The Indianapolis journal., 1885-10-28
to-day shall beg off and keep il in banki VIII be
down soon. Yours, r. WARD.


The response was:
let Spencer have all the money that is due him. Re-
member the story of the cat and canary bird Spencer
cannot let money rest one moment when he has q
chance to draw. ]. D.
Mr. Fish continued: "On May had no
doubt that we could have got relief from
other banks had the government contracts been
true, as believed them to be. refusal to GER
| tify Grant 81 Wards checks would have caused
rumors which would have broken them up and
| then our bank would be forced down. am now
staying at the Murray Hill Hotel and believe
the district attorney resides there also We
| have had frequent talks together, but not much
| about this case"
| A recess for thirty minutes was then taken.
| On his redirect examination, Fish said: II
| knew Of Ward in 1876 and was personally &C
| quainted with him in the summer OF 1871 On
Jan. ], 1882. was associated III business with
| him in the firm of Grant 81 Ward. the latter
| alone conducting the business. In January or
| February, 1882, there was change in the rela-
| tions between the Marine Bank and the firm of
| Grant & Ward. Mr.. Ward told me then that
| the business of Grant e. Ward would be changed
| so that they would give up the stock business,
and that. through the influence of General Grant,
Senator Chaffee Stephen B. Elkins and others.
they had been offered government contracts for
corn, hay, feed, ETC., and that if General Grant
received the nomination for the presidency, the
business would be more lucrative"
Wards counsel moved to strike out all about
General Grant. 'It was my hope said coun-
SELL that the dead hero's name would not be
dragged into this case, and that he would be
| allowed to rest quietly in his grave"
II have had enough of that" said Judge Bar
rett. 1.-The name you mentioned is not be-
| smirched at all, and the evidence given is COM
| petent"
Mr.. Fish continued: "While in Cuba. in Feb
ruary, 1882. l received letter from Ward,
stating that he had procured government orders
| on which he hoped to make profit of $50, 600,
| but that he did not wish it to be known, as it
might InJure the prospects of the General IN Sc
| surfing his pension, and then he would not
act with the firm. In order to
| raise money to fill these so-caled orders,
| notes made by Grant e. Ward,
and indorsed by me. and discounted at the
| Marine Bank and other places Ward told me
| the money was used to buy beef, corn, wheat,
ETC., with which to supply the government with
| its orders as given. The special account or
| Grant q Ward, kept at the bank, related only TO
| government accounts, Ward stating that the
| business would be so large that it would be
| well not to mix up the moneys received from it
| with the general account of the firm. / received
letter dated March 5. 1882 from Ward, stating
| that he would need money to supply the goverE-
| ment with large number of bushels of oats for
| out-of-town stations"
Other letters were offered that were published
| on the trial of the witness
The business between the Marine Bank and
| the firm of Grant & Ward the witness added,
| of the failure. On May 2. 1884. there
| large number of Grant & Wards notes discount
| ed by other parties, and payable at the Marine
Bank They were constantly maturing In mis-
letter of March "a, in which the witness
referred to annoyance by reason of
Erie and other matters he meant by
''other matters" Grant & Wards business.
and when he spoke of burdens he meant there
was more than he could attend to, having all the
time to run after Ward to make him keep his
promises and meet his Obligations. Said the
witness: 'ln nay letter Of April "a. in stating
that our affairs were drifting beyond my
comprehension meant the affairs of Grant Il
Ward. On May 3 l relied on Ward, and on May
saw him at his house in reference to the money
he was to get, and ne showed me $150000 check
he had procured from General Grant. On the
night of May l waited up all night, expecting
to receive money and checks from him l went
to his house at 7 A NJ next day, and waited
vainly to see him until o'clock"
SCENE AFTER THE FAILURE.
''Was that the end of your acquaintance with
Ward2"
mot quite had conversations since with
respect to his transactions with our
bank and with myself. He came
to see me at my over
the bank, three or four days after the failure,
ana said that he could not help it. / told him
that by his deception and treachery he had
ruined me, had ruined my family had ruined the
bank, and had destroyed reputation which
had been twenty-five years in building In my
| Indignation l raised chair, and he crouched on
! the floor. crying, Don't hurt me- / told him
that if he were not such contemplate, sneak
ing, hypncritical sneak, / could kill him. He
crouched on the floor like whipped cur. told
him he had better commit suicide hang himself.
| drown himself. poison himself, shoot himself, or
| do it in any way, SO the world would be rid of
| his preeence"
| Ward smiled sarcasticaly as Mr.. Fish de-
| scribed the scene. The examination of Mr. Fish
| then closed.
! Receiving Teller John Ell. Carr of the Marine
| Bank, sworn. He said: 'sOn MAY s.
| Ward deposited with d check for $3.50
0O0 signed by William FL. Vanderbilt He
| then asked me to withdraw a check of $50 OOO
! saying the check drawn against it would not be
presented. | refused, but Mr.. Fish babe me
hold and treat it as deposit. The $780, 900 check
came back. On the afternoon of the same day
| Ward came in with check for ST. 800 On one
OCCASION by order of the president, 1 carried a
check of Wards as cash." Adjourned until to-
/ r,,n