St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1885-12-19
A CLASH OF ARMS.
Vest. Logan. Butler and Harrison
Have a Lively Tilt.

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to-day Mr.. Butler called up the resolution
of inquiry relating to the alleged organiza-
ton of the territory of Dakota into state.
MI. Vest said the senate by its record now
stood committed to the fact that there was
such thing in existence as state OF Da-
! kota the papers heretofore presented by
Mr.. Harrison and read from the desk hay
| ing borne the words state of Dakota "
Men coming here representing Dakota
style themselves the executive committee
of the state of Dakota. the chairman of it
being Hugh j. Campbell. who was not I'M
known to fame since the Hayes administra-
| ton for jealous and not over scrupulous po-
| teal assistance to that administration
This person. as Mr.. Vest saw by the news
papers. was to receive an ovation for having
received the recognition of the United
States senate for the Statehood of the
state of Dakota" Mr.. Plumb thought Mr.
Vest was giving Mr.. Campbell good deal
of gratnitous advertising. Mr. Vest said
Mr.. Campbell was welcome to it. He (Mr
| Vest as a lawyer regarded this Dakota
ORGANIZATION as REVOLUTIONARY.
| He had no doubt that the Intent of the men
| concerned was to organize state govern
| ment in case this congress should adjourn
without recognizing this sO-called state. In
reply to a remark by Mr.. Vest as to the
condition under which territories might be
admitted to the union Mr.. Harrison said
there was no such thing as breaking into
or breaking out OF this union. Mr.. Vest
said we were not talking of breaking out"
We had settled that.
| Mr.. Harrison-Then there could have been
no point to the senator's remark.
Mr.. Vest-I am not leaving this matter to
Et,ar I'D L4I.@
| if he had the decision OF this question.
Mr. Vest argued the question of admis-
sion from legal point Of view and insisted
| that under the decisions of the United
| States supreme court in former cases of adj
mission the recent action in Dakota was
revolutionary. He cited Judge Cooley and
| other authorities to the effect that an en-
| aiding act was necessary as preliminary to
| the admission of a territory as state and
asked what more outrageous insult could be
| offered to the sovereignty Of the United
States than the action OF the men responsible
for the recent developments in Dakota. He
offered. as independent of the resolution Of
Mr.. Butler. resolution to the effect that
the memorial from persons calling them
selves the state executive committee of Da-
kota be cenSured as coming from only pri-
vate individuals of Dakota Mr.. Logan in
quired if 1t was revolutionary for citizens of
a territory to get together and present their
| claims to be admitted as state, they TAX
| ing care to provide in
THEIR NEW CONSTITUTION
| that they should not be a state until con-
gress should approve their constitution. He
| thought it unfair for senators to regard the
action in Dakota as revolutionary until they
should set up as state and undertake to
perform the functions of a state and the
powers of statehood. They We're not revo-
lutionists. Mr.. Butler said he had misap-
| pretended what constituted state, if the
election Of senators and judges was not eX-
ercising statehood. Mr.. Logan replied that
this was done so as to take effect
when they should be admitted
as state. as has been done
| before. Mr.. Butler remembered
but one such instance. Mr.. Logan could
not undertake to correct the senator's recol-
lection of history. Mr.. Vest could only re-
member Michigan as an instance at all like
this of Dakota. Mr.. Mcmillan thought
Minnesota such a case. Mr. Vest differed
with him. Mr. Mcmillan replied that the
whole state ticket had been elected in Min
nesota several months before the state had
been admitted. and Mr.. Douglas had taken
position strongly in favor of admission on
that state of facts. Mr.. Ingalls, suggested
the case of the admission of Kansas. Mr..
Plumb had been waiting in Washington
READY TO TAKE HIS SEAT
on the admission of that state, and took his
seat in the senate the day following the act
of admission and that had not been sug-
gested to be revolutionary. He thought il
presented case exactly similar to this of
Dakota. Mr.. Vest had not specially looked
| up the question. Missouri took some inter
est in that admission, for, said he "a large
portion of our personal property escaped
into that state"
Mr. Piumb-Yes; some that was black
Mr.. vest-No, sir; some other; but let that
pass.
Mr.. Vest would not accuse the other side
of the chamber of lacking three electoral
votes. Mr.. Logan suggested. soto voce,
the reason urged for irving to get a state
into the Union might be applied to the at
tempt to keep a state out. Mr.. Vest said
if he had been disposed to be offensive be
might have remarked that the senators from
Illinois and Indiana anticipated that three
electoral votes might become very neces-
sary in the future. Mr. Logan thought Mr..
Vests illusions to partisanShip an error, Sc
far as he (Mr. Logan was concerned. Il
was the senator from Missouri who had in
simulated that persons might desire to gel
Dakota in as state for the purpose of get
ting votes.
- do not say that am an aesthetic states.
man." replied Mr.. Vest. Il am politician
/ suppose. 1 fight for my party; l am not a
Mugwump. Uaughter). l shall be satisfied
if my party. which I believe to be sound on
constitutional questions. shall say of me-
other thugs being equal. He stood by his
friends; he never rose to such an aesthetic
pedestal that he could not distinguish friend
from foe.' The senator from Illinois lMr