Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1880-11-12
explained everything, even got me Truth pa
per SO could see the letter. Birmingham got

me that SO that ] could see il
and study it. Coming on asked if
there was any trial about this affair.
He said, "No, not ALL" Then I said, 81 can't
be hurt muOh; will CO." When we arrived
we stopped at some office, I think the Times
or Tribune first. We went in cab and went
from there to the Truth Office. There l was
introduced as Lindsay. saw there Mr.. Hart,
and man by the name of Byrne. Walton
then walked out and he and Hart had some
private conversation. When Hart came in he
said, "Walton has told me all about it; nm
derstand it." When We were leaving Gum.
berland Birmingham held out his hand and
said to me, Good bye. Harry" and looked up
into Walton's face as much as to say. II know
all about it. Coming on the traiu said to
Walton. "Who is to pay you this money!"
He said the Truth will pay You, through me.
80 after We arrived there they examined me.
"Who examined you?" First, Post. This
Birmingham told me to make up story about
the workingmen's union, saying, THAT is
what you represent and that is all you have got
to do" and when I got on the stand told
them about the mines. After that went to
supper. Before I went to supper. Hart
said, "Hsve you got any changer!
l said, no. He said, Here, you had
better take this" and gave me ten dollars.
he first offered me five dollars. The next day,
being Sunday, / said wanted to get clean
shirt, and then he gave me ten dollars. We
went to supper and man went with me.
They call him BOX" His name ia Allen.
We went with him to supper and he never left
me while We have been here. He slept with
me and never let me go out OF his sight.
When we came from supper Hart said to Box,
theater," and told some man there
to write letter. Who the manSwas
don't know. have only seen him once and
that letter was given to Box. and we went to
Pastors and he offered the letter at the theatre.
We received two tickets and went in. Hart
told me to come back soon, that he would want
to see me. We came back after the first part
of the variety, before the last drama or what
ever it was. ard then I was cross-questioned
by Lowe about mines and he said that would
do. He said, ''that is all you will have to
swear to-"
''How many times have you been at
Truth Officer" have been there
all the time, I might as we'll say. except to go
to the theater or meals, or to hotel to 60 to
not Lindsay" He said, walton knows your
name. He heard it there In Cumberland"
"This Walton said that you were going to
get this money through the TRUTH" When
made the statement In court that my name was
Lindsay knew it was not true. Hart told
me that Walton told him all about this. He
said 81 will pay you, and, damn 1t, will pay
me if kne " where Main street was, in Lynn.
said no, I knew where the main street and
postofice was, and Hart said, That is just the
way for you to answer in court" Post said,
to me, IF they ask you any questions don't
have any hesitation in answering them about
this secret organization, but tell them you are
bound by oath not to divulge any secrets. If
they ask you any questions answer them right
up openly Hart said, 81 suppose they will
bring Garfield and put him on the stand" and
Howe said, Il wish they would" When I
came did not understand that I would have
to do any swearing at all. If had known
that would not have come. I was out of
work and did not have any money;
Hart asked me how would
like to have a Job in New York. I
told him would like it very much. "He said,
"Well, we won't say anything about that until
this is over" never lived in Cumberland
and do not know William b. Thompson.
Walton said he came from Truth office, and
there is where he brought me.
@. who told you the story which you
were to tell?' A. Walton told me to make
up one of my own, and they got me a paper in
Cumberland to study this letter which was
published and told me to make 1t up, and
Birmingham told me to say thst belonged to
Workingmen's unien.
@. "Who told you it was necessary to say,
among other things, that you belonged to
Lynn, Mass e.. a. NO one, only from tne
affidavit l saw printed in the papers. They
told me to swear to this affidavit that was made
out. 1 think that it was the man Walton ask
ed me that. The first time saw the affidavit
was after leaving Cumberland in the cars.
never was in Lynn; never saw person by the
name of q. L.. Morey. never saw the original of
the Morey letter until it was shown 10 me
in court. Never heard of the Morey-Gar6eld
letter until I saw printed copy. I think
Howe asked me If 1 made the Lindsay affidavit
and said yes, but did not make it and did
not kaow who did. (Signed)
JAMES O'BRIEN.
Taken before me on this 10Th day of Novem-