New-York tribune., 1881-12-02

o-Wao.c will did you think 10 was' n ~ ~
His 80, M, II, doubt
~ ~ syc, for the two weeks Al had no oouo'
q, ,e i,.,arotion for the act being from the Dely ~
tbe fceslyiity Of rhe act, ] was in doubt
o-Yon differed IN opinion from the peiy o. a., &c
testing tho feasibility of the act whether ]" "ouiO ~
feasible or not ,.,. 1r,or 1ror,d
80, 40 do thing not feasibei A-N0 sir; every
tnr the Deity does n always right He desired me 10
,a,,o the President for the good Of the American
people.
che WAY n came to my mind If two men quarrel ana
an, kls tine other ana there is malice, this is murder
say the doctors killed tue President, not That was
homicide.
o-wero they guilty of murdarl Ain my opinion
they we're.
Most decidedly.
o-wos Jonesl A-Most decidedly.
o-Do Won think II was wrOngf A.-Without they
can show they acted the agents OF the Dety IL was
wrong II they can show that was right, anything inc
Deity does ia always right ~,
o-How do you know they did not act Us agents OF
Deity Al have no knowledge oft
oRut n YOU knew they didf Al know nothing
al,out them and nothing about them.
o-Dnt Won did care about them yesterday Al
never saw the men. care nothing ABOUT them' lhaVe
mo doubt they should be punished | expect that the
De punished.
o-Why should they be punished1 A.--Because they
made an assault citizen of the RepuDnc, without
At was the action Of the Deity.
R-You do not know whether 1t was or notf A
without they can show they acted agents OF the
Deity they ought to be punished but II tney were eA
euting The Divine will they should be set free.
O--Why should they be punished Al tod you al
mat time n you cannot understand 1t Will not repeat
a. -
o-why do you think they should be punished oy
,hoofine M you Because they have no right, unless
they can show II the act OF the Deiy' iho Do"9
action supcrsedes mans law.
o-WAaf law did they violate If they shot at your
A-umpatiently and impertinenuy) law ana
they violate II they shot at yout
o-Thats what ask yOu Al ask you.f
o. pcr-isiently)-what law did they violate A
1ne the law on the tue book of this District
The only way they can mitigate that violation is show
ing that they acted agents of the Deity Tue bei
law supersedes any mans law
o-suppose the jury should not credit 1t A-Iha' If
what jury is here for to pass upon that very 'ng
o-suppoae they should be of opinion A-(lnter-
uptinIl mn not going to suppose anything OF the
hind They are here reputable men, to pass on the
question whether the Deity fired that shot, OF whether
did. That il what they are here for
o-You said yesterday that if the Deity did not in
spre that of yours, 70 punishment could ne 700
severe or too quick for youl A-Tnat is my position
exactly.
Q-Do you think il was wrong for Mason TO shoot al
youl Al do net care about Mason or anybody else.
o-Tbe Jury do A-Tnat is a matter for them to pass
upon,
Q-Doyou think II was wrong'
TIE ASSASSIN DEFIEs JUDGE PORTER.
lam not an expert. and decline 10 answer any
more questions on that point. l not afraid of You,
Judge Porter. l know bigger men than you nave
seen you shake your finger before in New-fork' am
M PorterETherefore you can have objection to an
swsr -. ,,.o.,,., : tro,v Won we'll. have
seen you Of zen in New-NOTk 5000, q,
Q.-S0w answer my question hut hrst near II. Al Al
am rst as good as yOu and viii l1Ye you bacK as goOu
"18"If Macon shot at You with intention TO take your
life without trial, would be have done WrongI Al ue
Won't Al decline to give an opinion about Mason OF
Jones They are the hands OF the law and let the law
take lis couse Let these defend themselves IN the
best way they can don't know anything about thein
and nothing about them expect the algniIy & oi
the law be Vndicated In their case nave no "lses
Ohnd in Your case also Al desire absolute jus
ties, SIR that Is what am here for ,
Q-D5 you believe IN the Ten commandments A
o-Have you higher evidence that the Supreme Ruler
OF the universe said to YOU Thou shalt KIN thah you
entertain the idea that there any murder IN the
man is W9s 10 KIN a man during the war; and who
Would contend that the shooting Of man during the
,seuss tb matter with YOU II altogether too sacred
matter make light Of it. aud will not nave ~ Now
Ing six weeks about It. do not wish TO discuss it in
this foolish kind Of way. win not discuss this matter
o.EYonr friend Thomas North that in 1859
Gather rom behind hs back Is that truei Al do not
tecoect anything Of the KIND o-o -, - .o.o
thiryhye years old You raised an axe against her NE
Il that tue Al have no recollection On the supJect
"oMYour brother swears that you called him thief
and scoundro Did you believe that ne was timer !
A.-Undtr some circumstances did, ana unqer some
circumstances did not lt was true In certain SENSE
eept of pruninent life insurance company and he de-
isulted or some $500 He siIer"ard pald the money
Mr. scovie nerrupting~Id do not nk it proper to
The tpetulantly TO Mr. scoville)-stop your
mouth, nOw-l will tell the whole story. -, ,-A. 49,
Mr. John ". Guiteau 10 the prisOherl-Ah fIshV; 20
The prsonerMr scoyille was brothers surety for
100000 aud he came on and deposited coateTs @ anu
fhe matter was arranged Ny brothers record row Is
good liz is supposed 10 be Christian man ana Sood
man. Tnis happened in 1872 or '73.
Q-You had no ilwin against your brother on the oc-
easion ne swore to A.-No
Q~Nor against your sister when you raised the axe
against her A.-No. ~ =, A.. T.,
anybody the world that have got ilwi TO- 1t Is the
man Noyes. lie did my " father HARM ana he did ine
o@Yonr associate counsel, Mr. AInerling, swears
ward your isther in competition with the Oneida Com
muniiy you told him his life should be taRen but the
Alnighty ordered it otherwise Is that uuet Al
never said anything of the kind
AssoCIATING HIMSELF WITH THE DEITY.
fPorter continued mis- crosse Examination III TINS stye
contrasting the testimony of witnesses with the various
statemens OF the prisoner in order to involve him In
contradictions but the prisoner generally managed to
retain his position. Referring TO the prisoners state,
ments police officer that he had shot the President
Mr. Porter asked him. Had you then forgotten that the
Deity was the who shot him, and that lie cOll-
Inandel you TO do itP The prisoner replied angriy Il
do not discuss that matter with you any further
Judge Porter Iwant you 70 know that when speak OF
myeeh always associate myself with the Datyj there
is no use splitting hairs on that pOntP
Q-Pcrhaps you may decline 70 discuss with me some
other questions. A-Put the questions and viii tell
you. 49,, , -,
witness closely questioned with regard to the
different boarding houses at which he had lived while in
WashingtoD and became very uneasy at the bad show
sng be was making by his own evidence In respect TO
hones, dealing with his an1adies Hts restlessness soon
sound xpfessiOn follows FL decline 10 to so into this
husineSs ID bearing this