The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1884-08-27

| 81 600. Lost.
| Representative kaunarnauo landing at Paauhau
$1,000 was inserted.
RepresentatiTe Aholo that the salary Of mes
sengers Interior Department be raised from
| 5000 TO $500. Carried
/ On notion of the Attorney General 5000 WIS
| inserted for the purchase Of lands at Molokai.
| The Minister Of Interior moved 10 insert $1,000
for the boring Of artesian wells on Oahu and
Representafive Nakaleka moved TO insert 5000
for boring artesian wells on Molokni. Carried.
Representative Dole moved to insert 5000 TO
procure painting illustrative OF ancient Hawaii
| an customs. The subject to be chosen by Com
mittee Of 3 to be appointed by the President.
Lost.
Representative Dole moved to insert 500 for
the purchase OF Mr.. G. furneauxs painting OF
Queen Kapiolani, to be hung in the Assembly
| Chamber. Lost.
The Minister Of Interior proposed 5000 for
artesian wells on Oahu. Lost.
The Minister of Interior moved TO insert $1,000
for assistance in bringing out Hon. A. Fornander's
History Of the Polynesian Races up to the date
of civilization. Carried.
Representative Kaulukou, desired to know 1.-THE
work would be in English and Hawaiian
The Minister stated thatit would be lin English
only
Representative KaunAmano immediately moved
a reconsideration of the vote; carried and on the
next vote the item vas lost.
Minister Of Interior moved to insert $1,000 for
copying translating and printing Of the Civil and
Penal Codes, English and Hawaiian editions.
/ Lost.
The Minister then submitted an item 4 S2g.in.
/ % for repairs and expenses in connection with
lolAni Palace. made up Of various accounts IS
c. H. Judd S1ST7S9, G. Laeas s5.sss57. A. $
Cleghorn S705.36, F. II. Braidwood S1,5s575, c. Z.
Williams $40, J. T. waterhouse S935, $, Mott
/ Sii5.26, II. NJ Chamberlain S731 q. W. Macfar-
| lane Co. $G965.4O, Miscellaneous $6,66o-29.
At the completion OF the reading. Hon. G. W.
Macfarlane rose and stated that there must be
mistake in the item connected with his firm there
| hainn M suah amount dina them. fSeuSatfou. and
/ a remark Charley, the goose Is dead.
| Representative kalua spoke. rather warmly,
against the manner in " hieh these bills had been
| introduced seemingly to avoid Investigation, he
moved that the bills itemized, aud schedule be
/ referred to the Committee gu Finance; he con-
sidered that the bills should undergo a rigorous
Representative Dole asked the Minister o. the
Interior, who had presented them. why these
accounts were not brought in earlier.
Minister GulicR replied earelessly that he did
not know If there was an opportunity for bringing
i them in earlier. This seemed to him to be about
/ as oppOrtune time as any
/ Representative Dole said he regarded that as an
/ impairment answer of His Excellency: the Minis
ter might have said that he had not had the items
/ before. The House had been on the Appropri-
alton Bill for the past two months, and II the
Ministers had not brought these accounts in for
want of an opportunity, then they did not under
stand their business. As far as the Assembly could
Judge by the answer of the Minister they had deli
berately kept back these items believing this was
I
| gods wish to destroy they first make mad" The
Ministers are piling up this black record against
themselves If they wished to destroy all hope of
| their salvation. No one IN the Assembly had
| done acts which are more severe upon the Minis
tiers than they themselves and this action tonight
/ is one of the worst. They TO be doing their
best to blacken the name Of the King aud to bring
/ him into contempt before the nation. He under
stood that one Of these items, which had been put
down to Macfarlane Il Co., was not one which this
Assembly has anJthing to do with 1t was for
/ carriages, harness and pictures the private pro-
perry Of His Majesty. Knowing that these items
| culld not stand investigation, they have kept
them till the last moment hoping to escape investi-
| CATION. II was trick unworthy Of any member
Of the Minister of His Majesty. He supposed that
/ there were some of these items which country
should pay, and that there were others which no
| one but His Majesty should pay. The Assembly
could not find out how the account should stand
except by investigation of 1t BY proper committee.
Where was the time for committee TO investigate
| Committee men made of flesh and blood and
must have some time TO sleep. His Majesty did
not want his own private expenses. for which no
receives $1,000, paid by extra appropriations-he
| did not want TO come there brought in by His
Minister, as a beggar TO have his debts paid! He
| supported the motion Of Representative kalua to
| refer the accounts TO the Finance Committee.
