Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1878-06-13

for you? Ans.-By his sending for me through An
Ques-Didn't you, write to Anderson 10 come and
see you about your candidacy" Ais wrote him d
number of letters.
Ques.-Didn't you write TO Anderson TO come and
see you about your candidacy? Ans.-Possibly.
Ques.-Didn't you write to Anderson to come and
S Sfd you ABOUT your 'ai'l'a'yF AAS-'sr' Ike"
Quas-DIdn't you write TO Anderson to come and
see you about your candidacy? Ans I have nOt an
exact recollection whether I wrote first or he; Oul
correspondence was somewhat extensive.
Ar Butler DISQUALIFICATION me; you were
about to become a candidate for high Office under
the government Here Il drunken, miserable
fellow down in Louisiana or had been down In Lou
isiana a man wnom you had learned had got a cor
rupt agreement TO have the naval otficeship; you
member OF congress who had not yet bee1 Iliseated
and you we've about to make application. Don't you
know whether that rascal came and made an cffel
OF services to you or yon went to him? ADs.-Well
sir, Anderson and myself had bad conversation III
regard TO the collectOrship before became candi-
date and in regard to Packard.
Ques.-Leave him out? Ans.-AboUt myself,
cannot swear whether the suggestion came from
him or from me- or from some friend of mine,
Ques.-l mean the suggestion that the l0afei
should take part in it; that's whai want? Ans
remember writing to Anderson about that matter.
Ques-Dldn't you write to him TO come over and
help you? Ans.ZI wrote him number OF letters;
s.-(Sharply)-Did you write to him, before he
said ANYTHING to you, to come and help you? Ans
oues.~Don't you believe you did? Ans-That's
my best recollection; unless saw the letters could
not tell.
QueS-What induced you to go to Philadelphia
for this miserable man TO aid you in that candida
ture? Ans.-I stated that Anderson had suggested
to me number of times, and 1t was so understood
that he had papers or documents that the powers
that we're would Re willing and glad to listen to.
Ques.-When did he first make that statement to
you first leaving out the Weber and the Nash agree
ments? Ans.--Sometime previous to that date, per-
Ques.-Did Anderson say anything Or write any
thing 10 you about any documents, leaving out the
Weber and Nash documents. until you wrote him
about or asked him about such documents? Ans
Yes.
Of
ton my first letter to him to come here must have
been dated i'll Philadelphia; Anderson was here i'm
mediaely previous TO recess or Immediately after;
have heard him say that he had letters from Senator
Matthews and her papers beside the Weber and
Nash documents could not fix the exact date.
Ques Without fixing the exact date. will you now
swear that that was before the holiday recess?
Ans.-I could not.
Ques-What is the earliest day you recollect that
you knew anything from him that he had them or
claimed to have them? Ans-It IS very difficult for
me TO answer that. During the time that the COM
mission was there knew that he had letters from
Senator Mathews at that time, because he SO In
formed me. am of the impression that he in
formed me about what is called the Sherman agree
ment either before or Immediately after the holiday
recess; cannot remember exactly.
Ques.-No, we have it that when the visiting
statesmen were there in April; Anderson informed
certainly Informed me- and think he showed me a
letter from Mathews of Introduction to Judge Har-
Ian: or something Of that kind; my recollection is
oues.~Did he tell you what he was going to do in
consequences of that Introduction? AnS.-He told
that he had called, would call on Harlan, and
my recollection is that he did call upon Harlan more
than once, and presented letter of Introduction and
conversed with Harlan; don't recollect what he
Said but he said that he had number of interviews,
and ne told him at that time, as reco!iect that he
gave that Weber agreement TO Harlan; that is the
time he found the agreement, and he SAID that he
sent II to Mathews. My recollection is that he saw
Harlan, was promised some position, and delivered
him the document. He says he sent it to Mathews
but my recollection Is that he gave 1t to Harlan.
Oues-Then you know that he was sent with
confidential letter of 1ntrJ duction from Senator
back and FORTH and that he had given him copy of
the Weber affidavit? Ans Yes; my recollection is
that never knew what vas in that agreement until
saw 1t in print.
Ques.-Didn't you ask him, then. what the Weber
affidavit was II you did not know about it certainly?
AnS.My recollection is that he stated to that it
was an affidavit to the effect that the protest was not
legal
Ques-which document did he tell you he gave to
Harlan, on your recollection; the original or the
copy? Ans.-The original.
Ques-Dldn't you say to him. What on earth did
Harlan want OF that?'' Ans.-I don't recolIect our
cannot give the words used. but 1
expressed much surprise that Harlan wanted that
Ques,--In answer TO that surprise what did Ander-
son gay? Let me help you; Didn't he say, why;
help me to get an Office" Or words to That etfect2
Mathews would secure HIM an office.
