The New York herald., 1877-10-12
Tweed Dissects it Before the
Aldermanic Committee.
HIS SURPRISE At ITS PUBLICATION.
Each Transaction Cited and
Cursorily Reviewed.
REPLIES TO DENIALS.

The Aldermenic Chamber was about haif nlled a.
eleven O'Clock yesterday morning on tho occasion OF
the continued examination OF Tweed before Messrs.
Lsw,s Slevip and Cowing II - evident that the IN
terest the public fast dying out In the history OF
the EEK Boss /" terrible crimes which be now un
bushingly narraes before this committed Tho exclu-
sivs copy OF the celebrated confession, which The
HERALD furnished to It's readers on Wednesday las:,
succ,nctly related all that Tweed supposed 10 know
relative the Ring Frauds SO that the public cannot
expect to hear any further startling disclosures from
this quarter. Tho proceedings of yesterday were
therefore somewhat tame and embarrassing.
THE PROCEEDINGS
The proceedings we're begun by Alderman Shells.
who rose with n copy OF Wednesdays HERALD In his
hard and considerable excitement in his manner, and
addressing the chair, said he found his In Alr
Twsed's confession OF those VINO had received
checks from the ex- Boss. He desired 10 be 'sworn
under oaIh," that he might testify concerning the
matter justice himself and tor the benefit OF the
public" Mr.. Shells admitted that he had received
the money STD had the checks In his possession
but the money, hs said had been honestly returned
with interest," and the transactions were in every re-
spscs strictly legitimate.
Mr. Tweed interrupted the Alderman 70 say that he
thought the latter would be entirely exonerated by
statement which he had prepared and would read.
Mr. Shells said he thought tho public might fancy
that Mr. Tweed would desire conceal any fraudulent
Transactions which might havo occurred between
them, and therefore he desired to sworn himself.
TwEED's sTATEMEST
Mr.. Tweed then read the following statement
GExrLEMxx-scveral days since stated to you that
woud place III your hands at the close OF this inves
tgaton the statement which through my counsel
placed IN the hands Of the Attorney General some
stated that upon you would place the responsibility
OF the use which should be made OF u. ! was well
aware when l made this statement that many
persons were mentioned in that statement IN
connection with moneys which passed through
my hands who were gutess OF any offence whatever,
and were in way interested with me In any frauds.
supposed, oil course that you would place such mat
ters the hands of tho Corporation Counsel, and
would be examined perhap: by HIM as 10 which OF
such checks were gwen tor good and which tor bad
purposes That the course whicb, TO a limited
extent. was adopted with me by the Attorney Gen
era, who sent MT. Peckham TO me to examine me
upon that polEt Tho arguments on which the state
ment made and handed TO the Attorney General
are best given In his own language as appears by Inc
~ Albany May 1877, and here produced from the
Nxw YORK HERALD Of May 2, and is as tollows:-
O. In what manner do hola that paper-whether un
Mr. that there Be copy q il made nor
svidsnee Furnished wa. Of value ra.''' ''''' A''
All irtentons upon my part yours, however,
have been frustrated by The publication IN yesterday
HERALD, aud tho parties VINO been responsible
for furnishing this information 10 the HERALD must
be responsible tor the injury they have brought 10
had In my possession the statement which was sub
mitted by my counsel TO the Attorney General the
l7th o April last and returned by him 70 my coan-
sci on the 18th OF June, ever since that
tme and have also had since the stale
ment was drawn all tho original memoranda
irLm which the statement itseli was prepared.
Part OF tno statement has been under lock and
key Ludlow street and tho other ut my wie's
dcnce IN Greenwich. Outside Of my counsePs denial
OF this connection with The publication know posi-
lively that he was not Interested IN H. IL vas the ad
vice o my counsel as we'll as my own judgment that
should onor my statement until the close OF this
Investigation, SO that might prevent persons VINO,
not knowing what had in proof IRON denying my
assertions, and regret that the publication was made
~ this time.
