New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1880-12-19

sbont Which ~ Duianre cannot lear or read
Of IN tie, papers, wiilon' iy1n trsn ,G.o q
Thiers. got round Bar;hclemy ~. lfiIaire
and jules Ferry. aud induced item to ny and pue
of this measure to the Greek kasnas. , ne ,in,;, \"
the business list of the CIamteIs OF u" fuD'ic III
structon bill. was the reason OF the cris, Iiom
which he has just emerged. lie was i"'i""'o''
t,amhetfa. who at once, last Tuesday. perceived
that NJ Ferry was going TO stumble. apptIssa n ~,
rs well as he could IN "a hint from HE CHAIR Oh tho
blunder be was making. But neither the Premier
the Chamber understood exactly where ,ney
were NJ jules Ferry TO he annoyaGce o. oa.s
as he himself declared yssterday-his resignation;
and on the instances Of the Presidents OF the re-
public. of the Chamber and OF fifty eight Depltles
who lad voted against the shelving OF he Judica-
turc hill withdrew il, " from patriotism.
The English press find has taken adyantage 10, os
the crisis lecture Gambetta Tor not assuming the
Presidency Of the Ministerial Council.
AN INTERVIEW WITH GAMBETTA.
saw Gamhetta Oh Wednesday morning and bad
a long talk with him. He was IN his study on the
first floor OF the Petit Bourbon, which IS a splendid
and not bljOu palace as tie name would imply 10
those who have not been in It, Gamteta
was IN a peq-Iacket and had smoking
cap or fez upon his head. Whenever he
is in quandary he dons the fez lie was angry
with the Chamber for having driven the Ministry
into corner and with Jules Ferry for taking iss'ia
upon question with which the Government had no
sort of right to interfere. The majority was
as:ounded when it found the Cabinet
had taken umbrage at It's vote said: here seems
to me only two ways ont Of the political dilemma
the resignation of Ferry imposes, namely, patching
I'D or---" stopped for ] was AFRAID had gone too
far. "Or what ~ asked Gambetta eagerly. " Or
your advent to office followed by
d;ssolut,on And tins conrse would have great
draw backs The Chamber has not yet shown SUM
cient reforming activity TO merit the renewal OF i's
mandate. 1t might be necessary Tor IL u 20 on ui-
til autumn III order to pass the measures IL Is
pledged to-" 49,
GaIube,ta replied: Your view of the situation IN
oil that does not concern mo n fbe true one. Dus
on tits point You mistaken should he IN a raise
position If took office, and besides Iam determined
never to head a Cabinet until there Is aChaincer
returned under the Scgatin de tiote departmental
ticketsI. Such chamber alone can III france eve
and receive political inpulson. | have no objec-
ton TO broad high waves. but hate TO navigate III
a choppiug sea across which still breczes blow"
Cienienceau the night before expressed the same
idea ID ferent words. He was satisfied that until
the political education OF rural france Is
much more advanced than 1T IS now.
district elections aSt kn Wi rs' 'her
minds and incapable of originating political pro-
gramme Ministers now lead the lives OF slaves.
lheu supporters III the Chambers only tbink OF inc
palry interests Of themselves and their constituents
ClemeIccau is in appearance ard reality hostile 10
Gambetta. Nevertheless he fay0rs. as mueh as the
President OF the Chambers, the repeal OF the distrct
system and the restoration OF me elccion Vi oep"
Inc bappy settlement of the crisis has been mainly
due TO Gambetta and-let the Engilhh Journals zee
ture rs ;hey may, and talk 1t hi-icGOullds 10 bls
credit HIS conduct throughout has been loyal anu
correct and he has shown wIthal eons'lnlnate dlpo-
matte skill. In dealing with the baGdiy hsson
incident nc acted with trmDeSs aud dll hlty: rover
il no; escaping from Gtmbetta's hands. Ills lnlus
ence was never on "a moro Soild Oasls.