, 1880-05-30
EX-GOV. GLEAVE4

I EN-GOV. GLEAVES,
of South Carolina, was among the Other,
who were seen~ lie had come here in ad,
vance Of his delegation, and substantially IN.
structed for Grant, but having been hpra
several days his views were changed. Hi
position when he came here, and that upon
which his State had acted, was that tha
| North was solid for Grant, but stay in tha
| city Of a few days had satisfied him to tha
contrary, and he was opposed to Grant BE-.
| cause he did nob believe that the party conra
win with him. From this the eonYersaton
went on about as follows:
Hoy many Southern States can Grant
None"
"uow many can any other candidate car.
"None.''
;n ~Whet VI Gr,ga was your hope, then, in instruct
aIt was that he was solid at the North and
that with solid vote we might be able to
elect some Congressman, and strengthen tie
party, locally, III the South by carrying coun-
ty elections ETC."
You have no such opinion now?"
Mn! N!o, ;;3,. SIT; f9r my experience Is that ths
nominated he will not only fall in carryine r
any Of the Southern States, but he viii iosa
some OF the Republican States in the North.
Whicl >, would wipe out the party in tha
"Do You mean to be understood to .av
State?"
Gratis IN Congress have wiped ont every
CHANGE OF our having fair election; and, b.
f,de the South osia IN the charge q the
our majority was ever so great
stThen you do not want Grant in vtew NJ
your experience?"
Individually do not want him, because
feq5 E q m that +, his nomination would burst US"
swell, we do not expect to do anything
toward electing a President, and have not
thought Of such thing. What we are after
is our local affairs. We want to elect some
Congressman and change the composition Of
Congress, if possible"
you want%' "A' w
- We have no choice, but want the success
OF the party, and to get this some one must
Be 6eo1 nominated q who can carry the Northern
.'Can't Grant carry them e''
II think not. I find that the people are
opposed to him, and outside Of the North We
have nothing to hope for"
You are satisfied, then, that the Repub-
licans cannot carry q Southern State g;
Beyond doubt, if Grant is the nominee /
!4S WI t.1u. oo AAA ~ Hui col!eelNeu, 10
appointed to ind hat hEs nun Stata ~ lsso 10
divided against lin 9'''' AA' '"" ''"'' - ~
- But the division you find may have some.
thing in the shape Of prejudice behind it -
= thought so at first, but am now satisfied
that such Is not the case. / find the busipe3
element against him, and around the citY
generally, the feeling is intense. There can
not be 50 much smoke without some fire, and
this Is Grants State"
What do you propose to do ?''
"quT delegates will arrive in day or twa
and shall advise them OF what have dis
covered"
. viii you advise them to support Grauts'
we were mistaken. a,ui 7 an eatiskad that
the 2;s North IS /: against him. ' ''
=, :" do not know. We all want success and
elect their man, tie South MI must 'ls 20 under. under:
We want a man upon whom you are united,
Ing purely local. and our Ejrctnr,i rntsbaIne
sure to be cast for the Democratic nominee"
j. The talk was continued for some time, aud
the Ex-Governor saiu great deal In addition,
and succeeded in drawing q crowd around
fln which reIterated lis sentiments. In
TACT, q vote was taken Of the asse,lblage,
md out Of the fifty or more, all Republicans,
here were only two who held up their hands
. vote for Grant In the event OF bis nomlua-
ion.
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Bravton ~. forne1 WY w. inte1awed Tlne Hu I
@They are M instructeI ] for t9r Grant" it."sA'''
BUT ara the instructions binding. Waeh
ne = p.EGse Isso!utloh WIS lald o4 me Ea2leS