The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-03-23
PERE HYAClN9HE.
The New Religious Movement
in France.
DOCTRINES FOUNDERS.
Interviews withPue Hyaclnths, Cornelius Rooss-
welt and The Comte de DouVllIe- Malneleu
1.-THE NEW GALLlCAN CHURCH NOT SCHISAATlC."
Revival of the Old Catholic Faith in Its
Original Purity and Simplicity.
WHAT THE GALLICAN REFOUMERS REALLY WANT
The Theology of the New Church
American Sympathizers.
Commencement Of the Apostolic
Millennium.
1.-THE NEW GALLlCAN CHURCH NOT SCHISAATlC."
Revival of the Old Catholic Faith in Its
Original Purity and Simplicity.
WHAT THE GALLICAN REFORMERS REALLY WANT
The Theology of the New Church
American Sympathizers.
Commencement Of the Apostolic
Millennium.
PARIS, March 8. 1879.

PARIS, March 8. 1879.
As no one deny the Importance Of the religious
question in all that concerns modern society-and
especially in Catholic countres-it is equally useless
deny the importance of the work proposed to him.
self in this of European Catholicty. Paris. by
NJ. Hyacinthe Loyson. better known under his reli-
gious appeation of Pare Hyacinthe. II 1t were
movement undertaken by an ordinary priest of the
Roman Church. as has often occurred less signif
canoe might be attached the enterprise; but Pere
Hyacnthe is not ordinary priest ordinary
man. He is unquestionably one of the hrst pulpit
orators Of the times Besides he is not only honest
man and sincere Christian. but he Is Of that small
remnant Of great army OF men who have always
been willing to die for their faith. and what Is
often more difficult. is willing to live for it
that is to say, to act according to its dictates.
I acquainted with Pere Hyacinthe personally. and
knowing his repugnance for anything like enter
viewing" have hestated about asking him for in
formation which he alone give Meeting him
the other day told him Of my desire snd of my
hesitation. He replied well. as know that you
do not come to me out Of mere curiosity. but Q
gentleman and representative Of the HERALD. will
try to give you the information you desire. But
what the points which you wish for informa.
ton p
WELL" replied. '.I should like to know some
thing Of your ideas and your plans well of the
programme Of the work you have undertaken here"
"Ah! that covers q great deal Of ground. he said.
sand would require more than casual conversation
like this to make it clear to you Come to my house
tomorrow and we will then enter fully into the
matter"
need not say that was punctual to the appoint
ment and 1 shall proceed to transcribe from my
notes. for the benefit of the readers Of the HERALD
the particulars OF this interesting interview
CATHOLIC REFORM.
''wil you please tell me what you understand by
Catholic reform?"
II understand by it that it is the duty Of every
good Catholic to remain steadfas to his faith and
try and reform the abuses into which the Church has
fallen
"May I ask what you understand by remaining
CatholicY' asked.
the Bible and that OF the Church throughout the first
centuries: nothing more and nothing less"
"And what the abuses you speak Off"
"Well, they may all be summed up in this The
GENERALIZATION Of power in the person Of the Bishop
Of Rome"
Then you don't believe in having Popea" re-
marked
'n." he replied calmly. and with show Of bit
terness. "if having Pope who Is uniQse and arbi-
trary spiritual governor. arrosattng - himself
superiority over his brother Bishops and tenn
poral rights over governments. no. And IL assum-
Ing to be- or even accepting to be- what alone God
Standardization thousands times no! But have
no objection to having central bishop in the gov
eminent of the Church. among the bishops
chosen dean president Of the College of
Bishops. Indeed. as in all governments there is
central man l think there is no reason why the
Universal Church should not have as its central
first Bishop primate who Is Of them and equal
10 them primus inter pares-but not their governor
ruler. for the Church Of Christ is o nstitu-
tion and like all free institutions. should govern
itself.
THE CHARACTER OF THE PRIVACY.
This. you see," he continued. els what Christ
evidently established in the person OF Peter and what
continued by the Apostolic Church down to the
rivalries and between the great Sees Of
the Orient and Occident and what simply
the primacy it exists in tho Anglo
American Episcopal Church. This ancient
primacy is as far removed from the modern Papacy
IS are order and justice removed from disorder and
injustice. And while there may have been historical
and geographical why this central See should
be in Rome. there Is no moral reason why It should
not be in London or New York. It not bad
idea" he added, by parenthess. "that of your excel
lent Archbishop of New York. Mgr McCloskey. at the
Vatican Council when he declared that there should
be . law passed that no Pope could be elected who
had not resided in the United States of America at
least four years. Had this law been in operation and
Leo Kill had had four years OF experience with tho
large heart the independent and intelligent mind Of
America. he would. feel sure, have ventured fur
tier than he has done already in putting down the
abuses of the Roman Cura; for he IL, believe, .
truly honest. vrtuous and intelligent man. only he
has inherited the tolls aud trammels Of the Papacy
and is not strong enough yet to break away from
them and stand out great delivercr OF the Church
Of Christ. But" continued the Pere. II in sort
Of prayer. God. who is doing much for may
be preparing the way for great Pope a hero saint
and mayhap martyr. who will stand up and say.
Thus far and no farther will CO. We will return
TO the heritage Christ leaving the gotten gains
Of the worldl All! yes, that time must come.
AMERICAN poPE.
"if We could have had Mgr. McCloskey. of New
York. or the venerable and sanity Archbishop Of st.
Louis-Mr. Kendrck-elccted Pope" he continued,
81 believe should have already entered upon
era of Catholic progress. These men. with other
American bishops whom could name well the
great Croat. strossmayer held out ~ long az pos
sible foreseeng the evil result the new dogma
tnfallbty; but at last the pressure from Rome be-
came too great; they before them only the dis
mcmbcrncnt OF their dioccses and the shipwreck of
many souls. and they. alasi yielded. And we who
know the inner working Of the Roman system know
what tho world does not know-how these bishops
suffer"
but" asked. ''f you reject the sovereignty OF
the Pope. do you really feel yourself to be Catholc'
You know that those who do this are generally
looked upon Protestants?'
WELL" he said 81 will ask you in reply IL. when
the English colonies la America threw OF their allie
UzLce to England did they In their war Of indepen