The sun., 1878-11-11
you in New orissn, at the time Of the election, ASO.

I
arrived. and saw him Immediately and had interviews
with him. probably, the average, two day, while
| was IN the city
o.-wcrc those interviews between you and him alone
or were there other persons present. A.-They were
alone.
Q-wore they intentionally secret Al presume So
| Q-whcrc were they usually heldi A-Nos,ly az the
rooms where he lodged, on Custom House street and
sometimes In his private room In the Custom House.
V-hAd he private room In the Custom Iouse' A.
Yes SIR
V-Then these interviews with him were at his room
In the custom House aud at hs lodgings A-Nes and
| ~ the Capitol tun. saw lin several tunes there.
o-when did the csuvGss by the Returning hoard bo.
GIN Al cannot tax my memory exactly with i, bur
tnk It commenced somewhere about the ian or 18Th
nf November.
Q-Ancr the canvass began. did YOU WELLS as be.
tore. two or three times day. Ayes. s.r
V--Dd h" tell you what he hal been doing during the
/ day A-tlVuerafy.
Q--And did he advise with you about it, A-Yes sir
| Q-And did you advise him al,oi Ain respects
| fdL
| Ayes.
Q.The canvass then going on was 1t nO,' A.
| Yes
o.--And returned TO New Orleans on the 10th Of No.
vemberf A-On the Goth or sO,h
| 1-Dh You then soe him. Ayes. sir Immediately.
| V-Dh you then report to him what had been done
| under this letter. Al did.
o.-Hcw long did you remain In New orleans after the
2"tl or aD,h ot November! Al remained there until
/ tie oh of Jauuary.
Q-Dnins all that time did yon have FREQUENT inter
views with wKlLs' A-Yes. while was In the citv.
bus was engaged part Of the tlme Red RIVER was
there a couple Of weeks think. taking testimony In
cotton claim
o--You acting there As an AGENT OF the Govern.
mentf Ayes. sir
Q-ENcept for that absence were YOU In New orleans
all the time A.--Ics.
o-Ani while in New Orleans did you have interviews,
| with Walls very oiteni Avery often
o-fwo or three times day. A.-SOmetiuIes as often
! ssthat
o-Dm they oil relate to the ssme genersl subJec, Of
| the Returning Boardf A-Gencraily.
Il.Vx tattxf feffe g., Ne
ten snce the elcctiout A-There were three letters
written one you have here. and there others
one OF them TO and TO senator wrsr
Qwhere those two ictters-tic one to YOU which
has not been produced and the letter to senator wEy'
AThose nters not In my possession. but they
under my CONTROL and are ordered here aud expect
! them To oniorrow.
c-whs, are their da,es' Al think they are dated
on the day that the letter already befor. the
mittee Is daied-the 2Oth OF November They were all
written s,the same time. nearly the time They
wcrc not all written exactly Al the hour Two Vt
them were written At the private uicr OF GOV Wits
the custom HOUSE aud the which the Committee has
before was written At The state House Later ;he
| day
o-peiai the convsr.Aton which you had with Mr
wits the iight before. Afhaf conversauou In
ence TO The political situation and tie dicues Of the
Returning Board. That the nisht OF ieth No
Ncmher Gov Wtlts proposed that should TO Wash.
ngton ard explain the situation. and he concluded he
would write genera lctt'r 10 crcdeutiai. and
snohcr letter to irend Of p In Washington city whcn
arrived Office the morning 0i tue letters
finished, bat open on his desk aud he writ
g the other TIE letter which open brought away
with oisn that is. the letter TO mys.ln. the other
road aud h~ or do know which, seaied up. and
its sa scaicdGp
o-rhat sav, the to whom' A-The one to
senator wFsr
c.-Thst has bsen dehveredf A-That has nc yer
hecu delivered.
o-rcwhom va. the other letter addros.ed' 4 -rom
0-What ala Mr. Nttls toll you that he wished IN he
dv,rci Ale ,ad that his iuc In danger. that he
had very difficult lob hani. that he did not how
he could get through H. that II h. did get through H. he
certain they would k.l him. lie aM at the same
time hIi \, raai, t pos BIT aai ls ,oo ~,
n. si.i a.es, le ,-a' ooa,s ,si',d jo,T
y The risK cl What A-the risS Of making the re
turns.
p-wha, did he say wa. wanted OF him, Al do no,
tank that he stated that anything wanted Of hm
but he stated what he proposed 10 de.
