Savannah morning news., 1886-06-19

WI Wlh frame much better bill or put
tSo,, ~ n TN, sne way of doing it, and If
Me-perhaps not quite so happy. The Scots
man says: every MInisterlalist must be con-
sluerea pledged to support the bill" He can
| naruly be pledged to support the bill as a Min
ls'erlalst when the Ministry itself dom ask
| or expect 1t. We expect him to act in good
| Iatth' knowing the meaning of his words and
NOT nos using others as feints, screens or strate
gems 10 escape from II, but shall in the mean
| ing OF MS words give ireland real and effect
! I've control OF local affairs. II he is ready to
40 tnat he is a good Ministerial candidate. If
ne ne pledges himself to do that let him speak by
e tne hour, or ward If he likes, TO the satisfac-
Iloh OF Scotehmen against the vice, defects,
weaknesses and fOllies Of the bill.
Mhat the nation has to decide is not clause,
ue'all or method. policy and principle. He
who accepts them is our brother in arms. He
VINO repes them, shlrks and uses fictitious
means TO falslfy them, ana is an adversary in
tne nght whom we must without injury to his
me- lmb or reputation endeavor to defeat.
sCoTLAND's FEELING.
read in London that Scotland was doubt
Iul or adverse 60 home rule 1 answered that
dld not believe it. Cheers. / hoped for
an opportunity to test it and saw enough IN
my progress Yesterday to show me that the
heart OF Scotland ls most deeply and pro-
foundy touched, and that Scotland was
never more earnestly bent on a work of policy
and justice than it is to accomplish the
present enterprise. Loud cheers.l
THE CARNARVON-PARNELL INCIDENT.
Regarding the Carnarvon- Parnell incident,
l blame neitaer. 1t is extremely important
TO know what happened. Mr.. Parnell said
that Earl CarnarvOn offered. if the COnserVa-
tlves we're successful in the elections, to grant
a home rule measure and to protect Irish in
dustries. Earl CarnarYon denied the accu-
racy OF this statement, but Mr.. Parnell adheres
to 1t. l believe that both have spoken with
perfect veracity, whatever may be the
point of dispute between them, But Earl
CarOarVOn has told q what no did
He said he did not report the conversation to
the Cabinet Earl CaTnarvon explained his
views as Lord Lieutenant and as Cabinet
Minister. LordEarnarvon told his colleagues
that he favored plan that would fully meet
the wants of Ireland in respect TO local self
government, and would to some extent satisfy
national aspirations.
CARNARvoN THEIR MAN.
Lord Cernarvon may dislike it, but in sub
stance he is our man, not theirs, il he is ready
to meet the wants OF Ireland for local self
government disturbance and cries of turn
them OUT" and also In some degree to sat
lsIy the national aspirations OF Ireland.
There is no room for dispute between him
and us. The Marquis of Harrington and Mr..
Chamberlain carefully avoided expressing
readiness to satisfy in some degree the ma
tional aspirations of Ireland. This and no
other s the turning point. These are Lord
Carnavon's opinions, and this ls what he said,
but call his attention, and shall call 1t re-
peatedly If necessary, to what he did not say.
nell. shall believe until he contradicts it
that he told Parnell he favored satisfying the
wants of Ireland fully with regard to local
self-government. and that he desired to salts
fy Ireland's national aspirations. Why did not
the Cabinet expel this disunionisG for his mis-
deeds, but for the fact that they were sorry
to lose him?
CARNARvoN's STATEMENT.
l believe Lord Carnarvon's statement that
he never told the Cabinet, but j feel sure he
told lord Galiatassrv lxnpo MO al
Lutte duty and because he was not entitled to
make such a statement to Mr.. Parnell and
withhold it from the Premier if he did so. We
know that Lord Salisbury. until August
knew that his colleague was in communica-
tion with the great ''disintegratOr'' and ''dis-
memberer." 1 do not find fault with Lord
Salisbury If he entertained wish in the
same direction as Lord CarnarvOn.
think 1t very wise of Lord Salisbury.
The summit OF my ambition would have been
to support him and give effect to his wise
cinatep. II Lord Salisbury faltered and co
quet ed with that subject before the election
was over and 40 seats secured he carefully
concealed his opinion, that satisfying the na-
tional aspirations Of Ireland is disintegration
and dismemberment. If such is the case he
has a serious responsibility resting upon him
and difficult account to render. The course
he then pursued is placed IN contrast with his
conduct now.
HARTINGToN's COURSE.
Referring to Lord Harrington, his former
colleague ana MS present 1Tienus alternative
policy. Mr.. Gladstone said: Lord Harting-
ton. three years ago, opposed al concessions
to Ireland in the matter of local government
until fundamental change and penitential
reformation IN the conduct OF the Irish mem
bers should have come about. The Irish have
moved in the wrong direction but Lord Har-
tingtOn has moved towards them.
BIC no longer talks of gradual progress
but in his address certain powers
not mentioned are to be delegated to certain
bodies, the members of which are unknown.
What can be expected from one who thus
varies his schemes? They are the plans of
yery eminent indiyiduals taken up by nobody.
Do YOU intend 20 have plan with finality, or
a plan which the IRISH representatives repu-
diate2 Is it trifiing with the subiects
IRISH CENTRAL COUNCILS.
Mr.. Chamberlain proposed year
ago the establishment OF Irish central
councils with large administrative powers.
| believe that plan was not Mr.. Cham Der-
laius, but Mr.. Parnell's, who was willing
10 accept it as long as his expectations
m ade him take what was the best he could
get after the. Tory government came
in. At the beginning OF 1856 Mr..
Chamberlain went further. and advo-
Gated large scheme Of federation.
He next propOunded during the same session
an extremely small scheme for provincial
Irish councils. cutting national aspirations
into quarters like man used TO be hanged.
Mr.. Chamberlain flies high like lark. or low
like a swallow before a shower. according to
the suggestions Of his teeming brain.
ENOUGH OF CHAMBERLAIN.
nave perhaps shown you enough OF the
fertility Of this remarkable man VINO yester-
day founded the Radical u nionist AssOcia tiOn
to support local self-government for England,
ireland and Scotland. Poor Wales is 10 have
no recognition. At another time I will dis
cuss plan Of local government for England,
ireland and Scotland rs mode OF dealing
with the great and crying subject Of
social disorder in ireland. One broad,
blasting, glaring difference between these
countries Is that, whereas these are well
governed, we'll constituted and cOntentcd
communities, ireland has not htained The
priInarv purposes OF civilized life. / ask
whether Mr.. Chamberlain's sugges-
tiOns can be taken as sub
stitute for the government planY
PIE COERCION POLICY.
Well. gentlemen, the real rival policy Ia CO.
erciOn. We wont quarrel about the word,
but IL means a policy OF special, repressive,
criminal legislation for Ireland TO the 0xclu-
eiOn OF The remainder Of Great Britain. You
muat choose between the policy OF coercion
mud the policy or Cancellation. Cheers.
Lord salisbury describes my reference TO his
policy OF twenty years coercion
as one Of the most most sli saslliiOssra,,e
mean 10 mold by 10. I mean 10 repeat it.
mean 10 impress 10 upon the country, hud
mean that the country shall fairly nave the
means OF coming ~ au issue on IL and 10 know
whether it h true or false. Prolonged
cbeers Tho salisbury government on Jan.
uary 26 announaod In both houses a policy Of
coercion Ia ireland. The Queen's speech'
,ghich had previously hernlded such an
nounrement 0f an Intention 20 use he severcsi
measures 10 rspress the National League, Wht
recelvs1 by the Tories with frantic cheers,
which rang long ana lOud'