New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-02-06

that rendering con aims the main the substance OF
though a. said awhile ago II shond he governed en-
trely by my recollection. should say that the amount
was 10000 instead of 10000 The portion OIL mat
reads .. For Gods sake let it go if YOU can" Is SO
printed th, Translation a. to make one understand
that was anxious to nave 1t go by giving them the
money. That = the way II Is printed here. ihe way IL
and no capital b. NV idea not 10 do this II n were
possible to get The ohcr two States That Is the dc'
Thc Chairman meaning YOU wanted TO get at
10 accept that proposition II lhel couu w. H'io
IN the her States A-Tdat is what | meant; lhdi Is
what intended TO telegraph The original dispatch Is
very plainly signed NJ for W ~ , ,.,
as n kew 10 these tiphersl Al never used hut one
! cipher-not when 1 was in south Carolina OF Norm
Q|iiave you examined what is said to he the key
OItnn Won recognize it as the key Won used? Al
cannot recognize II except its working works ont IN
v,anv c,srs suistautialv correct rendition Of what
meant. do recollect II as matter OF memory Bnt
the modus opeInndi OF the Transportation OF words rec
olect. Just exactly what number were anSposed 10
! Q~It was what you call transpostou cipheri A
Yes sir. There certain words for certain things
and these words were trunsposed, but no" they We're
transpoSd and what particular word IN that cipIer
meant should b. entirely unahlt 20 de'tfmhC -,
Q.-Can yon point ont any transntion OF dispatches
! scnj from Baltimorc3 Al think did. The first was
Mr sprinscr--Whal is the correct rendering OF that
| The Wiiness-I cannot tell you. 1t had something 10
do with co.rt matters. The words were woris 81 hr
| meant one thing: "tcH" meant another; " London
meant another. Z" agent meant another and 50 on
0Iwhat dIspatch are yon talking aboutl A-No 9s
page 81 have aceady spoken lit. As say 10 YOU
Wien pit there they wanted To be IN communication
with the National Committee with reference 10 ccrlan
Irri ur.ccr,liups that had been commenced at that
lime. aud made an arbitrary cipher could NOT say
/ VITA vnom communicated hui from the rect that
directed to Gordon | should say tat tele,
reference to 9nything like the purchase OF the HelnIn
| ms Board anything connected with II IN any way
suapc form II was simply reiltng to me legal pro
that had the other Geographic cpher want 10 CdI
attention To the tact that there Is nisrht Ill that
! Mr RECRUIT the Inference drawn ny THE TRIBUNE
from ". correct you were The author OF 1t
The Wltncss-l do not know what inference 'H'5 Ora"
NJ Reed Don't YOU know that they accuse Won OF
having sent II Al do not know whether they accuse
| me Pclion OF having sem It, ,.
Nc Reed-You ,hat they have got 1t W. and that /
should DE NJ They inter tuat were The author 81 IT,
Then that Inference is correct an hough the ietler Is
misprintedi A.-Ihe Two dispatches were sent ny me
from Baltimore 10 General Gordon.
Mr.. springer-inE TRIRrNF has translated TINS dis
natch "a follows trradng No. 30. VIII YOU please
tTac whether that translation is correct Alt IS
Mr sprincer-what idea did you mean 10 convey in
connection with that dlspatcnl A.-Ihe only impress
sion meant convey was with reference - The pro
cecdngS of the court l. had no reference TO matters
between solomon and myself.
TIE WITNESSES INFIRM MEMORY.
Mr.. springer-Who WAS Popei Al don't remember
MI SprUEer-Nou dd not send any dispatches t. any
! body named POpel Al cannot remember. That was
a part Of the arbitrary cipher WAC Pope was, whether
Haskell Kennedy or whoever II was, cannot tell CO.
ouel Haskell was chairman Of The Democratic State
COMMITTEE of that State during that tine Attcr TINS
length OF time cannot say. There was a man named
Pope, prominent man, a Democrat and a lawyer iiV
ing III Columbia, out don't believe IL "'s he. thnk II
was a portion OF the cipher.
