The New York herald., 1879-12-13
to send for a coroner when Mary stannards body

to send for q coroner when Mary stannard's body
found.
Cross-examined-what poison did you recommend
TO MR. Hayden for rats? A. Arsenic.
, y On that day. when you talked about the rsts.
ana You give him anything A. l gave him his sup
Q, Rats are numerous in various places in Rock
land? A. They vary
Y. which, the rats the places? A. Both, I've
Nnp"n ~ p, ,a's 20 move TO new places.
y; hats that you've known. then travel rounds
The next witness. Eta J. Bartlett. a rather
nas nne appearana young lady. plainly but neatly
dressed uer testimony was solely 70 the effect that
ms wire Tor his knife and then him get it from
MORE SCIENTIFIC TESTIMONY.
DR.. Stephen u. Hubbard. professor of obstetrics
and diseases OF women and children in Yale College,
called on the matter of the ovarian tumor Will,
which Mary Stannard afflicted at the time of her
death
O. What would be the effect of such ,r,nor ,,,or
the person? A. such tunor produces no symp-
toms recognizable by the person or physcians. the
person is not conscious OF the existence Of a tumor
OF that age ana size these tumors are freq uently
seen. but cannot say they common.
Q. Would this tumor have produced any symp-
fatly contradictory Of the evidence of the States
experts lit would not affect the or the ap-
pearance of the bosom at that stage perfectly
harmless and innocuous; it is not uncommon for
medical men to detect such tumors-larper ones
when the patient never suspects their existence;
tumor Of this kind never produces any
symptoms until large enough. by pressure to
interfere with the functions of adjacent okan
make some change in the abdominal shape; il
would need to be as large certainly as a small
orange; even then patient might not know Of its
presence.
Professor Hubbard was next questioned as to the
amount of blood which should have flowed natu.
rally from the stab wound in Mary Stannards throat.
the body lying upon sloping ground. with the head
thirteen sinches higher than the feet. "a human
body" he said. ~is about e-eighth blood. weighing
Weighing 13O pounds. This would be about eight
quarts. but I cannot give tho exact quantity"
BODY. how much blood probab,y flowed % therefromS nS
A. Several pounds should think.
"What Is the object OF thisy inquired Judge Har-
rison.
A STARTLING THEORY ADVANCED
.''ro show that Mary Stannards body may have
bled somewhere else before It brought to the
place where it was found" replied Mr.. watrous.
Judge Harrison characterized this another of
the absurd theories advanced by the defence and he
had understood some time ago that this particular
theory had been abandoned Now IL tho defence
went INTO It the State would claim the right to pro-
duce in rebutta the evidence originally prepared to
meet this claim if 1t had been made. The State had
regarded the theory as moonshine, but now the de-
fence appears to regard 1t as cheese The State had
not attempted to put in again any Of the several
things taken out and the defence should hold to the
same rule.
Mr. Watrous denied that any such withdrawal had
been made.
O. Now. Doctor. assuming the body lay on COM
pact ground and there was found two three hourn
after death pool Of blood only eight inches in di-
ameter, and there were no other marks OF blood,
excepting where it had flowed in the stream from
the throat. what would it indicate? and as to
whether the stab was inflicted there? A. If no blood
was found in the body the theory that she bled to
death there would be untenabe; the described
could hold but small portion Of the blood
which would naturally flow.
Q. What amount of blood would discolor the
earth to the depth Of an inch in the named? A.
pint would do 1t.
Judge Harrison conducted the cross-exam animation.
Q. Wouldn't the bleeding stop sooner IL the body
loses al his blood
Q. What proportion would such person Mary
Stannard lose? A. Icannot say.
q. Don't you know that when butchers kill an.
imas and cut their throats they hang the animals
head down as to strip the veins Of blood2 A.
have seen them so hung. but didn't know the OBJ
ject. '"
O. You have noticed that meat oven after this. has
considerable blood in it? A. Yes sir.
q. With the throat cut Mary Stannard's was.
how long before person would die? A. As soon as
blood had been reduced that the heart ceased
to act; perhaps few minutes.
mile aoI laid ewn wt tss head br nns
higher than the feet, would you expect 1t then to
bleed out blood enough to make puddle that IL
amined eight days after would leave the soil satu-
rated two inches deep? A. 1t would depend some
what upon the position in which the body was car
ried
Q. Would the wound in body SO removed have
voluntarily reopened and made such pool? A. No.
O. If the body had been carried. wouldn't it leave
traces along the route? A. Yes, sir. t7','
Q. II the throat was cut at Mary Stannard's
fathers house, 500 feet away, aud carried to the
place. wouldn't there be blood somewhere the
routeP A. should expect to be able to trace its
Q. The flow might depend somewhat upon the
force with which the blood was flowing? A. Yes sir.
2. person might be practically dead and the
blood how? A. No. sir; not very much.
Q. Suppose the throat were cut moment after
DEATH would expect the capillary force to empty
the blood slightly? A. Yes, to some extent
Q. II the body was in slanttng condition tte
capillary force Wouldn't pump very much blood up
hill to the woundr A. No. sir. ~
Q. You familiar with the action of arsenicf
A. did not know that was to be questioned about
it, and SO have not thought over the mstter {.
Q. suppose person had ninety grains Of arsenic
put in the stomach at quarter to three p. NJ and by
blood circulation the poison Was carried into the
brain aud at twenty minutes past three the person
was stunned with blow. and the poison and blow
had substantially killed the persan and the throat
wound was then inflicted. would any more blood bo
thrown out than would be elected By the capillary
force? A. Very little; there would only be passive
hemorrlage
q. You wouldn't expect to find pint ejectedf
A. Perhaps not, but don't think you have put Q
fairly supposable case.
Judge Harrison requested the witness to inquire
into the effects Of arsenical poisoning for further
cross-examinaton next week. .
The Court then adjourned to Tuesday next ut ten
O'Clock.
VAN KLEECKS DEFENCE.