New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1881-07-26

STRONG EFFORTS MADE BY THE IRISH MEMBERS TO
SECURE TIE REMOVAL. OF MIR. FORSTER FROM
THr IRISH OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES. GLADSTONE DE-
TENDs mM-POPULAR SUPPORT ACCORDED HIM
ALSO.
iFROM TUE REGULAR CORRESPONDENT or THE TRIBUNE
LONDON, July l2.-Our Irish friends in Parlia-
ment whatever else their merits may be. are en-
Ii, ed to credit IN very important particular
They have a genius for the discovery OF blunders
and an uuexaInplcd energy in committing them.
As political tacticians they have not Their equals
IL they had. politics would soon be dsordcrly
scramble. Their peculiar talents in these matters
were brought into brilliant relief again hast night,
when thew made a fresh assault on Mr.. Forster. SO
long time has eapScd--t must be ten days a
dOrtnght-suce their last performance of tins kind
that people who don't know Mr. Pamclrs band
thoroughly began to imagine they bad seen the
folly of batting the Chief Secretary for Ireland
Evexy body else perceived that the more savagely
the Irish rrcconcilables assailed Mr.. Forster the
moro complete bee anne the confidence of the gem
era public in him. Now the iIrcconcilabes though
they profess not to for English opinion, do care
for it to this eXteut. They know it supp orts Mr..
Forster i'll his present place, and they really want
to get rid OF Mr.. Forster. If they anybody
but themselves, they would therefore omit doing
saving ANYTHING which should strengthen the man
whom they want to weaken. They know that
every attack they make ON Mr. Forster strengthens
him, but the Parnelhtes cannot draw plain
else their rage get the better of their sense AT
any rate they have had another fling; and perhaps
paid dearcr for It than for any of their previous
Parliamentary jIgs
The pretext found last night was the old one.
Somebody had been arrested under the Coercion
Act. The ParnellItes wanted to know why. 1t
settled FROM the first that information of that
sort could not be given. Even The PaU MAI
GGsete which is almost Irish the Irish on this
question, admits that it would be impossible to
work tho Coercion Act if the Government
forced to state the information which they act
jim these arrests and that 1t would be impossible to
work Parliament if it were to be turned into court
of review for each of the 200 arrests less,
that have been made Mr.. Daily. who put the
question to Mr.. Forster i'll the House, knew per
fectly we'll that it would not and could not be
answered What Mr.. DAILY wanted was not an an
swcr but a W. The accredited mode Of getting
up in the House is to pretend to be dissatisfied
with Ministerial answer and to move the adj
journment of the House in order to make some
observation on the subject inquired about This
Mr. Daily did. Mr. Parnell seconded Mr.. Days
motion observing that there were now no less than
200 respectable" men in the Government iails in
Ireland, and yet Mr.. Forster would state why
they imprisoned. Mr. Parnells speeches on
these occasions are, for the most part of second
rate Importance lie likes to dcpute to some of his
young men of h honorable members" as he
termed them the other day by happy slip of the
tOngue-the task of making themselves disagree
able. The young chosen in this case was Mr.
Il. y. O'ConnOr whose gifts for such business are
OF the most indisputablc kind. Mr.. OConnor, with
that want of humor which strangely charactcrizes
tins generation of Irishmen, presented himself as
spokesman of the English Liberals, and in their
name demanded that Mr.. Forster should be turned
out of the Government Well, if there he any man
who, after Mr.. Gladstone and Mr.. Bright English
Liberals delight to honor it is Mr.. Forster If
there be any men whom they have emphatically
refused to follow or cOuntcnance in any way, they
are Mr. Parneu and his young man O'Connor and the
rest of the Parnell squad. But Mr.. O'ConnOr
Thought point could be made by drawing dis
tincton between Mr. Forster and Mr.. Gladstone
The latter, he admitted, anxious to befrend
Ireland 50 far as he knew how. But Mr.. Forster
the wicked who was responsible for the
present state of Ireland, and it was he who backed
by the Wing rcacuonaries of the Cabinet, had
dragged the Liberal party through all these
wretched measures of coercion. Then Mr.. Fmigan
swung his shllelah and denounced Mr. Forster as n
misguarded and misguided man-whatever that
may be-and the evil genius of the front bench
Mr. lealy suggested that Mr. Forster should lie sent
to Hong Kong. Mr.. Biggar proposed India or at
any rate to IA hotter climate than ireland =" polite
allusiOn which drew cheers from the amable band
about him.
1t is a question whether talk of this kind might
not best he left to answer itself But Mr. Glad
stpnt WHO can SETON Slt Sill unucr anything took
the opportunity of saying for all that he could
not permit line to be drawn between the Chief
Secretary FOR Ireland and his colleagues:
OF my right honorable friend | wish to say
these two bngstat if there il thing harsh,
obtained from this House or in the present adninistra-
lion of Ireland he is whit responsible for
them than the members o. the Cabinet he
belongs Oud cheers and Home Rule counter cheersl,
and no distinction may DE drawn between Us ana him;
and the other hand if there be in the bill
fore the House anything that is kindly anything is
Beneficial to the Irish people, there is member of that
Cabinet to whom the credit OF this kindly and beneficial
enactment is in any degree due to my right
honorable friend. Loud cheers
To which Sir Stafford NOrthcote added that he
Thought Mr.. Days motion abuse of the forms of
the House, and that what had been said of Mr..
Forster deserved the reprobation and disfavor of
the House generally. Beyond doubt Mr.. DAILY and
his cODiederates got what they descrvcd-I say
cOnedcTates because scenes of this sort are care
fully arranged beforehand. The press of both
parties are of one mind The public irrespective of
party, condemns the attacks More than that it
understands fairly well the difficulties of Mr.
dorsters position and of Coercion. If the ParncI-
stes satisfied with Mr. Forster the public
would not be satisfied. Irish dispeasure is tcst-
mony, so far as ii goes to the efficiency of Mr. Fors
tiers administration. If MeSSrs Parnell & Co. were
pleased instead of dspcased with what has been
done, Coercion would really be the failure which
two three Liberal journals take pleasure in repre-
senting it to be. 1t is, fact failure only so far
as the Act has been worked with too great lenity.
G. W. s.