The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1884-09-19
TALK AMONG POLITICIANS.
What TRANSFERRED at the Meeting Of the
So-Called Liberal Germans.
The Calkins-Gray Debates-An Irishman's
Ietter--Ex-GOvernOr Baker with the
Party Of the PeopIe-Notes.


One hundred and ninety-six persons tthis
figure includes a delegation from a German Re
publican Club) met at Mannerehor Hall last
night. The meeting was called ostensibly to
agitate the question of personal liberty, and an
effort was made to give the assemblage the APP
pearance Of an outpouring Of German liberals.
The whole thing however, soon showed itself in
its true colors, cut and dried affair, the man
agement Of which was in the hands Of Adolph
Seidensticker and John Frenzel the Democracy
of both Of whom is unquestionable August M.
Kuhn, who short time since indignantly de-
MED being Democrat was made chairman,
whereupon all the ROSTERS in the coop of a
neigaboring grocery crowed Justify.
Mr.. Seidensticker made a wordy and windy
speech on sumptuary legislation, and ended with
a denuneiation of the Republican party and
James G. Blaine, and eulogistic of Statesman
Cleveland, after which Gabriel Schmuck twher-
ever Mr. Seidensticker is, there will Gabriel be
also) read series of resolutions, denouncing
the Republican party for everything, and com
mending the Democratic party for everything.
The chairman had the resolutions unani-
mously adopted after the usual Democratic
style-by refusing to ask for the nay vote.
Hereupon Otto Stechan rose and said that he
had come under the apprehension that the meet
ing was one called for liberal Germans without
regard to party-that such was the inference
from the call-but thus far he had neither heard
nor seen anything that would allow him
meeting He called Mr. Seidenstieker's
attention to the fact that the Baxter
law, to which he had referred in his speech, had
only been made law by the signature Of Thomas
a. Hendricks, now the Democratic candidate for
the vice-presidency, and that when he signed 1t
he had just rallied and come back from the
point Of death. He called attention to the fact
that the constitutional provision that Mr.. Seiden-
stleker was so much agitated over was recon-
mended in his message to the Legislature by
Isaac p. Gray, now the Democratic candidate
for Governor of Indiana, and advocated by Jason
B. Brown and Robert G. Bell, both Democratic
leaders in that Legislature,
At this there was great disturbance and loud
cries of Put him out, and it was very evident
as the voices grew louder and angrier, COMPEL
ing Mr.. Stechan to stop speaking and take his
seat that this meeting of personal liberty
was opposed to some kinds Of liberty, especially
freedom Of speech
Mr.. Bernhammer and Seidenstecker, encour-
aged by the mob, each delivered himself of o
rampant Democratic speech without being dis
turbed, the contrast between their treatment
and that bestowed on Mr.. Stechan, who had
spoken calmly and gentlemanly, being so great
that August Fable, Democrat but fair
minded man, rose and said commenting on the
disgraceful attempt to squelch free speech, that
be hoped those who might want to speak there
after would be treated with decent fairness.
About this time the howleFs got their second
Wind, and recognizing the fact that they had
made bad showing for personal liberty, the
leaders suddenly adjourned the meeting,
AS an attempt to capture the Republican
Germans and lead them into the Democratic
camp. the meeting was signal failure.
THE JOINT pEBATE
Correspondence has been exchanged for some
time between Colonel Gray and Major w. H.
Calkins and between the chairmen of the Dem
ocratic and Republican State central committees,
relative 10 joint discussions between the two
bates have been agreed upon, but the effort was
to extend the number to thirteen, one in each
district. To this after some delay, both eandi,
dates agreed. But before the chairman of the
Republican committee replied to the last letter
a meeting of the State committee was hastily
called, and appointments for Colonel Gray ar
ranged, so as to preclude the possibility of fixing
dates for further Joint meetings The last letter
that was sent was from Mr. New, as follows:
MDIANAPoLIs Sept, Is, 1884
Hon Eb. Henderson. Chairman Democratic State
Central Committee indianapolis, Ind:
Dear Sir. Yours Of 18th inst at hand am ready
t. ee6 0n At fny e ba tor e do Ct
discussions between Mr.. cakins and Mr.. Gray. I
suggest that they begin Monday, the 18th of Oeto
Der. following the dates already fixed and continue
from day to day, until at least one joint debate he
held in each eongressiona. distinct in which meetings
JOHN G. NEW Chairman
What resulted can be best known by reading
INDIANAPOLIS, Sept ID, 1884.
To the Public: On the receipt of q communication
nediately held between Messrs New and Henderson,
and mutually agreed that on account of the individual
appointments Of the respective candidates for Coy
visahie. EB HRNDERsoN,
JoHN O. NEW, chm Dem s. Con- Com.
Chin Rep'n S. Cen. Com
This concludes the matter The four debates
heretofore agreed upon will be held at Fort
Wayne, Lafayette, Greensburg and Terre Haute.
The dateof the meeting at Lafayette will prob
ably be changed.
AN IRIsH0fANs LETTER.
Hon. John Scanlan has received the following
letter from Martin McDermott, q Democratic
Irishman Of Aurora, which makes interesting.
reading for Irishmeni
AURORA, Ind. Sept. II. 1884,
'saon.i John b. Seaman, Indianapolis
"DeaR Sir--Your grand epistls Of Sept. 5 re-
cetvedr and in reply will say that lam delighted
at the independence Of my cOuntrymen. F find
bH3m oMurd0lhS Vio Solueh opportunity anu
falling in line under the banner Of Blaine and
Logan in every town. Another grand feature Of
the campaign is that the gallant soldiers that
carried the Union flag to victory are all for
Blaine and Logan 1t really seems pfov1dential
that the Democracy selected Cleveland, the
most bitterly hated foe, and the Republicans
Blaine, the beloved friend, of the Irish PEG
pie and the working classes. Any IrishmaR
who win vote for Cleveland and Hendricks will
be casting his vote IN the interest of England,
who has BY their iron heel driven as and orr
fathers from the dear Green Isle beyond the sea.
Democratic leaders denounce Irishmen because
they show they, are no longer Democratic slaves.
Mr. Campbell Of Ohio; says. n understand
going to vote against Cleveland and Hendricks,
all have to say then is, the quicker they do It
the better, and may God help Them Mr.. Bragg
said in the Chicago convention that he loved