The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-02-18


older families rather closely wecosd TO tho the
cries that have existed In New England for over
century, and which fornc forcbIs expression n tho
burning Of Mary Dyer At Eanvers Plains and tho
stoning OF Jesse Leo Boston Common
When the orthodox minister Al Indian
Orchard who expressed his dissent from
the OF Calvin the subject OF he'll, brought
10 Irai by his Ministerial peers was found that The
sentiments which he iostered his heserodox bosom
were lurking in tho hearts Of OF MS brethren
VINO not courageous enough to give them public
expression Then came tho great preacher Of Pym.
outh, VINO battered the walls OF Gshenna with bis
vigorous theological bastering ram, and throughout
the country men who had either personal feelings ON
the subject or religious convictions opposed 10 the
prevalent theories boldly broke away from the teach
ngs OF Calvin and Joined hands with the liberal
members OF ancient orthodoxy.
ADIRONDACK MURRAY.
A tour among The preachers OF Boston dscoses the
fact that Congregational minister OF note be-
levcs with Beecher Rev. w. H. II. Murray, formerly
pastor Of Park Street Church and editor OF the
Golden Rule has, well known, established very
liberal church, whose congregation worships 1t the
Music Hail. II was generally believed that he would
JOIN In The crusade against eternal punishment but
he does not In answer TO query Mr.. Murray said
he believed In hell but had no theory AZ 10 what the
punis hment consisted OIL
.My belief" he SAID, stouchiug the future punish
mcnt Of sinners, Is based upon ana confined to the
statements made by Jesus Himself whose words
The expression of my religious Uelief all
things II they arc pam accept them heartily, and
II they not plain 10 my understanding accept
what TO me their evident purport without wish
ing STRIVING 70 impose my Interpretation OF them
on others There passages sayings Christ
that teach there Is tuiure punishment at least
10 my understanding. may be wrong, aid hope
am Salvation does not depend entirely on faith
There are two conditions laid down-repcn lance and
Iaith. Unless ye repent and believe ye cannot DO
saycd' / am not interested in the present discus
1
sonally have reason to oe interested, as my be-
liel has been always what IL is now and will not
change Mess receive more light. accept as fun
authority to me the teachings OF Jesus, therefore my
faitn is not likely 10 be varied"
L wlrHRow.
DR., ]. L. Withrow, VINO la Ar. Murray's successor
as OF Park street Church. the fountain head OF
orthodoxy IN Boston-a church which forced Mr.. MUIR
ray ouI because oil his hberaisy-made the following
statement IN writing
~ believe as the Protestant Evangelical Church,
which has never by any one Of hor SYMBOLS OF faith
held that either hell burns with elemental dre or that
children dying IN infancy are lost or hss all heatnsns
The authoritative utterance Of The Church has
been only this-'hat oil VINO rejec. God, as
He Is revcaied TO them, and refuse Him
homage, aud continue to do SO, will IN the
words IF Jesus. go away unto everlasting punish
menI' Whether these words DO taken literally or
metaphoricaIly they indicate suffering And as those
who mold that this punishment will have end IN
repentance restoration have shown by Scrip
ture or sufficient whom and the end Ia TO
be- reached, ] am unwilling 10 promise myself or
sale Judges the bench OF the earth. They
for reIrbution on those who njure U.s. They shelter
son. husband or lover. however bad or abusive they
be, II they be ours They would deal differently
with the son, husband or lover of another"
Dr.. Webb, of the Shawmdt Congregational Church,
and DR.. HerricK, Of the Mount vernon Church. also
two prominent Congregatonalsts, entertain views
similar to Murray ana Withrow Thus It will DO
that the orthodoxy OF Boston iB nrm IN the latin Of
future punishment.
DIR. GEORGE 9. LoRRIAxR
DR.. George c. L0rrimer, ono VI the most prominent
as we'll as learned the Baptist faith, states his
position bus briefly -
believing tina. tho Bible contains a revelation OF
the divine will on matters pertaining 10 the
10 accept IL deolsrss,ons as aaal on this
that. / lett 10 the surInisngs Of my own mind
the promptings Of my own sentiments, having no
other data 10 base conclusion on, l should expect
that at some future time the reign OF sin ana suffering
would entirely cease. But thorough knowledge OF
spirit, forces the that there Is promise
OF posthumous saivatton wish II were otherwise,
but one whose duty It 10 to expound book accord.
vsrsble as tho laws Of nature, am shut up TO this
dreary view. The hell question is simply ono Of
exigcsiA"
Dr. Lathrop. Universalst ana editor Of the Uni
aid not believe in future punishment. by any means
whya simply because i ls not rev called 10 the Now
doctrine OF endless punish ment He would have
nounced Is In an unmistakabie manner. II 10 not 10
be found in the Mosaic law. Tho Gospel means 'good
tidngs II the doctrine OF eternal punish ment
true It Is not likely that II would have been kept back
for 1000 years.
apo you believe In any future punishmcnts''
81 believe IN what may perhaps DO formed future
discipline and education. Christ wit our saviour
in tho next world well Inia See Corinthians
". Every man will receive that measure OF sauca.
tion and discipline that u required 70 mako OF him
ROW Dr. Miner tho great Temperance lecturer and
agitator also Unversalist holds substantially tho
ARCHBISHOP wILLlAMa
His Grace the Most Reverend Archbishop Williams
eraciously favored your correspondents with an au-
thoritative statement OF the Roman Catholic doctrine
All those who died condition Of grievous
lost forever, but those who had stnned IN less de-
sssss Of Ssnisnmsns ana suffering unit. they had
made full reparation Tor thoir transgres-
SONS Nothing impure can enter the kingdom Of
heaven. Their term OF confinement was OF course,
measured by the degree OF their culpabiIity. The
Church did not hold TO the literal Interpretation Of
the flames OF he the fires that burn there were felt
by the souls OF the lost but the greatest punishment
The separation from the presence OF God. Tho
souls OF infants dying without baptism went pur-
gatory, because they had snned consciously but
came under the condemnation issued against the
human race In person OF Adam, and because they
had done nothing 10 earn heaven No had
right 70 satvasion.; II must be earnod. q
UNITARIAN VIEW.
Dr. c. A. BArtoi, OF the most advanced thinkers
In the Unitarian denomination, does not believe In
endless punishment 1t is contrary 10 and not
II seo,v he sand, .tnat Henry Ward Beecher Gays
his soul revots NJ the idea Of hell; but
man who breaches doctrine from which hrs soul
revolts breaches u lie. As q scholar ne 10 not
bonnd 10 believe IN that interpretation OF tho Bible.
The doctrine 10 hideous But you they do not
daro to give up because would lead TO the
Ing aside Of other doctrines and theories which
their religion IL Is Of the OF arch;
II they take II away down comes the arch"
Rev. NJ J. Savage, another Unitarian divine, who
came to Boston from Chicago, took almost precisely
the view Dr. BarIol. HIS reason and the
Bible unto 10 mako the doctrine impossible and alb
surd he would not believe II even II every chapter
contained an argument In Its favor
My theory about the Bible" he said ats that,
apart from tho reasons they give don't why
Qaid Al INN lv beca usa
they SAID IL Iregard the Bible purely human
book"
Rev. J. y. ". Ware, OF tho same denomination.
denied the sxvtence OF hell In very vigorous man
f.
''what ought TO concern u.s." ne said, sis to-day
and yesterday; tomorrow will take OF itself 1"
Bishop Paddock and Rev. Philips Brooks, the lead
ing EpIscopaian cIArgymen OF Boston, declined 10
give any opinion on the SUBJECT