The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-12-20

period after the execution OF the will aud when any
made by parties Interested could not affect
The Surrogate said he strongly Of the opinion
that the question was inadmssble and read severai
authorities allowed counsel for contestants 70 re-
the question: and he would hear argument
Mr. Lord said that with that reservation his exam
nation OF the witness was completed.
cRoss-ExAMiSArioN.
Mr.. Clinton then commenced the cross-examnatlon
Q. Mr. Vanderbilt your name is Cornelius jeremiah
Vanderbilt? A. belicvo u ~.
Q. Have you used that name generally since you
were twenty-cnef A. have generally called myself
child Of that name thought il better to use IL.
z. When did you begin 10 drop your middle nameY
A. have always used my middle name a. times up 70
addressed Cornelius J. Vanderbilt
q But as general thing you have represented
yourself as Cornelius VanderbitY A. Yes sir.
O. Do you know that Mr.. vanderbilt's grandson was
called Cornelius vandernlL Jr. a; he mas been
q: Don't you know that was his namcS A. Cor
nclius Vanderbilt was his name
Q We're you not IN the habit Of signing notes and
other obligations with the Of Cornelius Wander
bill. JrY A. 1t was at my fathers solicitation used
o. Have you ever done business in the name OF
Cornelius Jeremiah Vanderbilt and Cornelius j. Van
derbilts A. have transacted business sometimes IN
the name Of Cornelius J. Vanderbilt
LuNATIc AsyLuMs.
q. Have you been an inmate OF lunatic asylums on
direct examination? A. Yes, was there on my own
sanction.
u
10 have you Been an inmate oiy A. havo Dcen Ia
Two voluntarily.
Q. More than two A. Not as recollect.
q. Were you ever an inmate OF any insane asylum
except the Occasion you referred TO IN your direct
exam natiouY A. Not that recoiiccl.
q. We're you ever In Bloominsdaic Asylum more
than onceg A. was inmate OF that institution
once besides the time refer TO-
O When did you become m inmate OF Bloomingdale
Asylum-was 1t before the time specified III your d.
rect examination A. Yes, | think II was; u was
when was about nineteen or twenty.
tha m
examination? A. II was when Was about twenty
three or twenty -lour years Of age
You had been AT BloominsdAic Asylum TWO OF
hi years prior 10 thatY A. thlnK so.
@ Did you go voluntarily the first time? A.
O DO you know Ios,vey9 A. I'll not be positive;
l am certain my father wanted me 10 go there, and
O. Was any commitment made out on the first oc
casion when you went there2 A. could not say.
Q VINO with you ana left you there? A.
don't rccollect.
O. Have you any recollection on that subject9 A.
have not
DO you remember whether you went alone? A.
l don't recollcct; l don't think did; lhink my
fal her With me; could not say positively, cut
believe he did.
o. Do you remember anything alse--dd your
mother go with you No. SIR, she did not
q. In whose care were you put-was u Dr. Brown!
A. Yes, 1t was the principal Vi the institutions think
II Dr. Brown
Q. How long did you remain there on this first &C.
cusi0nf A. About a mouth or two months
z. Was It as long Us SIX montbsF a. II nnK ~
might have been.
u.
A. think could.
q DIG you take any legal proceedings to get out?
How long time interviewed between your being
there on the nrst and the second time? A. cannot
q Did you pursue any business between the first
and second time OF your being thcreY A. don't
O. Well do you rccollect whether you did or did
notY A. / don't recolect.
WASHINGTON ExpERIgNcE.
o. Did you 20 10 Bioomingduie from Washington?
Vns cfr fhtnE ,ith
@ Did you 20 the custody of any oncS A. No,
came here with my lather.
O. Well, nj Washington was any criminal charge
made against your A. had drawn money
my father anu he did not pay it.
q. Was there u charge oil forgery against your A.
No; was arrested for getting money III my fathers
name; my falner was ommunicated with about 1t
aud no came and settled II.
q. Were you IN custody at washington on criminal
charge when your father arrived therc9 A. benove
jail there.
o Had you not been in jail both on criminal ana
civil processes? A. II Is very hard thns to under
stand whR you mean; VAS there ior getting draft
on iaher which lie did not pay; rccolect now, sir,
that was under age At thut time
O. We're you In custody, when your iather arrived
In washington on Il or lnlnal proceeding2 A. uon,L
know whether IT q rminal a evil proceeding
@ Was mol your release obtained because you wero
not responsible Tor your actsY "A No. sic; was not
guilty OF the charge brought against me.
U. when you discharged, or the order granted
for your discharge, you were not present. A. was
o. Then of your own knowledge you don't know on
what grounds you were discharged A. was not
present my fatner told me-
q When you arrived mere did you not consent to
60 the asylum order 10 escape The consequences
Of the criminal offence charged against your A. No,
O. Did you consent TO go? A. Yes consented in
Washington, was discharged; my father wanted
me to 60
AT this point DR.. Swascy, VINO mas been constant
attendant AZ the trial and upon Cornelius !. Wander
bit, observed by Mr. Clinton 10 occupy scat by
tho side Of witness aud witnn the bar that sepa
rated tue witness from the auditory. Dir. Clinton
asked the Court to order tho removal of Dr.. Swasey
The Surrogate ordered Dr. Swasey TO take seat TN The
body OF the court room and SAID that he had heard
the Doctsr very oicous with the counsel Tor the
contestant, and 1t was very Improper Tor him to BIO
near to the witness while the testimony Was being
gwen
TO 20 on with TINS examinations A. am, sir.
q. You do not expect any epieptic hty a. never
expect tnem TIL they come.
O. Did you state that your going to a lunatic asylum
the first occasion haa any connection or relation 10
tho charge against you IN Washington A. No rela-
tion whatever; there were no charges.
q. DID you think Yourself insane when you went
thereS A. No, sir. or anyDoiy else
O. When you lett did you ask permission from the
Superintendent? A. think father came out TO
me; he SAID had staid there long enough and went
away; that is my recollection.
q. Don't you know that you came out alone? A.
Yes, came out alone.
q Do you remember whether you were In business
between The nrst and second Time oil your gong 10
tlo asyIumY A. Know was business once or
twice before was married; that was from the time
was twenty-six years old.
q. What business were you inf A. was IN Rapel-
yeas law oiice; Clark 4 Rapelyea
y Horace =. Clark, nc was your broiher-in-law?
A. Yes
.. WHAT capacity we're you in at that Officer A.
could not tell
Y WHAT other business were you in2 A. was in
the leather business IN the swamp; William f. Miller
Co.. II was nj the head oil Cold street
= How many years agoy A. Some time before
married.
z. Whatyc we're you marrieds A. In 1856.
Z How long were you in the leather business?
A. think was there three months.
T. Did you receive wages as u cIerkf A. II is very
probable 1 did; some small amount.
O. DID you go there on your application? A.
On my and some OF my irienas.
O. what caused you 10 leave Muller Co.'S. Al
did 10 stay there; did not relish the bust
very much.
q Did you leave voluntarily. A. Yes.
4. Was any charge IN dc against your A. No.
q Did they pay your wages2 A. think not but
cannot be certain.
q. After you were married what business did you
eug,g, inY A. went on small farfn ut hartord,
Conn winch my father gave u.s.
O. Did he give II you .r your wife2 A. He gave IL
TO my vile.
n mn you worry or tho farm? 1 ntfcndpd IN