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Conclusion Of Marshal Pitkin's Testimony
Before the Potter Committee--Somet
Affecting Mrs. jerks veracity---Tht
Florida Case Taken Up and w. e. Chand
Ter and l.. G.. DSnnis Examined.
WASHINGTON, June 27-The otter comnaittt
to-day Questioned ex-Marshal Pitkin upon the
method of employing deputy marshals in Lou
lsls.na, Mr.. Pitkin said he always believed IN
che legality Of the Packard legislature and was
of the opinion that the Packard government
could have sustained itself within three weeks
after recognition by the administration, with
out Che aid of federal troops.
The witness narrated a statement made tc
him by Geo. J. Sway Of conference OF
members of the Packard legislature and mem
bers of the McVeagh commission Immediately
preceding the withdrawal Of troops and the
recognition OF the Nichols government. Pitkin
gave detailed story of this caucus, which he
legislature. McVeagh said: If you
but, on next tuesday the troops will be
"lthdraWn, and as the courts are in the hands
Of Democrats, you will all be hung up to the
lamp posts. Next morning the Packard legs.
was Prepared with papers, newspaper clippings
ana the like. Butler himself had scrap book
N his hand, which contained number of clip
Gsngs from newspapers relating to the Mt
Reagh commission, and its work while in New
Orleans. One of these q statement
.by Mr.. Duprez, manager of the New Orleans
Democrat, to the effect that three members of
the Packard Legislature who had gone over to
the Nichols body in order to make quorum
had been heavily bribed by the lottery company
in the interest of the Democratic party. Wit
ness said Sway told him that Gen. Harlan also
exhibited great petulance barring the confer
ence referred to, and said the commission had
been down there about as long as they wanted
to stay, and this thing must be fixed up.
The examination was continued at length
upon the acts of the McVeagh commission,
and Gen. Butler requested that Packard be
subpenaed to appear before leaving the coun-
try.
Messrs. Hiscock and Cox said the minority Of
the committee were disposed to accept the tes-
tlmony of Pitkin as regards matters in Louisi-
aLn and suggested that additional witnesses
would only accumulate evidence and delay the
progress of the investigation.
During the discussion Gen. Butler remarked
that he wanted the great fraud probed to the
bottom, and Mr.. McMahon said the question of
going into the investigation of the McVeagh
commission had been decided in secret session,
and he voted for it ON the ground that Gen.
Butler informed the commission that an agree
ment was entered into whereby the frau dulen
count of the votes of Louisiana had been made
effectual and he could prove it.
1t was finally decided to settle the matter in
secret session.
Gen. Butler to witness-I desire to ask if you
had any conversations with either Hawley or
Harlan before they returned to Washington
after the recognition of the Nichols govern
ment? A. Yes, sir, l had.
Q. What was said about providing for those
who had lent the administration their services?
A. They said when they arrived in Washing
ton they would see Mr.. Hayes and arrange o
have the leading Republicans who had borne
the brunt of the work in Louisiana taken care
of.
@. Did that include Anderson? A. An
terson's name not mentioned.
by MI. Butler. Could the Kellogg govern
ment have maintained itself with the aid of
federal troops? A. Yes, sir; there were no
federal troops in New Orleans.
After a short executive session the commit
tee took a recess.
After the recess
ROGER c. GIIAssCOCK
was sworn and testified. Resides OH Ninetieth
street in this city, and Mrs. jerks took her
meals at his place One day last winter she
came in to dinner, and / took a seat by her at
the table, and she remarked that she was mad.
asked her what was the matter,
suited her, and that if he did not look out she
would make it hot for him in few days. She
intimated that she had or could get, or knew
of document or letter that was in New Or
leans, and on questioning her she said she
referred to a letter from Secretary Sherman to
MIR. Weber, the man who was killed. We had
many conversations about that matter, and
finally she came in one day and said she was
going home; that the letter was in New Or
leans and that she would have to go home to
get it, but that she would be back again in a
few days.
WIN. f. CHANDLER
was then called and testified. He visited
Florida soon after the last Presidential election,
and there met Gov. Noyes, and had many con-
versations with him regarding the electoral
vote of that State. Do not recollect telling
AIcLin that Noyes was particular friend Of
Hayes, and that anything he said Hayes would
be responsible for, and that if the State went
for Hayes, the members of the returning board
would be well taken care of. Don't recollect
any conversation resembling that at all Don't
Lew Wallace or Gov. Noyes.
@. When Noyes arrived in Florida did he
not tell members of the returning board that
the Presidential election depended on Florida?
A. Not to my knowledge.
O. Was it not understood in Florida when
representative Of Gov. Hayes? A. Not IN that
form, but it was understood by me that he
came there as an intimate friend of Gov.
Hayes. He did not tell me that he came there
at the instance of Gov Hayes, and never
heard it so stated as coming from him.
O. Are you aware of any promises, general
or specific, that We're made to any members of
the returning board before OF after the count,
that in case the State went for Hayes they
should be taken care Of? A. I have no recoi-
lection of such promises.
@. Did not you make such promises? A.
Not to mySsecollection.
@. Did YIN give any assurance to that effect?
A. Not that I remember.
O. Then you had no conversation with men,
bers of the board in regard to their getting
positions in case Hayes was inaugurated? A.
am unable to remember that l gave any as
surance to any member OF The returning board.
@. Are you able to say whether you didassr
not, positively? A. do not recollect that I
did, and believe that I did not. That is as
we'll as can answer. the question.
Witness testified he went to Florida at
tional committee. Did not call upon Governor
Hayes or meet him at any time during the
trip to Florida and back Saw him in the
Ohio campaign in 1876 and did not see him
again until after the inauguration. Witness
produceda telegram sent by himself to A. E.
Lee, Governor Hayes private secretary, and
said: ''This is the telegram referred to in the
testimony taken before the Knott-Field com.
mittee It is in cipher but the translation OF
it is: "Send Stanley Matthews and others OF
high character" Things began to look favor
able. Of sent that telegram 10 Mr.
Lee because he occupied the position of secre
tary to Governor Hayes. l sent it tt
Capt. Lee as secretary Of Governor
Hayes and, left him to do what HI
chose with my telegram. / should not hav'
sent it to Capt. Lee if he had not been Gov
Hayes secretary. I most certainly expected
that Capt. Lee would communicate the tele
gram to Gov. Hayes, and be guided by wha
Gov. Hayes told him. will stand by any