The New York herald., 1878-06-13

views, and no told MIN at that time.
as l rscoec, that he gave the Weber agreement 70
hc said he sent to Matthew'S my recollection is that
he saw Mr. Harlan was promised some position ana
Mr.. Matthews, but my recollection is that ne gavei
10 Harlan.
Q. Then you know ne was sent with conident
letter OF inirod uct,on iron Senator Matthews ME
Harlan; that he wSs visiting Mr. Harlan 6a nd
forth, and that no had given hm copy q the Weber
afhdsvitf A. Yes; my recollection - that never
knew what was In hat agreement until saw u IN
print.
Q. Which document did he tell you be gave Harlan
on your recollection, the original or the copyS A The
original
q Didn't you say to him, ..what on earth did harlan
want OF tnat?" A. doni recolect our conversation;
cannot givo the words used, but expressed much
O. In answer 10 that surprise what did Mr. Andcr
son says Let mo help you. Didn't he say. ''Why,
han promised would g%s gv' Sas % nm sI w0u,a
The effect was, OF course, that Mr. Harlan and MT.
Matthew'S would secure him an Office
Q Did You express any surprise 10 Anderson that
after Matthews and Harlan had been informed that he
haa made fraudulent agreement with Nash and
him an once A. have no doubt did.
Q. DO you remember soY A. Certainly.
q. How did Anderson meet that surprise OF yoursr
A. You'll nave 10 hop mo
Q. guess can. Did no not say he was employed
by Matthews 10 watch tho PACKARD people tor himf
Q. And to report TO Harlan about ns A. never
heard anything about toe Packard government
z. II didn't surprise you that Harlan wanted TO
consult this man? A. My recollection ia that sup
posed ho wanted him Tor the purpose OF consulting In
O. You wore surprised that no wanted to give him
ofcc but not surprised that he wanted to consult
him about Tho Officer A.. That is about the idea.
Q. Now, then. you had learned from Anderson that
no mad false affidavit that thcre fair election
when you believed there was unfair ones You had
had learned that he HAD got letter that
oS from very eps ,hn a.. bsa
TO do with tho ettcrf You were about being candi-
date Tor Collector, aud that being the condition OF
ktVuu AnAo hAl nVArD VAS
q. Now, then. you expected help from him on nc.
count Of his having these documeatsY A. Certainly,
Q. And you expected go. into oce upon the fears
OF the administration through some Of s principals
attacnGs. OF tho publication OF these documents
A. That was one OF tho means.
O. That was one OF the crutches you were to walk
on A. Certainly
q whether mo right bower or tho left bower we
won't say now As the record shows, you worked up
to tho best OF your ability that right bower? A. Ger
Q And now, sir. do not you believe you failed be.
your conscisncs was ,ha. mot ~ a. In
my opinion either myself or some other
toinso. but for tho aos thar was known ina. copies
OF these documents were in the possession Of othor
parties ana that they were virtually public property
II these documents had not been published you
would havc been willing TO have owed your election TO
the efforts Of perjurer and blackmailer with alse
documents ne collector at one Of tho principal occsP
A. You have stated him TO bc such.
@ You yourseli stated II now. A. Not OF my own
O. You knew the man TO be corrupt, you believed
his afioavis TO be iaisc you knew his aequaintanccs
would say he was drunkard and you knew .nat
using those documents for this purpose was simply
blackmaiiingf A. Certainly.
O. Then have not you stated all that have9
q. Then We don't substantially differ; and you
wore sorry you iaileds A. Naturally. LaughteLl
messenger from Matthews 10 Harlan? Not at all,
O. You knew Mr. Matthews knew him 10 be Jus.
vbnfy you AyCQD A n
OF him? A. Thing he was generally we'll known TO
.xr Matthews
O On .hc 10Th Of April you had learned that your
candidaturc up-in old Saxon "your cake
dough, and the papers wore not any lo.ger instru
the 10th OF Aprii2 A. l cannot give you any in.
formation as 10 that telegram cannot explain that
Q. Lot me II can help you; you had just bcen
beaten; were you not just as we'll satisfied then
have tho papers publishedf A. Oh NO, SIR; had no
q Aiterward you told him be had batter pitch in
A. There is but one explanation can give you
csr,ssu tho aoossn.u,s prsv,oss 20 sSs issx
OF April; about the time the appointments was made,
mo that he mad tsisgrapbe1 Anderson 10 como over,
auc hsd signed my name TO the telegram, Anderson
Packard, though he well acquainted with both OF
us; that may explain the matter.
q ButPackard was beaten before you began, and
you wanted to antagonze him. You wore beaten and
Packard. too. by tho 10Th Of April How do you ex-
PLAIN that Packard wanted the pspersY They wcro
gwen the bert recollection have.
O. Now, then, when you saw tho papers, they
d,un't seem 10 you to DO OF any CONSEQUENCE A.
Well, would consider the letters OF Mr. Matthews
Mr.. sherman, If the originals could DO produced,
important documents
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