Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-04-23

talk with him on the whole subject. He
brought Mr.. Powderly to my hOuse on
Sunday, March 2S. AT the time OF that
interview the road was in tull operation
at all points except Fort Worth, Tex,
and Parsons, Kan. | met Mr.. Powderly
and Mr.. Mcdowell at my house on sun
day and had frank talk with them. Mr..
POwderly's secret circular (so-called)
had been issued, and my motive in seeing
him was to brace him up, because the SEN
tlments expressed in that circular were so
different from the acts of the association
that / thought he needed bracing up.
NEEDED BRACING UP.
'They brought up the question
Of arbitration, which had been
covered by the correspondence,
and which had very firmly
declined. never was more positive in
my life than l was when | made that de-
clination. We talked up to O'clock my
dinner hOur) and told Mr.. Powderly and
Mr.. Mcdowell to come back that night.
They came back al night and we resumed
our talk. Mr.. Powderly said 10 me:
those men out there l want to talk with
YOU frankly are in rebellion to our order.
They struck without cause, and have it
in contemplation tomorrow to vindicate
myself by Issuing an order taking away
their charter
GOULD ALSO FRANK.
81 said: 'Mr. Powderly. you have been
so frank with me, now ! will be equally
frank with you. Now l will read you
dispatch which l have prepared to send
to Mr.. HOXie. | get down town tO-mOr-
row morning at $3.50 O'Clock, and | VIII
send it them l took out of my pocket
and read to him my dispatch to Mr..
Hoxie. directing preference in employ
ment TO be given to late employees, whetb-
er Knights of Labor or not. Now do not
know how that can be twisted
so as to make it mean something
different from what 1t says.
read it over to Mr.. Powderly just as
distinctly as | have read it to the COM
mittee. Mr.. Powderly SAID: Il approve
Of that, and it will help me if you will
give me a copy Of It, l said: Certainly,
l will do that That brought our inter-
view to a close. | went upstairs and
copied the dispatch in note addressed to
Mr.. POwderly and gave it to MIR. Mellow
ell to deliver to him.
NO RIGHT TO PUBLISH IT.
There was no right on the part of Mr..
Mcdowell or of MIR. Powderiy to give the
dispatch to the public until l had put IL
into Mr.. HoXie's hands. They went out
of town and changed the whole pro-
gramme. The next morning the newspa-
ing on the part of Mr.. POwderly, M.
Gould has consented to our plan of arbi-
tratiOn.' That was published broad
cast. II was utterly untrue
utterly untrue. AS for the quest on of
arbitration l have always been in favor of
arbitration. 1t has been rather kind of
hobby of mine, and therefore l said in my
dispatch to Mr.. HOXie we see no Objec-
tion to arbitration
THE LETTER OF INSTRUCTIONS.
Mr.. Gould here read stenographic notes
Of the interview between him and Mr..
Powderly and he continued: II believe
tfat in the investigation yesterday, there
was reference to a letter OF instructions.
There was no letter sent except the Pow
deTly letter. What Mr.. HoXie meant by
the letter of instructions was my letter
addressed to Mr.. POwderly which he, saw
in the newspapers that morning. OF
course he referred to that. l want TO say
very distinctly that there have been no
instructions issued other than those en-
bodied in that letter. They have been
lived up to by the company from tnat time
TO this"
Mr.. Crain-You say distinctly that there
were no secret instructions?
NO SECRET INSTRUCTIONS.
Mr.. Gould-There were no secret i'm
structiOns. On the contrary, we have
lived right up to my letter to Mr.. Pow
derby, Notwithstanding all the provoca-
tiOn we have received.
Mr.. Gould here read various kilograms
and CORES pOndence which have been
already made public, including the pro-
clamatiOn of March %, issued by the
Executive Board of the district assem-
bles at st. Louis, cO1gratulating the
Knights Of Labor on their victory, and on
their manhood and the fortitude shown
by them. lie said that was the address
which was issued on March % when
every thing seemed to be lovely. The
next address that was issued by them
was one issued on April addressed
to the workingmen of the world Mr..
Gould read the address in a tone Of sar-
casm, but not without visible emotion.
IL was one in which be is spoken OF as the
giant Of incorporated wealth. every dol
lar OF which was built on blood, injustice
and outrage, He said: That is the re-
sDOnse which three assemblies Of the
Knights OF Labor made to our continuing
hand of fellowship which we had held out
to them.
OPERATING THE ROAD.
We commenced operating our road, as
said. when | met Mr.. POwderlv. On
Sunday the whole system was in opera
tiOn, except at Parsons and Fort w orth.
our earnings iOr the Nr6t week OF Aprli
were equalito the same week last yea, and
the earnings Oi the second week in April
were 36, 900 more than m the corresuond
ing week last year. From that, as | said
at the beginning OF my remarks, it seemed
90 me shat the resolution under which the
committee Is acting does not really apply
TO the Missouri Pacific railroad.
Mr.. Burnes- Have you any other docu-
ments that you wish to submit?
Mr.. Could have received several Of
this sort ] only read this one because il
is an order emanatiDg from three lodges
that govern the Missouri Pacific system.
The Cbairman-We will accept that as
specimen Of wOrkinemen's literature.
URGED TO PUSH THE STRIKE.
Mr.. Could have just received a tele-
gram from Mr.. lIoXie stating that the st.
Louis uapers to-day publish this dispatch
sent from mere yesterday: "Push the
strike. We have plenty of money carry
10 through. JOnn HAYES" Hayes is,
believe. one OF the Executive Committee
Of the Knights Of LABOR. He is the same
man who addressed the dispatch 10 me
holding me responsible for the murders
IN East -. Louis.
Mr.. Burnes-lt is hardly proper TO put
that in evidence now. ~ Is mere hear
say. The matter will be investigated
when WE get 10 st. Louis.
Mr. Gould-Then / withdraw IT,.
Mr.. Burns-lou spoke Of the resolution
OF the Board OF Direc JOrs OF the Missouri
Pacific railroad, win reference 90 the du-
tipa and nOWpra Of Mr. Hoxfo Did you