The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-09


| name Of the gentleman that communicated thai
| fact toyou2 Al stated that ms aconvlction.
o. do not care for tho conviction. I am
| after the nHmc Of the mun that told It 10 yonf
Al cnnn i give YOU tho name Of any man. /
state my l"liei. ana state u upon evidence that
| in my opininn would convict anybody before
common jury.
Q.-Yo1 viii give to mo now the name Of tho
person WHO conveyed that evidence TO your
| inind2 A-rhc evidrnce is public
Q.-Thon you mean TO sny that you have mado
| Tat serious charge against the Returning
Boards upon the strength Of what you slw m
the panrre and learned from public rumur? s.
EVIDENCE brought before your committee
Dwell. you know, Governor. we have al
ready iuunh that we do bot view alike the cyi-
~ into that question now. ] will call your nj.
tcntion ~ the fact that limited YOU by nv
question TO about the time that Pelton visited
baltimore, in refer nee to which you have said
that the air was lull Of rumOrs and you lave
Potion doing ~ he did; Now | ask again for
any evidence you had that those boards wcre
being corrupted ly thg hIubl leans. ouisidethe
rumors you heard ~ the slrees, or insertions
in the newspapers Allie particulars did
ne, cone ioT two, weeks atterwnrd.
Q-Well. said about that time. I will mako
tho question more specific. Up to the time OF
the official announcement Of tho DECISIONS Of
those two boards respectively what, If any in.
formation you had. outside tho newspapers aud
The rumors OF the streets. OF vennity or i'm
proper influence in ARRIVING ct those OCCASIONAL
:, q; tnt,rr1 ptingl-l limited you to the tmc Of
their On "a action. Wenro not nftor any Con.
Al nhY1 no PROOF Up to thnt time;
81 10 not ask for proof, but tho evidence
presented 10 your mind. Had you no evidence
except. what You saw in the newspapers A.
! had uQt, personally.
Glad you any OF anybody, or did you have
ut that tme. and II 50 give US the name Of your
iniqrmnntf A.-The testimony bcfore the
Field Committee discloses tho names.
Q..So all you knew you subsequently, learned
by tho Investigations before the Fold Con-
mittne. Then. sir; as | understand it. at the
time when Col PrltOn went to Baltimore for tho
DitfpDkn OF npurIuR urpIiSttiOu. the
OF the Democrats. from iho Returning loard OF
certificate, 10 Inc Tiid"n electors of tha, H,nlo.
up to that time you had no information. except
rnm9rs and what you saw In The newspapers
Rrpuhlicansi A.-Not up to tho 9Th Of De-
cember.
Q.-so. IN to the 9th Of December you had no
Information Qf the kind other than what have
etntsdY Al do not know that had
Q.-Thcn. IN your mind. you must withdraw
was TaSs"mng his goods from o4 he ,bi ei n os
lighting nrr with iire2 Al did not say that
he was justified; | say he thought he was II
proved. that the other side were taking such
action. did not say that l defended his
Ono. I did not so understand you. bot
understood your answer as an apology. A.
Mr.. niscocR-Can 1t which you plense.
Gov Tiiden-l oondemned his acton Tho
DANGER OF wrong on other side Is ils tendency
another to do it, by reaction abuses and wrongs
grow until they become common practice
That WIS one OF the reasons that caused mo 10
put my foot upon everything OF this kind
THR "TokcRs BE GOT TOGETHER" DESPATCH.
Mr.. Hiscock-Yes. and It is on the assumption
that you would have done 81 that have desired
TO make the i9ct prominent that the Democratic
Committee allowed all Its correspondence To- DO
in the name Of Col. Pelton. aud alter 1t was ds-
covered tha! no was receiving propos tons Tor
nor tRe anS F bo%rf ny nSf you rS
moved him from TINT position. | make THIS re-
mark as IN d,roct line with the remark you
made. Now desire 10 call your attention TO
ono other despatch that came from Mr. Marble.
that came addressed to Col, Pelton: Woolley
asks me- to say: Let forces be- got together inn
mediaicly IN raadness for contingencies either
here or Louisiana" Did you ever see that da-
spatch before II WIS published2
GOV. Tilden-l never did
Oil you hal seen II, that phrase. " Let torcce
your attention. would II notW Alt might
Q-II@yc you any doubt it wouldp A.-Id do
not know; don't understand what II means.
