The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1884-03-30
PUMPING CHIEF WALLlNG.
4MINGs TIE KNOWS AND DOESN'T KNOW
ABOUT GAMBLING HOUSES.

Assemblyman Rooscvclt's Investigating
committee sat at the Metropolitan Hotel yos-
terday. after a vacation OF three weeks. Two
or three Police Commissioners are summoned
70 appear before the committee tomorrow
Yesterday Superintendent Wa,iing stood In tho
breach. lie was In mutt. his boots polished
like mirrors. and his long board dazzling white
swept his breast For nearly four hours no
kept up q stream OF talk. partly In answer to
sharp questioning by Mr.. Miller the commit
tees counsel rs to the enforcement OF laws
ngainst gambling houses. lotteries. and policy
games. At tho close Of the examination his
broad brow was bathed In perspiration and his
collar had given up.
am George W. Walling." no said. "Super-
intendent Of Police since July 20. 1874" He
handed to Mr.. Miller morocco-bound copy OF
the amended rules now Ia force In the Police
Department. and proceeded:
Yes. I SEQ thore is a rule. No. A. requir-
ing that books Of record in which are
recorded all gambling and dsreputable houses
must be kept by the Superintendent Of Police.
l have brought here book containing the
record OF the houses OF Ill fame. but not Of the
gambling houses. have in my offlce records
OF tho gambling houses. but they are not posted
in any book. When want Information about
gambling houses the Police Inspectors furnish
mo all tbore Is to DO had. Each Inspector
keeps record Of the gambling houses in his
own separate district.
hoa.esi III hasn't been done a, ali to my khS%ied.e
S-Why not, Al don't know any particular reason.
sc Ss" fTG ,hs r"ee Board ar not
sir Toe board knows nothing nhout 1t. No such book
Assemblyman Nelson asked the Supcrintcnd-
ont whether he did not think no had violated
sndEths s"uerntendsnt said lie had violated it,
Mr. Mller-u,e GI2 says is the duty Of members OF
's %rSs to so Of e the the Of s 81
yas ,s EIs + ss 4h.s s%S sns delivered
are s s or * ID one sSS Af Md sf5t
them ar are for o., lottery ya and policy n,, ~,
9z;H"d The person. named in ths warran, were
.,Q~1hat' X-iThe form of the warrant only allows
the EGe, to snter The hons. .ed not t." look for
aa YOU no. gs.
had no syidsacs on WHEN police magistrate Would
did ySn issue warrant You could NO, &c,
sSa @ hs 'f ssSSs ponce
Q-Couldnt you get n search warrant, Al don't
Q-wha,' Al don't think could &c. search war
belief They fsaire direes evidencs A Aa
soa 1 % s pns s s "Rf
have ben ae II n ana eSss Up III
We could hire ahy one to get In aud report to u.s.
Ca. lotteries and policy shcp, f. /. impossible for
EGcSe to e., en- S Ti 90 Think So We havs
=, lS IS r. 81
Tssy rs al . s an Swn M
sharp enough not to do.
Or Il s Gt sy5T:'sS es
s NOT Rs ans"y .RR
thought the evidence sufficient to convict. The re.
;S$ sH:t s
'as.s pls. Of & s"%s!": ss"s
s.%s%s city :" and county Of New YORK
''s ar.
S.,a: within 'ss s nt II their
S@ilsy. 70, smiling house; tssn taasd Sihaai III.
ss r.rs sne; sa "a
Or served by the police; ,,,,,
police to essea,. held private p.r.cn
Ayes on the night before the Presidential election in
o-why wn. IT done, A,-word was sen. to me that
the as1e. illegal sos4rr and
Sesi"'s Tnsy s:id them in sSssss.
, q. X"u mo, :e1d the Police
one !ns PaIs. t"nm';.aners %,a isi.E:pnsa ger:
'y NC no a",Sf
r 1 s' %sa. Assn ct a " Ts If.
ssI o A nn tn; s.ss rsrs IN !. it
10. an s s st a s s5T,s..
ma AM the eoMGisi%, was dismissed; Ths sergeant
' r. ss's W the aHiss III
G Gss usy l.. a against hin" ArAs order re-
NO. sn iSeh x Sr'' exists will you prefer
9N"n pee lsso Iom.,asi informed you tina, II hi.
s q 81 "a IN"
s.e me "so" that said aid want > private eisens
GiS ;IS9 and . SreT S any number Fl
come TO me l would place any number Of men at lis
Q-ilas h. ever done 40, A.--Ha.n't been near me-
% ny AZ sf IN .ssed for
and olcer isl who stood by ssrxe.nt Jane: when ,is
y is%s as Vic tic 4
had told aser bstofs making OUT IL. Msrran.
%" q" ;GG S %" =. s % ns evil
NJ. roosevct-whst would you cali the ciicum,
Il %a,lnsa,A singular , coincidence; :, -, T.,
the fac OF sS. Ind ns s"iSsnes
A:ainst him We have legal evidence to put
ySa see the lottery advertisements i" new'p.
a Na aGn ySS go and st ss ,s
RSasc1e ne %Ss"ck ABLE to point GU,
these c.es aud cause arrests to be made better than the
ayear. We arrest lfty when CUmstock arrests one.
Q-from Oct. ~ 10 Dee. Y. 1852, Moore's Louisiana
Iote.y was ~ fun blast m Brnadway and uon.stnck
raded II. and II ns never been since lie turned
the AFFAIR ont Of the state Al think 1t was our arrests
that made that imprr ssnn.
Gin issa there was Parole Tnrf Club at 3 Barclay
street where tickets sold the In violation
Of Ayes. we procured tickets but IN didn't
the could not warrants To break the
riHN. Then Mt my order, Capt kcrghod joined the
club AID policemen were sent To the races to set ey
deuce
Mr. Roo,evelt--Is that Gr-tclass WAY 10 get evil
dencc. Al am jusicd in doing anything TO get evil
Gence.
Mr.. koo..vr,,-Ye3 u II Isn't stupid In getting e,i
ccnce 10 customary 10 get police Captains TO join
Ciubsf A.Nn sir No other case happened like that
Assr,Hblyman Wr'cli-pii Cart, Beryhald report To
yOu' AMY ne. lie was getting evidence
Q-And il,e Place was broken up by Cons,oek! A.
And the police
Q-iiayr you ever heard that the police protect
policy player, mud snnslers, Alive heard such
stories, hut no eN hirnce of IT,
Q-iIave you heard II alleged that certain police Cnp
tnius in the halt Of obtaining money from persons
engaged IN gambling ana IN policy houses In hrect
y have ! rsnenber only Dr. croshys letter as to
Capt lyman. The newspapers say certain police Cap.
ans Ike 10 get certain rr'eincta The, are good To get
hold Of. would Ike to get SELF where there IL
the least w,fS 10 do,
Q.-Ynn never hrlisv. these sioriest A.-Wcl now
ths,rA aur.tnn don't feel that shouii be Justified
In making \ charge On mere rumor.
Mr. Roo.ev.lt-DiI you ever in yuur own mind believe