Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1883-11-14

Mr.. D. W. Ingersoll spoke strongly IN
favor of wood in preference to stone. One
reason for this preference is that stone is
slippery in damp and cold weather. He il
Illustrated what he said by reference to
Broadway, N. Y. There, between Four
tenth street and the Battery, che had seen
large number of horses down on account
of the pavement being slippery. In his
opinion there is nothing in the world finer
than Seventh street is to-day for general
travel. Wabashaw, Notwithstanding the
street railway, is line street. Nothing
better could be asked for. He did hope
thar no one would infict a stone pavement
upon Third street.
Mr.. Oppenheim explained about the
stone pavement being slippery. The
old stone pavement, he admitted,
was slippery but this was owing, to the
fact that the pavement was built of stone
blocks about 10 or II inches square, laid
close together. Now the stone blocks are
about six inches long by two or three wide,
or thick, and LAID little distance apart
with gravel and tar filled in between. This
gives the horses a good chance for foot
hold. He strongly favored granite and il
lustrated his remarks with reference to the
pavements and putting down stone.
Mr.. Murray suggested that if it was de-
termined to pave the upper part of Third
street with wood blocks, it would be better
to commence at Cedar as that was the
brow of the hill, and that the street began
to be level at Cedar street.
not at Wabashaw. He thought it would be
best to 80 far modify Mr.. Noyes' motion.
Mr IaI fIa
board to the fact that the people below
Sibley wanted granite, but the coun Gil
would not give it to them.
Mr.. Ingersoll said that The presumed no
one desired to iniure Third street. The
people there want wood and not granite.
Mr.. E. T. Drake said that in his judg-
ment the people did not know just what
they wanted. Many years ago he wanted
to have experiments made with granite,
but could not have them made.
He did not think it was
too late now to put in a few rods some.
where on one of our most heavily travelled
| streets so that all can see how it operates.
Some might be put in this fall. When he
was in Paris he observed that on each side
OF the street there was roadway of gran
lite while in the center it was macadam.
| and he always noticed that the heavily
loaded teams Travelled invariably on the
granite and avoided the Macadam. This
demonstrated to him the superiority
of the stone pavement. In his opinion
the foundation upon which the pavement
i is laid is everything. A board foundation
| is always bad. 1t rots according to the
soil in which it is laid. If the foundation
Is concrete or some other equally hard and
substantial material, cedar blocks saturs-
ted thoroughly with tar and properly laid
make good pavement. He thought it
would be pretty difficult to make a good
street anyway if people were allowed to
pull the street up for gas, water, sewers
and every other thing. All this should be
done before the street was paved.
Mr.. McClupg called attention to the in
| crease of the taxes and assessments. and
| reminded those present that they were
coming up pretty high, and that we ought
to go slow. He desired also that some
amendment might be made to the law
compelling an assessment for water, gas.
sewerage, etc, IN the first place, so that
when the street should be paved that it
could be allowed to remain without being
torn up.
Finally the report was recommended to
be amended so as to use cedar blocks
above Cedar and granite below
On motion of Mr.. Oppenheim it was
determined to recommend the paving of
jackson street from Third to the levee,
with granite blocks.
On motion of Mr. McClung it was
Resolved, That this chamber recommend
to the council that provision be made by
ordinance or otherwise as far as prac-
ticable for gas, water and sewer connec-
ton with each half lot of twenty-five feet
before the street upon which the same
abuts Is paved.
The meeting then adjourned.