New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-03-22
SrJpHERD'S EXAMINATION.
Continued from First Page.

Slam ss ibis mis b. manipulated. If ut all subject 70 an
pe G ;Ea, naturally surrounded II and that we
should expect the oycrament OF the Hs si,no"n so
Ear as able to shape IT, was so snapv ld man
T"a lSS Iirnera l' nTSat oarcaary and may
say Nat asSYd him this question on him IN
sss3a;thoYgh he was Minister had no right 10 go ee
hind his official ac;onor whether nc was az s,tc
Whether the SECRETARY state he'd givn him ne papers 1
"yb;n h"; .hc single inclosre in your letter know
nothing Of the facts ~ your claim an Simply rec"s
to you what AN tod'io ten on'
MR. uUGLBUr USES A VAGUE PIiRAS"'
The chair-nan-Dil nc state who told him to tell you
The witness-My recollection is thai with reference TO
the officer who instructed him h. used vague phrase
exert AZ The when he sal distinctly The freS-
dent at lcas. once aud perhaps twice dd nov receive
the imrrc.,nn nrceSnrly that these instructions had
been given him from the Presidents mouth, by any
means because The Secretary of state as nh'ars,anu.
has rg 70 'pc1s Tor me rcI"n anu c nr p twice
Ithink lie nowhere uscl the name or he office OF the
h, ;hc Government OF thc United states would do.
The chairmaG Give as nearly - You can Toe phrdSo
The witaess-It was "Tne Govcrnmcn," or The
United states" or perhaps "Tne Executive "-soine
sue" rne p ca1irmap- farta occurred ,.o,n
The wiineSs-I asked hin he wished to receive from
me 3 copy of these papers. dd not feel at liberty to
supply him with copy II these papers, haNlH2 sum
them through the Secretary o. STATE. exccp. on EiS
oaciai direction He replied very ca-eriy. wish you
TO give act. II you can do So u; once nhhHeu Nm
"YoSu' may be sure Hat YIN read them viii ne
utmos, care and attention He then drew cara Ir ,
he was Ii way home 10 prepare for SAILING Una,
he should return 10 NewYor, IN a'|M twenty 1'!s anu
nnd meanwhile ~ wished tat would send him IA iull
DO so as to give him an just what oar ii ms were
responded 10 tat tia, they were chr amtcr n;
attorney in the ordinary of business,
that II had been only few weeks N my HANDS; tnot ~
was chicken in the egg; and that conld oaly ten
in the nos, general terms what disposed to do;
hut that wouli cneelfniy ten Mn ne Sdlt ~ TGS
cercly regret it, because time is rrcci0uS Peru ouI 10
s ea 9f 1rr. sE Tor oranSo With single n
portan; remark or two. the interview closed. .,o
The chairman-Was there anything more III reference
The Winc5s-I think not lido not rococct that there
Government what course we .1sc stcd beyond what
Ihavc said II there anything else, 1t escapes INV
memory at the moment.
SHEPHERD BATS HOOK.
The chalmain--What next occurred in order OF time
between you and Mr. IIurlnut
The wness-My impression is that the next hing that
occurred was writing letters of juno 1852, to
Mr. Hurlbut The first letter was follows: OF course
we shall be glad to have yourseso far may be en-
trely propcrad your personal friends interested with
us.and will rc-cryc, S23UVDJ or tha pool sooS a!o
1ect your ajvcc Terms OF payment can sui ihd'hi-
The chairmaa-was that subject referred t, in the in
teryiew OF May 20 with General HurlDutf .,,.,
of that letter ever passed between Hurbut and my
self prio subsequent to The writing oil 1a' liter
thu Wi,i an" O hive alrrsdy remarked that was NJ
one time u resident Il think, of Nlr. Hmlbuts Con
eressional District. lived in Dnrago County Illinois,
Turlbut resided beyond fifty miles perhaps, a. Bel
videre there resident at the time when General
think The tim' when h. Was defeated for Congress
bnas The n E9a ar ms aT GeGpf h de-
feat nao become pretty inorcgsiy familiar wth the
What was proper in pnbiic office. About the
time of General Huri5uts appointment 20 go
sb,,i ind a
then ma, ter public notorieiy III those years con
sonaIIy with General IiurlAut Of the p"
ltca parry, Dnt who were personally on good terms
considered hostile 10 Lin. The inpre>so which was
strong in my mind confrlncd ~ all The advice
sought and this: Inat General IurDui did not
consider 1t imp that he AT least, while holding pup
lie Ollie shold be colCerned either directly or m
recty in cuisines; interest OF whc he might nave ih2rS
less o:icial knowledge. The opinion wnlcl
thus phrSsed a. a time by one genticm whose al
vice solSat lie sad steve wiz block !on al every
or sugs sgd - provided ,r him Yol can count on
it. II nuke. no difference what arrang .men sou make
az Washington some rg 20 be done promised
or sugges;ed Tor Ei"." took tie matter ehie'heh
under vcry cuofu c!asiler4'i9H. never had any
a aDor t"g 1w I M more or les 10 be- WinEcd a
perhaps politicians looked AT III; matter aS
business man, as the attorney for my clients
TUB NECESSARY For THE WHALE.
On uly own part uy way was clear, per-, city clear
Ipever proposed bay anybody for the service Of this
company. never supposed that 1t wouli be necessary
to buy anybody But became clearly of The opinion
that there ha gO; u b. tab for this whale IL some
form that there had got 10 BE som thing said or -uS
gucsted which should at least say General Huilblt
from set;in. hi, II absolutely AGAINST rs a The ouse
Frgsle W G'rH s ' pre se' hn Litter Wien TO
the President April ii will appear clearly 20 i"c COIN
or or It's behalf M jded Attempted to IN dale VITA
any Off ial appointment in or about tls bi..n Is; Tor
In tlat c.tp. 1 specially informed the lrchoen Tat We
had sgs stion to make a2d s,ol'd nav noae LAT
wished merely brins to his attention ihe %ci Ina.
"a a.