The New York herald., 1879-02-06

meyer would take theso telcgraniss A. To Colonel
O. Didn't you know that he took them to No. Is
Gramercy Park A. No, sir. . .
O. Did you know that Colonel Pelton lved there
with Governor Tilden (? A. Yes. sir.
D. In that conversation with Governor Tilden, in
which you told him that you regarded your at at
som to robbers, he was quite cross with you, wasnt
he A. Yes. sir; he disapproved of what had done
Q. Well, has he been Just as cross ever since A.
Q. He has exhibited since then the same warmth.
the same tenderness of feeling he showed you be-
fore Iaughter.) A. (smiling) Well. perhaps
quite the publication of these dispatches
O. You told him during that conversation that you
ready to make tho bargain A. Yes, was ready
to make the trade It had had the money.
O. Did Governor Tlden's talk with you imply to
your mind that he knew his nephew haa gone to
meet you at Baltimore? A. Yes, sir
O. Did Mr.. Tilden's discourse awaken any pangs of
your conscience (Laughter.) A. oh. no; only
thought that two stood perhaps, differently with
regard to that matter.
O. When the dispatches published you de-
stroyed those in your possession A. Yes. SIR
| @. You We're conscious how they wonld be re-
garded If they were found A. (5miling) was con-
scious that + did not want them to be found.
| Laughter.)
Colonel Pelton about the matter. A. Oh. yes!
@. Did you ask him whether the dispatches had
they had got hold OF the dispatches and it made very
little difference to me whether they got one word
wrongly or not MEASURING W.T.
Q. In q despatch dated November 16 you say, "Am
confident Florida the State where greatest exerton
should be made" Do you mean the same kind OF
exertion you were making in South Carolina? A.
| do not remember
Q. Not in connection with the Florida and Oregon
operations? A. don't know anything about the op-
erations there.
Q. You finished your operations before the others?
A. Yes.
@. Did you have any special experience that enabled
You to finish up your work first? A. don't think
| that is quite far.
Q. 1t is not fair the others. perhaps It is fair
enough to you. A. Well the files of the Tribune for
some years past show that have had pretty wide
experience. Naughter.)
O. Are these files you mentioned as accurate as tho
present reports? A. Not always. Haughter.)
Q. Did you just pass to Mr. Springer the statement
you had prepared when you came here? A. No, sir;
I will show it to you if you want to see it.
Q. Oh, no! didn't want to hear you read it, A.
Mr. raenu do you say
toward since the publication of these dispatches
A. didn't s,y so; said thought he had not been
cordial toward me; it may be that was little
| disturbed myself.
@. You thought you were not worthy. perhaps. to
! you had done? A. Perhaps So any other good
man. taughter) l may not be tit company for
| men of that class-Congressmen and the like
| q. notice that in all these dispatches you say
nothing about what you now claim a fact-that
Tiden was elected? A. did telegraph and write to
Q. What do you mean by capturing States in
your dispatches A. mean get EN-.
q. That is, get 'em-honestly il you can, but get
| EN-? A. Well. if had had my way I'd have got em
| all; they were all for sae all knew that our
dispatches had been tampered with; dispatches, if
| sent to me. would be picked out and sent to Mr..
| Orton; we had used this knowledge against You !;
that was the reason for using cipher and for my
using the name s. Mead, which is part of my name
long examination followed as to the origin of the
cipher and its use. but the witness was non-com-
| initial.
Q. Do you think Mr.. Pelton acted in his corre-
| spondence with you without consultation with
| others? A. have no doubt of it.
@. And was rebuked by Mr. Tilden on November % ?
A. have not said he told me Mr. Tlden sent for
| him to come home.
| Q. Why had he gone to meet you in Baltimore !?
4 A. He expected somebody to send him the money.
| Q. Who -? A. Mr.. Edward Cooper. understood he
had conversation with Mr.. Cooper the night before
| he started.
Further the witness said that when he received
| the despatch Expense will be met. he understood
| it to be an assent to his proposition.
| Q. Then you understood Pelton to authorize you
| to buy up the Returning Board of South Carolina
| without consulting other persons? A. don't think
| you should use those words.
| Q. But do use just these words A. Then have
nothing to say about it, excepting that understood
that he returned affirmative reply to questions.
| The committee then took recess until eight
| O'Clock.
When Mr. Hiscock resumed his cross-examination
of Mr.. Weed all the available seats occupied by
| well known faces in political circles Ex-Minster
John Biselow attentive listener to the give
lips of the examiner and Witness. aud exCongress.
| man Cavanaugh occupied seat to the left Of Mr..
Chairman Hunton; anu evidently enjoyed the verbal
| sparring that took place between Mr.. Reed and Mr.
few minutes after eight p NJ the cross-examina.
ton resumed by Mr.. Hiscock. as follows:-
| Q. Did understand you to say that you had re-
| ceved telegram from General Gordon at Baltimore!
| A. do not think that said anything Of the kind.
O. What is meant by matters arranged by Return
ing Board agent. Inform Haskell and telegraph
| newsY'' A. There are no such words in the cipher
and do not know their meaning.
O. In the next despatch Of November 20 what is
meant by Have Bath hold on to Cuba until York or
| April2" A. cannot remember the meaning of the
| words.
O. win you say that "Bath" did not mean
| "CourtT A. will not say so, as l am not sure.
O. Is the translation given correct9 A. say that
| the translation absolutely false.
anythine about itS A. remember that NV commu.
| ncation not of that rendering.
q. If you cannot remember anything about it how
can you cay that IL is not correct? A. remember
| that sent no despatch of similar substance.
O. Turn to No. 80, that reads 'Send 5000 immedi-
ately to HASKELL, &c. Is that in the same cipher!
| A. 1t has that appearance
Q. Is the translation correct A. 1t is not prop
erly rendered; know that never received any de-
| spatch with such meaning
o. Was the despatch received by anybody else A.
am sure nobody else could have translated it, as
| they would not have been able to understand it.
Q. How is it that money was required in that part
of the country? A. There were good many things
| State and other matters.
q. Let us go on to despatch 81. dated November
| 21-"Pope answered you last night &c" Do you re-
member receiving that !? A. l do not remember re-
| ceving it.
| o. Are you sure you did not receive it {? A. have
my doubts about all of these dispatches and shall
| doubt them unless see the copy produced.
O. In despatch 81 the word bath Is used in man.
that it must obviously moan "Courty A. do not
| see that.
| O. II cannot mean Board Of Canvassers. that
bad adjourned? A. did not say that it had ad-
journed.
@. Is the translation to despatch 80 correct? A.
do not think IL il correct.
| Q. In what is It incorrect? A. do not know any
| thing about ii; 1 have recollection about IL.
q. What have you got to say about the despatch at
the top of the page-"Expcnse is too heavy for tho
electoral ticket, &C.. A. should say it was not
| root.
q. II you do not recollcct the cipher how can you
say ii is not correct? A. think il is wrong; to the
best of my belief IL is wrong; have distinct
recollection that did not receive any such despatch.
| Q. Referring to despatch "a. did you send that
| TO Colonel Haskell? A. l do not think sent any
| such despatch; will not swear that did not send
such cipher despatch but If did the trans ation
| is wrong.
| q. Was there anybody else in New York that knew
| the cipher? a. did not impart ii to any one.
Q. Have You any recollection of receiving despatch