New-York tribune., 1878-06-25

Secretary OF the Treasury then; don't think the Gov
ness to attend to accepted the position because IL was
offered. aud held 1t only for two months .-u,,o, ,
Odd You render any service 10 the tOVerbmeht,
A-Oh YES sir did went up there very OIteh uhtll
got tired OF It used 10 go In room Win lols O e
in IT, where did writing went there almost eN-
cry DAY when had nothing else TO DO laugnteIli oena
tor West, believe, was good enough 10 nave ue "p-
o-Did you at one time prosecute claim before the
British Mixed Commission here Ahes siIl ~ od 7
of my mother, In 1874 NV mother was Brtlsh' anu !
also until lost my individuality by marrying an Auier-
Mr. Butler-Ncw that you have got through viii tell
You about your letters that have here ask9% a ,he
Governor kellogg If he had any letters IN regaIG 20 R % IL
election and he handed ME package OF papers anu III "
Witness|Why DIDN'T you give them back TO hint
Genert 4 Butler-Beoausc had use Tor theIh;
Witness-But you did see they were persOnaii
6S W5s1TheS saw Won SS had no business them
and you ought have advised MIN about ~. VHo"hn'
'GS By u'S Mr. ssprngerDRhere niger were You 6orni AIN
Glasgow. ~. o-,.,,s9 -
Old YOU OF your mother live there during the war
o.|Ho% much was claimed against tho British Gov.
er6mentl Was IL not about s65OOOi - 9 ro had
General Field, the Attorney GeheiAI OI oui "''0' ~
owas one Of the claims prosecuted for Illegal ar
see in the report Of the cases that cOmmlssion
k-What has that 10 do with our CohnsSiy}n ~ ION
Will give you biographical SAo'on VI "'''' -
desire. lLaughterl .-.. Too ,o,,r mother .
Q-were you witness in that case for your in0Inel
Al believe was. had power OF attorney 20 P'o90
cute for her. My father wasn't living at iha tiIo ,
o-Iiow much was awardedi Al think about
F1,EoG FGir SnrngeT-That rr is all / have to ask
Tac NIness-Then move We ADJOURN li'luSn''iI
GENERAL BoYNION oS THE STAND.
General H. v Boynton then sworn aud examined
He testified in reply questions by Mr. McNahoh as
follows
General Boynton-In the course OF long conVerSa-
tion had with the President in relation to various
matters had conversation oi aD0ut Two MINUTES WIN H
In, an tbe subject OF Anderson. The appointment had
been announced some days hclOFc Aa '' ",
an OuiO man. and there had been tuIlosltg
to know who he ami why he had been appointed.
ana W!t.,n . U"J Jitb tbc President there had been
statement published IN some Democratic uewsLHfar
10 tie eH ct Anderson had been engaged dsrc uta-
~ i'm piaYipuiating the yoe Of of h1 parishes Of
,spn ana that cquently he nad been appUmtedby
tuo Pr sdeut that account laskCd the Ff'lcuJ now
A. hammered that this appointed and Be rcpl ed
had peen aupuiutcd on account Uf his 60
tle partv that he one who had Ushtd SOuu drdl
for thr uarty IN Louisiana and then called ms aten-
non TO inns charge that had been made ln that paper,
ANA the President, without denying OF saying ahylhng
with reference to that point made said THAI De- dd not
lIuuk hc would receive the appointments, or that he
would retain the Office That Was i1r amount OF u aud
me conversation diopgrd ON mat cannot give tne
wear ago and Il was quite an lHeiaonlai ma matter. 9
/ asked the President " ms commission hdl p,cu re-
yoSc, and he made the same reply: - do not tIluh be
Will remain office" Ths was very lew days after the
By Mr Cox-Havc you compared that date IN June
WIKI The letter witen to thc tate brpHrtment a5AhI
toe holding or ioyuE ug ol Anderson, AZ poldlntuti a
rs -r; heard was % De called before tius com
mt,o with reference 10 tNe matter 80" 20 30 stated
Western newspaper ana went 10 nay hIg' ah" HA'I
TIE date Of that conversation and te a,e ui The letter
to the STATE Department. WulcA Was .e !O,h O, may
When asked the President " AhdtfsuH.s commission
had been revoked, ana Dee maur the same ieA. sup
posed hc mad Gono out o. Occ Tor he reason winch Was
current IN plut, that ne htd refused % accept this
consulate fuucbIi ot his own accord, ANA lat ltIt
impression ON NY n'ua Jail Ihe ttf ft haGe ln w
Democratic paper was lIue Dht upon ,ooAlus ~ IN w
da o the letter aud the date ui ms conNc ,ai"n "lth
the President ioand tut no uad ALREADY diect'd Als
c.rutl. -7luu tu br WituheId.
