New-York tribune., 1886-08-26
TORIES LOSING GROUND.
AvrAr SPEECHES BY Mr.. PARNELL AND
Mr.. GLADSTONE.
.ovrRyMrNT's SCHEME FOR UNDERWRITING
th. vn,opps uNpoPuLAR-PRIYcE ALKxAN-
nvv,s powNFALL-A NEW BULGARIAN

y.NpLoRps UNPoPULAR-PRiNCE ALS~AN
nyK,s powNFALL-A NEW BULGARIAN
AGITATION POSSIBLE IN ENGLAND.
IBY CABLE TO THE rRIBuNEl
,,vnoy. AuQ 25.-It is evident enough that the
-.rnment are losing ground. The country since
VoT,,rsaav has had time to consider Lord Sails
-. nroposal to indemnify the Irish landlords
aoss not like it, So strong was the hostile feei-
- - tho House that Sir Michael Hicks-Beach on
Sss.aov endeavored to modify the effect OF what
81 Lord Salisbury and Lord Randolph Churchill
IA stated the previous week; but Sir Nlchael
11;.ro- -Reachs languaga was too vague to quiet the
.,xie,ies of the British taxpayer. lie had notnihg
S,.ar to offer than the that the Govern-
,.ont would do nothAg and would propose nothlng
an the Royal Commission had inquired and re-
norted. This satisfies nobody.
Lord Salisbury expressly said that IL under tne
Ind Act of 1881 judicial rents had been hxed
t;rhor than the tenant could pay the State and
not the landlords must suffer for the errors the
State had made. There can be no doubt that the
Covernment really intended that rents In euch
casss should lie reduced and that the state shouio
nav the landlord the difference; but that plan Is
dead Mr Gadstone's language last night was not
zoo strong when he said in the House that mo power
nm earth. no power within these walls or beyond
them. will succeed in carrying into law such pro-
nositiOn"
tbs Ministerial policy. an essential factor In that
general scheme of compromss and copciliation oy
which things were to be made pleasant all around.
Notices. damaging to the Ministry has been the
course of debate in the House of Commons, last
night most of all Nj Parnells speech is deciara-
tion of rar. He has rejected all offers made by the
G;overnment and rejected them with contempt III
be ever entertained tho notion OF coming 10 terms
with the Ministry be has abandoned 1t. "Ours
saws Mr. Parncll, ais the winning cause" ana nc
Clearly believes that he is going to win without
Tory belp.
Mr. parnells speech was far more powerful than
that made by him OH the last night OF the Home
Rne dobate He took the Min isterial programme
IN pieces and the Ministry Will find some dlnculty
in nutting 1t together again. He declines to accept
I ord Salisburys scheme of converting dual owner
SHIN of l-ish land into single ownership by the
occnpicr lie desires that result. but not by Lord
Sal,sbnry's method. lie denounces the Tory scheme
of local government for Ireland identical with that
for England and Scotland. Tie withdraws his ap-
proval of Lord Ashbournes Land Purchase act, de-
cl,tipa that il cannot be worked in company with
coercion. He says picturesquely enough: II You
divorce the settlement of the land question from
the National question, if you ALLEVIATE National feel
ing YOU Will find you have got hold of very
thorny stick by the wrong end" /" Under Mr.. Glad
stones plan.~ SAYS Mr. Parncl. the repayment of
the uouey advanced to tenants for the purchase
of the land would have beeu certain. Under the
present plan security is safe" No item Of the
present scheme escapes his criticism He rdcules
sir Rodvors Buffers moonlightin2 expedition ID
Kerry and REJECTS what he describes as dishonest
and fraudulent proposal TO bribe Ireland by vast
expenditure on useless public works. He accuses
the Cover mont of exciting the landlords to whole
sale cvia-..~s erd declares himself powerless to
prevent the outragos which will follow. He pre-
diets the suspension of the constitutional rights OF
Ireland In and out of the House of Commons as the
inevitable result Of an attempt to govern Ireland
against Irish opinion.
The Tory press treats this threat. Ii 1t be, II
is one which Mr.. PaIneil has power to make good
in very considerable degree. The Tories. how
ever have their eyes fixed on the House and their
main idea is TO carry the address and estimates and
10 adjourn they con .idereG Mr.. Gladstone's
speech last night AS more injurious than Mr. Par
ncis They accuse Mr.. Gladstone, not for the hrst
time OF encouraging no-rent war
Mr Gladstone who spoke after Mr. PaInell, dis
coufaged Parliamentary opposition and declined
10 vote for Mr., Pdruelrs amendment deprecatlng
evictons; but his whole speech was conceived
on liurs similar to Mr.. Parnelrs. The effect of
it was enhance1, not lessened. by Lord Randolph
Chutchirs uugracious attempt to prevent on tcch-
nual grounds discussion of the whole question of
Ministerial policy. lie does not believe in the DOS
sibility of separating the maintenance of social
order from organic reform in the relations between
England and Ireland We shall cou tinue," said
Mr Gladstone to teach legality to the best of
power; but while Ireland is not administered in the
Irish spirit you can security for peace"
This the Tories fail not to remark is OF those
predictions hich tend to fulfil themselves.
These two remarkable speeches have seriously
impaired Tory satisfaction with Lord IIartington's
assurances the day before Of support Lord Hart.
ingtou's attitude is not one o. complete aoquies-
oence IN the Ministerial views or OF confidence in
their ultimate success but he saws with bis usual
good sense that further evidence Is wanted on the
question whether the tenants can or cannot pay
rents Mr.. Parnell assumes that they cannot.
Most people agree that there are many cases where
they cannot But what is wanted is body of evil
dence respecting tho general condition of the
Try on which general measures may be based. Lord
darlington wholly avoided committing himself in
favor of Lord Saliabury's proposal to indemnify
landlords Sir. Chamberlain, who speaks to-mor-
row. Is certain TO condemn IL uncss he renOunces
the principle on which he opposed Mr. Gladstone's
Land Purchase act. namely that the British tax
payer should not be burdened for the benefit of
Irish landlords even though Mr. Gladstone be-
leyed it 10 be an Obligation Of honor
lndi ynation and disgust at the outrage on Prince
Alexander aud Bulgaria are uuiversaIin England
The lying kilograms first sent by the couspirators
puzzled the foreign opinion but secured little
credence. The facts are still imperiectly known.
bot enough is known to convince Europe that the
Bolgarians have little part in the so called revou
lion. The English opinion is that Russia intrigued
with Prince AlcXaDder's enemies bonoht nm ,roo,s
enough for the midnight seizure. carried of the
frnce. and relied on the Bulgarians acquiescng il
the new Government, which promised them union
win Eastern Runelia under Russian protection
inis oellef is not confined 10 lingo or to Tory
'"c'es The Liberals denounce the proceedings
n'oio vigorously than the Tories who do not wish