St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-12-21
Both Houses are Still in a Squabble
Oyer the Naval Appropri-
alton Bill.
With No Signs OF Either Party Backing
Down-The Senate Adjourns TIL
Monday.
The House Again Tackles the Interstate
Commerce Bill, but Without Ac-
ton Adjourns Till Monday
roRrr-ErcHrH CONGRESS.
The Senate.

sidered in secret legislative session. The |
motion was seconded BIZ Senator Cameron,
of Wisconsin, and the doors were oriered
closed. While the order was being executed |
Senator Conger said: II call for the other
SIDE - TO which Senator Cameron, of Wiscon-
sin, replied: "There is no other side TO II, +"
which raised laugh at Conger's expense, as
the rules provide that on a demand being at
any time made by two senators the doors Of
! the senate shall be closed. Tue senate then
went into secret legislative session.
During the secret session the doors for a
few minutes were considered open
for the purpose Of receivisg a request
from the house for further conference
on the naval BILL which request was granted.
When the secret legislative session closed
the senate went into executive session, and
when the doors were opened Senator Hoar
moved to take up FOR consideration the house
resolution providing for adjourn meDt from
to-day until January ). The resolution was
taken up.
Senator Hoar asked Senator Allison CHAIR
man of the appropriation eommittee) as to
the condition of things in case the senate
should agree to the resolution in question.
Senator Allison said if the senate passed
this resolution, and the two houses adjourned
TO the GATE named, there would on the lst
of January be no money from which the
navy could be paid. Every senator could,
therefore, Judge for himself whether it was
the duty Of the senate to adjourn.
Senator Hale said the senate had yesterday
by unanimous vote supported the position Of
its own committee, and insisted on its
amendments.
: The house was advised Of this fact, and it
appointed conferees and sent the bill back to
the senate, where it arrived at 2
O'Clock to-day. In the senate further
conference was ordered, and conferees sp-
pointed. He QIale) had sent word TO the
! house eonferees that the senate conferees
y were ready at any time to meet them; but
a the house eonferees had not appeared. The
/. chairman Of the house committee had as
It sured him (Hale) that the conference was
II useless unless the senate would recede from
d its position. The house was determined the
IS senate should follow the rule adopted by The
house of taking the appropriation bill u last
year aud going one-half its amount for The
coming year. The statement was that The
10 house would never back down.
: Senator Morgan inquired whether, IL the
house should appropriate $500, 600, 600 yea
for the support of the government, without
J. designating the precise purposes for which i
N was appropriated, the senate would be ex
Of pected TO follow the same principles.
Or Senator Hale did not know. The house
to he said, was willing to insert in the new bill
S the detailed items of the old. What was oe
IS curing now was likely TO occur frequently
IN He would be glad to see the senate show 1
70 was in earnest in this matter.
Is Senator Mcpherson asked whether it wa
N not almost absolutely certain that Their
a would be no quorum in the house after Mon
re day.
s. Senator Hale said that when the house ha
~ taken the attitude on the important matter
=. he supposed its memberswould not run ava
nv and leave IT,
IL Senator Mcpherson said he heard too muc
90 criticism OF the house. True. the difficult
nd was the senate had insisted on attaching
an appropriation bill a provision. (the ste
cruiser ciause), that had no place Their
ct, After twelve or thirteen months the senai
ne was still insisting that provision, improp'
est in that place, when It knew the house woul
a. not yield.
~ Senator Hale said the house did not eve
give the senate an opportunity of recedin
Def from that or any other amendment
om Senator Mcpherson thought the bou:
lto quite right in its position as long as Il
100 senate insisted on that amendment
sir Senator Beck said the position OF the hou.
~ conference committee was that it would o.
take up or consider the bill prepared at u
''o last session by the house itself, aud amends
as by the senate.
les Senator Ingalls, said this was repetition
ow the old problem, an irresistible force meet
he ing an immovable body. IL was also an
nd lustration OF the old saying that you cou
:, lead horse 10 water, bat could not NAL
.r Kim drink. There was a question abb
80. which the senate should not stnitify itsel
'ne but the practical question was: What Won
ous happen IL no appropriation bill was passe
,n , for the navy by January /
Tue Senator Hale replied he did not suppose
ave would be a killing matter. He did not su
," pose the department would expire.
eat Senator ingalls, was glad 10 hear this. ]
ley would have inferred, be said, from Sen
ney tor Hale's remarks, that the feeble remna
ou! OF the American navy, about which We b
10 heard so much, would probably be engulf'
me on or about the first OF January IL no appr'
cry priation were passed meanwhile.
oe Senator Hale did not know why Senat
oid ingalls, should have INDUCED in such mela
10 choly forebodings. He (Hale) had sa
y nothing TO warrant them.
Senator ingalls, did not see then what
! this debate was about. II The flag was 81
IN TO float and the sails we're still 10 be Der
Eye, and gallant tars to be fed, why could not 4
lie senate adjourn
pre- Senator Hale old not think it proper th
tne any department OF the government shou
aro be left single day without an appropr
way ton.
ang Senator ingalls, coneurred in this opiuio
y Senator Conger said it was not quests
oeu whether anybody would starye, but whett
the United States should be governed by !
or by the executive departments. II the
departments could carry on the governme
for five DAYS without the aid of the law, W
20 not for longer.
su.c Senator Conger rallied Senator ingalls, l
nv on the view taken by him OF the matter
ould volviug so important a principle. tn
tied. Senator Conger said. had been one looked
tiers TO in the senate for standing by the princp
my but he regretted to say that the idiot was {
tering to its fall. Laughter.) He hops
otLe however, that the senator would resume
~ high position in the esteem Of his fell
senators.
At O'Clock a message was received Fl
the house making provision for the ma
service for thirty-one days from the 3lst
iua- of December next.
and, Senator Butter called for immediate CT
was sideration and the bill was read.
Jail Senator Logan opposed it. 1t permitt
Vais- he said, the expenditure of money not c.
n of tcmplated oy congress. as II was oaseo
and. tne appIoPliauo ..,s =, .l.e 40, -.
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