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ment OF these Investigations ! found 1t was
going to extend 50 far, and hearing also that l
would probably he imprisoned. and wishing
ief, and was brought back. q.
@. Didn't you appear before the
before you left:-A. Yes, sir.
@. Were you undergoing examination be-
fore you left?-A. 4! short. informal eXnmina-
o. What was that for?-A. The proposition
was made to me by the committee TINT " !
would furnish the evidence that was valuable
to them in finding out and developing these
matters. thnt then they would use me as n
witness and would no proceeding
If not Of sufficient value they were to return
the testimony to me and act their own pleas
ure.
@. How does 1t come TINT you left while
this was going on "A. ] didt wish TO have
anything To say II ! could avoid 1t. 1 consid-
cred mWsclf the confidential ctc'k Of the SENATE,
and didn't wish to turn Suites informer;
The witness WINS referred to mn entry In tho
books Of the Republican Printing Company
In reference to an erasure which wns aprm:
! rcnt. A magnifying glass was sent for, ana
the interim taken UP with testimony OF little
Interest TO the public.
WHO WAS MERRIAM:
The witness next testified, In regard 10 q
nav certificate for S5.OOO In behalf nf Il. i.
| Merriam that Cnrdozo who held 1t tore 1t up
o. What did you carry 1t to him fer:-A, !
had carried n number Of these certificates In
| which the Governor and others were inter
ested. Don't remember the exact date when
O. Didn't you tell Mr.. Cardozo that you had
come in behalf OF the officers OF the two
houses TO nuke him II present.-A. don't
O. Didn't he ask you who Merriam wns?-
A., Not to my understanding,
O.. Didn't he right then nnd there put tho
certificate down on the tublc md dcnOunce the
whole Of you and require you to cancel the
Council handed tho witness paper, which
appeared to be tho one IN question. as the
witness said quickly, Il take It all back
Q. Isn't that word cancelled in your hand
q. isn,t Joe Woodruff in O II handwrit-
ing?-A. Yes, sir.
counsel directed him to answer questions on
". The paper was put In evidence.
The Legislature, mt the session OF lS,a,7i,
authorized the issue OF certificates OF indeht-
Printing Company, the Central National
Bank and others. The interest Of the wit
ness In the certificates was about ninety
thousand dollars. Treasurer Cardozo refused
the supreme Court, He otfercd Cnriozo TWEEN
Is or twenty-five per cent. TO issue tnemi
which offer was refused: In his transaction
with witness. Cardnzo always Kept naok M mn
| Little. BOnanZn bill. In regard to the over.ls
sue OF certificates, witness said that, during
the wears 1870 to 1874, inclusive, there was M
limit to the Issue, so he could not tell whrth'
or there was an oyer-issue. He used the lni'
tials OF the dpfendent to indicate for whose
benefit the certificate WINS drawn. He did no
put them on the Merriam certificate because
atthat time he acted under orders. Ihese "
regular transactions with Cnrdoza were don
with the knowledge Of Jones, the clerk OF TIT
House. .Cardozo protested against the over
Issue Of certificates. He laid the mattcr be
fore the tienernl Assembly. ms IL shown b!
! tho, Reports and Resolutions for lH74-15,
Redirect examination bv Gen. Conner:
O.. You have stated that you did ~ large IN
| sinesx with the thieves und rouSucs: WIZ
were the parties referred to?-A. The Genera
Assembly md State officials. -,
O.. Who was the most expensive party VIII
whom yon dealt: Who got most OF you
money?-A. They were very. nearly on q par
@, Was Curdozn treasurer then "a. Pnrt U
O. Did YOU find him difficult TO satisfy -
at first ! did not but he was very diflcul
@. Were his services Of high price or OIL
chcnp terms ga, "The percentage J0ne
and I agreed to allow was ten per cent. .Ane
he heard how we Ind to pay the General AZ
scmbly ON the S2SD,OD Job he said lie woui
Witness further restlflcd TINT oil amount
. puid' for the passage OF bills were charged ~
In the accounts to printing; These account
them TO he paid. Witness then stated whn
he bad testified before the Senate cnminitte
lust spring. He did not tell them Of havini
patd money to lardozO. because he did no
wish to criminate himself. He was r, present
cd by counsel before that committee.
Gen. Conner: Was the question objccte'
O. If YOU had been ask cd the question, tn
whole Of II would hnve conleout PA. Yes iI
y Who was you counsel before that com
nittee:- Judge Summed W. Melton. ..
