The New York herald., 1879-07-09

Stucke says that it not fired by him. He also
heard shots fired later in the evening from the direc-
tion OF twenty first street There was no rubber In
the cartridges used by Sucke aud the manufacturers
state that no cartridges made nowadays with rub
Der about them. The bullet which was found IN Mr..
Seymours body had near it small piece OF rubber.
which gave rise at first to the opinion that the ball
had been fired from a muzzle-loading pistol. This
theory. taken in conjunction with the testimony of
several persons who saw two strange men IN the
grounds after ten O'Clock the night of the killing
may develop into something yet.
An OBSTACLE IN THE WAY OF DETECTION.
Detective Nevn said to reporter last evening"
Under the administration of the law with reference
police justices. it is almost impossible to
get non-interested witnesses of a crime to
search r ths TSsrs ays m scores nss
OF people whose houses overlook the seminary
grounds The night of Mr.. seymour's death was
warm. and the of q holiday if there had been no
fireworks or noise in the neighborhood. would have
caused many people to sit in their doorways or At
their windows until late hour. The reason why
these people do not come forward to testify
as to every explosion-whether Of gun.
thsy sss afraid Of fasS being locked
in the House Of Detention. Why. know of num-
bers of incidents where individuals have been locked
up in the House of Detention for months their situ
atoms forfeited and their families solely dependant
upon them. brought to want simply because they
were the innocent witnesses of SOME crime"
well. how about the killing Of Mr.. Seymour
does the fear of the House of Detention materially
interfere with the investigation Of the detecves?"
Eyes, in the most positive manner For instance.
two days spent in hunting up the woman in
white spoken Of in the papers having been in the
grounds OF the seminary with man the night OF
the Sd OF July. Under promise that this lady would
not be sent to the House of Detention she came
voluntarily forward said that she had only been
deferred from doing previously from fear of
arrest She is lady residing in the and
in stratforward manner told of herself and son
having walked in the grounds Of the seminary that
evening as they had done on many previous even
ing. She did not see Mr.. Seymour she
the ground when any shot was fired. Thus two days
work were lost by the detectives because inno-
cent person feared being detained asa Witness"
THE STRANGER IN THE GROUNDS.
what ia your idea. Mr.. Nevin. of Mr.. Seymour's
deaths"
II think that there certainly must be an error as
to time. We have certain information that Mr. Sey-
mour was alive at twelve O'Clock on the night of
the Sd of July. At that time he was seen in the
grounds the north front of the building talking
to who wore a long dark sack coat.
and who seemingly about five feet
nine inches in height Mr.. Seymour suddenly turned
away from him aud walked briskly toward the NORTH
west. The man with the sack coat seemed to haA
tate moment and then started in diagonal drec. :.
ton IL to head or Mr.. Seymour. AS he neared
him q flash of q pistol was seen and report
of pistol heard coming from the grounds. In
ports heard coming from various directions in
the Immediate vicinity This is the last that is posi-
'Well, cannot this man with the sack coat be
traced?"
.'Ah there's the rub Here comes the House of
Detention again. Perhaps this man is innocent.
He may be residing in the neighborhood. He is the
last man known to have seen Mr.. Seymour alive and
his testimony would be important Perhaps he may
be poor man. and if So the fear Of being locked up
as witness and kept from his work will keep his
mouth closed"
''who the man with Mr.. Seymour at twelve
O'Clock that nightY'
.'That must tell you. OF the fact that he was
seen that night alive at twelve O'Clock in company
with man such as have described you may rest
assured. Whether find the man not ques-
ton that could be answered ut once it not for
the Interpretation Of the law regarding the detention
of witnesses by the coroners and police Justices
In reference to the matter Of the statement made
by Bishop Seymour as to the unnecessary and rude
actions of the police officers on the night Of the kill
ing toward his sister Mrs. Seymour and himself. Dr.
Cush nan, Of Ninth avenue and Twenty-frst street,
says that he early on the grounds and heard the
officer tell the Bishop and Mrs. Seymour that they
would have to 60 with him to the station house.
He. the Doctor. that Mrs. Seymour
in state to be taken to the station
house and he necessity for it. She tainted
the way there and q carriage had to be sent for.
When in the station house the sergeant had been
rather brusque in his treatment of Mrs. Seymour in
ordering her into the private room The Bishop
was dignifed and temperate throughout the scene.
and did everything possible to relieve his sister
from the intense excitement produced by the death
Of her husband and her after treatment by the po-
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