Morning journal and courier., 1880-06-04

shall be cleared if there are any interruptions ! of this sort
 Mir. Logan-Birds that hutter are already killed. I am not speaking to the galleries, but to the honorable gentleman on the floor. MT. Henderson, in reply to MT: Logan, said he was glad to hear the sentiments of the man from Illinois. There must be no
 riding rough-shod over the rights of mem bers of this convention. (Applause.) The gentleman had asked why this haste. The speaker wanted to know why this delay. statement was made in the morning session that there was compact between the com mlttee on rules not to report. Why is this report not ready now? The ninth rule that MT. Logan opposed was the same in substance as that adopted by the National Convention four years ago. The thousands of people here wanted to proceed to business, and he insisted on his motion.
 Before the motion was put MT. Henderson shouted that he was informed that the com mlttee was ready to report this forenoon The Chair proceeded to put the question and the ayes and. nays had voted, when MT Conk- ling and Mir. Boutwell, of Massachusetts, both sprang to their feet. Mir. Boutwell, was rec ognized and asked whether the committee or the gentlemen representing it intended to
 make any different provisions than those already published. If it cannot he could but
 vote against the report, and ask whether the people Of the country are to be represented
 in this convention. J. D. White, of Ken
 lucky, said: ssI say for the gentlemen from
 Kentucky they are misrepresented by the gentleman from Iowa"
 Mir. Henderson made personal retort, but
 his voice was drowned by applause. There
 was great confusion and charges of misrepre-
 sentation, and some time was spent in restor-
 ing order.
 F Mr. Boutwell,, who had yielded the floor,
 thon 1o6 Ia pasl hicf frSov fro1r
 Iowa would allow word he would say it was
 never safe in public assembly to report pri-
 vate conversation. One particular thing he
 wanted to know was whether men claiming speech on the floor were to be limited to five minutes. He was waiting to hear whether the great questions regarding Illinois, Lou lslana, Kansas and Massachusetts were to be
 confined within five minute speeches. Forty five millions of people were waiting for the
 judgment of the convention, and this iudg- ment, whether it be for the citizen of Maine or for the hero of the war (applausel, will be enforced and established and ratified by the American people.
 General Harrison said If understand the question it is that the objection of the gentle man from Illinois has beenIbase on infor- nation that all debate on all questions is to be limited to five minutes, and that while the important question of the admission of con- testing delegates is under consideration I am not on the side of the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Logan, and may not agree with him on any other question, but do emphat- ically agree with him on this. Applause Five minutes is too short for so important a matter I also object to interminable argu- ment. Let us fix time-an appropriate tlme-in which representative men can be heard. We ought to be fair, and therefore I am opposed to the rule. I have had many pleasant visits to Chicago but this time I want to get away.
 MT. Henderson said the proposition of General Harrison is proper to be considered when we debate the report, but it is not be- fore the convention. We can trust ourselves to amend so as to do justice to all I desire to take no unfair advantage of any one. I will myself move to allow extended time on the report of the credentials committee, and every Iowa man will vote for it. Applause
 General Sharpe of New York, said: It is by accident that represent the committee minority. I have a report in my pocket ready to present when it comes upas agreed upon in committee. It is signed by represen- tatiyes of nine States, without which the nominee of the convention cannot be elected I resent the hint of this mornings session that my word cannot be taken without the indorsement of the distinguished gentleman from Ohio General Garfeld.) moved to amend that the committee on credentials re- port immediately. (Applause.)
 General Garfeld-The suggestion was made in committee and coneurred in without discussion that the report should not be sub mitted until after that on credentials There understanding that it could not be demanded by the convention at any time. It specially specified that the time may be ex- tended by the convention if these rules are now adopted and it should be agreed to give a longer time in debate on the credentials re- port. But that is question to be decided when the report comes up.
 AT I AL1-- knowledge which think every delegate must vote here" (Here he mounted the bench for the first time during the day and was cheered.) Some hours ago we took a recess. What was the purpose of this? It was to carry a reasonable purpose of the committee. It was that before such rules as these should obtain we should know of whom this convention is composed. Such was the unanimous conclusion of the committee and such the purpose of the adjournment from which no man dissented. Now it is said the credentials committee report that the con- mittee is ready to report on nearly every case in which contest has been made Let it report fully if ready, and if not let it make partial reports so far as it's work has been completed. While we are discussing the first installment the residue is got ready. Is that fair Is not that carrying our your purpose Ishall vote for an amendment unless something gives me reason for carrying out the intent O1 Iu0 1u0 COulIlGG06 IS SlGG1IS dI the Sherman House and can come here in 8 twinkling. If there is any reason why the committee should not come here I should like to hear it, and if there be no reason I say that it will cultivate good feeling to have it done.
 MT. Henderson-There seems to me to be good reasons The majority and minority of the committee on rules are both ready to re- port. The committee on credentials have three States to consider. They cannot com plete their report until morning and should not be interrupted. The gentlemen of the committee should also be present on this floor to sustain their report. The sooner we get more time for speech making the better off we shall be.
 General Sharpe-I demand the call of the roll. The Chair said the request was proper and ordered the roll called The clerk pro- ceeded to call the roll, the votes being ap- plauded. When Kentucky was reached and the chairman of that delegation stated that he was under instructions from his State con- vention to vote "A aye, John D. White, from Kentucky, rose to a point of order, saying the chairman of the delegation from Ken lucky sees proper to cast 24 aye votes, but I say to you that there are those in the delegation that desire to vote no. (Cheers.) We want every man to have free speech. (Cheers.) lucky is out of order. Does the gentleman from Kentucky. desire to have his vote changed?
 Mr. White-Yes. There are four negative votes in Kentucky.
 Chairman-The four votes will be recorded in the negative.
 The chairman of the Kentucky delegation rose and desired to speak, whereupon the Chair said no gentleman had right to the floor except to change his vote if it has been improperly reported. The chairman of the Kentucky delegation rose again to speak, but was declared out>of order. The Michigan vote was announced as one aye and twenty nays The chairman of the delegation said that one of the delegates was member of the con- mittee on credentials and asked if he had right to cast his vote. No ruling was made by the Chair. When New York was reached Mir. Conklng announced the vote as 47 ayes and 23 nays Judge Robertson said this was a cfoEa hot oof& &ha 7a1a oh