, 1880-10-05
PRESIDENTIAL.
Gen. Grant Expresses His Hon
est Opinion About Gen.
Hancock,
Designating Him as a Man
Crazed with Presidential
Ambition,
Who Has Had This Particular
Bee in His Bonnet Ever
Since 1864.
The. General Gives the Inside His
tory Of the Celebrated Or
der No, 40,
Showing How Hancock Tried
to Undo the Reconstruct
ton Policy.
Grants Private Reasons for De-
string the Nomination
Last Spring.
Senator Conl1ting Makes q Strong
Speech to tho IiicIln1oud,
Ind, People,
While Schurz and Storrs Deliver
Stirring Addresses at
Toledo, O.
4 Rousing Meeting Of Business Men In
philadelphia Last Might.
Decided Republican Gains in the Con.
neoticut Town Elections Yes
tcrdav,
While Schurz and Storrs Deliver
Stirring Addresses at
Toledo, O.
Decided Republican Gains in the Con.
necticut Town Elections Yes
tcrday.


AN INTERVIEW WITH THE EX-r,EsIDEST.
spselai Dtspateh to TIE chieaoo Trtbdne.
CINCINNATI, O., Oct. 1.-The Gazette Will
print tomorrow tho report VI MI Interview
between tt,a Rev. c. II. Fowler, u. D., asd
Nrant, which gives sulAe startling poi1lts 1T
connection with the Inside history Of l1an-
cnck's Order No. a. Ge,,. Grant talked freely
II, Dr. Fowler, md after the Interview give
his written cU,tscnt to dts publication under
certain restrictions rs IL ttne. The cotyer-
sutton took place III Grants library ut Galena
oll tho 1tst OF September. Speaking OF llan-
cock, the ex-Pres1ent shf1: "Dowii to laH
lIe scell!ed like Il mnr ambitious TO 10 Ills
duty Ms III officer. hut III 1861,
WHEN M'cLELLAS WAS NOMINATED.
I1nncock received ono vote, aid that greatly
excited md changed him. lie was 50 de-
lighted that he smiled all over. 1t crazetl
him. Before that We got on well. After that
he would hardly speak to me. was work.
Ing to enforce the lnws Of Congress, and lie
WIS working fur tho Presidency. Perllnps
any way, he hardly spule to lit. II WIS 0ll
my nomination that lle WIS madc Il Brlg1adier
IN tho regular ar1ny, when was made Geli-
eral. Stu1lt0n told me 1t was
A COMPLIMENT TO ME-,
md thnt could nlArle tho lslei tn fiji tho W.
cni,cies In the misunderstanding md
1[ajor-Gcnernfships caused bymy promotion.
nominated hlM for tho vacant Sta}or-Gc'i-
cralshlp In the regular army. lie acknowi-
cdgetl 1t nunfnlly. lie was a very fair curps
commander, but wns ueyer thought Ut fur
any Ercat p1ace. When tile Army OF the
Potomac was hunting fur commander 1t
tools almost everybody, a!ltt even ca'lle over
Into tic West fur officers. hut no nl'o ever
even suggested Hancock fur tic psace. After
HE RECEIVED THAT VOTE IN 1sol
he Ind tho bee III his bonnet uEld shaped
everything to gain Democratic aml Southern
fayor. lle las watched. a1M pIanncd. md
waited, till at Inst l!o has rccc1ycu the Demo-
crntir nomination."
"Geuerul, 10 you think ho Is In sympathy
with the SoutlI:"
"Ilc Is crazy to be President lie Is ambl-
tlous. vain. aud weak. They will easily COLI
| tral itlll."
"Do you think, General, that his celebrated
| Order No. 10 represents tho direction OF ILLS
sylnputhles?"
">yuI!. 1 will give YOU tho true inner his
tory of Order M. 10. Congress wus
STRIVING 10 PREVENT ANDREW JOHNSON
froln ullu0ing tho Reconstruction lnws.
| Whenever Congress passed law Johnson
bent his c1lurgies to tlefeAt Its enforcement,
anil would t,l.l ptctexts to dodge r0,lnd 1t.
Then Congress- would l'ass nnother Inv to
hedge him up there. SO 1t went OH till
! Congress ttl.l taken froul lin all control 0t
tlIe Generals commanding the heven districts
Ut tI,u Sulitl EXCEPT tbs p,wDr to recall tlien,
nlnl nppulnt 0ttlers In THUR parv. TIlcso
commanders could remove any clyil Uitlcer
Ut any gr,ltle, Judge Ur Governor. When I
WIS male tienerAl md
THEY WE'RE DETERMINING sGY POWERS
anu duties, they gaye the Gcleral--by ncci-
dent, l tlIink, or without sceing all 1t tn.
Observation-Disclosures power with these district
commanders, rlll4, rs was scnfor, 1t gnyo nle
authority. Ge,,. Sheridan WIS sent to tho
Department 1T lonstana mla Toxas, 1le IL
very shrpwtl 4lld very kccn. lIe kept his eyes
open, iruruiug rapidly the nIe,l WIN were
not worthy to occupy their places, a1l4
discovering competent and worthy
men t0 put III their paces
Tho Legislature ut Louisiana passed law
| authorizing the lssuD Ut $7,000.000 OF leyee
tIoneu THUR Balu on
TilEiN MINIMIZING TO TIE STATE
not less tl,un 70 per cent OF their face. The
Governor atlu tErce Commissioners wDFa to
place the bonds OH thoMlarket; but they Soon
fuulnt that tlle bouts would not brlnE more
than 10 per cunt rn uyota tho Inv they lA'
vented the ptnn Of borrowing money ard
using thu bonds as collateral. Thsy could
borrow about II or IS por cent OF tho faco OF
tile bonds. Just ut this tuncture, to prevent
these n,sll from do1ruudlng the 6tate, Gen.
Took orr rux ,1E:Ana or THE GOVERNOR
and Commissioners so quick that they did moi
know what allied them, and appointed good
mon III tile!r place. For sonlo reason, the re-
moved were worry anxious to DO reappolnted'
They employed Neycrdy johnson alld anoth
or lawyer to work for uleln, aRreelag to IN,
them &::50, 900 Il they were rclnstatod. Thu
! IL u great deal Of money for four nlen to pa,
for positions, unless there Ii some speclA
guln III tho case. lieyordy johnson can,o Il