National Republican., 1878-06-13

told you that Stoughtons meme was not signed
to the letter "A. When Mrs.. jerks first told
mo about the letter, | think she said Slough
tons signature was not on the letter, and that
u was only signed by Sherman. am not eer-
tain about IL, but such is my impression.
Q. Fix the date whom you wrote Anderson
you had been up 10 see Matthews when he had
company "a. II was some time in March.
Q. Fix the date when Anderson told you he
had had an interview with Mat
thews and had quarreled with him.
A. think 1t was about the 5th of April
know IL was two or three weeks before the lst
Of May. A day or two after Anderson had his
interview with Matthews / went 10 sec the
latter and met him In the Senate Chamber,
and he told me Anderson had called OH him
and made threats aud he had told him he did
not regard them at all.
U. Repeat rs near as you can tho substance
Of Matthews words OH that OCCASIONAL. He
said he didn't like the manner in which Andcr.
son had acted that no had done everything
he could for Anderson and was not responsible
for his failure. lie said he felt hurt at Ander-
sons conduct in view Of his own efforts to ad.
vance Anderson's interests, and had told the
latter that he didn't want to have anything
more to do with him or to see him further
after his taking the course lie had taken, and
would drop him, for Anderson was unreason-
able, and there was no use to try TO do any
thing for such man.
Q. Is Smith u carpet-bagger?-A. All men
who went South during the war are carpet
baggcrs they are called so.
y. Then, after the quarrel between Mat
thews and Anderson, and after Matthews had
advised you to have nothing to do with him,
and had himself thrown Anderson one side,
you still communicated with Anderson aud he
still worked for you-you considered his in-
iuence worth having, and he still gave you his
assistance PA. After Anderson broke :, 'ith
Matthews he appeared to work for me juH the
same as before.
Q. You knew of no difference al to that, after
they had quarrelled, on the part of either PA.
! don't think Matthews ever mentioned An
derson's name to me after that interview in
the Senate Chamber.
q. After Matthews told you of the conduct
of Anderson, did you go to sec Matthews
again PA. Yes, sir, several times.
q. Aud you saw no want Of cordiality on his
part after this PA. Not at ALL
Q. After that you know Matthews worked
as hard for you as If nothing had happened p
A. Yes.
Q. Well, the President appointed carpet
bagger, after ALA Yes.
Q. Matthews couldn't get the carpet-bagger
he wanted, but the returning board could get
the carpet-bagger they wanted "A. suppose
SO.
aho WitucoS Wao hcrc uisCnuIBeu.
nR. SEYMOUR
was called and sworn. Resides In New Orleans,
and is notary public. Knows Anderson by
sight, but did not know Weber. The witness
was shown paper (the Anderson Weber doc
ument), which he identified as to the sigma
lures of himself and the witnesses and as to the
notarial seal.
Mr.. McMahon-Now you can state anything
nhn ha In 70 Co rrhi i.h
occurs to you.
The witness (after q close eXamination)- y
That paper was acknowledged before me on
the day named by Anderson and another man
! didn't know, and who Anderson introduced
to me as Weber.
O. Were the contents Of the paper commune
Gated to you "A. No, sir. | asked Anderson
whether there was anything in the paper un-
professional for me to sign that would create
trouble or make my position as a notary ridicu-
lOus, and Anderson replied that there was not.
II was the first time paper had ever been
presented me to acknowledge the contents OF
which l did not know, and | remember the
facts about it above stated from that circum-
stance. The document bore the names of An.
derson and Weber when it was presented, and
l simply asked them If those were their sigma.
lures. then sworc them to the signatures. |
called their attention to the fact that it was a
joint document, and that only the name OF
Anderson appeared in the concluding para
graph, and some one, either myself or one OF
them, inserted the words "and ID. A. Weber u
in the body of the paper That was done in
my presence.
BY Mr.. Butler-Did you ever acknowledge
any other paper in all respects precisely like
that2-A. No. sir.
Q. No other onc9-A. No. sir some three
months after this paper was acknowledged
acknowledged another paper for Anderson and
jerks.
Q. You arc certain that two men signed the
papcr?-A. Yes sir; this gentleman (pointing
to Anderson, who was sitting near and an.
other. The other man was stranger and
could not recall his personnel beyond q general
impression. know that he was about the
same height and build rs Anderson. l remem
Der nothing as to his complexion.
q. Did or did not those two persons write
these names under the jurdt in your olice p
A. l cannot say.
@. Have you any explicit memory to seeing
them write the names "A. l have not.
q. Do you rccollcct whether there were any
names written OH tho paper when it came tC
you "A. Some of them were on.
Q. Did you then know who Mr.. d. A. Weber
was PA. l did not.
| q. What was the apparent age of the persor
| who appeared before you as Weber "A. From
twenty eight to thirty-fve.
| q. Had YOU known Anderson "A. i had
met him. He was introduced by Mr.. Wilder
q. Was Mr.. Weber also introduced to you
| A. think Anderson introduced Weber Il
me at Mr.. Buffers request. (Seymour mad,
upon piece of paper his notarial seal ant
wrote his signature.l
q. Did you ever have occasion to sec tn,
signature of d. A. Weber, who was tax.col
lector, and subsequently supervisor Of regis
tration in East Frliciaua, and who was after
ward killed "A. No, had not.
q. Have you ever since that time sctn til,
person who was introduced to you as d. A
Wcberf-A. No, have not
q. Did the person who was presented to yoi
as Weber have any conversation with your-
| A. None at ALL
Mr.. Butcr-Was there anything at tina
| time transpircd more than usual IN an ordi
nary course Of business "A. Nothing ut all.
Al. WILDER, OF NEW ORLEANS,
was sworn, and testified that he was acquaint
ed with Anderson, but not with Weber lie re
memberCd the execution Of the paper in Ques
tiOn.
q. You recognize this us your signature p
A. | do.
q. Have you any recollection of the circum
stances under which this paper was executed
| "A. Very little. Anderson came into My of
flee with another gentleman, whom / did no
know, and said that he had document whicl
! he wanted acknowledged before a notary, bu
lie did not want any questions asked about il
lie then asked me to witness the signatures
We went to Seymours Office where Anderson
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