New-York tribune., 1884-11-02
THE NEWS IN LONDON.
OBSTRUCTION IN THE CoMMoN'''
FRANCHISE BILL.

,,noS Nov Livery effort OF tne "o'oi"
..0os 20 push forward the business OF the
....;or has been bafled. the Tories and 'he ir'Sh
..,.,s taking turns in the work of obstructlon'
n,..o ,;obts were consumed in q debate OF the
u.amtrasna trials. Nomnally 1t was an attempt W
;nduce the House to grant new triai ana 10 o'o'-
rr,e tho vercts of three jures Really was an a'
tack upon Lord Spencer. whom MIR. biggar ca'''" "
murderer. II vas also device to OBTAIN No'o u
oe,s,re of the yiceroy and to expel him from ONCE
Tho uouse sustained Lord Spencer by a vote Vi
. o Tho Ministers stood firm. though
was threatened that refusal TO sacr'lce Lo'u
spcncer would involve the loss OF support vi '"0
pa,uelltes on the Franchise bill. which IL is ho"
believed the Irish members will oppose thfo"e"o"'
Lord Spencer will remain Viceroy oil ire''"'
nor has has there been any question OF appolntne'
-. xas ronorted. Lord Rosebery. for whom inc
g,,,,,ouh savs n scat will soop bo found III inc ''o
met Lord Carngford rct'r'nR'
,oup RANDOLPH CHURCHILL PUNISHED
o,d Rapdonh Churchill consumed the wh"'e
of Thursday with proposal to cen"uro Mr '"''''
brflain for ncitms rio, aud disordct M 'ao"'h' :"
cha wook has attracted po much attention. iof"
u,,lolnh a.. chill outridc had accused Mr. Cham
h,,l.in Of ing aud personally directing tho
,,o,er- who .roko up tho meeting at birmingham
Ilc madc no at mpt olthor TO support or To repeat
these charges Ia the House. whore no based his III
defment ON Mr.. Chamberlains speeches with tho
uoecstion that tie latter might have prevenied the
riot if he had chosen to do so.
Mr. Chamberlain had no difficulty in demollshng
Lord Randolph Churchill. Not content with that he
himself attacked the Tories as the authors Oh '''c
BIRMINGHAM disturbances. He produced numerous
sworn statements of agents employed oy the lory
managers to provoke disorder aud also l. tiers from
Liberals who had suffered violence. de succee"eo
in creating equal amazement and alarm IN the Tory
CAMP These statements have since been challenger
and legal proceedings have been threatened on
both sides.
DEBATES IN THE COMMONS.
The vote of censure was defeated by majority OF
SO. the Irish members supporting Lord Randoph
Churchill. many Whiggsh Liberals shabbily absent
ing themselves Mr.. Gladstone cordially supported
his colleague.
Then Mr.. MacIver yesterday moved another
amendment to the address about depressed trade
and agriculture and another whole evening was
spent in discussing that Mr. Cowen threatens
fourth debate next week, because the members OF
the Merchant Shipping Commission do not suit
him. and Mr.. Sexton a fifth debate respecting the
so-called revelations of the French case.
There is no possibility of Mr.. Gladstone's moving
the second reading of the Franchise bill before
Tuesday. Probably he will do it on Thursday OF
even later All these amendments and debates are
simply in pursuance of planned scheme of indirect
ohstruction. The Tories desire TO delay as long as
possible the Franchise bill IN the House of Com
mons hoping that it will not reach the Lords till
december Then Lord Salisbury will say that
there is no time to debate it before the holidays.
PROSPECTS OF THE BILL
The Moderates on both sides are working quietly
for a compromise, which daily becomes less proIa
Bile. Mr.. Chamberlains speeches careless, al
most defiant Mr.. Gladstone's appeals for modera
tion ring with cries for the abolition of the Lords.
Mr. John Morley. Mr.. Chamberlans chief allv.
rashly pronounces against any second chamber
whatever. Outdoor meetings continue. The
gathering at HYDE Park last Sunday, though dis
eouraged by the leaders, was immense in numbers,
denouncing hereditary legislation.
BITTERNESS OF ENGLISH POLITICS.
Lord salsbury's friends Say that he intends to
reply in the House of Lords to Mr.. Gladstones and
Mr.. Chsmberlain's speeches in the Commons. both
Justly accusing him of being the first to incite and
70 encourage violence in tauntine the people with
their good humor in Franchise demonstrations and
limiting that MIR Chan berlau might get his head
broken II he took part IN the procession. There ia
no danger of good humor lasting long "A things
~ personalities aic the order of tho day inside and
outside Parliament Tory iabcof Ia daily noie bit.
tot aud Liberal impaticnce Ia daily increasing,
Moderate journals yanly protest aud Mr. Glad.
stones grave warnings aie soaioely needed
rGyrf AND soufn AFRICA
Egyptian ru,nors have been numerous during the
week. including ono about the fall of Khartoum,
There real news except that Lord Woseoy lie
steadily pressing forward. Lord Northbrook has
arrived at Paris and hopes to conclude some sort of
agreement with NJ Ferry touching Egyptian finance
Scarcely a hope remains of Colonel Stewards
safety. The publication of General Uordons dis
patches still further strengthens the case against
the Ministry for their strange delay in sending
succ0r.
The South African debate on Wednesday shows
that the Ministry have at last resolved to defend
Bcchuanaland. to protect the Zulu reserves to
punish the Bethel murderers and to act in concert
with the Cape Government. Colonel Warrens de-
parture is delayed only for necessary preparations
Mr. FOrster's steady pressure and powerful crti-