St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-07-09

lana decided by majority OF hye 10 vote as q
unit on the second ballot for Cleveland. 1t was
stated in very positive way, however, that the
encouragement which the Thurman movement
had received would impel his formal nomination,
and that the speech would be made by Gen.
breckenridge, of Kentucky,
AT least a dozen Ohio delegates declare openly
they will not vote for Thurman. No caucus
vote of obligation on presidential preference has
yet been held, but from various delegates it is
learned that Ohio stands 25 anti-Thurman to 21
Thurman. This estimate is strenuousy denied
by the Thurman supporters, who claim 20 votes.
The anti-Thurman element in Ohio are uncer-
tain whom they shall support Indications to-
night point TO their casting at least portion OF
their vote for Hoadly, whose name will be put in
nomination if Thurman's friends insist on pre-
senting the latters name. After Hoadly, the
anti-Thurman votes on Ohio will probably go to
Cleveland
Ohio holds caucus in the morning before en-
tering the convention. Thurman's friends to-
night state that many southern delegates have
declared their intention to support him. 1t is
therefore psobable that Thurman's name will be
presented no matter what the outcome of the
caucus.
the national convention met tonight in the
rooms of the Missouri delegation to act upon the
credentials of various delegations. The contest
in the Massachusetts delegation was made in one
of the districts and the contestee and contestant
were notified to appear before the committee at
an adjourned meeting to be held in the morning.
The resolution introduced in the convention
by Senator Voorhees,, granting full membership
to delegates from territories and District of
Columbia, was taken and the committee from
territorial delegations were invited to appear be-
fore the committee and present their argument
Samuel Ward, of Montana VIM Dickson and E.
d. Wright, District of Columbia made argument
on the rights of territories to representation and
a voice in selection of national rulers, and the
committee unanimously resolved to recommend
the passage of the resolution to the national con-
vention.
The entire California delegation visited the
Ohio headquarters, and Mr.. Turpey, of Califor-
MIA, speaking of his state, said, that if Ohio
people would abandon the candidacy of Mr..
Hoadly, and accept in mis- place Mr.. Thurman,
the Pacific coast would guarantee to them solid
vote and victory, which he believed would not
only include California, but the entire Union. He
said in conclusion that s'with Thurman's candi-
dacy the Democratic party cannot be beaten Mr..
Cheney his fellow delegate, spoke briefly, in the
course of which he supported the statements
made by his colleague, closing by saying that
there was no one in his hearing who did not feel
an instructive desire to shout Thurman" at
all hazards, and risk the cost.
The Texas headquarters at the Grand Pacific are
largely visited tonight. Gov. Hubbard temper
airy chairman, stood at the end of the room !;
hundreds of delegates and visitors, including
many ladies, passing through, being presented
to him. Towards 10 O'Clock the rooms were so
crowded that admittance was refused.
Daniel Manning and fellow delegates from
New York, addressed delegates, making strong
appeals for their candidate. Senator Lamar
made a short speech in reply, dwelling upon the
the Texas delegation has been made,
but careful inquiry tonight indicates Bayard
has eighteen votes, Cleveland four, while four
delegates frankly admit they are undecided. 1t
is not believed Texas will vote as unit for the
reason that its recent state convention at Eft.
Worth abolished the two-third rule in state and
county matters, hence the delegation does not
feel warranted in exercising the majority rule to
invoke a solid vote.
In the convention this afternoon Temporary
Chairman Hubbard's vote in his delegation was
recorded in favor of sustaining the unit rule
After Bayard, Texas is almost unanimous for
Thurman.
The committee on platform remained in SEES
sion until after midnight. No progress at all
the reception of various memorials and address
es, among them being one from A. NJ Sullivan,
president of the Irish national league of Ameri-
ca on sAbsentee landlords in the United
States.'
Abram c. Hewitt, of New York, Mr. Morrison
of Illinois, Mr.. Butler of Massachusetts, and Mr.
Gwynn of California, gave notice that they would
submit platforms tomorrow for discussion in the
committee.
There mention of the tariff during to-
nights session. The two members of the COM
mittee absent when an organization effected,
in the early part of the evening, were General
Butler and Thos. p Finton of Kansas. Gen.
Butler made his appearance later in the evening
The committee adjourned until 10 O'Clock to-
morrow morning.
After sitting till past midnight the caucus adj
journed without reaching final decision. The
vote on presidential preferences stood: Cleve-
land II; Mcdonald, IL; Bayard, q
In regard to the vote on the unit rule in
convention, Gen. Black, of Illinois, said he
thought it made up of four elements first, nearly
all of Clevelands strength; second, lingering
sentiment of states rights, as indicated in the
South Carolina vote; third, power of machine;
fourth, disposition to refuse any demand made
by Kelly.
The Indiana headquarters both at the Palmer
and at the Grand Pacific, were scenes of activity
tonight Indiana was one of the few states who
cast her vote solid on the unit rule amendment,
thirty votes were recorded "yea" in favor Of
abolishing the unit rule.
In explanation of this vote the delegates say
the motive of Indiana was to break the unit rule
so as to weaken Cleveland in his own state and
scatter votes. The Indiana delegation are conf
dent that Mcdonald is gaining in strength, but
evidences are obtainable that the delegation
keeping in view a second place on the ticket, in
case they fail on the first place.
J.Ia lin, ,at in
tonight for the purpose Of canvassing the ques-
ton of presidential preferences, and at II 80 is
still in session. Delegations from the Cleveland
and anti-Cleveland delegates from New York
we're admitted and allowed to present their cases,
though not without protest from several mem
bers of the Illinois delegation, who said they
knew their minds without ontside interference,
and wanted to settle their own questions in
their own way. There were thirty one of the
forty -four Illinois members present, with Gov.
Palmer i'll the chair The question at issue was
discussed at great length by number of
speakers. 1t is impossible to obtain gist Of all
OF them. Joseph Mann, of Danyille, presented
the claims of Joseph Mcdonald of Indiana, say
ing the state was solid for him. Gen. j. G.
Black made a long argument against Cleveland.
holding that his claims to consideration as a re-
form governor were not well founded,
that his acts were not in the interests
of the common people, that the sentiments Of
the people has changed toward him as shown by
the fact that in year after his election there
was loss Of $4,000 Democratic
votes. so that he came to the pres
ent convention as a candidate from a Re-
publican state. On the other hand he had the
assurance that Indiana was solid for Mcdonald;
that gentleman had a record which would com
mand, the support OF the people. he had been
attorney for corporations, bnt he had also been
attorney for the masses. One OF the
greatest railroad cases, for the ben
eft Of the average citizen has been
taken up TO the supreme court by Mcdonald.
As the hours progressed several Of the delegates
grew tired and left the caucus. Oae leading
delegate said to a reporter for the Associated
Press several ballots were taken but nothing de-
cisive reached. Only thirty-one present. He
declined to state how the delegation stood. The
inference is that in the absence Of thirteen mem
beers of the delegation, it was impossible to mus
ter enough votes for any candidate TO enforce the
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