The New York herald., 1879-02-09

aid YOU have an interview with him A. l suppose
did.
view was A. cannot recollect it in detail have
doubt expressed impatience to him.
Q. Give the best recollection or the substance or
that interview? A. don't know that he said any.
thing to me; anything that said was mere out
burst of impatience and dspleasure think he made
Q. You know the position which Colonel Pelton
occupied. Do you know that he was Acting secre-
tary of the National Committee and that these tele
grams coming to him? A. did not know that;
WHY PUNISH PELToS?
Q. Did you, after this Baltimore transaction came
that he should be removed from the position in
which you knew he was? A. lstill continuing III the
same low tone). do not think did
q. Why not? A. In the first place did not know
Of the Baltimore transaction except to this extent
that he had been receiving offer there did not
know that he had given it any encouragement: and
did not acquire any such knowledge until these
dispatches had been published; did not acquire
any Information that subject in conversation
with Mr.. Cooper except in a general way; Thought
the best way deal with the thing to stop it.
and stopped it enectually; did not imagine 1T
possible that any such transaction conld be after
ward renewed; besides, Colonel Peton had
power he was sometimes called acting secretary,
but he had command Of no money and WAS not able
to do anything without the concurrence of other
men; ! did not imagine he was tempted to do any
thing.
q. Didn't the fact that he had attempted to
do it give you any idea that he would be likely to try
it again? A. did not suppose that he had any
temptation; simply supposed that he had received
an Ofer
THE CONVERSATION MIR. COOPER.
Q. Will you be kind enough to give us the con-
versation you had with MIR. Edward Cooper as near
you can recoect it? A. The conversation with
Mr. Cooper did not occupy more than Ave or ten
minutes he began the conversation; he communi-
Gated to me the fact that Colonel Pelton Balt
more-the fact that Colonel Peton was receiving al
offer of this nature.
Q. Did he tell You the amount Of the proposition?
A. That he probably did.
O. Did he tell you he had received a telegram from
Colonel Peton asking for the money! A. / do not
of the conversation was that Peton was down there
in Baltimore the certificates OF the of the
State of South Carolina offered tor sale, and he
was down there to look into it.
O. Did he tell you anything about Colonel Pelton's
having cautioned him not to tell you? A. No.
O. Anything of that sort mentioned? A. He did not
mention that he and Colonel Peton had met at all.
G. Where you the night before? A. do not
remember; did not know Colonel Pelton was going
away.
TO SELL OR TO BUY?
O. When did you next hear of corrupt attempts
after this in any OF the States? A. with faint
smile. What do you mean by corrupt attempts?
DO you mean attempts to sell or attempts to buy?
O. drily). Both. Governor either? A. (humor-
ously never heard of the attempt of these people
to buy at all. QIaughter)
O. ipressing hardj Do you mean to say that you
never heard of any attempt to buy? Do you mean
to say that? A. tvery quietly mean to say that I
heard it at that time mean up to the time
of the publication OF these dispatches regard those
attempts attempts to sell rather than attempts to
buy. Uaughter)
e. When did you first hear of the corrupt attempts
to sell subsequent to this Baltimore transaction? A.
cannot say; the atmosphere was full of rumors
Q. (sarcastically When did you become conscious
of the state of the atmospheric? A. There were ru-
mors met. last summer, gentlem in the cars
q. Well don't mean that. When did you first
hear of these criminal attempts, either to buy to
sell. after the Baltimore experience? A. Do you
mean in Florida or South Carolina?
q. First tell OF the Florida performance"
jocosely); will a neutral term A. cannot
renember wnen first heard of it after the gentle
men who had gone to Florida had returned; Mr.
Marble told ME at some time; think it was later.
Q. (Triunphantly). Are You aware that Mr.. Marble
has testified that he never told you of 1t !?
at this query Mr.. Tilden paused and looked
Mr. stenger-He can't be aware of that. Mr. Reed,
because he did not testify. el.
MERELY MEsrIoNKD THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
Q. Did Mr.. Marble tell you of the transmission of
these dispatches? A. He did not.
@. Did he make any allusion to their being mere
+, "danger signals which he transmitted? A. He did
past he said that the Florida certificates
for sale in the first place 1t was thing past,
the same as any other fact in history.
q. Why did he not give the details as to the par
ticulars Of this South Carolina master? A. made
no inquiry.
Q. Did you not feel any interest in its A. The
only interest felt In it-sss in stopping it,. .,.-
signal transmission or propositions? A. You
are speaking of South Carolina?
sOME TELLING ANSWERS.
@. Yes. sir; it would not occur to you that the
transmission of propositions for sale would be dan
u
sell.
This answer rather took Mr.. Reed back, but he
rallied to another of his sarcastic saes.
Q. And that the man who transmitted these propo-
sitions to sell would be likely to buy? A. tafter
pause of renection). That would depend on the mo-
tives of the man who transmitted it,
O. When did Colonel Pelton begin to reside at
your house? A. About nine years ago. l think.
O. When did lie cease residence there! A. About
the LIST of July.
O. He had been your military secretary while you
Governory A. He was.
O. And with your knowledge and consent was act
ting secretary of the Democratic National Commit
teet a; = It va vas not not with my consent; know he
Albany the latter part OF the third or fourth week in
sepember; the canvass was gong on and two-thirds
three-fourths concluded while was in Albany; I
down here and found him acting secretary.
O. Did you make any objection to his acting as
o. To whom? A. Several gentlemen of the COM
mittee.
O. Can you name them? A. tAfter reAection). No.
O. Any one of themy A. I'm the same way). No.
O. Did you request him to resign? A. No; did
not request him to resign but Twas not pleased with
it: manifested my regret at it.
O. What did he say? A. cannot tell you.
o. You did not to any extent insist upon his ceas-
ing to act? A. did not.
MIR. AND WEED
O. Do you know Mr. Smith Wecdr A. do
o. How long have you known him A. some years.
a. Has he been in confidential relations with you?
A. No moro than prominent democrats.
o. But as much AS some prominent democrats? A.
As much less than Others
o. When did you first know that he was in South
Carolina? A. Not until after he came back.
q. Was II concealed from you /? A. guess not.
q. How did it happen that you did not know? A.
Because did not undertake to keep of the gem
temen who were down there, not very close rum
I know the whereabouts OF the visiting statesmen
only Ms learned from the public journals.
q. And you say that you knew nothing of
Mr. Smith Weeds presence in south Gsrotins until
after his return A. with emphasis.) say So posi-
lively.
q. Was that conversation with him about the
transmission of this propositionY A. had very
brief conversation with him. in which took HIM to
task for mixing up in such transactions; I do not
feel personally responsible for Mr.. Weed.
y. At what time was the Oregon affair published?
A. IL the result of the investigation OF the
ject by % committee of the senate; cannot tell
about the time think IL was the winter of 1877.
q. Mr., Pelton remained in your house then from
that time until July afts r the publication OF the
Oregon dcspatchesy A. Yes.
q. Mr. Manton Marble occupied confidential rca-
tions with you did he? A. He occupied relations
which to certain OK cnt were confidential.
q. He stopped to bid You goodby before he started
for Florida: do you recollcct that interview? A.
recollect seeing him before he went TO Florida