New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-07-03
TIE TALK IN CHICAGO.
HOPES AND FEARS OF MANY CANDIDATES
ppfi.Ra HAVING IT All MS OWN WAY AT fhfH-
rNT-CLpVELANp's wFAkNfSs'
my rEipatlFa TNI rRtseNtl

- having n their own way here all the week and
par,icnarly tho Mcdonald and Butler men Ihero s pW
little doubt that Butler believes he Ia going Ia We hom-
mated The over-sanguine expectations OF his agents
who have heen through the Western States "a far as
Kansas and Colorado may have deceived him. out tese
also insist that Butler, after prolonged contest VIII ge'
the nomination letter came here last hishV lroin
Buffers private secretary saying that CleVeo "oui"
not get one vote from either New-York or Cohheeuo
Another of Buffers staff sent similar word ana MI
Plymp;on who represents Butler here told me no ne
lcved that Clevelands name would not be menuoheu ID
the convention would be proposed for the nomh"-
tion and that he was virtually withdrawn Amazed NJ
This Abatement incurred IL General Butler and Governor
Cleveland were acquainted with each other
"Yes." the reply. they know eaeh o'her' o" "'0
not very wen acquainted"
DESTROYS TO sound this matter, which is rc"',y -"
pivotal question now inquired If the Brooklyn delesa-
ton in New-YOrk was against Cleveland $3.50
"spNdly against him." said General Buffers lflenu
Our information Is that since the State convention te
delegates have poled each other and that CeveandS
souarelv beaten in New-Yolk. John c. Jacobs WOMB
never go Chicago in favor of Flower II Boss NcL"s
Lin had ordered him TO go for Cleveland"
Notwithstanding this positive expression soheno"
Cleveland is in the air here. The Republican news
papers, including The Tribune to-day sara 'hau IL "s
cleveland against the field find on inquiry among the
Republican leaders that they not afraid o. Cleveland
and on many grounds would rather see hin nominated
than Mcdonald Hoadly OF Thurman YetwheneVerl hhu
Democrat disengaged and not in the h'ere'. u So"o
other candidate his mind is first upon Ilideh anu ueA' VII
Cleveland For instance General Bragg OF Wisconsin
who made the celebrated speech from the Democratic
aide against rebel appropriations said that he "anteu
20 see Tammany Hall and good dead OF ring pohtcs
thrown ont of the party. Wisconsin is fun OF "erh's
and the hope that these may be annexed from s!"''
with the otendoTfier and Woerishoher organ III NV"
York animates Mr. Bragg. He however demands lrec
trade plank in the platform and says that the hgn
lia
their nrincinlee and not on their candidate ana ta
therefore the platform ought to he Tor irce tre an" ne
SAYS that amount OF revenue reform VIII ne enough o
him Mr. Flo wer has q brothern law III wisconsin "
the name OF George who has been pulling wires lor HILL
BUTLER STRONG IN THE LARGE CITIES
,,. p,,,er boom has strong hold in all large towns OF
,,e Vost os Of the East 1t strong III Wisconsin
a. In Ct Paul and Minneapolis In Chicago IL seenis W
courise about thirds OF all the Democrats anu
the Mayor who Is noted for his resisting quaI'ios
slighty bends before It, Butler through MS IL"
descent his prominence In the war and the hostV nc
has had from the selestecming classes, has graoua
made his way up the labor organizations 10 inc ri
substre;um of the Democracy and nave peeh li'cIo
sa hi, Headquarters here where have maue TWO 'ss'
A., soc inc curios kind Of men who come in all for But
lar A good many Of them arc New-Engisho anu
.snecally Massachusetts, Yankees Temporarily engageo
ont west I saw Mr. Pcinee there yesterday, VINO IL
uniting MP the great building here TO cost quarter u
million dollars for Hiram sibey Dmlelhe ec'ou
stories high He told that when the men were pam
IN last saturday ne said Has General Butler any
friends herei Let his friends hold NJ their hands anu
no savs that every hand the 80 men WAS heu up
nn,ler unque sonably represents n positive force ~
