Morris tribune., 1882-04-13
THE CHINESE QUESTION.
An Interesting Statement of the Situation fl
the Man Who Made the Treatr

An Interesting Statement of the Situation from
the Man Who Made the Treaty.
DETROIT, April 6.-The Post and Tribune
will contain Tomorrow an interview with Pres
ident Angel of the university, who was the
United States minister who negotiated the re-
cent treaties with China. In regard to the bill
just vetoed by the president, Mr.. Angel said:
I see that Commissioner Swift says there was N
understanding that even as much as thirty years
prohibition would not be considered unreasonable.
have no recollection Of any limit of time being
agreed to. When we first confersed with the Chi
nese they spoke of limitations, of time and number,
but afterwards said they only intended to that
expression by wav Of illustration as for instance,
asking what would be the result if the Chinese
were permitted to come only in alternate years,
or were prohibited from coming from one, two, or
three years They asked Us, to-. what legislation
congress would enact We saw he could not tell
but wished to make treaty which should impose
reasonable restriction. Now that is the Central
point in the whole matter. whether the twenty
year limit in the vetoed bill was reasonable one or
not, and that is purely matter of opinion
which there can be no hope Of unanimity. When
such question is to be considered the only way.
After discussing, is TO call the roll and see who has
the most votes. Personally think
TWENTY YEAR LIMIT TOO LONG
and should have voted against it If had an oppor-
tunity, Probably should not like 10 favor longer
limit than five years myself, though when say that
] do not express my FMS Judgment. have not
thought it over sufficiently to do So The purposes
for which we were sent to China were in brief
these: Nearly every nation in the world has
IMPOSED more or less stringent restrictions the
immigration OF Chinese. We had our right to impose
restrictions to the greatest good. The question of
Ceinese immigration has been growing more and
more serious il the Pacific States particularly and
it was thought wise TO frame q new treaty by
which the right TO limit should be regained. There
Ii doubt that the general sentiment in California
is that further Chinese immigration is undesirable
Such opinions not confined TO the sand lots.
The Chinese government are willing to consent to
sch treaty stpulations shall best the inter
ests of their citizens. whose good they seek.
81 "a in nnf - and
desire 10 alleviate it for the good Of their own
people, and suspect that if people of other parts
of this country were situated those who are in
San Francisco, there would be good deal the same
condition of pnbc sentiment
NO INTEREST IN CHINA
As TO how the veto would be received in
China, President Angel said:
There will be no interest whatever among the
masses OF the people. for they know nothing about
it. In the foreign office there will be great interest
in ii. The news has probably reached Shanghai by
this time, but what the government would have
sanno s S The ssss Of the 5h9 peoDe
do not, l suppose. know that there is such
a country as America. The immigration all comes
from the provinces near Canton, and from strip
Of country about as large as the New England
States. These people Were a maratime race, and
became imbued with spirit OF commerce and
travel. Whether they are imported by the Six
America from their returned countrymen. do not
know. Both theories are stoutly maintained / can
T. aaflT see Nawfhe petDsD2 OF the sE can cause an
increase of immigration Of Chinese TO this country
for as said, the people do not know there is such
a country as America / suppose / could have
asked thousand Chnamen whom would maet
In the streets of Shanghai whether any such thing
as Chinese emigration had been discussed by them,
and they would not have known what was talking
about
THE cHIR DIFFICULTY
in the whole Chinese question is the fact that these
people do not assimilate like Europeans. nor do
they scatter over the country, and if the 5000
~ Fran IL 1Y1ooN
ent parts OF the country nsteal Of remaining there
there would be no agitation and no difficulty.
But they are Gregarious people. In
clannIsh race with most bitter feuds existing be-
tween different villages The fifth objection Of the
Chinese minister, that there was no provision in
the bill for the protection of the Chinese travelling
through the United States TO Cuba, and elsewhere,
is a good one There are Cinnamon in South
American countries and Cuba. The fact that prac-
tically prohibitory legislation has been enacted rel
ative to Australia without previous notice Is not
generally known.
President Angall in conclusion, said:
The whole question turns on the construction put
upon the word reasonable" used in the treaty,
and what is reasonable question is fact on which
men will be of different minds.
How Indian Wars are Provoked.
WASHINGTON. April 5.-The follow ing sbstrae
from letter from Gen. Pope is made public:
Fort Leavenworth, Kan, April 3;-Mai William
Gum, Washington-Sir: I leave tomorrow for
Reno. The situation is plain. The indians cannot
live on reduced beef rations There are 100000
cattle grazing not far from there. Rather than
starve they will do as We do-take by force what
cattle are needed to keep them and their families
from starvation. This will provoke Indian HOSTILE
ties, which will lead. God knows where. The only
legal act the military do is to make them starve
peaceably-a most inhuman service. Some
department of the government should as
sume the responsibility of sending q few
thousand dollars for beef rather than have an In
dian outbreak on large scale. There is no game
to subsst the Indians in this Indian Territory. Is
it really the intention of the government for such
paltry sum to plunge the frontier into war with
the Indians assemble strong military force to
force theseuuhappy creatures to starve in peace?
There will be fearful responsibilities somewhere
If this matter not settled 1t be done IN
one hour. Should find nothing done when
reach Reno shall probably assume the RESPONSE
bility myself. had rather suffer anything myself
than see an Indian outbreak SO lnexcusabe, unjust
and fraught with such dreadful circumstances
There is no reason 1t. You show this to the secre
tary Of war. tSignedl JOHN POPE,
Byt. Maj. Gen, Com'd'g