Daily globe., 1883-08-29
UNCLE RUFUS SPE4KS- STARTLING
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DefOre De1ng SlOU L QlG not Know it.
UNCLE RUFUS SPEAKS- STARTLING
Disclosures.
Uncle Rufus Hatch has been interviewed
IN the Yellowstone park, and he speaks
right out with all the freedom of a front
iersman. His conversation and develop
ments are lively, racy, terse and we'll
calculated to make the fur fly. He seems
to have no great respect for the senatorial
'Indian Commission" He more than in
Inmates that congressman are purchasable
that they 'absorb'' sometimes even a
million dollars. Remarkable as it may
seem, he found two, and it may fairly be
inferred only ''two, honest politicians p
Senator Beck and Roscoe Conkllng.
Conkling, he said, could ''paddle his own
canoe against the sneak thieves of both
parties" His disclosures are sensational
and startling. His ideas in regard to
presidential candidates are unique and
characteristic. He does not seem to be
tramelled or afflicted by any hidebound
partisan considerations. Either Conkling
or Beck can be elected. Whichever ie
elected, the other will support him. Ii
| the Republican party fails to nominate
| Conkling their doom is sealed. In that
case Beck will be nominated, Conkling will
| give him New York and he will be elected
If Conkl1ng was nominated Beck would
| support him and he would be elected.
The interview is lively, outspoken, in.
cisive. 1t 1s given in a special to the
Chicago Tribune, and makes mighty in.
teresting reading" Here it is:
Uncle Rufus Hatch, according to agreement
opened his mouth on politics last night in a
startling way. He was found in bed. He has
| revised the following remarkable interview and
| declares it correct:
| He was asked what he thought of the declara-
ton of the Indian commission, comprising
Senators Logan, Dawes and Angus Cameron
| that they would advocate in congress the neces-
| sity of competition to his company in the park
He replied that competition was impossible
| I'VE hold contract for ten years." he sad
| ''If there is any big Indian who wants to take
it off our hands he can be accommodated At
whose expense" continued Uncle Rufus, ''tlid
the commission visit the park?'
| SAT the governments, | suppose' replied
your correspondent.
ST wish, thsn,'' said he, "the government
would pay my expenses in here. The Indian
commission can't hurt either Roscoe Conkling
or myself. He can paddle his own canoe against
the sneak thieves of both parties"
Mr.. Hatch was asked what he thought OF
Senator Beck's advocacy that railroads should
run through the park.
He said: 81 should be happy to have some
onr project railway through the park. II
| would increase our revenues under our contract
| Such railway would have to have our consent
| to make transportation. Please understand ]
| invite every one to come when they wish. go
where they please, and in any manner thew
choose, until snow flies, perhaps forever and ev-
| er. Congress has no power to go behind oul
contract, nor 1t dissolve the bargain
could have saved all this trouble last winter by
| employing certain senator as attorney for
! $4,000 per>year to grease the wheels.''
| 'Pieass remember that from 1872 to 1874
while managing the Pacific Mail contract, had
a little experience with congre S. That body
| dissolved that contract because would not ante
up a cent. Stockweu paid a million dollars to
| congressman for a contract. An Investigation
followed, and Stockwell not only lost his mil
| lion, but five millions more, which the subsidy
was worth. l was before the invest eating
| committee three months. l knew there were
men on the committee asking me questions who
| had plenty of Stockwell's money in their poclx-
| cts. There was one man who asked straight
| QUESTIONS. he Utl1 no racine Mail money II
| MS pocket. He remarked finally that they had
enough of investigating me. If you will reaC
| the report you will find the questions and know
| who the honest man was. | have had dealings
with two honest politicians, Senator Beck anC
| Roscoe Conkling."
Referring again to the park matter, Mr..
Hatch Hkened himself to the man who fel
among thieves between Rome and Jerusalem.
He hoped some good Samaritan, either he or a
president of the United States, would pass by
| and pour oil and wine upon his unfortunate
! head. He then said if anyone wanted to ir1ves
tigate either the old Pacific Mail or the new Yel
lowstone cOnracts they could find all the book,
in his cellar and plenty of memoranda in his
head. He had never paid cent to get either
contract.
In regard to his expenses on this trip. Mr..
Hatch said that he had but one way of keeping
his expense account. When he left home ht
put certain amount in his pocket When ht
returned home he was certain to know how
much he had borrowed during the Yachting trim
on wheels by the drafts which got there aheac
of him.
Your correspondent insisted that the Indiar
commission did hold a meeting in the park and
declared war on Uncle Rufus.
Mr. Hatch said he did not believe it. The
commission was composed of lawyers who
knew what a contract was signed by the gov
ernment.
He was then asked about presidential candi
dates. Hereplied.~ that there were only two
Senators Beck and Conkling. One of these mer
must succeed. They pulled together. Ar
agreement was alrsady signed. If the Republi-
can party fail to nominate Conkling its doom
was sealed. The Democrats would then nomi-
nate Beck, and Conkiing would give them New
York. If fConkling were nominated Beck would
support him, and the Democrats would elect
him over their own ticket. One of the men
] would he elected auYNav