The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1883-01-18

MIR. Chandler made a speech, in which he
said the question of defeat or success in the
next presidential campaign depends on
whether the National Republican conven-
tion would assemble under the cid rotten
borough system, or whether that system
should be reformed. The trouble of allowing
Democratic localities to influence Republican
nominations had long been recognized
Mr. Logan thought his own proposition
was a reasonable Cne and did not think the
propositions for which it was a substitute
were reasonable. If this committee were
opposed to the old system, it could say so.
Mr.. Hicks, of Florida, protested against
the South being goaded by deprivation of
its influence in the Republican national con-
Yention
Mr.. Frye opposed Mr.. Logan's substi
tute, he being entirely satisfied that the
old system was wrong, unjust and outrage
Gus.
Mr.. Logan asserted that one objection to
the proposed change was that it disfranchsed
the Republicans of States and districts
wherever Republicans were in minority,
that was not fair, nor polite nor just II
Kentucky had 100000 Republican votes and
Maine 100000 Republican votes, Kentucky
would have, under the proposed plan, four
delegates in the national Republican con-
vention, and Maine would have twenty.
That was unjust, and that was why he was
against it.
Mr. Valentine, OF Nebraska, suggested
whether it would not be better to wipe out
the senatorial representation entirely and
confine it 10 congressional districts, allowing
one delegate for each district and an addi-
tlonal delegate for every 5000 votes given in
the district for James A. Garfield. He IA
yored either that plan or a continuance OF
the present plan, and he did not care which
was adopted.
AN OFFER TO WITHDRAW THE SUBSTITUTE.
Mr.. Logan offered to withdraw his substi-
tute, but Mr.. Washburne, of Minnesota, ap-
pealed to him not to do so, as he thought
there was more danger in making the change
than in going on under the old plan.
Mr.. Logan stated, however, that his mo-
tive was to allow those in favor of a change
to see whether they could present anything
which would meet the approval of the com
mittee If no such plan were presented, then
be would renew his substitute.
Mr.. Lacey, of Michigan, offered the follow
ing resolution:
the national convention of 1884 be increased,
and that said increase be SO distributed as to be
based upon the Republican votes for president,
or so rs TO increase the representation of States
or districts showing Republican puraiitles in
the presidential election of 1880, without de-
creasing the ratio of delegates assigned to any
State or district under the last call"
Mr. New, of Indiana, opposed any change
and reviewed Senator Logans motion as a
substitute for the resolution, retaining the
existing plan of representation"
One member proposed that the vote should
be kept secret; another member suggested
that votes, even in executive session of the
Senate, could not be kept secret.
''Oh yes" said Mr.. Logan, ''they can be
when they are not carried out by some
cat !" Laughter
The -Tote was then taken on the substitute.
and resnlted-yeas 2l, nays 17-so the pres
ent plan of representation was retained
Mr.. Chandler desired to have another test
ing of the question: and suggested a recess
He intimated that the motion had been car
ried by the votes of the Southern and Terri
torial delegates He wanted to have another
vote taken, and thought he had a parlia-
mentary right to insist on a vote on the
original proposition as amended.
Mr.. Logan deprecated the alluson to the
Southern and Territorial members; they
were all on an equality here.
Mr.. Chandler defended his right to allude
to the fact that the motion had been carried
by Southern and territorial votes. He sim
ply wanted two or three records of votes
The chairman decided that vote should
not be taken on the original as amended by
the substitute, and the original motion was
adopted-yeas %, nays 10, as follows:
Yess-Messrs. Strobaoh, Miller, Devereux, Lo-
gan, New, Washburne, Mckee, FIllev, Valen-
tine, Elmer Canaday, MITCHELL Pierce Yost, Lee,
Malloy, Mason, EnOs, Pettlgrew, Luna, Cary,
Hewlett, HIcks-23.
Nays-Messrs. Jewell, Febiger Runneils Mar
tin, Frye, Gary, Lodge, Lacy, Chandler Halsey.
Cooper, Rule, Hooker, Miner, Purves-15.
The matter now STANDS that the basis of
representation shall be two delegates for
each senator and two for each member of
Congress; and two delegates for each Terri
tory and for the District of Columbia
The committee then took recess till half
past seven.
A BROAD PLATFORM.
At the opening of the evening session, Mr.
Lodge, of Massachusetts,, moved to recon-
slider the vote adopting Mr. Logans subst-
tute. AS he had not voted with the major
ity, his right to move to reconsider was not
recognized.
The first six propositions having been dis
posed of by the adoption of the substitute,
the seventh was taken up, as follows: "Shall
State delegates be elected at popular delegate
State convention?' and it was decided in the
affirmative without debate, and was also
made to apply to Territories and the District
of Columbia. The remaining propositions
were then amended, and Mr. Valentine, of
Nebraska, moved a recommital OF the propo-
sitions to the subcommittee with instruc-
tions to formulate method and rules which
was agreed to.
Mr.. Chandler then offered the following
resolution, which was adopted without dis
cussion:
"Resolved, That the call for the next Repubi-
can national convention shall be so broad and
liberal as to invite the cooperation, without i'm
posing any other test of fealty, of all citizens
who are in favor OF elevating and diguifying the
American labOrer, protecting and extending
home industries giving free popular education
to the masses OF the people, securing free suf-
frage and honest counting of ballots, and eff
feetually protecting all human rights in every
section OF our common country; and who are
willing to support the nominees of the conven-
tion."
A short recess was taken to give the sub
committee time to formulate a proposition
and rules.
HOW THE DELEGATES SHALL BE CHOSEN.
On reassembling Mr.. Chandler of New
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