Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1882-07-26

the interviews. He had never seen Reerdell's
retrsction of his statements, although he had
heard such retractions had been made,
woodward was present at the first interview
but witness did not remember who were present
at the other interviews. He remembered Gov.
Clayton was to have been sent and had failed
to come.
MacVeagh said he had this morning looked
over the copy of his testimony given before
the police court. On Merrick's refusal to
produce this record, Wilson asked for a sub
pnna to compel its production.
The cross examination OF MacEeagh then
continued. He said ne might have testified in
the police court that Brady had been paid
$1,000 and Reerdell and Dorsey had drawn that
sum from the bank. His recollec-
ton was that Reerdell did not
say be actually saw that payment.
Reerdell's connection with the business
according to his own story wss bids and con-
tracts and awarding of sub contractor. He
was also TO keep accounts for the concern.
Another man whose name was not mentioned
kept these books under his supervision. The
preparation of false petitions was also part of
his duties as well as other general business.
Nobody ever told him that R2erdell was play
ing with him Or triiyIng with him. The con-
tracts referred to by Reerdell had been let in
1878, and The first of the acts had been done
DOlerl " do III Tic scudle-
In answer TO the foreman of the jury Mae
Veggh said the statements OF Reerdell had not
been made under any cOnpulsions SO far as
he knew. This concluded the examination
cfithe witness.
After recess ex-Postmaster General James
was examined by Bliss. He said he frat saw
Reerdell a. his room az the Arlington hotel.
Woodward and ex-senator Clayton were pres
ent. Reerdell said he was secretary for Dorsey
while the latter was senator, that he prepared
proposals and sent them to postmasters out
West for certIfication. He did other work in
preparing petitions and afidavts. Dorsey,
Miner, Peck, Vale and Boone were members
of the combination.
James then repeated that portion of Mac
Veagh's statement which referred to the
preparation of bogus books and the assump-
ton of fictitious names by Brady and Turner,
all of which Reerdell had afterwards told
MacNeagh.
At the close of James direct testimony he
was crossexamined by IDgersoll. Did not
remember how much money Reerdell
said had been paid Turner; thought Smith and
Jones were the names given by Reerdell as
the aliases under which Brady and Turner
were known upon the books. Speaking of
Auditor McGrew Reerdell told witness he had
heard that he (witness) entertained grave
doubts as to whether injustice had not been
done that gentleman, witness answered he did
not have such doubts. ReerGell then said he
could dissipate them. Reerdell showed him
package which he said contained Il book. At
Ingersolls request witness gave the dimen-
sions Of this package to the best OF his recol-
lection. He knew of jennings claim,
Reerdell said nothing about that claim in
their interview; had Il dim recollection OF
Reerdell saying something of Il route in which
he was interested. Witness never told Reor-
dell if he would help him in this matter he
wi cN mnuld ha1r, in hot o1ai,
dell did not Say he had prepared false petit
tiOns, but did say they had been made. At
this time his feelings toward s. w. Dorsey
were not unfriendly. Heard Dorsey attempted
to prevent his confirmation as postmaster gen.
eral. Never cOnversed with Reerdell after the
meeting On the train. Reerdell told him the
conspiracy had been formed while Dorsey was
in the senate. Reerdell gave the names of the
fgureheads.
Ingersoll (nterrupting) Who were the
fgureheads?
Witness-Johu ". Dorsey, Miner, Vale and
Boone.
Ingersoll-And s. w. Dorsey was the steam.
boat? Laughter
WitDeSs-Well, yes; the steamboat.
Ingorsoll pressed witness upon this point,
James said he Understood that s. w. Dorsey
was the principal being.
Ingersoll You mean head devil as 1t
were?
Witness-No, l won't say that, he was the
head center.
Taking up the conversation between the
witness and Brady, Iugersoll asked James if
he then told Brady to revoke the order for an
increase upon Rawlings White river route.
Witness answered lie was positive he had
rot so directed Brady. He had told French to
revoke the order. however.
Ingersoil asked witness if anybody lad told
him Reerdell was playing upon him.
Objection was made but Withdrawn and
James said he had heard couple OF weeks
later that Reerdell had made statement in
which he declared he had been imposing upon
himself (wItness) and attorney general.
Ingersoll-D.d any one else tell you any such
thing?
James-Yes, l believe you told me some
thing of that kind. Laughter
Ingersoll-I presume that iid. gave you
great deal of good advice about that time
Jamcs-la the interest of your clients, col
onel.
Merrick-Did he represent any of the de-
PENDANTS?
Witness-NOt SO far us ] know.
Merrick-Dd he represent any one at the
White house?
lngersoll-I have no objection TO his telling
Witness would rather not answer such
questions, unless forced to Go so.
The subject was then dropped and Wilson
briefly cross examined the witness without
eliciting anything of importance.
Adjourned