The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-01-26

at New Orleans: Duncan brought them there
q. Those you did not get somebody else gotf A.
Mr.. McAlahon-who furnished the names of those
who testify A. II l am not mistaken the
names furnished by MIR. Maddox; he had book
similar to that on the table. and saw him taking
MADDOX AZ A WITNESS PRODUCER
@. Maddox furnished the names of witnesses who
would go back ON their former testimony A. Yes.
sir; and Weber knew every man that had given test
mony before the Returning Board and knew every
one who would go back on his testimony.
O. Between the time that Maddox gave these names
to the committee and the time you served Them had
Weber been up the country to those witnesses
A. oh, no: he knew better than to go up there;
he dare not go up there to-day; on my Trip to Bayou
Sara had those few witnesses up stairs, and when
Weber got ON the boat he went right upstairs and
stayed with them until we got to New Orleans, when
they were taken to No IS Cont street and
ont of our sight until they testified; Maddox sup
piled the names and Weber told mo each witness
who would testify right
AIR. Rec,l-I should like to know if the Chairman
has the same understanding have. 1t seems Mad
dox these general instructions as to who might
and Weber gave the specific instructions to
who the witness was to operate on
The Chairman-Q Mr.. Maddox gave you the sub
punas and Weber said You might see and so us to
their testimony? A. He did not say might he said
tell them am here, and they must come; he knew
what they woud say. f3rf
o. With regard to Stewart, was he driven away?
A. Weber told me that they all left st. James at the
same time.
O. Yet Stewart was examined before the Returning
Board and never said he was fugitive?
Mr.. Reed-It might be the witness a fugitive
Board
The witness-Oh. 1 know something about
that business if ever You make an affidavit we call
you and say you must move at once, and then you
have To move.
@. How many of the witnesses did go home?
A, Two of them went back-Armsteai and Baton-
and think Duncan went back Duncan went On
trip aud did not stay more than day; Armstead
stayed there until they drove him away again.
o. Then his testimony before the Returning Board
was Of no to him? A. No. SIR you have it all
wrong: you mean his testimony before the commit
f.u. Il limit IN N
licans that drove him away.
@. You sworc you could guarantee them immunity
from molestaton in the future II they came before
the committee, and yet you did not? A. Yes; it
understood that it they recaed they should go back,
and went to Feliciana and spoke to "a great many
of the leading men there about It, and they said these
witnesses might go back: saw Governor Wickliffe
and Mr. Fisher, and they said if these darkcs would
20 back on their testimony and testify like Weber
they might go back all right.
q. Do you mean to swear to that A. I will
to something else; will tell you how was received
there that night.
The Chairman-I do not want to know how you
received.
The Witness-I guess not
The witness shown that his statement with re-
gard to the date which he served the subp9nas on
Armstead and Duncan did not tally with the state
ment on the record; he replied. 1T does not matter
what the record says; there are great many things
there did not do
ALLEGED DLAcKMAIL1NG DISPATCHES.
Q. Had you any letters from any OF them. A.
nothing in them only few words. The following
telegram was handed to him:-
New ORLEANS, Oct 81.
See W ease settled at once will see he makes such
ms as you wan" Inns matter Ti' 81 ST. MaRTTS
witness--I did not write it, but signed it,
Q. And you got this answer
To s. H. ST MARTIN. New Orleans:
want no statement from " cher. If did would not
S SseSs even " he was '"' nave reason to
A. Yes.
q. Then you sent these kilograms. didn't you E? A.
Weber wrote that, too sir, and signed it,
NEW ORLEANS, Nov 1.
w. sale but those statements you will force
him to make about you and others.
Witness-I sent that but did not write it,
Q. You not good penman? A. No. sir; but
he never wrote any OF those kilograms for me; they
all refer to his
to make? A. Weber was going to recant about that
time
Q. Did you get this
You wasting your telcgraphing threats me-
not buying statements or the silence OF blackmaers
O. Then did you telegraph after that? A. Yes sir:
there telegram after that; that is the did
not produce
Q. Is this IL?
NEW ORLEANS Nov l.
better Ipropoeeto lodge you in the renitenary
where you belong
He knew all about it, and when he me afterward
he asked me to his room. and we took drink to-
gether.
THE SHERMAN LETTER SCHEME.
Q. Tell me what Weber said with regard to the
Sherman letter. A. He said there was some money
to be made out of that letter. and that he would 90
to Washington ard impress all their with the
idea that ne had the letter that he had destroyed
it, and had friend who had witnessed its de-
struction; he asked me to allow him TO
my and state that I had Witnessed
its destruction told him would not consent to it
he went on 10 say if he could not make anything
there he would what he could make the other
side. and If would consent for him to use my name
he would ask Mr. sherman for $4,000 for his testi-
mony and give me $4,000 of il.
y. When did you see him next? A. saw him
when he came back from Washington; he told me he
had seen Mr. Maddox and Mr.. Carter and Mr. Gibson;
he did not say that any Of Sherman's side
had proposed any thing to him: If am
not mistaken 1 think he subpenaed as
a republican witness; after he came back from
Washington he told me partly what done: he
told me Maddox and Carter were following him every
day. but that he would not go upon the stand until
the last moment. because he would not give him the
money; he afterward said that before he went
gave him $1,000; if they had not given
him that he said he should have testified the other
remember it now; remember this. though-he
pulled out $1,000 while he at Donaldsonve
and showed it to me. and said half was for Mrs.
Weber: lie had to give her that he said to keep her
mouth shut.
NEVER KNEW DAMNED THING
Q Did he tell you anything else about the sherman
letter? A.. Yes. sir; he told me he knew a
damned thing about 10. and that Mrs. jerks was
damned fool: went to his sister-iniaws to see If
she knew anything aboutit.
q. You say that Weber was a particular friend of
yours. and yet You refused $1,000 to about the
letter when he asked you? A. Yes. sir.
q. But when Mr.. Gibson. whom you hal never
before. MP and asked you to swear to lie
how came you to do IL? A. Well. that evening was
under the influence of liquor: l was under the in
hucncc of liquor when went on the stand.
@ Then You were drunk: A. | don't know that
straight head AZ have now. would not have gone
the stand at ALL that was how they took it of
me: that is the why cannot remember the
Governor