The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-06-07
Mr.. Gladstone Will Close the Debate at Late
Hour To- Night, and the Struggle for Sec
ond Reading of the Bill Will Be Ended.
Mr.. Chamberlain Declares that the De-
feat of the Measure Is Certain.
Labouchere Makes Vain Appeal in Behalf of
ladstone-Panorama of the Crucifixon
More Rioting in Belfast-Notes.
THE HoME-RULE QUESTION.

appear CO CnamDerIalu-A III
vision To Be Taken Tonight.
LONDON June 6--Mr. Labouchsre wrote to
Mr.. Chamberlain: ION behalf of many of your
stanch supporters and admirers. I appeal to you
whether Mr. Gladstones reply 9 Mr. Mouton
will not enable you, if not to support the home
rule BILL at least to abstain from voting"
MIR. Chamberlain has replied: II appreciate
the spirit OF your letter, and especially your
recognition of my conciliatory attitude and
desire to prevent a Liberal disrup-
ton" He remarks that Mr.. Labouchere
for whom he acts as proxy; admits that Mr..
Gladstone has given ample pledges that he
would not commit supporters Of the present
bill to support the autum bill, but
says that Mr.. Gladstone has given
no indication that the autumn bill will
materially differ from the present bill.
ION the contrary" he says, 'Mr. Gladstone
has distinctly stated that he will depart from
the main outlines. TO those outlines myself and
my friends are opposed. 1t appears to me that
we shall stultify ourselves if we should abstain.
conscientious belief"
Narl Diluu WrlleS: Inc Time was Wnon
Englishmen sturdily adhered to principles in
stead of changing with every wind. Friends of
the country are anxiously waiting to know if the
character of public men has deteriorated. For
the sake of mercy to misguided section of the
Irish people, let waverers reflect upon the
fatal results their weakness may produce.
Upon them lies fearful responsibility II they
only muster courage to oppose the bill they will
prevent dissolution, which they fear will enable
the Liberals to continue in power under re-
constructed administration"
In an interview Mr. Chamberlain said that
the defeat Of the home-rule bill was certain, for
he knew that his followers were reliable, and
he would be much surprised if the Mouton let
ter affected them. He has never reckoned on
Mr. Pease as a follower. There were twenty or
thirty others who were doubtful, and who were
not included in his list. He expected majority of
thirty against the bill. He was so convinced
that Parliament would be dissolved at the end
of the month that he wag preparing actively for
an election contest
On Saturday Justin Mccarthy wrote as fol-
lows: 1.-THE great battle for the second reading
of the home-rule bill will soon be over. Mr..
Goschen opens the debate on Monday. Parnell
will speak on the same evening. Hicks Beach,
the leader of the opposition, will speak and
Gladstone will bring the debate to an end. 1t is
not certain yet whether Lord Randolph Churchill
will speak or not. He is naturally disinclined to
speak-does not wish to commit himself too far,
knowing well it is quite on the cards he may
have to bring in home-rule bill himself before
very long. Besides, he could hardly speak with
gestions thrown out during the debate
as to Tory negotiations with the Irish
party. before the late elections T. P. OConnor
on Thursday, implied that 'he could If he
would concerning Churchill, whereupon
to @ he Knew knaw
very well that if T. p OConnor had been
party to any negotiations. he was not likely to
make any revelation of them in the House of
Commons But if Churchill should speak, he
the subject himself and do not think he rel
ishes being put in such a predicament If he
should speak, we may be sure that he will not
let himself get into any serious difficulty for lack
OF courage and inventiveness 20 keep him out of
it. hope he will speak, it will be interesting,
to say the least of it,
'Then comes the division. It is hardly worth
while now stopping to indulge in conjecture or
prophecy The division will, in any case, be
very close. strong supporter of the govern
ment, man OF high authority in the House, al
though he is not In Office, a man who made one
of the finest speeches in the whole debate, talked
to me last night for some time on the prospects
of the division. According to his judgment it is
still in the power of Parnell to carry the second
reading by saying some swords Of concession,
which might win few waverers, who are
still anxious or, at least, willing to be won over
but want to give some reason for yielding
few such votes will turn the scale And why
this member of Parliament asked me, should
not Parnel say the words which would have
this magical effectp
''Well. as to that Parnell will most assuredly
speak moderately. as he always does, and show
readiness to accept any reasonable compro-
mise as to mere detail and arrangement, but if
ANYTHING more than this were meant, then Par
nell certainly would not do it. IT wavering
votes were to be won by offering any concession
of principle, then Parnell, feel assured, will
not try to catch wavering votes. Why should he2
The final result is as certain the rising of to-
morrow's sun. There is not man in the
House of Commons now who does not feel that
home rule is certain. Il is only q question of
to day or to morrow. Why should Parnell ac-
cept doubtful measures today when, at the
worst he can have good measures tomorrow