New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-06-14
BUTLER HARRIES A WITNESS.
HE Is HARRIED IN RETURN MR.. CoX-GENERAL
sNfIruia Testimony

1880 o'clock by calling as the first witness General T.
c. II. Smith, late Appointment Clerk Of the Treasury
Department. who was on the stand when the commit
| tee adjourned last evening.
| In reply to questions OF General Butler, General
Smith stated that he had found copy OF the telegram
that inquired about the previous evening but no
| letter Of Mr.. Matthews. He described the way OF
disposng OF letters which came to the Department. and
said the search still proceeding This morning he
had requested Mr. johnson to look over the letters ana
| IN he should find any such letter from Mr. Matthew's
| recommending Anderson the committee would DO III
the witness said he had himself received couple Of
| letters from Anderson asking about Office. ,oa a.,
Odd you 20 the President alter you received the
! first lctteri Ayes, sir.
o3Dd Won 20 TO the President about Anderson after
You received his second letter A.-No, sir never
had but interview with the President IN regard 20
Mr. Anderson, and that was when took Anderson over
| there at the request OF General Butler.
Q-You wrote a letter, did you not, inclosng TO Mr..
! Matthew's one mat Anderson gave yOul Ayes, sir.
o-And YOU told me last night that you did not know
anything that tdat letter containodi Ayes, SIR mat
! l. my rccolectiOn. think that he wrote that etter
| in consequence OF being disappointed by my communl-
eating TO him the contents " the letter yesterday
This Is the state OF facts Iht proposed 20 give Az
derson an nspect0rship; that he was satisfied win II
until lac inquired at Baltimore regarding me duties OF
that mspecOrshp; that then he wrote 10 Matthews al
though first he had expressed himself IN terms OF sat
sfactiou In To his interview with me- After ~
curing at Baltimore he became dssatl'Isd WIN ls
position, and wrote to Mir Matthews Then wrote
70 Mr. Matthews asking MIN about t9s case ana Gins
him OF Anderson's dissatisiacOu. lneh MI. Maltne@s
writes IN reply and give him the text OF at letter
| lp
winch Matthews says that II Anderson Is not salts
] ded with the position 10 drop him.
Q.At the same lime you offered Anderson the place
! Of inspector at Baumorei Ayes, sir.
O-By the letter daIed from Washington 10Th June,
! ward hummer etc wants to be provided with place,
he can Lave place. That letter he gave you To for
warl 10 stanley Matthews, aid ne nott A-No, SIR.
did not know that De did IL is my impression mat u
the other letter lac gave me to forward to Mat
Q-Did Mr. Anderson express his dissatisfaction with
tht appointment you offered 10 HIM nc the timet Ale
the Treasury NJ recollection Is THAI wheg named inc
nspectorshp he liked that ioea better IL was after
went 10 the President that told him again that c0ud
give bm no other place than Sl2OO clerAshlp OF an
QVierc Is letter Of July II, 1877, addressed to YOU
Dta SRI withdraw my application for position
I'm your department aud ask oou IN lieu the reof an ap-
spect"r Of tie custom House AZ Baltimore This wiz be
satisfactory 10 mt VIZ JAMES t. ANDERSON"
VIII Won now state 10 This committee whether that I'm
your gment was leterabput aulOicial matter TO an
official apsonal letter from ono person 10 another
saw also That il has been communicated to my official
superor- and that thoy took the same view.
'EMr DEAR GESEIl1L: Has senator Matthews sent
awning To- you or mhde any atrang3InPnt Win you o
Collaborating the Custom House IA this city Please
answer ut Tho earliest pFacuca9c moment ana oCt8e
bid You answer thati Al cannot rccoilcct; but
OF 20 happened With tho exception Of the Conn let
ter there never my official com muncation 80 dr as
ter from Senator Matthews was an official one 80,
QIf here any official letter, then II got lost "a
Yes, slr
ILLUSTRATIONS or BUrLER's STYLE.
