New-York tribune., 1882-03-02


chapter Of hiss good that it was not :'rrrd 2" o.
trial-and should say affected m'Ho'nari1' ~ fW.'
sent mania by the hand and mouonana. m'}rnrhoI'i,
etc. by The nnccr. tins Is tne relation. A.. r'ae
been based on evolution on the prncpio iHn; ne "i'1
grows ke a trec ana ,hous,, |i.. NJ L i, , ~ scr ~
10y itself But what ought to De dose witt ms nan
Ilis execution would be the grcaiest d.sgr"ce
q sciontihe point OF view. hNrn @ GuIinS 'l
tric and others acquitted with less evidence u their
favor stckncy Colorado las Just been acquitted on
this ground, although there wasuV talk Of Insanity ne
fore. because he had friends and influence.
Eqt as principle JhG nanf1EG ,G T,1I T IsSau RSa
Al the time of the trial politicians got tosct ~ Gnu
cusrs ana s%ure he was sane. lR9y khe" II tley ~
ka0"lcdgcd he wasn't sane he Woulu hasg 10 nr 'c!u !
ted was NJ one " these cancl9cs IAnghtrTI ana
know how things were managed ter, Du' ''t raeS III es
man by saying he is sane; so they swore ii7
sanity straight through All the evidence Of his insanity
was beautifully naIsniga IN me ehG men uuuIIou 10
dogma about knowing right irom wrong prevailed IN
sane murdercrs usually do kho" riSht from wrong,
and Il Is because d murder Is terrible act that
the insane man commits II carry out the doctrine
OF coudemning every man who knows right from wrong,
hOgcleaung machine In Chicngo. The hog can't stop
after he once gets In until hc cmerges scaded and
cleaned the other side 80, II We start with the dogma
o. kn wing rgh from wrong which udee Cox aunounoe,
there stopping; trial must load 70 conviction ana
trial under such "a dogma If con'lcuou' lAppmuseI
DIR. MANN AND DIR. GRAY SPEAK.
Dr. Manu. the next speaker, said in part:
suppose our knowledge upon insanity came from
common sonIce-E EsquTolIand could NOT SEE. see nov Ts
case is exceptional one In beng an Instance
might ffssIS 6g called tRnR jude Cox recognized his if
the experts did not. II If rare however io ony per
cent Of The cases show eHaaton Instead OF
choly preceding mania
Dr. Landon Gray, of Brooklyn, said in substance
ant
that important principle r. a stake. We don't want
to do AS the Judge dd who sentenced a man not for
irrational TO kill Gueau II can get rid OF him as
harmful agent In any other way Every such case should
powerlcss release him. psrOnlng power vested In
The Governor and thus society IS rid OF the no1ou- Gle
and perfect justice performed think tls methO
is more humane and just than that which Dr. Hammond
proposes.
FEW WORDS PROM DRs. HENRY AND sAYRE.
Tho president then called upon Dr. Henry, who
began by saying: 81 AIN not member Of this
society, Mr.. President you aware ofthat faotT
"Yes,' replied the president, but that does not
prevent me from calling upon you"
Dr. Henry then took up the subject under discus
SION His remarks were in substance
The question is one Of so much Importance, and has
such general interest 10 all that, in common with the
have made up my mind tonight from what have heard
said that II could receive the serccs or one OF those
@TSgfS yer iOT dtI 10" tR2R that nu washington was
nice place to be in, but II what my friend Dr. Beard
has said regard 10 cauouses true change my mind
Sometime shall take the opportunity to ask Dr. Beard
about privately read with great deal OF interest
the description Of the wound mad0 by the bullet from
the assasfin's pistol and have followed with caro- and
mnuteness ,s @ goT p as head Of tb% bonalS on
Wards Island for some tune, and confess that Dr.
