The New York herald., 1879-12-24

NEW lOfIA
is confined to no particular province or county. but
takes in the whole island It Is bad in the north
every part of the country because every lrshnan
in America has a relative or friend IN Ireland.
NOT PRACTICAL.
of having commercial depots for the sale of Ameri-
can meat and produce established in Irish ports
and delivered there direct from TINS country thus
avoiding the expense OF reshipment from Liver
II hardly think it would succeed. The people who
eat meat in Ireland afford to pay for it, and those
who cant must put MP with potatoes and indian
meal and these they would continue to buy, as the
price of American meat could never be brought 30
low as to enter into competition with these articles.
Unless there q prospect of profit in the enter
prise few business men would care to enter on the
speculation sending meat to Ireland to SELL and
unless it sold at loss 1t would fail to sell at
ALL"
..What do you think Of having q relief committee
composed of prominent citizens formed In this city
to meet by contributions any emergency that may
arise ut the other side?"
The depth of winter and. later the spring, are
the times to be most dreaded. Should real famine
eusue spasmodic attempts made here and there In
different parts of this country to meet it would be
entirely Intellectual and therefore. it would become
necessary to have well organized committee estab-
lished here with connections throughout the States.
to be able to direct full and steady stream or
aid to places where it may be required As 1t Is.
mittee Composed OF faithful and loving Irish
hearts, in full operation. They are remittins
money through the Irish Emigrant Society and other
channels to their relatives and friends in every
parish in every county In Ireland. and great deal
Of money gets into the hands of those who are really
needy. In addition to the work done by the society
tho large bankers down town selling considerable
sums probably in the aggregate quite as much rs the
society 1t is therefore, easy to SEQ how mucn money
goes to Ireland in that quiet way. do not think
the distress now existing is anything like what 1t
will be toward the spring The people in Ireland
have as rule saved little money from the harvest.
audf hov hay sOm
upon besides their hogs and CATTLE These resources
however, will be exhausted as spring approaches.
and then the severest pinch will be fclt and the DE.
mands on tho benevolent will be the greatest. Az 1t
is q great deal of money from private sources has
been forwarded to the impoverished districts.
'What will be tho effect of this state Of affairs on
emigration next year?
81 suppose the Irish exodus after this season will
be as great 1t after the fxmine In 1847, when
every family which could emgrate did and look
ing at the statistics OF the Emigration Board of New
York we find that from $1,000 arrivals IN 1847 it
jumped to 900 in 1s4s to l 600 in ls49 to l17OOO
in 1850 and to 163,500 in 1851. The force of the
famine here expended itself and the figures fell of
gradually, till in 1861 they counted only 50OO The
distress OF 1860 sent the numbers again. despite the
civil in this country and in 1868 they reached as
the average was about 10000 year, and subsequent
to that period there was rapid decline till 1871
prosperous year in 1reland-when there was the
lowest Irish emigration Ia over thirty years. being
only 1921. The year 1873 gives q record OF 1908
and as an indication OF how the hard times have
come again this year Of our Lord. 1879. win foot up
an emigration of nearly 10000. and the year 1880 will
probably more than double the number"
NEW YoRK's LIBERALIrY.
Mr.. Henry L. Hoguet president of the Emigrants'
Industrial Savings Bank, in answer to question "a
to what information he possessed concerning the
state Of things in Ireland said:-''fhe correspond
ence have with Ireland is confined to Dublin. and
is not apt to throw much light tho state Of the
agricultural districts, but from the fact that within
the past few weeks the drafts on Ireland have been
unusually large, should say considerable distress
existed, and that, Judging from past experience.
affairs will be likely to grow worse before they grow
better"
"What plan Of relief would you suggest?'
II would suggest the same system ss we had be-
fore 1862. We did very well at this side but there
were some complaints across the water that the
money was unequally distributed among the differ
ent parts Of the country.
"Do you think q relief committee here would be
equally successful now in raising subscriptions2"
"New York subscribed as much money then as the
aggregate OF all the other centres Of population but
doubt If the subscriptions this time would be as
large The people not as well of now and many
noble hearted Irishmen then living have quit the
seyed some big subscriptions without solicitation,
but in hearty ofhand way. $1,000 and $4,000 be-
ing freely given individual subscriptions. Still
suppose there would be no lack Of generous aid II
the ball was once set in notion"
Mr.. William II. Grace. of Wall street. asked IL
he would favor bringing the suffering people Of Ire.
land out here, and he answered -"Decidedly; I'd
bring them all out here il it were possible. or
course practically there could not be any extensive
transportation and in any the process would be
SLOW but cases of actual distress had better be
Ieved in this way because from year to year we are
reminded or OF leuue, anu the 1eWer lett IN
the country who might possibly fall its victims the
better was In England and Ireland last year, and
both countries appeared to to be suffering badly.
Emigration appears to be what the English have de-
cded upon to get out of their troubles and the
might prove panaces for the distress in Ireland"
Have you learned from any sources in Ireland the
extent of the distressT
Nothing beyond what casually read in tho
papers; but have no doubt from what observed .
year ago that the wretched state of things hardly
be exaggerated.
Mr.. Eugene Kelly. the banker. being asked IL
and If he knew much of the state Of affairs in that
country replied- that business is now chiefly
transacted by the Irish Emigrant Society. As far
as I can make out there Is occasion
for immediate alarm about the condition
of the people. They have been advised
they doing No cases OF actual starvation have
been heard of, while two. believe. reported
occurring in this city lately. think 1t would be
premature to set on foot an organized subscription
at this time when there docs not appear to be sum-
cient grounds to warrant 1t. We should wait till the
proper opportunity arrives, and that will be about
the beginning OF the spring. when the Irish people
will feel the real PINCH and when we can do them
real service II we raise money now, when it Is not
seriously needed it will do good and will tend
rather injuriously affect the prospects OF raising
other money when the crisis has arrived"
IN HANDS OF COMMITTEE.
"You would put the matter in the hands OF COM
nittee. done before?"
Eyes, I would have committee OF responsible
citizens, In whose hands everybody will feel assured
pie of Ireland will be applied to its proper purpose;
but at the present time do not think IL wise to
duly excite tho minds of the Irish people resident
here who have relatives in Ireland by the cry Of star
vation."
Mr.. John Savage who was ono of the secretaries
- he ltaf apfI satA rha Inf