The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1882-04-19
THE GUANO INQUIRY.
Continuation of MIR. Shepherds s
Testimony.
The Committee Decide That He Shall
Tell All lie Knows,
Or Go to the Bar of the House
for Contumacy-Blaine Asks
to Be Heard.
"GO IN, STEPHEN 20

which Is the Advice Shipherd Charges
That Secretary Blaine Wrote on the Mar
4 gin OF his Note to Minister rHurIbut-some-
thing of asensation.
WAsHINGToN, April 13-The Shipherd
examination was resumed this morning, and
Belmont announced that he would not now
pss the question which Shipherd refused
to ans wer. In regard to the Peruvian wit
ness, he and Senator Blair may not have
had reason to be satisfied with Blaines in
suuctions to Hurlbut, but their impression
was that they had. Witness was asked to
what extent the matter of the offer of
$250,OO0, which he made to Hurlbut,
was discussed in the presence of the Secre-
tary. and replied: AT the interview of
October 15 sOmesreference was made to my
letter of June 2, and mention made of the
proposition that had been made to Hurl-
but by the Credit Industrial, and Senator
Blaine remarked: Why Hurlbut would
rather have $4,000 in hand than your offer
of $500 in stock that he would have to
pay for Some one made the suggestion
Pthat SO 600 in cash might have been offered
by the Credit Industrial, and this led to a
repetition of the text of my letter. In fact,
the, Secretary himself called for the text
and read it to him. He listened attentive
ly and quoting the phrase, so far as it may
be proper he (the Secretary said: That
is a sort of spigot;' and then laughingiy
added; We'll, that won't make much i'm
preston on Steve"
Witness admitted that the Secretary al
ways spoke with great dignity, as become his
high office; that he never committed him
self in words. When he (Shipherd) came
awav and thought over seriously The drift of
hfS Il iarar rviau l,ea olxr
foundly impressed with the belief that the
Secretary was in accord with their wishes
Witness was asked in regard to the auto
graph approval by General Grant of the
draft dispatch which he (Shipherd prepared
and expected 70 ask the Secretary to send
Hurlbnt, and replied he would produce it if
required by the Committee; 1T was among
his papers in New York, but he could not
produce it without going TO New York in
person. The matter was laid over for the
oreseqt.
Belmont-You speak in one of your letters
Df az interview with the President which
vas brought about through a letter of intro
kkction which Grant gave you. Have you
Copy OF that letter OF introduction?
Answer have.
Witness questioned the propriety of pro-
lucing it, but would, however, do seas soon
S he could obtain it.
Belmont then prOpounded several Ques-
Ons with a view to discovering who wers
he parties interested in the Peruvian Com
ANY that he (Shipherd) had alluded TO IS
riends of General Grant and the ''Execu-
i've" Witness eyaded direct answer. but
nally said, My opinion is that at that
me there were gentlemen interested VITA
s who were personal friends of Garfield
nd there were others who were friends OF
ieneral Grant and President Arthur" The
WITNESS declined TO state who these persons
we're.
Witness was then asked-Will you pro
uce list of the stockholders OF the PERU
ian Company Ansger-No, sir under no
4 circumstances.
Witness declared that Blaine was not
ware who these parties were, and taat he
imply discussed the claim upon its merits
enator Blair never had com2lete list Of
tockholders.
Witness made a long statement, which
as mainly recital of his (Shipherd's) in
ression from what was said or not said at
is several interviews with the Secretary of
tate the aggregate result of which was TO
ssure.. him (Shipherd) that the Secretary
as in sympathy with the Peruvian CGm-
any.
Referring to the conversation in which al
1sion was made to the dispatches to Hurl-
ut and in which witness had expressed the
plRion that they might have been wOrded
ifeTently, Shipherd detailed at some
ength the remarks of the Secretary, to the
b.much upon the body of dispatch. some
mes, as he did to marginal notes; that dis
(atches when published, would read one
,ay. when in reality they might mean TO the
diplomatic just the reverse. Witness contin-
ed saw the point, sometime afterward,
hen relating the conversation to 4 friend,
nd he said, "Dld the Secretary say that?''
zeplied he did, and he then exclaimed,
Nell, then, we have got him; for l saw and
~ in my hands the dispatch to Hurlbut,
pon the margin of which was pencilled, &c
ID, Steve"
Ie Secretary's change of attitude is that
bout the Sd of December he became con
nced that he could not longer remain in
le Cabinet, and fearing that what had
assed between him and Senator Blair and
lyself v Ould become public, he made up
is mind to finish me before hand, to put
pom record in the State Department let
which would indicate that he always
new Shipherd was a fraud, and that the
eruvian Company was a bubble and q
vIndle, and. therefore, | say added the
itness, with much feeling. II regard thai
tier of December 3 just as deliberate an
tempt to assassinate a mans character and
sftrOy great interest as ever was known
history"
Mr.. Belmont-Who was this friend Of
1urs who saw the marginal note: go in
ave?'
hDoNcI-ll was NDlltIl heLIy I1uTlDutj
itor of the New York World.
In conclusion, witness said with much
armth: Il regard that letter of December
By the Secretary, as just as deliberate al
tempt TO assassinate a mans character anC
strOy great interest as ever was known
history"
Shipherd's testimony this morning created
ore of a sensation than anything yet di
tlged by Shipherd during the investigation
ln answer TO question, witness said
Jothing ever came 70 me that suggested
en- that the Secretary expected TO use thil
aim personally, or in any conceivable way
promote his personal or Pecuniary inter
70 Cross-Examination of Shipherd-Ths
Dfer to Hurlbut-Blaine Desires to b.
Heard.
|WAsHISGToN, April 15.-The Shipherd exam
alton was resumed this morning. The follow
b letter was laid before the Committee:
"WAsHINGToN, April H.
70 Hon. Charles G. Williams. Chairman:
.SiR-At the convenience OF your Committee,