New-York tribune., 1878-12-17


Mr. BLAINE opposed the amendment Of Mr.. Butler;
and said Inere might be a case where witness would
be embarrassed by testifying openly He would nave
the wHole matter OF open sessions leit Win the
Mr.. BUTLER said the Senator had spoken
about aud beng alleged IN regard
10 depriung citizens OF thrir rights: ineIe
was not partlc,e Of proof Of the TACT; Mr.. BUI,,
LER O Senator, part representing the state Oh
SCUM Carolina, desired 10 40 the senate ana 10 t
country, tha the people Of his State desired sne acs
complete fullest Investigation winch could Oe nade'
anu any witness aDpeaIe ed before the cOmmiLe III.
South Carol could testify Just Us safely as ne cOu IN
Mr. EUsiIs (Dem. LaJ denied that witnesses were In
undated IN Louisiana. 1t ed To him rs an extra
ordinary situation for tue Senator from Name TO occupy,
wnen III advance OF the examination oil slnge "ilhtss
the Hon senator took the Uerty OF statiDE 10 the
Senate the people of the country hat the people OF
Louisiana mad 10 more nights as voters han the nhao
itants OF senegsmba. He cOud demonstrate mat the
elections IN Louisiana bdVr been ialr ana peaeeu' anu
that there great many Reasons why the DeDo-
| cratic candidates were elected.
M. BLAINE (Rep, Me.) said the Senator from South
Carolina possessed affected great Ignorance OF
past events South Carolina He re erred 10 troubles
STATE aud sad he nad TWO hundred letters glyng
Oeais great Outragrs tho rght OF suffrage II the
mtimidauon he would leave 10 the committee as TO
whether he doors shoG be opened or not and not let
the witnt sses we and COOfed, be not He'd tnal the
doors would opened, ami tney appeared before the
cOmul tee thev would do at their peril
Mr. BUTLER tDem., $ C said If the Senator desired
full and lar nyestlgalon ah ne GAINED, ne WOuu wore
Tor the amendment TO open the doors ar BntIrl ~
he understood tnat Senator TO say in his speech on
Wednesday last that he based his statemrnts upon
newsp,prr publieatUus If newspaper statements were
evidence tne Senator from Maine well rs hnI-
self would have been hung ana quartered long ago
He did no 20 say that newspapers DID not com
nun car trutu, but when correspondents sent 10
hls country To HrJe down everything pad about MS
people aud suppress ali that was good, he thought it
was time TO Complain. He (Mr Butlcn could 60 into
MHue with corps OF detectives ana make the etate
stencl iu tnc nOsirls OF Lle world.
| Mr. BLAINE-YOu have the right to do so under this
utOn.
Toe amendment OF Mr. Butler was reeced-yeas, 80;
nays, 30-a Strct party vote.
The question then being on the amendment of
Mr.. Blaine, above stated, MIR. DAVIS D,m., W. Va)
moved to amend provide tnat the Committee or
any subcommittee should sit with open dobrs when re-
questd d to do so by any member OF the committee
Mr. BAYARD tDeu, De j said that 50 Tar this resolu-
uon aud its amendments had been acted upon almost
WIN unalimly; way should IL nOt cohInnef nc
hoped the senate would unanimously agree that
no such thing as secret in!usltion should DC
held. He Lad been on lnVteugaling committees
In pp and else where, and came before the
committee WI" sWOre 10 JUST Whdt Ihey pleaseG inns
snoud MOI be pa'iy question: ana me votes ne had
gwen had been 10 prevent being such. He hoped thus
Investigation would be conducted on the principles that
justice everywhere iays down Tor lle elucdaton OF
truth.
bJih of Senate and House, in all like since the
formation of tue Government
Mr.. BAYARD dem. De) said he member OF
the spec al Committee whcA sat six weeks in NewYOrk
investigating affairs uf the Custom House there;
that eXamu augn VS. conducted III public.
Mr. HOAR rsep, Mass) inquired II the question
whether there shoud be open or closed doors not
lett with tue committee
Mr. BAYARD replied in the affirmative.
MI. HERMAN Dem, n, " favored the amendment.
Mir. MEKEINON Dem, n C) said he could not con.
OF better plan to encourage perjury than by hay
Mr. HOWE GRcp., Wis., related tho case of witness
IN Louisiana who was native Of the State, who was
aiIorWard killed. and II is said account of the test
mOuy icn ne gave 10 Congressional Committee.
