New-York tribune., 1886-03-10

Mr. Hayne, Of south Carolina VINO on siu ,n Pana,na
slon I'm an Executive session concerning tne rasnt
mission. discussing resolution Wnien ", retng po,
, sne ~, OH he tacts relating IT, an assembly Of con-
gres. OF South American and Centrdl -, Inc
pident 4. id apn,rently opposing resolution. said
However gentlemen may be ehanoleu ,hn ~, ',r"pnd
Gpprebend on which the senate ought to act III iu,-
filling their constitutional duty OF giving sci sc
h S,ith and no. by knowledge we have no business to
here think so too knowle1Se II , Ge"vI HftoTney @
General and President desire 1t to act IN putans
nv faith and not Uy know ledge then agree with seha-
tor Hayne tha, wo have 10 business 10 be here
TIE QUESTION OF PRECEDENTs.
"Iwl say in fairness TO the gentlemen on the O1her
side the Minority that it is that there have been
no instances calling for paper. in such case as tniS
because until 800 there statute authorizing tne
Prcsdeut to suspend any official at all 1t was thereio
perfectly and safe proposition tua' ui'i
1867 no case a call for papers had appeared /" "ho
the President or head OF department had aceeueo u
the demand Perhaps tho minority has simply meant
to saw that the senate has with success caed Oh
President for his reasons for removal In 1880 fes
dent Jackson removed surveyor TrmeIa tb Ie had
not susnended him-thrre WAS no law Tor snHrepsonS
He appointed to nj the yaGancy man ~, n"eu erS
formation regarding the removal OF WRIT. me ~
dent replied in a characteristic messare, saying IN
substance that that OF the numerous cans haue
on him by the Senate which he had hthcrl0 coinno"
with hut he going to stop now,-tnat nc n"a n i
moved Mr. he had right To 90 ana Tue reason
was none OF the senates business W,II1msop Al
day, without division rejected MT n,IIt1,n i, I'D
though in the MESSAGE IN which ths rre'9ed' d & @
ne would tell anything about what MirH hau oeom
dong he took particular pains TO say that Williamson
was one OF the best qualified and most ValnaDls prsI
affair between President Jackson and the senate on
the subject OF papers about appointments ,, D1"n ~,
10 that time every species of Information touching Tor
eign affairs of the most delicate cnaracter-tonchihg e
operations OF the ATmy-touchng every prt & OF ne ne M h
President and the President Just as rNciusVey as u
the power removal or susptnslon IreslAoht dde
ito all nis
to-day felt bOuud to give TO hoth Houses o ohHI,.
MIR Edmunds cited and commented on large number
of instances gathered from the journals OF C0ngress IN
which by resolution and otherwise Congress had caer
the President. or heads "l department. Ior io' &
ton and papers respecting great variety oI TOPICS n
got what it called for. Here. he continued
a series of prece tents coNerin2 shou'u S,y c,u. %
acer of acknowledgements papers called Tor hN 'N
press resolution OF the senate IrNae Wdo
the President of the United states py sono M
the United States upon topic that the ehale ,nU"m,
Itself to Know about vii repa cover.
