Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1881-11-25

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offer any resistance to the officer; he appeared t
| be explaining something; when he reached wit
ness he heard him say it was all right: he seemed
TO De doing all the talking: he was master OF th,
| situation When the crowd got around the pr1S
oner grew even more arrogant and egotistical IL
manners. He held paper over his head and said
81 want this letter delivered to Gen. Sherman.
| Will explain al.'
The witness seemed excited, and seemed to ac
! as though he was dissatisfied with the way he was
! being treated. Witness had never seen the prts
| oner before. He was not cross-examined.
TESTIMONY OF LAWYER REED, OF CHICAGO.
| Chas. H. Reed, of Chicago, ILL.,, was called, ant
sworn. He testified that he was lawyer; had re
sided in Chicago since 1860; had been states at
torney there twelve years ago; first recolected tn
| prisoner on his appearance as a lawyer; did mo-
| remember examining him for admission at The
bar; the prisoner appeared to defend small case
Which witness was prosecuting; after the evidence
was adduced witness said TO the court that ther,
| was no necessity for argument; Mr.. Guiteau in
sisted upon being heard, and the court allowed
OF an hour; he remembered it on account Of its in
conference; he introduced all sorts Of subjects
| into the case; he talked OF theology and tht
divinity. 1t was very wandering, rambling
speech, full OF pecuarltteS and vagarieS; witness
saw the prisoner alterwardsand discovered that he
was young man OF some educa ton he thought ;ht
saw peculiaritics about him; one tine he said he
had new project at that time; he was going tC
leave the law and buy out the Chicago Inter ocean
he said he had some wealthy friends who were
going to help him; that some influential polit
clans wanted the paper changed, and wanted hin
very often talked to witness on the subject of re-
ligion: he said to witness once that he had a
pamphlet on the second coming of Christ and
urged witness to read it; he wanted witness to
give him certificate to its merits, he could
make some money out OF it; witness read it. The
prisoner said the pamphlet would do him (w1tnessl
and everybody else good, as the Lord had inspired
him to write it and it was as much
| inspired the New Testament; witness
thought he was perfectly sincere; he saw the priS-
oner here last summer; had an interview with him
on the Tuesday before the shooting; the prisoner
came to the Riggs House to see witness; touched
his {witnessD shoulder, and said he wanted to see
him alone; withess stepped aside with him: he
said: "Mr. Reed, l owe you s35; want to borrow
S15 more from you. That Will make $50, and when
place, and Guiteau replied "Coasul to Paris" Wit
ness asked him if he had not given up that idea,
Mr.. Blaine owed it to him for his services In the
campaign; that Mr.. Blaine WAS on his side; he
required then to the s15. but witness said he did
not have it in his pocket AS he turned to go
away he said, 81 can find some other friends Who
will let me have it," Then throwing up his hand
he said, You say won't get that place; now you
watch the newspapers fOr a few days and you will
see my name sent in for continuation" The
prisoner looked haggard and friendleSS; usually
he was very neat in lis personal appearance, but
at That time he was seedy; his eyes were very
quick in their motions; witness had frequently,
during the summer, had conversations with Gui-
teau In reference to his oiiice-seeking; once he
wanted witness to go to the President ana intro
duce him, saying he needed some one from Illinois
10 vouch for him.
Witness had advised the prisoner to look for
some minor place-one OF no responsibility. Gui-
teau became very excited, ana said that If he
could not have the cOnsulSh1p at Paris he did net
Want any; witness had an interview with the priS-
oner in the jail a few weeks ago with Mr.. Scoville
Mr.. Scovile asked here what Was said in this
interview?
Mir. Davdge objected to this as tnadmissible.
The court ruled that he could not cOnfine the in
quiry IS to any time; the jury would have to de-
terrnine whether the actions OF the prisoner were
1elgned or real.
MR.. REEDS INTERVIEW WITH GUTEAU AT THE JAIL.
Mr.. Scoville then repeated tho question.
