The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-07-23
Afternoon Session.
The House reassembled at PIG.

Afternoon Session.
/ The House reassembled at PIG
LEAVE OF ABSENCE.
/ Mr. Dickey asked for leave of absence
! for one week. Granted.
! ORDER OF THE DAY.
| Mr.. Hayselden moved the order OF the
| day. Agreed TO.
Third reading OF an Act TO amend see
ton 517, OF article 10, of the Civil Code, re-
lating to duties on spirituous liquors.
On motion OF the Hon. Mr. Cleghorn the
bill passed
Third reading OF an Act amendatory of
section ,, of chapter %, OF the Session
Laws of 1878, relating to import duties
{ upon wines.
Mr. Hayselden moved the bill be referred
to the Tariff Committee. There was only
one reason for it-cigars are included at
the same duty as before and it is the in
tention of the Tariff Committee to raise the
duty.
Hon. Mr.. Cleghorn thought that $40
thousand on cigars was sufficient duty
He believed in getting all the duty possible
out OF liquors and cigars, as they were
legitimate objects He did not think any
benefit would come from the change as
proposed.
Mr.. Hayselden said cigars were the only
thing in the present law the Tariff Commit
tee wished to increase. He withdrew his
motion, and moved that cigars be struck
out of the bill.
Mr.. Brown thought the Act should pass
without any change. If the Tariff Com
mittee wanted to bring in an Act later for
cigars, they could do it; there would be no
conflictment
The bill was referred to the Tariff Com
mittee.
Third reading of an Act to provide for
the payment of salaries and other expenses
of the Government until the passage of the
Appropriation bill.
Mr.. Dickey moved the bill be referred to
the Judiciary Committee. Lost.
Mr.. Richardson moved the bill pass.
Mr.. Dickey was offering an amendment
to the bill, when the Attorney General rose
to point of order, that question was
being put and an amendment was out of
order.
The President ruled the amendment out
of order, whereupon Mr.. Dickey appealed
against the ruling of the Chair.
Mr.. Dole said the vote had not been
taken, and therefore the amendment was
in order. He did not like to see an attempt
to freeze member out
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said he was
surprised at Mr.. Doles action. If that
was the rule, why the members of the OPP
position could get up after a vote ut any
time and move an amendment. He agreed
with the ruling of the Chair.
Mr.. Dickey said the President had ruled
wrongly, and he hoped he would withdraw
it.
Mr.. Hayselden supported the ruling of
the President. because he was obliged to
complete the putting of all motions before
him after he had commenced.
Mr.. Dole said Mr. Hayselden was wrong.
There was no rule to support his remarks.
The President stated that he had no de
sire to enforce any new rule on the House.
He would ask the Hon. Mr.. Bishop to give
his opinion.
Hon. Mr.. Bishop said that it seemed to
him that Mr.. Dickey was just a little too
late If he had addressed the Chair before
order.
Mr. Dickey moved the ayes and noes be
taken. Lost.
The ruling of the Chair was sustained,
by a vote of % to 3.
The bill was then passed.
THE TAX BILL.
Mr.. HayseIden moved the Tax bill be
taken up. Carried.
Consideration of the Tax bill in Com
mittee of the Whole, Mr. Kaunamano in
the chair.
Mr.. Hayselden moved section , pass as
in the bill.
Mr. Dickey moved the words credits,
dues be struck out of section ,. If the
honorable member for Lahaina owed him !
81 900, and had not paid it on July LIST, he
(the speaker was taxed on his books for
that 81 900, because it was due to him;
while the honorable member was taxed on
that same money, because he had it in his |
possession. Therefore, that was double /
taxation.
Mr. Brown was in favor of the amend |
ment
Mr. Thurston said it would be double |
taxation if they taxed credits and dues.
Mr. Hayselden said that the honorable /
members Dickey, Brown and ThurstOn are |
either not honest or they have not read the |
bill Section Is says a man has the privi- /
Iege of deducting from the sum total of /
such credits such debts only unsecured /
by trust deed, mortgage or other lien on /
real or personal property as may be owing /
by such person, firm or corporation, to !
bona fide residents of this Kingdom. That |
does not make double taxation. II they /
do not know it they ought TO.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said that as
the three gentlemen were unanimous in I
their opinion he took it this was their /.
strongest point. He then went on TO show /
that they were wrong.
Mr.. Dole said that unless people owed /
him he could not deduct what he owed to
others.
Mr.. Hayselden-It is not so.
Mr. DOLE say it IS
Mr.. HayseldeR-I say ii is not
Mr.. Dole said it would not do for Mr..
Havselden TO make them believe that the
bill did not say what was printed III it,
because he thought it was the weakest
thing he ever saw for tax law. He
then addressed the House at some length in