The New Orleans daily Democrat., 1880-04-03

reaueet the enforcement of this rule during
the remainder of the session.
Respectfully.
]. H 90 grove. !; MI Jones.
II. u. Drain. II. W Ogden,
J. @ BasRin. J. i. Hathaway.
II Dudenhefer. A. l.. Atkins.
Martin Carron, j. o. Morgan
J, Y. Lyons, James Barry.
q. L, Lucke, w. II. BHlger,
Hueh Mcdonald.
Representative Atkins said | have the most
supreme disgust Tor any person who would
Representative B lllu insisted that rule 20 did
not give the Speaker the authority t., exclude
hey a had he sbt to be on the door BY
parllau, en'ary rule. Ii was femat kabls pro-
ceediug proposed by The petition. He had areht
rs q II representatives to enter the Senate cham
her and speak privately with any Senator on
any eubjact. He had the right to enter the of
a i3e of any executive officer and remain In there
power to put him out. No one could ex-
cude him. Senators had similar right to
como on The floor If the House. Every .egis
lature of which he had been member accorded
such right, Barclay sustained him Ia this
position. and the customs uf Legislative bodies
10 this country. since 177G. also sustained him
The charge had been made that Senators were
lobbying on the fioor,,. He eontended that
neither Senator nor a State officer could he n
lobbyist In any sense OF the term and under
aty circumstance.
The Speaker tMr. Kavanagh In the. chair
fu ed that all persons must be excluded. State
offioers and Senators inclnded. under The ope-
rati IN [ rule 20 which provided that all per
sons must be excluded from the nall when the
speaker was requested by ten members 20 have
Representative BillIu appealed from the de-
Giaon of the chair.
instead of sustaining the position of the gentle
man from LRfourche. decided directly end pos-
lively asaioet him BaEoIay stated In SON 80 many
clude all but members and employees from the
foor Rule 80 of the House was equally clear
upon this point and the Speaker had decided
correctly. He agreed with the gentleman that
M Senator who had proper regard for the
dignity and honor OF, hi y sition could be a
OF the House dap a number of Senators and
a State officer lobbying for the general cry
BIZ; They were interrupting The proc, edings
of the House and interfering with Its members,
and the House ehonid protect Itself
Repre- eseptative Robertson tsid this was n
grave charge and should be investig ated. Hs
fherefore demanded that the gentleman from
Natebitoches should call by name the State
Senators and State officer embraced In that
charge.
Repres entatiye Oosgrove replied that he had
not alluded to individuals and would not do SO.
He had stated fact, but should refuse to
answer the question.
Representative Harris made the point of
order that DO member Of the House had the
right to reflect upon Senators. Oeerruled:
had a high regard for tho gentleman from La
fourfhe. and regretted sineer' ly 70 see him
come 70 III" supp r, of lobbyists. The House
should be purged them, and he was surprised
to see the gentleman making such exertions to |
prevent it, He made no distinction as to lob. |
byists whetber they were State officers, State |
House should be purged otlhem If Senstors de- |
seended from their stations and were 80 devoid |
Of dignity as to ATTEMPT to Lobby isuch, meas-
uTe as the general lottery bill In the House, Il |
was the duty of the House to trotect itself
from them. ard at III. came ti,ae to protect the
dignity of the General Assembly.
Representative Atkins wanted 10 know what |
all this meaut. Had the lion been bearded In
his de9i The House bad beer TO day tho
and State Senators had been seen on the ionr
lobbying opeDly Ia behalf of dsgraoefu bill, |
and members of the House had shown them |
selves to be devoid OF nor by going out to |
consult with and assist them.
Representative Biliu-Does the gentleman
mean n, q to cay that have violated any principle
Representative Atklns-I did not refer to the
gentleman.
the most shameful lobbying had been going on |
to day. Any one State officer or Senator who |
" ,uld lobby on this floor, he had. he repeated
the most supreme contempt for. He did noj
PROPOSE to mtnce matters. but expressed this
opthion openly and without any regard to the
Rep1ese, Va i've Blliu sold the gentlemen
from Nstchtoches and Claib rne had not
touched the poiat Involved In thu petition He
insisted !, that b. bare maj ,rty could ovehprn the
from which he appealed but thu Speakers con
structon of that rule. and 1t was clear that only
q maj .ri'y vote would be required to decide the
appeal. The change had been made that be ds-
sired to protect lobbyists There was no basis
for such charge, and he dent ID It,. H. had not
the other side. He had had this lottery matter
dinned into his ears on all occasion by the
papers. ou the streets and In the hotels, He
had dreamed of II In his eieeu, 6nd now he
heard II on the floor OF the use. It would
ring In his sars when he returned home; He
aeatn insisted that a maj 'rity Of the House
,ould overrule the decision f the chair. and he
Hoped that the House " ,uli 81 voc.
kepres. ntstive hllain thought the decision of
he chair should be sustained, 1t wts clearly In
geeping with rule 20 Of the House. That rule !
,ari iss counterpart In the rules Of other par,s.
mem ary bodies. and was Il wise anG mr. ,ner
,royisiop The House under Its provisions.
ould always protect Itself,
Representative Richardson did not believe
he rule applied to senators and State officers
insisted that Senators had the right to speak
ID the foor In favor Of any hlll, This was par
ery bill The State of Louisiana had had 9, g.
mites that IL had been necessary to fig In the
held but none so great us the in Lou,ana 2 Lot
be duty Of every citizen to fight and help
q crush. He hoped the appeal would be sus
ained
Representative Faulkner confined his re-
marks to the rue. He supported the decision
Of the chair, and argued that 1t was proper and
Rspte 4eutative Rob4itson said that the en-
|orcament ot the rule would have the tftact of
blocking LEGISLATION; 1a Under its IT, OPERATION % no
The Senate and toe Secretary Of that body would
not b. permitted to enter with bills or report to
The House what the Senate had done
Was the House afraid to legislate with
open door, ? The les luton would exclude
even reporters Of the press (, ON he floor, and
the publie would thus, remain in Ignorance Of
what was going on. Some stupendnus power
was at the bottom of the petition He did not
know what 1t was. He bad an inkipg what 1t
meant. but would not say. That some hing he
House should discover. II + was proposed to
sit with closed doors and not let the eye of the
should tender bis resignation and 20 home.
Representative Bulger explained whv he
signed the petition. At the time IL was pre-
sented to him an important bill wns before he
House In which he was interested (the fee BID
He desired to hear what was going on, but the
lobby made 30 uch noise that II was imp. sst
BILE for him to do 20, He only desired to have
hat the c.peration of this rule. would exclude
rom the lor STATE officers and Senator'S. For
,ne he believed they should have the privileges
II the floor,
Representative Farmer moved that the House
10 now tdjouru. Lost-yeas SO, nays so
Representative Ogden, OF bossier. said he had
not Intended to speak upon this question. but
ifter the singular pos ition assumed by the gen.