The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1878-06-07

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As left that there was no need Of n
going in as Asher could do all the tall
ing necessary. That closed the second AZ
third interviews. Mr.. Levissee met BE
mAndez afterwards and Hernandez tol
him that one hundred thousand dollAl
was the extent he could 60, when Lewis
see said It was not worth while 10 longt
talk about the matter. Levissee said thi
he was never bribed nor did he ever bril-
any body.
In reply to McMahon, he said that
never made affidavit Of the affair, thoug
he entered into the matter n means {
political justice. Leyissee said that b
voted for Hayes and Wheeler.
Considerable discussion occurred In n
gard TO the Official returns from Louisi
ana, and those laid before the committe
by the Secretary Of the Senate were calle
for.
Witness said that 3 portion Of the doc
uments shown him were not signed b
him, although purporting 70 be, and con
sequently were forgeries.
McMechen-why did you not clos
with Asher at the first inter
view by saying that you would tax
500 900 and say who is 70 pay the none.
or how am 10 get Il. Whist difficult,
would there have been in your subse
quenly refusing TO take the money afte
you discovered who the hackers were
A. II you will tell me how ! was to fnC
who the hackers were after the none,
was paid you will tell me something tha
Is not plain at present.
McM&hon-You started with the pur.
pose Of knowing who the hackers were !
Witness-Thlt was the idea l had
throughout that transaction.
McMahon-HoW did you expect 10
find Il out? A. That will be explained
when ! tell Of the subsequent interview
McMahon-I am sticking at this first
interview. A. cannot answer the ques.
tion without going TO subsequent inter
views. It will come out how I found
out considerable about it.
McMahon-We will depart from that
first interview.
Witness-Just a. you say.
McMahon-Are you anxious TO get on
10 the other?
witness-NO; 1 am perfectly satisfied
with this one.
McMahon-I only do 1t to relieve you.
Witness-Ah, you needn't do It to re-
lieye me. Laughter.
McMahon-Then let US 60 to the sec.
ond interview.
Witness-What do you want to know
about the second interview?
McMahon-all that you know.
Witness-secoud interview was ap-
pointed when we seperated at the close oi
The frat. 1t was appointed atst. Charles
Hotel the same evening at z o'clock, /
think 1 was on the rotunda when Asher
came il, as soon as he saw that discovered
him he walked ont and / went with him.
We went out Of doors to the sidewalk
and walked for two or three squares to-
getber, and then / believe the first thing
that Asher said about the matter in this
interview (the second) was that he had
changed the proposition. l made no
special response TO that, or perhaps asked
what the change was. He said instead oi
proposing to me to refuse to accept my
certificate OF election his proposition
would be that would cast my vote
directly for Tilden. ] remarked that
that changed the proposition very ma.
teriAlly, that was very different thing
from q simple refusal 10 accept the Ger.
tifcate Of election, and that would have
to think about it. He coBcurred with
me in that; then commenced
asking him about the matter. l
said: at Is scarcely worth while for US
to 90 any further unless we know where
the money is TO come from. l want 10
know where il il. who has IL, and how We
are TO get IT," for il was Asher's under.
standing that he himself was to have 3
considerable percentage Of whatever mon.
ey was handled in the matter. Asher
thereupon said he would go to the hotel
and see the gentlemen, or zee q gentle
man, there and find out about the mat
ter, and meet me again in hall an
hour. He accordingly went of as l
suppose 10 the hotel and returned at the
appointed time. he recited TO me what
transpired during the interview st the
hotel. asked the name OF the man he
had been to see. He gave the name Of
Walter Pugh. Then when ! asked him
further about the money question Tor pos.
sibly be made this explanation with.
out my questioning him, he said: ave
will 60 together to the corner OF Caron-
dolet and Common streets, We will there
see two men standing talking together"
Witness, on another point, was asked
whether it had not been suggested 10 him
that he should get up speech and deliv-
er il at an Electoral College, taking the
high moral ground that he could not vote
for Hayesi
Witness, smiling-Yes, that ia a part
ofAsher's talk FIRST. After he had broach-
ed the matter and found that / didn't
take otfense at once he said, you can
make yourself immortal In this country.
rLaughterl. Isaid, l thought it was 8
rare thing that & man could Be sowell paid
for imnortalizing himself. Laughter
Now said he the way TO do it would be 10
put that thing on high moral grounds.
tLaughter1. Take the ground that you
were not elected; refuse TO accept your
certificate and say TO themin plain terms
that you believe that Tilden was elected.
One Louisiana Presidential electoral
return which was shown 10 witness be
identified as having been signed By him
q day or two after the vote was taken in
the Electoral College, about the 9Th Of
December. The returns on which his
signature was not genuine bore the New
Orleans postmark Of December %, 1875.
Adjourned.
MArTHEWs-ANDERsos LETTERS.
The following are letters, not hereto
fore published, received from Senator
Matthews and placed in evidence:
CUSTOM HousE, NEw ORLEANS, /
COLLECTORS 0FPICF, March q, 1877. !
DEAR sR:-As soon "a the Commits
sion is appointed please write me definite
instructions. Mash will be here this week,
and will demand possession Of that agree.
menL After offering me 4 possible clerk.
ship, OF course l shall decline. Shall l
inform him that it iS in your possession.
Truly yonrs,
JAMES E. ANDERSON.
Hon. SGaley Aatlht,us, de-, dc, dc.
CusroM HOUSE,, NEw ORLEANS, La, /
CoLLEcToRs oFHicE, May s, "a. !
My DEAR sn:-Your's Of April 9Th
bas been received. The extra session,