The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1885-09-25
A Chicago Man Holds Several Thousands of
Center Township Warrants, and He
Thinks They Are Genuine.
At Any Rate He Takes Steps for Sc
curing Himself Against Any Loss.
Trustee Kitz Confronted with $4,000 Worth
Of the Paper Bearing His Signatures. and
lie Declares They Are Forgeries.

client, r. B. Pollard, is supposed to have left
for Canada yesterday afternoon. He did not
see Mr.. Kitz, although he made re-
peated efforts to do so. This gentlemen
was not alone in his desire to see
the trustee of Center township All day
Wednesday, and up to a late hour that night. he
and two other gentlemen who cannot be def
ntely identned, were on this search. Several
visits were made to Mr.. Kitz's Office, and about
IL o'clock Wednesday night the three left the
Occidental Hotel. Mr.. Macdonald was gone
but few minutes when he returned and went
to bed.
Since then it has been revealed that the Cana
dian attorney, his Indianapolis representative,
Judge Heller and the third man, were interested
in additional Center township warrants, bearing
the name of Ernest Kitz. These warrants are
outside of any that have heretofore been men,
| toned, and the signature is in every respect
like that shown in the Journal of Tuesday
morning. Mr.. Kitz would, no doubt claim
these additional warrants forgeries, since he
has SC styled their counterparts, which are held
by the Cincinnati national bank This plus
quantity to the alleged township obligations was
considered by three attorneys yesterday, in COM
holder of the paper Last night, when Journal
reporter called upon them at the Bates House.
where they were in consultation, the direct in
formation obtainable was very meager.
Are there any additional warrants in exist
ence besides those of which we have positive
knowledgel' was asked.
"There is no telling to what extent these
forgerles may exist, if they are forgeries. We
say that there is evidence of more than the
public has any knowledge of, but to what
amount is to be developed by further investiga-
tion.n
POLLARD HAS NO PATENT RIGHT.
''If should suggest the possibility of these
warrants being genuine--p
'That is a phase we are presumed to know
nothing about in our conversation with you. Mr..
Kitz has pronounced others of like character
forgeries. We are willing to give him the ben
eft of the doubt. AS far as this scheme goes
I do not think Mr.. Pollard has patent
right on it. To secure that, he must claim some
thing novel, something of service to the public.
Forgery is not novel, nor has the scheme been
of service to the public"
''Can there be forgery of these warrants with
out considering Mr. Pollard as being related to
themW
Under an indictment of forgery Mr.. Pollard
can easily be extradited but granting he found
it necessary resort to forgery, why should
he or anyone else, in scheme
of this kind, confne it to Center township 1t is
warrantabe to suppose that il one set of war
rants have been forged, which, understand, We
do not deny in our talk with you, other sets
have also forged signatures. That, you see,
would complicate the scheme, and require mas
ter hand in the of the pen to produce as
many signatures as appear the warrants with
which Mr.. Pollards name has been connected"
"You regard, then, the overissue of Center
township warrants genuineP
'In answering that question you would weigh
our reply as one in the interest of our clients"
said one of the attorneys. 1T is true we have
met this gentleman to canvass the situation,
and assure you we have arrived at nothing that
is proper for publication"
~ am interested you know in ascertaining
how far you have gone in tracing warrants Of
overissue bearing Mr.. Kitz's name
''Yes, but the question calls up other consid-
erations.~ And, indeed, we do not know the
amount. There is no objection to your stating
that we have accurate knowledge of a sum
which has not heretofore been accounted for in
your reports This may be only leader, for no
exact limit can be placed upon forged paper un.
til all holders have reported"
'.Ayn to understand that this amount is aside
from the So, 500 held by the Cincinnati bankr
'Yes. 1t has never appeared before in the
investigation" -
'You are not certain as to where it will lead
you9"
y
one gentleman. Mr.. Pollard has no patent right
upon the scheme"
"Am l to infer that others have adopted his
idea and worked in their own interestp
I'VE often hear of patents being infringed
upon and the work. scheme or idea of one OF
more initiated by others. We can say no more.
Indeed anything we have done so far is merely
in embryo, but within a few days there will be
developments that will satisfy you as a newspa
per man. We fully understand your position,
and would be glad to give you information, but
in doing that we would soon reach a line where
the interests of our clients would come in con-
flict with our desire to accommodate YOU"
With this the conversation closed, but from
other sources, and those of a reliable character,
it was learned that close friend of Pollard,
Thomas G. Hewitt, of Chicago, Is in the city
with number of warrants.
Notwithstanding the evasiyeness Of the coun-
sell of Mr.. Hewitt, it was learned,
after the close of the interview Civ
en- above, that the gentleman's mission
in coming to indianapolis is to take stops for Sc
curing himself against loss on a number of war
rants bearing the name of Mr.. Kitz and the in
dorsement of Mr.. Pollard The amount is said
to be $4,000, and So, 600 is due at early date.
Two warrants one of date March IL and
the other March 80, 1885. call for
that on the warrants held by Cincinnati national
bank. Another feature they have is that to
each certificate is attached stating that the
supplies were furnished. The paper Is Of the
exact pink Shadlng, form ana "oruihg common
to the Pollard warrants, while the certificates of
supplies being furnished are printed on white
paper
MR. KITz SAYS THEY ARE FoRGFRIEs.
Last night Journal reporter called upon Mr.
Kitz, at his residence, as the trustee was about
to retire for the night AS to the reporter, as
Shakespeare says of another prominent charac-
ter, ''al places yield to him" ''Mr Kitz." asked
the reporter ''do Won know that there are $lS-
600 or more of orders in addition to the Jennings
county paper, bearing your name2 Is it true
that 5000 of this newly discovered paper has