New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-12-12

In a memorable debate IN the hOuse OF Com
mons Mr. Macaulay reminded Daniel OCOnnell,
when he was moving for Repeal, that the English
Wings had endured CalumuS abuse, popular Jury,
loss of position exclusion from Parliament, rather
than the great aglta9r himseil should ne less than
that they would never suffer him to lie more. Let
me now remind yOu that the Government under
whose flag ws st SGay SdscSd
of treasure that our cOunfymen of the South
should remain citizens of the United States, having
equal personal rights and equal political privileges
with ali other citizens. And venture, now anu
here, TO warn the men of the South, III the exact
words of Macaulay, that we will never suffer them
to be mOreI
Upon the conclusion OF Mr.. Blane's speech there was
considerable applause in the galleries. but 1t was soon
checked by the Yice-Presdent.
THE ATTACK BY THURMAN.
Mr. THURMAN (Dem., Ohlol then took the floor and
submitted the following an amendment TO the leso
luton
The committee SHAH also inquire whether any
citizen OF any state has been dismissed OF -.
with dismissal employment or deprivation OF any
right privilege by reason OF has vote or nenton 10
vote at the recent elections, or has been oherNlse
innrtrred with ana to INQUIRE whether in The year
1878 money raised by assessment OF Olner ;
ecIon uuruoses and under what circumstances ana ny
what Mems and II so what amount was so riiseu anI
how the same was expended aud further whether sucn
assessments were or not violation OF law ana sna
furtLer inquire INTO the action ana conquer oI untT
states Supcryisors Uf Election In thr severe
states and as 20 the pumDer OF marshals, deputy
narsbi and ot6ers employed to lake part IN the con
dnct If Inc saId eIrctons IN what States cities APP
nointed The amount OF money paid or promised 10 be
paid 10 them aud now by whom and under what ia"
ana authority.
Mr. THURMAN then addressed the Senate
He said I'm substance: The Senator rom Maine had
two purposes IN preparing this carefully elaborated
speecb-nOt TO yindcate the right Of suffrage through
out this whole Union, but TO inquire whether the De-
mocracy of the Southern States had violated the rights
OF American citizens and then TO ma OUT wha'
could he done with them. Now, MI President that Is
very frank. and have no doubt very true statement
n fine animus OF this resolution. Inele may DO Somc
doubts "a 10 The prouretY OF tins Investigation Here
IA short session OF Congress. We nave cHcuGlng Ihe
recess that we always take. less perhaps thbn TWO
months within which TO dispose oil tho ApproprIa-
ton bills and other measures u lrglslatIoh
tot ne .essariIv re0ure the attention OF CunEf 81
And now sir the senator proposes an Investigation tLJ
dcfy any committee that can nc ionhd 10 MAKE WIN
onvfbjng like mountaineering, in any sat siact0Ty
amer with ANYTHING like lusticc-Wlthin lie time lldl
remains OF the session OF the senate IL Is an ipossl
bnty. have Therefore wondered WhN thlH lcsoIulou
Vas }ntro0uccd unless it to be- made string upon
which 10 hang 10 arouse SectlouI hhied III one
norton of this Union against an most a'tctlcS' p,u
ple in another portion OF tue Union lAp'IauSo Ia inc
galleries. -,..,, o., ,,,.,. .,.... ,.o,,,, hat
il this applause shall be repeated the galleries VII be
cleared ,,..,,.,,
Senator viii pardon me, hope tHe Char WIZ aGd' hnu
nat toe persons guilty Of this disorder be taken INTO
Inc yICE-PREsIDEST-Th Chair adds that.
Mr.. THURMAN dem, ohiolTAnG / hop there ,, Wia
bp n "a
when the GALLERIES cheercd the perOratOn OF my
friend from Name; for love an eloquent thhE
much as anybody can ana nave somg''S No m
President, said five mouths "gO, IN speech Whch
beg pardon for REPEATING mere, tnat II uiu seem 10
me as clear as anything In American ponucs culhu
be that there was deliberately IOrhed putpo,t
to create sold North to rule NOT "hy % sI ,o
South, but to rule one-haf nearly / NOT morr; oil tne
people OF the NOrtn." thought 80 then, ana thnh
now mat purpose unpatOttc, more UNJUST, more
franrht with ruin this country, sever entered TIE
brain OF man. That Is my Dehei;
Mr.. THURMAN, continuing, denied inc assumption
On Unch he said the resolution was based, that DC.
