Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1880-11-03

OF the last CrlttTOn. then to allow pool
persons to have paid counsel would cost the payer
one mill and two -tenths a year.
Mr Grout of Newport took the same view as Mr.
HT briggs of Brandon suppovted the bill He ar.
vantage of the respondents Nov the fee Of so led
oor class OF a%yers t9 seek me etances Of dsiendng
lawyers will undertake it by the assignment of the
cheeriuly borne by the bar and its ablest members
always would be glad to beari it.
said that he had learned by experience poor
spondents never would lack for able counsel without
fee reward. Counsel will give their time for the
sake of the experience and the notorety as well as from
Mr Thompson of Irasburgh said that the friends of
the bill had much sympathy with the poor prisoners
Mr. Palmer Of Waterbury, in regard to the provisions
Of the federal constitution and said did not apply 70
the jurisprudence OF this state The law If this bill
was passed still left the court at liberty 70 summon
lie replied to MIR Gr0ut Of Newport that the law had
been administered economeally. and showed that in
respondents in the last two years This was a real
measure Of reform and he wanted it passed it
walton; was return to the old custom q Thousand
yers that they were always ready to stand and pro-
tect the sub against the power Of the crown for no
pay He hadbeen assured by the oldest and best
bers the bar that before the passage Of this $40 law
when the defense of criminals matter of profes.
anS Th ee naa cSna far no 15 %
paid unless there was trial, and so shysters would
state to needless expense Of hundreds OF dollars in
the interest OF the state that the blll pass '''
Mr. Harvey of ropsham replied to the statement Of
R for % the saFs S lie Ti G be
that any lawyer wanted such notoriety He was in
truth being that in most respondents needed nc
counsel the court could amply protect them And The
ask for counsel when it wasn't necessary.
Mr.. Brown of Grand Isle opposed the bill, because
he believed that poor respondents would not be
ery defended unless attorneys could have their pay
equate pay for lawyer, and they would sooner have
uone Criminals should stand like other men and must
Mr.. Dart OF Weathershed said that the investiga.
9a q r6 TINS & OF reform sn @ ha the lie
court fees and expenses. Now this was reform
which the ablest members OF the bar recommended
and they themselves said it good reform and a
necessary one They knew more about the matter than
any else and he believed that the house could safe
Mr.. Groqt OF Newport reiterated the arguments al
Mr. Co6urn OF Sprinehild said that the people were
were resolved to have them reduced There had beef
great increase in court expenses ard now this bill
the commissioners on court expenses and by the ju
dietary com, had come before the house: He hoped i
loudly about court expenses aud the necessity of
dqnE the the ds sor 9 6a as yet the e leader
Grand lse) had opposed every measure in favor of
own experience with the lawyers of Vermont hat
shown HIM that respondents could rely upon thel
the state denian led the passage of the bill
Mr.. Palmer is Of f. Jericho sal SAID that some seemed t.
public teats 1t was not true The bar as honesty
+ f @ Sf sf2F h2aFe II s. s sss
OF the Judiciary, com but one and It was sautar
passage of this law, and argued that the honor an
chivary OF the bar were enough toahord any poor
E On motion Of MIR. smith of Fairlee the house ad
journed.
. HOUSE AFTERNOON.
II. lO9 came up as unfinished business.
some time in ls66 udxe Peck allowed Mr. Homer II
Heaton $500 for defending criminal 1t seemed tina
had
, to allow an unlimited sum for either defending
anees that the giants Of the law, the Redelds Il
Phelpses and tine Pecks had defended so chvarously
spent in the dscussion and he demanded the prevoT
! question:. Mr.. Howe seconded the demand. and I'll
/ question being, shall the main question be now pu
Nr. Briggs of Brandon demanded the yeas and nay
which we're; Yeas Messrs s. Abbott % of Bennngtoni Al
fret Allen of Hartford, Allen OF HlnesburEh Arno
/ ham Black, Bolton, Booth Of Ferris9urgh, Booth
MorriStown, BrlgSs, Bryant, Bucklln, Butterhe
CLARK Of WIliision, CLARK OF Windsor Cobb Of Ripto
t CoIburn Cook ,CIrrier, Curtis, Gushing, Daniel
Pntney, Deming, Dexter, Dillon Dutton Of Goshei
EIis Ely -G9ddaId hi Farman FersGson Fided Fitc
Derby, Goodwin OF llarta4d Gould Of CABOT, Gould
Hill, Hlnsiill HodEes' Holmes, Howe Hubbard Hun
Q Hutchinson, lnEas, James, Joues, Joslyn, Kelle
Meas: Merried Moore l!otl Nichols, Ober, . Bria
VNein,, Page, Palmer oi jericho Parker Of Elnor
Perry Of Ira Pike, Preston Priest OF Barre Priest
i Mount Holly, PnndlSs kankin Ranney, Kichardso
EpEeG q smpsoa of
Sim%s% ot e; ST6 g{n + Fairs s@
5amner Taft ayor Of hetFord FS TayoT Ti0Te ii Wasnn
Ware @Seerhoass Weh %es %ord yWheg
/ Dorset Dorset wilcox Of MoEEan Wilcox Of Pa%et Wiley
I Allen Of Eno%borgh, Bems OF Burke, Blair, Blaisde
benny bdad hSF ee eFSS S%
Grout Of Concord, Grout of Newport Hazard Hlncklt
i, trek McNisht Morrill, Of Canaan. Morrison, orcu
Il Perry OF Hancock Patt Potter OF Bevidere, Renfre
\ smith OF Newark, Smith of st. Johnsbury, StoI
II BTookine, Whitney Of franklin woodward, WOODWORK
', BIZ paSSed- H. 95, after being amended on motion
text books to That part OF school district formed fro
two towns which has the greatest number of scholar
l. Scadte bills reterred-s. 81 an act in amendment
a on banks.
