Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1880-10-20


The speaker announced the appointment Of
standing committees of the house, as follows:
GHerai committee Messrs Booth Of Morristown Hub
hard OF Of SnS Il psa IN sGd Dss Of
lain Of bradford, tiffany Of Psfori SAWYER o. More
New Haven Sichois Of Essex and Morrill, Of Canaan
On ereciions-Messrs Judevlne of lariwck Palmer Of
IssS sTy OF "a o %h
ing.
Bills ETC., introduced and reterred-By Mr.
HUBBARD Of Plymouth, to legalize the grand
list Of the town Of Plymouth for the year 1879;
to committee on grand list.
By Mr.. MERRIFIELD Of Newfane, to legalize
the grand list OF the town Of Newfane for the
years 1877, 1873 1879 and 1880; to committee on
grand list
Mr. PAGE OF Rutland called the attention Of
the house TO the fact that the house had adopted
and the senate had concurred in the adoption OF
a Joint resolution providing that the two houses
meet in Joint assembly this afternoon at half-past
two o'clock for the purpose of hearing the re-
port of the joint canvassing committee for repre-
sentatives to congress. lie asked the clerk to
read the forty-second section Of chapter OF the
general statutes, rage 40 The clerk read the sec
ton, which provides that the two houses shall
meet for the purpose OF canvassing the votes for
congressman on the Monday next after the second
Thursday in October Mr. Page then moved the
senate be requested to return to the house the
resolution in question; agreed to. The joint reso-
luton having been returned, on motion Of Mr.
Page its adoption vas reconsdered, and 1t was
on his motion then ordered to lie.
Bills ETC., introduced and referred-By Mr.
ALLEN Of llnesburg, amending sec Is, chap
10, <. s., so as TO make it provide, first, that at
the annual town meeting in 1881 the voters Of
every town shall elect three selectmen, three list
ers, three auditors and three fence viewers and
one of SAID boards shall serve for one year, one
for two years and one for three years; second,
that at each succeeding town meeting there shall
be elected one selectman, one lister, one auditor
and one fence viewer, to serve three years each
TO gen. com
Report From the senate, of the committee on
Joint rules. The clerk read the report
Mr. FLETCHER of Cavendsh Intercepted the
committee In regard to rule 9 which relates to the
engrossing Of bills.
Mr. ABEL, W. Haven explained its provisions.
Mr. HOWE of Ludlow moved that rule be
amended by striking ont that part which provides
for the engrossing of bills before the third reading
Mr. PAGE of Rutland opposed the motion Of
Mr. Howe. lie thought 1t was safer TO require
bills to be engrossed before the third reading.
There was record in the secretary of state $
office of bill that never passed the Legislature in
the form in which 1t now exists II that bill had
been engrossed before its third reading thousands
OF dollars might have been collected as taxes
The only safe way to avoid error was to have
the bills engrossed before the third reading,
That was the practice before 1872, and he thought
ii was the best way.
Mr.. FIFIELD Of Montpelier said 1t would re-
quire special law to secure Mr.. Pages object.
There must be an act dispensing with the engross-
ing clerk now in the secretary Of states office;
but that could not be done by Joint resolution.
Mr.. PAGE said that the first step was to make
the joint rules what they should be- then they
could pass an act.
Mr.. HOWE Of Ludlow was afraid it would take
twice as much clerical labor as ut present to
have the bills engrossed before the third reading
Mr.. HlNCKLEY believed in the present law
directing the engrossing Of bills after their pas.
sage over the old. Bills are very often amended
after the third reading, and If those amendments
were tackled on to the eDgrossed copy would it be
bad. lie knew of cases where bills had been
amended twenty times after engrossment, and II
would take a Philadelphia lawyer to straghten
them out. lie thought the present method wa,
error in eight years was proof of safety.
After further discussion by Mr.. Fletcher, Mr.
| llowes motion was adopted.
| Mr. BATTEl.L moved to strike out the rule
creating the committee on the house of correction
and add 10 the committee on reform school, the
words, "and house OF correction" so a. to make
one committee for both institutions.
Mr.. HlNCkLEi favored the motion OF the gen
tleman from Middlebury, and thought that thi,
amendment would save expense to the state.
Mr.. HOWE facetiously proposed a further
amendment, so as to unite three committees
the committee on reform school, house of cOrrec
ton, and game and fisheries. He said that thu
game and fish committee would uudoubtedly
want to visit Lake Champlain to look after tn,
fish, and it would save one trip to Essex junction
| laughter.
Mr.. MARTIN of Londonderry (Mr Dart o
Weathersfeld in the chair hoped the houst
would concur with the senate in the adoption o
the rules as "A whole without any change Tn,
two committees were very important ones, anC
the gentlemen upon them should not only b'
good legislators but should have ample time /,
perform their duties Understandings The ques
tons before the two committees were very differ
ent In their nature. The house of correction com
mittee might have the question OF an extension
OF the building before them, and this would neet
considerable time in order to arrive at a correc
decision. The committee on the reform schoo
| would have the whole question Of the treatmen
OF young offenders before them. There was al
ready difference OF opinion between the retir
| ing governor and the management which Ough
to be looked into. II the supervision Of thes
two institutions devolved upon one committee,
would oblige the members to be away longe
than they ought TO do. lie hoped neither amend
ment would be adopted. Mr.. Howe of LUDLOW
withdrew his amendment and Mr.. Battel
amendment was lost
Mr.. MOTT of Alburgh moved that sec. II o
the joint rules, which says that no bill whicl
passes one house on the last day of session shall
sent TO the other for concurrence be stricken out
Messrs. MARTIN and HlNCkLEY opposed thi
amendment, their reasons being the same. The
called the attention Of the house to the evils q
hasty legislation, which were so well known tina
they needed no illustration, The amendmen
was then lost.
Mr. HOWE OF Ludlow proposed to furthe
amend sec. and insert provision that all bill
after their final passage shall be signed by tn
presiding officials of both houses.
MIR. PAGE moved TO substitute for Mr.. Howe
amendment S, . Of the rules of last session
agreed TO- and the joint rules were adopted wit
the proposals OF amendment.
Bills etc, introduced and referred. From tn
senate, sec. 3 an act authorizing the village {
st. Johnsbury TO refund their bonds and to issu
new bonds; TO com. ways and means.
BY Mr.. CHASE OF Jay, providing that person
imprisoned on account Of offence OF whic
la hp mt n 3
parties making the accusation reasonable con
pensation to com on the Judiciary.
BY MI. DOUD Of New Haven, to egalize an
incorporate the Congregational society of Ne
Haven; to general CON,
BY Mr.. ABEL OF West Haven, to pay Edwi
Horton of Chittenden a suitable sum for time an
expense in pursuing and capturing one Juliu
blanchard charged with burglary; to com. o
claims.