The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-07-26
THE LAST DAY.
All ABOUT TEE woRmbEX CONPER-
ENGE.

Hs
Testify.
The Congressional subcommittee met yes
sardav morning at about 1O:15 o'clock, but 1t
.waa fuilv II 100 before the fret witness.
HoN. e. JOHN ELLIS
..a,nhar nj Congress, was called and placed on
~ Aha atand, His testimony was as follows:
by MFR. Blackburn
Questionable. Ellis, you are member Oh
Congress2
AnswerYes, cir.
O,-You resided in Washington City during
Che session of 1s7G-772
As-Yes sir.
D.-T3e kind enough TO state all you know
about the Wormley conference.
AL was In constant communication WIN the
representatives Of Louisiana and the accfeolI-
ed agent of the Nichols government. MAJOR H.
A. Burke We entertained the deepest anxiety
about this State and South Carolina ana we
hoped that the policy of Tilden would Tree THESE
States from the misgovernment by when they
had haan eursed. On the sixteenth of Februa-
~ the I,onisiapa case was decided by the cleo
foral commission and on the seventeenth the
Democrats held a caucus. and It was agreed
that the electoral count should proceed. 1t was
shen agreed BY the Southern members that we
tynuld look out for Southern interests. and IT
saIief for Louisiana and South Carolina was
not guaranteed we would disregard the deci-
aion not TO glIbuster arrived at by the CAUCUS
On the evening OF the twentieth. the evening, o.
4he day Foster made his speech, the twentieth
shink III Svae Mr.. Lamar sent for me and went
IA tnId me lie tb ough | had better see Stanley
Matthews that Matthews had said that roster
speech, delivered In the House, " as not strong
enough that II he had made 1t he would nave
made II much stronger; that he would have
said that Hayes wo uld have
NOTHING 10 DO WITH PACKARD OR CHAMBERLAIN.
Mr.. Lamar thought should see Matthews or
20 to 0qInmbns 0hio; enc t see nnfeaa W was
nroperiy authorized and had q certificate from
Gov. Nichols authorizing me to represent MIN
in the interview | telegraphed GOV. ElchQlls
what MIR, Matthews had said and what Mr.. La
mar advised, and ! received in reply q dispatch
which delermined me not 70 20 any tur nb; Il
sent for Major Burke. and told him ABOUT 1T
and be went of. In an hour he came back and
said he had made arrangements for meeting
OF the friends Of Mr. Hayes and Southern RED
resentatives at NormleyE, for the next day,
The next day wentto
THE MEETING.
inviting and taking Mr.. Watterson; There were
present at the meeting. so far % ! rememDer'
Measrs WEtterson. Matthews, Dennts0n, Gar
field Sherman, Foster, Burke and myself. we
had an informal congregation az the start, ana
then we proceeded to discuss the SITUATION III
regard to the two States. Stanley MattneNs
naked me the reason of the ilibusterinR and |
told him that II was oocasioned by doubts of the
policy Of Hayes toward the Southern States, and
a hs ash pSpeF e wEcR vs be lev Ye
pressed Inc views and sentiments Of Hayes.
The article led us TO helteye that bayonet-rule
would be continued. Mr.. Matthews then went
into q lengthy review of the Southern situation.
He said that while he was not authorized TO
speak for Hayes he was familiar enough with
him and his view to indicate his policy Mr.,
Matthews said that he was willing to give the
governments to the people and was tired OF
hayonet rule aud the constant turmoil and as
cord resulting from IT, and he thought Mr..
Hayes sentiments correeponded with his he
showed me an photographic letter from Mr..
Hayes to Gov. Dennison. indicating that the
course he would pursue would correspond with
the views expressed. ,,- -,
Q.-Atter that statement hHd been made, did
yDu suggest any difficulties as to the way IN
which the governments were to be got ipto the
A.-Yes, cir; III come to that.
A-Well. after thIs turned to Senator f5h ~
man and said, YOU are closely e2nnected VIII
M h and h T repeS tBat bis views we're bost
expressed by Mr.. Matthews. turned TO Mr.
Matthews and ssid nat N Sd 12s snd Nav Msvet
could be seated; that the votes for both must DC
counted the same way. He replied that they
C nf SnS 99obey Gs BY the
paying people and
PACKARD WOULD sTARvE TO DEATH,
and when the time came TO recognize govern
rnent there would be but one, with no other OF
only shadow of one in existence. Matthews
said that It must be guaranteed that there
would be no prosecution for past political Of
lenses, no violence, and that black ana Whlt e.
without regard TO color, must be protected IL
have an impression that Major Burke, reat
n naper defining the policy Of the Nichols
tyoyernment. It was in substance the same al
afterwards embodied in a set OF Resolutions
passed by the Nichols Legislature. Alter thls
said would go to my friends and say that the
time for illibustering had ceased that pre-
ferred TO see Hayes seated under the electora
count than to see Morton Ia me ena tho i G9
view to Col. Levy. and also told him the line
proposed to pursue, He said all right, and In
dorsed IL. Mr. Gibson was sick, but informed
him, and he said that he was satisfied and pro
posed that enc Of us should make speech o.
the subject, Col, Levy was selected to make tn
O.-Was the discrimination to cease filibuster
ing arrived at because 1t was insisted on by an
one in the conferencep
A,-No, sir There Yves
NO sEMBLANoE OF A BARGAIN
Ai all. Their object seemed to be to remov
from our minds our anxiety about the polio
CT You had any conversation with Ger
Grant about his probable action please relat
them and also the conclusions reached by min
Al had 4 conversation with Gen Grant afte
this He told me that he had concluded to WITT
draw the troops; he told me and Levy, , ana
draw them, and on the day after the completln
the count he did. suppose in the course
ar 'annarY s WAS SS with 4
tact at the end that Gen Grant, a man we hs
reason to fear, a man quiet and tactturI
finally suggested the course for the people
this state to pursue.
Dwell what suggestion did he maker
Ale said there must be no violation OF LAY
and portrayed to US the difficult position,
which he would be placed in the event OF q
turbance and bloodshed. There was anoth
proposition on which he made suggestive
He was asked II the payment OF taxes to Il
Nichols government would be construed
him as a violation of the status quoP -, !
laughed and said, II will illustrate bya lit
anec1ote There was an 1rtshman once we
into a drug store and called for soda wa er, al
he was asked If he would have any whisky in
He said no; that he had signed the plt dge b
that II there wa, some put in unbeknownst
him he would not object" meaning that tax
might be paid in a quiet way and he not knt
Dwell, we're there any other suggestions
A.-Well, I don't know that remember a
more now. There is a man there (pointing
Major Z A. Burkel, he knows all about the
and can give you the history OF all the dlplom
ia interviews held in relation to the matter; -,
Dwell then, at the end you understood u
Grants policy was the same as that OF hayes
A-Yes. sir: and it was the policy he wo5
have iuaugurated II ne nau not H6ei2 tatFsae
damaging and hampertng his successor
By MIR. Cox.