The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1878-04-14

Tor McGarrahaD. number Of punctures apparently
made Tor the purpose OF spacing The nes the spaces
between the lines on The last two pages-which DC.
Garrahan CLAIMS have been fraudulent,y substituted
Tor pages bearing ms signature were considerably
eral texture Of the parch OF pages
Eeavier and sitter than that OF most OF the preceding
paxes ou. moi more 50 than page 8. or than passl,
General Burdette-Do you know Of any rule OF
which parchment Is made TO DO OF the same thick
ness2
witness-I do not (Lauehtor)
Mr. lngersoll-You are not AGO with the pro.
ceases Of the manufacture Of parchment; are your
Mitness-No, SIR tRenewed iaughisr)
Mr. Armstrong further gave IL as his opinion that
the wider space and diminished number OF lines on
the last page but one might be accounted for by
desire The part Of tho person preparing the patent
to avoid awkward DIVISION Of the concluding por-
ticn including the attestng clause. &c.
M Hooper the librarian Of the Attorney Gen.
erals ofice, was recalled, and produced a book
taining copy cl the Attorney Generals letter of
March ~ requesting the suspension OF The issuance
IN The record follows letter on another subject mat
bears date March Is.
An rsslxuArioS AND 4 SCENE
Judge d. s. Wilson asked the Committee whether IL
would be competent TO show that mr. shaw when 10.
this case had mado an oner of money to Mr.
Hopper TO exhibit some which had not been SHOWN
mimi
Mr. Shaw Immediately sprang to his feet and de-
manded that tins uation be proven retraccd
once. He held commission, ne said, from the State
OF New YORK to practice in her highest courts and
member Of the Bar OF tho Supreme Court oil the
UEed States. His oath required hun 10 perjury
and bribery. and and wanted to know whether his
advcrsary-.an obscure magistrate, just from tho
Bench OF an obscure court on our Western border
could assai his reputation with IMMUNITY.
the chairman OF the committee said that Mr. Shaw
take notice Of the nsinuat0n and. all though
Mr.. Shaw insisted that evidence should DO taken
corning II, the COMMITTEES unanimously dechnod TO
allow the matter 70 proceed iurtheE
The committee then took recess. and Mr. Hopper
happy 10 have opportunity to testify lha. the In
situation Was utterly unfounded
CONTRADICTORY APFIDAvIra
After the recess long controversy took place be
tween the opposing counsel as to the admissbity Of
printed volume containing what purportcd to be
Lard before the House Judiciary Commit
tee by tho Now Idria Company when
tho case was under investigation in 1870 Judge
D. S. wilson stated unaer oath that TO the best OF MS
knowledge and belief these substantially true
copies, and that the originals, although diligently
searched for by him and the former clerk OF the
judiciary Committee cannot now BIO found. Mr.. shaw
insisted that the witness could not establish
RICHNESS OF these printed documents by his uuas-
sisted recollection, and, as matter OF fact. he (Mr
Shaw knew that OF the matter prin ted In this
volume differed materially from tho original docu.
ments, and particularly what purported to be- tho
evidence given by Judge Jeremiah $. Black before
Judge D. s. Wilson replied thut the portions Of tho
printed book referred 70 by Mr. Shaw are not
offered as testimony.
Mr.. Shaw rejoined that tho inaccuracy Of the book
IN this respect tended 10 dscredt the rest Of its
tents s'ez pedc hcrculemAn
William Nicely Thompson, president OF the Now
Idria Company, In reply q series OF interrogatons
testified that numDcr OF tho aIlants cmployG Is
OF the company or settlers on tho Panocha Grando
Rancho from whom the company bad purchased
claims.
Counsel for Mciarrahan offered documentary tcsti-
mony show that date OF the affidavit OF Sur
voyor General Epson, which purported to have been
signed in Washington, m Official document, bearing
his signature rs Of the Same day. issued In Calf
forniA
largo mass OF other documentary evidence was
Land before the committee ~ counseion each side, all
OF II, together with tho printed book above referred
being subject 10 tho committees future decision
as 30 It's admssibiiity and value.
Judge D. s wilson then offered to intro
drcc the evidence gwen by Juogo jeremiah
s. Black, before the House judiciary Commit
tee IN reply 20 some charges that have
been made against him during tnis 10 vest CATION.
