The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-04-22
EXPERTS FOR DIR. TALMAGE.
TWO EDITORS or RELIGIOUS PAPERS
BEFORE THE PRESBYTERY,

hnd ns Editor-Gen. Howard Nolunte ets nn
Amdnvit-TalmHg Again on the stand.
The following extract from Tom Moore's
satire. The Fudgos in England" was ypster-
day sent to DIR. Van Dyke OF the Brooklyn Pres
bytery in note written in a neat small hand:
For twas all to prayr MurtaEh Just had read out.
by way Of NJ nnish to job 80 devout;
That's, after well damnlng one half the community
So pray God to keep all in peace an In unity
Tho galleries OF the Second Presbyterian
Church were closed yesterday afternoon by tho
order OF the trustees OF that church. and not
more than ono-haf OF the throng that swarmed
In tho portico could be admitted The Row. Dr.
5. Irenmus Prime OF tho New York Presbytery
prayed thattho members OF tho judicatory might
have their hearts filled with zeal for Christ's
glory and desire for the best interests OF the
purity and peace OF Zion. Moderator Ludlow
who had been reelected at the spring meet
ing OF the Presbytery. said that he had consent
cd to remain in the position until the end Of tho
trial. owing to the force OF the suggestion that
change Of Moderators before the trial was
ended would prove disadvantage.
Tho Rev. DIR. Prime who was introduced by
the counsel for DR.. Talmago rs nm editorial ex-
pert testified that he is the editor in-chiei Of
peen editor since the month of April, 1910. He
has had about forty years experience as editor
anu publlSner. An editor chief OF puupr
ne said. has complete control unless there is u
reservation in tho contract. II DR.. TnlmuCe
was edtor-in-chiet Of the Christian al Work
ana there was nothing In the contract TO pre-
vent his exercising full control over the paper
ne mad q right, the witness thought to insert
his Naledictory on Oct .. 1876.
Q.-On the supposition that DR.. Talmage he-
lieved that tho paper was TO b. sold surrcpti-
tiously. and this would be his last opportunity
to secure farewell word 10 his subscribers was
Il right for him to oil duo diligence 10 secure
NE Insertion OF the valediciory in that issue Of
tho paper2 Al should certainly do II myeelf
III he had reason 70 believe that there was such
a scheme on foot. he had tho right. / think no
should have satisfied himself about IT,. Tho cd
itor Is ono thing. the publisher is another. Thu
Tact that an editors views inlure the finances is
no reason why he should stop, provided the
has the legal right 10 insert anything the con.
tract allows him to. whether II is contrary to the
wishcSS, OF the proprietor or not
ers To- leave tho pnper2 A-Circumstances may
make II very proper Tor him 90 do SO. Under al
lhusI any clreuHslancrs thouEn. u would DC
wrong The circumstances must be very OK
traordinary to justify II.
Dr. Prime said that he did not feel called upon
to pnss upon the applicability Of DR.. TalmRges
yaledictory to the general principles hr had de-
lined. He wished to say that It would be- under
would be justified in doing anything that would
be- 70 ne INJURY OF his paper
. DR.. +. >; Porter. formerly editor Of tho Chris
ian infeNgeHcet'. n position he occupied for
sixteen years testified that m cdtor,in-chief
had absolute control over the columns Of tho
cerned. He thought that Il Dr.. Talmage was
cdiior-in-chiet OF the Christian al Work March
o. 1876 lie had right 70 insert his valedirtOry.
or anything else, MP to the last minute he was
editor-in-chief. DR.. Porter said TIM h. wit
nessl was literary editor OF the Christian dt
Work for some time. and knew that the
paper, was much embarrassed financially
He added that 2 conference was held with
him before, DE- Talmaee eft the paper. with
editor OF the paper. He knew II to be- fact
that in the spring Of 1879 il was doubted
week. Major Bright. the managing editor,
had plan TO get DR.. Porter and DR.. Ludlow 10
become editors Of the paper. in case DR.. Tai
mage dropped out. Mr.. Bright acted upon the
conviction that DR.. Talmage would 20 out
Things were uncertain.
DR.. Talnage was then recalled He lowered
himself well down in his chair and in response
to Or. Spears questions. testified: was not
restricted IN any way in the contracts | made
over the columns NV control was absolute.
