The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1886-06-29


to do with the introduction Of japanese into .ne
country, that is if the Minister of Foreign
Affairs was TO be believed. and be 1.-THE speaker
could not understand why they paid boHi.s.
Representative Thurston said it looked to him
as though there was a big ''nigger IN the fence
Just here. This japanese business all through ~ :.
some remarkable entries: The sum OF SoVSoio.oo
had been paid to Mr.. II. W. Irwin as per ACCOUNT
rendered on fle' There no further Informs
tio and he could not say whether that was correct
There was 10 necessity for any middle man VINO
should reap a harvest from the Government MI
K. W.. Irwin was a capable maH and highly
thought of by the Japanese Government. Inc
first lot Of Japs brought by that gentleman mad 40
mention Of fees or commissions de mad Deen
told that tho commission now was IS to STU per
head for each immigrant Messrs. W. Irwin q
Co. really bad nothing to do with the matter, but
this firm, consisting of VIM. g. Irwin and Claus
Spreckels. have made $t0,s69.77 out OF it. On
page 50 of the Interior Report there is mention of
4 straight bonus of $3.50. They had received
two bonuses of $3.50 and $3.50, and be would
like 10 know what they had done for those
| amounts any more than he did. In addition to
| those sums, Irwin & Co. have been paid S66lS9
| commission for negotiating exchange. then they
receive an additional commission for the exchange
after negotiationl Before the House goes any
further, it ought to have these matters fully ex-
| planned On its face it looks as il there had
been deliberate put-up job between Irwin Co.
| and the Government.
+ The Minister of Foreign Affairs said, he was
not President of the Board of immigration and
was sorry that official was not there, he had, how
ever, some knowledge of the matter and 1t might
be appropriate for HIM to give such information
! As lie coald. He would remark that there was no
! item under consideration for the promotion OF
Immigration, or for the purpose OF bringing IN
| japanese. Should such measure, to bring more
japanese here be proposed later II might De pro
per then to consider that question. With regard TO
the middle men. here we're large transactions and
| credits, and II was important for the Government
| to have a financial agent. 1t was necessary for
the agents to receive something for the risk in
| Cured and The advances made. The item before
the Assembly was the current expenses OF the
Board of Immigration, and for that object II was
first of all considered necessary to devote Slo,2OO,
| but it was reduced by the Ministry to $l5OOO IN
! the revised estimates One of the items was for
| the Inspector General, not of japanese, but all
| immigrants There was also an Inspector for the
| trouble-ho wished all who came would give as
| little tronble-but having an agent for the Por-
tuguese they had TO give him something. 1t was
| different with the japanese, whose Government
had made 1t col-1itiel Vi tneir coming here that
they should have Inspector. There were no
pressure, however-no more than there was pres
| sure at Washington in having this Government
concede certain point in the reciprocity treaty
! but there were two parties to agreement and
one of them must sometimes make concessions.
| They had to make provision for an Inspector for
the Japanese $1,000 of this amount was required
1 for the salary of the Inspector General, 200
for the japanese Inspector, and 5000 for certain
other expenees of the Board. The House could
| cut down this sum- it could prevent them employ
| ing a Japanese Inspector, but that would be in
| contravention of the treaty with Japan.
| Representative Kaua said if the House went on
discussing this item as 1t stood he was afraid 1t
| would not land he was in favor of dividing IL
up. He therefore moved to insert :" Inspector of
| immigration 5000"
Representative Kaunamano moved to insert,
'Inspector- General, 5000; Japanese Interpreter,
| $500; Ircidentals $1,000" total $1,000
representative Keau offered an amendment TO
add "Secratary, 5000 y total Sl0,600.
Representative kaulukou said he did not know
I af.s 4
He was not ready to vote the appropriation of
5000 for the Inspector General. He was in favor
Of the S4,0OO They were bound to pay the Japanese
Inspector something by treaty. He moved to in
sert $4,000, the Secretary of the Board, $1,000,
and for Incidentals $1,000.
