The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-08-28

and Louisiana they would net oppose the
count" Wasn't 1t agreed that that should
| don't think that phase of 1t was discussed; it
was, think, {. matter that was generally t1n-
derstood that that was the arrangement.
Q.-Was it known by the Democrats VINO r1i
den in the House? Att was matter which
| was generally known; don't know that we
! told them that we had agreed to it, but We
told them that the earlier the count was COM
Deted the earlier our objects In South Carolina
and Louisiana would be attained, through the
| withdrawal of the troops.
| OFF the agreement had not been made do
| YOU think the count would have gone on all
| The same? Al believe the count would have
gone on all the same il this agreement had
not been made; many OF the Democrats
| while consenting to make q virtual show, did
not desire to assumesthe responsibility OF fm-
peding the final count; some OF them showed
letters from their constituents lmpre6sng
upon them the necessity of non-interference
with the count, for fear of creating conmo~
tlon in the country if the count was delayed
! Q.-You didn't tell that fact to the states~
men at Wormley's? Ave did not.
| Q.-YOu will pardon the words but 1t was q
little bit of buff game you were playing?
Alt was bluff game,
The witness then read his dispatch Of Feb
ruary 28 to Gov. Nichols, informing him OF
1
only designed as a show Of opposition to
the count, and that he did not think they
could be held much longer together. but that
they would probably be able to obtain some
thing through the show Of strength made by
them.
4 Gen Butler then read the dispatch of Feb
ruary II to Gov. Nichols, in which NJ Burke
said all would turn out well and that Packard
would not be recognized, unless they were
very grossly deceived by high authority.
i who asked the General was that high
anthority?' STANLEY NJ Matthews" replied the
Witness
4-Ihe dispatch also says: Gam informed,
on good authority that the Cabinet yesterday
refused to recon mend recognition OF Packard
formation? A-All of that dispatch refers to
, ct o.Mfhen Mr.. Stanley Matthew'S at that
time candidate for the Senatorshp from
to the doings OF Gen. Grants Cabinet? A.
Yes, sir. 5-. -..
{ Odd Matthews tell you that he had OBJ
: tained from President Grant on February n,
the order Of that date to Gen. Augur In refer
[ ence to the troops? A-Yes, sir; and he went
t with the object of getting it after the meeting
!. in the Finance Committee room.
Q-You said yesterday that you could have
had the State OF Louisiana at any time, by
q giving the Republicans the two United States
e Senators. Who gave you that infornatIon2
A-That information was given to me before
Y lett Louisiana, on the fifteenth Of January:
y it is question not free from embarrassment
g but am unwilling to appear here as desiring
g to suppress anything.
Q Mr.. Hiscock desired to ask, inasrnuch as
= this was an uneXecuted agreement whether
II there was anything important in it, or bear
ing on the subject matter of the committees
+, inquiry. He did not object to it, however.
s. The witness replied: The information that
y such Was the exaetion that could be made of
., the Nichols government was impaired to me
o by Gov. Nichols, who had been SO advised by
Il one of the Representatives Of Louisiana at
N1-rE $nr fn M
te struction, with direction to ascertain all
8. could concerning it, and to keep the Legisla-
re ture advised; [ desire to repeat that have
nothing to suppress or conceal, and that ]
K know that Gov. Nichols does not desire that
le any Of his acts or mine, in connection with
t. this matter, shall be suppressed,
y Q.--Tell me why If you know, the Foster
at and Matthews letters were made public? A.
I don't know, other than the reasons that
8, were given in the paper that published them
at the time; they We're not made public by me
IN till I gave them to this committee; knew
ne that the people were getting uneasy at the
he delay, and wanted to hurry up matters so az
nd to secure recognition.
5e Coming back to the question as to what
Mt was Exchanged" at the Wormley conference,
ly Gen. Butler againa questioned the witness
oh reading from the witness dispatch to Gov
en- Nichols on the subject, and Major Burke
he said thai; the meaning OF the word "ex
OF changed" as used then, meant the copies OF
Ms the kilograms sent by witness TO NeHFEesT
leans, and that q fuft-eopy Of these papers
na was taken by each SIDE.
IT. Gen. Butler read from O dispatch to TIL
lat New Orleans Times, stating that Major Burke
NJ had had an interview with President Hayes
rs on the evening of the day he was sworn in.
ic- "What day was he sworn in?' asked thu
Sc, witness.
.c- ION the night of March 3d. answered Gen
Of Butler.
nd wasn't it On Monday, the fifth?n asked thu
" "WeIl, he was sworn in on the fifth" sale
Gen. Butler; she was one Of those peculal
IN Presidents that had to be sworn In twice
nd What took place then?"
he 'Well, Gen. Gibson was with me- answered
ok the witness, "and I didn't know that he hat
nd then been sworn in. We had general tall
he as to what his policy would be, and expressed
the general hope that everything would re
'th would be concliiatory, and that difficulties
De- would be removed If we prepared the way
"There were no psalms sung" queried thu
. General
e. NO. said Major Burke and no prayers
were said. Gen. Gibson drafted the dispatch
te- sent to Gov Nichols informing him Of gu
by interview.
IS, Q-What was meant by Mr. Hayes sug
Ms gestion that you should prepare the way?'
IL Att meant in general way, that we shoult
preserve a peaceful attitude and do nothing
Oh which might counteract the motive or the in
fiuence of withdrawing the troops
re- The last hour Of the session was occupied
by wearsome and persistent effort on tbs
al part of Gen. Butler to draw out some damag
'o- lllS 5LaEilLtub rom dispatches tld
ut passed between w. E. Horn and Lieut.. Coy
m Young, of Ohio, on February 26 and q, and II
ice find out whether some other dispatches haC
m not passed between them; but the effort was
Is a complete failure. Major Burke promised t.
Oy produce some other dispatches this morning
We in order to try to meet the Generals curios
Ter ity as fully as possible, and the committee
st, then adjourned until to-day.
IN
70 THIRD DAY,
FRIDAY, August %, 1875