New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-04-25
AFTER-TALK AT UTICA.
HOW LEADERS VIEW THE RESULT.

DELEGATES CAPTURED FROM BLAINE-THE LAca
or ORGANIZATION LOSES HIS FRIENDS CONTROL.
tFRoM SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT OF Tng TRIBUNE
UTICA, April 2i.-Hany OF the prominent dele-
gates TO yesterdays convention remained here until
to-day They spent the time, before the departure
of the noon trans, in the corridors of Baggs Ho-
tel, phlosOphizlng on the result. Their comments
were of tho most varied character.
partaking largely of expressions of regret on all
sides thar the outcome had not been different
The Blaine men d. not think that a full exhib-
tiOn Of their strength in the convention was made
That is no doubt true. A considerable majority u
the delegates were friendly to Mr. Blame. Looking
back over the contest now, it is nos
difficult to how easily the
convention might have been carried for him, If rho
efforts had been made in his behalf made
to defeat him. In fact to give his friends a good
working majority in the Convention only required
that the votes should be held of
lie egates who had stated their intention
to vote for Blaine and who were elected 10 repre-
sent Blame constituencies. That enough of those
votes taken away to give the combination
control due in part TO the lack OF organization,
and IN part probably to the forbidden aud abhor-
rent forces" winch some of the Administration
leaders knewso well how TO USE
When the vote on te nporlry chlirnan was az
n0unced the Arthur leaders were surprised They
anticipated much larger majority for the I'd
munds candidate. They set abont 10 secnrs
enough votes to make sure Of majority
for the Edmund3 delegate5-at large, knowing that
they could not hold all the votes they had on tho
question of temporary organization How they sue
ceeded in securing votes which had been pledged 10
the Blame leaders, only be known to thcm-
selves. Bat they did 50, AMI secured enough Blaine
votes to retain control OF the convention by sen-
der majority.
The Blaine delegates lacked the discipline AM
organization wnch was used 50 effectively on tho
other side. 1t was the difference between machine
and anti-nachnc, between men who came
here to represent the freely expressed
VIII Of Republican voters, and men who represented
political leaders. On the Administration side three
four leaders were able to speak for the entirs
Arthur delegation OF IoJ men. Az O'Clock IN tho
morning when these SO delegates we're, with few
exceptions, asleep, scattered over the city, those
tnrce or four cadcrsat the head Of whom stood Mr..
Warren and Mr. O'Brien were able to go TO tho
handful of Edmunds men andnegotate an uncor-
dtional surrender Of the entire Arthur delegation.
Not murmur was heard from the Arthur delegates.
They swallowed what Mr. Warren said was
a bitter pill" struck their cOlors and surrendered
unconditioDally to an unorganized force not one
third as great AZ their own, And they furnished
the leadership for the new army
No such action was possible with the Blaine dole-
ga,es. They were without organization and there
were 90 many leaders TO reach any quick cou"ln-
sion. Their leaders made the fatal mistake of not
ascertainlng early their exact strength, and thea
gong to work to supply any deficiency
They frittered away valuable time,
and lost by desertions. At least
that is the criticism freely made here by men
The Administration men came here knowing their
exact strength; They then set 9Poai t. capture
such Blaine delegates as they could. and to pledge
as many rs possible Of the Edmunda Llcn not 10
make any combination that would not give them
al four deegateS-at-large. I'm thIs way, Tor N
stance, the Livingston delegates were pledged,
which prevented them from voting as
dld THEN natural leader, Congressman Nadsworin.
Not knowing exactly how many delegates tlcY
could hold Blame leaders failed 10 see the n.-
ccs~ity early enough Of making NlSlon 10 se'ura
cooperation with those Edmunds delegates Who
did not want % nc. with the Arthur men. ANY inns
before midnight of tuesday a Blanc-EdMmds
combination could have been formed hy giving tho
EdmuudS men two representatives. 81 their own ~
lection on the ticket
Congressman Wadsworth. sincere Edmglds
man. Gle,ses his belief that the alliance here BE-
tween the Edmunus aud Arthur men viii do moro
harm than good 10 Mr.. Edmmd~'s chances az Chg
cagO. Mr.. Erwin. and other EdDun'i, delegates,
have expressed tie same opinion; Hence, even tno
Edmund, men ar not satisfied with The Ic>uf.
JUnn J. O'Brien says that the Arthur Een mao
the best of a bad situation tor th'm. DcNut =.
W MutGler says tudt Ne never saw Si'I Il oI VI NlH-
guscd dmenaS those who took part III the convent .0a.
MI Cregan says that the election of tour Rev cuue
and Civil Service Ieiormcrs, one oi WhDn Is FfV.
hbitioniSt, to represent tine Republican party Ok
this state at Chicago, looks to hW Ike turning .
serious thing into a farce. Mr. Warren character
izcd them As four cranks. General sharpe asd
Revenue Collector smart, each of whom loSt his
place on the State Committee, looked particularly
detected rs they remarked III common" We aee
nothing for Arthur here
senator Miller said that the result could
only strengthen Mr.. Blame, AZ showing
to the country that he was the choice % IL
least onc-half the RepubIcans of tHs State, 2,
against all other candidates. General NcC0oh ant
other Blaine leader, talk in q similar way. Sena'0r
Brdsall said: If we had pnt straight oppoNi@rr
ticket before the convention, with two tdmunds
men on il, we would have beaten the combination.
As Il Blaine man say hat we lost d. bad manage