The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1884-06-20
GRATUlT0US GRASS.
TWO TYPICAL TEXANS TALK,
senator Fleming Relieves II AN Issue That
Cannot he shirked-Judg. Carroll
Colncidrs-"siy old wash"
Jones, the Modern Moses,


yesterday. lie returned homo las
night, and In week or SO Will go Il
some of the resorts of Wisconsin, whcr'
he will leave his family for the summer
lie will then attend the National con
yontion at Chicago, to which hc Is u dele
gate.
The HERALD interviewer asked judge
Fleming IL no regarded the isoe-grass In
ilucnco Nv n growing ono.
lilo replied promptly;
"rhc free grass element IL powerful IL
the ElovcL.h Congressional dis
In ir,''' faas, p0ir i i. ~ the voic,
of tho whole pooplc. They arc ~
In their might against the lease laws ant
tho herd ideas. They are against I'll,
rent barons and bullionaircs. Their
voice VIII be heard II tho councils o. o,
out out in ''''' the section / name
In stronger than any one, not familiar
with tn the people, are aware OF. There
In no general proper conception OF tho
popular opposition To the lease laws. Tho
ireo.grass people care for no party or
candidates. Tho Democratic creed has
no place In their minds. IL IL
the policy of free grass that they
want, and IL Is going 10 bo demanded In
the loudcst terms"
Tho ablo and eloquent Judge having
stopped To get n good breath, the Her
Alb man suggested that there would be
"a warm issue on froc-grass and land
lease laws In tho Houston state conVen-
ton.
Judge Fleming said: 81 do not be-
licye the Eleventh Congressional dis
trict will east single vote for the DEM
ocratic ticket, II that party puts lease
law plank in the platform"
"Will the free grass men be nj llous-
ton to make fight In the convention
was asked.
Judge Fleming replied: "The organii-
cation for making fight is already
going on. They will be heard NJ
Uouston-ths freo-grass element. And,
sir, mark IL down M a fact, the conven-
ton will have to give an ear to them or
lose the Democratic vote of tho Eleventh
district In the November election"
GLOW will tho loss of the Eleventh dis
trict affect tho general result for Gov
crnor?"
at will take away at tho next election
about 10000 votes. Thero were DWO
votes cast in the last Gubernatorial cleo
ton and we have increased
allow do other parts Of the state stand
on freegrass" nj,
~ can only speak now for the Flew
onth Congressional district. In That,
the sentiment is at fever heat.
They will not be put
or and ,hey aro going to be power In
"will you go to tho Houston convcn-
tom"
81 am not decided yet, rs know there
IL going To be strong fight
for the frec-grass policy, and
| anticipate some trouble.
may be chosen to go; shirk no duty"
"Tour record in the Senate is against
the lease laws"
ayes, fought them, and told how II
would be. My predictions are verified.
The farming districts of Texas do
not know how the feeling is out west.
They will know when the State conven-
ton tries to put the lease plank in the
State platform. Before the Tree
grass people will submit TO
work to defeat the party. This Is the
extent of the feeling, and il Is getting
stronger in proportion as the opposition
press refuses TO entertain their views,
or AT least give them respectful consider
alton. The battle is organized and Will
he fought rs has never been dreamed OF.
The free-grass people are not under
stood"
At this point Judge Fleming took the
sleeper of the wcst-bound train for home.
JUDGE CARRoLL's VIEWS.
Judge J. \. Carroll, of Denton, an
onostlo OF the free-prass doctrine, has
been i'm the city a day or two,, a
HERALD man met the Judge and asked
'"o I",r about this free-prass policy? Is
:, ,,. ,VT "
!" io roniicd with much confidence and
,a iiu MIMI ..it is not growing so
much: il has always been there"
"Do YOU mean to say the country Is for
free grassY' =,
80, ,h w yyont >,
1t. ,. w lass or noonle in the urazing
soo,;oms want FREQ rrnss?',
s.Tal,o the country west of Tarrant
,.o,,ntv and every man wants free grass.
W, ,;,iii ,ind sir. the state mt large is
for ~ fr"e Grass !,
..,rhop ireland IL boaten for goyernor?"
~ don,t know ns TO that, but ] know the
dovs Of free grass are here and will show
LAY LAY h vi strength -
Wy liz, ahont Wash Jones? viii he run
an a froe-Vrass platform?r
va s. u fnnes IN, n niotform for free grass,
,',t Iroland on n lonse-policy plank
nn1 f,morn Iii he twentv thousand votes
~ az IreianJ,s majority of'two years ago to
80, n,,,;nst him IN defeat him.
xviii The issue be made i'm the Houston
corvontion. and will the free-grass men
~ ~ .ho,.a tn mi in thoir work against the
, ,,u s,,J ,a,, ~ ro,icvn
io ..rh ,n" vii ne there. and their power
,,.;,i ho Sornat Rut the Ireland follow
ina - viii yi nut the lease plank in the plat
r nS anL then fine matter will 20 before
ibn noonlc nt tho November polls"
.sIlo Won feel alarmed at the prospect of
docrcose q" of Immigration out West If the
lease noljcv should prevail?"
,.,Vhoro Won onnlv tho lease law
tboro Won will build up Il bar
r;or AGAINST tha march of settle
,non, The cowboy, his wife
aud his tow-headed flock of children