Nj. BLAINE tRepr Me- said That the Senator from
ONO Ldg Tnurnar) argued that property and intcll-
geuce rude the south if that is So tnc people possessing
tHem w.i have thousand opportunities to innuencc
tue Judgment Of the cOnmllteo where those who are
nged have lie was free to say that free cleo
uon IN The sense OF the Constitution was never known
In the south There man Ia Viz gina. GcOr-
gia Florida who dared TO come up and vote for
Mr WlIHEKs (Dem.. yaJ-There were votes cast for
Mr. Blaine (contiuuiuy)-And in 1874 no one in The
South would vote for James G.. Burney.
MI 1870 SeI., 80 IT, ~ i,,, no one thefe
Nj HERMAN Dem, n. v said he had always been
in favor elections unswHyed by bribery, money,
anything else except persuasOn but mat had nothing
to DO with the amendment II neH were charged with
ANYTHING wrong they should have an opportunity to
Mr MCMILLAN rep. Mimi said tnat this subject
had brought To the attention OF Congress through
message o. the President 1t did not arise from
Mr. RANSOM dem, y. C)-I hope the Senator from
Name viii pardon me, but do not think that Sena-
tor has used peaceful! argument whom he declared
there has nren fair election In tho South. u
thought proper could take that glove and nersuadr
any patriot 10 retire from such position will not say
IL l. ca umny upon the history southern people.
will leave to the calm judgment OF tie Senator rom
senator aecaro discussion to-day that there mas
peyeE Pss" s Senator ha, Is Go the waT g TO
peaceable relations IN tuis country l. not this opssi-
ton 10 the amendment mock ryi Fhose who oppose
this amendment must admit one OF TWO things that they
cannot protect their witnesses, that their state
@"DS To shine e' on '1S% these tra6sacons % Now When
"Oh, no! Gays the seuafor from Mslnc) put US In
dark room, draw the curtains" The light OF Heaven
the first OF the Almighty Ia the great protector
OF man. Looking toward Mi. Blancl-senator, II you
nave war VITA US 1t shall be yonr war, not ours
Twelve months 1t was in the Southern men TO give
this country trouble but they acted pdtrotcay
nave taro@n impeachment after impedimcnt in The way
of the present Adminstrat on but they did not do it,
They ne oil would do H. southern men love this cOun-
try-lOye peace love its nOnOr-and they expect u
deserve ITS Tossing; ana if they should nave power
The Southern people desire let alone, build
ther fortunes. Tor they are as poor as the
/ have sat here ana heard my people
abused but my DUTY was 10 bear II. NOW when 1t Is
proposed to indict them they VIII meet ther accnsef
half way, aud say: Turn on the hght see an God
foroii+ It should 20 OUT TO t9e balance ot auka'
and down the stream OF time forever that ts Amer
declared that Investigation should not be
MIR BLAINE rep Mel IN reply, read from ihltigh
paper. tn effect taat tnis was white mans Govern
tend negro should DO deprived OF the right Of
suragc, the south gained IN representation on ac
count Of such rgnt to the Mr. Blame said he IN
Cicted the Democratic party as the lOe OF Tree speech
end , The eag hea Gooo tS DEAL dont IS Igco.
ing trouble IN the seating OF President liaN ana he de-
sired 10 say thai 3enlna COnRteSs was hat anne people
count end for the fate OF thousand Mr. Tldens. or
thousand Mr. Hayeses they would rot have gone to war
Mr. RANsOM-Yet In the face OF that the Senator
from Malne says now We viii not do our duty to our
Mr. BLAINE-If either I or the Senator from North
Carolina should fail 10 do our duty would both be
smi,ten with the whitening condemnation Of CUnstlu-
tency which knows how 10 90 50.
Alter sOmr further discussion the amendment OF Mr.
Davis rejected. Yeas, %, nays, ga street party
vote.
Several Senators were paired.
Pending discussiOn. Mr. WHYTE Dem, Md said
there were Senators who desired 10 speak TINS
resolution, aud hc therefore moved that the Senate 20
intO executive session.
Agreed to and tho senate, after brief executive
session. at 43O -. III adjourned until Tomorrow.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
In tho House to-day the privileges of the
floor were ex tended to the members OF the United States