New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1878-06-28
A CHANGE OF THEME.

| THE FACTS ABOUT MOVES EXAMINED INTO.
WASHINGTON, June 27.-The Investigating
Committee met at IL a. to-day, Mr. Potter presiding
Ex-lIarsbal J. r. G. Ptkn recalled ana cross-ex-
amneI by Mr.. Springer upon the points developed IN
bis previous testimony. Mr. Pkn reasseTted That II
was almost physical impossbilitY to get anybody TO
serve as deputy-narsbai In East Feeiana, and that
there was violence at many polling places He also
stated that had heard OF threats being made by An
dersop that lie would XIII him. and he had observed him
in the outer hall several occasions and was told by
bls friends that lie was there for that pur-
pose. and Mr. Casey, inspector in the
Custom House, a large, brawny mao, and rather
devoted 20 the witness in aud asked him II he
should "mash" Anderson, and toe witness told MIN
BY Mr. Butler-From your familiarity with politics In
the State have YOU ever enter aimed any c0uDts M me
legality .! the Packard LRgioiatuet A'-Nohe "haE
ever. -
could have ultimately aimed himself without Ine az
sslnuce Of United States tr0Opsi A-Ios, sir within
three weeks after bis recognition he could have had
force sucient TO sustain nin without e assstpee Oh
any United troops whatever. There was large
element out Of emrloymPnt M the state who would nave
attached themselves so Packard ia they could be
equipped and understand from prominent officer ot
he would been very glad 20 nave turned over his
forces TO Packard. There was also az Italian company
commanding officer To Nh Packard IN case ne should De
oGWas there nc the time the visiting statesmen
rived before that time majority OF both houses OF
The Packard Legislature who had been returned az Huy
elected by the Returning Board that rrturned The
Hayes electors rloctedi AYes, thero were major
| itcs IN both houses
Q-Was there any change In the situation with regard
10 the existing Government untl atterWird when Oy
some reason the majory those returned had gone
into the Nichols legislature aud formed quorum OF
| thnt body : A.-N0, SIR.
! O.-Bofore thai change was made II not current
history and current suowiedgc in Louisiana that money
offered and accepted by members Of the Pack
arl legislature 10 Cet them into the Nichols LeZlsL-
ture At was matter Of current history. l never
knew it 30 b. denied, sut have seen IL distinctly
Odd YOU know Of an occurrence Ike this, that
oDsdcrI6le body OF inc Packard slleo upon
the MacNCagh Commission 70 Know Mhat they should
do, and then reported tho result Of the interview
| 10 caucus OF tha Legislature know oft from
Of the persons who was present ht that conference
George A. j. SwaZis my Informant IN regard 10 the
matter SIR. Swaze related the affair tn this That
no was aceo,ted ON the street by General McSian VINO
was a member at the time OF Che Packard L3glsature
and 4 nUw United States Pension Agent at hcwOreans
| aud General Mcmillan tnen minated desire the
| part Of the Commission Ia hold conference with
| tire. The caucus dispatched about twelve per
! sons. who waited upon the Commission; An in-
ur en m his efforts TO dssuade thu Packard members
FROM continuing longer at The stale House lie says
that MacVe3gh conceived 70 was wholly npfActicabe 70
absent themselves from The Nichols Legislature There
had been three members o. tne Nichols body who we're
election ana they bad been declared 20 defeated by the
Democratic state Convention, who mrrOvised ns
| a Returning Board one was member Of the commit
the necessity OF these three Wen being retained IN
ths Nichols body and think the special objection then
presented % Junction OF the two rival bodies was that
these three should be put out OF their chairs,
IN Tho Packard body Mr. MacVeagh Jumped 20 his feet
yery petuIantly and said: We have tried TO do
S S Sa Wa 1 s end Of ' bS
q be eHeeSdn@y wr9th al IhIS ana PlP
DiBkgave. OF Madison Parish, also a member OF the
Packard committee asked In regard to the troops re-
naming IN heW-Oroans as something ma Deen sara
about their remoyai whoreupon Mr. haeFcagh replied;
Il h Of 70 hope for troops Hyou can make the
nght here in New Orleans, try It. but you will be wholly
unsuccessful :" and added as for the courts referring,
~ understood 20 the Nichols Government they will
hang every one OF You tho amppOsts Tho troops
going Dc removed next Tuesday, aud tine Democrats
ODD you know It at that time A.-No, sir; had
not the remotest idea OF X l understood from Mr..
doWncast and dishearteued know myself, matter
OF current history, that the next morning not over ten
OF seventy three members Of the Packard Legislature
were al the State House
O-Before this time had any considerable number Of
the members deserted the Packard Legslature To 40
over to NIohollsi A.-No considerable number. There
had been fow defections. but think In every case
those " ho had gone over came back again.
At tho request Of General Butler the witness read
various articles from New Orleans papers OF them
written by members Of the Legislature saying that
money had been used to bring about change OF power
from Legislature 60 the other, the money coming
from tho Nichols faction. The witness said these
charges had never been denied
General Butler then asked the chairman 10 request the
New-Orleana subcommittee TO examine this subject
General Butler then questioned the witness about
how his (Mr. Butler's letter 10 him, which
was a private letter. got into the newspapers
BY Mr.. Butler-Do you Know whether up 10 that
time the and the sherins Office I'm New Orleans
Nichols A.-They were seized have always sup
posed under tho immediate control Of officers attached to
Q-Were new judges substituted for those heretofore
0How long was this done before the detection Of the
Packard Legislature 10 Nicholsi A.-That movement
Buildings was made While the House Committee were in
Eew-Orleans some ime early In January / remember
sJme OF the committee looking out OF the window aud
expressing their horror at the proceeding
Q.-DO You know OF any law OF Louisiana by which
that body OF troops could DO organized A-NOne what
Q-wss that action the reason why Packard called
on tho President for assistance TO suppress domestic
violence Ayes, sir, IL was.
Q-was that call ever answered Alt was not to
my knowledge
GLAssCOCK AND WHITNEY.
After Roger G, GiassoOck called and ex-
amined regard to = conversation with Mrs. jerks
lie said One day last Winter she came in TO din
ner and took seat by her at tho table and she
matter and she said abe had hal a cOnVersatOn with
Secretary Sherman and that he had insultod her. and
him yet few days after intimated that had,
could get, or knew of document or letter that was
tho letter from Secretary sherman TO Mr. Webber the
about that mater and finally she ea@s IN one day and
said she was going home tha the letter was In New
Orleans and that she would have 60 60 homo 10 got It.
but that she would be back again IN few days She
wrote letter after getting there but contained
until few days ago.
Leonard whitney, telegraph manager in Washing
ton appeared before the committee and stated that he
had looked for the kilograms between Mrs. jerks and
Anderson aud Ptkn and Anderson. called for by the
committee, but had been able to find only telegram.
as follows!
February /, 1873
j. T. ANDERSON, NORTH American O0ice, Philadelphia
Arc you coming over tomorrow Answer
A. ID. jerks
The witness stated that tho kilograms of August and
September 1877 had boon sent to the Eew-YOrk office,
and n they had been the paper mill already
they would probably be found there.
THE FLORIDA CAsE-CHANDLERs TESTIMONY.
Vim. Il Chandler was then called and examined In re-
gard 10 Florida affairs Mr. Chandler denied saying to
Mr.. McLn that Mr.. Noyes the particular friend OF
President Hayes and that the President wohd remand