New-York tribune., 1878-06-12

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Matthews never represented that Anderson had any.
After a variety Of questions about Mr. Packard, the
chairman returned To tbs point OF Andersons influence
! The testimony was substantially as follows:
! Mr.. Anderson was in the last campaign and had
served the Republican party aud had claims on IT, AZ he
REPRESENTED aud believed aud had at some previous
time bc@n promised by Senator Matthew'S assistance 10
secure something When he came over here ana saw
him in behalf Of MI Packard, no represented that he
did not desire any Office FOR himself, but Mr. Matthews
had promised HIN previous occasions, and ne NOud
endeavor assist him. Ho said Il want nothing for
myself now from The Administration and the Govern
hebI; nave done my duty 10 Tue GOYerninent anu
want 20 you Mr. Packard appointed, and will 90
~ aud see Mr. hatAews and get hm to DO the oeSt ne
Q.-Do you remember Mrs. jerks being here about the
same time AYES, sir; she was here little earlier
IL published In the papers that she here, and
that she had the sherman document
. She said sho going Mr.. Sherman think
she said that and thai she had an agreement or letto
that she wanted TO IL " it could be used to help
Packard dd not care TO take any part IN the matter
Kellogg on somebody, ana think that was tbe last
saw Of her The newspaper boys got hold o u ana tney
hunted her III, and 10 all published IN the newsa-
hrst interview thai She rad the docnments
Odd You ask her TO let you sec the etteri A.-Oh
Q-You did not care to see iti A-No had no inter
est in it.
Q-About how Ions was it before Mrs. jerks changed
ront on her statement rs 70 having or not having the
leterl A.-As nearly as 1 recollect. she vas here
couple Of weeks. never talked with her 81 tor tha eX
cep a. passed her on the street once or twee But ia
the course OF week or two there vas an lnlefYeW win
Nr Sherman In tic course o whrh nc said ne ad never
gwen snch letter, ana his JclAs aGhlie9 ne noEeI
had, and she PUBLISHED card TO that eject remember
during tne time Nj. Anderson was over here, he saw
QDo yoq know what other parties she talked with in
regard 10 THIS letter besides yoniseit A7one ot ine
newspaper BOYS sa" har don't snow Wnlch ones tley
were. don't remember which one. believe NJ. Pres
ton and got her address aud told him she
was stopping at the ST. James and believe Mr. White
came 10 see me alsO about II.
Q.lt finally wOund up Oy her publishing the letter IN
the newspapers A.-Hes, SIR.
ANDER.oN AND MR. MATTHEWS.
Q.-Whcn the first time you knew that Senator
Matthews aware that certain papers were not IN Dir
AndersOn's hands which II any way important 10
take upt Al cannot the question just in that
shape Dir. Matthews never said 10 that Anderson
had any papers Be desired % take up on The contrary
be said 10 me 10 one Of our interviews, probably IN
account aud he did not whether they were taken
up or n0t mean the letters ic might have written
remember had conversation az that time IN regard
20 tno sherman letter, and 3ir Matbcwss opinion
that there was never such letter gwen, aud that 1t was
not worth bothering about
Tie following letter from Mr Darra was then put in
evidence by Dir. acMahon:
HOTsE OF REPRESENTATIVES,,
WAsHHGTON, Feb. Il, 1873
Ny DEAR SIR: ! called The senator tins evening
found him expecting ne, and said AL and more than
expected. H. says the President Will not appoint r.
aud at once suggested that should take it. an to
advise with blm as soon as Williamson Is out OF the
WAY witch Will be ~ two three days lie VIII cyi-
dent work harl or Packard also said to-day that
he would support me in case he cannot get himself
Il think Dos you write 20 me that IN thinking the
matter over sluce YOU have gone home yod are more
convinced 1 the best auu that n viii SUIT
you best lie wants to do nat Is rght bY YOU he tes
me. and I desires that yOu should be satisfied.
Write strong but careful letter. / need hardly say
tnat II should by means get the place Will appre-
cale YOU aud " / don't will oil tue same appreciate
your Efforts VII wute you anything even IN the case.
Give respects TO Mrs A. aud Oe ready to come over
II necessary. Your truly, G. i. DARKALI-
10 JAS T. ASDLRsOS, esq.. Philadelphia, Penn.
Q-Wly did you want Mr.. Anderson TO write to Mr..
