The New York herald., 1879-09-23
FREIGHT DETERMINATIONS.
NEW YORK STATE SHIPPERS CHARGED HEAVIER
RATES ON WHEAT AND CATTLE THAN WESTERN
SHIPPERS PAY

NEW YORK STATE SHIPPERS CHARGED HEAVIER
RATES ON WHEAT AND CATTLE THAN WESTERN
SHIPPERS PAY
ROCHESTER,. N. Y. Sept. %, 1879.
The subcommittee OF the special Assembly Rail-
road Committee appointed to continue the investi-
CATION into railroad management at Rochester, COM
posed of Messrs. Baker. Low. and Wadsworth, met
at the court house at ten A. NJ. Judge Shipman was
present for the Erie. Samuel Goodman. Assistant
General Freight Agent of the New York Central
road. was also present Mr.. Sterne conducted the
examination.
II. II. Goff, of Ogden. N T., was sworn:-I am Q
farmer; own about seventy acres it cost 500 per
it costs raise produce upon farms here
than on Western farms: pay the same actual rates
from here to New York paid by Western
farmers the rate wheat is nine cents per bIshel
fifteen cents per hundred for the past ten years
we have had special rates at times. usually from
May to November; get them by writing to
Goodman; when we did not get them it was
because the road had so much through traffic !;
have changed the nature OF my farming; grow q
style Of produce that is not raised in the West viz.
fruit beans, &C.; I raise about twenty to
twenty-five bushels Of wheat per acre; don't raise
spring wheat. also deal in produces; have been
refused special rates when other dealers had
New York Central Railroad; correspondents
have written to and sald that if should ship
to them they would get rebate and remit to us.
Cross-examined by Judge Shipman--My land cost
me 500 per acre. don't want to fix price it
here; If you will come up will sell it to you; ;
Loomis Co.. dealers in apples and potatoes. have
had special rates when could not get them; have
had special rates over the New York Central Rail-
way: want it understood that have no reason to
complain Of the New York Central Railway; have
suffered because unable to get special rates; /;
the amount of wheat raised in Monroe county
is about twenty bushels per acre; paid nine cents
a bushel, or fifteen cents o hundred in the past
three weeks I paid on the canal last week
fourteen cents hundred; ship boat
load Of wheat to New York in about the same time
the railroad can can only get one or two cars at
q time; have had hard work to get cars; the first
special rate that had from Buffalo to Holley;
have had them for the past twenty years; five
years ago the Erie road gave rebate representing
my carriage from Spencerport to Rochester, and
would get the special rate from Rochester; special
rates about two three cents less per 100
pounds than the regular rates.
INJURED SPECIAL RATES
Henry j. Willard sworn:-I reside ut Geneseo, N.
Y. am farmer also a produce and coal dealer;
have been farmer tor the past twenty-four years:
the rates from Genesoo to New York from $50 to
$50 per more than from Chicago to New York;
this special rate business has nearly ruined us
have done business at loss for the last five
ship about 600 head of cattle yearly raise about
20 bushels of wheat per pay Is cents per
grain from Geneseo to New York; paid II cents
last year; have never had special rate; the sched
ule rate Is about $50 per car from Geneseo to New
York; have paid $3.50 per car from Chicago to New
York.
Cross-examined by Judge Shipman-The rate from
Chicago TO Buffalo is $685. from Geneseo to Buffalo,
SIS; from Buffalo to New York. $50; we ship about
one Thousand eight hundred head Of cattle year;
there about six thousand head year shipped
from Geneseo; in 1875 paid $50 to $50 per car; in
1876, $50 to S65; in 1877, $55; IN 1878, $50
William NJ. Hunt sworn-I reside at Waterloo, N.
Y; am not engaged in any business ut the present
time; have been cattle dealer for the past ten
years; have paid $50 per to Albany; have had
special rate from Buffalo to Waterloo of $25 per car
the regular being s27; know that other parties
have paid s37 when was paying $25; know of the
rate being $40 per car from Chicago to New York;
this special rate system has ruined my business.
Q. Are there any special instances where you
suffered from determinations that have been prac-
ticed upon you? A. Yes; went to Albany to
at what rates could ship cattle back; the agent
told me il they were Western cattle they would ship
them back at $50 per car; think 1t a very
unjust Discrimination the only reason he gave me
that they favored Western cattle going to New
York; Ithink 81 per State cattle; that was
all the satisfaction got out of it, and therefore
did not ship back to Albany. as made up my mind
that would not suffer any such discrimination rs
that; had some correspondence with Goodman
about determinations; where there was a competing
point they used me pretty WELL but where there
not could not do as the rest did
The committee took recess until two P. M.
The committee assembled after recess at half-past
two P. NJ. Mr. Hunts examination was resumed.
when he stated that business has declined and has
ceased to be profitable
FARM LANDS DECLINING IN VALUE.
George 4. Harmon sworn:-I reside in Church
ville sm engaged in the milling produce and coal
business; I have experienced freight discrin-
nations; 1 have experienced more falling off
in business during recent recent years; ! usually
rates hour have been reduced; l have
paid as high Us nine shillings on barrel found
out not long ago that special could be made;
applied to Goodman; the first special rates got
from Mr.. Clark from Buffalo to Churchville; it
was given every time applied; in regard to my
special rates from Churchville to New York. they
were limited; special rates grain diff
fcred from two to four cents q hundred
from regular rates; rates quoted now only
how determinations against Churchville. in favor
of Buffalo. freight rates affected farming; Church
Vile is about fftyfve miles from Buffalo; farming
lands vodepreciated twcntyfv per within the
last two three years. To Mr.. farm
ing lands have deprecated twenty-five per cent; the
price OF cloth. shoes, sugar. &C.. have gone down
twenty-five per cent; think the prices Of -four.
grain, &C.. have gone down also; the price OF farm
ing land deprecated about much in proportion
as the paper dollar has been approximatng in value
to gold make from 5000 to 10000 barrels of -four
year; buy most OF my grain in this vicinity; buy
winter wheat from the West at Buffalo.
CHARGE FOR FEEDING sHEEP
George Burt was sworn. and testified II reside at
ninety-fve acres of lard; raise all kinds of grain.
corn, potatoes. fruit. &C.; raise about twenty
81 sss er no rate to Now
$40 per higher than from Buffalo and much
higher than from Chicago; on that account have
to sell lower price; sheep s the principal stock
l deal in: ship about seventy-fve loads year;
the sheep loso about ten pounds Of flesh in going;
do not pay yardage; pay for hay. which amounts
to the same thing; pay $50 per ton for hay
and l consider that charge exorbitant;
ship now to the Union Stock Yard Company
of New York; the Erie road would not furnish
yardage; agreed to build some yards in our neigh
borhood, but have not yet done so have used yards
al Batavia-lumber yards; my farm is adapted to
raising grain; have noticed that about fifty families
from our section have emigrated to Kansas; If my
sheep were considered to be Western sheep when
they shipped l could get s5 taken Off
each from Albany to Now York; IL
1 bought Western sheep and kept them
on my farm for time aud then
shipped them they charged State sheep and
l would get the SIS of did business eight years
before knew there special rates got rate OF
twenty-three cents to Batavia grain; S63 from
my place to New York, as against $40 from Buffalo
direct; the rate from Chicago to New York l found
was always $50; l market my -four at Troy and
New York city the rate on hour for the last three