The Portland daily press., 1886-04-10
IRELAND's PARLIAMENT.
Great Excitement Created by Clad
stones Scheme.
Lively Debate Upon the Measure in
the House of Commons.
stone and Chamberlain.
How the Measure is Regarded by
London Papers.
IRELAND's PARLIAMENT.
stone and Chamberlain.

LONDON, April 9.-At the opening of the
House of Commons today, several Conserva-
tives presented petitions against granting
separate Parliament to Ireland. Mr.. Glad
stone entered the House at $40, and he was
greeted with loud and hearty cheers by the
Parnellite and Radical members.
Mr. Gladstone, although suffering from IA
tigpe caused by his eXertions in the House
of Commons last evening Is enjoying good
health today.
MT. Gladstone said that he hoped to finish
on the Home Rule bill on Monday next He
announced that the budget would be intro
duced on Tuesday, and the Irish land bill on
Thursday, the latter being necessary sup
plement to the Home Rule bill. He propos-
ed that he House adjourn for weeks holl-
day at Easter.
The House was again crowded tonight.
Among the visitors were the Dukes OF Con,
naught and Cambridge, and many peers and
ambassadors. Although the large attend
ance tonight showed the intense interest
that is taken in the progress OF the debate
on the Irish bill, public excitement over the
subject has somewhat abated.
Gladstone was heartily cheered when ne
arose to intimate that the debate would be
continued until Monday, when he hoped to
close the discussion.
Chamberlain was received with faInt
cheers upon rising to resume the debate. He He
government he told Mr.. Gladstone he did
not think it possible to create separate
Parliament at Dublin as demanded by the
Irish members, with the condition OF tull
guarantees for the security OF the empire,
and Gladstone informed. him all he wanted
was an independent inquiry into the subject
of the government of ireland. He wrote to
Gladstone on Jan. 3, in which he explained
that he could not consent to the eStaDllsn-
ment of a separate Parliament In Dublin,
hot MISUNDERSTANDING that hp
consented to join the Cabinet He had pre-
sumed from what Gladstone told him that
the whole Cabinet would proceed, step by
step, in the consultation to build scheme OF
Home Rule not involving separation. IL
was not until March 18th that Gladstone
startled the Cabinet by bringing forward a
scheme involving an issue Of 9150,0O00OO in
consols.
At this point Gladstone, interrupting, re-
| minded Chamberlain that he had not receiv-
| ed the permission of the government TO re-
veal the land proposals.
Chamberlain, continuing, said that he
would reserve his explanation. lie did NOT
resign on the land proposals alone, but on
| the whole scheme. He asked if he might be
| permitted to read his letter to Gladstone.
Here an angry discussion took place be
| tween Chamberlain and Gladstone. The
| latter declared that he could not beyond the
| limits of the permission given him Cham
| berlain), who thereupOn complained that hi
| GXDldQdJlOu WOulu Ut ldIIlt
| He would never be able to justify his con
| duct to the House and country. He tool
| four principal objections to the scheme fol
| the government Of Ireland. The first was II
| the proposal to exclude Irish members from
| Westminster; second, to renOuncing the eX
| to the surrender of appointments of judges
| and magistrates, and, finally, to the supreme
| authority given the Irish parliament in mat
ters not specially excluded from its author
ity. The proposal. appeared utterly lncon
| sistent with the principle that taxation anC
representation should go together He OBJ
| jected to any scheme that laid upon the Brit
| ish taxpayer this tremendous liability anC
| risk. Such project could only be looked
upon as a bribe to modify the hostility o.
ed that Ireland was being asked to. occupy,
degrading position, which the people woul6
| never accept. The scheme, if accepted
would be accepted grudingly, and In tht
course of two years there would be, an az
tempt to revise or alter it. For himself
rather than face the future agitation which
would be certain to prevail between the two
countries, rather than face the distractions
| and foreign complications which would arise
| by having quasi independent government
| he would vote for separation, pure anC
simple. loud cheers)
| Chamberlain's speech was received will
| marked coldneSS.
Healy taunted Chamberlain with using hi
five years OF experience to attack ministe
| of fifty years experience.
| The Marquis of Harrington rose to speal
| at 10 a. m. and was loudly cheered. 1t re
| quired, he said, no prolonged examination q
the scheme submitted last night with somuel
eloquence to say that the project for estab
nshlng future relation between this coun
try and Ireland was one which it would b,
absolutely impossible for them to make them
| selves parties to. (Cheers.) The distinguish
' Ing feature OF the act of union was the crea