The Arkansaw traveler., 1884-11-29


 becomes the motive power that drives she whole world in ies diurnal motion. The moon is planet ~ithout saline tuid and Is without diurnal motion. All of the ocean currents are in the direction of the rotary motion of the water or are currents re6Ounding hHotn impact aks;:ssss the western line of some continent, as are the trade winds and currents. The diurnal motion gave the glc be forms of sun, moon and stars; indeed it threw of the m aterial that made planets in such q way as to define the orbital motion. By the testimony of earth, then, VIC can ahege that the whole planetary system was the product of the relation between the electric force of the universe and its saline fluids. The evidences of design, then, are not confined to the development ot the universe but extend into the properties of the primary substances and forces that go to make up the material of the universe as distinct from the operation of org ganization. Mir. lngersoll cannot divest the Designer of creative designs He cannot defne all of the designs n the universe to be found only ID the organization and government of the universe. He may make a poly theist of himself and say one God CT .ated and another governs. But he proposes to dismiss the creator God with out care by the assumption of the most ultra anthropomorphic conception of God. This anthropomorphic conception of God by which he proposes to prove that He is not Creator is in the expres- sion, A man may make machine that does not prove that he made the material out Of which the machine is constructed. You find the planets arranged according to what you call plan. That does not prove that they were created" If there is any force in this reasoning 1t rests upon the idea that God is like man. Man cannot create material. Therefore God, who is like him, cannot create material.
 Let it be noted that MT. lngersolI assumes anthropomorphic grounds. God is made by him so much like man that since man cannot make the material used in his machinery, therefore God cannot make the material us.d in His machine-the universe. It is rare freak for a man to assume the truth of anthropomorphism as essential to prove just the opposite, agnosticism. So Mir. lngerson proceeds. He assumes to know enough of God to know that He is like man who cannot create for the lack of ability to create.
 But this is not all that he assumes. He says, Is it consistent to say that de- sign cannot exist without designer, but that designer can? Does not a de- signer need a design as -h as design needs designer p should answer these questions by saying the design depends for its existence upon the designer. While the designer depends upon the design, not for his existence, but simply for relation of cause and effect to the design and a name expressive of that relation. A man does not become a man because children are born unto him. He was a man before, but the child born makes him q father who was a man be- fore. He owes to the child not hi. being but only name and a relation expressed by the name. The question, "Does not a designer need design as much as a design needs a designers" is but an ap- peal to the stupidity of mankind. It is the assumption of the idea that a thing made would have to make it's maker be- fore it could be made, and since it could do noshing before it was made, therefore it could not make its maker 90 as to be made.
 Then let us note progress in the the istic conception of Mir. Ingersol: God is like man and cannot, therefore, create, but before He can be He must make something to make Him to be.
 To still further show that the Creator must make something to make Him be- fore He can be, he asks another question, @Does not a creator need a ereatof As much As the thing we think he has createdi ia other words is not this simply a circle of human ignor- ancer fNe secoa d question of these t~o givss interpretation to the hrs.. Inter psssed by the -isss question and by what preceded it, MT. Ingersoll pre- sumes t6 say the Creator needs the thing to be created to create Him before He can create it, and then asks if his reason ing is not simply q circle of human