National Republican., 1881-12-10
GRINNING GUITEAU.
rc,g,isued from First Paocl

OF the church pefhaps half dozen times.
AFR ScoviuC-Wns anything incohercnt or IRA.
tiennl il these imtcryicws2
The WitnCss--No, sir go
Mr. Scoville-ThCn YOU had no interviews with
him either in The yestthnc or the pari9r or iy any
nary subject uf religion, or matters OF business
were discussed
Mr.. Scpyinc-was yon attention called TO the
question Of his sOundnCsS or unsoundngSs OF mindY
The WitncSs-rhcrc was nothing ever suggested
III regard TO that matter.
Ciurch Records in the wiiucss.BoN.
The witness then identified, Mt the District At
toncy's request, the minutes of the meetings OF
his church. together with the rules of faith and or.
der followed by It's members; also volume Of
church letters received from other churches.
The nest witness was W S. Caldwell of Free
mort, MI. musician. lie attended The prisoners
father in his last illness. lie nOticcdNin him no
indications of unsoundncss of mind. For few
days prior TO his death he had some wild inco-
herenCy and after that stupor; but that was oc.
CasiOnCd by the poisoning Of his blood, resulting
The next witness was George W. Plummcr of
Chicago lawyer. As soon rs he was called, the
prisoner blurtcd ont: / owe Plummer go, and II
will cost the Government slOO to prove that TACT
Ito the District Attorncy)-How many more OF
these money men have you got, ColonelY Public
spending the public money. You will make this
The witness stated TINT the prisoner had OBJ.
tanned desk room in his ONCE in Chicago, and had
got out some business cards on which he de:
soribed himself MS nte of New York city," and
seemed 10 admire them very nuCn.
The Prisoner-That shows was cranked.
The Witucss-I spoke to him once or twice about
these cards, and he said that his clients were all
high toned men.
The Prisoner-That Is true You arc right there.
Gnitcnu says re Is - Iuigh-Tonrd Lawyer.
The Witness (cuntinu ing)-And that he was also
high toned, aud that he wanted his cards to be in
harmony both with his clients and himself
The District Attorney-llad you any financial
dealings with him2
The Prisoner--I owe him SO.
The MitneSs-l had agreed TO sell him n desk for
$50. He removed It; and got an express man
and went to his Office to have II taken back. He
said that the gentlemen in whose Office he was
were high-tOncd men and that he did not want
auy noise or nOtOriety. j told him that must have
the desk or the pay, and then he took out the $50
and paid It. do no think he owes me any money.
The Prisoner was under the impression that
The Wilness-At all events It is barred by the
vcrtised q lecture on the Second Coming Of
Christ told him WINS very much surprised at
his lecturiuE on that subject, because thought he
did not know much about the first coming
Uaughterl and that he had better stick to the law
lie said that the law business WINS very dull, and
That he would do better III the theology business
The Prisoncr-I do not recall that conversation
at all, guess 1t must be the result of your own
imagination.
The witness went on to speak Of the Inter. Ocean
negotiation, which the witness did not think al
all irrational considering the first. class men
whom the prisoner mentioned rs backing him.
The Prisoncr-1 had the brains and they had
the money.
a Lesson tn Manners for the AssnAsiu.
The Witness Ito the priSouer)-1t seems that youi
close alliance with the Deity and yout inspiration
have corrupted your mnnners. llAughterl
The rris0ner-1hat is a matter of opinion; bu
II Is not "A bad Joke for Western lawyer.
The witness went on TO say that he never saw
anything about the prisoner which Indicated un'
ssoundness Of mind, He considered him at The
=" lnte from New York he expected that. Laugh
teri His business was the col cciion OF accounts
He was quiet and genuemanly, and did not In
Mr. scoyille-was he different from what he mp.
pears TO bC now
The WincSs-He was much better hammered
and did not interrupt
The Prisoner-l did not have you on the stand
then.
The witness in the course of further testimony
mentioned the fact that the prisoner told him that
he had been United States consul to Mnrscillcs
and he believed him, knowing TINT the Govern.
ment very often filled such positions with very in
icriOr material.
The Prisoner-That Is absolutely false. never
held any political Office In my life, and never said
did.
The next witness was Randall D. Hnwes, one o
the judges Of the Marine Court of New York lie
testified TO the fnct that the prisoner in 1874 occu
pied desk in the oulerr room Of his Office, aud said
that he had never noticed anything In him indi
eating that he was man Of unsoifId mind.
