The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-10-06

/ There were not ten plantations that could
show anything OLA the profit side OF the
books Since january l9t sugar had been
very low: for long time it had not been
50 low. This years crop was IS per cent
less than last years The introduction OF
this bin was only an attempt to precipitate
the whole country into bankruptcy Il
was trifing with the destiny and future OF
the country They were shutting their
eyes and going blind without thinking
anything OF the consequences There was
no reason for this increase OF taxation
without it was To carry out all the follies
and eXtravagances voted the past lew
weeks
Mr.. Kaulukou said the bill was not be-
fore the House, and therefore Mr.. Thurs
ton should confine his remarks 10 the re~o-
luton which was.
Mr. Thur~ton said his remarks were en-
tirely proper. Ii not then there was
nothing before the House. They could
pass the resolution A. matter OF courtesy
to Mr.. Hayseden.
Mr.. HayseIden said he did not expect
any courtesy from that side OF the House
The President said Mr.. Thurston was in
order. The resolution states expressly its
object.
Mr.. Hayseldeu said the resolution did
not give the amendment proposed. 1t
merely states that an amendment is in
tended to be made to sections Il and Is.
Mr.. Thnr-ton Wa, only talking from hear
say.
The President instructed the Secretary
to read the resolution again.
This being done, the President said he
was mistaken about the resolution, and
ruled that Mr. Tburston's remarks on the
bill were out of order.
Mr., Thur~ton said ne had a right to talk
on the bill
The President said he must confine him
self to the resolution.
MIR. Thurston, continuing, said that the
taxpayers could not afford TO pay this in,
creased taxation.
Mr., Hay>eIden said Mr.. Thurston
should confiue himself to the resolution,
or else appeal from the ruling of the Chair.
Mr. Aholo thought the discussion would
be more in order when the bill was before
the House. They had heard that planta-
lions were going into bankruptcy. That
was one side of the question; but there
was another side u be heard from. How
was il that at the end OF each month or
quarter these plantations were paying
large dividends? 4 law had passed for free
education, and the loss from tuition fees
must be made up. There is one member
OF the Assembly, a large property owner,
who is quite willing taxation should be
raised even to IA per cent He moved
the previous question.
Mr.. Hayselden said he was quite pre-
pared 10 give his views why the increase
should be made, but thought the proper
time would be when the bill came up He
should therefore reserve his remarks.
The previous question carried.
Mr.. ThurStOn moved the ayes and noes
be taken. Agreed to.
The President said it would require a
majority 70 indefinitely postpone the reSO-
luton, and a two-thirds vote to pass it.
Mr.. Thurston withdrew his motion for
indefinite postponement
The President said it would require
twenty votes to pass the resolution.
The resolution was passed on division
by the following vote:
Ayes-Gibson, Creighton, Dare, Bush /
Kaae, Parker. Hayseldeu, Keau. Lilika- |
lani, Baker, Amara, Kaulia, Kaulukou, |
Puhia Kaunamano, Nahinu, Aholo. Kau- |
kan, Richardson Kaai, Kauai, Palohau |
%
Noes-BishOp, Kauhi, Wight, Nahale, /
Dickey, Thurston, Paehaole, DOle-8.
NOTICE OF BILL.
Mr.. Hayselden then gave notice OF his |
to introduce a bill to amend sec
tons 70 and -. chapter %. of the Session
Laws Of 1852
OCEAN ISLAND.
Mr.. Dole propounded the following ques-
tons to the Minister OF the Interior:
/. To what judicial circuit does Ocean
Island or Papapa Island belong?
,. Also, to what electoral district does
the said island belong?
;. Also, TO what taxation district does
the said island belong?
Hi, Excelency Mr.. Gibson said that III
view of this being a new acquisition to
Hawaiian domain. he moved Mr.. Dole
bring in a bill TO settle the points involved
in the questions. When that was done he
would answer them.
THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.
Mr.. KauIukou presented resolution
hat an Act to appoint five Justices OF the
Court be made first order OF TO-
lay.
MI Thurston said he did not see how
hey could consider it when the bill was
not before the House.
Mr.. Kaulukou said if the resolution were
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