The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1878-06-29

that day, spoke enthusiastically Of His Majesty, whom he regard
expressed the wish that long may he live and reign over a FIRE
snd prosperous people; regretted the presentation OF Hi
threat TO this Assembly; condemned the triumphal air wit
which the Minister of Foreign Affairs presented the letter Il
the House, and charged The responsibility Of the error com
mitted upon the Minister; doubted the prOpriety Of the resolu
ton expressing a want Of confidence; would not support it.
His Excenency the Attorney-GeneraI said: Whenever Hi
majesty desires me to resign my commission, 1 shall do {"
Of the Hon. member from Iahaina Mr.. Gibson) AS 1 haTe
aithoash Ihe iTSe' 6 0s aaG" f5a6 0'h Iasa ! se stste y 3 mt tb at'I
always pursued office. so shall / most willingly return to pn-
vats life at any time when the authority under which l hold
shall SO desire. I am convinced that the only ground for the
present resolution IS purely on personal ground-on motives
The Hon. member from Lahaina has referred TO his own
course in this country, and says that he has always sought
volume Ofthe Hon. members history, both before he came to
this country and since; but it is well known, and there are
NATIVES on this Island, on KAUAI, and perhaps on Lanai II they
still! live, who could tell how the Hon. member has looked after
the Hon. members treatment of natives. But i prefer TO avoid
personal illusions, although they are fairly invited by the CON-
The Hon. Noble, Dir. Rhodes, says he doubts our position on
the subject of annexation. l am free to say that whether here
or IN my native land, in office or out, it is my view that an
neHaton is not for the interests Of either country, under pres
ent circumstances. Nor do / mean that this country shall or
ought TO be under a British or any other protectorate. But it
IS my opinion that the HOn. member from North kona CMr.
Piipo), who says that the Hon. ii. A. p. Carter is an an
nexatiOnisI. and that we are favoring annexation, is unwilling
ly forwarding the wishes of those who believe in annexation.
What L mean is, that there are some who desire this Govern
ment 10 become so weak and worthless that annexation must
know it was to be introduced here until l heard it read; but l
know no reason why such communications should not be sent
10 n HOuSe. l know that the resolve adopted o 1nursuays
to answer categories concerning his foreign mission, was
undertaking to advise the Hon. Noble, Mr.. Kaai, who brought
in that resolve, about the Legality of his measures, 1 don't
think he would accept my advice. 1t is my habit TO observe
the deliberations of the House, but seldom TO advise unless
No reasons have been given for a vote Of want Of confidence,
which have not been fully explained. These daily and evening
sessions Of the members at the rooms Of the Hon. member CMr.
Gibson) were not held for purposes of advancing public inter
ests, but, as 1 think, to carry out personal objects Of ambition
and 10 give vent TO personal spleen.
Mr.. hauai opposed the adoption oil the resolution.
Mr.. Palohau and MIR. Moanaui favored the adoption OF the
Mr.. Martin favored the division of the resolutions; doubted
the proPriety and correctness Of adopting the resolution IN its
Mr. W O. smiths said a great deal has been said against the
Ministers, whilst nothing has been said about duties performed
by them in the economical management of the different Gov
ernmental Departments, the careful regard OF Government
interests, the security of life and properly, the enjoyment of
peace at home and friendly relations with all foreign countries,
Satisfactorily dfactnafSS m nsnnS. p the insane cared for, prisoners looked
after, Educational, Financial and Judicial Departments ably
conducted-in fact, all the Departments honestly and judi
ciously managed. We should not forget all this, and allow
ourselves to be carried away by excitement. The consideration
of the hotel and treaty questions should be postponed until the
reports referring to them are laid before the House. when we
lister / regard as a most undesirable one. Owing to the late
will not vote for this resolution.
Hon. Mr.. Bickerton said
There seem to be some misunderstanding about the refer
ence TO the appropriation bill in the resolution. One member
has said that it means the indefinite postponement of the bill.
1t is a mistake; it is only the postponement of the appropria-
The Hon. Noble Mr.. Rhodes has made some strong arguments
why We should not feel confidence in the present Ministry,
stronger than any 1 have heard yet; yet he does not feel that
he can vote for the resolution. OF course all men have differ
ent opinions, and L do and shall always respect his, but l
can't agree with him this time; he has also said a good deal
about the annexation party, that former Ministers belonged to
it, that there was something behind these Ministries, that this
Ministry was chosen from the same partyj he wished that
some other party may be In power; he has also SAID he is glad
to see that an opposition party has been formed that has
strength, and that it is not as il: has been in former sessions
that members could be bought up by government appoint
ments; it used to be that after the close of the session that
great many of the representatives figured as Tax Assessors or
Tax Collectors; he now thought there was some hope for Ha-
Wa q 15e + N i Isree of %H Interim i1Ti saws IS a p e dean eI sb br a y Eeso.
