New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1880-03-18
INDIAN CITIZENSHIP.
THE sEyERALTY PLAN DISCUSSED.
ITS DIFFICULTIES AND ITS ADvANTAGgs-vIEws o.
GENERAL CLINTON D. FISK

ITS DIFFICULTIES AND ITS ADvANTAGEs-YIEws OF
| GENERAL CLINTON D. FISK
| The following Is q summary of q talk held
yesterday by TRIBUNE representative with General
Clinton B. FISK, OF the Board Of Indian Commissioners.
in relation TO the arrangement for giving the Utes lands
severay and OF applying the same plan to the other
| reservation tribes
Tho arrangement with the Utes." said General
Fisk "is based upon the right principle, and the
which ought long ago to have been adopted In our
dealings with the Indians. think, however, the Score
tary drove rather hard bargain with Ouray. There is
too much white and too little Indian in the treaty.
stl, it is the beginning Of in our relations 10
the tribes and feel greatly pleased that the negota
| lions successfully concluded.
"OuIay msy say, without meaning any disrespect to
Congress- is an ADLER man than many members OF that
| body. l know him well. His wife is very bright
woman. He appealed to Board some time ago to
help him recover their only child, who stolen by the
ArrapahOes twenty years The boy was only four
years old the time, but the parents have not got
their grief at his loss and think they should recog
nize him II he could be found. When last saw
Ouray in Washington he took up a child that was with
our party and said II this child should be stolen from
you you would the whole Army OF the United states
to rccovert Can't YOU help me get back my boy Z"
"Is there any reason" General Fisk WAS asked,
why the plan accepted by the Ues of giving up their
reservation and taking land in seyeralty should not
soon be applied to other tribes 2"
None whatever IL could be applied at once, be-
lieye 10 all the reservation Indians in Oregon and
Washington Territory. Some Of these tribes,
and notably the Yakamus have already
reached q settled civilized condition. They have
expressed n desire TO divide their lands, and
though their treaties provide for patents
10 individuals they have never been able 10 get this
provision executed Then there the Navaioes, who
make the fine blankets which you probably seem"
continued General Fisk opening map upon
which all the reservations shown. "They
have this big territory you here New-Mexico and
Arizona south OF tho old Ute Reservation. have no
doubt their could be obtained at TO a fair
arrangement for IN allotment OF portion their lands
and the sale Of the remainder"
what = the condition of the sioux Roser-
walton n Dakota which appears the map to be almost
as big as tho state OF OhoT
tits n regular treaty reservation, and not set
apart by executive order It exist very long
IA barrier to all settlement In stretch
Of hundreds OF miles OF country on both sides Of the
Upper Missouri but we viii have with the Sioux
and persuade them to consent to break It up, or else
violate our solemn contract with them"
what can be- done with the Indian Territory
Evidently s millions Of fertile acres cannot always
bo withhold from cultivation furnish hunting grounds
TO few juou-and Indians"
"The problem OF breaking up the reservation IN the
Territory IS much diGcut, from The fact that the
five uircs occupying 10 hold regular United States
patents 10 thc land when these patents were issued.
tlc Indians said they dd NOT quite understand the
On thcm-thcy were not quito certain how
was. So they had changed for ,he phr4sc " IA ong
grass grows and water runs" They knew what
cannot be lept sacred To the Indians. ana
All white settlements kept out as long A. grass
mat miles. some arrangements made Tor selling The
hnds which the Indians 40 not n-e. ny will be seized
realize hs danger. and think thew wond now be pre-
pared Tor c"anSo In"t |oga give mem ,iIns
land grants across the Territory. The Missouri
north south The projected line Of the Atlantic
and Pacno from east To vest Hese grants pro
tnguishing rhr Title or the Indians 10 inc lands
wtu the consent however az t1r ludHus Themselves.
The Indians Tint % abe Territory were once opened
% settlement The railroad companies won take posses
ret NO compensation for them"
Have ou any plan ia view for getting over this diff
Tae railroads must DE made 10 surrender their claims
believe they have forfeited them already nut their
grants oIngenou'y drawn that the word iorietdocs
notoccurin them The Indians would then readily como
Oh terms have travelled All over their cOu try ana
know how they ioos AZ tno question. I"enty
nIe or thiry mrn OF -, decided fr,qd,eed. ARMY Ttntyy
uuocrsinnd tho situation ns wen ~ we 90.
Iuey know that the present status OF tie
ana n tbfir .oe sre mpor safe fom any infringement
of taeir rights tucy uiI be ready to meet us in @
T,o P 1''F coa,a ra a al' 6g a S.' :.
uJcr HHotnug l'ris 70 individuals o,d
nt tlr Government price OF FL % an ctc nl Invest lc
money for e pen,tI Ui Oboe true In Iuifn' ate- pHr
cent bonds Interest tu Doe used for schoul-1ud f0rOhrr
mean. uf vlucug tne Indians ln cyI,l uou 10 ,his
pIlu should boo cnrucl uut Tine member. nf the nve
frs4 wound fi,u.r tuau Che average New
En.IHnl, tr.-IIr. Hui l.1u- Y.Nuult'
HE nry grue q system been proposed for hre1kug
up taa =, seryA ions outside tlt IuGiau i frfOH ~
w.; Hll pending iu tNr House, introduced
bv Mr ~caIes. les main features wrre understand,
suggested hy Mr. Lincoln, tue boston gentleman
who ms taken such an interest ln the
TYura-. Here is copy lou VIA observe
tuaf 10 provides that ihD Indians shall nor ALLEVIATE
their -craI.fo buildings, aud shall not ne deprived ~
tlsu br Huy judgment ol tne court FOR twenty-five
years. Tho consent 81 twO-hirds % The adult male
members OF The Tribe required for putting The system
into operation"
d" Do you feel counicn, that the Indians can be civil
H. .d hy this new systomt
"Ih-y can be- put way OF cyilzng themselves |
each reservation ppOrhousc, feeding the Indians ike
pdup.fs. denying them tue opportunity OF acluir |
ing property aud refusing them the ~ -hts |
of cltiIri Is, certain method or peUc'u1g tuelr
bTb.rsfn 10 argument for keeping mp this vicious
system chat they Ot Do % exercise the rights
OF cuzousnip There hundred thousand |
people hvmg Ia This city between me |
Battery and UniOu-squarc who are not much |
better fitted 90 exercise those rights wisely. II We |
should take away from these people the right To sue IN
laws. shond soon nave condition Of bIrbarism here
~ Eew-Yogk that would cause you aud To pack our
catpet-bdgs and 10 Jersey some other place OF
safety. GIVE the Indian the protection oi the same
law mat apply 10 white men, and The Same rights ELI
ioyed bt white men, ana Ire VIII nave fdr chauce TO
work out his salvation
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