The aegis & intelligencer. [volume] (Bel Air, Md.) 1864-1923, 1878-08-16
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BEL AIR, FRIDAY, AUGUST IS, 1873
Deer Creek Farmers, Club.

MesSrS. James glasgow, OF Baltimore, George
NJ McComas, X. b. and d. &. Mccoy and Others,
were present.
committee to inspect the farm &c, CON
sisting of Messrs. Lochary, Munnikhuysen and
Gorrell, reported that they noticed a number of
hogs, including Il particularly fine Berkshire
sow, and also II fine Essex SOW and pigs The
weeds had been moved on pasture field, which
was good idea, rs it allowed the small grass 10
have chance to grow. Mr.. Glasgow's corn is
good, even on the poorest field he has. The
committee agreed in saying that they had never
seen barn so well filled with grain, hay, &C.
and it was mystery how SO much could have
been packed in without first taking of the roof
and then replacing it.,
The subject announced for discussion was
TIMOTHY.
Mr.. Geo. Il, Glasgow preferred timothy mixed
with other grasses for pasture, and also for cut
ting hay for his own sock. If the hay is i'll
tended for market would prefer timothy alone.
Some contend that timothy cxhausts the land
What crop does not, if cut year after year with
out manurng. Timothy should be top-dressed
every second year. He pastured his timothy
two or three weeks and had more and better hay
than if il had not been pastured. Stock will not
eat coarse timothy Timothy alone will bring
better price in market than any other hay
Livery stable keepers prefer it because horses
will not cat much OF it.
George NJ. McComas endorsed Mr.. Gasgow's
views and added that timothy brought also n
higher price for shipping purposes, for the same
reason because it was chiefly sold to livery stable
keepers in the. cities. lie thought the Deer
Creek Farmers Club was doing q great deal of
good, and alluded to the remarkable progress in
agriculture in Hartford county during the last
fifteen years. He spoke of the institution of an
agricultural society and the new mode of mend
ing roads by contract, both of which had been
brought about mainly through the influence of
the club. He also advocated the organization
of county savings bank, which would give
facilities to persons of small capital 1t would
also inculcate business habits among our people.
From $40, 900 to $50 600 are annually wasted in
the county by excessive interest, and good bank
would lessen this tax upon people obliged to
borrow.
Thomas Lochary said he was in favor of SOW
ing timothy for moving and pasturagc. Stock
prefer a variety of grass and hay and do better
ON it. Timothy helps to keep weeds down.
For feeding at home mixed clover and timothy
is best, but for market timothy alone will bring
the best price
VIM. Munnikhuysen sows timothy, but did not
think it improves land. On poor land we had
better SOW clover alone, but where the land is of
sufficient strength timothy mixed with other
grasses is better. Timothy hay is much over
rated. He would rather have good clover hay
for feeding. 1t will keep horse in better CON
dition than timothy 1t is, however, the only
marketable hay We have. Sows timothy before
the drill with wheat in the fall about one bushcl
to six acres. You can improve poor land with
clover, but not with timothy.
Henry s. Gorrcll was "dOwn on timothy" and
thought it as great a curse to land as whisky is
to the human family. 1t has n short root and
sucks out all the nourishmcnt from the land
Glover is superior to timothy us n pasture or to
improve land. Since war tunes everybody has
taken to raising timothy. The sooner VIC aban-
don it, the better for our land and the better for
our pocket. Has never known good crop OF any
kind to be raised after it unless the ground was
heavily MANFRED.
r. b, Mccoy said that raising timothy or not
depended upon what you desired to do with
your farm. On grazing farm you can not do
without timothy or orchard grass TO mix with
clover. If for ordinary agricultural purposes
you can do better without timothy. Plaster and
clover have brought the Deer Creek lands TO their
present fertility. Glover sod is better than
timothy for wheat or corn. Timothy cXhausts
the soil.
