New-York tribune., 1885-03-28
THE EXAMINATION OF THE GENERAL.
NOTHING SAID To HIM ABOUT CoNTRACTs-EyERY.

THING LOST BY THE FAILURE.
twas agreed between counsel for the Govern
aud for the defendant that the testimony OF tho
witness be taken subject to objections to be stated at the
reading thereof in court upon the trial
At the in tance aud by agreement Of counsel for both
parties the administering of the oath TO the witness
waived the deposition to be taken and read with the
same effect as though the oath administered.
General Ulysses s. Grant testified as follows upon ex-
amisation by counsel for the defendant:
BY Mr. Clarke; Q.-You a partner in the firm Of
Grant Ward A.-Yes sir: am informed that was
at the time the failure took place.
Q.-You became member of that firm on OF about
November l, 1ss0l Al don't remember suppose so
II the books say Inever knew that was anything
else than special partner clear to the end.
Q-At about that time you paid in $4,000 to tho
him A-Yes paid In $4,000 first aud then after.
ward $4,000 more. don't remember the dates.
Q-And the second $50 000 shortly after the rsti
Ayes, sir.
Qso that in all you actually paid in 100000 Al
paid In 100000.
On the first of May 1884 what did you understand
you were worth; about what Al supposed I was
worth well nigh to $l,00o,oo0.
Q-when did you first become acquainted with Jane
d. Fishi A-well don't know whether knew him
before not have recollection.
had no suspicion OF any rascaty and therefore there
was nothing to conhne my mind to any such dates.
Q-Do you remember upon whose introduction you be-
came acquainted with hint Al suppose it by my
son and Mr.. Ward I suppose IL you should so clear
back that It my who got acquainted with Mr..
Ferdinand Ward through Mr. Wards brother and that
the acquaintance led on to in that way. The man
was supposed, far ever knew to be reputable
banker until after the failure and it not astonishing
that person SHOULD make his acquaintance.
Q.-Do you remember receiving letter from Mr. James
ID. Fish about July @, 1882 A-The one that was
published the one of which photographs were pub
lshedi
o-No think not; but do you remember receiving
auy letter on that date Al had dim recol-
lection after the failure OF receiving letter from Mr.
Fish while living at Long Branch so 1t might have
been about that time went down there about the mid
die of June.
o-Have you that letter in your possession now A..
No, sir
o-Do you know what became ofitf A.-No, sir, do
not. suppose Mr. Ward took very good pains that I
should not have Idon't suppose that ever saw tho
one that was published.
O-Haye you any recollection In relation to itf Al
have recollection of receiving the letter ana stting
down and writing an at and the substance
OF nv answer was had good deal to do that day.
and that t was doubtful when should be able TO go to
see him; that IL could would, but that believed tho
matters that his firm were engaged In were all right
Something like that.
o-Haven't you any recollection Of what has become
OF that letter Of Mr.. Fish A.-No sir have not; be.
cause the one that was published do not believe was
that letter.
Dwell them to the best OF your recollection and
knowledge the letter that received at that
time in your Al know 1t is not for hayo
searched everywhere for 1t.
o-Haye you been In the habit OF preserving your
letersi A-No, err have been In the habit OF
preserving private letters and II TO try suppose
should make poor record. My business In HE has
such somebody else has always taken care OF
letters that had to be saved and the only way thatI
have now Of preserving letter that wish to preserve
until do something with it is to put in my side coat
poeket or nut IL n drawer where write. and then
when want to look letter 1t Is about the last one
find.
o-You have searched for letter OF that date, or
about that date without being able to find itf Al
have yes sir have gone all the letters that hnd
In the desk
o-statc your best recollection as to whether that let
ter was destroyed Al have no recollection about IL
was In hopes that had not been destroyed, and there
fore have looked for It,
Q-Is the letter now shown you In your handwriting
and written by youi A. examining the letter)-Yess
sir; unquestionaby.
THE letter is marked for Identification Al
Q-This letter which you have just identified 10 dated
July g. 1882. and addressed 70 NJ Fish. and sass'