The New Orleans daily Democrat., 1878-07-02
THE NEW ORLEANS DE1roURAT, TUESDAY, JULY 2, 1878

should read over the testimony " hlIn ~ uuIinB
the evening, as he was to leave for Europe 10
the morning Leave was granted, and the
committee took recess until o CLOCK
AFTER THE RECESS.
Challes Hill was called for at o'clock and
found wanting He was not what Would De
called willing witness and did not put In an
appearance until it was halt-pasU the hour
appointed r,,.,. ..,-.., -,
age and occupation.
HILL am now stOrekeeper in the custom
House and am 36 years OF age. nave Deen
in the Custom louise since December, 1871,
up to that time I was doing nothing after our
government was broken up. PfeVlous 10
that time was an examiner in the Auditors
office here. I am q native OF New Jersey ana
came here in the army IN 1864. went In the
Auditors Office in 1867. | went to washing
ton to carry the returns, or what is known as
the second setof returns lett on I friday. Jhe
twenty-sixth Of December, 1876, for Washing
ton Gen. Anderson carried the tirst returns to
Washington, but cannot tell on what day ne
returned, | left on Friday evening.
After referring to q file OF the Repa6hcan,
he said find Friday was the twenty ninth.
was detained over at Charlotte, NJ on
Sunday. l left here on the O'Clock Mobile
train. On Monday evening. we caught
heavy snow storm at Readvtlle,
Mr.. Stenger-Don't you know that was New
Years Day?
Hill thought / was in Washington on
New Years Day. | left Readville, N o., on
rS~How long before you left New Or
| leans was it that you saw Gen. Anderson
| Hill-The same day, about 2 o'clock. |
don't know that / saw him the day before.
had no conversation about the returns with
him. / only talked with him moment.
Mr. S.-Who first broached the subject OF
carrying the returns to Washington TO your
Hill-Gov Kellogg. He asked me II
would take the returns, and SAD would.
/ mt know that AnnpT-
son had already carried the certificates on
/ HILL knew that but | understood that
there was some defect In, the tirst set. SO
understood at the time. Gov. Kellogg handed
me the second returns in his Office about half
past o'clock the day left, and l had
Just time to go to Algiers, where live, and
get back to the train.
Mr.. S--Did you have any knowledge where
those returns were made out!
| HILL don't know that, but know where
they were made out. 1t was in q room in the
third story of the state House, nearly over
the Governors office When went upstairs
there to get the returns, Mr. Brewster, one Of
| the electors, came into the room to sign them.
/ went In with Gov. Kellogg. Never went into
the room when they were being prepared.
They were not completed when entered the
room. cannot say that there were seven
names signed before / entered. | only know
that Mr.. Brewster signed after ] got in there.
I was standing about five feet from Brewster
when he signed. There were several others III
the room. don't recall their names now.
/ They were about there. / can swear posi-
lively that saw Mr.. Brewster sign.
Mr.. Snow, can you tell us on what kind
of q table these certificates were?
/ Hill-Well it was a table about like this
pointing to the long committee table,.
1 Mr.. S.-WaS 1t round or square ?
i Hill cannot tell what kind OF q table they
were ON. Mr.. Conquest Clarke took them after
Mr. Brewster had signed them, and put the
certificates in an envelope. When went in
Gov. Kellogg asked II all had signed, ano
Mr.. Clarke said in response
ALL BUT MIR. BREWSTER.
Mr.. S.-Who signed and sealed these returns
HILL know Mr. Clarke put them in an en-
velope, but think they were taken down tC
Gov. Kellogg's office. / cannot say that al
the names were on the returns when Brewster
signed, for / did not examine them. Gov
Kellogg may have written a letter of intro
duction for me down In his office. He wrote
something there. The room up stairs was 6
small one It was from ten to fifteen minutes
that was in the room.
Mr.. S.-After you left the room did any
body sign them?
Hill am not sure, but I think Gov. Kel
logg signed the certificates in his office. II h'
signed them Gov. Kellogg had to take then
| out of the envelope. 1t appears to me the!
were spread out on desk there. 1t mus
have been 8 80 to 4 o'clock. / cannot recall
; those who We're LII the room.
Mr.. S-Did any one have a pen in his hant
! for the purpose OF signing them when you en-
tered the room up stairs on the third floor
Hill-Mr. Clarke had pen in his hand, ant
was sitting at table, or had it over his ear
with the certificates spread out before him ol
the table. He did not say who had siRnet
. before. can't say he was writing, but he ha'
pen, and the certificates were before him.
Mr.. S-Was there any statement made T.
you by Gov Kellogg, or any one else, why !
was there should be second set OF certih
, Gates
Hill-No one ever mentioned it. wit
ness then described his detention on hi
, route to Washington. The cause Of my de
tention at Charlotte was my missing connec
tions, and at Readville o snow storm. Whe
: / arrived in Washington put up at the Ma
, tional Hotel, and then
! WENT TO SEE MIR. CHANDLER.
1 delivered letter of Introduction from, Gov
e Kellogg to him, had the returns with M
/ then. Mr.. Chandler told me TO 60 at once +
9 the Vice President. went at once to M MI
His secretary was there; Mr.. Moses, I thins
was his name. No one else was in the room
= told him had brought the returns from Lou
witness the delivery of the documents to- hin
told him knew Mr.. Sherman. for had me
e him here. In few minutes Mr. Il Ferry, ate
n then delivered the documents to the Vice Pres
: dent. This delivery was witnessed q by ~ MI r she
= Committee and there wrote me letter to Go
: Kellogg, acknQwledging that the returns h. h.
q been delivered to the Vice President. I'll
d letter was private letter, and l don't kno
T. what the contents We're.
II Mr. Sherman only said he would write lett
to Gov. Kellogg, stating that the returns be
J. been properly received. asked the vi
: President for receipt, and he refused. sayir
= that 1t was contested case and he could
y give one. The letter saw
n MR.. SHERMAN WRITE
l. took up nearly page of note paper. It was {
Mr.. sherman afterwards. ! left eft about two
- - following. got to New Orleans on January
a 4 the day before Mr. Packard was installed;
g. Mr.. S.-Before you left here for Washingtc
did Gov. Kellogg give you any instructions? .,
Hill-Yes; he told me to go to Mr.. Chandl
n letter that 1 spoke Of: ! do not know wheth.
le Mr.. Levisee or Mr.. JofTrion was here, in Il
city December % or not. | have heard sim
v, they were not. Even when I was In the uDp
Al room or in the Governors office, or out In Il
a city, heard of nothing by which [ could knc
At whether they we're in or out of the city, | b
~ % lieve l have given you all the information
., have on the subject