The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-13

which she'll decide this question "''"' '''''
Yours ailecuonatelN T. nS WIN Tu~Aat
DE- Talmagc emphatcally denied that ne
Know uat thc church debt prOrer independent
OF the Lay College debt. was SOS 900 nn, that n
nuEgsstlon was made to raise 500 900. 1t
Would nave impressed his nina He didn't ~.
menbrr Tint ne had talked with Mr. Gclston
ndnWt mo difference between the statement OF
S93OuO debt. and OF 500 OUO Hc tclerrnphed To
Jno T. Talnagc about tho debt. and IA" idrnti.
urd the following MS the kilograms which passed
between them. Tho reply Of MI. John +. Tai
given:
iTclcsam'
To roin r,',oq, Epsr. H,, 2,@,l. ''' 'V 100
or o, Som9,iY aTitaed shout foreclosure Fever
thousand doiirs S"l it oG' the .enc. ,hrcc other.
The wa',r WI rot be unicrtake@ i, !. ,enishi or
never Nohns unless all debt church ani college For
'''''' T. "" Ds WIT Wit Fsirian
u,,r r,,,,... r.,..,,.. irooKlrS. Jan 80 1873
win YOU and Mr. Hobbs allow me To pledge YOU each
YOU privately The iiicrccc tctwccn vonr sabscriptons
and hve mousand' telegraph immediaisly
ANSWER Of John u Tamagc to above tcleersmsl
BALTIMORE, Jan 80 isTa
Cannot permit dc course suggested Fr,nkncss earn.
e'ucs ami iaih without dcccrton, will command sue
u. 10y rttralh aenin ns u hbs ana sell are used
JouS = TAtxAGx
Mr.. Morris offered tho kilograms to test the
credihility Of the witness. lie claimed that no
had right 10 show any dishonest transaction
during his lie. and could 40 over his whole
lite 10 necessary. DR.. Tamnge smiled broadly.
The Tahcrnucle's counsel said that they would
not object 10 the materiality of the testimony.
Judge R'ynolds-l don't say. whether tho
transaction Is sound in morals. 1t don't belong
To- this cgsr.
Tho subscription card Of Mrs. Singer WINS
handed TO DR.. Tulmagc, and he was asked TO
cNplaln, tho memorandum. For terms see
u" think she hold $1,000 bond. which she
was To- give up said Dr. ralmage. " never
heard that she was to have n free scat ia the
church rs long rs she lived in consideration 81
tho subscription. | think the terms We're the
surrender OF that bond. | can't positively say
TINT. the memorandum IL in my writing. /
thi,nk II Is II IS poor enough To- he. ,.-.,..
about an alleged bargain between Mr. Elmorn
and DIR. Talmage ma to the formers $4,000 sub
scription. and the same ruling covered the
offers IN rcgnrd 20 the subscription OF Mr.. Sill
cooks DR.. Tucker. and others.
Christian Vii NJ uorb sri3 Mr.. M"rris VII" inc
" le@. sir. left there two or three years ngo
last October. | lelt It early in thc week. DO
Hnilerk." said nr. TalmaGe
Tho defendants COUNSEL here objected. and
the Court stopped the examination
" Had YOU entered into an arrangement before
you left the Christian al York to connect your
sclt with the Adrdsce". urged Mr., Morris.
ChTisiGp at Work Office in the evening 10 TO
the press room and stop the paper. and have
part OF the form taken out and insert letter an
houncing tho seycrance Of Your connection
with thr paper and the advertisement of tho
lnruucps'
" Now this must stop" shouted Mr.. Tcnney.
I'm ready to 20 to Jail IL need be-. hut | wont
stand here and see Justice abused in this way.
Judge Reynolds raped for silence. and tho
officers Threatened 90 put out two or three per-
| sons. Mr.. T'nney said that 1t WAS a little too
credibihty Of tho witness. Il was designed
for the. public said he. why didn't they
Then why didn't you meet it falrly?" de-
mnnd"d Mr.. Morris.
| They were written by Dr. TamaGe and ident-
fled, hut they were ruled out promptly by the
Court without being read. the Judge saying
that the Court had some rights that should DO
-, dont remember that over wrote letter
asking 10 have my salary raised continued
Or. InlmaEe II WAS talked over frequently
among us was not at the meeting ut which
my .larv was raised. On May 26 | subscribed
$1,000. Ncar the termination Of the same meet
ing q proposition was made TO relieve me OF
the 81 900. Six or seven persons then made up
my su9scrntion: Later in the evening | sub
scrihcd another 81 900"
Benjamin Burroughs n young member OF the
Tabernacle. testified that he had copied into the
| subscription book the subscription OF A. b.
Proctor. Il was for $500. He didn't know. he
said on crosse aminaton. that Mr. Proctor
wis poor day lahorer unable to pay my such
amount. and that he had really subscribed oul Y
| -. llr hadn't heard the testimony. he snid. oi
! Mr. Nelson liamblin. thu treasurer. that tho
! surprised when Lawyer Norris. holding uptw0
! books showed that in Tho pledge book Mr.
J lfNior uuu subscribed 80, ana tnNt me- ltno
! witno-sl had HIM down as subscribing $500 IN
! tn subs 'ripiinn book;
| When Mr.. Nelson HRmbln. the Treasurer
WIS recalled. no cXcitodly said That he would not
! have his character ns.ailed. H. had not trsti-
ned that Mr., Proctor had paid $500; III 60 to
| Jail" he said. hut what I'll defend my chRrn'-
! ter The counsel referred To the stan ngraph-
| er's notes. Mr.. Norrross. the stenographer
! CHANGING down uage Of the previous iny's tr--
| umony, said that he saw 4. h. Proctor paid
A. asked the eounselin breathless excitement
! The stenographcr turned over his pages and
! anuodn'ed Nelson Hnmblin." The witness
! famed red and ms sted on making an explana.
| ton. which was that he read the name and
| amount from q book which was handed 90 him
| and uoI from the book in which his own entries
| Were made.
The DEFENDANTS counsel proved by tho wit
moss thar the church had received 1911 from tht
sale Of an organ. Mr.. Norris then drew ont the
testimony that tho Tabernacle owed sli6.5O To- a
! music denlrr who took his pay out oi tae sh'
| Of the instrument. Well. we'll have TO ado
| SliG50 70 the deht.' said Mr.. Morris.
The defendants counsel then sought to prove
arrcArhges OF pew rents rs part OF tho sum on
hand 10 pay the debit hut the Court would moi
permit lt. Then the subscription list. NJ II was
| takcn on Feb H. was offered In evidence
! Judge Reynolds said that the difficulty in the
| case was 10 show whether tho suhscri ptlon-
| were valid as some Of them were 10y mHrrisj
| women, ami some 10y classes OF the SUNDAY
! school. How were they proved vnlid2 A sun
/ day school class could not Doe sued. The sub
scriptions must be proved collectible. IT, Hskc,
! the defendants counsel IL they depended or
/ these class and women 5 suhscrl utl0us 10 make
up the amount Of the debt. This was admitted
! Tho plaintiff : lawyers said that they coult
and then they could not make up tho who'll
| amount Of the debt hy many thousands. judge
Reynolds said that he would decide upon tn
validity Of these subscriptions this morning.