The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1885-1921, 1885-06-23

question;
Mr.. Campbell do not care about press
ing it to any largo extent. / suppose Mr.
S2reckels does not know whether be has
large interest with the Government or not.
Now, Mr.. Spreckels, since this order OF
knighthood was conferred upon you, have
you not been designated in the island pa
pers there frequently es Sir Claus Spreck.
els Al have never seen It in the island
Odd you ever see the Hawaiian d.
rector the Honolulu Almanac and Direc-
tory Al have not.
Q--fhen yon do not kEow whether you
are there published as knight Of that or
der A.-NO. sir. do not.
TIRE OTHER REFIEERIEs.
O.-Now you are interested in the Oceanic
Steamship Company Al am.
Q-In this California Sugar Refinery
On the Barre Company Al am:
Q.-And in the Hawaiian Commercial
and Sugar Company A.-Yes, sir.
Q.-M ell. now. in the course or your
bushes you say you opposed the treaty
with the Sandwich islands Al did.
! opposed it on the ground that il would be
liable to destroy my business.
you, Of course. as an active. energetic
business man. took the most advantage OF
It that you could, did you nOtl
The Court-That is proper. IL Is every
Mr.. mp6ell-Now, your protest against
tho treaty. is it not published In the enron
lie Of Octob 25, 1881. in fulll just
look at that and see extract from
Chronicle shown witness. At may be
so. 1t ia so long 1 forget it. Those things
are so long that are published. suppose
that is it. That is my name there. L sup
pose that is correct do not know.
Counsel reads the prot at.
Mr.. Campbell Now, what has become.
since the treaty, of those Last three refine
rie5 referring to the racine. the Golden
Gate and the Bay sugar rehneries)l
Mr.. Taylor-We oh. ect to that That IL
clearly irrelevant.
Mr.. Lloyd suppose we have the right
to show the fact that no mas etfectually
souelched every refinery on this Coast tie
has either bought them out or closed them
up and he is the last OF the sugar party
himself He Is the monarch OF the Coast
on the sugar business. | suppose we have
a right to follow it up and show that these
sugar refineries have been closed and run
out of the market.
can it is the same thing that used to be
the Bay. The other. the Golden Gate. was
a small refinery, and ran erhaps about
ten OF, twe.vc thousand pounds day-a
little shanty out there that is closed out.
Odd Y buy them outi A.-No, sir;
they are not men enough to work sugar
re.inery right. They did not know enough.
They had to do it all with laborers. They
had no men in it that understood the bust
ness
CONTROLLING THE MARKET.
O.-Now l will ask you the general
question whether you have not for years
mainly controlled the sugar business here1
Al do not know what you mean by con-
o. Fixing prices. and 50 forth! Alt
is natural that we. having tho larger ro'
tnerics, they have followed me. 1t cannot
lie otherwise.
Q.-'That is what wanted to get at: that
you have had that control!
Mr.. Highton-He has not said that.
That is your own Interpretation.
Mr.. Campbell-That is my tnterprets'
ton. if you please.
O-Now, have you not had an arrange
ment with the American sugar refinery by
which they were limited in their produc-
ton of sugar to a certain number OF bar.
rails per day, while you on the other hand.
were allowed unlimited production A.
No sir, that is not true. The only thing
was this That the American refinery ran
one fifth OF this market and I four-tlfths.
My opacity is about ten times theirs, and
they have more than the advantage.
Q.-And have you had no arrangements
at all with theml Ayes. sir; We had
that arrangement; that they should run
one fifth of the market
Q.-They should run one-hfh and you
run the other four-tifths A.-Yes. sir.
Q.-Now was not that really. practically.
a hxed number Of barrels per day A.-No.
sir it was not ixsd at all. Once in .
month or two or three months we would
balance. and if one ran ahead of the other
we stopped and would not sell until we
came up TO II.
O.SNow, in regard to the navigation. rs
between here and the islands. the freight
Ing business. have you not had pretty
rluch the control OF that for some ySaHs
vast
This question was argued at length and
bVerruled.
PERSONAL HONESTY AND CREDIT.
During the argument. Mr.. Highton said:
We stated in our opening that We had no
criticism to make upon anything that the
Chronicle has said relative to the reciprOc-
ity treaty between the kingdom of
Hawaii and the United States. 1t is not
true. as matter of fact, if understand
witness has been asked to state.
or has ever stated, that every
isolated fact which appeared in these
articles in the Chronicle was in and of it
self untrue. He has simply stated this:
That those charges of the ChT0RicIe which
involved accusations against his personal
honesty, his personal character. his per-
sonal credit and the management Of his
business were absolutely false. Now, then,
the other side, when they como down to
their croSS-eXaminatlOn, instead of touch
ing upon those material parts of the testi-
mony which have been ELECTED here by
the defendant undertook t select and seq.
regate a lot of facts in these articles.
which may DO true or which may not be
true. but which. whether true or not. are
absolutely lncGnsequentlal, and endeaV.
ored to direct their croSs-examination to
those immateriaI matters in other words,
reproducing, as l said before, through
their cross-cXaminatiOn, the very matters
which they have once asserted in their ar
ticles. Now we are here broadiy and dis
tiaCtly to meet the material parts of the
testimony To which this gentleman has
sworn. He has stated unequivooally. and
has thrown down tho gauntlet to Thorn
in manner not to be mistaken,
that wherever they have made 9
statement in their articles which touched
honor hnnaafu I'm bH
transaction OF business. his observance OF
those principles and those rules by which
business men are actuG ted, which have at
tackled his personal purity. which have as
sociated him with the lowest crimes which
could be committed by q human being,
that wherever those things have been
said, thlse accusations are absolutely and
Gods name, if the other side are capable
and have the power by any process of
cross-examination to show the truth OF
those charges, let them do so. There is no
objection upon our side. But we do OBJ
ject to their constantly running OFF upon
immaterial matters as to which this wit
ness has not even been specifically at
tackled, and attempt in that way to leave
out OF sight those material statements
which constitute the bulk Of the testimony
OF Claus Spreckels.
FKEIGHTING TO HONOLULU.
The witness was then asked about his
connection with the Oceanic Steamship
Company and its freighting business with
Honolulu. He replied :" Am a stock
holder In the Oceanic Steamship Com
pauy, of which John d. -pre, kels & Co.
are agents. Am q director OF he COM
pany. The business is in he hands of my
sons. People generally ship in ;he vessel
that makes a trip at half the tins OF
another vessel. / he Oceanic Ompany
have both steamers ana sailing vessels.
Very likely the company does The larger
portion of the freighting buyiuess oetwccn
here and the Islands. purchase sugar OF
other p. l.tRtion-owners.
Q.-lou advance them money. don't
youl
Objection sustained.
Q,-DO you ship the sugar you purchase
on the vessels of John ID. Spreckels & Goa
Objection sustained.
Q.-Was not q majority Of sugar i'm
ported from the islands prior to the treaty
under 10, Dutch standard
Objection sustained.
Q.-Since 1880 has there not been q pro-