New-York tribune., 1878-07-25
WEBER FLATLY CoNTRADICTED.
TUE GENERAL TENOR or THE TESTIMONY OF tn
VISITING STATESMEN DESTRUCTIVE OF WEI

VISITING STATESMEN DESTRUCTIVE or WEB
BER's AssERTIoNs-1HE TESTIMONY IN DEIAIL.
GENERAL PRESS DIsPATCH.l
ATLANTIC CITY, y. j.. July 24.-The Pot
ter Committee called Representative Kelley witness
this morning the examination beng conducted by Rep
resenta-iye HScock. lie testified as follows:
President Grant while in Philadelphia on the 10th Of
November, 1876, participating IN the c">n- ceTcinontS
of the Exposition, spn fOrme went into the auditorium
where found President Grant surrounded ny G%iS'hI %
gushcd gentlemen. President Grant pr0noSed maj
should visit NcW-OrcauS 10 with - the dCoh OF tht Ike
turning Board At first declined, but the President sad
that number OF prominent gentlemen OF the Demo-
Tn. was owing to the fact that my conduct was lnd
pendent. aud tuat sume mes kicked ~ the traces;
was merely to Eew-Orleans as lo"kcr-nn, aud to
] see Il 6 m sVtrfidn Win any one bnf Prrdcnt
myself IN company wIth Secretary ShcrInan ana on
arriving at Ncw-O. leans found there number
81 visiting gentlemen, Republican III ponies
There was nothing in tic purpose or instructions OF me
Republican Committee to indicate any course which
should he pursued by the Cuvassing BOar0 to what
votes should be counted as 10 means of mtimida
fhng as mtcrlereuc, with the ,fc.al dudcs Of the
board it would have been tresccrous to his associates
nor dia ncar, any suoorduatc officer supervisor
Of elections lntclcrcd with II there was such IN
teIletencc was aslI"IEcf 10 II, dIu not nay Nv"
unur cs' conversation with any member OF the Return
fore that have doubt that frauds were practlsed on
both sides, tna if just returns were madc' thcy
Representative Hi>cock called the attention or the
wnc,, 10 the testimony Of h. l. Webbcr in winch lac
SAID that the wishing statesmen went so a. To advise
,Gr ECInrning Board to stretch tie already arbitrary
,.,s ,rjrI II ma and t,a' On tbc 2Ttb of November
the Returning Board had finished ITS count and had
elected Packard ana he njUity OF the legislature ana
sv EnYunEcIn Electors and Two Democratic electors,
ana tnat hs was communicated 10 the visiting states
men. influenced the board TO reopen ana change the
REPRESENTATIVE Kelley stigmatzed this statement
false whole and M part Tuele was no basis he sald
s,crtiol he had never heard 0i any coHYc
.aiiou on that subject alleging that point had been
reached 3ak ne RECOUNT H,ceS,Ty TO give I giL, q"
tie lrcSd'nta electors 10 the hcpnhHcahs ic wines,
ual Cousut OI ever having seen NCb1cr Wine
the visiting delegation "cc4ptd Punc piIiof at l,e
holrl Anderson ana Mtupti may nav -! ~
among others; Senator SDcrmau scent very ujtc time
there; he either m his own roomo III hr StOushiOns
room attending his private business, Senator shcr-
man to the Custom House IN ne couIce OF
,ton He saId hc believed her statement at The time 1t
was made and believed II to-day. He spoke of tie
affair. IN Mrrcnuu>c Parish 80 desperate mat the
planters themselves organized 10 guard their cOOred
iabOrc:s from tne attacks OF .ue reguajeIs.
EeDrc>rnt9tlVc SpDn-cr-Hayc yOu read any other
evidence concerning MOrehouse Pai IN than that fur.
O-Arc YOU moi aware of ;nc fact 2Il witnesses,
whose testimony had been taken 10y Inc Democratic
counsel submitted 10 the Returning Board all S"oic
tuat the election IL MuIehouae Pdllsh was perfectly
far and pc eeIoe, ana 'tr ron threats, Intimidation
OIL such evidence nd been brought TO your kno"l-
edge aud your mind lad been satisfied OF the tIuh oI 1t.
then your opinion would nave Dr,h GiH'Ith, A-lH'h
NY conc u,on would have l"Ilen to the ground
MIR. PARKER ALSO COMPUTE, WEBBER.
