New-York tribune., 1879-11-13
STATE AND NATIONAL TOPICS.
ATaLK WITH EX-MAYOR ELY.

Mr.. KELLY A TYPICAL CELT-HIs CONTROL OF THE
IRISH vOTE-HAYEs AND IILDEN AS PREsI-
DENTAL CANDIDATES.
Fx-May0r Smith Ely accosted by
TRIBUNE reporter at the Fifth Avenue Hotel on
Tuesday night and asked if the result of the State
election a week before surprised him.
mo" he answered, "though had not expected
as many votes for Kelly. and thought he would get
about 80, 600 in the city,"
"Wen. at the Syracuse Convention, Mr.. Ely. the
Robinson men only conceded him $4,000 votes in
the whole State and city,"
go. pshaww replied the ex-Mayor; "I could have
told them better than that. There is a local power
here which is sure to give Kelly 10000 votes when
ever IT agrees TO-"
"Do you refer to the church powerT
"Yes, the parish priests. was under the i'm
PRESTON first that Kelly had got mad at the conven
ton. and bolted without being of his alliance
or having previously made his agreement; but see
now that he went out with his eyes open"
"Can he repeat the same performance in the Pres
idenlial election ~
q don't see any reason why he cannot As long
as his integrity is considered sound where he gets
his backing he will receive large part of the Irish
vote. With his people Kelly is a natural leader.
When he went out through the State to make
speeches some of men said he would hurt him.
self as soon as be seen. told them they didn't
know what they were talking about. Kelly is
typical Celt, and as as he showed himself in
the large cities where there Irish poDulace,
and they looked at him, they saw their compatriot
and type and wheeled into line for him.
"How long can he retain control and leadership
in Tammany Hallp
81 don't see as long as he desires TO stay there.
how they can get him out. You see the Democratic
party in this city is very little but the Irish vote
Tammany is the great lodge and campaigning organ
ization where the Irish race IN New-iork City finds
its expression There is person who could prob
ably take his place who would as thoroughly con-
troll the Irish vote"
"Ourht Robinson to have run for Governori'
"Well Kelly forced the nomination of Robinson
l,v threatening him. suppose il was fixed so that
there was no alternative but TO run him for Gov
nor"
"Who will be the next President, Mr.. Ely y
"Hayes. should think. l am pretty well as
sured that the country will go Republican next
time. and il seems to me that the business people
will say that there IS no use changing iI9m hayes
tn Grant and we had better keep Hayes" -
"Uasn't he made "a pretty good administration Y
Eyes A rather motfensive. uninterierlns. quiet
administration. under which the times nave got
don't YOU think Grant. however. has strong
grasp on the palmer people OF the kepubilcan
Nodoubt of that and ifit is not Hayes 1t may
IBID Won observe before the election that the
oeneral feeling of the business people favored the
snccess of the Republican party y
"Yes Every man who had i've dollars was scared
bv the action of Congress. As long as congress
continued ITS aggressive attitude saw that the
democratic party was doomed TO defeat,
:" Then YOU don't think it looks favorable for any
Democrat to be elected, or 10 carry New-lOrk next
time y ., . Louo -. ou
sudden business reynlsIon might throw the Repub-
lican party off the track, but that is not probable
before the Presidential election comes"
Who do you suppose VIII De the Democratic
candidate for the fOrlorn hOpcV
well lilden. As the party has been making
en- much fuss over his loss of the Presidency by the
connt don't very well see how they can adopt any
other candidate That has been the line of argu-
mepf for two or three years. don't think the op-
portunity is worth much, any way"
observe that they are bringing ont In Ohio the
names of Hendricks and Potter for President and
Nice-President." =,
"If those Ohio men have anything to do with it,"
said the ex-MayOr, / shall vote the Republican
ticket" -,
"Where have yOu been, Mr.. Ely. for some time
past didn't you looking after the election"
- have been attending To my private business
down in the swamp suppose nobody Will be be-
Heyed IN this country when he says that he feels
better satisfied out of Office than in II. went TO
the Alayor's Office to-day for Il few minutes, ana
stood with NY back against the fireplace, and found
everything just asll left 1.-THE bell IN the same
place and my chair there and asked myself
whether did not want to be back seriously.
tonnd thai was able to answer that question hon
estly and wholly i'll the negative"