, 1879-06-20
THE KIEDIyE'S POSITION.
vtnws Of Returned Ex:Grnerai Of tho
Egyptian Army-A Native tsnvcrnmcnt
Determined ttpon for tho Future

AEH lHfk TfFTtH+ IHff Ia
4 nnn nf tnark arrived IN this CITY On 5atur.
day last In tue person OF Gen. William VIM.
Lorins, lase Ut the KlcdlYc's army. ten. Lot.
Ing INV In l,fs t5Iss year, has been soldier fnr
for.y.two years, nnd In. fought tn SIX wars. lie
cf,,nc. ot an Old Southern family, and was In the
Confederate army during tic late Rebellion. lie
was the first .nan to lake a tl,dy pf mounted
tuvatsY aeross ille Rocky Mountains. For ten
ytara he Inns held tho rank u fcr1Ik f.acha, The
highest military rank In Egypt, ncyt to that Of
the k!,cdiyc. Ten. 1.orfny Left Exybt In April
last nnl stner that limo us beci, rcv.sittNr Con.
ttnel,snl capitals. lie Inns now cotnc huns 10 set
t1e down u!kt end b!t dIys In wci1cnr,tcd peace.
A HeraEd reporter fo,,.,1 Gen. LorIng board
i,,g In West Fourtcrnth street, In the satnc
lou ,c vItl, ex Senator Gcor1e j., Spencer. who
married his t.ierc. Miss May hnnrz. When
nskett for his vfuws Ut i!ic khetltye's quarrel
with ttc English AMI frencl! deputasion he
replied:
''fn the first p|nec,'' said he, "thc Kiledivc
was nut, uf fabulous wealth and progressive
Ihea>. On ',ts s,wr estates he ctanloyta Esao0
fiblrrrs a'Hi 1o.nD catnclst hlld bv lad the
larEeat 6t'gar rctiuercs asl mills IN t''" world
IFS nataees were exseustye aud magnificent.
md hp bnflt them with Ills own money. Then.
for tho besIcft Ut biz peortc 1ir dug canals elEi't.
docks nnl railroads, schUnl-hnuscs. nfl,t nEEnn-
lied an army u ~, GOu mcI. To do nil thls re.
t,nrcd more u,uueY ti,nn even lie possessed, 90
he wns Obliged to borrow. There was s:nall
national debt when he catne to the throne. This
lie Increased first u'I1 laat to 4toD.U1O,GsN+ not
more shan ot,c'i,af of which egcr, reaehed hi,n,
having to pass through 10 many hanls. WITH
s.et Il debt to conErnd with Egypt had hnrd
struggle. Tlc ptopc were dissatisfied, and
t1irrc were R}rna of Ftottal. GuselIcn nnl Jn1i-
bert, tlle English alid French tlnaiclcrs who
caH.c over to ilGp liIil out VI Ese difficulties.
told 1llH tho frat sny to be doun was to ret rit
OF Saisaik Packa. thu Minister OF Finance, fanll-
iar'y called sioctislt. The nsofctiell arose from
the people;. hc was originally tc'1ah. hQt had
H. rus = great iavorite wIt, the pcopic, who
loycG hin hettcr thai tttcy did lllu Khcdivc
ut that tttlc. Tie khc'liyc thought oyer what
hs a'siscrs Ind sat i,,,, as', "lth Wa,a,i1s i to
ttr,yo omt With hin, They rode out to .l,e out.
skirts Of the Town, when the kbcdlre stcpped
ouL Ut tie casriagr.. which was immediately
surrounded ny EItusl, alnl Moirtfsh l,as never
bcen leSsti of trunl that day to this. bptne say
hut c wns dropped into tie Nils; others ,thnt
lie WAS iaken up t1lc river - 5o!nc lonely place.
wttrc tlr drink h!mseif 10 death. Pour fellow
think he hal sonie tJen uf bis impending
tloD,I!, for he taHu tn me the morning 81 his
fatal ride null snsrczcd my hind N though ha
never would let go. lie was very rich. tic
ttllt half mile oi palaees IL Cairo, which werc
furnished with gorEcousntss i,ssana the ue.
srriution u my pen sure that ~htcfl wrote tlg
shrablan Ntshts.' IN .llcso palaces be had 3uo
wives, who are lift to rnturu his loss. do nut
b!atnc thu Kbedive. Guscncn alll Jonbcrt are
the ones responsible for tue lIic of saiiik
Inrlia. Ifcy sufd 'ict rid 0f him. and the
kLetli1e uL9ycd. Perhaps they did not know
nrtf 0t II dangerous inas. The people who
Judge Tie Khr,llse harsllly fur this act do not
take Tie circumstances into ronslderatlon."
