The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-09-30

dealings with city officials that makes you think
their their bills were not justP A;-Durng the years
Of bills that tho county would not pay. He
brought thcm up TO Albany and tried TO get
ree wc oud m not pn hsm TO TO
divide them and put in what we could. but he
would not pay the amount necessary to secure
thoir insertion. was blamed great deal for
not putting those bills in and on TINT was the
original foundation Of the Young Democracy.
Mr.. Jones was the original flnancier OF tho
Q.-Then ,hoy were not bona ldo bills1 Al
Know they We're not; do not know about this
GER Of n, city department called on Mr..
Jones with reauisti2n for stationery, he
jewelry. ,bridlcs. .ucrockery. harness. trunks.
or anything. Three or four doors be-
and fancy goods STORE p'Gd and aNybodS he knew
was worth while TO he would take them in there
and make, them large presents. 0nee, case par
Police Commissioner from tho Ninth Ward-his
brother keeps store on Maiden lane on the
trunks. and such things Ali Cholweil was
the name. He was the Police Commiss sioner and
hi, brother kept tho store, George, Ring Chol;;
often take us into that store and buy us any
thing we wanted. fancy Russia leather goods
and such. things. don't say Cholwell had any
thing 10 do with tho Ring. but Jones used to 30
there to get tho things for his presents to peo-
robes for scehs and everything Jones used TO
furnish. can't name anything man could
require require that he would not furnish II we
Q.-And they were not paid for A.-They
yers not paid for sy US 81 tbs & city Paid for them
other names AMI paid Fine pictures and
there's no end to the things he used to supply.
Q.-pp you rccolrct anybody except yourself
who obtained articles from Jones d Co. 70 be
paid for hy the city rs stationery Al don't
know they were 10 be paid ior rs stationery eA-
actly.
DIcK coNSoLLYs HAND IN.
Dwell in any honest seeming guise. tell us
the names Of those YOU can remember who
received them? A.-Wcll Mr.. Connolly. and
tafter moments renectionl l guess pretty
much everybody who went thore with rcqusi-
| ton or to give him an order For instance. nn
| Official would go there with an order. and he
| would say, Don't you want this. or that. or tho
other to make the bill as large as possible. and
| he would make him "a present. either from an
other store or of the well-flled shelves OF his
| own store Whether he could get the reuus-
| ton enlarged or not. he always used to make
presents Of more or less.
| Q..And enlarge the reluisitions in that way
| A-Or else he would not furnish the same
| amounts OF materials on the rcquisition. I
| think Mr.. Swceny received things from Jones
Q.-Please think this matter over and tell us
| all you can who received presents from Jones
| * Co. A.-Wen. | would not state anything
positively on that subject. because mems names
! are connected in my mind with SO many differ
| ent things that might connect them wrongly
o.-Do You know any case except yours Of
| persons receiving presents from these parties
| Al know Connolly did. and | know Mr..
| Swcany did. and | know pretty much all tho
beads OF the bureaus in my department did;
M ApS Sod Gi no Sgd b SFs snd Fa Ran 10
| everybody did. BY everybody mean all who
had the power to furnish those parties with
| rcduisitions for stationery Were furnished with
| presents OF things all the way up from pock et
| knives worth five or six dollars each TO costly
| pictures for their houses.
O.-Have you any idea how Jones h Co COW
cred these expenditures for presents IN their
ting in large amounts where they furnished
q. CRcndinel-". Fifteen reams OF ofIlclal note
| lightning c:.lculatorl-Fourteen dollars ream.
Q.-ls It your idea That in making such an
put in IN Smc q t6oss things inrnished as pres.
| ents. ui der tho name official note paper ??
A.-They enlarged the quantity and also the
Q.-They enla .ged the price in some cases
and the quantities in others. did they9 Al
Q.-Thcy not only arranged to give flfteen, per
cent. on the face Of their bills, but were abso.
luteiy false in amounts. quantities and prices
,o.-icu know this WAS done' Ayes; Mr.
Jones told me 80 himself.
Jones Co. for 1868, 1869 and 1870? A.-LarGe
percentages We're paid on all, besides furnish,
they supplied everything. books. novels. whole
Q.-For private use? Ayes. sir
O.-W. G. Rogers 4 Co. who were they? A.
/ always supposed Jones was the company
Jones, who was, nephew OF Rogers. whose
charge OF the business. They are tho sam,
firm as Jones & Coz practicaly-one firm wa:
Q"They have brought two suits in the ag
eregate for s4ls s,522.72. The first of these suit
Is Tor s323.6O9.42. for stationery furnished Il
the various city and county departments from
June. 1869. TO May l. 1870; and the second on
is for stationery furnished 70 the county be
tween 6s and 20. for s9i9l330., The com
plants in these two actions alicge that the firm
and, Edmond Jones and ]. Jarvis Jonesf A.
Q-Now. with reference TO wm. C. Rogers 4
Co.? 4. Vromptly- remark | made
about the other firm applies 10 them. They
were the same parties.
now JONES LOST FAT THING.
Dwell. these operations went on betweer
them and city. and county Officials from 1866
new eha4er Then Mr. Jones' wns Ser
active adherent Of the Young Democracy. th'
| opponents of the parties in power. and. as mat
ter OF course. he had then no more bills. or any
Q..,You did not give him any more to do
A.-No; we didn't give him anything to do.
printas. ' saddfs % and ID" bri%es AThsi ssnds'
his friendly relations. know. with me. and
guess with ali the rest. The two firms were tn,
same in everything and what said OF one
Q-Who else that you can namo. besides
yourself. knew about this agreement with Ros
ers a. Co. and Jones \ Go. co9ncerning, tho per
| ''lhtEtH Al tlilnh hlT. hpbhWuIu, WHO u
now in the hands Of the prosecution for tn
State. md Mr.. King know did.
| Q,-R"curring 10 the mntter OF the persons
who accepted presents. ! wish you would thinl
the matter over and tell us the names Of partie
who you think would be good Witnesses in thes
matters, simply those who would be valuable
witnesses. A.-Take any member ofthc Board
, of Aldermen or Assistant Aldermen in thC.s
years. Any Information | can give. will gh
Willingly
Q.-Now the Tenth National Bank has sui
pending against the city Tor t95O.OOO tor none
loaned To the city Do you know anything ahou
that A.-Nothing. except what Mr.. Ingcrso
and Mr.. Palmer tod m"
Q.-Wcll, tell rs whnt YOU know about II ? A.
H. told me they borrowed II large amount fron
the Tenth National Bank. | understood irol
Mr.. lngersQll az the time that he borrowed it OF
his own individual responsibility. He told IN
, so. and Mr. Walter b. Palmer. then cashier an
aftcrward President. told me he intended {
! commence suit against IngersOll for the balanc
| unpaid of the amount Tho money was Dor
rowed by depositng in the bank as collateral
bills against tho Court House approved 10y III
! Commissioners, on which. when the none
! was transferred by the Comptroller 10 the Com
mssioncrs. tho bank could pay itself 100000
, of the amount borrowed. | aiterward under
stood. was paid in that way. Tho money wa
transferred from one Of the other banks to th
; Tenth National. and it was paid that sum an
| surrendered some OF their collatcrals.
J.-WDrp those bills uuurONpl by the Com