Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1878-06-27

TESTIMONY OF JUDGE CAMPBELL.

After our report of the proceedings before
Potters committee closed yesterday:
Judge Hugh J. Campbell was examined. He
was judge of the $Ourth district court in New
Orleans In 1876, and was in Marshal Pitkin's
office when AnderSOn's affidavit concerning
Intimidation by democrats in East Feliciana
and he drew up a paper from it; but Ander-
son subsequently had some compunctions
about filling up that form, because the matters
personal knowledge. He did not distinctly
remember having administered any oath to
Anderson, but he thought what purports to be
up or dictated by him, (Campbell.) II he ad-
ministered any oath to Anderson, his sigma
ture would be found upon the paper. He
spoke Of the arrangements under which the
afhdavits were made by the supervisors of
election, but nothing important was elected.
Anderson'S protest: he thought, could have
not safe for him to attach it to the returns in
East Feliciana, and the form of protest was
made to meet this emergency. He was an ear
nest republican, and felt that the vote of the
State depended upon the Feliciana parishes.
He saw MIR. Sherman in New Orleans during
the progress of the count, but the subject Of
AnderSOn'S s protest was never mentioned be-
tween them. He did not see any protest re-
garding West Feliciana from ID. A. Weber. He
understood from Pitkin thai the latter had a
stormy scene with Anderson, and that Ander-
son had demanded back his protest, because
he was not satisfied with the assurances re-
PUBLICAN leaders had given him. Anderson
q. When did you first hear of the Sherman
letter? A. Some time in the summer of 1877,
after my return to New Orleans from Wash
ingtOn: AT that time heard that when Weber
was killed there was found on his body letter
of some Importance from some one, and it was
feared that it had been captured by the parties
heard that statement
q: You were not appointed to your present
position because of any corrupt agreement
with President Hayes in regard to his being
counted in? A. No. sir; | was appointed on
the recommendation of Judge Hunt. of Louis
lana; MIR. B0nZano, General Anderson, Gov
ernOr Packard and others.
Judge Campbell answered in response to
questions that he believed Packard to be the
legally elected governor of Louisiana, and was
chosen by the same vote that gave Mr.. Hayes
the Louisiana electors. If Packard had been
sustained by the administration he could have
maintained his government, The Nichols gov
upon mob to uphold it. The witness eluci-
dated his views at length on this question, and
gave his opinion that Packard received even
more votes than the republican electors.
G. Then, if Packard was not elected COVER
nor the Hayes electors did not carry Louisi-
ana? A: The same reasons and the same Oper-
alton OF law which gave majority of legal
votes to Packard gave them to the Hayes elec
tors.
c. Then, if Packard was not legally elected
governor the Hayes electors did not carry the
state. Does not that follow? A. do not know
whether it follows OF not. You can draw your
own inferences.
TO.Day's Testimony.
The committee met to-day at II o'clock.
Marshal Pitkin was recalled and quoted the
sections of the revised statues under which he
appointed deputy marshalS.
witness said he gave copy of the Taft (at-
tOrney generaIS) letter of instruction to
deputy marShaS and inspectors of election
Witness was not sure whether the Anderson
protest left the number of persons intimidated
in East Feliciana in bank or not. Anderson
did ask to see his protest after he made it, but
witness told HIM he didn't have it. Witness
fu ther said, Anderson indicated that he
thought L was lying, and of course resented
that by asking him to retire from the room.
Subsequently l received word from one or
TO shoot me at sight. James Casey was one
the messengers who brought me this word.
and he asked me if he should go out and
"maSh y Anderson.
THE LEGITIMACY OF THE PACKARD GOVERN
MENT.
General Butler then examined the Marshal
at length. He asked witness if he ever enter
tanned any doubt of the legality of the Pack
ard legislature. His answer was, " None what
ever" and added that if Packard had been let
| alone, he could have maintained himself with
out the use Of any United States troops; that
| there were organized bands of men who had
@ had given assurances to support him in bis
Mr.. Hiscock asked if this branch of the in
! quiry was opened, he would like to know how
| many witnesses would be called on each side.
General Butler said that to show the extent
| OF the great outrage of breaking up state
government in the Union, he was willing to
summon one thousand, two thousand, or even
Witness, continuing, said that the business
men wanted the Packard and Nichols trouble
to end, because their employees made up the
inent officer in the League said that If Pack
ard was recognized by the Executive. he
would turn over his command to support it.
captain, announced that it would support
Packard, II he was recognized 1t was cur
rent history IN New Orleans that
MONEY HAD BEEN OFFERED
to members of the Packard legislature to get
them into the Nichols legislature. A conSfd-
cradle number of the Packard legislators
what they should do, and then reported the
result of that interview to a caucus of the
Packard legislature. George A. j. SwaZey
toll tod y witness m that he was accosted upon the
stree by Gen. Mcmillan, who was a member
OF the Packard legislature, and now pension
agent at New Orleans. MCMILLAN told several
members OF the Packard legislature thai the
Hayes commission wanted conference with
1t. A committee of twelve was sent to the
commission. McVeigh was anxious to have
the Packard members absent themselves from
no use to hope for troops If you can make
fight for yourselves you can do it, but it will
oe wholly unsuccessful and you will be hung
to the lamp posts by the Nichols men. 1t is no
day." After that conference and these state
ments m 1h by McVeigh, witness said not over ten
lature were at the state house next morning.
The resolutions adopted by the Packard
legislature in caucus rejecting severely upon
the Hayes commission were read.
Witness read the testimony of the editor of
the New Orleans Democrat, which had been
eXpunged from the record of. the Nichols in
Vestlgating committee, to the effect that the
manager OF the New Orleans lottery company
had admitted that he bribed with money five
members of the Packard legislature to desert
to Nichols.
A translation was read from a German New
Orleans paper to the effect that Gen. Butler
was right in charging that the Packard legiS-
lature was dissolved by the use of money, but
that he was wrong in saying either the COM
mission or Hayes furnished the money. 1t
was uncOnstitutOnaly appropriated by the
Nichols legislature. The Hayes commission
acted merely the part of diSgraceful prOcurers
to put Nichols on his feet. The writer OF the
article, Pltkin testified, was member of the
Nichols Senate named Forster.
GEN. BUTLER SAID
that he had been called upon in New York
When he wrote the celebrated letter to Nc
Weigh about the commission, but had refused
to give 1t up. 1t was printed, however, by
some means. Some people call it newspape
be called 'theft."
Witness said that SwaZey said that during
the conference with the Packard republicans
and the Hayes commission, that Gen. Harlan
paced the room excitedly and said :-"They
tmeaning the cOmmisSion) had been as long
in louisiana as they intended to STAY and
the thing hattar ha fiya Inn