The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-03-22

with the inquiry in few Of the States. and the in
quiry could be made to the others when needed
Mr.. EpMUSps. of vermont-What committee?
Mr.. WALLAcE-The committee CONSTITUTED 10 IN
quire into frauds at the recent elections.
Mr.. EDMUNDs-The committee Is authorized TO SEND
for persons and papers without the Intervention OF
Mr. WALLACE said the committee had been in ses-
sion three months; had obtained all the information
it needed; had concluded its labors, and made its
report one OF the branches of the inquiry The
proposition of the Senator from New YORK was the
phase of new inquiry. Although the committee
might apply the Secretary OF the Treasury for the
information named in the resolution there certainly
nothing improper in calling for it in this way.
The Senate Should assent to whatever would give
light to the country, and if member of the COM
mittee sought to obtain it in this way Their" should
be no objection
Mr.. CoNKIING held that the Senator from Pennsyl-
vana asked for this information for special COM
mittee while he MIR. conkling asked for intorina.
all the people of the country. who were looking on
with jrstifable curiosity. He hunbly asked that
the information should be full and explicit that the
Senate and tho country might know the whole truth
Mr.. BAYARp, (dem. of Del, briefly supported the
resolution saying the facts showed that there had
been interference by the federal agents in State cleo
TONS and he thought that nothing should be done to
delay the furnishing Of the information.
Mr.. BECK, (dem.) OF KY, opposed Mr.. Conkling's
amendment ON the ground that it would delay the
investigation for perhaps sixty days
plants A. had been made did not apply to all the
States. He ventured to say there were not ten or
eight States which could be named in that con-
necton. There were certainly none in Maine and
Vermont, nor in Michigan Wisconsin. Kansas. Min
nesota and Nebraska. nor California Would the
Senators say that IL such general information were
asked for it would imply that marshas and their
deputies used in the rural portions of the coun
try as well as in large boisterous centres where
there rowdysm and corrupt practices which
must be kept in check? The Senate and the country
ought to have the information called for by the
amendment
Mr.. BECK, of Kentucky. repeated that whatever
might be the purpose of the amendment its adop-
ton would delay the investigation. Let the Senator
NeW
a separate resolution, which could be passed ii no
one on the republican side objected.
Mr.. CONKLINa, of New York, replied saying, among
other things, that he understood it would not re.
quire more than forty-eight hours to prepare and
furnish all the information called for by his amend
ment 1t would not. therefore do to object to it on
the ground OF delay.
the information can be furnished in forty-eight
hours simply ask if he has authority for the state
ment II it takes twice as long will vote for his
Mr.. CoNKLING, of New York; say these accounts
in the Treasury Department and can be copied in
forty -eight hours Does the Senator doubt that?
Mr.. MCDONALD, OF Indiana--There is difference
between what is said can be done and what will be
Mr. EAroN, (dem.) Of Conn., doubt it.
Mr. CoNKLING-The Senator from Indiana has
found an adjunct in tho Senator from Connecticut.
is inconceivable that half dozen clerks cannot copy
what is already in books TO doubt is draft on
cred1lity which no man can honor. though the Sen
ator from Pennsylvania is in doubt.
Mr. EATON, OF Connecticut The Senator from New
York says he wants the broadcast light. He shall
have it by my vote, but not now. 1t would take a
longer time than forty-eight hours to furnish the
information the Senator seeks 1t would be fortunate
if it were obtained four times forty-eight hours.
Mr. observation-disclosures the senator think it would
take longer shorter time to give the information
concerning the five States mentioned than all the
residue of the States? IT, the Senator it would
take four times hours does he think that
time would the residue of the States not?
Mr.. EAroN-H it would take ten. fifteen or twenty
clerks forty eight hours four times forty eight
hours. to furnish the information called for by the
resolution IL would require forty clerks TO furnish
therefore. another force Of the department would
| have to be employed.
| The question having being taken Mr.. Conkling's
amendment was disagreed to-yeas q, nays 36-a
Mr. CoNKLING then submitted an amendment in
| the form of separate resolution, namely
in the preceding resolution be likewise TO
deferring to the preceding resolution.
This amendment was accepted there being no OBJ
| lection.
| Mr.. EpMUNDs offered the following:-
Resolved further That report fully all information IN
his touching the question and necessity of suc
4 they made.
| Mr.. WALLACE said that the information ought tc
| be asked of the Attorney General.
| Mr.. EDMUNDs replied that it called for whatever
information was IN possession OF the Secretary o.
| the Treasury.
! or loose rumors in his possession. He hoped tn,
opinion of the Secretary of the Treasury would no
Mr. EDMuNDs replied there was not q line in hi,
amendment calling for an opinion. but for vouch
| ers in the Secretarys Office. which would chow OF
| whose application the money was expended ant
| whether the number of marshsls was too large OF
| too small.
| Mr.. HERMAN, tdem.) of n. Y, said the committee
| ought to be allowed to obtain the information with
out being embarrassed.
| NEWBORN ZEAL.
| Mr. SALISBURY, (dem.) of Del, said the Senators
| had shown a new born zeal on this occasion, but
| when they had control of the Senate there nc
attempt made by them to obtain the information
| He would prefer TO them take the situation
little more cheerfully. We WILL he said, aid them IN
we strike line for action there should be nc
| drawback. 1t should be understood that the demo
Gratis pursue their own line of policy without regard
to consulting the republicans. hope they will be
have like Christian statesman and bear 1t manfully
| Qaughter
| that where there two parties q senator was
| still Senator. he thought that Senator in the
| minority even had the right to submit an amend
ment to q pending measure. He had not known be-
fore that because senator was in the minority
he had right to attempt to correct legislation. He
did not know but by direction of some conclave OF
democracy resolution would be brought in to cor
rect the yea and list by striking of names. The
minority would leave the responsibility where 1t be
longs-to the democratic party. When the Senator
was in the minority he frequently saw him rise Il
submit amendments to pending propositions. and
no objection made by the majority to his right
to do so, the propriety of it depending their merit
| aud not because OF any particular Senator. IL
knew OF no 10 rule changing hu, pfacuGe; I'm.
| rected by and by
Mr.. EpMuNps amendment was rejected by stric
| party vote-yeas *. nays SO.
| Mr.. EpMuNDs offered another resolution. namely =
Resolved further That possible after the In
formation called for by the foregoing resolution shall
furnished he fully all the
sion touching tho question of the necessity for the
| penditurcs.
| This amendment was also rejected-ycas 81. nay.
\ Sea- strict party vote.
| The resolution OF Mr.. Wallace. amended b,
| consent was then agreed 20. esilf sllft sNt
The VICE PRESIDENT, under the provision Of I'll,
| resolution. appointed Senator Booth member o
the Board Of Regents of the Smithsonian Institution
4 TO supply vacancy caused by the expiration o
| senator sargcnts term Of Congressional service.
The Senate went into executive. session at two
O'Clock, and when the doors were opened at twcnt,
| minutes past two O'Clock. adjourned until Monday
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
wAsHISGroN. March 81, 1879.
Mr.. ELLIS. (dcm.) Of Ia. offered a resolution in
crossing the membership of the Committee or, rio.,