The sun., 1882-04-09
MR.. BLAINE AND SHEPHERD.
Personal INTERTTEWs BETTEEN THE
TWO IN W4SLINGTON.
shipherd Giving his Recollection OF Them to
the House Corhmitteo - IntimntinE that
blaine Rather Left Him in the I.urch.

the House CoE,mittee - Intimnting that
blaine Rather Left Him in the Lurch.
WASHINGTON, April S.-The examination Of
Jacob H. ShIpherd before the House Committee
on Foreign Affairs was resumed to day. Mr..
Shiphcrd first proposed to put in evidence a
copy OF an Aurora. ILL.,. newspaper of Nov. 8.
1876. containing a reprint OF documents al
logod to be on file in tho War Department.
charging Gen. Hurlbut with bribery. corrup-
ton perjury. and Justification Of the records
while in the army. Tho result OF the discussion
was that the question was tabled for the present
Mr. Shinherd was then asked to state what
personal interviews he had with Secretary
Blaine. He replied that ho had the first inter-
Wow with him on the evening OF Oct. IS. and
another on the morning OF Oct. H. He gave
tho circumstances which led up TO the first in
terview. going back to the dispatches which
ho tShipherd) had supposed were sent by
Blaine to Hurlbut. These dispatches. he sad
were read to Senator Blair by Mr.. Blaine on June
2. and subsequently Senator Blair remarked
despatc l hes s"'y5U yyourself they Could not have
covered covered the ground more PERFECTLY o,sdr par.
that no tShphcrdl saw senator Blair. and
asked i the dispatches had been sent and was
days uftorward, Senator Blair said to tho wit
ness; have seen the Secretary. and he says
OF any ind.S When tho T,'"i witness recoiyed
llurlbuts letter saying that no such dispatches
had been received. he at once sought senator
was i greatly W puzzled. and said: MIR. shiphcrd,
this affects my yernciy and that of the Secre-
gate" He advised witness TO como to Wash
iington and lay the, matter before tho Secretary.
He did SO. ana had his first interview with tho
Secretary on the evening Of Oct. 49, The Secre-
tary appeared little impatient. and. rs he
HSdGt OF Rs T S Gm nr ne
butts letter. He took it, read it, threw it down.
and said:
Witness said: !" Mr.. Secretary il dlsturbs us
BY what it does not say rather than by what it
says nothing OF American interests"
=, ,Shiphcrd said that he then adyrrted to Mr..
documcnls he had been requested to deliver 10
| Mr.. Arizona. whereupon MIR. Blaine retorted
wv hat business had you to make an crrand
| boy of an American Minister? II he had thrown
sarysS s ySpT naGST into the fire he would have
shipherd said that he then told Blaine what
was reported OF, Hurlbuts intimacy with sua-
steamer; that on arriving ut Lima, Suarez had
placed at Mr., Hurbut's disposal one Of the
eXeeponay Ssr we'll st stoeked % AND Md that Se Mr. Hur
| but was occupying 1t free OF expense to him
sof. and oil had been furnished by the Credit
lndustriel According TO shipherd, the follow
Mr., Blaine dangling incredulously).,.o oh.
has some som deal. You r can't catch him M in n that
Mr. shlpherd--" Well. Mr.. Secretary. their
intimacy Il; matter of public eommentin Lima;
hsE THYs o YEo sgaTaa s
be true he must must fsve sold ont 70 the er%dis
EHfustre WSst m viii 60 to a. the G9t,om of this
| Mr. Shipherd .thandng him Il draft Of de-
snatchl-Send that to llr. Hurlbut.
| Mr.. Bla inc tafter reading itl-No. not that. 1t
would raise howl in Congress.
his chair despatch in substance as follows:
your conduct is such rs to lead to suspicion Of
| Improper relations with tho Credit Industriel:
Such conduct Is disaprrovcd and must cease"
through senator Blair, thQtithe despatch was
| sent. but tho despatch which it appears from
the correspondence furnished by the State De-
| partnent was sent was very different from
| this despatch which the Secretary wrote in my
| presence and read to me-"
| Nov. 3. at which Mr.. Ciley WAS present. and
| said that he was struck by one remark made
by Mr. Blaine. The Secretary. he said. drew
have something they haven't all gotGthat is
Syde s oS S0T HohHs M SYyS YHs have ons
deal be patient and you will see, MARITIME drop
GhSSn Mnister m sS comes an s't to the S @
notice that his seat is hotter and hotter. and it
Is tho Peruvian Company that I l. disturbing
only thirty days previous to his sending 20 mo
the lsttcr Of Dec 3 in which he expressed so
Recurring to the despatch Mr., Blaine had
sent to Mr. Hurlbut relative to his supposed
connection with the Credit Industrie Mr..
BaRs he Sh Bne sad Rave @gsSn Teeeyca
reply from Mr., Hurlbut. and there is nothing
| in your charges whatever. | knew there was
nothing in it. SC, don't say anything more to me
| on that subject