The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-08-04

tell the truth.
Mr.. Carsey-It does In It's business news. We have
interest OF or 10 per pay on capital while
We know that We only produce OF per cent. the
consequence rs that The interest eats up the cap'a'
and in every ten years have crisis.
q Well, wo have had the innation then We had the
panic TOO A. All right, but let US have initiation
and prosperity Tor another Ten years, and then
panic. Otherwise We shall have panic anyway ana
We might as well live and during those ten
years. Instead OF starry ng and having The panic too
Mr.. Rice and Mr. carsey now had quite an sa'eI p
msnaa,n,nS Ina. seI,t,ous values ala not improve
real prosperity, while Mr.. Carsey. with much ngenu-
ny, maintained that Inc greater demand LOT lhese
O. Are yoa IN favor Of having government take
care OF workiusnen A. Well we nase In n. samo
ia government system; believe That the govern
ment can run our railroaas better thsn ON
thing Tor We snail have 10 Lake hold OF me rail-
roads anyway Tor our own protection or the 'ahoef
bits will control the government
SOMETHING MUST BIZ DONE
Q. DO you also :nlnk .nat machinery IS cause Oh
the distress? A. Well, for oy or present sys
TEN we work man and let ton others starve AID
do nothing. Now. planter in tho South would nave
been thought very foolish II oIt OF his 100 slaves nc
should worked leu and let tne Ninety others run
round In woods and do nothing. Now ask you,
peutieme NOW that brought race 10 lace oy
the riots OF last ysur-to something tor US immc
diateiy and 10 give us work and food II you want 20
avoid u co nfiict between classes would De roaay 10
take up arms tomorrow overthrow this ~ stem OF
government tnerc was no way oil reaching INC evn
can tcni il out in that way. The Texas and PacInc
the Pubic Improvements BUS eau os passed next
WINTER ana nope Congress VIII pass them 10 aVoa
conflict ,.,.
With this appeal Mr.. Carsey withdrew amid slight
applause oy his comrades
A TEACHERS VIEWS =,
Mr. Osborne Ward, VINO SAID hc WAS teacher In
Brooklyn-a machinst formerly, he SAID anti tney
did want him any iongsr-was the next spokes,.
OF the socialistic labor movement ne annouuoo
the decIded opposition OF ms party to Inc gresnor No.,
and initiation theories promulgated by Ar Carse!, ou.
| agreed with M in regard TO the system OF great
public improvements TO be carried on ny the govern
ment He denied that working people were oet'ef on
now than they were ly years ago; that they mad any
more shoes, or any more cioihing or any more ioou
lie cooperation was bad and that co-opela.
ton like that OF the Shakers was the true remedy
| Tor the present distress Of the working classes
operat,v. association nowt A. We want TO form such
association OF the entire people OF the Unted STATES
| and 10 form the government as q nucleus Oh H.
| Mr. Rice-Suppose y gu 70 INTO the associa-
| ton and DON'T would you compel msT A. We'o
| MI Rice-But suppose / wouldn't be converteds
| A. Well, wcd mako you. (Laughter) o
- MT Thompson You would nave US all alike A.
o. pressed alikeg A. Or, no; there would be even
more variety than there is now Mau sd;s.n. Mr.
Ricej-Would you let my friend here wear such good
clothes as he docs while = tLausn'er) A. on'
| " ell we'd let him dress rs he pleases
| A TRP TO NEWPORT .
Mr. Rice-Suppose wanted TO lake trip to New
Mr. ward-You could take It,
mr. Rlcs-whsre would The money come froms
Mr. wara-The cooperative society would dstray
| that (Laugnter) 40
| M
| mako them pay taxes. tLaughterl
q wnal Kind Of religion would you havef A. Our
Com%gnstic Cnr,:t,aniy, Mausn,c M o,bsr
O. How would you pay the workers. A. With our
There was a great deal more Of this, and then Mr..
