Morning journal and courier., 1883-09-15
Committee on Streets.

The Lloyd Street Extension A Large
 Number Appear in FavOr-NO Remon-
 strants s- Suggested Improvements in
 Other Parts of the City,
 A meeting of the Committee on Streets was held last evening, Alderman Bradley pre- siding
 The matter of the extension of Lloyd street was first considered.
 0. 0. Blatchley appeared and said that there was some considerable opposition to the extension of this street at the last meet ing He said that on account of the opposi- tion the matter was referred back to this committee. The only question in his mind for the committee to decide was, whether g street should be opened at the expense of the property owners and through section where a street was actually needed. He said that unless Lloyd street was extended it would be 8 loss of several thousand dollars to the present property owners He thought it would be great advantage to the public if the street was opened through to Clay street, and if it was not opened the owners of the land would suffer.
 Dr. J. P. Phillips, who appeared in favor of the petition, said that the principal ob- jection to this layout was that it was spec ulation on the part Of the land owners, but these land owners had as much right to spec uIate in land as others had to speculate in flour. The great objection was that this street would be occupied by Irishmen, who had just as good rights as other citizens.
 N. A. Luddington said he did not agree with Dr. Phillips that the opposition was principally on the ground that it would be occupied by Irishmen. He said the general public needed the layout and had long felt the need of this layout. He said a park could not be afforded then and Lloyd street should have been extended ten years ago and he did not see how any sensible man could oppose the proposed improvement.
 John H. Harding said he could not see any valid reason for the extension of the street. He said he did not see any better way for the poor workingmen to get house than by easy monthly installments, as pro- posed by the Messrs Blatchley.
 John Clyne said he favored the extension of the street. He cared nothing about the land speculation. The street was needed for many reasons and should be extended farth- CT. It was needed so that the children could get to the Lloyd street school. He hoped the committee would adhere to their former action.
 In addition to those who spoke in opposi- tion there were sixty five others who gave their names to the clerk as in favor of the extension.
 There were no remonstrants to the peti- tion, they evidently being satisfied that their opposition would be of but little avail.
 The petition for. the relay of the sidewalk the full width of the walk on both sides of York street, between Chapel and Grown streets, was next considered.
 Julius TWiss, representing the Calvary Baptist church, appeared in opposition to the petition. He thought the relay was entirely unnecessary. and said that most of the side walks in the city were paved that width, and it was needless expense. MT. Twiss said he represented one-third of the distance pro- posed to be paved.
 The petition for the grading and curbing of Spruce street was next considered and David Stxouse and others appeared in favor of the improvement. It appeared that be- side curb and grade they desired cobble gutters and a catch basin.
 Professor Bail opposed the improvement He said there was depression in the street and it should be raised about five feet in the center before the curb and cobble gutters were laid. Other parties in fact all owning property on the west side, opposed the i'm provement.
 Joseph Goebsl advocated the improve ment.
 MT. Twiss, wIio appeared for the remon- strants, made an argument in opposition to the improvement and MT. Strouse argued in favor of the petitions.
 Dr. J. P. Phillips appeared in favor of the petition for opening new street between Mansfield street and Winchester avenue. He said the property owners proposed to put the street through their own land and at their own expense, the street to be fifty feet wide
 Petition for sidewalk on the north side of Cedar street, between Prince and Wash ington streets, was next considered. Ser geant James Wrinn appeared and said that while he did not oppose the improvement for curb, yet he was opposed to the grade as given by the city engineer.
 Lawyer Hull appeared in opposition to the extension of Sherman avenue to Henry street. which he, understood to be for the purpose of building sewer that will drain Beaver Ponds He did not think this nOces- sary.
 Timothy Fowler said he did not think that the proposed sewer would drain the ponds two feet. The water should be turned through it's natural course to West river.
 R. Fl. Searles ofposed the improvement. He said that the only object was to benefit the Andrew and Merwin packing houses, and would be no benefit to the property owners sewer.
 In executive session the committee voted to adhere to their former action to extend Lloyd street.
 They also voted to lay the petition for the relay of the sidewalk on York street on the table until the next meeting.
 Voted to recommend the layout of the street between Mansfield street and Wtnches. ter avenue, fifty feet in width.