The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1879-01-25
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PROCEEDINGS OF THE SENATE.

DEBATE ON THE POST OFFICE BILL-EFFoRr TO
| APPEND THE REJECTED LEGISLATION OF LAST
SESSION on THE OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES FAILURE
TO BRING UP THE EDMUNDs RESOLUTIONS.
WASHINGTON, Jan. "a, 1873.
Mr. SALISBURY. (dem.) of Del. called up the
luton submitted by him ON the 18th inst and pub
shed in full at that time. calling upon the Secretary
of the Treasury for information in regard to commits
sions paid bankers others for services in nego-
tating the sale of United States bonds; whether in
terest had been paid called bonds at the time
that interest accruing on bonds sold to redeem
the same; how much double interest had been paid
and whether the proceeds from the sale of govern
ment bonds had been left deposit in any national
bank acting as government depository?
Mr.. MORRILL,. (rep) of VT. submitted amend
ment providing "that information heretofore COM
municated to either house of Congress shall not be
repeated but reference to the document where the
same is to be found shall be made and the Of
subscribers to the popular loan since june 1877 to
whom no commissions have been paid. may be
omitted"
The amendment was accepted by Mr.. Salisbury.
and the resolution agreed to as amended.
POSTAL MATTERS.
Mr.. Ferry, (rep.) of Mich, from the Committee
Post Offices and Post Roads. reported amend
ments to the Post Office Appropriation bill similar
to those attached to the Post Route bill of last
session, which did not pass These amendments
authorize the Postmaster General to readjust the
compensation hereafter to be paid for transporta-
ton of mails railroad routes each railroad COM
pany be paid according space occupied and rate
of speed maintained, and divide mail matter into
four classes, as follows:-First, written matter;
second, periodical publications under registration;
third, miscellaneous printed matter; fourth, mer-
chandise and fixing the rate of postage thereon the
same as provided in that bill.
The amendments referred to the Committee
on Appropriations.
Mr.. FERRY said at the close of the last session of
Congress the conference committee on the House
bill to establish post routes and for other purposes
submitted report, which not considered, tor
the that the House refused to consider the
amendments of the Senate claiming that one of them
in the nature of and constituted revenue bill.
1t had been understood that further conference
might lead to agreement upon the BILL and he hoped
the Senate would order new conference.
BRAZILIAN STEAMSHIP SUBSIDY.
Mr.. HERMAN. dem. of y. Y, inquired if some of the
S300o 900 per annum to the Brazilian Mail Steamship
Company.
Several Senators the democratic side-"Yes;
yes"
Mr.. FERRY said the object Of having another
ference was to see whether the two houses Of Con-
gress could not agree upon the bill in the main by
striking out the subsidy or other Objectionable fea-
lures.
Mr.. HAML1N (rep) of Me-. denied that this bill was
revenue bill. Ii it be revenue measure to add an
appropriation for mail service between Brazil and
the United States then there were many bills origi-
bills
Mr.. FERRY said the provision to which the House
excepted a revenue measure that allowing all
books admitted to the mails for conveyance therein
under the provisions of the Postal Union treaty to be
delivered free of any customs duty under such regu-
ations may be agreed upon by the Secretary of the
Treasury and the Postmaster General.
Ny. HAMI.1N said treaty had been made by the
treaty making power to allow these books to i'll
the country prescribed and this clause for the
purpose Of carrying out our part of that treaty.
MIR. HERMAN said this Brazilian subsidy business
he'd To lie in IN in.
dependent proposition. The bill also contained an
amendment restoring the franking privilege, and
that, also. should come up as separate measure.
Pending discussion the morning hour expired.
