The Memphis appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1886-1890, 1886-09-05
CHALMERS and HUBBELL.
HOW MONEY WAS PAID TO SIR
UP DIsSENSIONS
In the Democratic Party In the Sec
Ond Congressional District OF
Mississippi.

able position of Representative in
Congress from the proud old Second
Congressional District of Mississippi.
This testimony is found on pages liz
and Il3 of the printed testimony pub
lished by the authority OF Congrt So.
Question 5-What were the funds
OF your committee called?
Answer-Cash-money; the right
name was Republican Campaign
Fund" bat they we're called club
bell Corruption Fund.-" and every
other name one could think of.
CUES. CD you know Gen. Ohal.
,mers, the contestant in this case, and
if so, how long have you kno wn him
Aps.-I know Gen. Chalmers and
have known him ever since he has
been in Congress
CUES. Did you ever have any in
terviews with Gen. Chalmers, about
the time he wss turned out of the
Forty-seventh Congress?
Ans.-I remember having an inter
view with Gen. Chalmers about that
time, in the parlor of the Riggs House
in this city.
Dues. S-Please state who was pres
emit at that interview, aud what was
the subject matter of II?
Ans.-One morning | met Gen. Chal'
meis in the office Of the Riggs House
and he said he wanted to have talk
with me about the titua ion in Missis-
sippl, or the affairs in Mississippi, and
wanted to know when he could have
zau interview with noe for that purpose.
! asked him how long it would take,
He eaid not a great while. l toll
him if he would wait until l got nv
breakfast / would sse him then.
ate my breakfast, met him and went
into the sitting room and sat down,
Gen. Chalmers then began to talk
about Mississippi poll ics-the attitude
he proposed to lake with respect t.
them and what he proposed to do,
He said that he was satisfied in his
own mind that there was no hope for
better times in Mississippi, politically,
unless Democratic "Bouroon" rule
in that State could be brok.
en- :or ovelthrown. He said
lin re pohse to my question SIS to
what he proposed to do-that hg
should return to Mississippi and an
nounce himself as an independent adj
minisiration candidate for Congress-
and wanted to know if / would be
willing in behalf of the committee to
aid him in making the race. Ireplied
that we were not helping in that sort
of a fight, and would not entertain the
question of assisting him, unless he
was Endorsed by the Republicans o.
the district. After quite long con.
versatiob, during which was trying
to ascertain whether or not he really
mssnt to make the fight, became sat.
isfied that he did. l said to him
"Now, General, am satisfied that you
really intend to make the fight fol
Congress in your district, and am
anxious to have you do it, be.
cause / believe if you and
Mr. Manning get by the ears
in that district, the result
will be that we shall have full vote
there, fair count and that Republi-
can will, in that event stand pretty
good show for winning the race. TIE
General said that he had been to q
good deal of expense, aud alleged
other reasons why he was short oil
money, and wanted me to sssi.t him
and urged that there was no better
way OF spending money than by doing
go, II l really wanted Republican
from that district. After talking thai
subject over pro and con, for tome
time, said to The General, "You &C
down there and make the race in YOU
district, as you have talked here;
will give you $3.50 as a send off, but il
must be upon the distinct understand
ing that the committee is to have
nothing further to do with
your fight, and to furnish
you for further aid, either in money
or otherwise. The General said, sup.
pose the Republicans of the district
nominate me, what will you do then p
i replied, 1--WE will consider that ques-
ton when it comes up, as we will con-
slider other quest ons when they arise."
The General said he was in hurry to
get away. / replied, "Csll here this
evening and Twill pay you the money"
He called in the evening and | did so,
in the meantime having collected the
money from some Republican mem
bers of the House. No other person
was present at this interview.
Ques. Gin the interview above re
ferred to, did not Gen. Chalmers say
he would be an open Republican csn-
ddate if that was deemed best, but
that he (Chalmers) thought t6at it
was wise to pretend to bs an Inde-
pendent, or words to that effect?
Ans.-I do not recollect of his say
ing any such thing, but do Iecollect
OF his saying that when he got home
and fairly into the fight, he believed
the Republicans would nominate or
indorse him, l can't recollect which.
Dues. 10-Then what do you mean
bytaying in your answer just before the
last that Gen. Chalmers urged that
there was 70 better way of spending
money than by doing so If really
wanted a Republican from that dis
tfict?
Ans.-I mean by this,that 1 suppose
when Chalmers saw what was really
driving at, and wanted TO accomplish,
he was anxious to get some assistance
and fell in with my views OF the situa-
ton.
0uOos IL W hab Woo ~ JOu WCAO
driving at and wanted to accomplish?
Ans.-I wanted to stir up dissensions
in the Democratic party in that district
and elect Republican, for at that
time l was not favorable to Gen.
Ohalmers's candidacy, only 80 Ear, as
could use it to secure Republican sue
GEES. The scope Of our conversation,
as / understood it, was to divide the
Democrats and elect Republican.
Cues. I2.-With that understanding
You paid the $3.50 to Gen. Chalmers
Ans.-I d,with that understanding
on my part.
CUES 13.-Was there any misundsr.
standing between you, as you under
stood there or aiierward2
Ans.-There was no talk about mis-
understanding.
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