The Hawaiian gazette., 1886-06-15
LEGIsLATTvE ASSEMBLY.
SESSION OF lsIse.

MrpNrSpAY, June Van.

HE Assembly ceivetet 81 the pSoh bptf ami
after PRAYER By The ehaalsia and realms Of u.
taissies ey me Seervtafy. Thef following hssassss
{ Was considered.
Ua,les Suspension @ she ralss Rsg, Kaasaa srs
ssatsd petition teorn the residents Ct NaaaalSlt
/ Maui. that Hawsiians eseaged as school teacher
and Who teach Esglish. have theis salaries IN
erased to 80 fey month. 10 Cogamistcs GU Ella
estion.
Representative Kaelakoa isom The Jadieiay,
Ccrauisiee presented repcyi TN naiivcl relative
70 the action taken on the contested election cas-
I q Rep. NaAaie Of North Aoas.
I Interpreter Wilcox after the report had eecr
I Rad BY the introdacer aud bseoght % him 70,
translation inic hogiise said thai the repofl vas
lsccthy ard complicated one aad as this was she
ars tiuae II had seen before him be could not give
I gooG interpretation OF L readily, but II tht
Assembly permitted he uolld give The eist q ID
lie thea went On % say that tbs Fefcst stated that
aftsr allowing what was elained by both sies tee
l kepreSeatative elected wesla X two votes ahead
I lhe committee recommended that The prayer "
the petinoners, % eassat Rep Nshsls Dc not
| granted.
representative Castle moved thai the repo-t be
received and laid On t.hic for Translation.
Representative Hsyseldcn ruovcd that the ~
| port oe adopted
Representative Thcrstua Thought that the lat,cz
motion was rushing thincs. fhv report furnished
was IN one langusge ocly aud should b. tabled foy
trauslstica. Ihis vas another indication 20 rush
matters throesh oefore being sell understood ty
the House. lie would probably vote 70 aiop, the
repo-t after Il VAS translated. as ettet catching
WhSt Be corl3 Of the resdtng ard the Serauiiac ~
u Hawaiian be tho1.;ht the conclusion was corycct
He was ros however satisfied tbs, be understood
the detail Of the reps-t properly il being rad IN
Hawaiian oaiy. IL seemed 70 b beneash the Dig
uisy % tie docse 20 tnrce matters garcugh wish
rush, especially as tins vas az important matter
and shonl3 DC understood lntslllseatly by In she
reeuhers- For the honox Of the member cure rncSi
l tNthalsl 1t should De better understood.
Representative Castle vas satisfied thss lls ne
port u the crrarittee vas correct bgt eousdere.i
d Az pa 30 20
uSlal tuaEaer As other reports and thus becone
[ part Of The records OF tie H11se.
Representative HGyse,ieu said that his rcssoas
FOX moving the Adoption wits because he vas set
/ ts-ed It was correct be had understood il when
Rad and he believed thHt all understood Did not
consider It nlceSsr, to have the report translated
Reuresentsltive " ight Agreed with the remarks
OF the Hou. member Tor 6oiokui and II he, q
the report u was not wonderful II he, the speaker,
said he dld not hear Il. The acoustic properties OF
thaf room were nos by any means perfect and tie
member for lido Rad 50 RAPIDLY that be vas not
able 10 follow him at any tins. In conversation
he could follow him, be had SIT there quietly ex-
! pecting the report would be Rad II English. he
coclt not vote intellsssRly rndes the circrm-
stances and In simple justice he thought that 4
I translation iuto ErsliSh shCuld be made.
Rsp-essn.atiye Diekey Thought be could 81 a
Z way oct q tie t<CRbls and moved as an amend
meat tc1t the interpreter be instructed 10 trans
late the Document into English.
Representative haai WIS 10 favor Of The adoption
Of the report as Il had been presented 1t was not
necessary 10 have the report translated into
English.
Fresidsn. Walker said that to save time, be
woald rule that the motion 70 adopt the rcPor;
vas out OF order unless II vas read II both laR-
sulses-
Representative rhurstoa said that. he lad not
spoken against the bill IL any manner but Ett
simply asked FOX Translation for the sake u il
furuatiou. he considered y great discu1rtesy
TOR the majority Of the members OF the HoGss to
thus witully oppose this desire for Information.
Representative Dole stated that, the discussion
Of the subject had coUmGEceG before be arrived
n the House but be hAd heard some OF the state
uleuts ard be Vas much surprised gt the attitude
tlkc1 By some Of the members IL speIkir. OF the
matter. Il Wis purely a matter OF clureesJ %
the few foreign members who did NOT under
stand Hawaiian 70 have this report translated. be
cu1l3 not ST there without protesting against the
disposition shown 10 shat ont this information.
As tEeg sat there the Nation cutlstt1rct that
they Eers sitting as gentlemen and as such they
shOuid endeGvor 10 act Every member knew
that If i report WIS read II English. and 8 single
member did not understand Il, a request 10 have
L Rad Il HAWAIIAN would not DC refused. he
believed It was II place for the President 20 have
tins report Rad n both languages before any
motion 70 adopt It vas received
Hon &. r. Bishop sIid thar. be hal not under
stood the report and believed that there werc
several other members IN his vicinity Shat had
not be had not paid strict attention 10 the
reading In Hawaiian for be supposed as q matter
the interpreter had an opportunity to have read It
over 50 that he could give them free translation
10 might have suited Il vas asking too much that
be should translate II of hand without having
previously seen Il
President walker again said that unless tha
report WAS Translated be considered lie would not
be doing his duty II be did not rule the amend
msnt q the member for HsGoIslu HIyseIdeaI
oct OF order.
