The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-10-26

fight after the surrender of the captives.
The Indians say that they will not permit
the troops to move without contesuhg
the last inch of their territory. Ouray cannot
control the Indians il the troops advance Anew
families have fed from Ouray City. which has Soo
population. to Lake City. thirty miles east. over
the snowy range. So long as the troops keep quies
there can be no danger The sensational reports
from Southern Colorado regarding uprising are
unrounded.
The correspondent of the HERALD interviewed
ing and had driven to the agency nine miles from
his splendid farm in two-seated carriage. He con-
versed in the Spanish, English and Ute tongues He
said that his wife. Chipita. had visited Agent Meeker
when she heard Of the massacre. She was surprised
and grieved that foolish Indians should attack an
aged and harmless man. Ouray was hunting. nifty
miles distant, when the news OF the massacre came
He returned at once and despatched feet runners
with letter ordering the hostiltics to cease. Tho
runners reached White River just the white rein
forcements arrived. but the Indians fully pre-
pared and declared that they would have massacred
the command had they not been behind breastworks
when the despatch arrived. The Indians said that
the white troops fought like devils.
PET INDIANS.
Ouray said that before the outbreak some head
Indians visited his camp and planned that Meeker
withheld supplies from them. but gave supplies to
the other friendly Indians. These complaining
Indians supposed to be remnant of the
old Denver band who have led pic
nicking life and caused much trouble. They
petted by white visitors at Denver and
they horses and fancy clothes. They after
ward appeared at the agencies and assumed lofty
manners. Mr.. Meeker said that they did not belong
to his agency, and they did not conform to the
aud
work he declined to feed them. Ouray added that
troops. and that they charged tho agent with sum-
moning them.
INDIAN CASUALTIES.
Henry Jim was at the Thornburgh massacre. He
testified to-day that the firing begun simultane-
ously by the Indians and soldiers After the Thorn
burgh fight and before Merritts arrival the Indians
concentrated and prepared for great battle. which
was stopped by the command Of Ouray. In Thorn
burgh's fight Jim says that twenty-t three Indians
were killed and two severely wounded.
Among the Indians killed were Ouray's nephew.
wattsconavot uneaning "Doctor''). and Catolowop
tneaning "Fat Man,.
NOT ALL REBELLIoUs.
Jim says that not all the Indians in the fight
armed and that all the Southern Indians and part
of the Northern Indians did not sanction the mas
sacre.
Most OF the people in the West would like the Utes
to be exterminated or driven away. stage driver
says that the Indians not responsible for all the
forest fires. many freghers carelessly leave fires
which the winds cause to spread The country south
of Los Pinos ravaged by Are. The nearest tele-
graph station to Los Pinos is Del Norte 1856 miles
from Los Pinos. grand Indian council is to be
held soon and important results are expected.
BROKEN PROMISES.
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Utes since 1878 is that the promise Of $4,000
made to them by the United States Com
mission in 1873 for Uncompaghre Park
has been ignored by Congress. although it
has held two sessions since then. Either Congress
must support its commissions or pay the expenses
of an Indian war. Ouray has stood between mis-
indignant people and an Indifferent Congress. The
Los Pinos Indians will not submit much longer to
be robbed of theraands to please Congress.
THE TOTAL SUBMISSION OF THE sAvAGEs LOOKED
FOR OFFICIAL REPORT or THE RELEASE OF
THE cApTIvEs PART OF ADAMS DESPATCH
SUPPRESSED.
Icy TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD
WASHINGTON. Oct. %, 1879.
Secretary Schurz received q telegram tonight
from Special Agent Adams. which was brought from
White River Agency to Rawlins by relay Of
couriers. and is dated White River Agency,
October "a. He Announces that Mrs.
Meeker and Miss Josephine Meeker. Mrs. Price
and the two children have been surrendered and
now in General Merritt's camp. They say that they
were well treated by the Indians and the impression
is that had it not been for Ourays orders they would
all have been massacred.
THE TROOPS TO BE RESTRAINED.
Upon receiving the telegram. Secretary Schurz at
gratifying intelligence of of the captives
He then visited General Sherman and had long con-
ference with him to the importance of preventing
any hasty action the part of troops. the
of Agent Adams telegram being that he was hopeful
of speedily terminating the hostile attitude of the
Utes and carrying out in detail the instructions of
the Interior Department
Explanation is given Of the killing Of Lieutenant
Weir. who was out with q scouting party and fired
first on the pickets of the Ute camp. the Indians
claiming that they acted in this merely in
self-defence They lost two Indians in this engage
ment aud admit the loss OF thirty seven In the fight
with Thornburgh.
MOTIVES HOSTILITY.
They gave to Agent Adams q detailed account Of
what they regarded ther grievances and the rea-
sons which influenced them in taking the war path
From their statement the exact details Of which are
withheld for prudential reasons for the present. it
is evident that il our troops had pursued the Ues
they would have massacred the women and children
not being able in that mountainous country to pro-
vide them with ordinary comforts.
The understanding still continues that the troops
shall not move from tho White River Agency until
further orders. Secretary Schurz General sher-
man both agree that the information at
hand indicates speedy termination of the cam
paign
From White River Agency Agent Adams returns to
the hostile camp where he expects to be present
their council aud will then proceed to Los Pinos
Agency to again confer with Chief ouray. lie does
not expect arrive there before the 2sth and by the
30th his telegram will DO III Washington giving tho
result of his talk with the White River Utes. The
captives were surrendered Internationally.
HOPES SPEEDY PEACE.
Meanwhile the forces of Colonel Merritt Colonel