The New York herald., 1879-08-07
THE EX-KHEDIVE.

INTERVIEW WITH THE LATE RULER OF EGYPT-
HE TELLS HIS TROUBLES TO AN ITALIAN
HIS CONFIDENCE IN THE FUTURE OF THE
LAND OF THE PHARAoHs. r
Signor Nicola Lazarro. brother of the we'll known
Deputy of the Italian Parliament. Giuseppe Lazarro
and one of the editors Of the Roma. OF Naples. re-
ports the details Of interview he had recently
with the deposed Kaedive of Egypt. He says:-I
was invited to meet 1smah Pacha at eleven A. NJ.
Hardly had arrived board of his yacht when he at
once invited join him at the stern, and general
conversation followed. His Excellency seated in
high rocking chair. and surrounded by numerous
officers. He vas dressed in European costume, with
the Turkish overcoat. black pantaloons and patent
leather boots, and wore fez. Seeing enter he
rose and led into small cabinet Heie he seated
himself upon nicely upholstered divan. beckoned
to be seated near him and handed me cigar. While
smoking and seated together in this manner we had
a long conversation. lasting for over an hour. His
Excellency told me that he had come to Naples
because he had been compelled to leave Egypt. He
had asked tho Sultan for permission to 90 to Con-
staatinople or to any other reading city in Turkey,
but his reqrests had d been unanswered Being thus
NO doubt, lew months in Naples.
GOSSIP ON Politics.
After disposing or this preliminary conversation
began to talk politics at last. He then informed
the Interference of the Powers i'll the lfairs
OF Egypt had more than three years ago
fusion in the administration. The last Cabinet, of
which Nubar Pacha Premier, brought matters
to such crisis that disturbances ensued. In this
state OF affairs ne naturally had to adopt severe
measures, which displeased the Powers and hence
resulted the diplomatic rupture. 'But. asked
what was your object In arming the militiaY mot
to make war" ne said, that was impossible" ="
But you only mad England and France occupying q
hostile attitude and these two Powers not of
sccordy' 'But." he said. "either of these two
Powers too much forsme'
THE CONDUCT or THE coSsUIs
"And then" he continued, "wnilc negotiations
progressing the consuls Of France ana England
told first In friendly. then in official manner
that the crisis could only be overcome by my abdi-
cation. The Consuls of Germany anu Austria then
did the same. At last CAME the Italian Consul, who
Joined his colleagues by order OF his government 4
my powers derived from the Sultan,
and that he alone could decide the question.
1 teegfaphed 60 Constantinople. and IN reply
received the appointment of my Khedive
new state OF affairs. he said --Egypt will pay all
debts. Her resources have not been wasted ~ has
been charged in some quarters. My son Is youngi
he energy and tact and his ministry IL composed
of honest men who love their country. BUT you
cannot force him into anything nor annoy him.
winch the country desires. Egypt, In less than two
three years. will have paid her debts and viii move
steadily in the paths of civilization aud progress
You cannot imagine what difference there ~ be-
the Egypt OF to-day and that OF fourteen
ago. A perfect revolution has taken place" When
asked him whether he thought that the abolition of
the rman OF 1873 would injure the tuture prospects
OF Egypt, he frankly told Inc that he couid not ex-
press an opinion In regard to this The ex-khedive
is y very sympathetic man; he wears q full beard,
which IL turning somewhat gray, and when he
speaks no generally closes the left eye. He il
excellent French linguist.