The New York herald., 1878-08-18

the monarch TO pledge the and the lives OF
the people to an unlimited extent. not only without
the consent OF the nation, but even Without IT'S
knewsdes as was the case OF the recent conventisn
with Turkey.
BARGAINING AWAY THE NATIONS LIFE AND SUBSTANCE.
II these portentous claims were constitu tional
ana within tho prerogave they were not hv'
ing under the constitution which three months
ago ne supposed they were, and In his numos
opinion the constitution would have TO be Al
tered, and the prerosativs altered right speedily.
no. suffer Their subsIancs ana their lives 10
be bargained away by any Individual, however nus-
Tious 1000 or great. hear near! as wooe w ,ns
rectiy, OF tho monarchy until tnese portentous Claims
wero anthoritativey and finally swept aways, ane 'ns
pe0plo's consent, through Parliament, was mace an
essential condition and precedent 10 tho ratnca'on u
all important treaties
rus CLANS or VICTORIA AND OF CHARLES
To vote Tor the third reading OF this Dill would un.
doubtedly tend support an institution upon wnicn
pared with those OF Charles l. were trivial-t Hear.
hcar l'D-and he zhoud consider nimsen AZ oetrayiae
his constituents and me people were 1 20 ssS
and loyul subject than himself or more enth usastc
admirsr Of mauy good and gracious acts oi Kind
ness
The claim put forward under the name OF preroga.
tive haa compelled him TO choose between seeming
LOYALTY to the Queen and fidelity TO the people, aud
feeling In hts case gave way TO prineipe, Sdfus
popuii supreme ez." He could give no more sincere
iprooi of MS attachment to her person and throne
than the step had taken TOR he believed That these
amazing ana portentous claims were iraognt WIN
SS~~~~~~'S ~~N
Mr.. PimsolI's motion seconded by Mr. Burt,
great haste with which tho bill had been pushed
through the various stages
PUSHING BILL THROUGH.
The measure, he said, was introduced very tate IN
the session. and scarcely any time mad been lost IN
pressing forward as though the late oil the mpre
depended upon It's speedy passage through Parliamsnt
IL was true that the Chancsor oil The kxcheqaer had
stated the Introduction OF the bill that precedent
had been strictly followed, but the precedent
had ona he lght be the luten-
tion or the government the result Of this undue
haste was TO prevent proper expression oi opinion
by means OF petitions and public meetings.
GROWING OBJECTIONS.
There was very large section Of the comm unity
among whom tn ere was growing feeling and obJec-
ton against these repeated aiio bers OF
The royal family. Already consideraeis number 'I
petitions had been presented 10 me HSuss OF Com
presented enormous petition against another royal
grant. 1t bore less than los 600 signatures ana he
haa TO call tor assistance 10 pring II up 10 the taoe
the House. In that the petitioners asked ior
fuller information. aud he should ike 10 know why
tina. Information was not given
IS THE GRANT NECESSARILY
He had been asked whether suon a grant was abso-
lutsly necessary-whsther The Dake OF Connaught,
with his present income OF fl5,0O0 q year,
could not afford to marry without an ad-
dirionai grant, ana whe,hor, II an increase
afford to make it herself These were, IN bis opinion
very plain ana blunt questions, and might 10 deemed
urtisrle, but he did not think they were alto.
gsther without pertinence to the subject For his own
part he should ko TO see Tho govern giving fuller
information. Tho Chancellor oi the Exchequer, IN
bringing forward the vote, did not attempt 10 make
of necessity Tor grant OF this Kind, and II
admitted that there were no precedens Tor II
until the present reign.
AMiABLE AND ACCOMPLISHED sUPpLAsrs.
Str Stafford Northcote, continued Mr. Burt, had
dwelt on the amlabily and accom- plisnmOuts Of the
royal personages who about TO be united IN we'd
lock- lie had no reason 10 doubt that these coInpi-
ments were well ms:itod and siacere; oul although
try It mad direct bearing on tho quss-
tion. Ii these royal personages had been
ior he grant, ne presumed, woula stii be made and
evcn these degenerate days there was very large
number OF amiable and accomplished people VINO
would like very well to be married on even less Than
1000 year. tLSughtcr)
THERE BARGAIN?