Mr.. FERRY hoped the consideration OF the
ference report would be continued. Several Sena-
tors, who are opposed to the Brazilian subsidy OBJ
jected.
orders and proceed with the consideration of the
ference report on the Post Route bill. Agreed to-
yeas 80, nays % as follows:-
Allison nsns suTnsse
Dawes Dawes pSSrssT fsry arSnd h"%n Hill es
Nss,mSn Mitchell; Tsadoss rS%S Rollins, sargent
sasy see oon Davis Of Illinois
Of West yrFn. = 2Gaas Eaton Gordon
hees, Wadleigh and Whyte-22.
Mr.. WHITE (dem.) of NJ D., reviewed. the history OF
the Post Route BILL and said the Senate put various
amendments upon it. one of which provided for a
donation to one John Roach for doing us the honor
of flying the American flag. He then spoke OF the
parliamentary rights of each house of Congress, the
duties OF conference committees &C., and during his
remarks said jokingly to Mr. Elmunds, OF Vermont,
that sometimes bills slipped through the Senate
without Senators knowing what was in them, unless
detected by the lynx eye OF the Senator from YER
mont. Then he woke the Senators up with an OBJ
lection but when he.went out God, help the people
Replying to remarks of Mr.. Conkling as to the
rights of legislative bodies. Mr.. WHITE said man
understood better than he Mr. Conkling) did what
1t was to have the gloves and be ready the fray
The debate then turned upon questions of parlia-
mentary law and the privileges Of each House of
Congress. II was continued at some length by
Messrs. Thurman Edmunds, Blaine Ferry, Whyte,
Hoar Conkling. Allison. Withers and others.
Mr. THURMAN, tdem.) Of Ohio, submitted resolu-
ton "that the conferees to be appointed the part
of the Senate be instructed to agree strike out the
amendment of the Senate relating to the franking
privilege added by way of proyiso to the eleventh
section OF the bill
Mr.. EpsuNDs said this subject involved questions
of order he moved that it be referred to select
mitee of Ave Senator's to consider quietly and olsen
tange this knot in respect to constitutional privi-
lege.
Resolved That tho anon dments the Senate to the
pending bin changing the rate of duties imported books
certain matter free which now pays postage being in the
Judgment of the House an infringement of the constitu-
s% tho that BODY they are hereby
Mr.. FERRY rep.) of Mich. submitted a resolution
that the Senate agree to the second report of the
mittee of Conference the resolution of the House,
returning the House bill with the Senate amend
and insist upon its amendments to tho bill and ask
for conference on the dsagreeng votes of the two
Houses
After further discussion the motion of Mr. Ed
munds to refer the question to special committee
of five senators was agreed to-yeas 80, nays II.
MR.. EDNuNDs' RESOLUTION.
Mr.. EDMUSDs. OF Vermont, moved to take up tho
resolutions recently submitted by him declaring the
validity OF the thirteenth, fourteenth and fifteenth
amendments to the constitution of the United States.
MIR. THURMAN. of Ohio, moved to adjourn. Re-
jected-yeas a. nays 25-as follows:-
YEAsMcssrs Armstrong. Beck Cockrell Davis of ILL.,
nois Davis of West Virginia, Dennis. Eaton, Gordon
Harris Hereford mn Jones 81 Floda herman, Lamar,
Thurman, Voorhees, Whytesnd Wuhers-2i.
NAys-Messrs Allison Anthony Blaine Booth, Bruce.
Burnside, Conklng, Dorsey, Edmunds, Ferry Garland
Hoar Howe Jones Of Nevada, Mcmillan Mitchell morrill,,
Oglesby Patterson, Plumb, Rollins, saunders Spencer
Wadcigh aud Windom-25.
Pairs on political questions announced fol-
lows:--Messrs. Butter, Wallace, Bailey, Barnuin,
Garland, Mcdonald, Merrimon, Ransom, Coke and
Grover with Messrs. Conover, Cameron of Pennsyl-
vana, Cameron of Wisconsin, Dawes, kirkwood,
Matthews, ingalls,, Paddock, Sargent and Teller.
Before the vote announced Mr. GARLAND,
ldem OF Ark, said he had voted NO." although he