National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1884-05-29
The Senate Debate the Bill During the Entire
Day.
Some Lively Passages Of Words Be-
tween the Participants,
The Amendment Requiring an Applicant 10 DO in
Need 10 Secure Pension Stricken Out
The Legislative and judicial Approprin-
ton BIZ Considered I'm the House.
THE SENATE.


The Mexican pension bill camo up In the
senate yesterday. the pending question being upon
Mr.. Logan's motion to strike out the part OF the
amendment proposed by the senate pension COM
mittee that limits to ex-sodiers and ex-soilors
who are dependent in whole or in part on their
1wn labor or ON assistance of others. This was
discussed by Messrs. Allison, Beck, Logan, Voor-
noes, jackson, Blair, Mcpherson, Sherman, Maxey,
ingalls,, aud MorguD.
disguised ut the spectacle presented by this de-
bate.
way for question.
Mr.. Morgan said yes.
Mr.. Van Wyck remarked that he would like TO
osk the senator from Alabama a question just at
this point because that senator nad become SO
gloomy about tho debate.
Mr. Morgan retorted warmly, Don't insult me
when you wantto ak mo a question. Ask mo your
question like gentleman"
Mr.. Van wyck said there was no occasion for
so much feeling on the part OF the senator.
He then inquired whether it just to give n
wealthy man. who had been Mexican soldier.
sSa month. aud giye only thatsmall Pittgnce to a
poor fellow who had almost TO beg his bread in
Mr. Morgan thought It would DO no compliment
10 the rich mnn, but 1t would be great boon to
Mr. ingalls, moved to lay on the table the amend.
nent proposed by the senate committee restrict
ing the pensions 10 those who depended Oh their
lnbor. The motion was agreed to, and the amend
ment was laid on the table-yeas 40. nays 2O-as
follows:
YBAs-Messrs, Allison, Bayard, Beck. Brown,
Butler, Cockrell, Coke, Cullon, Dolph, Fair, Far
ley, Garland, German ,Groome, Hale, Harris, Hill,
ingalls,, Jones lFlorlda), Jones (Nevada), Logan,
Mcmillan, Mcpherson, Malone. Maxey. Miller
(California), Miller (New York;, Morgan, Palmer.
Pendleton, Plat, Ransom, RiddleDerger, Sawyer,
sherman, Slater, Vest, Voorhees,, Williams, and
Wison-i0
NXYs-Hidrich, Blair, Call, Camden. Cameron
Hawley, Hoar, Jackson Lamar Mitchell, Morrill,,
Pike, Plumb, Pugh, Salisbury, aud Van Wyck
20.
t.ltt Ia. 4,
repeats the section Of the revised statutes that pro-
hibts pensions to soldiers who engaged in rebel
lion against the United States, but limits the re-
peal to cases coming under this act The senate
committee recommended striking out the limita-
tion. but the senate, on motion OF Mr. ingalls,, by
vote of 80 yeas 10 % nays laid the amendment
Mr. Hoar moved to amend by providing that
the act should not apply to any person who is not
such person has reached the age of 40 This
amendment, on motion Of Mr.. Williams, was laid
on the table-yeas "a, nays 20.
Mr.. Hoar moved IN amendment extending the
provision Of the bill so rs to include all soldiers OF
the union army who served in the war for tue
suppression of the rebellion.
Mr.. Logan remarked that he supposed this was
offered In order to kill the bill.
MI Hoar replied precisely The bill, he
SAID, rested on the altogether untenable principle
OF giving pension for service. Ii that principle
were sound, there was no reason why 1t should
not be applied to all soldiers who had served in
any of the wars of the United States and there
was no logic by which 1t could be withheld nom
them. We were also bound to make up 10 them
for our failure 10 give them the pension in time.
as had been done by giving arrears of pensions.
This would simply add 500 100000 or 1925, ,00C
year to our expenditures for pensions
Mr.. Van Wyck said the amendment suited him
exactly, although 1t had not been offered in good
faith. He believed We ought to give pensions to
all our soldiers who had fought to suppress the
rebellion, and not wait till they were too old. We
should put ell our soldiers ON the same footing
He protested against the principles announced by
Mr.. Hoar
Mr.. Riddlebergcr ironically suggested TO Mr.
Van Wyck whether 1t would not be well TO give
pensions to the soldiers who fought on the south
ern side of the late war as well rs the northern
He SAID he made the suggestion so as to give Mr.
Van Wyck something to talk about.
Mr.. Van Wyck similarly inquired in his turn
whether Mr.. Riddleberger would be willing to see
pensions given to the soldiers OF the Mexican re.
public who had been beaten by ours, and to the
descendants OF the tories of our revolutionary
war.
Pending debate, the senate adjourned.
THE DISTRICT APPROPRIATION BILL.
Before adjournment Mr. Plumb, from the COM
nittee on appropriations, reported the District Of
Columbia appropriation bill, and said he would
tall II up to-day after morning business.
THE coPIAH REPORT
Mr. Hoar offered a resolution, which, under the
xule goes to the committee on printing, providing
for the printing OF 10000 copies OF the report
the Copiah county affair." together with the testi-
mony taken by the senate committee and the
views OF tue minority.