Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1878-08-14

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| Orleans Times, a Democratic journal, and
during the campaign used his influence to
/ carry the State and national ticket Witness
| believed Nichols add Tiideu carried L0uisi-
| ana. In either 1866 or 1868 Governor Hayes
came TO New Orleans for the purpose of look
| ing INTO the cause of the riots. He was a
| good shot and good talker. He went out
| hunting and circulated freely about, and
made many friends for his party IN that way.
| He did not seem 10 have come there TO fight
| the Democrats. Witness knew Charles Fos-
ter, of Ohio, and spoke of him as a truthful
man, who dared give expression to his own
| opinions.
The witness was then asked about the
| course that was taken IN regard to ascertain
| ing the attitude of Governor Hayes toward
| the State government of louisiana, when he
went on and stated that, as a newspaper rep
resentatlve and as man who was not active
/ ly engaged in politics, he was selected to go
and ascertain the views of Governor Hayes
| and what policy he would adopt in case of
his election to the Presidency.
The witness then went on to state that ne
proceeded to Ohio some time before the re-
| turning board met, and was about stating
| the result of the conversation he had with
| Halstead who gave him sealed letter to
Hayes, when he was interrupted by Hiscock,
| who objected to the question and answer,
as that would be throwing mud upon the
| President"
General Butler said his question to the wit
ness was plain one, and that he had merely
asked him to state as near as he could the re-
suit of his interview with Halstead, the edi-
| tor Of the Cincinnati Commercial, and he did
| not see how that was throwing mud on the
| President by detailing exactly what was said
or done. la regard to this investigation he
| thought they should go into the length and
| breadth OF il. We are here to ascertain
| if Hayes was elected by a fair count.
| He said it was shown in the evidence that
| Nichols had received about thirteen thou
sand votes more than Hayes, and that Pack
| ard had received so many votes over HAYES;
and yet the wonderful result of that the coun-
| try already knew. General Butler also spoke
| of the vote that had been given II South Caro-
lima, and said that ali this seems very strange.
| Many persons have seen where lightning has
| struck, but scarce anyone has seen lightning
/ strike twice In the same place. Such phe-
| nomena would surely have got into the news
paper. he thought that every latitude
| should be given in this investigation, and he
| saw no objection to the question, as no electo
| raj commission was then thought of.
Mr.. Hiscoek mistrusted that General But
Ter was endeavoring to show that forgery had
| been committed, and argued that such evil
/ dence was sought to be obtained with view
of connecting the President of the United
States with the forgery, and looking toward
his impeachment. He thought that they
| should not step outside of the letter of tae
| resolution.
After some further discussion, the chair
| man said he had no objection to the question,
| whereupon the witness then detailed at
length the interview with Halstead and his
subsequent interviews with Governor Hayes
| and Lamar. Witness told Halstead that he
had come on FOX the purpose of learning
| Governor Hayes's views In regard to the
south, and what policy he would adopt In
/ . ,r,n ,NE hair tod
| dent. Witness, in the course of the CONVEX
| sation with Halstead, told him that what
could be done weuld be done to save the
State, remarking to him that whatever horse
loses our horse wins. Witness told him that
whatever cargo they threw out it would be
the cargo of the least value. Halstead told
| witness that Hayes was a good fellow, and
meant to do right toward the south. Witness
told Halstead that he had come thither on
purpose to find sthat out. Witness detailed
| the further conversation he had with Hal
| stead, and then spoke of his visit to GJvernor
Hayes with letter of introduction from Hal
stead, which letter was sealed, and of the
| contents of which he was ignorant His in
terView with Hayes was of an exceedingly
pleasant character, and he learned that the
governor entertained the most friendly feel
| ing toward the south. Witness told him that
the State must be saved, at all hazards, to
| the Democrats, and that whoever they threw
value to them. He also told the governor
| that they could establish a vote of thirteen
thousand. Governor Hayes told witness that
he had no desire for the Presidency unless he
were counted in fairly. He spoke very kindly
and courteously of the south.
The witness detailed at length the CONVEX
| sations he had at various times before the
matter was definitely settled with Mr.. Lamar
and others. Witness said that from CONVEX
sations with various Republican leaders, he
understood that if Louisiana aud South Caro-
lima were counted for Hayes the government
of those States would be given to the Demo
| Gratis. They proceeded on this assurance, and
and the assurances were carried out.
General Butler observed that such assur-
ances seemed to be of much the same nature
| as bargain.
In the course of further evidence, witness
| said he was offered the position of naval
officer but recommended that it be given to
| "nigger." He would not take any such
position, where he would be obliged to take
| care of Kenner, of the returning board.
General Grants order, known as the ''Snifin
order, was issued a short tim9 before he
| went out OF Office, at the earnest solicitation
of the Republicans; when he left New Or
leans to call on Governor Hayes, be believed
| the returning board would declare Packard
| elected; in that conversation Hayes told him
| he did not want the Presidential office except
he got 1t fairly; General Comley was present
| at times; Hayes said his letter of acceptance
was not a mere empty form of words, but
| that he intended to live up TO 1t in its broad
| est spirit, and intended to treat the people
! with fairness and justice; he said nothing as
| to which State government he would recog-
nIze in louisiana; he understood fairness
| and justice" to mean the withdrawal of the
| troops and the election of the person receiving
/ the highest vote; he believed Hayes to be
| well-meaning, honest man.
| General Butler cross examined witness as
\ to whether he did not understand Justice
| and fairness TO mean a recognition Of the
| Democratic government.
| Witness replied that Hayes made no
| pledges Of any kind, and witness was left to
| infer what these words meant.
| General Butler tried to show that they i'm
| piled a bargain.
| Witness admitted that when relating his
| talk with Hayes to his friends he acCOmpa-
MED his information with the statement that
| he understood Louisiana was to be saved. An
/ article IN the old-tIme regular bloody shirt
| style, published IN the Ohio State Journal,
and given as Hayes's sentiments toward the
1 south, created great excitement until 1t was
/ proved that Governor Hayes held no such
| opinions, and never authorized the article.
/ General Butler-Had you any doubt that
/ Hayes understood he was pledging himself
| to you that your State would be placed in the
| hands Of the Democracy if he was elected
| President?
| A long discussion ensued between General
| Butler and Mr.. Hiscock as to the question.
| Witness replied that he understood from
| Hayes manner and conversation the Mich
oils government would be given a chance to
| establish itself.
| Adjourned.
| The Religious Gathering at FaiFpOint,
| New York.
FAIRPoINT, N. Y, August 13.-There are
at this point .our hundred and fifty cottages,
two hundred and thirty -four tents, and thirty
portable cottages, which, with the hotel and