Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1881-11-28


law and constitution"
WITNESS FROM THE ONEIDA COMMUNITY
Charles s. Jocelyn, who resides in Lennox, New
York, was called and sworn He testified that he
| was one of the business managers of the Oneida
Community; had known the prisoner there; exces-
sve egotism was the prisoners peculiar character
istfc: the prisoner was about as egotiStica man
| as he ever knew; he thought he was superior
being. Witness thought that in his convi ctiOnS
about himself the prisoner was in earnest; he had
tfon and perhaps fanatiCiSm. Witness remembered
MS attam9ts to lecture: the lectures were, as he
remembered them, most remarkable for lack OF
continuity and logical connection.
The witness was not cross-eXamined. but the
district attorney notified him that the government
| might desire to call him to the stand later
GUifcsl.'s Brother sas a Witness.
Mr.. John W. Guteau, of Boston, the brother of
the prisoner, was then called to the stand. He
left his seat by the prisoner In order to testify He
said he lived in Boston. He gave his testimony in
| very distinct voice, his general manner rescm-
bling that of Mrs. Scoville very much. He gave
particulars of the prisoners early life, similar
g un to ,s he BY sya his his st 5 the
oner in Chicago :; the prisoner was then
twenty-seven years old; he had left the oneida
Community, and witness thought was then study
ing law. He referred to the prisoners financial
aftatrs; the prisoner said he had offered Mr.. SEQ
vile his note as discharge of his Indebtedness,
and said Mr.. Scoyiile was obstinate about taking
It, as he could get the note discounted II any bank
III Chi agO; witness met prisoner in New York in
1871; had heard of him through letters from their
father: there no fellowship between them. and
he {witness) saw him very little.
THE PRISONER AND HIS BROTHER EXCHANGE CoMPLI-
MENTS.
Witness recollected that he did not nav the pris-
oner's board.
81 paid that myself" broke in the prisoner.
"Why do you state" asked the district attorney,
"that you did not pay his board?'
"Well, was under the impression that he never
tor him."
That was false impression" said the pris-
Gner " paid my board as well AS you did yours,
think, II the record could be dug up.'
The witness saw him in Boston in 1879. He had
seen him in the court and at Jail since coming to
Washington. He had opportunities Of mott ing
MN. When witness first went to jail the prisoner
shook hands with MIN and kissed his sister, who
was present The prisoner, who was part OF the
time very excited, insisted upon having the man.
agement OF the case. He said he would not allow
witnesses to be examined on some topics
"GUITEAU, THE PATRIOT"
The prisoner then talked to Mr.. Scovlle. who
was also present; the witness had had difficulty
with the prisoner, and knowing that he had shot
the President, managed to keep him in front of
him; when witness talked to the prisoner, the
latter said, among other things, the name of Gui-
te2u would become honored; that he would be
called "Guiteau, the patriot" instead OF Guteau,
t.le assassin; he said he had acted under nspira-
to and was willing to die for the principle OF in
Spiraton; witness remarked TO him that he be-
1Hved he was honest; the prisoner replied that he
was: he said he was willing to be sacrificed for
this principle; he said if the jury failed to agree
with his view, he was willing to abide by their de-
cisIon; he said he did net care snap for his life;
witness then asked him suddenly: (which do
you prefer, to be hanged by the verdict OF jury
or shot by a mob?" He said immeGi ltey: 81
alarmed, evidently, and he crlwled behind the
ST nd In the room; witness believed the prisoner
Insane.
THE GUITEAU FAMILY BIBLE.
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OF Francis Guiteau, was here handed to witness,
and identified by him as a book which he saw first
in the hands of his aunt Emily, the wife OF Abra-
ham Guiteau.
MIR. scovlle then read the record. Mr. scovile
called especial attention to the record OF the birth
and death OF Francis Guiteau jr., who died in New
York in 1899, aged twenty-nine. He said he would
prod uce a certificate showing that he died i'm the
Bloc nlingdale asylum. Mr.. Scoville asked DIR.
N 1, hols, OF the BlOomingjale asylum, who was
pres ent, if he had the asylum record with him.
Dr. Nichols said he had the record In the city, but
not With him, and would briIg it to the court.
cRoss-ExAAINATIoN OF JOHN W.. GUITEAu.
The witness on the stand, Mr. John w. GuIteau.
was then turned over to the prosecution for cross
examination.
He said he had made up his mind that the pris-
oners mind was unsettled in October upon looking
over his Old letters. He had never stated TO any
one that he had no doubt of the prisoners sanity
or responsibility what he had said was publisher;
he had never stated to Mr. John II. Barron that the
said the prisoners act was one OF ''pure cursed
ness" He believed then that his brothers case
was case of demonism, that he was possessed OF
the devil, and he so stated to Mr. Barron; witness
knew Dr. CharliSS Golfers, of Boston; had attended
a meeting over which the Doctor presided after
81 used to attend these meetings myself" said
the prisoner, "when was in Boston. A very nice
man"
The witness thought he said then that the pris-
Oner was insane, but responsible; he always said
that he believed before God that he was RESPONSE
could not judge. He held this view until he re-
ceived the letters written by his brother to his
father.
GUITEAU SPEAKS UP AGAIN AS TO HIS RELATIONS
WITH HIS BROTHER.
"It should be stated here" said the prisoner, in
terrupting his brother, "that there has been no
fellowship bet ween my brother and me for some
years. offended him by something 1 said in the
last interview l had with him in Boston. My
brother he doesn't come here with the ordinary
feeling that brother does come"
The witness remembered a conversation with
Mr.. Robbins, of Worcester, in which he said like
wise that he thought his brother insane, but
The prisoner here spoke up again. 'My father"
he said, "ran into this Oneida business and my
brother sympathized with him."
impatiently.
Yoa ueth h you Judge said the
want the public TO understand this MIR. Scovflle
and his family, think, sympathzed with me- MY
brother here SympathZed with my father. That
accounts for any disability on the part OF my bro
ther."
The witness said in reply to Mr.. Dayidges aues-
ton that he had taken out several policies on his
life at various times; in response to the usual in
uuiry as to whether there was insanity in his fam
tiy he had replied, "NO." The last time he took
out policy was in September or October last since
the President was Shot. The witness having been
questioned as to the note given by the prisoner to
Mr. ScOville the, prisoner looked up and said:
81 owed Mr.. Scovllle $780, and paid it while was
practising law in New York. That's all there is to
that"
THE BROTHERS HAVE BOTH CHANGED THEIR MINDS
The witness was asked IL at that time he consid-
cred the prisoner of unsOund mind He said that
he did not think him crazy, but thought he did not
have much sense.
sHe alway thought was badly cranked," spoke
up the prisoner.
eyes that was truen said the witness.
Mr. Dayidge having asked the witness II he had
treated his brother In the interview in Chicago in
a brotherly manner, as he should treat a brother
who was or unSOund mind, the witness said: 'No,
sir; did not, and have always reproached my
self for tt'
the prisoner, s'on account OF my fathers going to
the Oneida Community. never liked him, and he
never liked me. never liked him SO much before
I'm nv life as during the last two weeks"
81 can say the SINE thing OF him." remarked
the witnesS ssI never thought so much OF him he-