Daily globe., 1879-06-07
PUNCTURING PITT.
IMPORTANT TESTIMONY IN THE
lsP0FF0R1-KELLOGG CONTEST

The Sergeant at farms of the Packard Leg |
islature ON tho Etand-The True Inward
ness Of Kellogg's Pretended Election
The Prevailing Price for Votes 5000
members Absent Personated by Other
Members to Make up Quorum.
WASHINGTON, June 6-The Senate commit
tee on privileges and elections to-day resumed
the Spoford- Kellogg investigation.
Mr.. Merrick counsel for Spofford, offered in
evidence the affidavit of Joseph J. johnson, to
impeaoh the oreditability Of Johnsons oral de-
mails of the truth ct it's contents and to lay the
| foundation for proof that the witness, since
making the affidavit, has been subjected to in
fuences of seductive benefits and intimations.
MIR. Shellabarger, of counsel for Kellogg, OBJ
iected and the committee requested the coun-
| sol to submit legal authorities upon which they
relied.
| Thomas Murray, colored. the sergeant-at-
arms of the House of Representatives of the
Packard legislature, testified: Sauer occupied
the room next to his and Gov. Kellogg's. On
I q number of occasions he directed witness to
| conduct members of the legislature to Sauers
Office which witness did. t
>Question-Did they ever tell you Whit they
went for2 A.-Some Of them have.
Kellogg's question: What did they tell vow ?
Mr.. Sielabarger objected On the ground that
the question proposed to elicit merely hearsay
evidence.
Mr. Hill moved the question be admitted
Carried, Hill, Vance, Houston and Bailey
voting in the Affirmative. and Ingalls, and
Cameron in the negative. The witness said the
men who came before the election Of the Sena-
1 tor were hard up, and when they came. they
generally went to the Governor for little
money. Some of the men he took up to
Saucrs Office told him they went to see when
their warrants would be ready others to get
money.
Question Money for what ~ Ans
voting for Gov. Kellogg. saw some men
have as high as 5000 which they said they got
for voting for Kellogg, but they colored
and do not rely on what they say" The
committee here had q private consultation.
After reopening the doors the cross-examina-
tion of Thomas Murray was resumed by Mer-
rick. He had heard generally around the
Office that members of the legislature had got
money. Four or five had told him of it and
shown him the money. He could not tell how
many had told him of having received money
without showing it to him. His Office was
headquarters where they all came and some of
| them slept there. The men who showed him
The money were Souny Simms, of St. James;
McGlaire, of Buoyelles parish; Joseph J. John
son, of De Soto parish, who was examined yes
terday. Did not tell him, but Robert E. John
son, of Terre Bonne, did. These were all that
he recollected. The talk among them was that
the price was 5000.
Merrick-How many members of the legis-
now employed in the New Orleans custom
house Ans.-About twenty. I suppose I
would like to be there myself.
Merrick-How many of them were in the
custom house on the 4th of March last. Ans
Three or four ; the rest have been put in re-
nonf1v Rad mao orJ1
\ Cannot tell how many of t1em were put in
within the last month"; The Senator was
elected on the second Tueeday in Jan uary.
There was q joint session of the legislature on
that day. Witness was instructed that day to
bring IN ten members to make up the quorum.
he went out and brought in five members and
then went out to get the other five, but did not
get them. When he came back Clerk Badger
told him there was quorum. Yon, Kellogg,
was the only man voted for as United States
Senator, and received the unanimous vote.
Kellogg-When was it that you saw these
members who told you that they had got
: money?
i Ans.-I cannot tell you that.
Kellogg-Was it before or after the election
Ans.-lt was before the election of Senator
that these men went to Sauer. I stated to the
: other side that members had 5000 after Kellogg
was elected, and they told me they had got it
for voting for Kellogg.
| 10 A0llOSST1 Ulu uOG UIl0S you luGO luHU,
, but you bring me into it. Qaughter)
Kellogg do not want to draw myself in
Witness-Keep on as you are going and you
have not far to go nov.
Kellogg-When was it that you had this con-
versation with these men?
Ans.-I do not know. It was some time dur
ing the four months after your election.
Kellogg-Do you know what Sauer paid these
men money for? Answer-There you are at it
. again. (Laughter.9 They said that he paid
+ them for voting for Kellogg. Haughter.)
ness interrupting-You get at TOO much.
l (Laughter.) Isaw two other members who
received $l50. That was. after the warrants
4 had been issued. Iheard all of them say that
they got money.
you. It was the common talk around there.
cannot name any who showed money except
the three have named.
Witness was further examined by Kellogg
!. for the purpose of getting from him the fact
' that the money he had seen with members was
!, issued, but the per diem of the
= sixty days session was $480, independent OF
!. mileage, and that the custom was to give it tc
= them In two payments. In regard to the ap
l. pointment Of ex-members of the legislature t.
: positions in the custom house by Badger, tn,
. collector, he was then asked whether it was mo-
: the practice to appoint to Office men who hae
= = been connected with the Packard government
, He replied in the negative and said that h'
had seen some of them there very hungry. Will
2 others who had not been supporters Of th
!. Packard government were holding good posi-
= tions.
!. Merrick-You saw Sauer pay the money t
= two individuals? Ans.-Yes.
= Merrick-Did they tell you what that none
. was paid for? Ans.-No, these two never did
Merrick-Do you know what it was paid for
= Ans.-Only from my own suspicious, torme
- on rumOrs.
2 Merrick-What were the rumors? Ans.-Tha
they were given so much for voting for Kellogg
: This was a few days after the election of Ke
~ :. logg.
" Merrick-Was not sauer paying out a goo
deal of money few days after the election {
=. Senat0r? Ans.-That was what they sale
: There we're q good many running up thel
about that time, and before that, too.
in Merrick-How many members of the legi
9, lature were present in joint convention at Il
az time the ballot was taken for United Stat,
: Senator? Ans.-Eighty-thre votes were al
=, nounced. The journal will chow. cam,
y answer the question. According to my fgur
~ = there were five men short, but when the vo
~ ~ was taken there were eightythree votes n
81 nounced.
Z. n To Senator Hill-It would take the FIVE tn,
- was after to make the eighty-three, and
re my knowledge these five men were not ther
=; Merrick-Do you know Thomas of Bessie
iaa ha who was q member of that legislature! Ans.
ne Yes. aas. atss9
%, Merrick-Was he present at the Joint CO
~ aie vention? Ans.-The journal shows he was.
-, a. Merrick-What does your head and rec,
nd nd lection tell you on that point? Ans.--He "
,at u at home sick with small pox; went to 9
'ne ne am here to tell the truth, and am going
=, ~ tell it it am murdered as am leaving TOW
~ Shellabargar, counsel for Kellogg. crosse
- amined witness ~ to Thomas of Bossier /