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THE PERUVIAN COMPANY.
Shipherd Continues His Narrative
Before the Committee.
REPORT OF HIS INTERVIEWS WITH
MIR. BLAINE.


WASHINGTON, April S.-Mr. Rice resumed
the examination of Mr.. Shipherd before the
foraion affairs COMMITTEES at 10 30 O'Clock this
morning. by asking If he had any further cor
rasnondenca or interviews with Walker blaine
snhseouent to the writing of the letter read
YESTERDAY. Witness answered that he had one
other interview with Walter Blaine at the
State Department sometime in November last,
and that Mr.. Trescott was present part of
the time. Witness here desired to know if the
exhibits which he had offered in evidence
few DAYS since (referring TO the newspaper
CHARGES AGAINST Mr.. HurIbut some years ago)
wara To he admitted in evidence as a part of
the circumstances which had influenced him
fShinherd1 in forming his opinion of Mr..
EGnrihnt
Mr. Rice renlied that so far as he was con-
cerned he could not see the pertinence to this
Investigation of reviewing any matter occurring
wars aoo. ar anv newspaper ALLEGATIONS in re.
gard 70 Them.
REPRESENTATIVES, Blount and Belmont were of
tba oninion that Mr.. Shipherd had already
been accorded sufficient latitude IN showing
how he was Influenced in writing the letter Of
June 3, to Mr. Hurlbut. A general discussion
ansned and the opinion of the committee was
unanimously expressed in opposition to the
admission OF campaign matter in the nature
of a GENERAL attack upon the character of Mr..
Hurfbut.
Witness was asked to proceed, and interpos-
ad a
which was awarded him. With much en-
phasis witness proceeded to state his views.
The object of his investigation as he under
stood #. was to make inquiry. first. as to the
missing letter: second. as to whether anv MIN
listers OF the United States have been improper
lv interested in the Peruvian COMPANY. In
recard To his own nosition. witness found him
self here in a dual capacity-as witness and
as a defendant AS he understood it. the let
ter of the Secretary of State practically
CHARGED him fShipherd) with having attempf-
ed 10 bribe a Minister of the United States.
This had arrested the attention of Congress
and had led to this investigation. He wit
nessl had been very sharply Intercepted as to
his motives in writing the letter and he DEEM
ed it dine to himself to be allowed to offer in
evidence in his own defence everything which
lad him In form tha oninion that HnriRnt was
a purchasable man,
The running discussion ensued. in which
members of the COMMITTEES on the one side and
Mr.. Shipherd on the other endeayored 10 de-
fine to their mutual satisfaction the limit of
the inquiry in the matter of any public charges
aaainst NJ. Hurlbnt which might have In
fsnenced Mr.. Shipherd in making his nronosi
ton.
Representative Blount obiected tn admitting
secondary evidence as to Mr., Hurlbut's act or
character not in any way Connected with this
transaction. If this sort of evidence is to be
admitted. evidence on the other side should
be heard also. and as MI. Hurlbut was dead
and unable to meet his accuser. it seemed to
hin, manifastlv nninst and ;mnronar ~ admit
anv snch evidence 1 'i- 'pei " ANn'''
Renresentative Rlonnt tbarefora movad IN
exclude this evidence.
fer soma discussion II was dacided tn Lot
the motion lie on the table for the nrasent
Mr. Rice suogested that IL had occurred m
him that the mode of nursuing the inonirv
might give the appearance of a nartisan in
vesfigafion. as Tins far the Renublican mann
anv complaint had been made NV anv memhar
of the com mittee. hut It had occurred to him
that II umId he fairer to allow some If tha
Democratic memberg TO take mn fhe condnct
of the investipation.
The Committee desired Mr.. Rice to continue.