Representative Kluirk1u desired 70 know on
what r1ls the President based his decision
PresidsEt walker slid that there WIS no rule
bG. be simply based his decision or the ground Of
common sense. He had never known any q1es-
ton Of the knd 70 be raised before and be thought
il would Be bad precedent to force q vote on 4
matter winch members said they did not Under
stand He had 10 further I-teEese II the natter
than a regarded his duty to himself aud TO the
House.
Representative kauluk5g appealed from the ruI-
ir- Of the ehEir, thar a Translation sh1CLd be
given before the motion 70 ldgrt a-Is In urterl
and said that he WIS s1rry 50 tg d. but he cu1ld
not favor a ruling u1sustliEei by any rule OF
the House he had never raised such a point be-
fors.
Ra1reAeutativs Thzrst1n saiI lie belIsged the
previ11s speaker nevsr had raised such point be
fore. nor cd any one else II any Assembly IN the
world endeHTUr To mike members vote ol some
thing which they had sisted that they iIi not IN
-erstIud- The rules Of the House might not PIE
scribe that the report should Be rsld both lang
RACES bot there vas a rule Of principle and f1I--
ness which shDuld appeal - members whea 10
other rule tpPlisd- He considered that members
would Be tsTgIt Of feelings Of Common sense,
decency and justice If they voted against this de-
SIRE 70 obtain luf1rmatIlu-
Hon c. R. Bishop said thlt the ruin. WIS not z
new one, II bad been well understood chat red-
t1E means the prese1 tltl1u II both languages
The ruling vas only Common ssusu rutEEqC-ta-
tiuG 0s the veil known practices Of the HOUSE
The Minister Of Foreign Affairs said tie honor
rabbi member for Line lad Justly observed tha=
TINS was merely question Of courtesy. that tlers
were no questions Of dispute involved n the u1lt-
ter whatever. The member for Mol0kaI had
stated that be vas satisfied the report Els correct
50 far As he had heard It read Il vas a lengthy
report and 1ad been read h1rrlediy. luu he nj
uiitted himself that. though somewhat familiar
With the HEEaIIIu lIuzuHcC. be did MT under
stand 1t fully during the reading. Bat the Il-ar-
prefer had made review Of the statement ot the
c1C1ur-ree- after admitting al that was claimed
By the opposite party there still renamed a
TIL lgrIty II behalf Of the sitting member lHiEs
the gist Of the matter presented By the inter
prefer. be vas prepared 70 adopt the report.
Hou- C. E. Bishop lI1terruptingl called tie at
-sntiou q the speaker 20 the fact that be was d.
crossing from he subject Under cJusuierati0u-
The Minister Of E1rEiEn Affairs fcDutIu1iu.ri
However "a regarded the natter under dIsuE1e he
could not a-raa with the President, where there
vas 10 positive rule dscIsiUu u the chIir
should Tot be based upon opinion OF even -fr1a
TIE sreyriss Or Common sense
Representative Wight said that be considered It
his duty 70 speak. II this report vas adopted
without translation, II would be a dangerous prs-
cecent. IT, hereafter, report WIS presented n
English ald a native member objected be could
not expect - be able ID help himsGlf II this
report vas 1doPteL
Representative Diczsg. aslrzd the Minister of
torEfZu AHilrs II lie was riskt IN UNDERSTANDING
hEm 70 say that the Presuient c1uld lot make a
ruling based On cun1HDa sense
LEs Minister Of EorEign Affairs thEsIfLtllsgIF J.
( Eas-Fes-thas Il What sid, be could MT estab-
llsl II origlal mCti1n-
Representative Dlczay, disagreed With the lliu-
lister II that punt. be Judged that the Presidents
Of the Assemblies were allowed to base tiheic
rulings On Common SENSE. when ~ rule FLIsted-
Representative Ihurst0u SAID that the closing
remarks Of the Minister required comment EE
had understood the Minister 70 say tlat the PrEsi-
dent. wherH 20 rule existed cogld not base rule
ca Justice, raason or even the exercise Of CON-
E1u sense = he had taken the Eor-= dawn as
Q they fell from the hps II the Minister and be
E0Gld ask II the MIlistHr id a1E ac.IEuElati q
{ having sid 80
The Minister Of FOREIGN Affairs u answer sand
that they shoGld be governed By the written Law
/ GepHrrurs from tlaE had caHas'i rsFQiutIuls- Aa
1ulbG blr thai common serss sl1lic ZgIs t. al,
/ bat ust IL tins case.
4 keprzsensltIFs IhIrst1n sad thai the Minis
Ter had stated 10 1zcIEicu should be based 81 lust
ics raas1n OF common sense cgre-atT7a llIst b.
used and thar Els Injustice. ltI1cy and ie1orauce
/ EagrEssutatiEs Dole sud be thought the rg
marks Of the Minister alI1lrIllls III &c elna
% tla last ssntEurE- IEeu la Gi1 not believe Ill
I ears I'll ha found be was Supported By tbs mem
I Der fer M1l0kai- For instance the frat rule d