New-York tribune., 1878-07-31
THE ENGLISH DEBATE.
TIE HOUSE ALMOST EMPTY MONDAY NIGHT.

LONDON Tuesday. July 80, 1873
The debate in the House of Commons last
night Lord Hartington's resolution described all
sides Gull and spritess Daring the speeches Of Mr.
Bailhe-Cochraue CONSERVATIVE and the Hon. Mr..
Ashley eAberaD only three four members were pres
ent and there seemed TO be considerable indifference
to the contest.
During the debate to-day Visoount SandOn president
OF the Board OF Trade said that the Government
acted without the concert OF the other Powers none
OF them have taken any offence; the contrary the
English policy has been cordially received. He does
believe the people the Liberal party would sanction
Mr. Forsters suggestion that the Governments policy
be reversed. Such could only mean that Russia
would De left to do what liked. He challenged the
Opposition 10 stste what policy It wishes TO have
adopted.
MIl. GLADSTONE's CHALLENGE To BEACONsFIRID.
Mr. Gladstone spoke for two hours and half, and
greeted wish loud cheers when he took his seat
lie began by reading a letter which he had ad-
dressed to Lord Beaconsfeld, asking him cite
instances in support of the accusation OF unusabe and
reckless attacks. lie declared he attacked the
Government without deep sense OF responsibility.
He had assigned any dishonorable motive
the Premier. His attacks upon the PremIers policy
based upon rreconcilable and fundamental differ
OF opinion and feeling. He entered into long
view Of heresults OF the Congress- and regretted the
Sc fish jealousy OF some of the Powers in regard to
Greece. With Ssryia and Montenegro independent,
Bulgaria practically so, ana Bosnia and HERZEGOVINA r
revOcably annexed Austria, impossible he said,
10 deny that the partition Of Turkey II not complete,
is as great as that OF Poland lie desired he said the
elevation OF the native Instead Of the supervision OF
Turkey by another Power. He complained Of the Gov
cnments policy from first to last It must feel
when it LOOKS upon the results obtained aud
Sders what might have been obtained without so much
biOodshed n It had moi jralousy severed itself from
Russia two years ago. The Government he declared has
left Russia the finest possible held for working against
the present arrangement The British Penpotentiaries
had throughout the Congress, done their utmost 10
up Turkey and keen down the subject races. For the
in history their attitude not in accordance
vita free institutions. The assertions OF Lord Beacons
field relative tO British Efforts IN favor OF Greece are
not supported by anything the protocols The oonclu
sion OF the An glo Russian agreement practical
contradiction Of the hgh-soundng pretensons Of Lord
salisbury The Government thereby surrendered
its power Of action in the cause Of freedom.
NOT wIrHIN THE LIMITS OF REASONABLE STATES
MANsHIP.
Mr. Gladstone urged objections, similar TO those made
bv Lord Harrington, 10 the military situation created by
the AngloTurklsh Convention. IT, mad been associated
he said with all the greatest statesmen Of England for
half century, and he did not hesitate to say that not
one Of them would have imposed such responsibility
on the country. He cannot regard such policy within
the limits OF reasonable craftsmanship He asked what
the Government Nould have done II aforeu Power mad
concluded sucl convention. The Government had, IN
ratifyIng the convention before Parliament was made
acquainted with h pushed the power Of the Crown TO
an extreme which had neen avoided by the greatest
statesmen. new phase OF the Eastern question, he
said is opened by this startling novelty, which sets the
a Of Europe nanght unjust 10 other Powers over
rides the rights Of Parliament, and lays new burdens on
the people.
THE HOME sECBETARY's REPLY.
After long debate between number Of minor mem
hers M Asshoion Cros Home SECRETARY. replied 10 Mr..
Glad.tones speech lie declared tna he does not know
whether TO consider Mr. Gladstone the humble follower
or the rival Of Lord harrington. Mr. Cross then entered
INTO n detailed T,futaton Of Mr. Giadsioues
charges hut his arguments were mainly such rs
have been used hef0 q. lie maintained that The Con
gr,ss would have been impossible without tue Anglo
Ru,snn agreement lie said TIE Turkish convention
mas not increased Engiand's OusbIlues He hopes
mat the Opposition viii assert ~ tie next general elee-
lion that England has no interests ~ ASIA.
Tie debate WIS adjourned uutl thursday
BEACONsFIELD5 BRIEF ANSWER.
Lord Beaconshcd, IN reply TO the letter read by Mr.
Gladstone In the House OF Commons to-day, says the
compilation ~ the list OF the offensive epthes used by
the gentleman would entail search over period OF
two aud hall years Lord Bcacuusnrld cites express
-ious by Mr. Gladstone that he Bcaconshcldl mas de-
graded aud drba-ed the great name OF Englabd that ne
has sold the Greeks and that lac has been guilty oI an
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