Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1879-01-03

making Parson Ingraham. Chaplain. That
practice had baen kept up for years. He had
made an estimate of the amount paid for
chaplains last year, and found that if they
had 40 prayers, the State paid $3.50 piece
for them He thought the House needed the
prayers of all; but it would take something
besides PRAYERS to save it,
The order was indefinitely postponed.
Mr.. DrckrY of TT. Kent. presented the
following
Ordered That the Clerk of the House he
directed To furnish to each representative and
officer of the House, and Chaplain, one copy
of the National Democrat and one other dai-
~ paper published in this State such AS each
representative and officer may select.
Mr.. DIcKEY stated that he should have in
troduccd an order to furnish the morning and
evening papers of the city. had not the Sen
ate chosen to exclude the Democrat from the
order they had passed
Mr.. PICKARp of Bangor. moved to amend
the order by adding the words, ito be paid
for by members receiving them"
Mr.. JoNEs of Lewiston, moved to amend
by inserting after the words, National Dem
! ocrat," the words, "or kcnncbcc Journal.
The Democrat was an evening paper. and
some of the members might desire the Jour
nal, which is issued in the morning
Mr.. BRowN of Bangor nothing in the
order conflicting with the amendment.
Mr.. IorNG of Brunswick. saw no necessity
for the passage of any order if members were
to pay for their newspapers. He did not be-
lieve this body had any power to make him
take the National Democrat and pay for il.
and if they had they could not make him read
it unless he wanted To. The amendment pro
posed bv the gentleman from Bangor, PICK
ARID while perfectly correct in spirit, multi
fled the whole effect of the order. and he did
not think il worth while to spend further time
upon it.
Mr.. WILSON of Thomaston liked the joke of
the gentleman from Bangor. (Pckartl for
as such he supposed il had been intended.
The gentleman has had his Joke, and now the
House had better come tn business. Mem
beers are not SO well paid but that they could
follow the usage of 10 or ~ years in furnish
ing themselves a daily paper containinga report
otthc proceedings at the expense ottle tax pay
ers. He did pot believethe people wanted mem
beers to stay here and maintain fire To warn
themselves ut their own expense. Neither
did he believe that they desired members to pa,
for their new spaper containing report of the
proceeding. He had been in favor of taking
the two dailics published here. according To
usage And Notwithstanding the action OF
the Senate. he was willing to vote for the two
papers; but he would not propose an amend
ment of that kind. He was content with the
order AS introduced without amendment.
Mr.. PICARD of Bangor, disclaimed any in
tention of a Joke in Offering his amendent
He thought it more of a Joke to go TO the State
treasury for money to pay for members news
papers. In Is when he was here no such thing
was thought of. But in 1850 he found great i'm
provements. and an order was introduced that
the State furnish newspapers. He. at that
time, voted against it, and paid for his own
papers. He came here this wear deter
mined to vote no appropriation which was not
actually necessary.
Mr., DrcKEY of Fl Kent. said he had in
troduced the order reluctantly. from the fact
that he wanted both newspapers. II was a
part of the duty of the members to take the
journal containing the proceedings in a more
extended form than the journal of the House.
1t was great convenience and from his expe-
rence he had no desire To go through the ses-
sion without it. He wanted both papers and
was willing to accept the amendment of the
gentleman from Lewiston. (Jones.) He be-
lieved that the National Democrat would not
exist one week if the order did not pass. And
under those circumstances he believed it for
the interest of the Union National party. of
the Democratic party, as well as the Republic
can party to take the two papers.
( Mr.. CrRRAN of Calais. had little personal
interest in the matter. He preferred to read
both papers and could paw for them He dis
liked to hear the argument that if the order
was not passed somebody's paper not
going to be in existence in week from now.
Such arguments should not be brought up in
/ legislative bodies. The ground on which the
Kennebec Journal has been here in the past
has not been that it was necessary to keep the
paper alive. hut that il was necessary for the
members On that ground he was willing to
vote to have any paper furnished. The sala-
~ was too small for tax payers to expect
members to pay for their papers containing
legislative proceedings. He cared nothing
about it personally; but he trusted that this
era of reform and retrenchment was not to
be choked off by pushing orders through the
/ House on the ground that somebody's party
or certain papers were going to die out
/ Mr.. RITcHIE of Winterport, called for the
yeas and nays
Mr.. DIckEY explained that he had mi>un-
derstood the import of the amendment of the
gentleman from Lewiston (Jones) and would
not accept it.
Mr.. LOCKE of Portland. moved to amend so
as 10 have the National Democrat and the
/ Daily kcnnebec journal, which was accepted
by Mr.. Dickey.
The amendment offered by Mr. PIcKARD
was rejected
Mr.. LOCKE of Portland. then renewed his
offer TO amend, by adding the Kennebec
journal.
Mr.. BRowN of Bangor. opposed the amend
ment. 1t limited members to taking the two
Dailies of this city at the expense of the State.
He might wish instead to have the two dali
les printed in his city. Other gentlemen
might wish the papers of their locality.
Mr.. JONES of Lewiston, said the amend
ment he proposed was that members should
receive one paper printed in this city, and any
other paper in the State which they might
choose.
Mr.. LOCKE of Portland believed in re-
trenchment, but he also believed it the duty
of the House to know what it had done. In
the haste of business, measures would pass un-
challenged. If wrong, they could be correct
ed when attention was called to them. as i,
would be by the report of the proceedings.
He thought the House would be justified by
the people in possessing itself of this means
of information.
Mr.. BRowN of Bangor, said it was very well
to know what was done by the House and he
proposed to be here and know personally
what was going on, and not trust to anybody =
newspaper. He had on his desk the Bangor
Daily Commercial and the kennebec Joua,