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would call particular attention. 10 tA'lr
extensive and varied Stock IL
WINES AND LIQUoRS-rIM:
COOKING WINES Uapor,cG} a,'r"m :!.'o 10; =
per gallon:
CALIFORNIA WINES (CiarrtJ =: 81 r.r&'i""'
TOKAY, ANGELICA, aud PORT at 49, i"r."'-
Ion:
CALIFORNIA BRANDY, :; I|r gallon;
Observation-Disclosures. IGve rqu"i' a'r' ''''''''
Observation-Disclosures E.'T" osF All" i"-t'
rial flor which We are sole agents.;
r,HIE slIERr!ES tour own GnpUv;A'i'".. 'f"'"
- 10 81 pc. gallon;
| WINES from private cellars;
| MADEIRA WINE. imported IN lSl2' one H""'''
,nltwcn,y-f five dollars per GcIniy"u"" OF "a 49,
| lars per bottle;
| SCOTCH WnISkEY, distilled IN !H"t'
| PEACH BRANDY. distilled In 1871;
FRENCH BRANDY, vintage l>ii and 80
HAVANA CIGARS. w. -
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A BEAUTIFUL ASSORTMENT OF DRESSING.
CASES.
ANIMALS FOE 1879

NNNNNIS FOX 1878.
GhATTERB0N, NURSERY. WIDE AWAKE
LITTLE FOLKS, and al! the other anmuais AT low
est prices.
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The largest and finest stock OF CIGAR-CA>ES in
the city: 20
HYMN.BOOkS OF all denominations, In every ,;y,.
of binding: ~
PRAiER-BOOKS and IlYMNALS:
Al the NEW and ST .NDARD GIF'r-RODKS.
~ large assortment of sCRAP-BDOk PiCTIEES
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Their assortme nj surpasses amy previous attempt
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NARISTMAS! CHRISTMAS! 4a

GARDOZO, FOURQUREAN " co.
have just received Il great many
USEFUL AND FANCY ARTICLES
suitable for
CHRISTMAS GIFTS,
such as
HANDSOME RUssIA-LEATHER FANS.
LADIES aid GENTLEMEN'S SCARFS and
NECK-TIES in great variety;
A splendid line of SILK IIANDKERCliIEFS;
ELEGANT LACE BARBES;
CoLoRED and EMBROIDERED HANDKER-
CHIEFS, new and beautiful In design;
Another lot of ELEGANT EVENING SILKS, in
Antique and Br0cade-very choice;
Besides 4 grea; many goods in every department
marked down VERY Low.
de 90 CARD0ZO. FUURQUEEAN & co.
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~- CHRISTMAS GOODS.

me- CHRISTMAS GOODS.
HOLIDAY DAYS.
CHEAP GOODS
AT
THALHIMER BROTHERS,
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The place 20 buy your CHRISTMAS PRESENTS
Is ELLiSON & YANtEY"..
liz Main stree.
(thrcc doors above Dispatch ot'Irel.
, 1878-06-29
Snohomish Items.

The Northern Star comes to MS
once more, With tho following bud
get of news:
Several parties started from Sno-
homish City this week, en- route for
the Skikomish mines.
There is some talk of establishing
a post Office at Mr.. Lucius Days.
place, on the new mail route be-
tween this place and Fall City.
The youngest son of Mr.: Fred
Foss, residing on Pill Chuck, had
the thumb of his right hand taken
off while splitting wood. one day
last week.
Col. Morse, the intrepid explorer.
has abandoned his open boat, and
now takes to the unexplored wilder
ness in true tramp fashion. Re-
turning, ever and anon, he Grams
his readers chock full with dsscrip-
tions of the wonders he has seen and
the lands discovered during his alb
sence. After his discovery of Muck
ilteo he showed his explorations
southwark to a country which he
named Puyallup. Here, to his as
tonishment, he found race of peo-
pie closely resembling the Caucasian
engaged in the cultivation OF hops,
hoop. poles and onions.
, 1878-06-29
LOCAL NEWS.

