The New York herald., 1877-02-17
ENGLAND AND THE EAST.
The Liberals Arraign the Government,
but Mask Their Future Plans.
THE GoRTsCHAKoFF NOTE.
Each Of the Powers Waiting for the Othen
to Answer 1t.
10y CABLE TO THE HERALD.1

10y CABLE TO THE HERALD.
LONDON Fob. II, 1917
II Is tho opinion OF many prominent persons At 81
Petersburg, VINO agree with Czar that need.
less the fall Of Mdhat racha marks the COM
mencement OF state OF anarchy which will eventu.
ally compel Europe to interfere 1t is said that Gen.
era Ignaton, who has arrived at st Petersburg and
conferred with the Gear and Prince Gortschakof sup
ports this view The idea among the peace party
seems to be that Powers in answering the Russian
circular might enable Russia to withdraw and await
tho result of the Turkish efforts at reform by publicly
recognizing the sacrifices which she has mado ON be.
half OF the Eastern Christians.
THE GoRrscHAKoFY NOTE
1t was stated in Berlin yesterday that negotiations
between the Powers about answering Prince Gorscha.
kofs circular concluded. 1t Is expected that shc
replies will be sent next week. Tho Powers have
agreed that the shall not be IDENTICAL but
similar in sense They will decline 10 participate In
any measures OF coercion against the Porte, and also
decline constituting Russia their mandatory; but some
them appear have intimated their Willingness to
observe benevolent neutrality as long as Russia iulfs
her to pursue selfish ends, TO leave tho
territorial arrangements OF tho Balkan Peninsula un-
changed and tho balance oil power in Europe unim.
paired.
ENGLANDs ANSWER NOTE
In the House of Commons, yesterday afternoon,
Hon. Robert Bourke, Under Secretary for the Foreign
Department, in reply to a question by Sir Charles
Dixie. Bart. (radical member tor Chelsea, said tho
government intends answering Princc Gortschakons
circular but the time Of answering depends upon the
course Of events The effect OF the change OF govern
ment at Constantnople tho result OF tho negota-
tions between the Porte and Serva and Montenegro
must be awaited. 1t also desirable, before express.
ing our views, to know those Of the other Powers
rs TUE TREATY PARIS BISDlNGP
In the House OF Com mons, yesterday afternoon, Ar.
Gladstone asked the governments opinion regarding
treaty engag gements. Mr.. Claiborne Hardy, Secretary
of State War; replied that the government did not
consider itself free from tho obligations of the treaties
OF 1856 and 1871 He could not agree that Turkey be
left in the cod yet sadded with all the obligations OF
those treatieE ''If Turkey is bound by them," he
openly loudly and peremptorily declared, the rest OF
Europe must also be bound by them" 1--WE do not at
present." he said, 'intend to use material cocrcive
against Turkey, draw the sword for her,
HOW FAR ENGLAND BoUSDf
Mr. Gladstone, on questioning the government ABOUT
tho treaties cited the despatch OF Lord Derby 10 Sir
Henry Elliott, dnteu September s, 1876, in which
tho former declared that English sympathy
was completely alienatet from Turkey
by tho atrocities committed, and Her
Maicsty's government evon in the evont Of Rus
sian attack would find practically impossible to pro-
tcct Turkey. War between Russia and Turkey would
thus place England in a humilating position as II
would bring her sympathes into direct opposition Ia
her treaty engagements.
HOW FAR ARE TREATIES BINDING?
Mr. Gladstone argued that Englands treaty engageq
ments did bind her to support Turkey under all
circumstances He particularly urged that the guar
aniceng Powers completely freed from their ob
cations If Turkey, her part, had not fulfilled the
expectations Of reform which she held out at the time
the treaty was signed. He wished to know whether
orod naolv Ives aha
from the obligations which Lord Derby had asserted
were binding upon them in his September despatchf
AnRAlGyrNG THE GLADSTONE ADMINISTRATION.
Mr. Claiborne Hardy, after replying that the govern
ment dia consider themselves free from tho obga-
ons OF troatros of 1856 and 1871 said he was sur
prsed that Mr.. Gladstone had not complained OF
misgovcrnment in Turkey when the Treaty OF
PARIS was revised 1871, and he had no right
to say tho present Cabinet ought to fulfill
obligations which his Cabinet neglected in
1871. Mr. Hardy demonstrated that none Of
the contracting Powers bad right under tho treaty
to act without nsulting the Others Ho wanted ia
know whether the conduct OF party to the treaty
toward its swn subjects was sufficient for
GLIDING II from European advantages, and for exclude
me Europe from the advantages OF the treaty. II
this was answered in the affirmative Turkey was cn'
titled to be freed from her engagements. AS to the
question whether England bound under the treaty
10 90 to war for Turkey he would say no. The
basis of the Conference the integrity and indepen-
dcnce of The Ottoman Empire. Having with the
other Powers adhered to principle the Confer
encc England bound to support It In the sense In
which these words employed. 1t would be an
entirely unjustGabc to draw the sword to
strain Turkey. II ought TO make blush with shame,
for we should thereby violate promises and treaties.
| Mr. Hardy refused to enter into any engagements
relative to the future. He hoped that the moral
pressure of England and the other Powers would not
be Without result. England not obliged to mako
war, but she was obliged to MAINTAIN treaties. sos
| An animated debate followed
| THE LIBERALS DECLINE THEIR PLANS
Mr. Chaplin, conservative, declared that Mr.. Glad
stone as an honorable man should withdraw his
charges against the test their truth by
a definite motion.
Mr. Gladstone complained bitterly OF having for the
first time in his iic been accused dsnclnation to
meet his opponents fairly, but he declined to reveal
| his plans
Sir Stafford Northcotc, Chancellor of the Exchequer,
urged that the opposition were bound either to chal
lcnpc tho governments conduct or admit that their
| charges had been made IN ignorance
The Marquis OF Harrington, without absolutely prom
isng TO introduce such notion would not admit that
| the liberal accusations mado under false i'm :.
preston II they rcirancd from challenging the gov
crnmcns policy because that policy had UNDER
gone a change.
Tho debate the subject adjourned until
Friday next QteA41
| THE RouMASIAS RUMoRs DENIED 5000
1t is stated, by telegraph from Bucharest on good
authority, that the recent reports declaring that the
Roumanan Ministry is divided into two parties, one
iavoring active operation with Russia in the event
of war and the other advocating tho definition Of a
neutral field for bcligcronts, absolutely
false. The entire Ministry has taken steps to obtain
moro ciilcacous sanction OF Roumanias neutrality.
and accord with the country has opposed all idea OF
any combinations likely TO Affect existing trca-
tics and the collective guarantee OF the Powers
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