The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1883-10-10
HOLEAN INTERVIEWED.
Politics. P:,rIniog and RaiirOadIng
ia the West.
Do Not Go West Views on the Tariff
QHestiOn-Tariff for Revenue on
Oaly the Luxuries.
The Old TiclSet-ssDana's AnliabiIity"-Thur-
man aISi NaShburne the Favorites-
Also n Good Word for MELON
aid and HoadIy.

Gently Interviewed the great ''Objector"
Hon. William ) Holman, as follows
you have jlst returned from an extended trip
through me west. believe remarked to the
Judge as we wee seated together IA the Court
room al Lawrenceburs whtre he lad oeen arguing
a Case.
''Yes. my wife and have had delightful trip
thrOush 1oloTado snd Calaiornia. ana both have
returned much ben fitted by tHe journey. That is
Indeed great c0uniry." replied JHtSe dOlm1n.
How. How are politics out West now asked.
tons now throughout the extreme West. The
railroad question. though, together with the tariff.
forms The leading question since the subject oil
Chinese imrni- ration mas been di>po ed o.
are Tie peOp4e satisfied with the settlement of
the Chinese question:
Yes. 80 fsrgS cOHld ascertain the recent &C.
lion OF CougrvsS on that question Is received with
favor al oter tn West In Colorado, however.
Colorado is Republican State. and the idea OF
protection has been carried into it very largely
with hepu HiicanisIn- They want protection on
ducts"
colorado is very largely agricultural in its in
terest> toO how 10 the farmers LOOK the tlrife'
asked.
''Wherc they are interested in wool growing they
too are Tor protection but all Others believe IA
Principe OF free trae, or of tariff for revenue.
COLORADO IS NOT a STATE
where the individual farmer of small clpital can
hope 10 gain mucI success The necessities OF frri-
CATION and OF the expenditure of inrse sums OF
money and the cultivation OF lar trace, of lLld
IL order 10 make the cultivation Oi any srlrt profit
able which j. caused both by the a0ssIcc of easy
shipping iaciIuics and the physical nature of the
lane, mdhc IL a rggiOd Offering little Inducements
10 persons OF small means, although capitalists
reap large rewards on their investm.nt>.''
man
81 sefer to all that vast region Yves; of Kansas.
IheTe are however, some parts OF Colorado aud
southern california which might &c TAKEN as
You 90 not agree then. with Horace Greeley in
MS famous advice; Go West, young man, and
grow up with the country" 1 remarked.
NO, as i say, capitalists operaJin a large
scale make farming in the West vastly different
from farming in other parts OF the country where
the necessities Of artificial irrigation and Drama
are not great. and is less promise OF re-
ward, Therefore. Tor individual effort. The soil,
however. is wOuderllly rich in most OF these farm
ing regions o. colorado and California and yields
laree returns when properly cultivated
in reference 10 Tie railroads, what is il that the
people demande' ! asked.
''rBEV DEMAND LEGISLATION.
both State and Federal, which shall control rail
road corporations in the prices char ed Tor person
al and freight travel and regulate a certain ex-
stock OF these COmuanies The tendency in the
West by railroad and other corporations is toward
monopoly and consolidation, rather than toward
tne esteotlshineht o. competing lines, aud the
people desire that the Government. both Safe and
National, shall, b. judiciOus legislation, regulate
ana control these pernlclOus tendencies on the
part OF corporations existing by virtue of special
privileges granted by the Government" said Judge
Holman.
In controlling the expenses. do you mean that
they want the Government to fix the salaries of
railroad Oflicials?" ! asked.
II DO not know that any body has gone so far as
70 demand that the Government shall do that"
answered Judge Holman but they want laws
passed which snail fix the maximum aud mini
mum prices l. be charged By all Companies for tine
carrying. both OF freight and persons and prohib-
ltlng or regulating the discrimination in favor of
one person over another on various DTetexts, and
the carrying OF some persons free. All these
abuses of course, increase the burdens oil expense
which must be made up OF of Others, and il is to
estapllsh uniformity OF treatment tnat this agita
ton is maintained. IL is very important ques-
ton in the West 1t is not party question WHAT
Information has been received lately ON
THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER IMPROVEMENT
qLestion?" asked Judge Holman OF the inter
viewer.
