Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1880-10-06
The EVENING STAR.
~SbNESbAN... October d. 1850.
Grant and rraucec,x.
inh NisTAkkS or DR. FOWIER-aRS cRaxr
tEDKRTAkES 10 CnkRKl,r ,Ilru


ihh &isIAkks or DR. FOwLER-SES GRANT
tNDkSTAhkS TO cokRKCr THEN
,r Inc chicago I,t.r ooean publishes the follow
!ng interview with Gen. Grant nssrf Mn ybo
interview with Dr. c. A. Fowler Snh,S,st III
yeSteroay morning. ''The reported IntSr,,,ss, :,
Sa,1 Gen Grant. though Il is In most reSoe,;s
makes me say thing IN a way not fnten3ea az,
use some language that did no; emnloy Tho
iar1S are tnese; Dr Fowler called at my house I'm
company With Mr.. Craub TO nay MS rss,,Ss,,,
sil1 me conversation turned UPON moi ti,s
.alkea freely. without suspectlng for a monenf
S snat we conversation was ever TO be publiShei
Some time after pr. Fowler, on WHOSE roi,ea Sec
conNerSatio1 had made some fnlnrpsgion ,Trnfo
10 ne saying he desired 10 publish N: N / ia
ME nTs c rolecI ! replied, saving would rather
snIs Sould not DC done until one OF our speakers
VINO nad the same facts and was verifytny Them
, rom ne lies OF the War lepa ,ment had made
CaIni,lp' ECc; that AS be was preparing The facts
b,r oi@H;A; II would hardly he fair 10 anslcina:e
Eln- Ihat might Imply Permission IA nr
TOW ier 10 nubrsh his report CT the couvetsa
lilly Mnen lLe speaker alluded 10 had mad The
spteCh; 1 nave not EO'iCcd that ne las No,
lD6de II; but he Probably has or Dr F,u,er
"9Iio Dot have lub;Shel his article"
mt n. ~ Loi tSiN herein is the statement OF Dr.
fJNler incorrect, General:
Gen. Grant.-IJ IS Inaccurate "a mans. ~
specs lie reports nee, for instaac4. a. follows.
a'SHh 70 80 re N4aTcoch) seems IKE nan
ambhlouS 10 Gof'S duty a a. q fi,p- n y N Isc,
when McClllard was no,n'Uatrd IaS.,,,, -
oeived oHe Vote, ard Dat greatly cxc,t@d ana
efaISed nm. lie Was so delighted mat no
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got On well, after that ne would h ma, .oeS,,t
me- was working 40 eGtOrce the laws cf cn1.
yes and ne Wa working Tor the presidency.
PefhallS he thought Gi1 rot prate him ,,rourh
out al.N now he laIdlN spoke 10 rae 49,
said substantially that up 10 lSefI diar,f
suppose Hancock had a thought o. the prrSl~
Gehcy, but al the democratic convention OF that
year lac sol vote, hot one vote rs Dr Flyyler
has IL, " hich maf-S NE imply ina: he cot Inc
sopior. OF but one delegate. ana from that time
&c had The presidential bee Ia his honuet. Nh@n
that ytu could almost see II when his back was
tutned, do Let mean that SAID he THOUGHT 4
u'u nCI pi!Se hn enough, though possibly
ihat may DC the lact. Hancock Is a m "a who
nktS 10 near himself praised and sometimes
complained that lie was hot comDlimentad hi N
enough. 49,
Reporer.-How about his rronnn,iorq
Gen. Grant, stated to Or. Fowler that Han
COCK was promoted 10 be a bricadier apd a ma
JoI-senelal 10 me regular army on my recom-
menoation. Iecon mepded hlm aud SnerI-
can at the same time HancOck's nomtnatt5o
Was mace az once, hut Sa9ldan's YVES DELAYED
lof une. one OF Hancocks nominations MAS
mace after the war and think Il WIS after Tho
Chicago convention That he was made a brIya-
der. NEJn ! recommended him Tor ma lor- lrSn
elal be hGd Doen very cold toward me and had
Tot spoken 10 IRE Tor a long time. / never kneW
what was The matter unless hC thought had
not consulted him fl making his assirnments
10 duty. When promoted. however he wrots a
manly letter 10 me, In which he said subs. an
italy that he believed he vas Cntlr,ly ind ,oira
10 me Tor II, Though he had thought / vas not
Wing 10 90 him iStice. This convinced him
he Lau been mistaken. He Nas male f,,1 ar CON
eIal v hen Was made general. Or. FaW,er does
not get hold or the points about order M 10
correctly. By the various reconstruction acfs
Congress. for consisteGcy's sake | supoDse-
SiDhped ne OF all authority over tie district
cClAnabceTS IN Tier civil duties, eXrcpf I'm
the matter or the appointment ana removal
q cNH cheers In the reconstructed states.
