Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-06-12

had served the Republican party and had
claims on it as he represented, and as believe.
had at some previous time been promised
by Senator Matthews assistance. When he
came over here and I saw him in behalf
of Packard, he represented that he did not de-
sire any Office for himself, but Matthews had
promised him on previous occasions be would
endeavor to assist him. He said to me, want
nothing for myself nor from the administra-
ton. I have done my duty to the government,
and want to see you or Mr.. Packard appointed,
and will go up and see Matthews and get him
to do the best he can for you, which he did.
q. Do you remember Mrs. jerks being
here7
A. Yes, sir; she was here. 1t was published
in the papers that she was here, and that she
had the Sherman document.
Q. She was here claiming to have the Sher-
man letter?
A. She told me she had.
@. What was she doing with it?
A. could not say. My impression is Mrs.
and think the day after she came sh Q came
up to my house and called me into an ant
room and stated to me that she
was DESTROYS Of assisting Packard in
securing the place, and that the administration
did not seem to consider the claims of Repub-
licans down there who had served the party;
that Packard would appoint men to serve
services, that is, said she might be Of service.
In any case she said she was going to see Mr..
Sherman. l think she said that she had an
agreement or letter. She said this letter was
written by Sherman, and that she wanted to
use it if it could be used to help
Packard. I did not to take any
part in the matter and told her she had better
see Packard Kellogg somebody, and l
think that was the last I saw of her. I re-
member distinctly her telling me at our first
interview that she had the documents. 1t may
be that she said she was representing party
that had them, but think she said she had
them.
@. About how long was it before Mrs. jerks
changed front on her statement as to having or
not having the letter?
A. As nearly as I can recollect she was here
couple of weeks. l never talked with her
after that except as passed her on the street
once or twice, but in course of a week or so
the course of which he said he never had given
such letter, for Mrs. jerks admitted be
never had. She published card
in the Times to that effect remember. Dur
ing the time Anderson was over here he saw
her.
@. What other copies of Sherman's docu-
ments are in existence; any except this origin
al document which she claims to have?
A. am not sure. / expect Anderson had a
Q. How long did he have copy?
A. have no idea. l recollect Anderson told
that the original document left with
Weber soon after it was written, and he had q
copy, and l supposed he had the copy evel
since.
@. When was the first time you knew that
Matthews was aware that certain papers were
not in Anderson's hands which it was any way
Important to take up?
A. cannot answer tho question just in
that shape. Matthews never said to me that
Anderson had any paper that he desired te
to me in one of our interviews. probably in
March. that the papers in Anderson's hands
were of no account and he did not care whether
they were taken up or not. I mean his letters
that he might have written. / remember we
had conversation at that time in regard tc
Sherman and Matthews. My opinion was there
was not any such letter ever given and that il
was not worth bothcring about.
BY Mr.. Cox-What was the date of that con
versation?
A. 1t would be some time during March
That is my recollection in regard to our con
versation.
By McMahon-Look at that letter and see i
1t is your handwriting, and if it refreshes you
recollection as to any matter. (Handing lette
to witness
Yes, this is little earlier date than thought
I said it was dated in March, but I see it i
dated February 18th. The conversation that
had with Matthews was about this letter
There was nothing said about my recollection
OF any papers or documents, or anything o
the kind. Matthews said to me that he wa
anxious to oblige Anderson.
O. Anderson had just been over here, hadn'
A. Yes sir. imagine he had Just beel
here. He was over number of times.
@. He had had an interview with Senate
Matthews, had he not2
A. That must have been written after hi
first interview.
@. After he went home you wrote to him
did you not?
| A. Yes, sir.
Q. (Reaaing.) If you think best you writ
| to me, that means Matthews3
| A. Yes, cir.
(Reading) That in thinking the letter owe
| since you have gone home you are more con
| WINGED that am the best man and that
would suit you best Suit you best is under
| scored?
A. Yes, sir.
@. You did not state anything in the letter
but what was at the time correct?
! A. No.
Cox here requested that the letter be read i
full instead Of being taken up piecemeal, an
Mcmahon complying, read it as follows:
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,, WASHINGTON.
| c., February II, 1S75.-DEAR SIR:-I called o
! Senator this evening. Found him C,
| pecting me, and said all. and will not appui1
| P, and at once suggested / should take it.
| am to advise with him as soon as Williamso
is out OF the way, which will be in two thrs
days. He will evidently work heartily for M
Packard also said to-day he would suppol
me in case he cannot get it himself. If yo
think best, you write to me that in thinkin
the matter over since you have gone hom
you are more convinced that I am the be-
man, and that it will suit you best. He want
| to do what is right by you,and he tells me. and
know, desires that you should be satisfies
strong but careful letter will help. / nee
hardly say that if l should by any means e
the place, will appreciate you, and if don
will all the same appreciate your effort
Will write you anything new in the case.
Give my respects to Mrs. A., and be ready
come over if necessary. Truly yours,
G. B. DARRALL.
To Jas. E. Anderson, Philadelphia.
After reading the letter, witness was askt
if it did not refresh his recollection that
went to see Senator Matthews. that the latt
was expecting to see him, to which witne
replied, expect that, likely, was wri
ten in regard to the first intervie
l had with Matthews after Anderson had sc.
him, because l remember Anderson came ba,
after going to see him in Packards behalf.
imagine that is the first letter to Matthews.
Q. Why did you want Anderson to write
: Matthews in your behalf, and for him to sta
in it that you were the best man, and that
would suit him the best, that is, suit Ard
son best. What led you to believe there W
any such relation existing between these t,
men that it would be of any importance
you?
A. For the simple reason, as said in +
evidence, that Anderson wrote to me til
Matthews agreed that he had given written
surance that if he withdrew any claim he
he would ask either Packards appointment
my appointment.
@. Did the question whether the papers
, possession Of Anderson were worth anythi
! at all enter in any way into these talks wi
Senator Matthews?
e A. Not up to this date.
Md fhou at a at