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FOURTH DAY.

No &. PACING-2.s2 class: purSe $3.50.
No. :. TROrTlNG-2:;5 class; purse S;}OC
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BEWARE Of limitations, pretended cures
and specifics, and spurious preparations.
Take only Hunts kidney and Liverl
Remedy.
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FIRST DAY

MAY 20. 27, IS, 20 pug so
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New York Stock Market.
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MERCHANDISE REPORT.

The following freight passed Ogden
| May LIST:
For Sacramento-Baker & Hamilton, 10
! corn shelters, 10 bundles wheels, l box
cranks and belts, 260 kegs nails; Hall,
| Luhrs d Co., 60 cans lard Mebius X Co.,
800 boxes candles; Booth Il Co., | box
marble.
For Marysville-A. Peri, box extracts,
. barrels marble dust.
For 0roville-C. d. Brandt, II bales ex-
celsior.
| For Stockholm. Klein bale dry goods:
James McCarty, CRATE frames, 6 boxes
| screens, boxes tenders, package plates, ,
barrels tiles, L package and l box pans,
| CRATE baskets.
The following freight passed New Or
leans April 9th:
For Sacramento-Adams Mcneil & Co.,
50 cases canned fruits; Hale Bros & Co., ,
bales cotton goods, l case dress goods, 2
cases boots and shoes C. s. Houghton,
| cases books case ink; Huntington, Hop
kins 4 Co, 20 cases hardware, cases bolts,
5 packages griidles, : cases sleeves, case
| tongs, l case traps, 8 cases cutters, l case
and bundle garden sets, | case cutlery :;
Locke Il Lavenson l roll carpet; L. Elkus
I Il Co, l case cotton goods, cases hats; W.
L. Peterson, cases candy; a. A. Van
VOORHEES,, S cases hardware, 6 cases sad
dlery, bales enameled cloth; Whittier,
Fuller & Co., barrels paint; H. s. Crocker
d Co., II bundles paper Joseph Hahn d
Co., barrel and box soda; Hall, Luhrs
& Co, packages tobacco; r. Harper & Co.,
i barrel pipe fittings.
For Woodland-H. Price, l case dry
goods.
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are several organizations in the East
which make it their business In all such
cases to Law the proper information before
the MAGISTRATES, and the result is that
oowerf1l restraining influence is thus ex-
ercised that absolutely prevents otfenses.
In other words, ii renders the law certain,
and II is in the certainty rather than the
severity of the law that its chief virtue
resides. 1t is altogether too common
thing to read in the daily press of the
country that in such and such cases the
injured party " declines to prosecute ;" al
together too common to read, "no arrests,
rs warrants have not been sworn out" 1t
might be made the duty of some officer to
lay information before a magistrate when
ever it is rumored that crime has been
committed. When that is done by any
one it is the duty, under the law as it is,
of the magistrate to use all his judicial
powers to ascertain who is the offender and
order his arrest That power was first in
yoked in this State in San Francisco by
the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty
to Animals, and was so successful in its eff
feet as to stop criminal cruelty to large
extent. Societies for the suppression OF
vice invoke the fnquisitorial power of the
magistracy il New York and Philadelphia
! to-day, and with seldom failure, and it is
found to be a powerful deterrent. Society
cannot be said to have the full protection
Of the laws it makes, so long as it is q
matter of ease to satisfy the person who
should prosecute in criminal actions and
thereby check the processes of the law.
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SILLY ASSAULTS.

This Journal has seen fit to rebuke those
it believed were acting unwisely and I'M
justly regarding the hydraulieking of min
ing debris into the rivers after the Courts
have declared such proceedings to be I'M
lawful. Thereupon certain mountain
journals have busted themselves in assail-
ing this paper We are entirely willing
they shall thus am,lse themselves The
RECoRD-UNIoN has been consistent in all
this mining debris trouble. 1t has nothing
to recant, nothing new to advance. 1t has
used It's influence for the best interests of
all the people. 1t has no enmity to sec
tons, no revenges TO crafty, no ambition
to achieve, except to be honest fearless
and consistent before the right. As time,
the great Judge, brings all things TO their
proper level, so it Will with the sill as
saults Of the few mining papers that assail
US for asking the people to stop the de-
structiye process going on that will soon
permanently ruin our navigable streams.
/ So long as it seemed at all possible we
stood for such measures as would conserve
both the great industries, agriculture and
hydraulic mining, always holding that
agriculture must not be destroyed, and
that the rivers and valleys must be pro,
tected. As heretofore, so now, we repeat
that no hydraulic mining process that
works the evils complained of must be pur-
sued. 1t is simply impossible to contem-
plate the unchecked washing of the noun
tains down upon the valleys. And we go
further, and say, that to invoke the law
against a few hydraulic miners and stop
their destructive work, and permit others
to carry on like processes, is unfair, and
calculated to bring the law and the cause
of the yalley into contempt.
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SOCIAL AND PERSONAL.

