, 1879-01-03
coin becoming Republican when lie Was born


orally got to lookinr a. Slavery ns an anadlro.
ntstn. Itncolu was man Of democratic Ideas,
Possessed with tic passion and patriotism Of
freedom. anu he made TN his mind IN the course
Of time TINT Slavery In its naturn mnst he ag-
Ereesive nnsi continue 10 he nuisance unftl
We took i hold Of i for tho good OF tho country
"hHi Nir. Lincoln retain any fancy Or fond.
ants mi! the he souitn Sou teSp'' u '"' s'"'' ~
"Yes. We observed that all the time. Ithe
or r.
Ing on his duty, It n!ware made him very glad 70
do u. He was extrcrndly compasslonatc and
apologetfc for indir!duals IN The south: II they
would have behaved themselves and como into
tho Union, Linco!n's highest ambition would
have been satisfied"
III. srrERsr1rro1s.
HDtd you sec any traces in his behavior OF the
Indifferent origin he had!''
''rcs; he had 4 certain superstition about
him. Although don't know II, should not
| mcIinms. While he was nationalist p religious
questions, he beeH,ed ALTO 10 be q little Of fa-
,alt.s. and At times to be possessed with BROOD
"Wcli, sir, how does that comport with his
wonderful! capacltv In tho Engl!el, lungu.Rcl"
~ think that l.tncoIn's literary power partly
came from the small nrno,lnt of rcndtnR that he
had In those luts and cabins Of illinois II was
rare 10 sec anything E,orc than the Bible. That
| being the onfy book, yr. Lincoln dcvoUtcd It;
and his plraseoloEy anil resercnt wny OF Fut-
ting things Vas 0t htblcsal derivation"
WHAT EtECTRD fItx.
"flad y0u ever thought OF him At any IRE
| vEotts time-kay whcn you wero pract!cing inv
togethsr-as possible President Of tic United
40 no, Mr. E.lncoln became President
mainly IN tho score Of his debate with Douglas.
| lie had never been III any great prominence as
M oi,lcc-ho!der. His thorough-9otng devotion
| to tle party brought him universal goodwill,
| however, and he grew 10 harm ontously i0to tho
advocacy Of Republican principles and oppcsi'
tlon TO DouC1as' notion OF s1nattcr Sovereignty,
that there MAS general desire to see him co'nu
forward and debate with Douglas. l can tell
vt,l something Interesting about TINT debate.
1.tn,uln had 40 money. Tie was IN no position
to match man Of De'lel.s' financial resources:
! their hands IN their pockets and subscribed Tor
| a hand Of music to aopear. with him, md TINT
band was procured In tndlaua.. They put the
point pi 10 10 3 point Of meeting: bonglas meantime
came on to New York. and, as { have under
! stood, borrowed $t0o,00O think be got ton,n
ot Il from Ben Ws9a . ana Fsfnan'o =; N Moml: o t'e
soft Of tr1unphal tour OF the State, designing to
carry tho Senntorshtp By s,orn1.. Lincoln said,
after the contest was over With certain Sc
cost ms fully s.5o.' It was general, under
,tool 10 The e. Wess ! that the same campaign cost
tcmparancous, nnti ho meyer revised them. Ny
impression fs tnat young McCulngh, NOW IN ed.
itor In 81. Louis, was tte stenographer Of Lin
coin's speeches. Douglas did revise his 70
Lincoln reasoned 30 closely and carefully on
Douglas' fake statements Tint hc carne out Of
that campaign covered with respect. and Instant
/ think It II due" said Mr. Usher, "to Mr. Sew
ards memory to soy that his extreme views on
tue Slavery question, helped TO beat him."
"Wers Yer, }Su H. Err Of Mr. 1"so'as no"na'
"Yes. 10 was Caleb Smith, my friend and
predecessor in ny Office. The "cAt generally
' SEWARD AND LINCOLN.
add Mr.. Lincoln like Seward personally AZ
ter they got 10 know each other2 :"
ayes, / think that Lncoin had = real fond
neas ar.1 admiration foe scward. There waa 40
ausplclon or rivalry Mhatever between them.
