The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-09-16

be made to it, the question shall be: 'Shal
this bill be rejected? If no opposition b
made, or if the question to reject be mega
lived, the bill shall go to its second reading
without a question"
Mr.. Dole said that rule was entirely op
Posite to Mr. Kaulukou's argument.
Mr. Thurston said the ruling OF the
Chair was arbitrary and unjust. There
was no precedent for such ruling. He
remembered one bill which was exhaust
lively discussed before it was rejected.
Mr. Aholo said there was no rule pro
! hibiting a member from explaining his
/ bill. He understood the rule was TO pre-
| vent members from jumping up all over
| the House and speaking to points of order
/ when they were all out of order them
! selves.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said Mr.. Aholo
was generally correct, but this time he was
not If there had been no opposition to
the bill it would have passed to second
reading. But as there was opposition it
could be discussed, even if it takes three
weeks. He took the floor so as TO give
tersely and concisely his reasons why the
bill should be rejected.
Mr.. Kaulukou asked the Attorney Gen
eral whether he was supporting the bill or
Mr.. Dole's appeal.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said he should
be compelled to vote against the ruling of
the Chair.
Hon. Mr.. Bishop said there was no rule
to prevent bill being debated on first
reading. Heretofore it had not been usual
to do SO. They had, under the circum-
stances, to follow the precedents of the
United States Congress and the British
Parliament. In Congress a bill may be
debated on its first reading. 1t had not
been the practice here to debate bills on
their first reading. They generally passed
to the regular order. But where there was
"a motion to reject there must be an Oppor-
tunity for the introducer of bill to ex-
plain it.
Mr.. Aholo said the ruling that nothing
should be said for or against the bill was
wrong. If the ruling of the Chair was
that Mr.. Dole could not explain his bill,
then the President had gone beyond his
limits.
Mr.. KaulukOu said he supported the
ruling of the Chair. The bill was seeking
to come before the House, but a motion
had been made to reject it, He had moth |
ing against Mr.. Dole, but it was too late to
such bill.
The President said he had no desire to |
practice arbitrary rulings, nor that the |
House should sustain the Chair in any |
such rulings. He misunderstood the ex-
planatory remarks of the Hon. Mr.. |
Bishop. The rules of the United States |
Congress do admit of bill being debated |
on first reading, therefore he would with
draw his ruling
Mr.. Keau moved the bill be indefinitely |
Mr.. Dole said the motion was out of
order.
Mr.. Keau said his motion was based on
rule 80.
Mr.. Dole admitted the bill was a long
one, but it was the voice of one OF the dis
riots of the Kingdom, and was part of the
regular business of the House. If it was
killed it would be rather a slap in the face
% the district and the introducer.
The President asked Mr.. Dole whether
he was going to make a motion.
Mr.. Dole said he was speaking on the
notion to reject. The remarks of the At
Orney General were misleading. At a
meeting of the committee it was decided
o recommend the House to postpone cleo
ion matters until next session. He in
ormed the committee distinctly that he
would bring in a bill to regulate voting
lie wanted this bill printed SO as the men,
'ers could read it and discuss it on its
merits. He expected opposition to it from
hat political element who do not wish
air voting The bill was drawn up on the
ines of the voting law of Canada. He
Wished to have the election law so fixed
hat no person could know how another
oted. The Opposition desired to have
ure and clean voting. This bill aims for
hat, without outside influences. He
ranted it discussed on its merits If this
wishes to vote against
i'll for fair voting, on it's first reading, let
hem do so. He felt that there were some
who did not want clean voting,
ut hoped there were none in the House
t was ridiculous to talk about the expense
f having it printed. No decent opposition
ould be made to the bill. The motion to
eject it was improper under the circum-
tances.
Mr.. Aholo said the object of the bill, as
fr. Dole had stated, was to have pure
ectiOns. That object may be accom-
lished or it may not. He would like to
ave the bill printed so as to read it through
lrefully Even admitting the time of the
ssembly was limited, they would have
he bill before them to study, and to make
improvements between this and the next
ession. They all wanted to have a man
Ote as he pleases. The law as it stands is
God enough, if they left out the gin and
last business. Much money and liquor
ere given out at the last election to in
ue.4ce voters. Some blamed the Govern
lent and some the Opposition. He did
OF think either party outdid the other
luch. Ii this was good law it was worth
lille for the members to stay here until
ley passed it.
Mr.. Hayselden supported the motion to
,ject the bill. 1t was only brought in to
i'll time, and was also brought in in an
nfair way. Mr. Dole, as a member of the
)mmittee, signed the report to refer all
ection bills to committee to report at
lie next session.
Mr. Dole denied doing so in toto.
Mr. HavSelden said the matter was dis