The Hawaiian gazette., 1882-08-02
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
SIxr1 SEVENTH DAv.
wUpNSsnAr, July s6th, Use.

NEnNssnArs JAY soth, ~.
REroErS OF SKLur coaNrrrrEs.
The Attorney General Chairman Of tho Selcc,
Comuiittes 60 whom was rcfrrrsd two bills h
authorize NATIONAL loans. one for xI0oOOOn
and Que for Ss,oOO,Oo. rcad report IA which
thu Committee recommended the indefinite pusi
ponement Of the former. and favored The latter
with few amendments which thew presented In
bill BE- considered to-day in the Committee Of The
whole. Carried.
The Attorney General also rcsd rcpott from
the Select Committee % whom ucferrrd the
several bills relating to the prohibition Of sud also
Of the sale Of spirituous liquors The COMMITTEES
recommended the adoption Of the bill introduced
by the Hon. meniber for Hamakua, and also that
the other bills be indefinitely postponed. The
committee vert in favor Of total prohibition II Il
could be enforced, but Of this they were doubtful
The Minsterof the Interior moved the adoption
Of the IMPORT.
Mr. Rice moved that il bc land on the table.
He had introduced several petitions on this sub.
iect. all Of which aplear Ia have been sighted.
Mr.. Bishop said there appeared To be deter
minatiun 10 choke of all debate ON this important
question. There never had been petitions 50
numeOusly signed. Thert had been several bills
before the Assembly on this subject the introducsr
OF one Of which. Mr.. Rice. had not had a chance
to speak. The House had u n is power 70 choke
cd all debate but he protested against such action
Things Lad raally been pushed along at such q
rate that be REALLY did not know what was the
nature Of the bill before the Assembly. Nothing
had been done contrary 20 the rules, but he must
state that u i carving the rules with high hand.
The President. Mr.. Rhodes. said he fot Il his
duty Ia refer 10 the remarks Of Mr.. Bishop, The
wurds Of the Hon. Noble imply rrhuku e. him
tthe PRESIDENT lie felt that be had acted justly
toward each member.
4 motion u make this matter the special order
Of thu day Ter Thursday was carried.
Mr. J. NJ kupUua presented petition asking
for an appropriation of ShON for and 20 the
newly formed Ayr cultural Society. Referred TO
Committee ON Commerce
The Minister Of Finance read for the first time
a bill to Indemnity the Minister Of Finance" m
the sum Of S1.I7I for expenses incurred during
the regency OF the Heir Prosqmtive, in excess Of
the amount appropriated in the Civil List
The House resolved itself into Committee Of the
Whole to consider the National Loan bill ON it,
second reading.
The Minister of Finance moved that the frst
section pass
After an explanation of the Bill BY the Attorney
General Mr.. Bishop said that the explanation was
not satisfactory The fact Is Il u giving too gen
eral power 10 the Ministry. He drew attention
70 the item for the prumotiun Of Agriculture.
raised frum $4,000 to $4,000, now s great
many things can he brought in under the head II
Agriculture. The items altogether too Large
and too indefinite IL l. not likely that this
amount will be expended. He did not believe
that many Of the large amounts in the Appropri-
alton Bill would BE- used In his opinion, more
work had been laid out in the Appropriation BIZ
than b. accomplished in two years The best
proposed 10 make the sum 100000.
Mr.. Gibson said this Assembly had already voted
more than 100000 in excess Of the revenue.
They hoped that inasmuch the Assembly had
voted salaries for Surveyor and an Auditor, that
the country would he more thoroughly explored.
and many places at present not inhabited would
be brought under cultivation They wanted a
thoroughly competent person for the improvement
of the country. They had in view the deepening of
the entrance to the harbor that the largest
Sc! ahoat can enter. He alluded to the vast works
Of the United States, the result Of Government
enterprise.
Mr. widemaun said he reioiced to learn that
money could be had for per cent, but be- knew
that he as well as others were paying per cent
They had nov been told thgt sheep stood on
their own legs. There are people in this country
who have sheep that do not stand on their own
feet
Mr. Bishop said it seemed to him there was no
effort made By the Ministry to keep down expenses
In other Legislatures. the Government took charge
and tried to keep down expenses within the income
DR.. J. Mott Smith said that this measure inter
ested the country much any other. When a
private gentleman borTows money. be first con-
siders when he shall be able topay Il back. When
this country borrovs it ought to do the same.
Such large sums have been placed in the Appru-
priaton Bill that the Government have been forced
to ak for loan. IL vas not the fRult Of the
Ministry that this loan Is nov before the Assembly
The passage Of a 100000 would BE- the death
knell of this country de favored the amend
meut Of the Hon. Mr.. Bishop.
Mr. Rhodes said that the Government ought not
to find fault With what had been said. He agreed
with DR.. Smith that the cause Of the loan
owing to the enormous proportions Of the Appro-
priatiOu Bill. he-vould support the bull a. he
considered It a necessity.
The Minister Of the Interior said there was no
necessity to go abroad for the money. II could BE-
had right outside the doors.
Mr.. Gibson stated at length his yiev Of the pro-
posed Loan.
Mr. PiIipo moved the indefinite postponerneut
of the first section, which motion was put to the
House and lost by a vote Of - 10 3.
The following sections passed and the bill was
passed 10 eugrussmeuf and ordered 20 b. read
third time on Saturday next
The HOuss adjourned nj p. m.