New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-02-28

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boo and called attention to the fact that rs RUE
the checks had been numbered. but between cno0N'
IL 10 and l. 147 lhere was stuD Whioh ""' nv -
numbered Mr. Kerr said that he occasioh"iS 'ooA /"
stub on which to put balance, In squarlhs "ooo"''
and the check would then he torn o. IElo was .ne 0
in this instance he thought, or the cnecK hnSu. "'
been bot;ed with ink and so torn out ana hoI uso''
- rI,d you ever made n payment before on the
Sl5O 900 loans Al think not. nave pSCn ~ caot
mo of tGs Pacific b INK years. pal per ceh'
interest. $1,000 1T, s -,
Mr. Conkng found an entry Of Sl7o3 as paIu lor u"
tercst on the $50 900. ana he figured that inc lnter"
on $4,000 for a year would DO @o'ooo "'
per cent Mr. Kerr explained that he had paid Interest
on the loans before and 80 knocked out 'he i'"So
approach IN that direction. Mr.. Conklins asked MI
Ke IN rack nj, memory to say FOR what purpose other
than for loan or to buy draft he had drawn checR
on the Pacific Bank in 1851 MI Kerr couid thi"A Vi
none. lie had frequently deposited cheeks Ioih MS
customers in his dstling business and they hau coho
back the next day marked mot goou anu 'ii'H nv
would draw his WIN check
Own Won say that You did not give the Pacific
Bank checks exceeding $4,000 in the year 1854 wen
we've pay interest on these loans - 5", H
checks for d much larger SUN. was SNlhE cue0A9 az
the time.
SAD FAILURE OF MEMORY
Mr. Kerr promised to hunt up how much money IN
checks he paid the Pacific Bank in 1881 ASIDE from
money on loans protested checks
Q-Can you tell the committee within so 600 how
Q-Was It not over $25O,OO0i A.-No, cir. .,,o
17fn Of jane. 1851 A.-At scribner's office.
Q-What took you there Al dOnl Iecoiieen M
0-Whom did you md there A-Mr. sharp ME-
O"Who else A-Mr. scribner and Mr.. Bright pos
GLOW long were you four at Mr.. scribner's office
Al don't remember-One, two or three hours per
What took you therel AIR. Sharp was going to
give me some money that he owed me-. - d,
- In.
Ale drew one to my order do,,,t l,rov Mr. Sharp
Mr. C6nkhng~iIo could but he won't.
O.-That was check FOR S26D,3OO A-les' SIT. ?
0-You wrote your name on II I Al think So
wrote name on II at the oce2no lRnE az an t rho
bank where deposited 1t, at the Pacihc BANK Oh '
'Q-Dd Mr. sharp draw any other checks in Mr. scriN
ners Office : A-Ies, think 80.
&-Q2@ %a a ,- Yes
G. what IL your best recollection as to the plumber
AopG YOU S S see what he did with them! Al don't
Do you remember anything that took place at
that Office except the writing ana signing oI tho'e cecAS
N0Yon can't recall whether you had any appointment
| on that day al Mr.. Scribuer's Office A.-NO, sir.
O.-Nor now long you were there ! Alt mlsoI n"'o
been one, two or three hours 49,. -o. said thoro,
Cant you repeat anything that was salu thcIei
ANNo. sir. Mr.. sharp may have said That nc "ah'ei
"dy iie ruth j.. thrn hat you remember absolutely
uofumg mat happened there except mat MI Jacob
sharp sisued several checks aud gave you one Al
Question repeated A-Yes, sir that is all remem-
. Lave you converscd since with anybody who was
there abOut what took place u'rrt Al Ho. IeH.,l
Der that have. There were hundreds OF Things 9''u
O. Where did you deposit That checkI An the Pa
Q -DG you 60 to the Broadway Bankl Ayes, sir
nrn Won got It certified did you mean to deposit
/ n IN the paric Eaukl A.-lc-, Sir
'lo cns SI' was nSs gooi az A."Y" SIR.
O. Did You and Mr.. sharp leave the bank together
, = Di I Won and Mr. Richmond leave togetherl A;
-ican't remember think left them all there ana
/ went mp to the PdcIic Bank alone. ~,
/ Q-Dd YOU execute any papers that DAY III MI
sciibuer'- Office Al don't rrmclnber. .,,
/ Odd Won suppose the Pacific Bank wouldn't take
chick .i.cd by Jacob sharp and drawn to youi uuri
uulc,, you had 1t certified A.-No' SIR they "ouIu
sui "a, matter of form you went there to have it
/ ''0' "l,rtorc ,ou iudor,ed Il Ayes, sir
q Yol went with Richmond aud with sharp A
Tvs Mr. Fo,hay tncrel Al don't remember
/ . We're there any papers drawn there except Inc
QNWa- Mr. snarp's check-oook therel Al don'
0B you deposit check for 100000 for Mr. SHARP
DID Mr., snarp draw any check FOR yoa except th'
Gl.OOU uu,i A.-lcs, at, one Tor rJu,OpO'
q 80 other check, A-NG o., ,r .,,o vou col
rom It Was Gu The i@h that you drew the check fol
/ 81 ha.-uul Al think q Was the day after
/ @ The stub says the l9th A.-lhen II must nave
'Tg" When did YOU first see Mr. Mooney at Mr.. scrU
/ u-t office Al don't remember, 49,. ,-,, T don.
G,rr M 'ite ma seen III II three fou
t.. and asked who he was. and found out tha he Wa
66''' now many time. after that dii you him A
] only Two or three tines
The vitnes, here asled permission to mako an eHpla
nation concerning Mr. Powelrs testimony. lie SAID tina
Mr. Powell had certified that he had met HIM the witness
,trr FIFTH Avenue Hotel with Nj sharp, Mr. Richmond
| and Mr. Fo.hay. Mr.. Powell had only seen MIN once
| there with Mr.. Fo,hay. lie had said ~ much to Mr
/ p,veu and Mr. Powell had Acknowledged that he wa
. correct
/ ID Where besides Mr.. Scubuers Office did you NEE
/ ,lt.. mem I'm ls-il Al don't think met them any
! where else
LOOKING OVER TIE BOOKS.
c,.r,, here arrived with Mr.. Kerrs private ledger
and other account books. Nj Couklng asked for The
c,snb,ok Mr. Kerr replied that he ala not understand
That the cash.book was wanted All that concerned him
self in the was entered IN the private ledger
O-Is Mr. Bliss your counsel I A.-les sir
Glow recently has ho been over Fucso oooAe' ~
| Three weeks ago.
Mr. Conkng then took hold Of the privateledSer Ih'
KEY Of another ledger Mr. Kerr had left at his office an
could not be opened The index OF one OF the ledger
| WAS missing III had some years to devote TO II
IInigt 20 through that ledger without an index ia
tho brief space ofhumau life an index WOMB
| Greatly facilitate matters" said Mr. Conklng. Mr.
| Kcrr's clerk was dispatched TO get some more DOCK
from Mr.. Kcrr's Office.
Mr. Couking said that no would like to 20 over III
hooks In the presence Of the Committee aud Mr. Kerr
but he didn't want anybody else present who would re
| mort lust what items they examined ana took memol
anda Of
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