The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-09-03

loyed by members OF the House"
Mr. Mcdonald resumed the debate on Mr.
sections amendment to the address He attrib-
uted the troubles in Belfast to the Indictment of
certain reverend frebrands and the speeches of
LORD Randolph Churchill and Mr. Chamberlain.
he SAID that the magistracy was apathetlc
wnile blood was being shed, and that II the
police had been allowed to defend themselves at
the outset, the rioting would quickly have been
subdued
Major Saunderson, Conservative, deprecated
the useless prolonging" OF the debate. he said
1t was impossible to treat Sir William Vernon
Harcourt as a serious politician, because the
latter attached less weight to measures than to
men, tie asked how long Harcourt mad been In
favor of separate Parliament. and was pro-
ceeding to diecuss Harcourt's former views con-
corning social order in Ireland, when the Speaker
interposed, saying that the amendment referred
to Belfast specially, and not to Ireland gener-
ally. Major Saunderson denied That the House
was justified in prejudglng cues
ton which was about to form the
subject OF a searching inquiry by the commits
sion. tie denied absolutely that Orangemen
originated the riots, which, he said, were the
legacy OF Gladstone's blood -stained policy which
extended from Khartoum to Belfast. lCheers
he denied Mr.. Sections assertion that Orange
men mad taken an oath to exterminate Catholcs.
orange lodges were always opened with prayer,
and one of the petitions was that Irish Catholics
might be rescued from the error of their ways.
Ii Parliament handed them over to the Parneli-
ties Orangemen would be justified in resorting
to force Orangemen objected to being domin-
ated oy politicians who received foreign money
for.their support
The Speaker here called Major Saunderson to
order, saying that his remarks were irrelevant.
Continuing, Major Saunderson Indignantly de-
MED that he had melted civil war.
Rebellion, not civil war, shouted Mr.. Sexton.
Major Saunderson reiterated that if Parlia-
ment handed over the Loyalists to the tender
mercies of the Parnellites, the former would be
Justified, as last resort. in appealing to arms.
Mr.. Sexton to point of order. He asked
whether Major Saunderson's remarks were al
lowable.
Sir William Vernon Harcourt supported Mr..
Sexton.
Lord Randolph Churchill thought if Major
Saundersons expressions were objected to the
words ought to DO taken down.
The Speaker said he did not think it necessary
for him to interfere
Major Saunderson, in conclusion. said he
hoped that the result of the Governments action
would be to teach Belfast mobs, whether Prot
estant or Catholic that the law must be obeyed.
MIR. Parnell moved to take up the report stage
to morrow
Lord Randolph Churchill desired that it be
taken UP directly.
MIR. Labouchere said that as Lord Randolph
Churchill had failed to answer Sir William Yer
non Harcourt, he fLabouchere) would give notice
that at the report stage he would introduce an
amendment to the effect that ChurchllfS Belfast
speech was calculated to provoke breaches of the
law, and ought to be Withdrawn. Cheers.
Mr. Parnells motion was rejected by a vote of
228 to l2l
Mr. Stuart moved to adjourn the House, and
Lord Randolph Churchill opposed the motion.
Mr. Parne said it did not lie in the mouth of
Churchill, with his past history in the House, to
complain Of the course now being taken This
was the last chance the House would have of
raising the question of Churchill's conduct. In
view of the state of Belfast he thought it reason
able that the adjournment should be granted.
Mr.. Stuarts motion was rejected by vote of
223 to 100.
Mr.. Dillwyn. Liberal, repeating Mr.. Parnell's
reasons, said that his friends determined
TO exhaust all their resources to procure the de-
sired debate. He therefore moved adjournment
of the debate
Lord Randolph Churchill reluctantly consent
ed to adjourn rather than proong the sitting by
resisting so large minority determined on OBJ
struction.
The debate on the address and amendments
was continued at great length, and was at times
| animated John Morley, late Chief Secretary
for Ireland said he thought Mr.. Saundersons
language was that OF rebel He would not
say tLat Saunderson nursed rebellous thoughts,
but if he acted in accordance with his words,
he would stand good chance of being Jail
bird"
Mr.. Pnkerton, an Irish Protestant, was pro
ceeding to defend the Catholics, when Mr..
Mccartney stigmatized Pinkerton as rene
gade."
The Speaker called upon Mccartney to with
draw the expression, aud Mccartney obeyed
Mr.. Redmond Nationalist, said he would be
sorry to descend the depths of Macartney's
scurrious language
Here the Speaker called upon Redmond to
withdraw the expression. and warned him not to
repeat such language
Redmond withdrew the expression. He con-
tinued, however, to comment upon Macartney's
words. whereupon the Speaker called upon him
to apologize to the House Redmond willingly
obeyed, saying he had intended no offense
Vernon Harcourt declared that the Orange
party had long been the curse of Ireland. 1t
had kept alive race and religious hatreds, and
was more harmful than all the other societies to-
gether. AS he was continuing in similar
strain, the Speaker called upon him to keep to
| the subject Of the amendment.
After loud calls for Lord Randolph Churchill
| to which he made no reply. the Speaker put the
question, and Mr.. Sections amendment was re-
jected by vote of 225 to 1913. The announce
ment of the result was received with loud
cheers.
Immediately before the division loud alter
cation arose between Messrs. Colomb and Tan
ner, and the Speaker ordered both 10 appear be-
fore the bar after the division. After the result
of the division had been announced it was de-
cided that it was needless for the House to inter
fere any further with the address, and it was
agreed to without division.
A number of prominent Radical members of
the House of Commons with the assistance of
the Parnelutc- have matured a scheme for
vigorous home-rule eau, oaien during the parlia-
mentary rocess, by means OF pamphlets and
lectures, in which the good results OF SELF
government in the colonies VIII be re-
ferred to increasing rnc'r ioyalty' the
history of Ireland reviewed special stress peIis
laid upon the iniquitous manner in VIA. III tue
union was effected, and the land question, evlo-
ton horrors, Mr. Gladstone's home-rule policy
discussed, etc. Arrangements are also being
fOP HOY IF