Seattle daily post-intelligencer. [volume] (Seattle, W.T. [Wash.]) 1881-1888, 1885-02-14

peteDt for the Ho1ss 10 close debate on
tns paragraphs Of hin nos yss read in
es1nittSe.
he Speaker Pr Tern (Elsckb7rn) )
said tnst this point wo1ld have been
vel taken, u directed against approp-s-
Anon bills ard revenue bills. bat river
and hsrb1E bills bad been repeatedly
held 20 be neither, and she Chair there
fore overTulec the point OF order.
keed appealed from the decision.
Scch ruling would establish q bad pre-
esoent of the most astonishing chsrac.
Ter, which would necessarily recsiI on
both sides Of the HoEse. II the rule
which allowed debate 70 be closed on a
pending paragraph. no destination vas
made between general appropgiSticA
bills and other bills, and it was not pos
saole for any member 10 give any
grounds Of difference between them.
Loog called the attention Of the House
| 10 the fact that II the principle involved
in the decision Of the soesk sr we're ssT-
ried out, 10 voald be in the povFer OF
any committee 70 pat the entire bill in
one section and then cut OF debate up
or that section.
After further argument Willis moved
to lay the appeal On the table. which
was agreed TO, yeas III, nays IS; and
then though IL was two minutes past
IL, the Houee adjourned. Rnd WAS i'm
nediatsly called to order again on Fri
days session
Henley from the COMMITTEES on Pub
| lie Lands reported back the resolution
requesting the President to inform the
House what were the reasons which
compelled him to appoint commission
ers TO examine the California and Ore
Ron Railroad, said railroad having fail
ed to complete its line within the time
required by Law.
Oates offered 6 substitute resolution
respectfully requesting the President
NOT TO confirm any favorable report,
which may be made by the commission
recently appointed By him to inspect a
section of the California aud Oregon
road or TO order patents TO be issued IN
al the senate acts upon the House bill |
forfeitiHR certain lands granted 20 aid in |
the construction Of that railroad. or un-
III after the adjournment Of the present |
Congress. He offered this substitute, |
be said, because he did not think the |
original resolution was exactly respect |
full 10 the President and would not 40
oomplish the purpose intended.
The substitute was ruled out on q /
point of order.
Henley demanded the previous cues
ton, but no quorum voted and Hoar /
raised that point. saying that such an
outrage should not be peFpetrated on
the executive without debate.
The previous question Was seconded
by llt to AZ on vote by the tellers.
Steele moved to lay the resolution on
the table which was lost by ~ TO 50.
The resolution then passed and the
House then proceeded 10 the copsiders
tion of business under special rules.
Holman moved TO strike out the
amendment paragraph and to insert q
clause appropriating $425, 900 fer trans
pUrtatien Of forsion mails, including
railway transit across she Isthmus Of
Panama. aHd re-enacting for one year
from July next sections 1916 and 1888
of the Revised Statutes. The provision,
Holman said. contained in the bill pro-
posed direct subsidy to vessels wheth
err they carried mail or not. IL the gov
eminent entered into contract with
the Pacific Mail Steamship Company,
that powerful corporation, which had
been pressing tAis measure with such
industry, would receive $4,000 where
1t now received $2l 600, and it weuld re-
oeive that whether 1t carried mails or
not. IL was naked subsidy. No mem
Der who had been present on this floor
some years ago and witnessed the mem
orable scene which occurred in refer
ence to the Pacific Mail subsidy, would
ever wish to witness another such
scene. Men who had come in here with
uutarnished regulations had. under the
baneful principle of subsidies, left here
clothed with dishonor and disgrace,
never to return.
Mills inquired what right men had to
put the hand of the Government into
the pockets of the lab0ring people in
order TO build mp the business Of John
Roach, for in this bill John Roach was
the "nigRer in the woodpile" Why
should the Government 90 down on its
knees to John Roach, and give him
500, 900 fer carrying the mails in Amer
lean bottoms, when foreign bottoms
were carrying them for $50o,0o07 Ii
was bad start for Democratic ad-
miuistrstion, just ence more brought
into she confidence and affection of the
American people, and in few days be-
fore the President-elect would take the
oath Of office, that Congress should 20
down on its knees to John Roach as
prelude to that entertainment.
Money regretted that the gentleman
from Indiana (Holman) had seen fit to
unfeld Ihs sorry spectacle of the Pacific
Mail subsidy, and bad attempted to stay
q good measure by an epithet that de
nominated the measure as ''subsidy."
IL was a subsidy TO pay ocean steam
ships owned by American citizens a
reasonable compensation. Ii was q
subsidy to pay steamers q reasonable
He was not to be intimi-
dated from the discharge of his duty by
any parade OF disreputable jobs in the
past, and he would not be frightened
from the discharge Of that duty by any
cry OF subsidy. The plain question
presented was whether or not the Gov
eminent would pay American citizens a
reasonable compensation for carrying
mails.
Warner, OF Ohis. Supported Holman's
motion and objected 20 the provision
of the bill as being q departure from
Democratic doctrine. That subsidy
should never be voted.
Hewitt Of New York said that IL he
we're to decide the question In accord
ance with the views advanced, he should
probably take strong grounds against
the provision in the bill, bat the people
ct this country were not fools They
were practical people who lived by daily
labor and who would see the product Of
that labor. The question presented was
simply this, did the people want to
have the mails carried in American
ships or notl II they did, then they
must paw the reasonable compensation
they demanded
Bsyne expressed surprise that the
Democratic party should start out In
this way, and inaugurate the Demo
cratic assum ption OF control of this
by granting subsidies. No
man could characterize this provisioR
by any other name. Ii vas paying fer
service doue. more than an equivalent
for that service, and thus far was gift
on the part of the Government. Who
was to be benefited by IL Largely the
Pacific Mail Steamship Company. Last
year thai company had earnings
to "a, $4,000. and net profits
70 81 sc. 60o' and yet If the provision Of
this bill was agreed to, the Government
vould pay that company $4,000 for
rendering a service which II nov sen
dered for S2i. 900, and yet the gentle
man said tsis was not q subsidy. He
found among the directors Of the con-