The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-12-10
SURPRISING RETELATIONS.
Interview Betweea the Hon. III Perkins and
the Hon. Simon Cameron.

HARRISBURG, Dec. In a long talk with
Senator Simon Cameron to-day in His grand
old residence on the banks u the Susquchanna
commenced by asking him what he thought Of
Mr. Hayes's new departure.
What departure - asked the Senator. as he
looked quIz2icaily from under a pair OF scrog-
~, Seward-hkc eyebrows
Why. his departure from the Southern pa.
ciacatory policy which no has carried out since
his inauguration, and his return to Grants
rigid manner Of governing the South. re-
piled.
don't take any stock in Hayes nj all. sir"
replied the senator. stcrnly. Il dislike him so
that wouldn't speak 10 him. He went back on
his iricnds-the men who made him. Hayes
says Grants policy was a failure. It's no such
thing Grants policy put Hayes in the White
House, while Hayes's stupid policy has lost
every Southern State TO tho Republican party"
Can Hayes be a candidate again - | asked.
No. sir. Hayes IL dead He's went over 10
the rcbels He killed Chamberlain. n soldier
ana Repubicnn, and nut that rebel. Wade
Hampton. who shot my brother James through
Did bpld Wade HesmptCn personally kill your
bio that Wade Hampton. who captnred CSl.
Cameron, my brother. took a cnrbine. while my
brother was a, prisoner ,unqrmed.. took de-
hh'Ihte aim and shot him dead. And this ras-
cal, continued the Senator. this rascal Ilamp-
ton. Hayes Went. and made Governor of South
OF tho York Ertniag Rrcoa saw Hampt '9n
shooting brother james. Didn't you. Mr. Gun
nlson 2 asked the Senator, turning 10 Mr.. c.,
. Yes, senator" replied Mr. Gunnison. Il.
among others, saw Wade Hampton kill Col.
carry the lleloss body 81 the Colonel into the
farm house near the church"
Changing the subject, asked Senator Cam
fftll
OK Grant don't want TO be President; /
,.o, Bqt the report comes that Grant says he
Woull MOI Joel ni liberty To refuse"
- don't care what the report SAYS. know
Grant. Hes boon here with me a good deal. / tell
you that Grant don't want the nomination"
II Grant should b. nominated would his
habits ho an digestion 10 his being President p
Not ut all. Grant takes little whiskcy now
ana th"n, nnd 50 do |; hut that don't make him
q drunkard. Grant is n TEMPERATE eater. and
If !akng good care of himself"
low about Blaine ~
Bnno would suit me-. ! think no would
f9rry NV England, too. He's strong mnn.
II ne hadh been strong man Credit MObilier
YOU'D nave Killed him, MS It did ColfaX. but
Blaine has outiiyed the Mobilier business aud
lnink he stands good chance 10 De tho Re-
publican nominee lie would carry out Grant
2ld policy. ana retstablish the Republican party
What arc Conking's chances?"
Good; He's got the great State Of New York
hehlnd Mn OF course. hc'll bo returned 10
strong NJ blaine, ms he is not handicapped with
the old Credit Mobller scandal"
sam Tildon p
Don't mention him he's dead"
asked.
No never; I wouldn't. desplse him. Now.
there are sixteen candidates for the Post ONCE
down qt York, and they all want me to help
them, but ! tell them that my Influence with
this Administration amt worth a -. No
Post Offices now days for me-"
=, suppose yougot anything you wanted from
Grant,
o.. NJ STR; I never got but one appointment
What was that p asked.
Well there was n Captain in the army whose
former servant got n commission in a Niger
regiment One day the Captain met the ser
Want and rudely tore his straps Of heard Of
i ana went and got Gen. Grant to appoint
lhnl hpt0ln 20 another position
to?5n ''' '0' ''"'' "''' "pl'''''V'
Why. got. Grant TO appoint him to tho
And Grant did itY"
- Yes, Grant did il; and that nigger-hating
captain Is a hQokkecper i'm n sNwmll upon tho
west branch OF the Susqurhannn uOw-where 1
used to rqlt down Logs whom was n boy,"
We he got to be Major in 2 colorcd rcgi-
"ehi' ELL PERKINS.