The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1884-08-27

reduced estimates of the Minister Of Finance ver'
read before the House, why did not the Attorney
General get up and object to the excision OF thai
item. Why did not the rest Of the Cabinet ooleel
to it? BY their silence they approved of It aro
made II their action. since the Appropriation
Bill had been recommitied there had been a whole
month IN which they might have filed their OBJ,
lection TO the sacrifice Of that item, yet they mac
not done it. Too late now. The whole circun-
stances show that that was not mistake OF the
Cabinet. II WIS done with deliberation, and as
they had done on many other occasions, they
simply changed their minds. In regard 10 private
lobbying at Washington. he knew nothing about
it. but this Government had nothing to learn
about lobbying, and the destinations that had
been made came with bad grace from member
of this Cabinet.
The Attorney General. (interruptingl; l did
not say that the Government lobbied at Washing
ton. said private parties -
Representative Dole, continuing, said he thought
the tue inwardness Of the attempt TO revive this
item bore a relation to the honorable member for
Honolulu himself. That gentleman bad love
for travelling especially when he could travel AZ
the expense Of others. II may be that the Cabinet
do not wish for this item at all. his EIceuency
had made motion 70 have it reduced TO Sl,2OO.
The speaker could not look upon II but as a
private fund, proposed. because the member for
Honolulu wished TO 60 somewhere When We
look back 20 the request for economy from his
Majesty. the Opposition had tried to carry
it out. We find this item was one of the largest
reductions that His Majesty had asked them 70
make. II they inserted this item and went on IN
that way restoring everything that had been re-
duced 1t seemed 10 him to be treating His Majesty
with disrespect. All the readers Of local news
papers in these Islands and abroad would decide
that this House had no respect for His Majesty
and His Majesty no influence IN this House, anu
they will think that his Cabinet are doing their
best to bring him into disrepute. The Ministry
and their following have strennously opposed HIS
Majesty requests and have ignored them. he had
been Informed that this money was desired Tor a
Of
that the Minister Of Foreign Affairs desired such
a mission, but that Minister had informed him
that such n mission was not desired nor even
thought of. As it was not wanted for that pur-
pose and not needed in Washington, the only
thing left, outside Of the plans Of the member for
Honolulu, was the matter Of 4 cable between San
Francisco and Australia, IN reference to Whleh
some one might be sent as an ambassador TO VIC
toria and matters of thaLkind howeveric could be
attended to by letter, and if not, great company
like the one in question could afford TO send us
messenger here. They were afraid to appropriate
large sums of money out of which unimportant
missions could be sent TO all parts of the world;
Representative Hitchcock considered I h Q
question to be whether it was necessary that any
money DO appropriated Tor foreign missions. ne
thought some appropriation ought to be made for
that object. He thought the money expended on
the Iaukes mission was wasted, as the shortest
way to Japan was via san Francisco and not by
Russia. They did not know, however, what ext
gencies might arise. Some money had always been
appropriated ne iaNofeu tHe inOtion tiAi SA-iV0'
be appropriated.
The Minister of Foreign Affairs thought it was
reasonable that certain amount should be appro-
priated for Foreign Missions. He thought II was
unreasonable that on the second reading the House
struck out the item altogether. When the report
of the Minister Of Finance was prepared his col
leagues were not ignorant of 1t, but decided to
leave this item the House had left 1t at second
reading. Now, the Honorable member for wal
luku had used rather strong language-charging
the Ministry with casting indlgnity upon His Ma
iesty and also said that they had lied. he would
be clad to look into this matter and ask who th Q
parties are who have lied in this matter of retrench
ment. The Minister of Finance recommended
various reductions in salaries. They had all been
advanced and he had seen those gentlemen put up
their hands in favor of the increased sums. The
Ministers recommended that nurseries be put at
$1,000, but the Hon. gentlemen-not alone how
eyer-had put il up TO $4,000. The Ministers rec
commended that the Survey Department pass at
$4,000. The Representatives have advanced It to
S3i 900. In Immigration a reduction OF Sl5O,OOO
was recommended but large increase was voted
instead Ii was not the Ministers who had been
making these advances, but Il was gentlemen OF
the Opposition along with other members OF this
House. it NAV be said that 1t was the JOINT work
of all The gentleman says that we are classifying
our position when we favor this single item. The
items Of retrenchment proposed by the GoVern-
ment have been so utterly disregarded that It was
not strange that the Ministry would but for a sin
gle moment be carried along with the popular tide
at the head Of tOrchight procession and declared
thatlthey would stand by various items OF retrench
ment they stand equally charged with all the rest
of the House in advancing appropriations They
have not stood up to their record on that
II had been stated that there had been great deal
of money spent to little advantage by ENJOYS sent
from this country, unnecessary lunketing, etc
Now, Immigration had been, and IS one OF the
most vital questions relative to the future devel
opment of this country. No one ever complained
of paying the expenses OF tue Hon. MI. carter 10
complete the work pertaining to Portuguese I'M
migration. There were good reasons why proyis
ion should be made for foreign missions by this
House and they should not be discredited as had
been done. He did not know Of any special neces-
sity for a mission to England and France, but
thought if our means permitted we ought to have
a permanent Minister resident in Europe, at the
Courts of London and Paris. The Government
had been invited by the American Government to
take part in the international exhibition to be
held at New Orleans, and he had intlmated to the
American Minister that he would recommend the
measure to the notice of the Assembly. The Gov
eminent had also been invited to take part in the
settlement of a universal meridian. All these
things required more or less money. He thought
$4,000 would be too small for the proposed appro
priation, $4,000 might be too large, but $4,000
was the least that should be voted.
