New-York tribune., 1885-07-10
THE RIGHTS OF VETERANS.
THEIR VIEW OF THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW.
A LIVELY DISCUSSION WITH STATE CIVIL SERVICE
COMMISSIONERS.

THEIR VIEW OF THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW
. LIVELY p,scussroN WITH STATE CIVIL SERVICE
COMMISSIONERS.
State Civil Service Commissioners jay. SchOon-
maker and Richmond, Mayor Low and Municipal
Civil Service a. rBV Posts
and the Veterans Rights Union, assembled at the
NewYork Hotel yesteFday TO discuss vsxea sSS con-
Of Gl besve
sri%laa,s against tie veterans :, of v.tns the
f Gom Ws' shs state '1S fa%sss " met
decide the question. Among the Veterans present
were Corporal Tanner, Thomas B. Odel; joseph
Ira n. Hedges, Of Haverstraw. All the veterans
made speeches and recalled their services to their
country Mr. Kay read to the Commissioners tne me,
Cy service sS aorabv dsc6srged aud are com
pcten to G any desired position by reason OF their
having passed an examination % S;s0te Oves
Two Old soldiers filling the. requiTements
had applied for appointment as fsrsmen .9lI
Il bsv the had Fire passed department. am e.a%natSn
were on the eligible list but at the lowest point.
The Brooklyn Civil Service Examiners require an
old soldier or sailor to be one OF the three oe
ten Of the veterans is that, Oace passing an exaW
nation and being certified as competent, the law
power to appoint the old soldier even though rating
lowest in the list. This, Mr.. Kay contended was IN
tended by the trainers OF the law 10 be tDe
reward This position was controverted ny Tue tH
Brooxlyn Civil Service Commissioners and by
Mayor Low who claimed for the appointing power
a discretion that the veterans claimed practically
nullilied their right of preference
All the old soldiers present made short and sharp
speeches, and declared that they were not asking
favor but demanding right. II was tne reTaru ;s
intended for them by the government Ior rish'"e
their lives in its defence.
Mayor Low explained the disputed point con-
csely TO the patient Commissioners and then gave
for
grant preference in all cases. and that mncn
ought to be left to the wisdom of the appointing
One old soldier remarked that Civil Service pat
ronagc would in that case prolong the llte OF us
dispenser for many years he Mayor coioreu a'
Commissioner Schoonmakcr thought it would be
oficious on the part of the state Board 10 settle
question which belonged within the municipal I'M
its of Brooklyn.
Mayor Low observed that it was a question of
grave import, and if the State Board would give
the weight of it's opinion 1t would settle the ques.
tion of the amount and extent of the old soldiers
preference not only for Brooklyn but for all other
Commissioner Shepherd having mentioned that
call, of course, share in grateful sentiment for
those who rlsked their lives, but"
spr;nrin@ TO his feet. I'VE are practical in this
matter and we will Sc it through. and II our rights
ore withhsld then Civil Service reform VIII suier'
that's ALL"
The State Board agreed to take tAe question
under consideration if memoranda of the points
made on either side were handed IN.
NO MONEY FOR THE HARLEM BRIDGE JOB.
CORPORATION Counsel Lacombe was asked yester-
day whether, under his opinion that the law was
mandatory as to the appointment OF Commissioners
for the Harlem River Bridge, 1t necessarily fol-
lowed that the work must be begun at once. MIR.
Lacombe replied: II have always been careful III
giving opinions to the city AUTHORITIES to answer
only such questions asked. In this instance
was merely asked If the law was mandatory or per-
missive to the appointment OF Commissioners,
and replied that 1T was mandatory. Assuming
that to be correct, the Commissioners must be APP
pOinted but it does not necessarily follow that the
Commissioners proceed with the work after ap-
pointment. They can do nothing without money;
and they can get no money until 1t is appropriated
in some way. 1t cannot be inserted in the tax levy
for this year because it is now loo late 1t cannot
priations, for. as / see by The TRIBUNE, the Con-
froller says that there Is only $1,000 left of that
fnd and that Is CI of Ss cv
increased for the purposes for until some eonrt has
held to the contrary 1t must be assumed that am
correct in my construction Of the law IN holding
that the city has already exceeded tho 10 cent
limit Of bonded debt allowed by the constitutional
Amendment of 1884. Therefore do not see that
the Commissioners even If they were appointed at
once could do anything until January OF next
year. 1t certainly seems clear that they could not
spend any OF the public moneys"
Theodore Roosevelt sent a letter to Mayor Grace
yesterday declining an appointment as one OF the
commissioners to build the proposed bridge OYER T
hs bss " be- would accep
the place
THE POLES NO LONGER DESTITUTE.
There was no happier family TO be found any
where in BROOKLYN yesterday than that in the bare
little apartments occupied by the Pole, Jacob
Andszezak nus ds teT@cnt w,e aad 'er 3
Twenty-second-st. The wolf that had been haunt
ing them for weeks had been driven from the door.
The doctor had called again and prescribed for the
children The good food was showing its effects IN
brighter eyes and healthier complexion L. tile Mich.
ael stIode around i'll comfortable, cieanly suit OF
second-h hand clothes which some kind lady living
in Brooklyn had sent hlm. Mrs. Andezezak cried
for joy as she asked the German woman next door,
who speaks four languages TO tell the good, kind
people who sent me money that feel grateful aud
shall find some work myself now"
The rejoicing of the humble Polandcrs was shared
by their neighbors, who did not envy them the
possession of the rolls of bills that had been sent
them, but prayed that more might fall. jacob the
head of the family. found two days work along the
GOwanus Canal and left his home bright and early
THE IRlBUNE has received $5 from f. W: So
from A. A. So frsm S. :. Picknn 81 from Z. X. T.,
and So from X. for the Polish family.
MRS MARY JANE MORGAN's ESTATE.
. On the application of Mrs. Emily H. Moir sister
on July 8, without leaving will, letters of admin
istration have been granted to her husband VIII
lam Mor, and herself: In her petition Mrs. Moir
81. 500 900; that 1t includes 1913 bonds Of 900
each of Morgan's Louisiana and Texas Railroad and
steamship Company. and 1888 shares. OF
$50 each par, of the Pennsylvania Coal Company;
and that the personal estate, besides these is OF an
estimated value of $2o0OO0. The heirs at law are
Mrs. Elizabeth A. +. Phelps and'Emily ii. Moir,
sisters of Mrs. Morgan Thomas Newcomb, and Jo-
hanna S. Seymour enly children Of her deceased
sister Sarah NJ. Ncwcomb, and Samuel b. sexton,
ONLY child of Samuel j. N. Sexton, deceased. her
brother. Mrs. Phelps, the elder sister Of Mrs Moir,
has consented to the appointment of the adminis-
traitors named.
REQUESTS OF JOHN PARSELL. THE ACTOR.
John Parsell, the actor, formerly of the Union
Square Theatre. who died on February II last
owning property IN this country and in England,
ol. and tho