The Hawaiian gazette., 1877-10-17
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER II. ls7
Horace Greeley and Brigham
Young.
rnE MORMON Leaders VIEWS.

during MT. OIeeiel JOuiheg aS'Oee 'He w.
inent in 1868, he stopped for few days al Salt
Lake City, and while there had interview
with Brigham Young, in which he took occasion
to inquire particularly into the doctrines and |
policy of the Mormon Church. The following is
the full report of the conversation as given by |
Mr. Greeley. We commend it to our readers as
well worth careful reading:
Ny friend DR.. Bernhisel, MIC, took me this |
afternoon, by appointment, 10 meet Brigham |
Young, President Of the Mormon Church, who |
had expressed willingness to receive me at |
p IN. We were very cordially welcomed at the |
door by the President, who led US into The sec
ond-s,ory parlor Of the largest Of bis houses (be
has ihree), where | was introduced 10 Heber Z.
kimbaii Gen. Wells, Gen. Ferguson, Albert |
Darlington, Elias Smith, aud several other lend |
ing men in the church, with two full-grown sons |
of the President After some unmportant con- !
yersation, on general topics, | stated that | had
come 10 quest OF fuller Knowledge respecting the
doctrines and policy of the Mormon Church, and |
would like to ask some questions bearing direct
" on these, if there were no objection. Presi-
dent Young, avowing bis willingness to respond
to all pertinent inquiries, the conversation pro-
ceeded, substantially as follows:
II. Gam to regard Mormonism (so-called)
as a new religion; or as simply new develop
ment of Christianity?
b. we hold that there can be no true
Christian Church without priesthood directly
commissioned by and IN immediate communion
ton with the Son Of God aud Saviour of man
kind. Such church is that of the Latter-Day
Saints called by their enemies Mormons. We
know no other that even pretends 10 nave pre-
sent and direct revelations OF Gods will.
II. G.-rhen l am 10 understand that you re-
gard all other churches protesting to be Chris
tiau, as the church of Rome regards all churches
not in communion with tself-as schsmatic
heretica and out OF the way Of salvation?
b. Yes, substantially.
H. G.-Apart from this in what respect 90
your doctrines differ essentially from those of
orthodox Protestant Characteristic Baptist or
Methodist, for example
b. we hold the doctrines of Christianity
as revealed in the Old and New Testaments, also
in the Book Of Mormon, which teaches the same
cardinal truths, and those only.
II. G.-Do you believe IN the doctrine of the
Trinity?
b. WE do; but not exactly as it is held
by other churches. We believe IN the Father,
Son and the Holy Ghost, as equal, but not iden-
teal, not as one person (belng) We believe in
all the BiLie teaches on this subject
Ii. G.-Do you believe in personal Devil,
distinct, conscious spiritual being, whose nature
and ucts are essentially malignant aud evil ?
b. we do.
H. 6.-Do you hold the doctriue of eternal
B. we do; though perhaps not exactly
as other churches do. We believe it as the
! Bible teaches it.
H. G.-I understand that you regard baptism
by immersion as essential?
| b. Y.-We do.
II. G.-Do you practice infant baptsm2
B. Y.-No.
H. G.-Do you make removal to these valleys
| obligatory on your converts?
b. Y.-lhey would consider themselves great
! ly aggrieved if they we're not invited blther
We hold to such gathering together of Gods
people the Bible foretells and that this is the
place, and now is the time appointed for its con-
summation.
II. G.-The predictions to which you refer
have usually, think, been understood to indi-
cate Jerusalem Cor Judeal as The place of such
gatheringi
b. Yves. for the Jews not for others.
III. G.-What is the position of your church
with respect to slavery?
b. I'VE consider it of Divine institution,
and not to he abolished until the curse prunouuc-
ed on Ham shalt have been removed from his
descendants.
II. Care any slaves now held in this terri.
tory?
b. Y.-There are.
ii. G.-Do your territorial laws uphold sav-
cry?
B. Y.-Those laws are printed, you can read
for yourself. If slaves are brought here by those
who owned them 10 the States. We do not favor
their escape from the service OF those owners
Ii. Gam | to infer that Utah, if admitted
as member of the Federal Union, will be a
slave State?
b. Y.-No; she will be free State Slavery
here wosld prove useless and Improbable. | re-
gard it generally as a curse to the masters. |
myself hire many laborers, and pay them fair
wages could not afford to own them. | can
do better than subject myself TO an obligation to
feed and clothe their families, to provide aud care
for them in sickness and health. Utah is moi
adapted TO slave labor.
Ii. G.-Let me now be enlightened with re-
gard more especially to your church polity
understand that you require each member to pay
over one-tenth OF all be produces or earns to the
church.
B. Y.-That is requirement of our faith
There is no compulsioR as TO the payment. Each
n member acts in the premises according tc
his pleasure, under the dictates of his own con
= science.
. Il. G.-What is done with the proceeds o
9 this tithing?
B. Y.-Part of it is devoted TO building TEN
pies anu OtheF pisces OF worship part 10 help
ing the poor and needy converts on their way Il
this country and the largest portion to the sup
9 port of the poor among the Saints.
Q H. G.-Is none Of it paid to bishops and 9th
9 er digEitaries of the churches?
B. Y.-NOt one penny. No bishop, no elder
no deacon, or other church officer, receives AM
o compensation for his official services. A BISHOP
is often required to put bis hand 10 his own peck
Ell, aud provide therefrom for the poor CT BIZ
9 charge but he never receives anything for hi
Q services.
II, Glow then do your ministers live?
a B. Y.-By the labor Of their own hands lik
. the first apostles. Every bishop, every elder
% may be daily seen at work in the field or TN
shop, like his neighbOrs every minister Of tb
n church has bis proper calling, by which be earn
. the bread OF bis family; he who cannot or vii
Q not do the church's work for nothing is no
= wanted in her service even our lawyers (point
ing to Gen. Ferguson and another present, wh,
are the regular lawyers of the churcb) are pal,
% nothing for their services am the only persoI
y y in the church who has not a regular calling spar
o from the church's service, and l never receives
Q one fsrthing from her treasury if l obtain any
!" thing from her uthing house, / am charged witt
N and Pay Tor 1t, just as any one else would th
9 clerks in the tithing-store are paid ike othe
N rfarks hut M ono il aver maid FIR aav earric