Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1882-11-03
PARLIAMENT.
Land Valuation in IreIand-The CIoture
Debate-Parnell's Followers with the
Lib erals.

LONDON, November 2.-In the House of
Commons this evening Mr.. TrevelyaD, Chief
Secretary for Ireland, replying to Mr..
O'Kelley, said that the issues of the New
York Irish Nation Of August 26, September
9, September 16, September 3d. October z,
October IA and October 81 had been
stopped because they contained direct in
citements to the murder Of public officials.
Mr. Gladstone said the government
thought that contributions should be de-
manded from Egypt for the expenses
of the British occupation. It would
be necessary, he said, to ask for a further
vote before winding the matter up, but he
had no reason to believe the vote would be
large.
Mr.. HealeY moved an adjournment of the
House in order to call attention TO the action
OF the sub commissioners under the land act
in interrupting tenants while giving evil
| dence.
Mr.. Thomas Dickson IibersD declared
that the Court Of Valuers produced dissatis-
faction among the tenants.
Mr.. ParneN said he believed that the ad-
! ministration OF the act would never give
satisfaction to the tenants, but it was use
less to discuss the question on a motion for
adjournment. He hoped that the necessity
for discussion was now proved, and that
an opportunity would be given for 1t at the
| present session.
Mr. Trevelyan defended the commissioners
and valuers. He said that farms were being
examined much more carefully than before.
Mr. Gladstone said he could not now un-
dertake to appoint day for the discussion.
| When the procedure debate was more ad-
vsnced be would see what he could do.
Mr.. Healv withdrew his motion to ad-
| journ, but Mr.. O'Donnell continued the de-
bate.
Sir Stafford NorthcUte asked whether the
| government could continue the occupation
of Egypt without the authority OF Parlia-
ment.
Mr.. Gladstone declared that the occupa.
( ton was the result Of the war.
The use Of the word war by Mr.. Gladstone
created general demonstration in the
| House, as he has hitherto denied that Eng
land was at war with Egypt.
The discussion on the land act valuers
having dropped the debate on the cloture
| rules was resumed.
In the House of Commons Tonight Mr..
| Gibson's amendment to the cloture rule,
| substituting a two-thirds majority for the
bare majority proposed by the government,
was rejected by vote OF 322 against 23S.
| to the cloture rule was prolonged until q
| late hour.
After speeches by Messrs Arthur Bal
| four, Labouchere, Newdegate and Chaplin,
Dir. Parnell addressed the House. BE
| thought the cloture rule would serve to in
| crease rather than diminish the friction OF
parliamentary business, and would stlmu-
late the tendency OF the House of Lords
| to throw out measures coming
from the Commons, especially when
| passed by the application of the cloture,
| but, he continued, disagreeable as 1t was,
the Irish members would go into the same
| lobby with the government. They had de-
| termined to vote against Mr.. Gibson's
| amendment, but on the further question of
| cloture or no cloture they left themselves
| Tree to act as their party might determine.
Sir Stafford Northcote followed Mr.. Pal =
nell with a speech strongly opposing the
/ new rule. He maintained that clOture in
any form was Objectionable, and expressed
| surprise that the Radicals should lend q
hand to proceedings which would assuredly
reset on themselves. He declared, in con-
cluslon, that cloture would diminish the
| confidence which existed between the mem
bers and the Speaker of the House.
The Marquis of Harrington repudiated
| the insinuatlons thar the government had
negotiated with the Irish members for their
| support. He did not believe that the rule
/ proposed would fDf1ict any injustice on the
| opposition or that the Liberals would ever
suffer from 1t when in opposition. He was
/ confident that the rule would have a
healthy tendency towards promoting the
| transaction of business and raising the
| character of the debates.
The Irish members In body voted with
| the government on Mr.. Gibson's amend
ment. Mr.. Callan explained that they did
so in obedience to the decision OF their
| party and not as supporters of a coerclve
and atrocious government. He added that
the resolution by which the party had de-
cided to go with the government in this
decision was only adopted by the casting
vote Of its Chairman.