Morning journal and courier., 1886-04-09
News by Telegraph FROM ALL QUARTERS. HOME RULE FOR IRELAND Gladstone Makes Public His
 Scheme.
 A PARLIAMENT OF HER OWN. ParneII Thinks We'll of The
 Plan. THE SILVER BILL KILLED. Trains Moving Again Without Trouble.

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 The Scheme By Which Gladstone Pro-
 poses To Give The Irish People
 Home RuIe-A Plan Which ParneII
 Thinks With Some Improvement | Will Prove Satisfactory.
 LONDON, April S.-As early as o'clock
 this morning, when the dust men entered the
 House of Com&ons, members began to ar
 rive, being principally Irish members and at
 once seats were selected, the members placing 1 their hats on the chosen seats as 8 sign that l the seats had been taken By noon every
 seat had been halted. At 4 o'clock, when
 Speaker Peel took the chair, the House was
 crowded to it's utmost capacity, and every 1 doorway showed railways crammed with people, all coming to see and hear. In the gallery Minister Phelps sat between Prince l Christian and the Greek minister, with the 1 Duke of Cambridge and the Prince of Wales
 on his left. MT. Gladstone entered the Houss
 at 4:30 and was greeted with prolonged cheer l ing in which the ringing yell of the Irish contingent was the loudest and most pro- longed. AS soon as the cheering ceased Mr. Gladstone rose and moved for permission to
 introduce bill to amend previous legisls-
 tion and to make provision for the future government of Ireland Mir. Glad
 stone spoke in support of his motion for | three hours and twenty-five minutes. The I Premier began at 4:35 and finished at 8 l o'clock precisely. Every salient point was
 received with vociferous applause and at the | conclusion his supporters rendered him a | perfect ovation, the cheering lasting many minutes.
 ] MT. Gladstone said that he could wish that ! it could have been possible to expound to the House the whole policy and intention of the government with reference to Ireland. The questions of the land and of the Irish gov ! ernment were closely and inseparably con l nected. It was an impossible task, ,elucidating both questions together. Continuing he said The time is come when in duty and honor Parliament must come to some decisive reso- lution on the matter. Our intention is to propose to the House of Commons that ] which if happily accepted will liberate Par lament from the restraints under which of late years it has Intellectually strug- gled to perform the business of the country, and that which wilt restore legislation to it's natural and harmonious relations between Great Britain and Ireland (hear! hearD on footing of those free institutions to which Englishmen, Scotchmen ..and Irishmen alike are una1- terably attached. Loud cheers which were prolonged by the home rule members.)
 After reviewing the conditions of crime in Ireland since 1885 MT. Gladstone said coer- cion was admitted to be failure. For the past fifty-two years there had been only two wholly free from oppressive legislation. The basis of the whole mischief was that the law was discredited in Ireland. It came to them with foreign aspect and their alternative to coercion was to strip the law of it's foreign character and invest it with domestic char acter Uaud cheers from Irish mem bers) Ireland though represented numerically equal with England and Scotland, had not the same position. England by legislation made her own laws and Scotland had been encouraged to make her own laws effect ually as if she had six times the present rep resentation. The consequence was that the handspring of the law of both England and Scotland was felt to be English and Scotch. The handspring of the law in Ireland was not felt by the people to be Irish. Some thing was imperatively demanded from the government. It was demanded that they re- store in Ireland the first conditions of civil life, the free course of law, the liberty of every individual in the exercise of every le- gal right, the confidence of the law and the sympathy of the people with the law, apart from which no country can be called a civilized country. What, then, was the problem? It was this: How to recon cile imperial unity with a diversity of legis- latures. Mr. Grattan held that those pur- poses were reconcilable: more than that he
 
 with a view to the continuity and
 eGeg'S'ns pfs was 0h'E that or an 'as audAoious e paradox?" he asked. Other countries had solved the problem and under more difficult circumstances, and we ourselves might be said to have solved it with respect to Ireland during the time that Ireland had separate parliament. Did it destroy the unity of the British empires Loud cheers.) The claims of Ireland to make laws for her self were never denied until the reign or George II. The parliament of Grattan was as independent in point of authority as it could be. The government was not about to propose the repeal of the union. It was inn possible to propose the repeal of the union until they had settled what was the essence ! of the union; and he defined the essence of the union to be that before the existence of the union there were two inde- pendent parliaments, but after the forma- \ tion Of the union there was but one. To ! speak of the dismemberment of the empire | was in this century mlsnomer and an ab- surdity. The fault of the administrative | system of Ireland was that it's spring and source of action was English (cheers); the | government therefore felt that the settlement | of the question was to be found by establish ! ing a parliament in Ireland Cheers from the | Irish branches, for the conduct of legislative | and administrative matters.
 l The Premier said he would now pass to
 
 | to deal with Ireland as distinguished from l imperial affairs. (Hearl hearD He thought it would be perfectly clear that if Ireland was | to have domestic legislature, Irish peers l and Irish representatives could not come to 1 the House of Commons to control English ! and Scotch affairs. Then with regard to the | question whether Irish representatives should | come to the House of Commons | for the settlement of imperial affairs, he
 thought that could not be done. He had, l therefore, arrived at the conclusion that l Irish members and Irish peers ought not to | sit in the palace of Westminster. (Cries Oh! | OhD If Irish members were not to sit in the l House of Commons, Irish peers ought not to l sit in the other house of Parliament (cr1es Of Hear! Hear! and Ohl OhD How were the l Irish people to be taxed if they had legisla- l tors in both countries! He believed that | Great Britain would never impose upon l Ireland taxation without representation. If they were to have taxation without | representation then came another question | which raised practical difficulty; were they
 to give up that fiscal unity ef the emPlref l He did not think that by giving up the fiscal
 unity..of the empire they were giving up the l compiete unity of the empire. He, however, stood upon the substantial ground that to give up the fiscal unity of the empire would | be a public inconvenience and misfortune.
 It would be great misfortune TOT 1reat | Britain and greater misfortune Tor ireland He conceived that one escape from that di- l lemma would be such an arrangement as | would give authority to levy customs duties
 and sueh excise duties as were immediately
 connected with customs. The conditions of
 such an arrangement were that the general
 power of taxation over and above those par
 ticular duties should pass unequivooally into
 the hands of the domestic legislature in
 Ireland. Secondly, that the proceeds of GUS
 toms duties and excise should be held for the
 of Ireland and 4nd.9d flor .a1 the discharge ths
 ment of the balance after these obligations
 were discharged should be entered into the
 Irish excheqper and be for the free disposal of the Irish legislative body: The bill then provided that representatives of Ireland should no longer sit in the House of Com
 Lords, but at the me time theywould have the
 right of addressing the crown and so posses
 (Cries of ohl ohl and cheers.) It would there
 fore relieve the Irish members from attend
 ance at Westminster, and he had several req
 sons why this should be the case. Even if i
 were possible for them to do so they had { parliament of their own and it would be yer.
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