New-York tribune., 1885-01-19

90 IN the previous occasion, and this time we did
not forget Mrs. Lincoln General Graht indu,reu ras
not we'll but he stepped to her slaIeroomn ~ am am
returned to us asking to excuse her we all LOON
seats in the da 10 M Mr. Lincoln that
Admiral Porter had given me the Bat, very neoe
vessel to carry me back to Newbern; ana that was
ready 10 start back then: II seemed 10 re wropn % T
':oldsboro nm INV absence. had no such lears ana
the most perfect confidence in General Schoheiu'
aud donbt not said as much. NH,
81 I on~bt not and must not attempt to recall the
words of that versaton Or course mono Oh u tnen
forcsaw thc tragic end of the principal h9ure OIL tat
gronp so near at hand and none OF US say tnr eAact
S,,aurer in winch the war was To close; but knew
that felt and believe the Others did, that the emu
of the war was near A.. - o;, Oh.
meshes closing surely around him. would not remain
passive but would make one more desperate e.oIt
and General Grant was proYiIiihs LOT ", oy huis"o S
General Sherdan's cavalry well to nus lett 1ahk, 30
as to watcb the rst symptoms, and 10 brihg the
rebel army TO bay till the infantry could COME up.
Meantime only asked two weeks delay, the st0'as
ana when we would have our wagons loaded ana
would start fFom Golis0oro LOT bnIksVhe,, Ia Ia
Raleigh. Though ! cannot attempt to recall tne
words snokcr by any one of the persons present on
thot Tv"o occason I know Ne talked generally about
what WAS to be done when Lees and Johnston
a.mies were beIcn and Dispersed On TINS p4ini
Mr. Lincoln was very full. lie said that he had
long Thought of it, that he hoped this end could be
reached without mare bloodshr'i but III any even,
he wanted us to get the delnGed men oi tig repu. m
contemplated no revenge; no harsh measures, pui
0ute the contrary. and that their suffering and
hurdsbps during the war wouli make them the
more submissive to law. cannot say tha, vi;
;ucoln mr. ANYBODY else. used tins language: but
know left his presence with the conviction that nc
had IN his mind or that his Cabinet hai. SOME pan
of settlement ready Tor application the moment
Lee and Johnston were defeated. -
In Clicago about June or July OF that year; when
ali the facts were fresh in my mind tod them I'd
George +. A. IIeay the artist VINO was casting
about for subject for an historcai painting anu
Le adDuted this interview. Mr.. Lincoln was then
dead but Hcaly had portrait winch lie himself
had made ut Springfield some live or SIX years
before With this portrait, some existent phoio
graphs, aUd the strong lcSinhlahce III ioti o' .i
Swett. of Chicago To Mr.. Lincoln, he made the
nicture of Mr. Idncoln seen IN t.is group. For
t;eneraI Grant Admiral Porter aud myself, lie mad
actnal sittings and am satisfied the line PORTRAITS
IN thus group of Hesly's are the pest cXtaht. nc
original picture, lite sle. ~. ! believe. now III
Chncaco iho property of Mr.. McCags hut Hcaly
aftcrward. i'll Rome, panted ton sha'Ier ,coPcs,
about eighteen by twentj-!our inches one OF Whitn
| now have. and Il IL nov wlthin view. tiihK tiie
likeness of Mr.. Lincoln by far the best OF the many
Loye seen elsewhere. aud those OF General Grant,
Admiral Porter aud myself equally good aud latin
ful think Admiral Porter gave iealy written
description of onr relative positions III that lhter
view also the dimensions. shape and furniture of
the cabin of the Ocean Queen, D9t thc falhoo" 10
uealys- typical. of course OF the coming pence
In this picture | seem to he talking, tue others
,ttentiycly listening Whether Helr made this
combination from Admiral pOrter's letter or not,
cannot say; hut ! thought that he caught the
idea from what told him had occurred whcn say
inc that if Lee w0ull only remain IN Richmond
between our thumb and fingers suitng the acton
to tine word II matters little what Heaiy meant
by his historic group bat 1t Is certain we four sat
pretty much IN represented, ana were cngaged III h
impoTtant conversation during the forenoon OF
March 2s, 1860, aud that wo parted never to meet
again,