New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-01-29
THE BRITISH MINISTRIES DEMAND.

OF CoNFIDESCE-RUssIA DISTRUSTED.
LONDON, Monday. Jan. %, 1873
In the House of Commons this afternoon Sir Stat
ford NOrthcote, Chancellor Of the EXchequer, ac-
| copied suggestion of the Marquis of Harrington,
leader OF the Liberals that after Sir Staords state
meut, when the supplementary vote Is moved, the
debate, should be adjourned until to morrow. This
was because the time of the House tonight is
already otherwise appropriated to the orders of the
| day.
Sir Stafford Northcoe in his statement this evening
said that intimation had yet been received that
an armstice was signed The peace proposals were
not yet officially known, bnt have been commune
Gated as authoritative by Count SchOuvalOf the Rus
sian Ambassador. The terms are mainly the same as
| those printed in this mornings Post sir Stafford
Northcote also said that he would express no opinion
which might be used for the guidance of Turkey,
but he considers the terms very sweeping The char
aCter of autonomy for Bulgaria was not that agreed
| upon by the COnstantinOple Conference. Admins
tratiye autonomy was Then conceded now there Is
/ provided total separation from Turkey, under
! Prince. Regarding tributaries becoming lndepend-
ent, he would nothing but ii must raise difficult
questions since II touches OthernCrcSts. The lndem-
nifty condition is very elastic How Russia may elect
| TO take the indemnity and what territory she may
! ask are highly important TO Europe. European con-
cert Is therefore necessary. The understanding re-
garding the Strat' may mean something OF nothing.
| But II il Europcan-In English-ntercst. He eX-
planned that the credit asked for not connected
with the sending of the fleet TO the Dardancllcs. but
| is permanent measure that England may appear
AZ the Congress that must assemble with proper pres
iige. SIR Stafford said the Government asks for the
credit as a vote OF confidence, that IT may inter-
| the Congress more firmly.
The Marquis of Harrington asked since n vote of
confidence was wanted that the debate be adjourned
| TO Thursday next.
Sir Stafford Northcoe, in the course of his state
mcnt III the House OF Commons, to-day, pointed out
that the Russian proposal for the consolidation as
an autonomous prncipaty of all the districts in
] Ir,, ,l,o sl,or,,
boundary of Bulgaria almost to the sea. lie said
rumor having some appearance OF authority, stated
that the Prince for Bulgaria to be chosen by
I the Car. Tins a powerful State would be estab-
shcd in the very heart of Turkey. with prince de-
| voted to Russian interests. After tOuching upon
the other conditions, MS stated above. he said re-
ferring TO the yagucness of the final condition rea-
tive to the straits call attention TO this TO point
out that the conditions are matters upon which no
| separate understanding between the bcgcrents
! can be acknowledged by the Powers. We have ex-
pressed that opinion 10 the powers, and believe 1t
will receive their assent. Austria has repeatedly de-
clared that she entirely shares our views. We can
not disguise the vast Importance OF the questions
! now raised; the keystone of Southeastern Europe
| Is being removed Relative 70 the rearrangement
! winch must be made, ono thing Is certain that
Turkey must not be urged 10 continue the struggle
| for purely European objects.
| WHY THE FLEET WAS ORDERED TO THE DARDA-
| NELLEs.
| The Chancellor then explained the negotiations
which Immediately preceded the ordering of the
fleet to the Darianeles. He stated that Russia in
her reply 10 the noted dispatch defining British IN
terests, only promised not to acquire Constanti-
noplc permanently. Lord Derby, on January 10,
sent dispatch to Count Schouvalof declaring that
the Government were strongly of the opinion that
! IL was most desirable To avoid even temporary
| Russian occupation Of Constantlnopc, which might
| seriously endangcr the relations now happily pre-
vailing ibctween Russia aud England Russia,
Il
! the permanent acquisition 81 tonstantihople
but added that ii the Porto obstipqancy
! operations, he reserved full liberty Of action.
TIE GAR MAKES \ PERTINENT INQUIRY.
| The Gar could not understand how the course he
was pursuing could affect British interests and he
! asked for statement OF these interests The Eng
lsh Government shortly after. perceIying the Rus
slams approaching Gapoli, replied that they con-
sdcred any operations tending to give the Russians
control OF the Darlanecs would impede the consid
| Grafton of the terms of peace. and asked
for an assurance against the Occupationof Galpol.
They received the reply that Gallipo would
nei Their be occupied attacked unless regular
Turkish army shoud be concentrated there. Bnt
pc receiving that the movements of both Russians
an d Turks were tending towards Gallipo the Brit
ish Government asked, and on January Is obtained,
the Sutan's permission for the entry of the fleet
into the Straits. The orders to the fleet to enter
were cOuntcrmanded in conscq ucnce of the receipt
| of telegram from the British Ambassador at Con-
| stantinople, avowmg his belief that the kuNSian
conditions provided that the question OF the straits
was To be referred to European Congress. After
the orders were councrmanded, corIec-
! ton of the Ambassadors telegram was re-
| ceyed, stating that the question OF the
Straits was to be left to the Sultan and the Car.
! The Chancellor added that from subsequent lnfor-
nation he had not the slightest doabt that Russia
! intended this question To be settled separately be
tween herself and The Porte, not OF course eXclud-
| ing England from the ultimate discussion, for Rus
STA cannot exclude England. lie now asked Tor the
! vote, that when they went into the council OF
Nations they might he able To show that when Eng
| land had once decided on course she was deter
| mined not to leave the sword unsharpcncd. The
Ministry woald not consider the vote an incentive
| to
Sir Stafford NorthcOte subsequently concurred in
the motion for the postpOnement Of the debate until
Thursday
LORD DERBY's EXPLANATION.
| In the House of Lords this evening LORD Derby
in few words explained that he had rendered his
| resignation because the Government decided on
| step with which he could not agree, but in thirty
six hours the circumstances having changed and
the Government reconsidering its decision, he with
drew his resignation.
| The resolution of Lord Stratheden that Oppos-
ton to any occupation of Constantlnope would not
be breach of neutrality. was Withdrawn, Lord
Derby opposing 1t Of purely abstract character
GREAT DEBATE EXPECTED.
The Press Association understands that upon the
announcement that the Government would consider
| the money vote to be vote Of confidence, Lords
Granville, Ripon and Kimberly and some of tho
other Opposition leaders, hastily conferred together
and, although no definite resolution was taken. it is
understood the Opposition will accept the Govern
ments challenge and arragn its whole Eastern
| policy. .
Lord Harrington proposed the postponement OF
the debate, 10 give the country an opportunity
| to express its opinion. -
In the lobby it Is expected that the debate will
occupy four nights. II the Government is defeated