New-York tribune., 1878-04-18
THE "oUTsPoKEN REVIEW"

The World published yesterday morning
detailed statement OF Senator Conklings views WIN
regard 20 the Administration. purporng TO have been
gathered by a correspondent in Utica in the course "f
several conversations with the Senator. The main
points OF the interviews are given below:
"WcII, Senator would like to know whether yon
think the true history OF the Louisiana electoral bust
ncss uill eyer be tod M C2nHreSs ana So oT % AEON nt
see how it can be kept down There are 100
many avenues Of information opeped to-day 20 max
coucea mcut OF avail much longer. No reasonable man
can doubt there some kind oi bargain between the
friends OF Nichols and that man Hayes ana hat StaI
lev Matthew'S and SEetman were prlyy 10 IT, a very
t , siv VII the barin was and exactly how
IL T carried ont and Yankee ingenuity Will be
to fnd means Of getting ~ the inf0rmatlOn eau
not saw now soon the facts will out for something
NAV occur any day force them TO the surface IL vi"
probably ba Dest 70 let them come ont naturally
"What will b, the result =
"TLr result will be that the whole country will he ap
palrd by the dishOnOr of tins ADMINISTRATION 'eu YOU
sr tsnt never in the history OF this nation has lhcre
hren in Mn, entire four years Of ln Administration so
irc corruption hartcrIng Of Offices, rewardng Of po
ca favorts Traffic with political leaders and bargain
and sale of the electoral franchise during this past
v@ar People viii not believe IL until the proof is shown
them; but the proof VIII be fOrtlcOming People say
that Hayes Is good and means well, but they 90
not know what they are talking about. Mheh an % In1
facts known about this Administration 10 one VII
attempt the inan on account or ms suppgSeu
goodness yet because he Is weak and lshorahl.
acts that have dsgraced tins ADMINISTRATION nase "ii
been done before the opened eyes OF the Prcsideht
Senator Conlng tEen went to speak Of the danger
of civil war which he believed existed in the weeks
which followed the reassembng Of Congress In Decem-
Der, 1876. He continued:
.Onc evening went to the White House and fcund
Grant more gloomy than usual lie had come 10 believe
II inevitable that hs term should end IN bloodShed' IN
the course Of long consultation ! suggested 10 MN
that there seemed 10 me way out OF the trouble. ana
only one aud suggested TO him the pau Of the Elec,
toral Commission. He grasped II IN mOhcI ahd
declared 1t the very thing ana mat u Wou'u Sfrc
the country. pledged hlm TO secrecy, sa,lhs Wig
"nrs il would be sure o bc defeated by the Democrats
and lett him much relieved In the morning, Wheii
went 10 the White House, found sherman WIN III,
Presidcnt-who had told bin OF the pla-1nd DON OF
them expressed themselves With uuhouudtd salsi'c
tion. In the opinion of President GrJnt-and must
saw That 1 cuucurrcd with Lim-ns submission OF tue
question 90 the highest legislative and judicial rep
Tcsentatycs Of the people WAS AL tha' saNeu Us ion
II Wa exceedingly difficult TO do ANYTHING with the
Democratic Senators aud COngrcssmrn az The start nn
have no idea Of the delicate and DIN, ,u.t work o Tie
committee Of fourteen who drew mp the act Iof he Or
fought over not only section by section but lnc 1y e
and word for word At times II seemed Impossible mat
our WORK, because majority o the fourteen "cIc AD'"-
uicly convinced that this was the only method oi pre-
venting civil war and reaching amy conclusion on ihn
presidential question zone OF The DgmOrrauc mem
beers Of The committee have told me since then that lhry
return They thought the differences iriccJneabc' ana
were determined Ia yield notuing.
me- soon after the Electoral Commission hc-au It's
work became aware thai something wrong was - hg
part OF the HAYES men was that would be opposed TO
all max shifts or bargahns a. most certainly shnuI
he. From the moment that the commission began rs
work had an uneasy feeling. THINK everyday knr"
;hcre wa, intrigue fons on p'l"eoh u ,nc , y
Je,accu Washington md Columbus kept tine Ohio man
thoroughly informed OF all that was doing ~ his De-
halt"
Senator Conlllng then went 10 speak OF the Prcsi
dent n his relations to the South and OF his friends
lie SAID in a word that the President was owned 10y tho
South. The Republican Senators who vote with the
Administration, said Mr. Couklng "are easily counted
up There's Stanley Matthews and Chr'tlancy at tie
west Hoar, Dawes and Burnside at the East. aud Con
over aud Patterson, probably at the South Some Of
these are only family with the Administration per.
