New-York tribune., 1879-03-12

nesses to be called to provo the charges were given
There was MUGS discussion about technlcaillcS'
MI Talmage inquired of the members If the Com
mittee of Investigation would have right to vote
IN the trial. He nominated sarcasticaliy, the Rev.
Arthur Crosby and the Rev. DIR. Van Dyke TO ACT as
prosecutors. Dr. Van Dyke positively declined lne
Rev. Messrs. Crosby and McCullagh were selecteu
finally the Prosecuting Committee.
ANOTHER DAY OF LIVELY DEBATE.
The Brooklyn Presbytery convened at .
o. m Yesterday, in the Second PRESBYTERIAN Church. TO
arrange the dc rails for the trial Of the Rev De"
Talmage on charge OF falsehood and deceit lhe at
tendance was large Mr. Tain ge sat in the seat which
he occupied the previous day. but Dr. Van DyBe had
changed his place one seat nearer the trout Mrs Tai
mag present, with keen eye TO all the proceedings
Dr. Ludlow, the moderator. made bref Introductory
prayer and then reading Of the minutes was omitted
as the clerk had not had time 10 prepare them. Ihe
moderator announced that they had met to arrange the
witnesses for the trial of Mr.. Talmage
The Rev. Arthur Crosby, chairman OF the Common
Fame Committee said that the committee had arranged
the witnesses to the specifications as FAR as was poss
BILE; but this dutv he thought. should devove upon
the Prosecuting Committee which was TO be appointed
He then announced the witnesses as follows: 10 speci-
ncations Nos l and Q, ]. n. Hallock, L. Remington
Henry Dickinson, L. W. Hawley, NJ. II. Bright, s. b.
Ieyerch Robert Waugh and F. S. Dodge; TO specihca-
tions Nos 4, 5 and g. j. f. Talmage, r. s. Hobbs, W. D.
silcocks and b. f. Cocswel TO specification NO. A. l.
W Hathaway, II. ] Van Dyke, Richard Eels and FRED
erick Baker to specifications Nos 3. A. and g. l. h.
Pearsal to specifications Nos and z, Charles Mich
oils; 10 specifications Nos. and O Alexander
Pearson; to specifications Nos. g. and T. William NJ
Pearson; to specification No. 7. Arthur Crosby
and j. Milton Greene; TO specifications Nos and o.
j. r. Morris; TO specification No 3. Daniel Tamage' )
to specification No. 8, S. D. Morris.
The moderator inquired whether the Pfesbyery would
ACT on this part of the committees report leave 1t
in the hands the committee to be appointed for the
prosecution Dr. Van Dyke said that 1t would DC in
felcous for the Presbytery to adopt the report In
his opinion the committee had right to parcel out the
witnesses to the different specifications. The law
merely said that the Of The witnesses to sustain
the charges must be given the defendant and the
Presbytery had no right to push the matter further
and limit the witnesses the various specifications
In reply Dr. Spear said :" The Book Of Discipline ,
saws that the witnesses shall be allotted TO the specinc
charges and the person implicated shall be informed
beforehand in order that he have the benefit of the
knowledge. am surprised at what the committee has
done. These witnesses are men selected on knowledge
and after inquiry and then the committee come before
the Presbytery without knowledge as TO which OF the
witnesses should prove the specifications I do not
want to proceed until basis OF equity Is laid down. In
all my experience never heard of such course as that
recommended by the committee. II is novel thing"
A DISCUSSION OVER THE WITNESSES.
Mr. Crosby remarked that number Of the witnesses
were absent from the city. and the committee did not
know exactly what they would testify TO- 1t seemed to
him that those witnesses should have right TO testify
TO anything under the specifications charge of false
hood aud deceit had made and the specifications,
while they would go show the truth OF the charge
were charges in themselves Dr. Spear replied that
the seemed TO contain number Of witnesses who
didn't know much. This very unfortunate atti-
rude which TO place part Of the case He urged
that Mr.. Talmage should not be robbed of his rights
Mr.. Talmage-In the first arraignmen Of myself and
CHI brfo hD eshV Y.
