Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1886-04-13
FOREIGN NEWS.
ENGLISH POLITICS.
Oeoate In the House of Comm ons-Lord
Randolph Churchill Attacks Glad.
stones Home Rule Bill.

nam, said that on the Irish question the lib
erais were at present divided, but that the
principle of home rule would soon be en-.
bodied in legislation which would enable the
liberal party to close ITS ranks and proceed to
order necessary reforms, as a number of rad
zeal Commoners, present at the meeting,
agreed to vote in favor OF Gladstone's bill on
the hrst reading. but reserved their future
action on the measure for further considera.
ton.
The News says: We cannot conceal our
belief that unless there is a remarkable
change IN public opinion the home rule bill
cannot become law this session. All the
great reforms in history have met with some
difhcultles Gladstone's course in presenting
a complete measure was doubtless influenced
by considerations of his limited opportunity
to which he sometimes makes pathetic ref
erence. Far better abandon the bill altogether
than emascuate it so that il would fail to
win the approval of the Irish people. The
ball, however, has been set rolling and no
power ON earth can stop it from reaching its
goal.
The liberals expect Gladstone to offer large
amendments to his plan in the Commons as
the only hope of passing it. If the bill is re-
Jected on the second reading Gladstone will
retire. If the bill passes the second reading
and is rejected later. he will appeal to the
country.
The debate in the House of Common. on
Gladstone's home rule bill will extend over
Tuesday. 1t is thought the bill will pass its
first reading without division. The Budget,
which was TO have been introduced this even
ing, will not be presented until Thursday.
Gladstone's Irish land purchase bill will be
introduced Friday.
Gladstone spent two hours this afternoon
in private conference with Morley, secretary
of Ireland. and Earl Spencer, ,ex-Irish viceroy.
1t is reported that the Premier has decided
to subject his home rule scheme to several
important notifications.
The House of Commons was again denselv
crowded this evening AS a resnlt of the ex-
tended announcement that Lord Randolph
Churchill would attack Gladstone's home
rule bill. Among the conservatives and
wings there was intense interest in Lord
Rsndolph's effort.
Gladstone IN reply to questions stated that
it would be impossible to close the debate on
his request for leave tonight and that on this
account he decided to postpone introducing
the Irish land purchase bill till next Monday
Sir Michael Hicks Beach, conservative,
made brief address in which he indicated
for his party the understanding to refrain
from forcing division on home rule till il
came up for the second reading.
Lord Randolph Churchill, by virtue of his
motion to adjourn at the last session having
the floor, resumed the debate on Gladstone's
request for permission to introduce the home
rule bill, said after a long consideration he
had come to the conclusion that the scheme
inv olved such complicated and inextricable
mass of contradictions that if any body be-
sides Gladstone proposed it it never would
have been taken seriously. Cheers. 1t
was hedged about with such fanciful and
eccentric guarantees for integrity of the EN-
pire that the speaker was astonishcd at the
Parnellites acquie escence. He hal vainlv
searched all the authoriti,s 8, ancient and mod
ern, for IA precedent for Gl4dstone's two
orders, which were to compose the proposed
Irish Parliament. The first order was in
tended to specially represent property and it
was worthy of the attention that the great
leader of the great liberal party had chosen
such an antiqu;ted and discarded machine as
property qualification for an electorate Of
this order. The second order was also cleo
tive Both orders were to sit together; each
could demand the exercise of right to vote
separately and one order could veto any
measure brought in by the 9th r. Take the
simple illustration of how this would work in
practice. Suppose the new Parliament should
proceed to the election of speaker, assume
the popular party carried the election for
their candidate, the property party by voting
separately could veto the choice and then
in consequence for three or four years the
election of speaker would be suspended.
Laughter. The same thing woHld happen
in all those cases in which one order should
choose to veto the action of the other, such
as for instance the question of rules of pro-
ceedure on the budget proposals. The
premier labered on Thursday last to show
that the fiscal unity of the United Kingdom
would not be affected by the relation in the
hands of the British Parliament OF the power
of collecting customs and excise duties. Now
If this is done what will become of the an
clent British right of taxation and represen-
tation going together. Cheers. The speaker
then went on to analyze the receipts and dis
bursement of the ''imaginary Irish budget,
for the purpose, as he said, OF showing that
Gladstone's proposal to maintain the fiscal
unity of the Empire, while giving Ireland
home rule was altogether intrusive orthy.
He then pointed out that the amount which
the premier named as that which Ireland
every year will contribute under home rule
to the imperial treasury as her contribution
extremely illusory and precarious character
The real principle of the bill, he said, was
simply repeal of the union. Ii handed
over the protection of lives and property OF
every man, woman and child in Ireland to
the Irish Parliament and deprived the In
perlal Parliament of all voice in Irish mat
ters The measure gave much on one hand
and took much on the other, expressing in
the same breath confidence and distrust. The
premier justified sis proposals on the ground
that there were Sc home rulers in the House,
But why should the voice of Sc Irish men,
bers prevail over the voices of 5S4 other
members? History showed the rise and de-
cline of former Irish parties. O'COnnelfs
party was formidable through the whig and
tories The Parliament in which tnat party
was powerful was dissolved and O'Connell
died broken hearted. Butt in 1870 headed .
party of 60 strong. The speaker saw Butt
before his death. when the latter was in the
deepest distress over the break up of his
party. Parnell in 1880 led so voters. In
six months his party was divided, remaining
20 till the end of the last Parliament. So
the Parnellites formidable today were in
danger of disunioD, the danger that Parnell
sought to avert bv insisting on pledge from
his followers to vote certain way. lCries
of dissent from the Parnellites
The premier, continued the speaker,
further argued that the repeal of the union
was necessary because English laws had a
foreign aspect to the Irish. Morley had en-
phasized that by warning the House that un-
less Gladstone's bill was passed the country
might prepare for . resistance to the pay