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The Jasper weekly courier. [volume] (Jasper, Ind.) 1858-1922, 1881-03-18

D-l5F u-ly &C IT rlnuAf-
J.E. MARTIN. Pres
:V,srlA, l':E'a! ! E;!sls Railway,
TIME CARD IN force Jan. 9th, 1881.
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Mail 10 Leaves 40 ami Arr Il M, ami Arr 10 81 AN
Arc. No. 4 I'D pm. 8 90 pm :. 6 10 pm
Mall ~. Arr 10 - am. Lxs 90 Ann Lvs is an
Acr No cl rm.; 4 200 PM; " rs pm
Persons c.n 70 - Evansville and he III the city four
and half hours and return 10 Jasper Tie same day u
% i.ockport and stAy four ana half Aosrs.
r<J-Ileke,s N Ernpsxille ~ IS Hound frip a ao
,. b. Kr-.>rx- Agt
November 18th. IsSo.
, 1881-09-11

TT Is extremely unfortunate that the Rev.
DR.. Parkhurst saw fit in closing the ease for
the prosecution against DR.. Thomas 1o i'll
dulee III the following unworthy insil,l.ation: !:
IN conclusion Or. I'arkhurst said land he re-
marked that he was ,Jaiucu tn say III tint there
were gray -hcAslcd fathers and mothers In chl-.
Csig0 vino were weeping the downfall of
their s',1s i'll t:anclns. tIeAtrc-g going cnrt play
ing. ann arlnkt1c, which ncgun When they nc:
cciied DR.. 1honaS teachings.
There was no evidence il the case to warrant
this acquisition. Dr. Parkllurst had no right
to nalle it unless liz was prepared to produce.
his weeping fathers and mother>.'' If
there are any fathers anu mothers III Chicago
weepin. for that cause, they ,lre doing Dr.
Thomas great injustice Itdocs 10 credit
to their good sense or candor that they should
attempt to hold him responsible for faults Of
youth that are more likely due to the irnl,.l-
e,ence t,r severity of foolish parents. There
is nothing In Or. Thomas teachings 10 Ell
courage "drinking.r The downfall WHICH lies
III dancing" ''card-playing.' or "'tilcatrc~
going = Is Il matter for dispute, though we
believe he discouragps I'LL these PRACTICES
Dr. parkhurst may find it extremely incon-
yenieut himself to be held responsible for all
the ial'ses frGnl virtue Of the youthful nenl-
bers OF his flock. Yet it would be is :lp,,rtt-
pirate for DR.. Thomas to say that l1c park
hur>t} has been active lit promoting iultnor-
ality rs it was for him to make the charge
as;llnst Dr. Thomas without :, particle Of
evidence to sustain it. DR.. Parkhurst owes
I'LL apology to Dr. Thomas.
, 1881-09-11

TIE numerous correspondents who are at
Long Branch, watching the Presidents case,
nrc unanimously Of the opinion thut When .s:o
should have been retained, since she was the
to keep in mind the Interesting incidents Of the
sick-cha,Dber. Speaking of how President Gar-
field felt the morning following his arrival ut
Long Brunch she suid:
"Just (, little while after sunrise he looked at
me aud said: Why, the sun is up, isn't it,
Then he turned his head toward the window,
through the blinds Of which few rays Of tha
snu were streaming, and said: : Would yDu
pensc open tha blinds u little. So that Gun geo
II Hood of sunlight came in upon him: Theu
went back to tho BEDSIDE, when he took hold Of
my fan and held IT up to shade his eyes. lie lay
in this position for several minutes. looking
Zood: and, with n sigh Of apparent satisfaction.
turned on his back again. \ little later he
seemed to be listening nttentively, and asked
hlm what ho heard, and ho SAID: How ls 1t [
last night And answered him that tho sea
was very smooth Just then. bus that he could
hour it uE::in 5OOu.
:. Does he lie i'll the same position here thar he
did In the White iIotlsc?"
Yes: most OF the time he lies square On his
back. but to-dny, for the first time, he took
quite nap lying oil his left siac.''
- Does ho Seem at nli incoherent when be
wakes up now:
- Well, no; hut he sometimes wilt start up
suddenly from his sleep and nuke some peculiar
remark. Once to-day. when he woke up. be
saId. As il mttsug: Think it Is lltut time that
they gave me tho datl: papers to read- What is
In them. anyway And said: 'On!y descrip-
you had borne your journey, Your condition..
etc. He Soon fell asleep uxain."
, 1881-09-11

