New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1877-09-26
GRANT HAYES AND SUMNER.
WHY MIR. MOTLEY WAS REMOVED.

| uoTIEY's DISMISSAL -. MR.. SUMNER NOT
TRUTHFUL MAS "--MR. CURTIS AMAZED AT THE
! sENAToR's "CLE.S DOCKET"
Extracts rom conrrsaion oeie,sn ne r. President ana
'-~ Correspondent Of The Herald IN EdhoWgN)
al shall stay in Europe a year or more; 1
have special reasons for doing am privaS ~
now want nothing whatever To- DO wh ~ noev ali
the support could because the object aiineu AZ u
noble one, and hope be will succeed that ba course
But. General many hepuDic"HS i'"' UNIV
Xver fear ihave always OF late years. had an abid-
ing faith I'm OF the Republican paIS as eo
election not so much because II is always inc STRONGEST
with the people, because always Just at tue Esl mo
n"nt fne Democrats do some foolish thing and give the
victory the Republicans Now marx my NoIus, We
will have Republican President Ill loso, because tne
Den cracy cannot resist ITS general disposition 10 NICK
over tine milk pail after it is filed told judge NlDlack
OF Indiana just before the last election ana ne sn
ncIy admitted the truth Of what said"
What is your object in staying away from nome so
well in the first place. when went out OF office was
worn down. NOW have thoroughiy Lecuperatedi nm ~
like TO all Europe But propose to stay away tl
alter the exciting scenes that VIII surrodha 'me yes,
home would be charged with having maud III every
kud Of political nanGLvrlng whether tu OF UI 1
settles down can say for one hing however, tnat IL
were at | should exert my Influence, as Iar US
could it, i'll aid OF Mr. Hayess plan OF fecOncnia
Mr.. MOTLEY DIsoBEYs INSTRUCTIONS.
az see reference, IN newspaper eulOgY OF Mr.. Mot
lev to your position toward that officer, and the ntnl
ton that your action was one OF the remote causes Vi o
"Yes have read 1t, and it does great injustice
Mr.. Motley certainly very able very honest gen
long before ont that he would nave to co. when
| was making these appointments Mr. sumner came 70
me aud asked me 20 appoint SIR. Motley as Minister 10
the Court OF st. Jamess [ told HIM would. and did
after Mr. Sumner made that violent speeen ABOUT
the Alabama caims, and the British Government was
greatly offended Mr.. Sumner was, at hat ume Chair-
man OF the Committee on Foreign Affairs; .-..,,...
were prepared very carefully and after Gov fsh ana
gone them for the lat time wrote an 40 zen
the su1ec the Alabama claims with the greatest dell
oacy. Mr. Motley instead OF ooe{lng ns AMI t
Vent over 10 the state Department ana told Gov.
Fsh to dismiss Motley at was very angry lhueeu
u nv, Observation-Disclosures Mr. Flsh advised delay because
10 my hst uelel W - - -, attit1e ON tn.
treaty question Wa did not want to stir MIN up again
just tuen We dispatched note OF severe cehsue 70
motley at once aud ordered him to abstain rom any
further connection with that question We thereupoh
commenced negotiations with me B,ltlsn Mnis.er ~
Washington aud che result the joint High CODnls-
SION and the Geneva Award. supposed MI. Motiey
would De manly enough 10 resign after thAt snnOi ou ne
kept ON till lac removed. Mr. sumner pfOmlset me
tdt he would vote for the treaty But when II was nrst
before the senate lie did all he could 10 beat IT,
MR.. CURrI5s FAITH IN MR.. SUMNER SHAKEN.
must tell You an incident about Mr. Sumner The
first me [ ever GEORGE William Gurus he called
upon me 10 request behalf Of number Of influential
Kpub leans tue reinstatement or Mr. simmer as Chair
MAI, of tle Committee on Foreign Affairs. tod Lin
Tat II should 20 To the Senate anu Qrtate the or
,,I.izafou oil the committees, would be apt to hear
something about the Fellow VINO made a fortune by
handing ms own business. | SAID / certainly should
suggest the dei TO any part OF the legislative branch
t'aI sboud undertake. 10 construct my Cabinet. !
