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q. You formerly taught religious ideas, bu
now have gone into swearing? A. Bulldozer
have chased all that away. I have certain re
served rights on general principles.
@. You reserve the right to lie and suppres,
the truth? want to know whether that is go
A. No.
@. What have become Of your reserved
rights? "A. The moral atmosphere of Wash
ington has purified my ideas. uaughter.)
Q. Like the chameleon You change your hu,
and make your character partake Of the NOR
ais of the placer You will not lie in Washing
New Orleans. A. / think will go back re
formed man. Laughter.
! @. perfect information in q moral atmos
| phere, and you will never swear to another liei
A. Not lie.
@. Is not your affidavit lie? You swear
you personated Thomas, and now you swea,
you did not Il that true? A. will answer
| in my own way, aud not let you put words into
| my mouth.
Witness was informed lie must answer. he
then said that when the affidavit was prepared
the initial "S'' Of his Christian name wa,
omitted.
q. Is it true, leasing out the initial alto.
gether? A. I don't know whether it is true 0,
not. Murray made statement to those who
prepared the affidavit.
@. You say in your affidavit II took Thomas
seat and cast his vote for Kellogg Is that
true? You know IL is q lie. A. Yes.
@. And you swore to it a. q lie? A. ]
thought it right thus to accomplish my object.
@. And that was money! A. have al
much right to swear to q lie for money as the
Democrats had to burn my house. can show
by the laws of Louisisna that it is not penal
ofense toswear to . lie.
Q. Y0u are also lawyer as well as . preach
er. Doyou as a man believe in hell and the
penitentiary? A. i think it right to do as I
did-as taught by Iouisiana Jurisprudence:
@. And as q politician you are Republi-
can? A. have been studying Democratic
Jurisprudence,
@. You have been brought up in the Kel-
logg school? A. voted for three Democrats
as members of the constitutional convention.
They did not pay me. voted for them on
principle.
@. You in your, affidavit swore to a lie? A..
That was optional.
O. You made it for an agreement of money.
What induced you to swear the other way7 A.
Stings of conscieEoe. Laughter.) I had
been laboring under moral turpltude and
since then my conaeience has been aroused.
S G.. How often g. you have moral turpitude.
Once month? slaughter.) A. Only that
once. "a .sggst
phere has cleaned il; all out? A. Yes.
@. In the New Orleans custom-house have
You not been charald with stealing? A. LIDO
not know. z.a
In further response witness said he was ex-
ercising the right of an American citizen to lie
@. You are exercising that right here to-day7
A. Nc, / am not permitted to exercise this
right by the Democrats in Louisiana.
@. You reserve (ne right to lie? A. No.
the telling the truRh as I understand it.
have no intention tosie about dead men.
The next witness was an ignorant black man
of the Packard legislature. 81 nebber, . he said,
got no money fur yotin' for Kellogg. If dat
man dar (pointing to Tom Murray says I did,
de penitentiary is de bes' place fo' him. Neber
showed no money nor neber tole no man I got
de money fo' votin TO Kellogg. Don't know of
nobody. Idon't want to treat dis committee
with contempt. got a family to support. I
made mo- by work den does by commin' fo
dis committee. L doesn't loaf like Murray.
Dat nigger should besent to de penitentiary.
What Tom Murray says is q point, blank lie. 1
know nothin' aboutxs, De scoundrel ought to
strung mp by de necE. lse oaly slightly &c.
quainted wild Murray. 1se better mansand
lives mo- speckble. De idea of Murray sayin'
dat he'll repent.
The witness was very much excited.
The Chairman-Never mind Tom Murray.
Answer the questions Of counsel. The witness
l treat de court wild all de 'spect in de world,
but when a man like Tom Murray testify such
things as dat, tbs nuff to make me mad.
@. Have you had a conversation with MUIR
ray since you came here? A. looking scorn-
fully toward Tom Murray; yes, de low pup. I
ask him what he said bout my receiving money
to vote. for Kellogg. he said you boys is here,
and if Kellogg don't ten to you drop him, and
III get you all de money you want:
@. You have carried on pretty high here. Do
v0r kDnvU nf anvfhinn m than did
the day you talked to Murray? A. didn't
know what Murray said till rived here,
hadn't saw Murray for eighteen months.
Q. You have once or twice risen from your
seat and seemed anxious to jump over the
table at Murray A. You put him on de
green and I'll show him.
Witness looked angrily at Murray on the
other side of the table, placed himself in an
attitude of attack. and shook his head defiant
1y.
@. You had Tom Murray on the green ? A.
with asneer of contempt) The dirty pup.
This remark, as his previous ones, excited
general laughter.
@. We're you not the man to carry OIL the
fight with Tom Murray ? A. My action is not
to bulldoze de committee.
The laughter at this point was excessive.
Counsel, audience and committee together
joined in the merriment.
The Chairman-We will have to preserve
called to clear the room. I. want no such
demonstrations.
Merrick-Don't bulldoze the committee.
want to ask when you first met Tom Murray
here. Were you more pugnacious than now !?
A. don't propose to answer any farder.
@. think have the right to ask the ques-
ton, but may be in error A. don't pro-
pose to answer you kin commit you kin do
as you please, won't answer.
Merrick, at the suggestion Of the chairman,
withdrew the question.
Witness with much eamestness said: Neber
showed Murray no money. and that he would
hab nothin' mo- to do wild politics. 1t was .
dogs life.
Robert F. De Shard was called by Senator
Kellogg. He testified he was chief clerk of the
Packard legislature. Both Thomas and
Seivgnes were present at the joint convention,
and voted for Kellogg. He produced his min
utes to show that seventeen Senators and sixty-
six Representatives answered to their names.
He knew all of them were present, "A when he
called their names he checked responses, and
saw them when they voted. Adjourned till
tomorrow.
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