The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-06-09
TIE CONSPIRACY OF 1916.
FRESH PROOFS or TIfE INTQUTTY THAT
GEyERSED THE PEOPLES VIII.


Louisiana for uayes - STANLEY Matthews
Hefnsinx to Testify Summoninr HIN 10
Appenr-Mr. Uutier's Vigorous Demand.
Two hours were consumed in the endcaVOr
% get Strengthened out tho ENHANCEMENT in re-
gard to the printing OF the two Louisiana GER
tlAcates In the volume OF the proceedings OF the
electoral count. Certificate No. l. which Mr..
Leviscc identified IA containing his genuine
signature. contains only single statement-
that the electors voted for President ana
Vice president while certificate No. g.
to which Lcvisec says his signature is
forgery. contains the double statement
Of the vote for President and OF the vote for Vice.
President II appears in both the printed
volumcs-thc one in quarto form correspond
ing with the Congressional Record. ana the one
in octave form. II Is only No. 3 that is printed
OF this curious fact the only explanation that
could be- offered by Mr.. VI kinney. the Secrc-
tary Of tho Electoral Commission. was that tho
printed copies Of 1 and were nearly
identical in tho first pago that in gathering
together the copies that were not used they got
mixed up together-there being no printed
number to distinguish them-and that when
he handed to Mr.. Murphy. the official steno-
grapher the copies TO be- printed In the appen-
dix. he had given him two of the same Kind. in
strad Of two of different kinds. That was the
eubstance Of Mex lnney's testimony this morn
ing. He added that some five or six weeks ago
Mr. Garfield Of Ohio asked the witness whether
he recollectcd the difference between certificates
Nos 1 and 3. Mr. McKlnny did not
nj first recollect it, but when he and
Mr.. Garfield wont to comparing the
certificates in the printed volume.
the recollection OF the difference came fresh
upon him. and he explained It to Mr.. Garfield
and furnished him with separate copies. II
was in procuring these copies from the store
I...l 4,
,,ror ,hot he discovered how the two sets Of
1..n,,,. ,,r,ieca,es hod ,,ot ri,ed ond that
disclosed to him how he had made the mistake
in furnishing comics TO Mr. Murphy. Mr. Gar
Held said TO MN. You VIII see the importance
Of this thing probably. in day or two" and he
gerry of one of the certificates,
In tho examination 10y Mr. Mcmahon. Mr.. Cox
accused Mr.. Mcmahon Of assuming that he WIS
Mcmahon said thnt Mr. Cox was entirely mis-
taken. and that he tCoXl was assuming u role
entirely foreign to him. namely. " II defender Of
fraud"
A, h. Levisee, recalled. explained his motive
in dallying with the persons who proposed 70
bribe him. He desired first. to find out
whether il was a real attempt 70 bribe or merely
an attempt to try his integrity: and. second
who the parties were. II there was any real in,
tent 10 brbe; and. third. in that case to detain
the negotiations MS long as possible. so that they
might not drop him in despair and seek n more
ihat he was simply acting as broker that il the
negotiation succeeded he expected TO get $1,000
H. had no idea who 1t WIS that forged wit
ness''s name to the electoral certificates. His
recollection was very distinct as To the place
whore he signed his name. but not so distinct as
tothe number OF times he signed it. He added
haps eight or ten or n dozen times all told. My
recollection Is perfectly distinct that we signed
December. That ia the only place and the only
tine at Tfh ever ,s signed any p"pfrs % hls hs
inspect oil the ballots after they were cast. but
he heard them Tend as they wore taken ont Of
te hat ana MI ha1 Inc ne u0uIt t @ mere
The Hon. Thomas W: Ferry who as fresl-
dent 9 tne e. Sena,e petEeI IN tt Wv b w,s
nor in which TIE returns from tnr ,d!iicrent
sates had beahea e d,,,r MN ioI sTn I@s on
Ieceia,nk WI 1,ri & ,darsI AL, hn hid no ~,
accept y because thappeairel 10 Do Do In,ornln. NO @
Al did not decline / asked him whether
he was familiar with the statute. and whether
is wns VIII ro NJ IN hip R po,ntgd nr ou
the return. adopted the practice in all cases
sde Of the packace To call the attention of the
messenger 10 il. II the. messenger insisted
Id"l Ide"llinsd 10 part with il again for Correction
or f9r any purpose until II was laid beiore the
Odd you at any time learn from anybody
tha, the Louisiana return first presented was
ueerVe III @ VIM psid.9 nut on s otes ioI
knew nothing Of IT,
,Q-When did you ilrst near OF mat; any time
o,r,,u ,ri,a raaar,i,. .x..i,,, No orraarcJ il,
n Nt, f"s,t ., = , 49,, -, -, ,i,,, - - ~. o"
nv 'Nuu. vi course dnn ''EHlt.iut VI lu"t.
Q-Dld you know from anything tnat nhd
been suggested to you outside, or from any
thing that wns said in the Joint Meeting that
7ftha si,,not,,rae ,rara NOT repnfpa2
W Il w .hi. v. r - --o,aanra a.. -.
~ W." ohly t!ihE nm oah 'in-liIpcl ipl tINe
was sad IN relation 10 tne second LOUISIANA re-
turn land cannot now remember VINO said III
was an eXpressOn Of a fear that In the cOrrec-
ton nj Tho r.turns the dnte Of the time when
,h.r ~ n, - - IL, i,s.oo1 al, ,ha ,i,,a ,,ha,
NJ II no puts u, lhSNNaN VI '"S Univ "H0n
ule co..rge shpulu nave met -
Q-lhht expression ot lear must nave Deen
before the returns were opened, because on
opnnine them tho fact would have disclosed il
saf9 A -Yes air T rnmemher I mnde tho re-
rna~i, r. a. ,. ~ 80 arra, 1, ,ro,,i5
matA tha' ~ any rctuIH was coIIe' IL MouIu
pInDahly pe the one thnt came oy mail 49,
The Chairman laid before the committee the
following letter from senator Matthews.
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rl.Hvi C.rivu v Pop,r Hpr, N Kgr,.,rtln,es
ptan SIR lhaye tie honor 10 acknowledge the receipt
mon VI irwin lAl =. clrtk Of me Commute oi IN,
;a Hc o' "nlem % peNs' !, !Gu nls % ,,o m
quosii '''''''' N'T' "
orabc committee oi the ion.e OF Reprc.entatycs ieel
s.a.ni" by .cnse Of duty toward myself and 70 the
set t, ,l a., Staps, n VIII viz a., s y ."
i 'Hsull hau nnu No 'ilHn,a'nh w., -, ur IIo' I