New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1881-08-03
ENGLAND AND IRELAND.

LONDON, Aug. 1.-The Duke OF Afgyu IN MS
speech on the Land bill in the House of Lords to-
day, said there was feeling of bitterness and hui
initiation which was not confined to that House in
being obliged to accept bill to which SO many had
strong fundamental objections Universal power,
he said, was given to three men of valuing rents
all over Ireland, which was eminently ridiculous,
and giving absolute right of sale to everybody was
eminently unjust. He particularly attacked the
provisions in the bill enabling the Land Court to
interfere in leases. If the effect of the bill was to
retain the poorest class of tenants on holdings it
would only perpetuate the difficulties in Ireland.
No people could prosper who like many Irish ten
ants, had been pleading poverty an excuse for
fraud. He advised the Government TO tell the Irish
courts, and that poverty is no excuse for wrong
The Duke of Marlborough CONSERVATIVE also
spoke in condemnation of the bill;
In the House of Lords tonight Lord Selborne,
Lord High Chancellor, said the Land bill was fenced
in with such safeguards would prevent any undue
interference with the rights OF property; The bill
would strengthen the moral power of the Govern
mont for the enforcement OF law:
Lord Cairns Conservative said the fact that the
landlords are suffering by the present disturbed
state of affairs due to the Governments abnega-
tion of its primary function and the encouragement
it had given to the agitation but he was glad un-
der the circumstances, of the House not coming to
an issue on the second reading of the BILL as mpor-
necessary.
The Earl of Kimberley, Colonial Secretary, hay
ing replied to Lord Cairns the second reading of the
bi was opted without division, and the Earl of
Kimberley expressed his satisfaction at the general
tone OF the debate, showing the unanimous opin on
that legislation is necessary upon the lines OF the
Government.
Lord Denman QiberaD announced that he would
move the rejection of the bill on going into commit
tee, which was fixed for Thursday next.
AT meeting of 100 Conservative Peers at Lord
Salisburys house yesterday TO consider amendments
to the Land bill, amendments suggested by Lord
Salisbury were unanimously agreed TO- in addition
to those already stated. they include one similar
to that of w. Ii. Smith in the House of Commons,
providing for the examination and revision, after
six years. of the duties and constitution OF the Land
Court.
The Times, ip leading article this morning, says;
H Is Impossible to contest the fact that u the debate
porters Of the Ministry completely incapable of
oratory but in the praeca maay of he cc hSe 9 % IN
assailans Of the bill had bettcr of its advocates 1t
Is manifest that the Lords almost without distinction Of
party regard the bill as painful and perhaps disastrous
Messrs. Murphy and Campion. two of the prin-
eIpal members OF the Rathdowney Queens County,
branch of the Land League, have been arrested
under the Coercion act
MIR. PARNELL's ATTITUDE.
Soon after Mr. Parnell quilted the House of Com
mons yesterday majority of his followers held u
consultation with him, and it decided that the
English and Scotch as well the Irish votes in
supply shall be questioned on the ground that they
affect Iishmen resident in Great Britain
The House last night, passed by vote of to IL
motion giving precedence to Government business
until the close OF the session of Parliament. The
principal business will be that of supply.
Mir. Gladstone intimatcd that Irish members would
Coercion act III the discussion on the Appropriation
bill for the IRISH expenses Mr. Parnel was not sat
lshed with this postponement of the question hence
the scene when Mr.. Parnell was named" and, by
the vote OF The House he was suspended for the
mainder of the sitting.
The Tines ia a leading article this morning SAYS:
Mr. Parne is surely deluding himself if he hopes TO
persuade the country that there is freedom of
eusslon left TO the Irish members of Parliament What
he country Is far more likely to that none
left to anybody else-not to Parliament itself
DUBLIN, Aug. 2-Mr Parnell was present at
the meeting of the Land League to-day, and an
nounced that the League would hold a National
Convention in Dublin the 18th of September. to
consider the best means of obtaining Irish land for
irishnlen. The suggestion unanimously an
proved Mr. Parnell advised tenants not to trust to