The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-30

threatened with, and think Mr.. Chandler suggested
my appointment as special agent OF the Treasury
Department; would state that on nv second visit
70 Tho President he gave me the borrowing note 10
Sccrotary sherman written ON a vniting Card
secretary SHERMAN
shall be appaintea - arst sataos CHANGED sewArd
10 good place, and think he Is we'll lifted for IL
When cav the President again he told me shat no
had heard from mr. Chandler that 1 would accept
POSITION AS special agent he then gave me this note
Exxcurivr MANSION
DEAR Sal am RELIABLY .,sared that T. o. dennis Of
my specially desire tina, his claim msy hare year "a.
lion. J0nx SHERMAN. &c.
The wrsnrss-rhat was lett Dy mo in tho hands OF
Treasury and got ii back assa through Mr.. Chand-
Ter, VINO got IL from Mr.. McCormck; upon another
/ lett with Governor McCormioK. ana which has
been published from that dep srtment beng on nie
was Vacancy 10 the position Of Custodian oI Plates
and os IN tho Printing Bureau; saw thc President
wrote no,e 10 Mr. Mcpherson, Chiei OF tho Bureau,
stating that II the vacancy not Tiled no woud re-
gard y :. personal favor y should Be appointed;
dent and told him that no Vacancy would occur
shortly, ana he knew OF no one who Was going 20 oa
put IN there and tho appointments would DO AarsenSs
to himself; the next DAY spok. 10 Mr. xcCormick
abodt 1t, and no ssd that Secretary sherman wanted
Tho place Tor a friend OF has; told HIM thar Presi-
dent Hayes wanted IL Tor irisnd Of his.
2. And sherman ocala A. Yes, or; b: bsat
part mont OF Architectural (auxhtsr)
BUTLER A Lir1Lk BEHIND
O. Did you know Anything about Arcnitecturcp
A. No sir. bu. that was . Temporary proviso-
erl-,hat was provision Tor temporary relicf
had NO specific iu;y; don't remember that ever
General Bu,ler--stop moment. Let mo SEQ If
understand ing | thought was up TO all tho ways
OF politicians, but nnd am a little behind.
To the wItness-You say place was improvissd for
you IN the supervising architects officer A. Yor sr
there was vacancy or they made ono; ~ any rate,
llied one. tL,ughter)
q. What xas your compensatory A. Six or seven
doliarsa Jay
.. We're you TO travel or stay tneres A. Stay
I there
O Were you ever set 10 work, ana n so what work
were YOU sct abouiY A. l went there several times
but they never had anything isr inc 30 do,
thcrc very often sometimes went there and
times did not, but soon got sick OF that
"a CIVIL sKxvics RsroRx
a. How long aid that state OF Indifference continue?
A. For nearly month; then won't TO Governor
Mccormick aud told Aim TINT as was put there to
oraw pay, did not think snould lose my capacity
do Ito should allow mo to 60 70 Massachusetts
(grcst laugnter, and no gave me leave Of absence
Q Your family was thcreY A. Yes, SIR
q 50 you went up Tor thirty daysr LaughterI
idea Of iosins sroanG IN. Dalans and tout ont was 1
violation OF civil ssrvicc reform TO draw pay
tina, s wy 40" d. Mould op ses to 80 away
address anu expected Whenever the authorship
was ready tor me they would nonty ms asd | would
come on and step into n-tsuEhtcrl; went 10 Mas
sachusoils amt renamed mere untii December
By the Guar man-were you engaged In ,hs Same
absence for thirty days. bu. stayed nincsy or 40
days, and not hearing any,hiug from Washington
concluded was forgotten, and came on TO remind
| them that 1 stu lived tL.ughier)
BY Mr.. Bntler-D'd YOU ger your payf A. When
60; here g.. w s.n sy soud stretch
IN all
FLORIDA.
