Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1883-02-28

; same, and asks for committee of confer
ence thereon, to be composed of five mem
bers on the part of the house"
, Mr.. Carlisle raised point of orde
against the substitute as bill not befor,
!, the house, and gave notice that if it wal
ruled in order he would offer an amend
ment to agree to the senate amendments.
The speaker said the resolution of the
gentleman from Georgia, presented 6
question of high constitutional privilege
and nothing could be done by way Of
amendment, other than such as grew out
of that constitutional question, or Incl
dental to it. He therefore, sustained the
point of order.
Mr.. Kasson argued against Hammond s
resolution, contending that when the house
sent to the senate revenue bill, no mat
ter whether it relates to taxation internal
or external, or both, the power attached to
the senate to amend that bill in respect to
subjects germane to the constitutional
subject of the matter. The constitutional
subject matter was revenue, not
revenue derived from scheduls"A"or sched-
ule 3D." or from Cincinnati or NewYork,
but revenue coming from the people-that
made it a revenue bill, and when the house
had originated such bill the senate might
! add one or two, or twenty amendments to
it?
| Mr.. Belford inquired whether if the bills
reduced the tax on tobacco, the senate
could add an amendment entirely revising
the tariff.
Mr.. Kasson replied that the question
was whether the house had sent the senate
revenue bill. If so, the senate could
amend it. How far, that was not a consti-
tutional question. 1t was question for
the senate first and the house afterward.
Mr.. Haskell offered as a substitute res
olution reciting the constitutional ques-
ton substantially as raised by Mr.. Ham
mond, and declaring that if the bill shall
be referred to the committee of conference,
the constitutional questions shall be con-
fded to the committee, which shall submit
its findings to the house.
Mr.. Carlisle raised a point of order
against the substitute.
Mr.. Haskell began his remarks by
statement that the house tariff bill was
dead, killed by delay and distractions.
The Speaker-The chair desires to hear
the argument on the point of order"
Mr.. Haskell said there was another bill
on the speakers table, and on that bill
hung the hope and faith of the people that
before congress adjourns they
should have tariff legislation.
When Mr.. Haskell closed his re marks
he stated that he would yield his time to
the gentleman from Ohio, (Mr. McKin-
ley), but that the speaker held that upon
the discussion of points of order time could
not be yielded, and recognized Mr.. Ham
mond.
Mr.. Mckinley, however, made in
quiry of Haskell, who rose to reply, but
was called to order by the speaker He
endeavored to hold the floor long enough
to answer the question but repeated rap
ping of the speakers gavel and cries of
''order" from the Democratic side drowned
his words. In an indignant manner Mr..
Haskell rose to a question of personal
privilege.
''Oho! that is desperatep' exclaimed Mr.
Blackburn, sarcastically.
The Speaker-The gentleman will state
his question of privilege.
Mr.. Haskell-My question of personal
privilege is, that am denied my rights on
this floor under the parliamentary laws of
the house.
The Speaker-The chair will state in the
first place that the gentleman is sadly in
error, because he had the floor to debate a
point of order subject al any time to limi-
tation by the speaker. The speaker rec
ognized another gentleman and the gen
tleman from Kansas is not entitled to oc-
cupy an hour in debating point of order.
For that reason the gentleman's right to
debate was not infringed. Applause on I
the Democratic side. 81 rise to point |
of privilege cries of order The gentle
men on the other side will not take me off |
the floor. Let that be understood"
''The speaker cannot take him off the
foor," suggested Mr.. Blackburn"
Mr.. Haskell-Inquiry was whether he |
hak not the right to ask for unanimous
consent to reply to Mr.. Mckinley.
There was objection.
The Speaker-The chair simply asserts
its right in respect to the conduct of this
debate, and the gentleman from Georgia is
Applause on the Democratic
side.
The discussion of the point of order
ran on for some time, and sustaining the
point Mr.. Blackburn said the substitute
was an abrogation of power after the fash
ion of the electoral commission, on the
tariff commission. It was a direct, fiat
and palpable violation of the rules of the
house, doctored as they had been doctered.
The speaker said he was satisfied the
substitute would not be in order if it un-
lertook to do anything more than to pro-
vide for disagreement with the senate
IN the subject of constitutional rights of
he two houses, but this was not done and
he chair overruled the point of order.
Mr.. Knott opposed Mr.. Rammond's
resolution.
Mr.. Hammond said the country would
that the majority was running
)ver rules; that it was surrendering privi-
eges of the people; that it was marching
through the constitution in order to take
are of the monopolist.
Mr.. Morrison contended that the house.
laving originated the revenue bill and sent
t to the senate, it was within the power of
he senate to amend it as it saw fit.
Mr.. Robinson made constitutional ar
,ument against the right of the senate to
originate legislation, whether under the
,uise of amending a house bill or not
Mr. Blackburn thought he hazarded moth
ng in the assertion that though the record
lid not show it, everybody knew that this
arif revision was destined to die and it
vas dying nov in the house of itself. 1t
vas asserted that its friends, did not