Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1879-02-07

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quire g to whether or not there was any news
from Marble, but he never read single tele-
gram lp relation to negotiations for the pur-
chase qf the returning board.
@. Now tell US the exact words of your
| uncle.f A. cannot say. All know ia that
doing.k
Q. Then your uncle and Mr.. Cooper dsap-
proved of your plans from q moral point of
view. NJ. Cooper was treasurer Of the Ma
| tionai Democratic committee was he not? A.
he was. but as to his morality cannot say.
o.. did the word Russia" mean Mr.. Tilden?
A. guess so.
@. Did you present the telegram reading,
''Tell Russia to saddle Blackstone" to your
unclep A. Inever did.
@. Did he understand what Bolivia Laura"
meant. A.. He did not In fact he never saw
any OF these kilograms. Blackstone was the
namesof horse owned by Mr.. Tilden. That's
all know about it.
@. This was suggestion that Mr.. Tilden
shOulH take some gentle exercise? A. I sup
pose5se.
@. These people, in Louisiana, Florida and
south Carolina depended upon your doing
whatyou have shown you could not do. In
other words, you led them to believe you had
somebody behind you and whatever you did
would be sanctioned, and any contracts made
would be faithfully carried out2 A. That is
about it.
O.. Did you intend, if Cooper favored your
plans to obtain sixty or eighty thousand dol
lara from the Democratic committee? A. I
did.
O. Do you make any difference between
buying an elector and buying returning
boards? A. do. There is a great differ
ence.
Witness said he had not seen Marble since
last August.
To Hiscock-I do not now reside with Gov.
lllden. Have not lived in Grammarcy park
since last August. When secretary to Gov.
Illden witness was looked upon as his accred-
tied agent
@, Look at the cipher. Does it not contain
arbitrary words, some meaning thousands and
others hundreds? A. 1t does.
@ Explain this. A. I have no explanation
to give.
9. Is it not fact that you betrayed your
could raise $4,000 or $4,000? A. I don't
know that there was any betrayal.
q. Why did you tell Cooper not to mention
the matter to your uncle? A. Because the
Governor had no knowledge of this transaction,
whatever, and if he did he would have
stopped it.
Questionable you not entirely dependent
upon your uncle?
MIR. Springer objected on the ground that
the question was offensive. Some argument
ensued in the course of which Reed suggested
that just as the committee were eliciting infor-
Auat1ou AIOm Witness Cno democrats objected.
The chairman remarked-Let me be explicit.
Democrats had nothing to do with this beyond
getting at the truth.
Mr.. Hsc0ck remarked he was not satisfied
with the answers of witness and intended to
make him give proper ones.
Question by Hiscock-About this election?
A. Yes it was stolen and wrongfuliy disposed
Of Applause.
The chairman remarked if this applause was
repeated he should order the room to be
cleared.
O., Did you consider the proposition t,
purchase returning board honest? A. do
not think this a fair question.
q; Did you not understand money expended
in elections were to carry elections? A. can't
remember. You have already insulted me by
your questions, and wish you would refrain
from it.
4Hiscock-I have not insulted you either in
word or meaning; am seeking for the truth,
and mean to have it. Do you want the country
to believe that without consulting any leading
Democrat, or your uncle, you took upon your
self to make those contracts involving large
amount of money, whereas you have not dol
lar? A: You are getting offensive again.
@. Well, we will see. Don't be particular to
shade. You got $4,000 from Mr.. Jordan, who
has already testified before the Senate commit
tee. Did you expect to get this money from
your uncle? A. I did not.
@. Then from whom did you expect to get
-sA2FA A. From MIR. Scott.
Z. Seeing that Gov. Tildan was not to give
yon the money, did you not know you were
guilty of an unjust act, to say the least, dis
honesty? A. think nothing of the kind.
MIR. Hiscock said he intended to examine the
witness more fully, and would insist on every
question coming under the rule being an
sWered.
MIR. Stenger-I have been passive so far. Now
let me say you shall get all the answers you
want.
Mr.. Reed-That is exactly the object of the
committee, the truth and nothing but the
truth. Receas.