The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-10-25

prostitution ,och ,l. re .,orJ b. prJpuoi rad ne
ho4s s1t a. oor Of he toi, E0h pos. ege,,.
dil' 'i ~ N, ho,s nti al NE I.uf. y1u,i fl,fe
p-NHs any ting sad at mat interview about port
that was 10 be made by the naval Committee II what
was said about AZ A-Mr MuKtAGn said that n. rJia
~''' I" c"os @ preparations and hat Il rn& !. ,""ig "a,
cv,~ dms After the arrests he made the
parties to- c taken 10 thc police station and there
detained some time. M riot, III Hotf.f that he
| ruui hal ben nude
o-whai rcporicr'' A-Repo,to,@ he Nm.oauj E.pls
4 beun n,fst.Jsr
Q-what Mr. MrRrAeus conn, ction with tina,
paIeri Afditor and proprietor.
What were The reporters To dol They were to
come TO the station house. the parties there aud
write the subject ny " MT ne they deemed proper That
wa. the substance ~ the nrst int rvirw said " Mr.
hrHr,en That would look into the matter and what
could hc donc, aud separated lie had cft aud
hnd Thought the matter over concluded that would
not mention II o tile detectives at the time did
not want them to Know that such proposition had been
made to me- and did not m, nion It, suppose tor
Ntck " ten days In wVeS ten DAYS Mr. hvKisDn
came ngain TO inquire what had hecn arcun in re
gard TO The request that he hal made stated then that
nothing had been accomplished that would an.t
10 anything that It was matter tina, roud not
| I've worked up In short time. N within day
~ two Mat ~ rrnwirci time lie then pressed
| the matter quite strongly again, and wished u,
have some person detailed 20 attend 10 the matter an,
tocarrj ont the project he T.s he nnr,sg Fhhh pg,.
t"oi ~ ne Mug bsJr'm,at n rgnd ~ N, iar,iJifis
and he urged IN very stong language something
don" IN regard To carving his project After hi,
raNins that time hink called Mr. h,DF,irr III, de.
ccvc. and then Tor the first time told N,Dr,irr what
NrEAGH desired to he done laid the whole matter he.
fore INN and said. "Ncprvrr. this IL thing which
must not he carried into eject hat You Will have to an
pear o o, doins something OF the hind N,Dtvtr SAID
he could not engage IN any thing the kinl that IL was
matter which could not be earned out successfully
without giving ourselves away. that j. without let
uns people sc" that was no Hahn thins huta "pnt up
! iou th,nh that IN a day or two again Nj Munt,.n
called ~ Anow what progress had been made. ~
was unable {" ave any satisfactory statement what
/ had been accomplished.
Q.-Swic what you did say. Al sai nat nothing
had been ACCOMPLISHED that the officers had been look
anti Wa t.ttII
1t 10 sec what rould be dclp Mr. MrRf,aH seemed to
have come At inst the purpose OF asccraining
what had been accomplished
~ Mr. MiutiKtN Q-Iiow long was that after the
second interviews A-fhHt was in . day or two after.
want NJ hen 1''i dri II f''' do''f.'ts INIT n, Or,.,
oi Nltl Afiis ei r,Io,f n, ddi ,irg aft Aat and
That something must bee dome u,orc that report wa.
! made that something must he accomplished. or that
II world h' NO Ne to carry the matter any further lie
then said that he dl not believe that the detectives were
Accomplishing anythns lie believed that they were of
No account and he minated that partles snne
other persons were accomplishing more than the dctcc
uvcs From What he said gathered the idea that
There outside persons think thnt At that
time hrousht him IA contact with Mr. NcDr,trr AMI
they talked tho matter over tween themselves Exactly
what WAS saM between them did not hta ar was not
present al the time MIR Musr,Gu away again
and sun o~r saw HIM again the three or
tour days after that when he made general inquiry as
I" what had teen dome. But. asst turned out the Tom
mi'tce On naval Anair. rccollcct had postponed
making it, IMPORT from the day II intended to have
hc,n made to a subsequent dny-sonc DAYS after that
lie called three tour time. morr between the time
when u was ilst expected She committee wuuil make IL,
report and The time when did nnaily report ,o Know
what hn' been accomplished 100 the matter At one ,r
Two" the interviews something was said about 1t costing
! some money
BY the Chairman-Q by whom was il said Al
think that Mr. N,pitrr said uatn could not he done
without some money. that there would he some expense
attached 90 It and W.. MrRrA.n auth .ef Pc any
s1, t' i,A ,, ia.ats,d The matter went on IN that
WAY At one or tWooi the interviews Mr. MrRrAcu de
srcd that reports IN writing should be made by the
officers 10 show that something WAS being donewritten
~.
they had observed an; shat pros they were making
o course n"'ins was dome until tie Committee made its
report or previous To the adjournment OF Congress
Q-fhcse reports that were he made m writing to
whom were they 20 Dee showuf A-Ttsg s,n at
NJ N,rs DTn'r-nt-D Joc that 'op,h6g -ug i,ri4,
| Iji'loi
| A-No. Hr' uey were to be special reports 10 Mr..
| MrRr,ou.
