The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1886-09-07

Representative Richardson from the Commit
zee on Engrossing reported as ready. the bills, ~
TO continue the subsidy heretofore granted for
mall communication between the Hawaiian Is
lands and the United States of America; ~ to
amend section and of chapter "a of the Session
Laws of 1884, relating to street railroads
On motion, the permanent settlement bills were
taken from the table and placed in the order of
the day.
Third reading of the bill to facilitate mail COM
munication between the United States and the
Hawaiian Islands.
Representative kaunamano moved to strike out
the clause relating to rates of freight bananas.
Representative heau was opposed to the clause
being striken out. During the last two years 121-
900 bunches had been carried from Honolulu to
San Francisco by the .. S. S. company. At 70
cents bunch, this would be $50, $50 the company
had received. There are great many Hawailans
engaged IN the banana business. If the company
wanted subsidy they must come down to their
terms with regard to the freight on bananas. The
House ought to look after the interests of these
people engaged in this business The company
had many free privileges; which with the subsidy,
amounts to Sl00.000 year.
Hon. A. s. Cleghorn was also opposed to the
clause being taken out. At the present freight
rates on bananas, 70 cents per bunch, the pro-
ducer could not afford to continue in the business
and the result would be that in a short while the
steamers would have very little of that kind of
freight. With their high rates they were killing
the goose that was laying their golden eggs. He
argued in favor of assisting the planter and the
proposed reduction III freight would be an assis-
he thought, so he moved the previous question.
On motion the ayes and noes were taken on the
question of striking out the clause relative to
freight on bananas mot to exceed 80 cents per
BUNCH, and was carried, by the following vote
Ayes-The Ministers, Wilder Kapena Martin
Macfarlane, S. Parker, Hayseden, Amara, Kaulu-
kou, Pahia, Kaunamano, Nahale, Nahinu, ,Kaukau,
Kaai, Kauai, Palohau-l9.
Noes-Bishop, Cleghorn, hulhelani, Dowsett
Bush Kaae Keau, Lilikalani Kauhi, Kaulia
Wight, Kauhane, Castle, Dickey, Thurston, Pae-
haole, Dole-I7
Hon A. S. Cieghorn moved that Section / be
amended to read $1,000 instead of $780,
Representative Ihurston considered the amend
ment was a proper one. Several members had
voted for $500 on condition that the freight on
bananas be kept at 80 cents. He had been told
that the Oceanic steamship company had been
lobbying or corrupting sufficient number of
members to carry this through. He did not be-
fieve it, especially after the full discussion they
had had on the matter. They had the shame and
disgrace of seeing clause placed in bT majority
of ten or fifteen reduced to two to-day, and he
considered it the most disgraceful action that had
taken place during the session. When they see
such change, with rich corporation on one side
and poor farmers on the other, it was not one of
principle. 1t certainly was not to the advantage
of anyone but that rich corporation, and was an
other evidence of the influence of that rich cor
poration the affairs of the country. He hoped
the reduction would be made as arebuke to the
corporation.
Representative Hayselden said that Rep Thurs
ton had made some sweeping charges. He felt
however they did not reflect on him he had
voted the same way to-day as on Friday. The
member had right to bring street talk into the
Assembly and he challenged him to bring in the
name of the person who had told him such
thing.
Vote was now taken and the amendment was
lost by the following count:
Ayes-Bishop, Dominls, Cleghorn, Kuihelani, |
Dowsett, Bush, Kaae, Keau, Kauhi, Wight, Kau- |
hane Dlckey, Thurston, Paehaole and DOle-15.
Noes-Gibson, Creighton, Dare, Wilder, Kapena !
Martin, Macfarlane, 5. Parker Hayselden, Lili- |
kalani, Amara, Kaulia, Kaulukou, Pahia, Kauna-
mano Nahinu, Aholo, Kaukau Richardson, Castle /
Kauai, and Palohau-22.
Representative Castle moved to amend by ad-
ding freight on bananas not to exceed tifty-one
cents per bunch" He would be sorry to think
that any member present was improperly inhu-
enced in his vote. The question whether it
was a proper thing for them to try and regulate
the rates of freight and passage. 1t had always
been done. Now, the House wants to fix a rate
that will help the small producers. In view of the
facts which were self-evident, he asked the men,
berS to reverse their votes.
Representative Kaunamano said he had not
changed his vote as he did not vote at all on Fri
day. Many years ago, when Captain Patty was in
charge of the Comet he (the speaker) was in the
banana business. He sold to the middle man, and
did not trouble whether it paid or not The ban
ana business was Il bad one. A ripe bunch was
bad omen, bad luck. Bananas too pershable;
they will not stand shipment. The distance be-
tween San Francisco and here is too great for them
10 keep.
Representative Dickey asked permission to ask
the speaker a question, and having obtained it.
said ''he desired to know if Rep. kaunamano had
obtained the banana omen from the lately pub
ished dream book" Laughter.
Representative Kaunamano said the omen was !
0ne well known TO Hawaiians 1t was bad luck to
meet humpbacked, or one-eyed man, or to meet
person was about to transact business and should
meet either of the above named, he might well
urn round and 90 home, as he would havs no luck.
Laughter.
The motion to fix the rate at 81 cents was then q
'ut and lost by the following vote. /.
Ayes = Bishop Dominis, Cleghorn, Dowsett, !
3ush, kaae Keau Lilikalani, Kauhi Amara, .
Srown, Wight, kauhane, Castle, Dickey, Thurs
on, Paehaole Dole-1S.
Noes-Gibson, Creighton, Dare, Wilder Kuihe-
AMI Macfarlane, S. Parker, Hayselden, Kaulia, Z
Aaulukou, Pahia, Kaunamano, Nahinu Aholo, Il
Aaukau, richardson, kaai, Kauai, Palohau-19. S
against to II in favor Hon j. 1. Dowsett who :,
ad not voted declared himself in favor
laking the vote tie. Rep. Richardson who had Il
OF voted, now cast his vote with those against b
aus making the result as above shown. II
Hon A. 5. Cleghorn now moved to amend to $50 X
snts per bunch, freight" Z
On putting the question the chair declared the L
ote carried, but doubt being expressed rising
ote was taken. showing Is TO Is, tie, decided by
lie President voting IN favor of the amendment
nd amidst hearty applause the motion was de- y
Representative Thurston moved TO reconsider, N
ut before the motion put, the Assembly, at rc
10 took recess until 1.3O O'Clock. Le H
AFTERNOON. a.
The Assembly reconvend at lao p. m. and dis 0C
lssion was Immediately commenced on motion bs
ade by Rep. Thurston on the banana clause y ca
reconsider the vote, which finally passed, and
as then amended to 55 cents freight per bunch, til
le section being passed at that figure. w
Third reading of An Act TO amend sections NJ
ID of chapter "a of the session Laws of 1884, W;
lating to street railroads and which finally Ia
ssed as follows: E
ACT To Re-enact Chapter XXXIY of the DC
Session Laws of 1884 Approved on the 29th day it