The Indianapolis sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1880-1904, 1885-04-26
TIE CITY OF MANY NATIONS.
Interview With Hartman the Russian
Terrorist.
Extinct Its Growth In the Army-A
War Necessary for Russian Absolut-
ism-The Nihiiists welcome 1t
Their Views aud Policy.
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Copyright, 1885
Some time since I met at the French Com.
munists ball, group OF Russian Nihilists
who had left their country for their Emper-
or's good. One OF them, a Russian Hebrew,
one Of the toeialistio propaganda was intro.
duced as student who could be trusted 10
give n clear aud accurate account OF the
Ideas, history and policy, both OF the Nihi.
lists and Terrorsts. After number Of IN.
teryiews with him, Ia which took down
mis- statements In short hand, celebrated
American friend Of these revolutionary ex
lies said that, In order 10 give the report n
semi official authorization, should eco sir.
Hartman, the most famous aud the most
dreaded Of the Teuofista the man who
made the attempt 10 blow up. near Morrow,
the train on which the Emperor was travel
ing the episode known in the annals OF The
Nlhilials ~ the moscow Attempt
With some difficulty, and after consider,
able Journey, obtained an interview with
Mr. Hartman, IA with most famous char
rtera the careless observer whonld never
sutpeol, II they bhonld meet Mr.. Hartman
Ia the street, that thla nlight built, middle
hlRed, nervous man, was the one persln
feared,
Ito isa man nIneulafy modest and even
shy Ina hih demehnor qulet aud uaRstumiugi
without the iainteat trace OF egoilam or Ut
bfnyadosm, either Ia his aet Qua or his talk
iie has refined and almost delicate feat.
ufeA, and II ho should be- met, dressed Ia
evening tuit, at a social party, he would
probably he the last man euapeo led Ia nay
company af dozen gentlemen, 40 HAVING
been one OF the ohlel leaders OF the Nlhiliath
when he was la Russia, and az one OF the
daring initlaloru OF the policy Of Terrorism.
! submitted 10 Mr.. Hartman the interviews
that l had had with my Russia Hebrew
fflend, He vent over the manuscript very
carefully, making such corrections "a were
needed-all OF which, OF course, accepted
"a that II would DO not accurate ony bat
Geo TO spoakl al authorized daolaral on OF the
policy and purposes OF the Nihillsta, whose
action, II Russia should wage war With Eng
land will be OF the utm0ht Interests 90 the
civilized world.
After the corrections had been made and
Mr. Hartman had declared the interYew %
be, ~ far as IL went, n correct short statement
OF The history, theories and purposes of the
Nihiliaia and TerrOriEts, / took up the Bar
day morning journals aud read tho latest
cable dispatch about the Nihilisis. This ~
the diepateh'
THE NlHlLISr GONE LIKE THE ARAB.
PEsTH, April lS.--Pesther Lloyds CORES.
pendent At St. Petersburg atfrms that Nj.
hilism has practically ceased 10 EXIST In the
Russian confines. The Nihilist societies, he
says, have dissolved because Of lack OF sup.
port among the common people of Rusna,
owing TO their repugnRnoe TO the propaganda
OF murder and blood
Mr.. Hartman read the dispatch and then
gave HE views OF the Russian situation. he
speaks the English language with some heal
tation, but makes himself perfs city under.
stood. do not always give his origiosl
words, bat he has revised tbs report and
adopts the merely verbal alterations that
were made In il, which extended only 10 the
trsDslations of the idioms.
We'll, Mr.. Hartman, what do you say
about that Dispatch
Il say" he began, THAT / have enough
direct information from Russia to say post
lively, that it is entirely untrue. Nihiiism
is not extinct but growing, and growing lex
lending still further. | call them Nihilis,s
In accordance with the custom OF Western
Europe and America, but they are not Nj.
hilisis-l would call them Socialists. With
regard to the Terrorists or that section Of
Socialists that are called Nihilists, ] say that
it is not from the lack of the support OF the
people that they seem idle-but simply that
their interests-the Interest of the party-re-
quire them to wait before they strike their
last blow.
The Nihilists regard the policy of the
point of view of his own Gynsstic interests
First OF ali almost his first act, he executed
a woman. lady, Sophia Peroyskia, who lad
occupied prominent position Ia society.
No Czsr had ever before done such al act,
end IT made him very unpopular. Then he
e' c AIRED, in manifesto. that be was going
TO support, or MAINTAIN, the system OF Aos0-
lutism in government, when every one 10
Russia, even his personal advisers, knew that
IL was en- impossiblity to do so day. The
pTeteDce that the Government now believes
that Nihilism is dead is the repetition OF an
old story. Only few years ago-two or
three years since-yeu may remember that
the Chancellor, Prince Gortshakoff, declared
that there was no probability OF revelation
In Russia Il do no. use his precise words,
bat as nearly as remember his thought
he said that a constitutional Government
was an imposslb;lity in Russia. There would
be either republic or absolutism, and the
fast that abSc lutism did exist refuted the no.
ton that the people desired q different form
of Government! He urged that the aeq1ies-
ence OF the people showed that personal
form OF Government suited them, and proved
the imPossibility OF establishing republican
form OF Government. Toe logic of events
has since demonstrated that the logo OF the
Government was fallacious. It Was not long
after that declaration that q military com
mission was established with a Grand Dake
at it's head, TO fad out the extent of the So
cialism in the army and TO devise means TO
suppress it There would have bsen no need
OF investigating propogandism in the army
and TO devise means to suppress il. There
would have been no need Of investigating
propagsndism in the army II Nihilism had
been dead as they pretended, and it was no
proof OF the saying that Nihilisn was dead
when bur dreds OF military officers we're SEN
fenced TO Siberia"
Do you think that the Russian Govern
ment wants TO feht lust now?'
Yes" promptly responded the Terrorist,
~ DC. Seven months ago. | stated 70 a re