The Hawaiian gazette., 1884-09-03


question, as though politically responsible for thl
acts of their colleague they were not personally
Hon II. A. widemann. referring to expenditures
in the bill by Cabinet Council, said there was Nc
such thing allowed by the laws OF this country
vac time that Indemnity bills had been familiar tC
the Kingdom. but never before had there been ons
amounting 20 S1Ti,Oo0. He declared that tn'
amount under Government buildings and hospi
tals,- had BereI. bees al sl1sHde8, whatever hac
become Of the money He appealed urgently tc
| the House of Representatives If they valued no
erty to insist upon a thorough investigation OF the
bill The item referred TO, for one, was Absolutely
Illegal notwithstanding he had heard gentleman
stake his legal reputation upon the contrary. dc
/ would stake his ON its not being So
The Attorney-General claimed that some OF the
| principla items had been authorized BY the Loan
Act of ISS2 and need not be there except that ne
had advised the Minister to place them there. his
conclusion vas that all the items were perfectly
explainable, the only ones of which he was igno-
rant being those for indemnity OF Judges hapena
and Duncan McIavish.
RepresentatiFe Dole said tho question was
whether the bill should be considered item by
item, and as the Attorney General had aduiitted
that he was ignorant of two items he 1.-THE A. G.l
was entitled to have those two explained. Int
only LEGAL expenditure was that authorized by the
Appropriation Bill. Never before had this coun'
try been asked to shoulder such an Indemnity bill
He was sorry the Attorney General had not the
COURAGE Of his CONVICTIONS IN recommending thar
the Bill 1t was no wonder the Attorney General
coming only so recently into such a wilderness oil
accounts cot muddled. They had the same opiu-
ion from the law adviser of the Crown when dis-
cussinr the Finance Committees Report and be
evidently does not understand the Government
Loan Bill yet.
The motion to discuss the bill item by tom was
lost and the motion to pass the bill to engross-
ment passed, upon the following division:
Ayes-Gibsnn. Gulick, Neumann, Bush, haae'
Kanoa, Walker, Keau, Macfarlane, kaulukou, La
likalAni. Baker, Amara, Asa haulia, Aholo, hama
kele, Gardner, NAHUM, KAunamano, Palohau, hu-
pihea and Nakaleka-2.
Noes-Bishop DOminis, Wilder, lsenberg, Dow
sett, J. Mott Smith, Widemann. Martin, halua,
Dole, c. Brown, Richardson, kanealii, W. ",
Smith, Nawahi, kauwila, Pilipo, G. Brown, Howell
and Kauhane-D.
Second reading Of bill TO repeal the Act OF
ISIS TO provide for the lighting of the city OF Ho
nolulu with gas passed and ordered to be reada
third time on the 18th inst.
Te bill to regulate the sale Of spirituous liquors
was reported back from the Revising Committee,
but had TO be returned for the correction OF fresh
errors
The bill of practice in suits for the recovery Of
personal property was being read third time,
section by section, and the first six passed,
when the intTOducer, Representative w. y. smith
moved that the remaining sections be referred %
a committee OF two, which was carried, and the
Attorney General ana Representative Smith were
appointed as such committee.
The bill to organize the military forces OF the
Kingdom was read q second time.
REPRESENTATIVE W. o. Smith objected to the fifth
section on grammatical grounds, saying II was
simply ridiculous as it stood. Section .. The
Chief of Staff, by approval OF His Majesty the
King shall from time to time issue and proclaim
such rules and regulations for the informal econ
omy of tho forces in time of peace or otherwise
the Regulation of the Army and NaEy."l
Representative kaulnkOu moved to have the bill
considered section by section, which carried.
Representative Dole moved that the first section
and the whole bill be indefinitely postponed. He
did not know how it was with the Hawaiian yer-
sion. but the English was an incomprehenslble
tumble The ninth section provided for the arrest
Of n Certificate piece of paper.
Representative Smith-He is wrong: its the po-
lice Judge who is TO be arrested.
Representative DOle-Ihe honorable member
saws | am wrong.
Representative smith, was wrong: it's the en-
listing officer.
REPRESENTATIVE Dole-Here are three interpreta-
tons of this section within five minutes.
Representative Smith commented upon the an
preparation Of S13j.OO0 contemplated by the bill,
after the Appropriation had been gone through
The Attorney General admitted certain incon-
pruities in the bill. but said it had not been so
written. and asked where the bill was printed Al
though he favored the motion, he, deprecated the
attempt to make fun Of the bill. His objection TO
it was that it was untimely, and he seconded
the motion to indefinitely postpone it.
The motion TO indefinitely postpone was carried
by the casting vote of the President, and recon
sideration was lost ON 4 similar division.
At $50 pm. the House adjourned till 10 O'Clock
on the morrow.