The New York herald., 1879-03-28
DR.. IALNAGE SCORES ONE.
A Witness for the Prosecution Who
Greatly Benefited the Defence.
JUSTIFICATION, NOT DECEIT.
The Tabernacle in Glory and Common
Fame" Confused

In the trial of Rev. T. Dewitt Talmage before the
Brooklyn Presbytery yesterday the developments
were of more interest than any previous day.
The entire session devoted to the cross-exami-
nation Of Mr.. T. Remington. who had been brought
forward by the prosecution to establish the irregu-
lar method of DR.. Tamage's retirement from the
| editorshp of the CAristiaa at Work The witness
was at the time chief owner of the paper His
| examination conducted with great skill by Drs
Spear and Millard. counsel for the defence. and
suited in annihilatine tho effect of tho direct
testimony. The witness gradually led
into admitting that DR.. Talmage was al
most, il not quite, excusable for resigning
his editors chair in the way he did, since negotia
| tions had been making for the sale OF the paper
without his knowledge and to his unwarned-of dot
riment. These revelations gave immense satisfac-
| ton to the members of the Tabernacle. who daily
attend the trial in large numbers. Mr.. Remington's
cross-examination will be resumed at three o'clock
| this afternoon.
! A PARALLEL HISTORY.
] In the midst of one OF his sensational revels not
| long ago tho active opponent of religious stag
nation took the liberty of comparing himself
| to St. Paul st. Paul to himself. each
| to 'the other. II accused Of being
sensational preacher" said he $50 st. Paul"
| The Brooklyn Presbytery have furnished occasion
| for extending the comparison. st. Paul gor into
heap of trouble has DR.. Talmage. st. Paul
superior to adverse surroundings. and if yesterday
may be taken an index. will DR.. Talmage. Just
| now speculation upon the result of the trial is
limited to the defendant and outside parties. His
prosecutors. or, he terms them. his "rval breth
rem of the Presbytery, at present too much ab
sorbed in the delights Of the exhibition to surrender
their minds up to sober speculation. On the first
| day of the proceedings 1t became apparent that
pastoral not the least of the important
results to follow the arraignment. There was
grain too much of levity in those early trsnsac.
tions but by an impartial sprinkng of personali-
the members Of the Presbytery have been trained
down something like fighting trim 1t will bitterly
disappoint the patrons of the enterprise If some
lively not presently enacted within the
| walls OF the Clinton Street Church.
| UNwANING INTEREST.
There is no diminution in the attendance at the
trial save that occasioned by the curtaiment the
churchs capacity. Even yesterday stormy weather
made reduction i'll the number of onooers. Clouds
failed to darken the briliancy of this ecclesiastical
event and rain drops could not dampen the ardor Of
| the Presbytery. curious feature of the trial is
that the same people appear to attend from day to
day and to occupy the self same seats. Additional
room has boon reserved for the Presbytery. tho at
tendance OF members being about thirty-hve oUt OF
possible fifty. They present venerable front from
the large proportion Of silvered heads among them.
| supplemented by > conspicuous quantity OF eye
brows and white Sgavats: They form. as it were.
the OF sppe (of dscord), to which the hand.
'some ladies round about add tempting surfac,.
DIR. Talmagc merely said yesterday what he said
his word He was present in the spirit and the
flesh, most OF the time porting over book of memo
ssSse sSs s the H
expressive smile. which changed to look OF dis
| dain when his eyes encountered certain OF his OPP
ponents. to OF Affection he turned to glance
! ut his faithful helpmeet in the front pew. He
constantly receiving little folded slips of paper
| members OF his congregation and personal friends.
THE IHrRoDUcroRY OVERTURE.
bytery was called to order by Moderator Ludlow,
| who asked the Divine guidance in the proceedings.
Roll call and reading OF the minutes followed. As
very much the same people are present every day
tho time occupied by the clerk il this routine busi-
ness is occupied by everybody else in an inspection
their neiehoors and OF the distinguished person.
on or near the platform. Dr. Van Dyke received
| the first recognition from the Moderator and pre-
sented hls protest against the decision Of tho
Presbytery on Wednesday in their adherance to the
established laws OF evidence. He read from an i'm
posing bundle of manuscript argument against
the adoption of code Of techncaties by which the
law often protected at the expense OF equity.
He claimed 1t was in to the spirit at least
of tho Presby terian book of discipline The three
newspaper interviews which the prosecution
desired to. put in evidence constituted what
was termed in law "a violent Presumption
| in favor Of their own truthfulness. He concludsd
with statement the technical laws Of evidence
vol AZ the ingenuity OF professional counsel
being employed to defeat the objects of the trial.
was received in the usual way and entered the
| MR. PENNINGTON ON THE STAND
| Mr.. L. Remington the former chief Of the
Chrtstian at Work. was put upon the stand for con-
tinued crossexamination. Before going on with the
questions the witness asked to modify reply he had
made the previous day. 1t was In reference to the
witness having negotiated with another minister
before the leaving OF Dr. Talmage and without his
knowledge. He desired to say that his interview
with Dr. Taylor with regard TO special
Tor the paper and not to his succeeding pr. Taase
| as editor.
| Before dipping into his catechism Dr. Spear told
the that he desired to repeat his preliminary
apology for anything he might to injure his iec
IL do not know Dr. Spear that an insult is any the
less insult for having disclaimer attached to IT,
Dr. Spear replied that he had no intention of in
sultng the witness. He then took up the advertise
Tor the sale of the CAristian at Work. published
in the HERALD OF July IL, 1878, and signed "a. L.
| Ford" fl 1874
q. Was the Christian at Work at that time paying
q. Was returning fair interest upon the capital
| invested? A. II was not
q. Then, what did you mean by the terms of this
adycrtiscrient-"s paper having good circulation
and large advertising latronagcY' A. did not write
o. Did not this Mr.. Afford or Mr.. A. L. Ford give
you some information i'll regard to the advertise
mont? A. lie enclosed to Inc IN letter. to tho beat
q. Was Dr. Tamage ono of tho joint owners of
the paper at that timer a. lie was the owner of one
q. After hnding that this ambiguous advertise
ment referred TO the christian at Work did You con-
! fer with Dr. Talnage about itf A. I did not.
e. Then this advertisement Tor the sale of tho
paper without tho knowledge or consent OF DR..
| Taimasc? A. Ii was
e. And with your knowledge aud consent tho
thrfaun df Wof& advertised for sale In all the
leading papers of New York N disguised form and
false name some three months before DIR.
Taimages withdrawal ~ That the fact as you
state II. but not n regard it,
Counsel for the prosecution attempted to interfere
with this method OF examination. but the Moderator
told them witness could have an opportunity of an
swcring iii his own way the redirect examination.
O. We're Dr. Taliuage and yourself the only owners
| OF stock in the summer OF 1876? A. No, sir.
| O. Who were the others intcrestcdr A. Mr. Haw-
ley. Mr.. Dickinson and Mr.. Bright; do not romem-
Der any others.
O. Now, AIR. Remington want to know II you
have not been n volunteer helper in bringing about
this trial Of DIR. TanagcY A. with efnphasisl-I
have not.
| a. Have you any know ledge that DR.. Talmage in