New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1881-12-06
oUrrEAu OBJECTS TO THE TERM VULGAR GRIM

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The prisoner-Nothing vulgar about this case it is
| all high-tOncd.
| Mr.. Dayidge ito the witness)-Assumo that man
! says to yOu: a. en- commissioned by God to say
operations Of that man for six weeks find them 70 be
those Of ordinary man. what weight wonlu you
dtons OF things which You state, have to answer
would not have given any weight 10 his declaauon :,
Q.-Aud You would give much or little welght 20 u
according to the ratio between his conduct and behavior
and operations, and his declaration Al WoaI , hot
| reason logically on false premises -, ,.oo 60
Q.Is any thing common than FOR me INSANE 70
| reason logically false premisesi A-Lhey may AZ
pear 10 do so, but you cannot say now much Iosc '
QIs it net an u6crrng sign insanity for the insane
man well az sane man, OnIy tnal tne III
fTo corlc SreInses A0Eo sr in many 1t
fact but would not undertake to say iaI IL 10 81 III
Mr. scovilIc asked the witness explain his answer
nOn-beief I'm hereafter; and the witness reicu'
that, like many other scientific men, ne was spg r.
angostic that subject He had no evidence upon y,
During pause in the examination the PRISONER oiohe
out into declaration that nis atlelo1 Htu l &c
called to very mpudent discourse Dy ms doln S and
| knew nothing about her. -. 4,
Tue prisoner-I know that but it is so aggravatng
story that it rifles me; and If she comes on he s'au
will make her smart she must have Iaen from Ea
very badly. Her statement is ne IRON oggl Ia 49,
| end When We were together we hFod "ei-"' hi''
Being questioned as to the thinness and haggard APP
OF the prisoner prior to the commission 6 6n o
sanity the witness answered that those symptoms wond
not be more likely to appeal IN the case o s sam insane
man He would not undertake to decide upon the prooa
Mr II a man thinks he is executing Divine
command, has he any wear and tear OF cOnsclehGe
There is wear and very often whore man Is do-
The nrsoner-The wear and is from pressure, not
| from conscience. 10 Mr. Dayidge)-Got your words
right , r., ,. oo,,so q ,ris
and tearl A-Srong decisions very olt2n naY1
great plysica effect the frame OF man Everyone
knows that nere are some non WI" " b t not sborv
murderOns design for five or SIX weeks ana et o sno"
| the slightest physical change -
Gus forms aud types OF INSANITY spoke q. P"EIV's,o
paress of the insane as one OF those forms That produce
The prisoner-What ia the English of THAI Doctor
| We an common folks here and cannot understand
The witness having first obtained permission from the
Court to answer replied that IT form OF insanity
| symptoms; for instance, a man who was penurlQus
| wOud suddenly become eNtavagant ana spehd III,
! money layiShiy IL also attended by "A
strong tendency to believe himself Immensely
wealthy, or immensely strong or so sonnet haso3 o
tremulOus and he would have frequent disturbances OF
| Inyss Johson formerly of Ncw-York Affected
He also spoke Of an inequality In the two sides oil inc
That hits my case exactly. the prisoner broke IN
One side Of my he'd is larger than the other The doc
Where hereditary nimbus exists in does it not
have to SHOW taet sooner or 4ier on ruclrnt cI4'St
1t has ~ show Itself sooner Or latcf
on sufficient
| The prisUncr-My case. Ihlt Is al.
TIE TIME BETWEEN SANITY AND INSANITY HARD
| TO DETERMINE.
| The witness in reply question by Mr. Scoyille,
said that perhaps ouc-fourh Of the Of insanity
that came under his observation were Of this FORM and
IL would hc classed with hereditary insanity Insanity
| Of this character maness itself after puberty Altfr
leofh ccrtan conditions OF the brain found in such
persous which must have existed from birh-a decided
deficiency person affected may be more cNclaule
at times, and more quiet al times That klnd o insanity
rs NOT durable The line between sanity and INSANITY Is
not easily determined II is much easier 10 determine
whether is Stimulating insanity thhn II Is 10 De,
tcrrnne whether he is sane Or insane Insanity always
| follows abnormal brain ,,,.
