Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1886-04-09

pensions of those particular judges. In the
future the judges will be appointed by the
Irish government and be paid out of the con
solidated fund and be removable only or
joint address of the two orders. The consta.
bnlsry would remain under the present term,
| of service and under their present authority.
The charge for the constsbulsry, now 1900.
/ 600 pounds per snnum, and the speaker felt
confident that the change would be reduced.
but for the present he proposed to relieve the
Irish legislative body of all expenditure for
constseulary in excess OF l,000,0 900 pounds
per annum
With respect TO the civil service the gov
ernment didn't think their case was the same
as that of the constabulary and the transfer
OF the civil service to the legislative body
would effect great economy. He. therefore,
thought II would be wise TO authorize the
civil servants now serving to claim pensions
that would be due them upon the abolition OF
their offices. provided they served two wears
IN order to prevent inconvenience from rapid
transition OF service and at the close of that
time both parties should be free to negotiate
afresh. That was all Gladstone stated that
he had TO say on the subject of the new Irish
constitution.
The proposition Of the imperial burdens
which he had to propose that Ireland had to
bear ~as as one TO fourteen. Tie thought the
new Irish Parliament ought TO start with \
balance 10 its credit, but the only fund it
would have if left alone would be the solitary
5000 pounds from the Irish church fund. He
knew no way of providing the necessary
money, except bv carving il out OF this wears
budget, and he proposed that in the future
Ireland should pay one-titteenth toward the
imperial expenditure.
Speaking of the trade between Great Brit
ain and Ireland he said the Irish receipts
would gain from Great Britain SUN that
would amount to no less total than 400. 600
pounds per annum on spirits alone. He then
entered into an elaborate calculation of the
total income and expenditure of Ireland, in
the course OF which he stated that the total
charge to ireland as the imperial contribution
he put at 3,242, 900 pounds per anuum.
He estimated the total expenditure of Ire.
land, including the payment of the sinking
fund as the Irish portion of the national debt,
at $4,000 pounds per snnum. "Itha nat
urally been said in England and Scotland. =
continued Gladstone, that for a great MANY
years past we have been struggling to pass
good laws for Ireland. and that we have sac
rihc d our time, neglected our interests aud
paid our money, and we have done all th. in
An endeavor to give Ireland good laws. That
is quite true in regard to the course of legis.
latlon since lS49. Many of those laws have
been passed under an influe nee which can
hardly describe other than the influence of
fear" He didn't deny the good intentions
OF the British Parliament to pass good laws
for Ireland, but" he said, Sin order to
work out the purposes of the government
there Is something more in this world occa.
slonaily required than passing good Hear
Hear Ii Is sometimes necessary not only
that COED laws be passed, but also that they
be passed by the proper persons. The pass
ing OF many good laws are not enough in a
case where strong instincts of the people.
distinct marks of character, situation and
history require not only that these laws
should be good but that thev should proceed
from congenial and native sources, and that
besides being good laws they should be their
own laws Irish cheers. ''At times |
doubted whether this necessity had been fully
developed and especially with respect to Ire.
land. If doubts could be entertained before
the last general election they cannot now he
entertained The principle have laid down
Is not for Ireland exceptionally. When |
held Office at the Colonial office 80 ,ars ago,
the colonies were governed from Downing
street. The result was that the home gov
ernmant was always in conflict with those
countries which had legislative assemblies
The British Parliament tried to pass good
Laws for the colonies, hut the colonies said
We don't want your good laws and Parliament
AZ length admitted the reasonableness of this
prlnclple. This principle now comes home
TO us from across the seas, and the House has
now to consider whether it is applicable to
the case OF Ireland We now stand face to
face with what Is termed Irish nationality.'
venting itself in a demand for general self
government in Irish, not in imperial aff tirs."
In conclusion Mr.. Gladstone said: II
ho.d that there is such a thing as local pa
triotlsm, which in itself is not bad but good
Cheers A Welshman is full of local
patriotism, Scotchman is full of local pa
tri0tsm The Scotch nationality is as strong
as 1t ever was and if need more TO arise. If
| read Irish history Alright misfortune and
calamity have welded her sons to their soil
with an embrace yet closer than it has else
where and the lrishman is still more pro-
foundly Irish, but it doesn't follow that be-
cause local patriotism is strong he should be
incapable of imperial patriotism. There are
two modes OF Presenting the subject which
have argued. One of them is to present what
we now present as good and the other is to
present 1t as the choice Of evils and as the
least among varied evils with which as pos
sibillties we are confronted. Well, | have
argued the matter "a if it had been a choice of
evils | don't know whether it may appear too
bold but 10 my own heart | cherish a hope
that this is not merely choice of lesser
evil, but that II may prove to be ere long
good i'll itself. Loud cheers. There is,
know, an answer to this, and what is the an
swer? The answer is only found in the view
which rests on the basis of despair, of the
absolute condemnation of Ireland and Irish
men as exceptions to those beneficial pro-
visions which have made in general Euro
peans, especially Englishmen and Americans,
are capable of self government; that Irish
men is lusus nature; that Justice, common
sense, moderation. natural prosperity have
no meaning for him; that all he can under
stand and all that he can appreciate is strife
and perpetual dissension. Now, sir, | am
not going to argue in this House whether
this view, this monstrous one, is the correct
one. say Irishmen are as capable of 10y
atty as any other man. Renewed Cheers. |
But if his loyalty has been checked why it is
because the laws by which he is governed
don't present themselves to lin as thev do to
us in England or Scotland with the native and
congenial element. | have no right to say
that Ireland, through her constitutionally
elected members, will accept the measure
propose. | hope that they will but have no
right to say so, nor have anv power to en-.
force it on the people of England and Scot
land but rely on the patriotism and sagac-
ity of this Housp On free and full d;sou.