The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1885-12-14
The Premier Is Willing to Grant Liberal
Measure of Self-Government to Ireland
but Not All that Parnell Asks.
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Tenement-HOuse at Plymouth.
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SALISBURY's INTENTIONS.
He Is Willing to Grant a Broad Measure Q
Self-Government to Ireland.

He Is Willing to Grant q Broad Measure Of
Self-Government to Ireland.
Cable Special.
Your correspondent to-day sought an inter-
view with the Marquis of Salisbury for the pur
pose of obtaining from the Tory Premier an
official statement Of the intentions of the gov
ernment concerning Mr.. Parnells boast that 1t
must deal with the Irish party on the latters
own terms, or be thrown from power. Lord
Salisbury is far more difficult to interview than
even Mr. Gladstone, and has never in single
instance since his accession to power permitted
the use of his name as authority for any views
presented as newspaper matter. But he is evi-
IDENTIFY very much concerned about the present
powerful status Of the Nationalist party, and
especially about the tremendous influence which
Parnells success is exerting in the United States.
Your correspondent was, therefore, permitted to
publish the following dialogue as containing the
opinions of leading member of the Cabinet
and as "embodying the views of majority of
Lord Salsburys colleagues on the present polit-
ical situation"
us the present government prepared to accede
to the Parnellite demands for home rule for Ire
land, or will it resist those demandsP
1T is firmly believed that Lord Salisbury is
willing to grant very broad measure of local
saf-government to Ireland"
"How do the Premier's Ministers stand on the
question:"
"A majority of Lord Salisbury's colleagues
agree with him perfectly on the whole question"
What is the nature of the measure of local
self government which the majority of the Cabi-
are willing to grant to Irelandw
Such measure as would be tatamount to a
complete control of purely Irish matters"
"What subjects of legislation would be in
cluded in the terms purely Irish matters7'"
'Such matters as docks, local rates, county
boards and affairs of that class"
would such a concession be broad enough to
be acceptable to the Nationalsts2"
1.-THE measure Of local seif-government which
Lord Salisbury is willing to concede to Ireland
is, perhaps, not so broad as that for which Mr..
Parnell secured the unity of the Irish party, but
it is the widest which her Majesty's government
can concede We cannot 60 beyond what have
outlined"
That programme falls far short of the one
demanded by Mr.. T. P. OConnor on behalf of
ParnellP'
''Yes it does. That demands for Ireland an
autonomy like that Of Canada-the Irish mem
bers not to sit in the imperial Parliament, the
people of Ireland not to contribute toward the
expenses of the imperial government, nor to
share in the payment Of the British national
debt. No English government could possibly
yield to such demands"
They will, then, be rejected by Lord Sails
buryl"
Most decidedly. The present government
will not for one moment acquiesce in such
scheme"
"Whyf"
'It would be giving to Ireland separate fiscal
system It would be relieving Ireland of her
share of the responsibility for the national debt
1t would, in fact be making of Ireland sepa
rate kingdom. The idea is preposterous"
'How far is Lord Salisbury willing to 60 to-
ward giving Ireland freedom from imperial po-
lice supervisionR"
Lord Salisbury's Ministers would absolutely
refuse to give to the local bodies of Ireland con-
troll of the police"
For what reasonW
Because such concession would virtually
hand the landlords of Ireland and their property
over to the absolute domination of the National
League"
"Do the Ministry calculate that the govern
ment will be supported in these refusals by any
large part of the opposition2"
IA majority of the Ministers believe that the
bulk of the Liberals, meaning thereby Mr..
Gladstone's partlsans, share the feelings OF the
Conservatives opposing the League demands for
a surrender of the imperial control in Irish
affairs"
How far does Lord Salisbury believe that
Mr.. Gladstone's party would 60 in this opposi-
tions"
"The maio. ity of the Cabinet believe that the
Liberals would assist the Conservatives in op-
posing the Parnellite demands"
us it meant by this statement to foreshadow
coalition of the Conservatives and Liberals on
irish queStonSf
IA coalition of the Liberals with the Copser-
vatives is possible if it should be necessary to
resist the loss of the present proper imperial con-
troll in Irish affairs. The coalition would be
almost certain to follow any fusion between the
Radicals and Nationalists in the interest of the
home-rule scheme as outlined by the Leagues
spokesman"
May l state that Lord Salisbury calculates
on Liberal Conservative coalitonp
Lord Salisbury relies on such coalition in
the event of a combination between the Nation
alists and Radicals for the purposes l have men
toned"
How would the country regard such a coali-
tiong'
English public opinion would demand the
coalition The Conservative position as to Irish
local rights is as broad any that British states
men dare advocate We recognize the existing
| evils in Ireland, and are properly anxious to
remedy or eradicate them. But we draw the
line at the disruption of the empire"
MAY state, therefore, that the present gov
ernment haye no intention of resignine2"
Lord Salisbury is we'll assured that the Par
nelites will not be able to command in Parlia-
ment, on any extreme measure of Irish home
rule, more than a small fraction of the Liberal
vote. 1t would, therefore. be absurd for the
Conservative government to resign Office They
will not reinqush the administration of affairs
| until they are expelled from Office"
JOSEPH CHAMBERLAIN.