The Hawaiian gazette., 1886-08-31

man Of Boston, viii be of interest TO our antigua
rams We pnhlish that discussion may quickly
take plsce--E6.
BosToS. July u 1856.
c. D. GILMAN Esos-DearSir. The article in the
Transcripts, Of Nov. ., 1885. u reference 70 the
children OF Mrs. PAMELA Crane. Snd Queen Emma,
and calling her grandfather John Young, sn Eng
hshman, bro1cht out the reply OF Cape Colder in
the same paper Dec. :. 1885,. II which he strongly
claims him as true Cspe Colder of the family of
Jonathan Young. and still beliSve he Was right
This brought out. Dec u. 1885, the reply Of Isl
ander,'' but Cape Colder wss well satisfied that
Islander would not be convinced, that he did not
answer again. and probably il would have ended
hers. as fsr SIS the family Is concerned. had not
there appeared another article in the TrIHscTIus,
on March =, lSS6, from Hawaii, who ridio1led
the Crane claim, las al the other relatives of Jonn
.iFss David Young DO. also asking for the line of
connection between the Cape Cod brand. and Said
David or John, which was answered very fully. and
70 the point by Cape Colder II. and il was 50 full
that I led 70 very pleasant usintoace between
yourself and Cape Colder il. and I feel that you
must acknowledge thar with what pissed between
Is and the following extracts Of letters and con-
vsrsatols that l have had with many Of the de
sceoGenfs OF the brothers and sisters all Of whom
were born many years before the death OF John
ssifaS DAVID Young. and many Of whom were well
acquainted with his brothers and sisters, that
that there Is not any doubt b1t that John Young
Of Hawaii and David Young born 81 wellfeet,
Oct. :, 115S, were one and the same person.
DR.. q. X. G., for many wears g physician of New
York but lately retired, and now living az Iruro,
Mass Is grandson o. 3 sister OF David 1o1nc.
he was born 81 Trlro, March Is, ISL: be writes
me. from New York, under date of Dec 3, 1855,
M answer mine calling his attention 10 the DIFF
fere1f articles II the ZTaNSrSp: saying he derived
many traditional stories from his grandmother,
which stories were very pleasing 10 him IN his
youth and he has never heard il questioned or dis
pzte5 before but thai David Young yss the grand
fsthaz Of Queen Emma of the Sandwich Islands
nov deceased. and 50 strong vas the evidence that
when she visited this country shout twenty years
since, the descendants OF the Iouncs. in New York
were about 70 give her reception ar the Fifth Ave
nue. Hotel. when she received telegram from ssh
Francisco 10 hasten home as some Of her relations
were near death, and this pu, stop 70 the pro
cseGinCS
Mrs. Sarah D. d. born Sept u. ISIS. writes me.
Jan. 6. 1886, she has often heard her mother say
that her grandfather was OF English descent. and
IS 70 David. .or John Young, As be Is nov called
we have no doubt thai be Is grandfather Yoaug's
son. have heard mother say he went on q foreign
voyage. and Il has been told 10 ue thar man
came here from TIE Sandwich islands. and talked
Win aunt @, AID u2cle Jonathan -. who
knew David Young well. and he talked OF coming
home and visiting his PEOPLE bli ms wife friends
were not willing to- him 70 come We al know
that when a vessel arrived anywhere near 70 the
place where John. 1.ias David resided. there was
AZ extra watch o; Eaard pat over him, 50 that be
could 1oi leave. many Hawaiian whites confirm
ghis-
could write ont statements from most, If not
al Of the following. and many Others Of the de-
Young, the parents Of David No1ncl who ali
firmly believe that John and David are one and
.he same person. 2nd many Of them think he
sailed from NevbuTyport. VIZ;
S1Ssns Il, born Nov. l9. ISl9- living az Welfeei:
Mrs Elvir6 NJ. boru Sept. I9. 1915 noE living In
Boston; Freeman A. D.. born July J. IS0l. now Nv
lnG az Roxbury; Mrs Minerva O.. born oct- II.
lSe1, nov living az Mellseet; Nh Caleb D.. born
July -. ISIS. DOW living at Roxbury; Mrs Bsssey
z. born April 1. lSlh now living az ROxbury; Mrs
lulisns b, born April Il, ISIS. now living az
Nashua y. Il. ! c0uld give Others from different
paris OF New Hampshire. Massachusetts,: and other
States but the above, who al living st the pres
ent time, and al II good health, together with 3
few extracts Of letters. and Of conversations.
l think viii De sufficient 70 prove that John and
David were one and the same person.
