Daily Los Angeles herald., 1878-08-04
Eos gugeles Nsrala.
BUTLER AND KEaRNEY.
lntsreeting Interview between tho California
pzaymsn and the Hero Of Fort Fisher
Butler's Views on the Great Public Issues.

low IL given the substance of the
1ntcrvlew between Ben Butler and
Donis Kearney at the house of the
1ntter's mother on Tuesday after
4oon. Ben Butler was accompanied
~ . friend. He was plainly attired
Z md wore q broad brimmed soft
NJ. looking quite fresh. After the
o1ual salutations and handshakings
BctIer remarked: "Weil, Kearney,
&1 you have kept US at the East quite
busy reading of YOU"
| Kearney-Yes, have been some-
what mIschievous.
After some desultory conversation
& en- the rise of the agitation in Cali
lornia, Butler went into q rather
lougthy dissertation on the division
of the lands of France into small
lArtns and her wonderful strides
since; her wonderful productiveness
and the ease with which she dis
charged her great debt; adding that
France, though not 30 large as New
York State, had exported more pro-
duco to England alone than the
United States TO all ports. 1t was
her Industry that made such results
possible.
THE CHINESE QUESTION.
Kearney then said, General l
have several questions 1 desire to
have you answer, as I am sure it
viii be interesting to the people OF
the Pacific Coast and especially to
Z our delegates to the Constitutional
Convention.
Ffrst-What power has o State,
BY provision in Its Constitution to
prevent Chinese immigration
9econd-.What determination can
Il make by amendments to its Con-
stitution against aliens aud those
not capable of admission to citizen
ship without conflicting with the
Fourteenth Amendment to the
Constitution.of the United States?
Third-Can we debar them by
Constitutional inhibition from fish
ing In our inland waters; from re.
ceiving licenses to engage in bust.
nese, and from using our State
Courts and from other privileee es
enjoyed by citizens?
Fourth-Can State levy cap
itation tax on such aliens ?
Fifth-Cau State confer on mu-
nlcipalities the right to exclude
them from the city limits =?
Sixth and general-What can O
3 State do TO protect itself from this
curse
Buffers comments and X Kearney's s
explanations took up one hour of
the interview, Buffers most point
ed remark being the asking iftheir
bones would not make good fertil-
ixers. Although he answered the
questions in a conversational way,
he asked that no report should be
made until he had given some
thought to the subject, promising
to write down his opinions and
give them for Kearney's use.
In speaking of the new Constitu
tIon for California Butler suggested
that the Massachusetts jury sys-
tenn should be adopted, which pro-
vides that man cannot serve on a
Jury but once in three years thus
breaking up professional jurymen.
RAIL AND OTHER ROADS.
The railroad was the next subject.
Butler-Railroads should be com.
mon highways,and the county roads
special highways. Then on the com.
mon highways let there be com.
petition of trains; make a cOmpeti-
ton Of stage lines, and fares will be
reduced.
Kearney That is practical.
like that, General. 1 see you art
very practical.
Butler then showed the singular
tty that great lawsuits hang ovel
almost all great inventions. bul
none was ever discovered over the
Pullman palace car, because it was
the general property of the railroad
Directors; and when the rairoa,
companies did not make so much
on common fares and freights, SC
that they could plead poverty to
the Government and Tax Collect
Ors, they made big money on sleep.
eTs and Blue Line and Star Line
and other line freights, all of wbicl,
were swindles if above the fare
rates or price that should be
charged, and the railroad Directors
were the company. He then Illus
trated, saying that inasmuch as
the sleeping coaches only carried
twenty passengers, while the COM
mon car carried sixty, the common
passenger had to pay for the extra
twenty who should ride in the
same space in the sleepers. Your
money, Mr.. Kearney, helped to pay
the passage Of some one in the
Pullman rs well as your own.n
kearney (nodding)-Thats so.
Butler then spoke of Vanderbilt.
kearney (interrupting)-We call
such men thieves on the Pacific
Coast.
Butler did not blame the man SO
much as the system that allowed
II. He blamed the workingmen
for voting for such system.
Kearney-We must chop both
ways, General; hang a few Of these
thieves and vote them out at the
90 me time.
GREENBAcKs.
Kearney-Well, General, what
about greenbacks
Butler-Greenbacks are untaxed
money. The Shylocks wish to make
them interest bearing money.
Kearney-Mercy! We must get
an honest Government; then
money will take care ofitself. WHY,
u the cobblestones were money to-
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