gave hm distinctly TO understand thal dlI not pro-
p,s 10 interfere ~ tho matter at all, even BY advice
~ oersonal friends among tEe Senator'S. and that l
Thought Mr. sumner had not doie lis duty as chair
man of the committee, Dec1use be had hampered
me business OF the State Department by pigcO-nOng
ir,s Tor months Sir. Gurus said that IL was inposs-
H5 tat his successor would Ind clean docket, and
made special claims for tue execution OF inc work Of the
committee. Knowing a. dld, Tue adrOlt ar uhirhts
uSe among Mr. summers friends, determined 10 test
line matter OF "A clean docket. told Mr. Curtis that
1 lid proposed to prove 10 MN thdt MS Iuenu, hr'
SUMNER ha not tOl MIN TIE facts and that he made
these statements knowing them 10 D iaiseh0odS MI
Gurus amazed M ms 0er put assured him that lie
had 1eeu frequently caught m similar representations
cold Mr. Curtis mat nere were nine oFcleYen treaties De-
the senate from tuestate Department that ad Deeh
t.eie several months, and had Dten III Mr SUMMERS
hands, pat had never been laid before the committee
from the spot Long Branch 10 tue STATE Depart
mon and my own surprise thrre proved To Dc more
treaties than had SAID that had peen ID Mr. sumner
own hands lOr lOhg,r tme l1ah eAieyeu' Inat Nas
tbe clean docket When told Dir. Curtis about IL ana
gave him the record, ne was rather disappointed IL
II was remarkable ltold nm my VuJccl IN having
the record se.rchcd 10 show hiu that Ar sumner
not tuhui man, a. Ctuers had lOuhl Oai Drlore
and had discovered on frequent occasions Inc WORK
OF that committee, wnen Mr. Cameron tooscharge was
i'm most dcpiOble state, due entirely 60 Mr.. Summers
per-stcnt uDstructiyeuess and dllatOrness.
" | had nOtuiDg TO do with his dismissal from tho
Chairmanship OF the Foreign Relations Committee, but
/ gldd When nea.d mat nc was put on because ne
stood in of routine business. ike ordinary
treaties with small countries. may be blamed tor my
opposition 10 Mr. summers lactics, Dut was not Riie'
by reason Of his personal hatred Of myel as
matte affairs. II was sat sight 10 ma Sehue VIII
the large majority Of its members in sympathy with tue
Administration and with its Chairman Of the Foreign
Committee III direct Opposition 10 e foreign policy OF
tue Administration, IN theory and detail. 80 was glad
wncn heard of hs successors Nomination chairman
of the committee. ] snail never cnange my mind as 10
the wisdom OF the policy that brought about the WASH
ugtUn Treaty with Great Britain, no matter now much
lie friends OF Mr. Summer and Mr.. Motley may defend
the indirect damage numbug We never could nave pro-
cured tine agreement OF the Brtsa COmnIsslohers or
people to such a thng."
CIVIL SERVICE REFORM AND THE SOUTH.
General they are running Civil Service reform very
strong Just nowF
have disagreed among themselves ITS practical APP
DicatOn do not attach lnucn Importance 10 that mat
could in practical way. Take SchuZ, iCr instance.
lie making business Of CIVIL Service reform. But lie
is humOug and Mr.. Hayes viii ind him out before long.
good thing but 1t Is nard To apply IN our country
all very well say that tine business or Ofceseek
ng shall be abolished out the Oicesecker cannot easily
abolished, and tue tho theorists quarrel among
Themselves the further practical CYu service reform
seems Ia recedo"
State organizations III the SOuthP
"Ihat tue usual violent effects OF wise govern
men' after OF turmoil like had last Fall For
myself do not care FOR party You eau always depend
upon good Of the people OF tue United States
with strong behind II always and they senti
mental, loyal and brave. They viii elect
high official except upon common sense
basis. For that 1 belieye-the Republican and
Democratic parties OF late being evenly dlYlded-that
tue people VIII be complied 70 vote III large majority
for the Republican candidate no matter who he may be,
drive the thinking Ope from their ranks at the last
moment Tue modern Democracy always does it. Ii has
made me smile frequently as nave Thought OF 1t but
there is some fatality at work the premises"
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