The New York herald., 1879-08-25

"Yes; it all broken up and was no good. He
did not pull ten Yards in his old style"
Il guess you will have to take Ned in hand again?
I'VE cannot. our business will not permit of IL.
We achieved our object and will always give him our
advice: but he must have some one to manage his
affairs and training. for we cannot"
Your representative made his to Mr..
Wards oflice. and found him at home He readily
entered into conversation upon the charges.
"what do you think OF Judge Elliotts state
"Do you notice that there Is not plain statement
in the whole affair except that about Ross and to
that statement Ross has already given tho he
well all the rest is TRADE OF unprovoked abuse
and Ii he had over his own sig
made the charges We would have known how
to deal with him. but there is nothing but insinua-
ton"
You said to have invited Elliott to be of
the inner circle.
81 did notn pg of tho kind. When saw Judge
to England with ms, we might neod him;
just as might have said it to you."
.'Was it "a serious invitation?"
1T was an invitation of this kind-that we would
have enjoyed his company. and thought he might
have enjoyed ours. We could have had good time
together"
.rhen there no invitation to engage in spocu-
lationY
None whatever. That invitation was simply like
time!"
..Did nythins occur at New York to mar the har-
moIy that up to that time existed between you the
club and Judge Eott|'
Nothing Whatever. Why, Mrs. Elliot. could not
thank me enough for undertaking to look after her
the voyage over did not want the RESPONSE
bll:ty OF looking after the youngster and told them
ii he wanted curbng But the father and mother
could not place too iauch confidence IN me- So l
took the young man over and confded him to
Colonel Shaw by agreement"
Had this young man anything to do with the
Judges animus?'
mot that know Of. The money advanced by me
to the son went against the boat sent to England
and il Colonel Shaw has anything Of the kind unset
tied have no doubt that it has notcaused the ILL
feeling"
Then is it the fact of your not using the Judges
boat that has opened his eyes to the enormities of
It is difficult to say what occasoned the GOODNESS
between my crossing and recrossing the Atlantic.
That we did not nse the Judges boat is the only
reason know Of"
"what induced you first of all to 60 to the Judge
well. Colonel Shaw recommended US. and we
wanted the best that money could buy. SO We were
willing to try every maker OF reputation"
"What Is your experience OF Judge Elliotts
boats?"
"The frst he sent to row in against Plaisted
was little beauty-as nice boat US any one could
| wish for"
| And the one for the Morris raceY'
'Was Use to any man for racing"
Elliott built the boat in which Hanlan rowed. when
| he really rowed in . Swaddle boat?-
lit went to the world and we allowed 1t to go
contradicted have been sorry for that since.
| and 80 have oil.
| "How the impression made that Elliott's boat
..That cannot tell but it was made. think our
feeling at the time that the Judge had made
bunder in the boat. and would not be likely to re-
peat it..
'It was not that you would get boats from the
Judge for advertising his build OF boatY'
mo, sir We never got boat as present from the
Judge. We paid tor every one or them. For Mon
treal ordered the Needlegun speci6ca-
tions. The Judge sent on boat OF his own ideas.
the Needleguu which he said he made present to
me personally. thought the old fellow was be-
having very generously % and $50 50 tried to sell the
shell for sign. sold him the hull for $16O. and
paid Judge Elliott that amount. less about $40 for
duty. He would have been satisfied with $l0O, so
that shows il we treated him well not The other
boat u private matter"
"Did she suit Ned?"
swell, don't like even now to look gift horse in
the mouth. but at all events We managed to fx her
up and she suited us well enough"
"What is your honest opinion Of these boats?"
"Why, we've man in Toronto who can build bet
ter shell than tho best the Judge turned out for
| us. We had Ave from him. only two OF which were
lit for oarsman to sit in. We rowed each
OF those two-the races with Plasted and Courtney
and tell you honestly that it WAS handicap TO do
| so.
"You paid for all the club shells from ElliottY'
| "For every OF them, and higher price, too,
than the oarsmen say that they have paid.'
"What about the boat sent to England?"
That - bargeT
"What?'
"lt was the worst boat ever saw leave builders
bands. WneD took her out OF the box you should
have my llp fall Jim.' said, she'll not do
Heasey said nothing, but looked disgusted. Ned
sick on my hanus. and were we depending
duplicate OF the Needlegun to find barge sent to
BY hard talking got Swaddle to quit WORK on u
boat he was building and he turned US out with
which were satisfied"
s'Was the model of the boat sent to England or
the construction her only fauit?
"No. She weighed thirty-seven and a-half pounds.
about seven pounds more than the Neediegun,
and the weight more than the boat subse-
quentiy built for US NY swaddle which was about
loot longer"
Then she goodY'
"Uuerly unit for Hanlan. and no good as a racing
boat for any one. She so bad that Hanlan would
not use her as practice boat nor would have let
him had he been willing Colonel Shaw would not
have countenanccd 1t either and he cannot be
pected of trying to injure fellow countrymans
business"
You did not show the boat to Jewitty"
mo: went to levitt and he refused to make
o boat for us on other than his own lines"
'.He made the hog backed boat for Hanlan?'
"He did. asked him to make q bottom such
described to him. he told me he had been building
racing boats tor twcnty-sx years, think. aud knew
his own business. We would take his boat want
1t. he did not which SO wanted 1t, and went
to Swaddle. BY the way. said to Eliotts son,
What has your father Leen stter2 The son looked
at the boat and replied, My father never made that
boat hims elf. -
..Now don't you think that you are hard on hotts
boatsY
II not. was willing that he should remain
friend. He elects to be enemy. Let him be 80.
He mputes dishonesty to me by saying that gave
away the lines OF his boats. tell you wnat think
of hs boat. He has invited this by his conduct. 1
bear no enmy to him-I have too much sehrespect
for self to ueconie his enemy. He makes u false
statement to the public and brand it untruth.
The public knows now what is tbe TRUTH and DEFY
him any else to contradict oath what 1
have said. There are limits to human endurance,
and we have about got to our limits"
Don't you think that you have provoked public
criticism by the exciusveness with which your af-
fairs conducted p
"Whether we have provoked 1t or not is ques-
tion. II is different thing whether not public
curiosity Ought to to be satisfied regarding the at
fairs OF private club. Mark you. our club
formed tor the benefit OF Edward Hanlan, and it
conducted tor his benefit well that he has had the
net proceeds OF all our labors."
Ibid your winnings not aggregate highY'
''rhey did not. 1 could have made more money
at my business. I aid not clear more than $5uo on
ali my market speculations in England. This poor
remuneration tor tour months work. and 1t
work"
..why not make affidavit against these chargesg'
''Dccause they not made legally. Let the
who dares make charges III such way that he
held responsible for his and wall guarau-
tee that he will regret 1t to the last day of his fe
"What do you meany"
'simply this, that will bring tho matter before