The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1885-02-03
Afternoon Session.

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sign. and have the coat of arms Of the State APP
propriately inserted thereon, that n State flag
may be sent to the committee of arrangements
on the dedication of the Washington monument
on the 2lst day of this month He said that res
olution seemed to be little broad; there ought
to be price fixed. and not leave the cost en-
tirely with the librarian. Mr.. Willard moved to
fix the cost at $780,
Mr. Fowler-Five hundred dollarsis too much.
Lieutenant governor Manson dent think 1t
will cost 500.
Mr. Fowler moved to amend the amendment
by providing the cost shall not exceed $3.50.
Mr.. Faulkner-We have a very economical
little lady for State Librarian, and think We
had better leave that matter with her. She will
get it up in good taste and not break up the State
either. Mr.. Willard withdrew his motion. The
resolution was coneurred in.
The Lieutenant governor announced special
order, being Mr.. Macy's court reporters bill
rs CAT, on the second reading with a pending
amendment. proposed by Mr. NJ, providing that
the reporter shall receive his pay from the par
ties htigant and not from the county, as the law
now is.
Mr. McCullough-The present law provides
that short hand reporter may be appointed
either by the judge agreement OF parties.
1t also provides that the reporter shall be paid,
not to exceed $40 per day, out of the county
treasury. The amendment provides that the
Judge, if he deems it necessary. shall appoint the
reporter, but ne shall not be paid over 81 day.
Mr.. Willard-My opinion is that this is prac-
tically the creation of a new officer. l cannot
see it in any other way. In actual practice we
never find the judge of his own motion, appoint
ing short hand reporter.
Mr.. Magee-The most economical way is to
try cases with q short hand reporter.
Mr.. Willard guarantee that when it comes
| to practical operations under this bill. when
| ever motion is made by reputable attorney s
for short hand reporter, he viii be appointed
The object of the bill, as originally introduced
evidently was to take this burden from the coun-
| tv treasury, but the Judiciary committee. in
amending the bill, have struck out that idea.
| The original feature ought to prevail. The
| smendment was rejected.
On motion by Mr.. Sellers the per diem of
| short hand reporters was reduced to So. The
bill was ordered eDgrossed.
TIE TEMPORARY LOAN.
The Lieutenant governor announced the spe
cal order for 3 o'clock, as Mr.. Magees bill Is.
1861 to provide for temporary loan of 5000, 600.
the question being on amendments reported
| by the finance committee.
| Mr.. Fowler moved to amend by striking out
the first section after the enacting clause, which
states the loan is made necessary by apropria-
! tions made by the General Assembly. No bills
| have yet been passed making extraordinary ex-
| penses, and until that has been done he thought
| provision of the kind proposed iniudicIous.
| There is already fund which might be con-
sidered contingent fund, that is yielding $685.
| 600 or $40, 600 a year, known as the permanent
| endowment fund of the State University. The
Legislature ought not to provide for any thing of
| this kind unless there is some demand made for
| it; aud it seems there is none yet. 1.-THE next
amendment" he said, that propose, is to strike
! out the word temporary don't understand
that all our bonds are temporary. If these bonds
| are funded at ell. there Is no reason why the
| permanent bonds should not be funded as we'll
| as the temporary bonds. 1t seems to the it
should be optional with the State officers to fund
| any bonds when they can do so at lower rate
| of interest"
nv.
| bill thorough consideration and it reported
| hack as a matter Of absolute necessity at this
| time After this Legislature adjourus there can
| be no provision made for meeting the expenses
of the State until 1887. This Senate, by almost
| a unanimous vote less than q week ago. passed
bill appropriating 1868 600 for building these
| additional hospitals for the insane. You have
| got either to increase the levy-and that won't
reach IT the first year-or you will have to let
the State officers provide for this expenditure by
| a temporary loan, or leave the Treasury without
money to run the government until the Legsla-
| ture meets again. AS to the second amendment,
| TO strike out the word temporary that evidently
was proposed under misrepresentation don't
| think any senator would desire TO reduce the
| school fund loan. We don't want to force the
State to borrow money, but we will have to do
| something to provide for the extraordinary ex-
penses which we believe both branches OF this
General Assembly are in favor Of.
| Mr.. Magee-I supposed this question had been
| so thoroughly discussed last week that it would
not DO necessary to GO over the same ground
again. This is simply question of business.
We have loan costing us per cent. interest)
amounting in round numbers to 500, 900, known
as q temporary loan. Under the provisions of
that bill we can refund that loan at an expense
of 81 per cent Since ! came to the Senate
chamber to day received note from gentle
man, who does not care to have his name men
toned, bat man who can carry out any prop
osition he makes, stating that if this bill is
| amended SO as to make the bonds 10 20 bonds, he
will take the entire loan at 81 per cent SO -here
| is no doubt hut that the State officers can make
a contract for 81 per cent There was not dis
senting voice as to the business sagacity of this
| bill We ought to have n law that at any
| and at all times tho State officers refund a
| debt if it can be done 80 az TO save the peo-
PIES money. Under this hill in the next
| two years the State can save SIG 900
| The senator from Owen MR. Fowlerl says the
| bill making the appropriation for three insane
| asylums has not yet become a law. Grant all
| that. There would be no harm in passing this
| bill because it is prudential measure. All the
money required To carry On these buildings. and
| to do anything necessary for the State. will be
on hand with Our increased amount of taxation.
We have an expense of $35, 600 TO rebuild the
Women's Department at the insane asylum,
which was damaged by fire the other day. Then
there will be appropriation for Purdue Uni
versity covering several years; there Will be an
appropriation for the State University, on ac-
eountNof FIRE there; and the State will require
more money than we can raise by levy for the
present year, because the new assessment will
not be returned until 1886. We viii have about
one hundred millions Of taxables. The senator
from Owen says that only about 60 per cent. of
! mistaken.
Mr.. Fowler get my information from the
Auditor of State.
MIR Magee-I know that is not so--able as
| occupied the posltion--I know that there Is not
one county in the State bat what pays more than
60 per cent Ninety eight is about what we
! average The Auditor must be mistaken If he