The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-05-19
What the Herald's Dispatches
Have Produced.
GOVERNOR EMORY'S STATEMENT.
Aiming and Drilling Actu-
ally Going On.
WHY HE ASKED FOR TROOPS
Indications of the Leaders To
Be Arrested.
Icy TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD

[BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD
SALT LAKE CITY, May Is, 1877.
II seems your dcspat chcs from salt Lake City arc
challenged. The following statements from the
Governor OF Utah and the United States District
Attorney win show whether they have been mis-
with him the following conversation last evening"
INTERVIEW WITH GOVERNOR EMORY
CogREsroNDgNT--Wha was II that induced you
to ask the Secretary OF War TO reinforce the United
states garrsons in Utah?
Governor Emory thought it wen 10 increase
the federal forces in the Territory for the purpose
OF allaying the evcrish excitement that exists
among the Gentiles.
CoRREsPoNpENT--Wha hat excitement?
Governor ENoRy-Thc excitement caused by the
general report that the Mormons are arming and
drilling have asked for what think would be a
sufficient number of troops to keep the peace here
In any contingency
commemorative you as Governor OF the
Territory opinion to express of the probable dis
position OF the Mormon leaders in case Brigham
Young or others should be indicted for crime?
Governor EMORY think it very doubtful il
Brigham Young could be convicted by a Mormon
jury. think it very doubtful If there would be n
formidable resistance to federal authority. There
might be resistance from few Of the most de-
pendent and fanatical OF his followers, but am
not yet prepared to anticipate wholesale organized
resistance.
WHY EMORY WANTED MORE TROOPS.
CORRESPONDENT DO you base this opinion on
leaders and people or on the anticipated presence
OF the troops you have asked for?
Governor EMoRy-Thc presence Of additional fed
eral soldiers will have a sautary crcct. There is
population OF the Territory is composed Of
two distinct elements These are Mormons and
Gcntlcs the. number vi the former greatly pre-
ponderating. AT critical iuncturc there might be
more or less conflict between them. STILL don't
.hink the most influential Mormon leaders would
follow Brigham Young In resistance to federal
thonty.
THE MORMON LEADERS.
entail leaders among the Mormons.
Governor EMoHy-Certainly not; d. II. Wells
George q. Cannon ana the Prophets sons Brigham
and John W., who are dependent on him as they
are, would probably lolIow HIM in any scheme of
resistance which they could not divert him from
until failure obliged them to abandon il.
CORRESPONDENT But who are the real leaders?
Governor EMORy-A class OF men who handle not
merely the religious, but the business interests of
the Mormon Church such men as Bishop John
sharp, superintendent OF the Utah Southern Rail-
way William H. Hooper, President OF the Deseret
National Bank; Horace s. Eldredge, Superinten-
dent OF Zion Cooperative Mercantile Institution
and Feremarz Little, Mayor of Salt Lake city.
ANTAGoNIsrIc INTERESTS.
CoRREsroSpENT-ls there a set antagonism be-
tween Mornlons and Gentcs In the Territory in re-
spect to mercantile and other business affairs,
Governor EMoRy-The time was when such an
antagonsm prevailed here, very much against the
real interests Of the Territory. 1t has been gradu-
ally wearing away in Salt Lake City, although it
still exists In other parts OF Utah.
CoRREsroSDEST-Does Mormonisni, with it's in
stiution of polygamy and it's thcocrauc system,
promise to promote the prosperity Of Utnls
Governor EMoRy-rhe Mormon people OF this Ter
ritory are largely foreigners and 1t is Impossible to
recognize them Us American citiZc MS IN the highest
sense Of the term. They have simply been
taught what their duty as good Nor
mons: they haze had no advice respecting
their Obligations as citizens Of the United States
Whenever election is to take place and speeches
concerning it are made in the Territory they are
always made for or against the Church ticket, and
tile choice OF the voter is between Mormon and
Nom Mormon. There Is nothing republican, moth.
ing democratic about 1t.
MORMON IGNORANCE.
CORRESPONDENT Must understand you as say
ing that the MorInons in Utah are so ignorant OF
or so divorced, from the United states government,
that the principles Of the federal constitution are
never discussed among them, and that national
political parties and party platforms are entirely
lcit out oi their councils.
GoyERSoE EMOEY--Entlrelv. | don't suppose the
Mormon people OF this Territory, who comprise
iour.1fths Of its population have the slightest
idea OF what constitutes a republican form OF gov
eminent.
PROBABLE ARRESTS.
CoRRKsroSpESr--Con the hundreds OF
murders committed in Utah within the last thirty
years, were these in your opinion products OF Nor.
mon teachings: were tley committed ~ direction
Of the Mormon pricstloods
Governor EMORY ought TO begin my answer to
that question by saying tina; many crimes in tins
Territory might nave ptcn coInnlllled no Mofnoils
had been here. Other murders have been commit.
ted through religious ialiaicism.
CoRRrs pos DLST--ls your conviction nXed In re-
yard TO the author OF those crimes,
Governor EMORY arose ut his cigar ana said
smiIinu-I am confident that IIaight. Higpcc aud
stewart VINO participated with Lee In the Noun
ain Meadows massacre, will be arrested aud con
rlcted
CoRRtspospENT--par me, Governor, but thai
~ q barren response.
Governor ENoisy--WlyY
CoRREspoxD ENr-- Because 1t omlts TO mention
the chsl criminals accused.
Governor EMoRy-rhen think they viii also be
arrested, convicted and punished.
IS IxTERyIEw WITH HOWARD.
United states District Attorney Howard, VINO has
before him the most dificult TASK ia TAN, except
nat OF yonr correspondent, responds as follows Y