Morning journal and courier., 1886-12-11
THE STATE CHANGE.

Saturday, December III, 1886.
 THE STATE CHANGE.
 MT. Sperry's Arguments Replied to by
 MT. J. B. Sargent-A Lively Tilt on
 the Tariff Question Highly Interests
 the Farmers and Others.
 At the close of Hon. N. D. Sperrys re.
 marks on Thursday on the tariff Mir. J. B.
 Sargent of this city, the appointed speaker
 on the other side, replied to Mr. Sperry A
 large audience listened with due attention to
 the speakers. Many of the farmers had seen
 neither of these prominent gentlemen before
 and enjoyed the affair highly. One New Ha-
 ven county farmer said yesterday: "The dis
 cussion did me good; it was battle of Ti-
 tans, and am not as much mystifed as
 was on the tariff question, though it's big
 subject" The Courant said of the debate:
 MT. Sargent IS not as easy speaker as Mir.
 Sperry and he was unfortunate in getting | hold early in his speech of the Sumatra ques- e tion, which he attempted to illustrate, with " the effect that people in the convention at
 once disputed his figures and rather hurt the I effect of the illustration. Then Mr. Sargent l said that as far as the general question was
 concerned he cared nothing about Connecti-
 cut and would let that illustration go He
 proceeded to cover much the same ground ! kOAO ONOA " hE OpeET1J mdkln2 HIS speech
 in great part on application of free trade
 doctrine to the same matters that had been
 already mentioned. Then he said that the ac-
 cumulation of money in savings banks was not
 exactly sign of prosperity. When times were ! good the money was drawn out and put into ! business. He described the use of lead by I the Winchester Arms company for bullets It comes in under 9 cent duty is manufac- tured and sent out all over the world getting rebate Of the duty as it goes out, and so | I1yy fraa TTrIo conditions the cartridges can be sold in the worlds market. He said the tariff took % per cent. extra out of the pockets of farm CTS. He gave good deal of time to the pig I iron question and said that the duty of $6. .72 | ! and the ocean carriage all came out of the | pockets of consumers and almost all of it | ! went into the pockets of the iron men of ! I Pennsylvania, His special claim was for | free raw materials. He read from consular
 ''orts and other dc >cuments and at the close | Ees, 1ss, very strongly !. he advantage of the oIs1 oeeIaIee "omen under Iree trade over those on the contin~-ne under Ss the United said that with all it's aosant:2se ssdafv tbe States under free trade could oeiy e rne world" At the close of his speech the
 more applause.
 MT. Sperry replied briefly, reading from Robert T. Porter's report to show the [ wretched condition of certainBritish artisans, | especially the nail workers, among whom family oe three working If hours day may V earn about s4. IS week among them. He I said he had heard MT. Sargent in old times make g much better speech for protection 2 than he had just made for free tfsds. . The last speaker had built up enormous F | industry and had done it under protection | q and by protection. Now if he could have I f. se trade he would destroy the small com l V petitors, because with the great variety of 3 goods he produced, much over a thousand, n he could lose on any few long enough to ruin | b A cOmnAtitOr Then tO materials. the W word had been misused. As soon an axe D is struck into tree or the ore disturbed in l U the mine it ceases to be raw material Part V of it's value then is in the labor it has re- l l ceived. If he wanted materials free let him l '. increase the production; taking off the tariff \ would raise the price on the other side.
 MT. Sargent again said that the raw ma W terial used in silk manufacture was absolute W ly free. When Mr. Sperry had tried to argue
 from that he was really arguing against him U self. As to the British nail makers, that
 had always been household industry and
 was poorly paid. Wages of nail makers d here averaged $1.36 2-3 day, and yet the
 labor represented only 31 1-2 per cent. of A, it was 50 per cent The Pennsylvania coal '> miners received less wages than the English, l o ranging from 65 to 90 cents as against 75 N to $1.25. He dwelt further on exports of d goods for which he said raw material was i. free. a
 An opportunity was given for questions X from the audience and Colonel Phelps, of q Windsor, asked number of Sargent. A Then someone else asked what result ex- ! a cept mortgages and debts could Nr. Sperry
 show as the result on agriculture of pro- q tective tariff. Mr. Sperry said the statistics ( showed less mortgages on farms now than in
 1860. Answering one or two other questions
 he said: "Take the tariff off and we shall all ] be paupers." To
 Mir. j. M Hubbard, of Middletown, said 1uoo ians had haop oaka1 md aft mn | ed which, so left, seemed to indicate that f there were successful farmers in Connecti- r cut. He wanted to protest against such an C idea and cited numerous examples to the contrary. MT. Sperry said he supposed he T had covered this point and then spoke in the ' same vein as MT. Hubbard.
 Someone said that MT. Sargent has de- ( scribed himself as manufacturer, but he ( knew nothing about MT. Sperry. The latter ( came forward to the very edge of the plat ! , form and said: ''I 8 stone mason and ! 2 bricklayer by trade; and have never been Z ashamed of it!"There was plenty of applause, f especially from people who were a little more fully informed than the member who asked the question. II
 A recess was then taken till evening.
 The afternoon session closed the public ex- l g ercises of the grange annual meeting In the I evening there was private meeting at room t 2 in the United States hotel, which has been the headquarters through the meeting. At 6 Cn1S m6eC1nR the Dy-laWS or Ua0 OIaI0 grange | were amended on some points relating to ! ( the organization and government of Pomona ( or district granges. A resolution was 6 passed favoring the establishment of State
 inspection of milk in towns and citiss. l The following resolution was also adopted: I
 Resolved, That the thanks of the Connec- t ticut State grange of the Patrons of Hus- a bandry be presented to the various railroads c of this State, whose favor of free return we T have enjoyed, and to the press for the favor
 able notices of our meeting which have con- c tributed so much to it's success.
 With the evening meeting the exercises of the second annual meeting of the State c grange came to end. The Dixvven Avenue Church Building V
 Fund.-
 This week brings me still 8 little nearer 1 t home-the &, 800 appealed for. have had from the very beginning genuine faith in \ the necessity and justness of the enterprise | that has taxed my brain and energies for the I last twelve months, but in my experience of
 incessant toll both sides of the Christian life have beautifully illustrated "Faith without works is dead"
 It is my intention to toil on until this now small debt is lifted Last Monday morning Mr. Cornelius Pierpont, meeting me in a \ {