The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-05-01
WHO TOOK TWEED'S MONEY :!
INTERESTING TIES TINONY Ar THE
UOODIN IyVESTfGATfON.
ar. v.,ya, or the stand Ex-senator Ken
,cdv 0urs,ioned- What Mr.. \. u. BARRIER
knows rn,or- 10 the Young Democracy
~ Abraham VAN vcchtcn's Speeches

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nr Committee met in Congress- Hall again TINS
morning. All the members Of the commiuec
were present although II IL nm unu-uh' hou'
for Senators 10 bc found in Albany. senator
woodin WINS present with hi son and counsel
md maintained the dignicd d'mcahor anu III
t.n-. interest which he has exhibited al along.
MIR : II. Mnmgan. President " the National
Trust Cputnny. was the first witness sworn.
a.. testified that he knew ex-senator inslow
anal prt..cnt, I'd that part Of his account with the
,,n,n, dated from June. 1870. He had always
..pt an account there. His private account ~
an individual WAS different from his account
with the Mcr.l ants Bank of Wmertown. De-
ps-it. were made by him rs banker. but for no
ser, large anluint-. hardly more than $4,000
At any one time. His account ~ banker
was closed up when the Merchants Bank
prganizrd. According 60 tho books. his
first private credit after the organiln-
ton OF the bank was for $4,000 June 2.
1870. The sale of % shares of National Trust
Company stock made up this credit lie hhd
owned about 100 shares ~ the sto * originally.
The next credit j. On the lith of june and
amounts TO $40 900 the result of "a loan IA J. +.
wnslow made y, Witness supposed J. L.
Wiuslpw To be Norris Winsow . brother then.
but understands She WIS his wife. The cheek
was endorsed hvJ. T.. Wuslow and deposited To-
thu credit Of y. Win>ow. On The snme day
sinnNO WIS drawn against II, anu on inc ldl
another check wis drawn to the same amount.
Th,re are no other credits to y Niu-luw. Wit
moss did not have with him any accounts Of
Minsow prcyinus 20 This time; Thrr" - small
balance due Wiusluw now. He did not know
any reason why Mr. Mnsluw should have no
goiiatcd the 100000 loan upon }. l. Winslow =
Ex-senator George \. Kennedy Of syracuse
as'hcd UNA, ne WS IN, Sn"a r" 9od mi
Winsluw. He went at some length into the
history Of Legislation during the year 1870.
nj nllAstiN lpIlllt@lrN.
Committee. he said. consisted OF Tour Demo
Gratis and three REPUBLICANS lie wa ono Il the
Most OF the election law o that wear was drawn
hv the witness himself upon consultation with
Republican friends und II form organizations
in New York city. II WIS passed und signed 10y
Gov. Hoffman before the Tweed charter. under
the Republicans. In The eau .us. tilo Ecpuhll-
cans agreed. when TIA" e"i"n law WIS pass a..
10 vote for The charter. In 1871. the audit rau~r
et The to levy was pissed. WITCH CAV me i"ur
heads of departments th'r. tine entire financial
believed the CHARTER hHi many very Niluaulr
clauses in il. The diiii ultv WAS in Il" selection
Of the m'i, To- arry Iroas ~ "a, an Td s not
aior for his yot' on ia" passage Of that CHAR
irr and did uet r in' mp'r amy rirram-
having h,,cu made. lie hal heou iu Tweed 81
toe'n only az committee meetings. aud Il not
s.nai,r- thrro who wrre not also oii the rDm-
mu-' nHtor Woodn had taken -on,' what
wa than uinIu Ito haven very eusig bio ability
in rrsbinn Window was rath Quiet. Tho
Cnn,miii.s. ia Cities met In oil. oi w..,s- par
lr-. IT, did mott rrmrmt't tN.rt' laN" en-
Nplin before HAT committee. except upon bills
T".4iin- ." b j. own district
Upon reference To- the Journal showing the
Vote ule!n the tax levy IF $50. "a WAS shown
im Mr. Violin voted for it. along w.t ioy9cu.
compose, the celebrated five 90 tainted licpuhli-
cans about whom all the charge nov under
cou-idr ration wrr" originally started. Ih'
County Tax Low bill was also voted iqr 10y IN,
sano PERSONS. The witness had voted against
Charles VI. Clan'.y snid tha. he was in Albany
in is6st hut lee never held any "lli,e until 1869
when lac Ma7 appointed .omliAiht Nierk 10y
Tweed, anH suMrintsnden' 81 lnIhbrrssii'es
both Of which IN - h" held until Nj. TNced
sesign,.d. II Lad i.,wn removed icy N,n Mort
H. had known and acted with Tweed for man,
years. lie cam. originally Ia AAahs to do IN,
do. H. kept record of hills introduced
AAI Of thor cOurs. during legislation. lie
b. 1wor. that H. did not Know Il
NJ. MNm"u 81 anv money 70 nn' Nrnni n Tor z
any eNponditlr" 81 money ior ,hc pissage Of
r,,uls. lut il Mas ipr Mr TN.rl- lrwrlry
Tweed Wis appointed Commission. of Publ.
