Richmond dispatch. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, 1886-07-25
THE DYNAMITARDS.
TIE TESTIMONY YESTERDAY IN TIE
CHICAGO ANARCHIST TRIALS.
Lawyers and Reporters on the Stand
What Spies Said About the
Newmarket Affair.
lBy telegraph 10 the Dispa,ch.l

tBy telegraph 10 the Dispatch.l
CHICAGO, July 24.-In the An.
archist trials to-day James g. Miller,
attorney, said he knew Fielden. lie
saw him on the lake front last fall, and
heard him address q crowd there. In
the course Of his speech Fielden said
the woIkingmen were justified In OBJ
tanning that which was theirs and
which was withheld from them by the
rich. He said that equality OF posses
sion was what was wanted, and that to
obtain this the laborers were justified
IN using force. There we're 200 or 800
persons in the crowd.
William NJ. Knox, a reporter,
was the next witness. lie saw
Spies, Schwab, and Fielden on
the night of May 5th, and
interviewed Spies at the police head
quarters that evening--in the presencea
part Of the time Of Inspector BOntield.
Spies, after recounting his personal his
tory, asked the witness what the coro'
ner's jury had done. He was told that
they held him without bail on the
charge Of murder. Spies expressed
surprise at this, saying he did not know
how they could do that. He said he
didn't want to 20 to llaymarket. lie
told it TO Schwab, and finally when
he got there he made quieting speech.
lie said be did not know where the
Revenge" circular was printed. As
soon as the explosion took place he
went 10 Zeph's Hall, and there met
Mrs. Parson, who was waiting for her
husband. Spies said he was standing
on wagon a moment or two before
The bomb went of. Some one, he
thought it was William Lichener, told
him to get off tho wagon. Spies also
said he had some bombs and guam
tity Of fuse in his office, but he kept
them there solely to show them to re-
porters.
Knox testified that Spies declared in
this interview that ne had not intended
going to the Haymarket meeting, and
only did so as an afterthought. Spies
claimed to have been surprised when
the bomb was thrown.
Lawrence Pardy, newspaper re-
porter, described the meeting held at
Zeph's Hall on March 10Th, when Fielden
spoke and advised those present to
march up the Black road and take pos
session Of McCormick's factory, which
rightfully belonged TO the workingmen.
Those present were mainly Mccormick
strikers. Parsons expressed the same
sentiment, while Spies spoke in Ger
man.
A sensation was here created among
the Anarchists by the appearance IN the
Yimess-bOx Of Andrew G. Johnson.
ore OF pinkerton's detectives. Spies
REGARDED him With an expression ofsur-
prise and alarm, and immediately be-
gan on earnest conversation with his
attorney.
Witness began his testimony by stating
that be was member Of the Amer
lean branch Of the International Work
ingmen's Union, and belonged to an
armed section Of that force. Continuing,
Detective johnson said that he had
Joined this organization for the purpose
Of finding out their objects and taking
secret notes Of their proceedings. lie
attended all the meetings from February
90, 1885, to January, 1856. lie took
reports in writing Of the meetings and
turned them over to W. \.
PinAerton, superintendent of the
detective agency. Witness stated
be had since learned that Pinkerton
men had been detailed on the same SER
vice. His own attendance at the meet
irgs of the armed section was confined
to two occasions. At meeting of the
American group, the debate OF which
was given by witness, Fischer, one Of
the defendants, introduced a resolution
denounciDg man named Wight, who,
it was alleged, had escaped the punish
ment due some crime by means Of his
high standing in society. Spies OPP
posed the resolution, saying What
is the use Of passing the resolution! Now
is the opportunity for some Of our young
men to 20 and shoot Wight" Atanother
meeting April lst. Spies, in a similar
manner, advised the shooting Of a po-
lice sergeant, who had been tried upon
a serious charge, but acquitted on the
testimony OF brother-OtIicers.
As q further sample Of how leading
Anarchists were continually Selling
upon every incident engaging public at
tention, and urging subordinate mem
bers to make il the occasion Of some
startling act of violence, witness re-
lated that Fielden, referring to the dedi-
cation Of the new Board of Trade, said
at one of the meetings What
splendid opportunity there would be
for some bold fellow next Tuesday eve
ming to make the capitalists tremble
by blowing up the building and all
there is in it,
The detective recounted his ex-
perience at the meeting OF the armed
section, held August 9th, at 81 west
Lake street. Twenty or twenty-five
men were present and two women.
Nearly one third Of the afternoon was
given to the cross-examination of De-
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