New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-04-09

pedcd course. and above al establish Harmonious reia
tions between Great Britain aud ireland Hear. Heart
o footing OF those igee Institutions 10 whoh kngIsh
men, seolchmcn and irisRmen alike are nnatsrahy al
tacbcd' Loud cheers, prolonged by Home Roe meM'
bers
After reviewing the condition and crime existing in
Ireland since 1888 Mr. Gladstone described the coegcve
legislation enforced during the period rs
not exceptional but haNitraL lie compared Ire
land during all this period to man trying
TO Hnd sus,enanco IN medicine only meant for cure.
Coercion however, hid. re said, proved no cure.
Serious dsaecton continued TO prevail in Ireland. and
81 Eneand and Scotland hsd suffered similar hHrfsps
De believed the peopl. Of those countries would resort
}leans similar those the Irish had used 10 ventiac
their grievances GPsnelhte ehecrsl Coercion was
admitted have been failure for the past hfty
years only two Of watch had been wholly free from
Expressive legislation. Coercion. unless stern ana an
bending and under autccratic Government must al
ways fail such coercion England should never reso 1T
" until every other means h ad failed
THE BASIS OF THE WHOLE MISCHIEF.
What was the basis OF the whole mischief the fact
law was discreited Ireland 1t came TO the
Irish people with foreign aspectand their alternative to
coercion strip the law OF It's foreign character and
Invest with a domestic character. Loud Irish cheers
Ireland though represented In Parliament numerically
equal with England Scotland. really not in the
same position politically. England made her own laws
Scott encouraged to make her own laws as
eecuay had six TIMES her present representa-.
tion Tho CONSEQUENCE that the maDspfn
OF the law England aud Scotland felt 10 be the
English or Scotch Tho kidnapping OF the Law In Ire
land felt by the people to be tho Irish He,
therefore deemed 1t little less than mockery to hold
that of law which he had described conduced
unity Of this great. noble, worldwide En-
pre.
"someihng must be DONE" continued Mr.. Gladstone,
..something is imperatively demanded from 10
store IN lrelana first conditions OF civil e the free
course OF law the liberty Of every individual In the ex
every legal ri gh their confidence III the law
and their sympathy with the law, apart from which DO
country 10 called civilized country.
What. then was the problem before him 1t was this;
How to reconcile Imperial unity with diversity OF legis-
laturcs. Mr. Grattan held that those purposes were
recOncabe. More than that, he demanded severance
OF the ParameDts, with view TO tao continuity ana
everlasng unity Empire. Was that an audacious
parad0Xl Other countries had solved the problem, ana
uuder much difficult Circumstances Wo ourselves
might said have solved II with respect TO Ireland
during tbs time that Ireland had separate Parliament
Did II destroy the unity tho British kmpref lCh"eSI
Nj Gladstone then pointed to the case OF Norway and
Sweden which countries were. he said. united upon
1ooin OF strict legislative independence aud coeqnaty
he added. the OF Austria and Hun
gary, aud with regard to those countries he asked
whether condition OF Austria 81 The present moment
was not perfectly solid, secure aud harmouions
Than it prior the existing condition between that
country and Hungary II could DO questioned that
Its condition was OF solidy and safety compared
with mat OF the time when Hungary making war
upon her
tn claim Of ireland TO make laws for herself was
lever denied continued Mr.. Gladstone until the reign
OF George H. The Parliament Of Grattan was as indc-
yendent III point OF authority II could he. 1hey tine
Govcramen not about TO propose the repeal OF the
union. IL impossible 10 propose the repeal OF the
they had settled what the essence oil the
union lie defined the Of the union 10 he the
before tbs union there were two sep
are and indie aIliamcuts after the union there
was but To speak Of the dismemherment OF the
Empire was. in this century. misGomer and an
absurdity The fault OF the administrative system OF
Ireland that its spring and source Of action was
Ing,aad. lCheers.l The Government therefore. felt
that the settlement OF the question was to be found by
estabshinga Parliament in Dublin Irish chcersl FOR
the conduct OF business OF boia legislative and admin
tstrative nature.
Tie political economy of the three countries must be
reconced. There should he an equitable distribution
of Immortal burdens. Next, must be reasonable
safeguards for the minority. And why could not this
minority In Ireland take care OF Itself lie had no
doubt about its ability to do that when we have passed
through present critical period and been disaimed
OF the jeaousics with which any change was ap-
but for the present there were three classes
OF people whom they bound 10 consider firstly,
the class with the land; secondly. the civil
servants and officers OF the Government IN Ireland
thirdly, The Protestant minority
speaker could not admit the claim OF the Profess
tant minority Ulster elsewhere, to rule on ques-
tons which for tho whole OF Ireland Several
schemes for the separate government OF Ulster mad
been submitted to him. One was that Ulster province
should be excluded from the operations OF the present
bill; another that a separate autonomy should be
provided for Ulster and third suggested that certain
rights should be reserved and placed under provincial
councils No of these proposals had appeared 10
the Government to be so completely Justified By It's
merits or by the weight OF public opinion in Its
favor as TO warrant the Government in including
in However they deserved
fair consideration ana the free discussion that wond
follow introduction Of the present bill might lead to
tie discovery OF one plan which had predoninatng
amount OF support. and the Government would do their
best to adopt the plan seemed likely 10 give general
Satisfaction
Referring the great settlement OF 1872. MI Glad
stone said 1T no. a real settement-and why
Was it Ireland that prevented real settlement being
made Irish cheers No. it mistaken policy OF
England, listening the pernicous voice aud claims OF
asecnd&ucy. lIIear y The Irish Parliament iaoored
under great Disadvantages, yet 1t had In 1t
spark OF the spirit OF freedom and emancpated the
Roman Catholics in ireland when the Roman Catholics
in England still unemancpated. 1t received Lord
Titzwiam with open arms, aud when after a brief
career he was recalled to England. the Irish Parliament
registered their confidence In him by passing rcsolu
fon desiring that he should still administer the govern
,nen Lord Fitzwilliam had promoted tue admission OF
Roman Catholics into the Irish Parliament, and there
was spirit in that Parliament which, If 1t had had free
SCOPE would have noble work and probably would
have solved all the irish problems and have saved this
Government infinite trouble"
DOMESTIC LEGISLATURES.
The speaker said he would pass to tho plan how
10 give ireland legislature deal with Irish dstin
suished from Imperial affairs Hear j He was con-
fonted AT the outset with what he felt 10 be formda
be dilemma Ireland TO have adOmestic legislature
for affairs Thatwas his posulate, from which he
Bet out We're the Irish members and the Irish
representative peers in either house TO con.
tnue to formipart OF the ave assemblies The
speaker thought 1t would be perfectly clear that If Ire
land was to have domestic legislature tho Irish peers
and Irish could not come to Parla
mcnt to control English and Scotch affairs. lCheersl
Then with regard to the question whether Irish repre-