New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-11-26
WILSON TESTIFIES AT LAST.
HIS TRANSACTIONS WITH GEN sHALER.


HE DENIES THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE HEALTH
BOARD SHARED HIS COMMISSIONS
WHEN the Gibbs Committee met yesterday Mon
mouth b. Wilson and his counsel, Charles a. ness,
were present Mr. Hess, after reclting the 70
of q previous session, when his client acc IhIn "
answer certain questions and 10 produce bis cheek
and bank books. anntnnced the re3ulhFss oi NJ,
Wilson to comply wit the request OF tie coIlni, i
that he m pht purge himsaf OF contempt. ne only
asked that the inspection OF his books might Oe
Waited ia a sub committee in order to avoid nm
cboirman and Senator DAILY retired, ana after
twenty minutes returned. Mt wilson resGi-eu tLo
stand and hefOlOwi;g examination ensued;
Nv the Chairman-Mr Wilson, find on May 10, 1881,
n check drawn to he order Of Alexander Smaller for
5000 A.-Yes. sir. l had borrowed from Genera
Smaller 5000 noe for four months and THIS cLeeH
was in payment of that note. That was before inc
negotiations for this armory sites we're opened
The chairman next called attention to the iaGt
that check for 81 900 had been drawn by the WIZ
ness on December 81 1891, to the order OF Il. a.
Walton Mr. Wilson re3led that he Thought the
check was for 6 E s nv the Hackensack
Savings Bank on property in New-Jcrsey., oo Uh
December 10 there another check lHr 7o'oVqV,
which the witness said completed lIe i
said that The mortgage had since been recorded III
his own name. , ... - 4,o
O. Had General Smaller paid any interest on the
mortgage t,ce thai YOU took up this mortgage very
,Q 1 atrer the commissions paid TO you on ac-
shorty H. nnrchSse of the armory sites Did yOu ever
GctIy or Indirectly have an understanding with Gen
eran ,d ,aSe nm tbis mortgage A.-NO sir Inever had
Te General dsfaulted The interest for three years ana
MONEY The mortgage had passed through two or three
parties ana got INTO tue sa ings bank n, sbolr ,nor
O-Did Won yoluneer TO take up that on"iGr hniV
gasei k.woll, knew Mr. Dayton very well ana
Thought this good invest mem. 1890, S,..,o. ,oo,
SWAs a matter OF fact did DOT General Smaller know
Where that money fe enno GH say that he
II was here decided that the mortgage should be
nroduced and Mr. Wilson started ont to procure IT.
He returned in about an hour MeahwIl,e MI
Sbaormnn Commissioner of Accounts, reappeared
and nrest N tel a number Of reports showing the re,
suits of the investigations into the accounts ana
methods of the several departments ny tne tolli
mission A large mass OF data was submitted
accompanied by few general eXplanations' zen
ator Mccarthy wanted to know OF Mr. Shearnan
wny these reports were not gwen 10 me Pupiuc
tbr1ugh the press. The witness replied that the
reports were made TO the Mayor, ana the Ma. OF as
rule gave the reporters access 10 tDein. pu. tn9
fact remains" continued senator MCCARTHY, 'Iat
feports of your work are not gwen out throuS the
public press and this, it seems to me- should DC
DONE" .,o.o,s
again resumed the stand. The papers ,pI9unceed
were bond by General Shaler to ChaIies II;
Voorhis for $3.50, secured by mortgage dated
November 8, 1872, on property IN hldSeheu,
bergen County, n. j., and also a bond secured DY
mortgage OF General Shaler to l. smith iiolnnns'
ir for SS $50 on property in the same locality.
THE witness explained that the properties were
opposite each otncr in proA unity to the depot, ana
on one a hotel stood valued at : 300 ASSIGNMENTS
Inv Voorhis and Romans to the llackensack SAVINGS
Bank were likewise su6mtted together WIN we
assignment of the bank to Wilson under date OF
O-Now Mr. Wilson. you also did this without General
Shaer knowing anything about II Al hiSnt nav
had some Conversations with him. have had 5000
uany conversations with both Mr. walton ana Etheri
smaller The original mortgage was for Sl1OoO OF wlr
S. go had been paid thought IL Eoo' I'eS'ioN'
for TO buy at $1,000. .. .,,... 80 IN
rears of interest was due A.-NO sir.
Odd You examine the property before maAihg the
investment Al think not. had Deen thcle anu
seen il number OF times. ,-..o
O-Do You say that at the time you made TINS trnsc-
f,n Won did take this property 10 hOiu III trust ioi
General shalerl Al do, sir. ---,,..o
The Chairmau-It been shown before the committee
that Won received commission of S39OUO on the saie OF
these sites. Witnesses have sworn tnat ticy enRaEeu
Won az broker the purpos OF having your lhu"euce
with General Smaller After you Tecel gu tls large COM
mission Won purchased $1,000 mortgage previously
rIvCn hy member OF that ArnOy Commission. lHeIe
i mt one inference, speaking FOL my SELF ana th is hat
i was General Shaers share in the purchase OF thse
lands Now did you ever have any conversation WIN
General Shaler regard to takilg up TINS mortSagei
Al do not think did A.. -. A. e,.on, NJ
tn lana being bought you would take up that mortgage
Al did rot. 60, ,o ~ ,rriso r,bor he
hail learned from you Mr.. Walton that tnis nOis3Ec
mos.
The cross-examination of the witness by MT
ctrobon was most searching. but he calmly an
sr,ered the questions with what appeared 10 DC
studied brevity, and did not materially depart hom
his previous statements. .,,,
Thc committee adjourned till Monday at l p. III.