The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-06

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Monday morning, in the early morning. think
from my present recollection.
Q.IHow long did you remain thero2 Al
rea'hed there on Monday, and my Impression
IS that left there ON the Saturday night follow
inG' 81 lhat had Just boon there six DAYS.
u nero d.d you go from CoumbiaP Al
Q.nrTo what point? A-Tho llrst stopped at
was Baltimore.
Q.-Ilow long did you remain therc2 A
From tho arrival of the train. about or
O'Clock in the morning, think. until the even-
O.-Well now, sir, tell US If you had any con-
ncctQn with or knowledge Of the cipher de-
in tho New York niIune5 and, if YOU have had
any such connection or knowledge. please state
haSo, to tne Committee 6es to say, sir that we
them probably and II YOU wish to refer To- thcm
we Will open the bundle. Al do not know
when IN hcrc. and iclceraphcd here in that
cipher from North Carolina aud South Carolina
both. may say here that when ler had no
intention tu visit South Carolina. My mission
was entirely To North Carolina when | left here
II ihr Committee desire | will state what
found thrre' what telcgraphed. ami what
answers got.
Mi ilunion-vcry we'll sir.
MIR. Suringer-from both States A.-From
both. If there is no objection topcning n roll OF
MIR. Reed must object. Mr.. Chairman. to- the
read linz OF written statement memorandum
made to refresh the memory must bc made at
or near the tme and the witness has no right
TO 20 rraI memorahda male long subsequently in
Mr.. Hunton-Wc do not want any written
statements nut If the witness desires 10 refer TO
any m"inuranda mndc soon after the trans
actions. see no objection.
Witness do not desire TO override any ot
your rules. ana propose TO be governed by your
dctrminnton; yet. In a transaction OF this
Kind and at this lapse of time. It must be APP
parent to any gentleman who desires a fair con-
nr'ti statement mat u VIII require some
thought to give IL. and for that reason have
communication yesterday | did prepare u
memorandum oi my trip. simply for the pur
pose oi putting II in connected shape. That IS
the mgmorandum / have hofurc me. and ii
seems but fair To mo that rs IL was so long ago,
and Of maiter that has partially passed out Of
my mind | should have the right 10 look nj H.
After some discussion between the mcmbcrs
OF the Committee upon the question Of tho uso
Of the memorandum. the Chairman instructed
the witness That he might not read il but might
refer to II II he found IT necessary 10 do so and
| with this understanding directed him to pro-
| coed. The witness then went on IN follows:
In reference to those dispatches. DESTROYED
| my key that | had to them worry soon after |
came BACK. and DESTROYED the dispatches also.
| so that have no means 9i knowing the accu-
rlcy OF the printed publications Of them. ex-
| celt from my present recollection OF the trans.
| action to which thcy refer some OF them, |
| am certain are not correctly printed: some
| know 9re not correctly translated.
| recollection Of facts ~ they transpircd. / left
| here for Raleigh. us ! said with no expectation
| the reason that II WAS rumored here that ennis
| saros had been scnt hy the Republicans 10 that
| state. Somebody had telegraphcd from here
| Committee. that was on my way, and he en-
gagged rooms for me at the hotel, and met me
| on my arrival. told him my business. and hc
| said that Con. i.patrck had been there with
! others within a day or two. and had requested
| the CanvassiEg Board. who were Republicans.
as they informed me. 70 give that state 20 Hayes
| but that the Canvassing Board had informed
! Gen. Fitzpatrick that the Legislature met IN two
| weeks. that there was a Democratic majority in
| both branches. and II they did as he requested
| II would be impeached In twenty-four hours.
| lie lntf- | I talarfflrlNl tsNt in riIlrr ID NpN
! YORK. directed To Henry Hayemeyer. and stated.
in substance, that was not needed, that nobody
| wis needed there and lntmated that ! would
| come h4me. got despatch from somebody
| 10 New York. asking me 20 70 To Columbia. 5. g..
| that day took the first train for Columbia.
| While ~ Raleigh was called upon 10y and met
! a large number OF gentlemen living In that
| stat. some oi whom had known before. some
| of whom was then introduced 70. nnl passrd
| proprietor of the hot'l IN my own name and
| did not register un Ter The name OF Thomas
Keith, rs stated in SOM. y Nv York papers. or IN
ward tlat was l1llo sod byah employee Of the
Post On'c Departments. who ~ 'grnpned from
thrrs TINT was rrgi-tcrri Hs Thomu- Keith.
