The Salt Lake herald. [volume] (Salt Lake City [Utah]) 1870-1909, 1880-12-21
LATEST TELEGRAMS.
FORTY-SIXTH CONGRESS.
LAST SESSION.
SENATE


Washington, 20.-The Senate re
considered the vote disagreeing to III
House adjournment resolution, YES
terday, yeas 81, nays, q. There va
a discussion on Edmunds' amend
ment to make therecsss from Decem
Der 23d to Janusry Sd. The last IesO
luton was agreed to, SO to &c.
The Senate bill rounding the 8 pc
cent. District of Columbia certificate
into 6fy.yesr 365 per cent. bonds
was amended making the rate 8 pc
cent, and passed. The amount j
1891, 600.
The Vice-President submitted {
communication from the secretary o
war in response to the resolution OF
fered by Logan, with copies OF Iht
correspondence between Genera
Sohofeld and Major Gardner. relative
to the board of officers 10 the inquiry
of the case of titz John Porter; slsC
from the secretary Of the treasury &
recommendation for an appropriation
OF $40, 900 for publishing centennial
map of the United States and tht
territories,
On motion OF Davis, his bill to re-
lieYe the United States treasurer from
the amount of $2S, 600, 600 charged tC
him on the treasury books and
deposited with the several states un.
der the act OF 1886 was taken up. He
said this money would never be called
for by the United States as it never
had been in times of great need. Ii
vas inconvenient to carry it on the
books.
Ingalls, said the convenience of the
boOkkeepers was nothing compared
to the injustice OF giving $28, 100000
to older states at the expense of those
which we're admitted since 1895 II
was the original contract that the
money should slwsys be subject to
call by the United States.
Garland believed the debt Was out
lawed.
Krkwood said that the twenty
eight states interested were pooling
to secure this S2S, 1000. coo. He now
offered, as a second section of this
bill, the substance of the 5 per cent
bill, allowing the various states 5 per
cent on the value of lands granted
within their limit by military county
warrants.
Thurman thought the per cent
bill should stand on It's own merits
He objected to government giving
away $4,000 COO to the states.
1t was tovzrnment money; it
Is cur duty TO pay as fast
as possible our 100000 600 in
debtedness; every dollar of the 500,
600. 900 or $500, 000, 600 due next year
could be paid of In ten years with out
unduly burdeping people. Yet it is
proposed to extend it for forty or
fifty years and at the same time give
away S28.000,000. Give away the
public land, and increase the expen-
ditures as We we're doing, and the
inevitable result OF this policy is to
create an irTeducable public debt,
to make our debt like the British
consols-a perpetual annuity. He
regarded q perpetual debt as
IS one OF the greatest crimes that
could be Inflicted upon a nation. He
opposed this bill as part of system of
legislation tending to bring On this
misfortune.
COnkling thought Thurman's argu
ment vitisted, like many other good
arguments, by the incorrectness OF
his premises. In 1886 there was q
surplus in the treasury, raised by
taxes upon the population then exist
ing The surplus was deposited with
the states then existing, subject to
call by government. 1t was call
loan. Subsequently the quslity of a
call loan was taken from it by act OF
Congress, TO the effect that the money
should never be called for except by
act OF Congress and on due notice.
The doctrine OF estoppel warranted
the assumption that when govern
ment, in times OF great. need of
money, did not apply for this money,
it, by this and various actions, pro-
duced the impression that it was not
considered as part of the assets of
government. 1t was estopped from
claiming the money after forty years
had passed, and the states had, with
the knowledge of government, ap-
piled the money to various purposes
On resumption, it was considered as
a gift. COnklins thought the pa st
had sufficiently demonstrated that
the people, the resources and the in.
tegrity OF the country would make
impossible any failure to pay the
public debt.
Blaine regarded the act of 1886 as
great folly, resulting from the ex-
treme theory that a surplus of rev.
enue mutt be divided among the
whole population. To recall the
money now would be unjust, not only
because of the lapse of time and
probable outlawry of the claim, but
also because the people who got the
money would not be the ones called
on to return the money. Men who
then lived in benefited states had
largely emigrated. The Sen ator from
Oregon (Grover) would be called upon
to return the share he got as a citizen
of Maine, in which state the money
was toolishly divided per capita among
the population. Blaine was not
citizen of Maine at that time, but he
would have to pay his share of money
now IS a citizen of another state, No
way of returning the money could be
found. The debt OF former genera
ton should not be placed on this gen.
Grafton.
Thurman said that doctrine was
uutensble. There was no bar of i'm
i'ation to this debt. The money was
by law returnable on demand.
Debate suspended, and the consular
appropriation bill was referred TO the
committee on appropriations.
Adjourned.
ROUSE.
Washington, 20. Dunn introduced
joint resolution that the lands in
Indian Territory, 10 which the Indian