Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1883-11-13

pay the expenses, let 1T put down steel
| rails and do the freight business in man
| ner that will be more satisfactory than
| canals have ever proved to be. The
whole history of transportation the world
over shows that canals are of
! no account in the matter
of freight transportation. They do not
even regulate the price of transportation.
| Mr.. William Lee wanted to have the roll
called on the matter. He wanted all to go
on record. The youngest member of
| the chamber would not live TO see a boat
go through that canal.
Mr.. Noyes defended the report and
| maintained the points stated in it, and
thought Mr.. Drake was wrong, for he
(Noyes) had been informed that a large
part of the whole freight of Great Britain
was moved by water.
Mr.. McClung was not gratiied with the
report. It was not sufficiently exhaustive.
He desired postponement for two weeks to
give the committee an opportunity to ex-
anime further. The vote to postpone for
two weeks was lost and then another mo-
ton to postpone for one week was also
lost, and then the report was adopted by
vote of Is to 10, on roll call, in
accordance with the report of Mr.. Lee.
Mr.. Lee then moved that the roll call be
sent to MIR. Newton, which would show him
and the world that less than one-third of
the members of the board voted for it,
but the motion, when taken, was lost.
PAVING THE STREETS.
The following report was submitted by
Mr.. McClung, which excited warm dis
cussion:
The committee on streets held meeting
On Friday night IN joint session with the
common council committee on streets, the
board of public works and the city attorney
to consider the proposed paving of certain
streets. The result of their conference
was that they recommend the paving of
the following streets:
st. Peter street from Third to Martin;
Cedar street from Third to Eighth; Mime
sofa street from Third to Seventh; Robert
street from Third to Eighth; Jackson
street from Second to Third; Sibley from
Seventh to Eighth; Wacouta from union
depot to Eighth; Rosabel from union depot
to Eighth; Broadway from Third to Miss
issippi and Mississippi thence to Grove.
Fourth street from Seven corners to St.
Peter; Fifth street from Third to Broad
way; Third street from Seven corners to
Pleasant avenue.
The subject of paving Third street with
granite was fully discussed and it was de-
| cided by unanimous vote to recommend
the common council to rescind their order
for paving with granite, and order cedar
blocks from Sibley street to the Seven
corners instead of granite. Granite was
! recommended for paving Fourth street
from st. Peter to jackson street.
Respectfully submitted,
j. W. McCLUNG, Chairman.
Mr.. Oppenheim stated that in Chicago
they were taking up the wood pavements
and putting down granite.
| Mr.. Ingersoll argued in favor Of using
cedar blocks and referred to New York.
Paving with granite made the street too
slippery and dangerous. In level places it
may do, but it would not do on an incline.
1t is impossible to use it on an up hill
| street.
Mr.. Murray explained that they now
used narrower stone and by leaving a
space between the stones for dirt the diff
fcuIty referred to by Mr.. Ingerson has
| been obviated.
| Mr.. NOyes moved to amend by limiting
the report of the committee from Waba-
shaw to Pleasant avenue.
| Mr.. McManus opposed the granite
| pavement ON the ground Of the noise it
made.
Mr.. E. f. Drake stated in August last he
saw them paving the Strand in London
with pine blocks, and said they claimed t6
have a process by which the blocks were
made impervious to water, and the com
pany guaranteed the pavement to last 6
certain term. In Paris they also used pine
blocks. He said that they claimed that if
the foundation upon which the block;
were placed could be made permanent that
there was no trouble about the
pavement being durable. The trouble
had been found to be in a single BLOCK
sinking. AS soon as one sinks all the
wheels that pass over drop down and con
tinue TO pound other blocks down and theI
the pavement is gone; whereas ii the pave
mont can be kept level, and all the block:
even by placing them on solid founda
ton there will be no trouble with wooden
block pavement. He was in doubt wha
kind of pavement was the best and desired
to see experiments made. If q granite
pavement could have been pu
down on the square at The
Junction of Third and Sibley
streets, where there is good deal of heavy
travel, we could tell how it would operate
He did not think it best to adopt the repor
hastily.
Mr.. McClung favored cedar blocks al
the way. There had been improvement.
in cedar block pavements. They now sat
urated the blocks with tar which kept on
the water. He did not want to stand IL
the way of public Improvements but de
sired to call the attention of the membsrt
to the fact that it was proposed to compe
citizens to put down stone sidewalks. Paw,
ing streets and putting down stone side
walks is expensive, and taxes are piline
up pretty heavily. 1t is worth while to be
careful:
Mr.. Ingersoll was decidedly opposed t.
granite. Third street is retail street,
and there was no doubt in his mind that
wooden blocks made the best pavement.
Mr.. Oppenheim laughed at the objec
ton made on account of the noise, Or
Broadway, New York, where there is more
business done in an hour then there is on
Third street in a year, there was nc
trouble at all to hear any one talk.
Mr.. James 81. Davidson, in view of the
fact that the report opened up very i'm
portant matter, moved that 1t be made the
special order of an adjourned meeting of
the bosrd, to be held this (Tuesday) even
ing. This motion was readily agreed to