New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-02-10
THE TESTJMONEY IN DETAIL.

HE ESlIMONEI IN lAlL'
The committee resumed its investigation at
I12O 1t had been kept waiting twenty minutes for Mr.
Mooney He brought with hun large package of books
and papers he had been requested to produce all the
original papers bearing the orders for material fur
nished by John Barry and william Mcdonald Before
the examination began Senator Cullen said that he
thought the committee should not permit one witness 10
be present while another was being examined
MIR Mcdonald then present, and had been present
on the previous day throughout the examination of Mr.
Barry.l
Mr. PayneThat would be an extraordinary proceeding
Mr. Cuilen-If were a witness and heard one witness
testify could easily follow him ,..
Mr. PAYNE with show OF indignation)-Our witnesses
do not swear that way.
The committee did take any action the matter.
Mr.. Mooney said that he had brought book showing
copies Of the orders issued by his bureau two field books
showing the measurements by engineers Of material re-
ceiyed and oremens report, showing the material re-
ceived and used by them different works" His atten
ton directed TO the voucherbook, showing certain
orders given 10 join Barry. He then handed the
foreme Ms returns They showed that in January Feb
ruary and March 1881 1850 cubic yards Of earth had
General TTacy-Do you find by these returns who fur
nshcd the maeriall
After several evasve and persistent repetition
OF the question by General Tracy, the witness replied
with irritsbty "They don't show that any gen
tleman in particular furnished It, Part Of it fur
nshed by ourselves" lie explained that some material
had been obtained from streets that had been thrown
open, Of which the grading had to be reduced
Q-Where Is tie evidence to show that any, portion
Of the 1850 yards OF earth furnished 10y the city
Ave don't put down there any statement OF what the
city furnishes
QWhere have you got any evidence TO show who fur
nished the 1850 yards Of earthi Al suppose our
Odd IL G engineers ever give You from these books
any memoranda Of the quantity OF the material delivered
s Q.-What did you do with that memoranda A.-POs-
fby have portions OF them In my book III my office,
Q.-Why did you not bring Ia that book this morning
ABecause Tm looking for the balance OF the informa-
General Tracy-Go and get those books In which you
have those vouchers pasted aud We will wait for YOU
Mr.. M'DONALD QUESTIONED BRIEFLY.
Mr. Mooney then left the room to get the book. While
he was absent william Mcdonald called TO the stand.
lie said he was in the COAL sand and gravel basness
etc" He began furnishing material the city fifteen
years ago. He had furnished considerable material with
III the last years, but could not remember how
much
Mr. whtridge-How did You find out when the Depart
rnent wanted materiali Al asked the Commissioner
10 send me word.
Q.-How would he send You wOrdl A.-By writing.
Q.-Have you any Of those letters I Al haven't.
Mr. Mcdonald said he could sign his name, but could
hot write out the bills he sent the Department These
were written out by members OF his family
by his friends. The Commissioners letters
also read TO HIM He could not
produce any of these letters The material which he sup
ped TO the city he obtained by purchase. He could
member the names Of only few of tine persons from
whom lie had purchased such material He enumerat
Ing the names Of some OF these when Mr. Mooney
turned with the sersp6ook and tue examination Of Mr.
MCDONALD was suspended.
MR.. MONEYS sCRAp-BooK,
Mr. Mooney said that the scrapbook was he had in
his Office for keeping records in. He was examined
closely on this subject and said that he did not remember
who put in the scraps nor how the book was obtained
Q-Are not the scraps freshly put inl A-rhose
marked duplicate are freshly put IN,
Q-When were they put in A.-Yesterday or this
morning.
Q.-since you have been subpunaed to appear before
the committee Ayes the duplicates We're
Q.-IIere is a letter dated April. 1881 VIII you swear
that placed IN this book years agol Al not
positive. The letters were placed there by one OF my
clerks
The witnesses attention was called to several other
letters the dates OF which ranged from 81 49, he sup
posed they placed there about the time they were
received, but he would not any particular time
He was shown how one letter dated 1851 was pasted
over another dated 1888 showing that have been
put there after the latter in place He did not know
how that happened he thought the letters might have
got shifted by the clerk who pasted the duplicates in the
book He remembered getting letter. dated June 81
1873 out Of drawer and directing Emil Bottger his
clerk 10 paste II In the book He shown several let
pasted page Of brown paper, this brown
paper had been again pasted in the the book
He thought they had probably been taken from some
original scrapbook
Q.what clerk bias been engaged in pasting things in
THIS book within the last As hOursi A-Eml Bottger
Q-Do you not know that this scrapb0ok has all been
Sected him Bottger) II he could not find originals TO put
duplicates 10.
4TToud you undertake TO swear that thi, book has
cont understand the question
inc quesr1on was repeated A:-No, won't swear.