The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-07-27
WORK OF PINKERTON'S MEN.
Its Full Force Not Yet Brought to Bear
on Chicago's Murderous PlOtters.
Detective Jansen's Testimony mistaken on
!, Cross-ExamiHation-E as to the
e Haymarket Riot and its Instigators.


the Anarchist trial will hardly be understood
until more Of 1t Is put in. There is more OF IL
to come Detective Jansen is Only one OF i've
of Pinkerton's Oldest officers who were put TO
work early last winter to find out how much the
Anarchist crowd actually meant by tneir
speeches. and who, in the prosecution OF their
work. penetrated the Anarchist dens, TOOK
part in their most secret conclaves, listened to
their instructions to their dupes, and reported
day by day to Mr.. W. A. Pinkerton, their en-
ployer Pinkerton had been employed by party
of the largest property holders in the city TO
make the investigation and furnish the informa
ton obtained as he got it. His men were not
employed to accuse or convict anybody. They
were instructed to report facts simply as they
Found them. and their testimony is. therefore,
not open to the objection which is usually urged
with force against detectives eyidence-that
It Is procured to convict.
A. G. Jansen. the detective whose disclosures
occasioned sensation on Saturday, took the
stand this morning first, and the cross-examina-
ton of the witness was resumed by Mr.. Foster,
who asked concerning the witnesses version of
Che conversation which took place between Spies
and an aged gentleman on the occasion of the
parade on Decoration Day of last year. Spies,
looking at the militia, said they would not
amount to much in the event of riot; that half
dozen dynamite bombs would scatter the sol
diers in all directions. The witness said he did
not know who this man was. The witness re-
ported daily to the agency, in writing, and the
written reports he obtained from the clerk at the
agency. The name of L. j. Gage is Endorsed on
the Init ha wit doaa not know MIR.
Gage The witness says that on May 81, 1885,
Fielden made speech declaring that the gov
eminent could be overthrown by force only, and
on another occasion Fielden told the witness
that force was to be used on May of this year.
Aug. 10, Parsons speaking of the streetcar
mems strike, said that If Inspector Bontield was
shot the social revolution would be inaugurated.
During the cross-examination Jansen said
Parsons and Fielden were at the first meeting of
the armed section, and he thought Engel also.
William A Pinkerton, chief of the National
Detective Agency. testified that he had en-
ployed detectives to ferret out the secret orders
of the Anarchists. but this was ordered stricken
out, and Mr. Pinkerton left the stand.
Mr. Grinnell read the following notice in the
alarm of Oct IL, 1885:
'The armed section Of the American group
meets every Monday night at No. "a West Lake
Street."
w. p Freeman. newspaper reporter said
that at the meeting on the lake front, April %,
Parsons spoke. saying it the workingmen were
driven to starvation they would unfurl the ban
ner of liberty and fraternity and sweep every
thing before them, and pointed to the red flag as
ne spoke. He urged his hearers to take up
arms Spies spoke in German Fielden said
fyOp c0nld only nniOv the fruitq of their
labor by force. The witness was at the Haymar-
ketS He saw Parsons on the wagon, and he fire.
quentiy cried ITO armsW in his speech Fielden
discussed legislation, and said it was useless to
attempt anything by legislation; force was the
only recourse left The witness saw Parsons,
Spies and Fielden on the wagon, and ne also
thought he saw Schwab. When the police came
up he heard the police give the command to the
crowd to dispense. which was followed by the ex
plosion and the firing. The witness crouched be-
hind the wagon until the firing ceased. On the
cross examination the witness said he did not
hear the remark attributed to Fielden-"We are
psaceable.'
Freeman did not see Fielden have revolver.
Soon after Parsons quit speaking the witness saw
him 90 toward Zepfs Hall.
Joseph Guenhut, city tenement inspector,
was called and testified that he was present
when Spies told reporter how the ranks of the
police could be decimated by dynamite. The
witness was in sne Arbeitsr Zeitung Office on the
afternoon of May g. and Spies prepare the
revenge" circular. This witness trembled violent
~ dnriEg his examination. he has been rec
ngnzed Socialist. and did not wish. apparently,
to be witness in the case.
The examination of Joseph Gruenhut was re-
sgmed at the opening of the afternoon session.
and the witness, replying to question as to
Spies's authority in the issuance of notices call
ing mass meetings of societies and circulars ad-
vising armed resistance to the police, etc., said
that the editor of the Arbeiter Zeitung only
acted upon the orders of the socialistic commit
$aa Ha said furthAr that he had known
Spies to recommend the use of dynamite and
other means of resistance except individually,
for personal protection and safety, and not
for the purpose of organized resistance to the
police. aa waK-
There was sort Of painful interest in the
testimony Of the next witness Dr. E. H. New
man, that commanded the close attention Of the
audience The State's attorney began by hand
ing the witness an ordinary iron nut, about half
an inch square by quarter OF an inch thick.
and asked if he had not extracted 1t from
Q wound. The witness replied that he
had taken IL from the body of policeman
in the county hospital, on the morning of May 5.
The man was one of those wounded at the Hay
market A number of bullets and odd-shaped
missiles of various sizes were handed the witness
IA succession. and he testified to having taken
them or having seen them taken from the bodies
of other police officers who were wounded at the
same time.
Mr.. Foster, cross examining the witness, asked
''Did you mark these missiles SO you would rec
ognize them again, DoctorF
EYES, SIR" the witness replied, and was ex-
cused.
Maxwell e. Dixon, formerly a newspaper man.
knew Spies, Parsons, Fielden, Neebe' and
Schwab. The principal feature of his testimony
was In reference TO q number of conversations
with Parsons. I'm the latter part of last year,
or the first of the present" said the witness. 81
had my last conversation with Parsons
He gave me a paper containing diagram
of q street intersection and said that some such
plan would illustrate the scene of the coming
stand for independence of the Socialists In Chi
cago. why. you're not going to blow anybody
up. are youp l asked. You will see, he an
swered. and it will be brought about sooner than
you think for" Mr. Dixon gave All interesting
account OF several meetings of Socialists which
no had attended. In one of these. Fielden, in a
speech, argued that laboring men we're nothing
more nor less than slaves of the capitalists