Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1882-04-07
ANGELIC APPROVAL,
An Interview with One of the Commits
sioners Who Negotiated the Last Chinese
Treaty--Howthe Chinese VIII Take the
Veto.

AN Interview with One of the Commits
sioners Who Negotiated the Last Chinese
Treaty--Howthe Chinese VIII Take the
Veto.
DETROIT, April. 6.-The Post and Tribune OF
this city, will contain tomorrow morning the
report of an in tNview with President Angel
of the university, who was the United States
minister who negotiated the recent treaties
with China.
In regard to the bill just vetoed by the presi-
dent, Mr.. Angel said he had neither the time
or inclination to become involved in any con-
troversy on the matter, but was willing to
talk on the subject.
III see," said he, "that Com missioner
Swift says there was an understanding that
even as much as thirty years prohibition
would not be considered unreasonable.
have no recollection of any limit OF time be-
ing agreed to. When we first conferred with
the Chinese they spoke of limitations of time
and number, but afterwards said they only
intended to use that expression by way OF IL
lustratiOn, as for instance, asking what would
be the result if the Chinese were permitted to
come only in alternate years, or were prohi-
bited from coming for one, two or three
years."
They asked us what legislation congress
would enact. We said we could not
tell, but wished to make
treaty which should impose reasonable
restriction now that is the central point in
the whole matter--whether the twenty year
limit in the vetoed bill was reasonable one
or not, and that is purely matter Of opinion,
on which there can be no hopf of unanimity.
When such question is to be considered the
only way, after discussing, Is to call the roll
aad see who has most votes. Personally, l
think twenty years limit too long, aad should
have voted against it, if had an opportunity.
Probably 1 should not have liked to favor a
longer limit than five years myself, though
when 1say that l do not express my final
judgment, have not thought it over sufi-
clently to do so.
The purposes for which we were sent to
China, were in brief these. Nearly every
nation in the world has imposed more or less
stringent restrictions on the Immigration of
the Chinese. We have our right TO impose
restrictions to the greatest good. The ques
ton of Chinese immigration has been grow
ing more and more serious, In the Pacific
States particularly, and it was thought wise
to frame new treaty by which the right to
limit should be regained.''
President Angel Slid there was no question
that the general sentiment in California was
that further Chinese immigration was unde-
sirable. Such opinions were not confined to
the sand lots. The Chinese government was
willing to consent to such treaty stipulations
as should best serve the interests of their citi-
zens, whose good they sought. They recog-
nize limitation in this country and desire to
alleviate it for the good of their own people,
and he suspected that if the people in other
parts of this country were situated as those
are IN San Francisco there would be good
deal the same condition of public sentiment.
AS to how the veto would be received in
China, President Angel said there will be no
interest whatever in the subject among the
masses of the people, for they know nothing
about it. In the foreign office there will be
great interest in it. The news has probably
reached Shanghai by this time, but what the
government would have thought of the pas
sageIf the bill cannot tell. The masses Of
the people do not, suppose. know that there
is such country as America. The immigra-
ton all comes from the provinces near Canton
and from strip of country about as large as
the New England states These people were
a maritime race and became imbued with q
spirit of commerce and trade. Whether they
are imported by the six companies or whether
they learn of America from their returned
countrymen do not know.
I can hardly see how the vetoipg of the bill
can cause an increase Of immigration of the
Chinese to this country, for, as | said, people
DO not know there IS such country as
America. / suppose | could have asked a
thousand Cinnamon whom | would meet On
the streets of Shanghai whether any such
thing as Chinese immigration had been dis
cussed by them, and they would have not
known what was talking about.
'tThe chief difficulty III the whole Chinese
question, }" continued President Angel, lis the
fact that these people do not assimiiate like
Furopeans nor do thew scatter ever the cOun-
try, and if the x, 900 Cinnamon IF San Fran
cisco would move to different paris OF the
country instead of remaining there, there
would be no agitation and no difficulty. But
they are gregariOus people. In their own
country they are the same clannish race, with
most bitter feuds existing between different
villages"
President Angel said the fifth objection OF
the Chinese minister, that there was no pro-
vision in the bill for the protection OF Chinese
travelling through the United States to Cuba
and elsewhere was good one. There are
Cinnamon in some South American countries
and Cuba. The fact that practically prohibit
tory legislation has been enacted relative to
Australia without previous notice is not gen
orally known, President Angel thought.
In conclusion he gaid the question turns on
the construction put upon the word reason
able" as used in the treaty, and what is rea.
sonable is question in fact on which men
will be of different minds.
THE LABoRERs DON'T LIKE IT.
PHILADELPHIA, April 6.-The labor organ
ization are arranging for parade and mass
meeting Oh the night of April IS, to express
indignation at the action of President Arthur
in vetoing the Chinese bill. Different asso-
Citations Of the country are invited to co OPP
crate in the disapproyal of the veto.