Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1881-01-06
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE.
rwENrY-FouRTH sEssIoN-FouRrH DAY.
SENATE.

TWENTY-FoURTH sEsSIoN-FOURTH DAY.
SENATE.
SACRAMENTO, January 5, 1881.
The Senate met pursuant to adjournment at 10
A. NJ President Mansfield in the Chair. Roll called.
Quorum present. Minutes read and approved.
Mr.. DICKINSON, Chairman OF the Committee on
Rules submitted It's report as follows:
Amend Rule so as to read as follows The time
of meeting OF the Senate shall be l o'clock P. N.
(Sundays eXcepted) and in case any other is named
it shall be applicable only to one day, and shall
not affect this rule beyord the day named for diff
ferent hour of meeting"
In Rule 5, subdivision g. strike out the words
first reading" and insert in lieu thereof the word
"printing" Subdivision Z, amend to read as follows
" First reading on engrossment OF bills" Subdi-
vision O. strike out the word third and insert in
lieu thereof the word +" second" Subdivision 10,
add the following as n new subdivision Third
reading of bills" Renumber balance of subdivision
in Rule 8. Amend Rule 6, so as to read rs follows
" Every bill shall be read on three several days
previous to its passage. When bill is introduced
it shall be printed and referred to an appropriate
committee when bill is reported back from a
committee With amendments, or otherwise, 1t shall
be considered as though the Senate were in Com
mittee of the Whole and shall be read aud perfected
by sections, which shall be the first reading OF the
bill and when so read ard perfected it shall be
crossed and printed without amendments. 1t shall
then be read at length second time, which shall
be the secsnd reading of the bill, and such
second reading, 1t shall be open to amendment. as
upon its first reading On the final passage of bill it
shall be read at length by sec,ion which shall be the
third reading OF the bill, and on such third reading
no bill shall be open TO amendment, upon its first
reading. On the final passage of bill, it shall be
read at length by section, which shall be the third
reading of the bill; and on such third reading no
bill shall be open to amendment, except it
may be recommended with special in
structions. On the final passage Of bill
-. e1,o1l h. Had
taken by ayes and noes which shall be recorded in
the Senate Journal, and bill shall be declared
passed unless ma ajJrity of the Senators elected
vote for the passage of the same. The presiding
officer OF the Senate shall give notice at each read
ing whether il be the first second third reading
of the bill The first and second readings of bill
at length may be dispensed with in ease of emer-
gency by two-thirds vote of the Senate, by vote
of ayes and noes" Amend Rule by striking out
$3.50 and inserting in lieu thereof $3.50" and "a.
Amend Rule 10, subdivision ,, by striking out the
word eight and insert in lieu thereof the word
s nine" Amend subdivision % so AS to read as fol-
lows: Committee on Irrigation and Water Rights,
to consist OF seven members" Amend subdivision
"a by striking out the word fisheries and insert
ing in lieu thereof the word fish" Amend subd-
vision 26 so to read as follows: " Committee on
City, City and County and Town Governments, to
consist OF seven members" Amend subdivision 20
so as to read as follows Committee on Drainage
ami Mining Debris, to consist OF seven members. Z"
Amend subdivision 30 so as to read as follows :
" Committee on Apportionment and Representa-
ton, to consist Of nine members. Add to Rule 27
the following: +" IL the previous question is neg
atiyed the Senate shall proceed in the same
manner if the motion had not been made" Add
to Rule 81 the following A motion TO reconsider
NAV be made by any Senator after notice given -
In Rule 43, after the word ' Assembly, III second
line insert the words !" State officers" Amend
Rule 81, line second, by striking out the word
'ten,'' and inserting in lieu thereof the word
"fve"
Mr. D1cKIHsoS-I move that the report be taken
up and considered.
Mr.. RyAN--From the reading of the report by the
Secretary take it that the proposed report is the
old rules amended. In order to take them up now
it would be proper that members should have
the old rules before them, so that they could
act intelligently. | do not remember the
rules of the last session. l have not them
here, and certainly it would be unfair to take
them up now. suppose those gentlemen have ex-
amined those rules, and have them in their minds.
The rest of less fortunate. We certainly
ought to have an opportunity.
The PREsIDENr-The rules are in the journal OF
the last session.
Mr.. RYAS-I move that this matter be made the
special order for tomorrow, Immediately the re
conyening of the session.
