, 1877-10-11

payment should como within the limitation.
flis Court oTcrruled tho objection.
Q.-llow much in the aggregate, Al don't :;
remember. !
V.-tluo thousand dotlaEsl Al presume 50. /
Q.-At how many ttneaa A.~-A good many |
Owns the money ever paid baekt A.-No,
sir.
Q-1yhat entries were nadc Of that money! |
Alt MAS charged up to some representative
account, like profit md 1oxe,
Q.-WM tils prior to July /, 1871 Ayes,
Q.-Dtd sou crcr pay him any money after
Witness was tI then Questioned , about carpsn. pen
him about book Of shipments hs kept. lie
said he kept II for his own purposes.
Q.-What ktnk Of book was tta A.--A
Memorandum book. :,
shortages.
Q.-slortages Of what' Alto didn't say.
Nc talked ahout thc book about tho time TIC
Grand Jury was Investigating the Poor-House
md Insane Asylum. lie didn't saJ that tho
lions. The Qoois bought from Kellogg & Co.
were charged to proat and loss for the reason
That, after pestolat left tue rn, all bis buslNGss
was 20 carried on, he to RI onetlfrd thc
between Kimberly, Pcrloae, and McCaffrey
wlsen they were together. Tho door ~as closed
all tho time.
he remarked that tho county order book drop
pcd on Water street one day, an!l, falling Into
tha gutter, rot Yrt and dirty. Wien Pertotat,
Kimberly. anil Mccalfrcy
WENT fsTO TIE DACK ROOM.
one Of them khnt the door, which he could not
say. McCafFrcy. wna in tho room when witness
left The store. Lie dhl not recollect that, In
transferring tic entries front tic old TO tue ncw
book, the Invoices wcro used, bccau*c some OF
mt frrrr m 1turfrI IN hN unfn$h11{-
giblc. Carpenter had nothing to do with
making nut the Bills for the county, Of tic col
lection Of tls money. 1le worked On salary-
81 o s sa1ary al tl,at sitacsa knew Of. iie l,a no
consultations with pcris,lat aud tho others. a.
far ns witness haa knowledge. Tl!c money was
paid to Carroll before the fire. lie was not n
Commissioner aa tho time.
fcal committed A.--So, sir.
Q.-Do you know that ln was noti A.-No,
.;S S!sS .; .ss e @;: s!s. at ''s' A-rF'n 's' to
V.-Was there any secret abont 1T Al
Oily wbomi A.-By rerio1at. :.
,,2s 2-po Sou ,'ra know what the money was p.id
Q.-Do you rccollcct Of Forsythe & Co. buying
empty barrels Of CARROLL A.-No, sir.
Q.-Darrcls sent to tho Poor-1aouse and emp
ttcl1 A.--S0. sir. ....,.
Q-Dont you rccollect he was at tho timc
Warden Of TIC roor-1lousef A.--Ycs, sir.
Q.-Empty hoxcs1 Ave tuok tticm some
times from our customeEs--not from hItn, that
recollcct. .... -.
Witness ixcd the amount paid Carroll be-
tween $500 and 81. 600
Q.-Dont yuu understand that Pertntat waa
a1that tin,e puyng ssrssmcnts-polltical e1-
p.MSI III. smith, DON'T mean ali ths money. hut
don't ynu recolicct that portion OF It waK paid
for political asscsstncntsi Al don'i.kuow
what It was pail FIR.
3[r. SloTs offered in evidences the report OF
the Joint Comm,ttce on Public Service, Public
| Charities, anu Hospitals, who nude tho Poor
House Investigation, ,uade in 1875, exoncratIng
Kimberly; T. was E s4cneh eh,Iy BY Jpl!nson 3 Car
| and others, which asserted that therc was
| crookcdncss III the matter Of supplies. This
was followed by tle nSt!en @ Of tne Co County
/ adoption Of the majority report
The defense objected, but tho Court let tho
| cvidcnta 70 in.
4. A. spraguo was recalled. Was d member
produced there by Carpenter. / had a copy Of
Il made IN 1ny office. Hook produced md
ldeu,t1etf.] Tho original was left fn the otce
Of the state'a Attorney. Carpenter left tho
Grana.Jury r9om n .r! to est the book with one Of
| ictS ri IN NJ u HfrfynfotIst ~
Mi" Smith contnntlrd Tint Carnentcr.s cvt.
dcncc could not be- Used against himself since It
Waa utgct, nnder drress. und. n,ore than that. hs
,yas sessurof that he woutI he nrntectci. -"
III. Bturrs proposcI to discuss ths question.
Tho f:ourt aail tho facts slould ba obtaincd
gnat.
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