The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-12
THAT TABERNACLE DEBT.
PROBING SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT ED
Ward KIMBILL RAISED

WARD KIMBILL RAISED
TaInnge Accuses Elder COrwIn OF Putting IA |
Tack In Lawyer Morriss thnIr-kimbn |
on the validity Of GIns TO Church Debts. |
On the second day Oft the second trial ofthc !
suit Of W. j. Gelston against the trustees OF the
brooklyn Tabernacle which involves the valid
| ity Of the subscriptions obtained by Debt Raiser
| Kimball to lit the $40, 900 debt from Tamagc's
| church. tho throng in the Brooklyn City Court /
/ contained SO many church members clergy
I men. lawyers. Spirtunlists. actors and ordi-
nary spectators that seats were at n premium
/ The plaintiff was absent. but Talmage 5 nephew.
/ John +. Tam0ge, occupied tho plaintiffs seat.
and actively prompted the counsel. DIR. Tai
mage sat by Debt Raiser Kimball. and tried TO
rend u book but couldn't. Matthew Hale Smith
took notes in the background A number OF
ministers closely watched tho proceedings.
Judge Reynolds who presided urged the trial
on but the lawyers were Quarrelsomc. and slow
progress was made.
Nelson Hamblin the present church treas
urer was asked 10y $. D.. Morris. counsel for
| Mr.. GolstOn. whether after the subscriptions
wcrc made and tho Rev. n. Do Witt Tamage
had subscribed 50 00O his the pastor'sl salary
was not raised from 81 600 to $4,000.
Tho question was ruled out by the Court.
Mr.. Morrs-I want to show that his subscrlp
ton was met by an increase Of salary. and that
the subscription was TO be wiped out in that way.
Elder Freeman said that II tho pluinAn could
| show that there was an arrangement with the
| pastor Mt the time he subscribed $4,000 that
the substitution should be wiped out 10y tho
| increase 81 his salary. lac lthe paintiill might
/ do 1t il they could.
! about 1000 members o! the congregation. There
| wrr" about ilfty persons AT the meeting ntwhlch
/ the pastors salary WIS raised -
! ." Wns DR. Tnlmuge thero ?" asked Mr.
Morris The witness said that he was not.
Where was he He WIS not at home. was
81 object" said the opposing counsel fcrccly
on want 10 show that Mr. Talmage was
/ ready at some convenient place. ready ana
Whiting to be a-tonished.n said MIR. Morris.
1t don't make any difference If he was next
want 10 show that the arrangement was
mad, win Nh w. Tamage's, kpoyedse'' SAID
The witness added that Mr.. Talmage had not
months. H. tho wtnc-sl didn't know that il
was under.tood that Talmagc's subscription
was TO Be- paid by deducting $1,000 from hls
| VulmnEn for his subscription. The church WIS
not pushed for funds. In the mean time. how.
ever. money. has been borrowed TO nay some 81
A. ihe increase WIS left e. the pastors dis
cr.tou. TN" Witness Bible class. called the
cla-s WAS composed OF women from 20 % 80
years ~ axe; som" married. some uaiirns.
! ana some widows. ~ the amount SiVu has been
much each individual WAS 10 Duy. Prior 10 this
!
Mtiis point: "a "" mid~t oi a spirited cross
| examination. Mr. Norris leaped from his chair
a- though there had been an explosion. lie
ruhn'l his mex and picked tack out Of the
CHAIR. Mr. TamAse aud those around him
shook with laughter. Pastor Talmarc. In a
WHISPER accused Llder Corwiu ot putting the
pln tr tlck ln IN" plaintiffs lawyers chair.
Brother Corwiu denied the allegation, and snid
something about d"fyuE the crocodile. Tai
mage said that be protested against such fun in
u court room. II was not the rghi place Tor IT,
He again accused Elder Corwin OF putting in
LIu q TINT
Ellcr Corw.u soto yocol-I never took such a
Pastor Talmace What NeverP
Elder Corwin-Ncyer.
Some Reporters What Never7
Elder Corwiu-Weil. hardly ever.
Tho tack episode put Talmage in n good hui
m9r and ns shot lck@s right ana leii at his
. | quarter II an hour oi a,twking the enemy by
; putting u tax In Lawyer Morris's chair.
: trying 10 prove that tho sunday school bought
. W scvernl 81. 900 mortgage bonds at a discount
OF from 10 - - yer cent. and turned them in 10
p. tho mass of subscriptions at their fnce value.
( adding also the difference between the price
a paid and the face OF the bonds ~ tho suhscrip-
. uHus % tnose from whom ~" bonds were pur-
chased. In this WAY. h. said. they made two
81 900 bonds count rs 81 500 toward the church
aepi. Stewart 4 Co.. Mr. Cogswoll, and Mr..
. Wood received 'pr their thousand-dollar bonds
: r'spe.tiyeiy 500 $500 and s75o. The Court
:. hri taai church has right 10 discount It's
n Mr.. Norris sought also to prove that these
bonds had pot been cancelled hy the church
but tnW they had been rehypothecatcd, and
wore still q valid and subssting debt on the
a church. They were payable 10 bearer. and
G We're IN the hands Of innocent persons. The
: Court held hat for the purposes OF the sub.
- scription In question they were as good as
. cancelled. having once passed in the Treasur.
y Under a ruling Of the Court that every sub.
scrIItion must be proven and that the lists
X could not b" thrown into the testimony. Iona
g and tedious examination Of many Subscribers
5. Wa- made. John H. Burnet swore that he b
. scrihed 800 on the condition that he had i've
= years 10 pay The amount in. and his brethren
4 wall Fuf IlrfF AL
u unless TO hal That time. lie heard George
- Hugg subs 'rihr $50
\ What terms were stated there? ?" asked
d u couldn't swear to the terms TO save my
neck. II could | would tell you" said tn,
Mr Geo Van Dobah, the payment Of who's,
subscription depended on his getting som,
e Vi Nichols. ". T. stout and JOS. s. RicharJsoI
testified in vcrillcation OF the subscription list
offered. The Court adjourned until to-day
IL " Does tho question involved in this sui
- nave taken To pay church debts throughout tn,
IS kmhall after the Adjournment
X Ar. himhalls answer was as follows;
= ." All giving for the cause Of God and for III,
" benefit N suffering humanity rests upon sucl
re- obligations rs are voluntarily assumed, without
b. special regard to the legal and enforceable DUAL
u ny ~ the contract IN each ease. Churches
missions, orphan asylums. asylums for tn
r r,st largely upon such pledges and promises
Il Human nature Is weak enough AT lis best. ever
~, after It is helped and stimulated by divn
o. grare-and for the law 10 interfere for the dc
W structlon OF such claims and sanctions Ms hav
n prompted mento nct from the highest and holi
)r est motives and teach them that the moral obi
. gntlon Is u nudity aud sham. Is 10 inlet al
u immense moral injury, and in fatal direction
such charitable and Christian works should b
ir crnn and free from all stain, and then mos
y carefully maintained by every lover Of God an
u. man.
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