Arizona weekly citizen., 1884-04-19
TWENTY-TWO
Years Among HOOfs and Horns. A few Words of Interest from Mem-
 Ory's Note Book.
What ID. G. Sanford. Esq., Said to Journal Man. The Brother of Hon. Don A. san ford Expresses His Opinion
 Upon the Cattle Trade
 in Arizona.
Arizona Live Stock Journal.

before us, We took seats, and the result of the conversation will be found inter- esting to our many readers. The JoUB' NAL said: "Mr. Sanford. how long have you been in this territory"
 Mir. Sanford-I came here first about twenty-two years ago. shall never for get those early days. Things were net as they are today. Now We live Tn quiet, civilized land; then it was wild and perilous. But then I spent about four years of this time in California and Texas. I have beer here continuously since 1874, the last time.
 Journal.-It Is sometimes remarked that the northern part of the territory IS better adapted to stock growing than this section; how is that?
 MT. S.-True. Some of the men say that because they happen tO be north, but I have been in every section of all the country within our borders, and have yet to find so good h place as this southeastern corner. It has always been my aim to locate as fay orably as possible, and assure you l would not tarry in Pima county, if it dId not suit me. I have made the territory q special study III these years, and am more fully persuaded than ever that l am in the right place.
 Journal.-You have observed the large herds coming among us for year or two past. Is there any likelihood of Ov- restocking the territory?
 NIT. Swell, that is hard question to answer, but there will be no danger for long time to come. Of course, 1t may go with us as 1t has with Texas, for there some of the men already be- gin to turn their attention to farming, saying there is not enough room for the stock man-this especially in the north ern part of the state.
 Journal.-Most of our stock men say the present season IS good, and likely to remain so; do you agree with them?
 MT. S.--Yes. We have fine start, and believe the whole season will be favorable. have never seen a more promising one in all my experience
 Journel.-Pretty good ranch, of course; how large?
 Mir. S.-The ranch is just about twen- ty miles square. Just such a place as q man wants, and is capable of holding six or seven thousand head of cattle in perfect order. have worked hard on the place, and after an abode of eleven years, have the whole thing in very fair shape.
 Journal.-Hsve you ever felt uneasy about the grass supply:
 N S.-Not in the least. We have Bl- ways had plenty of grass and water from one years end to another.
 Journal.-And the quality of stock, what is it!
 Mr. S,-Pretty good; am improving all the time by the use of the best bulls I can buy. Most men have a choice among the various breeds, and l think the Short-horns are uppermOst in my opinion. have one bull that cost me S1, 300 on the ranch.
 Journal.-How son will weIbegin to send beef from the territory in large quantities?
 MT. S.-That is a little uncertain. You see it depends largely upon the number of cattle that come into our midst within the coming two years. Ac- cordiug to the present increase, Tn three years we will begin to be heard from, not only in San Francisco, but New York, Baltimore and Philadelphia,
 Journal.-But what will be the best early market?
 NIT. S.-San Francisco, of course. The few Io:s We have thus far disposed of have been well marketed in California; but once We begin in dead earnest, We will have to look further.
 Journal-Will 1t pay to ship gre.t dl,- tances 10 the east, by rail, al the present rates of freight?
 MT. S.-That is something 1 cannot tell We will have to experience trial before we can solve that. So far as I am concerned, do not think the cattle men of Arizona will Lave any trouble with the railroad companies. I think if the cate men will be courteous, the railroad authorities will do their part, and We will be able to say: All things work together for good
 Journal.-What rank do sheep hold in your estimation?
 MT. S.-Not very high one. Not that do not like sheep or consider them a paying investment, but simply because do not believe 1t is a good sheep country. I think the greatest ob- jection is the trouble at lambing time. Everyone knows that tender grass, and plenty of 1t, is very essential at this par ticulGr time, and We do not generally have a sufficient supply. In the east they can have patches to suIt themselves. but here, in so vast territory, and on account of certain circumstances tIding agaiest us, we cannot do 1t.
 Journal.-Horses?
 Mir. Swell, it Is as good for horses as it is for cattle, and the former can claim all the right and advantages of the latter. In fact, for both it is as good or even better, in my estimation, than any place in the world. 1 intend to stick to the cattle business for some time to come, and if I ever give it up, l will remain in Arizona. l will never leave the terrritory, for the purpose of moving elsewhere. I am a New Yorker by birth, but went to California in the early days, and then came here. From here 1 went to Texas, but az l stated before, l soon returned, having become attached to the territory from the first.
 Journal.-Some men say We are not entirely safe here. How IS 1t, are we much disturbed?
 MT. S.-I freely testify upon this point. From the reckless days of years ago down 10 the pesceful days of the pres ent, l can truthfully say We have fared well. True, We BOW and then lose a COW or two. or perhaps horse, but this ever occurs in the east, and surely we