The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1879-06-12
LOUISIANA SWEARING,
MORE WITNESSES GO CLEAN BACK
ON THEIR FORMER
STATEMENTS.
A Witness Gives the Names OF Several Persons
Who Induced Hin to Swear to q Lie.


Washington, June 9,-The Committee On Privi.
leges and Elections to-day resumed the investiga.
tiOn Of the Kelogg-spoHord case, and recalled
Thomas Murray, colored,
By Mr.. Merritk: Question On Saturday you
stated you had not been promised money, but you
told Mr.. DeLacy you could make $3.50. forgot
TO ask you how you were going to make the mon
ey, Anbwer-By coming here to tell the truth
and make reputation with mypeope. Itwould
be worth $3.50 to have the good people OF my
community with me.
Jules LeviRne, a member Of the PaC kaTd LPgis-
latuIe in 1877, ard present in the joint conven.
tion that elected Kellogg to the Senate was exam
ined,
Mr.. BeIriCk examined the ffldavit of witness,
who said he wrote 1t, and 1t bore his signature.
An sfRdavit was read stating why witnesSwa no
present in the Legislature In JanusIy, 1877, when
Kellogg was elected for a long term but voted for
him the next day.
Mr., Merrick-Is that paper tIue2 A-Itis not
true.
Q-Ten us who lied2 A.-The very parties
who induced me to make the affidavit knew 1t to
be lie.
Mr. Menick-I insist on knowing their names.
Al won't tell.
Mr.. KeTnan- As II is not q secret you must an.
swer. The witness then gave the name of Drou.
EFT.
Mr.. Merrick-We wart all ths names Of those
who induced you to swear what they knew wss
lieP A.-There were other parties without my
uncle, and I am sorry gave his name
Mr., Merrick-And you refuse to name others.
Mr. Kernan-Did you say they knew 1t was a
foIc NH Nbo
They knew 1t to be false
Q-who were they2 A.-That's what decline
to answer.
Q.-What reason can you give for not letting
the world know who these men arH The witness
after hesitating, said Cavanac is another.
Mr. Kernan-Who elks? A-Others wanted me
to wear to lie They did not induce me.
Thon as Murray and ]. W, Elder were among
them
In reply to Mr.. Hill, the witness said Cavanac
WAS present when he wrote the affidavit. Nobody
offered IN write IT, He wrote II by himself
Q-Wbat was the inducemI nj made to you pre-
vious to writing the sfidsvit2 A.-CavsOac said
l should have everything wanted as kellogg
was TO be put out or the Senate anyhow. Murray
tad there was sugar in 1t but did not ask me to
swear falsely. Drouett told me TO stand by my
affidavit.
Mr.. Merrick then cross examined the witness,
who said he made a second affidavit for E der,
VINO ealu ne WNulu uOL hUyInlURS ne t0lQ LAVs
anac he was not present at the election of Kellogg
but was locked up In a room.
Q-That was lie, blunt, straightforward lie.
Ayes
Q-Was what you did superindured by the love
OF Justice, truth, patriotism or sugar? Al never
was brbed, and parties themselves know It, be.
cause they had again and again offered me bribes
and refused them.
o,-Who were the parties7 Al decline to
state.
Mr., Hill-You must answer. AM Drouett
told me that II l recorded my vote for SpOfford 1
could get what wanted In money; / answered
could rot will you not he asked, do las favor
for me? replied, no, cannot, because 1t would
not be consistent to vote for two men for the same
office. lbis was in the Nichols Legislature.
Senator Kellogg interrogated the witness who
said He called at the Senator's rooms on bis ar
rival In Washington; merely shook hands with
him and did not remain ten minutes The witness
said he saw Elder for the first time in New Orleans
on tie I'd of May; Elder said he was from Wash
ington getting up testimony for spoford; the first
of three Hfidavis was given to E der because El-
der did not previously believe the witness was for
SpOfford by this way witness was posted as to
how parties were making up affidavit s; Elder told
him Cavanac was getting up atfidavits for Spof.
ord 10 show there was no quorum IN the Packard
Legislature that elected Kellogg; CavRnac wanted
an affidavit similar to the one witness gave to El-
der; the witness gave the names Of four men with
whom he joined to break the quorum, including
Murray and himself.
Q.-Was there not another man7 Ayes, but
they did not have so much confidence in him.
Laughter They were depending on the fact
that Thomas was not there; Watson was TO person.
ate Thomas: the witness did not know whether or
not Thomas was present at the joint tse6son Of the
Legislature, but thought he was.
Odd you knew Of Others who made afidavits
similar to yours? Alt is said one was made by
Brooks, but Brooks was present at the joint ses.
sion; l can't remember seeing bim there, but the
record shows that he was
Q-All this is new To me. Now tell me why
you signed the affdavit7 Al signed 1t to show
how essy It was to get up atiidavits knowing
them IN be untrue.
Q-You wanted to find ont all the facts in the
case, 10 learn all about it? A.-Thats 1t eK'
acty.
Q-Have you not been consistent Republican
and whenever you found point against Repub.
liCan you acted like detective and worked 1t
out? Ayes.
Q.-And whenever you saw a scheme on foot
you would follow II up and get to the bottom Of
II? Ayes / made stfidavit to obtain Elders
confidence, and went to CaVanac's othce to get
facts.
The examin alton the witness here ended.
Mr.. Hill said the witness came here on false tes-
timOny, and therefore he did not want bis fees
paid until the question could be settled by the
committee.
Adjourned until tomorrow.
ARRESTED FOR PERJURY.
W. ] DeLacey, witness for spohord, who tes-
tihed on Saturday and to-day, was arrested this
afternoon upon complaint of Cavansc, spoford'a
agent on charge OF perjury. BE gave bonds in
$500 for his appearance in the police court to-