The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-08-28
TIE Now ORLEANS DEMooRAT AUGUST % 1873

NV informant that the speech lie made to-
day, which SO significantly but indirectly
hints ct Hayes Southern policy, that he
made 1t after consultation with Mr.. Matthew'S
MI. Hayes brother-in-law, and Mr.. Mat
thews told him and urged him to say square
ly that Hayes would have nothing to do or
say to Packard Foster said he would. but he
was afraid to take too much on himself to say
that, but Mr.. Matthews reiterates his desire
that Foster should say 50 plumply, and fur
Their said II were to speak I should say it be-
cause it is the truth Foster further said that
he did not see the mode by which Hayes
gould accomplish the practical recognition Of
replied: Let him ask Nichols i | Withdraw
the army and the gunboats, will you assure
me that you will not establish your govern
ment by bloodshed and bloody retaliation,
and If Nichols makes the pledge let him with
draw them
"Now, Ellis, this is the first thing I have
ever heard as coming from Hayes, directly or
indirectly that Is worth acting upon by any
Southern man. We do not want, offices, but
free from carpet-ba government Ought you
not II an available opportunity offers you to
serve your people, to spring forward at once
and see II you can't free your State? think
you should at once see ME- Stanley Matthews
and ask him Ii Gov. Hayes will give you
some assurance that he will not maintain
| Packard in his domination OF your people.
| Your friend, l.. q. @. LAMAR"
washington, February 70, 1871.
| Then Major Burke gave an account Of his
interview with Sherman Matthews and Dem
nson. in the Finance Committee room OF the
| Senate. Sherman began the conversation
He said that he had requested the interview
In view Of the position Of things in the House,
! and the interference with the count, which
Threatened to throw the country into commo-
tion, and he thought that the state of things
had arisen because Of apprehension as to
what Hayes would do about South Carolina
and Louisiana. Sherman expressed his fears
of the fate Of the colored people In case the
Nichols government should succeed, and
| Major Burke read to him his list OF guaran-
| tees made to Matthews Major Burke sug-
| gested that President Grant should be seen
and permitted to give the guarantee for the
removal OF the troops. ...
You had no doubt of the count going on il
the obstacles were removed p
Il said | had my authority to speak for the
House Of Representatives, but had no doubt
would be removed that the count could b.
concluded. Mr.. Sherman was very emphatic
in reply. He threw up his hands and saiC
there was no use talking to Grant" Thel
Major Burke showed the telegram he had jus
sent to New Orleans, giving Grants changed
views, and expressed Che opinion that If tn
troops were withdrawn Hayes would find III
Packard government to embarrass him whel
he came in. Then they agreed to go to Gran
the following morning with the Louisiana
| ueltStAtob. :.
Gen. Butler called the attention Of the wit
ness to the remarkable similarity between tn
) language Of the Sherman letter and the Ian
guage Of Gov. Dennison in the committe
room conference, and said that sort of tai
r seemed to be O. formula with the Ohio pol
, ticlans. Then Gen. Butler brought out tn
tact that Mr.. Sherman was more anxiou
about the way the Cabinet was to be organ
. lied than anything else. Gen, Butler ais
5 brought out the TACT of a bargain to postpon
; the election Of United States Senators by tb
| Louisiana Legislature so that the question (
l confirming Mr.. Hayes Cabinet should not
) embarrassed.
: Major Burke said that the Wormley col
Z ference grew out of the fact that he wanted
, have some one besides himself on his side {
e the agreement, SO that there should be L
' misunderstanding. He said the conferent
} was held in Mr.. Evarts' room; that M
;. Evarts may have been there, but did not r.
: main; thosegpresent were Sherman, CARTEL
g Foster, Dennfson, Matthews, Ellis. Levy, al
i Watterson. He was certain that Garfield W.
q there because he sat alongside of him III
t talked to him, At this conference the who
i condition of affairs was thoroughly discusse