The New York herald., 1879-02-09

representing
Board Of state of South Carolina give
their certificate to the democratic electors for
of money.
Nh. TILpEN EMPHATIC
I Immediately said continued Mr.. Tden with
greater force) that such offer should be enter
tanned and that negotiation of that nature should
be tolerated. that not cent should be furnished for
any such purpose; that Colonel Pelton should be in-
mediately teiegraphed for to return to New York;
/ did not at that time know that Mr.. Smith NJ Weed
had gone to south Carolina-that he was there or
had been there at any time had not seen him after
abouts at that time; my conversation with Mr..
Cooper was very brief-the whole matter dis
posed of within from five to ten minutes; made
no inquiry with regard any details and there was
no discussion between u.s. Mr.. Cooper concurred
with me entirely as to the. measures to be taken;
although took II for granted he would make every
necessary communication on the subject did not
leave 1t ct that; obtained from him Col
onc Pelton's address in Baltimore and caused him
to be immediately telegraphed to in peremptory
manner TO return to New York; my despatch to
Colonel feon was | IN res% ordnafy % had mo no
translate into cipher; 1t occurred to me that
there was any reason for conceament my belief is
that the despatch to Colonel Peton to return was
sent in my own name; think sent it or had it
sent within ten minutes after Mr.. Cooper left the
house; Colonel Pelton returned that night to New
York: with reference to Florida. never saw any
of the Florida kilograms, either in cipher in
translaon the contents OF no one of them. 80 far
as know. ever communicated to me; do not
think the contents OF any one Of them relating to
the course OF this controversy thus far was ever
communicated to me, and in looking over them am
not able to recall any of them that had
seen before; did not know. and not informed
that there had been any offer from anybody
representing or claiming to represent the Florida
Board of Canvassers or any member of it to give
that vote to the democratic electors till after the
tcate had been given and the votes OF the electors
deposited for transmission to Washington; my
first information the subject was subse-
cember, 1876; some time after Mr.. Manton
Marble returned from the South; don't know
ONE day and mentioned to me as Of byeone affair
that the State of Florida offered. rather the
certificate. which would have yielded the VOTE
but he said the offer had been declined; sometime
later in ths summer. about the time Mr.
Marbles letter on the Electoral Commission
ton about this offer from Florida. and he
answered in single sentence that all offers had been
declined: that was all the knowledge had on the
subject till the publication of the dispatches; with
reference to the State of Oregon none of these
telegraphic dispatches now refer to the dispatches
contained in the Tribune No. A. never saw one OF
them in cipher translation; the substance Of
one of them was ever communicated to me. with the
STATING oA that he should give the certiscate
of the State to the democratic elcctor Cronin
the substance Of that despatch was communicated
it in cipher till after it appeared the exam
ination of the Morton committee: in what form
that communication made to me cannot now
state, but made aware Of the fact; several Of
these CIPHER kilograms appeared to have been ad-
dressed to Colonel Pelton ut No. Is Gramercy Park
my residence; / asked OF my young men to
look them over and tell me how many there
were OF them; think he told me there fifteen
ton. chiefly sent by Mr. Manton Marble; far as
know and believe no one of these dispatches
was delivered ut my house; Colonel Pelton s
habits and hours and mine are entirely different;
was still Governor of the State of New York.
and had many executive duties to perform; was
burdened by daily receptions of people who came
to from all parts Of the United States; think
from three to Ave hours day the least time l
was compelled to devote to these duties; Colonel
Pelton seldom to the house till after had
been long in bed; he very busy at the committee
rooms and saw very little Of him. but think il any
lXa tharp IF All n ha
house should have found out the fact somehow;
do not believe any Of these cipher kilograms ever
eye aud they came within my knowledge.
THE VISITING STATESMEN.
South to the disputed states to watch and guard the
canvass ON behalf OF the democratic party. That
measure originated either with Mr.. Hewitt or
the election think General Grant wrote
letter Which h;. he propSsed ;,ssr .;.,, sush an !,
before embraced 1t Immediately after; did not
select or send the gentlemen who went to these dis.
srt atsr con.nItat;nn WITH r no'
Here Mr.. Tilden's voice became very feeble again.
did not attempt to supervise their acts did not
communicate with Them in no instance during the
whole OF trs7tne did l. directly Indirectly.
municste Or Corresponi with any gentleman that was
| any communications from them any or them
| except communication sent by Mr.. Randall,
Mr.. Ottendoffer. Mr. Lamar and MIR. watterson sug-
| gestng some kind of proposition TO be made by me
| to Mr.. Hayes never answered that despatch, ex-
| cept verbally to Mr. Ottendofcr; after he re-
| turned to New York he called upon me; I
| was very busy all the time; I took it for
| granted that these gentlemen understood their
business and did not undertake direct them the
idea that they were my personal agents in any sense
has foundation in fact they were the representa-
tives delegates of the democratic party. chosen
generally by its organization; money, so far
knew, went to OF these States with any
mission authority contemplation to do thing
which these gentlemen ought not to do to do any
thing but defend the interests of the democratic
party-to watch and guard these interests against
apprehended frand; during the whole time from the
eth OF November, ls76-whch the day of the
clection--to the 9th day of December in the
same year. and VIII ch the day on which the
electors met and deposited their votes. maintained
a uniform attitude; my purpose that under
circumstances would enter into competition to OBJ
tain the certificate of the canvassing boards in the
disputed states, even those to which believed
were entitled. except by discussion. argu-
ment. reason. truth. justice. Here Governor
never was time. moment. not an
instant in which entertained idea Of seek
ing obtain these certificates by any vcnal induce
ment. any promise OF money or of Office TO the
men who had them to give and dispose of; my
purpose on that subject was perfectly distinct
and invariable; that was generally assumed
by all my friends without discussion; ;
it may have been sometimes expressed. but GER
tainly whenever the slightest occasion tor IL TO
be discussed il was expressed II was never devatcd
MIR. TrLpES's rKRoRArroS.
To the people who have believe, elected me Pres-
dent OF the United states. to the four and onequarer
millions OF citizens who gave me their suiirages
orable sacrifice. but not surrender of one
jot title OF my Of right my personal self
respect. whatever the disappointment to those who
voted for me- whatever the public consequences of
suffering from subvcrsion of the electoral system,
by which alone true sclfgovernment can be carried
on; by whatever casuistry different course might
be advocated defended was resolved that IL there
to be I'm auction of the Chief Magis-
tracy OF my country \ would not be among
the bidders. tApplause) i was determined in such
an event or apprehehsiPn OF such am event, that
would meet such degraded condition Of public
affairs. not by sharing in 1t in any degree. not by
acquiescence, not by toleratioD, but by an un-
qualified, perpetual protest. appealing to the people
to reassert, reestablish their great rights, the
greatest their rights the right without which all
others were worhless--thcr right TO elective self
government.
THE CROSS EXAMINATION.
General Hunton Ito the republican mcmbers)-
Gentlemen. you can ask Governor Tilden any ques-
tons you please.
Messrs. Reed 4 Hiscock.
Mr.. Reed quite respectfully)-Governor Tilden.
who your private secretary at the time of these
transactions? A. George W. Smith.