New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-09-03
A TORY PLAN OF ATTACK.
xArIoNALIsrs ACCUSED OF TREASON.

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cn,ryioht; 1886 NORTH american Cdoie Ne'os y"
,,o>nox Sept. 2.-Maiol f. j. Saundcrson Meuoe
,p.r,;ament for North Armagh, Ireland, ana one oi
A. ohiefs of the Orange body, said today concernns
49, nrobable Parliamentary action basel upon 'n'
s.,ses Of treason and perjury made against certain
,r,b members in Ridgeway's pamphiet on tue oo"'P"
..v for the repeal of the Union:
,onsider the accusations contained In the pampn
.. hooked mn by the accusations in Arnold Fosters
-, troviouslv cabledl, to be of 80 serious char-
;olv;o0 as they DO the honor and dignity OF
-, H.. IN the persons of certain OF Its members
:; INV Intention if the rules of the House permit
'" ,,,ns the matter before the House. shall 90
orswer TO n distinct challenge on the part OF "r'
c,oo in which he asks me to state IN the "ouee
That have already stated in the country 'ha' u"ue
certain conditions the Irish Loyaists were
a. ,otc M arms and try conclusions OF force ra'"'
- suhmt TO the rule aud authority OF men wno'n
.hov believed to be dsloyal 10 the crown anu ""o
t,ev were persuaded aimed at the dismemperen. ""N
aostrnctlon of the British Empire. we 90 no' peie''
,h., in the course we have adopted we are opPo'"e
Che real wishes of the Irish people. we peiie'e We
arc fighting against band of men VINO depend' ho' ."
A.. fracl
asoend alog ther upon foreign support and upon 'or
,;a;os Jbave no doubt whatever that IL the
90 rs sro,n which they derive their monetary sup
80 ee ont off the Nationalist party so-called Woulu
- nm and no longer offer the grave oosuucuoh
o,n al rrescnt enabled to do to the functions Oh
the British Parliament.
, awe believe the Nationalist party In the house VI
Commous have not been returned by the aehoei"'o
.cton of Irsh public opinion, but that large hunue'
of Nationalist members who at present s' Ia Wv
House have obtained their seats as consequence v
coercion exercised by the National League o'o, 'O
Irish people. The decaying influence eie''iSea y
the Nationalist party over the lrish peope is '"o"
nv the falling off In the SUBSCRIPTIONS 'na' eo'
directly from Ireland. At the present momen'' INC
marty is maintained almost entirely on American uoi
lars The pecuniary difficulties OF the Stnauoh "ero
contemplated beforehand by Parnell, in undertaking
the campaign. as shown by the following statement
BY John OConnor. NJ. P, made at the meeting Oh 'ne
Cork National League October 8, 1889. >,
ain reference to the approaching election he said
II ouote from report telegraphed to Dublin there
were lot of men seeking election on account Oh 'ne
beef that they we're to be paid sufficient TO MAINTAIN
than IN London. He advised them to be cautious In
that respect lest their hopes might not % luheu'
He knew Mr. Parners mind on the subject ana l. was
that he would have ninety members aiVloed 'o niee
classes There would be independent members VINO
o,a ho abl. 70 maintain themselves in London
there would be those who could remain at homo until
they were summoned to London TO vote on critical
occasions when perhaps, they could afford the neces
.ary expense and there were other men OF transcen
dent ability that Mr. Parnen would have around him
and whose maintenance IN LONDON "ouiu oe oeila!eu
from the National fund.-
ave feel 1t to be absolutely necessary that the true
,,e Of the case should be understood both sides
of the Atlantic and my actien Is intended to draw
public attention to the facts, which, we feel amply
mstfv us in the determined stand we have taken
AGAINST submitting to the rule of paid agitators and
mereenary politicians.
THE BELFAST AMENDMENT DISCUSSED.
mr. SEXTON DECLARES THAT MAJOR sAUNDERsoN
HAS INCITED REBELLION,
IoSDoN. Sept Pin the House of Commons
today Mr. Mcdonald, member for Sligo, resumed the
dsbate ON Mr. sextons amendment to the address. He
attributed the troubles in Belfast to the incemeoto OF
certain reverend rebrands and the speeches of Lord
Randolph Churchill and Mr.. Chamberlain. He said that
the magstracy was apa thetic while blood was peing
shed and that II the police bad been allowed TO deend
themselves at outset the rioting would quickly nave
been subdued
Major saundersop, Conservative, member Tor North
Armagh, deprecated the useless prolonging" OF the
debate He said IL wac impossible to treat Sir William
Vernon Harcourt serious politician Willie ne az
tached less weight to measures than TO men He asked
how long Haroour had been In favor OF separate Par-
lament to discuss Harcourts former views
concerning social order In Ireland when the speaker
interpOsed, sayi that the amendment referred TO
Belfast specially and not TO Ireland generally. Major
saunderson denied the House justified In pre-
Judging question which about TO- form the subject OF
. searching inquiry by the commsson. He denied aoso-
lutey that Orangemen originated the riots, which, he
sad the legacy Of Gadsones blood stained policy
which extended from Khsrtoum to Belfast. lCheers.
lie denied Mr.. sextons assertion that Orangemen had
tKen an oath 10 exerminate Catholics Orange lodges,
he sad always opened with prayers and one OF the
petitions that Irish Catholics might be rescued from
tile Of their ways. Laughter II Parliament
handed them to the Parnelltes Orangemen would
be justified in resortng to force CrangemeD objected to
being dominated by politicians who received foreign
uoney for their support
John Morley. late Chief Secretary for Ireland.
said he thought Mr.. saunderson's language was
saunderson nursed re9ellious thoughts, but
GOOD chance Of being "jsi.Oird." ICheers.I
Mir. tinkerton, an Irish Protestant. defended tho
for Antrim, stigmatzed him as renegade"
The Speaker called upon Mccartney to withdraw the |
Mr. REDMOND, Nationalist, said that he would be sorry
"tO descend TO the depths OF Macarneys scurrilous
language" The Speaker obliged him TO apologize to |
.he House. Redmond obeyed, saying he had intended
Mr. Bisrsr Nationalist blamed the present and pre-
vous Governments not having enforced the law |
against the carrying OF lie said that the real
cause OF the rlos was the fact that justice
honestly administered III Belfast
sir william Vernon Harcourt severely censured !,
LORD Randolph Churchill for stirring up tho pas
nons OF the people Of Belfast. He said
that Sir Henry james had condemned
IS tratorous Chmehirs letter to The Times
IN which he said Ulster will fight" etc
kuoh the judgment the Uniomists on ChurchiIls
Doctrine. loppositon cheers The speaker
Churchil. when the latter exclaimed that he
had been incorrectly reported. Sir William
asked why LORD Randolph had not made
such an explanation before lie accepted the contra
action. but there still remained the doctrine of resist
ance 10 the law. lie could only characterize Ian
guase advancing such doctrine as that Of
treason ana rebellion. lCheers.l Tho Orange party
he continued, had long been the curse OF Ireland IL
had kept alive and religious hatreds and WAS mora
harmful than all the other societies TCbeers
After loud calls for Lord Randolph Churchill, TO