New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-05-12
THE OPPOSITION DEFEATED
MR c1,ApsToNE's POLICY so'i
TIE Go.,,r' rur soupAN AND AFGnANiS!nS' !n j.; tho

.svSrIxG THEIR PLANS IN
TIE GovEkNnr sn,,n.S AND AFGHANIsTAS.
THE so Earl Granville, in the
LoNpoN' this afternoon, replying 10 an ru. '
'io ' nm, by the Marquis OF Sai'Soui' '.o, OF
norern,r ent were unable to MAKE "u! " Sondon
ascrt about their intentions resfe0'"s w "a Gran
rnrs 70 thc Afghan boundary question: hOu
III va" -, conference upon the subject had oeei
, himself the Earl OF Kimberly oecic'y
w. 1nd,o and Baron do staal. which resulleo ~ -, gu
ocroement pcrfectly satisfactory 10 Ens1"""' ""''
the Earl OF Duncrin' ~ ,o,sd in the
Ior Harrington, Secretary Tor war; s'"'e' - -, ,no
,,onso Of Commons that the decision reacheu Uy VA
covarnmept in regard to the soudan pracuc""y rS
49,, h.udonment OF the advance to khartouh' n0
Covernmeut he said had resolved to make ""IS Sn -,
tne most advanced position as pcrui''.n' -, 90 oop
Igvpt The British troops would be "ithura~ ' "9
s il,e Nile rises It is expected that the rlSis "i
obont the end OF May. The wthdrawaio Vi .o .ao
,,od the abandonment Of the engagement 10 a"V""oo
IN Khartoum This statement was receiver WIN 80
from the Government benches Enor's "ouU w 80, -,
so,l tho War Secretary to establish an - -
tbe nroyince Of DOngoa, and to compleVo 'n -
,,ay az n commercial enterprise. General Loiu "0
, al uortincton continued had advised the @oVbrh
mont TO retro to Assouan from the souoan' "ouo a
Woseley attached great Importance W so1 "a, rho
boats to Egypt to be used In patrollng inc MO
Government have intention OK eVacu"'uis ,.''-,.
mill some arrangement could be effected ior hoie "
-, ,ho hostile- Arabs either by England OF sonlo
lo
tor civlized Power At present. Suaklm couiu ho' o0
held without lighting osnan Digna lot many a.
had been besieging the place, and hau Heq"en''
clared himself determined upon DRYING tuo S"iii9oi
into the Red sea. Therefore the holdng oi 0u"NI 49,
amtary aud not political question III rcsu " N
oiec,ed railway from Suakim TO Berber Lord haruns
Ton said that he was unable to state "haV "" 'n ~,
definite intention OF the Government now ~. ouV
thought that LIE would soon be able 10 ihaAo '"''0
OF their intention D., ,u1 r i,coIn
Henry Chaplin Conservative member Tor Mu- h,n0o'n
n, osred how muell money the Government had spent
on the Khartoum expedition and II the sum vas soas0 @
or less than the S22,500,000 mentioned IN Vhe 4''''
600 as the sum requested for the soudan account,
Mr. Gladstone replied to this interrosatory anu 'o,
that the Government already spent great uea Vi
money In the soudan. but were unable al pteseu' soy
ybetber any portion of the S2250OOOO would DC s'oo
He then moved for second reading OF Tue Co,i'oN
Fund bill (the $50 100000 credib He urgea his oo'
in a speech in which he declared that e m % his subject
oderstand the differences which existed on 'ui r.od
between the Opposition and the Government ow as
the House to avoid every ] 10 nass Judgment on
fhe conduct of the Government Mt' uaus,U ;,or,ant
nonneed that ne was about u present some OK h
,oners in regard to the foreign policy OF Engiahu III nI
relations with Afghanstan. lie hopel tn' 1 ho innsc
ment wlnch Earl Granville had anL Selceu W u Win
Of Lords would made the subject OF c9nn
Russia No sooner had Mr. GiaasI@Gne @ d u"I6 6 GOVERN
than the Conservatives OF ened upon MN a. er @ n make
inent the btterest attack within ther oo d " GnorSe
This was lea by teseysIive tne ncmSer for Middlescx
Jnrd Hamilton is being strongly pushG 80 Sec
Tories as & sa1o s India from 1874 until 1873 and spoke
with some degree of authority lie secuIer of the
emdnent given notice OF by Sir Stafford NorhcOte on
5Tn, oner,d,"ent moves on the second reading
81 fb! consodafed FUND bill of censurc against
fhe Government and concludes In the loio"luS " ,,
ILL rSne their assent until informed Of the present
policy purposes for which the money 70 oe s""'
Lord George Francis Hamilton in moving considers
tion of this amendment said "The hlSnt " ~. w.
