Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1881-11-19

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you.
| A-On the right hand.
| Q-Were YOU even with him or forward ot
him.
A-Possibly half step ahead of him, be
cause think have that habit in walking.
| have been told so and possibly | was in
that attitude that morning.
Q-Do you know Col. Hooper o: the Re
publican committee:
| A-Yes.
Q-Did you ever say TO him that Guitcau
was to have a consulship?
| A-Never in the world. | never remem-
| Der of saving word to him about il OF he tu
me.
Q-Did YOU make any remark Mt the time
of or Immediately after the shooting when il
| was aseertained who il was as to the mental
condition of Guiteau:
Al have no recollection of it.
Q-What was the condition Of the repuhli-
can party as TO unanmity and harmony for
six weeks before the shooting of the Presi.
dent?
A-There were some dissensions in it.
Q-They were considerable were they not:
A-Yes sir.
Q-They created a good deal of excitement
| in the country?
Al should say not in the country.
o. mean among the people?
A-Dissensions we're largely local. There
were differences between the President and
some members of the party about some mat
tiers in New York.
Q-They were agitated in the press all over
the country!
A-They were commented upon.
o. wish YOU would state briefly to the
jury the substance of this dissension here in
Washington aud New York as matter of evil
al, 4 tl.,
minated in the resignation of the Senators
from New York?
Al do not exactly know the sense of the
question.
Q-Were there any such troubles?
A-uh yes. there were very sharp differ
ences of opinion.
S-Yes. s.e '"@'@ "'' "''' "''' "' 'p''''"'
Q-What did they consist of?
A-The acts that created differences?
Q-There was more than one act in that
connection.
A-If you will specify any particular one |
will give my opinion upon it.
Q-Perhaps if call your attention to the
conduct of certain individuals, you can an
swer. How was it with Senator Conkling of
New York! Did he do ANYTHING )r say any
thing that led to that trouble that famed the
difference or promoted it?
A-What difference Uaughter.)
Q-In the Republican party.
About what
Ooh !. of course if YOU do not know you
needn't answer.
Aft Senator Cenkling spoke he must
have spoken about some particular thing.
o. don't want any long disqustion.
simply ask you to state to the jury the sub
stance of the trouble in the Republican par
ty.
Al do not exactly see the point which
the counsel desires me to testify to- | have no
reluctance to testify and hope he will not
construe my answer in that way. The Presi-
dent had appointed Robertson as collector of
customs at New York, and on that and the
propriety of it there grew a feeling between
him and his administration and the Senator
from New York.
Mr. Scoville-Now if you will go still
further and state what happened after the
disagreement grew up. What resulted from
it
Al am sure | can make a political speech
of two hours and half on the subject Laug-
teri If you will ask specific questions |
will answer them.
Q-What was done if ifanything by the sena-
tors from New York after disagreement
arose with the administration Did thev re-
sign
A-They resigned, yes sir.
Q-When was that
Al think the resignation was on the 2Sth
Of May. OF that will not be positive
(Potte, Dist. Att'y.) Am l correct!
Dist. Att'y-It was earlier than that about
the 18th.
Prisoner etly)-Sixteenth of May.
Scoville-We will say the 9th of May
What was the cause Of their resignation.
A-Dscontent with the Presidents acti on
in appointing Robertson.
Q-What followed Immediately after in re-
lation to the election of their successors?
Al am very certain I do not see what
counsel desired me to testify about If You
ask any question specifically will ans~ er it.
Mr.. Scovlle-Did not considerable feeling
exist for several davs here in the Senate and
in Washington over that matter of disagree
ment?
Ayes.
Q-That resulted in the recognition of
those Senators. did it not?
Witness nodded assent.
Q-The next step was to elect successors
in New York?
Q-And the matter came befo re the Legis-
lature and resulted in struggle there?
Another nod.
Q-TIow long did that continue?
A-The struggle continued until long after
the President was shot.
Q-And commenced Immediately after res
ignation?
A-Yes.
Q-Did that struggle generate or keep up
the feeling that existed and caused the resig-
nation2
Mr.. Davidge-I must object to that exami-
nation. 1t is taking too wide a range
ScovilIe-If the court please it may be. and
we consider it important to show that there
was quarrel in the republican party that it
was outspoken and persistent, and that in
stead of being healed it was growing wider il
possible so that even the death Of the Presi.
dent did not interrupt the daily chickering's
and strife that existed in the legislature at