New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-04-27


Mr scmont-Did not your instructions both to Mr.
Urbut and 10 Mr. TrescOt carry the Idea or interVen
ton OF United states In behalf OF me claim 0, "a
Landreau beyond the point to when Mr. fish In Ills u''
| patches deemed II prudent TO gof :, ..o,,
Mr. Blane-By no means and shond he very much much
DbrSse IN nv dispatch be bases that question;
Mr. Bemonl-I will proceed in my own Order because
in nv conclusion ma Indicated in OF my questions to
Mr. 5bipherd with which Mr. Blaine found iauiI Oh MOL
| day last. That IL my only purpose. -. w.. VII
ar Blaine hope that The gentleman from west VII
cna did not nerpOse with the fantest idea OF protect
Ing witness from any ANNOYANCE gss a 70
Mr. wison-Not so much to protect the witness ID "
| Nj Blane-I have plenty Of time.
! Mr. WisOn-Bnt we have not
Mr. Blane-I shall subordinate all other engagements
The chairan-rt Is the desire of the committee to give
n vide berallty in XamnatiOn but OF course
desirable to restrict these collateral matters 10 nuch
dr Belmont-These questions about the Landreau
claim must familiar to Mr.. Wilson DID you no, IN
ON Perm the power Of the Government OF the United
States to constran Peru to recognize and adjust tha1
clsimi -
Mr. Blaine (sniling scornfulyl-I am bound to say,
Nh Belmont with all due respect that the question is rs
take vessel or an army down thtrel
Mr. Belmonr-l a,n only asking for nlormation oron-
| Mr.. Biaine-l did not did not. did not lLaugn-
teri Il you seeking for information You have inc
Sir. belmont-I am asking for the construction OF the
| Sir Mnine-Rcad that question again
| Mr.. Belmont rep,a ed the question.
Mr. Blaine-wny. OF course DID not, and again ask
| 10 .nOW
| anything that nave ever said OF written ,.
| Mr. Belmout-Wuen you instructed General Hurbut
Dromp and jusI aGneaiion OF the claim Of j. I. Lam
| areau not thai something more than an insuuo
| ton to use his good Offices unohclalyt -,
Mr. Blaine with scornful ar)-No, Sir; not IN MI
| Evarts opinion, IN mine. 49,
lar as it nae any ALL originate IN the demand OF
French citizen subj ct against Peru ,,,a. o,,
give youinore information about thg tndrea claim man
| laaf Gang eOus 1
adudcats in every respect by two departments OF
| Mir Bcimont~Did II originate in the demand OF a
| French sunjcct citizen against Perm III, -,
Mr.. Blane-Partly Of French subject ana parIy Vi
Mr. BcimOnt-The contract made with French
| Mr. Blaine-The American citizen was his partner
Mr. }eImont-fIow, far the Intervention OF the
Unifcd states Government in behalf Of such claim Is
concerned did the claim diner from The Cochet
claim which, you Informed General HurlDut on november
II, originated IL the demand OI hauVe reIuF@n do
Mr. Blaine-Whst do you mean by the word inter
Mr. Belmont-I mean what intended in your dis
Mr. Blaine-I never made use OF the word nterven-
| ton III nay dispatches about the Lahdreau cIain
| A VERY EXTRAORDINARY EXAMINATION.
! Mr.. Belmont-In your dispatch OF November ~ you
say that claim Of C0chct originated In the demand OF
a native Peruvian as against hls own Government.
want 10 know how that differs from the Landreau claim
| which originated in a French citizen against the
| Peruvian Government
| Mr.. Blaine Oaughingly)-Wen, Mr Chairman
confess this very extraordinary examination
am here as an e1oecreary OF state being examined
for making representation in accordance WIN recon,
mruuali0u 0f the committee the last Congress, and
with unanimous ye OF the House IN tne last Coh-
gress Ia words, the Honse oil Eeptcsehtal'ea,
through il Foreign Affairs Committee, asked the State
Department 10 40 certain thlis anu thc louAe i cue
session Of Congress proceeds To investigate lin ioI
Mr. Bcluont-Did the State Department say that
| there WAS any tnIg tAe L3ndrcau calml
ar Blaine-I 90 way saould have pressed 1t
so much II there wa 10 equity IA giving Lahdreau
Mr. bemont-I want to know. how did the Lagdrca9,
claim differ from the Coche clain which yon informed
General Iur but on November II originated III ,ne ne
mand OF nativeIornvan IA sganstis own eminent
while the Lan4reau claim originated III the 0ein M o.
