New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-03-20

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vie setiers I'm fhe distant Territories shall consider
themselves my cents shall only feel too prond 70 ap
70 re,ieye them SO far as can from any oppressive
| exactfons which irresponsible agents may i"n'' o
OPPRESSION AND ROBBERY OF THE POOR.
Mr. EUsTs Dem, La said he would vote agai ns
to pay the SPECIAL IN N tbe bust
ness Of discovering and prosecuting persons VINO %ese
wh Sen9 Sn s psOS
Secretary should be dismissed with disgrace from the
we're by the eloquent senator from Maine M Bane and
he (DIr Eus) knew that the country, when , ths
developed would condemn the conduct OF the secretary
of the INTERIOR He then referred to Mr. carter me
snecia agent OF the Department sent To LOUISE
ana and said he could hardly believe that the Secretary OF
the Interior knew Of all his acts in regard TO q Oer
seizures in that State The property OF people OF Lou
isiana was seized and in less than hours he
owners reduced to beggary and starvation Inc
dcred by the Department Of the INTERIOR which were OF
despotic character. sezures,w were made on ihror"i
Mr. DAWES Rep Mass) argued that II the legal pro.
ceedings irregular the judge VINO issued nG n
was responsible, and not the agent of the interior De
Dr. EUsTIs replied that the agent had to swear that
fore the Judge would issue writ the agent dla so
nrocecdna The matter should have left with the
Attorney, who should have sashed hse th S
to the title Of the Government to the timber Deore .e
issue OF any writ its seizure One man VINO had cur
timber from land which he had owned iSr twenty Hro
had seized He Mr. Eusis called such action Oppres
sion spoation and robbery of the poor He was siad
this discussion had taken place IL wouid th . ,re
Secretary Of the Interior that was bis duty 10 inquire
into the conduct OF his special agents charged with del
cae duties. 1t would teach him that this was Govern
ment Of law, not OF men,
Mr.. SARGENT Rep.. Csl) said that Upon the principle
advocated State of Massachusetts would never have
been settled. PrOvincalism was the curse OF TINS
country When Western Senator'S got up here and asked
for the people West privilege which had been
enjoyed by the people of Massachusetts,, Vermont and
other states they were sneered at ard their wants were
measured by some county Of Massachusetts. This Pro-
vncialism he was opposed TO- IL was unw0itny Oh y
debate like this Western Senators were not 10 be turned
from their CONVICTIONS this matter by sneers
and statements that they desired to attack the secre
tay OF the Interior No one thought Of attacking the
Secretary Interior until the people Territories
dragged before the courts their property seized ana
they themselves charged with being thieves ana
The policy of the present secreery ofthe nterorwas
contrary the whole policy OF the Government IN re-
gard to timber lands The action was caused by de-
gain cLeap reputation as reformer consh-
crate Secretary instead Of turning the Interior Depart
ment into huckster shop 10 peddle out WOOD, WOulG
called the attention OF Congress TO the matter ana
asked Tor remedial legislation. s..,, ,o,,
DAWES said the remarks OF the Senator from Can
fOrnis Dfr SARGENT much uncalled for by the
debate they by good breeding, and his illusions
Mr.. sARGENT-will you please quote ANYTHING said
aGSGt s ae agr ' nna w a uo yed
Mr.. SARGENT-As yielded TO the senator from Mas
sachusctts frequently see that his good breeding
does not correspond .
manners. . ,
DAWES argued that thousands Of cords OF wood were
the market and it that plumber the Secretary OF
the Interior sought to stop, no matter how much he
might be denounced for being over Jealous. .
Mr. SARGENT said the Senator from Massachusetts in
his original speech spoke OF the people OF the TERRITORIES
remark was consistent with good breediDgi Mr. sar-
gent denied that he referred TO the state OF Massaeh
the remarks OF the Senator mr. Dawesl and he thought
he ent tiled to All apology from the Senator for qes-
Mr. DAWES also explained his remarks, and said he
had disposition to indulge In any remarks offensive to
Cain Ia ~
the people OF the Territories pnderers but ne did
to say that those who were taking property nom
the public domain were plunderiDg II.
THE SECRETARY DEFENDED.
Mr HOAR rep. Miss.) argued that it was bad
thing for either branch OF Congress TO undertake
denim public officer for doing his duty, the neglect Of
which would have made him liable to Impeachment. The
Secretary Of the Interior the very report he
made 10 Congress called attention length this very
subject of timber depredatons Congress over ana over
again refused to modify change the Timber Depreda
ton Act and now charges being made against
public officer for enforcing law to protect public
property whom Congress had over ana over AGAIN re-
Mr.. MATTHEWS tRep., Ohio said it hsd been the
practice Of the executive officers OF the Government to
punish those trcspassng upon the public Lands for fire.
wood or any other purpose and he challenged the sena
Hofizng settlers to cut re,wood from the public lands
Mr. BLAINE asked II it was proper policy to charge
Mr.. MATTHEW'S said It not, but it the policy
Mr. BLAiYi: challenged the senator (Mr, Ma thews,
point to instance where settlers had been charged
stumplge
Mr.. INGALLS, Gscp. Kansasl-l can d0i
Mr.. BLAiNE-Wel Let's hear IL.
Mr.. INGALLS, then quoted from the instructions OF j.
II. Edmunds, Commissioner OF the General Land
Office In 1SG ssued to public land officers to punish tim
depre,llons, which instructions submitted to
the Senate the report of the Secretary Of In
terror for that year. In reply 10 question by Mr.
Blaine Mr. In gals stated that the reports showed that
since ls OF January 1896. the of Sl99,99S 30
had paid into tho Treasury on account Of timber
depredalOas.
Pending discussion, the vce-President laid before the
Senate the Military Academy Appropriation Bill with
the message the House OF Representatives di>a-
greeting the various amendments OF the to thGt
bill. ON motion of Mr. WINDOM.thc senate insisted upon
its amendmentt and a Committee OF Conference
ordered.
The senate then, at $50 p NJ adjourned.