Salt Lake evening Democrat. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1885-1887, 1886-03-11
Suit gake Democrat.
PRIvATEDOCUMENTs AND PAPERS
Pugh Makes IA speech in Relation
To the Contest Between the
President and the Scnnte.


WASHINGTON, March 10.-The Chair placed
before the Senate the resolutions of the Jul
dietary Committee concerning the relations
of the President and the Senate.
Pugh said he had expressed his views
fully upon the subject of this debate in a re-
port from the Judiciary Committee made by
the minority, and the main object he had in
now addressing the Senate in reply to the
Senator from Vermont, was to prevent, if it
were in his power to do so-which he ad-
mitted was difficult undeItaking-to pre-
vent that Senator from changing
THE CHARACTER OF THE QUESTION
Between the Senate and the President. The
real character of that controversy cannot be
misunderstood or misrepresented, rs it had
arisen from the facts apparent upon the re-
cord and reported by the majority of the
Judiciary Committee. When this Senator
was ut the wheel he steered by his own
chart. He never ran on a straight line, he
never consulted other sailors, and he lost
his temper when there was any question of
the skill of his seamanship. When the Of
ficer of the ship undertook to select the crew
to man without his advice and consent, he
constantly headed the mutiny at the risk of
mourning the displeasure of his honorable
and distinguished friends. He should call
reckoning so that we might understand
where we are and whittier we are drifting.
What were the facts by which it is the duty
of all of us TO be guided? They were few
and simple.
Pugh related the facts connected with the
Duskin case, and said the Senate resolution
did not call for the public or official docu-
ments, but for
THE PRIVATE DOCUMENTS AND PAPERS
Relating exclusively to the official act of the
President in the suspension of Duskin as
District Attorney. Yet the refusal of the
Attornay Canorof fya veal, , ftar tha ov,,;ro
ton of his term of office to send i'll private
documents relating to the suspension of
Duskin was criticised in the resolution of the
majority as an act SO wrongful as to be
sufficient ground for instant impeachment.
AS to the relations between the President
and his Cabinet officers, Pugh quoted from
one of Edmunds speeches on the tenure of
Office act, showing EdmLnds held that Cab
met officers should be gentlemen personally
agreeable to the President, being his con-
fidential advisers. Yet the Senate was asked
to pass resolution condemning the Attor-
ney-General for obeying the President.
whose adviser he was. Pugh in the course
of his speech, averred the non-existence of
any case in the history of the Government
for eighty years where any such documents
as those called for in the resolution were
ever transmitted to the Senate, in executive
or public session, on the order of the Senate
upon the Attorney General or President.
AFTER SPEAKING IN BEBuTTAL
Of the various other points made by Ed
munds, among which was that relating to
the circumstances of the removal of Judge
Shaefer, of the Territory of Utah, Pugh
called the attention of the Senate to the ex-
pedlency and practicability of such power
being exercised by the Senate. He read
from the report of the minority, as bearing
upon the point, q portion of the extract
from the message of President Grant in
1869, calling attention TO the embarrass-
ant,tn ,tyr1,y 10 ,.,,
statute books the tenure of office act, and
asking what faith the President could put in
subordinates forced upon him and how such
officials would be likely to serve an admins
tration, knowing that it had no faith in him.
In conclusion, Pugh said his object had been
to define the character of this conflict of the
authority between the President and the
Senate, and to fortify the view that had al
ways been taken by the Democratic party,
by authorities Cleveland had no fear of an
appeal to the people. He was responsible
to them. de supposed majority in the
Senate had no fear of appealing to the peo-
pie in favor of the omnipotence of the
Senate. He knew the minority had none in
appealing TO the people upon the omnipo-
tence of the Constitution and the
INTEGRITY OF oLEvELAND's ApMINIsrRAT IoN
Mr. Wilson, of Iowa, was recognized by
the Chair, but upon the suggestion of Sena-
tor Allison consented that the pending bust
ness be temporarily laid aside in order that
the Senate might proceed to consider the
urgent deficiency bill, which was then taken
up and an amendment recommended by the
Committee on Appropriations was agreed to,
appropriating $4,000 to defray the expenses
of General Grants funeral.
AN ITEM OF $1S5,0OO DEFICIENCY
In the Department of Justice gave rise to
some debate.
Mr.. Edmunds, Mr.. Ingalls, and Mr.. Plumb
commented on the fact that the deficiency
was greater than under the Republican adj
ministration, and Mr.. Voorhees,, Mr.. Beck,
Mr.. Cockrell and Mr.. Call defended the pres
ent Administration, and insisted that the ex-
traordinary expenditures were necessary in
connection with the execution of the laws in
Utah.
Mr.. Teller said the reason why the de-
ficiency bills came before Congress at all
was because Congress did not do its duty in
making the appropriations in the first
place.
Mr.. Beck wanted the bill held over until
tomorrow so that he might look into it,
but the majority of the Senators wanted it
passed at once. and it was accordingly
passed.
The Senate adjourn ID, leaving Edmunds'
resolution as the unfinished business for 2
O'Clock, Wilson of Iowa having the floor.