New-York tribune., 1879-05-10
TALMAGE AND HIS CRITICS.
VARIED COMMENTS ON THE TRIAL.

rur FIGHT To BE RESUMED BEFORE THE LONG
ISLAND sYNoD-MR. TALMAGE CENsuRED FOR
his sPEECH AT THE TRIAI-A JUBILEE MEET
ING At THE TABERNACLE.
The action of the Brooklyn PreSbytery in dismiss
ing the charges of falSehood and deceit against Mr.
Talmage was discussed yesterday, and his manner
in delivering the address at the trial was sharply
criticised. His pulpit methods will be considered
on Monday next by the Presbytery. On the com
plant of DIR. Van Dyke and Others the charge OF
falsehood will be brought before the Synod of Long
Island next October Last evening at the Taber-
nacle the result of the trial was celebrated by what
one of the speakers called Jubilee meeting"
Remarks were made by Elder Corwin, the Rev. Mr..
st. John, the Rev. Henry ID. Kimball and Others.
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PRESENT POSITION OF THE CASE.
Ills METHODS OF PREACHING TO RE PASSED UPON
THE CHARGE OF FALsEHOOD TO BE CARRIED TO
THE SYNOD OF LONG IsLAND-wHAT MEMBERS OF
TIE PREsBYTERY THINK OF THE PROCEEDINGS.
The Brooklyn Prcsbytery, after seven weeks
of delberaton. having given its official opinion OF the
question OF the Rev. Mr Tamages veracity as to the
matter set forth the general charge and the seven
specifications Monday next will discuss the first part
Of the committees report in reference TO his modes OF
preaching etc It believed that this VIII not occupy
mnch tme as many who voted 20 acquit Mr.. Talmage
on the charge of ashoOd and deceit expressed in their
speeches unqualified dsappr0vsl Of his pecuarites as
manifested in the Tabernacle pulpit.
The decision which was rendered by the Prcsbytery
will go TO synod OF Long Island for review upon the
complaint flied by Dr. Van Dyke and others This differs
from an appeal the latter only be brought wnen
there are parties before the Presbyerv one
OF whom feels aggricved by the decision In the case
IN question there complaining party an invest-
cation Of the charges ALLEGED by common fame hav-
ing been ordered by the Presbytery, The discipline pro-
vides however that any members of the Presbyiery
may complain that the decision Is contrary 70 the evi
dence injurious to the interests OF the Church. or upon
any other grounds which seem sufficient The Synod OF
Long Island which meets in october, consists Of the
Presbytercs Brooklyn, OF Nassau aud Of Long Island
The Presbyery whose decision is complained OF is not
allowed vote the other two consist OF about forty
pastors OF churches the number of elders so
that Court will he made Of about eighty members
Much stress laid by the siGucrs OF the complaint upon
tho fact there ministers without charges ID
the synod outside OF the Brooklyn PresbYtery and that
there WI be an equal representation Of laymen In the
recent trial there churches which could not
fud elders able and willing TO give the time necessary 10
serve In the Presbytery; and consequently only lOur-
teen out the twenty-Oue churches were represented
In the vote by elders. The course of procedure IN
the SYNOD will be similar that in the Prcsbytery, ex
cept that all action Will he based upon the record pre-
sented aud no witnesses viii be examined. The COM
plant and the action of Presbytery will be fully ar
gued the roll of members will be called Tor opinions
and arguments and a vote will be taken,
Much surprise was felt by members or the Prcspytcry
ministers the Prcshytery who had been anxious rom
8cts OF Mr. Tamage had been inconsisl tent with me
saw hat thev did not believe that he had been conscious
ofdeberlte alsehood One Of the most emphatic sur-
BE was of number. and That he expected TO have
an opportunity after the vote IVA was & taEGn. %i eMs M
himself on record III some way 'hai WouIt Staaae - Ms
urcuent Of the man rom bis opinion OF hIS actlGns
had rconcstrd bis name TO be called last the roll
In order that he might bring forward plan Oy which
also pointed The same conclusion. He concluded ms
remarks by saying; If we excuse the man and at
the time condemn the acts place me on record as
voting not 10 sust iin the specifications Inc rev M
sbould ne compelled to vote To sustain the charge,
convinced by Mr. BabcocSs arguments thai was n3t
necessary to do order 10 condemn the acts %bch,
In his opinion, had ocen proved ana decided 10 cHase
many others who desired 70 De PaccH on nc euoI u,
similar way, and hoped there might be some way III
taKs il was said was in bringing the matter up pre-
maturey was Necessary tiaI wore s@ra . S ns1 2
ance With Presbyterian usage 10 refer the whole matter
to a committee on which both sides should be repre-
sented aud which should bring IN minute embodyine
the result the for the action OF the PresDyteEy
lutons which were afterward adopted; nearly inc
whole Presbyterv taken bv surprise; hut Dr. Spear
Mr. williamson and others saw me 0penhg ior a more
complete yiGdeaon than tne' Gad hoped ior' ana al
STRUCTURES on MR.. TALMAGEs PULPIT METHODS
MI Talmage's speech at the conclusion Of the pro-
ceedngs was commented on freely and he was cen
tured by many for delivering it. Some said that II he
had made the speech before the vote was tdheh' IL
ould have turned the votes Of eight ten members;
not on account of the personal remarks in it-whch
tmply offended good and had nothing to do with
the truth or fasty Of the charge-but because ne as
suued that the vote OF acqmttal vote OF approval
of his actions and promised that his future course OF
conduct should be based upon TINS assumption IDS
opinion. however, was by DO means universal; some
members majority pleased with toe speech'
and IL there pOrtOnsOf Thlch they cou!l hou e1
press unqualified approval, they thought thel e1cus
aple considering the persecution to what ne hdd Oerh
and which ne had endured IN silence u was
said hat his comments the dihcrence between MS
nnlnt methods and of other ministers was antd
ouite as much at members of the majority as AT tne
minority for many the former had taken special
pains when giving their reasons Tor voting not 10 sas
lain the charge. dlscaim all approval OF MS prteCn
ing or of any which the OutgrOWth OF MS
neculiar tenDerament or eCcentIlclles Dr hocbWeH
was spoken OF having been absolutely cruel IN staD-
bing Mr.. Talmage through ana through WIN MS sttlG
lures az time that be was urging ms acqula
The course pursued by Mr. Hathaway on the tfla es-
pecay ms speech OF selfvudIcauon on THURSDAY was
artously commented but members or the commit
Tee who had formulated the charges sdQ ihdt MS re-
marks were unjust to them. IL was sara by pOnil.
nent member OF the majority, that nc hau the pest OF
reasons for believing that the defence could nave
brourht forward nothing against Mr. HathawaY,s cha-
acteI aud fear had place among tbe mhuehccs
winch induced him retire from the case so lIecW-
tatey. hut that impression injurious TO hn had ui-
dnnbtedy been created bis withdrawal, following as
Al dld Immediately after the threat by Mr 1anage t"at
ne could prove all the statements ne nad mace injurious
70 Mr. Hathaway and could convict INN OF pelJrY As
nossihe explanation of hrs course u was SAID tat Mt
IMAGES nephews, and that II owing 10 tAelr inter-
cession that he became recOncied 10 Mr.. Ialm age
A JUBILEE AT TIE TABERNACLE
CFIFBR,TIN,, MR.. TALMAGEs ACQUITTAL BY SONGS
.Nn SPEECHES or CONGRATULATION-AD-