The Daily bulletin. [volume] (Honolulu [Hawaii]) 1882-1895, 1886-05-18

that was true he would withdraw the
statement. Laughter This morn
ing return from His AIajesty's
Chamberlain, requested by a vote of
33 to 3, was presented, and whole
hour was spent discussing mo-
tion of the hon. member to lay it on
the table. The Ministers did not
object to this resolution. Last week
the hon. member told him he was
sick with q pain in his stomach. He
thought it would pay this Assembly
to fee the hon. members doctor for
keeping him sick.
The President announced that the
hon. member for Hama (Mr. Kaai)
had asked for leave of absence for a
week, owing to bereavement in his
family.
Rep. Brown rose to point of
order, whether the resolution must
not be disposed of before the house
could take any action on the motion
for proceeding with the order of the
day.
Noble Rhodes said the motion
must either fail altogether or be re-
newed.
The President put the motion for
the order of the day, which carried.
He then announced the third read
ing of an act to amend sec. 1, chap.
90, Penal Code (the Hawaiian YER
sion billy.
Rep. Aholo said the Appropriation
Bill was a special order for to-day.
Rep. Dickey moved the house go
into committee of the whole for the
consideration of the Appropriation
Bill. Carried.
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
Noble Cleghorn was called to the
chair and the house went into COM
mittee.
Interest on japanese fund. ....... $4,000
Noble Rhodes was still Of the
same opinion as on Friday, that be-
fore this vote there should be some
explanation from the Minister. In
the Finance Minister'S report there
was an item of some $4,000 as q
japanese fund. There was no doubt
that the money was received accord
ing to that report, and they had fur
ther confirmation on that subject by
expressions that fell from the Min
lister of Foreign Affairs, that money
had been paid back to parties depo-
sitting it.
Minister Gibson said he would
like the hon. noble to understand
that he had not had any transac-
tions in the matter. Some money
had been paid by order of the Jap
anese Consul, but he did not know
that any direct drafts had been
made on the treasury.
Noble Rhodes said he had the
impression that moneys had been
paid to parties who had deposited
it. They were asked for an appro-
priation of interest, yet there was
nothing to state that they were to
repay any part of that money in
the treasury. Therefore, there was
something that struck him as rather
irregular in the information of the
Ministers, and the sum itself ough,
to be provided for as well as the
interest. 1t might he said that this
fund takes the nature of deposit
with the Government, for which Ger.
tificates of deposit are given, ant
can be returned on presentation OF
such certificates; but he could moi
look upon it in that way. The
fourth section of the Appropriation
Bill defines especially that money
shall not be paid from the treasury
without authorization of law. II
those were not certificates of deposit
they should not be in the Appro
priation Bill, but as they were there
this sum appears as an asset of thu
country, and he should imagine tina
they could not :. be paid out agaiI
except by action of the Assembly
and if any of those sums had beer
paid to the japanese he should lik'
to ask what part the Auditor-Gen
eral had in paying them.
Minister Neumann said he hat
made some inquiries, but not enough
to answer the questions of the hon
noble who had just spoken, ant
that was as to what money hat
been paid out. He might safely
assume that none of that fund hat
been paid back yet, for two reasons
1st, if there had been any sucl
money paid out it would have ap
peared in the accounts of the Fl
nance Department; 2nd, the cir
cumstances under which that func
had been deposited led him to thinl
that none had been paid out. II,
had been informed by the Ministe
of Finance that since his repor
more had been paid in. There wa
no question that the paying in o
this money was the receipt of none,
paid to the Hawaiian Government
and that it assumed it, not as
special deposit but as security TO
the parties deposting it. One o
the hon. members stated that h
would like to know whether tn
Acknowledgement bad authorized
the treasury to receive this money
lie was aware that it was discussed
but although he was not asked TO
his advice he thought he had SAT-
that the Government was at perfec