St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-07-07


district. They held an Indiana and Iowa
delegate at bay for half an hour. These
western men were seeking principally for in
formation. They wanted to know why
Cleveland could not be settled upon by New
York J. c. Seer told them why, in his
opinion He said New York could be carried
by Flower, Mcdonald, Gen. Palmer, Lyman
Trumbull, or by any good Democrat. 1t, how
ever, could not be carried by Cleveland. nor
any man who was the choice OF the Inde-
pendent Republicans. These independents
could not run the Republican party and they
had come over to the Democratic party to try
to run it. Cleveland had been elected by
Republican votes. There was no doubt about
that. because though he received 200, 900 ma
iority one year, the next year when the Re-
publicans made good nomination for sec
rotary of state their nominee was elected.
Cleveland, the delegate said, could not carry
New York. and all the delegates he had were
from Republican districts.
Headquarters were opened very rapidly
to-day. Mr.. Flowers friends took rooms at
the Palmer, in addition to those they have at
had already secured two Of the largest par
lors, one of them having been the Arthur
headquarters at the Republican convention,
and they attracted further attention to-day
by swinging monster banner across Mon
roe street. Delaware, Maine and
Illinois also opened their headquarters. More
of the Maryland delegation have arrived yet.
Very few of the Delaware and Gen.
Black was the only Illinois delegate to be
seen in the Illinois headquarters. Friends
opened the Maryland headquarters in expec-
tation of the arrival of the delegation from
that stale Oaegon has arrived, but the dele
gates had secured private rooms and did not
go to any hotel.
Col S. K. Donavan, the forerunner of the
Ohio arrivals, says the delegation from that
state viii come here equally divided, half the
delegates being for Hoadly and as many
against him. The choice of the anti-Hoadly-
ties, Col. Donovan represents to be Thurman.
Thurman, however. is not u candidate unless
the convention see fit to combine upon him ;
then he will accept. The fight in Ohio is for
and against Hoadly and meeting of the
delegates vii be held Monday morning to de-
eide who they shall instruct for. The oppo-
sition to Hoadly is to some extent opposition
to Mclean. Col. Donovan excuses him of
treachery and claims he went in under Thur
mans coat tais-''the most respectable
place. said Col Donovan She ever oc-
cupied.n
There was great deal of comment to-day
on the story that Tilden had decided to ac-
cept the nomination, and when he found
that he had majority of the electoral college,
Withdraw and present a substitute. This
was given newspaper circulation and OF
course it provoked talk, but the opinion was
unanimous which condemned it as absurd,
visionary and nonsensical. Henry Waiter
son expressed the most profound and abso-
lutely certain opinion that TT. Tilden was
gentleman as well as a patriot and states
man and that such proceeding ON his part
was impossible.
Gov. Morton said that the Republicans
had declared for protection and the Demo-
Gratis must do the opposite or be accused of
cowardice. If the Democrats had not the
backbone to do an original thing it was time
for them to break up. The ex-governor has
not abated his vigorous opinion on this sub
ject.
Mr. Morrison was asked whether he had
any approximate estimate of the tariff re-
form strength to offer. He said it. was a
little too early to make estimates
but that he could begin by counting
4L,o IF fba ,act
to support reasonable reform tariff princi-
pie. Many northern and New England del
egates would be opposed to it, but it was a
question to be decided whether the south
and west did not have votes enough to give
it majority. He did not hesitate to say that
the tariff issue was the real struggle before
the convention.
Tammany hall announced yesterday that
it was going to insist that two-thirds vote
be required in the New York delegation to
unity that delegation in favor of any one
particular candidate. ut is nothing but a
logical sequence of the rule of the Democrat
ic party, which requires a two-thirds vote in
the convention to nominate said a promi-
nent Tammanyite, who was talking to a
GLOBE correspondent
''But it has always been the New York rule
to allow majority of the delegation to die
tate the entire vote.'
''Yes, but the question has been never
raised before and we shall insist that two
thirds be required this time. A unit rule
demands that the faction which enforces it
represents the opinion of a clear majority of
the delegation, and if it has only bare ma
jority it fails of all its force. The Democrat
party has always demanded that its presiden-
tial candidate be nominated by a two-thrds
vote, in order to show that he is the choice of
candidate he should have at least two-thirds
of the state delegation, in order to show
clearly that he is the choice of the state. We
shall insist on the rule in New York and
think that the convention will back us up in
our demand"
''Of course they will demand it, said a
promin ent Cleveland man. when the question
was submitted for his consideration ''We
have been expecting it, but l will tell you
two things. First, the very fact that Tam
many demands two-thirds majority in the
delegation shows that they are hopeless of
obtaining a majority, and is clear acknowl-
edgment that Cleveland has that majority.
Secondly, we will have two-third majority
in the delegation for Cleveland, and We will
beat them on both issues. 1t has always
been the rule in New York that majority
rules, and the Tammany men know it. If
any one is not willing to abide by the will of
the majority he must step outside of the
party at once"
Treasurer German, of Tammany hall, the
next friend of John Kelly, was seen by a
GLOBE correspondent to-day. 81 have moth
ing personal against Gov. Cleveland" said
Mr. German ssand no one did.more to eject