The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-09-22

O.-Do YOU know in any or all of those cases
what would have been the proper rental for
those prcmiscs2 Al do not Know in any OF
THE surERvrsoRs' RNo.
Q,-Wse thosc negotiations tor the lcaeos
ol the Suprrv sors' Riny2 AIN some cass
they wrrr Mr.. H. A. Woodward and Mr.. j. II.
In ,"rsoll can give you all the information on
O-W,ii. ~ to those that Won have test flcd
concerning. can you mention which q the
Itng2 Ain the maii.r Of the West Twenty
seventh street lease, Mr. Woodward. | think,
Insersoll. 40 not know OF anybody. else ut.
tcndug TO those leases except Mr.. Ing, rsoll
d"ntt'ink am. That they all paid ior their
bases there IL no doubt. but who did tho work l
U.-Nnw, M to the Stockwcl cnse do you re-
nculh"r anything con 'crnng that especially
Al do not. especially.
Q-Do you know there was money paid for
that lrnsc2 A.. L know there was.
Q But you do not remember to whom II was
paidl Al think II was Mr. Woodward. but
Odd you share the money for that particu.
lnr lease do YOU r"m"mr,rr Al presume
pnid shared it. If knew anything about the
matter.
AMI profit 'ss-,NreW perhaps from political
point q vicw-scris OF quest ons bns'd upon
Mr.. 1weDd's evidence before the legislative
committees in the Wood investigation in II,
and the comparatively recent investigation of
the charges against Senator NoOdln. Tho gist
Q.-On that Investigation you wore asked,
nid YOU n ~ to whieh YOU r.nled.
testimony on that ,o~asion truthful or not?
A.-No. sir, i WIS false.
Q.-Nnd the evidence You nre now giving Is
! true, is ~ Ayes sir. II is. alen.uiciy.
| Q.-And your rvidrnr" given hefcr'. under
/ o1ih. on those occasions w'1s tllscf Alt was
Thorn were n score Of questions asked in,hia
! WHY for ~ other appnr'nt purpose than To
/ cirt the tainr adm -.ions from The tness
/ that hN had NOT spoken the truth hcfor,, AMI
! hi- ns-"v"ritiens that hris doing so now. Final
| ~ ~" DID nuns pnti"u"" gnv" WY n little un
! dcrth = Worrying and b" "Nplgin"l:
o. Th.t examination Tie Wood inquiry in
1871 took pla'" lmp'd, ni'ly after my dim nj;
tics fret commenced. II wns then understood
! an 0uls us Tint We should do our host To protect
mons names for Tie sake Of thor families.
| that md tnnn nindn those statements, which
| were. most Oi them. false.
ALDERMAN cowrSG EXAMINES TWEED
From tbs point Aldirma Cowing for some
TIM condnct% tnc INAUGURATION. icss SIM
nation from Mr. rw Dis knowledge. than for
the development OF some hidden reason for has
Q.-whrn wnre YOU first appris"d that you
you'd hc "Namin.d hy 2 Commiit"c OF TIE
| resolution TO that rIrot W adopted.
Q-iou had nothing 10 do with procuring
your examination hy this commiti""f A.,
Nothing IA any maun"r.r shap" Whatever:
WIS oplo-rd To- ~ then and nm now. and haven't
| answer rcd 20 question that want ii to.
O.-lIuNr you been nppr sod that your nm
sw r. to- thorH '-tious az" voluntary Al
have not hcrn. and ), If not voluntary.
Owns thor" committee " tho Senate
wilt h came hero this year for the purpose OF
| usk ing YOU uu ~ .one W ia reference TO Senator
Wdt,din2 A.-Thrr, wa-.
