Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1885-11-11

III. We recommend that all OfDcerS OF lilt OIlOu
placed in positions of trust be required by the
Trustees to give good and sufficient bonds Tor
the faithful discharge of their respective duties
And finally, these recommendations OF modl,
tcation being duly engrafted on the original
plan as ratified by your Convention OF Septem-
Der "a, 1885, we recommend that the Convention
now proceed to adopt articles of incorporation
of the California Fruit Union, and take all the
necessary steps 10 complete the organization
thereof.
William H. Aiken, R. J. Trumbull, Abbot
Kinney, A. Block, Horatio p. Livermore, r. Z.
belong, Morris NJ. Estee, Committee on Organl-
cation.
Upon the conclusion of the reading OF
the report, NJ. M. Estee moved that 1t be
adopted. Seconded.
THE DISCUSSION.
The question was asked what was in
tended by trains of fifteen cars when 1t
must be complete train?
Mr.. Livermore answered, that it would
need to be q complete train when 1t left
Sacramento, the principal shipping point.
The question was asked, whether in case
of cars going from San jose the price
would be $500 from that place or from Sac
ramento?
Mr.. Livermore thought lines not entirely
owned by the main transportation COM
pany would charge, but when the car
struck the main line no charge would be
made from there to Sacramento.
In answer to a question he said New
castle would remain shipping point, the
same as now, and its cars added when
train arrives there.
G. W. Hancock, of Sacramento, moved
as substitute for the pending motion,
that the report be accepted and placed on
file. This he did in order 10 get it before
the Convention for proper action, so that it
could be considered by paragraphs.
Mr.. Estee, OF Napa, opposed the motion,
saying it would not be debatable, and
would bury the report.
Mr.. Aiken said the purpose of the COM
mittee is, that if the report was adopted,
that the stockholders would meet Wednes-
day morning TO organize.
Mr.. Hancock claimed that no one could
discuss the report, because it did not give
any idea of the details Of the organization,
and hence no one would know whether
they desired to become stockholders or not.
Mr.. Livermore replied that the plan was
indicated by the resolution adopted at the
last meeting, and it had also been set forth
in circulars since issued. He then read
the articles of incorporation, saying they
might throw some light upon the subject
CUTTING THE KNOT
Mr.. kinny, of Los Angeles, moved, as a
means of cutting the knot that the con-
illusions of the report be taken up seriatim.
discussed and voted upon.
The previous motions were ignored and
this one adopted. The Secretary then read
Recommendation No. /, affixed at the close
of the report.
Mr. Russell, of Haywards, desired to
know whetheT-if he did not raise any
fruit, but did raise potatoes-he could sub
scribe to stock on the acreage of potatoes
he grew?
Mr.. Livermore said Governor Stanford
had remarked that he thought early in the
season, when there was but little fruit to
ship, as large a business of shipping of po-
tatoes might be effected as there is now at
the East in Bermuda potatoes. He thought
such produce might be arranged for.
Mr.. Block, of San JOSE said that in con-
versation with Governor Stanford, in dis
cussing the small amount of fruit on hand
at the time cherries are ripe, and referring
to the requiring of a full train, ETC., he said
prices could probably be arranged, so that
large traffic might be worked up at that
season of the year.
After some further remarks the recon-
mendation was adopted.
No. was then read, and unanimously
adopted without debate.
No. was then discussed, the remarks
being directed to limiting carefully the
issuance of stock.
Drury Melone made some spirited re-
marks, in which he stated that a certain
fruit shipper had said that his firm had
commenced shipping with a capital of
$3.50, OOOs and i'll four years had made
a MILLION DOLLARS.
A. T. Hatch said he did not intend to
make any remarks at this convention, but |
when such a statement was made he |
thought it his duty to say that he did not
believe the statement, ana he called upon |
the speaker TO give names.
Mr.. Melone replied that he would do so !;
that it was Washington Porter, of Porter |
Bros, and he told Morris NJ Estee so. |
[Great Commotion.l Il call upon Mr. |
Estee to say whether or not my statement
is true?'
A BREEZE.
Mr. Estee-I don't see what that has to
do here, but inasmuch as l am asked | will |
say that Mr.. Porter did make that state
ment to me. (Renewed commotion, with
audience looking over to Mr.. Hatch.1
The recommendation was then amended
to make it read that stock should only be
issued upon the acreage already planted to
trees, etc. So amended, the number was
then unanimously adopted.
Considerable discussion was held on
recommendation No. L.
John I. Doyle in remarks made, entered
somewhat upon q general review of the
proposed fruit train proposition. He said
he was not perhaps, apt to look upon rail
roads with over much favor, but in this
case he was of the opinion that the offer of
the railroad officials to take train of fifteen
cars each alternate day for $500 per car, the
train starting from a central point like
Sacramento, was a very fair one, This
train would be run through as quickly as
passenger trains, but instead of making %
miles per hour and then stopping so long
at stations, the fruit train would only run
about Is miles per hour and make few
stops.
a. T. Hatch asked whether a member of
this corporation, when formed, could sell
his fruit to any one outside of the company,
if he was offered more for it.
Mr.. Estee replied:
MOST CERTAINLY HE COULD,
AS often as he pleased, but his common
sense would urge him to put his fruit where
he held stock. He looked upon many of
the questions asked and objections made
as in the nature of disposition to pull
down the effort to form an association.
He said, if those present wanted to organ
ize. and so organize as to be benefited by
it, and if they would determine to make
success. of it, they could do so. Applause
l.. , Rose, of Los Angeles, made some
remarks in favor of organization, but he
wanted to know what wereto be the detale
of operations. He advised caution in
methods. Let us get $500 carload rate
for all shipments, and the problem would
be at once solved
The Recommendation under considera-
ton was then adopted.
The remaining recommendations in the
report were then considered together, and
discussed in general way by large num-
Der of speakers.
No. was amended by adding at the close
these words, provided such contracts do |
not extend beyond one year"
In No. s there was quite discussion
concerning the division of profits, but it |
was finally passed, and all the recon-
mendations contained in the report were
adopted as amended.
Quite debate followed upon the general
plan and purpose of the organization.
A. T. Hatch said he was looked upon as
a sort Of obstructionist. He had been
frOwned down in a former Convention