Daily globe. [volume] (St. Paul, Minn.) 1878-1884, 1878-06-12
@. Iput them in your hands now to refresh
your recollection as to anything that occurred

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@. I put them in your hands now to refresh
your recollection as to anything that occurred
in February.
A. saw Matthews before wrote the letter
in which referred to the Sherman document.
Mcmahon here read a letter as follows:
WASHINGTON, D. c., Feb. 9th. ls7s.-MY
DEAR S1R: have your favor of the 25th.
telegraphed you, and have written as well.
There is not thing to tell you.
My friends are for me, and SO, taking the cabi-
net all friendly, every one. and Senator Mat
thews mas been doing all he could. Steele is,
out Of the way. 1t lays between me and Pack
appointed for some days, and you know
best whether to write or come over;
will write or telegraph you of anything new.
don't think anyone will be appointed till
next week, and if not perhaps, you had better
come over Saturday. The only assurance we
can give is that my appointment will be gem
orally satisfactory, and that l can be confirmed.
ments. ' truly 9l yonrs any Ben DARRELL
To Jas. E. Anderson. Philadelphia.
Witness continued: Shortly after this date I
had a conversation with Matthews in which
was first to mention the fact that Anderson
told me he had certain letters or
documents or papers which if
given to the opposition or pub
lished would not sound very we'll for some
of those concerned. The letter would show
probably it was written day or two after
the interview with Matthews. With that
answer to your question. About the time
this letter was written. probably the same day
or day before, l was informed that negotiations
were pending between Anderson's attorney and
, Tilden, and his friends in New York, by which
these document and papers and letters of
In ha slno
in possession of somebody in New York, Tilden
and his friends, and l wrote this letter
| to Anderson because I considered that
he should act in good faith in the
matter, and that the letters had better be taken
| out of the possession of his attorney and kept
had not seen all the documents; had certainly
not seen Matthews letters and knew nothing
of them. The only thing had seen of Matthews
was that he talked with Anderson and Weber
and promised to do something for them and
that is what he told me.
| @. What you heard made you rather en-
couraged on this subject. You attached some
importance to these papers?
| A. l did, for the reason because Anderson
had said there was such documents
to be published, and had never had any con-
versation up to this date with Senator
as would injure Matthews greatly; in fact, they
/ would cause him to lose his seat. Up to this
| date have had no conversation with Matthews
about these papers.
@. This is the letter (referring to Sherman's
letter.. Look at it here. Mcmahon read the
following letter:
House OF REPRESENTATIVES, WASHINGTON
March ., 1S78.-My Dear Sir: l had an inter.
view with M. this evening, and told him what
l heard from father, and that you had been
over and assured me the papers were
all IN your possession, and would
| 4 I, L, =
source that propositions had been made by
some one, and in talking, remarked if all went
right you won't give them up. I said that
| would be responsible. He of course spoke only
! OF the Sherman copy. and referred to nothing
else. You had best write him you were over
but did not care to trouble him, and that yor
assured me the papers were safe in your owr
possession, and would be given up when went
in. You understood neither of Us
referred to any paper from him yor
had, and all looks as favorable a.
we could wish. We will hear from Marks to-
morrow. and will at once let you know. Writ,
or not you think best to NJ, but it seems t,
me it is better to write. Give my love to Mrs
! A. and tell her we going to win. Write an,
G. B. DARRAI1-
To Jas. E. Anderson. Phila.
G. The conversation between you ant
Matthews referred only to the Sherman COPY
about the letter rejecting upon MIR. Matthews
Only remember mentioning these document
at one or perhaps two interviews.
4 @. Was not this understanding. as draw
from this letter, that you were to be appointe,
collector Of the port Of New Orleans and whe
that was done he was to deliver up the Sher
man copy, and You were to be responsible tina
it would be delivered up?
A. That is what the letter stated. That
about correct. The understanding of Andel
son was this, that he had written assurance
from Sherman and Stoughton that they woul
do something for him, that Matthews knew Q
this, and he had written assurance fror
Matthews of it. Anderson always represente
up to that time that he didn't do anything blu
what was right and proper in the interest G
the Republican party, and he had written q
surances from those men who were down there
and he said that if they did not provide fc
him in fact, he threatened to publish it in th
newspapers.
@. When jerks talked about having til
original Sherman document, did she say til
Sherman and Stoughton document?
J A. That is what it was I think. don
remember that she said VIII
it was that signed, but that was til
, expression used. My understanding is that do
ument was given and signed by Anderson an
Stoughton. That is what Anderson has alwaJ
. told me that they gave him and Weber write
assurances that they would be taken care Of.
: A. Did he ever tell you of al interview b.
: tween Sherman, himself and Stoughton at
restaurant at New Orleans!
l a. l have heard him relate about som
2 thing to several gentlemen during the la
winter myseif and others being present.
@. Look at this letter of March l7th 1877
I and see if that refreshes your recollection as
3 Matthews having called on the President
i. your behalf. With whom did You have tt
6 conversation in which you derived the info
@l,4 i 4
l Packard?
!: A. l got that information from Matthey
! of course.
t McMahon here read The letter as follows:
t WASHINGTON, D. c.. March 18th, 1878. N
}. DEAR SIR:-l saw NJ. for few moments th
evening. He had not seen Hayes yet 1 to
0 him what Kellogg and he told me, l p
Kellogg to work with the cabinet. He b,
company and had no chance to talk wi
him. Father q. is dead again
d Packard. He said he did not want
e appear in the matter more than he had. VI
r need not come over Tuesday, unless telegral
IS for you. When saw Kellogg afterwards al
: limited at him to go in for me, he did not see
" willing TO do SO. I do not know VIII
n to think of it. Will talk furth
K with Matthews tomorrow and with you the
! If he don't or can't do anything. l don't Il
much show, but guess he will do it. Tru]
% &C.. c. 3. DARRELL.
e To Jas. E. Anderson, Philadelphia, Pa.
"a The Presidents Tstle.
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