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The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01
STATE NEWS.
Gathered from Our Exchanges
over the State.

San Saba is erecting fine roller flour
mill.
Coleman is to celebrate the Fourth
with barbecue.
Two iron fountains are to bo put on
the public square OF Tyler.
Rusk will have new hotel, which it
claims will be one Of the finest In the
State.
Wheat X yielding from 20 to 30. and
oats from 80 to 100 bushels to the acre
about Coleman.
Spence and Alexander, Of sulphur
Springs, exchanged nine shots and es-
capped unhurt. Workmanship bad.
Too much rain Is the complaint In
many OF the North Texas counties, and
much Of the grain Is sprouting In
shock.
George +. MoAllistcr. charged with
murder, and James Sheady, burglar, es-
capped from the san Angelo jail, and are
at large.
Three hundred converts are the re-
suits of Rev. Sam Jones labOrs In Waco.
lie has left that wicked place for home
in Georgia.
Two siNteen-year-old boys at Sulphur
Springs, one white and one negro, got
iHlO lll biltiNNAlblls Nnfli Aut l'kib Nfhn
fatally stabbed.
A Dallas hack driver chcwed n cOun-
try sohoolmnster's nose out Ui shape, but
the pedagogue left the print of his in
cisOrs on the jchu's shoulders.
Rockport is reported rs already feeling
the effect Of the prospective San Antonio
and Arkansas Pass railway, and property
is looking up, with increasing inquiries.
The grub worm was doing some dam
age to cotton in COmanohe county, but
the recent rains has caused them to
cease their ravages and the prospects are
fine.
Max Renick, of San Francisco, tried
TO commit suicide at El Paso by shoot
ing himself, and it Is feared that he will
yet succeed in dying. No cause Is
given.
The Mayor of Gainesville, who was
charged with buying city scrip Mt dis
count, was tried and acquitted by the
city council, three voting for and four
against conviction.
A man. Whose name could not be
learned. living near Brazos station, on
the Texas and Pacific. sent friend oil
on wild goose chase and then made in
decent proposals to his wife. She shot
and killed the insulter.
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Parties desiring bargains in frontier
lands, ranches, and very choice pieces
of property in the central portion of the
city, will please call and see
3-20-3m NARCIso LEAL.
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01
Travis PARK Concert.

The following programme will b.
played to-day at Travis park by
the Eighth Cavalry band, Frank A. Hail,
Director. Time, 3. p. m;
l. Andalourian Bolero, Bosquet.
2. Overture, Jolly Robbers" Suppe.
3, la Belle ATaZone, LOeschhorn,
4. Selection from "FatinitZa," Suppe,
3. Song. "rhe shepherd Boy Will
som
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Stated communication of Anchor
Lodge No. I2l A. f. and A. NJ. this
evening at S O'Clock.
Members Of Alamo Lodge No. A and
visiting brethren fraternally invited
+. T.. A. DERBY, Seo'y.
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Ice cream ia served daily ut san Pedro
springs and families supplied. First
class meals served to order at the res
taurant. Suppers for balls and parties
served on short notice at reasonable
prices. G-l-Gms
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

OF the big sacrifice sale of ready made
clothing at A. NJ. Cohen's. 200 Main
plaza. Now is your chance to get O
cheap suit. Cliff
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Ever known in San Antonio in the way
ofcutting of prices is to be done in ready
made clothing at A. NJ. Cohen's, 200 and
III Main plaza. Positively at New
York cost. 6-l-tf.
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Merit alone is what Mishler's Herb
Bitters presents as its qualifications for
the approval of n fair-minded public.
We could fill this paper with teslimo-
mails of thousands who have been saved
from the grave by the iudlcious use of
Mishler's Herb Bitters. Nor is this mere
habble. We can show to those who
doubt, and who will take the trouble to
examine our letter files, that we have not
told all. Try 1t for dyspepsia. 1t Will
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

The Riverside restaurant has al
ways every delicaoy of the season
cooked in the highest style known TO the
cuisine art. G-l7-lm
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

New house Of 3 rooms, kitchen and
stable, on Starr street, on the hill.
Cheap rent for a good tenant. Apply TO
NJ. l.indner, library rooms, 22l Losoya
street. 7-l-3t
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Great reduction in prices on trunks
vallses and travelling bags.
G-27-tf Il. G. FROST
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

At Armstrong; Nectar Lemonad
stand, west side Main plaza G-2G-lm
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

The Kentucky Sample Room, corner
Military plaza and Galan street, will
open tomorrow, and all are invited to a
free lunch and beer, from 10 to Il
O'Clock. II.
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

