New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-04-25
NETWORK DAILY TRIBUNE. TUESDAY, APRIL %, 1857

gherever found and that ownership could never be
eyrngushed or limited save by his own action ehi
ID roatIv oh0e me n Will state whether MT sup
Ford lad anv authority Tor attubnng these opinions 10
Won II will be special favor II You VIII answer ny IL
' Tn iha a letter received tho following reply, dated on
Anril Is: Your favor Of 18th INST post marked l'th
! has ms moment renched me You give TWO passages
from y letter said 10 have been written D vi InlPPc
Commiriee on Foreign Affairs, in August last, TO Mills ,
ter Hurbut. PurPorlug 10 So Iso Give n tIiri
ma@sagc which Won cay Mr. Shpherd authorized another
psrson 10 1noic IA an opinion gwen BY me- IN rterence
whether Mr. Shphcri nad any authority l9r
these opinions 10 you ne ihese I1" H hh.rd had
relate to the socalled Cochet claim aiu , ,non
mo- authority from me To attribute 10 me ihr5s "piD
or either OF Them or any plrt OF tng tbe cochet
given an opinion 10 any person concerning ,mo cnn
clan, or any por,on' hov OK any e eaTs given
an opinion to MI shipher or any person com i,,
nectei with him on any jcct. / have never hhpWh
rssnp of having ever he rd ~ him or the Cochet
claim except through the public prints ana lheIc oJ
sailed for Europe for the purpose OF attending me
International Monetary Conference In lrs as one OF
ni',tss nf oilr Government the oh OF April Lst
vcar and Landed my return from thaI errai on t,o
5h OF september last since ny reI nn,ru reai
ing to the soclled Peruvian company DrioIe tno i ~
firm of Evarts SOuthmald ~ Choate desiring neh 20
act az counsel for that company This they dccn'd 40
/ do and person in any way connected Witi p r a
otherwise had to do with Mr.. ohpherd' thc lerullnn
Compauy or the Cochct claim, as lar ~ ko" OF nave
Mr. shipherd quoted these alleged opinions OF nlri
Evnrts without any qualification Ia ms letters seVel
times | was de-irors IN e pursuit OF MI 2HpH I
character IA truth teller to make suhuI anu i,
| other Inquiries and / wrote the following iet-
ter TO MI Elmore the Peruvian Minister on April ~
beg 10 call your attention to letter OF 1I JcoD H.
shipherd to General stephen ~ Hnr'pu y, WI
10 1851 published In executive document no " mtl
YOU he good enough 10 whether Mt 5hPhord truth
univ relates therein ths Inc dents OF his alleged inter
EST wren Tdpy you am in receipt your letter
of to-day, ealing my G a.ten,ion s.c,bcn A
IInrlbu of September 49, 1881. published on page "a ol
House OF eprc seniatves executive document o9' Pae
fpt,rr
whether Mr.. shipherd truthfuy relates t"eren inc
Incidents OF his Interview with IN reply beg 10 say
thar have carefully read Mr.. Sphcld's letter when
| surprised and amused me extremely, aud ,hat t
! with tine exception OF the two facte first, tlht
did see him once being introduced az hs reYeatc re-
qncsl by my colleague senior simon Oomach"l nl i'i
puoc contracts Of the 9oclete GenerIe de GrtIt IN
dustriel ct Commercial Win Peru lwic 'i ~
To him, ohiphcrd that ic'u anu I l,t,iicc
! President Caldcron committed to d legal p'HIc'
honorable financial PLAN, every statement haue .! 'n
with respect TO me l. cntlrcly IilHr' ,,.. ,-,-
az 81 hope you gave no crcdence to the sIy St"If
thar had any knowledge of your making Il maIr'Hls
note OF H. steve, or u any other words On one I'll
your dispatches" , .,iit oi.nroofs
of matters which Mr.. Shpnerd has sworn 10 ID 'nis
room. If there any siren gh IA the statutes anu
him which tue President greed in December li should
shield him. he ought 10 be sen. 20 {r @I nnv ii
ipf,rvirw vim Mr. snpilrrd na, not noticed that
Won supplemented by yOM Own statement as - t"o
Mr. BiYnn very empha,icalIyi-It was abaou tc.
wholeclOth. actrstablr lie iLnusEterl ....,,
Ihe cnalrnan-ILar covers tnc ground lConunlcd
laughtcrJ
suIPHEED COUNTED OF UN5OUND MIND.
