, 1879-02-05

II couldn't ray, I presume JudEe bloaEcts
knew that VIC Ind. hernute re taea a.: I'LL ~,
fore the Grand Jury, anil hc must hays known
TINT VI fnu made some arrangement"
"For fmmunftyio .,..-.|
II don't kuow. l hare no tccolIecLloh Oh
talking with him on the subject. "a.
you will not state that you did not DO sol"
.When ~ vas tho Mum trlalt"
"iEow long before the Mum trial had you |
mntie The arrangement with lsrhmi'.
"1hrcc Or four weeks may no. The arrange
mens 9Th shm r.: as y nf
Washington AZ understood it,"
Did YOU talk win Judge nlodEets about
TINT f-adyisc with him about it3n
~ don't know that d'd' ldon't rcmem'
Will you saY to tho COMMITTEES that sou did
III don't remember. may have iaid tomo-
thing to him about IT, but l ha'e TO recollection
"Do yost know whether or not Judge D!odeett
had any Information about that tnattera"
III have no more information; presume he
there wns sumo surt Of understanding, btlt
whether he knew the particulars don't know"
"1Yhcn did you use Kchm's testmonyr'
"Tle arat time was on tile trial Of Mum, !
"Do you presumo Tint he know It ttena"
"Dn yes. SUPPOSE TO-" .........
"W1'at makes Sou Say you presume that 10
i because lie knew nc used Rehm as VII.
ness; MID March II, the day fixed for tue tria!
OF Rchn, he pleaded guilty to that Indictment
Twas anything sat1 then as to the tcr1ns OH
which lie pleaded Gulltyf
mo, sir; not tint remember"
"Did Judge Dlodgott know at the time Of the
Muan trtn' the particulars OF the arrangement
with Kchsnf'
"Will you state to thu Committee that ho
didn't know what tlhe particulars weref'
II couldn't say what might have been COM
mun!catcd to him by other eo.'nse1., hare no
"Dil you, a. QUO of the Government counsel,
Or III connection with the others, confer With
were pending In bis Court In these whisky
cascaM
'tTIow do ron n,ean--eonierf" ....
"Confcr with hin, us ~ The arrangement you
were TO nuke With the parties"
"No, sEr.h
sSeyrr dill" .---.
entity Of the Court"
"iiow many were indicted from arst to
ii couldn't tcll.''
"Sercnty-1ve or moref'
"1here. Was largo number-1 don't re-
member"
Il don't know; very large number verc
!" lEov many went 10 jaill"
"That IL moro than know"
"Did the number exceed q dozcn1" ...
tell"
We're you present In court Oh the trta, Of
Dan Munn}"
| Yes. sir"
add ynu hear Jacob Kehm swcs- that tfcro
Ind been ITO immunity Uf any character luaue
between him aud tho t;oycrnment cbunscli''
"ls It your recollection that be teettael to
tlaf, In snbstarcc!''
1T think be Testified That ho had made no ar-
is, Of s; ses x ,t,ts @sfsa; II!
l.chtn personally; tbs arrangement was made
through hts cut1nael." ........
"nv y9u not remember that Mr; Nchm sworo
| ranEamcnt. directly or Indirectly, with hlm or
hls counsclf'
II wouldn't undertakes to ssy what he swoso
Mr. t}oudy-we ara not trying Rehm. !,
Col. Cooicr-Do you not remember Tint
Jud9o B!odgett stopped Col. Ingersoil In hts
r4 una o nun snt he s0n n0t n
nifty between tho Government and Rehml
Il hive no recollection of III"
"Wt!l rou say that Wus not Gaidl'
"Do You not remember In the Rocllc.runkcr
cnRa that Col. lngersoll argued to tic Jury for
tic purposc Of breaking tic force OF she testl-
mon5 of some of tho first batch.' thut there
hail bcen MI arrangement Or agreement for i'm
muni.y, and Judge Dlodgctt Insisted that bu
should not argue that question; thut tie record
wRs barred On thata"
~ have no recollection at it.''
"Wtlt you say that he did not1"
~ Wilt not"
allow many Interviews did you hare With A.
c. Ifcstngt"
II don't remember OF out ons interview
| ri hn ,1pAarfnnk n NJ ne our ~
hts knowledge af tbs whisky operations, liz
catnc to Judge Dangs' o!Ilce more than once j
| couldn't say how mauy ttmcs,n
.Dd YOU hare any fnteryfswa with hin Al.
torney-Col jueatenl''
"ies.n
untl ynu ptye him IN rroo-.,,,1 ,,,,t I,
T1..intr cn,,ln .riyn fi,n Cnvarnma ant u'Iunhi. ~
iarmofon Sl,, rrfcr.ncc ~ n.nct r.a aa.*ote ~
connertcd win thn whisky cHn:orscrM usous ps''1
III ran nssure YOU We nevrr mn'fo ,nv nvor
turcs wbutcyrr Ia Mr. Hrsin,, ~ ri. r1rn."i
;n i,. contrary. Tiers IN. ster.nirs,iu,, @ a.
Lar ~ krrw m fhn nart ~ H.. E' Enwa.nn' .,
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