The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1882-04-12
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVEN-
3.,a TI0N.
The Second Days Business.
.as Tuesday, 10 am.

Quorum present.
Prayer by Chaplain w. ". Cuff.
President Joseph F. Smith and AS
sistant Secretary J. f. Wells were
sworn in by Hon. John T. Game.
The minutes of Mondays session
were read and accepted.
Mr.. Booth moved that when this
convention adjourns it be until Oc-
tober 9th, 1882, at pm.
Mr.. RaWlinS favored this motion,
as the time would enable the COM
mittees to act upon the subject mat
ter referred to them with due DELHI
Grafton, and it will be a season when
business may not be so pressing
upon some Of the members as now.
Nh. Penrose opposed the motion
as being premature. He thought
that enough work could not be done
to-day, and that the time would not
be sufficient during the one session
to prepare committees, instruct
them, etc, which would be neces-
sary, before adjournment. The
matter he had heard freely dis
cussed among the members, and the
feeling was to accomplish all that is
possible before we adjourn.
Mr.. Dalton opposed the motion.
The matter Of a convention has long
been before the people, and our con-
stituentS are enthusiastic on the
subject of state organization; he
was also opposed to putting all the
responsibility upon a committee of
fifteen or twenty, but wanted the
whole convention to take a hand in
the work. He was willing to STAY
here for two or three days. or more,
until something was done that they
were sent here to do.
The motion to name the time of
adjournment was lost.
Mr.. Caine then moved that the
standing committees be appointed.
Mr.. Rawlins moved a motion us
an amendment that committee of
fifteen he appointed to draft neces-
sary documents and present them to
the convention.
Mr.. Caine objected to the amend
ment as being out of order, it being
contrary to the subject matter OF
the motion.
Mr.. Ritter sustained the amend
ment. There have been in the
United States 200 conventions of
this kind and nature, and though
we are not bound by precedent yet
their experience would be of benefit
to us. and he thought the majority
Of the experience was in favor of
the matters being subjected to the
consideration of one committee. In
the convention of Illinois, in 1862
there were thirty-one committees
but they were eventually resolved
into one, and that appears to be the
best method of preparing the work
of the convention.
Mr.. LeGrande Young favored the
amendment, as he believed that If
Mr.. Gaines motion prevailed, the
matter would eventually have tC
come back to the one committee. II
you appoint fifteen committees
there will be fifteen separate anC
distinct ideas and methods, and
some one committee must cOnSOli-
date the subjects that will be re
ported. The motion for one com
mittee he thought would expedite
business the most.
Mr.. Caine thought thirteen several
committees could do the work the
people wanted, possibly not better
but on the principle of full repre-
scntatiOn. One committee will have
to travel over so much more ground
if they have to consider the whole
matters than if thirteen, fifteen OF
seventeen committees were ap
pointed to do the work, and eaci
had one subject to consider and re
port.
Mr.. Booth said his object in pre-
senting his motion for adjournment
was that, for one, he wished to ar
rive at the sense of the convention
on the committee question.
Mr.. Dalton would favor appoint
ing several committees, as If one
committee Of fifteen or more were
appointed, they would certainly be
appointed from all over the terri
tory, and they could not confer with
each other without great expense
He favored the motion for several
committees and staying right by t &c
work until something was done
Mr.. kawlins was still in favor ut
the one committee, as it was no eX-
rected for the seventy-twO members
to write concurrent constitutions
and submit them at the same tim e
and then for US to prepare and adopt
the matter reported by each mem
Der. 1t is necessary, OF course. thai
something be prepared by somebody
for the consideration of the cOnVen
ton and one committee Of fifteen
could do it better than thirteen com
mittees. The divisions of the mat
ter as suggested by Mr.. Game illus
tTated the necessity for consolidating
the work, for if the original motor
was adopted, the reports would b.
inconsistent and so crude that tn
convention, or committee of IF
teen will have to do the whole o
the work over again, and he wa
convinced that the one cGmmitte'
was the best and most expedition
way Of getting through the prepai
atOry work.
Mr.. u. H. Wells favored severa
committees having certain portion
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