New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-07-01
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.rA1K WITH Mr. MATTHEW'S ABOUT LOUISIANA
OWN now take up another matter. From whom
aid you get the first information that the PACKARD Gov
eminent be broken up or oyerthr3wn recered
from STANLEY Matthews sometime between the lsth ana
25th OF February 1877 had heard rnmorS oeiC cnvS
the Information from Mr.. Matthews called upon nun
at his at wOneys and and 9 1Sdt fsI, some
sort of RESPONSIBILITY for Governor Hayes until the 4tn
OF March. Mr. Matthews replied; slnee you IAN Iii
much interest in getting the administration SO wen
started wish YOU would do the best you can or use
your influence TO prevent President Grant &
cited nv attention as the first tangible evidence
had that the dishonor and disnones hm thai II
occurred to me that il would be about the best Isg u
Grsnt should recognize ana ~ cant sSnd do
Mr. Hayes would be bound by ihe decls1n VI ~ disre
gard it," replied that thought u would DE about e
best thing that could happen TO nave Ihe r1cos b
absolute by Grant to give no option TO Hayes 9
70 give him the question adjudcaed question he
said no. that is not the best way II Is me
af the same time, or in response to an
nouiry from me- he said the intention was TO have th
aid 20 him aid not see how the President could help
recognizing and sustaining the faSKaIu 10 th came
votes and had the same title. He said he had been
looking into that and there was no difficulty apout u
turning Board canvassed the votes for Presena Eec
tors the votes for Governor were caIVssseu Nv .o
islafure SO the Electors and the Governor M %
their title from different sources fepeu tIat III
returns were the returns established by tne hetuhs
Roard and there were other electoral returns IN inc
State and that the Legislature had canvassed lhe
and declared Packard elected from those returns h eO
not remember that he made any reply TO that then
suggested another difficulty to hm-that II Nenols anu
Hampton were recognzed Two or SnrSe ou1 pro6aby
then have a Republican Administration coming nl.o
power with Democratic Senate. He replied that there
would be no trouble about that it would be, or had
been arranged 10 have Republican senators from tI3se
States. That is all the conversation hau WIN ni'N
In answer to another question: the witness testified
that this statement confirmed by dspath 10 lhb
TRIBUNE from Washington, February II, 1871.
Odd You afterward call on General Garteldf A
Yes and expressed fears lest the party and Adn-
istration were TO be dshonored by what feared was
going forward. During this conversation WIN nun nc
Hotel in Mr.. Matthew's room. The object OF the con
ference was to see II some GVn o1
by which the Packard Government conld DC aoaLuoheu
surrendered, or given up.
GENERAL 7. C. ANDERsON's EXAMINATION.
Mr.. Butler then read an extract from speech maze
by Mr. Foster and said he expected to be able to show
who wrote it, but he suspected 1t was written by
Southern Democrat. ,.-,.... 81,
the New-Or Returning Board, was then called ana
questioned by the chairman and General .b1ter. nc
said he was appointed the messenger 10 bring the
electoral vote TO Washington, and told how he delivered
the package because was not n form, one certi
cate OF the electors was wanting. when returned
my hotel" the witness continued. "unklng ,na, tnS
the end of the envelope and looked In ana u WIS h2
there tSe9 put o"S Tsacng there he following
Thursday morning"
oIWere YOU subsequently requested TO bring another
set of returns to Washington Ayes sir on the sub
seSnent day the Goth called on Mr. Clarke, the Cover
we're ready and he said they would be ready in
time On going into the office met Mr. Brewster one
of the electors coming out and he remarked that he had
signed the new certificates twas too fatgued TO make
the trip back to Washington, and ct my suggestion MT
turned over all the papers had and left.
Q.-Are you able to swear as to whether while you
Hni A.-NO, sir; do not think go; that must have
been done after left
by the chairman and stated that he signed them
Q.-Do you swear that you did mott Al do most
pOsitiyelY. All that / know about the signatures ON
these papers is what Mr.. Brewster told me when met
him about his having signed them. -,
Q-Have you ever heard any statement as 70 VINO ala
forge themf ANOthing; only what have seen IN the
newspapers to the effect that colored man named
Thomas Kelly messenger for Governor Kellogg, did
but know nothing whatever about the transaction my
self, and did see Kellogg in the room while was
Mr. Butler then examined the witness in regard to
the OF preparing the consolidated returns Tor
the of the Returning Board.
Odd il not turn out in fact that Packard had a
very considerable majority over the Hayes Eectorsf
Q.-Which eiector had higher number Of votes than
Rez aS e Nbss 10 oos into the mat
and without concluding the examination OF the VIII
Mrs. A. D. jerks was then recalled and gave to the
Chairman Sasn from eT s 5y n copies
she expected to receive the letters of Governor Kellogg
that had been asked Tor by next TUESDAY.
DENNIss EXAMINATION CONTINUED.
L. @. Dennis Of Florida, then recalled aud his
animation of yesterday resumed by Mr.. Butler.
Q-Prior to your coming here had you ever seen Gov
ernor Hayesi A.-No, sir.
Q.-How soon did you call upon hint A.-The day
after arrived here which think the 7th or 9Th Of
March. General Lew Wallace went with me and intro
duced me TO President Hayes In complimentary man
ner and the President replied that he had beard OF me
through Governor NOyes and Mr.. Chandler, and re-
marked that OF the few that this Admin
stratiOn could afford to take care Of ana asked me what
/ wanted. l TOLD him that l did not know what I
wanted then that not prepared for that question
but would make up my mind and let him know subse
At the second visit the witness told the President
what he wanted aud received some assurances At the
third visit the President gave him the following note
written a visiting card
SECRETARY SHERMAN: particularly desire that Mr.
L. g. Dennis, of Florida shall be appointed TO the first
suitable changed afterward TO good place. and think
he is well fitted for it. r. b. HAYES.
EXECUTIVE MANSION,
WASHINGTON, ID. c., April O, 1877.
DEAR SIR: am reliably assured that l.. G. Dennis Of
Florida, would make capital Special Agent Of the
Treasury. specially desire that his claim may have
your favorable attention: Sincerely, r. b. HAYES.
Hon. John Sherman etc.
After considerable delay he appointed to place
Q-Didyou know anything about architecture 7 A
N S but that was shst GH prGyo Laughter
General Butler-stop moment. Let me see II un.
politicians, but find am little behind You say
place improvised for you In the Supervising Archi
tectS once Ares, SIT. Jncfe was n vacancy, or
they made one at any rate filled one. Uaughter1
Q-What WIS your compensation Ask or seven
dollars q day went there several times but they
had thing for to do; and then did pay
much more attention to 1t, and did not 90 there very
often. Sometimes went there and sometimes did
but soon got sick OF that.
o-How long did that state OF indifference continue
A.-FOr nearly month. Then went 10 Governor Nc
Cormck and told him that put there TO draw
pay, did not think should lose my capacity 70 do II
he should allow me TO to Massachusetts lgreat laugh
teri and lie gave me leave Of absence for thirty days
Q.-YOtr family was there Ayes, sir. . = I
my xUba fha MIDI
ship ready for they would notify and would
come on and step into II. Laughter went 10 Massa-
chusetts, and remained there until December.
BY the Chalrman-Were you engaged the same
laborious duties all the time Al leave OF
absence for thirty days. but stayed niety or 100 days
and not hearing anything from Washington concluded
was forgotten and came on to remind them that 1
still lived. Laughter
BY Mr.. Butler-Did You get your payf A-when I