Wheeling register. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1878-1935, 1882-04-21
BOTTOM FACTS.
The Editor OF To New York
"Morid" on the Stand.
What Ne Knows About Shipherd-Biase .
Political Flint - How He Favored the
Scheme-why He chansedfront
on the Question.
eRAsrsleTIsRTo MINISTER GILMORE


Hurlbut appeared before the Foreign Az
fairs Committee this morning. The Clerk
read from Shepherds testimony his descrip-
ton OF the interview between himself
(Shipherd) and Hurlbut, in which the latter
is accredited with saying he had seen and
held in his hands dispatch from Blaine 10
Minister Hurlbut, on which vas written Q
marginal note, .'Go in, Steve" or '6o Il.
Steve"
The witness said the whole narrative q
this conversation with him Was an absolute
and profound Misrepresentation OF facts.
He sought an interview with me, and
stated his case, and gave me long nara.
tive OF his relations with Blaine, and com
planned bitterly that he had not been we'll
treated by the Secretary. There is no truth
in his statement that told him had seea
such dispatch with marginal note. The
story he gives Of instructions sent 70 the
old Admiral with a contrary constructors
upon the margin, was . story recognized
as having heard before. He repeated this
story in a highly dramatic manner. hsesms
tnat
Biaine Might Have Tsld Hin
the story: but never gave him the slight
est intimation ] had seen a dispatch with
marginal note.
Shiphcrd has completely confused the
real facts of the incident Having heard
the story before, IL was my impression ct
the time Of my interview with Shipherd,
that Secretary Blaine had taken this meth
cd OF indicating that marginal note might
have been sent to supplement or complete
the instructions obtained in the body Of
the dispatch. The Peruvian minister hrst
related the incident To me. He said In Q
conversation with the Secretary, he COM
planned 10 him, the - crctary. that the do
partm'nt or govern ent had not TAKEN
lust such a course DS2rd Peru, or sent
such instructions to ! urlbu, 81 he, the ~
ruyian minister, had expected, and theirs.
preston gathered was, that
BIaine Had TeId the Perastaa Mists-
This incident to imply that he had indI-
Gated on the margin OF this dispatch. hts
real views, which circumstances didn't sd
init Of his doing in a constitutional man
ner. IL was simply an incident, In my
mind suggested by the conversation with
the Peruvian minister, and didn think
of il cgain till the conversation with Ship.
herd, when his relation OF the same story
gave me the impression that the marginal
note might be made upon dispatch to my
brother.
Witness said his relations with Blaine
were of friendly character. lie had
several conversations with him. The Sccrr
tary failed TO convince witness that he, the
Secretary, was carrying out the policy Of
President Garfield. lie failed 10 convince
II. ~ d IL nd nm
Witness continued the Secretary always
suggested something TO me in the nature of
A Political Fiirt.
Asa Democrat he had never much faith
in his methods, though personally liked
him. and my brother had great confidcnce
in him. The last interview witness had
with Blaine waS about the 18th or 18th 0l
December, Just before the publication of
the State Department dispatches In thai
publication there was dispatch disaPprov.
ing his brothers course.
Witness saw Blaine several times between
September and December and at no time
did he (the Secretary, y indicate that hc dts
approved OF his the witness) brothers
course. The witness received several let.
| Ter. from hi. brother In which he alluded
10 this letter Of reproval, and expressed
something OF astonishmept snd indignation.
witness was asked n he ha1a :ay :. :. .''>.s
letters with him, and he replied he bsd.
He then read the following letter from his
brother,
dated Lima, December 9TH, lssl The
Chilian papers are full Of that internal Ship
herd and his pretenses. They have been
kicked out Of this legation and out of the
/ state department, but he Is an indefatiss.
BILE nuisance. hope Sam Randall will call
| for all the papers In the department In rel
crence 10 him and his affairs ] have sent
| all his letters back TO the department., and l
| anxiously desire that the correspondence
| be made public. have fears u hopSnot
well grounded that our government means
i &c slide out Of the American position here
Nv pcrtonaI ts,S with Blaine and Garfield,
Sd SSar,e ~, nGa Sa, y. ihe MOI iof
my action. think they will
Throw Ne OSevk0s0
unless Congress backs up the American line
] have taken here.
Personally ! care little about II. but
must say that in Blsine's litter of the I'd
81 November TO me there was manifest
disposition Ia hedge.
Witness was asked II he could state what
his brothers understanding OF his instruc.
tions were. and replied. he understood that
be was to have elastic powers to carry ost
the policy begun 10y Ryaris, 70 bring sboee
Peace Bstwses CssIi SD Pesst
to induce the South American republics 70
cease war; TO prevent the spOilati0n Of Ps-
ruyan territory being made . conditi0a
Chilli and Peru.
In response 10 q question, the witBss
said do not understand that Blsibe'
showed dispatch with . marginal no>s
upon IL TO Elmore. Peruvian Minister, bat
simply related 10 him the incident referred
to- TO indicate that in that way only 10
could do what he wished ~ do.
Witness had heard that CorbiD, brother.
in-law Of General Grant, once owned one
half Of the Isndreau claim. Witness ssid:
In conversation with bis brother before tks
latter -ailed 70 Peru, no mention wss maj
Of the Peruvian company. His brother di1
refer TO one sbiperd' and said he hsd been
asked
M PsssSlesa 0sSaesl
TO see shipherd and look into his ctsis;
also. that re hsd seen Bbipberd and hs1
received, while In Illinois, several lettsn
from him. one Of which was Q brszsn ~
tempt at bribery, and that he proposed %
take them 10 Washington and show then
TO the Secretary.
Witness advised against this cour,e, ssy-
ing, Ou were t1Nlteu Dy tnc GTegtueub ~
look into this matter. would sdvfss -
TO take the letters TO Peru. Get 70 the boz
tom Of this thing, and then send hone -
the government oil you find In regard 70 T.
Witness added am not sure but IL miSA
have been better for Blaine II my bsuthsS
had, st that time, shown him Bhipheeos
letter.
WiIlisms-"How soy'
WiiDess-"I,ecause II Blaine hsd sses
that letter he possibly might not have e.
tertained that person, Shipberd, 70 long. -
IL were. unawsres. I don't know what 10.
fuencs senator Blair might haye hsd. bat
from nv know ledge Of Blaine ! should sey
be would have dismissed him. tBhiphsrdk
At once from any further eonsidersfion."
Wines continued, In general terms
gathered thst
DislD< Approves
the plans of the Credit lndusuiel. In thsfr
effort to obviste the spolistioo OF Peruvsao
territory. A letter OF an extremely e@s-
nent American impressed that visv. 10
letter was resd 10 blaine. aod be oordisily
approved IT. sentiments. The writer r. he
letter vas General Grsnt, snd IL VI ID
dressed 10 the Peruvian Minister. HnoeN
With whom General Grant hsd veg plsaer
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