Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-06-24

the Stand--.Hard Swearing to PROTECT
Pirate Sherman, but His Share in the
Weber-Anderson Bribery Very Clearly
Brought Out---The Guaranty Written In
the Presence Of the Visiting Statesmen
and Signed John sherrnan"---Ihe Tell
Tale Document Now Reported Safe In
the "Archives."
WASHINGTON, June 22.-The Potter commit
stated that he would be absent in case Senator
Matthews desired to testify, having seen a pub
LEGATION saying the reason that Matthews did
not appear was his fear of being insulted by
him, Butler.
ALL SERENE.
MIR. McMahon explained that in his passage
with Mr.. Reed yesterday, he had not intended
to reflect upon that gsntleman's veracity, and
reports in papers to that effect were mistaken.
Mr.. Reed explained he had not understood
Mcmahon had made any such reflection, and
that what the newspapers had published in re-
gard to the matter
Capt. Thomas jerks was further cross-exam.
ined by Mr.. Mcmahon, and stated that he was
positive he never heard of the so-called Sher-
man letter till it was mentioned by Pitkin, he
thought, on the sixth of July, or about that
time.
Considerable time was consumed in examina-
ton regarding the visit of Mrs. jerks to Wash
ington. The witness stated that he paid his
wife's expenses to Washington. She came at
the instance of Gov. Kellogg. Anderson, it
was understood, mad certain documents which
Kellogg desired to get, and Mrs. jerks was here
for that purpose, having received letter from
Kellogg to come.
Con. Butler examined the witness concern
ing the letters of Anderson to Witness request
ing him to obtain the letter, the document,
etc.. meaning the so-called Sherman letter, and
assuring him if be could do his fort1n ne
could be made. Witness disclaimed knowing
anything of the letter or document Anderson
referred to.
Butler-Now do you say there was no docu-
ment which by securing,
YOU COULD MAKE YOUR FORTUNE?
That you did not have some curiosity as to
what the document was!
A. had written Anderson for descrlpt ion
of the document but had no idea what the
document was
Butler inquired of witness if his wife had
never asked him what the document that was
going to make their fortune contained.
Witness-She may have but l do not remem-
Der it in SO many words.
@. II she did ask you what did you reply?
A. That l knew nothing about it.
Continuing, the witness said Anderson had
never offered him $1,000, but had written,
stating that the document was worth 81, 1000.
@. Was not the offer of a
THOUSAND DOLLARS
made to you for the document in question be-
fore your wife went to Donaldsonville?
A. No, sir. Anderson had informed me
certain Democrats would pay that amount fol
the document. Witness further said he had
never authorized his wife to pay Weber any
thing to produce the letter. She had never
told him she had done so. He had seen it pub
lished in the newspapers that his wife had the
so-called Sherman letter, but she had told him
the statement Was not true. Witness never had
any intimation that his wife knew ythine
about the Sherman document.
Butler asked witness if he was not aware of
the fact that his wife wrote Kellogg first in
stead Of vice versa, and he replied that he was
not,
MRS. jerks,
wife of the previous witness, was sworn, and
testified that Anderson had written her from
Philadelphia in relation to document ht
wanted.
@. What document was it Anderson
wanted?
A. He wanted the document that he callec
the Sherman letter.
@. Did you not know of that document be-
fore january?
A. No sir. Because he wrote the letter in
1877, that he wanted the document of tho
DEAD BEATS
Il use his language) who came to Louislan;
to see fair count, had given him. He did mo-
exactly know who the dead beats" were but
l always thought in my mind he meant the
McVeigh commission. That is what l thought
he wanted. uaughter.)
Q. Did you know, or believe there was sucl
till last January?
A. might have known about it, but I die
not think about it. If had thought about i
might have known about it. l knew ther
was such document said to exist at the time
Q. Did you know where it was?
A. l did not know the exact place of it.
O. Did you ever see it?
A. I did see document
Q. Where did you see it?
A. saw it at almost any place looked.
@. Why. Did you have it?
A. Not exactly. No, no. do not think
ever had it to remain permanently in my
possession. It might have been in my possess
ion very few minutes, but not for an,
length of time
Q. Who let you take it?
A. I did not ask anybody's permission, be-
cause had it. It might have been handed
over to another party during that few minutes
and had it as a matter Of first principle.
will say it got in my hands
Q. But who gave 1t to you,-handed it t.
you. or put you in possession Of it in any Wa.
or form?
A. No one.
@. Then how did you get it?
A. Oh -ery readily. l just lifted it up of
the table you know.
O. WE'LL who was present in parlor P, st
Charles hotel, when you picked it up?
A. There were several there, some of the
VISITING STATESMEN
discussing the returning board, pro and con
which was to meet that day.
@. You do not mean the McVeagh commits
sion now?
A. No; that was long afterward.
@. What did you do with the document at
ter you took it?
A. I presented it to the person who require,
it. gave it to Dan Weber. If you want t.
know, handed it to him at the ladies' entranc
of the st. Charles hotel. I had a note from
him, and he must have expected it. l me
Weber at the st. Charles and had little con
versation with him. and then went up stairs il
the St. Charles hotel and shortly afterward
went into parlor P.
@. Did you take up any document with yo'
which you handed to anybody in that room?
A. Il had little note.
@. Who did you get that note from?
A. Well, now, that is a direct question.
don't know exactly the right you have to kno1
it. Before answering your question may sa,
something?
Mr.. Enthusiastically.
Witness-Well wish to state in the presenc
of this august committee and to the country a
large, that l distinctly and entirely exonerat
Mr.. Secretary Sherman from any completely di
rect or indirect in the sc-called Anderson-Web
guaranty. If there is criminality in the docu
nent
POLITICAL D1sHoNoR ATTACHED TO IT,