Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-02-01
WAR OF WORDS.
Bitter Debate Over the Supplementary
vote---Riotous Demonstration In the
Street--Roumanian District of Russia
Contradictory Reports rs to Austria
Ministerial Crisis In Greece-.Where-
abOuts of the Russian Army.


Ministerial Crisis In Greece--Where-
abouts of the Russian Army.
BRITAIN's DILEMMA.
LONDON, Jan. 31.-The House of Com
mons was very crowded in all parts this af-
ternoon by persons anxious to listen to the
debate on the governments motion for q
supplementary vote. Many peers and for
eign representatives were present Sir Stat
ford Northcote, chancellor of the exchequer,
replyina to question said: The govern
ment will not object TO furnish the House
the correspondence respecting the Glad
stone egropontis incident. Under Foreign
Secretary Bourke in reply to question, said
he had heard to-day that the telegraph line
between Constantinople and Galliopolis was
cut. Sir Stafford Northcote, in response to
the inquiry of Mr.. Chaplin, said that at the
latest advices no armistice had been signed.
The Russians are still advancing southwark,
but he was ignorant as to what point they
have reached. AS to whether, in view Of the
continued Russian advance, England still
adheres to her conditions in Lord Derby's
May dispatch, he said he could only say that
the government docs entirely adhere to those
conditions.
Mr. Foster, amid the cheers of the opposi-
ton moved his amendment to the vote of
credit, declaring that the house sees no reas-
on for adding to the peoples burden by
voting additional supplies.
Mr.. Foster said he saw nothing in the
peace conditions endangering British inter-
ests. He was convinced Of the absolute
necessity of his amendment, The vote de-
manded by the government was unprece-
dented. If it was the duty of the house to
vote money when wanted, it was the duty of
the government to say what it was wanted
for. The only information that the house
had was that the government intended
to flourish a vote in the face
of the forthcoming Congress on the Eastern
question. The Interpretation put on the
motion was that the government thought
the peace conditions unsatisfactory. He
could find nothing in them calling for a
suspicious attitude on the part of Great
Britain. If Russia desired to take advall-
tage of her victories to alter the existing
treaties concerning the Dardanelles, that
wish was only natural, but Prince Gortscha-
koff said he regarded this as matter not to
be settled by Russia.
Forster then arraigned The recent foreign
policy Of the government and declared that
they were not entitled to this vote as vote
of our confidence, and did not need it for
any interest of the country Forster spoke
an hour and half.
Cross, Secretary of State for the Home de-
partment, followed Forster.
In the House of Lords, Lord Derby, in re-
ply to question, said he had no information
concerning the armistice. He had just seen
Count Schauvalotf, Russian ambassador, and
he had none. He, Lord Derby, saw conf
dental letter from Prince Gortschakof
to Count Schouvaleff saying he was at loss
to explain the delay. Certainly Turkey was
equally unaware of the cause. Lord Derby
supposed that an explanation Of this per-
picking situation would soon be forthcoming.
In reply to question whether the occupa-
ton of Constantinople by Russia alone, OF
in conjunction with other powers had been
put forward as one of the conditions of
peace. Lord Derby answered unhesitating
ly in the negative. He said no proposition
had been made by Russia. that diplomatic
sanction should be given to the occupation
of Constantinople, and no proposal had
been made for joint occupation.
Cross said that Forster's speech was in
tended to create the feeling that there was q
war party in the government which desired
credit in order to apply it to waslike pur-
poses. This imputation he distinctly de-
MED. He also declined to admit that the
vote was intended as general vote of conf
dence. All the government asked was that
money should be granted which might be
necessary, and that it be given in full conf
dence that it would be used if absolutely
necessary. The government had never
e u H.
dispatch of the 9th of May. He character
lied the speeches against the government
outside of the House as lying speeches.
commented on the delay in making known
advance of the Russian forces, and pointed
out that the delay was not caused by the
Turks, but by the Russians. He asked
where was the strategic, treason for the Rus
sian advance on Constantinople, when the
basis of a peace was already accepted by
Turkey. He tainted the opposition amid a
storm of derisive shouts of sswithdraw,''
of being friends of the Russians, and main
tanned that seeing the Russians still advancing
the government was bound to persevere in
the vote. The government must exercise
the right to be heard in the final settlement,
and if it be heard at all it must be backed
by the estimate now submitted. The GOV
ernment's only only object was substantial
and lasting peace. He had not believed
until he saw it that this amendment would
be put, and he had no doubt it would be de-
feated by an overwhelming majority.
The House was very lively during both
Forster's and Cross's speeches, and there
were cheers and counter cheers from either
side of the house. Sir Wilfred Lawson op
posed the vote, and contended that the prop
or course of the government was to 20 to the
country and get the opinion Of their constit-
uents.
Mr.. Bright lamented Sir Stafford North
cote's tone in giving notice of the supple
mentary vote. He had spoken as though the
freedom of the Christian provinces of Turkey
was opposed to the interests of England.
Bright hoped six million pounds would not
be used to restrict that freedom. He thought
the terms of peace should not alarm the people
or feed our discreditable jealousy of Russia or
justify the government in entering q con-
ference with an attitude of menace. If the
government adhered to the old policy of
cherishing animosity against Russia, they
would bequeath legacy of war to posterity.
whereas they might bequeath legacy of
growing, lasting friendship with one of the
greatest empires.
The debate adjourned until tomorrow.
In the House of Lords this evening dur
ing the general debate which arose on the
question as to whether the government
would take any steps to secure the protec-
ton of the Mussulman population of Eu.
ropean Turkey, Lord Derby said he was not
one of those who attached great importance
to Armenia as involving British interests
but he doubted the prudence of holding Ian.
guage in this House which must be an en-