Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1879-04-17


threat. He SAID the responsibility would
rest on the President and his party friends,
who in advance are endeavoring to make the
President step out of his way when there
was no purpose to interfere with the Presi-
dent or judiciary. The utterances as to
what the President would do were individual
opinions-mere idea words. The Presi-
dents duty was to consider bill fairly and
deliberately, and act accordingly.
Senator Hoar replied. The Senator from
Kentucky avoided-he would not say evaded
reading substantial and important sem
fences of his speech. Now the Senator said
that if the President should veto the bills
he would consult the wise men, not from the
East, but from the South.
Senator Beck-I shall not trouble the
Senator from Massachusetts.
Senator Hoar resumed, and after briefly
stating what the Senator from Kentucky had
said, repeated his question whether the Sena-
tor adheres to his purpose to refuse to
make the necessary appropriation to carry
on the government should the President
disapprove or veto the legislation proposed.
He (Hoar) had denounced such purpose as
revolutionary, but he had not denounced
the mere putting of legislation on appropri
alton bills. The programme of the Demo-
Gratis said in effect to the President You and
the judiciary shall have no pay; there shall
be no post Offices, courts and army if you do
not approve our measures.
Senator Beck replied that the difficulty
about the speech of the Senator was from
what he did not care to say till now, name
ly, simply not the truth. he never said the
Democrats would block the wheels of the
government if the President thought fit to
veto the bill in the exercise of his power
What he said last session was to show what
would follow if the Senate should refuse to
assent to the amendments of the House to
the two bills which failed to become laws.
He never uttered the words the Senator from
Massachusetts endeavored to put
into his mouth. What he said
was to induce the Senate to recede and not
to force an extra session. The visitor from
Massachusetts was trying to make it appear
that he (Beck) would refuse to pass appro-
priation bills if the President should not ap-
prove the business presented to him. The
Senator was trying to make false I'M
preston.
Senator Hoar remarked that he did not
propose to be diverted from making his
point by plantation manners, here or else
where.
Senator Beck-As that remark is SO orig
onal it ought to be noted.
Senator Hoar, inreply ito Beck's speech,
omitted essential parts of it.
Senator Beck, interrupting, said he had
made his final reply.
Senator Hoar remarked that the Senator
had to-day read from his speech in tone of
voice and manner which had alarmed nobody.
Senator Beck-Read it again. 1t is good
speech, and you can read we'll.
Senator Hoar-The Senator was speaking
of the purpose of the House in case ma
jority of the Senate refused to accede.
Senator Beck-And the Senator said was
speaking of the purpose of the Democrats
in case of the Presidents refusal to approve
| our bills
Senator Hoar, resuming, said re would
not extend to the Senator the same treat
nent he did to him by asking him to set
down. The purpose which the Senator I'M
dertook to report from the House was two
fold. First, what the House would do if the
Senate disagreed with them about the mat
ter of general legislation. It was that under
their constitutional right they would refuse
to make appropriations to carry on the gov
eminent if the dominant party should insist
on their disagreement, and further, the Sen
ator said under the view he presented, that
it was for the President to determine wheth-
or the wheels of government shall stop. The
Senator from Ohio (Thurman) regarded the
matter in the same light, saying they
claimed the right exercised by the House,
right !; had adopted a new plan of reconstruc-
ton and reconciliation. What had been the
result? The promise made by the South had
been broken, and the co,ored men to-day
had not single Representative in the
and would not vote the money of the people
unless coupled by measures for redress OF
grievances. Did the Senator from Kentucky
mean that they had the right under written
constitution to wrest the veto power from the
President? He (Hoar) had read the language
of the Senator, and had asked the Senator il
the position he took at the former session had
been abandoned, or was it his purpose tc
abandon it
Senator Dawes then addressed the Senate
He said the measures under discussion were
not the cause, but an incident of great popu.
lar feeling among the people. The present
administration had taken the South at its
word and promise that, if left to itself, il
would restore peace and harmony within its
borders and protect colored men in thei1
other house, where formerly they were rep.
declared the South had obtained exclusive
control Of affairs within it's limits under false
pretence, and instead of seeking to harmon
ize relations, the ultimate object was to de-
pr1ve the negroes of the right of suffrage
the whites taking every advantage of their
numbers to secure for the South repre-
sentation in Congress sufficiently large tt
control the policy of the dominant party
and gradually but surely bring back the stat
of affairs existing before the war. Senate
Dawes referred to the dangerous theory o
States rights which could be seen underly
! ing the attempts to deprive the genera
government of the right given it by the con
stitution to regulate actions for representa-
tives. He denounced that theory, an
held that we are nation, not confeders
ton of States.
Senator Eaton inquired of Senator Dave
whether Daniel Webster had not called thi
confederacy of States.
Senator Dawes replied that he was nc
) aware that he had, but he was aware that til
> constitution called it nation.
At this point Senator Dawes yielded
+ Senator Butler, who stated that his co
league, Wade Hampton, was present an
ready to take his seat.
8 Senator Hampton, on clutches, was le
3 forward by Senator Butler and sworn in
: the president pro tenn. CThurman), takir
: the modified oath.
r Senator Dawes, resumlng, said his frient
Q on the other side ought not to pirate abo
r the purity of the ballot-box until it was 70
|. gotten how 10000 Republican voters in tt
k State of New York were wiped out in 1868
il accordance with circular sent out befor
3 hand in the name of their chief, s. j. T.
= den, vino afterwards did not know anythil