New-York tribune., 1879-12-11

portunsm hcnceforth will consist in going for
ward" "ln what direction" ] asked, "will
you march " "Oh, straight ahead" he
replied laughing But do not say yoH. Say
the Chambers Well. we have another great over
plus of revenue this year, and We are going to
tighten every sort of tax wine. This will be done
in the interest of the working classes TO whom pure
wine is an absolute necessity. The Empire brutal
lied them by making wine dear. We had dear wine
drunk in the four months of the siege which would
in itself explain the Commune. Our laboring man
can no more do without wine than the Belgian with
out beer. If he cannot have IT. he drinks the poi
sonous brandies extracted from brandy and beet
root and sold at the winners. Zola's Assommoir'
has deep stratum of truth in it, and there
are chapters which political men might with profit
mediate upon. We are also going TO remit alto
gether the tax on farm carts and wagons. which
will facilitate the transport to market products of
agricultural labor and be great boon to peasants
scarcely rich enough to keep horse and cart, and
yet not able to do without Them" :" All that is
good said. 81 like to hear of legislators taking
the poor by the hand.' Ma fol-" answered the
President Of the Chamber, there is no other way
of perpetuatng the exstenceo of the Republic. Uni
veIsal suffrage is not the suffrage of the rich and
highly educated. 1t is the voice of the nOurellos
couctes Sociales and much the for the elder
brethren of the human family if they do not listen
to it, We must adopt and parity the maxim of the
Roman Emperors. Bread and the circusv Cheap
bread. liberty and enlightenment must be our de-
vice. am not opposed to State action. On the
contrary, it can give bencfcent impulson, and 1t
must give good one when the system OF short Par
laments and the liberty of the press and of public
meetings oblgcs it to live in a glass house.
" But State action should repose public opn-
ION not to be tyranny. This is where am at Issue
with the Socialists. You will be acknowledgements
my words-astoundcd at the forward march the
Republic will accomplish next session. All my
ergy will be directed to stimulate committees of the
Chambcr-commttees Of initiative. of study, OF
inquiry, and others-and to cut short noisy,
futile debates. l have to-day gone
with Brisson the work he has turned down
for the Budget Committee. Already we
ave-that is to say the Budget Committees
since 1s66-reduced taxation by 115.000,000
francs while we have brought the Public Instruc-
ton Budget up from 2i.000.000 francs to
5S,000000 francs. remodelled the Army. bought
new artillery created new lines of defences, in
creased the salaries and pensions of officers and -
proved the food of the soldiers. Next year the pub
lie instruction estimates will come TO more than
90 600 900 francs, part of which will be spent in
providing pension funds for schoomasers. building
new lyceums and improving old Ones and--you
TEN of higher instruction for girls"
Gambctta is persuaded that If girls are not edu-
Gated up TO the level of the Republican ideal the
Republic will fall down to their notion of what 1t
ought 10 be. Ii will become disguised monarchy
theocracy, until the time Is ripe for the Pope and
Caesar to advance upon the stage aud invest them
selves with all power. Gambetta said the best adj
vIsers he ever had-not alone as TO the conduct of
his private life, but in politics-were, good
women, whose minds were cmancipated from
sacerdotal tyranny. Tho French woman. in
his opinion, is. marvcllously gifted creature,
and would be. If emaDcpated, simply peerless. 1t
was of vital Importance to the common calth
that the fullest justice should be done to the girl
Talking about the Ministry ,Gambetta spoke with
some warmth OF the attacks published on him in
certain Liberal English journals. He was charged by
them with trying to make the Republic subservient
asked me- for such a charge to be made against
him. His intimate friends could bear witness to
SAINT struggle which he carried on, 1t was
false TO say that he had hampered
Waddington: The truth was that he had
compromised his own popularity by twice saw
ing him from fall. AS President of the Chamber
he had right TO sit in judgment out of the chair
Ministers, when his colleagues came to ask his
opinion. lie had also right to continue in the
Presidency SO long as the Chamber wished him to
remain there. IL was no bounden duty OF his to
become q president Of the Ministerial Council if
Waddincton quilted office OF were evcied from it.
Grevy wOud not be justified In sending for
him unless to ask his advice. The man for
one-no matter whether he called himself
NJ. Brisson, or NJ Floquet, or NJ. Louis Banc-who
had issued yictoriens from I, grea, Parliamentary
combat with the Ministry. the responsibility of
which Gambetta refused in any wise to share.
then asked him what he thought of the foreign
situation. This he did not think as satisfactory as
the home situation. The English Tory Govern
ment had shown taste for fishing in troubled
waters, and might succeed in disturbing Europe
to greater extent than those opposed TO them
feared Ii was disagTeeable to France not to
see the just claims OF Greece more fairly
dealt with. and il was great pity that Lord Derby
sfFstrt. l1t INN
ton the more reckless Beac0nsicld. 1t was also to
be regretted that the German press Judged public
men in France in hostile and utterly unfair
spirit. No doubt France would he delighted to re-
gain the two eastern provinces which she had lost
but she will never 90 to war to wrest them from
Gerlnany-unless, indeed, she falls into the
hands of a Caesar needing pretext
for keeping up military spirit in the
nation. Greyy was specific, Personally, Gambotta
tanned high esteem for the German people. which
was one of the most important factors of modern
peace rather than war. Another war would throw
the Republic back twenty or thirty years. unless
France, which was not probable. was crowned with
laurcls AT the end Of a seven days campaign.
Gambctta spoke of the Ministry as containing
excellent elements, but being wanting III discre-
tiOn." De Frcycinct was an ideal Minister OF the
Public Works Lepcre was an able and an honest
man COchery had an administrative genus and
was staunch Republican, Everyone liked Kim and
spoke well Of hiT What then b j., was ot, wanted
were In q majority. would be the right in the
right place. We're Grevy. Thiers he would also be
an excellent head of Cabinet But as
things stand, he does not give full salts
faction 20 Parliament. Who, | asked. will
be his successor. That" SAID Gambetta, depends
on the Chamber and OH NJ. Gr6vy. Rut 1 think If
the Ministry is defeated, NJ Brsson. the head of hc
Budget Committee VIII be sent for to the Elysce.
He will in all probability lead the assault. The Re
public will be in safe hands under him. His
probty is notorious and well tested. He
comes OF an honest and q patriotic race
aud lac has always regarded his duties
as public man from an elevated point of
view. lie and Gievy wOuld agree very well to-
gcther. They are old friends, and have been always
on the same side" +" Aud If you are asked to form