Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1882-04-17
SHEPHERDS SCHEME.
Mr.. Blaine Desires to be Heard
in Regard to Peru-Chilian
Matters.
Shepherds Poor Opinion of the Integrity
of Hurlbut.
WASHINGTON, April 10.

In the Stipheri lnyestigatl0n today, let
ter from Mr.. Blaine was read saving:
Il desire to be heard in reference to Peru
Gillian matters now under investigation"
The chairman was directed to acknowledge
the receipt of the letter, leaving it an open
question for the present when Blaine should
be heard.
Representative Lord then took up the cross
examination of Shipherd. The witness stat
ed in reply to a question:
dealt with Hurlbut as would have dealt
with recognized criminal. The dealings l
had with him, were by advice of counsel.
The witness was closely pressed upon this
point and finely went into a longer explana-
ton: that in his dealings with Hurlbut he
acted wholly on the defense. as he would
man who would strike him; and, in dealing
with him, he realized that he was bad man,
and that he must so treat him TO prevent
him from injuring him. | didn't intend to
mislead Gen. Hurlbut. | meant just what l
said in my offer to him.
Lord, interrupting: l don't care for a long
explanation of the PHILOSOPHY of your action.
You can in few words state just what you
mean. Your promise meant nothing unless
vour language was construed the same by
both OF you.
Witness-I put out the letter to test his
moral appreciation. 1 intended to let him
construe it as he saw fit, believing he would
act upon it, and at the proper time would ex-
pect such an interest as he believed due to
him.
Lord-Then. until you both agreed as to
the moral Interpretation of the letter. you
expected to consider that you were response
BILE for nothing but virtuous and honorable
proposal, and Hurlbut would have nothing to
expect and you would have nothing to pay.
Witness-That was my view in part.
The witness admitted that Gov. Boutwell,
was consulted in regard to the letter after he
had been sent and his comment was: That
letter seems plain enough to a careful reader,
but if | had been consulted, Shipherd, doubt
if | should have advised sending it.
In answer to question, Shipherd said he
hoped in his interview with Blaine to infiu-
ence the character of the instructions 10
Hurlbut.
Referring to his letter of June I'd, the wit
ness understood Senator Blair's remark in
speaking of the folly of it as a playful re-
mark, and it was also playful on the part of
the secretary when no said THAT won't fetch
him.
Mr.. Lord-And you nave admitted that
you were dealing as with a recognized vii
lain, and your counsel and the secretary had
commented upon the inadequacy of the re-
ward you proposed to offer. Did all three of
you oons''e' ''''' you were ueaiihg WIN
'iiIc.n'
Witnes>-I understood the secretary to
refer to me and those l represented, when he
saio Ihat won ietch MN. TOOK 1t as
PuiIy J'oose re,!arA' MY impression that
liur,ou' was william was deepened as we
"T I o'
hen ma, u'u 70" mean Ill suose.
quen' ie'ter 'o i"riput oy saving you would
stahd oy MN as Drother. ana pralslng him
as patriot.
witness Twin some lrrltatlou)-Oh, my
ietlers snow LOT themselves, they don't need
any parapnrasing'
Lord men Whatever advantages you ex-