National Republican., 1883-06-07
KENTUCKY STATESMEN.
Henry WattersOn and Senator Beck Express
Their Views on Politics.
H'he Next Congress VIII Fix the Tariff
Candidates and Issues For 1854.

thing worthy reproduction. Said Mr.. Waiter
son
"I think there is no doubt of Mr.. Carlisle's
election. He will bo tho next speaker,
and will probably give greater satisfac-
tion TO both parties as the occupant Of the
chair than any man who ever sat in it. Car
Isle is perfect parliamentarian he has a
clear, incsive, and judicial mind ho is a
graceful orator, entirely without passion or
prejudice, and he is rs Just man as ever
breathod. All these qualities will combine
to make him speaker after the model of the
speaker of tho house of commons"
How does Randall stand in tho raceP
al don't think Randall will got fifty votes.
He surely won't get ten votes in the south
and not moro than ten in the west. 1 don't
believe he will so before tho caucus Tho
objections to him arc that he voted for tho
tariff commission bill. To nominate such
man aud throw overheard n representative of
tho whole body of the democracy, like Mr..
Carlisle, would bo preposterous. Tho Tribune
is supporting him with actual heat, and tho
course of the republican newspapers toward
Mr.. Randall is conclusive against him"
What is the prospect of Now York's can
didate p
"Oh, think Sam Cox will got some votes
The party might go further aud fare worse
But Mr.. Carlisle will be elected beyond
doubt"
"What will follow?"
"The house will be organized with the cleo
tion of revenue reform speaker, who will
appoint u revenue reform ways and means
committee. This committee will bring in a
bill revising the tariff on the idea of revenue
exclusively. There will be discussion in
the house and senate on the bill, which will
practically go over the ground on which tho
next presidential campaign will be fought.
The gist of the bill and the kernel of the dis
cussion will be the chief plank in the demo-
cratic platform. 1t is just as certain that the
fight will be on the question of tariff for
revenue only as that the convention meets.
The hullaballoo about the Kentuckians fail
ing to come up to the issue in the recent state
convention is nonsense. The planks of 1876
plain tariff for revenue only proposition
and 1SS0-which was tho same thing little
differently stated-were readopted There is
some objection to that phrase, and it is not
mine. The fundamental doctrine Of the dem
ocratic party on economic questions is that all
taxation must be exclusively for the support
of the government For that principle, put
in whatever mere words you choose, the bat
tie Of 1884 will be fought by the democracy"
What do you think of Mr. Hendrickss
nomination of the ticket of 1S76P
81 don't want to talk about Mr. Hendricks,
but you can put it in the strongest language
you can command that under no circum-
stances will Mr.. Tilden be candidate next
year. This can be relied on as certain as any
fact in history. No person ON earth can
make Mr.. Tilden u candidate. He would not
take the nomination if the democratic con-
Vention were unanimously to proclaim him
its candidate. L am not speaking for Mr..
Tilden in any way, but my relations are near
enough to him to make the statement that he
is not and will not be q candidate in any
event. 1t is not worth while to come from
Kentucky to New York to say this, and it is
30 certain truth that IL seems almost absurd
to utter it. Mr.. Tilden's friends in the west
and south are shaping themselves for an en-
tirely different set of circumstances from
those that would arise from his candidacy"
=. But.!does not Mr.. Hendricks's interview in
dictate q possibility that he had consulted Mr..
Tilden,Y'
Hendricks never had any confidential re-
lations with Mr.. Tilden. There is nothing in
their past relations which would Justify tho
belief that Mr.. Hondricks's expressions were
the result Of any concert of action with Mr..
Tilden. / don't believe that Mr.. Hendricks
has seen Mr.. Tilden since the celebrated in
terviow at Saratoga in 1876"
Have the friends of Mr.. Tilden any par
ticular candidateW
Tho distinctively Tilden element are not
lmassed on any particular man. Now, Mr..
Dana and myself are both friends of Mr.. Til
den, but wo pull at cross purposes in the party.
have not seen men like Mr., Manning, John
Bigelow, HAIanton Marble, who are.closc per-
sonally TO Mr.. Tilden, and l have no other
idea how they stand"
"Who is the leading candidate among Ken
tuckans2"
Mcdonald is the man spoken of univer-
sally. If Kentucky were TO speak tomorrow
he would be named without d dissenting
voice. We remember the contest of 1880,
when Mcdonald could have been named had
he SO desired. Invent to him. backed by com
petent authority, during the carly hours of
the convention, and told him he could be
made the nominee if he would say the word.
No. nIl .alA Rod l.a.. lNs....
natl as the friend of Mr. Hendricks. He
could not be candidate. 1t was in the
presence of Senator Voorhees, | don't know
anything about the indianapolis negotia-
tions."
Considering the result in 1850, when the
tariH was prominent, what is the probable
outcome next yearW
"You might as well forecast horse race or
the caprice of woman. / think the cam
paign of 1880 was Pennsylvania campaign
1t was run by Randall and Barnum, both
protectionists who ran away from the plat
form and let the republicans force the ISSUE
The platform of 1880 was the same as 1876,
and If IL was beaten it was because the issue
was mshandlcd."
Senator Beck said: "The way view the
situation for the next presidential campaign
is this: The majority Of the people of the
United States are tired of what you might
call republican bossism, but don't think yet
that we can be trusted. We have majority
of the next congress, and the result will de-
pend upon what we do. If We organize and
go honestly to work to logisate for the good
of the whole country, put down mOnopolies
without disturbing industry, carry genuine
reform of the civil service into effect and
keep clear of the idea that power is to be used
only TO reward political friends we will elect
thenext president. The contest will be ono of
ideas Of this character, and will not be af-
feoted by the differences of opinion on the
tariff Personally | am liberal trader
some of my friends believe in protection ;
but these things will not influence us much
The vital questions are so great that do not
caro- to speak about men. There isn't any
one man big enough to stand for them-no
one who towers over the others so greatly
that he can be looked upon as the only fit
man TO represent the principles now at issue
In fact, in the real sense of the word, there
is no leader Of the democracy to-day. Who
was tho leader of the party in the last
senate?'
"It is popularity thought that you were
senator"
mot at all. It's big mistake; there was
no leader. only in so far as | represented u
principle that commanded the respect of the
people-that they looked ON us right-was
a leader. And so Others were leaders and all
We're leaders. Mcdonald, | think is the
choice of the democrats Of my state, and
there is only one republican whom / would
fear to see pitted against him, and / am so
afraid Of him that do not want TO mention