Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1886-06-02
CHAMBERLAIN'S COURAGE
PARTY TIES CAST OFF FOR PA
TRIOTIC PURPOSES.

LONDON, June 1.-The Standard says;
sit would perhaps be irrational to assume
that Mr.. Gladstone's resources are ex-
hausted, but the chances are iufinitesimal
that he has any fresh overtures to make
or that he will subject himself TO fresh
humiliation in an effort to purchase a
semblance of harmony. 1t is credItable
that the dissidents chose the least well
come alternative-dissolu The Con-
servatives wanted a division on the home
rule bill tonight, but the government de-
clined to accede to their wishes. The
government was reluctant at first to give
pledge for a division on Thursday, but
finally yielded"
MEETING OF THE MINISTER'S.
The Minister'S now In London held a
meeting after the Chamberlain meeting
and decided to call full meeting to con-
slder the subject OF Immediate dlssolu-
tion. Twelve Hartingtopites attended the
Chamberlain meeting. 1t isrnmored that
Mr.. Bright in his letter to Mr.. Cham ber-
lain expressed hope that via media
might yet be found to avert dissolution
while the Liberals are divided.
OhhVhDkNAAAN nAhES hOl 0hOAs
The debate on the home rule bill In the
House of Commons was resumed this
afternoon by Joseph Chamberlain. When
he rose in bis place he was greeted with
derisive cheers and howls from tue Irish
members. He denied the assertion made
by E. Dwyer Gray that he Mr.. Chamber
lain was the authority OF the article on
''National Councils" published in the
Fortnightly Review, aud said that Mr.
Gray knew very well who the author was
and that the details OF the article were
supplied from Irish sources. Il myself
possess,' said the speaker, s1incontro-
vertible and incontestibe proof that emf
nent Nationalist leaders have approved
the principle OF national councils"
UPRoAR IN THE HOUSE.
Here the Parnellitas uttered loud howls
and cried out "Names!" .sNamesr' and
the Conservatives and Wings cheered MIR.
Chamberlain. The depunciation and
cheering quickly became an uproar which
lasted several minutes.
Mr.. Cham berlain calmly folded his
arms and smiiingly waited for the tumult
to subside, but he refused to mention the
names called for. ResumiDg, MIR. Cham
berlalD at great length explained why he
deemed Mr. GladsLone's concessions in
adequate. He did not, he continued, pro-
pO5C W AEDiy W Aitt vi INC DGISVudi IttNI-
ences made towards himself during the
course of the de5ate. They were perhaps
amusing, but they were below the level of
great constitutional discussion of uues-
tions fraught with most momentous con-
sequences.
CHAMBERLAIN's ATTITUDE.
Those who oppose the home RUE meas
ure believe that it would prove more mis-
chieyOus IN it's effect upon Ireland, and
postpone for long time a satisfactory
settlement of the Irish question. Cries
of Hear! HearWl There had been in
some Liberal quarters a desire to minim-
ize the Importance of the division on the
second reading Of the bill. Members had
been told that the bill was already killed
The speaker did not believe that 8ir.
Gladstone would accept a vote on the
second reading, or understand that it
would be received only as an approval of
the abstract resolution that ireland
ought to have a parliament of her own.
lad the government submitted a mere
resolution affirming the principle OF legis-
lative autonomy be (Mr. Chamberlain
could have voted for it, because it would
have been consistent either with the
creation of a chamber like the Grattan
Parliament or with the establishment of
a legislative council, such as the speaker
had suggested, and which had ere now
received the support OF the Natlonalists.
Cries from the Parneilites, "Names,
names."
GLADSToNE's PROPOSAL.
The government proposal, however.
had a stronger meaning than that OF
mere abstract resolution, as it pledged
the House TO the support Of principle OF
home rule from which Mr.. Glad tone said
he would never depart. The speaker and
chose who thought with him had hoped,
since Mr.. Gladstone's speech at the For
eign Office, that the home rule
bill might be so remodeled that
they could vote for it, but
they had been disappointed.
Mr.. Gladstone had since practically
stated in the House OF Commons that IL
the bill passed its second reading 1t would
be suspended until October and then be
reintroduced unaltered except in the
minor details concerning the feature Of
the Irisn representation at Westminster.
IRISH AT WESTMINSTER.
Those who agreed with the speaker did
not wish to reduce Ireland 20 the condi.
tion Of a self-governing colony, and the
changes promised by Mr.. Gladstone
would not meet the views OF those who
maintained this position. Under the
amended proposal of the Premier Irish
members might be invited TO take part in
the discussion about and vote on the Impe
rial expenses. like those OF the Russian and
Egyptian wars. Questions relating 10 such
matters were constantly arising, and in
order to take an effective part in the dis.
cussion and settlement the Irish members
would require TO be constantly present ut
w estminster. 1t would be impossible TO
make the House OF Commons huctuating
body, as IL would be under MIR. Gladstone's
proposals. IL would be equally unwise
10 create an Irish Parliament as a subOr-
dinate and not a coordinate body.
lChe9rs.
ULsTER's PROTECTION.
What they wanted was 10 prevent the
Irish members from becoming omniponent
either ut w Westminster or at Dublin.
Cheers and counter cheers. AS TO Ill
ster, that was a very important matter.
( Parnellite laughter. The speaker
would not go into the question OF
armed resistance, although be resented as
absurd the ParnelIite charge that he had
said anything melting 10 assassination or
outrage. Cheers. But If resistance OF
Ulster 10 Dublin government were ex-
pressed In a constitutional way would
the British House of Commons override
or disregard that resistanceY l.tHeariD
"Hear"l Why bad the resistance OF the
Protestants OF Ulster been stigmatized
~ unpatriotIc7 Was II because they
approved OF belonging 20 great empire
and were opposed TO being cut adrift from
long fqmiiiar association as members OF
the United Kingdom9
PROTEgTA NTIsM AND RoMAN1sM
In defeudina Ulster be was governed by