Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1883-03-17

ing-it was entirely beyond his province.
Witness said he had often heard merchants
complain OF rates charged, but afterward
come in and pay them. He said he never
remembered of any applicant for a special
contract being refused. In regard TO the
claims for shortage or damage, the witness
volunteered the opinion that his road was
one of the most liberal in the settlement of
such claims OF any road in the United
States.
Mr.. Harrison asked if the witness cup.
posed or had any way of knowing that
any part of the report of the interview
between himself and the witness had been
suppressed or omitted.
Mr.. Stubs said he thought that the
verbatim reporter who was present at TIE
time-Ffank Shay-would know the best
about that.
General Barnes asked the Secretary for
the exhibits OF yesterday, which vera in
troduced
Mr.. Harrison asked Mr. Stubbs if he
thought he had the right to issue such
bill as the exhibit.
Mr.. Stubs replied that he had, and
that it included charges paid to the other
company.
Mr.. Harrison asked Nh. Stubs if he did
not consider the instrument as bill of
lading
Mr.. Stubba replied that he did not re.
gard the bill of lading as an instrument
at all, as it did not contain even the rate
Of freight.
CAPE HORN COMPETITION.
In reply to Mr.. Foote, Mr.. Stubs said
that special contracts were issued in or
der to compete with goods going rourd
Cape Horn, and other tonnage which was
important, although relatively small
To Mr.. Foote This increase of tonnage
of course increased the revenue of gross
earnings, which, however, have not proper.
tionately increased with the amount of ton.
mage, as the rates had been lowered. Ap.
plications for special contracts and rates
may have been refused where there was
resson to believe that the applicants were
not in good faith. Up to the present time
the contract system is only regarded as an
experiment.
With regard to the interview asked for
by Mr.. Harrison, the only person present
was the Secretary of Mr.. Stubs. Mr.
Harrison had, he believed, asked for pri-
vate interview. Witness continued 81
wrote Mr.. Harrison an invitation to come.
| may have given my Secretary instruc.
tions to take the interview down, but can
not say certainly. Probably did,"
THE sTENoGRAPHER.
Frank Shay, the next witness examined.
was sworn, and stated that he was a short.
hand reporter, and had been one for twelve
years. He was present at the interview
between r +. Harrison and Mr. Stubs,
and had taken shorthand notes. Witness
was shown by General Barnes lopg-hand
transcript of his notes, which, he stated,
was correct. Counsel stated that he Of
fered this interview in order to show that
Mr. Harrison was accorded perfect Justice
and satisfaction. A large amount of the
interview as taken by Mr.. Shaw was then
read, which went to prove that Mr.. Harri-
son owned to Mr. Stubs that newspaper
article published in morning paper, pre-
sumably giving prior interview between
Mr.. Stubs and Mr.. Harrison, was not
true, and that Mr.. Harrison then and there
acknowledged that ne had never seen Mr..
Stubs before. The gist of Mr.. Harrison's
charges was TO the effect that Mr.. Vining
had threatened to protect other parties
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the injury of the firm of Richards & Har.
risou, unless shipments via Cape Horn
were discontinued and goods forwarded by
the Unjon Pacific.
THE vETNG POLICY.
Mr.. Stubbs denied any favoritism or dis
elimination, which he claimed was the
point at issue, 70 which Mr.. Harrison had
answered that he would cut his hand off
sooner than sacrifice his manhood to g cor.
morant, and that the firm wss paying $50
a carload more for shipment of goods. MIR.
Vining was characterized as the " Mephis.
topheles of the Union Pacific.
The rest of the interview was in the
same strain, Mr.. Harrison claiming dis
elimination aud favoritism in the shipment
of goods via Montana, and Mr.. Stubbs de.
nying it in toto. MIR. Stubs gave Mr..
Harrison guarantee that between any two
points where the c. P. R. r. reached, that
Mr.. Harrison should have the lowest rates,
whether he adopted the contract system or
shipped around Cape Horn. As to Mr..
Vining, the G.. P. r. r Company could
neither control him nor did they approve
of these local Implications. He (Stubbs)
was fighting in tbs interest Of San Fran
cisco merchants. and had no sympathy
with Mr.. Winnings policy.