The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1885-02-17

would be forgotten. Every error or his
would be forgotten. as 1T, it ought to be, s.
remembered was the campaign from that day
when he sent the tidings which revived the
hopes of the North, and to that other day when
he sent the news which carried joy to every
northern heart. All the good would be reu,em-
bered and all the mistakes be- and ought to be:
forgotten. The campaigns of Grant would live
in history and compare favorably with the
brightest and grandest achievements of Eng
lands noblest heroes The successful close of
the war under Grant had made him the idol OF
the people of the North his generous and noble
treatment of Lee and the men who fought under
him, and his subsequent lenent treatment of the
Southern people, had won for him the heart
of the South. He (AIr. Slocum) believed that
to-day it was the wish of the people
of the South, as we'll as of the North, that the
government take care of Gen. Grant and pro-
vide for him literally The honor of the gov
ernment was at stake, and he trusted the bill
would pass the House with the same unanimity
as it had the Senate.
Mr.. Horr said he had demanded second
because he was opposed to the present bill, and
not because he was opposed to putting Gen.
Grant on the retired list. He would walk on
his knees ali over this city in the snow in order
to accomplish that object; but he opposed the
bill on the ground that it was drawn for the
very purpose of preventing Gen. Grant from
being put on the retired list
Mr.. Slocum suggested that the bill had been
drawn by Senator Edmunds.
Mr.. Horr replied that when Senator Edmunds
learned that the bill was subject to objections
which the President conscientiousy made, he
had drawn another bill, which obviates those
difficulties. That bill had passed the Senate
and now the committee on military affairs had
refused to substitute it for the pending BILL He
mad passed twenty years of his life standing by
General Grant, who had been viliied in this
Nation as no other man was who breathed the
breath OF llfe Now an attempt made to
force members into false position-to force them
to vote for bill, purposely, designedly brought
in here to put the executive of the Nation in
tight place. If the second Edmunds bill were
substituted, it would he passed unanimously
Let not the House try to cast stones before the
people when they were demanding bread.
Mr.. Thomas opposed the bill in its present
shape, and expected to vote against it. He be-
leved 1t was trap to catch Republican votes
and to put the President in tight place. The
President could not sign this bill, and the Demo
Gratis knew this fact. No man would go further
than he to aid General Grant in the day of his
distress, but he would not allow himself to be
paced in a false position.
Mr. R6secrans regarded the bill as a plain
proposition to rewSsrd General Grant for his dis
tinguished military services 1t was his duty
to say that he could not vote for it~-ft was not
his intention to resort to any historical REQ -f1s
why he thought General Grants reputation
had been exaggerated and misrepresented
and when history came to be writ
ten. it would be pared down to very
into that. 1t had been to the interest of a great
political party to make General Grants services
appear as large as possible, for he was their
servant General Grant himself had prepared
the first two volumes Of Badeau's life of Grant,
upon which students of history had placed the
stamp of untrustworthiness The public had
been told that General Rosecrans would not
vote for the Grant bill, because of personal ill
will He did not think any of his colleagues
would believe that he was capable of descending
to the depth being governed in a public duty by
personal dislikes He did not oppose the passage
OF this bill on account of any of these things to
which he had alluded, or other things to which
he had not alluded, namely: Statements made
officially by General Grant which we're
false, which General Grant knew to
be false and which he (Rosecrans) had
stated in his official reports to be false. 1t had
been said that General Grant was poor: that
there was nothing between him and the poor
house, except the income from $780, 000 and it
had been circulated around by his family that
the 800 was substantially lost That was
not true. There was another circumstance
to which he called attention: Congress- by
solemn act, was called to arrest-whatl Why,
the progress of public opinion for an investiga-
tion in that confidence mill called Grant g. Ward
If gentlemen could afford to put ligature
around that investigation and deceive the public
mind, he could not,
Mr.. Horr called attention to the fact that on
Feb 3, the President had sent message to the
House, in which he asked that body to act upon
d uiedSuIo WHICH Woulu place deEeFal Grant
the retired list and urged the passage of the
second Senate bill.
Mr.. Slocum said there had been q time when
he was about near General Grant as the gen
tleman from Michigan, and he intimated that
the gentleman's opposition was due to the fact
that General Grant had tried to do Justice TO
General Porter. Even were the pending bill
vetoed. it would be passed over the veto. In the
message to which the gentleman from Michigan
referred, the President had given the number of
the bill he would sign. Suppose the President
vetoed this bill-what would happen2 Why
within three weeks time the house at the other
end OF the avenue would be occupied by gen.
tleman who would not sickle so for his prerog-
ative.
Mr.. Cox, of New York, eulogized the services
of General Grant, and supported the BILL
Mr.. Randall favored the measure, because he
believed it to be right procedure. Whether
1t was the most expeditions, he was not going to
inquire; but if this proceeding failed, then he
was ready to resort to some other that would be
more expeditions. Applause If the friends
of General Grant on this floor were divided they
would be sure to be overcome, and they would
not be free from blame.
Mr.. Bayne regretted that there were arrayed
against this bill the preiudices of some men,
General Grant had conquered the personal iniur-
les felt by certain person, and the political resent
ment of some Republicans. This bill was not
saying to the President You SHALL" but "you
may" 1t was in form which had been used
since the foundation of the government, and the
present President had signed three bills similar
in their character.
The motion to suspend the rules and pass the
bill was lost-yeas, 1913; nays, l03-not the nee
essary wo-thirds in the affirmative. The mega
tive vote was cast by Democrats who were op-
posed to General Grants retirement, reinforced
by number of Republicans, who. though in
favor of the purport of the bill. were opposed to
its form, believing it would place the President
under the necessity OF vetoing measure which
he strongly approved.
Mr.. Edmunds's Other Bill.
WASHINGTON. Feb 16-Mr. Randall has sig
nifed his intention of trying to pass, under sus-
pension of the rules, during the last six days of
the session, the second Edmunds bill passed by
the Senate for retirement of General Grant
which gives the President authority to place q
general of the army on the retired list without
specifying names This is the bill the President