Hammond has not said word here tonight In s paper
that I'm not willing to udorse "lL eau 70 the Hinu
OF Dr. Hammond celebrated case In when b)lh or US
were called as pers man had committed deliberate
murder He had been following UP the man for year and
had leading his friends 10 believe that he would not
delicate CONDITION was called in to attend TO ne
case and the woman, who had been talking with
a very extraordinary condition Of his eyes.
replied tat dd not & In o0FPhty OF Pan po T3 On M b.
lis release in Tweny fourth st. / asked hin What he
doing and how he got along. He made some reply
or other then said, &" Have you any hard feeling
toward me on account Of my testimony ~ "Oh no."
said ne hut I've pretty good idea Of you as medical
practitioner"
After DR.. IIcury's remarks, which elected some
laughter and applause the president called Oh Dr.
Sayro, who said;
Iheye a single word to offer, and only single word.
and that Is regret that thc suggestion made by me at
the time Of the murder has NOT 6etn IoiI
lowed out w ihat d GufaS nf S b@tor tbc r
agree with DR.. Hammond that these maniacS shoniq
teau be shown uuato than that thc idea prevail thar
auy other than "a maniac Would dare 10 5uoot Lne
head OF the Nation 80 this free and enlightened heluOc
CLARK BELL's REMARKS.
At tho close OF Dr. sayrc's remarks the president,
Clark Bell. said he would speak = fow moments on
the question, and then the debate would be closed
by Or. Hammond. Mr. Bell said
There are three points which may say few
words upon tho vcrS able paper we nay listened 70 TINS
evening, and hrst regarding lhal form OF insanity
known reasoning mania. me modern authors VINO
are recognized in both Profts-oh7 a. authority aIe
mainly alike IN defining ihul I'ii" NLiH Sth'itoh
since has called nuUOmGula one n3 az u 90 reasoning
mania" and IN suhdyidng ami Classifying its various
at present Or # used Las no distinct -gulAcaon In al
casts however properly cassoi a@ noHolnnlt by tA'
older writers. OiCOur Including I"r under G7
cussion the pncnt usually rhafac,o by acute
ness Of the reasoning faculties upon alt subjects except
the particular upon which t.o NINA "t- derdnF,d
"e'i 4' ,,I,r .nfI,nriti,- IN many ca,r-
r rons,9ucucos of tho act but that il was
ron Der Sc Inc doctrine OF the legal responsibility Of
the insane has been former NtalS ons on "hlch ihc
tvyo ,,,ofrs,os have not usually a-rc,d. The iudc
r,,s a nj. ,rt h wa, rcspols u DE before the law
~ GENERALLY, and te Frcac. jis- have not
heretofore acquiescrd In the eg" vie" taken p our pro-
II may not be am,s, here toquo'c again the answer
made by fifteen judge 10 he House ol LoG5 IN conse
qucnce OF this nal OF McNdnSIien ana thcr answer
questions as follows That notwithstanding The party
committed wroLs act While anolh- under thr idea |
fEut h We rcdr,-i!nS imposed grievance or lJury or
under the impression OF obtaining some puo1c or |
private benefit hc Was ha0,r O." puh'rhm'hl' me |
tnr- Ought IN a cases % be- told tau every man should
bc considered % sane u nd unit "a, cntdiy .ctlry
proved iu evidence DintrinE however IRON many oi
lis profession the author ~ o-usnrs paper hos tlken
thc Wow generally taken hy tac bar aud 10y the |
Judiciary and las coutcndcd that au insane criminal
Should be held 30 the responsibility the sane, II
he was able uudeTs and ne nature or his act ard lts
r0ns-ouruces and 10 di-crilHute between right and
wrong without scoknSio disturb the verdict, which Is
generally acquic-csd the nsats. state true
dition OF the assassn form important question III for
cusC medicine to-day.
MIR. sCOVLLE CONES FORWARD.
The president had concluded his remarks and was |
about TO ask Dr. Hammond TO close the discussion |
when Mr. Scoville, Guiteaus counsel who had come |
,,, and uIohsrycl .alIlOu Il. uudcr,t OOd |