New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-12-10
THE DEBATE in PARLIAMENT.
GOVERNMENT NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. COMMENTS
BY LORDS DERBY AND CARNARvON.


LONDON. Monday, Dec. 8. 1873.
In the House of Lords this evening Lord
Crlnbrool Secretary Of State for INDIA moving the
resolution that the expenses of the Afghan may be
betrayed from the Of India, said the est-
mated Indian surplus e2,136,O00; therefore
there would be substantial surplus afcr pay
ing the war expenses, which were est mated at
less than 100000 for the present financial year.
Lord Clanlruok declared that the Government assumed
fun bity Lord IyttOn. There not room
for both England and Russia in AfgaauistaD. Tue
Amccg's letter no answer to Eng'anu's ullnatum
but "A mere evasion. England must be paramount IN
Afghausan, which must be friendly janitor to the
door, of india, England must hold the Key herself
yiscount Halifax moved the amendment ccnsurng the
Government.
Lord Lawrence formerly GovernorGeneral
o. India deprecated pushing forward the
frontier under any circumstances. lie thought
the war should be concluded speedily. Nothing
should be exacted from the Aghans, and they should
be assured Of aid against foreign invasion. II England
did no; pay all the costs of le war there would be n
diguatlon aud despair in India.
Lord Derby said the Government, in only summoning
Parliament after war was declared, placed the country,
which profcsscd to be sclfgoverning IN peculiar posi-
ton He pointed TO the difference in the Governments
attitude toward the Ameer Of Afgnanistan ana toward
Russia. lie was Of the opinion that there had never
been any clear wish avoid the war; and that the war
WAS uucOnnected WIN Tue projects Io tue Iecu0@
ton of the frontier.
Lord Clruarvon declared that the war was ifrecon-
cllable with any idea Of justice, and the policy in
frrtherance Of which it had been undertaken was
dangerous and delusiye.
The debate was adjourned.
In the House OF Commons Mr.. Whibread moved the
resolution the conduct OF the Government
with regard to Afgbanstan He said the charge was that
the Government had adopted new policy against the
advice of all experienced officials, concealed IT rom Far
lament and attempted TO carry 1t out 10y threats ana
unworthy means; that, having cause IOr Coulllam,t
against strong power, they hNcd qualfeI on weak
one and involved the country III war; 81, s,,,..
Mr. Stannoue Under Secretary Tor lndla deIendeu INC
Cnvprumeut He repeated IN substance the structures
an Tho nnlicy of the Liberal Government contained IN
TTd Cranbrooks dispatch, and IN conclusion SAID inc
rsent Government did not desire power or nneXalOn,
bnt were bound provide for the security Of the from
-, 49,, L.
ernmeut, pursuing the usual lines OF argument. MT
ChamberaIn announced that he had Withdrawn hs sup
nemenary vote of ceusure because 10 was ucOhsiseht
with the rules OF the House -, s.,.,
AIR Forster replied in detail 10 Mr.. stanhopes
speech He said II the supporters OF tue res
oIutIon we're in power, they would aim at peace
with honor aud take the first opportunity oil coming TO
honorable terms by returning to tue policy Of the
former Indian VicerOys Lords Mayo and NOrthbro0k,
ana assuring the Ameer OF Afghanisan against unpro-
yOBed Russian attack.
The debate was adjourned.