Courtlndt Parker was next examined by Rcpresenta-
tive Hi-cocl He confirmed generally the testimony of
Representative Kelley and sud ne had never heard Of
ANYTHING TO iuyudato the vety o the protest, that
Anderson desired to withdraw it, lie also characterized
al, false the allegation Of Webbsr trat the visiting states
men induced the Returning Board to reopen and revise
the returns in favor of the X .Vublicans.
The witness justified the throwing out Of the vote OF
Eas, r. ciaua the ground Of intimidation and said
that senator sherman carefully avoided any interference
or conversation with members the Returning Board.
An the visiting Republicans, be said did the thing
except one day when Eliza Pnkson was produced be
lore the board lie not certain however, tna Sen
ator sherman was present that occasion The witness
had never him in conversation with member of
the Returning Board, or heard that he had been.
The witness further examined by Representatives
Potter Springer and Butler but nothing Of special i'm
pOrtance was ELECTED.
A FEW QUESTIONS BY BUTLER.
REPRESENTATIVE Hale testified that al the Republican
visitors maintained the position that they should be
careful abstain from attcmpted influence on the
Returning Board far he knew, this principle
tricly carried out; he did not know Of Senator sher
man having in secret consultation outside Of his
own immediate associates II such letter the Sher-
man letter written h0 thought from his intimacy
with senator Sherman thai he would have heard OF the
fact, Tue testimony OF Weber about the visiting Re
pubcaus influencing tle action Of the Returning Board
was false.
Messing the action the Returning Board did you see
TI5'sideEt, Packard was not elected Goycrnori ~.
u,ds as Iec,ed President PACKARD was elected
| Governor thought botn wcro elected.
| Mr.. Butler-Tnat is all want 10 know
Representative DanfOrd recalled. General Butler
asked the witrss whether there any doubt that II
the Hayes electors were elected Packard elected
Governor Louisiana. Representative Danford replied
| that there not
MAN WHO SAW THE SHERMAN LETTER.
ExCOugressInan Hale Sypher, OF New Orleans where
nc mas resided for fourteen years, examined by
! Chairman Potter lie testified as follows:
! | tfu gIErlDbcau uriuriple [ c time the Re
publican visitors went 10 Louisiana met ID. \. Wcp5cr
supervisor of Elections, the entrance 10 the Custom
Ijon-e on Cinalsl. MI Webb-r asked me Can take
the promise of gentlemen vino here 10 provide Tor
| me il am driven out OF my paISnT' said IN rcp'y.
| whom do you mean 2" Wtbber mentioned Matthews
sherman spccaliy then SAID " Iursr grntcin.H
sand closely the incoming President per naly
| ana pOHucaIlY, and l think YOU can trust Them
Wcbb.r remarked that ne had been deceived a good
many limc ana therefore rs he ana not fctl IKE TAX
| ug any mau's verbal promise, he Wo1id demand
promise in writing. said thai the only way. The
next day again met Meobcr, VINO eNhlDlrd IetirI
which read. and then returned 10 him. NcObcr nude
no special remark but appeared 10 be pleased with iho
/ nav. scli Mr suermau's handwriting, and wout not
testify that The letter was in Nj Sherman Eand"rt
lngi bni mere Is h9'HihE I" H,L. me ,uH " nS Hot
his handwriting. presume ~ was MS cannot give
the purport but to Published letter. thc original OF
bich hastily read. seemed 10 be Substantially correct
Eeprcscntatiye Hiscock closely cross-examIned The
witness at length syphCr said ho had feen the Official
signature OF Mr. Sherman bur could not any par
tcuar document, nor would Le swear that the sigma
ture 10 the letter Webber had shown him was Rcnu
The witness was GsKCd Wuc' ner ne ala not know al
brother j. r. sypher, here present WAS tc legal adviser
OF James h. Andersen. witness Sald ne knew his OJ
from newspaper report
SECRETARY sHERMAN's TESTIMONY.
Secretary Sherman made statement that be Is now
Secretary OF Treasury bat in November 1876, was
Senator Of the United States. lie was invited by Prcs
dent Grant by telegram, In terms something Ike the
folowing " would DO gratihed If you would 20 TO
Orleans to witness the count" AT first he declined
IN 70 but a second telegram received from Pres
dent Grant SAYING, think 10 important for you TO
20 . but he dd not 20 m tho WednesdnY aiter. On his
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