New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1884-04-01
Mr.. WALLING AND Mr.. FRENCH
THE LATTER DEFENDS THE FORMER.
THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID TO BE "BRoKES VI"
HOW HIS PLACE CAN BE FILLED.


concluded yesterday before The Roosevelt Commit
teo, at the Metropolitan Hotel The audience was com
posed largely OF those who present on Saturday
Police Commissioners French Nichols and Matthews
made their appearance by durngt proceedings
Mr. Roosevelt, Mr. Erwin, Mr. Nelson and Mr.. Welsh
were in their places. Mr. Miller was most active in the
examination though he occasionally assisted by the
chairman. Mr.. Peckham present for short time
only.
The attention OF Mr. Waing first called TO gen
era order issued in June 1872 bearing upon the sub
jet Of without the knowledge OF inspectors and
captains OF precinct and providing that In case OF COM
plant respecting such arrests charges should be pre-
fired by the chief clerk ans those officers; and Also
general order subsequently issued requiring the officers
and paromen to exercise the greatest diligence in their
efforts TO break up gambling and dsordorly houses. The
witness then reminded by Mr.. Miller OF number or
specific instances In which had been broken up
without the Intervention OF the police He was asked II
there had not, in fact, been at least fifty such
within tho last four years He replied
that he did know and that he had 20 recollection OF
anybody calling his attention to any such arrests. He
claimed however that the Department had itself made
large number OF aud that whenever could get
evidence It did Mr.. Miller nstanced the case OF
place occupied by Gal" Adams at No l02 West Thirty
second-s, upon which it alleged that two or more
raids had been made without tho aid OF the police The
witness replied that he knew nothing Of it. His attention
had not been called it, and II It had been he would not
have hestaed TO investigate it, He was asked II he read
the papers, and answered that sometimes no did, where
upon the chairman said
II certainly would not DO asking too much Of
you that n You cannot get information in any other way
you should read the papers Here Is case after case IN
which the press the city that the police having
failed to break these places they were broken up Dy
outside parties. Don't you think you were remss IN your
duties IN falling TO anything when the instances were
Of such common notOrcy that the press had them A.
do not reooect hearing Of any Of the cases named
Mr. MillerIf you knew OF thing to-day no" iOhg can
remember i'll Al might forget IL tO-nOTrOW
InleAt remember it for twenty years
The witness stated that he had doubt Captain VIII
Jams had reported certain places as reputed gambling
houses He asked he could, in view OF that fact
give any reason why Captain Williams had not broken
them up
The witness cannot give any excuse If be can procure
Q-is there any reason why II place is known
gambling house It cannot DE broken upl Al do not
O-And il a CAPTAIN performs his duty in a given dis
trict he will break theInupl Al think 80.
Mr Miller inquired whether he had ever heard that
there two sets of policy hackers In New-1Ork ana
that set protected by the police and tho other was
not replied that he had heard there were two sets OF
policy hackers but he had heard that SET was
protected i'm the way indicated. man named Lutboy
had TO his house sunday and intimated
desire for protection and he had ordered him out OF his
house.
After long series Of ncrrogatores touching upon the
operations Mr. Comstock and his associates and their
failure to receive proper aid from the police force re-
speeding all which Mr.. Walling pleaded entire Sno
rance Mr. Miller asked if he had ever heard that any mem
Der Of the Police Board In the habit Of going to
gambinghouses
The wtuess-I did hear that Mr.. French reported
IS going into gambling houses. but heard MN say uHV
he mad never been in gamblng-houso IN AeW-1orH Ill
Or you had had your attention called to the fact
that of the Police Commissioners had been seen III
You have considered it your duty follow it upl Al
do not think that would have been called hpon to hunt
| t,,t1fao fnn
QIfI 10 call your attention to case in Wnlcn
brought the evidence to show that certain Commissioners
had received money for protecting dsreput9be people IN
this town, would you follow upl Al should SEND IL
TO the DstrictAtorney Ipossbly might refer the mat
ter To magistrate.
As rumors and charges circulation TO tho ef
feet that captains OF police had received money from dis
reputable houses Mr.. Walling said:
intendent where the Police Commissioners directed
10 make investigation relative to captain charged
wi h taking money. I went the house and they all
positively declared that they had mover paid cent OF
money.
This statement created considerable amusement and
led Mr. Miller ask whether Mr.. Walng thought that
detective with an ounce Of gumption would take such
course in attempting TO get the truth The supernten
dent added with emphasis that he had assured the In
mates OF the house that they should be protected they
would only tell the truth.
CHIEF CLERK HAwLEY CALLED.
The testimony Of superintendent Wallins was given in
manner that impressed one with the fact that he de-
sired to tell the truth but 1t showed lack Of knowledge
respecting important details connected with his office
After few scattering questions he was permitted to
leave the witness chair and his place taken by Chief
Clerk Seth c. Hawcy Of the Police Board, WHO
testified that he was serving his twenty fifth year chief
clerk OF the Board He was first called upon 10 IDENTIFY
certain papers In connection with the trial by TIE Boauot
Patrolm3n NathaA Le3ileh III t S "a .
preferred by Anthony Comst0ck ana ms associates INC
charges were presented to the Department on July o.
| and on the 18th were referred to the Board.
The trial was set for September 6, before
appeared and the trial was proceeded with notwhstand
Ing the absence Of Mr. Comstock aud his witnesses.
! who had requested that tho trial be dererredf
until September 49, owing to Mr.. ComstOcRs
inability TO attend on the date originally named MT
lre read the record OF the trial the result being that
the complaint against Patrolman Lemeln was dismissed
between tho date which the charges presented
and that Of the trial He explained that me TeaS2n to
note in lead pencil the papers stating that hs request
for postponement had been made was overlooked Mr.
ba Miller oa "sSF% in wPrh tas we're Conducted
before the Board. The witness replied that II
was an extraordinary case. The note in pencil
was udistIncty written. Mr.. COmstOCk had written his
letter containing the charges to Inspector Murray Ii the
letter had been to would have been treated as pat
OF the evidence IL had been sworn to ana there was
no proof that what stated was true II they had dis
BY tho courts MI Miller asked whether If the Commits
sonors had been requested to reopen the case II cou
be reopened by Commissioner after final Judgment
had been passed
PRESIDENT FRENCH'S TESTIMONY. :
Mr. Hawley was briefly examined as TO the details Of
appointng members Of the police force and finally
excused In order stephen French president or
Police Board, might take the stand. Mr. french
was r-t questioned in regard to his knowledge Of pre-
sentiment made by the Grand Jury against Captains
Williams and Allaire. He said that the Board had
caused n letter to be written 70 the foreman OF the
Grand Jury and its clerk asking them TO un an tho owl
dcnce taken before them, but they failed TO do So That
was the action the Board at that time, and, evil
dcnce being obainable further efforts were put forth
! respecting the matter.
MIR French subsequently announced his desire to mako
a statement and he heard. He said 81 think
n IA due to a that i know thoroughly
and whom know to be houcst man as there f. on
the face OF the EARTH and that Superintendent OF Pc
lice Waing that should state some facts respecting
him In the rst place course know that he IA getting