, 1879-08-14
Billy Mcneil Makes Ono Kognrd-
ing His Alleged Partners.
Huber Says that AID. Cook Tried to
Bulldozo Him,
And AID. Cook Makes Statement TINT
lie Did Not.
Othor Statements by 0thor Fellows, In.
;. oludipg Frank 1awlor.
The Examination Of Witnesses II at
nn End.


r few corrections In bis Testimony Of the
day before. III Ind revised lila calculation.
oul found TINT tho crushing weight of tic piers
wa, about 303 tons to tho Rutlaro foot, Instead
NJ 400 tops, rs !o had previously stated. air.
Clcayela,ltl Bnit1 ho know at il,e time the brick
wprc poInE II, tint they wcro not nil sowcr'brfci,
In, they were very flne Eradn ot brirk, mucll
letter than ordinary, and he thought ho would
IN tlern ro To, While they wcro not strictly
,ewct.br,ck. they wcro Of such q good quality
lint II was thought there would be yerf little
a,frcrcncc, Ho believed TINT tho change
NJ hrck would benefit tho contractor to Il cur
tain neutrality-suspicious. 81 per 1000. There VIA
hut one thing for them to do,-cltllcr to stop
tho work or arcept those brick.
Mr. t.r.uuell asked 1T. tho difference In tho
COS. Of sewrr-hrlrk and the brick used would
mt Offset tho extras called for by tho con-
tractors. ....
Wltpcss thought IL might possibly, but he
wca not prepared to say. The brick were not
s,,ct1y aewer-brck, but they were hard.
though rough. lie beloved TINT good quaI-
,ty Of sewer-bsics would hayo mado better
wall.
Tic attention Of the witness vas cnllod to
TIE CRACK
which appcars III ono Of tho brick walls, md
he was asked what ho thought shuuld bo done
With IL.
MI. Cleveland replied t),at nothing should bo
done with It. Tho crack WAS no datnago 10 tho
wall. Tie inter was n basement wall and went
no further; It supported no weight but It's own.
All. Throop said It seemed rs though the
change OF brick was good thing for the con-
trastor, md contracts did NOT appear to amount
to 1muci,. That was tho infercuco thnt hc drnw
from the testimony Of this witness.
In reply to question BY AID. Throop, viii
ness satl thcro was no desire upon his part or
upou the part OF anybody to chcapcn tile work
down for tho henefs OF tbs contractors. There
were aome changes that decreased the cost and
some tint Increased It; ho dclicved that one
Offset the other. At the tlmo OF the
settlement there was dispute upoa sono
10000 brick, which lad mover been fully settled
set. Tile CHIN Of the brick mgn for extras vas
based upon the Insertion TINT the thickness Of
the stone was not up to the specifications. II
there was any difference In tlu stone, the az
count was kept by Mr. jordan and afeo by Mr..
Mcneil, md from tt1np TO tine they would COM
paro their figures anl 1nnkc their estimates. II
tlc STONE was thinner than the notifications
called for, this difference was added 10 tho brick;
II thicker, 1t was taken from the brick. The
brick extras comprised the Filings in the piers
and supplying shortages In the stonc-work, but
hail nothing to do with the basement.
AID, Th1oop said tic Mayor testified tho day
buiore tiiat hu wished to ayo!l all the extras to
could, hut hc did not SEQ how he was going to
Eut 1T that II tho plnns wcru not right, or wero
not followed
AID. Phelps asked the wttneas It tho brick
contractor wns not after alI the extras ic could
get. Witness tlnught tint tsc WAS Laughter
Continuing his testimony. Alr: CloaVeaantl
stntel that There was nothing unfa,r whatever
lu letting tho contract. Tl.ero Was no other set
Of u1u,s in existence but the act tlen before tllo
Committee. Everything vas just aa tile Conn
nttcc Bnw It there before them Every man IN
The city hul tic Same opportunity to pxatiltne
the tletnis.
4 LONG DISPUTE AROSE
over tho plans regarding the Btonc-work, md
there appeared to hc diversity OF opinion IN
tho understanding u tlle specifications. Mr.
