Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1884-06-12
ABOUT TILDEN'S LETTER.
THE TALK AT THE CAPITOL.


THE TALK AT THE CAPITOL.
Discussion About Candidates-Bayard,
Cleveland, Flower, Slocum. McDon.
aid, Hoadly, Etc.-Fears About bay.
ards War Record, and that John
Kelly Will Knife Cleveland.
The Tilden letter was the general topic of con-
versation at the Capitol to-day. There are q few
democrats who cling to the idea that Tilden can
yet oe prevailed upon to accept the nomination,
but the great consider his letter to be final
and irrevocable. "Now whom shall we uominatee"
was the question that almost every democrat put
to political associate. The names OF Bayard,
Cleveland, Flower, Mcdonald, Hoadly, Thurman,
Field, Slocum and Rosecrans were mentioned, but
the decided drift OF sentiment was towards two
men-Bayard and Cleveland. II the opinion OF
democratic Congressmeh Is any criterion the party
Is very likely to take one Of these two men. The
only point raised against Bayard was fear OF his
war record. Democrats who admire him sincerely
admit that they are afraid that his alleged SYM
pathy with the south during the rebellion would
greatly assist the republicans In q revival OF the
bloody shirt Mr. Bayards friends however. main-
tain that his loyalty cannot be impeached upon
any Truthful grounds, and they say that his emil
6e 5ent and high character would rem
ger futile all onsaughtS to his war record; that,
In slort, bloody shirt campaign against him
would be failure.
WILL TAMNkNY SUPPORT CLEVELAND?
In discussing Cleveland many expressed fear
Gratis admit that they cannot carry New York with
out the active aid Of John Kelly. year or so ago
Cleveland refused Tammany some state patronage,
which the bosses wanted, and the Tamnany sena-
tors combined with the republicans to prevent the
confirmation Of certain nominations made by the
governor. At the opening OF the last state cam
Grady senator %ho Saa aa TING
opposition to the governors nominations, be not
nominated. Kelly gave this letter to the press and
ing to interfere in elections. There was then an
open feud between Tammany and the governor.
Kelly has declared that he will support any body
nominated by the party. but he has In the past
given an ostenslble support to democrats and
slaughtered them by secret orders to his sub
bosses. This Is what democrats fear, and II Tam
many objects to Cleveland that viii put summary
end to his "availability.'
'sTALKING OF sLoCUM AND VOORHEES,"
Representative Forney, Of Alabama, said: "We
are talking Of Slocum and voorhees, now-New
York and Indiana. Slocum was great soldier, and
is strong in New York, and voorhees, would carry
Indiana"
"Yes," put in Representative Culbertston, OF
ticket"
Then the names OF Cleveland and Bayard were
discussed, and both Messrs Culbertson and Forney
agreed that Cleveland would make strong candi-
New York democracy. 81 don't Know" remarked
Gen. Forney, ''but that Cleveland and Hoadly
nOulu Uc OuT strongest Ulcket."
Senator Ransom, speaking OF the Tilden letter,
said: "It's grand letter." The senator is very
partial to Bayard, but wants, he says. the strong
est man nominated, whoever he may prove to be.
Senator Mcpherson says it is great letter. He,
too Is very friendly to Bayard Mr. Mcpherson be-
lieves the republicans intend to make a bloody
shirt campaign. "rhe republican majority OF the
Senate" he said, twill refuse to adjourn until after
the democratic convention, and then they will at
sn
10 proceed calmly and carefully in making ticket,
and to put forward its strongest men.
CONCERNING FLOWER AND CLEVELAND.
New York democrat, who claims to have accu-
rate returns from the democratic county conven-
tons Of that state up to last night, said, to-day
that OF the delegates to the coming state conven-
ton SO far chosen Flower has 119 and Cleveland a.
that by Congressional districts Flower, up to the
present, has Cleveland 1, and one is In dispute.
Opinion OF the House Democrats.
