New-York tribune., 1886-08-26
DEFENDING THE LANDLORDS.
MAJOR sAUNDERsoN ATTACKS PARNELL.

MAJOR SAUNDERSON ATTACKS PARNELL
PERSONALITIES IN THE HOUSE OF CoMMoNs-THE
IRISH LEADER CHARGED WITH poMENTrNG CRIME.
LONDON, Aug. 25.-The debate on the ad-
dress in reply to the Queens speech continued this
evening. Sir Thomas Esmonde. Homo Ruler, dwelt
upon hardships OF the Irish farmers Their produce
he said unstable. and IL was therefore, cruel
barbarty for tho landlords to exact rents 1t was
sound economic doctrine that when profits from land
diminished al concerned should bear the loss, not the
farmers alone
william Redmond, Nationalist said 1T Was useless to
discuss o land settlement now. The question was
whether landlords would be allowed to evot tenants for
not paying impossible rents, whether the Engsh would
allow Irish to be cast into the roadside In the COM
ing winter II the result was boodshed misery and
outrages, the responsibility would rest with the Gov
ernment whose only panaoea the appointment OF
royal commission.
Mr. Bafour Secretary for Scotland, accused Mr. Par
nell OF trying make government impossible by pro-
noting general antrent strike. The Parnelbtes, he
said, did not wish settlement between landlords and
tenants but wished to Keep open the agrarian sore.
Mr. Stuart. on behalf Of the Democrats OF England,
denounced evctons and said that the Democracy would
not tolerate coercion Ireland must be autonomous
Major sauuderson, Conservative said he would speak
as landlord to reuo the Parnellite charge that the
irish landlords-or boods1kers as they were pleased
TO call the landlords Parnete oheerslwere afraid TO
would accept the challenge CONSERVATIVE cheers
Irish landlords not afraid TO accept Parnelte
challenge on this any other point. CONSERVATIVE
cheers and Psrnellte laughterl Major saunderson
quoted an extract speech made IN October 1850.
by Matthew Harris, member for East Galway, in which
the latter said that II the farmers shot the landlords
like partrdges he would not blame them.
Mr. Harris entered the House In obedience TO a sum-
MONS aud immediately asked Major saunderson to re-
peat the quotation Major saunderson again read the
extract from Mr.. Harriss speech
Mr. Harris-wil Major saunderson read what said
leading up to the extractf
Major saundersOn-Thfs is the only portion OF the
speech worth repeating CONSERVATIVE laughter and
loud Parnellite cries of "Order"l
After on excited discussion the Speaker allowed Mr.
Harris to make explanation. Mr.. Harris began
dcursve statement to the effect that in 1s44 he went
into tho Riband lodges In Wesmeath and elsewhere In
an ondeayor to put down agrarian crime The Speaker
intcrposed saying that Mr. Harris. by the Indulgence
OF the House, was alo we'd make personal expl ana
tlon but not to make argumentative speech.
[Cheers.l
Major sauuderson-Mr Harris does not deny the ac-
curacy OF the extract.
Mr. Harris Iexctedlyl-Ido Read the context.
Major saunderson-Mr Harris has informed the
House Of an interesting fact that unaware Of be-
FORE namsly, that he belongs to the Riband Order.
| conservative laughter and Parnete shouts.l
Mr. Dillon rose to a point OF order He asked whether
ing to the Rband Order. tParnellite cheers]
The speaker-It is statement the truth OF which Mr..
Harris has admitted. The House must judge.
Mr. Dillon uenied tha, Mr.. Harris had ad mitted any
thing of the kind. Shouts OF "Orderl and Parneite
cneers.l
The speaker-The honorable members have heard the
statement Doubtless Major saunderson viii accept
denial.
Mr. Harris-I repudate it as an infamous falsehood.
I lCres OF "Order!"l
Tho speaker-Mr Harris viii withdraw that express
sion unreservedly.
Mr. Harris obeyed, but further pickering ensued.
The Speaker. rebukng the disorderly members. said
he hoped that personal illusions would cease tCheers.
nell had Formulated a new canon Thou shalt ask no
rent" All classes and trades In IRE land were In
Irish politician tLaughter.] That occupation was
never in a more hoqrishing condition The Parneites
He instsnced cases at Gweedore, where tenants paid
each other as much as sGU dor bns o9 rs
rent because the parish priest who was president OF the
these landlords Concernng threats cutrages during
winter Mr. Parnell wac ike an engineer VINO coud
throttle valve OF crime in Ireland. He had opened the
valve before and could do again II he pleased Con-
servative and Parneite cries OF " Order Mr..
TO point OF order and after some Discus
MAJOR saunderson said that he would withdraw the
pectonable expression but at the same time would
maintain his private opinion. In conclusion MAJOR
long that they not dealing with craven Govern
ment and that the Government would not let the con-
troll OF ireland fail into the hands OF the League.
The debate was adjourned on motion OF MI Chamber
lain. -, <, .
much possible during Mr.. Glsdstones absence Cen
era Butler will start HE Irish mission Tomorrow go
ing first to Dublin. Edward Russell Liberal. will move
the adjournment Of the debate on the address IN the
House of Commons tomorrow in order to elliott the
exact functions and powers OF General Buler He will
have the support Of the Paruees and prominent Rad
section OF ne Opposition believes tnat the
first step towards placing Ireland under mar tial law
The House OF Commons will probably cit on Saturday