New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1881-10-11
THE TALK OF THE DELEGATES.

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THE TALK OF THE DELEGATES.
AN OVERWHELMING TILDEN MAJoRITY-MR. TILDRNs
COUNSEL GUIDING THE coNvENTIoN-TAMMANY
HALL WITHOUT ALIIks AND HOPELESS OF ADJ
MIssfoN-GEsERAL CONFIDENCE OF CARRYING
THE STATE.
IBY TELEGRAPH TRIBUNE.l
ALBANY, Oct. 10.-Thc Tuesday Convention is
comparatively new thing in State politics. Tho
custom has been in both parties to call Conventions
for Wednesday, thus giving delegates from the most
quarters Of the State time to reach tho place
of meetsng reasonable interval before the Conven-
ton ITSELF and To get home again by Sunday But
in the last year two the Tuesday Convention has
become the rule in the Democratic party; so tho
usual dialogue between average citizens runs about
as follows:
First average citizen" The Convention meets
on Wednesday, doesn't itW
Second average citzen-"N No, on Tuesday"
First average citizen" What's that forp
And the second average citizen never tell
him. Neither of them knows that this is only an
other of the sinful games of that wicked and sa-
gacOus old man of Gramsrcy Park. Being perfect-
y well aware of the scrupulous morality Of his op-
ponents within the party, and knowing that no
anti Tilden Democrat would ever travel on Sum
day, he has the State Conventions called for Tues
W.
ponents will start for the Convention
til Monday morning. They do not arrive
until the most of his followers, who have
no scruples about travelling Sunday and
are generally known to be bold and bad men, have
occupied the ground and made it their own Tho
atc-comers find all the arrangements carefully pre-
arranged have little time for consultation and, in
short find the enemy in possession of the works. In
this way does the designing and INSCRIPTIONS old
man OF Gramercy Park put the lcftiest principles
of his adversaries to his own advantage. But to
speak with all seriousness, the Tuesday Convention
is Tilden idea and a shrewd one. Largo
numbers of the delegates arrive late, and
only those who are in sympathy with the Tilden
managers and have the cue to be on hand carly ere
apt to do so The advantage is obvious In this
Convention it does not prove of much moment, be-
cause there seems to be practically no minority
but the Tlden managers could not of course be sure
that this would he when they called 1t.
MR. TILpEN TILE PARTY COUNSELLOR.
The public naturally takes good deal of interest
in the question whether not Mr. Tden Is still the
active leader of his party, and Is still
attempting to control its organization. The talk OF
one Tilden man on this subject is good sample OF
the talk of all. One of them said to-day: MIR.
TIl5en takes interest in politics, of course. Ha
will do that as long as he lives; and when VIC go to
him for advice he'll give it, and when we ask him for
his check he'll give that but lie is too old and too
feeble to take an actual part in the management OF
the party especially now, when he has just recov-
cred from troublesome sickness. Why
should hei What has he to gainf The talk
of his running for Governor is absurd. He said the
other day that nothing would induce him TO take
the Office if for other reason than that he would
not be willing to live in Albany. As for the Pres-
dency, that is out of the question. he knows that
his age and his weakness would make II foolish for
him to think of it. 1t is three years before nonina-
tions will be made, four years before
the Inauguration, aud four years after
that he would have to serve, eight years
in all He knows that it would be foolish
for him to count upon living so long. No, he's out,
And yet it is a little amusing to find that the man
who protests that Mr.. Tilden has little or nothing
TO do with politics has probably just been to see
HIM ON political errand. There Is no doubt tnac
his counsel is frequently sought by the leaders OF
the faction which still calls itself by his name lie
has become truly the sage of the party but TO all
appearances he is little more. Either because MS re
tirement has deprived the anti-Tden faction OF any
reason for being or because his pupils and eutenT
ants the present leaders of tho majority, have
learned his methods but probably for both reasonsi
the party seems better united outside of New-York
than at any previous time since Tiden was elected
Governor There seems to have been practically no
division in the party Throughout the State IN the
caucuses delegates both sides as they used 10
exist say that the old divisions OF Illden and ant-
Tden did not show themselves at all In the sciec-
ton of delegates. Such differences as aro'o
were personal none were factionai. There were
no spits and there are no contested seats, 50 far 40
heard FROM outside of ofNow-York
CONFIDENCE OF CARRYING THE STATE
THIS view of the condition of the party rose-col-
l. saa lu hnr
the condition of things here at Albany If there is
a minority outside of Tammany it is invisible to tho
naked eve. 1t has no headquarters and no candi-
dates. Estimates of the number of former anti-Th-
den men who have been elected TO this Convention
vary from forty to sixty, out OF the whole SSf.
Some believe that there will be no vote
showing such division. III there / one 1t VIII 20
upon the question of admitting Tammany' ana
p,or showing like this would do Tammany more
harm tnan good. The Convention Is In thus respect
n singular body. As it appears thus lar, IL Is
heterogeneous mass without factional divisions
and TO a large extent. without candidates There
are hosts of aspirauts. but much larger proportion
of the delegates than usual is unattached. Like
the New-York County Democracy, they have no
candidates Such divisions as there are among inc
delegates are chiefly over local candidates. Oh "hoi
there are 80 many that the canvass OF no one on
tho,, ottract marked attention 1t does not follow,
either that this is because of lack of interest Ihe
average delegate and politician here seems really
Confident that the Democracy win carry the State
tbis fall. The apparent foundation Of their conh'
Gano. l. a curons one They say they do not believe
that ,ha so-called Stalwsrt Republicans VIII
sarnestIv support the Republican State ticket and
are strangely blind TO the necessity under whion
sbese Republicans rest of helping to carry the stata
in order that it may not go against the Repubhcaa
party within the first two months oil the AZ
minlstratioa OF President Arthur. as wen o. os
49,. H. tr,,tb of their familiar assertion that