The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1880-11-09
SABBATH SERVICES.

OF Yechildren OF our God, etc.
n APOSTLE ORsoN PRATT said that A.
be UNDERWOOD 1t. the objec. OF preach
$40 ing was to do good, botn to the hear
. 30 ers and the speaker. Te bring forth
IS anything that was new would reouire
SO the spirit OF revelation. Without
that spirit it would be diff cult IN
ray bring forth anything new. The Lord
had said. speaking of this dav-
blessed are they that SEEK to brinS
ioTth bis ZION. The LAtier-csy Saint
had proven the truth of the Lords
promise. They bad been blessed bv
tue glft and power OF the HolT Gbost.
81 a person might have she gift of the
dolly Ghost. to ohser up the heart. 10
he comfort, ETC.. and If be has faith in
1od It will manifest itself in power
when 1t was neediul. The Latter day
% saints could not be in darkness con-
= corning the operation OF this power.
&c 1t impaired to some the power of
u revelation, ~ we'll OF the past as OF
the future. II was the gift of seeing.
q constituting the recipient q seer; il |
&c was also the gilt of prophecy. A
/ person might be = prophet, and vet
,, not be 9 seer. The Holy Ghost did
q not make all persons seers, nor pro-
phess, but It operated upon many 10
make them zee and interpret thiupa
OF the past, and to ioretell thines to
come. He has often thought of the
promiae. as gwen by the Lord, and .
also Of It a. voted to the president =.
OF the church, and others by the peo- :
pie. Do they rsslize tbs Importance
lot the gift? He bad Iometimes
thought they did not. They had re-
ioiced in the gift, but the speaker !;
would to God that be had more faith =
and conhdence to approach God, !,
that be could look into the past and c
the future. He feared that some :
we're not 90 faithful as they should be: =
that they were obstinate of heart, or =
they would have in q fuller degree. -
the PoWer and git OF prophecy. 1t =
did not always require the Urim and '"
ThummIm 10 ordsr TO be a seer or :,
to prophecy. Enoch was . seer and ~
prophet, and saw and prophesird % -
without those. Though Enoch Was ~
the first seer mentioned as such, but "
the speaker did not believe ne was p''
the first seer. He believed that so'
Adam, Abel. Enos and others Of the :"
patrisrchs were seeTs. holding the
keys of the everlasting priesthood,
and possessing power TO administer Jel
in the church of God; to see things Blu
that had past. and to prophecy as to nat
The future. There were many before
he food who were caught I'D as
Enooh Eas. They possessed the
obtained through the gift \
IT the Holy Ghost 1t did not re. sele
luire 10 the case OF Enoch the UriS OF
nd Thummim, his natural ewes gen
eing able to see all. The Urim and
'hummim we're txo crystal stones. o
es in the rims of bow. They were
things, and the stones might n
e the same as the crystals found est
] these mountains; but they had the O:
over Of God, which the crystals
Iund heFeabouts DO not possess
hey gave the power to see things
lat ordinarily the natural eye did not o
1ssess. 1t was not necessary for the Won,
ord to use crystals. II he thought l..
'oper he could use wood, or any -O-
her substance to Shine with ais ioi't
INT, ae tho crystals had done. It eide
ss not within the power OF all Man
use the Trim and Thum@im, for was
g reason that some would misuse WIS
eu. The Lord only permitted Their
ose 10 use them who knew how. tAiliI
hen and why to use them, and not ihe
use abe Eiit- The gilt Was one OF CAM
e greatest given to man in the state aWaj
mortality. The gift OF eternal life the {
Is the greatest TO msn. hut that was wsgC
the state OF Immortality. The Man
eaker had no idea that the Lord ousis
,uld bestoW theUrim and Thummim aboa
ION ell upon whom the people bad OF sic
ted to bestoW the seership, but be torch
] think that il they lived 80 they Tend
ould live, the Lord would so sAncsify near
pir eyes that they could see the brui,
sAt things of the past. and OF the could
iore. IDasmuch az the people had IAyi'
ted that the apostles have the gift mOel
seerehip, if they did not obtain it, broul
thought the fault must be with the will
ostles themselves, who did not eye
Ich out to God, snd get it. Elder fowl
att had not yet ksd faith TO zee the catiD
IT. Joseph Smith gas . seer. He Apprt
-sined the gift gradually. He st OF 1
It had to use the UIim A2d Thum- at FIR
%, but after be bad obtained hopeI
oHledRe of the gift he could see miIeC
hout the instruments. After be as
the Book OF Mormon be lnnfor
rendered the plates aud also the
im sna Thummim, but the gift of DC
ing teHMneo WIN nlm' the Game
. Z! AoI nSO GeH ~ nun spesk ~ tne Sets,
DslAted portion Of the Scriptures
bout the aid OF the Urim and Lui
nmmim. There we're some in the FLO
lrch who did not anderstand the PIci
erence between thOse who we're LAT
rs Eithout the use Of the Urim
Thummim. and those who needed
'se things. The speaker thought
vas the privilege OF the first pnesi- Mo
10y and the apostles to oe Seers by NJ
nOu' mss"E tn o. oiim suu tnu haze
i couId obtain II il thew Wonld live held
the way that it was necessary for durin
M to live. The Lord had ceased have
c time giving further revelation on Il
,ough the head of the church for they
} guidance OF the people, but the no u
ssident, apostles and all had the event
vilege OF obtaining revelation for ducte
smsekves. After the saints had whlcl
sn tried with the revelations that time
We alresdy been given, and il they first
)7ed faithful, then would they be Chur
ZEN other portions of Gods word. the
% greater things OF the Lord would msDl
made manifest. The same 'Urim ing q
dThummim that had been used by meet
: ancient Nephi!es, would come them
th, and be given to some one, how
obsbly the president of the church, guest
10 would translate the ancient pro- will !
ecies and will OF God into the Eng is ce
D language for the benefit OF the done
urch of God. When that time nuI
1uld come, the speaker could not and
: exactly. but it would be in the srout
= OF the righteousness Of the people. OF N
len sin aud Wickedness were done betor
Tsy. II one could cay when those prob;
mos Uould he accumulated then