Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-04-09

n they had legislators in both countries He
believed that Great Britain would never I'M
pose upon Ireland taxation without repre-
seniaton, amt added: II we were To nave
taxation without representation then there
would come anOth question which would
raise practical difficulty, ana that is; Are
we to give ND that fiscal unity OF the empWeF
FISCAL UNITY FAVORED.
He did not think that by giving up the fiscal
unity OF the empire they were giving up the
unity Of the empire. lie. however, stood
upon the substantial ground that to give up
the fiscal unity of the empire would be a
public inconyeniCnce and misfortune. II
would be a great misfortune for ireland. He
conceived that one escape from that dilemma
would be such an arrangement as would
give the imperial government authority TO
levy customs duties and such
excise duties as were medateIy
| connected with the customs. The conditions
OF such an arrangement were, FIRST, that the
general power o! taxation over ana above
those particular duties should pass unequiyo-
caly into the hands of the domestic legls-
| lature in Ireland; secondly, that The proceeds
of customs iu excise should be hed for the
benefit OF Ireland and for the discharge of
I the obligations of Ireland, and the paw ment
Of the balance after these Obligations were
discharged should be entered into the lrlsh
eXchequer and be for the free disposal oi the
Irish legislative body.
NO SEAT IN ENGLAND.
The government bill provided Tor this, and
the bill then provided that the representa-
tiyes OF Ireland should no longer SIT IN the
House Of Commons or Irish peers In the
House Of Lords but at the same time the
would have the right of addressing the
crown and possess all the consntuuondi
rights they held new. 'Oh y ana cheers II
would therefore. relieve the Irish members
from attendance at Westminster. Inc
next subject he had to approach was
that of the composition of the proposed legls-
lative body. The bill proposed 10 introduce
two orders, who would sit and deliberate TO
gether, with the right Of voting separately on
any occasion ana on demand OF euher nOdy
which should be able to interpose veto upon
any measure for limited time, either until
dissolution. or for three years.
HOW CONSTITUTED.
The orders would be constituted as follows:
First there were 2S representative peers
who could not continue to sit IN the House OF
Lords after the representatives of the Irish
people left the House of Commons. They
would have the option Of sitting as porl ION
of the first order on the Irlsn Parliament WIN
the power Of sitting for life, Some people
thought that option Wa5 not likely 10 Oe largely
improved, but the speaker was not OF that
number. Hear! Heart He proposed that
with the 2S Pee rs now in the House oi Lorus
there should sit I5 representatives elecleu Oy
the Trish people. With regsrd to the powers
Of election. the constituency would be COM
posed of Occupiers of the value of f25 ana up
wards, and they would be elected Tor ten
years. The property qualification OF these
representatives would be E20o annual value
on a capital value Of t4,OOO-
Mr.. Gladstone then said he proposed
that the 10l Irish members in the House
of Commons should be members of the
Irish Parliament, and whilst the first or
der OF the legislative body would consist
of 103 members, the second order would
consist OF 2O6.
THE VICEROY.
1t was proposed 10 retain the VicerOy,
but he would not be a representative of a
\ HNgs. Ntrfaf I'M
! government. The Queen would be en-
| powered to delegate to him any prerOga-
! tives she now enjoyed or would enjoy.
The religious disability now existing
which makes Roman Catholics in-
eligible to office would be removed.
The proposition of imperial burdens
which he had to propose that Ireland
should bear was as one TO fourteen. tie
thought that the new Irish Parliament
ought to start with a balance to ITS credit,
that the only fund that it would have if
lett alone would be the solitary 920,00
from the irish church fund. He knew no
way of providing the necessary money
except by carving it out of this years
budget, and be proposed that in the tu-
ture Ireland should pay One-ffteenth to-
wards the imperial expenditure. He
went on to speak of how much Ireland
would gain by exporting spirits to Great
Britain and how much Great Britain
would lose to Ireland by the flow OF money
from one to the other.
THE PREMIER's FIGURES.
As the result Of careful inquiry, he
stated with confidence, not as an actual
demonstration, but as a matter Of GER
tainty with regard to the far greater por-
tiOn, that the Irish receipts would gain
from Great Britain a sum that would
amount to no less a total than G1 400, 600
per annum. He then entered into an
elaborate calculation Of the total income
and expenditure of Ireland, in the course
of which he stated that the total charge 10
Ireland as an imperial contribution
ne put at &3. 242 600 per annum. He esti-
mated the total expenditure of Ireland,
including payment as a sinking fund for
the Irish portion Of the national debt, at
&7, 7,946, 600 per annum. Against that there
was a total income Of fS.350, 900, or sur
plus to the good Of 100000.
APPEALING TO THE MEMBERS.
have no ight 10 say that Ireland through
her cOnstituuonaily elected members Will ac-
cept the measure propose. hope they Will
but have no right TO assume it. nor have
any power t. enforce ~ upon the people of
England ami scotland, hut rely on the pa
trio ism and sagaclty Of this House, on free
and full discussion, and, more than all, upon
the Just and generous sentiments Of two Brit
ish natiOus, and looking forward / ask the
House, believing that no TRIVIAL motive uli
have driven us to asset In the work we have
undertaken-a work which we believe will
restore Parliament TO its free and unimpeded
course. I ask them 10 stay the waste Of
ublic treasure und-r the present system OF
government and inistratlOn In ireland,
which H. not a waste only, but waste which
demOrallLes while lt eNhausts. / ask them 20
show TO Europe aud America that we too can
face the political problems which America
had 10 face twenty years ago. and which many
countries in Europe have been called on 10
face and have not feared to deal with J ask
that we shall practice as We have very often
preached and that in our own case we should
be firm and fearless IN applying doctrines we
ion OF local self government IS not way tosap
and impair but TO strengthen and C lns0ldate
unity. | ask that we shuuld learn TO rely less
on mere written stipulatiOns and more on
those better stipulationH written on the heart
ana mind Of man. ] AJAX that We should aD-
ply 10 Ireland the happy experience we have
gainei In England aud ecOtlani. whore
the course Of generations has now
taught ua not as n dream or theory, but az u
matter OF practice and Of life. that The beat
and eurest foundation we can find 10 build on
Is the foundation Afforded by the affections,
and convictions, and Will of man, and that it
ID thus by the decree Ol the Almighty that far
more than by any other method We may be
enabled 20 secure AZ once social happiness,
power, and permanonce Of empire.
Mr. Gladstone resumed his seat amid
bursts Of enthusiastic cheers, which were
sustained for several minutes.
Mr.. Gladstone's speech was 3 hours and
% minutes IN duration. lie finished at 8
O'clock.
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