National Republican., 1881-12-07
Mr. scov,,le--r ask Won vo,r own onip,or


Mr. scovllle-Is there any such political merit
in TINT speech
The Prisoner dnterruptng)-I won't have you
Mr. scoyille (continuing)-as to enttle him to
demand the Austrian mission as a reward for it7
The Prisoner--I did not claim anything of the
kind. II Is silly talk to put that in.
The Court-That Is too Wide question.
Mr. scovile-The jury can judge OF that
O. The ,Prisoner-(approvinEy) OF course TO Mr..
YOU ARE GETTING CRANKY ON THIS BUSINESS
YOURSELF.
Then, assuming the role Of counsel, tho prisoner
turned TO the witness and asked "Did YOU not
write or inspire editorials last spring denouncing
President GarfeldT
selves.
The Prisoner-Is not that fact? Did YOU not
inspire the writing Of editorials dcnouncing Gar.
field In the bittercst terms for wrecking the Re-
publican party7
The witness1I win not answer th9t question
themselves. The files are in existence
| The Court-The files can be produced.
| The Pfsoner--I ask an order TO have the files
The District Attorney-Mr. Gorham docs not
have control of the files.
The Pris9ner5Hs 8 ihe editor, and the gentle;
actually write the articles he inspired them. The
paper denounced Garfield In the btterest terms in
They could not say anything hard enough against
him, and now they are dclying him. TO MFR.
Davldge)-Will you admit the fact that TnB RE
fbiLlNAN Nuo uNhouhNihs NhhNAh III hiHb mhy
Mr. Dsyidge-I did not read THE REPUBLICAN,.
READ VERY FEW PAPERS.
| The Prisoner Ito Mr. Gorham)--I will have 10
recall you at a later period when the files are
brought IN. After pause the prisoner broke out:
81 would like to know If Your Honor has signed
| that order2"
| The Court-I have not looked at Il.
The Prisoner (excitedly)-What has become Of
that order? (To Mr.. scoyille)-I suppose you have
| upon it.. would like TO ask the clerk of the
| court II he has an order to issue subpmneas for
General Grant, Collector Robertson. Mr.. Jewell and
Mr.. scoville said that last Friday subpoena had
been issued TO President Arthur, as he could prove
| certain things which could not be proved by any
| other person. He had endenvored 10 treat the
/ President with all due consideration. He went to
see him Yesterday, but the President was then
| very busy on his message. He went there again
| this morning and understood that the President
bad been up the greater part Of last night. It
might not be practicable for the President TO come
into court to-day. He therefore proposed that, at
! whatever stage Of the case the President might
find IL convenient TO come, his testimony should
MI Dayidse called on Mr.. scoyille to state
WHAT HE ExPECTBD TO PROVE ny THE PRESIDENT.
Mr.. Scoville-I expect 10 prove by him that the
prisoner some time In October nstafter came here)
wrote TO the President letter which was sent TO
him, addressing him In very familiar terms, and
requesting him, Us one equal might request
another, TO do certain things of public character
Iexpect to prove that the prisoner In this letter
applied to the President (apparently) with conf
dencc that the President would heed his requests
and comply with them. And expect TO show by
the President that he had never given the prisoner
any grounds for supposng that lie ever knew him.
claimed: That is false sir considered General
Arthur and all those men as on friendly relations
| with me. Wheneyerthe met me on the street they
| treated me we'll (TO Mr.. Scoville) / repudiate
| you and your theory. You had no business to get
Into this case at all, and you would not have got
into il II you had no, ' been my brother. law
| like BOBBY You sneaked into this case.
WAS ON GOOD FRIENDLY RELATIONS WITH GRANT
| and Arthur and Conkling and Jewell, and all that
kind Of men. They alwqys treated me u friendly
| and kindly way. again turning on Mr. Scovillc)
Your idea that am fool repudiate.
Mr.. Scoville-I propose TO show by President
Arthur that all that the prisoner is now saying is
The Prisoner--It is not. These men were always
| very pleased and glad TO see me.
Mr.. Scoville-And that the prisoner never had
any reasonable grounds, any such grounds as a
sane man would act upon
The Prisoner (aercely)-I repudatc that theory
Mr.. scoville (fnishing his sentence)-to apply
to President Arthur for any favor or position
whatever. Those are some of the facts which
expect to show by the President
The Prisoner-lou cannot show It,
Mr.. scoville-I DO not expect to question the
private relations, but simply to those personal
matters connected with the prisoner as 10 which
| President Arthur Is Informed ana which cannot
| show by any other person.
