The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-07-09

Hon. Mr.. Kaae understood from tn
bill that only three-fourths of the saIarie
were to be paid. That would not do 70
! soldiers. who are under contract at 5,
much a month. 1t would cause confusion
Their contracts would be violated and they
| would claim release.
/ Mr. Kaulukou asked the honorable
! Noble if he considered soldiers Government
| officers.
| Hon. Mr.. Kaae-Not exactly.
Mr.. Aholo moved to strike out the words
''three-faurths. 1t would only make
trouble and eeIrsusion.
The motion to amend the title was car
ried and the bill passed as amended.
DISQUALIFICATION ACT.
Second reading of an Act TO amend sec
ton 77S of the Civil Code relating to Repre-
sentatives.
On motion of Mr. Aholo the rules were
suspended and the bill read a second time
by its title.
Mr.. Dickey moved the bill be laid upon
amendment to the Constitution he had be-
fore the House.
Mr.. Kaulukou moved it be indefinitely
postponed; the Constitution was one thing
and the Civil Code another
Mr.. ThurstOn said he never expected the
bill would pass. 1t ought To pass, and he
hoped to live long enough to see the time
when the Legislative Assembly would not
be composed of Government officers. He
could say, however, that there were just
as honest men on the Government side of
this House as on the other side. The mem
bers for Hama, Wailuku and Kona could
be trusted just as much as the member for
Kau. 1t was simply impossible for a man
to come here with a Government office
hanging around his neck, and the Minis
tiers, with the power to deprive him of his
position, to vote as he pleases. 1t was the
principle he objected to, and so did every
one outside the official circle He hoped
there would be sufficient sentiment to
compel its acceptance.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare had heard
there was a deal of odOr attached to
office holders. 1t was the first time he had
ever heard that Police Judges, Tax CoIlec-
tors and Assessors should be classed with
criminals and idiots. The bill practically
reads. idiots, insane persons and thieves.
"
heard of Judges, Tax Assessors and Col
lectors being classed with thief? 1t is a
poor rule that will not work both ways.
Who among the people of this Kingdom is
better able to represent the interests of the
country than man who has assessed?
Who is more able than man who has
visited every home and hamlet and knows
every person in the district he seeks to rep
resent? Who is more able to adjust the
iniquities of the law and their harshness
than the Judge of district? He believed
the people themselves should be permitted
to elect the Representatives.
Mr.. Dickey said there were good reasons
why insane people and Judges should not
represent the country. The Constitution
in separate sections says they shall not.
Government officers have power to do
favors to people so as to obtain their votes
There are great many things they can do
to cause people to vote entirely against
their wish. 1t was not right for Tax As
SCISSORS and Collectors to hold a seat in the
Assembly. They are here when they
should be attending to their duties.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said that for all
ills under the sun there was a remedy
From the earliest date of the history of
Constitution this same complaint had been
heard. He had seen change of Govern |
ment in America, which involved change |
of 200, 600 office-holders. Those who were |
out charged the ms with abusing the office |
Directly the ms were out the latter |
adopted the same tactics. 1t has been one |
of the things to base political speeches on
for centuries. In England and America |
ever since the foundation of their Constitu-
tons they have been trying to remedy !
this, but have failed 1t is to be regretted
that those two great Powers have not had |
the gigantic intellect of Messrs. Thurston
and Dickey, gentleman who have discov-
cred this problem by CHASING Judges and
others with thieves. There had never
been known Legislative Assembly legis-
lating conscience into any man. Nor can
you legislate it out of man.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said it was
evident that Mr.. Dickey had not been study
ing the Holy Scriptures in a careful man
ner of late, or he would not have raised
the objection he had done to Tax Col
lectors. They had the assurance that in
an Assembly Tar more august ana nOly
than this-the Assembly of the twelve
apostles-there was included a collector of
taxes.
Mr.. Thurston said that was nineteen
hundred years ago.
Mr. Castle was inclined to think the dis
cussiOn on this bill was premature. The
General had laid himself out
about the ins and outs. and was trying to
make the latter ridiculous. In Great
Britain not only was Government officer
ineligible for election, but it was an offense
for him to interfere.
Mr.. Kaulukou said Mr.. Dickey's argu-
ment was all right, but it would not change
his vote. 1t appeared to him if that
member was only acting as a dry nurse
to the bill, the originators being some
where outside. He had heard of one of
the Justices of the Supreme Court express
ing himself pretty strongly that no Police
Judge should be a member of the Legisla-
tive Assembly. Some lawyers stood in
great fear of the Chief Justice and the
Justices. Should large landed proprietor
intimidate voters. Yet this had been done
in the district of Kona at the last election.
The bill was incompetent ought to in
clude lawyers.