The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-08-01

"ihey evidently had not in any way reiinauished
what they call their great idea, and your iordships
does not reach AS far as Constantnopie. But they
did mention that as practical men, feeling that
hey had no chance al this moment OF obtaining all
that they desired they were wirs AS an nsiaiment,
10 accept two large Provinces Epiras and Thessaly.
i was quite evident to tho Congress tha,
the representatives Of Greece utterly mis-
understood the object OF deliberations We were
not tnere, as they thought we we're, to partition
Turkey and TO give them their share Of Turkey; we
were there for very contrary purpose to establish
Us far as we could The domlaions OF tho Sultan on
rational basis, TO condense and concentrate his
authority, and TO take that opportunity OF which we
largely awaited ourselves OF ameioraiing the condi-
ton OF bis subjects"
TIE GREEKS.
LORD Beacons1ed then goes 10 say, at some
length, that negotiations opened with Turkey ana
that the Turkish governnient had agreed to rectfy
tho Greek frontiers out that the Greeks did not re-
spond with that sympathy which could navc been
desired. Their idcas altogether extIavaaant.
Lord Beaconsdeid concluded this part oil his speech
with tho words:-'Greecs has future. That
cannot be SAID Of every country, and / would
say 10 Greece what would say 10 individual
THIS called forta hearty cheers ana laughter.
This will no doubt be very pleasant advice to tho
than The acquisition OF the two provinces winch
Greek IN character and nationality The thought Of
beng SO Intimately associated with thor history as
people. 1t was TO the Greeks That Lord Bsaconsled
gave gave promises not many months ago to chord
arranged that the English and Greek armies
should join with Roumap,a aud Turkey against Rus
sla, ana that Greece should pave as her reward tho
two provinces coveted. But tho danger passed. ana
my LORD Beaconsneld forsers his promises. This
probably the weakest portion oil Lora Boaconsfea's
speech, Even his warmest supporters moth
ing in favor OF his discardng OF the Greek question
the only Greeks will probably give 10 this
treatment will he TO form friendship with Russia
Tho tcesrams from Athens speak OF the greatest
excitement prevailing not only In Greece ITSELF but
IN the Two provinces ol Epirus and Thsssaly, aud it
IS FULLY expected mat she will endeavor
what was refused ner ny the Congress Lord Bea-
I'M hoft OUtc Ina
MA and Herzegovina 10 the CROWN. neighUor, Aus
tris, thus consolidating tho Turkish power into
moro central position, aDd yet he rciutes his
gumcnt IN refusing 10 give these two Crock provinces
TO the country 70 which they naturally belong
t. EARL GRANvILLE's CRITICISM.
Earl Granvilles structures on the portion Of
Beaconsneld's speech wherein he speaks OF
Greece Greece Is very much TO the point lie SAYS
agreed to give large portlons OF Turkish terri
tory, to other Powers. ana rejected me claims
most intelligent people in tue East-put forward the
Greeks, thius, not unnaturaliy complain that the
government OF this country misled ana betrayed
thenn When they read the report oil the noble Ears
speech and his advice to them 10 be patient they will
probably say, thai Is exactly the ADVICE which you
gave daring tho progress Of the war; and IL Is in
consequences OF our having followed that advice that
we now nd ourselves placed in position less favor
able Than would Otherwise have been the ~
b A4i sis. THE PnEsEyT POSITION TURKEY
Lord Beaconsheid coniinusd:-"wnat then Is the
3 present position OF Turkeyf Not counting Kouman
or Servia, not even counting tho Bulgaria and
omtuing Bosnia. European Turkey still remains u
q
population OF 5000 O00 ana that population very
great degree concentrated aud condensed the
said when the line OF the Balkans was carrisd-m was
carried alter long ana agitatng discussi0ns-it
SAID BY that iiiustrous who presided over
our labors that Turkey IN Europe exists.
