The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1883-11-14
PIE. WORD "0BEE."
ESN Inc 7 ford is Used or N6l Used in
The Marriage Service.
Sore epi mons OF Our Local Preachers
4 egarding the Marriage
Relation.

JFe-e saving appeared IrOFA time 10 tlhle
certain c. smments on the use OF the word
obey j II the marriage service, and the adj
ditional fact that it is rapidly going ont of
use, nav ing become apparent'to all, Senti-
neFrepf Jrter sought number Of our minis
teFs5Or the purpose of getting their views
and G. Istoms in the matter. The result is
given Glow
Rev. David Walk, Central Christian Church,
never the word "ebey"-neSer ask any lady
20 obey her husband. because the marriage con
tract II GpOses no more obedience upon the one
asked ~ ladies II use the word obey" aud have
always said that do not Another reason why
do not ask the ladies TO obey is because know
they Culdn't do il, anyhow
Eev. o. c. MeCOHoueh. Plymouth Church: do
not VI G the word obey II has ceased TO have
the W f. was bought. Love ASKS no obedience; ex-
acts n Dserviee In marriage the husband is as
much under obligation to do the noble thing as
the W &c. II is interchange CT affection aud of
seTTic : have no form OF service varying the
words according TO the occasion.
Dr.. Ross {. Houghtoz Roberts Park-The word
-sobey was left o0t OF the marriage ceremony IN
the ethodist ritual years ago from tue fact that
the a. Kanced intelligence OF the times considered
u inc ompatable with the relations between hus-
esnd snd WIFE and word inepPIopEiatte for such
that twas best left out All Methodist ministers
are Epeeted to follow the ritual hence II IS pre-
snmt that none Of them use the word obey.
Rev =. y. A. Hyde, MayfOwer Congregational
Chu. eh-The word obey" implies sort OF sub
OrdiB alton on the part Of the woman which is rot
se c Sl cur don 81 b thG efG Gse the o word
''Obt ~ The formula originated in the cid
conn Try where woman was considered inferior to
man in her rights and Drerogatives- Woman has
since come up from that condition and the custom
has rOwn into disuse Woman owes man no more
affect sOn or service than man owes her.
Rev L J. II. Doddr.dge. Fletcher Place Church,
don't use the word individually. IL was formerly
laid bwn in the formula of the VI. Z. Church.
pabl shed in the Discipline bur it has been
drop ed, although l do not know when it was
to the man, because it is hard to make a man
promi &c something that he won't do. I don't
ao3 seieTe in using Il dont believe in max
ing woman pledge e. herself i to somethin: she
the mi Uriage ceremony, relicOf barbarsm
Pew MyrOn ". Reed. First Presbyterian Church
-'IO' inquire concerning the use OF the word
obey N The marriage service. use the word by
OnittiI u IT, dislike to take advantage OF the stu
atio1 ! o extort a promise which may need to be
broken. The man and woman are often strangers
10 me, and il not infreQuenty turns out that the
woman is the wiser of the two. There is no use in
making wisdom promise 70 obey ignorance; The
sb0uS TO get married can come t0some understand
Sng. abo,lt their own Affairs | know an instance
an sEOt Ier city where it would have been much
better 70 the family if the man had been compen
sed to obey his wife,
Dr II. A Edison, Memorial Presbyterian Church
The form generally use does not contain the
word obey" though our Chusch has no ritual
sEOtda6e aslse good many object TO and think
the ends % the marriage relation een be fully Sc
q
Sbe phrase means to imply sort of subsection
which The Scriptures really do not demand. The
, ylrsee. as u occurs IN the Episcopal ritual, Is
. elatiou of the wife to the husband, but modern
q ssegsSisns Of the matter have put false atmos
D. SaFe asoutthe word so that in many minds il is
Nc tnse the word obey"
= faRes ODonaghue-We have such word in
eur marriage service. The essential in our mar
Tias tseryice IS the promise of the contracting par
Tes, and this can never be repeated by them
agah The form OF the question is Twill you
Jake Fer Tor your lawful wife according TO the
rite Tour Holy Mother, the Church" The same
quest s1 5 put to both, and the answer is simply
Il VII L .ot course there are other forms in con
contra, 4 The letter OF Paul. where he compares
the hus .ta1d and wife TO Christ and the Church,
rs s9 or r. - Tee The word fSy you bn refer to Is
Christ, head Of the Church, so the wife should
obey the bNsband, the head OF the family
Dr. Ala hester. Meridian Street Church-As uu-
derstand thatis the traditional word that runs
through q e marriage service OF the 4 C. Church,
but at the time of the Reformation this re-
tanned ana has come down 70 the Churches with
connection undoubtedly scriptuai The word
IL used in tN % senses, the one an arbitrary sub
mission and NE other a submission in love. the
st being me 0a mea Tns a;a ttaehed BY
word in Amer ia gyows out Of a misunderstanding
of the word used. and IS also the result of
word was dropised several years ago from the
ritual Of The NJ. f.. Church. | do not use it: have
tions DroSounded 20 each OF the contractIng
parties are the same
Rev. L A Bradley, Christ Church, use the
word Obey in the marriage service becau il is
In the marriage service aud am a loyal Presbyter
of the Oh uren. The word has been in farms for
the narrage service from the earliest days: before
the Papaey existed or had any influence en- the
services OF the Christian Church 1t was pEt into
these early uarriage services because the Bible
says The hu sb2Ed is the head of the wife, and
"wives obey your husbands" The omission OF the
word Obey from the marriage service by others
IA simply anOtb er evidence of the tendency toward
the disregard OF authority and is mark OF the
extreme zndiVidusiism of the day. Every
Seriptursl guard OF the sauctity OF the mar
Iiaee relation should be saeredIy kent.
always use the word obey and
sometimes remind the man that a. the woman
has promised 70 obey il viii be noblest in him TO
keep the promise for her. OF course. there is
menal submission implied in the word. but
loving subsection 70 q necessary headship.
Rev. b. Mabie First Baptist Church = Our
Church has canoBical formula for the marriage
ceremony. the system being independent
gTeeAtional. every church is law rnto ITSELF aud
ministers frame their own formulas Az 20 my in
sividnal CUSTOM compromise the matter by sug-
costing in scripture phrase that the wife put on
before the husband the ornament OF 3 meek and
quiet spLIii which IN he sight Of sod is 81 great