The Indianapolis sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1880-1904, 1885-03-12

TO build the hall be did not see that IL would
be proper 10 antagonlze them aud therefore
he would vote aye
So the bill passed as voted above.
THNrH, TWELFTH AND FoRrYSEynrH JUDICIAL
CIRCUITS.
Mr.. Williams bill III. II. l02lto define the
Tenth, Twelfth and Forty.seventh Judicial
Circuits was called mp sgain, having been
before defeated for want OF constitutional
majority. and passed-yeas, 90; nays IL.
Mr.. oVERMAN, explaining his vote, said
ne that the citizens OF the counties affected
were willing for the change, he would vote
aye"
SAVINGS ASSOCIATIONS.
Mr.. Sohleys bill II. X. 1881 concerning
Building and Savings Assooiations-ireeing
them from taxation-was read the third time
and falled-yeas 30; nay, 90 for want OF q
constitutional majority OF 81 votes.
Pending the bill
Mr.. ENGLE. In explaining his vote, said /:
IL occurs 10 me that this bill would be bad
law. III IL passes II will release these associa-
lions from taxation, and rich person might
invest largely in one or In many OF them,
and thus escape the payment OF quite large
tax.
Mr.. PATTEN tinierposlne) He can't
hold but 81 COO In one, and must be Dor-
rover.
Mr.. LLOYD: Even 81 600 is too much to
escape taxation on, and vote no."
| MI. j AMBOON, WncO MS name was Chllel
said: For the reason that this bill does not
release any one from taxation, but on the
contrary releases from double taxation,
| really, vote aye"
Mr.. PATTEN: II the members under.
stood tins matter, they would not impose a
hardship on the stockholders Of these asso'
Citations. They are trying 10 protect poor
men who are trying TO build homes. If a
man borIows money oil them be does Ii on
real estate. He pays taxes on his property
Al the ASSOCIATION has to pay taxes on the
mortgage, thus making double taxation.
Therefore vote aye"
NJ. SMITH, of Tippecanoe: For the rea.
son that this system is an encouragement
for homes, and that l may not impose a
burden upon the men struggling for q home
and to release double taxation, | vote aye"
! Mr.. STALEY, when his name was called,
said: II / we're to vote against this bill /
could not look q laboriDg man in the face.
| For the Ies on that double taxes are paid on
them, al, wish to release il, I vote "aye."
Mr.. GO DEN II is true that this does
exempt from isA alton the laboring man, bat
is 1t right 10 exempt any man from legal
| taxes? IL is a discrimination against one
taxpayer and in favor Of another. l vote
mo-"
Mr.. HOWELL, in explanation Of his vote
taid do not favor exempting shareholders
| in this kind of an association any more than
| would exempt from taxation shareholders
in any other corporation; therefore / vote
no"
Mr.. KELLIsON: For the reason that l
do not believe there is double taxation ex.
acted for the reason that these associations
are not savings banks and property In them
can not be listed as money in savings banks.
| ! vote no"
! Mr.. MAUK, when his name was called,
said: After careful examination OF the bill
and the law am constrained to vote no."
Mr.. McMICHAEL, in explaining his vote,
cafd mt, RIO &c Ia,
| he pay taxes on the farm; aad the one hold
| ing the mortgage pays taxes on that. This
bill proposes q parallel case, and would az
! soon vote TO exempt the farmer as the share
| holder. l vote ne"
The vote was then announced as above.
So the bill was de Heated
vAcATING COUNTY OFFICES.
Mr.. RIVERS bill q. r. 52Sl con corning
the abandonment OF county offices, and pro-
| viding for declaring them vacant, was read
the second time and ordered engrossed.
sHAKY BANKS.
Mr.. JAMESON S bill { Il. Z. 3681 making
/ IL felony for any banker 70 receive dep0s.
its when insolvent and providing punish
ment, was read the third time and passed
| by yeas 20, nays 8.
D R. MUNsoN's CLAIM.
The bill rs. III to pay David r. Munson
for work done by him for the State was read
] the third time
! Mr.. PENDLETON: This bill is for work done
on the Asy lum for the Insane. 1t was be-
fore the Legislature two years ago, allowed
| and put in the specific appropriation bill. 1t
originated this year in the Senate and easily
| passed that body. Too much time has been
/ wasted already in these claims against the
State; the way they are treated is bringing
| In Indiana into di1repute. IL will come about
that State contractors will put their bids
| higher IN fear that they can not secure their
1 mOneV without tp0iOua dal9E
| Mr.. BROWNING: I think this tighten
ing-rod claim. The fact that the bill is OF
several years standing convinces me that it
is steal. The charge of 81 per loot assures
| me that it is a big steal.
Mr.. LLOYD: This bill came to Us after
having been passed upon by cool and de-
| iberate body. The Senate, am intorme u,
gave the bill careful investigation.
Mr.. MOODY: 1 asked Mr.. Browning ii he
ever heard of a man putting lightning rod
on a smoke stack for less than eighty cents
per foot. He replied that he never heard OF
! putting rods on smoke stacks. That is what
| thought. He was talking of something b
/ knew nothing of. This rod was put on tn
/ smoke stack, 1t was important under tn
eyes of the State officers, and If there was
order to put it up, why did they permit ii p
| The State has no right to use a mans prom
| erty for eight years and then refuse to PEI
| for IT,
Mr. COOLING: move to recommit this
Dill 10 the OOmnl1LIee on ways anQ Aedus,
with instructions to report to the House on
| Monday. So far as | can learn this claim Is
/ just one. We can not refuse to pay
| honest debt; we can refuse to make new
debts. To recommit this bill will enlighten
| those who are in the dark. As for myself
| am certain it is just. AS it now is some men
| will refuse to vote for the bill on suspicion.
| 1t can do no harm to recommit il.
Mr.. WILLIAMS moved to amend that the
committee be empowered to send for persons
and papers.
The amendment to the motion was az reed
/ TO.
Mr.. GORDON moved 10 amend that i, be
/ referred to the Committee on Public Ex.
| penditures.
| This amendment was laid ON the tahla