New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-06-25
RAILWAY RATES AND PLANS.

CRIMINATION IN RATES.
The Board of Aldermen yesterday referred to the
Committee on Streets the report OF the Rapid IRAN
sit Commissioners, which. among other routes, lays
ont the one from Forty-sccondst. to the City Hail.
There was not much discussion on the subject.
The vote on the reference, however. is be-
lieved to be an indication of strong feeling
against the plan. Protests from pfoperty-owner
were also received. Park Commissioner Lane says
he Will never consent allow the road to trespass
on the parks Commissioner Wetmore declined to
give any opinion. Further testimony from mer-
chants and railway men was heard before the
Assembly Committee OH Determinations III Rates.
MR.. VANDERBIL1'S CITY LINE OPPOSED.
DISCUSSION IN 1HE BOARD OF ALDERMEN MAYOR
CooPERs COMMUNICATIONS - THE ALDERMEN
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE CITY HALL ROUTE.
The Board of Aldermen entered INTO no
general discussion OF the new scheme Tor an ee'aeu
railroad from Forty ccond-s to the City Hail. as was
expected yesterday. committee OF propertyhoiders,
among whom were Henry Bergh, Oswald Ottend0rier,
o. b. Potter William Skidmore and DR.. willard Parker
jr present to enter protest against the propoSeu
Vanderbilt Line remonstrauce which they pte"ehted
to tie Mayor Saturday was received, but "a the
whole subject was referred a committee OF the Board
the property owners committee was not heard Inc
report OF the RAPID Transit Commissioners Was sent TO
the Board by the NJ lyor with message in which he
snid:
The petition upon which those proceedings are
founded shows upon ITS ace tna Tue opleGt 70 DC 1o
tined was the establishment OF route OF routes w ' no
annexed district 60 facilitate rapid communication LOT
that district Departing from the Intention OF the
ena petition. the COMMISSIONERS III ADDITION 10
routes that district. have o1a.ed routes IN tdt part
from FoTtyseeondst to the City Hail. If adopted would
constitute IA most valuable franchise whlch wOud ne
given away without any compensation to the CITY ana
without provision for payment for damages 10 private
property The that grants have been heretofore gwen
without such provisions Is no reason why tnat mistake
should be repeated Ine route through Flfty-nnth-s
would be invasion of the parks OF the CITY anu OF
private rights for the benefit OF the present RAPID transit
The Laid ont in the annexed district are within
the purvew OF the petition upon which the proceedings
are based. have not had "A suhoeut opportunity 10
enable me 10 determine whether the routes actually
laid IN that district are such as Will best accommO
the public needs. II will be doubted whether me
wanting iu that defipeness and inaity OF location
wAich is prescribed by the statute
letter from the Rapid Transit Commissioners was
read In explanation Of their report in which they say
In order TO establish complete system of rapid tran
sit roads throughout the city, have created route
below Forty-second-s between the two now in opera
ton and under management BY means OF this con-
nection existing railroads above the Harlem River can
at once be made available rapid transit routes We
have also located routes above the Harlem River. in
connection with which the existing rapid transit roads
may extend their lines into the upper part OF the CITY,
II will be perceived that in the report we now have the
honor TO submit, the conditions which we have the
right and which expected to demand OF the con-
tracing parties who may subscribe to and are to enjoy
the advantages of the roads laid out necessarily not
included. The most careful attention Will DO given
to this part Of the subject. The rates OF fare
will be fixed at as low will be regardeda just
and remunerative for the work performed as late
experience has demonstrated TO be wise; and so with
all the other points The rapidly aud frequency OF the
trains and the necessary accommodation FOR our IaDor
ing classes, Will all receive the most thoughtful care
and Incorporated in any agreement that VIII be made
before hnal contract shall be determined upon.
1t may not be improper TO add In relation TO the
route down Parkave that is proposed to tunnel that
ayenue I'm that there shall DO no opening
to the surface from IT, and in relation to the Fifty
ninst route. that the condition of granting the roue
through Fifty-nnh-st between Sixth and Nnth-aves.
was based upon the abandonment and removal Of Ike
Fifty-third-st route between Sixth and Ninth-lves"
President Mott who presented this letter. which was
signed by all the Commissioners also offered the follow
ing resolutions
Resolved That consent is hereby given to the location
OF the various for steam railways fixed and de-
termined by the Rapid Transit Commissioners. and TO
the and operation OF steam railways or con-
nectons thereof through, upon over and across every
and all avenues, lands and places Included In
said routes.
HOW THE ALDERMEN TREATED THE SUBJECT.
Alderman Roberts began to speak on the Importance
OF the action the Board to take on the subject,
when he was called TO order by Alderman
sauer, who moved to refer the papers relating
TO the subject to the Committee Streets.
Alderman Morris moved that they be referred
to the Committee Railroads Alderman Roberts again
attempted address the Board the subject, but was
Immediately called TO order by Alderman Sauer. a mo-
ton refer not being open to debate The evident in
tenton Of Alderman Suer to cut of any debate on the
subject and especially prevent Alderman Roberts,
who known to he strongly opposed to the Vanderbilt
Elevated Railway project, from speaking on the sub
feet reused the Indignation Of Alderman Morris who
moved tnat Alderman Roberts be allowed to address
the Board aud his motion was carried.
Alderman Roberts SAID he had no intention Of debat
the property Of thousands citizens destroyed
10 satisfy the demands OF one or more corpora
robbery. He understood that it was the
intention Of the interested person or persons
without an opportunity for debate Whether that
not, certainly question which should not
properly the Committee Railroads. he would not
object TO It's being referred to the Committee Streets
P0yag tS were allowed an oppor
Alderman Robert Hall said he was completely aston
ished at the attitude which the of
scheme had taken He hoped the matter would be re-
ferred TO the Committee on Railroads.
Alderman 5evin SAID he hoped that the subject would
Cmitee on Railroads was Known TO be opposed 10 the
scheme one OF the members OF that committee tRob
er had publicly expressed himself in strong opposition
it would be referred that committee, which
composed OF men who could properly consider the
matter, notwithstanding their private opinions The
Committee Streets (Sauer, Kenny and Stewar,) was
quite as much preJadced me other way a. had been
to refer to the Committee On Streets was carried by the
follow ing vote:
Yeds-Bums. Carroll. O. Hail. Haughon HYATT keenan,, |
Kenncy Kiernan, Mott Roberts, sauer ses, seyin and
Srack.
Ndgs-Fiuk Hall. Jacobus Morris Perley stewart
With the exception OF Alderman Roberts, who ex- !
planned his vote oecause OF the opposition TO his own
cOmmitteeJ the above vote Is regarded indication
OF what support the scheme may receive final
The OF an agent OF Mr. Vanderbilts about
OF the Board IN the morning the
comment.
1t moved and carried that the committee hold |
pablo meetings aud give one weeks notice to the pub
lie. that any persons desiring TO be heard in
the sch may be heard. Alderman Morris introduced
the following resolution. which was referred 10 the
street COMMITTEE:
Resored That this Common Council VIII not consent
10 The esabl shmen Of additional route rontes