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should pass into the hands of the domestic
| Legislature in Ireland Secoud-That the
proceeds of the customs and excise should
be held for the benefit of Ireland, and for
the discharge of the obligations of Ireland.
and the payment of the balance, after these
| obligations were discharged, should be en-
tered into the Irish exchequer, and be
placed at the free disposal of the Irish
| Legislative body. The functions which it
was proposed to withdraw from the cogniz-
| ance of the Legislative body We're three
grand and principal functions, viz: Every
thing which related to the Crown all that
which belonged to the defences, the army
the navy, the entire organization of armed
force and our foreign and colonial relations.
1t would not be competent to pass laws for
the establishment or endowment of any
particular religion. Cheers. AS to trade
and navigation, it would be a misfortune
for Ireland to separate from England. The
Irish Parliament would have nothing to do
with coinage or the creation of a legal
tender. The subject of the postoffices
would be left to the judgment of Parlia-
ment, though the Government was inclined
to the view that it would be more con-
venient to leave postoffice matters in the
hands of the Postmaster General Quaran-
tine and one or two other subjects were
left in the same category.
The next subject he had to approach was
that of the composition of the proposed
legislative body. The bill proposes to in
troduce two orders, which would sit and
deliberate together, with the right of voting
separately on any occasion on the demand
of either body, which would be able to
interpose veto upon any measure for a
limited time, either until O dissolution or
for three years. The orders would be con-
cff fa1 fo1I
twenty eight representative peers who
could not continue to sit in the House of
Lords after the representatives of the Irish
people had left the House of Commons
They would have the option of sitting as a
portion of the first order in the Irish Par
lament, with the power of sitting for life
He proposed that with the twenty-eight
peers now in the House of Lords, there
should sit seventy five representatives,
elected by the Irish people. With regard
to the power of election, the constituencies
would be composed of Occupiers of holdings
of the value of e25 and upward, and they
would be elected for ten years. The prop
erty qualifications of these representatives
would be e200 annual value ON a capital
value of ga, 900
Mr.. Gladstone said he proposed that the
101 Irish members in the House of Com
mons should be members of the Irish Par
lament, and while the first order of the legis-
lative body would consist of 103 members,
the second order would consist of 206. 1t
was proposed to retain the Viceroy, but he |
would not be the representative of a
party or quit office with outgoing Gov
ernment The Queen would be empowered
to delegate to him any prerogatives she now
enjoyed or would enjoy. Religious disabili- |
ties now existing which make Roman Cath
olics ineligible to Office would be removed. |
In the future Judges would be appointed by
the Government, be paid out of the CONSOLE
dated fund and be removable only on the |
joint address of the two orders. The con-
stabulary would remain under their present |
term of service and under their present |
authority. With respect to the Civil Service |
the Government did not think their case was
he same as that of the constabuary, and |
the transfer of the Civil Service to the Irish
legislative body would effect great economy
He, therefore, thought it would be wise to
civil servants now serving to
claim the pension that would be due to
them upon the abolition of their offices, pro-
vided that they served five years, in order
20 prevent inconvenience from rapid transit
ton of service, and at the close of that time
both parties should be free to negotiate
afresh. That was all, Mr.. Gladstone stat
ed, that he had to say on the subject of the
new Irish constitution
The proportion of the imperial burdens
which he had to propose that Ireland should
bear was as one to fourteen. He thought
that the new Irish Parliament ought to
stand with a balance to its credit but the
only fund that it would have if left alone,
could be the solitary e20, 900 from the Irish
church fund. He knew no way of provid-
ing the necessary money, except by carving
it out of this years budget, and he proposed
that in the future, Ireland should pay one
fifteenth toward the imperial expenditures.
Careful inquiry Che stated it with conf
as matter of certainty, with regard to by far
the greater portion) showed that the Irish
receipts would gain from Great Britain
sum that would amount to 81, 400, 900 per
annum. He then entered into an elaborate
calculation of the total income and expendi-
ture of Ireland, III the course of which he
stated that the total charge to Ireland as an
imperial contribution be put at e3, 242, 900
per annum. He estimated the total expend-
ture of Ireland, including payments to the
sinking fund for the Irish portion of the
national debt, at CT, 94S, 900 per annum
Against this there was a total income of
e8, $4,000, or q surplus to the good of
e4O4, 600.
Mr.. Gladstone resumed his seat amid
bursts of enthusiastic cheers, which were
for several minutes. Gladstone's.
speech was three hours and twenty-five
minutes in duration.
THE DEBATE.