Ladies' India gauze vests, low neck
and short sleeve, only 80 cents each, ut
+. C.. Frost's. 6-27-ti
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

"A ilrst-class quality of turkey'red
table damask for so cents per yard at L.
g. Frosts. G-2-tt
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

The most popular cigarettes are the
Opera Pulls ut popular price. IF
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

That old suit and call on A. NJ. Cohen
where you can get new clothes at cost
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

BSS'Special Attention given to for.
wardng bodies to all parts of the United
States Telephone connection. Calls
attended day and night, S-3O-ly
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

DlLDlhG Lf-T Two fine building corner
H. lots, sizelNl70 feet, in healthy portion
otthe city Irioe f2OO Address ~ Il. j."
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

g FOND HANb00Ks bought and sold mt q
y ioledad stft opposite courthouse.
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01

A n oRGAicHEkPH bran new church or.
n gan, Cd Sli5, 81 be bought for S75 cash.
Address IA" thlofiico. 0s-tf
The San Antonio light. (San Antonio, Tex.) 1883-1886, 1885-07-01
CHEAI COLUMN.

NOR RENT Thu barber mop adjoining the
l. southornho'l. Appl ut Southern hotel
Office, EMF
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28
Raleigh as a Tobacco
MARKET.
GOOD NEWS FOR THE TOBACCO
GROWERS.

From the way in which the planters,
hav ing gray soils, in the region trading
at Raleigh. are getting tobacco seed
from Major Ragland, there is every rea-
son to believe that Raleigh, before
many years. will rank with the first
tobacco markets in this country.
But it is every way desirable that they
should start out right for they can
never make any Roadway if they content
themselves with the production of to-
bacco of low grade. The world is too
full of low-grade tobacco now. FINE
QUALITY isywhat buyers will have. To
assure you getting this fine quality. we
nave arranged to handle the famous
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

Down ON BLAIR'S WILLIAM
The people now may beready to go
for 'the old fog and On olproPrt0tiOn'
with a whoOp. In North Carolina it
must be so, or the politicians would not
be so swift to advocate with so much of
zeal the most dangerous, the most mon
strous doctrine that in forty years of
political reading we have ever met with.
In the past, the people Of North Caro-
lima regarded the Constitution as our
ark of safety. 1t was the -Egjs Of o,a
rights and they tcoutd }eaoaHce roaudiy
aHy man who rouId dare to rob 1t Of aay
poUer or to mHtiiate It's proportions. A
fair, grammatical, strict construction,
both in spirit and in letter, Of the Sacred
Instrument was the way of our fathers.
Now latitudinariauism has taken full
possession, and members of the Con-
gross will get up and so twist the plain
letter of the organic law as to twist all
sense out of it.
1.-The passage of the Blair bill may be
received with shouts now, but it is dear
ly gained indeed when it is done by des-
trOying the Constitution and Jy giriHg 1t
an India-rubber interpretation tint IS
wide enough TOR any political heresy to be
cocered bg 1t. We have not a doubt that
the time will come and before the CEN
fury ends when the Blair bill precedent
will be quoted as an ample authority for
the Preparation of the greatest wrongs,
and for the spread and progress of Cen
tralization. This is rapidly becoming
a Nation, and its Chief Priests are South
ern Democrats. The lift in the flute was
its destruction. The people will groan
after awhile. Men living now will hear
it.'-Wilminytoh Star.
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

....NIr. Thomas ArIniStead has Sc
vered his connection with the Plymouth
EGamiatr.
Any one wishing an assistant teacher
III Primary classes, or a g%overDess for
small children, might write to ''B. B."
Durham. n. G.
....Rome, Jan. 9 .-The snowfall on
the Italian Alps is the heaviest within
the memory of man. Terrible accounts
arrive from the villages destroyed. 1t is
calculated that so far as known 300 lives
have been lost through the storms.
....Mr. William G.. Upchurch of Raj
eigh, has obtained the consent of the
late Judge Geo. f.. Badger children and
of the Trustees of the University to place
in the new Memorial Hall of the Univer-
sity a marble tablet to his memory
Chronicle.
1.-THE office of collector for the Sth
North Carolina District, which has given
the President so much trouble, has been
abolished, the territory being divided be-
tween collectors Young and Cooper.
There are now but two collection districts
in the State, the 4th and 9th.
durham Reporter: Mr.. Eugene
| Morehead showed us a letter to-day from
| Mr.. Jesse w. Starr, Jr of Philadelphia
| stating that he will be in Durham in a
few days prepared to make a proposition
to build Water Works. II this city
Mr.. Matthew j. Norris an old typo, to
Miss Elizabeth Riggsbee, formerly Of Raj
eigh.
1.-THE Blair bill which has passed
the United States Senate, and is now
pending in the House of Representatives,
%appropriates the sum of $77, 900, 900,
running through a series of years, a sta
ted percentage to be appropriated each
year for the education of the children IL
the various States of the Union, the ap.
p%ortionment to be made on the basis o.
illiteracy. Far the larger portion of this
sum, if the bill passes the House and be
comes a law, will go to the Southern
States, where it is most needed.
Not much of a compliment but compli'
ments butter no parsnips.
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