French citizen * sinsl the PERUVIAN "oNerncn' "H''
MI Baine-rae Landreau claim originated in the right
Of 10 pa tner, was an American ctlzen.
| sir Belmont I am not speahias about me partner
was inery eniug. not intervening for tie French
man; was intervening i@r the american. Inat Is =
tnc subject ILaughtcr We asscd Peru To ascertain
construe rgns think this De entitled TO
| 4 trial" A trlal WAS al tha' we asked
| Mr. Bclmont-And you asked trial OF this claim
| while there were no courts IN Peru ~
| Mr.. Blane-No; STOP rgDt there We asked 1t AZ a
| time whom the courts had reused to hear MN. We
SAID: " You have refused This man the right OF dllo
matte inter vcntion you h2ye refused nm yo courts ~
your courts Say tnat they have no JuIaIiction II ne
has any eAts I'VE 40 not attempt TO Say "heiheI nc hs
or no bu he las . contract wlth TIC eruN-n Govern
meat, We ask the Peruvian Government 70 institute
| some tribunal before which he can be heard II me
ella
| md If 1t be decided in his iayOr, then
we shah expect that the English bondlolders and
he French claimants viii not SobDle up and carry TO
Eulope the yer, property 10 which TINS clam attaches
Iut "A ine up Ia INC newspapers ~ me hilou
tied. which House had indOrsei, and under II me
English 5ouGLoIicrs have gone oil WIN hal, a mlIIon
ton. o. gaanO, aud viii soon have S3O,OOOOOO To their
credi. the bank OF England olt 81 the very properly
to 9hch tho American claim attached II II mad Deem
! adjudoa ed We dill not 20 to lern aud gay You
| owe tns much, ana we lhaiSt upon lls oohs
| paid" We sud no thing We said: Here is An
| American citizen who appears 10 have an equitable
claim against you. We ant you III sOmo mode 20 gave
, him trail Let hi,n DO heard III your courts ii lhey
decide against hm that is end of IL II they decide
in nis favor, let aim, although AN humble citizen OF
| Government that seems AFRAID 10 :" OUT over Rg9t
fiaughter be taAen mao account and get eOme 81 the
property which lew Engls-L-en are now taking to
Mr. Belmont--You have spoken three times about the
act on committee aud of the House Ia the last
claim came The senate il not acted upon, Uut
remained IN the committee conn c,n,,;,,.o
| Mr. Belmont Was never acted upon.
| Mr.. BeInontit Was rejected
| Mr. Blaine No; 1t rejected When the gem
temun makes three assertions about point, ne ought
10 now TO make fourth one ma would touch It,
| Mr. IelmOnt--I viii make tho fOiIt one
| Mr.. Blline-wbat Is the fourth one
ar. BciuOnt-lhc resolution was concurrent resoiu-
zion OF Houses. 1t passed tue House AID did not
pass tho SENATE Inat IA oil.
| Nj Boimonl-Now, Mr. Eaton. who thoroughly be-
eves In the justice and strength OF the anlreau claim
tnen ON tue COMMITTEE ON Foreign Affairs IN the
| Mr Blaine Do YOU mean 10 say that he counsel
| when lac Was SCAatoI
Mr. belmont On, not then.
THE HOUSE AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
ar. Bainc-I you did would hand on over 10 him.
! uaughterJ lie brother Democrat Of yours, and
very honorable, able Mr Eaton said This Is an
executive matter purely. Ii Is not for Congress y and
think lac entirely right In that Nevertheless, the
opinion ~ Congress Sond naturally be matter OF great
weight with executive department. 10 not mean to
say that the state Department. by reason of the House
Of representatives. passing snch resolution, was Douhd
to do or to from doing certain act But at the
saline time / suppose that the fact Of the Committee on