Middlebury register. (Middlebury, Vt.) 1886-1937, 1886-01-22

Soc. wish that you would explain to
me what that is.
AL. When they are engaged in having
dealings with one another, and in using
one another's services, as in the way of
our city life.
Soc. Those of whom you speak are
ruling over men who are using the SER
vices of other men?
AL. Yes.
Soc. Are they ruling over the signal
men who use the services of the rowers?
AL. No; they are not.
Soc, That would be the office of the
pilot?
AL. Yes.
Soc. But perhaps you mean that they
rule over flute-players, who lead the sing
ers and use the services of the dancers?
AL. Certainly not.
soc. That would be the business of
the teacher of the chorus?
AL. Yes.
Soc. Then what is the meaning of
being able to rule over men who use
other men?
AL. mean that they rule over men
who have common rights of citizen
ship, and dealings with one another,
Soc. And what sort of an art is this !?
Suppose that l were to ask you again, as
| did just now, What art makes men
know how to rule over their FELLOWSHIP
ors?
AL. The art of the pilot.
Soc. And, if l may recur to another
old instance, what art enables them to
rule over their fellow-singers?
AL. The art of the teacher of the
chorus, which you were just now men
tioning.
Soc. And what do you call the art
of fellow-citizens?
AL. ! should say good counsel, Socra-
ter.
Soc. And is the art of the pilot evil
counsel?
AL. No.
Soc. But good counsel?
AL. Yes, that is what l should say
good counsel of which the aim is the pre-
servation of the voyagers.
Soc. True. And what is the aim of
that other good counsel of which you
speak?
AL. The aim is the better order and
preservation of the city.
Soc. And what is that of which the
absence or presence improves and pre-
serves the order of the city? Suppose
you were to ask me, what is that of which
the presence or absence improves OF
preserves the order of the body? should
reply, the presence of health and the alb
sence of disease. You would agree tc
that?
AL. Yes.
Soc. And if you were to ask me the
some question about the eyes, 1 should
reply in the same way. "The presence
of and the absence of blindness - or about
the ears, l should reply, that they were
improved and were in better case, wher
deafness was absent, and hearing wa.
present in them?
AL. True.
Soc. And what would you say of {
state? What is that by the presence OF
absence of which the state is improved
and better managed and ordered?
AL. l should say, Socrates, that this
was the presence of friendship and thu
absence of hatred and division.
Soc. And do you mean by friendship
agreement or disagreement?
AL. Agreement.
Soc. What art makes cities agree abou
numbers?
AL. Arithmetic.
Soc. And private individuals?
AL. The same.
Soc. What art makes each individual
agree with himself?
AL. The same.
Soc. And what art makes each of III
agree with himself about the comparative
length of a span and of the cubit? Doe
not the art of measure?
AL. Yes.
Soc. individuals and states are equally
agreed about this?
AL. Yes.
Soc. And the same holds of the bal
ance?
AL. True.
Soc. But what is that agreement o
which you speak, and about what? Wha
art can give that agreement? And doe
that which gives it to the state give i
also to the individual, so as to make hin
consistent with himself and with another
AL. | should suppose so.
Soc. But what is the nature of thi
agreement? answer and faint not.
AL. mean to say that there SHOULD
be such friendship and agreement a
exists between an affectionate father ant
mother and their son, or between
brothers, or between husband and wife.
Soc. But can man, Alcibiades, agre
with a woman about the spinning o