The New York herald., 1879-08-25
Tie Secretary Of the Club and Mr.. Ward
on Judge Elhott's Charges
GENERAL DENIAL OF THE COMPLAINT
The Club Prepared to Answer All Charges
Made in Affdavits
TORONTO. August %. 1870.

here, the leading members OF the defunct Hanan
Club did not deem them of sufficient Importance to
demand areply and expressed a wish that the dead
wafer might be allowed to flow past to join that
which had previously been thrown at them on the
Courtney matter. However in conversation with
tho secretary, when your correspondent repre-
sented to him the colorng of probability that would
be given to these statements by Hanlans foolhardi-
ness ut Barrie and pressed his notice the public
character which had been thrust the late club
the secretary said he willing to answer any
questions which your correspondent might ask.
"what, then,"I asked, "is your opinion of the
whole charges?"
"That they were quite uncalled for and utterly
without foundation"
.'Thsn there is no probability. as the Judge says.
of good many people being crushed when the ball
begins to roll?
There is NO ball to roll and people to crush.
Our actions will stand the test OF the strictest
morality. not alone what is legally right what is
legally wrong.
"You again deny having bought Courtney?"
.Of course. and what under the sun makes
you ask that question again? Have not told you
time and again?
II know. but Judge Elliott says that he did not be-
lieve it at first and does believe it now
"what reason had he for changing his opinion?"
me says tnat the cnanBe came APO Ut wnen the
Hanlan party were in New York on their way to
England"
"Mr. Ward can tell you about that think he
wished the Judge to go over to England with them.
and the Judge asked Mr. Ward to take charge of his
for trip to England 1 believe also that Mrs.
Elliott came down to the steamer along with the
Judge and her son. and she handed over her son to
Mr.. Ward with profusion Of thanks for his kind
ness. Does this look like the Judges believing Mr.
Ward to be the associate Of pack OF thievesa'
"Thcn the Judge must have become estranged
after the English trip begun?
II conclude SO. and lay the entire cause Of the
wickedness Of the Hanlan Club dawning upon old
Elliott to the fact Of Hanlans discarding the boat
sent to England. which understand was tub OF
thing"
"In what respectw
'In this way. We wrote for q duplicate Of the
Needlegun, which Hanlan rowed Courtney. In
England awaited the arrival of this boat. You
have soen her the island and know that she is no
more like the Needlegun than 1 am like you."
$50 Hanan would not use her?"
mo; but you can get more about her from Mr.
Ward.
'Now. sir. you know that the Hanlan Club permit
ted it to be spread all America that Hanlan
rowed at Pttsburg in Elliott boat. when you
know well as I do that he used o Swadde. How
do you explain that?"
."rhs is the only spot on our record that q man
place his finger We did not give out that Han
Ian rowed in the Elliott boat provided for that race
for she not tit boat. leave you to infer how
that report got into the press and content myself
with saying that it would have been better to have
contradcted that report
.'Then dissatisfaction with Elliotts boats is, in
your opinion. the cause of this fuss?"
w ,.A
and never rowed race in one of them in which
did not feel that handicapped The first
boat got. the used in the Plsisted race,
good boat. All the others were bad. Even the
Nccdlegun required fixing after got her.
How about your account with Judge Elliott?"
1--WE a club got boat from him as
present and paid him every cent for every boat.
He generally charged us 500 for q boat. and
very much mistaken il any other oarsman paid him
than $50 for the same kind of a boat. But Mr..
Ward give you the boat business better than
See him.
"will you give me an affidavit denying Elliott's
chargesw
"Let Elliott first put his charges in the shape of
affidavit and publish 1t. will then give you the
affidavit OF each the twelve members Of the Han
Ian Club as 1t was last constituted, denying every
charge"
"It is time to insist on Justice. Let these
charges be formulated by Judge Elliott. We will
formulate reply aud force issue. We don't
want any French criminal proceedings. We are not
called upon to defend ourselves against every ir-
responsible man who may shake his head nowingly
TO q reporter"
"will you let me go through your books and
papers fully IL desireg"
Certainly, when q straight charge is brought
against US. You know enough already of our ac-
counts to know that Hanlan. for whose benefit the
club was organized. has received the fullest
benefit from it. We have made no money
from 1t. Not cent has been charged for
my own travelling expenses. But this has been
told time and again, an you may just as we'll let
Judge Elliott know, and any others no may inter-
them selves ia our AHA RS that we will give our
selves not the slightest concern about their insnua-
tions until these insnuations be put into legal shape.
We will then make 1t hot enough for them, though.
suppose we are such an influential set of that
mp body and soul
"Thcn understand that as soon on any one will
assume the responsibility OF making formal charges
club will defend themselvesy"
..Yes. and il they wish learn the secret history
Anything more p
"Nothing. but come in and me, and don't talk
Hanlan charges"
'supposs I tax Hanlan at Barrier
"It was an awful foolish thing OF the boy TO row
there Ward and told him not to go unless he felt
At. but he went. and In condition to row
than you and are now"
''How did lie come to 90 thereY
''In the nrst flush OF his liberty he made the EN-
gagement. He has been exhibiting over the country
and giving little shows Mt the island; been the lion
the place and been forced to swi ginger ale until
his muscles soft and his flesh habby. 1 cannot
tell how sorry am for It,.
''IIe has not had time to pair his healthY''
"His health IN all right, but cannot play
Snowman aud row races He must train aud have
quiet and his boats--t would have broken Jimmie
heasiey's heart to have them. Ned has got to
have to manage for him. for he overesti-
mates his great powers and thinks he get right
In n lew days. At IL nonsense, tell you. Put him
IN fix and we know that he can beat any man living
In that the most sanguine wofld scout as
sense, but he will not do IL rs IL is.
'what do your friends think Of the racer
ats effect has bad. very bad"
How about RileyY
''iiiloy pulled the best race against Hanlan that
ever paled. Mind you, say this advisedly.
for know that the last Is always the best
"Wasn Z he in splendid fxy