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Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

Docs it pay to steal?" asks the Phila- delphia Times. It does, esteemed con- temporary. it does. It doesn't always pay the thief, but just think of the large number Of criminal lawyers to whom 1t furnishes fat living.
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

sion. aversIon tO society. dlmu.-- ' noises in The head. the vital tuti las served in tse urine, and many other ii- lead Co insanity and death. -
 DIR WiN1iE vsIll ugree t0 fDrfr.t ? z, ,-... drcd Dollars for case of thl- Alt' Restorative under his special adv.c. rlentl will not cure or for anything 'H ilriOus found in it. Dr. MIntle tr''t- .-.. diseases successfully without mercury tatiOn FREE. Ih0rOuCn ezaHi-1ar.' .'- vice. including analysis oi u,a'- - VItai Rs-toratise. s bottle. cor i'.. subsequently,. Sl0. S,nt to any -'il7 cei-,t of price. or C. O.D. secure from '. .r,- and in prIvate name if desir-i l' -A- CRllfornia-
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25
TELEGRAPH
COAST NEWS.
cnnnn,l of chn.on Friend..

SAN FRANCIsCo, December 2.-At the session of the Grand Council of Chosen Friends, yesterday afternoon, the follow ing officers were elected to fill vacancies in the Grand offices: Grand Vice Com mander, c. W. C. Rowell; Grand Treas urer. H. Tromberg; Grand Marshal, c. l.. Stone; Grand Warden, V. l.. Earn shields: Grand Guard, R. ROthenstein; Grand Trustees, John Staude and J. F. Harris. At the conclusion of the cleo tion the Grand Council adjourned sub feet to the call of the Grand Council.
 More About the Confederate Money.
 SAN FRAScIsco, December 23.-The Examiner this morning publishes an in- terview with J. c. Maynard, prominent Democratic politician and ex-Insurance Commissioner of the State. During the last year of the war Maynard was Gen eral Depot Quartermaster at Richmond. When the confederates evacuated Rich mond he received orders to furnish transportation to Danville, and among other property was about S2O0,OJO, mostly in silver, belonging to the State f Virginia, which was put on the cars at Danyille and sent to Washington, Georgia, where, by order of the Secretary of War, Breckenridge, it was distributed among the soldiers. Jeff Davis had noth- ing to do with it There was no specie belonging to the confederacy sent out of Richmond in wagons. Maynard be- lieved the reports of sums of money be- longing to the Confederacy at the close of the war greatly exaggerated. Each department had some money to its credit in Europe, to be used for the pur- chase of supplies, but it is difficult to say what became of it
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25
i P0R0ITMF awaits any ma" who secures eoaaoo. H Illl uuII OZONE in anN toAvnshln OF -------

mcnths S2fora Woods B,t Ohio onadeSb chased ovcnier g 1fOr J~ J~ pack ynoniM OzoneS fOrat . packa va .F.W CIa lHe Eatouc cuutyM h lest stpacSac was h h Iayor Sj e tntf. Iic1go s
  dO1sueg egssa day au u hi h n The FcdC making oursIl n vny-pu OZONE Tbaaar nSfauc vIichH etlveaS aSSel the puv f Wrie oa uyof he abDye Ta p Now to proved ablu O - - raanisth means Ofping fol yousou tha oft tsandV is wevIl lray tryeIn ren- Ina tive have made
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

Ar meeting of the Medico-Legal So- cicty of New York last week the subject of how far physicians ought to be held responsible for death caused by an8s- thetics was considered, but without ar irving at a satisfactory result. Che phy- sician said: 'Hundreds have been known to die under the influence of chloroform, and the tendency to determine the re- sponsibility Is becoming stronger every year." The use of nitrous oxide gas has also been attended with fatal results. Tn England chloroform continues to be the most popular anesthetic among phvsi- cians. but in this country ether is grow ing in favor on account of the less risk attending it. Another curious question grew ont of the medico-legal aspects of a death caused immediately by an an3s- thetic. Suppose President Garfield, said one Of the speakers, had been placed un- der the influence of chlOroform and had died. how far would this have modified the guilt of his assassin? It Is an inter- esting point, and not wholly without practical importance, since surgeons in extracting bullets, and otherwise treat ing wounds maliciously inflicted, are ac- customed to use chloroform or ether; and if a patient should die from the in- huence of the anRsthetic a jury might have some difficulty in dividing the re- spcnsibIity between the surgeon and the original assailant.
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25
"dARCHIyG THROUGH GEORGIA,
General SAermaHs Opinion of the Familiar
 Tune

