New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-04-05
HOW THE VETO WAS RECEIVED.


1,-.cr,xcrox April 4-President Arthur's first
10 message reached the Senate early this after
,,oon The anticipation of its coming had the cncct
.Lea, Senators at their desks and TO I'LL tho GAL
,o,;as With snectators The reading by the Clerk
- listened TO with the closest attention.
Yr,on its conclusion short bat somewhat
confusing debate took place IN regard 10 Tue u's-
nosition to be made Of the message and the bill
Wr Farley. the Democratic Senator from Call
fo-ria was first recognized by the Chair, and made
q ,oton that the message lie upon the table until
to-morrow and be printed. The Chair, after hear
ing the motion, bethought himself that the llrS'
+bing in order was to put the bill upon It's passage
over the Veto and repeated the formula Shai' 'ne
bill pass Notwithstanding the objections OF the rrcs'
dent of the United Statesf Senator Sherman ihoNou
that the message and bill be referred 10 inc O'ii
nittee on Foreign Relations The Chair expressed
the opinion that the proceedings would not be regu-
lar ifthe vote was not first taken but the point be-
inc debated by several Republicans was surren-
dered The Chair then decided that Mr.. Farley's
motion to Law upon the table until tomorrow and
he prnted was first in order, the gentleman having
first been recognized. Senator Hoar made point
of order that no motion to lay upon the table untI
tomorrow and be printed could be made, as IL In
yolved two distinct propositions Ihereupon the
motion was modified to provide that the measure
be laid upon the table. the Senator giving notice
that he would call it up tomorrow.
More was involved in this little debate than
mere question of the regularity of the proceedings
The Republicans, as Is well known are cNideu III
regard 10 the merits of the bill and even those who
favor il in its present FORM or in any modified form,
were not prepared TO take position without refec-
ton upon the question of sustaining the veto OF the
President. Upon the other hand, the Democrats,
who have no motive in connection with the
matter except to win favor for their party
with the masses of the Pacific Coast
desire TO force a vote upon the message, knowing
that it cannot be carried the Presidential veto
but that the opposing votes will be nearly, If not
quite all from the Republican side. If, however
This subject is referred TO the Committee Oh Foreign
Relations il is probable that modified bill fixing
the restriction to Chinese immigration for shorter
period tlan twenty years Will be reported and
passed by the Senate. The motion to lay upon the
table was put and carried by viva voce vote. The
question of reference will recur Tomorrow, and 1t
seems probable that it will be carried by strict
party vote.
OF course if the Democrats could now prevent the
passage of another Chinese BILL without seeming to
be responsible for its failure they would be glad to
do so. Their record is already made in its favor;
and now if it is defeated by the veto of Republ-
can President and the question Is lett open, the
anti-Chinese sentiment of the Pacific Coast will be
enlisted for the Democracy. But such a scheme
would hardly be practicable They can be forced
10 vote without difficulty in the Senate
upon a modified Chinese bin and will
be compelled to support it or lose what
capital they think they gainedby supporting the bill
before The talk Of obstruction in the House comes
from the original opponents of the bill. Some
members who voted for it, and were respondent
,ol;t oIaAac Of he
that they did not believe any new bill could be
passed The opponents of anti-Chinese legislation
had been greatly encouraged by the sentiment de-
veloped thronghout the country by the demand for
Veto and would resist any bill.
This however seemed to be a gloomy Wow, born
of the first disappointment over the veto. 1t is
known that the bill would have commanded larger
vote in the House if ii had not been for
the twenty-years' limitation. The amendment
offered the House for ten-years' limitation re-
ceived 100 votes, 80 of which were afterward cast
against the bill. 1t is known that q number OF
these would have been given for II II the hHtatlon
had been ten years. 1t is reasonable to believe,
therefore, that ten years or ve-years limitation
will receive an increased vote. The matter will
probably not take shape however, for some time
The tone of comment upon tho message among
Eastern Republican Senators is generally favorable.
All agreed that 1t states what the President
has 10 say clearly, cOncsey and forclby. The New
England Senator's while they are gTatlcd that the
measure has been vetoed, and that one must
be made less Objectionable than the one against
which they struggled IN VAN, say that the veto
message proves that the President is with the Pa
cifc Coast people in principle and only dislgrees
with them over the length to which the restriction
shall be carried. Their own chief objection TO the
measure because OF its violation of the pTinc-
Piles of universal freedom by which all men have a
right TO 60 where they please and seek happiness
and profit in their own chosen way. The Pacific
Coast people of course disheartened and down
cast They declare that the veto means the loss 10
the Republican party of California. Oregon and
Nevada; and some of them went far as TO say
that the Republican party had elected its last Pres
dent.
THE MESSAGE.
TTTr