New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-06-13

WARM DEBATE IN THE sENATE--A DISPLAY OF
BAD FEELING BETWEEN MEssRs. INGALLS, AND
MORGAN
fBY TELEGRAPH TO THE TRIBUNEl
WASHINGTON June T." There is only ono ora
tor, said Senator Ingalls, to Senator Morgan to-day,
who is competent to make roply to the senator
from Alabama, and that is the engine in the base
ment which runs the ventilator" Three weeks ago
Senator Morgan brought up the Japanese 1ndem-
nifty bill, which he had reported from the Foreign
Relations Committee. and made an excel
lent speech upon it, telling the interesting
story of the first attempt to open Japan to inter-
course with the nations of Christendom, of our own
creditable part in these events and of the ques-
tionable transactions by which this Government
came into the possession of $7S5,OOO of japanese
gold without rendering equivalent.
During the debate Senator ingalls, referred TO the
influence of the japanese Minister In terms which
were thought to be severe, and sOmc Of the South
crn newspapers have since been saying that tho
Senator from Alabama would take occasion to pun
ish the Senator from Kansas for his temerity.
When the President pro tempore named the Sena-
tor from Kansas the other day to preside tempo
rarily over the Senate Senator Morgan appeared as
the foremost opponent of the proposed arrangement
and the Senate adjourned chiefly because of the OPP
position of the Senator from Alabama, without COM
fatal facility" of spccchmaking possessed by the
Senator from Alabama has served to protract the
debate unreasOnably
This afternoon, however voting began. and mo-
ton by Senator Morrill, to strike cut the provision
which requires the payment TO Japan of the ac-
crued interest, amounting to S1,2OO,0O0 one-half
more than the original sum received, was carried.
This re ult caused the Senator from Alabama to lose
heart and he proceeded with some earnestneSS to give
expression to his disappointment. Senator Plumb
made a brief reply ustifyng the course of the ma
iory and ASSERTING his belief that the greater por-
ton of the money If appropriated, would so lntc
the hands Of lobbyists. This touched upon one OF
the points over which the Senator from Alabama
mad dwelt in his several speeches at great length;
namely the honorable course of Japan in not en-
ploying lobbyists or agents of any KIND, but In
silently awaiting justice at our hands
"The Senator cannot be ignorant" rejoined Sena-
for Plumb Of the fact that lobbyists for this bill
have been for weeks"
"For years. interjected Senator Ingalls, who, ac-
cording TO IA commcn habit. was pacing the space
behind the Senator's desks, his hands clasped be-
Tor years. resumed Senator Plumb, engaged
in urging tins matter upon the attention OF tho
senate Nor that every day since this bill was IN
troduced they have been upon the no0r OK the
Senate ..,c.o.r,ou,
4" Are here now" 1ntcrccted senator ingaiIS.
And are here now, working III the Interest OF
this bill"
lir Morgan made a rejoinder as usual upon
which Senator ingalls, took the loor lie
sad the senator from Alabama had alluded
with something of aspcnty to the acuon
or the senate as indicating disposition
on the part OF the United states 10 avoid the Obga-
tions of honor and Justice lie DIDN'T think 1t rlght
that these asperso aAsloud bc passed unChallcnged
AID he sadi that III adopting nc aIneRdnen' d & tne
Senate had voted 10 pay Japan %|93,oO" more thah
Japan was entitled Ia III honor or justice or lnterna-
tIonal law. Japan had never asked Tor II and mad
never expected 1t. The claim was substantially IN
private hands. The japanese Minister had de-
scendrd from the diplomatic position
that hc ought to occupy and had 80, ,;t,, ap-
through the Diplomatic Department, but by com
munications through Senator, intended TO inilu-
ence tho action ol Senators IN regard tc returning
Mr. Morgan said "Mr President, am bound
TO say tnat statement is historically untrue
10 this senator lLrails made the rctort with
which this dispatch beEins. Senator Morgan
sought 70 b. heard, cVlnclng signs Oi excitement,
but the senator from Kansas exclaimed:
fuse to give way. | decline to be interrupt
ed" Senator Ingalls, then concluded hS
arraignuont of the japanese Minister accusing lilm
OF having sought by uuhuai meth0ds 10 nave lniS
measure passed by Congress. lie alluded 10 tle
Spanish anu French Claims COMMISSIONS ana sdld
IN in all international proceedings. involving the
payment OF money! the ptopor and universal cnan-
nel of communication was tie diplomatic Depart
i1eut Ji tne Government.
SGldlOf Morgan, III rep > 0alU HO ht'N III iN ~
fore thst LOBBYISTS were interesting themselves IN
tins matter and mad himself called upon Minister
lo,hida ana asked II tAI- was true. liz mad been
assured that it was entirely untrue ana lie De-
ucved il. Warming up and showing signs
OF suppressed anger. ne sad tnerc were senators
who couid alOrl 10 b" acquainted with lobbyists.
Il ,y.s Al matter of pride that he himself hOt
acqualuteu with them. They dld not approach
him IL hc wanted 10 60 back 20 the pages OF hts
Iory he couid show how the honorable Senator from
Kansas could afford 10 be acquainted with the
LOBBY and with lobbyists Ii stung nm to hear IL
mtinIatcd that the senate was subject To such III
Hucucc, and he had right rs member
oi tho COmimttee on Foreign hclAuOns ana
Of tine senate 10 deny the charges. lie then
proceeded to tell again the story OF Japan
wrong- concluding BY resignIug the control of the
measure whIcn nc Thought mad been SO amended as
to be - discrcdIt rather than an hohor 10 the
Nation, If 1t should pass.
s'cnator v ndOm ana Senator Hawey made I'M
pa stoned speeches in the same line, urging that 70
return the lincpal Of the deOt merely, while we
retained all tnat had earned III Interest, would be
Il burning shame to the Nation lho debate was