New-York tribune., 1878-10-24
THE TESTIMONY.


and repeated conversations in which he 'lenIed his
belief in spirtuasm.
THE TESTIMONY.
The Surrogate made an order IN the van
derbiIt will case on Tuesday, that the case must pro
ceed promptly at 1890 o'clock every day At precisely
that hour yesterday morning the Surrogate took his
scat Mr. Clinton and Judge COmsOck were already IN
attendance moment afterward Mr.. Lord came III
hurriedly but the seats behind him, usually occupied
by his witnesses and others interested on tbat Sde
were empty. The Surrogate read bis decision on inc
motion OF Mr. Lord allow the contestants counsel TO
reveal the names Of their witnesses to the Court but not
to the other side. The Court said that While u was
still OF the opinion that when the case was continued
the Court had a right 10 impose conditions and while
the counsel ought be bound by their sipulations
yet the order given merely to further justice
The Surrogate was satisfied that the revealing OF tne
names OF the witnesses would show the good faith OF the
contestant and protect the interests OF the propoheh
He would therefore grant the application and receive
the affidavit Mr. Lord asked an adjournment for haif
an hour 10 prepare the affidavit At IL o'clock Mr. LORD
Judge Black Ethan Allen, Mrs. La Bau and Cornelius
Vanderbilt came in with their Witnesses The anidaNI
was handed TO the Surrogate.
Judge Comstock-DOes that purport to be an afida-
Wit in this casei
The Surrogate docking It over)-lt does
Judge COrnsOck-We ask to see 1t.
The surrogate-Do you refuse to accept the condi-
tiOns imposed by the Courtf
Judge Comstock-We say nothing whatever ON that
subject
The surrogate-Tand the affidavit back to Mr.. Lord.
Let go upon the record that the affidavit giving the
names OF the contestants witnesses has been handed TO
the Court; the proponents counsel object to 1t and ask
that It be shown to them The Court holds that mas
much as the affidavit handed up under the decision
Of the Court that should be kept from the proponents
counsel If they object the Court returns 1t % the con
testants counsel. Call your witness.
The COMMODORE's CONSULTATIONS WITH SPIRITS.
pretty little brunette dressed in black, hadreached
the witness stand when Judge ComsOck after short
consultation with Mr.. Clinton, said: we Of course
can take only such protection the Court VIII give u.s.
but We will ask that all events the affidavit remain in
the hands Of The Court"
Hand back the paper, Mr. Lord said the Surrogate
we want no more OF this backing and filing"
The little brunette gave her name ms Marie Antonctte
Pollard she Is the widow " Edward A. Pollard. for
mery the editor Of a Richmond paper, author Of The
Lost Cause and other works. Her present residence,
she said was No 27 Eleven-st she became acquainted
with Commodore Vandcrbltin 1869, and then heard
conversation between her husband and Commodorc
Vanderbilt on the subject OF spritualism Wncn hf
Pollard asked about some business mIttrGs, the Comno
dorc said: Why don't you consult the spnts They
know about II tuan do" In the laiier
part OF the same year the witness said she
met the Commodore at ls once ana IA,
y1ted him TO a reception 81 told him that ] would
have spirits there. lie said he bad just come from
talk win splrts asked hlm II they had t9d nun t2
were wicked spirits aud Iot & as good ~ those would
aDOut speculation. lie said, grulDy' WY d0htY"
do as always DO aud consult the sprtsf Ho was 80
grufI that eft"
once H. 1871 the witness said she asked the Commo-
dOIe about the million OF dollars TO be left 10 her lie
IN 1874 she visited the Commodore 90 get pass o ell
able her 80 California He said he couldn't do any
witness called again he said that lac had not them
vet Al another visit IA 1875, he objected TO her gong
continued the witness, wnat l. the matter You look
sad, Commodore lie said, am sad. had VISIT
10 leave all my property To child which one Com
nodoreP asked. lie answered, You would cali him
the smaTtest one He looked up In NY iHcr ana smiled,
ana said, Would you do iti IwaHt TO do H. but they
won't let me- ana he looked very very feeble" Con
acted any business without consulting sllits lhl had
cost him good deal In the early part OF 1870 Tue
part OF this year.
LIVELY REPLIES TO CROss-QUEsUoSTNG.
In the crosse1aminaton OF this witness Mr. Clinton
was a. relentless usual Mrs. Pollard was a nervous
woman with "a disposition 10 lOquacity She was dis
posed TO answer Mr. CnntoD's question as she would
have answered IN a parlor a man whom she considered
impeltlncnt Many Of Mr. CIintOns questions she
answered by asking him others. The Surrogate grew
inpatient his frequent vain efforts to restrain the
nId won ever see this mani" asked Mr. Clinton
pointng to Mr. Wuriell the CommodOrc's former
"Weii, really" was tho answer. all gentlemen look
50 much alike that can't say" ILaughierl
TDe witness told the particulars Of the eciurnc tours
which she said she made through virginia, Maryland
and California. During 1877 she was IN California en-
gagged in lecturng, and also was contributor TO The
Sacramento C0H
Al had little wildcat sOrk-'ha IT, stock that goes
up 10 few hours aud goes down again
O-Wucn and where dld your husband DEF Al
eait say vh,n: he dcd IL Lynchhurg, Va, while was
recurring III Philadelphia.
O-Can YOU tell within ten years OF the time when
you were married to your husbandf Al was 81
happy then that ton years were as one day don't re-
Q.-Did you ever live in Washington Ayes;
0.EWere you ever arrested Ayes.
don criminal chargef A-what Is criminal
ohargei Well. If you won't tell me. say no.
Q.-Were you charged with shooting druggist A
Q-Where and whenl A.--In Baltimore; / can't say
Cant tell the time Didn't thiI mako a. much
impression upon yOnr mind ~ the tax with Commo-
dOrr Vanderbilt A.-Oh, no, sir. The Commodore
a gentleman, aud this man Puppy.
$50 tn. event made 10 impression on your mind
A.Eot the slightest; DIDN'T thnEit Of any couso-
Odd you shoot him 2 A.-Yes, sir.
DID you know Judge Black while he was Attorney
General In Washington A.-NO sir have got a let
OF introduction To him IN my pocket but Im sorry
that never mad the pleasure Of meeting HIM.
O-IIayo YOU any body connected with this case
me If 1 dd not know something about the Commodore
said yes, but didn't want to have anything to do with
Q-Who was hel Al only know that he was being
"t5H oEony iy hati A-Yes, he had bald head Laugh
teri go,
Odd you anybody else connected with the case
Ayes; came up to me Que dag while was
standing the front sep,, and asked me II could
90 induced to leave town asked MIN Why He said
Mr. Clinton, hurricdly-Nu, no; don't ask for that.
Laughter in which counsel and litigants jolned.l
Judge Back-YOu got more than you asked Tor that
time.
on redirect examination the witness explained the
circumstances OF her arrests She SAID This druggist
that shot had caused the separation between Mr.. Poi
lard and his second wife (l his third wife he got
a divorce from his second oDel. The man kept little
and A. had rendezvous had NOR
sons. lie inveiged my husband IN there and used to
keep him there went to the store one day and nc
clsed him this. lie making pills at the time and
Inc attacked me with knife cutting open my arm. nad
n pistol and shot him. / was arrested and wac fined