ing every variety the functions of government ana
called upon have supposed that the Congress Was IN
vading their stitutional or sacred privacy theIey
official character II dd "a constitutions prs.cn o W.,
Governments and that each III the exercise o tc ,,
the other branch of tho Government knew JUST a. p
the standing orders OF Iae Se9ag ng or IN. Whole
OF every secret Journal to be present at the meetings
the senate If he chooses To De'
THAT "INNoCUOUs DEsUETUDE" PAEAGRAPl'
The minority of the committee has said truly that no
Su
the time the Democrats had control of the Senate fr"
1870 to ISL and the President, in his supplementary
min ,rity report the deliberations OF the senate n"S
stated with iullness Of rhetoric which Is as charming
as It is unique that these statutes OF the United S's
and the practices them nave now for many years
fallen into state of nnocuous drsuetude. II that be
true 1t ought be OF the missions "f thc lTtsue
In usehargng the duty that the Constitution hpe' 10
him. 10 take that statute ou' OF d.''1e ~ n .@9 70 M
shorter aud humber phrasr) ana as ne > HW"n ~ W ~ '
uui II INTO faithful execution But is the statute III UIo
use The Committee on ne JH.''II' - 4i"" @ si' ti ,
the passage OF the ac'' alH may s'nI' 'a ,, ~ " 80 t
before rs have learned by the examination oi ora
papers in the S,crctarys Office has been H. the aoi ~
General for an the information that he mad aud when
the law respecting removals as wen Is api"
suspension aud from the day General Grant came In
to the present tine the l.te" ID q nan
lar practice. that 1t ht- pursued without exception o
never acting upon removal Wules" som" lhemoef @ U.u
personal Knowledge which mad" the tai. unnecessary y
...loa -, So new prtct ice has been
csabli-hcdnD change had takca place on ne incoming
~ T1e mu"Tity Of The committee has said that such
srectacle as the Judiciary Committee Is now prcschnE
~ an asIoui.hed world and astOnshed ana injured
President ami Attorney Genera ever presented ~
~, i'7ocrtc tiurs I,t MS see on the 5,h OF March,
1879 the Democrats had majority "f ms body. lheir
committee the Judiciary was MI nun man Vh
man; Mr. Mcdonald, OF Indiana; MI BAY ara OF DcIA
present secretary OF state Nj "1ianu' 1 " "
Arkansas Qrescnt Acknowledgement ar. Lamar W W
Mississippi prrsent secretary OF tue interior 1uS
DAVIS OF Illinois and Messrs Edmnna7, 'onhianE anu
Carpenter do not know but That the committees el
ter book private aud cOnndenpd hut WI. t'hc nc
1t laughter even II II gets 10 Tue
of the Attorney General dud TIE fres"eh' VI Inv
United states , . Lotion from, ,ir
Tburnan as Ch irman OF the Committee. TO the Attor
ney.Gencra dated March "a 1879, calling Ior such
ment concerning the following nominations together
with any suggestions you may he pleased to h0t'
non the 7th OF April" continued Mt lihuhus'
there came in a morse Of different co'Oi lhe sam
knd Of an animal that We have here now laughtrI
Accordingly that day this letter was written u INC
Attorney-GeneTal' :
The Honorable Attorney General otttc Cnoed Stttcs:
Of The cnatc have the honor request that viii
communicate TO the committee any papers OF mr., ,,r
prirty Of the renooat temphasis by Mr Ldn4na OF OF
the Territory OF Titan, ana the appointment Oh DaN
servant ALLEN G.. TmUEMAN, ChaiTnan
GENEROUS TRIBUTE TO MR.. THURMAN.
"Alas. for the Democracy OF those days. Laughter
Think Mr. President. of the Infinite idiocy' the un'
parloism the usurpaton OF that number of five Sena
,ors OF the United States OF the Democratic party as
sailing Republican Attorney General and Kepunh-
can President with the insulting and important inquiry
As to papers and information touching suspended OH
Ger whose successor nominated to accomplish MS
| removal And yet those men were In their day-in
! those times-among the headlights OF the Democratic
locomotive Laughter There was Thurman-his hght
ia put renewed laughterl-the greatest Denocrat
in the United States appiAuse IN Ihe eaeres "nu th
best one noblest and the hrayest ne
bad the not long ago. III your Satesr TO de
nOunce the Democratic frauds at the baOt lhefe was
| thurman, and there was " Joe " McDnnald' hamo
familiar In the West. "A In the East as mo
! and there was Garland, whom all knew here the
leader of the Democratic OF the Senate. fun ana
| ruuuing over with constitutional ana statnte ana
renorted aw-knOuing his rights as Senator ana as
member OF the committee and knowing his dutes ana
Iamar-and them all the rest OF us on this SIDE joining
I'm what the President OF the United states cam
a. Impertinent innovation of his rights In asking Tor
papers Mr. President, If were going to be rhetorcsi
should say lust there Oh shame, Wher" Is thy Du'h
But that the only Instance Inc same onaifm m
on many has called for that same CLASS OF III
| formatO and got it," -. -, -
conld fail TO get papers the ground that
the statde the subject had become obsolete sTho
tnto state OF innocuOus desuetude." Laughter Tho
! President himself had sent 10 the Senate O1d
iaapces of obedience that law; CAB nominations un-
der and Mr. Edinunds therefore took II that the law
| was still IN force.
Mr. Pugh rose to reply. 40 -, ,, ,