Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-08-14


the Evidence, for the Reason it Was |
Designed TO Convict Hayes With For
gerry.
New YORK, Aug. 13.-The Potter investigat- |
ing committee resumed it's deliberations this
morning. The first witness called was YIN. 81. i
Roberts, who testified that he editor of the
New Orleans Times Democratic journal, and
during the campaign it used its influence
to carry the State and national ticket. The
witness believed Nichols and Tilden carried
came down to New Orleans for the purpose of
looking into the cause of the riots. He was
good shot an a good talker. He went out
hunting and circulated freely about and made
many friends for his party in that way. He
did not seem to have come here to fight the
Democrats. Witness knew Chas. Foster, of
Ohio. and spoke of him as q truthful man,
and who dared to give expression to his
opinions.
The witness was then asked about the course
that was taken in regard to ascertain ng the at
titude of Gov. Hayes toward the State govern
ment of Louisiana. when he went on and stated
that, a newspaper representative, and AZ a
man who was not actively engaged in politics,
he was selected to go to Ohio and ascertain the
views of Gov. Hayes, and what policy he wonld
adopt in of his election to the Presidency.
The witness then went on to state that he pro-
ceeded to Ohio some time before the returning
board met and was about stating the result of
a conversation he had with Halsted. who gave
him sealed letter to Hayes when he was in
terrupted by MIR. Hiscoc6, who objected to
questions and answers that would be throwing
mud upon the President.
Gen. Butler said his question to witness was
},;y ha had 1u akQHh i'm tn,
state as near as he could the result of his in
terview with MIR. Halsted, editor of the Cincin-
natl COntnlerciul and he did not see how that
was throwing mud on the President by detail
ing exactly what was said or done. In regard
to this investigation he thought they should go
into the length and breadth of it. We are here
to ascertain if Hayes was elected by q fair
count. He said it was shown in evidence that
Nichols had received about $4,000 votes more
than Hayes. and that Packard had received 30
many votes over Hayes. and yet the wonderful
result the country already knows. Butler al o
spoke of the vote that had been given in South
Carolina, and said all this seems very strange.
Many persons have seen where the lightning
has struck but scarcely anyone has seen the
lightning strike twice in the same place. Such
| a phenomenon would surely have got into the
| newspapers. He thought every phase should
be given in this investigation, and he saw no
objection to the question as no electoral COM
| mission was then thought of.
| Hiscock intimated that Gen. Butler was en-.
| deavoring to show that forgery had been COM
| mitted and argued that such evidence was
sought to be obtained with view of connect.
ing the President of the United States with
forgery and loohin2 towards his impe chment
II thought they should not step outside of the
| letter of the resolution.
After some further discussion the chairman
said he had no objections to the question
whereupon the witness then detailed ut length
L: ole foI
interview with Gov. Hayes and Lamar Wit
ness told Halsted he had come for the purpos
of hearing Gov. Hayes views in regard to The
South, and what policy he would adopt in tn
event of his being counted in as President.
Witness in the course of the conv.rsatio,
with Halstead told him that what could b.
done wouli be done to save the State, remark
ing to him. Whatever horse loses hors
WINS Witness also told him that 'Whateve
cargo they threw out, i, would be the cargo o
least value" Halsted told witness that Haye
was good fellow, and meant to do ligh
towards the South. Witness told Halsted h
had come thither on purpose to find that out.
Witness detailed further conversation h
had with Halsted and then spoke of his visit
Gov. Hayes with letter of introduction frot
Halsted, which letter was sealed and with til
contents of which he was not familiar. n
interview with Gov. Hayes was of an exceed
: ingly pleasant character and he learned that tt
Governor entertained most friendly feelings t.
ward the South. Witness told him the Sta
must be saved at all hazards to the Democrat
and that whatever they threw overheard in tn;
respect would be of local value to them. {
: also told the Governor they could establish
: show vote OF 10, 09O. Governor Hayes told wi
: ness he had no desire for the President
unless he was counted in fairly. He spok
| very kindly and courteously of the South.
b Witness detailed at length conversations h
had at various times before the marter WI
y. Al i .Nth
s Witness said from conversations with varioN
e Republican leaders he understood if Louisiar
n and South Carolina were counted for Haye
g the government of those States would be give
Is to the Democrats. They proceeded on this a
l. surance, and the assurances were carried on
:, Gen. Butler observed such assurances SEEM
to be # much the same nature a bargain.
In the course of further evidence witne
4 said he was offered the position of naval office
. but recommended it be given to negro. T
- would not take any such position where
e would be obliged to take care of kenner OF
y returning BOARD. Gen. Grants order, know
al as the Sniffer order, was issued a short til
a licitation of Republicans. When he left M
m Orleans to cal. on Gov. Hayes, he believed I
4 n turning board would declare Packa
is elected. In that conversation Hayes told b
RS he did not want the Presidential office cxcs
g. he got it fairly. Gen. Comfy was present at I
10 not a mere empty form of words. but he
r. intended to live up to it in it's broadcast spil
ct and intended to treat the people of the Sor
es with fairness and justice. He said nothing
er to which State government he would recogn
lg in Louisiana. He understood fairness and j
tice to mean the withdrawal of troops and
election of the persons receiving the high
to vote He believed Hayes to be well-meani
honest man.
Gen. Butler cross-examined witness as
'"' whether he did not understand justice
m fairness to mean Democratic government.
nit replied. Hayes m ade no pledges of any XII
se and witness was left to infer what these wo
u meant.
10 Gen. Butler tried to show they implie
ay bargain. Witness admitted that when re
Id ing his talk with Hayes to his friends he
hit companied the information with the staten
to he understood Louisiana was to be saved.
Sc article in the old time regular .blo,
oss shirt style published in the Ohio s,
the Journal and given Hayes statement
ers wards the South. created great excitement
.rs til it was proved that Gov. Hayes had no 5
M opinions and never authorized the article.
nd Gen. Butler-Had you any doubt that 81;
M understood he was pledging himself to
mas that your State would be placed in the ha
nts of the Democracy if he was elected?
cd long discussion ensued between Gen.
di- Ter and MIR. Hiscock to the question.
rt's Wilness replied he understood from Ia
manner and conversation that the Mich
government would be given chance to es
lish itself.
on Adjourned.
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+oh Prizes in the Louisiana Lottery.