The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-07-21


.,.o of u,s Peculiar tiyii service Reform.
nor Butler prefers the quiet and GOODNESS |
.,he r,nh Avenue Hotel to the heat OF Wash
,.,,,on During the recess Of the Potter Com |
,,.e bo has boon spending few days in Now |
y,rt and will 90 tomorrow to Atlantic City. |
..1nro the Potter Committee resume their ses
,,on on Tuesday. Yesterday morning the Cen
S,nI "a, near the Twcnty-third street window Of |
,is rarlor. No. 27. A delicious broczo played |
,rI,b the lace curtains. Tho General evidently |
had given himself up to n day OF mental rccro-
o,on. Copies Of the morning newspapers lay
on the aoor and in his lap. and n handsomely
hound Cory Of Dickens's Bleak House" stood
bsu oten, to keep the place at which tho
General had stopped reading. on the table
when A reporter for THE Sun entered. the
General motoned to a large easy chair. and
said a, once:
Twas Just reading an account OF an inter-
view with myself" pointing to the article "
nm reported as saying things which did not
say Now. wish to say that believe the pur-
hose WAS to obtain from me some expression
which might be used TO show that was Com
nunist or u Socialist. For instance, the report
has it, What part would Justus Schwab. for in
stance play in the national uprisingF The re-
porter asked me no such question. Instead. he
Asked what thought Of Justus Schwab. Who
sheY Ireplied. don't know him. Is he
not the man who has an employment. as seller
Of lager beer. under license from the State Of
New York II he has an employment. think
heisathousandiold he better than the men who
drive Tally Ho coaches When said this the
reporter. who stood in the doorway during the
entire Interview lasting not over five minutes.
said. Oh pshaw.' with an expression OF dis
gust. and then withdrew.
have nodoubt. now continued Gen. But
Ter. half smiling. that some OF the Massachu-
sets papers will take 1t W and say that l am
working in league with Justus Schwab.
The reporter had asked me before II knew
Dennis Kearncy evidently with the purpose Of
Hssociating me with him. told the reporter
that did not But he is here in the city the
reporter said. Then you know more about
him than do replied.
" Now the whole report OF that interview In
the World is untrue. and the apparent intention
Is to place me in a false position; but the at
tempt to draw something out Of me was 50 i'm
Iudrnt ms TO be amusing
" | have never said word which would give
any one the right to say that OF me. On the CON
,rary. in my Newburyport speech, l distinctly
said that this country was no place for such
ideas. Here we do not win 10y nghting or
force. The weapon Of the American people is
" Do you hear OF any new political move:
nents IN Massachusetts since you delivered
the Newburyport speech -
"Iknow Of nothing new In Massachusetts. "
teplied the General Then. suddenly raising
SIS head. he said. :" by the way / soc that
Thurlow Weed says that the interview with me
ty reporter for THE srN. AT Newburyport,
printed On July 7. was an interview prepared
md sought ey myself. and was a bid for the
Presidency. Now | say positively that the re-
StI cart apa m me tbs aS
lanswcred. Mr.. Weed Is. believe, a worthy,
kindly gentleman. but he ID mistaken In this
You say you know Of nothing new in Mas
tachusetts. General y
mo. have not been In the way Of hearing
about the present condition of affairs there
But then, this is the same everywhere"
You said. General, in your Newburyport in
teryiew with the Sun cores pondent. that any
movement looking toward your nom nation for
Governor OF Massachusetts by the independents
must b. movement up from the people toward
you, Have you seen any such evidence yet Oi
such a movement as some, Of the newspapers
No." replied the General deliberately NO
not toward meTexeopting as receive letters
81 things and asking me what the remedy Is
Otherwise have no means OF knowing
Here the General paused few minutes and
then added slowly and with great earnestness
There will be. l know, a protest in Massa'
chusetts IN opposition 20 the continuance oi
ths KresGnt condlto9 o. ihi6gs. d6g;So, no,os
Il can say" said the General, taking up tho
question before II was finished. that | know
II
ior me to quit public life; but YOU. may say this
that feel now ii the people Of Massachusetts
with any considerable unanlmiy; require ny
Services. they shall have them. Unless ! sse
such disposition on their part. shall not ia
llN myself on them"
In case OF your nomination for Governor by
the independents. shall you make u vigorous
Here Gen Butler smiled again with an ex-
Preston which said, as plainly rs tie words
t,t Sast followed. t9R. pc nryer @ did any Thing
b. said, 90 In with al! my might. and the
very great labor such canvass must Of neces;
Ply entail II. without doubt. reason why
ought not 70 undertake. it,"
Gen. Buffers attention was then called 70 n
Ie'ent l'uer from Boston, published In Il Now
rk newspaper, which said that II he received
Democra.ic leaders IN M.ssathusctts might not
MAKE any nomination a~ulu-t him.
II know nothing OF this" said the General
the second lime the statement. i do know
mat tner" II going 10 b1 a protest in Massachu-
sTs against ihe present condition OF hings.'
Ih"n rs II calling TO mind something, lie
continued. " | see that the Tribune says am
. rs,yf tonyrri g me labor movement. This
wac li, Tiled with the labor movement "A
NHatiy a' 40. | remember that in that yeal
5Nele were notices posted In the mills At Lowell
tAIe9t "a ug IN" discharge OF all operatives who
Nyledthe Bo Butler ton hour ticket ! headed
we TSinenen's movement then. The opera,
m9ugll II too much. After Il struggle we se'
iuIeu q COMPROMISE Of eleven and quarter
uyuls' hHlH is tuc day work now Required
luere, In j2 was elected to the Legislature
oh a tree Soil. WOrkingmen's, and Democratic
,eket IN 81 WAS elected 10 the Senate as q
pemo'r"t ana in 80 ran Tor Governor on tht
Hemocrutf uckct anl received tho largest
Democralic vote polled UP a. that time"
Dld not the coalition Of which YOU speak
tend Charles sumner ~ the United States Sen
Yes, Ny workinGmen,s ticket IN Lowell
made the majority in the Massachusetts Lrgis
taturc that sent Charles sumner 10 he Senate
IL was elected by one vote. The leaders OF tnt
wing party We're against me then. and ~ wer,
The leaders OF the Democratic purity; Tor they
Gera both against that coalition They opgOsri
ne steadily. Why, ! remember that lresid-n
tlerce sent ukase. a sort Of PROCLAMATION t.
Massachusetts, against that coalition IN whlcl
lhe workingmen's movement formed an ACTIVE
feature. But the coalition was carried all TIL
taine. Every man who looked for Fedora
once and sought 10 appease Southern scntl
mont was against that coalition. These mel
Inally went 10 the Democracy through the Bel
thl Everett party, They never We're Demo
tihiS, however They are and always have
t@en Wings. John VI. Forbes and Robert {
,Mrn,hrap, are eAnmllcs II men now living VIII
tre n each party
Whore were the IIoar brothers, who hay
b",h 50 long opposed 10 you ~
W rNtA, llOar brothers were original Wings
thl became Free Sollor- in 1913. going to Nul
out Of tnat State"
Her the reporter asked whether it was tru,
thut S"k;NI George f. lioar had, as Wils re
bVtHNt' MI' Hayes r. right ear,