The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1885-10-09
Both Speakers Received with Great En-
thusiasm by an Enormous Audience.
New York Democrats Quarreling Among
Themselves, While Republicans Are Har-
monious-Banquet to Gen. Logan.
THE OHIO CANVASS.
Joint Discussion of State Issues by Judge
Foraker and Governor Hoadly.

night between Governor Hoadly and Judge
Foraker. Democratic and Republican candidates.
respectively, for Governor at next Tuesdays
election, drew an enormous audience to Wheelers
Opera-house. The building will seat 1700 The
doors were opened at 7:30 p. NJ, and in ten min
utes every seat and all the available standing
room was occupied, while on the stairs and
streets below were crowds clamoring for admis-
sion. The stage was provided with 224 seats
divided equally between the two committees, for
which tickets were issued which were occupied
oy prominent leaders of both parties. A small
table in front marked the center of
the stage. To the right and left of
this. respectively were other tables, two
chairs to each, occupied by the two speakers and
the chairmen. Judge John H. Doyle acted chair
man of the meeting on the part of the Repub-
icans, and Representative Frank Hurd for the
Democrats The time of the speakers was di-
vided as follows: Gov. Hoadly opened with one
hour; Judge Foraker then occupied one hour
and half. Mr. Hoadly to close with half hour.
General Doyle called the meeting to order and
announced the programme. Representative
Hurd Immediately arose and introduced Gov.
Hoadly in few words. and the latter began
his speech amid enthusiastic plaudits from the
audience.
He began by reciting the circumstances lead
ing to the challenge to joint debate. The
most important issue of the campaign is the
question of personal liberty and how far twas
interfered with by law rs to the habit of drink
ing. He then proceeded to define the position
of both parties on the liquor question by read
ing the platforms of EACH He defined the plank
in the Republican platform, recognizing the
right of the people to regulate the organic law
of the State as intended to meet the
Republicans favorite, the Prohibition partys
amendments. If drinking be a vice. selling
liquor is vice; but if a man capable of self
CONTROL who takes drink on farm, does no
harm, then he does no harm to drink it in
saloon. He referred to the local option feature
of the Scott law or prohibition in spots, which
differs from total prohibition as a coach dog
differs from dog all one color He anathe-
matized the Scott law for this; defined himself
opposed to partial prohibition or total prohibi-
ton, and in favor of personal freedom to the
fullest extent The speaker elaborated the
point that if it was wrong in
one oI place sh+ drinking o.. wa; :. wrong ha in
in all. The principle that would justify the
Scott laws local option feature would justify the
prohibition OF chewing or smoking tobacco with
IN municipality. The conclusion was that leg
islation must be directed against the evils of
liquor drinking, but not against drinking itself.
This was the right direction of temperance leg
islation. within cities or without. The most val
liable possession of the citizen is personal lib
erty; therefore, movements which strike at this
ought to fail Prohibition is failure in Maine,
in Kansas and in Iowa. The statistics of
the number of United States liquor licenses
issued in these States were read. showing an in
crease in two of the three He pronounced pro-
hbtion an incentive to hypocrisy, and chal-
lenged Foraker to state why he is III favor of
local prohibition in municipalities, and not in
favor of prohibition in the whole State He
fForaker) is IN favor of the Scott law, the ninth
section of which gives municipalities power to
prohibit; how can he justify this. and not Justify
State prohibition? He compared Foraker 20 a
sandwich man with card in 'front.' mot for
prohibition" and on the back placard, Not
against prohibition" and challenged him
to state whether he was in favor of or
opposed to it, He insisted that prohibition
is an issue IN Ohio, because the next Legislature
will be asked to pass prohibition legislation. He
demanded to know whether, if Republican Su-
preme Court was elected, it would reverse the
late decision that the Scott law is unconstitu-
tional, and compel saloon keepers to pay back
the taxes. He charged that this is the Repub-
iican programme; declared there were but two
methods of settling the temperance question
prohibition and license. The Scott law was but
bastard kind of license. He denied that he
favored graded license, measured according to
the amount of sales; license pro-
tects the traffic, secures personal lib
erty of the people. crushes out the
low dives, and secures obedience to the law by
dealers. He declared that houses of i'll fame
should not be licensed to sell liquor AS under the
Scott law. He quoted Senator Sherman as say
ing the Legislature of Ohio cannot license the
sale of liquor and under the present constitution
he could not see how tax law could be passed
that will not have to be construed by the courts
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a revenue power, Lot police power, as the
Scott law made it. The Scott law proved a
failure police measure because more United
States licenses were issued during the year it
in force than in the previous year. The
speaker closed with brief legal argument TO
show that taxation is really license, and uncon-
stitutiona.
Tremendous cheering followed the speech.
JUDGE FoRAKER's> REPLY.
Judge Doyle introduced Judge Foraker, who,
after the applause subsided, began by referring
to several minor points of Governor Hoadly's
speech He then said, that from the character
of Governor Hoadly's remarks. he evidently
mistook the speaker for Leonard. the prohibi-
tion candidate for Governor. The Republican
plank on the liquor traffic is composed OF four
explicit declarations-first, denonncing the DEM
ocrats for the repeal of the Scott law; second,
recognizing the right of the people to amend the
Constitution; third and fourth. declaring
ia taxation aa''' of the 'l' traffic. he read, cad
from Governor Hoadly's inaugural addrefs q
paragraph in which the Governor says the Scott
law ought not to be repealed. Regarding tho
right of the people to change the Constitution
he showed that the Democratic plan for license,
cannot be adopted without first amending tho
Constitution. Governor Hoady had just ac-,
lSnowledged that the evils ought to be corrected
As to the method of regulation he could not, of
all hat aa~icl laf