"1Vlnt do yuu th!nk OF tl's successors Oh
"prrsnuallY, like Mcssra. R!yes Wilson nlltl
Blfrnicrcs exceedingly, but think they were
| mistaken IN their policy. They catlle over to
Exy.h with s,i,all army q clerks. Whon they
| lng from II, ,UJ0 to E5.0N. Instead Of reducing.
tbcy nuly Increased the csptnscs OF State, u1,d
rot Egypt Into terrible condt!cn. Il the
| Khedtru tl1L not turned them out nix! taken
there would hare been rebellion. Tile people
wrre ripe for IT, NIL lle letter written by the
prctcndur, Ills uDclc, lialnin Iachu. suggested
d successor should tle Ficcrov. uc de-
ilad loo many docturs, and has been m1dc
| n Acapegoat by tlle iIatoHs to whom sle Is In
| lebted. The khedlyc is one Of the fcw sor.
eyelgtls xllo rcalty arc depressed by dcnt Ind
want to pay wtms they o'sc.. hut l'.s creditors 1
| Sc, each natlon rntacs nloug, and, taking pboT
little EgYpt Ia her teeth, nearly shnkc the ltf.:
| ullt Of lier No one can manage Eeyntian af-
| fairs rs we'll as the khedtve% Of that n1n con
YIt,ced after careful studY Of the question:
| nsIett The reporter.
fng Ills right hand down ul''n Ills knees win
emphasis, "is to govern Egypt with natlyc minis
tegs a!us advisers, ald tn uFelcf fls own lfastea
aArr Egyptians particularly Intelligent"
"'rhey arc llte Intelligent up TO certain
point ad they ara reMa1kay clever a !ear.!. ;it'
tara Of tl: benefits of ed'catan, aud send t!,e'e
sons 10 Uxi0rtl, Ediuhusg, Nienna, allsl Other
| ,.laces where there are good c1iieEess ut they
do not profit ypry much by It. They come lua'c
return 10 their hurems aud very sel!o'lt tntng!e
| With tue world. Ii any que calts They rcctiyu
hlnl alone, sending all The women nut 1l tia
Huy and then tkey will talk HluFal!ty ~ the
,hcr morailty, bilci, Is It ID. know iEat' who
sail Ills prayers i've timer day 1or eight years,
aud washed lila hands md feet each time, and
was considered very religious fet 10 dta not
ttiul: 1t wru,ig to le when 10 could bd Of use
| Or to client The Government"
".Tt!ers aro wolves In sbeup's clothing every.
where" reflected tito reporter. "bnt Il you arG
not tired Of answering questions Will you tell
ma why the khcalse tnok 90 many foreigners
'Tn Introduce culture anu Intelligence Into
Egypt. But, aftcr ali, T. is he, personally ard
alonc, wlu bus accomplished everything. Whe!
l,c was surrounded By eutsidera ho WI natod M
| Now, az hc truly SAYS Egypt TOR tho lfss TIM
has popular soyerelen.'n
Vino ntnong tho outsiders arc Ills favor'
iteaa"
| "'rhe Americans, unnuea.lonnbly: and bc has
| proved IL bY Inviting all to return who wert
there before. Tie reason tor this Tas that aIs
kucn tho American Government lad no ends te
serve, nn,l tllA1 her representatives were Inert
Ut tl,e.r own free will. Jhe AralM slwuSs csrat
10 Us whom they we're iu troubte.h
s.Ilew Oil IL tho khesltyu ulid what sort ol
| !uaa - he personality"
- liz Is about u years OF age now, md re-
narkablf st,le man. Of qNtrt. cnsy habits and
| rovl c.!gntitn, Education is onu VI hs hob
llss, and lle has Ills ridrpn taught even atlcl
tlry uru married. Although quite Euroueu,f II
na1,y ways, ho continues to keep TITS hare1n
Whenever ot,e OF Tho WOMEN 0f tho 1Areul bcart
child hr acknowledges 1t us lts, aNu 1t Ii takus
to u palas nparL anu brought Nn rs y IncnlbcE
uf t!Ie iioyal IimIy, liu Is exceedingly brfa II
his ideas, A,nl las hal tilu p1rtralts of HI!
Quccus h daughters painted antl their phot.'
graphs taken. One OF t's Queens has ESTABLISH,
I'd seminary where t0l young girls nre belns
educated, which Is against the dtrcct tcaeli'i.
Ut No,aul1ned. Hu docs not object to Ill
| Quee,ls glytlI;, their photographs. away either
Wheu Gen. t;rant was in Egypt Mrs, t;rMnt ys
itrI tbs tluecus III tilrlr palaec, nlsl, being par
| ticuiasy pleased will unu Ut llstn, asked 10
her photograph, which Mis- given without hesl
| tailyI."
"Wcrc you In EgYpt during Grant'a r!sit!"
"rcs, ! Was at the station tho tiay the tienera
| nrrIyr1 at fuiro. AMI III FguDTExrH 1Nt III al