| The Social Science Convention, now in ses-
sion 1T Saratoga, which usually deals with
:tbstruse subjects of very little practical use
| i'll snciefy. took up babies the other day for
consideration. The actual quin tessenees
themselves were not brought III ami cxals,-
ined, but they wero regarded III tile abstract,
which Of course was more convenient to the
scientists and left thon more quiet opportu-
mites for tlleorizing and ilealizins. As very
few Of tho members Of the convention have
babies OF their own, tile discussion WIS not
very practical one, and we must confess
that the results arrtveda ut have about as much
connection with the scltnce OF babies Us they
hnvc with the science Of hydrostatIcs, show
ing that tho ltiost colossal inte!lccts when they
address themselves to the plain matter Of
fact things lit this worlt-and what can be
more matter OF fact than IT baby2-
stttutbie and gfupe about AMI uct
as foolishiy rs ordinary minds do
when they grapple with the Subject
lveness Of the Ego or tho Thingness Of the
Here. The only features of any consequence
in the discussion Of the juveniles were
letter fro1n lfr. Darwin and THE reading Of a
diary kept by HronsIl1 xiicott, i'll which he
AAto0 AhA4AVlo NN!9 NuIll1[ Tile HIST
three months Of his eldest child's existence.
Air. Darwin i'll his communication neglect
ell his opportunity to compare the move
ments Of little babies and little monkeys,
and to trace tile rese1ublauces between tha
dilninutlve human and simian types as in
dlcatiHE common origin. lle dit. not even
care to formulate any theory us to their de-
veiopment, but after asking several ques-
tlons which were apparently Greek to the
convention, but which any ordinary mother
or chiidrclls doctor could answer tor him
addressed himself to the tremendous uropt,-
sltlon whether there is any uniformity. in
different children, in the pitcl; Of the
noise they make under various frames
of mind before they can articuIate.
Any mother with healthy brood
Of children could inform him there
Is hot, but that they express their Joy or dis |
gust a1ld make their inarticnlate demands |
for sustenalicc and their protests against
gr1pes and pin-stickings In every possible |
note o1 the dl:stonic and cllromatic scales. in
MAJOR a1 MINOR, IN sllarps and fats, double
saarps ant double flats, in perfect. tlimin-
1s1letl' and augmented Intervals, In tcn,po
primo, tempo Eiusto, ristesso teiupo. ami
tempo rubato, and ii there be any other wav
OF making noises they make it that way also
the frame Of mind and the particular pitch
OF the s1nail howl depending entirely unon
Tue sharpness OF tht pin and the depth of its
puiicturp, tile tension anu tierceucss of tha
grip OF the collie, or the infants like or dis.
like of the riSibiiities of the alleged ce1es,,a,
visitants. So much for Mr.. Darwin.
Mr. Bronson 4 fcntf cn,,sr;hr+o,, :, |
Oh his colossal observations, from which We
, 1881-09-11

ANOTHER Indian war, but of small din,en-
sions, Is threatened. For soule time past the
Southern Utes have been fleeing front their
presen! reservation in order to avoid being
transferred to the new reservation set apart
for them III Utah, and some Of those that re-
main threaten 10 resist removal. Tile women
ami children are being removed, in order, as
it is reported, to give the warriors better
opportunity to take to the war-path. The
United States authorities lave tislrly war1,-
ing, however, and will doubtless be prepared
to give good account OF anY troublesome
redskins that may turn up.
, 1881-09-11

tue new management: of the Western Union
monopoly was reduction III tile wages
or operators, the effect Of which was to
drive the best men from the company's e,1l-
ploy, and to fill their places with ignorant
a1ld incompetent. operators. 1t is tile old
story over agains Of monopoly. greed, and
indifference to the public interest II tho
public complains there is 10 remedy; it
Must take poor service or none at all, and
tile only consolation. to be found in the sit
tlation is in the certainty that this state OF
things cannot continue forever, and the
probability that the public will not much
longer remain helpless for lack Of compcti-
ton III tile business Of teIegraphy.
, 1881-09-11

