The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-07-17

/ Richardson, Kaai, Kauai, Paehaole. The
minutes were read in Hawaiian and Eng
lish and approved
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson asked leave
OF absence for one or two hours. As he was
summoned 10 wait upon His Majesty the
King. Granted.
REPORT OF COMMITTEE on COMMERCE.
Mr.. Llikilani presented report from
the Committee on Commerce on a
bill TO reamend class ?, section 4,
chapter Is, of the Session Laws Of
1878, requiring postage to be paid on
newspapers, pamphlets, etc, published in
the Kingdom. The committee, after care
ful consideration, came to the conclusion if
this bill were passed those persons inter
ested i'll the publication OF newspapers
would increase the price of subscription
and charge more for advertisements. 1t
would really result in a tax on the people,
and that sort of legislation is unadYisable.
The committee therefore recommend that
the bill be indefinitely postponed.
The report of the committee was laid on
the table.
THE BOARD OF GENEALoGY
Mr.. Kaulukou moved that the Joint
resolution for the relief OF the Board OF
Genealogy be read third time to-day
The motion was agreed TO.
HAND-AND-GLOVE
Mr.. Nahale presented a resolution that
the Sergeant-atA rms be instructed to pro-
vide gloves for the members of the COM
mittee and other members who are going
to MOlokai tonight, SO that their hands
will be properly protected from the cold.
Mr.. Kaai moved the resolution be III
definitely postponed.
Mr.. Dickey said the House had spent
$29, 900 already for expenses, and they
should be very careful.
Hon. Mr.. Kaae hoped the resolution
would be indefinitely postponed. He
would present Mr.. Nahale with pair of
gloves if he needed them
Mr.. Thurston moved as an amendment
that the Sergeant-at-Arms be instructed to |
seal each member in an air-tight bag, and |
let him out when the steamer stops, goin! !
and coming.
Mr.. kaunamanO thought the object Of !
the resolution was to protect the members |
if the lepers wished to shake hands with |
them. There was no need for the mem
bers to expose themselves
Mr. Nahale asked leave to withdraw the |
resolution, but Mr.. Brown objected
The resolution was then indefinitely
postponed.
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
Mr.. Dickey read first time proposed
to article 20 OF the Constitu-
ton.
Mr.. Richardson rose to point of order.
The amendment under rule 40 was out of
order, as law on the same subject had
been indefinitely postponed earlier in the
session, and the matter could not be
brought up again.
The President ruled the amendment out
Of order, as ittended to the same object as
the bill indefinitely postponed.
Mr.. Thurston thought the amendment
The first bin WAC to am end the
Civil Code. while this was to amend the
Constitution. A bill to change the sitting
nf tho Gnnrt from T.ahnina to Nv:r-i-
indefinitely postponed, but afterwards
brought up in a different form.
Mr. Dickey appealed from the ruling OF
The Chair. 1t was one thing 10 indefinitely
postpone law and another to indefinitely
postpone an amendment to the Constitu-1
ton.
His Excellency Mr. Dare rose to point
Of order. An appeal from the Chair was
not debatable.
Mr.. Dickey thought he was right. He
argued that the ruling would be to estab-
lish precedent that might involve grave
Mr.. Castle thought that the question was
whether the two bills were identical. A
standard principle of CONSTRUCTION in par
liamentary practice was that where the
liberty of the subject was involved, the
benefit of any doubt was to be given to the
rights of the subject. In the matter in
question, he contended that the liberty of
the subject and the privileges of the Legis-
lature were involved, and the two bills
not being identical in substance, there was
a reasonable doubt on the side of the lib
erty of the subject, and the amendment
should be admitted.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said the ques-
ton was, shall the ruling of the chair he
sustained. Rule 40 says that when
question shall be indefinitely postponed it
cannot be acted upon again during the ses-
sion" 1t does not say a bill, resolution or
Act, but a question. The question involved
is whether the bill indefinitely postponed
and the amendment now offered are iden-
teal on the subject of the eligibility of men
for Representatives. The first bill requires
that the statute law be amended, and this
proposed amendment provides that the
law of that statute be
amended. The House has the authority
to make rules, and has adopted a rule that
when once question is indefinitely post
poned it cannot be brought up again. He
the ruling of the chair, which he
thought correct.
On the question being put the ruling of
the chair was sustained by a vote of 81 to
4.
PETITION.
Mr.. Kaai presented a petition, on sus
pension of the rules, from one Mali living
at Kipahulu, praying that 81 900 damages
be paid him for q piece of land the Govern
ment took from him and sold. Referred
to Judiciary Committee.
APPROPRIATION ASKED FOR.
Mr.. Amara presented a resolution that
$500 be appropriated for erecting land
marks to guide vessels in entering the har-
Dor of Kapuuiki, district of Waialua. Laid
on the table,