New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-06-13

out Of the way, he can only appoint Packard my
am sure Nan bSs Gled mole sfrSs pefitoSs from col
ored men, Write me what You 90, and # you write NJ.
love 70 poor Laura. II is too bad her miserable health
Yours, etc. C. b. d.
Q.-N0w, when YOU got home did you write TO Ander-
Q-What old you advise him to do in regard 70 these
papersi AShOrty after the committee was appointed
received letter from Anderson stating that he in
tended tesfying something on that account and wrote
treated right.
Q.-YOu advised him TO pitch m A-Certanly.
Q-DOnt you remember saying TO him something in
that letter-something like thst) go ahead aud pitch
IN to expose the Notwithstanding hypOcriie and that ms
papers would DO itl-A. am inclined to think said
something OF that Eind L know spoke quite warmly
IN regard 70 it.
letter Of April s. was here called to the attention Of
the witness. simply TO refresh his recollection. General
Butler thought the letter ought to be put in evidence,
and it was accordingly read by the clerk as follows;
WASHINGTON D. C.. April 5, 1873
MY DEAR SIR: Not hearing from you l telegraphed
this morning. This afternoon nave your card OF yes
terday am very to hear Mrs. A. keeps sick.
eorld do anything farther The situation about this
Williamson Is out Of the way Governor Packard Wells
aud Anderson favor Anderson Then Governor Kellogg
has notified them that only Packard, Dariall
or Steele will be confirmed, and IN the order
named Now Steele, the Governor Anderson, have no
show. Packard may get ii, but Pnchback and some
other influences against him. and the President has
given no indications that he would appoint him. KEEL
logg and all the Packard influence. including William
son, for me second choice and II seems 10
VI. does anything at all, sure. Nash was up aud
spent nearly hour with the President last night by
looks very favorable The only thing said against
me is that / am a carRet-nagger. l think they
ment will be made next week see NJ often,
and he seems well disposed q could be. and
thinks II only question OF snort Time NO one Is
better recommended than ] am, and there Is abso
Lutte certainty, can be confirmed SO don't see VIVA
can beat me II NJ. gets IN his work Packard will be
entirely satisfied il get It. The r. A. b. would
howl, ana Will against idoo any one no one men,
ms favor as little against him as have. The only
bef about ma" w,tnG me- GIVE my love to Laura and saw
would Ike much to come over if could leave here.
janus E. ANDERSON esq.,, Philadelphia, Penn.
GENERAL BUTLER TAKES THE HELM.
General Butler then questioned Mr.. Darrall with re-
spect 10 the influences the latter had brought 70 bear TO
obtain the Colectorship Mr. Darra said that he first
became acquainted with Mr.. Matthews when he called
upon him with reference to the Coleetorshp, and in
behalf OF Packard. This was in October.
Q-When did yOu first make mp your mind 20 go in for
the contest tor Collector youTselfi Alt was shortly
before unseated in the House, probably some days
o.HTo be candidate to whom did you first apply for
Mr. Maury, an ex-membeI Of Congress- and Judge
Marsh aud Mr.. Nasn and one or two other gentlemen
were here the CITY about the time, or q little
before the goth Of February, and in talking over
the matter Of the COllectOrshp the suggestion
came think, from Mr. Maury, that in case should lose
my seat would probably be the most available candl-
date There some fear that Mr. Packard would not
be appointed. We were IN iaE0I OF MN .theh'
O.ZAnd you went 10 Mr.. Matthew's Ayes, sir
O-Repeat that conversation substantially. the best
OF your memory Alt substantially this That
Mr. Matthews had withdrawn; that he would make no
opposition Packard. IL remains In my mind nat we
conversed regard 20 The matter OF the Coeeorshpi
that Mr. Matthews stated that he had been called on by
MT anderson ana ne lad st for ne and we TAXED The
matter over. Mr.. Matthews informed me that he had
Withdrawn any opposition TO Mr. Packard. and that be
would be very glad TO assist me If could get such
Recommendations ms were necessary, and ne asked
what recommendations could get, what lnhuehee
could bring to bear Probably our conversation lasIedIor
o-Didnt you learn from Matthews that Anderson
was the first man that had suggested your TO him
as canddatei Al have stated that already.
