New-York tribune., 1879-02-06
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stopped at Baltimore.
Q-How long did you remain therel Al remained
there from the time OF the arrival of the train
3 or O'Clock in the morning. until The evening train
that came to this city.
Q-And on that train you to this cityi A.
Yes sir
Q.-Tel us, please, whether you had any connection
with or knowledge of the cipher dispatches. sJ-caed
published in THE NEw-YORK TRIBUNE, ami II you had
any such connection knowledge please tell the
mittee all about L. beg 10 say. sir, that have tho
original dispatches here Probably you NAV want 20
refer TO them. and II so we will the bundle. Al
had cipher, sir when left here and teegraphed IN
that cipher from North Carolina and from south
Carolina both may state that when / lsft had no
intention to visit South Carolina Ny mission was
mission entirely North Carolina. That what sup
posed when LETT here.
The witness az this point expressed desire IN cOnsu5
his memoranda regard 10 the kilograms and
ceived in North Carolina but Mr. Reed again OBJ
iected
The witness-Mr Chairman. OF course do not want
20 override any OF your rules and propose 10 I've
erned entirely by your determinations. but transso
tons OF this kind It must be apparent to any gentleman
who wants to get fair statement that will have 70
give some thought 10 H. After received your telegram
Yesterday did prepare memorandum OF nv trip,
simply the purpose OF bringing H. IN connected
shape That II the memorandum nav" before me, aud
II seems 20 NE but falrlt being 90 ong a-o and tho
facts having passed entirely out ~ uy mind. cxceps
tue main features, that should have right 20 refer
20 u.
Mr Reed said that he thought it would b, better FOR
the Committee to coDdue ITSELF to what the vluess's
recollectOns were IN regard 20 the circumstance.
Mr. springer-I cannot objection 70 the witness
making his statements IN his own way.
WHAT WAS DONE N THE CA2ouyAS.
The witness proceeding said-H you VII allow me,
Mr. Chairman, will premise by saving In reference %
these dispatches that destroyed my L soon after
came back, or before came back. do nOt remember
when; and destroyed the dispatches also, that
have Of Judging the accuracy u the printed
dispatches published in TBIRUSE. son!e OF them
am certain not correctly printed. some know are
not correctly translated, aud many Others gree SUBJ
startiay with my recollection OF the facts
as they transpTed Now, with your permission,
viii 90 back to answer the question. lett
here for Raleigh with expectation ~ going anywhere
else but that state. left here for the reasons known
here-rumored here-that em,saTies had been by
Republicans 20 that state. telegram hld been sent %
General Cox Chairman OF the state Commtte, OF tha5
STATE, that the way he had on q ged rooms
FOR me and met me on my arrival told him ny 1usi-
and he said that General Fitzpatrick had been there
with others for day or two and had requested the Re-
turning Board, who Republicans, they informed
me, that the must be gwen for Hayes that tho
Canvassing Board had informed Fitzpatrick thar tho
Legislature met in two weeks that there q two-
third Democratic majority IN both branches and they
did they would be lmpeached in two Lours and they
would not do it. and therefore legraphcd % New
York the situation directed my dispatches 10 Henry
Havemcyer and stated in these dispatches in substance
that not neededthat nobody needed IN North
Caroline. and think mentioned that would coma
home. I cot dispatch from somebody in New-Yors
asking 20 to Columbia :. C. I got thar dispatch
sunday morning and on sunday afternoon took Tho
first train for Columbia While vas az Raj, sn was
called upon ana met by number OF gentlemen living
in tnat State some OF whom had known before and
some OF whom was introduced TO. appeared there in
hotel in my name, did not register in the name ot
Thomas Keith as stated IN some Of the New-ioTk
papers, nor in any other name except in mY own f1u
name found Out afterward that had been followed
by an employe Of the Post Office Department,
who said that I had registered in the
OF Thomas Keith. His Edward Webster a. I
he resides did reside in Brooklyn, but 10 not know
whether he does now. He is in the department. and
have been informed There telegram sent To- Ih.
Scc-TO5k Times saying had registered under the name
OF Thomas Keith say this because IL has been stated
time and again that vas travelling under assumed
name. found ut Columbia when I reached there a
large number Of people OF both political parties With
whom very well acquainted. and who knew
very well. / a hotel there and registered NY
name. While there met other gentlemen from home,
and members of the Legislature did not know any
members OF that House Governor Hampton and Others
called and went with them before the Returning Boasd
and IN the courts. Ihad no ueeotia ions directly With
the CAnvassng Board OF South Carolina. But after
reaching south Carolina, and IN fact on the train before
got there informed that the CinvJs.in Board Of
that state while admitting privately that the sIte had
gone for the Democratic electors or the Democratic
ticket said that they would not give the certificate 20
the Democrats for the reason that number - them
were candidates for Office at the election and thai
their determination IN favor Of the Democrats would
count themselves out. unless they were paid forlt
Nj Hiscock-I think II would be well, Mr. chairman
il the witness would give the sources Of a Information
as he gOes along
The Wituess-I am able TO give you that. Rumor.
were very thick whore got these and cannot give VOC
the names Of every particular person. The Information
got upon the train from gentlemen in the seat
n front OF me, strangers ONE. who were talking over
md made that statement. saw one OF them there
afferward but do not remember lis name heard an
inquiry whether there could b3 auv money furnished.
Fully believing then what believe TO have pen -inee
demonstrated, that the Democrats had carried two al
least Of the three disputed states and that racy
had been formed by the other side 10 count
us ont; that il the vote Of south Carolina was
cast IN favor " the Democratic electors
a. believed had been honestly cast by the pie the
matter would bc end, and they would not pretend
10 take either Louisiana Florida II they lust south
Carolna-they had TO have all 20 con-ummate their
cnds-I determined To what there H. and tcle
graphed to Ncw-York asking II money could he FUR
nished.
The Charman-Can you refer 70 that telegram now .
Al cannot possibly Nr. Chairman might possibly
recognize r. II the Telegram. There number
on that subject that have published IN that hook
in Mr. Reeds hlnds. tRccUng 10 rgIBuSE CIPHER
Extra do not know whether they an there or NOT.
propose give the bones Of this arrangement 20 the
committee. suppose that s what you're after rather
than the fact OF whether the dispatches correct
not Iteegraphed to New-Y0rk 10 hud ont, and d.
patches passed backwards and forward, TIC subject
PRICE OF SOUTH CAEOLINA's VOTE.
Mr. Il.cOck-TO whom
The WiW"ss-Henry Hayemever. I viii state hero
that FAR recoliect, all the dispatches thai sens
TO the North while there were directed t0 h,m But
.undrv dxpltches were sent backward. and furwardF