Works within we.A "it'r ih" nill M.s pas n
rrsari H. I ..,.s, matt ~. kSIr. I.,eridsc ker
Mr. TNrrd- books. He had nrNcr boon r.
qneStel hy Mr.. 1weed to solicit members Il
Tho afternoon session ~ the committee wa.
nmiy more th;;n q-ualir, Interesting from tn'
IlIll \ ~ pifNfi .lllA N'ihhlH f..i 900
feu were Wltnt -srr. The memory Of Mr.. Bur
ber proved Go be- very defective wheu'v'r ne
commute attempted To 20 outside of the in
guIry IT'S o. what hr know about ANYTHING an Il
,i~ any other Meni~ 81 th@ Legislature thai
positive with his answers that he neveI
Nn"N ni any money beng pad 'fh"l
'h his n rr,g.al b. 5 anIws see, 'ei
stated iuat Dee needed immunity for some
ulng or ntl.r but he did not know what. az
w. 90 As his illusions To- the swain Of poliirinn'
whl anne here from New ors and lil parts %
tnr State o. Influence members. Wii- rrrriNr'
with laughter hy the committees amt the sp-'ta
l'-. His pnrf,t sIn1 rort and ~" r"ud nes,
Win wni"n h' inrn.i ns,le all 'n"rls To "nir.H
hIr. drfN from Mr.. SrhoOnmak-r. one - N
eoumlf',.r. after tie udinurnurni. 'hc rtwari
NAV y rbcr j. a -hr.Wd man. anl hc has hrcI
tn" i"ih" m"u who employed him. IN b" Wal
r. .Nam Vcrhton managed to get in iitu
spee'l IN almost every question That WIS ashc'
ierst in l,.gl station within the n-t two o, thr1
years. He had often been retained g. i"rwar'
i.r that purpose IN 1910 principally for VA
az" Hallway esslation. lie had t.k,n ~ s,ps
yolr. H. thought he might have had genera
nr-gli2n- y,th m ni Mr Pnd Senator @
director Of the Erie Hallway and h
1i "onv"r>ntiou with him upon the SUBJECT %
Ill., % wod Iii d or w. r w ngl6w d To my GS,
10 hn"wedge Of any money t~ins USED 10 N
iuen ytc upon any ol the NV f1rk ei !,
Tweed. and supposed he might layr ra-hr'
H. m rA,} year H. Impression was tAat 'h'
m.u.s WAS used, If used ~ that Way 1T all, L
luhu"n|e fhe Young Democracy. lie had NJ
r'f.rd ur N. uiorauda ol the different checks
uI. ~ ihrm were for u- high -un, u
finN1nr t1NuOO ltwas worry likoly, hr thought
fiHf h, might hav" aa-hoh .li.rh- f,r Tweed n
1870. hut M" amount ~ money whicn he lur
nl-h"d ~ tnat year he could NOT tDil II" roul
not say that the aag,f, gate amounted tu tluUuU
pr s2luuuu. lie di not know positively tia
Aly of these CHECKS were used for the uuru,s
ofiorwarding New York Legislation. hut be ha
Vice impress ion thar h wis for N purpose OF IN
nl"n'ing the Young D.norrn'v. IN
largest cheek cu-hrd for Tweed wa
o. t'ast not over the amount Of $1,000,
N'ry Itely they were for mn Ia less th.n thai
II di not remember who represented IA
r."th-. II, did not know The men whom Iw'"
nNl alout him. H. never knew the puruos
iOr which the checks We're 10 bee used, and hH
n.F.r nrcu asked in any way 20 help lniurn,
'rN W rk legislation which Wa then p"ni
~ II" hHi mo- conversation with MOodln o
M.n- .N NN A"v YORK matters that winter II
- iNi '"r MS I"1ul services for the Fri
huN.r Vs. Ot Ynr ny. He WINS mover re-
tnuh bog Mr. iVH.l Mr. Goui the Irosi
drnl ~ inc, 4mpHv. rtOnrd mm Tho bin
Wn'li hr f'"a 81 n'iit1 wanted were large
Mr. \. b. hrherie-i 4 t.r hclad lived Il