~ Slr. G,Mauo"- Buf the President oid not dcuy-
Ar Reed object to suCu qur-,inn a. tbat. don't
think it should Uc asked. what hc denied 10 mater
wholly OF inference.
response 10 the statement made 10 Il 81 Nht you hd
read iu Democratic pIpcri A -iils Response was thht
he DIDN'T suppose believe that the mau would remain
in Office or noid the 0ihce lhal whs an ,h9 r,p'se
that ne made. No conversation that l nad wan lhe
President proceeded the theory that he had be,
dealing with hin ON account oI any improper service
that he had done.
BUTLER BUIIIEs THE WITNESS.
BY General Butlcr-DId you 70 up there at the Invita-
ton OF the President A.-Yes, sir.
Q--WAo introduced the topic Of Anderson. you or the
PresiIcuti Al did; and We had been talking Ola
number Of appointments lE%' nag D,rn mau, anu ] te
criticisms that bad appeared iu ihe ht"s ppeIs Hp'u
them aud asked the President how % uappe ed thai
person against whom such enarges nad Drsn n" suoa
have received an appointment dl ne iahus v lle AZ
miuistrdtion. cannot give yon the frtsliets exact
words 10 reply bu' thry were % Au,Gl .s nSE az, ~
Q-HaSe you not sad this suisianta'y-that yoh
asked tue President he came 10 MAKE the appon.-
mrnt uf such q AZ inst whom such charges were
made aud be SAID ho was possessed o SON SONG Poli.ea5
eccrrte; didn't sou the words "pultcdl secrets !
A
an moi gay 40 TO ANYBODY. me words political
cret were never used by the President, and DO not
O-Haye you never used these words ~ speaking of
it-that he President said hc was appointed on ac-
have not; and want you to understand thii 90 mol
prop Sc 10 make an, answer here tna viii reflect upon
q -WDy not, n tt is the tru,hi Al viii tell you
WHY Because propose to state exactly what took
tject pIu inc President ~ the United States. nave
told ~ substance all tnat took place botv cen the Pr,s
Q-Havc YOU given any person whatever 10 under
that the President said - you or gave YOU To- u
knowledge that u WAS not best to have made puOuc
A-NO sir; the President did not Say any yhhS oi the
Kind.
Mr. Cox Objected TO the course taken by the Demo
cratic members OF the committee. lie said there seemed
10 be desire 10 argue things and dates together
though It was determined that Il should be declared be-
fore the public step By step that part Of the committee
had convicted the President from the beginning.
Nj Butler denied. as far he concerned, any
such imputation and stated that no not 10 be af
lpcied III his course by glumOr OF ofice but would
deal with men, high low they might be. In
differently and would not ask question concerning the
President OF the United States he would not put
concerning the humblest individual in the country.
After further discussion the examination Of the wit
ness was continued as follows:
o-Uaye YOU stated that in substance as what the
President said Al may have done so:
o-Dd you state Il trulyi Al stated II truly it
reprI ali insnnaous that have not told the truth at
ali timeB aud, II necessary shall protect sell against
such ImputaOns. The rest Of this committee are gen
epep and ave treated such, but General Butler
is n rOwdy aud n the committee Will not protect me
will protect mYselL
By General Butler-You have been on intimate
terms with the President Of latei A.-NO sir do not
think have been the White House more Than hall
dozen dimes slnce President Hayess Inauguration
was out riding with the President Tor about hye hours
on the day had the conversation we have detailed
bnt never have had long a conversation with him
aimee The President talked freely TO that OCCa
SION. was critosing some Of the appointments about
which he asked me.
O-Wbep did you first hear OF the supposed Sherman
Ietter1 A.-AbOut the same time; a mere matter OF
newspaper talk.
O-Where were you when the McVcagh commission
went 10 louisiana Al was IN Washington.