, 1879-01-27

business than dealing with such rubbish IS that,
Il il no error. ITO wEtncss]-1 want to know X
yoy, took auy stcps, knowing this man had been
injured, to correct the injury before 1t reached
the publtct ..
A.-No. sir: did not publish anything until
after the affidavit appeared In the newspapers.
Q.-You knew this affidavit had been handed
to Gcn. 1hermaul
,A.-fcs, sir. -
Q.-usYc you ever called On blmt
A.-No. never saw him.
Asr. Pottcr-Dtd you 70 to shellabar9er and
eay, "Don't use that afIldayis. 1t 10 all wrong,
iii ]se. II will hurt Mr.. StenRcr"i
A.-No, sir. never did. don't say 1t Is ali
lie.
Afr. Dut1er-Is II not 3 liea .....
Witness-L+t me tell yon this: don't think
you should
STAND uP usau AND INSULT AE.
1fr. Duttcr-But We both ngrec that It Is lie,
don'f vel ...
Wituess-1 say It Is 4 mistake. You have tho
advantage Of nc now. and you know It. You
cannot tell me 1t Is lIo outside this room.
Mr.. Butler-Bus this WAS sworn untruth,
md you let II 70 out without taking tho means
TO correct It.; and Jou now say nobody could
talk to you like that outside this room. Il that
your answera
Al think you are treating mo rather rough.
and nn not In tho habit Of being treated In
that way, lot nc tell you. ..
tlcn. Butler repeated the first part Of his
question.
Witness said be didn't believe hc should an-
aver l9ain, and nobody should make = {mut-
tcrinr something about damned fine thtng).
Being pressed ho appealed to the Chairman
aeatn, saying ho had no intention OF doing
gtcnRer 40 injustice, and that It was mistake,
not lie.
Tho Chairman told him be must answer tho
question, but Gen. Butler helped the Witness
out Of hia difficulty by putting the question 10
another form, md witness stated he informed
GOV. Cox The affidavit Was wrong before he saw
1t pubflahcd.
ill. Reca-UutM this affidavit was published
IN tho newspapers It was before tho COMMITTEES,
and Il wns your intention to CORRECT 1t when you
were called1 .-
A.-Ycs; II had tried to correct II l should
hAvo had to make tie matter public.
hfr. Springer observed that Dlr. Reed was CIV
Ing leading questions. .....
Gen. Butler again took UP the cross-examina-
ton, and In reply to him witness said while at
New Orleans he gave stengcs to understand
that ho (witness) haa to buy witnesses; that he
bought Asnatead and Stewart; md That awayso
wa1tcd $1,000 for his testimony. ue nevcr
told Stcugcr right out, except about tho last
named witness.
Mr., f]iscock-You assumed, when talking
with BtcnRcs, he know a. much nbout what
was being done with these witnesses al Maddox
did1
Tho Chaiemnn-Thut ia not what he says.
though.
IItsoock-I believe it's what he means. DID
you. Mr.-sIr.-Mr. 81. Alarsinl
Wltness-Yes, sir.
Mr. uiscock-When you mado that affidavit
you had concluded from certain facts that
Htcnger kucw witnesses wcro being corrupted
A.-Ycs.
Mr. Bpripger--You say in your affidavit that
duriog the entire session Of tho Committee In
Ncw Orleans Maddox, Gibson, md Carter wcso
busy influencing witnesses BY means OF offers
Of money. Low did you know Nj. uibaon was
doing I'll
A.-well, he did IL with mo, aud could Judge
Q.-Did you sec him influencing othcrs1
A.-No, sir; but all these got tAeir money
from him to pay witnesses.
Nj. nlscock-You wcro drawing your conclu-
eIons from these fattat.' 't'' -
Ayes. r''-"..'
Mr. Hprin9er-Then It IL not truo3
AL think It is true.
Q,-What want witness to swear to Is facts,
not conclusions.
As-Wcll, saw him pay swayse. He dtanot
hand tho monsy to him. It was handed to him
by ulbson's orders, though.
4 rELKunAN.
Tho Chsirmau-I havc asked Ackleu whether
he sent the telegram which has boon referred
70, aud NOW beg to hand It over.
Tic telegram WAS a. follows:
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