New-York tribune., 1884-03-27
VAN SANTVOORD UNDER FIRE
Mr.. CoNKLINGs CRoss-ExAMINATION.
THE EX-SENATOR IN SPARKLING MOOD, WITH IN.
TERVALS OF REFLECTIyFNEss.


Mr. Eyarts carefully removed bis tall hat aud bis
coat and deposited them In safe place near the SGTo-
gates right hand. ExJudge shipmsn John ordronaux
and Aaron Kahn fell into line at Mr.. COnkngs left while
United States District-Attorney Root aud MI Kunz-
man extended the legal array on the right
Mrs. Maria Helen Hoyt appeared some nfteen
minutes before Miss Mary Irene Iioyt
arrived in company with female relative. Mr. Conk-
ling greeted Mr. shipman with stately Good morning.
Judge shpTnan," asked him II he "came down In MS
chariot" and then appeared ready to dispose OF Mr Van
SantvOord. The expectant witness hal been sitting in
patient waiting, and at 1lO o'clock took the stand Mr.
Couklng left the lawyers table and stood the wit
just outside The railing. He arranged his polkadot
tie, and then began his Are, as follows
Mr. Van santvoord have you refreshed yourself since
yesterday-about dates, meant
Mr. Van santvoord-Yes sir, have obtained neoro-
Mr. Conkling TO Judge shipman) What was that Ian
archB0logicallistf
hr Shpman interpreted the expression TO Mr. Conkling,
who exclaimed Obi" and then proceeded to nterrogats
Mr. Van santvoord regarding what took place June %
and 20, 1892 when the will engrossed and signed.
The witness insisted on calling June 20 "day OF the
week" Mr.. Conkling finally induced him to say Mon.
day" Mr. Van santvoOrd had no knowledge TO wheth-
eror not the viii deposited with the Safe Deposit Com
pany Mr.. Conkng broke in upon the witness as he was
about to explain Mr.. Evarts protested The
ex-senator tuned upon the exsecresry hsughty and de-
cared that he had iBterruptedthe witness. The
sci the other side doing the inerTurting he said.
Mr. RooI insist that the counsel is not treating tho
witness fairly II he continues this method OF eXaInns
ton 1 shall continue TO interrupt him.
Mr. Conkiing-Ih3t's right.
Mr. Van santvoord stated that took tho will directly
to the surogates Office without reading it to tho
family.
Mr. Conkling-Wl you tell me why you took this short
Mr. Evarts-T object to abort cut IIaughterl
Mr. Van santvoord-If you viii permit me, will sx-
plain
MI Conkling (raising his hands in horor)-oh, don't
You hurried the win into the Surr0gates Office and got
admitted to probate the earliest possible moment did
Mr. Van santvoord-Yes, sir
Mr. COnking-Your dealings in all this matter wero
more with Alfred than with Samuel or Reuben HOyl
Mr. Van SantyOOrd-IeS. never saw the certificate o.
Jesse HOyts death. / was informed in general way
Mr. Eyarts-Is this intended as evidence in chiefl 7
interpose objection TO the pursuit OF this line OF in
qury, unless, as your Honor may think
Mr. Conkling It IrniRg blsndly 10 Mr. Eyartsl-Now,
submit that that this sayery ingenious way OF entangng
The surogate-I assure you that do not intend to
have my ears entangled by either counsel
Mr. Conkling-NOt al ALL your Honor only thought
wen 70 expose the ftve aud ingenious cayort of tho
Mr. Evarts C6landly)-I don't see any objection to
that
telme who came from Saginaw 10 attend the fu-
nersli 49,, -, IL.
Dir. Conknng-0h. you mean there was delegation OF
The surrogatestrke out the delegation.
A YAwN, AND A SMILE ALL AROUND.
