The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1886-07-21
Afternous, session.

definitely postponed
! Mr.. Hayselden said that the motion I,
indefinitely postpone the section was pu
and not carried when the section frs
came up for consideration.
/ Mr.. Aholo said there were number o
/ things in the section he did not understand
therefore he moved the following a. sub
/ stitute
Section l. That section IA Of said Act bt
/ and the same is hereby amended so as tc
read as follows:
Section Il. The term real property for
the purposes of this Act shall be deemed
TO mean and include all lands and town
lots with the buildings, structures, fences
wharveS. improvements and other things
erected on or affixed TO the same"
Mr.. Castle said this amendment was a
step i'll the right direction. 1t was coming
back to simplicity. This House should
legislate for the benefit OF the country. If
this new law passed, it would cause con
fusion, and in some cases double taxation
No one in this House wants to legislate
that way. Mr.. AhoIos amendment was.
as he had SAID before, a step in the right
direction. But why does he enumerate
property so?
Mr.. Dole said he did not care about his
own amendment very much, as he was
perfectly satisfied with the law as it stands
to-day.
Mr.. Hayselden withdrew his amendment
and supported the one offered by Mr..
Aholo. BY putting in fences and wharves,
it does not mean that they will be assessed.
Hon. Mr.. Bishop said Mr. Aholo's
amendment a good deal less objec-
tionable than the others. In the Act sub
mitted early in the session there was no
attempt to amend section IL 1t was not
considered necessary. When the commit
tee got up a substitute bill in a hurry to
rush it through before July LIST, then came
these complications. He (the speaker
would not know how to have made re-
turn OF his property under section 1. The
old law covers the whole ground. The
definition obtainable in the present law is
so complete that there is no need to waste
all this time and money. A law is wanted
that can be understood not only by the
Assessors, but by the public in general.
Mr.. Lilikalani said the old law was
framed by present Justice of the Supreme
Court and had worked well Different
amendments had been made to this new
bill but they were only gradually getting
back to the old law. 1t was simply vast
ing time; therefore let US Indefinitely post
pene the section.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said the mo-
ton to indefinitely postpone was put and
lost. 1t is not now in the power OF the
committee to renew that motion Ii Mr.
Hayselden accepts Mr.. Aholo's amend
ment substitute for section l, lie (the
speaker) would not raise any objection
The chairman said the motion to indefin-
itely postpone was out of order.
The substitute section offered by Mr.
Aholo was passed.
The Secretary then read section ,, as fol-
lows:
Section .. That section IS of said Act be
and the same is hereby amended so as to
read as follows:
Section Is. The term personal proper
ty' for the purposes of this Act shall be
deemed to mean and include all household
furniture and effects, jewelry, watches,
goods, chattels, credits, dues, wares and
merchandise, machinery, all ships and
vessels, whether at home or abroad, all
moneys in hand, leasehold and chattel
interest i'll lands and real estate, franchises,
patents, contracts, growing crops, public
stocks and bonds, and all domesticated
birds and animals not hereinbefore speci- |
fically taxed"
His Excellency Mr.. Dare moved to in
sert after the word taxed" the words !
land all mortgages, deeds of trust, con-
tracts, notes and bonds.'
Mr.. Dole moved the following amend |
ment to section q, to read as follows:
Section , That section Is Of the said !
Act is hereby amended to read as fol- !
lows
Section Is. The term personal proper
ty' for the purposes of this Act shall be |
deemed to mean and include all property |
not covered by the description of the term |
real property as set forth in section IA; |
all certificates of deposit issued by the Ha- |
waiian Government, and all ships and |
vessels, whether at home or abroad"
Mr.. Hayselden said it might be right to |
have general term, but it was a pity ali /
the States in the Union did not think so. /
He was in favor of the section as amended /
by the Attorney General.
Mr. Castle said there was a great deal of
that escaped taxation.
His Excellency Mr.. Dare said this bill
had been introduced by Air. Hayselden in
good faith, with view to increase the
revenue of the Government. The Opposi-
lion had done nothing but ridicule the
dill. The Assessor says that property es-
apes taxation, and has shown it with
statistical figures. The object of this law is
% add largely to the revenue of the coun-
.ry.
Mr.. Dole spoke at some length on the
section. He thought the definition of this
lew law would operate more against the
Door than against the rich.
His Excellency Mr.. Gibson said the OBJ
ect of taxation was unquestionably that
Government may have the means for all
An individual may have no
houses. land, etc. and yet be rich man.
The Government should tax him for the
values he represents. He hoped the sec
ion as amended by the Attorney General
would pass.
Messrs. Dickey and Richardson also
spoke on the subject
Hon. Mr.. Bishop said he did not like
this new law. 1t may be said his reason
'or it was because he would have to pay