The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-08-10


went to the meeting in company with his brother
Henry. Arriving there, he saw nothing 20
speak from and saw the wagon near the corner
of Randolph street Some suggested that
the wagon should be taken to Randolph street.
but he said that the crowd would interfere with
the street cars there Before he began to speak
he asked where Parsons was, and was told that
he was addressing meeting at the corner of
Randolph and Halsted streets. and he went
there with Henry Spies and Schnabault to find
him. The witness said he then returned TO the
wagon with Schnaubelt He did not see Schwab,
as Schnaubelt said he had gone to Deering to
address a meeting there.
Did you go into the alley with Schnaubeltlp
the witness was asked. Answer-No, sir.
The witness stated that Schnaubelt could
not speak English, and be could not have con-
versed with him in that language. Spies said
he made an ordinary speech at the Haymarket.
He said he told the meeting that the masses were
being degraded. He then saw Parsons, and the
latter began his speech. He remembered I'M
important portions Of Parsonss speech, but
could not remember what Fielden said. He said
he remained on the wagon during all the speak
irg He the polics on Randolph street and
heard Captain Ward give the order to dispense
He said ne was helped off the wagon by his
brother Henry and another man. When he had
reached the sidewalk he heard a defamation,
And thought" said the witness, "that the
police were firing cannon to brighten the peo-
pie" He said he went to Zepfs Hall when the
firing began.
did you light the bombln the witness was
asked. Spies smiled, showed his teeth. and re-
piled, Il never did, He said he did not see
Schnaubelt in the alley, and denied Gmers
sto-y. He said that the interview which Mr.
Wilkinson, the reporter, had with him last
January, was substantially true. Spies
in his Office for three years. These given
to him by man who sailed for New Zealand.
He told the reporter in January, as printed,
that there were three Thousand armed Socialists
in Chicago, and described to him how the police
and soldiers could be fought. He had told the
reporter as stated on the trial. that the dyna-
mite was child of the future and would provea
great leveler.
Spies then made what the prosecution cali
fatal admission. fully corroborating their claim
that the armed section had q secret caucus and
had prepared for an attack on the police. Spies
said he wrote the word "Ruhe,s which appeared
in the Arbeiter Zeitung on May 4. He said. the
night before, he received the following letter:
'Mr. Editor, please insert in today's letter box
the word "Ruhe, in prominent letters. He said be
did not know 1t had any Importance, but the
next day Balthasur Rau said 1T was decided by
the armed section to have the word as sign of
warning that they should keep their powder
dry for use against the police He told Rau
that that was foolish, and asked Fischer TO in
form the armed section that it was mistake
Spies then described his arrest by the police.
He declared that the superintendent of police
called him Dutch hound" and ''whelp,n and
made attack on him. Spies said he kept
dynamite in his Office to experiment with, and
carried a revolver, thinking it was good thing
70 be armed. He declared that on the night of
the Haymarket riot, however, he had left his
revolver with ex-Alderman Stauffer. The court
hen adjourned.
Fifteen minutes before the opening of the
afternoon session there was not a vacant seat in
the courtroom. The fact that Spies was the
witness under examination lent an extraordi-
nary amount of interest to the session. The eff
fects of the ordeal of the forenoon were apparent
nm n Ia "A n "A
came in with the other prisoners. He was very
pale and looked anxious and worried His voice
was hoarse and had hollow sound. When the
Judge ordered that he resume the stand, he
drew long breath, as if preparing for terrible
ordeal which he evidently expected the cross
examination to be. He was cross examined by
Mr.. Ingham
How long have you been editor of the Ar
better Zeitungr about six years.
Were you editor-in-chiefqr 'sNo; there was
really editor-in- chief"
''Were you not looked upon as the head of the
editorial departmentW Not so by those con-
nected with the paper. The editorial depart
ment was governed by the publishing company"
What position did Schwab hold on the
paper!" 1.-THE same as did; that of one Of the
editors"
''And neither of you were responsible for the
character of the expressions of the paperp No,
sir"
''How musd were you paid for your servicssr
Eighteen dollars per week"
ssAnd Schwaba" "The same"
"What position did Fischer holdr eThat of
eompoSit0r merely
Spies, in answer to further questions of
similar nature stated that he was paid en-
ploy on the Afbeiter Zeitung: that he looked
over the editorial articles before they were pub
lished, bnt was not responsible for their tone.
Were You editor of the Alarm at any timer
II took charge of it for short time once,
while Mr.. Parsons was absent"
''Did the Arbeiter Zeitung furnish the money
for the defraying of the running expenses Of the
Alarm2"
The defense objected; but after dispute be-
tween the attorneys the witness was told to say
whether he ever received any money for the
Alarm. He had done So and bad paid out some
for expenses incurred by that publication. He
at first could not remember, and then admitted
that he had written articles signed "A. s."
How many bombs did you have in your Of
fce9n
ssFourp
when did you get themw
s"They were brought to me some years ago by
man who said he was from Cleveland
'What kind of bombs were thesey
''Iron, percussion bombs
''What became of the man who brought you
the bombs~ Il never saw him again. He said,
if remember, that he was going to New Zea-
land"
.sAnd when did you get those Gar bombs?'
II never got them. That is an invention of that
reporter A man came there while was at din
ner and left them there. He left the bombs
with the bookkeeper. l never saw him before
or after"
During this examination the witness was very
uneasy and his voice trembled perceptibly. His
agitation increased when the examination was
continued, as follows:
How much dynamite did you have in your
Officer 1.-TWO small packages"
Where did you get it2' "Of powder COM
pany'
why did you purchase this dynamite7r "Oh,
had read great deal about dynamite I thought
would like to investigate further"
why did you wish to investigate furthers'
'Oh. on general principles can't say further"
did you ever experiment with bombs9" mo,
sirv
did not you go to Springfield and witness
some experiments with bombs?" The witness
answered evasively, and the question being re-
peated in another form, the defense objected.
The objection was oyerruIe0. and the witness