Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1885-08-05
CATTLE MEN CHAGRINED.
CLEVELAND REFUSES TO MOD
IFY HIS ORDER.


IFY HIS ORDER.
THE Lives ana Interests Of Settlers
Paramount in the Presidents Opinion
TO the Welfare ofthe Herdsmen-Aile-
cations of Threatened PecuniarY Loss
BaVe no Effect.
WASHINGTON, Aug. 4.-The delegation
representing the cattlemen called on the
President this afternoon and presented
memorial, in behalf Of the lessees of lands
in the Cheyenne and Arapahoe reserys-
ton, Indian Territory, asking that they
be allowed until spring to remove Their
cattle, which number 100000 The
memorial calls attention to the invest
ment IN range improvements, fencing
corrals, etc, which, together with the cat
tie made an aggregate investment oi over
81 600 600 and saws that il ia absolutely
impossible to secure lands and move the
cattle in the time allowed. MAJ. Moore,
representing business men OF Kansas
City, presented a number of resolutions
adopted at a recent meeting held IN that
city. he said he believed that the re
moval Of the cattle at the present time
would result in great injury 10 the entire
country. Col. Denman said he spoke IS
one interested.
WOULD CAUSE LOSS OF 80 PER CENT
He thought shat the removal would re-
suit in the loss of One-half of the interest
OF those owning cattle. The cattiemrn
understood their business. They under
stood it better than army oticers-better
than President Cleveland. They knew
what could be done. The cattlemen hao
gone into the Territory with the encour-
agement of Secretary Teller. He had
written letters fayOring them. Leases
had passed from the original hands into
the hands Of corporations. Many widows
and orphans were interested in these cor
p0rations, and they would be the losers.
Forty days would not more than be time
enough 10 buy horses and employ men
and get things in shape 10 make the re-
mOval. The Cattlemen asked that they
might be allowed until spring 70 drive
their cattle.
KANSAS CITY AFRAID OF A PANIC.
DIR. Morrison Mumford editor Of the
Kansas City Times, was introduced 70 the
President as one VINO had always opposed
the leasing of the lands. He said that he
had been opposed to such practices and
was opposed to them now, but business
interests demanded that consideration
should be given to the men who were thus
forced 10 leave the reservations. Kansas
CITY would be injured by such removal,
and he feared that panic would be the
result of the immediate enforcement Of
the order.
CLEvRLAND's REPLY.
"This application, as l understand it,
said the President, after DR.. Mumford
had seated himself, sis that the cattle be
allowed to remain on the reservation
until next spring?"
Col. Denman, representing one OF the
largest ranches on the reservation, re-
piled: 1--WE Will move at once aud make
such progress as we can. We ask time
until spring in which to finish the bust
ness. We are determined to get out as
fast as we can"
ssThere Is one point that seems to escape
your attention gentlemen" the President
said. "That point is before my eye, and
il is the public interest. We have lately
seen what fears can be created by thirty
or forty Indians.
KANSAS STILL IN A TRHNlBLE.
"Within two hours a letter mas come to
my desk from the Governor of Kansas
urging that the troops on the border Of
that State should not be withdrawn. The
highest officer in the army. experienced
in Indian affairs, reports the situation in
The territory, and says that the cause Of
Irritation is the presence Of the cattle
men. A section of the country containing
4.250,0 C0 acres YVES set apart for the In
dams. Only One.tenth-400, 600 acres-is
left. They are crowded in agencies. Some
vi Ills isAuQ tuhl nave uttU HtCuiEu W ilA
the consent of the Indians. II is appa-
rent to me, as it is to you, that this state
OF affairs cannot continue.
TWO INTERESTS IN CONFLICT.
"Two interests,are in conflict. Which
shalt give wayY On one side we have
public peace, public security and safety
OF lives. On the other side are your in
terests. The former, gentlemen, must be
considered, though private interests suffer.
The question Of putting of this removal
until next spring is inadmissible. The
order cannot be modified. ] want to see
some diligence in complying with the
order. Twelve dayshave passed. Precious
time is lost. An effort was made after
the order was issued TO secure an extern
sion OF time. A dispatch was sent saying
in most positive terms that the order
would not be modified. There you are
after twelve days have passed.
THE ONLY CHANCE FOR INDULGENCE.
81 any indulgence is shown it must be
on an appeal in specific cases, VITA evil
denee that an effort has been made TO
comply with the order. Ii your interests
led you out of the Territory instead Of in,
j cannot help but think that you would
ind some way out in the specified time.
] wish you would cooperate, and take
hold and try 10 get the cattle of. No ar
gument viii induce me to change what has
been done. Some loss and Inconvenience
will no doubt follow, but there is an inter-
est greater than yours which must re-
ceive attention" The delegation upon
the conclusion of the Presidents reply,
left the executive mansion.
COLD COMFORT,
"There is cold comfort in his ORDER"
said one OF the most prominent cattle
men, as he walked through the White
House grounds 20 the street.
a 4 a
replied another.
A majority of the delegation started for
home tonight. They are unanimous in
the expression that the cattle cannot be
moved within the forty days limit without
great pecuniary loss.