The New York herald., 1879-08-30
QUEBECs PARLIAMENTARY FIGHT.

THE DEBATE N THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL-A
QUESTION OF PRRCEDENrs-THE LIEUrENANr
GoyrRNOR STILL SILENT.
QUEBEC. August %. 1879
In the debate on Hon. DR.. Ross resolution asking
the Lieutensnt Governor to dismiss his Ministers
and stopping thesupplies, Hon. Mr. Starnes said that
the Jolly government would never resign whle IL
thecondence of the Legislative Assembly,
but when 1t was found that 1t had lost the conf
dence Of the peoples representative that moment IL
would resign. He contended that tho Council had
not the power to amend supplies, was evidenced
by the fact that the Governors speech from tho
throne at the commencement Of the session never
alluded to the Council at all in connection with sup
plies the finances OF the province. 1t was true
that an instance referred to as precedent had
CURED in one of the Australian colonies; but no
precedent tho action threatened by the honorable
gentlemen opposite could be found either England
or Canada. The honorable gentleman quoted from
Todd, volume L.. page 487, to show that the House
of Lords had no right to amend supplies. ard that
the fate OF government would be Affected by any
vote of the House Of Lords. He also quoted
from May to show tnAt the Lords had NOE
power either to amend or originate . supply bill.
What was the ground upon which the honorable
gentleman sought to have tho supplies refusedf 10
was principally upon the pretension that tho gov
ernment had not tho confidence of the majority OF
the peoples representatives. This pretoneion he
considered was very absurd and untcnaoae. since
been sustained by majority in the Assembly
throughout the session. Notwithstanding that more
motions Of non-conhdence had been made In tho
House than had. perhaps. ever been msde before
since confederation.
THR ADMINISTRATION A FARCE.
Hon. Mr.. de In Brayere considered that the ad-
ministrAtion Of the affairs Of the Province .
farce and warranted the interference OF the Council
should not prevail in the Chamber. and no factious
opposition should interfere with the action OF the
Representatives Of the people. who have granted
supplies to Her Majesty and maintained rhe Jolly
government in power. 1t was very inconsistent on
the part Of the honorable gentleman who moved tho
resolutions. and Of those who act with him.
to ask she Lieutenant Governor to dismiss
the Ministry, 1;r which nn mas ,s oSo ,n.s
session. Hon. Mr.. De Bouchervle argued that the
resolutions were quite in order and 1t was the inn
peratiye duty OF the House to pass thenn. He
quoted the journals OF the Legislature OF 1856.
when tho Council rejected the supply bill owing to
the government having introduced and carried
through the Assembly u bill to erect Parliament
buildings and fixing tho seat of government at
Quebec; and again, in 1889, the Council refused
supplies under ike circumstances. The honorable
gentleman reviewed at length the policy OF the gov
ernment since last session, which he denounced In
strong terms
FEw PREcEpENrs BECAUSE RARE SDcRssrrx.
Hon. Mr.. Hearnes said that the few precedenta
which existed both in this country and in England
for refusal of the supplies by tho upper branch Of
the Legislature simply showed that no such neces-
sty for Interference has existed as was necessary IN
this case
Hon. Mr.. Archambault said there was nothing to
be gained by refusing the supply bill aud obstruct-
ing the work OF the session. Ho trusted the major
ity OF the Council would be patriotic enough to
allow the session to close without impeding tho
essential works the governments had In contempla-
ton.
Hon. Mr.. Gaudet said tho government had no
right delay the session till the supplies voted last
year exhausted He spoke Mt length In favor Of
the resolutions.
THE KEsoIur1oSs CARRIED
Hon. Mr.. Ross summed up the debate and TIN
Speaker put the resolutions. which we're carried on
the following division:-
YEAs-Messrs. Beaudry. Do Bouehcrvilie Dionne. Was
talcr Gaudet Gingrss carnes DO La Breycr LAvolcte.
NAysmMessrs starnes. Arshambauit. Bryson. PrSelx
Webb Wood and Romiiiard-7.
An address founded on tho resolutions We
adopted and ordered be presented the Lieutenr
ant Governor by the Speaker of the Council.
NOTHING GOVERNMENT.
At tho opening of the House to-day Mr.. Jolly
moved an adjournment until three p. NJ pending
tho receipt OF message from the Legislative Coun
ell. Nothing Is known of the governments policy,
excepting from a reference made in Mr.. Starpes
speech yesterday. whom no said that government
would not resign while IL had the eonhdence OF tine
peoples representatives.
The answer OF the Lieutenant Governor to the
Council has not yet been received. II Is expected to.
night or tomorrow morning
Both houses adjourned at half-past four p NJ. until
tomorrow at ten o'clock. message having been
received from the Lieutenant Governor respecting
the Councils advice.