The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-22

uary, 1878, when Marshal Pitkin mot him on
Canal and asked him about IL: he had received
ques ting h i'm 10 nnd document tor him, hut without
meutioning what Tho document was; ne had never
any letter addressed by Ar Sherman 10 any one
IN connection with the election.
The witness was shown several letters, which Wit
ness ldensined as being ~ Inc hanawrans o. A.
the Anderson Weber contract aud asked whether no
believed IL TO be genuine He replied that ne ala not
think II was that Weber always signed mis- namo in
back hand that ne had never seen him sign AZ this
paper was signed; that u might be Weber's
signature, but that II was not his usual
signature he ha1 that Anderson
Weber He also testified as to Governor
keiloggs desire that Anderson should return East
Fecian and discharge his duties as supervisor, and
that the Governor had advanced him $50 out OF his
own funds 10 pay expenses; he denied Anderson's
statement as TO L. b. jerks mot cousin or any
aon Of the wi,ness being got drunk ut the witness
house, and as 10 the facts OF the conspiracy phat
there should be election IN East Felicanaj beng
drawn out or him; that part Of the statement which
mentioned tho tact OF his wife going 10 Colonel Pat
ten, Chairman OF the Democratic State Committee.
true, but her object was TO get guarantee for
Anderson's protection IRON violence.
This all the matter OF any consequence that
was drawn out of the witness on hts direct examlna
tion
CROSS EXAMINATION.
The witness was then cross-examined by MT. Nc
Manon He testified that he was u native OF Florida,
and that al different times he lived IN Aiaoama Mis-
sssippi and IN the parish OF East Feliciana. and in
New Oreans In 1868 he entered tho navy and served
until 1869, when he was honorably discharged.
Q. Have YOU ever held any public position? A.
Yes, SIR have been tax collector OF East Felicana
ana Deputy Unitsa States Marshall wastax collector
O Was there any trouble with your accountss A.
there was IL was claimed that there vas defcit Of
some Sl4 600; the case by Grand
Jury OF Orleans parish VINO found no Indictment
against me- but found true embezzlemcnt against l.
d. jerks who had been my deputy; when the case
came 10 trial he pleaded the statue Of limitations,
ana got of In that way
Q. Was that same i. b. jerks a candidate on the
repuD lean ucke, 10 the election OF ls76S A. Yes,
Tor Parish Judge OF West Fei;ciana.
Then thls man that you proved before tho Grand
Jury TO have emOezzled the public money was
publican candidate ior Judge ~ West Feiicianaf
Mr. Hiscock objected 10 the question going be-
yonu scope OF the investigation
Mr.. McMahon thought u was pertinent as showing
the kind OF candidates presented Dy the republicans
IN these disputed parishes
Mr.. Morrison suggested that the question was in
tended 10 untrustworth,ness Of the witness,
1t being highly Improbable that the republican
party would nominate Tor judge man who had been
Indicted Tor embeZzlius the public money. 4aug
Mr. Hiscock sa,u ne would admit that as the gen
eral rule the presumption would be as stated by Mr.
Morrison, but this was an exception. daughter.
BY Mr. McMahou-Q When uia you read this
and viz OF yours that has been reicrrea 10 here
when rs printed 10 the Sherman report2 4. read
that whnn The last week or ten uays my atten-
directed to It by tue statement wnicn ap-
peared papers that Anaersou s..iu he mad
made any protest, because 4 rsmemper lhat no mad
made this protest aud that had read II
him ana inuorsed IT.
q Dia you read over your answers 10 the inierrog-
atorss that were put to you, which also appear
that books A. No, sir, did not; was NOT par.lcu-
larry Interested nov IN attdavits made 1876 ;
they were Father dry reading
@ You knew That YOU were subpenaed here
rs witness IN behalf oi Mr. Sherman2 A.
did not when lett New Orleans In whose
behalf was subp1naed; the nrst gentleman mat
informed that suuI enaed ON the re publican
siue was Mr.. Sheabarger; ne iniormcd his
olice on, think, the same afternoon that arrived
hore.
rHE INTERVIEW WITH sHERxAx's COUNSEL.
@ How dld you happen 10 20 office? A.