Cleayoland inserted tlat tho linz of stufie'work
facing the brick wall WIS intended to be M ni-
even liuo, showing all UNEVEN surface to the
nbne. Taking 1t for granted TINT tliu stone was
thinner than was called for, Aid. Pllclps Bald the
c1,ras for brick.wurk wunll hc enormous. md
Aid. Kiordan thought that the cost would bo
more tilan The cost Of tho br|ck.wosls in this
County Building.
sir. Clcayslatti repeated tho testimony Of ex-
Mayor tlrath IN regard to what Alr. Mcneil said
about the brick arcf,eB. Ilc told t!,ctn tint II
1tley would let him build the arches OF brick
aml cover them with tllc flour he wonll say
nothing u0rD about extras. Witness uadcr.
stood that tllo claim for extras would comprise
ule wholn bnsonlent.
Aid. Phelps said that he would ratl,cr haye
the ronrnof brick arches tlau thu Stone, and ull
present agreeA with him.
Quite sensation, was caused by difference
70 memory, hutwccu the witncs. ua1 :. unclu
Billy y Mcneil, tue brick contractor. Witness
stated TINT Mr. Mcneil told him tllut there were
several different parties interested III tho brick
work.
NIL ANGUS, MI. EDWIN WALKER, AND lIH.
WlLK1E.
"tnclo Billy" who stnod near tho Witness,
siit llu never mentioned thu 1nfnc OF Franc
N,!ke tu wltucBg.
Ut. :. i. Knba!t, agent for tho Singer Il Tai
COLI Stone EulnpanY. volunteered tle remark
uat tho 4fn,ss had been cEntginE Other proplg
with bu!nE accn for tile st0nl,-work, And hc
stoull aay the T;,n<s had been seen by tho brick
men, llo always thought the Times hal MI III
sessat u tue County Building contract, at'l n9"
he believed that i bad aa intercst Ia thu brick
Nr. Cleayeland IN rcsponso to questions,
stated tint hs had scon Nr. Wtlktc oil ihu build
lnE dozen or tweutY times. Al QUO tilns,
tos b basy 1 e'e nsa gntE = 'a ea 9se ss oa1 Mx1
wiea he saw them going oil. for llo lind lopca
~ slong that the piera would be filled up with
prick. Walker was also a. wisnrss number 0
o'acs TO have ts piers tlllod With brick.
MIR. M'NEII4
mere desired to makn speech. flo sa!d Il hAt
necn lnsiuuatcd BY Mr. cleveland lhut lie hat
to!u hin certain parties Wcro Interested In The
ni1cx.Work. llo n0vcr told lllul thAt Fran,
Wlkis was Interested. Wilktc was In Europe
at that timo.
Nr. Ceaveland said he would call h!s attention
~, 70 t'e tlmc, and did 40, but Uncle Billy y d.
1,ea eyer having said SO, lie saLd that ono dn'
@saYor Heath Rntl Mr.. CloayclAlld wera hIttint
aaa talKliV together ut ttp Washngtol'strec
G1staaee, when he came along ullll SAID; Mr.
hh.estl' II you want tite-uroof wall sou bat
nI1ef ssMs let mo build the arches of brick. ahl
ra H. p'aates them and put tIle Hour over them.
ttnq VA nothing said about sxtras At I'LL
A''es alf' luath said iu word, "uo It."
MR. HUBER,
NJ, S ,uhala.lookfng drauehtsnau, hera desired to
han hAAe statement III gosreetioI, OF the UIIe h
t%". au maae ttd daY before. It had bccu charget
th that 90 had been "accil." TAls hu dcuied. II.
tS eu wslt 9n to puint out thhiEa iu In
~. psans tl!4t hu considered had not been carrIrl
,nn,! w. N ule construction. There wuru change
IT, MsaS y; ~ the ptans after ttle contracts Were let
~ ~ aid not know whether tAu chauges wer
H. ,uaae TO benefit the contractor or not, but H.
uo not ehtnk changes weru lu tho luteFcs
os uhe city. eome Of tho jo!nta wer
saangeu, untl sonlo OF tic stob
t,a mete e iuade thinner, Ills impression Was tla
tAe EOttil3tttta nj r. RnVR MI thnV enutt