Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1880-05-11
FORTY-SIXTH CONGRESS.
(Second Session.
The Senate.

WASHINGTON, May 10. President pro tenn.
Thurman laid before the Senate communi-
cation from the secretary of the interior, stat
ing his estimates of March 5, 1880, for def
cheney for arrears and army and navy pensions
had not been found sufficient, and transmitting
increased estimates.
Senator Bayard said, if possible, he would
call the Eaton tariff commission bin up in the
morning hour tomorrow.
Senator Beck wished it understood the report
of the commission was not unanimous. He
would oppose the bill and advocate that of
Senator Garland. He didn't want Congress to
put it's business ito the hands of outsiders, es-
pecially as it appeared in this case that the
petitions for the bill were all on one side
machine petitions.
Senator Eaton denied the petitions were ma
chine petitions, one especially representing
$500 OO0, 600 of capital in cotton manufactur-
ing, which represented every shade of opinion
on the tariff. The Garland BILL he would re-
mind the Senator from Kentucky, Beck, in
cluded three outsiders, together with three
Representatives and three Senators.
Senator Burnside moved to postpone the
calendar aud consider the House joint resou-
ton relative to extending the national survey
into the States.
Een0tOr COckrell OOJSCbeu duu UOpeu uebG
would now be made as to whether the calendar
should be considered and every one given an
equal chance, or whether there should be a
grab for precedence every day by senators iuA
terested in special bills. The motion was
agreed to; yeas, "a; nays, 20. The joint reso-
lation was therefore taken up. 1t provides
that the national survey authorized by the SUM-
dry civil act of 1878, may be extended into the
States. The Senate committee on apprepria-
tions propose to amend so as to provide it may
be extended into the respective States when re-
quested by the authorities thereof.
Pending debate, the morning hour expired
and Mr. Hoar spoke in opposition to the Kel-
logg resolution.
Senator Hoar discussed the legal aspects of
the case, but said he could not forbear some re-
ply to the personal charges made on the other
side. The voice proposed to be stifled here
was the last voice from State lately in rebel
tion, which represents their loyalty. 1t was
the voice of one who had seen honorable mill
tary service in the cause of the republic, under
a commission signed by Abraham Lincoln. As
governor of Louisiana, he had found her credit
weak and left it strong. He found her bonds
selling at 25 cents on the dollar and left them
at rs cents. He found her treasury empty,
he left in it a surplus. He found the State tax
S25, 500, 900 and left it at $l4, 100000. He did
not add dollar to her debt. His Democratic
successor expended the surplus he left in the
treasury to the credit of the interest fund in
payment of one installment of interest and
then repudiated the debt.
Senator Hoar said the logic of the Senator
from Georgia (HilD, and those who fought
with him. was that when the people of any
state accomplish by violence and fraud a
change in their State government, this action
has the retroactive effect of unseating the Sena-
tor from that State, and undoing the deliberate
Judgment of the Senate. If the Judgment of
fba 1fo ha
mere permission to take the oath without
question can have no binding force whatever,
and there is no guarantee to seat.
Senator Hill Georgia. interrupted to state
that the Senator from Massachusetts was mis-
taken in suppcsing that any one on the Demo-
cratic side held that revolution III State re-
troacted to unSeat q Senator. The controversy
relative to the Packard Legislature was whether
it was ever constitutional, and the majority
SAYS that the State itself had settled that con-
troversy by deciding that the Packard legisla-
ture never was legal legislature.
Senator Hoar-Exactly. The two legislatures
assembled in January, and the Packard legis-
lature acted il January, and the question of
validity and the effect of its action were essen
tial to the support of Kelloggs title to his seat.
Another legislature met in March after the
Senate met, and they undertook to elect Spot
ford and one portion of the committee said
the Senate must determine which legislature
in March had a rightful title, and proceeded to
do it.. The Senator from Georgia (HilD said
no. The State by its subsequent action plac-
ing Nichols legislature in, however, has set
tied that question, and the effect of that sub
sequeut action reacts for the government of
the Senate. There is no escape from the logic
of that proposition, nor from its revolutionary
consequence.
Senator Hoar concluded by saying that if it
became necessary hereafter, the challenge of
the Senator from Louisiana, Jonas, to investl-
gate the means by which he and certain of his
colleagues obtained their seats, might be ac-
cepted and if so, the country would hardly be
much reused by their charge that their oppon-
ents were Haunting the bloody shirt, if it be-
came apparent that the garment waved by
them was not only bloody but stolen.
Senator Hill, (Georgia) took the floor, but
preferring not to begin speaking at the late
hour yielded it to other Senators until to-mor-
row. The report of the conference committee
on the di plomatic and consular appropriation
bill was presented by Senator Eaton and adopt
ed. After an executive session adjourned.