New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-06-14


ing instructions 70 you OF December 6 requiring tha
Won should insist on the settlement OF the Lah1 5
You will please observe that limit my inquiries 10 nose
dispatches which have been maze Punho, y! -, ,,,,
authority. have right To 90 beyond, ana ulS yOu
will find no oflcia personal imgroprety III answering
my questions within those limits
A STATEMENT BY MR. TREsCor.
Mr. Trescots reply was follows: al beg to ac-
knowledge the receipt of your lettor in which, after ask
Ing certain auestions TO which shall more fully refer
YOU say in conclusion: You will please observe that
limit my inquiries TO those dispatches which have Deeh
made public Ivy official authority. have no r1ght 10 go
beyond and trust you VIII hnd no oC b %, ,ips
Improperly In answering quesiiob Wltn nuo'o i
While | have no right, in my opinion,
10 ps"%t oD que e1dcPs tn Sosc Whom
officially represent certainly recognize tne oullSt
prcssOns connected with those instructions or me
verbal communications which accompanied mem. 1ou
ask, first, whether found any Iei9icco ~ 3 @ ~
lions to the Credit lnGustrie OF France In YOU IN
strucons to OF December 1, 1881, Hound the ioi
~ meditation DO assured, the ability Of Peru TO
furnish the indemnity will he matter OF direct eFest.
Upon this subject We nave no t go" ,rtii
definite Instructions can now be based lte 9o Mi,i
carefully abstain from any interpretation ID ths oonac
tion you Will examine and report 10 TINS department.
promptly any plans which may be suggested .,o.,,
You never gave to me verbally any otnep nr
than contained in the foregoing paragraph ChucI
this construction, taken in connection WIN tne @
tions to General furlbut Of November 10, would nave
felt at liberty to urge upon the Government OF C the
acceptance Of any reasonable arrangement OF an5 nn
ised 10 furnish tho indemnity. provided such plan III
voved responsibility or guarantee or pr9eoGoIa.e On
/ had no discretion, and would have been
confined to prNnpt for consderltion
and decision. The negotiation never reacheG tue pom.
where any plan Tor the dens al We" nndecG the pro-
pOsa adv any plan when seemed W ecoo
payment of such indemnity would have been serious
obstacle TO the negotiation Chill did not want The III
dennity but dd want the territory. $500 -.
AS TO the Landreau claim, your instruction never a
Lad uc tn lo
United States 20 obtain before proper tribunal lif
hearing for such rights IA Landreau might be
found to possess 1 specially Instructed
in your dispatch OF December ~ to dlslbuse
mind of the Chan Government oil Inc IMPRESSION
that any other Intervention intended by the OVeI
ment Of the Unied states. As mater OF i-ct Tue
Landreau claim never IN any way presented oy me
10 the Government OF either Peru OF Cnli, nor 10
understand, 1t ever named Dy HcheFal IuIlDui-
Your Instructions gave ample discretion anu tho tit
never wnen, in my opinion It's presentation "ouIu
have been judlcious or useful
peent authority THIS question Ia inc Ch4teu Ola'c'
to-day.
ask, and inquired Of members oil the committee
whether they desired 10 AK any ,
When il came 10 air. BelnlOnts turn his reply was
Mr.. Blouni-DO you know Of any connection between
Mr.. Morton and the Credit lndustriclI T.,
until Out IN the public prints MT Morton con
duct as Minister to France Ile i was eor.."r5 81
in tho support Of the interests OF the GoNernnnn'
Mr. Iu0uul-Does the published correspondence fur
nish all that you know OF Nil Morton IN connection Win
Mr. Blinc~Yes sir. As to the correspondence Of the
firm OF Morton, Bliss and Co. with the credit Indusinc
or with any contract | never heard any thlng untI
1 was out Of Office literally know nothing ABOUT H.
MIR sUARl-z a VERY PIRsIsThNr MAN.
The chailmau-Did you have any interview or CORE
spondence with Mr. reference to tie Credit In
dusuiell
Mr.. Blaine-Mr. snaroz had many conversations
with me- because he is very persistent man.