1utiOD hpiDU OlttnU m for 6aVS. hFOlpbt il n N
have they notl They threw down the gauntlet and chal-
lenged us and we have taken il up, they asked us to come on
and we have done so. IfI had any doubts about this resolu-
ton they were all dispelIed yesterday, that letter was enough
for me. The Minister of Foreign Relations should have sim
ply told the House, that il was not considered proper by the
Ministry that Mr.. Carter should come on the floor Of this
house and speak, he not being Il member, and iht 1t was in-
teriering with the Kings Prer0gative. and that he did net wish
had it read. 1t was dragging the King before this House, and
laying him open TO criticism. This should never be. The At
tolney General has said that he knew nothing of this letter
being read in the House, until he saw it here. How is this
Do these four Ministers act in such an important matter as
these Ministers have To- answer for p; Yes. Mr. Chairma6. can
we have confidence in such a Ministry! A great deal has
been said about the baby (he resolutiOn) and my friends the
called the fathers of it, by 1.-THE Minister Of the Interior. l
never knew of Child having two fathers, so 1 won't add N.Y.
self to the number. l have been called by many one of the
leaders of the independent party, so L presume l am an uncle,
and l think that baby will find many uncIes among the mem
bers Of this house. Hit IS so, l am proud OF 1t; l am proud to
be considered an Independent member. L promised my con-
sltuents this; l have no Offices to offer or money to give for
brides, so if 1 have led any member or members OF this house.
l have not done it with money or promise of Office. l could
not expect my constituents 10 say L was a good and faithful
servant, if by my vote 1 said L had confidence in the present
Ministry as a body. How can any independent member of
this house say he has confidence, after the developments
that have been made since the opening Of this session! Look
at the Report of the Finance Committee and the Report of the
Tha; vote was the voice of the people, the Representatives are
the voice Of the people; and some of the MOBILES also voted for
the adoption of those reports.
1 don't feel like going into the different departments much;
others have done so, but L must notice the hotel business.
The Minister OF the Interior has made an ingenious defence for
himself, and says he must not be blamed for the dongs of
others. True, but this Ministry came into Office Dec. 9th,
1876, and on the LIST of January 1877, this lease and a good
and sufficient bond was to have been filled by Mr.. Herbert;
and they now tell US that in May following Herbert's bondsmen
refused to sign the bonds. Here is the point. Why was not
that lease and that bond signed on LIST January as agreed?
why was Herbert allowed to run on until May! If the con-
diti0ns Of the sale had been carried out, they would have had
their lease secured by this bond at a rent of s6059 per annum.
And here L would say there were others at that sale, who had
good and sufficient bondsmen and were ready to comply fully
rom, us m = n annprad and encnmbered' thai NJ y or,siSa ~ ,Ss.
present lessee could bid for it. In reply TO Mr.. II. Macfarlane.
the Minister said, whoever purchases this lease will have to |
do SO under these conditions, that is, that they must take Dir.
Herbert's furniture as appraised, Il think something over
$4,000. Who was going to be compelled to buy a lot Of sec
TO sell any ones private furniture. We have licensed auc-
tioneers-and to prejudice the sale Of government property by
such membranes. The result Of the second sale shows how
it was prejudiced and deprecated, it being bid of to the same
person, Mr.. Herbert, for S2350 per annum. A Minister or a
person may want to be liberal and easy, and considerate-he
may do this with his own p~roperty-but he must not be al
would have been without furniture. AT any rate, there were
people ready to purchase the lease without these restrictions.
The only fair way TO all was TO have sold the lease and what
belonged to the government, and If Mr.. Herbert had not sue
Snrui,ure if he had Wished, and / have no doubt would have
realized well. The Minister is to be blamed, not Mr.. Herbert,
he only did what a sharp business man would have done. L
have done with this matter; we have heard enough Of il; the
government loses SIS, 200 per annum by the proceeding. A re-
RESOLUTION of want Of confidence was introduced last session Of
the Legislature for much smaller reason than we now have,
and supported by some Of the ablest men in the country. The
reasons we now have | say fully warrant this House in pass
ing this resolution.
The Attorney General this morning has spoken Of members
sneaking of motives of others, and throwing out insinuaiions.
his speeches all through this session have been full Of such
fIinqs: thew have teemed with insinuations as TO motives Of
others: he should have been the last one TO speak Of il.
IL has been said that the deficiency in the land Office might
be accounted for by Royal Patents that are now in the Cover
nor's offices in the other islands If there were a hundred
ROYAL Patents there it would make no difference, for this de-
fciency is in the cash absolutely received by the clerks, as
shown by the Interior Department books and unaccounted for.
to this House, the Ministry say they want more proof; can any
one doubt it coming from such a cool and collected man as the
Hon. Nobel lift were not so, he would not have dared to
come into this House and speak fit. No Mr. Chairman, a Min
istry that could insult His Majesty and show such want Of
respect for him, can not be expected to have much respect for
public interests.
And now, Mr.. Chairman. let me say a few words in closing
TO the Hon. Dir. Kauai. He has gone back on his party, he
has tried to give reasons for il, but has given none. He was
Of the staunchest supporters Of the party, and 1 can't un-
derstapd it.. / now ask him to come back to his standard 1.-THE
standard). We will take him back; il is not too
late for him TO redeem himself. We are ready to receive him.
His ExceIlency the Minister Of Interior said: At this late
hour. and when every member has made up his mind as to