The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-04-08
THE FORTY:NINTH CONGRESS-
Senator Logan's Bill to Increase the
Strength of the Army Defeated.
Hr. Van Wyek Stirs Up Mr.. Hawley. and the
Latter Gentleman Discusses Labor Troub-
les-Routine Proceedings in the House.
THE SENATE.
Senator Hawley Talks About Labor Strikes
naGanA of Innan,a Army Bill.

WASHINGTON, April .-Afte the routine
morning business, which was very light, Mr..
Gall, according to notice, proceeded to address
the Senate on his resolution instructing the
committee on public lands 70 report a bin to for
felt all railroad IMMIGRANTS not earned within
ibe time specified in the granting act or acts
attending the time.
it the conclusion Of Mr.. Calls remarks the
public lands.
Mr.. Hawley then took the floor on the army
Pill, and spoke In its support. Are We" said
he, ITO understand the military is powerless to
render us protection against riots, thefts or ar
son9" Mr.. Hawley, in making this remark, had
no reference to the great mass of the people,
However organized, whether Knights of Labor
Or anything else. He referred to the instance in
which honest labor met at Trafalgar square,
n London, and at which all the bad elements at
5nce came forward. and almost paralyzed the
whole city of London. A few dozen blackguards,
In such a case, could do great harm. He re-
terred to the great riots in New York, in 1863.
Mr.. Teller said that was a case of warf
Mr.. Hawley replied that all riots were a case
Of war. AS to the use Of the militia to put down
riots, Mr.. Hawley asked how the people of Penn
sylvania, for example, would like the idea of
New Jersey militia coming into Pennsylvania to
put down a riot in the latter State. The United
States forces would have respect in every State.
Mr.. Miller remarked that if we were to have a
great war, like that between France and Ger
many, it would not be fought by the regular
army, but by volunteers. He thought Mr.. Haw-
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90 be used as a police force.
Mr.. Teller denied that such was a proper use
Of the army. When State governments came to
depend on the regular army of the Nation to en-
force State laws, our Republican government
would be ar an end. The people of the great
West were not asking for a standing army, and
4 the people Of Connecticut wanted one, the
patriotism of that State was declining.
Mr.. Hawley, with great warmth, repealed the
suggestion which. he said, was implied by the re-
marks of Mr.. Teller. He denied with emphasis
that he wanted the army used for police pur-
poses. and did not thank the Senator from Col
orado for endeavoring to put him in the wrong
In this matter, and endeavoring to array against
him [Mr. Hawleyl the prejudice of demagogues.
The Senator from Colorado had endeavored to
create the impression that he Mr.. Hawleyl
would use the federal army to interfere with the
will Of the people. He emphatically denied that
be had said anything of the kind. He was not,
however, such a coward, he said, as to refuse to
say that any man in the United States, whoever
ne might be, who refused to obey the laws
should be compelled to do SO. The Senate of the
United States was the place in which a man
ought to speak in the light of his duty to the
Constitution. There was no man in the Senate
or elsewhere who would more rigidly than Mr..
Hawlgy hold the army, either State or federal,
to It's duty as the mere tool and instrument of
civil power. He had, from time to time, though.
it would be merciful, and would be good for the
people, who were suffering. to employ
shem as Mr.. Powderly, with the Knights of La
Dor, would employ them, in accordance with the
constitution of the knights of Labor, in putting
down some of the thieves and scoundrels that
were Disappearing in the name of labor. Mr..
Hawley considered Mr.. Powderly a man of more
conservatism and standing in this country than
some mon on the floor of the Senate.
Mr.. Teller disclaimed any intention of saying
anything unfair or anything personal toward the
Senator from Connecticut Mr.. Hawley.
Mr.. Van Wyek, referring to Mr.. Hawley's re-
mark about the Knights of Labor. asked if they
had petitioned for any increase of the army?
The arguments for the increase of the army Mr..
Van Wyck thought rather singular. Some Sem
ators had said it was wanted because of the In
lians, and some because Of the Communists.
The Senator from Connecticut Mr.. Hawleyl
had said he wanted the army to support the
civil law and the Constitution. Referring to the
fugitive slave law, and its execution in New
England, Mr.. Van Wyck said the United States
army had been thrust In the way of the fugitive
slave fleeing for life and liberty. He asked Mr..
Hawley whether New England had changed
3ince then7
Mr.. Hawley replied that it had.
Mr.. Van Wyck said the army had done police
1uty in keeping the fugitive slave from freedom.
Mr.. Hawley remarked that he had never be-
deved the fugitive slave law to be constitutional
MIR. Van Wyck said the secret of the whole
matter was to be found in the idea of using the
army as a great police power. as it had been
used as a police power to keep the slave in slav-
cry. Jay Gould and his confederates, and Van
derbilt and his confederates, had been allowed
TO steal millions, just as men. under the old in
depreciation of the Constitution, had been al
lowed to steal from the black man his birth
right. you have raised" said Mr.. Van Wyck,
ssanother class of shareholders, Just as unrelent.
Ing and, determined, and steeled against the in
situations of humanity. as the old Shareholders
wore, and | think q little more SOL The Knights
of Labor, he continued, had no sympathy with
the
here four times already, at different sessions of
the Senate; and it was therefore beneath any
man to say that it was brought here because of
Gould or Vanderbilt. 1t was so low a species of
demagoguism that no man ought to stoop to it
Mr.. Van Wyck-is that all2 daughter.
Mr.. Logan-That is all.
Mr.. Van Wyck said that was the old argu-
ment. He. remembered that in the old DAYS in
the House OF Representatives it was not the gen.
slemea of the South alone that had stigmatized
men as ''demagogues.s Certain gentlemen from
ghe North had also. in those days, stigmatized
men as 'demsgoenes."
Mr.. Van Wyck referred to decisions of the
Supreme Court unfolding the fugitive-slave law,
said that court decided cases according to the
wishes Of the proprietors of the times The
.'strikes' of labor Mr.. Van Wyck regarded as
like the strike of Anthony Burns when he struck
for liberty,
Dir. Hawley. replying to Mr.. Van Wyck. said
II was seldom that the Senator from Nebraska
missed an ODuOrtuulty to make miSohiaf He
seldom made the mischief, but his never failed to
Try. If there was a disturbing element, a doubt
Jul question, o misrepresentation anywhere, that
Senator lowered over it. exaggerated it,
made himself the prophet and champion
Of it, and attacked the motives of every
member of the Senate. That Senator
might always DO trusted to apnear at precisely
the wrong time, saying the precisely unjust
thing. Mr.. Hawley wished the Senator from
Nebraska had spoken more plainly, and, since
he had not. Mr.. HaMiey would translate his in.