, 1880-09-19

| Federal Courts shall be denied Jurisdiction In
any ease arising about the malls? sl Suppose sa'
try the reSber7 - :il:' Try him before. . Federal
JudEs2 Why? Because be has has yiolatoa @ ash RED M
defend tree speech everywhere. What we want
| to do is to defend the expression 0r Thought In
! papers, ~ pamphlets, IN books. What we wnn!
| pamphlets are on an equality with all other
books, papers, and pamphlets IN the e. United
States mails lApplause and voice @ ~ That's it.,
tako is, If any man is stndicted under The pretense
that ho Is publishing immoral books, to have
and and If We believe w .the % man to be- innocent We
himself; and ii We ind that the law IS unjust in
that particular. we vii! 70 for tho amendment men Of
some sou, sense il tbis natter w W must have it. Il
We don't, upon that rock we vii split-upon
The cause OF tntellcc1ual freedom is the highest
cause to the human mind. Let US stand by IT..
and we can help nll these people by thls resoln-
while If VIC agree to the fifth and sixth reso-
lutions that have been offered, I
ssx ay 6s baaod asapss Gpp
| ter how untustfy, that we are IN favor OF pro-
tectiug widespread immortality.
Coi. Ingcrsoii-The;y m may say we are afraid. I
dclcgate-what are you talking about?
ony Z 1e1
endeayor to
PUT LITTLE SENSE INTO SUCH MEN As You.
[Apptause and laughterl Your very question
shows that 1t was necessary that l should talk.
[Appla,lse.] And now move that my resolu-
Mr., ,Wakonnn moved that it be substituted for
Recommended the constitution Of II Committee
OF Defense. ...
Col. .Ingersnll-1 cannot agree with the sixth res-
III principle. 1 thiuk 1t binds us to course Of
action that VIC will not be willing to follow; and
my resolution covers every possible case: My
in the exercise of his right [Applausc.] cau't t
be bound to say that the Government hasn t con
troll Of its we cannot trust the Fed
crut Courts that, under any circumstances, at
uny time, am bound to defend either by word
Or money, any man who violates the laws Of this
eqant1yi H. Takdmaa@%e ktapne!9%se DO not say that.
Col. Ingcrsull-1b beg Of you, beseech you, not
to pass tho sixth resolution. II you do wouldn't
os ea
possible trick. We arv all opposed TO that.
Mir. Lefand-Nhnt is the question.
Col. lngcrsOll-Dun't let uS be silly geese
Don't ler us say we arc opposed to what we are
not opposed to. II any nlan here is not OPP
posed to putting down the vilest Of all possible
only pnrt Of tho law,-opposed to 1t whenever
they cndeavor TO trnmple free thought under
IN ths q 36n p @
defense Of the two resolutions, saying that he
was not opposed to the punishment OF obsceuity,
IKE o % Se sa and
under Federal laws. His argument was Demo-
cratic to the backbone, the burden OF it being
stock Societies, wanting The accused tried by
the "regular laws" Of the States. before the
regular officers" and the "regular juries."
: "If such jury found man guilty let him go
to hell" "
A Iudy delegate inquired
WHAT THE LEAGUE had 10 DO WITH HE'LL.
Mr.. Wakeman safd be used the word By way of
illustration: "Lct them go to the eternal
bow vows" ..
: Col Ingersoll-You know as well as that
there arc certain books not dt to go through the
Nvered.
Mr. Wakemnn-That Is so.
Col Iugcrsolt-There is not man here but
what is In favor, when those books and pictures
come into tho control Of the United States, of
burning them up. when they arc man{festiy
obscene: You don't want any Grand jury there.
Mr. Wakenan-Yes, we do:
Col. Iuzcrsoll-No. we don't When they arc
mauifcstly obscene, burn them up.
Col ingersoli-When they are manifestly OBJ
President Wright-Burn the author.
de!egateWh9 Is to be TIE 3ndgs Of that2 at2
differs nbout. There are certain things about
which we eau use discretion. If that discretion
+ qee sand for
the the progrcssSo % Of spirit Of The United states. We
can't afford to say that nil thuse laws should be
we could say in what they should DO amended.
Don't tic ub to this nOnsensc,-tO the idea that
wo hnye an interest ta immoral m literature: Let
had a case before the Federal Courts, aud be i'm
agines, having lost that case, you cannot depend
on them; have lost 81 m hunareds ct cases have M as
State Courts. am not to be a party to throw
ing slur upon the J. Fedora! Judiciary: Al we
Is ocues @ a6 axs foe
theirs. And how this Internal question Of
obsGenity ever got into the Liberal League I
convicted Of larceny. should We repeal nl tho
laws on the subject Of theft? ! doE't pretend to
be better than other people, 1t is easy to talk
have the luxury Of being wrong. I mn adyo-
eating something thnt we can stand upon do
not misunderstood hfr. Wnkeman's motives I
ouEhly honest. Why not just sny VIC will stand
BY. freedom Of thought and its expression?
yg Mny mo- any say aW ' st nse Is ponx IN ry0r p1 ct
do not make the wholesale statement
that all these laws ought to be repealed. They
of ne 70 @ aw senas me
struments Of vice in the mails Is good, as is the
law against sending obscene books and pictures,
prey upon sick people, and the law which pre-
vents the getters-up Of bogus lotteries sending
their lettefs f through the mails [Appauso and
Mr. Green moved to lay the substitute on the
table.
Considerable excitement and much running
talk followed, in. the midst Of which Parker
Pillsbury said It was evident that they could not
act on tho resolution II, their present franc Of
mind. He therefore mOyed to adjourn until
O'Clock. aud the motion prevailed.
EVENING SESSION.
LET Us HAVE PEACE.
Tho evenings session opened with some hor~
ribly blasphcmous singing By the piano -thumper
from Iowa, who wound up tho mornings enter
tainment. After this biasphcmous Introduction
Mr: Green got up and made un impassioncd plea
for toerahon and harmony and III favor Of
laying on the tab!c the firchrand resolutions
which had disturbed the peace Of the after
Moons session,-thoso in relation to the COM
stock business together with tho amendments
thereto. The motion to table wns lost by n vote
of IS to 25 Col. 1ngcrsolt then withdrew his
amendment, offered at the afternoon session,
and moved to lay on the table Resolution No. 6.
On that resolution he called for tho yeas and
nays. lCEtcs of Bulldozin1,'' - Filbustering,''
etc.]
u am going to do what can to keep this
Lelgue from destroying ITSELF" retUrtcd Col.