The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-26


he hadn's any right to issue them.
By Mr.. Mcaahon-Q. For what purpose Indicated
witnesses might be brought New Orleans to
give their testimony before the Chief United
the processes IN order 10 establish IN his
report which be has to make 10 the Attorney General
chs 90 40 Tue ., 'ns ~
It's conduct rho Law refers exclusively TO the cleo
ton Tor members OF Congress, nowe-er,
IL Is not for presidential election. or the elec-
tion OF county or State onicersY 4. 30, sir
DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW.
that was taken BY me "a aa aas ons
paid for by them, goes INT hands OF this State
tribunal or Returning, Bcarur A. | do not, and l
would state that there are good many things
which. perhaps, ought 10 know, but which DO not
how far the Returning Board avaed itself OF the tes-
timony taken before tho chief supervisor ! know
nothing.
other testimony before IL but that? A. believe
u was used 10 considerable extent, but am not
prepared TO say to what oxtent.
BY Mr.. McManon-Is that OF tho things you did
not want to know, you have Just stated? A. Twill
tell you why did not want to know; havo antici-
patsd "lJry into this Louisiana business nil the
time, ant Ut that had any mlstrut about it, but
did not want TO know about II, and was not partcu
lar TO inquire about H.
BY Mr. Morrison--Your statement 10 the committee
in New Orleans was that tho amount paid 10 witness
was about $1l, 000 Is shat correcty A. suppose
SO, u so stated; do not remember now.
Tho witness was questioned IN reference to his In
tefviews with Judge Lovsee at tho time Of tho al
legged attempts at bribery and tho state
ments Of that gentleman
DEPUTY MAEsHALs APPOINTED.
In answer TO questions Mr. Pitkin contInued:-I
had S76 deputy narshas under me in the city OF New
Orleans and 500 IN the State at large; they served
IN the country an average fUur Two days with
out pay; in the city some served ten. 1ve or two
days; received at the time letter from the chair
main OF the Democratic State Committee, Mr.. Pat
ton giving Inst OF $50 persons
whom he proposed for deputy marshals, but upon
looking over the list found many whom knew wero
white Lsagusrs and on turthor investigation
quiry found that there were only about twenty out
organic .tion; then replied Mr. Patton that had
made my appointments, and as the officer charged
with maintaining tue peace OF the State did not feel
justihed IN employing mon who had recently del
used the city In blood-referring 70 tho September,
1874, election.
Q Tho result was that all these deputies were taken
from the republican Candidates? A. Yes sir with this
exception, that list was handed me by some gcnte-
man In New Orleans asking to appoint some demo
crafts there and told them that II they would far
nish mo the names oil men VINO wore not members OF
the White. League would appoint them, aud they did
so. and apponed thirty-ive democrats In the city.
There would have been moro II the names OF tue
democrats submitted me hna not been White Leasuers
TIE
O. Did the protests required by law accomplny any
OF the returns from any OF tho parishes in louisiana
A. That don't pretend to know about; l was not
state officer ana not familiar with that SUBJECT
q. DO you know what arrangements were made in
the swearing of Witnesses and tho making OF pro-
lasts thersf A. know there were two attorneys
and perhaps more, who werc there, and assisted
these gentlemen when they came down from the
country DO not know to what extent those protests
were made out but something OF that KIND was done
! am satisfied my office was in the Custom House,
but it Is n very large building covering whole square
q. Don't you know what arrangements were madc
Tor having protests and aspositions written signed
and sworn there part OF inc machinery OF the
campaign A. II was sort OF general knowledge
had had no distinct or personal knowlegs Of ~ my
deputies never gave any such ala.
a. We're any federal soldiers engaged In writing out
dispositions protests? A. hoard charged NJ the
told that il was the third floor; my Offices
tho second hoor
son here In July, and he showed you certain papers,
did advise him to put those papers u tho custody
Of General Butlsr' A. may possibly have said that.
