Morning journal and courier., 1886-09-15
Iaono1d Rasser clothing dealer tastified

Leopold Besser, clothing dealer, testified that Gunn's reputation for truth and veraci | ty wa9 bad. sfYes. recollect having con l versations with Mir. Gum about the time h. l was elected councilman. He said in my st or that he had got what he wanted; h. was on the Sewer committee, he said, ana was no fool, and that was where the money I lay. He said Councilmen could not worl l for nothing. I told him he would burn hii look out. He said there was certain sewer I contract to be given out and there was considerable amount of money in it. Cross oss-examination-Yes, acted with Mir Constantine Simon in the matter of this fail ure of Gum. "No, I never asked Gum to pay us in full"
 Ibid you not tell Gum that you would not settle for less than fifty cents on dol lara"
 Not until he told us that he had twenty five hundred dollars in his pocket and we could not get it.
 c. Spanutius was next called and testified that he hardly thought MT. Gunn's reputa- tion for truth and veracity was as good as the average of men.
 Henry G. Lewis was next called. He tes- fled that during the pendency of the railroad matter he MT. Gum talking with MT. Sargent two or three times. (This was to contradict MT. Gunn's statement that he
  gent during the time named)
 MT. Tyler at this point submitted oertiH- cate of the Supreme Judicial court of Massa- chusetts showing when Mrs. Gum was di- vorced from MT. Gum.
 Mr.. Blydenburgh objected to this being received as evidence.
 MT. Tyler said he offered this to show that MT. Gum was divorced from his second wife on the ground of adultery, and then he pro posed to show that if MT. Gum was mar ried, as he says he was in Portchester at the time he states, then he was married year before his divorce was granted.
 MT. Blydenburgh said that MT. Gum had told frankly all about his divorce, and he thought it was not for this committee to consider whether MT. Gnna had been guilty years ago of adultery, when the claim was made on inferences only. Even if the records of Portchester did not show that MT. Gum was not married there, it is not proof posi- tive that he was not married there as he states.
 The committee took recess to consider their decision on thesadmissibility of this evil dence. When they returned the chairman stated that in accordance with former rul- ings they would admit the evidence.
 Now then, MT. Tyler, said MT. Blyden- burgh, I will submit a certificate from the justice of the peace who married Mir. Gum in Portchester. The justice stated that he had an indistinct recollection of marrying 8 MT. Gum and Mrs. White about the time stated by MT. Gum that he was married.
 MT. Tyler read the certificate and handed it to the committee.
 s. Harrison Wagner was next called and testified that he was employed by MT. Sperry, president of the Derby railroad, in Decem- Der, 1884, substantially as had been stated.
 MT. Wagner then went on to tell his story in his own way. He said he met Mir. Sperry one day, who asked Lim ii he could not take hold of the Derby railroad matter, and he told him he could. He then detailed the conversation he had with MT. Sperry. He said MT. Sperry told him that the stockhold- CTS were not fully satisfied with the offer of the city, but after fully considering the mat ter they had decided to accept it. MT. Sperry told him that they did not want to spend much money and they did not Witness said he first mastered the situation or details and then cast about in a proper manner to learn the feelings of the Boards of Aldermen and Councilmen-especiall the Aldermen. He found that they had pretty thorough idea of the proposed compromise, and that they were gentlemen who could not be swerved from duty by any hundred dollar timent of the Board of Councilmen. I found,'' said witness, "that this was more difficult matter; when it reached this Board the matter captiously considered and 1t necessitated a great deal more labor on the part of myself and my associates. There was, too, persistent lobby work ing to defeat the measure, consisting of MT. Sargent, Lawyer Ullman and others. After referring to the injunction proceedings MT. Wagner said that the entire labor on his part and on the part of his associates was en- tirely honorable, and the labor was lost by and the inj junction. So far as his attending the Council meetings was con 1o, I1oa aE@o Ial and ho1 three of them. So far sending in notes to Counci1men was concerned he said he did so on several occasions. These notes related entirely to- parliamentary rules, and were suggestions on these points. The Council was all snarled up and he was trying to un- Councilmen. So far as the statements made by Mir. Kennedy were concerned he thought they were, in the main, true.
 MT. Tyler-Did you ever, during this dis cussion, send note to MT. Gum to come and see you at your of6cei
 Wagner-I have no idea that wrote such a note and would not believe it unless the note was produced. This man (Gunn) came to my office sometime during this contro versy and said: MT. Wagner, I have come to see you about this Derby railroad matter; I understand you are interested in it. l asked him what made him think sos I am of the that he told me that he got it through MT. Mllls. lie sald ne nad not made up his mind about it, and told him when he made up his mind we should all know it. He asked me if I was interested in the west shore land scheme matter, and told him no. told him that Mills and Mr Waddingham were interested in it, but did not tell him that Mir. Mitchell was interested in it for I knew better.
 At :O5 the committee adjourned until this evening at 8 o'clock, when NIT. Wagner will continue his evidence.