New-York tribune., 1885-07-23
: WARD TALKS ON FINANCE,
,o,xrry1NG CHECKS AND PAPERS.

Imam III
.xerted by his counsel finally appeared yes
p as a witness in the suit of Assignee Holt against
~ . Warner TO set aside the transfers OF prsPeuy
E..,;ng to s75O,O00 made by Ward to warner.
80. .rbraced bis Brooklyn and Connecticut properly.
.,s;minary skirmish held in Ludlow street Jan
= ,he morning. Ward had expressed desire 70 %
-;,sd IN a spot where newspaper men are nos
Sn.xu 40 Quietly and unostsntahousy the following
i.~ver. assembled at IL a. m In Warden hierhan
,ior at the Jail Francis N. Bangs Tor Grant ~
w.rd. William b. Hornblower, tor Receiver Dawes
charles b. Alexander for Warner and nus wn''
uessrs Hubbard and Butler for Assignee Holt.
NJ Alexander objected to sitting in the common jail
:. insisted on holding the hearing IN public place.
and besides he added "I do not propose to humor
= A. Ward by running around wherever be may wish
togo.'
Referee Cole sustained the objection and the refer
cs was adjourned TO Part I. of the Supreme Court
usually dedi,ated the Court of Oyer and lermner
There all the lawyers asssmbled at p. IN. Ex-Judge
Ashbel Green joined his partner, Mr.. Alexander.
Ward entered the room with Warden Herman he
xvss lookino pale He was dressed in navybiue suit
nth black tie under his collar Ward began ms res
t,oony in low voice which the lawyers monceo Ain
70 raise.
Nr Hubbard first handed Ward q bundle OF checxs'
,a,ked exhibits to ii, and the first ones put IN evi
Apne
himself 10 Warner and indorsed by Warner. They
were drawn on the Marine National Bank. One py
one Ward took up the checks recognized his dshcase
angular handwriting and acknowledged 1t duiy' Tx
Jadoe Green objected to Mr. Wards testifytng from
a.. books that hs had made out this checks. Mr. Green
thoncht that Ward ought to get on without Jogging Ills
memory in that way.
yr Hubbard-Mr. W ard, do you remember the fact
tbat Won drew certain checks on the Marine Nauonai
Rank pavable to the order OF w. >. w Narner'
Ar Ward did recall the incidents. Then Lawyer
hubbard handed Fianancier Ward all the checKs one
hv one and Ward read them aloud at a rapid ra'e'
running gliblv sums ranging from So'ooo
s279 600 The largest check was that OF June To-
1883. On October Of that year three chechs "ei0
given making a total OF $213'0oo ohe checA ioi
SO ZOO payable to James ID. "ork' "ho s"' n0'i
b. aud listened with interest.
The lawyers took eager interest in the examination
Of the checks Tor they numbered about l2o ana made
,hs triaing sum OF $SOO0.0O0 Lawyer Hubbard
handed them to Ward who identified them passed them
10 stenographer Caswell, who marked them 'hehce
they went to Lawyer Butler who peered AZ .neh
then LAWYER Alexander received them and passed then
o. LAWYER Green who subjected them TO scrutiny
through his glasses. AL these checks George L,
snencer the former cashier OF Grant q "ato' hao
identified as in Wards handwriting at previous
session The body of of the papers was IN nr.
few checks Ward was not familiar, he said.
W Unbbard-Can you say whether any OF these
checks are not in the stock account oil 0rah' y "u
ihe witness-i can
Mr. Green insisted that the books were 'ne pcs' o,'
ssnce and that the witness must 60 over the cheeks
seriatim
Mr. Hubbard-Dd Grant ~ "afd Keep my oooA' "a
secounti
The witness-les. sir , NJ, - nan
Mr. Hubbard-Nhat were tneyi A'-D"-AA " ~
Did you keep an account Of these ehecks' Al
did, SIR .- ,;oh T liant NV
..f They are all in the hands Of Receiver Dawes ex-
eept one which kept myself
Mr. Hubbard handed bundle OF papers 10 "aro'
sskiny if they were the accounts which nc had kept
The x,tpess-Soms of them are ; i cannot say that
60 ave ali of them don't know how many may Do
wanting or how many in the hands OF the receiver
ON. bv one Ward identified the papers, which con-
sisted Of single sheets something larger than legal cap,
and rolled into scrolls. One paper which ward sao
had been given to the referee for safe keeping he ceh
.;sad "a of the same class % last it on May z,
1ss4y said Ward, and l then gave 1t to MI
warner All these papers have reference to the checks
,hieb have been produced and were all kept by me
personally"
o-po you know whether Mr.. Warner knew where
You kept themf -. A. ...o. of
his knowledge OF Warmers knowedge OF these papers
Tie referee-You may ask the question:
mr. Ma NJ Warner ever see the papersi Ale
did, in my Office. lie spoke to me ABOUT EN- at iea''
s'o g csn xou sneak definitely OF any one Al must
rettesh nav memory from my own dlgest OF thvsc
papers There were some transactions Oh winch "i
Warner knew. 80 .,. ..,,or corv
When these checks were given 10 Mr. Warner ala you
In all or some instances receive from MN solic Papol
or iys him some paper Al think IN every instance
! tseeived paper from him. Passing the check was
not all the transaction. 4 WI " "A.
O-I show you letter book Of Grant Ward NO. Or
won't you look al IL anu sec "Na' - 40
page o22. 4.
Ward did so and said: al see press copy oi
these. signed by Grant g. Ward ana by me- Inc
original went to Mr. Warner"
Mr. Hubbard called on Mr. Green for the original and
1t was produced. 1t was certificate from ward 70
Warner informing the latter that his pronts were
s4O0 ON "a certain pool Transaction on Sl'ooo.
yor th;s check had been given to warntr. Another
ao.,n-ot showed that Grant e. Ward had placed
sa 600 in the hands of Warner. The rest was egble
Nth reference to 800 shares Of stock For another
check Ward hunted up in the letter book another
eertscata of q bona fde transaction with Warner " on
certain stock transactions" Ward read several OF
these letter press papers purportng to be agreements
10 pay to W. S. Warner or his assigns certain sums
of money on certain pool transactions,' " certain
coutrsctsv and "certain stock transactons" "ard
said thu the checks given to Warner were on the
transactions referred to IN these sample uocueS anu
ther similar to them One real live contract took on
the torn of an alleged profit on Farwel Consolidated
s,d Manning Star Mining Company stock which, in
consideration of s1 was 80 to W. s. Warner or his
assigns. .,
sample Of Wards papers in which he kept bis con-
tract account was handed to him. and he said; " iho
6r. column gives month; the second the day on which
the money was due the third, to whom due the
fourth the month and day the money was put in the
fifth. the amount of profit for the use OF the money
the sixth the amount Of money put in by adding the