New-York tribune., 1879-03-25

,ncor,,tv thar had been shown by tho de-
fence and the amazing power OF
70 this case The fact was that these specifications
which referred facts that occurred more than year
man present knew It, The speaker here referred rec
TO the publications that had been made conSerhhs & M
year ago. and said that he then dsresarded 9e, De
that later publications made tne fttea Sn~hf
10 look into It, Mr. Crosby characterized as utterly
9ma2'na NJ nu az mnst be investigated before Mr..
MI MilIaid RESPONDED 10 Mr.. Crosbys argument
briefly asserting that the offences which the latter
claimed had become fragrant within the last year. WeTe
tdally dyjng. away nnt raised by this prosecution
Fcr himself he sbond be sorry IL they were not PER
iicd 10 gc at every charges made In the Indictment
ane prove the weakness OF them all. .,,. ,...,.,.
Mr. McCniloch had nothing to add 10 what Mt Crosby
had sad. Dr. spear closed the argument masing uI & en
plict and emphatic disclaimer OF any attempt 10 shnA
heInd technical cs for the sake Of cOnccaling quit or
avoiding disclosure. ANY suggestion he added vehe
meny. any mputatCD, any npnenG0 Oh 'h"' chai"0'e'
pronounce absolu;cly and totally false. - a.. A.,
The Moderator here announced his decision that the
must be stricken out, giving ms reasons
therefor 81 length. Twice Dr.. Van Dyke ATTEMPTED to
speak during the delivery OF ihe deei;9n nih pt VIZ n
stopped by the Moderator who preferred 10 Hn'sh Ills
remarks first.
SPEECH OF MR. TATMAGE.
Al the conclusion Of The modeatOr's remarks Mr.
Talmage addressed the chair, ard again Dr. Van Dyke
was obliged 10 yield. Mr. Tamage smoke rs follows:
Mr. Moderator. feel very thankful for the connse
that nave been permitted TO obtain on this subject
from my friends Dr. spear and Dr. MilInrd II seems TO
me that they hayo proved very copcuslyey thai
s PGSfSeFy S yeach S 90 ore yea And you have
so decided. Indeed. far as have been ieimtedto
lcar from the PrtsbytCran ClCr@ymeh Ot the country
ana l have heard from many OF mem. they l,G
indignant that thero is aay diSposlhpn 10 prraK
TINS law OF tie Presbyterian Shulcn, ana !
am glad that through the arguments Of my fends ana
through your decision it Is SHOWN that the ecce.asca
law is on our side. But now, III the 1"'n9 d. %% VI
the Lord Jesus Christ whose au, ana WhoM
serve demand nyesiisat%on Ion upon p,nc,aan,to1s Hn 0I
may reach The great mass OF me people haYs 10 IN
teros in our Book Of BSnPns Ihgy want TO k9ST MS
orator, | wake up IN the nght abu Hhd TWO
Interest in the question whether they came in by The
front door, through the cellar way OF Gown ~ ihc
is how to put my hands on me assassin u S'Ne I'O M o
OF my family. Now. sr, IL IS Known al lHe
snatinn of my character. and tue daggefs are ttd
have interest in the question whether the ssalans
back door OF technical wrong. All want to know Is
who ere the assailants and how to arrest then lap
Now. Mr.. Moderator. have great regard for the
Brooklyn PrcsDyt"y, but have great Ieeaid al,o iof
and no man who is trying TO God and do good can
be indifferent 10 the position OF ihst eCnIt
IS iGpanercd. and they want the iaes ana
Prc,bycry or through Kings County Grand Jury lAp-
piauso suppressed by hlu. want s0uel2w To- have
atoms for We shall be able 10 prove ether
in ral or N investigation That not only did no wroi
but that made mistake, and that every Intelligent
man regardfu Of his own rigns. under the same cir
cnmstnn.cs would have done precisely a5
ms eternal uscc l. therefore, Mr. Moderator. avail
myscif OF the suggestion that You made reference o-
tie regulation to which you have rcierr'd-i avail my
self Of that Eht.
