The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1883-02-28

| De composed OF I'VE members on the
part of the House.
Carlisle raised the point of order
against the substitute, as the bill
was not before the House, and gave
notice that if it was ruled in order
he would offer an amendment to
agree to the Senate amendment.
The Speaker said the resolution
Of the gentleman from Georgia pre-
seDted question of high constitu-
tlonal privilege, and nothing could
be done by way of amendment other
than such as grew out of that con-
stltutlonal question or Incidental to
it. lie therefore sustained the
point of order.
KassOn then argued against HAM
mond's resolution, contending that
when the House sent to the Senate
a revenue bill (no matter whether
1t related to taxation, internal or
external, or bOth) the power at
tached to the Senate to amend that
bill IN respect to subjects germane
to the constitutional subject
matter. The constitutional sub
Ject matter was revenue, not
revenue derived from schedule
A or schedule B, or from Cincin-
natl or New York, but revenue
coming from the people. That made
1T a revenue bill, and when the
House organized such a bill the
Senate might add one, two or
twenty amendments.
Bedford inquired whether, if the
bill reduced the tax on tobacco, the
Senate could add an amendment re-
vising the tariff.
Kasson replied the question was
whether the House sent the Senate
a revenue bill, if so the Senate could
amend. How far was it not a con-
stltutional question, it was a ques-
ton for the Senate and for the
House afterwards,
Haskell offered as substitute a
resolution reciting the cOnstitu-
tional que ton substantially raised
by Hammond and declaring that
If the bill shall be referred to the
comnittee on conference, the con-
stitutionality of all questions shall
be cOfnned to the committee which
shall also submit its findings to the
House.
Carlisle raised a point of order
against the substitute.
Haskill began his remarks by the
statement that the House tariff bill
was dead, killed by the delay and
obstruction.
Speaker, the chair desires to hear
the argument on the point of order.
7 1IaszOll eai1 eha-a uoS anatbar
bill on the speakers table, and on
that bill hung the hope and faith OF
| the people that before Congress
adjourned they should have tariff
legislation. When Haskell closed
his remarks, he stated that he
would yield his time to the gentle.
men from Ohio Mckinley, but the
speaker held that upon discussion
of poinJ of order, time could not
be so yielded, and recognized Ham
mond.
Mckinley, however, made the
inquiry.
Haskell rose to reply, bat was
called TO order by the speaker. He
endeavored to hold the floor long
enough to answer the question, but
the repeated rapping by the speak
er's gravel and cries Of order from
the democratic side drowned his
words. In an indignant manner
Haskell rose to question of per
sonal privilege.
ooh, that's desperate" exclaimed
Black burn sarcastically.
Speaker-"The gentleman will
state his question of privilege
Haskell-'Myquestion Of personal
privilege is that / am denied my
rights on this floor under the par
liamentary laws of the House." q T
| Speaker-"The chair will state il
the first place that the gentleman i!
sadly in error, because he had the
floor In the debate on the question
in order subject at any time t.
limitation by the speaker. TIL,
speaker recognized another gentle
man and the gentleman from Kansa
was not entitled to occupy an hou
4 in debating a point of order; 70
| bAoI AOe1oOh ehC SCAO1Ol4dn > IlRl
3 to debate was not infringed." Cap
: plause on the democratic slde.)
: Haskell-sI rise to question c
: privilege" Cries of "Order''
q Haskell-"The gentlemen on til
e other side will not take me off tH
h floor by scowls, let that be unde
Q stood"
i The Speaker cannot take him c
J. the floor, suggested Blackburn.
10 HaskelPs inquiry was Wheth,
n he had not right to ask unanimol
k consent to reply to Mckinley.
Of The Speaker Chair simp
o. asserts its own right in respect
the conduct of this debate, and Il
of gentleman from Georgia was I
e. cognized. (Applause on the dem
re cratic side.)
Discussion of the point of ord
Re ran on for some time, and in su
OF tainirg the point Blackburn sa
be the substitute was the abnegati
Oy of power after the fashion of t
1t electoral commission or the tar
= diro"t. fiat and pa
,e rules of I
they had be