Captain John H. Roberts went up to
Chico yesterday afternoon.
Andy Rider came down from Loomis
yesterday, on his way 10 Oakland.
The Misses Nettie and Clara Jackson, of
| this city, are visiting friends at the Bay.
w. H. Meacham, of the Gait Gazette, re-
turned home from Sacramento yesterday
Colonel Tobin, Mr. and Mrs. w. F. Peter
| son and r. p. Burr came up from the Bay
yesterday noon.
| Eugene ]. Gregory returned home yester-
| day, after about two months spent Ill the
East and South.
| Mrs. Henry Vrooman, who has been
| spending few weeks in Auburn. went
down to Oakland yesterday.
| Detective F. T. Burke, who has been laid
up by violent attack of rheumatism, is
again able to be out, though quite lame.
Judge Keyser and ]. B. Fuller, of Marys-
VILE and Major Mclaughlin, of 0roville,
retired home from San Francisco yester-
day.
| Professor Fowler lecturer and Mrs. E.
Adams. manageress of the Philadelphia
Art Association, and George Cramer, left
yesterday for Los Angeles.
Prof. w. 7. Welcler, Henry Edgerton,
George f. Bates, NJ. NJ. Drew, Charles f.
Gardner and Judge W. C. Van Fleet were
among the passengers for San Francisco
yesterday afternoon.
| Hon j. F. Sullivan, one of the Superior
Judges of San Francisco, came up last
evening and is registered at the Golden
Eagle. He will occupy Judge Van Fleets
place in Department One of the Superior
Court during the trial of Thomas III. Rey-
| Irrhi 70
On Sunday, at the United Brethren par
sonage, n H. Lauritson, of Reuters Sta
ton, was united in marriage with Miss
After the marriage ceremony a wedding
dinner was served at Fishers. The happy
couple left on the afternoon train of the
same day for San Francisco.
In the city yesterday: Mrs d. Johnston,
Latrobe; II. l.. Howe, Modesto; J. NJ
Vanzile, Costumes; James Stout, Mrs
James Agler, Routiers Sheriff Mccoy,
Marysyille; Dir. Burwcll, 0roviile: W. L.
Lowe. Woodland; G. L. Mcintosh, Chico
J. H. Atkins, Elk Grove; B. |. Mathews.
H. Beckley, Oakland w X. Lindsay, Jr..
Costumes Jerry Bliss, Forest Home /;
Patrick Dorian, Deer Creek.
Arrivals at the Golden Eagle Hotel YES
terday: julius Tourney, San Francisco 4;
F. T. Harwick, Modesto; Il. A. Mccoy,
San Francisco; E. A. Davis, Marysville;
s. ]. Stroller Yuba City; g. A Comst0ck,
John B. Dyer, Red Bluff; s. B. Mckee,
Oakland; James d. Thornton, San Fran
j cisco Frank r. Meagher, San Mateo; Mrs.
II. Vrooman and child, Oakland: ]. ].
Stephens, San Francisco; c. H. Lowell,
VIM S. Wells, Oakland; Charles j. Heg-
gerty, San Francisco; Patrick Campbell,
Joseph Rigby, Smartsvlle; J. Palmer, San
Francisco; f. L. Brown, Chico Thomas J.
Clunie, San Francisco; Richard Bayne,
Colusa; S. n. Schwartz W. S. Wood, San
Francisco; Samuel Jones, p Anderson,
city; NJ. J. Doolin, Horace Halves, A. F.
Gum, S. B. WEIGH, Mucer Otey, Charles
D. Hines San Francisco Miss Mary Nc
Cornell, Elk Grove; Miss Parks, Miss
Woods, Miss Ingalsbee, 7. p. Mackenzie,
r. NJ. WEIGH, J. f. Sullivan H. C. Lhote,
san Francisco
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NEEDED.