Representative Thurston glad TO see the
member from Hilo over on his ground, in favor of
reducing items and hoped he would stay there
during the session. There ought to be an inspec-
tor OF Immigrants, but that inspector ought to be
an Inspector and not fgurehead. He did not
wish TO say anything IN derogation OF their chair
man (CleghOfn) or to hurt his feelings, but he
must say as Representative, that he did not
think that office had been filed it should have
been. lie had heard, and he knew himself, that
when the Inspector-General had gone round the
Islands he had done good work, but he does not
go round often enough In order that the office
might be properly filled he moved the following
amendment, SALARY Inspector-General 5000,
the inspector TO make the tour of the Islands once
10 six MONTHS
The Attorney General also regretted that the
Minister of Interior, who had this matter in
charge, was not there to give information. He
did not approve of the House appropriating so
much for this and so much for the other purpose
without hearing explanation from the Minister who
had 1t IN charge. lie had not examined into the
particulars of the item because he did not con.
slider 1t was in his province, but he was confident
the Minister of Interior had considered it and re-
commended it because he thought it was neces-
sary. The question was whether these officers
were necessary and, if so, whether they should be
paid. In the course of his tenure of office, he
had occasion to look into this matter, and while
the present lnspector-General might not have done
ALL he could he had done much. It ought to take
more of the time of the incumbent. but if he
would devote his whole time to it $1,000 was very
small pay. He ventured to say the member for
Molokai would not take the office for that. For
that office was important, and so the inspect
orship of Japauese-important to the greatest in
terest of the country, the sugar plantations. The
greatest need of the country was labor that
would adapt itself to the demand and accept such
pay would correspond to the circumstances of
employers. Eight hundred thousand dollars had
been saved to the country by the japanese, and
ever since they had come here the Chinese had
been endeayoring to stir up and foment trouble SO
as to drive them out. That was fact That was
the reason why he asked the house not to hamper
the arrangement but to help it along.
Representative Brown said, the Minister wanted
to give the inspector of Japanese $1,000. He did
not think this inspector would have rs much to
do as the inspector of all other immigrants An
other thing the Ministers were there to keep the
laws and not to break them; There is statute
on the books that no was to be paid a salary
unless he was Hawaiian subject.
The Acknowledgement asked the speaker if Mr..
Lee Chan, the Chinese interpreter, a citizen.
Representative Brown thought that the Minister
himself should know, he did not. All he knew
was that the Minister of the Interior said the jap
anese Inspector was not citizen.
Minister Neumann asked if it might not be ne
cessary sometimes 10 employ a good man as an
officer who was not willing to become a citizen.
Representative Brown: Yes but he can be
fNuuH LOT of Ia
fault could be found with this Japanese Inspector,
as with their respected chairman. There we're
several Japanese doctors going round the country.
The Hawaiian people had to pay for all these |
officials and he thought the wishes of the tax
payers should be consulted. The treaty obliga |
tions was that they should have japanese In
spector. They had sent n man heIe aud we had to |
pay for him, we had to foot the bills Therefore |
he said, How much?p He was in favor of re- |
during that item TO $4,000.
The amendment to consider tho items separately |
was put and carried, and the following items were
approved:
Salary Inspector-G eneral Of Immigrants to make
tour of the islands every months. 900
Salary Secretary Board Of Immigration 1000
The item relating to "Incideutalsn caused fur
Their argument during which Rep. Castle desired |
some explanation about the South Sea Island bus
mess. The poor fellows hung about the streets of
the city for months, years some of them, and |
some died here. They came here on the solemn |
promise that were to be returned on the compile |
ton of their contracts Yet many were compelled |
to remain for months after. AT course it was a |
solemn obligation of the Government. The ques-
ton Is, were they all returned yet
The Minister of Foreign Affairs said that Rep. |
Castle was correct as regarded the promise, but he
had exaggerated to the time the people were de-
tanned. 1t was not years, although it was a good |
many months. This was matter of much anxiety |
to the Government, not only account of the poor
people, but they had the representative of Great |
Britain pressing them, some of the Islanders /
were British subjects. He could not remember all |
the steps taken by the Minister of Interior but he
remembered attempts to have the people returned |
by the Morning Star and other vessels. There was
no doubt regrettable delay but no culpabe negli- |
Gence. lie thought it was proper for the House
to vote $4,000 for the return of the South Sea ISL
landers and for incidentals.
Representative Dole said they had decided to
consider these items separately There were two
motions before the House for incidentals, one for
$1,000 and another for 81 800.
Hon. Junius Kaae moved the item be inserted |
s Cos lie considered that the House would infect
great hardship the Ministers if the expense of
carriage hire was not allowed to them. (Laughter)
He regarded the movement as an attempt of the |
Opposition to entail additional labor on the Min
listers by compelling them to walk. BY reference |
to the Report it would be seen that $603 were used
for carriage hire and the item was not questioned
and he considered that the Ministers could not OBJ
lect to the insertion, daughter and applause.l |
The item passed
Incidentas Board OF immigration .......,....1lA0