Morning journal and courier., 1886-07-15


 and he said they must get out.
 Nr. Alling-Did he say who would stay? Ans.-He said Skinner, and that he would be given a frame.
 MT. Alling-Did they say anything about ths cost of the News boycotta Ans.-He said it cost them Ss,000 in the last three months.
 MT. Alling-Had the COURIER office been 8 non-union officea Aus.-Printers could work there whether they were union men or not.
 MT. Alling-Were you present next morn ing when Glidden called at the office? Ans.- No, sir; the next time was there was when MT. Palmer came, few nights afterwards, with MT. Glidden. We went into private office with Mr. Baldwin, MT. Pratt and Mr. Darlington. MT. Palmer said they had come to settle the matter agreeably, and told bim that we wanted to do so. told him
 we were willing to make it union office and pay union prices, but we wanted to re- tain otr men. Mir. Palmer said that seemed to be fair. Glidden spoke then about some of the men and said they couldn't have MT. Gleason in their union. I then said to Mr, Palmer and Glidden, I don't see what is the matter with Gleason; he is a good, sober, industrious man. Glidden said that he. Gleason, was ''rat'; and a ''scab," having
 become so by joining the Typographical union and withdrawing fifteen minutes later. I said didn't they use good deal of persua- sion to get him into the union. Glidden said that he didn't know the facts in the case. then said, what is the matter with Charles Smith, another of our printers; he is quiet little man, who don't chew, smoke or drink and don't say ten words in ten years unless asked some ques- tion. Glidden said, ssWell, I might vote for him, but there are others that wouldn't" l l then asked what was the matter with Will | liam Works, another of our printers. "Oh, | he is a rat," exclaimed Glidden; Che joined l the union and then got out" then asked Glidden who was the printer who had never said Jack Reilly was one. We all denied
 and said it seems the JOURNAL
 AND COURIER want to do what's fair and we can have an agreeable settlement 1 l said l hope we can, as that is what we want. Before they left they said, can you l send us a letter in writinga l said we could this to MT. Darlington. After that we were notified that grand committee of all ] unions would wait on us the next evening at nine o'clock, and about half-past nine they came. They were Mir Glidden, MT. Corper, l Mir. Hanafn, Mir. McNamara, MT. Hunie,
 and other, believe. Mir. McNamara
 represented the Typographical union, Mir: Glidden the Typographical union and Knights of Labor, MT. Corper the Cigar I makers union, MT. Hunie the Knights of Labor, and MT. Hanafn some other trades 1 union.
 AlIing-These men all belonged to secret unions?
 Yes-They came in and first engaged in whispering consultation near the door. Then Hunie stepped into the middle of the floor and said-We give you forty eight hours to make this union office. I said, can tell you in forty eight seconds that we will not do anything of the kind. Hunie then said there is nothing more for us to say and we may go. I said yes, but they didn't go, but sat down, and then asked them what they represented and they told me stated above. Then
 said to Hunie, do you make that demand in the name of the Knights of Labor? He said, do. I said, turning to Mr. Bald win, write that down. Hunie then said, don't make that statement for the K. of l.. I said MT. Baldwin don't write that down. l then told Hunie the circumstances of the | case, but he said they couldn't help it, that l they had their way of doing things. I then and called in Works. He came in and Glidden catechised him. He asked him if he didn't bring a Typographical
 union card from Boston. Works said he did, and Glidden asked him why he didn't bring his card to the Typographical union in this city, to which Works replied l because he did not want to. Didn't you send l for him. asked Glidden. He said, I did and also that he asked Works to meet him at | the News office.
 Mr. Alling-What would have been the eff 1 feet of making your office union office as to your force of employees?
 Mr. Platt-I object
 Mir. Alling-Was anything more said about | making the COURIER a union oficea Ans.- No explanation was necessary. We knew l we would have to give up our men and take l union men.
 Mir. AIing-Was anything said about how I long it would take to boycott you! Ans.-l ! ,7 har hat 1 MT. Alling-Did they state any relative ! time it would take to boycott you? Ans. | They said it took eighteen months to boycott the News, and if it took longer to do it with
 us they would still keep at it. 1 Mr. Alling-Did you have any further con- versation with Gliddens Ans. A day or two after the boycott circular appeared l met l Glidden on the street with 8 covered package | under his arm. MT. E. w. Baldwin was | with me at the time and Glidden stood in I front of us. I asked him if he had more cir | culars in the package. He said he had and l was going to distribute them. He then said | that he would ruin the COURIER if it took eighteen months. He said he had ruined il | that day to the extent of thirty-two sub scribers. I then produced paper and pencil | and said, "You are witness to this, MT. Bald | win" Glidden said, That's right; set il l down. If I have to go to jail my wife will ! carry on my work"
 1 Mr. Alling read the original boycott circu
 lar and it was placed in evidence. On the | conclusion of the reading recess of fvt l minutes taken.
 | After recess MT. Conklin continued: Or 1 the night of the 18th of March, when Nc 1 Namara, Glidden and Mailhouse came into | our office, one of them said q think it was 1 McNamara) that oae of the men could re l main in the office; also MT. Putnam and tht l two boys. I understood them to say tha | they did not make war on old men and chil 1 dren.
 MT. Alling-Do you know Glidden is thf l walking delegate9
 Witness-I have always understood SO and
 he has so represented himself. I have me l Mir. Glidden on several occasions and hay, l told him that he ought to be in better busi 1 ness. He said he intended to continue il | that.
 Cross-examination by MT. Platt: did mo l tell Glidden that ] would follow him like
 brother and see him landed in State prison
 I did not tell him he was deserter from thu | United States army. l did tell him that had heard that he was deserter and that l he kept on he would land in jail. He said
 all right; I will keep right on and report t' you every night If get in jail you bring l me up some tobacco.
 No, sir I never said that the best way tt
 settle this matter was over wine supper
 nor words to that effect.
 MT. Platt-Mr. Hunie was present at thi
 final meeting, was he not?
 Yes sir. No, did not say at that tim
 to Mir. Hunis that all his eloauence woult
 not save Glidden from jail.
 Has there ever been any threat of violence
 toward yous
 | Yes sir-Ar. Busche said to me in tn
 court room to-day, raising his hand, if w
 are convicted it will be bad for you.
 William G. Pratt was next called. He tes
 tifed that MT. Glidden came into the CoUR
 TER office on the evening of March 18th ant
 I said to him that understood that some o
 the COURIER men were not to be allowed t l come into the union and that we could no
 stand that. asked him how it was, and h
 said he did not know. Mir. Pratt then testi fed to facts at the variou
 consultations between the committe
 and the officers of the COURIER. He con ! firmed the other witnesses in the facts re
 garding the threats. Mir. Pratt explaine
 what he considered a union office, which wa
 that members of the union took control O
 the composing room, employed such men a
 they cnose and that practically the ofic could have nothing to say about it as ther
 would be strike if things did not suit tn
 union.
 Yes, it was said by MT. Glidden and on
 other that they could and would ruin us
 we did not comply with their demands. Witness further testified to seeing boycot
 circulars circulated about the street. Sai one of them was handed to him by Glidden