New-York tribune., 1882-03-10
HOU TO HEAT CARS SAFELY.
TALKS WITT, s,'PLRINTEyDENTs HAHN, ToUcEf AND
A. D. PULLMAN.

TALKS WITH svPEGINTENDENTS HAHN TCUVhl AND
A. p. PULLMAN.
The attention of railroad men has been laielN
directed TO the question OF safely heating cars in
regard TO this subject, superintendent louceF' %
the New York Central and Hudson River RaiTo"''
said recently TO Tribune reporter: " iheTe are
many and serious objections 10 taxing steam from tue
locomotive engine Tor heating purposes In the hrS
rlace Won cannpt by any system have seen get
enough steam to heat thoroughly more than eight or
nine cars. Then there is The great drain on the
engine in consequence of so much steam being
taken from it, The steam is of course all wasted,
being blown out al the rear OF the tram
But are there not systems by which the steam Is
returnedY
sW.u. ". have been experimenting for the last
two vears with all sorts of steam heating arrange
ments We did try to return the steam to the
boiler but it vas not success. An engine wants
ali the steam she can make FOR motive power"
. Conll not the boiler be enlarged or an engine
built with "A separate boiler Tor heating purposes
{" In order 10 make the boiler large enough LOT
that the gauge of the road would have to be wld-
ened The project of having separate hoher lor
heating purposes has been adranced. 1t mas Deeh
Drpposed to place a boiler III the baggage car from
which steam could be supplied. but here another
objection comes in and II Is one which aPpnes 10
ali systems in which each car does not carry its
own heat Suppose that a long train c0nId DC
heated successfully from the englne.@nIcl - ~ C%n
another train as il frequently Is. / ne minute tHe
ear is detached from the train the source OF heat Is
lost and the consequences OF this at some Out 0!-
the-way station in the depth OF winter, can realty
he imagined. Then another difficulty. suppose the
train is heated from boiler IN tie baggage car;
Bn1nIo that car will have to be 'cnt ont OF the
train because OF a broken wheel. or one that is
likely to break; or for some olher g9Sc anu Sui-
cient reason. Then. where's your heat Z r,
"Then YOU are OF the opinion that III successful
system every car mist carry ITS own hea1 o,o 49,.
81 am indeed. Last year we spent @II'Ooo uy-
IN sVCtrluS OF heating HON lDe engine
but all to no purpose. That coroner JURY III tHee
SpuyteH Duyvll case has given people an luea 'naI
we are sleepy heads up here. but II Is not So we
have tried our best to get good ana SAFE healeI
for our cars. am testing something pow Whlch
works SO well as to make ne think that am on thc
right track at last. 1t is the method OF heating
train bv steam from small boilers fastened unuer
each car. Under the boiler is hre grate ana me
whole thing is encased IN an lrcn box. Nhch the
fire is started the boiler makes steam whch Is dis
tributed through the car in pipes placed al such an
angle that the steam, as II cohdenseS, runs na'h
lost OF course there is some loss. but we nave run
a four weeks without putting IN more wafer:
The great di;iiculty of construction; III is
very hard TO get the boiler as II Is III TWO pieces
absolutely steam tight.
"But would there not be almost as great danYeT
from ire in the of COLLISION as there would II
No: there would be no danger at all. If there
was a collision the shock wonld break the whole
thing of and 1t would drop to the ground m
What ii The ear rolled down an embankment
ait would be all right then. The fire being out
iron. think there would be no danger .
The elevated roads heat their cars very sue
cessfully by steam from The engine, do they nGt
sOh, yes. But those cars warm, and that is
all. You would find them very uncOmlOrlap!o II
YOU were ~ ride TO Boston in them. However,
should think heating from the engine might work
very we'll for short roads where the cars are not
changed and when the train is never more than
eight or nine cars long e.,
General Manager Hahn, of the elevated roads, said
on the same subject: I'VE have no difficulty
In heating our cars and | think II can be success
fully done other railroads. Of course there are
difficulties 20 be overcome. We take steam from the
locomotive engine and pass il through pipes on DOth
sides of the car blowing IL out through valve NJ
fhe rear of the train There Is a system by which
steam is taken from the boiler carried through the
train aud then returned TO the water tank IN the
tender" - ,, IT,
Company who was in Superintendent Hams
Office took up the conversation ana said that ne
believed that the heating OF long trains from the
engine or for any trains Oh trunk iines was ho
tlcable Every car must carry its own hre,D ne
continued, aud ] don't believe That Is 50 iuCh
more dangerous after all. iou have got hre any
way in the fire box of your engine. ana IL there Is
collision that will set fire to the train" . .,
= Have there been many instances OF the KIND
Yes; MANY of them. There was the AshtaDuia
accident. The fire must have come rom inc ell
Rine. The passenger cars burned last. -,
The experiment being tried by superintendent
Toucey. OF having the fire under the car was nlei
toned t" | do not believe il is worth That, sald
MI Pullman, and he snapped his fingers .,,
And s TO the lighting OF cars" continued ne; |
q the project of lighting them with candles is all
nonsense. The only fire have had in our cars |
came from candle. The safest thing Is on; II
tDguish the light The testimony at the Spuyten |
Duyyil inquest was that the lights were eXtin- |
guished by the shock Of the collision"
Another thing" added Mr.. Hahn, Is that the |
American public won't stand candles"
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