The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-30

7 WOuTd Ike statemtnt TIM
during the Interview Anderson referred TO this forged
jurat ON the protest which has been talked about,
sayIns that everybody seemed to know that Judge
Hugh Campbell mad forged that jurat, and she gave
her most unqualified to the remark saying that
she knew That the fact IRON what she had heard
from other parties.
NIX. CHANDLER RECALLED.
Mr. William Y. Chandler was then recalled and
questioned by Mr.. Cox
pissed between you and other parties upon the bust
ness Of your VISIT to Florida in The TALL oil 1892 A.
Will do so; have them here with me
The witness then produced and read to tho
mittse kilograms sent 10 and received by him from
various parties, none OF which contained any matter
q. | viii ask you abou. your performance Of
duty In Florida. state distinctly, and wnhou.
pubcans in Florida, ana VIVA. part. II any,
ycrr knowledge. ny other republicans there, in as
sisung or IN any manner conniving with anything Of
the kind A. have no knowledge OF any repub-
iican frauds; there were such charges made by
the democrats, which wc disprovsd. by reply and
counter proof tho republican visitors rom tho North
and Judge SIMMONS. Mr. Bisoeu and my set prepared
Tor the canvass OF the state by sending mo nearly
present to the Canvas,ng Boari aud they were laid
before the Board; neral ". Martin, now at Taila-
haschic. Fla. was thc chairman Of The Republican
Campaign Committee and had general 0vofsight Of
tho Work OF Obtaining information and evidence;
desire 10 state that the So 900 which had received
from the Centennial National Bank was handed by
me 10 MIN and By HIM expended in paying the
ponseS Oi procuring testimony.
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your WORK thsret A industr,ous, persistent legal
LABOR in tue preparation and trial Of the causes the
state Was soon ascsitaned IT, Do very close. and EVIL
dencc was prepared TO be used before the Returning
board t0eestabsh our side.
BY Mr.. spr,ngerDid you have tins assistance OF any
officers or employees OF Ihe government oi Ihe United
States IN this work.
The witness in reply gave detail the names OF the
gave also tho names OF The Floriaa politicians who
had received government appoi ntmcnts the recon-
mendaion VI him ,clf and Governor Noycs.
q viii now take up another matter; from whom did
you get the 1rst that the Psckard govern
first iniorms,iou winch consIdersd r.lIaols rc-
ccivcd from Stanley Matthews, some time between
the 18Th ana 18th of February 1877; had heard rn
before that cnec,, but could not believe
them until rcceivs the Information IRON Mr.. Mat
thews; called upon MIN on this Occasion at his
room - Wormley's and had conversation with
him; iold hm had called 10 see him because had
heard that Governor Hayes wnsn hs should como TO
Washington intended 10 stop at soma private ouse,
and wanted express hope that he would not do
so, but would 20 70 some hOtsi, 10 avo,d the
jeaous:es that arise such cases he replied that ne
thought Governor Hayes would stop either at
Judge Swaync's or ~ Senator sherman's;
then ra'd, as an excuse for coming 70
him the subject, that l ;ct somo
sort OF responsibility Tor Governor hayes until tho
4,h OF Marrn, AMI ther SAID. no VIII take care Of
UGH intorost Ia getting Ihc new atnin istraiou
well started. wish you would do shc best you can,
your Influence 10 prevent President Grants rec
ogaz w p. ckard governm- - remarx al once
excited my attention, IL he Hrst tangibo
denco had hau mat the d,shOnor and dishonesty tnAt
aiterwArd followed was contemplated; said 10 HIM
that IL occurred 10 that woud be the best
thing II Grant should recognize aud csts olish tho
Packard government; he SAID, M; because II Grant
should cu Hayes would be bound by tue decision
OF his predcs essor ana would not be 1t liberty 70
change disre lard it replied that thought that
would DO about tho best tniny That could hap
pen TO have tho recognition absolute by
Su. 10 give him The question as an ud,ca,ed qn.s
vu; no said, .No, that Is not the best way Is
intention 10 have the Nichols governments recog-
al han afl hAP nj I'M fin0 In
10 an inquiry from me, he said the intcntnn was
to have Tie Hampton governments recognized
been, mo inc S,cnaiis rovernmens nat 10
be recogn, xedn or 'rs 10 BIO cstablishe >,
the new adm abstraction the Nichols government
to be recognized; said 10 HIM did not now tho
President could help recognizing aud sustaining the
Packard government when tho Hayes electors had
been chosen by tho same votes ana had the Same
tale; he said he had been looking into that
ana there was no difficulty about It what.
