New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-06-12
PARNELL ON CARNARVON.
REFRESHING THE EARES Memoir z.
THE HOME RULE BILL WHICH THE TORIES
HAD IN MIND.
AN OPEN LETTER FROM THE IRISH LEADER-HE
MET LORD cARNARvON AT THE LATTER's RE-
QuEsr-TBE TORIES DENOUNCED FOR
VIOLATING THEIR PROMISES.

SCESi-IHE TORIES DENOUNCED FOX
VIOLATING THEIR PROMISES.
trr CABLE TO THE TRrBUNE.1
Copyright; 1886 North american Gable Yeus Co.
LONDON, June 11.-Mr Parnell has written
reply to the speech made by the Earl of Carnarvon
in the House of Lords yesterday. The letter will
be published here tomorrow. A copy Of it has
been furnished the representative OF The TRIBUNE.
The controversy grew out of the fact that on Mon
day Mr. Parnel in the House of Com
mons charged that the Conservative party
secured Irish support by promising through
Cabinet Minister to introduce Home Rule bill,
including the right of Ireland to levy protective
tariff In response to this Lord Carnarvon, ac-
knowedging himself to be the Minister alluded
to, declared that he held conversation with Mr.
Parnell at the lattcrs request and that the
conversation was not in any sense official. He re-
pudiated the statement that he acted in the
capacity Of a member of the Government.
Mr. Parnell replies By denying that he
asked for conversation with Lord Carnar-
| von. The meeting was at the latters sug-
gestion and was had at Lord Carnarvon's own
house because Mr.. ParnelI would not consent to 90
to the house of third person. He declares that
Lord Carnarvon was in substantial agree
ment with him on the question of Irish
! Home Rule and the question Of pro-
lection for certain Irish industries against the
competition Of England, that the members of
Lord Salisbury's Government tacltly accepted
these principles aud then repudiated the agreement
by which they had gained Irish support. Mr. Par
neil writes as follows:
| My reference in the House of Commons on Monday
| explanatory OF which induced passages in my
speech at Wickow last year regarding protection mas
called from Lord Carnarvon lengthy explanation re-
pardng my interview with him in July, as to which he
makes certain positive but chiefly series OF negative,
It Elements. IL Will, think be generally considered
desirable that positive information he given TO the
pahc egsriing tho details OF that intervew, that
deficiencies LETT by Lord Carnarvon should he suI pe-
mented and that should say how far my recollection
concdcs with him. But, first, 1t will be convenient
should recall to mind the reference which made
Monday TO NY Wicklow speech to which controversy
at frat with Sir Michael Hicks Beach and now with Lord
| Caruarvon. has arisen 1t WIS as follows;
| That speech at Wicklow about protection was
delivered at a time when we had every reason to believe
that The Conservative party II they should have been
successful at the polls would have offered Ireland stat
uory legislature with the right to protect her own In
dusres and that this could have bccu coupled with
of the land question on the basis OF purchase
larger scale than that now proposed by the Prime
| Minister"
What have TO tell concerning the interview of
July WILL think held TO fully justify that reference.
regret that am obliged TO commence the recital by
differing with Lord CarDaryon poin-bank as to matter
OF TACT He says in hs explanation that toward the end
OF last July 1t intimated to him that II he were
Will. e should also be willing TO meet him In conver-
satlon; In other words, that sought Interview Now
This positively deny. matter OF fact the meeting
was brought about by an iumaton being conveyed TO
Inc exactly to that which Lord Carnarvon
alleges conveyed to HIM In this connection may
mention that Lord Carnarvon originally proposed that
! should meet him at tho house OF gentleman now
promncnt Conservative Member OF Parliament, who
subsequently undertook mission to Ireland ana OBJ
aincd letters OF Introduction to several leading members
] OF the irish Parliamentary party with whom he DIS
Gus sed in detail 81 eces of Trsh Parliament that
would be acceptable to Ireland Iiecned however, 10
mset Lord Caruarvon ut the house OF stranger, and
suggested that if tho interview to take place at all,
Il had best lie at his own residence must also lake
issue regarding the correctness OF Lord Carnarvons
memory, as two OF the three conditions when ne
alleges he stated to as the conditions upon which he
could enter into any conversation with me; namely,
that tire; all he acting OF himself by himself and
| that the responsibility his ard communications
| were from himself alone and secondly, that he was
there as the Queens and that he would neither
hear nor say word that was inconsistent with the
|
| conditions. Now, Lord Carnarvon did not lay down
any conditions whatever preliminary TO his entering
into conversation with It must be manifest that II
he desired to do so lie would have intimated them,
when questng the interview. He certainly made no
use whatever of the terms of the two conditions which
have repeated.
| There is. however, foundation for his
Abatement concerning the remaining one, inasmuch
he undoubtedly remarked at tho commencement that he
hoped would understand that we were not engaged In
making any treaty or bargain Whatever Lord Carnar-
uon then proceeded that he had sought this inter-
view for purpose OF ascertanDg views regarding
should he call it constitution for Ireland. but soon
found that he had brought there in order that he
might communicate his own views upon tuls matter as
well as to ascertain mne readily opened my mind to
| him this subject and In reply TO an inquiry
| a. TO a proposal which had been made to build
up central legislature upon the foundation OF county
boards told him thought this would be working IL
the wrong direction and would be accepted set
tlement by Ireland. that central legislative pohy
should parliament In and In fact. and that to
this body should be left the construction OF whatever
,ysem OF local government for the counties might be
found necessary Lord Carnarvon then assured me that
| this was his view also and that ho strongly APP
precated tho Importance OF giving due weight TO the
| sentment OF the Irish in this matter He then
inquired whether, IN my Judgment some plan Tor con-
sttutiug Parlislent IN Dublin short OF repeal OF the
union might - devised and prove acceptable TO
Ireland and he made certain suggestions to this end,
taking the colonial model basis which struck mo as
being the result Of thought and knowledge Of the
subject
Then came the reference protection. We dis
cussng the general outlines OF plan for constituting
Legislature for Ireland on the colonial model when
ook to remark that protection for certain Irish
| industres against English and foreign competition
would be absolutely necessary, upon which Lord Carnar-
Won said:
"I entirely agree with you. but what row there Will
| be about IL in England"
AT the conclusion OF the conversation. which lasted
mara than An hour AMI to vh.ch Lord Caruarvon was
very much the larger contributor. left him. believing
thn, was in complete accord with him regarding the
main outline Of the settlement comforting Legislature
upon Ireland In conversipg with him dealt with the