Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-06-08

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not help thinking, while listening to his
speech, that IN all the lost causes where
with l have seen him connected during
many years past, be was never so little
eff ectve as when contending against the
bill we hope to read a second time to-
night. [Cheers.
OUTRAGEs DENOUNCED.
Mr.. Goshen sought, l think, very un-
fairly to cast lurid light on the situa-
tion by his allusion to those unhappy
outrages in Kerry. l join in the express
sion Of contempt for those cOwardly, dis
graceful practices. l join him TO the fullest
extent. T"Hearw "Hearu"1 But neither
do l say that because evictiOns have been
more numerous in Kerry than ali the rest
of Munster put together during months
past that they constitute an excuse for
these outrages, or any excuse Tor
outrage, though it may supply us
with the cause of them. But
when l denounce outrages L denounce
them in every part of Ireland, whether
in Ulster or in Kerry ["HearV "HearP'l j.
Mr.. Goschen is certainly free from re-
prOach. He has not joined Churchill and
Chamberlain in the use of reckless Ian
guage with reference to the affairs of a
country which is not their country,
[cheersl, ansinterierence for which they
have not the paltry excuse that 1t is any
business of theirs or that they had any
interest there.
INCORRECT RESPONSIBILITY.
NY colleagues have in times past been
reproached because they have not been
careful in looking at the eject Of their
language, and the doctrine OF indirect re-
spOnsibility has been employed against
them to the extent of imprisonment. IL
that doctrine of indirect responsibility
~ ~
Mr.. Chamberlain,IMr Churchill ought
to plead the excuse that he be-
lieves in nothing and nobody but
himself. so that ne could not expect any
great Importance to be attached TO his
declarations. lCheers and laughter
While Mr.. Chamberlain might have said,
and SAID very truly, that he was absO-
lutely ignorant OF all the circumstances
Of Ireland, his celebrated projected visit
there last autumn not having come off,
he really could not know what would be
the effect OF his language. Cheers.l
THE BELFAST MURDER.
However, we have the result now in one
murder already committed in Belfast, ana
l trust that IN the future members will re-
member the Importance and gravity OF the
occurrences which may follow in Ulster.
Those occurrences cannot 20 further at
tion, but they will depend very much upon
what is said on this subject, and the
amount of Importance given to the dOings
OF the Ulster men. We do say
and admit that these occur
rences are to be condemned and
should be stopped. But while Mr..
Churchill and MIR. GOschen say they
must be put an end to by resorting to CO.
ercion, which he and bis friends have
hn Iac
would say with Mr.. Gladstone, try the
effect Of self government. Cheers.
WILL STOP VIOLENCE.
Then if the Kerrymen resort to outrage
they will very soon find that the rest Of
Ireland will put stop to it. Renewed
cheers. Mr.. GOschen referred to the re-
cent events in Belfast, but before deal
with that terrible matter L wish to give
an explanation, because, as usual, one Of
the English newspapers has perverted for
their own purposes whatl believe actually
took place. Irish cheers. / am pained
to see that the struggle is alleged to have
arisen out OF an expression used by a
Catholic to fellow workman who was a
Protestant to the effect that in a short
time none of his persuasion would be al.
lowed TO earn crust of bread in Ireland.
THE TRUE STORY.
That, however, docs not accurately rep
resent all the facts as reported in the local
newspapers. Cheers and counter cheers.
According to them what took place was
this: The overseer of the works found
fault with the way In which an Orange
man, or at all events Protestant work
man, was digging drain. The Overseer
said, THAT is a nice way TO do work"
WhereupOn the 0rangeman replied to the
overseer, who happened to be Catholic: /:
"What does Papist know about digging
drainsr Laughter.
THE oVERsKER IRRITATED.
The overseer, irritated-I do not say
Justly irritated, because it was absurd for
him to have been Irritated by such a re-
mark-said to the Orangeman: "You will
never earn a crust on these works again."
meaning that he was dismissed. There
upon the Orangeman took his shovel and
left his work. believe that as he was 90
ing out he was assaulted by one or more OF
the wOrkmen. Derisive laughter 1t is
very difficult 10 know what actually took
place, but it is of great Importance that
the House understand that the remark in
question had not "A general application
but only an individual one. IParnellite
cheers.l / do not attempt to justiiy the
occurrence, because 1t was a very sad
one.
NATURE OF THE PARLIAMENT.
Mr.. G0schen spoke about the sOver-
eighty of Parliament. Upon this point
! agree with the definition given by Mr..
Bryce. TCheers.l We know perfectly
well, we have always known since this
bill was introduced, the difference between
a coordinate aud subordinate Parlia-
ment. Cheers. We know that the
legislature which the Premier wishes TO
constitute is subordinate Parliament,
not like Grattan's, which was cOequal
(Mr. Giadetone: "Hearl hearw) arising
out of the same constitution and in the
same manner as this Parliament, given
by a sovereign. Ministerial cheers.
PREFERRED THE GRATTAN PARLIAMENT.
/ understand this perfectly we'll ana
we should undoubtedly have preferred, az
| stated on the Introduction OF the bill, az
showing that ! could not accept this as a
final settlement Of the question, We should
have preferred the restitution Of Grattan's
Parliament. Parnellite cheers IL
would have been more In accord with the
sentiments OF the irish people,
and sentiment goes long way
with people like the Irish. Cheers. /
AT the same time | am bound
TO say that preferred the Grattan Par-
liament,there are practical advantages in
the proposals before us which limit and
subordinate this Parliament 10 that In
greater advantage 10 the Irish people
than a Parliament like Grattan's. and is
much more likely 10 be a final settlement
Of the question. Cheers.
/ understand perfectly we'll that the
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