New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-07-03
WEBBER's CURIOUS TESTIMONY.
jerks AND ANDERSON CONTRADICT EACH olhi'"
wEnuER's NEW STATEMENTS AND THEORIES.

wEBBER's NEW STATEMENTS AND THEORIES
WASHINGTON, July 2.-The Investigating
Committee met at 1880 o'clock this morning MI Potter
nrcsJinc General Thomas c. Anderson. of the Lousi-
ana Returning Board, recalled ana examined ny 'o
Chairman on points previously developed IN MS teSH
mOny n, 100,
nv Mr.. Morison-Did the Returning Board REJECT
any poll where there was Republican majority A.
don't recoec It think not from looking at the list
o-Can Won remember now any actual violence at any
po in Louisiana the day Of the election A 90
not know OF any; Dut heaiu 'lcIo was "
that kind in my own PARISH. - - -.a,,o.. n
O-Have you refreshed your memory, as fe!ueSSeHg
,yIep vo were previously examined regards the an
terence in the vote given for Packard and the vote gwen
for the Hayes eectorsi Al nave, and abnnf
votes by about 600 than two OF Tue electors 10 n
300 votes less than the third eiectOr ana 4OO OF 0Oo
more votes than five OF the electors Inc cause OF Cls
was mat in one or two parishes the Republican ticket
had ONLY the Dames OF three electors upon H. hd con
sequently several OF the electors lost Noes 10y tnt
take II was done by mistake ana III these PARISHES
OVER Won had rejected certain polls how did Pack
majority compare with the maiOritics or the Hayes
elcctors Ale had more votes than five electors ana
oEThen il the five electors were elected, he must
have becul At looks 50, according TO our reluIhs.
By Mr. springer-The election law OF Louisiana pre-
scrbes that an protests shall be annexed To the returns
Did the protests of any OF the super Oh
comfy with this requirement within the time prescribed
Inv law i'm any of the parishes Of Louisiana Al pre-
sumo they did but the record OF our proceedings VIII
Do YOU not know that no such protest attached 70
the returns was made within the ume pie'oIIneu Of
lM,Nll
the returns The Commissioner oi Election was
uorisb Supervisor at the Court House That Jaw was
not strictly complied with. except IN very Few par
We're not counted within twentJ-ious hours -,
Q.-DJn't you know there was but one sucn pro'-s'
IN 1.Ie iu tIc state A.-No, sir. do NOT.
By Mr. Morrison-Thcrr were certain polls No re-
turned from East Baton Rouge, ana 'ioils Nee ''c
by tho Democrats 90 have you Srud Tor thtN TO-
sir Of them; aud they were brought H. .r, ,o
C-Were they counted Al thnk MOI. Inc FoleS
T.ty
~ ia n remember why You did not send for the
bSe I'm the city Newt Orleans. where the returns NeIe
NOT made from the polls Al was not AVA III,
weI3 any polls ~ .T G,, , bad been the case; but
/ have no recollection Of any. A. 80.
Nv ur Cox-Was your authority % messenger to con
vcy The electoral vote Of the state 10 Washington ever
formally Tcvukcdi A.-N0 slr. - H.. -, .,
O--What authority would Governor Kellogg nave 10
transfer thai appointment % ANY one clsci Al uoh
know The messenger came IN my pauc' ana rs repre-
G"Nhai. If anything was held to excuse the actual
attaching Of the protest az the time anu phce Oi t,
lion! A-Alany or the supervisors al me 'oIIt ilous
tloirIt ID was not safe ION them 10 make the Pt'e- az
tIe time as they probably would rot De allowed 70 81
away with 10; aud they leii ana came 10 Ne"-O''"n9
ana cached the protest after they got tLttc. .
Q-Thc Returning Board then htid ihal u nan was
in bodily fear OF h, iie or personal sac I'M va" -
"a sufficient reason for not comply ING WIN 1he '" IN
that respect A.Meil, they gave that rs teasun oI
not complying with IL, and believe zoe bo'H ItE3,1
the protests good il they were made III Ne"-OieaS
To have failed to receive It subsequently, would
have mad successful the attempt at terrorism when
" the ruu-U of 10 . A.--ltSs SIT.
Ry Mr. UInt0n-ihesr protests were not necessarily
public were they A-lcs, sir copy Oi Them "Ou'u
O|These men Who made protests returned TO their
holmes alterward, did they not A-les, sir; ana some
OF them were killed Mt. Weber Was killed. ,,
O-Tor signing tue pro,ostl Alt was so alleged.
