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The Anderson intelligencer. [volume] (Anderson Court House, S.C.) 1860-1914, 1886-09-09

= Ages will come and go; but woman
wilhnot be perfectly happy until she can
hare eyes ;'attached,tos her shoulders, so
that she may look up and criticise her
own back hair.
= An Ohio factory turns out 81 900, 900
matches day, and yet many man has
barked his shins on rocking chair be-
cause be didn't have one of them.
: Glenn Springs township, of Spar.
tanburg, has voted a subscription of
$4,000 10 build a railroad from Glenn
Springs to Spartanburg.
Don't throw away your old -four
barrels. They re,usefnl. 1t has been
found that all ordinary -four barrel will
hold 670,900 silver dollars.
always safe to say hailstones
were as big as hens eggs. They are ney-
er preserved to confront q witness.
The Anderson intelligencer. [volume] (Anderson Court House, S.C.) 1860-1914, 1886-09-09
"He can and lie can't,
He will and wont;
He'll be damned if he does,
And he'll he damned if he don't"

The farmers of South Carolina must
decide the question as to whether I have
betrayed them, misled or deceived them.
do not claim to be infallib'e. but l do
claim to be honest and unsclfi-l / defy
any man to prove the contrary. If the
people send the right men to the Legis-
iature we will secure our rights as farm.
ers and all needed reform politically. If
we do not, l will then. if alive, try to
find out why and 10 tell them who is to
blame. b. q. IILLMAN.
Edgefeld, S. G., August 81, 1886.
The Anderson intelligencer. [volume] (Anderson Court House, S.C.) 1860-1914, 1886-09-09

/ What sort of morality is that which
satisfies a man in the non.payment Of 8
debt as long as his creditor refrains from
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Discoveries in Old Aztec Ruins.

A citizen of Tempe. Arizona territory,
has been excavating in some old Aztec
ruins near that place, and has found
quantities of flint arrow-heads of splen-
did workmanship, superior to those now
found among the Indians, nicely painted
pottery, ornaments made of shell and Of
slate representing different birds, num-
Der of toys made of clay, beads made of
shell, a number of what seem to be
precious stones, stone axes and ham,
mers, stone and bone tools, "metates" or
mills for grinding grain, large stone
mortars and pestles, and numerous other
curiosities. He also found during the pro-
cess of excavation anumber of furnaces,
which had evidently been used for smelt-
ing ores, as there was among the debris
Stag and considerable rich copper and
silver ores that had been taken there by
the Aztec miners. Chicago Times,
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
How to Throw Your Voice.

Almost everybody that has ever heard
a ventriloquist throw his voice on the
stage, or elsewhere, for that matter, has
wished that he could perform the trick
just fofsthe fun of it. Anybody that can
talk can do this seemingly difficult and
marvellous feat if he will only 80 about
it right, and it is not the least bit hard to
do under favorable circumstances. In
the old senate chamber in the old capitol
there are certain stones in the floor,
which, if stood upon, conduct the voice
to certain other stones several yards
away. Persons talking while standing
upon these stones have their voices
1thrown" thus without the least effort,
and the effect upon the listener is most
startling when the sensation is expert
enced for the first time.-Washington
Cor. Cincinnati Enquirer.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Scarcity of Wood In Italy.

Wood is so scarce in sunny Italy"
that it i5 actually. sold by the pound; and
vet it is almost the only fuel used by the
common people. In Venice we saw
steaming-hot boiled potatoes and other
cooked food for sale in the groceries.
Every device is resorted to to save fuel.
American tree-murderers ought, by all
means, to see Italy as warning Of what
q country stripped of wood may become.
The climate of southern and middle
italy in summer appears to us tourists
very like that of America. There is the
same brilliant sunlight and fierce heat.
The dust is binding. Mountain and val
ley are as parched and brown as the
Ohio river clay hillside in August. We
have now journeyed over half of Italy in
one direction and another and I have yet
to see the first good-sized tree. They are
scrawny, little, dried-up things such as
the American farmer would chop down
and throw away. There are not very
many even of that kind.-Foreign Let
FOR
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
the CAUSES OF ANEURlSM.
The Mysterious and Dangerous Enlarge
ment of Blood Observation-Disclosures.

