The Jackson standard. [volume] (Jackson C.H., Ohio) 1847-1888, 1878-08-01

Gen. Garfield was examined before the
Potter committee last week. We take
the following from the report of his tes-
timony:
Gen Butler asl<ed-Have you any
doubts that if the State was carried for
Hayes it was also carried for Packard Z
A. | think Packard was honestly elected,
but the final outcome was for Nichols.
Gen. Butler-I thought the Legislature |
declared for Packard and put him in as
Governor until the struggle which put
him out A. l do not so understand 1t.
c. Did the Returning Board make a
new set of returns2 A. In the case OF
the Presidential Electors, the determine
ton of the Returning Board is final,
while, as to the Governor, the Legislature
can reverse the finding.
O. But did you not understand that
the Legislature did make declaration
| that Packard was elected Governor. and
inaugurated him, and that he remained
Governor until he was unseated by an
other power, and this same Legislature
elected Kellogg Senator, and the United
States Senate recognized him as legally
elected A But l do not understand
the party opposed to PACKARD loSC the
power to contest.
O After a man has been declared elec-
ted by the Returning Board, and been
inaugurated as Governor, do you under
stand that the Legislature can turn him
out? Do you understand that can be
done? A. That depends upon the stat
ute. | know that it can be done in case
of contest.
Q. Do YOU know of such contest in
that Legislature A. l am not partlcu-
larly familiar with the proceedings.
@. Did not the Legislature and GOV
Packard main tain themselves for three
months A They maintained about
eight acres Eight acres of Louisiana.
0. am asking for time, and you give
me acres? A. think about three months.
@. Did they not maintain themselves
till the President sent body of men
down there to break them up? A. l
think not.
Q. Did they not maintain themselves
until the McVeagh Commission was sent
down? A. They were maintained by
troops.
@. Do you know any act of the troops,
or of an order to maintain the Leglsla-
ture ?
Hiscock objected to the question. All
this, he said, is current history. 1t Is as
notoriously known to one gentleman as
, another; besides, such examination does
not come within the letter of the author
ity under which the committee is acting.
, Gen. Butler-Eyery time l get this
!, matter to point my brother on the lett
objects He was patient, however, to day.
while Secretary Sherman was making
, irrelevant remarks.
! Hiscock-All can say is this 1t the
gentleman considered the remarks I'M
proper, he could have objected to them.
Chairman Potter-I will leave the de-
cison of this question to my colleague
(Springer), as all other members OF tue
committee have expressed their views on
the subject.
Mr.. Springer-Gen. Butler has indicat-
+ ed his line of investigation, and pretaced
a case by stating he proposed to show a
y bargain by which Hayes was to be count
/ ed in as President, and he IN turn for
t such service was to overthrow Packard as
!. Governor, and recognize Nichols. The
8 question now put to witness relates tc
u the overthrow of the Packard govern
J. ment by Withdrawing the troops, and
Q leaving Packard to his fate. The ques
ton, therefore, is pertinent as part OF the
general conspiracy proposed to be proven
Besides, this question was adjudicated al
a former session of the committee, and Il
would be manifestly uni to reverse 1T
For this reason he would vote to ALLOW
g the question to be asked.
e Chairman Potter-1 have not been II
favor of this line Of inquiry. For mysel
l must say that 1 think the people o
Louisiana acting with Nichols were jus
= tilted, after the actions of the Returning
Board, in making the best arrangement
they could to secure the State govern
ment, but, however that may be, ate
the length to which that branch of inqul
nv has been carried do not know tina
e I ought now to stop it, if have the pow
j. er; but as the committee is divided,
l. have not the power, and therefore th'
question may be answered.
> Gen. Butler-I recognize the rights o
l. Nichols to make bargain on his place
r as much as Sir Henry Howe had to brlb'
Arnold but it is Arnold l am after.
Mr. Hiscock-I must object to such in
Il situations in the line of charges withou
s evidence to support them
g The question was then asked, namely
Do YOU know of any act Of the troops, o
ID any order to the troops to maintain thu
t. Packard government? A. | have M
O knowledge, except current history oper
" to US all.
) @. What current history? A. | under
Z stood that there was a contest betwee1
the Nichols and Packard people, ant
troops were called out to prevent a con
y fict between the partisans of the respect
It i've governments, and to prevent blood
a. shed, and to preserve the status quo
@. You said you believed Packard t.
9 have been honestly elected. Do yo'
Q know of any better purpose to which thu
d troops should have been applied than il
z upholding him? A. believe Packard
:, was honestly and lawfully elected, but
- never understood that the Legislature
ot had declared for Packard in final form
is beyond the right of contest do no
IF understand that Packard had passed be
;. yond the point where there was no Lawful
=. appeal.
1t O. There was to be lawful appeal be
h fore the State Supreme Court. The Les
islature, composed of majority of men
bers declared to be elected by tn
,e Returning Board, assembled on the da
d fixed by law, counted the votes. an
declared by the same authority tina
. returned the Hayes Electors that Pack
- ard was elected Governor; and after be
s. ing inaugurated he sent in his message
le and there was the end. If Legislator
ID has right to turn out a Governor. d
-, you know of any reason why Congress
has not the right to turn out President
ID A. The jurisdiction is different; one
1t State, and the other is national.
It. Mr.. Butler-I propose to find the miss
70 ing link in a chain of conspiracy.
It. They had big time at Newark las
ID week. The American says:
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