OF course Il is Impossible for me TO remedy all the
injury which has been occasioned by this ACT, which
can only be attributed TO the Attorney General or
some person to whom he intrusted my statement.
regret that innocent persons have been obliged TO
suffer IN this way. Permit me ut this moment TO rec
THY as far rs can the injury which has been done;
but before dong so let me say That do not pretend,
but on the contrary deny, that the names Of all or
even majority OF the persons mentioned ia that list
were engaged IN any fraudulent Practices whatever
Mr. Shells then presented the checks with which
be had repaid Ar. Tweed, and the latter certified
their authenticity and exoncratcd Mr. Shells.
GOING OVER THE LIST.
Mr.. Tweed-Here l take up the HERALD to-day
which has batch OF dcnials The first is from
Charles Z. Loew. l borrowed the money from Mr.
Locw the date mentioned and did return IT. The
next is from Mr.. Murphy. He states that The money
received was for the burial OF man who was killed
on election day. presume II is SO. Mr. Calvin mas
q word to say. Mr.. Calvin is correct Mr.. Richard
him. .Only this aud nothing more;' that $500 was
acontributIon. John Cox Is right. AS 10 Harry How
ard know his statement 10 be right. He was always
IN arrears always borrowing money, which he always
paid again. Ii thcro ever was man who wanted to
pay up 20 the las. = WAS Harry Howard a. As 70 Mayor
cheek, but have no recollection OF ". William D.
Mnrphy says tnat all the money he received was IN
GRATIS That Is not So Those are all the denials
see here
Mr. Shells trising and breaking in)-I win further
state, sir, that never received dollar my lie
for any fraudulent purpose whatever gentle
man.
Mr. Tweed frcsumIng)-That paper (ne statement)
was written by my counsel, and l don't know that
ever hau II IN my hands. | certainly heard II read.
There may be errors IN &c; there certainty with
regard to Mayor Banks have no recollection Of hay
ing any dealings with him.
l Will commence with tho checks Thomas
Conan, October 80 1858, $3.50, Endorsed by Thomas
Conan. | think that was a check paid for election
expenses | think all those cnecks were political
checks, except one-Jaauary 10, lS5lwhich was bor-
rowed money
James Hayes; never had any dealings except tho
bridge matter with James Hayes some OF those arc
pohiical checks some divdenas, Supervisors money
and some borrowed money very htt!e think
Gross; Is election expenses
Loew was borrowed money, which returned
Garvey; II amt necessary 10 say anything about
him, suppose
Henry smith; was borrowed money and IN relation
TO supervisors matters.
NOT iHE HENRY SMITH MEANT
Now, In regard 10 Henry smith, nave received
groat many ieltors asking whether meant Henry
smith OF Albany. | don't know Henry smith OF AL
baby l meant Henry smith who was Police Com
missioner, and thought everybody IN New YORK
derstood IL; but ind some OF Sir. Smth's good
friends and some OF his bad friends In Albany are
anx ious 10 know about IT,
William Walsh my payroll al the rate OF
%, 500 year Tor Two or three years
r. A. Woodward; dont know what the7 were for,
Borrowed money probably, some Of IL.
Cox; Is explained.
Howard; rs explained.
Woodruff; tuink he was sick; his friends helped
him thai year and helped him among the rest
Taylor guess was paying for printing biL
Purser; l don't know what that could have been
for.
Walter Roche; Supervisors election expenses
Richard shay; was borrowed money.
sheridan Snook; that was borrowed money, l
know
J. Mcbride Davidson; guess every ono OF these
were borrowed money
e. Campbell: don't know who ho rs.
A. wiimour; borrowed money, not returned
Eugene Durnin; gave MIN mouey TO pay somo
bills Tor me-
J. r. Valentine; election expenses
NJ e Murphy; was borrowed monoy.
jacobs: WAS borrowed money.