The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-10-14

the House. He said that when the pre-
vious question was moved it was done I
put AN end TO all debate, never mind hoy
many motions had been made.
The previous question was then put anC
carried.
Mr.. Thurston moved the ayes and noe
be taken. Agreed 10.
The motion 10 indefinitely postpone th'
bill was lost on division, by the foIlowin.
vote:
Ayes-Gibson, Dare, Bishop, Dominis
Cleghorn, Wilder, Kuihelani, Dowsett
Bush, Kapena, Parker, Kauhi, Brown
Wight, Kalua, Dickey, Thurston, Dole
! Is
Noes-Kanoa, Kaae, Hayselden, Keau
LiIikalani, Baker, Kaulia, Amara, kaulu
kou, Pahia, Kaunamano, Nahale, Nahinu
AhoIo, Kaukau, Richardson, Kaai, Pae-
haole, Kauai, Palohau-20.
Before the vote was announced by the
President Nj. Dole called upon Mr.. Pae-
haole to give his reason for not voting.
Mr.. PaehaOle SAID he voted on the pre-
vious day III favor of the bill His obser-
vations were that opium was coming in
quite freely. a great deal of the opium
I was doing harm, and the Government de-
1 rived no benefit whatever from it. He
should again vote in favor of the bill to-day.
Mr.. Thurston said that as they had
started in with this mean bill they had
better get all the money and good out of
it they could He moved that the first
/ section be amended by adding the words !:
/ The license to be sold at public auction TO
! the highest bidder" This amendment was
! for the purpose of purifying the Govern
/ ment from any imputatiOn.
/ Mr.. Aholo said he understood the object
! of the bill was to give the license to a suita-
| BILE person, selected by the Minister of the
Interior. Money was not the object of the
bill. The idea was to regulate the traffic.
Mr.. Kaulukou moved the previous ques-
ton. Agreed to.
The amendment offered by Mr.. Thurs
ton was put and lost.
Mr. Dole moved to insert, Eat the up
set price of $50, 900, " in section one.
Mr.. Kaulukou rose to point of order.
This amendment was the same as the one
just defeated
The President ruled that Mr.. Dole was
in order.
Mr. Dole said the license was fixed at
low figure, which puts an enormous tempt
alton in the way. If they pass this law the
Government would receive $50, 900 for the
ensuing year, and an indefinite amount
over that The bill was very transparent,
and was not to make money for the Gov
eminent, but for officials 1t was cOnsid-
cred an injurious measure, and yet the Ii
cense was put low so as to prevent getting
any revenue Was that fair? If put up at
auction, two or three persons would try for
it, and the Government would get the ben
eft. If left as in the bill there would be
chance for bribing the officials for the sake
of getting it. The brides would be such as
to take man of exemplary character to
resist them. They did not want to put their
officials in such position.
Mr. Kaulukou said that Mr.. Dole might
be Minister of the Interior some time.
Mr.. Dole said what troubled him the
most was that Mr.. Kaulukou might hold
the office
Mr.. Aholo said there were always two
sides question. 1t might be all very
wei put al iaor,eo nm at auCtiOn But
on the 9ther hand they must consider that
the competitors for the license might get
together and agree not to pay any more
than the upset price.
Mr.. haunamano said the object of the
bill was to regulate the traffic. 1t was in
tended to give the license to some re-
sponsible party, who would carry on the
business properly, and would not look
solely to the profits to be made out OF 1t.
By so doing they Will allay the apprehen-
sions of the good Christian people who are
CRYING against opium. They could go
down town and find a lot OF struggled
opium in goods.
Hon. Mr.. Bishop said he could not help
feeling sorry for those members who sup
port this bill. 1t was evident that they
feel themselves in the wrong; hence the
weak. silly, childish arguments which they
use. 1t is perfectly evident that there Is
an influence exerted here which they know
thew ought to resist. They know that IN
past wears, when opium was licensed, the
holders of licenses were constantly run
ming to the customs officers and police
complaining that they had paid their
money. but that others were bringing IN
the article at the same time. Another
thing more important than all this is that
while opium was licensed it was used more
ana more ever y cal ~ 'AAN A'e-NA'
country. 1t may not be possible to keep
it entirely away from old opium smokers,
but they can keep it away from those who
have not acquired the habit The natives
frequent Chinese houses and stores, and
it will be absolutely impossible to
keep it from them. The prOvisO that 1t
must not be sold to native Hawaiians and
japanese gives it the appearance OF re
spectabilitv, but it really amounts TO moth
ing Young people will learn the habit
partly out of curiosity, and the habit once
fixed upon them, they cannot be rescued
from it. If it is to be licensed, as much as
possible should be got for the license. That
was the only argument brought in favor OF
the bill. and until this morning no other
argument had been pretended to be of
feFed.
Hon. Mr.. Cleghorn moved the House
adjourn to 30 o'clock. Lost.
Mr.. Dickey moved the ayes and noes be
taken. Agreed TO.
The amendment offered by Mr.. Dole was
lost on division, by the following vote;
Aves-Gibson, Dare, Bishop, Dominis,
/ Cleghorn, Wilder, Kuihelani, Dowsett,
Kauhi Brown, Wight Kalua, Richardson,
Dickey, Thurston, Paehaole, Dole-l7.
/ Noes-Kanoa, Kaae, Hayselden, Keau,