ALOUD CALL TO TIE MODERATOR.
Mr.. Tamage had scarcely uttered the last word,
when up sprang Dr Van Dyke, aud in the
most cmphatic tones addressed the moderator
as follows: The question I wlsh TO ask
YOU sir, ia by what authority you undertake 10
amend the Indictment which this Prcshytcy adopted at
it. last meeting and where that authority is conferred
upon youl Please give Inc the chapter Of the book.
You have been called the supreme Judge IN
one PlcsbytereF mere, put IN tnat position
for time to keep order and your simple function Is to
decide questions Of order. Now YOU nave assumed on
the motion OF The counsel for the defense to decide
question which enters into the very merits of the use
before us Give u.s. II you please the chapter and verse
The Mcdorator-The Moderator cannot allow this
impug gning OF the authority Of The chair.
Dr. Van Dyke-l don't impugl your m0tiyes, but /
questian your authority, and protest ag5inst your
making any such decision. GIvc rs The authority.
The NoGeratOr-Thc Moderator declines 10 DO thar
upon the ground tat the objection must show the law
against the Courts dong 10.
DR.. Van Dyke-WIl you allow to show you the
Tne Moderator-Yes.I wish you 20.
Or. Van Dyke-I hope won't be called To order now.
SHff OF Of THIS ths cour Which has been gwen
10y the counsel for the prosecution; and second,
| object To the anaogics whi1n have been drawn
between this PrcsyteIy winch "a tic court 81 Jesus
Christ. and the civil courts OF the land You arc not
word is not used m our book.
The ModeTatoL-I beg your pardon: The book says
Dr. Van Dyk continued his argument, chafacerHng
the action Of the CDd as uSuiuai!1n oI authority, a.
though rot conscious one, OF course.
Dr. Butler here rose and said-i may say voted
against these two specifications at The moeng. but
in regard this matter which is vital to the Prcsby
terian order. would state one having very
tiiaf tnan any ny member Of tie Tresbytery. that
the PSs' lie N "a '49 nSS Se in S m W6TG
but the lresIdlng judge OF the judges You read from
the book correctly We all judges, and no question
touching the decision Of these matters, except matters
and questions purely Of order can be decided by the
moderator Every suc question nEst OF necessity DC
dcclaed by a vote of the Prcsbytcry.
Tie Moderator-The Moderator would not take right
Dr. Bn,er-T Know you would not; but I
enter protest to hi procedure. II the Moderator
JON with this protest because this IS matter
vita! TO any Presbyterian order II breaks down all
understands that nave nothing 10 say against him
the Moderator-The Moderator therefore withdraws
his decision simpy because it meets with opposition
the part o. the Prcsbytcry. IN which they aege viola
On OF the law ana the custom VI tic chET unless II
can br shown TO the contrary.
that NAKED abstract question OF the Of the
presiding judge III Icgard TO various Huestons that
power you cianI-Cn that question VIII express no
Opnion-no exercise Of mat power can he had
that IL not subject 10 an appeal am perfectly willing
withouta moments further debate, TO have The
question 10 the PTcsbtoTy 20 whether lhOsc speCI
cauOns snall be ruled according the rue If the
The resolution being declared debatable. Mr. Van
Dyke spoke at COU5id T3bc cuCA ~ the question,
declaring that the whole argument of the opposite
counsel went to show that the specification must
indicate all the evidence, and the right way for
counsel To do would be until the cydcHce il in
not ouly definitely what Is confirmed, but who confirms
ana then the courtesy Of The and the right
the defence would give them just long time they
wanted to prepare their answer.
The speaker gave what he called six solid |
reasons Why the motion should not De adopted |
The first was that the question had already |
been discussed cXLaustyely and decided |
The second was mat oven u the law OF limitation did
apply 10 this case, the accused lad waived ii and had
right TO wave If.
Tho speaker said: " II the man viii prove here what
lie undertakes to prove God is Judge VIII stand
bI him 10 the death, whatever ODuIOus NAV layc Of