10 people In the world Al nave not any exact
nary life five nFane and, sooner or LATER they De
| come inmates of insane aSy lnIus. ., ,.,,
Mr. Daydge-That Is all encouraging prospect Tor All
The NE pris"5er to Mr. DayidgeThat would take you
~ r5e Witusss"i mean to say that II talk with
| twenty-five ordinary business Inrn would probably
Mr. Dayidge-Even among business men A.-Yes
NM" Wr D9Vdge-And of conrse among the floating idle
people who have settled occupation the proportion
Mr. Daydge, And one in five is nranel Well az least
| two Of the Jurors are doomed tLaughterl
| MIR. Scovile-PeThaps some OF the LAYERS may take
The witness in describing the border line between
sanity and insanity said that there Is large number Of
men who while not positively insane, are deficient In
| Judgment and cannot be- chased with properly wclba
O. DO YOU mean that general thing Incn Of that
| subjects for insane naFlums A.-NOt
all them, but many OF them do mere are ihrce teH
as many persons outside Of asyiums there are inside
| who are proper subjects for insane asylums
| After a recess Of haitian hour Richard ]. Hinton,
Washington newspaper man. was cal ed He testified to
rooms OF the National Republican Committee la New
York had also read mis- speech Of CARRIED against
thought it illjoined and utterly inconsequentiIL
"That is not true" said the prisoner angry, " The
speech was highly thought of by the best men OF the
Nation. Scovde had no business t. put you on the
stand either ii he puts on any more OF these fool eX-
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making me a fool let him stop. do not take any
stock In this IDEA that a fool because not a
fool and scovle knows it, would rather be hung
sensible man than acquitted az fool u was great
The stand without first consulting me-
The witness on to state that at the Republican
headquarters the prisoner was laughingstock when lie
not an annoyance
yourself who the laughing-stOck and nuisance
around the Republican Headquarters. 10 SIR. Scoyilc
on the stand Will score you up again You had no bust
ncss to put David Davis on the stand II was great
piece Ofimpetincnce Tor you to ask Judge Davis what
he thought about Immediate war did not pretend that
there was going to be war night on DO not take aoy
| party spoke well OF that speech"
ANSWERS TO TILE HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.
The next witness Dr. Charles H. Nichols, Of New
York He that lie is superintendent of the Bloom
mgdale Asylum for the Insane. He has been connected
with insane lus since 1919 and had during all that
! time, made study Of mental disoaSes lie was first
| connected with the New-Hork state Lunauc Asylum,
Utica, then win the BloOMhGIao Ah rum lhSh WIN
the Government Hospital for the Insane for the District
OF Columbia and lastly with the Bloomingdaie Asylum
The propositions in tie Hypothetical question were read
10 the witness and he asked whether, In his Opin-
ION the prisoner insane when he shot Pres
| ident Garfield
The wituess-Tang that Hypothetical case to be true
should think the person described In IL was insane.
Mr.. Daydge-FrOm your personal examination OF the
prisoner aud from testimony, including that given
by himself had he the I'd oil july 1851 when ne shot
James A. Garfield, the knowledge ana mental capacity
to be able judge between right and wrong anu 10 IN
| derstand the nature and quality OF the aCti
Objected TO by Mr.. ScoVlle on the ground tht the
question required witness TO weigh the testimony
! Objection sustained.
Mr. Daydge SAID that under tnc ruling Of the Court he
would have 10 formulate hypothetical question: which
would REQUIRE some time. The witness might therefore,
stand aside and he would be called alterWad on behalf
| OF the prosecution.
The next witness was Dr. Charles Folsom. Of Boston
who testified that the last nine years he had gwen
large portion time to study mental Diseases