Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1881-12-07
IROQUOIS' TRAINER.
"A Chat with Mr. Jacob Pincus-His
Opinion OF English Jockeys and Race
Cour~es-The Fallacy Of the Time Test
I'm England.

from the ". Y. Herald.
Mr. Jacob Pincus the trainer Of Iroquois and
the string Of American thoroughbreds at New
market England, owned by Mr.. Pierre Loril-
lard, arrived in New York on Friday morning
by the Arizona He is staying at present at the
Ashland House, and there last evening, notwith-
standing the fact that by reason of his discre-
ton he long since earned among his friends the
cognomen of Jacob the Silent" he chatted for
aquarter of an hour with reporter of the Her.
aid on the events of the past English racing sea-
son, in which IrOquOis and Foxhall have played
such important parts
In speaking of the defeat of IrOquois in the
Two Thousand Guineas, Mr.. Pincus said: 1.-THE
colt was hardly himself i'm the guineas. He had
been complaining during the spring and his
legs had caused me some anxiety. After all, it
was no disgrace to go down before Perecrine
over mile. at that distance he might have
been the best horse in England at that time"
WAS there much enthusiasm among the
English over Iroquois' Derby and st. Leger vic
tories?'
Il should say there was. Why. at Doncaster
could not get near the horse until ever so
long after the race, and thought the people
who crowded round him would go wild with de
light. Before the start, when / once parted
company with him, l could not get look at
him again till he got out on the course Our
stable at Newmarket has an enormous following
among the English race-gOing public and the
victories of our horses are received with lust as
much enthusiasm as though the winners were
native born animals
what is your opinion of the relative merits
OF FOxhall and IrOquOis?"
''Oh. that is hardly fair question to ask me-
You know what each horse has DONE and if
they ever meet We shall find out which is the
better horse"
''Do you think they will meet during next
season."
well, the entries for several valuable stakes
next year will shortly be published, and it is, 1
should say. likely enough that we shall find
both horses entered in more than one event.
The GOodwood, AscOtand DOncaster cups are
highly priced, and the best horses who may not
have met as three-year-ods are generally
found competing i'm these events"
How many horses have you at present in
England?''
Eight yearlings; they will, of course, shortly
be -year-Olds-IroquOis, Sachem Gerald and
AranZa."
did you leave them all in good condition?"
"Oh, yes The stable was going on very sat
isfactorly when I left"
"DO you anticipate a continuance of victories
during next season."
''Well it's rather early to talk about that at
present If We have good luck dare say we
shall hold our own with the rest of them"
You look for stronger opposition perhaps?"
'Well am inclined to think so. There is no
doubt the English three year-Olds this season
We're not an extra good lot-nOthing like Robert
the Devil among them, nor Bend Or either. Pos
sibiy they may next year be as much above the
average again. Bruce is one who is greatly
fancied IT, as they say, he won the Criterion
Stakes easily he must be a slayer. For | saw
that race and was standing a hundred wards
below the chain when Bruce, Nellie and ST.
Marguerite came along head and head ALI
were being ridden and it was any ones race. so
II Bruce won easily he must have left the others
very fast in the last hundred yards and they had
before that proved themselves to be pretty good
ones Bruce If he trains on, will be good one
next year"
do you consider the English jockeys more
capable than Ours?"
Yes They-that is to say. such men as
Archer. Wood, Cannon, GOater and Others-ride
with better judgment. There is nothing won
derful however, abou. that. as they undergo a
much more lengthy and careful course of train
ing or education in their calling. Then again
they get great deal more riding. We have
good riders here tOo-Hayward and Feakes for
instance. The wonder about Archer is that he
rides SO light on his horse, and he is so fearless
He has never had an accident so isn't afraid to
take chances others might feel timid about; and
no matter where he is in the race, whether
start, running or finish, he is the same desper-
ateiy i'm earnest jockey. He is great rider be-
yOnd doubt"
How do you like the grass courses?"
"Why. much better than our tracks. They are
from dust, are much pleasanter to ride over"
did you continue to use the watch in trials
In England:'
Yes and the Newmarket trainers laughed at
ns for relying upon the time test, and as / now
think not without reason. 1t ia all very we'll
here. but in England. where the courses are
usually straight or nearly so, the time test be-
comes practically worthless. / am satisfied
from experience that horses time will vary
sometimes as much as fifteen seconds over
IN lltl frcf
then with the wind in his face With our
courses If the wind is against the horse part of
the way it will be in his favor further on, thus
equalizing matters pretty WELL"
Mistake ran very badly i'm the Cesarewitch
but was great fayOrite. Was he tried by the
watch?"
Yes but in the race he ran unkindly. yaw-
Ing all over the course He has turned rogue
as horses not unfrequentiy do"
docs the English method of training differ
essentially from ours ?"
'.NOt materially think; of course it NAV in
minor details Some English critics thought
ratified lroquois along too much at times The
rest, by the by, that gave him before the Leger
was compulsory. He caught an epidemic that
the new arrivals brought with them to New
market and under the advice of Mr. Barrow.
the weil-known veterinary surgeon at New
market / stopped him altogether in his work
for day or two"
THAT must have been an anxious time"
We'll. yes; but never lost confidence In his
ability TO win the st. Leger."
There was a great desire displayed to bet
against lroquOis, then, was there nOt?"
Yes: you see the touts saw him pull ND
tired at the end Of his gallOp when we got him
to work again, and they telegraphed to the men
who employed them. who. of course. thought
the colt could not be got fit by the race day.
We were obliged to tire him. for he had to do
the work TO get into condition and make up for
lost time
''Were you afraid Of any damage being done
to the colt before the st. Leger-being got at, >
o. they call it?'
.Oh. no; but some Of the trainers advised me
10 nave policeman. and was glad did there
was always such q crowd about at Doncaster as
have already said. When he arrived there
should think about three hundred people fol-
lowed him to the stable. and this excited him so
that he got FESTIVE, and when in the stable he
made plenty Of room for himself Then i'm the
early mornings there were fully thousand peo-
Pie on the course to see the gallops, and as
every one wanted to get look at Iroquos I
was afraid of his being put out again. | there
lore told the lad that when he pulled ND he was
20 trot right on through the crowd and not stop
TIL he had got good distance from them the
sail II troff Tod r;.~