Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1882-04-08
THE PERU-CHILI INVESTIGATION.
sHlPHERD FURTHER EXAMINED TO-DAY.

A0u u1aO Ou1ul IN ' llUVs
sHIPHERD FURTHER EXAMINED TO-DAY.
HIS INTERVIEWS WITH SECRETARY BLAINE.
In the examination OF Jacob r. Shipherd before
the House committee on foreign affairs yesterday
after our report closed, the clerk finished the
reading OF the letters submitted by Shpherd to
substantiate the allegations which he had made
against Gen. Huribut in previous examinatiols
but there was nothing In the correspondence to lead
to the suppOsltion that Huribut was improperly
interested in the claim. The witness himself was
forced to admit this, but he said his course was
such that Mr. Scott Lord had declared that Hurl-
but was ''a double damned and deeply dyed
Villain" as he had inserted himself absolutely be-
tween President Calderon and the American
claimants, In order to attempt to defeat the COM
pany with the Peruvian government. In the sec
case after he reached Peru though before he went
he found 1t perfect Shipherd brought forth letter
tary OF State for his "brOad mind. high-aspiring
Ideals" and 'instant and comprehensive grasp o.;
al themes with equal and familiar ease" and calls
Mr. walker Blaine statesman, and very adrOtly
sets out to secure him as attorney, but young Mr..
Blaine took no notice OF it. and the Secretary said
there must be no negotiations carried on with his
assistants In the State department.
ShfPherd Further Examined To-Day.
Mr. Rice resumed the examination OF Mr.. Ship
herd before the foreign affairs committee at half
past 10 O'Clock this morning by asking II he had
any further correspondence or interviews with
Walker Blaine subsequent to the writing Of the
letter read yesterday.
Witness answered that he had one other inter-
view with Walker Blaine at the State department
some time In November last and that Mr. Trescott
was present part of the time.
THE WITNESS OPINION OF Mr.. HURLBUT.
Witness here desired to know II the exhibits
which he had offered in evidence few days since
(re1erring to the newspaper charges against Mr..
Hurlbut some years slnce) were to be admitted in
evidence as part OF the circumstances which had
| Influenced him (Shipherd) in forming his opinion
of Mr.. Hurlbut.
Mr.. Rice replied that, so far as he was concerned
ne could not see the pert!nence to this nvestiga-
tion OF reviewing any matter occurring years ago,
or any newspaper allegations in regard to them.
Representatives BlOunt and Belmont were of the
opinion that Mr. Shipherd had already been ac-
corded sufficient latitude in showing how he WAS
Influenced In writing the letter OF June III to Mr..
Hurlbut.
general discussion ensued, and the opinion of
the committee was unanimously expressed in op-
position to the admission OF campaign matter in
the nature OF general attack upon the character
Witness was asked to proceed, and interposed a
request to be heard on the question, which was
accorded him.
THE INVESTIGATION. =
With much emphasis, witness proceeded to state
his views The object OF this investigation, as he
understood, it was to make inquiry, first, to the
missing letter; second, as to whether any minis
tiers of the United States have been improperly
interested in the Peruvian company. In regard to
his own position, witness found himself here In
dual capactty-aS witness and as a defendant
AS he understood it, the letter OF the Secretary OF
State practically charged him {ShipherdD with
attemDte1 a minister
States. This had arrested the attention OF Con-
gress and had lead to this Investigation He(wttnes
tiveS in writing the letter. and he deemed 1t due to
him (Sh1pherD to be allowed to offer in evidence
form the opinion that HurlbIrt was q purchase
able man.
RUNNING DISCUSSION
ensued, in which members OF the committee on the
one side and Mr. Shipherd upon the other endeav-
ored to define to their mutual satisfaction the limit
of the inquiry in the matter OF any public charges
against Mr.. Hurlbut which might have influenced
Mr.. Shipherd in making his proposition.
Representative Blount objected to admitting sec
ondary evidence as to Mr.. Hurlbuts act or charac-
ter not In any way connected with this transac-
evidence on the other side should be heard also
and as Mr.. Hurlbut was dead and unable to meet
his accuser 1t seemed to him manfeStly unjust and
improper to admit any such evidence RepreSen-
tative Blount therefore moved to exclude the evil
dence.
decided
motion lie on the table for the present.
CHANCE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS
Mr.. Rice suggested that 1t had occurred to him
that the mode OF pursuing the inquiry might give
the appearance OF a partiZan investigation, as
thus far the republican members had occupied
about all the time; not that any complaint had
been made by any member OF the committee. but
1t had occurred to him that 1t would be fairer to
allow some OF the democratic members to take up
the conduct OF the investigation. The committee
continue
Mr.. Blount remarked that the investigation was
being conducted to his satisfaction.
The chairman stated that he would call upon
one OF The democratic members to take up the
case as soon as Mr.. Rice had concluded the branch
OF the case upon which he started.
sHIPHERD's LETTER TO GOV. BOUTWELL,.
Mr. Rice resumed with the inquiry: 'sHave you
any other correspondence with the Secretary of
State (Mr. Blaine) which has not been prfnted?"
Answer.-I have none, with the exception Of
one letter Of December 10th, 1881, addressed to
Gov Boutwell, and intended to be shown to the
Blaine or Frelinghuysen The letter was then
put In evidence and read by the clerk. It was
quite long, and defended the writer (shipherd)
from the Secre tary's charges against him OF at
tempting to bribe Minister Hurlbut.
SHEPHERDS INTERVIEWS WITH SECRETARY BLAINE.
Mr. Shipherd was asked to state what personal
interviews he had with Secretary Blaine, and re-
piled that he held the first interview with him on
the evening of October 18th and another on the
some length the circumstances which led up to the
first interview, going back to the dispatches
which he {ShipherD had supposed were sent by
Secretary Blaine to Mr. Hurlbut. These dispatches
witness stated, were read to Senator Blair by Mr.
Blaine, June I'd, and subsequently Senator Blair
remarked to him, ''Shipherd, II you had
written the dispatches yourself they
could not have covered the ground more
perfectly, particularly the cable dispatch"
Shortly after that witness saw Senator Blair, and
asked ii the dispatches had been sent, and was as
sured that they had been; and again a few days
afterwards Senator Blair said to witness: 81
have seen the Secretary and he says the dispatches
were sent without an alteration OF any kind on
the same day they were read to me, June 2i"
When witness received HurlbutS letter stating
that no such dispatches had been received he was
much disturbed, and at once sought Senator Blair
to find out what It meant The Senator was great
ly puzzled, and said: "Mr. Shipherd, this Affects
my VeTactty, and that OF the Secretary. will
make this my business to investigate"
Witness continued "hnally, Senator Blair advised
me to come to Washington, bring my letters and
correspondence and lay the matter before the Sec
retary, and in that way we should get at the bot
tom OF IT." Witness therefore came to Washing
ton and held his first interview with the Secretary
On the evening OF October ID Witness then de-
tailed what occurred at this interview, prefacing
with the remark that possibly he might In some
way Overrun what was said or done at one inter-
view into another. The Secretary appeared lit
tie inpatient and, as he (Shipherd) thought.
seemed TO anticipate the object Of his visit Wit