The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1886-04-10
His Attack on Gladstone'S
Proposed Irish Policy.
NJ VOW WANTS A FEDERATION,
Rs,ly Taunts Him and declares
as scheme to be an ImPrac-
ticable One.
chamberIain and Home Rule

r-.-rO-s were the Dukes OF OOnnau8Ht
,-i Cambridge. and many Peers and
,nbassadors; although the attendance
.bowed the intense interest that is taken
IN the progrest of the debate on the
Irish oil, public excitement has some
mat abated. Mr.. Gladstone was
heartily cheered when he arose ana
aid that the debate would be con-
-inued until Monday, when he hoped to
close the discussion. He announced
that the budget would be introduced on
tuesday and the Irish land bill on that
dav. the latter being necessary supple
nent TO the home rule bill. be pro-
posed that the House adjourn for a
weeks holiday at Easter.
Mr.. Chamberlain was received with a
fsint cheers upon arising 10 resume the
debate. He said be rose more for the
purpose of making personal explana-
ION than with the object OF enter
M upon detailed discussion
81 the speech of Mr.. Gladstone.
Continuing, he said that when
be vas asked TO join the move
ment he told Mr.. Gladstone that he did
not think ii possible to reconcile q sep
srste parliament at Dublin as demanded
by the Irish members with the condi-
OF the empire, and Mr.. Gladstone in
formed him that all he wanted then was
an independent inquiry into the suit
iect Of the government OF Ireland. He
wrote q letter to Mr.. Gladstone on jan
uary Sd, in which he explained that he
could not consent TO the establishment
OF a separate Parliament in Dublin,
and II was on that understanding that
he consented to Join the Cabinet. He
had Presumed from what Mr..
Gladstone told him that the
whole Ca cinet would proceed, step
BY step, in consultation to build
scheme of home rule not involving a
separation. 1t was not until March
18th that Mr. Gladstone startled the
Cabinet by bringing forward scheme
involving the issue OF $1,000, 0Ooin con-
suls.
At this point Mr.. Gladstone. inter
rupting, reminded Mr.. Chamberlain
that he had not received permission OF
her Maiesty's Government to reveal the
land proposals.
Nj. Chamberlain, continuing, said
that he would reserve his explanation.
He cid not resign on the land purchase
proposals alona, but on the whole
scheme. Still. he asked, how could he
explain his position If his hands were
tied. Conservative cheers.) He asked
If he might be permitted 10 read his
letter TO Mr.. Gladstone.
Here an angry discussion took place
between Mr.. Chamberlain and Mr..
Gladstone. The latter declared he could
not 90 beyond the limits of the per
mission between Chamberlain, who
thereupOn complained that his explana
ton would be lame and incomplete. He
would never be able TO Justify his con-
duct 70 the House and 70 the country.
He tOek four principal objections TO the
scheme for the government Of Ireland.
The first was the proposal 10 exclude
the Irish members from Westminster;
second. the objection was to the re-
nOuncing, as proposed. OF the exercise
OF right of Imperial taxation; IN the
third place he objected to the surrender
Of the appointments of judges and
magistrates, and, finally, ne objected
70 the supreme authority given
% the Irish Parliament in mat
ters not specially excluded from its
authority. Since he had left the Cab
met, be said an important change had
been made BY the retaining power over
the customs and excise duties, but the
proposal now appeared utterly incon-
Sistent with the principle that taxa
ton aud representation should go
together. He further objected 10
any scheme that laid upon the British
tax payer the tremendous liability
with excessive risk, as such project
could only be looked uDon as bride to
modify the hostilities OF the Irish land
owners to home rule. He did not be
heve that the Irish people would agree
TO be deprived of all voice in the control
OF the matters and policies in which
they were deeply interested, and he as
serted that Ireland was being asked TO
occupy degrading position which the
people would never accept. The further
contribution which Ireland was to be
called on to pay to the Imperial
treasury was fixed by the scheme and
could not be increased even in case the
United Kingdom should be placed in
the position OF direct peril and where,
then. he asked, was the integrity
of the Empire2 The financial cues
ton, he continued. divided itself into
two paris. The English tax payer
would object to any additional burden
being thrown upon him to make good
the Irish deficiencies. and the Irish tax
payers, If there were deficiency in the
budget, owing TO failure of the excise
and custom duties, would be called on
10 pay the new taxes, failing in which,
Nuc kON6IunCuN MOuAA DC ODAlRCA W It
pudiate their obligations. The scheme
would be accepted grudgIngly, and in
the course of two years there would be
an attempt 10 revise or alter it, and as
Tor himself, rather than face the future
agitation which would be certain TO pre-
vail between the two countries,
rather than face the distractions
and foreign complications which
would arise by having a quasi
Independent government. he would
sote for the separation sure and simple.
loud cheers.) The opponents OF the
soyernment scheme were told that the
alternative was coercion; that was his
alternative. The agrarian discomfort
mas arisen chiefly through evictions by
ne landlords. He would propose 10
ueprive the landlords of the power to
eslet for six months, guaranteeing them
Si1 months rent, the land being security