The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-07-13

ctoI TrOubIes-That Chicago Loan.
WksHrNGToN, guly 12.-The Potter com
rnittee met to-day shortly after Ii oclock' |
Present Messrs. Potter, chairman; springer
Butler and HiscOck. A,a ord
1uas further interrogated by Gen. Butler:
He testified that, in his opinion, had HayeS
recognized Gov. Packard by telegraph ILlLle
dieteIy after the formers 1naugufatlon, anu
followed the same up by an Official rpcognii-
4ion as President Grant had done In MS (hel-
Io01,s1 case, the people OF LOUISIANA IN
clIIdtng the Nichols faction, would nave
created no trouble.
In repIy to q question, witness said that ne
considered Mr. Packard elected as fairly as
fha Haves electors were, 50 far as Louisiana
was concerned. Gen. Grant had telegraphed
wifness a day or so before he went out o1
office. stating that he had heSitated about
recognizing Gov Packard in consequence o!
there having been a commission appointed 10
investipate the result of the Louisiana cleo
tion, referring to the MeVegh commission.
''When did you first hear OF the sherman
"Within the last year; heard last fail that
the Sherman letter had been found among ID:
A. Weber's papers, and that Mrs. jerks had
obtained possession OF it through her III
timacy with the Weber family"
WITH witness then related, in reply to Mr.. But
Ter that Mrs. jerks had called upon him IN
New Orleans and spoken OF the Sherman let
ter. While explaining tne conIenIs ol @ tLe
document. Mrs. jerks sat on "a sofa and pre-
tended to be reading him the substance Of the
letter from paper she held In her hand:
Being busy, and not caring 10 De connected
with the affair, he advised MRS. JenKs 70 can
IN Packard. which he believes she did, but he
was unable to relate what occurred further
than that Mr. Packard said he did not attach
any importance to her conversatIpn
Upon being questioned by MT Hlscock, VIII
ness testified that in his opinion the state
ment made by James b. Anderson, to the
effect that he (Anderson) had been assaulted,
was nothing more nor less than conspiracy.
He had requested Anderson to return to his
narish and had given him money to go back,
but he remained in the city and spent the
money. He never employed l.. b. jerks to
watch him, as he Uenks) had testified. Wit
ness pronounced this statement entirely
Imaginative and without foundation
ne alluded to Andersons testimony to the
effect that IL Kellogg did not return Nash for
the Sixth Congressional District he and
Weber would burst the election, and stated
that he never used the language which An
derson attributed to him, namely: "By -!
III YOU want to put your neck in halter, you
go ahead and do it; am Governor OF this
State; I control the police and the courts.
"A word to the wise Is sufficient.
He never attempted to induce Anderson TO
make q fraudulent protest. DO not remem-
ber having conversed with him regarding
protest after the election. Mr.. Kellogg re-
marked that Anderson was not man with
whom he would hold such conversations, as
he (Anderson] had testified to what mad oc-
eIIrred between them. ,
Witness. after being questioned at length
nv Hiscock with reference to the testimony
OF u. L. Weber stated that, with one or two
exceptions, the same, so far as it related to
him lKeIloggss was entirely without fOunda-
tion. He (witness) had never been informed
Nv Messrs. Weber and Anderson that the
elections in their parishes had been peaceable
and that they could not make proteSIs Oh
that account. ,-,
Mr.. Kellogg said that he believed violence
and intimidation had existed Id fne parishes
Of East and West Feliclana, East Bat 3n
Rolpe. Ouachita and MOrehOuse. he Thought
That the result Of the intimidation and terror
ism was to destroy the Republican malOr1tleS,
especially so In the five parishes ABOVE men
toned, Judging from the fact OF their having
ALWAYS gone Republican previous to 1876.
O1estiOn-Did you see Mr.. Sherman when
he was in New Orleans with the visiting
statesmen?
Answer-Yes, sir.
OWHOw did ne employ himself?
Ale was present at the open meetings OF
the Returning Board daily. am not aware
that he participated in any proceedings or the
board to a greater extent than other VISITORS
In answer to question witness stated that
he did not know Of any forged or unfair pro-
test being used before the Returning Board In
1876, He also stated that II any one had any
lettara written by him bearing on the election,
ne hoped that they would not delay in pub
fishing them; the sooner the better
The committee at o'clock took recess for
half an hour.
AFTERNOON SESSION.
Upon reassembling, Mr.. Springer took
charge of the witness, who, in answer to his
questions, said that he knew j. MadisOn
Wells. He said that none OF the members nau
ever come to him and threatened not to sign
the report of the Returning Board. That
Gov. Wells had spoken to him OF kenners 8
financial embarrassments, and that ne then"
nerl would suffer financially by remaining In
the Returning Board. That this talk came
up incidentally while talking over the board.
That Gov Wells had never told him or even
intimated that it would be necessary to raise
money for Kenners benefit; that Wells never
intimated to him that it would be necessary tC
do something for Kenner, to counteract the
influences being brought to bear upon him by
the Democrats.
tional Bank of Chicago after the election, bu'
the paper has since been taken up. Senator
Kellogg explained that he had loaned S14,0 ,0O(
to G, G. Wells and restored borrowed
money, which had been expended 10 paying
some debts he owed in Chicago and New Or
leans, mostly in the latter city.
His brOther-in-law had not, to his knoWl
edge, contracted to pay some OF this money
to the city OF New Orleans In connection witt
election expenses. IL was purely business
transaction
witness stated that he had an interview
with Senator Spencer soon after this loan
during which he said that he did not thinE
Rennblicans with proper consideration. They
had undergone many trials and vexations
and many of them had spent large sums o1
money, but witness denied that he ever tolt
Senator Spencer that he had drawn none!
from the Chicago bank to pay certain mem
bers OF the Returning Board.
He did not remember that any member
the Returning Board had DEMANDED sou, OO
before signing the report. If Senator Spen
Ger has said that he (witness) had ever pait
any member of the Returning. Board any
money for his signature, the witness SAID
was false statement.
Witness said he had deposited several thou
sand dollars worth of securities In Chicago
but no money raised on any OF them was evel
paid for Louisiana elections. He thinks h
subscribed about $4,000 for campaign purposes
in his State, but he had never subscribed sincC
the election.
He denied that ne had ever stated that ht
had ever borrowed $4,000 of Collector Cock
rell for the use of the visiting statesmen anC
that IL had been used in securing three Hayes