National Republican., 1878-06-12
IN THE CRUClBLE.
GCop, nuei from First Bn1c.

We have TO allow for postagc-stauips for their
official correspondence.
Mr.. Butler-it he took q buggy ride. who
would that be charged to2-A. He woulJ pay
| for his buggy ride ont Of his own pocket
q Are you sure "A. Quite sure.
Mr.. Butler-lIand mo Mr.. Bakers bill of ex-
pcndtures,
Mr.. Butler, after looking over the account,
read the following item " For use Of horse
and buggy and driver. So"
| Mr.. Butler Ito the witness)--lIow do you
know Baker didn't use that horse and bupgy
to go courting2 lLaughter.l-A The bill Is
certified toby Baker rs having been incurred
In the service of the Department.
Mr. Butler-Oh! Then what is certified to
Is taken for grantcdp tIaughter.l
Mr.. Cox ito the witncss)-Has any means yet
been discovered whereby the Department can
in such bill is as stated "A. Not that know
of; the certificate is the only test.
The committee here took a recess Of half an
hour.
HON. c. n. DARRALL EXAMINED.
On reassembling at 2:i0 p. m. Hon. c. b.
Darrall. Of Louisiana, was called and sworn.
Mr.. ID. stated that he resided in Morgan
City, La and was a candidate for Congress for
tho third Louisiana district In 1876. Received
certificate from Governor Kellogg, but his
seat was contested and was finally given to
Acklen. There were about twenty candi-
dates for collector Mt New Orleans. King,
appointed by Hayes, has been on the
Supreme bench. He had been appointed by
Kellogg. When Packard went out King
went out. King was not confirmed. and about
the close Of the extra session he resigned. 1t
WAS then an open question rs to who was to be
appointed. Lawrence was appointed finally,
and was not confirmed. Then Packard came
on here and applied for the collcctorship, and
Governor Kellogg, witness, and others backed
Il. Ii.
until 1t became apparent that Packard could
not be appointed. George l.. Smith was backed
by the members Of the returning board. First
became acquainted with Matthews when the
visiting statesmen were in New Orleans. Called
on him In regard 10 the collCctOrship. The
first time Anderson came over here and had an
intervi sw with Senator Matthews In regard to
witness was in the latter part Of January or
February. Anderson was friendly to Packard.
Mr.. Matthews told witness to tell Packard that
he had withdrawn his opposition to the latter,
and that the trouble lay with the President,
who was opposed to Packard.
q. What was the influence which Anderson
had with Senator Matthewsr-A. | do not
think that II was Andcrson's influence that
brought about the change. | corresDOnded
with Anderson in regard TO the matter. This
, Is a very peculiar Administration, and up to
the last moment | thought that Packard
would be appointed. told tho President that
] should be Just Us well satisfied with Packards 5
appointment as II myself were appointed.
thought my chances were very god at ono
time, for Mr.. Matthews had told me that he
had an interview with tho President, and that
the President had received his suggestions
f;,vorably.
Anderson had rendered good service TO tho
party in Louisiana, and was in possession OF a
number Of letters from Senator Matthew'S He
said to me and Packard that lie wanted to
serve Us. and that he himself did not want
anything from the Administration. When
| Mrs. jerks was hero she told me that she
had the Sherman letter, but she never showed
II to me. She said she would like to help
Packard and would go and $50 Sherman. and
would use the letter so as to help Packard.
She was here Two weeks and the newspaper
men found it out. They were always very
clever to me, and when they came to me about
this matter told them all about it.
never asked her to let me see the letter.
About two weeks later she came out In tho
newspapers and stated that she had no such
document.
saw Thomas II. Jcnks, the husband OF
Mrs. jerks, in New Orleans. on Wednesday
last, and presume he is on his way here now
Mrs jerks pushed no claims of her own, but
told me that hCr husband, who had been an
active Republican, was out OF employment
Anderson came over while she was here and
/ told me that he had seen her, and that she had
, said that that document (Ineaning the Sher.
man letter. was in New Orleans and that she
would send it to him. While she was here Mr.
White and Mr.. Preston, representatives o.
New York papers, came 10 me, and | CAV,
them her address. She was stopping al tn,
T.. st. James Hotel. A. the time the McVeagf
, commission was in New Orleans Anderson tOlt
me that he had found what has been described
here as the Wcber-Anderson agreement.
Referring to his conversations with Senator
Matthews, Mr.. Darrall stated that the Senate
, told him that he did not believe that the Shcr
l. man letter existed, and said further that h,
$ was anxious to oblige Anderson, because tn
/ latter had served the marty so well.
The following letter was shown the w!tncs
@ and identified by him:
: WAsHlSGroN d. c., Feb IT, 1873
NY DEAR SIR called on the senator this even
ing, found him expecting me- aud said all and NOR
+ than cNpectcd. He says the President will no
: appoint r. and at once suggested should take II
= | am TO advise with him as soon rs Williamson
: He will evidently work heartily for inc. rackar
: also said to-day he would support me in case h
Sogd not gss i h. hmieE IfSou think best yo
/. You have gone home, you are more convinced tina
i am the best man; aud that II will suit you bcs
T. and ! know desires that you shall be satisfied
/, say that II should by any. means get the place
Will appreciate you, and " don't, viii all tn
same appreciate your efforts. win write you an,
o thing new in The cnsc. Give my respects tO Mrs 4
j. hIIu DC ISNuy " come over II HcCesIS ltuly sNc
c G. b. bARRALL.
n JAMES T.. ANDERSON, ESQ, Philadelphia Pa.
O by Mr. McMahon-Why did you want An
v dorsOn to write letter and state that
would suit him "A. For the reason that An
|, dcrSOn represented to mo that Mr.. Matthew
/. had agreed to do something for him that h
l. had given hima written assurance. The othe
= papers in AndrrSOns possession had not bee
O referred to at this time, aud wero not until
d later date.
/. The witness next identified the followin
letter:
Z. WAsITlNGTON, d. c., March g. lS7s
N Ny DEAR SIN: hal an interview with NJ
a this evening and told him what had heard frOI
y Potter and that you had been anl assured IN
ie the papers were all IA your own possession an
It would remain 50. lIG said he had heard fruI
10 another source that propositions had been made II
10 one and, In talking remarked that II all wer
would surely DO lone. and would be responsible,
lie, NJ course spoke only OF the Shsrmdn copy aii
| referred TO nothing else. You had best write hi
Il you were over, but did not TO trouble him nn
a, that You assured Ee the papers were safe In yOr
= own possession aud would he given up when
e. went n You Understand neither of Us referred
y any paper JTDm hHi you had and all looks Us fave
" able as We could wish. We will hear from Mari
o. tomorrow, and will at once let You know. Wri
"A or not, as you think bGst, to NJ, but II seems
'u mo better TO write. Give my love to Mrs. A.. All
&c tell her we aro going to win. Write any news o
W the s. Truly yours, C. u. BARRALL
y Mr.. McMahon-Give us your recollection
tl.aY.