Q-Had you prior to that time, had any conversation
, %5 AIfS1'o A eDSlr
Q-When did you first have conversations with Ander-
son on that subject A.That would be or two days
previous 10 this interview with Matthews
Odd Mr~AndersOn come 10 you 10 be a candidate,
AAs 20 the suggestion OF my candidacy coming to me
o-Bid YOU 20 to him and say VIII you help met"
or did ne come 10 yOu and say he would help yOuI A
Q1Did you write 70 Anderson come and You
about your candidacy Al wrote HIM number Of
Question repeated A.--Possibly.
Question repeated A.-yeiy likely lid
tou whether wrote fret or he our correspondence wa
o-tiutefruptiug the witness)-Pardon me. You
were about 20 become candidate for high ohce under
the Govcrnm nt Here was drunken, i1iseianle lcI-
low down 10 LOUISIANA or who had been down III Lou
i,lana man WHO. yOu had learned had got corrupt
agreement 10 nave lhe NaEa Clnc.I,snIp YOU u
member OF Congress who had not yet been unseatr9,
you know whether that rascal came anu ha"' fhg "h
OF service - You, or yoU went 20 MIMI A-NcH' ST.
Mr. Anderson and myself had had conversation IN re-
gard 10 the COiectoIshp before became cahdl-
date in regard TO Mr.. Packard.
O.-LcaVc him out About myself cannot swear
whether the suggestion came from him, or from me, or
from some friend OF mue
o. meal toe suggestion that the loafer should take
part ~ 10; that's what mean. Al remember writing
to Mr. Anderson about that matter.
O.-Dldut yOu write 20 him TO come over and holp
YOU Al wrote 10 him number OF letters
Q.-(sharply Did You write TO him before ne s.d any
IA Ia enm no be- i
Q.EDon't you believe you didf A.-Thats my best
recollection Unless I saw the letter could not tell.
Q-What induced you 70 90 % Philadelphia FOR this
miserable 70 aid you In that candldatnrci Al
stated tbat Mr. Anderson had suggested It 10 me
1Tler on times and Il was understood be held such
papers and documents that the powers lhaJ were would
BE- willing aud glad to listen To-.
Odd Anderson say anything. or write anything TO
you about any cum & re him aboU ar asked
him about, such documents. A'-leb
O-What is the earliest day you recOlicct that yOn
knew anything from hun that ne haa mem OF calmed
10 have them Alt "a very difficult for me 10 answer
that During the time that the commission was there
knew be mad letters from Senator Matthews because be
so informed me, and am OF the Impression mat ne IN
formed about what is called the Sherman agree
mcut either before Immediately after the holiday re-
cess can't remember exactly
we're there April. Anderson informed you that he had
letters from Matthewsi Ale certainly informed me.
and think he showed me q letter from Mr. Matthews
Of introduction 70 Judge Harlan, or something OF that
Kind My recollection Is that he had number Of inter
views with Harlan, and be told hin az that ume,
l rec0llect, that he gave the Weber agreement
ree5enf and he said he sent II 70 Mathew NV
recollection Is that he saw Mr. Harlan was promised
some position, and delivered him this document lie
saws he Il Mr.. Matthews but my recollection Is
that he gave 1t 10 Harlan. l expressed surprise
mat he gave Il TO Harlan, and he said
Mr. Harlan and Mr.. Matthews would secure him Of
fee.
ODD You express any surprise 20 Anderson that,
afer Matthews and Harlan had been informed that he
had made fraudulent agreement with Nash and false
protest that they should have promised to give HIM
o0ice4 Al have no doubt ala.
Q-Do you remember 80. A.-Certainly
The cross-eKamnauon Of Mr.. Darral, by General But
ler continued at great length the examination cOntInu
ally going the subjects which have been testified