Eae Mysterious and Dangerous Enlarge
ment Of Blood vesseIs-Tteatment-
a lady writes us, saying, 4Please say
something about aneurism. What causes
: it, and what peculiar symptoms belong
to it? 1t seems to be obscure. How can
its presence be discoveredT
AneurisIn-from word meaning TO
enlarge Genotes an enlargement, gener-
ally at some one point, Of an artery. 1t
may OCCUR in an" artery, but is most
common Is those where the 6ieod pres
sure is strongest. Hence the aorta OF
the chest-the largo arterial arch into
which the heart hurls al the blood for the
former to- distribute-~is most likely to be
affected, and that, too, most gravely.
The direct cause is come sub-acute or
chronic Inflammation Of the coats of The
artery, resulting in the degeneration OF
a small patch. The muscular coat, los.
ing its elasticity, bulges out under the
blood pressure, into a considerable
pouch. Being concealed within the
chest cavity, and not necessarily inter
fering with the health, it may remain
for long period undetected. Indeed,
the sudden death Of the person from ita
rupture may be the first intimation of ita
existence.
Some Of the indirect causes Of aneur-
ism are rheumatism, gout, kidney dis
ease, intemperance; mental emotions
violent exercise; strain; mechanical i'm;
pediments to the circulation, as In sol
diers, whose tight-dtsing coats render il
ten times as prevalent among them az
among civilians.
It is more prevalent in males than in
females, and is more common between
the ages of so and go. Cases among the
old are mainly due to that arteriai de,
generation which characterizes age. In
the great majority of cases death results
from rupture of the aneurism.
No one but q physician can treat it,
and he can do nothing without the full
est cooperation of the patient. Youths
Companion.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Trouble with Local Choir Singers.

The trouble with our local singers is
that they sacrifice pronunciation to tone
and articulation to tone. If one wants
to get tone alone one can go out into the
woods and listen to the wordless warbling
of a bird, or to the seashore and hear
the ever varying cadence of the wave,
or, to bring it nearer home, one can get
q cornet-player to blow his horn into
your ear. All these produce tones far
finer than those of the human voice. 1t
is only when we combine intelligence
with sound that we enjoy the beauties
of the human throat. 1t seems as if our
singers want to take out of their music
the intelligent wording that is so neces-
sary. The trouble does not lie in our
language, but in the mistaken notions of
the singers themselves.-Precentor in
Globe-Democrat.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Blondes and Brunettes in Germany.

Thirty-two per cent, or almost third
of the German youth, are blondes; IA
per cent. are brunettes; while all the
rest, "a per cent, must be classed as
mixed, This mixture is not homoge-
neous one, but includes all intermediate
varieties. One class of the German pop
ulation forms a decided exception to
these averages, viz, the Jews. Jewish
children show only il per cent. Of
blondes, but 40 per cent. OF bru-
nettes. Their greater purity Of race is
shown by the small ratio Of the mixed
class amongst them. The. blonde
type is particularly prevalent in Olden-
burg and theneighboringmore northerly
communities; it is rarest in eastern b.
varia and Alsaee.
A canton (Wildeshausen} in Oldenburg
has Sc per cent. of its population blondes,
while Roding, town in the second
group, has only 8 per cent, difference
of AZ per cent. The Sormer has only four
brunettes to each 100 inhabitants, vghile
southern town in Alsace has as many
rs thirty-one to every 100. The distribu.
(tion Of the blonde type is much wider
than that of the brunette type, which Is
only q secondary type. A canton in
Wurtemberg shows the largest ratio Of
the mixed class, go per cent, while Pom
erania shows the smallest, 40 per cent.
The same contrast between the north and
south is shown in Belgium and in Swift
zerland. In southern Austria the bru-
nette type is especially marked, but
here the mixture with the Slavic people
adds compication.-Detroit Free Press.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
How tho Brides Veil Game To Bo.

