The Portland daily press., 1878-07-27
THE INVESTIGATION.
Ex.Congressman Moneys Testi-
.m0ny.
Intimidation Not Denied During
the Election.
Batler's Compassion for the Tempted,

ButIer'S Compassion ZOE tne Tempted.
ATLANTIC Cry, July 26-The cross.exam-
nation of Mr.. Garfield was postponed.
Mr.. Sypher was called. He said that al
though on Wednesday he was unable to indi-
cate any document which he had seen with
Mr.. Sherman's signature, he could now say he
had seen it in autograph albums, on petitions
for Office with the names of other congressman,
and as frank on public documents
lie said there was some opposition to Pack
ards nomination as Governor among the Lou
isiana Republicans. His own place of residence,
st. Mary's parish, was peaceable, but he heard
of violence otherwhere Republican speech
makers told him that at Feliciana and Shreve-
port they had been stoned and insulted. He
thought Packard's nomination caused GOODNESS
in some places. Colored men said Kellogg did
not enforce the laws for their protection.
Pinchback was an idol with the colored people,
and they were displeased that he did not get a
He said when Weber showed him the Sher.
man letter, he thought it was the script of
Sherman, and therefore genuine. There was
no reason why the national should run behind
the state ticket. He believed there was in
timidation in Felicana. Many Republicans
were opposed to the bayonet policy-it had lost
them several Northern states and injured the
party in Louisiana. Being questioned as to
whether ne was himself Republican. witness
replied "No" He continued that the state
was divided on the Wheeler question. "Wheel-
en-" he said. "sold us with his compromise in
1S72,-we don't believe in compromises in that
country-.giving all to our foes and having
nothing in return" Statements of fraud were
made after election by Republicans in parishes
where their vote had fallen off. The Demo-
Gratis tried to get the negroes to vote their
ticket, bought voters, and used other means in
WITNESSES parish, and were very affectionate to
-yNVp 20 yrantxn khar, ~
whites in the street-cars and in public schools;
in this the Democrats outstripDed the Republic
cans. This equality to certain extent still
exists there.
Frank Money was called. He said he was a
member of the 41st 42d, 43d and 44th Con-
crosses. from the fifth district of Louisiana,
but was not candidate in 1876. The Demo-
Gratis OF Madison parish discussed bull-dozlng,
and Major Lucas opposed it and 1t vas not
practiced. The result was increase of l02 votes
over the usual Republican majority in 1874.
Witness was one of the Republican counsel
before the Returning Board. The facts of bull
DOING, murder and violence in the parishes
was not disputed then, the question being as to
who did the crimes The whole court and
nsnsl machinery is in Democratic hands, and
no attempt was Aaae punish the offenders
Eliza Pinkston lived 10 Ouachita parish. where
the Democrats ruled. There was no doubt she
was cruelty maimed-of this be was certain by
actual inspection. She was carried before the
returning Board on sofa. Packard's nom
nation made so much dissatisfaction that the
leading Republicans queried whether it was
not best to protest against it, and support the
national ticket alone, but the plan was given
up, and they voted the party ticket though
calling it bitter dose. He said there was no
statute of limitations now in Lousiana,-the
act was changed in 1868 or 1869, and SO the
wrong doors could be arrested any time
Two thousand murders were reported by the
congressional committee in 1865 when the
Republicans had control in two-thirds Of
the parishes. He did not know of one convic-
ton for political murder under Warmoth, KEEL
logg or Nichols. In the absence Of legal
punishment he said, people are apt to redress
their wrongs in their own way.
Gen. Butler closely interrogaced witness, who
said that on the face of the returns Nichols
received majority of the votes for Governor
and the Tilden electors for the Presidency;
that the Returning Board threw out enough
votes to eject Packard, and after this threw out
1872 votes to elect the Hayes electors, The
rumor got out that there was this difference.
CHAD you not been proceeding on the
basis of the Packard vote at the time?
A-lnEthe management of theI case before
the board we generally took the Packard vote
as the basis
Q-And you were trying to make case M
der the law to give the maiorities to Packard?
Ayes. =,
Q-Then you had to 90 1900 better to give
the electoral vote to Hayes. Do you say that
prominent politicians and the whiting states
men and the six Republican counsel did not
discuss this condition of things? 1t has been
sworn that the question was not discussed by
them. Was it not anxiously and earnestly dis
cussed?
Alt was.
Q-And those who were sent to witness the
count showed as much anxiety as any other
persons?
Al suppose they did as the different phases
OF the case came to their knowledge.
Q-You know this was discussed in par
lor p?
A-Although do not recollect any partcu-
lar discussion, feel confident that it was dis
cussed there, if not by the visiting statesmen,
by everybody else 1t was discussed by the
caunsel and party leaders on both sides.
Q-Was anything said as to what ought to
be done?
A-The object of counsel was to present all
the cases in the parishes where there had been
intimidation, fraud or anything not contem-
plated by law. We presented protests against
everything illegal or irregular.
Q-And you were very vigilant?
,Q-You relieved the visiting statesmen of
that duty?
Ave did it for ourselves.
Q-And prior TO the opening of the returns
you had substantially the returns showing you
the result.
Awe had made some figuring Il did) as to
what results would be produced if certain par
lsh returns were thrown out
people?
Avery probable. The calculations were
not made in secret but were made for a pur-
pose. that Is, to ascertain result, and probably
the figuring came to the knowledge of the visit
ing statesmen.
QaoThe only thing is they swore the other
Al think it possible that the figures were
not mentioned to them.
Q-Why?
A-Becaase they might not have desired to
pc informed Of the figuring as to the result but
brought to their attention.
Owns reason had you for supposing that
they did not desire to see the calculations when
they went there for that very purpose?
Al understood they went to New Orleans
to witness the count and the manner of arrig-
ing at the result -
;, Q-Was not this figuring communicated to
the visitors sent to Floridada to perform SINH |
lar service in that state?
Al DO not know this as matter of fact.
put understood the result of the calculation
was sent to Florida so to come to the knowledge !
OF the Florida officials
Q-Have you any doubt that this thug was
talked of in Louisiana as Familiarity as we are
talking here today?
Al had no doubt that the calculation con-
corning the ultimate result in Louisiana was
communicated to them as they were as much
Interested 10 knowing what would be the re-
Suit ~ LOUISIANA as we were in knowing what
would De the result in Florida.
=, Q-Ihen If Florida had gone against you
mere would have been no necessity for your &C.
ton in Louisiana?
ALI Florida had gone against us Hayes
would have been defeated.
,O-From your knowledge of the returns and
" tne examination as counsel, ha We you not come
o W. Sao enGnclusion that if Packard was not
electe1 ~ Hayes was not elected?
under the laws Of No state "' '0'N "eio e'eo'eu
Butler then ipterrogasea tho ,n,,noss =.
ls1gth about the Packard govern9,ant and the
the y yeaf a.. commission. He said, among other
coula not be removed from office excsnt nv inc NC
p Is;S and no attempt was made to do
.. 40 you say that the commission w,n,od
ture and mob? aiegai leglsla-
bs AMThe commission az all times disclaimer
character in the matter at effectioc coms
mise between Packard ana 10 NicSo Sompro-