The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1879-07-25

VentlOn mas any right or authority to inter-
fere with the debt question, as II Isl In my
compromise with the State creditors
w. T.. LOAN,
Delegate Fifteenth Ward, Parish Orleans
Mr.. President, In voting on the State debt
on the first vote | voted In the affirmative,
and being fully convinced at or that it did not
give satisfaction to the people OF my ward,
and a. ! think Ii should be my duty to carry
WEBSTER LONG,
Eighth Ward New Orleans.
Reasons Of Messrs. McGloin and others:
The undersigned vote against the ordinance
relative to the State debt, tnasmueh as they
cannot aid In recognizing the face of that
Illegal.
called to settle this question (ln view Of the
determination to submit the ordinance, to the
people) we would have abided the result.
But when, in O meeting, styled 9 caucus
gentlemen declare that they reserve the
privilege Of repudiating the result, unless It
ID ii accordance with their Views. and this
privilege Ia conceded to them, such q meeting
ceases tn be q caucus. The rule governing
caucus meetings Ia that all parties partici-
pating In the discussions, or voting, are bound
by the result.
Having refused to participate III the So
called caucus when 1t declined to enforce cau-
Gus rules, we feel ourselves free to vote upon
this question as we deem best
- g FRANK MeGLO1N,
THOs. T. LAND,
CHAS. BYRNE.
n. Il, LUCK EFT,
w. A. BIENVENU.
desire to record my vote, NO" against
the adoption Of article ., concerning the State
debt. for the reason that consider tho appro-
priation of the interest now In the treasury to
the credit OF the interest fund as unjust. 1t be-
ing the property OF the bondholders, which
should not be touched; and the remittlng OF
the coupon due January !, 1890. as repudia..
ton OF 9 just claim OF the bonded creditor OF
the State. w. A. BELL.
] concur In the above.
FERD. MARKS.
vote "No" on this ordinance, because do
not think the people Of the State owe the debt
recognized by it. large portion Of this 30
called dent vas created py tha
consent, and for which no consideration has
ever been received. Honor and manhood
alike require that 1t should never be recog
nized, either directly or Indirectly, rs q valid
OF binding obligation upon the people. The
fact that the ordinance Is referred to o sepa-
rate vote Of the people for ratification or re-
lection la not sufficient reason to vote for 1t.
The people have the undoubted right to con-
slider the entire subject and not q part Of It.
The Convention should not restrict them In
ferred by tia ordinance are given to the
bondholder. The people have no opportunity
to determine whether they regard the debt as
valid % not. But one proposition is TO DO
submitted to them, and that recognizes the
validity of the entire debt. 1t that IL voted
down It leaves the question where 1t Is at the
present time. Believing that large portion
Of the debt is fraudulent, which is not denied,
and that tho people should have an oppor-
tunity to pass upon that branch Of the ques-
ton, am constrained to oppose the ordl-
nance. THOMAS u. CAREY,
Delegate Eleventh Ward, New Orleans,
/ vote t'Yes,' not that recognize thereby
In any manner the validity 81 tie debt OF ID
tory settlement of 1t, for, on the contrary, l
bellows that fully one-half of said debt IL
either fraudulent illegal or nnconstttutional,
and In ORDER 20 ellmlnate the illegal poTtlon "
ought to be scaled TO hfty cents on the DOL
iar. and nave favored proposlu ca, supln,I-
along with the present one, Tor IT Is my firm
belief that the people ought 20 nave the rlght
10 the ALTERNATIVE propositlon 90 Io now
much they are Wlillng 70 recognize anu pay,
ana nos now te M ing pvantnn ha ~ iws
FUSED 20 allow sucn an oEulIianee 70 pe su1,,
mitted, reluctantly consent 70 vote Yes
on the present one, ana only 90 so because
me heople can, tney see ptoper, te1ecI y,
s,,'.t ,y reuorve NV ,,ht ~
nnnnsn the ratitication II the ordinance II IN
ulposo o'io ~ % !. -. w. ~ - IL, - A
Il. W. OGDEN.
Mr. Ienlr,na of Dasoto voted eyes /" ON the
o,,astion If tho State deht for tha following
m ,nasnns. q Tirst. oRecause # could not he
otherwise settled in the Convention. and
sannnH he helieves, II will tend to harmonize
tha Democratic marty. and thereby enable the
convention to complete its work Of framing
inaorsa this settlsment of the question. and
reserves reserves the right to vote against it at any
do go o'-' o'o'>' - '''.''> r>Nf,NN ~
denv the validity OF the so-caled debt, or
tho mosal ar leuaI obligation of the peopIe to
Nav #
i''' =. REASONS or MIR. VANCE.
~ ~ sd,ua,ao g.. ,aoa,,,aa ~
deny that me ordinance mas ,eceivea veg gre ,as
ore r. to preseye The unity and
OF the Democratlc parry, any LOT Gne , lnrsns .,
reasoa tl FAM oat tba - Thus
separaen ron ene eosIsue,U, 1nn a potaay,
ing uliierence OF OPINION upon Ine lues s.sn
OF Ine otate ueos trpn e,ua ias orb dasna
cation 81 y consClIuIlon Wnlon, oulei = Icy,
tive Ill SOlne IeSpeCtS, lS laGotnpdAapAy Supo