The New York herald., 1879-02-05

the number reduced to 10000. but he might be mis-.
taken in his idea that that sufficient force and
he had therefore moved TO make it 20.000 which
evidently sufficient tor the needs of the country he
was opposed TO the doctrine that because there
little bread riot in Baltimore elsewhere the
federal army be called in to suppress il. That
duty belonged TO the State militia.
Mr.. wHrrrHolSE deinl OF Tenn. moved to
duce the number to la,oOo and argued in favor of
better organization OF the militia. which the
sure reliance of popular government. The people
should be taught that tho country relied upon them
for protection.
Mr.. WAIT. (rep.) of Conn.,. opposed the amendment
1t was idle to talk about relying on the militia. III
the Western States there was no well organized mill
tia 1t would be much better to increase the army
to 1000.
MIR. CoSeEn (rep.) of Mich. surprised that his
friend from Tennessee (Afr. Whitthornel had neg
ected to mention the navy of the bulwarks OF
the nation. That. gentleman had been for several
years Chairman OF the Committee on Naval Affairs.
and had spent his vacations i'll building up the navy
of the United States, and he Mr. Conger) aston
ished TO learn from the gentleman that the navy
formed no part OF the defences OF the country. He
wished that there chairman of the Naval Com
mittee who would stand by the navy and honor and
giorify IT. How pleasantly foreign nations would
Naval Affairs OF the United States House of Repre-
sentatves when in speaking of national defences he
had not alluded 10 the navy at all.
Mr.. WHrrTHoRSE of Tennessee replied that since he
had read the remarks of .he Senator from Maine mr.
Baine-if he had had no other prior conviction on
the subjcct--he would have been that there
navy TO talk about. II might be that he had that
opinion now. but he would say to his friend from
militia he had used it referring to the body of the
people. from whom recruited the forces on land
and sea. 1t to the people he looked tor defence
rather than to any organized force He believed that
all governments should depend upon the support
and affection and patriotism OF the citizens; that
support would give nerve and strength to it's army
whenever emergency called for it and required it.
He had hostile feeling to the army,
but he had love tor the popular institutions of the
country, and, relying them, he believed for
that the people OF the United States would in future
march forward in snch progress as had never been
nall ~ in tlp paet of la Ia ~
that the people might be trusted he would provide
for no agency force whatever for the support OF
the government beyond what necessary pro-
tcct its property and defend it against foreign
enemies.
After long debate in which the democrats, with
the exception OF the representatives from Texas.
favored the amendment aud the republicans opposed
it, the vote taken on Mr.. Whitthorne amendment
and it was defeated.
Mr.. Cox, (dcm.j Of n. Y, moved to amend by fixing
the force "a, II Ooo His friend from New York (Mr.
HEWITT had given AZ tho reason why the bill pro-
vided for 25 900 that the would not agree to
what the House demanded. He Mr. Cox did not
lay much emphasis on that sort OF reasoning The
House the popular branch, and should be first
consulted and always consulted upon the consum-
nation of legislation of this kind. He reason
why this army of 25,000 should be kept up. He
feared that there other object beneath this
appropriation. He knew that the gentlemen of the
intend it, but the experience which the country
had had, connected with the disruption of States
and the breaking down of popular and elec-
toral liberties, had given it n warning against
any undue increase Of the army He believed that
but for the threat of General Grant. commander-in-
chief of the army Whose special love OF military
power had been aggrandized by his travels in
Europe) and but for the fact that there ermy
of 10000 in 1877, the popular will OF the country
tion of tho present occupant of the White House.
With faith growing out Of jealousy Of military
power and physical force he had always voted and
would always vote for the reduction of the army.
