New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-06-18
THE POTTER COMMITTEES
yesterdays TESTIMONY

Il NJ ~ AExAkuNED BY M'MAHoN.
/ One witness was examined by Mr. Pottev,s I'M.
-hgating COMMITTEES. yesterday. namely Henri n
Clarke, the former private secretary. az &C.,.
Kellogg. Mr.. McMah6n cross examined ~
in regard TO the signing Of tue second set
lana certificates lthe ones Which were not souOtsd
at the time Of the electoral proceedings al Wa.L-
inGtOnf. the object being to discover who signed
Judge Leyssoe'ss name 10 the certificates The
witness said the eertfcates were left spread out on
his table over night and that General Andesso,
and himself looked after the matter Of getting the
electors in 30 sign. He didrnot know that Lewis.
see was ont of town, and could not tell who wros.
his name upon, the certificates. When Ne found
that all the names had been obtained be sealed m
the papers and sent them 10 Washington.
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% THEFUTILE PURSUIT OF A SHADOW.
MmAH0N rlty1EG VERY .HARD 10. DISCOVER ERox
| af AN UNIEF0RsfED WITNESS WHAT WOULD IA
4 woRTHI.xss, EVEN IF KsowS.ii ts,,..., \.
,WAsHNGToS, June 17,--The Potter lives.
tigstng Committee met 81 10 a, N. today, ali ths mep
bers being present. except Mr., Reed. 49,,
The exaninatfon OF Henry C. carre former mo-.
vate secretary Of Governor resumed ana eoD
ductedn the stssarciang manner BY Mr. ncaloa the
questions being directed the matter OF
OF the second set OF Presidential electoral certificates 10
which judge Ieyssee had sworn that bis signature was
attached by other than himsel Tho following
the only Interesting points Of the testimony Of tho
witDess $1,000,
The witness-Genera Anderson had told ne there was
something wrong about the returns saw Anderson
% sso ns s5arat % whsrennen SaTng
printing Of the forms OF the rst list went 70 The PRINT
Tie second list Knew sbe papers ought to 6sSe bssa
in washington BY the Sd q January think
sspt tie sGss s % haze sssn signed s eoa ssy
signing these lists was transacted in that committee.
keys Oi think seat note 70 Jadee Marks %
and glgn the lss doRt Ts%eneer any enc e.. else
had obtained the printed forms, very special bns
S Ps az R0t scscSS se s Sr
Gates as work OF supereogaflou. could not say
whffSs s sT y A1dsTssn Or spss
~ these new Anaeson signed and went away
s S0S a and Ssss
woad ,hst shs hs.s were signed but there vac NO
Q-DId General Anderson stayup there while youvsre
o3when yon would both leave. was the door fastened
with snap iatehF Ayes. SIR. think there was
was full Of pOcemen-one every corner Revolution.
airy times were expected. o. go D., III
for two days those electoral Iss remained spread on
table Ss, R6 ,S % RSpsTs mere INA.
sns 1 as peat q nay Ss .se RSPs
from Tiers until took them down 20 the Secretary Of
oswhon ala you ten that those papers we're wing
there that rOou after away the FIRST even
ingi Amy eleetor that saw. 1. -, .r..,--T h,
Q@Do you rsmember telling anybody that was not an
Q.-Did you send cut for LeyIssee A,--Eot that I
Qi-wSy nOti ALI ana not know where he was
aQ-Didn't you know he wasnt in towni Ag-No. sir.
Odd yOu send for Jeffrion A.--N0, sir b..
Q-why rott Al did not know where he was
Q-Rdn't you know be Was 9gt Of toxli A-so, cir.
Odd you send for Mr. Sheldoni In the general way
that told the electors to tell the others did, because
Q--Why did you knew he was there A.--Bsoauss his
oW6o siss 40 YOU remember taat setuaily came IN
ana signed An ycT presencel A.-The only ones
clearly remember were Governor kellogg and Ar.
1Q,-YOa don't remember anybody eIsei No. sir.
feel sure that one, or possibly Two more came up when
was there or went up with me and signed but who
Q.-You doat remember sIr. Marksi A.--As I,say. I
have recollection OF one or two more signing IN nv
presence. but which ones cannot say \.
Q-yho put M. Levissee's RaroetO that papert Al
oS~When yOn looked at the papers, did You see his
name on an when the papers were completed.
aQ-xOu did loon e the paper. ana an the names
Q,-who told you the work was done and the papers
were ready 20 send ont Al conld DOT say. -
gentlemen that have talked this matter oyer since nat
Jeion aud LcvIssee net in town the time the
papers were signedt Al think IL has become matter
Iand thss Jesion and Levissec dld mot actually
know thar Mr. Leyssee y the only ono that has testi
ne oIrorn whom did you leafu thar ye,onwuu no, in
town. Alton statements Az neHspapers aud from no
specific person That can recotlect.
'oS-When Jon saw that didn't ron inquire about ~
It excite any suTgrss ySgI Arne thing
qTwaat Is your best recollection as to how many
think che word nsed was some" a 81. arr %
sssR Ssg 9qS INTO SsS Ns mater 81
Governor kellogg.
oSS. af BSS Ts
on intimate relations with Governor Kellogg snd had
not been 50 w % AFs 3 s nat G .. sSs
time with smtied II whatI have heard recently had
Sa sia aSe (. s Anderson sa e
Odd General Anderson take any supervision OF
these RspSSi c ms S4e IN yc1r
down 70 the plain truths, e was in your private ROOM
ftV was not II %y prate room. Ssd Obtained
the key to t. The SENATOR Mr. Masseco had she keystO
it, bus was no longer bis rocmas he was out Of the
Q@And aid yOu leave the papers there over night
Q.-Dld you leave them there purposelyi A-0h.
po that is did not leave there that ching might
Lrsgardsd The first certificate az strictly complying
Q,-Do you mean 20 say you set up your opinion
against tho advice OF friends In Washington Al did
Dgt my individual opinion infueueed my tHeushts II
they had been the first set Of returns think should
rather have taken much closer eognzanee Of them or
else none az all. n t
O--Wasn't II known 20 yOu politicians An towR. and to
you yourself that Judge Leyissee was not IN town A.
ow SSs ft Mr. IeSIsses the man about whom there
had been talk OF his getting $780, 00Of Ayes. SIR.
Gle was conspicuous character theret Ayes.
wasn't knowa TO you ana others Of the same party
that neither Mr. Jeon Levssee were IN town at tho
lzne me papers were sigued3 Ali certainly not
known 10 me- and don't kaew Il was 10 Anderson.
Q-YOu did not put the names on the paRersi Aa-No,
Q-Ddift you know the state Of Louisiana would set
tic the election for Hayes and Wheeierf A.-Certanly-
the hrst genuine. ~ .- ~
Tlvt "A NO ---Yo