Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1880-08-16
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therefore, to give some explanation of this
which he did. here insert
his own language In the pamphlet, pages
twenty and twenty-one:
Before left his room, however, he said he
had soune memoranda which seemed to indicate
that tho money had of him was on account
of stock, and asked me if he did not, some
time in 1868, deliver to me a statement to that
effect. told him if he had any account OF
that sort was neither aware OF it nor respon-
sible for it, and thereupon made substan-
TALLY the following statement:
"'Mr. Ames, the only memorandum you
ever showed me was in lS67-6S, when speaking
TO me Of this proposed sale of stock, you fig
ured out on little piece of paper what you
supposed would be realized from an invest
ment of $1,000, and, as remember, you
wrote down these figures:
1000
1,0U0
400
. AGO
as tho amounts you expected to realize
while saying this to Mr.. Ames | wrote
the figures as above on piece of paper
lying ON his table to show him what the only
statement was he had ever made to me. II il
totally false that these figures mad any other
meaning than that have here given, nor did
say anything out of which could be fabri-
Gated such statement az appears On pages
35S S59.
This may bea very good answer TO the
charge that Mr.. Garfield presented these
figures as Claim for profits due him on the
stock, but ii is fearfully damaging testimony
when he comes to deny that he knew where
the profits of the Credit Mobilier stock were
to come from. rs had sworn he did no;
know whence the profits were to come. He
had told MIR. j. s. Black he did not know
whence they were to come. And yet his
friend Hinsdale says: "You gave me q
detailed statement of your affairs and con-
cluded by saying you had some stock
offered you which, il you bought it, would
make you some money!" and lastly. here he
comes and admits that when Mr. Ames frs,
offered him the stock in 1868 he figured
ont to him on little piece Of paper what
would be realized from an Investment Of
$1,000 in Credit Mobilier stock. Ames says
Garfield made these figures to show he haG
not been paid enough. Garfield denies this
but admits he made them to show that hi
understood exactly what the stock was ex.
pected to be worth and that he understood
this from the beginning.
In order to show that he did not under
stand the Credit Mobilier he took great care
to tell what Train had said to him about its
being scheme to buy lots and build house.
on the Pacific railroad. How than could b.
make figures that showed SO accurately the
exact enterprise as Ames represented it2 /
was impossible to state so accurately TIM
profits on housebuilding. When denying
one charge he says:
"When, in the winter of lS67-6S, Mr.. Amei
proposed to sell me some of the stock regard
ed it as mere repetition of the offer made BY
MIR. Train more than year before. The COM
papy was the same and the amount offered IN,
was the same. Mr.. Ames knew it had former
ly been offered me, for had then asked hin
his opinion of such an investment; and havin:
understood the objects of the company, a
stated by Mr.. Train, / did not inquire furth
or on that point"
When denying another he says In the
same pamphlet:
"Mr. Ames, the only memorandum you eve
showed me was in 1S67-6S, when speaking It
ms of this proposed sale of stock, you fig
ured out on little piece of paper what yol
supposed would be realized from an invest
ment of $1,000, and. as / remember, yor
wrote down these figures:
LOCO
1000
400
2,400
as the amounts you expected TO realize"
/ ask all the honest men of the country t,
read these two statements and answer wheth
or General Garfield has preyaricated in hi
statements or not. Let honest Republican
who are so anxious about the education O.
tho Uorth ~ ha
example is set them when Garfield and Pat
terson, twin brothers in the Credit Mobiiiel
scandal, are held up by the Republican
party-one as candidate for the Presidency
and the other as the superintendent of edu
cation in New Hampshire!
In conclusion, General Garfield, admit
ting the Walpolian doctrine that s'ayer;
man has price, says:
''Ie there be citizen OF the United States
who is willing to believe that for 1929 l have
bartered away my good name and to falsehooo
have added perjury, these pages are not ad
dressed to him."
We are told that Esau sold his birthrighl
for mess of pottage. Great inconsistent.
cies Of character are sometimes found In
great men, especially when they assume The
role Of Christian statesmen. We have
sariptural authority for believing that there
are people who would strain at gnat and
swallow a camel, but the Police Gazette
shows that there are many men who prefer
the less hazardous practice of gobbling down
gnats when no one sees them to the more
dangerous effort of swallowing cameIs, at
which they may bs caught.
While society sometimes oyerlooks the
crimes of the swallowers of camels in amaze
ment at the audacity of the performance, it
neither forgiVes nor forgets the gob5lers of
gnats.
That General Garfield received money
from Cakes Ames under an agreement
which, at his option, might or might not
make him subscriber to Credit Moblisr,
he admits. That he kept this money nearly
two years and until he learned from MIR. j.
s. Black that trouble was coming about It..
be admits. See pamp., p. 8:
SIN the winter of 1S69-70 received the first
intimatinn I ever had of the real pature of the
between the Credit Mobilier com.
pany and the Pacific Railroad company. in 4
private conversation with the Hon. J. 8. Black,
Of Pennsylvania. Finding in the course of
hat conversation that he was familiar with the
history of the enterprise, I told him all knew
10 US the matter, and informed him of the Of
LcI tu6o uu0 pccu lnduc iuS. ne expressed the
,pinion that the managers of the Credit Mo-
oilier were attempting to defraud the Pacific
.ailroad company; and informed me that Mr..
ames was pretending to have sold stock to
members of Congress for the purpose of infiu-
'ncing their action in any legislation that
night arise on the subject.
Though had NJ ither done nor said any,
hing which placed me under any obligation to
axe the stock, ] at once informed Mr.. Ames
bat if he was still holding the offer open to
ne he need do SO no longer, for / would not
axe the stock. This did Immediately after
he conversation with Judge Black, which, &C.
ording to his own recollection as well as mine,
vas early in the winter of 1S69-70."
In the face Of this statement of facts can
here be any possible doubt of Mr.. Garfield's
uilt? Or can conclude this statement
etter than in his own words, which will
ecome the judgment of the peoples "For
member of Congress, knowing the facts,
} hold under advisement proposition to
ny this stock would be morally as wrong
8 to hold and receive the profits upon 1t.
il yeg morally wronO m Y,urabooa II u