The National tribune., 1881-12-03

had taken, and spoke to me; did not know
him; he handed me copy of his speech entitled
Garfield against Hancock, and requested me to
read it; which l promised to do when l had
| leisure; the prisoner, after informing me that
that was the speech that elected Garfield, spoke
of his application for the Paris consulship and
said Blaine would appoint him if 1 would indorse
his application; he claimed to know me and said
that [ was under obligations to assist him; he
said he lived in Freeport but told me very little
about his experience in Chicago; declined to
indorse him because l did not know him; before
leaving he presented his application for my sig
nature, which | refused; he did not remain long,
as l cut the interview short, desiring to get rid
ofhim; his clothing very light for the season;
| they were much worn; he had on his feet what
appeared to be, sandals, and was without hat ::
there was snow ON the ground that day. the
prisoner called again in few days and reiterated
his request for my Endorsement, which declined
again; he claimed that | was his Senator, and it
was my duty to assist him in order to get rid of
him. promised him that the next time / saw the
Secretary of State l would mention his case to
him; L intended to mention it, however, in
manner opposite to the wishes of the prisoner; |
did not think that his manner indicated disar-
| rangement of the mind the next time saw the
prisoner he sitting at a table in the dining
room of the house where | boarded; did not
know that he boarded there asked the land
lady If she knew him, and told her that if she
did not she had better get rid of him. as thought
he was a little off or crazy
Cross-examined: GuiteaH visited witness along
| about the middle of March.
George ID. Hubbard, farmer, of Oneida county,
New York, testified that he resided about half a
mile from the Oneida Community: some wears
ago was employed in the trap factory of the
Community; Guiteau worked there at the time:
Guiteau often talked with witness; the prisoner
frequently expressed his aspirations to become
leader He was nervous, excitable, and gesticu-
lated wildly when talking; sometimes he was
mOrOse, and at other times cheerful. He was not
always accurate. He often got his work mixed
up.
CrOSs-examined: Witness lived with his father
and worked by the day for the Community; was
not member of the Community; Guiteau came
to witness once and said he wanted to leave-to
steal away; he applied to witness to assist him
to escape; it was not absolutely necessary for
Guiteau to leave in surreptitiOus manner but
Guiteau chose that method to avoid criticism.
Redirect: Witness did have an aunt who was
a member of the Community his father took her
away; found her hid in a cellar and insane from
the effects Of a terrible cowhiding she had re-
ceived she was sent to private asylum and re-
covered her reason in about year
Edmund M. Smith. of Chicago, testified that
during the last Presidential campaign he was a
clerk at the headquarters of the Republican Ma
tiOnal Committee, New York city; first met the
prisoner there; Guiteau wanted to be placed on
the rolls to make campaign speeches; the CONVEX
sation of Guiteau was Eighty; witness did not
believe he could put half a dozen sentences to-
gether p0intedly; did not think he ever got any
appointment to speak.
Guiteau (dsgustedly )-"This man was not in
position to know. He was only clerk"
Cross examined: Witness had charge of dis
tributing all the documents and, he added, with
a smile, 1--WE paid honest postage all along"
The deposition of the Dakota witness John W.
Turner, was read next by Mr. Scoyille, in order to
strengthen the claim OF insanity among the pris-
Oners ancestors.
John A. Moss colored, was next called. Wit
ness resided in the county of Washington, Dis
trct of Columbia; last March, April and May
particularly the latter month, saw the prisoner
number of times at the Executive Mansion;
was attracted especially by his peculiar conduct;
witness thought that the prisoner was crazy; hiss
only reason for such an impression was because
the prisoner looked like crazy people look
Cross examined: Was admitted to this bar in
April, 1878; practicing all that he cOnld get
to do; he was also magistrate; could not say
how often he had met the prisoner, some fifteen
or twenty times; he was not employed officially
at the Executive Mansion; was there looking
after office
"You and he were in the same crowd sug-
gested Mr.. Davidge
mot exactly. He was in the crazy crowd"
answered the witness.
"What was you there for?"
u was there to tell what happened to me in
the campaign
"Well, tell us what happened them"
II was employed in the Congressional Library,
and had picture of Garfield on my desk; one of
the clerks took it; we had words and fuss, and |
I was discharged; wanted to tell the President
of the circumstances"
odd it take fifteen or twenty calls to tell |
that?"
II sentm card to the President each time,
and he sent it out again" Laughter.
81 got in once" the witness added.
'!Atter fifteen or twenty trials"
Yes, sir"
The witness did not 60 to the Mansion every
time to see the President, but most of the time |
to see the private secretary, who sympathized |
with him. and he believed that it would have |
turned out all right if the President had lived; |
he never spoke to the prisoner nor heard him ut
ter a word or saw him speak to any one. |
"What made you think that the prisoner was |
crazy" asked Mr.. Davidge. " How did he look 2"
"Ife looked just about the same as he does now |
Laughter except that he used to carry a bundle |
of papers under his arm"
Mrs. Frances NJ. ScOville, wife of counsel for |
the defense, was the next witness; Luther W. |
Guiteau and Julia Guitehu were her parents |
the prisoner was her brother. This witness gave |
in more detailed manner, the facts concerning !
the life and death of her parents especially with |
regard to their insanity cOrrObOrative of previous
witnesses. With reference to the prisoner she |
said He was a very precOciOus boy; witness |
raiterated the Ped lOuu Old TucEert |