The Anderson intelligencer. [volume] (Anderson Court House, S.C.) 1860-1914, 1884-07-31
A Talk With John Kelly.

SARATOGA, n. Y, July 25. Among
ernor Aiken, of South Carolina, aud Mr..
John Kelly, the Tammany chieftain.
Thirty years ago Governor Aiken and
John Kelly were both members Of Con.
gress and occupied seats near each other.
During their term Of service in Wash
ipgton they were constantly thrown tc.
gether and became quite intimate and
friendly. More than once since the war
Governor Aiken has met Mr.. Kelly and
has renewed his old friendship, being
always received by the New York politi.
clan with great cordiali,y. Mr. Kelly is
staying at the Grand Union Hotel and
Governor Aiken at boarding house on
Franklin street AS soon as he was in.
formed that SIR. Kelly was in town, the
old Governor called on him at the Grand
Union and had conversation with him,
in which Mr. Kelly expressed himself
much more positiYel, aud definitely Us TO
his position toward, Governor Gle ,eland
than he has at aDy time done since the
Chicago Convention. Your correspon.
dent was present at the interview, and
was somewhat surprised at the freedom
from reserve with which Mr. Kelly spoke
The Darty occupied a sofa in quiet
nook Of the grand parlor and coyersed
unir terruptedly amid the dazzling scene
whic ch surrounded them. Mr. Kelly was
attired 10 a plain gray suit and held q
straw bat in his hand. Any one who
had never seen him before might recog-
nize him at glance from his resen-
blance 10 the caricatures in IucE's and
Nast's cartoons. He conYerses with great
ease and flucDcy. After the exchange
Of few con'nonplaces the conversation
mutually turned upon the all absorbing
topic-Clevelan1's nomination and the
chances of his success. Mr.. Kelly gave
q very full and interesting account of the
position taken by Tammany in the Til
den campaign, the Hancock campaign
and the campaign in which he Kelly
ran against Robinson for Governor,
which resulted in the election Of Cor
nell, the Republican candidate. Coming
down to the approaching canvass, Ir.
Kelly said:
II shall vote for Governor Cleveiand
and hope he will be elected, but l AN
afraid that his conduct while Governor
has estTsugcd :, poFtioE Of the working
men in New York. His veto Of the five
cents Elevated Railroad bill mas been
especially condemned by the working
men, and | am doubtful if Governor
Cleveland could carry the State Of New
York" But, said he, Il shall vote for
him, and hopo to see him elected"
The impression which Mr.. kelly's re.
marks left upon the minds Of those who
heard him was that as a Democrat he in.
tended to vote for Cleveland, and as a
Democrat he hoped to see him elected +;
but that, while he would do nothing 10
bring about his defeat, he would not
exert himself to elect him. There was
no bitterness in his remarks about C!eve-
land, his feeling seeming rather to be
that Cleveland was not as available q
man az some Others who might have been
nominated. Mr. Kelly did not express
himself very clearly as to the attitude
which Tammany, as an organization,
would take. Perhaps he did not know
He, however, said enough in this con-
nection to make the inference very clear
that Tammany, as an organization, will
support Governor Cleveland, but that, in
his opinion, its full vote will not be
polled. In other words, that Tammany
cannot afford to support Blaine, and that
there are enough good Democrats in the
organization 10 make Tsminany, as a
body, support Cleveland, though there
are disafected menbers who will not
vote at all. How large the percentage OF
aoreheads is no one seems to know but
it seems to be the general impression
among the other politicians here that the
Independent vote for Cleveland will far
outnumber and outweigh any loss which
he will sustain from the indifference OF
opposition of members of his own party
The effect of Mr.. Kelly's whole con
versation was to leave the impression
that the opposition to Cleveland would
not be in the nature of an organized
movement, but would rather be the result
of individual indifference or antagonism
He did not say this in 80 many words,
but the Inference Was :aiE oas f:o:p the
tone Of his remarks.