New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-05-06

VS. M sncb stare of nervous excitement that he
could not sit still. Once when he interrupted MT;
Kelley with an explanation he said " thought"
Yes rctorted the excited Pennsylvania, point
ing ms long, bony finger at Mr. Hewitt you
thought and y9n thought ine NITey eier S sn
plau from the Republicans, aud Mr. Hewitt SAT
down, apparently confused. Judge kelieys voice
broke down before he had concluded his speech
and lac obtained permission to print the remainder
of IT, Enough OF il delivered, however. to sus-
tam his reputation as high authority on 'he
Ii is expected that the amendments to the bill
will he disposed Of and hnal vote taken To-
o. morrow.
SENATOR BIAIR'S OSs-EXAMINATlON.
GENERAL GRANT AND sHIPHERDs scHEME-sECkh-
TArY BLAINE's COURSE UNINFLUENcED BY SLIP
nERD-NoTHrNG NEW DISCLOSED
IBY TELEGRAPH TO THE TRIDUNEl
w,su1xGToN Nav 5-The House Foreign Affairs
Committee sat through three wearsome hours To-Day
i; REORGANIZATION of Senator Blair and as usual,
without disclosing any facts of consequence that
were not in their possession when the inquiry be-
gan IL is great mistake, however. 10 suppose as
il has sometimes been charged, that the Committee
are sinking their work or afraid to bring out the
facts The truth is not only that the investigation
has been thorough, but also that 1t has taken an
amusingly wide range When the stock OF facts Oh d
witness has been exhausted he has been called upon
for his opinions his hypothesis and surmlses. FOR
example Senator Blair was asked to-day what his
opinion would have been about certain matter, of
which he knew nothing at the time, if he had known
If IL at the time; and he also was asked
whether ne did not consider the fact that Shlpherd
had made certain misrepresentation OF the attitude
of the State Department an outrage on TINS Govern
mentp Certainly, when the committee not only
patiently extract all the facts witness mas IN MS
possession but put hypothetical questions 10 nun
10 get his views on them. and call for his mere opin
10Th n
they were disclosed by this investigation the COM
1nittee clnnot be charged, whatever else they may
he criticised for with covering up the truth Ii is
a fact that several of the committee have encour-
aped a dscnssive policy simply to convince the pub
lie that if there was anything to be found out the
committee were ready TO find 1t. 1t Is also 1act
that several of the committee became convinced
long ago that there was nothing t. find.
The incident of chief interest to-day was with re-
lation TO General Grant, Senator Blair having
stated that General Grant had connection of some
sort with the scheme, and that his name was
placel the witness thought. in the way of indOrse-
ment and approval on document which the Sen
ator called demand on Peru for the settlement
of the Cochet claim. Mr.. Blount, who was con-
ducting the cross-examInation prcked up his ears
AT this Senator Blair had demurred TO stating so
much of his knowledge of General Grants connec-
ton with the company as came to him In his ca
pacitv as counsel. Mr.. Bount dlsclaimed any IN
teution to cast any dscredit on General Grant, but
said that if anyone had been using " that name
Tor the sake of its influence with the
present Administration. in order TO drag
tins Government into "a demand"
Peru that as Mr.. Blaine said, would have meant
"shotted cannon" the committee ought 20 know
IT, Then IL came ont that the demand referred
10 was simply demand by Shipherd in his corporate
capacity representing several million stockholders
m Buckram not upon Peru through our Govern
meni nj all. but directly by the Peruvian Company
upon the Peruvian Minister in this country-a mat
tel with which the State Department has as much
TO do rs it has with the sale of lottery tickets or the
manufacture Of beer At this disclosure the WHOLE
structure of Democratic hopes tumbled to the
ground.
Senator Blair was not sure whether General
Grants endorsement was this paper or accom-
panied certain drafts Of dispatches to he sent to
Ministers Iurbut and Fitzpatrick, which were
sent TO him by Shipherd for submission to
Secretary Blaine. They were so submitted
and were not adopted Senator Blair said
with great eXpcitneSs that Secretary Blaine so far
~ he knew. had never altered his course regarding
claim, against Peru "a ter the instructions OF June
10 and those Instructions, 1t should be feeinDeTed
Wr.e sent out more than month before MI. Blalne
ever SAW Shpherd. Mr.. Blair said tnat MI. Blame
had sistently declined to do anything regarding
the clam, mOfe than was indicated III the original
instructions to the Minister and added that the attl
tude of thc state Department upon the subject
never more strongly stated in his presence than IN
those Instructions. This has an obvious bearing
upon the inSnuatiOn of the rabld ann-Bialne
PIES that Mr. Blaine talked in two wholesome
official and the other private. Upon this matter MI
Blair SAID he did not know much OF q neral Grants
connection with The matter, and knew nothing That
was not credtahle 10 hun.
Mr.. Blair denied the %25O, 900 bride Hurbut-
Shpherl- Blaine Blair parlOr interview story.
This makes the third or fourth time Mr.. Blair has
denied this but il is 20 be hoped that the Democratic
members of the committee viii not drop the point
until II has been thoroughly investigated. %,
Mr.. BlOunt read "A number of extracts from snip
herds bombastic productions, apparently with the
idea of showing that the extraordinary proclana-
lions made by hIm regarding the intentions of the
state DepaI tIneDt were derived through senator
an entire failure and led Mr. Blair
10 emphasize the statement noted above
that alr Blame never varied from OF exceeded the
instructions concerning claims sent TO General
Uurlbut before Shipherd came upon the scene Mr..
whether il wasn't " an outrage on tins Govern,
ment for ShipheTd to make the statements he did
ILL ansE er TO which question could hardly be con-
sdcred evidence even in this investigation. The
Senator merely declined to express any opinion
about IT, saving that Mr.. Shipherd had been his
client and that relation a lasting one. IL the
committee felt Indignation at Mr. Shlpherds con-
duct they could express IL If he felt any he should
probably suppress It, He also intinated that 1t was
not exactly the province oil witness 10 ueclde
whether a man was knave OF a fool Senator
Blair declined to state the amount OF the scrip he
had received as he did not think ii essential II is
understood that Mr. Belmont will examine the wit
ness tomorrow.
DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION EXPLAINED.
,BY TELEGRAPH THE TRIBUNE
WASHINGTON, May 5.-The bill to create