tn Warnnis NJ Garngton Secretary OF state Tor war
has iust made the most extraordinary snrcnnc
Inc their intention OF taking Khartonm the @ la
have announced tonight tne an5 men Yet the
S;cvernment expect this House To ac!Hlescc a. the
imcapictv of the men in office. Conservative cheers
The Government have surrendered esIIS & % EIinisteT
questions between them and russia; ie h , Iicb the
has altogether abandoned the attituae 9S "u met OH
Government obtained the vote OF cTs that from The
lection have TO the Premier pomCS S 10 has has shown
very day he assumed Office until now lac has o s Mn
readiness to sacrifice anybody and anything 10 save ~
sMr cbamberIan tainted Lord George Hamilton with
t ,st ccnM nof lie relied upon Mr.. ChHmbeElain
said that House would be Unable adeqa@ey @ r in
the presented TO It, nc cVntSn 5 m ,rcat & eX
tt I'm W ~ achcyed He was glad lind Lord George
Hamilton advocating the position that iath snOut nUe @
be placed in Russia hat the ouly course was 10 20
fo Var When the general elections came the Govern.
lnent would remind the Opposition o. tmcIi i s iTcd
would then be seen whether or not tue COUNT! ~ -''
Sir Stafford Norheotc denied that the AYES
desired fight Russia lie sara tney @ oS 10; or,Sr 70
tnc frontier arrangement with the Ameer III oIer
Russia defining the points beyond which an ADVANCE
would bc regarded as casits 0cu. , ,r,,oo,o roru
MIR Gladstone said that Sir Stafford Northcote fepu-
dated the grounds of the motion when mad Dcen
posed aud approved by his supporters. Inc VPlo@atU @
ised papers and made up Tor tner ins GtiiCreH Sben
knowledge by variety OF DaseleSs % Dnear that Sir
Peter fnmsden had returned in full conformity VIII VIII
lie governments policy and that frontier had Dee
secured through the friendly relations pet"ecn ecu
lord Dunern and the Aneer: IL l inlgnI ,ioU acSV
be found that when the Government TOOK gloomy 'o h
OF their position they doubtful OF gaming th1 oD
jects they contending for and that MS nole % n
those objects had been gained. IL was, was @ moe
without deep pain and reset tss se n Se a be blessed
prospect Of peace appeared AM anu Whjcb "wouid
have been a calamity England Russia CIVILIZED maj
KIND ard the whole world. Loud ana pr"iOpEou
cneord With the Amecrs wishes lie hoped to present
papers by end OF the week IN support oi the
p"rr, Chapp Conservative said that the expendi.
. ni so much blood and treasure and the ruin that
had been caused i'm the soudan due TO efforts to
save the seats OF an imbecile Ministry. ,,.., .bo.
Lard Randolph Churchill Conservative ahmtVe1 tnat
,h neanIng OF the amendment to enable the Minis
fers to qmt their seats with grace and dignity; @ InT
Tories c said had shown that they were not the war
PARTY but that those who had obtained tue FoVo Vi
Lord George Hsmilton's motion was defeated by a q
vnte OF 200 2G0. The majority consisted enurey y 0
House received the result rather istlessy. TINA
the division the bill was rea9 thg sSGCnn u NJ
ecats bill to a third reading by vote OF 10 10 %. u
we the Duke Of Argyll was R peaKg in tS Shrek from
Baron pormer, Liberal lie sprang 10 ms M ie9s @ anU
~as in a tit and unconscious Doctors were summoned
and they succeeded in restoring him 70 Isl
bargain with the Parnetss for teer 80 Ppo 6s4ease Se I'm IN
grant for registration expenses IN TelAnh
BRITISH AGENT AT HERAT.
LONDON. May 1.-THE Ameer of Afghanis
tan has agreed allow British agent to 1--WE az hera
In the pending arrangement with Russia Earl Granvi
ain ther ri0 htofE