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Mr.. Swayne-Read them both.
Mr.. Hopkins (reading):---

with this proposition, and are you willing to open
such arbitration Our board think this
would be wise and proper thing to do,
and the reply to that is my view is that the company
should at all times promptly and fairly hear all com
plants OF It's employees either by hearing the
themselves a committee OF their number. all OF
whom are of the class those complaining at
fected by the alleged grievance Where the matters
of difference between the company and its employees,
any portion of them are of such character to be
susceptible of an arbitration which be made le
gay binding upon both parties see no objection to
arbitration In such case.
Mr.. Bailey-I don't think that answers what
we want
Mr.. Gould-It seems to me that is what two
| individuals would do; .hey would come together
and talk over their differences, and see II they
could not agree If they could not agree, then
| they would arbitrate.
Mr.. Hopkins-There would not be any use of
having an arbitration unless it was of such
character as to be made binding.
| Mr.. Bailey-That is what we desire to have it
binding.
Mr.. Gould-What is an arbitration
Mr.. Swayne-An arbitration is where two par
| ties enter into contract-jurisdction by con-
| tract instead of Jurisdiction by law. Two par
| ties enter into contract that A, and b, and Z
| shall be court who shall decide their differ
| ences. and that the result shall be binding
Mr. Gould-The law provides form for that.
| Mr.. Swayne-No, sir, there is no law in this
country now that provides for arbitration, but
the general law of contract makes the G. ,lu
| as contract. 1t is civilly enforcible, but not
criminally This act of Congress, if it goes into
force, will give to the decision of arbitrators-
| give to the court power to compel submission to
| the judgment of arbitrator.
Mr. Hopkins-Let me see those dispatches
| just one minute.
Mr.. Swayne conferred privately with Mr.
| Bailey in regard to the telegrams
Mr. Swayne-Now, he says he sees no objec-
| ton.
/, ~ H-"---T see objections. under certain
conditions l want the question put Directly to
| arbitrate2
Mr. Hayes-I am opposed to this system of
considering the question of arbitration.
think the matter has gone far that it is
| question of arbitration and not a question of
considering" When the court comes together,
If there is no matter for arbitration. then the ar
bitration ceases; but to consider the question
whether there is a question for arbitration is
entirely out of the question under the present
circumstances.
Mr.. Somervile-It will have to be understood
what is to be put before that court.
Mr.. Hsyes-This matter in reference to the
company, and in reference to all concerned, is In
serious position at this time. Is it going to
benefit the trouble to continue harping upon
small technicalities, or is it going to be best for
the interests of all concerned to settle
it as soon as possible2 That is the only
thing that hangs upon this question now.
arbitration, we will let them select the employees
themselves, and our general executive board will
go there, or somebody that will be agreeable to
all concerned If they do not do that. they can
not, of course. meet to consider whether there
is any arbitration necessary not
Mr.. Somerville-i thought you said his reply
was evasiye. 1t answers the view of the dispatch
that was sent him.
Mr.. Bailey-Not the question that we want
answered.
Mr. Somerville-You have not asked it yet
Mr. Hayes-You are right We have not
asked him.
AIR Somerville-This is an answer to the sug-
gestion that Mr.. Powderly was informed by the
men themselves that he had refused to meet
them
Mr. Hayes-I will submit this proposition.
[Alr. Hayes wrote dispatch and handed it to
Mr.. Somerville.
Mr. Somerville-To arbtrate WHAT
Mr.. Hayes-Arbitrate the present difficulty.
can't get il out of my head that there is some
difficulty out there; when the board comes to-
eether and finds there is no difficulty, that set
ties it. But the idea of considering whether
there is difficulty, when there are 10000 men
idle.
Mr.. somerville-suppose you make that 'ar-
bitrating or passing upon complaints.'
Mr.. Hayes-Well the present difficulty
MIR. McDowell-Mr. Gould's word is "arbitra
ton
Mr.. Hayes rather think that dispatch ire
ferring to MIR. Hoxie's repy coming from the
Mr.. Somervile-I don't think it is quite fair
to say SO. You have got to bear in mind the
sertion that Mr. Powderly made. that Mr.. Hoxie
had refused to meet them. This is asking him
whether he will. | think Mr.. Powderly will
agree with me that it should not be considered
an evasion on the part of Mr.. Hoxie.
Mr.. Powderly--I think it rests with your
board to say what that means.
Mr.. Somerville-We don't consider it an
sion. If you think it is you ought to say in
what way
Mr.. Powderly--I don't say it is an evasion.
Mr.. Somerville-I don't say you say go. Mr..
Hayes says so; don't don't think Mr. HoXie
meant it as evasion.
Mr.. Hayes-I don't say that; don't say that
he did.
Mr.. Somerville-You have not put any direct
question to him; you are putting it now. You
simply asked whether he was against the general
principle.
Mr.. Hayes-I would rather see this question
go to this board. They the supetiors. Mr..
Gould and the board Of directors here can answer
that question here, and then we could take right
hold or the matter ard find out.
Mr.. Someryile-This is the Associated Press
dispatch from St Louis readingl.
ST. LOUIS, March 8.
Martin Irons chairman of the executive committee
of District Assembly No. 1OI. Knights of Labor ar
rived from Sedalia this morning, and Immediately re-
paired to meeting of his committee which is now
being held, he presiding. He refuses to make any
statement in regard to the strike and will say nothing
to reporters, except that the committee has taken
action, and will take until the result of The
conference now being held between Mr. Gould and
Mr.. Powderly shall be known.
Mr.. Powderly-As to the message prepared
by Mr.. Hayes to be sent to Mr.. hoxie.
Mr.. Somervie-Who do you want this ad
dressed tot
Mr.. McDowell-A good way to put that is,
"Mr. Powderly asks" Then it will 60 from your
president.
Mr.. Somerville-Will you put on there then,
s.Mr. Powderly asksg
The dispatch having been finished by Mr.
Powderly, was directed to be sent, and the con-
ference ended.
The above is a correct report of the conference
between the persons therein named. March 80
1886 +. NJ. ADAMS, Stenographer,
Tribune Building, New York.
Following is Mr. Powderly's question:
NEW YORK, March 80, 1885,.