New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-11-10

| natlrailsts throughout the world. ,oo
indeed, in MI sceace to-day is the spirit in which the
work IA carried No authority Is recogihou ~ ,ro
snd and Win That connde9ce which success justly
brings question within tho domain OF solenUe ~ iV
now before us-tho antiquity Of the human race the
! origin Of man, or even the origin OF ilie ltSel
CARL SEIZURES SPEECH
Tho next speaker was Carl Schurz, who re-
spondcd to the toast " The progress of science
tends to international harmony" lie spoke as tol-
| lows:
| Mr. CHAIRMAN AND GENTLEMEN: Two things that reH
from the lips the first speakers struck me rs r.
orkaby pertinent TO our present situation One was the
proverb quoted by our worthy chairman, that "st"ueo
see not secret thng and, great orator "a ne 49,
he did not fail accompany the same with the luStl
| ton OF example, [Taughter.l The other was 'ne
| remark which former the text or the eloquent
| spcech Of MIR. Spencer, that too great continuity
| and intensity Of work will necessarily destroy our
physical constitution and very sorry to see that
I'm this respect he himself appears more Ike an Amtr
! can than an Englishman. {" Heart Heart And nope
ihat when he returns to nis country his incessant
! abors for the benefit Of humanity VIII
| sometimes be interrupted by pure relaxation, Mr.
spencer never said wiser word than this that the nj
tUae result of all our efforts 10 protect men against le
consequences OF their folly IS to people the wodg VIII
! viii not what nc said, fools -
but 1 will say with dyspepto philosophers l. for my
Leaving the discussion OF profound scientific
aud philosophical problem8 to- others who are more
reckless Of their ph'7 icai welhcing prefer 90 en- up
some pleasant personal memories which this d!stin.
gui,hcd occasion brings my mind Some nineteen years
ago. sh rtly dfier tle battle OF MISSIONARY hIuso va"
csmped with my command In winter quarters hot IaI
from Chattanooga, where we mad so lte foou or our
horses mat many or ihen ded ana 40 ltte sa na, W
could scarcely IKE our beef and bareback pdataDe,
spsncer's Social states" and during those
long winter nghis In my tent | STUDIED ,o S9eI
luxury shah 10 De grateful to our dstlh
gushed guests Appause.l became cohylh9e1 tno i
horougv dresicd tRa SP' excellent work there
would never have been any war for the diss0uil0n
dlmenai prlncip+ Of tie social States n.o the
he' OF the soldiers; namely that every man Is en5
interfere no. with the same freedom OIL any other man,
I'm supposed to respond to n sentiment touching the
the progress ~ science hIs upon the harmony
OF nations Looking at it from common sense point OF
of that progress upon different NATIONS Is
very Dsrons of one as people or UPON Grn
Given certain number OF subjects or sion between
different Naons OF dnerent lnd tS 'G aT
things upon which they agree, 1t VIII IN me
the numb. tnings upon which they disagree laugh
l.rL ana thus lead them to a good understanding and
increases he number Of subjects OF dis
cnssiOn between men and at tho same time teacIes
them Low To dispose OF those sulJec5 ny amctGe ana
peaceful reasoning, Tho less occasion there VIII DC LOT
| them 10 come TO blows
psh til ir ends merely by endshte ing the minds 0cn,
! Dat tAat tney must also influence their CON
! few but the conduct Of the many; aud in order to
! must be understood by the many. There
time whrh the Investigations o science ana ther
r. c.r@ s SrG Orders ep or select circles treat
ny them as rSstrry which could not
| Of tue muluude without profaua'ion. That
! time il happily behind us, but | suppose some
!gas p; IA goo many Of o. s iermnoov and
| ala. -af-
ce-sDlc 10 the multitude; IN TACT, " many IL ~ts
be accused OF snperdciaity lie had discussed those
problems pAilOsopnc and scientific research III
| langiagc inteli Ilblr 10 the rest OF mankind
la the Distinguished man VINO this evening hOnor5 US
we greet the foremost represen atYes OF tat
great development which has burst the bonds
! OF the closet; we greet in him the great
| apostle II the doctrine OF evolution we We ge d
suOime task vndicdtlng divine right OF science
against Intoerant authority OF traditional beuet
| tApplal-e.l
JOHN FIsKE on EVOLUTION AND RELIGION.
