New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1882-05-12

81 per ton royalty on all the guauo taken out by the
Se I nasisi IA ana the purchase Of the Peruvian
bonds Then of the remainder Of the profits 80 m M
%ss % 80 70 ne sDS %Sn That
purchase OF additional bonds 20 per cent peas nhle
and expense The financial part OF TINS a;a,n
be carried out by the Compage an b inspec
whose hooks and proceedings were open 10 'hc Ispco
ZION az the bondhoders aud the Peruvian Government
quarterly The contract was made ~ ndsr PTesden
Prado It being afterward confirmed by Iier ora
In order to put tais s aer the war with chill
had broken out it deemed necessary o 10 rl s
This loan Was one OF the objects OF the Credit industrel
contract All these facts OF the situation were tou 10
the witness by Mr. Guiaume, chairman OF the PERUVIAN
Bondhoders' Committee, when he first became CON
nected with the French company in seplemDtr 1872;
Of the Territory OF Tarapaca preserved Mr. Giul,
aumc also told the witness that the French Began ne
to secure the pPSeSSn OF %ors ssch bnt they we're
unwilling 10 act until United states Government had
the initiative. in consequence OF thc slanu ;as
10y the United states against European Al
desire to state right here" said the witness, that
Mr. Gulaume informed me that 3,6000O0 In Peruvian
bonds was held in New-York The day following our IN
teryiew Mr.. Guillaume gave me tne Progranne which
handed TO Secretary Evarts afterward All OF ihe eo
tracts between the Credit ind1streI anI The
United States We understood that 1.-THE the
European Governments wonld n onrinDity TO take
the initiative If it failed do 80, why-the Um'eu
States must look out for Itself
WHAT HE TOLD MR.. EvARTs
Mr. Randall said further that he had called on nr'
Evarts and informed him of these facts IN repy no
cold that his acts would show his great anxiety 10 p
about peace in South America. Further, nc u. '.
saw confdentialy that he had instructed inc
Ministers to Peru and Chill TO bring about cum 80
hotwecn those two Governments. and ne hau no ved
&c M time the conference in session. tpro'eu
TO be so subsequently. , ..o,s
Mr. Belmont-You refer TO inc coileren0o " ~
Mr. Randall-Yes sir. -, .,. NJ rvorts told hin,
Continuing the witness said that MT Its ~ , Us at
aS sorrS this matter had not been Droughto nIs az
tenton beforethat s the ability 81 re fhe Crcd In
GnstTe The United states, however had nothing TO
Perm and certainly not with bringing in foreign cor
poration When the witness tou NE EHa rs. -, rase
~ athcritv 10 bind the Credit lndustrlel 10 rase
40 GOO 600 or a6OOOOOo the Secretary urged the
advisabity OF having someone Sent over 10 tTrs
action The witness showed Mr. Eyarts MS can ,I AZ
Roiea OF Bank sond send authorized official to
offer programme" The witness said that MI. EVatss
fgcd tbe paris parties in the matter that mediation
was now gong on. fact which should not De known;
At tt tere Wa c objection to the United States accept
ing protectOrate over the Territory OF darapnca '
nronosition, however must come first from lne
bellgerents aud not from q foreign corpU1[aaOn c
after the dSDa Of take the urhaT action to
peace because he then was soon going out OF Once
useS mr secretary Evars's dispatch Of December H.
1850 to Mr. Adams, regarding the wllngness oi tno
red to the protecorate OF Tarapaca .,o ,,ro q,
Mr. Kasson-You had better not take up inc Tune o.
the witness now with crOsseXaIDlnalOD, ME- bclhoht
Mr.. Belmont-I would rather have the dlspateh c1hc
in now. want the instructions IRON Mr. E'ar'S W i
Christiancy OF February H. 1851, READ a., ., -,
MT Kasson-I object to encuInbering the records OF
committee in TIE Irrelevant matter , ~, ,,....h
Mr. Belmont insisted upon the readlng OF the
~ ,S no sad Mr. Ranaa 1.-THE Government knew of
no other company or organization than the Credit In
dusrie willing or able to assist INC nh'eu o'1'oS " 40
undertaking. namely, 10 secure peace.
