The New York herald., 1879-02-07

that occupied the position of acting secretary to the
National COMMITTEES. but really was not on1cialy
Mr.. Pelton was here asked to look at his testimony
| given before the Senate comm tee. when Mr..
time of the com mittee in questioning Mr. Pelton
tho subjects which he had testined before the
Senate committee as it was very yoinminSus and
proposed that the committee incorporate the printed
testimony of Mr.. Pelton with its report. -
Mr.. Reed replied that it might be well to give Mr.
Pelton the benefit OF present recollection in regard
to the seeming contradiction above alluded to as to
his being Secretary of the National Committee. The
witness nmatcd that if Mr.. Reed wanted to interro
gate him the subject he would that his espla-
perfectly consistent with the facts At the request
OF Mr.. Hunton the witness read an extract from his
| testimony before the Senate committee, which set
FORTH in substance that he the dc dct0 Secretary
of the National Democratic Committee, but not act
Ing officially in that capacity Colonel Pelton was
now examined about the Oregon cipher telegraIns
but nothing new was elected. that Mr.. Springer
again suggested that it was unnecessary to examine
Mr.. Pelon to the matters hc had already testified
1 to before the Senate committee, but Mr.. Reed ex-
pressed his belief that the examination should pro-
/ cced saying that there were some things which the
/ committee which he appeared now to remember
| THE OREGON CIPHER DESTROYED.
General Hunton requested the witness TO look Mt
| copies Of several oregon cipher dispatches. and
asked whether hc recognized them. The witness re-
piled that probable that dispatches of the
| import mil have been received by him. but the
Oi egon ciphers had been destroyed he could not
recognize those shown or even tho substance Of
General Hunton-Look at the telegram 70 j. X.
Kelly. without signature; do you recognize who
Q. 1t has been attributed to you do you recognize
it as your telegram? A. No. sir, do Dot.
q There were great many kilograms addressed to
You to No. Is Gramercy Park; did you receive
them all there? A. No. sir; received nearly all of
them at the committee rooms IN the Everett House,
| where was spending the most OF my time
q. Was Mr.. Tilden ccgnizant OF your negotiations
in regard to the Returning Boards? A. No, sir; I
fed ha u q
| the national committee in attempting to purchase
the Returning Boards
ton, and, having by this tim, got somewhat used to
the ordeal he turned round. with smile, to Mr..
| Reed, who opened very searching and Mercless
| cross-exaniinston.
| THE RossExAMlNArIoN.
In reply to Mr.. Resl's first queries Colonel Pelton
replied that during this elegraphic CORRESPONDENCE
he said that he resided in Governor Tildens house
at No. Is Gramercy Park; he had no regular business
to claim his attention, and devoted at the time, all
his attention to election matters.
Q. Prior to this political engagement of yours
| what yonr business? A. For two years previous
to that was at Albany with the Governor.
@. You were man OF small means in your own
upon what you call small means. (Laughter.)
Objection made by Mr. Springer to this line of
questioning to the witness means, and Mr.. Reed
stated that his object was to that Colonel Pei
ton himself had no means to carry out his bargains
as 10 such large sums OF money as $4,000
Il can save you trouble entirely about that, "
Colonel Pelton jerkily exclaimed.
Excuse me-" retorted Mr.. Reed. Il don't want to
II will simply say" returned Colonel Pelton ''that
did not have sufficient means to carry out either
one of these transactions"
Q. And that we'll known among your CORE
spondents A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you see Weed before you went down to Bal
tinore (? A. had an interview with him.
Q. Did you have any conversation with him
A. said had m interview. Was not that conver-
@. (petulantly). Don't let's have any quibbling;
let's have plain. straightforward answer! A. tstol-
Mr.. Springer objected to this pethod of examina.
ton, applying the word counsel to Mr., Reed.
"If YOU are occupying such position retorted
Mr.. Reed. 'dont attribute 1t to us please. No, sir;
are all gentlemen here, engaged IN searching for
the truth and justice and all that sort OF thing.
laughter. At any rate let keep up the talk about
it as If it were 50. all the same. you KNOW 1t don't
fool anybody yop know. but it's just as well to do
Q. Was there anything said by you to Mr.. Weed
about cipher a. Oh. yes.
Q. Why did you have the dispatches sent to Mr..
Henry Havemcyer A. Openly. To insure greater
20. You took the precaution of dos,ble ciphers a
substitution and transposition cipher. and the
third prccaution of having sent the kilograms to Mr.
Havemcyer's house? A. Oh, WE'LL THE two ciphers
were the same thing.
@. (unctnously). You intended to correspond with
Mr. Weed on something you wanted to keep very
u secret A. No more than any other.
a This reply did not please Mr.. Reed. and he rciter
ated 1t three times. but with no better result
q. Give us the language You used when you gave
Mr. Weed the cipher? A. don't remember what
| q. Who got up the cipher? A. I dont remember
think it was gotten up that day or the day before
the Everett House; !, can't tell whether or he go
il mp: can't tell exactly when it was gotten up
q. You did not got it up before the election? A.
g. Then Mr. Weed must have been mistaken wher
ne said 1t was used before election? A. may bs
mistaken about my impression about it,
q. tdrily). Had you had any experience before in
the manufacture Of ciphers? tLaughter.l A.
think have invented some before; don't know
srlp or lhsf I'm
ton cipher was had All understanding with Weed
of what ~. s. best documents should mean; W,
had words for dollars" and for all the numerals;
can't remember in whose handwriting the cipher
was. whether in mine or in Mr.. Weeds or in that OF
any clerk Mr. King. ono Of the clerks, might have
copied it.
o. Have you not examined the translations of thes,
A. lightly). don't mean to say that they cor
rectly translated; have examined the translations
but can't tell whether the keys to the Florida anc
South Carolina ciphers were the same.
AN IMMORAL TRANSACTION
Mr.. Reed-Here is q transaction over which moral
lists are considerably exercised. Hcre is publica
ton which has been before the world tor -four
months and you mean to say you have not carefully
examined it?
Colonel pclton tstumblngiy)-well. don't SEE
Mr.. Reed-wcll. Governor Tildcn gave you rating
for it, Mr. Cooper has expressed his state of feelings
about it. the community has had something to say
about it, now do you mean to say that under these
circumstances when these dispatches were published
TO the world You did not carefully examine them to
see how iar the extent OF your guilt, IL you were
guilty had been discovered?
Colonel Pcltons face redeemed slightly but no re
| maincd unmoved under the stings of Mr. Reeds re-
lentcss and insisted that he did not believe
the keys to the Florida and South Carolina ciphers
werc the There was much wrangling about
this point. but with better result Colonel Pcton
was closely questioned as to how no gave the ciphers
to Marble. Coyc woocy and to the other democratic
| agents, but said he did not remember
| Mr. Rccd-You are not concealing anything from
| us. Colonel Pclton? A. oh. no. usaughter.)
q. You telling the entire truth? A. You
don't think I'd tell you anything else? daughter
O. only want TO know IL it's so, You will SEQ the
| reason why put the question by and by. Colonel
| Pelton only smiled in reply.
Mr. Reed wanted to know how Colonel Potion
understood Weeds telegram saying. .'It few dol
lars can be placed in Returning Board to insure What
say yuu? and he replied that he took IL . notih
cation that the hoard was purchasabic."
Hero, well as all through the cross-cxainin-
| alton. the witness was sharply attacked BY
kkMr. Reed and zcslousy protected Ivy tho
Chairman, General Hunton. and Mr. Springer.