The Indianapolis leader. (Indianapolis, Ind.) 1879-1890, 1881-11-19
at the time of the shoouns,, Al was by his

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cumstances as they are familiar to you?
] Witness-I wish To take directions as TO what
point to begin In the narrative
| C.-You met the President by appointment on
\ the morning of the assassination? A.-Yes sir
| On the night of July was engaged with the Pres
| ident until near midnight on public business On
him in the morning before he left because there
| might be some matters IT, which he desired 60
| call my attention. went TO the White Hoa>e in
the morning. reaching there al 9. not later than
some time in conference with the President
| In the Cabinet room and librry--a very
few minutes. | then started with him for the
depot, he riding in the carriage in which went
| TO the White House-the State Department car
iiage In daily use by MYSELF following of
the White House grounds his own carriage in
which his children were carried. under conduct
OF Col IL Rockwell We rode Down The avenue
without any noticeable incident and at IN, der
ate speed On reaching the depot on the street
side the ladies' entrance COMMONLY called we
sat a moment finishing the subject on which we
were then eomyer>iig and the President turned
round to say Good bye" o.sad /, will es-
cort you. ] thought 1t not proper the President
should go entirely unattended will escort you,
said, and besides wish To see the gentlemen
of the Cabinet who are going 10 leave with yni
With that he alighted. He had got in, of course
irst at The White House, and that brought Tim OK
the side next To the pavement At the depot and as
the carriage small coupe. he got OUT first as
matter II cOnvenie ce. He ta0k my arm as we
q cended the steps. and turned: or lett (he was
one think police Officer; the same officer
who od us we had ten or Tvs elve minutes time
remaining. When he turned to speak to him our
arms Became disengaged. according to my i'm
preSs.On and aS we walked through the ladies'
waiting room we were not arm i'm arm but side
by side. He had got tow thirds across the room.
when suddenly, without any premonitiOn what
ever. there wa Il very loud rep ri of pistO dis
charge followed in very brief interval by
second shot. AT the instant /
first heard the report IL occurred TO me il was
some trouble between persons 10 whom we were
IN no way related; some such deed of violence;
and touched the President as though to hurry
him on. as thought there might be some danger
70 his person or my own: Just as did that the
President threw his hands up and said: "My God
what is this!' II seems to have been almost be-
tween the shots he SAID this:s of course In so
exciting and horrible scene lean only give an
impres ion. not all absolute statement Then
recollection. He passed on my night. though am
aware this statement must be taken me ely as my
impression. l Immediately followed alter the
distance of eight feet. remember / stopped just
outside thu door which led from the ladies' wait
ing room to the main room Then shout came
had quitesunk. He was sinking a. left. When
got nearly back To him Il the first or second
person VINO got PACK To himl ne was vomihag
course Immediately large crowd surrounded
him. ana mattresses were brought,
think from sleeping carr and he was
Medical aid was at hand as soon Is possible aud
an examination being made, he vas returned to
about fifty minutes, or possibly an hour. know
returned to my own room a wrote a dispatch
TO the public especially the European public. di-
recuinR it TO Minister Lowell at London. In that
dispatch / said: This 1920 4. m the President
being shot about 9:2O" That enabled me to
White He go @
got to my house, possibly little before. These
are In brief the circumstances con.
s the "sP Upper room o the she Mhsr
there was a gathering around Of the Cabinet
ministers. who Immediately repaired there from
whom it was, but gained from intbrmation that
the man / saw run aud whomI went sf.er and
whom saw fall into the hands a The police was
statement to the Cabinet. attending surgeons and
General Sherman, before the police had discov
cred the name; am, OF course the shot being behird
hand. He did not in running have the pistol ex-
posed.
The District Attorney then produced
diagram of the depot in which the tragedy
occurred, and at his request the witness in
dcated the positions occupied by the Presi-
dent and himself at the time the fatal shot
was fired. He also stated. though the second
shot was fired Immediately after the first it
did not follow it assrapidly as shots could be
fired from a self cooking revolver
Q.-How often have you seen the prisoner to
the pest of your recollection? Avery often. Nu-
merica statements are APP to be exaggerated when
a
ing TO nv recollection he visited the Stat Depart
ment twenty or twenty five ii nes. 1t might |
possibly be not over tel, but eight to ten visits
OF that kind are apt To make an Impression OF |
twenty or twenty-five. lLaughterl
Q.-Was he all applicant for office? Ale was |
a very persistent applicant for the Consul Cen |
the Slightest fs Faxs nas h% he
would receive appointment. remem- |
ber after persistent and repeated visits |
pect whatever Of his receiving the appointment; /
aud that did not want him TO continue his visits
wanted to bring them to an end and | told him
there was DO pros pect of his receiving it.
The witness here identified a number of letters
from Guieau and taken from the files of the State
Department, and said II observe these letters
lion. And this GndIcat'g a parer1 Is a speech
In one of the letters, which he alleged
:, have made during the politi al camraign.
,ffice. Here indcating) is letter that came
from the White House. with an ordinary Execu-
i've Mansion blank. IL i a mere endorsement
mission. That letter came from the White House
In this envelope by Mr. Porter"
Q-Did yon see the b ,dy of Pre-ident Garfield
when it was brought to the Dstrict after he was
lead? Al came with the funeral train and
did no. see the body Of the President after the
aud | did not go to the rotunda of the
Capitol to see 1t. / saw the body after
death at Elberon in the Francklin Cottage belong
New York, who had very kindly rendered the use
of the cottage for the President.
This ended the direct examination.
Cross.examinatiOn by Mr.. Scoyille:
Blaine-As to the identical day. first saw
iuiteau can not say. 1t was early I'm March.
Odd you meet him during the campaign
ast year? Alt is possible 1 did. He eorre-
ponded with the Maine COMMITTEES. attem ,ting
o get into the campaign as a speaker. | know
here were several persistent letters from Charles
iuiteau. of whom then heard for the first time. |
lesiring to speak In Maine
@ Can they not be produced? Al do not
hink they can. The debris of the campaign Is
ire. II is wholly unimportant. Very often per i
,ns try TO get into the campaign as speakers.
ion every Committee i'm the country is familiar
With. the general rule being never TO tske speak
,r who appl!, himself TO speak Laughter
Q.-What is the reason OF that rule? Abe
.ause man of enough reputation to be of iBfiu-
,nce Is OF consequence enough to be sought Tor
md not seek.
his matter sufficiently that that name
hould be familiar to you when you came
nto the state Department? A-No,sir; 1t made
10 impression on me at all. The thing had
passed out of my miud until my Private secreta-
y raid this man had persstently applied to speak
a the campaign. | should never have recalled
he fact in the world. He introduced himself to
ne in the.State Department
Q.-Did ne come at any time with any backing
or office either G written or p rsonail Al dent
act of General Logan being his friend, and am
Tot sure ne did nv. have some letters. That Is a
act could not now ate.
Q-Has it been a usual thing in applications
or Office that applicants come without any back
ng? Avery common. He could often be one
II forty in single morning, all aliSe in desiring,
md pretty nearly all alike In Disappointment.
Lauehlerl The case was not peculiar one.
Q.-How did you treat him? A.--Possibly II
had never seen but one Office seeker might have
hought hs was persistent. Having seen SO many
If the same kind did not notice him. Laugh
er
O,-When did you finally reject his application?
Ale mad come there repeatedly without en-
and the office was more or less filled