New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1881-06-01
REBUTTING The MA TORS EVIDENCE
WITNESSES FOR TIE COMMISSIONERS
TRIAL OF THE POLICE COMMISSIONERS RESUMED
ITALIANS CALLED TO TrsrITY-CAPTAlN WILL
IAMs's STATEMENT

TRIAL OF THE POLICE COMMISSIONERS RESUMED
ITALIANS CALLED TO TEsTIFY-CAPTAIN WILL
IAMs's STATEMENT.
The defence of the Police Commissioners was con-
tinucd Yesterday before the Mayor Only lew spec
tofors were present Mr. Bartlett OF counsel Tor the
Commissioners, called several Italians rs witnesses
who had been employed on the Sco"s oi the Suie'
Cleaning Department, and Joseph Gallo. who had
heen connected with the department. acted aAlnlcr-
prefer. Joseph Amcnda testified that III the Gay
t,mc the labOrcTs began 10 unload the sc"Ns "hSn
they saw n red buoy IN the water ana IN th' Hlght
when they were awakened 10y the whistles oi the
ting that drew the scow. He denied that any rriuhe
was thrown from the scowS before reaching u1N
errors Island or the NarrOvs. HE tUp 10 lhe
dumpinc-p place and back consumed ten or eleven
hours usually. Sometimes the water was rough
aud il was twentyiour hours before llc SIo"S ~,
turned 10 the pier at the foot of Canalst. lie cOuu
not tell at what point the garbage was thrown from
the scows at night, because IT was too lark 10 see
Ii was opposite some big hotel but he dld not kno"
whether il was n hotel at COncy Island, Rocka"ay
or Long Branch. H. ,,,
that the statement IN regard Ia refuse having bccn
thrown from the scOws into the rNcr was untrue.
Alexander Ciarachini another Italian laborcr icsti-
fled that he knew Francisco Gahcilo one oi the
witnesses for the prosecution, who had stated that
he had paid money for the privilege OF working III
the Strcct-C Cleaning Department. n, 80
Did you ever receive money from Gardcllo J
YES. lie gave me s. or 81 for getting him
work in the department. -,
your assistancef
No. sir
Ibid You ever receive any other money from
GarlclloH
" Yes he gave me seventeen or eighteen DAYS pay
after he had received it at the office at No 500
Mubcrry-st.'
II was told To get it from him hccausc he only
worked two days, and ihe 3thrI hilerh days DE-
did not know that GardrllO would return what
money did not belong 10 HIM.
b This explanation caused much laughter among the
4 L.. 1, hV tsff Flssl |
know il il very funny, but nevertheless II Is true
In answer to further questions the witness stated
that a substitute WAS put in Garlclios place. ana
that the pay for the two men Was chicrtd on the
hooks i'm tiarlellos name. He testified that Go-
vanni Lcgarri another Italian laborrr, had paid
him about ~ for getting employment for hru on
The scows When asked how he was able to secure
work for the men, he said that II was through an
American named Harrison, who lived ~ Thirty
| fOurtll-st somewhere between sixth aud Eighth
| ayes. The Commissioners then searched through
| the directory for the name mentioned by the
| witness but could not find IT,,
David Zero Il foreman on the scOws OF tlic depart
ment testified in relation To discharglng the scows
| He said that refuse was never thrown from The
scows until three buoys had been passed. The
water at the dischaTgng place was sometimes very
rough, and the men would not work. lie assisted
| in Keeping the time Of the men, and said that he
never received any money from the lahOrcrs
y. Finhldi the next witness, stated that he fnr-
| nishcd Italians to the street, Cleaning Department
whenever they werc wanted. lie had been IN the
employ of the department Tor nluc years, and nearly
| all the time he had procured Italians for the scOws.
lie stated positively that hc had never received any
| money from the men he was paid - a day as fore
| man in the Street, lennmg Department. He kept
| a record of the men who worked on the scows aud
made monthly returns 10 the department. lee was
| not connected with the department now, as he had
| n contract with the Hudson River Railroad Com
| pany to ill in the grounds at SiXty-httlst. The
| department paid him cents n load for unloading
| the scOws nj SiXty-iilth-st.
| William II. McCorllc. formerly an accountant in
| the department. read from book the dates of the
appointment and discharge of Patrick O'AcIl. From
| fhaf lac
| the department February -, 1851, when as lac al
| legged. some Of the men received brlhes.
| George GeOghan was called 20 contradict the
! testimony of j. j. Moran, who testified that
| Lcoglan bad credited an Italian with four days on
which he did not work. The witness said that
| RamattlO, one of the laborcrs was locked up four
| DAYS. and that Moran aitcrwar made complaint
TO Captain Williams that tanattio had received pay
| for that time. As Gcoghan foreman Of the
| gang he was asked for an explanations and the pay
| rolls showed that Moran was mistaken. When
| asked if he knew anything abont Morans reputa,
| not believe him under oath. and am very sorry 10
see that he is of the associates OF the Mayor
| Mr. Root called Captain Williams TO the stand,
but stated that he would only examine him ON one
specification of the charges, and would recall him.
| Captain Williams stated that all the men who tosti-
fed that they had paid money To have their ashes
| removed were invited TO inspect the men. horses
aud carts of the department, but they failed to iden
tify any of them rs the persons to whom they had
| paid mOpcy. He also stated that there were many
private carts licensed 10 ashes from places
| where engines were used. Those carts were similar
| 10 the ones used by the department., aud some OF
| the drivers had been detected removing dirt from
| places not mentioned in their permits. la such
| cases the permits were revoked. lie had investl
gated the charge that one Of his men received pay
| for removing ashes from the Metropolitan Hotel
Tho man admitted that the charge was true, and hC
| was dismissed.
| Assistant Corporation Counsel Andrews reserved
| the right 20 cross-eXaminc Captain Williams afte
| all his testimony was taken. The examination wa
then adjourned until Friday
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