The New York herald., 1878-08-08
KEARNEY AND SCHWAB.

THE COMMUNISTS VIEWS ON THE CALIFORNIAN
AGITAToR-D DIFFERENCE BETWEEN coMMuN-
ISM AND OTHER THEORIES OF RRFoRM.
In reply, to . question TO what immediate cause
brought ab0ut The invitation 10 Kearnsy discuss
platforms wish him In brooklyn, Mr. Justus H.
schwab, the we'll ksown socialis,ic agitator, said
that It was because the committee Of that
city have the Saturday nights meeting In
charge. Tuesday night last the committee
agreed to have Kearney address tnsm, II no would
consent to so, and Mr. schwab stated that he had
been authorized 10 invite h,m for next Sunday. HIS
telegram Kearncy had been scnt about O'Clock
on Tuesday night. and Mr.. schwab understood TO
say that the California agtators reply had
to tho press
NO YEAR OF TROUBLE
To the suggestion that public debate between
Kearney and tho socialists might breed disturbances
Mr.. Schwab said that his party did look for any
misunderstanding OF nature that would result in
mischief He did not believe that ,hero would any
trouble tho meeting, but thought row the bal.
lot tox quite probable, and said that there tho nshng
would be done. He thought Kearney's speeches In
California moro appro pirate 10 that part OF tho Unioa
than to this Mr. Kearney, he opinod, has not got
tho hang OF things here yet. Over these parts,
among 80 many ''isms." he docs not know Just
where bis bearings are, but he win
learn. Tho speaker did not think that communistic
principles differ In different localities, but the ways
OF the people tho Pacific slope differ greatly
from those the Atlantic States. He thought Kear-
nsy an energetic man, courageous and honest
fellow; ho believed that the they would arrest
Ksarnsy the bigger he would become; tho police In
San Francisco had made him an agitator; thero
certain men, he contcndod, who became strong as
the battle progressed. schwab thought that tho
Brooklyn meeting would pass decided resolutions,
but they wero not yet drawn mp.
cRrrcIsING LABOR coMMrrryB
Referring 10 the Congressional Committee on tho
labor question, now sitting In this city, Mr. Schwab
wns OF opinion that whom real workingman made
any important statement before 1t respecting the
bcttcrng OF the condition OF the laborng classes the
members, with their superior knowledge OF
logic, would try aud corner him, acd. falling
In tins, they rotrcuted TO barricads thou-
selves behind the constitution. He acknowI.
edged that this might be good enough
place to hide, but the Congressman did not to
that the constitution was made for things they
existed 100 yoars ago. when II nttcd the tines now,
no asserted IL docs not suit Hc claimed that does
not afford relief for general grievances. Then, IL
seemed as n the Congressman would make tho govern
ment something outside Of and apart from the people
Schwab said tnat When man ruesdny last stated
before the committee that they did not take the ni
tativc the people would 10 violence Mr. Hewitt
stcrny replied, 'l IL not In that way the American
people seek redress for rcsl wrongs" but must be
remembered, urged Schwab that this country had It's
birth IN revolution He intlmatod that W might bc
born again by the same means.
TurntRg the convcrsnton to tho subject OF the dif-
ference between the platforms OF tho nationals aud
tho Communists, Mr. sehwab ciassod the principal
points nj issue undcr several heads:-
First Tho nationals, Mr.. Kcarnev included, do not
advocate tho eight hour labor law; IL Is not plank
In the reformers' platform.
Stcond-ihe Communists advocate tho establish
mcnt OF Sc rotaryship OF Labor, to be part OF tho
national government. Neither thc grrcnback party
any other political reiormers have taken this
matter up.
TAird-Thc prohibition OF children 10 labor Is rccog-
nzcd by the Communists only and by no other party
now advocating different doctrines OF reform.
Fourth mo greenbsckers do not want 10 Interfere
with capitalists, whereas the Communists propose
dong away with ali individual ownership In property
and vestiug IL in'thc community.
"BJt," qucrried the writer do you not think that
such n course the taEing OF proprfetorship from
tho individual would kill enterprise Tor the reason
that man Will work well when he knows TINT u
portion OF mis- earnin will not be hts ~
'rhc coming revolution Will settle I'll that, replied
the socialist 'lt VIII DO away with individual cap
itaists and Introduce the corporate state OF holding
property"
"would not the plan you propose work injuriously
TO individuals unless all men were equally ndustri
Gus ana able to work ~ was now asxca.
"No, II would not Every body would havo n CON-
mon interest IN the State, and the same good pur
pose TO serve In seeing IL prosper"
NO DIVISION or PROPERTY
'Stll, II must bc confessed that division OF prop
orty-r
''Siop thsre," interrupted Mr. schwsb "Wbo ever
benrd socialist mention such ABSURD idea ns Tho
redistribution or division OF properly IN tho CON-
munity? Tho COMMUNISTS havc no IDEA OF this"
~ this point tho conversation was interrupted,
and upon being resumed Nj. scnwob was asked how