The New York herald., 1877-10-02
Interview Between the President
and the Visiting Chiefs.
STATEMENT OF THEIR WANTS.
Red Cloud and Spotted Tail
Need Money and Clothes.
THE PRESIDENTS REPLY.

The Indians were citizens dress, in strong contrast
with their appearance tho two previous occasions,
whom thoy in full savage costume Secretaries
schurz and Evars Postmaster General Key, Assistant
Secretary Mccormick and General Crook present
among other prominent persons.
Tho President having remarked that hc was ready
to boar further his friends had to say, Spotted
Tail look scat at his side and informed the President
who're hs had decided to have bis agency. The por-
ton Of land he held no looked on as his own,
and IL was where he wanted TO raise not only
his own children, but all his people. Ho wanted
them to become prosperous and intelligent ike
the white people. When the great council tCongress
decides any they all wished TO abide by It, Ho
loved his land and he knew it we'll; no loved it He
could throw II away for nothing to the whites
The place had picked out for the agency was
on Wounded Knee Crock. and no wanted his
provisions and clothing sent there. Ho wanted his
Great Father to agree 10 this when his Great
Father decided It was right ana good. 'You see,"
no said s'thc representatives OF our people here We
are very poor. We havo no wagons to help with; no
servants; none to tell what 10 do How wo
and the whites who have married among our people
hnow how 10 get along unless you help them? We do
not move just now; want somo time to sell
what property have at present homes
We will move in tho spring or any time alter
that. We want our provisions removed 10 the agency
lave named from wherc they arc. II they are LETT
without man charge many OF our goods Will be
gone before spring, as on former occasion, You
told that your nation increases. We want to In
crease, too, in properly and IN numbers. You said
you wished US to live ike white men, aud
so here to-day. dressed Ia whito
mems clothes. Whatever you say to shall
be known TO my children, my grandchildren and my
me great many things, including wagons and cattle
and big schoolhouse. want the Kind Of cattle which
The whites Lave, and we want 10 raise COWS We do
not want animals with long horns, but snort ones.
HE WANTS A WRITTEN CONTRACT
want everything IN writng before go home, SO
that there may be mistake We want English
teachers. Those now among US only teach 10 read
and write the Sioux language. We want to have
teach u.s. We should like 10 have saw and grls m,l
and agricultural implements and seeds look round
and find you have plenty of stores. Wo have only
store. and when We pay eur money there
have nothing to show for II. We want
FIVE six Stores because then We could buy cheaper
At one than could another. Some OF those before
you been In civilization before. They had
idea what the whites we're before they came here
dressed and so they They want $40 apiece to buy
things for their women children. and hey would
As tho weather is getting be little cold we should
like to have overcoat apiece We you wearing
overcoats, and We should like to have them.
CLOUDS SPEECH
Red Cloud spoke 10 had come hero TO day to
nnd whether he could have his agency changed.
He had roamed the country where hs now lived tor
ftty-six years. aud should like TO have his agency
White Clay Greek. That ground ho could not give up.
He did not for horses They had plenty OF
them-but Tor wagons, moving machines, ploughs,
sawmills and gristmlls They did not want cattle
with horns hkc elKs, uut shorthorns, and
big schooihouse They would like TO have Catholic
priest aud TO live among them and toach thcm.
lie aid not ask these things for nothing. Halt the
Black Hills had not been paid Tor lie wanted tho
Indians 10 have sac piece and overcoats, ard
thinks his people arc poor and have nothing
,S ,S,s mvru winter lie would ike his provisions
10 be good. II they should be sent TO the Missouri
River the long tail rats there woul get into the boxes
and destroy them. II, he said you our coun-
try and looked at our people the water would como
INTO your eyes AS 70 myse % n am poorer S ,nsn any
otner horses have been stolen from me and the
were destroyed. The injury IS at least $4,000. 1
want nalf OF this money and tho remainder other
lhipgs
The President then addressed the Indians as fol-
Ny FRlESps--I am glad to you this morning 1
am glad TO SEQ you dressed like white people You
look we'll IN your clothes, ike white people.
IL shows that you wish to live like white
people. have not much to say about the
what said to you last week. You have spoken about
the places where you wish 10 have your agencies. l
am glad that you would be satisfied TO have agencies
ON the reservations allotted 10 YOU But, | told
you, IT is too latc IN the season to change your
present agencies. Is loo ia.e TO remove Tho
The winter will soon conc on, the streams Will be
frozen up, and. therefore, no movement OF supplies
can be made We wish you 10 help your people to re-
move near the supplies and General Crook VIII
you TO 40 Next spring places can be selected near
White River tnat will SUIT YOU And now as to tho
things you have asked for. You want trunks, over
coats and money. The great council Of my nation
has put The money and property Tor you Ia
cnarpe Of the Secretary OF tho Interior lie can give
you whatever the great council has authorized him
give. IL VIII be glad to give you what he can. and
think satisfy you, and this Is the end OF
grand council am glad you came Let me advise
you TO move to the supplies as YOU can,
am glad you are satisfied with White RIVER hope
you will all reach your homes safely and in good
healh Before you go the Secretary will give you
many of the things you asked for he can and
now 1 will be glad 70 shake hands with each OF you
and wish you well.
The Indians then separately shook hands with the
President and also With the Secretary Of the Interior
They appeared satisfied with the remarks of the
President, and departed from the Executive Mansion
with smiling countenances. They Will leave for their
homes on Wednesday or Thursday.
REMOVING INDIAN cHAPLAISs--AN OLD PRIEST
AMONG THE SIOUX ON THE INFLUENCE OF
CATHOLIC MIssIoNARIEs-Ho LIBERTY OF
CONSCIENCE IS DENIED THE ADoR1GINEs
[BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.l
WASHINGTON, Oct. /, 1877.
In compliance with the suggestions Of tho commu.
nicatiou IN to.day's HgRALD under the caption, are
moving Indian Chaplains, " The HERALD correspondent
called this afternoon the Rev. Father Revcillo
at the pasorate Of 81. Domnic's Church
in South Washington The object or tho visit beng
explained, tho reverend gentleman kindly made the
following staicnent:-He did not know the Nez Perccs,
but he had been with tho sioux Tor over three years
he went there in 1869, and established the first
district Catholic mission with tho Dskotas or Sioux,
n Devils Lake reservation He knows that all tho
sioux Indians have the greatest respect for the lack
robe-ie drap. They always ready 10 listen
10 and bc instructed by the priests, because they
express IL, they nevor told them lie.
TIN roLicY
In his opinion 1t would be the best policy II tho
government wishes TO give satisfaction to all tho
indians who express wish have Catholic priests
le, them have them He believes 1t would conducive
20 peace and civilization. Application has frequently
been made TO have Catholic priests by the Sioux, who
have and always do express their preference Tor them
ovcr minis tcrs or any otnor denomination.
DENIED LIBERTY or CONSCIENCE
Ono great difficulty that the government has to
tcnd with which seems 10 bo lito understood, or IF
erstood little becdcd IS that the Indians denied
shnt which is always accorded TO tho whites and to all
ne Christians by all civilized nations anu that
A. Ibcr;y OF conscience. The Indians denied that.
Tbov cannot believe the professions OF inc
tI.cv arc he rim IN xor.