There is needed in this city, and in very
many, if not all cities of California, asso-
Citations to suppress vice; that is to say, to
see 10 it that the criminal laws are en-
forced. When Il crime is committed, the
public have an interest in its being in-
vestigated in the Courts appointed for the
purpose. Except where the statute ex-
pressly provides for settlement there ex-
lists no right in any one to compromise an
offense. When that is done the criminal
law is simply as 4 cat's-paw for private
ends. Ofenses punishable criminally are
not committed against the person, or the
property of the person, but against the
peace and dignity of the people. A good
share of crime is kept out of the Courts
because no warrant is sworn out. There
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SEALED PROPOSALS WILL BE RECEIVED
y until IL NJ, on the Eleventh day of MAY,
1885, for the sale of property suitable as Il site
for the public building authorized to be erected
in this city corner lot is preferred. Ii
than l4Oxi20 feet If not a corner lot, not less
than lSOx120 feet the $50 feet to be street front
age Buildings on property selected to be re-
tanned and removed by the owner.
The Department reserves the right 10 reject
all proposals.
Proposals should be marked, Proposals for
sale of property for site of public building at
Sacramento, California and be addressed to
JOHN @. BROWN,
Chairman OF Commission.
Sacramento California, April II, 1885.
apps 2p6tTuThS
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A CARD.

OUR NAMES HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED By
" the papers i'll connection with the ARRAY
at the Grand Hotel Friday morning last. We
did not see the assault on Mr.. Iotz. We do not
think it fair dealing to print our names as be-
ing with the young men in the carriage, and
not giving their names too for we know nothing
of their action after we left them at the hotel
door, and only heard Of it the next day. We
did nothing in the matter. except to accept their
invitation to ride with them that night. For
fair dealing. it is simply right for us to say that
the two young men were Lee Brown and Thos.
Eagan. JULIA P0CkMAN,
m5-1ta MAY WARD.
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PASSENGERS FROM THE EAST
SPECIAL BY TELEGRAPH 10 THE REcoRD-uH1o

SPECIAL BY TELEGRAPH TO THE REcoRD-UNIoN.
PRoMoNToRY (Utah), May 4th.-The fol-
lowing overland passengers passed here
to-day, to arrive in Sacramento May 9Th
NJ. d. Foley, Eureka, New; J. Loontag, San
Francisco; Il. f. Pendleton and wife.
Frankfort. Me; DR.. Tenner and wife, Qua
temala; 5. Louis Mes, San Francisco
Mrs. NJ. Kramer, Salt Lake; Mr. and Mrs.
Roiiac, Montreal; c. Longiellow, Cam
bridge. Mass; J. c. Williamson, Australia
T. 7. Morgan, 7. p. Parker, New \ ork; q.
Lark, Philadelphia; Professor J. N. Cog
ner and wife, Salt Lake; Max Jacinsch,
Carl Fasnisch, Saxony, Germany; Miss X.
Pike, Miss N. Pike, Miss l.. Pike, London,
Eng; Frank Enthal, San Francisco; A.
Judis, New York; Thomas Acbee. J. J.
Shaughnessy, San Francisco; c. A. Panille,
France.
For throat diseases and coughs, use
Browns Bronchial Troches.'' Price, p
cents. Sold only i'll boxes
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NOTICE.
CAPITAL TURF CLUB.

A Ii MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO BE
n present at the meeting THIS Tuesday,
EVENING, May 9TH, at 80 clock, at the Golden
Eagle Hstel. BY order of
j. W. WILSON, President.
c. H. ToDD, Secretary. m5-lt
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NOTICE.

StEALED BIDS FOR THE BAR AND OTHER
= Privileges for the Drufds' Picnic, at East
at the store of N. STEIN, 100 X street, until
WEDNESDAY, May 6, 1885. ap29-1w
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EAST PARK, ON SATURDAY, J1NE CT
PICNIC KNIGHTS OF AMERICA.

DDS FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF THE BAR
ID and Refreshment Stand Of the First Annual
be he'd at Richmond Grove, MAY 18th. will be
open for eight days and viii be received at NJ.
STEMS Variety Store, X street, bet. Seventh
and Eighth. By order of Committee.
mI-St L E MASTERS. Chairman.
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Wednesday, MAY 20, 1885,

