The New Orleans daily Democrat., 1880-04-17
KELLOGG.SPOrTORD.
The Late Debate in the Senate
Democratic Caucus.
what Leading Senators Had TO Hay=
A Majority in Favor Of postpon-
ing the Case=Little Pros
peet Of the ousting
Of Kellogg.
baltimore SUM-

over che Kellogg spoiferd contest was NOR,
interesting than any Of the preceding discus
sions ef the subject.
senator Hill WAS the most active and nor
stant speaker In behalf Of tho report OF the
tIemmittee on Privileges and Elections. and
in favor Of tho immediate consideration Of the
case. In answer to the remarks 10 the effect
that the questions involved were very grave
and mosshtous. he said. TO the contrary. II
was d very narrow proposition aud one very
easily understood.
Judge Thurman said IL was not only not
narrow, but II was the very broadcast aud
snaat important proposition which had been
t,fssaeltea during hiH entire senatorial life. II
was so grave and 81 important In all its bear
anaa, not only aH II Affected the welfare Of the
Democratic party. but an IL related 10 the
puwefs uf the sehats 10 touch question
ut,ce aettiad. The right Of Senator to hia aeat,
tnvavinA both law aud pfseedent, that II
ahould not be proceeded with preeipitately,
bat only after the hosJ mature dellbefatloli.
The drift Of his entire remarks left the de-
niJsd impression that he did not believe Mr..
HellaaH could be lawfully unaeated.
Mr. Hayard snia II waa not only the great.
ssat question which had eo no under his OBJ
aarvaiion In hist equatorial service. but he
{ thoslsht II was the gltatpst question that the
Aetiate as a separate body. had ever been
E.Alfks1 nupn tn HaAl WlAHs III NHG UTab liz
sesatlre, when the authority to make this ins
vaHtigation had bash asked for, he had under.
atafI that the purpose was merely TO direct
Che inquiry To the poiAt OF whether there
were any circumstances of sufficient Import
nnee 10 justify y feopenlng Of tile case. that
the inquiry waa to be confined to that point.
and tho question whether the Senate had the
power ID reopen II waa ono for future eenfefa
ss,oa and agreement, He had no idea that the
cntnsnittee would VI ita own voltian reopen
chs eaae and bring In nuch report,
Mt. Lamar spoke with more than his usual
forrs and earneatnsss. He said tho report
which had been made to The Asnats by tho
Committee on Privileges aud Elections ootl.
tnined the hnldeat and moat advanced ppsia
lstoli aud The most extreme doctrine that had
tsvef been anpounaed. certainly In the Senate
and no believed IN any parliamentary body
that had ever existed. He believed II was the
frat time case Of thla character. once de-
tetded by parliamentary budy on Ito merits.
The committee baaad their claims to tho eS-
ereisa Of this power largely upon The opina
Iana which had BEEN eKnreaeed by Senators
daliasner. Of Vermont, and Trumbull. Of tllis
neia. in tho case Of Senator Bright, 6f In
diana; but it must be remembered that those
gentlemen were Republicans. and the doc.
ffiaea which they snunoiatsd were utterly
sepudinted by the Democrats. The doctrine
promulgated by the committee In It's report
advanced the bold aud daring theory In
every mans seat which excluded all idea of
flnality aa tn the right Of any man 10 hold hia
ssaat by any adjudication which could be had.
tt aIao went to the bottom OF oil questions III
reference TO the structure OF the government
ataelf ft would make IL government de.
pendent upon the. pure, unbfidled will of
whAtsyer majority happened to be In power,
Gen. Gordon spid that while he did not feel
authorized at this time TO go Into the merits
III tho case, on tho principles and doctrines
fa35 La al
felt it hiB duty to auE9eHt to his colleague
and To ths other membera Of the committee
that the grave doubts which had been OK
pressed by those who had heen lohgeat IN the
service bf the party and In the Senate ought
to cause them to pause and hesitate before
asking tho Immediate confederation of tho
Csasse He referred to Senators Thurman and
lBayard an two members Of the Senate who
had for long years, with very few
around them, reaisted what they always
charged 10 be revolutionary measures Of
revolutionary party. that the gaining Of ono
vote In the Senate by turning out Kellogg.
siftleea Ii could be done lawfully, would be- u
moor compensation for the Impression which
would be created, Ia the minds Of The people
that the Democratic party only waited to
sttain political aseendeney 10 perpetuate their
own power Through the same revolutionary
measures which they had always denounced
tn tlpeir advernarien. He did not charge that
thtp would be revolutionary. and he hoped
tho party would drift together, after proper
feIleution, particularly after those leaders In
whom they and the country had confidence
Ilnd assured the committee they were not
ready ia vote on or discusH this question.
This fact alone was amply sufficient to justify
tho committee In concluding that II would he
no aAorifiee oil respect on their part should
Atsy oonaent to q poatpenement.
Gov. Vance depnoated ia strong terms
what ha designated aa the baoklng'down pol
ley Of the Democratic party and The want Of
courage eyineed by those who controlled ite
policy. They had backed down ut the extra
stvsaion; they had backed down In the Fitz
John Porter case and the majority In the
Louisiana TO be mlsrepreeented by n man who
senator Bailey said that while at frat he
Ind been Inclined the other way, he had now
concluded, after examining into tho case, that
III was ono that should be proceeded with at
once.
Gov. Garland suggested. In reply to the
charge Of eowaftiiee which had been init
mated against some OF thoae thvoring post
ponamen!, thai. thai y iva. was hardly be becoming
80 gallantly and devotedly by Louisiana
In all her miafortunea, because they
heattatad now to do what they believed to be
an illegal act. Heoounaeled that IL was bot
tnr TO bear wrong and trust to time, the
avenaor, than 10 endeavor 20 redress II by
unusual and doubtful methods. In this con-
sleotion he related an interesting Incident, un-
known TO many Of the Senators present, aud,
az course. known outside to but very few.
He aaid that when he was Governor Of Ar
kansas, In the periloue and exciting period u
frw years ago. when upjuatiilable Federal
lntef.ference with the affairs Of the State was
threatened by the administration of Gen.
Grant, he, believing the law and the right to
be on the side OF the State, was at first In
cliled TO reeist force with force, but that he
hnd been advised from Washington by the
SAINT, prudent oounsellors who had just spok-
en- In caucus here not to do 1t. He had taken
their advice. and he had never ceased to re-
i0lce that he had done 30. Arkansas was
saved, through orderly and peaceful instru-
naentaiities, so with Louisiana; and Ill
though II was q grievous wrong that Lou
iatana should be misrepresented on the floor
OF tho Senate, s,i ! IL was so much better 10
bear that wrong for the compa ratively brief
r,erfod that II would continue rather than to
rxhttt by stamping out law and precedent.
Mr., Wallace said II this case was proceeded
with and Mr.. Kellogg was elected the Demo-
svaisy of the country, while certainly many OF
fhafu would not approve OF II, might aequi-
h,,t al hat