Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1886-04-23
GOULD on THE STAND
HIS TESTIMONY BEFORE THE HOUSE
COMMITTEE
what He Knows About the Origin Of the
TrOubIe-His Version Of the In
terview with Powdsrly.
by telegraph 70 The pispa,eh.i

eating the causes and the extent OF the
labor troubles in the West were pre-
I pared 10 proceed with the examination
OF jag Gould. Across the hall outside
the room was stretched barrier. be-
I yond which were allowed TO pass only
tie members Of the committee, repre-
ssntativss Of the knights Of Labor.
several gentlemen accompanying Mr..
Gould. including his counsel General
SwayrD and Nice-President Hopkins.
( new spsper-meu. and several members
/ 81 Congress who were animated with
curiosity to bear the testimony Of the
great fpsncjcr. As ,ha. gentleman
rose TO take the oath al eyes were hKed
upon him. and bis response 4" DO -
vas given in low tone.
Chairman: IL j. tie desire Of the
( committee. Mr. Gould, that you give
Us testimony IN respect 70 the inTes,i-
CATION in which We are engaged. and for
time leave the examination 10 Mr.
Burnes.
Witness wished TO know the scope Of
TIE resolution under which TIE commit
tee Was acting.
Mr. BuInes stated that a select com
mii,ee had been Authorized By the
House Of Representative 10 investigate
ne causes sBd extent Of the disturbed
condition now existing between the
railroad corporations engaged in carry
irc interstate commerce and their en-
ploJ ees in the States Of Illinois. Ms
soUri, Kansas, AIkansas, and Texas.
Mr.. Gould Il is true that the Ms
scum Pacific runs through some Of these
States, but at this time We have no
difference with our men. and are not.
strictly speaking. within the rule Of
that resolution. but / vii be very glad
70 spend my tine IN talking 20 the COM
mIttee. though hardly think they
want 10 spend their valuable time n
taking to re.
Beng requested. however. to proceed.
Mr. Gould went on 70 give his testl-
mony IN low voice. which was gene
rsny calm. but which now and then
tiembled slightly, as though Il were
shaken with excitement or emotion. At
times be removed bis gold-rimmed spec
;acles and paused in bis speech. a. be
carefully wiped them with his handker-
chef. Behind him sat General Swsyne,
v DO relieved him Of the work Of read ~
IIi1ted matter, and whom he nov ana
then consulted n an un5ertoue. On
The 18th Of April. be began. W had 10
the transportation department 5.5l7 :
n he machinery department tI1 ; u
tie ec.retr ard tTeme1's Depart
utut. l.5o2. in the car depart
gent. -l3. in the road department.
$50: u the bridge department CAS-.
nd =, ourtormIrsl l9cali,.e, so men
tt,sl. l0.737 men. not including or
CEREAL of.ct,. The operations o! OK
rcsd and speak from thirty CIR
eZyeIieucs are carried On M perfectly
regular az orderly way. Trans are
al Iun. and the business We we're char
tered 70 DO IS being transacted Ieyl-
larry. Here Is dispatch received
since J left New York. Tbs represents
the business hat vas done up TO I2.5j
j.. NJ. Of this day. April 2lst: Two
hundred an ninety freight trains moved
yesterday containing 4.64- loads, a.
increase Of = trans AID 1857 loads
compared with III same day or last
year. Quiet 81 all points on the lire.
Trans doing we'll" submit % TIL
committee whether We come within tie
rlling Of the committee.
Nr. Burnes believe that this 11es-
non has been substantially passed upon
bv the committee. and u is the ilten-
ton q the committee that we iuves;i-
gate all circumstances and facts relating
10 the troubles. and therefore We pto-
pose 10 examine you With regard 10 ths
proceedings antecedeni 10 the res1n2-
ton Of business.
Witness Well ! thought il Wa
only proper that should state ibl' fact
TO The committee. At the date Of the
resolution We were operating the road
"a q regular AID formal manner and
performing al duties our charter called
fcr.
Mr.. Burres please state your resi-
ceroe. age, aod occupation:
Witness ! reside 10 New YORK ci.y
an forty-uine years Ct are an
president q The Missouri Pacific. an5
have been SINCE 1879.
Ny. BurDes We would Ike fof YOU
nov 20 INFORM Us II there hss been
suy interruption 20 commerce passing
over he lines Of road you represent II
Missouri, Illinois, Kansas, Arkansas,
sId Texas and, # so. what Interrupt
,ion. and 50 FAR g you know the case
Of thAE interruption
Witness DO Won want me to state
simply what | know O. facts that came
10 ny knowledge as president Of the
corporation because ] ought 10 sta.e
20 he committee that ! Jeff keE ! ork
on lie tn Of January WITH my family
Oh my yacht for z cruise n the West
p 5ies. returned 10 New York on
Re sd Of March. The strike occurred
While ! Was away, and ny knowledge
q Il comes from such official lnforma-
iion a. have received as president Of
tie company since my return.
Ny. Burres We understand that
necessarily you VII be compelled 10
gi,e many things from official infOrma-
non. You will Of course. II testify
irg discriminate that which you know
from that which you have from o.h-ial
Information. We would Ike YOU 70 20
over the whole ground, and give Us not
oily what you know, but What you
have reason TO believe.
The first recognition, proceeded the
witness, which our company made, Is
fer as know, OF the knights Of Labor
came out Of the strike II Aprl Of last
year. was away Ct the time and IN
IL August. In August Mr.. Powderly
came 10 New York with the committee
That vas the frst time had anything
70 DO with him. lie stated their view,
which was that part Of the road that
was IN the hands Of the receivers
should rslnstate large number
Of uen who were knights Of La
Dor. who had left the employ
of The company. and whose places had
been largelv filed. The impression