New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1883-12-30
PASSED WITHoUTBEING CUT.
THE H1pGErs FOR EDUCATION AND FIRE
.nv .o.r D ov ESTIMATE srnL ENGAGED IN AIuor-

.ononce Of the various departments oil the lily
Goverument for 1884.
ri,c 6rst midget considered was that of the Police
Tanartrent which asked for S3,36S 1913 al TOT ire
,aiaries # the Commissioners and the unh"rn''"
force. This was % include 100 additional pence
Zen AZ $500 a year. In the provisional est
,.a.os ,bis had been reduced TO $3,32S3:' A.
and the number of the additional policemen
was reduced 10 90 Mr.. Asten said that
he favored increasing the police force. lie
did not wish 10 do anything that would
reduce the force a single man below the number
actually required. He thought, however, that
the force could be increased in number without
adding to the amount allowed for 1888
Mr. Reilly said that the Police Commissioners had
appeared before the Board and explained the ITEMS
There was no question that larger police force was
necessary some of the posts uptown were hve
miles in length. No taxpayer would begrudge the
amount necessary to preserve life and protect
property.
The Mayor said that the system was not right.
The Police Board had a good deal of money in adj
di+ion 70 what was allowed by the Board of EST
mate This was obtained from salaries paid for de-
tailed men, fines for absence without leave, etc.
The trouble was, however. that this was not GER
tain source of revenue nor could the exact amount
be fOretold.
Mr. Asten asked to be excused from voting on
this item as before the final estimates were adopted
he might have more information on the subject.
The other members voted for the item For salaries
Of the clerical force. telegraph department,
and other salaries, $7s271 was allowed
The following additional items were
also passed: Supplies for police, $4,000;
,epts. 50 430: expenses of detectives, $4,000;
alterations and fitting up of staff on-houses,
$4,000: fitting up Union Market as a station
house for the Eleventh Precinct, $4,000; for con-
structon of station-hOuse lodging house and prison
for Twenty-eighth Precinct $4,000: total
So COL 534 81. This was the amO unit agreed on in
the provisional estimates.
The budget of the Street Cleaning Department
was then taken mp For all purposes 81 .000,0 0Owas
allowed in the provisional estimates. The total
amount asked by Commissioner Coleman was
Sl,1s4537. The Mayor called the attention OF the
Board to the large amount of snow and ice removed
in the last few days, and thought some special pro-
vision should be made for this.
Mr. Asten said he was willing to vote for $2O,-
600 additional for this purpose. He could bear wit
ness that much good work had been done since the
first snow storm.
Mr. Reilly moved that the entire appropriation be
fixed AT lump sum of 81 ,0j0OOO. This was lost
The Mayor then moved that $l,000OOO be voted
for street cleaning. and $4,000 additional for re-
moving snow and ice. This received a unanimous
vote.
The Mayor then read the budget of the Fire De-
partment the itemG of which in the prOviSi Onal es
Inmates had not been changed from the figures
made by the Fire Commissioners They include the
following items For salaries, including the Com
mssioners clerical force and uniformed members
s., 2S3, 729 20: for apparatus, supplies, horses
rents, etc. $25OOO0; for increase of engine
and hook and ladder companies, S52,
400; for new houses for Engine
- - = md - ND md
Ladder Company No. 10, 100000; total, 81 $780,
l29 20. This was unanimously agreed to.
THE DEMAND OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
The estimates Of the Board of Education We're
then considered. The board asked for $3.33f,950
for salaries of which $2510000 for salaries Of
teachers in the grammar and primary schools; for
sites for school buildings, $25OOOO; for new build
ings and alterations, $GO0OO0 for special repairs,
$4,000; for furniture for buildings erecting in the
Twelfth and Nineteenth Wards and repairs to fur
niture elsewhere SIS, 900; for warming and venti-
lating apparatus and repairs, 100000 for cOrpor-
ate schools per act of the Legislature, $l02 900;
total 81, 43l $50
School Commissioner +. w. Dcvoe explained the
estimates as they were read.
Mr.. Reilly moved that the full amount asked for
be allowed.
Mr. Edsonn this thing keeps on II the estimates Of
lion a. for the psst few wears il win break OF is own
weight 1t calls for Onethrd the total expenses Of
the amount called for win he $40 10000 should like
10 bear from Commissioner Deyoe on the subject
Mr. Deyoe-Ihe amount asked Tor Is pot enough 10
furnish for all the children o who apply
Tor admttance 10 tine schools az Ga7I WI
much behindhand In this particular II the Board Of
Estimate and AppOrtiOnment had gwen the Board OF
Education what f asked for In the past few years we
would not be in this situation. Each year the estimates
have been cut down. More than Sl,5OOOOO has been
thus cut of within few years Fully 100000 VIII
Sou o1 NJ eorl differ % ~ tho oy,o,,pt ~
education which the city should afford. MY opinion
good, plain English education is all that the pub
lie should be called upon 10 pay for There Is too much
money expended in the ornamental branches
Mr. Devoe-It is mistake which is widely dfused as
10 the extent Of the higher education which tie city
affords. The Board will please notice that by far the
largest part OF the amount asked for S2jOOOOO Tor the
salaries ofteachers IN grammar snd primary schools There
are some INNS ihat 40 hoI Lke IN t s of ,
but they cannot be changed unless you bu Tue DuHdE
There are other matters open to criticism MINK he
feels proud OF that body should the expense OF the
school 49, ,,.,., ~, .,.. -, 49,, s
ated each year from the College OF the City Of New York
Mr. Dev0e-About forty.
thing over $4,000 FOR each boy.
tween 500 and 900 boys who attend the College for
various lengths OF time. And they receive there school
lives within the past year laboratory and workshop
have been placed In the college This is The r5t real
move made in the right direction.
Mr. AstenThe same advantages offered by Column
bia College az cheaper rate.
ers ana they regulate the salaries and other expenses II
he wishes expenditures reduced he can appoint the men
who win do this.
Mayor Edison Clastily)-No. III could there might be
q change.
Mr. Devoe-I am heartily in favor Of primary schools.
favor giving per OF the entire appropriation IN
that direction II IL were possible.
Mayor EdsOn-Are there not large number Of children
who live outside the city who attend our schoohi ,
Mr. DeYOe-NO; do not believe there are any cOnsid-
cradle number viii give 81 for each child over the
number Of fifty who lives outside the city and attends
public school And It must be borne In mind that there
L an average attendance OF $4,000 children do not
believe there are than twenty-five children Snug
ged by living through the week at the houses OF rea
lives and friends.
Mr. Reiy-I favor giving the whole amount asked for,
with the prOyisO that the teachers salaries shall not be
reduced