Daily Kennebec journal., 1879-02-12

nc blil tNtllnI discussion II was IIlu on
the table under the rule.
On motion of Mr.. RICE. of Rockland the
majority and minority reports of the Commit
tee on Towns in the matter of the di, ision of
the city of Rockland, were taken from the
table and Wednesday at 10 80 o'clock as
signed for their consideration.
On motion of Mir DINGLEY. of Auburn hin
an act to prevent the taking of fish from the
tributaries of Wilson's pond for the term Of
five wears. was taken from the table and
passed to be ongrossed
On motion of Mr. WEEKS. of Augusta. bill
an act to amend sec. T. chap. l3j OF the re-
vised statutes relating TO placing cunvicts AT
labor, taken from the table and passed to
be engrossed.
The majority and minority reports of the
Committee on Education were taken mp. the
majority report being ought not to pass on bill
an act to amend chap. -. sec. - of the re-
vsed statutes rs amended bv chap. 2l5 of the
public laws of 1917, and the minority being
that it ought to pass the question being on
substituting the minority report for that of
the majority.
Mr.. FAERISCroN Of Frychurg said that un-
til quite recently il had been supposed that
under the existing law against tippling shops,
if man sold cider and the purchaser went
off the premises and used it for tipping lllr-
poses, the seller would be liable But the
not liable unless the cider i, drank on the
premises. The proposal of the bill is to place
the law where il was supposed to be before
this decision.
Mr.. BKowN of Bangor thought he had no
ticed resolution Of the State temperance or
ganization declaring that no more stringent
temperance laws are needed. He thought it
would bc little hard to prosecute a farmer
who sold gallon of cider to aman " ho went
INT, ,ft
Mr. JoNrs of Lewiston said the tempcranc,
! people do net ask for new legislation: but
| simply for an act defining and explaining til,
old law.
Mr. BoYNroS of Bangor was not prepared
! To vote for an amendment to the law which
! will subject a farmer who sells gallon of
| cider (Which he may do under the law. to
pains and penalties. il the purchaser takes
that cider to another part of the town and
! drinks IT, He hoped the House would do
nothing SO ridiculous.
Mr.. RIrcuIE of Wmtcrport hoped no far
thcr action would be taken tending to make
| the present law any more stringent. The
farmers in his vicinity have large orchard,
and manufacture cider. They are respecta
ble, in dependent citizens, desiring no dona-
ton from the State. but oAlv asking ,hat they
shall be left undisturbci in their nigh; to sell
| the products Of their farms without the liza
| The movement seemed to hc n blow aimed d-
rccty at one Of the most important branches
of agriculture fruit growing. The land in
his vicinity is a hard. sterile soil, particularly
adapted to fruit growing. The farmers there
had devoted great deal of attention to that
subject. They do not wish Il law that shall
compel them to make cider mills OF their
jaws. They simply desire the privilege Of
manufacturing their refuse apples, fit for no
L.. a Il.
PEELED to manufacture them into vinegar it
would not be worth the casks holding it.
They therefore ask that they may be allowed
to sell their produce aS they see fit. He
| again referred 10 the farmers among his con-
stituents highly respectable. He never
knew one to be drunk. They have cider in
| their cellars the year round. and he was hap
| ~ to say there were no drunken Young men
| among them. The Young men and women ot
hi vicinity were educated to walk in Il c path
of rccttudo, and they grow up ornaments to
society, always having the privilege OF drink
ing cider if they wish. He warned the House
that the agricultural community hold in the
hollow OF their hand the administration OF
the government They pay the largest tax
| and have The largest vote. and they mean 10
control the destinies of the State. And he
believed if the proposed law was imposed up
on them that men would be sent here wht
| WOUIu cuutiNoT 10 rtllcNc tnCln from Sucil
unjust legislation and give back to them their
rights.
Mr.. YorxG of Brunswick. inquired if he
took fancy to have II pitcher of cider on his
table. and went to man and bought gallon
of that liquid, whether, ii he used it by
drinking glass or quart at time in his
family, it would be deemed to have been sold
for tipping purposes:
Mr.. WILSON of Thomaston. You tip the
| glass when you drink.
Mr.. KIMBALL of Bath further inquired
whether it would be tippling if he. in his fami-
ly, treated friends from outside his family up
on cider he had bought of the farmer who
brought his butter.
Mr.. FARRINGToN presumed that gentlemen
might 90 to the Judges on that point. lie did
| not know as he was able to decide it, He
said that chap. 2l5 of the laws of 1877 pro-
hibits the sale of cider ''when kept or dcposi-
ted with intent to sell the same for tippling
purposes" That is the law to-day. But
within a week or ten days the full court ha,
decided that it would be II violation of law il
sold and drank on the premises, but not in
violation of it if sold and drank of the prem
ises. Under this decision they may open
cider shops and sell all the cider they wish to
the boys and men. who may get as drunk
as they please outside of the shops in which
it is sold. the sellers are not liable under the
law. He held that man has no more right
to sell cider to make men drunk than to sell
whskey for the same purpose.
Mr.. lIAwEs, of Vassalboro, said the cider
law would be a dead letter without the amend
ment. The only question is to decide wheth-
er we shall allow the free sale of cider for all
purposes or adopt the amendment
Mr.. WEEK., of Augusta, inquired whether
cider in certain condition does not come
under the head of Intoxicating liquors, under
the present law.
Mr.. BgowN. of Bangor said the amend
ment would result in holding farmers liable
who sold cider for the purpose of making vim
cgar, if it should turn out that tho purchaser
instead of that, used it in 4 shop or hotel, and
some body got little balmy.
Mr.. FARRINGToN, gave an illustration OF
the evils of the cider traffic. and in what
manner it is suppressed under the law before
the decision of the full court.
Mr.. IVES, of CaStine, believed we have
enough legislation on the subject of temper
ance; but by Il recent decision of the court II