New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-08-22
THE TESTIMONY.

MAJOR BURKE's STORY ABOUT THE CONSULTATION
AT woRMLEY's HOTEL-sEARCHING FOR DOCU-
MENTs WHICH THE WITNESS SAID DID MOI TX
IsT-GENERAL BUTLER QUESTIONS THE WIT
NKss's TRUTHFULNEss.
The Potter Committee, although it adjourned
on Tuesday at 10 yesterday, did not get TO
work until nearly IL o'clock Mr.. Blackburn still
absent Major Burke was on the stand and General
Butler resumed his crOss-examination
General Butler-When we adjourned yesterday we had
got 10 the consultation al Wormeys and you said that
Louisiana matters freely discussed In that dis
cusson did question how this thing to
be managed by Mr. Hayes, when Packard had more
votes than Mr. Hayes A-The result was set forth in
my telegram to Nichols OF February 26.
OIL don't ask that Was there any discussion of the
difficulties that lay in the way tho ground that Pack
ard had votes than Hayesi ACUTE plainly, sir,
by the assurances that troops would be withdrawn
from any interference in the local affairs Of the State
The understanding that tho friends OF Mr.. Hayes
would go to President Grant and urge it to be done at
once.
Q-suppose he did not DO itI A.-Tben It was to be
done by President Hayes by such methods would
suit In Nicholas possession Of the State Government
They agreed 20 Grant aud do what they might to
have done once give us most positive assurances
that II IL not done by Grant it would be done BY
President Hayes.
Q-"N Now tell me whether you aid not agree-yOu,
Gibson Ellis, Levy anu NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. you uiu
not agree with Matthews, Foster, and others, that If
they would agree their part that the troops should
be withdrawn either by Grant Hayes in considera-
ton thereof you would agree to do best 10 have
opposition to the counting in Of Hayes cease AThat
we would agree 10 advise friends in the House TO
Withdraw their opposition to the electoral count
Q-These gentlemen believed that it would be done
A-They appeared 10 believe.
Q-And in fact when things were settled thoroughly
Il was done A.-Nearly all opposition with
drawn We gave ADVICE to friends IN the House
that we were satisfied with the that bad
received to other guarantees we have carried
them out.
Q.-Now did you sec MT. Springer after this Worm
Icy confereneel A.. think dbl know did.
Odd you show nim any paperi Al did, sir. 1t
was Dispatch on February %. Of Governof Kellogg,
signed by Burke, Ellis, and Levy.
Q.-Did you show him any other paperl Ayes, sir.
Q.-What paper was That Alt was amended
and corrected guarantee, given by INC for the Nichols
government
o-Any other paperi A.-None TO my recollection
q Is more than probable that the correspondence was
exhibited 20 Mr. SpFinger-that IA 70 say the telegram
OF Nichols embracing the substance Of the under
standing and tae telegram from Nichols giving the
action OF the Legislative in Louisiana think
they were attached together
Q--You see you nave not shown me ything the
other side and yoR wanted 20 convince him you had
guarantees. You would not convince much that
way. A.-Perhsps my word was good authority.
Q--PardOn mo- but what other peoples words to
you Did you not tell him that had signed
meuti Al aid not.
The witness continued, under constant Interruptions
from General Butlerw tried prevent him from
ing any explanation aud compel him TO simply
zee or no 10 bis quessns eve proceeded upon the the
ofy that the representatives in Congress from LOuslna
aud myself representing the interests OF the State
don't think that MI. Springer asked to any
paper; II showed him any Il was Of our own volt
tien.
General BJtler-Can you show me a single word IN
your dispatch TO Governor Nichols which shows any
assurance from Matthews. DennisOn sherman which
would have satisfied any business mani II showed as
saranee your part. Al should DO very sorry 70
lose the high opinion have Of my shrevdDess but
was satisfied with the assurances We had from others
We had perfect understanding with Sherman Foster
and Matthews and thai understanding reduced to
writing.
General Butler preaching out his handl-Thafs It.
That's JUST what want Where IL the papeFi A.-You
wiz have 20 ask Mr. sherman aud Mr.. Matthews for It.
They hayeit We gave them copies Of Cue telegram to
Governor Nichols and the reply, containing state