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attempt in any State I?
Al never heard.

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No.
Mr.. Tilden, confirming, said he had con-
fidential relations with Marble, who, before
going TO Florida, called 10 bid him good
bye. There was nothing in their convers =
tion al the meeting bearing on this ques-
ton. Ii was no more than a formal leave
taking. Mr.. 1iiden re-asserted that in his
interview with Cooper no idea OF accepting
the proposition TO purchase votes was de-
bated bttween them or thou ht of for g
moment As for Pelton he was last man in
the world he lTilden) would have selected
If be had intended TO enter into such trans.
actions as purchasing electoral votes
Being asked why, in his card to the pub
lie, he did not refer to the Baltimore trans
action, Tiiden replied that it was not peril
nent.
Q-Do you not see that your statements
thar you had no knowledge
Of the negotiations, except through
the Tribune" il likely deceive
bscause you had heard Of the Baltimore
uegoIiations?
Mr.. TiIden answered that he did not
know of the cipher kilograms which had
passed on the subject, nor of any negotia-
tions, but did know that there had been an
sn end to by his intervention. =" made
nv statement" said Mr. Tilden, lin &C.
c1rdance with the tru h."
! Q.-Did you Intend to convey the idea
that yog had no knowledge OF this of
fer?
Al did not intend to convey any ides
on the subject. l have been advised by a
hundred people to do one thing and another.
I 4 I a III -,
the fact of The Baltimore transaction.
Ia the course Of very able and close exam
ination. Nr. Reid, who conducted this
portion Of the examination, occasionally
requested Mr.. Tilden to be frank, but
failed 20 get an admission. Witness re-
membered no conveTs alton a. the Third
National Bank with Smith Wed, prIor to
the lat;ers departure Tor North or South
Carolina.
Mr.. Hiscock then Continued the examin-
alton OF Mr. I'ilden.
Q-When the dispatch was received in
New York, saying '.you are impcriiIing
the result here" and advising that soue
man should be found who could be trusted
for the work, did you ever see the dis
patch ?
Al did.
Odd you not know that information
had reached here in dispatch TO Gram
mercy park that you had oae majority in
Florida?
Al heard that ! had one majority in
Florida, but did not see the dispatch re-
ierred 10 as conveying that and other in
formation. Did not see the dispatch to
Geo. W. Smith, saying ''see my dispatch to
Spain.'
Q-GOvernor-you learned from Cooper
and could have learned from Pelton, your
nephew, that he had been engaged in trans
sctions connected with the obtaining OF ell
ectoral votes in North and South Carolina.
Did you not feel called upon to find ont
! Col. Pelfon's relations To tie Nationa!
| Committee?
Although the best way TO act in the
matter was TO stop it. | thought the same
thing of the Florida case.
! Q-Gou have said ii you had anv idea
of influencing these boards venalIy the
| last person you would have chosen would
be Col Psltcn. Why did you not deem it
prop'r 20 cali COoper's or Hewitt'5 attsn-
ton 10 the msttsr and ask them TO take
| charge OF 1t, lest PeltOn might compromise
the Democratic Gene raj Committee?
Ain the first place ] supp sd thew had
full knowledge and would be able to take
care that noihlng wrong should be done
The civil law does not recognize purposes
until they are embodied in actions. The
church punishes the purposes OF criminals
even ii they are not carried cut. The
atmosphere at that time was full OF rumors
Of fraudulent returning boards. | declare
before God and my country that the States
of Louisiana and Finrida were bought
(meaning by Republicsns.) / would scorn
ard condemn my righteous title ifthe Demo
cratic party mad secured my seat by fraud.
Witness did not remember receiving any
special information in regard TO the ex-
pepses Of the legal proceedings in the dis.
puicd Southern States. He knew nothing
about it, but supposed these matters were
under the charge Of some members Of the |
National Committee. To some extent he |
had been patron OF CcL Pelron.
Mr.. Hiscock asked if it did not occur to |
witness that he ought 20 investigate Col! |
PelIon's relations TO the National Commit |
tee after he learned Of Pelton's Baltimore |
transactions?
Mr. Tilden said he thought the best way !
to deal with such a transaction was 10 stop |
it; not to do it himself and not TO let any
body else do it. lie thought that such A
course would have been better in florida
than what was done there.
Mr.. Hiscock objected to the later part
OF this answer, and Mr.. Hunton said he
thought the witness ought 10 be allowed to
answer fully.
Mr.. Hiscock though 30 also, but witnsss
should not 90 out Of lis way TO attack
Other persons.
Mr.. Tllden said that WHEN a certain
party set up high standard of morality
he proposed TO analSze that standard and
see if they lived up to it themselves. Col.
Pelton thought it eIcusable 10 fight fire
with fire. and adopt the tactics OF The en-
emy.. Pelton's act was an ofiense, bu. the
acts on the other side were CoDsumm ated
and gave the presidency to a man not cleo
ted. He did not attempt TO excuse Col.
Pelton. The latter did not act up 10 his
own standard of morality.
Mr.. Hiacock asked what evidence wit
ness hsd that any votes or certificates We're
bought By Republicans.
Mr Tilden said this evidence was before
the committee in the testimony Of McLiun.
Mr.. Hiscock-Gov. Tildep, are you en-
tirely clear that McLinn was influenced in
his action by the hope of Office?
Al swear so, 10 the best OF my recollec-
tion. | helIeve / shall be Just to every one
in this examination and shall protect my
self fully without going into matters con-
nected with my family relations.
Mr.. lHiscock-Had you bny informa-
tion at that time th4t the returning board
of South Carolina or Florida was for sale?
Give the name Of the gentleman who told
you.
Al can't give you the name Of any
man. | state it on evidence that would
convict any one. 1t appeared in the pa
pers.
Mr.. Hiscock-We will now go back
TO the time when Pelton visited Baltimore.
ask you again to give me any evidence
YOU have that those boards were being cor
rup,ed by Republicans. limit you up 10
the time Of the final actions of these
boards.
Al have no evidence up to that time.
What learned was from subsequent inves-
tigstion.
Mr.. I'll deus attention was directed to
dispatch No 81, (translation.)
TALLAHASSEE, Nov. 22nd-To Col. Pei
ton, Is Grammercy Park-Waverly asks
me to say, let forces be got together imme-
diately 10 readiness for contingencies, either
here or in Louisiana. VIII do you not
answer? Tsigned] Marble.
Mr.. Tilden said, don't know that any
large sum OF money was raised by the DEM
ocrats in New York after the election for
political purposes EXPECT when the National
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