General Sherman wept the other day, after hearing Marching Through GeOrgia" played at a banquet. His neighbor. General Grant, asked him: "Wherefcre dost thou weep:' The Gen eral answered.: "l never was so all fired sorry I marched through Georgia as l have been in the last five years. Georgia be darned. The people are good enough, but I'm listening tO that tune for the 3,4Gj, ,SJ7th time. How would you like, Ulysses" he continued, "tO hear that ill., fernal melody over three million times? They have sOcked it to me from Maine to Texas, and from Florida to Toronto" and here he wept afresh. But General Grant quietly petted the little hero on the shoulder, and said: "Sherry, 1t IS only one Of the penalties Of greatness. I suffer worse than you do-Ive had seven million cigars gwen to me be- cause people think I like to smoke, S24 buu pups and more horses than ! can count. sherry continued the General, "whenever I see a horse, cigar, bull pup. I feel just as badly as yOu do, but I never give way t0 my feelings IT sell 'em.' "Gcs,' answered Sherman between his sObs, ''you can sell cigars, bull pups and horses, but l can't sell that d-d tune for five cents. '-I Un- known liar of the New Orleans Times.
 We gain more esteem by what We hear than by what we say. Perhaps the high est art in conversation is to make others talk. The man who hears you may be heard; the man who talks to you never is He may be dissatisfied with your views; he is sure to be satisfied with his own.
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25
Telegraph Line Begun.

Especial tO the CITIZEN.l
 CAsA GRASDE, December 24.-Work has begun on the Silver King and Casa Grande telegraph line, and the first tele- graph pole was planted here last even ing 4 large number of people were present and the ceremonies were i'm posing, notwithstanding their impromptu character.
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

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Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25
AFTER BEING TREATED BY I'll
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Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

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Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

 NEW YORK, December 22.-Lulu Os- good, youngest daughter of W. H. Van de-'bilt, was married yesterday afternoon Tn St. Bartholomew's church to Dr. Wm Seward Webb, son Of Gen. James Wat sou Webb.
Arizona weekly citizen., 1881-12-25

 NEW YORK, December 22.-On Jan uaIy lst Hawaii will come into the Pos tai Union.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

systems leading from Chicsgo and St Louis
TO New Orleans, on the one hand, and the
gateway to Mexico on the other, and to
operate these routes with view to the
establishment Of the geographical iunoys-
uon-namely, that the natural route from
the northwest to Europe is from Chicago
and St Louis via New Orleans. No one
questions his ability 10 control the principal
rail routes, and also the barge line, from
Chic"go and ST. Louis to New Orleans and
the frontier of Mexico; but having secured
such control, would the accomplishment Of
the end in view work benefit or injury to
Chicago commercially! Results will supply
the true answer to the proposition. The
rumor is that Gould has for weeks been uui.
city negotiating for the interest which is to
insure him the control which he has set
about securing. These negotiations are with
the foreign shareholders and bondholders of
the Illinois Central and Chicago, st. Louis
and New Orleans roads. Whether be succeeds
in his purpose, If such be his purpose, will
shortly be known; but 10 the meantime 1t
may be safely assumed that, If the negotia-
tons have progressed to the point indicated
by the rumors, his object ia practically
accomplished at this time. These roads are
now both owned by one association of share,
holders, and are operated under mutusl
traffic agreement The two roads, with all
proprietary lines, repre;ent total mileage Of
about 800 miles,"
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

ATA banquet given to General Gran, in
Mexico n few days ago, he said in reply to a
soss'' There Is nothing in my opinion, to
stand in the way of Mexican progress and
grandeur and wealth but the people thcm,
selves. do not anticipate their opposition,
but fully expect their active support l
think that can answer for nineten,hs Of the
peoPls ofmy own country when I say that
wa have no sinister motives whatever; we
have M designs or desires that are inimicsl
to the honor and credi. of this great republic.
am aware that some the papers of Mex.
leu, a, we'll as possibly some 10 the United
States, have made illusions to the possibility
of the annexation Of Mexican territory to the
Unitci Ststes. On that subject know that
there arc no grounds whatever for appre,
hansi, "a
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

