The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-04-06
GRANT INTERVIEWED.

THE Ex-PgEsIDENr GIVES HIS VIEWS OF THE
SOUTHERN QUESTIONABLE FAvoRs HAMPTON
AND NICHOLS AND THE WITHDRAWAL Oh
THE TROOPS.
From the st. Louis Globe Democrat Apri al
Yesterday morning Globe. Democrat reporter called
at the Lndell and up his card to ex-President
Grant, who for few days Is quartered that hotel
Tho amabe underlins who waltzcd up stairs with the
pasteboard returned with tho message that "thc
eral hadn't had his breakfast yet and didn't be
interviewed on an empty stomach He would, how
ever be pleased receive the extractor OF private
opinions little lator--say in an hours time" At ten
the General again made aware that the Western
scribe anxious to commence inquisitorai opera
lions. .Te him to up when this lady goes
down." The lady vanished, and 10! the reporter
in the ex-Presidontia presence and that OF Mrs.
Grant There brief greeting and shaking OF
hands. General Grant doesn't clasp hands with tho
greatest possible fcrvor but It was square shake Tor
all that And no didn't say, EVIL you take scat9"
but sat down by the window and the end Of the note
book drew up chair and opened his interrogatorai
batteries on the section Of national history before
him. "How do you like the return to private life,
General9" 'Very much. After sixteen years OF pub
hc life l feel need OF rest from Official duty
and desire to have a little quiet time, and now
can have TT "But the sixteen years must
have fitted rapidly away; you always
busy time couldn't have dragged. Did tho years or
public service seem long or shorts" swell, sixteen
years is good while. Tho years seemed long Yes,
u seems quite ao. time . since S was citi;
chow IRE you going 10 spend your time now-in
tho Immediate future mean ~ ~ shall spend fsw
here and at Galena and Cleveland and tho East
Then 60 to Europe; travel around. May stay long
two years; may not stay SO long; perhaps only stay
a short time-it depends on the news receive from
tho East--and back To settle down with my
iy." "Where do you expect to locate on your re-
turn?" 81 shall spend good deal, great part OF my
tme at Galena. l want to enjoy myself with my
family at home; may go here and go there, but have
no plans LAID l cannot tell just what shall
do Have no idea .'But when arc you gong TO
write that book those memoirs, that arc being told
or" "What BOOKS thatY' 'swhy, tho papers have il
lections OF the war, the memoirs OF commander gen.
era and President that shall supply the missing links
that wc have had published SO far and The re-
porter going TO rohearse the chapter headings Of
the prophcsicd book when tho General said:--'sOh
enough siready" Plenty as far as number goes; but
questions. A man With your opportunities for knowl-
edge might clear up and elucidatc onco and Tor al
natter perhaps; but assure you haven't had the
least thought about such thing Can't tell what may
20 ID sS for tho can
tell TO that Papers guess al things oc-
casonaliy. You ought TO know more about
"What do you think OF Mr.. Hayes Southern
pocys'' 81 think It is good policy. Lam very
anxious this color line divided that the
ton becomes more ono oil parties and loss Of color
race" Here Mrs. Grant asked-"Divde the color
liner What do you mean '' 'Break up the distnc-
ton Of color, SO that party Is not composed Of all
whites ali coored people. y "Haye whites and col.
ored in cacn party ?" quered tho lady. Tho General
assented to tho remark sDo you think Mr.. Hayes
will withdraw the troops from south Carolina and
had Stayed in Office Not take the troops ali away
probably. but relieve them of their present duty,
for neither the Chamberlain nor Packard GOV.
ran lyo ouo tai md wi In nj
military authority, and in this free country, and
long ator quiet has been restored everywhere
elsc the exercise OF military authority 10 civil maels
are gone the Nichols and Hampton governments win
people Of those two States .Wi those two rules DO
recognized, do you supposes" "Not officially and
actually that they viii be accepted by tho people do
expect" what kind OF show will the republicans
regmesp lsit measure 10 withdraw the troopss
Your own experience In this direction was little the
other way, wasn'titY" well yes. IT was rather that
any outragcs calling for It, and, rs you know,
believe In using them with vim AZ sucn times; but
think, with reasonable degree OF moderation, the
Nichols ana Hampton governments ought to get
along without any trouble from the other side"
about all Of tho old war trouble that is lett.
are they notgn Eyes that's about aiL'' .How is it
that Alabama and Georgia and two other South
States get along well. compared to the rcst?"
"rhey are manufacturing. busy states. Northern
spected ana ali goes right Make labor respected in
Louisiana and South Carolina and the political field
will be clear OF trouble" "Speakng OF labor,
tho OF civil service reform seems TO have como
up aean-the attempt to pick out the best men BY
competitive examination. You had all that once IA
your time. didn't your" eyes, but that isn't civil
service reform. II Is only means to place the
appointments in the hanas OF those who wish to
have them made according to their ideas OF fit
ness-to reform this out and the other man into
Office " The principle works well across the water.
Take the English civil service, for example," "But
there they have the system oil reward or by
merit, and each employ6 feels himself part OF the
governmental 0rganIZaton Here II Is only our second
best who enter the public service man who
has tho ability to run railroad or ma,nuiassurns
mode of appointment Is good enough. The people
elect tho Senators and Representatives and they prln
cipally appoint suggest tho appointment OF tho
public think, though, Senator
Representative ought TO hold himself responsible for
tho conduct Of his wards 10 Office :, think
that would be good thing ]" THIS was
about all tho conversation that passed GU
political matters. Tho reporter vcntured TO
inquire how tho oxPresldent. who seemed 10 DO talk
Ing freely enough the present occasion, had ever
acquired the reputation OF man who wos careful OF
hts words, bat before the General could reply Mrs
Grant spoke up:--"Why, mo- Any one who knows
tho General will tell you TINT no is quite the reverse;
that he Is quite FREQ with his friends, remark in
which the General appeared TO fully coincide. Then
tho chat turned on social lilo in tho White House. Mrs
Grant said she had spent very happy eight years
that dwelling The reporter suggested this was
..oh no." said tho lady, "t was owing to tho
pleasant surrounding" "Wlil Mrs Hayes make
social success Of y IN washington ,sn e well sha
cicty life OF the capital; merely to attend parties, balls,
receptions, &c, to which she and her husband
vtcd. That's all ever did. She will make very
much liked respected lady for the White House,
but don't imagine that she will be the nsprer OF
great deal OF society party life. She's plous, mem
Der OF the Methodist Church, strictly brought up"
said U. s. G. There was rap at the door, and tho
amiablc utility entered with lady's card. Tho
porter made his adieux and departed.
PASTOR M,CAEFRAY,S CASE.