Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1886-04-14

fore the Irish people IS being the whole
basis Of mischief. Would the Irish
people have been satisfisd with these
identical laws if placed before them in
native decisions [Criss OF "No!"l
There was q fearful agrarian prob
lem which had hitherto baified
the efforts Of all statesmen. The
real basis Of mischief was that the views
Of the majority OF Irish people on some
of the chief principles Of legislation
were different from those held in Eng
land and Scotland from those current
in every civilized country. [Parnellite
cries Of "No. no.'l The attitude Of
the Irish on the agrarian laws. and on
questions of contract held sacred In
other countries, was hostile attitude.
Never had no-rent manifestos found
acceptance in any other country in
Europe. IParnellite cries Of at was
pecessary."1
That's Just it," continued the
speaker. "The Irish party are con-
tending for a revolutionary change in
the laws of Ireland which would make
those laws different from those Of every
other civilized country" Cheers
Mr.. Goschen next coutended that
there was no analogy between the po-
sition Of Ireland and England and that
Of Norway and Sweden, or Austria and
Hungary. The Irish and English inter-
ests. he said, were so interlaced that
when they came to the finance question
they would find it difficult to decide
whether the income TO be taxed was
. English or Irish. Their inter-
ests could not be ASSOCIATED.
ICheers.l 1t was now proposed to
admit a portion Of the Irish members
to the imperial Parliament, but could
the Irish claim that they should be here
voting on English and Scotch affairs,
while the English Parliament would
have no control over Irish matters:
The fact was they could not treat Ire
land differently from England and Scot
land; and the only possible conclusion
was that if they gave national Parlia-
ment to ireland they must also
grant the same to England and
Scotland. [Cheers.l The speaker
then argued that the presence Of
an Irish contingent in Parliament
would again place English affairs at the
mercy Of Irish members; that new
Dublin Parliament would speedily re-
duce the qualification for the election Of
the first order; making the basis pro-
badly a judicial rental laughter; that
the imperial Parliament did not know
whether it would have any veto at all,
and that the bill if passed would effect
an entire change in the Irish executive,
involving every institution of Ireland
judges, magistrates, and civil service
. change without parallel, except that
effected by the French revolution,
when even all criminal laws were re-
yised. Such revolution would not
be merely political, but would also be
social one. Even if the laws for
Ireland were made here, the execu-
ton OF these laws would be
entrusted to a revolutionized ex-
ecutiye. Loud Opposition CHEERS
Further England would be responsible
to foreign countries for the conduc. Of
Ireland. If the latter caused any
breach of neutrality, or by neglect of
municipal laws inflicted damage on
other countries. England might have
war on her hands, while Ireland
would not contribute penny
toward the expenses Of the war.
II an Alabama" escaped from
Ireland or an lrishman en-
listed to succor a Roman Catholic
country in war on the continent. Eng
land would Re responsible while the
Irish executive, over which the Eng
lish would have no control, would alone
be 10 blame. Conspirators, Nihilists,
and dynamitards might flock to Dub
lin. ICres Of 4" Oh A, oh :" and cheers
1t would be q difficult task to close Ire
land against dynamite allies from the
other side Of the Atlantic.
On behalf OF Irish Loyalists, Mr..
Goscben protested against their aban-
Comment. Countries Inundated by de-
feat had seen portion oftheir subjects,
relying on their honor, handed over to
their enemies; but for a nation in the
p!enitude Of power 10 hand over its
loyal adherents was an act never before
recorded in the annals of history.
lCheers.l
The speaker admitted that ireland
required special legislation, but he saw
no necessity for heroic measures. A
central political body in Dublin would
zap the foundations Of local life, so he
would sooner build up in Ireland sys-
tenn Of government through local and
municipal bodies than establish CEN
tral body, which must, from the essence
Of its nature, be political.
In conclusion be denied that tirmness
could be called coercion, and said that
there would be no repression if there
was no crime. He could not foresee
any outbreak Of crime. The United
States had had g difficulty twenty
years ago, and Europe had advised the
North that it could not manage the
South. If the United States had &C
cepted that opinion, there would now
be two nations of Americans instead
Of one. II we were TO listen to
the voice OF America now-not the
unanimous voice, because many Ameri-
cans thought it madness to concede
home-rule-then the United Kingdom
would become two nations instead of one.
Cayour had said that the disruption Of
the bonds uniting the British islands
would be hateful and criminal enter
prise. 1t would be hateful and criminal
responsibility. Opposition Cheers For
The weakening Of those ties rested with
the Premier and his followers. Those
resisting the breakup Of the empire
must close up their ranks and shoulder
to shoulder resist the bill. IEnthusias-
tic che eriDg.l
Replying to Goschen, Mr.. Gladstone,
referring to what be had himself said
in reference to the expressed wishes Of
the Irish renresentatiyee reminded the