New-York tribune., 1879-01-28
Tue CIPHERS TAKEN IN HAND.
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We have authority to Investigate all details of the
alleged transactions, whatever they may be- Ihat WAS
something that toos place prior to me October eeei1n
ami does not come IN any portion oi The scope OF tas
resolution But these dispatches are part OF tue ma
chlncry of tIe election of 1876.
Mr Reel-what does he mean by machinery
SIr. McMshor-I mean officers in the Interior De.
plrtment, officers in Louisiana mean INC Army |
mean uuscrupuous President, an unsctupulous lot
oi officers and good many men outside "hoare wihS
10 act uuscrupulOUsly.
Mr. McMahon"'rhc innocent gentleman from Maine
had nothing do with these transactions, or course
Let 90 IN 1876. certain gentlemen Hot anxious
about their dispatches and they go to President
OrtOn ask that certain dispatches passing between
the Attorney General ana me prospective minister 10
NeNco shall be destroyed. This was computed
VITA. and now wish Ia show thar these ds-
patches were Of political character. DO the
gentlemen thnk that hen go INT" the investigation
10 these cipher dis"aiches that to be satisfied
with kilograms published IN IhE NLM-loKK IkIB!Ns
lucy must ullhh ~ hIV 'hl4i.n " " - - h.7
both sides. 1t is pretty well known that tm'
resolution offered py ttS committee az nj suSscs
tion because wanted the Democratic party 10 show 10
the country and think viii show that u Il capable
of investigating both side, thoroughly even though
such investigation may hurt its men a. wei -
the other side. I want to bc,ieve tis'r thc
Democratic party Will ,hayo standmS III TIN 'ofr
try proves Itself equal H. do that. and no"
lay publicly iht should ike both sd- To p" ;hor'n--
y investigated. and not co"ilnc eur ll"'', i"s- 10
indicating or >mirching Mr iiiden e.h'. W ""a.
know whether Prcsldeu5 orton Wa' man WE"
might he used for political purposes N"iI mol l"i d
momcnJ deny Mgsst'' iyncr' irs le,.r - IN r
of mal,Ius a fuller explanation. 10 Geny th,,
We are entitled TO know If these polite! trie
grams, and rart OF The general scheme '''ai to
know If Mr. Ortou these tr!eSrams NJ alt. f'ceN
iug the subtGHa of the committee. =,
Mr. Reed-It Is very proper to ask 1t, as Mr. Otton Is
Mr. Ii-cock-r have been somewhat critical thi' after
noon in reference To this investigation because II seems
were the published di-patcl les only. Inc rtHo-
uton asked for the inyes i-auon OF certain
,,tthfi si.I nd
throughout the land Instead Of t1s We s. en- {" 'c
striving prove that somebody ha> destroy ed some 0i
and strong argument, that II We only had the dis
patches burned We shoud have something as
That seems to be the drf, Of tie pycStieaton and
therefore II Is that am inclined 10 be ciltlca We
convict those who charged with crimes and misdc
meIn0rs 10 which they refer
MT. McMahon-rhc General is taking very narrow
Mr.. + iIisc,ck-No sir. am not Dcmocr9ts offered
this resolution the House. They Dr. u occau>" thrr
chiean had been assaulted aud We suppose " was ot
the purpose OF y!ndicatng hm and also f. esLtols!i
the marty IN the eyes OF che country. They dd not
Offer to investigate any dispatches that had Dec"
Mr McNahon-rhat IL, you want to investigate Dem
ocratic dispatches only; want to inytausa" ooh Re
Mr.. Hi.rock-N0. since the Democrats have invited
us east propose they snail eat the s'me i,re
Mr.. Ne Mahon-YOu DO not lihc tbe Porh dH' n'au'
We are giving you nowl
REQUIRED TO ANSWER.
Gcueral Butler here returned To the question oi
privilege, and read authorities on the subject It
was then determined take vote upon the question
of whether the witness should be called upon 10
answer or not. All members present voted III the
Affirmative with the exception of the chairman.
Mr. Hscock-Now wish yen had put the other quer-
tiOn az whether the question which II asktd the VII
ness is pertinent 10 the inquiry.
A vote was taken and it was decided that the eX-
animation should proceed.
The Witues,-I am unable to recOllect what he told
mr. I Is my impression and belief tbat he brought those
tccgfms copies of them, ana read them out 10 me.
reInarkIng that it extraordinary case. /
am unable to separate III my m'ud my re-
mcmbr nccs OF what in them from Whai nave heard
other witnesses say to-day. never saw The ele grams
To the best my belief tncy related 30 some Urty
nice OF work In regard to tho sale OF offices for some
political ends
frr shed memory that yOu caA say an uhirdIh-
fu account has been given OF the teegranls-ENen Dy
other witnesses!
MIR Uscnck-I object this question, and ask that II
be ruled out. IL like putting six Witnesses on the
4 vote was taken and Nessrs. lliscock. Reed and
the Chairman voted against the question.
Witness answered that the testimony he had
heard was supplementary TO his recollection. and
went beyond it he did not think the dispatches
were cipher dispatches, strictly defined
The Chairman stated that he had received a let
ter from Mr. Brady 10 the effect that he would ap-
near before tne committee next morning.
The committee then adjourned until ! l o'clock
tomorrow mOrning