The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-02-06

$4,000 The portion that reads. For Gods
make ono understand that | was anxious to
hnyo i ago i should be printed without any
Ny idea @ was not TITO To DO u ths If Sy we ycoTd SPdbS be-
snLe in the other two States.
BY MIR. Reed-I think that az II stands. II con-
| Veys the idea YOU now give to IT,
Witness,-lt seems to me that as printed 1t
conveys the opposite. My idea was for them
safo in the other States. The original despatch
is very plainly signed NJ, instead Of W.. and |
cannot ten what change. any. the two words
| W. found misprintcd would have upon IT,
,Q.-lIayo you ever examined what the Tribune
claims was the kcy2 Did you have any but one
| cipher? A.-No; only one.
Q.-lave you examined tho kcy? Ayes.
Q.-Can you recognize il? Al cannot. OK
| ccpt ny its working. 1t works out that which
! Is. rs said, In many cascs a substantial rcndi-
ton OF whm meant. | do not recall it as n
| transposttiOn Of words ] recOcct. Just what
numbers were transposed cannot say.
Q.-lt WAS what we call tran-postion
| cipher? At was n trnnspostion cipher.
| with substitution OF words and things which
| woro then transpOscd. cannot recall the sys-
By Mr. Springer--Can you not point out the
| errors in the trans! !atgn Of the dispatches sent
| from BaltimoroY Al think did. Tho first
Il entirely lnistranslatcd. 1t did not refer 10
| that mnitcr at nll.
Q.-What was the correct meaning of that
| oneP Al could not toll you II had sone-
| thing to do with the courts. All those words
were words Of arbitrary meaning, For in-
l
By Mr. srrnSerIpid Gen. G"rdon iG' have the
/ key to the cipher A-As | said. when | left.
they wanted to bc in communication with the
| National Committee with reference to certain
| iuHal proceedings commenced at that time and
l made an 9rhlirary cipher | could not tell
you who held thattkey, but from the fact that !
directed "a" despatch 70 Gen. Gordon should
say It was with him. But It had no reference TO
the subject " the Returning Board or anything
connected with it in any shape or manner II
was for another purpose. / did not desire to
| let anybody there know | had the other telc-
By Mr.. Springer-Did YOU ever have any con-
vcrsation with Con. Gordon respecting your
| negotiations with Hardy Solomon? A-No. sir.
l have said So distinctly.
plied To- that subioctY A.-So far as know. he
did not know there was such man as solomon
In the world. or that he had gone North with
me. The othor despatch from Baltimore is also
misreprosented In the Tribune. and mutilatcd.
Tho signature is very plainly NJ in the original.
Its translation il not at all correct. The entire
idea intended 20 be conveyed by 1t is with refer
cnce To tue proceedings In court. II had no
reference to the matter between Solomon and
myself
Q.~Who is Pope, mentioned hero ? Al
do nG remember. That was a part Of the
arbitrary clpher | left with them Whether
Haskell or Kennedy. or whoever 1t wns. don't
O.~Who was HaskellY Ale was Chair.
man ~ the Democratic Central Committee Of
that state ut that time.
that either. After this length oi time | cannot
say. There WAS man named Pope. n prom
/ lnNut man IN tlN Demo 'ruilf party. n lawyer
living at Columbia But don't believe il re.
fcrrcd TO HIM but was simply portion Of the
arbitrary cipher.
Pope, as one YOU ever receiyedR Al hav,
no recollection ot receiving II. was here. and
at the Everett House. on the 2lst. On the Goth
was not | have no doubt that despatch was
opened by anybody who happened to bo Al
Q-You SEQ the 7riJtme's rendering Of that
despatch. DO you rccOllect receiving any de-
spatch the correct rendering Of which would
FtKnf t.a fruf aIuf fl.F.u ults lac IN
That | cannot say. As | have said. there wa.
