New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1883-05-04
TALKS WITH IRIsHMEN IN THIS CITY.

| tain.
| TALKS WITH IRISHMEN IN THIS CITY.
WHAT WALSH AND SHERIDAN sAY-THE PHOENIX
PARK MURDERS DECLARED POLITICAL Of
FENCE.
Patrick and Austen Ford, John Walsh and
Thomas Brennan were in the Office Of The
Irish World yesterday afternoon discussing the
news contained in the dispatches about the
indictments when Tribune reporter entered.
Mr. Walsh, who was most directly interested IN the
news, said: 81 am of course not guilty OF any con-
nection with the Phoenix Park tragedy. The inves-
tigation ats Paris proved that conclusively,
thought when came to this country that would
| be secure. would not care Mt all If they would
only bring the informers over to this country and
try me here with an American judge and jury. But
the mere fact of my being tried in Dublin will con-
vict me- as they have the happy faculty Of convict
| ing anybody there they want to. can procure the
most convincing evidence that was in small viii
lage in England at the time of the Dublin TRACE
| dy"
| Mr. Brennan, who left England in the first week
of February said in speaking of lyman, that nc was
| man unknown In Irish politics. never heard
| his namen continued Mr.. Brennan, " until came
| to this country he being known in Ireland merely
as Number One" He certainly was
|
are trying to prove. The Phoenix Park murders
were entirely Of a political character. English
statesmen have declared In the House of Commons
| that there is war between England and Ireland
| The United States Government cannot take cogni-
zance of bill of indictment found by Grand Jury
| in Dublin. II certainly will not influence It, L
| consider these indictments the result
| of diplomatic negotiations which have
| been for the past month carried on
| between this Government and England. By the
] way, l knew James Mullett quite intimately,
| and thought that the rumor that he had turned
| informer was false. l see that he has pleaded
| guilty, fact which surprised me very
much indeed He is stated to be the chairman OF
the 'Invinciblcs.' I was safely locked up in Kill
mainham Jail during the Dublin tragedy, bnt
Sheridan told me that he could prove positively
that he was in Paris on May 9, the day of the MUIR
der, inasmuch as the news was communicated to
him by Father Sheehy, who called upon him while
| Le was IN bed at his hotel"
Patrick Ford, when asked for his opinion, said {:
Even IL Walsh and Sheridan were implicated in
the murder 1t was political crime, aud on that
| ground alone they cannot be extradited. do not
believe that the English Government has any new
| evidence / concur with the opinion of Mr. Bren-
nan that the indictment is the natural result OF
diplomatic negotiations. No doubt the Philadelphia
Convention aroused the Ire OF the British Lion and
these indictments are the result OF feeling that
| something must be done. think that the manly
way in which Mr.. Sheridan has conducted himself
both in actions and words has elected the admira-
tion and sympathy Of the American people,"
| o'poNovAS RossA DEFENDs MURDER.
OjDouogan Rosa was next visited by the
reporter. "I have heard the news he
| said In response to question, " and
| thott bia Gnv will
never allow their extraditon. Let England send
her informers over here and zee what influence they
will have ON an American jury. There is no justice,
law court of justice in England, Ireland or Scot
| land for Irshmen. We might as well have an ex-
| tradition treaty with nation OF savages as with
| England | maintain that any Englishman who
goes to Ireland to govern 1t should be killed or
| hanged have no opinion as to whether these
men are implicated in tho matter. II
could 90 over to Ireland now and kill
ops OF the prominent English statesmen,
would be glad to como back here aud admit 1t and
| this country, like every other, should afford an
ASYLUM to every Insbman who patrioticaly KILLS an
| EnglIshman. Those men who have pleaded gullty
have been paid TO in order TO substantlate the
| testimony of the informers, but marx my words,
| PstTiok Eran. who was also seen, said that he
| believed that the indictments indicated no new de-
| velopments He believed too, that England might
little angry now al tne temperate par paS "st
| remember" he ssld that IL is sufficient for the
| Grand Jury TO have prtmd tdoe evidence alone
| brought before them and that tue ueiehce mas ho'
| yet been produced"
A PEW WORDS WITH ALEXANDER SULLIVAN
| Alexander Sullivan of Chicago. President of the
| Irish National League, who was met by TRIBUNE
| reporter in tho afternoon, said: :" have not yet
seen the evening papers. aud do not know on what
grounds it is proposed by the British
Government to demand the extradition of Walsh,
| Sheridan and lyman. l do not think it will be
granted on the testimony of informers; at least
| such testimony as they have been giving. New and
certain evidence from persons OF respectable con-
nsction will be required to impcate them In any OF
these copspracies the mere statement or the slnple
| charge will not avail anything And walsh, Sheri,
dem and lyman. have no doubt, will 10 ready and
| willing 10 meet any of these charges"
One of the dispatches this evening says the pa
ners are already Ia New-York demanding their cx-
tradition" .,,s. r,j
we ARE vet hardly discussing the result OF the
late convention, and the announcement wiii come
very unexpectedly: cannot say now III win % pH rc
| ceIyed but the United States Government WILL, 1
| am sure demand the clearest expression III the
matter and undoubted evidence before granting the
| extradition."
MR.. SHERIDAN UNooNcERNED.
pJ Sheridan. Who was found at the Astor House,
last evening declared that he had nothing to say
"Tbis action of the Government" he said. e" throws
no new light on the subject Application was made
before for my extradition, and as stood then, so
stand now fearless of any efforts that may be made
against me by England. Any time the United
states courts calls on me to make defence / am to
| be found ready"
where were you at the time Of the Phoenix Park
murdersp
81 will state that when the proper times comes
"Do YOU consider the Phenix Park murders a
political offence ~
"Trevelyan himself calls them political offence.
| Certainly then do"
| Z" Is political offence extraditable "
81 believe not"
"Then this new demand does not alarm you r
a.o a. Lac than 1 ahOnt it.