Dr. Van DYKE call the brother TO order
Mr.. Talmagc with spirit).-l have the floor. i,
Dr. Vau Dyke.-Ihe Session sent the case mp to the
Pres0ytey Tue Presbytery did not { aIraiSn them
Mr. Tsi@2ge-By " your S,I advice; G0 s;r lLausnteFI
Mr.. lalmage.-The names OF the witnesses were
fzze on the part Of the prosecution, and triumph ON
TO each charge were attached The Importance OF this
maeri augmented III that in the list OF witnesses pro
friends have in the church-men who would pluck out
their right eyes for They are Father Pearson VINO
INV guard against them. Laughter 49,, ,, ~,
The clerk called attention to the met that az M ccd da
hrid he lad FINALLY Dr. Van DYKE read part of
the record to show that in the case OF ID. A. Way
against b. X. COrwm the names OF the witnesses we're
disc1ssion tie Rev Mr. Mlard offered the following
resolution. which was voted down -
ResOircd. That in the trial OF TINS case the witnesses
assigned 10 each OF the specifications shall he the only
witnesses that shall testify under the specitcaon.
The Rev. Archibald McCuliagh moved that the
present committee be made the Prosecuting Committee,
Inn ne motion not seconded a mOl1On was lDdue
by Dr. Spear that Mr. Iamage ne informed OF th the
name. of the witnesses TO be cited in proof or the
epecncations. and DIR. Van Dyke moved as an
amendment that Mr.. Talmage be served with copy
OF the charge and specifications with the names ofthe
witnesses. The moderator remarked that mat would
end all action for ten days, winch Mr.. Talmage replied
that waved tine customary ten days. On lhe part
titled consideration, and that they should nave
the power to fix the time.
sFIECTIoN or THE PROSECUTORS
motion was then carried that the charges be served
uaed al
and auother motion by Dr.. Van Dyke that the number
of prosecutors be limited to two was also carried.
This brought Nh Tamage to his feet and he said with
great sarcasm: " move that Mr. Crosby ana Dr. Van
Dyke be appointed prosecutors" llaughter'I
Dr. Van Dyke-I should be happy to obge my friend,
Dr. Talmage but l cannot do 50 in this matter and
have determined TO be a listener in this case
Mr Crosby-InsinuatiOns have been freely thrown
out since he mum Mn T1s and that am nothing but his
mOuthpiece. deny that occupy any such relatOh TO
tbe Doctor ! have only been actueted by honorable
motives in this matter would rather not serve Oh inc
Prosecuting Committee.
Mr. Tamage-I nominated these brethren because OF
the extreme they both entertain for my re-
putaton. lLaughterl AS they are deslrons OF oolDg
All they can for myself and the Church. made the nom
M snear-I move that the Rev Dr. Crosby or rather
Mr. Crosbv-he VIII be "a Doctor when he Is Older
llaughteI-be chairman OF the Committee OF Prosecu-
Tnis motion was carried and then Mr. Crosby moved
that Mr.. McCuagh be the other member OF me com com
mttee am am no1 He sS ss' ~ INV tcndSrness are very
much out Of place. never pretended any special
tenderness for Dr. Talmagc but FOR years have been
contening for the OF tins Presbytery, and shall
do nv duty in mattel" Dr.. Van Dyke asked 10 be
excused from acting as prosecutor but MT lalmagc
declined to withdraw the nomination. The PreSpytery
voted TO excuse Dr. Van Dyke, and appointed Mr. Nc
Cullagh -
Mr.. Tamage-I would like to ask two or three
questions in regard TO the conducting of this case
want to ask IT, as the trial goes the gentlemen on
the Committee Of Investigation will have right TO vote
My for asking this can be stated III lew words
appeared before tho committee. There questions
made eXnlAnAtIOms