Daily globe., 1881-11-18

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more or less filled every morning with gentle.
men who were applying for more places than
the administration had discretion to bestow.
He was like others, persistent In
his application, and coming and
coming again, and coming yet again
: finally said he need net have the slightest
expectation of receiving q consulship, and
that did not desire him to speak to me about
it. 1 did not do 1t with any harshness.
the president chose to appoint him you had
no objection? Was not the interview con.
cluded by some such remark. Al shonld
say not l should have had decided objections.
Q-On what grounds? A.-The Paris con.
sulship is very important offioe-an office OF
great consequence, and did not think Guiteau
belonged to a rank and class of men that
would naturally be assigned to 1t:
.Q,For what reason? A.-F9r the .S;ai1 very
the man of too insufficient consequence. Such
an important office is always assigned to q
gentleman of conspicuous rank for intelligence
and public service. / did not class him in that
rank.
Q.-By public services-do you mean party
services? Alt may be party services. The
incumbent at that time, George Walker, can
illustrate my meaning. He was gen.
tleman who had performed public service In
the finance department of Massachusetts and
was gentleman of high character, widely and
favorably known. 1 do not think there are
any grounds for misunderstanding.
OIL want to ask If it was
expected and was common in
the distribution of those offices, to pass
them around as rewards for party services!
Al should say that was an element that
always entered into it, and yet not conspic-
uous one. great many eligible missions
abroad are held by gentlemen who never did
party service at all.
Q-Do YOU mean to be understood that on
the whole this element of party service was
not prominently recognized in the distribution
of offices? Al do not mean to be undei-
stood that it was not recognized, only that it
was not the sole basis on which such things
were done, and gentlemen who had nothing
of those claims were assigned conspicuous
public positions.
Q-Was it popularity 10 Guiteau's appli-
cation for office that he based his
claim on party services? Oh no, that is very
common.
Q.-Was it not almost uniform mode OF
operation? A.-As rule think you find
gentlemen who hold conspicuous positions in
diplomatic stations are not those who have
applications for them on file in the depart
ment.
Q.-To come nearer home, how about a
collectorship in leading city? Al am not
the treasury department. Uaughter)
Q.-YOu know nothing about it? A
Nothing but hearsay, and that suppose would
not be accepted. Inever appointed collector
in my life.
Q.-What was the condition of the Repub-
lican party as to unanimity and harmony for
six weeks before the shooting of the president?
A.--(After pause)-There were some dissen-
sions in it.
Q.-They were considerable, were they not?
A-Yes sir.
Q.-They created good deal of excitement
in the country? Al should say not in the
country.
o. mean among the people. A.-The
dissessions were largely local. There were diff
ferences between the president and some
members of the party about some matters IN
New York.
Q.-They were agitated in the press al over
the country? A.-they were commented
upon.
Q.-I wish you would state thoroughly to
the jury the substance of those dissensions
of evidence. refer to the differences that
eliminated in the resignation of the senator's
from New York. Al do not exactly know
the scope of the question.
Q-Were there any such troubles? A-Oh,
yes, there were sharp differences of opinion.
Q-Were there not acts as we'll as opinions?
Ayes.
Q-What did they consist Of? A-The act
that created the difference.
Q--There was more than one act in that
connection. Aft you will specify any par
ticular one will give my opinion on it.
Q.-Perhaps if call your attention to the
conduct of certain individuals you can an
swer How was it with Senator Conkling, of
New York? Did he do anything or say any
thing that led to that trouble that famed the
difference or promoted it? A.-What differ
ence? Q4aughter.)
ON the REPUBLICAN partye About
what?
Ooh, of course, if you do not know, you
spoke he must have spoken about some par
ticnlar thing.
Q.-I do not want long disquisition. 1
stance of the trouble in the Re-
publican party. Al do not exacly
see the point about which counsel desires me
to testify. have no reluctance TO testify and
hope you will not construe my answer in
that way. The president had appointed Rob.
inson collector of customs at New York, and
out of that and the prOpriety of it there
grew up feeling between him and his ad-
ministration and the senator from New York
Scoville-Now if you will go a little further
and state what happened after that disagree
ment grew up-what resulted from it? Al
am sure l can make political speech OF two
hours and half on The subject. (Laughter)
If you will ask specific questions l will an
swer them.
Q.-What was done if anything
by the senators from New York after the dis
agreement arose with the administration!
Did they resign? A--They resigned-Yes, sir
Q-When was thaLe Al think the resig-
nation was on the 2Sth of May. Of that will
not be positive, Ito the district attorney)-Am
l correct?
District attorney-It was earlier than that
about the 18th.
The prisoner (quietly)--The 10Th of May.
Scoville-We will say the 10th of May.
What was the cause of their resigning? A
Discomfort with the presidents action in ap-
pointing Robertson?
lation to the election of their successors? A
am very certain I do not see what counsel
desires me to testify about.
Davidge-1n your cross examination, Mr.
Scoville, you are at liberty to ask leading
questions. You ought to question more spe-
officially.
Witness-H you ask any question specif-
cally will answer it.
Scoville-Did not considerable feeling exist
Washington, over that matter of disagree
ment. Ayes.
Q-That resulted in the resignation of the
senators, did it not? Witness nodded assent.
Q-The next step was to elect successors IN
New York. Another nod.
C-And the matter came before the legisla-
ture and resulted in struggle there? An
other nod.
Q-How long did that continue? A-That
struggle continued until long after the presi
dent was shot.
Q-And commenced Immediately after the
resignation? Ayes.
O. Did that struggle quiet or keep..up the
feeling that existed and caused the resignation!
Davidge-Imust object to that. The exam
nation is taking too wide range.
Scoville-H the court please it may be, and
we consider it important to show that there
was quarrel in the Republican party: that 1t
was outspoken and persistent, and that instead
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