The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1880-02-20

: lunWonted spectacle OF refusal 70 near nh
even on the subject OF the rules, H
(Conger) and his friends, together with
few Democrats, had at last brought tn
House TO position where the gentleman
from Georgia could speak, where the ga
was removed from him, and now witt
pleasure exceeding that which he haC
words 10 express, yielding to the earnes
longings Of his friends on all sides, to hea
again the old words Of Democracy from
the eloquent expoundero of those doctrines
he would yield the remainder OF his tint
to the gentleman from Georgia. =.
Mr.. Stephens, after expressing his oblt'
cations to the House and to the gentleman
from Michigan (Congerl said that 1t was
not his purpose to speak OF the history o.
the Democratic or Wing party, although
his attachment 10 party was as strong as
that OF any man in the House. he had
been reared in the Jeffersonian school Of
Democracy, In 1t he had lived and
breathed and had This being, and in it he
should die. Coming to the amendment
offered by the gentleman from Ohio (War-
ner) he declared that there were great
principles involved in II. Whether il was
adopted or.rejected, neither party would
be worsted. He was opposed to the 10th
rule individually. Why? Because he did
not believe that, according TO the Demo;
cratic doctrine OF Jefferson, Madison and
Jackson, it was ever intended that up:
preparation bills should be encountered
with any other legislation than ap-
preparations. II there had been any
progress in legislation in this country
1t had been in excluding from the appro.
priation bills other matters as riders.
The gentleman from Ohio (Hurd), had
said the other day that 1t was the Demo-
cratic doctrine TO seek redress OF the
grievances, BY Withholding the apprc-
priations. He (Stephens), repudiated that
proposition, toto e0elo. That had never
been the Democratic doctrine. 1t was a
monarchial doctrine. The redress of the
grievances in this country was first by Pc
tition OF the legislative body, next to the
judiciary and next TO the ballot-box.
Under the Constitution the Executive had
the same rightful and constitutional power
to veto bill, as the House and Senate had
to pass it, and the new doctrine OF making
war on the veto power through the means
OF the appropriation bills, was not Demo-
cratic, was not Republican, but was anti.
Constitutional. The only war waged
against the veto power in the past, was
by the Wings under Clay, one OF
the few OF the immortal names that
were not born to die. But he (Stephens)
exercising that independence Of thought,
which he ever had had, disagreed with
Clay on that war on the veto; but where
had stood the entire Democratic party on
that occasion? It had stood in defence OF
tho veto power, he repeated. He was
against all riders on appropriation bills,
and that was the position at which the ad.
vanced thought in political science all
over the world had arrived. The gentle
men on this side, said he, wheeling
round his chair SO as to face the Demo-
cratic benches) talked economy. Economy,
yes, that is the cry. l am for economy,
and the best way in the world to have
true, real lasting good economy Is to shut
down the door on your appropriation
committee. Applause on the Repub-
lican side. That committee will
have enough to do by following the esti-
mates. y One reason why Iifeel so much
interest in this question Is an intimation
from the gentleman from Ohio (Hurd)
that they want the 2lst rule in order to
tack on riders to appropriation bills-bills
which must pass or ought to pass-so as
to compel the Executives so as to force
redress Of fgrievanoes. Myopinion on that
subject was clearly given in the Demo.
cratic caucus when that scheme was tried
last session. l was opposed TO It then; 4
am opposed to 1t now, and shall ever be
opposed to any such kind Of legislation.
Mr.. Couger-Having accomplished the
object which had in behalf OF free speech
and fair play, move that the committee
rise.
The motion was agreed 10 and the COM
mittee accordingly rose.
The Chairman reported that 1t had had
the President's message under considera-
ton. Laughter. 81 "a :
Mr.. Blackhurn-Unless 1t be the pleas
ure OF the House TO waste more time, |
move that the House go into Committee
OF the Whole for the consideration OF the
rules. 49, KS
Mr.. Conger-I take exception to the re-
marks Of the gentleman from Kentucky
-(Mr. Blackburnl. fl
The Speaker-It is too late, busin ess
having intervened.
Mr.. Conger-The gentleman said, "ln
order that we may waste no more time."
Mr.. Blackburn-The gentleman said no
such thing. u
Of Mr.. Conger as he slowly stepped back
to his seat.l
The House then, on Mr.. Blackburn's
motion, wentin Committee OF the Whole,
Mr.. Caflislein the Chair, for the considera-
ton OF new rules, the pending question
being q point OF order made by MIR.
Hooker to the amendment offered by Mr..
Warner. The point OF order was over
ruled and Mr.. Warmers amendment to
the 2lst rule was adopted, Yeas III, nays
100. The amendment was to strike out
part OF the third clause oil the rule and to
insert, Except that 1t shall be in order to
reduce the expenditure OF money author.
ized or required by such existing law and
covered by the bill, and to change the law
only 10, the extent necessary TO make 1t
conform to such reduction" ii
Mr.. Mills moved three amendments in
succession, all OF which were rejected by
large majorities. They were as follows:
ANY amendment reducing customs and in
ternal revenue taxes shall be In the order
OF an appropriation bill. Any amendment
shall be in order that provides tof the re:
tire,nent OF the circulation OF national
banks or that prohibits the herenewal OF their
charters. Any amendment shall be In
order that provides for the coinage OF sill
yer on the same terms as gold. :,
The fact that the Greenbackers voted
arsihst the second amendment created
much Amusement In the House.
Mr.. Robson offered as substitute for
Mr.. Warmers amendmentan amendment
providing that no appropriation be re-
ported in any general appropriation bill, or
be- in order as an amendment thereto,
which changes the existing law. BE Of
fered the amendment TO present the square
issue, whether there should be any riders
or not.
Mr.. Randall-It presents the square
issue whether we win have any economy
or not, not riders. !,