The New York herald., 1879-02-09

O. Did you not intend to convey the impression
to the public that you knew nothing about the
transaction until the publication OF the Tribune
dispatches A. did not think it conveyed that at
all.
vey to the public the impression that you knew moth
ing about the negotiations themselves! A. tnrmly)-
did not.
O. You at least concealed the fact that you had in
formation with regard to those transactions A BE
good enough to read the next sentence III my card
you will observe that the two States of South Caro-
lima and Florida dealt with separately; no one
OF thess kilograms. either in cipher or translated
was ever shown or its contents made known to me.
q. You there confne your knowledge to the tele-
grams. and did not say that you knew of the trans
action A. Yes, sir
Q. Did it not strike you that it was calculated to
convey to the public that you not only knew moth
ing OF the teegrame but also nothing of the trans
action? A. No; could not say what knew about
these telegrams; knew nothing about them
q. Was not the question which you were replying
to before the public, that you knew nothing about
these transactions? A. with prompt dscisioa)
to the two transactions cannot help it If people
do not understand me; could not say that knew
though knew very little; knew nothing that WAS
III any OF these kilograms; knew no details of the
negotiations. but knew that there had been an
offer. and that the offer had been refused through
my intervention; there had been nothing but to
ceive offer and to refuse it, in Florida did not
know that there had been an Offer so that statement
had to be different.
q. That is, you were avoiding misstatement on
account of certain facts which. at the time you knew
A.
q. Insinuatingly) And so you made your denial in
such shape aud form that it would avoid conflict
when the facts became known? A. 1t was perfectly
consistent with the truth.
Q. We're you not conscious all the time that tho
matter which you were explaining to the public was
not the kilograms, after all but the negotiations
A. covered that in the next sentence
G. with touch OF mockery) Yes; but you do not
cover it in this sentence. do you? A. do not do
every thing i'll one sentence.
CHARGING WANT OF FRASKNEss.
@. Now why did you not say frankly that You knew
you then stamped it out. instead of saying what
might convey to the public the impression that you
not only knew nothing about the kilograms but OF
the transaction itself? A. Calmly and unnettled)
did not say anything of the kind; any man who will
read it will understand the distinction; man had
right to infer that any offers had been made; there
might have been u hundred male
g. But there were not a hundred made; there YVES
transaction to which attention was directed
Why did you not mention that one transaction II
you intended to deal frankly with the public. Why
did You not mention that one transaction! A. had
not seen any Of these despatches did not know
whether they were true not; not going to
speak about negotiations knew nothing about.
O. But at that time you knew that Pelton had gone
to Baltimore to engage in propositions of that kind
A. knew he had gone there to receive proposition.
O. Why did you not state that? A. 1t was not nec-
essary: it was not pertinent
O. Was it not Decessary for the information of the
communty-wben you undertook to inform the
communicable you should inform them about
what you kneT about this matter? How did it hap
pen that you omitted this fact which you knew? A..
Because that fact was not pertinent to anything in
the discussion.
IMPERTINENT FACTS.
O. Was 1t not pertinent to the information of the
public As to your knowledge on this subject? A.
That was not among the things undertook to state.
O. You say that the transaction OF the Board Of
Canvsssers in Florida was mentioned to you past
event, accompanied by the statement that the offer
Marble
20. Why did you not inform the public in your
cardf = A. That was not necessary: nee IS . w..
that the faith Of these dispatches Mr.. Marble
very severely incriminated. and your statement
that he had mentioned it to you would tend to con-
Arm the public opinion in that direction? A. Not in
the least.
omitted? A. 1t was not it was Indifferent.
q. with studied formality) You did not keep it
out in furtherance of any design that you haa in
your mind A. The Baltimore transaction was very
different; did not have the intention to keep it
out; had no intention of putting it in.
O. Did you not draw up this card so as to avoid
mentioning that? A. drew. these sentences very
carefully so as to conform to the exact truth
O. Not only to the exact truth far as the public
knew it, but to the exact truth 80 far as you knew
A. Yes, sir.
O. Did you have any interview with Mr. Weed be-
fore going to South Carolina? A. did not.
O. Did you remember having interview with
him at any bank? A. had no conversation with
him Ut any bank.
nection with the Oregon affairs. Mr.. Jortian's bank
the bank that Immediately advanced on Colonel
Pelton's or somebody else's suggestion $4,000 for
deeringly) legitimate legal expenses in oresonY A.
O. (Pressing) Be frank with us. A. (pla,idly) I
perfectly frank with you sir; have no recollec-
tion of seeing him there; do not remember
meeting him at any particular time.
O. About what time il that Mr.. Marble CON-
% Did Mr. Marble consult You with regard to the
publication of that very celebrated piece of rhetoric'
A. He probably talked with me on that subject
O. Did he read you any of the sentences? A.
think very likely he did.
O. The publication was made with your assent
A. Neither my assent nor my disapproval
Ma
O. Did you make any comments. after your knowl-
edge of the Baltimore transaction, that il a lit
there anything hypocritcal about it A. No;
there not, far rs knew.
Here Mr.. Reed relinquished the witness and Mr..
Q. desire to ask q question. understood that
there was telegram to George W. Smith, dated
November "a. Tallahassee: did you see it A. No;
do not remember seeing it.
Q. Have you any doubt that you did see il A.
do not know that such telegram addressed
TO him or received; do not remember anything
about it remember seeing it here in this pamphlet
think ii he received ii he probably showed it to me-
q. Now. in that despatch occurs this phrase. See
my despatch to Spain" II you saw that despatch
would not that have attracted your attention A.
Perhaps it would. and perhaps 1t would not
q. You felt Interested as Presidential candidate.
ami as the representative of your party in the result
in Floriia a. did.
q. You were watching the proceedings in those
States with great interest? A. was watching the
proceedings with q certain amount OF interest.
Q. (satiricaly) Was IT not Indifference? A. Not
absolute indifference; did not occupy myself with
what was no good.
Q. Did you not keep yourself posted far to be
advised OF what was going on9 A. Not very fully
q. Well. il a despatch was shown you containing
the phrase, ''Sce my despatch to Spain, the very
language that despatch would have attracted your
attention? A. 1t might have done so.
@. Here is "a despatch saying. 81 decline to commit
Tilden with man indiscreet. Now, sir, have
you recollection Of having seen that despatch? !?
A. know never did.
THE cLosENEss THE FLORIDA CONTEST
@. In Florida the democrats claimed majority?
A. About ninetythree or ninetyhve. including Baker
county. undoubtedly.
q. Did you know how that information con-
veyed here? A. / did not found il in the
papers
q. Did you receive any earlier information than
that which appeared in the newspapers A. do not
believe did know never saw that despatch.
O. You do not believe that any such despatch as
that was ever sent TO Gramercy Park? A. do not.
q. And do you believe that any of your friends
would have taken the liberty to intercept despatch
TO YOU? A. IL was not addressed to me: 1 UNDER
stood that the dispatches addressed to Colonel Pei
ton were, by standing order sent to the committee
rooms.
o. You have no idea that Mr.. George W. smith
would have taken the responsibility of failing to
hbit TO you any despatch which he rcccivedY A. No