Salt Lake evening Democrat. [volume] (Salt Lake City, Utah) 1885-1887, 1885-10-23
GRANT AND JOHNSON.

The statement of Mr.. Chauncey M.
Depew concerning the relations OF Cen
eral Grant and President johnson, and
how johnson at first wanted to hang all
who had been in arms against the Union
and how Grant was against it, has sue
ceeded in creating furore. Mr.. Depew's
statement is vouched for by some, and by
some il Is denied and doubted. AS has
been suggested by some newspapers, why
was not all OF this brought out at the time
OF the impeachment OF johnson?
Colonel Fred Grant essays to give an
explanation OF this matter, and his ex-
PLANTATION is about as clear as mud. a
special to the Tribune says:
II had been asked, he said, by the Herald,
why this action of General Grant had not
been brought up at the Impeachment trial
He said he knew of no reason definitely, but
he did know that the General was very much
opposed to the impeachment. proceedings,
and that his father had told him that one
great difficulty that occupied the minds of
! the thoughtful men ut that time, was as to
who was to take Johnson's place, If he we're
| impeached.
The worry of thoughtful men rs to who
would take Johnson's place If he were
impeached is rich, in fact altogether too
rich for most men. AT the time the at
tempt was made to impeach Johnson the
great majority Of the party in power were
never very much troubled as to who
should succeed man whom they desired
to remove. Why did not the thoughtful
men think of this before the attempt tc
impeach johnson was made?
Colonel Grant further said:
He knew of no documents in existence
that were absolutely oorroborative of the
facts of the conversation that Depew hat
there were some public men yet living, who
were contemporaneous with the period re
| ferred to, and who were made acquainted
privately with the action of johnson.
1t is strange that only yesterday Col
Grant did not know of any document
in existence that were absolutely corrob
orative OF the facts of the conversation
that Depew had with his father" whel
only last Tuesday he wrote Mr.. Depew Al
| follows:
MY DEAR Mr.. DEpEw: am in receipt o
your letter and thank you for your respons
to my request. l have read your accoun
with great interest. 1t is substantially cor
rect, and have been able to verify the fact
from documents, letters and personal recol
lections. Very truly yours,
+. d. GRANT.
In this letter he plainly and withou
hesitation says: "I have been able b
verify the facts from documents, letter
and personal recollections." These &C
counts don't agree, and it will be yer
hard task to make them do 80. The ma
who knows all about it now is said to b
General Sherman, and he declines t
answer" In his Memoirs he was ou
spoken enough, and he did not mince hi
words about men or matters. All wi
readily recall his words about Joe Hookt
and Lookout Mountain. Whether I'll
! force OF public clamor will succeed
making General Sherman speak, tin
, alone can tell. Had he the volubility
, his brother john
, But the end OF this controversy abol
Grant and Johnson is not yet. Tt
, Louisville Courier-Jouinal will publis
r General Grants testimony before IL
House Judiciary Committee on July
r 1867, and then the public may judi
whether or not Johnson was such
, traitor and scoundrel as Mr.. Dope
, paints him in relating his conversatic
: with General Grant. In his testimor
before the House Committee Gener
4 Grant no doubt told all he knew. Gener
Grants frame and greatness cannot
8 added to by trying to belittle Preside