New-York tribune., 1886-03-21
CASEY YOUNG'S TESTIMONY.
HIS SIDE OF THE PAN-ELECTRIC STORY.
THE COLONEL AND DIR. ROGERS STAND ny EACH
OTHFR RIGHT NOBLN.
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again occupied the stand in the telephone inveStsaoh
to-day and gave some testimony mingled with great
amount Of argument Frequent efforts were mhue ny
members OF the committee TO Induce him 10 cohhne i
self to statements OF facts and allow thcm 10 supPJ
the Inference but he persisted IN declaring es he ala
yesterday, that lie would tell MS HloIy III H
ovn ,uv At last Mr. Ranncy remarked that nc did
NOT wnn TO hear arguments from witness, ana CoIohel
Young replied 81 know you don't want TO- DuV you
will have to-" Mir. RanDey's protest against suon
r.nlv WAS promptly sustained by the chairman ana
Colonel Oates and Colonel Young Was admonished tha'
Ia ,ue, connne himself to facts. His account OF tho
orgontzstion OF local campancs agreed Substantially
with that given by the Rogrrses. but he stl hahhtu
that ne and The other confederate" dd not acquire t"e
Pan Electric interests by gift 1t was plain from some
Of his questions and remarks that Chairman Boy taxes
the ground that "iucorporaors simply Garland ana
his mariners were not entitled to interest In the
company only elements of value were the
p?tents for which mad paid nothing II seems hat
al the first meeting OF the Pan-E oro Telephone Com
many Johnson Garland and Rogers were
| arrolnted committee 10 negotiate Win
that "odious monopoly" tho Bell Company. II
appears too that an opinion in favor Of tho validity OF
the Pan.Elecric patents obtained from MI aAfOe'
e1Conmissoner OF Patents, whose name Is down IN te
Pan Electric books the holder OF $4,000 OF slocN
suit to the Bell patent was begun at
! Memphis in April, 1850. 1t has not boon GeclNed.
! Colonel Young let out the fact that Van Ben
| thuysens application to the Attorney General
| TO bring suit was under contract
| between tic National Improved and Pan-Elcctrc com
| panies concluded in July last, and copy OF "hich
Young has agreed to produce. This testimony was e1
| tremey important
Colonel Youpr's version of the convorsauon with the
Rocerses differed from theirs lie sMd the first one took
! place at their house August l; that II related
10 the application that Van Benthnysen had made thA
he told them II the law was ~ Van Bentnuysen
stated Mr. Garland would la obliged to bring The SUIT
] TouO a
! have known-that the Van Benthuysen Application was
withdrawn July 81 the assu ance that such acton
was in accordance with the views OF tho Attorney
General" Van Benthuysen testified before secretary
Lamar that for Withdrawing the suit was tue
| discovery that tho law not in existence
| the bill having failed in the last Congress
Colonel denied point blank that he ever told the
Rogerses that Garland had promised that the suit
should be brought lie admitted thai he cautioned J'
Harris Rogers against saying anything about the Gov
ernnent suit or union Of National Improved ana
FaDElectrc neres snd yet he testified also that he
told the same men that the Pan-Eectric Company must
not he mixed up IN any way with the Government HuiI
because GaanGs personal interest in the company
When Colonel Young entered the committee room this
morning lie carried under his two large letter booSs
and sevorol nacknces Of letters. When he took the
stand he produced number OF letters which hc had re-
ceved from Mr. Rogers and submitted them 10 the COM
! mttee lrst handing them TO Nh. Rogers, who waived
them away say us that there was not letter "e Ao
| vi withdraw. 10
which he held with Dr. ROSers In which an association
,vs si,esiod witness stated that Dr. Rogers wanted
the various men in account Of their great names
and their integrity and honesty. Colonel Young hau
heard nothing about the stock being GIT or DONATION
though he had not educated up To the hgh stand
ard which would havo regarded the acceptance OF the
sft AS a crime. Never had word bueI sd about tho
associates using thsr official influence or taking advdu-
rare OF their Official position 60 accomplish ah} iulHS or
the company. Never had word boen said which could
not with propriey have bscn published 10 the world
without bru .ins dscredi to any mau. II Dr. Rogers
had had his mind anything corrnpt IN tho transaction
-.rne had wanted aay corrupt thing Gonc-Ae would
not have gone 20 ANY OF a. men TO do It, lie "aHI''
to disspato The lca That the associates wcr' In az! way
to prostitute their official positions for the ncc'mpl'h-
m-nt Of any benefit to tAo company Any
| su,h intillaton WAS an uutOuudcd c1.umHy
| yi;uou a particle OF truth 20 sulqo. t.
