Fort Worth daily gazette. (Fort Worth, Tex.) 1882-1891, 1884-11-12
BEN BUTLER.
An Interview With the Great Political
BUshwhacker.
Cincinnati Enquirer.

NEW YORK; NOV, f.-Cfen. BuIler is
in the city. He says nobody yet
knows the result of the election.
"The Republicans admit only that in
the face of the returns Mr.. Cleveland
has small plurality, That Is all,
That is, that in a total of 200, 600 votes
the footings show him to he-a little in
the lead. How many errors there are
in the returns made or In the footings
nothing but an official canvass can tell.
don't believe that II Is possible for
any set Of men to footup 200, 600 votes
separately, as cast in the different pre-
ci1cts, without making mistakes.
feel Quite certain that errors will be
discovered. They may be In Cleve-
lands favor or they may elect Blaine.
Why, look ut Massachusetts,. The day
after election ii was given ont that
Blaine's plurality was 10000, when in
fact ii was $4,000. Now, there is no
state in the Union that collects cleo
ton returns so rapidly as Massa-
chusetts. There is no polling place
mere than four miles from relay
station. Well, you could put four
snch states as Massachusetts, in New
York, and yet 1t is pretended that we
have the correct returns from that
statep
DAY Gould has sent his oongratula-
tions To Gov. Cleveland" was sug-
gestion If the reporter.
ayes, l know" responded the gem
eral "Last night $4,000 men were
marehing,in the city OF New York and
singing: Hang Jay Gould TO sour
apple-tree.' Now Gould got frightened.
IL wouldn't have scared me. Gould
didn't want TO be hung to sour apple
tree, so he takes an early opportunity
/ to pacify his would-be eXecutloners by
congratulHting Gov. Cleveland. He
knew that if the figures should change
and elect Blaine his congratulatory
dispatch would do him no harm,
while, in any event, it might save him
trouble. Now, 1 don't know, but /
believe Gould was ~ much in favor
of Cleveland rs of Blaine. do
know that Vanderbilt rode two horses.
He sent Depew TO speak for Blaine,
and he gave Cleveland 100000.
shall wait for the official returns OF the
vote of New York. We can't rely Oh
Geographic returns. Dispatches are
often doctored or errors occur IN trans
mission. Now, | want to ask you,
how much of 81, 900, 900 would you pa
out $1,000 at a time on Geographic
orders? Not many thousands | war
rant So it is with these returns tor
warded by telegraph. We must walt
for the official figures. Why, in
New York night before last an old
staff officer of mine came TO me, say
ing he had heard Of dispatch going
over the wire from the Windsor
hotel, signed b. +. Jones, and advis-
| ing Blaine that Cleveland had been
elected. My old army friend was bad
| ly frightened until i told him that
! Jones was not at the Windsor hotel. l
am an old soldier and never get
scared at camp rumors.U
General, was there ever presi-
Dental election In this country before
that depended upon 80 close vote"
mo, sir, never. In 1886 Pennsyl-
vania was the pivotal state and Ere
mont was elected, but q Democratic
returning board discovered that lac
didn't have rs many votes as were cast
for him, and he was defeated. You
/ remember in 1876 the election was
given up for two weeks, but Republi-
can returning boards ascertained that
the vote was different from that cast.
General, did your vote reach your
1 eXpeetations?n
The general had been for moment
! looking over the columns of the New
| York Sun to find the account OF the
men who had been singing, "Hanp
jay Gould to sour apple tree Ht
made no response 10 the question, but
continued to scan the paper. After
4 two or three minutes silence, he ex.
1 claimed: "Ah, here it is. Let mt
read it.n And he read the Suns de
seription of the marching Democrats
who were declaiming against Gould
the night before.
"Now.u he said, fyou can readily
see how Gould felt. He was scared
and we can all readily understand
what prompted his dispatch 10 Mr.
Cleveland.
"But, general, about your vote,
persisted the reporter.
iMy vote, y lac replied, without lay
ing down his paper, was larger thar
expected. You see, my vote was no
counted, except in Michigan. II wa
not cast for me. My vote was thu
protection vote and the lrlsl
vote. and when II wa
apparent that there was dauge
81 Clevelandis election, these men dc
termined 10 vote directly for Blaine. 4
vote for me was only half vote agains
Mr.. Cleveland They saw that. an
cast their votes for Mr.. Blaine. Hence
/ say my vote, except in tlchigan,wa
not counted
The general was In a chatty mood
Int lac did not seem dispOsed to tai
about his party OF its prospects. Il
maintained that the presidential eiei
. / a., .oae s,of aaftfad and that Il mich