Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1878-06-12

Il must have been two or three weeks after
the seventeenth of February letter; there is
another letter in which speak OF the Sher-
man document, which will give you the ex-
act date.
Ques-(Handing witness letter. See if
think there was one probably the day after
his; this is my handwriting.
Ques.-You have not seen these letters for
some time? Ans.-No, sir.
Ques.-I put them in your hands now to
refresh your recollection as to anything that
occurred in February. Ans-I saw Mathews
before | wrote the letter in which referred
to the Sherman document.
Mr.. NJ Mahon here read the letter, as fol-
lows!
WASHINGTON. D. c., February 81, 1873.
Ny DEAR SIR have your favor of the twenty
fifth telegraphed you and have written as we'll
me and so talking the cabinet are all friendly,
everyone; NJ has been doing all he COULD Steele is
out of the way and 1t Lays between me and Packard
I don't think anyone will be appointed for some
days. and you know best whether write or to come
over. will write or telegraph you of ANYTHING new
l don't think anyone will be appointed till next
week. and If not perhaps you had best come over
Saturday; The only assurances we can give is that
can be confirmed viii write or telegraph of any
new Developments Truly yours,
To Jas. E. Anderson, Philadelphia.
Witness enthusiastically after this date
had conversation with Mathews, at which
l was the first to mention the fact that An
derson told me he had certain letters, or
documents, or papers, which if given to the
opposition, or published, would not sound
very well for some of those concerned; my
letter would show probably that it was writ
ten a day or two after the interview with
Mathews; with that explanation | can prob
ably go ON with my answer toyour questions;
about the time this letter was written, 1t was
probably the same day or the day before, |
was informed that negotiations were pending
between Anderson S attorney and TIlden and
his friends, III New York, by which these
documents, letters and papers of Mathews
were to be placed In possession of somebody
in New York-Tilden or his friends-and l
wrote tins letter to Anderson, because l con-
sidered he should act in good faith in the
matter, and that the letters had been taken
out of the possession of his attorney and kept
In his own possession; at that time [ certain
ly had not seen Mathews letters, and knew
nothing of them; the only letter | had seen
of Mathews's, was the one that he had talked
with Anderson and Weber and promised to
do something for them, and that is what he
told me.
Ques.-What you heard made you rather
uneasy on this subject? You attached some
importance to these papers? Ans.-I did,
for this reason, because Anderson had told
me that there were such documents to be
published, and | had never had any CONVEX
sation up to this date with Senator Mathews,
and they were documents that would iDjure
Mathews greatly; in fact, would cause him
to lose his seat; up to this date had had
no conversation with Senator Mathews at all
about these papers.
Ques-Is this the letter (referring to Sher-
mans letter.? Look at 1t.
Here Mr.. M Mahon read the following let
ter, dated March 3, 1873:
House OF REPRESENTATIVES,
WASHINGTON, March 3, 1873.
MY DEAR SRI had an interview with NJ. this
evening, and told him what l heard from Potter,
and that you had been over and assured me the pa
perS all in your own possession, and would re-
main so. He said he had word from another source
tuat preparations had been made 10y some one and,
in talking, remarked that If all went right you were
to give them up and l said that would surely be
DONE and would be responsible. He, of Jurse,
nothing else You had best write him that you Were
over but did not care to trouble him, and that
assured me the papers were safe In your own POSSES
sion, and would be given up when went in, you
understood: Neither of us referred to any paper
from him that you had and all looks as favorable
as we could wish. We will hear from Marks to-mor-
row, and will at once let you know. Write or not,
as you think bet to NJ, but 1t seems to me better TO
write. Give my love to Mrs A., and tell her
going to win Write any news from the Ss; Truly
Jas E. Anderson, Philadelphia.
Ques.-The conversation between you and
Mathews referred only to the Sherman copy?
Ans.-At that interview remember he spoke
about letter rejecting upon Mathews. /
only remember mentioning these documents
at one, or perhaps two interviews.
Ques.-Was not this understanding, as |
draw it from this letter, that you were to be
collector of the port at. New Or
leans, and when that was done he was to de-
liver up the Sherman copy, and you were to
be responsible that it was delivered up; that
hat tHn lott tnta SN,r,E -
The understanding of Anderson was this,
that he had written assurances from Sher-
man and Stoughton that they would do some
thing for him; that Mathews knew of this,
aud that he had written assurances from
Mathews of it? Ans.-Anderson always rep
resented up to that time that he did not do
anything but what was right and proper: he
only represented to me that he had done
what was right and proper in the interest of
the Republican party, and that he had writ
ten assurances from those men who were
down there, and he said that if they did not
provide for HMM fact, he threatened to
publish it in the newspapers.
Ques.-When Mrs. jerks talked about
having the original Sherman document, did
she say Sherman and Stoughton document?
Ans.-That Is what 1T was, | think. l don't
remember that she said who it was signed
by, but that was the expression used. My
understanding Is that the document was
given and signed by Sherman and Stoughton;
that Is what Anderson always told me, that
they gave him and Weber written assurances
that they would be taken care of
Ques.-Did he ever tell you of an inter-
view between Sherman, himself and Slough
ton, at a restaurant in New Orleans?
Ans have heard him relate something
about it to several gentlemen during the last
winter, myself and others being present
Ques.-Look at this letter, of March II,
1873, and see if that refreshes your recollec-
ton as to Mathews having called on the
President on your behalf. With whom did
you have aconversation in which you derived
the information that the President was dead
against Packard? Ans.-I got that informal
ton from Mathews, of course.
Mr.. M Mahon read the letter, as follows:
WASHINGTON, March 7, 1873.
My DEAR SIR l saw NJ. for few moments this
evening. de had not seen President Hayes, yet
tol1 him what Kellogg said He told me to put KEEL
and had no chance to talk with him further. II
is dead against Packard He said he did not wait
to appear further in the matter than he had. You
need not come over Tuesday, unless telegraph for
you When saw Kellogg afterward, and limited at
So l do not know what to think of 1t. | will talk
further with NJ. tomorrow and with you. Then, il
show; but guess he will do it. Truly, etc.
To James E. Anderson, Philadelphia.
Ques.-ls that your letter (handing the let
ter to the witness)? Aus.-Yes, sir.
Ques.-The facts stated in there are cor
rect, are they? Ans.-Yes sir.
Mr.. NJ Mahon here read the letter of
March Is, 1878, as follows:
WASHINGTON, D. c., March Is, 1873.
MY DEAR SIR-You will see that the action of the
Louisiana supreme court declares that the paper
was not such document as could have been forged,
and this decision releases all of the others well
as Anderson. Wells left New Orleans for here last
night; II looks very much If there some kind
OF Trade and Wells was coming here to carry 1t out
L saw Mathews to-day In the senate. He thinks the
appointment will be made very soon; thought II
best tnat Marks should come up. Nash will take
Plnchpacks letters and some other papers We have
10 the President Tomorrow. don't think you need
10 come over TILL Wednesday night, but be ready to
come then II | telegraph you. Wells will be here
THURSDAY, and you had, think best be here vii h
those papers. This action of the court, | think
weakens Packard, and Mathews told me to-day that
steel had no SHOW at all. l little afraid old
wells may go In for Packard, In which case there
VIII De danger. NO other news Truly yours etc.
c. b. DARRALL.
To James Z. Anderson. Philadelphia
Qnes.-Now, what | want to ask you IN
that connection is as to the influence of Jas.
E. Anderson and Mr.. Wells with reference
to appointments in Louisiana. Ans.-Up to
this date no one has been appointed except
such parties as they would recommend; Wells