New-York tribune., 1881-12-02
yEwyoRK DAILY TRIBUNE FRIDAY DECEMBER 1851

That Was tbe Way Ths washington Republican and Cor
ham and that class Of people & ain talk os wicked man
Ayes because he using President GarneILa, VINO
good E man o6 ana bmse Sa b BODY R and son to
That was what General Grant himself said IN ms letter
denouncing Garfield for selling himself out to Blaine
o-Did You say YESTERDAY that you did not desire the
removal Of Secretary Blainel Al did not, and l you
ing il in the record want TO fasten something on to
you | am rs good n man as you are.
Mr.. POrter-I know you think so. go -, .,.,
The prisoner and the the public % will t5pk 1
O-Dd you not speak OF him in your letter 70 the
President as "A wicked and say that the President
onsht TO demand his immediate resignationl A-That
is what mean and what SAID and, what all the Sta
wart aud Liberal papers OF the Nation were demanding
because they saw that Blaine was the man VINO was
moi removing him A.Ihe President has the rght 10
| demand the resignation Of any officer from police
Q.-was your motive for demanding Mr. Blalne's
resignation because ne had sald 70 you on t sa1ry ny
Paris Consulship 4. texcedyJ-I told you that it had
nothing to do with the Paris Consulate. want TO ram
| that into you and put IL down deep lLaughtsrI am
talking now about National politics and not about
miserable Office and If you would try to get your brains
to take that in II would be better. am not dlsap
| pointed oiice-seeker.
| White House people" Whom did you mean by the White
House people Al meant all the inmates OF the White
Q~includiug Mrs. Garfeldl A.-Of course-the en-
| tire White House family.
THE PRESIDENTS DEATH A NECESSITY.
| Q-You stated in that letter that the Presidents
tragica death sad necessity A.-Certainly, a
| political necessity.
Odd the Deity tell you that A.-That did not re-
qure any telling.
Q-Ycu say will unite the Republican party
WHO told you that Alt did not require any telling
with eKctemenp. and that is exactly what It did do,
| too That that the inspiration correct.
| Q.-Who told you It would save the Republic Any
own Judgment told me and proved TO be correct.
Q.-You say that Mason fired ut you while under the
protection OF the law Did you esteem that to be u
| crimet A.-Of course, that was crime.
letter to Mrs Garfield and the White House people, that
Life Is aeeting dream and 1t matters little when one
goes"i A.-rhose are my sentiments
Q.-Does 1t matter much to you when you goi A.
(cooyI got fear OF death. You are liable to die
The only question is whether You ready TO die.
6a@ 81 @ yOT aSGsat GGd Needed 09F m n
cline 10 discuss that matter with you any further
Odd you say in your letter to the White House peO-
pie: {" presume the President a Christian and he
will be happier In Paradise than here Al dd ana
| the President Il great deal happier at this
very moment than any hran on earth.
Q.-Yom have no doubt that wnen yoq killed him he
went direct to Paradise Al believed him TO be a
@. isolemniyJ-And you believe that the supreme
Being holds the gates Of life and death, wanted to
send nm TO Paradise for breaking tue unity OF the Re
publican parry and for ngratitudc General Grant and
senator ConKlngt A-Hts Christianity had nothing 10
do with his political character His political record was
very poor but his Christian character was good because
he was good man go iir h7 know, although thty ud
tell very hard stories about him In connection with tn
Credit MObilier and such things
prisoner said In relation to the time OF the murder;
against me But there is great denl better fecliug
toward than there was some three or our weeks
ago uf these better crank papers nave been ton
| ing down wonderfully for the last three or four
| weeks What they want IL chhlso OF hearL
! about tue Presidents removal. Nothing but
cianr of heart will satisfy their dnboical thirst for
blood II Is not likely that The Deity will crafty them
In their thirst blood They begin 10 II, too, and
| they will see il more and more
! In reply To a question why it required a special in
spirltion shoot President Garfield he said: II re,
| qurcd special direction, from the DEITY to me;
! suppose there were "a Thousand men IA the Republican
parry who would have shot General Garfield II they had
had the chance and the nerve, and the Drnr ana inc
! opportunity To do the work.
