New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-12-28

the Fusiopists did not intend to submit to the VIII
of the people. He also learned afterwaTd many OF
the details of one branch of the plot In CONVEX
sation with a CORES ,oudent If THE TRIBUNE TO-
day he related his experiences IN Maine ana MaSsa-
chusetfs INST after the Maine election. and II APP
pears no. only that the plot formed before the
result of the voting was known, hut that The funds
that were needed 90 carry 10 into execution were
raised in New-York and Dost N. The conversation
was rs follows:
"Yon sav YOU we're in Maine at the time of the
election and btforeW
Yes SIR. / went 20 Milne with Secretary Sher
man when h opened the campaign. and remained
there UNIT the day after the vote was cast
when was the result of the election ascer-
taiaed!'
"About 3 o'clock on the afternoon of the 9th of
Sep'cmhes.'
"Wna' was thar result as ascertaned"
at gave both branches of the Legislature TO the
Republicans
Did you see any prominent Democrats in Au-
gus;a on that day"
"Y.s. About o'clock on the afternoon of the
9th went to Mr.. Eben +. Pillsbury's Office in Au-
gusta, and saw gentleman with whom he was IN
consultation, who was introduced to me prOmi-
pent attorney of that state. but whose name do
not now recall. Ibelieve Mr. PillSbuTy told me
that hc had prominently connected with the
polite. Of the State and, think, had been a men,
Der of Congress"
For what purpose did you call on Mr.. Pills
bury r
AS newspaper correspondent, to ascertain how
he felt over the result Of the election. We talked
freely about the contest. aud he expressed himself
as very much disappointed ~ the defeat of the Flu
souisfs He said that the feeling then that II
would be useless to make any further contest for
the control Of the State money and other methods
OF corfnpting and controlling the votes were used
by the Republicans anu the free expression of The
Will of the people could not be obtained
Did he then intimate TO sssstss-tac Republic
cans would not be allowed to enjoy the fruits Of the
victory r.
While the CONVEX. alton going on between
MI Phl-burv aud myself. the other gentleman pres
ent said that the end was not yet. lie
declared that the Governor and the Com
ell had the power to canvass the returns.
and in language more forebe than elegant,
said nat they would d. So. Mr. Pilsbury az once
cautioned his a>sociaic' iciilns nun 'h"' 4 W.
Journalist and would prHt whatever was said az the
Interview. then asked both Mr. PillShnfN ana ms
friend what powers the Gov rnur and Coancn hid
as "a Returning Board. M. Piil>'ury. smiling, sand
that c dl not ear 10 lalk about pau men ana c.
pecial Win me. The attorney VINO was WIN MN
was more communicative and SAID Oh, Governor
ard Come D.. under the laws nad ample power To
inquire INTO amy allegations ID uiNu ana 10 WIN,
hold certificates from those returned as elected
where sufficient evidence ol the Use OF money or Oh
iuiiplilli on could bc obtained. aud repeated. with
some emphasis. that they wonlt mos' aSsnredY do
so in this instance. While Nr fiil,burr was not
80 eup'a .ic his associate, hc gave quiet acqnes
ccnrc n i, views. a'i The ltue cautioning tim that
lie WIS O. Itlc TO hr quoted.
Dld yoa Sc ans of the state officers of Maine
Ye~. rad previously called upon Governor Gar
ceon to ascertain his views IN relation 10 IL power
intimated dat the Tu,ionlsts We're asserting that
the Governor aud Council had arbitrary powers IA
determiuu1 ihe r..ction Of members of Tie Legs-
"Were you convinced by yonr conversal;on
with Democratic and Fusion Leaders ON thr day
after the election th@4 thr NoFtlnoI anu O9nuclI
would resolve Themselves Lto "a Returning Board
and 80 manipulate the returns as 10 get control Of
fn,y iri, me- NJ room ioY conjecture as TO what
thor course would be-. ! was firmly convinced then
that u was their intention. il necessary 10 20 be-
hind the returns and exercise all the powers of
Eeurmng Board. 50 strongly was 4 convinced OF
Blame and told him If my conclusions q OF lac
statements which hal been made 10 me that alter
noon Mr. Blame seemed somewhat amused, and
SAID II was the die talk OF disappointed men, and
that he did not think he was putting the case too
strongly m saving that they wonid not dare {" do
"Hsd vnu before the election received anv init
nations from FusaOnist leaders OF plot to over
turn the Republican maJo.itN II there Should Dc
"Gc.. had several times beard it asserted that
unless the Republican majority was very large an
attempt would be made 10 MUMMY TIE result Vi the
election.
TIE FRAUD MACHINERY PUT INTO OPERATION.
How soon after tie election was II known on
believed IN Maine tll' me Governor ana OOullC4L
would lend themselves g. The fraud"
Il cannot tell the exact number Of days. ] left
Maine on the evening OF the 10Th of September,
and did not return again until after The Worcester
conventions which were held on the 17th 18th
and 10Th Of September. When did return found
that the Democratic machinery FOR the discovery
of alleged fraud allIn operation. / also learned
that the Governors Council could be relied upon TO
carry out the plan Indicated in the interview which
had had with Mr. Pillsbury and his associate the
day after tue election and that detectives were
already Oh the ground collecting evidence in close
countic-.upon which the Governor and Council were
cxuecicd 10 ac;. renamed III Maine only short
time and then returned 10 Massachusetts again. and
communicated all that Lad learned to Senator
Blame, who was then in tie West. The character
OF his reply showed that he stli had fear Of the
success of The plot
AFTER Your return To- Massachusett, did You lie IN
anytliu- further in regard to the plans Of the Flu
sonist,.
"Idid"
"Wherc, when and how E"
I'm Boston, about the 1st Of October, met a
gentleman blSncw intimately. who told me that the
Fusionists would certainly capture the State Of
Maine"
'Who this gentlemanr
'iIc was an influential Democrat. My inquiries
were of confidential character, and | prefer not
TO reveal his name"
did he give you any details Of the plans of the
FusIonisis"
eyes sir
"What were theyi'
He told me wbatI already kncw-that there was
movement on foot 10 upset the Maine election,
and that a conference had been held ia Boston for