New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-06-14

ouShy Have you any recollection q any such inter-
viewf And IL so. when and where ana ~ take PS,ch ut
Mr. Blaine-The only part OF that testmon! ~
all to is the last part where ne says 'H"' u"
derstood the subject Thoroughly Lsnsn te Same pare
The chairman-Mr Randall testlnes on 'he Ss.u r.,
as follows Mr. Blaine subsequently, stated 10 me th nv
own opinion that he considered them feasible in sTery
way and n understood him. tal .e roner IN their
nerotiations in south America that 49, that they Mo
| utilize the programme" What reply uo 'ou ~ "
make 10 had any such conversation or said
| any thing out Ct which II could DO nlanl"O'Ai'1 F
| in the imagination of man.
| ,Tur orrsTToN OF MINISTER TO PERU.
| Tho cbo,rnan--IIo says again "At that or a suose-
| ouent interview VIC discussed who should DC sch'
10 Minister TO Peru. He asked II had any opinion
an that subject as to who would be proper person
This after had discussed the programme, 70
member suggesting 10 him Mr.. William f. Chandler,
dont know whether at that interview or suDse-
quenty that he said Would it be satisfactory 10 your
| friends II we sent General Hurlbut " - -,
Blaine Qaughngltis very EXTRAORDINARY now oS t h
Interview be stated Mr. Randall came 10 me AZ vas
| Department day and asked me wiz, Wso wa"
going to be sent to Peru as not Mi,'iS'I matter
S Tnds YEA. Of any s great cons@GIence
either then urged or suggested MI. , -,
Perm Then said TO him =" think that the President
will General Hurlbut That was Within Iwo h a
idea OF my asking whether Genera! Huribut would De
satisfactory the Credit Indnstrei was no'e ue alter
ward understood saw by the papers tna' GerDi d
urbut was nominated Tor ,e mnribt that the
neirnctions Which he had given TO General Hurbut
were accord with my views ana my pians' anu "ou'
| be satisfactory to my clients" ,,.o
with him as TO instructions to be given to Genera
| IIurlbut ~, .u,,r,on,, NJ
The char1nan-stn quoting from the testimony 81
MIR Randall "O.-These are instructions OF Junc -
A-Of June Is to General HurlbuL theh staou "
that thought would 90 10 Europe ana Ito appio'0u
Mr. Baine-DOes he state that he saw the instructions
The cnSrman~Yo repeating the extract jest read
| from the testimony , "a, Univ what in the
| world had TO do with his gong 10 EUROPE
| THE CONTRACT OF MORTON. BLISS 4 co.
The chairman continuing to ready My object
| think / expressed. personally TO explain 10 NY
clients the status of the then administration as 10 'hell
urogramme and while there concluded the CONTRACT Vi
! Morton Bliss & Co. but that would have Dceh done
| Hr. Baine-Does lie intimate that heard him say
! anything about Morton, Bliss IL CO. 800 o-o,,od of
The cbarinau-Nu, puI Ae says ''-' 'ON "lF'
| his going TO Europe. ,, 49,, t,
! MP. Baine-l never rccoIect anything being sad
about his going 10 Europe hao no conNeIsauo" WAN
| them about ghate, in the remotest mahner
| The cLairman-Did you communicate TO MI hahuaI
| your instructions 10 General Hur,Dutf -,
| Mr. Hlaine-Never 1 never spoke to him about them
never the world Ineyer teerred 10 t Eemdas tes
| mony: went to Europe the 9Th OF July, with view
Of a m that had ranspTed in the United states
| the purpose of communicating that WHcI l leit
knew be the Instructions 10 General iiHIout, thou
| / had never them. Mr.; Blaine had communicates
| MT Eiajne|i don't remember having the slightest
| conversation with INN about 1t at al ,,,o,, ..,
| The Chairman-(rcadlng from MI. hanudHS tcs'I
mouy would state that Oh thc lth OF 40. ~
Air. Blaine and az thai lneIVle" ne staten 10 ne 81
of November and tie "a OF December; ' nGe
tire affair IN reference securing peace TO PRESIDENT
Arthur and had had tut conference WIN nIIh' ,lu
the President approved Of what had been done oIt
that OWING fact that General hurDut had so INTO
a controversy IN consequence of the Iynch haIuoSto
thonght it would be Impossible for General HnlDut to
carry out the policy anu iot nat Pupo9e 'ne 80 d n
mad agreed with nm that II would De proper 70 sonu "
sDera commissioner with power 10 Drng ABOUT peacc
between Peru and Chl ana S 9u 'nn. n3 6mef en-
missioner had not been decided upon ne was nnseh o
gagged the nstruo ions that TO- lie lNr' blane' Was
| on ne Instructions" ..-,..,
Mr. Eaine-I have read to you the Presidents letter IN
| answer to that. $1,000, . t, .os,;,o,r,
At that interview lac again intlmated or rcattu as
settled what MI TIeocoIs Instructions would L.i
| he in carving out the Credit lndlslTlel
programme, with the exception that the CreUt uu7-
Ir,rI Was not spoken OF in them" , .
