New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1880-06-18

sbou,d saw since Seymour has withdrawn, that
ifit were not for the fear that Tammany would re-
fuse to support Mr.. Tilden, he would be nominatod'
If he desires the candidacy for himself.
Next in order the roll of Democratic Candidates
are the Ohio men, Thurman and Payne. There is
one argument that has been frequently urged
AGAINST the nomination Of any Ohio man since Cen
eral Garfield was placed at the head of the RepnD
lean ticket Ohio, with almost any other Republl-
can candidate, would have been counted as
a doubtful State by the Democrats ana
they would have sought, by their own noih-
ination, to have strengthened themselves III
that State with the hope of carrying u III
October General GaIfolG's nomination makes
Ohio almost as surely Republican rs Iowa. Inc
Democrats concede tuls generally ana the oi''S u'
ference of opinion that exists relates to the SIZE Oh
.h. PonuhIicon majority that Ohio will give. But
slrewd Democrats say: " 1t would be rather dis
coura0inp opening for the campaign to nave Maine
and Ohio the two States which hold elections pc
fore November, go Republican, as Oregon mas al
raady gone and it would be almost fatal TO Demo
cratic candidate from Ohio to have his own state
renudiate him month before the final decision Is
to be made" ..
One Democratic statesman put it in tins way
"We can't afford to put all the Democratic eggs
into the Ohio basket and that we shall 90 II VIC
nominate an Ohio man at CINCINNATI
Their ar. other obstacles to Senator Thnrmans
nominatio,. He did not carry the State of OHIO
wear ago. when there was less at stake than there Is
now and his successful competitor III that strnR-
ole was General Garfield. His record on me cur
rency question has been such as TO make MN "h
nonnlar bath with hard money Democrats Ill the
East and the ultra Greenhackers in the West.
Mr.. Henry b. Paynes strength lies chiefly III the
suppositon that he, too. has BARREL ana III .ho
suspicion flor nobody seems to know anything
lIv fall hCi tn IlltlcMS
nolitical fortune. Even with the aid of the states
man Of Gramercy Park, however. he would still he
weak candidate before the Convention, on account
of the general objections 60 all Ohio men mentioned
above.
SOUTHERN AND WESTERN MEN.
Senator Bayard stands next. " lie WONT no. say
n score of Democrats at once. 1t would oe UNSAFE
to nominate Southern man, whose sympathy WIN
the Confederacy was net we'll cOncriFd III lne
breaking out of the war, against Union s"iuler
with record like that of General Garfield ana 10
present for the suirages of the Democrats VI tne
West n man who refused to report the Warner Sill
yer bill to the Senate" Bayard has only small
State at his back and that one certainly Demo-
cratic. >, 49, - - 1I,iol-a
and Senator Mcdonald will stand M. NrltheroI
these men has much of boom IN hls favor; IN
diana is doubtful State, claimed by the Demo-
Gratis That might be an argument i'll favor OF the
enough to give either much pTonlnenGe as canu,-
date remains t0 be seen. Neither would Or paTticu-
larly strong in New-YOrk, and that IS the State
which the Democrats desire to provide CANDIDATE
for. ,,
Judge DAVID Davis, General John NJ. Palmer ana
RepreseDtative Morrison. 1t was sorry day for
Judge Davis when General Grant was defeated at
Chicago. If the ex President had been nominated
The "fh,rd party " in the Senate would have had
claims based on his supposed abtyto carry ILLINOIS
against thlrd-term candidate, ami IT would nave
been hard tor a Democratic National convention
TO ignore them. AS it Is, his 'boom" has almost
ceased 10 be heard. Both General Palmer and Will
lam r. Morrison were badly crippled i'll the ILL
nos State Convention, which barely escaTed in;
structug its delegates to vote for Seymour General
Palmer is 100 independent to make successful
Democratic candidate, and MI MOrrlSon mas not
made cousI icuOus success IN any important posi-
ton which he has filed in the House. He may also
be counted as u candidate with remote chances oI
being g struck by lightning"
CHANCRs OF TIE DARK HORSES.
Senator Randolph aud Joel Parker are both I'M
derstood 20 he willing. The delegation from New
Jersey Is uninstructed and ITS preferences are un-
known. but it is SAID by knowing Democrats to be
in favor of Parker If it presents candidate Of its
own Senator Randolph's friends in Washington
have aided his q" boom" with great care but IN
spite of all their patience 1t Is sickIy affair with
little chance OF surviving the trials 81 Cnrinhat.i
Pennsylvania will send Two candldatcS To- the
Convention in the persons OF Speaker IA ;Gdll anu
General Hancock. The formers chanc's he solely
IN the possible friendship OF Mr. IIdcn, W''"-e urn
snpporfe he is. There has been some conjecture
that If AIr Iiden should conclude that he does not
care S be n,s s%m@"a' 70 h 1he IMAM ne W W
has never failed hm when he, wa'ted
a friend at Washington. Mr.. Randall cannot
be said to be prominent " candIdlt", but he
NAV be brought out as dark house" His high
tariff record viii make INN dI>tasteful TO majoritv
of his party. General Ilincock would prr'ably
have been mich stronger III HE Cincinnati 'nvcn-
ton If General Grant had been the Re- uDHcan
nominee lie has some pledged deirGatr' AMI Is
looked upon with favor by many Oh the Southern
Judge Field was more talked of few weeks ago.
when some of his friends were attempting t" secure
delegates tor him in virginia aud other states
than now. The report that the Pacific
Coast delegates Will moi urge his nomination,
and the belief that Mr. Til'.cn viii mo- consent
that "a member of the Field tamlly shall carry of
the prize will probably dispose of his CLAIMS There
TnaG ra o S0 the b Gg IS "f % Of C s T
Potter and half score OF others, whose names
have been mentioned, but VINO cannot he said 10
have had BOOM. The winning man may, after AL
The conclusion which every sane man who looks
this list must come to- IS that nobody cab guess
who will be nominated at Cincinnati.
Mr. Tliden is more likely to have something to
say about il than any other man. Y. l.. W.
STARRING FOR The SCENE OF STRIFE
THs MARSIALs AND GENERALS GO BEFORE AND
THE FIGHTING MRN ARE TO FoLLOw-AN IN
TERE>TING TALK WITH JOHN KELLY-1ILDEN'S
SUPPORTERS IN THE DARK
The railway trains took away from this city yes
terday many leading Democrats bound for the Gin
cinnati Convention. BY the Hudson River Rail-
road at 1890 a. m. John Kelly, Augustus Schell,
August Belmont. William H. Travers, Orlando Is.
Potter, John Hunter and John Il. Mooney departed.
The Erie Railway tram at a. m. had on board ex-
Secretary OF State Nelson and other Democrats who
advocate the nomination of Hugh J. Jewett for
President, while the train at p. Ill. carried west
ward Abram S. Hewitt and most of the Tilden dele
gates to the Convention living in this city.
The yellow drawing-rOOm and sleeping car Stella
of the Lake Shore and Michigan Southern Rail-
road, known also as Augustus Schells private car,
was occupied by Mr.. Kelly and his party at the
Grand Central Depot MIR. Kelly on arriving
found the tables IN his room in the car covered