Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1883-10-30
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Judge Holman Certain He is Not a Can
dIdate-The Presidential Bee Not Buz-
zing in His BOnnet-What Congress
Ought to Do in the Line of Reform.

Judge Holman Certain He is Not Can
dldate-The Presidential Bee Not Buz-
zlng in His BOnnet-What Congress
Ought to Do in the Line of Reform.
Cfneinnatf.Spscial TO Ne,o York Times. s7t1.
a reporter of the NelcS-Jourpal snent
several hours yesterday with Judge Hol-
man, ana obtained long interview on
national topics and his own views on cur-
rent questions, in the course of which the
Judge spoke of the great need of reform
IN all the departments at Washington and
OF Tllden's pre-emineRt fitness for bringino.
! about such reforms as are needed there
He not only hopes but expects that Til
den will be the next candidate. AS re-
CARDS the Governorship, the writer knows
that Judge Holman has been solicited by
a large number of prominent Democrats
from various parts of the State to become
their candidate, and thev assure him no
can be elected. He has not vet given
them positive answer, but he cited
many reasons yesterday why he could not
be their candidate, and when the pronar
time comes he will give them an answer.
1t will be negative one.
Judge Holman was first asked what he
thought the next Congress would do about
the tarlit. 1T is not easy to predict he
answered. ''Fhere are a great MANY now
not been expressed. Some Democratic
members Will oppose an attempt to revive
the present tariff, as no bill passed by the
House would have any show in the Senate
as that body is substantially the same as
when the present tariff law was passed.
and they will urge delay until legis-
latlon on the subject can be effected.
Besides, there is strong movement from
two opposite quarters to abolish the inter-
FnVDnI1n s.,&c.
public debt and pension list cannot. of
course, be reduced by Congress, but the
current ordinary expenditures can be
reduced, think, at least $40 600 900 below
the estimate of the Secretary, and perhaps
more. But with that reduction. on the
basis of the estimates, there would still
be over S225, 100000 to provide for, eXclud-
ing the sinking fund, and much more on
The basis OF the appropriations for this
year. So you can see that tariff legisla-
tlon Will greatly depend on this internal
revenue question, as no one expects the
customs, under the present tariff, to reach
any such sum. Democrats generally
believe that the reserve in the Treas
ury should be diminished, and If no
other plan is devised to reduce the
reserve it is not at all improbable that
the House will send to the Senate a bill
abolishing the internal revenue system,
toms for the support of the government.
and such is more than likely to be the
policy in the future. Internal taxation
for the support of the Federal government
has never been relied on. eXcept as war
measure or to meet war debt. Free
trade, OF course, is out of the question.
The question is between a tariff based ON
the theory OF revenue or of protection"
'DO you consider the Democrats as
generally faVOring tariff for revenue?''
"Oh, undoubtedly A tariff for revenue
has been the traditional policy of the
party, and no matter what party is in
power the government will be in the main
supported by tariff duties"
us there not too much money in the
Treasury?'
Certainly, there is. On the lst of this
month there was an available balance of
$15S,00O,000. This is one of the incentives
to abolish the internal revenue. We are
all interested in having the public debt
paid at the earliest practicable period.
We have bonds payable, but the calls are
made slowly. Frugal and honest govern
ment is almost out of the question with
an overflOwing Treasury
'What will the next Congress do?v
sit is hard to tell. l think it should in
some form reduce taxation to the reasona-
bic requirements of the public service,
and see to it that the means available for
the payment of the public debt are
promptly applied; revise our land system
and limit the disposal of public lands
adapted to agriculture to the provisions
OF the homestead laws; declare forfeited
the railroad land grants where there has
been, in fact, a forfeiture by the wilIful
violation of the condition ON which the
grants were made. We should pass the
bill to regulate Interstate commerce by
railroads, and dispose of the great mass
of Spanish and Mexican land grants.
which still affiict the country, acquired
from Mexico, and especially New Mexico.
Congress ought to prohibit She use of pub-
lie property except fOr public service. The
appropriation bills, involving necessarily
large reduction in public expenditures.
will likely take more time than usual"
Nv hat about your being a candidate for
the Presidencyy'
Il may be a little uncertain as Ia what
Congress may do, but | am quite certain
that am not candidate for the Presl-
dency have felt greatly complimented
by the mention of my name In connection
with that great office by the New York
Sun, and other Democratic and Indepen-
dent papers, but l can assure you | have
no Presidential bee buZZing in nv bon
metz
"What do you think Will be the effect
OF the late Democratic victory in Ohio?"
ITO an outsider the result seems to
have been controlled not by local aues-
tions, but by the general drift of public
opinion, and clearly indicates a change
OF administration in the govern
ment. 1t has given great prominence to
Governor HOadly, and his name is freely
mentioned for the Presidency. 1t has
also called great deal of attention to
Judge Thurman, who is certainly one Of
the foremost men of our period. | also
am glad to see that Mcdonald, of our own
State, shares in the honor of that victory.
But still think the indications are that.
If Tilden concludes to accept the nomina-
ton, Tilden and Hendricks will be our
next candidates, and. if so, there is hard