New-York tribune., 1886-08-11


to 2. got naysS %i nsa
other 1t can't do you any harm" II would go long
to obss roa w es
as you are now You not give It to Flynn any
body ese In the meantime will con,nt with G sn. friend
and 500 what he says" did not attach M mncn
Importance to the matter "a should nave Done naa
Imagined there any real prospect OF my being nomi
mated. ,,.
sleeve looked for him all that day. but failed to ind
him The next morning saw him very early. reaching
Of INV interviews with Edison with Thompson aud Flynn.
and Of the letter and asked him what its effect was
d,Sns. its effect 1t was enough say in
sense proper thing matter how IL was TO be used or
he said and friendly toward Edson. would Ike
to help you tho nomination but that paper must be
destroyed When you tell 1t is longer In existence,
l will see If can assist you.
Qwal d 10 you so Tsn ao He as ser
went to the Department and there found MIN i" Mr.
ebout that letter and he confirms my feelings and opinion
about II. Yon must give IT back TO me-" Nowwhy
aDyhow. aOy srus' iii III see Flynn replied am
official now hut mere citizen ltel you ths distinctly,
oGce II 1t Is given me- until that letter is destroyed
Any man who deals with me must rely on Inc and that
o'@Yoa saw Flynn aiterwardi A,Immediatcly. I
went around 10 Kellogrs office. No 2s5 Broadwsy and
TTe FvHn q" What w he asked The letter gave
Thompson REPLIED IIs said he bad not heard heard Of It, IT,
said 40 write letter ike that Wait mere and VIII
see Thompson and get It," lie went and ! waited;
proned the letter 10 him Tomorrow
told him that my cngagsmeht was win me Mayor TO To-
him party 10 tho matter further unless got the
A.~Yon saw him the next dayi A.-Yc.. went thcre
early and ted for him until O'Clock Then | went
meantime and in the rear "fice. went back and
asked II he hai tho letter lie said yes aud hanJed
and taking out my match box, struck match Before
firing II ! showed II 10 Mr. Kellogg Who was with US,
AMI told him what foolish thne hai done lhon
o-D,d You believe II Ia he the same letter had
written and left with Ihonpsoni Al did believe IL
fully. r ,, ,o
a great many times how erpected TO lie confirmed In
he namc ill., said that he must leave tha'
Q. Did he promise to nominate youi A.-No ho did
not cay he would do so until lew minutes before he
U~wheu was tha, I A.-On Tuesday. the day. at
O~And you were confrmedi A.-Immciatey.
EDISON AsToNisHrD Ar 1Hr coNFIEMATIoN.
o-DId You see the Mayor afterwarii A.-Yes- He
said that my confirmation was most e1iraoriinary ana
that 1t made him uneasy. lie askel me II had mado
any bargain. answered. Yes. Mr. Mayor. did ; 1t
was done In a lotter which | got back and burned.
WAS doing that all day yesterday while you were walt
lng for me-"
Q-Did You make any promise - him A.-Yes. to
conduct my oaice honestly
Mr.. Pockham-Dh you make that promise In writing
A-No. had cot done writing.
Mr.. strahsn-Do you remember meeting Hr. Flynn
and Judge GildeIseeye at tho Manhattan Cub later
A-Yrs January |. IN the evening, "hen Mr.. fIynh
told hin that the letter was destroyed hai pclOfe
told him the samo tllng.
q When was tue suggestion that you resign first
made 10 youl A.--sOm" time IA January Mr.. Ihnnp-
son came down the Department aad said that Mayor
Grace terribly neted al our success IN baking his
nomination OF COun,ssiou"r. 81 hob - EMO" "hht nc
meals To do" sad. hut am pretty snre can ln
duc- him To nominate NJ" ln mt ,"-'' ho" 90 you
taken the oiice oblige him and mat would Willingly
relinquish II. II Grace wonld promise u appoint MN
49 yd' ins sf TIy a.,asmsr nee 1" ''''' p'D1' " '
O-Yonr pleasant relations continued thtoachout
February auI Msrchl A.-Yrs.
