The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1884-12-28


priving the opposition you would create
of the only right left, to vote and be
voted for2
Mr.. Thomas-That would be the hope
entertained You must understand
that three-fourths of the officers would
have to be MOrmonS, because Gentiles
could not be found in three-fourths of
the counties to take the offices.
Query-Admitting that you are right
and doubt that Gentiles could not be
found to take any office-would it not
be matter of right that in Territory
where there were 10000 Mormons and
about 25, 900 Gentiles, the Mormons-
since poiygamists are not counted
should be given the great preponderance
of offices? Should they not have them
all according to political usage and the
fulfllment of the principles upon which
this government is founded, that the
majority shall rule, where they do so
within the confines of law justice?
Mr.. Thomas-That, probably, under
and probably would be in Utah with the
appointive power.
| Query-One question more, Mr..
! Thomas, and | shall not worry you
further. Even if the people could be
convinced that the power to appoint
given to the Governor, might be of ben
| eft to them, do. you believe that any
! Mormon in Utah would have confidence
in any appointment Governor Murray
"a man who holds Office solely on the
! ground that he is an enemy to the Nor
mon people could make or would
suggest?
Mr.. Thomas-To that [ cannot
answer. but you must bear mind
that this recommendation is made in
the face 9th incoming of new admin
istration, when all politicians must eX-
pect to accept the fate of political de-
feat, and when it is reasonably to be ex-
pected that Governor Murray will not
continue long in Office. A new governor
might have their confidence, even were
to admit that Governor Murray has
not.
Q.-To drop that, how are matters in
Utah? What is the sentiment about
Judge Zane?
Mr.. This recent decisions sustain
ing the City of Salt Lake in its war
against gamblers, is having the effect of
convincing the people and newspapers
that he IS good lawyer and courage
Gus man. His course in regard to the
liquor cases s endorsed heartily.
Q.-Then, if they admit him to be a
good lawyer, it must be admitted at the
same time that he knew his ruling in the
open venire matter was outside of law
The presumption must be that the rul-
ing was solely for the purpose of secur-
ing change in the jury system by
showing that it was inadequate?
Mr.. TT cannot say as to that; but
there is no question that the jury is not
large enough as at present provided for.
On Monday last motion was made
before the Supreme Court of the United
States by EX-attorney General Wayne
MacVeagh, to advance the hGbeGS corpus
case of Rudger Clawson, now in the
Penitentiary of Utah, pending All ap-
peal againsta conviction for polygamy
and cOhabit9 ton. The matter was very
briefly stated and the hearing on the
application for hdbeGx corpus has been
set for Monday, January 5th, that being
the first day after the holidays. The
case is filed with Hon. F. S. Richards as
attorney, from which it Is concluded he
will be present.
The opening of the New Orleans Elk
position by President Arthur, at the
White House, on Thursday, was an
event of no little Importance. A COM
mittee from the Senate and House re-
presenting each State and Territory
Hon. John 7. Game being appointed to
represent Utah-was present, together
with number of prominent persons
who had been invited. Among them
were the aged, renowned and smiling
historian George Bancroft, now in his
S4th year, the cabinet officers, Mr.. West,
the English ambassador, Baron De
Strive, the Russian Minister, and his
wife; Senior Valente, Brazilian Minister;
Senior Valera, Spanish Minister, Wis
count Das Nogueiras. Portuguese Min
lister; the Chinese and other legations,
and Lawrence Barrett, the trage6ian,
to the pressure of the crowd it was impos-
sible to note whether he had on his half
maroon hose or not. Also Capt. Eads,
Asst. Secretary Davis, General Van
Vliet, Mayor Smith of Philadelphia, w.
W. Corcoran, B. Lewis Blackford,
General B. H. Robertson, Dr.
and Mrs. Frank Loring and
many others. Among the ladies
were Mrs. Chief Justice Waite, Mrs.
Justice Field, Mrs. Senator Miller, Miss
Dora Miller, Mrs. McCulloch, Mrs.
Frelinghuysen. Miss Lucy Freling-
huysen, Mrs. John Davis, Mrs. Carlisle,
Mrs. Brewster, Mrs. Blatchford, Mrs.
McMichael Mrs. Senator Hawley, Miss
fOOCe, the MISSES w est. MIS-. ana MISS
Cullen, Mrs. Angus Cameron, Miss
McCulloch, Mrs. Henley, and though
last named, not least notable, Mrs. Belva
A. Lockwood, lively as ever, notwith-
standing the recent damage to her tri-
cycle by collision with carriage: and
In spite of her recent defeat in the cleo
ton for President, as energetic, vivacious
and smiling as ever. Mr.. Blaine is not
half the man that Mrs. Lockwood is.
She bears defeat like a hero. while he
well, and the word that rhymes with
well, will explain his condition so far as
public repute tells the truth.
Ex-Governor of Utah, Geo. w. Emery,
has been staying at the Ebbett House
for few days He left last night.
P. T. VanZile is still here, as is also
Judge Foreman.
The House is having an interesting
time in connection with the interstate
commerce bill, over the introduction of
the color" question by the Republicans
to defeat the bill
1t has turned very weathery. 1t
blows and SHOWS at furious rate, and
the end does not appear to be yet. The
merry Jingle may be expected.