d,acrcn from the coque'tsh maids who are Neehlng we
,,ouin stiun without thc courage to say So WI" wv WV
,p.nts " nmu.emcnt ana good humor have g'the''"
arouud his nnmc There "a mure curiosity 70 see YIN
,ho,o than n,v mnn In the country. lie II coming III
.,,io slouoh hat and all aud hAA cho'cn nlgh' WIN
.harncterisiir shtew1ncsv when tho lRhoel' nave V
holiday, saturday lie comes In at n time Wnon u''P WV
40 ou aud welcome him. Ills very presence ~ 'ho Oon
yen,on T. going 10 bother to the delegates an" JOY
% the gnilcrc, tia, he has made h's commune
fiona with Randall ana others 10 defeat the nee trooo
platform. -...,,.,,
rRrr TRADERS MOUND 70 ne AfrNfCAItp'
On the other hand, the free traders led by 'nlno III"
Norrtson OF IN, state who have already suffered con
.ideray for their ultraism are determined 10 DE- Nppo
oiated ssihe convention Morrison who seems 10 nave
,esous nature Is Just now surrounded by his opponents
Carter Harrison Springer and General Palmer hfNe h'o
condition AGAINST him to keep him from ge''hs 'no
Vie, Presidential nomination amt If necessary TO oe''
his platform Harrison is aud ont against Irec U"ue'
Palmer was free trader, but the Presidency mas more
attractions TO him than any old principle
II "a noticeable that since Blaine has peeh homn"'eu
free trade as science disappeared from he ChoaSo
press especially ,irom The Tribune, which was It's chcl
advocate paper has been more or less irce ti
paper since 1865 and it reads like good ola wing
o,san i'm the time of Henry Clay. Carlisle and Morrson
are both coming here, Carlisle not delegate ana
sop desperately afraid he will not be- because theIe Is
bushel Of candidates for delegate -atarye RON Ii'hos
Potter Palmer and Trumbull both want It, Harrison
wants It, and Harrison neuenants desire IT, cmei Oh
whom are Mcdonald and MaoKin. Mcdonald was lohS
&he chief gambler OF Chicago and has accumulated an
estate bf quarters OF million MacKlh was HIS
bookkeeper has turned out to be the most Prohoe'
xolitioian In the Northwest especially In CITY tninss
a cp,ious sectacle is presented Of the Democracy OF
To- onina
,rrovS for Governor while his campaign is directed al
Peoria nv Mcdonald and Maekn. asked an edltor from
Liver Illinois yesterday n Harrison would be beaten 10y
10000 votes IKE Trumbull
sYes." said he nearer 900 than 10000"
,T1s was a Butler man. He comes from Centiaia and
~ o,d me that he had 125 men a club for Ben But
ler If he was nominated here and If Butler was not nom
mated the whole club would be for Blaine NO" ana
then see some business Democrat who expresses inc
hone that some old. fashioned Democrat like thurman
may get the nomination. one OF 'he 1ehes' mo' !"
Chicago said 70 me yesterday;
They talk about Cleveland polling such big vote
hut about all the vote likely to get would 80 10
Thurman and under his name we would nave none OF
1h.se fusses about Tammany Hall, the Irish vote inc
lasor question the tariff His character would saho
Sor the platform
urvyIANp The CAUSE OF APPREHENSION.
That Cleveland is the common cause OF apprehension
,an from the fact that the friends OF all the other csnd
90. are willing TO listen assaults upon him AT the
crescent moment he Is friendless here, except among
those who want nobody but him. The Mcdonald mel
IN Al, s.ill and hear him described hangman, as nc
Democrat AS n trimmer, prohbitionist etc, and
.mile In some You will see group OF the sup
porters OF Bayard Mcdonald Palmer and Butler Joining
An AN encouraging raid Cleveland After the CONVEX
ton n may be all friendly again. Nearly every Democrat
here recognizes Blanos force OF character management
and career aud predicts very close campaign Nearly
the first thing yOuapproach the agents oil hes'
candidates Is: I'VE going 10 have hot campaign
and he will say: ave want the best man we can ss' u
pull through. an1 that Is - MS man OF course
RANDALL A nuGpEAR TO FREE TRADERS