St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-06-02
FIGHTING HOME RULE.
The Great Debate on Gladstone's Measure
Opened in the House of Commons
Last Night.
Mr.. Joseph Chamberlain Makes Fierce
Onslaught on the Premiers Pet
Scheme.
russia, Despairing OF Chance to
Thrash Turkey, Turns an Eye
Toward India.
Inc Car VIII Not Much Longer De-
lay His Plans of Territorial
Conquest.
The Home Rule Deba,a-

LONDON, June debate on the home
RUE Dill III the house OF commons was re-
sunied thls afternoon by Joseph Chamber
lain. When he rose he was greeted with
uerlslYe cheers and bowls from the Irish
members. He denied the assertion made
ny EdWard Gray that he chamberlain
was the author of articles on the national
councils published in the FortnightIy Re-
view. Gray knew very well who the
author was and that the details of the arti-
Gle were from Irish sources. ST myself
possess" said he, ''incontroyertible and
lncontestible proof that eminent Ma
tionallst leaders approved the prin-
clple OF natianal councils.n Here the
Farnellltes uttered loud bowls and
cried out Names, Names" and the Con-
S S.Sa and Wings cheered Chamberlain.
1 Inc remuneration and the cheering quickly
became an uproar which lasted several
hlnutes. Chamberlain calmly folded his
arms and smilingly waited for the tumult
10 suDslde, but refused to mention the
names called for. Resuming, Chamberlain
at great length explained why he deemed
Giadstone's concessions inadequate, Those
VINO oppose the home rule measure believe
IL would prove most mischieveouS in its eff
1ect on Ireland and postpone for long
time WIG
A SATISFACTORY SETTLEMENT
OF the Irish question. Cries of hear,
hear. The speaker did not believe Clad.
stone would accept vote on the second
reading, understanding it would be received
only as an approval OF the abstract resolu-
ton that Ireland ought to have parliament
OF her own. Had the government SUBJ
mltted mere resolution affirming the prin-
clple OF legislative autonomy for Ireland he
CChamberlain) could have voted for it, be-
cause 1t would have been consistent either
WIN the creation of chamber
IKE the Grattan parliament or the estab-
iishment OF a legislative council such as
the speaker suggested and which ere now
had received the support of the NATIONAL
lists, (Cries from the Parnellites '.Names,
names.") The government proposal. how
ever, had stronger meaning than that of
mere abstract revolution, as it pledged the
house to the support of the principle of the
nome rule bill, from which Gladstone said he
would never depart. What they wanted
was to prevent the Irish members from be-
coming omnipotent either at Westminster
or Dublin. (Cheers and counter cheers.)
AS TO ULSTER,
That was very important matter. par
nellite laughterl He was convinced the
Protestants of Ulster had just cause to fear
attempts by Irish Catholics to secure
the predominance of the Cath
olic church. (Cries ''Oh, oh.")
Members from ireland say no. Here is a
pamphlet written by prime minister on
vaticanism laughter in which he says:
TO secure civil rights has been the aim of
Christian civilization, while to destroy
them and re-establish resistless domineering
action as central power is the aim of
Roman policy The time has come when
the government aught to say whether there
Is IN Ulster or in a portion of Ulster Thear,
hear.] such predominating sentiment as de-
serves separate consideration and whether
they will devise scheme to give the posi-
ton OF Ulster such consideration. TCheers.
he challenged the Irish supporters of the
bill to get up in Ireland and say they
favored the continued existence of the real
supremacy of the imperial parliament [Par-
nellite cheersl as it exists at present. Par
nellite cries, no, no. "Oh, now the house
sees the view of its Nationalist members.
They want to weaken that supremacy"
Mr.. Chamberlain was followed by Mr..
Sexton. The debate did not close for the
session until DAYLIGHT