Mr. B,ane-ir not. viii aGd lew words more. II
did seem TO ne this really ont Of bis mind
do not Ia nk indeed thai Sbipcrc can De accounted
man of sound mind. do not now rcsarl him IS IA man
OF sound mind. If / did. should regard him IA an
extremely wi, ked man. The idea that man ia his verJ
first interview with thc Secretary osae. With United
states Senator bis next friend Introducing bin, aud
with number % ilustrlous gentlemen bis counsel
with prominent banAers and busncss m'n as Dol, hls.
mes. a..ncatc-, snOu.d tell the secretary th1t Ie hdd
snoothei way or the nterpo-iu2n oil Inc Govern
mcnt by Offering a eflUe ~ lug 4',L''' G't
would carry 1t ont 'Ai T.r W., rol 1l1l
however concerning which desire 10 d'tain the com
mittee moment, tnd DO IL rom d. '''o % J','S 10
city on May ~ last think he vas nominated on tut'
DAY. and tie next day one day ma he was o'iii.u
hr left urned ne 2ith ahd eft again Oh th' 2e,
winch was sat urdly llc was III NeF-fOrk on SUNDAY
ana Monday and ths interview which Mr. 5hipherl de-
tls at .rea length tool place May 30 the interview
in rel detail what the President had instructed him
dressed to General HuriDut on May 20 letter stating
thai he had sent to the President lull set Of papers
connected with his scheme, aud MAT hc would IKE an
early personal interview with Mr. llurlbuL To that nc
say received telegram "'ied on Nay ~ from Mr..
Inrlbut, saying that he NOlu be al the tith Avenue
the Fifth Avenue Hotel on 4loniay that ne recosnNed
Mr. Hurbut instantly and thai MI IuliDnt ca' huV
name rccO, orDg him also nat hc invited Dlu l" SOM
convenient sofa anu mat pong seat.u ~ "u I
conversation with this remark "Bni, DIT. ohiphtlI
that Mr. IiurDu sIaod '-Gt ne nnd p9o,,
sent to tell him that the President regarded ll,r.,
paper- as being rs strong case both ia aw and equity
a. could well be made that In" hrst dihcuiy IN
the President went On ~ say ihai tine chin eh1uu p
put slch form that the owner should ultimately real
tze what was just without imposing harssi upon Peru
r w. iid.n,niiy 10 nli and 10 gct ont from under
tnc heel of Chill that in such case tue can5 should pc
turned TO company, etc; ara iba on lncSt coh-
diiion- The hearty support Of United ottes Govern
nj lie II a
from tue President OF the United states accord
inc 70 Mr. snipheld's oath. Now Mt Chairman, OF
r',,rSr when the PRINCIPAL PERSONS are their
gra,e e., il Is very difficult g. criab7a negative Lut
IRON incrcnua proof here, not ONLY th"t the
President never said one word o. s nut that tAc utf
which Shhed says he vfote to General llniiDu hes,I
was wrtien. The whole statement Onhcyc 90 Zoe false
from beginning to end. And Wi give !"" j reasons
la this ctter General unl9ut being in Washington
Shphcrl says YESTERDAY sem 10 ne 5''Itlly Ul
STATE a duplicate set tor your own u,c' l. Is hard.y
conceivable that with tht letter ia las nhht- Gehel"
urlbu would not ca at the state Department ioi TIE
matter referred to.
THE RETcEYCE OF GENERAL HURLBUT.
know Tint tine subject passed the lips % Con
eral HuIlbut from 20 him, tor AZ that time
never had heard of the subject There were only two
places he could u.S, applied Ter those papers
Any ne " y appointed Minister not familiar with the
state Department would come directly to the Secretary.
Hufibut had been would go to ne chlrt CLERK "loHl
bothenng tue secretary. therefore went to tl e
go 'o If me- had any RECOLLECTION wnnf,ver of Cen
erAl fiurlbut apply ing to ln 10 rae Department fo
these papers. Mr. Brow II, la reply tO my inquiry, sont
me The blowing nOic da ed April -: M answer To
Your verbal inquiry OF day beg state thar when
Genera, IIurbut ia tntA city waiting iOI his COM
mission and Instructions Minister TO Peru. have no
recollection Of his ever asking Tor any documents nj
legged 10 have been left for bun al thc Department by
Mr. Shphcrd. All such documents would necessarily
pass through the Office pf me chief clerk
Mir. HurDut undoubtedly IN New-Iork on May
30 for among the arrlS published Ia IIE NEW
YORK. IRIBUSE his conspicuous 40 the Firth
AVcnue Hotel That just enough tur Mr.. Shiphcrl
evidently there. met AIM ~ me hall, and,T he
says, they sat down upon convenient sore. Iha W0uu
be extraordinary way 10 conduc. Gn interview that
was prciaccd By "a formal letter Washington ihcy sat
upon tie sofa, and there the Pr stirnts whole
aeheme Is narrated at great length be
thr eVlla Of he