Morning journal and courier., 1880-02-13

and he did not see any good reason why it should be regarded as 8 political measure.
 MT. Thurman responded that he was glad the Senator from Illinois had made this asser- tion. He (Thurman) )could, when anyone would say to him that 1t was rebel measure, read the explanation of the Senator from Illinois, and that would shut him up.
 Mir. Logan-Not shut me up.
 Mir. Thurman-Ohi the Senator mtsunder- stands me. didn't mean to shut the Senator up. couldn't do that.
 Pending consideration of the bill the Senate at 2:14 went into executive session and at 4:oS adjourned till Monday.
 HoUsE.-The morning hour expired pend ing consideration of the bill for the removal of causes from State courts, and the House then went into committee on the rules. A political discussion followed on the amend ment to rule 21, to prevent legislation on the appropriation bills. MT. Conger opened the debate by charging that the Southern mem- bers who framed this rule went back on their own record, because the Confederate Con- gress had adopted similar rule. He also ac- cused Speaker Randall of leading the Confed- crates in this matter.
 MT. Randall denied that there was any such clause in the constitution of the Oonfederacy. All it did was to authorize the President to veto any feature in the bill.
 The rule which prohibited legislation unless 1t reduced expenditures was advocated by Messrs Goode of Virginia, Springer of nli- nois, Cox of New York. Randall of Pennsyl- vania, McMahon of Ohio, Blount of Georgia and others, all of whom argued that it had saved millions of money to the Treasury be- cause 1t retrenched expenses and should be preserved. The Republicans generally op- posed the rule and they were aided in their opposition by all the Greenbackers and by Messrs- Speer of Georgia, Whitthorne of Ten nesee, Miles of Iowa, and Howe of Alabama on the Democratic side.
 Mir. Speer offered an amendment to contine legislation on appropriation bills to the re- duction of the amounts of appropriations, and made speech in which he contended that the rule was unjust to the Senate and Ex- ecutive.
 MT. Mills declared that it had done much evil and was not in the interest of the people.
 The defection of the Democratic caucus caused good deal of excitement on that side Of the chamber because it was hoped that the party would stand as 8 unit. The Demo crats generally claimed that extravaganza would allow abrogation. On tbe other hand it was claimed by the Republicans that the rule had injured the Democracy in conse- quence of their course at the extra session, when they put riders on the appropriation bills. Messrs. Goode and Springer insisted that it was perfectly just to repeal obnoxious laws by means of a rider when it could not be done by direct legislation.
 A vote was finally taken on the substitute offered by Mir. Garfield, that it should be in order to strike out any sum of money and in- sert less sum. This was rejected by 8 tie vote of 121 to 121.
 Mir. Warner, of Ohio, then offered an amendment that it should be in order to re- duce expenditures provided for by the exist ing law and covered by the pending bill, but that it should not change other exiating laws. This was amended by striking out the word expenditures" and inserting "amounts of and in that form 1t was adopted.
 Pending consideration of MT. Speer's amendment and one offered by Mr. Lowe, of Alabama, to prevent partisan legislation, the House at 4:05 adjourned.