New-York tribune., 1879-04-01
i'd be- called to the declaration made by

What DR.. Van Dyke says is true TO my recollection ~
is not ali that Is true DR. Van Dyke, TO my hear
ns and think REroroo can RitnPpsSSs PsSye said in my
ia alleged in this statement. But you cannot. OF
course. stop at this moment 10 try the issue OI IdGI
declare that he ana say that thing, Ir aIu t.c Sa
prove it, # necessary. by vast NUMBER OF W,hesscs
lie NAV MOI have fully approhended the full range Of ms
own mind, intended all that his words conEelSSu;
say and disposition al all 10 disguise the iaco
that this paper has been drawn bY the cuu SCI va t
accr of hs Pfeshytery such declaration as that
understood 10 have been made should DC 'nauo VIII"
INTERRUPTIONS AND CONTRADICTIONS.
Dr. Van Dyke dnterruptingl-Is this offer 10 go upon
your records Mr.. Moderator
Dr. Spear-It is Dr. Talmages address 70 TINS Douy'
and yen can make any disposition OF II you choose
You can lay upon the table, burn 1t up put II on he
records or make any disposition Of IL you choose.
Dr. Van Dyke-I don't propose to allow the counsel
FOR the defence bring in here, under the name OF
protest Dor think the word protest is used therel
paper which is not protest whose only enect can DC
10 iniure a member Of this Presbytery
Dr. Spcar-I discaim that Mr.. Moderator most en-
rhatcally Ii has no design to ujure member OF this
Presb, tery but to yindcac the rights OF party ac
DR.. Van Dyke-very well. Mr.. Moderator, they must
yndcarc the rights OF the accused acc9Idng tcG 40 @
in our book There Is a Way-a very easy way-m ~hch
Dr. spear Gnterruptiug)-Itis is not a protest.
Dr. Van Dyke-Don't the paper say sol
Dr. Spesr-NO, eir.
Or. Van Dykc-Be kind enough TO read the concluding
Mr. Grrcu-The stenocraphcr has the full report of
Dr. Van Dykes speech, and We can ascertain Iom MN
what he
Inc st nosrapher was here directed to read Dr. Van
Dykes speech as delivered on Thursday. March p.
lie sentences speech directly hearing upon the
point ~ dispute were as l0uoNs now, bl ! nave ~
mage and 7he World reporter. do not know what 1t
contains 1 10 nos know whether IT - favorable to
Df. Ia mage or against hu, but te!l you II you
do no. allow TO De brought in aud read here sha
mud IN the Judging this tell YOU sr IN
tend either Dy The consent OF this PrcsbyteTJ or else by
ny own consent to read these interviews ohird E,Sre @
day and rejected. am entitled to h tac and II Dr. TAI
mage the .ness stand shall asa hm The qnes
reports not and bis privilege todecne to answer
him II lie s. vs. no fNrv are not viii believe hlm. Ii
be says YES tcy are will read item and let them nave
their Influence upon NY mlhd'
DIR. VAN DYKES STATEMENT SUSTAINED.
Dr. Van DYKE never asked rhcm to receive II as evil
Geuce The counsel for the prosecution never asked
them receive ii as evidence such word was never
said. IReadngl Receive as evidence certain al
legged interviews between the undersigned and certain
newspaper reporters he would certainly. nevertheless
read such Interviews outside, and let them
have their due weight with him when max
ing III his decision member OF
this court" When making up his decision will ask
Dr. spear If he did not mean by that when making
up my vote upon the guilt innocence of DE- IamaSe
Is not that what II meaus7
Dr. Van Dyke-Wont you bo knd enough TO say
Dr. spcar-I VIII. understood DR.. Van Dyke to say,
ana would affirm tnat he did say H. according to
NV bsst know edge and recoectOn that he would read
these interviews. If Tejec ed, outside aud let them have
their due weight upon him as judge in making up his
decision IN the case
Dr. Van Dyle-That means the final yotel
d.. Van DykcIT did not say any such thing want
know is judgment O this case the same thing as
my vote IN thlo casc2 lLauehter Yes, YOU may laugh,
but stated stmctly in the subsequent part of that
speech the circumstances under which proposed to
Alter considerable discussion between Drs Van Dyke
and Spear. Mr. Crosby, Mr. McCulagh and member Of
the Court. Dr. Spear said have no design or desire
o impeacl the ogy Of any judge of the court, but
feel nal such language as understood Dr. Van Dyke
and rs the s;en"Crdpher has read IN our hear
deserves The consideration of this court ny puI-
Ny purpose is not gained by having man come here
ana mpesch my intrgy as & III GnoTr "I t. nd n
II ou., quietly Withdraw
Dr. Butler moved that this paper be returned to the
counsel for The defence, adding, IN speaking upon hs
motion the following words: The whole course OF
sides has been contrary 10 the spirit of Code.
We here before God. sir, not before the BTo"kBn
people are here 10 defend the character OF one OF
our brethren; not put here as juryme9, but as
judges ANA therefore II Is that what We need Is Simply
he ac;s, IN the simplest form tAat lIey can be squa
by presented, aud al these questions outside are
utterly place and should never have been brought
1HE PROTEST RETURNED AS OUT OF PLACE
M Crosby finally moved amendment TO the
motion of Dr. Wells, to the effect that " the communica
place
DE- Wells suggested this amendment: That the
Prcsbytey, having heard the stcuograpnic report i'll
with the paper presented by the counsel for
the defendant found that they not IN agreement
and that Dr. Van Dykes Interpretation was the true
one"
Dr Spear said "suppose yol insert in this the words
dmproucr and out OF place You have man arraigned
al ,opr bar sir under indictment which stabs him
TO the very heart carries its pointed lance 10
the very and centre OF his moral existence BE asks
You in respectful plea 10 protect bin under crcum
stances which he accepts and which he supposes to DO
Dr. Van DyLe-If believed this paper came simply
from the heart OF Dr. Talmage would Ce Wiling 10
Dr. Tallnage's counsel And know that this was IN
tended 20 be pointed and poisoned lance going TO
tbe ccnirc of my moral beng. My Integrity has been
impeacAcd, and am entitled 10 know, ana VIII know
before with this trial. whether this Presbytery
regards my integrity aS impcached. ,
AT tins point Dr. 1almaEc rose and said
81 asked whether that paper comes from my heaIt
DC Van DyNc-shall ask through you whether Dr.
Talmage wrote that paper on his own motion
DR.. spear-I Will answer thai question: lie DID not.
The question OF the motion amended by DE- Wells
was then nut 10 the housethat the Presbytery
having heard the stenOgraphlc report IN connection
not in agreement and tnat DR. Van Dykes explanation
was thc true one therefore,, 49,. -,
Resoced That the communication he sent back to the
counsel Tor tue defence as out OF place
THIS motion was carried by a vote OF % to o.
A QUAKER WITNESS ON THE STAND.
Henry Dickinson was called by the prosecution The
usual form OF oath being reced aloud by the Moderator
Mr. Dickinson said, That Is not order Of affirmation
l affirm truly. sincerely and correctly, and 10
the best Of my knowledge and belief shall an
swer the questions that shall he put 10 me"
The witness said he was connected with the
Orthodox Society of Friends and q minister in that
society He became connected with The Ch5iStian at
Work in 1874 for some months as treasurer OF the
company when he resigned; then nc was appointed
treasurer again the Spring Of 1876 and remained
until tbs company became extinct.
Mf. CrUsby-Dd any persons ever come 10 you IN re-
gard TO purchasing the paperi A.-They dd.