Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1879-08-04
rHE ST PAUL DAILY GLOBE MONDAY MORNING. AUGusT 1870

ING. AUGUST 4, 1879.
AND BLAINE.
Authentic Account of an Interview Be-
tween the Two Statesmen at Portland
A Terrible Row.
New York World.
PORTLAND, July 3d. The visitof Secretary
sherman to Maine has been attended with
unlooked-for results. Concerning his inter-
view with Senator Blaine nothing has been
published save brief item in the evening
papers which says, "Messrs Sherman and
Blaine had long confidential conversation
At the treble house to. day, on the subject of
this years campaign It is in my power
to give the readers of The World some
particulars as to this important confer
ence. The two eminent statesmen. I need
hardly say, are not on the best of terms.
Each has Presidential ambitions. Blaine il
dlsgusted because while he was away speak
ing IN the West last year he lost his own
state, and Sherman's visit this year puts him
IN decidedly awkward position. If Maine
should 60 Republican the fact will inure to
onerman,s benefit, because his friends will
say, "Ihe secretary carried it after Blaine
mad lost it, : and so Mr.. Sherman's presence
IS about as welcome as that of 9 cat in
game OF tenpins. To my interview, how
ever.
When the two great statesmen had locked
the door and hung hat over the key hole
luckily they did not look under the sofa
Mr. sherman began the conversation.
We'll, Blaine he said, GIVE come M to
maui you out of the pit, as the Book SAYS
"Oh, thanks said the Senator warmly /:
appreciate your kindness considering the
way things look in Ohio"
"Ohio is all safe,'' said the secretary.
wlnclng slightly /; 'Maine is what We must
see to first, for if anything happens to YOU
in September, what'u become of me In Or
tober I've brought upa thirteen-colnmn
speech that I think will kinder knock the
boys.'' $50 ->''001> w
''There's nothing like it, said Blaine.
contemplatively. ''Morton once told me-
that he owed his success in Indiana 10 mt
ting out platform three or four feet lone
full OF words like shegemony,' sinterde.
pendent 'eleemosynary, and SO on: then
by tho time that his party had spelled ont
and digested the eight Introductory resoln-
tions about the United States being nation.
etc. haying had begun and there was ma
time to find out what the platform really
meant I hope you've got plenty of fipures
IN lt.hgures is what people cry for this
year."
Between us" said the secretary confiden.
tially' there has been little demoraliza
ton in the treasury, between putting through
THIS last assessment and preparing for the new
examinations under the civil-service- reform
system, and SO I've to paste in The Times
tables OF the election frauds of 1876; but
they do. The footings will show the pro.
Press and results of resumption. however,
"Good enough said the Senator, applaud
ingly; "but hope you go TOR the South?''
Don't you be afraid. There were some
little difficulties in the argument, but / thinb
! have got round 'em nicely. Frinstance
how do you like this passage: up till 1874
the Democratic party remained in the mi
nority in the House. How unmindful it was
of the constitutional duties and privileges Of
an opposition party need not remind you.
When, however, the grand old Republican
party went into opposition, and set itself tc
expose and combat the extravaganza of the
majority, what did we see? From 1884, 3O4,-
787.O8 the appropriations dropped steadily
to $177,37O,62781, to 1920, 943.53, to
$153,544, 745.56.' Here there should be
some applause marked intend me your
pencil. Doesn't that strike you as good
making the economy of the Democrats
praise us? And the remainder of that econ.
omy we will denounce for starving the gov
ernment."
'Capital, egad!'' said the Senator; "I own
I wasn't quite clear in my mind how you
were going to get round the fact that the
moment the Democrats got control of the
House the appropriations came down. Well
go on.''
''There was another snag in my PATH
said the secretary, with chuckle, but ]
guess I got round it all right. / allude to
the fact that while you and the rest of the
boys have been bowling aloud that under
Democratic supremacy the country was 60
ing to the dogs have been refunding the
debt. It is little curious that as soon
as the Senate became Democratic confidence
became restored, and the moment
the extra session was called and the unre.
pentant rebels began to overturn the gov
eminent money was invested in national Sc
cureties by hundreds of millions. Now ]
shall show in my speech tonight, first, that
the coincidence of national confidence and
prosperity with Democratic ascendency is
due to the fact that people see that the
De mocrats do not deserve trust, and that
they will be hurled from power some of these
generations; secondly, that the flow of
money into the treasury indicates the paraly-
sis of all legitimate business and trade, ow-
ing to the presence at Washington of the
confederate brigadiers You see that this
line Of argument resembles the com tran
which was set to catch the stcoon going or
coming
"That is a remarkably good idea,'' said
Mr.. Blaine, "and am glad to see that you
sock it to the confederate brigadiers. Have
you anything more about the solid South p
"Lots, lots" said Mr.. Sherman gleefully.
"You remember Conkling's argument about
the small amount contributed to the federal
treasury by the South? Conkling's an ass.
but still there's something in the idea, and
intend to adopt it and show that inasmuch
as the people of the South appear on the re-
turns as paying small proportion of the
customs duties and internal revenue taxes
they should not be allowed so large repre-
sentation in the government. OF course the
argument is idiotic, because the consumers
pay the duty, though the importer or manu-
facturer hands it over to the government;
still it'll do. It'll satisfy those who don't
know any better, and those who do will
keep quiet
"But, I say, Sherman said Mr.. Blaine,
warmly, "this won't do at all. That is a two
edged sword which sewers the wrong joints
and marrow. For instance, here are the re-
turns of customs receipts for 1877, which
show that in Maine we collected 1867 200 SO,
or on an average. So cents per head of popu-
lation. Now in Florida, in the same year,