The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1884-07-30

Committee on such DAYS closed public roads
The poor were asked to contribute that millionaire.
like Spreckels, half millionaires like Wilder and
| rlcn people might enjoy themselves, race and bet
and have n spree afterwards. If the Park Asso-
othe; day.
Representative T. Brown said not cent had
been charged for admitting people.
Representative Cecil Brown said the member
| Tor Lahaina did not know what he was talking
about The gate money vas used for the purses
and general expenses of the races in conjunction
with subscriptions raised in town. No charge has
ever been made except on June 18th, and on that
| day the Association had nothing to do with the
management, they simply leased the grounds to
the Race Committee for the day. The Association
| had spent over $4,000 in improvements already.
The $4,000 asked for was TO plant trees and i'm
prove the place. The governments was in receipt
OF large taxes from the residences which were
around the park and which would never have been
built but for the park. One capitalist had spent
$4OOOO on his house, The roads were maintained
| by the Park Association. Thsir only income was
$50. All governments supported parks. San
Golden Gate Park. The Kapiolanl Park Associa-
ton did NOT allow gambling He was in favor of
the item being referred to a committee.
Hon. II. A. Wideman contradicted the statement
made by Representative Kalua with regard 10 the
sale OF vhlskey in the Park with the knowledge of
the Association 1t was not true. He presumed
when there was a hunt for wh5key it would be
supplied illegally Just as opium l. He stated the
object for which the race was gotten up to take
place between Mr.. Spreckels and Mr.. Wilder. 1t
was to buy carriage for the sisters of Charity at
hakaako. Whoever lost was to pay for the car
mage. lie was not a betting man, but he would
for this object challenge Mr.. Kaulukou TO a race
down to the Park for the same object. (Laughter.l
Representative Kaulukou declined, as he was
going TO KOolau- (Laughter.)
Representative Smith said he waited in vain TO
see where the economy going to DO started.
Appropriations were twofold useful and luxurious
He approved of the Park, but we were not in pO-
sitlon to afford improvements. $4,000 had been
voted for the water supply of the lepers and hardly
dollar had been spent. The poor creatures are
suffering for want of water. A member of the
party Just returned from Kalawao had told him So
The landing was three or four miles from Kala-
wac and the people had either to drink brackish
water or pack it down on their backs. Nothing
had been asked for these pipes this year. now this
was necessity. He moved that the item pass at
S2,5OO. Endorsed the remarks of Representative
kalua. Public gambling was damaging. He was
fond OF horse racing, but four years ago he had
found so much cheating on the track that he had
never been since, he was so disguised.
Hon. H. A. Widemann asked for the name of the
Hon. members informant with regard to the lack
of water at the leper settlement.
Representative Smith.-"Chas. b. Wilson. He
returned yesterday and that is his clear testimony
He says the reports of lack of water not e1ag.
gerated.n
Hon. H. A. Widdemann said he had been to the
leper settlement often, officially and unoficially.
Had never heard complaints of want of water ex-
cept on the floor of this House.
Representative Godfrey Brown said the House
was talking of kapiolani Park and had wandered
off to Molokai.
Hon A. S. Clegnorn said the income to the
Park had been $4,000. 1t had reached that amount
by adding the amounts realized by the sale of lots
to the subsidy paid by the Government. There
were no more lots for sale at present; $500 for
the ensuing biennial period wodld be of little or
no use at all.
Representative Cole said that they ought to set
the race course apart from the Park. The Park
proper was widely different thing from the race
track. He considered race-cOurses were demon
alizing all over the world. He asked if any of the
appropriation had been used for buildings on the
race course.
Representative Cecil Brown-"Not a cent"
Representative Dole proceeded, and stated that
the effect of the Park had been TO considerably in
crease the value of land belonging to the Luna
lilo estate, bordering on the Park.
The motion to refer the items to a committee
was carried.
Hon. G. II. Bishop objected to the item for copy
ing the records. 1t was objected to last session.
The work ought to be carried on by the clerks in
the Department. He moved to strike the item
out.
The Minister of Interior said that volumes l. 3,
80 and 10 have been copied and compared. Volumes
8, 4, z, s, were still uncoped. II the item were
struck out the work must stop. 1t could not be
done under the circumstances, even under favora-
BILE conditions they would not get on fast. These
were original records beginning from 1913 and
were very valuable.
been going on for six years and they had got
through . volumes, that was less than Il book
year. AT this rate it would take six years more TO
finish them, If man cannot copy book year
there must be something wrong about somewhere.
The amendment was lost and the item passed rs
in the bill.
Representative Smith moved that the item for
election expenses be reduced to 500. During the
last two years every expense seemed to have been
growing. He could not understand it. Amend
ment carried.
Representative Kalua moved to insert So for the
services of the clerk of the last election at Puma,
Hawaii. There was a ten minutes discussion on
this subject during which the Minister of Interior
took the opportunity of rehashing remarks upon
the election expenses item which had been passed.
Representative Dole rose to point of order, when
the Minister slipped back to the 50. Finally Rep
resentatiye Baker, amid much laughter, said,
rather than have all this talk he would pay the
bill himself The item was passed.
Representative Smith moved that the incidentals
of the Interior Department be reduced from s 900
to $1,000.
The Minister of the Interior pointed out the in
creased expenditure that was necessary compared
with former years. The Department used to get
the surplus of the Legislative stationary now each
was separate. There were more books required,
cheques and stubs.
Representative Rowell said they had found so
many things Jumped together 1t was necessary to
investigate before passing items. He thought the
incidentals could be cut down. He moved to cut
down to $4,000.
representative lultu pOlHltu out ludI CHEQUES
and stubs came out of the printing and not out of
incidentals.
Representative Kalua alluded to the use of ex-
press wagons and telephones, reading the items as
shown up by the Finance Committee.
Representative Rowelf S amendment was carried.
On motion of Representative Kalua the Com
mittee rose at $50 and reported progress. Repre-
sentative Kalua in making his motion pointed out
that they had finished the Interior Department,
that it was no entering upon the Finance De
partment as the Minister of Finance was not pres
ent aud members would be unable to obtain in
formation when required.
Representative W. o. Smith also alluded to the
three Ministerial seats which were vacant
The President appointed as the Committee
Aid to Parks, etc, Messrs. Dole, Cleghorn, Cecil
Brown, Kalua and Kaunamano.
The following were the items passed in the APP
nrnnriaiior, Ril1.