III these results hud been tho consequences Of long
war, II they had been the results OF struggle ike
thar We underwent IN the Crmea do not think they
would have been even then ulsubs tautal unsatis
factory. And IL there mas been some ex
penditure Il has been expenditure which at least
country. Had you entered into that war for which
month you would nave exceeded the whole cxpendi.
ture you have now incurred
The Premier then proceeded speak Of Asiatic Tur-
Key Tho population, he said winch yielded to Rus
sa ny Turkey amounted 10 only about 300, 700
But although The amount OF population not con-
was Of q very different character. They Obtained
Kars BY conquest they obtained Ardahan.
adjoining terrtory-towns Tho great CONNER
cia routes IN that part Of the world; they also OBJ
toned retention by Russia of Kars and Ba, cum
"rhreo tines SAID Lord Beaconsfed, "has Russia
or by other influences has been restored Turkey.
Were We TO go to war Tor Kars and restore Tur-
KEY, and then to wait till the next Misunderstanding
between Russia ana Turkey, when Kars would have
boon taken agalnf Was that an occasion Of n cdsus
ketttS do not thiak your lordshps would sane.
ton War carried on Tor such object and In such
circumstances" Turning then TO Batoum His Lord
ship made the first and only attempt IN the OF
his long speech 10 RAISE laugh .sBut let US Sc he
said. what is this Bsioum Of which YOU nave heard
80 much IL Is generally spoken OF In society and the
world as II IL wore sort OF Portsmouth, whereas It
should rather be compared with COwes. II will hold
three considerable ships, and II IL were packed like
the London Docks II might hold six but in that ease
the danger II the wind blew from the north would be
immensen
THE ANGLO TURKISH ALLIAycR
About the handing over Ot Bessarabia TO Russia
Lord Beaconsheld said nothing, and the secret en-
gagement with Turkey he passed over without notice
He dld not even say much about cyprus and pro-
tee crate Of ASIA Minor and he declined altogether
give details as to the manner in which that
ate is TO be exercised His words with reference to
the convention are noteworthy 1--WE have, no says,
'entersd into an aianco--a defensive alliance with
Turkey 70 guard her against any further attack from
Russia. We believe that the convention
will bo order ana tranquility. And then IL will DO
for Europc-ior We ask for privileges or CON-
rnercaI advsntagcs-it viii then be for Eurooe 70
assist England In awaiting ourselves OF the wealth
which has been so long glocled and undeveloped In
regious once SO fertile and so favored We are told,
as have said before that VIC are undertaking great
responsibilities From those respons ibitics do
not shrink. We tbnk that with prudence ana discre-
ton We shall bring about state OF affairs ms adva
tagcous for Europe for ourselves And IN that
vicion we cannot bring ourselves TO believe that the
act which we have recommended Is one that leads to
trouble and to warfare" lie then continued: III am
cure there will be no Jealousy between England and
France upon this subject In taking Cyprus tho
ment Is not Mediterranean; IL Is English. We have
taken step there which think necessary for the
maintenance OF our Empire aud Tor Its
peace. III that be our lrst consideration our noxt
Is The development OF tho country" In concluding
his long speech Lord Bcacousneld said respecting
Occupation OF Cyprus:--ssMy Lords 1 have now laid
before Won The general ouiine of tho no,cr thst we
have pursued both in the Congress OF Berlin aud at
Consianinople. They are intimately connected with
each other, and they must be considered together l
only bopo that tho House Will not misundorstand--
and think the country viii not misunderstand--ou
motives In occupying Cyprus aud In encour-
aging those intimate relations with the gov
eminent and the population OF Turkey.
They are not movements Of war; they
are operations Of peace and OF civilization
We have no reason TO fear war Her Majesty has
fleets aud armies which second to none. England
must have seen with PRIDE the Mediterranean covered
with her ships; she most have seen with pride Tho
discipline sud devotion which have been shown TO
her and her government by Nil her troops OF every
nation, from wherever they have come. tssHear
boar ~ leave 10 to the iustrous Duke bear wit.
ness 10 the spirit OF imperial patriotism which has
been exhibited ny the troops from lndia which hs
recently reviewed at Malta (Cheersl But II is not
on our fleets and armies however necessary they may
be Tor tho maintenance Of our imperial strength that
alone or manly depend In that enterprise on which
this country Is about to enter. II rs what ost
highly valuc-ihe consciousness that In The Eastern
nations there confidence this COUNTRY and Tint