New-York tribune., 1878-10-24

from Europe in 1863 he visited her at her rooms In te
Finu Avenue Hotel He spoke OF the beauty OF ne1 C t
sic answered that they had unfortunately no C3nuO-
would be well provided He answered, yes ater MS
death thcv would be very rich =. . ..
Mr. Clinton declined 20 crosse xamine this witness
TESTIMONY OF DIR. DEEMS.
The Rev Dr. Charles I. Deems, pastor Of the Church
Of the Strangers was called by Mr.. Lord. Dr. Deems
had been in attendance since Tuesday morning.
and had sat among the proponents friends III
the courtroom, frequently talking with william
H. Vanderbilt He was evidently what the law,
counsel did not seem troubled with any authorizations
thai his esmuny would TeIi against them. HIS direc
TO the Vanderbilt University. at Nashville Tenn, He
had known the Commodore. he said, since 1850 ana
had known wife member Of his congregation
before her marriage 10 %" CnminOd0re lie sald tha
ne never sa the Commodore and MS wife t0Pener TO
talk about the gifts the University at any time before
Mr. Lord-Did you gather from what the Commodore
told YOU that he the money In accordance with the
Dr. Derms-I gathered from the conversation that.
without Mira. Vanderbilt applying 10 him. he did IT on
his motion, intending to do some benevolent thlng
but thinking n eIit I'm that direction would be pleasing
to her. He said he intended IL should be surprise TO
his darling.
that direction because OF his wifes wishes rather than
to the Morayian Church
that lac intended 10 appropriate other money Tor tue
Morayian Church In compliment TO his mother. .o
Mr. LUru-Dd not tell you that he would make pro-
vision fOr other Institutions ~ his VIII -.
DeemS-I
Mr. Lord-wero you not witness to a will of the Com
Dr. Dcems-I knew nothing Of the execution OF his
VIII until read OF IL in the newspapers after his death
Odd you any papers In his house after ms deatn
AtNO sir was present at the Of the death, but
saw documents that remember:
Odd you see the destruction OF any papersf A.
Odd you never know OF the destruction Of win
made by the Commodore' A.-N0 sr never heaIu
Instead OF cross-examIning the Witness Mr.. Clinton
made MIN bis own witness and asked 9m 70 give tne
conversation which the Commodore first spoke OF the
gift to the University. He answered that the Commo-
Gated man, but that he was most conspicuous Amcr
citizen that the greatness OF me- success womb give
an argument against e0ucatOn and its useuness that
It hadDeen secretly Lifelong regret TO MIN that he Was
not educated The witness sald that ne ten pegan 70
tlons and he received the proposition OF help-
ing them with o warmth that surprised the witness
Wnen the Commodore finally announced his purpose to
make the gift he SAID that ne had had tins in mlnd our
Ing the Rebellion He spent a million OF money in send
Ing vessel against Southeners 70 show his views
then, aud he wanted TO give this money after the WaI
was over TO show them that the OI the North were
ready 10 extend the olive branch. , -,
DR. Deems spoke Of the git Of the Church OF
tho strangers, and Of his saying to the Commo-
tnde 10 You I" r make you pay for IT," answered the
and a. much oftcner As YOU can" "Tas stipulation"
continued the witness, faithfully kGpL- "hon tne
people in the room laughed, Dr. Deems said he
II was now the proponents turn to introduce spr
ual testimony" and Mr. Clinton accordingly asked the
II the Commodore mad ever SAID anytng to him
this subject go.
Ou one occasion In 1869" the reply. II told him
of visit that had paid with merchants from tue
South al their request To a medium named roster;
TOLD hi that WASH dressed clergymeu, and thai the
medium frequently addrCs s,ed me as II were member
Of Congress. He performed some very curious Things IN
regard the death Of my and other friends. The
Commodore said, Doctor. do you believe these things
were done by spiutsP No. answered, only by the
spt OF Foster; and expressed emphatically my dis
be lief IN modern spumasm. He said, / think 80 too
He said nevertheless that there SKIN and bcuteuess
I'm Il and he felt Interested He added that he never
could believe that so pure woman as his mother would
communicate with him through dirty fellow as FOs
ter. At another time he said he agreed with the sent
ments expressed by sermon from the text; II
believed not Moses ana tnC prophets neither would
they believe though should use from the dead le
Thought IL people did not believe tn" Bible they would
not be likely 10 believe though spirit should come to
tell them the ruth. lie dld not think that Almighty
God used Sucn means 20 communicate with man."
Dr Dsems's testimony ms not yet been completed.