New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1880-09-03
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Tribuue. II s3s D $3.50 II 5000 s. S3.3s2 81
World, 1901 10 995 "a 2G35 = 3l09 70
An leading papers are sold by ncwsdeaers To a
limited extent, which might possibly add ~ per
cent TO the whole amount, ana extras TOT specimen
copies and political purposes possibly an average OF
These are " facts anc figures which cannot
be coutrovertrd, and they snow how easy 10 j.
10 be mistaken, as Messrs Rowell evidently are
in Their dispute with HE TRIBUNE about clrcu-
ati0u. the facts of which are gwen below;
Thus matter is Of great interest To the general
publishing public and consequently some space ls
given to the particulars which are not co'ored ID
favor of either party.
10 get at bottom facts ~ regard ~ circulation,
aud work Is hard as one may there VIII
be errors. Bat when there are such evident
proofs rs gwen by the postage returns
n world seem almost useless fer the publishers Of
The Imercan Newspaper directory or any one to
wage war agalHs. He new oHA TX BE as
they have done. Their continued ATTACKS maze
The TRIBUNE relax it, accustomed dignity and
speak thus IN Its issue March 20. 1850:
II Is scarcely necessary MEL gent readers
of THE lRIBUNE thar We do not BoUeWs Necs-
DQDer DireoOry adyer sed IN other cOumu- a. At All
ee41ted to he o. sitlon there claimed FOR it. the good
words used about IT, or the newspaper dlreeto
issued by advertising agents It - so Tar as we Know
sometimes probable, maiclousy false IN Its state
ments. aud beng open TO me ospicn Al ea % G1ts
tise The Directory or TO give special IaYors 10 us pro-
prietors'
This was Of course combated vigorously by
various Efforts TO get AZ the actual circulation, say
in a circular dated May IONS
20 confident have we become that THE TRBCNE's
attack the Directory Is an attempt 10 force tlat
publication 10 report the circulation OF its week al
figure xner than wou be true, mat we maze anu VIII
stand By the following propositions; M
Ii Mr. Whitelaw Reid. Editor Of TIE TRIBUNE. willpre-
pare statement u the actual ISSUES OF HE WEEKLY
TRIBUNE for the last year ana SHOWS tuat INC issues
amount to much ~ an average OF 100000 copies
wei xiv We will pay over 10 any charity he may desg-
nate. the sum OF one thousand dollars.
mt shows TIE weekly Issue 20 be as much ~ 80 900
copies We vii pay over nye hgndre 90 9 MRS as ng2'e
oyyi t 4e' wetkIy - a. mncn as 10000 we will con-
f,ss The Directory does the paper an injustice and
viii remedy the fault IN future editions. ,,
Notwithstanding NJ. FOrd's opinion OF publishers
sratements We viii take Mr. Whiteaw Reds word for
rhe above verified by Mr. Fitzpatrick the pressman.
from whom presume he would have To obtain the de-
tails
This proposition was not accepted by TIE TRIB-
UNE, IA is evidenced by the following editorial III
heir issue Of the succeeding day, May II;
With liar or a blackmaller plain talk The best.
,,t- .1epf 81 mas lost staplug however FOR years
ana All nst has been tx posed denounced ucces-ivey
by The Herald The Ecentng Post and hundreds OF Oher
Leading apers ecu the decline OF business alarmed
him knew enough 10 adopt the best means for re-
ylvnglt; and III spite OF his hostility to TIE IRBU NJ
he gau advertising With ensiyely gladly paving
our regular IN cash Finally We felt 1t our duiy
to warn our readers against some OF us
claims IN these advertisements Hence eli,
GUAR" which he now spluFtrrs OUT confused
medley Of foolish and absurd misrepresentation as 10
LIE WEEKLY TRIBUNE AS thls crcular begins VIII an
impudent lie aoOus Mr.. George + RowolFs conduct
VII he was uc a
ton and a. he GER ainly knew TINS to DE- " ~hen us
rm signed 10 l. We 90 not think 1t needrn! 10
To add that think Mr. ROwel also lies wnen he states
his belief" the circulation OF The WEEKLY
TRIBUNE. II he "a not mpuoenty lying az IN tnen ne
il merely fool enough give figure far than half
-uut hfile a tnird-of the lowest numoer The
WEEKLY TRIBUNE has printed @n 'HJ week. IN any year
tlon Of The WEEKLY TRIBUNE IN Rowe - Directory
Tot etce Nm NJ 30 90 I'd Primer Idserl.cr
The question OF weekly clrcunuons isuow easily set
wrckcs, Issued from the offices OF dailes SO thrOugn
mails and the post office na, complete records OF the
postage. We are well satisfied with our business, ana
It' 40 h bs. n.n rs.I We NAV merely siy
that die books Post ONCE Dspar ment at Wa,h
my on the circulation OF 1HE WEEKLY ThIBUNE
through the mails to largest Of any weekly paper
I'M tbc United ttes An abs has been recently
prepared By the Hon. A. u. Hazep, Third Assistant
POSTMASTER General -ho Ing the postage pad respect
vry bv rnc xiern papers ofBrgrst crcuau for the
year 1879. NE TRIBUNE paid eg't thousand dollars
more thau the largest among the other hIte'h!
The last clluse oil this while strictly true, would
be- apt 10 ml-lead reader and make him think II
was for weeAly alone, whereas II was for their
daily semI-weekly aud weekly. 10 this " tusilade'
M.-,rs. ROwell K CU's0nly answer was circular
giving letters from the successive editors OF The
american AewspGpT DHecfoTy from 1865
10 tine present tine, each reltrraring The points
made by the publishers, that they IN 70 way
allowed any patronage or favor through the agency
I, influence their statements of circulation. To
This were al ed testimonials from score of large
advertisers expressing confidence IN the work.
AyrOpos 20 ali tnis 10 Viii be interesting reading
10 from the publishers OF HE lhiBlNL blIrtt
as MIR. II. +. Hubbard dId IN December last when
he was preparing the facts and figures Tor The
Newspaper Direc OF the World 80 liberia Is COM
plime ted Oh page H. lie wrote 70 them. A. well
as 90 all 0tncr LEADING papers, giving bis estimate Of
their circulation ana ASKING for their statement
either az claim or sworn and the following Is the
letter received:
OFFICE OF NEW YORK TRIBUNE.
NEW YORK. Dee. 30 1873. :
Ifr II. p. HUBBARD. Nelc Hacsn, conn.
DEAR ~iu: Nunr favor was AMY received. In reply
would say tAa ypa Unueisi oar circulation on every
edition. !lt your gre tte~t errors un IHH WEEKLY.
wlirn YOU nut at 4O.OuOl! iuc ar,ual circulation OF
luF NflY Is considerably more than double bdf. and az
th- pr,eu rate increase U WI be over 100000 ne
for,. yOur n1oh 80 printed. d. not believe
would Intentionally do us an uu, lee. but you cannot
bis - toy feeling LIcI OF these continued
NY Rowel out OF per
soual spite. ana kept up by others, believe, more
through carceasness than ans thing clse.
HIS answer 10 thIs elcitcd the following reply:
OFFICE THE NEW YORK tribune.
YORK. Jan =. 1850. !
Ilr II. f. HCBBARD. Ncic- lIdcsn. conn
SIR Yours or the 3lst ult lust at hand II You
put weekly cigcu atOa az $4,000 " VIII not com
ptla. IA Will without doubt be good deal
tnnyp fuur bp ore the winter