The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, 1878-08-01

Chairman Potter he explained that in his testi-
mony he used the word mob" as applied to the
Nichols party In New Orleans In merely legal
sense As matter Of fact the friends Of Nichols
claimed that he had been elected Governor that
his troops were legal militia, that they had been
cheated by the Returning Board and that 1t was
for the purpose OF maintaining their rights that
the militia was organized. The witness was asked
whether he did not believe that II no FEDERAL
troops had been In New Orleans the Nichols gov
ernment would have established Itself He re-
piled that II 1t had been a mere question Of phys
ical force the Nichols party would have over
come Packard.
Q.-Do you believe that Packard could have
maintained himself without the support Of Fed.
eral troops1 My impression is that of the Pack.
ard Government had been recognized in the first
place. as the Kellogg government had been, and
had the President said he intended TO maintain
| the Packard government and give to 1t the neces
sary moral support, there would have been no
| trouble In maintaining 1t.
The witness said during further inteTr0gat0ries
that the Nichols government established itself
without the aid of the Federal government fur.
ther than the withdrawal Of the troops. ,
| General Butler asked; Suppose Governor TIL,
den on the 4th Of March, 1877, had established
himself by the aid of the New York militia In
the city OF New York as part of the United States
| on the ground that the people had elected him
| but that he had been cheated out Of the election
| by the Returning Board of Louisiana, and had
| sent commission TO Congress in order to secure
| recognition; and, after certain proceedings Of
| bribery, intimidation and corruption, and after
| the bonds Of the United States had come down
| thirty cents on the dollar on account Of trouble
and anarchy, and supposing the majority of Con-
| gress were bOndhOlders, and TO save these bonds
| had decided TO recognize Tiden as President and
| the majority Of the members of both houses had
| agreed to that and agreed to form Congress TO
| cd utoo onn from him sanding hiua
sages and bills for his approval-haVe you any
doubt there would have been change In the gov
eminent Of the United States as In the case of
| change In the government In Louisiana2 Al
have not the slightest doubt of It.
In response TO questions by Chairman Potter
the witness gave his opinion that 10 was the duty
of the President to decide which was the legal
government, but If any outrages existed the ques
tons were for the decision Of the courts
During bis examination by Mr.. HiscocB, the
witness incidentally said he had one or two long
interviews with the President, during which the
witness argued that the withdrawal OF the troops
from New Orleans and not maintaining the Pack
ard government would be the destruction Of the
Republican party in the South. The President
took the position that the Republican party could
no longer maintain that policy which had lost
New York to the Republicans, and the party had
become weaker In consequence; therefore the
good of the Republican party demanded change;
the President treated the subject as of national
consequence
The witness said so far as he knew no returns
had been thrown out by the Returning Board on
inadequate or insufficient proof. There as q
movement 10 make Nichols governor, even to
the extent Of violence.
General Butler interposed, saying: And Mich
oils had the aid Of the President and the McVeagh
| commission,
Witness-I wish gentlemen, you would distri.
7 butte these questions among others.
General Butler--We have been asking many o.
them because it is so rare that we have an homes
witness.
t Witness-There are many OF them If you would
look after them; l find the people Of Louisiana
as honest as those anywhere.
Mr.. HlsCock-As in Massachusetts, or New
York;
General Butler examined the witness with re
gard to proofs and atfidavits laid before the Re
turning Board with reference to Eliza Pinkstor
being brought into the room of the Returning
/ Board on sofa. Morey said such conveyance
was matter Of necessity owing to her wounds
, This was not designed to produce a strong i'm
; preston ON the board although 1t naturally haC
that effect,
sYPHER AND THE SHERMAN LETTER.
General sypher was recalled by Mr.. Hiscocl
and interrogated concerning the alleged Sher
man letter. Mr.. HisCock repeated the question
asked on Wednesday, namely whether there wa
5 anything which enabled him, up to the time HI
saw what purpOrted to be the letter written an(
signed by Mr.. Sherman to carry the form OF thu
later handwriting Ill MS ullDut anu dlbO Iehl
} the answer then given by General Sypher name
To- No, sir; have not the form OF his writing II
! my mind, and have not seen 1t frequently since
would not swear TO his signature now" Genera
! Sypher said this was his answer to-day.
GENERAL MOVES TESTIMONY coNTRADIoTED.
Captain S. G. Dennis, Of Florida, was permitted
to make an explanation concerning Governor
Noyes' testimony before the committe in Wash
ington. Governor Noyes had testified that Whel
the life Of Dennis had been threatened, he hat
called together In a church or somewhere all tn
colored people In the vicinity, and had then
| kneel down and raise their hand and swear If HI
was killed they would lay waste in every direc
I ton and avenge his death. Captain Dennis de
sired 80 say nothing of the kind had taken place
and than Governor Noyes must have been misin
formed.
In reply to a question by the chairman, he sale
when he spoke at numansville, where 1t was al
legged his life had been threatened, there was NJ
i intimidation nor any threats
2 Ex-senator Trumbull testified he left for New
, Orleans on invitation OF Mr.. Hewitt, Chairman o
the Democratic Executive Committee, to witness
the count by the ing Board, In company
with other gentlemen similarly invited The Wis
itors were not present when the board retired tO
! deliberation that they did not see the compila
tion of returns by which the board arrived at the
, results nor did he know whether any ah1daVih
presented to the board were read at all.
The committee closed its business here early
this afternoon. Messrs. Potter, Hiscock and But
Ter left for New York, where they will examine
on Monday Governor Palmer of Illinois AL
adjournment will then take place subject to cal
Of the Chairman. Mr.. Springer returns TO hi
family at Deer Park, Md.
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