New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-05-09

,,t to, o,co,orli .bed that result II the state
Department In kept itself clear OF these i'''''" ~
Cochet claims Would it not have peeh uoi' ''' ~
accomplish that result II these claims hau NOS W." '
motcdl Al think mott think u "ould hnNo "''" ''
i'm uos .iilty The Goyernm nj had "arheu IVA! "'iP
from, abroad either from nations or from the 'Ftdt
IuanairieL as Understood. therefore, ue'e was '"
hone for Peru could not got this indemnity un''N
she derived i, from our own coEuiry; ana our Govern
ment Of course would not furnish It nor inior'e her
bonds nor in any way become mixed mp VITA hrr p'cu
mary affairs Therefore it must be done by citizens oi
III, United States. done al all; and oniy
through the use OF these claims as means
o. obtaining basis OF an American
organization ld It be possible 10 get the funds TO pay
the Chilli indemnity. therefore, in direct line WIN inc
policy If tue United States to prevent territorial ais
menbereni and to give p, chance. was this rccoS
milton Of any effort OF our own citizens that direction
O.-rhe Cocaej and Laudreau claims were on deposit
in that tcrrit Try wHch Chill WAS cndeavotinS 10 take
from Perul A.-rney must be collected, Il coec'eu oy
the American Company from the resources o. tle orTl
tory drsrcd by Chill.
Odd You understand that the policy Of this Govern
mont concentrated any protectorae any portion OF
Peru or all OF it A-No
Q.-Was it the purpose OF the Peruvian company
A-No. The Peruvian Company would have been IN
doubleday supremacy glad if affairs had taken TINS
course.
THE QUESTION OF AN AMERICAN PRorEcroRATE
o. Understood TO oatuFiaI Vhh' tho i''"
OF American pr0tcctorae was not suZgestc III amer
YOUR counec ION wisn The company haG celsrdf A.
Precisely. IN The early part OF November, al the inter
view Which occurred IN Washington, the matter OF
po,sble protec;orAte and the probability OF desire on
the part OF Peru was mentioned DO not know Whe her
il WAS ever m -niiOuod before Mr.. Blaine or not Very
likely it was. Yes. THINK Il was out any action ~, W.
tnat .ind mus NC ssarlly have btcn DascH upon in
Solicitation OF Peru er.cL 1t would not Dc tchu-Icu
or proGcrcd hy the Government oi the United Stales'
and Peru had expressed 40 such oe IRE HI, .,
Q.-Was that one OF the PURPOSES IN schdlhs colhls
sioncrs L, Peru tAo part OF the Peruvian company
O.NpiI not the company ineno to en-
ter into agreement win the
Government Of PerG. A:-Ncces'arily; because these
cl inns were agi .si the Governments
Q.-WeIe thee commiss oners to under'ake to bring
was iust what tLcY were to do.
O. Did they intend mat the Peruvian Government
Q-And tneu That the company wonld enter
INTO tne possession of the territory, 80 lar as
he working and sale o. the glianO Is concerned;
ACCORDING to tie Ig cement as IN the prospectus
Al would hav. been undoubtedly necessary lof slch
company TO Lave organized On large scale 10 nave
bad many employees under It's own conti0, 10 nae
been caIab OOielaeth nitrate Deus ana F't'o - vs.
AID to DE- end Themselves II necessary against any law
essno5s that nish ma sc lsSa.ied i,i - ,,o ,,od
Q-Mna il tie meaning Of TINS clause III the floposFu
a-feeIneut The company may al its discretion, main
tain such force may be necessary 10 Iocc t Vt p
cry and Interests and this Orce may ne ude detach
mcnts TIE Land AVID nay" force OF the Olnt,d
contemplated hat The company should occny TINS Ter
ritory under these conditions Al could not sa' rs TO
entitled To protection, and being una"e 10 protect u
self ght, If there were American uoops there: ana II
Government were wiling 10 assist III protecting nc
P od U fc,i Hill If tbr Goyerrcnt should
do 8, and perfectly wrous OF it not to Dc so.
