Salt Lake evening Democrat. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1885-1887, 1886-03-12
THAT LITTLE ACCOUNT.

the Senate, on the previous day, on th
introduction of. Mr.. Cullom's resolution
of inquiry as to Utah's indebtedness t
the United States for moneys advances
to meet court and other expenses in thi
Territory. The report is reproduced be
low in full, and, as showing the humo
of several prominent Senators when an
measures affecting the Utah situation ar
under discussion, it will doubtless b.
read with interest by all:
ACCOUNTS WITH UTAH TERRITORY.
Mr.. Cullom-I ask unanimous consent t.
| be allowed to introduce resolution now, a!
shall have to leave the Senate, which i
| important to be acted on, if at all, TO-DAY
| ask that it be read.
Mr.. Blair-I do not object.
The resolution was read, as follows:
ReSotUed, That the Secretary of the Treas
| ury be, and he is hereby, directed to report
to the Senate what, if any, amount of none,
| has been expended by the United States III
behalf of the Territory of Utah since the pas
sage of the act of Congress of June %, 1874
entitled "An act in relation to courts and iu
dlcial officers in the Territory of Utah." ani
expended
whether the United States has been reim
bursed therefor; and that pending the answer
to this resolution, and until an investigation
OF the subject may be had by Congress, the
honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and
the Secretary of the Interior are hereby re-
quested to withhold any and all compensa-
ton or allowance to any member or officer
OF the Legislative Assembly of the Terri
tory of Utah.
Mr n1 4 L..
OF the case in word or two.
understand the fact to be that Utah Ter
rltory is indebted to the United States nearly
S30O,00O. l have letter before me stating
that fact. The Legislature has been in ses-
sion some sixty days and has done nothing,
out the members are now calling for their
pay, and the Secretary of the Treasury, un-
less something is done to cause him to with
nold action In sending warrant for that
purpose, will feel himself compelled to do
1t. ask that the resolution be adopted so
that the Secretary will be justified in wait
ing until we investigate the subject before
sending the money out.
MIR. Harris-Is this Senate resolution?
MIR. Cullom-A Senate resolution.
Mr. Blalr-I object if it leads to debate.
MIR. Cullom-There is to be no debate I
am through.
The President pro tempore-Is there OBJ
lection to the present consideration of this
resolution?
Mr.. Hoar-Is this resolution proposinp
by one branch of Congress to request the
Secretary of the Treasury to abstain from
the performance of legal duty?
MIR. Cullom-In the first place, the resolu-
ton calls upon the Secretary to state the
amount of money in which that Territory is
indebted to the United States, and in the
meantime to withhold sending money to
pay the Territorial Legislature until we can
ascertain the state of the case.
Mr.. Hoar-I think the resolution had bet.
ter go to the Committee on Territories or
some other committee.
Inc President pro tempore-Does the SEN
ator from Massachusetts object to the pres
ent consideration of the resolution?
Mr.. Hoar-No, do not object.
Mr. Ingalls, should like to hear it read
)nce more.
The President pro tempore-The resolu- |
t ion will be read
The Chief Clerk read the resolution.
Mr.. Hoar-l suggest to my friend from |
LIMOS that to avoid what seems to be an |
assertion of authority that the Senate does |
lot possess, he put in after the word with
lold'' the words $50 far as the law author
zes'
MIR. Cullom-I have no objection: but this
ught to be done in the interestof the United |
,tates. have In hand a letter from the
'Irst Comptroller of the Treasury. Mr., Dur
am, which shows very large amount of
Indebtedness from the Territory to the Gov
rnment, and its Legislature has refused to
make the appropriation necessary to reim-
urse the Government of the United States
or the current expenses or the amount of
honey sent out there.
Mr.. Ingalls, should regret to have the
enate committed to the idea that is con-
alned In the last section of this resolution,
nat 1t Is within the competence of one body
the other to interfere with appropriations
men nave been made and expenditures .
'hch have been directed by existing laws
sympathize with the object the Senator
-om ILLINOIS has in view: but I think the I
cry slight reflection we are able to give to {
now will convince him that it is hardly
for US to interfere with a current
visiting appropriation.
MIR: Cullom.I think the suggestion of the
snator from Massachusetts will remedy the
III that the Senator from Kansas seems to +
ar.
Mr. Edmunds-There is no doubt at all
at the Legislature of Utah have omitted G
make appropriations for paying the ex /
nses OF the courts, jurors, witnesses, ETC., G
llch all the others Territories are bound by
" to do and this Territory as well, because c
ey do not like the Congress of the United d
ates.- =, T
1t is equally clear that the laws of the
lited States provide for paying ont of the
easury of the United States the salary or t.
diem of the members of that Territorial U
glslature; and have no doubt, though I n
We not not looked it up, that there is an -
preparation now standing in the Treasury o
{ OF winch these persons are entitled to b
BIZ pay. The only ground on which the h
cretary could refuse to pay them would be :.
~ 1nro |
We been, in their duty in taxing the people n
tnat territory and raising the money to re
these judicial expenses that they ought
pay and that they are bound to nav.
5ut would that justify, on resolution of
Senate alone, the Secretary of the
easury IN withholding the money that has
en- appropriated by law for particular 80
rpose, and the particular persons in whose VI
'or 1t has been made are entitled to it on ht
face OF the statute, upon the ground that u
y personally or in body have miscon- III
,ted themselves? 1t may be open to some w
sStlon. should be very much afraid the oe
,retary could not do it. '' ''-' ar
ne PRESIDENT pro tempore--Is there anv tb
ectiOn to the present consideration of =,
8 resolution? on
fr. Blair-I must object if there is to he
,ate.
II. Cullom-Will the Senator allow one ve
ther suggestion to see whether there will or
any difficulty in consideration of the sub att
after that? By consent of the Senate VI
ask that the resolution be changed into ce
oncurrent resolution, if that will remedy tn
difficulty. 70
lr. Ingalls-A joint resolution. te
lr. Cullom-Well a joint resolution. in
he PRESIDENT pro tempore-The Senator W;
"a Illinois modifies the resolution SO as to r., "
1t IN the form of joint resolution. Is ~
re objection to the present consideration 10
it In that form? to
lr Brown-I object to the further con- tn
sration of it at present. &