St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1885-07-26

them. The same may be said, in a general
way, of their school privileges. Many
have been educated by the gov
eminent, and the great major
ity of these when they return to
their reservations, keep not only all their
old Indian ways and vices, but all the bad
things that they have learned they at once
proceed to put in practice. The farming
at the two reservations l have mentioned is
on very small scale. They ought to raise
potatOes-pOtatOes the finest l ever saw
grow in that country, and no care is nee
essary and no labor save to plant them. If
they plant corn they plant dozen kernels
in hill and leave it to grow without culti-
Walton, and of course it is of no account"
I'VE had four hours meeting with the
Indians on one of their reservations and
speeches were made by Red Cloud, Little
Chief of the CheyenneS and others.
THE CHEYENNES
are by far the most energetic and have the
greatest capabilities. In the speech of
Little Chief he waXed very violent and
sOundly berated the great father and all the
rest OF US for not giving them better
food and more plOwS. He affirmed that he
had been forced to eat jackasses and could
get no blankets. The meeting was a very
interesting one, and after it was over the
committee took testimony as to the condi-
tons of the tribes in little school house."
rs it your opinion that the Indians
should be removed from the various reser-
yatiOns to Indian Territory?"
1--WE shall look into this matter rs much
rs possible III our visit to the Northwestern
Indians. 1 think that possibly it is better
time now for the government to do this
than ten years later, when it might be i'm
possible. 1t will be impossible now to try
it in the case of the Sioux, for the reason l
mentioned, but with the Piegans and the
Blackfeet l believe it is wise to attempt it
now. The game i'll their reservations is
nearly all gone and the government is
rOrced to furnish them all their supplies.
Il should favor the plan of removing
these Indian from their Southwestern reSer-
vatiOns to the territory, giving them better
lands and sell the present reservations,
making the proceeds an annuity for the
benefit of the Indians Thereby the In
dianS would be benefited. they would be
better satisfied and it would be great saw
ing of money on the part of the govern
ment. This is almost new proposition,
though bill before congress some time ago
was somewhat similar, but less cOmpre-
hensive in its terms.
Il would favor a scheme something on
this basis: These two Indian reservations
embrace, the one II, 900, 600 acres of land
and the other some more.
IN INDIAN TERRITORY
there is now land enough for 400. 900 In
dianS, while in the entire Northwestern
reservation there are not more than 210,-
600, or at most 215, 900, don't you know.
I'VE shall visit the Mile Laos and Chip
pewaS in Minnesota and propose this TO
them possibly, or, at any rate, learn their
sentiment ON the question"
This scheme would eventually bring all
Indians into the territory"
''All except such as have the homestead
right or are regular village Indians, as for
instance the Zunis in Arizona. OF course
il they have homes. and are settled, it
would be hardship to remove them, and
the government would not do it, but all the
wandering tribes would thus be brought
into the territory. We shall spend some
time among the tribes in Lower California,
and visit the ZuniS and other village tribes,
going to those agencies most remote from
the great highways of travel.
on THESE TRIBES
there is little reliable information, as there
is no report except from the agents and the
inspectors. The inspector gets around only
at long intervals, and. as his coming is
known beforehand, affairs can be fixed up
for the occasion so that there might be
crOokedneSS and nobody find it out, don't
you know?"
''What will your committee look up re-
garding the National park?"
I'VE want to make a recommendation as
to the feasibility of extending its limits TO
the southwark. believe there is said to
be a considerable extent of country to the
south that is valueless except for its timber.
If this is the case. l think it should be eX-
tended to take this in, on the general prin-
ciple that the government ought to preserve
all the timber land possible. There has
been some action on this matter, based
wholly on statements made by Mr.. AIagin-
mis-, and we shall take all the testimony of
all who can give it as to the nature of the
land to the south of the park. If there
is a region that is not liable TO be valuable
for grazing or mining purposes L should be
in favor of recommending congress to eX-
tend the boundaries. There is also 4 feel
ing that the park should lie wholly within
one territory, and we shall look into the
matter of cutting OFF the few miles to the
north that are in Montana"
THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI.
During the talk Judge Holman alluded to
the improvements on the upper Mississippi,
and seemed surprised 10 think that the peO-
pie OF the Northwest had any reason to OBJ
ject to the way it has been treated in the
matter. When told of the action of the
governor in calling the river convention
he at once objected, possibly from
force of habit. which has, according to the
become fixed whenever any
public outlay is expected. ''Why, look at
the amount of money that was expended in
saving the falls of st. Anthony, apprOpri-
ated as n purely local measure, | believe,
though it was said that it was made for the
benefit of the upper river navigation
largely. No state should be represented in
this river convention except Minnesota,
Iowa and Illinois, and the governor could
to advantage count out of his invitation
Nebraska, Kansas, and, in fact, L don't
know but all OF them except Minnesota"
Congress is aware of the little rivalry
that exists between Minneapolis and st.
Paul" said Mr.. Holman, when the two
cities were mentioned. land is bound to help
it along. St. Paul had public buildings
and so Minneapolis had to have one too.
We knew there was something of this kind
when Mr. WaShburn came down there and
pleaded so hard on behalf of the city up
the river We didn't know whether there
was a need of it or not, but Mr.. Wash
burns entreaties touched our hearts. and
so we let him have the money. We do
things very curiOusly down in Washington
sometimes, don't you know?"
ABOUT GEN. GRANT.
San three of the visiting congressman
We're well acquainted officially and person.
ally with Gen. Grant, and each spoke of
him in the most feeling terms. Said Judge
Holman:
He was not only great soldier, but a
pure statesman. His heart was right on