New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-08-22


as he had no way OF telling whether me manner
which the witness answered was on account OIL not re-
Numbering or otherwise. ,.
excitement; his face became pale and the lines ABOUT
few moments lighted cigar; but this was insuheenI
10 steady his nerves and he passed out INTO tue AUTO
for few moments. In hrs absence the members
OF the committee consulted together.
Mr. Potter said-NOw suggest that you let me Strike
out from the record all OF this beginning Win MI HIS
cocks words.
THE OBJECTIONABLE WORDS STRICKEN OUT.
General Butler nodded assent, bat at this moment the
witness returned and resumed his seat
General Butler 10 the chairmanl-I will say 20 you
that the remark that made TO Mr. Hlseock never ought
to have gone on the and that it be stricken
ont The chairman sad that t should be stricken out
General Butler Ito the wtness-WhY did not give
to the public this material part OF the agreement mace
Major Burke-Sir. Chairman. do not wish to place
General Butler in false position any more than Wish
that the striking Of those remarks from the record is
for the purpose of removing anything offensive In MS
Mr.. Potter-The remark made TO Mr.. Hiscock, and
was only intended to convey doubt OF your aeeuIacS
OF memory otherwise, which Is permitted III cross
examination A.,
Major BurEe-Then II having been stricken from the
record, will go with my answers.
The question was repeated aud the witness answered;
That part OF the agreement was not eohSeron St
tia 10 the people OF Louisiana The puDhcly Oh villa
gwen to the public was deemed essential IN Cruer
given So that II they we're violated aud evil effects fol-
lowed the people of Louisiana would DC Jsned Dy ihe
~
i'm be Iiouse by going TO members opposed TO the cleo
tOra count and telling them OF the course which Pres-
dent Hayes would pursue I'm relation 20 louisiana IDey
acted on these assurances; but / believe tho count
would have been completed even II they had not Deen
made, fbelieye so from the fact tat many meinVts
who Joined I'm bustefing movement, id so at ihc
request OF friends or louisiana who tod them that
terms for that State might thereby be Obtained MANY
did in opposition TO the wishes OF their constituents
aud only Joined the opposition Tor time IN oruer 'ht
General ButIer"Tben.you will pardon me for using
thpr
heid and Mr. Foster got bued into an agreement ana
got nothing for It which they would not nave got Win
Mr.. Hiscock-Oh you've been all the morning show
ing that the Republicans gave nothing; everything was
gwen by the Louisiana Democrats. -
The witness read "a dispatch from him to Governor
Nichols To tue effect that the opposition 10 the cleo
tora count could not long be held together The wit
nesss Telegram 20 Nichols assuring him that his gov
eminent would be recognized read by General But
Ter, who asked: Who was the nigh authority VINO
gave the assurances mentiOnedf A.-Stanley Mat
Q.@Then the Republican candidate for the senate
ONO disclosed 10 YOU the secrets OF General Grans
Cabinet, did he 7 Ave received the Information irOD
Other dispatches we're read and explained by the wit
ness, without bringing out anything new or especially
General Butler-Who was j. p. b. wilmer Ale
was bishop ~ the Episcopal diocese OF LOUISIANA.
Q.-Methodist Episcopali A.-No; Protestant Epis-
Q.-How came he away from his nock mixing in poll
tics In Washington Ale was there ~ tht interest
OF peace trying TO prevent blOOdsled. had an inter-
Wow with him, and shared with him my information ~
relation 20 the intentions OF Governor Hayes HIS a.
Louisiana was understood by ne e. mean thnt no al
tempt would he made to put the Packard Government
over the people that state there Only one way
Of disturbing the peace Tuis was one OF the assurances
relied on teiegraphrd the dispatch 20 Goyoiiot
Nichols there could nave been no doubt as To what
meant. . p,
left this country for Europe about the time tns com
mi tee was organized. Al know nothing about his
movements, although am member OF his congre-
Q"Wcn, do It was aDout the first Of last May tina.
you lost the benefit u his preaching, wasn't III Al
don't know OF ms movements.
Witness contlnued-I don't remember any distinct
reference made immunity FOR crime AZ the Nornlcy
conference; l 40 remember reference 10 "; m.le ~
on IN relation 20 the United es senators FROM LOuis
lana made before ieii Louisiana
TnE SACRIFICE OF TWO SENATOR'S.
Q.-YOu remarked yesterday that you could have had
Louisiana any time by giving up the two senators 10
the Republicans. Who gave you that assurance A.
This Is matter Of sOme dolicacy, but am unwilling 10
appear before the county attempting 10 conceal any
thing which this committee desires TO inquire into Tue
information that such the CXlctOn tnBt would hc
made II The NCnuiis Government was gwen 10 me ~
Governor Nichols. IL gwen 10 Or my iuiOrm-
on aud with instructions to Ascertain fully AL partCu-
concerning IL, anu keep him and tie Legislature adj
y.sed. must repeat tba' nave nothing To suppress or
conceal and know that Governor Nichols does not
wish anything concerning his acts or Inne IN that con
neCtIOn 90 be suppressed ar concealed therefore VIII
any questions That may be propounded 70 me ~
Maior burke stated that he had had interview with
Mr. Hayes and they mad discussed The condition OF
affairs LOUISIANA. lie nad itltgrdphed lhcIo tidt n
Thought the policy OF the President toward tat state
would be Just lie said: " Tue only idea that EaVo
ever intended convey Iu regard 10 tue Louisiana
pledges that the Republicans who them feprs
sented the Presidents views never said thatl believed
tuey acted under mis- authority"
General Buter-NOw the whole OF II Is that Governor
Hayes friends guaranteed tnat the Nichols govern
ment shOud be usdlneu DO Lou tna ANA Size Hampton
government South Catu4.ua and thet ucuds agreed
10 e. thcr best to stop niDustcrug Now wasn't mat
lc substance O HOTucs dispatch to Governor Young,
OmO Al do moi remember that II was. IL Was die
tated by me In part, Out nave nos seen u since;
An hOur was consumed with questions IN relation TO
this dspatcn and tne answer 10 10. General Butler
wished the witness to tell exactly what IL. and
whether 10 ms purpose ~ sending u 10 gct IL
before Iuyts but witness declined ID
General Butler visited. Any answer, III received, made
no impression upon hls nina. gave, he "a q, Gov
ernOr Young ana President Hayes Credt for much
sagaCity TO have communicated with Mr. Horne then
approval disapprOyal OF the agreement ! never
heard t suggested before mat there should 10 delay
the electoral count IA the House unt assurances SHOULD
come from Governor Hayes"
The committee adj ourned to 1890 a. u. to-day