AS was senior my authority was SUI
pelior 10 other. Or. Fowler quo.es me
as saying that the Louisiana legislature passed
a law authorizing the issue OF seven m!ii.oa dol
Iars OF ltNee bends. Ills may have said but IL
J Cio II was mistake. the amount being = nHo-
900. In regard 10 the statement also that me
LOUISIANA commissioners agreed 10 pay Regerdy
johnson and other lawyers 500 6O0. 1 stated
What W derstood and hot a fact Within nav
own personal knowledge. The next nara pranh
CT Dr. FoWlers report is wide OF the mark. 1
an made TO say, He president JohnSoD1 called
Hancock to Washington 10 instruct LtIa In ae-
featiDS the laws or Congress- l. OF course do
Lot khow why Johnson called Hancock / c6lId
only surmse. know Hancock came A mis-
take also occurs Ia the following paragraph
wherein am made 10 say, 'iIe QlaDclcS) went
South and removed the government and CON-
m;ssioners that Gen. Sheridan had appointed.
instantly telpgraphed him not to appoint 10 Of
fee any man who had been removed, and 20
give his reasons by mall for removing the men"
when Hancock went soath published an order
prohibiting HIM from appointing anybody TO
Office who had been removed by his predecessor
This, L SappoSe, he did Tot like, but my object
was TO prevent The Possibility or tie mel being
ton oi those bonds, even for one hour. | had
intended 20 tell Hancock all about IT, as 4 hal
Johnson, but seeing during my interview with
hin tlat he has Lot disposed 10 listen 10 NY
advice, did not tell him. After be had been
down south some time he made pretty clean
sweep OF the officers who hal been appointed
by General Sheridan. L then telegfaphed 20
him 10 suspend his orders of removal aud report
10 lie by mail. There was an order eXistlug. IL
nember Alright, prohibiting tie use OF The
iG!6glaph when tie mail could be empl Dyed
lie rtpiled ia d very long dispatch, costing IL I
RENE nber correctly. about $3.50. 1 Informed him
was not satisfied, but IL he had any Tuither
reasoDS 10 communicate TO do 50 by mail He
again replied by telegraph. but gave nothing
ieF. s2ylnG s!upiy That his C5eiul1eSs would
te o. S'ftt 60 ii he Was BOT left Tree 10 act and
ibat unleSs lie vas lett free TO act he should ask
10 he relieved. | ordered him TO revoke his
order making removals and 10 make no more
He then asked 10 he relieved aud relieved aim.
! AWAY regarded his mere declaration Ia order
no. 20 That the military should be subordinate
10 Tie ciVil power as something that every body
accepted AID nobody disputed. As officers we
wee sworn 10 obey our SuperiorS, Congress-
MAS our superior and had made the laws and
these laws iuade the military subordinate. We
were actins uICer them, but his order made the
laws subordinate 10 his own opinions.
RtpoTter.-The latter part of the interview,
general GGrpoTts 10 give your feelings over the
result IN Chicago. H0T is that?
General Gfant.-Ael. correct In substance
bet oppressed as l would hardly express It. /
said that 10 man let more relieved at the finaI
result Of The Chicago convention than myself
would have declined 70 permit the use OF my
name haC IL Lot been fer the character OF the
men Who were urging II. but did not think it
would be fair toward them TO do 50. L. is also
frIe, as stated by Dr. Fowler that believed /
coula be al up tie solid south aud bring about
state vi affairs where tie two great parties
would be national pa!ties
1here small boy had some powder.
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