St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-06-12
PAR ME LII.
EEe Denies the Truth of Earl Car
narvon's Statements.


LONDON, June 11.-Mr. Parnell has re-
quested the publication of the following:
1 positively deny that 1 sought the inter
view with Earl Carnarvon. l also differ with
the earl as to two conditions upon which he
alleges was based the interview, namely,
that he was acting entirely on his own re-
sponSibility, and that he declined to hear or
say one word to the detriment Of the union.
Earl Carnarvon did not lay down any condi-
tons previously. 1 admit that there was
foundation for the third condition mentioned
that he hoped it was understood that he was
not engaged in making any treaty or bargain.
Earl Carnarvon said he sought the interview
to ask my views as to q constitution for Ire
land. 1t was soon obvious that he wished to
give his own views. Replying to an inquiry
in regard to the proposal to establish CEN
trail legislature founded upon county boards,
1 said that did not think Ireland would &C
cept that as a settlement; that the central
body ought to be parliament
IN NAME AND IN FACT
having power to deal with the local govern
ment of counties. Earl CarnarvOn stated
that this was his own view, adding greatly to
the weight of Irish opinions He also sug-
gusted basing the parliament at Dublin upon
the colonial model I remarked that the pro-
lection of Irish industries from English any
foreign competition would be absolutely
necessary. The earl replied: 81 entirely
agree with you, but what a row there will be
in England / then left, believing that we
were i'll complete accord upon the main
outlines of plan for the settlement OF the
question Of the government of Ireland. have
reason to believe that the earl impressed his
views upon the cabinet, and that many OF his
colleagues shared his views; also that the
earl resigned the lord lieutenancy of ireland
because we did not give the Conservatives
majority at the polls.
Mr.. Parnell. in an interview this even
ing said he did not intend to
ISSUE A MANIFESTO
yet. but after the dissolution of parliament
he would deliver addresses at Dublin and
Cork, in which he would fully enunciate
his views. Mr.. Justin Mccarthy has fur
nished for publication letter in which he
says:
A friend of Lord Carnarvon's came to me
and told me that Lord Carnarvon was anxious
to learn Mr.. Parnells views on the subject of
the government of Ireland. He asked II
would see the earl first At his instance
saw and had an interchange of ideas with
Lord CarnarVon. 1t would not do him the
slightest injury with any class of Englishmen
if every word of our conversation were pia-
carded in the palace yard. The result was
that / promised to ask Mr.. Parnell to meet
Lord Carnarvon. Mr.. ParneH preferred not
to meet him at an intermediarys house. The
earl readily assented to Mr.. Parnell's wishes
and a meeting followed at the formers resi-
dence. I was absent, but Mr.. ParnelPs
statement of the interview exactly CORE
sponded with my clear recollection of the
conversation which I, myself had with the
earl. I explained to him clearly that Ireland
did not desire the repeal of the union, but
would not be satisfied unless she was granted
her own parliament. Lord Carnarvon re-
piled, speaking only for himself, that he was
prepared to go as far in the direction Of home
rule as Parnell or myself desired to 60 The
earl asked for second interview with Mr..
Parnen, but I learned they did not meet
again %