The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-09
those baltimore transaC,lons' A-Becauso 1t

| tho 1frDune.' A.-MelI, thHt IA true.
Q.-But. we're YOU not aware that TINT would
| convey to the public mind. and that IL WIS in
tended to convey, the erroneous impression
untiItho publication OF the Tribune dispatches
Al do not see that II conveys that idea.
| Q.-Do you not see that IL oOnveys that idea to
| the mind OF any reader thnt does not know ns
| much about II rs you dop A.-R,ad it again.
after hearing Il rend second time by MIR.
Q.-rhnt is true you say; but didn't you in.
tend to convey to the publ ic the impression that
| YOU did not know anything Of those transnc-
tn publication in the 7ribune2 Al. did not.
| you pro essed to give tho public information In
The maltor that you know OF tho transactions
| themselves Attend the sentence. please.
| Mr.. Reed-You cnn read II for Yourself. do
not wish to take any advantage OF you.
=, Witness having read ne paragraph IN dues-
graphs, fret South Carolina. then Florida.
,,QI1Well. In that second paragraph, about
Of the transactions Well now does it not
strike YOU and didn't II at tho time that TINT
was calculated to convey to tho public mind tho
| IMPRESSION TINT you not only know nothing
about the kilograms. but about tho trnnsac-
Oven. now look Mt It again and see II that
%%nI not Dp me m"T" % mo OF s
| ~ yourself A.-The question was. what |
knew .ghout these tclcgrams. J knew nothing
tran.ac.ionsH A.-No, that was separate
Q-But was II not that to which YOU wore
undssrstood to be replying before the public
OIL notice that; hut II Ia difference ono
would not notice at iirstp Alt - used with
could not saw know nothing about the nrgo-
| tnions ia South Carolna-thongh knew very
| little. knew no drtniis, hut knew there had
| been an Offer. and the oncr refused through my
Intervention. That il all knew and did not
| know there had been my further negotiations
| tnun To rpeplNp OH r and fulnt IL. In Florida
| di4 not know thcr' had been mn offer. 50 the
language is decidedly different and in zach case
Q-1'int Is. you were avoiding n misstnto-
| mont of crrtnin facts which you knew, mud Mt
| tho same time not hNowlng what you did know
| A.-Crrtaiuly.
.Q-And so you made your denial in such
shape and form that II would avoid this fact
| when It became known to you. did your Al
nude my denial consistent with the truth.
Q-But you say nOnn OF the kilograms
were mndc known or their contents shown to
you. We're yoH not conscious that the mnttcr
you were explaining Ia tho public WAS not tho
| kilograms. but the ncgo,iatiOns2 Al covered
| all That in the next sentence.
Mr. Spr!nscr-lio could not cover everything
Q-Now. why didn't YOU Gov Tfden. whom
YOU came 10 make this answer To- the public.
tons. so lar Ms you did. and That you then
! stamped them ont instead ~ using language
| only knew nothing nhout the kilograms but the
| n"goiintons2 A.-No Intelligent man would so
| understand IT,
Din the light OF your present testimony
Q.-Dl1 YOU intend to convey tho impression
! That no oilers hal been mndr. Ia your knnwl-
edE"P Al did hot, intended to avoid that
Q.-Whyi At there had been hundred
men advising and mnkn: Offers was under
no obj ieation to stat" them 10 tho punic,
! Q.-But there wrrr not hundred mon.
! There was one particular trlnsariinn To- (which
| your attention had hrrn directed hv the Tribune
disclosures. Why di you not mention that one
! transaction. " you inien lcl 10 deal frankly
with the publicp Al had not seen nny ot
| thns" dcspatches. AMI dii not know whether
! they were true or not. When drew TINS card
| had not seen either 81 those parties. had had no
consultation with either Mr. Weed or Col. Pei
Q.-But you know Col. Pclton had gone to
| Baltimore. Why DID YOU conrrnl or refrain
| gone there TO receive u proposition.
| Q.-Thrn. why dill YOU n. stat" that !Gc'. II
| ncuhcwr Alt WIS MT necessary or urnrti-
cnblr Tor msto make the statements - u matt'ruf
iny own knowledge.