O. What was your object In so advising himf A.
Well, have conferred with General Butler In regard
TO political matters for many years ana he has been
warm friend OF mine, and thought II was a matter
he ought to know about; had NO personal object In
doing 80; afcrward telssraphed or wrote to Andcr
son. In september or October, that Conkng might
take oognzsncs Of tho natter and may have stated
that would pay his expenses 10 Washington II no
would como anu bring the papers
THE PARTY.
@ Do you know what papers were brought hero In
the spring Of 1877 In relation TO tho proceedings OF
hero by Emile Honors the candidate Tor Secretary of
State the Packard ticket; no came In compliance
"a snem; they ere rs.arns Of ssns kns, don.t 70
member what: she Secretary Of State Is the proper
custodian Of such papers; don't know whether they
have becn returned 10 him.
O. DO you know where ihose papers are nows a.
No, sir; supposed they were with tho proper GUS
todian-the Secretary Of Slate IN Lsuisiana-iu tho
archives but l know nothing about Il; after Mr..
Honorc's return to Louisiana ne reported to what
ho mad done. and then asked Mr. Howe to get Mr..
French, tho Sergeant-aA Arms Of tho Senate, 10
charge OF the papers, to keep the KnottField Com
miIteo IRON getting them, and afterward under.
stood they were deposited In tho Senate Committee
Room ON Patents
@ WHAT objection had you TO allowing these papers
10 brought before the House CommitteeS A. Well,
rather partisan battle, and preferred TO have
tho papers before my political friends NJ the time
the box containing them; the d had not been
taken on, and the box In the committee room.
BY Mr.. McMahon-What became OF the original pa
per up ~ ss AND 20 BY hm be-
home 1 looked through the large accumulation OF
papers had. and finally found It, ana sent 1t by mail.
enclosed IN note to Senator Conklng; don't know
wuerc further than that sent IL TO Senator
Conkling for the purpose of convincing MIN that An
derson's statement that he when he signed
It was not true; wanted vndicatc tho statement
made Mr. Conkiing that IL was in his tAnderson's
letters signed by u. A. Weber, and he identified them
being IN his handwriting.
BY Mr.. Butler-Have you called Senator Conk-
ng for that document since you nave been here this
timer A. Yes sur The next morning after got hero
called him, ana We went together TO tho room Of
the Committee on Commerce., and search was made,
but it could be found; he did not rcmember clearly
rccevingit but remembered perfectly well my prom.
s,ng TO sead u to him lett hum my address and no
not received ~.
by tho Cnsirman-Did you tako any copy Of tina.
q. DO you rccolIecs IL we'll enough TO repeat what
It was? A. No, sir; rococct That u stated there
intimidation In tho parish, but do not remem-
Der whether II stated II was py democrats or repub
wBo TALKED WITH
Albert q. Haley next called, and no proceeded
to state. IN answer to qustons by tho cnairmar that
he resided IN Washington, aud lived within a lew
doors OF tho house where Mrs jerks stopped whom
she In Washington last winter. he had con-
with her about tho so-cacd Sherman letter.
q. Please to state what she said about
Inc question was objected TO by Mr. Hiscock, claim
Ing that there was no legal evidence showing that
Secretary sherman ever wrote the so-calIed sherman
letter and Mr.. McMnhon stating that no believed he
did write the letter from the testimony as already
given. Mr.. Butler did not think tnere the slight
est inference that could DO legally or logically
drawn that Mr.. sherman wroie the so-callcd
Sherman letter. The Chairman said that he differed
from the republican members OF the committee In
far they deemed the portani point In tho uvcst
CATION TO be wuetber Secretary sherman wrote the
letter not for u was proposed TO be shown that
Secretary Sherman had used certain Influences TO
bring about certain results and this letter 10 only one
OF SORES OF actions tending TO that end.
After further discussion The witncss was excused
and the committee adjourned nj forty minutes past
nvs 7. NJ until Wednesday morning at haif past ten
o'clock.
THE LOUISIANA SUBCOMMITTEE WHAT THE
REPUBLICANS EXPECT TO pRoyE--oRIGIxAL