The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-11-11

amendment inercred with the right OF the President
the army and was therefore, out OF order
me chairman replied that that was not properly
Mr.: Clymers amendment was adopted. III to liz,
ana ar. Cuibersons amendment, as thus amended,
was adopted by like vote.
Mr. WALKER, (dem.) OF Va. offered an amendment
Mr. me presence Of troops at elections
amendment proposed new legislation.
Inc point OF order was sustained.
. FOSTER RAISES A HORNETS NEST.
DIT FOSTER recurring 10 Mr. Atkins remarks on
tho Adutant Generals communication, characterized
them AS an Unfair attack The General OF the Army,
when before The committee had not pretended to give
tho actual force Of the army had given the opinion
that there were not 20 600 the army, and the
AoJuthht Gonerai 'had concurred with him. Hc had
not understood them say that there author
Nv Tor recruiting, but ony that there was no money
Sir. CLYMKR--Ir they had no money how did they
| nave recruilingy
Mr.. FosrkR-How do they run tho army itself with
| out money!.
| Mr. CLYmER-If the President had called Congress
together they would have had The money.
Mr.. BLAcKnuRs, (den.) OF Ky. IN reply 10 Mr..
Fosierl-rhat Is matter Tor furthor explanation.
Mr. FosrER-lt has run, has II not?
Mr. BLAcKnuGS-we shall show how IL has run
without law.
Mr.. FosrKn-we will bo glad TO have you show IT,
Mr.. BLAcKBrRS-we viii.
DO sick OF. TOO.
Mr. BLAcKnunS-whcn the facts understood
the honest part oil the country will be SICK.
Mr.. ATKINS rcpcu to Mr Foster, deuyIng that he
showed any temper or did any injustice 10 the Gcno
rnl or Adiuiant General
Mr. Cox, (rcp OF Oblo remarked that II the House
some years ago had adopted the proposition OF Mr..
Pendcton o. ohio for admission 10 the hoor Of The
heads OF departments to give information the House
world OF trouble would have been saved.
-, NIX. :. cox EXPLAINS
chnr objected to the plan OF his namesake from Ohio
OF bringing the Cabinet into the Hou . order to
give Information. iic objected to TITS Tor
taken Tor Mr. Cox of somewhere esa
lie saw that he lMr cos Of y. " haa been VI.
tupcratcd IN Cihcinnati paper Tor making a speech
which Mr. Cox, OF ONO mad made, ana The New York
Errnng Post had ntiribued all his r.enn's upon
uctancc IN letting any Of hts trends remarks 20 out
10 the world except whom IN accord with his own.
This matter OF letting tho Cabinet tho
House could only be done under the Engi sh system.
II Secretary Sherman should present himself to-
morrow TO interpret his views on the finances the
House would vote him down, ana yet tho Secretary
would not resign. Whcncverth tho Cabinet came In il
brought It's patronage with IL, and enough influence
was brought TO bear upon members now without nav
ing the personal presence OF the Cabinet
Mr.. HEWITT (dcn.) or n. y, s8id that no did OF
find lauit with tho President Tor keeping up tho army
but II II had dissolved through desertion and other
causes tho President would have had right adj
man 10 II. The telegram read to-day from the Ad-
jutant General showed that 800 mon had been re-
cruitcd during week. The Law mad been clearly VIC
lated and i 1t had been done by tho Secretary OF War
no was impcacsablc Tor expending the money without
warrant OF law lilo did not believe that tho Secretary
had givcn authority Ter such recruiting. In tho face
OF the distinct declaration of the Adjuant General
that there was money available Tor recruiting there
had bean 800 men adacd 10 the army.
MIR. MILLS, dom) OF Texas asked II the recruits
TOR tho cavalry or infantry service
Mr. HEWITT replied that he did not know.
Mr.. MiLLs--Bcore tho Secretary OF War DO con-
demued tho ono who prefers tho charge must prove
the violation OF tho law. Tho law allows the Secretary
OF War to recruit tho cavalry companies to the
Der Of 100 10 be presumed thut Inc recruits
Mr.. HRwITT-lt Is violation OF law to spend dollar
which has not been appropriated.
