The New York herald., 1879-03-12


TALNAeE FEELs.
''Well. Doctor" asked the HEnALD representative.
chow do you feel this evening"
.-splendidly. I was never in better condition"
Then the Presbyters haven't entirely sauelched
mo. sir and they never can."
What is the origin. the animus. of all the fuss
well that's a word have allowed myself to
use. but it TO mt OF the bretlren.'
''whom do you consider the head and front of
these assaultsf
cdr Van Dyke"
''Not Mr.. CrosbyY'
'oh. Van. Dyke is the grandfather of it all.
Crosby is mere cats paw. He amounts to nothing
at ali.'
'.where does he preachs"
"ln Dr. spencers old church."
"Popular?
"wel. he may have 100 people in church on fair
day."
"A fair day?"
"oh, yes; it must be fair day to draw such .
crowd as that. He is young man of no earthly
consequence, and forms OF set that follow Van
Dykes movements"
"is this present action entirely new and fresh
hostility"
A SERIES OF ASSoYANcrs
Bless your heart, no; Why they've been after
tour distinct attempts to buldoze ne. The first
when put a baptistry in the church. Some people
oppose them; so had baptistry put in.
tfed that that was unprestyterial and ugly rumors
Sinsd Tsn 6s so wss a tud
ing to the trustees OF the Lay College. and
committee actually appointed to investigate
Church. The Lay College itself not regarded
favorably, and when started 1t received a letter
threatening the action Of the Presbytery And now
comes this affair. | regard it of the most
marked and outrageous interferences that mortal
man was over subjected to- II has stirred my tenn
per wonderfully, and have had to hold my horses
as l never held them BEFORE"
"Why don't you rotaliatei'
"Wel remember one passage Of Scripture that
says And he answered never word have put
a number of things in my pieeonholes that would
make cheerful reading; but Y''
"What is the result of DR.. Van Dykes enthusiasm?'
culiar views and vanites He has small
church and not much to do He prides
himself on his familiarity with parliamentary
practice-a matter which most ministers care
but little about-and he would be perfectly de-
lighted to spend five days week in ecclesiastical
duties of his pulpit fair proportion of the
week. He has always been queer in his action toward
me; but, as it pleases him and doesn't hurt me,
have objection to it. Sometimes 1t becomes .
question as to how much OF thus sort OF thing man
is reasonably expected to stand, but it's all right.
PAUL AND TALMAeE
Il see you don't propose to have secret trial?'
"a secret trial? No. sir. The accusations
public and the trial and vindication shall be equally
When was suggested in the Presbytery that the
trial should be in secret was sitting behind Mr. Van
Dyke. Rising said with Paul. They have beaten
openly and uncondemnod. being Romans and
now do they thrust us out priviy? Nay verify but
said this laid my hand on Mr.. Van Dykes head and
gently pressed it,.
'.Was he tickled?'
penny nail But see the infamy of such PROPOSE
ton. don't pretend to be saint for between
tons but do challenge the proselytes any other
man, in all that pertains to me and my church. my
people or my race.
what did you mean by suggesting,van Dyke az
prosecutor
It's his job and he should manage it. As it was we
stood about 1S to 25 and ii was amusing to
how they followed Van Dykes wink and nod.
voting for all he suggested or desired without
thought OF their l thought he should be
prosecutor. although said named him because Of
the tenderness he had shown to me and my church,
"And Crosby?"
Eyes. and Crosby too, but especially Van Dyke.
don't know what the soreheads would do if there
were no Van Dyke. They go to him for salve and
get it. They join his church and stay there they
can stand his preaching. but they get the salve at
mentary practice and ecclesiastical law fit him for
the position, and his animus caps the climax Of
suitability"
''Is Dr.: Spear his equal in familiarity with modes
''Oh. yes. indeed ard he is an infinitely better de.
batter and general talkcr. shall dc very sorry il
DR.. Spear cannot act as my counsel"
He is pastor of the South Brooklyn Church and
financial editor of the Independent believe-a very
able. kind. good man."
"And II he persists in declining, what then?''
Then think shall have no counsel at all. It IL
essential to have man who is u.ta in the law for
such cases and none is better thar. one who hasn't
made such matters study"
QUITE CONFIDENT.
''Do you apprehend any difficulty at all in the
Christian al York;
"pooh!i Why have documents. letters and ahi.
davits that will blow that charge to the winds in six
minutes
AN Ex pARTR EXAMINATION.
"Did you have opportunity to appear before the
committee Of five to explain?'
"Il tell you received letter from. the commit
tee asking me to appear: l went. taking my wife:
books and papers. My wife left sitting . cold
room outside went in. and to my astonishment
saw strange man there. who is thisY I asked and
was told that he was stenoerapher. oh, said l. !
thought this was to be quiet. friendly. to man
talk. but this senosrapher gives it formal guisa
and my ofhand talk win so down as history in his
official report. wcll these charges were msde and
offered then and there to meet and dsprove them.
"My carriage was at the door. Said I:-Gentle-
mon, give you my word these charges false and
malicious. In addition 10 this can bring you witt
them. and in ten minutes the thing be settled
But no; Mr.. Crosby said no didn't think they could
she can explain many Of these matters~wiil YOU
question herr This they also refused So sent
her home."
I'm other words you had no chance to"
'In other words, they raked earth and hell to hnd
my enonies. but they wouldn't listen to aword from
my friends They were at it two weeks. scraping to.
gether all they could find against me. taking the tes
timony of all who would speak in my. disfavor;
Now l propose having the rest of this
outrage done In public. The HERALD and
all the other papers that recognize the Importance
of this movement shall find bar at the door. their
reporters will be welcome and the the BETTER
Why IL that committee had cared to get facts they
church records were there, my wife there,
was there. and witnesses they would not dare inn
peach were within call-but no. That wasn't what
they wanted.
A MARITAL EPISODE.
At this point Mrs. Talinage entered the room bear
ing in her hand marriage certificate DIR. Talmage
took it, filled 1t up at his wifes dictation. slipped
into the front room made an cxpectant couple man
and wife, kissed the bride, handed the fee to
his wife. and returning with broad and char
acteristc smile said. 81 have no ill feeling
to any of the dear brethren. heaven bless em;
the contrary, i would give them one
and all fraternal boost whenever had the chance.
have shown this by reading their notices and their
names with approval from my pulpit. am not here
to fight and don't intend to fight my fellow man.
My church duties are great and occupy my time.
These dissensions a nuisance"
''is there any venom in them?'
well. now, look at 1t. Ordinarily when O min.
lister or man in business is annoyed in this perti.
nacious is because he has across some
other mans track have donc so I have
kept myself to myself and to my work. l have
my ynr Ilaad In nan nta..ta.. Int. liz