Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1879-01-29
THE CIPHER INTERROGATION.
MORE OF w. E. CHAMBERS TESTIMONY.

NUKE Of W. E. CHANDLER S TESTIMONY.
Mr.. w. E. Chandler testified yesterday, after
our report closed, that he was unable to say
from whom he got the permission to look
through the cipher dispatches while they were
in the room OF the Senate committee on privi-
leges and elections. 1t might have been Senator
Morton or Mitchell. He understood the investi-
cation OF the cipher teiegrams was about to
commence when 1t was stopped at the instance
OF Mr. Illdens agents. he thought senator
CARPENTER made the suggestion to Senator Nor
ton that the idea Of an investigation be dropped.
but was not sure he represented Mr.. Tilden; did
not know whether any dispatches were taken
out OF the bundle before they were returned to
the Western Union company; General Butler
had nothing whatever to do with furnishing
copies or originals to the Tribwne that he had
twelve or fifteen Florida cop1es,' he said,
(which they returned to me. l afterward for
waided to them all the remaining Florida
copies. subsequently they received, by way Of
Mr.. HiscOck, all the remaining copies Of teie-
grams. These did not include the second bundle
OF teegrams that were sent by Brady himself"
Witness gave the dispatches to General Butler
becaused he liked him better than any other
member OF the committee.
MIR. Mcmahon to witness.-Why did you turn
them over to General Butler without notifying
him?
Witness.-''He was not In his office at the
time. No, never told him afterward that
thought If laid them in the hands Off you
allow me to say 1.-THE most responsible men,
Der OF the committee, my duty was at an end"
When witness went TO Florida he received a
en- OK for S2,CC0 from L. Chandler. He paid that
10 Mr. Morgan, the chairman Of the Florida
ca npa1gn committee, and it was used by that
&c ltleman to secure evidence for the canvass
IN beard. W1tLesS also received $4,000 from
10 IN Brady, and few thousand dollars in some
OF Ter ways, about $4,000 in all. Seven thou
sa d dollars were paid by him to General Nor
70 and by the latter disbursed; the other s2,o9o
witness himself disbursed in counsel fees and
some minor bills and legitimate expenses Re-
lerrlng TO witness leaving a bundle of dis
patches on his table, General Butler said: Gas
you sald nothing about 1t. thought | had bet
Ter say Eothing aboutit, for if you had wished
meto know you would have told me-
MtDess,-Me perfectly understood each
other, General.
asked II he had found the original letter from
Mr. Bullock, a copy OF which was read before
the committee yesterday. He replied that he
COPY? PPyo ~, o,nn,o.
copy.
Mr. Evans don't want to know that; I
want to know who copied my letter.
The chairman explained how he came by it.
Some weeks ago man called upon him and
said he had seen letter which showed where
could procure copy OF it. The man left his
address and went away with request from
MI. Potter to secure such copy. Mr.. Potter lost
the address and the man did not come bach:
and asked for the letter, and the man handed
II TO him. Mr. Potter could not tell the mans
name.
Mr.. Chandler.-ls there not as much mystery
about that as about the dispatches being placed
on Gen. Buffers table?
Mr.. Eyans.-I want to know his name. That
letter, am confident, was copied at my desk. l
would give new suit Of clothes to anybody
who will give me his name. Laughter
y, 9qeston;aHave 951oao you any other letters from
Answer.-They are Of private nature alto
gether.
The Chairman.-That is perfectly satisfac-
tory.
The committee then adjourned.
To-day's Proceedings.
At the meeting Of the Potter committee this
morning, the chairman read a telegram from
Mr.. Tyler, to the effect that that gentleman
would not be able to be present until O'Clock,
THE OREGON DISPATCHES DECIPaERED
MI. W. 7. Mcclellan, assistant cnief OF til
warrant division of the Treasury department,
was then called, and stated that lie was
washington In 1916, and In consequence OF
letter from Mr.. secretary Sherman attended Iii
the Morton committee loom for the purpose 0f
examining the Oregon cipher dispatches. i.e
wa: was there M two days and suee eied IL declpher
ing item by the - dictionary KEY" with Wi.ic.i
ne had ceen provided. lie o.,nlcd Nos 10
~ ana IA On page 81 OF Tribune pamphlet. AMI
No Is on page Is, as part OF those dispatches
The committee were not in session at the tin
he made the examination, but other expert
were at work On the dispatches He knew
nothing OF the Florida dispatches, he only saw
lew, ana was unable to decipher them, be-
cause the key had not then been discovered.
inc committee then, at IL O'Clock, took re-
cess for an hour.
The New York Western Union officers,
Messrs. Green, Cary and Grant have been re-
called by telegram. Capt Whitney, of this city,
this morning notified the chairman that the
\ lork at the time the summons was received.
THE FLORIDA TELEGRAMS.
The committee reaSSembled at half past one:
Second Assistant Postmaster General Brady re-
called, announced his desire to present the tel
egiams referred TO in his examination Of yes
terday, Whereupon he gave them to Chairman
Potter in the order they were sent. The tele-
grams translated read as follows:
TALLAHASSEE, Dec. 1st-JnO. Wing, Wash
ington:-Florida Will go for Hayes. BRADY.
WASHINGToN.-Gene Brady, Tallahassee
Florida In trouble. speak advisedly. Have
WAsH1NGToN.-Gen. Brady, Tallahasse:nRe- i;
liable information here says democrats claim
two OF Florida returning board. DO you believe
TALLAHASSEE FLA.-JnO. Wing, Washington
We have no intimation of treachery except on
Tie part OF one OF our own number. II we come
to gl1ef 1t is through him-the New Yorker
We are advised he recommends contrary to
our interest. His many and mysterious inter-
views arouse suspicion. BRADY
=, BY the chairman:-who was meant by the
A. Gen. Barlow, Of New York city. Several
other kilograms were read, but contained no
significance, the last one relating the con-
cluslon OF the count, and stating that the state
had gone for Hayes, &C.
IL transpired under cross examination by
Messrs. Potter, Hunter, and Blackburn, that
HJohn Wing" was fictitious name for Judge
Tyner, and that 1t was arranged previous to
witness departure that kilograms should be so
addressed. The cipher used was also arranged
before General Brady left Washington. His
cipher, he said, had been destroyed, and he pre-
sumed Mr.. Tyner had destroyed his copy.
THE QUESTION OF A SUCCESSOR TO DIR. LINDER-
MAN has already been agitated. Mr.. Snowden,
postmaster at Philadelphia, was mentioned
prominently for the place before DR.. Linder-
mans death. He seems to have the best chances
now. There is nothing, however, to indicate
that he is certain OF the position. There are
influences In another direction which may bring
out an altogether different result. 1t is pro-
posed to make the superintendent of the Phila-
delphia, mint (Mr. follockl district judge in
Pennsylvania, In place Of Judge Cadwalader,
deceased; and then to make Postmaster Snow
den superintendent OF the mint at Philadelphia.
This movement is on foot, but it may not sue
ceed. In case it does. Mr.. Snowden, having
been placed In the Philadelphia mint, win leave
two vacancieS-One the Philadelphia pOStmaS-
tership, and the other the dictatorship OF the
mint, in place OF DR.. Linderman. In this case,