Mrs. Ann {. A.. born 1872. writes me under
d&e O. April lS 1856, as follows: This David
Yong. supposed 70 Be John YO1zg. of the Sand
Elch Islands Eas born II Nellfee;- and have
aesrd nv grandmother. Abigail Young G. speak
OF her brother David and also Others OF the fam
iyA as eonc away there have never been any letters
from him % my Knowledge. but gentleman came
- my fathers, ana gave my mother al account Of
3 man by the name Of Young. living ST the Sand
vich Islands, and boE much good he had done By 7
helping the natives turn from their idols. and Eo--
ship the true Goi. He told this man that he
wanted 70 ysi. his native land. but If he did. he
would have 10 lesYe his wife sl6 all that he pos
sesse5. have never heS-d Of any Engiishmsn IN
the family. except the old Dr.. John Young, who
married Rebeoca 1o1lg. V no vas sister OF David,
and wsS well acquainted with most Of the chill
6re1 Of Jonathan aud Rsbeces Harding Young. {
Freeman II. D, born July 81 1Sol, tells me
that when be was child, he often had hat 70
play with. which he has slso worn, that vss said
70 the Sandwich Islsnds-
Mr.. Rebeccs G.. c., Of Pruyince:oEn. born /.
born April L. 1914 writes under dste Of March 1
4. 1856, follows, speaking OF the sons OF iona
than snd Rebeccs (HsrdinSl Young: David vent 1
70 the Sandwich Islands and died there, az sn sd
vsnced see n 1SS5' II is ssid thai be vent out /
SIS bosssvsin Of the EieaEor in the year l7s9.
Mrs Olivir p. B-born April II, 1874. writes 4
ne on Aug. p, 1856, as follows: q think David 4
lo1ng nv mothers Uncle, must hsve sailed from
SevburypoTt. his brother Jonathan lived there
Mrs Maria L N--oorn A5g. Is, ISIS writes 4
NE IN letter dated June =, 1856, that the town 4
from which the ElsaEsy sailed with David
Young as BostSvsin Was NeEb1rypo-t. which yo1 .
viii also ind by searching the old records The /
above lsdy Is neios Of Pamela Crane
have many other replies iron other descend /
ants OF the Yong family, showing that II was .
generally understood that Nevburyport was the 4
p.scs thar. JOHN alas David Young sailed from .
On June 18th last. / visited Plymouth. Mass 4
and zhia there. called upon Mrs Miriam A- .
z crzrd daughter Of Abigail 1o1ag-She vas born T.
FEB = -S25. and she stated 20 ne that She re- .
members n her youth 10 have seen az her mothers
house. some persons who kzd lived for sometime 4
~ tce Sandwich Islands who exclaimed upon
seeing ke- Uncle Jonathan Young C who hop .
peaed % 5e there a t1at uule,l Why now much .
yOu look like 3 Mr. Young thai lives IT the sand II
Eich Islands, you look e1O1gb Ike him % De his i
own brother. i don't know that have written the 4
shove n the exact words used By Mrs A--but
have give the p1rpo-1 % them This Jonathan
Young G--of whom she speaks was S brother
Of the celebrated ten sisters all daughters Of
Abigail Young. He wss good Christian Dan.
snd found Of residing missionary histories, &c,
snd among his books found among his effects,
after his tsstB WAS the history OF the HsEsiisn
Island by Rufus Anderson ID. D., and on pages
SS and g. John Young II his testimony, written
az Kszsishso, on the 9th Of Nov. 1875, gives his
testimony ecidely IN favor Of missionaries, and
,ells OF the CREST benefits derived from Christian
IN in DESTROYING superstition and idOlstry. etc.