St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1886-06-06
A Lively Debate in the House Regarding
the Pending Extension
Measure.
Holman, Morrison and Crisp Make Vigor-
GUS and Somewhat Personal
Remarks.
Action on the Bill Deferred Until This
Week--A Question of Statistic
cal Veracity.
The House Judiciary Committee
Makes Changes in the Ed
munds Bill.
Pacific Railroads Extension Bill

house determined to consider it. 1t was
agreed that the previous question should be
considered as ordered at o'clock, unless
the debate should exhaust itself at an earlier
hour. Mr.. Cultivate of Ohio reviewed the
status of the relations between the Pacific
companies and the government and called
attention to the fact that the Indebtedness
to the government was increasing at the
rate OF over $1,000. 900 annually, and that
the time was rapidly drawing near when
the companies must be called upon to pay
the debt. and the question presented was
whether congress would permit the debt to
go on increasing until time of it's maturity
and risk the possibility of the companies
being able to meet their obliga-
tons at that time. He then
proceeded to take up seriatim
the sections of the bill to explain their
provisions and point out out the advantages
which would accrue to the government by
their enactment into law. Mr.. Henly of
California opposed the bill. He attributed
to Charles Francis Adams a statement that
the free pass list of the Union Pacific rail-
road cost the government So, 900 per day.
Mr.. Long of Massachusetts said that Mr..
Adams courted the fullest investigation.
There was nothing to be concealed in the
management of the road. Mr. Henly said
that if the allegations contained in the res
olutiOns were true Charles Francis Adams
and his associates
SHOULD BE WEARING THE STRIPES
OF convict in penitentiary. If the allie
cations had been made against the gentle
man from Massachusetts, (Mr. Long, OR
any other honorable man he would have
rushed into the presence of the Pacific rail-
road committee and have said: Gentle
men, here are allegations in the form of a
resolution introduced into the house, re-
fiecting on the integrity of my company,
and myself as man, and [ demand that
these matters shall be investigated"
Mr.. Long (emphatically)-Mr. Adams
demands an investigation.
Mr.. Henley--He did not appear before
the committee to invite an investigation.
Mr.. Richardson of Tennessee-Mr.
Adams did appear before the committee,
and said he would invite any examination
that the house saw fit to make.
Mr.. Henley reaffirmed his belief that Mr..
Adams would not submit to an investiga-
ton if he could help it.
Mr.. Long-I challenge you to put it to
the test.
Mr. Henley proceeded to argue against
the bill, and declared that it was time to
apply heroic remedy to the case of the
Pacific railroads. Mr.. Hayden of Massa-
chussetts inquired who it was that had
drawn up the resolution of investigation
offered by Mr.. Henley. Mr. Henley re-
piled that that made no difference. The
question was. whether the allegations were
true. He assumed the paternity of the
resolution.
Mr.. Hayden knew who gave you the
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thropist from New York, Col Jones.
Mr.. Henley explained that there had
been two sets OF resolutions, one of which
had been presented in the honse. The
other-the one given him by Col. Jones
had been presented by him to the commit
tee.
% Mr.. Hayden-Whered did he get it?
Mr. Henley-I don't know and L don't
care. 1t may have been done to advance
stock transactions. l don't know. All 1
care to know is whether the companies
have been transgressing the law. 1t does
not matter who prepared the resol,. .-ons or
what the animus was that inspired them.
All [ want to know is whether the allega-
lions are true. Mr.. Weaver Qowa) op-
posed the pending bill and advocated the
proprlety OF the government in eleven
years paying off the first mortgage lien.
Mr.. Warner (Ohio) opposed the bill and
expressed the opinion that the proper
thing for the government to do was to
PAY OFF THE FIRST MORTGAGE BONDS
and become the sole mortgage of the
property. Mr.. Springer also opposed the
bill, declaring that the roads are in a pros
porous condition and contending that at the
time the debt would mature, under existing
law, the roads would be valuable property.
1t was proposed now to investigate the man
agement OF the railroads. and he thought that
that investigation should take place before
congress passed law which would put the
question out of its hands for seventy wears.
He favored postponing the further discus
sion of the bill until the next session of
when the house might be in the
possession of information which would en-
able it to act intelligently. Mr.. Holman of
Indiana opposed the bill and quoted from
the report of the commissioner of railroads
to the effect that the net annual earnings of
the Union Pacific railroad were IS, 738. 4O7
and OF the Central Pacific 1890, 81. Mr..
Morrison of Illinois said that the govern
ment was receiving from the Pacific Rail-
road company less money year by year and
that the roads were falling further short
every year of paying interest. If he knew
that his bill would better secure the debt
owing the government, or if he believed
that the government could get more money
put of the railroads of course he would
vote for it. AS he did not know it he did
not know how he was going to vote. In
answer to reference made by Mr.. Weaver
to Mr.. Morrison's vote on the act of 1864.
MIR. Morrison said he remembered well
what had occurred on the night
that the house passed that act
in 1864. He remembered that more
men had come to the house
than had come to the vote. The only men
ne remembered that voted who were in the
present congress- were the gentleman from
Indiana (Mr. Holman) and the gentleman
from Illinois (himself). He had voted on
one side and the gentleman from Indiana
On the other. He had come from the arlnv.
and
WAS A UNION MAN.
The other gentleman professed to be
laughter. and he supposed he was. On
the Pacific ocean was brave, intelligent
people, largely Southern men, with big
brains and big hearts, who wanted to get
away, and Union men wanted to tie them
On. Half way between here and California
was people alien to US in religion and un-
lrlenuly 10 us. Inc question was presented.
''Will you tie these people on with the rail-
roads, to the Pacific, or will you let them
90 South, where the leading men desire to
goP" He had stood in his place and voted.
ne believed, mostly with Republicans, to
lie them on, and he took whatever RESPONSE
oility belonged to it. [AppIause]. He be-
ieved that it was best at the
lime, and he always did what
le believed to be best. He gave
hat vote. and he was not here to apologize |
or it. Mr.. Crisp, of Georgia, said that |
he gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Holman) !
cad from the report of the secretary of the |
Interior had made statements which were |
,alc ulated, and which he submitted, were |
deliberately intended to deceive the house. |
lie (Mr. Crisp had before him the identi- |
al document used by the gentleman, and |
n the book in connection with the identical |
statements from which he read were clear
Ind distinct refutations of what he had |
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