The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-10

pon no became against the Jausenis,s, were real.
general laws, promulgated IN due form. :
THE VATICAN WOULD HAVE DONE WILL TO FOLLOW
Would to God that the Vatican Council had followed
out the system OF Fenelon and taken II as basis ior
dogmatc dehnitioni IL would thereby have advanced
the cause oil theological science and destroyed forever
the sophsm which maintains that extraordinary con-
stituiions, to which the Pope requires immediote
obeaience under penalty OF being cut OIL from lne
Church, renal IN suspense until tho assent 0! me
dispersed epscopate Is given and made manifest.
This is the weak side or GaIlicanism The Jansens's
used It as plea for rebellion; they halted waiting
tor the OF the bishops OF the universe Feneon
Tointed out the danger. Considering the assistance
God mas PROMISED the HOLY SEQ VIC cannon suppose
that IT can fall into error when proceeding u Inc
ponitude OF powcr IL renders solemn definition. the
penalty OF whose violation consists III cutting on from
the communion OF the Church.
VATICAN COUNCIL NOT PRECISE
Tho Vatican Council could have rendered deh-
milton IN tho sense VIC have described. The bold
ness displayed by me Jansenists in making OF
certain Gacan doctrines certaiply deserved express
condemnatson. Tho Vatican Council unfortunately did
not exhibit tho talent II might have exhibited IN
forming Its definition with that degree Of precision
required TO formulate clearly point OF doctrine In
why doctrnal decree, rendered in due positive form,
should remain In suspense until rathed. The ultra
montanes MADE the mistake they blamed IN the GALL
GENERAL COUNCILS ASD THE roPE's APPROVAL.
general council convened W Inc Pope and pre-
sided by his ieaates ronders dogmatic decsion
TO which bishops aud legates agree. The decree 10
published in public session and no one waits Tor the
Pope's ailcaIion. Provincial COUNCILS can publish
their decisions only after thay have been submitted 10
the Holy sec A Jortori, does u seem necessary 10
the PDpes revi0us approval when there Is ques
ton OF soemniy promulcat dogma.c definitions Of
ecumenical couneiis History, however. proves that
general councils promulgated their dogmatc acts
without waiting the Papal sanction, and not only
promuigat HON but put them into execution.
NICE, EPHKsUs, CHALcEDoy.
The Council OF Nice did not walt the approval OF
Pope ST. Sylvester 10 condeinn the Aran bishops In
the second General Council Theodosius the Great gave
Immediately the constitution relating TO the
MaccGonians The samc thing TOOK place AT Ephesus
and Chalcedon. Long before the Holy Secs ratinca-
allies for violation had been executed. The Coun-
Gil oil Constance did not wait the eiectQn OF Pope
Martin " 10 proceed against John Huss ard Jerome
OF Prague.
EcuMrMcAL COUNCILS ASb rArAL LEcArEs.
Do ecumenicai councils presided over by iegates OF
the Holy see possess intaibty on account oil divine
asssianceI Are their dogmatlc decisions irreiorm-
able previous 10 their sanction by the Holy see, as
by the Icgates? Is one obliged to give as
lath TO creed TO definitions OF gcasral coun-
cs, which have yet received the formal approval
OF the Holy See?
uLrRAMoSrAxE DOCTRINE.
Modern uitramontsnes say that mere outward sub
mission is required SO long as the Holy See has not
approved, thereby applying 10 general council the
same system the Gaiiicans have advocated against
poniihcal constitutions. Does not outward submission
-Ss TESTIMONY OF nIsrosY.
History gives the lie 10 all these different paradoxcs
mentioned which was ever ulled oy tho Holy SEQ.
On the other hand, no dogmatic bull <soemnly pro-
mngated as general law IN the fulness OIL pontlcal
power and with penalties attached has ever boon
signullzsd containing doctrnaI error. Thus it Is
that The dogmatlc power OF general councils nnd the
prerogatlves OF the Holy SEQ blend harmoniously. In
the nth century Pope ST. Colcstine, alter bref ex-
animation OF tho noctrne, condemned Nestorianisn.
The Council Of Ephesus did the rest. In 1919 Leo
condemned certain propositions OF Luther, and though
lao certainly mado no mistake IN pointing them out,
yet the doxmatc bull no Issued Is lar from rejecting
the clear light displayed by the doctrnal expeditions
and dogmatc cinons OF the Council OF Ireut
OPINION JuRIsCoSsULTs on COUNCIL
AND THE LEGAL CHARACTER OF ITS ACTS
The uoCirlnal drh nious OF general councils arc
reiormabie when sne proceedings OF those councils
nave been carried Out according 10 Tue rules LAID
OLD one Tor Martin W. IN l4lS used II regard the
acts Of Inc Council OF Consance he ratined all that
the Council had done c0Rcittdrterthat 49, In general,
public formal sessions; he did not ratiiy, however,
the private committees different nation.
ates The Pops, therefore. approved q the deposit
the full power the Council arIogated 10 ITSELF with
view 10 end the great schsm
vIsCOSTI, THE CARDINAL OF LORRAINE AND CHARLES
BoKRoMEo
Al the Council OF Trent there was Interchange OF
thought between eminont men conccrniug The re-
spoctlvc ehts Of the Counci aud the Roman Ponua.
