The New York herald., 1877-09-07

@ What was the motive Of tho men who ~wers in
tho comblnatlons A. 70 see that tho other side did
q Wha. oIlces were Being voted for at that elec.
tong A. don't rccol'ect, sir; 1859 eighteen years
ago have no recollection OF any county officer beng
elected at that time or moi.
q DO understand you to say that this combination
was made to appoint inspectors win view OF inter-
lerirg With the elcctions2 A. On no, sir; but with
the view that We had justice done our side OF the
question.
O. Was 1t the understanding Of the Board OF super
visors or those OF you IN that combination that the
inspectors so appointed should do their dntv or should
brig in returns one way or the others \. they
should be our friends; they should that our mea
were allowed TO vote, and soc that every was done
iasriy. so lar Us We were concerned.
q Were there any instructions gwen 20 the inspec.
tors TO manipulate tho returns IN that yearf A.
think not sir, that year
o AS far as you knows A. As tar as know
Mr. voorhees,, you say, went out oi oihce on the
LIST OF January oil that yearY A. Yes, sir.
O. Was shers subsequent TO his going OUT Of Office,
any similar arrangement made with any other rspub-
lican' A. That is the only arrangement know of |;
the next year tho Legislature passed law requiring
seven votes instead OF have the inspectors OF
election, aud wo could not do II the next year; hac
q Alter that act Of the Legislature do you know Of
any such means beng used to get vote Tor ma
jorityy A. ! have NO recollection ol IL; think tho
subsequent year anothcr law was passed.
Y. Inls is all IN this connections A. THIS 10 oil
know IN this connection IN This matter
q (By Mr. CowingI-I understand that Voorhees, was
the only republican that the supervisors lhoso years
able 10 lcachs Yes, SIR; as Tar AS | can rcco.
iec With reference to the appointment o inspectors of
election; we were speaking Of mat ono suoJect-in
spectors OF eiection-uId not oi general subjects
BY Nj. Colo-Do you know vi any member o. the
Board OF Supervisors OF either political party who
were reached ior any other purpose by the use oi
money except such US you havo tcsllch to? A. /
have recollection OF any other dou't know any
other; want 10 say here Mr. Counsellor aud gentle
men OF the ccmmlt,ee, had no idea o. wDal would
De examined upon, aud this Is my impression at the
moment; possibly after looking over the books may
be more elaborate aud may desire To change tnin.s,
but not much, however; what givo YOU now gwen
without reflection anu therefore only sve you what
floats through my mind alter sevon or ten years;
,na, time nave been through almost every thing ex.
cept death, and | havo been amos. through death H.
self
gyD OF TIE OLD SUPERVISOR RING
q. Passing Tor the moment from matters connected
with tho Old board Of Supervisors ana conin. down
Supervisors IN 1870, understand that the old
Superv Ring destroyed by the passage oil AN
act OF Legislator abolisning the Board. A. We
quarreed among ourselves ana then We abolished The
Board.
T. VINO Quarrelled among themselves? A. Fox aud
Hases and myself
complained that had too mucn power and they
wantod to take It away from mo; was not inclined
Q. state what the exact nature OF that complaint
was-wnat powers A. AN power power IL tho
Board of Supervisors; they SAID that controlled
everythipg had good deal to say about matters OF
election ut Inat time the hight calne up winch Is called
the young democracy night OF 1870 With Fox and Hayes
IN consequence ol thai quarrel of these distin
guishcu gentlemen were Oh one side aud was Tho
other.
q understand you to say that a law was passed
aboishing the Board OF Supervisory A. That was the
reason; yes, sir.
q Was that the reason that was assigned during the
debates OF tho Legislature at the time the bill
passed? A. rather think not, although am nos
certain
q How did you make tina. reason force itself upon
the legislative body? A. don't know that maze It
force itscf upon tho legislative body made INC re-
suit.
O. How did YOU &c, that bill passau? A. I was
chairman OF the committee that nad the bill charge
and The republicans were ANXIOUS TO pass IT. intro.
duced the law, and II MAS passed by both houses on
the same day.
q. Was any money passed? A. Not at that time ;
that Of the things all sides we're wiling to
pass--rammany, young democracy aud republican; /;
the republicans tried TO do IT Ia the early part uf the
session, anu would not allow u; had The biil IN the
committee aud held 1t there.
q DID that Old Supervisors Ring, or combination,
have called IT, read 10 tho iorlrutou OF Other
ring which IS popularity called the Tweed RingS
AIR. Tweed-rnat - u new name for IT,
Mr.. C0le--lt is commonly called the Tweed Ring
Mr.. Twced-lt Is called that within tho last six
months TANK not, SIR.
OF Audit bill had no connection with the OLD Supervs-
orsf A. None whatever.
O. Please state 10 The committee how the Ring,
which for convenience sake viii call the Tweed Ring
was nrsl iormedY 4. WHAT you now call the Tweed
Ring was formed during tho administration OF Mayor
Hoffman,; during his administration tho street Com
missioner was Mr.. Cornell; wus Deputy street Com
missioner and Mr.. Brennan was theu Com ptroIer; we
used take dinners this building and pay the
jantor much month Tor II; for throe years
that was simply social mcetiDg we got II up Tor
ct, PURPOSES and finally 1t formed itself INTO point.
cal organization lor political purposes entirely.
LUNCH CLUB
Q Composed simply o. you turoe men?
A. Four men; the Mayor was there; that was for
politics entirely, and nothing Was sad ABOUT money
alter a while COrnels term of onicc expired, the
Mayors term oil Office expired ana the Comptroller s
term OF office expred WAS about tue only lett OF
the original organzatioa then came ia new Mayor
! forget wbO succeeded Honman--Hall l guess
though | would not say; Mr. Connolly succeeded
Brennan and Mr. Mclean succeeded Mr. Cornell; wo
used " meet every day, und once ia u while Peter b.
Swceny would dine there: then was elected to tho
not do NO lherp ihou
paying for NJ money had 10 be paid Tor the passage OF
bills up there; that was. the way the Ring nrst
organized-to raise money for the passage of bills to
protect ourselves IN tnis city, 90 not Know ether
made M yscli understood or not now; said Brennan
hoffman, Cornell and myself used to dine together,
but only met Tor the purpose OF dining there and
talkins political matters; money was discussed
there and wish that stnctiy understood.
Mr Cole hold IN my hand certificate from an
eminent physician stating that Mr.. Townsend Is not
sufficiently recovered 10 warrant his deraking
fatisuUg character, aud indeed ~ Is against is
advice he Is here ut all to-day therefore
courtesy him suggest that the n!ttee ami
adjourn until sOmc day which shall be named by tue
committee. / think, iu view VI The iact that Mr..
Tweed Is now about to INFORM himself very
intricate matters covering several years may be we'll
to adjourn 10 some day IN the middle Of next week
next tuesday or Wednesday, Tor instance, with tue
approval oil the committee
Tho committee adjourned to next Wednesday, at one
O'Clock A; the close OF the Investigator Mr.. Tweed
was ut once taken back to tho carriage where, not.
withsianding The peJtinS rain, crowd OF some two
hundr, d people were wailing to eaten GLIMPSE Oi
him. as he entered tho carriage ana driven away
a hearty cheer from the crowd followed him.
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