Representative Godfrey Brown said there was
very little in sending this to the Finance
| Committee. He had seen the accounts and had
been conversing with the other members of the
committee. He was sure they would never report
fayorably Oh the insertion Of these items in the
Appropriation Bill. Sofar as he could see through
| it, they all seemed to be matters of personal
expense; one bill close on TO So 900 came from Geo.
Lucas About two months previous he had had
conversation and Lucas had told him that the
Government owed him something like hve or SIX
hundred dollars, but here it was presented at
nearly ST thousand and which goes back as far
| as 1882 These bills were first shown 10 him by
the Minister Of Foreign Affairs, and he had
examined them along with his colleague and they
seemed to be only matters Of personal expenses.
No use sending them to the Finance Committee
they would be sure to return an adverse report.
Representative Pilipo, Nakalell and Aholo
| spoke in depreciation OF the manner in which the
account had been presented and IN favor of
referring 10 the Finance Committee.
The Minister Of Foreign Affairs desired 10 reply
| to the honorable member for Lihue, who in his
| usual vehement style was making charges against
the Ministers for ncompetency and neglect IN this
matter. There was n matter of accounts, no one
of which had originated IN any Of the Departments
but had been brought 10 their notice by His Males
tvs Chamberlain, who at tho time he thought was
the proper party to bring them before this House.
The speaker had had them in his hands, they were
| given him few days ago and he gave them to the
| Finance Committee. He did not understand them.
| nothing had been ordered by him and he had no
| knowledge of the contents until placed in his
hands he desired to get the opinion of the experts
| of the Finance Committee. II was not matter
for the Department of the Interior that, nor any
other department of the Government had not had
anything to do with the matter more than 20 merely
| present them to the Assembly. He admitted that
It was rather a late day, but the members of the
Finance Committee had an opportunity to look at
them. He did not get the opinion of any member
| of the Finance Committee, but left the matter TO
themselves. He should like to get their opinion.
| and should therefore support the motion to refer
| the matter TO them.
Representative Hitchcock said he would like to
know what this House had to do with any expenses
/ originating at the palace. What had they to do
with any money not expended by the Government
| Was His Maiesty's Chamberlain TO go on laying
out money at the palace and come in here and ask
| "a IN mas hV n at
lain the keys Of the safe nj once and let him help
/ himself? This is not brought IN by member Of
the Government, not by any order OF the Govern
ment; then why should they pay the bills livery
member who would vote for that would transgress
his oath Where was the end to be If they allowed
/ these expenditures TO be paidl There was no way
to put stop to unauthorized expenditures " they
| paid accounts like that Why had not the Minis
ter of Interior been asked, and expenditures made
/ in legitimate way Nothing Is said about TINS
large item until they were almost ready to close
the session. He had not come there to squander
| time or money. He had been in that House nearly
five months, and II was not fair to ask membersto
spend time now discussing those matters that had
/ no right to be there and no one knew this better
/ than the Minister OF Interior, who had brought
/ this matter in.
Representative Smith said that in looking over
the accounts he found that there all sorts of
items in the statement, such reception Of foreign
guests at the Coronation, and there were no less
than six different headings under which those bills
we're charged. A large portion OF those items were
| purely the lOuseuOlQ OF mhlthtl AuT
which $1,000 had been appropriated. 10 refer
the accounts TO the Committee at this late day
useless. What was the use Of giving them accounts
going back as far as 1882, the bill Of Lucas for
instance, to report OH nowl 1t would take several
/ days to verify such accounts What he felt most
keenly was that this matter should have been left
till the last moment, too late for investigation.
Balances that might involve searching out accounts
/ for wears back, they asked to report upon in
a few hours. The chairman Of the Finance Com
mittee had had these accounts and had returned
them 10 the Minister Of Foreign Affairs three days
previous; why had they not th0u been presented to
/ the Assembly, There were bill charged 10 CorO-
/ nation expenses. why were they not presented ia
the accounts Of the Department OF Foreign Affairs
The Minister of Foreign Ahairs-I was not
/ aware that there were any items connected with
that subject in the bills.
Representative Smith-Yes thore Is, for instance
/ the item relating 10 money charged by HIS
/ Majesty's Chamberlain as Reception TO Foreign
i Guests"
The Minister Of Foreign Aasirs-That is a
/ new item to me, did not authorize the eKpendi-
turei
Representative Smith Cconiinuingi-It was not
proper for the House TO pay those bills. II any
| injustice were done in not paying them, the
| sponsibility lay with His Majesty's Chamberlain
/ and the Minister'S
The motion to refer to the Finance Committee
carried.
Hon J. o. Dominis announced that His Majesty
had signed the following Aetsi
An Act TO prevent the waste of water from
! artesian wells on the Island Of Oahu.
/ An Act TO encourage Ocean Telegraph Gables.
An Act TO prohibit the attaching OF posters 10
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