Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-06-09

remarked frequently that it was surprising
there were 80 many errors and informalities.
A. suppose you talked with your friends
about these iuformalities and said North Caro-
lima is come in, and there are such and such
informalities; or Maine has come in, and it 10
30 and SO. Now did you ever mention to any
body it was a little queer in the case of LOUISE
ana. They had taken only one paper back to
correct and that two papers had come to you on
the same day, one by mail and one by messen-
ger?
A. cannot tell now. may have men,
toned it just as in the case of North Carolina.
O. Have you any recollection of any person
to whom you mentioned it?
A. 1 have not but think it was generally
understood that called attention to these mat
ters. did this on both sides.
APPEAR.
At the close of Senator Ferry's examination
the chairman laid before the committee the
following letter from Senator Matthews:
WASHINGTON. June 8.
Hon. C. N. Potter, House of Representa-
tives:
Sm: 1 have the honor to acknowledge
the receipt from Mr.. Irwin B. Linton, clerk of
the committee of investigation, de-, Of which
believe you are chairman, of q letter enclosing
copy of a resolution (quoting). Without in
tending any disrespect to the honorable com
mittee of the House of Representatives, feel
constrained by sense of duty towards myself
and to the Senate of the United States, of
which am a member, to decline accepting
CHS invitation under the circumstances 1T
present existing.
had no information of the proceedings be-
fore your committee to which its resolution
above quoted refers, except what derived
from reading reports thereof in the public
newspapers. When observing from their peru
sal the manner and extent to which they
seemed to affect me- deemed it due to myself
and to the honorable body of which l am
member, on Wednesday, the 5th inst, to bring
them to the attention of the Senate in state
ment and explanation of personal nature,
and az q matter of privilege moved resolution
of inquiry, which was adopted and of which
just submitted the whole matter to the Senate,
which, by the adoption of the resolution, has
taken Jurisdiction and entered upon an investi-
CATION, as requested. That body alone, so far
my conduct is concerned, is competent to
render an effective judgment upon the ques-
ton. So far, therefore, az your resolution in
vites me to submit to the House committee an
explanation of my correspondence with Ander-
son in evidence before it, 1 consider that it
would be improper for me under the circum-
stances to comply with it.
am not officially informed Of the subject
under investigation by your committee, in
reference to which | am also, by your resolu-
ton, invited to appear and answer such ques-
tions as may seem pertinent, but from the
copy Of the resolution of the House of repre-
sentatives, from which your committee derives
its existence and authority, as reported in the
Congressional Record, l learn that it is limited
to inquire into certain alleged frauds in cleo
EIorS ln II =
nection Herewith of certain named gentlemen,
of whom / was mentioned as one. l have no
knowledge whatever of any matter relating to
this subject, except SO far as it appears in cor
respondence with Anderson, which is in evil
dence before your committees and, for the
reason already given, reserve that for cxpm-
ton before the committee ordered by the Sen
ate. 1t only remains for me to subscribe my
self, respectfully.
(Slgned.) STANLEY Matthew'S.
Mr.. Matthews letter having been read Mr..
Morrison remarked: I'VE shall have to issue q
subpoena for him. ii
Chairman-When Senator Matthews name
was first mentioned inquired of members of
the minority whether he desired to be present.
Under the circumstances did not want the
committee to be guilty of any dlscourtesy in
proceeding without the attendance of Senator
Matthews, and therefore mentioned that fact
to members of the minority, and they said they
did not desire to have him present.
MIR. COx-The chairman has not been guilty
of any discourtesy whatever in that respect I
feel entirely sure of that. The question of
what might be the privilege Of member of
either House had never occurred to me until l
saw the point made in the newspapers. It was
u new one to me-one OF which had no special
occasion to form an opinion.
MeN1ahon-I don't see how We could in ad-
vance of taking testimony have notified Sena-
tow Mott hAvx,S frNn
in the resolution under which this committee
is acting to all those who were named in the
resolution. We did not accord him the right
to appear by person or by council.
MIR. Cox, speaking for the minority of the
committee-We of course have no hesitation in
if we were at fault in not making the question
wider it was from lack of knowledge.
Chairlnan-Everything was done that was
courteous in the matter.
McMahon-Did not our clerk forward to
Senator Matthews printed copy of the first
days proceedings in which his name is men,
toned?
The chairman called on the clerk and the
clerk replied he sent copies Of the testimony
to Mr.. Matthews, MIR. Sherman and Mr. Hayes.
CAUGHT IN LIE.
Butler-I wish to say that. knowing it to be
a fact, supposed had misheard the reading
of Senator Matthews letter to the committee
on that point wherein he stated he had no
knowledge of what was done here except from
public newspapers, and 1 was surprised on
reading the letter that had heard it correctly.
The chairman suggested that the copy sent
to Dir. Matthews may not have come to his
hands.
MIR. Cox-A fact occurs to me which ought to
be mentioned in that connection. The day az
ter our first lot of testimony was printed. be-
ing in the Senate chamber in the afternoon and
casually meeting Senator Matthews, / asked
him If he had received a copy Of the printed
testimony, and he told me he had not. Then,
having my own copy, which received from the
clerk, in my pocket, l gave it to Senator Mat
thews, supposing at that time, however, that a
copy would be sent. as suppose it has been.
The clerk said it was sent to him by page.
DIGNITY OF THE HOUSE.
Butler-This becomes very serious and i'm
portant matter, affecting the privileges of the
House OF Representatives, and while have the
honor of a seat III that body, I Go not propose
tamely to submit to any invasion Of its rights,
privileges duties. By the constitution the
House of Representatives is charged with the
duty Of preferring articles of impeachment
against any officer Of the government who shall
be deemed in its judgment to be guilty of high
crimes or Inisdemeanors. The House is made.
as it if sometimes said, 'sthc grand inquest of
the nation" to put in motion the legitimate and
necessary steps to bring high criminals before
the highest court of the nation. The Senate of
the United States sitting as court of impeact-
ment, properly to do these duties, requires the
fullest power of taking testimony before the
lower court, which has the Jurisdiction of the
lower class Of misdemeanors. Every man when
called on in due form
MUST APPEAR AND GIVE EVIDENCE
uOHer Of mt of