Alexandria gazette. [volume] (Alexandria, D.C.) 1834-1974, 1878-06-25
's'a.e Presidential Fraud.

00 IFcElucuG l!aytS ny !ppolpti'en': "N ~
invited to take rido 10 his carriage. The tlmo
was passed in general ccn9"rsatlcn upon vail
Gus tones Witness stated that he had heard
that man named Anderson was to be appoint
pd "a position uodcr The Goverumcut, and
ask cd the President if he was the party VINO
had been supervisor OF elections In East Fellci
ana. la. Witness called attention to charges
that had been made against Andersen, and
asked the President how 1t was that nc shoa'd
be appointed. In reply he was informed that
Anderson lad worked hard for the success OF
the party in Louisiana, and that place bad
been rendered him as a reward Tor his services,
Witness further stated that he asked the Presl
dent if the place had been rendered Anderson
Tor engaging 10 any crooked transactions. lie
President returleu 10 answer to this question,
bu, said that Anderson would not retain his
place long. lie did not call OH him With re
gald to the appointment, but the subject came
10 during long conversation which ne had
with Mr. Hayes during tie frat week IN June
1877,
0. Was it dropped by President Hayes that
Anderson had secrets which 1t would DO un-
pleasant 10 have revealed? A. ] Thick his
language was this: II don't think he will re-
uain in office.
@. What time was it that this conversation
took place? A. The first week 10 June.
q. What democratic paper did you say 1t
was that contained the charges against Andcr'
son? A. don't EccOllect whether 1t was q
Baltimore paper or the New York Sun.
@. Was it said that the appointment of An
dcrson was made to keep his mouth shut? A.
| DONE rcoo!Icot precisely the language, but my
impression was that Anderson was TO be re-
1,l e. in
O. Did the President deny
MIR. Reed.-I object that is not right. Ask
if he made response as to whether the charge
was true or not.
By Mr.. Potter.-l understood you to say that
Anderson was appointed for services rendered.
Do you reooect how long the conversation be-
tween YOU and the President lasted A. About
five or eight hours.
@. How long did tho interview i'll relation to
Anderson continue? A. About two minutes.
The subj;c! came up incidentally while wo were
discussing some of the appointments made ny
the Administration.
BY General Butlcr.-At the time you saw
the President, was it by invitation? a. \ cs,
sir.
@. Was your conversation upon any rarticu.
lar topic2 a. No, sir.
@. When this ride that you speak Of occur
red, had the appointment Of Anderson been
announced? A. Yes, Sit; it had been announc
ed. and it was stated that he would decline.
q. You did not know Anderson a. | had
heard Of him. but did not know him.
O. Who introduced the topic about Ander-
son? A. | did.
Q. Can you give about the tenor Of tho con-
versaton "A. | asked how it was that man
against whom such charges were made could
be appointed, and was told that it WAS tor ser
vices rendered the party.
q. How soon after this conversation with
the President did you repeat it to any one1-
a. do not remember.
G, Did you repeat any portion Of the inter.
vicw?-A. | have talked OF it.
q. Have you not undertaken to give the
Presidents words?-A. | have no recollection
of having tried TO give the Presidents words.
q. Have you not tried to give the import OF
tho conversatior?-A. | probably have given it
az remember it.
Z. You did not give that conversation to
more than five outsiders?-A. | have no rccol
lection.
q. Have you never given any one to under.
stand that the appointment was made on az
count Of political matters? A. | have doubt
less made such q remark.
uQFlOS inc cSIlUnaLlUu SUltiU WHY IFCIy
tits occurred between General Butler and The
witness, daring which the latter said that nc
intended 10 answer questions put to HIM IN bis
Own way. He would not say anything which
would reflect upon the President
General Bu.lct-Why not? Even if true?
Will you nav answer this question: Whether
Or uot ycu have Iivcu any peraen 70 understand
that tho President said that Anderson was
pDsscpscd o; curiau secrets which could 10; bl
| made pnolic? a. | never said anything OF tie
kind ! have talked to persons ia Try uhlce,
aud tDay have salG that IL WAS my lMprcSsi0t
| that the al.pviataient vas made ipr such q
reasUn.
t.. How long sitter Tie eon2cfsallGn With tie
President did you give those inlprcSsiuGS to cut
sidaEs2 a. can't tell.
g.. Did you intend, when you stated TO those
persons ia your Office, 20 give the tiu" and COT
rect impression 4. Yes, Sit
q. What answer did the President mako
| wheu you asked him it the reason ior Aoler
| SOD s appointment was not because lie must br
kept quiet? a. lie ucithcr affirmed nor denied
| that such Was tue CASE.
= You repeated tie newspaper charges and
| then asked how such man could be appointed
| A. My rcmanbrauco Is this, that asked no"
| it vas that tho Naturalization had appointed
| a Eian kuuWn 10 have been crooked TO keep hlm
quiet?
q. Aud Tic conversation witt, tho President
led you to believe that such IVES the case ? A..
Merely because he did not confess Or deny.
@. Then by want Of denial he caused such
an impression in your MUD A. lie did. A0
derson represented himself as coming from
Ohio, and to2k an interest ia The appointment
for that reason.
BY Mr.. MoNahoD--Didn't you know that
tho President had not revoked the appoint
ment?
Mr.. Cox-I object. An attempt il being
made to smiroh the President. We gre not
dealing with suspected criminal before a po-
lice court. 1t seems to DO the Object of this
committee to cast reflections upon tho Integrity
Of the President.
MIR. McMahon said it was not the intention
of himself and General Butler to cast any re-.
Elections.
Mr.. Reed-Oh leave Gen. Butler out Of ii;
he can look out for himself.
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