The New York herald., 1879-09-21
HANEUIL HALL DEMOCRACY.
Judge Abbott on the Butler
Conventions.
A TRANSPARENT PIECE OF FOLLY.
What the Regular Democracy Of Mas
sachusetts Will Do.
BOSTON. Sept. 20. 1879.


BOSTON. Sept. 20. 1879.
Judge Abbott, who was the standard bearer of tho
regular democracy last year and who still labors to
maintain the organization of that party in inter.
view to-day fully and forcibly repudiates the Con.
vention held at Worcester which nominated General
Butler and elected delegates to the National Con-
vention.
II Think said the Judge. answer to question.
"that the Convention that was held under Mr.. Tar
box's presidency, and which claimed to be dem-
ocratc the most transparent piece of folly that
has been lately heard of in politics. It was pre-
sumption upon the blindness and Willingness to
be deceived of the masses of the people that
do not believe will be successful. Why, it was
merely lot of skirmishers. led by Mr.. Tarbox. to
open the way for the real army and the real generals
and leaders who meet there the next day,
and who called themselves independents
nothing but dissatisfied and republicans. 1t is
most apparent to any one who doesn't wish to be
blinded-so plain that the who runs may
read-that there never anything in politics
cut and dried aud altogether prepared before
hand, where the mass Of the Convention had
nothing to do with what done-as
that Tarbox Convention. And the same thing
is true also of the other and called 'inde-
pendent Convention which followed it. Why, they
wouldn't even listen to any suggestion from Of
their own members-Mr. Riley-but they simply
shouted and stamped him down. 1t mani
testify mere cut-and-dred affair that people will
not be deceived by it, Its proceedings taken in con-
nection with those of the Convention next day,
shows plainly enough what the intention is-simply
to turn over the democratic party, bound hand and
foot to lot OF dissatisfied republicans Nothing
tolerated in the Tarbox Convention that had not
been agreed upon by the leaders of the other party
WHAT THE MASSES WILL DO.
''Will the democratic masses passively submit to
the programme laid out for them by Tarpox's Con-
vention? asked the reporter.
II don't believe. sir" said Mr.. Abbott. "for mo-
ment that the democrats of Massachusetts are pre-
pared, in anything like the numbers who last year
gave General Butler their votes to sanction what
took place at Worcester last Wednesday. Why. Tor
tho first time in the history OF the democratic party
that ever heard of. convention. pretending TO be
democratic, stood with bated breath before lot OF
dissatisfied republicans and were absolutely afraid
to raise single voice i'll favor of democratic princi-
pies and democratic measures, and declared to the
world that they deprecated saying anything upon
the great principles and measures OF their party,
upon which the country s being divided at the pres
ent time. Whether We have been in the majority or
the minority heretofore the democrats of Massachu-
setts have always had the courage to say anything
they believed. but at Worcester on Wednesday not
aword was said about the cardinal democratic con-
tentions, because it was feared it would take some
votes from the republican end OF the coalition"
LEGITIMAcY OF THE CONVENTION.
In reply to q question as to Mr. Tarboxs argument
in favor Of the Legitimacy Of the Convention. the
Judge said:--'I think the Convention. led as
skilfuly it could be by Mr. Tarbox. and attempt
was made really to make the world believe that tho
lions skin covered the real old democratic lion.
hut think it entirely lacked success. They will
find out by and by that people can distinguish be-
tween the lion and his skim Mr. Tarbox's eu-
phemism, by which he turns the Hat burglary and
stealing of tho hall by fraud and violence last fall into
.an irregularity of parliamentary law, as | think
he terms it. is remarkable. But don't think 1t will
deceive anybody. The result of the whole Conven-
ton A this The democrats who were parties it,
and who follow its lead, to be used mere tools
and instruments for the purpose OF putting into
ring headed by General Butler, ex-Colector Sim.
mons. Mr.. Usher Mr.. Baker. Mr.. Palmer and men Of
Mr. Abbott declared that he had NO faith in the
loud cry for reform set up by the two Butler con-
said Neither Of their platforms contains anything
practical as to what they actually propose to
do Thsy are full Of gttoTns
with the single exception that the Tar
box people say they opposed to the Civil
Butler is opposed to that law not The next days
convention OF self-styled independents which
Civil Damage law. and neither convention said any.
thing about biennial elections. very important
and instead Of telling the people what they propose
to do, they put them off with these empty generaiz-
ations that mean nothing"
THE NATIONAL DELEGATES.
On the question OF the national delegates Judge
Abbott said:-'I have not altered my opinion in
the least that subject and haven't the sig htest
doubt in the world that the only delegates recog.
nized at the National Convention will be those
who are chosen by representatives OF the demo-
cratic party in Massachusetts,, and not by o party
that convened simply for the purpose Of putting
one republican ring in place Of another"
considerable number of votes cast last year for the
Faneuil Hall ticket will this year 90 General
II believe. on the contrary" Mr.. Abbott replied.
"that all who voted for the Feneu Hall ticket last
will vote for it again this year, and great many
more believe that very large number OF demo-
Gratis who voted for General Butler last year will not
vote for him this year, for the reason. as have
said that they do not propose to be made the mere
tools and Instruments in the hands OF tho seeding
'.what do you think of tho republican ticket
no m m cd at WOrcester2'
'.Of course no democrat can be an expert upon
that subject. but. 30 fur as can see, think Mr..
Long will get as many votes as Mr.. Pierce could
have got. probably more. I suppose IL Mr.
Pierce had been nominated he would have
cisod on tho subject Of the Civil Damage
law and the License law, who very likely
may not vote for Mr.. Long. but think Mr.. Pierce
would have lost large number of very sincere and
ardent prohibitionists. who will go for Mr.. Long,
and therefore so far as can judge. the loss on Mr.
been quite as large. or larger than the loss on Mr..
Longs part will be-"
what is your opinion as to the probable result Of
'The whole question brings itselflsubstantisIly to
this:--How large following can these dissatisfied
republicans carry out with them from the republi-
can party? SO far as the whole question for
the people botweon tho Independents dissatisfied
pubcans and the regular republicans will be- whether
they shall put ring of republicans headed by Gen.
Butler. Mr. simmons. MIR. Usher, Mr.. Baker and the
rest in place OF the ring that has governed the party
lose say 10000 democratic votes that last year
cast for him. think tho republican candidate will
lose say 250 900 democratic votes that were last year
cast for him, and the whole question then remains
irg is what strength the dissatisfied republicans
have? On this question think 1t Is too early in the
campaign yet to form an opinion"
MEETING OF THE STATE CENTRAL CoMMrTTEE.
Boston, Sept. 20. 1879.
Tho Democratic State Central Committee held
another meeting this forenoon to which several
gentlemen not of its membership wcre
summoned. There general confer
cncc over the present condition of politics,
especial reference being made to tho Faneuil Hall
Convention of next month. Some of those present
urged that o straight nomination should be then
made, no matter what result that action may bring
about. Others anxious that u conservative
course should be pursued, and that nothing which
will assist in defeating Butlor should DO left undone
No decisive action was takcn that being loft to Q
future meeting