The New York herald., 1879-07-12
THE STATE DEMOCRACY.

L demOcr1Ilc conventions
the Kings county delegation has had great weight;
partly it voted Is unit. but largely becsuse
it was known to be rapport with Governor Tiiden
and against Tamnany Hall. Prominent In the dele
CATION was Thomas Kinsens, member Of the COM
mttee the personal confdant OF Mr.. Tlden. . trus-
tee of the bridge and editor of the democratic organ
During the past six months differences the State
have found their echo in Kings county. and the
original omission OF Henry O. Murphy's name from
the bridge directorate directly trsoesble TO the
antT Tilden feeling. Last evening. on q bench down
by the beach. far away from the thousands who
made the Hotel Brighton bot. HERALD reporter
discovered Mr.. Kinsela poking holes In the sand
with his cane. Approaching the writer said-"Mr.
Knsella. would like to talk with you little on
national aud State politics." as 3 a.-e
'Please DON'T" replied the man with the cane
"Pd much prefer writing my name in the sand"
But the reporter was inexorable and with sturdy
grace the victim lighted cigar and said. .-Go
..It seems" said the writer, "to be conceded all
around that there is great deal OF internal trouble
in the democratic party In this State, and that the
row may lose the State to the demociscy. What IL
your theory Of the cause of the QuarrelY To which
Mr. Kiusslla replied, swell. the direct cause 10 the
attempt that made in the State Convention
which met Albany in 1877 to settle then and there
as as possible who should not be the candidate Of
the democracy for President in 1880"
Glow was the attempt madeg"
s.In setting aside the candidates for State officers
who supposed to be preferred by Tilden. and
who were known to be favored by Governor Robin
son. in a hardly concealed attack made upon Tilden
on the floor Of the Convention. by accomplished
orator, who somewhat unexpectedly appeared as
delegate from Tammany Ha-a gentleman who was
widely known to have been Tilden's bitter enemy.
A.
canal rat in the State felt that he had got
square with "Old Sammy" and Tammany Hall boasted
that it had had its revenge for its discontinue
at st. Louis. The Presidential issue Of 1880 was
dragged into the politics of this State in 1877. It
has been there since and 1t is there yet and
do not how 1t is going to be got out. The blum
der made in 1877 nearly cost the democrats the state
that Year. it cost the State last year and will
leave the contest doubtful best this year up the
day after the election. row In the State Con-
vention, which will settle the contest in advance
against the democratic party. is among the possi-
bilities."
"But suppose Tildens friends should not have the
strength to make contest in the next Convention,
suppose they should not have the disposition to
do so, would not that end the trouble?'
mo. it would transfer 1t from the party leaders
revolt at the polls The whole case may be summed
up very briefly The democracy Of this State do not
pretend to be divided on this question-that Tfden
rightfuly and legally elected President Of the
United States and was cheated out OF that Office
not politicians who believe that their party should
right this wrong il it can To set Tilden aside In
his own State in advance is to ostentatiously pro-
claim that so far us the democratic party is con-
cerned, it does not mean to fully right the
wrong. Setting aside Tiidcn. in advance of the
National Convention, in his own State. IL o con-
doneinent Of half the wrong. and when one-half of
1t is condoned by those who suffered by it the other
half will be left to take of ITSELF Tamany Hall
and the old 'Cannalcrs' think they are hghting
Tilden. and they think they his hand in every
petty political movement In truth they are fighting
"A yigllaut human being
be- for they are fighting the logic of events. They
are contcnding with the plain common sense of plain
man--that the fraud committed in 1876 shall be
rghted; that at least the judgment of the Ameri-
can people shall be taken on it. and that it
shall not be set aside. covered up and
conioned in Tilden's State. Tammany Hall
aud its allies may triumph in the next State Conven-
beyond the influence of Tilden's opponents and
beyond the reach of Tildens influence. for it is
q singular thing OF this that his personal fol-
lowing is less than that of any public man OF emf
nence who has ever figured in our affairs. The very
shadowing issue will tell you that they don't care
straw for Tilden personally. The ordinary demo-
crat has excuse for acquiescence in foul wrong.
which cannot be successfully repeated without de-
stroyng our form of government, except in his de-
Termination to seek its punishment ia the old
American fashion by the condemnation OF the
people"
democrats in 1880, II Tiden IL not ronomnated?
'.No; that is not my position. If Mr.. Tden's
case--or rather that OF the democracy itsef-is
fairly submitted to the Judgment of national con-
dict viii be- accepted, even IL it should be against
Tiiden. by those who think now he is entitled to .
denomination indeed. can imagine contingencies
in Wow of which the wsrmest supporters of Tilden
would not press his nomination.. But hearing the
ana accepting the verdict Is thing, and de-
hying hearing of his case ana accepting that
ns Anal is another. The opponents of Tilden
IN IN shis state are aessrmined shat New iork
nris the claims Of Mr.. Tflden y national conven-
ton Of his party If they can help y. Yet Mr. Tilden
Is citizen of this State he is the list OF candi
oates certainly; he has bscn elected Governor of the
State by So 900 majority ana he carried 1t as Pres,
Dental candidate by 5000; he was elected presl-
dent and he cheated out OF his office. and his
supporters are to be denied the right bring these
ISSUES before convention OF his party--thai is.
Tilden is to be denied delegation from his own
State--and Tammany Nall and its allies propose 10
@ and to hs State Thsre
manhood in this scheme; there are politics
in it, .."rr. .tt 80 r..
'The present Executive, Mr.. Robinson. and the
present Lieutenant Governor, William Dorshener.
There among others who deemed to he avail
able, Judge church Carkson n Potter and General
sloctm who may have the advantage OF locality in
(which of tho gentlemen named is likely to secure
the support Of the Kings county democracyT
''But i'll the conventpnY' rlaf ft ~
e''Thst can't tell; there mas not been much talk
complications. regard Kings county a. to speak.
Church county. fhe Judge is regarded with AZ
fection by many of tho old leaders and rising
young mon OF the party hero like him. The young
mon for him against Ttlden anybody else
In 1874 aud the older leaders could not have got
delegation away from him IL it were not Tor the
fact that he could not be induced to bo candidate
Governor Robinson 10 . strong man In the three
Long Island counties. probably the that
be named. His integrity is undoubted and he
TO have knack OF making his official utter
plain to plain inen. The Governor has served
one term acccptaby. Kings county will not busy
itself IN devsiny reasons foI making u change
which the etiquette usage of politics will not
justify. Mr. Dorsheirner has many friends in
Kings county. and hc would receive united and
even an enthusiastic support from his party here.
IL the democrats in all the other counties were In
the temper in Kings ihere would 30 no
great aiiiculty In making choice OF candidates, il
necessary, and carrying the state ut the tinc
"but you seem disposed to think that Mr.. Robin.
will be renoniinafcd -
''I think he will"
a"Will he be re-olected 20 .af.
without any doubt. IN my mind" t.t. .A
ssMIth TammAnY pgAinst him ~