! learn that his Oldest child slept the most Of
the time for the first few days after it
| was bonn; that on the tenth day after
| birth it's features assumed some expressive
hess and it slept less; that Oil tie fifteenth
day it noticed watch. though the infant
! phenomenon did not demand to see the
| wheels 70 round; that On the twentieth t}ay
| It's existence was more pleasurable, because
| it didn't cry so much; that OH the th!rtiett
day it heard voices and caught a glimpse ot
itself in 4 mirror; that on the fortieth 1ay it
listened longer TO voices and enjoyed itself
looking out of 4 window, that OIL the sixteth
day it noticed 4 vase Of flowers and s,riiyu at
it; that TN the SEVENTEEN day it caught
glimpse of its mothers ring anu exhibited
pleasure; that Oh the seyenty-seyenth day it
distinguished colors; and that on the Seven
ty--eighth day it was taken OUT into the yard.
grew uproarious over the spectacle, ami
could grab thing and hold it. At this roiDt
the diary closes, and tile world has lost what
this wonderful child did during the remain.
der of its babyood. The frs question that
occurs to one after reading the diary of tia
colossal intellect which first announced to
the world that actaality Is tho Thineness Of
the Here, is ''Nhat Of it:" Since every
;,o,,,. fro,, E,-.::. r., t,,a I,tcst on,,+an,n
,,.,,,,,s ,,roInnt;one l,,,., ,,o,a tha ..
th;,1s and s;nca a..or,. h,hv-whir. h1aa,A
or copper-colored Esqnin,aux, Patasonian.
Chinese. llottentot. or American, big, little
pour, or rich, Child Of Il (ock-laborcr or child
-,f :, ,,,,ar,.I,--.h,. rarfnrma,l th;s ,r,r,.'.A
~ s,a,,,;n,r crying sanin., stna,,inr 1870
tn,,o1,;,,g u.hrrnin lid ,tr a1cot,,, o,5ost
t,ffor fro,, .,,,, otbar oldest sinca tho d.,..
Nh, .nd vrn, w,e II necessary t,r W. ~
.ot. r. crrinv tl;s aston;.h;ny rocor. -.
no,h,nynnss nnon IN :f11jrtcL worl1. ~.
a1,ntt,s reacctions or tba cnnch, sion ~ IL,
,1;,rv, ,ra ,e st,,t,;nclv nrofonnd and 49,.
1,,,l &c Tho ,1;,,v ;,sa1f ,rha gra,+ ,,,,;,.-o.
,,hor cove.
uow won,,crfof i thu nroqrcss or rfnfcncx. Inn,
involved in mystery. liepcascd und successive
ctS nI ;oc d sensf5 , as d M ot tha
Of the mifd are unlike the movements We np:..
III the matter. we snnnot nn,rin ot tafs II Is: as
ton is 70 be made tn it, and now thAr: nav it i.
, 1881-09-11

rus, which will number about 1000 voices,
will represent the American and German 70.
calists Of Chicago. III New York and Cill-
cin1latl helpls called III from other places.
| Our chorus will be a Chicago chorus; AMI
we believe that chorus will acquit itself with
credit. We need not enlarge upon AIr. Tonl-
Inns abilities as I; chorusnaster. What I,o
can TO has been shown over and over again.
lie has elevated his own Special society to a
! position where 1t has made a National repu-
'tation, and can challenge any siluilar society
| III the United States to surpass it. lie has
eight months time in which to prepare his
chorus, and the systematic manner i'll which
he has divided up his time shows how thor
| ough he intends his work to be- Mr.. Thorn
as himself will visit Chicago several times
during tho winter tU note results, and with
these two men ut the helm, there is certainly
no reason to doubt a great success.
The existence Of this chorus and its win
ter's work for the purpose mentioned not
only affords splendid opportunity for
musical education aud rare experience in
vocal work, but the training of thousand
voices, lnany Of which have not before had
The exDericncc, must stimulate the many
other avenues of musical education. To the
manly students who live in tho vast territory
OF the Northwest Chicago can afford facili-
ties for study: but hitherto. with all the ad-
vantagcs of good teachers and schools, Chica-
go has lacked that art-atlnosphere which
apart from a1ld independent Of lessons tends
to develop musical cultivation. The con-
certs, soNs~recitals, natintes, and mt.si-
cales will BE- supplemented by the over
shadowlng influence of the great festi-
val, and it will supply the atmosphere
I'll which they will grow and flourish all the
more luNuriantly. It is very narrow
view of the situation which assumes that
the smaller departments of musical effort
are to BIT tlwarfed or prejutticcd by the
Festival. Music has never been SO general
or ren,lncrative In Cincinnati rs since her
festivals, ind the same will happen here.
We have only considered the festival from
a few musical points Of view. 1t might be
presented in many others with equal force,
for 1t appeals to the public for recognition
and support in every possible way. We be-
lieye 1t will be recognized and sustained in
the halldsomest manner, for Chicago people
are not in Tie habit OF making failures when
they undertake great ventures
, 1881-09-11

