Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1880-02-10

side OF this body than you have to discuss what has
been said at some political meetng-that We are
sent here Tor the purpose of attending to the busi
ness OF the State and not to make capital for any
political party.
MIR. CoRcoRAN-Wi the Chair permit me to ask
question?
The sPEAKER-No, sir; the Chair rules the whole
matter Of order.
Mr.. CoRcoRAs-I appeal from the decision OF the
Chair
Mr. BRAUSHART-Is second the appeal.
The SPEAkER-The gentleman from San Francisco,
SIT. Braunhart Appeals from the ruling of the
Chair.
Mr.. BRAUNnARr-I did not appeal Mr.. Corcoran
appealed Please state the question correctly.
The SPEARER-You viii address the Chair in re-
spectfnl manner, sir.
Mr.. BR4UNHART-i intended no disrespect to the
Chair
The SPEAKER-The Chair made mistake in call
ing the name OF the gentleman taking the appeal,
and you knew it very well, sir. Now, a question Of
privilege under the rule, is this: Under Rule 43
any member may rise and explain matter personal
10 himself with leave OF the Chair. IL is matter
left entirely with the Chair. The question is, Shall
the decision Of the Chair stand the decision OF the
houseg
Mr.. CoRcoaAS-Mr. Speaker | believe it is a
principle OF parliamentary law, old the law it
self, that when person, or number of persons,
are attacked in any public journal, by any indi-
ydual, upon the floor legislative hail. that he
has q perfect right to reply; that thev have a
perfect right, when their actions are impugned, or
when false motives are attributed to them, to rise
and defend themselves. Now these gentlemen have
been grossly attacked
The SPEAKER The gentleman is out of order.
You have no right to discuss any matter outside Of
this body. The questi now is as 10 your right to
do it. Corfine yourself to this question. You have
right to discuss what has been said in private
caucus.
Mr.. CoRcoRAs-I said there had been published in
the papers
The SrEAKER-The same objection applies. It is
what said outside of this hall YolI lv tn
any thing that has been said in debate.
Mr. CoRcoRAS-We have been called OBJ
The SpEAKER--h the gentleman cannot confne
himself to the question. without referring to what
has been said, and what he has been called, he will
take his seat.
Mr. CoRCoRAN-If the Chair will jot down what 1
have right to speak to, VIII try and do it,
The SPEAKER-You will confne Yourself to the
question as to whether, under parliamentary law,
member has the right to defend himself against
what has been said in any political meeting outside
Of the Legislature.
Mr.. CoRcoRAN-Then l will put hypothetical
The SPEAKER-No sir, you will not put any hypo-
thetca case at ALL The question is of pure par
liamenJary law
Mr.. CoRcoRAN-T Take it then upon pure priDci-
pie OF law. You are lawyer sir, and you know the
principles of law and you know that it is laid down
as principle in the law of libel, that although
names are mention ed, and the author known, and
1t can be proven to refer to particular person, he
has right of action in the Courts.
The SPEAKER--ln the Courts, but not here.
Mr.. CoRcoRAN-The question is, have we a right
an ,ant;ras ha,a -, ;.,S We .iSt nv,
faisahoods 'ee" Ne'' ~ i'P'' W ''0''
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himself to the question he will take his seat He is
sI wa'av mas oeeh saiu outsue ol t''is poGy
right
The SPEAKER-I rule that you have not.
MIR. CoRCoRAN-I ask the House if have not that
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how disaoreeahIe !, noo,, he y, tha SaaLa .; AZ;
Honsa IL may oe " 'ne speaker oi 'nS
The Spp,rrp framing 1ordl,, Tho aa,+ror,ar
will take his seat rule that YOU are ipsstinS tbe
Chalr The gentleman imputes to the Chair inter
ested motves. Ihe gentleman has lnsuited the
@ - u ~; ~ .; st.''r ny ~. " ,,; Gu ~ sl0N any
Oae on 's me y, ~, onair SO rules Your
Mr. CoRcoRAS-Let me EXPLAIN
The SPEAKER-No sir no explanation from YOU
Take your seat
Mr. CoRCoRAN-I ask to have the language taken
down.
The SPEAKER-The Chair proposes to enforce the
rulings. The gentleman attributes to the Chair that
it is disaqreeable to him to hear this matter. The
Chair says that it is an insult to the Chair. The
question is on sustaining the decision Of the Chair
on the second appeal by Mr.. Corcoran.
The ayes and noes were demanded by Messrs.
Braunhart, Corcoran and Maybell.
During the calling f the roll Mr.. CoRcoRAS SAID
insist that Mr.. Garibad shall vote.
The SPEAKEg-1ake your chair, sir. VIII the Ser
geant. at arms come in here: 1 will have use for
him directly
The decision of the Chair was sustained by the
following vote:
Ayes-Anthony, Bass, Bennett, Braunhart. Brown
of Sonoma Brown of Yuba, Bruncr,, Camron
Chamberlain Chandler Coleman, Del Vale, Di-
mond, Downs DuBruiz, Estee, Fina7 son, Fox,
Frink, Garibaldi, Gorley, Green, Hardy, Hershy,
Hynes Leach, Leadbetter, McCarty of Lake, Me
Comas McIutosh Merry Messenger, Morse, Null
holland Nelson, Sayle, Spencer, Stanley Stoddard,
Streeter, Sweetland Ward, Wason OF Ventura,
Wasson of Mono, Watson, York, Young-4G.
Noe5-Burns, Carr of fu0a, Cooper, Cuthbert,
S,.H2ii sIylt+t, Sar Ei,cisa' SIaloja'
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