New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-10-28
THE BEECHER-JOY CONTRoveps,
THE LONDON DISPATCHES FULLY Axns
EXPLICITLY CONFIRMED. o
Mr.. DEEcnER's MEMORY AID MANNERS pyc, 49,.
To RE AT FAIrfr --n

Mr.. DEECHER's MEMORY AND MANNERS pycr A..
TO BE AT FAULT.
TO ire Edftor Of The Tribune
Sir. / have read, think, everythnv w,,-,
has been written relative 10 conversations 1sas
Beccher processes TO narrate ne having taken o. M
table In Detroit some years ago. when he was me- ssw
time my guest. note especially the lenet,sps 4, 49,.
his letters to General Alger about ~.
knowing full well. therefore the present .ta,s n, ~
controversy. and knowing. also, perfectly tho rso,.ss
ton which did take place at that time ran sals .,s
tho most absolute certainty that mover sid ma, ~
any other conversation with anybody. that Mr. ,,.ss
when speaker. made ofior ptororltlnp dt,r..
through third person. that he would appoint s,.
mitire 10 snit INC az rut mah uop that commit AZ ...
as wished n would hny little iioek and Dor, s.,,..
bonds Of HIN ~ par otherwise This periseil, ss,
tain,
lie never sent nan ~ % make any such eres..,
ton within day or iva. a. MG haeoher says or Al -
other time This VIII think dispose Of thess ALA a.
tona Of Mr. heeoher,
While state these things with clear certainty 70 n
regard t. them do not Say that Mr. Hecoher sa "a n
tnonta liar" or that continental fasehood lies
tween him and myself His memory, from lapse OF tim.
or Influenced perhaps by his feelings and wishes IA Ger
ainly fault In these respects was simply stating.
conversation OF third party with Mr. Blaine as stated
by that party 10 me-
Mr. Beecher while not recoectng II correctly I'm IN.
most material part. seems To think that respons
bic for that conversation, and that asserted that
was true not only recoeeted them but he reeo
lects it now and more, that asserted the truth Of ,a
inference he himself draws from ii he thinks IA
rememberst Nothing could be wider OF the mark On
course do not know whether the saon with Mr.
Blaine was correctly stated to me or not but do know
that stated It as It narrated To .corree,I,
as far rs remembered II, and also know that thers
was no possibility In the narration oft that could have
stated as Mr. Beecber has it, that Mr.. Blaine sea, 70
me in day or two any proposition OF any form hn
whatever That would have been clear statement Of
my own, while was simply narratiDg conversation a.
reported to me by third party OF which such asset
ton could form no part
While with regard to these things and Mr.. Bcechers
statement acquit him Of all except faulty memory,
perhaps not strange with him in the circumstances vita
his temperament, cannot say much for his conda
a. gentleman for bringing into controversy OF this
sort by the use trying make Of free social ccnyr
saton with him while guest AT my table. and where 10
puts his memory against NINE seven or eigt Years ar
wards and practically takes an oath that MS Is the inak
bic memory and that mine l. wholly al iauit;
saw an interview purpOting 10 he WIN MN puDnshet
in Truth years protesting 10 detau these sams
statements of his They get into the newspapers now
from him and upon his authority. IL matters lttls
whether he makes his statement verbally
paper he knows it will be published, or whether b
sends it there over his own signature. Inc breAeh
of proprety Ia the same. and when The state
Inenis are stated 20 be inaccurate be follows then
up, making sharp issue assuming his memory 10 e IN
able To prove that deliberately false IN my fos
lection In which am quite likely certainly 10 De cor.
rect as ANYBODY else cannot but feel tba lot ehesb
invited TO all the freedom of table conversation, hu
drag of it, in distorted form and with untrue ~
dons to it, before the public at such time anu OF sa
purpose. with the assertion thaL 90 hot ieuensg
IL lust rs he does one OF in his language conf
mental liar aud that he IL not that one IL the crosses
possible breach of every rule Of good society NJ Wen
Inconsistent with the character OF gentleman
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