The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1885-09-14
THE TEXAS TELEGRAMS.
LUClUS WHITE INTERVIEWED,
Funeral OF j. III. kampmaan, tho San
Antonio millionaire - Prohibition
Laid to Rest in Cooke County.
Death of Postmaster Kill
gore OF Longvlew.
Interview With Lucius A. White

sauCiuS WnttS.
WACO, Sept. 13.--[Special.l -"very
glad to SEQ you, but there are some
terrible MunchSusons among your
tribe-the st. Louis reporters, for ex-
ample. One follow there wrote up u
long interview with me and | HADN'T
said word to him." This was the
greeting Luoius A. White, of Brazilian
counterfeiting fame, gave THE HER
AID correspondent this afternoon.
White had arrived at noon, in charge
OF City Jai'er Siegmund, of ST. Louis,
although deputy United States mar
shal was along 20 keep sn eye on the
prisoner. He was GrlVen immediately
10 the Waco jail, and stood behind tho
bars as he talked to THE HERALD
correspondent.
A pleasant faced man is White, and
his language evinces Intelligence
and education. Ho speaks with ease
and grace. He looked wesried and
travel-stained, as the effect Of his
journey from ST. Louis, but talked
pleasantly. In another part OF the
Jail, not 10 feet distant, was
his brother, Joseph White, but tho
two could not sec each other. Lucius
White is 81 years of age, 20 years the
Junior of his brother Joseph. He says
he was born and raised in Waller
county, Texas, until IA years old, " on
he sailed with his brother Joseph for
Brazil. There be lived for Is years,
and until one year ago. There no met
and married his wife, s FlOrid,an by
birth, whose parents had emigrated 20
Dom Pedro's empire. There the three
little children We're born, who call him
tather. The mans eyes moistened as
no spoke OF his wife and children.
He said: "Baiore leaving ST. Louis
l photographed TO my vito, who lives
near Whitney, that / would be in
Waco Sunday. | am expecting her
with Impotence, for know she VIII
come, Ioould not bear to 20 back 10
st. Louis without seeing her. | think
they will start ma back tomorrow
evening, if my testimony is concluded
by that time"
And then he spoke of the great C ase
tho scheme TO put out so much spu.
rioua money upon the unsuspecting
Brazilians. "Yes, read Mr.. Wiiler's
testimony rs he delivered 1t in Waco
yesterday, III the HERALD this morn
ing. 1t is correct. | did all the con-
tracing for the labels, and was the
only one knew III tho contract. There
were others, you ask? Well, of course
Who they We're will como out in due
time. What they purposed doing with
tho labels | can't say. i supposed they
were going to 90 put on cigar boxes
and the cigars to be sold ia Brazil"
eyes, they do look somewhat like
the milreis o. Brazil, but 20 soy thai
they are an accurate depletion is no
true. Any intelligent Brazilian would
detect the fraud IL it were attempted
to pass enc OF these labels upon him as
agenuine milgeis note. And the man
(Brazilian) 30 aiupid 8, not 20 be able
to detect IL would hardly DO o man WHIT
would trade to the amount OF 200 mil
reia, and the labels are All OF that dc.
nomination"
"How dc you think you Will CONT
Out?" asked the reporter. White hcsi
tated moment and said:
81 believe / vii, be convicted and I'm
prlsoned. lis mistake that | have
been promiseO immunity TO tell what
knew about this thing. have already
told United Ststas Attorney Bliss, :
st. Louis, MI know, viii tell her,
tomorrow ell l know. But Bis
didn't promise me humanity, and no
body hero promised SO will DO triet
at st. Louis, on November 10, before
Judge Treat. shgll, no doubt, be con
victed."
"Ican't say that will plead guilty
that depends on the wording Of the in
dictment. Tho grand jury may fine
against mo. Under certain ciroum
stances, though, would plead guilty
not that am guilty, mind you, dom
admit that; but as things. looks
couldn't hope to convince judge or jur.
OF my Innocence"
"And so you have heard will turn
States evidence to go, my liberty an,
leave the others in the luTch
AS / understand 1t, when
man turns States evidence
is ON a promise OF immunity, for him
told you haven't been promised any
thing. II is true Mr.. Bliss, al s.
Louis, told nae It would no better &
tell him all | Nnew; that my punish
mont would thereby probably b
lighter, but no never once told mo tina
II ] would give away the gang an,
help convict them / should go frot
No, / expect to be- punished IL any
body Is punished. | shall tell all
know and take the chances"
To another question no answered
"Wall, read IN . st. Louis paper tha
was nc outs with my brother JOSEPH
and ready 10 give him away. preie
not to talk about my brother, IL ma
be true we hnvo had our quRirel'
We have hsd them all through HE
but still he "a my brother, and yoI
know blood IS thicker than waiO
The upshct Of the whole thing ~
have been led into q bad box and
must stay there. | did all the conduct
ing. | was kent IN tho front sill IN
time, and here / am. Tomorrow, 40
not till then, can | talk any mor
about that, save TO say thatWithor'
testimony, publiahei Ia THE BsRAI
this morning, is correct. Aud don
DO too certain 1 have como horo to Civ
anybody away Aud thus ended III
interview.
White IL very superior man, as
language and manners, to his brotnt
Joseph. Tho latter sits. IN his cell
dumb ss sn oyster. Luoims white WI
testify tomorrow before United stat,
Commissioners Fink, aud then be n
turredt TO st. Louis. Despite his ave
aticns 20 the contrary, II IL believed
will give the whole thing away
hopes of getting clenr himself. He
young yet, has wife and three lit
children, and liberty would be swe
to him. IL ~ possible, though, thi
tho government has testimony enoup
10 convict tb's yaug without his hel
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Bryan.
BRYAN, S,ps. 13.-ISpecial.l -Whi
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