New-York tribune., 1879-08-30
THE TESTIMONY IN DETAIL.

dgatOu resumed this morning Previous togoint y"
with Mr.. Vanderbfs testimony, Mr. serne asked II MI
Jewett had been 0ble to verify the cable dispatches
In reference to the Vanderbilt settlement Mr.. Jewett
Thought an answer TO telegram for the production OF
the stub from Ere office would be received during the
day.
Mr. Vanderbilt testified IN regard to the agreemen0 OF
March. 1872 between the railroads, producers and oil
redners outside OF the Standard that the rates shoud
be impartial under the same circumstances He deemed
that in force bpt he claimed that the crcum
stances we're different nov, "We may carry OUT the
witness said the Standards construction OF the agree
ment In our action, but not in principle" he atrlo-
rtd the Standards monopoly not alone TO the capital
handled by that company but TO the sharpness OF tue
men composing the company. The oil transportation
Is lost 10 the railroad He thought If the STANDARD
Company had monopy of the oil claimed they would
control Its price he did not mean to let them conpe
him TO carry oil at a price which would net pay SIMPLY
INT down by legislation He did not think the West
had many railroads; there might be 700 many run
p1hg mink "ei' pSS sne oO Ne%Yo % Central had sufficient
terminal facilities at New1orS could carry lOu uEs
as much it could do great deal more pave GOV loli
ing stock enough and TO 'cr the ordinary business
bnt the increased business comes al az once aI one
period of the year. and railroad could AFFORD 10 nave
an equipment TO accommodate the tramc w @ tle
heavy season; in all his railroad experience
never saw railroad able to DO the business called for at
certain periods had seen three times as much Helgnt
,rces were pr svaing, the low prices were satisfy
public clsmor for themj we ought to get muen more
in New-York for facilities, and are now spen6a-
aug large sumsi do not receive any oehene s
for these expenditures; think railroads have done
their share toward the commercial prosperity OF
the City and state OF New-Yorki 1t would hnrt ht
New-York City IL were 10 carry there 1or the
same pnoe we carry TO Bs timore; 1t is
mistake suppose that New-York Central has soVsn
tages oyer rival roads; The management Ol rival ROADS
is more eXpensye they get good local rates ana 90
better paying business than do; these rival r0ads
own All the railroads canals their routes, and II
they not get good rates. 1t ID the own auii thtre
ere railroad companies forming parts OF our line who
were in the habit of farming out cars he bad broken
81 mp; Thought the railroads were enutied 10
protection BY law the same nonmoDetary INTERESTS
thought capital much entitled TO protection as any
other interest il in favor OF law TO punish railroads
for gong above below certain rates TO I've hxed py
the General Government cooperating with individuals
and State Governments the state LEGISLATURES can naui
railroads up at any time fOr lnIrlnRements Oh e lsm
be thought n Governments would interfere vita shOe
maker merchant IN the conduct OF ms business Me
business he thought corporations should nave the same
rights as individuals
MI. Vanderbilt was questioned as 20 the increase of
the funded debt etc His knowledge the subject was
uncertain, and no information Of importance was
ELECTED After this subject exhausted, Mr. Wander
b said Just been suggested TO me that you are
trying find whether or not We are going to de-
Mr. Vanderbilt testified that the through PASSENGER
c is subject to the payment OF commissioner 81 is
Ar serne questioned NJ Vanderbilt as to the $4,000
charged to teasurers contingencies, winch Mr. Norces
ter had testified paid Out for legislative expenses IN
MIR Vanderbilt stated that he knew nothing about any
such account ana old know whether there was such
an account IN the New-York Central and Hudson River
Mr.. vanderbilt on retiring from the stand, thanked
tue committee for tho consideration shown by them
duIlRg bis examination
Mr.. PATTERsoN's TESTIMONY.