Mr.. ATKINS rep.) OF Tenn, said the House had on
lar force of the standing army. That had been the
expression of the House, and the Committee on Ap-
propriations knowing that i'll order to get this bill
through ut all the number would have to be fixed at
rs 900, had fixed that number in the bill He
advocate Of large standing armies than any
other gentleman on the floor. He record
opposed to large standing armies, but the Committee
on Appropriations desired to be practical in this
matter 1t did not want to make cheap reputation
and capital before the country by reducing the army.
knowing that it could not force the reduction
through the House. 1t did not desire any such
Mr.. FINLEY. (dem) of Ohio-Did the committee
think they were right when they advocated 2o.OO0
last year?
Mr. ArK1Ns-Ycs
Mr.. FINLEY-Are they wrong now?
MIR. ATKINs-No. sir, for the very reason have
given.
A VOICE FROM TEXAS.
Mr.. MILLS (dem) of Texas said that there seemed
to be fear that standing army would destroy the
liberties of the people One of the fathers OF the
House (Mr. Cox reminded the House that standing
army had overturned the liberties of the people
one occasion That was when there had been about
eighteen hundred in the District OF Columbia in
1877. Eighteen would have effected the same purpose
he INIT. COX nau s01u tnat III n3u neen OCcuSlOneu
by threat of General Grant. II that was he Mr.
Mills thought that General Grant could have done
1t without any troops. If that gentleman wanted TO
get relief he had better abolish General Grant
Laughter the republican side of the House.) Tho
army essential feature in all governments.
There no government earth that had not
army for its protection. An army of $4,000 men
would be menace against the liberties OF
the people that nt y. n,oa sa the
ocean. covering 100000 square miles, in
habited by 45.oO0.0o0 people scattered throughout
its border. 1t had an army which could not
maintain skrmish line across 1t, aud yet gentle
men said that the liberties or the people were i'm
pcrcd by an army OF 25.oOO. The border had been
u running. bleeding wound ever since Texas had
been admitted into the Union. 1t had always been
Mr TowSsHESp. of Illinois. made remark
which was not heard by the reporter
Mr. MrLLs. OF Texss-Ycs. You would leave Texas
bleeding until every man, woman and child
had been slaughtered II you could make $1,000
economy ana so before your people for
the Union there was treaty by which
this government bound itself that IL would protect
that thing and ever since we have been in we have
been assuming own defence. Talk about econ
omy! daughter on the republican side.l
Mr.. TowNsHEND, OF Illinois, am glad to find the
laughter comes from that side.
Mr.. MILIs-Let IL como from where It will,
stand by my constituents
Mr.. TowNsHESD--Of that rs 0C0 how many were
kept ON the Texas border?
MIR. MiLIs-Not enough to protect it,
ian borderY
MIR. MILLs--Not enough to protect il.
After prolonged debate. in which Mr. Cox, Of New
York Mr.. Mills. of Texas. and Mr.. Townsend, of New
York. took part, Mr. Cox's amendment was defeated
without division and Mr.. Durham's by vote of &c
to 1ls.
Mr.. BUTLER. of Massachusetts,, submitted IN amend
mcnt authorizing and requiring railroad companies
who have telegraph lines to transmit kilograms tho
government and tor the general public 70 le
liked by the government according to the provisions
OF the Revised Statutes. Adopted.
M M.Cn ifer, lnf apl, <to.1
ment making an appropriation for the construction
of heavy ordnance for coast defenccs. Rejected.
SPEECH OF rR. McooK.
Mr.. McCoox also submitted amendment provid-
ing that the posse oomots clause of last years Army
Appropriation bill shall not apply the States OF
Nebraska Kansas Colorado, Oregon. Nevada, Mune-
sofa and the Territories subject TO Indian ncursons.
APPOINT OF order having been raised Mr. McCooK
proceeded to discuss 1t. but directed his remarks
against his colleague Nlr HEWITT whom he alluded
TO an Indifferent army organizer among soldiers
and as a questionable constitutional lawyer among
Legislators. He satrizcd his colleagues first and
ond efforts for the salvation of the Republic tho first
being the creation of the Electoral Commission and