St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-07-09

land decided by majority of five to vote as a
unit on the second ballot for Cleveland 1t was
stated in very positive way, however. that the
encouragement which the Thurman movement
had received would impel his formal nomination,
and that the speech would be made by Gen.
Breckenridge, of Kentucky,
AT least dozen Ohio delegates declare openly
they will not vote for Thurman. No caucus
vote of obligation ON presidential preference has
yet been held, but from various delegates 1t Is
learned that Ohio stands 25 THURMAN to Il
Thurman. This estimate is strenuous1y denied
by the Thurman supporters who claim 20 votes
The nti-Thurman element in Ohio are uncer-
tain whom they shall support. Indications to-
night point to their casting at least portion OF
their vote for Hoadly, whose name will be put in
nomination if Thurman's friends insist ON pre-
senting the latter's name. After Hoadly, the
votes on Ohio will probably go to
Cleveland.
Ohio holds caucus in the morning before en-
tering the convention. Thurman's friends to-
night state that many southern delegates have
declared their intention to support him. 1t is
therefore probable that Thurman name will be
presented no matter what the outcome of the
caucus.
The committee on credentials appointed by
the national convention met tonight in the
rooms Of the Missouri delegation to act upon the
credentials of various delegations The contest
in the Massachusetts delegation was made in one
of the districts, and the contestee and contestant
were notified to appear before the committee at
an adjourned meeting to be held in the morning
The resolution introduced in the convention
by Senator Voorhees,, granting full membership
to delegates from territories and District of
Columbia, was taken and the committee from
territorial delegations were invited to appear be-
fore the committee and present their argument.
Samuel Ward. of Montana, VIM. Dickson and E.
d. Wright District of Columbia, made argument
on the rights of territories to representation and
a voice in selection of national rulers and the
committee unanimously resolved to recommend
the passage of the resolution to the national con-
vention.
The entire California delegation visited the
Ohio headquarters, and Mr.. Turpey, of Califor-
mia, Speaking of his state, said, that if Ohio
people would abandon the candidacy of Mr..
Hoady and accept in his place Mr.. Thurman,
the Pacific coast would guarantee to them solid
vote and victory, which he believed would not
only include California, but the entire Union. He
said in conclusion that ''with Thurman's candi
dacy the Democratic party cannot be beaten" Mr..
Cheney, his fellow delegate, spoke briefly, in the
made by his colleague, closing by saying that
there was no one in his hearing who did not feel
an instructive desire to shout 'sThurman," at
all hazards and risk the cost.
The Texas headquarters at the Grand Pacific are
largely visited tonight. Gov. Hubbard, temper
airy chairman, stood at the end of the room !;
hundreds of delegates and visitors, including
many ladies, passing through, being presented
to him. Towards 10 O'Clock the rooms were SO
crowded that admittance was refused.
Daniel Manning and fellow delegates from
New York. addressed delegates, making strong
appeals for their candidate. Senator Lamar
made a short speech in reply, dwelling upon the
interests of the south. No formal poll of the
the Texas delegation has been made,
but careful inquiry tonight indicates Bayard
has eighteen votes, Cleveland four while four
delegates frankly. admit they undecided. 1t
is not believed Texas will vote as q unit for the
reason that its recent state convention at Fit
Worth abolished the two-third rule in state and
county matters, hence the delegation does not
feel warranted in exercising the majority rule to
invoke solid vote.
Chairman Hubbard's vote in his delegation was
recorded in favor Of sustaining the unit rule.
After Bayard Texas is almost unanimous for
Thurman.
The committee on platform remained in ses-
sion until after midnight No progress at all
was made, as the time was entirely taken up in
the reception of various memorials and address,
es, among them being from A. NJ. Sullivan,
president of the Irish national league of Ameri-
ca, on ''Absentee landlords in the United
States.''
Abram C. Hewitt, of New York, Mr.. Morrison
of Illinois, Mr. Butler of Massachusetts and Mr.
Gwynn of California, gave notice that they would
submit platforms tomorrow for discussion in the
committee.
4.
nights session. The two members of the com
mittee absent when organization was effected,
in the early part of the evening, were General
Butler and Thos. p. Finton, of Kansas. Gen.
Butler made his appearance later in the evening.
The committee adjourned until 10 O'Clock to-
morrow morning.
After sitting till past midnight the caucus adj
journed without reaching final decision. The
vote on presidential preferences Stood: Cleve-
land, II: Mcdonald, 12; Bayard. 2.
In regard to the vote the unit rule in
convention, Gen. Black, of Illinois, said he
thought it made up of four elements first, nearly
all of Cleveland's strength; second, lingering
sentiment of states rights, as indicated in the
South Carolina vote; third, power of machine;
fourth disposition to refuse any demand made
by Kelly.
The Indiana headquarters both at the Palmer
and at the Grand Pacific, were scenes of activity
to night Indiana was one of the few states who
cast her vote solid on the unit rule amendment,
thirty votes were recorded yea in favor of
abolishing the unit rule.
In explanation of this vote the delegates say
the motive of Indiana was to break the unit rule
SO as to weaken Cleveland in his own state and
scatter votes The Indiana delegation are conf
dent that Mcdonald is gaining in strength, but
evidences obtainable that the delegation
keeping in view second place on the ticket, i'll
case they fail on the first place.
The Illinois delegation met in secret session
to might for the purpose Of canvassing the Dues
ton of presidential preferences, and at II 80 is
still in session. Delegations from the Cleveland
and anti-Cleveland delegates from New York
were admitted and allowed to present their cases,
though not without protest from several mem
bers of the Illinois delegation, who said they
knew their minds without ontside interference,
and wanted to settle their own questions i'll
their own way. There were thirty-one Of the
forty-fou Illinois members present. with Gov.
Palmer in the chair. The question at issue was
discussed at great length by a number of
speakers. 1t is impossible to obtain gist of all
of them Joseph Mann, of Danville, presented
the claims of Joseph Mcdonald, of Indiana, say
ing the state was solid for him. Gen. j. G.
Black made long argument against Cleveland.
holding that his claims to consideration as re-
form governor were not well founded,
that his acts were not in the interests
the people has changed toward him as shown by
the fact that in year after his election there
was loss OF $4,000 Democratic
votes, so that he came to the pres
ent convention a candidate from q Re
publican state. On the other hand he had the
assurance that Indiana was solid for Mcdonald;
that gentleman had record which would com
mand the support of the people. He had been
attorney for corporations, but he had also been
attorney for the masses. One of the
greatest railroad cases, for the ben
eft of the average citizen has been
taken up to the supreme court by Mcdonald
AS the hours progressed several Of the delegates
grew tired and left the caucus. One leading
delegate said to a reporter for the Associated
Press, several ballots were taken but nothing de-
cisive reached. only thirty-one present. He
declined to state how the delegation stood. The
inference is that in the absence of thirteen mem
bers of the delegation, it was impossible to mus
ter enough votes for any candidate to enforce the