Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1882-03-22

one at some future time. Shipherd stated
that the letter of May 2lst was addressed to
the president, and, as he had been informed
: by letter from his secretary, j. Stanley
Brown, was referred to the state department
The letter of May 18th was then read. 1t
! was as follows:
May p, 1881
SIR-On the Dist instant transmitted to
the president duplicates of the present in
closures, which l presume have been or will
be referred to the department of state. in
close these for Minister Hurlbut, to be hand
ed him in your discretion and at the proper
time.
The copies to the president were accom-
panied with letter of explanation, as fol-
lows: 81 shall be glad to be summoned to
Washington, in due course, before General
Hurlbut and General Kilpatrick's instruc-
tions are prepared. Very respectfully,
-. R. SHEPHERD,
ITO Hon. Jas G. Blaine, Secretary OF State
Mr. Shipherd was then asked ia regard to
the Enclosures alluded to in the letter, and
stated that he had not made copies of the
Enclosures, as the originals were in the state
department. He believed the majority, if
not all of them, were in print. The princi-
| pal Enclosure spoken of was the prospectus
of the Peruvian company. The other in
closures were then identified by Shipherd as
they appeared in the printed volume of the
| correspondence.
The letter of May 31st was then read. 1t
was addressed to the president, and alluded
| to Enclosures which were also found in the
printed correspondence, and were identified
by Shipherd.
| The letter Of June 4th was addressed to
| the president, and simply called attention to
! the incosure, which was the fourteenth page
| of the letter to Minister Hurlbut, already
| published.
Shipherd was asked by the chairman,
! Did you have an interview with Minister
| Hurlbut before he left for PERU" Answer
/ did.
Shepherds letter to Hurlbut, in which he
! asked an interview, was then read, and Ship
herd stated that on the morning of May 2Sth
| he received a telegram from Hurlbut, the
tenor Of which was: 81 will be at the Fifth
Avenue Hotel Sunday morning. State when
an interview with you can be had"
Shepherds letter to Hurlbut arranging for
an interview Monday morning, May 3Oth,
was read. Shipherd then stated that he met
Hurlbut at 9 o'clock, as arranged, and after |
some interchange of courtesies Hurlbut be- |
gan the conversation with the abrupt re-
mark: But Mr.. Shipherd, your figures are |
enormous" 81 replied" said Shipheri,
General, l am not responsible for the figures
or the facts" Hurlbut' then stated to me
that he had been sent to me to tell me that
the president regarded my case as strong in
law and equity as it could possibly be- but
it was unfortunate that Peru should be in
such deplorable condition. He added that
the prime condition (which Peru would
consent to act would be that the
claim should be put into such a
shape that it would not impose a
hardship upon Peru, but should be remedial,
and should enable Peru to pay her indem-
nifty and get out OF her troubles with Chilli.
If that could be done the government would
heartily indorse the scheme. He further said
this claim must not be pressed upon Peru in
any shylock spirit. l (Shipherdl replied that
we expected the United States to assist only
if the affair could command the APP
prevail OF every fair-minded man. | asked
him if the secretary of state had given him
the papers had alluded to. He replied: "No,
sir; l know nothing of your scheme. l am
only telling you what have been instructed
to do" In speaking he never used the term
secret r. of stat., but always used the some
what vague term, tn government, the execu-
tive or the United States. He desired as full
an account in writing of my plans as l could
give him, ard he would read them with
greet pleasure. He said Peru ought to have
help at the earliest moment, and hope you
will press your plans rapidly possible.
Shipherd then made general statement to
the effect that he (Shipherd) never imagined
it would be necessary to buy any man, and
never intended to do SO. He did, however,
feel it was necessary to prevent Hurlbut
from taking position which might De vio-
lenIly opposed 10 their company.
Shipherd was asked: "Do you think Hurl-
but could be purchased?' and replied most
emphatically, Yes"
The Chairman-And you proceeded TO
purchase him? Answer-No, sir; simply to
prevent him from setting himself viciously
and determinedly against l recognized
the fact that it would be necessary to assure |
him that 1t would in the future result ad-
vantageously to himself or his friends if he
did not oppose it.
The Chairman-Then if he acted in good
faith, it was your purpose to do your part of
such arrangements? Answer-To that effect,
yes.
Shipherd was then questioned in regard to
his Interview with Secretary Blaine, and re-
piled that the interview took place at Mr..
BlaIne's residence, in that city, on the even
ing of July 25th. 1t lasted until late
hour, and was resumed next morning.
The Chairman asked: "Will you please
state who were present at that interview
Shipherd-I am met at this point by an /
because there was present !
senator of the United States.
The Chairman replied: ave do not pro-
pose at this time to investigate to any g..
senator, but We are not disposed to refrain
from lnquiring into the interview because Of
the presence OF a senator"
Shipherd stated that the interview was ex-
clusively between himself and the secretary,
the senator not being present in any sense as
a participator in the interview.
On being asked how this interview was
brought about Shipherd replied that it was ;
owing to the kind offices of the senator al
luded to. :
Mr.. Belmont asked: "Were you summoned
to Washington by this SENATOR"
Shipherd again suggested that he was met
by embarrassment; not that he had any :
personal objection, but that he was enioined
that he should be very careful in an investi- {
cation OF this character in making mention
of the names OF senators or members.
The chairman then suggested that lie I
might give the features of his interview with
Blaine, reserving other questions.
Shipherd then stated that in an interview, 9
which lasted several hours on the evening
Of July 25th, and probably from 10 to u $
o'clock on the morning of the 26th, he
(Shipherd) began by giving to the secretary I
a full statement OF the claims of the Peru
Wan Company upon their merits. The sec {
rotary listened, with what seemed to Mr.. /
a great deal more than merely c
courteous attention, now and then interject-
ing questions showing that he was following
every point with care and precision. He l
suggested some difficulties from legal point
of view-that We Americans had purchased
a claim and expected the United States gov
eminent to enforce it against Peru. After
full discussion the secretary asked Shipherd q
10 suggest what was wanted from our gov (
eminent. To this Shipherd, in effect, re- v
piled that at present we can ask almost moth I
ing. We cannot go into court down there /
until Peru denies the claim, and until this '
is done We have no right to ask our govern t
ment 10 interfere. We can only ask pro- '
visional remedy. Peru is now shipping,
and is about to make an arrangement I
to pay her war indemnity with our guano. a
All we desire is that official notification :
be sent TO both Chilli and Peru that there is t
a right asserted to that guano, and that who c
ever takes it will do so with the notice of r
that assertion. The secretary replied, that g
Is not asking much! After the matter ad ! Il