Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1886-06-08
HONE RULE DEFEATED.
n Majority Of Thirty Against the second
Reading Of the BiIi-Great Excitement
I'm the House Mr.. ParneIfs Able
SDeeea.

I'm the House Mr.. Parneifs Able
Speeca.
The division on the second reading of the
home rule bill in the house of commons last
Right resulted in the defeat of the measure by
a vote of 3iI To 311. a majority OF 30 against. .
The division was attended by tremendous ex-
citement. When 1t became known that the
government was defeated the conservatives,
led by Lord Randolph Churchill, cheered lusti-
w. Then the ParnelIites called for cheers for
the "grand old man. which were given with
true Irish vigor, followed by groans for Cham
lerlain and cries OF TRAITOR and Judas Isca-
Iiot." The Irish members twice challenged the
vote. When order was restored Mr.. Gladstone
lose. white and trembling, and moved to adj
iOurn until Thursday. This motion was car
lied. IL is understood the cabinet VIII be
summoned To meet at noon to-day to decide
upon the question of dissolution.
~ When Gladstone entered the house of COM
mons at 4:55 yesterday afternoon, wearing a
white on the lapel of his coat, he was greet
ed with cheers. The house was crowded 10 its
utmost capacity.
Mr. Gladstone repI sing 10 a question, said the
government Was unable To promise TO incorpo-
rate measures for home rule government IN
England, Wales and scotland in the revised
Irish home rule bill when IL was brought in
during the autumn sessions in the event of its
passing the second reading
Mr.. Goscheu, in resuminy the debate on the
home rule bill. said that if the bill passed a ire
mendous struggle would be inaugurated by the
Catholic clergy of Ireland for the control OF edu
cation in that country Regarding the question
whether the DILL would prove a final settlement
Of the Irish dffic atty or lead To eventual sepa-
ration Mr. Cioschsn said he did not think it
would prove a finaiity. IL has been shown that
the British parliament was not inclined To- con-
slider Mr.. ParEell its dictator. During the re-
cess" said Mr. Goschen, Il heard One-a min
lister of the crown-siy he was certain that Mr.
x,arncll would be dictator in the coming session.
! think, however, that Mr. Parnelfs followers
will now acknowledge that there are limits
whereat they see many who are prepared To
grant some legislative autonomy to Ireland
would draw the line" Mr.. Goschen said it
would be impossible to include Ulster in a Dub
lin parliament
MR. PARNELLs SPEECH.
Mr.. Parnen followed Mr.. Goschen. He said:
"Mr Goschen sought, think very unfairly, to
cast "a lurid light ON the situation by his allu-
sion 10 those unhappy outraSes in Kerry. /
JolH IN the EXPRESSION Vi cou'eAnpt Ior those
cowardly, diSgraceiul practices join him 10
the fullest extent But neither DO i say that
because eviciiOns have been more numerous in
Merry than III ali the rest of Munster put
together during months past that they consti-
tute excuse iOr these OGtrages or any excuse
Tor outrage, though IL may supply us with The
cause of then- but when denounce outrageS
i denounce them III every part OF Ireland !,
whether in Ulster or in Kerry. Mr.. Goschen is
certainly free from repToaeh. He has not
Joined Lord Randolph Churchill and Mr.
Cham berlain in the ,se of reckless language
with reference to the affairs OF country
which is not their country, inference
for which they have not tile paltry excuse
that it Is any business OF theirs, or that they
had any Interest there. Aiy colleagues
have in times past been reproached because
they have no; been careful in looking
at the effect of their language, and the doc
trine of indirect responsibility has been
ployed against them 10 the extent OF imprison-
meni. II that doctrine OF indirect responsible
ity were employed against Lord Randolph
Churchill or Mr.. Chamberlain Lord Randolph
Cnurc!aiil might plead the excuse That ne be-
lieSes in nothing and nobody but himself, SO
that he could not pect any great i'm por lance
10 be attached tn his declarations, while MIR.
Chamberlain might have said, and sand very
truly, that lie absolutely ignorant oil all the
circumstances of lreiand-nis celebrated pro-
Jected visit there last autumn not having come
oil. lie really could not know what would be the
ELECT OF his language. Continuing, Mr.. PaTncll
said: But while LORD K1EGO!ph Churchill and
Mr. GUschen say outrIges must be put end
To By re>urtIns To the coercion which he and
his friends have been using for the last eighty
SIN Years, we would say, with Mr.. Gladstone
Try the effect Oi seii-sovernment, then, ii Kerry
men resort 10 outrage. they Will very soon find
that the rest OF Ireland viii put stop 10 it.
Air. tIosch.n spoke about the sovereignty of
parliament. Ne how perfectly we'll W;, have.
always known since this bill was introduced
the difference between "a coordinate and IL sub
ordinate parliament We know that the iegis-
IatUTc which the premier wishes 10 constitute
l. a subordinate parliament, not like GTaItan's
which Was cOequil, arising vi The same con-
sutHtioh anu III Inc same manner is this parl
meHt gwen by the sovereign We understand
THIS perfectly well aud We undoubtedly have pre-
ieTTed, as i stated on the Introduction of the
blil as showing that could not accept this as
n final settlement OF the question-we should
have preferred the restitution of the Grattan
Parliament Ii would have been more i'm
accord WITH the sentiments OF the Irish people
anu sentiment goes a long way with people like
the lriSh.'
Mr. Parnell continued: II leave the question
oil the sovereignty of parliament TO go on to
another point which Mr.. Goschen touched
upon. HE very fairly tOd Is his fears as TO tine
ABUSE OF power by the Irish priesthood regard
ing education. lie has not followed the exam
Pie of other nAustrIous speakers INDUCING in
exIFaEagant language regarding this Catholic
Protestant question: L may say l am quite
sure his apprehension is genuine, so far il goes
anU thi.t he does not desire To do anything in
Al cord IN
deed, WILL no; say that A Protestant myself i'll
hid not had abundant experience OF the feeling
IN Ireland might perhaps he inclined to share
his ies.l But, as it is, certainly have not sucn
fear