The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1879-06-11
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Ayes.
Q--Was what You did superinduced by the
love ofjustice, truth, patriotism or sugar?
Al never was threatened, and the parties
themselves know 1t, because they had again
and again offered me bribes, and refused
them.
Q--Who were the parties?
Al decline to say.
Mr.. Hill-You must answer
A.-Mr. Dronett told me that III recorded
my vote for Spofford could get what wanted
In money. answered could not. "Win you
moi" he asked, "do It as favor for me? n said
mo, can not, because 1t would not be con-
sistent to vote for two men for the same Office
This was in the Nichols Legislature.
Senator Kellogg interrogated the witness,
who said he was "a years of age, a white man
and was descended from an old French family
He called at the senator's room, on his arrival
In Washington, and merely shook hands with
him, and did not remain 10 minutes. The
senator did not talk about the case, and said
to the witness, "I doubt whet ether you should
have come here now, but after you testify
should be glad to see you" The witness said
he saw Elder for the first time in New Orleans
on the ID of May. Elder said he was from
Washington getting up testimony for Spofford.
Elder had a room on Custom House street
The first Of these affidavits was given to FL
Ger because Elder did not previously believe
the witness was for Spoford. By this means
the witness was posted as to how the parties
were making up affidavits. Elder told
him Cavanac was getting up affidavits for
Spofford, to show there was no quorum in the
Packard Legislature that elected Kellogg.
Elder said he wanted only five to break the
quorum, and that that was the plan; and
further, If they could succeed in breaking the
quorum, Kellogg would be unseated before
this session was over. Murray said that by
testifyiDg for Spofford they could get all they
wanted, and Cavanac said that Spofford, w hen
seated, would divide his salary among those
who stuck to him. Laughter.l Cavanac
wanted an affidavit similar to the one witness
gave to Elder. The witness gave the names of
four men with whom to break the quorum,
including Murray and himself.
Q.-Was there not another man?
Ayes, but they did not have SO much con-
fidence in him. [Laughter.l They were de-
pending on the fact that Thomas was not
there. Watson was to personate Thomas. The
witness didn't know whether or not Thomas
was present at the joint session of the Legisla-
ture, but thought he was.
Q--Do you know of others who made affida-
Wits like yours?
Alt is said that one was made by Brooks
l.
can't remember seeing him there, but the
record shows that he was.
Q.-An this is new to me. Now tell me why
you signed the affidavit.
Al signed 1t to show how easy 1t was to
get up afiidavits, knowing them to be untrue.
Q.-You wanted to find out all the facts in the
! case and to learn all about 1t?
A.-That's it exactly.
Q.-Have you not been a consistent Repub-
| lican, and whenever you found point against
| Republican you acted like detective and
worked 1t out?
Ayes.
Q--And whenever you saw scheme on
| tom oft?
| der's confidence, and I went to Cavanac's
| Office to get the facts. I was approached on
| the cars while coming here, and was tod that
| by supporting Spofford would be taken care
| of.
| to you, and by whom?
divide his pay.
| ness he said he was told that 81, 800 would be
| given for going over to the Nichols Legisla-
| ture, but he never received the money.
Q--Who said that?
A.-Dronett, who is Democrat.
The examination Of the witness here ended.
Mr.. Hill said the witness came here on false
| testimony, and therefore he didn't want his
fees to be paid until the question could be set
i tied by the committee.
Adjourned until the 10th.