Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1882-01-02

which the jury heartily joined.)
DR.. Gray resumed the story of his converse
ton with the prisoner in the Jail. Guitean in
terrupted: "That don't correspond with your
evidence yesterday, doctor. You went to in
spration then"
Scovllle objected to the statement of the
witness, saying that he said nothing OF inspir-
alton or divine pressure, and argued that the
witness must give the conversation or the
substance OF it as it occurred; that it would
be the province of the jury to say what should
be inferred from it.
Witness qualified his statement by adding:
81 asked him questions and my statement is
based upon his replies" Witness continuing,
said the prisoner used the expression. when
! made up my mind IL was the result OF
grinding pressure"
Guiteau - That's where the inspiration
comes IN. Please get that straight while you
are about 1t.
Scoville again objected that the witness was
losing sight of the question, and going into
arguments.
Guiteau - The witness is forgetting
what he testified yesterday, Corkhill must
have gotten hold of him and instructed him
what to say to-day. That's what's the matter
with him."
Scoville disclaimed any desire to interrupt
the witness, but the prosecution held him to
a strict requirement that he should make his
objections specially, and he must therefore
stop the witness at every point where he was
satisfied au objection would lie.
Guteau continually interjected comments,
and with Scoville's frequent objections witness
soon became sensbly disturbed, and when
asked to go on he said "There have been so
MANY Interruptions that do not know where
am"
Guiteau quickly retorted: 81 should not
think you did, nor any one else. have been
irving all the morning to find out where you
are. The fact is you are badly lost this morn
ing, doctor. We will have to send a small
boy to find YOU"
Witness was about to state some reasons
which induced him (witness) TO form an opin-
ion at the time he visited him at the Jail, when
Guiteau again interrupted and called out :
CDR. Gray is devoting himself to an argument
to the Jury this forenoon, which he has no
right to do. He should confine himself to
facts. Porter will take care of the arguments
(Sarcastlcally) Judge Porter, l mean"
Scovile again objected that the witness was
volunteering an argument instead OF adherlng
to statement of the facts. The witness, with
some feeling, replied: 81 am under oath, Mr..
Scoville, and l do not care to volunteer any
thing which is not strictly and appropriately
evidence in the case"
Guiteau-sThen you had better stop talk
ing, If you don't want to volunteer anything"
Witness did not find single circumstance
as narrated by the prisoner that would in
dicate to his (witness) mind insanity. He was
of opinion, Judging by his examination of the
prisoner in the Jail, and from his observation
of him in court, that he is sane.
Corkhill then read to witness the hypotheti-
cal question of Donez, and turning to SEQ
vile, said: "You see, Mr.. Scoville, l have
submitted your own question"
Scovile-"Yes, only you don't read it with
the same emphases that you do your own"
Corkhill-"Precisely SO: Because 1 don't
believe in it as ] do mine."
Witness replied: 81 would not like to answer
that hypothetical qestion, because it evidently
means to apply TO the prisoner, and knowing
what l do Of him, from my own observation
and examination, could not answer it as a
hypothetical case, because in my Judgment 1t
does not describe an insane state"
Witness then analysed the question, clause
by clatse, and severely criticized it. Corkhill
then read the lengthy hypothetical Questions
of the prosecution.
Guiteau suggested there was no necessity
to repeat that bosh, as everybody had heard it
a dozen times The SUI gestion was unheeded,
the prisoner added: "Two-thirds of that is
false, and it makes ME mad every time | hear
it read" AS the reading proceeded he con-
tinually called out: "That's false, that's
false;' "How do you know" "That's Smiths
lie, and similar expressions.
Witness replied 81 believe him to have
been sane on July q"
Guiteau shouted: 'sThe whole substratum
of that thing is false. How can the doctor
give truthful answer"
Witness then gave at great length, and in
full, the details of what he had observed in the
conduct and sayings of the prisoner in court,
that led him (witness) to believe in his sanity.
Referring to the prisoners claim that the deity
inspired the act, he was interrupted by Gui-
teau, who called out: "Yes, and he is taking
care of it too, DR.. Gray. I'll stake my life on
it."
Witness was asked: do you think the
prisoner has been feigning in courtT" and re-
piled, eyes, l do. He claims an inspiration
from the deity. l doubt that he believes any
such thing, and in such a sense he is feigning
and acting part"
Guiteau-'No such thing. / never feign.
You are paid for your opinion; the jury is
not"
Scoville began the cross-examination. Wit
ness was asked if he had testified as an expert
in cases of persons on trial for capital crimes,
but before he could reply Guiteau supple.
mented the question by calling out: "How
many men have you helped to hang, dOctor?'
Witness was not aware of case where he
had pronounced a sane man insane, or where
he had adjudged an insane man sane. He adj
mitted, however, that his views upon some
types of insanity had changed since he begar
study of the subject.
Guiteau-"You live and learn then, like
other people. If you live twenty years long
err YOU may know something about insanity
You NAV reach the Abraham type by tina
time You are growing man, doctor"
Witness stated that he had abandoned thu
theory of s'moral insanity" as far back as 1864
He did not think it would be found in his re
ports subsequent to that date as distinc
classification.
After some further questions on this sub
iect Gulteau broke out impatiently: eth,
amount of it is, these experts
will swear to anything fol
money. They will swear to things to day tina
they would not have thought of swearing tt
25 years ago, or would swear to 25 year.
hence. This subject of insanity is progress
sive.''
Witness was asked how he came visi
Washington to testify in this case, and re
piled; "a did not care to come, but the presi
dent of our board said he thought it my dut..
to come"
Scovile-s'Then you came on his interpre
tation of your duty"
Witness indignantly)-'No, sir; came Of
telegram"
Guiteau added: "aow about Corkhill'
money? l guess that was the influence tina
brought you here. This fellow Corkhill ha
got bung hole in the treasury that will rul
out over one hundred thousand dollars befor
he gets through with this case. It's abou