The Cheyenne daily leader. [volume] (Cheyenne, Wyo.) 1870-1884, 1883-10-26
JASON GOULD.
His Partners Version of His First
Business Venture.
The story Told Before h Senate
Committee AmpIined 80 Jay
GouId's fearful Ways
The Odometer.

Shore railroad train this morning the CONVEX
sation was chiefly about railways and stocks,
and the name of Mr.. Jay Gould was fire.
quently mentioned. One of the party after
awhile inquired. Mr.. Tillson, are you the
man that Jay Gould said before the senate
labor committee had cheated him out of his
pay and board money while he was surveying
a map Of Ulster county7' The gentleman so
addressed Is the president of the Fruit-grow-
ers' association, the membership of which is
composed Of leading peach, grape and berry
growers in the principal fruit-growing towns
in Ulster county and along the west bank of
the Hudson river generally, between Corn
wall -on. the Hudson and Rondout In reply
to the rather pointed question Mr.. Oliver j.
Tillson said: 81 don't know how many copies
of marked papers l nave received since Gould
gave his testimony, but it is evident that a
good many people think Gould was hitting at
me. Gould and | made the most of the Ulster
county map, but / am not the man that told
him to hang up his board bills at taverns.
"Were not you and Gould partners in the
map businessf' was then asked. Mr.. Tillson
said such was the case, and, being urged to
"tell the story, =" did so as follows: 'When l
first knew Jason Gould-now known as jay
Gould-he had not attained his majority. 1t
was in the year 1852. l was then about 20
years of age, and l was living with my
ldtLtIt l. F.. llllhDh, Oh ~ urn III bhtSputh
oTn portion of the town of Rosendale, Ulster
county. met Jason Gould for the first time
On a fine summer morning, on the tow-path
of the Hudson & Delaware canal, between
Rosendale village-where ODonovan Rosa,
the dynamite apostle, lectured and collected
S70O one night this week-and my fathers
house. / was walking along leisurely when
Jason introduced himself, and, after learning
my name, he told me l was Just the young
fellow he had tramped a good many
miles along the tow-path that Sunday
morning to see. There were tears,
real tears in his eyes as he told me the story
of his wife. He was then only 10, and, as far
as | can r~ecollect, what he said Tailed pretty
well with the story he related to Senator
Blairs committee about his failure in the
map business. He said he had heard that l
had some knowledge of surveying and civil
engineering, and he had come TO see whether
he and could form a partnership. He told
me, as the tears started out of his eyes, that
he was in debt, and entirely without ready
money. His story of the map venture, as
remember, was this: In 1851 John j. Snyder,
of the town of Rochester, conceived the idea
that a tolerably good-sized map of Ulster
county would sell rapidly. At that time only
one map had been published, and it was a
small, unreliable affair. Snyder didn't baye
any more money than he knew what to do
with, and Gould being what Snyder called
d ANeiy youhs heho", Shgue[ n ncI
JASON hhho u survey uouiu mao
'hen oceh "oIhlhs lor Shyuer lor seN
.i"i .non'nS' uiu s'oiy "s eNPoI1uCr
credit, and the rebuifs he met with, was told
me nearly in the same way Though he cried
when he was talking to mel as he told it to
the senate labor committee. When John ].
Snyder hired Gould he also engaged Peter
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ny u "1use, Il l "sA." nui co'ne
III nai 1 uuue up my minu that i
w w 30 in1o partnership win 1o"ih ana
plInN, me- BUSINESS urruhgeHnehV was con
sunuiaoeu lou' nays aIoer met Gould on
the 'oW-path No0 one OF US hau mueh
money out nnany we [aseu inc whu-a'
ono fnr R,.,nI ma 90 s"IS G"aI5 -
bis own odoTo,or NJ co-raativ s,,oaLinr
bo nod Iobn I SnrJar,s a.. ca,i, -" p,
concluded SNYDER was mo cod Le,t tbo
odomatar md ali tho e,,,,,oy,s ond hootis -
sides GrnId ma p,i,l, onJ m,saIr 49, -
work with n vim We took difTerent route
and / at least, had great expectations when
l started out with the odometer trundlino it
yvheelborroyy fashion over tho ronoh con,tr1,
rooJs W. - a.. ,roaIJ 80 -
So,,,r 'nn "ouE. ice oNety
SATURDAY nlgno at my tathers mouse, IN
h~osendale, where on that day and on Sun
days, we fixed things up as Jason used TO
call 1t, and compared notes. Gould botrded
at my fathers. We got all through Dec. "a,
1907. Tho map of Ulster county was thcn
completed, except the engraving, aud Gould
SAID he would ike tosel out and so back mp
to his homein Delaware county. We held n
sort OF an auction among ourselves and l
brought IN all the books and papers and orig
NAL surveys, and Brink and l together
bought out Goulds right and title to the map.
All the papers and the original map now
have in my house at Highland. forgot to
state before this that when Gould, Brink aud
l formed a copartnership, John j. Snyder
sued us In tue supreme court We gave our
case 10 In Westbrook, who Is now Judge
"estbrook. The case was dismissed, with
costs to the plaintiff"
Mr.. Tillson here left the train, but, at the
request of the writer, he kindly continued
the story Mt his residence. Ho then hunted
up the books, map, and original SURVEYS. and
the receipt Mr.. Gould gave when Mr.. TiIlSo,
and Mr.. Brink bought him out Tn, follow.