The Hawaiian gazette., 1886-08-31

snow tnat ar. Gto>oo SSS Personally cocnizSnt
ot Il.
Representative KSulukou said that he admired
the member 81 Molokai for having kept his vord
With hls constituents on lsSnai, III pressing this
case, and he also admired the member for Isahaina
I for hIs industry IN the committee. The report of
the majority showed desire even al the outset to
Z inIure the Minister. The words, "and unfit the
said Minister TO hold his high Office proved the
snim1s. BE oontsnded that the member for No
lOkSi had gone the wrong way to effect this object
Z If the Minister guilty of greSt wrong doing.
article - ot the Constitution provided the remedy
I The speaker here read the article in question:
\ Impeachment vo0ld have been the proper course,
but Rep ThurSioa knew that the Legislature would
not hsSr ofimpsachmsut in this case. The speaker
continued without but slight interruption until
the noon hoar wSs reached at which time adjourn
I nsnt was had until lSSo P.
AFTERNOON.
I The Assembly convened agsin at l45, snd quo
rnn being then present, Rep, hslukou took the
I door snd spoke on the question which had occu-
/ pied the attention Of the Assembly before the re-
cSSS the reports presented on the ISnai cleo
ton Investigation. In the course of his remarks
he said. that thSt the conclusion reached by the
majority OF the committee not justified by the
I facts. Snd he thought the members for hau and
kva must be sorry they had signed the report
He considered the minority had presented the
II Its true light, ana would therefore vote for
the adoption Of that report.
Representative hAuhAne considered IL WAS within
the province OF The Legislature 10 enquire into any
complaint Of the people tnAI they had been op-
pressed BY Government officers. particularly if
Any OF the oppresSors were members Of the Minis
Try. De Was very sorry that there should have
been any occasion for such an enquiry. II was
only of late years th2t they had heard in this coun
try Of Goyeruusnt OF Ministerial candidates. Il
would be muca better II the Ministry left the cleo
mons Sione, allowing the people to vote as they
pleased
Representative Richardson said this was very
important matter. and taat on the previous day be
was nos In favor OF the Indefinite poS.ponement
Of han rfna Hau-
resd, s member Of the Cabinet, (the Attorney Gen
rzSll who did not understand word Of Hawaiian.
jumped to his feed and moved its indefinite post
ponemeut. Ae thought that was very strange as
ne very sure the Minister had not resd the re-
port before making The motion. Now, however
having had an opportunity OF studying the report,
he was bound 10 say that be hsd arrived at concla-
sloas different from tnoSe OF the majority of The
committee.
Representative Paehaole claimed that the As
SsInbIy had full right 70 enquire into the conduct
OF any Minister and If proved ar fault. then they
were liable 10 the cslSure of the body.
Representative kaunamano sIid that be consid-
ered thst the committee had worked faithfully and
honestly IL the matter. aud deserved credit for
their l2borS but. he could not agree with the CON
clusiOnS aErN Cd at by the majority.
Representative Dole much regretted the personal
character. or the pSrt of OF the Ministers, of
the discussion Of the pEeyIO1s day That style Of
olSc1SSion was something new 10 this Assembly.
IN nany yers be had never nesrd z native Hawai-
IAN engage IL such discussion. That was re-
served for street hOoilumS and hAUtboys. There
vsS kind OF personal discussion which was aG-
n1iSsible- Such the discussion of the acts of
Minister. When the matter first came before the
House, Minister Gibson appeared eager 10 have il
Investigated, but, II the speaker wasnot mistaken,
ne had repSnsed Ot lhat desire Still, he was pre-
pared to give eEe Minister crspi. for having hon
eStly changed his mind IS TO the jurisdiction OF
the Legislature.