The b. Louis Post Dispatch has writer
on It's staff whose forte is get ing up fictitious
reports, "faking" as some reporters call IT.
His most notable exploit in this line was a
graphic description Of the resuscitation Of q
murderer, hung 10 St. Louis, by means OF
electricity. His latest effort Is an account Of
sspiritual sesnce In 81. Louis fsw days
ago, at which the spirit Of the Earl Of Bescons'
field not only communicated with those
present, but was materializsd. It Is rather
tame reading and so transparent IS to reach
the attenuation of thinness He does moi
coms up to his usual standard, but then all
gsnluses are A4bby at times.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
chicago and Now Orleans,

il, Goulds at Il again. The Chicago
Tim. sye Financial and speculative cir.
clos will experience thrill from tho rumor
made public for the nrst time thi, morning,
thu, Jay Gould Ia working to secure contro
Of Ca Chicago and New Orleans ron.e
vi TN Ia composed Of the Illinois Central ant
tn Ca'csgo, 1t. LJois Il New Orleans rail
ru,ds Il has been obvious for months thai
e m was preparing 10 drop the lstitudins
= 80 md take up an ownership Ia the longi
,uilai limos. Ho said 10 snmc Of his friends
sx week. ago, that there WAS material Ia the
north aud south roads, under an energeti,
manipulation, for tremendous boom,
and his friends were not 90 ob.uss
As not 10 discover the direction Of the wind
by this little straw His purpose, Il Il
rumored, 10 70 control the rail and rivel
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

AN item OF New York news is, that the
officers of tho railroads in which Jay Gould
10 interested all moved to tho second story Of
the Western Uaion telegraph building on
the let inst, and that they will occupy tho
entire floor. As it will doubtless 90 interest
ing TO our readers to know all these roads We
will name them. The list includes the Union
Pacific, the KsnsAs Pacific, the Missouri
Pacific, the Texas & Pacific, the Wabash, st
Louis & Pacific, tho Hannibal & st. Joseph
and the International s. Great Northern
quite an array, indeed, and when we consider
the fact that he is the moving and directing
spirit In each one Of them, we can have al
least faint appreciation Of the activity and
labor Of his brain.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
GlenLea Saloon.

GlenLea That IL pretty name. There
is poetry in it, but the beauty nor the poetry
of the name compares with the excellence
and purity of the GlenLes whiskey to be
found always al Starke & Hogan's GlenLes
saloon, corner Of Main and Murphy streets
Mr.. Hogan, the junior proprietor, an urbAne,
suave, genial, pleasant gentleman, is 10
charge, and with handsome, cosy place,
he has ever cheerful welcome for all and
the best whiskey, the finest wines, the coolest
beer, and the most fragrant cigars in town
at their disposal.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

THE Princeton college boys have to be
watched with much care. They are frail
tender younglipgs, whose morals must need
be gus-dod with great circumspection. A,
least we presume this to be the case, as Dr.
McCsst, the president, has refused to let the
college Glee club give concert in Trenton
New jersey, for the benefit of the Grand
Army Of the Republic. because there are sc
many saloons aud houses Of bad reputo II
the city. That is alittle rough on the divinity
students,
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04


The Houston Post Gays that the HERALD
criticised rather severely lie report Of and
comments upon the late Saeugerfsst at Gal.
weston. Our contemporary 10 mistaken.
The HERALD did not say q word about II
one way or another. Our Galveston cores
pendent, In a special 10 the HERALD, stated
that the Posts article excited uufavorable
comment In Galveston among citizens Of tina,
city and visitors to and psr.icipstors In the
Saengeriest, and no himself expressed some
Interpretation Of the article, bu,
the HERALD bad no opinion TO give utter
ance too. The HERALD makes Il a rule, for
II Is q principal with Il 10 attend exclusively
TO Ia own affairs, claiming the right TO il
own opinions and conceding the same righ,
10 iss contemporaries. All people do no. COZ
the same thing In tho same light, and II the
Post saw anything about the saengerfest ,ha,
In IL judgment WAS worthy Of praise or tina.
deserved adverse. criticism,h would have beon
recreant 10 IL duty asa public journal, 70.
porting The occasion, not 70 have uttered ID
honest convictions, and this being 90, the
HERALD had no occasion 10 take the Post 70
account 10 any wise for such utterance On
questions 10 which vital principles either Ia
politics, morals or tho material interests Of
The country ars involved, whom two pspert
disagree - 70 tho means or - 10 their views
thsy can discuss In dlsniifed and respscta
bic way their differences Of opinion, thai
good MAJ grow out OF such discussion. bu
msrs cAspines and blcksriugs are upproata
hto say VIE least OF Il.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

IT Is said that II the Star route investiga.
tons are pushed that General Brady, the late
second assistant postmaster general, has in
reserve a. part Of his defense, docu nents
which, If made public, will wreck many
valuable regulations. LIST the investigation
60 on, and let General Brady spring his
reserve documents, for no reputation tina,
ought not to be wrecked can be except by
the truth. In other words, no reputation !.
valuable tina. can be wrecked on homes,
eyldence,
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

