New-York tribune., 1886-05-09
THE TWO BIGGEST ROBBERS.
WHAT ALTER SAID ABOUT JAEHNE AND
DE LACY.
INTERESTING TESTIMONY BY JOHN SCOTT
GONE TO CANADA-FRANCIs LYNDE sTElsoN
rxPLAINs-MR. BIssELL KNOWS


NOTHING ABOUT BROADWAY
The Senate Railroad Committee held two
Noura session Yesterday in the Office OF Clarence A.
sevard TO throw additional light on the broadway steal
Tho witnesses amined were Inspector hyrhes rr""o
fvnde stetsou Wilson Bissell. OF Bnfao John scout
aud Thomas b. Brown. The Inspector hao oecn "'Auo
70 find George W. Alter. the man VINO poueh'
ant Jaehre and said that he was In CANADA
Mr. stetson gave history OF his services ~
counsel for Jacob Sharp and cmphatcaiy denied all I'M
proper action and all knowledge OF bribery or undue ln-
any the Board oflsS4 Mr. Bisseli maze
short statement denying any and all relations 10 the
Broadway matter The most important testimony was
that of Scott to Alter had said that Jaehne re-
ee,ved from $40 900 In the Broadway matter
that Jaehne had the deal and that Jaehne ana
De Lacy passed as the 1.-TWO biggest robbers III 'no
Board Mr. Brown testified to the mysterious passage
of f$lsOO0 in bills from ex Alderman Fuigran " :" "
IN Futon-st. Senators Low. walker anu rio'00 ~
nresent Mr. Seward conducted the examination
Inspector Byrnes was drst called. He swore that ne
had been seeking W. Alter Tor seven OF eisn
days, but had been unable to ma nim'
O-Have you any Idea where he is Al nave; a.
think he is in Canada. don't know In what part OF ~
TIey told me all kinds OF stories aoou HIS oois ' ~
1conld not md him.
The mysterious John Scott. of whom 30 much has
cen said was next called He is dark haired man OF
some oryfve years. short and thicRset lie gave tes-
timony in direct, frank manner. lie said'
Iam fity-four years old reside at Rochester. n y
cipaly in the Ninth Ward. | have been contractor
boared at the sinclair House once was In the city
O. DO YOU know a store in Broome-st kent by Alder
man Jaenne Al do. was directed there by Ia irm
| wished have diamonds set. There
are two connecting rooms there; saw George W;
Became an Alderman. Jaenne two or three times
before December. At my December call | knew Alter
sa ser assne Became my sr
ne that ]nenne o was IS, SSs gs sskea Of ,Se
Aldermans business and said 10 Alter Then he must
have done well In the Broadway business g. Alter said
was of the In the business he could NOT
give the exact amount that Jsehms made out OF II put
others got $4,000 or $4,000 and some OF them were
Ss say Anything Scut aohno buying
sdencel A.Yes he said Jaehne was talking OF buying
Q-Dd ne say anything elsci A.-Yes he said the
"toodle" lad been kept in the safe That is about the
of $4,000 and that Jaehne had worked the deal and
would be foolish if he ana not get well paid Alter sad
he had charge of the Doodle over night and had Kep
o-iiaye You seen him since lA-Yes called on Janu
ary 2s about watcn. Alter said business was dull
told him he ought not to have allowed the doodle
%0TSy to s to another Sis and 'i ne
have been a good thing to nave nave o. put tne
OF the money to go hang and ihen divide afterwari
with Jaehne. He said that Jaehne had given him
broken at the su6-Treasury He said that there wa.
