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 One day l walked into the office of Gen. Schurz. Secretary of the In-ll terior. 4 lit'le cluster of gentle then had been waiting for him, among them Postmaster Hayes, of St. Louis, aud Huntington, Vice. President of the Central Pacific Railroad The latter head made himself scarce very soon. l had no .ime to talk to Schurz on any other question than the transfer of the Indian Bureau from the Interior to the Var Department. At the mo- ment the Secretary hadremrned from | making a speech or statement before the Special Committee of Congress. Said |:
 General, are the military officers really desirons of adding the Indian Bureau to their other responsiblli- 1 nes "
 They are perfectly crazy on the subject, :" said Schurz.
 Why don't you let them have 1t then, and be rid of a burdensome and ,hankless Job '"
 Because l don't believe that the pubhc interests will be subaerved by that transfer. The relations of the War Department with the Indians have seldom been matters of good example. They moved the Chero- kees frem Georgia to the Arkansas, and it IS a matter of record that 1t cost 7 .000, ,000,-the most fragrant expenditure in our history. That was considerably more than S100 head, although the transfer was com paratiyely easy, down the Tennessee river aad Ohio, and down the Mis- sissippi and Up the Arkansas. The soldier IS a cavalier by avoeation. He spends money without any of the sense of economy which civil officers feel. "
 General, 2 said I. 'sI used to be of the opinion when I paid some at sention to this subject, that the army dG better for the Indians than the politicians and agents gp
 Il know that view is held by very many, said the Secretary, "bus I don't thlnk 1t arises from a correct knowledge of the facts. Now, there is a notion abroad that nearly all the Indian wars arse from defalcations Or swindles by the Indian Agents. That Is not true at all. Almost all tue Indian wars sprang out of the encroachments of whites upon the Indians country, and out of the lm- perfect execution of treaties fre- quently occurring through she inad- Yertance or ill-timed parsimony of Congress. The Sioux war of 1852 '54, for example, which n its dlf- ferant reviyals and connnuances cost fifty millions of dollars. arose from stealing one COW. The Indians found the COW rowing out of a herd and killed 1t to make a meal There were a good many of them engaged in 1t, and It was no very great of- fense and not committed in the spirit of mischief. The military overlook the Indians and demanded the COW !; as the COW was in the stomachs of a score CT more of them, they natural Y replied We have no COW Then we want the man who took the CON. " said the officer. There was no nan lndlyidually who bad done that thing. The military tben at- tempted to arrest the Indians, aad q Bkirmish and loss of Iife ensned which cost the GoTefnmeur fifty mil lions
 Have you been wedding out the Indian Agents who were. here before you came into office, Mr. Secretary.''
 '.Yes. Out of 270 l have kept about oue-half or more" (Proba- bly 1 have the figures wrong here
 "Mr. Secretary, is t your decided belief that the true meth5d to deal Klih the Indians Is to keep on at the sleweE process of teaching them in- dusmies, agriculture, and arts ''
 '.Thar is the only respectable and the cheapest method we can adopt. It has been a success often in ex-
 irene cases It used to be said that the Apaches, for example. were too wild to go to work. Nevertheless they have quietly settled down, ai present raising crops and giving us no trouble. The old tribes IT Ehe Indian Territory are not only in- dustrious, but, in many cases, rich