The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1880-04-22
FORTY SIXTH CONGRESS-,
CLASH BETWEEN CARPENTER
AND BLAINE ON THE GENEVA
AWARD.
Question of Pensioning Old Soldiers Before til
House.
SENATE.

Washington, April 10 Mr., Davis Ilinols)from
the Committee on Judiciary, reported bill TO
provide that whenever Circuitand District Courts
of the United States are held at the same time
and place, there shall be but one grand and petit
jury summoned to attend said courts at one and
the same time 1t provides juries summoned for
one court may serve in another, but either court
may summon several panels 4 necessary. The
bill was passed.
Mr.. Wallace, from the Select Committee to in.
qure into the alleged frauds in the late election,
submitted a report on the prevention of elective
franchise by threats Of deprivation of employ.
ment Laid on the table and ordered printed,
Mr.. Teller announced minority report will be
made.
Mr., Wither's reported back the Army AppIo.
priation bill. Placed on the calendar.
On motion Of Mr. Cameron Pa) by a vote NJ
9S to q, his joint resolution for commission to
consider and report what legislation is needed
for the better regulation Of commerce between
States was taken up.
Mr.. Salisbury offered an amendment instruct.
ing the Commission to inquire into the affects NJ
railway consolidation and what power Congress
has in the matter. Pending debate the morning
hour expired and the resolution went over.
GENEVA AWARD,
The Senate resumed consideration Of the Ge.
neva Award bill, and Mr.. Carpenter continued
his speech In support Of the committees bill He
proceeded to consider some of the arpuments
against the payment Of the underwriters. He
also showed that the letter of Secretary Fish. az
| to the award being national, quoted by Blaine
| as having been written six months after the
tribunal had thrown out Indirect claims, was in
| fact written seven days before the tribunal met
| Mr.. Carpenter further said that the document
| produced by Mr. Blaine as an opinion by Caleb
| Cushing must be forgery as it was not In a
professional form, and directly contradict ed
| Cushings language in letter in the New York
| Journal of Commerce. dated October H. lS72,
| which Mr.. Carpenter read, IeCiting that private
claimants have undoubted right to the fund
Mr. Blaine-I dislike to interrupt the Senator.
Mr.. CarpenteT-Then you had better not. I
| don't want to trouble you. Laughter
| Mr., Blaine expressed his desire 10 make state.
ment to 90 alongside of the one Just made by the
| Senator from Wisconsin, but Mr.. Carpenter did
not understand the othce OF an interruption to be
| to make reply to an argument
! Mr.. Carpenter said he did not support that
| part of the bill which passed claims for losses By
| eXCupaed cruisers, He saw no reason why In.
| suranCe companies should not be paid for actual
| losses though they had made money in other
| ranks.
| Mr.. Blaine said If he ever claimed to be law.
| yer, the wit of denying that he was one would
| be keener. He proceeded to show that Mr. Car.
| penter had, when he was in the Senate before,
voted five or six times against the payment of in.
| huranCe companies The Senator now gOught tn
explain those votes by saying 1t was not a final
exclusion but simply postponement of under.
writers claims.
| The discussion subsequently took the form OF
personalities between Messrs. Carpenter and
| Blaine.
Mr.. Blaine said it was so.
| Mr.. Carpenter said the Senate had one interest.
! ed man against another interested man on the
question of fact aud that led him to form his own
judgment OF an examination of the document 1t.
self, and he had no hesitation in saying that
Cushing never wrote a word Oft.
Mr., Blaine IN reply said that the attorneys Of
both sides having been heard, his colleague
| (Hamlin) had letter from MetCalf representing
the exCulpated cruisers losses stating that he him.
self had COnversed with Cushing in regard to the
matter ana the document had been used as au.
thOrity before Congress since 1873
MI Carpenter responded that Cushngs letter
to the Journal Of Commerce being written upon
his return tIOm Europe and before he was re.
tanned by the war premium men, expressed his
opinion more Enthusiastically than any thlDglWrit.
ten after he was retained.
Mr.. Blaine afterwards said that the Senator
from Wisconsin had closed his speech with an
els bOrate and very deserving eulOgium on Gen.
eral Grant who was President IN 1872 aud com.
muniCated the result of the arbitration to Con-
gress but nothing in that message gave the
slightest indication of Grants opinion as to what
were the proper claims to be paid.
Mr., Blaine held in his hand letter from John
A. Barker, President of the Great Western Insur.
ance Company Of New York to Secretary Fisk in
1870, on another subject in which he uses these
words THE opinion expressed TO me by Presi'
dent Grant thai insurance companies who had
charged premium for war risk could have no
claim, and that claims of that character belonged
only to the Government, which opinion you
stated to me was largely entertained in Washing.
ton, would seem to indicate the necessity of max
ing case before the Supreme Court so itseems,
said Blaine, that General Grant was not on Car
penter's side of the question.
Mr.. Carpenter thought the debate had grown
very shadOwy when the Senator from Maine went
fishing In the files Of the State Department to find
out what Grants opinion was on this subject. II
have the greatest possible admiration for General
Grant, should not yield even to the Senator
from Maine In that Qaughter), and yet on ques
tion Of this kind which l had deliberately exam.
ined should follow my own convictions and
judgment"
Mr. Blaine--The gentleman Is losing his memo.
~ as well as his courtesy, He introduced General
Grant with highly popular eulogium and pc
raded him as q witness on his side, and now he
says; "Oh yes General Grant is gentleman, but
his opinion is not worth any more in this case
than that Of any other respectable man." fol-
lowed General Grant through almost every meas
uTe Of his administration and stood adherent to
his policy and am very glad to zee that his level
headedness, his common sense and justice; his
accurate knowledge Of what Is fair between man
and man s clearly proven in this letter (appause)
MI, CaIpenter-'you have ruined me completely.
Laughter) Now q man who has praeticed law
twenty-five years has lost all benefit Of expert.
ence II he has not learned TO hold to the point In
issue, and not TO be led away by dash and show.
l read from the message to show his estimate Of
high characters of the arbitratOrs and the faith
full performance Of their duties In contrast to what
the Senator from Maine said. 1t was not as 70
what we she uld do with the fund further than
that fund received under such circumstances
ought to be dealt with honestly.
Mr. Thurman-The two Senators have set
themselves right on the third term question,
DAUGHTER and applause in the galleries and on the
hOor)
Mr., Edmunds appealed to the Chair to enforce
the rules of the Senate and preserve order,
Mr.. Thurman then spoke briefly, and after a
few remarks by Messrs, Edmunds and Eaton, the
Senate. adjourned