The Portland daily press., 1878-06-14

another letter from Anderson, the witness pro.
duced two letters He stated that he had no
particularly friendly relations with Anderson.
He had advised him on points, and had ap.
pointed his brother in the custom house at Bal
timOre.
Another letter from Anderson to Smith was
read by Butler, enquirng whether Matthews
saio anything to him regarding the appoint
tom of his (Auderson's) friend to the posi-
ment of clerk in the Philadelphia custom
house, and upon being asked whether he
(Smth) replied to that letter, said it was his
recollection that he did, and stated that he had
not heard from Mr. Matthews on the subject.
Mr.. Butler called the attention OF the witness
to bis testimony in which he stated that Mat
thews had written the President from Cincin-
natl recommending the appointment Of Ander-
son, and asked him if that was the letter on
file
Q-Don't you think it very unfortunate that
the letter is lost?
A-No sir, l do not
Smith said be appointed Anderson's brother
to q cerkship in the Baltimore custom house
on Matthew recommendation.
Butler, after further unimportant questions
regarding the missing letter, enquired of smith
if he was in conference with the counsel last
night, to which he replied, Il do not under
stand your question"
Butler (pointing to Judge Shsllabarger, couu-
sci for Mr.. Sherman)-Do you know that gen.
tlemau?
Smith-No sir.
Q-Do you know Judge Wilson?
Al do not know whether do or not.
Mr. Cox objected to the question of Butler
and Butler in reply stated that he did not pro-
pose to be reproved further by the gentleman
from Ohio, this being the third or fourth time
it bad occurred.
Whe1eupon Mr. Cox said that when occasion
in his mind prompted it, he would certainly
continue to offer his objections
The witness was further cross-examined BY
Mr.. Butler, bat no Developments were made,
the witness corroborating his previous test
mony in every particular.
Q-By Mcmahon, You examined the
records at the Executive Mansion this morning
and you ind that the Connecticut letter was
referred to the Treasury department at what
date?
A March 10, 1877
ON regard to that letter of Secretary
Sherman addressed to the COMMITTEES did he
show you the letter the committee had ad-
dressed to him?
A.-No sir.
Q-Give as the language that passed be-
| tween yon and Secretary Sherman the day you
| got together when this letter was written?
A.-As near as can remember when went
in L said that had received comm uncation
from the Appointment clerk requesting him to
send these letters TO him as he wished to ex-
anime them, and I had thought it best to wait
on him in person and bring the letters with me.
Secretary Sherman theu said to me that he
wished to examine himself whether these
letters were official or not. l replied that was
m after had decided for myself whether the
letters were personal or not, but had no OBJ
jecton to his seeing the letters if he wished.
That is all the conversation Then | submitted
the letters to him and he read each one him
self
Q-Now how was it that the Connecticut
letter written on the 9th or Sth of March TO the
President was sent to the Treasury department
and then to the State department. How did it
come to be sent to the Treasury department
where be was not an applicant for position
until two months afterwards?
A.-They may have sent it not being aware
that he was an applicant at the State depart
ment. l will say as an expert if you wish
that the Treasury being the departm ent of the
government in which the largest number of
offices at large are that wien there is no
special place named by the applicant they ara
very apt to send snch letters there. That
matter however is discretionary with the
Presidents secretary, and he may not at that
time have known of the application to the
State department or remembered it.
Gin dealing with Anderson did you act
upon the Connecticut letter?
A.-No sir. l never saw that letter till last
week. 1t was filed in the Treasury before
was appointed clerk. was appointed May 1,
1877. l was not aware that this letter was on
the files.
Q-What official papers had Anderson on
file to your knowledge on which you based
your lubbutlOu u dppUlub ulul " tuIS pldC6 butG
you picked out2
A-Nothing whatever to base it on except
that letter of Matthews to me. [ acted on
that solely.
Q-And the particular letter on which you
acted is lost?
Ayes sir.
Q-And the letter which you wrote in reply
to that particular letter on which you acted
you have no copy of?
Al wrote no letter in reply to that think.
tho AL
Ale did not give any reason, but was
very emphatic and showed great disgust or
aversion.
,Q-Give us as near as you can what the
President said
A-Ican only give the substance. 1 went in
to tell him Senator Matthews had recommend
ed this young man, political refugee from
louisiana for an appointment IN the Treasury
aud that had offered him a minor place and
that he had declined positively taking any
place in the Treasury uoless he could have
larger salary, something like $4,000, and that
he told me if l was to see him 1.-THE PresdeDt L
would understand that he was to have larger
dent declined seeing him. He said be was lot
aware that any recognition of that kind of his
services was required. He disavowed all
knowledge of any such understanding.
Q-What understanding? You must have
conveyed some understanding.
A-Of any promise. This gentleman claimed
that there had been promise to him PERSONAL
ly of place that Senator Matthews and the
President would know of.
Q-The President disclaimed it?
A-Yes
Q-What did he say about his being fit
man to appoint to any place?
Ale said nothing about it. understood
the President to convey the idea that there was
no objection TO appointing him to a minor
place. He did not iostrucs me not to appoint
n N asmuch q / named In him th At | had
offered him that place certainly understood
1 could appoint him to that place without his
objection.
Odd the President say to you or convey to
you that you should not appoint MIN!
A-No, no more than that he showed this
aversion to having anything 70 do with the
man.
Q-How did he show il?
A-Bg the emphatic way in which he declia-
ed to see him.
Q-Gve us the words?
Al cannot. L can only give you the i'm
preston left Cd my mind
Q-DO you mean for US to understand that
ali the President declined to do was to recon-
mend him for higher place?
A-An he declined to do was to countenance
ms being put in higher place.
why did 1t never occur to you to 90 and
see Secretary Sherman as chief of that Depart
ment?
A-For the reason that when 1 would go to
JILL WIN 'nse 'uor appluVueuI5 no WouIu
say. 81 cantt attend to that Smith; [ can't be
bothered with appointments"
Q-Stll here was man that had been down
in Louisiana where Sherma an had been and had
performed valuable services, why then did you
not go aud see Sherman?
A.-Because the man would not take the
appointment L offered.
Q-But when be claimed higher one why
did you not goand see him then?
A-Because his claim did not think was
tfarf hat al noe Ghapn NJ CT.
tenton.
Q-Still you took the trouble to go and see
the Presi ient2
Al did. he asked me to. If he had asked
mo tn nAf To L han