Mr. Van santvOord then testified that the will sent
for printing on the day OF the funeral this point the
witness yawned. Mr.. Conkling turned smiling the
array OF lawyers, who in turn smiled. The Surrogate
smiled and the ripple broke into laughter among the
of spectators Mr. Van santvoord said that tho
day after funeral he tho house OF Mrs Hoyt
10 explain the will to her He continued:
She was alone in the back room whom saw her. ] did
not say There's copy Of the will there's million for
YOU" / read her the clause ia W hch she given
81 100000 for her use with the power 10 dispose OF
$750000 of at her death She expressed no surprise
She did not ask Inc Il there was any provision for public
charity.
husband had made a win in which there provision
for charities
Odd you say that public charities were fraud and
that her husband did not believe in public charities
Odd she say that Mr.. Hoyt did believe in public
charities and had fully intended to provide for themt
Odd she say that Mr.. Hoyt and Mr.. Lowther, who
interested in charities had had many conversations
Mrs Hoy said that the provision was much larger ono
than she expected; that she did not want much.
at the windsor This was on August is, iss2
Odd you then know Dr Hall. the keeper of don't
know what it Is caled-Of al insane asylum or a mad
house near Philadelphia Cunning to Mrs. HOyt-I viii
find the name.
Frankfort seven miles from Philadelphia.
MI Van santyoGrd1I saw Mrs A Hall with Mary Hoyt a,
\. HOyt and Nr. Van Sehack accompanied The
q gaSS Ss n aI Ho Mary n H Ho on was s there aT
after the funeral, after saw Mrs. Hoyt.
tnE large enSng To bs e Go S una
special keeper Of Miss Hoyt and who kept perpetual
Foyt that had copy of the will and we sat down Oh
Q.-,Did that open the exerclsesi Al don't know
Q.--Did you then say to her. "You no crazy
than OF the rest OF the family" ANot in that con
nection.
Q-Did you begin by looking intenty at her. ard then
use the eIpressi0n2 A-Thats all pulled out there.
Odd Miss HOyt say to YOU that she had been com
PEELED In order to get permission her fathers
burial to give the promise that she would return TO the
asylumi A.-Not I'm that fOrm in that connection.
She said that she would not violate her word She said
home. was told that she was in the charge OF her
o~what did you mean by saying yesterday that Mary
HcJt was not IN custody Al did not know it
Mr. coURlns tdespsirngiy5 CANT your Honor shut
him OF ro the witness Did you tel her that her
fathers estate amounted TO $lOOC0,O0Oi A.-No. l
first that IN The Herald
Mr. Conklng sarcascally)-I would as lief take tho
Did Mary Hoyt tell you Mr.. Van ssntyoord. that she
would have 10 return to the asylum for only few
Guilty / had with you Yesterday.
Mr.. Conkling angryl.-YOn viii oonnnein in that din
statement how long this young lady keptn
the asylum A.--No, SIR.
the cars-did yod hear anybody say: :" Three weeks
more"9 A.-NO. IeXteDded my hand to her and asked
her how long she would remain IN the city She said she
would have conversation with her mother that evening"
and the matter would be determined upon then asked
her In order TO know how much time there would be 10
serve the papers OF citation
MISTAKES or GREAT MEN
recess was taken here After the Mr. Cenkling
epdeayored to learn from Mr. Van santvoord the location
of Philadelphia The witness said that the Court of APP
meals had decided that Newersey lay between NewYor
and Peunsylyania. Generally. in going to Philadelphia,
one would pass through NewJersey, although might
60 around by water. "Or by balloon exclaimed Mr.
Copkling Mr. Van Santvoord was positive that Phia-
dephia Law the road Washington The ex-senator
seemed pleased TO learn that The asylum near Phil
adelpha aud out OF the jurisdiction OF this State.
Jesse Hoyt the witness stated Of the largest
oDerators IN grain Ia the East only two three men
were more intrepid But" Mr.. Van SantvO0rd added
che sometimes made great mistakes"
"Yes" said Mr.. Conkuns metlitstyey, "al great mea
la mi