Los Angeles daily herald., 1886-03-03

| thought il well to avoid that plan !?
Witness first heard that Hall had cir
culated reports about this matter the day
before the investigation; requested Brod-
rick to 90 to Hall to ascertain II he
had circulated such reports; he went to
Hall and Hall gave him the paper, a
copy of which has been filed here.
| Halls denial. Told Brodrick that was
not what wanted: said was surprised
at Hall; but he said it was too late to go
back and have it changed; Hall had ac-
knowledged to him that he had agreed
to pay me.
Witness here filed the original docu-
mept. which he said was in Brodrick's
handwriting, as Exhibit B. /"
| had talk with w. G. Furrey before
he went East; Hall said Fnrrey was
going after the iron and cell work;
told him did not think Furrey could
do the cell work; he said he GOULD get it
shipped from the East and put together
here; he wanted me to assist him. before
Furrey returned from the East Hoicomb
was in my office and said he would make
a deposit of money to be drawn by me
after the cell work was accepted if |
would a. sist them; / thought it over
and made up my mind that there was a
combination between Hall, Holcomb and
Furrey which was to the disadvantage
| Of the taxpayers of the county and that
| would not do 1t. Met Hall while on
nv way home the following evening and
he said, "Where have you been all day?
Holeomb has been twice to your office
and could not find YOU" Told him
did not think Holcomb wanted to do
| any business; Hall answered: Eyes, he
does; and If he does j ought to have
O part of it. If he don't put it up now
he will on the return Of Furrey, and
| Furrey will put up bis part.
| Mr.. Whitehall wanted some OF 1t
himself, did hef
| Witness-Yes, he wanted some OF the
"chicken pie" After Furrey came homo
| | said TO him, 81 don't believe your man
| tHolcomb) will get the work" The rea-
son that | did not think 80 was that
Hall had told me Baker and Britton
had made a combination, and from per-
sonal experience | believed they would
bid very low; had another talk with
Furrey ON the 25th of February; he said
he had twice been to my office to see me.
| never told Hall, referring to the
county officers, that they were all in
| it," What told him was that Holcomb
must make deposit il | worked for
him. l I'm a pretty good judge OF hui
man nature, and l would not work for
that man without some certainty. The
testimony of Hall and Holcomb about
the talk in my office, and the payment of
$780, was not true. No such conversa-
ton took place. No money was paid me
or any other person. No money could
have been paid without my knoledge.
Bouton was not there when the alleged
conversation occurred. There was no
conversation in my presence about
money. | was hunting very close for
my fee. Hall admitted to Brodrick that
| he had lied to me. There was no one
| interested but myself.
The only conversation that had with
| Supervisor Kinds amounted to this:
told him that if he thought upon ex-
animation that the eounty's interests
would be best subserved by Halls plans,
| | would be glad to have him vote for
them. He never gave me any satisfac.
aon and l did not know how single
member of the Board would vote. l
| talked to many parties on the subject in
| the same vein, particularly to my TREND
| Spurgeon of Santa Ana, and asked him
to say as much to Supervisor Ross.
Furrey came to my office ON the 25th
of February, since the investigation
commenced. He said he had no hand
in getting up the investigation. | was
not the man they were after. They
were after General Bouton ''only;" he
said, 81 think it will all be made right.
| We want to make some money, and we
might as well make it out of Holcomb
as out Of anybody" | said that no
money would pay me for the injustice
| that had been done me. This CONVEX
saton was in the presence of Judge
Morgan.
Bouton had no other connection with
tne matter except as my friend; he had
no monetary interest in it; l couldn't
| afford to divide 500 among the county
officials and Bouton too. Ilaughter.) He
at first said he had friends among the
other architects, but after it came down to
Edelman and Hall he worked for Hail..
Mr.. Holton here read card which he
said had been passed to him from the
audience. The card said: ASK A. N.
Hamilton what Mott said to him yestcr-
day about this jail plan matter" Mr..
Mott was questioned and said he came
down on the car with Hamilton and had
| Joking conversation with him. Mr..
Hamilton was afterwards put on the
stand and his testimony on this point
appears elsewhere.
JAMES THoMPsoNs,
County Jailor, was sworn, and when
asked about his residence, stated that it
was in the county jail. Remembered
seeing Mott and Holcomb in the jail.
In answer to Mott, how things were
going, he replied that Edelman's plans
we're done up because they were with
out specifications and made in San Fran
cisco, while he preferred those made
here. He liked Halls plans best, but
they were lacking in some respects.
Had examined Halls plans. Thought
Holcomb's cells could be introduced into
Halls plans.
| s. IL. MOTT
Sworn. In answer to the question what
he knew about the order from Hall, he
replied that he saw it and thought it
would be acceptable. Hall said he
wanted the money to invest in granite
quarry. His partner, Perry, thought if
they took the order they ought to have
proper security.
w. j. Brodrick was called to testify,
but excused till afternoon, on account of
illness.
GEN. f. BoUT0N
Was the next witness. He testified that
he knew all the parties mentioned in the
matter. He had talk with Mr.. Mott
before Halls Jail plans were adopted.
He mentioned Mr.. Halls name and said
he was a friend of his, and he Mott
suggested that | assist Hall. | told
Mott that had other architect friends
and did not care to get mixed up in
| the matter In speaking to Hall in re-
| gard to the plans, he said that Edle.
mans plans were not h own, and that
he went to San Francisco and secured
them frem man named Corlett.
| Knowing this to be a local affair, | was
willing to assist Hall in the matter.
have learned since that Hall was mis-.
taken about Edleman's plans. This con-
versation with MIR. Mott took place some
| time before the jail plans were adopted.
| have always been on friendly terms
| with Mr.. Mott. He had favored me
many times, and | was glad to serve him
| upon this occasion. No fee was ever
| offered me, aud no sum OF money men
toned. / never received any money
and none was promised. | never dis
bursed dime in connection with this
| affair. | was asked to assist Hall.
| think | spoke to Oscar Macy about the
| excavations for tho new jail.
In answer to a question by Mr.. vii.
liams, no said: "Nou have heard of a
converse ton alleged to have taken place
between yourself, Mr.. Mott and Hall in
relation 10 money matters connected
with the plans; what have you to say on
| that subject" he said: 81 never had OF
| heard such conversation or anything
of the kind; | never heard of il until ii
was mentioned in this room. | was com
pletely surprised and startled, and can't
imagine how the ridiculous story ever