The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-23

smitten with regrets conscience that be ever
entered protest. aud wantea 10 take IL up. tt
| u How aid YOU carry that letter 20 Sher-
nam A IL WAS just late, or accident. or what you
VIII; . was NO premediia,cd design on my part;
a. You let Weber think 1t had been delivereda A..
being iasulted and prevented tnem from annoying
mean the party
q. You that letter you dictated aflcrwardf
q What brought gu 10 Washington lust January
A. Ny own sn'rs; besides al, Interested 10 the
ton generally; am dsvoied to the nation
z Aud u was IN pursuance OF your devotion to the
nation that you cams nercY A. Certainly that brings
all patriots here. tLaughter.l
q. whst was the particular thing that brought you
A. Legislative business generally, nnd then wanted
10 the capital again was told II had improv cd
greatly; wanted TO see that mo icsslatv. business
giideh along smoothly.
q You had several interviews with Mr.. Mathewsf
A. Yes. SIR.
q. And several with Mr. Sherman A. / did my
self the honor oil seeing Mir. sncrman but once; 10
would not accord me private audience, and wo9ld
not state my business IN publc, aud that, think,
LAID he basis OF the Potter investigation.
You did not Come for that purpose A. Oh. no,
sir, tho committee was not ia existence then saw
Mr. Matthew ave or SIX times while was here
WHAT SHE SAID 70 MATTHEWS.
@ What Was your interviews with Mr.. Matthews
abrutY A. | asked Mr.. Matlnews II Anderson mad
spoken 10 him OF any letter the sherman letter so
called. aud MI Matthews sad mo- ana sara 'sa
right"
Q. wha. caused you TO make that INQUIRY a.
think MI Anderson must have bought gross Of
postal cards aboul that time. bccaus. in tho carly
pari OF the year ho used TO send postal card nearly
every day. stating that he had almost ..trced Mr.
Mathews. had 'srun HIM down" and was going
to get him:" THINK no in pursuit
OF Sir. Matthews ali over the State OF Ohio. be-
licvc hc had almost trced" HIM: course this was
n slang phrase ana did nos know what meant; l
never could find out, and did not nnd out from Mr.
Matthews either
PACKARD a POLITICAL MARTYR
Did you have any talk WIN Mr.. Matthews about
Mr. kcliogg's ailarsY A. No. sir Mr.. Kellogg had
been sealed before came on
n nv m lhA nil tn in Hnuu
there? A. considered Packard political martyr
ana thought he ought TO be provided ior no has been
since bat ne was not then, owing to his pretended
Q 10 whom DO you refer when you speak OF his
him very well.
Q Did you not really como for the purpose OF
he ping Packard the hshi Tor the Coicctorshipf A.
What could l possibly do to help Packard? hal no
naht OF my own and 10 not see what could have
done u his name had bsen sent for Inc Collector
ship ne would have been confirmed In Two nutes.
z. But what you wanted TO SEQ Matthews about was
SO mat he would he confirmed? A. DO not know
that Matthew'S vote would have decided the question
took no interest in the matter-n general
Q. ihs letter that kellogg wrote 10 you had
lation to hts light? A. We'll no wanted know what
Anderson was talking about; Anderson, you know,
talks TOO muchi no rambles along ana goes over
hedges aud ches until you cannot follow nm he
asked what document Anderson mad IN his posses
sion; wrote 10 Kellogg hrst that Anderson might
plaincd that kellogg diu not permit him TO "sse
enough ahead II you know what that means; Kei
Iogg merely wished 10 know what document ii was
that Anderson was always taking about; could not
enlighten HIM, because did not know myself
z. You told him that Anderson OF account 2
A. No, sir never said tnat myself; he knew that
without my telling him.
Q DID you know anything about what papers
Anderson hadf A. should have thought the whole
city might have known, because no told everybody
that he met
@. Did Anderson toll you personally lna. no
had letters of Ms,thewsa A. He never mentioned
them 10 mo.
