Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1880-12-15

The yeas and nays were demanded, with this
result: Yeas, Senators Dana, Gleason, North,
Paul, Peck, Start and woodhouse-7 nays,
Senators Bodgett, Bridgman Brown, Darling,
Dillingham;, Dsinell, Field, Fuller, Gieed, Good,
sell, Henry, Judeyine, King Lane, Pember, Rob
inson, Stafford, Sykes, Thatcher, Weed, Wood
worth-2l, and so the amendment was lost.
Senator START further proposed TO amend 10
that there be added after the word "frm in the
last line Of section 3 Of the bill the words,
debts 30 owing and stated shall be deducted
from the appraised value OF such person real and
personal estate" Upon this question the yeas
and nays were as follows: Yeas Senators Field
Goodsell, Lane Paul and Start; nays, Senators
Blodgett, Bridgman, Brown, Dana, Darling, Dwi-
nell Fuller, Gleed, Henry Judeyine, King Peck,
Pember Stafford, Sykes, woodhouse and Wood
worth; yeas, 8; nays, II; and so the amendment
was lost. .r % d.
Senator DANA proposed to amend by striking
out the words, and no deduction shall be made
In the list of any person by reason OF debts owing
by him, unless such statement includes the name
and place Of residence Of each person OF firm TO
whom he Is so indebted, and the amount 30
owing by him TO each person or firm" Senator
Dana advocated the amendment Senators Bridg-
man, Dwinell, Gleed and Woodwortb opposed II;
amendment lost --
Senator Stafford moved TO amend 20 that all
polls shall be set in the list at 81 each. Senator
Stafford said that he willing TO accept the bill
proposed by the committee on grand list. 40 far
as it affected the taxes upon property. He pro-
posed this amendment In the interest OF those.
polls were set in the list as though they were
worth 5000
Senator BRIDGMAN opposed the amendment
Senator Stafford withdrew this amendment
upon statement being made by Senator Dwinell
that the proposition contained in the amendment
was under consideration In the committee
grand List. Adjourned.
House-Forenoon.
In the absence OF the speaker the clerk called
the house to order; and Mr.. Dartt OF Weathers-
wa mr. fer
Mr.. Dartt thanked tie house for their courtesy In
electing him and said that he hoped Mr. Martin
would return during the forenoon.
Devotional exercises we're conducted by Rev
Mr.. Hamilton of Wilmington
On motion OF Mr. Fletcher OF Cavendish the
reading of the journal was dispensed with.
Collection Of td6es.-The committee on grand
list, By Mr. JONES' reported in favor Of 5. 26, an
act in relation to the collection of taxes, propos
log an amendment by adding new section as
follows. Sec. Amy village incorporated by
the laws of this state, any school district may
1ect its taxes In the manner provided in this
act, il it shall vote at the meeting at which the
| tax may be raised, and thereupon the duties
herein prescribed to be performed by the select
men, treasurers and collectors OF towns, shall be
| performed by the principal officers, treasurers
| and collectors Of such villages, or the prudential
| committees, treasurers and collectors OF such
school districts respectively"
| Mr.. THOMPSON of Irasburgh moved to strike
out from section one the provision which makes
| the bill apply only to towns of 1000 population.
| Mr.. BLAIR Of Barnet opposed the amendment,
saying he originally opposed to the bill, but
| AZ 1t would affect only "A few towns, and as these
few desired the BILL he had been induced TO favor
it. But il this bill applied TO all towns he should
oppose il ,,o,,.,
| we're good the small towns should have the same
| benefit as the large towns.
Mr. RANKIN Of Milton moved that the bill and
amendment lie and be printed.
Mr. PALMER OF Waterbury opposed the mo-
ton, and thought we could dispose of it as well
| now as ever.
Mr. ALLEN of Hinesburgh favored the bill
Mr. HASKELL of Grafton hoped that the bill
| would not be ordered to lie
The motion to lie was then lost. ...
By unanimous consent Mr. THOMPSON with
| drew his amendment
Mr.. ABELL of West Haven moved to amend
sec 6 by inserting the word sixty" in place Of
| thirty" so to require sixty days notice to
uon-residents to be given before warrant is is
sued.
Mr.. BATTELL of Middebury asked what the
merits OF the bill were
| Mr. JONES for the committee said they thought
it would bring about more efficient and econom-
| ical collection Of taxes
Mr.. COBB of Strafford moved to amend Sec
ton 80 as to except highway tax-bills
Mr.. CHAPLIN Of Middesex moved To amend the
amendment so as to except highway taxes pay
| able in labor.
Mr.. COBB objected to Mr. Chapin's amendment
because it was usually uncertain until after tax
|
labor
Mr. CHAPIN'S amendment was then lost and
Mr.. Cobb's amendment adopted.
