The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1879-11-13
Some OF sne Dreadful Things when
senator Carpenter, OF Wisconsin,
Snas ss, the sim Distance. f

IRON an Interview In the Washington Republican,
Mr. Carpenter There are six senators
who hold over until the Forty-eighth Con.
oress. who now as Democrats represent
Ren,iblican States, or States that soon VIII
he. They are Senators Grover and Slater.
NJ Oregon: Farley, of California; Davis
him as OF The Opposition), OF IL
Iinois: Pendleton, Of Ohio; and McPber-
SON. Of New jersey. The death, resi!gna-
tion. or removal from the Senate from
any cause of any one OF these Would
be followed by the election OF Repubii,,
can successor. II such casualty should
occur and Senator Kellogg should be re-
tanned in his seat, the election OF Repupii-
ran senators to the Forty-seyenth congress
in Ohio, Pennsylvania. Connecticut IN
diana, New Jersey, and New YORK, TO sue
coed Senators Thurman, Wallace, Eaton,
Menonald, Randolph, and Herman, would
Give the Republicans a bare working ma
ioritv. even If Judge Davis should not act
with them, The Democrats, as 1t now ap-
pears, will gain only one senator Dy the
elections OF 1SS1-the successor to senator
Bruce, OF MisSissipp-athough there IS
bare possibility that Senator McDonaid may
either succeed himself OF be succeeded by
another Of his own party.
These are close calculallonS.
Senator Carpenter: Yes; but not 100
close, in view Of the gravity OF the political
situation. ! have been led, with others, 10
look into these possible contingencies while
considering Senator KcIlogg's case, now
pepding before the Committee on PrFi-
ieees and elections. OF course our Demo-
cratic friends have calculated all these
chances, and we should do the same. It's
always well to measure the strength ana
the motives Of your adversary In such a
contest as this one over MI. heliogs's SEAL
and there's no better way OF Judging the
motives OF the Democracy in this instance
than to inquire into their partisan necessl-
ties as viewed from their own standpoint.
Looking at the matter in this light, anu also
in the light OF the contingencies l have al
iuded to. they may go ahead, sooner or
later, with an attempt to unseat him.
Reporter: You remarked the other day
that General Grant, if nominated, would be
elected?
Senator Carpenter: Yes, that's what L
said, and might have added that, II elect
ed, be will be inaugurated.
What do YOU mean BY that remark?
Senator Carpenter: Exactly what I say.
He'll be inaueuratad, despite the efforts that
may be made to prevent It. I'm mol an
alarmst, and don't want to be reported as
such. But see am in for it with you, and
I might as we'll 60 on with prediction that
I've often made Of late. 1t is that the De-
mocrats will protest against the count OF the
electoral votes uf some one or more OF our
Republican States when the two houses
meet in Joint convention for that duty
in February, 1881. They will base their pro-
test upon what they will alIege to have been
an unconstitutional exercise OF Federal
power in the execution of the national cleo
tion laws. They may take California for
this purpose, or New York, or Pennsyl-
yania, or any State wherein the slightest
pretence. real or manufactured for the ex-
press object, may be furnished. Then the
two houses will separate, and one or both
will sustain the protest. The vote OF that
State will be thrown out, and it will be de-
clared that there was no election, ana the
House will assume to elect President.
And then what will happen?
Senator Carpenter We'll, the preliminary
arrangements for that emergency will be
made i'm the House, the same as they are
attempting to make them in the Senate by
unseating Mr.. Kellogg, so that the Demo.
cratic nominee for President will be elected
under the form and color of law. One step
has already been taken in the House in this
direction by the unseatine Of Mr.. Blsbee, OF
Florida, and the seating OF Mr.. Hull IN his
place. This gives the vote of Florida, on
vote of States, to the Democrats, so that the
House now stands on such vote nineteen
Democratic States to nineteen Republican
Statcs-countiDg the Indiana GreenbacS
member with the Opposition. But in that
far-off December session, when the Hell
logg case will probably be acted upon,
and when all such action will be no longer
influential upon any coming election, they
NAV unseat MIR. Orth, OF Indiana. or some
other Republican. The decision OF the
contests in these cases Of adversely TO the
present occupants would give their seats tc
Democratic contestants and insure Demo
cratic majority by States in the House.
And YOU really believe these predictions
may be realized?
. Senator Carpenter: Yes; that's the way
TO put it.. They may be realized. don'i
say they will be, but they may be. And in
view of that possibility it is the part OF
wisdom to take them into careful consider.