He addressed great many communications to
he was very get answer from the Depart
ment declined give Dir. Suarez any. Ineyer wrote
To human being In reference 10 the Credit lndnstrel
except to the Minister OF the United states Neither MI.
suarcz nor Count dc Montferrand ever
S we're very ANXIOUS to set something to show
that they had been in negotiation win the Department
under my SecTetaTysnip, aud they nave not got II.
Mir Blouut-Ihe ldca was that II might be useiulln
forwarding their plans
They were frank III Wishing To have the power of the
United States behind them 20 pull the cneslnuis Out on
Be. GUM and had power IN administer
ing Government did not propose to use 1t IN that
Mr. Blount-Thcy wanted something from the Depart
to show their consequence To that extent In SoHh
Mi. Blaine-Yes; and declined to give IT, Mr.. Ran
dalls testimony goes to show that mad been IN very
ntimae communication win them, and that suddenly
turned 4 Never from the beginning to the END
waite from position which took. and which vas one
of having absolutely nothing whatever 10 60 WIN lac
! Credit lndustrc
MT Rice-Whie you were Secretary OF State did YOU
ever give the idea Mr. Randall. or anyone else, OF
tins Governments assuming protectorate Peru
| or over any 81 the South American states
| Mr.. Blarne-Oh, never always resisted the idea
always regarded 1t as perfectly wud Unexpectedly
wild. l never entertained the notion.
Mr. Rice-Did YOU make the retention OF Taraplci
by Peru absolutely essential to any favorable consdcr
ton OF peace 50 iGr as the United states saw III to con
ar Bainc-My dispatches show that thought tn
contrary. sad that the loss OF territory might have
be subnlcd TO- thinA tuat II Is matter which al
become more and more demonstrated tnat II Mr.. Tres
COTS instructions had not been Icscinded peace "o
have been made long aga between Peru and Chi--an'
| probably with IA ces-iOn OF larapdca
THE QUESTION OF INTERVENTION
Mr.. Ricc-Was any intervention 10y the United states
that was conem plated between the parties, anything
more than the exercise OF those kind Offices which ON
nation is i'll the habit of exercising toward another
MIR. Blalue-Oh no; and nothing but what the Unite,
States vail have 90 hereafter Either The United state
Government VIII now have intervene between thOs
countries or else IL will have TO permit European
Governments to do so. They will never peace
unless with the pressure Of outside power In my judg
ment they would have been at peace long ago had III
pressure OF the power OF TINS Government not oeen WIN
the very future that the United states G3yernme
| will have resume in South America that police
which, III my opinion WOuid hd'c chcCtou Pc4co
| or else 1t viii have TO back out OF It's posi-
| ton and say that that is domain whic
does not belong TO us and surrender it TO Europe
The United States Is big enough 10 dc everything eX
cept pay dog the mangcr" The United States can
not say We VIII not intervene to PUT an end t. TIN
deadly strife ana Will not permit any BODY else 10 la
matter itself or 10 permit some othc
| Power to do so. You cannot before III
| world, before your own conscience, before
| q public opinion OF mankind, put the United States II
the attitude of yng that IN this unhappy controversy
i'm south America Will not intervene ON It's own
and will not permit any other Power to interfere. ",
cannot stand that That 10 where we are todyJus on
that narrow edge where have TO settle this question
or withdraw and England TO come IN and settle 1t
| | said something when here before, about whCi
have received letters from abroad, both from English
friends ana from American friends resident III Eng and
| II WAS about the interference VI England.
| Probably the language which ! used may have Justi
fed the Interpretation that spoke of Engands inter
ferlpg as "A Government. | did not mean 10
mean that the English Cabinet Interered. But | meal
TO say that ngish influences exercised do
to say (and refer to ts printed volume to prOYel thai
the English Minister Peru, spencer st. JOnn did
that which ought to have cost him his place
hOnor-dId il against the United states That Is yeTj
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