Nh Evarts then announced the next toast
" Evolution and Religion: that which pertects hui
| manly cannot destroy religion" to which, as 1t
WAS double toast, he said, there would be a duet
OF speakers to respond. The first Of these was
Professor John Fiske, of Cambridge. He SAID:
MIR President: The thought which you have uttered
SUGGESTS 80 many ana such fruitful themes OF discussion
thata whole evening would not suffice to enumerate
Them while To Illustrate them properly would seem to
require, m octave volume rather than talk OF SIX oreght
minutes. There are one two point, OF signal impor-
lance However, which may at least call attention Tor
IA moment 1t is matter which has long since taken
deep hold Of NY mind. and am glad to have oauce TO
~ something about it ON 80 fitting an occasion We
l. l. here this evening to do homage TO dear and
mobile teacher and friend and il Is well that we should
choose ti, time recall the various aspects OF the I'M
mortal work by which he has earned the gratitude OF
world The work which Herbert Spencer has done IN
or,lui.iag tho different departments of human lnowl-
..ftF fNst q Host com
sciences IN % and wonderful lght a. hoWlng out OF
still deeper ana wider truths cohccrh tle uhif cIse rs
whole tine great number OF profound CONGRATULATIONS
which ho has established incidentally To the pursuit OF
ANS main obiec,; tn" endics,y rich and suggestive
tniehs which he has thrown out in such profuNion by
the wa5 side all along the course OF ths Gleal P.io
nr can fail To recognize It, IL is work Of the caDrc of
that whch Aristotle and Newton dld: thou{h coming ID
this latter age It rs tar SURPRISES lhclr WORK III us vast
ness ri performance the railway surpasSes the sedan
chair or H. the telegraph SURPRISES the carrier pigeon
it il not OF thi, side OF our teachers WORK that
wish 90 speak, but OF side OF II that mas hitherto met
with less general recognition There are some people
seem To think that II Is moi enough Iat NJ spencer
should have made all these priceless CONTRIBUTIONS 10
human knowledge but actually complain OF MN Tor uot
giving complete ana exhaustive system OF tncoIogy
into the bargain What wish, therefore, to point out
il that Mr. Spcnccrs work on the Side OF religion viii be
seen be less important an ms WORK on the sue OF
SCIENCE when il religious implications snail nave
been fully and consistently mfOIde II We look AT ali
the systems or forms OF ItuslVu ol @iiGn We ,e an?
knowledge shall find that they diter IN many super
dental doctrines which they respectively lay down for
mems guidance They assert different things about
behavior the part of their followers The doctrine Of
ths Trinity which many Christians Is the most sacred
OF mysteries, f. to all Mahometans the toulest Of
hIasphemics: the Brahnns conscience would be moro
troubled II he kill COW by accident than II he
were to swear lie SIT al purse; tho Turk VINO
seq no wrong n bgamy would shrink from the sin OF
catug pork But amid all such surface differences we
find throughout all known religions two points OF sub
.tnntinI agreement. Ard. these two points of
agreement VIII be admitted by modern civilized
mon to be Of far greater importance than the nnumcr
abe differences OF detail All religions agree In these
two assertions which Of speculative aud one OF
which ethical import one Of them serves to ss-
tain and harmonic thoughts about the world We
live I'm and our place in that world the other serves To
uuhod u In our do each what can to mako
Lumau lie moro sweet full OF goodness and beauty
than We find IT, The first Of these assertions Is the prop