New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-06-24

the case OF his veto Of tho resolution twohrds vote
Of all the members elected TO the Board OF Aldermen il
necessary for Its passage
COMMISSIONER sPAULDING DEFENDS HIS ACTION.
The action of the Rapid Transit Commissioners in lay
ing line for elevated railway from the CITY
Hall 10 the Grand Central Depot, via Lafayettep'ace
and Fourthave and at the depot to connect Win anu
be concdent with the Harlem and Hudson River htlI-
roads 10 different points the norberly limits oil the
city awakened surprise that has not yet subsidized and
strikes AT 80 many and various interests as TO cause
much opposition These Commissioners, who were ap-
pointed by the Mayor April 2 are Henry G steDoms'
Henry T. Spauldng. president OF the Central Trust
Company ~ Pine and Nasssu-sts, Benjamin c. Arnold.
Lewis q. Morris and samnelR Fiey, the two iatte G
| representing the annexed Weslehesier district WIN
the of obtaining Their opinion OF the eIllloisn
| which has been passed upon their work the Commits
| s.Oners were visited yesterday afternoon .
Henry F. Spauldng was found al ms ONCE IN Nassau
st. "a great deal OF the criticism, ne sa1, snow W
norancc of The facts, ana Woulu NOT nave ooen " 80
| the clicumstan were understood PeOpie seem 10
think thai have desired 10 force another elevated
road upon them. Nothing OF the KIND. we are onIy
suggestive commission We merely placed IL Wtnh the
they want H. Ifthey don't IT, of IT viii not
be built. We merely Indicate route that certain PER
nentiy useful iine. But before any such road can be
built the consent must De obtained OF at least nan the
property along the route and also the consent OF the
bid tae Teomest for this route come from Mr.. Van
| at came from Mr. Vandcrblts friends, Edwards
| Perrepont, M Jewett and Mr.. DePew They came 10
us ana SAID that needed TO give the city the
most complete possible means OF rapid transit between
me extreme limits Of the city; and after examining
into the question we were compelled by the facts to
the view, and in the discharge OF orr duty 10
indicate the route Bur, said before, our fixing me
line does not give the night 10 build IL. Though WHAT
we have done to have been misunderstood aui
GLAD that has questioned the purity OF our mo
ves. W. have not proposed that property sDouu nc
taken without remuneration. We are as jealous Oh t9
rights OF property DoiderS as any other cIao, ,h u
would be quick vote against any enterprise OF this
kind depnyng 90 Just @ b, @
pose will not be tnAing. Mr. Vanderbilt must tunnel
under the Harlem RIVER aud we are not gong 70 paYo
his trains whisS by crossings on Tue Ioit noliis Ia
road His track must 20 ever or under me foid"ays'
There a mistake, 10 the road under fafkdNe
The present horse railway tunnel VIII NOT pe uhcu, "u
another tunnel east OF this, aud Tor the greater part Oh
segs Of trains under Fory-second-s and along
under Parkaye., without disturbing the appearance OF
OF trains perceptlbIe; Tor this tunnel viii be
double, there will be openings 10 the sreel above ana
the passing trains viii create current IN the direction
IN which they move carrying the steam ana smoke ont
st the ends. .,,,.,.,..
fact that there about the same NUMBER OF acres
above the Harlem River a. below IT. We want 10 see
The thousands VINO have been driven TO NewJersey and
Long Island in quest Of cheap homes able 10 settle ID
the upper part OF he city Inc opposition 70 ths rou9
comes mainly from the owners OF the other elevated
roads; and the fact that these have been consolidated
and swallowed by the Manhattan Company, seemed to
make route al the more necessary Tne Man
haitian Company was so eager 10 gODDIe up Tue
privileges il wanted for ITSELF that overlooked what
was heng done toward new At the request of
this company laid out The route III fItt -hnthsi
connecting the sixth Avenue Line vita the Eighth
Avenue Line ont the express condition that the fuy
third street Line be removed. Yet have only
gcsted such Of Fftynntst 10 rests with the PARK
Commissioners who have jurisdiction there, and with
| the Board OF Aldermen 10 give or refuse consent"
WHAT Is SAID AT THE COMMISSIONS ROOMS.
