New-York tribune., 1886-08-25
nARNELL AND GLADSTONE.
,orp UP IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.

" w tho debate ON the address in reply 10 inc
U.s.. speech He said he believed that " .h0
had been given three more weeks 70 c"ns'oo'
Nm. Rue bill, the Tories would not now De seen
INA, on the Treasury bench The lrlsh party """
msse 70 be satisfied with the present position.
every &C the Liberal party had declared IN favor
.h autonomy. The Tories had only prontsd
ei "~ o..rv Liberal hesitation. After the present
r,s,t s'" had exhibited themselves for year or so
'V's ,,olo for God and man attempt to govern
rrNSI Iibersl hesitation would vanish The Ir1sn
,arv reason to have patience. Theirs was
r ,- ,,n;ng cause If the Government speeches were
.ua.d 70 exasperats ireland. they would iau 10
g. that effect. At the same time there wouio p0
-.o.;derable difficulty with the rent question:. ne
.srrs,ted that the Government had not appreca.eu
a.. s,ayity of the occasion. The Royal Commission
"a no anable to report until the pinch OF winter
~. over IL the system of dual ownership was 10
=. replaced BY system of single ownership there
-oold be risk to the English taxpayer. lie nau
,y agreed TO the ador ton OF the Land Purchase Ac
"I SSIss5 because he then believed that settlement
oftae National question would come concurreh'is anu
s.couse the Conservative Government had sent to
,rsland Lord Carnsrvon, who was an avowed hopo
- Nor the conditions were entirely changed
A. Cladstone's purchase scheme would have safely
o,,lad the land question Every penny OF the
.,,;,.o;,ol aid interest could tave been collected
sh,ouah the customs and excise duties. and the
money would have been safe as the Bank OF Eng
land If the Government thought OF solving the r'sn
ouoston without settling the land question. 1t woulu
tnd that it had got hold of the wrong end OF thorny
stick ICheers The Government must reduce rents
either at the expense of the Ian ilords OF a' ''0
expense of the British taxpayer
Mr. Parpell denounced the dishonesty OF attempting
% stmua,, Irish industries by liberal doses-of English
lr ali
fsed 70 sell tber National birthright tor the mess
,,,oce which the Government offered. Parnellite
A,ars | The way TO de elop the resources OF Ireland
80 % allow the Irish to develop them themselves
fCb.ers | They did not want an influx OF capital
tor tbere was penty of that in Ireland They wanted
to he allowed to help themselves. lConservauVe
.heers and laugLterl The Government allowed the
Irish 70 build harbOrs drain land and generally
develon the resources OF the country, when they
MD not allow the Irish TO reap the proht. lCheers
rbe Irish party repudated the proposed fraud on the
British taxpayer. Let the Government which
obtained os6ce by misrepresentation lhe would not
saw lyiDg) pursue their own way and estaolsh
xbole.ale system of bribery and corruption Cheers
Mr. Parne here read his amendment to the address,
and proceeded He saio that the judicial rents we're
,.o high He accused the Government of encouraging
tandlords 10 evct by the Wholesale, knowing that
srarian crime always follows evictions. Why dld
tenants sumittng to moonlight RAIDS refuse to give
evidencel Because taking Kerry as an example. the
,eran,s kneg that but for moonlight raids Lord
Kenmare wOnd not leave a roof over the heads OF
his tenants. The Irish would be patient, but the
indictments held out by landlords who tried to exact
imposshle rents would bear fruit and might produce
e,asneration. The landlords would camor tor
con and force tie Government to adopt coerclve
measures He believed that coercion would come.
ON
ton at criminals bat would attack political opponents
Tfbe might offer suggestion he would urge that
iudicial tenantcies should be liked Al three years
instead of fifteen years and that there should De
revision of reats in accordance with prevailing prices
In conclusion he said: The Irish will submit
10 a Government not their own. Irish cheers. The
question OF an aut0no government VIII always
be fixed in the Hearts Of the Irish people Pro-
lOnged cheers
D,vli Plunket. First Commissioner OF )rks denied
that the iudci were too nigh he SAID hat thsy
were xed III period aud ,he basis, OF falling prices
The tendency of the last eighteen months Dad beeh III
tie direction of a decrease u the number OF evct"s
The policy OF the Cover ment was to extend tie ACT OF
1881 and its success largely depended uron the restore
ton o, social order concluded by sa ING that the
r,s.,osn,h taken upon him ,ef by Mr.. Paruell I,
nigh was an awful and teIrlrle one. lConsrvatv W.
cheers.
Mr. Gladstone was loudly cheered. He began by acs
easiur the Government of having taken an unusual
course in going outside OF the speech from ihe
,.rone lie did not remember occasion in fifty years
Mnen tie thought IL po!tc TO The adj
dresses a. opportunity FOR explain It's policy te
yOnd the OF the speech He thought the Govern
mrnt should the main lines OF tneir
urts until the themselves coul be presented.
But he unwilling to complain OF the action OF tie
Government. He ntmated that he would take part
Ia the division MI. Paruelrs amendment because be
deprecated any attempt 10 force definite, prom ture
expression OF OuiDoD the poll y which the Govern
ment fore>hadOwed. Their policy however, wac open
10 i,maGks II bore upon five different points y,
the issue oroyal commissions qu stous of public wOrks,
land purchase. inquiry into land rents and the sub
ect of local government He believed that Govern
meuis policy was not a sober one but was emnently
COMPLEX aud difficult
At this poiut Lord Ran lolph Churchill to point
Of order urging that there Only Mr.. Parnel's
amen imcnt under discuss"n Speaker Peel soncurred
aud reminded Mr.. Gladstone that lie could rcvew TIE
Governments pJlicy generally after the specific end
men had been dis Osei Of. Mr. Gladstone teaed for
indulgence aud asked the House TO insist upon
strict enforcement of the rnle. Lord Rando h Churchill
said he was willing to grant every Indulgence, but lie
oii not wish the debate 10 he unduly prolonged.
MI Gladstone described the policy of the Government
a. an absolute diversion OF the policy Of the late Govern
meut Instead al giving Ireland sclf-soveI the
Present Government proposed that England should gov
cru Ireland TO greater extent than at I'll present
time. Tue late Government had proposed that the
rents and revenues of Ireland be as security
the land purchase loans lie only boped that the critics
Sho condemned that security would equally vieant
concerning the security now proposed The Government
he continued evidently intended adopt a large scheme
OF land purchase. Was the tenant lie asked TO he
tfes.d uOn The basi OF the ZEAL rontable value o. tie
property and The landlord upon the OF ths iuIical
iehtf Aud was the st'to 10 mske up the dinereucel
ne naintanod that there was power within Parlis-
mept ever " carry iuto effect such fatal proposition
iChcers
lie Aai been tainted with having become the leader
~ the lfsh Natonsllsts If that a charge aeaius
,m but he Was delighted nj having or part
neevo IN becoming a leader follower, he did not
~eien Ia any moyem ut tending TO make IA
20 .. TIE people or Ireland aud TO eneOurase them
~ ior realization OF their just rights. lCheers
poDcy ANNOUNCED Oud e
watch late Government ali wen