New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-08-30

Boston fwhere A was tnen cnAstns 1"e c"H'A~"
wealtl. who feared that the President had fallen
into the hands Of reactonsts aud that his Edict OF
Emancipation might be rendered Intellectual
While to the slave had gone cut paper proclama-
tion. which he might not be able to read, the
enaulet proclamation was still rather on the side OF
his washer For a tin the negroes did not stir from
their plantations The Abolitionists were no donet
too ,mpatient.-the Proclamation had rot been ont
a month-but still they realized the importance
that the Presidents great instrument should be
Entrusted to its friends and not to ais foes. AZ
length eome North Carolinians, who. long secretly
opposed to slavery had now formed an assocation
To make their state free, denounced the Caroinian
appointed by Mr.. Lincoln to be Military Governor
over the recovered portions of that region, deciar-
ing that he thwarted their efforts for freedom Win
ali has mower. The severe criticisms directed
against the President on this gronna no a9mDe
resided In Concord. never lost ms 1aith IN III.
Lincon's honesty and Justice. and It was largely
owing think to suggestions from him that a con-
snltation was bed Bsston mt which those present
agreed to go to Washington and talk over the
situation with the President. we nTriyed on sne
Wendell Phillips. u II. Stephenson ana my sell nan
10 occupy one rpoml and ON the following evening
Isaturday) repaired to the White House by appoint
ment The President however. was called out by
Secretary Stanton and could not SEQ US. oi course
suspected manenyre on Inc part hesrJ onp
selves called hut Mr.. Lincoln promptly arranged
IN see US the following evening In the meantime
view with Mira Lincoln which had pnt him in good
spirits, for he found her by no means friendly ID
certain persons near the President whose innuenoe
Ianghng ike bow. saving that IN the morning one
of his children had come to inform him that the cnt
had kittens aud now another . mao wh;te Honso vas
in n decidedly sensational state. some OF our
party looked little glun at this MARTY but u
vas pathetic TO SEQ the change IN the tresidents
f,ce when he presently resumed his burden of care
We we're introduced by Senator Wilson. who began
to speak of us severa!ly. when Mt LlncoIn sau ne
knew perfectly who we were. and requested ms N
be seated Nothing could be moro gracious than
his manner. more staple The persons present
phillins Francis w. Bird, Elizur Wright. J. H.
Stephenson George L. Stearns. Cakes Ames and
myself The conversation va, .h cNmr,esD ey
pressed our gratitude and joy at the Proclamation
Of Emancipation and asked him how il seemed 10
bin to be working The Presidents sad .na d nc n
quentiv had not been disappointed ne had hoped
and still hoped; that something would come Oh ~
hostility which the Proclamation had naturally
excited in pro-sayery quarters, and g'ntly limited
that the Mora ns, psed that !. was being
honestly carried oat by oil Of tho Nations agents
and generals il the south ,S pres;en f" lint the
masses Of the country generally are only dissatisfied
at our lack Of military successes Deeat ana
His face was now cloudrd and his next words
were somewhat bitter: Most of uss here present
have been nearly all our lives working IN MINOR
sat,s6edp Several OF those present havrnr
deprecated this the President said: AZ anv rate
has be N very rare that an opportunity OF running
this Administration hns been lost To this Mr..
Phillips answered in his sweetest voice: " ~ we
see this Administration earnestly WORKING 10 free
the country from slavery and ITS rebellion: we will
show you how can run 1t into another fonr
years Of power." The Presidents COOL -hnnlnr was
restored nv this. and he said: "oh. Mr.. Phillips,
have ceased to have any personal feeling or pee
tation in that matter-i do not say never had any,
$50 abused and borne upon as l baye been.
Nevertheless what j have said is true' replied
Phillips who then went on to submit our com
plant against Military Governor Stanley Ian ola
politician of North Cardinal urging the necessity
and soul In favor of his the Presidential declared
policy of emancipation. The facts communicate
To MS from North Carolina were also submitted.
The President was evidently aware OF them aud
did no. denv them. He only said that stanley was
20. 1862. was issued announcing that an Edict OF
Emancipation wouid be issued on The following
New Years Day for all States that had not laid
he could stand that" "Stand IL" exclaimed one
of our number. "Might, the Nation not expect in
Scs Pace socr sn reoeo p This made
the President little retraetile. and he said
aWe gentlemen. have got the respon.ibility Of
dent" interposed Phillips. Sbut you must he
patient with for If the ship goes down i doesn't
carry down yon alone; We are all IN It, " We'll:
to Phillips in acknowledgment OF the Justice OF his
remark whom would Won nut in Stanley's
place n Some one asked il il would not be better
to have nobody there than an active opponent of
the Presidents avowed policy. Another suggested
Fremont. then without any command as suhsti-
tute tor Stanley -Fremont being the natural repre
sentative of Proclamation of Emancipation which
he had anticipated In Missouri. al have great
respect for General Fremont and his abilites sad
pioneer in any movement is MT generally the best
man to carry that movement To- q successful issue;
It in old times-wasnt itf he continued
with smile. Moses began the emancipation Of
the Jews. but didn't take Israel to the Promised
Land after all He had 70 make way for Joshua
to c0mpete the work. II looks az If the iirst
reformer of a thing has to meet such bard opposi
ton. and gets so battered and despatched that
afterward. when people find they have 10 accept his
reform. they will accept 1t more easily from another
man. The wit and philosophy of this r"mark WAS
appreciated by us all; We urged, however: that
Fremont couldl hardly be considered pioneer
reformer and referred TO the general welcome given
by the loyal press TO fremonts proclamation OF
did not believe that the Northern people taken
whole regarded that proclamation with favor. In
the course of our further conversation the President
reminded MS that he had been elected by minority
of the American people and said he felt convinced
that his Administration would not have been sups
ported by the country. at any carrier stage OF TIE
war. in policy of emancipation. Even now. II he
shonld place prominent abolition Generals at the |
front he did not see what they could do with The
slaves. shoud these come in large numbers All |
can say is that believe the Proclamation has |
knocked the bottom out of slai cry though at no
time have expected any snd1en results from it," |
One of those present warned the President that IL
the of mil tary events should not he favor
able between that time and the election. |
the following year might witness tho re- |
turn of power which conld PIT the bottom in |
again. try TO do so. and his great work faith
fully begun be overthrown which would not |
merely mean q restoration of slavery but OF dis
union-for never again could there be a Union with
slavery. We then rose TO leave and expressed 10 |
the President thanks Tor his kindly reception
and for his attention to statements OF which some |
were naturally not welcome The President bowed |
graciousy at this and after saying he was happy 10
hay mat In hV in alteI
services. II not personally. and glad to listen TO |
their views added / must bear this load which |
the country has intrusted TO me well as can |
and do my best" He then shook hands afiaby |
with each of MS.