New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-06-13


that he walked right away from him. Counsel
then began TO question him with. regard TO the
cause Of his indignation, and intimated that he
would not be mad if there was not table in the
way between HIM and Murray. johnson dared
You'd see weder I'd 90 for him or noto A great
burst of laughter greeted this demonstration,
at which johnson jumped up. turned his
back squarely upon counsel and committee
and sat himself down in utter disgust. An
intimation was made that the turning
chairman, whereupon johnson assured the COM
ttee in a nervous manner that he had the utmost
respect, and he wanted II understood that he didn't
intend to buldoze the committee. Senators and
auditors roared for about two minutes while the
scandalized chairman looked about for weapon
with which 70 make noise and finally contented
himself with pounding on the table with a lead
pencil and roaring order. order"
The last witness. Robert f. Guichard, was chief
clerk OF the Packard Legislature. To all appear
ance he is a white man: lie produced the official
journals of the Packard House and of the proceed
most familiarity with the entire proceed
lngs. He had called the roll of the House
himself before gong into JOINT convention,
that every man whose name appears on the record
was present and that there was quorum. He said
that he had also called the list of names when the
ballot for senator was taken, and standing up at
the desk had looked at every member as they voted
lie was questioned at some length by counsel and
testified 20 numerous coniirmatOTy circumstances.
The matter OF a quorum being present at the time
of KellOgg's election seems to be settled beyond "a
doubt and with IL tails the strongest of MIR. Spot
fords charges against Kellogg. The opinion here is
almost universal that so far as matters have pro-
ceeded the results arc Overwhelmingly favorable to
Senator Kellogg.
General Press dispatch gives the details of the
proceedings. The following lis an extract from the
testimony of Watson, the letter carrier:
| know Tom Murray, but never told him that occIl
pied Thomass seat IN the Legislature election day and
voted Kellogg dad not occupy the of Thomas
witness s'''' gave an account Of his arrange
ms9t with Murray anu Caysnac to swear to an
ture After making out ,he statement Murray said to
negotiating parties. was told to strike while the
iron hot" obtained s. from Flood on account
ana o21 Su'' glass Of Beer for him, Murray said
Murray said that the friends Of Nichols wanted
prove hriberydead men could tell no tales and If
would figure up $1,000. Murray told me mat II Spot
1 not eSs 5 they Soy would 90 back , on
aidavts do not intend to TO them until we
seDatorsnip only to crafty Bis ambition signed one
J or two statements ana TOOK quasl oath IL,
O. Who forced you to make the afidaviti was per-
suded to do IT, aud did not think the act involved le
| OF was moral turpltudei Al had right to so
act.
Q.-You swOre to a Lief Alt was truth judicously
Q.-There times then when can swear to liei
Is that the you understand conscientious scrIpes
| Al am minister. lLaughter]
| Q.-In Gods name, of what cnurchf A.-Of all the
cOoreG churches IN LILA
fed my sentiments far las that Is concerned: have
reserved rights II is scrpura to not let the left hand
Q-You formerly taught religious IDEAS but now
have gone into swearing3 A-Buldozers nave
chased all that away have certain reserved rights
| on general principles.
Q-Yeu reserve the right to lie and to suppress the
| truth. want TO know whether that Is sol A-NO.
| Q-What has BECOME OF your reserved rights A
The moral atmosphere OF Washington has purified my
Q.-Lke the chameleon, you change your hue IAN and
Yo yGGr o IL OF b e bny the
right do so in New-orIeansf Al think Will go
"a perfect reformation In moral atmosphere And
you WI swear 9%r to sn9her Ne TOOK r6Ums,
and east for Kellogg" Is that true You know
Q-And you swore to it as a Lief Al thought it
right thus to accomplish my object
| TO swear 10 lie for money the Democrats had TO
burn my house. can show by the laws Of Louisiana it
! IS not n penal offence TO swear 70 a lle
| Q.-You are also LAWYER well preacher. Do
think right TO do as did. nay as taught by LouIsi
| OSAnd as a politician you are q Republican Al
| have been studying Democratic jurisprudence.
In further response the witness said he was exer-
cisng the right of an American citizen TO lie as he
| pleased.
The next witness was Robert B. johnson, a col
ored man, who was a member of the Packard Leg
| islature. He testified as follows:
got no money fur EGps fur K9Gsg If cat
iteutiary Is de bes place fur him. neber showed no
money. neber toe no man got de money fur voting
| for Kellogg. Don't know OF nobody. don't want TO
treat dis committee with contempt, got family TO
| support. l make mo- money By work den does by
coming fore this committee doesn't loaf hike Muir
ray dat Niger should De sent TO the penitentarY.
What Tom Murray SAYS l. a point blank life l know
nothing about IT, DE scOundrel ought be strung up
by the neck. Use only slightly 'quuned with Murray.
Use better name and lives mo spectacle DE ldee Of
Murray SAYING DAT hen TePesn VERY much excitsd
! question Of counsel
The witness-I de committee wild all de respect
In de world, but when man ike Tom Murray testify
| sucn tiugs dat 'ts nut 10 make me mad.
| Q-Have you had conversation with Murray since
toward Tom Murray Yes; de low pup ak him what
he said bout receiving money TO vote for Kellogg.
BE said you boys is lean, aud If Kellogg don't attend
you drop him and III get You all the money you want
| O.-YOu have carried OH pretty high here. Do you
know OF more now d h@n {To &d InI qGy r you
said TIL rived here hadn't saw Murray for eighteen
| months. .,-.,
seemed anxious 70 Jump the table at Murray. A
You put Inn dc green aud I'll show HIM. (Ihe wit
moss looked gngrly Murray the other side of the
| Gls mead defiautYJ fGeneIal laughter.l
| O-Wcre You not the man to on the fight with
Tom Murrayi Any action is not TO DulldOze dc com
ITfe laughter at this point excessive counsel.
.d nee aud committee together joined In the merri-
Thc Cha!rman-we viii have to preserve order. II
not the eergeantat-arms VIII be called TO ceaT the
room I want 40 such demonstrations.
dir Merric.-D mt buldoze the comm tee. want
TO ask when you first met Tom MURRAY here were YOU
more pugnacious than now I Al don't propose 10
Q~i think have the ght to ask the question. bg,
n commit You kin do as you please, wont answer.
Mr.. Merrick at the suggestion of the chairman,
withdrew the question.
The witness, with much carnestlcSs said he
o,,,tor slowed Murray no MONEY!" and that lie