Daily globe., 1879-04-07
THE BROOKLYN BEAN-GARDEN.


Asa Extraordinary Scene in the BROOKLYN
Presbytery Engaged in the Trial of Tai
mage.
New York Special (April 4) to Chicago Tri-
bune.
There was some excitement to-day among
the Presbyters who are making such farce
of the Talmage trial. I. w. Hathaway, whose
name has been mentioned almost as often as
DR.. Talmages, in connection with the trial,
gave some extraordinary testimony against
the defendant, and created a sensation. His
assertion that DR.. Talmage told him DR..
Vandyke was notorious liar" although it
elected burst of laughter, had different
effect upon DR.. Vandyke, who, after coloring
high, relapsed into a fit of mental abstrac-
ton, from which he did not arouse sufficient
| ly to take any part in the subsequent pro-
ceedings.
DR.. Talmage made an extraordinary scene
by springing to his feet while Mr.. Hathaway
was testifying, and declaring the witness was
swearing to ''the biggest pack of falsehoods
he ever heard" Among the Rev. Mr.. Hath
away's statements which created sensation
We re these:
II was an elder in Brooklyn Tabernacle;
of 1874 to collect pew-rent and assign pews.
was to visit tho congregation, both in a
financial and spiritual capacity. My in
structions were not to rent the pews for less
than the prices marked on the diagram,
but to get as much more as
could. have heard DR.. Talmage an
nounce from the pulpit that pews were rent
ed without reference to the dollar question
that he would not yield to the solicitation of
the trustees to rent the pews. cannot say
l was ever told to order any one out of pew
Influence was sometimes brought to bear on
pew holders who were not paying enough to
make them either change seats or pay
more.'
After giving the details about his treat
ment by the Tabernacle Sunday school and
the contradictory statements of the Revs.
Talmage and Vandyke, the witness said
81 told DIR. Talmage should demand an
investigation. I went to see DR.. Vandyke,
and asked him whether he told DR.. Talmage
I gave him the facts for his article. He said,
ssNo, sir; I never did tell him SO, but DR..
Talmage, Hathaway, is man you can place
no confidence in, and is defaulter in the
Tabernacle's funds.' I told DIR. Talmage
what DR.. Vandyke said. He denied having
called me a defaulter said that DR.. Vandyke
!
asked him to go to DR.. Vandyke's with me
and he said; I will not go with you. lido no
want to see DR.. Vandyke until the judgmen
day. Told him should bring the matter
before the presbytery. He said: Hathaway
I never knew you to tell an untruth, but DR.
Vandyke is notorious liar. Laughter.
You can't afford to bring this matter befor
tho presbytery. If you do we will turn OF
you and kill YOU I defed him. He said
whether we can find anything against 20,
or not, there are men that will swear ther
, is.' DR.. Talmage seemed very much excite,
, when he said that DR.. Vandyke was no
torious iar.''
Mr.. Talmage, rising, amid much excite
ment said:
"Mr. Moderator, am ready to show th
truth of everything have said in regard t
this man; and, after this process has beel
8 going on in maligning my character, it
: strange these brethren get so tenderly deli
cate of mans character. Having assaile
: me before the country day after day, in re
gard to this mans stating things I never did
! never heard of, never dreamed of, the big
gest pack of falsehoods I ever hearc
: and then am to have n
opportunity of showing have some chara,
: ter. I would like to know, at this poin
. making defense. protest, in the name
.. God, that this presbytery have no right
'' shut down the gates, having opened them
, allow all this contumely and falsehood,
: the most infernal character, to pour upon n
soul, and now to say I shall make +
answer. will be heard, if not in th
T. court, then in some other.' [Applause.
DIR. Butler-Br other Talmage-
> Mr.. Talmage-I have the floor. Don
t, call me friend or brother, if you pleas
d stretching out his arm and shaking bis har
n at DR.. Butler.) I would like to know, M
i Moderator, whether we are to be heard, {
g whether we are to have an opportunity
y defense, or whether witness can assail n
n character and I not have an opportunity
d replying. Applause.
= Mr.. Butler-Mr. Moderator, move tina
1T hereafter the Presbytery sit with Close
If doors. Kisses.
r, After an exciting discussion of this que
n ton, without settlement. the Presbytery AZ
d journed.
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