The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-06-09

suggested 10 you ouss,as or nom anything that was
said in the meeting that any OF the signatures
not genuine? A. No; tho only thing that can re-
isiana return land l cannos now remember who SAY
~ Was an expression Of lear that in the
OF the date time when they met W s
put IN instead OF tue time when the College shou Id
have met
the returns were opened, because opening IN EN-
the fact would have disclosed itself? A. Yes, sir
! remember made the remark that if any ros urn
was correct II would probably be the ono that 0lme
Q. Did you give any reason for that optus on
=. Yes .ir from tho iacs that II was made At the
Q. Can you ,eii from whom you FIRST learne cd that
there had been . corrected Kellogg return made in
louisiana A. Igot Il IRON tho messenger.
You had not heard OF IL until tins n A. Ne, Sir
T. Then this conversation winch dorsbt WAC
suggested inc corrected re,u IN ms ss
have been after tho messenger came with ~ A. 1t
must have been.
Q. DID tho messenger or anybody else say anv thing
to you about the manner IN which tho corrected Kc-
icgg return was made CORRECTLY A. No. SIR; know
q. Then il not until long after the election hat
you heard you ever did hear. any doubt expressed
~ respect 10 the authenticity OF that RETURN A..
ala not hear any doubt expressed until wiIhln lew
weeks-iour or ave weeks ago; think nrst heard IL
BY Mr. cox-I desire ycu to state now distinctly
what rule you adopted With regard 10 giving up
portunIy Tor returns 20 hack Tor CORRECTION whcro
you held last 10 those which had bcen received
A. In every Case, think, irrespective OF the States
from hch the returns came, II saw upon the face
Of inc package an iniornm'Ity called the afternoon
OF tue messenger 10 Il, rs thought Il my auty TO
both sides alike; have that Justification; caIhd
tho attention oil tho messenger 10 tho statute, and II
III, y dd IN or two cases, took Il, when IL
was once IN my hands dcccacd 10 give itup.
BY Mr. McManon-Q. You have tcsrr1cd that you
Received two sets OF Louisiana returns hs same
day, Que by mai aud ono ~ messenger Which did
you receive nrBty a. chnDst say navc NO
ord Of tho hour, but mereiyof tnc.day and have 10
recollection on the SUBJECT
2 Do you rcmenoor whether you received those
csived hem At your sOusoy A. think received
mono At my house. except IN thecaso OF North Caro-
lima, IN which ditS objected to doing II generally
because there was sc mo risk about II winch did not
Wish to take.
O. 1t tho sam e messenger that brought you the
second Louisiana return that had brought you tho
nrs. ana whose n attention you mad called g The N.
say, because did not know bin. H
SAME xKssESGERt
II was the same mtn wns II nots A. cannot
cay AS 10 that, out supp0sv 30.
Think about that, whether 10 wouldn't have
struck you as iitlc odd II another man mad
with returns IRON LourisnaY A. No, SIR; think
now u was not Inc same Inan. 's4#
Q. Di1 he exhibit 10 Aysu . appointment us
messonscr. A. Ho exnfbacd TO- mo has authority 10
The papers.
q. II the who brought you tho second kellogg
returns was not tho samo man that brought you Tho
hrst, didn't that xcite sou,e yuspcions A. NO. sir
not so long hc cxhtDnesi paper authorizing Ii i'm
q. Didn't that indicate 10 you that therc HAD bccn
n second meeting Of tho Electoral Coilcgey A. That
my mater; they might have authorized the
tamc perso 10 act az messenger.
q Then you TOOK IL ~ unled that there had bee
subsequent meeting OF the Electoral Collegef A.
know moro than that AO appoar ed with
the return and received IT..
q. When you called the attention OF the first mes
scngcr 10 tho iniormaity aud no ok tho aid
no say that no would so back TO New Orleans with II
A. No, SIR
q DO ,ou know whsiher no dsi 90 backf A. l do
z. You think that messenger was Thomas c. Ap-
dersonY A. Yes; because his name appeared tho
authority lie exhibited.
O. Thomas o. Anderson had been rather a notable
character In The politcs Of tho day, hadn't her A.
o. course no had somo noso7cty, out none tnauk.
SlnCO that time.
