The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-05-04
THE 4. o. w. NOT INVITED.


A difference Of long standing between the
Roman Catholic clergy and the Ancient Order
OF Hibcrnians has been renewed. in Wow OF the
ceremonies on Sunday at tho laying OF tho cor
ner stone OF the now church OF st. Francis
Xavier. vicar-Gencral Quinn said yesterday
that he had instructed tho priests Of st. Francis
Xavier not to invite tho Hibornian societies.
He did this as the representative Of the Car
dinal, and in the belief that the Ancient Order
OF Iiibernians rs a body. by its oath-bound Sc
crecy. had placed itself under tho legitimate
condemnation Of the Roman Catholic Church.
1t made no difference that all the mombers Of
the society profcsscd to bc good Catholics. Ho
had satisfied himself that It was such society
ms the Church condemns. There had been no
special edict by the Cardinal or by himself for
tho present occasion: but. as usual in such
cases the clergy had conferred with him as TO
the persons to be invited. and he had simply
dina. and. ho believed Of the Church.
in excluding the Hbernian Order. He
believed that the, Order received its signs
He was firmly convinced that no good Catholic
could belong TO the Order without dcceiving his
bc merely benevolent organizations but its
oath bound character was one indication that
i had other objects. In a number Of eases tho
In Newark. at the laying Of the corner stone Of
church, certain cl9rgymen protested. and took
their presence. In number of places In Penn
sylyania they were not allowed tO 40 to sCrvice.
and in Milford. Mass. tho priest openly de-
nonnccd them from the pulpit
Nicar-General Quinn gave the reporter the
following extract from the decrees Of the Balt.
more Councils. upon which the opposition Of
the clergy To the Hihcrnian Order is based
on account oi very great reasons u.c Holy Ponun'
have iorndden the faithful TO enter into gn, secret 50.
hcms I've boy oath t. oh.cryc .rcrr,s tor .occi of
SUSPECT ani ihe danger ofcyl Tieflorc wc alncni.h
M .i t,, .t pc onc cap receive "a, r"snai as'a.
M n,n1 cNhor, and ns',gch ~ ~, Lo,s AL
Of ChrS, eW6 d, H. Shirh ybict s nav ur a., noir A.
@ mes M i 3 ,n i's az ,isi,n q, TX se9't
has delivered.
vicar-qcncral Quinn had no apprehension Of
any trouble. As To- the rclai lons Of the Order OF
Hihernians To- the Roman Catholic temperance
societies. he believed that the latter refused to
parade with the former last 81 PNtricks day.,
bernian Order in New York city. and il is est
mated that there are three or four hundred
thousand IN the United States, The highest
officer is John Hart. tho national delegate
Deputy Shcrin Thomas kerrgan is national
Secretary. Jom, Keenan, is the State onlccr
Deputy Surrin Patrick Gibncy the county dele
gate and L lward L. Carey the national Treas
urer. Terence Riley is President of the order
in the city Of New York.
order has the greatest love and esteem for the
clergy. For himself. h. has the gr"niest rcver-
tu't LOT wear -htAtldl AgNlNNs ana YET no De-
loves that geMtl man mistaken as to the order.
| There J. nothing in II that a good Roman Cath
! Ollie cannot subscribe to. Its objects ara purely
| benevolent, and the order explicitly repudiated
| the Molly Nagulres two Years ago. Moreover
| six counties IN Pennsylvania have been dscon-
ncctcd with the order inr the express purpose
/ Of relieving il OF any suspicion Of collusion
| with the Npllios. He had no doubt that at tho
! next meeting - the National Convention al
| Boston. on the 18th Of May. the entire question
| OF the relation of til" order to the Roman Catho-
| lie Church would be determined. He knew that
the membcrs were indv lually connected with
| times contributed us body 10 the erection
| Of Roman Catholic churches. and had
| Kept NJ generous rivalry with the Temperance
| societies in making subscript ions Tor religious
| purposes. He knew of cases in which the
| Catholic clergy mad come into the societies and
| collected money. Fathor IInffran Of Sag Har-
| Dor had been In No. FOR That purpose. The
| Bishop OF the Dio sese Of San Francisco had no
| oli.ct u 10 the Order; neither hah the Bishop
| clergymen in this city. whose names he did no,
| care 10 give, who favored the Order. A. TO the
| position taken by. Nicar-G Gcn"ra Quinn. for
| whom he expressed the greatest love. he could
only say thnt he WIS sorry for H. and that he be-
| lieved II was founded on misappr.hcnsion. lie
| had understood that at the laying Of the corner
! stone Of the Cathedral the Order contributed
| about 81 400: that they were nj the laying Of a
| cornerstone in Twenty seventh street; that
| they wore AT the laying II the corner stone o.
the PAulst Churfh in Fiity-nnth street two
years ago. and that all the members OF the
fortythr"e divisions in New York city are good
Catholics, nnl viii continue SO, and are all ops
posed 10 Molly Magurcisn. and any other law
lcs-ness.