The Chancellor oil the Exchequcr had contcnded
that bargain had been mado, or ~ least that an un
dsrstanding was come TO at the commencement Of
mi. xind shouic be made when members or
the royal family attained their majority. II
that could be clearly proved It would VI once
remove all nis objections. He should SIN think
that the system objeciicna but he should not
think It becoming honorable 10 throw obsacles IN
Tue way But Iher had not been particle Of proof
OF any such understanding The right honorable
member Greenwich bud put the matter on another
ground Tor he had sad II ,nsy locked NJ the scale OF
classes they must onsider this u reasonable prov
sion That placing the matter ON very question
RICH AND PooR IN ENGLAND.
II an appeal made TO the country ior this ex-
penditurs they h ID right 10 inquire whether IL wns
worth their while TO meet II; while there was no
doub, this was wealthy country II was also 10 many
rcspects very pser. lnere were great numbers who
could scarcsiy get bare subsistence. The Ioor lad
he believed Jealousy or envy with regard TO The
rich. Il was not surprising that man working for
subject from somewhat different standpo.nt 10 the
who onjoyed an income OF fl5 O0O or f25, 900 q
year.
Newark was also opponent OF the Dhi, aud said 10
looked the question from an economical point OF
vew he desired ~ save me people every penny OF
unnecessary taxation.
ExGLASDs FINANCIAL CONDITION.
II the financial condition OF the country was az
prosperous t ten years ego and IN acoudition
this grant tie should not vote against this
bill, bot when they considered The altered
representative OF the people 10 watch every
proposed item Of expenditure, however small Dur
Dor TOR Gresnwicn the expenditure had increased At
the rate oil one million year, aud that period was
OF almost boundess prosperity, but since the ao
ccssion OF the present governm to power the ex
psndiure had been increased at the rate OF two
three and even tour millions yoar. aud II now
reached total OF nearly ESQ OnO, ,0OO while the re-
sources oil the people were gradually diminishing.
THE ROAD TO BASKRUPToYY
,,., ana 'n., s.rn .,,"r
passing into the hands OF the landlords, as
the farmers were unable TO pay the rents demanded
else the greatest possible watchfunoss wish regard
expenditurs OF the country. Trade groatly
dspressed and curing tho last year or Two paupsrsm
had Increased. Ho maintained that II the present
rxio of expenditure continued with diminishing re-
eipts or income national bankruptcy would become
inevitable ('No, no." from the Chancellor oi the
Excnequer.)
Tuis iast remark elected emphatic "No, mol"
from Chancellor OF tue Lxchequsr, who evdsntly
aid enjoy contemp alton OF Mr. Earp's picture
Mr.. Newdegate, tho member Tor Warwick, rost pext
and said that he far IRON blaming henorabis Ren
tlsmso represented tue working classes from
taxing this opportunity oil treaking OF the distress
which prevailed IN the country aud bringing unuer
the notice Her Majesty. But At the same time, he
would remind those honorable gentlemen that tho cx-
pcndturc OF the United states government exceeded
Ia many respects III At OF the UDted Kin gdon.
FEELIy0 Tnk WORKING CLASSES
He had himself ior many years represented the
fesnngs OF large body Of the working population aud
TO have knowledge OF their feelings, and
he believed that the working ciasses were too
reasonable 70 suppose that II would be possible
graduate allowances to the royal family
according 10 the com msrcial condition OF the
country They knew that 1t would 90 quite
iposzibie Tor Her Majesty to discharge tho duties OF
a sovereign " she had auctuating Income, and the
reason applied 10 other members OF The roy al
family. While he was exaggxrating royaiist, per-
haps moro dstermipod IN hts defence OF
the parliamentary and INSTITUTIONAL clemens oil the
government OF this country. He believed That the
working classos vi the country made allowance Tor
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