New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-05-01
AN IMPERTINENT WITNESS.
MIR. 1JpsHAw's BAD TEMPER AND MEMORY.
STEAMER CARLISLE AND MtsSks. B'ACH' RANDALL,
HEWITT AND PAYNE BEFORE THE PAN
FLFCrEIC COMMITTEE
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STEAMER CARLISLE AND MtSSkS. B|ACH' RANDALL,
nrwITr AND PAYNE BEFORE THE PAN
ILRCrIIC COMMITTEE.
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WASHINGTON, April 30.-The proceedings
Before the Pan-EIcoiric Investigating Committee were
Of an unusually interesting character to-day, A. j.
Tpshaw, Chef Cork OF the Indian Ohc", proved
another Casey Young small scale. His memory
was amos; defective reluctance TO tell the com
inttee certain things equally as great and ms nr'S
OF temper still more marked than In the case %
Colonel Yorng Under tAe searching s'eNanina'io"
of Jadge Ranncy. Mr. Upshaw grew restless ana h''y
declined 10 answer certain questions. His mnSnau"h
when Judge Ranney asSei hun whether n" h'' con-
suited with Casey Young before going on INC "'"'S'
stand as 10 what questions he should answer A"e" no
bounds.
Mr. Upshaw said that preceding his appointment he
had hecn journalist He had contracted with the Pan
Ilccirc Company organize the Alabama Pan Electric
Conpanv and Mr. Looney had en- interested with hin
I'm the organ The PANE cctric had been pald
$1,000 or - 900 in cash and stock for the state
right ana the company had been capitalized at SoooooO
Mir Rsaney-why was 1t mat Only $4,000 was pail to
The Paa.FIcc,ric Company by the Alabama Company
when the contract called for $4,000
Air. Upshaw-That is my private affair, and you
have nothing to do with what owe.
The witness became ind gnan when Mr.. Ranney asked
II had conferred with Casey Young on the snJect
ami said that attempt browheat witnesses on the
stand was cowariy. and implied that 1t would not be
well TO- any person in his private capacity to Insult
him.
Nc Mnlard-Iln an asidel-I would Ike to know
whether the witness has his pistols with him !
MIR Ranncy however. pnt his question again, ana inc
witness replied positively that he had had no confer
eDce with Mr. Young as to whether or not he should
answer qu lie could not tell what had become
OF the spondence he nigh, have had with the ran
Electric Company dung the organization OF the AIN
bana Company. Senator Harris and Mr.. Young, nc
hat thar mn nj
Office he (witness had received, and he felt l;te sore
on their failure 10 open their mouths in his behalf lie
had been appointed at the Instance OF commissioner
Atkins. and positive that that gentleman hhe"
nothing Of bis connection with the Alabama ease II he
did it had never entered his head when making the
appointment.
Speaker Carlisle took the stand and said that about
Ray l. 1881, had received. while in Philadelphia
letter from j. Harris dated April 49, in which
he wrote reading the etterl
Iaminsiruced by the Rogers Telephone and TELEGRAPH
COMPANY corpOrtors TO advise you mat yOn nave nee
elected director in the company and that Sl"OOYo ID
vices as YOU nay aG It convenient L" render You VIII
doubtless remember the cOtdi. introduction gwen 10
me by General Johnston when applied for the position
OF Electrician OF House. and how YOU were ANXIOUS
,hat / snend Obtain It from the architect The
comnany viii st.st under favorable auspices with
splendid instruments, and the stock VIII appreciate IN
value as We build M R"qnesting prompt reply ana
ynur acceptance have the 30. Obodient
servant, j. HAEaI> hoG1Rs, Secretary OF the Board
To that letter lac had replied:
Before accepting possession Of the stock 1t wOud be
nrcessaIy for be advised TWO points: First.
desire to the charter or prospectus OF tnc comnany,
dependent upon Congressional action 50 long az re-
main member OF Congress VIII not be lnlctsei IN
any company or enterprise concerning Whch congress
siOnal ac ion may be asked
That said Speaker. the last he had ever heard
OF the matter lis recollection that when General
Johnston introduced Rogers witness had told him that
he had nothing to do with the appointment but that he
would approve anything the architect did as tie re-
spon~i,.ty was upon him. That was tho statement h
Invariably made to anybody who came to him about
those pls ,es While he had distinct idea that the
letter was written with Wow 20 influencing IiDhc
officer vet he had little shadow OF suspicion that
somehin. that might come before Congress, be-
cause OF the fact that attempts we're being
made to TO purchase telephone aud
telegraph companies AMI tAis seemed to be telephone
company.
Representative Lewis next took the stand aud testified
that he had received letter from j. Harris Rogers
tanning some poetry 100 shares OF Postal Telegraph
stock The idea expressed in the letter was that the
stock intended pay min for reading the poem
Witness showed letter to Ia, cocasue-M. spriggs-
and together they ncoset the stock in an envelope ana
returned 1t through the mails to Io-ers The construc
he had put the offer was that 1t might he an
Erpresentatve samuel J. Randall testified that he had
distinct recollection of having received either letter
Mr. Mia1d invited the witness to state his view OF the
Improperly ofmembers OF Congr receiving gifts OF
stock.
Mr.. Randall not here to give opinions on such
Subjects
MIR. Millard-You would not receive 1t would you
Mr.. Rancal-II you put 1t in that way am quite sure
would receive 1t
Ahran Hewitt then took the stand and said that lie
had been solicited TO embark in the Pan-eetrc ana
had been offered tenth interest General ATKINS had
first spoken him about IT aud later had come TO his
Office with Senator Harris and Mr.. Rogers to make
formal proposition Tho witness had declined. for the
reasons that Mr. Cooper had just died, his own health
was bad and lie did not feel like taking part Ill new
enterprise
MIR Hewitt was questioned at some length TO elicit his
views respecting the prOpuety OF Congressmon engaging
IN enterprises like the Pan Electric He expressed HIM
self freely subject, saying that he would he en-
try controlled by the consideration OF the question or
whether the enterprise was likely to Affect MS
official action. Two classes OF misunderstanding ana
patens-were usually organized on the principle OF as
easements development. and he nothing wrong
in member OF Congress taking part in such an enter
prise made difference whether 1t was stocked
at SlO0O0,O00 or $4,000.
In answer to Mr.. Rauney's question OF how the pos
session stock would be apt 10 affect member the
enterprise for legislation he replied that
II tie member % man OF high integrity 1t would
cause him to lean backward " or 10 run against his
interest
Representative Serene T. Payne. OF New York, testi-
fed to an from Casey Young to let him have Pan
Electric in Ssi condition that he should be
liable 10 for the development OF the tee-
phone which offer lie mad declined II appe AIRED that
law litigation of kind would have to be en-
the committee then adjourned until Wednesday.