Cohen has been dipping the unsuspecting
old farmers of Arson county, selling them
glasses that can be bought in any country
store for % and so cents. at the exorbi-
tant price OF s. and $40 per pair. At
some of the houses, he passed off as a
Baptist minister and would thus the
more easily ingratiate himself into the
confidence of the good old people. and
make the art of fleeing them as easy as
falling off a log. Not content with swim
ding them on the spectacle dodge, he
would dig such as he could still deeper
on a confidence game. The pious, smil-
ing old fraud would sympathetially en-
quire the state of their granarles. which
would always be found low, and would
then tell a plan whereby they could heap
| them with corn for little or nothing. He
would then explain that he owned a
large farm near Goldsboro and had sew
eral hundred bushels of corn, which he
would sell them at 60 cents per bushel,
delivered in Wadesboro, they to give him
a small advance. In this way he sold
about a thousand bushels. Before his
fraud had been discovered he left the
neighborhood and was browsing in fresh
pastures across the South Carolina line.
This is said to be the same Cohen who
pedGled glasses in Cabarrus and who
swiDdled livery stable keeper NJ. l.
Brown, out of $25 and who brought suit
in this city a couple of weeks ago against
the Carolina Central railroad company
for $500, for a violation of the discrimi-
nation act. He passed off in Raleigh as
a D.. Lewis, and since he instituted suit
here, letters have been received from
Reidsville, Lexington, Mt. Pleasant, Raj
eigh and a halt dozen other places, show
ing up his transactions as a spectacle ped
dler in a very bad light. In 1870 he
jumped a board bill at the Central Hote
in this city. aud when here during his
recent suit, ne put up at another hotel
The Concord livery man came over to re
new his acquaintance with Mr.. Cohen,
but arrived here too late, as Mr.. Coher
had left the city and was ever then pre-
pairing to start on a spectacle selling ex
petition through Arson. He is evidentl.
a very bad egg.-Charlotte Observer, %
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

....Some men hunting Oh Rock river,
10 Great Swamp. near the South Caro-
lima line, killed a black tiger six feet
long. The animal died hard, after kill
ing two dogs. and one of the hunters had
a narrow escape. Another tiger of the
same species and equal size has been
killed in Sampson county. It had killed
a COW, several sheep and a colt. 1t is
believed tina. these tigers are those which
escaped f NJ Robinson's circus.
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

Life Maturity Plan copyrighted. Icr
mature ia Ten Years from date u Issue, ~
surance accepted on sound rl-ks from h -
tn fact that this Az-of 4.1rr
great superiority Of it, Plzrs aNI - tHa
circular and general aDforHaa.sr apply tl
3
Local Agents waUtet ever -
to travel az Special Agents ia S0ri4 t-ta..
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

HIGH ENDoRSEMENT.-The same
caucus which selected Vance for Il. 5.
Senator last week, recommended Judge
Fowle for the position of Solicitor Gen
eral. This was indeed a GRACEFUL and
eloquent recognition of the magnificent
abilities of the most brilliant and gifted
orator in North Carolina, and a strong
endorsement of the splendid services
which he rendered the State in the re-
cent campaign. We hope this recon-
mendation will have weight with Presi-
ldent Cleveland. and lead to the appoint
ment OF the gifted and patriotic Fowle,
Tor a more Appropriate selection could
not be make With a mind most thor
oughly train~ and equipped, with a
heart forever at bath in the purest wa
tiers of patriotism, and with a tongue
redolent with an eloquence sweeter and
richer and rarer than the honeyed drops
o. nectared thoughts emitted forth when
ever the lute-toned Tully spoke, he
would carry to that position the highest
qualltles that ever adorned that distin-
guished office, and President Cleveland
Will honor himself in honoring Fowle.-
Wilson Mirror.
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

