The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-05-22
Nays-Messrs. Bingham, Conner, Frenzel Kuhn,
Stratford and Thomson g.

Stratford and Thompson, 6.
The fourth proposition carried: Yeas-Messrs.
Bambergey, Carey, Conner, Greenstreet, Merritt.
and Vonnegut, G. Nays-Messrs Bingham, Fren-
Eel. Kuhn. Stratford and Thompson. 5. The fifth,
sixth and seventh propositions were adopted,
while the eighth was not cOncurred in. The
ninth proposition was not adopted: Yeas
Messrs. Bamberger, Conner. G-eentreet and
Vonnegut, A. Nays-Messrs. Bingham, Carey,
Frenzel, Kuhn, Merritt, Stratford and Thomp-
son, z.
To the tenth proposition recommendation
Mr. Frenzel moved the amendment that all ex-
peEses of the library be charged to the library
fund, including rent and insurance Mr.. Carey
said this would have the effect of cutting off the
supplies to the library, and would prevent the
purchase of periodicals and new reading. Mr..
Carev said he would vote for the change. believ-
ing the library to be department of the service
to which they could call the aid of the Legislature
in increasing taxation for it's benefit. Mr.. Fren-
zels substitute carried On the eleventh recon-
mendation no action taken.
The savings under the propositions that were
finally adopted will amount to about $l2 600.
Mr.. Stratford moved that no insurance pol
icies be renewed except on the library building
and two frame buildings. Carried. Yeas-Bing
ham, Carey Frsnzel, Kuhn. Merritt, Stratford
and Thompson, T. Nays-Bamberger, Conner,
Greenstreet and Vonnegut. A. Mr.. Bamberger,
explaining his vote, said that he did think
it good policy advisable that board in debt
should take the responsibility of carrying its
own fire risk.
Mr.. Conner offered the following resolution:
Resolved. That the increased school population of
the city. shown by the enrollmens, requires such
additional expenditure to exceed the present
limitation for revenue and il is impossible to longer
maint the public schools unimpaired except by in
creasng the city levy for school purposes.
Mr.. Frenzei made a speech suggesting that if
the member knew more of school affairs he
would not offer such resolution as it was
based on false Information. He did not think
the school enrolment could be depended upon;
that the board, in making calculations in the
past, had not depended upon it. He advised Mr..
Conner that it would be we'll to provide himself
with statistics from other cities and then make
comparisons.
Thereupon, Mr.. Conner took from his pocket
paper covered with figures, and, replying to
Mr. Frenzel said: 1.-THE gentleman Mr.. Fren-
zell is medly.. His Inconsistency is specially
conspicuous. He has propositions pending to
cut off the system and reduce to the amount of
$4,000, and he says that it will impair the
schools. He has been voting for SINH
and has declared that it will all
impair the schools. And yet / offer
this proposition which declares the impairment
We have enacted here to-night-whch the
gentleman has aided to enact. This proposition
is to the effect that the revenues totally in
adequate to the increased school population to
continue the system unimpaired. And vet he
says it would be utterly Inconsistent That
gentleman further says that my statements at
the previous meeting in regard to the school en-
rollments were grossly untrue. tell him that
my statements and figures true.
The 1885 enrollments were Is, $50. He
says, further. that we know nothing
of the comparative expenses of the
schools of other cities. can give that gentle
man some information he needs badly on that
subject also for l have the figures. The
nual expenditures for the school system of In
dianapolis per capita is $l718; for Chicago it is
$40. per capita, and Cincinnati $500 1t is
very plain why we are plunging into debt on an
average of $4,000 per year. The 60 per cent.
OF increased school population cannot be
main tanned with per cent of increased revenue
on fixed basis for the city levy. We have de-
clared it here tonight by impairing the system.
This proposition simply declares the fact. and it
would be cowardly not to adopt it, and tell the
public SO plainly"
Mr.. Frenzel again spoke, and during his speech
said that he was not responsible for the new
High school If that building had not been
erected, the School Board would have been $751;
600 or $50 900 better off, and would not be
discussing these matters of retrenchment-
Mr.. Bamberger-Whatd did you say three years
agof You made an excellent report, and you
seem to have forgotten the words you spoke
then
Mr.. Frenzel-n I changed my mind, had