The New York herald., 1879-09-26
RAILROAD FRElGH7S.
Testimony Of New York Mer-
chants and Millers.
THEY STATE THEIR GRIEVANCES.
Making Determinations Against Them in
Favor Of Western Shippers
BUFFALO. n. y. Sept. 2S, 1879.

l. BUFFALO. n. T.. Sept. 25, 1879.
The subcommittee of the Legislative Railroad
Investigation Committee met this morning in the
United States Court Room. Messrs. Hepburn, Baker,
Low. wadsworth and Terry being present Judge
Shipmau. Mr.. Laning and Mr.. Gluck OF counsel,
and Mr.. Goodman were also present. There
was quite large attendance. Counsel Sterne
conducted the examination. Henry E. Boardman
was placed on the stand. He was one
of the witnesses that was to be examined
| at Rochester. He sworn and testified rs fol-
lows:-I live at Rochester; engaged in the mill
ing business was appointed member of q com.
mittee to interview Mr.. Clark. with view to SEQ
what arrangement could be made to obtain better
rates freight. or. il possible to obtain milling on
transit-that is. purchasing wheat at points in
the West through rates of freight to
| New York. stopping the car in Roch-
ester. naming its destination to New York
or other points. ana then shipping forward on the
same bill Of lading; the interview took place on
April 10. 1879; met Messrs. Clark and Rutter; Mr..
Bristol. of Rochester. went with me; we told him
lsr Clark THAT We were willing to pay for unload
ing and loading at Rochester think that can
best tell the result Of interview with Rutter and
Clark. of the New York Central and Hudson River
road, and Villas and Blanchard Of the New York.
Lake Erie and Western road, by reading tho report
that made to the Rochester Millers' Association
when we returned. which is as follows:-
| Meeting May 81, lS79.-Your committee would respect
fully report that IN accordanco with received
na ns pad
a s sso oa as ss.s
day, April 10. 1879, BY, whom we, Informed
could ss ssss BY s%sy sS v s
drawn our signatures from certain circular, dated
publicly wdfawS support the
the above retrlcons should be made by u.s. they
S sye s Of milling in
they declined to commit Themselves The details Of
length Our second interview with Messrs Villas and
i nG who snd Kr M
our relief and refused to y take amy action until they had
Railroad Company.
We suffer millers by freights being carried for
are about hundred runs OF stone in Rochester;
did not know that special rates We're given at
with Mcssrs Rutter and Clark.
Cross-examined by Mr.. Lan1ng-I have six runs of
stone in my mills we do jo6bing trade; have sent
ported about FIVE thousand barrels of -four to Lon
don. Liverpool and Glasgow; -four is known
under several brands: we are in competition with
hour manufacturers in the West; the Milling Asso-
citation and other business men signed the protest
| to the Legislature; what they wanted
! pro rata rate; the railroad declined to comply
| with our request unless we withdrew our appeal to
the Legislature: did accept the offer of the
New York Central road in relation to shipping
loads as an experiment., because they restricted us
to point OF purchase-Kansas City; we have been
advised that the railroad companies will give us the
proper transportation; heard OF it about two weeks
ago; during the season Of water navigation about
| year; this year We received moro by rail;
/ ufactured about twenty thousand barrels of Hour
| this year, compared to 10000 OF the previous
year, never bought any wheat in Chicago; last fall
We bought in Milwaukee; last summer bought
In Buffalo; pay Ave cents per cwt. from Rochester
| to Buffalo on grain.
BY Committeeman Baker-I manufacture $50 bar
rels per day on spring wheat and IT'S ON winter.
| To Judge shipman-we ship mostly by the New
| York Central road.
| per cwt. from Milwaukee to New York on -four
schedule rate; fifteen cents per cwt. on grain.
| MILLS BROKEN UP BY DISCRIMINATION.
have been miller at Buffalo and Lockport about
forty years; have twelve runs OF stone in Buffalo
full capacity they would produce about hundred
thousand barrels of -four year; there has been no
discrimination against MS for the past six months;
the nature of the discrimination that they car.
ried grain and -four cheaper from Chicago and Mil
Buffalo; we get better price for our bran
the otial Of the wheat-for feeding purposes.
against have broken up two mills in this city;
could have run our mills TO their full capacity
mill by by steam and one by water nearly all westerns ns
mills are run by water power; think property is
high Ugh out West ,h as here pay I the schedule rae
! lately; asked for one. but was refused; have had
one or Two; my special rate from September. 1878.
/ to May, 1872 five cents OF per barrel to New
| York; that was given because said to Goodman
we would have to shut up, as we could not compete
4 IL
May, because the rates fell from thirty fifteen
cents they raised to twenty aud twentyfour cents.
To Mr. Laning-Manufac tured in our Buffalo mill
scvcnty-hv thousand to one hundred thousand bar
rels OF Hour this year; we make all that sell.
aud when there Is call for II shut down the mill;
our principal market is at New York, Albany and
Troy; sent about ten thousand barrels to New York
this year; Buffalo Is not as large grain market as
it used to be; there is not very large amount OF
Western -four sold and consumed in Buffalo, last
year grain was carried from Chicago to Buffalo by
water; 1t was from three to Ave ceuts per bushel
TO Mr.. Sterne-I do not complain OF the actual
rate charged. but do of the Determinations that
exist.
CHEAPER sEABoAIp CITIES THAN
YORK.
John Alexander, one OF the witnesses who was to
! be examined in Rochester, sworn-I am a book.
keeper with c. u. Woodworth. OF Rochester; our
goods are classed first class; we do not get a
special rate from New York; we ret a special ratio
from Philadelphia and Baltimore; we pay ON glass
ware thrty-hve cents per hundred weight from New
from Baltimore and Philadelphia to Rocbes-
ter; teri, we ,,, paid sixty sixty cents per hundred
in 1876 1t was forty-seven cents: were paying
forty-hve cents from Philadelphia and baltimore
York by the way OF the Merchants Despatch Com
pany; we have special rates the New York
Central road and by the Great Western Despatch
Company over the Erie road-that is, we we're re-
duced from the irst class to the second class; wo
and then from New York TO tho West cheaper than
We could by shipping direct from Rochester
TO the West; know that this has been done; sup.
| pose that whom the goods rcshipped from
New York they came over the line OF tho New York
Central road. passing through Rochester,; know
that they were reshipped from New York by the
Blue Line, which runs over the New York Central
road,
TO Judge Shipman-We buy ut Philalelphia and
Baltimore because the frcights cheaper; would
have bought in New York II could have got as
good rates; asked for them OF tho local freight
agent; did not get them.
To Mr. sterne-wc pay $4,000 freight charges per
| year glass and pottery.
] TRADE AT DUFFALo DIMINISHED.
Conway w. Ball, OF Buffalo, was sworn Anna
commission -four and grain mercnant; have been
I m frag haNn ruts.Al
Buffalo has lost. because the railroads have dis
! criminated against Buffalo. and they would not
| furnish proper transportation in 1885, 1869 and
/ 1S60.w offered flour to the New York Central aud
Erie roads and they refused to carry any price
because they had facility for shipping; this dis
elimination has affected my business very seriously;
| Mr.. Carlos Cobb devoted two years OF his time In
trying 70 get bill passed through the Legislature
to stop this discrimination, and after failing 10
j ha N..ss