New-York tribune., 1886-04-24
MARTIN IRONS TO BLAME.
THE MAN WHO ORDERED THE BIG STRIKE.
rrsrIMoSY OF SECRETARY TURNFR-HIs INTER-
yIrw WITH HoXiE

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rnY rrLroRArH TO TRInUSE.1
WASHINGTON, April 23.-Thc proceed ngs IN
Chairman Curtn's Investigating Committee tc-aay "a"
no, attract many visitors. Interest III the
.,ened TO have d led ont almost completely with the oc
parture of JAY Gould. Even the loquacous charm'"
,o.aay was not moved to deliver ono OF his Cnr'ih
specohes," as spectator yesterday styiea Tue "'
want remarks which he intcreced into tho 'cs,'no'
Mr. Gould 1t seemed apparent from some OIL 'no ~"
missions of the witnesses to-day that tho s'r"se" 70
tween tho knights Of Labor and the o"''e''
NJ tso ralroad has been solely for thc poe-
pose Of forcing the latter TO recognize 'ho
authority OF the labor organ1a'ioh' '
out for example. that the agreeinen' Vi as'
year betweea the railroad company anu lis empioye'
,r.s made pror to the complete organization OF tue
r-,n,o, ahor who now seek dictate tho terms or
. new agreement Mr. Parker drew out the fact th"'
many OF the assemblies of the knights VI ~oor
united in an effort to secure froo coinage ieson oJ
Con.ress The officers Of the general ORGANIZATION 10
MED that Ia Is responsible or the action oi ne A"o "
senbles in this respect
Mr. Turner in reply 10 questions from Mt Grain. de-
scrbed the Interview which he and his colleague MT
Bailey had had with Mr. Hoxie In ST. Louis. lie saia
that oxies treatment OF them was dscourteous' 'a'
he sand no wound have no conversation win 'hem as
officers OF the Knights Labor but that no would re-
ce,yo them as American citzcns They informed MIN
,na, they did not dcsre to stand on their
dignity and willing to talk WIN NM
as private citizens; that all they wanted was to nave
the trouble settled peace restored ana tho men sent
Mr Craim~was the strike over thoni -. o,. Tho
MI Turncr-None oi people were at work. Inc
The Caarman-In your statement YOU used the word
"order" reference Ia the men gong PACK 10 @orx, -
want to know whether the central power OF your osan
zation can "order' men to work, or "oraef 'nem u
Mr. Tnrner-The general laws do not contemplate
strikes. ..
MI furner Giesitatingiy)-Wel, 1 do not understand
w"uld refuse to go. matter who ordered them out
Mr. Crain-You have no power to oraer sIriAe' NAV
The Chairman with an air OF surprsc)-YOu have
Mr. Tnrncr~Tes There is no law in constitution
governing strikes. We do not believe IN strikes O..
Mr. Crain-rhen where do you derive your power "
Mr. Turnor-wo have not tho power directly to 1rasr
q sirae but we have the power 70 approve or ooNP'
Mr. Crsia~Waa this strike approved or disapproved
Mr. Turuerwo never knew anything about ~ uh.s hns
received tae telegram from MI. hopA'ns' ~ Has
Mr. Craiu Then suppose tho powcrs vested IN You
~ dIrec, men to return ~ Work
Going back to The interview with Hoxe. Mr. Tnrpsr @
quoted loSis as syns tns thGr G1ty was to
taik wiin him dIoxic). Hoxie said that the COMPANY
fos ps that, When the for,ner strike occurred
pany reduced the hours of labor ana ncresseH .ne
humber of men bu. Ii would reduce the NUMBER Oh
men and Increase the hours OF worKbecanse the gen
erai xp-nses of railroad were the same whether 'ne
men worked long hOirs Or short hours
Mr.. Cran-I L. the strike over nowf
r.. iurueI-i
papers to 60 by. oar people are not at WORK
Mr. Crnin-who ordered the striker
Mr. Turuer-Dlstrct Assembly No lO1.
Mr. Crain-what officer was authorized to promalsate
Mr Turncr-Ihe secretary OF the District Assembly
Mr. Buchanan-when n strike ia ordered. what is the
first action taken by the Executive BoardI .,...
Mr. Turuor-It takes no action in the matter unless
appealed TO- An, ao von ,hon ..st 70 irve.,isate
the right or wrong OF tie matter
MIR BnchSnau-You also seek to have the differences
eompcsed
sir. Tuner-Yes
Mr. Bmclanan-If you succeed. what is the next
Nj Turner-lf we approyet We have to lend it hand
FINANCIALLY.
Mr Buchanan-Do you direct financial assist
0nee 10 STRIKE w!lhodI hTs' lhNo7uS"''hs i'' NV
pr!cty
Mr.. Turner-No. .
In ihe line Of one Mr. Goulds suggestions Yesterday
as TO the pgopriety having railroad engineers and
favored hat finding analogy for 1t IN the licensing
Of steamship captaius and pilots. As To arbitration II
lie difference between the President and the House on
that subject the appointment Of the third ar
bilIaior The selection 10y Cnlteu 9iacs juuso 'uo
Mr. Extraordinarily the President had not read me
bill passed tue House There Is nothing OF mat
kind Ia IL. An arbitrator is 10 DC appolheu Oh cdcH suo
and the two are TO select third. . ,. -,
Mr. Buchanan-In Oiher words. the Presidents oriti-
cism OF bill not passed by the House !,
Theodore f. Rynder. OF Centre County, PennsyV Vahih'
made a appeal the committee on behalf OF the mine
in Peuu-y ana, Maryland and West virginia mat the
committee should have its powers enlarged 50 as TO IN
yestigate the troubles in the mining regions Inc cnar
man said the committee would on its return, ask u
have its powers enlarged. He said they were In bar
mony Tie Presidents message. except tnat III dlu
NOT go enough. There should be some power IN ht
Government prevent interruption OF railroad
travel by the quaIres OF railroad owners ana then
The committee at 1870 closed slttings in Washing
ton and 1t arranged that the members should leave
this ely for St. Louis Oh Monday morning.