New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1886-06-02
4MBERLAIN SHOWS HIS HAND
GREETED WITH CHEERS AND HOWLs.
rppoAR IN THE HOUSE OF CoMMoNs-A FEDERATION
SCHEME FOR IRELAND.

rppoAR IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONs-A FEDERATION
SCHEME FOR IRELAND.
JoyDoy. June 1.-The debate on the liome
Rule bill In the House OF Commons was resu"eu 'He
afternoon by Mr. Chamberlain. When he rose IN
mace he was greeted with derisive cheers and hows
from the irish members lie denied the assertion naie
no T Dsver GRAY that he Chamberlain was the author
of h, article on national councils published in me Fort
,,;gh Rerie,r and said that Mr. Gray Enew very well
VINO The author and that the details ol the arce
were supplied from Irish sources.
"Imysef possess" said the speaker. "incontrovert-
ha and jncontesiible proof that eminent Nationalist
leaders have approved principle of national coun-
Cils."
Io,e the P,rnees uttered loud howls and cried out
"Names!" "Names." and the Conservatives anu
Whirs chccred Mr.. Chamberlain. The denunciauoh
ana cheering quickly became an upfoar wn'cn
,,s,ea several minutes. Mr. Chamberlain calmly
folded his arms and smiling. waited for the tumu' 10
,nhsidc but he refused 10 mention tho names caiAeu
for ,.,
why he deemed Mr. Glalsone's concessions inadequate.
lie did not continued, propose 10 repy 10 any u '
ro,al made toward himself in the course
M the debate They were perhaps ahnsihg' ou. INC!
wore below the level OF great constitutional dlscussio"
nj ouest!ons fraught with the most nOinehous co"se-
ouepces Those who oppose the Home Rule measure
believe that would prove most mischevous IN s enec'
upon Ireland postpone for long time satisfactory
settlement OF the Irish question lCrles OF hear'
"hcar,"l There had been IN some Liberal quarters
desire TO minimize The importance OF division on the
second reading OF the bill Members mad been told mat
mo nil WAS already dead. The speaker
c,1 not believe that Mr.. Gladstone "onld
accent a vote the second ieauihs Oh 'no
understanding that IL wou1 be received only rs an a
proysl OF the abstract resolution that leann ough. 10
have a Parliament OF her own. Had the Government
.nh,ittei a mere resolution affirming the princiIe oi
legislative autonomy ireland he chamberlain coud
have voted for IT. because 1t would uaVe peeh CONSIST
eut either with the creation OF chainOer Ke 'no "i"'
tan Parliament or with the estabhshment OF eSsa'
I've conncil such as the speaker had suggested anu
which had ere now received the support OF Nationaists
,,-,os from the Parneltes of "nomes." names.'l J
The Government proposal. however had stronger
meaning than that OF mere abstract reSou'ioi "s "
p,adeed the House the support OF the prncipe Vi 'e
Home Rule bi from which ar Gladstone said he would
never depart. - . 49,
rho sneaker and those who thought with him had
boped since Mr Gadstone's speech at the foresn VI
fe that the Home rule bill might he so reodeiieu 'na
they could vote for IT, but they had Dee" u'Sap'
pointed. Mr. Gladstone had sihco Prao.i'a''
stated I'm the House OF Commons th"t II
IN. h,u passed its second reading 1t would be su'
nendc until October and then be introduced uhaered
,xcept IN minor details concerning the feature oi s
r@uteseutation at Westminster 1hose VINO "s'c'u
win the sneaker did wish reduce Ireland 10 the
condition OF a self governing colony ana the chshee"
rosad nv Mr. Gladstone would not meet the Vows OF
those who maintained this posltion' Onuer INC
.o,..d ,ronosa of the Premier irish members might
be invited to take part IN discussion aoou' anu 'o'o
m I,ner,a, expenses like those OF the Russian and
Egyptian wars Questions relating 10 sucn i"''oi'
were constantly arising and in order TO take chec''e
mari in the discussion and settlement lrish me"pers
would require he constantly present at "esthns'or
I, would be impossible to make tue
IIouse OF Commons hnctuating oooy'
ma IL would be under tho Gladstone proposals
II wmld be equally to create an Irish Para-
ment "a q subordinate and not as co-ordina'e pouy'
Fcneers What they wanted was to prevent the Irish
members from becoming omnipotent ether At "csT
minister or at Dublin. lCheers ana counter chocrs'I
RESISTANCE OF The ULsfEklIEs.
As 10 Ulster that was very important nN''er' lr"i
Nellie Iaughterl The speaker would not 10 into inc
Of armed resistance, although he resented as
absurd the Parntte charge that he had Said any nh
melting TO assassination outrage checrs-put 'ne
re,,stance of Ulster a Dublin government were eA
ptessed I'm nstitutional wonld the brtsn
OF Commons override disregard mat resis'@ncc
I"Iear, bear."l Why had the resistance OF the ffo-
tessns OF Ulster heen siigmatzcd as unpatriouc was
because they proud OF belonging 10 tuo pie"'
empire and opposed being cut arift from
associations as members OF the United hIbKdom' Ill
dofeudng Ulster lie governed by no religious utter
mesa There could, however, be no doubt thal lhe
Iroestants of Ulster peace ui Tor tneir rene,o
Interests lie belong family that ai"aJs opposo
sLyiAlDg Ike religious asceDdaDcy. lte WAS cou'ineo
that Proeanis Ulster had just cause 10 lear et
tenpts by the IRISH Catholics 10 secure pren
The Catholic Church, by ir tcnes ana py i1
bound content with eQualtty' lCrics OF oh
Vh!"l Henbers from >land say no. nero "s P"'N