New-York tribune., 1884-12-28
u, i. GRANT, JR, TgsTIFlGs
ENTIRE eoNfiphNoh IN Mit WAND

How THp rRASsleiinNs 81 itip tihs "enn wv"
preTBp-Bogi.wisG MONEY 90 iNVfsh
Asa witness in hehaif of hts falhhI''h''A"'
CA senaior J0geme ~ Chsnpa she seeks Va le'"Np' W.
- sion of securities wpflh hall m'il'nh H's'' WV"
were Ia the possassian of iirant W'h "h "'' WV "
tho Marine Bank iiure, Viysses Grant ~ iofN'Ns'
gave his testimony heioio ef'rce ilanilp 'o' ~
office, No ITO broadway ne Nis sAaN'.' ~,
Georse Bliss who rer,eseni1 ~ .. nss' connsc
for John H. Morris assisnee in' Nt.,nm Ntt., p.eeiver
1loycr Who aPpgoTeed pe ior In1agsn I@n sr H. Grant
Charles B Alexander Gor WarnoD' ~" Receiver D"''''
The main points Of Mr. Grants testimony wcrs as iol
lows: became q member of the Hiln oi 'I"ht +" m"t
&aa & Of Inc by Mr Chakce
registered United States bonds ANA West lfgln, ~.
box m SAFE deposit company ami let lnc keep these
securities in my box They not IN the ~
ropc aud / supposed that had sold my wiies no,s'
The sale FELL through, and the day before sai'n n "a
lent me the money which gave Mr. war In April,
1888 he borrowed 100000 more on tnaI t S,'' !, ~
bonds and that money ho gave 10 me. and gave u -,
Mr.. Ward 1t was loan tntt was was ,",
ran for si, months, B'i.re the ,oe e"d about Ss
having Mr ChaGees securities and said how much better
business wrote to Mr. Chanee telling him that the hrn.
would be Glad 10 use bis aud asked him to record trans
fers lie did so and gave the bonds and the transfers
10 Mr.. Ward.
MONEY LOANED BY MR. CHAFFEf
Resides the ~ 10000 that Mr. Chaieef iodh'" ""
he had borrowed $1,000 ana nad agreed to
pay him the whole $4,000 at the end OF six months
suppose he thought | was worth a,,,ormasd a. rsardd
as then supposed was AS. 80. AIalSMM. IsolS Mr..
Ward took the don't 5nGw %hs yery ISu rich.
guaranteed me and lin personally. when lir7t bean
10 lend money Ward did not know for what plrionss
he used IT, but at this time knew 1t was ot uoys,'mns Nv
contracts. In case II was to MAKE hIS Iad ~
che "Iase and u Ward Would take care accounts ard
Ward suggested e,at ic,s,n s,D." ,,ao az that he
should got one.haf OF the ,,, profits ana
had an individual agreement with hIn ,,,. ."aed ,haa
nv accolmrs Ward would tell me how ndel nlohoy
could lend him and asS asy " "a" en. ,e ,"s @ ny ,Ss
certain amount Of money could ~ nsei 10, sun .''
%@a 9p he P% %" Gs sSS soa 40 FS II m ph sS
ncads always ,sponetitl9 ~ chnss n1s bap "p'au 40
other times, Wsri said be took m,re tpn Wann ,ns
many times that ths was 'ha1ens money hh, U.s. nn, '
ON one oecnsio giving oss than before, he SAID ihno
il g noreal 10 pay said, Yes, ba' dont f", 'hs
II go,so Ar ,hsnce rhese qs.e'l9na wsfr 90 ,.s. nc.
was known TO ward
NOT sSiApirp WIN fun BOOKS
Mr. bangs said the books should bc produced W r'a""
10 this point
~ don't want tho books" replied Mr. rlisqi "ws
MI, A., ,tan ,on,lno"d when Mr Chnlrcc cape East,
nll could tell him WIS that ward wn' good fot ,he
amount held and that be- had shown ne ,,gnt'los ,s ny
be s9d wc e loa @ 10 z" 10 ocr n w ror the % .as ot
s,nrk Ward wna down on Inc ut once know the fnsis
rlc seemed know everything that wa. going 0n IN to
Sl,rHl %SSl Sss ws'" me s SSout ' and would senSaly
Sorr"w Il iof me too. Laughter When
the capital amounted ON paper TO II ooVuoV ',os or
AZ 900 900, asked Warl why he investor my hionry
and not the firms money. lie said t' business ths no
was doing might stop at any time and Ne wanted 10 Keep
the firms money tn make the ntm soul. -, II,
fIIe always satisfied me when asked hls hs sal1
ne had rct this contract business away from Dnyd
bows and that Mr. Dows had made fortune ONT o. II;
when loans were made received somethhg
I'm the nature of n receipt from ,Wain A.
would hoe been satisfied with his wort Whsn tno
thing collapsed had IN fnre value ltile over flVv-
uno of money invested hut that Included some nt hs
Arn's money. The whole amount That pw N wy
transactions was 81 $4,000 hesis ne o ,i,
rnt IN the hr nj first had s2uunoo pr S3DouhV Nhen
hal made before went into the latheiship ,,, "A
Nt,. ,tant thtn repeated thu stnri W thr llsN W
Woi tp him un the nts surlny ~ May ~ utniiit
utnni httbwlna @ljnOD front NJ imi'th', ~ ny
bpih,r obtaining the krts m ms 'Aie p pltins Xxx
hali srpufiilpa ~ separate hbk, anis hhNhl ~ Wv"
pt p,,, hiNl witnpssts Hs examination WI be eoh-
th,npd neat sathtlaii
ftr dARRihnN htftEhNoH tAhE tNhhh
The Garrison reference case, Whiph has bnth
neeipying the atienlina ai insinpt Attorney ft'p' p
onuy for soe weeks was practically elnsnh Ne''pst
the reiern was tho uuieoRe at lhe petition eI iohh v
iorry .isl-...a 0f Cornelius h hl'liaiAi hf
authorii - enmpunl certain tia'ns nj
Grant for 5,OiO eaclf held by Terry a. assgnea
and claimed Offset 10 the note ol tiinmoliN Nat-
Grant a ward w. =. Pierce IT,, rert seths Iohh -
Terry handed the various documents relating 10 'p.
modore GarrisOns assignment, which were ao'rpt'u ~
on idcnce by Referee Oney, and nolon Humphrey altr
given by him at the last hearing with rrietece To ln,
Vince aud Lake Erie Railroad bond. Mr olhey SAID