It was onoe the custom for the bride at
her wedding to wear her hair unbraided
and hanging over her shoulders. At the
celebration of her marriage with the
Palatine, Elizabeth Stuart wore "her
hair disheveled and hanging down her
shoulders" 1t has been suggested that
the brides veil, which of late years has
become one of the most conspicuous
features of her costume, may be nothing
more than milliners substitute, which,
in old times, concealed not few of the
brides personal attractions, and covered
her face when she knelt at the altar
Boston Budget.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Lieut. Greely's Tribute to Celia Thazter'

Lscuh Greely's Tribute to Cola ThaEter.
Concerning Celia Tbaxter's poem, "A
Tryst,n which Lieut.. Greely says his men
were so fond of reading during sheir
Arctic exile, a writer in The Philadelphia
Press relates that, in the summer OF 1854,
Greedy, who was seeking rest and health
at Portsmouth, N. H., went over to the
Isles of Shoals one day to visit Mrs.
Thaxter. AS he reached the porch OF
her house the poet cameforward and ex-
tended her hand. Greely took it,
dropped on one knee, and kissed it, Il
have come" he said in his husky, tremb-
ling voice, ION pilgrimage to thank the
poet for the lines that have lightened
many weary day and night for tand-
full of men who never expected to see
their home and friends again." Here he'
had to pause, and, raised by the kind,
motherly woman, sank into an armchair.
Among those who witnessed the scene
there was not dry eye. After he had
rested little, and had told Of the many
times he had read aloud the poem Tin the
desolation of the north" he asked her
how she could have written it and II she
had ever seen an iceberg. "No," she re-
Piled, Sbut have ever lived by the sea,
in summer and winter, and I suppose
imagination has done the rest. won
derful!" was all that the pilgrim could
eply.-Chicago Tribune.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Tho Ridge on the House Rocf.

The origin of the ornamental ridge
with which large steep roofs of houses in
England and sometimes in this country
are furnished is q curious incident in
architecture. In early times turfs or
clods were placed on the upper ridges Of
the slanting sides of the rough roofs to
keep out the rain. Out of these Jumps
of earth clusters of flowers and weeds
grew freely, which builders afterward
reproduced in the conventional foliage of
the ornamental ridge.-Chicago Times.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
How the Pulse Beats in Battle.

In a private note accompanying the
second part of his article Oh the CAM
paign of Shiloh, Gen. Beauregard records
this interesting fact:
aJust before mounting our horses ION
the morning of the second dny's fight, it
occurred to me to ascertain the pulsa-
tions of the human system in the excite
ment of going into battle. requested
my medical director, DR.. Brodie, to ex-
anime the pulses OF myself and staff.
He found that they varied from 80 to
13O,"-North American Review.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Himself for tho Future.

Frank Buckland, the English natural
Sst, who died few months ago, is much
talked about in England now. A school.
mate says that Buckland, when boy,
used to get up in the middle of the night,
and, designedly, in half-darkness, care
fully bind two fagot sticks together, TO,
the purpose, as he said, Of accustoming
himself to be called upon as a surgeon,
half asleep, to do some professional duty
under adverse circumstances.-The Ar.
gonaut.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
The Wise Nnn's Estimation Of Time.

zone to-day" remarks a wise man,
us worth two to-morrows. Oh, is it,
then? You go into the market with to-
day and see how many to-morrows you
can get for it. You can't get one' Not
q solitary one; you can't even get to-mor-
row morning for it. But if you have a
tomorrow that you want to put on the
market you might get q whole week OF
to-days for it. The only man who
wouldn't offer to-day for it is the man
who is going to be hanged tomorrow
and has consequently very little use for
it. Wha. he wants to trade for is about
two months of yesterdays and couple
of weeks before last.-Burdette In
Brooklyn Eagle.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Success, Of n Dangerous Operation.

