New-York tribune., 1884-11-17
TALK ABOUT CONkLING.
THE DESIRE TO DEFEAT MR.. BLAINE.
MIR conuAM AT CuiCAGo-A DISCLOSURE III "'''
HART. OF WHEELING.


Mr.. GoRuAM AT cuicAGo-A pis'hoe'"" ~ ~
HART, OF WHEELING.
wuvp,,xo. Nov. f6-C. B. Hart. Editor of The
b,teIUo,pccr will print an interview in the morning
which he had with George G. Gorham III Chicago
at the Republican Convention. which. taken III con-
nect,on with recent to throw some igh'
ON the campaign in New-lork. MI
Hart who was one Of Blane's stanchest sup
porters at Chicago says that ho was surprised W
find that Mr. Gorham vas for Biaineand continues
81 remember that as editor OF The National HePno-
Uoau he had done about all he could to drive inc
party away from Mr.. Blame. ! recalled MS Ill
tmacy with Mr.. Conking, if the relation oe'"eo',
master and man may be spoken VI
rs an intimacy felt that he would not DC at 'h'
COCO as n Hlaine man, if that were displeasing to
Mr.. Conkling. told Mr.. Gorham in ehect' tha''
while knew that Mr. Conkling was not win fresi-
dent Arthur and did not desire his triumph. had
sr,nosed him 80 implacable III his hatred OF Mr.
| Bla,ne that he would prefer Arthur to nm ana
some one else to either of them.
"Tm inst from Mr.. Conkling SAID Mr.. Gorham'
and a n here TO say for him that he desires "'o
nomination of Mr.. Blaine. he doesn't want 10 see
another HAYES nomination. His idea is that the
Rcpnblican party ought to be jnst TO its leaders
and courageous enough to put forth one oi lne' io
the Presidency Ii is evident that the popular cic
ments of the party favor DIaihc anu We "i' so
| do what we can for him..
| "'But some of the New-York Stalwarts here ale
saving that Blaine can't carry New-iork. that lie
would be beaten there by 10000, and they assure
me at the business mems headquarters that Arthur
| can carry the State by more than that
| .sIlat is nonsense said Mr.. German, scarcely
| giving time to come 10
stop. There is no longer stalwar,
or Ualf-breed In New-York. The men who talk that
way to you know it was Arthurs unpopularity that
| overwhelmed Folger and made Cleveland Governor.
In our Judgment Blaine is the best man III the heid
| for New-York. Arthur is an absurd suggestion
| You might as well run Folger But
| there is use OF taking. Dai'o
is the man. This convention is gong to nominate
| him"
"win Mr.. Conkling take an active part In the
eampaignf
"'Can't say Just what Mr. Conkling will do. but
he wants Blame nominated and think that he will
find time to give some attention to the Republican
canvass
"MrGorham's manner conveyed the impression OF
sincerity aud enthusiasm and he did 90 TO Work III
jealous earnest for Blaine. There was nothing 10
| indicate that there was mulderous conspiracy
hack of these professions. I did not suspect that
Mr.. Conkling was engaged to assassnate Mr.
| Blaine, as public man. Strange as this right
about seemed did not put II en-
| tirelv bevopd Mr. Conkng to take a
broad view of the situation. 1t even occurred
IA mo that Mr. Cnnklinu had been shiewd enough
to see the drift of the sentiment that he doSfeI I"
,o.encr puhlic life and that this was his peace oler-
inp to the party in the hope that 1t would open the
door for him gracefully to resume place
fn iion his his hatred Of, President Arthur
other his old srndsc against George William Curtis
aud the others whom he had ddhbcd man nillincts
"Atoseihcr, The situation ,transn ns !, ""n,'"
told of Mr. tiofhams presence aud the conversation,
aud said II was rnrpiiso To me. IL was sntp',s1
to tie chief managers. somebody III the ioon sliu
Gorhau wasn't II man 10 be trusted nnd that Cohk-
ling would not forgive blaine. a. A.,
I" Well, said one. I'VE cant decline the help OF
| ANYBODY that offers IL, but Gorham ought 10 bo
| watched To see that he isn't secretly opeia,ing
against us. If Mr. Blaine is nominated he wiii be
elected The Curtis people may 90 against Us, but
the stalwars won't. The Stalwarts are party men
| who stand by the nominees ,
"Isaw nothing a, any time to indicate tnat ne ne
was doing anything but what be said he came TO
| do and know that he busted himself 10 solicit
votes for Mr.. Blaine TO the great graiihcatloh OF
The present talk about the treachery of Mr..
Conking and his friends recalls another conVersa-
ton this time with a friend OF Mt. Conkilng VINO
Referring to the time of the attack on Mr.. Blaine
| in The Indianapolis Snind and when the disclosure
writes: es: MY friend and Mr. Conklings
were in Mr.. Conklings room, or Office, IN
New York: The Presidency and the nominees nom Were
| talk, became intensely interested in the subject,
sprang to his feet and delivered speech as though
| the applause of listening Senates TO ommand
He took up the Sfaa%s RaSa oRarfs %S fapi ane
Gus bitterness No less bitter because
il was dashed with the keenest sarcasm. lie SAID
| it was a peculiar situation. One nominee hAd
found it necessary TO oblterate the record on MS
honestly by his name, and 10 get the record OF the
| other nominee. the opposing party MAS seaJcnihs
| the registers of certain low resorts i'll Buffalo"
| There was less cIrcumlocutlon and delcacy 0I
| phrase than this, but this will serve the present
| purpose. Conkling justified Cleyeands private
career and quoted history to show that great rulers
| had been strong in their an imalSm
! "My friend told me that he had never heard Mr.
what he was saying, he wonld have it iist,
ened for week lie thought Una,
Mr. Coukling was glad to have an audience though
| a small one TO listen while he raked Blaine"
Nr R'ainc Rain ~ = asked" Against Blaine y You
may Judge for yourself He hates and despises
| Blame . -, n,
Twill Mr.. COnkling oppose Mr.. Blame y
"'Oh, think he will not make open opposltloh'
| if any. but he will do nothing for him..
| Z" II seems that Mr. Conkling did a good deal or
! nothing for Blaine, and now as reward Tor ms
services Democrats propose to make MN Chited
States SENATOR
OFFICIAL FIGURES FROM ONONDAGA.
SYRACUSE, Nov. 16.-The official returns OF
Onondaga County give the following:
For Conorsss-IIlscock (sepl, 17l23; William Porter
| UemJ 1878; ". W. Porter Prol GIG; Hiscocks Plu
For Associa,e Juige Of the Court Of Appeas Andrews
GlepJ, 29.753 Rapalo lDen), 1910; Harrington
| npro). 593; Willard pro-, 557 u ~ ceo
| Tappan