New-York tribune., 1886-04-23
MIR. GOULD ON THE STAND.
nIs CONTROVERSY WITH TIE STRIKERS.
TELLING Uis STORY FOR FOUR HOURS TO THE
HOUSE COMMITTEE.
N.Y. TI.f. ~ ,p;fr
rnr TELEGENPH To TIE rRmUsE.l


tho quarters. Mr. Gould hand early accompanies
by the second vice president OF tho Missouri Pacific
Mr. Hopkins. General Swaync his counsel and Mr.
somcryc OF the Western Union Hc looked the picture
of health His testimony givol In Straightforward
puslno.slike without any attempt at dramatic
effect. created excellent impression. Mr. Gould re-
NAMED the witness stand from IL o'clock In the fore
noon until after o'clock in the afternoon with an inter
mission OF only litoen minutes at o'clock lie was
relieved times by his counsel General Swayne, who
read the greater portions OF the documents submitted
for the information OF the committee. such the
| spondencc which passed botwoeD Mcssrs. Gould iand
| Powdcily. The proclamation, appeal for Justice
issued by the Knights OF Labor, after their failure to
bring the Missouri Pacific to terms. Mr. Gould read him
eclf with marked emphasis faint traces OF grim smile
passing his counenancc lie reached passages III
the appeal which dcnouDco him an oppressor " n
monster OF nfamy robneT OF the rich and poor. a
man guilty OF "perf1y, outrage and crime who
eoats he erinds tho lie out OF his fellow men and
grimaces and dances they writhe upon his instru
meDt OF torture" These anc like passages Mr. Gould
with evident relish. As he finished he brought his
band down the table and exclaimed
This tho response tho three orders OF the Knights
of Labor made to continuing the bond of fellowship
| which hcld out
1t was the only when tho indi gnati)n OF the wit
ness better OF his desire appear dis
passionate and calm. The testimony follows:
The ChairmanTt Ia the desire OF the committee, Mr..
Could that You g7e testimony in respect the in
vcstigaton in which engaged aud, for the time
! leave the examination to Mr.. Burncs.
The wished to know the scope OF the resolution
under hch the committee acting.
Mr. Burnes stated that the select committee had been
authorized by the House Of Representatives investi
gate the causes extent OF disturbed condition
now existing between railroad corporations engaged in
carrying Interstate and their employees in the
States OF Illinois Missouri, Kansas. Arkansas, and
/ Texas.
Mr.. GOuld-Tt is true that tho Missouri Pacific
through OF those States but at this time have
no difference with and not, strictly sreak
ing within the ruo OF that resolution. But will bo
very glad spend my time in talking the committee,
though hardly think thcy want 10 spend their valuable
time IN talking April - had the traAs-
poItatiOn department :3O7 On, in the machinery de-
psItment 997, in The engineer and fremen department
J ,332 the department 503 in the road depart
mont JJ6. In the bridge department 6l5. ana at
terminal facilities 397-a total of l0,737 mcn-not in
Guiding general officers. The operations of road
and speak fr0n. thirty years experience carried
perfectly regular aud orlerly way. The trains
are all run ana the business chartered do is
being transacted regularly. Here is dispatch re-
ceiveI since left New-Y York This represents the
business that done Up to l2:35 p IN. of TINS iay.
Two hundred and ninety freight trains novel yestor.
day ;onann. 4G7 ioai' an Increase of ~ trains and
lj37 loads compared with the same day OF last year.
Quiet AT all points on the line Trains doing well.
| submit to the committee whether come within the
ruling OF the committee
Mr.. BuInes- believe that this question has been sub
stInay passed upon by the committee and it is the in
tcution of the committee that investigate all the cit
and facts relating to the troubles; and
therefore propose to examine with regard to tho
proceedings aneceent to the resumption of business.
Tne witness-we, thought it only proper that I
should that fact to the committee. AT the date
OF the resolution operating the road In res ular
AMI formal manner and performing all the duties
charter called for.
MI Burnes-rleasc state your residence, age, and oc-
cupatioD.
The witness-r reside In New-York City; am forty
nins years age; president OF the Missouri Pacific
and have beon since 1879.
Mr.. Burnes-we wonid like for you now to inform us II
there has been any interruption to the passing
the lines of road you represent in Missouri Illinois,
Kansas. Arkansas and Texas: and. II so, what inter
tion and far know, the OF that inter
rnpton. - ,. . ,
number OF men employed Dy the Missouri Pacific
lie said that lie was away West Indian cruise when
the strike occurred and such Information he had had
reached him through Official reports He would lie glad
to tell the committee everything he knew but deemed it
knowledge. lie went to recte the story OF his inter-
ysw WIN Mr. rSwey snd the the cSmmttee prior to his
the Missouri Pacific had lived up to its agreement and
fashion and settle any future grievances they might
nave Then the strike cam. after MS departure yet
no grievances aud told strike" He then pro.
duced and read the tecgrams passing between Messrs
strike he had I4,3l5 employees. while the strikers
6sreG only S7 men prncpaay employs, in the
"What followed the striker asked Mr. Gould, show
ing signs OF deep feeling. They seized St. Louis,
Kansas CITY, sedalia Texarkana and mineral
shall run Hf train over that road That is what they
said exclaimed Mr.. Gould. Our loyal employees
their That what followed the strike
iorcibe possesslon-I can't call anything else some
miIlloas OF soldiers behind him"
Missouri Pacific in which 1t Is stated that the strike had
OF the discharge of Hall by the receiver of the
Texas Pacific was read by General swayne.
he would IKE to know what the man had done.
read Receiver Browns statement to the effect that Hall
had been uilty of absenng himself from duty without
rhe letter OF Governor, Marmaduke and Martin was
Mr. Gould interrupted the reading to remark that lie
thought the correspondence showed pretty clearly that
could not drlnk; that the shops were open
but The men refused to work He said that when he
Powderly and Mcdowell u, individuals. My motive
be ae 1 S
lar were so different from the acts OF the association
dory he SAID had 'f told him that TT the men @ were
in rebellion against the order; that they had struck
cate himself by taking away their charter As he
wished to he equally frank witness had shown Mr. Pow
next morning. In which he stated that he objec
tlon 20 arbitration He declared that Msssrs Powdery
and Mcdowell hal no right to MAKE public that
Yet they had changed their plans seeing the telegram
and In the morning had been published broadcast that
jay Gould had consented to their (POwderly and Nc
Dowers plan OF arbitration: That eutterly
the Witness The question or arbitration
had bro.ched that said and had always
been sort of hobby with HIM.
Mr. Gould next read Mr. Powderly dispatch announc-
Ing that Mr.. Gould had recognized him officially as
Grand Master Workman, and saying II was q pleasant
termination OF an unpleasant business That Ind bee
elegraphed TO HIM by Mr. Ilorie and he had received 1t
when he got down town In the morning. Naturally be
lwitness was "mad" when ne that Taking up |
the stenographc report OF his interview with Mr.
ierly. Mr. Gould read that gentleman's denial when
charged with causing the publication He also read
circular ordering the resumption OF work
That was the address they issued when everything
seemed 10 he lovely and IL followed By this pro-
lunciamento on April e. Mr. Gouli then read the circu.
ar OF Martin Irons.
Mr. Burnes- Have you any other documents that you
yshf tn subm 1