Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-05-14
ERIN WORTHY OF TRUST.
CAMPBELL BANNERMAN MEETS
CONSERVATIVE FEARS.

All the Vices of the Kingdom Not on
the Emerald Isle-Sir Henry James
Declares That the Premier's PROPOSE
tiOn VIII Lead to Confusion and chaos
LONDON, May 13.-Premier Gladstone
in the House OF Commons this afternoon,
in reply to Sir Michael Hicks Beach, Con-
servative, stated that the government
would propose that the debate on the
home rule bill should be from day to day,
beginning on Monday next. The govern
ment would not take tomorrow Friday
for such a debate because John Morley,
Chief Secretary for Ireland, would then
take occasion to move second reading OF
his bill relating to the purchase aud
use of arms in Ireland. The
debate on MIR. Gladstone's Irish bill
was then resumed by Sir Henry James,
Liberal member for Bury. He criticised
the measure. He said he was only in
fuenced by desire to arrive at right
and just conclusion concerning the best
way to govern Ireland. Cries of "HearP
Hear" from Mr.. Gladstone.
FIVE CONDITIONS.
The Premier's scheme contained Ave
conditions: Unity OF the Empire, supre-
macy of the Imperial Parliament, safe
guards for the rights of the Irish
minority, the uphOlding OF social
order, and final settlement Of
the Irish question. But the bill offered
no security whatever for the fulfllment
of the conditions, because whatever Irish
bill England might pass could be repealed
the next day by the Dublin Parliament.
The speaker said he reprobated the threat
of the Ulster Loyalists to resort to arms.
Every one should discourage threats, but
the government had mentioned what dy-
PAINTERS and assassins would do unless
the bill was passed.
Here John Morley corrected the speaker
by stating that what had been said was
that dynamiters aud assassins would be
delighted if the bill were rejected.
THE VETO PROVISION.
Sir Henry, continuing, SAID the veto
provision in Mr.. Gladstone's bill was in
adequate to protect the Loyalist minority
because the judges and police of Ireland
would be miniOns of the majority. The
minority should not be thus deserted.
[Cheers.l The speaker did not believe
that the bill would prove a final settle
ment of the irish question but did believe
that Irishmen would accept it simply as
a vantage ground for warfare
uDtu LuEiduu W OUbdlu tNtnAuuii9
total separation. lCres OF No! mol from
the Parnellitesl. In conclusion, Sir
Henry said: eve have, inaeed, now
come TO parting of roads, as the Premier
says. Each member must make his
choice. | have made mine. ! believe
that the bill will lead to confusion and
chaos. l hope the House will maintain
an unbrOken union, as it at present ex-
lists. between the three Kingdoms"
lCheers.]
IRELAND TO BE TRUSTED.
Campbell Bannsrman, Secretary for
War, said he did not believe that the
Irish would exhibit all the vices and none
of the virtues Of the nation. The very
fact that all the rival schemes for re-
form of the government in Ireland had
been withdrawn to give the present one
entire possession of the field testified to
the soundness Of the bill. The late gov
ernment had allowed things in Ireland to
drift until English rule in Ireland had
come to be despised He believed a ma
JOrity or the House favored the cardinal
principle OF the bill. II so be would ask
what could be more deplorable than a
failure OF the House to give legislative
effect to that principle? In conclusion
Mr.. Bannerman declared that the gov
ernment were quite ready to consider all
suggestions for the retention OF the Irish
representatives at Westminster. Laugh
ter from the opposition benches.
woLsELEY's DENIAL.
The House Of Commons was crowd
ed this afternoon in anticipation OF
an excited discussion ON the re-
sumption of the debate on the home
rule bill. Campbell Bannerman. War
Secretary, in reply to Mr.. Healy, charac-
teriZed as an absurdty the statement
l. 1
Der for South Belfast, that Gen. Wolselay
had declared that II home rule were
granted ireland and he we're ordered to
suppress an Ulster rebellion he would re-
sign and with 1000 other British officers
Join the Ulster rebels. The Secretary
added that Gen. WOlseley authorized him
TO formally contradict any statement that
he Gen. Wolseloy) bad ever alluded to
the subject In any speech he had ever
uttered.
NOT SOON TO BE FORGOTTEN.
E.G. Clarke, Conservative, SAID that IL
the bill were rejected the fact would not
soon be forgotten. This expression Of
opinion was greeted with significant Par
nellite cheers.
Mr.. Redmond denied that il the bill
were enacted 1t would place Ireland in
the position Of a colony.
Mr.. Dillon said that although he recOg-
nlZed the fact that the measure was de-
fectiye In some respects be was ready TO
accept 10 as a settlement OF the question,
and would endeaYOr honestly TO aid In its
enforcement m an amicable spirit as re-
CARDS 10th England and Ulster. ~ was
impossible. be continued. that the men,
bers should think the Natlonalsts were
anxious 10 SIT at Westminster while The
affairs Of ireland were going 20 wreck and
ruin. Irish cheers. lie appealed tO those
whOagreed TO the principle Of home rule,
although dissenting from the provision In
the bin involving misrepresentation NJ
Ireland in the Imperial Parliament, not
20 wreck the measure on it's second read
ing on a point Of detail.
PARNKLps ACcEPTANCE.
f.. A. Latham, member for Hud-
dersheld, Reiormer, asked whether Mr..
Parnell would accept the bill as a settle
ment OF the Irish question
Mr.. PafDell rose IN his place and en-
phatcally replied; "Yes"
Mr.. Latham retOrted that he had beer
unable 20 gather that idea from Mr.. Par
nelps previous speeches.
Mr.. Iiealy az this juncture sprnng 10
bis feet. aud, turning 70 Mr.. Parnell, ex-
citedlv shouted: "Tell bin he's n liar.D
An uproar ensued, and Mr.. Healy re-
sumed his seat amid shouts OF 'Order"
from all parts Of the House.
FURTHER sEcEssIoNs.
Further secessons from Mr.. Glad
stones section OF the Liberal party are
reported consequent uDOu the disappOfnt-