New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1883-01-18

He therefore favored the plan OF mixed representation
Mt Lodge OF Massachusetts, argued IN favor .. the
plan of additional representation for Repu9can Sd,es
and districts. The National Convention did not repre-
sent the people OF the country but represented TIC e
Publican party. hill,
had tendency TO DISCOURAGE the Republicans OF Ken
lucky and Of sucn states ought TO be avoided 49,
Mr. Finley, of Missouri, agreed wlth Mr. WashDurn
that tnls was time for iunovai ions lie Thought
IL better stand ny the old landmarks si me Re
publcans Of Missouri were entirely wiling TO gave 10
tue Republican states That cast Republican eiecI0ral
votes the absolute control of the nominations. The
Mr. valentine OF Nebraska. expressed the opinion
that he Chic go RepuD lean Convention mad not gwen
to this committee any authority to change tne basis OF
representation. -,
Alter some further discussion the amendments to the
Logan substitute were Withdrawn.
Mr. Frye OF Maine replied To tue objection against the
large size, Large conventions prevailed all over New
England He would rather address convention OF IoOO
men assembled 10 nominate candidate for President
than address the House of Representatives There was
safety In large conventions The s0rrOws or Pennsy
vania had come from her small conventions Where
great state oil four millions OF people nominated us Gov
ernors by conventions OF $50 there sure 10 be
trouble. II Pennsylvania had convention Or 2,oOo
nobody would own that convention or complain
that IL was OwneI.
MT Devereaux Of Georgia said he did not desire to press
the claim OF any particular Presidential candidate:
There Candidates now before the countryj AID
therefore tins was the time 10 settle this dispute
Mr. SIrobach OF Alabama, favored Une Logan suDst
IL would be wise as MT Lincoln had salul 20
swap horses in ssing If they tried IT IN
this crisis they mIgnt lind that the stream winch they
were crossing was the styX.
MIR Pierce OF Rhode Island. also favored the Logan
substitute. The Did plan had gwen general satisfaction
and under the Republican victories Oh tne last t"ontt
years uad been H. believed mat within tue next
TWO years the local troubles whch had operated against
the Republicans III the lace elections would nave paSseu
away If Republicans stood right together they nad as
fair probability of carrying the next Presdehai elee
ton as they had had for the last eight years
Mr.. MARTINS RESOLUTION.
After further discussion Mr. Martin. of Kansas offered
q resolution that there shall be additional representation
IN the next National Republican Convention Dased
either the Republican, vote tor President or on the re
publican members Of Congress-
Mr. Chandler made q speech In which he said that the
oueson Of defeat or success in the next Presidential
election depended whether tie National Republican
Convention would assemble under the old rotten
formed The trouble OF allowing Democratic
localities to nhaence Republican nominations had long
been recognized and had been growing. 1here was no
Intention OF reducing representation Of southern Re
pubIoans. He hoped that the question would be fully
Mr. Logan thought that his own proposition was
reasonable and dd not think That the propo sons
10 which it was substitute were reasonable III TINS
committee opposed the old system 1t could say
Mr. Hicks. of Florida protested against the South
being goaded by deprivation Of its influence In the
Republican National Convention ...,..,.....
Mr.. FRYE. OF Maine opposed the Logan substitute
beng entirely SATISFIED tnat the old system was
wTo1g f6e Un aSa that eeed its on
Mr. Logan asked whether 1t would not be better
clude Democratic States entirely from the Republican
Convention than to increase Republican representation
in Repunhcan STATES and districts. They had much
right 10 do one the ner.
Mr. Chandler replied TO Mr. Logan and argued to show
the fairness and prophety Of the proposed change
Mr. Logan asser that obj cton 10 the proposed
change taat It DISTINGUISHED the Republicans OF
States and districts where Republicans were III the
Or cG''' Just II Kentucky had 100000 Re
publican votes and Maine had 100000 Republican
vot es Kentucky would have, under the proposed plan,
four delegates, in the National Republican Convention
and Maine wond have 20. Tnat was unjust and tn"t
Mr. Valentine, OF Nebraska, suggested whether #
would not better to wipe out the Senatorial reresen-
entirely aud cOune IL TO the Congressional districts
allowing deegate for each district aud an additional
James A. Garfield Tic favored either that plan or a
continuance Of the present plan-and he did not care
MI Logan offered 10 withdraw his substitute but Mr..
Washbuneof MN not 10 90 go as
than IN going on under he Old plan
Mr.. Logan stated, however, that his motive was TO
could present anything which would meet the approval
OF committee If no such plan were presented then
MI Lacy, of Michigan offered the following resou-
Resolcd That the number OF delegates TO the National
Convention 1884 DO increased and that said Increase
for President In 80 to ncrt the representa-
ton of states districts showing Republican purates
I'm tho Presidential election Of 1850 without decreasing
tue OF delegates assigned TO any state or district
under the last call"
newed Senator LOSans motion IS subsu ute for j, ire
tanning the existing plan OF representatIoh member
anutAer amendment suggested that tue votes even ~
executive session c seuato could not be kept secret
are not carried ont by some clG tLaugAtcr1
THE OLD METHOD RETAINED.
The vote then taken on the substitute and re-
sued-yeas H. nays Il. So the pres Mt Plaza OF repre-
sentatlon retained.
Mr. Chandler desired TO have another testing Of the
question and suggested til o'clock He inti
mated that the motion had been carried by the votes OF
Southern and Territorial delegates. lie wanted to have
another vote taken ana thOngnt mat lie had P'Ila-
mena9y rglt 10 Insist upon vote on the original prop
ositiUn as amended
Mr., Logan deprecated the alluslon to Southern aud
Territorial they all on equality here.
Mr. Chandler defended ais right 10 aude 10 the Iact
that the motion mad been carried by Southern anu Ier
toral votes he simply waited Two or three records o
TIE votes. ,,, ,
taken the original motion as amended by the substi'
tute.
amended, and it was adopted-yeas 20, nays l5as fol-
lows: 1900
dav Mitchell Pierce, Yost Lee, Mailoy, Mason Enos
hn JeWe Febgs ka"nr Martin Frye
Gary, Lodge Lacy, Chandler, Halsey, Cooper, Rule
IL now stands That basis of representation be two
delegates Senator and two for each Representa-
and for the district Of Columbia.
The committee then took recess until 1870.
METHOD OF CHOOSING DELEGATES.
At the evening session Mr. Lodge of Massachusetts,
made an effort to revive the question which had been
decided today and moved to reconsider the vote adopt
ing the Logan substitute As he had not voted with the
his right to move to reconsider was not
recognized
The first six propositions having been disposed OF by
the adoption OF the substitute, the seventh
taken up, as follows: "Shall the State delegates
be elected at a popular delegate State ConyentiOnl"
II decided In the affirmative without debate and
also made TO apply to the Territories aud District
OF Columbia.
The eighth proposition was: Shall the Republicans
Of the districts have the option OF choosing dele
gates separate conventions within the districts by
subdivision OF tho Convention into district
yentOns u
THIS gave rise to long discussion, In
which o great variety of views presented
Finally the vote TAKEN first an amendment Of
cred by Mr. Mckee OF Mississippi that, In States where
heretofore been the custom district delegates TO
the National Convention may be elected by the dele
gates OF the district called together by authority OF the
State Committee IL waS rejected
Then the vote taken amendment offered by
Mr.. Lodge OF Massachusetts, to add TO the original
proposition the words, " put all district delegates