no man had ever said word that could 3e tortured or
construed into intention to do anything corrupt o.
! improper
llr Eanney havingin one OF lis questions made uso
OF the expression ground oor' interrupted hy thS
wucss with the remark. contcmT.aoasy male;
"Groaud noori Iou know move about tho ground Aoor
than DO"
A smile was on every face when in tho course OF the
wucss's testimony Ne5srs. oates ana H4Hpac@ chtitu
the room laden down with letters aud papers n the case
Colonel Young said that the agreement vas moi drawn
M, 70 stand = in!icll examination, but simply embodied
the ideas Of the partners. lie believed nc had aug
ge.cd the name PanI1ectrie" believed the contract
was ca culated deceive ono, buJ woao iu4J c1-
hibit the facts in the case to any wod!d-be
| investors Hs IDEA was that tho parties TO
tbe agreement were to own all tho stock
as "A company and not Individually. Of course he knew
that was not ol legal proposion hut any difficulty
that might grow OF that clause could have been cor
rected when tie stock should be Issued lie did not be
leyc Il would Do good policy to allow lndT.o-"- mem
bevs o. the company to run around ant sell stock.
.y,g, ,t.tt tle
10 allow Nj Oates's subcommittee to report upon the
papers The suu-commttee reported that thrty-scyen
letters were found to be relevant and seYeT hundred
irrelevant The letter about when M D. H. Rogers hAA
po Yesterday was found TO be irrelevant In the Judg-
ment OF the subcommittee, but was submitted for the
| action Of the committee.
| Mr. Mon,t-Did you read all the poetry
Nj Hanback, lwca.iyJ-Oh, yes, we read tho poetry
The report OF the committee was accepted and colonel
Youuc continued hs statement lie sad his idea was
that the company should constitute as an associated
holr or Il oiut stock company with capital stock Of
$4,000 600 The patents represented all OF the capital
! when witness had gone to Memphis Dr Rogers had
written several letters urging that the char
| ter be taken out, and witness Aad lelA'd
that the season was duh and the matter had better
await the re-asseubns of Congress when witness with
| tJe other associates would DO in Washlncton
The certificate o. Incorporation Of the Tennessee Com
| uauy-tLc telephone compary-Uhs put ID evidence IL
T. srrod hv J. Harr, Eoycrs. isAam g. Harris, Angus
tus H. Garland, AMI Robert T. L)uhey li' c'p'td 'eiS
100000. Sir. Young sad that thcy had laled to get
rl,arer broad enough TO meet the terms II tie cone
| tract lie denied that the pamphlet described by
d. Rogers had formed the basis of the con
! ,i,gt lie believed that h' haf s"en It
! before tho organization. but certainly the eom-
pany never authorized Ia pno"@tiIon. Colonel
Young then turned TO the minutes OF Tie first meeting Of
the couaay with the statement that he should have TO
dissfu,to a good many that these newspaper
writers had been getting MP. Pausing at paragraph
d. said that the association .aI contemplated possible
connection of the telephone exchanges. We we're not
oue So well educated tel pA0uic matters them, lie
i remarked.
Mr.. Rauney-Do ysu mean that you had trouble with
! the Bell Company
Colonel Youu.-Yes. land with t.nce OF bitterness