The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1882-10-14
THE PACIFIC
6 Ommrrelai AOOrrtlser
SATURDAY ....- OCTOBER IA. 1852.

SATURDAY ...- ...- OCTOBER IA. 1852.
THE persistence of the Gazette to main
tain certain false statements without any
substantiation OF proof is not "simply con-
temptible," but rather beneath contempt.
The following letters, published in the
Gazette Of October IL, are the only evidence
br ught forward to prove what was stated
in its issue Of September q, and repeated
in its issue Of October 4, that the Govern
ment-
Had ordered 10000 feet of lumber from
a party not a lumber dealer.
2-Were refused credit for expenses of En-
voy TO Japan.
Wen refused creiit for immigration.
Had sent a large order for piping to
Glasgow that was cOuntermanded
To s-ubstantiate all these allie cations, the
editor atkinson publishes the following
correspondence =
Gazefte Office. October 9Th. 1881.
Ny DEAR Mr.. PArY.-As there has been a com
Government or their Agent applied TO you for q
credit. when about % send oil Messrs. Macfarlaue
and kapcna ON their respective missions, 1 would
b much obliged II y"u would be kind enough to
state the Jdcfs A. Won know them. l have under
stood from what l considered good authority that
fused it.
Il have also made q statement about lumber
being ordered, not through the regular dealers,
but through All outside firm. / believe you got
your information from the same source a. / did
and II so ] should De glad if you would substantiate
what j have said on this ground.
Il believe that yOu are also acquainted with the
arrangements by which the Agent to Portugal has
had his credit given TO him. in i manner not in
Government.
BY answering these questions yor will greatly
Oblige. Yours faithfully,
AL.rAU T. ATKINSON"
EDITOR GAzErTE.-Your note Of yesterday re-
ferring to the discussion had with you by the
p. G, A. in the matter Of the recent application by
the authorities for a foreign credit is before me,
and j have to say IN answer to your first statement,
that / tCGs applied to- as a member of the firm of
Bishop x Co. b. an authorized agent of the present
Government for a credit Of $4,000 to 100000,
which was not granted.
1t would seem that our sources of information
in connection with the lumbe order are identical.
And your statement agrees materially with my
recollection Of the mattcr-that an outside firm
had an order with specifications for about 300, 900
feet Of lumber, which the Government were after
wards induced to Withdraw.
i have it from reliable authority that the credit
which the Commissioner, or his agents, may act
under will have conditions and restrictions APP
pended which were not mentioned to my knowledge
in the original applica ton.
" You are aware Mr.. Editor that l did not yOlun-
teer the information published by you, but gave
such facts in answer to your direct questions.
Yours faithfully
JOIN H. Patty.
Honolulu, October 10, 1882"
Now, to assist our readers clear under
standing of the matter, we quote from the
DAILY P. c. ADVERTISER of 5th reprinted
in the weekly ADVERTISER of the 9TH inst
the exact statement made in reference to
Mr.. Patty =
There was no difficulty whatever in obtaining
credit required for expenses of the Envoy to Japan.
1t was granted at once on being asked for. We
| may add that Mr.. Patty was not applied to for the
| money or for the credit. With about 500, 900 at
| the time in the Treasury. it is preposterous to sup
pose that there could be any dfficulty-or any ask
ing twice-fOr such a credit as was required in this
Instance"
The letter of credit applied for was for
5000, and promptly obtained as well
it might be, when there was a large amount
| of ~uneXpended revenue at the time in tn @
Treasury.
But Patty tells a story about being applet
to for Il large credit for some other matter
by, as lie alleges, "an authorized agent of
the Government Now. the Govern memt
has no authorized financial agent here to
negotiate loans except a Minister-and
only a Minister would, and could properly,
discuss such a mater in any business rela-
tion with the Government. And if Patty
discussed the subject with any agent of the
| Government authorized for some other
duty than the negotiation of loans Or
credits, he hTd M authorized appLic1ti2 n
IOhGteUer from the Government for u credit.
| Such an application would, as is invariably
done, be made in writing. No such appli-
/ cation was made to Patty, or authorized by
the Government and it is wide of the
mark for him to repeat an irresponsible
talk on the street. Patty says he refused
this party conversing with him but we
nave to say that, whatever disposition
Patty or the banking firm he represents,
may nave felt to decline the considerati OH
of a credit with some party in this instance,
they-their chief, and Patty himself-hai
no objections, some time ago, to voluntarily
request the present Ministry to allow them
to extend a credit to any amount required
to a Government agent abroad, in order to
prosecute immigration.
And Atkinson's and Paty's statements
about the alleged lumber order, and piping
order, are the same repetition of assertion rs
before, without a particle of proof. If such
order for lumber had been issued, there
would be some record of it in the depart
ment from whence issued or the indi-
viduaI to whom the order was given could
be named. But nothing is produced
nothing but assertion, " You did {! you did II"
they cry-like blata mt school boys and they
stick to a statement they cannot p:Ove.
like weak men in a false position. The
Gazette is played out for want of proof, and,
in this ma ter, is on a par of contemplate
demeanor with the newspaper frauds from
whom it quOtes-who GOULD pick up Il pri-
vate letter in the street, and pqhlisi it
without the owners sanction.
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