Sacramento daily record-union. [volume] (Sacramento [Calif.]) 1875-1891, 1880-02-27

drive them all out II the country. sen cannot allow
their companies to be taxed in this way. While te
wanted TO break up the di honest practices COM
planned Of, he was also in favor of fostering tat
mining Industries. He compared the leading new ;
Iape' Of the State with the mines The paper is
probably worth half million dollars, and Yet il is
only assessed upon the actual tangible property IN
sight Tie same with 4 mine. the real value con
sists in its good wi ], IN its prospective value.
Sir. tKLrOS said nothing new could be laid
question which IL as old the world The question
comes down TO one issue-shall property be taxed
once or snail 1t be taxed twice He believed that
the people OF this State unequiyocally in favor
of single taxation. The people so undarsto od the
Constitution when they voted to adopt it. lie was
opposed to i0i because it does most certainly mean
double taxation. He illustrated OF, the savings
banks and defed any one to dsproye the assertion
that the earnings Of the poor must peces ssarily be
twice taxed. There is no capital stock outside OF
the deposits and this money must be assessed first
on the bank books, and second in the bank. There
are ~ 900 depositors in San Francisco and who n
they discover this double taxation, MIR BraunhGrt,
who is in favor Of double taxation, viii hear from
them to his sorrow.
Mr.. DUBRUIz wanted every man to stand UP and
vote for what he considers 10 be right, despite f
threats matter by which side they may be made
II at was his course OF action. lie replied to the
argument OF Mr. Felton,. lie said the dep0siiOrs DO
not get the interest earned by their mo ey. The
bankers get profit on every dollar loaned. They
pay the depositor six per cent? and get twice that
amount and pocket the difference. He not so
sure tilaJ u Rouiu De dement, II IuCse s1NinEs
banks could be Abolished as they prevent the money
from finding its way into permanent improvements.
1t is aggregated there and used for purposes Of
ulstiOn.
Mr.. MAY spoke again on the measure.
Mr. CARR OF Sacramento ieped to the arguments
in regard TO banis. He aid there was no law com
peiling men TO put their money in banks. They can
loan their money without doingt through the banks,
and in that event they viii be in no danger from
double taSatien
Mr. sNoy spoke again on that question.
Mr.. BRAUNHAET also replied to the charge OF Mr..
Fclton that he was in favor of double taxation BE
did not SO state, but that double taxation in some
instances could not be avoided. He spoke at length
in favor Of bill q O. 3J4.
Mr.. HARRISON replied to the insnua.ions Of some
of the gentlemen that he had been cinched. lie
was III favor OF the bill, and when 1t is alleged
that he had been cinched, the gentlen en- mis-
taken. He was member OF several corporations
and interested in two banks. As to banks, he haG
held the position Of President OF bank, which he
had since resigned 10 receive such vote as other
man received III Napa corDty. He showed o
letter from the President of TIE Bank of Napa NJ.
Newton, i'll which thfy gentleman says bill No. iGi
is just measure and ought to be passed. lie
was here in the interest Of the people. The ques-
ton is one Of constitutional law; not what law
shall be passed, but what does the Constitution de-
mand. Whether just unjust that matter las
been settled by the fiat OF the people, and the man
date is out for the Legislature tax stocks and
credits. Were that mandate ISSUED by Court, and
the Legislature refused to comply with it, they
would be arrested and punished. Is not the MAJ
date Of the people higher and stronger than the
mandate .! any Court. 1t is not what law is eXpe-
dient, but what does the Constitution demand. Bill
No. 403 says premiums shall be taxed How are
those premiums going to be reachedI lie saw lnen
arounu him who have money in the savings banks
and they are not afraid to vote for bill No. 404 He
argued that it would be better if we hal savings
banks, the history OF the past shows. one-third
of the banks in insolvency, aud the balance
barely above bankruptcy. The men who de-
NOS in han t.Qr AIE 10 a
been shed for them. They able TO take care
of themselves. He replied to Mr.. Fox's assertion
that capital stock cannot be taxed IL is taxed in
New York, it is taxed here, as proved by the Codes
corporation cannot have an eXistanee without
capital stock, aid that stock must be taxed. And
the tax be collected by law toos 1t always be
done, and the corporate property can be seized, and
the individual property of the curporators be seized
for the debt. Every lawyer knows il.
The ones ion being, shall bill No. 403 be read q
third time. the motion was lost by the following
vote:
Ayes Adams, Blown Of Yuba, Bruner. Brusie
Canron, Coffman, Coleman, Dimond Downs, Eel
ton, Fox, May, Nelson, Tyler, Young-15.
Noes-Anthony, Bass Bennett, Braunhart, Brooks
Brown of Sonoma, Burns, Carr OF Sacramento, Carr
of Yuba, Cham erlan Cook. Cooper Corcoran Cuth-
bert, Del Vale, DuBrutz Durham, Estee, Finlay-
son, Fraser, Frink, Gsribadi, Gaey, Gorley, Green
Hardy, Harris Hershy, Hynes, Josseyn, Lane, Leach
Levee, Mcguire, Mathews, Maybell, McCallon, Nc
Carty OF AXE, Mccarthy Of San Francisco McComas
McDade, Mcintosh Merry, Messenger, Morse, Picket
Say le Simon, SherburH, Spencer, Stanley Stoddard
Streeter, sweetland, Walker Ward, Wason OF Ven
tura, Watson, York-60.
