The Hawaiian gazette., 1884-06-25


did not see any, Then be learned that The Minis
ters had been only using blaak cartridges. Later
no, however, thew DISCHARGED a lot Of turkeys.
bustles, oozeis aud Newspapers fIauqhtorl Tbs
Ministry s1T tint the Report 4 personal and that
the COMMITTEES was engaged l91king for 4 small
nesile in big haystack. Committee found some
thing more important than a needle. they found
that sSS4 had been spent twice. Do not think
that His Excelloncy viii attempts 10 deny, that
after We discovered The deficit, the money vas
paid quickly, BY him into the Treasury. he says
We split spears Of arasss, yes We found the sum
Of S5Q'-which Is IN his pnssession yet. LAP
plausel How many places Of deposit are We 10
have for pubic funds. We found that balance in
the hands % Sccretary Webb and be has Il yet
Proper for The Minister 10 order the payment Of
that money into he Treasury without further de-
lay. The Minister OF Einance hsd said that long
ago mountain iebor1d and brought forth
mouse; surprising nat Il did IN this case Tie
mouse is Ss2-thaf amount HIS ErcpIlency caunot
account for. Probably cat vas around and
pOunced on that mouse. iLalghterl Think that
the cat that got 500 took Sc. tApplansel The
Attorney General said something yestertlay, about
a lamepair Of shoes, let thu lame Ministry keep
their lame shoes. Tho next speaker. the Minister
of Intelor said but little, but in 1878 when be vas
then chief CLERK Of the Department. over which he
now presides, there vas great many items OF un-
explained balances IN his time. ReiatiTe TO the
Auditor General It was supposed that be would Be
ehsck on the wrong expenditure Of public
monies but be slsnsed 70 have fallen in viii he
Representative Hitchcock said the question vas
were the statements correct or not. None Of the
Ministers answered Ihs important questigns they
have picked Mp trivial things Eks turkeys. cnrsgtz
&c, and leave the greater questions alone Is this
done with an intent 10 blind the Representatives
In 1913 the Minister Of Foreign Affairs was Chrir-
MN Of the Finance COMMITTEES, almo-. he flsnti-
cal Questions came up at that time md bow did
be answer them7 No moneys should be used
without the consent Of the Le-islatureir Six
years, however, makes a great deal OF difference.
Tbs reason why no books were sept inths In
$4,000 was one Of the questions which the Minis
ter Of that Department had failed to touch on.
What did the Minister Of Foreign Affairs say Of
such matters IN 1873 and regarding the sane De
partment. Read the Report Of the Finance Com
mittee Of that year. But six years. sometimes
makes heap Of difference in a mans conduct
he questioned why transfers from one department.
to another should be allowed. No use saying that
the Legislature has power when the Cabinet has
such powers How about the large suns drawn
out at the close Of the fiscal year. The Ministers
do not deny the statements, they say nothing.
Must We therefore regard the Report OF the Com
Representative Nakalska said that he was the
mover Of the motion TO indifnitaly postpone, his
reason being that the Committee on the last page
Of the Report say that It does not cover all the
Transactions and that they simply take rest y
This shows that the Report is incomplete The
Committee are not satisfied themselves. After a
faint attempt to explain away some Of the small
amounts Contained in the Report the gentleman
ended.
