New-York tribune., 1886-05-13
THE NEWS IN LONDON.
AIR CHAMBERLAIN HOLDING THE BALANCE
OF POWER.
.,x,srrR1AI APPREHENSION OF DEFEAT on The
HOME RULE BILL-AMICABlE COMMENTS oN
THE FISHERY QUESTION.
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HOME RULE lLL-AMlCABlt CoMMrNiS ON
THE FISHERY QUESTION.
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Iovpoy MAY 1.-THE fishery question elicits
.ome discussion amicable in tone to America, pro-
cecdinc throughout on the theory that all difficult
Tics ought TO be settled by friendly negotiations
The demonstrations in Congress are described by
Ncw-York correspondent as oratorical fireworks. a
definition which the English papers readily accept.
England observes The Telegraph, would rot will
incly quarrel with America for all the Goldfish ever
caught and saltcd. Doubtless; but the question Is
n diplomatic one and the Foreign Office Will take
diplomatic view of it. The Foreign secretary Is
known both for his friendlness to America ana his
strong sympathy with the colonies lhelo oou'u
be no better time for settling the question:
Dlvannis's collapse is complete. lie resigned
ratber than accept the responsibility for MS own
nolicv The new Ministry forming is mere CaDl-
net of Affairs charged with the duty OF carrying
ont the disarmament. Greece submits hersel 10
the will of Europe and conflict is averted. Inc
blockade will speedily be raised, the European
concert having accomplished its purpose. Lord
Rosebery. who las maintained the lead OF Eng
land throughoutis cordially complimentcd by Lord
Salisbury by the English press of all parties, and
even bv the leading Continental journals and di-
romatIsts.
II is the general impression that Mr. Gladstone's
speech on moving the second reading of the Home
Rdle bill has insured Its defeat. Saturdays Cabi-
NET meeting was supposed to have agreed to
amendments sufficient to secure Mr.. Chamberlains
support. MIR Chamberlain himself was led to be-
leve that his ultimatum was accepted. The House
fullv expected to hear Mr. Gladstone announce his
readiness to retain the Irish representation at
Westminster. Instead, he put forward number OF
proposals and suggestions which are freely de-
scribed as fantastic He is willing that the Irish
sbould make occasional ftful reappearances at
Westminster. They may come whenever IL IL pro-
posed to alter the customs or excise dutles they may
come on asking permission by an address from thc
Irish Parliament. There may lie a Joint Commls-
sion appolr ted 10y the parliaments of Dublin and
Westminster to consider questions OF common in-
tcrest Mr. Gladstone threw out sundrv other
hints but these are the only ones which he himself
seemed to think important. The House received
them with blank surprise.
Mr. Chamberlain. though he has not yet spoken,
makes no secret of his views. He rejects these Iro
posals utterly and regards them as not even an a)-
proach to Cancellation. Mr.. Chamberlain's friends
say that ne is unable to explain how he has been
miscd. Mr.. Labouchere who lad acted as inter
,ncdiary and whose visits 10 Mr. Gladstone have
given rise to much curiosity and comment, is more
puzzled than anybody. 1t is now SAID that the
secret was disclosed by Mr.. Gladstone when he de-
clared that he could make no amendment which
Irish members a qualified and grudgins instead of
a cordial assent. Mr. Parnell is known to object
strongly TO the retention of the lish represent
atives at Westminster The Pafncllites. moreover.
are very angry with Mr.. Chamberlain and are
loath to see Home Rule remodelled to meet his
scrupl,s They are determined not to accept the
measure at his hands, if it is possible to obtain 1t
otherwise rne feeling among Gladstonians on thIs
point. perhaps IS equally strong. They see that
L.; Tho hi
without I1ish representation at Westminster is
Iadical IoId Harrington expressed this 1o'clbly,
saving that the exclusion of the Irish representa-
tlves from Westminster a clear. palpable, un-
ansYerable proof ana the outward visible sign o1
the complete separation intended by this measure
between Great Britain and Ireland. Ireland would,
said another. he IN the position of an American
State which should refuse to send Representatives
10 Congress. Mr.. Gladstone no longer considers
the point vital, but others do consider II vital 1t
is acrcc1 that the bill thas recas would be not Mr.
GadstoneS but Mr.. Chamberlans BILL The effect
of Nr. Gladstoncs speech and his faIlure to meet
the criticisms Of OF TO coaciliate his Liberal
opponents have III fact been so damaging that hls
own friends suggest that the present oilers cannot
be final aud tnat he intends to shift his ground
third time and come to terms with Mr.. Chamberlain
The opposition has grown far stronger and more
confident since Monday. SIX new Liberal members
Of Parliament have joined the committee formed
t. oppose the legislative disuuion already includ-
ing forty. The number expected to vote against
the second reading last week reckoned at seventy,
now exceeds 100. Mr.. Chamberlain, by confession
of the GladStonian organ, holds the balance OF
power again. 1t now admits that there Is no prac-
teal possibility Of the bill becoming law this year.
appeals 10 Mr.. Chamberlain to consider the inter
ess of tie party. and threatens that f the Govern
ment Is beaten there will be dissolution and an
appeal to the country.
Mr. GladstOne's speech is less explicit than his
manifesto 1t question whether the second
reading would he regarded by him as mere ailr
mauon'of tic principle of tie establishment of
Legislature at Dubln, but Lord harrington in re-
rlying coupled the two, saying that the House was
entitled 10 ask whether Mr.. Gladstone now invited
a vote Oh the mere abstract resolution. lie object
ed that il was impossible for the House to say
whether it would create an Irish Parliament,
unless the powers of that Parliament were
expressly defined. lie reminded Mr.. Gladstone that
be had himself SAID that before considering whether
such proposal expedient he IL ust consider
whether il was intelliglble
Lord nartingtons speech as a whole was of
IaarheI debating power, with ready answers to Mr..
Gladstonc'S m)rc surprising suggestions. The
joint Commission Lord Harrington held, involved
the idea of making the Irish Legislature a co-Ordi
nate Assembly with the Imperial Parliament itself,
hcncefOTth. to represent only two kingdoms instead
OF three. Quoting Mr GladstOne's former denunci-
aticns of Mr. Parnelrs doctrines of public p!under
and dsloyalty. Lord Harrington asked which of
these doctrines Mr. PANEL had since repudiated
80 strong, indeed, IS the ministerial apprehension
of defeat that Mr. Gladstone declines to continue
the debate nightly. Delay is his present policy in
the hope that the caucuscs will put pressure on
lcstating Liberal members.
DIR Uolmes declined receptions at Liverpool
spent two quiet days at Chester, visited the Duke
OF Westminster, ard reached London yesterday.
dimes tonight with the lIarcOurts Lady liarcourt