New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-02-12
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be addressed privately TO the Ministers by leading
unofficial members of the party as to which meas
nres the Government really meant to pass. Their
surprise was increased when they were answered
that the Government hope to carry all of the lead
ing bills An explanation of this sanguine view is
now cautiously given. The Ministers are hopeless
of transactlng any Impor ant business whatever
without thorough reform of the rules especially
without cloture, and they have accordingly re-
solved 70 make the adoption of cloture substan-
tally as proposed Cabinet question. If beaten
they will resign or dissolve Parliament, probably
the latter This decision, l understand, was
definitely taken at the recent Cabinet council, but
has not yet been announced publicly. 1t
nav possibly have been reconsidered at
to-day's council in consequence of the unexpected
lukewarmness of the Liberal press throughout the
country. better opinion, ,howeveris that the Minis
ters will elect to stand or fall coture in its pres
ent form, conferring on bare majority the power
of closing debate. careful canvass of the House
bv the Liberal whips results in the conviction that
the Opposition are able to muster $50 votes against
it. being the same cast in the Bradlaugh di-
Parnehte strength; but the Ministerial supporters,
after deductng all who are doubtful, will exceed
3OO No leading Radical below the gangway Will
oppose cloture Mr.. Dlwyn, Mr.. Ashton Dixie and
every influential Radical except Mr.. Rylands sup
port it heartily. Mr.. Rylands is pledged to vote for
it. though reluctantly The seceders altogether are
not expected to number ten.
TORY NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS..
The Tory assertions that large numbers OF
Liberals are endeavoring to induce the Government
TO lessen the stringency of coture based solely
on the remonstrances of the few Wings for whom
The Times speaks They unable to understand
the tran formation which the House has undergone,
and the ilnpossiblty of legislation in its present
conditions None of these VIII vote against cloture
after an announcement that dissolution would fol-
low defeat. he Irish Liberals Parnellites ex-
cepted adhere to the Government, notwithstanding
every effort to de!ach them. The Tories hope to
battle the Government by majority on the subsidl-
airy proposition hence Mr. Balfour's motion to post
pone the clause relating to cloture till the other
rules have been considered. his the Ministers will
oppose The Parnellites meantime are blocking
every bill introduced and otherwise doing their
best to convince the House of the necessity OF
crushing obstruction and enarging the power of
the Speaker to control debates.
THE FIRST TRIAL OF STRENGTH
If the session undoubtedly opened i'll for the Gov
ernlnent with defeat the Bradl augh question,
he Liberal whips d.dltheir best bring the Ii "a
TO the scratch, but sentimental scruples were al
lowed TO prevail party discipline, and twenty
eight Liberals voted against the Government, be-
sides which there were numerous abstentions 1t is
now generally allowed that the course followed was
q mistake in tactics but no decision has yet been
taken for the future nor will tn Government prom
Use 10 support Mr. Labouchere's bill allowing
aliIIna ton
TIE DEBATE on IRISH AFFAIRS.
The subsequent Irish debate chiefly remark
able for the elaborate ofensveness of Messrs
Gray, ODonncl, Biggar and other Parnellites. The
Speaker permitted imputatons of corrupt motives
and much vulgar personal abuse. The debate
on the Queens speech has disappointed
the joint expectations of the Conservatives and
Parnellites and made little impression on the pub
Gladstone's speech is commonly regarded as singu-
larly fine. Mr.. Forsters defence of his Irish ad
ministration unexpectedly effective.
ANXIETY ABOUT EGYPT.
The strongest point yet made against the Govern
ment is their Egyptian policy, respecting which
great uneasness is felt, the public apprehendrng
that England is likely to give way to the other
Powers, and believing that Prince Bismarck is
ready to intervene The French support is un-
trustworthy. crisis may arrive any day.
Mr.. GLADSTONE AND HOME RULE.
The Tory papers are engaged in apparently
concerted effort TO represent Mr.. Gladstone as hav
ing in Thursdays speech countenanccd Home Rule.
1t is true that Mr Gladstone used, always,
two phrases of excessive refinement, say
ing that no exception need be taken to
the declarations Of Mr. Molloy and Mr. O'Sulliyan,
that arrangements should be made enabling Irish
Legislative authority to deal with Irish affairs |
while Imperial questions should continue TO be |
treated i'll an Imperial Parliament; but he proceeded
10 point out the mpracticability Of such division
adding with marked emphasis " OF one thing am |
well convinced that neither this House of Commons
nor any succeeding House will at any time assent
to any measure by which the paramount central |
authority necessary for holding together in perfect
union and compactness this great Empire pos
ably be in the slightest degree impaired"
The whole speech may be fairly summarized thus
Il do not quarrel with theoretical declarations fa-