The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-06-18
BOUNCING HAYES.
THE LOUISIANA COMMISSION Ex.
PENsE BILL AFFORDS TEE
OCCASION.
savage Attack by Blaine and COnkIing-
Questions for Hayes 80 Answer.


Questions for Hayes 80 Answer.
THE SENATE.
WASHINGTON, June 1.-THE morning hour
having expired, Mr.. voorhees, moved to sus-
pend The present order and to reconsider the
vote which postponed the eight hour resolu-
ton until December Rejected; yeas %,
nays N.
Mr.. Window, from the Committee on APP
preparations, reported the first forty pages OF
the sundry. civil bill, just received from the
printer, and asked that other business be set
aside, and the Senate proceed with the con-
sideration OF the bill. SO ordered
Mr. Window stated that, as the bill left the
House IL appropriated In all $16, 847, 275; there
had been added by the Senate committee
$401g, 945, making 1t now stand $40, 89G,620.
The total appropriated last year was SIT, i83-
$50 making an excess this year of SO. 732, $40.
The total estimates for 1879 we're 1914, g37. 1856.
The BILL therefore, Is less than the estimates
by S4,O7256G. The total added for public
other public works SOL 900; total for de-
ficiences $l573 1854; making $685., 9G4. The
balance was minor matters.
The item for deficiencies did not properly
belong to the sundry civil bill, but was
usually put In the deficiency bills.
All the amendments recommended by the
committee up To page 30 were agreed TO, with
an additional paragraph offered by Mr., Beck,
appropriating $4,000 for lighthouse at Point
Port Galveston harbor.
When the item for the expenses and COM
pensHtiOn OF the commission appointed by
the President to go to Louisiana, $4,000, or so
much thereof as may be necessary, was read,
Mr.. Spencer said he had the items Of the eX-
penses OF the commission, which he desired
to have read, and he sent up a newspaper slip
containing an alleged statement In detail,
which was read by the Clelk. These items,
Mr.; Spencer said, were wholly unauthorized
by law.
Mr.. Conkling said that in the State of Lou
islana a condition of things existed which
summoned the President TO his feet to an
swer. One question was, whether Packard
was legally the Governor of the State. That
question was addressed to the President
alone. He would not argue now whether the
President had the right to send the commits
sion The commission went to New Orleans
to disregard the only question that was adj
dressed to the President, and to proceed on
other grounds and do other things than those
authorized by the constitution and the laws.
Without going into items, he would say
that If anybody had ordered the national
bank to embark Its funds in the commission,
1t was not the duty of the Senate to introduce
a provision In an appropriation bill to legalze
the commission. He hoped that his brevity
had not got him TO be understood as being of
the impression that the President had not q
right TO withdraw the troops from Louisiana,
or use them for other purposes. To do what
those five men were sent to do was violation
OF the constitution and the law.
Mr.. Thurman said that the condition Of
things In Louisiana, as he saw it to be- was
that Packard claimed to be Governor, and
some men claiming to be the Legislature re-
cognized Packard as Governor. 1t was ad-
mitted on all sides that there was not
quorum that could legally elect In either
branch. At the same time Gen. Nichols
claimed to be Governor and body of men
claimed to be the Legislature, and recog-
nized him as Governor. In point OF fact, there
was but one Legislature and one Governor;
Tor Packard and his Legislature were cooped
up in one building, In which they were pro-
tected BY United States troops, and outside of
which they had no power-so that the de fdcto
government was Nichols and his Legislature.
The Packard government only existed by
the support of Federal bayonets. The idea of
the right OF a defeated" candidate to appeal
to the President to be set up against the de-
was the duty of the President to find out
what government he was TO recognize, Con-
gress not being In session.
Mr.. Kellogg said that he had not proposed
TO mix In the debate, but there was one point
In the speech Of the Senator to which he de-
sired to call the attention of the Senate,
which was that the Packard Legislature was
not legal Legislature, and was not reeog-
nized by the people. The Legislature met on
the first OF January as provided by the con-
stitution of the State, with legal quorum in
both Houses. The fact that fifty-seven of
those members were recognized by the Mich
oils Legislature, under the OmniSsion.
ought to be evidence of this fact. In the SEN
ate there was a quorum, but he would admit
that 1t was not Oh certificates Of election.
Here was the Legislature, meeting at the
time and In the manner prescribed by law,
with an undisputed Governor for there was
not an officer from the Arkansas border to the
gulf that questioned his (KelIogg's) title
This Legislature had been recognized by him,
and when the Nichols government applied
for recognition he had refused, for he had
short time before recognized the Packard
Legislature.
Mr.. Blaine said he would not do anything
that would be like spite, but there was
question here, and to make the appropriation
would be to recognize the act of this commits
sion. These men were sent down to Louis-
ana to toll off enough men from the Packard |
Legislature to make quorum In the Nichols |
Legislature. He did not think the President
had a right to send them there for that our
pose. He repeated what he said last spring, |
THAT, Ii Packard WIS not elected, the Presf- |
dent was not elected"
According to the doctrine laid down here, |
Abraham Lincoln could never have taken his |
seat He would have been prevented by a |
Democratic mob. Washington was filled with |
Democratic mob that were hostile to him.
and would have prevented his Inauguration
but for the troops.
He euloglzed Winfield Scott as q noble.
brave, patriotic, grand old soldier, who had
stood over a battery In front of the Capitol
when Lincoln was sworn into Office and frus-
trated the Democratic mob.
These men never made a suggestion to
huhu up tile AIFGIuUtHb. lUHy never
suggested that to any OF the Nichols Legis-
lature. The action of this commission had
thrown into confusion and changed the con-
stitutional results of the Presidential cleo
ton, and it was responsible for all the mis-
chief which had followed. He was not dis
posed to pay them, and thereby recognize
their legality The Governor of Louisiana
sits IN his chair to-day, placed there by
mob.
Mr.. Mcdonald asked if the vote by which
Packard was elected was ever counted.
Mr.. Beck read letter of the Secretary of
the Treasury recommending the appropria-
tton, and said that whether the President
erred or not in sending the commission, it
Mr.. Sargent said the Senate could not afford
The time now TO discuss the Louisiana ques-
lion, and therefore moved to lay the amend
ment on the table.
Mr.. Blaine-Nor can it afford to pay this
bill.
The question was taken on the motion to Law