Mr. Sprin- showed he witness g dispatch. The Wit
ness after looking at H. sad: have 40 recollection
of receiving it, ST. was here at the Everett House
have no doubt hat the dispatch Wa. opened 10y am body
who happened to be at headquarters"
The Chairmau-You THE TRIBUNE's rendering II
] 81 do oh
any disnatcn your translation of which woud be that
made Uy 1HE TEIBCNEl A.-That cannot saw As
have sand there money wanted hy these gentlemen
South TO DO the printing for general purposes, aud thai
was the object Of the dIspatch-to see whether could
RAISE the money. Ny recollection - that there was 40
such sum ~ - 600 named. 1t have been $1,000
This the dispatch TO which reference was made:
CoLtNGrA Noy 20
SMITH WED, crrc Of Kiag ErrrCg Ho'sS y -:
tc get Nap es House aud = MAJ bun June can make
postponed. Will remain III Bath and make Cuha Jan
| uay. lOiL'
Send 5000 immediately TO Haskell February q cx-
poet TO get majority House and = senate; but 5000
can make majority Democratic. inns VIII mahe Court
all right Electoral canvass postponed Will remain III
! court and make electoral vote Democratic
! The Chaiimau-The understanding was that he money
was To De used exclusively for these purposes Alb
i'm getting Witnesses and afidavIts against the other
side Taey send all over the state and get ali -
don dId-saylng they were poor, ana that the National
COMMITTEE ought to help il they could did try, and
Oh had no reference to buying at all A.-Not the
CT had no reference to buying any member OF the
LEGISLATURE. A.-NOt the ica-t
/ iluiIropc pm poses Whatever.
Inc Cmrman-MI.N Ted VIII you turn 70 The next one,
ON wage 81. DO lUcGlrct receiving any such CIs
patcn tnatf ANo. sir nave no recollection Of 1t
whatever
Q."ind yon ever slgn dispatch Meadl" Al do
| middle name II il very likely sent H.
! Q-Thcse teegams yon recognize as copies OF DIS
/ dispatches l that tact 10 appear. They were
handed copies or the FLORIDA dispatches. That
il why / refer to the fact There = on" FLORIDA dis
| patch there i'm nv handwriting 10 FLORIDA, BuI do
ioi fld any except that do not remember
Mr. sInngcr~Mr. Weed. in THE TRIBUNE publication
on nl.e = is stated with reference yoIr acts
rs south Carolina Is concerned, rs follows: "Sub>c-
qucutly a plot 10 NEG 10 buy four members the
/ tg", o6ta,ncd controI OF the STATE Gcycrnmc,i {.
Hayes eeclor- IN jan, and lock them ny in
stalaf" cells untIi the day casting the Electoral
! yoics had passed" Ntajc whether any such plot vas
known to you arranged by with reference o hi,
matter: A-N'n, whatever. 1t J. tialrd hcfe IN The
lcA that thc lair inference IS thai tn dispatches
tHat had to do with II. But when you come To-
read dispatches from HIN 10 me- II VIII be seen that
/ had NotniEg to do with il.
Did YOU az the Inn" nave any knowledge OF plot
I ni mat KIND A.--\o sir.
Q|Wnrn nave you since leaned OF such plot having
ben formed If there vas one? Al hay" no rrCOlcC-
ZION o having heard anything Of ~ until rca il IN s
book or ,one Of me pnor publications Of lit IRIbiNh
Mr.. Springer lar You re concern Il, that slate
mont j. tutiIely without foundation A-Entrcly 30
! The Cnarman-IS d! entirely without foundation, so
| faI as yen have heiyu / Aye, sir
me CGinInan-lr. Wce,, lhc FIST .dspaten tele
1 glr uhcf ncr. your own han1wrIu@ Is numbered III
! TINS uouk y, addressed to Henry Havcmevcr ana
signed =. i thai telegram Translated pro "iy il I'M
! Tmn NLl Al dc not know, r. / Ou'y rocked at Tie
book ten fifteen minutes. had 40 interest III LOOK
Inc d!,ratcn referred 30 was here read:
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COLUMEIt 5. Nov. lG.
| HENRY HAvEWrYrR - tCst I'm ST., Atr-i 0TE:
/ France MuhCil" over man greatest ilvtf WIND AIN
Rhine eNrrtlunS there mi ~ Eot here Hm power
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