New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-09-26
1TTsTIN MCCARTHY HERE.
.,vrn,crrNG HOME RULE IN TWO YEARS
MATHEW ARNOLD cRIrIcrsFD-cAUshs of IN"
prrFAsT RIOTS.

"
'ue'.n I.a.a .na as vice president OF the Irish
H.w.m.n.a,v marty next In authority 10 ratpen'
orr,xsd here on board Tue "i
a O'clock last evening. he VIC" 80
an. Raw By Austin Ford. OF me "''" "o'~'
....n,,ny the Reception Committee. ana Joseph ''
tepiese -...rt,pe the Hoffman House Commit
IT,. n.-tr wa. driven to the Hoffman House. where
n suite of rooms had been engaged MI,
Ts e., callers whom he received after Mr. fords
s.aar,n,. we're j. p Farrell president OF the Home
ri. clpb known "the little Napoleon OF the irisn
s,,,.msntsry Fund Association. and John Mcdonnell
.nman. n. was accompanied on the trip by Mr.
"a Mr.. Campbell Praed. who will remain with MIN
.,-,ns his stay here. Mrs. Praed ana MI MoNar'nS
ne Joint authors OF novel called Inc hTu' ho"o'-
49, nublishsd In England last year, and were at
WORK together during the voyage on another enteu
.rhs Ladies' Gallery" which Will treat OF politics and
soc,al LIE and 10 nearly ready for the printers MI
Mccarthy greeted TRIBUNE reporter who caleu on nh
cordially, and spoke freely on the present conul"on
OF the Irish question and the prospects OF Home Rule
1.-THE Irish people," he said. are thoroughly satis-
fed with ,he condition OF affairs as
regards Home Rule, and believe ths'
more success has been accomplished In the line OF SELF
for Ireland within the last few years than
In any previous dtty years of the countrys history.
They lot look upon the division on Gadstones Dill
n O defeat for Home Rule"
but there majority large enough TO prevent
the Irish having their Parliament rscstablshed in Dub
ln," the reporter suggested.
"Of course said Mr.. Mccarthy. laughing. but what
striges is that whereas eight years only small
handful Of willing to support the Home Rule
QUESTION seriously In the House OF Commons,
now there is the solid fact that Sll
with Gladstone at their head proclaimed thsir sd-
hson to the and voted for It, My countrymen'
therefore perfectly satisfied for the because
Hhey feel assured that Home Rule will como as certainly
lss that Tomorrow Wa sun will RISE"
"You are not men Der OF Parliament at present !"
well" he replied, with smile. technically | am
not; but. matter OF plain Justice am the legally
elected representative OF the borough OF Londonderry
True. Mr.. Charles F.. Lewis. my English opponent
holds the seat. having defeated me by three
votes have petironed against his return. and
the will be heard on October 20
with T. NJ. Healy. ex-member for Monaghan, as my
counsel claim that Mr.. Lewis received many fraudu
lent owing 10 the personaon OF voters and the
voting OF many who under age which was permit
ted by the returning officer. an Oranseman
ana Tory slso that many OF my supporters
wero Intlmidated and undue influence exercised
toward them. am quite confident that Lewis will be
unsested and that the will be declared as lawfully
belonging TO me or else new election ordered
What about the petition against Mr. Sections return
FOR West B-lfssti"
"In thas case a election asked for not the seat
claimed. It will come to nothing. though Sexton is
quite safe. 1t a most magnificent victory and the
Orsnsemen notwithstanding all their buster Will come
20 recognize this-hsve recognized 1t, in fact though
they adopted quite bsrbarOus and cruel to
let the word Know now angry lney
"Do you attribute the riots altogether to Sections
vlctoryl"
mo. no Lord Randolph Churchill prepared them
and spurred by the fiery and distinctly
lawless speeches be delivered IN Belfast STILL 1t 10 not
the decent Orangemen but terri Bile. ferocous.
rowdy section OF the organization who are com
mitting these outrages against their un-
offending neighbors. These very riots are
indication that the Orangemen took
better OF the situation than the London news
papers which raised wild exulting cry at the defeat OF
Home Rule while the Orsngemen raised howl OF fury
ut their defeat In West Belfast This shows plainly how
greatly the cause is advanced
"How do you account for the prolongation Of the
rot.r'
because the Administration Of the law is in the
hands OF the Orange party, and magistrates sym
pathize largely with their brethren Will you be sur
prised know that The Islandlnen,' that body OF
slx thousand men that you hear Of marching every
day through the Belfast In solid array and in
defiance OF all law, terror to the pesceable nhabit-
ants shipbuders in the employment Of Sir E Har-
land, the Mayor OF the cyl Why does ne II he loves
law and order permit his thus to provoke riot and
bloodshedi These would have been put down long
john Morley had continued CHER Secretary III
Dublin Castle"
When Questioned as to the effect upon people OF
the arrest OF Father Fahy and his being sent 10 Galway
Ja for six months charge OF alleged Intimidation
OF landlord at Woodtord, where the pessantry were
offering Of the most determined kind 10 the
ponce anu soldiers WHO were nepius Tue 4auuiOtU
10 OF families from their homes,
Mr.. Mccarthy seemed surprised and said that was the
first knowledge he 0an received Of the affair.
81 am certain" he continued that 1t will have
terrible effect upon the temper OF the people just a. the
arrest Of Father sheehy Father Feenan during the
Forster Coercion act did
There d rumOr that the National League will be
suppressed"
"Idouot very much whether even Churchill will agree
10 so errems STEP There are practically no ootrAses
in ireland provoked by the officers OF the law
In proof OF this you must have noticed that since Cen
era Redvers Butler went 10 Kerry with the pre-
tended design OF putting down outrages outrases
have been committed In a mouth thar IN several months
before II was the same remember with the Pn9nix
PARK murders. These foul murders were committed
when the late Chief Secretary ForsterslCoercioD
in full swing aud when lie ooasting OF hav-
ing all the assassDs and village tyrants lock
key. Coercion begets crime and in face OF this fact
IL surprise any person OF average com
how 1t is that the English Gov
eminent will persist in It, hope for
their sake than for the sake OF Ireland
that they won't begin Il again on large SCALE as they
have commenced Tin Kerry on small scale"
chow the convention OF the Irish National League
IN Chicago regarded beyond the water r.
with dsmsy by the Anti Home Rulers, who prophe-
Sled all sorts OF division ana disruption with delight by
ii members OF our party at the harmony which pre-
vailed"
"why is Matthew Arnold opposed to Home Rule T.
"That is what al want Z know" said Mr. McCar-
thy, laughing "He is apostle OF sweetness and
light, but seems TO have very knowledge OF poll
tics Is there any special walton OF his that you
r.
We'd" replied the reporter. Matthew Arnold said
himself the fact thai nvesxths OF the rsh people
demanded selfgovernmont OF the strongest
kons why they shOudn have IT,"
Very crOi, very drOl indeed said Mr. Mccarthy
he laughed heartily. believe he did say that. 1t
strange statemeet, but II condemns ITSELF Why, you
were not p.rmstss 10 anal a 'ce
captivating man, an exquiste poet delicate aud refined
out lie IA capable Of exciting smile when he ventures
INTO politics and tells what ought TO be done"
speech Home Rule a" - $500
ne truth Is that In England very little is known OF
american Affairs know Mr.. Blaine aud regard Alm as
. great man. man Of wonderful eoQuence and OF