The prslate viscont Nuncio OF his Holiness Plus W.,
satlon with the CardinaI OF Lorraine Archbishop OF
Rheims. or this conversation he gave AN account 70
81 CHARLES Borroneo who was ~ maj time Secretary
ence puOshed IN tue Misceitdned, edited NY the
learned Mans Archbishop OF Luccs, IN 1902 t. ., p
474t Although tho Cardinal had studied ut the Sor-
bonnie, IN Paris, an institution which carefully pre-
served the maxns Of the Council OF Constance, yet
he Recognizes ropes right TO indirectly annuI the
dogmato DEGREES Of general council BY declaring the
proceedings vi tho Council irregular by declaring that
the Council has not acted concariter N accordance
ter, dated June ~, l563:-"rhe Cardinal Of
Lorraine. speaking Of tho authority Of the
30 make princes more SUBMISSIVE to The Holy
SEQ IL might % usofQi ~ this time come - soma
sAt OF general oousos He h.d gwen nis op,Slon 70
me legates he had promised convey In writing TO
Aonsignor the Cardinal Aorono 10 wnon he wrote IN
SUBSTANCE AS folows:-whsn tho Council Is convoked
by the Pope ana hts lesatss preside at II HIS Holiness
IL obliged, undcr penalty Of anatbema, TO obey the de-
Council regard TO matters OF iaith
cerning which tue Council cannot be deceived. THIS
eminent prelac declared tnat his opin6n thus ceiv
cred was the same as that OF the Sorbonne and that
DEGREES Of this KIND, IL matters Of faitn, would be
received without iurther iormay in France and
SPAN, even though they wero nos confirmed by The
judge anpul tnom BY declaring the pro-
ceedngs OF the Council Irregular. The oaIoas
Pops's ratification. uniss rules lunds In regard 10
morals, about winch tho Council being liable 10 err
the Pope's ratification was necessary. The Pope
could. however, dispense In this last instances n he
saw H. Tor the good 81 the Church. He related that
Ia thus communicating his opinion 10 the isgstes no
found them oil the same opinion. WIN the exception
oil Cardinal sim onstti, who entertained different
opinion In relation TO The Pope's approval On this
account. preYme, he has Informed Your Emlnencs
what no thought wnen Lorraine made this proposal"
LEo XIII AND HIS POWER.
Leo Kill, successor OF the frince OF tho Apostles,
invested with iull poutical Jurisdiction can there
tore declare irregular tho proceedings Of a council
not held IN conformity with traditionary rules. UP
OF the Vatican Council concerning tho Popes iniai
bility.
Plus x. AND THE PILGRIMS.
During tho last eight years OF MS life Plus TX !.
made q great many discoursos, but he never pub
Iisned any dogmatc act aud the most OF these DIS
courses were made TO pilgrims visiting Rome These
docrna discoursss are Of recent die Tor they began
In 1870, alter the PicdmDntcss took possession OF
Rome. II IL very strange that fius TX. confined
himself TO simple cscourscs since tnc day the vat-
Council gave tho decision concerning inaliibiity.
The sense and importance Of the decree may DO
judged from what mas already been stated l again
repeat that Pus TX, who was declared infaIiible
BY the vaucan Council, never, from The day Of tho
deuntioD. published any dogmatic act nor any thing
that enlightened people are apt TO consider as such.
In line, during the last eight years OF the Pontcate
OF Plus IX no dtc,rnaI encyclical. no conssloriui
aiiocutob, no briefs no Latin letter All no sysbus
relative to doctrine navo boon punished. All that 10
oxtan arc the dscoutscs Plus To .no good ladies Of
Rome and 10 the visiting piigriins.
TIM PorE NOT iSFALLIBLE IN his SPEECHES.
Now ultramontane aud Gsllicsn theologans oRree
thasthe Pope II Ia wayeni aliible dscourscs.
Every ufcia document ought necessarily 10 be writ
ten. All Roman theology denies the Pope 10 be naIli
BILE In his dIstourses. private or pubic.
FATHER rERROSE's AUTHORITY.
pcrrOne. "A rood authority IA tho Roman