New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-08-08
THE TROUBLED DEMOCRACY.
THE FUTILE TALK AT SARATOGA.
LEADERS MAKING BETTING LIVELY AT THE RACES
THE CITY SENATORS URGING HARMoNY-T1IDEN
To RULE THE STATE CONVENTION.

THE CITY SENATORS URGING HARM0NY-TIIDEN
To RULE THE STATE CONVENTION.
lBY TELEGRAPH TO THE TRIBUNE.l
SARATOGA Aug 1.-The Democratic leaders con-
tlnue to gather here. Notwithstanding the fact that
there is no apparent reason for their coming
Nicholas Haughton, Thomas Dunlap, Cap" Reilly
and about twenty other supernumeraries from the
city arrived to-day while Brooklyn sent con-
tingent under the lead of Assemblyman Stanley.
Ex-senator Herman of Utica; Henry Tilden, of
Lebanon Springs Senator II. c. Nelson, of Sing
Sing; j. Stanley Brown. of Otsego, Mayor Murphy.
of Troy; Senator James Stevens, Of Rome; w. A.
Poucher Of Oswego; w. S. McCuue, of Buffalo !;
Lester B. Faulkner, and great MANY others came
tonight.
The Democrats who have arrived here within
the last three days now number 125 almost
half as many as there are delegates to their
convention. In the day time they nearly all attend
the races, where they make betting very
lively and leave good deal Of money that rightly
belongs to tue taxpayers of New-York City. At
night large proportion of them can be found at
Morrsseys old club house sitting arou3d
gaming tables. Members of the Legislature
Aldermen. Judges, Commissioners and city
officials of various kinds can be found at this
place at almost any hour of the night.
If photograph could be taken of the groups to be
campaign document
Senator Days conference met again tonight, but
only the six New-York Senator'S were present. Sen
ator Boyd has not been here, while the other State
Senators kept away from the meeting tonight be-
il has been so much laughed at and also it
related only to New-York City matters. Senator
Grady made q short speech in which he
said that the interests of the taxpayers,
mot of the elevated railways" demanded
that the Democratic party should pool
its issues and fight the common enemy. He there
fore moved the adoption Of resolution " that
the Democratic Senators from New-York again re-
iterate their desire for harmony, and respectfully
urge on the state Central Committee the adoption
of such place for the state Convention and the
selection of such a ticket will command tho APP
proval of thoughtful Iaen and secure the cordial
support OF the entire party"
Senator Fitzgerald said that, speaking for the
County Democracy, no fully accorded with the
spirit Of tho resolution and seconded it. Senator
Dalyregreted that no definite conclusion could
be reached but that doubt might be entertained
hereafter of the position of the Senators present. he
asked each one to afix his signature to tho resolu-
ton which was done, and the great conference adj
iourned sine die.
Ii Is settled now that the committee will listen
tomorrow evening to such speeches as may be made
on behalf of delegations present and then adopt
call for the State Convention and adjourn. AS W.
Burke Cochrane and other ward politicians from the
city, who represent nobody but themselves,
have come here to deliver their old harangues,
it is certain that the committee will be
well bored to no purpose. The sentiment is in favor
Of an early Convention, for various reasons. as
stated by Mr. Faulkner and others. First, the DEM
ocrats want the campaign National issues,
fI.arTc flft.f
on State issues with Governor Cornel's vetoes to
contend with and Convention before the ReDubli-
cans meet will better enable them, they believe to
fix the issues. Then short campaign is
taken up with local matters to tho neg
lect Of the State ticket, and it doesn't
give time to answer tho charges made by
Republicans. As to the place of holding the Con-
vention that is uncertain but Albany and Rochester
are the most discussed tonight.
1t is settled that Tammany will not be admitted
to the State Convention "The only bunder we
can make,n said Henry Tilden to-day. lis to show
a willingness to compromise with Tammany Hall"
MIR. Hewitt will bo nominated for Governor, if not
opposed by Tlden, in which case Edward Cooper
will probably be taken. Flower. Cleaveland and
all candidates not dstlnctiyely in sympathy with
Tllden are absolutely ruled out. The TIlden Demo-
Gratis in New-York want candidate VINO Will
help their local ticket, which can best be done by
Keeping rammany outside of the regular OrganIza-
ton There Is prospect that the Labor Conven
tion at Buffalo September H. and the Anti
Monopoly Convention may nominate f. "A. COnk/
ling as their candidate for Governor, and THIS
tronbles the IIlden leaders somewhat.
Judge Brady, of the Supreme Court, has been
very active III trying to harmonic matters here.
tie submitted plan to the leaders of all factions
that one set of primaries be called
i'm New-York, at which each faction
should be allowed 10 name one inspector, TO
preside the balotDOxes and count the votes at
each polling place, and tnat III this way only one
set of delegates would be sent to the convention.
All factions agreed to this except the County
Democracy and Judge Brady finally gave up IN
disgust Mr. Kelly said tonight: " do not think
the members of the County Democracy came here
does NOT want any Democratic Governor elected
while he lives. He wants it to bo thought
that he is the only Democrat tnat
can carry the State while at the same time he Is
afraid to run as a candidate. | do not think am
many II all would support Edward Cooper, who is
most Objectionable man, or any candidate IKE
him. if nominated by the Tilden Convention. We
do not care to send delegation to the Convention
TO DO insuted again. We were cheated once, and II
we are again, that will be our fault. DO not think
the MonopOiis ists have decided yet whether or
NOT 10 hold a convention. The Labor movement is
likely to be a very formidable affair If properly
managed"
Mayor Grace says that he has examined the sys-
tenn of the County Democracy primaries ana that
thew are open and fair to all Democrats. EX-Sen-
ator Cauidwell says that when The Democrats get
down to talking commOn-sense he Will urge the
name of " aldo Hutchns for Governor. Ex-senator
Herman is for harmony