The New York herald., 1878-08-15


that somsihng else didn't pay so vel. ,Laush.sr)
O Did you get another positonf A. tmusins)-
w. no. mot =, ,. In:y % from %aas making Rs UP
my removal; was subsequently appointed minute
clerk OF the Senate through Ksiioggs indusnce
SITUATED LIkk HAYES" -
O. Was that the best office Kellogg hadf a. No;
he Was Nil timo making the excuse that ne was
under Obligations 10 tho Returning BOARD ana IN 70,
turn for his having counted In Was tied TO set
OF scouudrcs couldn't accomplish the reforms ne
emplated; (omphaicayl-he was situated just as
Hayes is now. (loud iaushterJ
O. WHAT ONCE did you next holdr A. became
Tax Collector. ana that WAS an ONCE only held to
,raue IL on for a seat In the nominating convention
which nominated Packard-tlaughter, which Isit inc
witness perfectly imperturbed. and he continued as
coov an beiore,-t was co onsldsrsd better thing to
have n seat the nominating convention.
Mr. Pottsr-I beg your pardon, don't unoerstand
Mr. Lcete tsigniacantly) It was considered
better thing II somebody wanted TO be Nominated.
O. Did Governor Kellogg know of shiss A. Yes.
sir; be bore the expenses OF my nom'aa,lon oy snS
parish convention; some OF the parish delegates hao
TO travel Oily miles. ! don't kno" exactly what inc
MoxK ABOUT THE BARGAIN
protrnclcd struggle ensued once Messrr
Butler ana hiscock as TO the meaning OF ms testimony
In reference to tho existence Of any "bargain Cen
crsl Butler waited TO prove q bargain, whiie NJ HIS
cork was equally ANXIOUS 10 dlsprove H. Coionci
Roberts was made relate now the idea oil the
Macy eigh commission started n conversation 0y
MAJOR Bynum, who thought II would be nice way
oi s'letting ths Packard government down easy II
comm ission conf posed OF hign toned gentlemen was
down TO Louisiana, osiensby 10 settle the con-
but reality TO decide that the NICHOLS govern
ment was the legal one
Tho following question by General Butler sums up
great many others OF similar import:-"rhen this
commission oil high toned gentlemen was sent down
with he official sanction OF tho President ostensov
Tor tho purpose Of invsssiga!ing and hnanns 1S. S
predetermined purpose was TO let The PACKARD govern
.neut down casys" Q.aushter.J
.Thal's exactly IT, - the witness replied, and ne ex
planed thut Tor The sake Of fairness one democrat
was added 70 the four republicans on The commission
| MI. hav f.~va nj Ton
nessee consent only great reluctance TO serve.
He said ddnt ike that sort OF thing and feared
| that setting bad precedent
Mr.. Hiscuck-Was that commission to do any thing
| that not perfectly lair and honoraber
| Colonel Roberm-We did not want them to Go any
| thing else.
Mr.. Hiscock-You aid not KNOW wnat conclusion
| they would come 10. You rested your faith simply
In strength OF your case, did you notr A. That's
all we know about what the Presidents policy would
because tell you that youth the Stato govern.
ment ana know what Pm talking about"
| General Butsr-Was not The real object OF sendinB
| down commission 10 break up the Packard gov
ernmsnt such u maaner that the republican party
throughout The country should not be checked a itr
Colonel Roberts replied in the Affirmative. and was
then asked many questions about the state OF things
Twas Ie, down easy The witness repealed the wsl
Known 10 The armed force ready TO do Gov
ernor Nicnolls' biadlng Colonel Roberts put Tho
General Butisr-lsn't 1t fact that in spite OF all
this the Packard government renamed IN existence
| until this commission sent down by the President
The witness thought that practically the Packard
already destroyed BEFORE for Its con-
troll only sxtended over Elk acres OF ground.
