Morning journal and courier., 1883-08-04

good deal of property. Most of the people in the western part of the city owned their houses. The Day street saloon had been closed on account of it's proximity to 8 church. There were few saloons there. He favored the road, but not the layout.
 Lawyer Hugh Daley testified that he had been in the railway mall service from New York to Boston for eight years, and from his knowledge of railroad matters he thought the layout entirely undesirable.
 REBUTTAL EVIDENCE.
 At the afternoon session MT. Bryson, engi- neer of the Hartford and Harlem, was called and testified that the line of City Engineer Hill was too far from the center of the city. The disadvantage would be in the number of passengers. Freight charges on competing roads had within few years been reduced more than passenger fares. The Hartford and Harlem line could not get into the cfty under the Derby road and then run into the city parallel to the Derby road. It would net be possible to cross under the Derby and turn 8 short corner and run parallel to 1t, One of the commissioners remarked that 1t could not be done without @ curve. There was discussion about the lines at the upper end of Lake Whitney and the need l of constructing another causeway there. MT. Bryson thought that there might be danger ! in Hamden, from skittish horse, by having | the line run near the highway. It would cost good many thousand dollars to make change suggested by MT. Doolittle. The | iron bridge up Hamden way is sixteen or | seventeen feet wide. To make 8 change | in the Hartford and Harlem line as Mir. Doolittle wanted would cost SIG, ,00O to | $2O, GOO. About changing another high way in Wallingford to the eastward and | south, MT. Bryson thought that it was not \ necessary, as there were no Instructions of | view As to the acrossing near West bridge | and lowering the street there, if it was ob- 1 jected to, the Hartford and Harlem could | raise their grade two feet
 At South Meriden the protest of the peo- pie had been already laid in. Mir. Baldwin l questioned Engineer Bryson on the change of tlFe line at this point, where it is ques- tion which side of the pond the line should l go. The commissioners said they would look into that matter August 14.
 l Mir. Bryson was cross examined by NIT. Doolittle as to his estimate of the cost of
 changing the line through Hamden. He gave
 the figures, saying they were not decisive.
 He said it would cost $1, 900 or $2, 900 to con-
 struct causeway. An estimate YVES asked for
 of the cost of the bridge and causeway, ,includ-
 ing masonry, at present there.
 Mir. Bryson declined to give it.
 s'Fhen," said Mir. Doolittle, s'you cannot
 estimate the cost of what you can see we'll as of what you cannot see ?'
 MT. Bryson appeared to acknowledge that
 such was really the case, owing to not know ing the circumstances under which these im- provements had been made.
 1 THE CITY SIDE AGAIN.
 Joel A. Sperry was called by Mir. Hamil-
 ton. He is in the provision business. His firm handled about 1000 cars of freight 8
 year. The proposed Hartford and Harlem line was certainly detriment to property
 holders and ought to go close to West river,
 or through the cuts already made. If al
 lowed to go through there, they should be
 compelled to make a tunnel
 Mir. Driacon laid in the Mulberry street
 layout.
 Mir Baldwin insisted that the New Haven ! side should be now closed; agreed to. ! Mir. Hamilton now cross-examined Mir. 1 Bryson as to hiss knowledge of New Haven and it's population. The witness said he knew but little from his observation. When he re- 1 ceived his instructions he had no idea of To- ] eating the depot. He did not know that
 there was to be New Haven depot at all
 He had never made experiments as to the ve-
 locity of water in main pipes and it's ob struction from bends. He got his figures
 from German engineer book.
 Continuing witness said: If the popula-
 ton of the city is increasing at the rate oi
 three thousand four thousand per year l and moving rapidly west I cannot say tha
 the road would not ultimately be benefited | by 1t. I don't know whether the hostility oi
 a community is to be considered or not 1T
 laying out railroad, as communities are l often hostile to any new enterprise of what
 ever nature, although they may be bene.
 fitted by such enterprises.
 F. s. Porter of 139 Whalley avenue, wal called He said that he knew where th' railroad crossed Whalley avenue and ht ! thought it would depreciate the value of hi . property &, 900. He said if it went througl there he would sell his property $5,o0o les
 than it cost him, which was $15, GOO. f Charles Fabrique was called by MT. Bald
 win. He said he had no doubt but that [ a railroad in the western part of the city woult l be benefit. One would judge that depo l should be located near the center of the city l Those who rode in carriages it would no 2 make much difference with, but to thos 1, l who walked it would make considerabl dit f ference.
 Cross-examination by MT. Hamilton. Nh i, Hamilton produced paper and handing - to witness asked if certain signature on tn
 l paper was not his. He said it was, but ths n he signed it under misrepresentations di . not understand when I signed it that it was 5 R0Monstrance against a road between Tor
 street and the east bank of West river. a MT. Hamilton-You say you read the re 3 monstrance
 Witness-Yes, sir.
 V MT. Hamilton-An& you did not undel 7 stand it?
 q Witness-I think there was 6 misrepre v sentation of the facts in the case. Mr Hamilton-That is all. sir. a At this point, it being o'clock the con V missioners ordered an adjournment of th hearing until Tuesday, August 14th- f. They will meet on that and the day follow D ing if necessary. It is hardly possible tha | the evidence and arguments can be conclude , in those two days, and if not, the hearing wi Il probably go over until September.