The Indianapolis journal. [volume] (Indianapolis [Ind.]) 1867-1904, 1883-02-12

very cHdfRt6 ne makes. NOW the demand comes
for investigation, and from whom7 From the
parties accused OF improper practices. It is
asked TO be referred to the committee. To what
cofnmitteeY To committee, a majority of
whom are Democrats, and of the party which
makes the accusation. These men demand In-
vestgatlon by tribunal even of their enemies.
The Democratic party cannot afford to make
charge of that kind and shrink from the nvesti-
cation of it. II will not do to say an investiga-
tion OF these charges must not be had because 1t
Will require little time and money. II it re-
quires too time to Investigate them, then don't
make them. When you charge man with the
commission of a crime, don't make 1t if yOu don't
propose TO investigate it. He insisted the in
vestgafion should go on.
Mr.. Spann would favor the motion to recon-
slider on one ground, and on one ground only.
II the charges made by Mr.. Winterbotham
withdrawn from this committee and retracted,
then there would be some purpose in the mo-
ton. But to ask that the power to investigate
be laid aside with out q withdrawal or retraction
of the charges is unfair and unjust.
Mr.. Brown did not know that Mr., Winter
botham had laid any charges before the Senate
that he asked any investigation about. The
memorial he presented contains facts
which nobody denies who knows anything abont
1t. Shortly after that the senator from Sc.
Joseph (Mr. Campbell-see page 10 of these re-
ports) presented memorial from some con-
stituents of his asking that committee be APP
puinted TO investigate, and it thought best
tons should have charge of the investigation.
He so voted, believing the matters stated in
reference to the conduct of these manufacturers
at the last election were true and still
believed IL. And his mind wonld not yield
to any other conclusion until sub
stantial, truthful and just inquiry has
been made which cOnvinces him to the contrary.
There need he no fear that proof will be forth
coming abundant to sustain every statement he
made upon the floor of the Senate and every
statement contained in Mr.. Winterbotham's
memorial (see page 35). He was willing, If the
committee cannot get through with the investi-
Cation before the adjournment OF the Senate. to
continue it, with power To sit during the vaca-
ton, and let it's report be made to the people.
He appreciated what had been said by the sc ma
Gibaon (Mr MeCullOphl taaE ia
not an easy one, and the time is short If re-
port is to be made during this session. He was
willing the committee should have exclusive
Jurisdiction to how Ion g it should sit during
vacation, to the end that the people of Indiana
may know whether this conduct, outrageous
and Infamous in its character, is true or false
Mr.. Bell, as a mem Der of the committee on cleo
tions, explained his position. This committee
has been busily engaged with contested case
during this session, meeting often in the morn
ing at o'clock, sitting part OF the time during
the sessions of the Senate. and sometimes at
night TIL midnight, and it is not through with
that contest yet. The session is now well near
spent, and 1t cannot make the investi CATION
talked of. number OF its members are lawyers
engaged in active practice, who, when the SEES
sion closes, Will have to return TO their homes
1t is apparent the motion TO reconsider should
prevail. II the Senate sees fit TO commit the in
vestigation proposed to some other committee,
which shall sit during vacation, that is another
question: This may be a proper subject for in
vestigatiOn, but to say, in the broad language of
the senator from Wayne (Mr. Foulke) that you
must not make any charge against a man that
too far. The Senate ought 20 refer this matter to
some special committee, with power to sit dur
| ing vacation.
| Mr. Hilgass regarded this a question out
side of the duties of representatives of the peo-
| pie. Every day and hour consumed in such an
investigation is 50 much taken from the people
| OF the State. No further attention should be
| paid to these memorials from either side. Even
| were an investigation to 20 on during vacation,
| 1t would stop where IL began, and that would be
| the end of it, Who would a committee sitting in
vacation report to? And after the report was
| made, what action could the Senate take on it2
| There are other tribunals where such questions
! should be settled. They should not come before
| the Leglsture, over which it has no Jurisdiction.
Mr. Yancey-It is apparent that " hen the me-
mortal of Mr.. Winterbotham was submitted in
this body by his attorney in the contest, it
show the people that he was defrauded out of an
| election to Congress, and for the purpose of
| preudcing the minds of the people against the
| Republican party; and It was to throw damper
| on and iniure the business of two great manufac-
| turing interests OF South Bend. Those parties
| engaged IN business there have been OF more
benefit to the people OF Indiana than all the
Democratic party of this State, nation, for
that matter. Laughter, and cries of "Hear,
| hear."]
Mr.. McCulloch Qnterrupting)-Does not the
Senator mean that they have been of more
| benefit TO the Republican party than all the
| Democrats in the State2
Mr.. Yancey (resuming)-No, sir. I mean to
say that the Studeoaker Wagon works and the
| Oliver Chilled pillow Works have employed thou
Sands and thousands of men to work for them,
and the remuneration for the work has gone to
! the support of their families. Simply because
the Democratic party could not control these
men like slaves, and W1nterbothHm not
elected TO Congress, they come bowling into the
| Senate of Indiana, like towards, as they are II
| Winterbotham and his crew could have led these
| men to vote as they wanted, there would have
| been no memorial sent here. [''Hear, hear. ~
! For Democratic senators to say the Senate
small amount of consistency, to say the
| least, These men of South Bend have
| been slandered beyond question. They have
laid their case before the Senate of Indiana, and
in all candor and justice the chairman OF the
| committee on elections ought to summon his
| committee to meet him at South Bend, and there
| investigate this matter like honest men, and the
! people of Indiana will not easy until this
stain is removed from the character of these
| men.
Mr.. Van Vorhis called attention to the history
| of this case in the Senate The memorial signed
by Mr.. Winterbotham asked that a law be passed
| feachlng 10 the very question raised in that
paper to prevent the voting of employees by
such manufacturing establishments. Following
that came charges upon senators of crime In vio-
| lation OF the election laws in that part OF the
! State. Following that came a memorial pre-
! sented by the senator from St. Joseph Mr..
| Campbell. Then bill was introduced on that
! subject. Now to claim that this is not proper
subject for investigation is not consistent. This
Is proper subject OF investigation, and had in
view but one object, and that is to furnish data
on which to pass law reaching the very crime
of which these manufacturers are accused. If
ii is for this purpose, then the proposition of the
senator from jackson, Mr.. Brown, that this mat
| ter shall be Investigated in vacation, has no
meaning, and is made simply for the purpose of
meeting an objection, and an ambush behind
which to hide their retreat from this investiga-
| ton.
Mr.. GrahAm-This is a charge made against
| two of the most honorable manufacturing COM
panies in the State by politicians, stab at ther
| business. This gentleman mr. Winterbolham),
seeing he had not been elected, abandons a contest
| for p seat in Congress- then comes to tue Senate,
and, not being content with striking at the labor
| ing men, he must, at the same time stab and in-
| fct a wound on one of his own party, which was
| an insult to this Senate; and now he asks to be
| relieved from the responsibility He went into
| the public prints with one of the most infamous
| charges against a member of his own party and
| now he Is tired of investigation.
Mr.. Brown dnterrupting)-Th Senator is mis-
taken. Mr. Winterbotham is exceedingly anx-
| ious that this investigation shall be conducted
Mr.. Graham-Mr Wuterbotham was at the
| foundation of this matter originally. He came in
| here with his memorial and followed it up with