New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-08-03

the otner sOcietlesI A.-1es.
Q.-Then no man would be able TO accumulate any
thing beyond expensesI Ain the state OF society
speak Of there would be desre for anybody TO
mulate anything
Q.-Tben man with large family would be paid the
same a man with a small onei Ave claim man
should DO paid according to his
Q,-Interestst A.-No, sir; according TO his work.
Q-But If aman does not have enough to keep his fam
lily, how do you make up the deficiency A.-By the
cooperative society.
Being confused by of the questions, the witness
desired Isaac Bennett TO take his place.
MACHINERY THE CAUSE OF DEPRESSION.
Isaac Bennett is OF the delegation Mr. Bar
tholmee He stated that he in the cigor business,
and represented the laboring class in general
QHow many OF the laboring class do you representa-
A.-A body Of thirteen fourteen hundred.
estate what you consider the cause Of the depres-
sion In labori Al think it is machinery. Machinery
destroys manual labor and millions OF men TO
unemployed
Q-How does machinery cause men to go unem-
poyedi A-By what we call at the present time over
production.
Q-There are more shoes, then, than the people
wantt A.-NO, sir
Q-More wheat and pork A.-There has been.
OF machinery causes depression, would you destroy
machinery No. sir Properly used 1t is a blessing, but
at the present time machinery is wrong, because it is
the hands Of pon-producers.
Queer who handles the materials a nonprOducer
is one who does not.
Q-what are WEI A-You are laborers under the
Government. but not producers.
Q.-Are entitled 10 payi A.-Being necessity,
yes
Q-Is the foreman Of shop, who has charge OF the
laborcrs, producer or nonproducerl Ale is neces
sty.
Q.-should he have more wages than the wOrkmen he
employsi A.-Certainy.
oil the foreman has more pay than the laborer
should not the employer have than the foreman
Ave claim there is necessity Of such position.
Q.-Who would employ the people A.-The employ
ment Of the people should be under a cooperative
system
Q.-na foreman saved his money, might he become
empiOyeri A.-Certainy.
Q.-Then he would become nonproducing capitalist
would he noti AIN a certain
DIN your own business then you would not wish
be an empoyeri Ayes. should.
| Q.-Why do you not do so A.-Because I have not
the
Mr.. Rce-supposing you have a cooperative society
and onefourh Of the people do not want to 90 into
A-Tney would be willing to go into it.
Q.-why don't you form it, theni A.-Because we
have not got the means.
OF they won't go in now how you going get
them inf Ably showing the people at large how to
labor and what TO labor for
Q.-What Will make Il possible A.-The abolition OF
private capital and machinery
Q-What do you claim for remedies for the present
depression In business Al claim, FIRST the reduction
Of hours OF labor from ten TO eight compulsory school
education up 10 fourteen years and the regulation OF
womans labor paying her the amount Of wages for
the same work as men receive also claim that no
married should be allowed 10 work. but should
be supported by her husband.
OF the woman is a widow, OF has no husbandi A.
| Then she might be allowed TO work.
Ola wOman's husband is sick . A.-The cO0pera-
tive society would take Of her.
OIL you reduce the hours Of labor from ten TO eight
will you pay the wagesi Alt has always been
shown that the longer work. the less get paid for
our labor.
GERMAN VIEW OF THE NEEDS OF LABOR.
Adolph Douai, German, who said that he an
American Citizen stated what he considered 10 be the
OF the present depression and the remedies He
opposed vigorously work by children under fourteen
said that strict laws should be made holding employers
accountable for accidents 10 employees resulting from
their 1.-THE empioyersl negligence that wages should be
exceeding week. and that contract should be made
by the legislature enabling people 70 accept or reject Get
some time with regard the history capltastic pro
duction, going ~ lar back as the Middle Ages
Mr.. Hewitt said the committee was not there TO In
ycstgate history bat TO ascertain the OF the
present depression. Mr.. DOunai said that labor
nh had ed1eed land in the United states until
| Il IA worth only what men could obtain for IL.
| W
QITIo% is it that property rising England under
capastc production and railing IN the United States
A.-That Is not the point. Land VIII become worthless
| by and by, and capital also worthless;
Q.-rnen everybody will have all the land and all the
capital he wantst Ain future ages the people will
own all the land and all the capital -.,,-,
O.-But who will want them II they are worthless
| A.-The Government will take IT,
Q.-What do you consider would be remedy for these
eyist A.-AmOng other things reducing the hours OF
o%Under this cooperative system, II men choose to
IN Ioura al uuuoFggll
| workng eight A.-No. not uuder that system.
The speaker denounced tDe Pacific Railroad grant, and
said that Congress should abolish all such mOnopOlies
lie recommended the appointment OF insI ecors TO visit
factories ascertain and report what profits capitalists
| were making from the labor or the workngmen.
CRIrIcIsTNG THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM
After q short the chairman called MI Carsey
| and Mr. MADDOX, of the National Greenback Labor
party Neither Of the being present. Mr.. Ward. OF
the sociastic Labor party, was called for He also
being absent the chairman asked II any one wished to
speak. This invitation was responded to by James
Connolly who was requested by the chairman to state
what he considered the causes OF the present depres
| Mr. Conolly-The causes, as I understand them, are
various The greatest possibly arc the financial con
diton OF the country to-day and the laws governing the
finances passed by Congress-
teln We hold That the bonds as used by the Government
any deficiency OF capital for carrying on
| industrial pursuits Ave hold there Is.
| Q.-WnnG is that A.-The price Of money.
| Q.-What Ia the present Interest money In New
York A.-That Is according To the time you WISH 10
| purchase It for"
| O.-At what rate A--FOr 3 or per cent on call.
Mr. Connolly spoke at length of the Pacific Rail-
road claiming THAT the Government should abolish all
mOnOpOnes, and have the railroads entirely under the
management OF the United States Government
OFF the Government the Of certain section
of the country for railroad would not the Increased
value IL would give property make 1t better Tor the
| land Al suppose it would .
| O-And II you had one hundred OF land, would
you prefer TO have II neararailroad
| would.
Mr. Connolly spoke long OF what the character Of The
! money issued by the United states should DC. ne
claimed that paper should be taken equally with
gold For the payment OF oil debts, including Government
debts He said that tie Government had the right to
issue ''any kind Of money II wished" AT the close OF
his remarks he said: n can't remedy the affairs Of
the working people In way kearney VIII come andI
| hope. remedy them In another"
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