This article is the first fertilizer ever spe
cially prepared for tobacco. and IS the
outcome of nineteen years continuous
investigation and experiment. 1t stands
without any rival in the production of
fine tobacco.
Major Ragland has just completed
the revision Of his famous essay on to-
bacco, a number of copies of which we
expect shortly, when we will supply it
to customers free of charge on applica-
ton We keep the ANCHOR BRAND To
BACCO FERTILIZER in both 100 pound
and 200 pound sacks, as may be desired.
Please let us lave your orders III ear
ly, in order that we may arrange our
shipments properly.
LATTA & MYATT,
Raleigh, n. O.
The farmer and mechanic. [volume] (Raleigh, N.C.) 1877-1885, 1885-01-28

THE BIG BLoW-UP IN LONDON.
About sixty visitors were in the
Tower at the time of the explosion. The
explosive agent was deposited IN what
is known as the banqueting hall of the
White Tower. This hall is now used
as an armory, and in it were stored a
large number of Martini rifles, which
were destined to be shortly issued to
the volunteers. 1t was behind a rack
of these that the deadly compound was
placed. The dynamite played it's mad
dest freaks with the rifles. Many of
them were twisted into the most eccen-
trio shapes imaginable, and their dis
torted forms were scattered about the
apartment Of a marvel Of confusion.
All the gless and other fragile articles
in the hall were smashed cut of all
semblance to their former selves. A
large hole was crushed through the floor
at the spot where the dynamite was
placed. Directly overhead a similar
hole was blown through the roof. The
wood work was was set on fire by the
explosion, but the flames were eXtin-
guished before any serious damage.
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10

Many compliments ~ the great ability
sad worth OF Judge Thomas NJ Cooley have
0eeu quoted from ths leading legal pubhca-
tions of The country. Permit M % add one
word of tubute, which 10 my mind shows
oetteI his nobility Of character and reaches
uearer The human heart than all that can be
said or shown Of mans genius or great
ae--. Several years ago the writer was on
the road between Jackson and Lansing
Judge e.. wits q pas-eug ger upon the same car
which vas crowded % IT. utmost mid
die-agrd. poorly clad lady evidently IN very
limited circumstances. came aboard the car
and after trayersIng nearly IT. whole length
without discovering seat, or receiving the
offer of any. she was invited BY Judge c. 10
accept his and did 80. he remaining standing
for an hour or more. and until the tram
reached Lansing. Others more gallant 10
the renowned Jurist than the poor woman,
offered him their seats, which we're politely
declined.
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10
Ansious 70 Pay a FIne.

Yesterday a man about nifty years Of age.
entered the Office of the Prosecuting At
toruey and said that he wanted 10 pay five
dollars. Mr Carroll 'he Assistant Prose
cutor. d.d not recognize the man a. a client
of the frm ct Turner s. Carroll and called a
clerk 20 6nd out what the man owed them
for Then the old man said that he did not
ows .nem anything. but wanted 10 pay i've
dollars Cor giving another man good whip
uin- Re wanted 20 get ahead Of the man
and par h,- fine before being arrested
When asked if be- pounded the man five dol
lar. rro-th le said ''No hs yelled enough.
and taes took me ofF before ! had given him
half as much 14 De deserved
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10

George Preston. who Was seriously injured
oy h. ". Babcock, at the Preston Hou-e
-tabbng ARRAY last Wednesday, l. still IN a
precarious condition. After visiting him.
Sheriff Kinney swore ont warrant for the
arrest of Babcock for assault with intent to
commit murder. and took him IN custody
he was released IN the sum Of 5000 bail
Peter " Werlich going upon the bond, and his
examinatlOu was adjourned until Monday
next Yesterday Mr.. Werlich surrendered
Bahcock % the sheriff, giving ~ his reason
shat 1e would not become responsible for
the appearance OF the accused without secu-
rity. and tins be bad not received Babcock
Va Lnaa.I m
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10
FOUND Al IAST.

be place 80 get your -ewing machine re-
paired sat-factonly. To thi- fact there are
many of toe people of Grand Rapids WHO
can attest and are pleased to rec0mmend
my work I vil cali ~ auy residence or
shop in the city and eEamne your machine,
telI son what can he done ard what if ulii
c0zf free ~ charge ! am getting po-tal-
erery fay asklnz me- to call and loos m ma
chimes ffs- saves ans expense or frp1b.e On
yonr part Hntil Fou kno0 exactly what VHi
% tne result Remember ] DO not seiI uew
machines or cork for ans company. and
hsve no interest AZ stake hrt ms reputation
~ -prslrer ~ -eVlnE uaCtine4. aifnea
uF shop af lt0 summit street stert rne year
azo and an rIaase6 fo i.uast Of g1u3 trsie.
h1f stab can 3o uore end want every lads s
patronage. Keep sH KINDS ~ sewing ra-
e6irs repairs. OILS. needles and aft7~ar1er
and repair Al kinds - machines Nher goo
send ma a postal -tate vhe- Bird ~ e
machine son have srd Z riH know Teef ~
bring when colle
2 II STRICKLAND.
~.uina Machine Aalster
-Eor iis ~1rrIf sfreer
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10
The Army OF the Cumberland

