St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1885-10-11
Ohio's Rival Candidates for Gubernatorial
Ronors Engage in a Second
Bloodless Round.
Judge Foraker Kept on the Defensive, but
Still Declines to State His
Position.
A Vast Audience Listens to the Able
Forensic Efforts of the Eminent
Gentlemen.
E1ecting Delegates in Dakota to the
State Convention--Sanb
County Democrats.
Second Tilt of Ohio Giants.


took place tonight at Music hall Fully
2.000 waited half an hour for the debate to
begin. The interval was occupied with
music and good-humored calls for the favor
ite candidates. Judge Foraker appeared
five minutes before s and received a
vociferous greeting. Gov. Hoadley ap-
peared two minutes later, and was signal
lied in like manner. When the applause
which greeted the presentation of Judge
Foraker had subsidized he began by briefly
reviewing the Toledo discussion.
He said Judge Hoadly led the audience to
think the only question between the parties was
prohibition. In answering him he had pointed
there was no such issue except such as
existed in the vivid imagination of one who
fired one hundred guns in honor of Cleve-
lands nomination. He went on to
say the issue was wholly different,
that the Republicans proposed to do some
thing with the whisky question, while the
Democratic plans was to do nothing. Gov.
Hoadly had ended by an abuse of the Re-
publican party, hence the speaker would
now say something about that party.
True it was out of power, but it did
not go out as did the Democratic party in
1850. Instead of being condemned the Repub-
Hcan party enjoys the unqualified appreciation
OF the people. He thenreviewed the leading
achievements of the Republican party which
had been accepted and approved by the
Democratic party. Even MIR. Hendricks said
there were no issues only corruption and
fraud, but the books and the money when
examined and counted showed the greatest
victory of ALL Referring to the charges that
| memories of the war were being recalled by
| the Republican party, he said: ''Iflthat was
true. then Ohio was behind Virginia, for
| there the Democratic party is carrying on q
campaign with only Gen. Lees memory as an
| issue" But he preferred to talk about state
| politics and referred again to the charge of
corruption in the election of Senator Payne.
The only answer of Judge Hoadly was equal
TO confession and avoidance. He only said
that when the Democrats did wrong there
was an outcry while the Republicans kept
| still.
During this part of his remarks the inter-
ruptions were such that he stopped, and Gov.
| Hoadly, rising, said: ANY Democrat who
interrupts Judge Foraker is acting badly"
| The house became still and afterward main
tGined better order. Judge Foraker then
went on to repeat in some degree his charges
made before against the record Of the last
| state legislature, and said although it haG
| been guilty of much extravaganza, he wished
| it had made one more expenditure, that of
the taking of Gov. Hoadly and staff to attend
the funeral of Gen. Grant Applause.
HoADLY's REPLY.
Gov. Hoadly replied, after tremendous
applause. He began by saying that he had
two duties to perform-one disagreeable
and one agreeable. The disagreeable one
was mistake of his own. He intended to
say William II. Seward died a Democrat,
but he inadvertently said Lincoln died a
Democrat, and he relied now On the re-
| porters to make his apology to his Toledo
audience. His second duty was to welcome
Judge Taft back to his home; to welcome
him because, though he is Republican, he
was an open enemy.
| ask Judge Foraker to say now whether he
| is for or against prohibition. The Demo
| cratic party has never cheated the people on
the subject of temperance. Referring to
| Judge Foraker'S statement that the Republi-
| can party had been proven honest by the eX-
| animation of the treatury books, he would
| only say that it did not take a very sharp man
| where he kept both the books and the money
to make them agree. Judge Foraker says
there is no difference between the Dem ocratic
| and Republican parties on the subject of pro-
| hibition, and that there was no difference be-
| tween the Democrats and PrOhibitionistS on
| this subject. / stand for a national graded
| license system. I stand for the right of self
| control. l ask your votes because my party
| has been consistent with such principles, and
| the Republican party has been false to them.
| The legislature elected in 1881 declared for
| the principles of the Scott law, and it led to q
| revolution in Cincinnati the following year.
| giving immense majorities for the Democrat
Democratic party doomed temper
| ance legislation which protected
| miners, prevented sale of liquor to drunkards
and gave protection by allowing civil process
| in damages against those breaking the law,
| and this code lasted until the Republicans
1 tried to amend the morals of the people by
| enacting the Scott law. He then asked
again: Judge Foraker. are you for or against
| prohibition? You have another half hour to
answer in, and you can surely answer the
question in that time. A voice: What do
| you think of it? ] am against it, and I am
also against the bloody shirt. There have
. been two sermons on the Mount lately, one
| from Mt. McGregor and one from Mt. Gilead.
| The one full of love and peace and the other
| full of hate and war against One-half of the
| people. am for Grant and against Sher-
| man. AS to legislative fraud in the election
| of Payne he said, the only testimony of fraud
| in that election points to those who were the
| friends of the other candidates. AS to the
| last legislature, they gave civil rights to col
| ored men. Democrats gave coloted men the
| right to testify in court. Democrats gave them
| the repeal Of the black laws. I may not get
| their votes, but know enough to do the col
| ored man justice. Now my time is about up
| and only wish to say one thing more, and
| that is, l want Judge Foraker to tell US
| whether or not he is for or against prohibition,
Judge Hoadly devoted good deal of his
time to answering questions from the audi
ence. There was no chance given either
Foraker or HOadly for continued argument.
The confusion and Interruptions by the
audience were continual. Tumultuous
cheering followed his close and Judge
FOraker'S reappearance.
FoRAKER'S COMEBACK.
When quiet was restored Judge Foraker
said:
Gov. Hoadly began by admitting he had
made a mistake at Toledo by saying Lincoln
died Democrat. 1t is just as much a mis-.
take that Seward died Democrat. The mis-
take in this regard arose perhaps from the
same cause that while Lincoln was killed by
| Democrat, Seward was almost killed by an.
other Democrat at the same time. Judge
| Foraker said: 81 told you in the outset
that the Republican party is in favor of tax
| alton and regulation and opposed to the
nonsensesof being in favor of what cannot be
accomplished. 1t is in favor of the practical
I have not felt called to reply to the argu
ments Hoadly made by appealing to the appe
! tite and the lowest appetite. Gov. Hoadly
does not understand the men of the German
| wards If he hopes to win their favor by cater
ing to an appetite or passion. In conclusion
let me say that twenty years ago 1 went
soldering with the Germans of these wards
and know they appreciate the elements Of
this country's greatness. They have learned
the demagogy and hypocrisy of the so-callet
''old sumptuary cry.
The meeting closed with mingled cheer
for Foraker and Hoadly.
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