Fort Worth daily gazette. (Fort Worth, Tex.) 1882-1891, 1886-04-22
LABOR is HEARD.
Second Days Session Of Special In
vestlgating Committee --Mc-
Dowell on the Stand.
He Details The Attempt Made 70 Afbi.
trnte and Gives His Views
MS 10 Competition.
Powaeriy Is Recalled and Gives History
OF His organiSaiion--Jay Gould
90 be Heard To-day.
Tho strike Investigation.

session Of the labor investigating com.
mitteo was held this morning Mr.. Nc
Dowell was sworn and examined. He
stated that he was manufacturer Of ma
chinery, was member OF the KNIGHTS
Of Labor, but had no official position.
Chairman; "Without dlyulging any OF
your secrets win you please state what
are the objects Of the order.n
Witness ITO elevate the members by
helping them TO educate themselves, hy
helping to save that which the average
workman has wasted through bad habits,
to lift him from the condition
into which he has fallen through
such habits, to make him therefore an
employer instead OF an empleye, 10
so educate him by the comparison ~of
ideas and by describing the questions
that help to educate that he is able 60
deal with and grasp the subject which
Affects notsonly himself but his employ
ers, that he may become a better work
man, command better wages, and by co.
operating with his employer help him to
such profits that he win be able "a pay
better wagcs.m
Chairman; care there any ujunctions
on the Knights Of Labor under which the
public could not know all that you have
statedY'1
Witness 'I do not understand that
there is anything In the rules of the or
ganization which prohibit any member
from telling the facts that have been
brought out by your question:
In response 10 Il question by Grain, the
witness read statem' Mt covering ali the
details Of the attempt to arbitrate be-
tween the Knights of Labor, represented
by MIR. POYderly, and the Missouri Pacific,
represented by Gould. lie read tho letters
which passed between these gentlemen
which have already been published, The
witness not having copy Of one Of the
letters, Gen. Swalne arose and said, M
COUNSEL for the railroad company, he
would be glad TO supply copy
Mr. Buchanan SAID that while he did
not object 10 the admission Of papers In
the possession Of any body. he did not
wish TO he understood THAT The committee
had taken any action IN regard TO parties
being present by counsel.
Chairman: eve have no counsel here p
! Gen. Swayne apOlOgiz q for having ad-
| dressed the committee Ia the capacity Of
counsel. He thought il was an under
stood thing that counsel was in attend
nnce. The witness theu proceeded with
his statement.
After delivering Mr.. Powdery's second
letter 10 Gould, ne saw Gould personally,
and that gentleman expressed desire 10
meet MIR. Powderly and himself on
the fOlloWng day, Mr. HOP.
kins joined la the Interview. Gould
expressed himself 20 strongly In favor OF
arbitrBtlng the difficulties that IL seemed
to the witness that an agreement vas
sure TO be reached. They met again In
the evening, aud Gould produced and
read to Mr.. Powderly, as the result from
the morning conversation, tele.
gram which he proposed TO send to
MIR, HoXie, Gould read the telegram do 6n
to the words: "'We see no Oh.
lection TO arbitrate any difficulties
between the employees and tho company
past or future" and then asked MIR
Powderly II IL was satisfactory 80 far.
Mr.. Powderly answered IN the affirmative
Gould said "Then let It eud there.n
The witness suggested that Gould should
put the telegram In the form Of letter
10 Mr.. Powderly, and Mr.. Powderly
agreed that " the general executive
board approved OF the rest Of the letter
the men would be ordered back
10 work After Mr.. Powderly left
Gould placed the letter In the witness
hand with the understanding that II the
order 10 go TO work was issued the order
and the letter were 70 be given TO the
press that night. Toward the end OF the.
interview Gould received Telegram
which seemed 10 disturb him, and he said
there was something wrong In st. Louis
The witness said. "Don't &C this
stage split hairs. Tell MIR. Hoxie
In taking the men back 10 work
10 be bllndh Gould wished
70 see Nh. Powderly, but that gentleman
could not 20, and tie witness aud Mfr. |
Turner went TO see Gould with the quos. |
ton from MIR. PowderlY. ado / under. |
stand from your personal letter OF this |
date that your company refuses arbltra.
tion, and must 80 telegraph 10 Martin |
IronsY" Could was not 10, and Mr.. Hop
klns answered by saying; "No, we do
not, He is not 20 70 understand that |
letter.
Mr.. Buchanan Inquired, whether infect
an order for the men to 90 10 work mad |
been issued by the executive board as |
result Of the negotiations and correspond |
ence.
The witness replied that such an order
had been Issued on the evening " March /
IS. The order was pred Gated, he said, |
on the correspondence and an under.
arrived AZ. II was not until |
noon OF the next day that
my suggestion OF misunderstanding had |
reached him. The ultimate result |
was that taree members OF the executive
board went 10 81. Louis. Mr. Hayes could |
not tell the committee what took place
there. The witness was not present.
\ other attempt was made at New York |
through Cyrus w fled 20 bring about
reconciliation, but IL failed
Bnrnes: "Hayeyou sufficient evidence
70 enable you 10 estate that the men on
strike AZ 81 Louis would have promptly
obeyed the order TO resume work II /
Hoxic had complied with the order sent
20 him by GouldY'
Witness; ~ have not the slightest
doubt OF It."
Burnes; "Haye you any evidence tend |
Ing TO show any secret Instructions from