The Committee on Transportation of the
Army OF the Cumberland has addressed and
mailed circular 20 all the general passen-
ger agents of railway and steamboat lines
iu the United States. advising them of the
action OF the Michigan Association IN max
iug a one fare rate for the rOund trip 10
those wishing to attend the reunion here
sept. L. and L.. IL Il thought the various
as-ociatIOns throughout the country will
take similar action. and that many veter-
ans from distant parts Of the Union will at
tend the gathering. There u now every IN
dicatiou that many thousands from this and
adjoining states Will be here and the meeting
prove the largest ever held IN the society =
history
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10
nose AsoUT ne llQOos TAxEs-
Supervisors Generally hses lsefiag Their
Cufs 70 Maze Reports

-ri - 80 - -t-t @-t - = ~-'tttz = tsrff
OLfs 70 Mass Reports.
IL -leol ilsillce slin Ia Esfefrsd - 10 Ias
5 sl.1saas ~ Aenllas morning. the Sapsr-
sl-srs 9f fhs kirst seoond. Sssealh sad
ei .ata IS ards l.sss hlsd lAeir reports H. re-
sarl - lle sl.latis1s "a tse lqaor sa~ -lEh
fl-e loantg treasurer. Supervisors Steks-
-ee ~ 1r kust. o1asr1narhoru ~ Ils
s.senla aud Dagl- "a lAa EizbEl report that
-ass ave 4latas ts ana al les-er- % inslr
= anis s1o are 1olAz business @Itho.lt
i.ssllg pass lls state la4. bu. it l. ullslr1sl-
sl t4al laes have lol made sery t19r0sgb
search flf lell4 lzlfs especially D the
tlr-l "a asA Supervisor lyes 9f tie tlsrth
exported -esea lelllf. 4elt- AID oufcEsl-er
Lloll- ~ Ils oeco41 reports Ihn-a sLo
cave lat PAD Tie La1- A. soou a. tne re-
aatt. sare received - tne treasure he n0-
l1st iile parties 20 come in ana settle a..
once. ,'li14e have done ~ aud tle ease. uf
lio7r al1 "a Got pay promptly All L.
Iata.ctl -- tle hands sf the FFo-ecltiu- Al
tJrllS 4lo-e duty 4s defined in tie lac. -
o. forthwith begin prosecutions against
tl--l- tlf each lll every offeu-e. and Tie
las provide 90 al each day since TIE ursl
aollay N las shall be- considered re
separate and tlstincg offence there Niu oe
tnllt4 ~ Itrrg eases a-stllat each deul4 4eLt
Ioaler. NJ reports have been received from
the tllrd. tIIth aud sixth y ards. nor from
ass ~ the tolsu-hlp-. 4nd a. there are yet 4
Ie uamber af dealers IL the county sn0
have PAID lls Goserument TAX and have not
paid the state Tax, tlls reports OF the Super
tl-ors Are awaited slth interest. The ~
ports -houId BE- made during the nr-t nFe
days ot each aud evely mouth and ~ the
-arersb.0r. are paid Tor making them. there
.s n1 reil-ou Why they should incur the la,
llliy le pag a nne " i0u by neglectIng ~
uatA freu
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10

FTa-.- are beng ma Be % have Frank "
M1rrs a5lr3-ei mentally incompetent and
placed in charge ~ o guardian. The case
against hmm for being drunk and disorderly
w7- ad.ou-rfJ anul tomorrow morning in
f1hre fosrr yesterday. and IN the afternoon
tis mother. Mrs. Sarah A. Morris. filed pc
ation TEA che Probate Court. alleging thar he
IS mentally incompetent. and asking that
James Blair. Or some other suitable person.
he aupointed his guardian. The hearing on
the petition vili he had today
Grand Rapids morning telegram., 1885-06-10

Owing go the Increase m the number Of
telephones in use 10 the Grand Rapids tele-
phone Exchange. 10 has become necessary 20
publish = new card of -ubecuher'- names
and Numbers IU order that the new card
shall De- "a nearly correct as possible the
manager 0f che exchange requests shat All
subscribers notify him of any changes ~
their numherz etc