The New York herald., 1878-10-11
THOSE CIPHER DISPATCHES"

INTERVIEW WITH ONE OF MR. TILDEN's MAN
Ayers IN yLoRIDA-xNows NOTHING OF TIE
THzx-CouNrER CHARGES MADE-wHAT
LEvERETT sALToNsrALL HAS TO sAY.
BosroS oct 10, 1878
Leverstt saltonssall, OF this city. who one OF
Mr.. riiden's representatives Florida during shs
counting OF the electoral votes, being ques-
toned in references TO the cipher dispatches pub
lishsd In tho New York Tribune. said that though
he had hoard Of the alleged translation OF these
dispatches in that journal, ne had not seen them.
copy OF the paper containing shsm vas handed him,
and after i've minutes spent In reading several Of the
moro important Dispatches Ar. Salssnstall went on
~ foilovs:-'I never saw any tslsGrams 10 cipher
while was At Tallahassee. Nj. Aanten Marble once
showed mo . long telegram. that was mot In
cipher. that he proposed 70 send 70 the World
and that was the only telegram ever
saw while there. Marble did his businsss In hts
own way. ! would like TO say that II ali the
kilograms on both sides were shown ws should see
far moro fraud on shs republican SIDE than
drsamt In these agined cipher translations Of the
zribune's Ny belief Is that there were daily tee-
grams exchanged between Secretary Sherman and
Governor Noyss. who was ss Tallahassee, and con-
slant stinening up OF the Florida Board by these
dispatches until the Louisiana Board haa acted The
Florida Board believe, did not dare TO commit tho
frauds which they committed wholly on their own
responsibility"
"Did you near, while At Tallahassee any talk or
buying the Of the Board :" the reporter asked.
81 had no reason to expect tho slightest effort to
use bribery on the democratic side, nor do be-
ievs here was any," Mr.. Satonslai replied ~ Was
not there a. one Of tho democratic managers, bat
atm want mt tha ron nupat al ho NnttOn NJ
Democratic Committee TO witness count. Like all
other democratic visitors, We gave our own time,
and went at our own expense, 70 per.
form what We conceived to DO . patriotic
duty. saw enough. however. to convince me
tnAt Governor Noyss 10 not she saint that he Affects
os nna ~ ~ s ,sc. so'rss .srs exposed ana 9. ID:
and published, think chapter Of inixmy would be
exposed 20 the people that would mako tins
Tribune exposure, even true, appear very trivial
C0UNrxR cHARGkA
have heard from the managers ON tho republican
on the part OF the Rssurning Board, which
sitsrward proved TO be true, and that con-
municatsd IRON New Orleans 10 Governor Moves
and Mr. W. 4. ChsndIor. l have IN uthdsvit
from one Of me Eieriaa coun.ass-AiAchI. county,
voters, whose names were all 10 tho same handwrt-
Ing presented 20 the Beard by Gevsrnor Noyss. and
answer a SMILE"
'.wnat have you to say to tho fact stated in the
hoiding back resurus from several uusM the
Board opened .he other rsturns SO that requisite
democratic msjorsiss could DO manufactured IN those
.'rsat Is falaa l. was impossible, because the
managers OF those precincts were republicans.
OF them. The returns Were kept back by them
for their own purpose. snd the Florida democratic
managsrs had 70 send eourisrs our great expense
turns from the court houssa That charge at least
v \ lie, and entirely made up whether In other re-
specls these alleged irsnslatioas true or noI"
NWA1 there attempt made 70 lOUuonoo the hoard
bv the democratic managsrsS"
''saeh tnins was utterly inpesaibas rhs aemo-
cratic managers were treated nopodIes by the Re
turning Board rspest here a. have ever said.
that the fraud psrpera.:d BY The Rsturn,ng Beard of
Florida too palpAblc to admit OF the sltghtost
doubt In tho mind OF any reasonable,
'.Do ysu doubt the srusniainsss OF these sansia
yov prsssns shsm 70 me now, nor did hear . whis-
per Of any saoh dsspssehss while ~ TaliAh Assse.
lived IN sne nsxs house: .aa In sns rex. reem 20 Nj.
tons went on, should have heard OF them cannot
believe H. Aad I most positively believe snas,
T,ldsn .svsr hsd .hs slisA.sst knowisdss. si
them. thess dsspa.ohes can be proved
what thsy purpsrs 70 Be my iadxsssion weuia be q
great snybsdys and de not hesitate Nj
l Was near Mr.. Marble throsshout the time eevsrsd
by these dispatches, ana ne appeared 10 me ~ ali
n.rsv 70 Ss n,rn.%,Sd.d booor.Si. '1s rsn.,s%sn
unwilling 70 crcdn that, any circumstances,
be ever assumed 10 do what hs 10 accused OF BY
ION what ground do you base year doubt or the
gsnuinsnsss or the stransiat,onf"
~ notice that the Tribune assumes to guess the
signature OF Mr. Marble several OF the grsvsss OF
these pretended ransiafi0ns, aud that TO other da
npSres Il on.r 70 70 s
This can not bot rsgard an unwnsransa6s sssunp
ion II cipher dispatches are 70 be siolsn-snd that
would seem 70 be sufdcently grave matses-but II,
beyond that translation Of these cipher dsspssehes
10 TO bs assumed and 70 b attached
random where. IN tne originas none are really sgnsd
to sham. Who Is 10 bs sale among all oor pubi,e
.gans: charges Of bribery. Or any otnor grave 'mpu
WAS The BOARD PuRcHAsABLBf
"But M. Marble mas himssf said, Mr. SalsonstslL
that y an open secret thai The Boards vote vas
81 have net she slightest doubt In the world that
that voto could have been bought u NJ. rildsn had
bson oishonernbe enough 70 desrs DONE Tor great
deal less Ihan $5o.oo0 or $4,000; lar less. And
have this say, tnat Il IN estabisnsd that $50 900
nave received more than $50 900 from the
other s,de. II such au sfsr were msds-miad
larger sum was paid iasm by ,ns rspuSoan SIDE"
IL do not belisvs, as matter oi isct, that money
was paid oy the osnsr slde or offered but these men
Ar. Hayesand that u the great thing have against
him-rswardsd every man ei them with an once AZ
more disgust regard 10 Noyss, conauct than tnat
Of any othcr prominent maa Ia fiordA ~ mat tfnc
adsn.iai fr,sad Of Mr. Hayes, Ihs Prss,dsni."
.You were at Tsilahassss until he vs.s was de-
clareufn
~ was, and n the most disag agreeable task
had 10 perform, FOR saw . gross sed abem nsbe
wrong. wnieh Was powsrlsss 10 prevent, oenmitisd
bofors my eyes. seriously apprehsnd shat It's
csssiul tssuo viii maze precedent ana that u will
provo II the iuture sne roek which tree gov.
ernmsns Will DO Wrecked
Mr. 5aitonstal no recalled further Incidents
bsariag Oh the events At raiiahsssss In Dsesm0sr
1870, and, nsving fully mtsd TO lhs Trs
bunes revelations, the interview ended.
WHERE ARE MRssRs. TILDEN, HAvEMxyxR AND
MAsDLE2--A RKPoRrxR's VAIN xrronrs TO
FIND rnEM.
To gratiiy the urgent dssirs the pars Of the
public 10 know whether tho persons named IN ,hs
cipher dispatches had aav reply TO make 10 their
pubI,caton and II ihsy proposed make any pabl,e
explanation HARALD reporter instructed 70 seek