The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-06-06
Anderson. Cro.-Exnminnti

the Secretary Of the Senate the returns OF the
Electoral College OF Louisiana. submitted them
to the committee for examination. After read
ing the returns several members expressed
themselves as desirous Of being in tho House
at ~ o'clock. in order to vote on the Tariff BILL
and Tor that purpose recess was taken.
When the committee rcassembled. at as 7. NJ.
Gen. Butler offered the following resolution:
nl.res, james Z. Anderson swears tha, between May
IS and June T. ~77, the Hon stanley Matthews told hm
he,c iusi today h9i letter ,T.n tg President ~ re-
& a. wil secure your alPin'ment to soms Io.ton aud
be had received tho letter Mr. Matthews requesting
h'n TO- s', r, mn a., pa,e. & ia.,'ore g., c,,r g.,
The committee all the ORIGINAL letter. above mentioned
with copies any such letter supposed be written
thereof
The resolution was adopted.
Mr.. Gc rge c. Gorham. Secretary Of the
Senate. was then sworn and questioned by
Chairman Potter relative to the papers sub
mitted to the committee this morning. He
stated that the returns sent up from the par
isles to the Returning Board. and subsequently
produced before the Senate Investigating Com
mittee. were in the custody OF the Sergeant at
Arms Of the Senate.
James Z. Anderson was then recalled. and
Mr. Reed continued the cross-examination.
The copy Of the agreement between Anderson
and Weber. which Anderson stated in his testi-
mony on Saturday that he had mailed 10 Mr.
Stanley Matthew'S was produced by Mr. Cox IA
member of the commiueel, who had procured
1t from Mr. Matthews.
Mr.. James T.. Anderson was recalled and
further cross-examined 10y Mr.. Reed.
Being shown n document purportlng to
Weber. which h. yesteriay testified was in the
possession ot Stanley Matthews, the witness
said that i was not tho original but very fair
counterfeit Of it. Mr. Reed smiling. the witness
SAID:
" Preserve your smiles until after the inycsti-
CATION is over. and perhaps YOU will smile ON
the other side Of your face"
The Chairman demanded order.
Mr.. Reed asked witness n he could explain
why he was positive that this document was
not the original. Mr.. Anderson replied:
remember distinctly that the sheet OF pa
small red ink stains on It's face. one at the top,
the other about tho middle of tho page. and
erased those stains. leaving the marks OF the
eraser; finding no such marks upon this page.
know 1t is not the original.
Mr' toN salu thh ~ accordance WIN p sug-
g"stI9n from the Chhirmnn. he had called IN
Mr.. Matthews aud requested the production OF
the Anderson Web'r contract and that Mr.;
Matthew's, in compliance with that request. had
handed him this paper. The with rs still per
sisted IN declaring that !, was not the paper
which he had mailed to Mr.. Matthews.
The witness WAS cross-cNamined ninutely as
70 the circumstances attending the signature Of
the Anderson Weber contract. His recollection
was that II was signed ut the office Of Mr. Sey-
mour the notary public. but he was not sure
that one set OF the signatures There were two
seis 10 the same paper might not have been eN-
ecuted at the Custom House. lie inclined TO
the belief that both sets were signed at Sey
Mr.. Reed-You stated distinctly that the first
set OF signatures were executed at Seymour's
office.
The wtness-Then am willing 10 correct IT,
Q.-Now want to know whefhcr that is the
truth. or whether you said that with tho inten-
tion Of dec-ivlng this committee? A.-Allow
me TO say that have no interest in deceiving
this committee.
Q.-Of that. perhaps. we want some better
ussuruQp4y Alt a nlntfpr Of iulf
TO me whether you want better assurance or
Odd you see Weber sign the first one
wherever It was signed? Al say / do not
recollect ANYTHING as TO the FIRST signaturos-
whether we signed them in the Custom House
or where MY impression II that We signed
both Of them III Mr.. seymour office.
Q.-Do You say that this is not your hand
aereeinent as furnished by Mr. MatthewslY A.
| say that to the best of my knowledge and be-
lief 1t 10 not my handwriting.
Q.-Can you make it no stronger? Al can
excellent counterfeit oil my handwriting.
Q.-Do you know whether 1t Is your hand
writing or not? Al know that il is not.
Q.-And you swear that it is not your hand
writing? Al swear that it is not my hand
writing. That copy was not written by me.
Q-And your swear that THIS ls not tho orig
Q1Ts this Webers signaturc to iiY Ait is
neither Webers signature nor my signature.
Q-Dld you ever see that paper beloreF A.
have no recollection OF ever seeing that paper
Q.ls net ,his the gapfG,r TINT you mailed to to
the fact that the sheet OF paper on which wrote
tho agreement had two spots Of red ink on H.
one on the top right hand corner and one lust
member il very distinctly. and this pnper has
no mark Of any such erasurcs Then. too. IT
WAS double sheet OF paper and this is single
Q."Is that the signature to it Of Mr.. Seymour.
the notary publicr A.-As nearly as recollect
Q-You are pretty confident that It is? Al
do not say that il IS but to the best Of my recol-
lection and belief II l.. The seal Is his.
Q.-Do you know in whose handwriting the
paper is, ii it il not in yours 2 Al do not
4-I mean the body q it Al 90 not II, know: now:
writing? A.-The body OF it is counterfeit Of
mine. -, .,....,,,..
Alt WAS. without erasurrs or intirllnealons'
except the crasure of these two blots.
Q.-Wqs there any envelope on any 81 those
letters that yon got In the package OF weber
papersf A-There was not.
Q.-So that there was no postmark to show
that you over sent the Butler letter. A.-Not a
B'-Nor a postmark to show that you rver
sent the letter 10 u. A. Weber, A.-No.
Q.-NO posimark to show that you sent any OF
the letters which YOU claim 10 have found IN the
envelope containing tho Weber papers A.
None whatever.
Q,-Thcy are in yourhandwrlting altogether
A-AhOgethcr.
Q.-ls thare any endorsement on any Of them
in Webers handwritlngf Al do not think
O-Then thore Is nothing in Weber's hand
writing to identity themt A.-Nothing: so far
as know,
Q.-Is there anything in anybody s handwrt-
ing to identify themY A-Not to my khowl-
$50 that there is no corroboration Of your
stAtement ON the letters themselVest a. (sig-
pincantlyl YVES there will be.
Q.-There Is none on tho letters themselves
A-No, sir.
Mr.. CoX-Do YOU mean 10 be understood that
under other circumstances you would hckhOWl-
edge the signatures 10 be yoursY A,-Neither
oi the signatures looks very much like mine.
although at that time may have written somO-
what differently from whnt do now.
O.-IlOw about Webrr's sgnaturcP Al do
moi rerollect Wchers signature;
O.-Is this letter (hHnding u letter to wltness)
In your writing Alt is;
The letter was put in evidence as follows;
CusroN Iiousf. INV OKLFANs LA,l
COllkcIoK5 OTricf April Z 1871
To hs Hon Stiney MIuteaN . ,, a.. a..
DrAH SiK. Packard ON Monday. concluded that his
only hope lay his ability O iughtrn the f!eslehl lY
thr.aened exposure Of rascalB committed dullhg the
mast campaign aud his agents nave been al Morh since
then endeayorng to collect evidence. lie mas sent Inr
me three times during the past two dlys ana Yesterday
Two of his trusted friends in order 70 ihuuce me 20
with them. and 10 convince me that the fIcsusnl eeun
moi throw him over gave the outlines OF pan Dy wneh
they claim they brilg him he Prssldenu 70 !. Nh
yixt Three of the electors On The kspubean esAst w
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