New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-03-22
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

Ordered printed, and recommitted.
Mr.. WADDELL Dem, n. c., chairman of. the Com
mttee Post Offices and Post Roads, reported the bill
TO establish postal savings depository as branch Of
the Post Office Department. and and in refundng the
Understanding indebtedness OF the United States Or
fered printed ana recommitted
The SPEAKER appointed as Conference COMMITTEES
on me part OF me House ON The Military Academy BIZ
MT. CHALMERS dem, Missy introduced bill pro-
vdiBg tor the organization of the Mississippi Improve
ment Commission Referred.
NAVY APPROPRIATIONS.
TWO MILLIONS LESS THAN THE EsTIMATEs-wHLs
NOT YET CONTENT.
The House then, at 1885 p w., into Committee
of the Whole Mr.. Carlisle lDem, Ky) in the chair on
the Naval Appropriation Bill The amount appropriated
is 81 o4S6S4 of which is for the Of the
officers of the Navy So 100000 for the pay OF the men,
and S6i5400 for the pay OF the retired list The bill
rles or clerks TO commanders vessels fiom civil le
but that line officers not above the grade Of lieutenant
shall be detailed to perform the duties OF such secretaries
Mr.. CLYMER Dem, PENN proceeded 10 explain the
provisions of the bill. He said the bill had been agreed
to unanimously by the Committee on Appropriations.
The appropriation recommended was 81 100000 less
e east an the ssf for @ next e
year.
The Clerk then read the bin by sections
Mr.. WILLIS dem, N. " offered amendment fix
ing the pay Of mdshipmen at $500 when ON sea duty,
waiting orders. being 500 less than they
Mr.: BLOUNT Dem, Ga) favored reducing the pay OF
should he singled out from the rest Of the officers
MI WILLIs-If my friend from Georgia ur. Blountl:
fluid that before the bill is passed amendments will he
offered which VIII effect saving of at least $4,000.
The amount which the midshipmen receive is in
excess of their needs and tends to demoraze them.
Mr.. TOWNSEND Rep, N Y)-Every member wants
10 be economist There il nothing that goes home %
the bosons OF his constituents ike the idea of their repre-
sentative being great economist Every one must
commence somewhere. The gentleman from Ncw-IOrk
(Mr. Willis reminds me OF the clergyman who being not
flied by his congregation that he
addicted preached
scribes and Pharisees because they had friends That
economy upon because they have no friends, and no
more votes than the heather Chinee. TLaushterJ
they have friend that these midshpuien neither
scribes Pharisees; and it is because want TO
exercise over them paterna care thai do not
them TO become corrupted
The amendment was rejected.
Mr.. WILLIS also moved reduce the number Of
Navy chapams tiom twenty-four to fourteen. He said
TO tudre officers OF the Navy that there is surpusage
Of fn"%S II IKE seTySe ks%seT yd ,Dee, to
form the Navy If you take away the means Of grace
Laughterl
The amendment was opposed by Mr.. GooDE Dem,
MIR. WILLIS also moved to strike out the approTria-
ton tor fOrythree mates and TO abolish that
Here was an opportunity, lie said for saving $4,000
Mr.. CRITTENDEN Dem, Mo-, a member OF the
Naval Committee said that he did not wish that com
mee 10 he put in false position by the offering OF such
Mr.. WILLIS disavowed any authority from the com
mitee,
The amendment rejected.
The Committee of the Whole agreed TO the provisions
in the bill prohibiting appointments from civil lie TO be
Secretaries clerks 10 commanders directing Tie
SeIe,ay OF the Sayy to Institute Isd PgIS , The
evil force be consolidated and reduced at least Onehaf
DISCUSSION on RONCLADs.
The appropratng 81 100000 for the preserva
zion OF vessels the stocks and in ordinary having
been reached. Mr.. DANFORD Rep. Ohio) moved 10 iu-
the amount to $2,500000.
Mr.. DANFORD said-The Navy has too many
vessels now There only vessels In the Asiac
SQUADRON while England has about forty vessels. The
United States is attempting introduce trade with
South America and yet II has only three vessels there
II IL desires 10 open up commerce with the sodth
tries by the power of the General Government
Mr.. CLYMER Dem, PENN opposed the amendment.
He said that nearly oneaif oi the amount appropriated
last year for the Bureau Of Construction ami Repair had
been applied purchase Of lumber, whica is to-day
roiiing IN the different navy Yards an ouiaSe ana
has been committed by some one for
purpose, but he would not name either
vor OF finishing the uoncads upon the stocks
they might be good Zoe hmhor defence but they could
mistake the future Navy OF the country VIII consist of
stike blow, or show tnelr heels necesSaiy III
case of with England these fast clipper ships car
known that England can DO brought quicSer
by that means than by The sinking OF her whole IRON
Mr. CALKIN: rep. md inquired how much the ships
OF the stocks had already cost. ,,,.
that. but during the last eight years there have been
appropriated for the bureau Of Construction and Repair
I
Mr. CALKISs-wnat have We got to show for it now
Mr. CLYMER-We have got q few huks scattered
through all tue oceans, that are dscrcdahe 10 us as
Mr. MccooK REP, n YIN what respect are they
sir CLYMER-In their power, in their speed and in
Mr. McCOoK Mention one vessel that IS discredtabe.
Mr.. CLYMER-rake tac Narragsnseit. rhe Navy is
dsreditable complained of By The officers Of
the NavJ. II friend will read tine testimony Of Al:
Porter before the Committee on Naval Affairs OF
the last Congress he will learn the fact.
Mr.. McC0OK-i have no doubt the Navy has depre.
catrd efficiency from what IL in former days hut
Admiral Porter would never ALLOW himself III the
presence Of committee, to dsparagc the Navy III
comparison with any other navy He 10 too good sailor
MIR. CLYNER-Irefer you to his testimony.
Mr.. HAYES Rep IL)-Are you In favor of finishing
Mr CIYMER~Oniy on condition that after survey
ana examination by board OF officers tne board repors
stocks originally wooden vcsses that were beng
rebuilt OF IRON When complete they Will he new YES
defence That the Government viii possess The
Government has fifteen llghJraughi monitors, but no
Mr.. BANKS QRep, Mass.)-One great cause for the
expeusyeness OF TIE Navy IL the multiplication OF i,
speech made by The gentleman CNlr Cymer Tor more
party party out 81 iS%er ana the condition Of tnies mas al
ways beer defended icy the party III power Ihe Naval
establishment attacked when Inc Oregon question
came up, just gentleman (Mr. Ciym,Il has at
tackled il, aud IT wLs defended by Mr. Benton. who
said that the Government bad al the material nects
ssry for defence. although not ia the form O Sps anu
that that tue best preparation that could be made
Mr. WiIITIHORNE Dem. Tenn cOncurro'i WITH MI
Banks the lpensiveness OF bureau systems III navy
Yards lie spoke of the Beira at The Mare Island NAVY
Yard the relss of wIicn estimated by Board OF
Inspection 10 cost 100000 but when tue w"ikncn got
down mbcrs they found them rotten he held ia
his hand piece Of them exhibit ana now the ie
PAIRS OF that vessel viii cost five or x times ~ lnuch rs
The estnlne. He argued that the House should not
make any except actual necessary appropriations for
the Navy until after iul, air honest REVIEW ana sur
vey the condition Of the Navy.
Mr.. BANKS usep.. Mass I'm The pres at condition oi
The world, 'hcre ~ nothing more self eV
United states Government should be
ready take such position ~ honor ana interests
The l. far distant when II VIII De
ol,i,gpd def ont the and maritime