New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1885-04-24
HARTMANN'S WAR VIEWS.
JAMES REDPATH HAS AN INTERVIEW WITH
THE FAMOUS hIHILIST.
WHAT THE REvoLUTIoNIsTs WILL DO IN EVENT
OF AN ANGLo-RUssIAN wAR-PREsENT POWER


OF THE PARTY.
Some time since met, at the French Com
m'nsfs ball. group OF Russian Nihilists who had LETT
their country for their Empcrors good One Of them
Russian Hebrew one of the sociallsc propaganda was
introduced student who could be trusted TO give
clear and accurate of the ideas. history and
FOLEY, both OF the Nihilists and Terrorists. After
number OF interviews with him. in which took down his
statements In shorthand celebrated American friend
OF these revolutionary exes said that in order to give
The report semi-ofcial authorization, shonld see Mr.
Hartmann the most famous AMI the most dreaded OF the
Terrorists. the made the attempt to blow
near Moscow the train which the Emperor was
travelling the episode known in the annals of the
Nihilsts rs the Moscow Attempt" With diii-
cultj ana after considerable journey, obtained an
| Interview with Mr.. Hartmann. AS with most famous
characters the careless would suspect II
thoy should meet Mr. Hartmann in the street. that this
slisht-tu ilt. middle sized. man was the one
| person whom the Car OF all the Russas most feared
lie Ia man singulary modest and even shy in bis
demeanor, quiet and unassumng; without the faiutest
trace OF egosm or of braNado either in his actions or
his talk He has refined and almost delicate features
and II he should he met, dressed in evening suit at
social party lie I'D probably be the last suspected
IN any company OF dozen gentlemen having been one
OF the chief leaders of the Nhilists when he was in
Russia and Of the daring nitiatcrs Of the policy
| OF Terrorism.
submitted to Mr.. Hartmann the interviews that had
had with my Russo Hebrew friend. He went The
manuscript very carefully, making snoh corrections as
were needed-all of which, OF course, accepted that
| IL would be only accurate but $50 To speak, an
authorized declaration OF the policy and purposes OF the
Nihis;s. whose action. II Russia should wage with
EnglandwI be of the utmost interest TO the civilized
world. After the corrections hal been made AMI Mr..
Hartmann had declared tie interview to be, far 1t
short OF the history. theories
and purposes Of Nniliss and Terrorists took
M mn no fouru nd
| dispatch abont the Nhilists THIS Ia the dispatch:
PEsH April ls - Pcsiher- Ll9yds correspondent mt st
Petersburg arms that Nihilisn has practically ceased
10 exist IN the russian o'nfines The Nhilist societies
he says have dissolved because Of lack IF support among
the people Of Russia owing to their repugnance
/ To the ltoT uganda ~ murder aud 1luOd
Mr.. Hartmann read the dispatch and then gave his
views Of the Russian situation. lie uses the English
language with hesitation. but makes himself per
icctly understood. | do not always give his original
words. hut he revised the report and adopts the
merely verbal alterations that were made in IT, which
extended only to the TRANSACTIONS Of the dloms.
THE NInlII~Ts OF TODAY
"we. Mr.. Hartmann, what do you say about that
/ dispatch :"
Isay" he began, that have enough direct informa-
ton from Russia to say positively. that 1t Is entirely
untrue. Sinism Is not extinct but growing. and
growing extendIngl stll further call item Nhillss
In accordance vita the custom OF Western Europe and
America. but they are Nhliss-T would call them
section ~ Socialists that are called NIhst. say that
the lack OF the sur port Of the people that
they seem dle-but simply that their interests-the
interest Of the party require them to wait before they
strike probably their last blow.
