The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1883-07-21

/ same he Sdlu lie Thought he hHtW
/ about leprosy than any one else in the
| world that he would prove to the worlC
/ that his theory was correct; he said he die
not believe that leprosy was contagious
/ he thought the patients should be segre
/ gated; he explained that he thought syphil-
itic patients should be segregated as we'll as
lepers that the two diseases We're the one
and the same thing could not say when
the work Of segregating leperS was actively
commenced; he never talked with me OH
any other subject than that of leprOsy ex-
cept on the subject of cataract l have been
at the dispensary with him two three
times his method of examining patients
was TO pronounce them all TO be either
IeprOus or syphilictic; i'm case of fiissure of
the tongue il was syphiltic same for
ieper5 | noticed that most of the prescrip-
tons contained iodide OF potassium think
he had seven prescriptions ; he wrote GER
tain number and they were taxi" - .he
drug cler& " no pOureI a compound out OF
a bottle bearing the same number; could
not say how long he devoted TO the eX-
animation Of patient; may be half Il min
ute or minute do not re renember his eX-
amining the pulse or chest; in one case,
that of an old man who appeared to me to
have heart disease there was a liss ure in
the tongue the doctor was going to treat
him for syphilis; / said the man might
have heart disease, and that this medicine
might affect him injuriously only; asked him
why he did not examine the chest, and he
said hc had no time saw him pronounce
several patients leprous whom / did not
think were such. COLLECTIONS were raised to
the line OF questions as being leading, and
questions were withdrawn.) He merelytold
me they were lepers showed me spots OH
their arms, and think he told me that he
had not tested them he gave the old man,
whom thought had heart disease, medi-
cine containing iedide of potassium. The
witness said that in the case of Greenwell,
he. the witness, had told him he had not
cataract Greenwell had gone TO DIR. Fitch,
hearing of his reputation as an Oculist-and
the doctor had asked him if he wanted his
eye operated upon ; he told him lac did DIR.
Fitch asked me what was the difference be-
tween amauTOss and cataract; inferredthat
the doctor did not know the difference be-
tween the two diseases ; / have been to the
Branch Hospital with DIR. Fitch; think
some time during this year; saw the whole
affair; saw Mr.. Sumner; the doctor took me
to him / expressed surprise at that being
the man; he asked me if didn't consider
him a cured leper; l avoided answering
that the man was ieper | think | sug-
gested that if he continued improving he
might be discharged after time; he spoke
of him as Il cured lepeT; l saw the man
" Sam" on board the Lkelike a few days
after his discharge think he was leper;
had tubercle under one eye and Il sore
finger; L knew this man while in Lahaina,
L think / advised him to go to DR.. Fitch L
think he had leproSy for about year do
not know that he was leper; | am not an
expert; in regard to the segregation of lepers
at the Branch Hospital, the doctor told me
that patients sometimes climbed the walls
and escaped he had proposed to build n
second fence. but was thwarted in his plans
by Mr.. Gibson he told me that patients
had gone out on orders from the President
of the Board of Health to visit their friends;
he could not help it; DIR. Fitch told me that
he'proposed to bring a bill before the Legis-
lature to make him medical director of the
whole islands at a salary of $1,000 per an
mum lie proposed to nominate either DIR.
Hagan or Rodgers as his assistant; asked
me to use my influence with native men,
bers; do not know that such bill was
leprosy and syphilis as being his own dis
covery; in reference to the letter of DR.
Fitch published in the Saturday Press of
\ priI II, he asked me if was going to
answer il; L told him [ didn't know
whether 1 should answer it or not; said he
had talked with me about individuals in
reference to this disease; no other physician
has ever talked with me about the secret
ailments of other people; his talk was
about leprosy.
Cross S-erdDlined-Could not say when 1 first
became acquainted with 4" SAM" think ii
about q year ago that noticed he had leprosy;
advised him to go TO DR.. Fitch; had a certain
faith IN DIR. Fitch's energy; believe that disease
20 be amenable to treatment; saw - Sam ." at the
branch hospital; saw IA slight improvement il his
condition; examined him because 1 had seen a
statement in the PACIFIC COMMERCIAL ADvER-
TIsEE that certain lepers had been discharged as
cured; among them was @ Sam l went once
with DR.. Brodie to examine patient; the only
remark that heard DR.. Broiie make was that
it pretty bad case; had no other object in
going there than TO examine this case; the pho
tograph apparatus il used at the branch hospital
TO take photographs of cases; 1 followed up some
cases; cannot mention any particular cases; saw
two or three who presented visible improve
ment over their condition presented by the
pictures; l have seen some apparently cured
cases by DR.. Hildebrand one case in town has
shown no signs of leprosy for the last fourteen
years; he was pretty bad case; examined him
in Kohala and found no signs of leprosy on him.
II the case of the old man spoken of as perhaps
having heart disease, / have not followed 1t up;
DO not know whether he is alive dead; DR..
Fitch had a certain form OF questions, including
that in reference to whether he had syphilis
not; could not sly whether he neglected to ask
this question in this not; l was formerly
in the service of Mr.. Davidson; have written for
the Gazette and Saturday Press; 1 may have
written for the ADVERTISER lately; have no sal
aried position the Saturday Press; l get so
much q column.
1t being noon, recess was taken until 1
o'clock.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
The Court assembled at P. ".
Mr.. Gerke, called Have lived on the Islands