Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1881-11-29

WIS very indignant that he should go on and ge;
LIT; harri1i Wltho,tt consulting me. Astrange way
| toing business muttered the prisoner Later he
| safd: my father was always opposed To nv get
Eng an education. Tie thought all should do wss
| % save my soul, and the only way could save nv
| munity." ~
'How did you get the idea of going to the Oneid.
| Community?" asked Mr. Scoviiie
81 drank it right in from nv mothers mouth. s.
! n speak, no: literally but Gguratively Nv lathe
| was my mother ana father too, and / drank il
| right IN from his influence"
HE DENOUNCED THE ONEIDA COMMUNITY
| very bitterly. He said at Ann Harbor his father
| kept sending him letters about the oneida Com
munity, and publications OF the Community He
| compared the Community with Mormonism, anG
| said:
| 81 hope the q. s. government will wipe out Nor
monism, now that the Community is gone"
| "That'S the way he used to desc me,' the wit
ness said, after describing the various papers sent
| to him once week by his father He said that
in studying these papers late at night in additi On
to his regular studies, that he had hurt his eyes.
| into the community.
'If he had been out of the way" said the pris-
| oner,"I would never have come under that fanati-
| cSm."
why do you call it fanaticism?" asked Mr..
| Scoviile.
81 look upon the whole thing" said the prisoner,
pounding his fist upon the box eXcitedly. "as a
| wicked fanaticism The whole theory or that
Community was that which would enable that
man NoyeS to sleep with some young girl That
was the whole theory of 1t. l was Practically a
Shaker and so were the rest of the men. We had
o M 70 ao MIN the women The only idea that
| lett would be damned"
"When you left did you believe you would be
damned?"
-, Yes, as much as believe am alive"
The prisoner said the influence OF the Commu-
| nifty hung over him for year afterwards and he
| could hardly resist the influence.
After went to New York. he said, "and be-
came member of the Young Mems Christian As
| ISOLATION, and joined Mr.. Beechers church. came
| under new influence"
"Did JOnn II. NOyeS." asked Mr.. Scoville shave
any views On inSiliratOn?"
"Oh, most decidedly" said the prisoner "IIe
| Claimed tlat his Community was the beginning of
| heaven on earth, and that he Gods prophet"
Ihe prisoner related at considerable length. his
fathers views on religious subjects. ellis father"
| Christ"
GUITEAU SAYS HIS FATHER WAS A CRANK
Mr. Scovlle having asked concerning the elder
Guitaau's professed power of healing the prisoner
| said:
"He was crank; terrible crank on that"
"What do you mean by crank?"
"That is a short way of saying that man is very
| badly insane"
man and a very honest man. The prisoner dated
his conversion to the Oneida views In 1859; these
fathers influence; he had adopted his fathers
views regarding faith as healing power to some
extent; he remembered once when he had a pain
In the head he said: ''Get away from me old
devil" The community people did not believe in
doctorS they thought when a man was sick he
was possessed OF devil; he had dropped this idea
when he dropped the Others. after Joining Mr.
Beecher's church "Mr Beecher," he said, sswas
supposed to be a virtuous man at that time. His
church stood well. know nothing about it now !"
At this point, IL 80 pm, the court took recess
for half an hour.
THE RECESS
served to show how densely the spectators were
crowded into the court room, for it Impossible
to move through the passages. There was large
crowd OF people outside still striving for admit
tance, and their struggles at the door helped to
make up state OF delightful confusion. The pris-
Oner and jury were taken from the room as usual.
The marShals deputies We're kept quite IS busy
during the recess arranging the crowd as during
The half hour before the court opened.
Guiteau Resumes His Narrative.
The court reassembled at 1:10 pm. The pris-
oner, when brought in, was placed on the stand.
The prisoner, on further examination said he left
the Community in April, 1865, went to New York,
then went to Hoboken and took room.
IS What did you go to New YORK for?"
. IL made p my mind that was in he'll" said
place would have respite. Another reason that
went to New York, continued the prisoner, swas to
shoWn IN s e Weh has n
with printers, reporters and others regarding this
R@goeet pro- "l pfop1seda he said .to name my paper
newspaper fellows thought that was enough to
damn the thing"
The prisoner continued, that he gradually began
August he thought OF going back to the cOmmuni-
ty; he was haunted there with the idea that per
hapS he had missed his salvation by leaving the
community; he got out prospectus of the paper,
copies of which he sent to Mr. Scoville and to the
great theocratic paper, which would the Organ OF
the Deity in this world; he proposed to dig up all
went went back to the agency OF the community in New
York In August and lived there till November,
then s,n ne returned to the Oneida Community, re-
Mr.. Scoville having referred to the elder Gui
teau's charge that he Nhe prisoner) was persecu-
ting the Community, the prisoner said: '.That was
the time that I threatened to blow them up The
only reason didn't do it because didn't want
It known that l had been connected with the
thing" He had not followed up his appeal for the
same reason, and had not pressed his suit on ac-
count OF the disgrace OF being connected with the
Mr. s. asked If he had his fathers letters.
NO, SIT; destroyed ever letter my father wrote
me- MH ges tne ;acenrsed thing out OF my mind
nity."
He FELT JUST LIKE FRED. DOUGLASS IN BONDAGE.
Beng asked how he felt when in the community
the prisoner said: 81 felt like slave all the time
was there Mr. Frederick Douglass" said the
prisoner, motionfng towards Mr.. Douglass, 81 re-
member read his life in Bondage while there,
and remember felt just as he says he did In
bondage"
leader OF the community. In the summer and fan
ne worked in the trap shops and In the winter he
WoIktu III the kIUcnen. lie relaJeu at some length
ana with great emphasis, Slapping his fists against
the bOx, the circumstances connected with his de-
parture from the community.
GUITEAUs DISGUST FOR PLAIN FARE.
With some disgust the prisoner spoke Of the
plain fare on which the communists lived; he
gradually elbowed his way out Of the community
and little by little got the scales OFF his eyes; he
stayed in New York until July, 1867; he didn't try
to get employment, because he had all he could
do to fight the influence that pressed him to 60
back to the community.
GUITEAU's FEAR OF BEING ETERNALLY DAMNED.
"The idea, }" he said, 'that was to be eternally
damned haunted me- and haunted me, and haunt
ed me-" bringing his fist down earnestly after each
repetition.
HE APPLIED TO Mr.. TILTON,
OF the Independent, for work. After visiting Chi
cago Mr. Tflton told him: s.This newspaper is
splendidly shipped; there is no chance at ALL"
vile.
81 wanted to get position as writer, or some
thing OF that kind"
"On the editorial staff" inquired Mr.. SEQ
vile.
60 On the editorial stan. replied the prisoner