money wanted by those gentlemen 70 subprnl
witnesses. 10 do their printing and for genera
Rnrpnnsss pn . 2.1saininf IN t M s ii ti
raise II whom got here. But my recollection 1,
very decided that There WAS no such sum wantct
rs 5000 ! should cay IL WIS 81 900. or poesi
by $4,000; but have no positive recollection
Q-The money was 20 he raisel for lcgitimai,
| purpusrf? 4. Entirely so. They were poor
They were required To gct anidaNiis ml over th'
State. tn obtain witnesses, N -. ana they Az
pealed To- nc-H'n. Gordon did saying thcl
Wore poor and the National tlmiuiitre shout,
help them ami said would Try to get them 1.
| do 10. bat they noNHr dld,
Q..lt had NJ relerencc to buying out -
q. ANY member Of the Losislaturo2 A.-No
Or buyln. anybody? A.-No. sir Il ha.
no reference To any improper purpose in th
Q-NS,r the iosratch marked ~. on page 20
aal state II you recoilcc receiving any suci
Wines lrcalInsl
s.1 Wet ~ ~ H,a~, v T.
w. Gink a.m '1ar, sIi c.o., t',i3it,w aai put s.
pies majority "a we lIouse ani probably aeguiic tah
A.-No. SIR Hero a long timo WAS spent II
sorting out desaitchcs, the mrmh'rs Of IN
, Committee gathering copies into little separHt
} plies. and tho witness by the ChairMan'- direc
lion. l,Ing through The elithosraphic book OF iac
similcs ana mutEinE such dispatches as h
Q recognized rs his own.l
a .tk.4 atts my ~ IIg IN
! "Mcnd?" Al 40 not think ! did. ,,hQu2l
that is my middle naiac and | might hay
! O.-Thcse telegrams which you recognize a
copies of Your own soma of them. are include
among the Flori Ia dispatches
Mr.. Hiscork-l d. not think these are in
tended 10 be limited to the Florida despatchns
The Chairman-l do not think it is 50, in
tended, but ! wish II 20 appear on the record.
Witncss-It may not he So intended. but thor
IS one despatch there in my handwriting. date
! there. as | was not in that state R all
, Mr., Springer-ln the Il1bnne publication, OF
page 2, 4 is sfli with reference to your acts, $
= Subsequently a ulot was formed 10 buy f0u
! members Of the South Carolina Legislature fo
, f2n 900. and haSn. thus obtained control of tn
. State Govern neut to pat the liuyes electors /
Jail and lock them up IN separate coils unt
9 passed" state whether any such plot ms IN,
: was known 70 you or arranged by you wit
reference To that legislature A.-None whq
over. II il stacd hero In the context 50 tnat tn
= fair inference is that the dispatches show wha
q / had to do with il. hut when you como
y read the dispatches thdre are mono OF thol
y whatever from no or to me that intimate th
. slightest knowlndge Of such thing. and ha
y nothing tO do with H.
Q.-Dii you at that time Ihave any knowedg
Of any plot % that kind2 A.-NO sir.
= Q.-Whcn since did YOU first learn OF such
plot having been in existence. II there was anN
9 thing oi the sorti Al have no recollection
y over hearing Of il until | read this book orsOn
! Of the prior publications of the Tribune
u Q.-fhon. 80 fAr Rs you ara concerned. III
: statement Is entirely without foundations A..
Yes. sir.
Q-Tho hrst telegram hero that you point ol
/, a. Yours Is addressed to MIR, Henry Havcmcyr
o and signed s. Is that translation in tho TribU
20 cnrrhct2 Tho witness read II from his mani
Il scrit ns reproduced in tho Autographed boo
~ while Mr. Springer compared his reading wit
5 tho Tribune print, which was as lollowsl
u ColusHIA Nov. 10
Leniv Hurmeysr, - Hrd Srenissnh street. hsr lofk,
:, France Musee over man ercatesi tNrr with am RIM
~ eNrruuus Is there tul m MT here poNcr made sta
are chances where that be have should cunndc
> Rhine morning IN France hr courcrt success ls Il
=, municaton Europe tor NRrsawed ON act AMI that clio
ami in for 3
p. MIR. Sprngcr-Now look at that translate
n, aud see II IL Is correct.
Il Witness lreadngi-
~ Am confident that Florida is State where greatest
ortiuns should be made. Have you man with ul pow
a errr Chances not over one IN twenty here but
ihAmbt Ilaln. KELLOGG, and Spar