The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-09-16
Forty Thousand Dollar. Each.

In reply TO the question, what Hastings do
you mean" the witness said that he meant
Hugh J. Hastings. Of the Commercial Adrer-
tscr. He continued that, after thinking the
matter over. he tTweed) approached Mr..
Woodin. and said TO him, Il hope you
are not going against mo. for IT appears
to be personal fight against me- They
have removed mo from my position rs Deputy
Street Commissioner. ana from the way II is
now being pushed think 1t a personal mems
urc." He said he did not think it was. and so
far as he was concerned he was sure II was not
personal affair. but Senator Norton was
clever gentleman. friend OF his. who
always helped his measures. he in return
helped NOrtons when he could do so. We'll.
! said. ! would rather lose my life than this
fight You nrc worry much in earnest 20
feel so deeply about IT, he said. Yes. said.
was always in earnest about anything / un-
personal phnsr IL had assumed. there was
scarcely ANYTHING | would not % TO prevent
myself being h"atcn. We talked the thing over
and he said il should be worth u good deal to
mo. ! said II would, aud would he willing to
pay for H. don't know which " us it was that
made the first mention Of money eNnctly. bnt
that was the way II tsnc M. He said ne would
Hastings. telling them Just what had been said
and they earh said, " think you can get the old
mna; stick 20 him. The next dny went at
would come 70 my room. Then frlt sure OF
him. talked to Mr.. Winsluw. Mr.. Wood. and
Ol'f-. lti lifN ilfN-slit inc llDhtN NuOlll iW
rcsted the caucus matter to them. | urged
upon them that il would be the safest way to
| shield thom from any possible suspicion II any
thini- was oyer sud oi mon"S1n connection
with the matter said Ia them. In this way
nobody VIII know ANYTHING about it ami If amy
question is ever raised. you can say you were
| governed hytne caucus. iou can get ont Of it
In that way without any trouble, and nothing
| ever he known. Whatever | know | keep TO
mysen ana yng in@sd not not lrar rH anynody
/ g., hn ala I 10, W,DIip nj
| when he cnine to my room, he asked me. " VINO
hayc. you got of tn. other l!epubiicans:' said,
| that ,lnn9t snuOn ANYBODY sise name. 10
YOU. told WiLslow about It and he said. You
the h othcrs Mnier and WOOD. .''' did so , and he
| asked what they wcr. % gel. | told him Si0.00l
each and hc said, ." viii ~. with then
| n YOU do with the rest | said well. | am
going g. hand all for tine rest t. Winslow. He
| caurus and resolved to stand by this charter
| a. least 50 they told me. and know besides that
! they did. Tor | took measures 70 keep myself
| pretty well posted on what was going on, We'll.
| when the hill rnne up Tor acdon all the Repub-
| lrans voted for II eXr"pt Mr. Thayer and every
Democrat except Mr.. Gcnet-thirty in favor OF
Q.-Wrre ihoss tie only Senators with whom
you had DEALINGS with reference to that matter.
! A.-\o. sir. paid some of the Democrats by
Q--Whai Democrats and whci places? A
/ Tint / cannotin.l cNa'tly now. The places were
| assigned Ia tn gentlonlen who sent parties
whose names wore put on the pay rolls. and
th"y only came up 10 draw their monoy once a
Q.-f want To- know all the members OF tho
| Senate wnoin Nou approached ontuis bill. whore
| you used any arguments except the legitimate
arguments To- be seen in the hill-proniis.s oi
! money. or pieces. or other Influences As.
| II. Frost. OF the First District. gave places to
| places 10 mis- friends. you understand. appoint
ments., appointed = number OF men for h I'm
did NJ. " RI but draw their pay.
Q.-Was that understood - b., the considera-
| ton which controlled his Noiet Al agreed to
do that and he agreed 10 vote for the bill.
.Q.-Was there an understanding TINT he
should vote iorthat cons idorationy A.-Irlonol
| believe h. would have voted with me If had
| not given MIN That consideration. There We're
! sixty, thinf. .appoiutmcnts for him. Mr. Mi
cha"l Norton agreed q help IN nis bus ness
| matters IN New or1 Ihom9sJ j. ki"ruan some
arrangements wrr" made with hy Nj. Connolly.
| Genet voted against Us. senator Cauldwcll-l
! gave place 90 his partner. Whitney. which WAS
10 be worth not less than s20.U1r yenr, and II il
wa~ worth Jess WAS 10 make il upto hiil 10 that
amount. / gave him place as Deputy Collector
of Asse-srlentS. The fer- wore fifteen thousand
| and some hundreds aEi tine balance | made VI
TO him. Mm. NJ. Graham gave money TO-.
| Q.-How much; Al cannot rccollect. Twas
/ Kept giving llm money all tire time-ilve tan
/ or fifteen thousand dollars every few days. He
was always needing help IN has business OF
Odd you have any understanding with him
! that You would llNc him money for voting for
| this hllt A.-lre. and dli ,;iyc It 10 him
/ W.n-low A. ! suid. gay" money Ia. Aul.u~tu-
! Elwooi think gave money ~. w. n. 5rnni
Wool.n-in the matter If Wins .ow. through Mr..
! MInsiow, as stated before. ! SNOW he got IL,
because subsequently asked him II my mat
! tors with him were all satisfactory. and he SAID
" Yes. Ahrnham b. Harp"rlnE gave money
/ 70. i. l.. Minor money in the sam" way as
Woodin. through Winslow. Geo, Bowen money
hclicve That il all think that r. all | had deal
| inss with In regard 20 this charter