New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-01-05

the I'd Of July when did the act WINE inc hct 10
would not do II now for million OF dollars. u,,
Dr. George L. Beard OF New-York was then called 10
the stand 10y the defence. .,..
The District Attorney asked Mr. ScOYle What ho VI"
Mr. scovne replied that he intended to Propound 10
the witness the hypothetical questions o. VIC o ,s
ton and show that in the opinion of witness the prs
oner was insane on the I'd Of July.
The Court declined 10 admit the evidence, -, .,,
The witness stated that since 1866 he bad paid @
attention to diseases Of the nervous system ne uau
given special attention 70 those diseases Wch nls W
regarded the border line between SANITY
pnSc insfitStiop or any asyimn lie did not SO
many cases OF ravlng mania ana denen "Se %orer
line, where difficult diagnosis were reguIe'' nc -"
more than any superintendent ofany asylqn,, ,uos
tons OF the prosecution inquired the opinion OF VII
the prisoners insanity ON July z , ooo,,-
Mr. DavIdge objected Objection sisl@iheu au' oN'Nf
Mr. scovle stated that he had proposed by this VIII
ness 10 snow that the prisoner was insane
MR. sCovuIE MAKES A PROPOSITION.
The witness having left the stand Ar. scOvie stated
that he desired TO make proposition to the prosecution
There had been numerous experts examined Oh oo'n
sides They had testified TO some extent IN cohuauic
ton 10 each other Drs Goiing Nichols ana Walher
had been present throughout the ula' iho.igh
not summoned ~ either side He proposed 70 the pros
ecution. who said hal they only wanted s Pa! Ina, na
ana question them neither the defence nor the proseGn
ton asking question Let their testimony go 70 the
jury without nOe OF comment and le the Jury uuoue
upon IT, These gentlemen were not PAD 70 come mere
The prsoner-They are beyond CorKhlils money ,,o
prnnoston but Tor the intimation thrown ont by the
DstricAttorney that he had sent Dr Gray 10 ne ja
with Instructions 70 examine the mental condition OF me
prisoner and mad stated that II ne iound MN insane S
would never nave been brought 20 ua wa %
were good law then, II good law now II ~ WeIe
the proper thing then 70 rest the case on Dr Gray
ion. ii was the proper thing nov d fT oannd in
that this trial should not result so mat ~ sou
be shame and disgrace, only jurisprudence Dut
10 the American people. " .
The prsoner-rhey the three abest and most con
scentious men In the District They can't be touched
by money, and that's more Than you can say aDot .o
other Their opinions are Ike lawyers oplnioNS
you can buy them for $50, $500, or SJ,OOO $1,000,
Mr. Dayidrc-This proposition is most unprecedented
proceeding eau only regard il as an open and avowe9
confession Of weakness II the learned cousei Mism1
TO derive any benefit from the evidence OF the"e VIII
nesses, why did he not call thein , - ,,,,t.. I'D
The Dstrict-Attorney-He did call Drs Godulhg anu
Nichols. ,-....o, WIZ
did he notnterrogate them IN respect o ms ;naIIGr
know the opinions Drs. Go4dins and Nichols ana I'm,
less they have changed them within bre! peIiodanl
don't believe that hos taken place-they comic not pe
the slightest service to the fence decline 10 ~
cept the proposition presume II vas mae WIZ ,p
full expectation that il would be declined. Iechhe'
however not that attach any Importance 10 iuo ~
Tie prlsoner-AH want is farand square rebuttal
testimony don't care snap about the eNperlS
The Court-rnere Is nothing Tor the Codrl 20
don't want my lawyers to. If The prosecution VIII come
Times Bro6ks chief of me secret service Division Of
the Treasury Department. then called to NE stand
loving statement Ihad an interview with the prisoner
at min ght on the % OF July. When entered the eel
announced my name and position. MT GuteaI was ID
bed He rose mp and exhibited great anger ana excite
ment and wanted 10 know why came at that tne o!
