The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-07-26

bell those who are in the house get alarmed. and
them they find themselves comfortable there. they
at loss to invent pretext in order not to be
forced to quit it.
'And naturally you expect to be one Of those who
will dislodge them sooner later?'
NJ PAUL DE CAssAGNAc-I have told you that rep
resent the opposition in country where the oppo-
sition alone is popular. have with me the Bona
partists, the Orleansts and the legitimiss remem-
Der that defended them the 10th OF May. and
that to defend them quarrelled with NJ Rouher and
was qnarrelling with the Prince Imperial.
They are grateful for it. The best policy is
that of frankness and generosity.
TERRIBLE BLOW.
''The death of the Prince Imperial must have been
a terrible blow to YOU"
l. NJ PAUL CAssAGNAc-Terrble. indeed. The
Prince my friend-my personal friend. He had
the most absolute confidence in me. was the only
depostsry of the desire which he expressed in his
will as regards his successor. and was the first to
disclose what aware of-not even NJ.
Rouher.
"Did you often see the PrinceY'
NJ PAUL DE CAssAGNAc-As often as possible, and
exchanged letters of the most curious character
from which easily inferred his personal opinions
and those of his entouragc in the latter of which
jealousy of me was daily indicated always told
Prince had great quality. He could both listen
and understand. When any one spoke to him with
frsnkness. to contradict him. it increased his
esteem for him.
EuaENIE's COOL MANNER.
Sand the EmpressT'
NJ. PAUL DE CAssAGNAo-I believe that this excess
of frankness less agreeable to her. took part
with 1869 and in 1870 against the Olivier Min
istry. which leading the Empire into an abyss.
At that time l had more than conference with
Her Majesty ut the Tuieres, but since then she has
manifested more coldnoss toward me because did
not accept without resistance the rather domineer-
ing tone that she has always maintained.
UNFORTUNATE COMPLICATION.
"well. the Prince being dead, what willbe your
attitude toward Prince Jerome Napoleon?
M. PAUL DE CAssAGNAC-I am, as is well known. the
personal enemy of the Prince This enmity even
goes further than is supposed. and in connection
with it can mention to you q detail which is
known to every one On the 10th Of March, when
went to Camden House to proclaim the majority
of the Prince Imperial. Monselgneur had invited
Prince Napoleon whose duty it certainly to have
been there Prince Napoleon replied by letter.
which he put the Prince Imperial to the alternative
of choosing between him and me, adding that he
would not go to Camden House if was to be there.
I was in England. The Prince showed me the letter.
sMonsegneur," said to him, "what have you de-
cided?" cit seeras to me that you know" replied
the Prince, 'seeing that you here and that my
cousin is not coming" am. therefore. his enemy;
/ am the partisan Of Prince Victor designed as his
successor in the will Of the Prince Imperial. But
comprehend that the cannot be taken away
from the father Therefore. in order not to
create a division in the Bonapartist party,
l am ready to make all sorts of concessions
as regards persons I maintain that the Prince I'M
perial only excluded Prince Jerome in his will
count Of his principles. the latter having placed
himself in violent opposition to the imperial consti-
tuition. Let Prince Jerome go back his past. let
him repudiate the Republic which he recognized in
his letter of thanks to the electors Of Ajaccia and
let him give guarantees to the clergy and will
cept him-without Willingness without enthus-
asm, own. but will. nevertheless. accept him."
THE PRETENpER's NEED OF RESTRAINT
"And you will support him US you have supported
the Emperor and as you have supported the Prince
mperial?''
Il. PAUL DE CAssAaNAc-No be he pretender or
Emperor shall remain. regards him, the leader of
a majority Of the Right. 1 shall play on the Right
the role that Odillon Barrot played the Left
Louis Philippe. Prince Napoleon will always stand
in need of some one to restrain him and keep him
in his place.
..what is your opinion about Prince victor?
NJ PAUL DE CAssAGNAo-Hs mother. the Princess
Clotilde, has reared him admirably. The day his
father consents to it this young man will restore
union to the partisans OF the Empire and make the
Bonapartist party stronger than it ever has been.
Therefore if Prince Jerome does not give you the
guarantees that you ask for it is Prince Victor that
you count upon?
NJ PAUL DE CAssAGNAc-Mark what I say. The
longer live the more believe that in order to pre-
senti m a co vi pa's
doctrines one must abandon tho absolute to enter
into the relative Questions Of principles above
questions OF dynasty. Let a government. which may
be that Of the Empire but which shall not be that
of the Republic come into power and shall it,
without. however, ralying to it. The Comte de
Chambord the Comte de Paris would not find an
enemy in me. / am not one of those imperiasts
who prefer have nothing than not have the
Empire prefer to have that which would be better
than the Republic.
ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC.
$50 you will continue against the Republic your
violent polemicsY
Nj. PAUL DE CAssAGNAC-I have escaped Ave prose-
cutions. do not want to incur the risk Of sixth.
shall be more prudent in future. As regards the
Chamber. it is now engaged in framing against me
new and terrible set rules with the penalty Of
exclusion varying from two to seven months. All
this is chidshness. The day that shall have an
insult to resent sacred cause to defend, were
they in place of exclusion to decree against the
penalty of death. it would not prevent from per-
forming my duty. For the moment. the govern
ment in its apprehensiveness may continue to accu-
mulate measures of precaution against me-a single
adversary. can but feel grateful for thom These
measures can only increase my popularity. The
other day in the Palas dc Justice and in the Place
Dauphine was cheered by fifteen hundred people.
10 and
myself elected in twelve departments.
The above is exact resume of the conversation
which had with NJ. Paul de Cassagnac. 1t is not
merely interesting because of the Importance of the
position which the young Deputy of Gers has already
assumed but also because OF the more important
role which he may be called upon to play in tho des-
,,nica of his couutry.