Los Angeles daily herald., 1886-04-10
PARLIAMENT.
How GladstOne's Scheme
is Received.
LORD HARTINGToN's REPLY
Probability that the Home Rnlt
Bill will be Adopted by
Parliament.


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mons was again crowded. Among the
visitors were the Dukes of Connaught
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bassadors. although the a''enuahce
showed the intense interest that is taken
In the nrooraaa of The dehateon the irish
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abated. Mr.. Gladstone was heartily
cheered when he arose and said that the
debate xvould he continued until Monday.
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He announced that the Budget would be
| introduced on Tuesday, and the Irish
land iii also ON that dav the latter be.
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ing necessary suppie'nen' W .ne iio"'e
Rule bill. lie proposed that the House
ad iourn for weeks holiday at Easter.
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faint cheer. Upon arising ne saiu 'ha'
he rose more for the purpose OF making
personal explanation than with the
object of entering upon detailed dis
cussion of the speech of Mr.. Gladstone.
Continuing he said that when he was
asked to Join the movement he told Mr..
Gladstone that he did not think it posi-
Bile to reconcile a separate Parliament
at Dublin as demanded by the Irish
members with the conditions OF full
| fr,,ara,,faaa for the Racurifv of the ,.t,-
pire, and Mr.. Gladstone informed him
that all he wanted then was an indepen-
dent inquiry into the subject OF the gov
eminent OF Ireland. He did not resign
on the land purchase proposals alone
but on the whole scheme. Still, he
asked, how could be explain Ras position
If his hands were tied! conservative
cheers. He took the four principal OBJ
iections to the scheme for the
government OF Ireland. The first
was the proposal to exclude the
Irish members from Westminster
The second objection was to renouncing,
as proposed, the exercise OF the right OF
imperial taxation. In the third place,
he objected to the surrender OF the ap-
pointments OF Judges and magistrates;
and, finally, he objected to the supreme
authority given to the Irish Parliament
in matters not especially excluded from
its authority. The financial question,
he continued, divided itself into two
parts. The English taxpayer would OBJ
lect to any additional burden being
thrown on him to make good irish defi-
ciencies, and the Irish taxpayer, II there
were deficiency In the Budget,
owing to the failure of excise and Gus
toms duties, would be called on to pay
new taxes, falling to do which the gov
eminent would be obliged to repudiate
their obligations. As for himself, rather
than face the future agitation which
would be certain to prevail between the
two countries; rather than face the dis
fractions and foreign complications
which would arise by having quasi in
dependent government. he would vote
for separation, pure and simple. [Lond
cheers. He looked for the solution
of the Home Rule matter in the direc-
ton of federation. Under federation
Ireland would remain an integral por-
tion of the empire. The principal OF
federation had been successful in Ger
many and America. 1t would, he as
serted, maintain imperial unity and at
the same time satisfy the desires of the
Irish people for local self-gov ernment.
Mr.. Healy tainted Mr.. Chamberlain
with using his five years experience to
attack minister of fifty years expert
ence. He ridiculed the scheme OF Mr..
Chamberlain as impracticable and as in
volving an indefinite postponement OF
legislation.
Mr.. Lubbock udberal) said he be-
lieved that if the bill passed at all it
would be against the wishes OF great
majority OF the people OF the country.
The bill 10 entirely opposed to the views
expressed by the Premier in his Midlo-
THAN speeches, and its result would be
the ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF the empire.
The Marquis OF Harrington rose to
speak at 10 P. N. and was loudly cheered.
IL required, he said, no prolonged exam
nation Of the scheme submitted last
last night with so much eloqucnce and
ability to say that the project for estab-
fishing the future relations between this
country and Ireland was one which it
would be absolutely impossible for them
to make themselves parties to. fCheers
The distinguishing feature OF the act of
union was the creation of a
sovereign legislature which was
to be the sole legislative body
for the Kingdom of Great Britain
and ireland, and it was kingdom thus
legislatiyely united that was meant
when they spoke of the United Kingdom
Of Great Britain and Ireland. (Cheers.)
The country, he. said, had no sufficient
warning. 1t had no warning at ali that
any proposals Of the magnitude and vast.
ness OF those which were explained last
night were to be considered in the
present Parliament, much less that they
were to form the subject for considera-
ton. (CheArs) The House OF Com
mons had no moral right to initiate leg
islation of which the constituencies had
not been previously informed. The re-
suit OF the last election was not Alto
gether what had been expected. The
present triumph Of the Liberal party
was not as complete as had been antici-
pated. and il it had been known that
the first work of the new Parliament
and the Liberal Ministry was to be the
entire resettlement of the legis-
lative relations between England
and Ireland, it was safe TO
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return OF large Conservative majority.
| l0pposition cheers.l If the proposals of
the Prime Minister were accepted by
the Irish members it would only Civ g
them vantage ground for demanding
fresh concessions. Whatever might be
the fate of the measure its introduction
by a. responsible Minister would have
done much that could not be recalled.
l[Cheers.l This measure would hence
forth be the minimum OF the Irish de-
mand. II, as he thought likely, it did
not command the support OF the people
Of the country, its introduction
without adequate consideration or
preparation, would have aided vast.
lily to repeat the difficulties OF
IrCheers. He could not believe the PEG.
pie Of England would consent to the
loyal minority in Ireland neing nanueo
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