From the DIiiy Of Tuesday.
The schooner w. l.. Bebee
arrived in Port BIakely last
night.
BoRN. In this city. on the 23d
inst, to the wife Of Samuel Frauen-
thai, Esq, = daughter.
THERE arrived on the steam
ship Dakota, this morning, sew
eral passengers who return
after an. absence Of several years
to Seattle. Among the number
is G. P. Stone, who once filled
the honorable position of Mayor
of this city.
AssAULr.-Mr. Hugh Quinn
was arrested this morning,
charged with having committed
an assault ON Mr.. Welch, and
was fined 81 and costs by Justice
Snyder. The assault consisted
of shaking his fist in rude,
angry, and threatening manner
toward the aforesaid Welch and
inviting him out on the side
walk to have it out, a Ia Jim
Mace 4 Co.
CAssIAR.-The news from Cas-
star is extremely meagre. At
date of latest advices Dease
Lake was open. The new steam
boat plying thereon had made a
trip and had given general salts
faction. Canoes were freight
ing on the Stickeen from Wran-
gel to Glenora Landing at g
cents per pound and had taken
up most of the provisions, &c,
that had been deposited on the
banks of the river. There were
very few miners remaining at
Wrangel, but it is estimated
that more Cinnamon have gon
up to the mines this season than
in any previous year. Nothing
definite IS known as to the ex-
tent Of the recently discovered
creek, but rich ground has ~
doubtedly been struck.-VlctoA
COlOnist.
, 1878-06-29
Speaking Of the results Of the

Speaking Of the results Of the
Potter investigation, and the
completely of Sherman and Mat
thews with the frauds .ommit-
ted in Louisiana, the New York
Herald says that when men high
in place and power'are found to
stoop to dirty intrigues and con-
sort with common scoundrels,
forgers and perjurers, such as
some Of the Louisiana Republi-
cans are proved to be, they bring
disgrace not merely on them
selves, but on the country. The
President is fully exonerated in
the premises by the Herald, yet
it truthfally says that he ought
to know that the persistent and
abundant favor he has shown to
men who were conspicuous in
the doubtful political transac-
tiens of 1876 has lowered him in
the general esteem and robbed
HIM of the respect and confidence
Of tho host men in the country.
, 1878-06-29
A FACILITATING Heart.

Very often persons have q palpi-
tating heart after eating, or the food
sours on the stomach. The sides
tremble. there is difficulty in breath
ing, dizziness. nervousness, bad
breath, irritable temper, loss OF
strength. if any Of these symptoms
exist you may conclude yon are
dyspeptic, or, that your liver is out
Of order. The gastric juice OF the
stomach for the purpose OF dissolv-
ing the food has become too weak,
consequently the food fermeats CIV
ing rise to the distressing symptoms
above mentioned. We first make
tho gastric juice strong enough to
take hole Of the food and dissolve it
a. soon as it reaches the stomach.
WHITE's PRAIRIE FLOWER taken be-
fore or soon after eating. before for
mentation commences, cures all such
eases. Ask your druggists for it.
Price, 25cts a1d 75cts.
mo9 I'm div
, 1878-06-29
Plain Talk.

In the House Of Representa-
tlves, OF the 10th inst, a heated
debate took place on the appro-
priation for public buildings.
Mr.. Foster, of Ohio, said that
this was the most appropriate
time for completing the public
buildings, on the ground of econ
omy in the saving of rent, of
economy in taking advantage OF
the cheapness of materials and
labor, and on the ground of Civ
;ug employment to the unem-
; Dyed laberers Of the country.
Mr.. Durham, Of Kentucky, pro-
te led against the doctrine that
it was the duty of the Govern
mcnt to take care of all the pau.
pers in the United States. He
did not mean by that men who
were struggling for a living, be-
cause everybody who struggled
faithfully could always make a
living. The trouble in the coun-
try was that people congregated
around the cities who ought to
be at work in the country. They
came around the cities looking
for Government employment,
when they ought to be out on
the Western prairies tllling the
soil and making a living for the
purpose of supporting their
wives and educating their chill
dren. Mr.. Butler, OF Massachu-
setts, said that the gentleman
from Kentucky had made an
oversight in saying that the peo-
pie should go upon farms in the
West. The trouble was that
they had no money to go west,
and if they attempted to walk
they were put in Jail as tramps.
He denied that he was advocat
ing anything for paupers. made
50 BY their own idleness. Ev-
cry dollar that would be paid
them was to be earned by them
, 1878-06-29

