St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-03-19
ESTEE'S REVELATIONS.
The Crook Who Made His Living
With n Pack of Cards.
Talks About the Geneva Murderer
And His Pals.
Special to the Globe.

Special TO the Globe.
AURORA, H., March 1S.-The GLOBE
correspondent had long interview with
EStee at Geneva at o'clock this evening.
He manifeSts little concern i'm his mdict-
ment. claiming to believe that he can clear
himself in his trial. He is medium sized,
slim built young man, by no means hard
looking, of quick, active, nervous temper
ment, aud great talker. He blameS CaSsel-
man for his arrest, and says that IL was he who
first put up the job on him in hopes of get
ting the reward. lie says that CaSSelman
visited PinkertOn's place while he was
locked up there several times. He denies
having told the story Mr.. PinkertOn has
made public about how the murder was
committed, and how Inc went from Gen
eva tonight. He refuses, however, to tell
where he was about the time of the murder.
but says he will disclose at his trial. He
admits that he was at Louisville. KY. and
LOsansport, Ind, soon after the murder.
but" said he mo one would lay out a
route like the one Pin6ertOn's story gives"
He said he made his living with
A PACK OF CABDs,
during his trip. He also admits that he
knew and has associated with Hunt and
Nipp, the crooks mentioned il Pinkerton's
narrative. He claims they are profess
SIGNALS. He says that after leaving Aurora
with Gilbert, the detective, all eX-
penses were paid by Gilbert, and
he can now see why il was
that Gilbert was so willing 10 buy
liquor, and that as soon as they became
under the influence of it to begin talking of
experiences in roDbing stores. The Geneva
murder or any other escapade was not re-
ferred to when no liquor was aboard. He
confeSses having kept company with the
FaXon girl and to having quareled with
her at the rink here He also admits going
to Clinton. Ia, and adds that place is
headquarters for gamblers. thieves and
toughs. He denies having been in jail at
all heretofore, and certainly part OF the
time with which he is credited i'm this morn
ings' papers as having been passed in prison
he was at his home in this city, and for
eighteen months was in the United States
mail service as railway postal clerk. When
Pinkerton arrested him on his
RETURN FROM MINNEAPOLIS
he says they told him they would either
keep him at their place quietly OF bring
him TO the Geneva Jail. where there was
great danger OF his being lynched, as he was
accused of the double murder. He preferred
not to run the risk, which he claimed was
imminent 50 he was kept there closely
guarded, being Shackled during the day and
handcuffed TO a detective every night. He
was willing to wait in hopes the real MUIR
derers would be apprehended and save his
family. He says the detectives wanted
him to turn states evidence and save him
self, but that he would not put up a lob on
any one. He 'denieS having asked
Smiths brother 10 20 with
him and plumber the postoffiee.
though ne remembers when the postoffice
safe was tempered with. Public opinion
here is divided. Some think Estel is
guilty, and many think thatlhe is not, and
that he only played the part of tough cit
izen TO get in with Gilbert and his pals, and
that he boosted OF desperate deeds as often
as Gilbert did.