New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1879-02-07
we're passing to you and from you, AT No. u

Odd YOU have any other business at that time eS-
cept attending TO these matters A.-Not at that time
had no regular business had some matters of my
own which was looking after
Q.-Was your time exclusively devoted to thisl A.
Mainly.
Q.--You were pretty husyi Al was.
Q.-whore did you spend most Of your leisure hours
Alt No. 80 Liberty-st, and the Everett House.
Q-Pror 10 this political engagement what was your
businessl A-FOr tho two years previous to that
had been Albany Governors military secretary
Q.-Pror to thar time what had been yolr business
You read on editorial OF The World recently referring 10
some business OF yours, suppose Ayes. sir 1t
was no. an editorial, think. ..-.-.
some facts ia It. They could not help stumbling upon
some facts.
Q-Are you man Of PROPERTY A-Ihave not a large
Q-Hay" You eyer held Yourself ONT as man OF large
to either OF the transactions spoken of IN the
Q.-Dd sou see Mr.. smith Weed before lie went down
tO South Carolina Al AID.
| 0-Iay.n't You any recollection about it I Al was
at the Everett House and az No. 90 Lbrty-St and 1t
dav before he went
Q-Wherei Al can't tell. At one or the other OF
Q-Hov long discourse did you have with HINT
90 the best OF your recollection Al can't say
how long. II was not long.
Odd you have any conversation with him. A
Q.-Now viii you kindly answer ne whether you lad
any conversation with Mr.. Wecdt Al did
Der TIE details IN.
OF don want the details give us the substance ~
III A.-As said before, It was short conversation
Of the that asked HIM TO 20 10 south Car
Q-Then all you can give Of the conversation IS that
you asked him TO 20 South Carolina Ayes, sir
0'-Was that the substance of the whole Of it, A
There might have been other things said. don't Ie-
QCan you Teeolect any other things that were saldl
WEEDS CIPHER ARMAMENT.
O-Kagu't there something said about a CIDhCr1 y.
Yes.
! Q-Why didn't you tell us about thati A-That is
! ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS he had cipher
Q-Then there was q conversation about a cipher ID
! addition 10 going therel A.-Yes, sir.
Q-Is that all the convcrsltionI A-Thlt is all ire
member
Q-Ddn't you tax with him about whom the cipher
should be sent 70 A-That involved in giving the
| cipher itself
Q.-What else was involved in the cpheri Al
don't know.
Q-Can you gge IL. any other particulars about the
conversation that was involved in It Al don't recol-
! ect ANYTHING.
! Q-You had a transpos.ion cipher already A-Ycs,
Q-And a substitution cipher inside of hiatt A.-Ycs,
sir.
| Q.-Ard then in addition 10 that you took pains 20
have delivered Henry lIavcmeycr so that You TO-"
should not be got at A-The two first things you
speak Of were part OF one and the same thing.
o. have described it fairly A.-Ihe OBJECT OF any
o"rnen Wnen Won took two wavs Of securing It you
took two ways, didn't youi Al don't see qnte the
Q-Yoa 4ad aaino;tlo9 cipher and eaostaon
you rui H. We had cipher maze NJ id lH,' Wy,
Gin addition T. tLs double pier y"H CAUSED ~ 10
ABOUT Do! Al did nave H. delivered there.
Q.-Gau then intended to correspond with NJ. Weed
som. matter that you wanted 10 keep very secret,
olt Won! An I'D 'I" secret man any OF ~" Il"'
THAI ve were cotIc,pOudn- about Win AI "t'""t
Q.-You wanted to correspond with him on something
you desired - keep very secret A-NO more So IMAM
Q-This you wanted to keep very s-crctl A.-No
more than any other. We wanted to keep 1T secret Oh
Q.-Why didn't you answer IL then without putting in
any Of the others Al want you 10 understand I"st
! Q-Waerc did you receive your first telegram from
him ia t4ia cpnrri A-We.l, should presume at the
Q.-WIot d.d Won say 10 him when you gave hun the
Q-Ycs, what LAM IA4e did you use Al don't re-
Olive the substance of the language used when
von gave hIn the cipher Al don't remember.
don't remember whether Lee asked for 1t or whether
ODD You have II on a sheet OF papcrl Al think
IL was Yes, sIc
DUBIOUS oEIGIN OF THE CIPHER.
ODD you take IT ont OF your pocket and give il TO
Iiu or ont o.; your dc>kl Al don't remember.
cont remember whether 10 was made on the occasion
with him or made beforehand, or how.
Odd Won have printed copies ofitl A-No. sir.
Q.-WnO got mp That cplcFi Al cannot tcu ycu
whether be dil or It'd.
Q.-VEcu did yoa get r. up! AT must have been
Cotton upius before he wcut-tlit day.
O-You leel cnt rely coifdcnt about that Al am
not certain oil Ny impression Is That IN Weed was
only There one dag.
go you must have Cotton It Up at that time A
Il & probable.
Q-lItya Won any doubts aho1t ~ At might De
rcdy beforehand, hut think u Wa gotten up That day
Q-Caunot you rrmcmhnrany of the particulars Wien
10 vas gotten upi sIatc the particulars of the COMPOST
uoUcl tls cirh,ri Who "as present and "ho helredt
O-ArvpoIy besides Yourself and Mt Weed when you
soj Uupi II nav" no idea; night have oe"u alone
with VT. Weed and somebody might nave Geeh r'c't"
Q.-You dld taat in a room wheiei Alt Vas prob
C-Nua say II was probably done therel Al tbink
On WIT room in the Everett Housei Al don't
| rofpu,er We had three or four ou the fret floor
Do Won rccoll,ct mat you and M weed got i upl
O-Yor don't recoiiect whether Won invented it YOUR
sci or with The assistance = Nh Weedl Al douot
Q-Blt Won say yon invented ID at the umc be was
starting. do you A.-inat D.. my impression.
Q.-Bati is nothing more than al impsessonl At
% nITc 9t mp n SsfGro mat m ti%c5 Hqg
49, said beforehand is 1ll that give yOu-tLat
!t Was gotten up that day.
I'll w5s cci,luly not gotten up before election!
Q.I9g .a'o 10 doubt Of that IN your own mind,haye
O-Ard consequently when your friend weed tcstifrs
thai Ac used ocioIc election, n he does q" So he s ui-
doul;,ly mistaken A-Incrc were cipAeIs before
q -Tne cipher am confirm YOUR attention tol \.
-fJa1t know wAc;ue. lie used II before crater
O-Di course il uot invented before election Do
nd ot use ~ Al told YOU my Impression was that
10 wa. cotton up the day before ne went.
Q-You certain u was not gotten M before the
election. DoA' ict u have any msundeis andu@ siH-
p., because 80. cash with Mr. Weed Al don't AHG"
That Ito. when "1n spoke u tE1i, was lur OH lhe
point az cay 10 Won tha' We had ciphers before tine
Q-Iu4t s. lot the point. am con6nin- mysel to
tis particular one. Al don't know whether he Used
Glow could he use it before it was manufactured