New-York tribune., 1879-04-11
THE PROCEEDINGS


NJ Crosby was recalled at the opening OF
Yesterdays session. He testified that he had had q
conference with Mr.. Talmage together with the Com
| mon Fame Committee
MIR. McCuagh offered in evidence stenogr'phc
report of this conference. II objected to- and the
moderator said the part relating to the seyent
| specification was admissible.
DIR Van DYKE made q motion that the whole report be
read in the interest OF truth and fairness " don't
propose" he said. TO let the cOunsei Oh eIthoi sc o
| me what is relevant"
| DIR. Van Dykes motion was carried and Mr crosby
read the report. The conversation with Mr.. Tanage
was conducted in the main by nv Crosby Mr VT wal Ia
| matter was clear rs sunlight, and c0ud De
| proved by witnesses to be so In ten minutes.
s position was unpleasant and he resolved 10 leave IN
lane 1876. AT that time he wrote vdedctOry, but
prominent patron Of the paper urged him to op0s:pone
| his withdrawal until Autumn. lie agreed 10 give
n months notice, and at that time gave four months
notice In October he made an arrahGenent WIN Ihe
The Christian al Work went 10 press That evening he
went to the Office with written yaledictory, and
% knew 10 t6af 5af wond 6aye no other
! tnniiy to publish r valedctory He was not not
! i'm tLe office two minutes aud knew nothing OF the
advertisement OF Tie Adrance. Ia regard TO the an
nounceen that pcws were assigned without reference
! ne made such announcement, but he added
| mat every person was expected to pay what ne
t0 OF eases where persons had had the best seats and
Only paid by what they put on t6e contribution plate
ssS .1S were sent in good faith. AID he
wonid do the same hing agig IN ,,iil, nke
asn OF the congregation. II his nephew could not pay
the amount he was prepared 10 pay 1t himself lie dd
| not know that he had bad any difficulty wlih
Mr. Hathaway. The whole thnS he SAID
naeged Int never fet So peaceful about anything A.
long as he continued preach in his way he would be
SsIG @SqT'g1 oofb ao if I Il undertook to stand as his
sponsor The devil would be- stirred up all the time
because he Nr Tamagc had stirred up the powers Of
|
| was assaultod-One was 10 assault those VINO
| attacked him, and the other was Chrlsrs
| wsv-to answer not again. The only thing when
| numbered hun In his work was Tie Brook
vI Prcsbytrry. In tie o. the conversation Mr.
| Talmaee sand that there were ministers "a whom he
| had greater confidence that In DR.. Wells and MI
TnI,nago .aid that he believed Mr. Crosby be hos
tile him because OF bis intensity IN the mater OF the
rumors Mr. Crosby denied that he had any personal
anmoslfy toward MI Ialmage, and said that he had
righteous indignation III regard TO the rumors.
MR. CROSBY DECLARED RASH AND PCGNACIoUs
A. soon as the rerort had been read Mr. McCulagh
sold "That Is ALL" The crossexamination was begun
by Mr. Mnlard who said that Mr. Crosby appeared in
the case az complainant prosecutor and witness The
Book Of Discipline warned them against receiving
a complaint from a rash lie proposed TO show
that Mr.. Crosby was rash and pugnacious man, and
asked some questions in regard to difficulty which
the witness admitted having had with some theological,
professors at NewirunsWck Before the witness piol
e Sled TAR d. Van Dyke objected. and the testimony
o-Dr. Tamage stated to the committee, did he not,
that work of grace going on In his church Al
Q-And You thought it would not be interfered with
by making charges against himi Al supposed So.
O-Y0u thiuk such a trial as this Is a means 0f grace
iISuehtcr1 Al haven't had control o. this trlal 1t
would have been very different tfiii II had.
Q.-Iou iet called upon 10 tell Dr. Ialnago now TO
prcachl A-Oh. no; II had | wouldn't nave brought
o-How could Or. Talmage know that he was TO bo
charged with falsehOJd and dCcciti A.-Inosc were
the charges which floating III the air and through
OWN whom did you consult before introducing
with some members OF this Presbytery, and with
or two others not connected with IL.
Own y0n name tbeml Al viii not.
Dr Speaf-i might raise tie question here whether,
when witness refuses 10 answer pertinent questions,
he does not subject his whole testimony to be stricken
ont. But | will not raise IL at this time.
Q-Who drafted the charge aud specifications against
Q.-Was there at that time any public rumor in refer
enct to the fourth specification Al think not
oreanst Al think there was.
Q-Doui you think that the statement attributed TO
sarcasm Al did not tnmk so, or would not have
advocated putting this IN as a specification.
Q-Mr Crosby want to ask YOU upon your honor.
n you do regard that seventh specification fry
ol6us A.-No. SIR do not
Dr. spear-Then you disagree with the whole
Mr.. crosby-I don't think do I disagree with you.
10 submit tho matter. to three ministers emf
nently Christian propostoni Al have no criticism
10 make upon II.
o-Why did you feel specially Jealous about bring
ing this matter before Presbyteryt Al had felt
the criticism OF ministers and laymen Of other denom
nations who SAID that the Presbytery
s duty and thought that ought to initiate
action.
Dr. Butler objected TO questions in regard 70 tho wit
nesss opinions and DR. Spear said that the witness had
been immensely Interested IN starting tho movement.
and had shown immens" amount Of zeal. and be- as
counsel. had right 10 bring out the anDus OF his
mind II would be unjust 10 hts client TO deprive him
of tha' right.
RairoHd last Summer that Dr.. TalmHge vas liar and
"a scouudrell Al have 10 recollection Of saving sO
Q.-Iaye you not said since january that you in
tended to drive DR.. Ta Image ot the Presbyterian
Church. out of BROOKLYN or out oftle Brooklyn Pres
bytery. or words 20 that effect A.-NO, sir.
Sir. Crosby was then dismissed. and the Rev. j MI
Greene called 10 testify In reference tO
yersatiOn between himself aud Mr.. Iamage about the
rum0rs concerning him at the spring meeting Of the
Presbytrry In 1878.
DE- spear objected hut the moderator ruled that the
testimony relevant. SIR. Greene stated that he
denyored a. induce Dr. Tanage to take the initiative in
the matter DIR. Talmage oppOseh 10 this, and said
that IL would be an injury 10 him and ms work.
J. Il Morris and r. Il. Levoridge also testified in
regard to the sixth qualification. The defence then
admitted that Mr.. 1Smaee paid about SD for
running the presses order TO get the edition
OF The Christian at Work containing his vale
dictory Are there any other wItnessesI" inquired
the moderator. "Wel" said SIR Crosby I'VE ut
lOs account OF the failure OF some Witnesses 10 ap
pear here. They stated TO me the facts to @hich
wan ted tuem 10 testify. They must either have made
false statements TO me-oT else their testimony must
be so damaging TO DIR. Tamage."
At this point be was interrupted by hsscs, and Mr.
MldTd sprang mp with " object"
DR.. Spear-Mr Crosby must not impeact these wit
nesses by assigning reasons or their absence Ia order To
relieve himself from his Owl uppelsantncss.
The prosecuting counsel said that they had other
matters which they would probably wish 70 Introduce
10 adjourn until Monday afternoon.
A Coloro6o manor cove. otn Ep0licbnop