New-York tribune., 1880-06-24

This baIot was understood to disclose only the
first choice Of the delegates from each state, ana m
some cases not even that since friends OF seVefa OF
the candidates thought IL was better DOT 10 maze
them prominent at the beginning, and thus 10 aVOlu
arousng antasonI: AS soon as s ad;ouTed
uptl 10 o'clock tomorrow. and Delegates ana spec
tators alike quickly left the hall thinking s more OF
their dinners long DELAYED than OF the great po-
litioal contest in winch they were engaged.
NEW-YORK STILL DELIBERATING-
AN IMPORTANT MEETING WHICH RESULTS IN THE
WITHDRAWAL OF PAYNE-THR NEw-YoRK AND
OHIO MEN ALL AT sEA-TILDENs CHANCES
RErTER
lBY TELEGRAPH TO THE TRIBUNE.l
CINCINNATI, June 23.-The Eew-York delegation
held long meeting this evening. adjeHTning at
about midnight. As soon as tile delegation was
called to order, Mr.. Whitney in a speech explained
Mr.. Payne's position as candidate. lie said that
Mr.. Payne was not before the Convention by his
own seeking The Democrats of New-York had
Thought he would be . strong candidate, and at
their reauest he Whitney, had gone to Cleveland
to- see Mr.. Payne. The latter was unwilling to
allow his name to be usel but after further consid-
eration concluded that If the Democrats of New
York thought that his nomination would Inc wise
one. and if Mr. Tilden would take the same active
personal interest in the canvass that no would
take If he himself was the nominee, he would give
his consent and place himself m the hands OF the
Ney-YFk delegation. Mr Whitney emphasized
the fact that Mr.. Payne did not seek the candidacy
hut that it had been pressed upon him by OtIierS
Senator Jacobs. of Brooklyn then moved that the
deesation rescind the resolution passed yesterday
afternoon instructingthe chairman of the delegation
to east the vote of the State for Payne, and that
the Convention then adjourn till o'clock.
In support of this resolution MT. Jacobs called at
tention to the embarrassing posi- tim OF the delega
tion in voting for man whose own State would
not vote for him.
Mr.. Smith Weed opposed Mr.. Jacobss motion. He
said 1t was the duty of the delegation 10 stand by
its action. IL the meantime the Ohio de!e&atiOD
had held q meeting and twenty-seven members of
it had pledged themselves to cast the vote OF the
State for Payne but lot till 1t appeared that Senator
Thurman, for whom the delegation bad been in-
strueted, seemed to have chance of nOmi-
nation.
A committee of the Ohio delegation, consisting
of Judge Hoadley and Msssrs Long and Williams,
then waited on the New York delegation to explain
to them their position They said that the In
struetiens of the State Convention weTo cOnsid-
cred by them binding SO long as there was any
chance that Judge Thurman could get the nOmna-
tien. At the same time the majority OF the deega-
ton were for Payne, and would cast the solid vote
of the State at the proper time. They also SAID that
Bayard could net get vote in Ohio. and that Han
cock could get very very few. This explanation
was not satisfactory to the Payne men In the New
York delegatioD They thought it was unrsasO nable
to expeet Nsw-yOrk to stand by Payne and to vote
for him in what might be forlern hope, while the
delegation from his own State, In which his friends
were in majority. were throwing away their votes
on an impossible candidate. They were disposed to
Insist that Ohio shall abandon the Thurman
Nonsense at once, and cast its fOrty-fOur
votes for Payne the first ballot.
tomorrow. This idea was not expressed in quite as
plain and direct terms in the meeting, but it was
very generally held by the Payne men, and the dis
cussion on their part drove directly toward this
point.
been taken by Smith Weed He opposed any re-
versai of the delegation yesterday and advocated
standing by Payne.
Judge Pratt, of Brooklyn. was opposed to preciDi-
tate action in this NATTER and advocated adjourn
ment until O'Clock tomorrow without action. He
said that the fraud issue was the only one which
the Democratic party had and that it must proceed
with caution. Especially was it necessary that New
iYoik should take no hasty preciDtate action.
The other States were looking to her to nama tho
successful candidate, and that she should proceed
with caution. He counselled moderation and no
action on Senator Jaoobs's resolution until to-
morrow.
AfteNthis discussion had been In progress for
locg time the Payne men insisting that no change
In the attitude Of the delegation should take place
and the Brooklyn delegates pressing for o vote on
their resolution, Mr. Whitney obtained the floor and
said that IL Mr.. Payne vas here and knew of the
opposition to his candidacy in the Brooklyn portion
of the delegation he could not under any CIR
cumstanees consent to be a candidate.
He therefore felt authorized to withdraw Mr..
Payns's name and that he accordingly did so. This
acfioh was wholly unexpected by the delegation
and caused universal surprise. Nothing more was
done aud an adjournment was Immediately carried
vntil o'clock tomorrow. The withdrawal of Mr..
Payee,s name leaves the New-York and Ohio dele
gatiens I'm a very demOralized condition.
and it Is impossible to predict what
either viii do. some Of the Brooklyn men
who were opposing Payne said that they were In
favor of voting for Mr. Tiiden, as they had origt
naiiy iutesded 70 dog
ten rs soon ft was learned ontslFc the deie62.
tion rooms. caused as mach surprise and exctemens
a. IL had insida. The pf0dliusnt Payne men IN the
Ohio deleH2ticu were gathered near ene deor Ia
considerable numbers. and fully expected that the
Jacobs resolution would be tabled. They we're ali