New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1877-01-26
NIGHT DEBATE IN THE SENATE.


WHITE. SHERMAN, AND oriiERs-AN AMEND
MrNT BY MIR. MORTON DEFEATED.
WAsUINGTON, Jan. 25.-The debate in the
Senate on the bill reported by select committee in
regard to counting electoral vote continued all
night.
Mr. Morton claimed that the Vice-Prcsdent was not
bound to open any fraudulent certificate from state
As an officer Of United states he bound 10 take
notice as TO who lad been elected electors by the States
and act upon his intelligence Just other public officers
do There were two certificates from Louisiana in the
hands of the viccPresdent. He was not required to
omen them both II he refused 10 open and present the
second return how ii to be got out of his possessions
II he refused open such return that cause OF
reyoution9 Did he understand that the Democratic
party threatened violence revolution the fFesceh
of the Senate withheld bogus certiicaief This bill
conferred upon the tribunal it created power TO lesato
ness its action should be overturned by the actlon OF
the two houses Of Congress. This commission could not
carry ont the bill without going behind returns from
State He believed the Republican party had saved tins
nation and the greatest coDsde atoms OF humanity and
ponics demanded that it be continued in power. At
this particular juncturc 1t not tie duty OF Rcpu-
Lean Senator's it not to their interest, to depart
from the practice which had been followed 70 years
OPPOSITION FROM Mr.. BLAINE.
Ny Blaine said he had he trusted, great an appre
citation any this floor of the gravity OF the
situation He had supported the Senator from Vermont
Cr EdmundS) December in HIS constitutional amend
fr votes 10 The supreme Court lie had favored placing
This power of counting the votes III the Spflne court ~
pacpg 10 mat great body, when by rs dignity ana
iGpartisty could properly exercise It, But that lroho
senate and was defeated by a large vote 80
far as he personally concerned he was
not o TGf The votes lie desired simply TO aGere to
The Constitutions and unlike many GntGf f Mn f, wnon
embarrassing record tins question He was opposed
10 giving the count the votes to Gentlemen
for of whom complete the number by Sc Getting
tie nftecntn and thus by ot or chance hig maj coy
and bashfu blank, rs Mr. Ecnon woold havr tGrnrI ~
or which attention Of the country Is so genefa hNF
II proposed to give these 10 gentlemen o. more
that Congress possessed and he d not beSNt M,
could be done by simple enactment Nothih-
less than constitutional amendment could Gov.
- men snc1 trel 1I go ,nc 92%Gc
it 10 warranted py the Constitution, which be had
to support and t9oneh he dd not prcJShG 10 DT
on his oath must vote his own cOnscentoo. bticI Oi
sized earnestly TO support this bill if he could DO
sIscnty. Tie arguments ad1uced III us FAVOR had per
SHADED him OF its uncoustituti uay, and he fell himself
eonurled however reluctantly he differed from certain
Senators record his vote against the measure IN con
clnsion Mr.. Blaine begged thr Judiciary COMMITTEE now
the public mind was 50 strongly directed this question:
to franz amendment 20 the Constitution Wlhch Would
If possible avert in future al danger OF rene Val 81
thOs- trCuolcs which were now aisDS anxiety IN ''e
SPEECH or Mr.. HOWE.
Mr. Howe Gsep Wisl denied that this hll was framed
in the interest OF the Democratic party II the result OF
the late Presidential contest not left in DOM; it was
certainly ef; in dispute and somebody mus, d'eife that
.sunte lie Thought the b reported b the Com
miiicc and now before the Scnatcwas the roudst in
can "tsmansiip which hal been prepared since the
convention which framed the Constitution ADJOURNED
MR.. EATON IN OPPOSITION.
Mr. Eaton Dem. Comm said lie was almost alone on
the Democratic side of the chamber in opposing hs bill
lie deeply regretted that the Legislature OF his STATE on
SATURDAY. last rcques ted him to vote FOR the bill but they
were wise enough get together yesterday and recon-
sI..f
In the minority, hut he had learned to ,@nd
or his own CONNECTION ,o ood e t ha' III in'n and
regretted he could not vote Cor It, lie denied that me
power 10 C0ant electoral vote was vested IL the III
idt OF the Senate ana argued that il lodged IN the
Two houses Of Congress This contriyance now before
the SENATE should sink in In his opnion, the
newer 10 cGUgt the electoral being vested In the two
houses Of Coness y could be hacsG n%H l[ cid f
cheated. He did not believe it would be benefit to
Mr. thurman Dem. Ohio believed the people would
become aroused to the facts and regulate the matter by
constitutional amendment
GENERAL DISCUSSION.
Mr. Whyte tDem., Md said lie had doubts as to the
eonstituionay Of this bill. II il 10 be a measure
permanent its character he would vote against IT,
He believed that the opening Of tie certificates III the
presence OF the houses Of Congress was TO enable
officer. He denied that this bill Vas hcpnhicih sur
Tcuder Ii was Ike Democratic Surrender. 1t
all of his patriotism To surrender All thdl ne De
lcved beionged to the Democratic party -.
donis a. 10 the coastituionay this BILL bat it's pas
sac mipt save the country from civil war and strife
Mr. Burnside rep, r. ~ denied that the Republican
Senators favorable 10 the BAL on account o hple
tensions. They not intiindated, hut were ohly
searated from the Senator rom Indiana now because
they were acting Tor the good of their constituents
Mir EdInunds Rep, vi said the time had gone ny now
for debate. lie begged hls honorable friend IRON ONO
(SherDau 10 the history OF Their own party look
M their own attitude, and tell him some day, not now
whether thought the Republican party cJuld stand
qualification aud dshonor in order that 1t might gam
Temporary advantage.
Mr Dawes (Rep., Mass.) withdrew the amendment
submitted ny him yesterday IN regard TO defining Inc
power of the tribunal to be created.
Mr.. Sherman Nsep, Ohoj reviewed his objections To
The pending bill and argued that ii Is mol Customary or
lawful TO pose other duties on iud gees Of counts.
Edmunds said the act OF 1923 selected judge III
Florida TO settle certain claims of Mexico
Mr.. Shenandoah was a judicial act 80
Mr. Edmunds replied that IL was not, and the supreme
Court had decided and had refused to review the acs
Of this judge.
Mr.. MoRToN's AMENDMENT.
Mr. Morton argued that more light had been thrown
upon this subject Of counting the vote within the last 80
or GOdays than had been before He submitted an
amendment providing that nothing contained IN the act
should authorize the commission to behind the find
ing and determination OF the Canvassing or Returning
Board or State authorized by the laws OF state ~
ind and determine the result Of election for electors
Mr.. EdmdRds opposed the amendment ana moved 10
amend 10y striking out the negative words 90 as 10 pro
vide the should authorize the commission 10 80
behind the finding, DC. -
The amendment Of Mr. Edrnunds 10 that OF Mr.. Nor
ton was reected-Yeas l; Nays, 6l-Mr Cooper (tenn)
being the only Senator who voted In the ainImat!Ve
The question then being on the amendment OF Mr. MOT
ton, IL rejected-Yeas, Is; Nays az, as ioho"s'
IRepubIicans in Roman, Democrats III ftalicsl:
YEAS
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