Senator Mcdonald remarked that these charges did
not any figure IN this case, far he could See
employment from tho New ldria Company until long
AFTER he Judge Black) ceased to DO Attorney General
Judge Blacks his taking feo subsequent 10 tho expl-
ration Of his term Attorney General not dis
crediable The Senator added that he would have
Mr.. shaw sa,d he hoped tho evidence would be ad-
mttted II would be shown 10 the committee that
pany while acting Attorney General IN this case, and
while thus employed no had welded tho p0wor OF thc
Attorney acnsrss once sSr1aD'iy and opprsssvsy
dence should be allowed 10 60 INTO hs record but for
Inherent rsason-viz, 10 order That the committee
might SEQ how thoroughly this evidence had over
thrown tho Infamous Islander against an eminent and
upright man. The evidence was admitted, Mr.. Ingcr-
previously OCCASION 10 0tBciAtm
sion in tho issue raised by his associate the case
(Mr. shaw against the integrity oil Judge Black He
tMr ingersol wanted the case tried upon It's meri,s
without going into any side issuos.
IMPORTANT TESTIMONY.
simon Stevens OF Now York city, was then called
as witness for McGarraban. He testified that for
many he held intimate relations with Thaddeus
Stevens and with HIM IN Washington during q
part OF every session OF Congress-
Witness proceeded 10 that In tho early part
OF March, 1868, at tho instance OF Colonel John W.
Forncy and The late Joha Hickman, he procured for
GnAA Nan GtAxt
stevens, and WAS present during tho inter
view; General Sickies read aloud a statement
concerning AcGarrahans claim 10 the Panoche
Granae rancho, tho object being induce Thaddsas
Stevens to speak TO President Lincoln about and
promote the issuance OF patent 10 hcGarrahan. Mr..
Stevens being ILL., requested witness to see Secretary
Seward for him ths subject, which he did; tho
Secretary mentioned that the subject had boon already
discussed by the members 81 the Cabinet and prom
Used TO with the President concerping IT, in
timatng that he mr. Seward) was favoraby disposed
TO the McGarrahan SIDE OF the controversy; day or
two afierward President Lincoln hearing that Trad
deus stevens was III c0llcd TO him. 10 Tho pres
ence OF the witness, they hsd talk Of about twenty
min tes' duration national topics; before tho
President said goodby 10 Representative Stevens,
however, they both simultaneously alluded to tho
subject OF the ranocho Grandc rancho; Mr. Lincoln
said no had been pulled and hauled both ways about
signing patent Tor this land claim ana would like
TO know Mr. stevcns' views on the subject he added
jocuariy that hs would really like to get out OF tho
way, as people calling TO soc him on this eontro-
versy to such extent as TO impede pubic business
Representative Stevens replied stating briefly what
he heard Of the merits OF the application for
patent, and concluded as foliows:--
ali you convinced II 10 right-and (parcnthcti-
calIy) Scslcs says u ls-sign the damned thing and
get It out oi tho way
TINS conversation occurred on Thursday. Tho
President having informed Representative stevens
that he would like 20 see him Ton
other mattersl and Mr. Stevens not being well nourh
to call IN person, the witncss at hts request went
TO the Executive Mansion on tho fo,lowirg
saturday TO convey this message and inquire
n tho President wished 10 send any word.
AS coon entered the Presidents room the prcsi-
dent, who was sitting ~ table, pushed parchment
document toward him and said, quoting Thaddcus
Stevens designation OF she patcnt:-"Well,
the damned lhns Is signed" Az tins point
a young gentleman, whom the witness after
ward knew as Mr. Stcddard, the Presidents private
secretary, came IN and carried or tho document,
saying something about IT'S having TO 90 to
the General Land Once; some SIX weeks
subsequently tho witness mot Secretary Seward,
who remarked 20 him, II think Mr. Bates
has got ahead Of mel This remark apparently
referred TO the Attorney Generals letter mentioned
IN the preceding testimony, which resulted 10 tho In
terror Department withholding the delivery OF any
patent TO MtGarraban.I Continuing hrs narrative,
the witness statci That on the strength OF commen-
Gatory letter OF introduction from Horace Greeley e
Mr.. StOdusrd cmpIOvment N Ie