Wheeling register. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1878-1935, 1886-11-06
BEECHER ON ENGLAND.
THE EMINENT DIVINE SUBMITS 10 AN
INTERVIEW.
His Views on the Political, Social and General Con-
ditOn Of Great Brain-IrelAnd Ought 10
Have and Will Get Home Rule
Starvation In Soudan.

NEW YORK, November 5.-The Rev.
Henry Ward Beecher yesterday submitted
himself to the interviewer for the first time
since his return from Europe. Referring
to his last visit to England % years ago
he said: THE contrast between the atti-
tude of England then and now toward
America was striking. Then English pub
lie opinion was against the United States.
The large factory population Of Lancan-
shire, although suffering from famine for
want of our cotton, sympathized with US
in our struggle, but the influential people
of Great Britain not only were opposed TO
the sentiment of the North, but to
a very great extent supported the South.
That has now been so changed that it may
be said that there has been complete revo-
luton in the thought Of the people in that
respect. think that this has been largely
brought about by the increase oftravel be-
tween the two countries enabling us to
get better acquainted with each other.
Then also the immense tide of emigration
to the United States, has bound the popu-
lation of the two Countries together by
the tenderest ties. Any allusion in my
public addresses to the ties of kindred be-
tween the two Nations TO the bond OF re-
spect and affection that bound us together
as one people never failed TO excite the
loudest and most enthusiastic applause. {,
As to the
POLITICAL AND SOCIAL
condition of the English people, Mr..
Beecher said. THE answer 10 that Is
bound in what is at the foundation Of all
material prosperity, namely the land.
In the relation of the people to the loud,
great and fundamental Congress are going
on that are affecting their social condition
from the top to the bottom, and which
will also affect their political condition.
For example land owners who formerly
would obtain from seven pounds TO eight
pounds per acre for the rent Of their land,
are glad to let il 90 for 30 shillings, and
sometimes cannot get that. The conse-
quence is that the owners of the land in
stead Of renting it to farmers To
middle men, or TO their
stewards are farming the lands under their
own direction, and are selling the produce
direct either TO the retail dealer or the
consumer. Facts of this character have
forced upon the public mind questions in
relation to land tenure TO the law OF
entail.. and primOgeniture that hitherto hay,
aided in the cntrenchment of a landed and
privileged class, accustomed to separate
itself to very great degree socially from
the bulk of the people. Then | noticed
that there is growing discomfort in re
gard TO
THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS,
or boarding schools, as they are called, in
England. II is true that these schools give
free education, but it is doled out mor'
or less rs charity. This is owing partly to
the position of the established churcl
which has interfered considerably with the
development of a public school system like
that we are familiar with here. There Is
disposition the part Of the English people
to put the education Of their children OF
the same footing that we have it-that II
that it shall be a right and not charity.
"a few words
ABOUT IRELAND,
Mr. Beecher:
my convictions as TO what Ireland
ought to have are not changed in any es
sential point by my visit. While ] was
there heard great deal about Ireland
and visited some portions Of the country.
Ireland will obtain home rule, and she
ought to have it. ] mean by that gov
ernment that shall resemble that of ouI
own State Government.
do not think she ought TO be separated
from the mother country. Any dismem-
berment of Ireland from her relation to the
Imperial Government, j would resist with
as much ferver and determination as re-
sisted the secession of South carolina.
think, however, that this principle Of To-
cal government will be Just as eagerly
sought by the English, the Scotch and the
Welsh people as it has been by the Irish,
and while the Irishman may get il first
the other portions Of the family Of Great
Britain will not be without the same priv
ilege very long. The British people ex.
pect to obtain very soon manhood suffrage
and this with the
DIsEsTA ABLIsHMEST OF THE CHURCH or
ENGLAND
will bring about great social and political
changes think the disestablishment OF
the church is in the near future, and
while regard the Church Of England AZ
the most aggressive and the most jealous
of all the denominations Of the religious
sects in Ireland, think that she would
be greatly strengthened for good by this
separation. Every agency that can posi-
bly, elevate the people in their moral and
religious relations ought TO have free
course. When looked at the population
of London and caught glimpse
now and then Of its low
er strata, was lost in