New-York tribune., 1885-07-09
VALKS AND TALKS IN THE CITY.

A New Yorker who has large mining interests In
Mexico and recently spent month there said to me:
Gonzales and his crowd pundered Mexico right and
left. They run by Dutch. French and English
syndicates Americans had no show at all. Daz
believes n Americans trusts In America and encourages
citizens OF the United States In every way. That Is
one OF the troubles down there Americans at
In contact with the intrigues of the other foreign
Daz IL bound to come out all right, because
he @ the 9 he sn an s 6sys FrPs p taken ami
shot some morning for conspIrng against the Govern
ment, for that Is what he Is doing"
Ihear that william Henry Hurlbnrt, George Alfred
Town send and John Russell Young talked OF as
writers for paper that Is u rise tho plant OF The
In the project
The famous Maxwell land grant OF New.MeIico. with
which Of Mr.. Elklns has been associated, has
had several curious stages II was confirmed In Con-
gross through the efforts OF Judah p. Benjamin. II
there was anything wrong in the grant It at that
tme and protected for all future time by the action
OF Congress Mr. Benjamin TO the day Of his death in
sisted that the action taken In strict conformity to
the law OF nations and that no other course was hon.
orably possible. The connection OF ex-senator j. B.
Chaee o. Colorado, with tho grant WAS as an agent
fer its sale 1t held for sale at SsOOOOo but thero
was constant attack tho title. Mr. Chahee under
took its sae aud given option it ut the preo
named lie spent two years In selling it to q Dutch
syndicate for 100000. 1t was his first big stake
a they say In the Western country where he opcrat
Ing Ii netted him about $250,000. II was necessary,
In order to gain tho confidence Of the Dutehmen, that
the opinions OF able lawyers should be subnitted to
them in regard 20 the validity OF titlo They also
wanted the opinion OF sono one In the Government.
The stands for great deal more abroad
than 1t does at home. This is the way Secretary Bayard
was brought into the matter, with George l. Curtis,
William NJ Evarts and others avn told that Senator
Thurman OF Ohio asked to give opinion. but re-
fused He was for a long time inclined TO believe that
tho grant was fraud, but came finally to tue belief
that 10 was valid. He has always insisted,
however, that Benjamin. and tho Congress which
The Dutch syndicate bonded the property to procure
money stock with cattle The bonds were taken by
Macyea.h ordered suit brought for the
Government to wrest the title away, the Duchmea be-
scared that thoy have since stood ready to lose
all their investment rather than hght fer It, An agent
OF the bsndhoders has gone over to show them the
necessity OF making contest.
Its not often that leadership descends from father to
son rs is the case with Congressman John S. WiSc of
virginia who even la the dstranght condition OF his
sate with new elements OF franchise and questions
OF staesmanship on which there precedents has
taken position to attract to himself great deal Of
attention from the country I was talking with Mr.
Wise the other day about report that the English
Government had formally called the attention OF the
President to the reputation OF Virginia, with view OF
taking up In the United States courts the rights OF
English holders OF bonds. IIe sad hope 1t Is so.
But the ton OF the debt would not be changed; 1t
would only transfer Of creditorshp The idea that
the state DO In any bettor position In court than
the individual holder not deensibe. There talk
at one time ac In NewYork, by which holders
of bonds could transfer them To an officer Of the
state when the state w0ld sue Virginia II sIeediy
fell through. nope England has takcn up the matter
however because IL wOud all tend to the settlement OF
or debt question The United states ought to pay It,
That was doctrine adv by father In the last
pl bile speech he made feoro his death lie held that
the In the autonomy OF tho stale by the general
placed the latter the burden OF paying
Its then outstanding debt. lie always said 1t was
mistake for either state acknowledge the debt The
amount held In England which suit could be brought
i'm the way suggested Is small. and confined TO few so
called sterling bonds Most Of the bonds held there can
be sho have been bought after they were past due
speculative purposes These could have no ana
ing in sush q suit. Ii Mr.. Blaine had been elected
President think he would have called the attention OF
ress the obligation OF the Federal Govefnmcnpto
proyie for set lemen In some way OF the virginia
debt which out OF Federal legislation
One thing Is certain, our people Will never pay any |
more III an they have agreed under any crcun-
STANCES don't think England herself could carve 1t
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