The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-07-18
THE NEW ORLEANS DEMOCRAT THURSDAY. JULY IS. 1873

trouble you?
A.-Well, think the man who gave me the
money can afford it.
Q-That is the only ground on which you
AYES, sir. Laughter
Dwell, but you haven't answered my
question. Does not your conscience trouble
your
A.-Well, yes it does little. Laughter
Witness was then examined by Mr.. Cox, and
then by Mr. Blackburn, but nothing of i'm
portanCe or special interest was elected.
ALBERT s. DAVIDSON
was the next witness placed on the stand and
testified as follows in response to questions by
Mr.. Blackburn: / reside in New Orleans. ]
have lived here since 1867. | know ThOs Fl. .
jerks and W. II. Seymour have seen them
in company with each other. ] have not seen
them since 1867 or 1868.
MR.. HILL,
deputy sergeant-at-arms Of the committee.
was next sworn and questioned by Mr. Black
burn. He testified as follows: While in Wash
ing the chairman OF the committee, Mr. Pot
ter. sent me after MI. and Mrs. jerks, and after
/ had got them / took them to the witness
room, nearly opposite the committee room.
III the witness room saw Seymour. Wilder
and Dicks. / took Mr.. and Mrs. jerks in
there. As we went in the three gentlemen
we're sitting at the further end of the table
Mrs jerks went up to Mr.. Seymour and said ::
"Mr Seymour, how do you do ? When did
you get here I" Nobody introduced them.
do not remember that anybody introduced
Seymour to Mrs. jerks.
L. II. ST. MARTIN
sworn. To Mr. Blackburn-I live In Donald
sonvile Ascension parish | have acted as
sergeant~at-aTms Of this committee / heard
the testimony given by Dula. | was present
when Dula aud Weber held the interview. /
heard oil the conversation. There was no
offer made by Weber. When he first came
Weber was not there; l met him. Weber
came In, and after some talk he told Weber he
would be back that night, and went off
When he came in the evening was sitting Oh
the gallery. Weber was not in.
Dula told me he thought there was some
money in this; that he was going with
Weber anyhow it is never too late to go
back, and this is about the best time to do it.
Weber came in; there was nothing said about
money. Mr.. Weber toll him that he was
going to place himself right, | do not know
that he was invited to call. He said he had
friend who would go along with him. He
told me he had seen Swazey. The interview
between him and Weber lasted about three
quarters Of an hour. No part Of the con-
Versation that night could have escaped me.
| was sitting in the middle. There was no
talk then OF consideration. He said he sym
pathized with Mr.. Weber, and no was going
to follow his example,
have never left Mr.. Weber for two minutes
at q time. | have heard no statement of
money having been given Dula for his testi-
mOny. Dula told me that If they would give
him $500 and Swazey $500 it would be all
right. He told Mr. Weber that If it was pos
stble he would like to get some money. Mr.
Weber told me that it was q matter of equity
and justice, and he had no money. Yesterday
Dula tried to borrow $40 from Weber. Weber
asked me If | would lend him $40. loaned it
to him, and he gave 1t to Dula. II was loan.
| was present at the Interview to-day. Dula
WANTED TO BORROW $50.
II 4 L.. a
ne wanted to get it fixed with the boys, and
wanted to make himself solid with them.
Weber came to me and asked me If [ had $50.
| told him had not, but had 1856, and /
would give 1t to him. He took it and gave it
to Dula and when he gave It to him said: II
or the other" That is all know about this.
Mr.. Dula told me that If would draw money
enough from the committee to pay his ex-
penses to the country he would show me how
to make money. That he was employed as
sergeant-at-arms when the visiting committee
was here and made money out OF it.
ON THE MISREPRESENTATION,
In response to questions by Gov. Cox, witness
said that he had earned the S35 he had given
to Weber; that he did not know who got him
his place on the committee, and that Weber's
credit in the town of DOnaldsOnvile was as
good as any other mans.
e. L. WEBER
was then placed on the stand and examined
by Mr.. Blackburn. He stated that all Of that
portion of DuIa's testimony relating to any
agreement or understanding between them in
which there was money consideration was
absolutely false.
Continuing, he said: The first interview
had with Dula, ] asked him how he liked the
testimony had given at Washington.
He said he liked 1t very well; that had
placed myself right before the people, and he
was going to do the same He said, Is there
not something In this old fellow? and ] an
swered there Is not one cent in 1t. He said,
we'll, I am going with you; all the boys are
going with you. He asked me IL could not
borrow money for him. He said II he went
back on his affidavit he would be ostracised
by both colored and white Republicans.
On one occasion he stated to me that II he
was to go back on his affidavit that those peo-
pie would prosecute him. / told him knew Of
no way to get money. He told me that Geo.
L. Smith had told him that he would give
him desk He told me that John Ray said
he must come surely; that he had converse
tions almost daily with him. never directly
or indirectly promised him one single, soli-
tary cent to do anything | have not had
$500 In my hands for don't know how long.
Mr. Cox went into no cross examination,
but had the secretary read letter from wit
ness to Mr.. Morris, dated February6 6, 1873,
In which he called attention to the Sherman
letter.
The committee then adjourned