New-York tribune., 1879-02-06
THE CIPHER INQUIRY.
Con,inu I'd from second Page.

-, tt II don't know that / coIld say that Ii
-,r.a .r. the or -inal would not have any doubt
-, o., NJ. Recdl-Tuorc Is a CERTAIN ntturancss about
,,ression IN IL. isn't thers' A.-You could make
ln... about arv other expression n you "aw NJ
utf,s ou-iuess mcthodi At - Just a> 70 rrad-
te have uor cot cct'ou about 't sud suppose }ou
vsnti y,. ' .aS In MS dspatch Iutend 10 count
out What rs your t'rge1, ~ as 10 @ tne i,t -, ] d, 5n
ne J., .' kp0w II vas the tax there that they Ont
Ia to count Us ouf. and some o. us still believe
.f3f fhey did what they Intended,
Odd lIr. solomon sav whether the hoarc "oWa
liYt vou unless they were ualdi Al "ot
nov that Mr. solomon used tno-" words - me
cn tod me with reference TO the hoard and gave me
,oa.ou wny the board would 90 ms IN h' 'lnon, "nc
.Ia Icportrd reasons thai they gave nm rdolng IT,
a. Ry Mr. ~teuger-Nhat were they Ale -did
NM, .h- "a and NJ they counted Democrats under
... circumstances that he thou-hi 1t would be nm
.rcrr pressure them TO do t. oui hey said mat
tne, would not do u. ~ th"X c"1H De h%,S"t %
I O. ~ H,v yon The d,spsicn no 100 and signed M"l
,,rhs il cufed Columbia. November 49, ana Is III
r,cted ~ Henry Hav never 10 reads ~ iolo~s;
nav Thomas prOup, Eiin6arsn must If river take be
800 lrss London Thames VIII. W.
ITrau-lauoul
II Returning Board can be PTo,nTed absolute N.Y.. "n
p.ompi Thomas. ,..,,
B' Mr. spIUser-Do you rtms1oeT 'nat drpa'tI -lpnat
I-ni the date and the fact thar tie Lrs sum talked or
-.BlOB. have no UNu1l tidl III l- Ht">t'lit'l4'
correctly translated aq1 Don! G"o " naYr "a no i'.'
rrtou mat seIt It, took At Tor granted did' Ss 1t l'
Have YOU no explanation 90 make OF Il other
tiau have made At was u iart Oi THIS same
NJ Weed was iuterrorated further in reg9rd to dis
patch sent % MIN 20 thc tVerei li"ISt "Lcu AdT ci
translated d" Consultation held. Too hte. Board
80 - 400 80 u,sk IL lup,,di,. ly" lie explained
that ~ was 20 : Mead. al hi, dispatches sent
down south to $ Mead. that being MS real name TINS
En@wiHg an about t. H. nd not remelnoer receiving
dispatch OF thu, KIND He received dispatches as king
received any dispatch asking for $4,000 be thought
Yr wed va, asked about other dispatches Of which
Ae could give "a pldna ton eeaaSr he o n" Ig'1i
mH-o,ndcni recollection OF any OF these dispatches ana
t3at the negotiation that B.. spoken of iu some
ot tu-m according 10 tu- translation Ia IRE lAl8 NJ
was udcrtak-a oy YOU anc vent 30 lar A. 10 tr5'1
5oas, 5ecals- me parties here in New-Yurk refused
O.. furnish the money! A.-Ih"rc was 70 propo- non,
and f.t proposition was sUumitred mere TO Ncw-Aork
ileccvrd Jr grams winch are puoI~hed and winch We
have spoken oi which construed to Doe an assent z"
teu and pursuance OF thdt assent and mat pIopg'-
Non pIrtc- came d" hl'lnof ana tHth t'"IN u. W. W.
I.po--lbr 90 carry IL on, aua tlel were aosou'eiy de-
Q--Be airt.5 more explicit whea YOU say The propo-
sl..ou -uDmittr here o. NeC-Aok. A-oHnn..iro
T..t uss the oI.t sn mi, ion ~ any shape.
Nr Hi5ccs 'na%"S nai or" a, Ila[ u '.g
sca.cmbcrrd ab.on,c Petersburg" We have Aad that
Nr Hlntoa-We S.li turn the witness over 20 You two
Vr F.ri-r.e order of prorcedin-, i. nor material
There are few points would {e 10 9-k about
t.-luu ycJ came down to Ne"-l .ia iu u'cd.'1ct
r.r; dd not received j. a; r'att-Du&
S-iio1 did gau I.a9r.l 10 com. down theul Al
have Office here and have ao office or Pat sHut2
.1"i6 % no frT lection I cane 10 nv Ee,,-Y ai
received at uy NrV-l uia otic. flc communications.
