New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-07-16
THE PRESIDENTS MANIFESTO
VIEWS OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

VIEWS OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
GOOD FOR MuGwUMPs TO TALK ABOUT But VI Nv
PRACTICAL VALUE.
lBY TELEGRAPH THE TRIBUNE
WASHINGTON, July 15.-Not many Demo
oora,,c could be found to-day VINO hau n
go, presid.ut Cleyeland's latest manifesto on Civii
s.rviee Reform but great many Of them decnneu "
sxrress their opinion OF IT. with mucn iroo
dom. AZ rule Democrats who nave Ov ''S
already renominated regard the matter W." W..
a degree of philosophc eQuanimity wmen " NV
,hared by men who the convention ordeai yc' "
undergo Forexample, Mr.. Holman will not 10 'iA0i'
TO rise to question of priviiege-as M' heeo sukS
he might DO with great propriety-because DemoeiaNs
offcehoders did exactly the things recently ~ 20
Homan's District that the President condemns WIN
sparing severity. Mt Holman has been renon'na'e
aud he will not need the active aid OF the on'0eno
again until November. From number OF |o"e On
TRIBUNE correspondent obtained brief oon'He'
the manifesto.
Mr.. Bliss OF Brooklyn, said: ,,.ra
The rnes the President lays down are not me now
ocehcders had not controlled primaries ana ade his
tions his INTEREST," Has ne iofso''oH "A
nomination possible at Chicago
Colonel Oates. OF Alabama. remarRed' ,euo,c.
Tn, c.hol,er cannot divest himself OF tne S not
OF position when he takes any Pa uch practically
& omIa Grover Cleveland be now but ror ,ne
element In politics WHOSE
Colonel Morrman. of New-Yorkexpressed the opinion
that the manifesto was good thing ior Tue no"'
napers 10 publish matter OF news
c,,ons, Matso1 Of Indiana. SAID
Vii am mighty glad II did not come out until after
NV Convention No man can succeed IN ponueaI ire
wnoa active assistance and influence OF co f not
secure a reconciliation without their hesp' anu ne
knows .o,,,
on. I don't care blank. Ny convention has been
held, and am ali right
Tin" Campbell said: .
It's all right 1t is only repetition OF iaye.s Civa
Service order Probably 1t Will be good thing Tor some
ocehodes they may not DO worr' e 80 and as FOR
ine primaries-wci, two or three men will have 70 Tx
things.
An Eastern Democratic Congressman sad
Eyorv,hinr depsnds on the way constructs the
dcuuent and II is eptible or variety OF consuc-
,"ns II were out OF politics and were asked by an
",Isr should advise him to talk like aMugwump and
vote and act ike Democrat
Mr. Ermentrout. OF Pennsylvania. said:
Iis not practicable separate individual from oicai
influence in politics when both resae do IN tnG ns s sar
The President does not go as far as hayes I,I III n
.honld 80 not he delegates to political conventions
or members political committees guess tne eoy
will be allowed exercise all their influence snou'
reing snspectea OF "perncious activity 1t would I'D
strange If Democratic President should sesu . torn
TO secure Tho and election of good Democrats
TO office -
NJ, sowden. OF Pennsylva is blunt courageous
man, and he said
Iwonld not have issued such order II had been
President Imantain that every American Gltlen mas
me night TO follow his Judgment as 10 whst IL Is
proper or improper HIM to do in regard to POM
affairs and neither the President nor eso ,ro
rho ghl TO dictate what he shall do or refrain from
dong. $3.50
Mr. snrnrer of Illinois, is astute politician and he
said:
ynirbv approve the Presidents order. In my own
have
political conventions OF men who mold oce 60 %, rn '
cal committees TO withdraw from the latter
Mr. Henley, OF California said:
stand with tue presdsnt IN tns v,c,ors belong
IN. spois" but opposed TO tue assessment OF once
hos.nr Of poiitlcal conventions and primaries by
Mr. Fndisy. of Maryland who is au active friend OF
Cvu ssrvce reform and consequently bitter foe OF
The GormanHigsins Ring" expressed hope that the
President VIII the order to DO enforced In Mary
land where 1t needed as badly as such an ofuer ever
was in any State.
No nomination has been made in the district repre-
sented by Mr. Weoorn. OF Texas. He coaxingIy sau
Now do not mention At all Idon't want TO tan
about this matter.
Colonel Herbert of Alabama expressed his warn
anproya OF the ORDER which he says is in line with t'
Presidents views from the beginning and which he II
trying honestly to carry out
The tone of comment among Republicans is fairly in
dicatel By the following expressions:
AIr HiscocK OF New-York, said:
par~n,ly to win round of applause from tns
ttvn Service reiormers IL the ,ro mre ssS1nt
part N ana conroing primary meet h A%q n,Tr
,ncnis to issue the REQUESTS orders that effect There
would have been no need for al this parade 40 no
st,nd this manifesto he deferred by II from
any part "to, in not poS' ' Ss i nS s
that previous procamatons OF devotion 10 Cvl serve
reform in this Administration have been followed o.
wholesale removals Of ofhcehoders who were quiet
attending to their Official duties and taxing no part
ought to expect the consequences in this case
Mr. Reed, OF Maine, said:
Yes have read and read it with deep regret tina
the Author Of noble ntmeDts in behalf Of punt
Eppo nting power In the matter OF oilices
Ex-Governor Long, Of Massachusetts, remarked;
Tho order II II be an ORDER lacks point, 1t consists
clitierins geuerates II the PRESIDENT hau made a
the injunction heretofore given 1t would have bee
worth than volume OF such platitudes ana scors
with The one Issued by President Hayes in 1871 tn
sI d Cy ssrce REFORM is that he breaches
ter than he practses People want visible results Inc
care more FOR Cvi reform in the concrete ina
IN tue abstract
General Cuteheon, of Michigan. said:
This manifesto brass band that plays before b
door before the performance begins within IL Is no
really part OF the performance which will begin late
under the direction OF veteran politicians behind III
in his professions OF devotion Civil Service reform
ne TSu and boldly opposed to it, and many OF wboi
have been guilty OF nagrant violations OF both the lei
ter and spirit of the civil Service law.
Colonel Henderson. OF Iowa, said:
This manifesto, take it. rescnas all former proclaim
stand the wink They not to indulse an pernicous
political ACTIVITY. The only "pernicous" poictici
activity that WHOM is put forth iii oppos
tlon TO Democratic party. This manifesto rcgar
final kick at the last vestige Of honest Civil servic
reforuL
Mr. Burleigh OF New York, said:
It's an invitation to Democratic ohiceholders 10 do
this years campaign Just what Superintendent Shani
han did on the New canals In 1884 for CLEVELAND
III had moi been for Shanahan and the strikers h
controlled Blaine wond nave carried New York despi
me Mugwumps and Burchard. Why. who has forgOtte
that there was a complete hegira Of Democratic ofic