New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-05-11
STRENGTH OF MR. CHAMBERLAINS OPPO-
SITION.
INFLUENCE OF HIS IRISH DEMANDS UPON Mr..
GLADsTONE-NoT YET sATIsFIED-A STATE
MENT on THE HOME RULE MEASURE
by MR.. LABOUCHERE.


MENT on THE HOME RULE MEASURE
BY Mr.. LABOUCHERE.
(Br CABLE TO THE rRIHrNRI
Copyrfch; 1885 North American Gable Nrrs Co,
LONDON, May 1O.-THE TRIBUNE representative
Is authorized to state that the notifications by Mr..
Gladstone of that vital principle of the Home Rule
bill which excluded the Irish members from West
minister in no way affects Mr. Chamberlain's dis
tinctly expressed declaration that the Protestants
of Ulster are entitled to demand independence in
the control of their local affairs upon any statutory
Parliament which may be established at Dublin
under the supremacy of the Imperial Parliament
at Westminster. For the present, Mr.. Chamberlain
declines to make any new statement of his views
The fact that Mr.. Gladstone's notifications are due
to the firmness, mainly of Mr.. Chamberlain and
his friends gives peculiar in terest to the following
statement made by Mr.. Labouchere of the position
IN which that acknowledged Radical leader con-
siders the prospects of the Irish measures:
As Mr. Gladstone's Home Rule bill stands at present
the Irish people be taxed by the English Parliament
without being represented that Is to say they are put IN
the position Of the American coloniss under the stamp
of 1863 Mr. Gladstone put them into this position
because he the impression that the only way
in which he could induce the Imperial Parliament to
pass Home Rulo bill to arrange It's terms thaI
no Irish members should sit at Westminster lie mas
found however, the Radicals who constitute the ma
ory OF his supporters feel that TO allow this would be
unfair toward Ireland aud a considerable number Of
them have insisted a condition Of their voting
for a second reading of the bill that the Irish should
send representatives. l do not understand why tho
should object this because it makes their posi-
tion think. better As Things stood before they
were pot to be represented framing the legislation
under which they must be taxed
The matter is LETT in tholr own hands II they
like to be represented at Westminster they will send
uhnrl bere. N hay 10 uot
they will not send members here. In other words tho
English Radicals have declined to confirm the arrange
ments by Mr. Gladstone AMI accepted By the irish
Parliamentary party. and have Insisted upon giving
Ireland better terms. This concession maie to tho
Radicals by Mr.. Gladstone relieves him from the
certain defeat which Otherwise awaited his demand for
n second reading Of his measure. It Is n question OF
figures. The men who voting with Mr. Chamber
lain in sufficient numbers to prevent tho second
reading of the BILL with the aid OF The Wings who FOLLOW
ord harrington II was impossible for Mr.. Gladstone
to make any terms with the Wings for they arc against
the very principle OF Home Rule. 1t was necessary,
therefore, 10 make terms with the Radicals.
Remember that Mr Chamberlain has "A large following
in the country, should be forced TO dissolution
either By tho bill breaking Down after the second reading
in committee by the action OF the House OF Lords 1t
Will be necessary that the Radicals should present q
united front order have hope for victory over
the combined Wings and Conservatives Ii Is estimated
that in the event OF general election the Irish would
give least twenty-five seats now held by tho Con-
servalives Great Britain. hut On the other hand we
should lose q considerable number OF seats
now held By the wings, because should we run
Ra icas in opposition to them the |ohser'a-
tives wonld be withdrawn and tho Wings
woalG get in by the aid OF ,ervatve votes If tho
b go through the House OF Commons and Il sent up TO
the Lords thirty Lors. exclusive OF those holding
an exclusive position under the Government, would
vote In this the bill would be brought IN
again by Mr.. Gladstone al autumn session. and tho
tssue then wod not only be between Britain and
Ireland but between tho majority In Great Britain ana
the House Of Lords in which case humbly trust that
the utter absurdity OF allowing n Tory body OF hered
itary legislators to exercise a veto upon the Will OF tho
people would become manifest to all.
p0N''O H. LABOUCHERE-