The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-05-06
there was to that VIZ, President Young did not crook
his finger.

CORRESPONDENCE u, Brigham Young)-what OF tn
alleged order OF Darr,tesy
BRIGHAM YoUSG-irhat is all folly.
CoRKEsroSDExr-5'hen,a as to the extent or the tenn
porai power Of the church,
BRIGHAM YouSG--It extends only as far rs member
ship IS concerned. 1 may. however, advise man how
to build or improve his garden or field and II b,
chooses to he may ather receive il or reject IL withou
involving his fellowship
CoRREsroSDESr-sooc not the temporal government
OF the Church. cases. assume the functions
OF courts?
BRIGHAM YoUSG--We have what we call bishops
courts. which amount 10 referees ordinary cases
business, and in Es OF disagreement between
bcrs or immoral &C 0duct From these courts cases
may DO appealed 10 our High Council, which consists
OF president. two councillors and twelve members.
Their power exten ds further than membership In
the Church il conc,xned.
APosrATEs LIE.
CoRREspoNpEST-2Iow far does the authority OF the
Church 20 in dcain with cases Of apostasys
BINGHAM YOUNG. We have nothing to do with them
let them y alone. They say the Church
thortes injure theuA They lie. We have dealing Is
at all with such men, or their their unworih
ness OF membership In our Church
CoRREsPoNpgxr--How do you protect your faith
from outside infuen ccs-how do you keep Isolated
BRIGHAM YouSG-Re are different from all other
Christian sccs We arc believers In tho Bible. well
as all the reveatiEs the Lord has gwen to tho chill
drcn OF men, colrtancd in the Old and New Testa-
ment Book OF Mormon and Book or Doctrine OF Cove
nants and also what he reveals through his author
izcd servant when speaking or preaching under the
influence Of the Holy Ghost. When u man speaks by
that spirit IL revcl 1ion and II his hearers pos
scssed Of the they abc to judge OF the
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in man. and the inspiration OF the Almighty giving
him understanding" This is what refer to. The
object Of my labors among tho people is to get them
tho truth, and tho whole truth. it has been
revealed And they live that this good spirit
can bear witness to them. We're II otherwise might
deceive them; but M long as they havo this spirit
no man can deceive them
G0o's PROPHET
CoRREspoSDESr-Yol, like the old prophets, receive
direct revelation from God?
BRIGHAM YoUNG-Ees and not only me, but my
brethren Also
CoRREsroSDExr-Docs that extend to all the Church
without reserve or rank?
BRIGHAM YoUSG-Yes; and 1t Is just necessary
for the mother to this spirit in training and
rearing her children sss for any one else.
CoRREsP0NDExT-It W. absolutely necessary, then
that each person receive revelation through your
Christ the Holy Ghost; but dictate the Church is
my part OF It
A MRAcLE-Ay EGYPTIAN MIRACLE REPEATED.
CoRREspoSpENr-And your authority to dictate is
given directly by heavenly inspiration?
BRIGHAM Yourselves ! can relate little circum-
stance which explains that and which may be interest
ing to you. Whom !, with others OF the twelve, was
to England on mission in the year 1910, fro
quently asked Joseph Smith how we should do this
and thatg Sand he -"Brother Brigham, l want you
TO understand doctrine 1t Is. When you reach ing
land the Lord will teach you what 10 do, just as He
teaches me how to act here" This found to be
verify true. Brother Heber c. Kimbal and started
on that mission POOR health, without money and
without clothes. My family, too, were sick and but
poorly on We having been driven from our houses in
Missouri We started from Terre Haute and travelled
to ONO; every place stopped found money In my
trunk, ana expenses only amounted TO $50, and
i've had more than $13 so when l started.
have one qualification when tell people that any.
thing is true. they Know IL Is true just well do
Tho Prophet, whose massive figure occasionally
and trombed In its seat In the shadowy
ner spoken or lifted his face and both his hands
with this last utterance, making Impressive and
rcverent gesture
CoRREspoNDEST--n all members Of tho Mormon
Church thus endowed with divine vision how is IL
possible that any number of Mormons could have
brought themselves to tho commission OF such q
CRIME as the Mountain Meadow massacre II they did
not find for doing In their faith or II
they did not believe 1t would DO approved by the
Prophet?
MURDEREEs WE'RE NOT tsAIyTsn
BRIGHAM YouNa-Bscause the mon who did 1t wero
wicked.
CoRRxspoSDEST-wfn defect is thoro In the organI-
cation your Church that allowed the preparation
OF that deed TO go without instant punishment
BRIGHAM YoUSG--That was q matter that pertaincd
the law Of tho land. That alone nicts punish ment.
There is defect in the organization of the Church
the defect was in hosewno took part in the
The laws Of tho land good, but still do not al
ways keep them. The-Saviour says that "thc wheat
and the will grow together until the harvest"
we had none but good men among such sad expo
riencos would never happen, but because wo have
some wicked men should we DO blamed for their nc
tions?
CoRREsPoSDEyr-Wec not some OF the men who
figured in tho massacre chiefs in your church,
BRIGHAM YoUSG--Lee wus n farmer among the In.
dams, but held presiding Office. p. X. Smith, how.
ever, was an acting bishop
In regard the participation OF the Indians in this
affair, the following conversation took place.
President YoUNG-When l was At ST. George Gen.
eral Z. c. Rich, OF Bear Lake, told mo that he met
part OF this company in Salt Lake CITY; he had just
come from California, having travelled this south
route. And talking with me he told that he
advised ihem to 60 north, and he believed they wont
as far north Beaver River. They returned, saying
they would take tho southern road They laiG idle
over six weeks, when they should have been travel
ling ana when they moved they moved slowly; and Il
was believed, for they said It themselves that they
were waiting the arrival or the army. It was very
noticeable that they did not hurry along like other
grants.
BROTHER WELLS EXPLAINS AGAIN.
DANIEL ii. WELLs-And that company, remember
was not In the Territory when George A. smith lef
Salt Lake make his southern tour How. then could
he. has been said, kill tho people by arousing
malicious feeling against the emigrants-saying they
had poisoned springs. &c.-at time wien the emf
grants were hundreds Of miles away, when b,
Ind not seen any OF them, and no on,