M.sas1 took 70. stand wn;S he sns
distinctly, he replied, amid laughter, ''on, am
'A.' SOME RADICAL SCHEMES
| Mr. Maddox read long paper advocating puotc
IN eus, the colon izing Of various OooIes OF
issas Of unIimltsd money tor Improvements
500 COO 900 per year 900 ooOO 600 per year, he
saio # neoessary. He eisd the Uuiiding OF public
market in the Island Guernsey OF paper
| money or credit which money was destroyed alter
building was nnisned an instance Of what paper
1--WE want the $l6, Ooo 900 in this country he
nsy eeoss 70 U.S. 1:y belong 10 ;hs peop aes
| to build docks in New York the government should
issue that amount OF paper money 70 the CIV. o. New
| Meanwhile the docks would produce u revenue 10 the
CITY, ana people would be employed
| 1--WE are the people," he exclaimed vehemently
..We are the sovereigns We arc bigger than Con-
gress, although Congress now Ia bigger than the peo-
mir Rice-If you issued 81, 600 900 900 how soon
would you retire rs A. Well, say $500 900, 900 year
O. Well, would THIS money be worth par in other
counriesf A. IL would be worth 100 Or 200 per cont
strhs working people OF the United states, II prop
er,y treated Mr.. Maddox vociferaed IN tone which
would have made ring raitors of building weaker
than the Post Office, "woud not be the scavengers
|
Der and lumber the capitalist TO bund mis- fortune
upon" -
Mr. Rice asked II the government was 10 provide all
the labor ne people with work why not have an En-
peror apoleou instead Of republican form OF gov
ernmentf 49,
Mr. Maddox (contemptuously)-W Why, the United
States government is 10000 900 OF people, xhe Ma
| pocon was only one miserable cuss tLaughter.)
Mr. Boyd-Ars you not sIanderine tue work ingme
OF Uuea states whom you say That they aro only
W. Mauaox vsnemsntiy denied that no had SIAN
dered them. He had told the truth.
| MI. Boyd-Are you not aware oil the TACT that the
vortinrmea of tue United States are more int
clad and better tod than those oil any other
Mr. HaddoI-I don't know; l never have beon out
O. DOM YOU know It to be al acts A. (vehemently)-
know th,s that you wanted So 900 soldiers at Sl4
per month TO shoot anyoody, even themselves. you
could nave them IN New YORK. p.aughter) II you
can get any people down lower than that, I'D like TO
Know IT, You addressing the commltice) are my
servapts-ars The peoples servants The great MIS-
take we made vas to set you up as our superiors
MI hompsou-rhen It's different class OF men
Mr. Maddox I'm a laundering voice,-we want the
consult ution changed that you, our servants shall
MOI Dc aos ,s ~ al laws BACK 10 he people for
lion. belong to Maine, aud know that men have
gone poor TO Congress anu came oo' rich HOW uia
they do They couldn't save II out OF heir salaries.
CHARGES vF ISLANDER.
Mr. Rice laughed heartily, Dut Mr. THOMPSON said
indignantly, lyon are sianderng the servants OF ihs
people In Congress as badly you were before Sian
ceriug he workinamen oi the United ssatss."
Mr. Maddox read another long st1temcnt and was
| then allowed 30 WITHDRAW. As stepped asae Mr.
| Thompson asked him, 'Mr. Maddox, what business
| are you my"
|
| Mr. Thompson--What business are you IN now
| Mr. Misunderstanding 10 make any livelihood
| cot o.
/ THE CONGRESS HUMANITY.
Mr. Maddox was followed by Mrs. Myra Hall, who,
IN n weak but determined voice, announced that sue
was not incrc represent any suge natiop eut tue
lne ln tfregx pf a
| MI Thom pson ldrilj You mean that you carry
| on your opera IONS all over tHo world.
| Mrs Hail (cmpnalicshy)-Yes, ssr also am re.
nrcssni.llys of twonty millions OF sIavos uelongi
| TINS country wuo have never yet been admitted TO
| the elective franchise.
| hear your statement.
Mrs. Hall-rhere law IN creation absolute In It's
| operation. This law Is progress. and therefor all
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