Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1878-06-12

genious suggestion? Ans.-Yes; l was tn,
author of that ingenious suggestion, ant
| they gave me credit for IL afterwaId.
The Chairman-J understood you 10 say
the other day, that when you stated certain
facts before the senate Louisiana committee
| your drift was to allow the committee to draw
false differences?
Witness-Not that exactly, because haC
not much idea that day what was going t.
| do; they put me on the stand before consult
| ing me; the impression among the Repub i
| cans ives that they would not put me on the
| stand either before the senate or house com.
mIttee, and when they did put me on mad,
| the best possible case could for the Repub
licans, combining myself, as near as | could
| to the truth-that is, | made as good Re
publican case as | could.
The Chairman-And you did not depart
from the truth any more than ~as necessary
| to do thatP
Witness-I did not depart from the truth
at all.
Mr.. Cox-I desire to ask you few cues.
| tons with reference to the original agree
ment between you and Weber. Do you re-
member with clearness your meeting with
Weber about the time the original agree
ment was executed? Ans.-I do.
Ques.-Is it not true, as matter of fact
that you only acknowledged that paper before
notary, and not Weber? Ans.-1t is not.
Ques-Did not some one, after the &C
acknowledgement was made, write IN the words,
land D. A. Weber, at the end of the &C
acknowledgement? Ans.-No, sir.
Ques.-After acknowledgment was made,
was the name of d. A. Weber written there
on? Ans.-No. sir.
Mr.. Reed-Did you ever say to any one
that the letter written by you to Sherman
was signed by Stoughton? Ans.-I did not
Mr.. Reed-Did you at any time say you
had letter written TO Sherman by Slough
ton? Ans.-I did not.
Mr. Reed-Among the letters sent to the
New York Sun, of July I'd, which one of
Sherman's letters was among the number
Ans.-The one on the long printed slip.
Mr.. Reed-When you offered Agnes Jencks
FIVE hundred dollars for Sherman's letter, did
you have that amount with you? No; but |
could have borrowed it in Philadelphia on my
own responsibility.
The witness made statement to the effect
that during his previous examination Mr..
Reed, of the committee, had put good many
words in his mouth which he had no idea of
uttering.
James A. BOuIds
appointment clerk of the postoffice depart
ment, was summoned, and produced letter
from the postmaster general stating that
Baulds had the papers and books inquired for
by the committee, in reference to the ap-
DOlDIncnlS VI JUS a. 1OW tlu anu bduiOo
Baker. Boulds was examined at length by
General Butler, and stated that Baulds Baker
first entered the postoffice department Octo-
Der Is, 1876, as twelve hundred dollar
clerk under the administration of Postmaster
General Tyner. The names of the parties
recommending his appointment were o. P.
Morton, John Hancock, and Representatives
Throckmorton and Culbertson. Baker con-
tinued in that position until April 1, 1877,
xuba no dismissed and a nrII IL
1877, at the instance of the parties first rec
ommending his appointment and others, he
was appointed special agent at twelve hun
dred dollars per annum, and five dollars per
diem.
deputy sixth auditor of the treasury depart
ment, was recalled, and said, in reply to ques
tons by Mr. Cox, that the salary of Baulds
Baker was paid strictly in accordance with
the authority given in the revised statutes.
Baker was one of sixty special agents. The
for the appointment Of
George Howard as assistant clerk to the
electoral commission were signed by Senators
M'Creery, Hoar and others. The recon-
mendatlons were based upon Towards eff
cient service in compiling the volume known
as 1.-The Count of the Electoral Vote" Re-
cess.
The committee having reassembled, the
chairman inquired of the sergeant alarms If
Darrall, of Louisiana, was
present. The sergeant at arms sand that
Darrall had been In waiting, but went to see
Senator Kellogg, who said that Darrall had
gone to see the President
At the opening of the afternoon session
Ex-COngressman G. Il. DarralI
was sworn and examined by Mr.. M Mahon.
Mr.. Darrall, in response to few preliminary
questions. gave the names of the principal
applicants for the position of collector of the
port of New Orleans, and the examination
proceeded as follows:
Ques.-Wno was pushing George S. Smith,
who finally secured the office-what associa-
ton of parties? Ans.-I do not know that
anybody was, except that he was appointed
this is entirely my opinion--on the recon-
mendation of the returning board, although
Smith is a man of pretty good record and
generally acceptable.
Ques.-At what time did you become ac-
quainted with Senator Mathews first? Ans
/ was introduced to him, think, when he
was down there as a visiting statesman, as it
was called; met him in New Orleans more
than a year ago; 1 have been acquainted
since the beginning of the session, in Octo-
Der, and have met him frequently.
Ques.-Did he take any part In the contest
for the collectorship of New Orleans. Ans
Yes, sir; think so. At least it was supposed
among all of US that he had considerable in
huence with the President, and | called on
him in regard to that matter several times,
as others of our friends from the State did.
Ques.-Have you now any recollection of
when Mr.. Anderson came over here In con-
nection with either Mr.. Packard's claim or
yours to the collectorshlp? Ans.-Anderson
had an interview about the middle of Janua
nv in regard to that matter. Anderson rep
resented to me and Packard that he had
some influence with Senator Mathews,
and he volunteered to go and see Math-
ews, and did so, l think. Senator Mathews
told me-in fact, he authorized me-to say to
Mr.. Packard that he had withdrawn all his
opposition; to say to him that Mr. Packard
would be acceptable to him, and he informed
me that the trouble was that the President
did not want Packard. Before that Mathews
had been bitterly opposed to Packard. | had
been to see him some time before Packard
saw him.
Ques.-What was the influence, if you
know, from this convers alton, that Anderson
exercised over Senator Mathews which
brought about the change of front? Ans
do not think Anderson S influence brought
about the change; it helped. think, but
do not think 1t brought about the change.
Ques.-What did? Ans.-I talked with
Senator Mathews a number of times, and
other gentlemen from our State did about
that time. You know there was a change of
front down there. Senator Mathews had
stood very "ell in our State, and had been
commended for his. part In what was called
the Wormley conference, and one thing and
another, and setting up the Nichols govern
ment, and the newspapers got to abusing
him, and he did not feel so friendly to the
Democratic element, that hel ped to bring him
around; and then, also, the interview with
myself, and think Anderson, a great deal,
because Senator Mathews represented to me
that he had said to Anderson that he had
finally become satisfied that Packard under
stood better the wants of parties down there,
and was the proper man to be appointed.
As to any other influence, Senator Mathews
never represented that Anderson had any.
Ques-After the time that you became sat-
isfed that Packard could not get the position
of collector, you then urged your own claims +?
Ans.-This is a very peculiar administration. l
was going to say that up to within three or four
days of Smiths appointment Senator Math-
ews thought Packard's chances very good,
and l represented to Mathews and to the
President that preferred Packard's appoint
ment If he was as well satisfied with his own.
Mathews informed me up to within probably
two weeks of his appointment that he thought
Packard would get it.
Ques.-Was it at that time that it looked
very well for you to get in? Ans-Yes sir: