Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1878-06-12

tomorrow next day; would like very much to come
Set hom e am Obliged to you ali the same me- as # we
| had succeeded. Marks will be here for time yet,
c. B. DARRALL.
To Jas. f. Anderson.
| Ques.-What want to get from you now
| is, whether as long as there was any show for
| you, Senator Mathews pressed your claims so
| far as he gave you to understand? Ans
| Yes, that is either Packard or myself; he was
undoubtedly In favor of appointing one of
| US.
| Mr.. M'Mahon read the following dispatch
WASHINGTON, April 10.
To James E. Anderson. Office of the North American,
| Philadelphia:
| Best come over to-ni7ht We sent passes Thurs
| day certainly. c. B. DARRALL.
| Ques.-What papers did you refer to here
| Ans.--All the papers he had.
| Cues What was to be done with the pa
pers when he came over with them? Ans
| Now, | will state that these letters, nor any
/ assurance that Mathews had given, l had not
| seen-did not know they were IN existence
| and the thing was coming pretty close, and,
| for my own satisfaction, l wanted to know
| whether Anderson had any paper by which
we could cause Mathews to render sufficient
assistance [2reat laughter; had never seen
any document, and desired, for my own sat
| isfaction, to see it; he SAID ne had been in
| formed from Democratic source that an offer
had been made from parties In New York
| Tilden or his agents there-and that copies
had been furnished to the New York Sun
and to Republican senator.
| Ques.-Who was the senator? Ans--Ihe
| Republican senator from New York.
| Ques.-Was it Senator Mathews who said
copies had been furnished? Ans.-I am not
| positive whether Senator Mathews told me
or | told him that the New York San had
| copies, but know | informed him that had
an intimation from a gentleman that Ander-
| sons attorney had offered to furnish these
| documents to Tilden or his agents, and that
at the interview that we had together he told
me he had already been informed of that
purchase; he knew at least from me, aad
| knew from Anderson, that he had furnished
copies of the letters in December sometime
it is December that speak of-and that the
| New York san had copies of them.
| Ques-Tbe New York senator had got
| copies about what tune? Do you remember?
Ans.-I do not know; l think in November
| or December.
| referring to took place at the time you had
| written of these earlier letters? Ans.-Yes,
| sir; about the eighteenth of March.
Qdes-Tnis dispatch is dated April 10,
| 1878? Ans.-Anderson never offered to show
; me the papers, and he came over on the re-
ceipt of that telegram, and showed me just
what he had, letters, etc, from Mathews.
Senator Mathews told the witness that he
had information from a Democratic senator
that these letters Of his had been offered to
Tilden or TIlden's agents IN New York, and
that they did not consider them worth the
purchase. think he said he had it from
Democratic source. | am positive that they
were the only letters ever mentioned between
Mathews and myself, and he said they would
amount to nothing, as far as be was CO n
cerned He said he was satisfied that Sher
man had never written any such letter, and
from his talk | was pretty we'll satisfied that
Mr. Sherman had not written any such let
ter.
Oues.-Still the understanding was that if
you got the collectorship that the copy was to
be given up? Ans.-1 do not know that
there was any understanding. 1t is hardly
fair to Senator Mathews to put it In that
shape. Mathews said if they got a suitable
man Anderson was to be satisfied. He was
threatening to make such exposures as would
unseat Mr.. Mathews. He thought he ought
to give up all his claims. He cared nothing
about the letters there were out against him,
and all he wanted was copy of the Sher-
man letter. Of course | never stated to An
derson what Mathews said about his not con-
siderlng them OF value, Or anything of that
kind.
Ques.-Did not you regard those as a sort
of leverage-an important matter-on the
| surrender of which Senator Mathews was to
| be satisfied to work In your behalf: whether
you did not act, in all this negotiation, on the
! supposltion that the Sherman letter was AN
important and valuable document, which was
| to be surrendered to Senator Mathews when
you were appointed collector? Ans.-Well
| sir, my letters to Anderson, of course, will
| show that | considered, because Anderson
| represented to me that he was oound to do
| something, and all that kind OF thing, and |
| didn't want 1t to come out, and ct course my
| letters were showing at that time that these
gentlemen did not want the scandal or I'M
| pleasantness of the contents OF any of these
| documents being known.
| Ques.-When you spoke about Anderson
| and Anderson's documents, what converse
ton did Mathews have with you as to Ander-
| SON? Ans.-Well, we spoke of Anderson at
| two or three different intervals; he said to
| me that he felt great sympathy for him and
| desired to do something for him, and had
| done all he could for MIN. Witness further
! testified that Anderson told him Sypher had
| threatened him with Indictment In Louisiana
unless he gave up these documents.
By the Chairman-This reference in this
| letter-what | heard from Potter-was it not
| my mentioning to you that some person had
gwen me the same information that you had
| given me about the Sherman letter? Ans
! What you informed me of In the first inter-
| view in the house of representatives was that
! Sypher had seen some one representing Til
den in New York.
Qaes.-And had made the same communi-
cation that you had made to me? Ans.-Yes,
sir.
Ques.-That your news was not absolute
news to me, for | had heard the same things
| before? Ans.-Yes, sir.
Ques.-By what you say here, you did not
mean that | was negotiating for any paper?
Did you? Ans.-Oh, no; you represented to
me that these parties had gone over to New
York; 1t appears to me that you gave I'll
den's name, or to the folks in New York; my
inference was that they had gone over to en-
deavor to give things
Ques.-I think | gave you to understand
that did not represent TIlden in any way /?
Ans.-I don't know that you said word
about that, but my impression then was that
you were not friendly to Tilden.
Ques-In all the early part of the winter,
from the time you first came on from New Or
leans, had you any doubt In your own mind
that there was an a=tda letter from Mr.. Sher-
man? Ans.-I had no reason to doubt it,
| because Anderson had at the same time told
me and Mrs. jerks had said so. Of course
knew nothing further than that.
Ques-You always spoke as if you believed
| it? Ans.-Oh, | did believe it at the time
| did not suppose he had any reason to tell
me anything but the truth.
| Mr.. 81 'Mahon-In one of these letters you
1 referred to parties negotiating In New York.
| Didn't you see Anderson shortly afterward
1
said that he had the papers and would keep
! them In his own possession.
| Ques.-Did he admit he was negotiating or
| did he deny it? Ans-He did not say he
was negotiating, but he said his attorney had
| been to New ork; he said he had obtained
| the papers from his attorney and would keep
| them In his own possession.
! Adjourned.
Mathews Not Heard from Vet.
| The Potter investigation committee held a
| secret session this evening with reference to
| the subpoena served on Senator Mathews, to
which no response has yet been made. Sew
eral of the Democrats expressed an opinion
| that the senator would damage himself more
| by disobeying the summons than by appear
| ing before the committee; and were, there
fore, opposed at present to reporting
| to the house for it's action. The matter OF
Senator Mathews has been postponed until
tomorrow, at the instance Of Representative
Cox, of Ohio.
| More Witnesses.