The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-08-14
Robineon's Machine Rapidly
Giving Place to 1t.
THE DEMOCRATIC CANVASS.
Tilden Stronger than His Fa-
vOrite Candidate.

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this subject published in the HERALD has tended to
much discussion of the subject here and that
publication genuine "boom" has developed
have men from almost all the central and vest
counties and talked with them on democratic
prospects. While there is decided Discrimination
at this time among politicians generally to record
strong opinions announce preferences in the mat
ter of candidates. have found many who speak
of the Secretary of State not only
available but desirable candidate. Since the shock
of the Westbrook decision it is decidedly difficult to
find any who has any opinion at all concerning
the probable action of the Convention. Strong Til
den and Robinson men. initiating the party organ,
the Argus silent and will say not word on any
political subject The plan Of the Tilden- Robinson
faction is to utterly ignore the late decision and to
contemplate affairs as though it had been rem
dered. AS yet not q line has been printed in the
Argus concerning this decision. and this fact coupled
with the Governors remark II have not read the
decision. and don't intend to- leads to the be-
lief that the plan adopted when such
reverse anticipated is still to be carried out
The whip cracked by the Governor Saturday has
been obeyed, and have sought in vain Tilden
leader who knows anything about the document.
They have all heard Of it. though. Heard of it?
Yes; but then. you know. life is short to read all
that stuff" They don't mean that life is too short
they mean that the time until the State Committee
meets is too short to rearrange the cards. and the
old hand must be played out. Some one has sug-
gested that the old hand Is already played out.
THE BASIS OF THE 'BOoM"
This being the q deal is necessary. and
many heretofore doubtful gentlemen are strong in
the belief that Mr.. Beach will be the winner. The
friends of Mr. Beach. it would appear. did not need
Westbrook decision to awaken their attention to
the fact that the Secretary available man,
and. while no bargaining has been done, care has
been taken Of this leaders strength. It has been
nursed and fostered by judicious friends until now
he appears as very strong man. Being man who
inspires enthusiastic friendships among almost all
who in contact with him, 1t is not strange that
now, when he is spoken OF as candidate, hundreds
found to support the pretensions put forth for
| him. Every meets who favors MIR. Beach
has different why he should be nominated,
| and most Of them are cogent reasons he would
seem to be strong in more points than one. He has
always been regarded man possessing strong
elements of leadership. and it is claimed that he
never was faction man, but always democrat.
| thus showing his mental balance and personal
strength Much talk to this effect having lately been
INDUCED in sought a gentleman here who is well
| informed the public sentiment in Central and
| Western New York. but who is much more in
terested in several other gentlemen named for
| concerning the several 'booms' in operation.
| The Robinson "boom" and the Dorsheimer "boom''
he discusses in detail. several weeks ago. he tells
me. he found that Robinson was not near as strong
| as he represented to be. Among the country
leaders the Governors conduct toward the New York
| democracy known, and 1t had been intimated
that upon consideration would that large and in
fuential class countenance denomination What
was made known to the general public by Mr.. Kelly,
! in an interview with HERALD reporter. was no
| news to many influential democrats throughout the
State. much being said, it is easy believe that
the Robinson 'boom" found much opposition in
it's early stages. am assured that - early As the
| adjournment of the Legislature the leaders, know
ing the ill feeling between the New York democracy
and tie Governor, resolutely discountenanced any
thing that might look like committa to the polit.
cal fortunes OF the Executive Raines in the Senate
| and number of members OF the Assembly who sup
ported Robinson during the session. were of course
committed, but their enthusiasm not sufficient.
when they got home. to leAven with excitement the
| whole of their people.
My informant, having long ago ascertained this
much expressed surprise that the fact had not
been made known through the independent press.
! The Robinson organs made assertions congenial to
their hopes and the opposition, instead OF investi
shsm with denials unfortiaed by any specc data
Thus the bloom grew, gradually crowding out Of
notice other possibilities much more reasonable
than Robinsons denomination l asked this gentle
man IL he did not find that Mr.. Tilden's influence n
cined many to favor Mr.. Robinson's renomina.
-Yes" said he. II found that to be the case. Mr.
! Tilden is much stronger man than Mr. Robinson
| in this State. and while many would vote for him
they don't propose to be dictated to as to anybody
"rhen you think il Ex-Governor Tilden took the
HERALDs advice and himself for Governor he
"That he would be elected there can be no doubt
He would have all of Robinson's strength. The
New York county democracy, though they would
not like him. could not deny him support ana
in h9 Kings Kings county, whero the DorsheimeT
boom has just been started: If he
State by good round majority. OF course he will
not consent. and some else will be thought or"
DoRsHEIMER's CHANCES.
''Weu how about Dorsheimer?"
'The Lieutenant Governor is very unpopular in
his home. Buffalo. and. in fact. In that whole sec
popularity here is an element OF weakness abroad.
Much capital has been made by Governor Robinson
| by his opposition to the new Capitol ap.
| preparations. Now, Dorshemer, having stood
sponsor for the commission in its demands
on the public treasury has not gained
!
State Albany all things considered. is not first
class factor III State election As have said, he
is weak in the extreme western part OF the State.
! and l have strong doubts about his reported
strens tn in New York and Kings. l. of course can
not speak with the confidence ncerning these
localities of those l have mentioned, but 1t
seems to me that some of the claims set
up for him spurious. For instance, can
not think that the people of New York
city, State for that matter will forget
whom he offended here, and for the life OF me
can't see how the unterrifed will forgive him that
famous Fourth OF July Grafton at Tanmany Hail.
| One claim made in his favor. and one in which it
seems to me there Is some reason, Is that he VIII
consolidate the German vote of New York city. This
i can readily understand. for, In the first place. he
| is of German blood, and again, he has always been
in favor Of an excise law that would meet the views
| OF this class OF people. But this again. like the
cause of his Albany popularity, would be an element
of weakness in the temperance strongholds. lem
perance, however, being anything but democrat
icism, this suggestion IN ight as well be dsregarded
BEACH THE MAN.
'You have succeeded in demolishing at least two
! idols Now, from all you know of the objections to
candidates spoken Of you augur who will BIO the
| man.
THAT would be risky business. To mention
names is at all times hazardous. Tho party IL full
of available men. ana am inclined to think that
some who has not been spoken Of will be nom
mated. cannot think that any delegations will go
to the Convention pledged. 1t critical period for
the party, and think that. the Robinson boom
being collapsed. all who attend will do In spirit
of harmony. II you had asked me what manner of
would have been much less difficult. Admit
ting that the conditions / have supposed pre-
| vail at the Convention, man who Is
natural leader will come to the front. Tho machine
of course, will ende tvor to work, but 1t will not
work with that Rightly that has marked II in the
past The man who gets the support of the CON
! vention must be one who is not suspected of too
intimate relations with either Tden lammany."
III that test is applied it will require Dogenes
! to ind q candidate.
"No there are such men, and plenty of them, In
the party.
mot engaged In political lifcy"