The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1879-12-04

Indas s apofrori knew me A. that long before,
Senator HllI-But Phillips has testified tina
that he did Introduce You In that manner.
Well he might have done IT. Tho second In
tervlew / held with Judge spofford was OF
June Inst and the last y, interview ta was on Jun
ed testimony which was NOT true.
was present when ,Johnson and aone'
be sworn %. ] nm not certain that jones' u pf
fliavit was read 70 him. knew the afIllaviif
Ind received money from Gov. Neogg. Thoi
told mo that they bad not received ANY monov
but, neverthel.ss offered them money 70 nakt
Judge saofYord told me that 10 would 60
80 90 buck pay. which ho dn ~ want ~, wh5nl
would gtvp them positions III the Custom
House. told Thorn that they were 10 get s2a1t
apiece. divided M Vie ooo myself.
eotor Of tho Port mud he woui mako Jones
Custom House Innitor., ! have eeen by nc
papers bat jones testified Yesterday tint b
him some: ofterei him 10000.
Judge Phillips md ! were acting Ia accord y.
money never represented myself TO be Il
Democrat Ia my life Phillips did not intro
lueo M" ~ Judge spotIord as . Democrat lie
| Kellogg informed Of what / was doisg. Phil
lips might have done Il; Murray, told mo be
thu from whit ~ told 70 mo that ND not
think hls aHilavlt would do any good. ! did
| not understand that Judge SpOiford wanted
aEidavits from anybody but members of the
Legislature / did not understand that he
/ wanted ntttdapitR from outaide parties like
/ Murray. told Mr. Oavanac i{5at Murray knew
nothing
| have never talked 70 Gov. Kellogg o. my
body else about my testimony. | mover aatd
~ anybody ut any time that | was
GoINa BACK on sroFFaRD
and was going to make II hot for him.
! told Jadge, spoGord That could get cyl.
donoe TINT Kellogg was elected Ivy bribery. |
| thought ] could get uffidayia but could not
Fay whether Expected To get true or false aiF
| davits. was not Responsible for what the afii-
dnylls were.
| The wstneHses wanted to 40 to Washington.
/ but did not understand that they intsndsd to
| 60 back on their af1davlIa | am not very much
surprised TINT they did IT, for they wore gone
| back on about tho 5000.
| | made tho boys understand that they we're to
get $1,000 and that they would get $1,000 out of
| ths back pay | waa deceived because did not
got the money prom sed mo. ard nnntenton-
ally deceived Tho boys. | was 10 go 10 Wash
ington and get tho aamo pay as q memher and
/ waE tn not tfsv Fl avery dny IN which was on
gagged in tho case, md was 70 got y bonus.
had nothing to DC With the wltnees.e about
ness was 10 get tho afIiavs.
Isenator Hill endeavoredto get the witness to
sny whether or not no expected TO be paid oven
vita. but Witness ovaded tho question and got
generally mixed and canfqsed.
| might have told Mr.. Walkor that II Ind
gone to Washington the Witnesses would have
stood no to their nflldRvita. They expected to
make money out OF u ! cannot say that thoy
no money | think If j had gone to Washing
ton that tho witnesses would have testified 40
cording 10 tbeir affidavIts. The, contract would
have been carried out. | called on Mr. Walker
In reference to this case NIB mt three weeks ny
Mr. Walker did SOW that Phillips and woro
THE MOST uNNIT1aATHD DAMNED sGoUsDRELs
In tho State OF Louisiana. and he wanted moth
ing to do with U.S. Thnt T. the way he got out
OF paying mo tho money TINT Judge SpoTord
owed me. wont to Judge Bpoffor3 and asked
him Tor tho money. and ~ sent me to Mi
Walker. He told mo TINT Mr.. Walker had NIL
his business In charge. told Mr. Walker that
his opinion was based on aewapaper talk that
dened any man to toll whore had over told II
fnlsehood or done anything wrong. He told mo
that he himself believed that was pretty
good man, but that the public opinion Of mo
y r. senator Vance It was rumored that tho
members OF the Legislature had been bribed
for voting for kellogg. had In my mind De-
davts Of bribery. Thought | could use Thorn |
b,ter than the others bsoause they wanted to |
go home. told them that they might 20 homo
rs III induaement 10 get them TO make he aiIl- /
dayit. Carroll Johnson ! think lives IN tho |
tenth ward. HI is asmall man. with side whis-
keers and black hair. 90 not know tho color OF
TO Senator Cameron--I got $50 from Mr.. Spot
ford. He gave mo $40 on Juno and 500 on
June2.
Witness here introduced n number Of papers
eeFtlfyirg that he had affiliated with and ron.
was. therefore. entitled to employment 81 ap-
pointment. The different papers were signed
by Philip Powers. Lonts Bush. Frank McGoin,
others.
One paper slenod by Frank McGoin. certi-
fed that Ward had run great personal danger,
from both Democrats and Republicans. In
rendering services to the Democratic purity.
Senator Hill suggested that Senator Cameron
papers. and that was To show that the Demo
cratic party was not entitled to credit because
It 50. 4om Z e, , e IN n kepubieans
Democrat. and never had protested to be one.
ADoLpH lie NEE SWORN.
TO Senator Hull am lawyer by profession.
know Ward md Phillips. They ave mold very
ow In public estimation. aud / do not think
hey would be- believed on oath
Oh tho eross-eXamlnatt0n by Senator Came
ION witness said that he had known Ward since
1871: knew Phillips about three months prior
q isii. Gould name persons who had tea fled
hat they would not believe Ward on oath but
preferred not to do H.
Il II FLOWERS tcoLoREDl SWORN.
To Senator CamoIon-l reside In this city. |
came here from Grant parish in 1876. | have
known Phillips since 1871, lhave boon engaged
N getting evidence In this case Ny first ap-
IL It was through Tom Murray. .fe
'ome witness. He said TINT Hebert had been
asking 10 him. but that he could not believe ,
lawrence Hebert. but would take what | would [
,ay / told him would take him to see Mr.. /
Javanac. aud went and saw MIR. Cayanac, and !
le told me to bring Mu ray to him. | was to
u, !
{. but hy some ioeus poc'tS Mr. Cayanac did not
go him that day and It was the next day the
lrst day Of May. that he saw Murray. Mr. {
frank MeGIoin wrote ont the affidavit and
Murray swore to 1t before justice OF the peace I
had something to do with the Watson at1. '
avt., Capt; Flood told me- that Watson had |
lready made an affidavit. | thought that any
way | had better see about It, and | went to Mr.. I
Iavanae. and ne said certainly to get the affi-
he affidavit [ heard Of Johnson's affidavit :
Ward aid Phillips both told me to be sure and :
fer the witnesses $4,000. | asked Mr.. Cavanac {
'hat sum was to got. Judge Spofford told me t
n the lrst Of June, In his own house. that he y
ould not subpoena mo to Washington but he '
Gould pay me the same amount received by the
illnesses for mileage and per diem and Wouid
ay NE for one month extra. ]
Witness then went on. and with considerable
told that on the day the wit
esses iafi this city for Washington he had seen
lr. Spotford give Mr.. Cavanae an envelope full 3
t money, and had seen him give both Ward
nd Phillips $50, and that de Lacey. Johnson.
evegns and Murray had all told him that they
ad secured s25 apiece to pay their expenses 10
'ashington;; All the parties named were At
sked Mr.. Spufford for his pay and NJ Spof-