Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1879-02-06
was anxious that the act should be consummat-
ed az others were pressing him hard.

ca a. OGnerS were pressing him hard.
Question-What do you mean, money or off,
ces. Answer-My impression is that he meant
both. The manner in which he proposed to
| receive money satisfied me that he meant BUSH
ness. His remarks as near as can remember
was that the money should not be paid over
until the goods were delivered.
Mr.. Springer-Can you give your time Of ar
rival at Baltimore? Answor-I cannot remem-
Der just now.
Question-Did you think they meant bust
ness when they proposed to sell out7 Answer
Il certainly did. met COL Pelton in Balti-
more. He said ''the old man." which sup
pose was Gov. Tilden, had received telegram
from Gov. Cooper stating that he could not
raise the money. There was no telegram from
Gov. Tilden of a similar character to this.
told Solomon, who came on to this city with
me on Wednesday, the Esd. think Solomon
sent dispatch to the board, and in three or
four hours afterward the returning board gave
"a decision the other way. The substance Of
the telegram was that the goods could not be
delivered and that the arrangement or bargain
was off.
Sr. Stenger-Had you any communication
on this subject with Mr.. Tilden from the day
before election. either directly Indirectly,
up to the time the South Carolina canvassing
board met, or did you have any after? Answer
Yes. met him at the Everett house. He
took me to task. cannot give you the exact
words, but he took me to task about the propo-
sltlon and stated he never authorized any such
proceeding and that while he lived he would
never become President under such circum-
stances.
In the course of further examination, witness
said: The Democrats in South Carolina were
poor and needed money for printing, procuring
witnesses, ETC., in legal proceedings They
asked him to get the national committee to
help them, and he made an unsuccessful eff
fort in that direction. The dispatch sent to
him from Columbia, signed Pope" asking tor
$4,000, had no reference to this matter and had
no connection whatever with buying any men,
bers OF the legislature or any one else. He
thought the $5, 900 was mistake, as the sum
was more likely to have been $4,000. The last
dispatch referred to by witness was translated
as follows:
Columbus, Nov. 20-Smith Weed, care of
King, Everett House, N. Y: Send $4,000 i'm
mediately to Haskell. February expect to get
majority of the House and Senate, but $5, 600
can make majority Democratic. This will
make the court all right. Electoral canvass
postponed. Will remain in court to make cleo
torai vote Democratic. (Signed) Pope
Weed said he never had anything to do with
plot which the Tribune asserted was formed
to buy four members of the South Carolina
Legislature for $20,U0O, and having thus OBJ
tanned control of the State government, to out
Hayes electors in Jail and lock them up in
separate cells until the day for casting the
electoral votes had passed. He never had any
knowledge of such plot.
The following translation of cipher dispatch
sent by him was then submitted to witness,
the date and address being the same as those of
the former dispatch:
Telegram received too late to answer last
night. Don't quite understand. Do you want
me to 60 to home of Stearns Florida. Board
late last night demanded $1,000 for giving us
two or (S) electors. The interceder will want
something besides. Think $4,000. What
shall Hnp INt Old H.
party, who, to say the least are Indifferent.
Mr. Weed was subjected to rigid examina-
ton by Mr.. Reed and other Republicans on
the committee for the purpose Of connecting
MIR. Tilden personally with the transactions
above mentioned, but his testimony as given
above, declaring that Mr.. Tilden would not
hear to suoh scheme, and stating he would not
take the office if secured by such means, was
adhered to and reiterated in the most positive
manner.
Continuing bis testimony, in reply to His
cock, Weed said after his return from Balti-
more, he met VIM. L. Scott, of Erie, Pa, and
think Abraham Sewitt, of this city, Mr.. Ed
Ward Cooper, now mayor Of the city, and MIR.
Pelton. The latter gave me instructions to
send or direct all my kilograms to Mir. Have
meyer, from whom he could get copies. On the
occasion of Pelton's visit to me In Baltimore,
he told me he expected to receive the money
that morning from MIR. Edward Cooper, but as
I:have already stated. the money was not forth
coming, and the whole movement fell through.
The committee having got through with
Weed. Mayor Cooper. at his request, was called,
and testified to having received telegram
from Pelton while in Baltimore for $4,000 or
$4,000. He was astonished, and went at once
to Tilden's house and he said Pelton must be
telegraphed to return at once. I never was
authorized to send Pelton any money.
nor did intend to do 70.
Tilden was also surprised at Pelton's
dispatch. Here Cooper submitted statement
of expenditures of the National Democratic
committee, of which he was treasurer. The
total amount expended was $15, $40, from the
day OF election up to present. 1t was made up
of incidental and necessary expense incurred.
I cannot say whether Gov. Tilden knew where
Pelton was going. He seemed angry and i'm
patient when he heard Pelton had gone to
Baltimore, and on hearing of the dispatch
said Pelton should be ordered home
Immediately. His impression of Peltons
dispatch was the same mine, that he was
negotiating to purchase an electoral vote.
never knew of Tilden making any attempt to
purchase electoral votes; never knew of any
proposition to use any money in Florida;
did not know a cipher was used between
Weed and Pelto. Cooper further testified
that he was knowing to gentlemen being sent
to South Carolina and Florida to look after the
count. but that he was totally una
ware of Mr.. Pelton's negotiations, and that no
At the conclusion of Coopers investigation
the committee adjourned until tomorrow.
GOV. r1LDEN.
Mr.. Springer, of the Potter committee, says:
''Gov. Tilden has not been subpenaed. and I
have my doubts whether he will be- This,
however, does not make any material difference,
for in any shall give him an opportu-
nifty of appearing before the committee, and it
! is not likely he will miss the golden chance, if