The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-07-15

by those towrrd whom II exercised. The friends
OF the President are satisfied with his course.
REroRrER-Wsat DO YOU tnink Mr. Conkiing VIII do
about ~
MT. BAcoS--The Presidents action perhaps in
creases bis hostility toward the President and can
conceive II TO DO Of Irritation 10 him,
bat cannot Judge OF his probable action His pas
sions might Incline him 10 course which his ultimate
REPoRrsa-You are not ON intimate terms with the
Ssnaiorf
Mr. BAcoS-I don't consiasr him my friend neither
40 count yself among his friends. He mas seen a.
10 ignore me u long time, and while IN Congress
together the past session We have not spoken 10 each
other We have been the same railway coach To-
eether and has passed me by without the slightest
nolics. therefore 1 do not claim aim as friend
REPoRrER-What do you ,hink was SeLat or Conk-
lings motive 10 aiding FenionY
Mr.. BAcoN-Well, that Is = conundrum. But 1t looks
country. But II has not made any difference IN their
personal relations.
RxPoxrrR-what il your opinion Of the coming cleo
Mr. BAcoN-i think, and have heard It said by many
OF our party, that Senator conkinss friends cannot
REroKrxK-wil Mr.. Roberts be candidate for
United States Senatory
Mr. BACON think not, as he mas aspirations
date
RKroRrER-who. In your opinion, is the strongest
candidate against senator ConklingY
Mr. BAcox--Stswart L. Woodford has the most els-
ments OF success He popular, good public speaker
and sound all questions.
now EX-SENATOR LowERY LOOKS AT 1T.
found ex.stase senator L0wery az his ONCE
He opened the convsrsation oy SAYING that
had noisxes to grind, no snmities 70 cherish
and did not wish to be thought hostile to this
man or that man aud so far senator Conkiing
concerned respected him as his neighbor tbst he
opposed some Of his vows In politics he did not
deny but that MADE difference their personal
relations which were OF . friendly character
said, "What do you think Of the action OF the
President In removing Arthur and CoraellW
Mr. LowRRY-My Impression s 1t will give the Pres
idcnt strength outside OF the federal ocals-hat IT,
those VINO refuse to obey him and who have de-
places under the President sneer At him for every
pg he has done for the country. HIS friends and
DEPRESSED and discouraged Ofice.noders instead OF
rendering the President AID, rcvie him In converse
ton, try TO ridiculs the wisdom OF his policy and
all he does Is from personal motives alone
Up to this time the fight has been on one side. The
President has been struck from many quarters while
has ned from striking back. II therc 10 any
thing the American people admire It 10 pluck.
ON THE rsNcE REPLIES
Do you think Senator Conkiing responsible for at
Mr. LowERY-I have no means OF knowing think
many republicans disposed 10 be friendly 10 Mr.
his toward the President IL % unjust Many
hold that be " responsible Tor the unnecessary bitter
ness with which federal onice-holdsrs have Assaisd
the President
REroKrxR-Your relations with the Senator are
friendly, are they noif
Mr.. LowERY-I have reason 10 believe other
WISE mad the honor Of presenting his name to the
joint OF the Legislature the last time he
elected United States Ssnstor
REPokrRR-to which wing OF the party DO you DO.
lorg Mr. LOweryf
Mr.. LowER1-I belong to no wing recognize
President Hsye The head Of our PARTY, and see
good reason why good republicans should not give
him hearty support
RKrokfER-What eject will the Custom House re-
movais have IN your county this aiif
Nr. LowERY-lrs too carly 10 deter nina II will de-
pend the OF those who oppose the President
REPoRrRR-Will not the friends OF Senator Coak-
ling wage siiIi nercsr against the President
account Of these removals.
Mr. LowRRy-I think not
RKPoRrER-What are the chances OF election OF Al.
oily this ial who friends Of Mr. Conklingf
Mr. LowKRY-I think no one eau be elected IN
Oneida county who IS known enemy to the admins
tration
REPoRrKR-What Will be the effect Of Senator CONF
nng's efforts in behalf OF Fe1tonf
Mr.. LowERY-It viii have no effect on tho friends
OF President. because what Senator Con king
ft do behalf OF Fenton does not excuse his op.
position to the President.
RxPoKrER-Havs you heard of any bargains, here
between the Con king forces and the demo-
or xtsy
Mr.. LowERY-Have heard rumors OF . bargain at
Albany. but nave 70 knowledge OF the tact.
kKPoRrKR-Do you think Mr. Roberts will be can
didatc for United States SenatOrP
MI LowRRY-I think not
REPoRrHR-Are you suref
Mr.. LowERY-l have had conversation with him
on the subject but there 10 every 70 believe
he does not desire any office.