New-York tribune., 1878-07-23
GRANT C0NKLTNG AND HAYES.
INTERESTING TALK FROM EX-sECRETARY

no LrGAL OBSTACLE 10 A THIRD TERM.

NO LEGAL OBSTACLE TO A THIRD TERN.
From an Htcrviee The Herald lgitt eISeTetafg F1a
''DO you think that the third term principle
well ali can say about that" Nh. Fish very quietly
replied, is that II the people want man for thfd
term they will hlm-thats all. There Is no prohl-
bon in the Constitution which prevents IT, Il Is often
said that al great Presidents satisfied VIII Two
terms; but look at IT, Our first five Presidents all ei
their second term Of Office aa old men They were al
bouGs. they went out office. At that age mans
ambition is satisfied. Moreover they all had been actors
in Revolutionary and had been so long before
the country thai they might well have thought the eoun
try had had enough OF them by that time. Take Mon
roe for instance be a captain IN the Revolutionary
War; think and when he lett office he had been before
to satisfy any ambition No President ever elected
:" Do you tink rhen that II our first five Presidents
mad been mueh younger men they would nave Deen
Possibly some OF thcm mieht-witb tho exception OF
General Washington, VINO, believe, w0md nOt nave ac
cepted it, He never showed any signs OF ambition"
WHY GRANT WILL NOT BE NOMINATED.
g DO you think II probable that General Grant will be
the Republican candidate, although ho may not desire
dOn't-for the reason tbat~no man has ever been
nominated President whose nomination has been talked
OF three years before" Mr. klsh. tnen, with great
cOuess for the Presidential nomination in which inyar
was finally taken and particularly at the nomination OF
Polk. Taylor and Pierce.
I" Iut pardon me. b.r Fish, was not Grant talked OF
three years before his first nomination r.
"NO," was Mr. Fish's reply Grant was nominated I'm
the Fa Of sos ana that would take us back TO the Fail
OF 1863 while Grant did not turn up prominently the
probable candidate until JOhnsOn's later quaTres with
Congress when Congress took an the power from him
which 10 could take and placed in the hands Of the Cen
erat Of the Army"
THE REMOVAL OF ARTHUR AND CORNELL.
Was not the Custom House change intended to defeat
COniling's reelection 10 the Senate 4"
i" suppose that t Is, and presume that the general
supposltion tna 1t is blow aimed az ConkDg IS
rect Well, 10 may have the intended eeet-it may de-
feat his reelection but again. this persecution Of
by powerful Administration often has OppOae
enect oi STRENGTHENING Inn instead OF destroying him
Nh. Conklug a very strong maD-nObOdy denies that
and be certainly has large following among the peo-
" We're these removals lawfully made, You think Z"
They clearly evasiODs OF the spirit 0f the Con-
sttuon which gives the Senate the concurrent night to
Judge OF the fitness OF candidates for Office President
fIayes nominated for the Office Collector pure, high
mindcu, eAcehent SenIeman' AGAINST WhOm not
word was said, and yet the Senate refused
plant General Arthur by another Collector ne mad ample
have sent hs name 10 the Senate while 10 in
But by his waiting IN the Senate has adjourned,
that body which had already expressed 5elf as opposed
10 the removal OF General Arthur. deprived OF its
concurrent lights which Is unfortunate. AT the same
efficient public officer. He has been tried pubc
position, ana will act in the future as he has heretofore
Was this step also not violation Of the Civil Service
reform rules adopted by the Presdentp
cant expression 81 have looked hopefully foe
manifestations OF real civil Service REFORM" lie replied
with Trnsiye or There Was 81 at deal IN these few
words ss they were said
FEDERAL OFFICERS IL CONVENTIONS.
This may stiIl be regarded a question Of contested
-
Secretary Scbuz to Official in which the Secretary,
lceyt tod him plainly that after he had fulfilled the
duties for which he paid his time mis- and
he could with &c what he pleased. II this Is in
ease why should u not be in others The Govern
ment employs a certain official and pays him much
the iullmeHt certain duties These duties full
hlcd the there ends und II he desires spend
bis evenings political meetings how the Govern
ment prevent II The rule could not be enforced
wise one for t Is by necessary f0r
n public officer be present at meeting in order
exercise an influence its deliberations It's
actions. lie may quietly st IN some adjoining little
room anu eXcrse just g3 mueb intuence as lac were
at the meeting"
WHO CONTROLS TIE ADMINISTRATION
"Do you think that President Hayoss admin stTatiOn
thus lnr has been q success T.
think it has been success" Nr. Fish replied
with perfect caudOr. &" only knew hlm slightly before
his election but have nn several times since he
has been In Office Here followed q pausc.l He Is
aniaha gentleman. AHothtr pause lie l. an intelli-
gent gcutitmhn.'
Her. 4uother pause eusued Mr. Fish. whose thorough
good ua,sre Is uf ha prominent characteristics
evidently irving say the very kudest things about
President that could and yet 10 easy to perceive
hts py4isC NOT cI the most enthusiastic charae
Ter. Your CORES pOndeut pursued:
" Is hC strong man r.
Mr.. Fish lu0h.d very much as II he saying men
tally, There's che milk IA the cOcOnnut," and then
calmly replied:
lie ID an omiable gentleman, he s an intelligent gen.
tlrman bat he 10 me 10 De lacking Ia Will power
STRIKES that he fails TO make his VIII felt hs
own Administration. Whether NJ Is SChuiZ Stanley
Matthews ybOuy else who controls It. cannot say
bat he does not seem 81 control II HIMSELF"