BY NJ MnliKrS o-Ihave seen 1t stated In the pub.
lie press substantially, that plan
b! which Mr. WnirrHoESE b, ,,aiu.'f ho4. II
r''""'f''a do YOU Know ANYTHING about ~ Alt was
.uggc. tcd that II Mr. wHrrHoRS, could he in
such house. Jrs,a hat lni .losd
en,J get ~ rhog H. rtI ., ait,s ho., o, hf ti.d
| o-fhat was suggested by whom An. NJ MrRr,eu
| By Mr. C,SpLER Q-rhose written reports tn You
| spoke Of to whom were they 10 be made, A-To Mr.
MrsrasH.
Q-ro whom finally were they TO he submittsd' A
| rsg 20 b, submitted n ne May Department
Q-hoy were not to be made 10 TIE Board Of Police
| Commit >oners' A-No sir
II, Mr. WILLIAMS Estate whathe wished in ~ gard
10 the report which you were e. make, A--Nothing
further than simply report What tie officers
comphsnng-whciher they found Mr WHirrHoENs visit.
ius huH-vs NJ prostitution being connected with
women Tor Improper purposes ~ whether they found
an, act Of hi' that would tend 20 disgrace degrade hn
ifii was made pubic.
Odd Mr. MURrAGH state what was 70 BE- done with
that rcpoft' An @s.i 'br -, Sr,tiry OF N, My
go. nv 'nlr,lnsii.f flse a,rn
Q-Dh Mr.. MusrAgH state that A-r,,. AL dr' Ne
S,.r,'tri i-in-i O. tfar rlait itiie,, lime
@-Ant Mr. MrHtAen requested you to make this re.
port in writing lie requested the officers who
atWork upunt to make rcportin Whiting.
The next witness was the chief Of the de-
toctiye force, who had figured in all the
scandals about Washington since lsGl. His
testimony is condensed in these extracts;
JAMS 4 McDNur estate whatyo know II any
un- about amy attempt made 60 Use the police iur'c 10
influence members Of Congress regard 90 his
/ uon as Representative What was done and what
said tbs subject by member Of the Police Depart
mcnt' A-Some time m the month OF July last think.
MAJOR Kcu,Rns my superior officer. informed that
Mr. MrnrAGn wanted gentleman by the OF Vuir
rHonNF. Who Was chairman of the Committee Naval
Anairs. watched. To hnd out where lac went and also u
/ q ronaH ce'b '' 4"tm g' ran WnurnoRNE ant ~
Inn if1i loae az is'iq ln ni rii ~ p'ai' pi la,.
MIN trongif % NE "rie ho> mt rhs IA mar condition Il
ut,yf he ~ tf, JAires. feIo kfs ehh nj iif
iy Hp,s i head Naf aght .ts, hh a,. .. siid C.-
n4res
| o-whcrc ~ hist conversation take place. A,
| the police he headquarters
Q-That Wa Julyf Al THINK ltwasin July
Q-Wa, there ANYBODY else present. Al do not think
] there was ~ that time
Q-was that the rr,t Interview nj which ANYTHING ~
tile kind had been suggested A-That was the nrst
heard about
Q state ali that took place At thatiuteryicw Ana
jor RcHArps told that Mr. MrRI,Cn wanted TINT done
Q-Smte now II any tiins took place between Nol and
Muar,Gn on the subject amt n 80, when Ayes. sir;
some time after the first intmaton that hal in refer
90 the WHTrioHNr matter, was brought into the
| presence al Mr. NvHrAGH.
| Q-By vhom' A-By Major nicu,Rrs in tie Majors
| room Mr. MunrAGH was nIgns that something should
/ be done IN this matter
. What did he say about IT, Al cannot give his
exact words hut hc urged that the matter should hc
pre- s,d sa. II all very wc tn hurry This matter
up hut it required means To undertake. o this
Kind. and h. s,f m q,Ii>rd aai h. rot he r'ra-th f,
rlice, money ns.s'spiA uI1di told him that that
well enough, but that had not been repaid money
that had spent out q" own pocket n masking the in
yestputon the fires at the navy Department MN
rAGu then huHot MLar RICHARDS mt ndhn'ief h,n ~
| airtrs my nlisD NAT Hsee'vtrV
q Was there anything said at that time about what
the money was to be putto An n. ~ol,fg oat M,.
! sah,nc
Q-Ststc all that SAID about that All my mem
Org serves right 1t urged ON the grouni that the
G m he NirD Department rsY ifrrr m hie s'ohtng
ion, that the Committee would make their report ~ a
very short time,