CLEVELAND THE COMING MAN.
Mr.. Tilden's letter Of declinat1on was not re-
ceived with surprise on the House side Of the Capt.
toL Most OF the members express satisfaction, and
nearly all seem to experience a sense OF relief
They generally say it is an able letter. we expected
1t. 1t b pity the old mans physical condition is
not as good as his mental AS to the situation now.
MIR. Cox, OF New York, meets it charactertStically.
He says 1t reminds him Of the school girls defni-
tion OF chaos-A big pile Of nothing, and no place
to put it."
Cleveland seems to be the favor1te, however
Nearly every democrat In the House agrees that his
depends upon the action OF the New York prima-
ries- Mr.. Curtin says that New York will have the
controlling influence, but he cannot say to whom
1t will point. Judge Van AlStyhe says that there
is no doubt that New York will support Cleveland,
and he viii certainly receive the nomination, with
western man, probably Mcdonald, Vice President
He says that Cleveland VIII be acceptable 20 Mr..
Tilden and Tammany Will not hesitate to support
him. The talk about Flower, he says, is all nom
meets Cleveland is strong with the business men,
and would receive the support OF every business
man in the state Silent work has been going on IN
his interest for six weeks 1t being about that
long that T1lden would decline, and canvass was
kept quiet only to allow the letter OF decnation to
be made public Now the boom Will begin His
vetoes, he says, far from making him unpopular,
add TO his strength, his reasons being good and
clearly set forth. He is known to be a simple.
plain man, and friend to the masses His veto OF
the five-cent car-fare bill is now acknowledged by
every one to have been just and his veto message
one OF the best state papers ever issued by any
Judge Van Alstyne said, "and will carry New YORK
by not less than IS, 600 majority"
MI. Murray says ne thinks that the declination
OF Mr.. 11lden is fortunate. Now the field is open,
and Cleveland will be nominated. with western
man, probably Mcdonald, second on the ticket
held in the highest esteem in New York, and is
very superior man.
MIR. sprlggs the friend Of Ttlden. says that he
but says that probably Cleveland stands a good
chance. New York, he thinks, viii decide the
question.
Mr.. Morrison thinks Tilden's letter is good one,
but refuses to discuss the situation. When asked
who would probably receive the nomination,
he answered that he was not talking about that
Mr.. Holman refers to the letter as ian American
classic" but says that it will take time before
affairs will settle SO as to admit OF clear 1udg-
ment OF the situation. The mind Of the party had
been concentrated upon the old ticket, and it viii
take sometime to look about for another.
THE COMBINATIONS MOST TALKED OF
are Cleveland and Mcdonald, Cleveland and HoadIy.
and Cleveland and Carlisle. The most work seems
to be for the last combination, and q poll OF the
democrats In the House would probably give 1t
large majority for this ticket
Chairman Cooper ex-mayor OF New York; was at
the Capitol to-day discussing the situation with the
leading democrats, and 1t is rumOred that his mis-
sion is to work up boom for Cleveland and Car
Isle. When a STAR reporter called upon Mr. Car
isle to-day for his views upon the situation Mr..
Cooper and Mr.. DOrShetmer were in the Speakers
room The Speaker said 1t was too soon after break
fast to have come to conclusion as to the candi-
dacy. The letter settled the question OF the old
ticket He was not prepared to say who would
occupy the most prominent place now; but prob
ably those gentlemen (pOinting to Messrs Cooper
Both these gentlemen seemed In a good humored
frame of mind and Looked cheerfully upon the
situation. Mr.. Dorsheimer said that he thought
Cleveland was In the lead, but the New York CON-
ventiOn would soon meet and settle that He
favored Cleveland, and thought the state would in
struct him. "We are for Cleveland was his quick
spontaneous reply when first asked who would be
nominated. He at first refused to name the man
for the second place, but seeing that the Speaker
had become engaged in conversation with another
caller he said In tone intended for the reporters
fhofC Tor no p ma