Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1882-03-22

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ESPECIAL DISPATCHES To THE RECORD UNION
CHICAGO, March 21st.-Colonel Thomas
NJ. Nicol, in an interview with the Journal
says he had a conversation with Grant soon
after Garfield was elected, and Grant said
there were two men whom Garfield should
| ignore-Hewitt aud Rosecrans, particularly
the latter, whom Grant denounced as an IN.
grateful. pig headed man, that Garfield made.
and who deserved the adherence of the Presi-
dent for his talk during the canvass.
The Peruvian scandal-shipherd on the
Stand.
WASHINGTON, March 21st.-J. r. Ship.
| herd, before ths House Foreign Committee
| to. day. asserted that his sickness was bona
| fie, and asserted that he was truthful man.
| The Chairman assured him that the commit.
tee believed that he had not been tIihing.
Being asked for the missing letters of May
21st, 18th and the 31st, and June 4th, he
looked through the files and anncueced that
there must be some fatality. He could not
find the letter of May 2lst, but the others
were found. 1t was decided to let him obtain
the missing copy at some future time.
Shipherd stated that the letter of May
21st was addressed to the President, and, as
| he had been informed by letter from his
Secretary, J. Stanley Brown, was referred to
the State Department.
The letter of May 18th was then read 1t
was as follows:
! May 49, 1881.
| Sir: On the 21st instant l transmitted to the
President duplicates of the present Enclosures which
presume have b. en-, or will be, referred to your
| Department il close those for Minister Hurlbut,
| to be handed him in your discretion aud at the
proper time. The copies to the President we're ac-
| companied with letter explaining shall be glad
| to be summoned to Washington in due course be.
fore General Hurlbuts and General kilpatrck's in
structons are prepared. Very respectfully.
| J. Z SHIPhERD.
To Hon. JAS. G. BLAINE, Secretary of State
Shipherd was here asked in regard to the
inc.c sure alluded to in the letter, and stated
that he had not made copies of the Enclosures,
as the originals were in the State Department.
He believed the majority, if rot all of them,
were in pint. The principal Enclosure spoken
of was the prospectus of the Peruvian Com
pany.
The other Enclosures were then identified
by Shipberd as they appeared in the printed
volume of correspondence.
The letter of May 31st was then read. Ii
| was ed iressed to the President, and alluded
to the Enclosures, which were also found in
the printed correspondence, and were identi-
fed by Shipherd.
TIE letter CT june 4th was addressed to
the President and simply called his attention
to the inclosure, which was the four: zenith
page of the letter to Minister Hu.lbut before
he left for Peru.
Shepherds letter to Hurlbut, in which he
asked an interview, was then read, and Ship
herd stated that on the morning. of May Is h
| he received a telegram from Hurlbuv, the
tenor of which was: Il will be at the Fifth
Avenue Hotel Sunday and Monday. State
where an interview with you can be had. S.
| A. HURLBUT."
Shepherds letter to Hurlbut, arranging for
an interview Monday, May Both, was read.
Shipherd then stated that he met Hurlbut
about o'clock, as arranged, and after some
| interchange of courtesies, Hurlbut began the
conversation with the abrupt remark, But
| Mr.. Shipherd, your figures are enormous"
81 replied" said Shipherd, General, Tn
not responsible for the figures or facts. +"
| Huilbut then stated to me that he had been
sent 10 me to tell me tina the Pr + ident re-.
garded my case as strong in law and
equity as it could possibly be, but that
it was unfortunate that Peru should be
| in such deplorable condition. He
added that the prime condition on which
| the President would consent to act would be
that the claim should be put in such shape
that it would not cause hardship upon Peru,
| but should be amended, aud should enable
Peru to pay her indemnity and get out of her
trouble with Chile. If that could be done,
the Government would heartily indorss the
scheme. lie further said, "This claim must
not be pressed upon Peru in the Shylock
fashion" l (Shipherd) replied, eve expect
the United States to assist US in the affair,
which would command the approval Of every
fair minded man" [ asked him if the
Secretary of State had given him
ha ba had oliuJad r. H.
replied, 81 know nothing of your scheme.
l am only telling you what 1 have been in
structed to do" In speaking, he never used
the term Secretary of State, but always used
the somewhat vague term, "the Govern
ment," 1.-The President" or " the United
States" He desired as full an account in
writing OF my plans 80 I could give him, and
he would read them with grsat pleasure. He
said he expected to have advice at the ecr;ies,
momeut, and added, 81 hope you will press
your plans as rapidly as possible"
Shipherd then made statement that he
(Shipherd) never ima2ioei that il you'd b.
necessary to buy any mao, and never in
tended to DO so. He did, however, feel that
it was necessary to prevent Hurlbut from
taking position which might bs violently
opposed to the company.
Shipherd was askel, "De you think
Hurlbut could be purchased" and replied
no, most emphatically.
Chairmsn-And then you preceded to
purchase him
Answer-No, sir; simply to prevent him
from setting himself viciously and deter
minedly against US. | recognized the fact
that it would be necessary to assure him that
it would in the future result advantsgeou,ly
to himself and friends il he did not oppose us.
Chsirman-Then, if lie acted in good faith,
it was your purpose to do your part of such
an arrangement?
Answer-To that effect, yes.
Shipherd was thsn questioned in regard to
his interview with Secretary Blaiue, and re-
piled: "The interview took place at Blaine's
residence in this city. on the evening OF July
25sb. 1t lasted until a late hour, and was
resumed the next morning.
The Chairman asked, "Wiil you please
state who were present at thai interview?
Shipherd-I am met at this point by an
embarrassment. because there was present o
Senator Of the United States.
The Chairman replied. I'VE do not pro-
pose at this time to investigate as to any Sem
ator, but we are not disposed to refrain from
il quiTing into the interview because of
Senator"
Shipherd stated that the interview was ex-
c!usively between himself and the Secretary,
the Senator not being present, in any sense,
as a participator in the interview.
On being asked how this interview was
brought about, Shipherd replied that it was
owing to the kind Offices of the Senator
alluded to.
Belmont asked, "Were you summoned to
Washington by this Senator p
Shipherd again suggested that he was again
met by embarrassment, not that he had any
personal objection, but that he was epjoined
that he should be very careful in his answers
to Inquiries.
DE Longs Orders 10 Melville.
WASHINGTON, March 21s'.-Followipg is a
copy of the orders given to Engineer Melville
by Captain De Long when they separated:
UNITED STATES EXPEDITION,
CAPE EaaA, BENNETT ISLAND.
Latitude 76' 50, Longitude las IS E.,
August 5, 1881.
To Past Assistant Engineer George W. Melville,