The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-11-27
KEYSER'S CLAIMS.
Does Jackson S. Schultz Owe the City
Sixty Thousand Dollars?
THE TWO ASSIGNMENTS.
The Ring Plum ber's Want
of Faith in Figures.
HIS ENTANGLED BOOKS.

HIS ENTANGLED BOOKS.
A hcap OF big loather-co account books, tow
eriug mp in the Aldermanc chamber yesterday after
noon, guided John II. Keyscr-ths notorious plumber
under Ring-to the chair he was 10 occupy while
continuing his testimony before the Committee OF
Investigation.
TIE TESTIMONY.
When the committee assembled Mr.. Keysor took his
seat, twisted his logs together removed his specta-
ces, and, swinging them between the fore finger and
thumb OF his left hand, awaited events. He handed
to Mr.. Cole the two assignments which werc made to
Jackson s. Schultz concerning which no had Deen
questioned on Saturday. The examination proceeded.
O. Did you sign these paperss A. Yes Sir.
Q. They were signed on me dates they bear :. A.
don't know.
Q Do you expect any Immunity from the city OF
New YORK on the ground that you will give such test-
mouy as you may be able concerning tho Ring frauds?
A. am giving
Q. Do you expect any immunity on account OF CIV
Ing testimony concerning the Ring fraudsf Please
answer my question: A. can only answer you by
saying have testified.
@ But you must answer mo by saying yes or no
A. can only answer you In that way, sir: couldn't
do 1t latter pause); testified to the best Of my
knowledge at all tmes (aitor another pause); ] be-
sick couldn't hold my head up
Q when what dones A. Both OF these papers.
Q. Who held your hand while you wrote your name9
A. don't think anybody.
Q, You could hold your hand up could your A.
Yes; sir.
Q But your head you couldn't hold upf A. !
couldn't tell
Q. How were the papers before your A. couldn't
tell IT'S blank tho whole OF it.
Q. Vol, wnen you testified the other day that you
were induced by the lawyers TO do you didn't know
whether you notf 1t was all blankP A.
That was when IL was dona
Q But you don't remember to have signed the
paper at ALI A. On, yes, do.
Q. Well then, II isn't all blank. Let see II we
can't oil up some OF the rest OF the blanks
The above bit OF the testimony, gwen in FULL is a
fair sample OF the nature OF the whole investigation.
Sometimes ten minutes were required TO elicit
categorical answer TO single question. Mr. Kcyser
stated that the papers were both signed in his sick
room IN the presence Of Francis G. Barlow;
consequent upon the troubles which he
was involved. AT arst he said he hadn't
believed IL was upon the day they were dated.
"Wel,n said Counsellor Cole, with a sigh OF relief
been very easy to have given to my question
at first" Keyser said he hadn't read tho papers
he upon on SATURDAY Bs ns
tell, he said, which OF the two papers ne had first
signed. This declaration drew IRON Mr.. Colo the nace
question, Werc you sworn tho other day Y" TO which
the witness s0berly replied in the Affirmative he had
claim, he SAID, against the city he had testified at
previous session, for work done prior and subse
quent the date Of the assignments; ne had not
finished up working on his contracts until tho Decem.
Der following; uf.or his name had been connected
with the Ring frauds he continued receive orders
from the city officials tor work until he refused to
ecuie them November OF year; Of the $3.50 900
which he claimed The city Is indebted to him, the
largest portion, he sad accrued before he made tho
q Then amer you mado this assignment did you
consider That you still had claim against the city
that partprior TO October g. 1877 A. Not for those
claims.
Q. Then what did you moan wheu the other day,
you swore you st,i had claim against the city tor
$3.50. ooOs A. ! meant there was that much work un-
O. And didn't you mean you had still claim against
judsmentY A. have no CLAIM asAins. the CITY; mos.
OF the Claims are embraced in that assignment,
| think.
MI. Cole read the assignment, which, after decIar
ing that the witness was indebted TO the city and
county OF Now YORK In divers sums OF money, which
he desired 70 repay, and TO the payment OF
which he thereby in consideration Of ST. did 'assign,
SELL transfer and said Jackson ). Schultz
all claims, demands ana causes Of action" which
the witness had against the National broadway
Bank, OF tho city Of New York, aud all moneys
due or becoming 10 him from the said bank
ana IRON the persons mentioned In an appended
schedule; Jackson Schultz TO hold the same IN trust
Tor tho city Of Now York. pending an accounting OF
the CITY with Kcyser rho personal claims that were
assigned were as od follows To- ;7!ohn Fox 49, r.
s saia g. wSed.siS 4; James s hayss
ysy, Sass. 900; q, v. aoLsan, sli, sSi; James
A MssSs.n .- sst III Es ssis So,
w. A. Herring, 5000 The namo OF Orison Blunt
was erased rom tho schedule Witness stated that
he had been paid Keyser admitted that at the time he
made the assignment he actually believed he was In
oebted to tho city, and he found some difficulty
planning why nc now believed that upon fair
counting with the city and county he would be about
This schedule did not cover ali the claims ho
had against individuals Witness could not tell why
those particular claims been selected for assign
mcnI Ho never wished a man to pay dollar bsck to
him did he
o Although you knew that Tweed had gotten
money fraudenty through your raised bills from tho
city, you wouldn't have tue money paid back 10 you
that you might restore II? A. did not care how ne
got they were all In trouble, and not going 10
trouble them any moro.
cra Barlow, Mr. Schultz aud, no thought Mr.. Pcckham
were present; he could not upon what theory the
had been selected; Mr. Cole then called the attcn
tion oil the witness to what he called the second
assignment, which was sworn to before l. j. Mccarthy,
notary public, assigning all the claims OF witness aud
all tho OF against the city and county of
New York to Jackson s. schultz together with all his
account books and vouchers pertaining TO SAID claims
Witness said lie went 10 Mr. Schultz who was almost
a stranger TO him. and asked Tor advice when his
trouble came. Mr.. Schultz offered to help him, aud
had thereafter boon his best friend Mr. Schultz
went TO Comptroller Grcon upon the sugges-
ton OF witness and requested the appointment
throusnout the city, appraiso II and elect settle
ment. Mr.. Green had refused to do this. Alderman
Cole asked wnat Mr.. Green's Tor refusing
"Because he Is naturally pig headed," was the reply
The whole sum collected ny Mr.. Schultz upon the
claims assigned by witness about 500, 900
After fifteen minutes fencing between Messrs.
Colo and kcyser attempt OF tho
former 10 get an answer TO the question
whcther Mr.. Schultz had not collected this money in
trust TOR tho city, witness finally stated that the
papers were forced out Of him when
SICK and weary aud not IN u condition TO UNDER
stand himself; therefore he responsible Tor
the papers. Everything connected win them
very dim 10 his mind. He was asked whether IL was
| not his understanding that Mr.. schulz should not
have Kept that 500 OOJ until settlement should have
been had with Thu CITY, witness said, ''Woii don't
the writing express II That's all ! can sayU Mir.
schultz had tried, he SAID for four years got
tement, and, failing in that, had turned tho money
over 10 witness again. When witness agreed assign
i his claims LhcT0 Mr IlIden