Matthews in your behalf and for him to state it that
you were the best man. and that Il would suit him the
best that is sgit Anderson the best What led you to
tbesc Two men that ,f would be OF any importance TO
YOU A-For the simple reason l said IN my eyi-
Matthews had agreed tia. he had given written assur
anccs that u ne Withdrew any claim he had be would
ask either Mr. Packaids appointment or my appoint
Odd the question whether the papers in the pos.
session Of Mr. Anderson were worth anything at all.
IN any mao the talk with Senator Matthewsi
Odd they at a later datei A-Ohyes.
-Ma, ae date % was @ iss IA AL 1t %qs have el,sl been
There another letter in which speak Of the sherman
document, winch Will give you the exact date
slr. AcMahoa here read the letter. as follows;
wAISGros, Feb u. 1873.
Ny DEAR SIR: Ihave yous h,yor OF the 18th teie-
thing 80 tell You. nv friends FOR aud talking.
Cabinet all friendly every one, and Senator NJ
has been doing a hc could steele oui Of Tic way t
ts between and Packard ldont think ans one viii be
appointed 'Or some day ANA on know best whether 60
wiItc come over VIII write or telegraph You oi
ANYTHING new. ! dont thiuk anyone viii be appointed
tn week, aud u not perhaps you had better come
over saturday TIE only assurance we eau give that
ms appointment WILL De- generally satisfactory aud that
can hr confirmed. Will write OF telegraph " aEy new
Developments. Truly youis, G. b. DARKALL
J4NIs T. ANDErsoS esq.. PHILADELPHIA, Penn.
Mr. D4rrall-ABout the time this letter written
probably tho same day or the day bofore-I in
formed that NEGOTIATIONS we're pending between Mr..
Andrrson's attorney and Mr. Tiden and his friends
Nrw-York 10y which these documents and papers and
letters of Mr. Matthews be placed In the posses
sion Of soneb1dy In NewYork, Tiden or bis friends,
and this letter o Anderson because considered
tnat he should In good th In the matter aud that
t letter had better De taken out Of the possession OF his
attorney aud kept 10 his own possession Al that time
certainly had not seen all the documents had GER
fanIv not seen Mr. Matthew's letters and know moth
,ns y. Was hat ne iaked with Mr. Anderson and Mr
Weber and promised 70 do something for hem and that
j. what hc lOld me-
Another letter by Mr. Darrall was then offered in
evidence;
HOUSE or REPRESENTATIVES,.
WAsmSGToS, ID. G., March 3 1873. 5
My DEAR SIN had an interview with N. this even
ing. and told hIm what had heard from Potter, and
you had been over and assured me the papers were
said be had word from another that propositions
h becn made hy some one and In talking remarked II
ai went right you ought or we're TO give them
up / said that would surely be done, and l
would be- responsible He OF course, spoke only Of the
sherman copy and referred 10 nothing else. You had
, write him you but did not care TO trouble
bm and that you assured me the papers safo IN
yvur own possession aud would gwen up when went
in understand neither OF us referred TO any papers
from him you had and all looks ms favorable as We could
wish. We will hear from Marks Tomorrow and wl
AT once let you know. write or not as you THINK best
20 NJ but u seems 10 me botter 10 Wle Owe my IONo
10 Mrs A.. aud tell her We are going 10 wn write any
news from the S. Truly yours, G. Is. DARkALL.
JAMES L. ANDERSON esq, PhHddelphid, Fenh.
MIR Mcmahon here read the letter OF March Il, 1873
as follows: =, -, - 500
NY DEAR SIR: | SAW NJ. a few moments this even
ing He has not Hayes yet told hun what kel-
logg said and he told 20 put Kellogg 20 work with
the Cabinet. lie had company and / had no
chance 10 talk with bim further then. He
is dead against Packard. lie said he did not want 10
apuear in tue matter more than he had to- You need
moi come over Tuesday unless ! telegraph for you
When saw Kellogg afterward and hnted at him TO go
m for me he did not seem willing TO do so. don't
know what 10 think ofit WIl talk further with NJ. to-
morrow and with YOU aud then II he don't or can't DO
nrhlnr hnnI see mnch chow but gnoss De VIII do ~