By Mr Redo Q.-Do you Know that u your
NJ hln self. that he followed M.
A-Hi- nnmr is J. ward Webster. and ho ro
p.oycd In ths lost Onio DcMrtmrn, 50. al
least WIS informed 10y him, Incr" was "A de-
y
registered as Thomas Keith. say this brrau-'
% la- been stated that ! WA travelling undo
AN assumed name in tho southern States.
/ saw II in IN, papers. ! found at Columbia
when reached there. large numhel
OF people. quite a number Of both polltica
parties with whom was very well acquainte,
ana VINO knew me very well. l went 1.
| a hotel aud registered my name. and Will,
there m Columbia. was with ana well known tc
| Gov Hampton ana some other gentlemen
there. and went with them beiore the Canvass
taiions dircrtly with the CanyRssng Board o
South CrollnG; but soon alter rturhin Colum
bia and in iuct on the train before ! got there
| was informed that the Canvisslng Board o.
TINT STATE Will" admitting privately that th'
State had gone for the Dcmp 'ratic Electors o
tn Demo 'ratlc tirket. would not give thr Ger
| thrni1 10 the demo rats. Tor the reason that
number Of tn IN were candidates for Office a
the same election and that thcir dcterm nation
in favor OF the Democrats would count them
selves out, unless they were paid for II.
By Mr. Hisrock-lt would facilitate matters
| be would give the sources oi his Information a
Witnes--Iam not abe to say from whom
obtained the first Information about them
| HumOrs were very thick in South Car1lln
whcn got there, and ! cannot give tho nam
p Ea nar @ Wo b tTa1 VII S wSs ro Ivy
gentlemen in tue scat in front of me. stranger
10 me- who were taking 1t over, ana mhIe IN
statenoni 10 that rnot. ono OF them was
| gentleman | SAW thcrn nttcrward, hut DO ~
remember his name was inquired 81 whelhe
Their. could be any money furnished. FulY be
lieviug then what believe 10 hayo been sin'
fully demonstrated. thnt tho Democrats ha
carried two at least of the thrc" disputed Suite
AMI thut al don't know whnt y5u may 'tll II
but A conspiracy / should say. mai been iorme
on the R-pu ID nm side tO count us ont und tina
ilthe vote II South Carolina was asst IN iavo
of the Democratic rlectnrS-as believed II m
been honestly cast 10y the peoplc-thal 1t On
cons piracy would be there ut an end, bccaus
they would not pretend to take rlther Louisinn
or Florida and they ought 10 have all the tire
Stnt.r to consumnnt' thrir arrangement
determined to see what there was OF II ana
once teegraphed to New York. asking If none
could be- furnished.
O-Cnn you refer 10 that telcgrnmf A
D cannot refer to any especially. There are
number Of kilograms ON that subject IN tli
- book which have seen publish 81 mat VINE
Mr. Reid has in his hand. TIM Tribune publ
I ! cationl / don't know TINT can refer u an
4 | / PROPOSE simply to give the story OF TINS al
rangrinent 10 the Committee M 1t occurred. An
[ | ! suppose tnat is what you are after Mhethe
I | the dispatches. ~ published are correct or IA.
| 80. have not paid much attention u, as !
| not deem tnat Consideration important. tel,
4 ! rraphed To- New York to- ilnd uut--
/ Q.-NhotuY A.-Yo Mr.. Henry liaVemcye
r | Every leApatch / wrote. ~ far as ! fecoll' g
n from the South. WIS TO Henry liavcmeyer, Il
y rooted to him, Sundr( drSpntcltns were nei
o backward and forward and iinAly prom
sitiun WAS presented to me-. which transnllttr
T.. to Now NprK-A definite prupusitlon on the pu
= Of tho Re.uruing or CanNhsslng b9nrd Of I'M
| State. Offering 90 give ita vote to tho Dtmocrat