Odd he renew the request tnai you resign' A.
com5e who WIS a friend OF Thomp.on. 10 win
ruch a request told hm WAS sim ready - resign IN
Thompson. favor lie a,ked me II Vas wiling 10
ton that he present ouy with clear understanding
thai The Mavor was 20 nam" Thonps"n lie gave INC
assurance aud wrote = letter o. rr-lsnation.
Q-Whcn did you nrst hear ihht the ciicr ~ Deoem-
bei - 2G or -. winch yo1 behevci 1" nr 'rstr"yrl
stlll In cxstoneri Am January. l~-'. NJ Nrw-
couibc cane to ohc" aud sAa lac ""' AFRAID iHAt
lie said "Ilr silil has that Flynn letter when you
thought you had burned W. saw II9'npson an az
tad him heard nc had tlAt letter " II that is So
We'll ,e-" lie said. I've got II" "lhrn." sIid !.
"you acted The part oi Jar ani SCOUT rel deJ
mat letter viii face tho p'upe ~ this cJ on ttat
Issue any you lte Ana now. sr Jon can 4" your
,nr NV v y ever since. I.rurnierl
Q-Wha' doyou nran hy ina ! Al mean ihAt
Issued Orders tiAns tho custody OF appointments into
10 . How hal tn~y previously been decided Al
In prcvnn.lv d-icrre largely to my deputy. VIII" va,
a rnomp-on adh"reni l vas u some extent stranger
o|Wnni anont the resignation af'e7 hiatt Al in
formed Mr.. NcsconD~ ihat wanted " back VI" de-
rn.d 10 give H. on iue ground thai the condition wts
m 4 he ,hnnil hama u ia Whenever the Mayor out"d
10 appoint Mr. Tnnmps'n. ! sad yr- eai acccItcd
ofcr ia thar frame %, niud hut that WAS all over Then
4 WI ne this fDrlu1 demand Tor thr lrAtrf.
Duu1vryr ~ rrmlr woegs.
Niv. loae. Noy. .. 1855
'i' S. bE,n ae,ely noi,aea 'a my reg.
withdrawn ami you requested To arn u, same to
me Comm missioner of ruI.c Works.
O-yon had somc communication with the County
I.tuocracv AT th.s time. INA yDu noii Al made
a peinlprr of the county Driuocta'y. Iammany Hat
living Han all OF them. But thc) were AL one to
q. Did you become hostile to the County Democ-
rae, A-Ob. no. All the peope III NY depart
mrnt were OF that orsanihtiion. Tney were
all Tnnn ,son men. The newspapers have h,1 gopt
dcs say about hostility to ih" Comfy democracy
hecause removed lot OF hansers-"h Ia tie Office who
had hccn costng the public hnnireis Of thousands Of
dollar. Eu ihcy forget that an The rmpoyr- ~ the Or
ice wrrc County Democrats You couldn't remove any
O-Y"u removed = lot of ihem. diint You ALI
VINO urie useless Early In February, ~ soon a. s"t
a Gruuty whon codiI must told INN to report to me
concrrIng the czcc-s Of .bor TIE Department lie
reported In July. showing Hat W. conli sate over
500 900 yeir by dschargng useless people who had
K, there BY politicians W" were busy removing
mem when these charges w~r. brought against me.
a I,n Won know william VI. IyiusI A.--N~s.
6-Iir is tho partner OF Mayor Grace and was APP
point ed cry Chamberlain by the Mayor A.-SO un-
TnoMpsnx's orIvIoN or WINS.
Odd you have a conversation with Mr. Thompson
about Mr. Wins A.-Nc".
Q.-Wbat was ,aii
Mr. pcckham-I object to statemont of Mr. Ihomp-
sons opinion OF Mr. Ivins.
Mr. scnirc-You would object stl more II you knew
what he SAID.
Mr. strahsn-I won't press the question. Did yon
aver tell Mr. IyIns that your resignation could be
u.eh without FIvnu's consent 7 Al dii not.
o-Wnst did tell him Al told him that they
vrre trading for my head pretty hv-iy. He said he
knew IT, slld tnry we're all barking az INC wrong tree,
nj .aid they wonld ali be many older before
th.v suec.eIed IA their designs
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