Iron County register. [volume] (Ironton, Iron County, Mo.) 1867-1965, 1886-04-15

Ireland was to have q domestic legislature
not come e to the House Of Conc com,
mons to central English and Scotch
a a15afs Then hs+ne with regard to the
should come to the House of commons for
the settlementof imperial affairs he thought
rived at the conclusion that the Irish mem /.
bers and peers ought not to sit in the palace
OF Westminster. lCries of oh! oh! and
cheersl II the Irish members were not to
sit in the House of Commons the Irish peers
ought not to sit in the other House of Partia.
ment. [Cries of Hear, hear and Oh! oh u
they had legislators in both countries, He
believed Great Britain would never impose
IF If t thew ' We're I to have taxation
without representation then came an
other question which raised a practical
unity of the empi I He dd did not think that
by giving up the fiscal unity of the empi re
they were giving up the complete unity or
the empire. He, however, stood upon the
substantial ground that to give up the fiscal
unity of the empire would be
PUBLIC INCONVENIENCE AND MISFORTUNE
It would be a great misfortune for Great
Britain, and greater misfortune for Ire
land. He conceived that one escape from
that dilemma would he such arrangement
ties and such excise duties as were immedi-
ately connected with the customs. The con-
ditions of such an agreement were
the general power of taxation,
and over and above those particular
duties should pass intentionally into the
hands of the domestic legislature in Ireland.
Secondly that the proceeds of customs du-
ties and excise should be held for the
benefit of Ireland and discharge of the OBJ
legations of Ireland and the payment of the
balance after these obligations were dis
charged should be entered into the irish
eXcheqner, and be for the free disposal OF
the Irish legislative body.
The bin then provided that the represen-
tatives of Ireland should no longer sit in
the House Of Commons or or Irish Iris peers tbs
same time they would have, the right
of addressing the Crown and so pos.
tssy had al nd TIVE ras Of oh obi nd
cheersD 1t would, therefore, relieve the
Irish members from attendance at West
minister, and he had several reasons why
possible for them to do SO, they had a Par
diffcult to have two classes of members in
the House-one class who could vote on all
questions connected with the business OF
the country, and another which could only
vote on special and particular questions
which were brought before Parliament.
tlemen in Ireland to decide who should go
to Westminster who should remain In
Ireland, and at the same time maintain tho
fiscal unity of the nation.
There was another point With regard to
the powers of the Legislature two courses
might have been taken. One was to endow
the legislative body with particular legis-
latve powers: the other was to except from
the sphere of it's action those subjects which
they thought ought to be excepted. and to
lend it every other power The latter plan
had been adopted. The administrative
power would pass with the legislative
power
The duration of the proposed legislative
body should not exceed five years. The
functions which it was proposed to with
draw from the cognizance of the legislative
body were grand and principal functions.
namely: Every thing which related to the
Crown: that which belonged to the defense,
the army, the navy, the entire organization
of armed forces, and to our foreign colonial
n
pass a law for the establishment or endow-
ment of any particular religion. lCheers1
As to trade and navigation it would be a
misfortune to Ireland to be separated from
England The Irish party would have moth
ing to do with coinage or LEGAL tender. The
subject of post offices would be left to the
ment was inclined to the view that it would
be more convenient to leave the post offices
in the hands of the Postmaster General.
Quarantine and one or two other subjects
were left in the same category.
The next subject he had to approach was
that of the composed legislative body. The
bill he proposed to Introduce provided for
two orders, which would sit and deliberate
together. with the right of voting separate
lv on occasion, and demand OF either
body, which should be
ABLE TO INTERPosE VETO
upon any measure for a limited time, either
until the dissolution or for three years The
orders would be constituted as follows:
First, There were the twenty eight rep
e st ia the House ~ o after the repre
sentatives of the Irish people left the H ouse.
They wonld have the option Of sitting AS
lament with the power Of sitting for life.
Some people Thought that option was not
that number TCries of hear, hear.l He pro-
posed that with the twenty eight peers now
in the House of Lords there should sit sew
enty-five representatives elected by the
Irish people: With regard to the pow
ers of election the cons constituency
of the value of twenty five pounds and up
ward, and the representatives would be
elected for ten years. The property , quail
nual value, Or IA capital value of 81 900. He
proposed that the l0l Irish members in the
Parliament. and while the first order OF the
legislative body would consist OF l0s Nom.
bcrs. the second order would consist OF ?O6.
1t was proposed to retain the vfccroy, but
party or go out Of onice with the ont
going government The Queen would be en-
powered to delegate to him any prerogatve
he now enjoys or would enjoy. the re-
sigious disability now existing e would be re,
concerned in the administration of criminal
law in Ireland. Her Majesty might, il she
date Of the pensions of these particular
judges: but in future the judges would be
paid out of the consolidated fund, and be
removed only on joint address of the two
orders. The constabulary could remain
under the present terms of service and
under the present authority. The charge
for constabulary was now a million and
half pounds annually. and he felt confident
that the charge would be reduced; but, for
the present he proposed to relieve the legis-
Iative body of all expenditures for constab-
uIary in excess of a million pounds per an
mum.
The government had no desire to exempt
the place of Ireland in reference to it's final
position from the ultimatum control OF the
Irish legislative body. He had no Jealousy
that subject the care fe OF f9r
was the first duty of a local government
With respect to the Civil Service, the gov
same that of the constabulary, and its
transfer to the legislative body would eff
good na Well He
civil servants to claim the pension
that would be due to them upon the abo
lition of their offices, provided they
convenience from rapid transition of the
service. and at the close of that time both
parties should be free to negotiate afresh.
That was all he had to say on the subject of
the new Irish constitution.
The proportion of Imperial burdens which
he had to propose that Ireland should bear
was as one to fourteen He thought that the
new Irish parliament ought to start with
balance to it's credit, but the only fund that
1t would have If left alone would be the soli-
tary 100000 from the Irish Church fund. He
knew of no way providing the necessary
money except by carving it out of this years
budget and he proposed that in future Ire
land should pay one fifteenth toward the
Imperial expenditures.
RE then went on to speak or now
much Ireland gained by exporting
spirits to Great Britain xon and how how
to I Ireland by the flow of money from one to
the other. AS the result of careful inquiry,
he stated with confidence. not as an actual
demonstration, but as a matter of certainty
with regard to the far greater portion, that
the Irish receipts gained from Great Britain
amounted to noless than f1 4o0,ooo He then