Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1881-02-22
afternoon Session.
IN COMMITTEE or THE WHOLE,


Senator Rice in the chair, number of Sen
ate and House bills were considered and re-
ported back.
Senator Rice moved that the Senate proceed
to the consideration of the railroad bond bills.
Carried.
Senator Plisbury moved that Senate file 800
be indefinitely postponed.
Senator Kinds asked if the friends of the bill
No. 30l intended to move to amend it.
Senator Pillsbury said that such was their
intention.
Senator Kinds wanted Mr.. Pllsbury to with
draw his motion to indefinitely postpone.
Senator Pfllsbury withdrew his motion and
moved to amend by striking out all after the
enacting clause and inserting new bill or sub
stitutc.
Senator Kinds moved that the amendment
be printed
Senator Pillsbury thought action on the
bill should not be delayed beyond to-day, in
order that the House should have time to con-
slider the measure.
Senator D. Buck thought il very strange
that the bill was being pressed in this manner,
and he did not believe the friends of the bill
would gain anything by such course.
Senator J. B. Gilfllan suggested that the
bill be printed and that third reading and
passage of the bill take place tomorrow.
Senator Pillsbury said there would be no
objection to putting the bill on its passage to-
morrow, but wanted it discussed at once.
Senator Buck wanted the bill printed so
that Senator's could have the bill before them
during its discussion.
Senator Pllsbury said the bill was very
much like S. F. sol and the changes could be
easily understood.
Senator Wilson said If anyone wished to
talk upon the general scope of the bills he
hoped they would do so at this session.
Senator Castle moved the substitute be
adopted subject to further amendment.
Senator'S J. B. Gilfillan said the original bill
provided for submitting the question to arbi-
traton and then to pay fifty cents on the dollar
of adiudged Indebtedness, while. in its present
form it accepted a proposition for honorable
settlement of disputed claim.
Senator Kinds wanted Chamberlains propo-
sition produced, saying that two different
propositions had been made; wanted to know
which was Chamberlain and who spoke for
Chamberlain.
Senator Pillsbury said that Chamberlain had
consented to the notifications made In the
bill
Senator Kinds said lie was not aware of
solitary thing having come in an authoritative
way from Mr.. Chamberlain, leaving the prop
osition first made as the one binding,
him The matter would then stand
in this wise: You have adjudicated this ques-
ton in your own manner, and now l want
you to open your purse and pay me. There
was nothing here to bind him after the State
had submitted the matter to adjudication.
Senator ]. B. Gillian said that the only
question to he submitted to the tribunal was
the validity of the constitutional amendment
of1Se0, the proposition of Mr.. Chamberlain for
soc. on the dollar of the bonds having been
agreed upon in the bill
Senator Kinds said Chamberlains proposi.
ton was not before the Senate in an antborits-
tive form.
Senator Pillsoury said that Chamberlain
would submit it in writing
Senator Kinds said that would make the mat
termore satisfactory. The bill S. F. 800 he con-
sidered vast improvement on the first propo-
sition? Is it fair proposition He then
read from the report made by the commits
sioners of 1866, showing that the bondhold
ers had proposed to take about &c. on the
dollar. The bondholders had not made their
proposition on the ground that the State
owed them any more. The only reason why
the State had not paid the bonds long ago was
err should deposit 1000 of the bonds before il
could be a.ted upon. In view of these facts
he thought S. F. 229 was a fair
proposition. The commission made
an Investigation as to what the bonds cost
Selah Chamberlain, and the investigation
showed that the Sl,OUO,UO0 OF bonds cost him |
S29s, 900. We are, as Senator's, to talk facts as
they come to us in an authoritative way. We |
are to act for the good of the people, and not |
as attorneys for Chamberlain. The promo. |
sition was to give the whole 500, 900 acres of |
internal improvement bonds, which would |
give Mr.. Chamberlain S1.65 for each 9Oc of !
the principal and interest of the cost of his |
bonds. He considered it liberal offer, and |
one which the State could honorably make. /
and which the bondholdcrs would be glad to |
accept. The people had once adopted the
proposltson, and 1t was fair to presume the |
people would approve of it now. The people /
generally concede the desirability of settle |
ment OF the question. Selah Chamberlain is
the only man that has stood in the way of /
settlement of the bonds, and under the Indie.
lary committee bill he is offered more than
value received. Mr.. Kinds then com,ared
the methods proposed in the iudicisry ,.nno
mlttes.s substitute bill. and Mr. Plish.s,