The Leavenworth weekly times., 1879-07-03

:. with the word, IL is reasonable
conclude that the thousands of LeavenwoIt
e. people who have known him Tor years woul
l. be interested in reading wnat he has to sa
!. about It. When approached upon the sui
Al jsct few days ago, Mr.. Mackay refused I
y state anything about the affair for publics
n ton, saying that IL was intended to Re
I, strictly private matter, and that h.
Z as a guest at the house OF Colonel Eatcl
p on the occasion referred to, would not feel 8
r liberty TO speak of what transpired withou
first obtaining the Colonel's permission. II
the meantime accounts OF the affair wer
| gwen to the public, and Col. Eaton stateC
that he had no objection to Col. Mackay Civ
| ing a statement for publication, hence wher
! our reporter found him yesterday mornin.
r he was perfectly willing TO converse freely
$ on the sut ject. He commenced by statins
that, as our readers know, this was nc
} new thing to him. He has been perSuIng the
r investigation OF the subject OF spiritual
manifestations for years past, and has re.
ceIved proof upon proof of the
reality of spirit communication, and
materisliz8 alton, all of such positive and
conclusive character that IL would be impos-
sible to resist the conclusion, above stated, OF
the truth and reality OF the matter.
Ia regard to the Pierce Erton marriage, he
said he had been aware for some time that
such an affair was on the tspis, and that pre-
ptra'iOns We're being made for the OCCASION
| After short conversation, substantial v as
reported above. the following interview took
| place:
heporter-Was our account Of the matter,
as published in TIE TINES o: Wednesday
| morning, correct?
| COL M-Yes; as Col. Eaton says IN his
communication which you pub ish this
morning, it was substantially correct, in
| the main, but it cont,i one or two errors.
| Rep.-Plesse state what they We're.
| Col. M-Well, first, you said that Dr.
| Dooey was in the cabinet with Mr.. Mott dur
| ing the naturalization. This was an error.
| Dooley, myself, and others were in the cabi-
| net durin. the day, to help to magnetic it,
but at the time the demonstrations took
| place there was nobody inside but Mott. All
| the rest of us were seated around the room,
| in full view of each other, and the cabinet
door was locked.
| Rep-Did Mott bring the cabinet with him
| or superintend its construction?
| Col. M.-No; " was not the usual spiritual
cabinet, but simply Mrs. Eaton's pantry,
with hole cut in the door. Mott never saw
IL tlll he was taken into IL for the seance. and
did not know Ill that time, where he was 10
sit There were no fixed up arrangements or
| machinery aboutit-simply the pantry with
Rep-Where was Mrs. Mott at the time the
materis liZatiOn was going or?
Col M-she was seated in the room with
the rest of the company, by the side of Mrs.
Markay. believe.
Rep What time In the night was 1t?
Col. M.-It was not in the night at all, but
at high noon, on one of the brightest days of
the year. The blinds were closed to keen the
sunshine out. but IL was light enough TO see
distinctly everything in the room.
Rep.-Did the bride and groom come out of
the cabinet?
Col. M-No. But they presented themselves
at the aperture of the cabinet and all the
guests saw them distinctly and conversed
with them.
Rcp-Did you, or any of the others present,
at any time, see two forms IN the cabinet at
once, during the time that you say Mott was
in there alonee
Col. M.-Yes. frequently; and at one time
We saw three persons in the cabinet AT once,
and while they were in sight, and convers-
ing with those on the outside. We could dis
tInctly hear my little boy, running all
around, inside, and ringing bell.
Rcp.-Do you know that Mott In his
place in the cabinet. AZ that time"
Col. M-Yes; / could not see him, hut sat
close to the partition and could distinctly
hear his heavy breathing. az the same time
the three forms We're In sight, and the bell |
ringing all around the cabinet.
RCP.-The boy referred to is your little son, |
who died a few wears ago"
Col. M.-Yes. He has been frequently seen |
an J cOnNtrStl WIN, Dy nlNSti1 ana MS |
mother. We saw him and talked with him |
on this occasion.
Rep.-Do you think II possible You could !
have been deceived"
COL. Mo. Even IL it were posi- bIe for |
Mott to personate three peo ole at the same
time, all talking at once, ii would not be IS |
sibe for him TO personate a little boy so per-
fectly ns To deceive his own parents.
