Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1880-07-08
THE EVENING STAR.
Secretary Sherman Interviewed by
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his VERSION OF THR sEcRETaRr's OPINION OF THE
REPUBLICAN NOMINATIONS; THE True INWARD
NESS OF THE CHICAGO CONVENTION, AND OTHER
MATTERS.
The Cincinnati Enquirer OF yesterday has an
interview Of George Alfred Townsend with
Secretary Sherman. in the custom house build
ing in New York city. To the question, lis
Garfield going to be elected" the secretary is
quoted as saying:
1T all depends on the state OF New York
After pause he repeated: 1T all lies right here
If this state wants Garfield be can be elected"
Mr.. Secretary, there is no animation In the
canvass on either Side as yet. The democrats
feel unusually hopeful. having good Mon can
didate. The republicans said. Twill depend
great deal on Garfield himself. A man or his
power on the stump ought TO come 10 New York
and eniiyen the campaign"
II don't KNOW said the Secretary, whether
public optpisn viii tndorse. a candidate taking
the stump directly In his own favor. think
Garfield, II he has an erraDd In the east, might
make some incidental speeches on the way
short and general in their character think
that he has made some good speeches already.
Oh the 4th OF July
Mr.. Sherman, the republican hope in the
campaign must be in calling the attention OF
the country to concerns OF education and cq!-
tuIe, which Garfield so well represents The
republicans may well say that they have fia-
ished out the war and dismissed their oldest
generals, ana are now ready for an issue OF
CIVILIZATION.
You are right there" said the Secretary;
| that is Galfieids chance to arouse the spirit or
| education and culture He can fitly represent
tie schoolmaster abroad In the land: but then"
said Mr. sherman after a moment, do YOU
thihh The people Will spring to an idea OF refine
| l told the Secretary that his doubt was a
national one; that the people imbibed the idea
| OF the military and the physical heroes Quicker
| than that OF the schoolmaster. After pause
| the Secretary said: Il represented the idea
| which would have aroused the people. Ii [
| had been nominated would have been elected.
| The idea that L rpDrpSpnfpl business de-
| velopment. Having obtained the confidence OF
the business class oy my financial work, Icould
| reasonably have directed their attention TO busi
l ness Development, TO the building and opening
communications to prosperity
Yes, Mr.. secretary In this city at least there
were many business democrats strongly your
| favor"
81 know that" said Mr. sherman; there
were many such called on me before the con-
| vention and told me that they would assist to
elect me. 1 speak in no regret on the queS-
ton. because, as told you, my mind and con-
duct are again free. But the idea | represent
in some measure was the idea on which the
| republican party would have broad road 10
| success"
wen, sir, it looked to one that saw about
the Sunday before the convention met as Ii YOU
we've going to be nominated. Your enemies
were particularly alarmed. They thought
Grant would lead off and Blaine come second,
and when they neutralized each other the con-
vention would drop to the third candidate and
you would be nominated. Indiana and wiscon-
sin. being uncertain. had the fixing OF the NOM
Mr. Sherman replied: Indiana was DESTROYS
TO go for me. had telegraphic dispatch after
the convention was organized that there were
sixteen men in the Indiana delegation ready TO
come 10 me at once. All" said the Secretary,
my own state was little wayering."
Well sir" said, Governor Foster told me
the Sunday before the convention met that
there would be boom there for Garfield. but
that neither be nor Garfield could give it any
assistance
The great Secretary oil the Treasury shook his
head in practical way, and said: "Mr. Gath,
| Foster and those other gentlemen who ultt-
mately went TO Garfield were In that movement
1t is useless to say that they were drawn into 1t.
Foster was one of them. He had the vice prcSi-
Dental bee in his bonnet. He had an idea OF
| getting ON the ticket with Blaine. When that
nomination failed he thought he would push
Carried up TO the point, that he could take his
place In the Senate"
} Saying this the Secretary, without any feel
ing, showed profound conviction.
There was another delegate, Mr.. Sherman.
who 1ntimated TO me that there would be a
great CARRIED boom. Let me try TO remember
| his name"
AS ran over In my mind the different people
l had seen at Chicago, some hundred or thou.
} sands In number, Mr.. Sherman spoke over foul
: or i've names, but said: NO; let me think
moment" Finally l said:
''Mr. Bickham, of Dayton, told me he appre
hended there would be a rush for Garfield be
fore the convention ceased balioting."
"Blckham,' said MIR. Sherman, "waS my
friend. He was not In any movement to nomi-
nate another man; but you can rely On IL thai
1t was In Ohio that the plan was arranged no
| W adhere to me-"
Ohio" l said. "also made the rush to nom
n tt eX-Col6ctor Arthur for Vice President
4 i know II" said the Secretary. That wa:
a mistake
"Weli, sir, according to the general rumor
your friend Governor DenniSon, led off 10
/ Arthur"
1 "Well. Dennison' said the Secretary. "wa
an nc nest friend or mine; but perhaps he Wen
a lille too far In his desire TO concllate Ney
York. He meant for the best; but don't thin
t al end If the ticket strengthens it,"
Il hear Mr.. Secretary, that neither Mr.
Ccnkllng nor Governor Cornell are very warn
|. In f. vor Of Gen. Arthur. III bis nomination wa
4 designed TO be concession to them Ii was per
hapS mistaken"
Il should not be at all surprised at that,
said Mr.. Sherman.
told the Secretary that the New York man
aging politicians seemed to be DESTROYS {
make Garfield give them his substantia
promises, lest he might treat them llk
Hayes
"That is mendacious," exclaimed the Secre
tary. I'm effect, IL is true that Gen. Grant wa
beaten; but so was l, and so was Mr.. Blaine
The organization OF the nationa! committee is
great mistake.'a
'.Mr. Sherman, will there be any more scheme
Of refun6iDg?'
mo: there can not be. Congress has nc
given legislative authority for IL. We can't Cal
,, In the old bonds until they become due. AS q
Mr.. Hayes administration" said the Secretary
= lit has been one of the pureSt and most III
right this country ever had. Ii they beat m
because gave assistance to this ADMINISTERS
ton, they beat me to my credit
SeIf.SIanphter.