New-York tribune., 1886-03-20
CASEY YOUNG CORNERED.
AN UNWILLING BUT USEFUL WITNESS.
nE oORRoDORATEs THE TESTIMONY OF THE
RoGrRsYs. DUr wAHrs TO HAVE ms OWN WAY.
InY TELEGRAPH TIE TRIBUNE.


ve.ti,aton to-day was tho venerable father OF Ae ex
anIer Graham Boil tho inventor. Senator Harris was
present usual and lie held many whispered confer
ences with his legal adviser. Mr. Taylor OF Memphis
The Senator appeared IN mt ease especially when casey
Young M the outset Of his testimony remarked that tho
evidence given by j. W. Rogers and j. H. Rogers III re-
spcct to tho Pan Electric organization and tho dis
trbution OF the stock substantially correct Colo
mel Young showed dsinclinaton to produce tho
letters in his possession from DR.. Rogers and his other
Pan Electric associates relating to that enterprise but
Chairman Boyle reminded him that the subpoena re-
quired the production OF all the correspondence IN MS
possession relating to that subject Colonel Young ais
showed decided tendency to confuse his privileges ~
counsel with his duty witness and several times
declared that Lc proposed 10 tell the story IN MS OVID
way TO protect himself and his associates from IN
Jury As far rs he went Colonel Young cOrroboraod tho
testimony OF the RO2erses except when he remarked tht
ho did not regard his PanEecric interest as gilt
from Rogers. DR.. Rogers added his list OF benehc
aries the OF General Frank Armstrong and Gen
! eral A. b. Upshaw one OF whom has been appointed an
Indian inspector and the other chief clerk Of the Indian
Bureau at the hea Of which Is J. d. C. Atkins. one OF
the original Pan.Ilectrc shareholders and directors
An interesting feature Of to-day's session was the
cross examination to which j. Harris Rogers was sub
eoed by Colonel oates respecting paragraph In IHE
TRIBUNE O March 16 In regard to the action O the SUD
committee in classifying the letters sui mtted by Rogers
as relevant" ana Irrelevant" Mr.. Roserss teStl-
thought the information he had received to the ete et
that Colonel Oates acting ~ counsel for Senator
Harris and Casey Young probably true. The report
OF the sub. committee uOt ready to-day When II
comes in it will be found prOtabl that the snb-com-
mttee has not undertaken to decide that any of the
letters irrelevant" but will raise the question OF
relevancy IN regard to OF them. Mr.. Ranney as
usual found It necessary to-day to protest against the
recognition Of division party lines IN an nvestga-
ton which ought to be strictly partisan despite
the fact that all tho officials who are the subjects OF IN
qury happen to boong to the samc party.
Dr. Rogers corrected his testimony OF yesterday so as
to say tla LooHey had paid for h- Pan Electric Interest
with indus Mining stock that aferward proved 70 hc
worthless lie said that possibly he had given American
Postal stock to Messrs Money and Manning He hal
expressly contemplated legislation for tho American
Postal Company, and was 50 stated In the pamphlets
but tie hill never introduced. Dr. Ro2ers would
have given Mr.. Cox stock than he hal offered be-
cause he was an iusrious and his name stood ike
the in the heavens aud he would have helped sell
the stock. Ho dd not think million Of stock would
seduce Mr. Cox, but he saw no improprcty in giving
stock to members.
"Consressuien DO not take Of chastity poverty
and obedience" said the witness / went upon that
principle he added to the amusement OF the spectators
J. Harris Rogers then recalled. Mr.. Olto5 iu'
quirei if the witness correctly reported in the inter
Wow published in THE NEW YORK TRIBUNE OF March
10.
tncss-The interview was correct.
Mr.. Oates-It set ont there that Colonel Oates was
an attorney for senator Harris and Colonel Young
The witncss-It was SIR Mr.. Hine told mo that Colo
mel oates ana Mr. Hanback, attorneys Tor Colonel
Young and Senator Harris. lie is newspaper man and
SAID lie had reported it in the press flcevei 1t ana
thought highly probable. had heard before this
at Bladensburg that you backing Colonel Young in
everything. paid little attention to 1t thcu bur whom
ue told Inc and you acted austerely and yOur subse
quent action, believed that there great truth in
what he said.