night ana disturbed his rest and que ana ne too Ie
to 20 away l"etoFted pIetiy n"Iy 'naI ~; len
q murderer to complain about his rest ana qne wen
by ms cruel act ne nad disturbed the fsi hh qo' VI
the NHuon anu plunged II mo gf!cI nv o,
ana said he no murderer lie was CbriSuah anu
gentlemm said nat TOO Pfoes7eu 70 De into bis
uan aud though. thai II De- Hau ever am uuu NV
counsel IN this matter. he would not nave done 80
wicked tAine. lie sad 1l1{ ne 4'I av ,aA'H ard
prayed over il for six weeks, and the more ne
thought ami PRAYED the more satisfied he was that
he bad 70 DO this thing cndea gOred to argue with
him, but he would have no argument lie had maze up
his mind that he had done II a. matter OF dny ana
woud nor .,Sn NO 10 AZ; ~ moi Llmt 70 be disturbed He
spoke also OF s beng Saiwar ana asked me whether
va e,IyrayIt "y9S and staiwart" rnen7
said he YOU appreciate my motives IN dome this
thing You see il Is political necessity what
did, did from patriotic motives 70 unity the parry.
We talked probably half an hour kept croWuns MN
ana he talhed eloalent toq Ai a Gn9 70 "i,o
soui on earth Of what he was going 10 90 nv MN
1tTrc arr@s's He said: Don't do It, II You do you
vii arrest innocent There was no man connected
with me IN this thing
TELLING THE OLD STORY OVER AGAIN
ouesoped him abou. the purchase Of the pistol; he
told me where he purchased it. The next day visited
him lie was calm then and quite glad to see me. He
gave me the details OF his work. how he began how he
watched the President, how he going TO shoot MN
two weeks before, when he was deferred by seeing the
moor sick wife on the arm OF her husband He told me
olso that he was wing in wait for him night the
White House when the President came ont and his
fret impulse to xii him then somehow he was re
Mr. r aine's house aud waited for them 20 out
He could see Mr. Blaine arguing and striking hls hands
would be striking his hands and talking and he madeu ~
his mind that they were still further conslrn$ against
the liberties Of the people and lha the President must
die suggested 20 him then; II your Eahd was Htaye
when you the wife Of The President on mis- arm; II
y0ur hand was ed when me President War alone go
s o Si that as AN animation from cod that he did not
IN tegIrO l
IT, pTisoncrIt Was that only had authority 10
move The President-not Alrs Garfield
The witness-I IeuotlbqT very distinctly one remark
re mas suffering carfay" Poor fellow" said he Il
am very sorry. wish had gwen hun Third bullet
and put hn out of misery mink that th@' Is SUD
stsntially the conversation between us.
Mr. Sc6vile-What lid he say III regard to 81 pres
sure - or an "inspiraton"l
The witness-I don't believe he said word about
either ILL.,. ~, ~, -,
stated TIE conversations which occurred between US
M sc5villc-WAat did he say in connection with the
name Oi Goa ID regard 20 that act{
The Witness-NOthlng beyond what / nave stated
that he thought Ovor the matter aui prayed over the
matter for weeks and the more Ae Thought over Il
he prayed over 1t the more codeht nc vas
thai IL Was hls duty 10 remove the President.
Mr scoyiAeIn what connection did the prisoner use
the word God y
fhc prisoner-That is evident to every intelligent
man; Scove there is no use IA spoiIng every thing by
THIS examination II you let the witness 90 vi!
be all rIgnL You nave no sense
The WItuers-I caI only repeat what l SAID before,
that he stated that he had taken God into his
counsel IN tins matter.
Is prisoner rrupted Mr.. 5cOyic in the midst
of one of his questions and the aJJcr aDgrly
fuanded him to be quiet. The command was without
nfT.cf however and the prisoner exclaimed BrOOSs
said thnt everybody was against said. Il don't
care II Almighty IS for mo. Will take my chance
and aft0r awhile tAe people will be with me- am here
- INV counsel" ne shouted auCrily, struggling with
line deputy marshal, " don't want tbs O;Bcer lying
around ne sit down and mind your own business. l
ann III kiug to nifty millions OF people. What are you
Nothing bat underug. Fifty millions Of people listen
to when talk, ana never JtIA unless nave 7Oihe-
thing 20 say"
ME- ScoYc-Did your port your interview to anyonei
me wltness-To MT. COrkhH anu Attorney Genera!
MacEeagn. - ,..-.,
Ths prisoner-Mr MscVeagh is Christian man, and
that il me reason did want 10 have anything
do " IA this case That Is the reason the NewJersCy