The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-02-01
OLD ENGLAND'S WAR POLICY
EXCITEMENT ~ HER STREETS AND IN
THE HOUSE or COMMONS.
Mr. Forster's Speech Against Going to War
The Opposition Taunted with Bcing Kus-
| sIn's TrIends-Thc CknI's Mem Marching On

ernmcnt will not object TO furnish the House
the correspondence respecting the Gladstone
Ncgroponiis incident.
MIR. Robert Bourke. Under Foreign Secretary.
snid he had heard to-day that the telegraph line
between Constantinople and Gallipoli was cut.
Sir Stafford Northcote. in response to an in
duiry Of Mr.. Chaplin said at the latest advices
no armistcc had been signed The Russians
are still advancing southward. but he was ig-
norant ms to what point they have reached. As
TO whether. in view of the continued Russian
advance. England still adhcrcs to the con-
ditions of Lord Derbys May despatch. he said:
81 can only say that tho Government does en-
tirely adhere TO those conditions"
Mr. Forster. checred by the Opposition. moved
his amendment to the vote Of credit declaring
that the House sees no reason for adding to the
peoples burdens by voting additional supplies.
He would not have brought forward the amend
mout wero he not CONVINCED OF its absolute ne
c"ssity. The yot1dem1ndrd by the Government
WIS Unprecedented. II II wns the duty of the
House TO vote money when wanted. It WIS the
duty of the Government to say what it was
wanted for. The only information the House
had was tint ~" Government intended to Hour
ISL the vote ~ the face II the iOrihcoming Com
gross On the Eastern question. Tho intrrprctn-
ton put upon the motion was that the Govern
inpnt thought tho peace conditions unsntisin'-
Tory re rould ilnd notning IN th",n ,hllh6 Ior
asuspirious attitude on the part OF Grent Bri,.
ain-noilng cndangering British interests. If
Russia desired 10 take advantage OF her victO-
rics 10 alter existing treaties concerning the
Dlrdanelles. that wish was only natural: but
Prince Gortchakof had snd he regarded this
H. a matter not to be- settled hy Russia. Mr..
Forster then arraigned the recent foreign poll
cy " the Government, and declared that they
were not entitled To- this vote rs vote of conf,
half
Mr.. Cross said Mr. Tors,er's speech was in
tended 10 create the feeling thai there was a
war party in the Government whi II desired
the credit in order 20 apply i to warlike pur-
poses. This imputation he distinctly denied.
He also declined TO admit that the vote was in
tended as general vote Of confidence N the
hc granied viii n might bc necessary and that
Il be- given in the full confidence TINT i would
be used only II absolutely necessary. The Gov:
"rnmcut had never swervel from the policy Of
Lord Derbys dcs pntch OF the 9th Of May. He
charar'cri2ed tn speeches mn.!e against the
Guyerumcnt outside Of tho House IL wing
speeches. Checrs from the Ministerial bench
cs.l He commented ON the delay III making
known IN" terms Of peare and the coincident
rapid advance of tn. Russian iorces. and point
ei out thnt the delay was not caused 10y the
Turk. hut by the Russians. He asked where
was the strategic reason Tor the Russian adj
vance on Con~tantnoplc when the bases OF
urAcr werr already accepted 10y Turkey He
4nmiedi 3Wrn9s,tion u Sam,d storm Of ferlsye n.y.,
Russians, and maintained that, seeing the Rus
SLAMS, still advancing. the Government WAS
bound To perscvere IN the vote. The Govern
Ineni must exercise the right to be heard in the
nni settlement. and II II be heard Mt all il must
br iifkti ny the estimate now submitted. Inc
Governments only Object was "A substantial and
lasting ponce He had not believed until he saw
1t that this amendme ntwoud ," put but he had
no doubt Il would be defeated by an oyerwhelm-
ing majority.
Mr.. Cross spoke an hour and ton minutes.
Forsters and Mr.. Cross's speeches. and there
wore cheers and counter cheers from either side
Of the House.
SIR Wnirii Lawson opposed tho vote. and
conteniri that the proper course of IA" Gov
"rnnl"ni was 10 70 io the country ana ect the
opinion of the con.iiiu"n 'ies.
Mr.. Br sht hmruted sir stafford Northcote's
ton" IN giving notle" 90 q supplementary vote,
~" hDd spoken rs though tine freedom of the
tn interests of England. Mr. Bright hoped
tlnt AnnuOUoo would not he used 20 restrict
that Freedom. II" thought the terms Of pence
contained nothing that should alarm the people
iced our dlscrediinble ienlouSy OF Russia. or
Justify the Government in entering the Confer
cn With An attitude of menace II the Gov
"rnment adhered 10 the old policy of cherishing
enmity against Russia they would heIueaih a
hHuu'uth % legacy uf growing lasting friend
shlp with one oi the greatest empires.
The d"unte WAS adjourned until tomorrow.
IN IN" House ot Lords. this afternoon. Lord
Derby Foreign Secretary. in reply To- question,
sad le had 10 ,iniormaton concerning the
armisi'e he had Just s-on Count : S,nouyaloif,
th" kussIan Ambassador. and he had none.
He Lord Derby SAW coniidpntal communi-
cation from Prince GortrhakOr 10 count
S"hou>alon. SAYING he was at II loss To explain
IN" d"luy. Certainly Turkey was equally una
ware oi the cause. Lord Derby supposed that
un explanation or this p'rplcNinc stuat on
would soon bee forthcoming. In reply to the
question whether the oelulntion II Constanti-
nOpln hy Russia alone. or in conjunction with
other powers had been put forward ~ one Of
the condition. Of peace Lord Derby answered
unhes tntingly In the negative He said no
propos itlln had been mndr 10y Russ il that din
lomniic sanction should be- given 10 the ocruua-
tion Il Cnnstaniiuople and no proposal had
been :nntl" for loint occupation.
In the House of Lords this evening during
tho grnsrul debate which AROSE ON ihn uiin-tl,' n
whether the Government would take sians IN
secure the protect ion of the Mu-sulmun pouuln-
tion ~ Eurupran Turkey Lord Derby snid lie
was not one of those who nitnch.d srrnt iuiror-
tan.r To Armenia ~ involving British Interests
hut ne doubted the prultna. Of loidiu.,
language in this House which must h,
encouragement tho russians tu advance in
that direction He could NOT entertain III, vi, ~
that this war grew out Of a lornl disturbances in
H,rYa.sO Nlnn. and had not been planned before
The Governments nrsi care would b" 10 secure
that "A settlement of ponce he madr with ;ilr CON
currence Of all the nuroppnn powers and when
tn. terms of peace were known they wnull rr-
ceiNeth" deepest and most earnest cons Iteration
OF the Government. one of whose obvious duties
II would he 10 secure aS far ~ poss Tile .uunI
justice To- Mohammedans and Christians.
The Homo Rulers al tllrir meeting to-day
decided 10 abstain from voting on he Govern.
mrni'- motion for "A credit vote
mreting Vas IS 'aiyer,isedi Tor 3 o'clock this
afternoon at the City Terminus Hotel on Cam