Among the curious things ad-
ded to the American section at
the Paris Exhibition is superb
jewel casket from the private
collection of Mrs. Sunderland,
of San Francisco. 1t is made
entirely Of gold and gold-bcar-
ing quartz from the Pacific coast
mines.
, 1878-06-29

in the sweat of their brow, and
If they were paupers it was be-
cause they had been made so by
a damnable financial system. He
spoke Independent of party. The
legislation of the country (fos-
tering the rich and crushing out
the poor) had brought about the
present condition Of affairs.
, 1878-06-29

International Silver Conference

Secretary Evarts has received
by cabl> notifications that the
Governments of France and It.
ally have decided to appoint
Commissioners to the Interna-
tional Nor etary Conference, to
be held in pursuance of the act
of Congress for remonetizing
silver. By that act the Presi-
dent was authorized to invite
the commercial nations Of tho
world to join in conference for
discussing the relations which
silver should hereafter bear to
gold in the COMA, . of the world.
The earlier responses to the in
vitation of the President were
not encouraging, coming from
nations Of no commercial i'm
portanee. But the accession of
France and Italy, the two lead
ing nations Of the Latin Union,
not only redeems the movement
from contempt, but renders it
respectable and imposing. The
European Powers which have
already consented to take part
in the Conference are France,
Italy, Russia. Hungary, Hol-
land, Switzerland and Greece.
Mexico and the South American
countries will probably JON; but
whether they do or not the Con-
ference will be strong enough to
command the attention OF the
world. The only great Powers
which will not be represented
are England and Germany. Ger
many has so recently discarded
silver that she cannot retreat,
and Great Britain had adopted
an exclusive gold standard when
all other nations useu both met
ais. If the Conference can agree
on a proper ratio between silver
and gold, founded on their pros
pective intrinsic value, there
need be no difficulty in main
tanning silver as part of the gen.
eral money of the world. The
United States alone cannot do
it, but it may be done by the CO.
operation Of the nations which
have not demonetized silver.
, 1878-06-29

The London Times, discussing
the present labor movements in
the United States, thinks that
the fate of Communism will be
similar to that of municipal cor
ruption in New York, the last
relic of which was represented
in the dead carcass OF Boss
Tweed. americans have re-
yarded it with Indifference so
long as it was aggressive only
in speech and disloyal only in
theory. They may even tole-
rate an experimental trial of it
SO long as it does not threaten
the existing Constitution. But
should il attempt to put its ex-
tremc theories into execution,
they will make short work of it.
They know from bitter exPer-
ience what rebellion is, and they
know, too, how to quell it.
There is no fear of their specu-
1ative toleration of extreme the
cries Of life and government be-
guiling them into Indifference to
q social revolt which, if it is
anything more than a mere an
archical impulse, is nothing less
than an attempt to destroy the
whole fabric Of society in order
to reconstruct it according to q
visionary and wholly untried
ideal. If. as we will not antici-
pate, the United States are des-
tined to go through social cri-
sis of this kind we shall doubt
less hear again, as We used to
hear fifteen years ago, a good
deal about the evil effects of
democratic institutions. If, how
ever, it is the weakness of insti-
tutions like those in America to
give a tolerant encouragement
to all sorts of experiments in So
clal and political organization, it
is their strength to be able to
survive them, to profit by their
success. and to be little the
worse for their failure. The
fabric Of American society is so
strong that it can sustain with
little or no injury shocks which
would be fatal to weaker and
more effetc constitutions. In the
United States freedom Of dis
cusslon is the safety waive thro
which great deal of superflu-
Gus political steam escapes.
, 1878-06-29

