Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1883-10-05
METHODIST.
Continuation Of the Minnesota Con-
ference Yesterday.
THE TIME LIMIT DISCUSSED.
The Opinion Favorable to Its ADOLF
ton or Notification.
W0M ANS BOARD OF MISSIONS.
Interesting Services in the Evening
Devoted to Church Work.

The Minnesota NJ. E. conference met as
per adjournment at o'clock yesterday at
the Jackson street church, Rev. Bishop
Simpson in the chair.
Rev. David Brooks conducted the de-
votional exercises. There was large at
tendance of ministers, and all seemed as
if they were enjoying their visit in the
city. The conference has large number
of aged men among its members, many
of them being the pioneer preachers in
Minnesota when it was the hunting ground
and battle field of the Indian. No grander
set of men live tnan those grand heroes,
who have spent their lives in helping to
build up moral and intelligent civiliza-
ton in the early development of this great
state.
Secretary Forbes read the journal Of
yesterday, which adopted.
Rev. G. A. Cressy, of New Hampshire
conference, was introduced as transferred
to this conference.
The following persons were elected as
trustees of Hamline university: Il. G.
Harrison, J. Nj. Williams, Thomas Simp-
SOD, Judge H. +. Brill, D. j. Whiting, E.
I. Mearkle.
The secretary read notice from the
Book Concern to the effect that this con-
ference will be expected to raise $500 for
the general conference funo to pay ex-
penses of its delegates.
The secretary read a paper from the
Book Concern at New York, announcing
that 1925 Is the amount they were entitled
to draw as Minnesotas share of the profits
of the publishing house, to be applied for
hanpfik of the I1ua4aH
The draft was ordered.
The secretary announced 1921 as the
amount this conference is required
to raise for the bishops fund
during the next year. It was announced
that Minnesota was expected to pay 81 800
to the Freedmen's aid society during the
next year.
Rev. Dr.. Chafee arose to question of
privilege. He said he held in his hand a
printed general conference delegate stick
et' with his name at the head, and he
wished to cay it was put there without his
knowledge or conse1.; also Dr.. John and
DR.. S. G. Smith protested that their names
were nut there without their consent Or
knowledge.
John II. Stunts, a saperRnua.sd minis
ter, was changed TO the supernumary list.
Rev. j. o. Rich, a superanuate, addressed
the conference in reference to his health,
and requested to be continued in the same
relation.
Rev. n. Hobart addressed few wor DIS
to the conference.
The order of the day was called for, and
after some delay came before the confer
ence.
j. o. Rich's resolution was then read by
the seer starry as follows:
,ResoEved, That it is tho sense of this
oon',,sr - that the removal of the slime
limit" from the pastorate woulu oe
ly detrimental to, If not the destruction of
our itinsracy.
ResoEved, That our delegates to the
next general conference be, and are here
by instructed to oppose the removal o.
said ''limit," should the question come
before it for action.
Rev. DR.. S. G. Smith Immediately arose
and offered the following resolution as o
substitute, which received many emphatic
seconds:
WHEREAS, A respectable and thoughtful
minority in the church believes that the
time has come when the extent of the pas
toraI term shonld be made more fexi' ia
to meet special emergencies; thereto re.
Resolved, That the Minnesota snnual
conference requests the next General con-
ference to consider whether pastors may
not be appointed for ore or two years be-
You'd the present TEN Of three years where
the needs positiye ely demand it, provided
it shall not i.Apair the itineracy or the
efficiency or prerogative of the appoint
ing power.
pr. Smith supported this substitute
with an able and logical speech. He said
he was one those historic twenty-six pre-
siding elders who voted for the removal of
the time limit" last May at the Minneapo-
lis convention and did not regret SO doing.
He refuted as libel the idea that some
held that, because a man might be in favor
of change in some of the old laws he was
disloyal to the church. He said his loyalty
was part of his religion, coming as he did
from an ancestory of Methodist ministers,
he was Methodist all through and through.
He considered the Methodist economy
as possessing a great many of the best
features Of the apostolic church, as we had
deacons, elders and bishops, class-m meetings
and many other features of the apostolic
church, but he never heard of the apostles
in their day having a three year limit
Paul travelled about good deal but did
no more efficient work than James, who re-
manned at the same place many years. He
believed the alarm of those who feared
damage to the church would
arise from the change unfounded.
As great an opposition was raised to ad-
hitting laymen into the general confer
ence-the legislative body of the church,
yet the change proved great benefit to
the church. He thought the great Metho-
dist church was too great to wreck.
Rev. E. R. Lathrop spoke against the
substitute.
Rev. DR.. Morgan made stirring
speech in favor of Dr.. Smiths substi-
tute.
On motion Of Rev. n. Lathrop, DR..
Smiths substitute was laid on the table
until vote might be taken on the original
question by vote Of IS yeas and 53
nays.
DR.. Chauncy Hobart then made speech
in favor OF the resolution against chan ge.
Rev. DR.. Chaffee offered the following
as q substitute:
ResoEred, That in order to conserve and
perpetuate the itineraut ministry, we re-
specially request the next general confer
ence TO remove the ''time limit"
Resolved, That we instruct the dele
of hie IN v0ta for o,ol,