The weekly clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1863-1882, 1878-06-12
UNCONERING THE PRES
DENTAL FRAUD.
What Took Place Between R n
Hayes. Stanley Matthews and
Anderson, the Witness.
THE PRESIDENT IN A DILEMMA.
If He Appointed Anderson to "A
Good Office He Would
be Suspected.
III He Did not Provide for Him, He Would
Let Out the Secret

a investigating committee which was for
Warded by telegraph Sunday:
= NASHINGTON. June 2.-James f. Ander
son, witness before the Potter investiga-
! tlng committee, Saturday, in explanation
: OF the correspondence submitted. related
! interviews which he had with the Pres
dent and Stanley Matthews. He had beer
! offered the consulate to Funchal, and de
cI!ned TO accept. He then went to tht
, President, and the following is his account
! OF the Interview: The Presden: said he
mad received a letter from Mr.. Matthews
requesting him to give me place, and he
SAID, at the same time, he did not see eX-
actly what he could do. | said: "Mr
president, / appreciate the difficulties un-
der which you are laboring. | know that
! II you gave me a place-that is, any prOmi-
neut place--it will excite the attention OF
the country, and will cause unfavorabe
comment. | will make suggestion
which, if you will adopt will relieve you
and every body else of all trouble in the
matter. If you will appoint such man as |
shall designate TO one Of the New Orleans
appraiserships, now held by Ringgold who
has no political backing except Senator
West, | Will Withdraw all my claims on
your administration" The President pom
dered on the matter five minutes. and asked
me when was going to return to New Or
leans. | told him l did not intend to re-
turn to New Orleans unless / had some def
mite promise made that | should be pro-
vided for. Then he said: ''Iou 20 back
| home and write me this proposition which
you have made, and send it to me under
cover OF Ar. GusJin, one of my private sec
retaries, so that | shall be sure to receive
it, aud will attend to it." Next day [
! wrote to Mr.. Matthews; thought the mat
ter over, and wrote to him, and told him
| that in my telegram | did not mean to
| threaten him, because thought he was do
| ing what he could do for me; but they had
4 worried me so in Washington, and |
| thought it about time something should
be done one way or the other; l went to
| Cincinnati, on my road to New Orleans,
| and stopped over there and saw MIR. Matth-
ews he told me to 90 back to Washington,
| and he would follow me that night; L came
! back and we arrived here on she same
| evening Sunday EVENING" the tenth of
! June. l saw him three days after my ar
| rival, and asked him what had been done;
! he told me he had not seen the President,
! but he would see him that night; on We'd
nesday | called at his room, at the + bblt
house, and he told me to call on McCor-
mick, the assistant secretary of the treas
ury; L went to the treasury department.
and found that Mccormick was out OF
town, and would not return for ten days; L
returned to Matthews'S room, and he wrote
me note addressed to General Smith, the
appointment clerk; Smith said he would
take me over to the White House and see
the President; we called at the White
House, and Smith had an interview with
Hayes, at which / was not present; he
came out and said the President had in
structed him to give me some satisfactory
position on political considerations; he took
me to the treasury department, gave me
blue book, and told me to pick out such
position as | wanted he then SAID L should
have something which would be satistac-
tory TO me; | rode that day to Balti more
with Senator Matthews; he asked me If L
was satisfied, and told him was, and re-
ferred to General Smiths statement that
it was-a2l right; couple of days after that
Smith informed me that the best position
he could give me was an inspectorship IN
some customhouse, either Philadelphia,
Baltimore or Boston, which was worth
from three and a half to tour dollars day
L told him that that was not what had been
promised and not what l had right to
eX pect, and that if 1 could not get better
position than that L would go back to my
old duties as journalist, and that preferred
going back To them anyhow; said | dld
not care personally, that the only feeling
had in the matter was that certain prom
ises had been made which mad not oeen
fulfilled, and | proposed that they should
be; Smith then wrote to Matthews to the eff
feet that he had made no definite promise,
except that | should be provided tor in
satisfactory manner; after my interview
with the President about the appraiser
ship. | stopped in Cincinnati, and in the
first paper that l picked up L found re-
port of the interview of the colored deputa-
ton from Louisiana with the President, in
which the President promised to retain
Ringgold-
. Ques.-Did you say anything to Matth-
ews about it F.? Ans.-I did some of the tall
est swearing Matthews ever heard.
Ques.-What took place in reference to
the letter from Matthew'S? Ans.-I came on
to Washington and told Senator Matthews
thought an effort was being made on the
part of the Democrats to get up an iavesti-
CATION, and that information was being
furnished them by some of the boys in Lou
isiana, and that / thought that the best
manner to stop the arrangement was by
Dr. Darralfs appointment as collector of
customs of New Orleans; [ told him OAR
rail- understood pretty thoroughly the men
who ought to be provided for, and he
should do it; he requested me to have Oar
rail- call upon him, which L did; Darral
wrote to me, and after ward told me per-
sonally, and so did Matthews, that they
should work up sentiment in Darralls ia
vor. get all the recommendations they
could from New Orleans and Louisiana,
and get all the concentrations they could
from Darrall's colleagues in the house, and
they would give Matthews a pretext for
asking for Darrall's appointment as
collector of customs at New Orleans.
Ques.-What part were you to play in
that? Ans.-Matthews asked me whether,
in case DR.. Darrall was appointed, would
be satisfied, and whether | would be will
ling to deliver all papers in my possession
and give up all my claims on the Admins
tration, which l agreed to do.
What papers were referred to in
any of your conversations with Matthews
possession that evening | spoke OF Sher-
mans letter.
Ques.-To whom? Ans.-To Matthews.
Oues.-Who mentioned the Sherman let
ter first, you or he? Ans.-I have no dis
tinet recollection about the matter; it was
after Mrs. jerks had called on Senator
Matthews in connection with it.
Ques-Did she profess to hold the letter
Ans.-She Pa ofessed to hold the original
letter.
Oues.-How do you know she professed
to hold the original letter? Ans.-She told
me herself, in the presence OF other par
ties, that she had the original
Oues.-Did she exhibit 1t to you? Ans
No; she claimed that she had it at New
Orleans, and she offered to sell it for GER
tain consideration.
MATTHEW'S LETTERS TO ANDERSON, N WHICH
VISITING STATESMEN HARLAN GETS 4 MARK.
Letters from Stanley MATHEWS;
Mr.. Anderson;
You are as liberty TO use the note on the
other page as an introduction TO General
Harlan, who is one OF the commission, and
YOU can talk to him as freely as TO me. You
should say to Nash, If inquired OF. that this
STANLEY MATTHEWS
C1ScINNATT1, March %, 1877.
To General Harlan:
DEAR SIR-This will be presented to you
BY Mr.. James E. Anderson, who may desire
to communicate with you confidentially.
Yours truly,
STANLEY MATHEWS.
WASHINGTON CRY, April Il, 1877.
DEAR SIR-I had an interview to-day
with the Secretary of State in reference TO
your appointment at Caiiao. the place you
desired. Unfortunately the Secretary IL al
ready under such commitments in reference
to that appointment rs TO make il impraetI-
cal 10 CRAFTY your present wishes. ! have,
however, the best reasons for saying that
sooner or later, and as soon as practical,
shall be able 70 obtain for you q satisfactory