'Tndted. strange as it may seem, they have not
SAID ord 10 me about IL. ana know only what
appears In the paper. What do you think Con
GTesS VIII Go In reference 10 thai matter next
TERM asked.
1T is hurd to tell what Congress will do. bit
believe the general ieeiqg is In favor OF the plan
OF the River Commission. a few o, the more eau
tiOus are in favor OF testing the system ,n some
short distance first The river men. mean those
navigating the river. loud in their demands
that something SHALL DC done keep the snags out
OF the channel and make navigation less hazard
Gus and they have right TO expect that Con yress
shall do thai There should be liberAty in the
expenditure OF money for that purpose. for the
general StnumeHt, too think, in favor OF the
pan OF the River Commission, when proposes TO
nSke the entire river from Cairo 10 me Gulf OF the
uniloIin ahd con paritlYely narrow width OF 900
1eet. That viii cost many millions OF dollars but
IL IS very Important work, said the J lad C.
do you believe that Congress viii reopen the
TARIFF QUESTION
next term, do you think the present tariff gives
IS general satisfaction any that could be adopted
now j asked. returning TO a topic which had
beeu incidentally touched upon carrier in the in
teryiew.
'~Ihe present tariff is certainly not a satisfactory
system !" said judge Holman, nor il Is base too
mitch on the protective theory There are now
ever. 10 he 50 many new men in the next Congress
THAI il is impO>siJle u predict what Congress viii
do on the subject believe that tariff for revenue
should be the only system, and that the tariff
should be only on the luxuries. ana that the ne
INN
materials OF household use should be free. The
luxuries. such as wine, for instance. eau stand
much higher tariff than they now Dear, becaus &c
trey used by the wealthy, while coffee aud tea
should be Tree. because the poor laborer uses as
"HOw about sugar.
The tar, fl l. kept on sugar for the purpose of
protee'ng Louisiana. and it is difficult to say what
bear much higher tariff than IL row on it. but
since il is one OF the necessities oil life do not
think it should be put any higher than Is abso-
do you believe Judge, that if the tariff be
taken of the necessities OF life and increased on
the luXur1es, the Government would realize more
''Yes. ana
THE BURDENS OF TAXATION
would then be more equally distributed between
the rich and poor. The revenue received from the
tariff the necessities comparatively very small.
IAere shonld be no tariff for the purpose OF pro
ton Of what is also produced in this country with
out incidentally giving protection to home pro-
Judge Holman. how is the old ticket looked
upon by the Democrats OF the Wests'' asked.
rather abruptly changing the topic from principles
to persons.
Il found. after quite extensive inquiries. that
the people OF the hest LOOK upon Governor Tilden
and Governor Hendricks very favOraby," replied
Dana's favorite, "and they believe that the great
fraud OF 1876 should be vindiealed by the re-eec
ton those candidates 10 the Office of which they
were fTaudulently deprived. II The health of Mr..
Tilden Will permit his being candidate, and both
he and Mr. Hendricks express a willingness to
make the race. their nomination by the Democrat
&c party is aSsur' beyond any question or doubt.
The general impression in the West, however, and
so far as know. u the same elsewhere is that
neither Of the gentleman will consent 10 again be
candidates"
"Iiow does senator Mcdonald stand in the esti-
nation OF the Nest2''
VERY we'll indeed He is we'll and favorably
known in Caiiun a and throughout the West"
AS between MsOOnald and Hendricks how does
the favor stand 30
That / could not say. / heard expression
on that question. Governor Hendricks is only
talked OF in connection with the old ticket but
heard no comparison drawn between Mcdonald
and Hendricks "
'TheTe is another gentleman" remarked.