Q.-l think that is all. 1 will ask you this ono
have heard that about that time any consider
able sum 81 monny was ruiscd by anybody con-
necied with the National Democatio Commit
Q-You have not Have you known then. or
have you learned since, that. at any time after
the election. that any considerable sum OF
money WIS raised 10y any Democratic PARTIES.
here or elsewhere. which might DO used in those
states or ior political purposes Al cannot
Q.-Has no communication Of that kind ever
been made To YOU. that any considerable sum of
money WAS raised by Democratic paitics which
might bc used for political purposes | am
n9w speak ng Of after the election.
Mr.. Sprin ler-Ara YOU rnferriug 20 the DO
spatrhes published by the Tribune in your pres
eni questions. or to tho eXDcnsos vi the c.tin-
paign
Mr.. Hiscock-I say distinctly. after the clee-
tiOu wis over.
Gov. TlDirn-I cannot undertake. to ssy. 10
causo the Committee may hnyn been In Debt
think IA" Committee WINS pretty largely m debit.
think Il wns more or less m debt for yrur
Q.-Well. my question was whether YOU lrn,y
OF any money being raised which might nave
been used inthos1 Smies2 Al do not
rQ.-No moneys being raised through th'
WIS going ON Al cannot say whether that
$50 or not cannot tell you.
Q.-Docs that moan to imply that YOU hHvs
heard OF something Of the kind2 Alt means
MAT cannot say to you. did not keep nur
Y. tBy Sir. Rcodi--will you be kind enough IN
lnpE nj the telegram from Col. Prltun To- Smith
NJ Weed of Nov. l6, in which ho says: There
able decision could los had" ~ Dm you eyer
seq INT irl ,Eraml Al mover did.
~ me nntur" OF legal opinion. Is II nOtl A.
II npu"nrs Ia be.
Odd You over communicate that 10 Cob
= Il that rs strong as you cnn state 1t You
say SIMPLY you don't think YOU did. Al have
no recn!lection in the least
Gwen, do YOU know That YOU did not ndvisa
tol ,Prion on legal question Of tnat sort
Odd be cvrr advise with You as to thoa,
legal gursiipnsf Al hnvo no recollection II
his having ever don" 50.
Q.-lou knew all this timo that Coi Psltun
WAS IN direct communication with thrs.' gcn;le-
mnnt A.-A what UuHf
Q.-At IN" time those grutlnmnn wer. IN
south Cnrniinn and Foriln2 Al 10 noi
mink knew he Was IN any special conmu-
nirution.
Q.-p!Int you know he WIS roooiv.ns nu.
W'r9us i"l"Erams from the visiting statesmen
Q.-N' when he was living nj your house
ANA they were ilrr,fod ~ Your housrP A.-No
sir; none except fifteen Florlln on"s.
u. Ddnt You know others were sont theroi
Al DO rot think they were sent there.
Q-Mhy do yuu not think $50? Al tiink
Womb hnye known It 10 they had n'"n. | have
htnddy tod vOu they were not lrliNrr' thcre
low do y'u know A...Mrl Iv' tn"rr
AMI u happens sometimes that trlrrrumA tuhi
com" tnrIN como within NV kulWlrd..'
y. And mono ut these eyer diiY A.-Nu sir
.. But docs IL not impair tho CERTAINTY oi
your knHWlrlS" That YOU cannot tell whether
certain t"loSrnms were received hy your private
secretary Al do not think SO, Not largd
numhnr rAmr thcr" at all.
. Wh!ttmc did Col. Potion spend nj yout
house, Ale cHma IN after went To boil and
went away IN the morning without soeiug md
generally.