, 1879-01-31

may bo some things that would necessarily bc
collateral to It.
Nj. Ilcstng-Ono afternoon was sitting In
Mr. Jucsscn's office, and from movements that
had seen In Mr.. Wtnston's Office between Mr.
clover and himself
"rbe JutlRcl' ........
"Ycs. was In Juessen's office rhcn the
Judge came II therc, up two flights OF stai'''
.JHdge who''
"Judgc Glover: and says he. 'Mr. lIcetng. !
am looking for yuu.' Judge. what Is TT 1
had understood from Mr.. Wlnston That Mr:
Glover had received part Of this saa5oo that l
took frum MF. ReMn fH oE,les 10 assist. lie
came Np-stalrs,-was almost out OF breath:
This was ~ the presence of Mr. Jueatcn. And
says he, .les'n3, nes!ng, nov theru fs chance
t9r y' w. s1vs mat b. 1tr ~ s
Jou into this thing. says be, Now all you
nave to 10 Is 10 lay down On J. b. Ward, AMI
will assure you Immunity complete. Well,
says .JMlge, san't, and Ten't 4 T. snnd'
TO me In the Tlvoli, anu he said, lieslnr. GONE
nm this way.' think one of the reporters OF
THE TRIBUNE WAS sitting afong stdc Ut tnr, who
vent away from his s;at At ~ rs,lues; q M5:
with ron, Sir. HcsiaE.' bata talk With him,
AMI he says, Nuw you lay t1own on Ward, and
rarwe'j, al.d Logan, and you ran 50 cear.'
s = liz ao.Ssf ssSe e S ne wEse oDg
i!oe:,lo and si!. junkcr the sssvcrsa.
tlon that had With Mr.. Winston,
a sey I'D asss sela sns s '{ s In nsa sost
mud told them that Winston wanted e., coo to
t2o,000 to gel u decision ~ getting the buoks
delivered up to tho dlst.llcrs without examtna.
9 aeco,eet ,sy ycS T. hs lie bs At,ois s
they enid what for they wantsdit, at'd Dr. Rush
md Il. Il. Miller, as learned In tho evening OF
l'onllc xcu he camo to my house to rtpurt II,
nnt says he, IL. u. Miller an.i Ur. Rush OBJ
sccrct,-shat tue! ought to f'nva come atnonE
tiic t'lstlllers a.tt demanded cortaiu amount
Without askinE for It."
Mr. .Lapham-'rhc question put to 1o,' was
not what applications were mhdo to you which
had no influence, iI1lti which you rejected, but
whit Was said to you by Wny Ut fnduccucnt
upon which you acted In pleading guilty. All
that was said which you rejected. mud which
had no influence upon you ID entirely Irrelevant
to the question put to you.
Col. Cooper-rhe question wss little bsoaaer
than that. It MAs a. to what PROPOSITIONS had
| been made to him Individually, and whether
| did not, Without reference tn immunity.
Mr.. I[estnx-l have already stated what the
| propositions Werc,-my consultation with the
| Government counsel that II | knew anythtnE
| against Ward Or these people that could he
Col: Cooper-You have already stated why
| you pleaded guiityf
"ics, slr."
"it was on account Of tho Rush and Pahlmau
casci"
"That WAS my reason, but did not withdraw
| ms rea.h
.,,,s, %,|hy " did you originally enter plea Of
- uccausc It was held out to Us that We should
be very lcn!catfy dealt with II We would save
costs to The ioyernnent."
"iiY whom WIS It held outt'
'l,v the Government oiilccrs themselves In.
sisting wc stould plead guilty to Two counts.
| The indictment t,ad q dozen In.
Sir. i.antam-Yon wtre asked tho nn1nc oi
| the perso.l who 94ye that Indictment.
mir. Doutellc and Mr.. Bangs, aud, think,
Aver was prcsent. Al to tho punish
| mentr Of COURSE. they could not ray,
but thcy would recommend 'rniency: And Nj.
| Iunkcr afterwards went before The Government
counsel IND stated tte fact,-ti,e conversation
tl,At had with Mr.. Winston IN regard to thai
| money,-und believe tint was the only rcnsol
why was harshly dealt With, and did II te
help friends"
Col Cooper sud there might bc few qucs
tlolls, after thinking the matter over, that ht
might desire to ask Str. uca!ng, but, II It suited
the convenience Of the Committee, ho should
like the Committee to adjourn for dinner.
1t wns then noon.
The Committee, however, seemed Inclined t.
70 ahead.
slr. KNIT was understood to say that th,
Committee deaired to nsk Mr.. ucslng Aosnt
questions, anu he WOULD therefore, not 10 dis
charged.