Mr.. MiLLs-ls IL violation to carry out the law OF
the land2
Mr.. BANNING. (dem.) OF Ohio. said that he had DO
doubt land no hoped no was correct that those
had been recruited prior to tho ond OF tho fiscal year.
Mr.. HEWITT called attention to tho fact that the telc
gram OF the Aijutant General stated that they had
been recruited SINCE the Both OF October.
A SMART IDEA hut CRUDE.
Mr.. HOOKER, (dcm OF Miss, offered an amendment
providing that no money shall be expended Tor the
transportation or support oil any troops TO be
any State Tor tho purpose Of supprossng iusurrecon,
maintaining order or supporting any government or
pretended government IN such State unless such
shall boon first applied Tor by tho Legislature OF
such State only or by the Executive thereof the
Legislature cannot be convened
Air. GARFIELD, OF Ohio, mado tho point OF order that
tho amendment proposed general legislation, and
therefore out OF order.
The Chairman overruted the point.
Mr. HOOKER proceeded TO advocate the amendment.
He offered IL, he said in no spirit OF complaint with
tho present Executive, any reflection upon tho
President for his action in withdrawing the troops
| from the South. On the contrary, the amendment
was rather commendatory Of the course Of tho TX.
| been deuominatsd the policy Of tho administration
GARFIELD ATTACKS IT.
words .For the purpose OF supprossing
and said I'll stop there and ask the consideration OF
tho House to what would have been our condition II
in 1851 lust that clause had been land IA shackjc on
the President OF tho United States and II he had had
army TO put down rebellion and insurrec.ion IN
any state what better ground OF successful rcyou-
been had than such law | ask whether gentlemen
this floor mean to-day 10 lay plans for future like
that II rebellion should arise In the North or the
East, or the West or tho South? They did not sup
pose in 1860 that such thing as did occur would ever
va rrur An ne ayr mnia In
history through which We have passed makes it iul.
portant that wo do not shacke our government as
tho protection OF its life ask all men who wish
tho perpctuityot our nation not to lay shacklo OF
that sort our government do not by any means
imply that thero any purpose to the scenes
OF 1861 trust that there Is no such purpose any
whore in tho land. But say In all Kindness to the
gentleman from Mississippi that the proposition,
coming as It does without apparent reason now,
will cause Anxiety throughout the American
unpaid. starved army has been hold up here nerc
for these many days TO further starvation, to DO
cut down by death IN Indian warfare, amt given TO
II stllI deeper. but that last Its COMMANDER in chief
should be shackied and the army itself should be
should ake command OF the army anu post four
cavalry regiments where II plcascs. They might rs
we'll take command oil tho picket line ana say where
tho guards arc 10 DO posted.
THE sPKAKER STEAKS
Mr.. Speaker RANDALL IRON members scatI Tho
gentleman from Ohio speaks OF this House. or OF this
side Of the house, starving the army. Does he not
know that when the Army bill failed session
was the province II The President Of tho United states
TO call extra session Of Congress- and does not he
know also (pcrhaps he consulted on tho subiect)
that made the subject Of Cabinet consultation,
wherein decided ny the adm Illustration that tho
army could be until the 18TH OF OctoberY
Mr.. GARFET.r--l am very we'll aware that there
great anxiety both Sides the House that there
should be extra session. and know very wolf that
majority OF the leading members on tho other side
of tho House thought that IT should he postponed;
was not consulted.
Mr, Speaker RAxDALL-Thon how improper It Is to
blame Tor OMISSION OF the President determine Cd
upon Cabinet meeting.
aooD WORD THE PRESIDENT.
Mr.. GOODS (dcm.) OF Va Said that he regretted hav-
ing dlner with mo gentleman from Mississippi. Ho
opposed 10 the amendment, but not Tor the
assigned BY tho gentleman from ONO. In his judy
menl II would be exceedingly unwisc and impolitic
engraft such proposition on tho bill lie had sup
ported voted Tor q restrictive clause tho Army
Appropriation bill last session. but now the clrcum
stances wero entirely different. Did hts fricnd
from Mississippi ignore the change OF cir.
cunstancesY Alter the accession OF President Hayes
he had made an ordor Tor the withdrawal OF troops
from the State houses In South Carolina and Louis
ana. That meant TO indicate that tho President
willing 10 the people OF the South 1t meant to
indicate that the President regarded them brave
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