Morning journal and courier., 1886-09-15

Character of MT. Gunn-S. HarrI-
 son Wagner Commences His Tes-
 timony An Adjournment Until
 This Evening.
 Although the adjourned hearing in regard to the charges made against certain members of the Court of Common Council of 1884 and the Derby railroad in particular by J. B. Sargent was not appointed until o'clock, every seat in the large room in City Hall known as No. 10 was filled a half-hour pre- vious and when the time arrived for the hear ing to commence there was hardly standing room to be had. The crowd increased until the room was fairly packed.
 Promptly at o'clock the committee filed into the room from the registrars office and took their seats around the table. MT. Sar- gent was absent and his counsel, ex-Judge Blydenburgh, asked for few moments de- lay. MT. Sargent came in soon after and the hearing commenced.
 The first witness called was Jeremiah Breen. When his name was called by Mr. Blydenburgh he did not respond at first, but came in moment later. In reply to MT. Blydenburgh he testified as follows: ner. know where MT. Gum lived during the pendency of the Derby rail- road hearing and saw MT. Wagner come into Gunn's place in January, 1884. saw them talking, perhaps five or ten minutes. Did not hear their conversation. do not recol- lect that Mr. Gum said anything to me about his conversation with Wagner alter the latter went out. I don't Iecollect that he said anything about the Derby railroad matter. Don't know that have said that MT. Gum told me that MT. Wagner made him an offer.
 There was no cross examination.
 Henry F. Gaines was next called by Mir. BlJ denburgh. After little private conver- sation with Mr. Blydenburgh he was ex- cused.
 John c. Gallagher was called and testified as follows: I saw MT. Wagner at the meet ing of the Common Council when the Derby railroad matter was pending. recollect dis tinctly of seeing him there once and think saw him there two or three times. Cannot say distinctly that I saw him sending in notes to Councilmen. Think MT. Mills was in the anteroom with MT. Wagner on one evening.
 ssDo you recall any threats being made that the appropriations would not be passed until the Derby railroad matter was disposed ofa'
 Gallagher-As recollect it, some wanted the appropriations disposed of first and oth- CTS wanted the Derby railroad matter dis posed of first; but I don't recollect all the particulars in regard to it.
 ''Yes, have recollection of asking MT. Gum if he was voting at the time the Derby railroad matter was pending. I also recol- lect MT. Gum telling me that he had paired off with two or three members"
 ''Do you know anything about MT. Wagner threatening to have MT. Kennedy arrested if he did not stop his opposition to the Derby railroad?'
 q know there was some loud talk in the 1a4xr or16 MT Kennedy, but only know what was said by what I read in the papers,"
 To MT. Whitmore-Yes, the gentlemen of the Council who were opposed to the com promise used to come into my office nearly every day during the pendency of the ques- tion and talk over their line of action
 To MT. Blydenburgh-Yes, l heard one Councilman say he had been offered money for his vote.
 Mr. Tyler-Who was it9
 Mr. Gallagher-It was MT. Gum.
 Alderman Charles E. Graves was next called and testified in substance as follows: I was a member of the Council in 1884. I saw MT. Wagner in attendance during the pendency of the Derby railroad matter; Isaw him talking frequently with members; don't recolIect MT. Wagner saying anything to me but once, when he told me that lobbyists were necessary in legislation.
 s'Yes, think it generally understood
 
 ''I remember that there was some contro- versy about taking up the appropriations or going on with the Derby railroad matter"
 "No, did not hear at the time that any money had been offered to Councilmen, but afterward heard that money had been offered to MT. Gunn."
 MT. Tyler-You said, MT. Graves, that you understood ''Mr Wagner was there as a lob byist in the general sense of the term" What did you mean by thats
 Mr. Graves-Well, mean man who is present to influence legislation by crowding or dragooning or trying to get men to vote for measure against their convictions.
 To MT. Whitmore-I do not, of my own knowledge, know of money being offered to influence the vote of any Alderman or Coun-' cilman.
 When MT. Graves concluded his evidence recess of five minutes was ordered.
 After recess David R. O'Donnell, page of the Board of Councilmen, was called.
 MT. Tyler inquired of MT. Blydenburgh what he intended to prove by this witness.
 MT. Blydenburgh replied that he intended to prove that MT. Wagner sent in notes to the Councilmen frequently.
 We admit it, said MT. Tyler.
 That is all then, Mr. Blydenburgh replied We will rest for the present.
 Frank S. Andrew was the first witness called by the defense. In reply to MT. Tyler witness testified that he thought MT. Gunn's reputation for truth and veracity was bad and not on par with men generally.
 In reply to Mir. Kleiner he said he had heard several express similar opinions.
 Detective Brewer was next called and tes- tified that MT. Gunn's reputation for truth and veracity was bad.
 Have you ever had any trouble with Mr. Gunns inquired MT. Blydenburgh. No, only that pulled his house once John W. Bishop was next called and testi- fled that MT. Gunn's reputation was bad. In reply to Mir. Blydenburgh witness said that he had had business transactions with MT. Gum and he would not take his word | for anything. "No, he did not pay me what 1 he owed me-"
 Frank c. Bushnell was called and said he knaW that MT. Gunn had not s,nt any rannta-