New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-04-27
Tile PROCEEDINGS IN DETAIL.


The committee room about 10 O'clock attended by MS
young son. who attentive and highty amuS'u
listener througho the examination showing keen
appreciation aud enjoyment OF his fathers sarcaSc "
satrica answers to Mr. BclmOnts questions MI blaine
himself stood up through almost the whole Of he exam
iuation very rarely and then for few minutes only
taking his seat
Mr. Blaine began by saving:
al observed that the press reports o. my testimony
on Monday 1 made 10 include ex-senator E"'oH do
among the counsel from whom read etlcr touching
Mr. SHEPHERDS case had no letter from MI tatoh ana
submitted dht not quote MI Eaton III lha' con
pection II is lust 10 him that make this statement.
also want 10 make another statement IN connection
with some observations which submitted to the com
mItce dsproof thought OF the fact that any such
interview as Mr. sb herd narrated In his testimony had
boen held between the President and MI Hurloui re-
sultng In the sending by Mr.. Hurlbu OF an elaborate
message shpherd. had sought for and had not
then obtained. q piece OF testimony, WHICH, "l'""t"
negative in its character is OF very great consequence ID
my mind and which I beg the privilege OF narratlng
President Garfield was the habit of keeping very
correct. and may say minute, diary OF
events That had been habit which
had grown upon him from his college days. and think
that there is to-day IN the bands of Lis family tran
script Of his life every day of not every day equally
tu Int every day. probably from the time be was ad'
mitted to Williams College. Whether il is SO absolutely
continuous as that do not know but j presume 1t 49,
At all events know that during ali his Congressional
life ne kept very minute diary of personal public and
private events in his life have caused the dlary o.
President Garfield during al the period that was COW
cred by tie events testified to by Mr. shpherd TO be
searched and the that neither Mr. shpherd nor
Mr. Huribut nor the Cochet claim, nor the Peruvian
Company is alluded 70 mentioned in any way what
syer directly indirectly Nor was any OF those SUD
ecs spoken Of by him to those with whom be hsd the
most intimate and close association ous.de OF oicia
association Nor does hs Private Secretary. who was
literally At his elbow. remember any Interview what
ever OF any possible length hetween General HurIhnt
and the President do not say that General HuIlbut
did not see the President simply salute him and
goodbye 10 him think II very probable that he did
But beyond that very certain hat there was no
conversation between them whatever. regard and nf
4 could impress the committee with the knowledge
which have IN reference TO President Garieds habit
touching this diary snre the committee would re
gard with me- this testimony a. III every sense the
word conclusive on that point
81 do not know, Mr.. Chairman. that de-
sire Ia take MP the time OF the committee
In Any voluntary narrative beyond the points
which brought under review on Monday last but, as
have observed IN the Of this investigation. this
committee dixie Congressional committees usually, and
probably amos. OF necessity has gone beyond stroi
limits Of tho resolution by which IL instructed and
now beg to say that accepting that the construction
OF the committee, perfectly wiling and far more
than that desrOus that every possible question, d.
rect and indirect and collateral growing out OF ts mat
ter sppcrtaning to II In any manner whatever in
yolvinr the whole OF the south American policy under
President Garfield and under President Arthur. may be
inquired OF by this committee conscious any
question which is within the ingenuity of
dress that shall have the slightest possible hest
taton ip answering. aud If answer 1t INTEL gently
AM ready to do IT. Ii il something which, far from
desiring conceal, desire to unfold. and If this
u.ttee has any Of the spirit here submit
my self 10 it,"
The chairman-The committee experiences the embar-
rassmcnt which Mr. Blaine has suggested The commit
tee eudcavored restrain the testimony within the
letter ami sp of the oluton yet has branched OF
into collateral matters and purpose il check
lsr possible.
Mr. Blaiue-I never have known a Congressional com
mitee a. which the thing his Vccurlcd 1t
sransccndS iis jurisdiction very rapidly.
NOT ACTING AS PRESIDENT d. FACTo.
The chairman-In this connection would inquire IL
Any of the important dispatches pertaining to South
American affairs prepared during President Gar
fields sickness
MI Blaine--No. SIT. I am very much obliged to you
for asking the question. There has been nsappre-
hsnsiOu the press wide spread than HAT had
assuG cd right acting Pr,s dem de iacG plunge,
the GONerhneht unto certain poci "ie thr irehldeni
was his back and unable to direct affairs 81 far
from that the diplomatic correspondence when filly
publi.h VIII show taud thai when IS been already
published does show that there decisive action
whatever taken during the Prcsd nts ness Ia regard
TO South American aul4r nor III REGARD 10 any otner
held where the diplomacy Of the Administration was
called into acton. There wss possibly one exception
moi a grave aud important Ore thai WII be toILhc,u
ing in the publication OF hr relating Nene
zuea. These dispatches although written during tue
Presidents hmess, were ehuteiy talked over,
and TAXED over several lines between myseh
and I knew that il what / DID / was carrying
out with great eKplcnrss the views OF the Pres du
staIemcnt On June ~ 1851, the stale Dsp.rtinent
Issued circular letter to our Ministers IL Europe
the IAtorocelIuc Canal 1hat letter. beng al
dressed all the Governments OF Europe, cd no.d
way OF tue pOlcywhch was the Buiwcl Trt
That related especially - England. That IT not
In the circular letter 70 all TIC other pow.
ers as well ~ to England Bur practically 10th The
ine 10 the clay Bul Treaty blocked out
sc lar blocked out that the President aud myself had
full upon H. But that paper when the President SHOT
was Land aside and never was Withdrawn from tie pigeon
hole, uud President Arthur had been thirty Tort,
days IN the exercise OF The Presidency, ami
10 do II. / give that Illustration % very import
ant ONT, which Is also true II regard 10 the lor1vh
portaut action taken upon any material point what
o. thrr OF tno Two Presldeuts want 10 make thai
stareInent broad as aAk uate can
The chairnan-ln tnat connection. would be glad TO
have Mr. Blame pam as fully as he deems proper and
,t.ri M. ,,cfic,- f In. ~rsr,ry q, SAFE M f1r
ence the President in The preparation # ha
tons any vi our south Amercan Alnster-, uding
MI. uurlDut ana Mr IIescOL
iii. Bl4ine-T0e question Is a comprehensive and
NAV pOrriDy gave IL d comprehensive Auawrr
The clairman-l slinpy submit II - bugges.iOh TO
Mr. Blaine, 10 make such answer lac may deem
terAl
Mr. Blaine In reference 20 the preparation Of dis
patches anu OF course always 10th quote any hing
adj never wOulu quote cOLtrON eTtcd point
But the iresident the United Statcs deUc
said 10 very shortly after hau ought matter Of
diplomacy beOre the Cabinet, Mr. Lincoln directed
Ar. Seward bring al Ills foreign hin, aud
not to introduce Them 10 the Cabinet unless lac
recied requested" lie ssId, policy The Unlcd
States pecunArly and entirely Executive matter;
ana wien advice Of me entire Cabinet Is needed
for the Plesdeut ask H. and not for tho Secretary
state 70 bring ID do not That any direction
or rep ini.Ld, but a. laying down lAe policy iOA
that me forward introduced luIng lutO TIC
t1ccpt Tie request OF the PRECEDENT Al the
salle habit Of department OF state under
ali Administrations think a. have been able 10
gather t. has been not 10 load the President down by