The New York herald., 1879-08-31

ivered at either OF tho pool yards. namely. Oakcd
Slxty-tifth street. North River the Pennsylvania
sard. but not at any other yard THAI the
shipper inay desire. during the time OF the eyener
system witness thought shipper of cattle within
this state did not have TO pay more than gross rate
from Buffalo, but n commission OF Sl5 car was
gwen to the evener. thus making his rate
SO much lower; it is not the custom OF the New
York Central to unload cattle from the West any
point the State and then reload and carry them to
New York for through rates. He thought II that
was done no more than the expense or such adai-
tional service should be charged.
After short cross-eaaminaton Mr.. butchers s
further examination was suspended the cominittee
notifying him that he would probably be recalled "t
some subsequent meeting.
MR.. PATTERSON RECALLED.
+. G. Patterson was recalled to the stand ana ex-
planned to the committee map OF the OIL regions
showing pipe lines and railroads.
lin the testimony this witness taken on Friday
where he is reported saying. 1T was generally
understood that the New York Central owns one
third OF the Standard Oil Companys Stock. IL
should read. Omitted Pipe line stock
Mr. Patterson testified that the gentlemen CON-
posing the Standard Oil Company are the gentlemen
Composing the different other oil companies; Mr..
George II. Villas is auditor of the Standard Oil Com
pany; he is related to AIr. Villas. OF the Erie.
Mr. blanchard here reniarhed:-"Yes, he Is
brother
Witness (rcsumlng) said-The usual royalty for
mining oil on the land of another was. in the Brad
ford district oneeighth 1t had gradually increased
until ii is one-quarter.
Mr. Stein special accountant of the Erie Company,
then test1ed:-uave been connected with the Erie
Company since about three months after Mr.. Gould
left was specially detailed to investigate the
of Mr.. Gould with the company; had under exam
ination the book OF Smith, Gouh Co.; also ex-
arnined the accounts OF Mr. Gould-other than APP
peared by the books OF Smith. Gould. Martin Co.;
examined the Eris books to ascertain what moneys
Gould had received from the Erie. and
made written reports to Mr.. Watson and to
Mr. Ste5bins Chairman of the Finance Committee,
anu complete report of all this matter made to
Mr. Little the present auditor; these were made
under the instructions of Mr.. Watson and Mr.. Lit
tie; the report to Mr.. Little submitted over
year ago, and the witness was not in
formed by any officer or director of the
Erie as to the purpose for which 1t was
prepared witness was in possession of the general
books OF the Erie, copies of Smith, Gould and
Martins books. vouchers and other papers for this
purpose, and witness thought, without hattering
himself. that the report was very complete one;
he thought he began these researches prior to re-
ceivership.
Q. In such investigation. did YOU find that Gould
had issued stock just prior, and that such stock
placed i'll the hands OF Smith. Gould. Martin Il Co..
and that it produced about twelve millions? A.
don't recollec the millions: recollect that there
were millions in It.
O. Do you think that you could estimate the ag-
gregate amount of wrong-doing on the part of Mr..
Gould that yon have discovered? A. could give
you estimate. not knowing. on a couple of mill
ions here or there; could say that it amounted
to about-that is, what We discovered
amounted to about S12.000,000 or $4,000, 600;
Witness further testified that Of the objection
able transactions of Gould were with Smith Gould.
Martin Co.. and said that his report would show
what ought to have been received and what actually
wrs received by the Eric of the produce of this
stock.
your subpoena A. No. sir showed the subpoena
to counsel for the Erie Company and he told me that
not in my custody: did not show this subpoena to
the officer Of the company having control OF this
port.
The further examination of this witness was sus.
pended until the report could be produced. and the
committee adjourned, to meet at ten O'Clock on
Monday morning.