New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-07-06
HORSES FOR CARRIAGE USE.
HIGH PRICES FOR FINE PAIRS.
A WANT FELT RgCEYTLY-EFFoRrs TO SUPPLY IT
nKrrER CLAssEs or MORsEs SOUGHT.

TRIBUNE reporter. "Ah | there you touch me upon
! n tender spot IL is subject upon which nave
| expended much thought. When first came from
! England to this country, found that revolution
W as beginning in the minds of people win regard
! to carriage horses. There had been tiino wheh
carriage sorse simply slow trotter. Inc
| horse dealer to whom man won't for pair OF
! horses for his wifes brougham would order out q
! buggy, clap in two trotters, and whlrl his custo-
mer of behind them Now, he would say. my
dear sir will guarantee that this pair will go to
llght wagon milo IN three minutes there or there
! abouts and will guarantee the pedigree OF both
| of them They will go kindly in brougham mar
| ness, or any kind that il not too heavy. Ihero
are still places whore they continue to do TINS KIND
| Of thing. But, observe, a carriage horse and
trottcr arc two different animals and belong
! to two great divisions. What a man
wants in trotter is trotting speed. what
he wants in carriage horse is primarily beauty oil
form next good action of knee and shoulder;
next endurance and moderate speed. He does not
want an animal that go like the wind for a
minute and half and then fail to pieces, lose his
| action hits his fel0cks and crawls along anyhow
for the rest of the journey. An American trotter Is
most wonderful and beautiful creature thing
! that all horse-men must admire, and whose value
| all recognize. But he is not carriage horse
GETTING GENUINE CARRIAGE HORSES.
Now this fact had been realized when L came to
| this country, and people were casting about for
ways of obtaining real carriage horse. Some
went to England but soon discovered That the
! English were unhappy about carriage horses them
selves. In some mysterious manner tho breed Of
carriage horses there had been allowed to deterio-
rate and the willy French had bought up the best
of the brood mares, and were breeding them to the
French coaching stations. There adbcen in Eng
land a recognized breed of carriage horses called
the Cleveland bays because of their bay color and
black points he stud book had fallen into disusc
but it has now been revived aud IN few years there
will be supply of lhese famous Yorkshire horses
NOT ABLE TO FILb ORDERS.
Tho Cleveland BAYS are particularly for heavy
vehicles. landaue barouches. brouehams. charots,
and porhaps for suspension spring victotias. They
arc seventeen hands high have small, symmetrical
heads we'll act upon afrhing heckH, Their ti"ttlhg
action IL from the ahuulder, which aopeH grahdlv,
aud They are full Of courage ahl endurance Ihey
will whfl of heavy bHfouchc at Hphhkihs pace
aud viii maintain u until thoy come to thoif Jour
ney'a end They have handa0nn black ihaheH ana
talls aud are about IN line looking animals IN har-
ness ~ u man would desire, Such pas would
cost from ~ 900 to $4,000, | have outstanding
commissions from several gentlemen 10 purchase
Cleveland bays at any prioe-tye, six or even
seven thousand dollars for extra animas-anll
have never been able TO ill the orders. American
horses for family coaches have generally large
heads badly set upon ungainly neoks. Dahlman
has been importing French coaching stations To iin-
prove the breed, and in Ohio and Illinois and TINS
state they are trying the experiment on large
scale But it is in my mind, and cannot get RID
of the Impression, that the Fronch coaching stallion
has in him too much of the Percheron Or eart-horse
strain and that his progeny will be soft aud wanting
Iokl For
William K. Vanderbilt one of these French horses,
Incroyablc, q three-year-old, sixteen hands high,
gentle as kitten. and the handsomest horse Of the
kind ever saw in my life. Pierre Lorillard has
beeu experimentng in another direction with great
intelligcncc and as | should think, with good hope
of creating n true type of carriage horse In this
country He selected his best carriage mares and
bred them to thoroughbred stations and will pick
out the best carriage mares among the progeny and
breed them to thoroughbreds and so on. imagine
that in the development of the Cleveland bays a
similar plan was adopted, although VIC have no
record of it, If he succeeds, the country Will be
under signal obligations to him.
AMGHTER CLASS OF HORSES.
When we come to lighter vehicles, such az T-carts,
dog-carts phaetons. etc. VIC find in this country an
excellent class of animal ranging from 1913 to 10
hands high. These come chiefly from Kentucky,
thouqh there are good horses of this class from
New-York. Michigan and Vermont, There are more
of them III Kentucky, and AS a rule they snow more
This is because they have good strain IN them OF
the thoroughbred. If tie Kentuckians had selected
large roomy mares, Pierre Lombard has done,
they might have created the wshcd-for American
They are just the animals for fourth hands, or
sonal driving these are all that can be desired.
carriage horse. But for all purposes OF per
breaks If You take pair, say IL B for the wheel,
and 10 10 for the lead you can have az pretty o
team for a shay as can he got IN the worlH. par
-iara "A
twenty-five hundred according to quality. f9r
ladies' phetons we want lighter animal stiil
ranging from 1913 mp to 10 hands IN height Moth
inc can b. better for the purpose than thorough
bred TOO light for racing purposes, well broken IN
and with good trottlng action. Beauty OF FORM IL
most essential here. but we get that, OF course,
in The thoroughbred lady who drives skele-
ton phetOn wants horses wit small heads archlng
necks. silken names, flowing tails, satin skins. 1
large mobile noStrs, and ardent eyes. Kentucky
is the place to look for such animals ana they cost
anywhere from 81 900 TO 81 800. If you want to
know anything about American uotters ADVISE
you TO see Dan Mace"
WHAT FAST rRoTTERs COST.
Dan Mace was not at home but one of his lieu
tenants SAID:
IL suppose if any young fellow with lot of
money in his pockets wanted to buy fast trotter
to give his dust the rest of the boys on Seventh
ave he would come here to Dan Mace's; for what
he doesn't know about trotting stock isn't worth
knowing During the season we have from sixty
TO 100 horses to sell on commission, anu VIC nave
YEARLY sale Of trotting stock man needn't pay
so very dear for fast trotter' unless he wants
something that can 90 faster than 2:30 If he is
satisfied with an animal that can trot somewhere
in the neiehborhood of 2:l0 he can get ono for q
81, 900.
"You see all the farmers all over the country are
irving to raise fast trotters If they get colt that
in his sixth year can do mile in 2:25, aud ne is of
a fashionable Observation-Disclosures Ethan Allen
,n.Is that can make 2:35 ara very much moro nu-
mcrous than those that make 2:25, there Is
great disproportiOn in the relative value. one Is
cheaper than lie ought to be- and the other dearer:
II IL the snnpY that does tins. lsidoro Canheld