Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1882-04-21
Hur,bert,s Examinations .

Hurlbert's Termination.
WASHINGTON, April 20-Wm. Henry Huri-
bert appeared before the foreign affairs COM
mittee this morning. The clerk read from
Shepherds testimony this description OF the
interview between himself (Shipherd) and
Hurlbert, in which the latter is accredited
with saying that he had seen and had In his
hands dispatch from Blaine to Minister
Hurlbut on which was written marginal
note .Go in, Steve" or "Go it, Steve. .
Witness said: The whole narrative OF this
|.conversation with me was an absolute and
profound Misrepresentation of the facts. he
sought an interview with me, and states
his case, and gave me long narrative OF his
relations with Blaine and complained bitterly
that he had not been well treated by the score
tary. There is no truth in his statement that
told him that had seen such dispatch
with marginal note. The story he gives OF
the instructions sent to the old admiral with
a contrary construction upon the margin was
story I recognized as having heard before.
he repeated this story in highly dramatic
manner. and it seemed likely that Blaine might
have told him the story, but never gave him
the slightest intimation that had seem dis
patch with a marginal note. Shipherd has
completely confused the real facts OF the incl.
was INV expression in my inter
view with Shipherd that Secretary
Blaine had taken this method OF indication
that the marginal note might have been sent
To suppliment or complete the instructions
Contained in the body OF the dispatch: The
Peruvian minister first related the incident 70
me. He said that in conversation Win tne
secretary he complained to him tine secretary
that the department or governimepps aau s nUt
such instructions to Hurlbut as he (the Pe-
ruvian MINISTRY had expected and the impres-
sion I gathered was that Blaine had told the
Peruvian minister this incident to imply tnat
he had in the margin of this dispatch his real
views. which circumstances did not admit OF
his doing in constitutional manner IL was
simply an incident in my mlnd suggested oy
a conversation with the PERUVIAN munster ana
did not think of it again until the converse
ton with Shipherd, when his relation OF the
same story gave me the impression that
marginal note might have been MADE upon
the despatch to my brother. =,
Witness said his relations with Blaine were
of friendly character. He had had several
conversations with him. The secretary ialleo
to convince the witness that ne ltne secIet1alV
was carving out the policy OF President Gar
his ways and methods.
witness continued: The secretary always
appeared to me somewhat ID the nature OF a
political firt. As Democrat l never had
much faith in his methods though personally
liked him and my brother seemed 70 nave
great confidence in him. The last interview
Witness had with Blaine was about the 12th or
18th of December, Just before the publication
of the state department dispatches. In that
publication there was dispatch disappearing
his brothers. course Witness saw Blaine
several times between September and Decem-
her at no time did he 1.-THE secretary Indicate
that he disapproved OF his (witness) brotner's
course.
Witness received several letters from his
brother in which he alluded to the letter oil
approval, and he expressed something OF as
constituent and indignation.
Witness was asked if he had any vi these
letters with him, and he replied he had. he
then read the following letter from his
brother. Minister Hurlbut, dated Lima, Dec.
9, 1881.
The Gillian papers are full OF that internal
Shipherd and his pre'enses. They nave oeen
kicked out of this legation and out OF the
state department, but he is nuisance. /
hope Sam, Randall will call for all papers In
the department in reference to him and his az
fairs. 7 have sent all his letters back
to the department and l anxlously desire
that the correspondence be made pubic.
have fears, 1 hope not well grounded, thai our
government means to slide out OF the Ameri-
can position here. My personal talk
with Blaine and Garfield OF course VIII not
appear in any official correspondents, but IL
was the motive for my action. think they
will throw me overheard unless congress
backs up the American course have taken
here. Personally l care little about 1t, out
must say that in Blaine's letter Of the 22d OF
November to me was a manifest disposition 10
hedge.
Witness was asked if he could state what his
brothers. understanding of his Instruction were
and replied he understood that he was to have
elastic powers to carry out the policy begun
by Evaris; to bring about peace between Chill
and Peru to induce the South America Re
publics to cease war; to prevent the spoila-
ton of Peruvian territory being made CON
dition of the terms of settlement OF the difii-
culties between Chill and Peru.
In response to question witness said: 1
do not understand that Blaine showed dis
patch with q marginal note upon it to Gilmore,
the Peruvian minister, but simply related to
him the incident referred TO, to indicate IN
that way only he could do what he might
wish to do. Witness had heard that Corbin,
the brother-in-law of Gen. Grant, would haif
of the land claim.
Witness said in conversation with his brother
before the latter sailed to Peru no mention
was made of the Peruvian company. his
brother did refer to one Shipherd and said he
had been asked by President Garfield to see
Shipherd and look into his claim; also that he
had seen Shipherd and had received While IN
Illinois several letters from him, one oil whlcn
was brazen attempt at bribery, and that he
proposed to take them to Washington and
show them to the secretary. Witness advised
against this course, saying "you were advised
by the president to look after this malter. L
would advise you to take the letters TO feru,
get at the bottom of this matter, and then
send home to the government all you IND In
regard to it." ;.
Witness then added am not sure but 1t
might have been better for Blaine II my brother
had at that time shown him Shepherds letter.
Williams-How SOY
Witness-Because, If Blaine had seen that
letter he possibly might not have entertained
that person (Shipherd) so long, as it were, un-
awares, don't know what influence senator
Blair may have had, but from my knowledge
of Blaine should think he would have dis
missed him (Shipherd) at once from any
further consideration. $ :,
Witness continued: In general terms l
gathered that Blaine approved the plans OF
| the Credit Industrial in their EFFORT to ooviate
| the spolatiOn of Peruvian territory. A letter
of an extremely eminent American impressed
| that view. The letter was read to Blaine and
be cordially approved its sentiments. The
writer of the letter was Gen. Grant, and 1t was
addressed to the Peruvian minister, Gilmore,
with whom Gen. Grant had very pleasant
relations during his visit to China, Elmore
being at that time Peruvian minister at China.
Witness had requested copy OF this letter
and had brought it with him. At the request
| of the committee he then read the letter, as
| follows:
New York, Nov 1874 1S81.-My Dear Mr..
| Gilmore: am sorry was not in when you
called on the 18th. AS soon as 1 returned 10
the house read your letter and accompany
| ing papers and expected to see you at o'clock.
| My note being in verbal message was given
| to you to call at that hour, which you may
not have received. Since you were here Ihear
that President Calderon has been carried off
| to Chill as prisoner. hope this is not true.
What can say or do beyond expressing my