The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-02-01
NorthcOte, Forster, Cross, Lawson and
Bright Make Speeches.
AUSTRIA AND ENGLAND
Mysterious Silence Regarding the
Peace Negotiations.
REPORTED ADVANCE OF THE RUSSIANS
[sY CABLE TO THE HERALD

LONDON, Feb l. 1878.
1t Is reported that at Cabinet council -
Wednesday the party OF action gained the ascSae
ant, and that an important ministerial statement
will be made at an early stage Of the pending de-
bate which will alter the aspect of the situation
II no news, or unsatisfactory news, touching an
armistice be received before the division the gov
ernment's majority will PROBABLY largely exceed
one hundred. The signing OF an armistice would
reduce the majority and increase the vgor and Bit
terness OF the opposition attacks. There is some
talk among the radicals OF opposing the money
vote by obstructive tactics In the event Of an ar.
mistice being concluded.
THE HOUSE CROWDED.
The House Of Commons was very crowded in all
parts yesterday afternoon by persons anxious to
for supplementary vote Many peers and lorGs1
representatives were present
THE GLADSTONE NEGROPONTIs AFFAIR.
Sir Stafford Northcote, Chancellor Of the Ex-
chequer, replying to question: said that the gov
eminent will not object to furnish the House the
correspondence respecting the Gadstone-Negro-
points incident.
TELEGRAPH NEAR GALIIPOLI CUT
Mr.. Robert Bourke, Under Foreign Secretary, IN
reply to question said he had heard yesterday
that the telegraph line between Constantlnople and
Gallipoli was cut.
LORD DERBY's CONDITIONS ADHERED TO-
Sir Stafford Northcote, in response to an inquiry
Of Mr.. Chaplin said at the latest advices armis-
tice had been signed. The Russians are still ad-
vancing southwark, but he was ignorant as to what
point they have reached. AS to whether, In view
OF the continued Russian advance, England still
adheres to the conditions Of Lord Derby's May de-
spatch, he said:'I can only say that the govern
ment does entirely adhere to those conditions"
FoRsTER's AMENDMENT.
Mr.. Forster at Ave O'Clock p. NJ. amid the cheers
Of the opposition, moved his amendment to the
vote of credit, declaring that the House saw nc
reason for adding to the peoples burdens BY
voting additional supplies. (The text was sent on
Wednesday morning.) Mr. Forster said he saw
nothing In the peace conditions endangerna
British interests. He was convinced Of the abs0
lutte necessity OF his amendment.
4 BRITISH INTERESTS NOT ENDANGEREr
The vote demanded by the government was I'M
precedented. II it was the duty OF the House u
vote money when wanted 1t was the duty Of the
government to say what 1t was wanted for. Thl
only Information the House had was that the gov
eminent intended to flourish the vote In the face
OF the forthcoming Congress on the Eastern ques.
ton. The Interpretation put.upon the motion was
that the government thought the peace conditions
unsatisfactory. He could find nothing in them
calling for a suspicious attitude on the part OF
Great Brltain-nothlng endangering British inter-
ests
THE POLICY OF THE MINISTRY ARRAIGNED. .
II Russia desired to take advantage OF her vic.
tories to alter existing treaties concerning the
xvioh uat Il. hutp
Gortschakor had said he regarded this as matter
not 10 be settled by Russia. Mr.. Forster then
arraigned the recent foreign policy of the govern
ment and declared that they were not entitled to
this'vote as a vote Of confidence, and did not need
II for any interest of the country Mr. Forster
spoke for an hour and half
VIGOROUS REPLY.
Right Hon. Richard Ashe ton Cross, Secretary of
State for the Home Department, followed Mr.
Forster. Mr.. Cross said Mr.. Forster's speech was
intended to create the feeling that there war
party in the government which desired the credit in
order to apply 1t to warlike purposes This imputa-
ton he distinctly denied. He also declined to
admit that the vote was intended as general vote
OF confidence. All the government asked was that
the money should be granted which might be neces-
sary and that it be given in the full confidence that
1t would be used If absolutely necessary. The
government had never swerved from the policy Of
Lord Derby's despatch OF the 9th OF May.
"IYING SPEECHES. OF THE OPPOSITION.
He characterized the speeches made against tho
government outside Of the house as lying speeches.
Cheers from the Ministerial benches) He COM
menred on the delay in making known the terms
OF peace and the coincdent rapid advance Of
the Russian forces and pointed out that the delay
was not caused by the Turks but by the Russians.
He asked where was the strategic reason for the
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of peace were already accepted by Turkey
THE OPPOSITION FRIENDS" OF RUSSIA.
he tainted the opposition (amid storm Of de.
risye shouts Of "withdraw p) with being friends o.
the Russians and maintained that, seeing the Rus
slams still advancing, the government was bound to
uerseyerc In the vote. The government must
exercise the right TO be heard In the final
settlement, and If 1t be heard ut all 1t must
be backed by the estimate now submitted.
THE VOTE MUST BE CARRIED.
The governments only object was substantial
and lasting peace. lie had not believed until he
saw 1t that this amendment would be put, but he
had no doubt it would be defeated by an over.
whelmine majority.
THE HOUSE ANIMATED.
Mr.. Cross spoke an hour and ten minutes The
House was very lively during both Mr. Forster's
and Mr.. Cross speeches and there were cheers and
counter cheers from either side Of the House.
WHY NOT CONSULT THE COUNTRY
Sir wifrid Lawson opposed the vote and con-.
tended that the proper course OF the government
was to go to the country and get the opinion OF the
constituencies.
JOHN BRIGHT MAKES A STRONG APPEAL
Mr.. Bright lamentcd Sir Stafford Northcotei
tone In giving notice OF supplementary vote
He had spoken as though the freedom Of the
Christian provinces OF Turkey was opposed to the
interests OF England. Mr.. Bright hoped f0,OOo,0Od
would not be used to restrict that freedom lie
thought the terms OF peace contained nothing that
should alarm the people, feed our discrcdtable
jealousy OF Russia or justify the government In
entering conference with an attitude of menace.
DIsTAsTEFUL LEGACY.
II the government adhered to the old policy Of
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