C-AnI did ,on moi decline To answer tho
uu '~iions 80 that rOmWitten2 Al did. for tho
reason that WIS advised tlnt did not mood to
| rrui said had ls''t'r not with this committee
WIS placed IN diilrrcui position. ! was given
Co untn rs'ani thHt II had tho power tn appeal to
Supronr! curt judy, an t. in "as" 81 my re-
'usal. g. inlet upon mca punishment for con-
Q-You are in Jail already what moro could
they do % youP Al WAS advised TINT they
could. IN ems" n my refusal. subject m" to a
moro rigorous confinement, k''p my friends
from me-, and had meter submit without that:
Q-pni YOU mus. to ," written paper called
a Confession 81 A.-No. sir: u statement
o.-ls your 'stiriony here substantially the
same ~ that -thtrmrniY h.-lt II. | pronose
statement 10 the committee that you may CON
Q.-whcn did YOU first agree to give your tes-
tmony here Voluntarily A.-NcVer tvounti-
Q-You consider then that you arc tcsiifyinc
under compusioni Al do consider that am
under compusi'nf
Here there was another discussion. Mr. Colo
seemed simply astnunded ~ III" att tud" Of Al
d"rman towing. who 20 him seemed DESTROYS
oi impress ~ nr.n the with'~S = IA nj mat ne
WAS not compelled 10 answer questions. Alder
man 'nwinE. h 'w"v"r. argued that he WAS only
| anxious to fix the " tnns-'S pns ton. and TINT
whlle ne hnd no iou' I of the committees power
tnconp"l hls attendance. b" did an ~tion tn"it
rlghi To comp" him to answer thor questions.
Mr. Iw."d Tor X" ia upon the dis .uts On SAy
tlHt d thor" Wis any doubt about D. d. IS r per.
f'"tly willing - stop right whore he We. ~
siirnre would ruit HIN much better, individual
~, Than going on
TWEED AND woopN.
O. nv Alderman Cow nei-when the Senate
Moodin had YOU ANY fl'rrnt feeling toward
HIM rom what you now have Al hnd noth,
| INK but Kind feelings toward him then, AM
hnv" not now. and regret very mu'h that
nav" had g. mention MIN nj all. II" alw4y-
tr'H'rl me klndly ana aid'd me v "a my bulls
ana have nothing hut kindly feelings toward
@ understood YOU say TINT YOU neyer pai,
nnv money to senator Woodin? A.-No. sir
We're YOU present when money was phi,
10 him. Al positively stated that | was not
Q.-And all your knowledge is from mere ia
i,rrucr A-from conversation with him ans
Ok your knowledge hased on what Mr.
Wnsuw snidf A.-rhat AMI what Mr. Nooiii
SAID when asked him i all WAS s,ltisia tory
and h. sud II WIS MI right
Q-Was it Your custom t. visit pnrtcs WHOM
= nancy was paid -. ma nsk them II they w"r'
Satish"df A-Not Ia visit them, but when me
them casually | spoke To- them about il.
Q-Haye you refreshed yoar memory SO a
ent time who w"r" officers 81 o." city Govern
{ mrnl when you were connected with ~ A.
do not even know who tne present city ON ia,
are. and the list has not been furn shed me. /
1 | had II would point out all know.
Q.-Dur.ng the time you were in power wa
, there an organization known NJ thu Amrricu
T Club in cxistcnrc2 A-Thcre WAS, and loni
p | while before my time.
O. When Wac it organized? AIN 1859,
| believe.
? Q.-For what purpose was il organized? A.
/ | For social purposes.
/ Q.-Was it not for political prrposos2 A.
/ No. sir. Its members were of all political par
I tifs.
Q.-Wcrc any members OF the club associate
with You in running the city Government u
that timef A-Thero were.
r Q.-Can YOU rerull"' 50 ns To- give tho names g
- anvY Al can II you viii furnish me with
r list of the members.
h GLOW WIS that club supported? Al
A. dues
/ Q.-Can you state whether any considcrnhl
i number ot members nf TINT club n.ld sim
cures in the city Govcrnmont2 A II think no
a hut cannot positively siHt". A. said hriort
# show m" the names and viii pick ont, as tar %
= ! know, those in OH 90. and state what position
:. they held and what they did.
4 Mr. Cole here ngain took mp the examination
/ Q.-Now. Mr.. Tweed. understand YOU To sa
= that the testimony given on the wood inVcsti
r gator WIS false Ayes. sir; most Of II.
l.. Q-And the testimony you have given here
a as Ia having hribrd those five senators, il tn
Il truth? Alt IL true.
=. Q-Do you still Say that what Won have sal
=. ~ a -. IT,