Rockwell, one of the notori-
GUS Mormon Danites, has died
in Salt Lake City. He was un-
der indictment for participation
in the murder of the Akin i'm
migrants in 1857. There is a
suspicion that he was foully
dealt with by some of his old
associates in crime who feared q
confession on his part.
, 1878-06-29

A Salt Lake husband asked
for a divorce because his wife
had not informed him before
their marriage that one of her
arms xas sadly SCARED.
, 1878-06-29

S. BAXTER & co.
IMPORTERS AND
Commission Merchants,
SOLE AGENTS for Western Washington fol
the California Farmers Mutuaal
FIRE INSURANCE ASSOCIATION
OFFER FoR'sAL TO THE TRADE ONLY.
TENNENT'S ALE. Pints and Quarts.
BASS ALE F." i"
GUINNESS PORTER Pints and OTIS.
HENNESSEY BRANDY in Octaves.
and l. 2 and star in case.
MARTELL BRANDY in Octaves. and
l.. and star in case.
OTARD DUPUY BRANDY in Octaves
and case.
CALIFORNIA GRAPE BRANDY in
Octave.
SCOTCH WHISKY in case and bulk.
IRISH " q" ..
CHAMPAGNE
Chas. Faro. in pints and quarts.
Landsberger's 8 California, Imperial
and Private Cuvee. in pts & qts.
SHERRY = Finest Old Golden, Old
Garvey and California in case and
bulk.
PORT - Imported and California in
case and bulk.
BOURBON WHISTLES - Hotaling'a q
genuins,J. H. Cutter in case and
bulk; White House. Universal, Mil
ler. etc. etc.
TOBACCO - Ping. Granulated and
Long Cut.
CIGARS-The largest Stock and Best
Assortment on Puget Sound.
q We are the only house in Wash
ington Territory shipping Furs direct
IN London. England. and are paying
tho highest cash prices. novl6u
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THE INDIAN CAMPAIGN:

The hostiles are raidihg through
Southern Idaho; apparently none the
worse for their excursion through East.
ern Oregon. Though, according to the
most reliable accounts, there are not
more than two hundred warriors, and
these are now divided into several
small bands, they have evaded the
troops, who outnumber them by at
least four to one.. and outgeneraled
Howard all through the campaign. The
A only serious blow dealt them since the
outbreak was by friendly Umatilla In.
dams in Northeastern Oregon, with
whom the hostiles were endeavoring to
form an alliance, and did not at the
time suspect of being their enemies.
BY order of General Howard, Egberts
battalion of, infantry has been march
ing all Summer at an average of nearly
thirty miles day. without encounter
ing hostile. and troops sent north on
= 3 +
the Idaho road, were. few days after
their arrival in the country infested
with hostiles, recalled and marched
ever 80 miles in So hours, to remain all
night on side track at,this station.
These troops were taken by rail to San
Francisco thence by steamer to the head
Of navigation on the Columbia. where
they arrived about the time one band
of the hostiles were back in the Malheur
country and another were attacking the
stages on the road from which they
!, we're recalled BY forced marches. As
(, a Indian fighter Howard is not q suo-
oess. Some of his battalion command
ers have had skirmishes with the hos
tales. but these occurred invariably when
Howard was some where, elses and the
troops were. acting independent of his
orders. When the Indians were adj
{, venoing north be was always in their
rear. and. strange and uaaccountable
az it seems, when they turned back
south Howard was still behind them,
They. are now back in their old bunting
grounds, where they will probably dis
nerse, and make it appear that they
nAve never been on the war path.
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A.correspondent Of the Globe