That policy the speaker considsred, was good
one 10 sdOpt and would probably be adhered TO as
Il had succeeded already IN capturing one or two
members Of the Assembly, notably 50 the member
from Ao!okAi (Dickeyl llaughter.l This leads
up 10 the question then OF tbs legality of the in
Tstigstion Nnd 1t Struck him that the question az
Issue. having remedy II 4 court of Law is no
Snsysr 10 the night claimed OF the Assembly to
investigate the Attorney General took that line +!
bet he well knOES thSt investigations are going on
the world over by legislative Committees IN Ane-
rlcs st Washington and Albany, and some to ths (
results Of theSs same investigations have placed
NeE 1Ork Aldermen on their way to the psuiten- |
nary. NJ. GaElsnd's offence fof the American !
CAbinst) was simply holding stock IL a company /
which action vas deemed inconsistent with his po-
SItloo. Ihe ol1euity IN the pEsSeut case was the /
argument that the Minister not acting IN his 4
Official capacity: but he thought the Legislature /
S1oGld Sske cOgulZzncs 0f the acts of q Minister
which -ended - Ssbysrt the Laws that he Was
bound 10 protect TheSs charges If true, charge (
him sIth interfering with el-ctlo1s contrarI 10 h
Sectlo1 sig Of the Civil Code, and " found true 4
Lhs Minister EslS Certainly liable 10 cslSurs by
this Assembly, becluse the laws alleged to he ira
p1o.ic liberties OF the people. The defence Is i
mainly that ihe ranch abandoned TO Nr. Hay-
>eIoeu, Sud drOTe-, 4 StOckmau. and the Minis
ter had washed his hands of the whole thing Yet 1
consider be had no interest Is. to say the least
very improbable. This vas not small matter
foE If people II o1tsids districts, with few If any
S1pSZT0rS 70 consult With, we're oppressed by men /
high II position, II vas OF great Importance AMI i
should be thoroughly investigated By this Assem- I
bly, The member for MOlOksi had spoken in the /
interests OF these poor people for the purpose OF
IosEstIng theSs slaves, not with any in.saf TO de
grade then bat to obtain their rights for them. /
De did nos know say member OF this House who I
looked better after his constituents than the hon
Esnbsr for MsLokai. Life vas only worth living
for zhen one had an opinion and dsred 10 express
II 1h=rs SaS q slavery of the mind which vas 1
zo-S than that OF ths body, and II the conditions
attempted TO be imposed on the tenants Of Lanai I
dId nos Constitute slavery II vas certainly Tery
much Ike II.
Representative Th1rston said he vas not going
into the DsrItS OF ths evidence, but desired to
Drks remarks OF soIns points that had heen rais-
ed his utteTsncEs yesterday were not designed !
20 InrCsEee a decision on the main question SO (
much as TO protest against what he regarded as
an attempted outrage OF the decsnciss OF parIia-
u6lfsrF practice 1hs stand assumed by the
Representative Richardson Yesterday was an honor
70 hin as member OF the ministerial side Of the
hoCsa. In this also I1cl1de the honorable mem
bez for Hama Rep hssi, ana other members of
E1c GOTerlTnzCc party. 1hs question then vas
not upon the merits Of the case bat on the con-
s-d=-zt1o1 Of ths report and the Attorney Gen
ersl desired TO put o1t rhs report almost before 1t
=as Tad What the result OF this matter II is
nothing - ne co ny dGfy By seeing 1t Though.
IEe Attorney General had charge him with vim
olcsTys1sss- zIth personal and PARTISAN desired
20 In!1re Ehe Ministry This Eas not the first
tine that s1ch Al insinuztioa vas put forth. He
Ess represented a. having been appointed at an
opposition csnczs 70 bring forward all sorts OF re-
solutions and Petitions ageinSt the Government
To this he would give an emphatic denial bat as
scre the bOcse thai, - long as any zrC1g existed
or any rzs7slIEy 1er1ed exposure Molokai would
Be hard from every time While he held Molokai's
sezt- Wiz regard 70 the statement that the re-
port as II his lInGrsto1S} hand writing he zould
say that the fact Vas that the English Eas tran