The Nhists regard the FOLEY OF the present Car
very foolish from the point Of view Of his own
dynnsiic interests First OF all almost his rsf acU he
executed "A a lady sophia Peroyskaa. who had
! occupied prominent position In society No Car had
ever before done such an act and 1t made him very
unpopular Then he declared. In a manifesto that he
was going support maintain the system OF Abso-
lu-m ~ Government, when every in Russia. his
personal advisers. knows that II ia npossiDy Ia do
/ 80 to-day. Tho pretence tiat the Government now
believes that Nihsm II dead is the repetition OF an Old
stry Only few years ago two or three ears snce-
you may remember ta the Chancellor Prince Gortsch-
akoh. declared tha there was no probiny % teNolu-
ton IN Russia u dO NOT use hls piel'e H"los pue n'
NEARLY "a remember MS thOughtl lie -aid tiat con
,tiiuiipul Government was an imros'iblly III Russia
Trr. would be either y republic ahsoutism. and The
act that ahs ,usn dill exist rcfntcd the notion that
argued acquescencs oi the people shOwrd tat
u personal government suited them. ~ proved the
n,o-sibty of establishing "A republican Government
The logic O events has tince demonstrated that the logic
OF the Government fallacous II was not long after
lsAed with u Grand Duke at its mead. Ia md out the
een OF socialism in the army a no no nssa Of
eating prOI agHndi-m IN the army II Nihlsm had Deen
dead as they pretended aud 1t was no proof OF the
! saving that Nihilism was dead when hundreds Of
military officers were sentenced TO siberia
RussA's DESIRE poR WAR.
DO you think that the Russian Government wants
! q fight Just now r.
yes, promptly responded the Terrorist, do. Seven
months ago stated to a reporter that. from information
had received FROM Russia knew that the Government
wanted 10 have a have the same kind Of nforma-
ton how The chief why Russia wants to fight is
| to send away troublesome reglnents-those whose
officers ara believed hold the Socialist theories. and
there ore from which military revolution most likely
10 spring out At that time my friends supposed that the
troops would be sent to Persia but 1t has been seen
that II was not Persia hut Afghauistan that was the
| objective point That the only mistake, although
| The geogra phical POSITION was about the same.
IL seems to me that Russia needs TO fight now. In
those stcppes the troublesome troops would be
out Of the way OF danger to the Government Another
reason although OF secondary practical or immediate
Importance to the Government is thata war would drive
away the minds OF the people from internal discomfort,
ana 80 from acting with the sociaist-Terrorists.
when the present Car asceuded the throne, OF
his first acts was drive away from the Government
Offices and from the Oas and from the educational
Institutions all the foreigners, but chiefly the Germans
rnat WAS partly the result OF the inhuence ct the
| Katkod AZ Its head Well now.as soon AS this party
lsl ma aS soon as tue sooAllSt moN.meht was leit
tho three Enperors-Of Austria, Germany ami Russia
After the other foreign Questions nau pIe disposed OF
tnere WAS "a citing exclusively devoted 10 tl" Mill
,ss IL was agreed there tna tue ree Emperors should
| "nv of these Powers 80. tho Austrian and German
| kInprrurs pledged themselves 10 nj troUps To the
u.s,t ffouter should reyol Itonary out break taAe
MAC, IN Kus-ia-the German officers fr0n colonel up,
| iu be replaced ny Russians, whlle tho subordinate
,mcers n ion colonel down would remain, rs before.
Ger,au The reason OF this arrangement was tnat the
oar knew that IA RuSslaL officers were well cdu-
cntcd they would probably support revol tOn II one
hnud lreak out whereas the Germans would naturally
snpor thp Government from which they derived their
inr1me The Car also pledged himself to rensate the
nrrulans In the positions from winch tley had been
removed. Now as You VIII see IRON 'I Tue latest ch1e
d,uatcucs the Ausriaus are actually massed ON tho
Russian frontier, to-day IN The preteNt OF Dens ready
49, nnnrc.s Pc ish revolt u breaks out, but truth
~ tai they are going to there to aid Russia In
of need The Germans alsO are soon 10 ulsS anu IOi
| a similar reason at their eastern frontier
WAR To DIVERT THE POPULAR MIND.
| What do y MI think Mr. Hartmann, the Nihsts will