Representative Kauhane was glad the member
from Molokai had given attention to small
amounts, but he seemed TO have forgotten all
about large amounts. great deal said on both
sides. Have heard that some members came here
fully prepared 10 oppose the Government aud
oppose the Throne. Is il to be said that the mem
bers of the Committee who made up this report
are the ones opposed to the Government or Il il
IN wi qaet a. oufa n
doing and approve Of their actions7 He did not
come opposed 10 the Government. In reading the
report through, find that the Ministry have spent
a great deal of public money during the last two
years; some wasted fOolishly The Ministers
should look out for the best interests of the
country. Noticed one loud talker yesterday and
heard about things being conducted in straight
| forward manner. Am not at all we'll satisfied in
regard to the way in which the business has been
conducted. Oilers were made low in regard to
contracts and refused; came across numerous con
| tracts made with one man; the name Hayseld0n
occurs on almost every page; think that II con
tracts had been given out differently, money would
have been saved to the government; the Ministry
have wasted and squandered money; this is worse
than stealing; anyone will see that the Ministry
have caused loss 10 the country of over $50 900;
when the time comes for the payment Of bonds,
| they will have to be paid with gold coin. So, by
this foolish contract entered into by this Cabinet
we only get 81 cents on the dollar, but when bonds
become due VIII have TO pay 100. II we pay
| interest this money, this coinage, that Is
another loss. That IS not all the oss the contract
provides for another eOnmission b the party who
had the money coined. 50, If all items were
figured up il will be found that Il cost one half
the amount to get II here. Don't that look like
| showing the country ahead? Before We got
through We may have V pay heavily Know that
/ the Government intended to issue bonds for this
silver money. If not for friends of Hawaii, they
would have done So (Applause.)
What does all this action ON the part Of the
Ministers mean who are they working for II
they go on as they have say that they feather
/ ing interests OF some one not in the kingdom.
Ministers cannot serve two masters cannot serve
/ the Government and that other man too. Il may
| be said that | am opposed TO the Government
| But, ask any fair.minded man If he thinks that
/ am opposed to the best interests OF either King
or country. (Applause.) An answer in the afiirma-
| tive would be from an insane man. Simply this
have large property, place 1t in the hands OF
member, come round every quarter to examine
accounts Of my business, On the first quarter the
/ member says 20, you must not examine, You arr
going against your own interests What would
be thoughtr i suppose II the Ministers heard mS
espouse their cause and say that the Finance Com
mittee had no right TO examine they would IN
doubtedly say he Is good representative and II
favor of the interests of the country" But
think that the interests Of the country demand a
change, think it is unsafe to have the Government
III such hands any longeI. (Applause) .r.t
Rep. Palohau at 40. Aduiires the Report Of thl
Committee Of Finance II the Ministers are con
tinued in office think this lesson to them to chang
the Committee visited the different Offices. In th,
Interior Department it may be noticed that IN,
Committee mention that errors in that Depart
ment were caused by the employment Of boys
then such are the ones to blame, those boys, moi
the Minister. (Lauehter.)
Thought that If money was drawn out by Cab
inert resolution and spent say that it was per
fectly right. Money for bridges not thrown away
we'll spent. Bridges built in Kauai had secures
his reelection; the cases of gin sent down for tn
other candidate did not do much good. daughter
Intended to have more bridges built and be agan
reelected: IIaughterl The present Ministry ar
good Ministry they have brought Sisters o
Charity here who nurse the sick. l say the Mi
nistry have spent money for the people not 10
themselves. Committee had seven weeks TO pre-
pare report; the Ministry should have same tim
to answer Heard Of money being spent for tur
keys regarded as too high, turkeys sometime
high Thought that If the Ministry had don
wrong they would not now be in their places 4
face the. Assembly. No use talking about th
money stated to have been paid twice so long a
the money has been returned. The item Of s.
which the Secretary has, has nothing 10 do will
the Minister, that belongs 10 the Secretary 10 &C
count for. Laughter
Representative AhOlo said In comparing tn
| report of Minister Of Finance with report Of Com
mittee of Finance find that sopo NCneys hai
been expended. The Minister States that be doe
| not try to conceal it. The Committee states OF
i expended On page 30, Minister of Finance re
port, mention is made Of the amounts Righ
TO take time and scrutiuize closely. We shout,
not hurry. Was In favor of placing the Bepor
Of the FINANCE Committee ON tho table.
| At 4.55 representative Cecil Brown moved tina
the Committee rise and report progress and as
leave 20 sit again. Carried and approved BY As
sembly. Adjournment was had at O'Clock unit
10 am. on next day.
Thirty Eighth Day, June 21, 1884.
The Assembly convened at 10 A. m. Prosidep
Rhodes IN the chair. Prayer and reading the min