The New York herald., 1877-11-23

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| there vii! be found some member Of this body
who In the language OF parliamentary bodies, VIII
osaer shall execute D!a The Senator from Ohio,
or any other Senaor take issue with that statement
Did any Senator set me right or set the Chair right,
because ! had the acquiesccnce OF the Char a. the
time! When asserted that this motion had not oeen
wlthdrawn. that could not be Withdrawn, then was
ror the honorable Senator from Ohio TO insist
NJ TnuxxAs-what docs tho Senator mean by say
ing that he had the acquescence OF the Chairy Tho
record does not say that tho Chair uttered word.
| Mr. CoxkLIsc--lndeeds Let mo set my friend right
| again. The Senator from Ohio rose, and rose with
some might, alter my statement that the motion was
SILL pending He rose assert for once at least the
rules OF tho Senate. He made point Of order upon
motion 70 lay the table thcn pending, and that
moton was not debatabe. and bowipg as always do,
| 10 the honorable Senator from Ohio, congra1u-
lated him on appearing tho champion OF
order and took my seat with promptness
tho senators around me- The Char did make re-
mark just this point and the record shows IT. indi.
eating clearly that he regarded sne m0ton 70 iay
honorable senator from ohio will SEQ that had not
had or rather had he not had, the approval OF the
been deemed In order and for aught the Senator from
OHIO knows, might have been on the door to this
time.
Mr. EArox-And talking still (Laughterl
Mr. CoxxLIxG-And as the Senator from Connecticut
IN saying shasl had the approval Of the Chair; i is
time. also that had the great authority OF the hon
orable Senator from OHIO himself submit, Mr.
President that the journal ought not 10 be amended
SO as 70 get rid OF the motion TO lie ON the table II
cannot be amended unless the Senate should vote
'l should like 70 make remark" and the other say
Ing ~ nave no objection and withdraw my motion
for that purpose" such dialogue between Two Sena-
tors actually obterates a rule OF the Senate sponees
from The journal an order which has boon put thero oy
ouehfh OF the Senate, shat the yeas and nays shall be
taken, and reverses the whole proceeding, aud
all upon the theory, as ! must understand u,
that what the Senator from Massachusetts thought az
tho timc and what nc said 10 the Senator from Dea-
ware tantamount TO the Chair propoundng 10 the
Senator another question-namely Whether, In spite
be withdrawn by unan imous consentP and then de-
clarinc the assent dissent OF the Senate when as
saa 20 say or ars bssn naa M
AZ could be upon anything III interposing an objec-
lion, having myself ASKED Tor tho yeas and nays, 10
the end that the motion 10 lay on the table should be
voted upon and that we should then know BY whose
il is that success s hoped for in motion to
from never investigated there or here and to
bring here 10 DO carried by main lorce, by the
force OF numbers, when had been ascertalned some
whore that numbers could be procured.
sir. BArARD. OF Delaware, spoke Of the respect he
had for rules OF the Senate, and said be held that
the courtesy which extended to him yesterday BY
unanimous consent did not dispacc the motion 10 lay
the table made by the senator IRON Massachusetts
(Mr. Hoarl So far ne (br. Bayard) could he pro-
posed TO have the matter just where Il was when
unanimous consent gwen him 10 explain his views
and not have tho motion OF the Senator from Massa-
cbusets displaced account Of the courtesy extended
TO him (Alr Bayardl The Senator from New York
tMr. Conkng) had spoken OF whispers throughout the
Bay could only say that he nad never heard such
whispers, and. so Tar as he knew, there were no al
upon which he did not invite the fullest light
Mr.. THURMAN, OF Ohio, said he had hoped the Sem
ator from Delaware lMr. Bayardj would NOT imagine
that his sense Of honor was any more acute than that
OF other Senators this door. But he OR Thur.
many stood by the record, and the honor OF the Sena
tor (Mr. Bayara) was not al all involved He (Mr.
Thurman) knew he was rignt In this matter; but as
his trlena from Delaware thought IL placed him in
delicate position he withdrew the motion TO correct
the journal.
