The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-08
PROCEEDINGS OF CONGRESS.

WAsHISGToS, June Y, 1918
On motion Of Mr.. ANTHONY the Senate conearrod IN
the amendment or the House OF Representatives TO
the bill authorizing the publication for sale OF an
edition OF the narrative OF the poaris Expedition
and Il was passed
Mr.. BRUCE, fep) OF Miss, submitted an amend
ment to the River and Harbor Appropriation Dill, so
as 70 appropriate $4,000 900 TO close gaps and
In the svses of'the Mississippi River, Ac-
cording 10 the recommendatons OF tho commission
provided for In Mr. CocKres amendment 70 that bill
Referred to the Committee on Commsrcs.
THE AMY APPROPRIATIONS BILL
NornipR business having been concluded the Senate
resumed consideration OF the Army Appropriation
bill
Mr.. BLAINE, ren) Of No. in charge Of the bin. said
tho Committee on Appropriations held meeting this
morning. and, after looking over tho whole subject
with some care the conclusion that u would
not be wise to unite the Indian question aud reor-
ganxation Of the army under one commission ~
proposed yesterday. He. therefore, by direction Of
the committee, submitted amendment ~ .
substitute tor the tweniy-etRhth section Of
the House bill which authorizes the transfer Of the
Indian Bureau to the War Department, SO as to pro-
vide tor the appointment OF . joint commission Of
three Senators and Representatives, to inquire
The sxpedsncy OF transferring the Indian Bureau
10 the War Department. authorizing the commission
TO send Tor persons aud papers, employ clerk and
senographer report TO Congress on or before the
lst day OF January, 1875 also approprating $4,000
Tor expenses Of the COM mission.
ment 10 tho provision submitted by him yesterday
providing for commission 10 consider the subject Of
army reform, 60, as 10 provide Tor three Senators
on that comm ssion instead Of two. three members OF
House OF Representatives AMI three oicers OF the
Hr. THusaAs ldem. j Of Ohio, said be had intended
TO speak a. length to-day IN regard TO the proposed
transfer of the Indian Bureau, but was not wel
| h do Ha "a
Inclination OF his mind for several years had
been tending 70 she conclusion sn1 s.,.n
service to the War Department The Indian
service administered in part BY tho civil anu 10
part by The military power Was ono Of the great
causes Of our Indian wars He believed there would
be lar less corruption. and the service would DO more
efficiently Administered Ny the military aud tho Ind
rams would get three Iimes as much Of that apprc-
prated Tor them ~ they do nov. We were turning
Employ ment must found Tor them. He favored tho
appointment OF a commission Of prominent men 70
pay them nbsraily that lney nigh. give their whole
attention to the matter
RrnARKs OF Mr. CoKR.
Mr. COKE, tdsm.) OF Texas, reviewed at some length
the Monroe policy tor the government OIL the Indians
and the peace policy inaugurated during tho sdmins
tration OF President Grant, and SAID there was lite
doubt that we were ut this moment on The verge OF
another Indian war through the failure VI the peace
policy II might be cheaper TO iced than 70 hEas Inc
lndians but we were doing both. as we'll ss placing
arms in their hands 70 enable them 70 hight The
Texas border under the peace policy had been
scourged as IL never had been before; hundreds OF
men, women and children had boen Dutchersd and
Indiana He quoted at some length sta.istcs 10
show the extent OF depiedatioDs committed
AGENTS apHn s sppo,n.ea os ohrs..nzs ,hom were
bad tho indiana They paradod before The coun-
try as wealth acquired by the Indians properly which
elevat,ng the Indians 10 higher moral plane the
Indians had dragged the agents down. he favored
transfer of indian Bureau 10 the War Depart.
GU the ground Of efficiency and economy; be.
