New-York tribune., 1878-08-02
THE ENGLISH DEBATE.

Mr.. LOWE REPEATS Mr.. GLADsToSEs ARGUMENTS.
LosDoS Thursday, Aug. l. 1873
In the House of Commons to-day Mr.. Robert
Lowe Qibera resumed the debate Lord Hartingtons
resolution, and accused the Government Of act OF
falsehOod
Sir Stafford Northcoe. Chancellor OF the Exchequer,
the point of order that the language OF Mr. Lowe
was supplementary. The Speaker ruled that the
remark not applied to member Of the Governments
it was In order.
Mr. Lowe then repeated his statement. when the
Speaker ruled it out of Order being applied 10
members OF the Government. Mr. Lowe then withdrew
the expression.
Mr.. loves speech was mainly a repetition OF Mr.
Gladtones arguments concerning the partition of Tnr-
key the BETRAYAL Of Greece and the ussessness q C
prus The alleged faseh0Ods to which Mr. Lowe referred
instructions sent TO Lord Odo Russell the British
r. a geG 10 s no o. 10 bS az 70
on the subject. Mr.. Lowe violently attacked the
abuse OF the Crowns treaymakng prerOgatves, which,
be here mentioned has been the keynote of tho
Liberal speeches.
he said an antiguated prerogatIye has been drawn
from the rusty scabbard and used without the knowledge
or consent oithe people The GSyenment has done ts
Il is Impossible that Engshmsn con be content 70 leave
the exercise Of the TSySi preosaye N Gs I Psess, n
cheers from the Liberal benches.
AN ADMISSION by THE CHANCELLOR.
Sir Stafford Northcote, in reply to Mr. Ashley ibera,
virtually admitted that other secret document was
signed the Soth Of May as well as the
thing signed relative to Greece.
THE DEBATE CONTINUED ON PARTY LINES
Lord John Manners, Postmaster General defended the
Government. Mr.. Chamberlain radical member for
Birmingham attacked the Government, dwelling on its
The debate continued on strictly party lMes by
Holms' the Right Hon Edward Kuatchbuii. .fIngessen,
Mr.. samuel Laing aud Sir John Lubbock who pointed
that the Ango-Turkish Convention inevitably COM
mitted the country 10 an eventual war with Russia.
The debate was then adjourned.
"THE TIMES ON GIADsToNE's SPEECH.
Mr.. Gladstone is vehementy attacked in tO-day's
Times, which says OF his speech:
The House OF Commons listens with bated breath for
his contribution to the great controversy and FOR some
prophetic glimpse into the future He speaks tive hours
and half. and occupies seven columns OF our space.
He carries his hearers irresstlby down torrent OF
10 breathe to What does Il ali amonnti With few ex-
ceptiODs 10 nothing but prolonged nyectiye against
or said escapes denuncaton Peace has been made but
no thanks TO them; they have preferred seryi'
tude TO freedom have pretended TO defend public law,
and have really betrayed IT. have made mad e0Dven-
tiOn violated existing treaes brought into question
an important prerOgatve OF the Crown; discredited us
| abroad and weakened at home. But who are those
penpotentiaries whom he denounces with this unniti-
Beaconseld and SalIsbury they representatives OF
England before Europe aud the world Their work. when
power over an unwilling people Mr Gladstone mmselt
their countrynen There other persons in the world
besides Lord Beaconseld and larger questions a stake
than that OF the conduct the Ministry the details of
prolonged negotiatoD We regret to gay it, but the
whole tenor OF Mr. Gladsones Speech much by what
IL contained by what IL omitted inconsistent
with craftsmanship generous patriotism and he must
forfeit claim the attention OF his
| countrymen ON this great Issue.
LORD sALIsBURY's COMPLAINTS
Lord Salisbury. IN receiving deputaton of Southeast
Lancashire Conservatives who congratulated him on
the success OF his mission to Berlin and invited him 10
Manchester said he did not object to having the Govern
mens policy submitted to searching criticism. but com.
pained that while policy subjected hostile and
acrimonious criticism in the House OF Commons. the
protocols which record the work of the penlpOtenaes
passed tho House Of Lords without comment Thus the
penpot opportunity TO explain them,
| though they alone able to do SO minutely.
BEACoNsFIELD ANSWERS CARNARvoN.
In the House OF Lords to-day, Lord Carnarvon, vehe
mently attacking Lord BeaconSnel;. asked for
PLANTATION OF certain remarks recently made by the latter
regarding his Carnarvon's) secession from the Cabinet
He said that Lord Beaconsed meant 10 say that ne
| lord CarnarvOn at the moment OF difficulty and
DANGER nched from what be had pledged himself 10 DO
! he must absolutely deny such statement
Lord Beaconshed in reply TO Lord Carnaivon, pointed
out that the latter assented 10 the policy embodied In
the circular stating that the question OF the possession
OF COnstantnople involved British interests, and that
| when the Russians approaching ConstantinOple
Lord refused to concur in ordering up the
| British fleet.
Tho subject was then dropped.