The Indianapolis leader. (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1879-1890, 1881-12-03
~I AM MY OWN CoUNsEL.Y
MR.. SCOilLLE.

marked feature of the investigation. Judge
f'r'er pressed HIM very closely 10 fix the
day when he rec lived his alleged "tnst,ira
ton To remove the President, and Cutie u
hnally shrieked on, 40 remove all this
| loose talk, | wait you to know that would
| nave removed the President at any lime
between the middle IF Jue and The 3 of
Jaly II | had found the opportunity.
would have done it for the good of the
American people
THE AssAssIN's sHREwDNFss
| Gu.teal was permitted to indulge his pas
| SION fpr talking upon the political situation
! at the time of the shooting, anil, speaking
| ot tie Presidents ingratituds to Grant and
Conklns, he was led by Judge Prter to ad-
ihit that lngratitude is the basest of
crimes"
Judge POrter-Stop. therel What would
You nave Thought of ycnr ac in killing the
President had he given you the Paris Con
sul>hip instead of having refused it?
GuIteau had previously said hat Garfield
was hi (rrisoners) warm personal and polit-
zeal irlend; that no personal motives what
ever were inv lived in his act and fearing
evidently that some trap was being laid for
hlm he heSiiated Il moment and then with
great EN- i'hdsis. Il want To just fastel YOU
soil right here. | would not nave taken
me Paris Con>ulship after the 1T of June II
| had been appointed to il, AID the Presi-
dent and Secretary Blaine hq1 both besepcb
ed me on their knees to take it, | had at
that time resolved to remove tie President
for the good of the American people"
Recess
CASE OF TICKLE ALL ABOUND.
After recess GUi,eau resumed the stand.
lcokirg Very haggari and wOr.i. The cross
examination, however, was ntinued H. be-
lore recess. Gui'eau said he had no special
purpose in using some filttering words to
Blaine. Il simply made d suggestion to him.
III case he assisted me in getting the PARIS
Consul>hip, | should feel bound, in case he
was candidate at the National Convent +,
To assist him. That is the way they do i'm
politics. The Judge understands that is the
way politicians $ get on. You tickle me, |
tickle you"
Question-Did you write President Gar
held letter marked private" in which
yuu SAID, Il intend To express my sympathy
Tor you on account OF the pressure that has
been on YOU since you came TO this city?
A.-les: l wrote that letter. Nv idea was
just this: To express my personal rega d
tor General Garfield on account of the pres
sure on him for office and that i, what |
meant by saying | ,nsdered him my per-
sonal friend. | sympai hize with anv Presi-
dent who has this enormous hoard of Office
seekers at his throat At the times these
letters were written had not the slightest
conception of removing the President If
you want to bring those letters against me-
To show that they were written at the time
when had the slightest conception of re-
moving the President en- YOU are trying
to do what you can not do and will not do
banging the railing violently
GUIrEAU AND CoNKLING.
The prisoner being asked how many times
he had soken with Conkling ON the street.
answered. nfa f1,aC CTR
lie was exceedingly cordial, and he bowed
and said: How do you do, Mr. Guiteau?'
| was on good relations with all those men
during Mar h and April"
Porter (slOwly and with great deliberation)
Did Senator Conkling-
The prisoner Gnterrupting)-0h, don't
look SO fierce al me; | don't care a SNAP of
my fingers for you.
Porter-But you will answer questions?
Prsoner-Put your questions in a quiet
simple sort of way and will.
Porter-Did Senator COnking ever prom
ise to support your application for the Paris
Consulshp?
P-isoner-My expectations about the
Paris COnsulship were I would get il
through my personal influence with the
President, Blaine and Logan; and that when
my NOMINATION went to the Senate Senator
Conkling AMI that sort of men would see it
through but don't think it necessary to
discu S this matter of the Paris Consulsbip
L went over it all yesterday and decline To
discuss it further. There is no use
waiting the time of this honorable Court
on IT. In going over ii again. If you do not
know the facts about IL yet. you had better
read this mornings papers and you will
md them.
THE NAN TO HAVE BEEN SHOT,
The prisoner was asked about the inspra-
ton 'of his suggestion tn Garfield he would
succeed himself in 1884 :" He repied I'm a
resolute tone: Il decline to discuss this
matter any further. You have gone over il
two or three times, and decline To discuss
1t any more. LII your idea was correct ABOUT
my having malice in the matter Blaine was
Tile man Tor me u have shot. WHAT posi-
PIE III VIII Could have had against Gar
HELD! Biane was the man to have been
shot, according your theory. Ny getting
or not getting office had nothing to do with
ii whatever. II only shows how absurd and
nOnselslcal your theory is. Ii General Gar
field had paid respect to those letters il
would have been all right, but what did he
DO! lie went and sold himself soul and
bo'y To Blaine, He did not appreciate the
sentiment and kindness of those letters. but
threw himself into Blaines hands and al
lowed Blaine to Use the Presidency to des-
troy Conkling and Grant.
Q-Did you say 10. President Garfield, he
would have no peace till he got rid of Blaine?
frisoner-Yes, and that was the way the
Sta!wart and liberal papers all over the
country talked. That was the way the