The Anderson intelligencer. [volume] (Anderson Court House, S.C.) 1860-1914, 1879-05-08
BUTLER ANSWERS BLAINE.
The Judge Higger-Muggcr' Under Discus
sion.-one Instance when tile Senator
from Maine met his Match.
Thursdays DeJate from "the Reeo,d.r

| Thursdays Dejac from "the Rcco,d."
Mr.. Butler: Mr.. President, will make
but one single remark in reply to the
senator from Maine. South Carolina is
| quite able to take care of herself without
any suggestions or reflections Of that sem
| ator; and fortunately for us there s
nothing to sustain the charge which he
makes, except his own statements, and if
they are not more correct than great
many others that lie has made in this
Chamber they will not go for very much.
Now, Sir, said that so far rs Smalls and
CardoZO were concerned, his friends, il
was determined weeks ago, think, that
they should be pardoncd
Mr.. Blaine: Did the public know any
thing about it?
Ar. Butler = | do not know that tho
public knew anything of it.
Mr.. Blaine: Does the senator state
that the public in any way knew any
thing about it?
Mr.. Butler: do not know whether tho
public knew anything about it, and do
not care
Mr.. Blaine: That is the very point of
the whole thing.
Mr.. Butler: And l undertake to say
that the cases against Mr.. Chamberlain
and against the others have not been dis
continued. Therefore the statement
made by the senator is not true.
Mr.. P:aine: only stated what was in
the public prints. That was all.
Mr.. Butler: Precisely ; but the senator
gets up and makes these statements with
out regard to whether they are true or
not, but go far rs he is CONCERNED ho
stands sponsor for them As | said
fortunately for South Carolina, there is
nothing to sustain the charge which he
makes against her except his own un-
supported statement. There has been
no discont.nuance of the prosecutions
against those persons. .cpe the time
will come when they will ali be iiscon-
tinued, in the interest of peace | have
advised it for the last twelve months, and
shall continue to advise it; and if the
senator denounces it rs a bargain. let
linn denounce it, | think, Mr.. Presi-
dent, the people Of South Carolina can
take care of her interests and her honor
just as we'll without the dictation of the
honorable senator rs with it and yet he
has been hurling again and again his
anathemas against her, which, l submit,
if he will pardon me for saying go, is not
becoming an American Senator. l un-
derstand that Cnrdozo and Smalls have
heen rardcned, aiia am gind ihcy have
been pardoned, but the cases against the
others have not been discontinued. l
think they all ought to be, and, if am
not very much misinformed, the honor
able senator had the same opinion twelve
months ago.
Mr.. Blaine: They never ought to have
been commenced. That is the opinion of
"the honorable senator, if you want 10
hear it,
Mr.. Butler: All, Mr.. President, they
ought never to have been commenced,
nor ought many of tho prosecutions in
the United States Courts ever to have
been commenced. When the senator
talks about bargain having been made
in regard to the Ellenton prisoners, and
some dispatches sent from Washington
by the Executive, does the honorable
senator know that the Chief Justice of
the United States WIS presiding at those
trials? Would he make bargain? Does
the honorable senator charge that upon
| him?
Mr.. Blaine: Does the honorable sena-
tor from South Carolina know that the
Chief Justice said it was impossible to
procure conviction?
Mr.. Butler: No, sir.
Mr.. Blaine: lie did say SO, sir.
Mr.. Butler: l know nothing Of the
kind, Mr. President, but do know this
that there were trials of thirteen of those
prisoners and mistrial and if any bar
| gain wins made, upon the head of the
/ Chief Justice must the charge Of the SEN
ator fall, because he was there presiding
in that court, and l know that twelve
men tried and mistrial was the result
oft. What may have been the opinion
OF the Chief Justice upon that subject
do not know, but perhaps the senator
does. -
Mr.. Blaine: This is question of fact:
1t is question of debate upon evidence
gathered before committee of the SEN
ate; and | am not to be deferred from
discussing that by the gentleman trying
to arraign me for abusing South CARROLL
ma. l have said not one word about
South Carolina nor about any officer of
South Carolina other than that which is
contained in the report of n special com
mittec of the Senate, and do not propose
to be dragged unnecessarily into any per
sonui iusues outside of that. | hold the
senator TO the record, hold him to the
testimony of man for whose vcrac;ty Iia
stands sponsor and voucher, and | ask
him not TO answer Ine by stating any
thing in the shape of menace ask him
to answer reputable citizen Of his own
State at the bar of the Senate.
Mr.. Butler: Mr.. President, il certain
y is net my habit, ]. nc-cr has been my
habit to utter menace against anybody
much less against senator on this floor.
| have uttered no menace against the
honorable senator from Maine. If there
has been any menacing in this debate, it
has come from him. l understand the
honorable senator to refer to certain dis
graceful transactions by the authorities
of South Carolina, and now he rises and
says that lie has never arraigncd that
State. If that is not an arrangement,
submit 10 tito honorable senator ne him.
self does not understand the English mn-
guage.
Mr.. Blaine: IF the senator will permit
me at that point, stated to the honora-
bic senator from Indiana that if the ar.
l.