St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-04-10

between this country and Ireland was one
which 1t would be absolutely impossible for
them TO make themselves parties to.
lcheers The distinguishing feature OF the
act of union was the creation of one sover-
eign legislature, which was to be the sole
legislative body for the kingdoms of Great
Britain and Ireland, and it was the king
dom thus legislatively united that was
meant when they spoke of the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
cheersl. The country, he said, had no
sufficient warning and it had
NO WARNING
at all that any proposals of the magnitude
and vastness OF those which were explained
last night were TO be considered in the
present parliament, much less that they
were to form the first subject for consider
alton. Cheers The house of commons had
no moral right to initiate legislation of
which constituencies had not been pre-
viously informed. The result OF the last
election was not altogether what had been
expected. The present triumph OF the
Liberal party was not as complete as had
been anticipated. and if it had been known
that the first work of the new parliament
aud the liberal ministry was to be the en-
tire re-settlement eff the legislative relations
between England and Ireland, it was i'm
possible to say the result might
not have been the return of a large Con-
servative majority. Opposition cheers.
If the proposals of the prime minister were
accepted by the Irish members it would
only give them vantage ground for demand
ing fresh concessions, Whatever might be
the fate of the measure its introduction by
a responsible minister would have done
much that could never be recalled.
Cheers. This measure would henceforth
be the minimum of Irish demand. Ii, as
he thought likely, it did not command the
support of the people of the country, its
Introduction without adequate consideration
or preparation would have added vastly to
the great difficulties of the future govern
ment of Ireland Cheers. He could not
believe the people of England would con-
sent TO
THE LOYAL MINORITY
in Ireland being handed over to the major
ity without more effectual and more ade-
quate protection than was afforded by the
provisions of this bill. Loud cheers. If
the scheme was good for Ireland it was
good equally for Scotland and Wales. If
the latter demanded domestic legislatures
of their own and the demand was conceded
the result would be there would be house
of parliament with every Scotch and Welsh
islature for the whole of the United King
dom. Cheers. If the people or England
and Scotland thought injustice was being
done to the minority in Ireland that mi
nority would not appeal to them in vain,
and he feared that in that way this bill, in
| tr0duced in the interests of peace, was likely
10 occasion more serious disturbance than
any that had yet arisen. We cannot escape
from responsibility by the delegation to
another body of executive power which we
know would be used by it in a manner we
should condemn.
Continuing, he said now that the people
had been brought face to face with the al
tentative of disruption of the empire or
evils and calamities that would follow
from the rejection of this scheme, they
would, he believed, require that their rep
reSentatives should in relation to Irish
affairs agree to sink all minor differences
| Opposition cheers and unite as one man
To hand down to their successors the great
empire
COMPACT AND COMPLETE
as they inherited and maintain it through
out its length and breadth. undisputed
supremacy of the law. Lord Hartington's
speech met with better reception than did
that of Chamberlain. John Morley, on
| rising, was greeted with vocferous cheers
by the Parnellites. He said the debate to-
night had been painful one and he little
| thought at the last election he would be
called upon in parliament to yindicate his
position against two of his oldest comrades
in political arms, but the occasion had
come and he agreed that the crisis
found with them was they did not know
what the suppression OF the national
league was. The failure of the policy
of the present ministry would be the signal
for the necessity of dealing with the league.
That was not to be done by pen and ink
proclamation. 1t would mean the passing
OF a coercion act giving the executive in
| Ireland power to suppress meetings, arrest
persons on suspicion, enter houses, and it
would be necessary to lock up good many
priests. He called upon Lord Harrington
| for statement as to how he would propose
to rescue the country from renewal of the
| past policy OF vacillatiOn, alternate hesita-
| ton and precioitancy. The proposals of the
ministry were. in their opinion, the only
lines on which, under the system of
FREE AND POPULAR
/ Institutions, the government Of Ireland
could possibly be carried on, and he Nor
/ ley) believed Irish legislation would be as
capable as one in which private feeling
must yield to public consideration, though
he had little to fear. In ransacking of past
utterances about Ireland he thought il
would be better for purposes of high con-
stitutional debate to pass a great amnesty
and abstain from an attempt to prove DO
lltical inconsistency. If members of par
lament thought so i'll of the people of
Ireland as to think they would be in SYM
pathy with burglars and conspirators, let
them not talk about free institutions. Let
8
say boldly what many of them thought,
that Irishmen were not fit for self-govern-
ment and not ripe for representative insti-
tutions. Liberal as he was, Radical as he
was, he would rather go up in lines of strong
repression than proceed upon the policy that
had been pursued for the last fifty years.
Neither Chamberlain nor Harrington ap-
peared to realize that the immediate and
pressing problem before parliament was
how Ireland was to be governed He re-
gretted that Chamberlain should have
thought il necessary to have referred to
Gladstone's statement during the civil wal
in the United States that the South made
nation that was
MISTAKEN IN JUDGMENT.
On great historical occasion, but his
tory would judge it very leniently when il
looked back upon Italy, Greecet and Bull
garia- and now upon Ireland. As to the
course which Chamberlin advised should be
pursued in preference to the scheme of the
government. it was the most extraordin-
airy proposal ever made by a person OF
Chamberlam's eminence and character.
Preliminary measures would not pass in q
hurry, and when passed they were only
to prepare the way for a scheme
of federation which only existed in Cham
herlain's acrive and energetic hrain The