The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-08-03
BUTLER AND KEARNEY.
The Essex Statesman and the CalifOr-
MIA AgitatOr Compare Notes.
"TWO HEARTS THAT BEAT As ONE.'
Finance. BondhoIders, the Chinese and
Railroad MonopoIies Discussed.
Boston, August 2, 1878.

Bosrox, August q 1878
The following 10 the substance OF report OF In
ierviaw between General Butler ana Ksarney, the
California astaior ut Brighton, Mass. last Tues
day afternoon, which Will be published here tomorrow
morniaR:-
General Butler called on Koarney ut bis mothers
rssidence, and after some desutory remarks agi.
tatiou In California. Kearney SAID -
General, have ssverai questions desire TO havo
you answer, as am sure they wi be interesting 10
thu people OF The Pacific coast aud especially 10 our
delegates TO the Constitutional Convention. They
Ftrst--what power has a state by provision In It's
constitution, 10 prevent Chinese i'm m igr alton?
Second-What discrimination can made by
amendment 10 Its constitution against aliens aud
those not capable OF admission to citzsnshp without
conflicting with the fourteenth amendment 10 tho
constitution OF the United StatssY
Third-Can We deoar them by constitutional In
hioiuon IRON hshipg IN our inland waters, from re-
ceivnR license TO engage in licensed business, IRON
using State courts, from other privileges en-
joyed by citizensr
Four0-Can tho State levy capita.ion tax on such
ahensf
FItM-can the State confer on munich ,Iities the
rish' 10 exclude them lrom tue CITY iimitsr
S,rh-And generally wuat can tue State do 10
protect them from THIS cursor
these questions were asked. and Buticrs CON-
ments aud kearney's explanation TOOK up one nour OF
the interview; buter's most pointed remark being
the qusstlop, III tneir bones would make good
leriii, 4erSp In speaking OF new constitution or
CailorEla Butier sogxcslcd that the Massachusstt
Jury ~ stem should be Adopted, that a man cannot
Ak "a
w I,roie.sonai Jary.nan abuses. The conversation
then lufucd oh Tie freedom OF speech Butler remark
ius,s "Ar. kearney, you had reasonable freedom OF
speech II mo papers report you iarlyf
kgARNEy--Yes. but / had TO 6snt Tor il, Why, the
Boaru oil Supervisors made gag iaw which wouldn't
hold water. me Goveraor signed it, ana violated iI
the very next day
BUrLER--It eouIdn'. have been well digested law
KEAxNEY-It was jus. this 10 make threat u felony,
whiIe an assault was mlsdeme amor.
BuTLER--Cart before tue horse.
n hat l,o
you down. that's felony aud 60 TO State Prison; bu.
II knock you down mats mlsdemsauor and 20 10
the station house for twenty -iour hours
Butter laughed heartily NJ Kearnoy' vigorous Ian
guage. alter winch Kearney en,"rcd into general
ana bis ash. with .sorshoads;' how a newspaper .iS
clique helped 70 widen the breach, anu YET,
m spite OF h these LICK, "ne.spi'tlssm aud ali
Is OOO 10 Ia 900 votes whi.o the soreheads ranged
from TO ~, aud tho democrats and republicans but
General Rutler very much interested at Kear-
ney's graphic description, and asxod-
shave you majority III tonveLti0nY"
KEARxKY-Yes; or at oast there Is enough OF our
men in country elected on Don.pxrtisan tick ct
to give US majority oil working members. l have
no doubt fact pubic opinion strong out there
that they dare not do otherwise.
BuTLER's IDEA OF RAILRoADa
Tho subject Of railroads Was Introduced, Gen.
srai Butler claiming they should DO public highways
General Butler then spoke OF Vanderbilt wnen
Kearney, tuterrupitug, said:-
awe call sucn men thieves upon the Pacific coast, %
General Butler did not blame the man SO mu UGH a.
the system which allowed such railroad monopoly.
He blamed the workngmon Tor voting Tor such Q
system.
KgARNEy-We must chop both ways, General. Hang
a few OF these thieves and vote them the same
time. We'll, General what about grsepbacksr
General BurLuR-Weil, the gresnbaek 1. untaxed
money. Shyiocks wish to make IL Interest bearing
KsAsSrY uu,srrup,ing,- Money, money! We wan,
hrst an onest thcn money viii take caro-
OF itself why. Il cobbo stones were money TO- NOR.
row these thieves would make corner in It.
.kt. haiti
KnAKNkY-Wcii, General, ind that you are quito q
favorits with wOrkingm men heres
BUTLER-Wel, man can hardly live one com
munity Tor sixty years without having some iricnda
KRARSEY-Weii, " you run Tor Governor you will
BurLBR LEAVE coXGRxss.
BUrL.R-I expect 10 oave Congress this term,
whether run Tor Governor or not, which Is by no
means a settled thing yet.
rho General thon gave his for wishing to got
out Of Congress He said he had been In Congress ten
yrar.. There were l3O, 600 mon. from Name to Cali
iornia. WAC used TO be undsr him, who thought
Shey had mortgage upon hun Tor all
time to attend to their pensions. making II
OF .'bricks" occasionally. He was growing tired OF
t. He then touched upon us urious interest," suggest
against usury. Speaking about savings banks In
Nassachuse he said that they could not pay niiy
KrAsyKY THAT'S what told them in Crirrnia,
that the banks oil San Francisco could pay twenty
cents on the dollar, but they would not believe H.
TAXING THE BoNDHoLDER.
General Butler then explained the evils Of
untaxsd bonds, saying:-"A with $iOo, 900
In United suites bonds Gomez 10 bosion
and hires honse which Ii protected
from nrc, &C., by our police. Ho gets his interest
from the rho lives next door 10 him, from
those who wore on the streets; thus no lives IN
luxury. and the work ingmc vote to keep IL W."
KEARSgy-We will change that whom workingmen
BurLER-l am In favor OF taxing idle Investments
such this and allowing manufacturing Investments
TO go untaxsd
Tux POLITICAL PARTIES.
n BuTLRRWhat you think oil the different parties
KgARSgY-Wel, the republican party cannot come
against sham. Tho democrats nave sold out before
they commencs the nghL Hayes and Tilden
alike Certainly Hayes was elected by iTauj. Old
Marston voted IL, 600 dead Caifsrnia; but III
dcn Is better We'll, General, on what basis do you
tuink worxingmsn ought TO DO organized IN Ma,sa.
chusetts
BurLKn-weli, that requires thought H. you are
going through n crowd, ana one man pinches your
npger at tho same time that another steps on your
toe, you deL't care VINO knocks them on In other
words. wh lie united point all have
our opinions on finance. You expect TO speak in
Aassach usctts
KEARxxY-on Monday night A reception has been
arranged Tor tho old cradle OF liberty, Fancuil
Hall Inspired with such associations can't help
but speak
M Kearnsy expressed pleasure q. meeting man
Who had thrown so many not bricks ~ thieves, ana
the interview terminated.
GENERAL yuTLER's CARD.
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