The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-05-22
UNITED STATES SENATE.
Neither Gen. Grant nor Gen. shields 10 be
Placed on the Retired List.

WASHINGTON, May 2i-In the Senate Mr..
Ferry rep. Michl said TINT hc was directed by
u majority Of the Committee on Finance to ro-
port back without amendment the House hill TO
forbid the further retirement Of United States
legal tender notes. and to recommend its pas
sage. He gave notice that he would call it up
for consideration tomorrow. Placed on the
calendar.
Tho Senate resumed consideration of the bill
authorizing II. B. Hayes to appoint jas. Shields
Brigadier-G General in the United States army
on the retired list the question being on tho
amendment authorizing him to appoint
Ulysses S. Grant General on the retired list.
MIR. Cockrcll dem. Mo- demanded the yeas
and nays on concurring in that amendment.
and i was concurrcd in-yc9s 32s nays -. All
the Republicans voted in tho affirmative. aud
all the Democrats in the negative. .
=, Mr. Lamarannoqncci that he WIS paired l. WIN
MIR. Davis LbcW. w: Va He Lamar would
Mr.. Thurman DEM Oliol said that there
had come from the House u bill granting an in
crease Of pension to Gen. Shields. Several sem
ators opposed to the hill now before tn" Senate
had indicated their willingness To vote furthut
bill. Hc moved that the pending bill be referred
10 the Committee on Pensions.
Mr.. Cockrell hoped not.
Mr.. ingalls, tliep.. Kanl said It was useless.
Mr.. Thurman withdrew his motion. and
moved to strike out all after the enacting clause.
and insert the following: That the Secretary
q
is hereby authorized and directed to place on
the pension rolls. subject to the provisions and
limitations Of the Pension law the name OF
james Shields, late Brigadicr- General ot the
United States Volunteers. ut the ratio Of fluO per
month. said pension to be In lieu OF that which
he now receives
Mr.. Sargent REP Call raised point Of
MIR Conkllng said that the amendment was in
order. and tho Chair overrulcd the point.
Mr.. Hill Dem. GA snid 1t had been asserted
OH tho other side. that Democratic senators on
posed the amendment because they were op-
posed 20 Gen, Grant. Ho protested against
this. He would have voted against the amend
nient II it had boon TO insert the name OF George
tax the people of the United States TO support
man who is already supported or able to sup
port himself. He did not know TINT Gen. Grant
would accept this retirement II the bill should
pass; perhaps he might; he did not refuse
much, lLauehterl But he tMr. Hid believed
that Gen. Grant would refuse IL. There were
many features in Gen. Grants character which
be admired The man who uttered the words
hc did when he was offered Lees sword and
would not receive II would not be forgotten
Mr. Kirkwood tRcp; Iowa. did not think at;
taching the name OF Cen Grant To the bill would
Kill II. IL would rather strengthen II.
Mr. Hill said IL would defeat the bill for the
same reason that the name Of Geo. Il. Mcclellan
Mr. Kirkwood did not believe the people ap;
preciated the services OF Geo. Is. Mcclellan and
L. ). Grant like. Laughter
Cen Shields and said there was NJ. parallel be-
tween Gen, Grant on the one side and Gen.
Mr. Sargent-That Is true.
Mr. Hill said that Gen. Grant was not in the
condition Of Gen. Shields. and he tMr. HID
dition. Should he ever be half rs poor as Gen.
Shields. he MIR. Hid would GO ~ far Us any
senator 10 keep him from passing his declining
Mr. Sargent Thought that Senators had used
rather cNtravagant language In depicting Gen;
Shieldss condition. The General was in good
health and travelled over the country occurring
for $500 night. His name had been recently
mentioned in connection with aseut in the Senate
from Missouri II was only when another party
nominated him for Doorkcepcr of the House
that the Democrats discovered that he had been
Mr.. Voorhees, Dem. Ind. thought II i'm.
proper 70 introduce the amendment in regard
TO Gen. Grant, but said there was no use quar-
relling about him.. He filed an immense space.
and always would in American history. He
lMr Voorhees, did not vote for tho amendment.
but II had been placed on the bill 10y "a vote Of
the Senate and he would not be driven from
tn, support of the bill by, the amendment
Mr.. Blaine said that he had twice voted to
place the name OF Gen. Grant on the retired
list. Mr.; Thurman. by his amendment now
chamber To leave out Gen Grant aud envc in
Gen. Shields, That was an unkind invitation.
Mr.. HiIl said that Mr.. Blaine was very f,,si
ii. H. lMr. Hid did no, vote, Tor men: he
voted for prineipIIg;. He did not know what Ne
never been able TO find out. Laughter
He honored Gen. Grant. rs he did every other
who did not fight during the war. but fought
only during the time OF peace the American
people could never have too little respect.
lLnughter.l
Mr.. Thurman said that tho amendment Of Mr..
Sargent was opening the door for "a thing IN =
Government had never done. the giving OF PEE
cuniary aid TO men on account Of their great
military achievements. IL Gen Grant was
pensioned in the way proposed. no man could
say where such thing would end.
The amendment OF Mr.. Thurman was reject
ed-yeas, 81 ; NAYS 80, rs follows:
". NJ. Hatfa nur ~ nrnk -
ChfNrn.D coke. GJhrg, cos.ts' DAVIS H. Dennis.
ston. herman Nctrecry McPhrrson. MaNry. MvrrimHn.
Mnrsan Ns0m Randolph. Thurman, ndh'@h. WHITE,
Nither>-dl
NNYs-Mrs.rs dN,sla. Armstrong. Bhrins Bssh Hrgc,,
Butler. sWfIta fa OHi,ita Wis. Cockrell. fhfs1.
Fcr v H1Hln, HDfe. hgis. Jones Fla ksf1J kukr'-sL
Lamar Mcdonald HeMiIl. hinhsNs jhthsH pgt1y. Put
Issh Pun PigHh, RItv, SHgod, Srui', SJ,f.ee,
Tsus,. Voorhees,. Wurt@t-ai
The bill was reIected-yeas 80. nays "a, as fol-
lows:
Ytls-Messrs i7is,n. Armstrong. Baa, NIUE, Bum.
aais Butler. fuNsiDH ga, fImooH MIS- tuckrel. ruh-
hy. furrp IN ~. Fsng illll Hgth kisJy Lamar NJ
Donald. MhNig, Minh-ps, MrhsH NJ lrgan, Mo1N, Put
deh Fdnesln Plant Sug,nL SJen's VOORHEES, Wndpm-tl
NAYs-Messrs Bailey, Btrnum, Baysri Beck h.sh,
lLriHmasg Coke. DAVIS an. Dennis Eaton. kfnwr'',
Eusu' Grover Harris Hereford H,ig, H,f' John,ton.
Jones lflhl, Herman knka.sf MctrcerN, Mcfhcrson.
Massey. Mrrrynnn tiytIg. Randolph. HNns. Sn0ds'',