The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-04-16

90 back to work and put the question right
where it was before, under the old agreement.
They (the company were quite ready to srbi-
trate before the men went out
Mr. Bailey-The old tribunal may not be sat
isfactory.
Mr. Somerville-Then appoint new one.
Mr. Baiiey-If the conditions are that he will
arbitrate under that old tribunal. and under that
onlyq
Mr. Somervlle-I think his conditions. If ]
recollect rightly, were that the men should 60
back to work.
Mr.. Powderly-.They are very much aggrieved
about something that took place the part of
Governor MarmadLke. They found the Gov
ernor was drunk, and they got entirely dis
gusted with him. Governor Martin. they said.
was very fair. In one case it was charged that
there was violation of contract, and he imme-
diately investigated it, and discovered that 1t
was without foundation.
Mr. Gould-Mr Hoxie says [readingl III &C.
cline to meet men Who are out. / have not de-
ciined to meet employees n. NJ. HoxIE'
Mr.. Hayes-He declines to meet the strikers,
in other words. but will meet the men who take
their places.
Mr.. Somerville-No, there are lots Of men
that belong to your order who did not go out.
Mr.. Hayes-That is the only sense of the mes
sage. That is not just to our men, and not just
to anybody connected with this company.
Mr.. Somerville-He said in the start that the
men should go back to work.
Mr.. Gould-They have got an opportunity to
be employed if they wish. There is a notice
that gives them a chance to 60 to work The
moment they go 10 work they are employees
Mr.. Hayes-The moment we say to these
men, $50 to work" they will go to work Can
we guarantee any body that Mr.. Hoxie will meet
committee of your road, and arbitrate this
matters
Mr.. Could've asked him the other question,
and here is his reply. The other message that
he is going TO send asks him that question.
Mr.. Somerville--Wait a few minutes and get
the thing perfectly straight Now. let US get
the message that was sent TO which this was
reply and then we will follow it up. Let US see
if we all understand it the same way.
Mr.. Hayes-We want to go out all right this
tins
Mr. somsfsilie-Ws want to understand it all
right
Mr. Bailey-I think Mr. Hoxie means that he
will meet each individual.
MIR. Somerville-We will see what he means.
Mr. McDowel-By telegraphic correspondence
you can soon find out.
Mr. Somerviile-I think that you will find he
is perfectly willing to meet a committee of the
employees of the Missouri Pacific to consider the
subject of arbitration. / think he said, from the
start. that before the question was considered
these men that are out should go back.
MIR. Gould-Mr. Powderly, it seems to me
now throw this out-whether the true solu-
ton of the whole thing would not be for either
you yourself some lawyer who is familiar
with it, TO sit down with Judge Dillon and take
this question of this bill and get something that
both approve and put it through and let it be-
come the law of the land.
Mr. McDowell-And in the meantime, while it
is waiting, arbitrate on the basis of it.
Mr. Gould-And in the meantime, if we agree
upon this BILL that becomes rule to be adopted
and everyb body could honorably accept some
thing that was for the future that was new.
Mr.. Hayes-That suggestion is very good
rather approve of that.
Mr.. Gould-Judge Dillon sent me dispatch
Yesterday on that subject. He had seen the pa
pers. He says: II congratulate you on the end
attained. If you contemplate signing any paper
committing your company to arbitration.
permanent principle or rule of conduct. hope it
will not be done until can see it." ito George
Gould)-What does he say9
George j. Gould-He is in Boston still; he is
not here.
Mr.. Gould-Is General Swayne here9
George j. Gould-Yes; General Swayne is
here.
Mr.. Gould-Ask him to step down here mo-
ment This is the dispatch that has been pre-
pared:
H. NJ Hoxie-Mr Powderly is here He said that
he was informed, while in the West by of
men, that you had declined to meet committee APP
pointed by them of their number, to discuss diff
terences. Is this so! Reply quickly
Also, the following:
Referring to Mr.. Goulds message to you of yester-
day, copy Of which was contained in his letter to
arbtrating any differences, past present between
the employees and the company" Do you agree with
this proposition. and are you willing to omen such an
arbitration A. L. HOPKINS.
Mr. McDowell-The first one we have an ans
wer to, and have not to the second
Mr.. Gould-No: we have not to either one. /
thought would read this to you now, and we
will see what reply we get.
Mr. Somerville docking at the proposed mes
make that clear / would say I'm
which he says" because it did not sound very
clear to me when you read it.
Mr. Gould-You might say, further, that our
board here think that very wise and proper
solution / would add that.
Mr. Somerville-A wise and proper thing to Go.
Mr. Goud-Yes.
Mr. McDowell-Mr. Pcwdery the point of
if it is difference-I don't know that
it is-you are drifting into this discussion to an
arbitration between the employees and the rail
roads; and you- communications have been as to
arbitration between your organization and the
road.
Mr. Powderly-Yes
Mr.. Gould-Now we are committed, you know
we are on record in regard to that-Mr Hoxie
is, and I can't take these matters out of his
hand, but it seems to me if you could agree with
General Swayne-he being here, l will put it in
bis hands. will let General Swayne sit right
down with you or with your committee, and see
If you cannot prepare DILL, and if you can pre-
pare bill that approve of and you, am
ready to so state, and that will become law for
the future, even whether it passes or not
General Swayne here entered the room and
was introduced to the committee
Mr. McDowell-Mr. Gould is referring the APP
prevail of the bill before the labor committee Of
Congress, which to be reported yesterday,
to them, to these gentlemen and your
SELF see if there is basis on which they could
agree.
Mr. Swayne-Is this the bill9 taking the
bill
Mr. Mcdowell 4 suppose that is the bill
lat this point the respective parties retired
for consultation, and shortly after returnedl
Mr.. Mcdowell, to Mr.. Gould-If you will give
General Swayne instructions so that we may sit
right down with him
Mr.. Gould-What I suggested was whether
you could not sit down and get up Just such
bill we would approve Suppose you have an
interview with him and go over it yourself, and
take Mr. Hopkins with you, for he knows the
points Go over that, section by section, and
then / will take it up with you.
General Swayne--After reading over this bill,