The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-06-12

before the appointment Wells went TO the Secre-
tary, and. was informed either 10y himself or
some OF Them that he went there for that pur-
Smith.
Q.-i understood you to say that in this mat
ter james j.. Anderson was not anxious Tor any
place for himself last winter. A.-He Informed
phia. that he did not want any office at all. He
wanted to have Mrs. Weber appointed lady
Inspector OF Customs. He mentioned. among
other names, gentleman named Rnndley.
think there were not moro than two or threo
altogether. They were worthy people. think
he said this nah jerks was one man that ought
Q.-What / want to get from you now ls
whether, as long as there was any show for you,
Yes, sir: that s either Packard or myself. He
was undoubtedly in favor OF appointing one Of
us.
Q.-The thing eliminated about the time you
sent this despatch that | hand you. did i not
A-Along about this time, Mr.. Packard tele--
grAphed To Mr. Anderson. What he said don't
know. know one telegram he told mo he sent.
and he was authorized TO- sign my name. 40
not remcmoer signing this 4nei pa This evidently
Mr.. Mcmahon read the despatch:
w.sniSeIoS. April 10 1879.
Rest come tonight sure. sent passes Thursday.
nIgs the papers to as made Monday or IaGslay Ger.
Q-what papers did you refer to here2 A.
To Matihcws's letters. OF which he told me he
had several. and copy, OF the sherman agree
ment that he claimed to have at that time
Q-What wns to be done with those papers.
SUPPOSE you were appointed Collector? A.-Up
to thnt time | had had no conversation with
Senator Matthews or any one as to what had
been done. When that was sent there was no
understanding that the papers were TO bc given
up at this time. nor was there any understand-
ing that | was going to be appointed.
AS the thing was coming pretty close. wanted
TO know for my own satisfaction whether An
dcrson really had anything 10y which We could
cause Mr.. Matthews to render efficient assist
ance. Great laughter. | had never seen any
had been informed from Democratic source
that an offrr had been mndc from parties in
New YORK NJ f.l.!en or his agents there-.and
that cOl JOS i4 y .u furnished to IuE NEW
YORK St'N nnd to "a Brpuhlican senator.
Q.-Who wa- that S'AltorY A-Thc Repub-
lican Senator from NoW York. So that tho dot-
umcEts. So far a- llr. Matthews was concerned.
he said, were OF litl" account.
Q.-Ma- ii senator Matthews that said copies
had boon furuishcdY A.. Senator Matthews; |
am not positive whether he told me or told
him that THE SUy had copies but know in
formed him that ha nn int ilmaion from re-
putHblc gentleman that Andgrson's attorneys
had offered 90 iurn -h these documents 10 Mr.
Tiden or his agents. and at that Interview that
We had together. he told me- hc had already been
informed Of that purchase. He knew al least
from ma. and knew from Anderson, that he
had furnished copies Of the letters ~ December
some time. and that the New York Sun had
Qp.-Thie New York Senator had sot copies
about what time-do you em,mberf, Al
don't know. ! think in November or Dccem-
her. THIS conversation took place about the
Q'-This despatch IA dated April 10. 1878 2
A,-Andcrson came over on tho receipt 4 that
ters ~ from MATHEWS. [ scut This despntll
under the impression that h" had disposed
Of the documents and had not got them al all
Mr. Matthew' told mo he did not caro- wha,
Anderson hclt. 50 far rs h" was concerned and
hc held the OpiniO n that the sherman document
eXist~n.e' IT, sai! di-tinrtIv that so far ns h.
was concerned the papers Anderson held did
| not amount to anything. am positive that wac
| the only time thes" papers were over mentioned
| between Mr.. Matthews and myself He said he
was satisfied Mr. sacrmun had mover wri,tor
any such Litter and IRON his talk | was pretty
well snt ,snol
. Did You not net ip all this neeoiiatior
was an imI urtnut and valuable dorumcut which
was t. b. -urr.AIored O. senator Matthews
when you w're appointed Collector, A-Well
/ sir ny letters t. Anderson Will OF course show
| that So considered
When you spoke about Anderson ami An
dcrsou'- do 'umcuts whW runV"rsatg % did sen
ator, Matthew haNr with you ~ T. Anderson
! A-Well. he said 10 me- that lac felt greai sym
| him. and had done all he could igr him.
| O. Look at that letter agulu. Docs u not re-
| fresh your recollection that about March 3
ISIS. you heard that New York parties might be
same story A-Ies sir
| tor Matthews and talk ed about this faet; A.
Cer'ainlyi
! O. Ia that interview dld he mol state 70 yot
| that II you were alpolnt"i Anderson ought u
give up the papers. Al $50 stated in thc ettrr
! Q.-nnd you any motives 10 state lA lhlN let
ter anything different from what really oe
| curredf A.-teriulnlN not
O.-Mho 10 ;, that Is spoken Of here in th'
| postriptP A-That was Mr.. Syph'r Mr.. An
derson had been over short time before mat
| and he told me that Dir. Sypher had thrcntene'
| him with lndirtmenl IN LOUISIANA unless h'
| gave up these DOCUMENTS
The Chairman wish 10 ask you Tow lu"S
| tons one day last January, Walklhs dpWl
| PennsyiNanla avenue. YOU gave me some IN
| formation about these matters. ana suise
| quontly told you that gentleman had callr'
| upon mt and given the same lnlnrmatlon dl'
l not Al am not positive on mat
| Q:-On that OCCASION you mentohed inc ia'
| of the Sherman d9cumeht 10 incur ilist con
| Ner-ntiont Any recoieouon Is thAt tic hrs
| conversation was IA me House
,Q-On thnt nrst otrasivh. whenever II was
dld you mention the ih'l oi me SHERMAN dOcu
mont. or on both occasions. On uoth.
| Q-At thAt ume you fchted II as IN oAlsthl
iactf A.-Oh, believed tneh that |, dld SAl9'
| because IL was theh shorly hll'I MlS' 'thk
| was here, ana supposed sHe WIS te"Ius III
| the truth-lhat she hai me document
AS not me hrst occialoh before sh
| came - Al "ould MOI nave prrn' .,
hrara IRON l1tlcI Wa1 u hUt nY ,,.. ~
| Stnrn,ar lritor
A-Nou informed me in tho first intcrvic,