Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1885-11-12
FOREIGN NEWS.
GLADSTONE IN EDINBURGH.
pearance OF the Statesman-He Ad.
dresses q Large Audience.


EDrNBUKGH, Nov. IL.
Gladstone and wife and Lord Roseberry
and wife today drove in q carriage from
Dalmsny Park through the principal thoroug-
fares to Frees Assembly Hall. Crowds of
people lined the route and great enthusiasm
was manifested at the appearance of Mr..
Gladstone. On reaching the hall Mr.. Glad
stone found it literally packed with human
beings awaiting to hear his address. Glad
stone said many lies had been told against
him personally in this campaign, many of
which he specified and all of which he denied
He read an extract from his recent manifesto
as follows
"With respect to the severance of the
Church of England from the State l think it
is obvious that so vast q question cannot be-
come practical till it shall have grown famil-
lar to the public mind by thorough discussion,
and that the proposal, when thoroughly dis
cussed, shall be approved. Neither, think,
can such a change arise in a country such as
ours, except with a large observance of the
principles of equity and liberality. as well as
with the general consent of the nation.
We can hardly, however, be surprised
if those who observe that current,
almost throughout the civilized world,
slowly sets in this direction, should desire
or fear that among ourselves, too, it may be
found to operate. l cannot forecast the dim
and distant courses of the future, but like all
others, have observed a vast and ever in
creasing development for the last 90 years,
both at home and abroad, in the church to
which belong, of the powers of voluntary
support. Those abridgements of her prerog-
atives as an establishment, which have been
frequent of late years, have not brought
about decrease and have at least been con-
temporaneous with the increase of her spir-
itual and social strength. The English church
appears to be eminently suited in many
weighty points to the needs of the coming
time, and have strong conviction that if
this great modification, at our inherited in
stitutions, shall hereafter be accomplished,
the vitality of the church of England will be
found equal to all the needs of the OCCASION"
He then said-"When l wrote this section
considered it a posthumous requisite, fully
believing-and | still retain the belief-that
never should be called on to share in the
practical controversies in relation thereto.
| wrote simply to recommend that in the
future. more or less remote, when the con-
trOversy shall arise it can be prosecuted in an
equitable temper, and with careful endeavors
to master its enormous difficulties. After
writing the passage in the manifesto / heard
nothing of the question for many weeks. 1t
certainly did not excite alarm. For a long
time | was not aware of the intention to make
'ds establishment" a test question, but am
now confident it will be made test question
by tory influence He then severely arraign-
ed the tories for bringing this question into
politics at this time, and protested against the
intending church question, 10 the exclusion
Of every other question. Continuing, he said,
cond;da,es an ,b;s ores,ion onlv thoro "a No
senso in IL who, 7 contend ;s ,ha, tharo ~
No stato of tbngs now ex;s,,no wh;oh n,.has
il necessarv inst or allowohle 70 ro;so tho
tho ouest;on Of tho En,l;sh cbrrcb d;s.os+oh
E.bment ;nst now Tbo Observation-Disclosures IN
Scotland ia rho o,estion tho Sco,ch naonla
shonld dsal w,h wben rho rronor t;r,a ar-
r;ves which in nv on;n;on hos not vo, como
II wouId bs an ontraq;ons follv Car the I;h.
eraIs m allow tbemselves to d-ow from Tho
other real sol;d ;ssne. Of Tho dov hv +h;.
onest;on We confront tho elector. and sov
vote for or aoainst tho candidate on tho
oronnd connected with the great ouestions
r;ne for discussion which can ba ,reatad in a
nractical manner and so as IN no of se,v;ce
70 the country.
Referring to the edis.establishment of tho
| Irish cbnrch some % vears aoo Gladstone
eaid The reforming snirit then wQa un-
versal and the ouestion had been alive ao
vears and the moment the attention was
drawn TO the Irish church II was .een to be a
mockerv There was no compar;son be
said. between the Irish church then as regards
| the ouestion of dis-establisb,nent and tho
church of England now. The dises,ab.
lishment ia gigantic operation. In
the case of the irish church the constant
allegation of the torie, was that we shonld
di.-establish the English church immediatelv
afterwards. answered that challenge then
to the effect that the dis-establishment of the
Jrisb church was a great undertaking and
doubted whether a man breathed the air of
Parliament who could dis-e.tablish the Church
of England. have some doubts now. Mapv
of these writing about dis-establishment in
Eneland know little. They frame utterly
imnossible plans. and the English people
cannot accent them now, having made their
minds to a question which is strange instead
of familiar 10 the masses of the people. Its
a verv great serious question. but the
public mind in England is unprepared for
such a tremendous change, and until the pub
lie favor the movement its a mistake to appe al
to it. Coming nearer home there's considera-