The New York herald., 1879-12-09
ULTIMATUMS EXCHANGED.

COMMISSIONERS HATCH AND ADAMS DEMAND
THE GUILTY UTEs FOR THE LAST TIME AND
oURAY STATES UPON WHAT CONDITIONS HE
WILL SURRENDER THEM--A DRAMATIC CRISIS
SHALL THE MURDERERs BE TRIED IN COLOR
ADO?
DENVER Col. Dec. 8. 1879.
Special dispatches to the Denver Tribune from
Los Pinos. dated the 6th represent that Saturday
witnessed some decidedly animated occurrences at
the Commissioners meeting After Jack had de-
clined to inform the Commissioners what Indians
had been concerned in the White River massacre.
the Indians retired to Ourays house to debate what
course to pursue. No Indians appeared at the
agency till Saturday. but they to have been
gagged. at Ourv's in conducting the widest dances
and In making fiery speeches. man was sent
from the agency to Ourays with feed for the horses
OF the Indians. aud discovered from the noise the
inside that the Indians greatly excited Those
that he saw were bedecked in feathers and war
paint and he was frightened that he turned back
and did not deliver the hay.
AN ULTIMATUM.
On Saturday. at noon. the Utes came into the
agency and took seats inside the agency building
Jack, Colorow and twelve other White River
When the Indians and the Commissioners
had taken seats General Hatch addressed
the Indians setting forth the full demands of the
Commissioners their right to make the demands
and the patience already exercised with the Utes
To-day" he said. "is your last chance. We will
wait no longer. We want your final answer. and We
want no evasions. The list of the Utes charged by
the agency women in taking part IN the massacre
then read and the question put by General
s y0I M r S sne men whose
and II innocent acquittedY' The question was put
twice. aud after consultation svasive were
returned both times. When the question
peated the third time Ouray replied, without con-
sulting the other Utes "How do we know that these
Indians you were at White River at the time OF
know they were concerned in It. These women men,
toned names which came first to their lips. whether
cannot depend on what they say "fhat is what we
depend on said General Hatch.
A MENACISG SCENE.
General Adams then addressed the Indians, making
q speech of hours duration, saying. among
other things that the Commissioners did not want
to punish Colorow. Jack and others who took part
in the Thornburgh fight. but the cowardly dogs who
participated in the of the unarmed men at
the agency closing by saying I'VE want those Utes
The Indians held q consultation in low tones
among themselves. but did not seem inclined to re-
ply ut ALL when General Hatch again rose and asked
If the guilty Indians to be surrendered saying
he had made the last appeal.
Colorow lighted big pipe-the ''pipe OF peace"
Each Indian present drew his knife and laid 1t
his knees, the question Of peace Or war being the
next man without smoking. and It went
round the circle: Whom the circle was I'm
up his full height. pulled his belt around until
the knife sheath was in front. and. snatching his
knife ont. threw it quvering and ringing upon the
hoor Instantly every Indian present laid his hand
upon his knife pistol-the whites following their
example, The two parties stood fronting and defy
the other to make forward move. There were but
six whito men in the room. while the Indians num-
bered twenty-five though there were fifteen soldiers
in an adjoining room.
oURAY's CONDITION.
FINALLY Ouray spoke:-"we cannot deliver mp
they must not be tried in Colorado. The
to give them up to be tried in this
would hang them. We will bring those twelve men
here for you to see, and then those whom you de-
President shall determine their guilt or innocence.
Douglass will have to go; we know he in the
White River troubles. and you shall decide who else.
Upon this condition and other will we surrender
the twelve men,
The chief spoke with great arrogance and bold
Ouray added that it would require about week to
bring the men in. General Hatch told him he no
copied the proposition far as bringing the in
ton, he would nave first to telegraph Secretary
Schurz to get permission to do SO before he could
agree to take the Indians East.
BITTER INvECTvE.
Colorow ana Jack were immediately despatched to
bring in the twelve Indians named. including Doug
lass and Persune. They said they would return in
Ave days. After they had gone Ouray again spoke.
reitsrating his statement that the Ues could get
Justice in Colorado and could only get It in Wash
ington. "You three" said Oursy (meaning Gen.
erals Hatch and Adams and their legal adviser.
valos). 'are all my enemies am ono against three.
men and French devil. have not friend
among you. You will not give me justice. aud that
is why want to go to- Washington. where can