The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-01-28


names WERE but he believes one was Martin.
AT this point the clerk of tho Committee
brought in n clumsily wrapped newspaper
package, and handed il TO the Chairman, upon
whom all oyes were Immediately turned. Blush-
-" "Gentemen. he said. Il ordered from Mrs,
Whqis- -hcr-name in the lobby. twelve copies OF
the Tribune special about the cipher dispatches;
but II seems there has been some mistake. and
che has sent twelve packages Of molasses
Mr.. Reed-Eithor is sweet enough for this
Mr.. Hiscock-It is very evident she appre-
cinted what you wanted. or needed. Laughter
The examination ot GRAIN was then renewed.
and further details were given by him Of tele-
grams which passed between Messrs. Chandler
and Tyner He also testified with regard to
telegram from Foster relating TO the same mat
ter:
MIR. Green at this point explained that he had
FORGOTTEN one circumstance in connection with
these teegrams. The number was incomplete,
and, atthe suggestion OF Grant. the manager at
Indianapolis was notified TO send on the rest.
The Charman-You stated that you had forgotten
names unn you heard the last witness mrnton them.
william chandler. do your llaughter
Gen Builer TO Grann-I want to understand some
uiins more about this Tvner teegraphed 20 chandler
depArtment' Ayes SIR; two appointments OF $500
Q.-For those appointments a certain sum Of money
would be- paul and Tyncr wished 70 have such sum de-
posted In the bank 80 could be drawn In Indiana A.
c6sndlSr lie was to deposit The money and make the
GSnsS SsrspneS & hs ,Ims he d Or epo,s s n
sf"'
o-when 1id YOU ara mention thisi Alright here
IN this
Mr.. Cary. being recalled. said he would like
TO make statement that he knew nothing Of
any consequence with regard to these teei
grams. and TO make an objection that what lie
did know was privileged knowledge. that came
to him as attorney for tho Western Union Tele-
graph Company.
Mr. Buuor-Answer this question and then make
Oil la. been testified by Mr. Grant that he received
a,cheduie from you From whom did YOU receive that
sohedule' Al plead my privilege on that question
Mr.. Butler argued that as he did not desire TO
ask the contents OF this paper, but simply put
the question for the purpose OF tracing II. wit
ness was bound to answer.
The Chairman concurred in this opinion and
| witness then replied to the question that he
had not the remotest recollection from whom he
| got the schedule. or that he ever had II.
M. BnteI-Thsn Why did you Object A-Beeause
| Mr. Buucr-Tcl US whatttis
Witness claimed his objection. and discus
| sion followed on the point OF privilege between
him and Mr.. Butler. and the latter read the law
on that point
Mr. Hiscock-It seem. to me that csry's objection is
entirely pf9psr IN declining 70 answer thi question and
| Mr. Butcr"oh YOU have me there dc ne, hold that
Mr. lh.eock-rhe point wish to make Is that the nar.
outside OF the resolution which passed the other day
for the parpose of nvsssains incs" sSeinS matters
and having been shown thst the parties having charge
that the Pre- dent of the institution through which these
CIPHER dsspsisSes~ibs class which viii Sest a... hi.
| own political party-haye rEnt to bring uose other
Mr. Hlseock-My idea tat the purpose of the resou.
about not TO prove the destruction u bthers
cipher despaichcs. no matter by whom -ent
Mr. Buuer-Iit to be done at ALL It Is to be done we'll,
Mr NeNAhon-Just 50 have no wish to have itdone
Mr. Recd-But then We have only six weeks to do it In
Mr. hisrock-fhe resolution that has been pas~sd has
encng elections, and We have spent the whole day
A -. =.
House with regard to cipher des spa,ches. par
| elrction
| Mr. Hscock contended that the resolution re-
ierred 10 the uespatches that hau Deeh pup
Mr. NcNAhon-But these de.patchss are part Of the
msschnery o, thc election OF 1870 ..,,..- .,-..-
despsichcsi "-' N'' ~ ''"" " ""'"'''' -e'p"''
msnt oficer. In Loai.ans / mean The army / mean
s, sn mi % nay mem outside ~, S s1, ~ 70 y at
gncrupuioasiy S ""' NV" ""0 '' "''""I !" A''
hst ever existed 40 not seem " DC 0''''0 A"''s
had nothing to Do Win tseS ,rsSaolon.. % Of eear.S
Let me go on In is7e certain gentlemen got snI
| dent oTton and ask that certain despstches nsss
necuve Mni.ter ~ Nsxice shsn be- destrJivei Vel
This was eomped with and now We wish to show ,hat
he~ despatches were OF political character DO lie
gentlemen mink iha when W eo into The
Si la.se cipher IN "i We & ars u Se AnrheS %
must think We are children We are not Atung here
sides 1t Ia pretty wei! known that this
resolution was onr,.l " lhis 1ommt''e AZ my sugses
~. Nm M ,gtnt ~ uIi shns that ~ ~ csn,io
| OF investigsunr both sides thoroughly even thoueh
such invesncauon may hurt is own men as well
| A. the other side. want TO believe that the
Denoeraue party whi have no standing ~ ms
ttbst ma now sny npblirly ,hst sbga ut9 ho,S
proceedings Vindicaung snirching Mr. Tiden ne
We want 10 discover the whole truth We want 10 know
whether Presid nt Orton who might be used
for puliucAl purposes know II Mr. OrtOn gave
| after receiving the subpoena y
| Cummittre
Mr. Reed-It Is very proper ask It, as Mr. Orton is
| dead
Mr n & neen ,oine whss a ch,es thi' aer
~ % me- " MAJ he iesnst'hes tbnt We're ~ he ti.d
| were the pmbhshcd despatchcs only Tie resoution
asked for the invesganoiof certain dispatches which
were published and were notorious throughout the land
Instead o ms W. seem To- oe St'lng TO prove ihat
s9usp'S % ver ',,ubic and ~ s,r, ,hai
i've "niv had the desratcnes burned We should have
somethins a. blark on YOU as you have now on US
| That seems to be the duit ot the inyestgauon and
therefore It is that an inclined Ia be critical We were
70 innrsusae puonsnel s 1nn iuasS or con
Me- 1aps IN sbicI they peer ' ''''"' MI" 'S'
| Mr. McMahon-The General is taking very narrow
| view OF IL
| Mr.. IIiscock-No sir avn not Democrats offered the
resolution IN ne ho9~ ihes d'd ~ because ner chief.
~ mih mo- o.e M % HIM is ,s " iG1 e. & oi
nnrty in he ewes of the countrv They did moi orr 70
| Investigate any dispatches that had been burned