Ques.-pid you express any surprise to Anderson
that after Mathews and Harlan had been Informed
and false protest that they should promise give
him an office? Ans.-I have no doubt did.
Ques--How did Anderson meet that surprise of
yours? Ans.-YOu win have to help me out.
plo, ed by Mathews to watch Packards people for
him? Ans.-No, didn't hear of it.
Ques.-And to report to Harlan about il? Ans.-I
never heard anything about the Packard govern
ment.
to consult this man? Ans.-My recollection is that
1 supposed he wanted him for the purpose of con-
sulting in regard TO the office
Ques.-You were surprised that he wanted to give
him office, bat not surprised that he wanted TO
consult him about the Office? Ans.-Thats about
the idea
Ques.-When did you first learn from any living
being that the Sherman letter was in existence?
Ans-I cannot give the date when learned of the
existence of such letter. am satisfied learned it
from Anderson himself,
Ques.-When you first heard of it, what did you
hear 1t was? A. s.-The recollection | have of this
letter is that 1t was letter given By Sherman and
StOughton TO Anderson and Weber in reply to let,
sent to them by Anderson and Weber stating that
they had made returns from their parishes.
Weber letter / want simply to learn what YOU
learned the contents of the Sherman letter were
about? Ans.-That II was about the fact that II
party, and make their returns and do their duty,
they would be rewarded and their services would be
remembered by the administration coming into
Ques.-DId you think that at all important as
Ques.-Can't you tell me whether you thought
was important or not? Ans.-I did think SO; yes,
CUES. Now, 1t being an important letter. written
loafer, did it strike you as strange circumstance
that you would forget? Ans.-I have never forgot
TENT.
Ques.-Then can't you tell US what you thought
when you learned that important thing? AnS.-I
have fixed Ii as near as can.
Oues-Some time prior to the meeting of congress-
In october, you learned of this Sherman letter?
Ans.-I do not say that positively; l have no way
that fix beyond any question hat that was the
date; when Mrs. Jencks called on me early In Janu-
am satisfied learned of it from Anderson previous
to that-prevf0uS TO January.
CUES. Now, then, you had learned from Ander-
son that he had made false affidavit that there
was fair election, when you beieV there was an
unfair one; you had learned OF corrupt agreement
with Nash YOU had learned that he had got letter
that you Thought a very strange one, ana you had
learned from Mrs. jerks that she had something TO
do with that letter: you were about being candI-
date for collector and that being the condition Of
things you wrote to Anderson TO help you? Ans
Yes, sir.
Ques.-Now, then. you expected help from him on
account of his having these documents? Ans
Certainly. certainly.
the fears of the administration through some of its
principal or attaches on the publication of these
documents? Ans.-That was one of the means.
Oues-That was one of the crutches you were to
walk on? Ans.-C6rtainly.
Ques Whether the right bower, or the left bower.
we won't say the records show you worked up
TO the best of your ability that right bower? Ans.
Dues And now, sir do you not believe you failed
because copies of this matter had got out? In your
conscience, was that not it? Ans.-In my opinion,
either myself, some other party suggested by An
derson would have been appointed but for the fact
that Ii was known that copies or these documents
were the possession of other parties and that they
were virtually public property.
CUES If these documents h4d not been published.
you would have been willing to have owed your cleo
ton the efforts of perjurer and blackmaiier
with false documents collector at of the prin
cipal offices? Ans.-YOu have stated him to be
such.
Ques.-You yourself stated it just now. Ahs.-Not
of my own personal knowledge.
Cues. You knew the man to be corrupt; you be-
lieYed his affidavit to be falSe you knew his ac-
Quaintances would say he was drunkard; and you
knew that using these documents for this purpose
was simply blackmail? Ans.-Certainly.
Ques.-Then haven't you stated all that have?
Enthusiastically.
Ques.-Then we don't substantially differ, and you
were sorry you failed? Ans Naturally. Laughter.
Ques.- You we're not surprised to find Anderson a
messenger from Mathews to Harlan? AnS.-Nct al
all, sir
Oues.-You knew Mathews knew Anderson to be
Just what You did. except as to what his friends
thought of him? Ans.-I think he was generally
well known to Mathews.
Ques.-Now then, in regard to that interview
You say you saw Mathews at his house, did you:
Ans.-Yes, sir.
Ques.-Did he send for you, or did you go there
gestion.
Ques-State the first thing you recolect that eithe
of you said Ans.-I suppose you mean anythlnl
that will bsar on this case and effect the point yoI
wish to make?
Ques.-You have no more idea of the point wan
to make than you have of the Indian language, aDC
do not intend you shall Go on with your story ans
let my points alone. Ans.-The first thing that
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