Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1880-07-28


Ave can't tell now it seems very i'm
probable that We can stop over. | must be in
Salt Lake August 7th. go north from there
to the Yellowstone country. I have just
come from the Pyramid Lake Reservation.
Q.-How did you find matters there, if it
is not state secret?
Avery satisfactory. The Piutes there
cannot do SO well as they might, because of
the lack of agricultural land They are en-
ployed largely by the whites, and seem to be
contented. These people are quite scattered,
| and find employment at different points.
The whites say they would not fer anything,
hardly, be deprived of the Indians as hired
laborers, and seem to be satisfied with them.
Q.-Referring again to the campaign, Mr..
| Schurz, what is your opinion of the whole
outlook for the Republicans
| Avery promising, very hopeful. The
| conservative business people are going for
Garfield think All the factions we must
expect to go to the Democracy.
| Q.-But the Greenbackers = are they
counted as of effect in the campaign as q
party, and viii their vote make matters
doubtful in any State?
| A.-The Greenback party we in the East
do not count in the fight as being liable to
produce any effect.
| Q.-Is there any alarm among the business
men of the East at the possibility of a change
| from one party to the other in power?
Al can't say as to that. The campaign
is not sufficiently opened yet to tell what the
! feeling may be fully among that class; but to
the conservative business element, which l
believe is coming to the support of the party,
we must appeal. As / said in my remarks at
indianapolis, to the business man, the manu-
| fscturer, the farmer, the question is, where
does their safety reside-in which party !?
| nd / sold tharo I apst hat tbara IL
to induce them to leave the path of safety for
an uncertsin one. By the way, have you seen
Secretary Thompson?
A.-No, sir. He went to Mare Island yes
terday. He is expected to speak in this
State. President Hayes is to visit California
this fall, you know?
Q.-When? Is it settled as to date?
Am September. 1t is understood to be
settled that he will attend the State Fair as
the guest of the State Agricultural Society.
Let me ask you once more as to Indiana,
what is it gives the Republicans such hope
there?
|. AIR. English is not popular there, the
Greenback nominee for Governor is unpopu-
lar the decision of the Supreme Court has
disguised great numbers and will hurt the
Democratic party. The Republicans are do
ing good work and men are thinking, and so
the outlook encourages the Republicans
greatly.
Q.-I would like to ask you other specific
questions as to other States
Al have told you all | have personal
knowledge Of l have told you how the
prospect seems to me. / have no definite
information further, or l would give it to
you. l don't care to have you write down
any more I've set out in the speech pub
lished in the RECORD U MON my views as to
the campaign and fully.
FURTHER CONVERSATION.
At this point dinner was announced for the
party, the conversation came to close, and
the visitor retired. In the above report the
language of Mr.. Schurz has been condensed,
but for convenience the questions and an
swers have been preserved in the first person.
Mr. Schurz was not inclined to express him
self positively as political prophet, and
plainly indicated that he did not set himself
up in that capacity, and that he regards
the possibilities of the future as alto
gether too uncertain In politics for
any one, however settled in his own opinions
and beliefs, to make expression of them in
manner to lead others to rely upon them. He
frequently said that the Independent voter
must decide the election, and to his thorough
conviction as to what he should do Republi
cans should address themselves. As to the
bloody shirt business, its elimination from
the campaign he second time referred, say
ing that there was no need to shake it for
straight Republicans, and Democrats no one
expected to influence by it, and it was there
fore of no effect, and had not been for years
in politics. He inquired warmly concerning
Senator Booth, expressed his high esteem for
ex-senator Casserly, and said he wished to
meet him. He asked after Captain Eads,
ard hoped to meet him also. After dinner
the representative of the REcoRD-UNI
again called on Mr.. Schurz. Political topics
were resumed, the same grounds, in part,
gone over again, the Secretary saying he had
nothing to add to what he had said and what
he had set forth in his speech. He thought
this oughtto be campaign of reason entirely,
and if it was he had little if any doubt as to
the result. He was much interested in the
low lands, as the American river was APP
preached, AMI listened with deep interest to
the story of the filling up of the river and the
obliteration OF its old banks.
He was surprised at the extent of the de-
posits, and had no idea they were so great or
destructive as stated.
You should go up the Yuba, Feather and
Bear rivers and see the effects there"
II should like to. | saw where, up about
Dutch Flat, the hills had been washed
down."
but that is not circumstance to other
WORKS you can easily FIolG.
what is being done about it,"
"The engineers hope to build dams to
restrain the heavier debris"
What will become of the lighter sedi-
ment 20
1t will continue to come down"
g How do your people benefit, then ,"
1.-The engineers expect to increase the ca
pacity of the river so that it will carry the
sediment"
"Ah, yes, see; and sweep it down into
San Francisco bay"
81 suppose 50 or out to sea-"
1t is great question, and your city is,
you say, part of the year below the surface
level of the waters in the rivers ,"
cit is. Remove this trouble, and you will
see what city Sacramento will be"
.'Ah, yes; l see Look at those delightful
broad avenues, my daughters. What shade.
What handsome avenues What is the pop
ulation of Sacramento. sir? 2"
1--WE claim about "a coo or %, coo as our
actual and suburban population. Don't you
think, Mr.. Secretary, that the Government
ought to preserve this Sacramento river, the
chief navigable stream Of this State?"
Isn't it a natural highway, an inherit
aace Of the people,"
Certainly"
Shouldn't the Government prevent its
obliteration, think you, and save this inherit
ance to the people, and keep the stream nav
igable ?"
=. Well, but you people of California have
permitted this destruction to go on and -"
just at this point the train stopped in the
depot and great crowd Of people came up
to the car. The Secretary came upon the
platform and was introduced to Secretary of
State Burns, Attorney General Hart, State
Treasurer Wiel, Controller of State Kenfeld,
Surveyor General Shaaklin, Adjutant Gen
eral Backus, Messrs. Blanchard, Hornblower,
Fritz Post and very many others. He came
down on the walkway, was surrounded by the
crowd, was introduced to many and mani
Tested a lively pleasure IN meeting Sacra-
mentans. He conversed with the gentlemen
about him for half an hour, the crowd listening
attentively, and iIr. Schurz expressing him
self on political matters in response to III
quiry much as above reported. He was
urged to name a day when he would speak
here, but declined to do so, and said that it
was hardly probable he would stop over on
his return trip. As the bell rang, he bade all
about him, hearty good-by, and entered the
car, while the crowd including not few
red hot Democrats, who had listened on the
outer edges of the crowd to the conversation,
voted Carl Schurz "a companionable man
and well met, not a bit set up, and shrewd
and wise observer" Many gave voice to this
expression.
Mr.. Schurzis very tall. His form is thin, up
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