The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-10-28

NrntiOn he did not bcipV,, in the doctrine und
should not attend the meetings Even If tho
doctrine were trup he thought II comnorntivriv
unimportant and that such men as hrs Tynr
anu br9ukrs were cKaggrrating it out Of all
re Roy Dr. " IT. PaSi"n p 'l' N tbe First
Presbyterian Church 1T FINN avenue and fiev.
chil street. said: nm not a Second ADVENTIST
and dOnt know that have any vicws TO nx'
press on the subject. Tho men getting up this
mona thcs. Vows are generally very sincere and
honest. Az FAR Us regards the ir.shyierinns n
man may be orthodox aid hold tl tn" doctrine:
hut h" would be moro orthodox il he did not
rntcrain II. Or. Craven IL "A very nhln man
l'r Brookes very eloquent man. md DR.. West
very learned. nat mink they would have more
influence II they did not hold these views The
conference.-the undoubtedly call together many
prisons; Ihs tone r. very Interesting To every
one cut 10 not believe IN exciting tho public
inlnd on the snmrtL think the tendency Of
ThSoogcG seminary: TRc rropcr Fl na nnsV "
those who believe In tho personal coming ~
thrlst before The millHnni1m Il prc-ni biennial
MWhtlsts. Ihey age called millrnniarians. hut
nll Christians are Milcnniariaus for they hc-
i"ve n ne millennium. Ih"y nre also called
Second Adventisls; hutull Christ ans are Second
Advent ats. for they hclicNr in the second COM
ing Of Christ Tho dividing noint ia that these
people believe in the personal and pre-millcn-
nal coming Of Christ. 10 my mind
is 4 very rrud" belief. and unteua-
hle. Now. they claim that the doctrine
= established Historically that the anti Niccne
Church. the church II thc first three centuries
Was pre-mllcnnArian This is not true. Whilo
u.
majority " fathers wrr" opposed 10 H. and ms
soon as the doctrine was alta ked II WINS put
Own me nrsi man TO aiiark II was Caius.
about the year ga. and then Origcn was strong
~ opposed 10 u. All through the hiatory uf the
1hur'h II appears that the doctrine iiourshed
IN tliurs oi outward trouble or docleusiou. This
explains the reason II nourished III the anti
Nicene Church. which was constantly pcrSe-
cutcd. The doctrine seems to hc ginning now
and Il gains most whore Biblical scholarship is
not the highest though to hc sure there are
some good scholars among the leaders of this
4rn- mil IsHtt ttar
ans are ant to he old school rrrsbyt,riaus and
rather pcssimistic in their views. 1t is now
sad 10y some that the Westminster diNtss
were 50 many Of them pre- mllennArians
that thcy did not shut the doctrine out rom
IN" standards; hut in regard to the standards
hr'-mil.rhnihranisn Is not IN harmony with
tn" Presbyterian system Or with the missionary
system Those who reject The doctrine do It IN
Inc general ground that 20 look for the coming
ot Christ as Indispensable to the triumph ~
Christianity isa confession that historic Chris
tnnity is failure. To me tins IL dreadful
confession believe tho doctrine nm error but
not fundamental error The Church does not
d!srinline tor IT, Think it plays INTO tho hands
~ inidols. for IL conf'es's that Christianity
y failure. | told you So. says the luNdrl.
The true power is civilization II the
uropher"d thn they would elect the next lr"-i-
dent and failed to DO So thoy wol'd los" their
claim To iuspi ration. SO with Christianity. II
claims IT. eventual triumph ~ the same line II
march = has been following II ms these p"oIlo
claim. Il is not 20 uinmph. but tho world If get
ting worse then Christianity r. a complete tall
patty with it,
Tie Rev. Dr. Edward MeGlynn. pastor ~ st
Stephens Roman Catholic Church AZ li9 Est
rw"uty-cightl street. said TINT he hal given
very little attention to the RLuuuu cement II The
mcnis # i- leaders. " The dottrine. he sn'l.
