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as simply to require the use of the troops
when necessary for the preservation of the
public peace. He authorized me to communi-
cate this declaration to Mr.. Ellis of the Louisi-
ana delegation.
(Signed) STANLEY MATTHEW'S.
A true copy. WILLIAM L. LEVY
E. A. BURKE.
To Gov. Nichols.
WASHINGTON, D. c., March LIST, 1877
Gov. Nicholas We have the authorized
statement of the President concerning military
orders in writing, and confirmed By the Presi-
dent to four different parties. We have the
guarantee of Sherman, Dennison, Matthews
and Foster. representing the views of Gov.
Hayes, confirming the matters submitted to
the caucus, with the action of the caucus COM
mitted to writing. Copies exchanged, and sat
lsfactory written assurances from Hayes that
he Is correctly represented by his friends here,
Foster and Matthews, from whom we have the
E. J. ELLIS,
VIM NJ. LEVY.
New ORLEANS, La, March /, 1S77-E. A.
Burke, Washington: Fully understand. No
record of Senators until the 10th.
(Signed) F. T. NICHOLAS
Go slow.
WASHINGTON, d. c., Marcn 8, 1S77.-F. T.
Nichols, New Orleans (Confdential.) Gen.
Sherman in conversation said Tell Nichols.
for me. to go SLOW explaining that Hayes
would have great difficulties to overcome, but
that your matters appeared to be working in
the right direction. Gen. Sherman said that
Anger would not interior with the execution of
the process of the courts.
(Signed) E. A. BURKE.
WASHINGTON, D G., March 4, 1877. To
Gov. Nichols, New Orleans (Confidcn
tial. We have had an interview with Presi-
dent Hayes. He assures us his policy will be
conciiatory. and requests that an opportunity
be allowed him to remove the difficulty and
prepare the way. He seems anxious and ear
nest in the proper direction.
(Signed) r. T. GIBSON.
E. A. BURKE.
Witness here recites an interview that tram
spired between Mf Hewitt and himself imme-
diately after the Democratic convention in
which the Qemoc ratio party had agreed that
| the court should 20 on to peaceable deter
psination, he said, without delatory objection.
called upon Mr. Hewitt at his house, think
it was the morning following the action of the
caucus. I there asked Hewitt to explain to
me why it was that the national Democratic
party had abandoned Louisiana. He said:
charge of that kind. There has been no
disposition-no desire Of that kind
replied at once it is too late to discuss that
question since the action of your caucus last
night. 1t was well known that it was the de-
sire of the representatives of Louisiana that
the House should insist upon the condition
tnat Louisiana and South Carolina were to 20
to the gentlemen of the House
that our situation was this, that
if we were left to the
tender mercies of the Republican party of
Louisiana. we would have to be forced to either
trade or fight; that if we traded that the Dem
ocratic party would have two United States
Senators, and that if we were compelled to
fight in defense of our State government there
| was danger of plunglng the country into revo-
luton, but notwithstanding that fact they had
adopted the resolution that the count should
proceed without dilatory objections.
MIR. Hewitt replied to me: 'Mr. Burke. the
Democratic party cannot afford to take the re-
sponsibility of plunging this country into
anarchy and strife, of upsetting values and
disturbing trade We have determined to put
the responsibility of this great fraud fairly and
squarely upon the shoulders of the Republican
party, and go before the people four years
hence"
said mr. Hewitt, that is all very we'll for
you, you may endure it four years. but we
cannot, and it is my duty to say to you, and
| you may say to your associates, that if they
think they can have peace and quiet in this
country with Louisiana and South Carolina
under carpet bag rule, they have
made a mistake. We are
as loyal as you or any other class of people, but
we have endured radical rule as long as we can,
and we are determined to protect our govern
ment, at all hazards, against the United States
troops or any body who seeks to set up Mr..
Packard over us, and insist that you will go
| to your associates and say to them that
with che same consistency that they
voted for the electoral bill to preserve the
country from anarchy and strife, with that
same consistency they can make the condition
| that the boyonets are to be taken away from
| Louisiana and South Carolina, else the condi-
| tions of anarchy and strife that they would
avoid would surely follow"
! MIR. Hewitt assured me of the sympathy of
his associates and himself for the people of
Louisiana and South Carolina. and while be
intimated that his position in the electoral bill
had been such that he could not take posi-
| tion in the House in accordance with my views
| he would make che representations to his as
sociates and they would do what
they could in the interest OF
| Louisiana and South Carolina, and when
! [ stated to Mr.. Sherman what / believed to be
the controlling views Of the Representatives,
l should have stated that what meant was
| that we had impressed these same views upon
members of the House. We had gone to one
two, three and half dozen at time and
made these statements, and they
had kilograms and letters from
their constituents instrlcting then
not to oppose them. They said they die
not dare defeat the count, did not dare take
| that RESPONSE bility, but that they were anxious
and willing to serve Louisiana, and they
thought they could do 80 by go
| ing in and forcing the Republican leaders tt
serve US by doing so. That is what meant il
my dispatches to Gov. Nichols.
/ The movement dated from February 18th
when there were 40 to 40 flibusterers, and w
sought to swell their ranks with aview of fore
ing the radical leaders to give these guarantee
We did SO swell the ranks until the vote Wal
at one time 116, which was sufficient to dete
the count from further proceeding. 1t was a
that period Mr.. Sherman sent for me and a
that period these conferences were held.
Mr.. Blackburn. Then the expression of be
lief you gave Mr.. Sherman simply meant tina
by giving these guarantees you were satisfied
sufficient number would be drawn off from til
strength of the dilatory party in the House
would enable the count to be completed.
Witness. l was satisfied there was a suffi
cient number Of members of the House VIII
were under instructions from their constitu
ents not to oppose the court, but had gone L
to oppose the court with the viey
, of securing these guarantees an
who as they were satisfied that ths
ton and allow the count to go through to
, peaceful determination, and events subs
: quently proved that to be true.
The Hon. E. John Ellis testified regardin
! the Wormley hotel conference. and stated en-
phatically that there was no bargain, that IL
ceasing to flibuster was not insiste
: upon by the Republicans who wer
) at the conference. Watterson alwaJ
3 steadily opposed flibustering. There was n
the semblance of bargain at that conferene
: The object of the Republicans seemed to be
: remove anxiety in regard to the course Hay
r would pursue towards South Carolina a,
i Louisiana.
t Witness at some length referred to numero