We'll, knew that he was retained rep ubllcan
side, and Was republican, and supposed could
get Information from him ana went 10 see HIM /
notified BIN on my arrival ana he came around 10
my rooms and stayed ten or fifteen uules ana tnen
later went 70 his ONCE and had conversation with
him or couple OF hours.
O. Was your wife with your a. She was there part
OF the time; she won't around 10 Governor ke-
iogg, and on her return called Mr.. She.
laoargers office; altogether, since have been here
nave called on Mr.. oheaDargcr at his olhco three
times but Fave him half u dozen times
2 You and sir. Shellabarser talked over these LOU
isiana mattersf A. Yes, SIR; we talked them over
generally.
q. Dian't you discuss them a little par,cuIariy
A. No. SIR; Il was Mr.. snellabargcr that first tod
Ddn't you 90 INTO details in discussing these
matters2 A. No, slr; think not
THE SHERMAN LETTER AGAIN.
2 How soon after That conversation with Pitkin, In
which hc asked you II you know anything about the
sherman letter. was y tnat your wife came ~ Wash
ingtonf A. do not remember.
q Dad you go home and lsil her of that converse
tions A. Yes, Sir; II was very natural that should
q What did you say to her about its A. / merely
stated that Marshal Pitkin had asked me II mad any
knowlsdge Of any such letter, and that told hun
Q What did she sayf A. don't think that she
en sns ossr
be IN possession Of Mr.. WeDsrf A. Not that re-
member
Q Do you say that he did notY A. No, sir; don't
say tnat no DID NOT, but say don't remember his
montivnipg such tning
q Between that conversation with Pitkin and the
time when your wife came TO Washington did she 30
anywhere else A. she went Mrs. Wcbcr
once about that matter and then she wrote 10 her
second time ABOUT II al the solicitation oil James h.
Anderson; we have hts letters. which we will
produce.
BY Mr. Butler-Q When was tha,--this year or las.
yearf A. think Il Was last year, but am not
positive.
= Whom you spoke to your vito about the sher
man letter what did she say as to whether sue had
ever seen It. A. She never made any remark
pro or con 10 whether she mad heard II.
Did she seem surprised when II was mentioned
DID that appear 10 be the nrst inlmation she
ceived thai there was such leIterf really don't
the matter; l suppose she thought II kind OF u
Joke; at least l never knew OF any such letter
seeing Mrs Weber she said that Mrs. Weber deniod
ever having heard OF such letter.
Mr. Butier-Do you mean what you Fave just said
Tho witness-what rs thatY
MIR. Butlsr-rhat Mrs. wobor said shc didn't know
Of any sucn ietter2
The witness--Yes, sir; moan that positively.
Mr. Butier-You nave been saying all rne time that
you never heard Of any letter oil this character
The witDess-Uf ANY Sherman letter.
Mr.. Buuer-And now you say That MIRA Weber said
she had never heard Of any sacn letlcr.
The witness-I sad that until tho 6tn OF January
any letter or document.
BY Mr. McManon-Q When your wiic came down
from Felicana sne did not disclose you anything
about the Sherman IettefY A. have simply repeat
that the first int,mation ever OF amy
ment on the 9th OF January.
q You never suspected from anything that passed
between your vile ana you that Know oil such y
letterY A. never did
q. What brought your WHO to Washington city
alter TINS conversation botw con you and Ptkin \
A. Private business Of our osn.
why MRS JESks CAMR.
Tho witness at nrst declnsd 10 state publicly what
this business was, though no expressed mis- willing
state IL conhdentaliy to members inc com
mittec the room was accordingly cleared, then
the witness stated twat he aerwnrd repeated ia his
pubic testimony that Mrs jerks came to WASH
ingon GU the occasion referred TO response let
ters from kellogg ana Packard Inquiring whether
hat uDy Information or documents which would be
useful 10 them IN she night Tor the New Orleans Col
lcciorshp and the 5enuorsnip He ala not know
whether his wife had preserved the letters received
IRON Kellogg and Packard, but thougnI II
likely that shc bad and that she would produce them
Anderson mad been reporting IN Washington that no
had information documents by wnicn he could