Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1886-06-08

Thirty-The English Statesman Loudlv
Cheered by the Irish Members on
Taking His Seat in the House.
Bulletin.
LONDON, June 7.
The government was defeated by a major
ity of 80 on the second reading of the home
rule bill
LONDON, June 7.
Gladstone entered the House of Commons
at 400 this afternoon and proceeded straight
10 MS seat. when his presence was noticed
he was greeted with tremendous cheers
The House of Commons was crowded to
Its utmost capacity at the hour of opening
the session.
Gladstone replying to q question said the
government was unable to promise to in
corporate measures for home rale govern
ment IN England, Wales and Scotland in the
revised Irish home rule bill when it should
be brought in during the autumn session in
the event of its passing the second reading
now
The opposition loudly cheered John Bright
and Lord Harrington as they entered and
| took their places.
The Parnellites were all in good voice and
they gave Gladstone a most enthusiastic
welcome.
Right Hon. Mr.. George ]. Goschen, lib
eral, resumed the debate on the home rule
OIL. tie said the sovereignty of the i'm
perial parliament: depended on the clauses
which it was highly probable the majority of
the House would never consent to. If the
bill passed Tremendous struggle would be
inaugurated by the Catholic clergy of Ire
land for control of the education in that
country. 1t had been ELECTED in varieus
letters which had passed between the premier
and his followers that the reconstruance of
the bill was the basis on which many mem
bers would unite in voting with the govern
ment on the measure, which everyone ad-
mitted was the most important ever submit
ted to Parliament.
| The premier was now more anxious to learn
from his followers what they will authorize
him to give than he is to insist upon know
ing what the Parnellite's will accept
Cheers No hopes had been rendered that
clause "a would be dropped and this meant
the disappearance permanently of the Irish
members from the imperial parliament. Cos
chen's speech was logical arraigpment of
the premier's speech and was enthusiastically
applauded. He referred to the various fea-
lures of the home rule bill aud among other
things said: Difficulties would arise under
the foreign enlistment act and in cases like
that of Alabama, the imperial parliament
would be responsible for the acts of the Irish
executive and yet be powerless to control the
executive. The Canadian executive was now
in trouble with America. England was re-
sponsible for Canada and had to settle the
difficulty. The premler's friends had not
condescended to reply to that argument. Sup
pose discomfort arose, eliminating in agia-
ton and the ultimate separation, the mem
bers must not forget Morley's warning. If
discomfort arose in Ireland, Irish Americans
would place material resources at Ireland's
command. If parliament parted with its ex-
ecutive power in Ireland and alienated its
friends and made them bitter foes and placed
the executive power in new and untried
hands, would they meet this difficulty !?
He urged the members not to main the con
stitution of which they were only life trus-
tees. No foreign country, he said, ever had
a Parliament a. life trustees. They were
bound to hand over their glorious possession
without detriment to those coming after
them. In conclusion, he said:
Il impiore the House BY the tradition of
which we are heirs, by the obligations of
duty and honor. by our hopes of future of
the empire and by our duty to the Queen to
look to 1t, that those who come after US shall
bear witness that we have betrayed our
trust" Loud cheers.
Parnell was the next speaker. He was
loudly cheered by his followers. He said
l should ordinarily have lacked confidence in
following so able and eloquent speaker in
this contest of grants. But think thrice is
he armed who hath his quarrel Justed; and
unequal and inferior as | am at any points,
| hope | shall not be so far behind as usual.
Hear Hear Y Without intending to offer
any dsrespect, could not help thinking
while listening to his speech that in all the
lost causes wherewith have seen him con
nected during many years past he was never
so little effective as when contending against
the bill we hope to pass here tonight.
| Cheers. Goschen sought, | think, very
unfairly, to cast lurid light on the situation
by his allusion to those unhappy outrages in
Kerry. join in expressions OF contempt tor
those cowardly, disgracetul practises. | join
him to the fullest extent. But neither do
say that because the evctions have been more
numerous than in Kerry than all the rest OF
Munster put together, during months past
that they constitute an exclse for these ou
RACES, but it may supply US with the csuse of
them; but when | denounce outrages de
nounce them in every part of Ireland, whether
in Ulster or in Kerry. Hear Hear Cos
chen is crtanly free from reproacb. He ha 5
not Joined Lord Randolph Churchill AMI
Chamberlin in the use of reckless language
with reference to the affairs of a country
which is not their country. Cheers. NV
colleagues have in times past been repr oach-
| ed because they have not been careful in
| looking at the effect of their language, and
doctrine of indirect responsibility has been
| employed against them to the extent of i'm
prlsonment. If that doctrine of indirect re-
sponsibilitv were employed against Lord
Randolph Churchill or Chamberlain, Lord
Randolph Churchill could plead as
an excuse that he believes in moth
ing and nobody but himself, so that he could
not expect any great importance to be at
tached to his declarations; cheers and
laughter while Chamberlain might have
said, and said very truly, that he was abso-
lutely ignorant of all the circumstances of
Ireland. His celebrated project visit there
last autumn, not having come off, he really
could not know what would be the effect of
his language. However, we have the result
now in one murder already committed in
Belfast, and trust that all future members
will remember the importance and gravity
| of the occurrences which my follow
in Ulster. Those occurrences can
not go further at the outside
than outrage and assassination; but they will
depend very much upon what is said on this
subject and amount of importance given to
the doings of the Ulster men. We do say and
admit that these occurrences are to be con-
demued and should be stopped. Bot while
/ Lord Randolph Churchill and Goschen say
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