Mr. Eame1Weli that / think is a very kind Of
the Chairman continuing to readl-"If had read
tbeln at the time certainly should indorsed them
for the instructions Blame air. Irescot, do
not think, COULD haEe been stronger Vi 'nA' ny ''-
MIR Blaine-Only that the su,9ect was not mentioned
I.angnterJ That is very odd statement beg the
| chairman read IL over again ,,,...
| Mr. BIaine-rhat most extraordinary statement
that gave just exactly the instructions that ne Wanted
IN reference TO Credit Industrie only That the Credit
Induslrel was men Toned III II. lLiugnterl 49,,
The CHAIRMAN then read further extracts from MT
AT the nrst interview with MI. Blaine laid before
him our programme, also the papers and likewise com
nuuicaed 10 hin the substance OF the interviews haC
1 with MI Evarts. discussed the WhOe suDect VIII
him found, as have already stated, Mt Blaine per
fec IN al hoine the subject saw IIAt lie was gfatl
ned ana pleased position to tender gu
ni,ces TO- Fcr,I aud / understood nm that heShougn
J there was reason wny the Unlte'
e states should not accept the proicciorau
dd ne give slightest reason 10 presume lie Nae
changed plans or Vlews MY last nJtiNle" MAS vi
the IUtn OF llth OF December, 1851.
q | Il
Mr. Baine-Tnat refers also Mr. TrescOt's mission
The only thing Oh which base NJ. kandaPs msap
, prelension this may have had some converse
ZION with him. but if had the eject Of was the sau
as my expression touching the Credit induslre
in my dispatch TO Mr. HhrDut OF November 10. WI
read an from II TO the committee rcadlHs) Oi
the 27tn ultino sent yOu the Iono"'ns teosr am III
nucnce OF your po'lnoh must .l"V W u.s. ~ ut ~
| Credit Industrel or any OtheI hIahe'N Vi sleou
e,,ed vnr reply IN these words 1t las not been
IL Will DE-. My reason Tor elcgiapDnB you was tn'
continual circulation OF ranors tAat ine Hd OF your ega
ton was earnestly desired 10 promote the interest OF h
Credit IndustreI France, AN association wIlch II
AGENTS OF the Credit Industriel had visited TN
Ir1uCnt M state and inef, ctually endeavOreI to
st Tie interest THIS Government III tDeir Dehal
However Trustworthy the Credit lhduste may De- u1
ibte Whatever " do with IT, IL Is foreign corporation
responsible French law. aud must seek It's aIohaS
! | and protection from France. Al the same time
with It's negotia lions with The Peruvian Government
if can be made au effective instrunenialty to aid tina
unhappy country PROSTATE and helpless cOndl lOu
il od be ungenerOus and unjust 10 ObsIuct lts opera
lions Your duty is negative, aud you VIII nave luH
complied with your Instructions by simply aDstaiAlh
from ali connection with the association"
said to Count de Montferrand that hecould do any
thing there III the way OF Relieving inc sltuauon
= Inc United States would be very giad 10 nav
| IL done lie then asked me: Why not accep
4 onr proposition g. argued with MIN very deliberately
1 said Suppose approve your object ana wished GU
success; ana suppose you 20 down there ana nInedl
aely begin Of action dstasteul 10 ths Govern
IncIit: what control would have over yOuf Then
Teated a little auecdote. / told hun tnat when Edwin
! NJ stanton was Secretary OF War lac took Tie tele
graph lines under military control ana appointed
. Sir sanford Military superintendent OI Ieesrapns
| Wben Mr.. SANFORD 10 Washington 10 get MS III
structions MT stanton handed him commission a.
Assistant Adiutaut General with the rank OF Colonel