New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-08-02
sIrRpRIsE AND INDIGNATION.
,nx rr1rnpApH TO TIE TRIBUNE.I


RIVER and Harbor bill in the House of kepreseh,a
60 This afternoon after they had listened TO the
,oodinc of the veto message is rarely SEEN nI'n'N
,bo last two days the friends of the Dill hau Po
shaded themselves and each other 'haV no
was TO be feared. and they were reany ~ wv,
with patent civility any hOrtatory message '"'
r,;don+ might choose to send to Congress pro-
vided IT was accompanied by the approval VI Wv
"hio divide" Thus it happened that me iilou'"'i'
of the House were taken by surprise ana 'hro"n
oso,oetbinr of a,panic this afternoon when Seere-
tarv Pruden entered the hall bearing "Ii''0"
,nessage and also a prod dgiOus roll oil manuscripts
an is vetoed 1t is vetoed" went round among
,bo ,ne1nbers in audible tones, and at once all H.
terest WAS centred on the pOrtentous enVeiope
which was carried to the Speakers desk. Inc
Sneaker who assured some Of the nervous 1rlenus
NJ the lob Yesterday that 1t would III al pronaDl'Y
receive the Presidents approval. wasted no lne'
He opened the document and handed IT 10 CIerA
Mcpherson. who had taken his place at The desk ol
the reading clerk and members se'Ieu ln'o '"0H
seats anxious to know the worst
The message was short one, and was listened 10
N silence except a slight ripple of laughter when
sentence was read to the effect that the more OBJ
;ectonable such bill Is the votes II can COM
mand. There was no applause when the reading
was concluded, and deep gloom sat on the cOunte-
nauces of the members of the Commerce COMMITTEE
and other advocates of the bill, as the House pre-
cpitately adjourned
Then TEMPEST of Indignation burst out. Chair
man PAGE and some other members OF the Commerce
Committee, expressed their indignation In language
more emphatic than polite.
"Wbat shall we do I" asked member OF the com
mttee of Chairman Page.
do! Wen pass that bill over the veto. Ihat
what we wall do"
Ip q
rally the friends who are absenti' asked anothrr.
mo we can do it tomorrow morning easily
enough replied the irate chairman.
"Do vou think so p asked the Speaker, who be-
trayed as much chagrin and disappointment as
anybody.
"Yes know we can" replied Mr. Page.
"Of course we can" chimed in Mr. Pound, of
Wisconsin.
at is the most indecent message any President
ever sent to Congress" said Western member who
had a very large slice of the pork y; and then he
continued " think the President had better look
over the Sundry Civil bill and veto it, because 1t
contains items for extravaganza and luXurlous
The message is an insult to Congress- exclaimed
another. The President wants us to give hun the
money to spend as he pleases. Don't he Wish he
may get ltP
Another wrathfuly exclaimed "What does the
President mean by accusing the members OF his own
party of prOfiga legIsalOnY Does he expect that
kind of talk to help the plrtyY 1t Will ruin HIM |
ard his Administration"
m0craiS Were not less angry than Repu bhcans. |
NV hat will the Democrats 30 :" asked TRIBUNE |
correspondent OF an influential member Of that |
party -,
the Veto because resent Executive dictatiOn," |
he reply.
"What business has the President to talk to us |
like schoolmasterl exclaimed a prominent |
Democrat.
Yes" assented an equally prominent Republi- |
can, and added: " Is he so stupid that he does not |
nsft &c al Of cAFfa N
Items in the Dii he throws cloud OF suspicion |
upon all the Others q
OF course many u the members rcjoced over the |
veto but they were quiet amid the tuinut OF abuse
and wrath which surrounded them As 10 whether
the Trends OF the bill Will be able to overcome the
veto, opinions about equally divided. |
II abuse aud profanity and noise. supplemented |
b. appeals TO selfish considerations can prevail the
necessary two-thirds will be obtained The bill |
passed the House SIX weeks ago by vote of ll9 to
47-a tribe more than two-thirds. After the Senate
had added nearly S2000,00O tO it, and
exposed the enOrmltes OF the measure, the |
last report OF the Conference Committee
was rejected by the House /; but that action was
reversed on the succeeding day by vote of IL TO
O., much less than twO-lhirds. 1t is hardly to be
expected, however, that this last is fairly In
dlcauye OF the strength of the bill. Notwthstand
ing the Executive disapprOval, many who voted in |
the negative then viii pe found on the other side
tomorrow, when brought 10 face the alternative of
defeating the bill outright.
The idyer and HarDor bill passed the Senate on |
the 18th OF July by vote of 3S TO %. there being
only live absentees who not paired. If all |
these wore To Oe present and vote to pass the bill
over the Veto there would still be three less than
tw0-thlrds III It's favor Ii is not probable that any
who were opposed to the bill when it passed |
have changed their minds since that time
Some signs OF indignation were seen this after
noon when IL was made known that the veto mes |
ysage contained the senerce, AS tne bill becomes
more objectionable 1t secures more support" 1t |
was at rSt thought that the President intended to
impugn the motives Of congressman who voted for |
tue blL One senator, who opposed the bill OrIgi-
hallt said If such a sentence found in the
vOf In naSs foV. tha
careful examination OF the message led to a better
Understanding however, and It Is not deemed prob
aDie that the Dli can be passed the veto the
Senate
Iti significant that the friends of the job attrib-
ute most OF their troubles 10 tue attitude OF the
Nc Sspapers.
We must prevent discussion and hurry I'D a |
vote Tomorrow before the newspapers are heard |
from said prominent R,puolca advocate of |
fnc pil 10 another IN conhdentisi tone thus even
Ing. '0
. That is So" replied the other: these cnrsed |
newspaDers nave scared Oil some OF best friends
area1y"
No doubt an effort will be made to apply the gao
RUE and take vote as early pracJicable To.
Ii the effort shall fail the President NAV
expect to hear OF some =. pretty plain
talk regarding his action 1t Is generally
conceded that if the veto is sustained, and
harbOr appropriations will be made at this session,
for there no probability that the House III It's
present temper will adopt the recommendations
contained III the veto message
THE MESSAGE.
10 the House of Representatives
Having watched with much interest the progress
OF House bill q 6,Z42 entitled An Act making APP
proprlatlOns Tor the Construction Repair and Pres
eryation OF Certain Works Rivers and Harbors
AND for Other Purposes, aud having since II re-
eeIved carefully examined t. after mature consid-
eratl0n am constrained to return 10 herewith TO
the house OF REPRESENTATIVES. in which IT origin
tted, without my signature and with GY obJecLions
10 its passage.
Many of the appropriations in the bill clearly
IVi tne general welfare and most beneficial In their
Ixn nnff oh.