The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-04-25
MIR. CARNEGIE's VIEWS,
The Great Iron Master Talks About Home
Rule and the Labor Troubles.

The Great Master Talks About Home
Rule and the Labor Troubles.
Pittsburg Dispatch.
II have so much confidence in Mr.. Gladstone"
he said, and in his intentions and desires in re-
gard to ireland, and know so we'll that he is
the best judge of what measures he can carry,
that disposed to regard with favor any
measure that he resolves to stand upon. The
measures he has laid before the House will not
pass in the shape in which he proposed them,
nor did he probably expect them to do so. If he
lives and has health he will carry the measure in
some form which is to give home rule to Ireland;
and so far as his personal wishes are concerned,
the measures he will finally carry will likely be
much moro satisfactory than those he has deemed
necessary to propose. But even il the Liberals
under Gladstone fail to carry these measures,
and the Tories come into power, the latter will
be compelled to give Ireland still larger conces-
sions than those proposed by their opponents. 1
rest content, in perfect confidence that Ireland's
cause is won; she will very soon rule herself,
Just as Pennsylvania does to-day"
care you in favor of separate government
for Ireland2"
mo, sir. fought secession here. and I fight
it yonder. The coming English republic is to be
composed of three stars, of which Ireland will
not be the least brilliant"
what do you think of Mr.. Chamberlain's po-
sition2"
''His position was sound one, and if had
been in Parliament / should probably have sym
bill. The measure that will eventually be car
ried will be supported by Mr. Chamberlain. The
home rule bill will be all right, but don't feel
like brlblng the rapacious absentee landlords of
Ireland as the proposed land bill does. |
would be willing to pay for home rule, but
would like to be sure that payment was neces-
sary. Mr.. Chamberlain's opposition springs
from this feeling"
s'What is the effect of American pinion on
the course of events in EnglandW
&c nxul1 ptinna To he far
recently sympathy for Ireland has not been con-
fined to sh-Americans, but has come from the
leading men of this country. When such repre-
sentative men Anthony Drexel and G. w.
Childs contribute to the cause of Ireland, it
means that Mr.. Parnel can get 800 in place of
every 81 he has hitherto received. American
opinion is becoming more and more powerful in
Britain. So it ought to be- When the me iorty
of the English-speaking race speaks out from
this side, the smaller division must take heed"
1t is hardly necessary to add that Mr.. Carne-
gle has had the advantage of direct intercourse
with the great leaders of the Liberal party in
England and continues that intercourse to-day,
and so is able to speak with more authority than
perhaps any other man in America upon the
tendency of English politics. Before the inter-
view closed, Mr.. Carnegie was asked to advert
to domestic affairs, and give his opinion on the
state of business in the United States. He said:
II think we are working steadily toward bet
ter times, but in iron and steel Except railsl
beginning of the year. Manufacturers are worse
off because the increased cost caused by ad-
vances in the price of labor. transportation and
material have not been fully covered as YET by
the advance of manufactured articles"
"How do you regard the almost universal dis
turbances between labor and capitala Are they
not going to produce serious results2"
''The injury will be only temporary There is
excitement at present among the laboring
classes, and they are disposed to act hastily A
reaction will set in, and all will be quiet again"
what remedy have you against these strikes2'
arbitration of differences in all cases. The.
party who refuses to arbitrate is in the wrong
whether he be the employer or the employed
and the decision of the arbitrator can take
feet from the date OF reference, there is no ex-
cuse for one hours interruption to business. If
such interruption occur, the fault lies with the
party who refuses to submit his cause to the de-
cision of an impartial tribunal"
In conclusion, Mr.. Carnegie, in reply to a
question. said he wished co operation could be
made to work. and some day it would. no doubt
prevail, but the Intern ediate steps could not be
passed over. We must first make strikes and
lockouts obsolete as the duel, by peaceful ar
bitration, then get wages based apn.i the prices
of products. After that stage had been fully
reached the world woulc be ready to undertake
industrial cooperation. Wherever a business
can to-day be done on shares, such as farming
or fishing. 1t is the best mode--but much has to
be done before the workingmen in our large
manufacturing concerns would be benefited by
sharing the gains and losses OF their EMPLOYERS
The majority of men who engage in business
make losses, not gains The men will be, upon
the whole, much better off with fair and assured
wages based upon prices of products, and free
from all chance of losing part of these wages
from losses of the business.