The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1884-03-07
PAYNE AND SHERMAN.
Prominent Democratic Estimates of Their
Strength in Ohio.


Strength in Ohio.
Interview with col q. W. Woolley.
Colonel C. W. Woolley of Cincinnati who was
Senator Pendetons friend in the contest for
the senatorship last winter and six years ago.
said to a reporter at the St James Hotel last
night: "Pendleton got his finishing dose from
Bookwater. Why, ] can remember when Pen
dleten came to me and called me an eg0tiSt be-
cause wouldn't support Bookwaltef. He said
to me- You set yourself up as better than the
party. You should let the party decide for you
He got up dinner for Bookwatef at Cincinnati
to appease the wrath of prominent Democrats
against Bookwalter and he rendered his services
to Bookwalter and the committee, and then Gar
field died and there was no speaking, and Book
walter was defeated, and now he turns round
and stabs Pendleton. Pendletol made a mistake
in his civil-scrvice bill. l couldn't agree with its
terms ! would have it provide first of all, for
an examination Of every man IN Office to let us
see how many are unfit for the service; but he
was only doing what tive national conventions
and two State conventions had directed him to
do He was obeying his constituents. A party
that will direct its public servants to do thing
which it afterwards slaughters them for doing
will never come into power"
''How about OhioP
''Mr PAYNE can't carry it; you may set that
down. If he and John Sherman are the nominees
| shall go fishing, but will bet on %, 600 major
ity for Sherman, and think it will reach 3d. 600
or 70, 600 We want q with constituency.
That is Democracy. We don't want a man
merely for a pocket-book Mcdonald cooked
his goose when he got Carlisle elected Speaker
and stirred up his tariff muss. He could have
been nominated and elected if he had just kept
quiet on that subject, and kept it from being
agitated in Congress He had the influence to
do it, too He is a mighty good fellow, Payne's
speech at Columbus has killed him. 1t made q
bad break in two ways 1t killed him in the
East where the civil service reform sentiment is
strong and his straddle on the tariff used him up
generally. Everybody in our party knows that
he is proteetionist, and that ends him. Logan
is the only man he can beat in Ohio. Tilden
isn't to be thought of any more than in 1880.
| would vote for Arthur before would for Til
den. I'm out of politics, but as I've spent more
money in politics in twenty seven years than
any other Democrat in Ohio, with one excep
ton, hold right to speak my mind pretty
freely"
Julius Refs, of Cincinnati, who was a Tilden
delegate in the Democratic national convention
of 1880, said IF Tilden wants to be nominated
for President, he can have my vote and in
huence. He could be elected. The Ameri-
can people believe that he was defrauded and
that he ought to be righted. think,
however, that Mr. Payne will be the nominee.
In spite of the talk of Mr.. Pendleton's friends
Mr. Payne is very strong in Ohio. / only know
of one man who can compete with him and that
is John Sherman 1t would be nip and tuck be-
tween them. Sherman is very popular with the
Germans. ! don't say he could whip Mr.. Payne,
hut it would be a close fight. Mr.. Pendleton's
mistake in Ohio was not wholly i'll his civ1l-ser-
vice bill, but in handling himself before his
constituents. The bill was a mistake, but not
such great one as was magnifed by his enemies
It was in Cincinnati he did himself the greatest
injury He promised me to attend the ratifica-
ton meeting of the Highland House. (regularl
convention. Six hours later he declined, and
meanwhile bolt was organized. This declina-
ton made every one of the twelve members on
the legislative ticket which was finally elected
feel that his defeat was deserved by Pendleton.
Thus was one-fourth of the votes in the Demo
cratic caucus lost by one small action