Rep.-Did you see any Others-that Is. any |
other sptiits-on the occasion referred to?
Col. M-Yes, several. The most of Them |
Were personal friends; two or three were per- |
sons known TO the Leavenworth public. Ex-
Governor shannon appeared very distinctly, |
him for some time.
Rcp.-Were there any others "
Col. M-Yes; Judge Mayo appeared, and |
Ia ked freely.
Rep Did he give you any in formation in /
regt- TO the manner OF his death"
Col Mot on this occasion, but he told /
me All about 1t at another time, when / met /
him at MoitiS.
Rsp-How did he say his death occurred: :
COL Nile was on his way to Olney; Ill,
aS You are aware, To attend to some import
ant business IN connection with the bank
there, in which he WAS interested. 1t was
very important tu certain parties that he |
should not appear there, and he tells me that
three men from that place got on the train
on which he was-they got on at three differ
ent points-one at st Lcuis aod the other
two before reaching that point. As the train
went on TO the fig bridge at st. Louis, the
Judge says he went from the car in whish me
had been sitting, into the forward
ear, for the purpose OF taking n smoke; he |
sat down ana lit his cigar, but remembering
that he had lett certain small articles in
his seat which might be stolen when the |
train reached the station al the east end of
the bridge, he started back TO get them. The
train was by this time well on its way across,
and as he opened the car door he cOu see
the thousands of lights in the city: this,
with the great river beneath, and the mann
moth structure upon which they were cross
ing, made very impressive scene,
and he thought he would stand upon the plat
form for a feV moments and enjoy the view.
to- a of no fnprt tn l
out, and had been there only long enough to
take one puff of his cigar, when the brake
man, 10y sudden and violent push. sent him
of the car into the terrible yawning gulf be
'Ow. In the fall one leg and one arm Were
broken, and his necK was dislocated.
Rep interest had the brakeman in
th- matter:
Col. M-None, further than the fact that he
was hired TO assassinate him, by the three
men above named.
Bep.-Did he give you a description OF these
parties?
Col. M-Yes; he described them so partic-
ularly that think should recognize them. |
He talked 10 me at length on this occasion,
and upon matters by which could not have
failed to recognize him, even II hadn't seen
business matters, and among other things
directed me to deliver a Ine.sage 10 Mr.. T.. |
Clark, which did.
Rep.-Cau you name any Others known to
the Leavenworth peop e that you saw"
Col. NJ don't think OF any others now, |
except Dan. smith. l saw and conversed
with him on recent visit to Mr.. Mott, at
Memphis. He came with great deal of
demon stration, and talked with a great deal
of vigOr.
Rep-Did he have anything TO say about
the circumstances OF the affair which result
ed in his death
Gel. N.-Ies; ne talked the whole matter
over AT considerable length.
Rep What did he have TO say about II ::
Col. Nj don't think ii would he prudent
while the trial is pending, further than to
say that he desired certain OF his friends 10
come and see him.
Rep.-Can you name anv others who were
seen at Col. Eaton's, and who were known TO
the Leavenworth people?
Col. NJ don't call TO mind any Others at |
present, that your readers would be interested
in. At one time during the occasion, two
men, unknown to ALI the company, presented
themselves at the same time. One of them
WAS a large and unusually fne-loOking man,
and arrayed in priestly robes. They did not
give their names, but this one was supposed |
In be Emanuel S~edenbors. by whom the
ceremony was performed.
ReP-Was the ceremony performed here
that is. at Colonel Eston's house,
Col M-No. The ceremony was performed
In the spirit world, but the company was
present at Col. Eatons during the time II
was going on, and the who'e affair was de- I
scribed to us in full by TIE spirits present
at that time correspond with the description
which Coz. Eaton has since received from q
medium in New York:
Col. M-Co.Onel Eaton had an arrange
ment with the medium referred 20, in New |
York, TO observe the affair carefully, from {
that point, during the tune 1t was in pro-
gression, and report the same 10 him, with all
the details that could be obtained. This re-
port the Colonel has since received. have {
read II once carefully, and l find that it ac- |
CORDS perfectly, IN every particular, with the
te>cr ptions given 10 US here, at the same |
time; and both represent It a. having been .
q Very grand affair.
in New YORK, and spirit talking
t. yo1 in Leavenwortn, could both see the