The Waco daily examiner. [volume] (Waco, Tex.) 187?-1888, 1885-09-15
LUCIUS TALKS,
And Says it was Not Him,
But His Brother 10.
Who Did II.
LuCius Makes all the Contracts
About Having the sO-CaIled
Labels Printed, and
Joseph Furnishes the where
with for the work and they
Were to Divide the doodle.

In the case of Joseph III. White, III
, alleged Brazilian counterfeiier, an
being sworn, White said: | resid
eight miles north oil Whitney, Hi
county Texas; have lived there over
! year; lived IN Brazil from Septcmbe
1866, to February 10Th, 1884; my bro
thcr and family lived there at sam
time; we went there together aud lief
nj same time; he went back In JUNE
1884; my business there was II govern
mont surveyor; my brother was
planter, think my brother eau boil
speak aud write tho Portuguese Ian
guagc; when he left he owned wv,
plantations of about 10000 coo,
trees Uhis is the way land is measure,
thcrcG do not know what these place
are worth; he was offered 10000 mil
rcis for one of them; think they ar
worth more money now; when land
ed IN New York went to hotel
near Castle Garden; stayed in New
York six or eight days; think he re.
manned there only few days longer
than |; | went from there to Florida
I my brother came 10 Texas; we arrived
in New York on March goth; CAN'T
direct from Florida to Whitney; doh'i
! know where my brother went: saw
| him in Austin u few days after; about
last of May, 1885 we had a convesa-
ton about copying Brazilian note
this was at his house; stayed all
night there; he said something TO ma
OF the money that could
be made ON labels in Brazil;
this was speaking of bottle labels;
eventually he spoke of the money he
could make on labels copied from
Brazilian bills; said there was good
money in sale OF these labels, finally
he said he would give me S500to have
labels made from II copy of the Bra
lillian bill; was to receive this for my
labor and time; am not sure that he
did produce the treasury note then,
but think he showed me great many
OF these bills; ! understood that my
expenses were TO be paid aud was to
get $500 clear: | started to st. Louis
on Dist day of June, 1885, TO have tins
work done; my brother, Joseph H.
White, delivered me the bill he wished
copied with instructions 10 see where
could make best arrangements MS to
copying bill, both back and face; he
wanted the writing of this label TO APP
pear on margin of label; made the
orders in ST. Louis; after arriving
there looked about awhile and applied
to first photographer whose sign
saw; this party could not do any work
for me and directed me to August
Cast ~ Co, 2l5, 2l7 and 2l9, Pine
street, st. Louis; there met Mr..
Whittier, manager OF the house, and
showed him this note aud told him |
wanted fac smile oil it printed;
made no trade that day; the following
Monday ! went to see him again; he
said he would make the face of bill
for $3.50: told him would consult my
friend (having reference to my brother
}. II. WhiteG think ! wrote and tele-
graphed both TO him on that day;
(witness was here handed Il telegram
giving cost of work, etc, to his brother
III Whitney,; this is telegram
| sent; received answer to this mes
sage, but not at once; after leaving st.
Louis went TO Chicago to see litho-
graphcrs there; saw two establish
mcnts there; one of them said they
were not i'll the countcrieiting BUSH
ness; was surprised nj this and so cx-
pressed myself; for Mr.. Whittier had
told me before, that Lac could do the
work without fear of the law. or
New York, TO Niagara Falls and thence
back TO Texas, aud returned to 81.
Louis, where | was informed by MIR.
Whittier that he could not make face
of this hill for less than $23s; Mr..
Whittier had his stenographer to take
down a proposition. (llerc defendant
objected to witness stating what this
proposition was, Ms IL WAS taken in
writing and the memoranda would
be best evidencc) Objection over
rued).
This portion of the evidence MS to
tn. proposition and acceptance OF
same at S238; after leaving, seen his
brother Joseph; was exactly corrob-
crative OF Whittlcr's testimony.
then went to New Orleans to see II
| could have the back of the bill
printed; went to house called Prac.
iical photographer; here | was told
could have 5000 impressions of thu
backs of the treasury note for $3.50
suid they would be facsimile %
back OF note; ordered them printed
| Then | went back to st. Louis ant
gave Mr.. Whittier the bill aud the or
der to print 5000 labels, like face u
note; paid 800 down on account
Joseph IL. White gave me the none!
Tor that purpose; gave instructions q
how labels should be made (exhibit
landed witncss), my instruction rs Il
reading matter to be placed on bill wa
necessary TO have II placed on niargli
of these impressions advised IN
brother fully rs To the arrangement
made in New Orleans, and he ny
proved the order; the genuine trea'
ury note was not forwarded 10 me u
early rs expected. (llerc, Telegram
exhibit A was handed TO witness
which he read. 1t was from a. Gas
" Co, asking Tor genuine bill ono
! more another message from l.. a
White asking for genuine mole, wa
i, handed to witnesses said he wrote
then another, acknowledging corrcc
ucss of proof, was rean and said TO U
, his message. All this work was don
l by me upon my brothers orders onl
. had nothing TO do with the matte
except to follow his instructions
paid $50 on the account for havlli
l. backs printed in New Orleans; q
n the money from my brother; sa
n Mr.. Wald in A. Cast II Co.'s house {
the 10th of August and he said
would have them done ON the folloN
ing day made arrangements with NJ
Ie Wald to send man to express oil
Ie with labels, TO have them then Q
4, pressed to my address at Blum, Tie!
:, | paying express, That night Us "
- taking my seat at the supper table
80 was arrested; did telegraph &
Of agent TexPs Express company to d
"a liver the pa 'kages of labels to II
:" brother, os phi II. White, Here,
" Portuguc message from Joseph
ra Lucius White was read and tran
". lated, which was as follows;
t, "Recei, ed letters answer to-da
4, give job il two"
W ,nbor.tnnd This 10 mean 10 hn