The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-09
AIRS. nxsA3r ARGUING HER OWN CASE
sho Obtales nrera che Master OF the ROilS me
Right OF Access 60 her OhiIdres.

Right oe A ccess 60 her Chiidros.
Har ne LopdO- TELEGRAPH
Tho oaseof Besant agt. Wood camo up be-
pnni I ISs Row Flank Bcs UP 'S sacaa TO
have the trusts OF q dced OF srparal0n Giween
execution under tho direction Of the Court and
PRAYING an iDjunction 10 restrain tho dgIendant
fr1n wo d r. OR an9oghnG Ih@ p,ainlm
between the partice WIS OF course the cOntiup-
nnro OF the inlpnrtiou which lnl been alrenly
Mrs. Brsant (who appeared in pcrsenk inter
rupHng- That In not correct. Your Lnrdship
merely made I'm interim order in tho matter an
The Master OF the Rolls-Do yOu appear In
person again. Mrs. B0santf
Mrs. Hesant-l do, my Lord.
Thr Mnster Of the Holls-Whata pity n 10 you
[ do nod instruct counsel to appear ior YOU.
Mrs. Dcsant-Uniorunatoly NV Lord. have
not tho means to engage counsel OF hrst-rnie
cmincncr, and ms | hqya already boen able
bnrristers. think shall do better to conduct
Tho Muster of the Rolls--You may think 40
but II you arc unsuccessful again you VIII only
hnye yourself TO blame. You nave not been so
successful think. that you should be anxious
Tho Mister Of tho Rolls 20 MIR. Incci-Is It not
posSiblp for these parties IN como " some hr.
rangcmcnt without thiJ constnnt qunrrcllingp
Cannot the defendant have reasonable access TO
the childrcn2
Mr.. Inco-T offered lat on the hearing OF tho
Mrs. Bosant-Dut shere was nothing Of tho
| sort said in the orday-it was carefully Kept out
| Of IT, do not doay that the learned counsel
reioined ccrtainlI.' when your Lordshp sug-
g'sted that reaso cable access should TO gwen.
| but no provision xas made for II IN the order.
The Master Of tho Rolls-I stipulated that You
| should have access to the children. and II you
had applied to G.se you should have had II.
| Mr. lncD-Ot course the Indy ought to have
secn them undF'r proper terms soaS not to have
The MastsF Of the R,ls-As !. have already
said. there n no rcnsOn why the dctcndAnt
| should noA have access 10 her children. and
nm certatsly astonished 10 find it has been re-
| fused.
Mr. Inco said the dificulty was that tho lady
! would not bo advised professionally Tho order
| asked hnd been simply that tho child might be
| taken away from her with such access as the
| Cougl might think proper. There the matter
WA left by Mrs Brsant.
oUn letters. which | have IN court. show not
onlY that 1 have been refused access but that
| tncy hi,ya rrfusei TO tell ms whore tho children
| were or where they were baing educated WIS
told had no business 10 know A., -.
The Master Of the Rolls-Why did you not
| apply to- me for an or1rr2
Mrs. Besant lsomcwhat warmlyl-BocaBsc tho
terms OF your Lordship's Judgment Were SO in
sulting to mo that did not desire To- come into
contact with your LOr lship again,
Tho Muster Of tho Rols-ThM as not tue way
70 address Juugo IN court Mheh yyn get ON
OF court you may abuse mo 10 ny extent you
think proper; but in court YOU must please not
forget the respcct which Is due to the bench.
Mr.. Inro-I really hardly know how the mat
ter stands. Your Lor,lship will understand the
di1cuty Of tho position. Tho plaintiff is a
Ths Master OF tho Rolls-It is n worry painful
cnse: but. IA | understand. Mrs. Bcsant only
wants now what Is reasonable. VIZ. access to
Mrs Dcsant-wln your Lordshlp allow mo 10
stnte what destroy Since May y haye nevor
been permitted to see my daughter. 70 write t,
Or even to know where she has been kept Every
kind bf information has been refused mo. nc.
companied 10y expressions OF Insult. When
appl ed TO see my son. In accordnnc, with tho
| terms OF the decd. WAS refused. have since
received a note telling me tho children ARE welt
which is not true. becuusa | know my daughter
! Mabel Is III. | now desire that your LOrdShiI
should grant an order which would prevent u,
necessity OF my going to the Divorce Court by
n rrreut decree Of Sir James Hammer It appears
that for the breaches OF the decd by the plaintiff
| should b. entitled TO Hn order. proposed "a
20 to the Divorce Court for u divorce or Iudicia
separation. but should gladly avoid t.
Tho Master OF the Rolls said that point was
not RAISED IN the suit at all
Mr. lnce would be glad II some reasonable ar
rangemcnt could be- made. Tho injunction
however you'll not prevent the lady brngin'
The Master o. the Rolls-You do not object t,
divorce or judicial scpnration2
, MIR. lncc thought 1t would 10 right that on
. The Muster Of tho Rolls-wen l have powc
TO grant u decree for judicial separation " tn
! lady wishes for II and tho necessary amend
ment Is made in tho counter claim.
Mr.. lncc would strongly advise his client
} agree.
The Master o. the Rolls said thero could thel
De- 10 inTtntf nlUeufy
Mrs. Bssant-l certainly have no wish to dra
out the unhappy story in tho Divorce Court.
The Master OF the Rol- IL cannot be- d.sr
able for other you. your husband. or your emu
dren that more scandal should be riskcd thai
cun be avoided.
Mrs. Bosant-I offered my compromise bo
fora your Loriship before but II | succeed II
that ! shall gain my freedom, OF course.
must hive reasonable access to tho childrcn2
The Master OF the EO!ls-Ol course.
Mr.. Incc had not tho slightest objection. MI
Brsant had only been afraid that all sorts oi Iii
. CATION We're about To commence.
Tho Master OF thu Rolls-No; II will begin an
J | end there. with an ordinary decree for Iudiciu
I separation. neither more nor less.
, Mrs Br-un, Would that dis pose OF tho apDeG
! and cVrrythngY
Tho Master OF the Rolls-I did not know Their
was an appeal pending.
Mrs B'snnt said sh' had arnli"d - ~" ~
Jusrccs IN ~ mn't"r, and t was not by he
own desire SHE had again appeared before hi
. I Inrtship. "
, Tho Master Of the Rolls-You have certainl
not come Toy mrn.
Mrs. Besant-llad tho plaintiff kept his word
Ike any ordinarily honest man. | should no
nave been Obliged to como again before you
lnrIship.
Tho Master n the Rolls-Thcn between no,
and Thursday next you will amend your coun
tor claim. 10y asking for a judicial separation
and II You cannot como To terms about access 1
the children. must make an order.