Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1879-02-07

read all the kilograms received. He did in
quire as to whether or not there was anv news
from Marble, but he never read a single tele-
gram IN relation to negotiations for the pur-
chase OF the returning board
Q. Now tell us the exact words Of vopr
uncle. A. cannot say. All know is that
ne strongly disapproved of what 1 had been
doing.
Q. Then your uncle and Mr. Cooper disap-
proved OF your plans from moral point Of
view. NJ. Cooper was treasurer of the Ma
tional Democratic committee, was he not? A.
DC was but as to his morality cannot say.
T.. Did the word Russia mean Mr.. Tilden2
A. Iguess 80.
Q. Did you present the telegram reading,
'"Teil Russia to saddle Blackstone to YOUR
uncle? A. / never did,
.. Did he understand what Bolivia Laura
meant. A. He did not. In fact he never saw
aay of these kilograms Blackstone was the
name of horse owned by Mr.. Tilden. That's
all know about it.
y. This was suggestion that Mr.. Tilden
should take some gentle exercise? A. I sup
pose SO.
q. These people in Louisiana, Florida and
South Carolina depended upon your doing
what you have shown you could not do. In
other words, you led them to believe you had
somebody behind you and whatever YOU did
would be sanctioned, and any contracts made
would be faithfully carried out3 A. That is
@. Did you intend, if Cooper favored your
plans. to obtain sixty or eighty thousand dol
lara from the Democratic committee? A. I
did.
G. Do you make any difference between
Duying an e!ector and buying returning
boards? A. l do. There is great differ.
ence.
Witness said he had not seen Marble since
last August.
70 tiiscock-I do not now res de with Gov.
Illden. Have not lived in Grammarcy park
since last August. When secretary to Gov.
tied agent.
g. Look at the cipher. Does it not contain
arbitrary words, some meaning thousands and
Others hundreds? A. 1t does
Q. Explain this. A. have no explanation
to give.
Q. Is it not fact that YOU BETRAYED vonr
confidential friend Weed when you said you
could raise 100000 or $4,000? A. don't
know that there was any betrayal
@. Why did you tell Cooper not to mention
the matter to your uncle? A. Because the
Governor had no knowledge of this transaction
whatever, and if he did he would have
stopped it.
QUESTIONABLE you not entirely dependent
upon your uncle?
Mr. Springer objected on the ground that
the question was offensive. Some argument
ensued in the course of which Reed suggested
that just as the committee were eliciting infor-
nation from witness the Democrats objected.
The chairman remarked-Let me be explicit
Democrats had nothing to do with this beyond
getting at the truth.
Mr.. Hiscock remarked he was not satisfied
with the answers Of witness and intended to
make him give proper ones.
Question by Hiscock-About this election?
A. Yes it was stolen and wrongfully disposed
of. Applause.
The chairman remarked II this applause was
repeated he should order the room to be
cleared.
Q. Did You consider the proposition to
purchase returning board honest? A. do
not think this fair question.
Q. Did you not understand money expended
IN elections were to carry elections? A. can't
remember. You have already insulted me by
yoar questions, and wish you would refrain
from it.
Hiscock-I have not insulted you either in
word or meaning; am seeking for the truth,
and mean to have it. Do you want the country
to believe that without consulting any leading
9eH scrat, or venr uncle you took upon your.
self 70 MACS those contracts involving a large
amount OF money, whereas you have not dol
lar? A. You are getting offensive again.
9. Well. we will see. Don't be particular to
shade. You got So 600 from Mr.. Jordan who
has already testified before the Senate commit
tee. Did you expect to get this money from
your uncle? A. did not.
Q. Then from whom did you expect to get
it? A. From MIR. Scott.
@. Seeing that Gov. 1ilden was not to give
you the money, did you not know you were
guilty of unjust act, or to say the least, dis
honestly a. think nothing Of the kind.
MIR. Hiscock said he intended to examine the
witness more fully, and would insist on every
question coming under the rule being an
swered.
Mr.. Stenger-I have been passive SO far. Now
let me say you shall get all the answers you
want.
MIR. Reed-That is exactly the object of the
committee, the truth and nothing but the
truth. Recess