The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-11
CURIOSITY HIS MOTIVE.
Speaker Hustled Considers the
Meeting Significant.
THE COVETED sENATORSHlP.
Comptroller Kelly Sees Nothing Remarkable
In the Circumstance.


leader Of the reddsst section Of the red Com
His Citizenship Justus sehwab, who aims at achisv-
Ing historic immortality a. the Teutonic Ameri-
can Gracchua All kinds OF speculation wcro
indulged In by politicians In and out OF
ONCE, and some Of tho sxpectants gravey discussed
the propriety OF Immediately ranging themselves
under the folds Of the red nag In order TO put thom.
selves in complete rapport With the powers that be-
while those Of = moro conservative stripe growled
audbiy at the familiar relations which the Lieutenant
Governors visit seemed 10 indicate between that
eminent onlcial and tho apostles OF anarchy. Some
ofth more increduIous pretended that the affair
huge joke. played on on the LioutcSant Governor
By sons willy rival for Senatorial nonors, while
others saw IN nothing but the clever man@uvre OF
skilled politician to win the sympathy Of
party whose power seems certain 70 be
fet ~ the tall. Persons Of sociastic eanngs were
delighted, because they In the Lieutenant Gov
ernor's action certain proof OF the influence which
the socialstic movement had already obtained over
the public mind and promise OF tho future triumph
Of their cherished principles In order to cor
rect any inaccuracy Of de aa which might crept
Into the HERALD account od meeting destined to be-
come - historic as the nesting OF the two Emperors
1t Tils when the fortuaes Of two great empires
Entrusted to the unstable keeping OF raft. reporter
called upon Lieutenant Governor Dorshsimer at his
ONCE In this city. On sending in his card the reporter
vas Immediately admitted. Tho Lieutenant Governor
received his visitor with his accustomed urbnnity,
md while She reporter explained the nature OF his
business pleasant subtle smilc passed over the high
Miciaps face
TIE REASON OF THE VISIT
'.You want 10 know all about my visit to MIR.
schwabs" he said. with good numored twinkle in
bis bright, watchiul eyes. ..welL, yes, | paid Mr.
schwab visi. on Saturday, and enjoyed
glass Of beer in bw saloon" Then, pausing
Tor moment. be rang bell, and, ON tho ap-
pearance Of an attendant, he ordered . copy Of
The HERALD 10 DO brought 70 him. turning again
toward the reporter. he SAID: -"I soc you devote
quite long article 70 my Interview with Mr. SchwaD
aud as the reporter settled himself for serious in
ssrvew the Lieutenant Governor remarked, ssYou
seem to DO very much on tho abort The HERALD has
gwen too much Importance 10 the affair. My visit to
Mr. schwab bad nothing to do with politics. I won't
10 see HIM only ous OF curiosity, because had heard
. great dsal about this man and was anxious 10
form an opinion Of him hy personal observation Then
was DESTROYS OF finding out what truth there might
hs IN the circulated shout possible disturb
xnc<s In the city this summer, and thought the bes
way to inform myself was to the socialist leader
pcrsonally. OF course l was acquainted with the
general aims OF the socfanstIc movement; but what
wished to learn was their immediate plans and the
direction of sheir political action SO far rs 10 might
DO likely TO anect the peace Of this State"
'W6at do you think about the aims OF the socialist
par,ysn
OF VIOLENCE.
ut s impossible Tor TO form an opinion on that
subject from single conversation with one or the
leaders, Mr.. schwab gave good deal OF nforina-
ton about tho movement, and supplied me with
number Of apers explanatory Of their aims and pro-
posed mode OF procedure. He impressed me as an
intelligent and bold man, OF fine physique, and
seemed to be very frank in the express
sion Of his views He disciaimed In a very
decided manner for himself and his associate
socialists any intention Of resorting violence Ho
pointed out that the socialistic party wished to
schieve their aims by pcaceable methocs and by th
use 81 the ballot. In support Of this he referred
mo TO some Of the papers which ne had furnished.
White condsmning strongly tho late attempts assas.
snats the Emperor William OF Germany. no spoke In
very Impressive way about the provocaions wnich
the class OF people, TO which he (Schwab) belonged,
suffered at the hands or tho Emperor and his
government. He complained OF the repressivc
laws which directed against them, and charged
Emperor William with many acts OF personal cruelty
committed in the suppression 5f the revolutionary
movement In lS4s. first In Berlin and later Baden.
Hs statements reference these events very
Impressive"
"Then your visit TO Mr. schwab had no political sig
pincancef"
NOT POLITICAL.
"None whatever. did make any ovsrtures or
alliance TO Mr.. Schwab. nor hal any intention Of
dong SO. paragraph In tho HERALD this morning
attributes to mo words spoken by hr. Pagen
Taxing up a copy Of the HERALD which had been
brought In by tho messenger, tho Lieutenant Gov
pointed paragraph In the article "whal's
In the windf" which reads:-
The Lieutenant Governor then suggested The advis-
aUrt ~
but MI Scnwab. on behalf OF hS party gave this sug
ecstiou decisive negative.
II aid not make any suggestion or the kind. Mr..
Page however, diu say something TO tho eject that
the socialists would be compelled chose between tho
candidates Of the existing par.es he did not make
any suggestions OF an alliance Il was mistake TO
attribute these words IL no doubt arose either
w Mr. schwab or the reporter conIounding what I
said with what Mr.. Page said. Too much importance
Mas been gwen 10 this incident Judged by the start
ing head lines TINS affa0 seems very Important but
Mis idea 10 mod'ned by roadins the small type II 10
: way the newspapers have when they have got a
ssnsation."
''somc people thought you haa gone over 10 tns
socialists. IL would! do 10 have Lieutenant
Governor JOIN them"
MIR. DORIS TxIxsR 80 SOCIALIST
Tho Governor iookei the reporter with a placid
sm'lo anu replied, Cannot public man have a talk
with pofson frotn nom ne uucfs 10 Opiutou WIN
sat gong over I. bma No publie man can remain
indifferent TO this sciastic movement ethcr here
ID Europe nor Co any movement IN which large
masses Of men interested. I wished to learn
something abou. the movement from per
sonai observats,n, and With that purpose
paid tho visit 10 Mr.. schwab which seems
10 have distur bed the HgaALD. II this move
mont had taken place the last generation we would
study Il in books; why then should we not study u
among living u.enY'
Do you tlifnk NE socialistic move already
assumed iml,s r,ancc in this Slater"
Mr. schwnAb spoke only Of the orgsn as pos
Sesane s.ros glh In this city and IN BuraIo"
els 10 liz ely TO exert any marked innnence on tho
Vail sisasfn
rus COMING rowEn.
III do nat thiak that the Communist party will do
50: but tie general labor movement, which embraces
tho soc allied national party aud the national green
Back party, wi undoubted make itself felt Ia tho