The New Orleans daily Democrat. [volume] (New Orleans, La.) 1877-1880, 1878-07-20


Mr.. Sherman asked Anderson, "Have you
ever seen me before, and where and at what
timer And Anderson said, YES / met
you at Moreau's In New orleans, when
was told was StOughton. ! went in and spoke
10 e. A. Burke, who was taking dinner at a
table near, and then | came over and intro
dueed myself to you as the supervisor Of
East FeliCiana. Sherman then asked him to
repeat the conversation, and to say whether
Mr.. Stoughton could have heard 1t. Mr. An
derson replied, "Mr Secretary, II you cannot
remember the conversation It Is best that I
should not repeat It," Mr. Sherman then
asked, "Did you ever see me again 2" An
derson said, Yes, once; when / went to your
house and asked you to aid me In getting en-
ployment, and you very abruptly told me
you had ,i nothing 10 your department which
asked Mr.. Shelabarger II he had any Ques-
tions to ask, and then Anderson got up and
said. "Mr. Secretary, did not come here, |
was brought here" told him there that he
was telling falsehood. He said Judge
let's don't have any words about it. 1 believe
you are innocent; but IL you do not wish to
see me, Mr.. Secretary, l will retire; good
day" and he left.
NY efforts to get Anderson the passes had
nothing to do with the interviews. Neither
Judge Sloanaker nor any one else ever sug-
gested to me that an interview between An
dersOn and Sherman should be arranged. /
had previous to that time not spoken twenty
Shellabarger went into the room he said: 81
can see no reason why you should not see
him" and Secretary Sherman told the usher
to show him in Sherman said he did not re-
member to have ever seen Anderson. The in
teryiew lasted not more than fifteen minutes
/ did not go out with Mr.. Anderson. / re-
manned In the room with Gov. Hahn, /
apologized to the Secretary for getting into
bad company and when | had made my
apology / Withdrew. There was another gen
tleman besides the party there, his secretary.
Al do not know that he was shorthand writer
He was writing during the conversation.
never made any trip TO Donaldsonvllle to
see Mrs. D. A. Weber. / think there is some
discrepancy there which / think / can ex-
plain to the committee. On the sixth day of
February my attention was called to an arti-
Gle In the Times of February 4, stating that
there was woman In Washington represent
ing herself as Mrs. d. A. Weber, having GER
tain documents to sell. Having known Mrs.
ID. A. Weber from girlhood, / called on her
and told her of the article, and asked her if
she had any idea who Y could be; She
jerks, because she called on me and insisted
on my having paper, signed by some one,
which she wanted, and which she said she
could use, and which would make us both
rich; and, that to get rid of the woman, she
had gone over all her husbands private
papers. She said that she wished | would
show this woman up as an impoStor,
and / told her that | could not do it
to that conversation at which you were pres
ent. This was one when you were not present
This was to Mr.. Weber, who was whispering
to Mr.. Stenger.l Mrs. Weber told me she
would give me the authorization in black
and white. She asked me to draw up
the letter and she would sign 1t. There was
something missing-either pens, ink or some
thing, and | told her / would write 1t as /
came back. left and went up the street, and
when came back Mr.. E. l.. Weber was there.
and he had evidently been told what we pro-
posed TO do, for while Mrs. Weber was getting
out the writing materials Weber was pulling
his moustache and was evidently thinking,
Mrs. Weber into this matter and get her name
In the papers," that II the woman was still i'm
Washington could write and he would send
an affidavit. said all right; that was only
acting for the interest OF Mrs. Weber, and /
left l was
A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELEoToR.
signed the certificates on the day provided
by law. ALI the electors were present when
the papers were signed. We signed three or
four or five sets. | can't say how many GER
titcates we signed on the first day.
WITNESS was here shown the certificate of
the electors and identified his signaturel
/ cannot say on what day 1t was signed. It
purports here to be the sixth day Of Deem
Der, and / think that was the day. short
time after the first set was signed was told
that there was some infOrmality or defect In
them. 1 think Gen. Sheldon first told me of
the defect Gen. Anderson carried them to
Washington. | don't know that Mr.. Ander-
son went on to Washington only through the
newspapers. did not even know that the
second certificate was to be sent on to Wash
ington. / think the second certificate was
signed perhaps ten days after the first 1t
was one, two or three weeks after / left
New Orleans the day after the meeting of the
electoral college. ! went to DOnaldsonville
1 can't say how long I remained there
cannot say how long after the meeting went
to Donaldsonville, but IL you will send to the
Auditors Office and get my OATH can tell.
The 6ergeant-at-arms was dispatched for
the oath.
can't say positively where l spent Christ
mas. think spent it at home. / think
spent New Year in New Orleans Ii YOU
the second certificate, l could perhaps guide
myself better as to dates.
Mr.. Stenger-I intend to show you the GER
tifieates.
Mr.. Cox-I think that there can be no OBJ
iections to telling Mr.. Marks that the certiti-
Gates were signed on
Mr.. Blackburn-But we would rather not
We have no objections TO telling Mr.. Marks
that ~ ,Purport to have been signed on the
SKIN Of December, the same day as the first.
Mr.. Marks have no hesitancy in saying
that
THEY WERE NOT.
To Mr.. Stenger-I was in New Orleans at
the time of the murder of Arrieux.
went home immediately. 1t was not later
than the second day after the murder that I
went to Donaldsonvllle. can't say how long
remained. The body had been inferred be-
fore arrived there. was not present at the
preliminary examination of the men accused
of the murder; think was in New Orleans.
There was Q lapse Of two or three weeks be-
tween the time of the killing and the time of
the preliminary examination. / don't think
on the first set Of certificates put my name
on the envelope. i do not in fact remember
having seen the envelope.
Witness was here shown another set of GER
tificates and identified his signature
To Mr.. Stenger-I don't think, il they are !
the second certificates, that put my name on !
the envelope.
Witness was here shown an envelope
Yes, sir; that is my signature on it, At
the second set Kellogg, Burch, Joseph and |
Sheldon had signed before did, and Levisee |
and Jotfrion had not. I think 1 saw no one
but Sheldon sign; After had signed left
When l met MI. Sheldon on the street he
told me we had to make second set of GER
tificates. We went together to the State