The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-07-10


1t was due the lepers the House should go
There were complaints without founda-
ton and complaints with foundation.
Therefore he extended the invitation to the
Ministers. Mobiles and Representatives.
Mr.. Kaulukou, as Representative, said
he was very much obliged for the invita-
ton.
/ Mr.. Kalua said il was not now necessary
for the committee TO ger boat, SO he
moved the resolution be laid upon the
table
! Mr. Thurston said he did not object to it
/ being laid upon the table now that there
! was some prospect OF the Settlement being
| visited.
| Mr. Kaluas motion was put and car
ried.
ORDER OF THE DAY.
! Mr.. Aholo moved the order of the day.
! Carried.
/ Consideration of the Appropriation bill
| i'll Committee of the Whole, Hon. J. NJ.
kapena in the chair.
BUREAU OF ROADS AND BRIDGES.
Pay of Road Supervisors, SIS, 600.
Mr.. Thurston moved this item be passed
for the present, as there were three bills
before the House to abolish the Office of
Road upervisor-in-Chief, and they were
in u fair way to pass.
The motion prevailed
Road tax, unexpended to be expended
in districts where collected, $67 1916 II.
Mr.. Thurston thought time would be
saved if the consideration of this item was
deferred for the same reason he had just
stated
Mr.. Dickey favored the motion because
there was an error in the amount. 1t
should be $50, OOO
Mr.. Richardson said the consideration of
those bills would not affect this item. He
moved it pass AS i'll the bill.
Hon. Mr.. Wilder could see no reason for
deferring the item. This amount is trust
money and should have been expended in
the districts where collected and not for
any other purpose. 1t is debt due by the
Government to the districts where the
money was collected, and the late Minister
of the Interior knew full well that he had
no right to spend it only as prescribed
by law. He moved it pass as in the bill
and be expended as the law states.
Mr. Thurston agreed perfectly well with
the honorable Mobiles remarks. He
moved the postponing of the item, not for
the purpose of cOnd0ning the offense as
set forth by the honorable member, but
simply to save time.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said he could
see there were obligations due to certain
districts, and the amount should be voted
by the House.
Mr. Kalaa said that if the money col
lected in the district of Wailuku had been
spent there they would have good roads.
He would like to know where the $67 1916 II
is. He supposed it was in the Treasury
bagged up.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson presumed
this was money spent for other objects,
and consequently an obligation of the Coy
eminent to the districts.
Mr.. Thurston asked by what authority
had the Government spent that money for
other purposes than roads?
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson in answer
said that the Appropriation bill of 1884
amounted to over So 900 900, far more than
the revenue was supposed to be. The
Minister of the Interior had probably, in
the exercise of his discretion, with an APP |
preparation bill far In excess of the reve-
he thought necessary. On Wednesday !
last the members of this House added |
$4S 900 to the Appropriation bill. 1t was
just possible this authorization of the |
House may exceed the revenue.
Mr.. Thursten said he had listened to the |
tale of woe and sorrow from the Govern
ment, but his question had not been an
swe-ed. 1t was no use asking questions;
he could not get an answer; therefore he |
would answer it himself. 1t was just
this: the Government got into debt. and
having some trust money on hand. after
borrowing all they could. deliberately stole
this trust money and paid their debts.
Mr. Kalua said it was evident there was
no money in the Treasury, and he did not
think there was any use in discussing the
matter now. He asked whether the Gov
eminent had provided any means to pay
these debts to the districts.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said the reve-
nue. of the Government is received in two
years, and not in day, month or a year.
PROFESSIONALLY money will be paid out as
received.
Hon Mr. Bishop did not see any reason
for deferring the item. He thought Mr..
Dickey should state the correct amount
1t looks as if it had been figured out very
carefully.
Mr. Dickey said he had discovered an
error of SIC, 1868 81. which would swell the
amount to $40, 7l5 OF. He moved the item
pass at $685. 600
Mr. Brown believed in leaving the figure
as in the bill, for all the good the districts
would ever get out of it. So far as he was
concerned, he was willing the whole item
should be struck out. This money was
collected in the districts and should have
been spent there, but il had not been done.
In Koolauloa, the district he represented,
money was spent on the roads only week
before the election. The same in the dis
trict of Hama Maui.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare raised point
of order. The only question before the
House was whether this item should be
now or deferred. He did not
raise the point to prevent the members
having the opportunity of speaking, but to
have discussion proceed according to par
liamentary practice,
The motion to defer the item was then
put and lost.