This answer caused ~ general anu audlDl
smile IN court, In which Mr.. Melton tnoy
Cardoao's counselI blushingly took lsIrt. unll
the. smiling courtand smiling sheriff enforce
silence. 49,,
ionccrning the r. T. Merriam pay certin
cate witness sud he thought TINT l%.icutcnnn,
Governor Gleavcs ask cd him to draw 1t. Ther
wore n number Of certificates. amounting !
twenty Thousand dollars. They were TO b
bank and Trust Company By. Hardy Solomon
Cnrdozo, Governor Moses. Lieutennnt-Gorr
nor Gle,ves and Senator Owens were each {
have ono. Cardozo nilsrwnrd proposed to ~ !.
: Cardoz0 said there would be- trouble about
Witness lu,d no interest In this tn,nsactiUi
!, They were all fraudulent ccrtlficitcs. WI
ness k xnn no n 81 su s tl Pcrs"n rs rsf e: Ii = si sribs !
tho ninety thousand dollar matter. Tell VIII
he refused it.-A. 1t wnsn political manoeuvi
OF some Of the leaders, who were under tn
: impression taa lat. Noses RnHS, T"a,e" p 70 DC 1sse' ecu,
paiiy would support him. It was opposed q
that account; II was Que II those mnnOcuvrt
for which Mr.. Chamberlain. was so fanious.
Y. Has CarioZo ever. In any instance, r
ground that they were fraudulent "A. Il
said they were mistakes,
Q. Heknew the mistake s AZ well M you die
"a. Yes. sir. ..
I. age for tho mistakenly. No, sir.
q. On whose order were the legislative &!
penscs certificates dr,Mn?-A. They wei
drawn almost nd libitunl on the order Of pr
gfAfnv MI irnry Rlpys nlnn nf (.ln m ttfrDs IN
OthelA The clerk drew them the presidil
officers signed them.
In rcg,,rd to the nse Of the name l..
Christnp. Ter to indicate f.. l.. tnrdoz0. witne'
n from a stub book ne read many like II
stances. Among these GOVERNOR. j. Moss
=, was NJ. ]. Foreman; senator I. G. Andrew
was {. T: Amdlin., senator \. F; WhittsmnI
was i. F.. Wharton; Senator G. d. Hnyn
was u. {. Highly; Senator l.. Cain was
Crosby: S',nutor Corwin WAS Chrisscn.
q. DO AL those Stnbs represent nindSc-!
I would prefer to say that they'wcre mil
Q. Gnn yon come within twenty or thirt
tllOuse nd dollars OF the amount paid by yO
to CA"dOzo rs mistnkc c. or in my irreruli
way.-:.A. Not without reference TO the book
z. Would IT amount to SD,UO:-A. No, SIR.
JAMES u. WELLS.
This witness was next sworn, and ~testifie
that lie was the present clerk In the trcusur
dcla irment, and Ind brought with him til
JoI.nul and books belonging to the Office.
@. Turn To the receipt o md look ut re
ceil,t No. 2,46i. and tell me what 1t ia. ]
ise receipt for s4,4G for legislative expense
OF 1871.
g. Does that correspond with this bate
Of ccrtiflcatcs.-A. Yes, sir.
q. Dated when "A. February 9Th. 1873.
Q.-Who IN 1t signed by "A. Le(irnnd BEN
dicL. president Of the Republican Irintin
Company.
@. Turn to the ledger which contains til
! amOont of the uDDrODriutlUn for lepisl;ltfy
OK iocnSeS for the rNtru session. How much
credited to the amount Of TINT approprin
tiof3-A. S75,iMN.
q. Whats is the entry on the debit side "a
Q. IL that correct or erroneous? "A IT is
credit to correct an error In posting. II up
pears that the boOkkccpers charged certuil
certi1 Gates to this account when they shouIl
have been charged to the regular session OF Isl
Z. On the debit side of the account Is no
this $4,000 pay certificate included?-.A. 1t !
included liz the payments of February. lS7;
II Is made up on u joint order for S4,2lO and
House order for S2j.
O.. That makes up 81, ASIA. Yes, sir.
q. Without this pay certificate of 100
c0nld the debit and credit side of that nc
count bnlunce?-A. No, sir II that accoun
wee deducted from the debit side, the nccoun
would not balance, because 1t Is included IL
the chtrge.
O. Dies not this $1,000 make the account ex
W:tlf balnncc?-A. Yes, sir! There isno O:he
payments, only the erroneous charge to til
account.
Q. You ray TINT s5,4l7 brings both sides G
tho account down to S15,OOO, and to max u
fbn &c NM tho 81 MN ,ppcf In rp,,ptnd ma