The New York herald., 1879-02-07


ing 70 control and purchase the Presidency in the
face Of what you knew Mr. Tilden would disapprovs
of A. Yes sir did not consider my Judgment 10
the matter superior TO that OF 'overnor iiucn. i
hut the other hand did not consult himi
did not consider my 1udsmeni superior
to that of Mr.. cooper or Mr.. Hewitt OF
acted III these without consulting any one
of them; expected the $500 advanced by Mr. Jordan
tor Oregon to be raised by the members OF tho com.
mitee; did not have the money myself to make 1t
good won't say that Mr.. Jordan advanced this money
simply because was Governor Tilden's nephew; do
not know that Mr.. Jordan swore before the Senate
Committee that he advanced th,s money to my
money from Mr. W. T.. Scott.
ROME
@. Will you that you willing to get this
money from Mr. Jordan without knowing of any
means whereby you could pay 1t back, and in that
way attempt 10 swindle him?
The word ''swinde' evidently nettled Colonel Pei
ton. who drew himself sttfiy MP in his chair and
looking hercey at Mr.. Hsceck. replied, You have
right say that" Mr.. Springer here GAME to the
assistance Of the witness by intimating that the ex-
preston harsh one
q. Didn't You expect to get that $1,000 from Your
Ieuncc? A. No, sir: expected to pay IT back through
the aid of Mr.. Scott considered it likely that Mr.
Scott would raise the money and pay it himself
Q. Doesn't it look to you that. having means of
paying this money back when you induced Jordan to
advance it, yon were acting in reprehensibie ana
|. unjust manner?
Mr.. Springer here again interposed, saying that
witness ought not to De asked to pass judgment
his own acts. This gave rise to tilt between men,
bers the committee. after which, the hour DO ng
now six oclock and the session having already lasted
over hours, adjournment was taken until
eight q clock.
THE EVENING SESSION.
The evening session attracted quito a crowded
house. and the doorkeeper finding the applicants for
admission for the capacity of the
room, had close the doors to all except the men,
bers of the press minutes before business
commenced. Fully one hundred aud nifty spectators
many active politicians At fifteen minutes after the
hour fixed eight oclockl tor the beginning of the
evening session. Mr.. Springer and Mr.. Stenger
both absent they entered together, and Mr.. Reed
resumed his cross-examination
You proposed to raise this through the aid OF
the Democratic Committee? A. Yes that is what
proposed
g. Then you intended to act in this matter en-
tirey independent Of Mr.. Tilden; in fact. you in
tended to make these purchases ON your own re-
sponsibty? A. Yes, so far as it lay in my power.
O. You did not intend to fool your friends in the
South? A. 1 intended to send the money if could
raise it.
o. You proposed to raise the money through
gentlemen wei known in the party! A. Yes, through
some gentlemen interested with the party.
a. Had you selected any particular gentlemen? A.
O. 10 whom would you have applied? A. Any one
! who happened to be there.
o. Name them? A. TO Mr. Cooper.
IN SPITE OF HIS scRUpIEs.
| O. What! after the South Carolina matter to which
Mr.. Cooper strongly objected? A. Yes; after
that
| O. How long do you expect it would have taken
| you to raise the money through the committee? A
O. How long? A. A day or two.
| q. How long would they take to raise the money!
@. Do You think it would take couple of daysi
| O. That would be day or two to get the commit
tee and then day or two to get the money? A.
| That is mere supposition your part.
| o. You were keeping close watch of affairs in the
South then? A. Yes. watched them.
Q. You arc modest, Colonel Did you not watch
| them closely? A. Probably did.
Q. Then Of course, you knew that the Board would
declare the result on the 9th OF December? A.
suppose l knew that fact.
q. You telegraphed acceptance to Marble on the
4th OF December? A. Yes, believe did.
| % hen.
such short time? A. had no reason to doubt my
| O. did you not know it would take two days to
raise it? A. No. that was your supposition.
@. You rccolect that you sent the acceptance to
Mr.. Marble on the morning OF the 4th of Decem berl
A. do not recolect that; only said that believe
Q. How is it you reckon it at two daysa A. Well.
| it would be the best part Of two days.
i Q. At what time in the day. having telegraphed in
the morning accepting the proposal, did you find
out that the whole thing had gone up? A. l can't
| say.
Q. Was it in the morning9 A. can't say.
| q. Was il in the afternoon? A. / can't say.
Q. Between sending your acceptance and your
| finding out the futility OF the arrangement. who9
did you invite the meeting at which you say you
| intended to arrange about the money? A. No
| NO EFFORT TO RAISE THE MONEY
@. Did ycu mako no effort. then, to raise the
money? A. None.
| o. DO you expect us to-(here Mr.. Reed paused as
if to select word-think that you going to get
this money for the committeeg A. That is for you
Q. DO you say SOP Notwithstanding the circum.
stances which show that you had no adequate time
that you had spoken to one about the matter-yet
you expected to raise this sum Of money in this
time? A. 1t might not have been necessary to have
| u meeting of the committee.
| "Thats what l thought" said Mr.. Reed, trium-
phanty. That's exactly what was trying to get at
well. thought" =" said the Witness THAT perhaps
|, the matter might be arranged by the members who
| o. Who were they? A. have named them.
| q. Name them again. A. There was Mr.. Cooper.
| q. Who else? A. Mr. Scott
| Q. What reason had you for supposing that Mr..
Scott would cooperate in u plot which your uncle
had repudated2 A. None.
q. You didn't know but that Mr.. Scott was as good
and pure man your uncle? A. don't want to
make any comparison. uaughter.).
.. don't want you to make any comparisons in
general way; but in regard to this particular thing
you had no reason to suppose that your uncle was
| better than he? A. No, sir.
@. What reason had you to suppose that Mr..
| Cooper would raise S50,O00 TO use in bribng a Re-
turning Board after he had virtuously reTeled the
idea OF doing it in another State? A. had good
| reason to think he would
q. What circumstance In his life led you to think
he would do such thing? A. None.
| ALL IN GOOD rAIrH-No wIxKs.
Q: Now l understand that the conversation you
had with Mr.. Cooper the subject of the proposed
action in South Carolina which he reprobated it.
was all in good faith There wink signih-
cant gesture passing between your A. 7 didn't
8. It was not understood that these words were to
be spoken while exactly the opposite was intendedl
| q. Yet you accepted Mr. Marbles proposition with
| the idea you say, that you were to apply to Mr..
Cooper to raise the money? A. was going to
lay the matter before him.
q. You had other grounds for supposing lie
would act the matter than those you have statedf
A. None.
| Q. Why did mt you go to Mr.. Cooper at once? A.
| was waiting for further Information.
.. What further information could you expectf
| You didn't telegraph for any. did you? A. did
| O. What did you telegraph? A. can't say now.
Mr.. stenger then resumed his examination. To
him the witness said that at the time he teegraphed
to Mr.. Marble he did not suppose Mr. Tilden would
fnrpi pialtf fnc IN
not; there circumstance in Mr.. Tiidens life
which would lead him to suppose that he would fur.
nish the money; there ewere rumors atoat, about the
time OF the examination before Mr.. Mortons
| mitee into the Oregon matter, that efforts were
being made In south Carolina to purchase an elcctor
| independently of the efforts TO purchase the