The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-06-16
THE FORGED CERTIFICATES
cor KELLOGG'S CLERK DFScRJ,,..
nov THEY WE'RE FIXED.
LEFT Loose upon the Table Of n pub,,c n
Important Papers Taking Care or th,N""
scivcs-Proctor Knots vigorous p.,'

Lcft Loose upon the Table OF n Public n.
Important Papers Taxing Care or TN
scivcs-Proctor Knots vigorous p,a,.'
WASHINGTON, June i5.-Thc Potter Invo,
tg0tion Committee called to the witness s,,,,
II. Conquest Clarke Gov Kellogg private sa.
rotary in New Orleans ut tho timo the Eloc,o,s,
College met He acted IA clerk OF the collego,s
Louisiana. and is the gentleman referred Ia H.
Orlando II. Brewster in his testimony as hayin.
told Brewster OF the defect in the rcturnso.
made out by the college at first. and who "a.
qucstod Brewster TO sign the second SO, of co,.
tiflcates. Mr.. Clarke said that he ia emplo,nd
by the Commissioner Of Internal Revenue H.,
was not present at the mcetng of tho eleoto,,
in 1876. but knew OF the meeting, and autsa
quently learned from Con. Anderson after An.
derson's return from Washington, that ihs,,
was a defect In the first certificate. Gen. An.
dcrson gave tho duplicate copy OF the fra, car.
tilcatc to witness. and said to him TINT frionA,
| in Washington thought that instead OF IN,
names Of President and Vice Prcsidcn, bens
on one sheet they should be on two sbec,
| The witness did not act upon Anderson,
suggestion in preparing new corincalos
| but hal them prepared himself so far as In
| forms were concerned. He took one of Ky
| blank forms prepared first. md went 10 the N"
| publican printing Office and directed them toIs
Htau.
made separate-that H. to leave the mama NM
| Vice President out Of one form and to leave IL
| the name of the President. and in the other ons
| to leave In the name OF the Vice President ana
| to lenyo out the name 81 the President TINA
| was ali the alteration in the form. Some OF N,
clerks IN th9 building li,od IN the names d
Rutherford H. Hayes and Mr. Wheeler for presi
| dent and ice-President.
Gov, kellogg stated TO the witness that h,
wished he twitnessl would see Con Anderson
because he tAndcrconl said there was someihn,
| wrong about The certificates. At the Governors
request no went into tho room where Gen An
| dcrsOn was sitting. and after that interview len
| authorized to 30 on and make tho necessar,
changes himself Gov. Kellogg signed tho sen
ond set Of certificates in one OF the commits,
| rooms in tho building. Witness wis there him.
| soli whom Gov. Kellogg signed. Aftorthe certl6.
| Gates were ready the witness sent for some q
| the electors who were in the city. and ~ they
came into tho Office he asked them 20 pass tho
word 10 others. and he left the certificates In ths
room so that they could be signed by others
| Witness scaled tho certificates and FORWARDED
them two or three days after Gen. Andersons
| return. Ono was forwarded by mail and one
he handed to MIR. Charles Hin, who was to aa
| as substitute for Gen. Anderson.
| Tho order OF signing the second set lac knew
| nothing about. Tho papers were loft upon the
table IN the committee room KELLOGG md
| Brewster were all whom he saw sign MI
| Clarke was examined nj length about his pat
in getting the certificates started for Washing.
| ton.
Ex-Congrcssman Darral was recalled for a
| question or two hv Mr.. Potter. who asked him
where he wis IN l.'ul -inua when the visiting
statesmen came 10 New Orleans and he replied
that he lived ~ miles west of Now Orleans and
visited the city once or twice and stayed one "
! TWO days. Ito WIS not sont Tor, hut
rcmcmnercd going up ana seeing Mr.. Hale and
one or two others. some Of ia m had lett Gov
N9ycs hnd gone across to Florida. He WIS
asked If he had any conversation with them
about the election. and snid possibly he did. all.
thoueh nothing that was llNod In his mind.
Q0Wfr" you feq He to fon' n wi any q
think | was asked the question whether |
thought the enhers Of the Returning Board
would be intimidated 10y the threats or stand
firm and resist any offers OF pur base. ! did
not hunt W. any Of the mnmOors of the Return.
Ing Board while was there or Sec them,
The committee here adjourned until Monday
morning.
Tn tho Uouso to-day Mr.. Knott dem. XVI
Chairman Of the judiciary Committee present.
cd his views in opposition TO the report of the
committee on the kimmcl bin and tho +, sou.
tious by the Maryland Legislature On the sub.
Icct Of the Pres dental election. II opens with
a declaration Of unfeigned regret at ms nabl.
ity 10 concur in the resolution reported by tho
committee. or in the reasoning by which that
conclusion had been reached. The great IN.
DERIVING question to be determined was not the
| one which the committee seemed To consider
| paramount To- all others. II was not merely
whether the present incumhont- Of the Presi.
Dental and Presidential offices should be
disturbed, bat it had wider rnnge and reached
| nm Infinitely prOfoundor depth. 1t was tue
that II might Incidentally affect the tito Of two
ctizens TO the honors and emolumens OF GER
tain high and important Offices now claimed By
them. but II also involved the dignity and sOye
reignty OF thirty-eicht independent anu co
equal States as well rs the rights AMI lib
correct determination leads 70 salts
, factory solution OF an existing controversy
cLallcnsed tic attention q eiyiiilel men, aud
which EXTENDED far beyond the present hour
and affected the destinies OF generations yet
unborn. II might be pushed aside now, but Il
would not Down at the bidding u the House
! would rccur again and again until the eret
Republic should cease to be- named among tho
Bi lee fp D
question WIS whether, under government
which was pre-emnently government 20 law
there was any one whose rights were above
aud Whose dignity was hey! ri the law
, | whether one who might have hron wrlnguj
, inlurtcd into the Chief Magistra'y. either b
mistake through the fraudulent nhchnauon'
| Of band Of political buccaneers, can Dee TO-
. moved from that position 10y ia" pea '"iQl meth
| ODDS of law or whether " the round and TOP Of
sovereignty " could only be stripped from HI,
hrow 10y the strong hand Of physical force
such. ho said. WAS lalr statement ni iir lm
, pornni question involved in the res Iu' % r.
q ported hythe committee, which WIS oullaaiMl
A, / "a proposition TINT tho chosen roprO- hiAinU
: OF the people sloul Eravcb AM q Iurrlll
announce 10 the world in an IN 'a nm ih.
. the title Of ono who had been. or ~ sti De- Tor
{ mally inducted into the Presidential OH % u
3pen Violation Of me plaines pro.-i.n- o ' =,
. any authority or IN any peaceful. mode Nhll
: ever. save Impeachment, winch Fan on y taA
! | place whom tho incumbent has 20 an sunny.
some high crime or mis- irm"annr' ana 'he "
can hold the office. not only IN utter 'nn''mll'
the iundHmgnia law 81 thr land. nH' ln " l,l
a Of tho will Of The po'ple. unless. w ~ ''s- \,
s appeal 10 arms they might cvunl hu from ID
e high position thus illegally nss umri q, ..,..
: H. thon argued Mat the ul!r To- nc lresilep
- passed upon and decided hy thr Juii 'iurY. hii
;. he asked; Why, then, Should the p'opl' I. lo0
: through a formal Congress 1iHl lials- ~
. for testing the TILE and ousiing from ON ' on
/ fi,trd into n ly the deyi'r- Of 20 liuniiu ' y.
. litira free. ootcI- The con fusion VI IAe u
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