Alls WALTER, the proprietor Of the London
Times, reached New York tho other dag, and
wus, Of course. promptly interviewed Among
other things, Mr. Walter said that the American
press was provincial. whereupon MIR. Dana. Of
the Sun, ever OH the. alert to rrpel boarders,
discourscs us follows:
Mr. Writers meaning is that the American
press Is more provincial than thd English, be-
causc America IS provincial. Such us Is tha
country. such Is The press. American Is pretty
1Mr 1r removed from the capital uf the world.
1aat captta1 IS London, sinc. the centre Ut tho
ca[tn Is England Things which are interesting
in London ant IN England are not provincial:
anu nj things which do not interest London and
En4iano are provincial. A hoEse-racc, fur in-
anu which thousundso Ut Eny!ishmen xo to ace, u,
IN tne view OF tho Times, something cosmopolitan
l." IT'S nature; white hDrse-ruce in America Is
tio!eAy PROVINCIAL although the hurses and the
racing III the latter Instance may be immensely
to these in the former.
, 1881-09-11

THE Rev. Dr. Thomas, in an Interview
with TRIBUNE reporter yesterday, said he
would submit to the decision of the Church
jury for the tinle being, but that he would
certainly appeal to the Annual Conference.
He was panied, he said, ut the verdict rest-
dered, he expected to be acquitted OIL nil tine
charges preferred against him. 1t is uttte
evident, however, FROM what DR.. Thomas
said, that he is not very sanguine Of Il fayora-
bic verdict from the Conference.
, 1881-09-11
THE New York Stn las the following to
say concerning that self-i1nportant and very

THE New York Stt1. las the following to
say concerning that self important and very
susall-tuinded person, Edmund Yates:
Mr.. Edmund Yutes, the editor 1T u, paper called
the uVrtt, published III London. said recently in
speaking Ut Il certain cists5 nj ntll5lnevS. that
- they should be avoided like Americans or
Frankfort Jews" THE Tl:1ECSE thinks that str.
yates received great hospitality during his vsit
70 thts country several years ago. md that bis
In regard to entertaining him ut dinner and
treating him with puteness; hut this was not
what alr. Yates desired here. lie knew that Nr.
Thackcray auu Mr. Dickens hu'l found great
success and had gained 1nuch money b. lec1'lr-
1n1 ana rtaAi!!x III this Country. and his hope
WAS that the Yankees would come in crowds to
the lcctures be wished to give them, and Hi biz
pockets with their cueh. In this. however, he
was disappointed The lectures were dull and
the Yankees uvui'lc,l them; and Mr. Yates in
turn thinks thAt the Yankees ought to he avoid
ed. tE the way, did not Mr.. Thackeray de-
scribe Mr Yates himself sort Ut nuisance!
There Is u tradition of that kind.
, 1881-09-11
TRIBUNE BRANCH OFFICES.

TEr CHICAGO Tn1hrSE has established branch
Offices receipt Of subscriptions ADVERTISE
ucnts follows:
NEW YOKk-1ioom = Tribune Building. F.T. NC
FAnDES, Manager
GLASGOW. Scotland-Allan's American News
Agency, Il He1ded-s:-
LONDON. Enc--A.nerican Exchange. al9 Strand.
HENRY F-GILLlG. Agent
NAaH1NG1OS. H. t.-f;:s r street
, 1881-09-11

ity cannot help but make mankind better
and nobler 4 halt is called to the too rapid
growth of the absorbing passion Of selfish
ness. The better nature Is touched and
aroused into activity. Beneticcnt deeds fol-
low. anti they tend more strongly to enl-
phasize the kinshp Of mankind. The tel
cerapll, the railway. and the steamship coli
stitute Il great triple humanfzlng force which
couples the unilicatlon OF peoples and pow
erfully promotes the cause of universal BROTH
erhood among men.
, 1881-09-11