not month when Jaehne DID no, make money s o too
$4,000 out OF the Broadway business. | asked him
il Jaehne had bought the residence nut ne stu ne
had not It was not safe invest In property After saia
that when Jaehne paid out money he always did II
JaSne for oo6 The large safe he SAID
the small one inside He showed me ne par bars
to saw those Of rst asked him that wss sa the IL wa sae
oNDid Alter say anything about Jaehne's running
again for Aldermani Ale said Jaehne had got ABOUT
all the money he wanted and probably would not run
Q-Did he mention any other Adermani Ale
said Jaehue an DeLacy had made abon al the money
they wanted; fac that DeLicy and Jaenne were the
TWO biggest robbers la the board He said there vas
outside had helped to work the board. He said some
Hns sSCu a He He M sne no 'g sd o %nD fear !SG
detection as nothing cond be found Out unless one Oh
oteer Alderman IN hole lie said that il took eighteen
TO make majority OF the Board. but that twenty-five
Q-IIave you made any statement in writing regard
Ing this matteri Al have not; . ,o,o .ro, ..,,..
mcnt for youi A.No. sir. have seen The newspaper
rsarng tss ,t+mp m G ah nsa made
such statement have talked win several persons
about this The only man who took any notes OF
the:conversaton was man named Moore a former in-
sprctor In the Custom House lie wanted the position
OF rms on this committee MI Gsle cseo
at the Sinclair House one sunday refused 10 nave
Mr. Moore aid not like his appearance and refused 10
talk about the matter.
Thomas b. Brown, bookkeeper and cashier for Reel 4
Carnrick manufacturing chemists at No. ls2 Fultonst
testified that the firm hal bought paper boxes from
BALDWIN tullgrsf. among others
Q-Do you know anything about loan made to your
the circumstances except Mr. Fullgraf handed
money. which understood was loan and day or so
later gave him note for IT IL was III January or
February. 1851 ca1t state the exact amount was
@spsy wss ss n b canmop state their
tion. There small roll the bills we're not small
NV recollection is that they were large bills.
Q.-Do you know whether tho uote has been paid !
Al DO not SO far as know IL is sun outstanding
of osss ee ro WHAT a do MOI Enow The
was to for year. Abont the time 1t came due !
have to be ra sed forgot about 1t that day. and the
day he said it would not be necessary pay any
Q~Did the note say with INTEREST,"" Al think
moi. SO far as know the note is st unpaid and the
money in the possession OF the frn
Mr. Brown said that he mad Mr.. Carnrick tho
day before down town, wheronpon Mr. Seward read a
certificate from DR.. J. H. Cunning stating that pro-
tracted prostraton rendered impossible for
MIR. Carnrick to appear as a witness Mr Brown nd
that until recently Mr.. Carnrick had been in so bad
mental condition that he could not be ake 10 on bus
ness for a period OF two years. Mr. Brown said he
had appeared himself before the Grand Jury
Francis Lynde stetson called and promptly
took the chair He first made short
statement "in view OF the extraordinary
circumstances under which he had been summoned,
as he put It, On Thursday he sald IN view OF the state
ment made in the Senate by Senator Fassett he had
written to Mr. Seward asking for the earliest possible
moment to be fixed for his examination. Mr.. Stetson
read copy this letter and also from Mr. Seward
which crossed his, asking him to appear yesterday
for examination.
"It seemed incredible that Senator Fassett had
been Incorrectly reported, continued Mr. stetson "and
learned this from Mr.. Fassets statement in
The Argus" Mr. stetson read this statement and pro-
eeeded:
can imagine only two possible connections in which
can be called before this cOmmtee-ths General Rail.
and the securing Of the Broadway franchise.
did work TOR the railway act for five moDths-from
$500 for my work and SSSl % for excuses For
The services Of myself and my partner. n Bangs in
behalf OF the franchise from July 27 20 August
20. 1884. received $3.50. As for details my profes-
siOnal and friendly relations with Scribner d Bright
have been close. was introduced to Mr. Sh ,rp by
John scrbner Mr. Sharp called ON me December l3
1883 and asked me to act as counsel In behalf OF the
General Street Railway act i asked him ia what ca.
pscty he he said Representative OF the united