New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-08-06
TILDEN'S FUTURE PLANS.

WHAT PROMINENT DEMDCHAI bA1o Of luh liz
DEN "MACHIEE" -oyERTUREs TO CHIEF-JusncE
CHURoH-THE Ex-GovERNoR's COMMENTS ON
HIS FRIENDS.
Samuel j. Tilden has had his private
political machine in full blast for than six months,
said au influential Democrat yesterday. but have
good Democratic information for the basis OF belief
that his machine is what used TO be, and that II Is
making very little headwaynot enough 20 counterfeit
the setback he and his friends received at the State
Convention little less than year ago."
outs de OF Tammany circles it was Psled, "is he
not strong rs formerly2"
al think not far from it, Democrats now begin to
know him. SO long his system of political burrOwing
and wirepulling successful and sufficient for sue
cess, nc passed for great Well he lie most re-
markabe man. and wonderfully fertile in expedients
But when he caught in pinch he revealed his true
character. great many Democrats think that If the
party was cheated out of the Presidency by fraud
Tildens indecision and tempOrizlng mainly re-
sponsible for it,"
"What is he doing y
81 learn through private sources that Mr. Tlden is
doing all he to effect reconciliation with Chief
Justice Church. OF the Court Of Appeals and his friends
This is very polite move, for outside Of the city there
single Democrat in the State who has the personal
following that Judge Church commands 1t is reported
that Tlden's overtures thus far have been cOldy
ceved, and don't think that they viii succeed. 1t is
an old saying that burnt child breads the fire. Judge
Church has had experience with Tilden's fire. He re-
members that when he declined the offered nomination
for Governor and showed considerable frendlness to
Mr. TdeD the latter after obtaining the GubernatOria
nomination. and then election, began at once to un
dermne Judge Churchs political influence. probably
fearing that the latter might be obstacle in the
Of Tidens higher ambition. Among other things Til
tried TO convey the impression that the Court Of
Appeals was friendly to members OF the Canal Ring
This gave great offence 70 Judge Church"
"What IS the basis Of the treaty Of peace that Tden
proposes 3"
IL Is said that he offers TO his influence to make
Church United Senator Or If the ChiofJustce
is not ambitious in that direction Tlden is willing to
help OF Judge Churchs friends. This Is fair ind-
OF the strait Tiden finds himself in. When the
dcvil was sick. the devil would be; when the
devil well, the devil monk was he That has
been Tlden's policy toward Judge Church. Now that he
finds himself weak In his ranks he is cOnciiatOry"
"Is ChiefJustice Church ambitious OF going to the
United States Senatei"
"The impression prevails that he is not This argu-
ment been used to influence him to surrender the
position nolds Tilden's friends have to him
that he getting to that age when the labor Of his
position great; that Judges Of the Court Of APP
peals short-lived, and that the change to
varied and social life, that Of United States
Senator, would probably prolong his usefulness"
why should TiIdeu in early in the State can
vast"
'He knows that his Presidential fortunes probably de-
pend his oDtroling the Democratic State COnyen-
ton Last years defeat also taught him the uncertainty
OF conventions. He felt Of having everything his
own way and intended for himself the graiifca-
ton Of keeping the Tammany delegation out Of the
venton Then he went of 20 Europe, 60 appear to
be a silent spectator OF party differences. Democrat
who was in Paris when the that the
ton had placed Mr.. Tdens friends, Bigelow and Fair
child, the she I. told me- few days ago, how the
a. nj On ef rec usl the no
"Mr. Tiden John Bige.ow and Abram s. Hewitt" the
SPEAKER continued were saunteflhg along tne b9ue-
wards the daY OF the convention or the morning After
aD If the state MI Hewitt Enowlng that this GEN
tleinun got the quickly anybody, stepped In
advance OF us friends and asked " there was any news
lrgm ne yonyeh'Gn iss, rGPGe me aed
cred Mr. Hewitt but say nothing about H TO Tilden
let him dad 10 out himself; he will be disappointed and
moruse Ind keep up under cloud for the diy AS soon
Dir Tlden NJ suspected there news, and
inquired. Haven't you heard Il Z the gentleman asked
your friends have been defeated in the convention.
am told that Mr.. Tildens turned pale and his elm
dropped. lie turned to John Bige.ow and said This
comes OF my listening the advice OF friends II had
been the field TINS thing would not have happened
They then walked toward Mr.. T,dens hotel, Mr.. Tden
making a running bitter commentary on some or his
friends IN the State saying that " this one had done this
and that one that they might have changed the com
pexIOn nf the DELEGATIONS aud controlled the
ton. AZ the hotel Mr.. Tden found private
dispatches confirming his defeat For the remainder OF
the day Lie was almost spcpchess. and walked about
with tue apparently vacant and unreadaoe expression
frequently bis cOuntenaBee wnen he Is yexed or
Is ongag ed IN some deep thinking"
Z" Who are doing the major part OF Mr. TIden's work
now 2"
Edgar X. Apgar. who has been made the beneficiary
OF an appropriation OF % 900, believe, TO inspect the
charitable institutions OF the State, and VIM. ". Gordon,
Past Warden Of this city. are busy travelling over the
STATE, stirring up Mr. Tllden's friends also the bust
ness manager OF The Albany Argus. smith Weed Is
probably eXertng himself 10 the purpose. He and
ex-MlyUr Wickhlm pay frequent visits to MIR. Iden,
headquarters Tor the summer are at the E1erOn
at Long Branch. Corporation Counsel Whitney Is living
there and Henry T. DimOtk said to be requen tly at
the Tildeu council fires"
What very prominent Democrats are dissatisfied
with Mr. Tilden a.
Ex-Governor Seymour Is one. He has arrived at
that age when political disappoin tment sOurs mans
disposition lie his cOunrY-seat Utica, and
grumbes occasionally gt the present order of things,
like Charles Francis Adams ut Quincy. Seymour has
the pet OF his party. His appearance at cOnven
tion was tho signal for uproar OF lppanse. He
wanted 20 be President aud failed. He wanted 10 be
Governor, aud they didn't compel him to accept the
nomination. Naturally he Is displeased TO see Tden
step in and take tile position he has always held In the
party Then he charges the defeat ia the last
IOn OF Fairchd. who married his niece, 60 Tden and
Tammany Hail, the accusation OF mismana cement fall
ing Tden. Mr. Seymour Is described as pacing his
pilzza with his hands casped behind bin, ana bewailng
tue present cement State politics and the
throw OF Fauchld. Mr.. SeymOurs feelings, II cor
rcctY reported not encouraging sign Tor Mr. Til
den"