The New York herald., 1879-08-25
Statesmen Who Are Innocent Of
Schemes for Office.
THE CHURCH "BOOM." "
Probable Withdrawal of Governor Rob
inSOn as a Candidate.
SOLDIERS TO THE FRONT.

New York factions. Among the representative men
here
John Kelly. solid. norid and Arm. the acknowl-
edged leader of those democrats who are known to
be adverse to the claim on the Presidency and OPP
posed to using the next State administration to ad
vance the Claimants interests. But Mr.. Kelly is
hcre merely for recreation. to enjoy with his family
the sanitary benefits of the springs. and his visit
has nothing whatever to do with politics.
Ex-Governor Hoffman. smooth. polished and po
lite. who went into training for the Presidency
years ago under the old Tammany auspices. and who
is q firm believer in the recuperative powers of
Ex-Governor Of the State of New York. who is not
dead. but sleepeth. But Ex-Governor Hoffman is
here merely because Saratoga is the natural summer
resort of Albanians and his visit has nothing what
ever to do with politics.
Congressman Clarkson N. Potter, diplomatic.
plausible and discreet, whose established national
reputation does not entirely preclude the thought
that the Governorship OF New York may prove use
full stepping stone to position next to the highest
on future national ticket. But Mr.. Potter
whose visit was brief one, extending only over q
single night, and who left to-day-was here simply
An important member Of the Bar Association. and
his visit has nothing whatever to do with politics.
William c. Kingsley. TALL taciturn and intelligent.
who. although not the most prominent publicly. Is
the most influential privately, of all the Brooklyn
democratic leaders. But Mr.. Kingsley likes Sara
toga, enjoys driving his fine horses on the roads
surrounding the Springs. and his visit has nothing
whatever to do with politics.
Thomas s. Kinsella. the proprietor and editor Of
one OF the best daily papers in the United States
outside New York city. and an influential democratic
leader in B' ooklyn. But Mr.. Kinsella came here to
rest after editorial abors and his visit has
nothing whatever to do with politics.
Senator Pierce, OF Brooklyn, shrewd and nom
committal. who has managed through his political
career to maintain friendly relations with the anti
Tsmmany democracy of Brooklyn, the Tammany
democracy Of New York, Judge Church, John Kelly.
Samuel J. Tilden. Governor Robinson and the rest
of mankind But Mr.. Pierce Is at Saratoga under
medical advice to try the springs. and his visit has
nothing to do with politics
Edward Kearney and Edward Gale, two New York
democratic politicians Of the Samese twins order.
who very faithful to the fortunes Of the present
management Of Tammany. and usually found
prominent in its campaign man@uvres. But Mr..
Kearney and Mr.. Gale here because-well. proba-
bly,. because their great leader is here, and their
visit has thing whatever to do with politics.
Attorney General Schoonmaker, who will no doubt
be renominated to the position he now holds and
which he Is said to have filed very well. provided
the old ticket il renominated. at least the tail of
the old ticket. and who may be thrown overheard
with the rest II the present troubles end in q ew
deal all round. But Mr.. Schoonnaker is here the
very important matter of the Connecticut boundary
line. and his visit has connection with politics.
Secretary of State Beach, who has been mentioned
in connection with the nomination for Governor on
the anti Tilden side. and who will accept again the
office he now holds and in which he is popular.
provided the cards do fall well the guberna
toral trick. But Mr. Beach Is also here to look
boundary interests with the state OF Connecticut
and his visit has political object or significance.
WHAT IT MEANS.
The above list might be indefinitely extended and
made to include senators. Assemblymen and aspi-
rants to political leadership from all parts of the
State. But cui b0nOY Pleasure or business alone
calls them to this pleasant summer retreat. and
their visits have connection Whatever with polit-
ical matters, OF what good is 1t to 90 minutey over
Ii is noteworthy, however that when these gentle
OF pleasure or business are led into political
conversation their views peep out with tolerable
distinctness. and. gathered into a group by which
comparisons may be made, the result indicates that
the democrats of New York may be divioed into
three distinct parties. namely
l. Anti Robinson men who boldly declare that
they WILL not submit to the present Governor
nomination even though he should be the nominee
OF nine-tenths or the Syracuse Democratic Conven-
ton. but will bolt the ticket and elect the republi-
IL he should be placed ut its head.
,. Robinson men " ho have ''got their backs up
in consequence OF the positive stand taken by the
former against the Governor. and who in their
vindctive spite against Timinany. clainor for Rob-
inson and nothing but Robinson.
8. Democrats who are Robinson men. and who
were disposed to favor his nomination, but who
agree with the Western and Southern that
loss OF the State New YORK this year pre-
cudc all thought of New York nominee Tor the
Presidency next year. and who have become con-
vinccd that to place Governor Robinson's name now
Mt the head Of the ticket will be to insure the defeat
of the democracy beyond peradventure.
The meaning of all this is that Lucius Robinson's
chances of being again the democratic candidate for
Governor may be considered as ut an end. Not that
his friends may not have the majority of the SYRIA
cuse Convention, but that the cooler aud wiser OF
them, having become entirely satisfied that while
he may be nominated ne cannot be elected, will not
be willing. tor the sake Of q barren triumph
over rival politicians. to throw away the
chances OF the democracy in the far
more important game for the Presidency
OF Tammany and it's connecting links throughout
the State. while it might not in reality be able to
turn any great number of votes from the regular
democratic nominees fairly chosen, would have
depressing effect on the entire party and render
defeat so probable that the canvass would be over
the nominations made For this
reason they ask why they should crafty personal
advantage gratincation would be their triumph In
the state Convention when it was followed by defeat
at the polls?
CHURCH Vs. ROBINSON.
Tho policy of the antRobinson party Is now be-
yond doubt settled upon. They lind Mr.. Beach not
strong enough to defeat the present Governor They
cannot make the slightest step toward with
Dorsheiner. VINO Is dead aud buried politically be-
yond resurrection. They are debarred from using
the magnetic name of Huratio Sey mour. They will
strive their utmost to induce people to beeve that
there is sinilsr magnetism In tine name of Sanford
Church. and their plan Is to press the Chiet Jus
tice of the supreme Court the Convention their
nominee tor Governor.
Some years ago Judge Church might have boon
q fair and available successor to Horatto Seymour,
Us a sensation In n democratic convention. lie is
popular man, square-toed democrat and has made
good judge. But IL must be remembered that the
next Democratic Convention will be composed la
great measure-probably in q prcponderating meas
ure--of Tilden delegates The trends OF AIR. Rob-
inson also the friends of Mr.. Tilden and while
they arc. many of tbein-the Kings county demo
Gratis especiaiIy-the warm admirers of Governor
Church, they do not and cannot overlook the
sefeviaent fact that Judge Church's caudi-
dacy means not tho defeat OF Robinson
alone. but the political assassination-mor-
ally speaking--of Samuel J. Tiiden. They
not stupid enough to suppose that Mr.. Tilden
and his friends in the State would support Judge
Church. The bolt would. in the event the Judges
nomination. come from the Tden faction. just az in
the o, Robinsons nomination IL would come
from the Tammany faction. The fair Robinson
democrats who are personally friendly TO Judge
church AJAX why they should uiye nm Rohins nson IN