Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1883-08-04
A Talk. With MOnsignOr Cabel.

WHAT he SAYS or CATHOLICISM IN ENGLAND AND OF
HIS TITLED CONVERTS IN THAT COUNTRY.
Monsignor Capel, the distinguished English
Catholic prelate, arrived In Philadelphia yester-
day and visited various places Of interest, and last
evening returned to Edgewater, N. j., where he is
spending few days with friends Monsignor
Capel Will shortly visit Newport, and later make
an extended tour through the west as far as San
Francisco. He IS reported saying, in q recent
interview: "After have Travelled to some extent
shall lecture on the social influences Of Catholi-
cism, the growth and evils of agnostIcism
the future OF the church in England, and
other matters likely to be OF interest to thinking
people. BY the way, 1 was represented in news
paper yesterday as saying that the Catholics In
England were striving for social position. The
word social may be misunderstood, as some of
the oldest and proudest families in England are
Catholics. the Duke OF Norfolk, premier duke of
England, being at their head. BY social position
meant from university standpoint In Great
Britain 1t Is greatly to advantage In all profess
sonal walks in life to sign ones SELF graduate OF
oxford and Cambridge. / endeavOred to found a
Catholic university in London whose degrees
would receive the same social recognition as those
STILL there is no reason why other attempts Should
not DE made, and, perhaps succeed"
81 See," the MOnSignOr continued, "that am
credited with more conversions than deserve,
While on the other hand much stress is made of
the fact OF my having succeeded In inducing GER
tain great noblemen to enter the holy fold Be-
cause Lord Butte happens to be MARQUIS and
very wealthy that Is no reason why he should not
have soul to be saved. His fortune. Certainly ia
large, but that Is no particular benefit to the
church, unless he chooses to make 1T so. also
received Lord Courtenay into the church, who Will
scended father, the Earl OF Devon. That young
nobielnan not only has no money but failed some
time ago for 100000 pounds sterling, so that it is
now said that II 1 brought CrOesus into the
church counterbalanced it by introducing a very
as0e or had MaSn Of to with the
Marquis acted on his own impulses, and sought
instructions under an assumed name. He went
as complete stranger to call on priest in Lon
don and asked for advice The clergyman had no
suspicion OF the rank OF his visitor, and the fact
remained unknown almost up to the day of his
sonaily received Lord Braye and also the present
Duchess OF Norfolk. The Duchess was daughter
OF The late Countess OF Loudoun, and niece OF the
with her; but Duchess OF Norfolk must be a
Catholic, and the Dukes persuasions and mine
had the effect Of altering the young ladys reli-
gious opinions and she came into the church
Shortly before her marriage"
roa "Inen noI you have good hopes Of the uti-
church" WV ~"'A'Ao
well, that question would be as we'll left un-
be inclined to talk about after have seen more Of
your peopl Band understand them better Then
there are many things you gentlemen of the press
wisely reply. In any case should be sorry IL an
unguarded remark OF mine or a misinterpreted
would say that Monsignor CapeI told you he did aid
not convert Mrs. Hicks-LOrd to the church. That
lady came to me from America with excellent
letters OF Introduction from persons of prominence
In this country. She was already catholic, and,
being so we'll vouche1 for, OF course, had pleas
ure in introducing her in society. The circum-
stances may be almost forgotten now but think
l saw 1t mentioned recently somewhere In a
newspaper that the iady's conversion was In
obtain thereby through me. And now. Sir, must
wish you goodbye, us wish to catch the II 80
Bishop Farrell"