Mrs, JESSIE FREMONT, daughter Of
rh,mss II. Benton and wife of "the path.
6pd,r," who failed TO find tho path to the
white house, however, is now spending her
TIM Ia Washington, and Is one of tho most
charming ladies at the capital. She IL &C.
complI'hed and no, only beautiful in her
maturity, but she is one Of the most rema,k k.
able women this country ever produced.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
For the year ending March Slst, last, our
exports exceeded our imports BY S243.445,'
800, very good showing.

PROFESSOR TIcE said it would be cloudy.
rainy weather from the Let to the Bird, and he
hit Il exactly. He says that from the 4th TO
the 9th It will be clear. To-day he says
will be one Of the comparatively cooler days
Of the month.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

WHAT IL the use of continually Offering
and passing resolutions reafirming the
Monroe doctrine q applied to the Pansms
canal, and doing nothing else! 1.-THE United
States government 10 going to adhere "a
that doctrine why don't II do something "a
stop Count de Lssseps in his canal scheme
unless he carries II on under the auspices Of
our government and under its control and
management?
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

A DISPATCH to the Chicago Inter Ocean
says that Miss Mary Lee and Mr.. John
Gedney we're married at Evanston, Illinois
on the 9th ultimo by Rev. A. W. Patten
with EXQUISITE floral decorations. What did
Mr.. Patten, q minister of the gospel, mean
by decorating himself with aowers' Was be
trying 10 make Little Butsercup" Of
hiccaalc9
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

THE scarcity Of water in some Of the great
cities Is getting to be matter Of serious in
convenience. In New York, Chicago end
81. Louis, loud complaints are being made,
and the quality Of water that is being used in
the former two cities is occasioning much
sickness, and new sources of supply have 10
ba found
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

Mr.. W. NJ. CRow, q graduate Of the class
Of 1874 Of Emory college, has just founded
and hsd chartered Hubbard college" at
Over.on, Rusk county. this state. Ills
assistants are all graduates Of the best
southern colleges.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
A l.ady's Wish.

''Oh, how do wish my skin was az clear
81 d soft as yonrs,s said lady. you can
e.. silly make IL sO,n answered the friend
Howl inquired the first lady. BY using
hop Bitters, that makes pure, rich blood an d
blooming health II did it for me, as you OBJ
serve"
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
TE ssis tSS.

DHY5lClAN AMI SUhGEUN-DK. NOR.
/ TON. Office, In first national bank build
Ing. Residence, San JaciDtO street, near
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
SPECIAL NOTICES.

nEATrTENTION CARPENTERS. car.
penters are requested to att nd meeting to be
held at the City Hall Friday night, May 9Th,
for the pur pose Of devising ways and means fol-
their mutual benefit and increasing wages.
All contractors are respectfully invited to
attend
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04
= dissolution Notice.

Noticeis hereby given that the firm of NJ
Rosenthai 4 Co. composed Of the undersigned
persons, has thl, day been dissolved by mu-
tual consent. NJ Rosenthal alone Is authorized
to collect all debts due SAID firm, and he will
pay all claims against the same
NJ. ROsENTHAL,
l.. RUBENSTElN.
The Dallas daily herald. [volume] (Dallas, Tex.) 1873-1887, 1881-05-04

Referring to the above, beg to inform the
public that will continue the business at the
old stand, 7l3 Mntn street, and under the old
firm name OF M Roset thai q Go. Tn mixing
my friends and the public generally for the
the firm, solicit "a continuance Of tbs same
Nj. ROSENThAL.
Dallas, April 80, ISL
The Cheyenne daily leader. [volume] (Cheyenne, Wyo.) 1870-1884, 1881-06-28

An adjourned session OF the supreme
court was held yesterday.
Present, Chief Justice Sener and As
sociate Justices Blair and Peck.
N. J. O'Brien, administrator of the
estate of P. J. Mcnamara, deceased
VS.. Emily e. o'Brien. Decision of the
court below reversed. Opinion by Chief
Justice Sener, Justice Peck dissenting.
Charles Hecht, plaintiff in error, VS..
Mary E. Boughton, defendant in error
Judgment of the court below affirmed
Opinion by Justice Peck.
The case of the Board Of Count,
Commissioners of Albany county
plaintiff in error, VS.. N. X. Boswell,
defendant in error. The record of th,
Case not having been perfected, the cas-
vas continued until the next term Of
the supreme court.
The court then took a recess unit
four O'Clock, when the journal was read
and approved, and the court adjourned
for the term. q
The Cheyenne daily leader. [volume] (Cheyenne, Wyo.) 1870-1884, 1881-06-28

