National Republican., 1883-01-29

that statement of his own knowledge.
MI. McKinley-I make that statement on infor
mnalon and belief, and invite the gentleman
truth is " "
Mr. Chace--There is no doubt about H.
MI. mr. Alkln-l deny that assertion, The price bf
England and not by Rhode JsiJsnd Sianui9ctnfers;
IN se!ine the price takes of the tax
On we democratic side and in the galleries.
Mf. Chace said that the Cotton.spinners of
the United States bought about 200, 900 bales
per nnnum. They paid for it the market
price, and they paid for the hoops rs cotton,
Gentlemen of the south bought hoops for
three and half cents pound and sell them
to the north as cotton for seven cents a pound
advance Applause on tho republican side.l
nir' King, The gentleman isin error
T., ME Chace. That amounts to $4,000 that goes
lut9 your pockets from our pockets.
MT. Aiken. That assertion is erroneous. The
price istixed In England.
. Mr.. Mckinley do not cnre what they do In
England. The gentleman from Rhode Island who
Is n practical manufacturer, declares on the floor
tnat cotton ties for which you pay thres AID
naii cents pound you chorge him from ten to
&, Mr.; Aiken, iie says whit is not So Applause
Mr., Gippo, The OF cotton is put on the scales
ana IT'S weighed cotton and iron hoops and all,
ana on that total gross weight we pay the ten or
eleven cents per pound. Applause on the repub-
Mr.. Mckinley. can prove that assertion by
wltnesses all about me, who tell me they have
uone precisely the same thing. And the gentle-
men In the.gallenes who applniided my friend from
south Carolina arc not interested in American
,I,a Ih,aanuieot9ries and American labor. They are
kne lobby here from the other side wanting TO get
Legislation nom the democratic side Of the house,
In order TO enhance Englands manufactures and
enrich the Golfers of England. Applause on the
republican sldel When | stated the fact about
cotton ties, was not making any complaint
against the cotton planters of the south. do not
care how much they get for the hoop iron that
goes round their cotton bales, but their claim that
American manufacturers are robbers, because
they want the cotton tic to pay the same duty as
hoop iron comes with bad grace from men who
buy iron from the robbers OF the north at four
cents a pound and sell 1t as cotton for eleven
cents. Yes and to the same robbers Of the north
and this is all there is in this cotontie business.
This discussion was carried on amid good
deal of excitement and confusion, which was
increased by the interest taken in the contro-
versy by the audience in the galleries.
Mr. Mckinley continuing, said it was the
duty of tho American congress to legislate
for American citizens, and not for foreign
manufacturers. He would publish in his
remarks extracts from Mr.. Porter's corre-
spondcncc TO the New York Tribune, who de-
scribed how the laboring people of England
lived, and how scantily they were paid for
their labor The country could have the
democratic doctrine of free trade whenever
the democratic party could make of our labor
ing men slaves, and not before. Applause
on the republican side.1 He did not speak
for capital. Rob it of its profits in what were
termed protective industries, and it would
seek other avenues of investment and profit
HgSpoko for the workingmen of his district
I Me-. Springer. They did not speak for you very
loudly.
Mr.. Mckinley. Oh, my friend, my fidelity to my
constituents is not measured by the support they
give me. lApplause on the republican sido.l !
have convictions on this subject which would
IN
up against mo last october, and II that is the
standard of morality and conviction and fidelity
practced by tho gentleman from Illinois trust
that the next house will not do, what think they
will not do-thnk Of making him speaker of the
house. Aud trust another thing, that the gentle;
mans remarks do not mean that he has prejudged
my case. Laughter
Mr.. Springer. Your constitute nts have already
preiudged it.
Mr.. Mckinley closed his speech with the
quotation from the last tariff speech delivered
in tho house by Gen. Garfield, when u mom-
bcr of that body, and was warmly applaudcd
by his party associates.
Mr.. Carlisle, n member of the ways aud
means committee, next addressed the COM
mittee. He stated that he would not discuss
the general policy of a free trade or protection
tariff or tariff for revenue only. Any at
tempt to do so would necessarily exclude
other matters to which attention should be
called. lie, however, briefly combatted the
constitutional argument made by Mr.. Con-
verse, that il was within tho power of con-
gress to impose duties for protection. If con-
gress might impose prohibitory duties ON for
eign imports under the power to regulate
commerce, it could also impose protective or
prohibitory duties as between the states of
the union Passing on to n review Of the bill
he said IL was measure which owed its origin
to the almost universal demand from all
classes of the people for real substantial re-
duction Of taxation, and for simplifCation
of the tax laws.
He asked gentlemen on the other side to
heed that demand and to make the reduction
that was necessary, and warned them that if
they failed to do so the storm that swept
the majority from this house in November
last would provo but gentle breeze COM
pared with the hurricane of 1884. If the COM
mittec on ways and means had reported q hill
making an average .rGductioWof 20 per cent,
with the rates justlyland iequitably appor-
toned, he would have given it his support,
and he believed it was safe to say that every
advocate of revenue reform on his side of the
house would have done the same thing.
While such u measure would not accomplish
all that ought to be done 1t would be Il long
step in the right direction. But, instead Of
such q scheme, the committee had presented
for tho consideration of the house PROPOSE
tion which made an apparent reduction of less
than 10 per cent? and he did not hesitate to
say that IL was more protective in its general
principles and structure, more binding
and oppressive on the people and moro in
furious to the trOde and commerce of the
country than any tariff scheme ever proposed
to an American congress- The apparent re-
ductiOn claimed by the friends of tie measure
WIS 9!O,0OOOOO, and more than one halt of
that Ras taken. from sugar. This was only
an apparent reduction In many eases, and in
other eases, while IL was reduction of the
revenue, il was an increase in the burden Of
taxation. The provision in regard to duties
on commission and charges and packages ap-
piled only in cases of nd yalOrem duties. lie
affirmed that when the calculation was COR
rectly made IL would appear that the abolition
Of those charges would not affect the revenue
to the extent Of 3 per cent 1t was true that
the committee had reduced tho duty rec0m-
mended by the commission bill on tin plates
and sugar Out of sixteen schedules more
than one half of the reduction made by the
bill was made on the single one of sugar,
and, in his judgment, while this reduction
would affect the revenue, IL would not affect
taxation. The reduction on sugar was made
on the non-consumption class of sugars and
the duties on the higher were still left by the
bill absolutely prohibitory. The sugar sched-
ule was changed in the interest OF the refncrs
and against the interests of the people, who
were the consumers In the wooden and cot
ton schedules the committee had made n large
increase over the recommendations of the COM
mission, but the change in existing law, while
il decreased the revenue, placed an additional
burden of $2,000,000 ON the people. Tho
bill not only increased tho duty
on cotton ties (four-6fths OF which
were exported without any drawback
being allowed), but il also increased the duty
on barrel hOOps and hOopS for casks, There