New-York tribune., 1886-08-10
SPIES IN HIS OWN BEHALF.
GIVING EviDENNCE AGAINST HIN SELF.
BLUE OUTLOOK FOR THE NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. IN
HIS ELEMENT.
fry TELEGRAPH 10 rne rGlpUNE.]

BLUE OUTLOOK FOR THE NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. IN
HIS ELEMENT.
tpY TELEGRAPH THg TRIBUNE.
CHICAGO, Aug. 0.-There was an extraordi-
nary crush and about the corridors Of the Criminal
Court building to-day. owing to tho iutimaton hai the
defence contemplated placing the defendant spies upon
the witness stand 1t is not known whether the idea OF
exposing this nigh priest OF German speaking Anarchists
to the fire attorneys for the state originated wiih
the attorneys for the defence with spies himself 1t
is thought to grown out OF personal demand OF
the defendant that he he allowed to testify Tho state
made By spies are regarded tonight as extremely
damaging to all the defendants and to tho entire
framework OF the dcencc, lie confessed, practically TO
every damaging urged against him. with me eS'
ception that lighted the fuse TO tho bomb This he
denied with his peculiar smile. He confessed to having
| had bombs fuses and dynamite III MS
| office. but only kept 1t on hahu 10
| exhibit to newspaper reporters. although he hat
experimentcd with dynamite. Inc bombs found
in his Office hal left there with him By some ono
who had since sailed for New Zealand. Ho thought
that the OF the was schwab, out he was not
positive The defendant also related remarkable &C.
currence about his treatment hy the superintendent
OF Police which, strangely enough, never before found
| It's way into print
think" remarked an attorney. he left tho conrt.
room this afternoon, "hat Spies las rrcyJc1by sealed
the doom OF a.! the deiendants.'
| Spies SAID that full name was August Vincent
| Theodore spies Ilo was born In Germany. ant was
/ !
ls72 his father time being dead. out his mother
was s,in Mvlne an1 was In this country. on May
| he was editor OF tho ArJcitcr Zc.ung aud had
been for ntte over SIX year' Irior
| TO that he was in the furniture business.
Tito witness said that he made speech on the Black
Road on May 3, McCormcks factory. at the reques
OF the Lumber Union. There were from 5000
TO 600 people present "When arrived at the meet
Ing said he, ''1t must have been little after O'Clock
There then speaking several men from the cars
They speakers and some groups OF thoSe
assembled detached themselves at the sides and talked
[ together They were speaking Bohemian or POLISH
went to the car. and. not knowing anybody there
Rau INTRODUCED Inc to the chairman OF tue meeting.
The said that his remarks were commonplace
81 spoke and advised them," said lie. "n as ca III yoce
as could, stand and deviatc from their
demands bat to enforce them at all hazards Cnless
they stood together would defeat
| them and their ends would be defeated. They would
not accomplish any Of their demands. While was
speaking heard sODeuOdy IN the rear, probably two
oh yfet oayd D"t After the meeting was
| told that THIS hat told to follow hun up to
200 persons ached themselves from the main body
ldil know where they going to until proba-
bly, five minutes after this ! heard hrine ana apou,
that time stopped speaking and turned around ana
men hal gone up TO stone McCormcks scais ana mat
| the police had attacked tnen and fired upon them:
| We'll, OF course this seemed very credible 10 W"
stopped and elected member OF that commit
| tee t. visit tho bosses, when two bosses came
|
which we're Immediately followed by about seventy
policemen who walked up after and then patrol was"ns
Well, Jumped from The car AMI went up 10 NC
Cornick. In front OF McCormicks factory there were
| railroad tracks ana upon them were number OF
frscht cars The people wore running away and hid
INK behind those and getting out OF the way OF tho
rolc-msn after people who were flying and hring
| 1T them. Well. as IA matter OF course my
,nS,osu, n,o"a va" could have done almost anythns
women aud children ana men wno wore running,
round from behind the cars and suppose he Ahe" mo
Dnas~,, sWnat KIM Of blank business thisi what
kind Ia that tat viii let people he sh9t down
Yes We have just carried Two away dead There must
have been twenty or twenty hve wounded OF course
meeting had been winch was about three blocks away
.ntw,tnstahg tns sad to some OF them that such
such Things we're going on but they were uncohcer"eu
| ard took car aud went down-town' ,,,
O. after that WAS 1t taat you wrote the e'i
| ,orisl in the ArbeiT Z,,huql
Al wrote that editorial that evening or thaI report
| rather IL was not al editorial
| O--You wrote the Revenge circular !
| wrote the rest of the circular
| Q. When was that written u.
| H-Immediately after came 10 the Office.
U-What do you know personally OF how the word re-
| AH--WcII, can give no explanation Of that at all
DT d}nyed {Sh anG nG .iT"n"d A iuE about 100
we're i,rinted nut do not believe that than half
Ie ddS 1Sr tho s1w e wa, a"Ssr the
| Q-Iow soon was that circular writer after on re,
tnfned from what you had witnessed at McCormcks
| A--Ilumcdi,tel ,, ,,,
| n i will ak whether You were still laborlng
under the excitement OF the scenes OF tho hour Al
va" va what was your state OF mind at that time You
r.. .v state briefly Al was very ntignant; was cI.
c,ted knew positively by The experience had had
a., he mast that butchery OF people was done Tor
tbs pross OBJECT OF defeating the eight hour move
| mcnt Ia TINS CITY.
Tho Court here Interrupted and reminded the counsel
,,a nv reerrug thing else than what took place
st NcC orlnoks and the Haymarket they were opening
,he door for great deal. Captain Black thought with
tns cour and withdrew tho last remark OF the witness
| er,es then went to that he attended the nay
marset meeting. but when asked In the morning e
would speak said mat he woud not because .no or
car. he had written to he printed Tor The inrcg con-
,.ined tne words: WOrkingmer, arm yourselves ana
come I'm full force" lie Explained that ho had struck
our this line before II went 10 the cObpo-tors ne ue
o",en that. being assured that new circulars would De
S.,r,nnteI with this line omitted. he consented TO g0
u sad that he TO the Haymarket with lila brother
rrst when he arrived. Seeing n wagon near the
inv and thinking II wasa good Ilace to speak from,
he called tho people together FINDING that PARSONS
| ,.as moi The RS sent man TO nnd him. .
| The witness proceeded TO Kvc an Outline OF MS
| sneecb and said that 1t was commonplace,
srd contained nothing incendiary iie qiotea % ironi
p. speech but could remember little that fedon
10 sad He sa the police at Randolph and Desplanes
10 and heard order to dsperse. HIS ofother ana
very indignant, said spies, over inc coming ., ne s
malice and my intention was to ask them wnat Isns
they ad break up that meeting put cer,ahy M @
ysrv foolish thing for me to do that lett me wagon
sss ana Sorriblo deionstion. thought tho au.
thoes of the city hsd put oanH1n hS not s6,nk tns
INC u% p1 ,boot upon the people nor did lhnk in the
east at that tms OF bomb ! thought IL ShsuA'' "u'
| nsver thought q bomb exploded -.
SPIES then denied having had any sssocIs,on u, " ,h
| schnaubeIt or schwab or with tho explosion OF 'ne
bomb ., =. p,bo - %, inssrtion in the
| IJ,,trr Zeift,,0 May A. Al dd.
A,oe' ttocr s,d You come lhat A-The night be-
| fore At ii O'CLOCK, received lsIIei as ioows'