The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1884-05-14
Messrs. Forster and GOSchen Ma Strong
Speeches in Support of the Motto. ~-~-
Censuring the Government.
The Conservatives Delighted at the Ev-
idence of Liberal Weakness.
An Egyptian Force To Be Sent at Once to
the Relief of KOrOskO-TwO of Cor
don's Messengers Captured.
GLADsToNE's EGYPTIAN POLICY.
Continuation of the Debate on the Notion ia
Ceusure the Ministry,

| Continuation of the Debate on the Motion to
Censure the Ministry.
LONDON May 13.-The debate upon Sir
Michael Hicks -Beaehs motion to censure the
government was resumed in the Commons this
afternoon. Lord Randolph Churchill Conserva-
tive, made a bitter attack upon the governments
policy He believed all England would say AYE
to the question whether Gen. Gordon should be
rescued. Mr.. Gladstone would either have to
submit to this demand or resign
Mr. Forster, lately Chief Secretary for Ireland,
made vehement speech attacking the policy of
the government, and was frequently Interrupted
by vocferous cheers on the part of the Conser
vatives. ''In this instance he said, Il cannot
support the government"
harrington, Secretary of State for War made
a strong speech in defense of the government.
He said the government fully recognized their
responsibility for Gen Gordon's safety, and thev
had no desire to avoid this responsibtv. He
defended the governments course in sending
troops to Suakim, and not to Berber. and pointed
out the risk and suffering to be incurred in dis
patching forces to the latter place. He denied
that the government were neglecting to take
steps to secure the safety of Gen. Gordon, but
said an expedition to crush the Mahdi was be
yond the responsibility of the government.
The House was crowded and Forster's speech
created sensation.
Tonight the censure motion was rejected
303 to 275 The Parnellites voted with the mi
nority The debate previous to the vote was ex-
cesslvely animated Lord Randolph Churchill com
pared Gladstone's speech with the declarations Of
Pontius Plate publicly washing his hands of the
blood of a just man. This portion Of Churchills
speech stirred the House to great merriment
and was loudly applauded from the ConseTva-
tive benches.
Mr. Goschen made speech, and the interest
then considerably tagged.
Mr. Chas. Dixie. Radical who followed in de-
fense of the governments policy addressed his
remarks to Il thinnod House
Sir Stafford NOrthcote concluded the debate
by reminding the House that it incurred grave
responsibility in voting against the motion.
Forster and GOschen abstained from voting on
the censure resolutions. Thrty-two Parnellites
voted with the minority, having satisfied them
selves that they would not, by so doing, defeat
the government
HOW THE VOTE WAS RECEIVED.
The small majority received by the govern
ment in the vote on the censure resolutions is
looked upon as the sensation of the present ses-
sion The Liberal leaders forsome time confidently
counted upon a much larger expression in favor
of the governments policy. Thousands of persons
vainly endeavored to gain admission to the gal
lelres of the House during the debate The corri-
dors and all approaches were thronged by eager
crowds The popular expression of feeling is
strongly in opposition to the government, and
this sentiment found vent in the comments of
the masses outside as well as by the demonstra-
tions of approval that greeted the speeches de,
lvered by the advocates of censure. The Lib
eral whips had worked very hard during the pas\
week to induce unwilling members to reiea
their convictions that the motion
should prevail, and members who had beer
relied on to strengthen the governments maiori-
ty refused persistently all efforts to obtain their
votes. The speeches Of Forster, Goschen and
other Liberal members told heavily against the
government. Up to the last moment the Lib
erals had relied upon the support of the Irish
vote The result of the voting showing so pal
pably the reduction of the government power
i'll the House of Commons. was received with con,
tinuous cheers from the Conservatives which
were but feebly echoed from the government
side. This is The fourth motion for censure that
has been voted upon during the present session
of Parliament, and shows fast dwindllng away
Of the governments majority
The Times says the majority in fnvor of the
government on the censurc motion does not rep
resent the predominant and universal conviction
Of the country. "rhe significant decrease in
the support of Gladstone" the Times says, con
yeys warning that cannot possibly be ignored