The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-08-27


aster was ayerted. Hon. Mr.. Bishop says
it was against the law. but the circum-
stances justified them doing 50. In that
case it was some individuals who were in
Strengthened circumstances, and 50 IL
might be with the Government. Would II
be wise thing, il the Government was
temporarily short OF money, TO go to the ex-
penSe Of summoning the Legislature? He
thought the Government would be justi-
fed in relieving the pressure without doing
that He was satisfied the loan was ne
gotiated for carrying on the Government,
and not for the private wants Of the Min
listers Mr. Dole could not say the money
had been appropriated or embezEled by the
Ministers. He did not make that charge
No one in the House thought that the
Ministers had borrowed the money and
put it in their own pockets. Therefore
they could not find fault with the Minis
tiers. Many resolutions had been brought
in against the Minister OF the Interior, but
his skin was thick and it would take more
than this resolution to have any effect
upon him. He would keep his promise
with DR.. Wight and not move the previous
question.
Nj Kauhane spoke in favor of the reso-
luton He contended that now was the
time for the Legislature to fix this matter
or else there would be trouble ahead.
Mr. Dole said the argument OF the At
torney General reminded him of BOOM
erang-it recoiled on those making use OF
it. The law quoted by him only author
lied borrowing within limit. That limit
had been far exceeded by the Ministry in
this case. That there was no law forbid
ding the Ministry from borrowing without
authority was no justification OF the course
pursued. Nothing had been said against
the resolution TO amount to anything.
There was nothing personal in it, and
nothing to say againstit. He appealed to
the sense of fairness of every member to
support it. Fit was indefinitely postponed,
it would tell the Government they had free
license to borrow as they please. If they
do that they might as well give all the laws
to the Government and then shut up
shop.
MIR. Kalua moved the ayes and noes be
called. Agreed to.
The resolution was indefinitely post
poned by the following vote:
Ayes-Gibson, Creighton, Kanoa, Dare,
Kuihelani, Macfarlane, Hayselden, Keau,
Lilikalani, Baker, Amara, Kaulia, kaulu-
kou, Pahia, kaunamano, Nahale, Nahinu,
Aholo, Kaukau, Kaai, Palohau-2l.
Noes-Bishop, Wilder, Bush, Kaae, Mar
tin, 5. Parker, Brown, Wright, Kauhane,
kaIua, Richardson, Castle, Dickey, Thur
ton PaehaoIe DoIe-I6
Mr.. Dickey objected to the votes of the
four Ministers, as the resolution concerned
them.
TEMPORARY LOANS.
Mr.. Thurston propounded the following
question to His Excellency the Minister OF
the Interior:
WHEREAS, 1t was stated by yourself this
morning that certain temporary loans
made by the Government had been repaid
with cash, and certain of such loans had
been cancelled by the transfer of lands,
please state, LIST, the date of each transfer
Of land for such purpose; I'd, the name of
person, or persons, or company, to whom
each of such transfers were made; Sd, the
name and locality OF each land or piece of
land so transferred; 4th, the amount OF
Indebtedness cancelled by each of said
transfers.
NATIONAL LOAN BILL.
Mr.. ThurstOn presented the following
report from the Special Committee on the
Loan bill:
Hon. j. 5. Walker, President Legislative
Assembly-Sir: Your special committee,
to whom was referred bill introduced by
His Excellency w. NJ. Gibson, entitled
An Act to authorize a national loan, and
to define the uses to which the money
borrowed shall be applied" report that
they have considered the same In view
of the fact that the intrOducer of said bill
has, on behalf of the Government, and
81, the introduction of such bill, stated
to the Assembly that the Government no
longer considered loan necessary, and
that no change of such policy has since
been announced by the Government, your
committee do not deem it incumbent upon
them, or advisable, to make any recon-
mendation concerning said bill, and there
fore return the same tosthe Assembly with
out recommendation.
L. A. THURsToN, Chairman.
CHAs. r. BISHOP,
a. S. CLEGHoRN.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare, member of
the committee, gave his reasons for not
signing the report.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson, also a mem
Der of the committee, while cOncurring in
the report, did not sign. As the Loan bill
was the order of the day for Friday, he
should reserve his remarks until then.
Mr.. Brown moved the report be adopted
and the committee discharged. When the
Loan bill was first introduced he favored
it, but since then he had heard the Gov
eminent did not want loan, so had
changed his mind.
Mr.. KaulukOu moved the report be ac-
cepted and laid upon the table, and consid-
cred with the bill on Friday.
The latter motion prevailed.
sPIRITUOUS LIQUOR BILL.
Third reading of an Act To amend sec
ton 81, of chapter A, OF the Laws of 1889,
relating to the seizure of spirituous liquors
On motion of Mr.. PaehaoIe the bill
passed.
MEASUREMENT OF VESSELS BILL.
Third reading of an Act providing for the