Mr.. Blount remarked that fhe investigation
was beinc conducted to his sat;sfactinn The The
Chairman stated that he would cali upon one
Of the Democratic n,amhera Ia taka mn the
case as soon as Mr.. Rice had Considered the
branch of the case upon which he started
M P;oe -os,,,, al P,n;th AZ $3.50, n;,
Won anv othsr Observation-Disclosures WITH fhe
SecretaTv Of State 1Mr' Rlainel which has not
hear nr;nted9H AnswarN"T bava nona w;th
the execution of one Of Der. 10 1881 addressed
to Gov boutwell,. and intended tn he shown
the Secretary OF State. whoever it might be-,
whathar RIs;na or Northumberland ;, Tha
Letter was then mt in ayi6anca and Rad hv
the clerk. II was quite long and defanded the
writer fSbinherfIl from the Secratary,s oh aroes
against him of ATTEMPTING to bride Minister
HurIbut.
Mr.. Shipherd was asked to state what person-
al interviews he had with Sacratarv RIa;na
and replied that he held the first interview
with him on the evening of Oct. Is. and anoth-
er on the morning of Ocf. Ia
Witness then stated at some length the Gir-
cumstances which led mn to the first intarv;ew
going back to the dispatches which he (Ship.
Rard) had supposed were sent nv Secretarv
Blaine to Mr. Hurlhnt. Thesa d;snatches Wit
ness stated were read tn Senator Flair nv M
Blaine June Q. and subsennentlv Senator Riair
remarked to him. "Shipherd. If Won had writ
ten the dispatches yourself they could not have
covered the ground more nerfectlv narticnlar-
ly the cable dispatch.n Shortly alter that Wit
ness saw Senator Blair and asked If the dis
patches had been sent. and waa assn rad that
thev had been. and AGAIN few DAYS afterwards
Senator Blair said to witness. ~ have seem the
Secretary and he saws the disoatches were sent
without an alteration Of anv kind On Ina 3
When witness received 4E9rlhnt,s letter stat.
inc that M snch lattar had haan 1870, ~
was mnch distnrbed and at once souobt SAM no
tor Blair to find ont what it meant. The Soma
for was greatly puzzled and said: "Mr. Shin
herd. this objects NV yeracitv and that of the
Secretary: I will make this INV business tn in
vestieate.'
Witness continued: "Finallv Senator blair
advised me tf, come tn Washinoton hr;ng NV
letters and correspondence. and Law the matter
before the Secretarv. and in that wav va
shonld oct at the hottom Of itn w w
Witness therefore came to WASHINGTON and
held his first intarv;ew with tba Sacratorv an
the evening of Octoher "a Witness then de-.
tailed what occnrred of this ;ntarv;aw nrafac-
inc it with the remarlr that noss;hlv he might
in some wav overrnn what was SAID or doaa at
one interview into anothar The Sacrataru an ~
neared a little mnatiaot and as he 1Sh;nSardl
fhoupht seemed tn antic;nata the ohiact IF his
visit Witpess showed him Hnr,hnt;s Letter
He took IL read II. tbrew r. down and said
"What's the matter with that Iettero,, Witness
renlied. "Mr. Secretarv' IN d;stnrhs no nv what
II does NOT cav ratbar than hu whotX doas
saw; n discnssas Parn ard bor asfa;rs Int
SAYS notbino of 1nar;,.a,, ;ntarasts W;tnoss
CONTINUED. st than ad1artaJ ~ M NJ un,ih't's
inaniar cordnct =, ,vthha,J;n% tha docu,nan+s
he "A heen reouastad 70 daiiyer 70 M Az.
zoIa M Risina ,atortod sharni, sMhat
hus;noss 10 o o,, 70 $500 1917 hov, 80 n,s
Amer;can nnin;ster9 he Would havo don n
r;oht If he had thrown oil vour ,,arars ;nto tho
fra ~, 80 'NN- f'fS-' -.-'o WV
Witness than told Mr. Rlaina what was ra-
norted Of Mr. Hnrlhnt,s ;ntimacn With Snorez.
that thew had oona ont tocathar on the staan,,
az. tn On arriv;no OF Lima Snaraz had nlacad
OF Mr. HurIhnt;s d;snosal o,,a ot 4ha pfnost
Residences in lima 18th w;na celiar arcens
tionallv well stocksd and that Mr. Hnrlbnt
vas occunviny If free of evnensa tn himself
and ali had heen fnrnishad bv the Credit Tn,
dnstriel Mr. Rlaine Laughed incradnlouslv
and said. ooh. thew don't catch Steve in that
way: if he lives In a fine house he paws
rent for it.,'
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