New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-03-25
CASEY YOUNG'S DEFENCE.
QUESTIONING THE COMMITTEES POWER.
,AnoREp EXPLANATIONS OF THE DEALINGS OF
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IN The truth OF statements In his letters to Rogers
heretofore published ia THE TRIBUNE one OF which is {:
OF am Indebted to your generosity for what interest
have In IT," Garland and the others were indebted like
v;se 10 Rogerss generosity" The fact was made 10
nppear that tho Telephone charter was not obtained
An NeyY York or New-Jerscy, but in Tennessee. mainly
because in latter state stock subscriptions were
required lie tried hard to show that IL was all right
for local Pan Electric Company to sell its own stock
because people who bought 1t did so with their eyes
omen He did not add that the faith Of investors
was strengthened by judioOus display OF tae legal
opinions OF Garland and Harris.
senator Harris arrived rather late today, he and At
toroey.Geueral Garland having made call at the White
House in the forenoon. Among the spectators was OK
Congressman Hnkle, OF the Baltimore Pdn-Electric
Company who said 10 TRIBUNE correspondent that the
stock that company soils at $40 to $50 snare
Garlands undivided interest in this stock amounts 10
625 or 1850 shares There seems to be some DOUBT as
10 whether tho capital stock is 50 100000 or S1oOoooo
MI Young took up the thread OK his testimony by eN
planning that and others had been against the issu
inc Of stock because he believed that it would be proper
first to the precise value OF the various hfeh
tions aud demonstrate their utility, and 1t would not be
proper to msead the public by an issue OF stock III al
vance of the demonstration of tho utility and validity Oh
the patents.
The chairman asked why State rights had been sold
The witness piled that they wanted TO utilize their
patents and persons who bought the State rights IN
every case agreed open telephone exchanges Every
paeut granted in the United states was sod Ia tha
way.
The chairman referred DR. Rogers's testimony rea
five to members OF Congress wanting to get IN on the
cropnd floor" and asked what basis there for the
statement
The witness said that at informal meeting in his
room there had been conversation about the DISPOSE
ton OF the stock They had talked about people who
wanted buy stock and the witness now remembered
that he said something about members of Congress
But nobody had said ythng about the ground floor
within his recollection. He remembered distinctly that
he had never sold disposed of stock by gift or
otherwise to any member of Congress. "No member
that know OF has wandered in any noor' said the
witness positively
The chairman turned to DR.. Rosers's testimony rela-
tive to the conversation the witness in which
was stated that Attorney Garland had promised
20 bring suit.
Mr. Young denied making any such statement TO DR..
Rogers. The conversation, as he recollected
it. occurred between July so and August 2.
lie to the Doctor the substance OF his converse
ton with National people about consolidating the
two companies. The witness said that Van Benthuysen
had addressed letter to the Attorney asking
him bring suit against the Bell Company in the name
OF the Government and that his action had grown out
OF the witnesses statement TO Van Benthuysen that
law had passed the session of Congress authorz
ing the bring to vacate pat
cuJs and making 1t his duty 10 do So Then Rogers re-
crred to the he had written to the Attorney Gem
eral on May "a The witness said that II Van Benthuy-
sen Insisted upon MS right uuder that law it the
Generals duty bring suit and he cou'd see
no escape from it, for PanElectric it was deli
cate matter and the company could have nothing TO do
with it.
Mr. Boyle-Did you say that the Attorney General had
promised TO bring suit for any company!
MI Young-So SIR The A;torneyGcneral never told
me or any else that know Of that he would bring
suit
Continuing, Mr.. Young said that he did not know OF
the Attorney snerars departure to Arkansas until he
saw it announced in the Cincinnati papers. lie bad
spoken to SolcitorGeneral Goode about the AT
departure. Until he had it in the
papers he had that that the AttorneyGen
eral was TO leave town in order that GOOde might bring
suit He had nothing to do with filing the application
for the Government suit ut Memphis. He did not APP
prove did not Ike the FORM He had asked
Attorney IeCOrry 20 have the suit brought at
our relation but McCOrry ad declared that he would
do nothing Of the sort. saying " You gentlemen may
do exactly as the Bell people are charged with do
ing-get up cousve suit This suit is brought at the
instance OF the people"
After tho Van Beuthuyscn interview with the At
rney-Gencral the witness at Van Benthuysen's re
quest wrote leitor the President appealing from
the action Of the Attorney General in refusing to have
anything TO do with telephone suit 1t
was never upon their arrival they found the
Attorney General absent and Solicitor GoOde brought
suit lie had mentioned subject to Goode prior
70 that He had asked GOUdo II the papers had arrived,
was informed that they had not aud left the ohice
within five minutes. Senator Harris with him.
Next morning the witness called again and told by
Goode tina, the papers had reached him. Goode was
writing the order TO McCOrry. He mad intended to ask
GOode bring the suit in the form he desired but upon
consideration concluded that would not DO the right
thing do Previous to that time witness mad looked
over the authorities and satisfied himself Of the power
OF the Government to bring suit to annul patents Had
found seventeen instances where it had done So
The chairman-Was any thing said in the conversations
with dr Goode about referring to the Interior Depart
mentl
Mr. YOung-Oh, 10 such thing has been
done. collected The cases in my brief, and every
has been brought the district whore it
was asked to be brought did not consider it an I'M
usual practice and would nave asked FOR it he suit
myself, but felt decscy because of Mr. Garland's
connection.
printed in buff asked If of that kind had been
The witness replied that he had never before seen a
certificate OF the kind
Nj Rinnoy inquired /! tho idea OF taking out New
jersey charter had not been abandoned because the
NewJeTsey law required tie capital stock TO be paid up
The witness repAedthat be dld not know the reason
Mr.. k6nney-There was not single dollar pai1 into
tee tennessee COMPANY GHs PanEecnc Telephone
Mr. YOuug-No sir; our Tennessee law does not re-
Continuing, the witness said that he did recognize
the authority OF the committee 10 Inquire into the pIl
nish voluntarily all information he could Certih
of stock had been given to each Of he associates
except General Johnston who had refused TO take his
The Oneenth interest that remaiued had been allotted
10 tue company and from tue common stock had been
taken the $4,000 that had been promised by Dr. ROg
to MS friends
Mr. Young-I never made any inquiry about their
matters will teyou OF my own affairs II you want to
know
Mr. Ranuey--Dr Rogers said that he chose his asso-
eases for their integrity. not for their money Isit true
that they were not men OF capitalf
Mr. Young (sharplyD-You had better AJAX DR.. Rogers
Hr Oates objected 10 the line OF inquiry
witness announced his readiness tell all that he
knew about financial standing OF his associates but
after some discussion the objection sustained by
party vote
Mr.. Ranney-As matter OF fact the stock was gift
to you aud your associates was II not
Mr. YOung-NO, sir nothing like gift. That paper
shows that 1t contract and every company Is or
gained IN that way.