The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-04-05
SENATORS WHO DON'T AGREE
STANLEY MATTHEW'S PANIED ny ALLU-
SIONs TO JAY GOULD'S LOBBY.
Thurman Arraiened for Communism-vhyM Mr..
CcDkiing will Not support the Judiciary
Committees Bni-Exit Doorkceper Polk.

| Thurman Arraigued for Communists -why MIR.
Copkiing win Not support the Judiciary
| Committees Hni-Exit Doorkcepe Polk.
WASHINGTON April An the Senate Mr..
| Matthews rep. Ohiol presented memorial Of
| citizens OF Arizona demonstrating against any
| Government aid to the Southern Pacific Rail-
road. and in favor of aid to the Texas Pacific
| Railroad.
MIR. Morrill, rep. VT offered resolution
that n select committee be appointed to consider
| the propriety OF tnking the tenth census OF the
| United States. Agreed TO.
| On motion OF Mr.. Harris Dem. Tenn the
| Senate took UP the House bill for the relief OF
james Fishback late Collector OF Internal Rev
cnue in the Tenth Illinois District.
Mr.. Davis lind. Ill read letter stating that
Mr.. Fshback had been defaulter to the Gov
eminent. and that his bondsmen had been
required to pny 5000 on his account. He nsk-
ed that the bill DO laid over till further inquiries
could he made.
Mr.. Oglesby rep. ILL., defended the character
OF the claimant us an upright. honest. and hon
Orable man.
The bill was laid over.
Mr.. Sargent u!ep.. Call presented resolutions
Of the San Francisco Chamber Of Commerce in
favor Of an amendment to the silver act, making
the silver certificates issued by the Sub-Trens-
vryi that city redeemable in the city OF New
The Pacific Railroad Sinking Fund bill came
up ms unfinished business.
Mr.. Matthew's said that he had been panied 10
hear Mr.. Edmunds refer to the friends Of these
ent on the floor. in tho iobbes. and in the gale
res 81 whatever grain OF reality there might DO
insinuations were made unless they have spe-
enc charges to present He defended his cita
q solemn stipulation that tho net earnings OF
the roads should not be touched until the stock
holders had ,"eived dividend OF ton per cent
yet the bill of the judiciary Committee proposed
To violate that compact to the extent VI TWENTY
1ye per cent. OF the net earnings. The idea Of
Hbsolutism was not fully exploded ut this time.
munism. II asserted that the State should hold
all the railroads. all the workshops and fix tho
would have been thought unnecessary to sound
the alarm OF wolf" but 1t was here at our very
door. When these ideas came into Congress.
ton than this bill. The power Of visitation
was in no way applicable in this case. The
only visitation was the visitation OF Providence
II, the correction aud Introduction Of this bill.
Mr.; Ednnnds .hnp.. W asked Y there was
Mr.. Mauhews-Those on whom tho tower OF
SLOAN iell We're perhaps. not worse than those
MIR. Edmpnds-I do not remember the case
Mr.. Matthews went on to critlcIse the other
arguments in support Of the bill. II Congress
could enact u law providing against a possible
future Insolvency. 1t could I<ss "A law requiring
| every citizen 10 pay % Dor cent Of his Income
into the Treasury. TO be distributed to his cred
itors in the event OF his future bankruptcy. AS
TO the arrangement that might be arrived ut be-
tween the Qoyernment and these companies he
was quite Indifferent: whatever they could he
induced 70 pay. no wns DESTROYS they should
pay. ~ the Government had to lose ALL IL had
better 90 so than give its assent TO this bill
which. in effect, upset the decision Of the Su-
preme Court which determined the relation
between these parties, He would withdraw the
Bill OF the Railroad Committee. which he had
offered rs q substitute in order that there
might be direct vote ON the Judiciary Commit
Mr.. Chafree rep. COLI spoke in advocacy OF
NE substitute for the pending bin submitted 10y
nm Yesterday part OF which proposes 20
compel the main ronds TO prorate with the
branches.
Mr., Thurman, tDem,. ohiol contendcd that
the blu proposed by Mr. Chaflee and the Rail-
road Commitee's bill provided that the money
due from the roads for the five per cent. of the
net earnings and half the transportation should
form part Of the sinking fund. and required
the Government to pay interest ON money that
=, Mr.. Conkling rep. N. " took issue with
that he would not have voted, for II the pariy
thing, to-day with these corporations that he
would not do Tomorrow with the greatest favor
prompted or melted by the fact that the
.9rporations Ind made and not lost money.
again. Of tho prohts they had made and the
dividends diyided. We're they 10 withhold any
losses had followed2 He favored a proposition
that would promote the interests OF the corpo-
government were protected. 1t WAS. he said
| proposed now TO pass n new law after the two
| Houses mad agreed 10 submit 10 the arbitration
| OF the courts He had been drawn into the dis
| cuss.on against his intention. but he would say
that he would enunciatr such sentiments and
| p"trity them into law when ii was ascertancd
that there YVES no mildcr'means. without depart
ing SO far from ancient ways 10 secure the Gov
eminent against future possible loss.
MIR. Thurman said that when he could obtain
the foOr. he would try 10 explain so that even
the Senator from New York. who seemed 10
know nothing about II. could understand IT,
Mr. Dorsey rep. Ark. offered resolution
requesting the House TO return the bill relating
10 the Hot Springs reservation. which passed
tn. Senate on March 3. Agreed TO-
Mr.. Thurman argued that the right To- alter
and amend reserved in the Pacific Railroad
acts was valid and operative at this time: that
the decision 81 the Supreme Court applied 10
the law rs II stool at the time the decision was
rendered. and that IL had no bearing upon
law that might thereafter DO enacted.
Mr.. Blaine asked at what point the power to
amend stopped.
Mr.. Thurman said he would not answer hypo-
thetcal questions. Life was too short to stand
w here and be catechsed like the ancient dia-
leottcans. He was plain. practical man. lie
would put a question. and the Senator from
Did he deny the right OF Congress to require
these corporations to provide sinking f.nu 20
meet their obligations to the Government
Mr.; Hill tDem., Gal said that there was no
legislative Tower TO compel u railroad to pay
It's debts The railroad was not incorporated
To pay it, debts. but to carry freight and pas
senRers The courts We're the proper authori-
ties to compel II TO pay its debts.
Tho Senate adjourned.
House OF Representatives.