The Prisoner (contemptuously, to Mr.. Scoville)-
You never had anything to do with those high
| toned men. You do not know how to act with
them. Yoo have been always awny down III the
dirt.
YOU HAVE GOT NO POLITICAL RECORD
| You ought to have stayed In Chicago, and not
come into this case; You have 40 capacity for this
| kind of business. What do you know about II ?
| You will not sit down on me /" amy more.
| Mr.. Porter in solemn tones, suggested thnt this
| court, branch of the Judiciary Department OF the
Government, had no right to compel the attend
| unco of the President, summoning him from the
discharge of his duties to the Nation TO serve the
purpose OF a criminal aud he proposed that in
President and his answers to them received in
| evidence
The Prisoner, with great irrtability of manner)-
| / object TO Mr.. Scoville coming here and com
promising my case. Itfs not just, and there is no
sense in II. He came into the case merely because
me- ne rs my 10 oc i SSone r i c15n ma
death and asked me II he should not send for Mr..
Scovllle he would not have been here. He is no
| criminal lawyer and no politician.
WANT A FIRST GLASS ARTIST ON THIS CASE
Mr.. Scoyille-I accept tho offer of Mr.. Porter.
That is, will PROFOUND written questions to the
President and take bis written answers as evi
dence.
The Prisoner (breaking in)-I do not care sin.
gle cent about President Arthur being in the case
but do want To- have Grant and Conkling and
| Jewell aud this class OF men.
Mr. scovile-I considerit important and neccs.
sary that the defense in this case should have in
| some form the testimony of the President. have
done my best obtaint t Itis almost absurd for Mr.
Porter 10 claim, In his solemn manner that a
DrunCn O1 the Judiciary cannot command the nt-
tendance of the Executive. The President may
know a fact material 70 the defense of this man /;
and counsel has no right TO say that the President
shall not be called into court to Yindicate u crn-
inal He Is not criminal until the verdict of the
Jury is rendered, and he is entitled TO all the rights
Of every American citizen He is entitled To- the
President or laborer, that Is necessary TO his de-
fense.
The Court
REDUCE YOUR INTERPRETATIONS TO WRITING,
and IL the ruling of the Court * will rua
Mr.. scovlle-I am willing to do that / only
done. Ihavc stated fairly and candidly what
propose 10 show by the President, and do not
propose TO go any inrther. But ] cannot reduce
The Court-lt can be done this afternoon.
The Prsoner-l wish to know whether Your
| Honor considers the defense now closed. Iwant
the chance TO subpmna those prominent men whose
names have given to Your Honor, and want a
| ruling on that,
Mr Porier-That is a. question of practice and
discretion ut the present stage of the trial
| The Prisoner Onterruptng)-
YOU KEEP QUIET JUDGE
Mr.. Porter (contnuing)-And isnot a proceeding
that is subject TO revision or appeal. Your HonoI
can best determine II out of court and the progress
Of the trial should not DO arrested by IL IN court
The Court Ito the prisoner)-I will look into that
The Prlsoner-I thank Your Honor. / want
Justice and no more than Justice, In the matter.
gentlemen whenever we can get access 10 them
Iwnnicd them subppnaed several days ago, but
Mr.; Seoville and do not ngree on the theory
of this defense. II Mr.. storrs were defending this
case lie and would be In perfect harmony. lie
Is nn ADLER man than Mr.. ScoYille III eve way.
n l am very sorry that
COULD NOT dEr MR.. srORIs IN THE CASH.
Mr. storrs is politician, and Que Of tue most brill
lIand men at the American bar Mr.. ScOyille is
doing well enough oii his theory but his theory Is
too narrow on this kind of business. That Is all
the trouble with him. 1t requires A. first ,clnss
artist TO do this ne work.
Mr.. John W. Guteau was recalled to give the
dnte at which he bcganto change his mind as To
his brothers mental condition. lie dated. the
change from the receipt of bundle of his letters
from his sister Flora after the 2lst of October last
Mr.. SeOyille then proceeded TO read some post
ers aud hand bills. advertising the book called