The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1879-04-01
DR.. TALMAGE STRIKES BACK
,UIRGE IGITNST DR. T.1N DYKE
MIR LNCITKD THE PRESBIIERY.

rA. Letter that nr. Van Dyke said wns
Painted md Poisoned Lance Aimed at the
centre or hIs neart-But Dr. Taimaae
So. lint the Letter Game straight from
nj. ovn Hcnrt-The Presbytery Order. the
Letter to bo Returned TO Dr. TnlmaEe.
Tho sixth day Of the trial of DR.. Talmagc,
D., the Brooklyn Presbytery. on charges OF ialse-
t,,l and deceit, was opened at 1901 i. NJ. yes
,.rlav by the Rev. DIR. Ludlow. who prayed
,bat nil the purposes OF the brethren might bo
morn Kindly. The usual concomitants OF
DrooElyn church trials began yesterday to ap-
near. Flowers in abundance were given to both
sides. rustic vase OF japan and calla lilies
aaA red and white roses. labelled For Mr..
Crosby sat on the table Of the counsel for the
.,,o.eeuiion and basket OF ten and Marshal
Nv roses trimmed with smilaN. rested in front
ofthe Rev. Dr. TAlmage who picked out "A fine
rose and pressed 1t against his lips. The roll
having been called and the minutes read. DR..
spear. DR.. Talmage's venerable senior counsel.
arose and said solemnly: hold in my hand
n personal communication which DR.. Talmago
desires TO make To- the Preebytery. and. as his
counsel will read it, Then he read;
he Pra'fi..e H' Hfsahpt
Tie undcr.-tcd iins now ON ttla upon the ehargc of
pnon II ihe Pre.h,er, 60 the TACT that the Rev Dr
g tie Jude, 90 tbs case when discussing motion
waig hs & n ;sa ' p % isr,aS SS,.. 1 "5 1T
receive u- evidence certain alleged u,rviews between
,,nd neyerth-le.. re.d such interviews outsde and
let hem haye lh,r due weight Win him whenInakius
6trsisned h.tened to I'll, declarauon with amaze.
mert and he herewith solennly and earnestly
G. IN ains of tie manifest inu.ce % him involved in
iic superstition that any Presbyter should Ut IN nna
OF the court that he would under any possible
mind ocT than the evidence adduccd ana accepted on
ts TRIAL H. appeals 10 tile Frcshytcry in the name of
ss.in.i snv such judement MI. he ny believes is
ore t4An eS sns ,nl.-m',n.H m en- "a morn. % sH,
who has thus publicly declared that whether certain
ie would ncverihclc.s read them and give th,m their
due weight with his own mind The Boos o Discipline
aud this can be bad only by ba,tus the anal udsmcnt eN
- w M t,I y unn. i,c m I'm IA, ,
Court Of Jesus christ and now IN, okes In his behalf t
g'een9n TO Ihi.l, a. ne arty ON irial ie hcl hin
90 usuce 70 his own rights and interests as involved Id
is triai DO owcfwtse he declaration to which the un
N-nei hAs referred las lustl called ciiucisu from
a. iaoe irsss E ana ne nov impores me frrslyery ''
d. VIII TAl~Acr
Dr. Van Dyke was not in his sent when the
reading Of this communication was begun. bu
lie entered In a few minutes and moved softly
M the middle aisle as the reading was gone on
with. He was not aware OF the purport Of the
document until he was In the front seat. Then
the Rev Archibald McCullagh whispered an ex.
pisnation Of II to him. The audience listened
70 the reading in deep silence
Mr. Crosby said that there was nothing con-
trary 10 equity. law. or justice in what DR.. Van
Dyke had said. and that the protest Of the ac-
cused pastor was wholly out Of place. There
never WAS any proposal to introduce the in
teryiews as containing evidence. but simply to
show the circumstances surrounding tho act
complained o.
At DR.. Van Dykes request the first part OF the
letter Of Dr. Tamage was reread. At the
words ' he would. nevertheless. read such in
terviews outside. and let them have their due
weight with him when making up his de-
cision ne member Of this court" DR.. Van
solemnly declare that never said any such
thing" Exclamatlons Of Ahp1 Oh. will
prove IT, said DR.. Van DYKE.
