The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-07-26

MT. hayes. tnut IL 10 say, tnNt we were sHIlSDeN
at that time as to. what the views OF Mr.. Hayes |
were with regard to the southern question. We |
believed that he wanted 70 adopt conciiaory |
ing a control OF our State Government, That
was bis desire desire, But, es I told Mr. Ellis and
ileve that there was any man living strong
. united, hostile party; that we needed no
personally but tha, we did want ff and % mus, % have
q guarantee from the strong Radical leaders OF
fields. tho Mortons. and men % Of that class @ whose
assurances We must have that they would allow
Hayes to carry out his peaceful and conciliatory
ccuId not easect s m Hayes as0N@ "Ts SSs any my
leaders, Il would be useless. % While VIZ taItinS With
M R 6bc snS Tfsd Me- by ew SSom p Se
forth in the early conference had with them on
to whom had previously announced that il was
our determination. unless we could sc.
cure tho guarantees OF strong Radical
mined effort to defeat the electoral count that
yewere absolutely determined to protect and
dured Radical rule rs long as we could. and
while we felt that there was no disloyaty In 1t so
that our course exhibited heretofore had been
sought TO avoid clashlng with the Federal author
ornment as against the Federal Government or
anybody else who might attempt to sustain
inaugurate the Packard Governmentsvas bound
TO plunge this state into anarchy and strife and,
II anarchy and strife should come; we preferred
to ma kc national issue. in which our national
friends would bc involved as we'll as ourselves.
Coy. Deqnison and Mr.. Matthews asked me
with Nlr. sherman told them certainly not.
We then walked to the room OF the Finance
Commiitce OF the senate in the other wing Of
the building. There | met MIR. sherman. MIR.
Matthews. and Mr.. Dennison. The door was
locked. Mr.. sherman stated that he had sent
Tor mo 10 consult with me concerning the con-
dition oi things then prevailing IN the House
OF Representatives. that no saw there was an
and throw obstacles in the way of peaceful
termination OF tho count and that they were
existing in the minds Of members Of the House
with reference to the course that would be pur-
sued by MIR; Hayes toward Louisiana and South
Carolina; lie expressed his regret for that con-
dtion Of affairs, stated they were very much
alarmed. and wished TO know what could be done
TO remove the difficulties.
| informed Mr.. sherman that ! had no author
ity TO speak for the House OF Representatives,,
or any membcr Of it; that was the accredited
agent of the Nichols State Government, aud
presented him my credentials. which he road.
said that conquered with him IN the view TINT
caused 10y apprehension on the pHrt Of southern
men with regard To the course Of the licpuoli;
Louisiana. lie then asked, me, what
tnut the only suggestion cuuli
Oiipr. rs We agreed aS To- tho cause. was To re-
move that cause lie asked how that could be
done told him by the friends of Mr.. Hayes
going to President Grant and saying 10 him
that the removal Of the troops from Louisiana
would not cmbarras- his successor, but would
rather facilitate his Inauguration. White had
oi the House. | had no doubt what the
efref would be- Mr.. sherman said: MAJOR
Burke. there Is no Use talking about Grant
He is surrounded by such Influences that we
cannot hope 10 accomplish anyihing with him"
hin. With that pulcI @ rom my "' po5Eei 'Ei the the
despatch Of the 26th Of February. IN which
oils Government, was The Government that
should stand. and that his opinion and sonti-
in ment was was, clearly against the use OF
with the Nichols Govcrnment; that he had not
acted. simply because he did not wish TO cm-
barrass his successor. ] said to those gentle
men thnt II they were sincere. they should go TO
President Grant and say 10 him that II would
not cmharrnss his successor. and that the i'm
mediate withdrawal of the troops from Louis
ianh would had no doubt. cause n cessation OF
opposition 10 the Determination Of the count In
the House. They agreed to 80 10 President
Grant on the following morning and make these
representations.
SPEAKING FoR HAYES
After reading the despatch alout GOV. Dcnni-
they should give expression to their opinions
and Lee stated that while he was not authorized
10 speak lor Mr.. Hayes. YET no hhd known MN
t.mately associated aud connected with him.
md i"lt that from his association with him
he know his views upon that question. And he
felt authorized 10 guarantee that the views eN-
pressed ia tho telegram which had been sent 10
Nichols as from Grant expressed the views of
GOV. Hayes and would b. carried out 10y him
should he be innugurated Mr.. Matthews re-
peeted the s.me thing. and then Mr. Dcnnison
Mr.. sherman an roycd the statement made,
and said that h9 should So advise President
Hayes II hr should become President.
Tho discussion passed 10 the difficulties that
might be anticipated. Mr; ohermans aprrc-
treatment Of the .colorel peop'c. 10 the aban;
danment % the Rcpuhcans OF the state. and
e the policy Of the Staie, Government toward
Republicans in case the NICHOLS Goycrnment
ST. lull come into power. Upon that subject !
read - them a memolAndum. copy Of which
| had transmitted to Mr. Matthew'S on the 18th
oi FohrunY guaranteeing the policy OF the
Sherman then touched upon the practical din-
cu!trs i'm tie Senate. the Il inicultics that would
he raised 10y the appearance oi two democratic
Senators upon the assembling Of the SenWc.nnd.
thought. he did this with view To- indicating
the prOprloty Of tho selection Of two Republican
Senators, A. 4 means, OF 9hviatIng me cmbar-
rssmrnt that would arise. Tho impression
claims before the Senate would precipiuie the
whole issn" unon the senate boiorc the Cabinet
should be- cunilrmcd and perhaps raise am.
Guilty which would defeat the con nlrmaton of
the Cabinet 20 carry out tn southern policy;
I'm order to ohyiato that aim ully. | suggested
thnt We would not clcct our loug-torm Senator
at the r"gulnr session Of our Legislature. which
was about 10 close but that We would defer tho
the lO,h Of March. giving time 10 the Cabinet 10
be confirmed and we would call nm extra ses-
sion OF our Legislature for that purpose.
THE woRNLEY HOTEL CONFERENCE.
| then suggested tothose gentemcn that was
acting in connection with the representatives
| from Louisiana. and oneucd with them upon
| all questions concerning Louisiana, and
| thought il best that there should ho a consul
tntion AT which the gentlemen who felt that they
represented the views of Mr. Hayes should meet
| with those gentlemen who were reprosenti ling
! the Interests of Louisiana, IN order that there
| should DO no misunderstanding OF the views
| that nN listed or had been expressed ana II was
| nj thai suggestion thut the conference Mt Worm
| ley's Hotel was held, Of which you have heard.
| That conference WIS held on the same night.
| Q.-What was tho dato of thnt conference
| The 2Gih OF February. There wern presnnt
| Mr.. Matthews. Mr. Foster. Mr. Garfield, Mr..
| Sherman lGeoreo Carter was present in tho
| room when we first were called. hut | think he
| retiredl Nj. Ellis. Mr.. Lovy, and myself and.
| us there was no person actively representing
| South Carolina we invited Mr.. WAttcrson OF
| Kentucky 10 he present in tho interest OF south
| Carolina. THIS completed the number 90 lar
| MS nay recollection serves. at the conierrnce.
| O-At whose room WAS that conference
| A.-The conference was held in Mr. Evarls 3
| room. Mr. Evarls WAS not present however. at
| the conference Tho condition o. affairs in
| Louisiana WAS thoroughly discussed. We pro
| srntcd and read there y statement OF tho in
| t.,,.l.I ,.,linv of ihn NiplDlla OOVprumput