Although tried quite q number Of
times, surgical operations for the re-
moval of tumors Or foreign bodies from
the stomach have almost invariably been
unsuccessful. The second successful
case is just reported from England
where large mass of hair. weighing
about pound, was removed from ting
stomach 81 a young lady through ON n'
oastoa Eve iaohaa long, followed by re-
ooaesa.-Medio0 journal.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
One Garment That Changes Not.

There is one garment which is sacred
from the craze for change that attacks
tailors and those who make mems
fashions, and that is the dress coat. The
body coat, the sack coat, the cutaway
and the blouse all change with the sea-
sons, but the dress coat changes so little
hat no one is able to detect the difference
between the old and the new, except by
the signs Of Observation-Disclosures.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
No Progress in FiddIe-HIuking.

In walking through the exhibition OF
musical instruments at South Kensing-
ton was much struck with the contrast
which does not appear to have thus
forced itself upon general attention, if I
may Judge by the critical notices that
have been published. I refer to the
great and still continuing progress of
Improvement in the construction of the
pianoforte, as compared with the abso-
lutes absence of even the smallest step of
Improvement of the violin, violo, violon-
cello, or violone. The clavichords, harp
sichords, clavicymbalums, spinets, gray
;vembai col piano forte, were all mere
tom-toms compared with the modern
piano, while the fiddles, big and little, OF
the same date are the models which our
manufacturers can only endeavor to ap-
proximately initiate.
Innumerable attempts have been made
to improve upon the model of Straolva-
rius, but all have pitifully failed. Every
curve Of his models, their thickness,
their bulge of back and belly, and even
the queer unaccountable f-shaped open
ings must be initiated with abject servil-
ity in order to produce fine instrument.
Had the Cremona makers any theory, or
did they work by rule of thumb" or,
more probably, did they, by patient and
persevering study Of a number OF fall
ures, arrive at practical truth by prac-
tical exhaustion of error H-Gentleman's
Magazine.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Land for sale.

rNHE WHOLE OR y PART OF
Il my Farm, two miles below the town of
Orangcburg, on the South Carolina Rail-
way and the public roads leading to Char
lesion, containing about 500 acres, part
cleared, balance finely timbered., Some
splendid swamp land. a335 acres heavily
pine timbcrcd, adjoining and lying. East
and West of roads TO Charleston. To I've
subdiyided in lots of 50 to 50 acres and sold,
unless sold in entire. These lots Will be
fine lots for residences.
jan 1S-It y. II. FltEDEklCN,
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
yuBss. =. Ya. El.aEe'G'EGG

y3TUL. on TIE ljTI CT MARCH,
~ resume business, and invites the at
tcntion of the Ladies to her Stock OF ne"
and attractive Millinery and Fancy Goods,
embracing all the Novelties OF the season
Next door to DR.. 5. y. Reeves Drug Store,
Orangeburg, S. e.. Feb. 2J-3nloS
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Buffalo Breeding Out in Kansas.

Buffaloes are now bred in Kansas for
sale, and calves bring $50 each, where,
twenty years ago, herds of thousands of
these cattle ranged over the prairie with
cut interference.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15