cause the Republicans did not get votes IN the South
therefore there has Decn ann he DENIED mat the ne
grUes crssartlv on one sue IN poc-' Ihen' ne
said Mr. Blame Ought to have though Of THIS Vs. eD he
was framing his Fourteenth ana ti,eenth Amena-
with long foresight that III inc end lToprrY
cOu not. Mr. Thurman said that he was In favor OF
rrspectlug the rights Of every man, but ho know that
property. inte gence and educuoh %1ua assert 'htI
everywhere on Tue lace oi the globe lie sara
that IL was the Frcedlncns Bureau winch hrst
laws provide penalties and supervision or elections
enough already. He continued:
thought while the Senator from Maine was making
his speech now much reason this country ana es-
peculy the Southern part Of the country, had 10 con
ratut e it-elf that the next h0hte OF representatives
will not have amUory OF gentlemen thlnklhg uhc Tue
Senator from Maine for n nc ~ right In what be said
n his threats are not mere idle wind-aud certaiuydo
not attribute any such tnng 10 nn.h th1y ere ths
depI-scated and pCrmBntut thoughts OF thOse WIN
bOm he a. Is then should be prepared 10 see House
of Representatives IN when theIe WhS hspuoiICan
majority exclude Southern members by Tue score
tHeu L
,bemsrlycs that the right OF suffrage prohibited
there 20 the negro and theu 10 see then VI ther
supreme authority, they would cOnstrue w. EOie OUT
f6r chosen representatives Of the south not by oues,
not Dy twos, but by the score lt IL fortunate thng
situtl0ns that there IA not IN the present House Of Rep
roseutatiyes and will not be ~ the next majority
thinking the senator IRON Malho thhhs' anu VIKING
TO act as he Is willing 20 act. ,,
The senator concluded with few remarks on the cor
ruDt of money 10 elections ,,.,
The VICE. RESIDEN G-lhe question Is on the amend
mem proposed by the Senator from Ohio.
od md deal impressed with what the Senator
from OHIO had said, particularly In respect to
sad these undoubtedly should lead TO an inquiry into
that very dangerous practice He asked thaithe amend
' TRe VfCEPREsIDENT-Th order to print will be
entered; -, $780,. ,..,.o ., ,.,.,. a.
sanate but wish one word The honorable Senator from
ONO has informed tho country, and informed II with rs
much authority as any man con SPEAK thAt property III
'n Mr. THURMAN Dem, onioI said no such thing.
that properly intelligence and eGucaton win rule
Mr. BLAINE-Regardless Of numberst
Mr. THURMAN-Oh, well. now, the Senator can call
IL regd I'd e-s OF numbers II he wants.
Mr.. BLAINE-I understood the Senator. I was going
Dir THURMAN-l'be Senator cannot misrepresent me
In regard TO that How will they rule "regardIess OF
unlawful means No. sir Does not the
Senator influence good many people In Maine to vote
Mr. BLAINE-I should like to influence some iu Ohio.
Mr. THURMAN-He failed thisyear. He does It every
year OUT because nb mas
and education. and skill and property That is tho
IL, and let me tell him that II he lived down
South he would have tail OF nIggers more lengthy tn
the clan any Highland chief mad In the Highlands
augher all by reason OF his character education and
words
Mr. BLAINE-I am equally sure that II the Senator
from Ohio lived IN the South rs would not have tan OF
negroes following at all. lLaugLterl We shOuli be
Just But wanted him TO point this remark.
The Senator qnallhes but stll 1t stands out
and / take South Carolina with 10000
moro cOlored men than white men - and
tho leader OF the Democratic party, based
on the rights OF the people without regard 10 casio
color without educational test or property qualca-
ton as the Democratic dOctriue has always BEEN an
nounccs mere that property and education will
rule land when assert That they have ruled by YiO
leuce, he tells that there are important questions
which we should consider, ard that Congress has not
time TO waste UpOu The initial step in the organ
izaton OF every legislative body Is 10 hatit Is hon
estly filled by honestly elected and II were per
I,,i,. laty IN A