New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-04-15
SHEPHERDS "GRIEVANCE."
WHY HE THINKS HE WAS LL-TREATED.

| OF Jacob Il. shipherd continued this morning by
the House Committee Foreign Affairs Mr.. orth' OF
Indiana occupied the chair The examination was con
ducted by Mr. Belmont, OF Now-York
Odd Senator Blair ever wrto to you on tho sugect
Of war between Chill and the United States in any oher
letter than the one read yesterday in which he speaks OF
American ships Of war as to start for South Amer
lea Al have no recollection Of any suggestion on the
subject think that that letter is unique In that re-
| spect.
| O-Do you know whether General Grant wrote let
| ter to the Peruvian Minister in Washington in when
lac said that he thought it. about time that the United
States should step ini Al have recollection OF ever
hearing OF any such letter The discussions In my hear
ing with reference to with Chill were always based
upon statements that appearedln print, and particularly
upon sueg stions made by the Chilan Minister as We
undestood That there would be between Chill ana
the United states United states should undertake
20 force its views upon contending parties nave
no recollection Of anything like serious discussion OF
| the possibility OF with Chill,
Q-You 10 not consider that tho time h yet come for
yins the reason why Mr. Blaine wrote you his letter OF
December 81 Al yielded TO the wish of the committee
Yesterday So far as 70 explain very fully, Is thought
| my theory Of the case
Out you say. shall have something say. | am
waiting for him to pursue his own course "-sometmns
10 say about what A.-About what passed between
| him and me during the summer
Mr.. Bolmont-rhat j. just what this Investigation
| for
Tho Witness suggest orc Of the reasons that
had in my mind At the time and that is tnat the letter OF
December piece Of pure hypocrisy. and that no
| body knew that better than Mr.. Blaine himself
Q.-in any II tho conferences between you ana the NJ
! torncys or friends Of the Peruvian ompany, was the
retention by President Arthur Of r. Blaine n the State
DEPARTMENT spoken likely influence the question
Of peace between Chill and Pcrul Al think 1t
| may have been casually commented upon lao not
! think it was go cously discussed.
| n To
| Grants letter Of introduction Al did.
| O.-What took place az the interview ! Al nave
some hesitation In regard the propriey OF repeating
what occurred in the interview between M sell ana tho
MI Icmont-Did It have reference all to the Peru
! Wan Company
! The vi ucss-Oh yes
Sr. Brlnont-Th,n would Ike to know what it was
The wne.s-lils This committee any authority 20 III
ye-iigatc the Peruvian Company ,-,
Mr. Belmont: Is ordered to TO so by the House.
dWhrn Taa General Grants letter Of Introduction
| written! About the middle "t Novein3er.s i %u
General Grant, VINO wrote it, or the President who re-
Q.-What was the date Of the interview A-Approx-
| imatcy the I~tn of November. .
sent dispatch General Hurbut in which he cast some
reflections on the Peruvian COmptnyf
| TIE wnr----l think not on me company re ton
G,Icr lTrioui that hc need not pay any farther at
Sir ISmont-On the 18th Of November he sent very
The Wtncs.-A re-y different one.
| va, told 20 write H.
| Sir Ecmont-I want 10 know what Il at meant taking
the dates as an indication
rhc ,i.m,ss-I mink aid remark private couyersa-
ZION on the subject Well, o. is just possible That Mr.
Blaine had some suggestion from tie White House.
| Simply knew tir Chronological facts.
Nj. belmont Tho dispatch of the 1871 describing the
Peruvian Company ~ beng composed Ol reputable
gentlemen
M Bcunont-fhe dispatch O. the nth implying on
! tLe contrary, that the Peruvian Company was
the witne.s-The implication that the Cochct claim
Mr. Bclnone~You have stated that, for diplomatic
pm poses the C0rnet claim and the Landreau claim were
The @ilnes5-Yes, temporarily for diplomatic pun
Mr. Bclmor-A postscript 10 your letter Of December
TO- 70 llr boutwell,, Gays: "SInce this Was written ana
han carefully tor criticism. Ills oniy common, was DO
not change word and y"n nave occ-oion - 20 So
we'll De to the secretary of STATE whoever he
might De- On TIE I6tn ol December Mr. Blaine wrote
hl- last dispatch 10 south America in when he says, in
eject that there hAoEd be treaty Of peace without
Inc recognition NJ the IandTelu claim DO you know
whether our ter OF December 10 10 MI Boutwell, was
Tie witlc.s-I nave no knowledge on the subject
Q-Du me ever say tha, that letter had ANY effect on
Tho Dip lea o Dec.oe i5i Ann a., a s; ''f' never
HOLDING ius STATEMENTS IL RESERVE.
Q-You haye said t.At so have something which
| yoG may say} A.-.o.nethns which LiaJ say under
| possible circumstances.
o-Dcpendlns upon Mr. Blaine, position under certain
oircumstance.l A.--le' ar think it depends pr!D-
cipally uuon him.
O. How can it depend upon hun that he il hot in
office! Aldo moi want private quarrel az here Is
one, to 90 AIN ans qanece.-lry plbNcy:
! lrtf,rl A.-lr-; but nave made response 10 the
| ie' 81 a. an Official iouer / certainly should not want
what REGARD ne real nee OF that letter II did
/ should move ONT OF the country.
In r.oy to anotutr branch Of the subject
the witness st cd ti Ac had never mad the impression
hai Ir Blaine ever expected {" nave any personal IN
t.tifl q I'd fft ID Al I~r
ofr Nor hai he ever g4there from That haG passed
b,Icen hinself and Mr Bline tnnt Mr. Ealne had the
rciuorst utcuilou a. involving thi, country with
Chill There never had been the suggestion OF such
Q.@what wa Senator Blar's meaning when be wrote
youto perfect plans a. If The American ships
mean merely this; You safe ia lying what
The United States is about to DO as II the United States
was going 10 send Jut fleet
On other words that your claim would he enforced
Ayes substantially mat i,e United states intended
to a, a foundation tor the onorc smeut Of it; never
understood, however, rom senator Bar or from any
person oonnoc ed with the Government tuat there Was
going TO be a military Grmonstratlon
| Q-What vas your Impression OF the meaning of the
| marginal note o. which yOu spoke ycstCriay-O the
"Goli-Stcphen" dispatcui
Al supposed .hat il was intended thai General Iur
hut should 90 in the that he pursuing lay
M 10, wrote n General Hurlbut thai the most rad
zeal suggestous policy had the autograph approval OF
General Grant VII goa say whether these suegcs
Mons of Motley bau mi; reference 20 wAr1 Al would
her uo uidr~t . 10 give any thing P rtalunG the
snbstance the memorandum winch General Grants
Endorsement s male because propose to produce the
original ana tn comnittcc VIII then what there is Of
| ii.
o. ask Ola to mako simple statement a to whether
II docs or refer 20 the question Or war Al
decline to -tate under the circumstances any timing about
| the merits 0f tnat paper.
Do YOU knoV whether any munitions Of war or tor
UpdOes were nom tc United states 60 Ierut A.
never ucnrd that there except through letter
! published IIIh NEw- oKA TRIBUNE from 4 core
,poGdrut down ,,rc whom understood to uc connected
| vi b the feet rnat poudcIt gave quite an account
! II vrs-, D. and sto.c- that were 20 be ont
O.-IIayo you any Indication ~ The expenditure or
money uy rlr credit ndustrie 10 iniueloe the dPio
| mae, OF tlc niltd states! Al Wish the examiner
! woil i-e 40. from answering that question could
only rt.. nav Imprc--lois and tuftrtucc-. have no
! % ID. di+ulONc che