The New York herald., 1878-11-21
H0FFMAN.S RETURN.
The Ex-Governor Gives an Interesting
Account Of Ills Wanderings.
GENERAL GRANT ENJOYING HIMSELF.
Wonderful Material. Prosperity Of France
Under the Republic.

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representative of tho HERALD had a long end cr
ceediney pleasant chat las. evening with Governo,
John II. Hoffman. who returned from Europe OF
Tuesday, with his family. and Is stopping at tbs
Clarendon Hotel. The Governor. who spent
about six months abroad. two months OF
which given to Paris and the Ex-
position had not yet become perfectly conyersani
with the current home Of the day, and
eager for information concerning the recent cleo.
tions, the Manhattan Bank burglary and the
Outrage nDon the tomb OF the late Mr.. stewart.
As affairs in Europe the Governor talked freely but
was somewhat averse to being interviewed. juno
last he spent in England, July the Rhine il tho
German watering places, August in the Swiss passes
and Italian lakes and the rest OF the time in Paris.
PROSPEROUS TRANCE.
Referring TO France the Governor said that as q
nation she was better of to-day than before in
regard to the other Powers There full tide Of
success there the spirit of permeatcd the
entire population as well as governmental affairs.
rs MacMahon popular with the peoplc?' asked the
writer.
.'Gambctta is Tho real ruler of France" the
reply; .'he is the power although he is only
Deputy. The Republic is firmly established. and as
long as the communists and sociastic elements
be kept down everything will bo all right
The government Of Franco upon the shoulders
of the people, and If they get out from under down
cuu. ;ni. ~. hid gsir ascen,ancx th sovcrn
ment would come down.
How is the army; is it not impcrialis.c in its
We'll cannot tell from personal observation. but
there must be all classes of people and all
monarchy and friends OF the Republic but
the spirit think is republican. witnessed the
view of 10000 troops at vincennes and 1t mag
nincent sight Tho army is splendid condition
| any ono can see that
Zone thing struck very torcibly il Paris" CON
tinued the Governor and that was the annual III.
come derived from the clubs by the government
| but every private club is gambling place.
This is generally known of course, but the govern:
ment wnks at it, and derives therefrom revenue Of
about TO- 000O0Of. year. Then there is the national
loans. which are taken up with avidity always.
| always q large prize offered, which some would
be sure to get. merely mention these things to
show the existence of general spirit Of gambling IN
! France"
suppose 2? asked the writer.
YES there is the same fondness for display. Thu
sccne 1t the Exhibition when the prizes were dis
tributod was beyond anything I ever saw.
When the American exhibitors and jewellers marched
in. headed by the guard Of marines. with their band
| ton some years ago it was rare thing to see an
American Nag over there, but during the Exposition
YOU might expect to run up against one almost any
| where You have had accounts Of the ball at Yer.
ssilles I've no doubt, detailing the crush there L
Az said before think France Is the most prosper
to have learned what shall learn eventually
and that is the maximum Of economy and the mini.
| mum of expenditure.
Dt GENERAL GRANT.
"You met General Grant, suppose. Governor
oh yes saw sooa s.d.n. as q ssne5. sn1 Grant
hotel He was looking and feeling well
and enjoying himself wonderfully: He always
tinguished honor. but lived when he could I'M.
prctcntous gentleman He has had his open. and
il particularly well informed every State in Europe.
my arrangements to come home and could not do So
plans are not positively formed. I think"
"But you arc not Of the Generals way Of thinking
oh! no, replied Governor Hoffman with smile
II have condemned some Of his public acts ~ much
as any man. but Il his enemies wish to continue
4 their attacks upon him they had better leave
those simply bosh. speaking OF France again the
bettas lifc but the republic does not depend
4 any one life or two. By the way, I saw Governor
Fenton in Paris. He will not come home this win
ter f4 aMe
| CYPRUS AN ELEPHANT.
How about English affairs GOVERNOR p
| well Cyprus Is kind OF an elephant Eng.
lands hands and do not think the people consoles
the Berlin treaty such great thing after all.
novels who says. What policy shall hsve''
and the answer Is NO policy; let US have
pceSs eSs ".h HSn1f any '0a Tssains
| Dsrseli's sTancred in Paris He wrote II about
| twenty years ago. and one of the expressions in
made to say The Queen OF England should be called
the Empress OF India Dsraels policy is often foro-
| shadowed in his writings, even OF years ago:
| The people however, do not seem TO be delighted
over the additional title the acquisition Of Cyprus
| There is enthusiasm about the mstter at ALL
| .'Wir there be war;
II do not think there will be; that is only my i'm.
| preston Of course. But do not think Russis
i wants war. The feeling in Englsnd Is pretty strong
about it, too. aud there are great many articles and
letters in the papers about IL. One OF them, re-
| member signed "A Disappointed Jinso.' and ran
| about this
| And say we'll aght
/ And Kindly leave Il to Russia
\ To nauo the day.
According to the Berlin treaty Asistc Turkey is 70
! he protected by England. and when Russia makes up
her mind to 10 down there England will have TO hght
! or run away. BY the bye We are always
| talking here abont not mixing up general poi
strong in England now and the power OF general poll
tics is vety strkingy displayed in local politics. They
will vote for over there ~ they happen 10 oe hber
ala or just do here with democrats
| and republicans.
| HOME POLITICS.
what do you think Of our political Affairs at home
/ now y
well passed out of local politics. and practically
| out Of all politics. some time ago. and really do
As for New York State politics. had irkling in
Europe that the Legislature would 10 largely repub-
licsn. Mr. Kelly has been good Comptroller as fAx
c0'Ssf a af' s .na %
| partments are At war 1t will be unfortunate
| ~ course do not know. what combustion Of
Tmnmany. The department should all work
| in accord with each other and with the
Mayor: The Mayor should have tho power to
| compel hsrsnony between the departments and be-
i them md 10 Rhpul 10