St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-04-14
GLADSTONE SPEAKS,
And is Given Leave TO IntrOd nc
His Bill.


Mr.. Gladstone, amid cheers from the
ministerial benches and the Parnellites,
rose TO reply.
He denied that the safeguards prescribed in
the bill were dictated by distinct of the Irish
people. On the contrary. they were inserted
in consequence of the mistrust that was felt,
no doubt, honestly by others. He then re-
capitulated the conditions he had in his OPEN
ing speech laid down rs the guarding
principles of the proposed legislation,
adding that he had no intention
TO put the control of the customs and excise
and the absence of Irish members from the
house vital principles of the bill. Since
then il had been suggested that the Irish
members might come with limited powers or
with diminished numbers. Mr.. Whitbread
had easily remarked that an interval OF alb
sence from the house would be necessary on
the part of the Irish members and for purely
Irish purposes, Mr.. Gladstone could not
think it would be right for the government
TO take it upon themselves at this stage of
the bill TO
CLOSE THE DOOR
on the consideration of these matters. Re
plying to Mr.. Goschen, Mr.. Gladstone, re-
ferring TO what he had himself said in refer
ence TO the expressed wishes of the Irish
representatives. reminded the house that he
had coupled his remarks as to the necessity
of considering these wishes, with the condi-
ton that what might be done should be con-
empire. The house had been asked in what
country, save Ireland could no-rent mani
festo be produced, but the reply TO that was
another query as TO what other country
could show state of relations such as had
led TO that manifesto. The Irish people had
borne with exemplary patience sufferings of
the most grievous character, and was it 10
be supposed that such things could have been
without leaving any trace or mark on the
character of the people. Having defended
and justified his previous references TO analo-
gies for what he proposed as in the eases Of
Sweden and Norway and Austria and Hun
gary, Mr.. Gladstone proceeded to argue that
the
FUNDAMENTAL FEAR
of those who had attacked the home-rule
measure was that the Irish people would nee
eSSarily DO wrong, that the administration of
the country would necessarily be changed.
Cries of hear! hearl In regard TO Mr..
Goschen's remarks concerning America, Mr..
Gladstone said it was true that the Northern
states had carried their point, but when they
had the South at their feet what did they do?
They gave every Southern state measure of
autonomy. Loud Parnelite cheers.
such measure we are about to ask for Ire
land. In regard to the questions as TO the
power of veto proposed by the bill, he
stated that there was no limitation to that
proposition, and, in reference to the income
tax, that would necessarily be as separate in
Ireland as it would be in England. OF the
bill generally. he said it proposed TO give to
the Irish people a reasonable satisfaction of
their demands, initiating the examples by a
former government in
THE CASE OF AMERICA.
The wants of Ireland were TO be considered
in relation to the fact whether it would be
harmful 20 others that they should be
granted. He ridiculed the fear that had been
expressed as to further demands on the part
of the Irish members if this bill were passed,
and, as to the question of there having been
no mandate for this measure. he contended
that inasmuch as there had been no mandate
for coercion or for maintaining the law. so
no mandate was necessary for a proposal to
strengthen the means of maintaining the law.
He compared the criticisms on the bill.
and pointed out that no one speech
agreed with another, and speaking of the
measure as plan he remarked that il might
be improved. But at any rate it held the
field, as also did the subject. Loud cheers.
The bill, he said, was produced under cir
cumstances of
GREAT PRESSURE.
but he contended that the time had come
when it was necessary for parliament to say
whether 1t would make a bold attempt TO
establish a system of Irish laws under an
Irish parliament, or whether they should
struggle on as before, leaving England and
Scotland to famine of needful legislation
and ireland to a continuance of social disease
and eternal discord. Loud and prolonged
cheers.
A motion that leave be given to introduce
the bill was put by the speaker and agreed
to without a division, amid protracted and
enthusiastic cheering. Mr.. Gladstone stated
that the second reading of the bill would be
fixed for the 9th of May. Mr.. Gladstone
spoke for an hour. He made no formal
proposals looking to modification of the
Irish bill. His most significant declaration
was that he had never regarded the exclu-
sion of the Parnellites from the house as a
vital principle of the bill. He had said that
the present Irish representation could not
continue, but that the exclusion of the Irish
members must be the voluntary work of
Irishmen themselves.
Denounced by the Oranremeu.