New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-03-22

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addressed TO the President by shpherd wns then read
| as follows:
NV letter of the 2lst instant and s Enclosures were
acknowledged and in part replied 10 through GGneIr
ter1ay The principal suggestion he made was that It
might be expedient to advance some money TO omn TO
meet herlmmediate need, aad to dspacc the neg0ila
tons she ia engaged upon with European parties
and he asked me il the PsTuvan CGmPay nv y Would nIas
tatngly on the comprehensive assurance odnit ,nI
able rights as such, we upon our part shall be
ready to supply amount Of money necessary or con
words with clear understanding Of all HI the facts facts and md
probabilities Of the sltuation ana sha not De iTuna % n
fronting lis shall be glad TO discuss personally win
the President and Secretary Of State at their early con-
| ycnience.
The missing letter OF June A. addressed TO the Pres
| dent by Shipherd Is IA follows:
have the honor to ncosc for the information OF the
| the United States Minister TO Peru.
letter referred TO- Mr.. Shipherd explained was the
letter under date Of June 3 1881 which contained the
long list of names The next letter read was one ad-
20 the President by Shipherd and dated June 2l
| 1881:
| have the honor TO forward herewith copy Of
translated reprint OF an old Peruvian pamphlet %hlca
throws considerable additional light upon the Cochct
claim heretofore submitted for the Presidents consider
alton.
The chairman-wcrc you summoned TO Washington as
suggested in your letter Of May 25!
The witness-I not.
TIE INTERVIEW WITH MINISTER HURLBUT.
The chairman-Did YOU have an interview with Mr..
Hurbut before nc left
The witness-I did.
The chairman-State how that about
The wness-That is set forth IN the following letter
addressed by me to General Hurlbut dated May 20,
1881:
Pursuant to correspondence initiated several weeks
since sent 10 the President the 2lst inst full set
OF papers showing claim owned by my clients which
should control the future of Peru for at least the next
letter Yesterday sent TO the Secretary OF state
duplicate set for your own use The plrpo+e OF ms
engagements, an early personal interview quite in
forma! which might explain TO you freely and fully
the policy my clients propose TO pursue anu the n
n9ue and extent & of he GG9oPfaon 10 aord n detail
More particularly Is our purpoae ana desirc, ana IL
will be our endeavor 10 conduct our negotintions IN
avoid the necessity ofdplOmatc intervention. ncose
you single proo' which will suggest our programme,
the of ssS for , you & can SSme to h pr
dent sends for me- but If could you here and at
91Tsr s woEf Win IpSS repS bR % xe @ and @ ob
The chairman-Tis is true copy Of the original from
your lctter-bookl
The witncss-Yes; and the nco'ures therein referred
10 are found in the printed volume, beginning at page
675 and ending at page 677.
The chairman-You say I'm this letter TO General Hur
bat, pursuant to correspondence initiated several
weeks since sent 20 the President. on the 2ls inst
full SET of papers etc. What correspondence does that
refer tol
The witness-That refers ia letter which addressed
to the President back in April and OF which
intended to have produced copy. / had
not thought of it since that time. msed by begin.
ming with the missing letters will state the substance
of It, was purely preliminary simply notification
that should open correspondence with him definitely at
later day But Is letter which, like all the other
letters the correspondence, shall be very glad to pro-
duce.
The chairman-YOu can produce il hereafter.
The witness-I WILL with great pleasure.
The chairInan-What occurred between you ana Mr.
Hurlbnt in pursuance OF this letter.
The witness-On the morning Of May %, received
telegram from General Hurlbut which seems 10 be miss
ing from my fles searched very eaborately for it while
was in Ncw-YOTk; have no recollection of having
seen it since first received and filed it. l have copy
oft; hut / state ii verbatim think, with sufficient
accuracy.
The wtness-The tenor OF the dispatch, which was
dated at Washington, May 2S 1881. was like this:
state when and where interview can De had"
The chairman-In pursuance Of TN. what happened
narbTt at the Fifth Avenue Hotel letter when
Fifth Avenue Hotel sunday and Monday. My home is
Long Island. Will come in on Monday morning and
unless the train is late will be with you at about $40
The chairman-This is a true copyf
The wtness-It is n true copy.
Mr.. Rice-Monday would be the 30thl
The wness-Ycs May 80, Decoration Day
The chairman Proceed with your statement OF what
followed.
the Fifth Avenue Hotel somewhere about O'Clock on
Monday morning, May 80 met General Hurlbut some
where in the lobby OF the hotel
The chaiiman-Had you previously known General
The witness-I was about 10 say that recognized him,
having been resident either within or close 10 his
Congressional District and having knowh MN %nen he
Freedmen's Hd Commission in Cmeago,
and was in New-Orleans on official business had of-
cil business with him a. his headquarters in New.or
almost instantly, he called my name. recollecting me
also. He invited ne to some convenient sofa, and
opened the conversation with this remark But, Mr..
SLipherd. your figures are cnOrmOus.'
WHAT Mr.. HUELBUR. SAID 10 smPHERD
That the frat word in the conversation this
business OF course, there were some mutual social
courteslcs ntcrhaneed. replied: General, not
responsible for the figures any Of the facts take
them "a / lind them cannot undertake
Ike "A verbatim account of what passed can only give
the substance ana tIh tih give lhai win runccIt
curacy. lie stated 10 me that he had been sent 10 ten
tbe printed papers, being strong case both in
law and equity. a could w,ll be made that the
first difficulty the way was the unfortunate condition
OF Pcru that il would more than unknd 10 prcss
Peru at such "A tim" this for claim large thai,
o IGe Prsdent 9"Rd consent to undeftasc II in Behalf Of
my clients that The scheme should he 50 framed as TO
be remedial and Peru should nave help under IT,
de f MoN H on tH ~ y % If f tilic SboId uma,cIy re-
allie what was just such reasonable proportion Of 1t
inigh he realized without imposing hardSHp upon
Ihe PCr,vlais and that meanwhile it could be made
means Of enabling Peru 10 pay her war lHdeInniiy 10
Cnl. and thus get out from uudcr the heel of
Chill which likely to crush the last life oat oi her
that IN such case, aud the further con
duOn that tnis claim shOnld DC turned over to
"A company the management Of which should
be in The hands gentlemen personally known TO the
Government, and entitled their records 10 the cOnI-
dslIce the Government Gneaning our GOVcfnmcnt).
On these conditions. the hearty support OF the
uited states Government could DC relied on lie further
declared that this clam must not be pressed III any
shylOCk spirit enormous as was; ihat There was 10 b
eXUectOn that II should be necessarily realized, ana
that We b. content 10 accept what was reasonable
aud possible ia the premises and not pds II so lar thd
IL would tend 10 the permanent Gripping OF the Peru
Wan people.
reped generally that statement that there not
one OF those suggestions about conditions which we
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