New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-12-18
MOPPISOy APPIBENILY AHEAD.
HOUSE MEMBERS FAvoRlNG REVISION.
rxPEclIyG TO REACH 4 FINAL VOTE T9-DAf-MA'
RANDALLS SPEECH
-nY rrIEGR IrI To TIE TaIYUSE.

RANDALES SPEECH.
-nY TELEGRAPH To TIE TaIDrN&l
WAsHINGToN Dec. 1.-THE debate on the
rules IN the House practically was closed TO- u"S'
| minute speeches can be made tomorrow Ill oNo'ihN
/ amendments but that is the longest time th"V any
/ member can occupy. Many amendments nave oeehseh'
I'D to the Speakers desk and the speaking ana VOTING Oh
these probably will occupy all day tomorrow athoush
there is prospect OF reaching final vote Mt night Ac
| cordng to all present indications tie amendments
reported by the Committee on Rules Will be adopeu as
/ they stand. The only hope that Mr. Randall mas oi
changing the committees report is III regard 10 oS
| tributing the appropriation bills. There are many
members who do not favor that proposit'ou
but who will support the remainder Of the committees
report 1t Is doubtful If they numerous enough 10
defeat even that part OF the report MI hauual mas
been seeking strengthen himself by Circulating INC
story that the Republicans have sinister purpose III
supporting the proposition for change. In his opinion
they seek to hurt the Democratic party Ihere Is 10
truth in it, Mr.. Randall perhaps, proportonatey mas
more supporters on the Republican side than OH the
Democratic. He has really weakened himself Win Hls
party by trying make out that the motive OF he pro-
moments is to weaken him and thereby llJure MS parry
His speech to-day that of a lawyer peaolhg lol
sympathy rather than that OF statesman "lPe"n ~
reason. , .
The best speech made on Mr. Randas sideyet was tha
delivered to day by Mr. Long, Of Massachusetts, But
he did not support Mr.. Randalrs minority report nc
favored every proposition made by the committee on
Rules except the one to distribute the Appropriation
bills Under the present system, he said there were
only three classcs of bills which could past hrt tho'e
that were so insignificant that one objected to them
second, those of such overwhelming Importance
as 10 command q two-thirls vote to suspend the
rules and third, those reported as rGcrs on appr"P"
ton hills more complete system OF how not to do 1t,
in his opinion, could hardly lie devised He iaNoreu
giving ever committee right to present business so
that a majority could decide what should be taken up
the absolute prohibition of any riders on Appropriation
bills and requirement that they should all be reported
IN short by February and in long sessions py
March l. lie did not favor the distribution OF 'he
appropriation bills among varlons committees now
ever as that would the system of first making
appropriations and then finding a way to make the
revenues correspond whereas the expenditures shouu
be made to correspond with the revenues.
Mr. McAlIu, OF Tennessee. also opposed the diatr'
button of the appropriation bills, did Mr. McAdoo OF
New-Jersey who pretended to regard the matter Us al
attack OF his friend Randall
MI Kelley of Pennsylvania, showed concusively the
evil effects that had followed the Holman amendment
which permitted riders on appropriation bills Tic
pointed ont as did other speakers, that appropriation
bills under the ola not the result even oil the
deliberatlon OF the fifteen members OF Tho Appropriations
Committee each bill was tne work OF Suo-commi'-
tee OF three Patience and long experience had taught
him the folly Of such method Of legislation.
MI Lore OF Delaware, pointed ont that legislative
Nr. Hatch, OF Missouri. ucd figures to snow that pr
Randal's statements concerning The Agricultural Dill
william Waiter Phelps. Of New-Jcrscy. opp'sei tho
majority report the ground that IL would troy all
and put the Nation on the Nish roam 10 ''N"
ruptcy.
When Mr.. Randall 10 speak the seats were soon
filed ana the House was all attention. In q tp.utrd
manner he said that it was him surprising that incn
should be as-acd Tor saving the public money. 40
douut he had with She pet measures OF mem
hers IN order provide for the Government and prevent
an extra session OF Congress, which hc Thought "ond
have brought great harm upon MS parry II
had come TO be the fashion 10 bRne the
Appropriations COMMITTEE Tor ever '4'H-' Wv ]" w.
nr,t session of the last Congress % had occupied Only
one-slxth Of the ume-much les tn'n lne way 'hI
Means Committee, Win ls'IeFcING VIZ SI,,Ni- U
tie River and Harbor hi ne sad That there was no a
tnorty in the Constitution for much that contained
He reviewed his record since tur war am Ir 't nD'
think that D. justified assault upon H The real issue
he said was the dangerous proposition 1" maze lhr 0r
the appropriations comforts 10 'hc revenues.
Nj Morrison saiG that III cratuons "s-nlnr'ion
that any finding idui "IIA Inc Appropriations
CSIr RgrSovrs NJ Michigan close, the debate by show
ne that the Agricultural and other bills had necessarily
Increased with growth OF the country aud no, ca'r
that a change would Increase appropriations; ,
The voting on amendments was l.'h p'sln' 4"'
instance far as tho voting proceeded before me
j0urnmcnt. Nalona amendments "Hciel T par
Springer 20 ahOsh useless committees were voice down
lie said that tncre were fifteen committees which never
= h,.,c.s ono of these mad no, made a report
in eleven years far he could remember To save
the expense OF clerks and rooms ne wanted tut-c
aholiehed; but lis amendments were voted down.
There was laughter all over the House when lchncVn
Canal" Murphy moved for iur appointment OF COM
mittee exclusively on canals but IT voted down
Mr.. Bayne wanted a Committee on the Constitution 10
report amendments for TIE election OF po-ina.tcr',
Senators etc. but received only two or three votes
Mr.. Payne, OF New York. said that he was member
Of the Committee Oh the Revision OF Laws which nc'cr
had any business lie wanted its powers enlarged 30
that IL might he able to report bill to give s President
the right to veto items in appropriation bills The pro-
position voted down.
The proposition TO distribute tho appropriation blNs
VIII be reached tomorrow aui that Will furnish the FIRST
test vote should the final vote be reached then 70 j.
probable that the members VIII nearly all 90 home on
Saturday The recess adjournment Will take place on
Tuesday. II is not probable now that any bills VIII Toe
introduced until after The recess.
Mr. Carlisle saws sal he ha. not been able 70 10 much
toward forming the committees and - Is NOT probable
that they Will be announced before the adJournment