A'correspondent of the Globe speaks
OF the rough tone in, which Bismarck
addressed the Turkish representatives
at thu late Congress- when they pro-
tested against the occupation by Aus
tria OF Bosnia and herzegovina. do
you really suppose. said he, "that we
ara here to consider the interests of
Turkey? We are here for the interests
OF Earope. for. the peace of Europe.
What do you Turks want? You don't
want to retire to the other side of The
bespors? Very good; you shall not
retire. You'll be pitched into it if You
90 o. protesting.
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Tea Bsnnocks on their way m
AsIah<fT4 -, after the shooting of the
esags. iFer killed, four Cinnamon,
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IT requires but passing glance at
the Yonng ladies of the period to dis
tiuguish the freshness and clearness of
their complexion, as compared with
" hat they were before the Introduction
of Glenn's- Sulphur Soap and he
adoption Of the warm bath, with which
IT has become SO generally associated
IN the toilet in the better class of
society. Itnas become the favorite of
the bondoir. and will soon put a new
face on elegant society. Crittenton's,
No. z Sixth Avenue, New York. Sold
by druggists.
: Hills Hair and Wdsker Dye, black
90 brown. so cents.
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DISPATCHES
Robbery Near Deadwood.

DEADwooD, D. T., August 2.
James Anderson, milkman, who
lives on a ranch about ten miles north
of Deadwood. started for town early
this morning on his regular trip.
When two miles from the ranch he was
stopped by five masked men, bound,
gagged, robbed and left in the edge of
the woods. The robbers took about
$50 in money and span of horses
from his wagon. They then, proceeded
to the ranch, where they appropriated
three more horses and three saddles TO
their own use, telling the man who was
in charge of.the ranch to go and liber-
ate Anderson.
The silver state. [volume] (Unionville, Nev.) 1870-1903, 1878-08-03
GUESSING,

The Eareka Sentinel is INDUCING in
',guess work. II predicts that the
!. work of the Republican State Conysn-
Zion viii be easy; that General Common
will be nominated for Governor by ac-
oaamation; Mighels for Lieutenant Gov.
svnor by exclamation; Hobart for Con-
ssoller BY reclamation; Tufy for Treas,
nry by acclamation; HawleyA for
auprene Judge by acclamation; Biek.
hell for Clerk of the Supreme Court by
exclamation; Day for Surveyor General,
II he desires third term. by acclama.
ZION. This, the Sentinel says, leaves
open to- skismish the positions of At.
sOrney General and Superintendent of
Public instruction.
What disposition the Sentinel pro.
poses to make of the Office of Secretary
ofState it does not state; but. as it is
e0ly guessing, that is immaterial. We
venture the prediction that the SeBti-
ael guessing, so far as it relates to the
nomination of Connor by ,acclama:ion,
will not be verified, Humboldt has a
candidate for Governor on the Repub.
lsoan ticket. who. though not in the
ring. may convince the ring that he is
before the Convention.
The silver state. [volume] (Unionville, Nev.) 1870-1903, 1878-08-03
MARRIED..

APPLE-DAVIS- In Battle Mountain, July IL,
Henry Apple % Martha Davis.
NORTHWAY-WILCOX Battle Mountain,
July rs. Frank Northway to Q. WILCOX.
CASE-DAVIS--In Battle Mountain, July 80,
William Z. Case to gryphenia Davis.
The silver state. [volume] (Unionville, Nev.) 1870-1903, 1878-08-03

IT was maintained by the famous
chemist Liebig that drunkenness could
be cured by change of food. A
Leipsic woman whom he bad advised
to try 1t in the case of her husband.
confirmed sot, came to see him week
later. s'How did it work." asked
Liebig, 'sNot at all" she answered;
che gets just as drunk on rice and
milk.
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T e. Z C APH &c.
FOREIGN DISPATCHES


