New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-03-24
SOUTH AMERICAN RELATIONS

WASHINGTON, March 23-The Washington Post
viii print tomorrow morning the following inter
view with Mr.. Blaine:
Eight or nine davs ago Mr.. Blaine returned from
visit to Pittsburg with a severe cold-so severe,
indeed that he has ever since been detained in his
house Post reporter called to see him yesterday
and found him at work. though not fully recovered.
The objert of the visit to get Mr. Blaine's
views on the latest phase of the Chili-Peruvian
question. Mr. Blaine said that he was not able to
give an exhaustive review of the question but that
the general result was precisely what he had
predicted when Mr. Trescots instructions were
revoked.
"What do you mean by the general result p in
quIred the reporter.
OF mean" said Mr.. Blaine, " as 7 said in January.
that Peru is to he despoied and destroyed ana that
the profits of the spOliatiOn are TO be divided be-
tween Chill and the English bondholders and specu-
lators who furnished her the money and the guns
and the iron-cl1ds that destroyed Peru"
"Is this made evident in any authentic wayf"
"Unqucstionably. 1t Is so advertised in the
Gillian newspapers by the Treasury Department OF
Chill Il has issued decree asking for bids for
1000. 600 tons of guano to be extracted from the
guano beds of Peru now in possession OF chill
Every cargo must be paid for, the advertisement
runs. in good sterling exchanGe-Englsh money,
Chill and one half 10 the English bondholders and
Chill binds herself to deposit 80 per cent of the pro-
ceeds of the guano IN the Bank of England
"Where do you get all these factsW
"They are published in the New-York papers of
Yesterday Here is full statement" said he taking
down a file of papers.
Bnt did Mr.. Trescot agree TO this ~
"Mr Trescot was forbidden 10 say one word
about it. and he was not permitted even 10 inter
pose protest"
"How forbiddenp
"How ~ said Mr.. Blaine. "Why, in explicit
terms See. here is what my successor in the state
Department said III his letter to MI 1rescot Iev0k-
ing his previous instructions"
Mr.. Blaine then read the following from the re-
Gently printed volume of ChilPeruyian DIS
patches: "'Tbe President wishes in no manner TO
dictate or make any authoritative utterance to
either Peru or Chill as to the merits of the contro-
versy existing between those republics as to what
indemnity should be asked given, as to a
change of boundaries, to the personnel of lie
Government Of Perm. The President recognizes
Peru and Chill to be Independent Republics, to
which he has no right or inclination to dictate"
"Of course" continued MI Blaine, when Mr..
Trescot was thus made pOweriess Chill and the
English bondholders had it all THEN own way, with
no one to modest make them afraid"
turned ont in the interest of the English specu-
lators," suggested the reporter.
"Cndeuiaby" said Mr.. Blaine because Mr.
Trescot under Mr.. Frelinghuysen's instructions.
has stood there as the constant witness that
the United States would not in any event
intervene If the indemnity demanded took
the last dollar Of Perus property and the last
acre of Perus territory. Mr.. Trescot specially
instructed not to say one word in protest or OPP
position.
Glow did Mr.. TIcscot come to sign this recent
prCtocol9"
81 do not understand that lie has signed any pro-
tocol The dispatches are a little confused but |
think the meaning is that Chill submitted a protO-
col containing terms of settlement tctwecn herself
and Peru, and MIR. Trescot asked whether he |
would use his good offices TO urge it upon Peru. |
As lie had been instructed to make |
no authoritative utterance the ques- |
ton, lie telegraphcd TO the State Department |
to know if his good offices should be so used. And
the Department, l judge from the published tele-
grams. declined. But you Will observe that tie re-
suit to Chill and Peru is exactly the same, whether
our good Offices in aid of the protocol should be used
or not 1t is merely a question as to whether I
would actively AID simply agree not TO hinder the
negotiations"
Does not the protocol change at all the previous
demands OF Chihl"
Il think il enarqes those demands somewhat be-
yond the indemnities asked before Mr. TrescOt ar
rived. Naturally enough, when Chill found that
the United States was not to interfere she took
ali she wanted. She added. l think,
the district of Tacna to her previous
demands, besides large strip Of territory north of
Iarapaca. As understand Chli's demands now"
added Mr.. Blaine they include, first, the absolute
annexation Of Tarapaca and large strip of terri
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nitrates and the great bulk Of the guano. Sec
md Chill holds and occupies the districts of africa
md Tacna nominallv for ten years, to be then re-
eased to Peru her payment of $20.0O0OOO,
which they leave her no more power TO pay than
{ it were $50, 600 100000 africa and Tacna may,
therefore. be considered permanently annexed.
Third, the LObOs Islands to be seized and neid by
hill, long AZ there is any guano on them. They
ave- therefore, taken the very richest districts of
'eru including all her ntrates and all her guano,
rst as they designed in the outset, only they
lot then aware as they now, that the
United States would permit it, When
hese conditions were submitted to Mr.. TrescOt,
,e was graciously told that his good Offices would
,e accepted to urge them upon Peru, but if Peru
efused accede to them then mis- good Offices must
,e considered at an end"
That can hardly be considered courteous to the |
United States" said the reporter
"Why should Chill be courteous to the United
;tatesi" replied Mr.. Blaine. Nations, like ind
,iduals, depend for their position upon their
power and will to assert it, When Uriah Heep
banked God he was tumble, Master COpperield
uOk him at his word. When Minister in
tructed to make no authoritative utterance, but
merely to be and not heard, and TO act the part
VI meekness and humility, Chill naturally con-
luded that she could the power of this great
government as she chose and thus sought to make d
'r. TrescOt aid her designs upon Peru"
" But do not quite understand how Chill came
q advertise a million tons of Peruvian guano for
ale before "A treaty concluded any