New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1880-06-20
THE TILDEN PERPLExITIEs.

GRPAT ANXIETY FOR TJLDEN's FORMAL WITH
DRAwAL-opPosIrIoN TO PAYNE. HIS LEGATEE.
AMONG THE NEw-YOgK AND BROOKLYN MEN,
PAYNE's FRIENDS CONFIDENT OF sUBsTANTIAl
SUPPORT.
CBY TELEGRAPH TO THE TRiBUNEi
CINcINNATI, June 10.-Tilden is no longer cam
ddate for the Presidency. Some of his intimate
friends have relaxed something of their reserve to-
day and, while tho general public Is still assured
that his friends all propose to stand by him. and the
expectancy Of letter of withdrawal Is stOutly de-
MED it has been admitted to number OF delegates
in semi-confdental way that he is now ont OF tha
race But there has been new element OF disturb-
ance in the situation for the followers OF IlideDs
They feared oil through the day that they would
not be able to carry out the programme stated In
these dispatches last night. This was 1T will be re-
membered, that in the meeting OF the New-fork
delegation, to be held tonight resolution should
be offered presenting Tilden as candidate and
pledging him the full vote of NewYork; that there-
upon the letter of withdrawal should be read and
given to the press, and, the Ex-Governor thus
being out of the way, the Tilden column should DO
reor0anized for his second choice 1ilden men have
managed to keep the secret of this programme won
derfully well. Rumors Of letter OF withdrawal
have been in all mems mouths, but probably not
dozen delegates know at this moment how 1t Is In
tended to make 1t public, or, indeed, have any
positive knowledge that such letter 1s IN exS
istence. This was the programme, and still is, sub
iect to one condition. vz the arrival OF the letterl
It is known to have been written. and is known to
have been signed, and is understood TO be on in
way hither, but the messenger had not arrived up
to o'clock this evening. No message had been re-
ceiyed to show that he actually started, though
the Tilden managers had every reason tc beheva
that he had done so This explanation one OF the
Tlden men called this morning, in confidentiai
fit of wrath the old mans banked procrastina-
tiou."
II there had been a message to tell his anxious
friends when the bearer Of the precious document
| had started, that would have been relief ana
would have given his friends time to arrange theiI
plans; but this could not be thought OF; whisper
| ing can't be done by telegraph. and so Telegram
was ont Of the question. There never was more
comica situation in politics. with something OF the
| tragcal about it, too.
Mr. Tden could hardly have chosen more in0p-
| perfume time to indulge in his darling sin. While
his friends have been steadily at work underground
ever since getting here in behalf Of Payne, they fet
that it was necessary bring the latter out openly
as candidate at least two days before the COnven-
tion met in order to have time enough to give the
canvass O momentum. So that, while they wors
| hoping up to the hour named for the arrival
of the messenger " who is gentleman on terms Of
confused by the delay and by their being kept In
ignorance of the time when the official announces
| meut of withdrawal would be made. One friend Of
Tilden admitted that he thought the delay could
be ascrbed to his natural reluctance even at the
last moment to complete the act of abdication he
SAWS that Tilden has been firmly convinced from
tho first that in giving up the chance OF nomina!
ton he was giving up the Presidency. So it might
easily be that when the moment came for actually
| resigning the object of his lifelong ambition, h<
would falter and hesitate for time. Thh
same delegate, who frankly admitted two dayt
| ago that Tilden could not be nominated
| now declares with just as much candol
that he believes Tildel could get the nomination II
he were q candidate The feeling for him is said "a
| be intense on the part of his friends, and much
more friendly on the part of those who have not
| been counted for him than was supposed
TIRE PROPOSED TRANSFER.
Regarding Tden as retired into private life, the
| interesting question arises whether he can make
Hcury B. Payne the candidate. In fact. there is
another interesting question back even OF that. 10
is whether Tilden is really determined that Payne
| shall have the nomination, or whether the Payne
movement is mostly the work of q group ofTilden
men who want to see Payne nominated, and who
| know that Tlden would be glad to see his staunch
| Ohio friend chosen. Some New-York delegates
whose fidelity to Tiden is beyond doubt, but who
have not joined in the canvass for Payne. are in
cucd to this latter view and some of the conspicuous
PAYNE men themselves admit II. They say that
Tilden Ia doing little in the matter. but that hia
| friends, beginning with ex-senator Barnum and
| William l.. Scott of Pennsylvania, are terribly IN
earnest for Payne. Everyone believes that Iiiden
| would rather see Payne nominated than any othes
man. and it makes little difference whether filden
managers are following their present course because
they prefer Payne themselves or because they wane
| to carry out TldeD's plans.
NEw-yoRk DELEGATEs DEMURRING.
Much the larger part of Tildens influence is being
used for Payne It can't be said however that the
| whole Of it a. There is q rebellion In the New
York delegation which has been carefully concealed
| John Fox Michael Norton, Timothy Shea, and .
number of the New-York City statesmen are under
stood to be dissatisfied with the idea of being
handed over to Payne, and there is the Same sort
Of discomfort In the Brooklyn delegation.
| But the Payne men claim to have . clear
majority. oven IL the discontented faction should
number twenty five and thirty. and majority In
tho New-York delegation means . great deal. Tho
attention Of TIE TRIBUNE's readers was directed
AZ the time Of tho Syracuse Convention 10 the u.
traordinary character Of tho resolutions adopted
there to govern the action Of the Cincinnati delegal
ton. They were not only instructed to vote q 4
unit, but majority was given power TO sxpsi anyI
member sad ALI his place. I don't rememhs4
the precise wording Of the resolution. but II sye
a majority power to expSl dslsszts without anyl
further pre.exs than that he II NOT acting In The n
terests of the party or doing the work ct its ese-
mics. or something Of that sort Under the eyss,
cuss resolution, thirty-six memhen Of the Ksw@
York delegation oan not only vote down thirty.foa
members, but can sxpel them II they choose. ~
ona expects them to do 1t, but the fact that tl5S