New-York tribune., 1879-01-29

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Office Department. had been designated to visit
| Florida.
Mr.. Brady-I believe Mr.. Morton in Florida.
nave never read his testimony before this commtee
.ISt some SIX OF seven messages were cAchanged & pe
tween myself aud Judge Tyner during my stay in FLOR
| ida.
Q.-Bv whose request did you visit Florida A.Pres
den Grant requested me to go to Florida. ana in COM
Q~WGat did you 20 for ! A-To see a fair count.
MIR blackburn then put witness through rigid ex-
animation regarding ms idea OF man. almost Cabinet
oticcr OF the United states Government interfering in
| rcforners."
The Witness-I see no mproprety in the matter. I'm
reply to Mr.. McMahonlI assorted ont OF the tcegrams
in the Senate commltteeroom those which had passed
! between Mr. Tyner and myself.
! Mr.. McMahon-Then 1t was not untrue, as stated by
the Democratic papers, that some of the kilograms were
! taken from the commit ttee-room A-Those have
mentioned were taken. II can lind the kilograms sent
9y me % y 900 Gm GGfQTe en M
| left for Tallahassee, which amount turned over TO W
T. Chandler upon arrival 1t was understood that NJ
Chandler (Wam E) paid the expenses of some Of the
! witnesses in Florida. This. however, ! do not know
own money to dcfray the hotel expenses of the party
and that amount was refundedby MI H. Chandler upon
! lThe Chairman then intcrrogatcd the witness If nc
considered il proper for him 10 take from committee
room certain papers winch had been entrusted to the
Mr.. Brady-It assumed AT the time Withdrew the
kilograms that they would ultimately be DESTROYED and
desired to preserve the record OF my part of the trans
! action a. relic There was nothing "ouiu Ie"r 'hc
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| WILLIAM =. CHANDLER CALLED.
Mr. William L. Chandler was the next witness.
lie was first examined by Chairman Potter, testify
! ing that he left the major part of the kilograms
given him by General Brady in the private Office OF
General Butler, that gentleman not being present
the time lie said that he had not had any previous
arrangement with nor had he even spoken of the
affair to General Butler either before or after
the delivery. Subsequently he took another pack
age from MIR. Brady which was taken TO his
house and examined, after which he took it to the
/ local TRIBUNE office, and after scaling and adj
dressing it to Mr.. Whitelaw Reid, he left it i'll the
charge of the correspondent, MI. White, TO be
forwarded to New-York.
Odd yOu consider that the papers would be more
api 10 be kept in safety by General Bnlcri A-Until
these eleerams were placed in his hands considered
hun very careful man with papers. lGrcat lughierl
frequently looked over the dispatches while they were
IN the custody of the Senate Committee on Privileges
and Elections l recognized some of these dispatches
when subsequently examined those III MI Brddys
possession. understood that MIR. Bullock had EVeL
the cErams to General Brady.
By Mr. Potter.-You knew Mr.. Bullocks politicsi
Q-Had you the slightest idea that any OF the tele
grams III the package delivered by MI Bullock TO Gen
era Brady aud by General Brady and by in
put into the custody OF General Butler, Of
such ehar4g as to IN NAN ANY %2y G a 4o ta KeRGh Gh
can party had done the record OF which would lnlai
dispatches in the bundle.
The committee at this point 7:3O p M, went into
secret session. Mr.. Chandler requested 10 be
present at $50 p. M, when his examination would
be resumed.
While in secret session it was decided that in con-
sequence of the crowded state of the room the gen
eral public should not be admitted in the future
The chairman said he thought that such a regula-
ton was scarcely necessary for the reason that in
short time the present curiosity in regard to the
proceedings would die away.
The regulation was carried into effect, however,
in the afternoon but the room was very crowded
nevertheless with newspaper reporters members Of
Congress, witnesses, and people admitted by the
courtesy of the committee.
The only business which was considered in secreS
session was i'll reference to the calling of certain
witnesses. 1t was decided that tomorrow Judge
Soutbward and Sir. Tyner should be called to the
stand.
WHY THE CIPHFRS WERE HUSHED UP.
Mr. Chandler being again called upon to testify,
sta ted that he unable to say from whom he got
permission to look through the cipher dispatches
while they were in the committcc-room: it might
have been Senator Morton Senator Mitchcll he
did not know that there was any arrangement at
that time that the dispatches were not to be made
public, but he assumed it; he knew there was IN
arrangement by which other committees investi-
gazing the tIeSlUcntldl tIcClIOu HIdlltlS SuOuHl
have free access to kilograms
The Chairman-Was there not arrangement he
tween the two political parties that tie cipher dis
patches shonld not ne gone lnto1 A. ~ 90 hoI knoW
that about the time fist declined TO testify with
regard 20 Them, without the leave of my client,
that shortly after, when | had obtained leave,
aud was ready 10 testify. I discovered that
there was no desire to proceed with the
r0ury on the part Of the Democratic members, and
also understood that the EepnDean' were willing to
was. I desirous that the fullest investigation
Mr. Chaudlers and Mr. Tildens bank b1OAa were about
to be called for understood II was stopped by the
representatives of Mr.. Iden.
Mr. McMahon-You were mistaken in that.
The Witness luPon being asked from y what he drew
Morton had suggested il would be good plan TO drOphe
siye Of investigation that then approaching cul
uinatlOn MI. Carpenter might or might not have had
authority from The Democrats 10 oner tna s"SSestioh
/ never heard that senator Morton made a formal
proposition 10 that effect.
Nj McMahon-How did YOU come to 90 TO the com
ruiIfcc-rOop 10 look for those dispatches
The Wincss-I had heard from Governor Ste9rns that
ccgrahe trs%ns nad esdea sh"t %G stc
%nsy ycordenr there were no such dlspatchc. and
wanted 10 verify this opinion. l made search, but
failed 10 nnd any
WHAT CHANDLER DID WITH THE CIPHEES.
On being asked how he came to know that the
cipber dispatches were in the hands of General
Brady, Mr. Chandler stated that Mr.. Eugene Hale
came and informed him, because the witness had
made so bitter complaint from the Spring OF 1877
M 70 thst time with regard to the stopping OF the
investigation of these dispatches Mr Chandler
said that he was bitter because the dis
matches which he had sent had been printed.
while the bonanza which lie was sure could be dis
covered if the other dispatches had been allowed
investigation, was lost he understood that after
be session OF Congress closed the cipher dispatches
had returned to the Western Union Telegraph Com
many and bv them had been destroyed; when Mr..
Hale convinced him that the dispatches were in ex
tcnce he at once repaired to General Brady house
and looked them over