short discussion here arose between the members OF
the committee about this being equivalent TO nu order
OF appointments, in which Dir. Mcmahon, Mr.. Cox aud
Mr. Butler took active part Mr. Cox concluded the
discussion by remaraug that he bad referred in his re-
maris only 10 method OF trying cause here. not IN
the usual way but by nnucndo. Mr. Butler instantly
replied that be had not been ryng cause by innuendo
Q-Upou whose accommodating to you was TINS
mau who n personal correspondent WIN YOU ana
not IN Official correspondence. app9imedt Al do not
know TIE nance lucio were lNO e. tHa' l,co
mendcd John NJ. Anderson 10 Colonel Thomas Tor APP
Q.-Up1n whose recommendation did you make the
SUI gcstiOu that AudcisOu's brother should be aI-
OF Matthews There stiIl that letter.
Q.-rnat letter was not lost. then Al do not
knew knew It's contents aud md not have to refer
Q-IIaye you got that letter SIr. Matthew'S wrote you
Al do not know that Mr. Matthews knew that up-
pointed NM 90 not know OF any letter frOunhim -
Q.-Why, then, did you appoint his nrothcrf Al ap-
pointed hun on the recommendation oil Mr. matthews IN
Q.-And upon the suggestion OF Jamesl Ayes, sir
/ suggested u 10 Colonel Thomas
Odd ne get recommendations sufficient 20 appoint
him because james recommended him No. sir
because James had been rycommended Tor the appoint
meat, aud that would satisfy him entirely.
Q--Were you ~ coni'S w ast night WIN the eon,
Q-Iheie is only one counsel VINO mas been allowed
here DO you know this gentleman who sits here point
IN. i
but not know his name II that Is the gentleman you
did meet nun last night but mad no CONVEX
saton with him about THIS case or at any other time.
nor during my enure natural life. lLaugnter.l
Q.-Do you know jeremiah ~ WIisonl Al do not
know whether do or not.
isWORD-PLAY BETWEEN cox AND BUTLER.
Mr. Cox-I object TO the OF the examination,
When We began here thought that my friend and col
league entered into tho spirit OF the motion that made,
that the counsel might be allowed to appear and take
from the labor OF examining witnesses. The arrange
Kra. m die hat Dp IL
pear order properly TO AID us IN this matter, and II
TINS Is TO be made part OF the prosecution ana we are
told for any witness 10 nave cOnYersed with counsel
rpped viii simply say il is going further than ever
knew any prosecution 10 90 before. To say nothing Of
the conduct OF judicial tribunal; and, nasmuch as
TINS witness has frankly stated not know the
counsel personally, think TINS the most proper
slou To cali attention to the fact. wish to dis
unctly, that We sit here as an mycstgauns tribunal,
aud to me We ought To remember that We have
something OF the character o judges aud the tone Of
this examination has seemed ~ me not 10 be IN that
view, whatever else 1t is.
MIR. Butcr-Ihls is the second time that the gentle
mau from OmO has chosen To undertake. mere IN tue
presence OF the committee TO comment upon me aud my
which made me MS inferior, IRON WhOh ! must
comment aud ho did not produce It, aud Thought
It hint to him that lie had better not do It any more
objected, but have not yet seen IT, and do noe pro-
pose take anything OF thus sort except IN tue way II
should be taken, as-sInpy won't trust myself 10 the
particular wOru Of charac erizatOn Or IT, because that
rights and power here that no has, ana have only the
responsibility to myself ahd my constituents IOr my
don and will not submit 10 the assumption OF reprOOL'
know my duty and my position as well as ne docs and
have uad much experience IN courts Ol justice as he
mas am only behind him IA one KIND OF experience.
and that no consequence here. have never boon
al the head OF department with clerks under me, and
In re ore perhaps have not learned an oyorlearug
manner 10 those Wrn whom am associated ON au
equality. The United States IS here without counsel
EXCEPT As We tue counsel or judge-adyOcate We
are more Ike tho judges OF the French Courts VINO
examinations themselves. tcel bound 10 make
leso remarks, because do not choose tnat THIS I'M
pleasant matter shall 10 1 never nave sald one
word except in reply but now long ball remain on tue
defensive IA question between me ana my conscience
6iNr CO1-ln ,nattrr OF this Kind where puUc Opn-
ION with regard political NestlgatOn Is apt more