St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-07-09


in this convention. in this great covenant of the
| great Democratic partly Then in this great con-
| vention in this great gathering of wisdom, of
! purity we are prepared to announce and face
| that free speech and free discussion are thrown
| out Of the window, and the majority of the dele
gates are prepared to submit themselves to the
management of few people who operate in New
| York.
The words that have said, sir, are not for
! any particular candidate. Nay, more, they
not designed to defeat any particular candidate,
but there is no power in this convention that l
know of which will make a recording secretary
| place on the minutes of this body u living lie
simply because resolution in the New York
| state convention assumes to falsify our votes.
| Applause. If the chairman Of the New York
delegation records me and twenty four of my
! colleagues voting for certain candidate, for
whom they have already denounced their deter
mination not to cast their votes, he records, sir,
what is not true in fact, and when the secretary
of this convention proceeds to record the voting in
away that my lips deny. he performs an outrage on
| free speech and reduces representative bodies to
a comedy and farce, to which l hope they will
never be reduced in this land of the free, and
especially in this council office and enlightened
Democracy. Applause.
Mr.. Clunie, of California-Mr. President and
gentlemen of this Convention: We come all the
way from California to vote for the greatest po-
litical reformer Of the age, Samuel j Tiden, of
| empire state to lead in this struggle, but we
don want to start wrong l apprehend that
| every delegate on this floor who is patriotic
enough to come here came here for the single
purpose of success in the coming election.
Carter Harrison here got the floor amid loud
and confined applause, during which time the
the chair seemed to be laboring under considera-
bic difficulty to learn the name OF our distin-
| gpished fellow citizen. Finally order was re-
stored and the mayor said
Mr.. Chairman-The question is whether this
convention shall make its rules or not. We are
told by the gentlemen from New York, the de-
legates are instructed to vote as unit That
may be true. II they failed to vote so then they
disobeyed their state But this convention has
nothing to do with that question. 1t is for them
to return to their constituents and to say to their
constituents whether they have done well or bad,
! not for us here want harmony. don't know
but when the time comes but the gentleman
from New York Mr.. Brady, and 1 may be wide
! of each other. 1t is not question OF IL candi-
date, but, sir, suppose the Chairman of the state
of Illinois announces that it casts so many votes
for one man and so many for another, if he casts
it improperly have l not the right to chailange
! that vote! Applause The chairman of the
New York convention will announce, if he
chooses, seventy two votes from New York, but,
sir, man or dozen men. or there may be forty
men say that the chairman has not announced it
correctly,ar we here on every question to be COM
ptlleQ 10 ASK WGeJner the seats are INSTRUCTED
for unit rule or not, That s not for the conven-
ton to decide We make rules, and our rules
should be that every man, when challenging the
vote OF a chairman must be heard and must be
righted, and for the sake of harmony if there be
ole or two or five votes from state that wants to
challenge vote, l don't want
| rule vote in this state to have
two-thrds vote announced a false vote. want
On honest vote, and shall probably vote in OPP
position to my friend from New York on every
occasion, but | want a free vote. Applause.
About forty delegates here jumped TO their
feet and after considerable effort the chair final
ly succeeded in announcing that Mr.. Jacobs. of
New York, had the floor, who said am Of
the minority ofmy delegation, and as one / exer-
else the privilege of holding against the choice of
the majority, but as Democrat, as a man loyal
tony constituents and obedient to the orders Of
the convention that sent me here, bow to the
will OF the majority.
Mr.. Kelly, of New York-Mr. Chairman: am
pleased to see that liberal view is taken Of the
amendment of the gentlemen of New York. The
principle involved in this amendment goes to the
very foundation of the Democratic party. The
right to disfranchse the minority of delegation
III the Democratic convention from the state OF
New York There sixty-two counties III dhe
state of New York, there are but ten of them
Democratic, and by the argument of the senator
from the state of New York, the great Demo
cratic county of New York, which elects your
Democratic president if an opportunity is given
Them is to be disfranchised i'll a Democratic con
yention. That is the principle which he has here
and now presented TO the convention When the
question itself was before the state convention, it
Is true, as has been stated here, that no discus
SIGN took place, and it with the greatest diff
iculty that we could persuade and prevail on the
! majority Of the convention TO admit us on equal
terms with those who are opposed to us in
the county OF New York, having ac-
complished that and having also pointed
out to them the danger of what they were going
10 do we have no other resource, no other oppor-
tanIty but to appeal TO a Democratic convention
to give to the delegates from the great state of
New York an opportunity to vote for their choice
| in this convention. The gentlemen say there
are precedents for the position assumed by Mr..
Grady. My recollection goes back to the con-
vention Of 1874, the very same question came mp
in that convention and by the WISH the will and
good feeling and liberality which prevailed among
the delegates, it was conceded that man 5
I voice representing a constituency in a Demo-
cratic convention should be ignored. Applause I
viii not trouble the convention with history of
| the Democratic conventions from that day to this,
! but hope that this convention will take into
consideration this important point which desire
to present to them. Suppose that yoH disfrau-
chised the three Democratic counties 10 which
have made reference, what will be the feeling of
the constituents that have sent their delegates
here to represent them? In view of the fact that
a majority of the delegates representing the
state of New York are in a minority in their own
counties, will voices then representing the
majority constituents be stifed in a Democratic
convention? / appeal to the gosi sense, to the
liberalty, the sound Judgment and the wisdom
of the delegates here assembled to give the
Democratic constituencies the right which
they expect for themselves, and having, Mr..
Chairman, said so much, and not desiring to
occupy the convention any further on the subject,
Iavra afp tod to oil 81, 4 .,,.I
and hope, as | said before, that the question
will be met with that liberality which it deserves
from Democratic convention. Applause and
cries of question:,
The Chair-Mr Fellows, of New York, has
the floor
John r. Fellows of New York-Mr Chairman
and gentlemen of the convention: My assoc
ciates and majority of this delegation have re-
| qGested me to address the convention The last
words which the state of New York will have to
say, so far as this majority is concerned, on the
very great and important question now awaiting
your decision. Sir, there has been an extraordi-
nary lnsapprehension of the issue which is in
VOWED, indicated by the very eloquent
| addresses of the gentlemen from
California and others. The question is no
that of sitting the voice or repressing the senti
ment Of any delegate from New York, or
any delegate on the floor. The question is as to
| whether the state of New York has the right to
say how the viii of her majority shall be nidieat-
ed on the floor of this convention. New York
has something of pride in her greatness, Vast
in her resources. vast in her population, com
handing in the attitude she occupies in the sis
| terhood of states, she desires to come into a
Democratic convention, as she has desired to do
for than forsy years, giving all of the dign-
ty and weight in character to her
! voice, and her sentiment that she possibly
can, and she has always stated as she states to-
day, that she viii not permit, il the delegates
obey her instructions, she will not permit seven
! ty-two separate nnits seventy two conflicting
| sentiments and desires with regard to any ques-
| ton on the floor of convention. loud APP
plause. She recognizes the Democratic method
of asceFtaning what her viii is How shall