finds mo- favor whatever with the tatholi - Of
with Catholic th'olo s!qils. am u.t pteparnd
demn.l Us hcrcti nj hy t1e Caiho.. Chur D !:
| vt IL i- ahhorrcnt 70 the minds oi al. 10th "
thcolo SiRns and of the uulenrncd. cath ollie th"o-
nf one flnl IN Inc fII 40 mo
| doctrine of Chlhasm or mili"nuiariau ~m " IS
! simply - Judaistic origin in the ,arly CHRIS
| uHu church, and Wa sort ol salyn for tho
,emuoral Il 'da.n"r or Messiah VII" sh"uli
/ restore the Kingdom Of Judah and make
/ his faithful followers the rulers Of Il
subject world. The doctrine Of tho Second
material II is based largely upon the material
and literal interpretation OF passages 81 Scrip
| mat are plainly hgurauye AMI a i'sorical. The
! doctrine. to my mind. has no clear warrant in
The teachings 81 Christ and his apostles while
! Iiain texts ot - Paul. for instance. show his
mind On the suhi-t to have been that the
! coming ui Christ was simply to rather up his
iaithiui from inl@ Worlc io purely spiritual
I and eternal existence ia the kingdom 81 heaven.
| KNOW that in' of tn Mth - 81 tHe
/ second century. among them 81 lreruus.
held the do.tlue ns t,nsl lr opinion
expressly acku6wIe.igcs tiint piCus ana
/ learned mon IN tnr thur IN wrro opposed
| 10 his view. The surr-t guide FOR Catholics has
been tAe doctrine Of ule Roman Church. winch
parti q ar,y significant that in the second cen
| igry. Cnius, priest II "a" Roman church. WAS
! the most distinguished and strenuous oppo-
hrni 81 NE do,ulnr IN qu'-, ~.
Aifcr the third century continued Father
MrtuNnn; ther' !. s'Nr'ely an "'r,usasil al
trine. No Catholic to-day could defend II with
ont rashn"ss, md without giving greet shock
70 tue sentiments Of all ,'athohcs. 81. Jerome,
the great light Of the Roman Church IN tho
ienih ccn'ury 5prnkinE. 10 doubt, the mind
II that Chur'h and ~ tie Catholic world uuerly
/ Ttlriflatfb the doctrine. W. lnh4futs.s 10
dcmn too har-hl} me llou- men who AT an ear
,,cr day l'. helI q" opinion, he:ore CMhoii,,,
Tine Roy. Dr. T. II, Chaplin, minister Of the
CnivelsSll-t church ~ n" Divine Paternity,
said: don't know ANYTHING about the Con-
ference. haven't give II "A thought for don't
believe IA that do'irino at all. i should nudge
part that the Conference VI be an interesting
one. The doctrin" Is an old one. you know. In
the year LOCO 1t was thought that then the
you remember the later excitement the Mil
lerites got up. Still am not a. all opposed 10
the Conference; 1t is good plan u air all
The ltey. Dr. William ormlston, pastor Of the
Reformed Dutch Church a. Finh avenue and
I Twenty ninth street. hadn heard word said
about ia" Conference. II II was had in the
reht way i might DO some good; The views
not considered strictly orthodox. or rather. II
was not held X those who were c93nsidtrel
ards 81 the Presbyterian Church against il.
Many clrrGymrn OF the church OF England held
N. ana some OIL MS NfJlii-n iffilftl. II was 70
his mind An un certain doctrine. " will make
inquiries and find out what they are going
t. Do. and perhaps | shall attend said Or,
| Ormi~tOn.
The Row DR.. George II. II uworth, pastor u
the Congregational Church 81 the Disciples.
was NJ usual, ouisp1 ken. " have no sympathy
with this doctrin" y.u speak ~ - lie said. " 1t
In speculative theory. beautiful, po"ti hl. and
Nil tliHt. / guess am too practical and matter
u h't. believe - pn}IuE more attention a.
the first coming II CHRIS. Ii ! can get my peo-
pie TO attend tnthAt L. live and Act according 10
, the example uri-t lett Them. thon | will hr con-
tent to leave the rest with the Lord. He will
take care Of H. DO not believe that the world Ia
growing worse The idea is an inf uit 10 Chris
tiGnity. II Is an insult too, 10 say, MS has been
sad, that the coming Of the Lord will not
make any din renro 20 New York city;
that Ho will lake his people ny with
hin-a very few aud that business will go on
Ju-t the same. The banks will be open, the law
Offices filed Wall street thronGed. and even the
churches will 70 ont What sort Of IA royal pro-
c-ssion II this that the Lord In getting up. that
the business men ~ New York are not going 20
be in ~ II the world IL getting worse, then
there il something out ~ loint-n screw loose IN
the universe; then the last eighteen hundred
years are 4 failure. ! think the effects IT this
Conference will bo bad upon the sturdy, matter
of-iact business men Of the city. 1t will be Mt
tended chiefly by a class Of sentimentalsts.
And what Is II going 10 amount TO II It decides
nothinK3 II these people can set n time for the
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