Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1882-04-15
TIE PERU-CHILI INVESTIGATION.
MR. BLAINE REQUESTS A FEARING.

MIR. BLAINE REQUESTS A TEARING.
sHiPHERD FURTHER cR0ss.ExAMlNED,
The committee were somewhat tariy in arriving
this morning and the investigation was not re-
| sumed until II o'clock The chairman laid before
| the committee the following communication from
ex-Secretary Blaine which was read by the clerk:
WASHINGTON, d. c., April II, 1881.
Hon. Charles g. Williams, Chairman Committee on
Foreign A6dfrs, House or Representatives
SIR:-At the convenience of your committee, I
desire to be heard In reference to the PeruChilan
matters now under investigation. Awaiting your
pleasure. l am very respectfully,
cept OF the letter leaving 1t an open question for
the present when Mr. Blaine should be heard
Mr.. BELMONT GIVES 1T UP.
Er. Belmont stated that In view of the refusal OF
the witness to answer several questions which he
(BelmonD had deemed material he did not care to
occupy any further time In the crOss-examination.
The chairman stated that it was desirable to con-
clude the examination of Mr. Shipherd to-day and
he therefore would call upon any members who
desired to put any questions to express their
sHIPHERD CRoss-ExAM1NEp BY Mr. LORD
Representative Lord took up the cross-examina-
ton of Mr.. Shipherd.
Witness stated In reply to a question sI dealt
with Mr.. Hurlbut as / would have dealt with a
recognized criminal"
Question.-Now was that by advice OF counsel?
advice OF counsel
Witness was pretty closely pressed upon this
point. and finally went into a long explanation to
the effect that in his dealings with Hurlbut he
acted wholly on the defensive, as he would against
man VINO would strike him, and in dealing with
hlm ne realized that he was a bad man and that he
must SO treat with him as to prevent him from In
turing them. He put out the letter to test Hurl-
butts moral appreciation, intending to let him
construe as he saw fit, believing that he would act
upon It and at the proper time would expect such
an interest as he believed due to him.
Mi. Lord.-Then, until you both agreed as to the
consider that you were responsible for nothing but
virtuous and honorable proposal, and he dIurl-
buLl would have nothing to expect, and you would
Witness.-That was my view in part. Witness
admitted that Governor Boutwell, was consulted in
regard to the letter after it had been sent and his
comment was 'that letter seems plain enough to
careful reader, but If had been consulted, Ship
herd, doubt II should have advised sending it,"
OBJECT OF his INTERVIEWS WITH MR. BLAINE.
Witness was asked whether the object OF his long
interview with Mr.. Blaine was to influence the in
struct1ons to Mr. Hurlbut, and replied:-At that
time my chief and controlling interest was
whether could get the Secretary's attention to
this matter. don't think had any definite idea,
but in general way hoped ii could get access
to the Secretary Imight influence the character Of
the instructions.
SENATOR BLArRs FEE.
Witness declined to state anything In regard to
the fee paid to Senator Blatr whether it was cash
or otherwise. Witness understood the Senator to
decline the fee solely because he might be called
upon in quast-1udicial capacity to pass upon the
case as a Senator.
Mr.. Lord.-We will recur to that letter OF June
I'd. What did Senator Blair mean by speaking OF
the folly OF 1t? Was it because you offered to sell
him {Hurlbup stock instead OF giving it to him3
PLAYFUL REMARKS.
Witness with some deliberatiOn). thought the
Senator's remark playful one.
Mr.. Lord-It was also playful on the part of the
Secretary, was it, when he said, That won't fetch
Answer-1 understood the Secretary to take the
same view as the Senator.
Mr.. Lord.-And you have already admitted that
you were dealing as E with recognized villain, and
upon the inadequacy of the reward you proposed
to offer. Did all three OF you consider that you
were dealing with a villain?
Witness-You are dealing In the speculative so
much that hardly follow Ule drift of your ques-
tions understood the Secretary to refer to me
and those represented when he said, ''That won't
fetch HIM" took it as purely jocose remark.
1t did not stand out In my mind In the prominent
manner in which the examiner now seems dis
posed to bring it out.
In reply, witness said: "My impression that
Hurlbut was villain was deepened as We went
on"
Mr.. Lord.-Then what did you mean, in a subse-
quent letter to Mr.. Hurlbut, by saying you would
stand by him as brother, and praising him as
Witness, with some irritation )-oh! my letters
show for themselves; they don't need any para
MT. Lord.-Tnen, whatever advantages you ex-
pected to receive from nr. Hurlbut through that
letter, you failed to obtain, did you not7
I feared he would.
M. M. Lord;-Did you on the whole fail to obtain
ADVANTAGES COmn1nV?o
Witness.-Oh! no, Sir; think received all the
aid from Mr.. Hurlbut that could expect.
In answer to further inquiry, witness said:
think my letter Of June I'd accomplished so much
that it held Mr.. Hurlbut In neutral position, and
to that extent 1t answered its purpose.
AS 10 INTEREST OF PUBLIC MEN IN THE CLAIM
In answer to Representative Wilson, the witness
said that he first became connected with this
claim in the latter part OF March, 1884, as a prac-
dcing attorney and In October, 1881. the Peruvian
company was Organized. No minister .plenipoten-
t1ary Of the United States and no member Of Con-
greSS ever owned any interest In this claim to his
knowledge. Witness declined to state whether
any Senator ever held or owned stock in the COM
pany.
SOME AMUSEMENT
ensued when Mr.. Wilson endeav0red to discover
what consideration was given Gaiatcfo Cochet for
his claim. Witness hesitated, laughed, and then
said, with serious air: ~ understood that the
consideration paid for the claim was-pausing-
eminently satisfactory to all parties concerned"
committee the names OF the two gentlemen now
in New York to whom Mr.. shipherd has alluded as
parties who were personally cOgniZant OF Mr..
Huribut's intimacy with Suarez
Witness declined to make public the names Of
these gentlemen, but would give them to the com
mittee in confidence, that they might determine
whether or not they would summon them here as
witnesses
The chairman assented. and announced the post
ponement OF the investigation until Tuesday next,
when it is expected the examination Of Nr. Ship
herd will be concluded.
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