The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-08-14

obJc ton. hut he Thought II had already becn
Mr. HIscocE said that he did not suppose
that The witness. Democratic gentleman con
ncted with the Democratic press of New
Orleans. would be. charged with mission to
terms. just terms. for tho Democracy OF the
state ~ Louisiana with n view to influencing
this. Returning Board when that boards
anxiety was to Keep the Democracy and Nichols
the witness could not have been selected Tor the
purpose OF propitating. influencing and in
oihnvng Hayes counted in No. He did i'd not lot suS'
pose that whoever committed that crime com
nlitted i in the interest Of the Democracy Of tho
Con. ,Butlcr,-fthIn ink they did.
| Mr. liiscock-I Disagree entirely with you
Dcmocratc colleagues on the committee II
this evidence Is competent at all II is for the
/ this position 1t would resolve itse into an in
yTs rNI lSSkingto The impeachment Of The
| their power under tho resolution appointing
them; Il tho object OF this investigation was
emcnt sV Of the puScan garry pHr an D o 1
nifty to make what capital they can against Mr.;
clements Of the Republican party chance 10
Mr.. Potter said that a Congressional inves,i-
gaton IS mn inquiry into facts. Neither second
| nry cvidenccnor any evidence ought to be taken
authorized to inquire; The question now was
| whether inquiry could be made ms To action in
| Louisiana out Of which resulted the establish
| ment ot the Nichols Government The question
hadalready been dccidedb by the committee when
| he was overruled. Hcsupposed that II WAS now
intendcd to connect this matter with the acts ot
ths ne, E,c ,o E?mns1i2p in Washington ma
| form of the question might be Objectionable.
! but the purpose of the inquiry was allowable
lie disclalmcd any desircto aid anybody To- air
| any theories. hut believed the inquiry had no
| purpose except t. ascertain facts. ana that Gen.
Buffers proposition was proper one Tho
| question was then Put to the witness;
, state as well as you can the substance or
Ne words, II yen can, 81 your e9mmunlcnlion t.
tonmuycidl soi-disdm Republican news
paper
was not the Immediate result OF the convcrsa-
Was your seeing Mr. Haycs the matter
upon which you were cOnVersing."
fancy u led TO insure favorable response
from Gov; Hayes, SO that was not to rely on
my mere letter. did not read the letter |
suppose 1t WIS inadvertently sealed | know
that the communication was made IN consc-
quencc " t' conversation with Halstead"
Was the subject matter Of your conversation
with Hqistcad something that was understood
"Ycs. | said to Mr.. lIal-toad. II we have 60,
TO unlond anything. We have got 10 unload The
least valuable thing ~ the cargo. We Thought
n most IMPORTANT thing To- DO was TO save the
state of Louisiana.
statc rs well as you can the substance or
the words of the conversation
INK Hoard, | said could not swear what they
Mftuli lN. hut knew A. cN"TltHf iY Knew, what
they proposed do;. that wrwishei To- save the
state Govrrnment II We could; that W. had got
10 take up Ntl whatever hors"man We could ~
long rs our lr-e won. know thai as he was
horseman Dc would unler-'and that lie
said he Thought Wa wcr' anxious To- save our
to throw oyerboard any u Ii The ga cargo r:G
We would throw ont what was Of least
with Judge Matthews. l said lad moi talked
with him much. He explained that we could
get on very well with Matthews that Matthews
| haI boon Chairman Df the Convention pf ~
and was so near las that we would not have So
far to 20 ms with some others. Hastead said,
not know that had Il letter u n,rolnctian'
lialstend said, Hayes means To- DO right To the
Inyo- means l.. deal with The stat Govorninen,
sonal ,vchemcnse Of the pcorc. We
m ani knxw where We are going to
and it looks a. il We nre beaten They huvf
the returning Boari tho army and navy. and
Mn pr ,k 5 of J W. Pgy IgGh' 70 Mn
Roberts. | think You hqd better g and see
lIaye-. Then said 10 Mr. lIal,ield. have a
letter ~ introduction t. Hayes. nav" Thought
~ going. II has boon suggested that somebody
ought 70 - AMI Ani ont how he sign3s-,somc-
body who could NJ, a,i.mptiO comnitthe Demo
cratic party 70 Mr. Hayes. although nobody
could DO that We wanted t? G. nm idc9
will flN that and he sent despatch 10 Gen.
Comfy. saving that would come To- Columbus II
had time, / told him bat would take time
doavor To- find ont myself He gave me- a letter
Of Introduction. Inadvertently sealed / sup
pose. VIII oh gay" me more facility 10 know vi ~
! wanted 10 M" thAn | othcrwi- should
have h4l. reached Columbus at midnight N
80 il he inform you that he got reply to his
I do not know whether he, got arcply. I
went Ia see Gen. Comfy. editor Of the Ohio State
jornai He said: You had better not 70 10
GOV. Haycs He made ~ Arrangement ioIr, GOV.
Hayes 10 meet me ~ his house Gov. Hayes
v. ', xom .r s,r" mo Si' s ar
account. MS near as you can. beginning ut tho
beginning. Of what took place between you and
Well i was presented TO Gov Hayes. and
alter som" unimpotant compensation. | gave
him my letters and he read them. He asked
und Ter that i was matter " ! srcat
d"ieacv hnt | wished Z, ask him. In ease
%nm arc re You s''I propo S the H'T ra.p s
~" smte Goycrnment Of, Louisiana H.
said don't know that understand YOU
mas lc, llgnt beipr" thi- lhlng j. through be-
~ over To- til" IN II March. We cannot help Il.
Iui il We feel that YOU are friendly 70 rs We
How d. your people Tel about this / r.,
. Y.ird, | cannot state how any nii, diva,
II throw overheard onythns-it we
nave g,t 20 lose ANYTHING we arc going e.
huyr carried the STATE hr l9"oo however
the Indications are thar without fail our party
will be- counted out H., said ne iidnt want
IA" Presidency. nnl"ss ho got II fairly AMI II b"
was fairly elected d" wanted b. have H. told
. him | understood it well. and the rcsre talle
Democrats of the North 50 understood H. He
asked: Why have You southern men not gpnc
into the Republican party in order 10 purify it =
| said il would Doe lik" "A pure woman
. going into bagnio fortlc purp9se of purifying
r. H. when the result would be- only o. dcn0rali1e
h"rself. Said h"; ! cannot say much about
this matter Ny letter II acceptance wae no
empty form. believe that the Intelligence of n
country ought To- run it, He said som' CONF
= pinNcniary things about southern mon provin.
, outrageous and generous, though Ovcrh"aring.
He said there Was Il good deal ~ good i'm the
= Southern people. that was fully appreciated in
70 ! the North"
Gen Bntir,-You were mlking from holl.. 80 %. :,
, enc 10 hall past seven 49,, @..I you have
given the details in about fifteen minutes. Can
you not give some more oi the Conversations
" On, We were talking about the canvass in
Ohio and n thousand and one lings, about tho
nominations at Cincinnati, ana "rrat many
other THINGS"
" lid You say anything to him about any thing
} bringing about a fight between the black mun
and the white man p