The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1884-07-08
THE NEW YORK CAUCUS.
Cleveland's Managers Claiming that the
Fight Is Already Won.


Cleveland's Managers Claiming that the
Fight Is Already Won.
CHICAGO, July THE New York delegation
met at IL o'clock and continued in session four
hours. Great interest centered in this meeting
as having very important bearing on the final
action of the convention, and the hallway in
front of the room in which the session was held
was filed with throng of people anxious to Sc
cure early tidings of the result It was under
stood that at the meeting late last night Tam
many decided to insist on a twothirds majority
for the enforcement of the unit rule, and the
question was whether that number could be mus
tered There was long and excited
discussion, the tenor of which has
not been learned. Rumors Of the result
Of the balloting crept out from time to time, but
could not be verified The following is given as
the ballots taken for presidential preferences.
First or informal ballot Cleveland 46; Flower,
%; Thurman, |; Bayard, /; Tilden L Second
or formal ballot, after changes Cleveland, AZ;
General Slocum, Is; Bayard, 8; Flower, l. It is
understood that the Flower men complinented
Slocum and Bayard with view. thereby, of win
ming the votes of Kings county in the conven-
ton.
stood, it is stated, "a to 8. 1t was argued that
this would force the Tammany opposition into
close corner but, Notwithstanding what appeared
to be famous victory of the Cleveland follow.
ers, very few of the leaders were willing to con
cede the untrammeled success of Cleveland in
the balloting, owing to the fierce nature of the
struggle and the failure of portion of the dele
cation to come out openly for the majority can
didate 1t has been acknowledged that if the
caucus had ended with a certainty that New
York would cast her full vote for Cleveland, suf-
fcient Western and Southern strength would be
at hand to make his nomination sure. The fact
of the lack of unanimity of the delegation is now
being used by the friends of other candidates in
pushing their claims for recognition The
Cleveland managers, however are IN high
feather, and claim that, as result of the days
work, the fight has already been won, and that it
only requires the sitting Of the convention to
seal the victory.
The Daily News has the following additional
points: Having failed to break the Cleveland
column, the next move of his opponents was to
smash the unit rule. 1t had already been de-
cided by Kelly's followers that this should be
attempted as last resort When the motion
was made to cast the seventy two votes Of New
York as a unit for Cleveland, it was met by
storm of objections, and the real fight was on.
John Kelly, Senator Grady and others
threw themselver into the breach They
that a bolt might occur If Cleveland's nonina-
tion was forced upon them; but finally cooled off
and said they did not mean it. Then they de-
clared that the unit rule was an injustice, and
that they would not be bound byit. Grady de-
clared that the State had no right to instruct
delegates from the districts. The Cleveland
men insisted that the State conven-
ton appointed the delegates, and had
authority to instruct them upon any and all
questions. 1t was urged that every delegate
who was attempting to break the rule had voted
for it in the State convention and promised to
abide by it. For over two hours the exciting
discussion was continued, and then the Tam
many delegates asked for an adjournment that
they might have chance to consult This was
granted, and recess was taken Al few min
utes afterward, Senator Grady and General
Spinola, after hurried talk with John Kelly,
edged their way through the crowd and
were ushered into Chairman Manning's private
room, where long consultation, with a view to
acompromise of differences failed to result in an
agreement When the delegation reassembled
there was another long and exciting discussion
In the meantime two more votes had been gained
for Cleveland and he now had forty nine athis
back. 1t was finally agreed that the State should
vote as unit, but the anti Cleveland men insisted
that an explanation should be given tothe conven-
ton.
This was conceded, and a vote taken upon the
final motion that the chair shall announce that
forty-nine delegates Of New York are for Cleve-
land, and twenty three for Bayard Flower and
Slocum, but that under instructions of the State
convention the seventy two votes are cast for
Cleveland. This motion was adopted-61 to IL,
the Tammany delegates and two others voting
against it.
THE sAcHEM OF TAMMANY INTERVIEWED.
In an interview with Times reporter inn
mediately after the adjournment Of the caucus
of the New York delegation this afternoon John
Kelly said: "If the delegation does not recon
slider its action and still insists upon presenting
Cleveland's name, Tammany will appeal to the
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