New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-08-10

"uo naNc Dccn worrying themselves nero 10 no puI-
pose since Saturday, returned to their homes to-
day, most of them sadder if not wiser men, Their
visit fruitless one politically considered ex-
cept to the immediate followers of Mr.
Tildcn and in pecuniary sense it
was disastrous Large sums were lost On the
races and at the gaming tables SO much so that
some of the statesmen" declared this afternoon
before their departure that everything had been
arranged TO fleece them all around this visit. 1t
only needed the presence Of some such man ~
Plunger Walton to create disturbance. AS most
of these men come from New-YOTk, how
ever, where the berality of the taxpayers
is pFoverba it will not take them long
to recover their losses, the chances there are
always against the taxpayers. Ii is curious
TO note some of the persons that can always be
found at these Democratic gatherings, talking loud,
paying 50 Il day for hotc bills and spending money
freely, yet never having any visible means of sup
port 1t may be that sOme of these men arc mill
Ionaires. but no ono would take Ed" Moore,
Cab" Reilly, Dave" Twohey, Felix McCloskey,
nike" Twomey, or Tad" 0Rourke for men of
that sort. An instance OF how some of these
men live is told true story at tho ex-
pense of Mayor Grace. He promised
of the persons above named. who claims to be q
relative of John Kellys, that he would appoint him
TO the Office of Mayors Marshal No sooner had the
Mayor given the promise than this person went to
the incumbent OF the Office and told him that lie
had better resign Immediately, the Mayor had
promised TO remove him. The incumbent, meIu-
Der of the County Democracy, at once informed bis
leaders, and such political pressure was brought
to bear the Mayor that he concluded not to make
the change. The next time the applicant appeared
the Mayor took him to task for his fOrwardncss, but
having promised to appoint him the Mayor kept
his word by paying out of his own pocket to this
politician the amount of the salary for one year,
$2,4OO
The bold display of dictation made at the
meeting of the State Committee yesterday
has injured the 2ildcn machine a great
deal more than any benefit it can derive from
it, Men like W. S. McCune, of Buffalo, who have
always acted with the machine heretofore, were
very much disgusted with the display of dIctation
Yesterday, and openly denounced it. There is no
question that, left to a free choice, the COM
rnittee would have called the State Convention
for September l3. The three men on the sub-com-
mittee. ex-Mayor Cooper, Lester b. Faulkner and
Senator Jacobs, ON Monday night all expressed
themselves in favor of the 18th, yet for reasons
they were unwilling to publicly state they brought
in report for the 2lst and urged it upon their as
sociates in such manner that they swallowed the
dose without questioning.
A curious fact is revealed to-day. Daniel Manning,
proprietor of The albany Argss and chairman of the
State Committee who came to Albany late Monday
night, brought the word for convention to be held
at Albany September 21. He was so certain of the
order being obeyed in full that he left the call with
mis- journal before coming to Saratoga. The CON-
mittee, however, changed the place TO Syracuse but
The argus failed to make the correction, ard to-day
has at the head of its editorial columns the call for
IL A
Senator Jacobs, in his speech, said that for good
reasons which he was not at liberty to state, the
change was made. Senator Daily says to-day that
this reminds HIM Of the speeches which Mr.. Jacobs
made In the Democratic caucusses at Albany last
winter during the deadlock. when any PROPOSE
ton was made looking toward "a compromise" said
Mr.. DAILY, "then Senator Jacobs would gem
orally get up and ask that action be de-
ferred, as he had positive information, the
source of which he could not give, that the dead
lock would end in few days This he repeated at
caucus after caucus without verliication. When 1t
came to the question OF selecting railroad commls-
sioners he began the same kind of speeches in
caucus again until one night said did not believe
he had any such information, and that would not
agree 10 any further pos yOnement, and | took up
my hat to leave Mr. Jacobs then agreed TO action"
Mr.. Daily went Oh to say that lie did not believe
Mr. jacobs and hls subcommittee had
Mr. Tllden or anyone else, and that the
committee was banboozled IN the interest OF few
tImld leaders VINO are AFRAID OF the Flower Oo0n,
and who want to fix up matters 80 as to ana their
local ticket i'll New York. IL this were true, 1t
would only demonstrate Mr.. Iildens control, the
mere use OF his name Oelng power.
Many persons disposed to doubt the TACT
that mr. Tdcn, of Oiicc, still keep his con-
trol over the party machinery. There Is no douDt
of this fac, however: Leading members OF
this committee III private have no heslta-
ton in stating their Difference to his views
his is due pLrily to the fact that once having got
control he mas never lost it, and also because ne Is
looked upon by Chese men as sagdcl0us leader out
the greater reason Is the power Oi ms barrel" at
election times. These do not hesitate to assert
that whoever Mr.. Iilden desires nominated Tor
Governor will be the choice ot the convention.
lie may not express any wlsh" said very nigh
official in New York CITY, out may merely, as III
the OF Mr.. Hewitt, say Jhat sucn candidate
would DC satisfactory"
"Ihe sentiment was all in favor of an early con-
venton," said hT. McCuno, OF Buffalo, to-day, and
think mistake was made in calling 1t alter the
Re euOiicams. There is no great political prluciple
al stake now aud we dOPt want man nominated
for Governor to give an advantage 10 1action In
New York. That Is what Is gong TO defeat u.s.. A
man should he chosen not identified With any lac
ton. As to Nh. Flowers chances, he IS c4pending
lots of money and is the only person making can
yass. HAT Is ali l can say about II" .
- 1t was IA mistake to postpone the c0nVentlon,
said PARK Commissioner Ollfte. don't OeiieVe
Mr.. Hewitt Will be nominated. Ihe New ORR
leaders are divided on the question. lie Is more
nkeiy TO be nimed iOr Mayor. As to Iamnany,
" hat can 1t 90 but support the reg aIar tckeJ =
James {. Truman of DInghamtOn, u member OF
the State Committee, was chagnned at the result.
" A great mistake was made" ne sald. Inc men
who MADE III think If Cornell Is nominated IL Will De
safe 10 put up OF their faction hey are AFRAID
oi Flower but the people tired OF being dictated
to and this will probably result III his nomination.
De erring the convention at The request Oh tne Atl-
8louopvnsts is TOO tim pretext"
As,enDlynlan ". A. POucner OF Oswego, another
member OF ,he committee, agreed Win MI. truman
" The majority had to succuInb to orders" he SAID
" The action VIII probably nominate Flower.
though II Is intended to help Hewitt"
SuniI,r talk was heard from other
Inemuers OF the committee, wnile County
Clerk Butler, ex-senator Gauidweu and Others O1
the County Democracy asserted tnat the COM
nIitteeis action was a blunuer. The idea 10 quite