General Butler, TO show up stu further the manner
asked il the Packard legislators not inauced to
go to tho Nichols government by the payment Of
ineir per diem allowance. which tho witness readily
Gsnerai Ba.ler--And DO you call that iair and hon
sst' A. Yes SIR v.,, ~, ,o,,.+
O. Then wouldn't 1t also be iair and honest that
the man who received majority OF the votes Tor
President should have the Office? A. If you ASK me-
General Butler-And when Packard only controlled
OF res. Of the state and 8 900 men, took this
solemn commission fifteen days 10 break MIN upf
mr.. Potter neutrality-suspicious. me to correct you
not br, HIM up, but let him down easy (Laugnter)
General Butler now wanted TO know II coionsi ROD
OHIO the word Ohio, rs Missed ior,h With contempt
BY tne General raised 'ond isash,sr) VINO was NOS
turnsd The laugh against General Butler when ne SOL
smny replied, looking him fol- in the face. "Gssrss
General Batter asked, "wh elscf' Colonel Roberts
W. Curtis ana William NJ Evaris. Secretary OF state
As ne slowly by one, called 10 mind these names
aoIe contempt, which dsepened INTO broad disgust
when he repeated, ''On, yos; William d. Evarts, Sec
action Of the senate on Kciloggs credentials. after
which Colonel Roberts finally stepped aside, ana tho
volubte Leste reappeared.
A YxAUDrLESr cxSsuA .~-,.
Lecte testified that no had charge OF the Louisiana
State census OF 1885, that the number Of coiorsd
frauaulent majority Of republican voters. Jewett,
the Chief Registrar. he dr'iy called Tho chief Of
Mr. Potter tamid loud laughter)-Thers is no such
oface in the Louisiana State govsrnmsnL A Well
KsiIoss % tod RSs,s that he wanted sSo census to
show a majority Of coored voters. kellogg said he
knew the colored voters were there II no u.sets)
nulA anIv find hAm n.a0g hfarl
~ gave my word Of honor 10 the democrats IN my
parish" Leets granailoqueutly exclaimed, 'shat
would not allow them TO be swindlsd, and kept my
word, ~ always do"
In the spring OF 1876 Kellogg told him that he was
ana the csrpetbag business In .he South would
be "played out.p Judge Bradley's oecision de-
regarded by Kellogg s tho death blow to tho carpet
bag system. for u prevented people from being
dragged into prison on the charge OF being Ku Klux
GLixPsxs LOUISIANA POLITICS
Lsee in very gArrulous strain, went on TO toll the
various political rascaes in which he, Congressman
Nash, Anderson, Darrell and others we're engaged
Andersen he described ms "a young adventursr IN
whom he Q.es,eI had taken n sort OF romantic inter-
est" tLaugh,sr) Because Lseto only got a 81, 800
cisrkship he thought nimsel .betraycd" and deter
aushssr "su kellogg had described Xnasrson as
sharp little rascal who would be just tho man 70 20
to Fsc,apa parish. Anderson SAID he'a go; "he
would make his reputation tbcrs or ds. Leete gave
Anderson n letter OF in,roducton 10 Colonel
Powers, the .chlei OF the budozsrs,p who Was
Pupnesn. heieek saiu tna. " tue ouhuole's "ouiu
XIII Anderson he'd mako first rate martyr-(laugh-
ter)-and IL they didn't kill him he'd swinde them
somewhat (Laughter.J Kellogg often told Leste
that If he would get himself killed by the bullaozsrs
Il would be better yet, because he eetcj was the Dc.
centcst man around, and the more decent
tho man the better material Tor stump speeches
in the North. uLaugh'er.) Lsete wsd allowed
to indulge In the most emphatic SELL
pufYery He detailed at great length what he 'pro-
phetically" predicted. lie proclaimed himself an
ardent civil service relormer, "stbough not OF the
kina We have nowr-Qsushtsr)-said that Kellogg
aud he were always conspiring-no, he corrected
himself by saying consulting instead OF coEspr
ing'-to get Kellogg into the Senate. Kellogg cften
said 10 him :-"rhese men who are now nghting you
will walk the streets with their Arms out at elbow
when you and will roll through the streets In gor
gsous carriage, and will ask you who 10 tnat
IoaerY" loud lsughter) Then Lceie gave per-
feet disquiston on Kcliogg's merits and dement's
a politician.
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