New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-04-15
SALISBURY ON HOME RULE.
pENOUNCING THE PREM1ER's PROPOSALS.
THOUSANDS AT THE MEETING OF THE LofAL
PATRIOTIC UNION.

onera House where the meeting OF the oya ratr'o'o
Union was held tonight to denouhce "r' 'i"
Home Rule scheme. were besiegeo py crowus vi F'
and the roadways wero blocked hours before inc '0
announced for the beginning Of the proceeoings' oI
Yard of 400 prominent Orangemen from beiias' a
ISverpoo came to London to attend the meeting Inc
,,most enthusiasm evalled among the crowd lhou
.ands were unable enter the house Inc stage ""'
decorated with Union Jacks and armoria she'ds VIII"
union crown in the centre. LORD Haruhg'o"' i
salishury and Lord Randolph Churchill were icoeNo
with enthusiastic cheering Some one IN 'he au ,,
csllsa for cheers for the Queen and groahs Io'
ard Gladstone The audience sang i'"e D,,o n,
and listened 70 the reading OF letters ilo w ,,. do
Argyll ana the Earl of Derby. in whien 'no 10 nm
nounc.d tue Homo Rule bill. saying IL " -,
work able and would involve the hhsuo'n i" ~
49,, ,roro ,oca to
face with great national calamity lie was'herei'o k
o. see around him representatives. OF all parties "iihs
,o nnre 70 avert the danger. From MS own cNP0io
=. v,oo,ov n, Ireland he could safely say that hoine
Rne was not desired by the great body OF the lsh p
nile The priests had largely gone over 10 'ne Na'i ~
ists because they would join anybody VINO wouiu u'n
.vs other religion out of Ireland lCheersl IL inc o
were allowed to pass. this year would be memoraoe III
all time a disastrous year. as 'ne poei""s -
cline OF the British Umpire.
Lord Harrington moved that MI 1Iaus'ono P,0
posals as they would tend 10 ihVauua'o ~
legislative union, would prove disastrous 10 the ih'c'
ests OF both countries. lie repeateu tno
his speecn in Parliament, conendng that the counrSs
o,ce had not vet been heard He credited Mr. GLAD
stone with an honest belief that the country wished
constitutional change, but he refused TO cieui1 MI ""
stones colleagues with the same belief.
Mr. Eylands UiberaD who seconded Lord Hartihg'
toms notion was loudly cheered He charged ina. 'ne
IIish party was connectedIWlth sAHinisHeis "H ~
had made humanity ehudder
Lord Salisbury rising greeted with onthusaSuc
nppause, which several times renewed lie moVeu
that petition embo1ying the sentiments OF the meeting
no nreseuted TO Parliament. They were dealing nc
said with question immeasurably beyond party dher
ence They were confronted with the greatest danger
that had ever meraced the empire. He joined III eno-
cizng the Premers powers. and said that II eoquehco
40 great and experience so cohsun'na'e h"u
failed to produce a tolerable Home Kuie meas
rre he was convinced that such measure
could not be produced at all lCheersJ
Tho debate I'm Parliament showed that the securities
which were supposed to separate Home Rule from apso-
lutte separation had already been driven 10 the "ds'
1t had been be impossible to give fiscal freedom
10 An irish Parliament and at the same une preserve
the fiscal unity of the Empire. They could not refuse
the Irish Pa lament power to deal with customs dutes
nor ask the Irish to contribute 940000O0 toward the
imperial expenditure while refusing them presence IN
the councils Of the Empirc-that would be servltude'
not freedom. Cheers
The securities for the protection OF the minority nc
continued we're also iusory. II the Irish Parliament
obtained FULL free government 1t must have apsoiute
nover over the minority The conditions OF federation
such those of Austria. Germany and America were
not within the English horizon The proposed scheme
OF federation belonged to the region OF pohcai iueas'
not of practical realities. The country had been asReu
10 trust the Irish people. Whiteboy moonlight and
ribbon societies murders by night and day. made DOUBT
f the ausec character attributed to the Irish peasanty
lie Old not maintain that the Irish were worse thah
other people, he did hold that the circumstance hat
Ireland centuries old made 1t Impossible 10 peIeNe
that if entire liberty should be conceded the irisn
could forget anmoes Of centuries and treat those
placed in their power the first time with perfect JUS
tice and equity. Cheers
The Premer's waving wand could not eace the effects
of centuries OF conflict and evaporation. The
future government OF Ireland would not
,rvo,vo uDmanareable difficulties If the
people of England remained true to the Empire Ire.
land wanted wise firm. consistent administration OF
the law. 1t would be terrible II through Engiands
fant-hearedness the Irish were abandoned to the an
archy that would result from Home Rule. what enect
woud the fatal step proposed by Mr.. Gladstone have on
the dest!nes of the English Empires The contest
between England and tho dsaected Irish had lasted
for generations and England now asked to consent
TO an gnominious and complete surrender simiar 10
thar Of great nation which had losta great pattIe H.
vOlvng loss Of territory.
In conclusion tine speaker said: "England would hnd
that separation involved loss OF prestige 1t would
raise doubts az to the prOwess OF England; 1t would
affect the attachment OF the colonies and weaken Eng
lands influence throughout the world. The capitula-
ton desired by Mr.. Gladstone would bring disasterto
which nothing IN English history could compare Our
enemies would view 1t with sinister exultaon our
friends with shame confusion and despair" Cheers.l
Mr. Goschen seconded the motions introduced by Lord
Harrington aud Salisbury, and they were unanimously
carried
Lord Randolph Churchill, speaking at the Beacons
field Club this evening said that Mr.. GadstoDes scheme
meant absolute repeal OF the union. The bill could not
succeed IL had already shattered the Liberal party
and Mr.. Gladstone alone was responsible for IT, The
country confidence in the proposals II Mr. Glad
stone should appeal TO tho country or should re-
tire altogether his policy would retire with him.
Not man in the Government desired to
zee the bill passed The political life OF England was
being poisoned and parayzed by the personal ascend
sncy of one Mr.. Gladstones policy would not be
likely to a rival Tho Irish problem was insoluble
II was utterly impossible to define method by which
to give Ireland Home Rule and also TO maintain the
unity of the Empire. He urged the application to Ire
land OF those principles of courage, common sense.
patience and perseverance which mad made England
prosperous
Earl Granville delivered an address before the Ma
tona League Club last evening. he said that year
ago he favored a large measure Of local govern
ment for ireland but public opinion
on the question then unrpe
His opinion had been more influenced by Earl Spencer
than by Mr.. Gladstone The former considered it i'm
pcrative either grant tho fullest Home Rule to
adopt ccercive
The second reading of Mr. Gladstone's Home Rule
bill in the House OF Commons has been postponed until
Nav 10.
The Conservatives have concluded postpone until
after the Easter holidays deciding whether or not to
force division the second reading OF Mr. Gadstonos
Home Rule bill.
THE SCHEME DENOUNCED BY AN IRISH PAgsoN.
GLASGOW, April IA full meeting OF opponents
Of Mr. Giadsones policy hold at the City Hall hcro
this evening Frequent Interruptions woro caused
by disordery persons Dr. Hanne OF Belfast.
leader OF the Presbyterians OF that city, made
q speech In which he said that he wanted
Mr. Gladstones measure rejected with contempt
anh scorn Z xas he continued the most unwOrkable