ever, that he had asccrtaincd that while tho
Returning Board canvasscd vosee for Presidential
the Legislature so tnat Inc sectors mnd The Governor
derived their little from different sources; l replied
that al the reforms were ihs returns o. ~
the RsturDing Board aud thore other cleo.
t0ra returns In tho State, and that tho l.cgisA.
turc had canvassed the vote aud declared Packard
elected from those returns; DO not remem-
her that he made any reply TO that;
then suggested another difficulty 10 him, that II
democratic Senator's would DO the result, and we
would PROBABLY then hsvo a republican administra-
ton coming into power With q democratic senate:
he replied there would be no troublo about that, ~
would be mad been arranged 10 have republican
Senators from those Sa,es that Is all tho convsrsa
tion had with him thcn.
q Did you nave any conversation with Senator
Matthews after thasi A. saw him at Secretary
RoDeson's the Tuesday before tho 4th OF Marcn
ana stated TO him that thought Packard would DO
sacrificed by that arrangement, and dIssented from
that policy stating emphat,cally that II Packard
was not sustained l would maintGin
the honesty OF the election OF Hayes; that Is an
incorrect statement, however, for have constan ,y
ne III. Inn
my way Of asserting the TACT that honest To
take the Presidency by the vote OF Louisiana ami sell
out mo Packard government before tho ink was
hardly dry upon tho electoral decision which
Lou,siana for the Hayes electors Mr. Evarts General
nea what said: Sir Kasson tried Justify the
policy. anu Mr. Evarts and General Garfield sara but
litilc IN assent or d ssert OF u.
q. From that time havc you had any special recog-
niIop, exup. In getting places Tor FLORIDA men, IRON
the aominisl ratonY a. have had positive recog
nuion; / never have been applicant for Office
und or the ad stratop, and nAvo had personal
friends appointed upon my asking: ! nave asked
nothing IRON tho administration aud have received
nothing.
q. Then you got what you asked tori tLsughter.)
D.d you aitcrward call on General Gar6cldY a. Yes,
BAR and expressed my Tears lest the party and admin
istrayion TO bc dishonored by what frared
going forwards during this conversation with him
told III conference Of Generals AT Wormleys Hote,
IN Mr. Matthew'S room, aud think hs said Mr.. T..
John Ems OF Louisiana, was present, representing tho
sherman present; bc stated that the object OF tho
conference was 10 sec " some arrangements could he
made by which the Packard government could be
abandoned surrendered gwen up, AMI no said that
Mr. sherman seemed TO b. oosing after some way TO
arrange II iha Packard should voluntarily withdraw
Governor did noiRsk Mr. Garfield u he had cred
into such agreement, bocsuSc dii not then ih,nk
1t possible ne would, but bavo since become satisfied
that no did and bave said so; have been informed
that sir. Garfield mnds some memoranda concerning
that Interview, and should like very much II,
because 1 may have done MIN an injustice.
row ANDsKsoSs TESTIMONY.
General Thomas q. Andcrson, onv Of the mem bers
OF the New Orleans Returning Board was tnon called
ana questioned by the cnsirmtn. Ito TESTIFIED 10 his
appoint messenger TO bring tho certificates or
he elcciorai vote TO Washington, aud also TO the
ui procedure OF tue Returning Board
In reply Ia questions by General Butter h. said
that he thought Packard had not considerable ma
jority over tue Hayes electors: bc could not say
which eic,tor hat y higher number OF votes than
Pack ard lie SAID the returns wonid show. and Wit
ness excused and requested to LOOK mo The
matter.
MRS. jerks REcALLgn.
Mrs. A. ID. jerks then recalled, and ravc TO the
Chairman n package OF letters ssid by her 70 have
bee received from Andc son, with copies 81 her re-
pies 10 tho same and stated she expected 10 receive
the letters OF Governor Kellogg that had been asked