New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-11-20


e 9-wnen, An the evening don't remember
Q.-wheros Alt MeIoughlins ,
0-Who were present Al think all the thirteen.
G-Including the defendant Ayes sir ,..
0-Now Mr. Fullgraf what was discussed at that meet,
ing Alt said that there had not been any money
maid over think Lacy said it not wise 10 DC 700
anxious-that we would have it. -, 1900. ,,or
Q-Was any money paid Al was PAD some ai'er
Q~whcn and by whom Al got 5000 from ID, DE
Lacy week after The money was paiu peioie 'n'
QDYou remember that the final vote was on December
5. We're you paid before that A-fes, SIT: .yes.
Odd you receive any money aiterwardf A-io''
ODD YOU have any conversation with this defendan,
afterwardi A.-Yes sir !; asked him whether nc so'
The money and he said all right" 80.
' o'~Where was this conversation AIN the ante
O.IWhen AFTER I had received mine Perhaps
five or six days after the vote OF December D.
MR.. NEWCOMERS SEVERE QUESTIONING.
Mr. Nicoll here closed the examination of Fugrat anu
tho witness as turned over TO the tender merces OF Mr.
Newcombe. which turned out TO be exceedingly cruel
He brought the witness face to face with repeated
ais OF perjury his part, made him confess 10 al
of false statements before the Senate oonm''ec anu
made him so uncomfortable that at recess fnhgiah was
In perspiraon trembed nervously and declared 70 ms
friands. This is a very hell" Mr. Newcombe uttered
some Of his questions with effect Of scathng reonKe
The examination ran:
Q-The fall OF 1888 was the first time tha' you ri o
oWas it the last time A-No sir ran in the fa
of SIS and was defeated.
Q.-Have you a fsmilyi Ayes. sir.
9Yon have been particularly devoted to your family
Q.-iIave you lived long in the same neishborhood'
Ayes, sir, fifteen years $500 ~, o,or,,no+on 20
the testimony given by Fullgra before the senate Kali
road Committee which examined Into the building a Sr Ie
at the present time instead Of swearing on me BiOe anu
Fu said that he always dd so ana ha done so
was misunderstood by the witness and led TO ~,
change in the oath The witness mot so M
the question: replied prom remorse from Deg al
nEno M % 10 that the question related only the
form Of oath. MIR Neweombe continued. Va .,r
o.-You wonld not deliberately commit perjury under
any circumstance A.-Ee. sir, .. ,r.,,uo q tol,ow
0-You wOui3 .at commit perjury - 1nuic lo',
enemy and you would not commit perjury !" o'ne"'
s9Von remember being witness before the Senate
Committee In the early part of the year rs sH
asking Of the questions mat fGowGG M md c
witness appeared almost faint until glass OF wafer vas
handed to him 1t was admitted by e 81 MA
resolution and that it met in this city, ana men
number of questions and answers. In which fullgran
said that he did not recocct WIN me ant
room OF the Board go
Q.-That was untrue. was It'll A.-Yes, sir. a..
Q.-You knew it to be untrue when you said III A.
Citizen you deliberately committed perjuryi Al
Don't Won know you did, Ayes sir.
0-Yon were not then giving testimony TO save your
sell from conviction for bribery Al lTled 10 save
The answer was interrupted by Mr.. Newcomhe who re
heated the question. and Fugraf said - NO, sir.
BRINGIvG Up FORMER TESTIMONY.
The examination as to Fnllgras testimony before tho
Senate Committee continued through large part OF the
afternoon At one point Mr. Newcombc read an answer
in which Fuligaph denied that he knew OF corruption III
the Board OF 1884. and then asked:
You said "Thcre was talk Of corruption but could not
a. hin il Z " Al
Mr. Newcombe leaned far forward and said with en-
phasis Of "Y0u knew that you were lying "heh
Mr. Nicoll objected in loud voice and the Recorder
said You might put II dlnerenly to vi; ruS, ,,
You then knew that what you were saying was untrue
Mr. %ewcombe-You knew then that you we're commit
ting tbe crime of perjury Ayes sir ~ ~
Mr. Ncwcoube referred testimony In which fulgrah
cave reasons for refusing the franchise aud asked Now
thought good plan Ayes, sir with the eNcepuoh
of this inducenent -,
The Kecorder-You mean the money of which you have
spoken Ayes. sir. -, - 80.
Mr. Ncwcombe-Thcn You suppressed that in your tcst
mony before the Senate Committee A.-Yes sir
Wien asked why he had made certain answer to Mt
Niles before the senate Committee Fullraph said "
said "a because thought Mr. Niles ought to know
thing about doodle" because he in the Legislature
o.Iwhat did youunderstand "boodle" to mean A.
I snppose money dishonesty acquired.
Q.EAs membero Of the Board OF Aldermen Avs
The Rccorler-You mean bribns' Ats brOlns'
FsPaph said that he continued to adhere to the state,
|
Q~Wsre You not arrested by the District Attorney for
The Rec0rder-Yes. you must.
The witnessYes. sir. -,
Q.-Was that some other charge OF bribery A--hcs'
On connection with some other road A-Yes, sir.
necon with another road was presented to you al the
time of your arrest Ayes, sir .... .,.o.,, ,,,,
| O-Were You asked to make a statement about the
| Broadway franchise Ayes, sir
Q-Nas any promise or inducemcnt held out to you
o.-Wiat was that promise or inducements A.-That
should be protected that would not be Tried Tor Diioe1
| as TO matters before the Board
| HOW FuLLGRAFF CAME TO CONFESS
| O-IIow did you come make the statement Al
was approacbed by Mr.. MARITIME, Mr. Nicoll and Mr.
Byrnes make statement the passage of the Broad
way franchise 1t about six weeks ago was under
arrest at Police Headquarters wanted to go home ana
see INV family Mr. MARITIME at first was unwilling but
after consultation he consented went up home and
laid the before my family waited Tor my sonlh
law in and told him about IT, ne anu the o1eI;
advised me 70 S e ana raoms with the detective and made
O~Was any statement shown you made by any one
ese in regard TO the same revelations A.-SometAnl
was shown that puported TO be statement OF Alderman
ogWas It not your arrest for the second crime that LEI
you to make this statement A-No sir; WANTED TO- D..
o. understand that you felt reinOisef Al 10 Zee
| reIiorse. | am hunilitated:
In seornfgl tone-Then suppose you have re
Q.-Have you or have you not returned the ~ 5000
which YOU say you have received in violation vi you
| oathl Al intend to do II If God lets me live
Q.-Have you returned the money which you receivet
on that other matter which you were arrested! A
intend to do So should have made that restitution lone
| ago If 1t had not been for others.
Fullgra stated the amount he received In the ctne
bribery as 81 900 This probably In the IhIty
fonrthst Railroad mattcr Mr.. Newcombe read the OH
| ciaI oath which Fulgrad took as an Alderman anl
asked: ~, , nj. , -
| Q-IIad you forgotten your oath OF Office when you
| took that action A.-Yes sir
Q-Do you mean to say that you had forgoltenlt II, OF
that you dsregarded It'll Al must have forgotten II oi
| would not have done as cid.
Mr. Newcombe asked the names OF all who were present
Mt the meeting OF the thirteen members and tullgraf
added Cleary, ONcil and Reilly TO the names he hao
previously given Reilly In tho courtroom at the
time and the others had been present in the course OF tue
| day. ,,, II. a.. -
| Mr. Newcombe soon after eliclting that fact gave
| nm the cross-eyamnation and Mr.. Nicoll asked
| some further questions. He made some inquiries
about Mr. Neweonbes legal ADVICE TO fIdg , , an