INTERVIEWS WITH Mr.. BLAINE.
Tho witness further testified that he Secretary
Blaine soon after he went into Office and informed MIN
of what Mr. Evarts had approved.
Mr. Belmont nnterrupting -Did you have any inter
views
MI Kasson-If you will allow him to 90 on in order he
will come to all that He is going with his statement
in regular order.
Mr. Randall-Mr Blaine stated to nc his approval
individually of my propositions and That the United
States Government would carry them out as lr as pos
slbe in the south American negOaOns-that Is, uilZe
them - - , j.. 81, oro+bor ~
his written questions, when Mr. Kasson said: Won't
you let him 60 on with mis- regular sr0ry Of the secre
tarv at any time Of our interviews we discussed
70 Perm and suggested william L. Chandler Mr.. Blaine
asked me General Hurbut would he satisfactory 10
nebty that the instructions General urbut Of June
Is 1881, accord with my plans ana that tney
Al this point Mr. Kasson again prevented some pre-
ci1itatn questioning by Mr. Belmont, saying that 1t In
Rspmpg his narrative the witness said that when he
went back to Europe in July, 1ssl he had asked Mr.
Emore the Peruvian mister at Washington, 10 accom-
pany him, state 10 his clients THAT lie MT Fl
favorable attitude of Mr.. Blaine. On the witness
TO America NJ Elmore wrote MN say'ng a. t
ness) did come to see him The witness subsequently
was in Washington November %, "a, 90 Is and 30
and December and H. seeing MT Blaine several
| times. -. a.,, ,oo,,ad nm
Mr. Randall-Entirely so. 49,. -. D,o,,o
Mr. Belmont.Dd Mr.; Gilmore say that MT. Blame
| spoke to him OF the Landreau and Cochet clamst 49,
Mr. Randal-Ihe Peruvian Minister informed me that
on no occasion did Mr. Blaine speak TO him OF these
claims aud he knew of no correspondence on the subject
MIR BemOnt-IOu firmly convinced That the
plan Of the Credit lndustrie i'll accord with the
Mr Randali-Yes sir At the interviews OF November
80 AMI December Mr. Blaine informed me that he had
submitted all papers in this matter to President Ar
thur, who approved what had been doue' When MI
Trescot was Commissioner to Peru. Mr. Blaine
informed that Walker Blame was to 80 with him. the
Secretary rather objected to his sons going along MI
Blame again treated tue subject OF our plans as eIeu
out the programme OF Credit ndustrie II had read
them at that time certainly would have ndorsed lhein
regarding the Landreau claim In conflict with your
Mr. Randal-In direct conflict judging from the pro-
spectus of the Peruvian Company.
fuss BROTHERS of Paris which forth the following
query from the chairman " DO you want 10 ehailllo
| Mr. Bemont-They may be very pertinent. ITO the
witness.l Did not Mr. Dreyfuss have some relations
MIR. RandaiI-Yes / don't know what relations he
| had with President Greyy Mr. Dreyiuss assured me
| tina his interests were in common with those OF the
| Or dit IndusirieL
| Mr.. Belmont--Was the recognition OF the CaldeTon
Government i'll Peru necessary carry out this pro-
| graInInc
Mr. Randall can't say that, because any permanent
government Peru might have accepted the proposition
| of the Credit Industrel.
| Mr.. Belmont-n the Landreau claim were recognized,
you would be far of III the payment OF your cainsi
| Mr. Randal-Yos sir Their payment would be post
pOned very long period If Landreau were PAID nrrt
The witness Testified that he talked
| with Secretary Blaine little with re-
| spect TO the Landreau and Cochet claims
and he 1.-THE witness) drew inference from what he
said the secretary had only recently heard OF the
| Iandreau claim Al that time Mr.. Blame tOiu Nun
nothing about the dispatch of August 4.
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