DR.. Van DyAe then added that what he did
say Was that when DR.. Tamage came on the
stand he should question the latter about those
interviews. II DR.. Ialma2e said that they were
not true, he would believe him. II DR.. Tai
mage did not choose to answer u question about
them on the ground that II might tend to crimi-
nate himself. then he would read the inter
views, whether the Presbytery admitted them
or not; or II DR.. Talmage said that the inter;
views were true. and the Presbytery still ruled
them out. he would read them TO inform him
self Of the circumstances surrounding the acts
alleged. H. never said that he would let the
interviews influence his hnAl judgment on the
case. " Go on BE- concluded. Take wha
course you please. Exclude me from exercisinl
my functions as a Pres6yter II you please
Adopt the advice ~ the counsel for the accused
II you wish TO; but now that the matter hal
been brought up mean 70 see II settled,
The Rev. DR.. Spear said that DR.. Talmaget
counsel had cOncurred in the pauer, and h
uided. ITO my hearing Or. Van Dyke sal,
distinctly the thing alleged in this statement
aud can prove II by five hundred witnesses
This paper has been drawn by the counsel o
ihe accused and they did 30 because 1t seemed
DR.. Van Dyke said that the counsel for DR.
Talmage had no right. under the guise OF
paper purporting TO be n protest 70 take an
q'ton which would inJure member OF thi
DR.. Sp-ar-we design. sir. only to vindicat
The sirnographic report OF Dr. Van Dyke
speech, In which the words complained OF wer
alleged TO have been used. was called for. Whel
the stenographer found his notes. he turned 4
the PrrSbyt.ry and read In distinct tone. IN
lrst Of Dr. Van Dykes speech. until he came 4
these words: have not read this alleged re
port Of an Interview with Dr. Talmage. d
not know what II contains; but tell you. slr
that u you do not admit H. will read II outside
ana let i have full weight upon my mind II
Judging OF this case"
There was an outburst OF applause rs tn
reading Of this sentence was finished. Dr. Tai
mage seemed 10 struggle successfully with
smile, and he kept his eyes nNed on Dr. Val
Dyke The greatest excitement prevailed IL
me room. In the back part OF the house mel
and women jumped upon the seats and stoo
up while nearly all OF the occupants Of the gal
lery arose o. their feet. DR.. Van Dykes cheek
flushed a little. and he coughed slightly. Att,
the mingled applause ana hisses had uDslded
he demauded Tie reading Of the sentence in tn
letter Of DR.. THlmuge. which contained the ac
cusatOn against him. number Of Presbyter
Insisted that the stenogrHpher should fnis
reading DR.. Van Dykes speech. DR., Van Dyk
faced his brethren and shouted: | insist upO
my rights. | demand that the two expression
shall hr read togr,her."
Or. Spear read from DR.. Talmages letter a
follows:
That the Rev. Dr. Van Dyke whois a member OF m
body aud hence one Of NE judges In tl,i, case whe
discussing motion which had been offered by him iii
On Thursday uf last week publicly declare that ~ IA
fresUNery refused 20 receive evidence certain aege
interviews between the undcr~isncd aud certain new
terNiews outside and let them have their due W. gl
with him. when making W lis decision a member
tins court
DR.. Spear added that the last expression VIII
generic term. and that the stenogralhe
minutes Afforded a clear and definite corrobora
lln Of what DR.. Tanage complains Of.
Dr. Van Dyke said there had been no propOsi
% receive the interviews IA evidence. The
were only 10 be taken 10 show the circuu
s4uces under which the accused brother acte,
Nore0ver is my judgment Of this case, adde
pr. Wan Dyke, " To he my decision Of this cHse
LIQUID laughirr.l II Is easy 10 laugh. | don
refer 10 the laughter of the audience. | refer
the laughter inside OF the Prrsbytcry."
DR.. Van Dyke then Indignantly denOunce
me paper as a dies ign 10 impeacn his intcgrit
iis one OF the judges He again explained hi
ueaign in making the ayerment and said II wa
pot nm lntimati0n that he was going 10 allow
10 nrHr upon his ilnal vote
Dir. Crosby sald that 10 his mind DR.. Va
Dyke'S position was hs clear as day; Laugh