Laps but ! want 10 give Hayes credit Tor MI
that he has gained; Or rathei' saved out OF
OF the Senate with MIN when ho began operations.
MI Coukliug SAID that the Administration had great
de- of money az It's disposal. The President VIII
ing to spend 100000 TO start newspaper In washing
ton.
tOn as follows:
"Tberc has been, then. no reform under Hayes-not
even In the Civil Service :"
Ih@rr least Of all Hayes has distinguished himself
since hs Inauguration by making the worst set Of ap
pontmens that ever disgraccd the Nation The number
OF nominees for office now before cOmmiticc- against
whom serious charges recorded, Il formidable and
there i another long st OF charges aghinsl those
fornidabic and 1t would disgust the people with tncr
President II tney could read the record IL VI" hl coue
out some time. II Hayes should send In message on
~ service rcoro LIST Of these select friends and
yOritcs the President will be published, and IL VIII
NIKE such an astounding commentary upon Prcsi-
dents words would discOncCrt more philosophical
Cabinet than that in which Evafts and schL hgure as
Look for instance. at that man Hlllard. whom the
President has Minister 10 Brazil Tho documents
presented TO the committee show him 10 be political
adycnturer whose private character is utterly bad and
vet, with this knowledge his name has been pressed
by the President, and he has been sent 10 the
court Of Dom Pedro-a monarch who has been
particularly friendly 10 us and 10 whom II ought 10 be
our pleasure 90 send the best Of whose services Tho
country could avail itself Look nt the United states
maTRhashps IN the South. good man II displaced IN
recommendation Of Gordon, Democratic senator
In East tennessee Nike j. Naldrou was nominated last
spring and again nj the special sesrOn-his nonlha On
IL ling with both sessOns-aftcr having been commits
stoned last summer ahd egaIJ 700 his chl % dItv ,
really too bad to passas the President toundbut
would have supposed at the time mat Ills ID mo
cratic caIPo. DaEget "as oy oElDS % ilh .0 'h ho
place IN the stale OF lcnncssee-and p'rhhps no
was, for the purposes for which lie was wanted HIS
slngb the t and SHOW You scores Of such
where were nominated simply because OF political
Obligation pressure by friend OF the Administration;
character Yet the President In the meanwhile keeps up
such chatter about reform ~ Civil Service that the eO-
pie content to take the word Tor The deed ana allow
themselves 10 bc openly hoodwinked. You may take my
word for It, that this subject VIII be thoroughly dis
cussd AT no distant day. aud then there VIII be no e
cape from the consequences for either President or CaD
net. There must be day OF reckoning for all tins eN
- In the meantime, suppose criticism Of the Admlh-
istratiOn will cOnunuci"
'In my opinion It Is not possible TO speak in too ex-
treme manner Of this Administration. Look at lts
usurpatiOIs OF power In ono IL openly dictates inc
election OF United states Senator In order 10 do this
It bargains with the man to whom the succession prop,
eTy belongs TO step out OF the way promising O use M
hhnence-the lhnthee oi an army OF m he
their poAuons-tO MAKE MN speaker OF thc
House. People don't stop TO think what this act
really is. President who holds tho veto power
OF legislation promises TO interfere Ia legislation u
and control IT'S whole course by debating who shall
be Speaker OF the House Of Representatives. But ths
the most audacIOus usurpatiOn the part OF the
present incumbent or the White IIOuse. He has over
tT0Wn the Tighiu Government OF Louisiana and rccog-
nized there armed usurpcr Of the Governors char
Packard, was elected recognized and IN power whrn
Hayes interviewed That man looked on and consented
when Nichols put himself at the head Of 10000 drilled
ana Organized rebel veterans, placed himself III power
drove police from the streets, the magistrates nom
then offices the Judges from their bench ana rtNOu
tuniZcd the State IL act Of treason such as
would nave hanged man In old times, but The PfcHi