The semi-weekly miner. [volume] (Butte, Mont.) 1882-1886, 1883-05-30
MR.. LYMAN INTERVIEWED.
Run Down by q Fortunate Rs
porter, tho Mysterious
'sNo. /" Talks.

Mr.. p. J. lyman, OF Brooklyn, wa
Yesterday sought and found by an
Eagle reporter, with the following
result:
$50 you have run me DOWN." said
he pleasantly. II have made no ef-
fort at concealment. I can be found
bv the British government when
wanted. The detectives know where
1 am, I believe. I don't desire any
notoriety."
"You are willing to surrender your
self if wanted by the British govern
ment ?"
"Mest certainly, as I have commit
ted no wrong"
1.-THE Press seem to think that you
should come forward 50 that the pub
lie could see you."
"And don't I? But If the Press
means that I should come forward
and be interviewed to death, / beg
most respectfully to differ with it.
Seriously, do not seek notoriety. The
English government knows where to
find me, I feel assured. I could have
NO possible object in not coming for
ward, as you call it, other than q de-
sire to avoid publicity"
ut was i~nsinuated that you re-
NAMED in the background until Ca
rey was liberated?"
1.-THE fact of Carey's liberation was
contradicted. But it did not make
any difference. Even if liberated
the government could place its hand
on bin at any time and put him in
the witness chair. If it could get me
in its clutches, Carey would be very
quickly produced"
"What do you think of Carey's
testimony"
$50 far as I am concerned it is per-
fectly false"
"Are there any other men wanted
for the Phoenix Park affair than
yourself, Sheridan, Walsh and
Byrne?"
II think the English government
would like to get = few other men,
and I Am strongly of the opinion
that it would put them on the rack
to get certain information which it
thinks they possess out of them. Ca
rev, from all that I have heard, knew
very little indeed of the organization
which he swore he belonged to, and
which is credited with having exc.
cuted Cavendish and Burke. The
government threw out q broad net
but failed signally to catch the kind
of fsh it wanted. Itknows that and
is willing to run the chance of get
ting q slap in the face from this coun-
try in its anxiety to get certain men
here. The government will likely
demand the extradition of other men
besides those whose names are now
prominently mentioned. England
knows that it has got only a faint in
sight into an organization which ap-
parently has stricken terror into it
since it has dared execute one Of their
mobiles, 80 called. Mind you, I only
speak from what I have read"
ibid you have much difficulty in
escaping?"
Escape is hardly the word to use.
I came to this country without any
trouble"
"What, do you think, did the men
who planned the Phoenix Park affair
hope to accomplish"
II have learned that their object
was to prevent the farmers of Ire
land; who have ever held aloof from
national movements, from going
bodily over to England on account Of
the concessions which it was stated
England contemplated giving them
under the Kilmainham treaty with
Parnell. If they espoused the cause
of England all hope for iceland
would be lost. In O'Connell's time
England bought over the well-to-do
classes Of Catholics by emancipation.
That element is most despicable to-
day in its toadyism to England. MI.
Parnell's treaty, if carried out by
England, would win over the farm
ers, and then an important element
would be lost to the national cause.
These men were kept INDEPENDENT by
the Phoenix Park affair, and the
terms of the treaty were not carried
out. MI. Parnell himself is a good
man, and no doubt would prefer en-
tire independence for our country, if
it could be obtained. If the terms
of his treaty were carried out, he
would lose an important portion of
his followers in the future-the
farmers"
What can the physical force of
men hope to accomplish"
"Nothing definite at present. We
cannet cope with England until she
is at war with some ether country.
If we cannot make Ireland we will
unmake EnglAnd--unmake her by
oo,c;vo tom ,,oro6' with oofiuo roaist.
ance when possible. England can
not 60 to war with any other country
now, and she knows it. That a few
half starved Irishmen should be able
to place her in such a position is very
notifying to her pride. The nation
al spirit must be kept alive, and our
opportunity will come. Germany,
Russia, Italy, Austria, France and
America to-day want some trade with
India and other countries which
England monopolizes to-day. The
consider themselves justly