New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-06-24
MEXICAN PENSIONS BILL
TIE INGALLs AMENDMENT Defeated.
A LIMIT TO ARREARS OF PENsIoNs-soNE AMEND
MENTs ADoPrED--A FINAL VOTE TO DE TAKEN

dating pensions OF Uuon soldiers from date discharge
disability, and extending October l. 1884, the limi-
taton time to file applications for arrears OF pensions.
Mr. sherman much regretted be obliged 70 oppose any
proposition that was favored by the Union soldiers but
he knew tbs the soldiers themselves were divided about
this proposition His heart and his feelings were all with
the soldiers. and he appreciated the value Of their serv
ices TO the country for generations yet unborn Thls
proposition however. affected interests Of all the peo
pie Of the United satesno only Of soldiers, but Of cit
The Committee Pensions had not recommended
~ the House OF represent aves had not recommended
il. II based the motion OF single senator Inc
Commissioner Of Pensions had estimated that this propo
siJon would involve payment OF $40 100000 and, al
though Mr. Sherman thought this estimate too HIGH yet
the amount would unquestionably be very large
| lie asked Senators whether this was time so
greatly enlarge demands upon the Treasury When
the act SO passed a of plenty,
after specie payments had bcen resumed and when the
surplus In the Treasury was fast accommodating aud the
Treasury 10 overlooking. That time not this time
revenues rapidly falling of great shrink
Of values going and securities which In 1873
considered good were believed to be worthless
At time that doubt to be Of severity
we are called on TO pay out these enormous The
amount would deter him, If there was Legal
promise to pay-f promise had been made by the
United States the soldiers that would pay them
from the date OF their discharge this time In such
he would say, the winds with all considerations
severity upon people" But there no law and
moral ground for that argument to apply TO pen
siOns.
LIMIT TO ARREARS OF PENSIONS.
Mr. Sherman reviewed the legislation OF Congress to show
that limitations had always been recognized in connec-
with claims for The people Of the United
states believed that there should be limit 70 arrears OF
pension: that the principle Limitation mad been recog
nz.d by Of 1879 and acquiesced In by the sol
dcrs and the people NO government in the world could
endure. II it should attempt to pay all claims
and claims arising out OF tts misfortunes
Nj sherman put himself on the broad ground that
solde who had for twenty years waived his HSht
70 pension either because he dd not desire II or was
able right now 10 eHharis- his government lie be-
heved tho adoption OF this amendment woi be an en-
break down all restrictions all sorts OF claims;
lie wOIld ike Jo the pension law 80 Amended a. 70
provide for OF hardship 1ni 40 as ~ relieve them
from too strict a burden OF proof lie wa- Wiling tAat
the Government should ,,e-o the proof that man was
sound when he entered the service. Besides TINS Mt
sherman wished 20 some provision To recyr tIon
the charge the men ho went 10 her homes
in 500 He wIliu- 10 respond as quickly a. any
reasonable demand OF the Union soldiers. !rl
when an unreasonable demand was maze lot mem ho
would have the courage 10 vote against H. e'eh At tue
/ risk of being misunderstood
Mr. Conger sand there wero many thousand soldiers
WHO had mad no op ortmt' u pr-tht l"rI c'4lllS
reason m law or equity why they should he Disseminated
against. The aln- nd ncnt OF Ar lnBas was Ju7' au
/ equitable And should oe adopted
THE REroRT DI,COUG-EOUs.
Mr. ingalls, said that tie Senator from ohio Mr sher-
mani of the most eminent men OF the Repubi-
party he had been tlr finance minister Of the OnHe
states. aud had had respectable pretonsous to inc fes
dental candidacy II would therefore, be gra lyug To-
the country To understand that he mt sherman held
that peu,iI not contract but gfatuy OF cLdI
- which nm" United states could give OF withhold
,.,. tat we were authorized under the contract OF
enlistment treat the mus.aed ana disabled soldier a.
aud tramp who applies ut his area door Tor moGtiu
OF food 10 Keep hin nom st'yaOlon' ne W. ~,
think Mr sherman snllrey sincere As TO Tue uaukS,l
this measure % the Treasury Mt lngahs caleI VT,
sherman attention to The faet th A. 'ns ,c o
can National Convention this year declared for the iAE
Oio Nh -bcrmanj deliberately disayowed that decar-
ton ana declared thai not binding upon the con
called ON { to 9 7S5e on the question
PARTY PLATFORMS NOT GUIDES.
