Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1882-05-05

Witness then read draft Of instructions which
6hipherd wished to have sent to Mr. Kilpatrick
It was much briefer, and informed Mr.. Fitzpatrick
that the instructions sent to Mr.. Hurbut were In
Tended likewise for him. Witness was not sure
made.
Shipherd sent him (Blair1 copy which he tBiair)
showed to Mr. Blaine. The latter declined how
ever TO make any use OF them, or do more than
ne had indicated In his instructions already given.
THE ATTITUDE OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
Representative Wilson read from Sh hipherd's tes-
ttmony as to the understanding arrived at-during
the interview with Mt. Baine-relative the attf-
tude OF the United States toward the Chili-Peru
matter.
Witness replied: "The attitude of the State de-
partment was never stated in my presence any
June"
In further reply to Representative Blount. wit
ness SAID ne did not care to say that Mr.. Shipherd
had wIllfully misrepresented him. The commit
Tee had seen more OF Mr.. Shipherd than he (Blair)
his mind. So far as his (Blairs) expressions were
concerned, he had been misrepreSented. He (wit-
ness me- had never put things In so strong light as
MT. ShlpnerdS very hopeful nature had probably
conceived.
Representative Blount then quoted from Ship
THE SUBJECT OF BRIBTNG HURLBuT
had been mentioned I'm Mr.. Blaine's presence, and
the remark Of Mr. Blaine, 81 don't think that Will
fetch him.
Witness did not hear any such conversation:
luTJneT stated tnaJ at the time he
the letter-whch is now spoken of as having been
written by Mr.. CamachO-waS written by Mr..
Tracy, the Peruvian consul in New York, who
looked upon this plan OF raising the required in
demnity as the only way to save his country.
THE LETTER TO Mr. ARIzoLA.
Representative Blount then read at some length
from the letter to Mr.. Arizola, and asked If he
(Blair understood that to correctly state the Atti
tude OF this country at that time.
Witness supposed that any American company
entering into contracts with the Peruvian govern
ment would have the
ment As to the United States staying the hand
OF Chilli, witness supposed II the indemnity was
Of Chill.
Q-"was not Mr.: Arlzola the agent Of the Peru
Wan company at Lma?"
Al never heard or knew that the Peruvian
company had any agent at Lima"
Representative Blount-" Did you not see this
letter, and was it not submitted TO you because
you were the counsel OF Mr.. Shipherd?"
Al had nothing whatever to do with
Its Preparation, and did not know any part of it
till after 1T was sent / presume, OF course, it
SoHn would & not have been shown to me unless had
O." Would you have continued as coun-
sci If you had the entire letter before it was
sent? Was 1t not gross Misrepresentation Of the
Witness replied that some portions OF the letter
stated the case much more strongly than was cor
rect. II he (Shipherd) meant by the highest au-
thority the State department, witness thought it a
dana Re witness M @ was not prepared to
man who had once been his client
THE LANDREAU CLAIM.
Representative Blount then took up the Lam
dreau claim, and called attention to the report
upon this claim by the law officer Of the State de-
partment, and asked II witness believed from that
report that the claim was Sucn one as could eX-
pect the kind offices OF this government
Witness replied that his information In regard
10 the Lardreau claim was based upon the report
OF the House OF Representatives. His attention
had not been specially called to it until this inves
tton began.
Representative Blount-But do you think Lam
dreau could expect this government to recognize
before he became a citizen?
Al am not prepared to answer that
wholly in the negative. 1t is certainly whiting
down American citizenship pretty fine. III man
becomes citizen and has property at the time.
and this government Will not protect him In that
property because 1t was acquired before he be-
came an American citizen, would not give much
for American citizenship.
Several further questions were propounded, rela-
tive to the action taken by Congress in regard to
the Landreau claim.
Witness considered that Congress had given an
expression OF opinion that ft was matter for the
Executive to call to the attention of Peru for the
purpose OF having it adjudicated.
Representative Rice desired to ask question.
"l ou, In your first statement, said you were
vinced OF the justice of the Cochet clafm?"
Al did not mean as to the amount but
that there was justice at the bottom OF it,"
Q.-"I want to know upon what you, as
i iaWyeT base S favorable Judgment upon the val
A.-"The guano OF Peru was worthless to
her UNTIL through the efforts and discoveries OF
Cochet, the guano became known as a fertilizer
and subject OF commerce and a source Of i'm
mense wealth to Peru. Landreau discovered beds
OF guanO where it was not before known to exist.
guanO. AS TO the fact that some compensation
should be made for these discoveries, think any
ialr mind would assent; as to the amount do not
assume to say"
The hearing was then, at ten minutes OF /, ad-
1ourned till 10 am. tomorrow.
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