The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-04-16


were wrong. Let us arbitrate this question to
see whether they wrong not
Mr. Gould-This strike was made because the
receiver of the Texas Pacific discharged man.
There never was a complaint or any pretext that
we had done anything; on the contrary, they
said we had not they had no cause against US.
Mr. McDowell-The practical question, right
here seems to be that Mr.. Gould expresses him
self IN the strongest way as a believer in and in
favor OF arbitration. Mr.. Powderly asks arbi-
tration and all agree to arbitration. Now to
have arbitration; if Mr.. Hoxie is put out there,
nominated, and these gentlemen are to go there
and close it up, say the all-important thing
seems to be that they are ordered to 60 to work,
and all these questions settled by arbi-
tration, IL there are any questions after
ward. After they are at work. they are to have
that done. If this law only was law, you would
have It legal under the law. MIR. Powderly Is
very sick man. and he wants to go away.
mir. Could say on that subject that am In
favor of arbitration as q principle OF settlement
OF wrongs or claims between individuals. 1t is
really what the law provides. Our law here
provides short method of arbitration for differ
enees. 1t isn't anything new. 1t Is short way
of getting at result, and am in favor Of that
as principle: and told Mr.. Hoxie who is the
great head of this corporation, who has this
whole subject under his control. that so far as
the board Of directors are concerned here, they
see no objection to arbitration be-
tween the employees and the company.
Now, this arbitration, as ! under
stand It, should be between an individual
and the company. We have got fifteen thousand
employees, and what said here applies to every
one of these fifteen thousand employes-that is,
if they have any differences with the Missouri
Pacific company, that individual be he one or
hundred, so far as the board are concerned, we
are ready to arbitrate those differences with
these men.
Mr. MCDOWELL don't see that you differ in
any way in that, whether the arbitration is be-
tween the employees and the railroad, or between
the Knights Of Labor and the railroad Do you,
Mr.. Powderyq
Mr.. Powderly-No
Mr.. McDoweil-Only in the method Of the ap-
pointment Of arbitrators
Mr.. Gould-This very bill provides for ndi-
vidual arbitration. The individual cannot merge
his rights. His rights as an individual; he
cannot merge them. 1t has got TO be passed on
as an individual
Mr.. Hopkins-You ought to recollect, in the
first place, it is very important thing. I think
that the very moment there was shadow, even
of difficulty coming up between the Knights of
Labor. that we supposed we're our friends and
this railroad company. that instant a telegram
was sent from here, saying, I'VE are told by the
employees that they have grievances;
striking not on account of any grievance of their
own, but by order issued by organization
saying. You must strike, whether You want to
strike or not, ~ and we say, NOW, if there is
any grievance, come and talk it over, and see if
got All answer to that message and three weeks
after that after our men had been, two or three
of them, injured. attempts having been made to
kill them, resulting in injuring them very badly;
our bridges have been burned, our cars have
been smashed up our locomotives destroyed,
and our business pretty much ruined-then Mr..
Powderly comes on here and says II would like
TO arbitrate"
Mr.. Bailey-well don't think it is any use
for US to be hair-splitting and cross. firing We
have made our nominations. [ think the next
thug to do is to say, "Are you willing to make
yours. or does it end right hereW We have told
what we have done and what we willing to
do; we want to settle: We want to have every
thing done for the protection of the company's
property and the protection of our people.
Mr.. McDowel1-Mr. Could you were going to
read that
Mr. Gould-Let him read first the report of
the Governors
Mr.. MCDOWELL don't think 1 would. Every
one here has seen it.
Mr.. Gould-Mr Powderly said he hadn't on
Sunday.
Mr.. MCDOWELL took the paper down there,
and laid it before him.
Mr.. Gould-It seems to me an important mat
ter to show that these men have been over this,
and what there verdict is
Mr.. McDowell-It is settled.
Mr.. Gould-Let us see what they say.
George j. Gould---This is the letter Of Gov
ernor Marmaduke and Governor Martin tReads):
After careful investigation we are unable to find
violated the terms and conditions of the agreement
made on the 18th day of March, 1885. touching the
employees in respective States. No complaint has
ever been made to the Governor If Missouri
based on alleged violation of such agree.
ment, and but has been made to
the Governor Of Kansas and that, on investigation,
proved to be unjust We therefore forced to the
conclusion that the strike Of March g. 1885 could
not have been and was not based violation of the
Missouri Pacific Railway Company in its dealings with
its employees in Missouri and Kansas. We recognize
the fact that the Missouri Pacific Railway Company
may justly claim that the strike of March g.
1886, relieves it of the obligations 1t assumed
in the circular of March Is, 1885, but
nevertheless, anxious that amicable relations be
stored between the Missouri Pacific Railway Company
and it's employees and especially that the far inn
portant interests involved in the mighty commerce of
the States of Missouri and Kansas should not suffer
and that the great highways of business and travel
should be at once reopened to the public would
respectfully and earnestly suggest and recommend
that the agreement embodied in the circular of March
Is. 1855. be restored in letter and
spirit. and that the Missouri Pacific Railway
company reemploy in its service all of its old en-
poyes without prejudice to them account Of the
late strike, far the business of the company viii
justify their unemployment and make these sugges
leve. alike of the company and its employees, and
especially the greater interests of the
and people of the two States.
Governor of Kansas.
JOHN S MARMADUKE,
Governor of Missouri.
Mr. Gould-Now that is the report of the two
Governors.
Mr. George j. Gould-To which Mr.. Hoxie re-
piled that he would do it, excepting alone people
who had violated the laws of the States, and
that we would not discharge men whom we had
employed since the strike.
Mr.. Could understood you to say, on Sun
day Mr.. Powderly, that fast we furnished
you the names of those that injured Our property
that you wonld see that they were expelled?
Mr.. Powaerly-What Is thatl
Mr.. Could understood You. on Sunday, to
saw that as fast as we furnished you the names
of those members who had injured our property
you would see that they were expelled.
Mr Powderly-I said that our organization al
ways did, when man violated the law or com
mitted an act OF violence If they were found
guilty of any conduct that was not proper, we
should proceed against them, and say now if
men have been guilty of destroying property.
burning bridges, or anything of that kind just