Seattle daily post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, W.T. [Wash.]) 1881-1888, 1885-03-28

49, - aIo9l1s r4s-e-1 7 u me. and
after that the Arm generously con s.ude3
70 ies ne u as bait partner, an; then
sherEsrd a. bel partner, zpzsisl
hos getefeli Generously ~ | taszsh
st tie iisae
Gross examined by coansei for Cav
eTnnnsht By DIR. Root
5snsFal Grant, xhst va tie boar a.
when y11 zee aeeustotnsc 70 reach
your oT1'e IN the morning xhsn v01
1ers staying a. Long Branch Ia ice
surau nsr Of I5ss8
A isn O'Clock sas sooaf uly arriv-
lag tire.
Odd Foa observe IN the l,tszy
Shsea yo7 received fron Mr. FIsa. taa
answer 10 which has been ieeu.fsed ~
yoa, and WHICH u sntiteiy "a yoar hand
SrItlng. any fefsrsnce 60 q gverurnent
contrast
-, NO. there Vas not. had told ldr
ward when u Was Ensntioaed that ,asrs
never mnst be any governments csn-
traete tseFs. There ~ nothing wrong
IN being engaged IN goyernaasnE con
tracts more tnau IN anything else. On
less y y made wrong By the acts OF IN
oiTid1ais; bat | had sen Pres dent of
tne United states, and | dad not think
u acTissbae 70 nave my name Connected
win governments contrasts; and / knex
there vas no large profit IN them sr-
cept o. dishonest measured There are
SOME taea y no Get government contracts
year Ia and year cut. aud whether thev
naaoaRe their sa2irs dishonesty go make
pfoht or nos, they are sometimes ssp
posed 10, and did not tlink !: xas aay
place for me.
N.-And yon did not ind 10 taa. letter
mat you received any reference to any
Il q of taat sortf
Al did not ind anything of that
sort or ! should have stopped Il bat a.
q matter OF fact, | may never b ave seen
that letter. Mr. Ward may lust have
simPy given me statement OF the con
ieats OF that letter when q. ms Office.
u what did you undersGand t. be
lhu relations OF the firm Of Grant &
Ward TO she Marine Bank
A--NelI, knew that Ward wA- a di
Rector there, and seemed 70 have a god
dead 10 do With II +; but never suspect
cd thsre gas anything wrong about Il.
Q.-Dld you az any time knOS or un
derstand that the hfm OF Grant {
Ward had engaged ID Government COZ
tracts OF IN furnishing money 10 be
used ia carrying out Government Goa
tracts
Al never knew bu, one contract.
Once Ward said something OF trans
action of that kind, aud aasstiolIsd
him about H. He said b. had Just been
out and bought 550,lo0 bnabels u cats,
and there was quite a large quantity
more to be puFchAse in Chicago and %
be delivered. He told me tue dste
when V vas to be delivered and that the
contractor hadn't money to do II with.
and that he WAS doing il for certain
stipulated am 11nt. BAT the contract Was
10 other parties. And said thst DID
nut see that there was anything the
matter With that. The man had a COZ
trasi from the government fofa gu .usi-
ty of oats, and oats was an ar
tiele that could be purchased
very easily on the Chicago
market; aud said / did nst
see anything wrong in that, as Ve haa
no contract. Then afterward / began
Ia hear whispers around that ne vas .ay
ing he had Government contracts, aEd
questioned him about it, and he said
De bad no such thiuR. he said thlt be
g0nldut do any tnlng that WAS going to
iniare me, or anything | requested hlm
get to; and be said hs had no contracts
anywhere. IL had bcea said that be
had city contracts, and be as much a.
said 10 me that he was very we'll ae-
quaintsd with the city officials, aud that
made Ii easy for him 10 get contracts
from the city. told him | did not know
whether there vas much Difference
IN contacts for Nsw York city and those
made by ihe Government of she Uuited
States, ~ far as that - concerned: and
then be told me he had never had q
contract 81 all Of any kind with the
Government Of the United States or With
the city OF New York that the way be
did Was this. and be gave ms an ia
stance. tie said Now here Ia a mau
who had a section OF railroad = aud
don't know what road It was. Il vas a
road 90 az through PittsSurg, think.
connected with the Reading road He
said there was man who bad section
OF that road 20 build, and he said that
man, II be could have money furnished
for bis horses and his tools aud his little
steam engine aud everything be needed
there, be eeuld work - much better ad-
vantage on bis contract and that the firsn
OF Grant 4 Ward were 10 let him have
the money Ia do that contract Well"
4 hAttfe " uBEN NOT htfkA VI HE kEA III III
IL very good security. I should not re-
gard that "a very good sesufity for yozf
money A man who has taken con-
tract and cant pay for his horses and
steam engines and picks aud piows aud
shoveis can't be veFv good security fer
money. "Oh, but" be saws, I'VE keep
the contract 10 or possession, AMI the
N 'ney Is ala paid into oar o hss,. The
ruad, he said, held back 10 per cent un
ill The work sss done, and they paid
the contractors for everv subdivision.
don'k know What length uf road thst
Was that vas ptid fe-, bat they
kspt but ten per cent Of the contract.
sna that u the way be exp aimed il; and
] supposed be was more Of business
siOn. which, | think, must have been in
lSS3. when ws went ont 10 The western
part OF Pennsylvania IN the winter, and
Fish was along and party Of gentle
men. aud We had q special oar. Ward
was with the party. bat he wis not dis
cusse a at all. Colonel Grant vas along
aud there vas Mr.. Fish and FeFd nsns.
Ward aud James X. Smith. Meyer Mel.
son and ]. Nelson.
Mr.. spencer-Did Fish converse ~ ali
about the business OF Grant aud Ward?
Al don't think be ever did. | made
q remark. Fecollses, that Ward wAs a
msa OF wonderful ability. wonderful
business cap city, ar something like
that; and FisA said he had never got
anything in his life 80 good before.
. --iou did not draw from the 6rm
Of GraRt & Ward the prcti's which yea
were led 90 suppose had been madss
A.-No: did nos. Ieft them there
with the esaeeFn. and every thing ! had
besidss. aud | hAvsa't Got i cut. hsd
some little itssaa. hat dun't know what
amount of these we're pnrehase4 With
money Of the firtn thai we're pro6ts Of
the arm. They never we're p1rchasea.
bat then they we're supposed to ". and
I Vas changed With the purchase OF
then.
Q.--Yon drew. u understand correct
". from the tlrtn a ihss rsfe OF $40
month darina the rear 1881