Q. Did you report III any way send anything
brck 10 be put on hle during your aosencsf A. No,
sir: after got back DID not expect any pay;
acting independently about tho matter but upon my
return mere found could have It, and OF
took II. q.aughter.) Then 90, iuiorms,,on
| That 1 could 60 10 fiori Ia with some degrs. oil
safety, ana l had q conference with officials
| there. and made up my mi"d 10 30 and speak 10
Mr. Chandler other friends minc, and uggestcd
would ike there 90 Official capacity, fddn't
care what IL was; then was appointed 10 tho posi-
non in the secret service have spoken OF dom,
think the President knew anything Of these appoint
| inents have spoken o.
| q. These appointments weso given you TO nll the
vacancy until the oshcr came around? A. Yes, SIR
explained why wanted 10 20 to Gicrida that these
indictments were there pending AGAINST mo-
did know what tbs evidence ww but tho particular
| charge islsc rrstsncss.
Superintendent 81 son GELS 20 us State SUpcrinien-
dent OF schools giving my estimate for nunOcr
OF money necessary Tor their operation Tor tho on
! sung scholastic year; they discovered that
so%a 'n p"s s'"o" anS MOI es, ws,
! charged with falsely pretending there school
wncn there was no school; was supposed TO nave
paid some persons unknown tho amount OF money
iimaled Tor Tho support Of that school, and therefore
had wronged tho county out OF that amount OF
money.
| Q. Although the monev had not been handed TO
you, a. never handled any money; | simply gavc
the tenchors warrant on the treasurer for the SER
wees rendered when they were rendered.
q What DID you do this sccret service bust
ness? A. Ny instructions were to examine the roc
ords Of United states Courts as stated ycster
day.
to tho bar, but mad never practiced nj all.
q. How many forfeited rscogn'zancss did ind
out tnsrrf A. examined the records and Obtained
passed some resolutions creating como inves,i-
eating committees, and the chi~f oil this
as dctee,ivc, winch nusy Knew nothing about; ana
~ WAS IN Florida 10 LOOK afef my own AFFAIRS and
ing several notices IRON him started; the place BIO
wanted INC TO go TO was IN the Dismal swamp Canal
in North Carolina, and IN order 70 get there ! vas
ina, | was travelling aoou, on my pr.
vate business at ths pubic expense ana
that his department had been subjected te suspicion
ana nuondo on that account aud maac written sx-
plsna,on OF my reasons IN goug 20 Norfolk and as
tho same time rendered my resignation.
U What happened ihsna a. Then came hero 10
SPECIAL agent IN the Internal Revenue Department.
Y DID you know ssytning abont whmkey aud to-
bA,cor A. Yer, sir; knew someth,ng about that
business, having been collector o: internal revenue
STIMULATING INVESTIGATION
q What tneo' A. | maar my statement for tho
pur pose ofssin ulating invesIigatiou had bo~cvor,
personal fccng against the President, because lao
ha, always treated me kindy and recognized me as
decent kinu o. mau wnich y mucn oeucI .nnh tuc
newspapers nave done, and always icit that II he
had Influence enough 10 have donc 70 he would have
secured good appointment Great laughtcrD
a You let The contents OF your statement be known,
so shsi Il got around IN the department. do not
know whether got to the department or not, but
let Mr. Chandler know q 20 scni-conhdcntial
manner
a. wnca did you first honr OF your internal revenue
appointment a. Aitcr my statement was published
receivoi letter that my appointment made on the
2sth March SPECIAL agent hsd been cancsed That
ua,, received II on the Ssh OF A?tii.
u. n.
have not taticd TOT u YET
a. they then owe you n months psyr A. 1 20
uudcrstand NJ; have Understood since tbnt when
was appointed | was granted ihirty days leave OF
absence.
q And In tho meantime you published statement.
anu they cancelled your appoint ncntf a. Yes SIR
| and nave never asked for a settlement
q Does this prise all your oflice seeking and
Office .noIding unucr this sdministratio A. Yes,
SIR 1 wish IN. committee would call for my RECON-
me ndations Ole in the department.
without concluding tho examination OF the witness
nInIae N nuan nj y