New-York tribune., 1878-05-25

| ported it unanimously, believe, every one OF the
| five Republicans and four Democrats on that lead
ing committee voting for it. The Republicans
were Mr.. Window, Mr. Allison. Mr.. Sargent MI
Dorsey. and Mr.. Blaine the Democrats were Mt.
| Beck, Mr.. Eaton, Mr.. Withers, and Mr. DAVIS OF
West Virginia. The amendment, in the hgilt oil
Mr. Clarkes accusations demands careful reading
| Ii is as follows:
Provided that where wood and timber lands I'm the
Territories of the United States are not surveyed ana
no money herein appropriated shall be used to col
lect charge for wood or timber cut on the puOnN
lands IN Territories of the United states l0r the use
of actual settlers in the Territories and not for export
from Territories OF the United states whee tue u
ber grew And provided further That IN the event Una,
any timber the pubic lands shall De exported
from the Territories Of the United states II shall De ia
! BILE to seizure by United States authority Wherever
| found
This is the extent of the formal Senatorial attack
on Mr. Schurz this is the exact delineatiOn of the
false and unpatriOtic attitude of Senators;
this is the limit of their making it "a crime IN the
Secretary TO resist robbers" This proposition aud all
the debate upon it was printed in full in The Con-
greSsiOadl Record, open to all comcrs, nearly three
weeks before James Freeman Clarke delivered nus
discourse.
This amendment from the Appropriation Commit
tee il must be admitted. drew the line very sharply
on Mr.. Schurz. 1t proposed to give him the money
but did not propose to let hm spend 1t IN haraSs-
ing and depressing the settlers in the distant Terri
tories 1t gave him ample room and verge enough
for the detection and prosecution OF all who were
trespasslng the public lands to seize timber and
export it for sale; but 1t drew the distinction, which
Mr. Schurz had shown his inability to see the dls-
tuction between this trading and temporary depre-
dator on the public lands and the honest settler
cutting his own frewood The was so well
stated by member of the Appropriation Committee
that quote his words:
want to make a remark or two Mr. President, be-
there has been very large amount OF nsrcpTc
sentaon aoat in the country for The as Ten da ABOUT
this timber question \ good many gentlemen on TINS
nOor nave Dceh Ded up as lsihE 70 ic me ", 'ot
called timber thieves congratulate The senate tua
this amendment presents exactly Tie Issue that
we want to make. This is not any attempt
whatever to defend timber thieves. This amend
appropriation IS made for the purpose Of de-
tecng and bringing 10 justice those who may be timber
structed and want them to understand tat man Who
for instance on Puget Sound and the lands adjacent
thereto masts for export to ASIA or Europe or he
Atlantic states does not fail In the same category as the
who is settler and who goes for actual residence
and who house and who wants wood 10 keep him
from freezing. If you cannot make that dlstlhc-
On there is proper administration OF the Jaw wha
ever / undertake 10 sag that rhGt the dmendnen nor
Dend,ng embOdiS IS precisely Tdt mas 6ce ne prdeIe
to ls49 public lands administered under the
Treasury Department undertake to say that OF the
twenty-five Territories OF the United states, many OF
| which have grown into great popuous states, thcle
never a solitary charge made by the United states
for what is covered by tins amendment-ueyer one dol
lar tnat the public lands administered by Alexander
Wdm Waon il by aWoTd 9a@ES 6y Rcbsrd & Rnb by LOUIS
| McIAne, by Levi Woodbury., by Robert ); walker
great statesmen of the past of both and Of all political
parties-I undertake TO say that there never was an
instance 10 be found which gives colorado preteuce
for saying that a settler in any OF the Territories was
ever cha god for the timber taken from the public lands
for his use and benoof for the use and advantage o
the present administration OF the Interior Department
am glad the amondmcnt presents exactly the & ts,ae
who have had charge of the public lands from Alex
ander Hamilton down TO Zacnarah Chandler, ana on
lNvi. IN IA IN M
Wisconsin aud Iowa and Nebraska aud Kansas ana
Arkansas and Louisiana and California, Oregon hissis
sippi Alabama and Tennessee were organized under
take that OF tuOse states has grown mp
ana been peopled undr exactly the liberty which Is
liberty which we propose mere 10 SiVe'
When Congress came to consider this demand for
z further appropriation, they already had the Mon
tana memorial before them, and they were obliged
either to tIample it or to give the relief 1t sought
As between the two petitions-from the Depart
ment of the Interior and from the settlers OF Mon
tana-the advantage was all on the side of the for
mer The settlers were thousands of miles from
Congress; Mr.. Schurz was on the ground The set
tiers had DO means of influencing Congress beyond
pleading the justice of their cause; Secretary
Schurz in addition to the justice of his cause-ift
had any iusuce--could command also personal in
tercourse with COngress-day if he desired; he
had the advantage of his high official position and
all the potency that lies IN social surroundings.
The debate in the Senate was full of interest.
| Many prominent Senators took part in il. Mr..
Matthews, of Ohio, opposed the amendment, and
took the lead in the debate behalf of MIR. Schurz.
| Both the Massachusetts, Senators opposed it with
some vehe1nence; and, III mild way, Mr. Chris
tiancy, of Michigan and Mr.. Herman. Of NewlOrk,
| aided the same side In support Of the amendment
| were Mr. Sargent Mr.. Beck, Mr.. Blaine, Mr.. Teller,
| Mr. Jones' OF Florida, Mr. Morgan, Mr.. Eustis-a
| thoroug gh admixture Of Republicans and Democrats,
| North and South, East and West The Western
Senators were thoroughly aroused and intelligIble
| There was no uncertain sound in their terse, ndIg-
nant facts Mr. Clarke can preach no better gospel,
can offer no better atOnement for the sin OF his SOUL
than to send for The Congressional H6GOTdS for the
month OF March and read out to his congregation,
without note or comment, every word of this timber
debate MI Teller pointed out the folly and illegal
ity of Mr. Schurz with an ability and drectness that
would make the soul of Boston dettante, like
| Moses in the Mount to exceedingly fear and quake
He said:
| Take the Territory Of Montana, mountain region
suppOse nearly every of il is above the Level OF
Monut Washington suppose tue mayor part OF IL u
higher than the hgaest mountain in New-Engand or ia
me state of Ncw-York. 1t is mountain region with
few valleys and the hillsIdes covered with timber
and ribbed with rich mineral veins one hundred ana
fifty million dollars have bcen taken rom 5hai sro,,Hn ]
OF that section could not have added doar To th9
wealth of Nation but from the fact that they used
| the public timber on the public lands.
The report Secretary read here shows that this
timber Is cut unsurveycd land almost exclusively,
land 10 which the people can get no tltt, aud tmDcI
which they cauuOt purchase The Secretary OF me III
teror mas no right under the law to fix any price what
ever on the timber whether II reasonable price or
obrtner II ls AN unreasOnaD ole One and be Is mucn
yioator law when ne attempts to fix price upon
the TIMBER public lands not authorized bY statute
ms tDe man who steals it, whether II Is III Minnesota
Montana or else He has no greater right To
deermuc the question of the value OF the TIMBER lhd
| they nave. No such authority Is gwen by law. 1hr
| Goyerumcnt has sad All this land IL open 90 and
occupy IT. and settlers went there Inc secretary O inc
Inferior said "YOu may occupy II on condition ha you
nav an arbitrary price that will fix for THIS TIMBER
Mr.. Sargent. of California. has the same bad habit
| f nnnnkinn ripht ont In meetlng with force and