Mt sherman deprecated this Introduction Of party
platforms in the performance OF their
sworn duties. When lie remembered that the platform OF
the late Republican convention had been made up
few hour time. q sweteriug hot d1y by fory-tWo
men suddenly called together. OF whom never saw
each other before, he dd not thHk IL -hia We &
/ "a guide fOr senators On the performance OF tnei !
ace thar 10 should be ATTEMPTED 10 ma II guide nc
had much respect a. ANYBODY FOR ne oP" Oh IN, u,
under the Constitution must prescribe me aW' l'I ou
pTcdirament II he should present them their party
platforms the las twenty years a. guide ioi te
sTvya7 But Il senator Of the United states must have
better guide than hastily arranged party p'
lie Mr sherman would not Dee ralu =" 20 ~, az
crowd o. soldiers IN The United -sies ana maze tue
ment he bad made tod =. He believed t1at me !E
OF The prudent sensible candid anu iis men aiI'AS
'n rem S w"uG ~ 70 vo1e Mr. ingalls,. amendment was
! voted down-yeas, 20; nays, 80. The vote III det'i /
l. TStsTessr. Aui-on Blair Bowen, Cameron. OF Wis
cousin; COngcr, CulOm, Dawes oph RYE iiAr' IA
ri-on. ingalls, Laphan, Logan. Mcmillan AiLon"' Man
/ drrsOu. Miller. a. California; Miller OF N,W-loFA |
| Mitchell Palmer, Pike, Plumb, sawyer Van "ycA AMI
| YT@-Nes.rs. Allrich. Bayard. Beck, Brown. CAL |
Cockreu. Coke Coquit Lilni41s ar II 'r-,y -
lev Jackson. Jonas, Jones' Of I'orda; k,nna, LiiMar'
Hel ngr''n' idIg6erger 2au6nry -cNcI sherman
| slater Vance, Vest walker and " il.lams-5J
AMENDMENTS ADOPTED.
Amendments were offered by Harrison. wilson
and Mitchell and agreed to. Que Of Mr. Harris)n'
ar-naent. limited the Mexican pensions 20 soldiers OF
sailors who II not actually engaged in battle, were al
lc. fourteen DAYS Mexico Oh It's coast so A. not
10 give pensions 10 men who never lett home Ar VII
sons amendment provided that the per on- 10 whom the
law "t az 5etv recognized pv the general pension
laws OF the United states. II ia not however % cover
t- cases OF men who may have acquired such disability
! in f,h,lns against the Union Among Nj MtcheIs |
anndments wa the substance Of the pension BIZ intro
duced by Mr. CullOm early in May, providing pensions
for Invalid soldiers and sailors VINO nave
| OF the United states AFTER thren months. service
! in the OF the Rebellion and for tho widows ana De
/ Ucndent parents OF deceased pensioners
This amendment was adopted by vo's or Ok y i 10
| y nays, follows: ieasmNessrs AMree' AiHson'
! Blair Bowen Cameron, OF Wisconsin; oneer Gul0m'
| Dawes Dolph. FRYE Hale, HsWiey, Harrison ingalls,
| in1e. Of Nevada: Lapham. Logan, Mcmillan, Malone.
W5ndersop Mil,er OF California; Miller OF New-YurE;
seven Sherman and " ison-a2 Nugs-Messrs Bay ard.
Bccb, Call Cockre coke. Colquitt FAR arey SeorTe
Kenns. Mcpherson, Mlxey. Morgan. Penilci9n Pdsl
Ransom, ,aushury slater, vance vest walker anu
Mr. Vest said the object Of the majority Of the Senate
WINS evidently 10 XIII the bill not by shot but by
I'ilngI ~ down with amendInen's He could not for
encei b. the fact that tie war with Mexico which had
much glory American arns, wac democratic
Mr. Coprer supposed it therefore followed that the
for the Union had been Republican war.
Mr. Conger remarked that he would then say his