New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-06-22
MIR. COWEN on HOME RULE.
A REFORM THAT WILL BE MADE.
MR.. GLADSTONE NAY NOT BE sUCCEssFuL-THE
IRISH LEADERS.
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LONDON. June 2l.-Joseph COwen. member
OF Parliament Newcastle, colleague OF John Morley
and one OF the sckno wedged leaders of the English
friends of Home Rule being asked his opinion as to the
political outlook, spoke with THE TRIBUNE represent
ative follows
"Ivotcd for Mr. Gladstones bill" lie said for have
been in of practical Home Rule for Ireland for
many years past. have been closely associated not
only with supporters of Home Rule but with the
ablest Trshen who have entertained hopes Of
their ntrys redemption. well acquainted with
Smith OBrien ami Meagher of the Sword gallant
earnest hearted man and capital 81 eacr. who
married. and died in Am,rca. I knew John Mitchell
Also and how well he used the English language and
what fire and force OF style he had. The patriots of s
glOwed with the enthusiasm which at that time swept
like wave over Europe did not like Mr. Gladsone's
bili II crudely and hastily drafted; do like his
method tar in conducting this campaign. II Is open
to objection being too theatrical but the principle of
Home Rule for Ireland IA. been put by Mr. Gladstone
into the domain of practical politics. That is, In ITSELF
great rendered, and it will not be taken ont OF
PRACTICAL politics till it has been settled and working
syst built upon it. This expect to see whether Mr..
Gladstone succe Dis or fails in the pending contest
"As lis OF success. they certainly not
good as ne himself to think they are. lie has
pushed matters far and too fast There Is strong
of resistance; less TO Home Rule than TO his
personal course in regard to Home ule ana u Is dc 10
shut ones eyes to this.
"You ask about the great Home Rule meeting which
addressed Thursday last at Birmingham. II was a
very ull necng indeed. The largest hall IL Birming.
ham was crowded. There a great many Irish
there, doubt but there were many Birmingham
Radicals also and there much passion In the meet
ing / sorry TO see how much there OF intensely
bitter feeling the local strife in the party growing
out of Mr.. Chamherlan's secession from the Govern
ment. L. not of good for tho success OF the
Liberals Radicals in this election and there can be no
question that the intelligent educated Radicals OF
Brmin CHAM mainly with Mr.. Chamberlain.
No. / do not think Mr.. Chamerlan's Iian of
National Councils work in Ireland. lie does not
know Ireland as well, perhaps, as | do have seen
good deal of Southern and Western Ireland. and have
long had many friends there The people, with all their
good qualities, and they have many have never had the
necessary training in the management OF their own
affairs which would prevent local councils from degener-
ating into what you in America call rings The people
OF England and Scotland have had this trainings your
in America built the crience of the
town meeting In Southern and Western Ireland the
people have been too long accustomed to group them
selves about local personages and to follow local chiefs
POLITICAL social religious. 1t is question OF training
and OF race. In Newcastle and tie North OF England
generally We have many Irish rcsidents,-thr'ty, In
dustrOus, excellent czens-who In tho second gerera-
ton take tho share in local matters well and useuy
any people DO AS to the religious aspects OF the
matter do believe IN the prosecuting disposition of
the Catholic Irish toward their Protestant negbbors In
my observations of Ireland have on the contrary,
found the Catholics disposed TO he specially liberal and
generous IN their treatment OF Proestants living
among them. taking pains to make their Protestant
acquaintance feel that they not dtruscl because
they PrOtestants.
Yes, Home Rule Will win in the end, ana that Is OF
much greater importance that it should win under
Mr. Gladstone under any other 1t will win with
victory of sound radical democratic ideas not only i'll
ireland but throughout Great Britain.