New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-04-24

English Government whatever It's faults is stil govf
eminent of tho cope or at least OF the ruling class
| the people, while Russia is not government Of the
people at ALL and her interests oppose the interests OF
the people All the Russian Government for the
people Just bow far display OF regard for them win
interests The Russian Government to-day, is in nearly
the position that tue Government OF NaDoleon the
Thrd was In 1870 Then. Napoleon went TO war with
Germany not to advance the interests OF France but
because his last chance establish his reputation
and TO retain his family on the throne. SO In Russia,
this the last chance to divert the minds of tile people
from internal discussions and discussions The Car
supposes that he VIII raise the prestige OF bis dynasty by
military victories. and then he thinks he VIII he able to
attend with greater ease to internal disorders. He
Trunks that the reputation OF the Government gained by
the war, would ruin the reputation Of the Ninlists"
POLICY OF THE TERRoRIsrs.
DO you think that this argument is a correct r.
"NO; think 1t is based on wrong premises. The
military would destroy the prestige OF the
Nihiss. No doubt the attention OF the people, as long
as the war lasted would lie diverted from the Nihsts
their mpathy their attention 1t would be
a fit time to discuss social political theories or
grievances But the Nihsts would not lose any thing
through with England any Power. for other
reasons In the first place. the war will overthrow the
financial reputation OF tue Russian Government and it
would be bankrupted. There would be universal dis
content and Ahsolutism would be overthrown, not
simply by small class but by the people themselves.
That is why it would be silly to kill Car present
He will kill himself"
80 This is the reasoning among the Nihilsts T.
"Yes" SAID Mr.. Hartmann.
"To what extent have the NIhilists suffered g.
"Out OF 5000 men and women" he said who were
among many thousands OF others enrolled in the ranks
OF the propaganda between 1876 aud 1878, and whom
knew personally nearly all have been killed sentenced
TO hard labor In the of Siberia. know only two
who yet alive. BY alive" continued Mr. Hartmann,
we who still free and not in prison. We
only count live those who are free"
"And yet they are not dscouragedP
"Oh. MOI" replied Mr.. Hartmann, with energy. "The
number killed imprisoned insane in the mines
does not show any numerical loss to the party The
places Ut the aud women who have been lost are
filled ten TO one by new men and women Instead Of
them there tens of thousand who come forward TO
take their places"
AT what time was the policy OF terrorism first sub
stuted for the policy of propaganiismT
" IN November, 1879 by the explosion at Moscow"
AT which you assisted the French express ti
ayes Il did not actually the button that fired the
mine, perhaps-but was there." said Mr.. Hartmann.
Mr. Hartmann then explained why this attempt failed
blow up Emperor. The Car had been the
ond tine train that blown up but the arrest OF
q man (whO subsequently became an intorne1 with
money and dynamite IN his possession. warned tue Inn
pei party that there mischief brewing somewhere
and the Emperor LEFT the tram IN winch he had lett
the city, and went into another he first train at small
way station. where the TeOrss had cOnfeeraes 10
nofy change by telegraph. aud Il us lie es-
caped being blown up; hut he was saved only 10 De I'M
INFLATED un another occasion.
The 1errOrls,s." continued Mr. Hartmann. much
stronger than at that time AT the time OF the
Moscow attempt there only fourteen members, men
aud women. In the Terrorist party That was all These
fourteen made dynamite factory aud produced some
hundred pounds Of dynamite and dug three mlnes-at
Moscow. AleXandrpyich aud at Odessa-whlch were
prepared TO blow up the trains which the Emperor
should travel But. before those attempts were brought
end, the ranks OF the Teri orists were well filled
| up"
What has become of those fourteen personsl"
Most them were hanged; some VINO are not hanged
yet. In prison. mal-maie insane by tue treatment
of keepers; have been baDished to Siberia
the cruelty OF the superintendent OF
the mines There Only two of us yet free am the
third II my friends VINO has been reported dead.
still lives. hard work Of the mines in siberia soon
| kills them, and they are treated most brutaly."
So. then. the Nilists Will not make attacks on the
Government during the war with England, II there Is
| to be "A war;
The Terrorsts will be quiet during the war;" said Mr.
Hartmann, dseIsiyely. know that IL Is their lnten-
| ton 10 be quiet"