St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1885-11-21


II should suppose that after you have
testified so positively as to minor things
that you would know whether or not you
were in the houses that night"
Il will say positively that 1 was not
there after l or half past on that day."
How is it you seem to be so positive as
to your whereabouts on the evening of Sept.
5, 1884, also May %. 1885. and June 10,
1885, when you cannot, with equal posi-
tiveness, state when you notified these
Women" r.
Il only know that it was Sept. from
the fact that it was Friday, which pre-
ceded the session Of the sovereign grand
lodge, and Smith and myself went away to
meet the delegates"
When did you look up the date?"
Last fall. I'm glad you reminded me.
That's matter l want to speak Of"
DO you remember from that time to this
that it was Sept. s."
No. sir. remember by looking at the
almanac"
DO you remember where you were in
Augusta"
Aug. II was the day 1 went to St.
Paul"
''How do you fix the date?"
Because l looked through the papers
and saw that the state fair privileges were
sold on that day."
How do you fix Aug ~"
by the fact that the Dental association
met on Aug. T."
when was the first time that you ever
heard that Annie Watson claimed to have
paid money!"
Last fall"
"What time?"
''Some little time before the election"
''Who told you?"
IT WAS JUDGE DoNAHUE.E
'My recollection is that Donahue told
me-"
From how many sources did you hear
it?n
Il heard from several sources"
''Have YOU ever had conversation with
her touching the matter?"
Il have"
when was that?"
Last fall. Now wish to say in connec-
ton with that, that about the time certain
speech was made charging that certain
city official had been paid money. it was
about that time that L heard that Annie
Watson paid me $50 She was away at the
time. When she returned went to her and
she admitted that she had remarked it to
court official, and l asked her how she came
to say it, and she replied that she supposed
the clerk was joking and that she was jok-
ing. At the time l asked the mayor to call
for the evidence which it was claimed he
could have. He was told he could only
have it privately, and having seen Annie
Watson l believed it would place him in
ridiculous position, and l asked the mayor
that he accept the private terms. Until
now, however, never heard that there was
any book account. Last spring told Annie
Watson thought the mayor would reduce
the number of houses, and, if SO, she would
have to close up. My impression is that it
was about the first Of April. In looking
court records presented the other day, 1
found that they were incomplete and incor-
rect so far as one fine paid by Carrie Moore
is concerned. The fine she testified to hav-
ing paid OIL the 23d is not noted There are
number of
ERRORS IN THE BOOKS. e'-z.--=-
On a number of occasions my record
books show what parties paid fines and the
number of the houses" IA
when did you first learn that Carrie
Moore paid you money!"
81 never heard Of it until she stated it
here"
Aid. SlY-Mr. Stevens has sgniied his
willingness to testify as to the conversation
he had in the office.
THE substance of it was that he saw
Annie Watson, man and girl with the
books, and that it was intima.ed to him
subsequently by the man in his saloon that
there was something wrong with the
books"
This was followed by discussion regard
ing the alleged inaccuracy of the municipal
court records in which Aid. Sly remarked
that the fact that there was a variance be-
tween Stevens books and the records, was
no reliable indication that the records were
wrong.
Stevens-I will state that Carrie Moore
swore that she paid fine from $50 on Feb.
%, and that the records do not snow that
fine was paid from that house on that date.
Mr.. Stevens then stated that he would
rest with the understanding that he should
call afterwards, to corrObOrate certain teSti
meny. Detective Gleason and Mr.. Rinehart.
Aid. sly will say in regard to one
witness which Stevens has subp9naed. that
a gentleman came to my office to-day and
said that she had been SubpRnaed by Ste
yens and that she said that she should not
come up. whereupon she was told that if
she did not come an officer would be sent
for her. | told him to have her come up If
she was requested, and l explained that
there was no way Of compelling her to
come.
Stevens-Then Mr.. Sly you will admit
that there could be no intimidation.
SLY THOUGHT IT WAS INTIMIDATION.
IT should say it looked much like intimi-
dation," promptly retorted Mr.. Sly. III
we cannot compel them to come why should
threat be made?"
Il thought that was your idea OF the
word" responded Mr.. Stevens.
Mr.. Stevens explained that he wanted
Gleason to testify about an interview
with MIR. Tanner regarding the item in the
GLOBE to the effect that Tanner had paid
Tor police protection. Il want to show
that he said he had never paid a cent" said
Stevens, and he then went on to tell the
language OF the conversation and the def
milton of the words directly or indirectly"
when Iintimated that witnesses had been
bulldoZed in an adjoining room, made the
statement with the utmost good faith.
expected to show by the witness before YOU
this afternoon that she had been bulldozed.
but she testified differently from what / ex-
pected. and l have no reason to suppose
that the other witness was treated differ
emily, therefore wish to Withdraw the allie
CATION Internationally
Aid. SIv-I have no objection personally