National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1882-04-21
SAMUEL WELLER sHrpHERp.
re Again Appears Before the Committee
and Gives Hta ImprcAsIona.

and Gives His Impressions.
Mr.. William Henry Hurlbut editor of the NV
York World, brother of the late Minister Hurl-
but appeared before the House Committee on
Foreign Affairs yesterday morning and was sworn.
lie said that Shiphcrd, through lawyer, asked an
interview, and later sent note that made II APP
pear that the witness was seeking him, which was
not the case He said the whole story of Shipherd
/ OF a conversation with witness about the go II,
| Steve" marginal note was nm absolute misrcpro.
sentaton of facts. Witness never said he had seen
such dispatch with marginal note. Witness
said he had Ind n conversation with the Peruvian
Minister, who related some such incident, but he
had not thought Of II again until Shipherd went
| over the same thing
THIS IMPRESSED HIN WITH THE IDEA
that Secretary Blaine might have made such
marginal notc. His relations with Blaine arc
personally friendly They are opposed IN politics,
| that President Garlleds policy was 10 settle MI
| American disputes on American soil, and 10 tug
about leace without di,menGSring Peru; lie hsd
| thought the Inter showed a desire to hedge in
the late Peru dispatches. The Landreau claim
| was urged i'll 1874, when brief was sent to Min
! lister TO Peru Gibbs, He had heard that at one
| time A, X. Cotbin, brOthCr-in-law Of General
Grant was halloween Of the Landreau claim and
| that Peter Hcvner, Ex-Governor Henry d. Cooke,
! Joy Cooke, and joseph Carter were interested.
Witness said as TO Shphord himself, ho played
ton may have had Of this matter OF the Peru,
Wan Company" and that his brother General
| hutlbutl saw through Shipherds hchemeb, Wllcil
were most transparent md had said, 81 shall
make short work of Shiphcrd and the people who
are behind them. His brother sud lie thought he
would he thrown overheard unless the American
people backed up the line he had taken in Peru
he, to- thought that Blalnes letter OF Noveinber22
showed manifest desire to hedge N csc ideas
| aud oxprcss ms of General Hufbut were read
| from letter of the latter
HE KNEW NOTHING or THE CREDIT INDuSTRIEL
contract with Morton, Bliss d Co.. except rs gem
| orally published, when he had a reporter inter-
Wow the attorney for tho Credit Industriel aud
published his observations, but he did not regard
the matter as having any political bearing on the
Government policy in South American affairs.
| His brother before sailing, told witness that
President Garfield had asked him TO sec one Ship.
herd and look into his CHIN; that he General
H. had seen S., and while in Illinois had received
scveml letters from him, one OF which was II
bazen attempt at bribery, and that he intended to
take the letters to Washington aud show them TO
Secretary Blaine. Witness advised against this
aud that General II. should take the letters to
FCru. silt the matter to the bottom aud then lay the
whole matter as he found 1t hcflrC our Govern.
mcnt, especially as President Garfield had asked
him to examine the matter; Witness is inclined
to think now that IL would have been better IL
General Hurlbut had carried out his intention,
for If Mr. Blaine had seen that bro2en letter he
would have cut on all communication with this
person ShiphCrd" Mt once.
WITNESS WAS ASKED
| If he knew the purposes or objects Of the Credit
Industrel, and replied that from information he
had received II was a French organization repre-
scntng the French and Continental bond holders
of Peru, who were disposed TO furnish money to
! pay OH any indemnity Tor WnlCl Iefu might NC
come liable If by so doing they could prevent the
spoliation of Peruvian territory. Mr.. Robert Il.
Randall was the attorney for the company in this
Blaine approved the plan of the Credit lndustriel
In this effort, and the impression was formed
from letter which I'm extremely eminent
American" had written to the Peruvian Minister,
Mr. Gilmore, aud which letter being read to Mr..
Blaine, the latter cordially approved its sentiments
Mr. Hurlbut in answer to u question, snid the
letter written by General Grant. aud Is as fol-
lows (Mr. Hurlbut having been allowed acopy):-
FROM GENERAL GRANT
NEW YORK CITY, Nov, H. 1881.
| MY DEAR Mn, ELMORE: | am sorry / was not NJ
when you called on the 18th. Az soon l returned
papers, and expected to see you at live o'clock. Ny
not being in verbal message was sent you to cal
at that hour, You may not have received N. sine,
you were here hear that President CaderOn hn
been carried OIL to Chill as prisoner. hope this Il
not true. What can / Say or do beyond CXpressln,
, my sympathy for Peru IN her present troubles ant
y expressing the hope that she may yet come out o
them win honor2 1t seems to me, however, prOpe
and important that tile United States should step II
now and say TO Chill that she cannot Cypress O
indemnity and security. With great respGct you
obGdient servant, u 5. GRANT.
l.. ST. return the paper you sent to my house.
, U. $. G..
General Grant was very friendly with Mr. III
more, whom he met In China, while the latte
IL was Peruvian Minister at Pckin. The witness snit
that this letter was sent just before the departure
of Trescot for Peru. His only knowledge ofthe re-
lation Of the Credit Industrel to the Cuderon gov
eminent was what appeared in the published ties
I tmony. He would account for these dispatches b!
fan Z N.ig shot, fn IN rnIl! mil