BREEZE.
Mr. Fox offered resolution to the effect tha
hereafter no persons shall be allowed upon the iooi
Of the Assembly Chamber except members ant
officers of the House, members and Off
OF the Senate, State officers mentioned in III,
rule the newspaper reporters entitled to seats, Ger
tam ex-State officers and CoDgressmen, and ladie
| by invitation of members
| AIr. Fox-rhis is merely to enforce Rule IL
| Mr.. BgAUSIART objected.
| The CHAfR-Ths is IN order under the rule.
Mr.. ARR OF Iub1-l move the resolution he lai(
upon the table.
| Mr.. McCARTHY- rise to a point OF order W,
are not under the head OF motions and resolutions
| The SPEARER-This IS to enforce a rule Of thi
| House, and ssch motion is always III Orter. Iht
| Chair entertained q similar motion OF Mr. Braun
| bart this morning to amend the rules. Such mo
1 ton is always in order
| Mr.. BBAUSus RT--I rise to point of order tha
| this is amendment 20 the rules, and no motto,
has been given. Rule II charges the Speaker witt
the duty OF GEARING the floor when it is necessary
Mr., CARR OF Yuba-I submit that this Is a change
| of the rule, and is out Of order
Mr. BRAUNHART-No notice has been gwen.
The SPEAREE- the rule il is in the power oi
the Assembly, at any time, to pass sIch a resou.
ton. You can pass 1t by majority vote. The rule
provides that the House MAY at any time order th
floors cleared OF all such persons 1t would be pre-
posterous il the House could not BY q ua jority vote
control the House Itself
Mr. GATFEl-Does it not take one days notice and
a two-thirds vote to change ruler
The SPEARER--Yes, sir.
Mr.. GAFFEY-Then that is q change OF the rule.
The rule iacludes "laaies and gentemen.r This
resolution only says ladies'
The SPEAKER-The Chair rules that the House
may exclude any class by majority vote 1t may
admit gentlemen and exclude ladies ii it chooses.
Mr.. GAFFEY-That is an alteration of tie rule
The SPyAKER--I do not think so.
Pm tTT,-fr far,1 tfroN ,1.o
of the rule.
Mr. McCALuoS-It seems strange to me that so
plain proposition as this
Mr.. ADAMs-I rise to point of order rhe Chair
has already ruled, and there is nothing before this
House.
The SPzAKER-Thc point is well ,;.ken. The ques.
ton is upon laying the resolution upon the table
Mr. McCALLIoN- t seems strange so plain
The SPBAKEE-The question is to lay upon the
cable.
Mr.. McCALuox-I claim that it is out of order
Mr.. MAYBRLL-lt happens strange, that when
but afew days ago, the weknown and notorious
agents Of corporations
The SPEAEER-The question is not debatable.
Mr.. fox-I desire those words to be taken avn.
The SPEAKER-He has not said anything to be
taken down, because the question is debatA ble
Of 32 ayes to 80 noes.
NJ MCDADE offered the following amendment to
the resolution; Insert Gentlemen when specially
invited by members of the House
The ayes and noes were called for.
Mr. TYLER-I ri4e to point of order. That the
amendment makes the rue read exactly as it now
stands in the rules
The SPEAKER-The resolution can be amended.
Mr.. MCDADE-Tbat is certainly change of the
rule. II the members desired this floor cleared they
do it by majority vote at any time.
Mr.. BRAUSHART-l appeal from the decision of the
Chair.
The SPEsKFR-It is too late You can appeal
from the decision of the Chair saying it is too late
ii you wish.
Mr. BRAUSnAEr-I viii get at it in some other
way. We are rot now und the head of resolu-
tions / offered resolution this IN rning and the
Chair ruled it out OF order
The SpEAKER-Your resolution was offered while
bill was being read. 1t was afterwards con.idered
and adopted.
TAT this point-4:25 P. M.-the opponents of the
resolution began fight for time in order that "a
vote might be delayed until o'clock the hour for
adjournment, in order to throw it into unfinished
business.
MI MoRsE-The point should have been made at
the time when the resolution was OF cred.
Mr.. Brown of Sonoma-Do you, Mr. Speaker, de-
eide that the rule be changed by jority vote
The SPRAKER-No, sir.
Mr.. BRowS-You say that the resolution does not
change the rule?
The SPEAKER-I do.
Mr.. BRows-Then it is very peculiar way of
reading it.
The sPEsKER-Though the words "balarce
Of the session" in there, still TIE rule is not
changed in effect. The House by the same vote to-
though in form changing the rule, is not in fact
doing so.
Mr.. McCARTY You hold, then, that this is only
tepporary and will not he in force tfnorrow with