The New York herald., 1877-11-15
FOurtou'S Defence OF the Ministerial
Policy and Jules Ferry's Reply.
EXCITING SCENES and STRONG WORDS.
The Government Warned that the Peace Of
the Country is at Stake.
GRANT TO VISIT THE CHAMBERS.
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LONDON Nov Is. 1877.
General Grant win visit the Chamber Of Deputies
and the Senate to-day
TnE DEBArE IN YxHNcu CHAMBER.
In the French Chamber OF Deputies yesterday de-
bate was resumed on N. Albert Grcvy's motion for
tho appointment OF a committee to inquire into cleo
tion abuses.
y. PouRrou's DEFENCE.
n. do Fourlou, Minister Of tho Interior, was the
first speaker lie said he would forget what oGen-
sivo ia H. Grevy's resolution He would not consider
It's WORDS but the which 1t seemcd to pref
ace He defended the principle OF government inter-
elections by historic precedent He calledto
mind the dispatches Of 81 Gambetta ordering the pro-
fects Interfere in elections, aud said:"Ir ever
Intervention Of the government necessary It was
undor the government OF Marshal MacMahon. II was
necessary have official candidates and TO avoid false
semblies fres when opposition, systematically
organized attacks and ocnds the government, should
the sustain all assaults without being able
10 repulse any OF thcmf 1t was too much forgotten
that The constitution tho result of compromise.
One portion OF the conservative party admits the
principle OF republic but reserves to itself the clause
Of It's revision.
xAcxAuoN's POSITION.
"The guardianship OF the constitution was confdsd
to the Marshal He had called to power men who
alvo ican nue
who, yielding to the pressure Of the majority Of the
Chamber, misunderstood conservative interests The
Marshal has tho right recall the terms Of the
stitution and make an appeal to candidates OF all
parties"
THE GOVERNMENTS MAN STRAW
NJ. Fourtou proceeded 10 justify the governments
electoral action by pointing TO the activity Of the
Socialist propaganda.
NJ Gambetta insnuated that tho Socialist manifcsto
issued during tho elections concocsed BY the
polos.
THE cAsE OF BoSNYr-DuvrRDIHR
NJ Hourtou also cited the language for which H.
Duvcrder imprisoned. He Incidentally remarked
that the demand for his release nconceivable
In twenty departments tho mob had cheered for the
Commune aud Reign Of Terror. TO ward OF thu
danger President MacMahon had summoned the do
voted members OF she Right The Ministry could
count upon them as thoy could upon It
THE POWER OF THE CHAMBER pxSrRD.
The government was desirous that light should be
thrown upon proceedings during the elections, but
would not have tho sided inquiry desired by the
y 4.Jl~ -
functions and = violation Of tho constitution Ho de-
clarcd the government had made It point OF honor
havo exceptional measure, whereas the
opposition had msrepresentod tho Cabinets policy,
threatened officials, dismissed workmcn and abused
tho liberty OF the press and the right public meeting.
TALK COMPROMISE
Tho opposition had obtained $780, 600 votes and tho
government $500. .o0o This almost equal division
showed II would be better seek somc common link
10 bind the parties together than party should
menace peace the constitution. Ho said in conciu-
sion :-"Franco wishes for q government OF order,
peace and stability undor tho protection Of the Mar
shal whom the whole country asks TO stay without
and will remain"
NJ Foartou was warmly applaudcd and congratulated
by members OF the Right
VIOLENT SCENE.
N. Julos Ferry replied No treated with scorn N.
Fourous assertions to tho pressure exercised BY
the republicans the cioctors Tho success Of the
clericalsts would lead to alliance between Germany
and Italy against France for which tho way was al
roady paved
This assertion caused violent sccne.
Tho Duke Decaxes declared II untrue.
N. Paris told NJ. Ferry to go and SPEAK in the
Reichstag
IxYnRYRnExcr WITH ruE KLEcrons.
n Ferry, rcsumiug. rccapi,ula,ed instances or the
governments illegal action, aud accused
ing caused President MacMshon to use facsious Ian
guaaa
On rsmonssrance OF President Grevy against the use
OF this language, N. Forry substituted tho epthes
"unconstitutional" for 'factious"
THE oovxRxxsxr WARNED.
He proceeded, declaring that another dissolution
would DO . coup d'stdt Of hypocrisy aud hazardous
experiment TO which France would not submit, and
concluded with the following ords:"You must take
carol Democracy has some blood In i.s veins PuD
lilo poaco and The country itself arc at stake"
AN EXCITING scKxH
Whom the speaker took his seat there was pro-
longed cheering from the benches OF tho Left The
latter part OF speech was delivered amid scene
Right and applause from tho Left The remainder Of
tho sitting spent In personal alterations during
which violent language was exchanged.
THE wAvxRNo SENATORS.
The econstitutionast Senators, on whose action tho