New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-06-19


when was not bothered by meetings ana other
things. ! had plenty of time there and lived so
pleasantly that I'm sorry I'm ont; Ehcep', ing
and kept all news away. they treated me
well and became lannon's gardener The speech
hasn't been printed in this country but defy any
body to read 1t through II appears III Inc LOaon
Times and then say that 1t Is either conmunlsc VI
utopian. You might as well charge me with can,
nibalism as TO say that my oennl,,En
TIC. As 10 any difference with Mr. farheii,
said In that speech: e am about to undertake a
task that should have been performed long ago
that is the definition of the land for the people
the charter cry of the Land League anu the pug
bear of the Conservative organs In dong I'M,
shall lay my self open to the suspicion OF ulnering
with Mr.. Parnell and most of my colleagues III thc
Land Lcague movement, but the fact Is there IS hoI
particle more of difference Of opinion between
the member for Cork and myself upon TINS question:
than there was when we first stood together uPV,.
public platform in Wesport three years ago Mr.
Parnell advocated peasant-proprietary; am III
favor OF the land becoming the natohal
property of Ireland. If peasant-proprletap
is conceded either by Lord Salisbury wnen
he gets IN, power OF by Mir gladstone before ne Rots
ont am perfectly satisfied that the purchase use
money that must be advanced by the State I9r
carrying out such scheme Will become the ute
this TO be inevitable from the growing
poverty OF Irsh agriculture, l an almost
indifferent as to whether Ir. ParnelIs plan OF
my own be adopted but as was The irst 10 raise
the cry Of " the land for the people THINK tne
time has now come for giving clear dominion %
What mean and ProRGse that's my po1Ur
tary thIs. that instead Of requiring the tenant
farmers to pay the purchase money iOr inc caII
upon the farmers to pay perpetual land tax. or
land 1.-THE, which would be equivalent t. about
one-half Of the rent paid To the landlords Slr
Parnells plan OF fifty years at per cent is more
generous than mine, and more feasible Tor that
reason. DO not care TO be generous 10 those VINO
ably be adopted /; Lord Salisbury Is almost ready TO
take il up. and I'm not going TO Maggie ABOUT It"
dollars"
HOW COERCION WORKS.
What is your opinion about the effect OF the
passage of the Coercion bill r
Il have travelled a good deal in Ireland since
came out of prison. and found that the people are
not at all alarmed because of it, The leaders OF
the Land League however, feel apprehenslve that
its enforcement will incite the people TO commit
ourages as the bill of last year did This OF course
would do Us great harm by arousng external Ieel,
ing against US. The bill IS of course, directed
against the Land League, though protesting 10 De
directed against secret organizations from when
violence reared Ii has stopped our NEE ngs ana It's
primary effect viii be to suppress all public discus
sion III Ireland. As to how coercion WORKS, let me
tell You an incident which occurred while was III
jan. little boy ten years Old goes through the
street vhIstling, Harvey Duif, which is air par
ticulary offensive TO the cOustabuldry. He IL ar
rested, indicted for whlstling Ia manner calcu-
lated to terrIfy Her Majestys sub ects and sen
fenced To imprisonment for SIX months"
What is the feeling among the Irish III regard
to the Phoenix Park murders 2
The general sentiment OF the Irish people Is one
Of horror at the unprovoked murder OF friendly
Lnglshman. The opinion is very prevalent that II
was a blow aimed AT the Land League, and may
have been done by persons III the pay OF the land
lords II is not believed Oy the leaders O Tue Lana
League ihat the Eenlan organlZal ION had any thIng
to do with II. and the talk of certain men on THIS
side OF the ocean that they were connected with 1t
Is i brag which only harms the cause
MR. LOWELL AND THE SUSPECTS.
How do the Irish people feel about the action of
Mr. Lowell in the case of the suspects for which he
has been CRITICS d here
81 didn't have time to inquire into that. Twas
released from prison the day of the Pheulx Park
murders, and Immediately the whole work Of the
Land League fell on my shoulders. Ny opin-
ion is that from Mr.. Lowells known sympathy with
all Just causes and oppressed peoples he would hest
tate to do anything to offend the Irish.'
What do you think OF NJ. Gladstones present
positionp
1t Is Just now a very critical one, particularly in
the Egyptian bus So far a. the Irish question
copccrned he has proved that his latest legislation
il as great failure as his first lis has been
converted TO Mr.. Parnells views, and his Arrears
bill II both a confession that the Land biil was
failure and an admission that MI farneLs opposl- |
ton was Justified"
. How do you look at the future Of IrelaldT
The general outlook was never hopeful. |
LandlOrdIsn Is completely dlscredled and destroyed
a, a system, ana as said in my Liverpool speech.
the only question now Is one II compensation. The
Land League mo yement, though social, has paved |
he way for the National movement. On the qucs-
ton of self-goycrument t. DO taken up after the |
land question which has been hanging over Ire
land Tor centuries. Is determined there Is no dIsa
creelnent between Mr.. Parnell ana myself
In the afternoon NJ. Davitt mel DE-. Wallace,
Stephen J. Meany aud other representative Irish
men at the Aston House, aud held
consultation which lasted more than three
hours 1t was Mr. Davitts intention to leave the
city III the afternoon loI Boston by special train,
Ia ufarpu |
departure had to be postponed Last
night Mr. Davitt was at the Everett House. tie
TO =. A. Collins. of Boston, that he
would be in that city on Tuesday evening.
Mr. Davltt Is accompanied by a young lrishman
named Redmond His capacity Is that Of Mr.. Day
tt's secretary. lie will remain, says Mr Dayitt In
the United States " TO acquire a political educa-
ton He l. q commonplace type Oh young Irish
man. who peppers his cOuycrsatIOn with plenteOus |
" bcgorras," aud has enjoyed the dis lneGon ot be-
ing imprisoned IN Ireland