New-York tribune., 1878-03-30

tested have lived in the city for ten years; eight or
niue years ago had short conversation with the Com
modore at Saratoga.
Repeated Offers to show that the Commodore paid the
witness at least twenty visits to consult with her about
ciairvOyancc excluded.
The witnessn these visits made during the last four
years he referred to members of his family; he often
talked about his two wives; / was sent for in May.
before the Commodore died to attend him;
paid at least a half dozen visits the first time
people came in, but the Commodore told me 10
have nothing say 10 any of them; the only marked
servant with which to buy matches; this call Marked
because l thought If had been rich mau 1
don't recall any who there at that time Once
when gentleman was present with the Commodore, @ re-
they held conyersaon IN regard to heaven, ana re,
ferred 10 me-. They were giving deserlpuoh 9n o an
They were speaking Of heaven and ne glorles tne
forgiveness OF snsyou all know what they say Oh sue
things . -, ,,
Dwell, state what they said. Al don't feel Ike
preaching This person had been giving consolation TO
asl ed where heaven was. lie asked me what thought
about it, replied that Christ said heaven was within
you; did not look toward anyone Tor II; looked
within. He said, THAT is good answer"
Q-They did not reach heaven in your presence A.
The witness-Once he wanted TO know this: will the
Lamb p / told nim did not know. He asked me what
to gain Heaven. sad "By their works
spiriiuaIr He said have pTaved often on this sub
iect' told him had found that prayer brought
a loaf of bread work always did it. He pressed me
further but told ni If was 10 preach as well as treat
should charge him double price (LaughterI lie per
sisted and asked what thought OF the occupations
In heaven. told him thought they varied, In
tnis life. He asked me believed in God sitting on
great white throne. told him my conception of God
could not he expressed; God who could he conceived
would he too small for him to worship, for either
He then talked about sin and playing harp / said
You could build railroad great deal better than you
could play On harp" lGreat laughter. He said he
was airad that was doomed to be lost. LaughcrI l
said, as notliug lost N natureas even the spar
rows were Dumberd-I should be saved.
He talked mostly about these matters when were
entirely alone. did wish 10 talk about these things
IA when first came there the Commodore said 10 me
Mrs Clarke, desire you Ia treat me nagDricay; con
fine yourself that, and unless ASK you don't want
you mention sprltuasn." Soon after he began t.
talk about spirituGsin. | told him / seusitlVe-a
sccptic-and could not talk about those things
Odd auy gentleman, In any OF these vlsits address
to you the inquiry, What are you here fOri" Ayes :
IL while was going from the COmniOdore's room ;
can't tell who IL think saw him here ths morn
ing.
Mr.. Lorl-If Mr.. Clinton will sit down the witness
may be able TO identity the person in this
The Court prevailed ON MIR. Clinton TO take his seat
behind which sat william ii. Vanderbilt The witness
pointed Mr.. Schel who she SAID lesombcd the man
slightly bu tins man was very gray but looked younger
than Mr. Schell When her attention directed To
Mr. Vanderbilt, she said positively. IL is not he"
The SurrOgateYOu forget the possibility of his dye
ng his hair in the meantime. tLauclter.I
As the witness seemed much exhausted by the eXaIn
nation, the Court adjourned until Tuesday next.