Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-07-26

He Relates His Part in the Compilation of
the Louisiana Returns-And Insists That
Everything Was Square and Above Board
He Denies tha Authenticity of the
Anderson-WeberC Conversations and Let
ters-And Submits Letter to Hayes Ex-
planning the Programme-How the Per-
jurers Have Been Provided for bv the
observation-disclosures Statement of the
Transaction.
ATLANTIC CRY, N. j., July 25.-Secretary
Sherman resumed his testimony this morning
before the Potter committee. There was, as
on previous occasions, large attendance. The
secretary was Intercepted by Representative
Hiscock, and said that on the 18th of Novem-
Der the visiting Republicans called on the re-
turning board to pay their respects, having
understood the visiting Democrats had paid
similar visit of courtesy the day before. The
Republicans stated they came to New Orleans
at the request of President Grant and of politi-
cal organizations to witness the count. not to
interfere with the official duties of the board,
and they expressed the hope that the proceed
ine7s would be conducted openly. The board
adopted resolution inviting FIVE gentlemen on
each side to be present wit nesses of the
proceedings. The Republican visitors thought
the Democratic visitors more than they were
mingled with the board examin-
ing papers. In all other respects the conduct
of both parties was the same. Shortly
after the board commenced their business ses-
sions the 10Th of November, and testimony
began to be taken under the rules, it becam e
necessary to prepare heterogeneous and CROSS
interrogatorles. The visiting Representativ es
eneavored to procure copies as fast as they
could ON the Republican side. AS these ac-
cumulated rapidly the work of the examining
OF bulldozed parisees was divided, Cortland
Parker being assigned to East Feliciana, Gen.
Garfield to West Feliciana. Mr.. Hale to East
Baton Rouge, Gen. White to Washidan and
publican visitors designated five persons to at
tend the board in pursuance of the invitation.
, The first day the witness attended.
@. Did you or any of your associates meet
privately with any member or members Of the
board? A. 1 reply emphatically no..
was never privately or alone
with any member of the board. l treated the
members as would have treated any other
court or tribunal before which / appeared
either witness or advocate-ate dinners with
them and other guests, but never alone. /
never mentioned the duties of the retur ming
bard or alluded to an investigation or Protest
to any member of the returning board while !
house several times, but never transacted any
business there.
Q. When you were in New Orleans did YOU
meet u. A. Weber? A. l do not remern be,
meeting either him or Anderson except in a
casual way. / met hundreds of persons with.
out their making particular impression on
my mind. l have somewhat indefinite recol-
lection that Weber and Anderson came to me at
a restaurant and engaged iri short, consequential
talk, and then went away. Mr.. Stoughton ~ss
present with me. DO not think eversaep them
BEFORE
In response to a question, Sherman denied
emphatically the truth of the testimony OF
Jas. E. Anderson alleging conversation be-
tween Sherman and Weber and Anderson. in
which it was represented that Sherman said
u wanted to see you, gentlemen, as there was
some difficulty In reference to your parishes
Now this is a crisis in which not only Louisiana
but the whole country is involved, and it is 8
time when we, expect every true patriot tc
going t. do that thing well S' Mr. sh aae
m an, said Weber, 'Mr. Anderson and I have
al ready done more than the circumstances al
t u case would warrant us IN doing, and have
doRe a great deal more than safety would war
rant me in DOING Said he: "What do YOU nea,
by that?" Weber replied: '"Yhe PEOPLE of m,
parish are considerably worked up, and bavt
made protest which is perhaps more sweepina
than it should have been, and if l go back
will be undoubtedly in danger of my life. >
Wv We'll sad sherman, What necessity is there
is there; my wife and children are there: mn
| property is there. What an to sio?n To til.
| above he said he never had such conversation
de never coula have made Il speech about con-
trolling patronage, nor did anybody mention
to nm an.Jthing of the forged protest. Ht
! never heafH- OF such thing, and when in New
orleans ne was very careful in his expressions
as we've his associates. Secretary Sherman was
shown the letter alleged to have heer
written to him by Weber anc
Anderson, dated November 20, 1876, and sale
he never received such letter, and never saw o,
heard OF 1t until 1T wss published. when, ,
| said the secretary, this matter came to m,
knowledge, sent to my home in Ohio for ny
paners to be forwarded to me in order that
might find the original of the letter, if it was
there. Such aletter could not have been sent tc
me without my knowing it. Any such letter
would have excited my resentment The letter
on Its face is insulting.
Alt is suggestive of falsehoods and exceed
ingly improper. They said: s'We have care.
fully considered the argument advanced BY
you in our interview. Your assurance that we
| shall be taken care of is scarcely specific
enough. In case we pursue the course suggest
ed by you we would &c Obliged to leaye the
State. Will you, therefore, state in writing
who we shall look to for the fulfllment of these
promisess
| In response to further questions Secretar,
Sherman said he never suggested employment
for any service they might render in connec
ton with the returning board or in any other
way, nor was any promise of reward ever init
mated. With reference to the alleged reply
Secretary Sherman said most emphatically he
did not write such letter; at the same time
however, as he stated when this investigation
began. there were things in it that he would
have written to those or any other men who
were engaged in the performance ofswhat b,
| believed their duty, if he had been asked, hui
he did not think he wrote the letter. He be-
| lieved he did say in conversation with various
gentlemen that all Republicans in Louisiana
VINO stood by their guns deserved credit. If hi
had been citizen of Louisiana he would prob
ably have been killed, for he should
have resisted the rife club, who, in addition t,
other crimes, drive negroes from their homes
| to the swamps. His conversations on that
subject were similar to the remarks he had ut.
tered in the Senate, and he would make then
in New Orleans to-day. [Applausea by the
audience. There never could be peace ano
quiet while these things occurred. In the fall
of 1876. in louisiana, scores of cases of in
timidation, and violence and wrong took place
He could not think of these occurrences, ever
! now, without feelings of resentment and with
| out exciting his anger. The testimony wa
| overwhelming.
Secretary Sherman, in reply to question
handed in memorandum detailing the cir
| cumstances of Andersons visit to him at tn
! treasury department in March last, and givin,
an account Of the conversation as noted at TIL
time by the secretarys stenographer. In tn
course of the colloquy Secretary Sherman, il
reply to Anderson, said he did not remember
certain conversation, to which Anderson re
piled: s'If you don't, then there is no use il
my recalling it,
Secretary Sherman-What did you talk wit
me about in that interview?
/ Mr.. Anderson told you I had come t
Washington to seek for place. You told m
you had no place in the department. for me.
told you did not care for place in your de
partment. I came for place in the State dc
partment, and you told me to go t
Mr.. Evarts. I told you I had BEEF
+r Eparts and wanted vour endorsements on