New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1881-08-19
purpose Of his return to this city He exhibited his

uSuai nervousness Wnlle ue talked.
" You ask me-" lie said when concluded tC
come back. 1t was my purpose TO come hack from
the very moment of starting. One of tho objects OF
my going away was to bring about a public
discussion of my case. Sect This OBJ
jeet was accomplished, as much has been said to
show the feeling of the people regarding my extra
dition. Here is another reason why I left this
country: Fearing arrest through the talk of AS
sistant Secretary HIT wished to gain time to pre-
pare my defence. The Gar, you See, is always pre-
pared. lie has millions"'
DO you feel assured now Of having public SYN
pathy Oh your side -
From the tone of the maioritv of the
leading newspapers in this city and Boston
l have formed the idea that the people
would not favor my surrender. But right is
not might. The Government may take arbitrary
measures: that do not yet feel perfectly secure
of going unmolested. l am ready now to meet any
emergency; yet may say that while think there
possible -'' NV
Upon what DO you base your conclusions regard
ing your eXiraditioup
We'll, upon the opinion of the leading legal
authorities il the world President Grevy. of
France, among them Not on my case it is true.
but upon a similar caSe-that OF Ledru R0in. The
nam point is this; There is no doubt that thu of
fence fence with whch Tam charged was political act.
ment denoniinate such acts political hpt the late
Gar himself pronounced them the acts Of conspira-
toiS Every attempt al tnt ne OF SAFETY or the
Car, or any member OF his family is pronounced IN
the Russian laws political offence. punishable by
death Moreover. verbal insult to member of
the koyai family Is capital offence"
They would really hang, man, would they, for
being indlscrect enough 10 be inipolItef'
That's the law. and law Is law in Russia. They
wOuld hang him, indeed. Ordinary attempts at
murder without any political nature only pun
shable with fifteen years OF penai servtudc. Mur-
der itself Is not punished with death. Notorious
robbers who have killed more than of per-
sons have escaped the scatfold being simply sent to
" 1t urged by some that the attempt to XII! the
Car IN which you took part became common
CRIME because II involved the lives of innocent per-
sons %
~ As fact, nobody was injured by that explosion
The Governor-Generai of Moscow autographed 20
tie official organ of the Government brief account
OF the event, adding these words No person on
the tram was either injured or killed by the expo
" But might not many innocent people have been
killed ~
"Stin it would rot have been common crime
because crime takes It's character from tie motive
OF It's pefpetrator 1t ls difficult for Americans to
clearly tho distinction between common crime
and political offence. because you virtually here
have no such thing as political CRIME. In Euro
pean countries il Is different"
here Mr.. Hartmann handed the reporter doom
ment on which tie ink was hardly dry. II was a
paper on winch was written the declaration of his
intention OF becoming citizen of the United States
" 1t is presumed that you had little regret in re-
nouncing your allegiance to the Car " suggested
the re orter
have never considered myself in allegiance to
him." replied the Nihinst, laughing And as AN
not yet citizen of the United States am citizen
OF the world. My love for the citizens of Russia
will always remain, and will do all in my power
TO right their wrongsn
Has any measure been taken to your knowledge
oy Inc russian Government to secure your person ~
Il have 40 know ledge of any official correspond
ence there arr detectives empl yed by Russia 10
watch my movements. You would find some of
them at the door now. Yes, ready to act, If they
should be armed with authority. Once have been
warned of plot to kiGnap me but have little fear
of this" ~
What are your plans?"
Ii tile guesti u of my extradition is not settled
soon shall go on with my work without regard 10
the matter at all. As have stated before Iexpcc,