You have no ido,i Al cn', say tna', sir.
have an Iita it was Lom % d. .ri",u person. 90
t-I-t lbs savr it. A-It wa. rIIutr nom Nc Hewitt
,r Nr. AntTa VS. O. Mr .lto4; ta'nk ron Potion.
Q-You saw you went dow. ana me, som. gen emen
puf,uancc Of ina, notice. doat know whether ir Was
.cudlu- boy me- uat IL was. Isopped IN tnere
Q-Aud a- result Of the interview had there you
s.rf,d Tor south Ca-olual A.-Ies. sir; that nsht.
Q.-Witua clyherl A.-Wtha cipher.
FABULOUS OEGIN OF IuF CIfHE
Q-wno gave tnat cipuer TO You? A.-Ihu I can't
o.. you definitely; th.uk II was Pc-on.
Cant vou tCl definitely Who gave this Cphcr %
you; you must have lau some talk about itt A.-N';
ul wait moment: come % fhlh about u aout fh.lk
anybody gave uc ,uc cipher; tHuA haIi before
Q-Na-re dId YOU g.t itt Al mad used DC before
.ug.u- tlr campaign considerable
o-Wuoa. Won -cti. from At originally came
s..tu the National Committee; lD.rk nom Fciuu
4-l5t ,''.,,,I ,'' ',I rtG ,t'Gt.rI 4 vi f,.r .,,' Ii.,' "
q-Le, d, have cA,c.IJ what you 90 Say A.-You
Iuy-.L
o-Y.u-.yit was thc National Democratic c, mint
fr.e.p-,rt Al sal -otIt t-on tle Nation" Dem
-p-ton VS. Actin secretary At" Has.
&-lou 20. it nom lue ac.in4 secretary o.. ,he N'-
to.a Dymocraoc Committee Al iAInh -id. -
Odd You aaoW WHO c-" Idd jhe clpAtIt Al .'d
u.l know. except DO e ueri way MOI OF uN owl p'-
Q-i1, us nv i- in . general way. A.-You have It
.- ....i a- DO.
g-toy.c had i.2 A.-Someoody ~ Florida badIt;
d -How ci1 You know cove HalIt' Al sew itin
tht papers isa~ some c'Ihcrs winch "pi cared go Zoe
Q-D.1 you -rud any communication - FIouat} \
ul... .T..ts
Q-ro waomt A-I' Plrrs.
U-Iuaf lu tnl- rpu.rt A.-No, sr.
Did you send any communication to anybody tri
o-Yog -ay You .at ii- cipher at ,ne Everett, House.
Al tlina now It WAS cipher Asd .ac.
Q-Iney tod you imp 20 H. tle ciphe' vou had
y-D5vo re,o,lect that You had much talk with the
maa w4O told you 20 l-e The cipuer. A-NOt on that
Q-Dd you nave any conversation with hun in regard
ID lao. r,hPr A--No.
Nome whaie,ert A.-Ouly vnat have given.
G-NootAer er-ltou ,Gcr p' the az GA. gopher
,uu have used duTin< he campaign 8-II~t Was the
O-rAe u.,icrs;andug must nave arisru from >on.,-
fuug. b" kua euoI-l to STATE what tle understanding
.-,,c iroml Al Aay, said cOu.1 mob SAY Wneth,r
cad Will Us" the up-rI have sOi oI whether f.'n
q-Lther your saving or ms saving so wAsa. that
.I- ..It! A.-iLat was all.
Q-Your.co lpct no,ulug else about 1t. Al don't
q-Vuerc ID YOU use the CIPHER during the cam
Fusu: Al used t 10 OAo during The ot'"hcf t'c
Q-Y u then oorrcspondel with Colonel p~ltou in
f.at clfutr Al ."iut II1tr 20 NitH 0''H .i'
dispatches cogrtsp0uCec with the committee, ana
lr.uu knew ~ tile tuIlc~i itOHdrncr
ft-Dl4 you send tucm o. AtVrnc}rr. A-No' sill
l-Dui.t reading these dts patches rrtrr~ your WnH
tu1, 500. were told 10 whom 10 send them Al Was
f..t t0 send tli.I 60 N.yrmryor.
p-NHo tolu you tlatl Al think y was PriIou.
.-Nuu 4lu have d further conversation NlcL Pet %
i,r Indicated thlr you were 10 send them to Id'
Ut}tri A.-ru1. II waaj told sou.
Q-uayr yo1 uo otne: 4ccolIrtuoul Al have 40
t.tu.,cjiou all. lie gave me hdYsm'}vTs adj
tr-->.
q-lG villa, shape t.d Won have TINS c.p-ori Was n
was % >l,.eC ~ ptp,ri Al was "u