Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1878-12-14
Debate on Mr.. Blaine's Resolves.

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Our Geographic news gave only sketch of Mr..
Thurmans speech in the debate which followed
the speech of Senator Blaine on his resolves.
The following is . report of the discussion bse-
quent to Thurmans speech.
The GENERAL DEBATE
The Vice President-The question is on the
anne ndmenl proposed bv the Senator from Ohio.
Mr. Edmunds-Mr. President. sm good deal
impressed with what the Senator from Ohio has
said part cuarly in respect Of the corrupt use Of
money and the attempt to use it to influence cleo
tions. Disclosures that are said TO have been
stated 10 the ne wspa pers during the last campaign
undoubtedly should lead to an rquiry into that
very dangerous practice, and l hope that his
amendment will be so enlarged as 10 cover oil
subjects Of that character. But what rise to do
now 10 to ask that his amendment may be printed.
and then to call for the regular order.
The Vice President-The order 70 print will be
entered.
Mr.. Blaine-I do not desire to detain the Senate.
but wish one word. The honorable Senator
from Ohio has informed the country, and Informed
il with Is much authority as any man eau speak,
that property In the South will rule.
Mr.. THURMAN-l said such thing. said
no moe Of the South than have said every where
that property, Intelligence, and educa ion will
rule.
Mr.. Blaine esard'ess Of uumbersl
Mr.. ThurmAa--Oh, well. now, the Senator can
call it regardless Of numbers, II he wants.
Mr.. Blaine-I undo rstood the Senator. l was
going to state him correctly.
Mr.. Thurman-The Senator cannot mi repre-
sent me 10 regard to that. How will they rule,
regardless of numbers" BY unlawful means I
No, Sir; does not the Senator influence good
many people in Maine TO vote o. he thinks
Mr.. Blsine-I should like to influence some in
Ohio. ILaughte-.l
Mr.. Thurman-He failed this year He does it
every year, year in and year out, because he has
int lgence and education, and skill and property.
That is the reason of it, and 50 let me tell him that,
if he lived down South, he would have ia ! OF
nRgers more lengthy than the clan any Highland
chief ever bad in the Higulaods. (iauyhter,1 all
by reason Of his character, education, aud morals.
Mr.. Blsne-I am equally sure that il the Sepa-
tor from Ohio lived in the South be would not
| have = tail of negroes following him at all
| Laughter. We should be just in contrast. But
| | wanted him to point this remark. The Senator
qualities, but still it stands out, and take South
Carolina, with 1901 900 more colored men than
| white men, and the leader of the democratic par
~, based on the rights of the people, without re-
gard to caste or color, without educational test or
property justification, as the democratic doctrine
| has always been, announces here TO US that prop.
erty and education will rule, and when we assert
| that they have ruled BY violence he tells US that
| there are important questions which we should
consider and that Congress has not time to waste
upon that. The initial step In the organization OF
every legislative body is to see that it is honestly
filed BY men honestly elected, and if | were per-
mitted by ntary law TO speak of the other
| branch Of Congress, l would cay and declare here
| to-day that the democratic party does not hold
iightful away 10 that body now, and holds it in
the next House by fraud and outrage which no
mere declaration against sectional agitation can
overcome. And we are asked to abandon all sec
tional agitation, or asked under the plea of aban
donng sectional agiton, TO submit ell the grave
and great questions that affect property and huns an
n n hat ia sad
Il ucton Of human rights, and that lacks the war
| rant laid down by Jefferson of the right to gov
ern-it has not the consent Of the governed.
Manifestations Of applause in the galleries. which
| were checked by the Vice President.
The Vice Piesident-The resolutions 20 TO the
| calendar. The Senate resumes the co nsideration
! Of its Unfinished business.
Mr.. LAMAR's SPEECH.
Mr.. Lamar of Missi.sippi-Mr. President, when
hese resolutions are printed and ready for action
| shall have something to say upon the question
OF their adoption. Before the question passes off
| now, wish to make one or two remarks upon
| single point submitted by the Senator from Maine
Sir ii is not surprising thing, nor is it an unnat-
ural one, that the distinguished Senator should
feel manifest and deep interest in the affairs of
| the Southern States. Sir. had the Senator come
| forward with some we'll devised scheme os educa.
ton to fit this newly enfrsnchised race who have
had these exalted duties imposed upon them,
telligence of practical experience to exercise
their great duties as free men and cit zens, and
the participants In the sovereignty of Common
wealths, every one would have recognized the
proprety and patriotism of such movement, for
be would have given to the people what they most
| need, and which should protect them from every
evil which be now alleges that they labor under.
But, Sir, Whist is the point at last of the gentle
mans Argument this morningi 1t is remarks.
Ole that there were some omissions Of a verv
n fhAF HaE and A
to the suppression Of the expression of The
votes OF particular class of voters, sutragans
in the South. Now. Sir, through the protracted
remarks Of the gent eman to-day, he could not
utter one word-he could not, because it would
not have been the truth il he hsd-that there
was not single right of freedom or citizenship
belonging 10 the black race of the South that
was not q secure and ~ we'll enjoyed as that of
the proudest and freest white man in the land
There Is smother remarkable fact that in this in.
dictment Of the South there 10 no pretense that
there IL . single meusce In Der present attitude
70 any Of the great interests Of this country; not