Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1882-04-07

ESPECIAL DISPATCHES TO THE RECORD UNION
New YORK, April 6th.-The Sans Wash
ington special says: When the President
was told that his veto would cost the Repub-
lican party their control Of the Pacific States,
he is reported to have said that he had not
given party considerations q thought while
examining the bill, and that if any party
would reap any advantage from Executive
approval or disapproval OF bill which in'
wolves American principles that have been in
vogue for 100 years, it would be the party in
the long run which stood on true American
ground. The veto is understood to be the
Presidents own composition, and when he
read it to the Cabinet it was sustained by all
but two members. David Davis is reported
as being delighted with the Presidents stand,
and as saying that the President will be the
gamer.
Ex Minister Angel and the Chinese Bill.
DETROIT, April 6th.-The Post and Tr-ib-
une, of this city, will contain tomorrow
morning the report of an interview with
President Angel, of tbe University, who was
United States Minister, aud who negotiated
the recent treaties with China. In regard to
the bill lust vetoed by the President, Mr..
nation to become involved in any controversy
q the matter, but was willing to talk on the
subject. 81 see," said he, that Commissioner
Swift says there was an understanding that
even as much as thirty years prohibition
would not be considered unreasonable. /
have no recollection of any limit of time
being agreed to. When we first conferred
with the Chinese they spoke of limitations of
time and number, bus afterwards said they
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of illustration, las, for instance asking what
would be the result if the Chinese were per-
mitted to come only in alternate years, or
were prohibited from coming for one, two or
three years. They asked US, too, what legis-
lation Congress would enact. We said we
could not tell. but wished to make treaty
" hich would impose reasonable restrictions
Now that is the central point in the whole
mstter-whether the twenty-year limit in the
vetoed bill was reasonable one or not-and
that is purely matter Of opinion on which
there can be ls hope of unanimity of action.
When such a question is to be con-
sidered, the only way, after discussing it. is to
call the roll and see who have the most votes.
Personally, | think the twenty-year limit too
large and should have voted against it if |
had had an opportunity probibly. l should
not like to favor a longer limit than five years
myself, though when l say that I do not ex-
press my final judgment. L have not thous ht
it over suffi GENTLY to do so. The purposes
for which we were sent to China were in
brief these: Nearly every nation in the
world has imposed more or less stringent re-
striction on the immigration of Chinese.
We had surrendered our righS to impose
restrictions to great extent. The question
of Chinese immigration has been growing
more and more serious, in the Pacific States
particularly, and it was thought wise to frame
new treaty by which the right to limit
should be regained"
President Angel said there was no question
that the general sentiment in California con-
sidered further Chinese immigration unde.
srable. Such opinions were not confined 20
the sand lots. The Chinese Government were
willing to consent to such treaty stipulations
as should best serve the interests of their citi-
zens, whose good they sought. They recog
nized the irritation in this country, ahd de-
sired to alleviate it for the good of their own
people. He suspected that if the people of
other parts of this country were situated as
those are in San Francisco, there would be
good deal of the same condition of public
sentiment.
As to how the veto would be received in
China, President Argell said: "There will
be no interest whatever in the subject
amongst the great masses of the people, for
they know nothing about it. In the Foreign
Office there will be great interest. The news
has probably reached Shanghai by this time !;
but what the Government would have
thought of the passage of the BILL l cannot
tell The masses cannot, | suppose, know
that there is such country as America.
The immigration ali comes from provinces
near Canton. and from strip of country
about as large as the New England States.
These people were q maritime race, imbued
with aspritof commerce and travel. Whether
they are imported by the Six Companies,
SO called, or whether they learn of
America from their returned companions, l
do not know. Both theories are stoutly main
tanned l can hardly see how the vetoicg of
the bill causes an increase of immigration Of
Chinese to this country, for, as l said, the
people generally do not know there is such
country as America. suppose l could have
asked a thousand Cinnamon whom | met on
the streets of Shanghai whether any such
thing as Chinese emigration had been dis
cussed by them, and they would not have
known what was talking about. The chief
difficulty in the whole Chinese question"
continued President Angel, ''is the fact that
these people do not sssimilate like Europeans,
nor do they scatter over the country. If the
IS 900 Cinnamon in San Francisco would
move to different parts of the country, instead
of remaining there, there would be no agita-
ton and no difficulty but they are greg garious
people. In their own country they ara the
same clannish race, with most bitter feuis ex-
isting between different villages
Preside1t Augell said the fifth objection of
the Chinese Minister that there was no pro-
vision in the bill for the protection of Chinese
travelling through the United States to Cuba
and elsewhere, was good one. There are
Cinnamon in some South American countries
and Cuba. The facS that practically pro.
hibtory legislation has been enacted relative
to Chinese in Australia, without previous
notice, is not generally known.
President Angel thought in conclusion,
the whole question turns on the construction
put upon the word reasonable, as used in the
treaty, and what is reasonable is question
of fact in which men will be of different
minds.
Trio OF Bills.
WASHINGTON, April 6th.-Three Chinese
bills were introduced in the House to-day,
the first by Page, for suspension Of ten
years another by Berry, for suspension of
sixteen years, and third by Willis, for IF
teen years. The measures introduced by
Page and Berry are otherwise identical with
the vetoed bill The bill of Willis is a copy
of the bill introduced by him while the sub
jsct was before the House Committee on
Education and Labor, which provides for a
system of registration and passports some
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bill finally agreed upon.
The Ten Year Limit.
WASHINGTON, April 6th.-Senator Miller
had talk with the President this morning,
and says be now knows that a ten.yea bill
will be promptly approved.
The Democrats and the Chinese Question.
WASHINGTON. April 6tb.-At to-day's
meeting of the Senate Committee on Foreign
Relations. a disposition, amounting sppar-
emily to a settled purpose, was developed on
the part of one or two of its Democratic
members, to delay or prevent any material
modification of the terms of the vetoed Chi.
ness bill, and thus either force another veto
or wholly postpone the passage of new bills
until the next session of Congress. A simi.
liar desire was manifested in the House of
Representatives to-day by Springer and
several other Democratic members, who
promptly rose to their feet to object to Pages
introduction Of bill to suspend Chinese i'm.
mig ration, even for reference to committee.
Jubilant Johns.
New YORK, April 6sh.-The Cinnamon of
this city contemplate holding mass meeting
to celebrate the Presidents veto of the Chi
pesa hill at An earlv dsy