New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-09-06
pApNELL ON THE SITUATION.
IMPORTANT GAINS FOR NATIONALIsTs.
.rs WELDED BY THE TORIES ON WHICH THEY
HAD rxPECrED TO DE VICTORIOUS.

cn,v,i,Af; 1886 NortA American Caok Ne"s W.
,rnox. Sent. 5.-l had the following inter-
= xut Mr.. Paruell on Saturday morning "'''
~. Of the debate on the address; 80.
c,n How do you regard tue presen' "'o""
r.cts,he National question: ~.,.,.,
in my judg ment the position OF the NA.,o""
crows in strength and interest in drea.
-, from day 10 day. 1t might have peoh suPPo'oN
,n.re would be something OF areacuon OF i~i.'"&
,n,.re.t in the matter after the general elecuo"
." =, -, an The desire for information In England
.,.,,,x oil the increase. and am persusoeo tns'
.,,.r hat time 10 requisite TO convince 'no
,.,.r.i Marty that Homo Rule 10 inevtaole ana 'n~'
Iv large and generous measuretcan sest'e inc que
,o ", lost the last election through want OF orsan'
80 and prepsrstion amongst the Liberals. lhis -
a, hsps RENE lied The Lioera party Is being ro
.u,s.d and ADEQUATE means will be taken 10 nstruo'
49, on. upou the mel rits Of the Irish question anu W
.ountsract the propaganda OF the so-caiied Arsn Ivy
.ns Patriotic Union" As an example OF tho cAoI'i"
an the other side during the late general eechoh' y
,n.utiou that fully TO- 100000 leaflets were a'.ouoN
~ ,,. conservatives, during that period, while on
.s. Liberal sde scarcely ono tenth OF 'no
numbrr was sent out All this VIII now 10 onsn.'u
,,sstines in support OF Irish autonomy Will DO hou "
avery part Of Great Britain. Special attention wiz ue
,.id 70 the composition and distribution OF su"Ap' NV
srature, and the enemy Will nnd tnomSe'e' INV
.ounternsrked AZ every point a.
Gill-What DO You think OF 'ne s'u"uon ~ ~
menti .~,,. q, IN.
Psrnell-I am much pleased with the results VI VII.
se,.iou 30 far At first the Tory newspapers
,ha no by either party except that
b tns bare voting Of supplies that they wodid reiu'o
IN take part In debates on tue auioe''
~. ,h., n discussion were attempted by u.s.
~ would be put down - obstruction WIN
the strong hand In fact many OF them nAou 'Ho
ton Of the session only fortnight va. 0o"
IDENTIFY predicted that the end OF the nrs' ~oeA ~. Wy
t.mber would see supply finished and the House pro-
~ noW
AVIAN heonn 70 take supply the whole time up 70 'ho
present having bsen occupied In perhaps 'no nos u
and fruitful series OF irish deDstes ever heHu
IN the House Of Commons. These debates have COM
pleiely altered tho tone OF inc 1ov.f"Wsm as,,s
They have wheeled round from Lord sanS
hnrv,s attitude Of refusal to sanction even the
idea OF interfering with judicial rents and LORD Ran
doph Churolirs Indictment to eviction so far as 10
nrouse as the Government did last night that without
waiting for the report OF their commission ON Irish leg
,aton in all its branches they should be ready for the
on.n,pr Of Parliament: in February. They have also
ven day for the discussion Of our Land DILL upon
which further important developments may be
expected.
Gn!-what will be the nature OF the Land DILL ana 90
you expect to get much support for i'll
Parne-I hope to introduce land Dill lor meet
ing the temporary necessities OF Inc comins
winter which will 20 far toward uniting
the different sections OF the Liberal party and whion
will place those Liberal Unioniss, who snail vote win
the Tories against IT, in false position. iehpisineu
its general purpot last night 1t will be ior
permitting leaseholders TO apply for judicial rent
will also provide for revision on the basis oi prices VI
all tudcal rents fixed previous the fall In prices Ihe
Court will also be given power to stay proceedings 10
eectments certain conditions win tue hcp OF stcn
a measure, / should hope that the stress OF
the winter might be overcome Irish supporters
of the Government will also ma IL oimcui'
to oppose such as this inasmnch as Wild tue
..cent,on of the members for Belfast Derry and Dub
lin University. they represent Agricultural cohsutueh-
ste. In fact consider the concession to me oy 'ne
Chancellor Of the Excbequer, yesterday OF fsciesi ior
the introduction and discussion of my DILL as the turn
ing point In the cricis, the Importance Oh "on "ou
be difficult TO exsggeratc.
Gl-Xhat do you think OF the prospect or COERCION
Parnell-Tbe prospect OF Coercion will depend upon
the amount OF agrsrau crime and disturbance ourns
the coming winter which again Will depend on tue ano
lords The complete change in the attitude OF the GOV
ernmen to which have alluded. will undoubtedly pro-
duee moral effect upon the landlords But 70" lar
thsy will proceed must depend upon the extent OF
further developments which anticipate during tne dis-
cushion OF my Land Oill.
Gill-Wnat OF the eycted tenants. II your
land bill be rejected
Parpe-I have 1t In cont emplaton to make an appeal
IN America for relief OF the evcted tenants My action
however will be guided entirely by the reception ao
corded TO my Land bill II there should coh'ihue
20 be the prospect OF numerous evicuohe'
i
70 the generosity OF America for support OF those un-
happy people The knowledge that they would be
supported would deter many landlords from proceeding
TO the extremity and would assist the tenants In
opauug fair aud also tend to prevent that des-
peration which produces crime.
Giil-How do you regard the appointment OF General
Buleri
Parnell-If the experienced resident magistrates who
know the country thoroughly aud skilled In the de-
eclon OF crime, are unable to put down agraran dis
turbances establish social order In Ireland II Is not
likely that q military officer. whose training las been
entirely different aud who has no knowledge OF the
country and experience whatever as detective
Will be successful in the task
Gnl-What have you TO say about Tory views on land
purchase
Psrnell-Ths Tory scheme would bo far more
risky for British taxpayers than that proposed by
Gladstone. The fact that Gladstone was about to set
tie the National question at the same time as the land
question would have the National sentiment,
and the Government would have had the
cooperation o, all classes in Ireland in
obtaining payments OF sll the obligations
Incurred under scheme. Proposals to settle the
land question only and to compel the Tories would
seek do, The tenants to become purchasers OF their
holdings cXravagant prices, by the reunion Of the
National sentiment the bringing OF the Irish tenants
into constant collision with the English Governmsnt IN
the collection OF the tax would destroy the strongest
security which the Brush taxpayer has for repayment
OF his loan. II must be remembered that Tory Gov
erument will be obliged TO give higher price 10 the
landlords than Liberal Government would and will
then pua heavier burden the irish tenant and make
aheavier demand on the British taxpayer.
Gni-what do you think Of the proposal to Issue
commission TO consider the development OF tho indus
trial resources OF the county
Parnell-This 10 the old oevce OF linking ireland with
English capital and 1t Is the greatest folly the Tory
Government propose 10 lend themselves to- They talk
spending millions In building hsrbors OF refuge low
srng the beds OF the great artera lines drainage pro-
noting iramway and railway schemes and fostering as
the phrase 49, tho industries Of Ireland. From every
point Of view, such expenditure would be absolutely
useless 1t would not succeed In turning the people
aside from their National purpose, and 1t would give
sstisfac!ion only to that class OF persons who i've
nh We eHa,,st uolfs al in fraI.