The PARIS ExpOsrrIOy
Mr. WINDOW, (rep OF Minn from Ihe Committee on
Appropriations reported with amendments the House
JOINT resolution In relation to the International indus
trial Exposition TO be held In Paris In 1878 Placed
the calendar
hnshed business, which was the resolution OF Mr.
Thurman 10 discharge the Committee on Privileges
and Elections from the iursher consideration Of the
credentials Of N. G. Butter as Senator from south
Carolina; the pending motion being that OF Mr. Hoar
to lay the resolution the table, ana IL was re-
jected-yeas 80, nays 50, as follows:-
eron Of Pennsy!yania chsSss chTissapsy. csaklins,
ss '%s a.Ss. sS 1S ;ss
ell Morrill, SSs;Sy rsSdsSs S WEGSo. en Saunders
ns. b.y vsss.
Johnston, q tionds Lamar; Mecrsers. Mcdonald.
Salisbury. Thurman. Voorhees,. Wallace, whyte and
VINO would have voted 10 the negative, were paired
with Messrs. Anthony, Plumb. Cameron Of Wisconsin,
The PAIR o Mr.. Blame OF Maine. and Mr.. Grover Of
Oregon all political questions was announced yes
terdsy by Mr. Hamiin, and both these Senators are
absent from tho city.
The Senate having refused 10 lay the resolution on
the table tho question recurred on Its adoption.
Mr.. EDMUNDs moved 70 amend by striking out the
name OF N. c. Butler and inserting that OF William p.
Kellogg striking South Carolina and inserting
Louisiana, so IL would read:-
tions discharged from consideration Of the credentials
William PITT Kellogg. Of Louisiana.
Mr.. WALLACE, (den.) OF Pa, raised point OF order
that the amendment was not germane TO the original
propositions; which was to swear in a Senator from
South Carolina; but the amendment proposed to
swear In one from Louisiana.
The VICE PRESIDENT said the point OF order was not
we'll taken.
Mr.. MCDONALD, (dem.) OF Ind, said the Senator
from Vermont (Mr Edmunds) wns certainly absent
the Senate yesterday and therefore do not hear
the earnest appeal that was made 20 the Senate by the
Chairman OF the Committee on Privileges and Elec-
tions. especially with reference to the SpoGord Kel
logg case, IN which he undoubtedly furnished very
the state Of progress Of tnat was such before the
committee that IL would be very indecorous indeed
tions. II the Senator heard that ne tMr. McDon-
ad) was quite certain he would not have made the
moton he mad made.
Mr. EDMUSDs said:-I have read the record with
considerable care, and find that the Chairman OF the
Committee Privileges and Elections did attempt to
persuade my honorable friend IRON Inuiana and 9TH
Of that k, that IL was ungracous, unjust, unfair
aad unprecedented; let me tell my honorable friend
the heels Of committee OF this body before they had
opportunity to investigate matter that 1t had been
thought worthy 10 send to them Tor invcstigit ition
and particularly by that sort Of as parliamentary
10 say ''conlrvance" Mr. President y-by that
sort OF method--I believe that is . parhamen-
tary word Dy that sort OF method whlch,
in some concave somewhere, adjusts matters OF this
kind appealing 10 The judicial sense oI this body; IN
the dark, campaign Ia war time IS supposed 10 be
adjusted, with spies. tactcs kilograms, cphers and
and then march into tho arena OF serene JUS
tlce, II Is often called upon such questions and,
take tho case which happens TO be most convenient
order 70 make votes fastest, cut that of from con-
sideration, and thereby acquire strength enough by
s0me SOLID methods to prevent any other than sm-
liar disposition OF any other like case, without any
regard to the evidence. Mr. President II anything OF
that kind has occurred u 10 notorious IN The news
papers that IL has, then IL does not commend ITSELF II
appears to me, largely TO our consideration But my
friend from lndiana now tells me that the Chairman
OF the Committee on Privileges and Elections says that
the kellogg case ought TO be investigated. So u
ought; but not less tnan those that stand later on
the calendar Of the Senate, and presume on the cal.
OF the mlttee, and that ought IN all ustice
and truth be taken up in their order and fairly con-
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