The Emporia news. [volume] (Emporia, Kan.) 1859-1881, 1879-02-14

TALLAHASSEE, November %.
10 o. W; Smith, 10 Gramereg Park:
IL mas been suggested from here to the
governor OF Oregon to refrain from issu-
ing certificates in favor of the INELIGIBLE
electors until advised thereon. WhY not
obtain and telegraph him O'Connor's
opinion, See my dispatch.
Q-Have you any knowledge of ite
A.-Have not.
Q-Look over the translation. Have
you any recollection of receiving it?
A.-Have not.
.Q;-1ou have seen the Tribune cipher
disclosures?
Al did at the time they came out.
Odd Smith, your private secretary
show you any of these dispatches?
Ale did not.
Ole must have had a cipher; do you
know if he had?
HI don't.
Q-What do you know of ciphers:
Al know nothing about them.
Q-When Col. Pelton returned from
baltimore, what was the nature of vour
interview with him?
Al said something to him about his
action, and he made no reply. did not
get from him any information about ciph
ers or negotiations until | saw them pub
llshed- did not believe that Pelton had
any power.
QCoWhat was your conversation with
Ed. Casper?
Ale said he had received protfeI
to get the votes of South Carolina fol
money. The substance of the converse
ton was that the votes were for sale.
Odd he mention Col. Pelton's name
at that time?
Ale did not
Q.-When did you next hear of any
corrupt attempt in any state.
Al never heard of any.
Q.-Do you mean to say you never
heard OF any attempt to bribes
A-Not till the publication of the fact
Q-When did you first hear of brib
erys
A.-From Marble. He simply men
toned the circumstances after he had re-
turned from Florida He gave me no de.
tails, and | made no inquiry.
Odd you make any inquiries from
your nephew about these corrupt propo.
sitions to buy and sell?
Al did not.
Q.-TlIen yon had no interest it?
A.-Only an interest in stopping in it.
In reply to a question Tilden said
Pelton had about the first of January
resided at his house.
Q.-Did you make any request to Pei.
ton to cease being secretary for you?
Al did not. 1 manifested NV dis
pleasure, but did not ask him to resign
his position.
Odd you keep confidential rela-
tions with Smith Weed or not?
A.-Not in regard to these transac.
tons; L knew nothing of Weeds pres
ence in South Carolina.
Q.-Did you hear from him of his
proposition to buy votes?
Al did not
Mr.. T1lden answered that he did not
know of the cipher dispatches which
had passed ON the subject, nor of any
negotiations, but he did know that there
had been an offer in South Carolina
which he had put an end to by his in
PREVENTION. l made my statement in &C.
cordance with the truth.
Odd you intend to convey the
idea that you had no knowledge of this
offer?
Al did not intend to convey anv
idea on the subject. | had been advised
by hundreds of people to do one thing
and another, and l did not think #
necessary to refer to the fact of the Bal.
timore transaction in reply to the verv
able and close examination.
MIR. Reed, who conducted this portion
of examination, occasionally requested
Mr.. Tilden to be frank, but failed to get
an admission. Witness did not remem.
Der any conversation at the Third Ma.
tional bank with Smith Weed prior to
the latter's departure for North or South
Carolina.
Hiscock then continued the examina.
ton of Mr.. Tilden.
Q.-YOu learned from Cooper, and
could have learned from Pelton, that
your nephew had been engaged in the
transaction connected with the obtaining
of electoral votes in North and South
Carolina. Did you not fail, when call.
ed upon, to find out Col. Pelton's rela-
ton to the National committee?
Al thought the best way to act in
the matter was to stop it. thought the
same thing in the Florida case.
Q-When the dispatch was received
IN New York saying. you are imperiling
the result here and advising that some
man should be found who could be
trusted for a week, did you ever see the
dispatch9
Al did
Q-You have said if you had had any
idea of influencing these boards, the
only person you would have chosen
would have been Col. Walton. Why did
= +.
Hewitt's attention to this matter lest
Pelton might compromise with the
Democratic general committee?
An the first place, I supposed they
had full knowledge, and would be able
to take care that nothing wrong should
be done. Civil law doesn't recognize
purposes until they are embodied in
actions; the church Furnishes the pur-
pose of criminals even if they are not
carried out. The atmosphere at this
time was full of rumors of fraud.
Odd you not know the informa-
ton?
Witness did not remember receiving
any special information in regard to ex.
penses OF legal proceedings in disputed
Southern States. He knew nothing
about it, but supposed these matters were
under charge of some members of Ma
tional Committee. To some extent he
had been patron of Col. Pelton. His
COCK asked if it did not occur to witness
that he ought to investigate Col. Pelton's
relations to National Committee after he
learned of Pelton's Baltimore transac-
ton. Tilden said he thought the best
way to deal with such a transaction was
to stop 1t, not to do it himself and not to
let anybody else do it. He thought that
such course would have been better in
AollNd lAdu W HAT was uOn0 I0ere. His
cock objected to latter part of this an
swer, and HuntOn said he thought wit
ness ought to be allowed to answer fully.
Hlscock thought so also, but witness
should not go out of the way to attack
other persons. Tilden said when certain
parties set up high standard ofmorality
he proposed to analyZe that standard and
see If they lived to it themselves. Col.
Pelton thought it excusable to fight fire
with fire and adopt tactics of an enemy.
Pelton's act was an inchoate offense act
and on the other side was consummated
and gave the presidency to a man not
elected. He did not attempt to advise
Col. Pelton, and the latter did not up
to the standard of morality. Hiscock
asked what excuse witness had that any
votes or certificates were bought by Re
publicans. Tilden said this evidence
was before the committee in the testimo-
ny of McLinn.
Hiscock-Gov Tilden, are you entire
ly clear that McLinn was influenced in
his action by the hope of office.
Answer swear so to the best of my
recollection. believe I shall be Just to
every one in this examination, and shall
protect myself fully without going into
matters connected with my family rela-
lions.
Hiscock-Had you any information at
that time that the returning board of
South Carolina or Florida was for sale
Give the name of the gentleman who
told you.
Al can't give you the name of any