New-York tribune., 1878-05-14

as question OF privilege the Chair would give him tia
privilege OF Offering the proposition in his right
not with ghc Chair bn with the gentleman (sr Potter,
representing the majority on the other sid. by end
offer IT, "''e !"
longs As 20 the question OF detcrlang WHITTIER
the amendment shall come H. do not VI III - allow Tia
amendment 10 be of red The final re.lJ1ns b ia Low
ever does not rest upon me- bat upon the Hoss Re-
pesentatyes which may refuse 10 secOad te ifey.0us
question. Bot gentlemen made ansvcr 20 NV
request 10 state what his amendment rrIatss TO- any
more an that he IT relates 70 the general l ct
! of the PRESIDENTIAL frauds
Mr.. HALE-Wii the gentleman allow The amendGeat
70 be read and the9 ne sil nde5Stald what it isi
| the D.mocratic sideI
If lac chooses and II ne refuses 10 answer, and insists
givngme an answer in qnre Of foolscap tnen say
that not such an appeal 10 my courtesy as ought to
than the States of Florida and Louisiana.
yetIgaIlon TO selected States and will not allow II TO 20
outside. Is tnat the reason why be wild not admit any
amendment tell gentlemen PLAINLY that my amend
is not confined to tne States Of Florida and Louis
iana.
Mr. PoTTER-Now have got at last an answer TO
my inquiry and decline to yield for the amendment
II frauds were attempted in Florida and Louisiana they
were carried successfully and became operative. II
the object OF the amendment Of the gentleman from
Maine Is TO show that there frauds South Caro-
lima by which tho electoral vote OF that State was count
ed for Hayes, when IL ought 70 have been counted
amenGment Of that sort but the gentleman from
Maine will not venture to declare anything Of that
Mr. HALE-In other words you 10 say that any
frauds apply the one side arc to be looked into
here, and that any frauds committed by the gentlemans
party to be excluded Is that itf Aplause
Mr. PoPTER-Oh no. The world OF wrong is very
wide 1.-THE gentleman Wishes 70 INQUIRE 10 matters
and Louisiana, do not object Let hlm introduce his
resolution for that purpose and have himself pt at the
Applause the Democratic side.l seek nothing Of
the Kind. am not aiming at persons desire TO ascer
tain II fraud the electoral vote OF these States was
really perperard ana If So how it was perpetraed in
order that such frauds may be prevented hereafter
Mr. HALE-And the gentleman denies any attempt at
Investigation where there clearly shown frands-he
Doldest in American history-perpeITated by his own
party IN haf dozen other states he refuses 10 let
that lnyestlgation go TO MS COMMITTEES: ~, - ...,
ton that you seek but amendment you propose is
not germane to thls resolution ana INTENDED 10 prevent
MI HALE-Bat the gentleman Will not let II 90 the
committee Of which he s the mead do not ASK for tue
appointment OF q committee with majority from tins
side OF the House; bu ask that the inquiry which the
genteman's resolution proposes be as sweeping as tho
Mr.. P0TTER-Well, let the gentleman from Maine
sweep the drt for himself daughter on the Democratic
Mri HAIE-The gentleman from New-York evidently
does mean TO sweep. Laughter on the Republican
Ir. POTTER-Yo; not with the insufficient broom that
you would like used.
GARFIELD's SWIFT THRUST
Mr. GARFIELD Rep. Ohio took the floor, but was
met with calls to order the Democratic side.
Mr.. POTTER-I yield to any one OF the visiting
statesmen fLaughterI
Mr.. GARFIELD-I understood the gentleman nom
New York 10 say when he first up that be was not
seeking investigate the Presidential tite but to IN
vesgae the question Of fraud in tie Presidential cleo
tion. Now il That be so can only say that the gentle
mans last pOsitiou-that he Will not lnNes-
loss the vote of. that State was necessary
put the President in the Presidential chair Is IN con-
changes his position now TO one o' seeking 20 get az mo
Presidential tue II he seeking TO get az the question
In fRp
believe the vote OF this side OF the House 10
mass ms provided be will enlarge it TO take in
gl other cases where there is real bona de allegation
aud belief by large body Of the people OF fraud iuy
a. rat s ANYTHING that he believes To have existed IN
Florida aud Louisiana. II he will enlarge bis resolution
i'm that way, 1t sill have my vote aud the vote OF every
man on tnis side Of tine House several Republc9nsI
Of alleged fraud which, III case it Is rue can only eyrrt
the political advantage OF one pouucai paPig am ana h"s
TO the general advantage OF truth IN the kep1De he
Will occupy the position which all honorable men si'e 10
IA narrow, partisan partial and unjust lnyesugao l1G
pause on the Republican sldgl ana tHe.eofe ask
Mr.. POT1ER-The gentleman from Ohio says that
have changed my ground aud that want 10 attaeE the
Presidential title. Not at all. Whatever may happen IS
10 the presidential ttle result OF this inquiry does
not concern Now. have SAID ana report, tAat
il I only want TO investigate election frauds
the other side Of the House Wonla De
that is general that 1t would never eventuate N
examination at all but there Is & 70 Sys
tiglte not with view TO disturbing tse PreslGeal9 l9s
when were successfully carried out, which
were effective and which brought 10 notice by
the memorial ol sovereign of the Union. Tnese
are jasJ exactly in two states ana no more Ihereofe
be germanc to the resolution, ana would De oil no
CoYGER's DEFIANCE.
Mr.. CoNGER Rep., Mich) took the door, but was met
with loud shouts Of Order" Order" from the Demo
cratic side He, however succeeded in saying: II the
other side of tie House viii not allow my side Of tue
House take part in framing the resolution OF IN
Guiry Democratic side through and pass hs
resolution IL il Applause On the Republican sde
Mir. POrTER-rhe gentleman from Michigan Is KIND
offer resolution TO investigate any frauds that lie may
allege, will be more liberal than he proposes, and
Will receive the votes OF his side OF me House alsq ~
Mr.. HALE-I make my proposition IN good faith. Ihe
gentlemen ON the otner side have declined it Now lie:
Mr. BUTLER dIep.. Mass. )-Win the gentleman from
NewYork lr Potter allow me TO add to his resoutoa
the words south Carolinap
Mr.. GARFIELD-Mssissppi also!
Mr. POTTER-NO, Mr.. Speaker for the simple reason
that no frauds IN south Carolina MisSssipp became
operative. The distinction Is obvious Imust now III
sist on the previous question.
oUTGENERALEO BY REPUBLICAN TACTICS
The Republican side of the House hercupon resored 10
the parliamentary expedent Of Withholding their votes
80 that question to be tested by the tel
lerJhere only yeas to nay, no quorum voting
Mr. POTTER thercupOn moved call OF the House, and
in the call OF the House all the Republican members
answered their names SO that no further proceedings
under the call could be taken.
Mr. POTTER then asked the Speaker whether II the
House adjourned this question would come up as
unfinished business.
The SPEAKER informed him that TX would replaln De-
fore House unt;l disposed OF
Mr. CONGER and other Republicans called upon the
Democratic OF the House not 10 show signs OF weak
ness so early. -
The faunt was answered just dcdautly on the Demo.
cratic side; and II intmated that the question
would before the House until there were enough
Democrats present 10 constitute quorum without VIC
aid OF Republican vote. (rhis will require the pres.
ence of &c least twenty more Democrats than were III
the House tO-dBy.) -.
MIR POTTER made the motion TO adjourn and the
House proceeded 10 vote upon 10 by yeas and naYs
Mr.. HEWITT Dem n. W from the Comniltee, ~
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