Seward supported Lincoln IN every position OF
scruple that ho lsad. My impression IL that
those two men were m cordial snd Intimate a
!ro pc'son. M o. ss uni sGua H.
Ushcrr'
'Aticr Caleb Smith, Of Indiana, was made
member Of tho Cabiuct hc desired mo to be his
District Judgcot the United States tn the courSo
Of tirnc, and then NJ. Lincoln promoted me ut
Smiths request. ! was In tho Cabinet SONIC
tiulo VIVA uulcr Mr.. Johnson. That Cablnct
was vrry ill-assortcd. My predecessor, Judge
Srnith. was kind man. but without much dls-
crimination as to tls followers. There hardly
wan aver such thing an q regular Cabinet
meeting in the aenko Of form. Cntcr Jnlnson
and under Grant hare scen tabln with chairs
placed IN regular order around It, AZ II for Cab
Ms. lincoln's Cabinet. Seward would como In
aud lie down IN a scttce. Stanton hardly ever
stayed more than five Or ten minutes. Sometimes
| some paper he wa& writing on State matter.
| Lincoln generally stood m. md walked about.
In fact, every mclnbeE Of that Cabinet ran hts
, own Department N his own way: don't sut'-
| pose that st,ch historic period Wns ever 70
simply operated from tho ccnter Of powers.
, Lincoln trusted all hts subordnatcs aud they
. worked out their own performances. ! regard
Sewnrtl," said Mr.. Usher, 'as on this whole tho
!, strong man Of the Cabinet, the counsel OF the
President" ....
STANTON AND cTAsE.
"What sort q MAJ, WI stan5op Il, in his Fela
o nWclI, Stanton nlways seemed to mo TO be
a sck or su!len, dyspcpt!c Or somcthing q tha,
= kind. Ito would come Into the room and ray
ne{'los ssaos sSe ws Mr F'sstaeat, aefo v.
!, BID YOU good morning. a. am very busy a. M
oiilse., e. Ihat often asRpePea M oa Cae,net "a. M day'
with Ills Cabinet"
~ think have. Yes, remember one event
y Lincoln had issued a proclamation stating thai
!. when one-tcnth al the voters Of cong.cssiona
o district, or part Of Stale, resumed thelr po
!, sition IN the Uniosa, and elected member o
. Congress, they should be rseoeuixed as much y
II l tue HuQlc cOnttlLuCnCy. NuAbe Fel1aIkSu> III
u stead oi saying voters, suggest that you pA
n IN citfzcnr saw In minute whnt Chase WA
T. driving at. This question had arisen ~ to WIZ
n were ctt!zcus, and Alr. bates, the AttoFneyOen
d eral, had pronounced negroes 10 bo citizens
d The Law Of tho Administration. therefore, WA
Z that negroes were included Ia ettlzensl,ip, A.
u walked away from the cetlact that day Chhs'
Is was At my stdc, and he said: 'Alr. Usher, W
"a must stick to It that citizens and not voters, b.
l. named lu that proclamation turned about whe
It Wo had cot to tho Treasury, and walked bac
+ On tho plank which stood at that tirno 10 tn
White l1ousc, and l told Lincoln that Chaa
was very pcrt!nacious about the word citizen
10 instesd of volers. 'Yes,' said Lincoln, Chas
L. thinks that tho negroes, citizens, Will al vot
10 " Muko HIN Presidcut.'h
Fa "Was Lincoln OF the opinion that
70 CHASE HAD PERSONAL AMBITION
10 | IN that d!rcctlapts
"Yea II was almost TRANSPARENT. The inc
+ dent wss about to tell you was this. Iu OH
l of tim ptfaluentta nrnrl n m D9 aEnancia.