Bismarck weekly tribune. [volume] (Bismarck, Dakota [N.D.]) 1884-1943, 1885-10-09
If They Tell the Truth, Both Par
ties Are Composed of Bad
.... -. People.
Secretary Manning Will Go to His
Home to Vote the Demo-
cratic Ticket.
Undertaken Merritt's Bill Not So
Large as Reported Condensed
kilograms. ~.a@ .
Foraker and Hoadly.

TOLEDO, Oct S-The joint debate be-
tween Governor Hoadly and Judge Fora
ker, democratic and republican candidates
respectively, for governor of that state, at
the election next Tuesday, drew an enor :
nous audience to the opera house. The
building will seat ZOO. The doors opened
at 7:SO and in ten minutes every seat and
all available standing room was occupied
while on the stairs and street below,
crowds were clanloring for admittance.
The stage was provided with 224 seats.
divided equally between the two COM
mittees, for which tickets were issued,
which were occupied by prominent lead
ers of both parties. The remainder of the
house was free.
Judge John H. Doyle was chairman of
the meeting on the part Of the republicans,
and Representative Frank Hurd oficiated
for the democrats. The speeches were
divided as follo&s: Governor Hoadly
opened with one hour; Judge Foraker oc-
cupied one hour and half, H0adiy to
close with half an hour. Judge Doyle
called the meeting to order and announced
the programme. Representative Hurd
arose and introduced Governor Hoadly in
few words The latter began his speech
by reciting the circumstances leading to
the challenge to a joint debate. The most
Important issue of the campaign is the
question of personal liberty and how far it
is interfered with by law as to the habit of
drinking. Then he proceeded to define the
position of both parties on the liquor ques
tlOn; reading the platforms OF each, he de-
fined the plank in the republican platform
recognizing the right of the people to
amend the organic law of the state to mean
that republicans favor rohibitory amend
the law may 90 to regulate the personal
habits of citizens of the state. The answer
to it depends on the answers to other ques-
tions. Is drinking vice? ?" "Is it harm
full or wrong to take one glass Of beer or
wine~ is a man to be allowed to indulge
in moderate Dc drinking. which can do him no
harm harm 10 drinking aiaa ing Liquor be selling
OF self control who takes drink on the
farm does no harm, he does no harm
to drink it in saloon. He referred to the
local option feature OF the Scott law, or
prohibition in spots, and defined himself as
opposed to partial prohibition, and in faver
The principle that would justify the Scott
laws local option feature, would justify
the prohibition of chewing or smoking to-
baccO within the municipality. The con-
clusiOn was that legislation should be di-
rected against the evils of liquor drink
ing,but not against the drinking itself.
The most valuable possession OF citizen
is his personal liberty; therefore. all move
merits which strike at this must be Op-
posed. Drinking is not a vice, but excess
sive drinking is. Prohibition is a failure
in Maine, Kansas and Iowa. The statistics
of number Of United States reports from
these states were read, showing an increase
in two of the three. He challenged For
aker to state whether he, is in faver of
local prohibition in municipalities and not
in favor of prohibition of the whole state.
He is in favor of the Scott law. The ninth
section gives the municipalities the power
toprohibit. How can he justify this and not
Justify the prohibition of the state?
He insisted that prohibition is the issue in
Ohio, because the next legislature will be
asked to pass prohibition bill. He de-
sired to know if Foraker, if elected
would, in his message, recommend the sub
mission Of prohibition amendment to the
state constitution. He demanded also to
know whether ii the republican supreme
court is elected, it will reverse the late de-
cision that the Scott law is unconstitu-
back the taxes charged that this is the re-
publican programme. He declared there
were but two methods Of settling the tenn
perance question:: prohibition or license
He declared he favors a graded Ii
cense measured according to the amount
of sales. License protects the traffic
secures the personal liberty of the people,
crushes out low dives and secures Obedi-
ence to law by dealers. He declared taxa
ton revenue power, not police power,
as the Scott law made it. That law proved
a failure as a police measure, because more
United States licenses were issued the year
1t was in effect than In any previous year.
The speaker closed with brief legal argu-
ment to show that taxation is really d
license and unconstitutional.
JUDGE FORAKER's REPLY.
Judge Doyle then introduced Judge For
aker, who, after the applause had subsided,
began by referring to several minor parts
of Hoadly's speech. He then said that,
from the character of Hoadly's remarks,
he evidently mistook the speaker (Fora-
kerr for Leonard, prohibition candidate for
governor. The republican plank on the
liquor traffic is for explicit declarations:
first den0nncing the democrats for the re-
peal of the Scott law; second, recognizing
the right Of the people to amend the con-
stitution; third and fourth, declaring in fa-
yor OF the regulation and taxation CT the
traffic. He read from Hoadly's inaugural