5. 35. an act to pay Oscar E. Head the sum there
le named to com. on claims.
s. 3, au granting certain rights the proprieo
is ways, bridges and ferries
s a, an act relating to persons confined iu the sta
q prison; to com; on state prison.
Joint resolution From the senate that the two hous
take an adjournment from Frdry afternoon till We
Senate bHreterred- 5l an act to change the nal
ID OF the kutland County Trust Company and to ame
the act incorporating the same approved Nov $, Is
z to com. on banks. -,...-..- =, ,, r,,,.-
Huntington, adversely TO H. 5l. an act in amendme
II, of sec. 53 chap D. x. S.; third reading refused,
IN on ayS H. an a M 10
le OF Rutland 30 refund It's outstanding bonds h
From the same co CON- by Mr. Carh Of Windsor, in
vor OF H. l:O, an act to authorize the towns there
named Arlington Bennington, Dorset, Shaflsbu
. Sunderland aud Mount Tab0rl to refund their prest
70 Indebtedness; third reading ordered to morrow mol
=. Senate amendment cOncurred in-H. TO- an act in
On TO mortgages OF personal property, having be
passed by the mouse and sent to the came ba
-, passed III concurrence with proposal of amendme
ta i which was agreed TO- This blll amends the chat
"a mortgage law 50 tnat the property mortgaged cam
be removed from the state without the consent OF b'
&c mortgagOr aud mortgagee and their assigns
al RepOrtS-From the com on claims, by Mr. Harvey
d the Rutland county national bank $7a8 for expen
iio incurred i'll the arrest OF William Charles Brown
ID reasons why there was 80 large sum reported
g; Mr. Page of Rutland explained thar it was to Ell
said that the state had received $500 in money fr
10 Browns bal and the bank had expended this sum
he Mr. Hapgood OF Peru moved to amend 80 to mi
UT ~ 80 as to include the $500 reward paid by
~. y: Mr Harvey of Topsham and Mr. Leayens defend
se the bill and sad that the allowance was just
Mr. Currier OF Norwich thought the amount allow
"a was too and that the sum ought to be cut dowl
nf Mr.; Buterheld OF Whitlngham opposed Mr. Ii
vi goods amendment
~ The question as to the adoption of amendment be
put the chair was Ill doubt and count was called
os Pending the question,
stand this bill before 1t was decided In the pursui
this criminal the state had not been put to any expe
Whatever not even the fees and expenses of the req
state had received 800 from the BAH and had
Of the officer and not to the bank. If the bill passed
Of state would still be in about $3O 1t would be uni
he il state got all this money and did not bear any
nr Mr. iIinckley of Chelsea wanted to know how the
re for the officers fees, etc made up. 1t seemed
he him larKe sum. ,,,,
a Mr.. Page moved that the bill be ordered TO lle 30
lis the items miYnt be examined
he r Fined inquired what amount was paid to
he person authorized to receive the prisoner
MI Harvey d and Mr. EgF Fsa s9me th fnrther h
To- ffe iHsoi1e9cy la,o-H A. the bill introduced by
,ad ButterneId u WhtlnYham, to repeal the insOve
er act OF 1876, which reported adversely to by
Iority Of the Judiciary com, and favorably to
&c minority and Iendihs the question oi Whetne ne
lre Butterhed Of Nottingham was ordered to he and m
the special order for three O'Clock this afternoon
Z a taken from the table.
ers Mr. Butterhed OF Whitingham advocated the pass
of the bill He claimed that an insolyent law was
an necessary i'll Vermont; 1t enabled dishonest mel
evade paying their debts ltaso added 10 the expel
he of the courts with no commensurate auVahtages
e- Mr. Fihed said that the abolition OF the insolven
releguted uh to the reign of the old attachment
yin which enabled the most viant creditor to attach
st mans property, and prevented the other credl
m from getting any; and II also placed an insurmoun
obstacle 70 young man who had failed by mlsiurt
to from ever strengthening out and starting again
me old grab Law" was an anomaly which no other )
ing had 1t enabled creditor to grab" all mans
in perty before Judgment when perhaps the whole I'll
wa Our nsOlvent law is q cheap aud lust
nd OF ~ distributing lie properly of unable % p%s
debts his creditors. 1t was copy OF the Ma
igs chusess law which had been upon It's statute book
in about half century, The national bankrupt law
ed; repealed because II was expensive and because
Dck time for stringenCy had passed
oil MIR Harvey OF TOpsham Tor the repeal of the
ent unnecessary, expensive ana UNJUST ana
ent Mr. Howe OF Ludlow said that the insolvent law
ile cheap and an efficient and speedy means Of sett
sed estates As manufacturer, he preterre
of sell goods those states where there insolN
lws law because then all the creditors could iu