New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-02-09

you assign that order to Mr. Mcdonald Al LIN "a
Is the last order had aud did not want to be botherea
about IL any longer.
! Q.-Did you assign anything else 70 Mr. MCDONALD
Al Endorsed one Of ny warrants FOR $500 10 hm'
| HOW MEASUREMENTS WERE MADE.
was here taken until two o'clock When the
/ committee reassembed the examination OF Mr.. Barry
continued He questioned further about his prop
erty from which he had sxcavated sand. He said that
at the time he leased It, he had idea OF bidding for
supplies His lease did give him the privilege OF ex-
cavsting and selling sand from the property. bus he
thought he had obtained permission from the owners
Previous to Mr.. Thompsons administration he had OBJ
tanned order from Allan Campbell for material for
streets This he purchased but he could not remember
where He paid for material purchased according TO the
of the person from whom he obtained It
and the measurement OF the department.
| Mr.. whitrdge-Did these measurements OF the De
par;ment show how much had been received from eacn
man A.-NO. they merely showed tie amount deiv-
cred. when the order hlled.
l.-Then how did YOu know how much yo1 had 70 pay
except upon the Individual statement OF the party nom
| whom you purchased A:-The Department measured
the heap before and after delivery. . ,.. .ho
material before delivery Al don't know.
After much persistent questioning, the witness said
that he received from Mr. Moneys bureau, verbally In
formation to what the earth ground he had pur-
chased measured this Information he understood be-
ing based measurements made by the Department Of
the material before delivery. he compared the infOrma-
thus received with the estimates Of the person from
he had bought the material and paid for the mate
| rial accordingly.
Odd you take receipts for the money you paid for
the material Al F don't r Sat 1 ' Ssvs no%
When get great number OF receipts destroy
GLOW long do you preserve them A-NO paFticu-
lar time at all. A.. -, A.
former Investigation Z Al don't remember.
Q-why did you not take receipts ron other men be-
sides Field Al cannot tell. l might nave taken re-
ceipts from them. l don't remember
WHY he DID NOT Use CHECKS.
In answer several questions the witness said that
he always cashed his warrants at the Broadway Ma
tiona Bank lie did not deposit them because he needed
the money pay for material he had bought and he did
not pay in checks for the material he had purchased be-
cause persons Of whom he purchased did not have
bank accounts
Q-what proportion Of the money You received for Or
ders filed had you 70 pay Outl Al don't know.
O-Wi you undertake to swear that at the time you
drew the money from the bank you had not pald every
body from whom you had received dirt OF other mater'
Q-Then you don't know whether You had then to pay
0HWby di Won not pay them BY checki A-Because
then they would have to lose half day going down Town
o.-Can you name a man from whom you purchased
dirt who you know did not keep q bank account A.
oIsht It fact that the man you paid that money to
would rather be paid IN bils than IN checAf Al doh
o"Didn't he tell you that he wanted whatever was
coming 10 him In bills A-Weu, possibly he might nave
Q-Isn't that the why you got the bills At
Q2maye You any idea who that man wssl Al don't
know other than those genssay dedi WIn bed Nav
IS can you suggest any reason why you did not deposit
oyow see by your bank account that May 81 you
deposited in the bank S5l5
REFUSING TO PRODUCE HIS BANK ACCOUNT.
Here Mr. Payne objected that the question was based
on the presumption that he had deposited SjI5 on that
dav without any evidence to that effect
General Tracy Ito the wtness-Will you produce your
I bank account =. ~ -. -,
advise him that he is under no obligation to produce ns
General Tracy to the witness-Do you refuse to pro-
duce your bank account Al do.
or Won deposited 1913 May y, was that not part
Of the 5000 that you had received May Io' Al c"n
'3-ntisa part Of the 5000 YOU suggest any rea-
son why you took bills the 18th OF May ana thc
deposited S5l5 OF It on tie 2lstt A-NO SIR lcaAhot
so 4 You tell Where that s515 came FRONT ANo,
sir; don't know
The witness was shown orders amounting in all TO
IT'S FOR work done in thesprng summer and fail OF
1881 Mr. Payne objected that only eight Of them were
given under Thompsons administration and that the
committee had not authority inquire into matters that
concerned predecessor The original resolution under
which the committee empowered was read, and IL
was decided that the preamble had nothing to do with the
resolution and that did not prevent the committee from
making inquiries into matters previous to M Ihomp-
sons administration. But the committee conhned its
inquiry to the eight orders obtained under
Mr. Thompson. The witness sald that ne Ha dsslSneu
an ri dated November II, 1851. amountins to $500
TO McDonad, and had also indorsed Two warrants 20
him The balance OF what was due him he had PAID IN
money He could not recall the name OF any man whom
he had paid with money drawn from me Dank on tne
eight orders. He SAID ne UNDERSTOOD McDVhdu, "Ionh
he employed 70 do the caring to be general contractor
but did not know whether at that ne ne ~as vIn
knowing whether Mcdonald had not taken some or ms
larrys dirt his own account and got PAD Ior ~ ne
was then questioned where he had obtained stones
To m certain He had purchased some dimension
cayated from street He paid for them, he thought Fl
yard They were measured by somebody whom he
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his statement though he had never seen the man before
since lie had never seen the stones devered did
not know how much he got for them ana not know
an order for stones Tor the aqucdct half mile from
Kingsbrdge. He Gidnt know how mucn ne palu Ior Tue
stones how much he got them whether they were
delyered he only knew that they were removed from
the place where he had bought them lie sald that ne
had supplied building and dimension stones on the orders
given him.
CHUNKS OF IGNORANCE.
Barry was asked II ne knew anything about gnelss.
Tie had never heard the name before and had no reco
lection Of having sold any such stone. He was then
shown a warrant which he had recepted for $3.50 for
furnishing gness. lie identified his signature.
o. How did you come to make that signature Al
suppose because knew that the order was MED &c..
Odd You see that biz before - y don re-
lie thought the handwriting of the bill was that OF
james W. smith whom he got TO make out MS oiiis. M
Do You know how Mr.. smith came To put III inc
word gneiss Al cannot tell
Ole didn't do il at your suggestion A.-No, SIR
Harry was shown another bill TO which his name was
signed He did not recognize the handwrhg as IhAt ot
smith He did not remember employing any JOG! Ou'
O.IDo You know how many cubic feet are in cubic
ward Al don't know
O Did Won ever know Ayes, sir
0-Wil YOU swear to that A.-NO sir; VIII not.
Or YOU didn't know how many cubic feet 1t took to
make yard and yet bought stone by the ya ana SOFA
h by the foot how did You make your calculations A.
tafter long pause, bought 1t by the running yard
that Is three feet square ,,,.,.-.,.
O-You bought by the square yard and sold II by inc
cubic yard, and dont know how many feet 1t TOOK 10
make a cubic yard ,.,--. 800. ..,.to,,
The witness appeared 10 DC OsL ia hopec7S COhi4Vh
and did venture reply. ... . ,
MIR PAYNE then undertook 10 bring the witness out OF
hi fusion nv questions which indicated the proper re
niles to be made but did not succeed We'll fohuhs 10
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