Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-04-23
GOULD FACES HIS FOES.
MANY OF POWDERLY's POINTS
CONTBADICTED.


rosdPositions-As innocent as n Lamb
About wall Street Ways-Mr. Hop-
kTns Charges Stock Specializing & on the
Part OF Officials of the knights.
WAsHINGTON, April 22.--The doors of
the room OF the House Committee on Elec-
tions were kept closed this morning until
the special committee investigating the
causes and extent of the labor troubles in
the West were prepared to proceed with
the examination of Jay Gould. Across
the hall outside of the room, was stretched
a barrier, beyond which were allowed to
pass only the members OF the committee,
representatives OF the Knights of Labor,
several gentlemen accompanying Mr.
Gould, including his counsel, Gen.
Swavne, Vice President Hopkins, news
paper men, and several members Of Con-
eress. who were animated with curiosity
TO hear the testimony of the great fnan-
cier. AS that gentleman arose to take the
oath, all eyes were fixed upon him, and
his response 81 do" was given in a low
tone.
BEGINNING THE EXAMINATION.
The Chairman-It is the desire OF the
committee, Mr.. Gould, that you give us
testimony IN respect to the Investigation
in which we are engaged, and for a time
leave the examination to Mr.. Burnes.
The witness wished to know the scope
of the resolution under which the COM
mittee was acting.
Mr.. Burnes stated that the select COM
mittee had been authorized by the House
of Representatives to investigate the
causes and extent Of the disturbed cOndi-
ton now existing between railroad cor
pOratiOns engaged in carrying Interstate
commerce and their employees in the
States of Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Ar
kansas and Texas.
Mr.. Gould-lt is true that the Missouri
Pacific runs through some OF these States,
but, at this time, we have no difference
with cur men and are strictly speaking
not within the rule of that resolution.
But l will be very glad to spend the time
in talking to the committee, though |
hardly think they want to spend their
valuable time in talking to me.
TIE WITNESS NOT CALM.
Being requested, however. to proceed,
Mr.. Gould went on to give his testimony
in a low voice, which was generally calm,
but which now and then trembled slightly,
as though it we're shaken with excite
ment or emotion. At times he removed
his gold trimmed spectacles and paused
in his speech, as he carefully wiped them
with his handkerchief. Behind MIN sat
Gen. Swayne, who relieved him of the
work of reading printed matter and whom
he now and then consulted in an under
tone.
"On April To-" he began, "we had in
the transportation department 1907, in
the machinery department 997, in the en-
gineer and tiremen department 1882, in
the car department 503, in the road de-
- q 4
$40 and at our terminal points 397 men
a total Of l0737 men-nOt including our
general officers. TIE operations OF our
road aud l speak from thirty years ex-
perience) are carried on in perfectly
regular and orderly way. The trains are
all run and the business we were char
tered to do is being transacted regularly.
Here is a dispatch | received since left
New York:
SHOWS THE BUSINESS DONE.
This represents the business that was
done up to 12:3j o'clock of this day, April
-: $50 freight trains moved yesterday,
containing 4.647 loads, an increase Of "A
trains and l,537 loads compared with the
same day of last year. Quiet at all points
on the line. Trains are doing well' l
submit to the committee whether we come
within the ruling OF the committee"
Mr.. Burnes-l believe that this Ques-
ton has been substantially passed upon
by the committee. and it is the intention
Df the committee that we investigate all
he circumstances and facts relating to
Inc troubles, and therefore we propose to
examine you with regard to the proceed
ings antecedent to the resumption of busi-
ness.
the Witness-Well, l thought it was
only proper that | should state that fact
to the committee that at the date Of the
resolution we were operating the road in
sregular and formal manner aud per-
forming all the duties our charter called
for.
GOULD'S IDENTITY.
Nj. Burnes-Please state your resi-
5ence, age and occupation.
The WIness-I reside ia New York city.
am 40 years Of age. am President Of
the Missouri Pacific, and have been since
1879.
Mr.. Burnes-We would like for you
now to inform rs if there has been any in
terruption to commerce passing over he
lines OF the road YOU represent in His
souri,, Illinois, Kansas, Arkansas and
Texas, and if so what interruption, and
so far as you know the cause of that in-
tetruptiOn.
The Witness--Do you want me to state
simply what | know. or facts that come
W my hHOWltNRt hH I iEHtNhllt VI bit cur
poratlOn? because | ought 30 state 10 the
committee that left New York on Jan. ,
with my family, on my yacht. for cruise
D the West Indies. / returned 20 New
lork on March 23 The strike occurred
while | was away. and my knowledge
iomes from such official Information as /
received as PRECEDENT Of the company
since my return.
FROM OFFICIAL INFORMATION.
Mr.. Burnes-We understand that nee
essarily you will hc compelled 10 give
many things from official information.
lou viii, OF course, in te5tilyiug discrimi-
lale that which you know from that
nnlch you have from official information.
. we would like you 10 80 over the whole
slound and give us not only what you
now but what you nave reason 20 be-
, The first recognition" proceeded
oN witness. (which our company
Haoe' az far as know, Of
,ur knights Of Labor came out OF a strike
,n April Of last wear. was away az the
pue and until August. In August Mr..
Io"derly came 10 New York with the
"Hniliee. That was the first tme / mad
Fihlng TO 10 with MIN. He stated their
NV, which WAS that part OF the road
-al was IN the hands of receivers should
tghslate large number Of men who were
Nnghts Of Labor who had left the en-
t.9y or the company, and whose places
0oa been largely dlled.
BIG IDEAS or his POWER.