National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1884-03-22

KNOWN, lie had made certain llttle CohIl'
buttons that the democrats would like to
have known. It was finally agreed that l
should examine the books, in the presence OF
his clerk. found an entry of $500 charged
to star-route contracts that had been paid TO
A. NJ. Gibson. l asked what the money had
been paid for. You know he replied. l
don't know, ssid and asked again. You
know paid 1t for information
This was after Gibson had left the cases.
In the same account was an item Of $4,000;
1t might have been $4,000 don't think 1t
was $2,5O0-paid to Colo Cooks partner.
Whats that for 2" l asked.
Bosler did not know, except what Dorsey
had told him. When Bosler had asked,
Dorsey replied, mo matter. 1 paid it for
the benefit of tho interest"
All the counsel, | think, prior to the second
trial became convinced Of an attempt in
which Gibson was concerned, to secure the
absence of witnesses. This was not confined
to the Dorsey case, but to tho Salisbury and
other cases.
"You said yesterday that Gibson was In
the employ of Tildon in tho star route cases"
interposed Mr.. Springer.
"Gibson is entitled to the credit Of having
early arrived at the knowledge of tho star
route frauds. lie wrote considerable for tho
Now York SWr. At some time or other Til
don became so far interested that he fur
nished money to BIO quietly used in the
investigation. At % certain stage of the
matter Tilden sent C. +. McLain to Wash
ingtOn. He was known as an adopted son of
Tilden. lilo is gentleman and a lawyer, If
these things can be combined"
IF this Is hearsay," interposed Representa-
tive Fyan Ia democrat), I'VE do not want it,"
Ppm not going to affect Tilden," Mr.. Bliss
continued, "McLain came to Washington,
and went back and said things were properly
managed. He was law partner of II. 4.
xva1 arh.t pf A
field. Tilden obtained this information, and
if he had been nominated by tho democratic
party he would havo made u campaign on
the star route frauds, as he did in Now York
ON the canal frauds. If he had, there
wouldn't have been any need for an electoral
commission. But Tilden did not run and he
did not give his information to Hancock.
Late in February after the presidential cleo
ton, Knox proceeded to communicate the
star route frauds to Garfield. / think that
was why Dorsey's influence with him ended.
The cabinet was not made up as Dorsey
wanted. Ny personal relations with Dorsey
were social and pleasant. l attended the
famous Dorsey dinner. He wanted man
in the cabinet and wanted the same man
| in tho same position"
"What was tho gontleman's manner" asked
Mr.. Springer.
an tell you. 1t was Charles ]. Folger.
| We wanted him for secretary Of the treasury,
but he was not put in Garield's cabinet. He
was offered the attorney generalship and
| declined.
"As the playwriters say two years have in
tervened. The government was anxious to
| learn where Walsh was. We couldn't find
him. We found letters accommodating in the
| New York postoiilce. We put watch on
guard. A man calls. We follow him to the
Everett house. We find that that man is A..
NJ. Gibson. A few days later another man
/ l. ~ TT. H..
was week or ten days more of this same
thing, but we didn't got Walsh. am de-
serious to get Walsh. l have devoted great
deal of timo to find him, for which laugh.
ingl it is understood got no pay"
"Who had access to the star route papers i?
asked Mr.. Springer.
ANY ono of the counsel could have gone
| to them and taken possession of them"
"What evidence had you during the prog
ress of the trial that the defendants wore in
possession of information supposed TO be in
the possession of the government counsel n
One case especially Il remember. A post
| Office Inspector made report on witness
| which contained something not to the credi
of the witness. 1t was afterward found out
that this was wrong. When the witness wa
on the stand in the second trial the counse
for the defense asked questions relating to tn,
inspectors wrong report, which showed they
had seen the papers, or knew what was IL
them.
Woodward had made abstracts of tho sta,
route papers and had made reports on them
| found that copies of these had been mad
and sent to Cook. About the time that Cool
resigned | called upon him to return thu
copies. He replied that he had no such papers
Subsequently | stated the matter to the at
torney general. Cook felt insultod at my in
sisting that he had any papers. 1t is my owl
belief that when those papers were called fo
Ill.,. ,..,. H.
were wanted of them, aud when copies wer,
made they were returned. A Mrs. Gregg, o
Alton, Ill., says she was employed by Cook t.
copy papers, and she said she was not to 10
the other counsel or Mr. Woodward know
anything about them. Her description of thu
papers answers to those copies of Woodward
reports and abstracts. These copies wer
made while Cook was in the employ OF tn
government.
Mr.. Bliss continued his testimony in ref
erence to the San Antonio and Corpus Christ
route. He did not take in tho fact tina
Kellogg, who was interested, was Senate
Kellogg, The grand jury adjourned ate
having indicted Price. After that Wasl
and others circulated the report that Kellogl
ought to have been indicted. Witness wa
then in New York. When he learned of tn
condition Of things he thought that the gram
jury should be reconvened. Judge Wyli
was indisposed to reconvene it, but witnes
made personal appeal, stating that it wa
reported that Kellogg was being shielded
Thereupon the grand jury was brough
together. and Walsh testified before it, bu
it failed to find M indictment. The evidenc
was so strong, however, that had witnes
been a juryman he would have found a
indictment 1t was possible for jury intel
ligently to assume that there was lttl
break in the testimony-that Kellogg Nigh
have done everything he did and yet hav
done it honestly. A new jury was assembled
before which Price appeared and an indict
ment was found against Kellogg.
I'm Mr.. NacVeagh's testimony" said Nh
Springer, che stated that he called President
Garted's attention to the fact that some o
, the prosecutions might result in changing
republican majority in the senate to a demo
cratic majority. Was your attention calle
to the same fact by any one"
The witness replied: don't remember tina
my attention was called to it at all. 1t d
not enter into consideration.
WAS any suggestion made to the gram
jury that it was serious matter to indict
United States SENATOR"
zone of the colored jurymen said it woul
be a serious matter"
Mr.. Milliken inquired of what Mr.. Cool
complained when he was discharged from tn
government service.
THAT confidence was not maintained Il
in him." said Mr.. Bliss. The truth was W
could not traverse the fact. 1t was grea
rnliaf tn ms Gupl, "a r.linf that 1 ni