The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-07-18

Q.-Then you say fatty that you never told
any one you had been offered money
| Al told Clark, Lewis, Smith and Doll.
Q--What Smith Is that
As-KObert Smith.
Odd you ever tell Geo. L. Smith, Collec-
tor Of the Port?
| A.-No, sir.
9-Rpid 70, you ever tell Tom Anderson
Q-You never told Judge Ray about it
| A.-No sir.
Q-Can you guess how it was that Gov. Cox
could have been so well advised about the
questions he WAS to ask you about dates, etc2
| A.-Well, think his duty as member OF
the committee is to know what to ask.
Q-Then you think Gov. Cox very shrewd,
do you?
A-Well, yes sir; / do.
Q,-Had anybody told Won to decline at first
TO answer his questions, and, then allow your
self to be drawn into answering?
A.-No, sir.
Q-YOu have had no suggestions as to what
you were to testify to2
! A,-No, sir.
Mr.. Blackburn then questioned witness as
to what his ideas were Of his conduct in
promising to ego back" on his affidavit, and
then breaking that promise, and as to which
he thought worse, taking 2 bride and falling
to perform the work, or telling lie while I'M
der oath. As to this the witness thought the
latter was the worst.
Witness then, In reply to questions, said u
have had no promise OF government employ
ment that is, not lately; about four or five
weeks ago / was promised o position in the
Custom House. supposed l was going on
the laborers' roll. I do not know that | will
get the situation. | do not know that my tes-
timony to-day will make any difference in my
chances"
Mr.. Blackburn then again changed the line
of examination.
O.-What was that Mr.. Weber said TO you
about his being all right now D..
| A.-Well Mr.. Weber owned property and
lost it, rs the Republicans have generally, and
now he could get it back.
| Q.-Is 1t the rule for the Republicans to lose
their property?
A-tWell. can't say that it Is the rule, but
none Of them have any now. Laughter.
| Odd you not understand Mr.. Weber to
mean that now he had told the truth that that
prejudice against him which had formerly ex-
listed would exist no longer
A.-No sir; he said nothing about telling
the truth.
| Odd he not tell you that he had placed
himself right before the people?
| A-Yes sir.
Odd he not say you had better go along
with him
A-Yes, sir; and told him would go with
| him.
Q.--But you didn't?
A.-NO didn't.
Q-What in the-worId, then, induced you
to tell him you would do so?
A.-Well / needed money and he talked Of
considerations.
Q.-Who first mentioned the matter Of con-
siderations2
Alt must have been Mr.. Weber.
Q.--Is 1t not o fact that you said there must
be something in this thing and you wanted 1t
for yourself
A.-kO, sir.
Q.--NOw, you have stated that Mr.. Weber
said that he had set himself right with the
people Of this State, and that you told him
you were going to follow him. Now, what
necessity was there for Mr.. Weber promising
you money for something you had promised
to do?
A.|WelI he said there were considerations.
Q.-Lets hear what he did say2
Ale told me that he had set himself
right with the people and ought to do the
same and said ! would, and then he said
| there were considerations.
On this answer Mr.. Blackburn questioned
| the witness at length as to what necessity
there was for Weber offering to bribe him into
making promise which he (wltness) had al
| ready made
Witness in reply to all these questions re-
peated the statements in the answer which
called them out.
Witness then answered, in reply to ques-
tiQns by Mr. Blackburn, as follows:
| state positively that it was Mr.. Weber and
not | who first made the proposition about
money. Armstead told me he had fixed him
self at about 0 O'Clock last night, on Cont
street, between Royal and Basin.
| / never told Armstead last night that had
q place in the Custom House. | am as posi-
| tive of that as anything | have stated / I'M
derstOOd by Weber5 remarks that he was all
right; that he had
RETNsTATED HIMSELF
In the estimation of the people. He did not
say anything about getting any money. He
did not say anything at any time which led
me to believe that he had been paid.
Mr.. Stenger then took the witness in hand
and questioned him on his affidavit made in
the Custom House for the use of the Return
statements contained in it, said
knew some Of the fifty or sixty men who
came to the court and demanded the resigna-
tions of the police jurors. DR.. Dedry came
into the courtroom and read set of resolu-
tons asking them to resign. One Of the
jurors cOlOred man, started to go out
Of the courtroom and man stationed
at the door kicked him and told him to
go back, that he could not go out until
he had resigned The court had adjourned
when the men came they did not disturb the
court. ] did not intend to convey the idea
that they had come to court while 1t was in
session, although the affidavit does do 50.
did not hear any one say that the Jurors
been more careful in making my affidavit in
this particular There were five members on
the jury all Of them Republicans. All Of them
told me they were compelled to resign on pain
Of death / know nothing Of 1t of my own
knowledge. | believe II they had not re-
signed they would all Of them have been
killed. | took the appearance Of the crowd
and their manner as q command to resign on
the pain of death.
never saw any Of the murders committed
mentioned in my affidavit. know it was ru-
mOred and from what heard knew the men
we're murdered. / did not know Russell, one of
the men killed / did not know Hurd, men
toned in the affidavit as having been whipped.
l do not know his age. do not reInem-
Der the place where he was whipped.
Mr.. Stenger-You have said that you did
not know the boy run out; you saw none of
the murders alleged to have been committed !;
you did not know Russell (who was killed.,
cations Of your own knowledge?
Answer-Yes, sir.
QUESTIONABLE yet you stated all these facts
as known to yourself?
! Ayes, sir.
Q.-Now, did not your conscience trouble
you?
A.-No, sir, not a bit. I believed it was
true, even If did not see it, 1 believed the
men who told me-