Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1880-05-11
POPE BOB ON THE PRESIDENCY


POPE BOB ON THE PRESIDENCY
He IS StfIt an Adherent Of "The PIUnep
Knigit'-The Outlook In Jitinots--T ridden
Ahead In the Democratic Racs
Interview in Louisville Courier. Journal
"The last time 1 saw you" said the re-
porter, "you were Blaine man. Since then
purported interview with you has been
telegraphed from Washington, in which you
we're reported to have taken the position that
Grant was the most available man, and his
nomination by the Republicans very desira-
ble."
II am still for Blaine answered Col.
Ingersoll. "The interview referred to by
you never took place. 1t grew out of a
private conversation, in which l stated that i
supposed Grant would carry Illinois, AM
from that some one concluded that
Grant was my first choice. | sup-
posed at that time that Grant would carry
Illinois; it looks now little doubtful. /
think Blaine would run better than any man
the Republicans could nominate. Personal
L
Blaine is more popular; that ne would create
greater enthusiasm, and, if elected, his sd-
minlstration would be great success. He
would do as much as any man could do to
harmonic all sections of the country"
"Have you kept posted On the campaign
of Blaine and Grant? Have you been in
communication with any of Blaine's friends
in Washington"
Ia rIry II
soil, ~ have taken very little interest in it."
"Do you know whether these chickering's
between Blaine and Grant, in which Grants
friends have accused Blaine of taking undue
advantage of him, have produced any bitter
feeling between the two factions?"
BLAINE AS his OWN BOOMER.
81 don't think there is any bitter feeling
between them. think Blaine, personally,
was utterly ignorant of it, while if any of
Grant could object to, don't think it Wa4
with BIaine's knowledge or consent. Blaire
has attended to the conduct of his own cam
paign with great deal of Industry, and has
thus far met with surprising SUCCESS nnder
the circumstances"
speaking" said the reporter, "about Ill
inois, did you see dispatch in ST. Lous
paper about conspiracy set on foot By
Washburne, Blaine and OglesbYto slaughter
Grant at Springfield"
'No, did not,'' with sniff Of surprise.
The reporter enlightened Col. IngersoIl at
once, and explained the drift of the dispatch
in the Globe Democrat, in which it was
charged that Blaine and Wsshburne had
come to an agreement through even the
spotless Grant headquarters at Ohicago---by
which at Springfield it was shown that
Blaine was very weak in the west, he was to
draw and use his force in the convention
for Weshburne. On the other hand, if it
were developed that Grant was strong,
Washburne was to withdraw and let his
forces go to Blaine.
"Ihere is no truth in any such report"
said Col. Ingersoll, emphatically, 'none
whatever" Then, after pause, Wash
burne has no strength"
''Not in Illinois 2"
mo; not anywhere as q Presidential can
didate Washburne has announced himself
for Grant first, last and all the time, and il
Grant can not be nominated he can not
throw his forces for anybody. The dele
gates will teen use their own judgment. No
bargain, in my Judgment, has ever been
made nor ever will be made between Wash
| burne and Blaine. They are not men who
would naturally make a bargain; they are
not near enough together to talk about
| bargain"
''Have you been in Illinois lately ?"
| 'Not very recently"
"Are you informed as to the feeling in
that State az between Grant and Blaine?"
ILLINOIS AS A PERsEoUTED MAID.
II had supposed all the time" said Col.
Ingersoll "that Grant would carry Illinois,
but if he carries it at all it will he byan ex-
ceedingly small majority. think, if left to
vote of the Republicans of the State,
Blaine would pet it. 1t may be, however,
that Logan end his friends will be able TO
give the State to Grant. 1t is something
like young girl marrying the fellow that
her father picks ont, although she likes an
other fellow better
"What is the cause of Grants weakness
in Illinois ?''
81 think only two things; the widespread
prejudice against third term, and, second
ly, Blaine's popularity. Most of the Repub-
licans Of the country think that ibe republic
shoald distribute its houors fairly among
the deserving, aud that three terms should
not be gwen 10 any one man.
Leading Col. Iugersoll down from The
dizzy heights of eloquent pagauism TO the
blooming and bloming field of politics, the
reporter asked what be thought about the
Democratic convention aud who was going
to be the nominee.
II think" said he, cup to the present
time Tilden mas the best chance"
"Is there snch feeling ia the East for
him?''
Col. Ingersoll-"A great deal. Most of
the Democrats think seem 10 think that be
has been swindIed out of the office once.
and that as q mere matter of Justice he
ought Ia be nominated again. Some think
thpt if Tilden is nominated, Kelly can hold
but few of bis men, and that q very large
majority (prCvided Filden' chances are good
for electon) will go over to Tilden because
Tiden will have more patronage than Kelly.
And the average politician, you know, while
of course he is not Inercenary, he at least
keeps in view the great doctrine of self-pre-
serva ion. great many IN the East talk of
Seymour
"Who arc those personsI'
democrats, generally; good Democrats,
and everybody admits that Seymour is q
good, honest mana man of great intelli-
genca, and / have seen nobody that did not
think that he could get ss many votes in
New York as ANY Democra
"ln case of Tilden's nomination ut Gin
cinnsti. colonel, do -cu think Kelly strength
in New York will affect his chanoesI"
II don't think it amounts to much. In
national campaigns, State difficulties are
apt to be put away; they become contempt
bic. OF course it ia very important for
Tammsny to hold New York, and in the city
they may have more confidence of getting
something within reach than something they
would bave to go to Washington for. But
my opinion is that the fight would not
amount to a great dealvand the reason say