Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-07-13

rather tlmld and had suffered good ueai lof
his relation with the board in 1874, and ne was
comparatively poor, and felt that he did not
really like to further incur the odium connect
ed with his position on the returning board.
@. Was not proposition made that some
money must be raised for Mr.. Kenner or
another member Of the board? A. No, sir.
@. Did not Gov. Wells say that the Demo
Gratis were using large sums OF money and 1t
would be necessary for the Republicans to do
SO also? think that Gov. Wells said that the
Democrats were iraking great efforts, and he
feared they might bring to bear great infiu-
ence on some members of the board or their
clerks or attaches, which might do damage: He
thought the opposition would bring that inftu-
ence to bear if necessary to accomplish their
ends, but he did not suggest the raising OF
money by Republicans for the purpose of coun-
teracting that influence, and no such measures
were taken to my knowledge.
@. Did you not borrow about SOU
after the election from the Union National
bank of Chicago? A. I did.
@. Who were tn sureties with you upon
that loan5 A. John B. Lyon, of Chicago,
commission merchant, an old friend of mine,
endorsed the note, and l had some assistance
from my friend G. B. Farwell, formerly a mem
Der of Congress, and I believe director in the
bank, though he was not an endorser OF the
note. This in August or September, 1877.
That paper has since been taken up.
loan. A. 1t had nothing at all to do with the
election. l loaned portion, about $14, 600 or
$15 900 of the money obtained to my brother
in-law G.: w. Wells; and / used portion to pay
off debts that / owed in Chicago and New
Orleans.
The witness was questioned at length by
Springer in regard to the disposition Of the
money thus obtained, and reiterated his state
ment that none of the money was used in any
way in connection with the election, or with
the count made by the returning board but
that it was purely a business transaction.
The witness was also questioned by Springer
as to conversation held by him (witness) with
Senator Spencer at Chicago in regard to his
500, 900 loan, and he denied that he ever said or
intimated to Spencer that the money was to be
used for the purpose of paying one of the
members of returning board for political SER
vices rendered.
@. Did you ever say anything to Senator
Spencer about $4,000 having been paid to any
member of the returning board previous to the
final signing of the report of the board? A.
No, sir. If Senator Spencer has stated any
thing of that kind, he has certainly misappre-
hended what l said. To put it in as respectful
and emphatic language as l can use, it is GER
tainly not correct.
@ Mr.. VIM Simpson has testified before the
subcommittee in New Orleans that he was in
formed by a gentleman who was present at the
time in Gov. Kellogg's Office that one of the
members of the returning board declined to
sign the report until he was paid SIS, 000 What
do you know about it? A. l know nothing
about it whatever except that l know there is
such man Mr.. Simpson and he has been
turned out of the custom house and is prob
ably oreheaded and has been specializing a
good deal. have no knowledge of any such
thing ever taking place.
@. Do you not know that certain assurances
were given to members of the board? A.
am not prepared to say that there was not
some conversation which might have led mem
bers Of the board to believe they would be pro-
tected.
@. Please give us the best information you
have as to what the returning board did expect
for their services. A. / believe the returning
board and it's officers generally, felt that il
Hayes became President there would be Re
publican State administration, and IN that
event they would not be subject to the admin.
istration or ostraclsm which they knew was
inevitable If the State fell into the hands OF
the opposition.
@. Do you mean they expected to be provided
for in the way Of Offices? A. No, sir. think
the only thing they expected was as have
stated, that the State government would be In
harmony with the general government, and that
they would not incur, in that event, any Demo
cratic hostility:
@. Didn't they have assurances that either
the State or United States would reward then
by public offices? A. do not think they had
except as they might infer that they would re
ceive that degree of encouragement from the
national government that is usually conceded
to men of that class.
The witness was then questioned at length by
the chairman in regard to the sending of thu
electoral returns of the State to Washington
they being found irregular i'll form, and as tt
the manner Of preparing second set OF re
turns, and in answer to one OF the question:
said that Kelly who was said to have signed
the names to electoral certificates, was detailed
an officer of the police on duty at the Stat
house.
@. Do yon know where he is now? A. Idt
not.
@. Do you not know that at the beginning
of this investigation he was at Lake Providence
La? A. heard that he was.
@. Did you not hear that the day he wa
summoned before the sub committee at New
Orleans he was carried off by a man employed
in one of the departments here in Washington
A. / have heard about it. l have received
one two letters on that subject. l received
a letter from James Armisted, a colored MAJ
in New Orleans, formerly on the police force
in which he stated Kelly had gone up the rive
ployed here in the United States Senate. Gle
stroyed that letter as do all letters containin.
| scandal and rumors concerning matters OF tina
kind.
Q. Did you not get a leave of absence TO
Kennedy to leave Washington? A. | aske
Mr.. French, the sergeant-at-arms. to let hin
go, but had no conversation with him in re
| gard to his purpose in leaving.
@. Do you know where Kennedy can b
found now? A. do not.
The committee then adjourned until Satul
day morning. Chairman Potter expects to leav
for New Orleaus within five days, and as Hun
ton is absent, the committe will be left with
out quorum. 1t is the intention, therefore
as soon as the examination of Kellogg is cor
cluded, to take a recess for a week or ten days
The Committee.
New ORLEANS, July 12.-At the meeting q
the subcommittee to-day E. l.. Weber. II
called, testified regarding occurrences in Yves
Feliciana parish, A suit was pending agains
witness for nearly $4,000. He did not go bac
to the parish and settle the affair because HI
wife was afraid for him to go back.
Cross-examined by Mr.. Cox in relation to h
connection with the legislature and his absene
from the Packard Senate for ten DAYS Witne: