The Portland daily press., 1880-03-18
Fogg on Garcelon.
HE ACCUSES THE GOVERNOR OF
TESTIFYING FALSELY.
Thinks He Must Have Softening of the
Brain.
Lewiston Journal.l


Tuesday forenoon a journal reporter called
on Hon. F. M. Fogg. He found that gentle
man in the Chronicle sanctum Numerous
highly-colored and uncomplimentary valen-
tines, which the ex-Councillor received on st.
Valentine day, were tastefully arranged on
the walls in conspicuous positions. The Coun-
cillor was in his usual affable mood and cor
daily asked the reporter to take seat.
"Have you Tread Garcelon's testimony"
asked the reporter.
II have" replied Mr.. Fogg. Sawyer and
Garcelon backed down, didn't they? They
won't get me there, unless they take me by
won't walk
"What do you think of DIR. Garcelon's ac-
missions, in his testimony" asked the repor-
ter.
where Garcelon acknowledges that cor
rections have been made, 1 think that from
his own knowledge, he should truthfully testi-
fy that the corrections must have been made
after the returns Vent out of the hands of the
Governor and Council, or since JAN It'll. If
the corrections were made before that time, a
conspiracy existed there. of which I had no
knowledge" said Mr.. Fogg.
why didn't he say as much, them"
1T appears to me from Garcelon's testimony
that he is more interested in helping Mr.. Hale
than he is in helping. himself 1t will do no
Fogg, turning to Col Blood, who stood at his
desk with his pen in hand.
THAT would be 10 gical conclusion" re-
piled the Colonel.
Are you aware that any corrections were
made, Mr.. Fogg?" asked the reporter.
81 shall publish an affidavit that the returns
were not, to my knowledge, corrected in any
way"
"How about the Fairfield return"
"Garcelon and Councillor Brown had the
handling OF that. 1t is their case, an don't
Fairfield returns and am positive that there
was no slip OF paper on it then. | can't see
into it. think that the words, Sept. 25th,
must have been put on since.''
Mr.. Fogg continued: 81 don't see how any
charge OF changing returns can attach to the
late Governor and Council If Mr. Sawyer's
testimony was true, the returns have been in
the hands of Capt. Black, DIR. Martin, John
Benson. Jr., Hale's committee and Davis
crew. We know That they went from our
hands into the hands of the fusion committee
al! right. If the returns have been corrected,
the late Governor and Council will make aft
davits that they didn't do it. 1 have written
to the other members of the Council about
making such affidavits.''
did Gov. Garcelon sign Mr.. Piper's certi-
icate?"
"He did,
did Gov. Garcelon know of and conse mt to
the issuance OF certificate to Mr.. Pper?"
The town of E. Livermore was thrown out
with Garcelon's full knowledge. The town
would have been counted had it not turned
out that there were no legal records. The GER
tificate was issued to Mr.. Piper with Garce-
Ions full knowledge, consent and approval"
Garcelon's testimony on this point was as
follows. decided that the vote of East Liv-
ermore should be coutited and Hiram w.
Briggs should have the certificate as County
Commissioner of Androscoggin, and if Mr..
Piper received it it was contrary to my direc-
tions.
''Why Them asked the reporter, ssshould
Garcelon have testified to the contrary"
"All the way l can account for it is that
Garcelon must be suffering from softening of
the brain," replied the ex-Councillor. ''The
only hope have, is that Garcelon's testimony
has been incorrectly reported. If it is, think
that they must have served him as they did the
clerk of Somerville-got him drunk
Hasn't the Ex-Governor virtually charged
his Council with deceiving him?''
II see the point that Garcelon wishes to
make. He has not backbone enough. He
intends to throw the whole burden of defence
on the shoulders of the Council
II suppose they are equal to it, intimated
the reporter.
fWell, 1 can't say as to that. But by gosh,
III hold up my end, if die.''
Mr. Fogg then turned inquisitor and asked
the reporter If he knew what statement Coun-
ciilor Moody had made, as rumored.
Inc reporter was not informed.
II know Moody too well. He'd better not
open his batteries, or can spoil him. know,
for one thing, that he writes his letters on
Kittery Navy Yard paper. Why does the
Duke of York do this?" remarked Mr.. Fogg,
sarcastically.
wasn't in it, he continued II was not one
of Garcelon's advisers. Garcelon's principal
advisers were outside the Council was a
Greenbacker and they didn't come to me much
Gov. Garcelon and Councillors Brown and
half as much to say about It as he's credited
for. He is the best abused man in the State
They pitch into him simply because he was the
ablest Democrat in the State. If they want
Greenbacker to abuse, they pitch into Fogg
Twas the seventh man in the Council. I
could therefore defeat or put through any
measure saw fit, but L didn't take the lead,
although it is charged to me. It's no use to
talk, the Council could take no action without
the sanction of Governor Garcelon."
"Do you think that the Ex-Governor has
improved his position by testifying?'
mo, think he's hurt it. He ought never
to have gone down there. 1t was his third
great blunder. His first blunder was in ask
ing the opinion of the court; his second was in
placing Chamberlain where he did; and his
third was in going before Hales committee
DO you think that Garcelon has acted
squarely?"
~ think he has done as well as he knows
SMILE 81 hoped that Garcelon would hold
out, and that they would arrest him and the
seven councillors, and put them in Jail. Had
they done this, there wouldn't have been a
jail in the state strong enough to hold them,
unless they called out the militia!''
lin conclusion, Mr.. Fogg, do you think that
the Greenbackers and Democrats will fuse
next fall?
Fuse? They can't! Fusion is suicide 1
have always fought against Fusion, and have
grown fat on it. When 1 commenced I
weighed 100 pounds, and to-day 1 weigh ITO.
guess can stand it''