New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-12-20
GLORYING IN PARNELES TRIUMPH
IRIsH-AMERICANs ON THE SITUATION.
JOHN BOYLE o'REILLY, MAYOR o'BRIEN AND OTHERS
TALK-IRELAND MUST HAVE HER RIGHTS.


JOHN BOYLE o'REILLY, MAYOR oBRIEN AND OTHERS
TALK-rRELAND MUST HAVE HER RIGHTS.
BOsTON, Dee 10. (SpeciaD.-In relation to the
political agitation England John Boyle ORely said
to-day 1.-THE Gladstone plan as reported is no doubt
feeer for english opinion IL is also part OF the irish
agitation in England. 1t awakens the English masses.
Parnos eighty-siX members cannot compel legislation.
but they do compel discussion 1t will take three years
at least predict beforca any English Minister carry
through Parliament bill granting Ireland the main oh
jects of her desire Meanwhile OF course there will be
granted probably something in tho shape of an
Irish Parliament even"
"What are the main objects OF Ireland's desrei"
"In my opinion they to-day practically similar to
Ireands demand By Gratan in 17s2-complete control
Of the judiciary. commissions the police, and the
power to arrange 4 tariff for Ireands industrial needs
without these the country is enslaved, no matter what
pretepce be made of home government These are the
government OF any country"
"What do you think Parnel will do next r.
Keep quiet and hold his tongue. lie is not in check,
but he has placed in check both the English parties
They must play before he moves. The
complaint that he does not formulate
his demands and that the Irish want is vague and un
defined, is fent Of the enemy to draw him out.
IL is for him Offer but for England. Both parties
know proundly what Ireland wants Every American
editor, those who complain of Parnes indefinite
purpose. know it. But they Enslands friends not
Irclaud's."
"what do you think OF the Orange threats of civil
war;"
Il think nothing Of them. The Orangemen arc blus-
ering DULLES and Insignificant when Ireland moves
as ignorant. malignant, and selfish as
all carpet-baggers are. They disgrace the
respectable Protestants OF Ireland more than they
irrate the irish Catholics. They adopts at misrep
rcscntng Irshmen for the vile system has succeeded
for 900 years. Bat all changed while they
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stand chance in the field Of battle as they did
in the late election wel for the millions OF
freshmen who would vote could fight"
Mayor O'Bren said that he had not looked into Mr.
Gladstonc's scheme, but lie was firm believer
In home rule for Ireland and Scotland.
matter forced upon the people OF both England
and ireland. Tie great power of the people Of the
Urit,d States in building up the greatest Republic OF
the world shows that the time has gone By when intel
llgent people capable OF governing themselves
and their affairs Besides the rapid strides Of the peo-
pie OF the United States in agriculture and the inventive
genius the citizens in producing all kinds OF labor
saving machinery, particularly agricultural implements
revoluonlzed agriculture have impoverished
the farmers OF Ireland, the farmers OF England,
the farmers of Scotland and the farmers Of
Wales, and 1t becomes necessary for
self protection that "home-rule" prevail in all these
countries The farmers OF Great Britain poorer to-
day than they were last year and poorer last year than
they were the year before. " The English Cover ment
don't care for the people or ireland aud would give them
nothing were 1t not for the great changes alluded 70
adapted for manufactures and Land now
used for hunting eroands and the streams a.aI5,:
could be utilized for such purpose. Home rule Is but
he beclnnng OF what must 20 The Irish people
so distinct race ana their love OF liberty marked
that while they may be Wiling TO try home rule they
will never be satisfied until they have isA indrpend-
Tho Rev. H. Bernard Carpenter, pastor OF the Ioi!
street Unitarian church. said the federal principles OF
the American Government have 50 pelWeated inc
people Ireland that II local selfgovernment Is given
after the United states. The country never more
united since the oa ae OF i TSe a causes ra'' OF
religious contention nave almost died out
Should homo rule be granted II woud be "a much Tor
the Interests o. England 10 be friendly toward her sister
island would he for the best interests OF ireland 10
preserve the friendly relations possible with Eug-
aud II local scltgoverHmcnt were granted. the Irish
people would have no more cause for comp amt u II
would have none but themselves to thank for II.
In Summing up. would sly that Ireland wants and
wishes 10 do the fair thing by Ireland. Ireland would
govern itself well ard would not Try 20 fomeut trouble
ject as politician would. but do think that England Is
ready and willing to do the best possible th!nI Tor
John t. Fitzgerald said: "There time IN
the Of the irish race when We had reason 10 tel
preseu our IA Ireland, under
their brilliant leaders. have banlshed landiorIism dea-
tr0yed arstocrtcy ana begun tue Ie'Sn o.
10 a Methodist Presbyterian, Catholic or whatnot, |
when presenting himself Tor national hunOrs The only
questions asked are IL lie true to Ireland and elected
will he serve her faithfully In tie coming BRUSH Far
Lament tho Irish people will have better and Larger
representation, knowing their rights aud determined
upon attaining them, than any other Op- |
messed nationality on tho face OF the earth. !
"Gladstone Knows Salisbury knows they all know |
that We have something reserve that there Is some
thng behind all this constitutional struggle now going
on and knowing It they fear The irish leaders are
at present lighting England wtn her own
weapons, brain brain, and law to law. |
lf ter inst demands refused and treated with con
temp there Will be Invoked that which lies beyond
The people OF Ireland VIII get their rights peaceaby, II
possible, but by other means If England wants IT,