Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1881-12-09

municatiOn OF w. b. Bend and I'd. ) Bean,
for reduction of rent of Market Hall, report
in favor Of allowing the military companies to
drill in said hall during the coming winter at
i SIS per night, providing the city does not
pay for lighting or HEATH e the hall.
A. ALLEN, Chairman.
| Adopted.
OF Committee appointed by Council to
test steam fire engines
Committee present majority and min
ority report in reference to the test of
steam fire engines as follows:
Minority r.port--
ST.. PAUL, Dec. 6, 1881.
The undersigned members of the board Of
4 Judges, appointed by your honorable body
concur in the above report, excepting that
i portion thereof recommending the purchase
of La France engine, believing, as we do, that
| your honorable body has all the information
necessary to make purchase.
FRANK BREWER,
| j. G PRENDERGAsT,
E. B. BIRGE.
Majority report
ST. PAUL, Dec. 5, 1881.
To the Honorable, Common Council of the
city of St. Paul.
GENTLEMEN: Your committee, appointed
for the purpose of testing, examining and re-
porting on fire engines would respectfully
submit the following report:
We deem it unnecessary 10 burden this re-
port and eHcr zach upon your time by formal
account of the place of holding and circum-
stances Of the trial as the council are, doubt
less. already. we'll informed In regard to those
particulars.
Your committee held meeting November
%, the day preceding the test, with Mr..
Brewer in the chair, and elected e. T. Osborne
chairman and G. T. Corning secretary, and ap
/ NJ cir n,t,.
| then requested Mr.. Brewer to remain ID the
chair, and the commi tee proceeded to make
such arrangements in regard to carry ng out
the printed list of tests as the limited time
would admit In this we were ably and
promptly assisted by the vario members of
the fire department, especially Chief
Engineer Strong. The fist test: To
raise steam from cold water, and to
| throw $50 feet through $50 feet huse, / 4 inch
smooth nozzle; was won by aud awarded to
the Sllsby engine.
| The Second Fest-To play through 800 feet
hose, X inch smooth nozzle, ten hours TIL
out shutting off; was won by and awarded to
the Silsby engine.
The Third 1est-PlaY through two lines,
ESQ feet each, to twoway -slamese, with so
| feet leading no e, "makng four stream Il
| inch smooth nozzle, time to play thirty min
| utes; was won by and awarded to the Silsby
engine.
The Fourth Test-Play through 1000 feet
hose, TX inch smooth nozzle, vertical stream,
| time to Dlay thirty minutes; was won by and
awarded to the Silsby engine.
The Fifth Test-Play through $50 feet hose,
| TX inch smooth nozzle, time to play thirty
minutes; was won by and awarded to the
Silsby engine.
The Sixth Test-PlaY through two lines $50
feet each, LIZ inch smooth nozzle, time to
play thirty minutes; was won by and awarded
10 the La France engine.
The Seven Test-Play through 1000 feet
hose, II inch nozzle, horizontal stream, time
to play thirty minutes; was won by and award
ed to the Silsby engine.
The first steam was awarded to the La
France engine,
To save time, the seventh test was, by mu
tual consent, allowed to follow the fourth
test, and the slime to play" in the fifth and
sixth test shortened to fifteen minutes each.
The full details of the test appear in the ac-
cOmpaDying record.
1t is but justice to say that in the test for
first water at the nozzle, raising steam from.
cold water, the engineer OF the La France en-
CINE was misl in regard to the raising of
steam, by clogged guagr, which fact, in the
opinion of your committee, placed him at a
disadvantage in the test Thi, irregularity
made it necessary to substitute another guage
in its place.
thrown by the La France engine within its
limits was the more solid and compact of he
two.
Owing to the limited time of this commit
tee before the tests In which to arrange de-
tails, the quantity of oil used by the two en-
gines was not accurately recorded.
There is also some doubt as to the
quantity of coal used especially by the La
France, as a load of coal was delivered to AMI
Dpo nod folxo fh,.I
weight of which is unknown to This commit |
tee. But as near as can BIZ ascertaned the La
France burned ID, 600 pounds for the whole
test and the Silsby 8,7UO pounds.
A large portion of this extra amount of
coal burned by the La France machine was
used by trying to make a small machine do
the same work that large one was doing, and
also during a large portion of the forenoon of
the first and afternoon of the second day the
La France was blowing off steam as on ac-
count of the small suction and height above
the water, it could not get water enough or
its full capacity. The Slsby on the contrary
kept it's pressure down and ran for economy
as well as results, blowing from Its safety
valve bnt once and then for few moments
only.
On the completion of the printed tests there
still remained the work of examining the con
struction of the two machines, and how ey
came out OF the trial. Accordingly Messrs. |
Osborne, Prendergast, Corning, Bryce. McAfee
and Graw were appointed as subcommittee to
visit the two steamers, examine them and re-
port upon their mechanical constructions
probable durability and characteristic |
Joints. The report of this said sub commit
tee as made part of this report, is as follows:
ST PAUL, Dec. 2, 1881.
To the Chairman of the Committee on Test
ing Fire Engines:
SIR: Your subcommittee on examination
of the cOnstru cton of the two fire engines
which this committee was appointed Ia test,
examine and report on, hereby submit the fol- |
loving: /
By mutual consent of the whole sub-com<|
mitree, Messrs. Prenderga-t, Graw and Bryce, |
withdrew, except to the extent that Mr.. Birg-
was TO render the remainder of the committee |
any assistance they might need from him.
We have very carefully examined, measured |
and compared Jhe various elements, parts md
pieces of the two machines, taking nearly two
days for this work,
We have had them opened for our inspec
ton and have had full and complete
explanations from the agents of both makers |
We find that although the Silsby machine is
the largest of he two, and has Won all but
one of the tests to which 1T was subjected, and
is well made in every respect, yet there are in
the organic construction of the La France
machine clemens of merit not possessed by
the Slsby; that as a machine it is superior in
its construction and adaptabillty to our USE
And as mechanics, citizen, taxpayers and in
-sured, we believe it for the best interests of
our city to buy a La France machine
ALI of which is respectfully submitted.
E. F. OSBORNE,
CHAs F. CORNING,
II. j. MCAFEE.
Although itlnay seem somewhat anomalous
to the council, that the committe at large
sbou award nearly all OF the tests to one en-
CINE and advise the purchase of the other,
when apparent, the first engine behaved b
ter during the trial, burned less coal,
kept steam better and apparently did is
work better in almost every respect, this
apparent anon ally will vanish when it is under
stood that the sIlsby boiler, engine and pump
is OF much greater capacity than the La