New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-08-25
PLANS OF THE DEMOCRATS
CHANCES OF UNION Disclosed.

SARATOGA, Aug 24.-Ihe number Of politicians
here this simmer would naturally lead the general
public TO believe that ofhce-hoding is very paying
business or else that there is great uncertainty in
regard to the action of the coming state COnvea-
tions. Democrats IN particular have been numerous
at the "SprngsD those representing Iammany
outnumberiug those Of anv other faction. John
Kelly with bis family can be found almost any
morning evening AT one end Of the piazza IL front
of the Grand Union Hotel in frequent c0nyersa-
ton with him can be seen Sachcn Edward Kearney.
Register DOcharty. Senator Grady, James J. Mar
tin. Commissioner Nichols. who makes occasional
visits here. ex-Alderman John Rey ex-Sherid
Bernard Reilly and other greater or lesser lights Of
the organization. Augustus >chell was here for n
few days but he was not seen IN company with any
of the Tammany followers. Mr Schel has not at
tended the Tammany meetings sGce Mr..
Kelly bossomed out as an Anti-Monopolst.
and the talk has been that he Was d.ssstis-
fed with the course Mr. Kelly took in this matter.
The leaders of the County Democracy. Ia trying tn
find some way by which they could elect the head
of their ticket in the city this year, have gone
so far as TO consl Ter the feasibility Of nominating
Mr.. Sche for Mayor order - catch Tammanv
votes But they have found that Mr. Schell would
not suit them. The great aim of the County De-
mOcracy leaders Is TO elect a Mayor who will reap
point Hubert o. Thompson Commissioner Of Public
Works and name satisfactory persons as
successors to Controller Campbell and Corporation
Counsel Whitney and for the 9th important places
which the next Mayor will have to ill., now held by
County Democrats. Mr.. Schell would not agree un-
der any circumstances to reappoint Mr. Thompson.
and that ended the consideration Of his nams. " In
point Of fact" said a County Democracy leader to-
day, although would like to unite upOn local
ticket a Mayor, coald not agree upon Mr.
Schell because he is much Of a Tammany man.
He insists that John Kelly Is a thoroughly honest
man"
Senator Koch ex-senator Bixby. James OBneu,
Martin Brown, ex-Alderman Shiels, Judge Brady,
Police Justice White aud other politicians
frequently form groups about the hotel piaz.
zas and disclose great political wisdom in
discussing the situation. General Slocum and
| other Brooklyn politicians occasionally add dignity
TO these gatherings while W. c. RuQer, Of Syracuse.
Francis Herman, of Utica, and other statesmen
from the Interior have been among the recent visit
ors who come with the intention OF pouring oil on
the troubled waters.
Great anxiety has been exhibited by some OF tho
| Tlden leaders to learn whether or not Iammany
Will send delegation to the Anti Monopoly COnven-
ton TO meet here September 49, and Il not whether
! it will send one to tn Democratic
Convention al syracuse on September u. sur
| prsing exhibition of interest IN the movements OF
| Tammany Hall has been shown OF late by these
| Tilden leaders. some Of them have gone 50 far as
70 assure Tlmmany leaders that II they viii send
delegation 20 Syracuse it Will be admitted and al
! lowed half Tie vote of New-Yor> City in the
vention. whether Mr. Iilden likes It or not. Evil
dence of this apparent feeling has come from differ
| ent pars of the State since the Anti Monopoly
Convention was called. Mr.. Kelly, however, is too
old politician to be dupad in this way He knows
what Mr. TlJens intentions are. and that the pur-
pose Is TO prevent Tammany from taking anypar in
| the Anti-Mou0poly Convention. IN which case the
! Tilden leaders will use the glucose-oleomargarne
machine III their interests.
| It is not likely that Tammany VIII fall into the
TIldcn trap By sending deleg tion TO the Syracuse
! Convention. If h 1ammany delegation goes there
1t is probable that il would be admitted in part,
prOviling the Tdcn leaders are quite sure OF nOmi-
mating their chosen candidate. In tAit event Tam
many would be committed to the sup
| port of the 1illen nominee. matter
how objcctonabe, and would be estopped
! from supporting an Autobiography nominee.
| Bat if Talnminy keeps away from Syracuse, rho
| Tilden leader viii be compelled To defer to Tam
! mauys wishes in naming ticket, or else 90 INTO
! the canvass With the certainty Of defeat Hence
! Tammauy vii have more influence on, Of the con-
vention thau ii admtte So far tie iicket con-
cerncd And rs to tho regularity IL ha been de-
monstra ed thlt iammany isas strong without that
as with II.
A former leader in tie Tilien wing Of the party
| in the Interior Of the STATE who has -aken prom
nent part in recent years, slil tp-'.ly in a some
what do.eful manner that the outlook for the
! Democrats in the State this year about as bad
| as II could be- Il do not see daylight
| ahead" be continued. Success without TamHdny
| IS impossible aud do not believe We can do any
| thing that will bring rs Tammanv's support with
out losing the woes OF AN equal ninb'r OF Anti
Tam,n,ny Democrats The fac is tha, Democratic
defeat this year will be beneficial 10 Iammany."
"In what way ~ was asked.
The County Democracy has no sound basis as
an organ zatiou. lis leaders are jealous OF each
Other and only work together because of the cohe-
slye power of the patronage they control II the
Democrat AT. defeated this year, and the Repub-
cans elect the next Mayor Of Ncwvorl. it will TAXI
from the County Democracy about al NJ its patron
age. and that VIII end the or
Qanization. But Tammany has demonstrated thai
1t can 1--we without patronage. Next year II will 6e
the only Democratic organization m New-fork CITY
of any account If the part, is defeated this year
AID unless the party wants 20 90 on IN the samo
! way in the future, Kelly and Iammany Will have
to Dee ecog,izcd AMI treated rs the pr'gai son OF
old instead ol being nsulred they were last year
and again at the meeting Of the State Committee
this year."
1t Is generally agreed here that the Ant-MQnoDoly
ConveAtion without Tammany's support Will be a
small affair in ecd. II is probable however. that
the 1ammauy 70 lowers viii be here delegates,
though nor coniag IN 10, name of Tam-lany Hall.
THa TRIBUNE correspondent made inquiries OF Mr.
Kelly on this point recently, and .e said;
THE call for ,he Alt-Aoaopoly toay 'n.ion only
invites the Monopoly Leagues 70 send del ga'es
That does not include Tammany Hail. and OF
course It Will not send delegation
r..
But do not many Of the members oI Iammahy
! belong to Auti-N -Nlonoa,ly Leagues =
| ". rearl, all # them IN the various assembly