The daily gazette., 1882-08-14
THE SUI .TAN'S VIEWS.
WHAT HE THINKS OF ENG
LANDS POLICY.
INTERVIEW WITH THE KHEDIvE.
The sultan Holds the BOmbardment to
Have Been Cruel and Unjust-ReOuf
PAsha Declares That Arab VIII Fight
20 the Bitter End.
me " York Herald. ]

4 C0NSTANTINQPLE, July l0.-ln an audi
ence granted to your correspondent at the
| Yildiz Palace this afternoon the Sultan ex-
pressed himself freely upon the Egyptian
| question. The conversation was carried on
| entirely through an interpreter, as His
| Majesty speaks no language but Turkish
1.-THE situation in Egypt" said the Sultan,
"was not serious until the presence Of the
fleets preciritated affairs and exasperated
the people. Arabi's party then took adj
| vantage of the situation to infame the popu-
lace"
''What does Your Majesty consider the
original cause oF the troublep
| 81 will explain. There have been In all
the Egyptian public departments great
number of English and French employees ap-
pointed and KEEP In place by the influence of
the English and French Controllers and
Consuls These employees profted enor-
mOusly by the abuse Of their places, which
they held to the exclusion of the Arabs.
They constantly extended their own privi-
leges and increased their profits until Arab,
who was then colonel in the service, COM
planned to the Khedive. In this way breach
occurred between Arab and the Khediye and
difficulties arose which might easily have
been arranged had not the appearance of the
fleets aroused native feeling and destroyed
my plans for tho reconciliation of the oppOs-
ing factions and peaceable settlement of the
troubles. had already sent to Alexandria
| a commission, including Dervisch Pacha,
Achmet Essad Effendi, Lebib Effendi and
Cedr Effendi, I'd act as arbitrators, but the
action of the English rendered their errand
useless. Lebib Effendi, who has just re-
turned, will give you a written statement of
the case more at length"
''What does Your Majesty think of the
bombardmentp'
at was most cruel and unjust. The Eng
lish forbade the Egyptians to fortify their
own works and then while defenceless
opened fire upon them. This was an unjust,
inhuman act and contrary to the law of ma
tons. The English claim that they were
dealing with rebels. In that case it was
England's duty to inform the sovereign
Power and to leave the settlement TO that
authority instead of taking the law into her
own hands, which she had no right to do.
The English say there is no justice among
us. Yet let us look at Ireland. England's
, Irish subjects are simply demanding right
which here in Turkey is universally granted
TO the people Such troubles as the Irish
: agrarian riots would be impossible in Turkey
England boasts of her superior justice, yet
/ we have what she does not grant to her sub
jects-an equitable land law under which
} | farmers and even farm laborers are pro-
A tected in their rights. When the Rouman-
z ians obtained the Dobrudscha they continued
: the use of the Turkish law in regard to real
e property"
Ne 'FWhat is Your Majesty's opinion about
the result of the present troubles"
l. 81 am sure that when all the facts are
known in America and other impartial
!, countries the action of England will be con
/ demned as arbitrary and unjust If Eng
i lands object ia to protect her own interests
4 In India she has taken the wrong course.
= l'She will never be allowed by the other
!. Powers to occupy Egypt alone. France
v would insist upon the maintenance OF free
neutral province or a joint occupation. In
| either case there would be more danger to
the canal thar under the Turkish rule.
Every EnglishIhan who has any brains in
: his head understands that the interest of
England is in the maintenance of the
, Turkish power 1t has been the intention
and desire of the Turkish government to
! maintain the status qato in Egypt 1t was
endeavoring to bring about peaceful settle
ment of local differences when the fleets ap-
S peared and prepipitated a crisis.
THE KHEDIvE.
ALEXANDRIA, August 2.-The Herald
: correspondent had the following interview
with the Khedye to-day in the palace of Ras
el-Tin:
y Correspondeht-Is 1t true that Arab
s offers terms of surrenders
/. The Khedive-No; Arab sent me a
message that II was impossible to recognize
d me as Khediye while English troops were in
J., Egypt and it would be better that all Egypt
o should be in ashes than in the hands of the
il English Arab forgets that had the Egyp-
tian troops obeyed my orders not to abandon
l. the forts and remain in Alexandria the
ls English landing In Alexandria would have
10 been unnecessary.
a Correspondent-Wha mission has M
de Lesseps to Arabic
The Khediyd-I was not consulted on tht
= matter AraLi has given a safe conduct tC
=, NJ. de Lessepa, and he informs me that hs
= expects M. de Lesseps to meet him tonight
= at Damanhour.
u Correspondent-Have Osman Refld and
the Circassian officers, who have just arrived
I'd from StambouL, brought Your Highness any
N special message from the Sultan
Ia The KhediVt-No. | shall Immediately
rt form body guards, with these Circassians Al
lg officers, and thus form the nucleus of q
new Egyptian army.
T. The Khedivd spoke most warmly of the
IL loyalty shown him by General Stone and
t. praised the energy of Consular Agent Long
ne ARABI's EMIssARY.
US US ALRxANDRIA, August 2.-Your cores
U. pondent also had the following interview
with Reouf Pasha, who arrived here yester
4 day from Cairo and from Arabi's camp
r Reouf is very dark, 1.-THE little man. II,
" was formerly governor of the Soudan.
a Correspondent-When did you see Arab
u. Reouf-On Thursday, at Kafr-el-Dwar.
COrrespondent-Did he show any sign o
Il. the white feather
no Reouf-No he will fight till the last
n The whole nation backs him. He told me
rt I'll have the moral support of France ant
mt Italy, the friendly advice of NJ. de Lessep
y. and the Italian Consul, and have friends il
)t- Baron de Ring and members of the STAN
er boul Conference. / will fight till the Eng
rs lish or my countrymen are exterminated'
THE SITUATION IN EGYPT.
ALEXANDRIA, August 13.-News has
lust been received of skirmish to the
n westward of Alexandria, beyond the Meki
th forts The sailors and marines stationed
there drove humber of Arabs back with
~ the fire of small field piece. There wai
IN no loss on the English side. Foreigners
~ here are beginning to grumble, and have
a. formed so-cAlled vigilance committee IL
watch EuropehnSinterests. This movement
will be a SOURCE of considerable trouble Il
81 Sir Garnet Wolseley unless firmly dealt with
GA The enemy's main detenees appear to b.
IL finished 1t i'd rumored that Arab Pash,
he is sending laborers away to avoid the neces
sity of feeding them.