The New York herald., 1878-10-20
COURTNEY ON Oath.
HOW Hanlan Won the La
chine Boat Race.
THOSE CIPHER DISPATCHES.
Indignant Denials of the Alleged
Bargain and Sale.


rendered the result somewhat suspicious. Very
pertinent questions have been asked about
the threatened foul at the nnish and tho
seeming freshness OF Mr. Courtney when all
was over, and especially Is an explana-
tion required Of the singular dispatches which
were sent by one OF his hackers shortly before he
roved. These dispatches caused the betting 10
change so suddenly that many OF Courtney's friends
lost tneIr previous confidence and became panic
stricken Members OF the press have constantly be-
real facts, and he has suffered greatly
from excitement and from the stigma which has
seemed to fasten upon him. As he had re-
Gently said that he would De glad 10 submit
u examination under oath by the correspondent
et the HERALD about anything connected with The
race, the latter spent last Wednesday with him and
obtained from him the following sworn responses TO
the several questions which were propounded TO him.
Alter answering some preliminary questions about
the statements had made to his friends about his
ability to compete with Hanlan, MrsCourtney was
asked
couRrSKY's DISPATCHES.
O. During your stay in Canada did you at any time
telegraph any one anywhere? A. Yes, tolegraphed
home, and I've got the messages here now
Mr.. Courtney produced the folio wing
Deceived =. Union Spring. \ i; s'sosSi -. - 100
.r,ssn Them sasa :" ''S'- CHARLES E. oot ETSEY.
LAcursE. Quebec. s.2e. 1878.
Received at Union Springs, IL ".
send graft by mail, quick Make It larse .s possible.
''A 'A''''A'' UHARLEs +. COURTNEY.
@ Are these Two all the dispatches you sent any
whore while you Canaoai A. think they
are. / don't remember any others II there
any they didn't amount to anything
Q Did any part OF this message refer In any way to
betting on the race or your prospsctsf A. No; not
thing.
Q. What money this you referred to In the de-.
spateh to hm9 A. 1t money John SEND II
he could raise any. The despatch was answer to
ths one:-
UNION SPRINGS Sept. 25. 1873.
there any e ys'
O. Who is ParKerf A. It's Lowry. We call him
OLD Parker hero It's his nickname.
40 then testified that ne remembered sending no
other dispatches from Canada than these two; that
he asked ono else to telegraph for him; that all
is parsy-namey, Webster Brister, N B. Eldred,
Robert Larmon and Burt Brown-sow all messages
sent or received by him; that said Burt Brown. in.
stead OF being. as the newspapers mad 1t, "a Union
Springs banker" was q coiored servant who took
care of the boats, and that he not in New YORK
sity shortly before the race.
Q, Report said ne was in Now YORK city just be-
fore the betting against you Ia TINS truef
4 l know he wasn't.
REPORTS ABOUT SELLING THE RACE
9. Dio any Canada tell you that no was
gong to telegraph to Union Springs, Auburn, New
York or elsewhere that HanIan going to win,
words TO that erectf A. No, sir, never heard any
such remark made
Q DID J. H. Brister send many dispatches from
Capadaf A. didn't see MIN send any; think he
sold me he sent one TO George Watson, but I'm not
o. Do you know what this despatch saids A No
q. What other dispatches did J. II. Brster send
from Canada2 A. don't know
q. Do you know OF his receiving any dispatches
there At ailf A. do not
Courtney then testified that he had other
lespatcn TO from brlsler OF any moment; that he
nothing oil Bris:er telegrapning IN cipher till
sr ne got home, nor did he know oil nis writing any
..fy A scRApEn But cosyrDEsr.
q. Did you write any letter from Canaaaf A. Yes
elner 10 Lowry, but IL was OF account; told him
Thought we nad got ourselves IN u scrape on that
course, but thought could win.
Courtney then SAID that since coming home he
heard one Perry ana Billy. .Cosgrove, Of Auburn, had
been In New York before tae race, but that he does
not believe thar Perry bet had ne any commun-
cation with insm before the race. Now, IN tell you
what think. l think there may have been dss
patches sent from Montreal with my pane signed 10
th-m
Q. Did you destroy any letters or dispatches re-
esveo BY you while In Canada? A. No, cir (em-
pnaticaily).
Q. Where those you receivedf A. They are here,
all got
lMr Courtney produced abou, ten letters all friendly
and containing nothing seemingly suspicioua.)
Q. These are all. are iheyY A. lnoss ell,
thing II have any others they are all IN the same
Tone
NEVER ASKED TO SELL
g. Did you have any oder from any person
whatever or any persons together, of any money or
any other induce ment II you would lose the race
A. No, sir; I've never hsa any ofer oil any money or
anything else to lose this race.
Did any one ever come to you before the
ana hintas any such tnlosf A. on, yss, hundreds
Q. WHAT did they sayf A Well, they didn't dare
TO talk 10 me about 1t. They said how mucn could
make II would 1850 It
q. Tell me one sucn person who came In Cansdaf
A. Wen, there was NOBODY ever came near me n
Canada IL came up here Al nome just In ordinary
1
SIMPLY mean general talk, not only ON this race but
on every other race ever went into.
q Had you any offer OF a part or the whole OF
ile $4,000 put up Dy the citizens OF Montrehr A
Q. Did you ever have any talk with Hanian where
else coud hear what was saidf A. We've
met out on the river aud TAXED about our aad
how weli they carried us, but never where plenty
couldn't see US wcwere always risnt on the course,
you kaow where we cou,a see every move.
q DID he ever say anything 10 you about allowing
nun 10 win or words to tnat enectf A. No, he never
asked me 70 ie' him wn Ine race or ever TAXED
about winning H. The httle cuss, ne thought he
could boat me easy.
O Nor any hint from him In that direction ? A.
q. Nor from any member OF the Hanan Ciupf A.
q. Did Hanlan ever tell you that he thought you
could ourow MIN, or words TO that cnecty A. No,
Iievs ever thought so either, whats more.
Courtney Continued that he pet sl350 in all, $500
OF which was his own; that $500 went as already
mentioned aud the rest a pool oox
Y VINO put itlns A. James II. Brister
q Where was TINS pool ooIi A. In Montreal or
Lach ne some here. didnt SEQ IL didn't SEQ
them sell any pools there at all.
q. Hsw you know he put II In? A. 1 don't
Know. I've got hts word for Il; that's all know
baveD't got II back.
q. How much you offered TO sol the Saratoga
racef A. 1 was Offered a tnno OF the money that
tp tue pool box.
Q. How mucn was tbat' A heard si5o,ooo or
mUre.
O. who maze you this onerf A. don't want TO
answer
q. Did you have any other offer It you would sell
that racer A. No; tnink not.
q. Did you ever know James II. Br's'cr 70 hedge
A. No, SIR, never.
O How much did nc tins with hanian
A. / couldn't tell you. i think he had between
"a 900 ana So 600 In ali. 1 only know what ne tells
sus n | saw MIN mskc any bet I've forgotten II.
The HanIan party that were there had thousands OF
dollars where we did have q big copper cent
They Tried every way tney could TO make me- the la
vorils. livery man VINO came TO my quarters IRON
Canada was headed OF and held back from oettins