The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1883-02-16
1'ELEGRA.p HIC
POLISH POINTS.
A Count Talks Of His Country
aud His Hopes.

huO his AOpeS.
Chicago, 5.-Msdama Moojeska't
husband, Count Chas. Bozenta Ches-
powski, was interviewed on Poland. He
said he had been q Journalist there, an
unpleasant occupation, because every
thing before being printed must be passed
on by government censor. Fine litera-
ture, however, is much przeG. The stage
and dramatic art are well patrOnized-
better than in most countries
How much sympathy hes Poland with
the san slavic movement?
"a great deal in gene al. but very little
as to that encouraged by the Russian
government. We were In favor of =
confederation that would make the people
of Poland greet state With 8 govern
uent of its own, and united in one great
SlsvoDic union. That is the kind of q
movement Poland would favor. It is the
general impression that tbe.empire will
fall to pieces if there is such movement.
South Russia or Little Russia would take
the lead. 1t is the Oldest Of the Slavic
states, and it had for many centuries an
independent government. It has much
OF the machinery of g constitutional
government now. Large districts in this
part of the country for many years be-
longed 10 Pollard. but they now belong
to Little Russia. South Russia also pre-
sents the most intelligence. They don't
want to be attached or become part Of
Great Russia or Poland, but have q
government for themselves, aud they
will get it some time; but these are
questions Of grave importance. and can
kn nhn1
tering into many historical explAns-
lions. There is no antipathY to
the Russian people in Poland.
The antipafhy is towards the government;
while between Russians and Poles there
is really much sympathy. In 1868, the
Russian government tried and succeeded
to some extent, in creating a feeling
against Poland; that she was against the
Russian people; that was to large ex.
tent artificial, because it was the policy
of Russia to represent Poland as repre-
senting occidental influence, or the gate
through which Western Europe should
enter Russia. They are afraid of the in
fuence of Germany, France and Austria.
To day there is good feeling between
all slavic nations. There is q strong
feeling against the influence of England.
In the Austrian part Of Poland there is
little feeling against the Austrian govern
ment."
Suppose Poland should assume the
same relations to Russia that now exists
between Hungary and Autiis?
Poles would not like it, ana would NOT
permit 1t, Tor the reason that it would be
as the relation that Prussia has to Ger
many, 1t would be lost in the large Sov-
eminent, On these quest ions, however,
it is the policy as it is the
duty of Poland to keep quiet.
There is great deal of sympathy be-
tween the Poles and General Melikoff
and influential but not brilliant men,
Skobeloff is humbug as far IS the Pan
Slavic influence is concerned. Schouva.
lott is the strongest man the Russisns
have. He Is conservative man, and
represents the German influence in Rus
sian politics; represents the old traditions
OF the Russo. German party. He was
quietly mixed up in the German alli-
ance, was tool of Bismarck, Just as
Alexander II. was under the influence oil
Bismarck. He bad no sympathy with
Pan Slavists Alexander III. is not SC
strong as his father. He will be too
in the hands of men like Ignaaieff. He
has no prestige at all. 1t has been the
policy 10 keep him in the background.
He was governed for 9 long time by his
old teacher, who is an old orthodox Rus.
sian and very narrow"
''How much sympathy is there be-
tween Polish agitstors and nihilists?"
None at all. The nihilistic move
ment is entirely foreign to US. We OF
Poland have history that reaches back
and have something to recover. The
HlhiliSts have no history whatever and
nothing to recover. They are pure de-
structionists. This goeialistic cues.
ton IS net with Us, 80 the sgitation in
Poland is political in The true sense. Its
IN relation to the affairs of the country.
not the relations of the people. In Po-
land the people are attached to family
and as tenacious as TO individual
rights In Russia, on the contrary, The
people are strongly impregnated with
the theory OF existence of c0mmunes or
Independent villages, where the COM
munity dictates what the people shall do
and from this has come the nihilistic
movement. You in this country cali
nihilists socialists, but you do not UNDER
stand the 6estruclionists' movement.
There are in the nihilistic party thous-
ands of Intelligent and patriotic men who
have no sympathy with assassins. The
nihilists are the extreme left of the revo.
lutionAry party. In Russia there are
two parties, one merely political, the
other socialistic. For some time thew
work d together, but now they are en-.
tirely separate. Nihilists have no field
for operations in Poland. It is not a
manufacturing district, but fine agri-
cultural country, All the socialism thai
comes to Poland, comes from the west
and partakes OF the German and French
character, bat we have very little of it.
An ong the extremists there is more OF
a spirit Of self sacrifice. The revolution.
lists carry out their programme. Az to q
constitutional government, would the
Russian people cling together2
u would not think SO, Poland and Lit
tie Russia want to &c independent. Both
want to be free from the great or Mos
COW Russia. The most intelligent would
like the idea Of confederation of the
slave states, but the Sisvs hate the serfs
and the Blu garisas hate the serfs Tney
are not yet yet brought up to com mon
interest. They have the Individual in
terests. Any scheme looking to a con-
tederste or representative government
is long way of, because Of this lack Of
common interest"
"How are YOU pleased with your reeep.
ton IN this country" asked the reporter.
very much, indeed. We have been
treated very kindly every where"
Are you 80 much pleased as to be
willing to make this country your