Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1882-04-10

State department Is sent was very different
from this dispatch which the Secretary wrote
in my presence to read to me.
Witness further detailed the inter
view of November Sd. At the interview Cilley,
a gentleman thoroughly familiar with the
affairs of Peru and Chill, was present The
witness was struck by one remark of Blaines.
The Secretary drew his chair close up to the
witness and shaping him Familiarity said, do
you know Shipherd that you have something
they want. and have only got to be patient
and you will win your whole deal?Be patient
and you will see Martezey drop into your lap
like an apple. Every time the CHILEAN min
lister comes to the department notice that
his seat is hotter and hotter, and it is the
Peruvian Company that is disturbing him,
and this, said the witness, was only 80 days
previous to sending to me the letter of Dec.
Sd, in which he expressed so much indigna-
ton.
The witness was also impressed by another
occurrence at the interview. The subject of
possible American protectorate over Peru
was mentioned, and Cilley was asked what
he thought of it. He replied, NINETY per
cent of the Peruvians would hail it with the
liveliest satisfaction"
Witness next met Blaine on a train to
Philadelphia. few days after this interview.
He (Shipherd) asked him Familiarity and con-
fidentially his opinion of the fitness of gen.
tlemen, ex-Senators of the United States,
to be sent to Lima as commissioners of the
Peruvian Company, and Blaine said, ship
herd, they are the best men in the country for
that mission Don't fail to secure them. "
Recurring to the despatch Blaine had sent
to Hurlbut relative to his supposed connec-
ton with the Credit Industrial Shipherd said:
Subsequently meeting Blaine he (Blaine)
said, Have received reply from Hurlbut,
and there is nothing in your charges what
ever. knew there was nothing in it; so
don't say anything more to me on that sub
Ject."
Rice then asked the witness if he had any
further facts to offer to show that Hurlbut
ever had any connection with the Credit In
dustrial.
Ans.-Have not.
Rice-Have you any facts to offer to lead
to the slightest suspicion that Blaine ever had
any connection with, or interest in, the Credit
Industrial?
Ans.-None, whatever.
Rice-Have you anything to show that Blaine
ever had the slightest interest in the Peru
Wan Company?
Ans.-I have never charged him with any
connection or interest in either.
Rice-Then what grounds have you for
supposing that the Secretary ever was fav-
Orable to the company?
Ans.-The manner in which he treated the
subject, Senator Blair frequently told me {:
''Shipherd, you can quote the Secretary
freely; quote him great deal stronger than
you have done; you can't quote him to strong !;
don't expect him to commit himself in writ
ing, but be sure of this that the state depart
ment is thoroughly with US in this matter"
Further questions elected nothing of par
ticular interest other than the Secretary, in
discussing the Peruvian question, evidenced
desire to have the trouble between Chilli
and Peru settled as favorably as possible to
Peru.
The committee adjourned until 80 AM,
Monday.