New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-01-04
mits this internin able case TO be reopened 1t VII
be Just cause of asonlsbment.
THE FULL REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS.

brother whispered 10 him TO dry up" and when he had
reached the dock, broke out with had very happy
New Years hope everybody else did had plenty OF
visitors-hghtoned. iddleoned and lowtoned people
II takes the whole crowd. showing the public OPINION
They done any of them want hung. They were very
glad me. and expressed the opinion without one
dissenting voice, that would be acquitted
Dr. Gray, of Utica, further cross-eXamned by Mr.
scovillo.
o-Is vour opinion that the prisoner the
"a of July based your inability TO discover any IN
dcaton that his brain diseased A.-Based on the
whole examination OF the and represented mere
10 me also ia the hypothetical questions, there Was no
inability present There no brain disease present
Odd you not answer your direct examination
that the prisoner was sane July q Al did,
anC answer now.
Q-What was the basis of that opinioni A-That
question was connected with asking OF the hypohet
question, involving what was supposed TO be the
ground for the opinion whether the prisoner was
insane.
Q-was your opinion based wholly on the hypotheti-
cal question Any opinion in answer to the hypo-
thetcal question based wholly ON that
FOR some time M Scovle continued TO question the
witness the ground on which he based his opinion
endeayoying get the witness to admit that 1t was
part testimony OF the prisoner when on
the stand, but the witness wary, and Mr. scovLe
failed to accomplish his purpose.
The witness declined to answer categorically any OF
the questions propounded to him, and when Mr. sooye
demonstrated with him he stated that he did not propose
own words. He proposed to give his own testimony,
and not let counsel give for him. He oath and
proposed 10 follow that rule.
Q.-SuppOse man in public place shoots, without
adequate motive another in the presence OF largo
number people would that fact be any evidence of in
sanyl A.-NOt the slightest The words apparent
motive have no particular meaning.
The witness stated, in TO questions that the
regulation of the diet, regular hours and rest were i'm
portant OF the insane. Under
such treatment insane patient might recover within
three four months.
Q.-WOud there be anything TO show that he was in
four months beforef A-Not without the history
Q-what Is "kleptomania - A word used TO ex-
press thieving. don't believe in It, don't believe in
any Of the so-caled moral insauties." believe they
crimes.
Q.-What DO you by dpsOnlania"i A.-sOmo
people call such tendency habit CT drinking call it
drunkenness. don't call 1t insanity.
Q.-What do you mean by "pyromana ~ A-The
burning Of houses l call it inceldiarism. l call it
crime
The witness having characterized one OF Mr. ScOve's
questions frivolous the prisoner exclaimed Your
idea that cannot be insane without the brain be-
ing diseased ia rather frivolous. You and the Saviour
don't agree that subject You had better study spirit
Ology. You viii get new light then"
Q-suppose that person believed that he was called
of Lord certain act OF violence, that his edu
cation such that he led to obey and that under
conviction should do the act would you consider
such person to be Of sound minif A.-IihOu,d not
consider such a person necessarily insane
Q-Suppose he believed That he had alternative but
DO the will Of the Lord, and that he not able men
tally tor,sis it, SO that with him grinding pres
sure would his doing evidence OF insanity
A-No there Is no evidence OF disease in it. II would
. be simply extreme fanaticisu
Q-Is il a insane people have sometimes
u such periods Of sanity that dihcut detect any
evidence o. nsautvi A.-There such cascs-caed
in class periodical cases III another paroAysmal
cases.
Here the tedious CROSS examination closed. The !
prisoner kept remarkably quiet this morning not inter
ruptlng than three four times-Once with the |
information that Humpty Dunpy wanted lis auto !
graph.
At the request OF the Disrict-Attorney the witness
gave brief descriptions Of the various cases which had
come under his observation whore insane persons had
tcd homicide One Of these cases was that Of a
man who had hilled his wife with under the de
fusion that he the face OF God in the axe and heard
a voice commanding him to do the act In all these
tho insanity very marked independent Of the
dclusIOu.
The District Attorney stated that he Thought he had
concluded the examination Of the witness, ont desired 10
look over Lis during recess which then, at
1890 o'clock. taken for half an hour
THE GOVERNMENT TESTIMONY CONCLUDED
After the Dr., Cray again calea 10 be stand
and further Intercepted by M sooyle But there was
nothing developed As lac left the stand the
Distrct-Attomcy announced that that cqQcluded the
testimony for the Government.
Mr.. scoyiue stated that the defence was somewhat
surprised by the Government not calling witnesses
persons in the employment OF the Government and who
were position TO know more than any other persons
as to mental condition of the prisoner at the time OF
the occurrence The defence woud consider this even
ing what should be taken and would the Court
know
Dr. : p. Bowker. OF Kansas City, No, called TO
the stand on the part OF the defence lie tt iVed az
IeadVlc Cul whore he had been acquainted with Mrs
Dunmirc the divorced wife Of the prisoner He related
@ on 4e! he h9 VIII Dsf oe a M 6ad
not the divorce from the prisoner at ner own
wish or ,Iou but at The earnest alton OF
friends she had wished dcfer the mat
until there could be further deyC Opmcntsln ms men
fa condition She said she feared she might done
him M, innsce by getting a divorce under his mental
condition. She expressed frequently her fear that lie
WIS mentally dcranced or dsordered time she
but ii under discussion Ill her mind ana she feared
II might he
on crosse animation, the witness stated that he had
previously attended Mrs. Duumrc IN the cdpaciy OF
ynvsican and that the relaO had been those existing
further stated that he had seen Mrs Dunmlre in Wash
inctou and being anxious TO return home wished her to
admit in Mr. scOyie's presence the substance OF what
ne " s1sr 20 3i her husband refused to do so
The prsOnCr-There is vast amount OF rubbish getting
into this wouldn't give cent Gushel LOT the
expert testimony and would not give nail cent q
bu5hel Tor all TINS tax.
a question to whether the witness, who had
returned nome with the understanding Mrs. Dan
mire would deny conversation. aud VINO had been
required to come back TO Washington, should be paid
his fees for the second time.
Judge Cox stated tDat he would hear argument on
that point immediately alter the adjournment,
Clark Mills sculptor who had taken plaster cast
or head the prisoner called TO the stand and
Mr.. scOvi,le about TO eAamine hin, wAen MI Da-
vidge objected on the ground that tne question Oh ihSah
had been. should have been, ut exhausted ana
could be reopcned The cast had been USED ana
had been admitted As "A genuine east
After argument the objection was sustained
Here tue prisoner broke ont, sa}iucTnls head buSi-
is rather Dry SUBJECT nave GOT i'tter mere
from OF General OaruoIds Old ehls IN OIo IL Is
worth than twen,y leads 10 show the dit OF p&D-
Hr Dlyidge rose aud said tlat this interruption had