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may not at that time have known Of his appli-
cation to the state department or remembered

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cation to the state department or remembered
@. In dealing with Anderson did you act on
the Conn letter.
A. Nc, air. never saw that letter till last
week. 1t was filed in the treasury before
saw the appointment clerk. I was appointed
May LIST, 1877. was not aware this letter was
on file. never looked on the files at all after
the publication of the letter to Anderson ap-
peared in the papers.
q. Is it not usual, when anybody applies
for position in the department., to require
some testimonials from outsiders as basis for
the appointment, even when you have made up
your mind to make the appointment?
A. Yes, sir.
G. What official papers had Anderson on file
to your knowledge, and on which you based
your intention to appoint him to this place
that you picked out?
A. Nothing whatever to base it upon except
that letter of Matthews to me. l acted on that
solely.
@. And the particular letter upon which you
acted is the last?
A. Yes. sir
Q, And the letter which you wrote in reply
tc that particular letter on which YOU acted
you have no copy of!
A. I wrote no letter in reply to that.
think it required none, being a recommends
ton for Office. do not remember writing any
reply to it. The letter, that is the last, was the
one on which based the intention to appoint
him.
@. Why would not the President see Ander-
Son?
A. He did not give any reason, but was very
emphatic, and showed great disgust or aver
sion.
@. Give us as hear as you can what the Presi-
dent said2
A. can only give the substance. went
in to tell him that Senator Matthews had
recommended this young man, a political refu-
gee from Louisiana, for an appointment in the
and he had declined positively taking any place
in the treasury unless he could have larger
salary, something like $4,000, and that he had
told me was to see him, the President. I
would understand he was to have larger
place, and he wanted to see him. The Presi
dent declined to see him, and he said he was
not aware that any recognition of that kind OF
his services was required. He disavowed all
knowledge of any such understanding.
=. What understanding, you must have con-
veyed some understandings
A. This gentleman claimed there had been
promise to him personally of place, that
Senator Matthews and the President would
know Of.
g. The President declined it?
A. Yes.
Q. What did he say about his being fit
man to appoint to any place?
A. He said nothing about it. can't say
as to what the President did, but l understood
the President to carry the idea there was no
objection to appointing him to minor place.
He didn't instruct me not to appoint him. as
named to him that 1 had offered him that
place, I certainly understood 1 could appoint
him to that place without his objection.
g. Did the President say to you or convey
to you that you should not appoint him?
A. No, no more than that he showed his
OF ho1,
him.
@. How did he show 1T?
A. The emphatic way in which he declined
to see him.
G. Give lis the words.
"A. cannot. can only give you the i'm
preston left on my mind.
q. Do you mean us to understand all he de-
or place?
A. All he declined to do was to countenance
his being put in higher place.
u Why did it never occur to you to 90 to
see Secretary Sherman chief of the depart
ment?
him with these minor appointments he would
say Il can't attend to that, Smith; I can't be
bothered with the appointments"
q. Still here man that had been down
in Louisiana where Sherman had been, and had
performed valuable services. Why then did
you not go and see Sherman?
A. Because the man would not take the APP
pointment offered.
@. But when he claimed higher one, why
did you not go and see him then?
A. Well, because, his claim did not think
was q matter that needed to take Secretary
Shermans attention.
Q. Still you took the trouble to go and see
the President?
A. did He asked me to. If he had asked
me to 60 to Sherman should have done so.
Q. Did the President at this interview say
Anderson had been appointed to consul
ship?
A. No sir, he said nothing about it.
After some further testimony on the same
subject the committee ad journed.
The Matthctcs Committee.
WASHINGTON June 13.-The social committee
of the Senate, appointed at the instance of
Senator Matthews to inquire into any connec-
ton he may have had with election matters in
Louisiana, convened to-day. James E. Ander-
son appeared in connection with the sergeant
alarms. The committee consists of Senator
Edmunds, chairman, Allison, Ingalls,, Hoar,
Davis, of ILL.,, Whyte and Jones, of Florida.
Senator Edmunds being absent, Senator ALI
son presided. note was read from Mr.. Nor
ris, temporary chairman of the Potter commit
tee, stating that Mrs. jerks was to be examined
to-day, and that it was necessary Anderson
n I@~a Al l.