Perrysburg journal. (Perrysburg, Wood Co., O. [Ohio]) 186?-1965, 1878-08-30


other evidence that would prove a conspiracy
by the Republican party to throw out the five
bulldozed parishes of East Feliciana, Washe-
taw, Morehouse, Richand and East Baton
Rouge. he further said that he could secure
us the parish OF East Feliciana, but that he
was poor aud II he did so would probably be
thrown into prison on trumped-up charges.
He agreed to do so II we paid him 81, 900 then
and 81 900 after the count was declared His
proposition was considered and accepted, as
we did not think there was any wrong in pro-
curing evidence to show Republican frauds
and rascality. The proposition would have
been carried out but for the fact that we had
no money.
Witness continued: II was also communi-
Gated to Gov. Nichols that there was a dem
Onstration to exact two Republican United
States Senators from the Nichols Legislature
in consideration for the yielding up of the
State; this was what chiefly brought him to
Washington. Il was learned that the leading
Republicans, close to the Administration in
power, came to the conclusion that the bayo-
net rule could not be maintained i'm Louis
lana, and that they were willing to abandon
Packard If they could strengthen their waning
power in the United States Senate. These
facts were communicated to witness on his
arrival in Washington. He had interviews
with Secretary of War Cameron on Louisiana
matters and as to how the Nichols govern
ment might be allowed to maintain itself; /;
that interview took place about the 9th or 9th
of February, 1871; IL was at a private house
Cameron appeared to be impressed with the
conviction that the Nichols Government
should prevail, as he appeared to be fully
aware of the condition of things there; the
difficulties in the way were touched upon
such as the decreasing power of the Repub-
lican party in the United States Senate and
that they would as a party question oppose
any action in Louisiana that would lessen
their power in the Senate.
The difficulties presented in case the vote
of the State declared for Havpe a
discussed, and the witness assured Mr.. Came
ron that he could present the legal theory on
which the Nichols Government could be sus-
tanned, even if the Electoral count was given
to Hayes; that the Returning Board had no
power to count the vote for Governor or Lieu
tenant Governor; the Democrats had already
a majority in both Houses.
Witness was TO have prepared a memorial
setting forth the theory under which he
claimed they could act He telegraphed this
matter to Gov. Nicholas; the memorial was to
be drawn, setting forth all the law and facts,
and to be addressed to the President of
the Senate and House of Representatives,
| with the view OF getting bill passed
| taking the power from tine Returning Board
Of counting the vote for Governor and Lieu
| tenant-GOvernor. Gov. Nichols, by his re
| plies did not seem to understand the propOsi-
| tiOn about the memorial, while witness
| understood from Secretary Cameron that
| two Republican United States Senators
would be exacted from Louisiana pro
| vided the Nichols Government was rec.
| Ognized, yet there was no special pledge made
and the matter was deferred, and Columbus
Delano went to Columbus, Ohio, i'll reference
| to the matter. Witness believed Mr. Sher
man was acting with Mr.. Cameron in the
matter of the United States Senatorships
/ Representative Gibson had told him so; in
conversation with Sherman on the 26tA OF
| February the difficulties of recognizing the
| Nichols Government were discussed, ant
| from that conversation hp hplipVp1 Sherman
was opposed to the election of two Demo
cratic United States Senators. Witness sug
gested that the trouble could be overcome b.
postponing the election until after the in
auguration of the President and the forma
ton of the Cabinet.
Witness said he did not believe at any tim
after the 10th of January that General Gran
believed the Packard Government should b.
sustained; he believed General Grants polio
favorable to the Nichols Government bega
the 9th of January when he refused Kellogg
request for more troops. ,.and declined to recog
nize either Government; on and after the 2Ot
or January he evtnced a desire To recognize til
Nichols Government.
Mr.. Hiscock-Then all your negotiation
with persons in Washington were simply wit
the view of getting the Hayes Government
not TO interfere with the Nichols Govern
ment as it had been already legally established
A.-They were with that object. think MI
HAYES had made up his mind before thes
ward Louisiana.
The dispatch sent by President Grant, stat
ing that if either Government was recognize
il should be the Packard Government, wa
sent, we believed, solely with the object q
keeping the Packard Legislature from fallin
to pieces; we were assured of this by our rel
resentatives; in conversations with Mr.. Howe
Frye, Wadleigh, and others, they always mail
tanned the policy of recognizing the Pacfar
Government; our apprehensons were of IN
old Republican leaders and not as to Nj
HAYES action; we wanted the troops Will
drawn before any issues were raised likely
endanger the peace; We wanted to have q
many prominent Republicans as possible con
mitted to our policy in case anything shoul
turn up my impression of DeanO's visit {
Columbus was that it was for the purpose c
finding how far Mr.. Hayes would go in tn
matter of recognizing the Nichols Cover
ment, on condition of Louisiana returning wv
/ United States Senators; | think heard lroI
some one that Hayes refused to have anythin
to do with the matter.
| Q-WhO told You that!
This question was waived until tomorrow
; The next witness sworn was w. K. Horn,
: resident of Texas. He said he came TO Wasl
) ington in 1876 and got into the Treasur
Department. Gen. Butler questioned witness
7 Q.-Now Major Burke says you sent di
: patch to Gov. Young the Goth of Februar
: giving him the results of the Wormley Col
ference and got reply!
Witness refused to answer, as he acted !
2 the capacity of legal adviser. He admitted
however, receiving the telegram given abov,
Gov. Young called on him after his arrival
Washington.
+ Odd he take you to see Gov Hayes.
/ Witness declined to answer.
a Q.-Were you in New Orleans at the tin
D the subcommittee of this committee va
there. A. | have nothing more To say, Gel
( eral. got letters from Gov. Young reques
S ing me to let him know how things were pr,
( crossing at Washington, both by mail an
telegraph. Witness said he had never r
e ceived any compensation from Gov. YOun
a for his seryices he had several interview
+ with President Hayes after his inauguration
4 but he could not say what he said to him.
+ Adjourned until tomorrow.
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