ACTING As TIE AGENT or THE DEITY.
Odd il occur TO you that there Commandment
"Thou shalt not ku"l A-Thc Divine Authority over
came the written law.
o-w.s there any higher Divine law than that spoken
! on SInnii A.-Indeed there was. ,,
| Q-whcu you pointed that pistol at General Garneld
not you but God that pulled tue trlESeri ALna.
was simply executing the Divine VIII He used me as
matter would have done It II knew was 10 be- shot
dead the next moment the pressure was so enormous
| O-Did YOU walk back and forth IN the depot watch,
| Ing for mint A.-Ycs / wU working myself up Tor
WorIins Yourself upi Was It necessary do that
| o, St.V GoJi III was all could possibly do TO do
ANYWAY aud had TO work M self up to do It,
had To obey the God Almighty II died the next second
ey,uts yhcIt immediately succeeded the shooting and
was asked whether he sas afraid OF personal violence
want protection until the people cooled OF In conclu
declared that tho Deity had protected MN from
'a,' o"iIow "i do You know thltl Al knew 1t the
| Deity more than knew was awe.
I Oyit depends on whether the jury believe yOul A
That Il exactly what the jury Is here TO pass upon
| on my personal account Aud tell you further that
expect that there "il 'o On hrt OF HI 10 ppt ,lc'
II T. necessary from any KIND of violence either hanging
ODD the D,ty tell you thati A-rhat is my im
P0"Iiayr YOU never had mistaken Impressions A
Nrr I'M this Kind or work Ialways tested the Deity by
mr., usNrr ngf
| posiuycly that Is the Deity, and then do the act.
Nr Porter r,a an extract from one OF Gutcaus let
, ~ r br alluded 10 hs leaving the Oucida Com
munity, dcyiii-h dclnslon, put the prisoner re-
That's just the way yon jump from one ns to another
Mr. Porter then asked n the prisoner had written let
ter stating that he would have killed the PRESIDENT on
June Is, II hhi MOI been thal hia ,'T,au was ti %d
that THAI correct and thought spoke well for his
| in the presence Of Mrs. Garfield
| Q'-&hat objections wolld she have A-pecded
have Killed her That ms reason for not doing H.
0"Nnd did not intend to Kill Mrs. Garfield A
Decidedly not. felt very sorry for her, remarkaby
,bat IL 4 necessary To save the Republic from another
war and It has saved the country from another war
| IN THE PRESENCE OF DEATH DlssENsloNs CEASED
| Q.-Therc would have been n war now but for you Z
Al do not pretend that the was Immediate, but
do say emphatcay land the prisoner began de-
claim IN "A dramatic manner and In the style OF stump
speakcr that bitterness in the Republican party
deepening hour by hour and tha by two or three years
nj lrast the Nation would have been In
| a flame Of war In the presence OF death
nu hearts were hushed, disSensi0n ceased For weeks
and weeks the heart and brains OF the Nation conferred
ON The sick man at the White House. At last and here
thc speaker lowered his voice to be almost unn
telribrf he went the way OF all flesh ana the Nation
wa. In mourning That Ia paragraph from the speech
/ wanted To mako weeks ago the continued, resum-
mo his natural tone and apparently wen satisfied with
his cflort II comes very pertinent here, and am
| clad had a chance TO deliver IT,
Mr. Porter went into "a searching examination OF
the letters written the prisoner before the shooting
t show that III OF them had he alluded 10 the act
| of the Deity. Many Of the questions the witness de-
cned answer, suggesting that would DC much more
| aeuslbe 10 have the letters read In tuli.
Counsel then branched of and asked the prisoner tue
necesty OF requesting General sherman to send troops
| INN, fnrh