England and Ireland. The holders OF these
NOR cages 10 whom TIE land purchase would be a
gYea- noon and their desire to have the matter set
tied would be a considerable factor in forwarding
the creation of an Irish Legislature on whose es-
this settlement would depend. In fact,
the land purchase scheme would be so eminently
beneficial to the landlord that the faintest oppos
tOn to the prospect may be from Radicals
who, if they do oppose Mr.. Gladstone's
will be likely to let Home Rule pass readily
enough and direct their hostility to the Land bill.
Mr.. Chamberlain however, if he leaves The Cabl-
net will probably oppose the measure dealing with
the government Of Ireland as strongly as he would
the measure dealing with the land
What would be Mr.. Chamberlain s objectr
MIR. Chamberiain's policy is undoubtedly to
keep the Irish members in Westminster in hopes
that they Will assist him in carrying out the Radi-
cal programme but if he by any chance succeeded
as the result of his present action in dashlng the
cup from the lips of Ireland, so far from the
calprogramme's being assisted byIrlsh members
a chasm would be created between them and the
Radicals that would not be bridged over in
twenty years. The only seriOns immediate danger
is the condition of Mr.. Gladstones health if his
voice failed him. Even now It would be a grave
ca amity but II would be worse in the general |
election, when it would be necessary for him TO
make at least three four great speeches If an |
appeal to the county be enforced upon him, more
over in the excitement and turmoil of an electoral
campaign hls health would be a source of continual
anxiety. Mr.. Chamberlain, am inclined 10 think,
would have little to rejoice at his work if it
result IN running the hopes Of the aged Prime Min
ster Of finally settling the Irish question. Ievul
.lOn Of feeling would probably set in against the