, 1879-01-12
PRESIDENT HAYES.
He Talks with Newspaper-Man
On Various Topics.
" The Best Thing to Do With the South Il to
Let It Alone" The Coming lssut
Between Greenhaeks and a.
tiouaI.Dank Notes.

Said 7: "Mr. President, do you mediate
mnking another Journey into the South during
your Administrator or during apy portion of
the pending winter and spring?"
!: have not thought Of lt,' said the Presi-
dent. Why should I? You know that did
make rather extensive journey soon after my
INAUGURATION. I went from Cincinnati ana
louisville to Georgia, and made another visit to
Rirhn,oud.''
"From some things that I have recently
heard, Mr.. President, it occurred to nae that if
You we're to 20 to Georgia and other Southern
States 1t might be the means of awakening Il
feeling that, T ain told, is symptomatc Of in
subordination in The Democratic ranks.n
IL rather entertain the view" said the Presi-
dent. s.that the best thing to do with the South
is to
LET IT ALONE.
I don't think the course Of an improved feel
ing is to be assisted by too much outside inter-
ference. They have had enough foreign prod
ding. am entirely aware that dlscord prevails
in the ranks OF the Democratic party there,
as It very naturally might do. While Will
not venture to predict how long it will
tnke for a respectable division to occur
come about. They may not divide during my
Administration, but the South has thinking,
intcnentlcut neoplc, like any other section t
hear, as you do, that they are not wholly satis-
fed with their condition, nor con.ented with
their apart aud segregated relation with the
rest OF their fcllow-citiAcns.'
/ then showed the President letter from a
distinguished person in the State Of South
Carolina to a gentleman OF prominence III an
adjoining State, using the following language
about tue last State election: "Sothing in
elections can ever hcreaitcr unite more
cheating, rascaity, and folly than our
n,auagipg men hoyo accom- plishcd in our 1ate
ELECTION. They have disgraccd us before the
whole country, and loaded the party with the
burden Of their in1a!ny; ana , the folly OF 1t al
The State Executive anu Legislature were sure
without it. have seen no statements Of the
frauds which are exaggerated They were
SIMPLY FRlGuTFUL.
The Ne1ns antl Courier at last yesterday dec.
24) NOTICED Ior the first time the Northern press
on the frauds. What would like better than
anythioe would be for Butter to attack me or
give me fair chance at Kim. don't think he
Would find the same success he had with Daw-
son. When Dawson published the truth
about & the aau9nrg bur n1ma; assasrs =, B9t'st s
tuercs TINT the Ne,ry' report was tissue
of lies. whereupon the valiant Dawson subsidized
and at once licked But}cr's hand, aud there has
been love and peace among them ever Since
The writer of this letter, as the President knew,
United States Senate from South Carolina, and
was not admitted. There was substituted
for him q Republican Senator {Sawycr).
found the President perfectly we'll
informed about the matter Of this let
ter and aSo % nee rs ee tee1es snsa
bell, Of Charleston. lie acted with the Demo-
Gratis until they passed a law, or had law in-
terpretcd, SO as to make the black voters 60
thirty and forty mites to an election-pol, when
Judge Campbell denounced that act as not in
keeping with the terms Of the surrender. Hc
vas then regarded as an enemy, and has ever
SINCE been an independent man. l look to time
as the great medicine tor the South. l atn OF
the absolute belief that the American people,
in every section, are to ....
BEcOME THOROUGHLY HoMOGEEEOUs,
equally protected e7erywhcre in all their rights,
and with equal habits and enlightenment -
t'Alr. President, how do you account for the
remarkable development Of individual charac-
ter in the State Of Ohio during the last twenty
year:''
President. II think that arose in part from our
position. We stood across that perpetual cur
rent Of emigration to the y Hest from tue states
Of New England. New York, New Jersey, aud
Pennsylvania. We were constantly refreshed
with new blood, and the cmigrants were men OF
bold spirit. ardent to improve their futures,
Another great education for Ohio was the
practice of public speaking from Ihe stump
in all election contests 1t was introduced
into Ohio by the Virginia element, which
our candidates fur Goyeznor, congressman, and
even local positions had to be ready to explain
themselves, advance their views, and discuss
with an opponent. The consequence was that
every man III public position had to get over
his backwardness aud shyness, and present MIN
self boldly, and learn to reason of hand. do
not know TT as good system OF education as
lbat~ From Ohio this system has extended cast
ward into New York and PENNSYLVANIA. we
have, however, the fullest benefit Of sucl public
discussion. The consequence is,
sDo you regard Garfield as one OF the best
products Of the popular speaking system!"
Il think it would bc very hard in any part Of
this country" said the President, ITO match
Garfield as versatile, IT. thoughttnh haorH ready
altogether matter Of temperament. 1t
grew by habit and frequent oppor-
tunity until TINT gentleman can stand
his feet and reason with precision, and entertain
a large body Of men and women anywhere
''ir. President, wnich OF the public speakers
OF Ohio influenced you and men OF your age
more than any otherss"
..Tbonas Ewing and Thomas CorwiD. They
we're the greatest speakers that l heard IN my
yo lth. Corwn was model for hunlor and
playfulness, to bring people Up to feeling OF
good-natnred receptlyeness. I-nr. Ewlne "as 81
probably the better reasoner OF the two. tie
used set Of stately phrases at the opening ana
conclusion of his discourse. l remember that
one Of them was: ladies and gentlemen,
see before me tonight sea OF handsome taces
aud an ocean Of intclgcnce.''
ssDo you apprenenu that Ohio will continue
to hold her place as the mDst pIomlpent pollt-
ival State in the Wcst"
IL 1CAS'r SAT- THAT,''
said tile President. s4Thcrc is another Ohio be-
yond It's settled bv our young men, WHO consti-
tutc large elcurent III Illinois and other States
It inay be that We shall lose that sceptre that
we have in measure kept for some years. 1t
may 20 West. do not observe, however, any
falling OF in public spirit and the manhood aud
stature Of the people OF Ohio"
s'Wl.icn city or settlement IN the State has had
Inc most Influence on the general body Of the
people OF Ohio?'' i
9.Cinciunati altogether. There is union Of
aces in Cincinnati which has produced the
most excellent social aud intellectual results"
IL suppose YOU consider Gen. Grant an Ohio
oroducts'
t4Decded1y so," said President HAYES. "He
S a native Of our State, born in one OF our
southern counties, and sent to West Point BY an
"Wnc,i did you first meet terPzcsidentG Grant,
Mr.. Hayes?"
;sSoon after the close Of the War. met him
N various occasions at home aud elsewhere.
Dur relations have ..........
NEVER BEEN OTHER THAN AGREEABLE" /
stHow do you regard that portion Of your life |
pent in the Rebellion as i soldicr?"
II have said on more than one OCCASION" an-
wcred the President, Athat it was the best and !
,appiest portion OF my llle." .,