, 1879-02-04
/. II. WII.tfEnEf.1x.


WAS next sworn, uni questioned by Col. Coop
Ct. lie testified tint he was a creditor OF tic
Oermania insurance Company, anti received
money from Florshtin, IN addition to tic rce,.-
lar div1aeuds OH his claim, but whether It cnnic
from, 1tcsinE or not ho couldn't *aY. lie got
The money about tho 20th OF April, 1874. Ilis
claim amounted to between $14o,0O0 and Si5o,-
GU.
In accorttancc with whit arrangement,
agreement, or understanding did you receive
the money which Flofshe!m natl you'll"
In consideration Of not interfering with tic
sale Of certain asset belonging to the Ger
nanjs,"
"What VAS that asacti''
IA. T.. 1lcstrR's notes for sl5, COO, secured by
10 shnscs Of Staats-Zsfung stock.''
"Wflcn did yuu make tho arrangementi'
II think 1t Was between the 10th au,l Goth;
couldn't stats exactly. 1t was madc At my
Office"
"Did Florrhe!m undertake to pay sou the
money!"
"1lo promised to paT III; Otherwise should
not have kept silent. had his word that l
should reeetva about 500; not over: 1t was
less. The smount was arrived at By calculating
that would receive onc-ha!f OF per cent II
lles!ng paid his indebtedness in full, The
Arrangement was made about d week before
got the money. received Flosshclm'A checks
"Wesc you at the crcllltors' meeting held
April a11''
"lwas at the last meeting, but don't rccol-
lcct tic date. l remember m inquiry being
male about this asset, but not q nottou to
direct tho Assignee TO proceed to have tho sale
set ussdc. The Assignee made IN explanation,
abt',,t 1t. lie said l,c had an order from tl.e
Court to dispose Of the stock, and read The bids
that there was ~ good deal Of dIssat'sfaction
expresscd,' but remember ono creditor
,sla 1si'!. he NV wa' ,a,! aathortzea e.; to pAy 81,
Ssx's Sesn .o o t r ,:a ' IL TINT t.Hsk Kna ssa s
Mr.. Vockc, but not with reference ~ the ar
rangemcnt. went to hts ostiee After Florsl,cim
| notified n,c,-tasat was the first knew tint tie
(FlorsIoIm) told mo tlas it was liable to bo
sold low, and We pad to DO sotncth'ng to pro-
tcct our interests"
"Why didn't you 60 to Judge Blodgett to
avail, cant say why Didn't"
"Mhs there any reason why you didn't 20 to
II thought could protect my interest In tho
him. / notified Mr. Woke that should make d
respectable bid. antl not to close the sale until
had ny & nha n. ! could not tel! what day tnt
Focke Ut tiat time, but got nnc, | think.
previous to the making of tile urrangencn. With
I Flo.shclM. ] can't remember exactly ,F!et!itr
/ ] rrots tny letter IN rcplv before or after thu
arrangement, hut atn quite surv II wns after"
| "Was 1t IN consideration Ut tic arrangement
| you had ma1e with Florsllclm thut you wrote
the !ssscr a"h made the bill''
"Ycs, Mic Of the considerations OF tho ur-
s5,o0."
l. DID 5ou tell Nc. Vockc Of the amount you
would give fos tls siosk when you gayc him
| notIye Of the respectable ht1H'
II don't th!uk I told HIN The cxact amount
should bid, because hatIu't It settled a. tlat
tltae.r
"p!a " yea % indicate an} r., an,oaotr' !, ''a
| Mr. Culpcrson-Dfd forke know that you had
some agreement or understanding with IIcslnv
| Or lcsing's representative by which you were to
| receive thIs additional sunni
~ wouldn't want to Hwcar that he did,
'"Yoa wouldn't want to sredr to 'sa''
1 mo, sir"
"ifave you anv knowledge On that subject,
| whether he did Or noti'
~ t!ou't know tl.at he knew OF The arrange
mcnt between glorshean ntul tnvsctt. lad no
conference witt! auy person nf persons Gu the
subject hut NJ. FlosrhcIm. atteudcl uone Of
| tllpHe meetings.
"You made bid Of s4,5oor'
Ibid you consider TINT respectable bid for
| sir.'' '''A" o'N wv
"The reason why was this Intervening agrcs-
ment !, WIN lleslng's reprcaeutat!ycs'
"Dil yocko ever como to you IL inquire wbr
Joy H. .a IL sians'a NJ; your nnd IN tho subjestp
"lll you meet him aftcswardsr'
.Mt. Knott-Dh! Florshel,n tell rou snyth.uc
about the arrangement butween himself ulM
/ <3,UDi
'siIo aid not tell mo tho particulars Of auv
arrangement. 1io safd he wa In fair way Il,
get what wo woud naturally get II VIZ .ltlu't In
tcsftre with the sale. tlon'I think he inttn,at-
e. tiat ~ si1e stosk ~ 70 10 so!d for not more
| suLtln1 and arranging about Tho matter"
On cross.eaamination by Mr.. Cloudy, witness
stated .,'at he haI haa no interview with lles!hg
to hin IN h!s HE. Vacks did not ctllrasor to
get him IL hid when le saw him 1t bis {Vockp's)
Office llc haa ysry little conversation with lin.
its would have b! At least e15 ooo for the stock
vcs,tnest independently uf ilr face that hc was
creditor OF ahe tacsnahla hu could mol say what
hs wona t hayu rsil t1r IT. a. o Didn't 9ks ~
| t!e stock frotu what i'tstsch told Inn.
Witness called on rictscl, who. stated
tbs dIs,ends the stick mud paid
FROM. from TINE ID n!s e t!mc. fotshe!n d!a not
hi that tho Jaiy ttlfitcnl ~as 10 be suspc1,ded,
",h ts ,n.oney applied to Eayn the n,ot'eags
! HnttotENAE4s. HNhcA8 Thought l-LGtkHn l0lu
htn tlIr amount Of tie Ietts, hit 10 rou]dn't
sccolleet what II Was. lle was mot told uf auy
| arrangement to which Judge HIolrctt was
purity. lle dIln't ihIslk l,o would hare b,,ght
liso stusk ~ an Investment. lie couldn't
say whit ~ market value WA ut tho
10 had, he would hare pala s5,OW
and a%a te Judge ssest Via, s 10 haa aaGs isarus II
BECAUSE he thought the shortest anl qui-kc.t
WY tar l!ai - yet what wxa coming 10 tina nus
thu way hc aduptcd. l2o was looking out for
No. !. lle had bren blamed at the meetings
Tor wanting dividends .laieree.! BY creditors who
tasdnt uhesssasN! the matter, aud who Thought
liz n,adr obteclions tor lllt putt,osu Ut buying
up tle cla!Ins; 70 lle na.!o up his mind that he
would look after Ills own Interests. Ilu was not
wescns at the Hsre.lne IN the International
Bank, and had neTcr hrard Ut II until le read
about It IN Alr. Hesing's evidence.
"ls II not true, theu, that you heard Mr. lies
| lug make lltat ktAteInentf"
| Sir. CoopeE-Naft moment! Hare yuu
tGuu.,yj Nr. ifrslnG's correct st.temcnti WAat
may hare bcen given In tbs newspapers Il
anGthtr thing.
| Mr. fiutt3t-Wa ftayc nor followed tcnaf rufea