The witness described the interview with the
prisoner at the jail Guiteau was lying down, and
when witness asked him why he shot the President
he rose from his couch and began in very excited
manner sort OF incoherent speech. He said: 81
didn't do it; the Lord did it; he used me as an in
strument Tor the salvation OF the party by the
removal Of the President"
Witness asked why he used the word ''remOval'
Instead OF killing, and he (the priaOner said that
"renoyaW was the right word. The prisoner was
witness concluded that he Was OF unsound mind;
he had no doubt OF it, The witness concluded,
after the Riggs House interview, that the prisoner
was "on his balance" mentally.
Cr0ss-examined by Mr.. Davidge, witness said
that he went to Jail because Mr.. ScOville told him
that Guiteau had mentioned his name and pro-
posed that he should go; witness did not remem-
Der having examined the prisoner for admission
to the bar; the statement that he had asked Gui-
two, must have been a mistake; he would never
have recommended a man under such circum-
stances; 1t Was very difficult odetermine whether
Guiteau was responsible or not; he would not Ike
to give an opinion on that; had never said since
the shooting that he thought the prisoner re-
spOnsibie
''DO you mean to say" asked Mr.. Dayidge
"that you did not state to Col Corkhill that while
the man was cranky, you did not think he was SO
Mr.. ScOvlle WdS about to OBJ, ,ect when the wit
ness replied: "No Sir. never stated such
thiDg.n
Mir. Davidge repeated the question more specfl-
cally, locating the interview at the Ri 5gs house.
.''sNo, sir" replied the witness, ''r he tCoL Cork
hilD understood me to say So"
Mr.. Davidge here remarked:
II think you were sitting here the other day
aiding In the defence"
''NU, Sir" said the witness. Being further uues-
toned, he said he had made some suggestions to
Mr.. SCoville.
to the interview with Guiteau In the Riggs house.
GUITEAU COMPLIMENTS MR. REED, BUT CoNTRADIcrs
The prisoner here started up and said: 81 don't
want to contradict Mr.. Reed, because ne is good
fellow. The fact is, l spoke to Mr.. Reed when
was pressing my ella i'm for the Paris consulship
l never spoke to Mr.. Reed or any one else for two
months prior to the 1st of july"
Mr.. Davidge here remarked to the prisoner that
these Interruptions could be dispensed with.
1--WE want the facts, judge" said Guteau to
Mr. Davtdge. {" dontcare whether they are for
me or against me-"
You have been INDUCED to a great extent" re-
marked Mr. Davidge
It's right should be- appear here as my own
counsel"
The prisoner continued to contradict the wit
ness.
"ThiS conversation with Mr.. Reed" he said.
F." occurred about two months before the difficulty.
You say close to July. / say it was close to May.
With that exception you are entirely correct"
The Court Threa1e ns to Gag Guiteau,
bUt ERe Keeps UP His Talk.
The prisoner grew so Obstreperou5 that the
court sternly commanded him to keep silence.
"Anything,' said Guteau, ssthat gets into my head
sticks. I say that l never said that 1t isn't
true"
The court here said: :If there is no way of pre-
venting these Interruptions you Will have to be
gagged, that is all, If the trial can't go on.'
The prisoner kept silent moment, when the
witness having referred again to his aspirations
for Office, he broke out, saying: 81 had some bigger
men back Of me than you, Mr.. Reed. You are a
good fellow and all that. but 1 want the truth
about this mater"
The prisoner continued during the examination
of Mr. Reed to interrupt him, saying 'true" or nOt
true" according as he approvedD or disapproved the
testimony.
IL never said anything OF this kind at ALL" he
rOared once, when Mr.. Reed had been repeating a
conversation. ~ rest my defence entirely on the
Inspiration that came from the Deity for that act
and will take my chances ON the result don't
want any lying or anything like that"
Before Mr.. Reed closed, Guftesku gave him balm
for his wounded feelings by remarktng, Sententi-