O. DIDN'T Il excite a suspicion In your mind, whom
on tho Sd OF January you rectAvod back Iousi
ana instead Of paper two papers CONTAINING tue
electoral vote whom only one had been taken back 10
ger ono came by mail
q. But didn't u At once excite suspicion IN your
mud that ihere was something peculiar about / DO
cnsc when only one paper had becn taken back to DO
cvrrected and you rscorvcd twoy A. Not H. because
ihc reasoning would be That II they oorrecsed II all
thcy would correct both, 70 conform tho law
tho theory shat would 90 correCtcd ANA sco
BY mail and Tho other corvCtsd and by ,nessen.
gcr. ....- ....4. ~..~.
O. After you laid tho rcsu ms before tho two houses
time Take sbe tsoubleto look AZ the ors,ns, rc-
turns from Louisanaf A. No. SIR, not until a short
time ego. ts
q We're you present any l,,ls social gather
contents OF thsss cer,lnca.es were discussedf A I
think not; 1 donr rscoiIsct IL
q DID you ever have your attention called pending
the count 10 tho acs that SGT Of
contained but one nst and tho oshcr two.iista A. No
@ When It'd you first learn THAR "A. THINK Arss
learned ~ when tLoy werc.rcAd IN tho joins Meeting
ERRoRs AND IxPosMALIriEs.
Q ! win now ask you Tor Information, and do not
wiso you TO understand that in my question that
put Intend to make anything like reflection upon
you. Was the TACT that paper OF this character
received u secret with you or was matter anou,
VIII on you talked irccIy9 A. talked about Tho d,I-
fcrent returns; remarked frequently that u was
surprising mat there were so many errors and infor-
nantes.
Y | suppose that you talked with your friends
about those informalties ana said North Carolina
Is come In aud thero are such and such info p'atios
or Maine has como IN and u Is so ana Now did
you ever mention 10 anybody that II little
queer In tho case OF Louisiana that they had taken
had como to you the day, osus by mail a nj
Que by messcpgerS A. cannot tell now may
have mentioned u Jua as IN Tho case OF North Caro-
Ina
z. Have you any recollection of any person TO
whom you mentioned III A. rave not; but l
tnius II was generally understsod that called atten-
tion 10 these matters; did tha, on both sides
A LErrEk PROM s.sAroR' MATTHEW'S
Az tho close OF M Ferry's examination tho chair
man laid before thc committee -the following letter
from Senator Matthew'S
wAsmscIos. June =. 1879
DrAa sIai have the honor 10 .csno~rdrs tho rsesin
from NJ, irv,a Ln,on Gers Of tho cs%m,stee q u,
letter ineiosins Of a resol,s ION. dissolution
orsbc committee OF the House Of Reg resentatves t,e
constrained by at duty myself ana to
the senate Of tho United states. OF which I
am member, 10 dcciiue accepting tho invitation
under the circumstances present existing hsa In
.rms,sn q tho before committee. which
rvcd reading reports thereof inrhc pic nrwspa.
pcrs when observing from their prrnssi tho
extent m and :" which they, seemed. 100 Affect
d. tcrmiucd IL due 10 myself sno tho hon ornbI BODY
wnich Ncafr sdny. tho 9th o
bring them to the attention Of the senate ia
ami alation OF personal nature matter oil
priwese moved restitution OF Inquiry which adapted
aud o which the showing Is accpy totfnw it, NAYS
lest rn.niiitra the hole matter TO thu senate which,
by the nd"ptton of the rcsolton. hsstaken ursdc,oa
entered the
slonc lar Is Is comprten, -
render effective Judgment upon the stioa.
there ore ~ your resolution invites 10 submit
committee cxpanntons Of correspoisn.n with
der-on In evidence Deiorc ~. consider IL be I'm
proper Tor mo, under tn. circumstances comply with
not oncaiy inlormcd ~ the
tion BY your committee IN reference ." wncs I am
also, by its resolution. invited and
such questions - may seem pertinent but from ihe
copy oil the resolution Ut the House
from which your committee drrive-it- existence md
minority reported In thr toaore--io1 Rerra
that N IL limited 10 inquiry alleged frauds
iu elections In Florida and Louisiana and tue cosnee,ion