Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1883-02-19

had been reached. 1t was propo
sition to gag the representative
of the people. Until the second section
was reached,the gentleman from Iowa, Mr.
Kass0n) had brought in a few days SINCE;
resolution looking toward the closing de
bate, and it had not yet been called up
''If you want he continued, ito silenc,
discussion, why do you not follow up you
own challenge and bring the resolution VI
in the committee on rules and bring it be
fore the house. With emphasis. You
have not dared to do it. We challenge nC
contest, but we stand ready to meet it, ani
the committee on rules has never beer
called together to consider it. Yor
may succeed IN gagging the house, bu
you can't gag the American people, and
you can't gag their representatives in
this fashion, which is more adroit thar
mannerly, without protest is made.
Mr.. Kelly, in reply to the statement Of
Carlisle that the pending motion was IN
precedented, said that within his congress
sional experience precisely the same motion
had been made, and had prevailed in the
Forty third congress, when Mr.. Dawes was
chairman of the ways and means commit
| tee, and the revenue bill was before
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letting his bill be nibbled to
death by pissmires or kicked tc
death by grasshoppers, he had moved to
limit debate to certain hour and the mo-
| ton after severe contest, prevailed. A
! large part OF the bill had been considered
without discussion.
| III spite OF this assertion by Mr.. Kelly,
MIR. Blackburn denied that there was any
| precedent, and said it was neither cautious
nor prudent nor wise to refuse the house
the right of debate on these matters. He
believed the revenue bill had never been
reported Or read to the house.
Mr.. Hammond said he had nothing to
do with the passion which began this mo-
ton, and did not care whether or not it
had precedent. If there was precedent,
it never ought to be followed. Any ruling
by any speaker or action by any house
which would pass the tariff bill without
the right of discussion and amendment
was revolutionary, land" continued Ham
mond, with great. emphasis, ''if 1 wished to
damn your party, Mr.. Speaker, L would
pray that you would follow that precedent
to-day. This is an outburst of passion.
1t is beneath the dignity of the house to
do business this way. If it can be done
by brute force, let it be done, but
even that will not speed the passage of
your bill Cannot 10000 amendments be
proposed as easily as one? Cannot 10000
votes be taken as easily as one?"
docs the gentleman propose to state to
the country that 10000 amendments will
be offered?" inquired Mr.. Haskell, and
Immediately a dozen Democratic members
were on their feet, with an affirmative an
swer. But MIR. Hammond retained the
myself, as one of the representatives
of the people, that 1 would stand
in person and make million to defeat
such an outrage. Applause on the Dem
ocratic SIDE. Let any man tell me that
shall be gagged when you propose to tax
the people who voted for me to represent
them. would die before the wrong should
be perpetrated.
Mr.. Randall believe this proposition
is the result of moment of excitement,
know it does not spring from the DELHI
Grafton of the committee in this house,
and further, am of the opinion that when
calm and cooler heads and judgments
prevail it will be conceded it is
not step in the right direction. Now,
have stood here and have counseled and
voted against every motion made which
bore the semblance of being or which on
the part of the other side was alleged for
the purpose of delay. In view of this fact,
want so say there may have been Grim
ination and recrimination from the re-
spective sides and without particle of
purpose to offend. 1 will say that the i'm
preston has been made on my mind that
for the past week the other side had
not been pushing this bill in
a manner to secure its ultimate action in
this house. Deprecatory cries of ooh!
oh!' on the Republican side. In view of
these facts 1 consider this proposition is
unreasonable and made more so in the
face of the concilatory proposition of the
gentleman from Kentucky (Carlisle(. who
offered by unanimous consent to have de-
bate on the pending schedule closed in
thirty minutes, and if the object of the
other side is to push this into position of
obstruction they may, and [ trust they will
hesitate, else We may assume that attitude.
Mr.. Robinson of Massachusetts, said the
ruling asked for by the gentleman from
Kansas would carry the house into posi-
ton that every appropriation bill, every
tax bill
Mr.. Carlisle-Every river and harbor
bill,
Mr.. Robinson Continuing his sem
tence) IF only printed in one section, may
be forced down the throats of members
without an opportunity to debate or offer
amendments. Applause on the Demo
era ic side. The rules provide how the
majority shall proceed and it
is safe for the majority
to recollect that at some time in the future
they may be in the minority. Renewed
applause on the Democratic side.
Mr.. Kasson said the motion had been
made because it was supposed on the Re-
publican side it would meet the assent of
the other side. Al outburst of derisive
laughter from the Democrats. "Listen, a
momeat,'' said Kasson. 81 understood the
gentleman, II answer 10 my declaration
that we we're willing TO waive all further
debate ana come to q vote at once, TO
clamor their consent. understood the
gentleman from Illinois Mr.. Morrison) to
say that the debate might be closed in one
hour or in thirty minutes"
Mr.. Morrison-Yes, on bill for a 20
per cent. reduction.
Mr.. Kasson-Will the gentleman con-
sent to treat every section as single
paragraph, and then to limit the debate.
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