Morning journal and courier., 1880-01-08

Q.-Has anything ever been said in the pulpit by Mr. Gibbs about Mir. Hayden A. Why, from his text he made remark I think in this way: 1T shan't sacrifice the church, den. He is where he is." think those were the words. (Sensation.)
 The wood Lot Time.
 Witness--Yes I was at Mir. Hayden's when MT. and Mrs. Gibbs made that call upon him referred to in Mir. Gibbs testimony about the wood lot time. If anything was said about the wood lot time | did not hear it. was not there all the time, but think was there all the time that Mir. Gibbs was there. Mir. Gibbs and Mir. Shaw. brother of Mrs. Hayden, went away together. Have been member of the Methodist church there thirty years.
 Mir. Waller to Mr. Jones-The Methodist Church has not believe come into the trial
 MT. Waller inquired-You go to MT. Gibbs church Aldo.
 Q.-And he said something about people be- ing as bad as Judas? Al know he said it. I know he said it. If was shot or fired at
 MT. Waller-You are in no danger. madam. (Amusement.9
 Mir. WaIler-Was it said that Judas went out and punished himself; Judas thus saved a long trial? A.-No, sir.
 MT. Waller-Did he have much in it about Judas? A.-But know the first hymn they
 
 laughter.
 MT. Waller-Oh, that's often the hymn to start Methodist meeting with. Daughter Was the text about Hayden? A.-No, sir. Oaughtet.)
 MT. Waller-Was there anything wrong in saying he would not sacrifice the church or his soul for MT. Hayden? Al find no fault with 1t, but felt there were two sides in the church and every one was marked-those not against Hayden. Witness was a pleasant spoken elderly lady, who evidently wanted to do right and justly.
 A colloquy ensued between couns ], MT. Watrous remarking that Mr. Gibbs heI cer- tainly shown himself not entitled to conf dence, and MT. Waller replying that if his soul had no other burden upon it it could fly when it got to the other world. Daughter ) The Wood Lot Time Further More Controversy. Jesse Shaw, brother of Mrs Hayden, sworn Yes, sir; was there when Mir. Gibbs and wife called. I was in the pantry. MT. Jones said thls was contradictory to the minister, who said he was not there when they first camel MT. Jones, addressing the court, said it was to show that MT. Shaw was in the pantry and heard from Mrs. Hayden her statement of the time her husband went to the woods; he was afterward in the room when the talk with Gibbs occurred. Mrs. Hayden has been attacked by no one but this minis ter.
 Q.-Were you in the pantry? (Objected to.) Judge Park-Is it important ? Mir. Jones-We desire to show that in the pantry, where he was getting some refreshment, just having arrived on a visit, Mrs. Hayden had some talk with him, and on this very wood lot time for one thing. The court thought best to pass this.
 Witness-Soon after came out MT. and Mrs. Gibbs came in, having just arrived. Mrs. Hayden was much broken down; very weak. Yes, sir; heard the conversation about the wood lot. Mrs. Hayden was very weak and crying all the time, and he was pumping of her, and I thought it was time to get him away and leave her alone, and so got him to take walk. I heard the talk between MT. Gibbs and my sister about the wood lot. He asked what time he went. My sister said 2 o'clock, the same as she had told me in the pantry. There was no conversation about it's being o'clock or a quarter past o'clock. To MT. Waller-It is nothing new. I have had this time in my mind all along. Yes, sir ]; talked about it to parties in Fall River long time ago.
 Adjourned to @. m.