Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-06-02

Calh0hc church by It's tenets and
by its faith was bound not to
be content with equality. Cries OF
''Oh ohp'l The members from Ire
land say no. Here is a pamphlet writ
ten bv the Prime Minister on the Vatican
laughterl, in which he says that "tO Sc
cure civll rights has been the aim OF
Christian civilization, while to destroy
that and to Te-establish the resistless,
domineering action as a central power is
the aim of te Roman policy" That was
absolute truth.
EXPRESSIONS OF IRISH BISHOPS.
II it was worth while to carry the argu-
ment further, he could give statements
which Catholic Bishops recently made to
the same effect. Cries OF "Quotew
"QuoteW from Irish members. Was
Ulster justified in fearing attacks on its
material interests when Nationalist
papers were describing the Belfast linen
industry as one of the curses Of the coun-
try? [Cries of "Nol" mop from the
Parnellite members He had seen
series OF articles in the Irish press in
which linen manufacturers were de-
nOunced; but, after all, the question
was not whether these fears we're
we'll founded or the reverse-they existed.
The practical question was, would Par
lament give effect to them. [Opposltion
0ANGtosj AnG blhG UdU SuItlY CnitlG WHtU
the government should give them more
Information than that conveyed in MIR.
Gladstone's recent references to Ulster.
The time had come when the government
ought TO say whether there Ia in Ulster or
in a portion of Ulster [''Hearw "Hearrl
such preGOminating sentiment as de-
ser%'r' separate consideration, aud
whether they will devise a scheme to give
the position Of Ulster such consideration
Cheers.
NO ELEMENT or FINALITY.
II there had been any real element of
tinality in the bill he should have voted
for its second reading, but he failed to see
any such element. The Irish people
would not regard it as final Had such n
bill been offered to Scotland the people
would have Indignantly rejected it. Scot
land would be content with concessions
much less extravagant, such as the pos
session OF local autonomy with the preser-
walton of the supremacy and integrity of
the empire. Was there any man in the
House who could MAINTAIN that
the bill did not weaken
the supremacy OF the imperial
Parliament or at least throw doubt upon
it. Ministerial cries Of '.NO, nOv'1 He
challenged the irish supporters Of the bill
to get up IN Ireland, and say that they fa-
vOred continued existence OF the real su-
premacv of the imperial Parliament TPar-
nellite cheers as 1t exists at present.
Parnellite cries OF "NO, mop Oh,
nOwthe House sees the views of it's Nation
alist members. They want TO weaken
that supremacy. Opposition cheers.l
TIE IRISH OBJECT.
They only support the bill because they
believe 1t throws doubt upon it and leaves
supremacy mere constitutional fgment.
We want real and effective supremacy
and will not lower the powers OF the Brit
ish Parliament to the level OF the suzer-
ainty of the Porte over Cyprus. fOpposi.
tion cheers. They all knew that the
Irish members did not accept the measure
as final settlement and that If theg pre-
tended to 80 accept il they coul, not bind
the Irish people not to take the earliest
chance TO repudiate it. Alluding
to the references during the debate 10 the
case OF Canada, Mr.. Chamberlain con-
tended that it was a natural conclusion,
from what happened in Lower Canada
after the reforms OF 1888, that reforms
like those would have to be granted to
Ireland il the bill we're carried, and,
furthermore, concession after concession
would have to be made to Ireland until
there came an ultimate demand for sepa-
ration. "Hear! Hearwl
THE DEMANDS FOR AN ALTERNATIVE
PLAN.
Demands bad been made upon him to
state an alternative TO Mr.. GladstOne's
proposals. He had suggested certain
lines upon which the measure might have
proceeded. His plan had been described
as the Popkin's plan, and those approving
II were called puny whipsters by Mr..
Healy, whose magnificent physique en-
abled him 10 look down upon men not
fyfffn1 hu DrnyiIor,na IL
s0nal gitts. Laughter 1t was hard
upon them TO be accused OF arrogance aud
presumption when they were trying hon
estly to meet the demand for an alterna-
tive scheme. The members would find
the lines Of his alternative scheme in the
constitution OF Canada, not in the rela-
tiOns between Canada and England.
THE BASIS OF HIS PLAN.
The relations between the provinces OF
Canada and the Dominion Parliament
were those be would establish between
England and Ireland. AS to Ulster he
reminded them that the constitution OF
1910, which united the two provinces OF
Canada, was found not TO answer, and
the result was that the two provinces
separated and each is now en-
jOying separate autonomy under
the Dominion Parliament. That
Parliament had representatives
according to the number of people and
had the right OF veto, a right which was
much used. Another important feature
of the Canadian administration was the
fact that Judges in Canada we're ap-
pointed by the Governor Genera, although
paid by the Dominion Parliament. They
were therefore independent, and were not
likely 70 be influenced by local bodies.
l"Hearl HearWl On these lines would he
legislate for Ireland.
ms DETERMINATION UNCHANGED.
Nothing he had heard from Mr.. Glad
stone altered his determination to vote
against the second reading OF the bill.
They were threatened with dissolution.
lCheers and counter cheers. Dlssolu-
tion had no tefrOrs for him. fCheers.
on one thing he was coniident-nameIv,
that the uniOnist majority in Parliament
would he strengthened. lCheers and cries
Of "OhVl lie rejoiced that this great
issue would soon be submitted 10 the only
tribunal whose decision they could ac-
cept. Parnellte cheers. lie trusted in
the ultimate good sense and patriotism 0f
the British democracy. No doubt the
British democracy had passionate deyo-
tIon 10 MIR. Gladstone icheersl, VINO had
earned and deserved II by fifty years OF
public service. Cheers.
FEELING or THE DEMOCRACY.
The democracy was practically unani-
m0usly In favor of giving the Irish peo-
pie greater control OF their own affairs,
but 10 was not unanimous uDon themethOd
Of carrying out the principle OF the bill
that they were now giving 20 the country.
TCheere.l He hoped the election contests
would be marked by fairer temper than