National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1882-04-14
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Mr.. Shiphcrd was again before the Foreign
Affairs Committee of the House yesterday, aud
was questioned by Mr.. Belmont as to what he said
" the Secretary of state in his interview of July
% to tho instructions he wanted given to Minis
ter Hurbut.
Mr.. Shipherd replied: 81 wanted the attention
of Chill and Peru called to the fact of the Hs-
sertion of the COChet claim, and that no settle
| ment should be made without having reference 10
the claim of these pIrCs-the Peruvian Com
pany,' He feared some delay and came to Wash
ingtOn 10 rcRssurc himself.
Witness was asked to what extent the matter of
the offer of s25OOOO which he made to Hurlbut was
discussed IN the presence OF the Secretary, and re-
piled: AT the interview Of October l3 some refer
cnCe was made TO my letter Of June 2, and men
ton was made ofa proposition that had been made
TO Hurlbut by the Credit IndustrIel, and Senator
Blair TemRrked 'Why, Hurlbut had rather have
$4,000 in hand than your offer of fS2j0,OOO in stock
that he would have to pay for This was the sec
ond time that this matter of The offer to Hnrbut
had been mentioned in the presence of the Secre-
tafy. Some one made a suggestion that $4,000 In
cash might have been offered by the Credit In
my letter. In fact, the Secretary himself called
for the text and read II TO- him, lie listened at
lentiyely, and quoting the phrase, 80 far 9s it
sort Of n spigot; then, laughing he added: WELL
that won't make much impression on Steye.'"
Shiphcrd promised TO bring General Grants let
ter of Introduction TO the President aS soon as he
could obtan it, although he doubted the propriely
of producing il. ,Afer he had stated his Imprcs
toward the company no was asked:
WIN you produce list of the stockholders of
the Peruvian Compnny?'
Answer.-No Sir; under no circumstances
q. Wus Senator Blair aware thNt you were asso-
ciatcd with these gentlemen when he introduced
you to the Secretary "A. Senator Blnirs knowl-
edge Of the personnel was at that tine merely nomi
Witness was asked If Secretary Blaine was
aware who those parties were, and replied: Ny
| impression Is that Mr. Blaine never asked Il qucs.
ton rs 10 the personnel OF the company. lie simply
discussed the claim upon its merits "
Witness was then asked the same queSti II In rela.
lion TO senator Blair and replied; senator Blair
never asked and lncyer gave him complete list
of those interested IN the Peruvian Company. He
knew of some of the parties interested
He then made a long statement, in which, after
stating his belief that ex.Secretary Blaine in.
tcnded,to GO. operate with him, he said; My be-
lief Is founded upon an absolute, consistent, con-
soiidaled history. No suggestion to the contrary
ever came to me As 10 his absolute good faith in
the matter, no SUGGESTION to the contrary came TO
| me from any source all through the summer. On
the 9th or 7th Of December, when his letter Of the
| 81 reached me, II fell upon me ike bolt from n
clear sky, 1t was the most absolute surprise nj my
| whole life. couldn't account for II, and ordays
! II was perfectly bcwdCrlng. fiat that time ! had
! known of The correspondence between Minister
| Hurlbut aud Secretary Blaine which had been
| passing in the meantime, ] might possibly have
| understood 1t; but At that time II had not been
published"
The chairman interrupted the witness with an
inquiry whether Shiphcrd thought the Secretary
expected to derive any personal benefit from the
claim.
Witness with emphasis)-I never for a moment
thought that Mr.. Blaine looked upon the claim In
any other light than the Secretary OF state, or
that he ever expected to make any use of II other
than officially.
"Go IN, STEVE"
Mr.. Shipherd detailed at some length the re-
mprks Of the Secretary to the effect that II good
! diplomat did not depend so much upon the body
OF the dispatch sometimes us he did to the mnTgi-
nal note; that DISPATCHES when published would
| read one way, when i'm reality they might mean
| to the diplomat just the reverse. Witness con
! unucd; saw thcpuint some time nfterward when
! relating the conversation to friend, and he said
| "Dd the Secretary say that?' ! replied that hC
did, and he then exclaimed; Wen, then, we have
got him. for ] saw and held IN my hands dis
! was pcnCiCd "GO in, Steve"
| WiWes continued: My explanation OF the See.
Tctary's change Of attitude IS that about the 81
| OF December no became convinced that he COulC
not longer remain In the Cabinet, and fearing tha
! what had unssed between him and Senator Bai
| and myself would become public, he made mp hi
mind to finish me beforehand, to put upon recort
! Ia The State Department a letter which would in.
! diCatr that he always knew shiphCrd was u tgduC
! ana that the Peruvian Company was a bubble ant
| Il swiudle, ana therefore say added the wit
ness, with much feeling, " regard that letter o
December just as deliberate mn attempt TO assass
! nate mans character and destroy a great interes
! A. ever WINS known In history
] MI BelmOnt-WhO WOs The friend of yours whit
! saw the marginal uutc " Go in, steve"
/ AnsWCr-lt was Mr.. William Henry IIurlbeTl
! editor of The New York HOud
I The committee adjourned until halt.past ten a
! m, to-day,