Q--Whst did h- say he proposed 10 do Al DO not
rscuect the exact Language. because had many
ceuyerSa,ion, ,hat an afrAid would miN themu
o-ih,ues,e thr .uh.,ance oi &C. \ lie stated that
IL would sc 90 .cf,r h. part, uaAins the returns ia
favor VI ii,r's but H hs Tgattf re. H' f io' hs
! i-sii fs-
o-whst did he say Was ii.s actual vote Of Ioaiaana
An siui n" @. aasiiy e.islAf~i Asaey. md
iafG tseh ,as Ada D. Ag,ds. that he az i,sS
vA,sn nssfsg osf that u the vote hsd Deen
small he could handle It essly but that a. It WAS the
probabilities were he would have g. nroW New Or.
! lcaus IN order 10 set the requisite number.
Q-How did he say he expected to throw on, New or.
! ieansf 4 ny c,sAsisy out
! Q-On whist ground did he say he couk throw out or
mishi throw oui. New Orleans Al thought It was
| ~ ~. graaii af ..,,s,i'..
/ y What did ne A~k WA tn dOf A He asked inc 10
some "n to Washington aud nnurnial men here and
tog,t protection tor hin and 10 NhsA.s - osh gs
! me tni,',af ~ pss- y h'ss'-iry D. sf.yg HIM
Odd be SAy NhHt amount OF money De wanted
AB- ~ tl'' flsp o,ghi hnr. s'.p'sr 81 sL+i'fs
/ V-In your conversations with WttLs did he Sny
hng about the smount which he wanted Tor the different
menl-rs of Tie Board' N. ~ Hai As Sasisi ,s
L'ns't aad ANpAasoS ~ slt s2Us."o "p'"'
owhat sl.e' lie ssid that he wanted som'
smaller for the coofcl men.
! Q-low did he designate them A-he said that he
wanted much ASpfNros and himself aud fo
ns nggsr
o-pn he sAy how much he wanted for them A
NJ. sir, bu, tho deA was some small amount / So no
know that he used the vord small
o-Did wEsin these conversations say any thing abou
What he would do with his party that he would tloa
them. something OF that sor' Ale said II theS dix
not treat ham rlglii, he would beat them.
When MADDOX reached Washington h'
called upon GRANT and DoS CAMERON, with
the credentials from WELLS above men
toned.
o-To whom DID YOU show them, A i showed III,
LONG letter addressed TO msio the President showed
20 secretary CANNRoS and showed Il 20 several ~
friends In Washington city. The short letter showed,
tlthh, TO only one or parties, friends OF mine
I Q--i 90 not ask you for any conversation with tn
President hut AK to state the conversation whic
you mai with the Secretary ol War. II made not
thoss que stiuns they asked yesterday on
about Pre- sdrnt and Secretary War
80 that msht not b. mistaken
: Q-sa,e your interview with the Secretary OF wai
| rrescntsi to ne by Mr. WtLLs told him Nr WALLS
rcqurs,-that hv wanted large amount of money. III
I ! Secretary declined H.
The following Is the credential whicl
MADDOX presented to GRANT and CAMERON
Ns~ oRitASs, La. Nov. 70, 1876.
NJ JosrrH H. MADDOX
, EndersamiH- the political condition OF matters her
from association with both political parties, aud fren
of the President ami Government ofce officer wOul
Nnot be- considered part of your duty at
Washington with - htils delay possible and place h'
lore the President the condition and impending danger
OF the situation should you conclude ON prompt acto
| In tho premises allow me to commend ou 10 Senate
MIsT who IL my friend. and with whom trust YOU Wi
: freely comnuncSs. N0ur hsdient servant.
) ! } MADISON Wglts
. Although the letter to WEST, then Sen
ator from Louisiana, was not brought be-
I fore the Committee until later date, this /
the proper place for il, as showing the gam
, Of WELLS. in seeking to get million fror
I the Republicans before trying the Demo
Gratis. Here is the precious document;
II NEw ORIKlSs La. No, "a. 1879
Nv DraH SENATOR regret not seeing you when here
wanted 10 say much to you which would be at least in