The Ayes and Noes were called and the item
passed at $4,000 on the following division;
Ayes-Gibson, Gulick and Neumann, Dominis,
Bush, Kaas, kRuoa, Walker, baulukou, keau,
AnArN, hAullls AuOlOs hhulahtltf ANhLllluf hhuAh-
mano. Palohau, Eupiboa and Nakaeka.-20.
Noes-Bishop, Isenberg, Judd, Martin, Lilika-
lAni, c. Blown, kalun, Richardson, haneallt, w.
o. Smith, Gardner, Hitchcock, hauwila- kauhane
Pilipo, q. Brown, Dole, ROwell.-l9:
sfesent and not voting. Hons. J. Slott Smith,
Cleghorn and Macfarlane.
Representative Kaulukou moved aid to military
companies in the kingdom SlOs,OOo: Lost.
Hon. J; Z, Bush, aid to volunteer companies
$4,000. Lost.
Representative Kaulukou, item, Kings Guard
and other companies $4,000.
Pending discussion the Assembly at j05 took a
recess until O'Clock pm.
EVENING
The Assembly rcc1nvened at 7:15 being called
TO order at that time by the President
Representative Kaulukou moved to amend the
item relative to 'he Kings Guard TO read king S
Guard and other Government Guards SSs,OOO.
Hon. Paul Isenberg moved the item pass at
$4,000. He said in support of his motion that,
he considered it the duty of the House to provide
a guard of honor for the King, more than that
would be q mere farce. The weakness OF the
nation was its strength and so lcngas the motto
g Ia hdA Ee Ia 0 81 Alma kH P0Ho" rules here
so long there need be no fear of disaster and
50 long will We not need an army.
Representative Dole spoke at length on the sub
ject closing by saying that he considered $4,000
ample for the Kings Guard and advocated $4,000
for Volunteer Companies as follows; Princes Own
5000, Kings Own 5000, Honolulu Rifles 5000.
The Minister of Foreign Affairs stated that the
Government had no military policy He
considered that $4,000 would be about the proper
amount He drew checks for the amount expended
on Military but did not know the details of ex-
penditure.
Representative Kauhane would have voted cheer
fully to appropriate something for the Honolulu
Rifles were it not that they showed degraded
spirit in having drinking and hHig dances under the
auspices Of their captain.
Representatives Kauhane, Keau, moved the in
sertion Of sums for the volunteer companies. Lost
and the motion passed at $4,000 for all Govern
ment Guards.
Representative Aholo moved the increase Of the
item Education. of Hawaiian Youths abroad TO
$35 900 from $2j 900. Lost.
Representative keau moved an item, Messenger
Foreign Office S1,2O0," Lost,
Representative g. Brown presented the following
list Of creditors account Coronation, viz: O. H.
Judd 81 96s.SS, Wilder q Co. SI,779.l9. q. Lucas
$2lO.JO, Goo Kim 800, Il. II. Foster Co. 81, j..
t. waterhouse 1886, $. Magnin $593.65,--$S.
II. M Chamberlain Ss67S2, total OF 50, 1853 %,
and recommended that the amounts be placed in
the Appropriation Bill.
Representatives Dole and Smith supported the
motion and 1t passed.
The Minister of Foreign Affairs moved that the
sums Of 5000 be inserted In the Bill for the
relief of Curtis p. iaukea, 10 noel Indebtedness
incurred while abroad
Representative PalOhau thought that the much
travelled Colonel ought to be well satisfied with
ont askinr for any indemnity. Hehad probably
Paris, with the money. The speaker would not
object to mourning n like amount Of expense if
he could have had as good time. Laughter
Motion passed lG to 10.
Representative Smith, for the third time, moved
to close the items in this Department, carried.
At 9:l5 Representative Dole moved to adjourn;
tie vote and motion lost by President Rhodes cast
ing his vote against
INTERIOR DErAErAfEET.
The salary of the Minister was increased from