Executors OF the will of LUKAS KREUZ-
BERGER will, On
Wednesday, May 20, 1885,
of the Courthouse of said county, in sacra-
mento city sell at public auction, to the highest
and best bidder for cash in [. S. gold coin, all
right title and interest of said LUKAS kItkUZ-
BERGER deceased, at the time of his death,
and all right title and interest which his estate
may have acquired since his death, OF, in or to
the south half Is. - of Lot Four ~, In the
block bounded by Front and Second, and and
streets of Sacramento city, county and state
aforesaid with the improyem 4nts thereon, con-
sisting of a Frame Dwelling house, etc.
And notice is further given, that in pursuance
of the same order said Executors Will, on the
same day, to wit WEDNESDAY, MAY 20, 1885,
at the hour of two o'clock p. NJ, at the store
known as Number 416 X street, between Fourth
and Fifth streets of said Sacramento city, sell
at public auction to the highest and best bidder
for cash in L. s. gold com, the following de
scribed personal property The stock OF goods
contained in said store, consisting of Groceries,
Teas, Coffee, Spices, Woodenware and other
Household Supplies, etc. Also, the stationary
grinding and prep 4ration of spices etc. Also,
Coffae Mills, and Il Horse Wagon and Har-
ness. The personal property will be first offered
for sale in one lot.
property: Ten per cent. of the purchase price
In cash in T. g. gold coin on day of sale and
balance in like gold coin on confirmation by
said Court and delivery of Executors deed.
Deed at expense of purchaser.
Terms and conditions of sale of personal
property Cash in gold coin on day of sale and
immediate delivery of the property.
Sacramento, April %, 1885.
GEORGE SERMONET
Executors of the viii of Lukas Kreuzberger, de-
ceased.
BEATTY & benson, Attorneys for Executors.
1rlslnt 4
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Items from Lincoln.

Mrs j. b. brennan, of San Leandro, is
visiting her old home and friends al Lin
coin. as the guest of Mrs. c. L. Hotchkiss
The picnic held at Denton's ravine, on
last Friday, was grand success.
The young men of Lincoln are trying to
organize Parlor of Native Sons of the
Golden West. They have about twenty
names on their list.
On the Sth Of May the Knights of
Pythias of this place viii give grand pic
| mic and ball. We understand that the
Uniformed Division OF Sacramento will be
present to give an exhibition drill. Church,
Jones & Bebec will furnish the music for
the occasion
The pottery at this place is undergoing
repairs. An engine Of thirty-fvc horse
power has been exchanged for ore of sew
enty-iiye horse power. The works will be
started again in full force about the 18th
instant
Miss Mary Lohse, of Gridley. is visiting
her mother at this place.
The skating rink is still running. with
J. d. Alien as proprietor. SuNFLowER.
Lincoln. May 4, 1885.
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WASHINGTON, May 4th.-The Supreme
day, refused the application of the city of
San Francisco and Thomas Knight for a
mandamus against \. Mcfarland, Commits
sioner of the General Land Office, to COM
pei a patent for the pueblo land of San
Francisco. The Court also refused the APP
plication Of the same parties for an in
junction against the Commissioner to stop
the issue Of a patent to the pueblo to per-
sons whom the Secretary OF the Interior
and the Commissioner had decided to be
entitled to a Datput
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WASHINGTON, May 4th. = Heutenant-
Governor Daggett returned here to-day
| from visit to New York. He states that
while in Albany he visited the Capitol, and
was, by resolution of the Legislature, given
| the session of the legislature He was
also an invited guest at dinner of the
Manhattan Club
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A Wen-known Publishing House Goes to
the Wall.

BosToN, May 4th.-James L. Osgood d
Co., the well-known publishers, have
failed. They have made an assignment to
Robert Morse, Jr, and have called meet
ing of their creditors for the 18th instant.
The Heliotrope Printing Company also
made an assignment to w. Morse, and a
meeting of creditors has been called for the
18th instant also The liabilities ofOsgood
& Co. are about $4,000, with assets nomi-
nally large, The liabilities and assets of
the Heliotrope Company are unknown.
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Portland derives an income of $50.
yearly from city licenses.
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Frightful FAN of Female Gymnast.

fayre, a performer on the mid-air rings in
O'Brien's circus, fell Saturday night while
doing her act. She was swinging by the
heels, and, feeling that the rigging was
giving way, she screamed and Immediately
fell, distance of thirty-fiye feet She fell
on the edge of the ring, breaking three
ribs and her nose, and injuring herself III
ternally. She was removed to her hotel
in an unconscious condition, and it is be-
lieYed cannot survive
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MISCELLANEOUS.
AUCTION SALE
REAL ESTATE
Stock Of Groceries, Etc.,
IN THE STORE OF
L. KREUzBERGER, Deceased.
MISCELLANEOUS.

NOTICE is HEREBY GIVEN THAT IN
IN pursuance of an order of the Superior
Court of Sacramento county, State of Califor-
mia, made on April q, 1895 the undersigned,
Executors of the will of LUKAS KREUZ-
PEDCED will
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The StreIok and Garnet.

