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WdS 1JLDEN SOLD OUT?
What General Gary Says Of Senator Hamp.
toms Course--Senator Hampton Bitterly
Donles the Charge.
The New York Herald has publish
cd an interview it's Columbia CORE
sponacnt had with General Nj. W.
Gary. After declaring most cmphati-
cally against Grant, and protesting his
earnest adherence to sound Constitu-
tiomal principles, General Gary de-
clarcd his preference for Ewing as the
Democratic nor:incc on account Of his
financial opinions. lie had this to say,
however, of Tillcn:
Tildcn, if he gets nominated again,
will get tho unanimous support Of the
Southern people. It's idle to dispute
that solidest of all solid facts is the So
called solid South. Damn himr' pro-
cecdcd the General, now warming to
the theme, "l'm sorry for him, too.
think Tildcn has been badly treated.
lie was sold out by Southern leaders.
lilo ought not, however, to have suf-
fercd himself to be sold out by any
body. lie should have claimcd his
rights. That's why, even while l say
Pm sorry for him, add that | don't
like his sort of man. lie has no
thing 0fthc Andrew Jackson kind in
him. Yet | would support him hearth
ly again, because believe he was sac
rificcd to tho South and that tho South
owes him an atoncmcnt. Moreover,
believe that, being tho greatest tacti-
clan of tho time, having immense ma
chincry which he has organized at his
disposal, having still tho most power
tul of his friends in 1876 to back him,
aud, perhaps, having besides tho COM
modify hc is reported to have by the
barrcltul, he may be nominated in
1880, and, if nominated, will certainly
SAMUEL SOLD OUT BY TIE SOUTH.
"But you say T'ildcn was sold ont
ny Southern leaders. That's IL new
phrase. Howr
ooh, l know it will raise the devil"
said General Gary, "but it might rs
well come out. The long and short of
1T is that proposition was mado to
me at the well known mass meeting at
Abbcvillc in 1876 to Withdraw The
Tildcn electors Of this Statc!"
TIE SHAMEFUL PROPOSITION.
"By whomw
'"By Gen. Hampton, at tho time
when he had been nominated but not
elected for the govcrnorship. lie,
Ioombs and mysclfspokc at the meet
ing, Hampton approached me on the
platform with that proposition"
"Now," l asked Gen. Gary, "plcase
explain for what reason that Suggestion
was made, and what service its adon-
ton would have bccn to IIamptons
cause"
"Wcll, sir, ut that time we wanted to
redeem South Carolina from Garnet
Dag rulc, and some Of us didn't care q
damn how 1t was to como about.
Hampton knew that the Radicals here
wouldn't vote for Tildcn and Hen
drlcks and at the same time they hated
Chamberlain, the Republican candi-
date for governor, like tho devil. Il
was, understood that Cooke and
Mackoy said they would vote tho
Hampton State ticket if HAMPTON
would Withdraw tho Tildcn electors
and thus insure tho State for the Re-
publican National ticket. Hampton
virtually said to these mch, IF you'il
elect mo governor, | don't care whom
you elect PRESIDENT That was why
he came to me at Abbevillo with the
proposition Ihavc mentioned"
A SHARP ANSWER TO HAMPTON.
"What did you say to it?"
~ said, in tho first place, that as
South Carolina had sent delegates to
and fairly participated in tho National
Convention which nominated Tilien.
the Withdrawal of tho electors would
be piece of bad faith. In tho newt
place, ] said it couldn't DO done with.
0nt calling another convention. TO
inns hampton responded that it might
Oc zone through tho State Executive
Committee. Without acquiescing, II
answered Hampton that if he and tho
rest were resolved to do it, wouldn't
make war upon tho conclusion. I'vc
since heard that at mcctinc held
that night, which I didn't attend, but
at which Hampton, Toombs, Con.
McGoWan and Col. Cothran were
present, thcre was hot time. Nc
GoWan wouldmt agree, nohow, and
the project foil through. Novcrthc.
less, Pyo always regarded It in the
light OF q traitorous disaf1ection to
Iildon before his election, showing a
disposition to sacrifice him in this
State.
WHY AToNEMENT IS NECESSARY.
"It was nothing moro nor less than
an offor to surrender the State to HAYES
IN order to secure tho election of
Hampton; honco my Willingness to
sec atonement made in case Tildon is
again nominated. That nomination,
lrcpeat, ignoring my preference for f
Ewing, wonld undoubtedly bo receiv-
ed by onr people with full acclaim.
Tho whole South would vote for III.
den. Whoever tells you It won't tolls
9 ne. There would DO no boiling.
We've had enough Of bolting---enough
Of secession. You can't get any more
of 1T nom tho South. Talk Of tSnmth.