New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-04-05
THE PROCEEDINGS.


Neither of the counsel for the defence was
present when the moderator raped Tor order a fcw
minutes after ) O'Clock. Mr. Nil ard however came
I'm soon after the opening prayer, which made by
d. Cuyler. He had scarcely taken his seat when he
arose and addressed the moderator in low tone.
ins that he had been informed that d. spear was sick
and unable to be present The moderator made the
announcement, and Mr. Willard asked for 81 adj )urn-
mcut
The MOdcratOr-Thc trial mast proceed IN The absence
o. motion 10 adjourn.
After waiting moment Nr. Crosby called Thorra. T.
Pcarsau who took the oath. Nj O. sos stated tua u
was in~onvcuent f.r tins S'taese 20 come ana at
various tines AMI lie wished ask Ian quest ous on
five different specifications. Tic Witness testified hat
he was lawyer in this CITY and Ind wrd 80 Rgooyu
oil his life; he was once trustee ana pew-hotor i the
Tabernacle PRESBYTERIAN Church; he In the Tab
ernace on sunday october Is, 1876, and heard Mr..
Tanage give notice about TIE "hris'i0H al HOE lie
stated the substance OF the announcement which has
already been published in THE TBIECNE. TIE witness
testified that he member Of tie
Board Of Trustees and of the Pew Committee 4;
urce was fixed on nearly every pew and he igncd
them according to the price; when the iron church
was first occupied the pevs Free but after year
or two Il was found that that didn't Pay and prices
fixed for the pews; on nll the prominent pews the
amounts were written in pencil on a diagram Of The
church; all the officers knew Of this arrangement US
with Mr.. Talmage about the matter.
MR.. TALMAGE's PET IDEA.
Q-Were others pres 1t at these conversations A..
Two or three times Mr.. silcocks present. would
say TO him Dominic, almost every Sunday you say
That the pews are assigned without reference 10 the
dollar question Now, own audience know that this
il humbug aud they just laugh you. Why not rent
the pews square QUIT Wccan get OF them that
way" said this in substance several times. lie re
Piled that II was ms pet idea TO free church.
q" But YOU doing So" replied. He would say
that when it known that the church was not reo
he would leave IT,
Q-Was there any specific conversation al your
house A-Ies; he called 10 ask ne 10 JON the church
said, Dominic, caut join; am not good enough"
lie replied, You are great deal better than many
others who are In the church" / said, know thai,
Dominic laughter but am not good euouga, because
tee and assign seats in the way AIN doing"
lie Thought II was funny. lLaughterI
Odd he stop making The announcement referred
TO A-NO, cir. lie would often say The pews N
this church assigned without reference The dollar
question. Any person wanting pew can apply To the
could get good pc" ioI 81 as Tor 500 He
him IN a body aud begged HIM 70 leave 1t of
The witness was then questioned about l. W. Hath
away. lie testified that he knew Hathaway, who was
employed in renting tho pews and was elder III the
church he was directed by tho trustees 10 visit per
sons holding pews and induce Them 10 increase tnc
amounts they paying; he discharged LIS duties
faithfully, ana Was honest Then witness next TESTIFIED
that he was In the CITY Court on February y, 1879
while Gelston's suit progress; Or. Idlmagc
testified that the two kilograms % lie nephew John
Tamage III reference 20 the Ocbt Of the church. were
Keut BY him. The kilograms we're here put IN evidence
and read. They have been published III March, 1873,
Lie witness saw Nj Talmaee al his house thew talked
about the refusal 10 allow Mr. Morgan TO give concert
IN the church Mr. Tanagc said that he would mako "A
staIemcpt IN nm. congregation ON tbe urxt Sunday and
explain the whole matter; then there "a meeting OF
The elders and resolution adopted that the eI
piraton Oh MIR Morgans year OF service another organ
ist should De engaged ne did not know whether Mr.
Morgan retained he mad never been the
since AL the trustees thought II was settled that Nor
Gan was 10 60.
THIS closed the direct examination and Mr MLlard
taid that he had 10 questions 10 ask
]. W. HATHAwAY's TESTIMONY.
l. W. Hathaway took the stand aud examined
By MT. McCulsgb, He testified: am d miuieter; III