THE President gained slightly yesterday,
notwitlstal,dn. the stormy and dlsasreclbIe
weather which prevailed at Long Branch.
The patient expressed himself as feeling
much better III every way, and the ply
sicians regard all the symptoms rs quite ell
couraging. On the whole, yesterday WIS
perhaps the best Saturday he has passed
since the shooting
, 1881-09-11

A AFEE1GnT-T1:AIS OIL the Valley Railroad
was thrown from the track near the Erattie-
roro tVt) depot yesterday. Thirteen cars
Erere wrecked. Soine fell fifty feet. Three
t1akemen jumped TO escape. One Of hem
Vas killed, another was fatally Injured.
The wrecked cars were loaded with scales.
, 1881-09-11

THE Spaniards seem to be greatly excited
against France because Of the failure of the
latter Power to compensate the Spanish s1lf-
ferers by the Algerian raids or Oran unless
Spain considers the French claims for i'll
juries in Cuba aud Spain. 1t is thought that
the differences will lead TO violent debates i'll
the Spanish Cortes when ii rcassclmbles.
, 1881-09-11
BAD TELEGRAPdIG SERVICE.

Within The past few months the character
OF the service performed by the Western
Union Telegraph Company has detcriorated
i'll 50 marked Il degree as to excite general
comment alld give rise to Widespread coul-
plaint- Tie New York Herald of Friday
last in I'll editorial states the case as follows:
Why has the Western Cn:ou tcegruphic serv-
ice 50 sadly ,leteroratcd recently: Nearly every
mail 10 the Herald brings numerous complains
CLASSES Oh the subject. The genera! tcnnr OF
these complaints is thut messages from, near as
well rs disinnt poin:s take hours and hours III
transmission, thereby etusiuX Inconvenience
and in many Cases anxiety, l.,ss of time, and,
frequently. loss Vi money. l'o give Que nut uf
many Instances of neificicncy: 4 dispatch
filed ut Lang Branch few days ago 1T 3 q clock
in the nfiertlooh was not delivered until nearly
three hours litter At It's destination OIL fIroau-
iuz. Tic ifsia lis own experience in tho REGENT
al its special dispatches bears ut these charges
OF caresesness. Mssnunagement, nr whatever
other term tha COMPANY: nuy choose to call it.
Matter intended for puhll,,Eion Is delivered III
the most unsatisfactory ,nn,yvr. Tile dispatches
are ia'e: and ws know I, ~. fault of our cor
Respondents. This indiH{ 1<tte.<, the interests
Of the public and the pr.at h. ~ r Ey scundnlous.
plain should tie pronptlv rcui ..scd.
The inefficient anu unsatisfactory service
complained Of in New York is 10 less II dis
agreeable peculiarly Of the Chicago Office of
.l4E ~ tstEtu C!iD!l. iutu ! HE ElELNE IS
prepared to indorse all the Herald says and
more, too. The businessmen Of Chicago IRE
loud in their tault-tinding On the score OF
lnacculacy and delay IN the telegrnphic mes
sascs they send alll receive. Particularly is
this true VI what is knoWn MS the Board Of
Trade branch Of the service. 1t is no u1-
common thing to see the operator In charge
'ot that service besirged by half 4 dozen par
ties having complaints Of one sort or another |
to prefer: and it is saul perfect fout Ut let
tiers Of complaint puurs into tlie Western |
Union office i'll this city every day, the nulll-
ber being so great that to properly inyesti- |
gate. rcctify. and explain woutI require the |
exclusive time of three or four employees. !
The company not bein. disposed to go to
this expense. Of course the great bulk Of the !
complaints remain uninyestigatcd and ur-
answered
The character Of the tclcsrapEic service |
rendered the daily press Of this city, if Tie
I1;iHCNE's experience is a fair criterion, is
positively disgraccful. 1t is inlinilIy i'll
ferior to the service Of ten years ago, when
the science Of telesraplly was comparatively
undeveloped. Not a day or hight passes
Ill TIE TM1;tSE's telegraph room that does
not bring from twenty 10 five times twenty
SAMPLES Of the grossest i1laccurac'
hclcncy, and incompctet1cv r, :, ca3 n,e.s
working force Of to UsEiliUGIldIlu
graph Com
a''' .,1F&T,ri 1-1nf,. r1,>,~-
, 1881-09-11

