New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-11-03
PARLIAMENTARY TOPICS.

PARLIAMENTARY TOPICS.
rpF GIBSON AMENDMENT REJECTED.
.rr,ov or THE HOUSE OF CoMMONs-rHE IRISH
MEMBERS VOTE WITH THE GOVERNMENT -
EGYPTIAN AND IRISH AFFAIRS.
The Gibson amendment substituting as
.oou;site for the declaration of closure, tWo-
th;rds majority for the bare majority proposed
nv the Government was rejected in the House
II Commons last evening by vote OF 23o
veas TO 322 nays. The lrlsn MEM
hers voted with the Government their
action having been decided by !"
r,a;or;tv of one. The debate preced-
inc the vote was prolonged until late
hour. Mr.. Parnell, Sir Stafford Northcote anu
MARQUIS of Harrington being among INC
sneakers Earlier in the day Irish ana Egyp-
tap affairs were discussed. Mr.. Gladstone re-
ferred TO the "warn with Egypt ana MS use
nj this word caused some excitement as He
bos berotofore denied that England was a'
war with Egypt.
SUBJECTS BEFORE THE COMMONS.
AFrArns RELATING TO RELAND-NR' uLAD
CREATES SENSATION IN srhNO" ''
THE CLOSURE DEBATE. -
Ioxpoy. Nov. 2.-In tbe House of Commons Ihls
.t,ernoon Mr. Trevelyan. Chief Secretary ior Ire
lind repIvinc 10 Mr. O'Kelly, said that the ISSUES
- The Nor York Irish Nation of August 26' Septem-
bsr o September 16 September 80, OctooeI ''Oo'o-
her IA and October 21 had been stopped because
.bev contained matter which the post ofce autn"ri
tles eould not permit TO circulate. MI. lre'eASan
stated that he saw in the papers direct incAe'"''
TO the murder of public officials.
Sir Charles Dixie, Under Foreign Secretary slaV,
cd that no communication had been recel'eu
from the Spanish Government IN regard "
the surrender of the Cuban refugees.
Mr. Gladstone said that the Government thought
that a contribution should be demanded from Egypt
for the expenses of British occupation. 1t would
he necessary he said to ask for further vote De-
fore winding tn, matter up but he had noreason 10
belieye that the vote would be large. Sir Sts1oru
Korthcote asked whether or not the GoVerhnlen'
could continue the occupation OF EgypI WIFI
mt the authvrty of Parliament. Mr.. Gladstone de-
elared that the occupation the result oil the
war. The use of the word "war" by MI. Olad-
stone created general demonstration III the House.
g. he has hitherto denied that England was at war
with Egypt.
Mr.Healy moved the adjournment of the House'in
ordsr ~ call attention TO the action of the sub
Commissioners under the Land Act in interrupting
tenants while giving evidence Thomas Dick
son Liberal declared that the Court OF Naluers
produced dissatisfaction among tenants. MI. far-
nell said he believed that the administration OF the
act would never give satisfaction TO tenants out IL
was useless to discuss the question on motion ior
adjournment Mr.. Trevelyan defended the Com
missioners and Valuers. He said that farms were
being examined much more carefully than before.
Mr. Gladstone said he could not now undertake TO
appoint day for discussion, When the procedure
debate was more advanced he would see what he
could do. Mr.. Healy withdrew his motion to
adjourn.
SIR Charles Dixie announced that news had been
received from Khartoum under date of October 80,
that the False Prophet was defeated with great
slaughter last month. Smallpox raging among
mis- followers.
The debate on the closure rule was then resumed
The debate Oh Mr. Gibson's amendment was pro-
longed until late hour. After speeches by Messrs'
Arthur Balfour, Labouchere, Newegate and Chap
Iin Mr. Parnen addressed the House. lie Thought
the closure rule would TO increase rather than
diminish the friction of Parliamentary business ana
would stimulate the tendency of the House OF
Lords to throw out measures coming from the
House of Commons, especially when passed Dy the
application of the closure. But he continued. dis
agreeable as it was, the Irish members would go
into the same lobby with the Government, They
had determined TO vote against MI, Gibsons amend
ment; but on tile further question of closure OF 10
closure they left themselves free TO act the party
might determine.
Sir Stafford Northcote followed Mr.. Parneli with
a speech strongly opposing the new rule, de
maintained that closure in any form objection
able. and expressed surprise that the Radicals
should lend hand to proceedings which would as
suredly react on themselves. He declared in con-
cusion that closure would diminish the confidence
which existed between the members and the
Speaker of the House.
The Marquis of Harrington repudiated the IN
situations that the Government had negotiated
with Irish members for their support he dld
not believe that the rule proposed would ln1lct any
injustice on the Opposition or that the Liberals
would ever suffer from it " hen in opposition. lie
was confident the rule would have a healthful ten
dency, promoting the transaction OF business and
raising the character of the debates
The Hous- then divided. and Mr. Gibsons amend
ment, substituting requisite for the declaration
of closure twothlrds majority for the bare major
ity proposed by the Government, was rejected. the
vote standing 23S III favor of the amendment to
322 against It.
1he Irish members in body voted with the Gov
ernment Mr. Callan explained that they did SO in
obedience TO the decision of the party not as sup
porters OF coercion and atrOcious government lie
added that the resolution by which the party had
decided go with the Government in this division
only adopted by the casting vote of its chair
JUDGE LAWSON AND Mr.. GRAY.
LONDON, Nov. 2.-The House of Commons
Committee TO Investigate the imprisonment of Mr. Gray
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