Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-06-26

marked in these words, Show little the news
papers know" Pltkin then addressed further
inquiry regarding the letter. and Mrs. jerks re-
piled that the letter had never left New Orleans.
Whenever he mentioned the letter at all he
mentioned Sherman letter. Did not think
Mrs. jerks spoke Of it as the Sherman letter.
| BY Mr.. McMahon-Did you ever meet Ander-
son IT, the North american Office? A. Yes,
once.
Q. Did you go in to see him? A. Well, 1
do not think SO. In fact I never was in the
North Anaericon Office in my Life.
@. Do you remember ever having an inter-
1 view with Senator Conkling with regard to the
Anderson protest2 A. Yes, sir, have had
several conversations with Conkling:
@. Sypher was present at the interview in
question, was he not? A. Yes, sir.
/ @. Didn't Sypher explain the circumstances
connected with the Anderson protest? A. Yes,
sir; Sypher gave history Of the case, much
of which was new to Senator Conkling as well
as myself.
@. When Senator Conkling asked you about
the blanks in the protest, what did you reply?
A. think replied, in substance, the same
as l have to-day in my prepared statement
that had no knowledge of the existence of
any blanks in the protest
@. Did Sypher have the Matthews letters
/ with him at this interview? A. / think not
I but he gave description of them.
The witness then stated, in reply to further
! questions, that there were not many, If any,
Democratic witnesses examined during the
Louisiana investigation, and further stated
| that the witnesses were all paid by the govern
| ment
By Cox-Calling your attention to the con-
versation you had pending the time of the
| Presidential election, or thereabouts, please
state to the commission what conversation, if
any, you recall as having with Judge Levissee,
offers made to bride, and state fully what oc-
Cured A. About three or four days prior to
the assemblage Of the electoral commission,
June Z, Levissee entered my Office at A. NJ,
under considerable excitement, and said he
| wanted private interview. He then said to
made to him by somebody in the Democratic
interests. [ don't recollect whether
asked him who they were or not.
At all events he said to me this: Il am run
ming great deal Of hazard. 1 am liable to
serious misconception as to my motives, and
want some one in whom I can confde, who will
stand sponsor for me in case any mlsrepre-
sentation should ensue. I then advised him to
60 ahead, appear to listen to those overtures,
and think impressed on him the Importance
of going behind to the principal of the agents
who might offer any brides. After that he
made two or three visits, up to the time of
| meeting the electoral commission, mentioned
the names of Walter Pugh, and Mr.. Asher-I
| think that was the name, and possibly Mr.. Her
| nandez, but am not sure as to that. He came
each time to report progress. think it was at
the last interview on this subject that he told
me he had meeting with one of these gentle
| men-with which one l don't recollect-and
! that he met with his companion, third agent;
! and that the destined proffer had been made as
I now recollect of 100000: This was at the
last interview. He said he had made an ap-
| pointment at such an hour, which had almost
! approached then. and that he wanted to stay
with me in the office and secrete himself. l
went outside and told my usher to
allow no one in the Office, and to report
| me out. The door was locked and he remained
there till shortly before the assembling Of the
electoral college. telegraphed by my private
wire to the State House, that Judge Levissee
| was there and would be there in due time. I
| think sent him down in my own cab am
not sure about that Furthermore I know
nothing.
@. Did you know Of the borrowing Of a GER
tain 500, 900 by people in New Orleans which
finally was paid by a note on the Union Ma
tional bank of Chicago? A. No sir. All the
funds know about were two or three thousand
| dollars sent down there by Mr.. q. Chandler, in
! the latter part Of January, and the greater
! part was spent sustaining the Metropolitan
police force at the State House.
stating that troops and money would be fur
| nished? A. We had a voluminous cores
| pondence with parties in Washington regard
| ing the election, but / do not recall on that
point.
Q. At the time you had the conversation
with Anderson here in July, and he showed
you certain papers, did you advise him to put
those papers in custody of Gen. Butler? A.
l may have possibly said that.
q. What was your object in advising him?
A. Well have conferred with Gen. Butler
regarding political matters, for many years,
| and he has been warm friend Of mine, and I
thought it was a matter he ought to know about.
l had personal object in doing so. I after
forwards telegraphed or wrote to Anderson in
September or October that Conkling might
take cognizance of this matter if his counsel
would consent, and may have stated I would
pay his expenses to Washington if he would
come and bring the papers.
@. Did you have any interviews with any
members Of the returning board during the
count? A. Yes, sir. 1 met Gov. Wells on the
street and inquired about the condition of
affairs, and he said something like this: That
it was all right and that same day addressed
a telegram to Senator West communicating
only time had conversation with a member
of the returning board.
@. Do you know whether the members of
the returning board required any assurances Of
reward to enable them to 60 on with the count?
A. Nothing of the kind ever came to my
knowledge,
O. Do you know what papers were brought
here in the spring of 1877 in relation to the
proceedings Of the returning board? A. That
was the paper brought here by Emil Honore
candidate for secretary of state on the Packard
ticket. He came in compliance with request
of the House committee and reported to them.
They were returns of some kind don't re-
member what. The secretary of state was the
proper custodian Of such papers. don't know
whether they have been returned to him.
O.. Do you know where those papers are
now? A. No. sir. supposed they were with
the proper custodian, the Secretary of State in
Louisiana in the archives, but know nothing
about it. After Mr. Honore's return o Louis
lana he reported to me what he had done, and
then asked Howe to get French, Sergeant-at-
Arms Of the Senate. to take charge Of the pa
pers to keep the Knott-Field committee from
getting them, and afterwards 1 understood
they were deposited in the Senate committee
room on patents.
Q. What objection had you to allowing
these papers to be brought before the House
committee? A. Well, it was rather partizan
battle. and preferred to have the papers be-
fore my political friends. At the time saw
the box containing them the lid had not been
taken off, and the box was in the committee
room.
@. What became Of theoriginal paper drawn
up by Anderson and sworn to by him before
Mr.. Woolfys? A. Last November, when I
got home l looked through large accumula-
ton of papers I had, and finally found it, and
l sent it BY mail, enclosed in a note
to Senator Conkling. don't know where
it is now, further than that
sent it to Senator Conkling for the purpose Of
convincing him that Anderson statement that
he was drunk when he signed it was not true
wanted to vindicate the statement made to
Conkling that it was in his (Anderson's) hand
writing.
Witness was here shown letters signed by d.
A. Weber, and identified them as being in his
handwriting.
c. Have you called on Senator Conkling
for that document since you have been here
this time? A. Yes,sir. The next morning after
got here I called on him and