The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1885-10-04
DISESTABLISHMENT.
Church and State in the
United Kingdom.
REV. TALMAGE IN IRELAND
The Effects Of Parnellism on INC
Landlords and Tenants OF the
Ould Sod.
BELFAST, September 4, 1885.


establishment of State Church. or re-
legion. The Church of England is es-
tablished by law and there IS conse-
quently a union Of church and state.
Even in staid and solid old England the
desire for change is experienced. It's
little singular that in the day OF
British decline there should arise a de-
sire for the disestablishment OF faith |
made national by legislative enact
ment. OF all countries in the world the
United States is claimed to be that
which offers the greatest religious I'D
erty. England only, believe, has
state religion, and yet the world over
there is not another place where as
great freedom or tolerance in religious
affairs exists. The union OF church
and state, that bugbear which seems to
ne unsettIing the intestines of so many
Young calcium lights IN Utah, has not
been of any great detriment to Eng
land. AS a matter of history, there has
never been a time when the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
made such rapid strides in the competl-
ton of nations as i'll this very period
when church and state were united, the
warnings and croakings of embryo In
gersolls and Paines and Voltaires to the
contrary Notwithstanding. The men of
to-day point to the existing depression
in England as the unquestioned out
growth of a union of>church and state.
The same reasoning will force the con
cIusion that all the prosperity of many
wears is attributable to that very union
of Church and State, because that
union did exist during the prosperity.
! There is no sense whatever In such
shallow, assumptions. Ii there is any
advantage, 1t is in the union. Will any
of the youthful Grattans, Burkes:
Websters, WashingtOns, or Lincolns OF
Utah kindly explain if. under any other
conditions than the union of Church
and State which they allege exists in
Utah, such marvellous progress could or
would have been made IN thirty-eight
years? Politics and the profession OF
Stealing are alike in one respect-both
are at first a means TO an end, but IN
time they become the end and the
means combined. There is no account
ing for the tactics of young man with
an nordlnate ambition for pnlitica
notoriety, and who is afflicted with tina
nau.eating and emaciated idea that tt
be free and to be thinker" he mus
be disguised with religion and blat GU
senseless and harmless utterance!
against it. If these young men Were
the students of history they profess tt
be, if they had even ghost of thes
statesmenliGe qualities for which the.
admire themselves, they would find tina
1900 wears has neither shaken nor dim
med the power of true religion; and /
is therefore likely to withstand tn
gigantic assaults which otfice-seekers
even though would be-modern saviors
NAV make against it. Under uniOr
of Church and State England becam
the most powerful nation on the earth
and under that union the greatest re
Iigious tolerance is found to-day. L
NAV he said she does not allow rOly
pamv That statement is untrue, bu
Sdmitting that she did not, it amount
tn nothing. Both Liberal and yOun
Democrat in Utah, from Snowdro
Dickson, down to the statesmen of moo
ern times as found in the ranks of tn
"Y. D." declare it to be the union
Church and State, and not polygamy
that is the great and crying and grow
ing and blighting evil Of Gtan' an
know" By t1e way. would it not b
we'll to ascertain if the Mormons &C
NIT there is a union of Church and Stat
in:AUtah2 And providing such be tn
case. would it not be well to find OF
where there is a law that covers 1t
WHY not apply the law if it is such
crime? But to return. IL the youn
democrats are right, then, there mu
he some frighlful fools in high places
the limited Kingdom. Not few prom
inent men here are pronounced in the
onposition TO the proposition to sepa
ate Church and State. They must be az
full tvrants; guilty Of every species
fraud and duplicitv, and downing
rascals; while the people are fools, SER
IL slaves, foreigners, etc, etc, Tor suom
ting. These declarations Will NIL WI
iOv inexpressible the hearts OF tho
free horn Englishmen VINO sing WI
IN IIusty lungs, "Britons never, never W
III he slaves" Yet all the while they a
~ sIayes-such is the reasoning of You
Ne Democrats and that other thing, call
20 Liberal, but which, from its followir
resembles the subject of the curse viii
0m is found in the Bible and reads thu
Because thou hast done this, thou
cursed above all cattle, and above eve
beast of the field; and upon thy be
nes shalt thou go and dust shall thou eat
TTs. the DAYS of thy life" But have
for mention the boss fool. He is the Att
ney-General of the Isle of Man, and
a speech recently delivered he actua
had the assinine audacity to decl
=, that he could conceive of no grea
H. calamity Detailing Great Britain tt
the separation of Church and Sta
As only young Democrat can do
tice to such an awful ass, give il
- him and resign in his favor.
The Rev. DR.. Dewitt Talmage
~ been here. The intimate knowles
I. which newspapers here possess of ne
= papers in America is shown by the I
that they give the latter credit for "a
ing Talmage on the same foe ting "
Henry Ward Beecher. In point
J. notoriety, Talmage is probably secC
IS' only to Beecher in the United Sta
but it is only in notoriety. One
ouainted with American daily, weel