Savannah morning news. [volume] (Savannah) 1868-1887, 1881-08-09
The "LIoyd Mig InventIon. man


GOeIh SAP Messrs. Ludden &
Bates.
Editor Morning Nesns Some weeks since
we, through your valuable columns, warned
the public against one J. 7. LLOYD. the 'Big
Invention" map man. The exposure was
calculated to interfere with his 'slittle
game" and hence would naturally excite
his ire. he has been 9 long time getting
mad, but 1t has come at last, as is shown by
the following letter, which, although dated
at Washington, D. c., was sent Us from the
Marshall House, by negro boy, and in an
unstamped, unsealed envelope:
''GENTs-You have basely attacked me,
and for this shall score you In my forth
coming Tine Table Nap Of Georgia, to be
issued as q newspaper, at 10 cents a copy,
and shall see that every house in Savannah
reads 1t and every house In the State knows
who Ludden & Bates are and their rascallv
conduct to perfect stranger to them. As
for owing you cent or ever owing you a
copper, think you will, before you get
through this fight, acknowledge you have
made great mistake.
washington City, D. G.
"TO Lasdden & Bates"
We care little what J. T. Lloyd thinks or
does In the matter, but we desire that the
public should understand that our action in
publishing said Lloyd was based entirely
upon desire to protect our friends and fel
low merchants from being grossly imposed
upon. Lloyd and bis gang. aud very likely
some OF our particular friends % also, will say
that we are not 90 disinterested as all that,
but nevertheless it is the truth, aud II we
do not get credit for our good intentions, It
will be all the same to US. We saw q swind-
ling operation being perpe'rated, and simply
did what every business man has right to
do; yea, more, should do. The satisfaction
OF having thus saved hundreds Of citizens
from being victimized is enough for US,
whether we get any thanks or not.
To satisfy the public that we have good
grounds for our belief that said ]. T. Lloyd
is no better than Common swindler," and
that he is not by any means such "perfect
stranger" to US as he claims, we present the
following facts, viz:
In 1875 we received from J. T. Lloyd a
printed proposition to publish the following
advertisement in our Musical Journal, prom
ising to send US in payment large Office
map;
ga BIG INVENTION.
"Lloyd, the famous map man, who made
all the maps for General Grant and the
Union army, certificates Of which he pub
lished, has just invented way of getting q
relief plate from steel so as to print Lloyd's
Map OF American COntinent-showing from
ocean to ocean-on one entire sheet Of bank
note paper, 40x50 inches large, on a light
ming press, and colored, sized and vanished
for the wall so as TO stand washing, and
mailing anywhere IN the world for 80 cents,
or unvarnished for 25 cents. This map shows
the whole United States and Territories In a
group, from surveys to 1875, with million
places on it, such as towns, cities, villages,
mountains, lakes, rivers, streams, gold
mines, railway stations, etc. This map
should be In every house. Send 80 cents to
the Lloyd Map Company, Philadelphia, and
you will get copy bv return mail"
Lloyd's maps, as published by z. LLOYD, OF
Philadelphia, ale standard and well known,
and, supposing j. T. LLOYD was the original
and genuine LLOYD map publisher we &C
cepted the proposition, as did thousands Of
other publishers. We ran the <'sd." In good
faith, mailed him marked copies, sent sew
ersl bills, and wrote him several letters ask
ing that his promise be redeemed, but nary
map or word Of reply did we get. We then
wrote several large advertising agencies at
the North and were informed that J. T.
Lloyd was well known there as a notorious
swindler Of the advertising fraternity. Fur
thermore, many OF our subscribers seeing
the advertisement above in our magazine,
sent the twenty five cents to Lloyd for the
map, but did not recei1e It, To test the cues
ton still further, we forwarded twenty five
cents for copy, and with the same result.
Being thus satisfied that the whole thing
was fraud, we exposed 1t in our Journal
and mailed copies to Lloyd. We were
strangers" and he took US in, but we are
now strangers no more"
Some four weeks ago young man brought
into our place one of the printed prospec-
fuses Of L'oyd's proposed map Of Savannah,
and asked our opinion OF 1t. We gave II to
him in plain English, and he admitted that
such loere his OaoH impressions, and added
that he had been canvassing for Lloyd IN
Atlanta, and taken hundreds Of subscrip-
tons, and now twas in bad box" as he
was satisfied that Lloyd was fraud, and
would not deliver the maps for which be
(the canvasser) had collected, and paid over
TO him, the money.
A week later, we found that these pros
pectuses were scattered broadcast, and the
city was being energetically canvassed,
under the superintendent Of either j. T.
Lloyd In person, or some one registering
under his name, with headquarters at the
Marshall House. Many (who ought to have
known better) were planking down their 50
in advance, and therefore we thought that a
word of warning might be Of good service,
and we gave 1t.
J. T. Lloyd now bankers after revenge
and threatens to "score" US in his wonder
ful ten cent time table map OF Georgia,
which will undoubtedly be work of high
art, and we have simply to say, ''Go in, J.
T., but be careful and speak the exact
truth, for II you speak falsely concerning
US, or in any way misrepresent us, we shall
go for YOU in another way than through the
papers"
In conclusion we have to say that IL J. 7.
Lloyd can show one single false statement from
US, concerning himself or his business, we
Will most cheerfuily publicly acknowledge
our error, and at any cost will set him right
before the public. What more can he
asks Very respectfully,
LUDDEN Is BATES.