Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1885-10-23
PoRTER's STATEMENT.

PORTERS 5 STATEMENT.
Porter being interviewed substantially
corroborated the Depew story. 1T is
| true, said he, that after Grant took the
| stand against the Presidents course toward
paroied Confederates, johnson changed his
whole attitude in regard to the South and
commenced to curry favor with the higher
| class Of people III that section. He evil
IDENTIFY intended to see that the Southern
Representatives were admitted to Congress,
and was determined to use force, if neces-
Sary, to install the Southern members. As
soon as 1t was found that in MARYLAND the
militia was being reorganized, and num-
Der OF strong, well-equipped regiments were
being raised, Grant became very apprehen-
Slve. He feared we We're on the verge OF
revolution. | was with him constantly at
this time by his direction, and spent several
weeks in Maryland, obtaining what in
formation | could in regard to the number
and strength of their regiments and the
feeling of the people. There was great pre-
dominance of ex-Confederate soldiers in
many of the regiments. The President
exercised a good deal of adroitness in al
tempting to win the General over to his
views, but in this he utterly failed He was
frequently invited to Cabinet meetings.
where his opinions were asked with great
difference. He was treated in manner that
would easily have flattered and controlled
weaker man. The General was entirely
frank with the President, and told
him emphaticaiiy what stand he would
have 10 lake as the General OF Inc Army in
case OF any proceedings that he considered
revolutionary" In regard to the Mexico
mission, Porter says: The instructions
were very general. 1t was perfectly eyi-
deui 10 Grant that this was n mere excuse
for getting him out of the country. He
: l.. Il, /
met meeting. The President said TO his
Attorney General: 4 have given General
Grant orders to proceed to Mexico. which
he declines TO obey. | want an opinion
from you as to whether the General of the
Army cannot be compelled to obey my
orders. General Grant spoke up at once
and said: Mr.. President. | think | can
give you as good ain opinion on that point
as the Attorney General. We are at peace
with Mexico. and rs Commander-in-Chief
OF the Army you have no right to order
me there in a military capacity You have
rendered me a highly diplomatic mission.
and have but ayailed myself of right
which every citizen is entitled to-that of
declining such mission. Mr. Seward
nodded MS head approvingly to General
Grant as lie made these remarks. There
were no coerciye measures taken, and, as
far as this mission was concerned, the mat
ter ended there
THE FEELING IN WASHINGTON.
WAsHINGToN, October 22d. - There is
still great interest feltin the charges against
eXPresident Johnson. which were con-
tanned in Hon. Chauncey Depew's letter
and men in this city who are supposed to
be able to throw any light upon the sub
ject have been sought and interviewed by
the local papers. 1t is a noticeable fact
that the defenders of Mr. johnson mostly
content themselves with characterizing the
alleged statements of General Grant. as
related by Mr.. Depew, as absurd and i'm
probable, without bringing anv facts to
disprove the allegations.
\ REMARKABLE STORY.
The Ere7iag star. however publisbes
rather remarkable interview with General
Rolf Saunders, of Tennessee. in which
that gentleman says as follows: "Tn 1871
was sitting in ex-President .Johnson,s
library IN Greenyille, Tenn. He was talk
ing OF his experiences as President. and
remarked: I'll show you some unwritten
history. He reached up to the book
shelves and took down a very large vol
unle, larger than the ordinary ledger
OF business house. There were a nan-
Der OF those volumes, ranged alongside of
each other. He laid before me the one he
had taken down, and opened il at place
which was marked by torn piece of a
newspaper. II was a detailed record of
what had occurred at memorable Cabi-
net meeting. These volumes contained
the minutes of all the Cabinet meetings OF
Johnson's administration. The proceed
ings We're set forth in clear hand. | read
the records OF the meeting to which he had