New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-03-22

upon the validity OF c,im for sail to HIN siih
great cxplicifness We do not now submit th,t c'ni
cana" Perm admits il that tue end OF the question,
and if Peru denies it thou would be glad to Eaye aa
OF the United hsr 9 prosr 10 Tribunals to pas upon
{" After ali this had been t.o,ong ang
after there Lad been room eft Tor dnuD III l' n
"a what wanted The United Sat'S 10 60 HnI W ,
not to do At present the conversation lo.k hr 'uIn
and nolly wac abrrpily closed by thc Score AIRY re
mark that he had an eHgagoment whsh e y, t & mi
eal1 Now what Is H. r shiPh r. ta o h %s' ynT T
no nv TO peru, and Cl there must 400 b any rcC
item al made Gown tl without due recognition o. le
rishts " involved" The Landreau claim having
bocn practically adudicatcd by the Au.l!ca id
TO me IL should We accepted valid claim end pro-
vued Tor. ahougi told the secretary a. 'ho liie ma
speaking fo7 at he request of the attorneys I the
owners bccnnsc our7, larger ard prior lrtfewond
prAc irnlly oycrsaugn the La drcau cil IL seemed
10 me said thai the andrcau claim should De ucheI
odjudic'a. ana that roviIo, Iiou' nr d n h
tween Chill and Peru for the pr%pGr adndica, I 81 's
Cocnet claim rs BY Peru ana t' cnpatic8l
bay the S' tnied States pending til, con
40 that his words were IS an acho my mat you
shall get, sir, AID sla!i max II my r,l DI' 80
committee his words verbatim. , o
Charmln-I neglected 10 ask you whether anyone
else Present at that interview except SouI9c" anu
wiIncss"fhe sane Senator who was pre- ent the
the latter part ~ the interview. - Al.
Charinan- understood you to say that a, some time
during the interview this letter 10 air. ihlpuC was
again referred between You and the secretary .
l,tcr Inoryie,- one WeeLs or mouthI Later, had
number wi interviews with the secretary
Chairman How long did this interview IN Inc morn
ing continue aud u. ~ nat HJar dii IL C,Orcf o., 80.
Winess-rhc interview occupied as my rcc'iIecton
i. substantially the two hours between ~ O'CLOCK
Mr Blount-You have told us your reasons for writing
this letter Of June 10 Sir. llurl5u Was Acre any ex-
vi ncs.f do no, und rstand the drift of the question
in that connection
WHY A CERTAIN COUNSEL WAS EMPLOYED.
Mr. Blouut-Was there any ,or your employing
him other than the fact that he was an attorney or was
the fact that ne was Senator an induccment for you
to make the arrangement.
Wiiness-I am ycry glad to have the question asked.
have never sought tn, o,s,ance in any form man
uer of any m b,r iou5c q Congress- because
plo ,in a cerain Senator an attorney was frankly
u ' a., frin,i o. i,a secretary Of state Tho
fact that he was a senator mad far as know my
CONSCIOUSNESS, anJ nfHence IN the premise. ~ Az
sir HIcr-liud you been previously acquainted with
tLis Henaor
Mr. Lord-Had You any advice from counsel in prepar-
ing this letter June 20 Mr.. Hurlbu which you have
! described an artistic lelte'i .....,oo.,o,,o,
as,s ancc in regard 10 the letter. My recollection -
that consulted with gentlemen who are lawyers; put
consulted them simply with renee 10 the rae; OF sup
posed fact OF General Hurlbuts peculiar views about the
SIR Lo9'I~nid you consult your personal counsel in
reglri to the drafting of that liter
winess-I had persOn think retained at mat tine
as my counsel IN relation to these interests
| think ] acting alone ~ counsel ior my clients:
The Peruvian Company was moi orsahIeu uhll tie Isl
OF October Prior 10 that time aced simply as attorney
my personal lcuis, VINO re themselves owners Vi
these GAINS and while |e acted win reference 10
Peruvian Company taat was to be Organized there was
no such ORGANIZATION in existence. counsel was only
brou .ht in the organization Of the company:
Dir Lord-Dd consult nat counsel III reference 10
this let !er /!
Wi,ncss-No sir
Chairman-Iou say that you had subsequent inter-
views with The secretary oi state
thainn,n-SIate how many and when. and where
Witness referring memorandum book-My best
aucut interviews occurred on the dates about
T., name But did moi preserve very formal data IN
~ r t, ~ t,"naI in cryirys; or thai these may Vaiy
hours from the actual times Inc dates die
October Il, November 3, and November
Charman-Whcre
The residence OF the secretary, and my present Tcc"cc-
ton j. also that had an interview with hlm On thr even
lag prev Gus Later tue l4th at his Request. met
him al TIE state Department. The interview oi NOitn-
bar was Il very brief and occurred on me 'iah on
winch bO.h riding between here ana NtW-frfA
Chairman The Commit Ia instructed by the House
in the folio wing resolution adopted March l6, lCr2:
directed q, demand rom Jacob r. shi9hrrd New
York. copies Oi AL correspondence between h''t tld
lis possession tending to show what silu 0hcrd ul
attempted To do 20 enforce the claim OI tht i"tu'h
Company or To nducc the Oh,u states ~ Vhi"l'" MD
claim against Peru" .
am directed TO give you copy of the resolution
(nnins it the wtnc7S ana TO ask you Whrthef you
are vi. pared to comply vita tha; demand
Wi,ness-Cau you MOI take II up tomorrow.
Wirne,s-I ADMIT IA" the demand, and shall
certainly comply with Il 20 far as indc led ~ to fat
scsson-that ~ so iar as coIsidrr my scl a. p'S ~
part VIII discuss the matter with the committee at
is session making sucA suggestions as nave Deeh
mace 10 le by counsel on tac subject
Tic Committee then adjourned until tomorrow.