St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-07-09


out any rules.
The Chair-That is a question for the conven-
ton to decide The motion is to adopt certain
rules. The original resolution and the motion to
lay on the table has reference only to the amend
ment. We have rule The object of the
motion is to constitute rules.
Cries of ''Mr. Chairman and question"
The Chairman-There is no debate to be al
lowed upon the motion to lay upon the table.
Mr.. Menzie, OF indiana moved for division
of the question
The Chauman-The motion is to lay upon the
table both amendments. The motion is for u di
vision Of the question.
Delegate-Read the resolutions. The sec
rotary did so.
The Chairman--Now gentlemen Of the con-
vention, motion has been made to lay upon the
table these amendments.
Several Dolegates--Mr Chairmani
The Chairman will not recognize you until
state the proposition. a motion has been made
by the gentlemen from Louisiana, to table both
amendments, pending which motion is made for
division of the question, which is always in or
der. The motion before the house, therefore,
now is shall the amendment to the amendment
be laid upon the table.
Mr.. Grady-I rise to ask question.
The Chairman-A gentleman from New York
wishes to ask question.
Mr.. Wallace, of Pennsylvania rise to par
liamentary inquiry, if the vote of the convention
be to lay these amendments upon the table, must
not the original resolution, according to parlia-
mentary law, also go to the table?
The Chalrman-I sustain the point of order of
the gentleman from Pennsylvania, that is if he
makes the point of order. / answer the ques-
ton. that under parliamentary usage, motion
to lay the amendments on the table, takes the
whole question, all would be laid upon the table.
The question is not subject to debate.
Mr.. Burke--Mr. Chairman. | withdraw my
Jnp and in, in itS 7 tha
question.
Mr.. Charman-Does the motion receive a
second?
Several delegates 81 second the notion
The Chairman-The motion to lay upon the
table has been Withdrawn; Il motion for the
previous question, which has received a second,
has been made.
Mr.. MenzicI withdraw the amendment to the
amendment.
Several delegates-Mr. Chairman
The Charman-No debate can be allowed upon
the motion.
Mn Menzie-With the consent of my second I
Withdraw the amendment to the amendment,
with the privilege OF reoffering it at subsequent
time.
The Chairman-Wth the consent of the
convention, whose property it is, it will be with
drawn.
Mr.. Francis, of Missouri move the previous
question on the amendment.
ton Is upon the motion for the previous
question. Shall the previous question be now
put:
Mr.. GradyI rise to point of order.
The chairman-The gentleman will state his
point of order
Mr. Grady-sly point of order is that, as I
made the motion, have a right TO the close of
the debate Laughter.
The chair-tnder the general rule as recog
nized i'll congress-here the voice of the chairman
was drowned in the uproar.
A delegate-I rise to another question of in
quiry.
The chair-What is the question?
A delegate-It is, sir, whether under general
parliamentary law a gag law, called the previous
question, exists
The chair-The motion for the previous ques-
ton must be recognized in this assembly. 1t is
with the convention to determine whether it shall
be passed or not, and under the operation of that
law, the chair cannot hear any further debate.
i Applause and cries of good
Mr.. Burke, of La.-If any delegate upon this
floor desires to continue the discussion, will
withdraw the motion.
The Chair-The motion is for the previous
question. Shall the main question now be heard
which motion was put to vote by the chair.
The chair-The main question is ordered. The
motion now is upon the amendment to the
amendment having been withdrawn. The ques-
ton was then put to vote and there being I'M
certainty as to the vote of the delegation, the
call OF the roll of states was asked.
The Chair-Let the roll be called of the states.
The question is upon the adoption of the amend
mcnt to the original resolution.
Senator Thurman, of Ohio Loud applause
greeted the speaker as he arose. Mr.. Chair
man, | rise 10 a parliamentary inquiry. Has the
vote been taken ON the motion for the previous
question!
The Char-The chair stated that the vote
upon ordering the main question has been put
and carried. The question now upon the adop-
ton of the amendment to the original resolgtion.
Senator Thnrman-I did not so understand it,
there was SO much confusion, but if the chair
rules that the question is on the amendment Of
fered by Mr.. Grady to the original, then have
no objection.
The Chair Proceed with the call Of the roll.
The roll will be called, and the chairman of each
delegation will announce the vote.
Mr. Eagle, of Arkansas-I rise to a point of
order.
The Chair-What is your point of order?
AT this point the confusion became so great
that it was practically impossible to determine
what was being done, and the chair insisted with
great tirmness that order must be restored When
comparative quiet was obtained the chair again
requested Mr.. Eagle to state his point of order,
and the latter rose and said; My point of order
is this. When the previous question had been
ordered that ii Is upon the original motion, cut
ting off all amendments and the question is now
upon the original motion.
The Chair override the point of ORDER it is
upon the main question first and then whether or
not the original resolution will be next put be-
fore the house.
Mr.. House, of Tennessee call for the read
ing of the amendment on which you are abeut to
vote,
The Char-rhe convention will come to order
and hear the amendment read The sergeant-at-
H. Ill. ..l.a
seats.
The secretary undertook to read the amend
ment offered by Mr.. Grady, but had only struck
the fourth word when the confusion became SO
great that 1t was impossible to be heard yard
from the stage. He begged the members TO
make less noise, but this had no effect, and the
secretary retired to his seat in deep disgust.
The chair then took hand at managing the
nnruly gathering, and stated rather vehement
ly'
Gentlemen of the convention, we cannot pro-
coed unless we have silence. a
The delegates reluctantly retired to their re-
spective quarters, and the secretary once more
emerged into sight and read the amendment, as
follows:
When the vote of a state as announced by the
chairman of the delegation from such state is
challenged by any member of the delegation,
then the secretary shall call the names of the in
dividual delegates from the state, and their indi
yidual preferences as expressed shall be record
ed as the vote of said state.
The Chair-Tte question now recurs upon the
adoption of the amendment which you have
heard read, Call the roll. The chairman Of each
state delegation, when his name is called, will
please announce distinctly the vote of his state.
State. Ayes. Noes. State. Ayes. Noes.
Alabama .-..15 Mississippi. is
Arkansas. So ID Missouri... "a
California. ...16 ~ Nebraska. 5 s.
Colorado. 4 9 Nevada. .. 8 -
Connecticut, /. 10 \ Hampshire 81
Delaware -. 6 New Jersey. .14s 4
Florida .....2 6 New York ~
Georgia. .....12 IL n Carolina. 10 ~
Illinois .....22 % Ohio. ..2a 21