At of the Commissioners OF Rapid Transit,
No 81 Exehan gepaee Lewis Marvin said he regretted
that explanations were out with the resolutions
adepted by the commissioners Much MISUNDERSTANDING
would have been prevented thereby II SAID at the
rooms that the new route lad out - satisfy tue
rapid transit wants OF the people of the Tweny-thrd
and Twenty-fourth Wards 10 was plain that the
best possible rapid transit could be given TO them By
bringing the Harlem and the spuyten Dyyl and Port
Morri, and Hudson River roads into the rapid transit
system by which the questions Of frequency OF
trains rates Of fare aud tbs number of stops could be
settled the interests Of the people by the Rapid Tran
sit Commissioners. The elevated roads. even when
extended into Westehester County would NOT give iran
SIT sufficiently RAPID for persons living beyond MOT
risaua or the Hudson River side OF the upper part
or the city The distance RON Fofubain 70 the Cli{
Hall could be in half the time by the ii trlem Rail
extended 10 Fardham. There thousands OF clerks
engaged in business below Canast It is said who could
90 TO and fro quickly and with little expense. The
OF fare would be mach less than the present Gle
charged probably on commission trains 20 Mcrrisanls
Wards had asked the Harlem Road 70 give them such
RAPID transit facilities before the charter Tor an under
ground road 10 the City Hall expired by limit alton.
After this Commission appointed some representa-
tives OF the Harlem Road conferred with the commits
soners on the subject OF new hne but did ot SPEAK IN
an official capacity. They desired TO know If the COM
disposed to grant such route. 1ney
told Mr va dtfbilt IriehuS tat SUCH an aiticst'Oh
must be made III writing. The commissioners bad no
power to force a rapid transit plan Mr. Wander
bit, but since s friends wanted IL The commissioners
glad 10 give their sanction 10 IT, The argument
In favor or the route that 1t made use OF lines
Of road already Dul ana 10 cOhsiueIaDIe extent ul-
dergrOuud which very nigh rate or speed coud De
,' 40 w hSo,S trs,s while bsIng isfayett-pIsce
The streets through which IT passed would be benefited
ms a. maSSfac3nrin bnsnesS and daaly that an
alsNsafa al al N
greatly benefit Broadway property and DO away with all
necessity for surface road on the main thoroughfarc
of the CITY An underground road through Fourhave.
had been discussed bat was deemed
more Objectionable elevated road but for what
sson was not stated. The commissioners had pos
tive assurance from Mr. Vanderbilt mat be would build
their consent; but III the minds OF the commissioners
there was scarcely shadow OF doubt IL was asserted
that most OF the opposition outside OF the rival com
panies from the few rich residents OF Parkave.,
whose street would not be altered IN its appearance.
REASONS FOR THE ROAD IN FIFTY-NINTH-sr
It was also stated at the rooms of the Commission
that IL had been suggested TO place the Fy-nnthst
branch to connect the Sixth and Ninth Avenue Roads
over the the Park side OF the street. which
would remove the tracks considerable distance from
the houses the south side aud leave broad carriage
way. The sidewalk along the Park wall being very
wide would not be seriously intringed upon AT first
the commissioners opposed 10 laying out such
route but on consideration they thought that Fifty
nnth-s property would be much less injured by the
road than Fifty-thIdst property, which, owing TO the
Of the street, bad III is SAIL deprecated
since the connecting road was Dnt through
t. The Manhattan Company agrees 10 remove inns
road the other be built ana at the lnler-
section of Eighh-aye with FirtYnntnst and opposite
the scholars Gate to the PARK. to cover the railway
structure ornamental manner as to reduce The
danger OF frightening horses The commissioners were
also influenced st was said by the consideration that
the crossing the road level az FIy-third-SL,
and possible source OF accident would De zone away
with
L. E. Worcester secretary OF the New-York Elevated
Railroad said reference To the proposed new RAPID
transit route, that IL did not reasonable that the
Harlem Railroad Company would build an elevated
road which would k ITS present surface horse Ialroa
whose earnings since the success OF rapid transit
had amounted to per cent on the entire capital OF the
Harlem Railroad IL might be, he thought, move to
thar