The Portland daily press., 1883-10-11
THE CHURCHES:


Protestant Episcopal Convention.
PHILADELPHIA. Oct. 10.-In continuation OF
the discussion in the Protestant Episcopal
Convention on the revision of the prayer book,
Hon. L. Bradford Prince of New Mexico said
it seemed to him that the mission of the
church in the United States could not be car
ried out with its present name. In his opin ion
"Church in the United States were sufficient.
Rev. Meyer Leon, d. D., of Maryland, be-
lieved in the name Protestant Episcopal
church, because, if not protesting against er-
ror, that church would not be catholic,
Mr.. Carleton Hunt of Louisiana said the
gentleman from Illinois says he is not ashamed
to call himself member of the holy Catholic
church. What does he mean2 Does the re-
spect which heralded the assemblage of this
body look like shame? Does the appreciation
which has followed their decisions look like
shame? Another gentleman on this floor, in
the fervor of debate, has gone to another ex-
treme equally to be deplored, when he says
that we are in land worse than heat hen. Mr..
Hunt hoped the question would be al lowed to
rest for long time at least.
Rev. John j. Faude of Indiana said the
church had before her the mission of uniting
the broken fragments of the holy Catholic
church. "We want it understood that we are
not une bno VI. L., bno 4. H. OF any OCner Il.
but simply the holy Catholic church of the
United States
Rev. John McNamara, d. D., of Nebraska,
was in favor of the change, and did not be-
lieve that any one would doubt his Protesta MT
ism. He had been brought into the chu rch
from the Roman church in New England. He
had liking for the name "Catholic."
Rev. John Fulton, d. D., of Missouri, said
the Protestant Episcopal church is not the
Holy Catholic church-it is a mere misnomer.
we are, he said, lone of che very least of
the great tribes of Israel. God forbid" he
said, "that should belittle the church, but
we are not great church-not yet. I live in a
city of $4,000 Inhabitants, where our COM
municants number not more than 1000 or $500.
Would it be modest and truthful to call our
selves the Catholic church of the United
Ststesf'
Rev. John 81. Egar, D. D., of central New
York, wished to persuade the deputies to let
all extraneous matter go aud try and reach the
real solution of the question.
Rev. James Abercrombie, D. D., of Cali
fornia, said he always used the expression
american Catholic Church" How often DO
people say ia church, 81 believe in the holy
Catholic church," and when they 90 out, in
reply to the question, sare you Catholic" F"
say "no?'i
Rev. Charles A. L. Richards of Rhode ISL
and moved to amend by striking out the
words according to the use of the Protestant
Episcopal church."
MIR. j uud stated he would accept the anne nd
ment, but objections were taken to his with
drawing the amendment proposed by him
A vote was then taken on the amendment of
Mr.. Roberts of New Hampshire, which re-
suited in its defeat.
The amendment of Mr.. Judd was defeated
by vote of q yeas to 252 nays. A division
having Deen called for, the convention ad-
journed.
The convention reassembled this morning
and various committee reports were presented.
Rev. DIR. Giesy of Connecticut presented a
paper on uniformity of usage in the matter of
enumeration and removal of communicates.
The house then went into committee. Mr.
S. Corning Judd of Illinois moved to amend
the title page of the prayer book by striking
out the words According. to the use of the
Protestant Episcopal Church" Lost. 1t was
resolved to report to the house that the CON-
mittee approved of the first resolution relative
to the title page.
The second resolution with reference to the
introduction to prayer was then taken up.
Rev. DIR. Adams of Wisconsin objected to the
table of contents and moved as an amend
ment thatthe numbering end with 80.
Rev. DR.. Huntington said he had no right to
accept the amendment.
Rev. DIR. Egan of central New York moved
as an amendment an addition at the end oil
the clause of these words, provided that in
the ordinal the form of conservation of a
church or chapel, the Office of institution and
the articles of religion be not numbered y
Rejected.