The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1880-07-31

large a pecuniary advance with the expectation o
securing future Possession and sovereignty o
these Islands, but it is Hawaii's duty, as we'll t.
her own children as to the rest Of the world, tC
maintain her independence complete and intact b.
every means at her command. This gone. there
follows the immediate extinction OF her people
one soouid therefore regard as implacable enemies
the more to BE- Stunned il approaching her undel
a friendly Ruise, all those whose cOunsels tend Il
Jeopardise that independence, or what is the same
thing, cause Der to swerve ia the slightest degres
from The straight path Of duty and enlightened sell
interest. But as it would not be her duty, and
would not promote Der interests. even were ii il
her power to borrow this large sum Of money
which she could not employ prOftably or ever
hope to repay, the disbursement of which wonld
give rise to enumeTable heart -burnings and inter
minable disputes. and would be- attended with IN.
told corruption. Your committee recommends
this Assembly not TO sanction any borrowing, Ger
tainiy none greater than can be probably employed
IN necessary and well defined sanitary or other
improvements.
The dangerous nature Of this bill has perhaps
been sufficiently indicated, but your
would not feel justified in concluding their report
without remarkinR that in asserting TO the appro-
preparation of public moneys by any other body
than itself. or by delrgating any one to act for 1t IN
this respect. this Assembly would abdicate us
rights and liberties and would commit a suicidal
act Just as national suicide would be committed by
borrowing ten millions Of dollars from any foreign
power at the cost OF the independence OF the
country.
IOuT COmnlttee therefore TtCOHu1ruu ~ W.
nite postponement of any further confederation ot
this bill. RHopEs PmIPO. KAULUKnU.
Report ordered to be laid on the table to be
considered with the minority report.
PETITION.
That this House expresses its disapproval of
the petition that had been published IN the news
paper regarding His Ex. Sam q. Wilder.
Dir. KaIua said he did not approve oil the petit
tion referred to. Ii expressed confidence IN one
Minister and did not mentinn the others, thereby
implying that they did not think 20 well OF them.
If there was a want OF confidence in the Ministry
it should come from this Assembly. and not from
outside. Yesterday he met a young man VINO
said he was sorry that his father had signed that
document. and his father is also sorry. lie u
an EngiIshman. and he was still more sorry that
it should have been published. lie has c"nh-
dence in the Hawaiian Ministers, and alrO IN the
other Ministers. The mover uf this petition was
an American, and lie had singled out the only
American who was a Minister. lie did not aP-
prove Of matters Of this kind being published.
praisIng up one and throwing discredIt on the
others. lie moved that they add to the resolution
that this Assembly have no Confidence IN state
ments OF this kind.
Dir. PIlipO moved that the resolution be indeh-
nitely postponed.
Mr. Castle said everybody has a right to speak
when they think that anything is wr"ng. In
great Britain when they take one of the Ministry
to task, they take all. People OF all national
tiles have signed this petition. and men who pay
taxes which this House has voted away 80 freely.
he would support the indefinite postPonement OF
the resolution.
wasted in unnecessary talk. This resolution had
no front to Il and no object, and il passed there
would be no result. He had his suspicion that
this resolution was not meant for any practical
purpose, but that il might lead to something else.
Does any member think 1t policy to take up an
- A.a..,a a =, Fh1a Inraa
If so, where Is your dignity. and where is the
dignity Of your Kingdom? He was surprised
and ashamed to think that ~forty-fve men should
be combating an advertisement, and that IL
should 90 forth to the world. Some people think
that because a statement appears in the news
paper it Is more value and more weighty than if
stated. Ii is not true or sound. The only value
OF printing a thing is to give 1t publicity. 1t does
not follow because he admired one member of
this House. that he maligned the other represen-
tatives. 1t is only thin skinned people that take
umbrage at such an affair. He could not think
that the members for Hilo and Puma, and others
feel agTieved at this expression. 1t Is ridiculous.
Those gentlemen say one thing, and now we wish
to say another. Who are we going to tell it to.
Ii is not directed to this assembly, to the King,
or to any other person. From whatever point
the resolution Is reviewed it seemed to him fool
ish. He thought the best thing the House could
do would be TO follow the lead of the member
for North KOna, and indefinitely postpone the
resolution.
The Minister Of Finance said he did
not feel sighted or hurt at what had been stated
in the newspapers. lie knew the cause of this
petition being published and circulated. Ii peo-
pie abroad see this resolution and do not under
stand 1t what construction can they put on it.
The signers of that petition are gentlemen, and if
necessary they can publish their sentiments.
Mr. Gibson ssid that the resolution was rather a
surprise to him. He had not had any iutimation of
1t previous to its presentation. nor did he suppose
that II WAS a part Of any pre-arrauged course of
action, as hinted by Mr.. Smith. He must take de-
cided exceptions TO the remarks of the Hon. Noble on
other points. The Noble claimed for the gentlemen
who had signed the document referred to in the re-
solution that they had as good q right as members
OF this Assembly, TO discuss public questions on The
street or elsewhere. or even before His Majesty. He
would take issue with the Noble in the latter point. +.
The members Of the Assembly as representatives, of
the people bad "a right To- present their views to His
Majesty which unofficial citizens could not claim.
The Hoo. Noble had supposed that in case be had ex-
pressed and perhaps published his opinion that the
hon MEMBER Tor LAhains was q very superior legis-
lAtor and should be sustained. should that opinion
be regarded as = reflection upon other members of
the Assembly Indeed not, IL the Hon Noble alone
Ventured upon such an opinion but If ne should
JOIN With a company OF merchants. and publish an
opinion OF the member for Lahaina's ability, and
Furthermore, they should declare that in their opini-
on the Hon. member for Lahsina should have the
disbursements Of the public funds in his hands for
thc neAt Two years. tnen there would be occasion for
other members to take serious exception 10 such in
vidIous Discrimination. And this publication must
not be spoken Of az a mere conversation in the
street, when We see the names OF foreign consuIs
among the list OF names, who. however, NAV have
Inadvertently coniravened their position as foreign
representatives by this expression Of interference in
the domestic policy OF the country. And let US look
at the assumption Of the Hon Castle, that the sign
ers OF the document represent so largely the coutri-
butors TO the public treasure, which we are so
laVishly sppTopriating.
One Is said TO have contributed $50, 900, another
$4,000. and others $4,000. or more, of custom
duties and let as examine this claim. A merchant
purchases 10 Holland gin at the rate Of SIPS a
dozen. or less than q rial = bottle. He paws 10 the
Government So q dozen or so cents a bottle duty.
add By and By the Chine-e illicit traficker or the
joeoer comes along and pays to the importer teu or
twelve dollars q dozen, or a sum Of money which re-
funds 10 the importer, bis 6rst cost in Holland. all
the duties paid, With a profit besides, and then some
poor native or foolish white man buys the bottle of
gio, two or tEenty-four dollars q dozen, and he paws
back to the importer, jobber. or Illicit trafhcker all
their outlay, and 90 he is the real Contributor TO the
treasu try. Aud in respect TO other articles. il il the
consumer that pays, they, the common l4borer, arti-
beer and ordinary consumer whom as well as the