St. Paul daily globe. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1884-1896, 1884-08-27
Discussion of High School Course Of Study.
Latin, &c.


o. l. Gray, president Of state normal school,
ST. Cloud
Chas. o. Bryant, first secretary of the state
high school board, ST. Paul.
f. A. Molyneaux, superintendent of city
schools, Winnebago City.
W. 4. Rocheleau, high school principal and
superintendent of schools, Sank Centre.
Robt. Nix, superintendent of schools, New
Ulm.
VIM. Moore, superintendent of schools, Lake
City.
Edward Otis Hovey, A. B., principal Of high
school, Janesville.
j. F. Downey, professor of mathematics and
astronomy, state university, Minneapolis.
c. L. Greenough, principal of high school, Al
exandria,
j. G. Moore professor of Grrman, state uni
versty, Minneapolis.
Horace Gibson, superintendent Of city schools,
Austin.
Rev. Leo Baier, Minneapolis.
V. W. Lathrop, a. B., principal Of high school,
Willmar.
Z. Chilcoat, superintendent Of schools and
principal Of high school, Albert Lea.
P. ii. Kirk, institute conductor, Winona.
W. A. Pike, professor Of engineering, state
university Minneapolis.
G. r. Simpson, principal Of high school, Fari-
bault
Miss Lbbie Reid, principal of Harrison school,
Minneapolis.
Levi Wright, principal of high school, Worth
ngton.
Miss E. L. Trevette, principal of room, high
school, Sixth street Minneapolis.
John A. Sanford, B. A., high school princi-
pal, Little Falls.
g. F. Kuerr, principal of high school, Mime
apolis.
j. NJ. Richardson, school superintendent and
high school principal, Dodge Center.
w j. Brown, high school principal, Monti-
cello.
Angus Haines superintendent schools, Litch-
field.
j. II. Gates, Anoka.
Kate L. Sprague, teacher Of mathematics, state
normal school, Winona.
T. L. Heaton, principal of high school, Wi
mona.
Mrs. C. W. Hail. 9O4, University avenue, Min
neapolis.
Louise E. HOLSTER principal high school, Du-
luth.
H. B. Wilson, ex-state superintendent, Red
Wing.
Mrs. Mary r. Wilcox, late teacher of English
in Carlton college, st. Paul.
Matte E. Shelton, principal of high school,
Hastings
L.C. Lord principal of schools, St. Peter.
A W. Rankin, superintendent Of schools,
Owatonna.
E. r. Shepard, principal of Winthrop school,
Minneapolis.
c. A. Sheffield, principal of high school,
Waterville.
w. F. Selleck, principal of high school, Elk
River
Cyrus Northup, president of State university
II. L. Merrill, principal Of high school, Hutch
inson.
W. II. Avery, principal of high school, Granite
Falls
A. H. Pearson, professor of chemistry, Carlton
college, Northfeld.
Prof. W. F. Phelps, superintendent of city
schools, Winona.
The program OF exercises was opened by Su-
perintendent West, OF Faribault, who gave an
essay on the subject OF Courses of study in the
High schools" The essay was an able arraign-
nent of the State High school board for making
the teaching OF the dead languages, most espec-
tally the Latin, in the high schools under the ju-
risdcton obligatory to the securing OF the 500
state aid, and advocating its adoption of optional
courses OF study in those schools Tor at the State
university with more regard TO fitting the many
for the business walks of life, than the compare
tive few in the percentage Of their attendance
who will seek college halls, to fit for the duties
OF professional life In illustration of what these
optional courses of study should be with the
English language sitting in the front door and
the ancient languages consigned to the back yard
He produced a chart of the studies to be pursued
each high school year under such system leav-
ing all the languages optional, even to the Ger
man, in the last year of the high school course
The fact of it was the superintendent placed the
chip on his shoulder on the language question to
bring out the sense OF the convention, which he
neatly succeeded in doing to the extent of get
ting up warm discussion.
Mr. Lord, of ST. Peter, and Mr. Rankin, of
owatonna, practically agreed with Mr. West
with some differences, and Mr. Wright,
OF Worthington, thought it was
matter OF doubtful propriety to
make all the high school pupils take Latin Mr.
Moore, of Lake City, was impressed with the i'm
portance Of discipline in the study of language,
and said that those pupils taking both Latin and
English were always superior in language power
and expression OF their thoughts than those who
took the latter alone.
Supt. Kiehle said this subject was one OF the
highest importance to the future educational in
terests of the state and in fact the subject of
all subjects to be settled II this convention
could solve the studies problem in the high
schools it would do a great and meritorious work
He called upon President Northrop of the state
university. He would retain the Latin with the
English studies as requisite not only for the
duties of professional but business life In re.
gard to Greek he was not stickler but neither
the English should be banished for the Latin or
the Latin for the English alone, and both were
necessary to the cause of higher education II,
the high schools
Mr.. Heaton OF Winona, advocated the study
of Latin for professional and its letting alone
for business life. He thought its study should
be left optional to high school boards. While
the Latin was taught most thoroughly the
English language was but little alluded to in the
schools, which was much to be regretted
Prof. Gray Of st. Cloud said this was the old
controversy between the classics and sciences.
he would not yield the belief that the study of
Latin was means of mental culture and dis
cipline and great aid in practical life. He
wished to 90 adjust the work in the high schools
so SIS to make the English the equal with Latin.
and to make the people feel that the high school
is the peoples school
Mr.. Kirk said that this language qnestion must
be solved to satisfy the people of the state and
for the prosperity Of its high schools, and that
the people sll over the state were deeply agitated
on the subject Mr.. knerr said that so many
students wished TO take Latin in his school that
there was difficulty in keeping up the Engiis b
classes. He advocated option to take or no,
take this study by the student
Pr0f. kiehle stated that twenty students pass
ing reasonable examination constituted high
school. A rule was made by the board for q class
in Latin In such for class of i've scholars no,
more and not less, and If there was male or fe-
male OF ability in school there slwsys wouId he
such a class. No authority eminzted from the
board for principles to urge scholars
to take Latin against their desire-the
study Of Latin would take care of itself
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