Morning journal and courier., 1880-01-08
LOCAL NEWS.
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FcoNr1NUED FROM SECOND PAaE.l

time, know Benjamin Stevens and have known him a great many years. Was at Charles Stannard's house on the 9th of Sep tember, 1878. Went there with Mir. Tal- madge We got down there not far from o'clock When we first drove up did not see anybody but MT. Stevens. Charles Stannard came soon after we got there. He was out doors when first saw him.
 MT. Jones-Did you have any conversa- tion with Stevens?
 Al. We asked liberty to see the body. Stevens went in with us and showed us the wound on the head Think MT. Stevens and myself sat down in the front door way or on the steps.
 o. Did you have any conversation with MT. Stevens
 A. Yes, sir.
 Q. Will you state what that conversation was?
 A. Think inquired if they had found anything when she was murdered. Think he said they had found black oak stick about two feet long and large as his wrist. said that looks to me as though that was the stick she was knocked down with. He said there was blood and hair on the stick. l asked him who had the stick, and he said he had it, and at the proper timeit would be brought forward.
 o. He called it black oak stick?
 A. He did.
 Q. Have you any doubt about that conver- sation
 A. No, sir.
 Cross examination by MT. Waller.
 MT. Waller-You have never had any doubt about this conversation between you and MT. Stevens. have you?
 A. No, sir.
 o. You are little deaf, are you not?
 A. Yes, sir.
 was up in the woods the morning after the homicide and that he took black oak stick and stirred up the blood and that the decayed fibre on the stick looked like blood?
 A. No, sir. never heard 1t.
 Q.Doyou know whether MT. Talnadge heard Mr. Stevens tell this story2
 A. There is no reason why he should not have heard it.
 o. Did not Mr. Stevens say that the stick looked as though it had blood and hair on it A. He did not use the word looked" o. Did Mr. Stevens tell you where the stick was
 A. No, he only said he had it.
 0. Do you know Seth Crowell2
 A. Yes, sir.
 o. Did you not tell Mr. CroweI that Stew ems did not say anything about the stick hay ing blood and hair on 1t
 A. did not tell him any such thing.
 o. Did you ever tell Mir. Crowell that you were mistaken in your story?
 A. No, sir.
 something about the oyster supper that had not been told?
 A. I did not tell him any such thing
 o. Did you tell anybody at Madison about this club story?
 A. No, sir.
 o. When did you frat tell the club story :? A. On the 9th of September, 1878. told it to my wife.
 Redirect to MT. Jones. I know Seth Cro- well well. He has often bought of me.
 MT. Jones. Crowellis bitter enemy of MT. Hayden's, is he not?
 Objected to and withdrawn.
 Frederick Dowd was next called, and in re- ply to MT. Hubbard said that he met Benja- min Stevens soon after the homicide. l should judge it was about two weeks after. saw him over on the old road where the body was found. MT. Buell. and MT. Stannard were present. Stevens said at this time, that if he ever testified in this case again, he should tell very different story or 8 damned" different story from what he told in Madison. I met Stevens again on a Sun- day, think early in October. He was near Stannard's house. Stevens spoke to me and took me one side. He told me there that he was either going to tell Sheriff Hull or Sheriff Hart or myself, and guess "by God" I will .tel1 you. He said, there is woman over by the pond who will swear that she saw me going home that day and think the same woman will swear that she saw Hayden down here in the road the same day. But l don't know sure yet, for haven't seen her but I am going to see her and find out.
 T.. any, thing to you about being s'fulr' on Tuesday. A. I don't recollect that he did.
 Cross-exau,ination by Mir. Waller.
 MT. Waller-Did you hear Mir. Stevens tes- timony the other day?
 A. heard only part of it.
 o. Did Mir. Stevens mention who the wo- man was that lived over by the pond?
 A. I think he said it was Mrs. Ward, but cannot swear positively as to that.
 o, Was Sherman Buell. with you when this conversation occurred :?
 A. He was with me when the first conver- sation occurrtd d but not the last time. o Then he told you what you say he did about telling damned different story" did he?
 A. Yes, SIT, he said livery" or damned" !" don't know which.
 o. Did what that old man said give you an impression that if he was put on the stand again he would commit perjury?
 A. took it that if he testified again he would tell different story from what he told in Madison.
 oath that by what that old man said, he re- ally intended to commit perjury Answer yes or mol
 A. Then will say yes. o. Do you mean to say that that m an, sober and intelligent as you say he was, and knowing that you were an officer, that he inten ded to commit perjury if put upon the stand again?
 A. Yes, I do.
 Sherman Buell. was next called. He said he was with the last witness when he met MT. Stevens. Stevens said if he was called upon to testify again he should tell very different story.
 Cross-examnation by Mr. Waller
 MT. Waller. What were you doing out at Rockland that day?
 A. I went out with MT. Dowd officially, for the purpose of looking over the ground and to ses if any horses had been hitched in the vii cinity of the homicide.
 o. You are friendly with Benjamin Stew ens, s,are you not?
 A. don't know anything to the con trary. There is nothing in Benjamin Stew ems that has indicated that he is on bad terms with me.
 Q. Did Mir. Stevens tell you what you say he did confdentially?
 A. Yes sir.
 o. Did you understand from what he said that he had either committed perjury or was going to?
 A., inferred that from what he said. Manford A. Wilcox was next called. In re- ply to MT. Hubbard witness said he heard Benjamin Stevens testify at Madison. Stew ems testified there that he went out and talked with MT. Hayden on the day of the homicide. My impression is that he said he spoke with Hayden about the weather and about some lumber.
 recess was ordered at this point until 2 o'clock.
 AfternOOn-FnrGherC Contradictlng. Mr. Wilcox continued-Am brother of Au- gustus Wilcox. Ithink was present all the time at Madison when Benjamin Stevens was testifying did not make any notes of the testimony. Have looked at my brothers notes. I think recolIected that his (Stev- ensD testimony given here disagreed in some points from that which he gave at Madison, r zTa- a brother was the justice who tried the case at Madison.
 Mir. Waller-Now, sir, have you not said that you wouldn't swear you heard Benjamin Stevens say word about having talk about lumber (with Mr. Hayden) in his testimony at Madison? Objected to by Mir. Jones. EAd- mitted.] -A.-No, sir; I have not. I have an impression that he did testify so.