St. Paul daily globe., 1884-10-21

commissioners last evening Messrs. DelanO,
Parker, Prendcrgast, Schek and Warner
were present, and there was quite a number
of spectators in attendance. On motion Of
Mr.. Parker the room was cleared of all per-
sons but the commissioners, the engineers
and the reporters, and afterwards Frank
Ford, Esq, who appeared as attorney for
Assistant Chief Hildebrand, and Geo. w.
Hall, manager of the st. Paul board of
Underwriters union, were voted to be ad-
mitted.
THE CHARGE.
The following general charge of Chief
Black against Assistant Hildebrand was then
read:
To the President and Board of Fire Commission
ers OF the City of ST. Paul.
GENTLEMEN: ! have to report that have sus-
pended Assistant Chief hiidebrand for cause, to-
wit: Neglect of duty, not working in harmony
with me for the interests of the department,
and don't want him my assistant any longer.
Yours very respectfully,
JOIN T. BLACK, Chief Engineer.
Chief Black was then called upon to par
Licuarizc his charges, which he did as fol-
lows:
First-Hildebrand left the city at p. m,
April /, and did not return until $50 a.. m,
April =, without PERMISSION.
Second-On April he was not at his
quarters when box 64 came in at 1918 D. m,
which box was in his entire charge and
went to the Harvester works fire in a hack.
Third That on the night of May he was
not at his quarters, but was in a room over
Libby's drug store, corner of Seventh street
and Broadway, when au alarm came in on
box 81, the next morning, at 2:07 o'clock.
Fourth That he vas absent from his quar-
tiers at midnight, June 26.
Fifth-That Sept. 13, during the chiefs
absence at Chicago, he was absent from
Central Fire hall at midnight, being in a
saloon at the corner of Seventh and Wa
couta street, and that he did not return to
said hall until l O'Clock on the morning of
Sept. Il.
Sixth-That he would not get up mornings
to attend TO business at times when ordered
by the chief
Attorney Ford, proposing as a friend to
introduce witnesses, President Delano de-
cidcd to initiate q court of justice as nearly
as possible in the hearing. There were but
two questions involved in the hearing and
these were, first, neglect Of duty, and, sec
GndIy, want OF harmony.
HmDEBRAND's REBUTTAL.
Mr.. Hildcbrand, in his rebuttal, replied
point by point to Chief Blacks charges, as
follows:
First-When he left for Minneapolis April
Black knew he was liable to go there and
be had asked his permission.
Sent his horse back to central hall by a
lincman from the depot, and admitted his
absence as charged.
Sccond-lIe admitted he was not in his
quarters when the alarm came in April s;
ON, Of CTR
and Broadway. Left orders where to drive
his Gig if fire broke out at his quarters
at 4. The driver not appearing
with the gig, he jumped into
hack with roundsman Hanft and after
wards caught on TO No. 2 hose carriage and
reachad the fire. He was out doing errands
ard was in no house. Absence admitted.
ThirG-Nhen the alarm came in on box
81 at 2 a. IN, May T. he was sleeping with a
gentleman friend a block and a half from
engine house No 4, and had received per
mission of the chief TO do so. Absence ad-
mittcd.
Fourth-Regarding absence from his quar-
ters at II O'Clock, June 2G, he could give no
definite answer. He could give no definite
reply. Did not remember it.
Filth-During the chiefs absence at Chi
cago, September l3, he WAS in the negnbor-
hood of a saloon on the corner of Seventh
and Wacouta streets, and absent from his
post at Central fire hall from 1920 to Il
o'clock that night, few moments of the
lime being in the lunch room of the saloon
which he visited to get friend out of bad
company there, of which fact he was notified
by a policeman and by telephone. He toos
a sandwich and beer in what was known as
The ''hole in the wall, - but associated with
no disrcputable characters therein BY q
rusc he got his friend and fellows he was
drinking with out of the place, but failed tC
get him TO 20 home, and leaving them, went
to tie Central fire house
SiXth-Hc never had an order from the
chief To get up at 9 O'Clock in the morning
and never received order from him he
did not obey. He recouutcd his duties in
delivering supplies as fire warden, and in
attendance .; fires, and stated that he alway:
got W when not having been to fires in the
night, from : 10 in the morning.
At this point the inquiries Of Mr.. Parker
brought out the fact that the engineers and
fremen, when not having been out to nigh
fires, were required TO get up at am, anC
that they could retire FOR the night after s
pm; that sleeping in the houses was mo-
allowed in the day time.
Chcf Black then cross examined Mr.. Hill
debrand. He said that Black said he might
go to Minneapolis on the day in question
which Black emphatically denied and citet
the conversation had after he had returned
did not know disreputablc females in tn,
"hole in the wall or out of it, " but admitted
his presence in the latter, the hour in whicl
he was there not being clearly defined.
Attorney Ford called Rouudsman Hauft
Scrgent Morton, and Officers Suitzer anC
Sullivan, all of whom gave Hildebrand
good character as to his morals, while Hanft
Swtzer and Sullivan corroborated his state
ments in regard to the ''hole in the wal
visit, the Harvester works fire. etc.
Chief Black called rs witnesses Capt
Burrell, of Engine No. 4. who never kney
anything very wrong of Hildebrand, but VIII
saw some disreuutable parties call for hin
once in front of the house in the winter lat,
at night. He was good firman.
Henry kjrch, frequeutcr of the ''hole il
the wall, ''was there Sept. 17,aud was feeliu
very happy. He remembered taking glas
of beer with Hildebrand there, and at Wink
ler's, near by. but did not see him in disre
putahe company.
Liuemm shannon testified to taking Hi
debraud TO the depot and TO a lady calm
for him at the central fire house.
{. y. Sullivan, discharged fireman
sw0re very positively that Hidebrand was
hale fellow well met in all things convivi,
NJ the "hole in the WALL but il was show
that there was bad blood bt
tween the parties, aud, asid
from the fact that Hildebrand was off dut
improperly no one attached much credibilit
TO his assertions. The statement that Hide
brand tried TO drag away Il friend from th
ranks OF the painting .he night red gentle
men went strongly to corroborate that he wa
in the "hole in the walr' for that purpose,
he asserted.