The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-07-22

the country with great prestige and this prestige
would certainly give them an advantage In the next
Presidential election Mr.. Fish thought IL was too
soon TO predict who would be the republican cand-
date Az to the democratic candidates no believed
Thurman had ne best chance. The only trouble was
that he was bitterly opposed by the Cincinnati En-
quirer and that alter having the hardest
OF hard money men, he had abandoned his position
on the financial as well the tarn and other
questions Bayard would be probably the candidate If
he did not come from such small State. Hendricks
aDored under the disd vantage that he contested the
last nomination with Tilden-hence those that ia
vored Tilden and opposed him then would oppose
now. Tiden, Mr.. Fish thought, was not likely to be
the democratic candidate. The opposition to him In
his own party far too strong. Tho Cincinnati En-
quiyer, probably the leading democratic paper in
ONO said bitterer and more con,smptuous things Of
Tilden than said by any republican paper and In
New York and other States the opposition TO Thdsn
was equally violent Mr.. Fish inclined to the opinion
that tho democrats would probably take some
compromise candidate ut the last moment.
PRESIDENT.
$40 you regard 1t very probable that the demo-
crats will have the next PRESIDENT"
mo. think that the republican party has still
very good chance to carry the next Presidential
election. II the democrats should gain both
selves very strong the South but II the coasoida
ton OF the South for the democrats is pressed too
much the North may rally round tho republican
party. Remember that OF the old free States tho
democrats in the last election only carried four-New
York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Indiana"
GENERAL GRANTS CHANCES.
"As against either OF the democratic candidates
whom you nave named, how would Grant rum"
General Grant has still a very large following"
cal spieao all
tatingly.
Gin spite OF everything" Mr.. Fish interrupted,
with emphatic earnestness General Grant has stu
a great hold upon the country. He could get from
the democrats such votes other could get
Al the same tno admit that he would lose certain
republican votes; but remember that IN 1872 no had
TO encounter the same opposition aud overcame 1t
| easily"
| Mr.. Fish lit new cigar and tho conversation
brano he'd off to more immo date topics
''What do you think of the removal Of Arthur and
| Cornell, Mr. FlshY''
An UNwisE MEASURE.
II do not think 1t was wise measure" Mr.. Fish
responded, with deberation, "and do not how
| It is going TO help the adm, u stration."
ls It not intended 10 doieat Gonklings re- election
! to the Senator"
~ suppose that 1t Ia. and presume that tho gen
eral suppostion that is blow aimed Conkling is
correct. Well. It may have the intended eHect-it
may defeat his election but again, this persecu-
ti0n Of man by powerful In istratIon often
has the opposite enecI OF strengthening instead
| Of destroying him. Mr.. Conklipg IL . very strong
man-nobody denies that-and he certainly has a
large following among the people OF the State OF Now
York "
| ''wers these removals lawfully made, you think ?"
''Thsy clearly evasions OF the spirit OF the
constitution, which gives the senate tho concurrent
right 10 judge OF the ntnoss of candidates Office
President hayes nominated for office OF Collector
pure, high minded, excellent gentleman, against
whom q word said, and yet the senate
fused to confirm MIN. II Mr. Hayes wanted TO sup
plant General Arthur by another Collector he had
pie time to have sent his name TO the Senate while Il
session. But oy his waiting till tho Senate has
adjourned, that body, which had already expressed
itself opposed to the removal OF General Arthur
deprived OF rights which is unIor-
tunate. At tho same time should say that General
Merritt will prove an efficient public officer. He has
been tried in public position and Will IN the future
a. he has heretofore done" l.Ne
'wss this stop violation of civil ser-
vice reform rules adopted by the Presidentrn
yIsH's coSrEMrr.
| Mr.. Fish's sereneiy placid face assumed q most
significant expression. az have looked hopefully tor
some Manifestations OF real c,vi service REFORM"
| these few words as they we're said. ..t
Your CORES pondent asked whether In the judgment
OF Mr. Fish the President had the right forbid OH
Vt the government participating political meet
ings or conventions
| CONTRACT KINDS.
Mr. Fish replied:--"This may sui be regarded q
question Of contested executive right the other
day letter from Secretary schurz oficial in
which the Secretary, believe, told him plainly that
his time his and he could do with II what he
pleased. IL this is SO why should IL not
be in o,hers9 Tho government employs a certain
| official and pays him much for the fulHi.
ment of certain duties these duties fulfilled the con.
tract there ends and II he desires TO spend his oven
ings at political meetings now can tho government
prevent h9 The rule could not be enforced even II II
were wise one, for 1t Is by necessary for
pubic officer 20 DO present meeting In order to
exercise influence Its deliberations over Its
aciiors Ho may quietly sit in some adjoining little
room aud exercise Just as much influence as If he
wore at the meeting"
| MR.. vrsu OK PRESIDENT HAYES.
| "Do you think that President Hayes admiuistra-
ton thus far has been a success2'
III do not think II has been success Mr. Fish 70
| plied with perfect candor. III only knew him
slightly before his election, but have seen him several
times since no has been IN once. Here followed a
psusc.) He 10 an amiabIe gentleman. (Another
psuse.l He rs an intelligent gentleman"
| Here another pause snsued Mr. Fish, whose thor
ough good nature one OF his prominent character.
.scs was sv.ocntiy trying to say the very kindest
things about the President that no could ana yet II
was easy to perceive that his praise not OF tho
most enthusiastic character. Your correspondent
pursued
| "ls he . strong man."
HAYES LACK POWER.
Mr. Fish I,okei very much as II no was saying