The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-11-10

purchase. But there are. you see. matters o.
detail, and there various modes in which th'
end can be accomplished. What We want imme
diateiy Is to demonstrate that settlement or
some process involving the extinction of landlord
ism in Ireland is necessity and the only sort OF
settlement which be final and that the people
willing to suffer for ages while the result
being arrived at by gradual and easy stages That
why want help from America. to enable us to
keep demonstrating this--to protect any victims
whom the landlords attempt to sacrifice. and to
give the people the courage which Will come from
the knowledge that they are not unfriended.
HERALD REPkEsENTATIvE-Ther many Sec
tons OF Irlshmen in America. Mr.. Parnell, who
think that the besr is to get rid OF the British
Mr.. PARNEII.-Weil. even they are agreed that the
one great thing II to have a caf-governed
Irish people, is to keep the people ut homo and to
make them the owners OF the Irish land. 1t Is the
first great step toward nationhood.
HERALD REPREsENrATIvE-It 10 said you intend 60
ing to the United States to address, countrymen
and ask their aid to the movement and their acive
sympathy too.
America about the middle OF November. will spend
two months among my countrymen. addressing
them ut public meetings. and hope to return IN
EXPECTATIONS AID.
HERALD RxpRrsEsrATIyE-Doy you expect much did
from Irish Americans?
Mr. PAaNELL-I can't say what expect. I dare
say they will receive me in a friendly way. at all
events. and can only tell them what are trying
to do, and how and to what extent they help
II they believe that right in desiring to place
the Irish people In the possession of the Irish soil
tuen tney Will tncv that our
method Of doing il is practicable. There are com
puted to be ten millions of Irish in the States and
Canada. If they could send us 100000 year for
five years. it would not be half a dollar family in
ALL and it would go long way in enabling win.
HERALD REPREsEvrArIvE-But your people here
would. suppose do something financially.
Mr.. PARNELL-Of course; but they are poor and
cannot do all. 1t will be big struggle-the
biggest Ireland has yet seen Of its kind
HERALD REpREsENTATIvE--But it has been said that
the Irish would do better by helping to bring out
your Irish farmers. We have lands for them and NO
landlords
Mr.. PARNEL1-True; but the Irish farmers don't
want to go, and won't go if they can help it. Ono
thing we have made up our minds to here. and that
u.s. there will never be another exodus. never an
other famine Besides. 1T is not the interest of the
Irish In America Of the laboring classes to invite
another half million of Irlsnmen settle in the
States. increasing the labor supply and reducing
thereby pay for labor. 1t is said you have thou
sands Of idle men in your cities Send them to till the
America to enable the Irish at home to stay in Ire
land But they do not desire to look at the question
of interest. Their desire is to prosperous
land ruled by Irishmen, and all the Movem ents in
which they have been enthusiastic have had that
object.
HERALD REpRKsRNrArlvE-How would the settling
of the occupier the soil Of Ireland owner do
away with American competition. which is admitted
OF the causes of the present crisis?
Mr.. PARNEII-By taking away the drain of land
lordism the occupier could produce more cheaply.
and sell to the home consumer at as low rate the
American can. or course Americans might say they
don want to lose market or to aid n producing
irish competition against them in England but
America has other markets to sell her produce in,
and the profits of our land system with peasant pro-
prietary would 60 into our towns to create manu-
features and commerce and means of exchange with
the States In any case, with he of the wealth
produced from her own soil, Ireland would with her
own capital, be enabled to make herself the great
transit station for the commerce between America
and Europe. and vice Ultimately the States
would gain more from us and we from the States
than by another exodus.
HERALD Observation-Disclosures afoat that
troops are coming here to meet disturbances and
protect the landlords in clearing their estates VIII
the people resist?
Mr.. PARNK1L--The people will simply stay where
they are. There is no idea of using force. II any
disturbance comes the government or the landlords
must begin it. don't believe they will provoke
ours. The movement will 60 on peacefully, but do
terminedly and unfalterngly.
This closed the interview between the HERALD
representative and the member for Meath, who ex.
pressed his qualification again and again at the in.
terest which America takes in tho condition OF Ire
land