New-York tribune., 1879-04-10

before IL was preseDtedi At was read To me py BIT
oDFor what purpose Ale wished TO get ny
| Judgment as 10 whether II was III accoru""oo WIN
nyan lad nothing to DO with drafting it, A-No
| O. Did Won make any suggestionsl A.-No sir.
6-Were you present at any OF the meetings OF the
| conmltteei A.-No, sir. ,...,. ,0osons
for writing the article The Pesbyeridn the witness
said that he learned the facts about thr laDerha.' M
Tho me way tnat he obtained the greater part OF ms
Information. lie declined to name the persons Houi
| whom be- got the informntion. , .s n
Odd YOU mean to say that the plan phrsueu Was
dis gnised pew-rcntal system A.-fes. ,o.,
Odd you inquire OF DR.. Talmage or oil the nelnDers
OF Inc session or the Board Of Trustees A-No, sir
Q.-Then you took u runOrf A-No; h"u Po'''''
| information.
THE TRUTH NO INJURY TO ANYONE.
Odd YOU not think your statements calculated TO
njure the Tabernaclei A.-No. sir; the truth never III
| jures anybody.
o.-To iniure Its reputation ANot Its just repuia-
| ton.
o-What would you think OF such statements about
vonr own churchf Al should have objection II the
statements were true
oAre there not some truths which had better not be
| knownl A-Not about churches The truth ABOUT
OHDo YOU think that this whole difficulty grew out
arcle Al am not greparSa 10 way. Sy Rotten
snsiug concerns Al have no recoecton OF saIlng IT,
O-Did Won not say that the church was swanpcd d,
indebtedness and would have 10 Dc soi a auction y
Al have recollection OF It, but can't swear u
6Dia Won not say 10 a member OF this Presbytery
tnst Dr. Talmagc a buiioon : Al don't remember
01IS oEDd YOU not say iSat Dr. Tamaec not lt to
he in the Peshytetan c9nIoh' ond haYs ,nSs ne ne
Sus1 to be Of got m.nS out this G nnae My % Spno
was that he had not the qualifications OF Pfr'byefah
minister, and that he was not N sympaony Wiz WIZ, eur
he ought got ont OF IT. may have said that he
After further questions Mr. MIIlard INQUIRED II Mr.
Talmage had said that Mr. Hathaway had abused MS
position etc. would he not have been Justified IN say
The Rev. Mr.. Foote-I must object to this.
The Rev. Mr.. JOncs-The question Is purely snppo-
sitious It Is an insinuatng aud certainly dishonest
| way Of putting the question.
Mr.. Milard fwarmy-This is certainly discourteous
remark stand here my rights as counsel 10 Insist
| that 1t must be withdrawn.
Nc. Jonps-T withdraw H.
1uestiOus To Mr.. McCuagh, DR.. Van Dyke slid that
lie never suggested or advised Mr Ctosoy 20 prrS o
| 10y Mr.. Hathaway the witness was dismissed.
MR.. CRosBY's TESTIMONY.
The next witness was the Rev Arthur Crosby, chair
man OF the Prosecuting Committee. He testified that
until the time W hen he called Mr. Tamage's attention
TO the rumors about him. his relations to that clergyman
we're very pleasant. After some objections to this
iue OF testimony Dr. Spear the witness was allowed
proceed 1t having been explained that his testimony
related to the seventh specification. which charges Mr
Talmaee with announcing from his pulpit that he was
TO be tried for heresy when he knew that charges OF
Il
MrCrosby testified: year day went TO ameetng
OF the Presbyirry the Tabernacle Dr. Talmage met
me the aisle and invited me TO have conversation
with him. He said that he had heard that was gong
To bring up the Morgan affair. said that proposed 70
offer resolution requesting the Presbytery 10 appoint u
| committee TO confer with him in regard 20
the rumors which ahOat 10 his discredit Tie OBJ
Iected strongly this action. | sad that considered
il of great Importance 10 the welfare Of the cuich ana
the honor OF the Presbytery. Finally he said: II you
will let the matter drop | viii meet you
and one or two other members Of the Pres
bytcry and explain the whole matter so that the
most prejudccd person will be satisfied" remember
mat he mentioned Dr. Wells aud Dr. Van Dyke Al ast
let the matter drop, ana said that would consider MS
proposition.
OF The Prcsbytery toward him Ayes; he SAID there
was "a good Gcal Oi feeling against him. ana that many
members Of the Presbytery would be only TOO
delighted 10 see the Tabernacle submerged.
on the following Monday wrote him letter declining
his proposition, as | wished public yindicauOn. |
said thai wished he could his way clear TO adopt
the proposed. The next day or the
dav after, DR.. Talmage and Major COrwn
called on me. DR.. Talmage demanded the
names OF the persons who had privately spoken
against his yeracy and also the names Of those TO
whom had repeated the SANDERS / declined 10 give
hlm any names. He gave me u paper, signed by him,
making this demand.
This paper aud the letter referred TO by the witness
were put III evidence ana then the court adjourned.