Of The publci You undertook 70 inform the
| community OF whrt you knew. Now. wrltngso
| hlpprn that YOU omitted the fact thnt YOU knew
| C"l. Potion had gone To Btltmete to r'c,iys n
propositions A.-B 'cuusa the fact was rot per
| tinrnt 10 the discussion IN hand.
On was 4 not pertinent 10 Tho iniormn-
| ton Of the public ~ to your knowledge uf these
| matters Alt was not pertinent IN thu inior-
nation 81 the public among thu things under
Q-Yon say that tho transaction regarding
| the Board Of CAnynsscrs In Florida wa, mon
| toned to you casually. ao"omunh"i 10y state
| mrnt that th" oI"r " Is jfcted. y NV. 10y whom
was TINT information thus conveyed To your
| Q.-Why did YOU not in your card. inform the
! public who STATED that 10 your Alt WIS not
| necessary
| Odd the non necessity OF 1t arse from tho
| fart that on thc face o. these cspnt' hes Mr.
! Marble WA very severely incrinium"d AMI
| your statement tnat hc had mentioned It 10 you
| would tend Ia confirm tn. puhli' IN the impress
SION that the transact oug wrr' not without your
knowl.igc? A.-Not me lcast,
/ Ff.as N|.s.NHa 10 raaaa
a. II It had boon studiousiy omttedP Alt
| WIS not
Q.--You did not keep it out ON purpose and in
| iurthcrance ni any design IA your mind To ms
| lead tho publicy A.-No, sir.
| . Or the Baltimore transa 'tion ciihcr1 A.
! Tint WIS not mentioned because II WAS en-
Q.Then YOU did intentionally keep that out
| A.-IhPrH WIS no ne"sSslty Ia put n m.
| q. Did you not draw those scnirn'rs very
carefully 40 MS 10 convey 10 the public mind the
erroneous impression TINT You had no knowl-
edge Of those transactions. without specifically
! maaing that avcrmentf Al drew those son
t"nc"s very careiully'so as to conform to tho
Q.-To the exact truth not simply So lar rs
| u" public knew It. but as Tar rs you knew 1t
,Q.1Dia You have any interview with Mr.
| Wood hef9re be left for South CarolinaY Al
| did not. | did not see him until he got back
| Q.-Do YOU remember having amy conNersa-
ton with MIN ~ any bank A. do n"t.
| Q.-lou rccollct the bank mcntlnn.d IN con-
| n'ton with thr Oregon affair? A.-Iho Third
! Nntinnul was It not
] - MINK ~l-ine ono ilM klnll) NlNNn''l
| on Mr. Priton's suggestion sSuuO for legitimate
! legal expenses ~ Oregon. Did you huve any
! Interview with Mr.. Weed at thnt bankl Al
| do not think did.
| Q.-Cnn YOU not toll MS whether you did or
| not ? A-At what timer
| Q.-Alter Nh" election. Al think did not
| Q.-Mrll. don't you know whether You did or
| NOT p Now be frank with us. Al have no
! recollection Of it,
| Q.-Did You ever SEQ him thcrc2 Al do not
! remember Of ever srrng HIM there.
! Q.-D0 understand thnt you have no posi-
| tive and distinct rrcollr ton of meeting him
| there at any tmeY Al do not remember
| meeting HIM there nj any particular time.
| Q.-Do you remember meeting him there at
| alf Al have no distinct recollection.
may possibly havo met him there.
| Odd You not have a long conversation
| win him prior to his departurof Al do not
! think did
/ Q Can you not be moro positive than thatp
/ Al lrel sure that did not SOC him 40 all
| Q.-Did not see him. and did not have that
conversation to which have Alludel2 A-No.
Odd l understand you to say that. ms 10
! Florida. you did not know of tina, transaction
! with reference to the proposed purclinsH-or
| snl'-of the cAnNHsslng hourdf Al did not
| until after the 9Th of Decrmhcr.
! Q.-Ahuut what time did Mr.. Marhle commu-
/ nicatr this fact 10 YOU Al cannot say.
Q.-But II wus before the publication Of the
article in the Ii1JH,e. to which your letter wasa
] rpblNy A-ips