The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-05-17
PEACE OR WAR /?
Views Of Ambassadors and States
men in St. Petersburg.
GERMANY AND ITALY NEUTRAL.
Lefo, Nigra, LaDgnau and Jomini
Believe in the Congress.
AUSTRIA AS A SPHINX.
Baron Hamburger-"If War Is Nee
essary Russia Will Fight"
ENGLAND'S POSITION.
Lord Loflus-"Will Remain What She Is,
tho PrepOnderating Nation"
ROUMANIA BELLICOSE.
AUSTRIA AS A SPHINX.
Baron Hamburger IF War Is Nee
essary Russia Will Fight"
ENGLAND'S POSITION.
Lord LOftus-"Will Remain What She Is,
tho Preponderating Nation"
ROUMANIA BELL1COSE.

ST.. PETERSBURG, April %, 1878
I have undertaken, through the agency OF friend,
10 feel the diplomatic pulse with regard TO tho din
culties between England, Russia. and tho other
Powers Interested In tho settlement Of the Eastern
question. 1t is not easy, even when all is peaceful
aud pleasant In political circles for tho ordinary
newspaper correspondent accurate informa-
ton, and In times like these. when Europe seems to
DO resting upon q volcano diplomats arc doubly
iui In conccaiing their AFFAIRS therefore utilized
Tho services Of gentleman whose motives would not
be suspected, he has reported the following
vorsations, which, held conGance, may DO taken as
faithful reflex Of tho views and thoughts o; all those
engaged in the negotiations which to decide
The question OF peace or war.
BARON JoMIyI, OF RUSSIA.
Baron Jomin, OF the Russian Chnncolieric. is tho
night arm oil Prince GortschakoG. Hc lends this arm
each day to his august master. who promenadcs at
about three O'Clock in the afternoon. An observer
ON passing these TWO mon, on whom moro than any
others hang tho dcstnies OF Europe at the present
time, cannot tail to DO struck with the contrast IN
their physiognomies; the Baron-thc youngest-has
The profound air Of an old man. whilo the Prince has
tno eye OF youth. Tho Baron seems 10 invite the
winter Of age upon his head TO look old Is said to DO
hts object He certainly never does anything TO
repeI II 'When I am sixty years old" he seems
TO say, 81 shall succeed PrAce GortschaKon." This
friend OF the Chancellor vcs tho Pont do Police,
on tho Moks Canal, in a residence owned by tho
Grown. His apartment is situated tho first floor.
which is reached By stone staircase Tho furniture
IL worry simple He goes to the Chancelerie daily At
about eleven O'Clock A. NJ. and returns to his
rooms a. four p. II. II Ia then he writes the
articles entitled "Home News" which appear every
day IN tho Journal de st. I'etersbonrg Tho Baron,
who IL something OF Journalist himself, neverthe-
Jess drcads journalists he does tho lyphus. Accus
toned 10 hear himself talk-lke Prince Gort-
scbakon-he fears that the newspaper men would not
fully appreciate certain ideas which he voluntarily
vances and moreover that they would not be written
10 suit everybodys taste hence he writes them him.
.scir To our friend no spoke with considerable 70.
serve during their conversation as follows;-
RUSSIA WEAK AND UNDECIDED.
yxasxD--Baron, what Is your hope for Coasressa
JonSI Il do not despair Of seeing It meet; We have
made enough sacrifices for IT,
FRIEyD-What do you mean by sacriAcesp
JoxIS-I count as sacrifices the acts OF o nation
that consents to play tho conquered when IL is the
conqueror, and when II Is not obliged to such
course by It's faults Since the fall OF Pevna
our "drestors" have only done this. Tho Treaty OF
psan stefano 10 blunder; not 10 have entered Con.
stantinoplc Is another
PRIEsD-in your opinion, then, It would have been
better not have mado tho San stefano treaty and
TO have gone into Constantinoplo with the army2
JoxSI-Appnrently It is so. II then thcy had
called a Congress could have said, '.You see tho
whole situations what has been for tho general
Interest and for the benefit OF each.n This would
have been a much better position for us.
FnIESD-How will tho trouble cnds Will there DO
peace or WARP
JomSI-I am placed so that l con know all have
oil the negotiations to attend TO. and yet honestly
cannot pronounce which. lose my judgment in the
midst OF all tho hesations OF one, tho demands OF
another and the FOLLY Of third This Is most posi-.
lively, all know.
FRIExD-Au reroir
JoMISI-I particularly request that you viii speak
70 one hero Of all have allowed myself to say to
you.
LORD LOTUS. ENGLISH MINISTER.
Lord Lotus, the British Ambassador, Is about 1fy-
six years OF age, corpuien with a smooth face, PALE
gray eyes and gray hair. Ho lives tho Quai Gazs-
Tine, the ground which the troops maponuvrc,
30 That no has not far TO 20 In order TO himself
that tho Russian TROOPS well drilled Al the entrance
OF tho embassy you the British coat OF arms: In
fact. this seal Is substitute for works OF arr OF
which ono secs nothing but tho stntue Of a dead
female figure. at tho feet OF which ia an
oratory. This marble Is In an apartment
uScd oy Lazy LOTUS. AnOtner daughter
OF Ny Lord married Colonel wellesley, tho
military attachc, who was rudely received by tho
Grand Duke Nicholas at PlocJeslic. This sccnc was
removed othor day, excepting that tho person
having tho nonor Of snubblng the ttlo scion OF tho
Wellington family mono other than Princo
Gortscnakon. As your readers were duly apprised.
Colonel Wellesley recently returned TO ST. Petersburg
for the purpose OF removing his personal effects. Ito
thought hts duty TO call Mt the ChanccIleric and
state that Tho bcllicose language attributed 10 him
since his return was erroneous; that no had not
been guilty OF any such discourtesy. Prioco
Gortschakon replied 10 him ihus:-"I don't
know n ago causes TO losc my
faculties, but II seems TO tho reports that / re.
eevcd IRON London concerning you wore tho most
crying during tho whole war" Colonel Wellesley
who apparently thick skinned as m armor plated
vessel Of tho Drst cas related this scene to our
diplomatic friend with considerable glcc, which also
had the effect OF putting Lord Lotus good humor
Inducing him TO talk somewhat freely the following
snows:-
BRITAIN HOLDS THE KEY.
FRiEsp--England Is rcproachcd for saying what she
docs want and for remaining silent VIA, she
really desires. Can you not give some idea as to
her real Intentional
Loyrus--wo have tho prcponderance In the entire
world and wish TO maintain ~.
fRiEND-lt ~ an cxgency Wnfcn might DO formu-
lated In less general terms. Why do you not soy
point by point just what you want?
Lovrus-our silence speaks clearly enough. We
do not want tho Treaty OF san stofano.
FRKxp-why do you not say SO categoricallyS
lorrus--Iio must DO dull, indeed, who does not
understand this.
FmiExp--Is not all this for tho purpose OF gaining
timcS
Iorrus-Timc will never DO wanting. supposipg
tba, war wero declared now, could We not remain for
months without even firing shotS Who. therefore,
can compel us to commence operations one day moro
than spothcrY You Will agree With mo that ono
viii dream OF making descent upon England
FRfsxD-But army might reach IndIaf
LorrUs-it would require good deal Of timc" for
that. Besides, an expcsilonary corps, whatever
rs strength, would encounter oifoultes Of all kinds