National Republican., 1880-11-12

some private conversation. when Hart came in
and said, Walton has told me all about H. un.
derstand IL" when we were leaving Cumberland
Birmingham held out his hand and said to me-
| Goodbye, Harry" and looked up into Walton's
| face, as much as 10 say II know all aboutit;'
coming on the train said to. Walton, Who
! IS going 70 pay you this money! he said, THE
! 1ruh VIII pay You through me-" 50 after We ar
rived there they examined me.
Q.-Who examined you2 A.-Louis POST this
| Birmingham told me to nuke up story about the
worklngmens union; That's what you represent
and that's all you've got to do;' and when got on
the stand told them about milcs; after that
went to supper; before went 70 supper Hart snid,
| "llave you got any changer said mo- he said,
Here you had better take this" aud he gave me
Sl0; he first offered me sa the uext day being sun
day said wanted 70 get clean shirt,
and then he gave me $40; we went
to supper and man went with me; they
called him "Box;'his name is Ellen; we weat with
him to supper aud he never left me While have
been here; he left with mo aud never let me 20
out ofhis Aght when we came from supper Hart
said to Box, You had better take him 70 Tony
| Pastors theatre and told some man there 10
write a letter-who tho man was I do not know. 1
| have only seen him once-aud that letter was
| given TO Box. and we went to Tony Pastors and
he offered Il there at the theatre; We received two
| tickets and went In; Hart told 10 TO come
back soon, that Howe would wantto scc me; we
came back after the first part of the variety before
the last drama or whatever II wa7 aud there was
cross.questionod by Howe about the ~ iles and he
said that would DO he said, That's al you viii
Q.-How many times have you been nj the 7rirh
Office? a. 1 have been there all the ttnc; might
| or to the hotel, or to go TO bed.
Q..,-Did you so to the democratic hetdquarters9
A.-NO, sir.
Odd you say to Box at any time that your
name was not Lindsey Al did not.
Q.-Dld you have any conversation with any Que
In regard to that for which you came on here ?
A-No one at ali; MIR. Hart said TO me, II know
your name is not Lindsey he said, "Walton
knows your name he heard 1t there in Cumber.
Hand"
Q.-Thls Walton said that you were going TO get
this money through the Trtthf Although the
Truth
Q.--Then when you made statement yesterday
that your name was Lindsey. you knew ut the
time that II was untrue? Ayes sir, -. =.
els that all the statement that you want to
make; have you told us all IN regard to this trans
action that you desire to state? AL desire to
state it all; Mr. Hart told me that Walton told him
all about this, and he said. "1 will pay you, and
damn i, vii! pay you double 70 put him IN
hail." they asked me f knew where Main street
was IN Lynn; ! said mo; know where tho main
street is" and Post and Hart said, That's just the
way for you to answer in court" Mr.. Post said to
me. "lf they ASK you any Questions @ a@ont
about about this this o'" secret organization Just tell
tell them you are bound by oath not to dvuge any
secrets; ifthey ask you any, questions answer them
Garfield and nut him on the standY and Howe
said, II wish they would" when came did not
if had known that l would not have come; |
was out of work and did not have any money;
Hart asked me how would like TO have job IN
New. York; told MIN would like livery much,
that now until this is over"
Q.-You never lived in Cumberland, did you
A-No, sir. 1870.
Q.-z-b99 you knowa person by the name of Will
Q.-You came to Cumberland through Birming
ham? A.-No, through Buck O'Ne who lives in
Cumberland and keeps saloon thore
Q-Who's Blrmngham2 A.-Hcs police
Q.-Whats his full manner Al don't know;
they call him some kind Of nickname.
Q.-llow did YOU know Buck O'Nel? Al was
IurnDprinu1
fore ! went up thore, the time Of the Baltimore
centennial and the time Of the national fair at
down to Washington and saw the fair, aud also the
Baltimore centennial, and while in Washington
came to SEQ me, as was acquainted with both OF
them.
Q-when you refused the other day to state the
name of your emplovers and CSked for an oppor-
tunity to advise with counsel, that was granted
you, and then came back and said William IL
Thompson, did you know any such man rs Will
lam II. Thompson? A.-No sir.
Q.--.llow did you come to suggest the name OF
William ii. Thompson? A,-That was the first
that came to my mind.
Q.-WhercGbout5 did you go In the Truth oNlcc
Al sat IN the news room.
$40 from this Walton in Cumberland when we got
on the train; after arrived hero | received go
o,-Is that all you had? A,-That,s all had.
| Q.-WhO told you the story which you were TO
study this letter what was published and told me
that belonged to the workngmen's union.
Q-Who told you II was necessary TO say, among
other things, that You belonged TO Lynn, Muss.?
A.--No one; only from the affidavit saw printed
I'm the paper; they only told me to swear TO this
affidavit that was made out | think twas this
man Walton asked me that the first time saw
that affidavit was after leaving Cumberland In the
cars
Q-Did you have any conversation with any one
here on your arrival In regard to that affidavit or
aid any one nsk you If you had read an giidayit
Al think 1t was Howe asked me IL had made
1t, and said yes.
Q-You had not made It? A.-No, sir.
O-DO YOU know who was the man who made
, that nni davlt? Al do not no, sir
Q.-Where do your parents live? Al have no
, parents.
Q.--IIGve you any brothers aud sisters? Ayes
sir One of my brothers Is In Washington, John
O'Bren. He is printer in the government print
m y.ohicG ! veauother one numed Patrick. lie
lives at the Metropolitan hotel in Washington as
carpenter and also at the National theatre as scene
shifUr. / have two sisters,
I Q.-were you ever in Lynn, Mass? A-Neyor
} in my life
Odd You ever In your lifetime see person
: by the name Of II. l., Morey2 A-No, sir.
Odd you ever see tho original MoTey letter
until IL was shown you in court? A,-No, sir.
Odd you ever hear of tho Morey Garfield let
ter until you saw printed copy of II after you left
Cumberland TO come to New YORK? A--No, Sir
JAMES O'BRIEN,
Taken before me November 10, 1850,
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