Telegram-herald., 1886-06-08

lf--A people ldl accept tlf- nill. ties have
accepted iL without a1g reserve a. q
uleaslre which niay be- considered as 4 liaai
| settlement of great aestl0n.
II iease the question of lbe sovereignty
I ~ Parliament g. - 90 another point which
| Ar. losehen touched upon. lie very Fairly
I l3ld rs bis tears ~ f9 thz abuse oi power be
\ lhe lrsn priesthood. regarding education
I lie has u0t fo.lqNfi the example of other
/ uiusiuols speakers 1y iadllgiug ln eKiray-
I a1auL language regarding Ihis Catholic
I Profess 4nt question. may say
am quite sure his apprehension
I l. genuine as far az 10 goes aud be does not
/ desire o. see ans thing in the shape Of
/ religious discort in Ireland. Indeed
/ Won say thar 81 a Protestant myself. il /
I bad not mad abundant experience 0t the
/ feeling lu Ireland | might not. perhaps be-
/ inclined 20 share bis fear, but as q is /
certainty have n9 such fear. / thiuk can
assure Mr. Guscheu thaE we shall be able %
settle this question of education very we'll
among ourselves. lCheersl There are many
/ Liberals Nati0nalists / call them-there
arc many Liberal Nau0nalists in Ireland
who very much desire 20 See the people of
L lister sharing the responsibility or the feel
ing that they have regarding education.
can assure the House that with Ulster ia the
Irish legislature with such representatives
as We see coming from ister 10 the House
there is not the slightest risk even If there
We're any idea on the part %. the Catholic
hierarchy Of using their power unfairly
against prOtcstanls that such thing can
never take place lcheefsl, We should oe able
I the settle the question 10 the satisfaction Of
everybody concerned among ourselves
lcheersi- | must remind the House that de-
nomiuaLlOnal education viii undoubtedly be
established ia Ireland Mr.. Goschen argued
that there vas great disparity between the
protestant counties or northeastern counties
and the Catholic counties Of Ulster
He showed the disparity 10 be a great deal
larger than it really Is, though the system
or comparison he chose. a system that was
not fair. but one thai would show best for
his argument Undoubtedly there is a
disparity between tue relative wealth of the
northeastern counties and the other cOun-
lies, but the same dlsprOpOrtiOn runs
through Ireland. Ii you draw a meridian
liae through Ireland. the country 10 the
east Is comparatively poor The reason is
obvious. The cpuntry's wealth goes toward
the trading coast The trade of Ireland. the
ports for shipping the main distributing
centers where business men of wealth con-
gregate are found In the east, as is only
natural. The east OF Ulster Munster and
Lei nster are Weather than the rest Of those
provinces. We come row % the protection
of the loyal minority. IL Is question
upon which great attention has been be-
slowed. one would think that the Protest
ants OF Ireland were going To be handed
over 90 the tender mercies OF thugs and
bandits. Major SandersOn - hear hear "
Cheers / only wish was as safe in North
ern Ireland when | 90 there as Major
Slnderson would be in the South HOme
Rule cheers. What do these gentlemen
mean by protection of the loyal minority?
la the FIRST place would ask what
they mean by loyal minority. Mr. Goschen
does not seem 10 know even at this stage
of the day. what the loyal minority Is
When asked he said he meant the me
loyal minority that Mr.. Gladstone referred
TO- bat he would not commit himself by
telling Us what significance he attached TO
Sir. GiadstOnes statement. have
examined Mr.. eiadstones references since
then, and find that Mr.. Gladstone referre
TO the whole province of Ulster. lie did
not select a little bit OF the province because
the opposition nad discovered the point at
time and consequently ! su pose | may
assume that Mr.. GOschen also refers 10 the
whole province of Ulster when he asks that
special protection should be given. He has
not told me how he would specially protect
1t but We may take it from the plans of his
colleagues that Mr.. Chamberlain has sup
piled the plan he has Gained for Ulster
aud / suppose Mr. GO>chen, when the
proper time comes will support him in that
claim. lie has claimed A separate legisla-
ture for Ulster. IOu would not protect the
loyal minority of Ireland even supposing
YOU gave Ulster a separate legislature, be
cause there are outside of that province
over 10000 Protesiants who would still be
without any protection 50 far as
what yon propose would give il to
them. NOu would make the position
Of the 900 900 Protestants by taking awav
Ulster from them. infinitely less secure
Cheers You could not even protect the
Protestants in lister because the Pro-
testants, according TO the last census, were
in the proportion Of iif,ytwo to forty eight
Catholics.
The main reason why we have a major
it's OF the Ulster members is that a large
proportion of PrOtestants aud Nationalist
voted in 0seiy divided constituencies
throughout Ulster in favor of the National
alists candidates, Sd Won would still have the
Natonaiists fO deal with ia lister. even
suppOsing YOU have a separate legislature
there The nrst thing an lister legislature
would do would be to unite itself
with the Dublin Parliament Driven
wav from the friction OF Protestant
Ulster Che opponents OF the bill upon this
point seek refuge IN the northeast corner
of Ulster. consisting Of three counties
Then there comes in the difference IN
stead of protecting o majority of The Irish
PrJtesranfs bv Const tulIng a legislature
for the northeast c3nder Of Ulster. YOU ahan-
don the Protestant majority TO their fate
under the Dabhn Parliament Seven
twellths of the Pr0festanfs of Ireland live
outside of the ihree counties in the north
east corner 0f Z lister and only ive-twelfths
live inside - whatever way you put u
you must abandon the idea Of
protecting the Proiesfauts of Ireland
hv Ihe establishment of a separate legisla-
tuTe either ior lister or any portion Of
Z SER We cannot give up a single Irish
man Cheers We rant the energy the
patriotism the talent and the work
81 every irshmsn % insure that
this great experiment will be- "a
surress The best sr=fari cf
government for country / believe to be
enc sai.a fe8aifes chat the Government
sho1.d he the resnii pf the force. ef the
e3unTV We cannes give avsv 70 q
secured legislature any portion If the
tsienf and infgmee ~ tie irish
Pelfestanss This csss Vil form fhe
alasf valuable element in the Irish Iezis.a-
ture c1asf 'tutIag a. tHev wills a strong
minority. and exerrisiaE fhrlneh the frsf
order q moderate inf.a4uce or making lsws
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n the irsh fsrlsment We want
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