New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-01-30

tioned them as his great mistakes AS TIC was "
deem affection forbore to talk with MN aoou'
them any more than common civiiity requreu a.
twas onte enough for the occasion and for my
satisfaction to learn from his lips that ne was con-
.c,ous that his course IN respect to Titan ana
the Mormon, had been unwlse and productive
of a series of fragrant political and social wrones
He forbore to characterize any OF the ac's
of TIE Mornops as crimes. but seemed 10 oe
satisfied with styling them pubhc scandals anu
wrongs He said his worst fears OF inc n''"'"
Government had been verified by time. ana thS 'io
evil an far n, he could discern was utterly reine"'
1ess except by repeating the organic act ana oo'ins
the Territory from the map. tits OF little momen.
,o mention il. but to complete the reminiscence
will add that concurred with him in thai opiulou
and that have entertained 1t ever since.
President Fillmore went to Europe soon at'er th"'
conversation became a candidate for reelection
was defeated and became recluse at ms nome l"
Buffalo met him once OF twice aftorward In 'hAt
c;tv Int had no conversation with him about anv
Dublic affairs except about raising troops to put
down the late rebellion.
On the 23th of February, 1861, Congress erected
ont of the west part of Nebraska and Kansas 'uo
north part Of New-Mexico and the east part o'
Utah the Territory of Colorado; and soon after 'he
inauguration of President Lincoln, in the following
March. was appointed Chlef-Justice OF thst ierr'
tory and went there and established Its ln"ci''''
found very few poly gamsts IN the Ierr'ory' WV
or three save-owners, with dozen or more Slaves
ond several hundred seccders or rebels But thew
concluded 10 go away to places more cohgeinA' W
them soon after the Governor and Judges mahe
them understand by executive orders and Indlcial
nroceedincs that they must obey without debate.
Less than hundred indictments, arrests and I'M
prisonments without trials and CONVICTIONS dio
the business and brought the chaos as the
LAWYERS styled it, into peaceful order ine
SECOND year of our administration nv court
was as orderly any here In New-i"rS'
never had any official relations with the people OF
the adjoining Territory of Utah. but ] was In me
vay of hearing of constant difficulties rtheie DO
tween the Executive and the Federal Judges on WI"
one hand and the Mormons on the other. Their ma
turs was frequently described to me by tho officers
of the Territory who came to advise with m'. ana
onc. by Brigham Young himself, whom vis't"d
in IN. autumn of sos at the request of President
Jjncoln Under the idea that il was their bounden
dutv even in war time. to issuo warrants h'uoS'
every day against Brigham Young Tor osamy'
because the Chicago Convention which noun
mated Lincoln in 1860 had classed poygsmy
with slavery and denounced thom as twin re-
lies of barbarisn" the Judges some OF them.
proyoked him and tho Mormons to snch
degree that Salt Lake City was convuiSed
Will. ard the officers. when the President
,ras occnpicd every moment with the war and
could not listen 10 the complaints OF oiicerS OF oan
or of any other Territory, were sending GnnS'ahf a
meals to him for instant relief to enable them 10 hgh
That twin" lust as if that twin was more
formidable and dangerous than the other. AS MT,
Iincoln felt as he wrote me. " that one war was
snonch NJ one time and that il was hest 10 bear
with the Utah twin until the southern WIN
was disposed Of he sont me conni'uual Iel'rt
law the hand of an army payInaster, asking me I" 20
over 10 Utah and nut stop to the trouble there IT..
couid. Secretary Seward bad told him that Young
once lived here i'll Auburn. that know him person
ally and that he thought it likely Young would re-
ceiye me with favor than ne womb an ht'er
.trangnr acted upon the hint. and dropped in npon
Sirs IN the character of a former friend. sent
hun my card after my arrival at salt Lake CitN ana
lie responded to the courtesy by calling upon ns anu
inviting me 20 dinner. | accepted hIS riVitation'
dined with him and rode with HIN several tlincS
about the city, and once ont TO Camp FLOYD wheI"
United States troops were IN garrison .ccmr 10 Tie said he
was glad TO have them there to purchase and pay,
As they did for his provisions and provehucr. hey
made him a home market for all they cOnsnlneli
stoned there two days. and long enough to
gather from hun his reasons for p"N1anE
iD Oa he ordinance in his so-called Endowment
House so securely that the Federal courts WIN
inres conld moi reach IT, In the course of orr con,
yarsat;cu vsnturea TO ask himifhe not afraid
of being broken uD by Congress IN the
manncr they were broken up at NanI9o
nv the Legislature of Illinois He very promptly
yeplied thai no was not. and gave his reason why
He said that 10 GentileS were displaced oy me re-
peal of the act inCOTpoTallHg Inc wy Oh N'',"o'
INT that ali the Federal officers of Utah were Cen
tiles and vould be- displaced and deprived OF their
salaries and living by repe. OF the organic act Oh
the Territory. lie admitted the power 81 Congress
10 do so or to divide the territory 10 some
other Territory State, and that such a measure
Noud tend to weaken them and impair their Olilty
10 proseytc and recruit their ranks IN Europe o1I
N. stoutly asserted his confidence that II would
never be done at least while he lived aud retained
his reason | found the judges to be quite as per
sstrnt in their lIue of policy as Brigham Young was
in his aud reported the facts TO Ireslacht Lincoln.
IL is sufficient TO here that he stopped me val
against that "twlu" until the other was Subdued.
Brigham Young was remarkably ingenious and
faI.soeinu man in everything relating 10 MS means
of resisting the Federal courts. lie UNDERSTOOD INC
mature and rules of evidence and the contingencies
of a verdict where twelve jurors are required to
agreo as well as the most experienced nlSl PiIus
LAWYER in the land. AS long as his health hed out
he defeated all attempts TO convict nm; W neu ms
health failed he succuinhed NIUE anu nI9u' DO
lieye in the nominal custody of the marshal
conviction of another Mormon has been had
since his death: but the Supreme Court at wash,
ington has reversed the Judgment Tor insufficient
evidence. The situation Is no better thaii III was
twesty years ago AS the lawyers say, polygamy Is
IL st2tu quo. -,
II seexs TO me- therefore that Congress is forced
20 the alternative OF leaving the evil TO the elncacy
of time and further anti Mormon forces there In the
shape of railways and Protestant schools and
churchS or of repeating the organic act annexlng
the domain TO the adjacent States and Territories,
and of declaring Olygamists to be CRIMINALS and
incapable Of voting and holding effice-the very
remedy suggested by the President VINO lauEcheu
the evil and the only one which Brigham Young
IN his lifetime feared. 90 BENJAMIN l. HALL
Auburn, ". T., Jan. %, lSe2.
A SERMON BY THE REV. DIR. NEWMAN.
The Rev. DR.. J. p. Ne man preached last
Madison-ave and Forty -ffthst THE Mormon CUES
.io, The church was crowded before the services