Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1879-02-07

read all the kilograms received. He did in
quire as to whether or not there was any news
from Marble, but he never read single tele-
gram in relation to negotiations for the pur-
| chase Of the returning board.
| @. Now tell us the exact words of your
| uncle. A. l cannot say. All know is that
he strongly disapproved of what l had been
| doing.
Q. Then your uncle and Mr.. Cooper disap-
proved of your plans from moral point of
view. NJ. Cooper was treasurer of the Ma
tiona. Democratic committee, was he not? A.
| He was. but as to his morality cannot say.
| O. Did tho word ''Kussia" mean Mr.. Tilden !?
A. guess
O. Did you present the telegram reading,
TELL Russia to saddle Blackstone" to your
uncle? A. 1 never did,
| O. Did he understand what Bolivia Laura
meant. A. He did not. In fact he never saw
any OF these kilograms. Blackstone the
name of horse owned by Mr.. Tilden. That's
all know about it.
G. This was suggestion that Mr.. Tllden
should tske some gentle exercise3 A. l sup
| pose
@. These people in Louisiana, Florida and
South Carolina depended upon your doing
what you have shown you could not do. In
other words, you led them to believe you had
somebody behind you and whatever you did
would be sanctioned, and any contracts made
would be faithfully carried out2 A. That is
about it.
| Q. Did you intend, if Cooper favored your
plans, to obtain sixty or eighty thousand dol
lara from the Democratic committee? A.
did.
| O. Do you make any difference between
| buying an elector and buying returning
| boards? A. do. There is great differ
ence.
Witness said he had not seen Marble since
last August.
To iiiscock-I do not now reside with Gov
fra L.
| since last August. When secretary to Gov.
Tilden witness was looked upon as his accred-
tied agent.
Q. Look at the cipher. Does it not contain
| arbitrary Words some meaning thousands and
| others hundreds? A. 1t does.
q Explain this. A. l have no explanation
to give.
@ Is it not a fact that you betrayed your
confidential friend Weed when you said you
could raise $4,000 Or $4,000? A. don't
know that there was any betrayal.
@. Why did you tell Cooper not to mention
the matter to your uncle? A. Because the
Governor had no knowledge of this transaction
whatever, and if he did he would have
stopped it.
Question-Are you not entirely dependent
upon your uncle?
Mr.. Springer objected on the ground that
the question was offensive. Some argument
| ensued in the course of which Reed suggested
that just as the committee were elicitiDg infor-
nation from witness the Democrats objected.
The chairman remarked-Let me be explicit.
Democrats had nothing to do with this beyond
getting at the truth.
lr. Hiscock remarked lie was not satisfied
with the answers of witness and intended to
make him give proper ones.
Question by Hiscock-About this election?
A. Yes it was stolen and wrongfuliy disposed
Of. Applause.
The chairman remarked if this applause was
repeated he should order the room to be
cleared
Q. Did you consider the proposition t.,
purchase a returning board honest? A. do
not think this Il fair question.
.. Did you not understand money expended
| iii elections were to carry elections? A. can't
remember. You have already insulted me by
your questions, and I wish you would refrain
from it.
Hiscock-l have not insulted you either in
word or meaning; am seeking for the truth,
and mean to have it. Do you want the country
to believe that without consulting any leading
Democrat, or your uncle, you took upon your
self to make those contracts involving large
| amount of money, whereas you have not a dol
lar? A. You are getting offensive again.
@. Well, we will see. Don't be particular to
shade. You got 900 from MI. Jordan, who
has already testified before the Senate commit
tee. Did you expect to get this money from
your uncle? A. did not.
Q. Then from whom did you expect to get
&t2 A. From MIR. Scott.
=. Seeing that Gov. Tilden not 20 give
you the money, did you not know you were
guilty of unjust act, or to say the least, dis
honesty? A. think nothing Of the kind.
MIR. Hscock said he intended to examine the
witness more fully, and would insist on every
question coming under the rule being an
swered.
MIR. Stenger-I have been passive so far. Now
let me say you shall get all the answers you
want.
MIR. Reed-That is exactly the object of the
committee, the truth and nothing but the
truth Recess