Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-06-26

| ing there. He has stated before thi
committee, in his testimony, that asked hin
If any protest had accompanied the returns
| and that he said no; that there was no groun,
| to warrant it, and that there was no occasion
to make it here, l disagree. Before that tim
he had not only complained to me of intimida
! ton, but had recited how he had been fired at
and showed me bullet hole which he had il
his coat. Soon after he came into my Office
and while he was conversing with others, he tool
sheet OF paper and went out into the ant
room of my Office, where there were desks ant
quite number of visitors waiting to me
He was gone about five minutes and then re
turned with q statement written in his Owl
hand and signed with his own name. I read i
and saw it was in form as required by law.
at once felt misgiying lest he might be accept
| ing Democratic overtures. asked him if h
wanted to swear to it, and he indicated his viii
ingness to do SO, and suggested we should &c
to United States Commissioner Woolfy an6
there he could swear to it. 1 went with hin
and he was sworn, and he parted from me anC
l returned to my Office. Anderson
says in his statement before the commit
up in legal form. I had nothing drawn up in
legal form. All he sWote Go was of his owr
drafting He says in his statement also that
Judge Campbell saw the second paper ano
was not satisfied with it. am sorry to say the
second paper never existed. He states also
that Judge Campbell thereupon framed third
paper to which he never swore. The third pa
per which he says he never sworc to he handed
me across the railing in my private Office, al
to the first paper / returned to my Office, anc
on the way back met Judge
Campbell and showed him Anderson's pro
test. Judge Campbell offered to put
1t in legal form if Anderson desired. About
an hour afterward Anderson came in, and told
% Ind 1o1 hol RI ,y,l IL
then left, but afterward returned and handed
me an elaborate paper, signed and sworn to by
himself. This paper was not framed in my
own office, and what its contents were ] don't
know. Anderson was accompanied by Capt
Jenks.and some other person whom I did not
know, and he remarked that Jenks
was little crooked, and had better
protest was thereupon supplemented by the
Asher statement, which was sworn to by jerks.
There was no attempt on my part to persuade
Anderson to do anything in violation of his
duty. was not the proper custodian of the
document, but retained it in drawer Of my
desk until I had time to examine it an hour
later, which did, and then sent it by messen-
senger to Judge Campbell. 1t was the only
protest ever had in my hands. The messen-
ger sent it by think was a deputy marshal,
and he may have handed it to Packard in de-
fault of finding Judge Campbell. At any rate
L learned Packard had seen it. Anderson
swears that the paper he signed on the 10th of
November was the only paper he swore to.
am not prepared to state whether there were
any blank spaces or not in it, as Anderson
testified but observed no such blank spaces,
but Thought the document was complete in all
particulars. Four days later Anderson came
into my office and asked to see his protest. I
told him had not then got it. His request
led me to suspect that he desired to destroy his
protest in Democratic interests. He discredited
my statement that l had not got it, and was
ordered him out. His rage, as interpreted
1T then, seemed to be at the thought
that he made protest. l believe his flrst
statement can be proved to be as have stated,
and not as he stated, made when he was drunk.
Anderson afterwards came outside of my office
and threatened to shoot me-so I heard-and
twice saw him walking about in front of nv
Office. His threats were reported to me several
times, and had some difficulty in retaining
my over Jealous partisans from taking him in
hand. Weber has been represented as having
said to Sherman that Anderson and himself had
incurred the enmity Of every Repub-
lican in the State on account of
their action. ! simply wished to say that
Weber never stood in such tlisfavor. l never
conferred with Weber one moment in regard to
the protest. That concludes my acquaintance
with Anderson until July, 1877, when I had
very important interview with him.
@. Give us the substance CT any other inter
view you had with Anderson at the time? A.
EARLY in July, 1877, two or three days after my
reaching Washington, Anderson accosted me in
front of Wizards hotel, and said that having
seen my p, arrival he had run down
surprised both at his friendly manner and
also at the matter which he then presented to
me. He said, in effect that had been harshly
treated by the administration, and that Stanley
Matthews had instigated the movement, and
that he (Anderson) had Stanley Matthews in a
tight fix. He then drew package from his
pocket and read three letters and one telegram
from Matthews to him (Anderscn). The terms
of the communications impressed me as being
of seriously compromising character. Ander-
son said one of the letters was a copy but that
he could prove the receipt of the original.
After reading the letters, and having certain
documents in his pocket unread, he
Went aes beh 5a,s,t them aad related that
made to him and Weber certain oral promises
in case they withheld certain statemente of in
timidation and frauds in the 1876 election. He
then opened document, the original Of which
he said was in Senator Matthews handwriting,
setting forth an undue influence by Packard
Kellogg, himself, and one or two others. This
was the Anderson-Weber agreement-at least
so thought. On reaching my name during
the reading ne faltered and said: Anderson,
that is untrue. l admit" ] told him had
never exchanged word with Weber as to
his protest, but interposed no further objec-
ton. Then Anderson proceeded to relate that
just before Sherman left New Orleans for
Washington he and Weber called on the Sena-
tor and told him they would like his oral prom
ises reduced to writing, and that Sherman had
r1on fho,o 10 I,o% h. ~
had taken charge of the letter, and that Weber
had advised him to commit the letter to him
(Weber) as he Anderson was prone to go on
spree, and that Weber did carry it in the in
side pocket of his coat, and that when he was
murdered the letter was on his person. An
derson appeared to rely more on what he
had received from Matthews than on what he
professed to have received from Sherman as
lmparting a certainty of performance which he
could compel. He said that when used in con-
nection with the Matthews letter it could be
made trou blesome for Sherman. Therefore,
since have stated that if Sherman had written
Weber or Anderson letter, it was in apprecia-
ton Of risks they had rum and because their
work was done at time when it was import
ant, and he might possibly have yielded
to their request for patronage out
of the State of Louisiana. Weber's
protest bears date of the 14th, and
Anderson's bears date of the 10Th. I have ex-
pressed the conviction to my friends that Mat
thews had fully enmeshed himself, as his let
ter of May 25th seemed to me to tend to that
end. Anderson said that Matthews met him
and asked him if all his letters were destroyed,
and that Anderson said they had heen, and also
that he met Matthews at Harrisburg and gave
him (Matthews) the best cursing he ever got.
1 felt persuaded Anderson had magnifed
the Importance of the matter, even if the let
tiers were genuine Anderson said he went home
and had copies made of the letters, and had
given copies Of the letters to Gen. Harlan. At
the close of the interview Anderson offered me
the use Of the documents SO that might re-
thews against myself. recollect having said
to Anderson felt indebted for his reposal Of
confidence, but I did not want to use his let
tiers. The interview closed, aid he returned
his packet to his pocket and went back the
same day to Philadelphia.