The maltreatment Of my friends by the man
fgsed me- ndfbon. GS
the paper would stop impedrd the progress oi
the whole editorial Department. II was not
known at what issue Of the paper 1t would stop.
and this financial embarrassment depressed Us
DR.. TalmaRe then road letter from Gen.
Howard, tho publisher and proprietor oi tho
Adrduce in Chicago, in which Gen. Howard de-
Tended the accused pastor from M" lfnfntnf. on
that he lpr Talmagsl had given the stihs.rI f.
ton list of the Chrisfidn a. Horkto tho Adrduce.
Gen. Howard explained TINT the former West
ern agent NJ the Christian al Work. who had been
agenernl agent for books and other ublicntions
besides the Christian A. Work claimed that he
owned and had perfect rleht To- the use ~ sew
eral thousand names which lac had procured in
the way OF his own business and that he Gen.
Howardl made contract with tho agent IN
which he was paid definite ycnrly salary for
his own services md the USE 81 all his names.
An AFFIDAVIT voluntarily made. and sent by
Gen. c. II. Howard. was then offered Mr..
Crosby obected, and said that 10 admit il would
be- y establish the principle that. N the defence
had any Witnesses they lid not want 10 hay"
lar.. Nnff ina all lar had To 10.
them send IN ailidavlts DR.. Van Dyke told the
Moderator u LOOK NJ specified section of tho
book. IL provided for testimony to be taken by
commissions. DR.. Van Dyke offered a resou-
ton referring the affidavit 10 the counsel for
both sides. that interrogaories might be pre-
pared and forwarded 20 Chicago t. he sworn 10
by Gen, Howard. who Is said to ha ~. Mr. Mil
lard offered nm amendment 10 have tho affidavit
read as a letter and that the counsel for the
prosecution have the right to prepare interroga-
tories 10 be sent 10 Gen Howard. the answer, 20
Toe received In evidence in case they were re-
ment and the motion ms amended wero carried
ny large majority. DR.. Van DYKES negative
WAS alone aud BILE.
Il give you notice 81 protest. Moderator"
said DR.. Van Dyke. and in n few minutes hs
read a prot ST, on the ground thnt the Pr"siy
was not a letter. and thar IL had hns"d rs action
upon Q n nssumption which WIS MT true.
ro 1T H ,bH '4sH r"Hn 7G9 sl'l'SNt wnlrh
Howard mnde proposals 10 the Rev. z. DE Witt
IRlmaSe at that time editor in-chief OF the
Adrdnce: that Dr. Talmnge Mt first suggested
that in caac no entered into such an engage
ment 1t should not begin until Noyember 1876
in order that he Or. THlmagel might give To
the Christian NJ Work Association thirty days
notice; but afterwurd he told Mr. Howard that
be- had b"ed credlbly Informed that the Ciris-
tldH at Work was either about 10 he or had nj
ready been sold or transferred 10 other parties
and that this transfer had been made without
consulting or notifying him tDr. Halmngpl; mud
he further told Mr.. Howard that ho Or Tai
magel had give notice some months previous
that he should Leave the Christian al Work in
the autumn Of 1876. and that he had decided to
accept tho olfsr to become the editor Of the Al
rance 10 take effect at once. and write his fare
well ed itOriAl for the Christian At Work imme-
diHtrly that DR.. Talmage dit accordingly i'm
mediately write such editorial. and signed the
engagement u become editor OF the Adrdnce
With his understanding of thu facts. Mr. How
nrd SAID that Dr. Talmage had perfect right To
do this. About the timn OF the engagement Of
DR.. Tamnge MS editor Of tho idrdHce Mr.. How
ard says that he made n contract with the bust
ness manager Of the Christian al II ORR. tAat an
n advertisement OF the Adrduce should be in
serted IN tho next NUMBER OF the Christian
Gt Work. and the advertising manager Of that
paper at the snine time agreed with Mr.. How
ard that such advertisement should be- inserted
in the next number Of the paper. although it
should arrive late. ms WIS Apprehended. since
il was to be stpreOtyped, alter being set in ordi-
nary type. The advertisement was accord ingly
inserted in tho CHRISTIAN a. Work and rs MIR.
Howard WIS informed. n fun edition ot that
pHpcr containing su'h advertisement Was