The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1879-12-29
From the Indians.

3. ~. j., 80 From the Indians.
ARRIVAL OF oURAT WITHOUT THE UfE PRISON.
ERs-THE COMMISSION gSDIGSAST-THAr.
Mr.. HATCH SAYS.
DENVER Coll, December GA special
from Los Pinos says: Ouray came IN
yesterday afternoon and the commission
went promptly into session. He had
promised bis colleagues att; be last meeting
TO send them word as som as Somerwick
arrived, but later came uf to the agency,
and was here several hours before the news
OF his arrival reached tue commission.
"Upon the question being asked, .Ouray,
where aretb prisoDers!' be affected great
surprise, and said he had not understood
that the commission wanted the Indians as
prisoners of war. and ha0 cot thought any
OF them were to be tried, but had thought
all were 10 go 20 Washington, to have a
talk with the Great Father Oh tie subject of
their wrongs.
"Now, iHaymucb as the principal difficulty
that the, commission has been struggling
with was 10 induce the Indians to give
themselves up for trial, and as they bad
finally consented upon The condition they
should not be tried in Colorado, this affecta-
ton OF misunderstanding the wishes OF the
commission was too much for even the pa
thence OF General Hatch, and for tie second
time since the converting OF the commission
he lost his temper, and foT the first time be
lost confidence in the final success OF his ef-
forts. Last night be expressed himself to
the effect that be did not believe Ouray had
the power to enforce the surrender OF the
Utes.
He has. think, finally given up the hope
that the Indians will be surrendered, and is
making preparations to start out; and
Ouray was not reproached by him for any
display Of bad faith or with direct lying,
but was told by Hatch that he would start
on the 18th for Alamosa, and would remain
one day at the station On the Cimmason,
twenty-five miles distant, and should he
choose to deliver up the Indians there upon
the goth they would be received. Ouray
then began to entertain the commission with
stories OF the men who had been frozen and
lost in the effort to get out st this season.
a childish plan to deter Hatch from leaving.
He evidently fears the consequences to his
tribe should Batch leave without the prison
ers, as he evidently cannot persuade or
force the Utes TO deliver themselves up.
The last five days given Ouray makes the
sum total OF twenty-onc days time given
to the Utes. [ make no predictions as to
the result this time, seeing Hatch Is deter
mined that the Utes may possibly decide 10
give themselves up; but whether they do or
do not, Hatch will leave On Sunday. and il
he leaves without the prisoners there will
be war. 1t has been impossible TO obtain
heretofore full list OF The names OF the
twelve Utes who arc TO be tried at Fort
LeayenWorth from the commissioners, and
it has been equally impossible to ascertain
when these twelve are to be tried, for the
testimony OF Meekers, as given to the press,
convicts only few OF them OF crime. This
list is frequently referred to By the commits
sioners and attaches in connection with Ger.
tain Indians, and always with n Star list
What this list is l cannot say positively, but
from hints dropped by members OF the com.
mission, and stray remarks made by them
when they imagined reporters we're not on
the alert, | am confident the 'Star' list
contains the names OF those Indians who
committed 4 crime worse than murder OF
arson--a crime which Is spoken OF only
with bated breath, and which has not as yet
even been hinted q. by the newspapers.
"It is well known that the story OF the
women rs given to the public and their tes-
timony under oath differ widely, and crimes
of which they accuse the Indians in their
sworn testimony would suffice to hang any
man, Of whatever color, without Formally
OF trial, in the twinkling Of an eye. Tha
this list contains the names OF those indiana
who are accused Of this namcless CRIME to
ward the defencclcss women is not sud
den conclusion, but one which has been ar
rived at after careful consideration, ant
which will he fully supported when thu
trial OF the miscreants takes place. Doug
las and Persume areknownito be OF TIT
names contained in The list, but other name
can only be obtained at the time OF tn
trial."
A dispatch from Santa Fe says: eighty
four Apaches have surrendered to tn
troops in Arizona"