Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-12-11
ANOTHER TALK WITH HAYES.
What He Says about His Southern Policy
the Democratic Leadershtp, and Busfnes


What He Says about His Southern Policy.
the Democratic Leadership, and Business
Prospects.
Al interview with President Hayes. furnished
by Gath, is printed in the Brooklyn Eagle
The more interesting portions are:
You have passed through half of your term
with good deal of quietness, Mr.. President
The Republican party seems to have derived
some benefit from your Southern policy, to
judge from the election
Il am pretty certain said the President.
that many Democratic votes were cast for the
Republican candidates last month The course
adopted toward the Southern States made it
possible for many Democrats to vote with
u.s.
called the Presidents attention to the opin-
ion of
MIR. GROW, OF PENNSYLVANIA,
as to the blunoer of the Republicans in not
building up Union Republican party in the
South, SO as to anticipate the withdrawal of the
carpet-baggers, when the negroes were left with
nothing to lean upon. Il have my doubts -
said the President, whether at that time the
reliable nucleus of a Republican organization
could have been formed in the South. It would
have done no harm to try it. but all such GREAT
been sheathed. We expect time to move too
fast. After all, only few years have rolled
by since the war, and many things have been
settled for the BETTER
Said I, "Gen. Grant has made feeble effort
to create union party in the South. There
was
GEN. LoNGsTREET
Grant gave him prominent position but did
not appoint men of the same class in other
Southern portions. Consequently the whole
fury of the South was turned on Longstreet
as the first renegade
The President answered: ssGen. Grant would
have had to contend with his own party If he
had made any such nominations. It is my
recollection that Longstreet was the sixth. oil
the confederate people Grant nominated. He
did not, therefore, set up Longstreet alone
Grant found every one of these nomination.
produced counter-excitement in the North
Neither section was ready to make such sacri
hces of feeling or patronage for the sake of re.
Cancellation. l have had most of my trouble
on that very score. There is not enough OF
patronage to satisfy the wants of two parties
even 1t that was the way to accomplish any
thing"
WHAT Is THE NEXT MOVEMENT
OF the Democrats, OF opposition, MIR. Presi,
dent?''
'It looks to me as if Gen. Butler would take
the leadership Of all the anti-Republican force,
in Congress-
This seemed startling remark, coming
from the presiaes1t. Mr. Hayes added, Don
they show in Congress. They look as if they
were waiting for somebody to come.forwarc
and head the opposition column. Who is there
SO likely as Gen. Butler?'
why, there is
SENATOR THURMAN.
! LIZ not he likely to be their LEADER"
OF course, he has been regarded for some
time as rather the highest exponent of his mar.
ty In the Senate, but this time seems to me ia
yoraole for the appearance of some person VIII,
may make stir. l should not be surprised il
Butler would avail himself of the chance and
they would build up a considerable party fol-
the time being-lndeed, a growing one for ;
while.''
Mr.. President, have we not probably touched
bottom in our business DEPRESSION"
eyes; think we have been walking on thu
bottom for some time past and are rather go
ing up the other bank. This matter of our ex
cess OF exports is very important for u.s. because
it is new thing in itself. I really think
England has reached place where her suprem
acy is to be arrested. She can no longer sun
ply the whole world with the products of he,
A'oitio3 iOieoSo oiiu chopss luS newspapers
ought to 60 into that department Of investiea
ton, and help the confidence and spirits of the
people,
"Mr. President there is the question of tariff.
Don't you think our tariff too high to give us
the best of the present advantage?'
There is no doubt" said President Hayes.
that the rectifcation of the tariff is long way
behind other things. In time we must an.
proach that topic, but not now"
why not now"
mot until we have turned the corner. We
are just showing in ahead of our English com
petitors, and this is not the time to make radi
cal changes and derange the estimates of oul
manufactures and merchants, if ever SO little
That was the trouble with the Wood tariff. We
must take up the tariff question little farther
on. The present advantage is interviewer with
the times as they stand and rates they have
been in history
When are we to change the tariff, Mr.. Pres
ident.''
~ don't zee any other way than as the
English iberalized theirs-piecemeal.'
Have you any fears of evil-doing in the
present Congress?"
mo, they will have to adjourn March A.
too soon to plunge into follies.'