John Moores agreed with Mcssrs Gorrcll and
Mccoy. One crop of timothy eXhausts the soil
more than any crop we can take otl0he land
He regarded timothy, politicians and potato
bugs the great curses of the agricultural COM
munity. The politicians and potato bugs you
can get rid of, but timothy you cpnnot limo
thy ought not to be sown unless there is pros
pect Of getting $50 or $40 ton for it. Then it
might pay, as we could afford to put something
on the land. Timothy is q decided curse and the
sooner we abandon it the better. Every farmer
ought to have permanent pasture Then he
would never fail to have crop of corn and
clover. For hay, clover is greatly superior to
timothy. The difference in market value is not
more than 50 ton and clover will tatten cattle
better than anything else will. You cannot
raise any crop after timothy without fcrtiizing,
and any crop that comes after clover is better
than timothy.
H. Gorrcll again spoke earnestly of the mis-
take farmers making in sowing timothy,
and said if we looked back we would see that
our fathers never put III crop OF wheat and
failed to raise it, They did not use pound
OF artificial fertilizers. When the war came on
we quit raising wheat and raised timothy
This year the farmers of the county had to put
on hundreds Of tons of bone to raise crop of
wheat on the land that has been impoverished by
timothy.
Geo. II. Gorrcll did not think much of fattcn-
ing cattle on clover alone. By sowing timothy
with clover, the timothy will gradually kill out
the clover. The clover roots will feed the timo-
thy for year or two after the clover tops dis
appear. Timothy is the best tattening grass.
Jas. Lee was opposed to timothy and thought
blue grass and orchard grass good substitutes
The former does well here. Sows some timothy
from force of habit, but thinks it wrong. Pre-
fers clover hay for horses or anything else. 1t
will fatten cattle and horses much better than
anything else.
K. Harris Archer thought we should sow limo
thy, as it was better To have it than Weeds
Timothy is sure to take and you will have some
thing ON the ground. IL you sow clover and it
fails TO come up you have nothing on the ground
in hespring. Cattle will fatten better ON mixed
grasses than on clover alone. We ought to SOW
all kinds of grasses, then if one misses the
others may hit. Kentucky blue grass is a good
grass mixed with other things. 1t will not pay
here to raise timothy to sell, We are too far
from navigation. Timothy will pay when it nets
Sl2 All acre. You can not make SO much from q
corn crop, considering the labor of raising it,
w. g. Mccoy believes in mixing grasses and
not in sowing one alone. Did not see how we
could get along without some timothy.
VIM. F. Hays was opposed to timothy. 1t lisa
great drain on the soil. AS for hay, nothing can
compare with well.cured clover for iutlcning
purposes.
MIR Archer said it was n good way to turn
cattle out on clover and timothy carly. Let them
tn-t lima t,,i. a.
and cut after harvest. 1t will then make the
best kind of hay.
s. b. Silver said he had noticed great deal
of timothy scattered over his pasture field
Early last spring he pastured ii very Close
Since then it has come up and is now III head
His stock do not appear TO have eaten it SINCE
Timothy is hard on ground.
James Glasgow had a better opinion of it than
Nj. Moores and others. He approved of mixed
grasses but for the benefit of the soil prefers
clover. The objection to it is that it is hard to
cure. If well cured there is nothing better for
cattle, but FOR horses, particularly driving
horses, he preferred timothy. Timothy must he
pastured closely, or cattle will not cat it.
y. NJ. Bayless had never sowcd anything but
timothy and clover, aud thought he could not
get along without timothy sod for fattcning
cattle Tries TO NOW timothy when in bloom
1t makes good pasture through October. lie
likes timothy for feeding horses, alternating it
with fodder or oat straw, but clover may be
better for cattle or cows
George Il. Silver, the Secretary, said he was
not much of an advocate for timothy and
thought tia little hard on soil; yet in our method
of farming we must have it to n certain extent.
If he were raising grain he would not sow timo-
thy, but would prefer mixed grasses. For cattle
timothy comes in well for late pasture. They
should be turned on before the timothy gets too
tough Cattle will not eat it when it has gone
to seed
JOINS ii. Janney, the President agreed with
Mr.. Glasgow that timothy was good in its place,
but not much of it should be sowD. Is decided