Mr BROWN Of Grand Isle moved that the bill
be ordered to lie and be printed.
Mr FLETCHER of Cavendsh said he thought
II there was any danger of the bills passing, he
should oppose the motion to lie. He thought we
had no need of the bill.
| Mr. HOOKER Of Bratteboro thought 1t would
work an injustice to poor people II five per cent
additional was to be added if taxes be not paid by
a certain date.
Mr. WAIT explained that ninety days mean
ninety days after the tax was due
Mr. ALLEN of Hnesburgh moved to strike ou
the provision for five per cent additional, etc,
Mr.. Brown Withdrawing his motion TO lie for th'
purpose of enabling Mr.. Aliens motion to be putt
which was agreed to.
Mr.. FLETCHER moved to amend by striking
out all after the enacting clause.
Mr. FOWLER of Randolph inquired II the bill
had been amended so to make it apply to al
towns.
Mr. SPEAR of Braintree favored Mr. Fletcher
motion, and Mr.. Howe Of Ludlow and Mr.. Smitl
Of ST. Johnsbury opposed.
The amendment was then lost.
Mr.. THOMPSON proposed to amend section
four by striking out the words " The town trea
surer shall be allowed one-half OF one per cen
on all sums by the taxpayers to such treasurer,
and said that the compensation should be left
the discretion of the towns.
Mr. CHAPLIN of Middlesex spoke against thi
amendment. The amendment was adopted
| yeas l23, nays 81
The question now being, Shall the bill be reac
the third time? Mr.. WHITNEY OF FRANKLIN
thought we should dismiss " the bill by refusing
the third reading.
Mr. HOWE Of Ludlow thought the bill hat
been killed by the amendments
Mr. HARVEY of Topsham thought the amend
ments were good. and hoped the bill would pass
, Mr. THOMPSON explained his position in re
gard to the bill.
Mr.. BATTELL said there was lack OF knowl
Iait = vvha ha yi-iO n
Mr.. BUrTERFIELD moved that the bill be nov
, ordered to lie and be printed
The first section of the bill was then read b.
the chair.
Mr. BATTELL said he was satisfied and wa
|, willing to have the bill read the third time AM
let II 90 back to the senate to consider the amend
, ments.
Mr. PALMER OF Waterbury and Mr.. Hooker o
, Bnttleboro opposed the motion OF Mr.. Butter
field and II was then lost.
The fourth section OF the bill was then read b.
the chair
The third reading was then ordered for to-mor
row morning.
BRls pdssed-S li7 an act relating to recog
nizances in criminal prosecutions. ii. 80, an &C
In relation to telegraph companies.
The Middlebury court house.-H 252, an ac
providing for the erection Of q court house in tn
a county of Addison, and laying tax on sa
county was reported from the special committe
: by Mr. Kent, recommending the dismissal o
. Mr.. BATTELL of Middlebury, in behalf OF
= majority of the committee as he said, moved tina
| the report be recommitted.
Mr. SCRANTON opposed the motion and ez
planned the history Of the bill, saying that at tn
i first meeting before the recess sixteen out O
twenty three opposed the bill, bat at the requea
Q OF the minority the majority had agreed to wal
and see IL a bill could not be prepared that woul
= be satisfactory. After the recess majority Q
,; the committee, at meeting night before last
| were willing tospass bill for new court house
IL 1t could be submitted TO the tax payers but tn
d majority were not willing TO pass the bill unlessI
should be submitted to the tax payers. Mr., Scra1
ton spoke at length upon the situation and though
| IL strange that some members should In this shoI
e time have changed their minds
? Mr.. JAMES OF Weybridge said he was one o
= the sixteen against the bill at first, and was on
= OF the ten that voted for the amendment that b
| objected to the first on the ground that the
Q | would at subsequent sessions be asking for NOR
Q appropriations TO complete the building; tina
8 when they proposed To appropriate $4,000 an
/ parties agreed to bond themselves TO pay frou
1 their own pockets anything over that sum, h
: was in favor of 1t; that those opposed TO the bill
; | saw the need of new court house.
: Mr. SCRANTON asked who made the motio
0 10 have it left to the taxpayers Of the county
Q Mr. KENT said that Mr.. Scranton made 1t.
Mr. SCRANTON asked who opposed the motion
1t WAS replied that 1t came from the friends o
: the bill,
Mr.. SCRANTON said that was as he understoo
4 ii. Then followed some lively sparring betwee
: Mr. Scranton and Mr. Battell,
I Mr. TURNER of Dover said he thought Mi
2 Scrantons request was fair and thought the bill
should be dismissed
The motion TO recommit was lost and the ques
4 ton being shall the bill be read the third time