LONDON. Aug. Q.
The Archbishop Of Canterbury, the
Primate. has issued to the clergy Of his
diocese a recommendation that they
who during the past few months have
prayed for peace should now, through
a general thanksgiving return thanks
to God that their prayers have been
thus far answered. 2
Austrian Precautions.
TRIESTE, Aug. 2.
1t is reported that men belonging to
the Austrian navy. on leave, will short
ly be ordered to return to their posts.
Torpedoes have been placed at Kick
and other points on the Dalmatian
coast. - H
Thirty-six Hours i'm tho Water,
LONDON, Aug. 2.
Captain Webb has commenced the
feat of swimming thirty-six hours con-
tinuously, without rest. in the Thames.
He dove from the, parade at Woolwich
at 6 O'Clock this morning.
Supplies Ordered.
BUCHAREST. August 2.
An order has been received by off,
GERS in Bulgaria and Roumania to pre-.
pare supplies for part of the Russian
army, which will shortly return home.
Meeting Postponed.
VIENNA. August Q.
The meeting of the Emperors of Aus
tria and Germany has been postponed,
and will take place at Salisbury.
British Commissioned to Asia Minor.
LONDON, August Q.
1t is reported that Lord D1fferin will
go to Asia Minor as British Commits
sioner.
Funeral, Of the Late Cardinal
a@ Franchi.
ROME, August q.
The funeral of the late Cardinal
Franchi will be celebrated on Monday
next. In the meantime audiences at
the Vatican will be suspended.
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Ore shipped.

Colonel Buel shipped another car
load of antimonial silver ore from the
Fairmont mine to the White & Shiloh
reduction works at Galena last night,
making three car loads this week.
The silver state. [volume] (Unionville, Nev.) 1870-1903, 1878-08-03

GOVERNOR HAMPTON aud all the other
State officers hove been renominated by
the Democrats Stale Convention. The.
platform adopted reaffirms the resoh-
tons Of 1876.
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The semi-aDnual statement of the
Nevada Bank shows assets of
SIG. 443 900, of which $l0,833, 200 is
coin and bullion.
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AsO1hhI LAut3 AHV 70
The funeral of the late Cardinal
Franchi will be celebrated on Monday
next. In the meantime audiences at
the Vatican will be suspended.
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A $50, 900 y Fire.

PARKERsBURa wv. Va.), Aug. 2.
A fire here yesterday destroyed V.
Rathbone's acid factory and Blaede &
Go. 3 dye-house. Loss, about $3.50, coo.
The silver state. [volume] (Unionville, Nev.) 1870-1903, 1878-08-03

OWING to abundance OF rain last
Winter and Spring. the grape yield of
California is very heavy this season.
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NEW TO-DAY.
SHERiFF'S SALE.

10y VIRTUE OF AN EXECUTION ISSUED
NJ out of the District Court of the
Fourth Judicial District Of Nevada, in and
for the county of Humboldt, on the I'd day OF
August, A. ID. 1878, upon ajudgment recovered
in said Court on the I'd day August. 1873. in
lavor OF j. w. Brown, plaintiff, and against
W.. IL. Cheney, defendants, for the sum OF
81 500 34l00 damages, besides interest, costs
and disbursements, have levied upon and
taken in execution the following described
properly, to wit;
Three horses. mare and colt 224 head (be-
sides calvesD of stock cattle, beef steers and
COWS, OF which number abont 1870 head are
beef steers and steck cattle, and A head are
cows with calves following theml, belonging
to w. h, Cheney and in his brand.
Notice is hereby given that ON
THURSDAY, sth DAY OF AUG UsT, AID 1873,
between the hours of nine O'Clock in the
morning and five o'clock in the evening, to
wit: ut l o'clock p. NJ of said day, at l.. L.
Richards Livery Stable, in town of Winnie
mucca, hunboius 9 1haty, Nevada, 4 will ex-
pose TO sale at public auction. to the highest
bidder for cash in hand, payable only in u. . .
gold coin, all the above described proper y, ,
or SO much tnereofeas may be- necessary 10
satisfy said judgment, costs and accrulng
costs.
Given under my hand, at my office in VIM
nemucca, Humboldt county, Nevada, this
3rd day Of August, "A. D. 1878.
G. A. KYLE,
au3td Sheriff Humboldt county, New.
The silver state. [volume] (Unionville, Nev.) 1870-1903, 1878-08-03

A TINES special says: The Eighth
Congressional District Republicans in
Ohio nominated Foster. The latter
made q speech, declaring the President
had aiienated most of the leaders and
me great mass of Republicans. This
~ rrinaFkabie, coming from well
4oeap supporter of Hayes III