St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-06-04
TEE TORIES TACTICS.
How the Conservatives Ooquetted With the
ParnellItes Before the Last
Election.
Mr.. 0'0onnor Makes Some Interesting Dis
closures in Last Nights House Of
Commons Debate.
Monday Fixed by Gladstone as the
Date for Division on the Home
Rule Bill.
Mr.. John Morley Pays His Respects
to the Coalition Which Opposes
the Government.
The Home Rule R,lI.


the Conservatives will tomorrow move in
the house OF commons that cloture be ap-
piled to the home rule debate, in order to
secure division on the second reading be-
fore WhitSuntide. 1t is not likely the
government will oppose the motion.
In the house of commons this afternoon
Sir Michael Hicks-Beach, Conservative,
pressed Mr.. Gladstone to fix date for a
division on the second reading OF the home
rule bill. Mr.. Harry Laboucher, Radical,
protested against the fixing of an early
date. announcing that twenty-seven sup
porterS of the measure desired to speak be-
fore the vote. MI. Charles Bradlaugh, Radi-
cal, supported Mr.. Labouchers protest.
Mr.. Gladstone fixed Monday for the division.
The debate was resumed by Mr.. ..O'Connor.
He said he thought that he was justified in
saying that the argument of separation had
vanished from the minds of all reasonable
politicians. [Cries of dissent. He con-
tended that there was no country in the
world where hist DRY taught SO eloquent
lesson against establishments and endow-
ments of religions as Ireland. He called
attention to Mr.. Bright's advice in his letter
to the recent Chamberlain meeting, and
held that members who voted against the
bill would incur serious responsibility,
and would run the risk of not being re
turned. Mr.. O'Connor protested against
imputations on MI. Gladstone, contending
that Mr.. Chamberlain had insinuated
that Mr.. Gladstone was capable
of cheating the house, and asserted
that so long as the five conditions laid down
by Mr.. Gladstone for carrying out the main
principle of the bill were observed the
house and government would be free to ac-
cept any other plan. If the present bill
were defeated weak Tory government,
being revolutionary, would submit another
home rule bill Immediately. Mr.. O'Connor
quoted statements made by Tories to the
effect that another election would result in
favor of the Nationalist. He held that
the principles and
TRADITIONS OF LIBERALISM
required Liberals to support Mr.. Gladstone,
who had the opinion of the whole world on
his side, that those who brought forward
the seperatistS argument overlooked the
fact that peasant proprietary was
great obstacle to revolution. There
was not single section of Catholics that
would for moment tolerate the endow-
ment of state church in Ireland. Mr.
Bright's letter to Mr.. Chamberlain ought to
be published in order that the people might
know whether he advised vote calculated
to precipitate dissolution. In the last
election he (OConnor) tried to return
weak Conservative government If the
Conservatives had been successful home
rule bill would have been introduced on the
day the house met. During that election
every branch of the National league in
England was Tory committee room. The
Conservative agents at Bolton paid for
printing and circulating the Parnell mani
festo. (Mr. Bridgeman, Conservative men,
Der for Bolton, interposing said he knew
nothing about it. Mr.. O'Connor replied
that Mr.. Bridgeman was responsible for
the acts of his agents. with whom he still
had an account to settle. Cries of OH
Continuing, Mr.. O'Connor said that hon
orable consideration restrained him, other
wise he could startle the house by revela-
tons concerning the Chamberwell election
with reference to Mr.. Blunt the personal
friend of Lord Randolph Churchill. Lord
Randolph Churchill interposing said he
would take it as favor if Mr.. O'Connor
relieved himself from restraint. TConserv-
alive cheers Mr.. O'Connor replied that
he would require Mr.. Blunts permission
before complying with Lord Randolph's re-
quest. Mr.. Charles Bradlaugh supported
the bill. He said that the directors to the
details of the measure if they voted for a
second reading would have full opportunity
to discuss the details in committee The
choice lay between Gladstone and coercion
Mr.. Morley, referring to Sir Julian Gold
smiths proposal that an understanding be
arrived at on basis similar to that adopted
in the case of the seats bill, said he would
not object to the adoption of such a course
if conditions favorable to a consensus of
opinion were first necessary. Did Sir Julian
think modus vivendi possible with the OPP
position advocating twenty years Of coer-
cion? Cheers and cries of mo, no, with
draw. 1 will withdraw" responded
Morley, ''if single member ON the OPP
posite bench shall disavow Lord Salsbury's
speech" Regarding the talk of ostracism
Morley thought the supporters of the gov
eminent had the most right to complain of
threats in that direction after what had
purses with which they were to
be fought at the next election.
Members told the house they would will
ingly affirm the principle of home rule and
yet they decided to oppose the bill, thus de-
feating their own object.
THE CRISIS WAS A GRAVE ONE.
The case to-day was different from that
of O'Connell to which Lord Harrington had
Cured. There was no longer an alien
church in the ascendancy. The landlords
no longer had the absolute power they
formerly had. The people have been en-
franchised and were no longer serfs.
lCheers. There had been much talk of
dismemberment. The dispersion of the
Irish across the seas for many years was
the real ACKNOWLEDGMENT. In regard to
local government which many members
were disposed to grant, Lord Salisbury,
speaking at Newport in 1885, argued
it was impossible to ignore the adj
vantage of large central authority
over merely local ones. Moreover in Ire
land they had pretty large experience of
the action of local authority. He instanced
trial by jury and asked how members could
talk as they did of governing Ireland, when
the people were against them and how Lord
Hartington's proposed reform of the Irish
administration would be brought about.
Regarding the suggestion that neither Par
nell nor any of his colleagues would accept
office he said if they did they would soon
lose their whole influence with the existing
state of things. Irish cheers.) What was
wanted was to get hold of those having an
interest in the system and DESTROYS to carry
on a regular orderly method of government.
His opinion was that had the country spent
half the money and attention bestowed on
Egypt and other foreign countries Ireland
would have been support instead Of
taunt to us. We taught Ireland to be
mendcant, instead of self-reliant, by al
tentative brides and subsidies and by boil
steering up the wost land system in the
world. 1t was absurd to compare Ireland
with Scotland. The government had
chosen to proceed with the home rule bill.
instead of the resolution affirming the prin-
ciple, because it felt it ough to be prepared
with plan. 1t never expected to succeed
by one blow, or to carry the scheme by a
rush. 1t was anxious and willing to con-
slider any proposal which did not interfere
with the principle of the bill. nor substan-
tally with the power it intended to confer
on the new Irish legislature. To vote for
the second reading of the bill was to vote for
the principle of autonomous legislation for