Mr. Oates-What was your reason!
The witness-The trau-acOns in the committee room
After YOU had read twenty twenty-five letters you
turned to a letter and said Mr.. Hanback,: Iorc is
letter numbered 25 away up there DO you feel Ike
you sand Here Is ROlefs here; be looks like an lnte
gent man. My clerk can 60 over with !0-er5. Ihey can
LOOK 1t over and slit out TIC relevant ron Tue treetant
letters aud look over the relevant letters alter
MT oatcs-Ddn't say you were not required to pass
ju ulgmeut upon HON, but to aid the CLERK.
TIE wtnessYou said three times that would not be
not do IA any thins sub rosa It is all Sove board Then
you went over tIat yorJ clearly referreI I'd letter
in ii't5 to- I''''''' - '"'
slr Oates-TTold on before yo, get away FROM that
point. said yod did not like to RENAL there be-
you did not care to have your motives questioned
rho witness-i made that answer in the belief that
to judgment upon the relevancy or irreleyancy
MI Oates-You said, OBJECT because am specially |
Interested and cannot take such responsibility Didn't
l
at all but investigating the conduct OF officers con-
neeted with the Government ,.,.o.
Mr.. Oats-Did anybody ask you to pass on the ques-
The wness~i swear most positively that you AMI Mr..
Hanback, asked to over the letters and assor the
relevant fIom the Irrelevant.
Nj. Oaies-Dd ask you to make any separation OF
the relevant from tho rrcleyanti
The wi.ness-TO assist that genteman-yes, sir, you
Sir. oates--Dd I not ask you merely TO arrange the
The witness-I told you hcy wors already arranged
ana tha; there use in my going over them
Mr.. Oates Undicatins) is this one or the letterSl
The witness Yes Sir qg9HnS @ ana & the @ e0nEaay@ & WE we
have tho ghost OF a chance to compete with him."
Mr.. OatesWhose letter is il!
whether should 10 Judge on the thing 50 that you
gentlemen would not have to do the work.
Casey Young was then called ana sworn. he SAID tnat
the statements made by Dr. Rogers ana MS sou were IN
;he main correct lie lad known DT, Rcsers ana ms
Congress, 1874 he had taken some interest In having
n"1ntsd eectIieian Of the Housr When he was re-
elected Congress III 1852 he saw Dr. Rogers and tha
gentleman ed his attention n@entons which his
SON had made lie Senator Harris and General
Johnston aud Mr.. Atkins at Dir. RoSerss house eA-
amnne the Instruments and he thought that the instru
meuts very superior Dr. Rogers had been untOrt-
unate, and IN the different Conversations which DC.
Cured subsequently, the propositon for humber OF
friends join in developing the inventions began to
take form. Rogers preferred to b" associated with 9d
friends on whose honor and integrity le eOlH rely.
time in March 1t was agreed that there should Oe
the drawing up OF an agreement lie ana not know thht
any definite terms agreed upon, but he did know
that tHeGG one WORD at llt lc OF dI
her time until long afterward about the stock being
gift or donation. lie had no dolbt that DR.. Rogers
wOnld have given i-that was his way Ol giving things
10 his friends.
Colonel Yonng then proceeding to refer To letters
by him from Dr. Rogers and 10 Comment upon
them with statement that there not letter IN his
possession which reflected IN any way on Dr. Rogers or
yhOdy else when Interrupted by All objection by
Mr. Ranney who said that the letters ought to be read
The witucs,If the committee can Judge in advance OF
what going to say and does not want me 70 say H.
will not say 1t.
Mr. Ranney- You should first produce such letters as
you have.
Tho witnoss-Then, guess you will have 20 stop the
testimony until read them because cannot 90 along
unless tell the WhOo story in own way. don't In
tend thcro shall be any misunderstanding.
Mr.. Eden suggested tnat the witness could produce
letters he mad aud testify to the contents OF
these which lie did not have.
The wnessf Will surrender no private letter In my
No nm vii n IN write