The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1878-07-26

mend that designate person solely the author
nov " complain nat nss are too apy pS
as I receive your reply. lsgncdD T.. A. BuRKK
wAsniSGroS March T. 1877.
Coz. Nieho0., Nee or'eos, D, =,
We have bad an interview with President Hayes lie
quests that opportunity be allowed him TO remove dim.
Ss y "nd S ,s NAY hs mems aIs9, Sna ear
Mr. Burke compliments to senator sherman, with The
u o'clock to night and request, ihs honor Of fey mo,
Gen Gibson's will meet with prompt attention.
Mr.. .Blackburn,R Referring to an assurance
Tepontea cd here that the oSstacS in tho lew way %
the completion OF the electoral count was trace
able to a purpose upon tho part OF certain ele.
guarantees for South Carolina and Louisiana.
did you intend to convey the idea to Mr.. Sher-
man or his associates or did you convey. 10
them tho idea that that was the sole cause OF the
objections that were being made to the COM
pletion q the electoral count2
The Witness-The matter may be best cx.
planned by rccting an Interview that transpired
between Mr.. Hewitt and myself immediately
after the Democratic caucus In which the Dem
result pesat h ceetora @ sSn count t. or il other words.
that the count should 10 on 10 peiaceaqp,e, ,d he
upon Mr.. Hewitt at his house. / think il was the
there asked Mr.. Hewitt to be kind enough 70
He said; mir. Burke certainly there Is
T2 occasion ss & i91 Gsnd ihHrs3 on ina sIrs s.nd
Of that kind" replied at once. Il is too late
to discuss that question since the action Of your
caucus last night. II was well known that II
was the desire OF the representatives Of Louis
lana that tho House should insist upon the con-
dition that Louisiana and south Carolina wSre were
pointed ont to the gentlemen Of the House that
our situation was thiS if we We're left to the
~ forced
or to fight That II we traded the Democratic
party would lose the two United States Sana,,
there was danger Of plunging the country into
revolution; but. notwithstanding that iact,
iEGc' count 9nH shoSiS proceed witSo%t .dis'
tory. objections. Mr.. Hewitt replied: Mr..
Burke, tho Democratic party cannot
country into anarchy and strife, ot upsetting
values and disturbing trade, We have deter.
mined to put the responsibility OF this great
ders Of the Republican party and go be-
fore the people four years hence ! said
may endure it four years. but we cannot. and II
IS my duty 70 say to YOU and you may say I TO 10
can have peace and quiet in this coun-
try with Louisiana and South Carolina
under carpet bag rule. they have made mis-
and say 10 them that with the same
consistency that they voted for the Elec-
s2ra snarchS S and pFtrF'e psr With '0Hn' thn sas a1
consistency they ean make the condition that
the bayonets aro To be taken away from Lou
isiana and South Carolina; else the conditions
Of anarchy and strife that they would avoid Will
surely follow Mr.. Hewitt assured mo Of
the symuathicS Of his associates and himself
and while he intmated that his position on the
Electoral hill had been such that he could not
take position in the House in accordance with
my views. would make these representations 10
his assO'iat"- and they would do what they
coull in the interest Of Louisiana AMI South
Carolina. When stated To- Mr.. sherman what
| hnl "a o. b.
rescntatiVes | should have stated that what
meant was that We had impressed these. same
views upon the members Of the House. We had
gone tO one. two three. half dozen at a time,
and made these statements. and they had pro-
duced kilograms and letters from their constitu
They said they did not dare to take that respon-
sibilty; that they wcro, anxious and willing
10 serve louisiana and II we thought they could
do 80 by going in and forcing the Republican
leaders to give these guarantees they were will
we're gentlemen acting from other motives who
had been opposing the count from the com
Mr.. Backburn-The reason for my question
Is that one Of four kilograms. In which you speak
Of the weary struggle BY the iiliihusters. seems
TO recognize the fact that there were two cle-
ments cooperating NJ that time 10 prevent the
completion Of the count.
The Witucss-Ihe movement dated from the
18th Of February when there were from - 10
~ fllibu-iers. and we sought 10 swe! their
ranks. with view of forcing the radical lead
ers to give these guarantees. We did 80
swell the ranks until the vote was nj one time
ll6 viii III was sufficient 20 stop the count II
was at that period Mr.. sherman sent for me.
aud ut that period these conferences were held.
Mr.. Backburn-Then the expression NJ tho
belief you gave Mr.. sherman simply meant that
10y giving these guarantees you were satisfied a
suiilcient number would be drawn of from the
dilTory party in the House 10 enable the count
t. be cOmplet"dt
Witness-I was and events subsequently
proved that to be true
Tho committee then took a recess TO moo sub
Jcct to the call OF tho Chairman, Tho members
IT tho committee aud attaches left this evening
via Mobile.