New YORK, May 4th.-At least 1000
persons visited the Russian man-of-war
New York and Jersey City, were blocked
with people admiring the vessel. All were
warmly received. Her commander, De
Giers, is a nephew of the Russian Minister
of Foreign Affairs The Strelok has
two Irish sailors. Nearly all the officers
speak French and German. No one was
allowed aboard the English corvette Gar
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HOME HAPPENINGS.


Inc Government " at GettySburE'
WASHINGTON, May 4th.-The President,
Secretary Endicott and Secretary Whitney
and Postmaster General Villas to-day &C
companied the Veterans of the Army OF
the Potomac to Gettysburg battlefield.
THREE PISTOL SHOTS.
WASHINGTON, May 4th-When the Pres
ident's train was near Mount Hope station,
MARYLAND, returning from Gettysburg,
about o'clock this evening, three pistol
shots were heard in rapid succession, as
from a revolver, and the flash of the weapon
was within two or three feet of the moving
train. 1t is probable that some enthusiast
had devised this method of celebrating the
passage ofthe President, and the demonstra-
ton was intended as a salute. 1t created
some amazement, and gave rise to several
| jocular remarks among the passengers
but since the return of the train rumol
has spread through the city that the Prsi-
dent was shot at. The President expressed
himself, however, as having passed pleas
ant day, and having been very much in
terested by what he had seen and hearo
upon the battlefield of Gettysburg.
PROBABLE CAUSE OF THE SHOOTING.
WASHINGTON, May 4th.-After the return
of the Presidential train from Gettysburg
| this afternoon, a rumor gained wide clrcu
lation that the President had been shot a
between Baltimore and this city. Inquiry
of persons who were passengers on the
train ELECTS the fact that the only grouns
for the sensational report is that shortly
after the train left Baltimore an enthusi
astic countryman, standing near the track
fired his revolver in the air as the trair
passed him, by way Of salute to the Pres
ident. Nobody on the train imagined for
moment that there was any intention o
shooting at the President or the President
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NEW ADVERTISEMENTS.

Stated l.. meeting n;etl of Sacramento IA; emit, &
THIS tuesday EVENING, at s o'clock. - *
Soiourning Companions cordially in 7 "
yited By order ri JOSEPH DAVEY, II. p.
W. 3. DAVIS, Secretary. m5-ltS
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Poygamy is enforced by the cunning priests
because when once they have induced n man to
much b1uEd as the monk IN his cell. lie cannot
remove his family anywhere ont of the lands
over which the priests have gained control
Nowhere else can he make his home. Tied
hand and foot by his deed. he is the priests
victim and tool for life That is why Mormon
priests Insist upon polygamy.
Daily Republican., 1885-04-09
A Reau Act.

Com missioner Black must realize
that he was guilty CT a mean and CON
temptible act when he asked Miss
Sweet, the Pension agent of Chicago, IT,
resign her commission. If he could,
without the knowledge of Secretary
Lamar or the President, take such re.
sponsibility CT his oSn shoulders, he
might have eventually aspire1 to con
troll every position in tho Pension de
partment and punish his political enc
mics and reward his friends to his
hearts content. l. was certainly gross
presumption on his part to act in suci
manner, and he must realize that tbs
people despise himself. Mics Sweet i,
acknowledged to be a very ef1ieieu
ieer, and as she could not be ohjec
tionabie on the score Of interfering i,
elections, there is no valid reason ins'd
the rules Of civil service reform, wairl
would warrant her dismissal III
President cannot aff,rd 20 let this an
derlipg act in this manner, ii lie w.she
TO pre- serve character for consistency
and escape the obloquy Of being style
a hypocrite.
Daily Republican., 1885-04-09
Thu Tfmea.

Some brainless scribblers charge Re-
publican capitalists and merchants
with holding back their orders for the
different kinds of wares and merchan-
dize on political grounds. business
men are not influenced by any such
considerations. When an opportunity
is presented to make money they en-
brace it, without reference to Its in1u'
ence on political parties. A manufac'
turer will not stop his machinery u
oblige any politician, neither will a
merchant withhold an order out OF
which he has reasonable hope to make
money, through party prejudice. Tue
law of supply and demand regulates
AM. controls business operations
When the goods of the merchants and
.,orel1eepers sell readily, orders will be
sent to the manufacturers and the manu-
facturer will labor to I'LL them at the
earliest practicable date. When goods
remain on the shelves Of the stores I'M
called for, orders are withheld and the
factories come to q stand still. II there
should spring up heavy demand ioi
goods either at home or abroad, the
m manufacturers will do their part to sup
ply it, without regard TO party consider
atoms. He is a great dolt who thinks
and is deserving OF either the
pity or contem Dt ofsensible men.