New-York tribune., 1881-12-10

ade aIwsvs and slow entire fairness toward the
prisoner lie has certainly avoided thus tar giving
the assassin any claim to new tilai'
THE FULL REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS.
WASHINGTON, Dec 9.-The court was called
together this morning few minutes past 10 O'CLOCK
The prisoner, usual when the handouts were re-
moved addressed the Court He, however got no fur
ther than If the Court please, when nc was stopped by
Mr.. scOvie. Turning to his counsel, he said: DO II
yourself then If you DON'T will"
The Rev DR. Macarthur. OF Eew-York, was then re-
called so stand and the District Attorney was about
20 propouud question, when Mr. Scove, interruptng
him. said In testimony of thie witness yesterday
he wac free talk not understanding the rules OF
evidence ana knowing what he was about TO say
that there good deal said by him that was not a
missble 1t ought be excluded the principle that
il man is indicted for offence. it s not proper to
give evidence Of When the defence Is insanity
IL is in this case 1t not competent to give evidence as
10 acts which have relation whatever 10 the con-
dition of his mind volunteers statements
which have connection whatever with the condition
of his mind, but calculated to prejudice the jury
against him account of something else entirely us
connected with the t0 exclude the testi'
mony Of this witness those matters which have no
bearing the case. He volunteered statements as to
charges brought against this by the church move
TO exclude all evidence as :" those charges
The pTsaner-U purely in the nature OF conies-
son aud it is entirely erroneous for Mr. Macarthur TO
told him privately six or seven years ago
want the ruling of the Court this and wall take
ception TO IL If necessary.
The Distrct-A ttOrpey-Mr Macarthur detailed to the
jury opportunities he had to observe this mans con
duct, very properly, to know how much weight to
give to the evidence Of the sanity insanity Of the pri5
oner.
The Court-Under general circumstances think that
Mr Scovilles objection would he sourd one; that s
that when is tried for one offence testimony can
~ gaf,vo hoor afEfA
the prisoners life to his mental narnities In re-
butta prosecution proposes TO show that ii was not
mental nfrmity but moral obtuseless and 1eprsvity
think that that is answer to the defenoe.
The Court therefore overued the objection and per
mitted the testimony to stand.
Tie paOner have beeu strictly virtunu5 for the last
six seven years. that that will wipe out Mac
Arthur's testimony here. want to thunder 1t to the
world far moral depravty is cCacerned that is
all AFTER Pause) / want 10 say further
that owe about S2,000-S150 in Washington, $50 in
Boston, $500 in NewYork and 500 90 in Chicago.
The Court (seYerelyl-t is necessary to speak of
that again.
The prisoner-Here this little Republican out
with stuff called " Gueau's Rascaiity." That is
the did it. Pointing reporter) Ihe does
it any will try and Gorham ahout it. You are
too fresh in your opinion my friend. Will 90 slow
you.
The redirect examination then resumed The
witness stated that in the various conversations he had
of an unsound mind that the amount Of money asked
for Gueaus letter and mentioned in the promssory
note 500. but by recollection over it he was in
-clned TO believe the amount actually paid $G5 IL
given in three istalments and he had 20 put him
self about very considerably 10 get 1t at all.
The prisoner-And appreciate it; you are a good fe
low You drew the money Of your salary am
sorry can't pay the money, but gave you my note
payable on demand.
The DistrictAttorney to stop the prisoner, who
again broke forth: II record dug up, Colo
nel 1t would stink than mine. / understand you
are booked for removal You had better go slow. The
President is only waiting 10 get this thing of his mind
before you get your tcket-Ofeave want the absolute
truth about this"
The Court-Keep quiet and let the truth out by
degrees.
The witness had very few interviews with him Alone
except those he named had conversations with him
the subject of religion in the vestbue OF the church.
perhaps half dozen times The witness identified, at
the District Attorneys request the minutes OF the meet
ngs of his church. together with the rules of faith and
order followed by its MEMBERS also volume Of church
letters received from other churches.
The next witness was W. S. Caldwell OF Freeport
ILL., physician. He attended the prisoners father In his
last Illness. He noticed in him indications OF un
soundness of mind for few days prior to his death he
had wild ncoherency and after that stupOr, but
that caused by poisoning Of his blood resulting from
tnacticn Of the liver.
The witness George W. Plummer, OF Chicago,
lawyer. AS he called the prisoner burted
out: Plummer 500 and it will cost the Govern
ment 800 TO prove that fact ITO the District Attor
ney-How many of these money have you
got Colonei Public attention should be called to the
way you are spending the public money. You Will make
this trial cost 100000
The witness stated that the prisoner had obtained
deskroom in his Office in Chicago, and mad got out some
business cards which he described himself " late
of New-York City," and seemed TO admire them very
much
The prisoner-That sho wed was cranked
The District Attorney-Had you any financial deal
ings with himi
The prisoner-I owe him $50.
The witness went TO speak OF The Inter Ocean nego
tiaons which the witness did think at all
toned as backing him.
The prisoner-I had the brains and they had the
money.
The next witness was Granville b. Hawes one OF the
Judges of the Marine Court of New York BE testified to
the fact that the prisoner in 1874. occupied desk In
noticed anything IN him indicating that he was man OF
uns0und mind
TIIY ASSASSIN VIOLENTLY ABUSES A WITNESS.
The next witness was Mr. stephen English, OF New
York, editor and proprietor of The Insurance Times
He detailed all the circumstances connected with the
prisoner procuring bail for him while he In Ludlow
Street Jail a charge Of libel lie was interrupted
every step his narrative ny the prisoner eaculang
"That IL not true y C0nne yourself 10 the facts Eng
lish" lie got arrested by actual perjury; That
Is absolutely false can convict that you are |
lying There Is Lot insurance president ia New YORK
That is tho biggest lie you have spoken. Why, would
pot spit on In the street. old scoundre y The
Insurance. presidents Of New York woAd not believe
In reply to question whether be had any danht az