Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-03-24

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you know if you try to force food his gums
will bleed: I have always been kind and gentle
to him and all patients there; and always will |
led him with soup and opened his mouth with I
stick; no one would put their finger into his |
mouth to have it bit off, I would not; the pa
tlent was getting weaker ever since he fell |
from the building; the last morning he was as |
weak as he could be; we had been looking for |
his death every day; said to Helberg and |
OConnor: have some soup and meat, give |
him some; we seated him down on seat-not !
laid down; opened his mouth with q stick; |
OConnor gave him two or three spoonsful;
at the third he seemed faint; we raised him up
but that did not help him; said take him into |
on a bed and went for the doctor, who stayed
with him till he died, which was about fifteen
minutes; | said if that strangled him, q glass
of water would strangle me.
CROSS QUESTIONS BY NIB. DORIAN.
We did not have help enough, SO got the pa
tient, OConnor; said this O'Connor might
set it ronnd; that or you (Helberg), caused his
Death; did not say OConnor had got talking
so much had to remove him; did not say
Mcdonnell was strangled by O'Connor pouring
the soup too fast; did not say was afraid
McDonnells son would come and make trouble;
don't know how long O'Connor had been down
at the temporary hospital; can't remember
minutes and hours; he was sent back within
week after; don't think it was next day; don't
know when I had administered food to him be-
fore; am not positive whether there were three
or four to hold him; take care of Dr. Kerr's
church; get small salary, which, I think.
is a benefit to the State; get six and half
dollars month in the summer and eight and
a half in the winter; have to make fires and
keep the church clean; don't have to saw the
wood; have to ring the bell; sometimes take
the patients; never had them to saw the wood;
sometimes l sent them down town; patients
sometimes go out alone; l have asked them to
go to the church, and have sent them up there
alone.
By Mr. Rice-Had no trouble in the house
with Helberg, but he used to talk about me
outside the house; don't know if it is rule
of the house that is to speak of what
occurs in the house to any one outside; it is
rule that no one shall receive presents from any
patients or their friends; might, in joke,
have said that it would be best to smother the
patients, as in England.
Mr.. Doran-That would be a serious joke to
make to the attendants.
l am positive did not say that feared Nc
Donnelrs son would come and make trouble.
A. J. LAMBERTON SWORN.
Am merchant in ST.. Peter; know Helberg;
he is a very reliable, truthful man. I believe
he would not say anything he did not believe.
believe the same of Mr.. Belts
The committee then adjourned till o'clock.
Second Dispatch.
Special telegram to The GLoBE.]
ST.. PETER. March 23.-Some more spicy cor
respondence took place to-day, and append it
in full, as follows:
MINNESOTA HOSPITAL FOR INSANE
ST. PETER, March %.
To Hon. NJ. Doran, Chairman Senate Committee
OF Investigation:
DEAR SIR: My attention has been called to
communication of yours of the 23d, through
me to Dr. Bartlett in which your committee
seem aggrieyed at the appearance of mis- reply
to your communication, land that his course
seemed to be to forestall public opinion etc.
| desire to say that DR.. Bartlatt was in no way
responsible for the appearance of the reply re-
of it whatever, until after it was sent. I
responsibility, and will give you
my reasons why it was sent. was at the tele-
graph Office in the evening, at the time your
communication to me in which DR.. Bartletts
to the press, and desired that his reply should
appear at the same time. l went for the copy
in the hands of Secretary Kerr, and requested
it in order to send it down 80 that it might APP
pear at the same time as supposed your COM
munication would appear the next morning.
telegraphed did he know it was done. Thus
the responsibility of sending it rests with me-
(Slgued) Yours, etc., Il. FLETCHER.
BARTLETT TO THE COMMITTEE.
ST. PETER, MIMI, March %.
| To the Hon. M. Doran, Chairman of the Senate
Committee of Investigation Of the Hospital
for Insane:
DEAR SIR: Your communication of March
pital and before the committee at the Nicollet
House, is at hand. In reply, desire to call
your attention to certain matters referred to in
such communication. II is claimed that I
attempted to forestall public opinion by
sending to the press copy of my letter Of ex-
PLANTATION. desire to say in reference to this
matter that after addressing such communica-
tion to you left the original draft Of such let
| ter in the hands of Mr.. Kerr, the secretary of
the board of trustees: that gave no direc-
ton to send such communication to the press,
aud had no knowledge or intimation that the
same had been sent till after the dispatch was
| forwarded, hence l am not responsible for its
appearance.
In relation to my action ut the hospital, was
| instructed by the chairman of the board of
trustees. several days before the arrival of your
| committee, that when your committee came to
the hospital for the purpose of Investigating
its affairs, that l should Immediately notify the
local committee Of the board of trustees, so
that they might meet your committee before
you commenced the investigation, and ascertain
your line of procedure, and in what manner you
proposed to conduct such Investigations and what
privileges would be accorded to such local com
mittee by your committee. That when your
committee appeared at the hospital on the Goth
inst, informed you of such instructions, and
requested you to delay the examination unit
the local committee could be sent for; that l
would send for them Immediately. md that
thought such committee would bespresent in
about ten minutes. Ithen left you for the pur.
pose of sending telegram to such committee
and on my return, and without any intimation
from you of such intention, found that you
had taken your departure.
had no conversation prior to Your visit will
either Mr.. Schimmel or Mr.. Kerr relative t.
the matter, and from my instructions from the
chairman Of the board of trustees, inferred
tnat it was my duty to ask your committee te
delay investigation until the arrival of tn.
local committee SO that such committee coulc
in conference with your committee settle al
preliminary questions in reference to your ex
animation.