Is so faulty and worthless that grain out of
condition has been inspected into the ware
house ind certificates therefor have been put
OH the market?. These are questions to
which perhaps no answer can be obtained,
and fur that reason perhaps they will col-
tinue to be asked again and again.
, 1881-09-11

S,--,o, r,orr..nond<nrr NJ r.. fh;-oj Is capable,
H1Co, Colo., Sept. 5.-For some TIM paFt VIII
Cling bands OF Indians have passnp(ore Pc
here on their way to the reserve will bury
Southern Utes. 1t is supposed :he
away from the TncompAb@rc Age, ~ +,,;c
being transferred 10 the new tso.o ',',
Utah. There ire some fears IT, &A1 e""!t
e,isue before the removal IL e1ouHerer9 would
are very unwilling to 20. and SO traverse the
outspokcn have expressed
fight us soon as the women antaln Ill the hope
Of the way. The 10th inst. he. But now tho
day for removal. but, slncf .,.,,xJ -
month. the women nttl child touclest u 1ears
have been slowly going duw1e. cry of distress
ten days ago Il etn;tll band ;,,x- - t4o ,.It
gre passed through heretc " l1es VI lae 4isHI
miles below town. They hi charity pour iii
.,,;ssi,. ~ 1,1 tno 2.r1firer of relief flows
10y; proceeded on region, its current
soapiant thai ihe ho power Of steam.
them. and d:msaded tsympathy, and generos-
, 1881-09-11

Ent<7ed at the {os-oTce Chicz5a. III, a. Second
Ciass Natter
For the benefit Of our patrons who desire IN send
single copies Of THE T:1EESE through the mail. We
give herewith the transient rate ot postn:e:
F"r<fg,s unl Domestic. PR Copy
Eight an6 Tweive Page t'aper. ...-........3 ccnts
, 1881-09-11
effect on all. II has general
tf1af lhnrfa vt,ltffI fla rrt,,,f,tf tc

effect on all. II has gencraii ;
that there would be trouble tot
At1enlDt is made To drive Sitx
hoAt, hut tne position Ut the ii j,
he cannut outAit1 aid from tho =
he has not sufficient men to be It
The reIlluynl Of Sitting bull is t
bitter dissatisfaction among t.
pnny IL, Seventeenth Infantry.
Sitting Bull IN his destination
just come i'll that the Indians
unl ['atl's bands are preparing Il
evident something uns.S,,al is g<,
ST. I.Ci., Mimi, Sept. W.-A
Yates. received Mt midnight. sn,
Of Sitting Full ulld his band
Standing Rock Agency WAS s.ccot
The steamer Sherman arrived
ting lsult had been very def
would die rather tt1n1l
Randall But by careful pre-
by tho commanding Office
were surrounded by Il squu
and forced step by step lowi. tt
boat, which then started down
Randall. 4 Iephcw* Of Sitting Il
resistance. and WIS knocked .io~
end Of a 1nusket. 4 snllaw Of
desperate By the removal, kiIle.
tried to commit suicide. 1t j
preparations at Fort ltandaii
prevent trouble there
, 1881-09-11

oRn1EST.tL LODGE. NO. :sA 4. +. & 4. M-1lall
~ la sa1Ie-st-he=uuTt Communication Friday
+. Il. REEcHEn. ". NJ
CHARLES CATLIN Secretary.
, 1881-09-11

At the Wesleyan Ecumenical Council yes
terday, the topic discussed was ''Methodisln
and the Young" Bishop Simpson said that
lie regretted there was 4 failure on the part
Of Methodist families to educate and tr:lin
the young people, DR.. Bennett declared that
of the children Of Methodists in
~ faXor Of other denominations was
k&7@t isastrous facts III conncc-
, 1881-09-11

BETl4EN CHAPTER No. 81 O. f. S-WisI give
d!ue 1ocjui ut tisc RESIDENCE Ut Mrs x: ilugncs, NJ.
~ West Washing xA,n-st,. Tue>Iay sept -