The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1886-08-25
And Strongly Hints that Continuation Of
Eyictions May Possibly Result in Difficult
ties of Very Serious Character.
The Peopleof Ireland Will Never Submit
to a Government Not Their Own.
Mr. Gladstone Opposes the Policy Of the Gov
ernment, and Fears It's enforcement
Will Increase Existing Difficulties.
IRISH QUESTIONS.
Mr.. Parnell Discusses Rents, and Mr.. Glad
stone Assails the Tory Policy.

stone Assails the Tory Policy.
LONDON. Aug 24.-Mr. ParneIl was loudly
cheered in the House of Commons, tonight on
rising to resume the debate on the address in
reply to the Queens speech. He said he be-
iieyed that if the country had been given three
more weeks to consider the home rule bill, the
Tories would not now be seen installed on the
Treasury bench. The Irish party had every
reason to be satisfied with the present position.
majority Of the Liberal party had declared in
favor of Irish autonomy. The Tories had only
profted from temporary Liberal hesitation.
After the present government had exhibited
themselves for year or so, a spectacle for God
and man, in an ATTEMPT to govern Ireland, Lib
eral hesitation would vanish. The Irish had every
reason to have patience. Theirs was the winning
cause. If the government speeches were intend
ed to exasperate Ireland, they would fail to
have that effect. At the Same time there would
be considerable difficulty with the rent question
He regretted that the government had not ap-
preciated the gravity of tho occasion. The royal
commission would be unable to report until the
pinch of winter was over. If the system of
dual ownership was to be replaced by a system
of single ownership, there would be risk to the
English taxpayer. Mr.. Parnell said he had
only agreed to the adoption of the land-pur-
case act of 1855 because he then believed that a
settlement Of the national question would come
concurrently and because the Conservative gov
ernment had sent to Ireland Lord Car
narvon, who was an avowed Home Ruler.
Now the conditions were entirely
changed. Mr.. Gladstone's purchase scheme
would have safely settled the land question
Every penny of the principal and interest could
have been collected through the customs and
excise duties, and the money would have been
safe as the Bank of England. If the govern
ment thought of solving the Irish question with
out settling the land question, it would find that
it had got hold of the wrong end of a very thorny
stick. The government must reduce rents. either
at the expense of the landlords or at the expense
of the British tax payer. ~
Mr. Parnell denounced the dishonesty of at
tempting to stimulate Irish industries by liberal
doses of English public money. He said the Irish
people bitterly refused to sell their national
birthright for the mess Of pottage which the
government offered. The way to develop the re-
sources of Ireland to allow the Irish to
develop them themselves. They did not
want an influx of capital for there was
plenty of that4n Ireland They wanted to be
allowed to help themselves conservative
cheers and laughter.l The government allowed
the Irish to build harbors, drain lands and
generally develop the resources of the coun-
try when they did not allow the Irish to reap the
profit. The Irish party repudiated the proposed
fraud on the British taxpayer. Let the govern
ment, which obtained Office by misrepreserta-
tion-he could not say lying-pursue their own
way. and establish wholesale system of bribery
and corruption.
Mr. Parnell here read his amendment to the
address. and proceeded. He said the judicial
rents were too nigh. He accused the govern
ment of encouraging landlords to evict by whole
sale knowing that agrarian crimes always fol-
lowed evictions. Why did tenants submitting
to moonlight raids refuse to give evidence? Be-
cause, taking Kerry as an example. the tenants
knew that but for moonlight raids
Lord Kenmore would not leave
roof over the heads of his tenants.
The Irish would be patient, but the inducements
held out by landlords who tried to exact impossi-
BILE rents would bear fruit and might produce
evaporation. The landlords would clamor for
coercion, and force the government to adopt
coercive measures Yes he believed that coer-
coercion that would not stop at criminals but
attack political opponents. If he might offer
suggestion, he would urge that judicial tenancies
should be fixed at three years instead of fifteen
years, and that there should be revision of
rents in accordance with prevailing prices. In
conclusion. he said: "The Irish will never sub
nit to a government not their own. Irish
cheers The question of an autonomous gov
ernment will always be fixed in the hearts of
the Irish people," prolonged cheers
Right Hon. David Plunket First Commis
er of Works. denied that the judicial rents were
too high. He said they fixed during pc
riod, and on the basis of falling prices The
tendency of the past eighteen months had been
in the direction of decrease in the number of
evictions The policy of the government was to
extend the act of 1881. and its success largely
depended upon the restoration Of social order
He concluded by saying that the responsibility
taken upon himself by Mr. Parnell to night was
an awful and terrible one. Conservative cheers.
Mr. Gladstone, upon rising, was loudly
cheered. He began by accusing the government
OF having taken an unusual course in going so
far outside OF the speech from the throne. He
did not remember occasion in fifty years
when the government thought it polite to use
the address as an opportunity for explaining
its policy beyond the compass of the speech
He thought the government should have re-
served the main lines of their measures until
the measures themselves could be presented
But he was unwilling to complain of the action
of the government He intimated that he
would take no part in the division on Mr. Par
nells amendment, because he deprecated any at
tempt to force a definite premature expression
of opinion on the policy which the government
foreshadowed for their future Guidance Their
policy, however, was open to criticism. It bore
upon five different poiEts-namely the issue of
royal commissions, questions of public works
land purchase, an inquiry into land rents. and
the subject of the local government. He be-
lieved that the government policy was not a
sober one, but was eminently complex and diff
cult.
At this point Lord Randolph Churchill rose to
point of order. urging that there was only Mr.
Parnell's amendment under discussion.
Speaker Peel conSurred. and reminded Mr.