- --H
Gen. MeCook, colonel commanding
the 9Th infantry at White river. was an
east bound passenger Of sunday. He
was en- route from White river TO
Washington.
The fun ofieisl report of the recent
killing of lieut.. Cherry, BY one Of bis
own detachment, has been received At
the war department. Mai. j. J. Up.
ham, Of Lieut., cherry,s. regiment,
makes the report, which is accompanied
by the afidayits of the man who was
also shot. by others of the party, and
people acquainted with Locke, the
murderer, including a hospital steward.
From all the evidence given it is evi.
dent that Locke suddenly went insane.
He had often acted queerly.
The Cheyenne daily leader. [volume] (Cheyenne, Wyo.) 1870-1884, 1881-06-28
DRIVING PARK.

Entr;a,.for +ha ra~o..zT,na oo.A Ill.
Entries ior tne races June 5oth, July
Ahu anu
-. rI1osr ee1a mass
NJ G. Wi,hur enters or ..nu;da,
+ p scS nee n' enser VI =. . ts ! !,
p a. Tniiv ant rptl' % !,
A. A. swan enters h M ..Kittia -
Do No . u.
nsHEArs. PURSE s4OO. pI
G. A. Emery enters b. 9. s.Tom Nc
Kinney" iasa.U -.ye
ocr,onsf ZONES enters o., $. Jim
Isaac Glover enters or : ..Trinidad
Ca, 49, ~ ~.
VII 49,. .p.ux,
a. Daker enters .. ''itequest.p :.
u. w. rooi enters D.. m Fusilaae''
RACE NO. 3 TRoTrNG- 2.36 CLASS.
PURSE $500.
A. Emery euters b o ..Iitt,e
Manner
M. G. Wilbur enters ch. g. .CIifton
b." -
q. 2wan enters =. ~. AiIsle.n
I. 1. Scnneioer enters D. g. fElcno"
49, nopoihs eh'ers gr' g. nap
iiaA"iu- wa1t g- Istftaf,f
RACE NO. 4. PACING OPEN TO ALL.
PURSE 5000. :
w. G. NEWLY enfers n m .sKansas
Baby.n rs sgSN, 80 80
Terry 7 Bacon epters oh o uFr;t7,,
formeriv s.Three Corne I, ia1-' -.
]. W.Pace enters h O. .Duster p,lg.
s. s. Austen enters HI o ..Rlack
Weasel 81 - -
G. 5. Holmes enters b.. q. "Sucker
The Cheyenne daily leader. [volume] (Cheyenne, Wyo.) 1870-1884, 1881-06-28
oAsoHE sUaTY.

- - u D ~ -
The development Of Crook COUNT,
though rapid, is Istsrded somewhat By
the two rail reads that 7 pushing
westward through Dakota Not that
people are actually deferred from set
ting in Crook county On this account,
but that many others would go In after
theroad reached Deadwood.
These roads are the Chicago & North
western. and the Chicago, Aiiwaukee&
st. Paul They are now at Fort Pierre,
on the Missouri river, where they will
remain until next year.
Still. Crook.eounty is being rapidly
settled, mainly by stock growers and
farmers. Then the oil springs and coal
banks and gold veins are showing up
immensely well, and will add vastly to
the wealth and population. The popu-
~lation, by the way, cannot be less than
~500people, as the assessors have ascer-
tanned, and many are coming in eon-
tinually.
All along the valleys farmers are rails
ing the best of of wheat. while a -four
ing mill is being built at a point five
miles this side of the Dakota line.
1t is not improbable that by next
spring the inhabitants of Crook will
orgar'zsaifHnr'v rqgmnmert, rs the
happy example vi the organization of
Johnson county, is having its effect.
The Cheyenne daily leader. [volume] (Cheyenne, Wyo.) 1870-1884, 1881-06-28

stthat point On Saturday evening Last
Ihs roof on the mound house, which
hsai IN on hse engines, Is no" removed
2 the engines are being repaired.
Inc doors Of the round house were
open al a ume Ia storm came. henee
the damage
The committee from the various Sun
day schools, appointed to arrange for q
joint Sunday school picnic, met at the
residence of Mrs DIR. Graham last
evening, and agreed to have q picnic
excursion to Fort Collins on or about