POLITICAL PROMISES
Q. Your husband WIS looking for place at that
ma WuQ ha n nj NJ m md nPnn m
provide for him when he came hereY A. But those.
you know, were political promises; l never under
stood II 80, ut any rate.
q what do you 10 your letter to Mrs. wobcr
by saying thai that document belonged 10 your nus
cause Anderson said so; ho said the captain ain
as much Interested as me- and he wished to make
jerks had very littlo interest IN the matter
answered but one OF Anderson's letters.
2. what influence we're you expected 70 exorcise q
this Packard ngntY A. don't know
= Vol, you came hsref A. ies, SIR; came aud
O. Yes, and think you conquered. Your coming
seoing Is nothing; II Is the conqusring part that
we want to know about? A. But still Packard did
not get the Coilectorship hts friends went back
him.
q What particular lever or screw wore you 10 turn
when you camo into ths heldf A. what ever one 1
| chose 10 handle; do not know the word ..iait -
q In this particular matter you did Tail? A. No,
did not, because never Interested myself very much
Q You were here three or four weeks2 A. Yes,
Sir, bus do not know what particular thing OK
| O. You went TO SEQ Secretary sherman whIic you
nereP "A. Yes. sir; wen, once, rs have said.
WENT ID Ing TREASURY.
q Did you not apply Tor position while you were
hers<or your husband In tho New Orleans Custom
Houses A. No, SIR did not reoelved letter from
Anderson saying that sherman mad sent him letter
which, II Il could be found, would damn him
iorsvorj that Is the language Of Anderson;
| then began TO think 1t rather so.
rlous, perhaps; then took this letter
went up 10 tho Treasury department and re-
qucsted private audience; had sherman granted Il
he IN Dec ex u Nod q
but he SAID he could not grant private audience ana
| | would not explain the matter before his Sec
| retares; I tod him wished 10 speak OF
| matter that occurred In Louisiana; do
not think 1 mentioned Anderson and Weber,
| country was tired OF Louisiana matters, and
thought SO myself, too; Friday could not get a
Grated Mr. sherman entirely, through a statement
which made to the press, or rather sent him let
| ter which ho bad published.
U. Had you not application pending for post on
| for yourself or your husbandr A. No, str.
q Then what DID you go 10 SEQ nim aDoatY A.
went him about that letter tbst Anderson had
| written and TO elusidatc the whole matter 10 him.
q You wanted 10 make to him tho explanation that
you have made here to-dnys 4. Won, proity much
O. Have you explained II to him sinceP A. Nsvcr
az today Tor ,ho irst time have explaIsdit.
A. met h.m once and then ne looked like old Atlas
with all the weight OF the world on his shoulders and
he said at thai time, Neither my client myself
ask any iavors;" said, no one Is pursuing you
with any sucn Intention" and that all iberc was
ABOUT ~
SHERMAN APOLLO.
q. Please repeat again what occurred when you
went 10 Secretary Sherman. Describe his appear.
anceg A. 1 do not think Mr. sherman would impress
any with being an Apollo by any means; said
wanted 10 speak 70 him IN regard To- matter tina,
CURED In Feicisna parish, and he said he thought
the country had heard enough about that, and told
him that perhaps tho country would hear moro; then
/ asked MN about tho cosctorship and no said he
did not know anything about it--tbat MI Hayes had
the nppoin tmeDt.
O Your enor, was unsuccessful. That was the nrs,
time In your lie that you had clipped up WASN'T
A. did not ship up.
q lie rather bunoa you or a. do not under
stand your expression; you talk ike Mr.. Anderson.
a. That - an English expression. A. No. str,
think Is must bc democratic expression. daughter
Al any rate, l protest against H..
q Youwent away without getting what you wanted
| A 4 rcque sted private audience.
a. Ito did not treat you IN the manner In which
gentleman usually treats Iadiesf A. lie refused u
grant private audience and was somcwhst angry
myself for saw nothing improper IN grantiog a prl
| vate audience.
a. Did not yon consider that no had refused you M
interview because OF tho business you camo on from
louisiana a. No. sir; because l do not think he
| knew about u.
4 Al Van foil An vii a sho Mi a