~. Trans Will run a follows until 1ur-
ther notice:
GREENyILLE EXPRESS
Going West, Daily Through Train.
Depart Charleston ......... TO Il Il
Depart Branchville ..... ...."........ S.5l nj
Depart Orangeburg" 9.l4 III
Depart kingville.. .....".. 1905 ~
Due ut Columbia. ......... ...........10.40 a m
Going East, Daily Through Train.
Depart Columbia. .......... ........0.2l p IN
Depart kingvillc...... ................6.0I p m
DepaftSt. MattheWS.... ....6.30 p III
Depart Orangeburg. ................ .6.i5 p III
Due nj CnarleSt0n.. $40 p III
ACCOMMODATION LOCAL TRAIN.
Going West, Daily.
Depart Charleston. ......... .........."5.10 p NJ
Depart Branchvillc. ......... ...""...7.30 p m
Depart Orangcburg. ...."....S.O4 p m
Depart st. Matthews. s.................".8.40 p m
Depart Kingville ........".".".....9.e9 p m
Due at Columbia....... ......"".."10.0O p m
Going East, Daily.
Depart Columbia. .."........""."...7.45 m
Depart Kingville. ...... .......h.""."8.35 m
Depart st. Matthews. .......... ......."9.05 IL
depart tOrangeDurg...... ....".."" .9.45 q Ill
Depart Branchville.. e....."... ".""..10.20 m
Due at Charleston. ........."12.32 p
CAMDEN TRAIN.
West, Daily, Except Sunday.
Depart Kingville. n 6.12 p m
Due at Camden. ....... ....12.47 pm 7.42 m
East, Daily, Except Sunday.
Depart Camden. .........7.00 m 3.15 p m
Due at Kinsgville. .......S.30 m 5.47 p m
AUGUSTA DrV1sIoN.
West, Daily.
Depart Branchville-
2.sS am s.5Oam 7.35pm
Sam s.47am s.aap m
Due at Augusta
,,.n.r+ .,,o,,s+s East Daily.
Depart A0S7ssoa 7.seam 4,45pm 1895 p m
s:12am e.s4pm l.41 m
Due at Branchville-
1O.12am 7.32 3.15 m
BARNwELL r. r.
West, Daily except Sunday.
Depart Blackville....."..9.55 m $40 p m
Due Barnwell. 40 p m 9.10 p m
East.
Depart Barnwell........ 1924 a m 5.15 p M
Due Blackville.. .8.49 m coop III
WAY FREIGHT AND PASSENGER TRAIN.
Daily, except Sundays. Stops at all stations
Depart Branchville. .......... .........G.2O III
Due COlumDla ."...... ..."U.z0 Ill
Depart Columbia. ."....:. "....5.05 p nj
Due Branchyille...... ....".........9.2o p m
Passengers to and from stations on Cam
den Branch change cars at Kingville.
Passengers to or from stations on Angus
To- Division change cars at Branchrille,
also at Blackyille for 3arnWell.
Connections made at Columbia with Co
lumbia and Greenville Railroad by train ar
irving at Columbia at 1910 A. Dl. ana de-
parting at 5.27 p. N. Connections made at
Columbia Junction with Charlotte, Colunl-
bia and Augusta Railroad, also BY
these trains to and from all points
on both roads. Connection made at Charles
ton with steamers for New York on Wednes-
days and Saturdays; also, with Savannah
and Charleston Railroad to all points South.
Connections are made at Augusta witt
Georgia Railroad and Central Railroad to
and from all points West and SOutk-
Connections made at Blackville with Barn.
well Railroad to and from Bamwell by
evening trains.
Through Tickets can he purchased to al
points South and West by applying to
D. C. ALLEN,
General Passenger and Ticket Agent
JSSN B. PECK, General Manager.
SHs PosTELL, Agent at Orangeburg.
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15

There is no elimination in musical pro-
duct of Germany, 5,4TS distinct pieces
having been published in that county
last year
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Sortl, Carolina Railway.
GREENyILLE EMPRESS

4 Commencing on Jan. Sd, 1856, Passenger
~ Trains will run a follows until fur'
ther notice:
The times and democrat. [volume] (Orangeburg, S.C.) 1881-current, 1886-04-15
Van OlSdGIIS Photograph Gallery
OVER g. B. OWENS, Russell Street,
Orangeburg, S. G..

