The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-08-13

5 much power 10 Ministers; they had cor
i troll OF too much Government pap. II
5 believed in leaving the appointment OF 4:
;, SCISSORS with the Minister OF Finance an
4 not with the Ministers in a body. 1t wa
/ too much power 10 give a body of men. Il
= did not care who they were. Ii the section
passed the word said" should be strucl
: out before Minister OF Finance. Their
had been no complaints as the section
stands in the present law. II ne had hi
way the Ministers should not have th,
power OF making one appointment.
Mr.. Hayselden said it was in conse
quence OF complaints The section had beer
changed, and fixed the power on the whole
Of the Cabinet. Four men could make
better selections than one. Ii any mis-
takes occurred the whole of the Cabinet
would be blamed.
Mr.. Brown favored Mr.. Dickey's motion.
An Assessor residing III a district knows
the value of land knows the inhabitants
and could hunt up all the stray dogs.
/ When the Tax Assessor gets round there
! is a fearful scarcity of dogs, also of horses.
! They know better than a stranger who had
never been in the district before in his
/ life.
Mr.. Kaulukou asked Mr. Brown if an
Assessor residing in the district would not
have lots of personal friends.
Mr.. Brown said it was expected that an
Assessor would do his duty.
Mr.. ThurSton was opposed To the
change. 1t was an additional step towards
Capitalization, which they had had up here
before. 1t was one more step against the
Legislative by the Executive He supposed
this section would pass. Some of the
members had holes in their noses, which
were controlled by wires from central
power. He believed this To be true. No
reason had been given by Mr.. Hayselden
for this change of responsibility. The
Minister of Finance, under this section,
was merely a clerk-he had to put down
what he was told. What is the use of
talking about constitutionality when the
power is changed from the Legislative to
the Executive? 1t was another step
towards Capitalization, this change of
power.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said he could |
not see much difference between the old |
law and the law under consj leration. He i
could not see any reason for Mr.. Thurs |
tons speaking of it as an indication of CEN |
tralization, and taking it away from. re-
sponsible hands. The old law says the |
Minister, with the approval OF the King. |
The latter has complete control over the |
matter. Virtually it is the action of the
King in Cabinet Council In this instance
it is palmer, and gives what actually does
take place. Where is the evasion of re-
Sponsibiiity? The Ministers are response
bic for the iniudiciOus appointment of As
SCISSORS. One valuable feature in this sec
ton is the change OF time, making it later.
Under the old law one Minister was 1e-
sponsible, while this section makes the
whole four responsible. He could not
believe Mr.. Thurston's argument. that
it was towards Capitalization. Mr.
had referred to the mem
bers as having holes in their
noses. 1t was most unworthy remark,
and in accord with his usual line of speech.
For a native-born Hawaiian to say such
things of Hawaiian members, that they
came here without any mind of their own,
mere lickspittles prepared to be led about
with a ring in their noses was an insult
and an outrage upon them he could not
coming from that quarter.
Mr.. Richardson moved to amend by in
sorting in place of the words The King in
Cabinet Council" the following words:
The Minister of Finance with the APP
prevail of His Majesty the King in Cabinet
Council"
Mr.. Thurston said he could not see any
difference between the responsibility of
one and four Minister'S What is every
bodys business is nobody's business. His
objection to the section had been removed
by Mr.. Richardson's amendment
Mr. Dole said a precedent had been es-
tablished in putting a Hawaiian to fill the
office of Minister of Finance. These men
had been treated in the most humiiiating
One was sent out of the country
which was against the law, and they all
knew that these men had been snubbed
while in office. They had been made
aughing-stocks before the whole nation
But they had man in Office now whom
they cannot treat so. The passage of this
section will reduce him to a clerk and dis
tribute his authority away to the King and
Cabinet Council. If they went to the
and asked who was responsible,
they each would say it was the King. Let
is not degrade the office. If a kanaka or
laole is not good enough, then put in
Jhinaman. With such samples of white
men for Ministers, it would be better to
put in Hawaiians. \ man should be held
for the acts of his own office.
The present Minister of Finance was pre-
pared to stand by his responsibility.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said that
Mr.. Dole was very painstaking and valu-
able member, and he appreciated his
efforts He assisted at times in matters of
legislation and he (the speaker) had taken
pains to follow him. He was not a lawyer
and sat still, but sometimes he was in ac-
;ordance with Mr. Dole's views. But
sometimes he gets into a scolding
vein and INDUCES in ad captandum
statements, thinking it would catch the
ear of the Hawaiian representatives. Mr..
Dole had drawn picture of an insulted
Minister of Finance lie did not know
whom he referred to unless it was the Ha-
waiian gentleman who occupied the office
a little time ago, and whose character was
denounced and villihed by him and his
fellow scold Mr.. Thurston. He (Mr. Dole)
does not hear in mind that in his remarks