The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-09-01
Hawaiian Parliament.
Legislative Assembly Nineteen
Day.
TUESDAY, August 3Ist.


Phe House met at 10 a. IN. Prayer by
the Chaplain The roll was called, the
following members answering to their
names: Their Excellencies Gibson, Creigh-
ton and Dare; Hons. CleghOrn, Kuihe-
lani, Bush, Kaae, Kapena, Walker, Mar
tin, Hayselden, Keau, Lilikalani. Baker,
Kauhi, Amara, Brown, Kaulia, Kaulukou,
Pahia, Nahale, Nahinu, Kauhane, Aholo,
Kaukau, Richardson, Castle, Dickey,
Kaai, PaehaOle, Kauai and PalOhau. The
minutes were read in Hawaiian and
English and approved.
BILLS ENGROssED.
Mr.. Richardson, from the Engrossing
Committee, reported the following bills
as engrossed: An Act to continue the
subsidy heretofore granted for mail com
munication between the Hawaiian Islands
and the United States of America; an
Act to amend sections 1 and of chapter
81 of the Session Laws of 1884. relating to
street railroads
PENSION BILLS.
Mr.. Keau moved that all the perma-
nent settlement and pension bills be taken
from the table and placed among the or
der of the day. Agreed to.
ORDER OF THE DAY.
Third reading of an Act to continue the
subsidy heretofore granted for mail com
munication between the Hawaiian Islands
and the United States of America.
Mr.. Keau moved the bill pass.
Mr. Kaunamano moved to strike out the
following clause in section 2: IS. That the
freight OH each bunch of bananas shall not
no
Der said that when the House begins to
dictate to the company about its rates for
freight, it was going step beyond its au-
thority. The House was trying to run the
steamers for the company. There was no
freight the company had so much trouble
with as bananas He therefore in
favor of striking out the clause. The House
ought not to interfere in the matter.
Mr. Keau said he was very much sur
prised TO hear Mr.. KaunamanO make the
motion He would like to know what in
fluence had been brought to bear to cause
him to move the clause be stricken out.
During the last two years 121 900 punches
had been carried from Honolulu to San
Francisco by this company. AT rs cents a
bunch, this would be 800, $50 the company
Hawaiians engaged in the banana bust
ness. They had been giving the Company
a large subsidy. If the company wanted q
subsidy they must come down to their
terms with regard to the freight on ba-
nanas The House ought to look after the
interests of these people engaged in this
business. The company had many free
privileges, which with the subsidy,
amounts to 100000 year. The dispOsi-
ton seemed to be to help strangers, and
not their own people. 1t looked as If the
members of the House had forgotten about
the interest of the people who had sent
them there If he had his own way he
would not give one cent of subsidy to the
company. If the House did impose this
reduction, the company would still be re-
ceiving about $40, 900 year for freight on
bananas alone This reduction will help
the banana raiser to cultivate more land,
and in time the company will be carrying
so many more punches as to make up any
loss. The interest of their own people
should be looked after first, and strangers
afterwards
Hon. Mr. Cleghorn said Mr.. Kauna-
rnano had spoken of the House having no
right to dictate rates. 1t was only on
bananas they were fixing the rates. There
was a fixed rate for sugar and also for pas
sengers The bananas were not well taken
care of on board the steamers, no tarpaulin
was placed over them, and as soon as they
ripened the passengers and crew helped
themselves and if stem was landed in
San Francisco it had to be paid for at the
same rate as a full bunch. All Govern
ments make stipulations with regard
to freight. 1t amounts to this, that If the
freight on bananas was continued at 80
cents a bunch, in a years time the Com
pany would hardly be carrying any at all.
He was not speaking against the agents,
who were his personal friends, for 1t would
he the same were it his own brother 1t
seemed strange that the House should not
Itconsider the interests of the small planter
was beyond his comprehension. He moved
the previous question, which was carried.
Mr.. Keau moved the ayes and noes be
taken. Agreed to.
The motion to strike out the clause,
That the freight on each bunch OF bananas
shall not exceed fifty cents" was carried by
the following vote:
Ayes-Gibson, Creighton, Dare, Wilder
Kapena, Martin, Maefarlane, 5. Parker
HayseIden, Amara, KanlnkOu, Pahia,
Kaunamano, Nahale, Nahum, kaukau'
Kaai, Kauai. Palohau-l9.
Noes-Bishop, Cleghorn, kuihelani,
Dowsett, Bush, Kaae. Keau, Lilikalani,
Kauhi, Kaulia, Wight, Kauhane, Castle,
Dickey, Thurston, Paehaole, Doie-i7.
Mr.. Dickey moved an amendment re-
Iating to the sailing OF the steamers. but
it was lost.
Mr.. Kaulukou moved that section pass
as amended.
Hon. Mr.. Cleghorn moved chat section l
be amended so as to read 'S1 ,25O, instead
of 81, 800.
Mr.. Thurston thought that was a proper
amendment Several members had voted