Mr. JoHSsoS-I move that the amendments be
printed and laid upon the desks of the Senators be-
fore we act upon these amendments. That will only
delay the matter day. 1t will give everybody an
opportunity to see them. say for one, l believe
there is job in this thing. | say it publicly and
openly and mean just what say. | am posed
ask those Senators re who are not in favor Of jobs
to allow these things 20 be printed, so that will
know what they are. One day won't interfere with
the business of this Senate with the business OF
California and we may Just as well have these mat
tiers printed and look at them, as we can to act
on them in this hasty manner, and l therefore
that the consideration of these rules be set for
tomorrow morning Immediately after the reading
of the Journal and that these amendments be printed
for the information of the Senate.
Mr.. BsKER-I would suggest the rules be printed
as amended.
Mr. GLAscocK-I second the motion.
Mr. WEST believe that the amendments pro.
posed by the majority of the committee are suf-
iicien.ly transparent for everybody 10 understand
them My experience has been that major part of
the work OF the Senate has devolved upon the COM
mittees It was the object of the Committee on
Rules TO give the committees more time to digest
and prepare their work.
Mr.. NYE-I hope that this matter will not be de-
layed We have got to trust work of this charac-
ter, well as legislative work, largely to commit
tees We have trusted 1t to committee, it has
made its report and able to work now as
any time There is work already assigned to COM
mttees. Whenever they appointed they may
go to work at once and by tomorrow morning have
the bills reported ready for the second reading if
we only have the committees appointed | trust no
unreasonable opposition will be made TO those rules
at the present time.
Mr.. EYos-The members of the Committee on
Rules that was appointed certainly have the ad-
vantage of the rest of the members of the Senate in
this radical change that has been offered here to this
2ule No. 6, by which we were governed last session.
Mr.. DAvIs-I am anxious to have the report con-
sidered as rapidly as possible, bu i1asmuch as a
charge of a job has been made by u prominent
Senator on the floor, shall vote for the motion,
with the understanding that he will either prove
the charges he has made or take them back. Last
winter charges of Jobs ard corruption had been
made indiscriminateiy by certain members on the
floor, but they wee never verified by the persons
who made them / think it not becoming that
such charges should be made upon the floor unless
the person making them is able to substantiate
them 1t is serious charge to charge those
Senators that they put UP job in the matter OF
the presentation of these rules. For the reasons
which | state l expect that this charge will be
proved ventilated, at least shall vote for the
resolution OF the Senator from Sacramento.
Mr.. SEARs-I have no objection to the postpone
ment of these rules. In fact, think under the cir
cunsances, it is proper that it should go over for
one day. At the same time do not think it neces-
sary to postpone the appointment therefore, of the
important committees, when there is 20 change.
They could be appointed under the old rule But /
do not propose to sit here quietly, member of
the Committee on Rules and permit any member Of
tina. committee to rise in his seat and make
charge against this committee Of job, which is to
be spread broad cast this State without his
defining what that job is, and to whom he alludes
as the iobber. | want the facts and the proof and
for that purpose vote that this matter may go over
1t is serious charge. 1t is one of criminal
nature that a member of this body who has taken
his oath to do his duty, should secretly go into
guage of the Senator, against the State and the in
terest of the State, and therefore hope that the
matter will go for day, in order that it nay
be investigated, il necessary.
Mr.. SATTERwHTTE-There is a job in the p. opposed
amendment to this rule, and as a Democratic
member Of this Senate am sorry that / went into
it with the Senators from San Francisco and Marin
The job in that rule is to assist this Republican Leg
islature and Senate to get through with its business
as soon as possible believe sir, that referring the
bill before it is read and amending it, will save time
and facilitate business. II wanted, as member of
that committee, to retard legislation and disgrace
the Republican majority of this body and this Leg.
islature, certainly would have adhered to the old
rule, and l hope, however, that the Senate will
postpone this matter and make il special order for
o'clock tomorrow, 10 o'clock, so that friends
may serutinize it fully and completely.
Mr. WArsoN-I think, Mr.. President, there is a
misapprehension in the minds of some of the Sena-
tors as to the advantage Of the amendment and
what the rule contemplates. AS | understand it,
the bills that introduced have to be referred and
printed, the same though they had been read the
first time. They to be printed and laid on the
desks of the Senators the next morning, the same
as if they had been read. Now, it is well known
that in the vast maority OF cases. Sena ors do not
listen. They cannot tell what has been read. But
under the circumstances I am in favor of post
ponng this until tomorrow, making it special