Q.-DidI Understand yOu to say mat there WOhld
prob b,y he laI, INN ration Of Americans into Peru
uuucr tie stimulus of this Peruvian Company Atm
dOubt,dly thai would lave been the case
Q-lhc company, aiter benz III Occupaton would
undertake 10 pas of the Indemnity Al understood
Q-rbe first step WAS the admission Of these claims
A.-leS.
GLOW WIS that 10 be done while the courts in
ahryaurc! At. IdtIun would have arranged an
a.reciucut, subject 10 the approval of the Peruvian
Congress II agreement we're formulated III such
as 20 satisfy American capitalists ilai u VA SAFE
t. enter upon, then the company would nave been or
. I, ,,, nv wnnid hive firnisncd the necessary
means 20 tue Peruvian Government 10 carry Oh its
ordinary operations aud to have provided for its foreign
Q-Would it not have been necessary foI The United
Sd,cs 10 enter into tray Win Peru at the same
uuel Al DO occasion Tor it.
OF The company was acting Independently Of tIe
Government aud cal cron was arrested on the su--
company now III his arrest have been insult 20 tnc
oy,riin,n,l Al do not suppose thar Clih 10 Ike
e ma Ter, sac clt tn through tnc dcsrc of the
Unitcd states Ierd was iiInS chahge ana she de-
htrOytd ms CSGeroh Government accoIuhsH.
Q-Nou nnoc,atoo1 At % he neceIo r. tina, Caderon
might carry Out liz plans A-Cdleron or some
PeruyiIl government
TIE sUBJLCr OF BRITISH INTERFERENCE.
o. understood Nh Blaine 10 have Ils Ied that he
beiicv ed tAe action Chill against Pcrl have been
what he dcscrbcs putup lob on the part OF The
British Governments Did You take the same view Of the
matter A-rnat Is phrase which do not know nov
Ram ie M I~l,,i ac.nn.5 OF what aired between
you and Nj DlhHc personally, neither OF you oueht 10
Inc c.ir1la'.- lie chair hopes tina, that subject viii
not be iurO 'Ucod III the rcmote't deIse lLahg-tor
Senator BaIr-lt NOu mean 10 s"y tuat It was put
up job IN an offensive sens toward Great Bnt1lI'
would rather say H. Tor do not want 10 gel INTO
ia Great Brtaln ll-nt on. llauSLierI lbehoYe
tut and br i influence were The yer!
dlI iu, cxaC ~ tucy D. right 10 DO, ana what
would nave done If the circumstances mad been Ic-
DO you THINK it possible for American interests
America log our arm laws and naNet. ION laws
as they ar" mean no" can me diplomatic ACTON
a'c, are not necessarily 10 continue al
waXs AMI II were sct about
reversing po ley with reference CONNER
O-6ha. interests oi tnc United o1tes involved
Ia lac DOsunios Dctwecn Chill aid Pcru That called ior
ofices-wucu 81 Ouisc, might bc refused! Al am
aware th any ineryen iol further tnan sood Oh
O.In clse the, were refused, at would he our ac-
uohi Aft had been secretary ot state, sholld
have been liable 10 rcmva before tHs TINE Indl am
sure or am unable to tel you what any body else
DO you md rstand that our good Offices were 4,
cc.ed3 A.-T.ey not rendered any fur her than
the CORES ondence maicates-a Willingness TO ohcr
Q,~was notthe Minister at Lima instructed to his
Q--DO you understand That those iustruc ions wer"
Inc result the interviews o. july % AID 26t Al
.up,oscd that dispatch OF Aug with 10
these Claims would not nave sent but iOr those
APERsOSAL STATEMENT By Tif WINES.
Q-You wrote on November 20 Tat the recent man
aeInent oi the Sipherd aud Of
led YOU to apprehend ngressiOn action. Why should
there be any Congressional action TINS questions
A-Youarc gentleman. Mr. Belmont. and want to say
one or two things 10 EOu. have ia y public lie done
Wuaf could keep free from personal interest in
matters that might become tne subject oil legislation.
When wrote TIA letter had inucn reason 10 sup
uose tat the matters OF this company chs eliminate