Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1882-04-10
SHEPHERDS EXAMINATION TODAY

SHlPHERUS EXAMINATION TU-UAY.
THE WITNESS CLOSELY PRESSED.
WHAT he SAYS OF GRANT AND coNkLINe.
| The examination OF Mr. shpherd was resumed
| by the foreign affairs committee at f0:45 this
mornfng-Chairman Williams presiding Repre-
sentative Bl0unt conducted the examination
Witness desired to answer fully any direct ques-
tions, but wished to avoid the appearance OF
volunteering anything In regard to Mr.. Blaine or
| anyone else.
| Questlon.-When you wrote TO Gen. Hurlbut,
septemper 18th, that you would ask that no
| OF administration, did you mean to intimate to
ann .naS tne Peruvian company would use its in
| Witness replied at length that he was politician
| and approached Gen. Hurlbut as a business man,
9rnevng mat II was properly part OF his official
| interests
Mr.: Blount then quoted from another letter Mr..
clear to work with us, you will ftnd me a t-re
partner" and asked: Did you not in this intend to
influence his Official action?
witness insisted that it meant what the entire
letter would imply; that MFR. HurlbUt should CO.
| onerate In general way in matter Viii IN was
expected 10 subserve the interests OF the entire
| Again Representative Blount quoted from an
oLher letter and asked what was meant In your
ma In us helpful friendship so long as ne liveS?"
Dld not this mean that he might expect TO be
TAKEN care or so long as he lived?
| Witness attempted to dodge the direct issue and
ciaimed that he was frank man and always said
What ne meant He said-turning his letters
inside out as they were being done-that fhe COM
muCee might see in connection with his evidence
mere, that ne was a frank man. The word
| partner" witness explained, did not mean a
4 n opl in hot
liberal sense In which every American would have
an interest IN the formation OF great an under
wan confidence witness said, was meant that
Peru In his official relations.
sAIPHERD ASKED WHAT HB MEANT BY SAYING
| "GRAkT .Is NOW ONE OF Us"
Representative Blount-Wbat did you mean In
your letter to Huribut by the words 'Grant is now
one OF us7"
Witness had regretted the use OF that term, but
It was written when he (wItnesS) was In a great
ctsely what their relations were. In September
ne 6hiphe.d) had a talk OF an hour with Gen.
Grant In discussing the affairs OF the Peruvian
ana expressed his views freely and at length 1
toia MIN our people desired TO put him at the head
about these wonds:~"I shall not at present con.
slider any proposition to become pecunarily inter-
ested in your company, but not hesitate TO give
AMI after some II. der discussion he remsrSed:-
" Mr. Shipherd. It will make no difference whether
am stockholder or not; should do nothing for
you, whether were a stockholier or not. other
Than TO help you In securing from the government
en,,Sss ena and aid to which you are justly
In reply 70 further inquiry, witness said Gen.
Gr1nt never was stockhOlder, but, feeling that
tn If stokholder he WINS IN 1Sre Srs
letter TO Gen. Hurlbut had spoken or Gen. Grant In
| That Way IS being ''one OF u.s."
As TO Mr.. CONKLIN0.
Witness asked in rao ri to asr rou,,r,-,o
whether there was any foundation for connecting
hiS name as counsel, ana replied: 1t having been
decided TO tender Mr. Conkling retainer, Senator
Blair wrote TO him and made the tender After
wards Judge Lord wrote second letter to Senator
ConSLng, and rsceiv.i reply that he had re-
ceived Senator Btair's letter and the documa ants
Judge Lord afterwards saw Senator Conkiing who
told him that he had received Senator Blairs
letter ami had examined the paners. and w no
reason Why he should not accept a retainer
Witi.es5 subsequently saw Mr.. Conking, who re-
cpl'ed MIN cordially and discussed with him the
Affairs OF the company. Witness told him there
was 1t that time no occasion for his professional
| {witness> should tender him retainer. To this
NJ, MI: Ceakilng replied, pleasantly, II shall be
NO RErAIsER OFFERED W. T. CHANDLER.
Witness was then askei was any retainer ever
| rendered Nv. Wla K. Chardler7
AnsWer.-At the tine that letter was written ft
was thought best to tender him retainer but
shls was aftere rts reconsidered and no retainer
Was ever Oheress him.
CONFIDENTIAL CORRESPONDENCE"
Reading further from Shepherds letter to Hurl-
but, Mr.. Biount asked who were the parties with
whom you say you were holding confidential cor
| respondencea
Witr ess defined to answer intlmating that the
committee were exceeding the range of their In
vestigaton and obtruding upon purely private
matters
As 10 SENATOR BLAIR
Witness stated that he was frst introduced to
Senator Blair by ex-senator Cragin, but declined
to state whether he advised by the latter gen.
tleman to employ Senator Blair. He (wftnessS had
several reasons for desiring to secure Senator Blair
as counsel, primarily because he believed that
Senator Blair could induce the Secretary to give
the matter prompt attention.
expect you to quote. the Secretary when he told
you to quote him strong7 and replied having no
access to the Senator's mind cannot state. Wit
ness here took occasion to make general defence
of his correspondence, asserting with emphasis
that he dealt only In facts and with absolute cam
aor; 1nat ne ~ was as willing to NIKE his correspond
truthfulness.
SENATOR BIAIR's RETAINER
Witness declined to state what sum was paid as
retainer to Senator Blair; the exact amount was
returned by him Blair) early in November, sew
eral weeks before the assembling OF Congress
THE LATE MINISTER HURLBUT.
Representative BlOunt then asked IL witness had
anything further to ofTer in justification OF his
charge that Minister Hurlbut had been Influenced
against the Peruvian company by the Credit In
duStrieL
Mr.. Shfpherd replied at some length, to the effect
that he had already been charged with pursuing
ala attack upon the reputation Of dead man, and
he did not care to go further or say anything that
was not directly in the line or his own Justifica-
tiOn. The question was not pressed and the COM
mittee adjourned at 10 minutes past IL O'Clock to
half past teno'clock tomorrow morning.
Affairs i'm West Washington.
LUMBER FROM cALIFoRNIA.-Jos- j. Z. Lib
bey, lumber merchants, here have received a car
load OF California redwood shipped by rail direct
from San Francisco, Cal. It was about three
weeks on the way. This is the flrst car load OF
lumber that ever came through direct from San
Francisco to Washington.
EASTER CELEBRATIONS were held by the Sunday
schools Of all the Episcopal churches here yester-
day afternoon, the Easter offerings In all being
very handsome. At the St. Johns church, q num-
Der OF prizes consisting OF books Bibles, etc, were
presented by the pastor to scholars.
FISH MARKEH20. 600 herring sold at to 8; $500
shad at 8 to IL; 1000 taylors. i to cents.
HIGH TIDR.-April H. III am ]: 40 pm.