The spirit of democracy. [volume] (Woodsfield, Ohio) 1844-1994, 1882-09-19

raise the point OF order nnder rule Xxx
that the amendments Of the Scna'e must
he first con-idered in Cummitl,e of the
Whole?
The Speaker-It would not he in Or.
der to raise that point on the conference
report. The motion of the gentleman
from Texas is to suspend all rules which
would interfere with the purpose sta ed
In the terms Of the motion.
Mr.. Warner-I understood that would
suspend the rules now, ard therefore the
point of order will not now apply. But
upon The report Of the conference COM.
mit,pn would it b" IN order t. raise that
pointp
The Speaker-It would not, because
the very object of the motion Of the
gentleman from Texas is to get clear of
that point OF order Of course should
the motion prevail, the H.use having
cleared that point Of order tut OF the
way, the hill and the amendments would
not be sul ject again to that point Of o.
der The question is upon the motion
Of the gentleman from Iryas
Mr.. Var Vnorhis-I call for a SECOND
on the motion to suspend the ru!es2
The Speaker-That is the gentleman's
right.
Tellers we're ordered; and Mr.. Reagan
and Mr.. Van Vnorhis we're appointed.
The House divided; and the tellers
reported that. there were-aycs 129,
noes 36.
SO the motion 10 suspend the rules
was seconded.
The object in raising the point OF or
der is clearly seen to be to send the bill
again to the Committee of the Whole
with a view TO having th"se Objectionable
appropria ions cut cut and the bill, ii
possible, passed without them. and at
least to compel two-thirds vote topass
it. On this proposition Gen Warner
voted against the suspension OF the ru 'es
and in favor of sending the bill tn the
Committee Of the Whole, which was q
straight vote against the bill.
Again. when the report OF the Con.
gressional Committee came back to the
House, the R. cord shows the following
Mr.. Reagan call the p' evious qnes-
tion.
Mr.. Cx-I raise the point of order
that under Rule xxx all conferei C.
rcpois are required to he accompanied
by "a detailed statement sufficiently *
plicit to inform the House what effec
such amendments or propositions vii
have npon the measures to which they
relate
y Il
Mr.. Warner-And Mr.. Speaker,
submit further that the report is not suf
ticiently explicit to enable the House L
determine whether it will agree to tn,
increm, nts that have been made in til
Senate to certain items or the deere
ments that have been made to othe
items. The very object of such a re
port to show the House explicitly tn
eff ct Of the amendments. and the amt nd
ments have not even b,en read. Tn
Senate amendments have never been rea,
in this House.
i Mr. McLane-I submit to the gentle
man from Ohi5 Mr.. Warner that if b
takes any su' b exception as tBat to III
report, he Ia bound to indca'e what par
ticular item is not explained in the re
port.
Mr.. Warner-No item is explained il
the report, even nv number.
Mr.. McLsne-Anv gentleman VIII
has the bill before him, and will refer L
it as the report is read, will find precisel
what the rule requires.
Mr. Warner-Nn member could fol
low by the bill the report as it was rcaf
The object Of the report under the rul
is TO furnish to the H use the Very infor
nation which We now require to hav,
and which this report does not furnisl
Further on:
Mr. Mills-Let IA dispose Of tho qrcs
ion.
Mr. Warner-I have risen to pa
liamentary inquiry
The Spesker-The gentlcmaa will stat
il.
Mr. Warner-Mr inquiry is, that /;
there are amendments in this bill inco
porated by the Senate. involving hur
dreds Of thousands of dollars, whic
:. we're not included in this bill 81 it W.
j reported to the House, and considere
hy the House in Committee of til
Whole, therefore these items have M
been considered by the House, in con
y mittee or otherwise. Now, | sutm
e whether 1t is not in order under Ri
y Xxx to require the consideration OF SUI
u amendments in Committee OF the VIII,
y on the State Of the Union as the ru
provides y
The Speaker-The Chair,.in respon'
to the inquiry of the gentleman fro
: Ohio. will state that every amendment
u the Senate has been considered by Il
/ House, under technical complain,
e with the rule. because they were no
). concnrred in, which was the action
II the House upon them.
e Mr. Robinson--3n support of ~h
o The Chair has stated, | will say that Il
2. same point was up on yesterday on
: question by the gentleman from Obi
when it was proposed to suspend Il
u rules and non concur In the Senate amen
d ments to this bill, and The Chair rul,
- that the point Of order must be take
IL before the bill was sent to cnnferenc,
} and that the point of order could n
l.. he made against the conference repou
81 In this case it is simple repetition
'e the same ruliag which has already be,
" had upon other bills not only at this sc
4 sion OF Congress but heretofore
Is Mr.. Warner-But made the point
g order when the bill was sent to the col
); mittee Of conference.
le After some further discussion the b
ie was pressed 10 final passage.
ie Mr.. Warner-W QUILL it be in order
n move to lay this report on the table
70 The Speaker-To vote down the /
er port is the direct way TO defea: it. T
II gentleman from Texas MI. R.agan]
H. mands the previous question
The yeas and nays were demand
he and on this vote, which was direct VI
q on the bill, Gen. Warner voted NO.
10 This is Gen Warmers record on t
IT'S River and Harbor Bill OF 1881, and
p entirely consistent with the position
20 has taken on the bill of 1882.