The next witness was Mr.. stephen English, o.
New York, editor and proprietor of the Insurance
Timcs. lie detailed all the circumstances con
necled with the prisoner procuring bail for hin
while hS was IN Ludlow street jail on charge
had cheated him out $500.
Suitcan'sr Treatment of "a Former Ciien,
lie was interrupted at every slip of his narrative
by the prisoner calculating, "That is not true I:
'tondnc yourselfto the facts, English . He 30
luicly false" 81 can convict you that you are
lying: There Is not an insurance president IL
SM wh" hs d0ss no, m n9% Sysn ns you are H h5S @
Tss S SSd G ho uiSu SSS 'P Pres
dent in New York would not believe you unde
oath, you old fraud"
The District Attorney, in connection with these
frequent Interruptions simply told the witness tC
Niit I'LL the prisoner got through.
n reply 20 the question whether he had any
doubt as 10 the sanity OF the prisoner, the witnes
snid Never. ON the contrary, he appeared to b,
Al man of remarkable kecnuess OF Intellect, be
cause he completely outwiued me, tLaughterl III
was ,hrewd, active, Intelligent lawyer.
The Prisoucr-Hc had halfa dozen lawyers try
ing 10 get him out and they failed. / was tn
only man who dragged him out of that hole
They all understood his knayery and trickery
AnGrwGrd the prisoner said addressing the wit
ness, you were In Jail for wicked and deliberate
libel and you ought to be there to-day.
The ncNt witness was Warner c. Brown, Of New
York, lawyer He became acquainted with tn
prisoner from the fact Of being retained in De
ctmber, 1873 by his wife TO get n divorce fron
him, In the course Of these proceedings, up 4
April, 1874, when the decree OF absolute diyOrc
Nns granted the witness had some half dozei
conversations with the prisoner. lie seemed 4
be perfectly RATIONAL and to treat the matter n
most people would do under the same circum
stances.
As the witness left the stand, the prisoner (ad
dressing the District Attorney said: j want tn
prosecution 10 state what they consider the yuu
81 al ms testimony 70 be; The simple issue Is
Who fired that shot On the I'd of July the Deity q
]" just think Of that, Colonel Corkhill, aud le
me know the result tomorrow morning. II 1
highly irrelevant TO rip up my private record II
that mean, dirty way.
The next witness was Thomas Darlington, o
New York, lawyer He had acted for StephcI
English in periecting his bail, and In procuring
from the Court OF Common Pleas nm order for TN
arrest of the prisoner for cheating English. III
detailed the various steps on that matter, In whcl
the prisoner acted us his own attorney, examining
witness or giving objections, and drawing up yari
ous notices and papers.
The District Attorney, In replying TO mn obJec
tion 10 The testimony, stated That the object was 4
show the prisoners capacity
The PriSoncr-l ask the prosecution OF wha
possible good this testimony can be- might hay,
gone Insane dozen times between the time tn,
witness speaks Of ana the I'd OF July last think
Colonel Cnrklill, that You are showing exinior
diuuTy stupidity in the conduct of this case NJ!
private record has no possible bearing on 1t. 1
you think 1t has, you may go on and spend tn
The District Attorney TO the witness)-Dld yo,
sec anything in the prisoners conduct whicl
would suggest 10 you that he was man Of un
sound mind?
1he wtness-Nothing whatever. While his
legal attanments were not great | considered tina
he had great degree of shrewdness and naturI
intelligence; a clear, well defined purpose nm,
reasonable methods of achieving that purpose Rftc
his fashion. He was man OF wonderful industry
untirIng in taking every step which could b.
thought OF TO benefit himself and possessed of tn
shrewdness which we often find in persons OF littl
education.
Proceedings Aner the Recess.
The afternoon proceedings were opened by tn
prisoner who, addressing himself 10 the Dstric
Attorney, said: How many more witnesses hav
you got, Colonel? Can you give MS any idea p
hNo,n replied the District Attorney, mo deRnit,
idea"
Mr.. Corkhill then proceeded TO read In evidenc,
some Of the legal papers in the case Of Englisl
and GuiIeRu. Ailerthe reading of one Of them TN
prisoner exclaimed: That is square transac
tlon, Colonel, That knocks your total deprayty
theory on the head"
Charles H. Wchle, lawyer. OF New York city
was then called to the stand. He was acquainted