Sides 1t would give greater peace and security 70 tno
cation Indians will be when they learn 10 Work,
IN that tne cir hunnng grounds are now surrounded
ny settlements and penetrated oy rallroads ana me
Indians must be localized The government should
bring under The dominion OF liked law ~ they
transfer OF ,hs Indian Bureau 70 the War Department
would DO but step Ia the right direction and that IN
proper executive appliances could DO PROVIDED ana
they could be mado 70 submit 10 authority
Pending discussion the senate. q hai,pass one r
attend tho funeral OF William J. Mcdonald, late Chief
Clerk Of the Senate. t.M
Upon reasssmblIng, at hali-past three p. NJ. tho
question beng GU the amendment reported by Mr..
Blame this morning IRON the Committee on Appro-
prialions providing tor mission 10 consider tho
sxpedieacy OF transferring the Indian Bureau Tho
War Department, u was agreed TO-
TIM Army As A POSSE coMfTATrs.
Tho Committee on Appropriations reported in favor
Of striking out the tws1tynIntn section OF tho House
bill which torbds the uae OF the army as posse
Mr. KxRxAx. (dem.) OF N. X, for Mr.. Bayard, who
necessarily absent from the Senate. submitted an
amer this OF ;hs act IL shall not DO
full employ part OF the army Of the United state.
:. nsh pemnorment Or sid force may rs xnrsssiy
by the constitution or ny act OF Congress- Gc
Mr. WINDOW, (rep) of MIMI, opposed tho retention
Of the section any shape and argued that II was use
less legislation. The constitutional powers Of the
President upon this subject could not DO limited by
Congress-
THE USE OF TROOPS
MP. HERMAN OF New York. SAID tho claim was made
by The Attorney Genera IN 1876 the army could
USED rs posse cozaitatus ny United States Marshais
without any call by Governor oil State
ICED by the constitution Sucn right would over
throw our institutions soon. To say that Marshal
copsitat,ls would be Destructive oil our liberties
Mr. BLAINE said the only way that the army was
used posse consitatus Was 10 aid the revenue
officers. To forbid such action would be 10 break
all our guards against Illicit distillation.
MT EDnuSDs treI.) OF W., opposed The section on
prlai,ou bill Besides IL would DO rather singular 70
say The army o. the United States shall not Ue used
purpose Of executing the laws. He inquired
auy Senator on tho other could the President
would 10 order the military 10 uid Mar
sha, ~ destroying a. ' ,s as'ssy y sns sscSa
army was the very thing 10 DO used II any force was
necessary because y was commanded by responsible
non and by the President Of the United States, whose
duty II 10 see the laws executed.
Mr. hoAR trep OF Mass, said the occasions and CIR
cuustans which tho military shall be used should
10 clearly defined by law when practicabs. rbis
section undertook TO accomplish that result IA most
UNUSUAL nnd uudig niicd manner. The whole effect oi
the section was make II psntonliary offence tor
an officer OF tho United States TO do that which by
existing law bound 70 do. The military power
was never used against the cizen, except 10 prevent
him from committing an offence.
SPEECH MEKRiMoM
Mr.. MKRRrMos, tdem.) vi n. c., said the arguments
tho VI the chamber proceeded upon the
presumption that wherever force was necessary tho
army must 90 used. The law provided how the army
should used Tor the purpose oil executing the law,
aud in seeking the aid OF tue army the forms of law
be strictly observed rms section, should 1t DO
amended as proposed, would prevent the proper
use the army. During his remarks Mr.. Mcrrimon
said u WIS much the duty of every officer In
every state enforce Uhed states Law well the
law OF the state III winch no might live.
Mr.. EDarSDs said he wished that had been done
during the last fifteen years.
Mr. MxRRixos SAID We had lad the calamity Of 4
civil war the Senator irom Vermont need not DO
constantly talking about That was no way 10 argue
a question. He (Mr Merrimonl could not imagine
what sort OF feelings people had 10 be forever talking
about III, ng which had passed ny.
Mr. EpMUSps asked N human experience proved
nothing. Did not history prove that what had &C.
Cured once might occur again