TO THE PUBLIC: l have opened first
class Photo Gallery. would be pleased to
have samples of work examined at Gallery.
All work strickly tirst-class.
Photos Of Groups and Babies a speciality
by Instant method. All Viewing EXteriors,
Dwellings, Horses, Dogs and Animals
taken at short notice by instant method.
Old pictures copled.and enlarged. Special
attention given to this branch of work.
Pictures finished in water cOlOrs, India Ink
and Crayon. Also Photo taken from the
size of smallest pocket to fnll life 3x5 feet
All work done with ncatness and dispatch.
Viewing any where ip the State. Special
discounts OIL all orders ovcrSl0.0O. Give
he a CALL | will assure satisfaction. All
work CASH on DELIVERY. Positively
no credit. VAN OlSDELL, Artist, .
July II Russell Street. Orangeburg, S. &.
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Prices much reduced, You can get an ele-
CANT Robe and Trimmings complete for
1926.
III rs POSITIVELY TRUE
HENRY KOHN is selling DRY GOODS
cheaper tins Spring, than they have ever
been sold before.
Calicoes from 81 cents up.
Dress Ginghams cents up.
10 inch India Lawn 1914 cents.
Pacific Colored Lawns 81 cents, former
price 1871 cents.
Al Bleaching cents, former price TO-.
Handercheifs at 3 cents.
1000 yards of Remnants Of Worsted
Dress Goods at 6 cents and up.
ID0 YOU WANT
a nice and cheap SUMMER DRESS, if so
HENRY KOHN'S is the place, you can
get Satteens, Ginghams, Cambrics, Grena-
dimes, Surah Silks, Grosgrain Silk, Black
Tricotiue, India Foulards, China Pongees,
Spanish and Oriental Lace Nets for Suits.
1BpUNV<U n, d,u n,u,uu
is the popular wash goods this season.
Large variety at HENRY KOHN'S. Is
cents per yard.
Novelties in striped and figured Bourette
Camels Hair Cloth, Albertross Nuns Veil
ings, Egyptian Suitings.
NlOURNHNG GOODS.
We have been induced to keep the genuine
FRENCH MUSLINS AND SATEENS,
also Tamise Albertross, Grape Cloth, Tri-
cot Homespun, Batiste, Cashmeres and
Silk Warp Henrietta Cloths, all warranted
to give satisfaction.
IAClIS
Elegant variety Of all over LaceS. Orien-
tai and Egyptian Flounclng and Edgings,
newest designs.
"WAIyE GOT YOJ ON THE
LlST'''
young man to sell you SPRING SUIT OF
CLOTHING. You know that HENRY
KOHN is Headquarters for MEN AND
BOYS CLOTHING. 1t is needless to 80
into details, but our CLOTHING this sea-
son is all made up with the Patent Square
Shoulders and Corset fitting waists. We
have also the Crinkle, Goats and Vests.
And suits for extra size men.
s'llODGES''
is the name of the best UNLAUNDRIED
SHIRT have ever handled, and have
had the "Globe," Diamond" and "Qua.
ker City," but this "uODGES" SHIRT
| beats them all. Price Sl.OO. We still
have that Wonderful so cent linen bosom
Shirt.
LADIES HATS.
A very choice line of Ladies TRIM MED
HATS for early Spring Wear. All the
new shapes.
AAlD GLOVES,
BOYS CLOTHING, new Spring Styles.
11AT"TlNGS,
Art Squares, Canton Mattings in all colors,
and plain from 12E cents per yard.
BODY BRUSSELS, TAPESTRY AND
INGRAM,
HOLLAND SHADES, one yard wide and
two yards long. with fancy dads, sprin.
rollers all complete S1.OO
LACE CURTAISS
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URIC GUANO.

TO THE MANY ENQUlRERSI WOULD
state that one car has arrived. d, The de-
mand for this MANURE will be larger
than supposed.
10 CASH BUYERS the price will be re-
markably low.
Orders filled as rapidly as possible.
no OWNERS OF STEAM
MILLS, &c., sc.
have just received a lot of WROUGHT
IRON 4, q and inch, PIPING, COUP
LINGS, ELBOWS, b. G. BRASS VALVES,
CHECK VALVES and PACKING STUFF