St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-07-09

voice of a very great state then, Mr. Chairman,
in this convention. in this great covenant of the
great Democratic partyg Then In this great con-
! vention in this great gathering of wisdom, Of
purity we are prepared to announce and face
that free speech and free discussion are thrown
] out of the window, and the majority of the dele
| gates are prepared to submit themselves to the
| management of few people who operate in New
| York.
The words that l have said, sir, are not for
any particular candidate. Nay, more, they are
not designed to defeat any particular candidate,
| but there is no power in this convention that /
| know of which will make a recording secretary
| place on the minutes of this body living lie
| simply because resolution in the New York
state convention assumes to falsify our votes
/ [Applause.] II the chairman of the New York
delegation records and twenty-fo OF my
colleagues voting for a certain candidate, for
| whom they have already denounced their deter
| mination not to cast their votes, he records Sir
what is not true in fact, and when the secretary
of this convention proceeds to record the voting in
| way that my lips deny. he performs outrage on
i free speech and reduces representative bodies to
| GAmedy and farce, to which hope they will
never be reduced in this land of the free, and
| especially in this council office and enlightened
Democracy. applause.
/ Mr.. Clunie of California-Mr. President and
gentlemen of this Convention: We come all the
way from California to vote for the greatest po-
litcal reformer of the age, Samuel j. Tilden, of
New York. Applause. We look to the great
/ empire state to lead US in this struggle, but we
don't want to start wrong. l apprehend that
| every delegate on this floor who is patriotic
! enough to come here came here for the single
purpose of success in the coming election.
Carter Harrison here got the floor amid loud
and confined applause, during which time the
the chair seemed to be laboring under considera-
BILE difficulty to learn the name of our distin-
| guished fellow citizen. Finally order was
stored and the mayor said:
Mr.. Charman-The question is whether this
convention shall make its rules or not We are
told by the gentlemen from New York, the de-
legates are instructed to vote as q unit. That
may be true. II they faiiedto vote so then they
disobeyed their state. But this convention has
nothing to do with that question. 1t is Tor them
to return to their constituents and to say their
constituents whether they have done well or bad,
! not for lis here. | want harmony | don't know
but when the time comes but the gentleman
| from New York Mr.. Brady, and | may be wide
! of each other 1t is not Il question OF a candi-
date but, sir, suppose the chairman of the state
of Illinois announces that it casts SO many votes
for one man and so many for another, ii he casts
ii improperly have not the right to chaange
that vote? Applause. Yhe chairman of the
New York convention will announce, if he
chooses, seventy-two votes from New York, but,
Sir, a man or a'dozen men, or there may he forty
men say that the chairman has not announced it
correctly ARE we here every question to be COM
PclicC 10 ASK WGeInef the seats are INSTRUCTED
for unit rule ornot! That's not for the conyen
ton to decide. We make rules, and our rules
| should be that every man. when challenging the
vote of chairman, must be heard and must be
righted, and for the sake of harmony il there be
one or two or five votes from state that wants to
| challenge vote, | don't want
rule vote in this state to havea
| two-thirds vote announced false vote. l want
| an honest vote, and shall probably vote in OPP
position to my friend from New York on every
occasion, but want free vote. Applause.
About forty delegates here jumped to their
feet, and after considerable effort the chair final
| ly succeeded in announcing that Mr. Jacobs, of
New York, had the floor, Who said: am of
the minority of my delegation, and one | eXer-
else the privilege of holding against the choice of
the majority, but as a Democrat, marNloyal
omy constituents and obedient to the orders of
the convention that sent me here / bow to the
will OF the majority.
Mr.. Kelly, of New York-Mr. Chairman: am
pleased to see that liberal view is taken of the
amendment of the gentlemen of New York. The
principle involved in this amendment goes to the
| very foundation OF the Democratic party. The
right to dsfranchise the minority of delegation
in the Democratic convention from the state of
New York. There are sixty-two counties in the
state of New York, there are but ten of them
| Democratic, ard by the argument Of the senator
from the state Of New York, the great Demo-
cratic county of New York, which elects your
them, is to be disfranchised in Democratic con
yention. That is the principle which he has here
and now presented to the convention When the
i question itselfwas before the state convention it
is true, MS has been stated here, that no discus
| sion took place, and it was with the greatest DIFF
fculty that we could persuade and prevail Oh the
majority of the convention to admit us equal
| terms with those who are opposed to us in
the county of New York, having ac-
complished that, and having also pointed
out TO them the danger OF what they were going
I TO 40 We have no other resource, no otner oppor-
| tumty bur TO appeal TO Democratic convention
to give to the delegates from the great state Of
! New York an opportunity to vote for their choice
| in this convention. The gentlemen say there
! are precedents for the position assumed by Mr..
| Grady. Ny recollection goes back to the
vention Of 1874, thevery same question came up
| in that convention and by the wish, the viii and
good feeling and liberality which prevailed among
the delegates, it was conceded that mans
voice representing constituency in a Demo
| cratic convention should be ignored Applause
| will not trouble the convention with history of
the Democratic conventions from that day 10 this,
! but hope that this convention will take into
consideration this important point which / desire
to present to them. suppose that you dsfran-
chised the three Democratic countiesIo which |
! have made reference, what will be the feeling of
! the constituents that have sent their delegates
! here to represent them? In view Of the fact that
! state of New York are in minority in their own
! counties, will voices then representing the
majority constituents be sthed in Democratic
| convention? appeal to the good sense to the
| liberaty, the sound Judgment and the wisdom
! of the delegates here assembled to give the
! Democratic constituencies the same right which
| they expect for themselves and having, Mr.
| Chairman, said much, and not desiring to
| occupy the convention any further on the subject
] have stated to you as clearly as understood,
and l hope, as l said before that the question
will be met with that iberality which it deserves
| from Democratic convention. Applause and
cries Of question,
The Chair-Mr. Fellows, of New York, has
the floor
John X. Fellows, of New York-Mr Chairman
and gentlemen of the convention: My asso-
eiates and majority of this delegation have re-
! quested me to address the convention. The last
words which the state of New York win have to
say, far as this majority is concerned, on the
very great and important question now awaiting
your decision. Sir, there has been an extraordi-
nary misrepresentation of the issue which is IN
| volved as indicated by the very eloquent
addresses of the gentlemen from
California and others. The question is no
that of sitting the voice or depressing the senti-
ment Of any delegate from New York, or
any delegate the floor. The question il as to
whether the state Of New York has the right to
say how the win OF her majority shall be nidicat-
ed on the floor OF this convention New York
has something of pride in her greatness, Vast
in her resources, vast in her population, COM
handing in the attitude she occupies in the sis
terhood of states, she desires to come into
Democratic convention. as she has desired TO do
for more than forty years, giving ali of the dign-
~ and weight in character to her
voice, and her sentiment that she possibly
can, and she has always stated, as she states to-
day, that she will not permit, if the delegates
obey her instructions, she will not permit seven
ty-two separate units, seventy two conflicting
sentiments and desires with regard to any ques-
ton on the floor of convention, Loud APP
plause. She recognizes the Democratic method |