The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-07

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20 I1Rla you think it was superior to Mr..
| Odd you think i was superior to that OF
any one OF tho MY lending Democrats OF tho
! Q.-And you want the country and this Com
| mittco to- believe that you. on your own rcepon
/ sihility, undertook 10 consummate these three.
| " say the least i"giimate transactions inyoly
/ ing your uncle and his being made President
! Of the United Statcs-thnt you on your own re-
I sponsibilIty and judgment undertook TO do this
! without consulting single Lending Democrat
/ IN the city Of New York. or consulting that same
unclef A.-As | said before the proposition
! O. tnterrupiingl- You did all this without
consultation with my leading Democrat or
! Q,-Mr Pciton, where dill you expect to get
| the - 900 to replace To- Mr.. Gordon Al cN-
! poct'd Il to Oa raised 10y some member OF tho
Q-yon rad no money to peeyyh2 ,A-Noi
! Q.-lOu wcrc not worth 5000 in the world nj
! that tmo? A.-Well. l had not $1,000 to pay at
QI..@-You knew that Mr.. Gordon advanced that
money upon the credi Of your being the nephew
| OF your unco2 A-No.
DO you believe he would ever have ad-
| vnnced one dollar Of il except for the conildcn-
| tial relations in which you stood with the Gov
! crnorY Al told you had some talk with Mr..
Odd Mr. Scott advise You to do this thing ?
! A.-Mr. Scott had some talk with Gordon about
| O.-Do you mean to say that Mr.. Scott told YOU
| he would rpiso this money for youy Al don't
! know whether he told me 50 or not know no
sQ.-fou swear that you and Gordon and Mr..
I Scott had acQnyersation together upon the sub
| Ject2 Al do.
Q-WhereY Al merely give that as an
.Q.-0h. 4 is shaded down to an opinion now.
! bid not Mr. Gordon swear that he advanced
member that he dd
! Q.-pon't you know that he did advance IL
| upon your credit2 A.-No. | do not
| Q.-lou asked him to do it and he did IT,.
D w o. ~ cd IN not 1 lNuf
! money! A.-One idea had was to got it from
ODD yoa believe that Scott would nay IS 600
| 70 make Mr. Tilden PresidcntY Al don't
! know about that.
,Q--icu don't think he would Al don't
! Q-Do you swear that you were willing to
! procure $4,000 from Mr. Gordon. in fact. TO per-
! Q-Here we find YOU going to bnnk. and.
| urOn the iuith VI your being Col peton. getting
security other than that YOU cxpe ted TO get Il
! from somebody. II the thing was a success: or
whether II was or not, didn't you expect TO get
! 1t from MIR. Scott
Q.-When you say You expected that Mr. Scott
was wi ling to chip in that ss 600 To buy AN clcc-
! tor for Mr. Tilden, don't you think you are do
ing that man little inIusticeY
The Chairman think you arc doing n little
injustice in putting that question. have not
heard the witness say one word about buying
Mr.. His,ock-He spoke Of n transaction. then,
that he was afraid his uncle might think was
Mr.. Iiscock TO witncssl-You think. thon.
! that Mr. scott would have been willing to put
that iny A-1ou have asked me that question
twice. | did not say that | said | considered
1t likely that he would DO able to raise the
money himself
Q.-looking tnck over these transactions
| then. and as nobody stood back of you in refer
Cnce To any one VI them does IL not look as N
| you were taking very irresponsible and UNI
Mr. Springer-I object to that manner OF OK
animation. never heard m attorney in court
| INSISTING mat witness shal pass Judgment
Mr.. His ,ock--lt does seem 70 me worry remark
| able that Col. Potion should not be- willing TO
submit his conduct to 50 capable Judge as Col.
| Potion.
Mr.. sprlnger-Your questions were inten-
| tionally offensive 10 the witness, and insisting
| that b, should answer Yes " or " No" to them.
! aud d. not believe that YOU yourself approve
OF that line OF examination.
Mr.. Eeed-How do you expect to got through
with thus Investigation without asking some
MI Springer am taking TO Mr.. Hiscock
now. You are always coming in at the wrong
Mr.. Reed-ITere are certain gentlemen ne
| cused OF certain transactions not entirely COM
mend hle-transa'tlons for the condemnation
OF which we have the high authority Of Gov.
| Tillen. Now. how are we going 10 cct through
| with tho examination Of these gentlemen with
! out saying something offensive to them | do
question.
Dir. Springer-You are insisting TINT the wit
ness SHAH answer Yes or No" and
Mr.. Reed Your objection was that the ques-
| ton was offensive.
3lr Sprngcr-You asked tho witness to pass
! sulsmrut upon his own conduct.
Mr., His"ock-Mhonryer the minority OF this
! Committed shall put with. ~ upon tho stand
! who viii stand VI and uubuslin.ly procHim
! himself guilty OF these three frauds there shall
be- no Objection on our side TO any question
/ which you may put On him. We shall surrender
! him to your tender mcrcies and may God have
| mercy On his soul. Laughter
| Mr.. SprinEer-Iou are still inclined TO lecture
u aud preach SERMONS.
mo CAairman-Lct, this conversation cease
and lcl rs 20 on with the examination.
| Mr. Hiscock-A trst-rHte idea.
! Mr., Ntcnger-lou seem to have forgotten tho
| testimony. You asked TIE Witness II To- did not
/ know that Gordon had sworn that he had nj
yan.cd this money upon his tpeltonsl rro IT..
| testimony ON that point ircadingl.
| Q.-bid under taud you Ia say that there
! was a fund provided out OF which that money
! would be- repaid Al had such an under
| standing the previous evening.
| Own wnom A.-With w. /. Scott |
| tnnk those arn his initials. Ito Is ono OF the
| members % tie Committee