, 1879-01-19

llc ilS5t>&a1N iHc HcpaEktNGUG Ill LuelF CQuE4.lO
and religious tcaching: bur to turn over tn
warlikc Indians and agencies to the War d.
rartment, which must be called in wheneve
there is either danger or actual outbreak.''
ould placing an arHr officer In charge q
such Agencies answer the same surposef"
| "Ao. don't believe i'll divided respous
bility. If an army officer is PLACED in charge o
an Agency he should report to his own depur,
1nent. iheu there is no room for discussion a
to who is responsible for any trouble that ma
occHr.''
"wHAr WAS YOUR DUTY IN THE INDIAN BIZ
~ had to select locations for the Red Clou,
and Spotted Tait divisions of the Dakota In
dians, commonly called Sioux Indians, who, b,
an act OF the preceding Congress, were com
year at point on the Missouri River; also, tt
inspect and report on the condition Of the dit
lsrent Agencies IN the Territory OF Dakota auG
State Of Nebraska
cries ut Grow Greek, Lower BruIc, Cheyenne
cics!"
"The investigation by the Commission in
WASHINGTON, supplemented by my cxamina-
tion, It. under nd instructions from the Department
OF the Interior, brought those frauds to light.'
Have they been extensive us the public
has been led to bceve:"
If you mean as published ny the metropoli-
tan press OF This and other cities, would say
s""eA1 a. I'LL Hs EUcS. Il HIS
not hecn told. In fact, these statements by the
prcss have been fully yndcated by0 thu
action of the Grund Juries at Yankton
and Rapid City in the Black Hills. AT
those two points, large number Of indictments
! have been found, each indictment covering IN
Immense number of counts and embracing all
that was published in TIE TRIBUNE aud other
| papers Of this and other citics.''
! - Lave you found any disposition on the part
OF the press to sustain the ring mcu?"
-" No. most decidedly not: ! have found, on
the contrary, that the effort to reform the
abuses SO long complained Of has been thorough
" sustained aud backed-up by the press Of the
country. The exceptions are hardly worth
mentioning, and are confined to local subs-
died papers, without circulation or INFLUENCE ~
-" Lave the people Of the Territory shown
disposition to stand by those detected in fraud
ut the different Agencies ~
No, they have not These men hare been
I sust tanned only BY their immediate friends, and
by those interested with thcln."
" las not an attempt been made to show
that tue efforts to punish the offending Agents
| is an attack Oh the Church, and on the system
Of appointment Of Agents by religious bodies o.
Yes: strong efforts hayesbccn made In all
| parts Of the Unitfd States to create a belief
that the attempt to punish the Indian Agents
who had been recommended by religious bodies
AN ATTACK ON THE CHURCH ITSELF.
q Is there any foundation for such bcief?':
"Most assuredlv not. 1t is simply the raisiny
of side issue-I might say sltlc-show-ili
order to distract attention, and prevent a trial
ol the real questions involved. It is tho e.l-
ployes who have conlu,itted the crimes and not
the Church.-not the religious bodies. These
men understand well that il they can drag The
members OF the respective churches into the
controversy, in the excitement Of the moment
they will commit many good mcn to their siuc
Of the question:
"Do you think any success has attended their
cfforts!''
&AT 1n1fo 1,,% 12+&1
ed Tor the moment, and hare lent their inau-
cncc to the support Of the ACCUSED under the
plea that they were injured men. But an1
satisfied that, when the case Is understood and
the men fairly tried by jury OF their country
men, the religious bodies Of the country will
hasten to purge themselves not only OF the men
who have brought disgrace on their official p0-
sition, but who are themselves reproach to tic
religious bodies wiu arc SO unfortunate US to
have been iucumbcred bv them.'
''Do understand you, then, to say that you
believe the church people have been entirely
honest in their recommendations"
"Certanlr do. | believe that bad men
would justas soon undertake to put uD q job ,
ical association, and do not blnmc the Church
any mort than any other society for being I'm
posed on.''
''Do rou believe that the management hy the
religious societies OF the country and the Bonrd
Of Indian Commissioners is an Improvement on
the old plan OF appointment"
Yes, eo-a very eatimproycmcnt."
"l1ow is it donc?'
Each religious society has certain number
Of Agencies in charge TO which they nominate
Agents through the Commission, whose Office is
in the City of New York. These nominations
Arc made on the recommendations of leading
and active members Of the respective churches,
and are acted upon first by tne Commission in
New York, and then by the Commissioner of
Jndi2n Affairs under the approval and direction
of the Secretary OF the Interior"
''Does the nomination BY the churches bind
the Commissioner and Sccrctary2''
'No. They are not bonnd by it, but, unless
some very excellent reason exists to the con-
trary, the Church nomination is respected aud
made final. II accented, the name is sent to
the Senate in the usual manner. Tic appoint |
Hcnt OF an Agent IS Tor rfour years, unless sooner
removed, aud tue employees at an Agency are !
usually, though not always, appointed on the |
recommendation of the Agent, who appoints |
and rejects them on his monthly roll OF cm
ployes."
''Has there been any change in the powers of |
otficc!n
t'No change in the powers, but
THEIR ACCOUNTABILITY
is very much more strictly enforced, and Mr..
Schurz and the Indian Commissioner reserve to
tho right, which has been dormant,
Of removing obnoxious or criminal employees OH
Agencies, ana OF replacing thcm by men Of
their own selcction.n
" Does Mr.: Schurz act on the nominations OF
the churchcsl'
He does, aud, as have already said, unless
some very excellent reason exists to the con- |
trary, he respects thctn.''
"Do understand yo,l, then, that he approves
of the management by the Board Of Indian Coln- |
nssoners and the Church socicticsa'
lie uOes, and sustains them.n
"When will the persons Indicted for these
Crow Ciecz Agency frauds he brought to
:ria!!"
''They arc all bound oyer to appcor at the
lcxt term OF court in their respective districts,
rhat at Yanston, am Informed, will be held !
IL March. The term Of court in tic Black Hills !
depends on the action Of the Legislature, which,
1t the present session, is expected to change
he place OF holding court, Which will OF course
determine the time when the Court sits mud the |
ria1s wifi take placer
80 Will these trials be before the Territorial OF
United States Courts!n
Before tue United States Court District |
uuges.a
t'Who are the District Attorncvs?n
There is but one for the three DISTRICTS
be Hon. Hugh Campbell, formerly Of Iowa,
ut since the War, and prior to his appointment,
# Louisiana"
Il Is he q man Of ability and one who can be |
expended upon to push these cascs?"
81 Tie is 4 man OF very decided ability aud firm- |
ess Of character, and have no doubt he will
ush the cases to the full extent Of his power.''
g Have there not been some cases which are |
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