Mr. E. G. Patterson next took the stand. Had been
engaged IN the production of petroleum for ten years
was IN no business Witness described the petro-
eun belt which is fifty miles in length and ten miles
gide and said the territory is constantly shifting The
production at the present time is much larger than
b.for nd tha
Increasedi the geographical development does not
affect the railroads The pipe lines convey Oil to the
roads without regard the locality Of the develop
ment He explained the progress made in facilities for
Transporting from the wells 10 the roads In 1871 and
1872 the oil trade began to be paral zcd ana IumOTs
were afoat OF a combination between the trunk lines
and certain producers against the Interests OF genera
production Mass meetings were ned by The producers,
and a committee OF which witness was member, was
appointed 10 Vlslt the presldtnts OF Tue tuh nes hu
ineut Company the name Of the combination.
The contract between the South Improvement Com
pauy and the various railroads was mere produced iGen
tined by witness and put III evidence.
Witness resumed: Ibln agreement was subsequently
abrogated and witness knew that ne parties % IL were
getting lower rates. Later, in 1874 the "Rutter CIR
evidenced The circular was known as the - Crude
Scheme" under Whoh crude on was Transported Tor
rate was charged the refined products from these re-
fner'es to Ntw-York as from the wells-th9s put
which were the property OF the standard Com
hny OH roIffded That sec~et rebate of 22io
cents ueT barrel would be allowed on all oil passing
thTo9b he United Pine Lines TINS drove about 50 per
cent Of the existing pipe lines our Of existence
nine directors Of the UnitoI Pipe Line x we're denti
fed VITA the STANDARD Company. and Que Mr. Wor-
cestcr, of the New-York Central and Hudson River
The net rate to outside shippers in 1873 was 81 449
the rate at the same tine 10 the standard Company
according 10 MI Cassat, prtsldeuJoI OF the Fenbsy
yania Railroad Company was 80 celts. Nj.
Company OF Pittsbmg, and Cleveland, Pratt o. the
Acme OH Company, BOstwlca q Co., Imperial Oh Com
psny OF Oil City, Atlantic Refining Company Of Phia-
delphia, Camden on COMPANY OF maryland ana
the Devoe Manufacturing Company, composed what
is known as the Standard Oh Company Wit
Central and Erie Roads against the Pennsylvania
eoad explained IN the testimony OF MT vanderbilt
wiped Of e-stencs and the facilities OF the Pennsyl
vaDa Road absorbed by The standard MI Patterson
said there was PIPE line known as the American
Transfer Company, owned by BOstvlck, OF The STANDARD
Company. Tbs line transferred 10 the United Pipe
laues II generally understood that the New-York
Central owns One-tbrd Oi the standard OIL Company
stock and II Is also understood hat the American
Transfer Company was part OF the Standard OIL Com
As to NJ Jewetts testimony that he permitted some
9ne e did no remember whol TO SINK well In the road
bed OF the Gre Branch running INTO the OIL regions,
Com pany and that company claims the right TO sink
wells along the whole line Of the branch road. They
have sunk 200 wells, draining adjoining land. He
thOughi the Tide water line trcferred to IN former
testimony would not have 9ee9 built ~ railroads had
bceut for al demands at the time the plpe line WAS
built. On NJ Pate;sOn's crOss-2xaminaiOn by Messrs.
shpman aud Blanchard he asserted that be not
lawyer although up 70 last April he ba1 charge OF the
legal proceedings Instituted by OIL men III Pennsylvania
against the corporations named
Mr.. DUTCHER TESTIFIES.
Mr. butcher next called aud testified that he had
never IN the cattle trade any extent but
had been identified with 1t 1868; that he is a
director Of the Harlem Railroad and employe the
Eew-York Central and has charge Of the live stock
traffic Of the NewYOfk Central and Harlem Railroads
with salary OF $4,000 year. His duty to look
after live stock traffic OF the read and lie Is the
general superintendent Of the Union Stock Yards at
Buffalo and Albany that he Is president Of the Union
Stock Yard Company, and has received salary such
president during tie last year. thought the stock YARD
Company organized in 1873, aud that the man