Morning journal and courier., 1882-05-04

sor replying that ill his professional work he had had such experience. Prof. White then was asked if he had read such and such au- thorities which Mr. Jones named. Witness cited & long list of authorities he had read. Mir. Jones read from authorities to sustain the point that injuries to the genital organs would be frequently manifest in cases of merely ordinary connection. Proceeding, he asked And yet you call it brutality without knowing but the connection may have been voluntary I still retain my opinion given.
 Suppose the genital organs as to 1, would there then be any danger of a rupture of those parts? There would if violent and sudden efforts were made
 Then in such case 1t might be a case of ln- jury and not of rape? It might.
 We'll now, Dr., how many cases have you examined within five days of intercourse Probably two.
 Witness-I have examined two cases where the proportion of the parts was such that ln- tercourse was not effected.
 Mir. Jones' And if it had been effected you would have called it brutality? Yes, sir
 Witness-I examined another case. In both cases the fourchette might have been rup- tured by violence. In the other case the dis proportion of the parts was such that inter- course was not effected. In the last case my examination was not so soon made as S m n the first Now my opinion is that in all these cases intercourse might have been effected without a rupture.
 MT. Jones-How? By gentleness
 And if little force had been used you would have called it brutality? Yes, sir.
 MT. Jones-Dr., then in a word the size of the parts decides the question of violence and it may happen to woman 2 years old ? Yes, Hoffman and Lehman so say. If there is no disproportion of the parts, if the parts are adapted to each other, why should a rupture occur? Because if man tries to enter door with heavy burden on his back and enters at one side he is in dan ger of breaking down the casing. Daughter. Witness questioned by Mr. Doolittle as to the amount of light in the West Haven morgue. Witness had paid visit to the morgue and had satisfied himself that there was enough light there last August for the proper making of the examination of the genital organs of the deceased, which Drs. Shepard and Painter made. Mir Jones inquired-Dr., did you see any cobwebs down there? No, sir. Did you see any gratings at the windows Yes, sir.
 Describe them? Witness described them at length and gave the number of bars etc. He held that the light was amply sufficient for the purposes of the examination made by Drs Shepard and Painter. He gave the dis tance away of the adjoining building. It was feet inches away from the morgue. This he said did not interfere with there being sufficient light
 Mir. Jones questioned witness, who main taiued that there was light sufficient and en- tered into sort of mathematical computa- tion to demonstrate the tenableness of his statement As matter of fact he contin- ued, there was an abundance of light.
 Doctor if you have a grating at this win dow here (pointing to the rear window), a little mud on it outside and some cobwebs on it inside, would it interfere with the light any? Daughter Witness thought it not parallel case
 MT. Jones asked if an apple tree stood near the window if it would add to or desract from that window.
 Witness was in doubt about this applying to the question.
 MT. Doolittle-He wants to know if you stuck your head out of the window if you would see an apple tree. (Laughter)
 After some further interrogations about authorities Dr. White was excused and Dr. Painter was recalled MT. Doolittle inquired briefly and Mr. Jones then asked Doctor, when did this occur to you that the windows were open? Did it occur to you when you were before us the other day? No, sir.
 It did not occur to you that the windows were all dirt and cobwebs, and that the win dow was open? No, sir.
 Wm. A. Countryman called and inquired of by MT. Bush Live in New Haven :; am a newspaper reporter for the New Haven Duly Register; was such in August last. Yes, sir had an interview Saturday afterno on, August 6, at 3:1O with James Malley. It was in the store of Edward Malley. I asked him if he had anything to say about this case. He said no. said, but you know the body has been found :? He replied yes, but where, off Press Hinman's? I said no, ''of Hills" I asked did you know the girl? He said no! I think repeated the question, and he said in a sort of hesitating way that he had seen her on the street. l asked him, did you write any letter to her He said no. I said do you know they have found letters to her with your name signed to them? He replied I can't help that I never wrote her any. I asked did you ever visit her at the house? He replied no, and that was all, except re- quest on his part, I should add, that I should not mention it in the newspapers in connec- ton with this case.
 MT. Bush-InsIuire, gentlemen.
 To MT. Jones-Heard of finding the body at that morning, Yes, at 3 o'clock it was pretty generally known about town that the body had been found,
 MT. J.-By noon of that day, Aug. 9th, was 1t or not a subject of conversation about town wherever you went? On Chapel and Church streets it was, and in the stores.
 Were there any conflicting reports as to where the body was found? No, sir, I did not hear them.
 You went into the store presuming he had heard of it. You went in at 3:1O, you asked him if he had anything to say. Now, did you know him? No, sir.
 Did you tell him you were reporter? I may have done so, don't think I did.
 Will you account for his asking you not to print it, if he didn't know you and that you were 8 reporter? From my questions to him he probably thought I was a reporter will swear that to the best of my recollection did not mention that was reporter
 You went up to James NIalley and said, have you got anything to say about this case ? mean it, know did.
 You went up to man you did not know, looked at him and asked him what he had got to say about the case? Yes, sir.
 What did you refer to when you asked him if he had got anything to say? I referred to 8 rumor in connection with finding the body of Jennie Cramer
 Did you profess to state ill your paper what your interview was ? | did in the main. It was not fully written out, owing to press of matter.
 Did you profess to state the manner in which you approached him and what you asked him? l don't recollect exactly.
 If you cant remember what you had in the paper, how can you recollect about what passed at this interview? Because I thought it was rather important.
 Did you not ask him if he knew the body of Jennie Cramer had been found? I think not
 Do you profess to say you recollect word l for word a conversation you had so long | ago? I give 1t in substance.