The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1879-02-27
FORTY,FlFTH CONGRESS.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
Washington, D, G., February

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The legislative appropriation bill was consider
ed in Committee Of the Whole, The point of OF
der made last night against the amendment offer
ed by Mr.. Herbert repeating the jurors test oatl
and regulating the mode of drawing and pay o
jurors, was overruled, Chairman Blackburn de
Gliding the amendment in order.
Several amendments we're r. jected.
The question then finally recurring on Mr.. Her
ber's amendment, 1t was agreed tO-yeas t27
nays 49,
The question then came up on Mr., sOuthard'
amendment repeating the section which author
ICES the appointment of Supervisors Of Election.
Mr. Hale rose to point of order that the amend
ment changed existing laws and was not in th
interest OF economy.
Mr. southard argued that the amendment wa
germane, and that 1t was in the direction Of econ
omy, because the cost Of these Supervisors in tht
election of1S76 was over 500 900, and the same IL
| 1873
The Chairman overruled the point Of order OF
the ground that the amendment was not onl!
germane but was directly in the interest Of econ
omy.
Mr.. southard then made an argument in advo
Cacy OF the amendment
He was then followed on the same .side by Mr.
Durham, who argued that all the machinery o
elections ought to be controlled by State govern
ments, not by federal government.
Mr.. Hale argued against the amendment.
The debate was continued pro and con by Mes
srs. Butler, Frye, Hooker, Lynde, Baker, Chalmers
Keifer, Garfield and others.
Mr. Chalmers said he was reminded by the two
speeches Of the gentlemen from Indiana (Hanns
and Baker, of the young preacher who took fol
his text, Peters wife'smother lay sick Of fever
Shouts on the Republican side, I'VE heard thai
before; 1t Is old ].
Mr.. Chalmers Whether you heard 1t or not you
must hear it again. 1.-THE time has come" said
the preacher when that old woman should Ger
tainly be dead" Mr., Chalmers went on to say
that as history was often found repeating itself &c
1t was now found that just as the nations Of Eu
rope Joined together to rescue the holy sepulchre
from the II fidel, the Democrats now joined hands
to rescue the Constitu ion from destruction at the
hands of the radical Republican party.
Mr.. Wood recited the history OF the laws which
were proposed to be repealed. They were bat q
portion Of series of laws passed in order to keep
the Southern States as stipendiares Of the Repub-
lican party. That had beeH intended for the South
but 1t was applied to the North. The gentleman
from Maine (Frye) ass stumed to speak for his party
when he said ne would resist by every means In
his power the repeal Of those laws He Wood
could not speak for his party, but he could speak
for one man when he said he did not care what
became Of the appropriation bills; he believed
that there was higher question than that OF ap'
propriahng money. He could stay in the House
as long as any gentleman, The Democrat.
ic party could resist as long as the Republican
party, and he would not consent 10 vote for dol
lar until this amendment should be engrafted up.
on the bill,
Mr., Garfield said he had not spoken on points Of
order because he did not regard the question as
one that was being considered deliberately. Or.
dinarily this was d4liberation but there were
called upon merely to register the edict Of party
caucus under orders to decide that the amend.
ment came in under the rule.
This remsrk caused an immediate explosion OF
anger on the Democratic side, and there were
calls to order and demand that the obnoxious
sentence be reduced to writing and read at the
Clerks desk, but the Chairman (Blackburn) ex-
pressed the wish that no point OF order should be
made but that he (Blackburn) should be per.
Mr. Garfield proceeded with his speech, exhib.
lting in its delivery much feeling and determina-
ton.
down on the floor, said Mr.. Chairman, If there
be any one who, In the heat Of discussion, have
been betrayed into improper action or improper
utteranees, submit that will not permit myself
TO lose sight If this Committee OF the Whole dur
ing the pendenGy OF the discussion Of this meas
ure must not engage In dispute as to It's merits.
do not conceive that 1t would be either proper or
lust for me to leave that chair to come down to
the floor to engage In wrangle or discussion
with any gentleman as TO the merits OF the meas
ure over whose deStinies l was welding more
than ordinary power. l have not come down
here for that purpose, nor do propose to address
myself to single feature Of this amendment l
have come to resi- Ond to what seems TO me could
have been uttered with but one purpose, and that
Is to force me from that place. TO repe not only an
indienity but to hurl back an attempted insult
Tapplauee on the DemocTatic sidel. Before pro.
ceed 10 say to the gentleman from Ohio (Gal feld)
what intend to say, intend TO read the note fur
nished 10 me by the official strenOgrapher OF the
House and If that be what the gentleman stands
upon then my answer Will be az emphatic and as
plain as Il will be short. The note Is, "Our House
to-day presided over by one who is under orders
10 decide that this comes under the rule" II the
gentleman from Ohio is content with that as cor
rect statement Of HIS language I, Of course, have
nothing left but to accept 1t.
Mr. GarAeld-That ia not the whole Of the sen,
tence.
Mr.. Blackburn-I am perfectly willing to have
the sentence completed, for do not desire to do
the gentleman an injustice.
Mr.. Garheld-I do not know what the whole
sentence will be found TO be in terms, but the
point which sought TO make and still make is
this that the action OF the body outside Of this
House seems to be binding on its members who
belong to the body. and Whist meant TO say was
that not only the House on that side but ts chair
man as we'll, were under 8 sort OF dufess because
Of the Acknowledged control OF the caucus. That
ls all that said and say 1t as believe II to be-
In no manner did intimate that the gentleman
Qdr, Blackburn had himself been ordered In any
special way to decide the question; butI referred
70 the fact that there was kind OF duress which
covered all the members on that side OF the House
Including the presiding officer Of the committee
who Was also as understand, himself chairman
Of the caucus. u' ""'
Mr. Blackburn-I ask the gentleman from Ohio
to state to this committee whether he did say or
whether he intended 10 say that the occupant of
the chair was under or had received even an ex.
preston Of opinion or purpose from the Demo.
cratic caucus as to how he was TO rule on any
question of Order2
Mr. Garfeld-l repeat only what have Just said
land which / stand by forever that my memory
was and Is that the whole party, including the
chairman, was under the moral duress Of caucus
action, which made this not deliberauYe body
to register the edicts ofa caucus.
Mr. Blaekburn-I do not see exactly how am
to get hold of toe utteTances OF the gentleman
from Ohio. hold what Ia furnished me by the
Official sten0grapher Of the House, 1t Is very ev.
ident land am glad to recognize the fact that
the gentleman. from Ohio does not propose TO
atand on that. Now, when submit 70 him the
question ~ TO whether he then intended or does
now propose 70 be undentood ~ telling thil COM
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