The clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1883-1888, 1886-04-14
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ontinued Mr.. Gladstone something is
demanded from us to restore
n Ireland the first conditions of civil life,
he free course of law, the liberty of every
Individual in the exercise of every legal
.ight-their confidence in their law and
heir sympathy with the law, apart from
which no country can be called a civilized
country.
"What, then, was the problem before
aim? Ii was this: How TO reconcile inn
oerial unity with diversity OF legislation.
Mr.. Grattan held that these purposes were
more than that, he de-
manded
SEVERANCE OF THE PARLIAMENTs
with view to the continuity and ever
lasting unity OF the empire. Was that an
audacious paradox? Other countries had
solved the problem, and under much more
difficult circumstances We ourselves |
might be said TO have solved it with re- |
speet to Ireland during the time that Ire
land had a separate Parliament. Did it |
destroy the unity Of the British Empire? ?"
Cheers.
Mr.. Gladstone then pointed to the case
OF Norway and Sweden, which countries
were. he said, united upon footing of
strict Legislative independence and CO.
equality. Then there was the case OF
Austria and Hungary; and with regard to
these countries he asked whether the con-
dition of Austria at the present moment
was not more perfectly solid, secure and
harmonious than it was prior 10 the exist
ing condition between that country and
Hungary? 1t could not be questioned
that Its condition was one of solidity and
safety compared with that of the time
when Hungary was making war upon her.
''The claim OF ireland TO make laws for
herself was never denied" continued DIR.
Gladstone, until the reign of George Ii.
The Parliament of Grattan was as indie
pendent in point of authority as it could
be.
''They (the governmentl were not about
TO propose
THE REPEAL OF THE UNION.
1t was impossible to propose the repeal OF
the union until they had settled what was
the essence OF the union. He defined the
essence OF the union to be the fact, that
whereas before the union there were two
separate and independent Parliaments,
after the union there was but one
| ITO speak OF the ACKNOWLEDGMENT of the
empire was In this century misnomer, an
utter absurdity. The fault of the admin
| istrative system OF Ireland was that its
spring and source of action was English
LCheersl The government, therefore, fell
that TIE settlement of the question was tC
be found by establishing Parliament il
Dublin Irish cheers for the conduct o
business of both legislative and an ad
ministrative nature.
THE political economy OF the tire,
countries must be reconciled There shoulC
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burdens. Next, there must be reasonable
safeguard for the minority, and WHY coul,
not this minority in Ireland take care O
J itself? He had no doubt about It's ability t
do that when we have passed through tn
present critical period ard be disarmed O
jealousies with which any change wa
, approached. But for the present Their
were three classes of people whom the
We're bound to consider: First, the elias
connected with the lands: second, the civi
, servants and officers of the government i
) Ireland third, the Protestant minority
81 The speaker could not admit the clair
of the Protestant minority in Ulster 0
elsewhere to rule on questions which wer
, for the whole of Ireland. Several scheme
for the separate government of Ulster ha
been submitted TO him. One was thu
Ulster province should be excluded fror
e the operation of the present bill anothe
was, that a separate autonomy should /
:. provided for Ulster, and third suggeste
Il that certain rights should be reserved an
J placed under provincial councils.
'No one of these proposals had appeare
: to the government to be so completed
S justified by its merits or by the weight
e public opinion in its favor as to warar
/ the government in including it in the
e bill. However, they deserved fair consi,
Grafton, and the free discussion that woul
r. follow the introduction of the present bi
1t might lead 10 the discovery Of one pla
which had a predominating amount
$ support, and the government would d
e, their best to adopt the plan that SCENE
d likely to give general satisfaction.
n Referring to the great settlement of 17S
d Mr.. Gladstone said it was not rea. settl
d ment, and why? Was it Ireland that pr
vented a real settlement being made
t Irish cheers. No, it was a mistake
e policy OF England listening to the pc
g nicious voice and claims of ascendenc
lie The Irish Parliament labored under gre
lie disadvantages, yet it had in it spark
d the spirit of freedom, and 1t emancipate
y the Roman Catholics in Ireland when Il
i Roman Catholics in England were sti
unemancipated. 1t received Lord Fit
le william with open arms, and when, after
1t brief career, he was recalled to Englan
Is the Irish Parliament registered their COZ
l. fidence in him by passing resolution
string that he should still administer Il
/, government Lord Fitzwilliam had Or
r NOTED the admission Of Roman Catholi
d in the Irish Parliament, and there was
s. spirit in that Parliament which, if it hi
had free scope, would have done mob
r, work. and probably would have solved a
" the Irish problems and have saved tn
lie government infinite trouble.
h The speaker said he would now pass
10 the plan
:. HOW TO GIVE IRELAND A LEGISLATIVE
g to deal with Irish as distinguished fro
i, imperial affairs. He was confronted
ID the outset with what he felt to be fo
r midable dilemma. Ireland was to have
n domestic Legislature for Irish affairs tn
l. was his postulate, from which he set on
n Were the Irish members and the Iris
representative peers in the other House
n continue to form part OF the representa-,
a. assemblies, the speaker thought it won
h be perfectly clear that if Ireland was
- have domestic Legislature, the Iris
N peers and the Irish representatives cou
. not come to Parliament to control Eneli.
N and Scotch affairs. ICheers.1
J. Then, with regard to the questie
J. whether Irish representatives should con
. to the House of Commons for the settl,
, ment OF imperial affairs, he thought
s could not be done; he had therefore arrive
4 at the conclusion that Irish members an
;. and Irish peers ought not to sit in II
i palace of Westminster. TOh ,oh cheers
a Ii Irish members were not to sit in II
e House Of Commons, Irish peers out not
q sit in the other house of Parliament. Heal
. Hear and Oh
How were the Irish people to be taxed
they had Legislators In both countries ? Il
u believed that Great Britain would ney.
$ impose upon Ireland taxation witho,
!. representation, and added, "If we were
!, have taxation without representation, the
= there would come another question whic
: would raise practical difficulty, and ths
Is: Are we to give up that fiscal unity {
: the empire %
e He did not think that by giving ND III
t fiscal unity of the empire they were giyin
e up the unity of the empire. He, howeye
7 stood upon the substantial ground that I
. give up the fiscal unity Of the empire woul
:. be public Inconvenience and misfortun,
, 1t would be great misfortune for Grea
Britain and great misfortune for ireland
t He conceived that one escape from that dj
J JENNA would be. such an arrangement n
! would give the imperial government
authority to levy customs duties. and sucl
as were Immediately in connection wifi
the customs.
i The conditions of such an arrangement
were, frat, that the general power of taxa
, ton over and above the particular dutie
should pass into hands of a domestic I.egis
lature in Ireland second, that the proceed
|. of the customs and excise should be he'll,
for the benefit OF Ireland and for the dis
!. charge of the obligations of Ireland anf
the payment of the balance, after these oh
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