6-Dont You know that he went back there amt was
there some time before he was killed Al 40 Ao'
know that; bat presume he was. c.,,..
O-ILe authority conferred upon yOu by the College
6-WBgt authority had You then TO transfer that Trust
10 auybolyl Al doft know whether ] haa any;
XII. ami me Electoral College bud dissolved ana II was
Impossible for him 10 come, he could SUBSTITUTE SUING
o0Wbcn YOU failed 10 come The action u The college
IN appointing you was exhausted, @h1 ln.lT T"I w
authority 10 ntrust anybody else Win TIC ',''''
A-Not to my knowledge. ,,.t d.,
WITH regard to the vacancy in the Returning BOARD,
hlol by the Democrats, but hat they named no SUIT
'Iy InUtoB-pon what principe did you four Re
uub leans sit there 10 canvass vote Which, htc2i1s
to your own proc 7sons was very n'y ,l1' r, ~.
sentative OF the other plrI on we uOaI"i "ri,
sir were not TO blame IhciG au De'n D'' h
ON the board aud hc resigned We were legal Doa'u'
az" ~ NV opinion ia that II was not legal board without
five members; but " u not discuss mat want 20
know what reasons operated on you when mace yOuuo
cun filling the vacancy with Democrat A'-lnt on5
reason can give Is tL1t lai democrat
no IVA Won rrTgct TO any one that it was not adj
yI5ahe TO have Democrat Oh the bOari $50 si'
did not and never heard any SUGGESTION Oi ihat Ahu
made BY any member OF the board . .,,.,f, ,y,--
By the Cnairman-lf the protests were addcu III new
Orleans by the supervisors after they reached mere, you
would not have known 10 both the protest ahI me re-
turn were delivered 10 you in sealed envelopes A-No,
SIR HoarG 1, SI }IjI f me Kind ner.onally
when these votes were thrown out was ihat acuOn
iakeh il sttie W w 1 me- acted on PARISH To-
give their final decision There was no person III lIa
room except the Returning Board andlts Oihccrs'
TIE "JESKs AFFIDAVIT" a PIECE OF FORGERY.
Captain Thomas II. jerks, OF Louisiana, was recalled
.sboJ hod soon affidavit published this
morning purportng to have been signed by him, and
which was presented TO the subcommittee in New
Orleans He said: Eyes, sir hayei ana desire to
state that made any such affidavit as the one
set forth there, anything connected with such sub
iect Mr.. Anderson requested mo on two different oc-
casions TO make an affidavit the inst time was about
three DAYS after he signed this protest IN Mr. Ptkns
office. On that occasion he merely asked inc 10 swear
that he was intoxicated ana dd not know what he
signed and swOro TO before Judge Campbell, He after
ward came to me in Aprl or May aud asked me 10 sign
paper similar 10 the one set forth ~ tie affidavit"
Q.-Whcre was thati Ale approached me on one
occasion In regard to the matter and after
ward down town at the Custom House.
O-IIas this affidavit anything purpOrting 10 be
such an affidavit ever been shown you! A.-NO, sir.
O-DO you remember Mr.. McMahOns showing you u
folded paper OF when You saw Ohy ,he alkhutulCl A
Yes sir; aIrl stated that 1t was not my signature.
Tue witness told that Dir. Seymour, the notary
before whom the AFFIDAVIT purpois 10 nave gteh lahG'
mad been a witness before the committee In reply he
said he had met Mr. Seymour for the first time IN the
waitngTOom and was introduced 10 num- Mf, hey mOuf
did not recognize him. or clam to baye met nm before
witness also bad he had never gOnc before MI oCy-
mour I'm New-Orieans to make affidavit to any paper
whatever at any time.
O-DcscIibe the interview you had with Mr.. Anderson
AT your house. when he asked you 10 sign the paper re-
ferred 10 by yOu. Al lying on the sofa IN the
parOr and he III and read document 10 I1c, and
asked me 10 sign IT, and refused to do so. Then my
exact words TO him were, do you take me Tor ad--d
fOO3"
O-What was the substance OF the document he then
read to YOU AAs near as can recoleci was some
thing similar to this affidavit which IL set forth in the
morning papers, and which now testify Ineyer swOre
TO T signed
Q-What reasons did Anderson give for wanting such
"A paper Ale said lie about TO mako an open
feht on the Administration for position AMI he
was after Senator Matthews; and that nc WAS going
away and desired this AFFIDAVIT; this was probably in
May, 1877
At the request OF Mr. Cox Geographic dispatch was
sent Orleans, requesting the subcommittee 10
call before them Mr. Seymour, and examine him further
upon these points.