The New York herald., 1877-10-03
NEW YORK DEMOCRATS.
Determined Efforts to "Carry" the
Convention To-Day.
THE GOVERNORS STATEMENTS.
Arrival Of Kelly. Morrissey
and Bixby.
TAMMANYS FIRST DEFEAT.
A Rumpus Before the State Cen
trail Committee.
TEMPORARY ORGANIZATION.
Success of the Robinson Tilden
Party.
THREATS OF VENGEANCE.
TAMMANYS FIRST DEFEAT.
A Rumpus Before the State Gen.
trail Committee.
TEMPORARY ORGANIZATION.
Success of the Robinson-Tilde
Party.
THREATS OF VENGEANCE.
lpY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD

lBY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.1
ALBANY, Oct Q 1877.
The cropping Ore Of arriving delegates which was
Kcpt up yesterday through tho pigns has ceased
to-day and gvcn place TO tho ratting OF artillery,
which Is now heard all along the limo. Tho Delavan
House this evening denscy crowded used to
be in tho rousing days OF the old Tammany rule, and
there IS intense excitement among tho moro deeply
Interested OF tho conondng factions and considerable
show OF strong feeling the part OF tho immedi-
ato friends Of the old canal mon, amount.
ing in many cases to vcnomous and
very undemocratic strife. Tho spirit Of opposition
manifested against the present State ocers ncites the
conviction that there Is something moro than . mere
contention over tho nomination animatng a portion,
at least OF ther opponents Many democrats from the
central and western part OF the State do not hesitate
acnounce Mr.. Bigelow and Mr.. FairchiId IN tho most
unmeasured terms and to threaten an open bolt
from tte Convention should they DO nominated.
This electionecring against the State officers
has served to add TO their strength and
II othcr and better Influences not at
work IN favor OF new or partially new ticket thors
would be no chance OF their renomination.
Several unplcdgcd and undecided delegates who came
prepared 10 hear calm arguments tho wisest pol
icy that bc pursued by tho party, In ordcr to in
in the State this first contest following
the Presidential struggle and 10 strengthen the dem
ocracy In the several Senatorial districts have bc-
como alarmed however, at this vruent dcnunciation
of state officers against whom specific charges OF
misconduct have been made
CURRENT TALK.
One OF this number remarked to-day:-.I was OF
opinion beioro reached hcre that as the democratic
party contains many capable and honest men, fully
Trustworthy as those filling the State Offices, it
might strengthen through the State TO take up now
and acceptablcs, am in iavor Of rotation In oflce,
and have thought that might DO advanced to
positions In the State government who would
impart moro enthusiasm to tho canvass than tho
gentlemen who elected two years ago. hut II
the latter TO be driven out with scourses, can
readiy belicvo that the fight Is made, not against
them as individuals who arc moro sntitlod than
others 10 the Offices, but against the State adminstra
lions Of which they have been part and parcel.
NEW TICKET SUPPORTERS.
1hore arc, however, many delegates out of the 3s4
In tho Convention who favor a new ticket on en-
rely different arour ds Tho friends OF Mr. Beach arc
among this number, and they simply declare
port Biselow, first, because he Is
moro pronounced democrat, and next because
present Secretary Of State member Of tho Canal
Boari But many OF these delegates do not 90
present regime, and II they could secure Mr.. Beach
they might agree to the rest OF tho old ticket being
by Tho force Of circumstances to lean towards other
changes.
The supporters of the old ticket made fair, square
Eight for tie whole or none, and stand firmly for
Mr.. Bisclow and Mr. Fairchild as Tor Mr.. Olcot The
ony member Of the present government who evinccs
disposition 10 work on his own account, independ
emily of his associates IS Mr. Ross, the State Treas
urcr, and he has boon endcavoring 10 make combina
lions in all directions Tor tho purpose OF securing his
own re nomination. But outside Mr. Ross all the old
State officers and their friends stand by tho absent
Mr.. BlgeIow as firmly as they do BY the Comptroller,
rAxMAxY's HOSTS
The Tammany delegates who arrived today
unusually quiet, and arc behaving themselves with
far more prudence and dignity than the Canal Rngmen
with whom tho fortune Of politics again throws them
IN association. john Kelly, Augustus Schol Thomas
Dunlop, Mr.. Clinton and the other delegates repre-
ten,ing Tsmmany have kept their own counsel, and
while they mny display spirit lacr 10 tho even
ing they have thus lar been apparently wiling to
abide quietly whatever decision may be arrived at
before the Convention.
ALARM OVER MoRRIssEY's PROMISED SUCCESS
Tho announcement made Dy the HERALD to-day that
The Now York delegates would DO admitted 10 the
Convention as regular according TO their representa-
lion tho state Central Committee, that Is to say,
Ihirty-sx Tammany delegates and twcDty seven anti
rammany. was staggering blow TO tho Tammany
leaders. They arc greatly alarmed at the proposition
because Of It's evident airness and the apparent
possibility Of settling the matter any other basis;
aud 1t is probable that their subducd policy may be
designed prevent It's adoption IL 10 no likely how.
ever, that they do The member OF iho
democratic State Central Committee Is tho highest
democratic authority In his district He Is placed
leading democratic body OF the State IL would not
nossinc that the OF tr members OF tho 81 ate
could withhold from The member who represents tho
Albany Congressional District the tickets OF The dele
gates from Albany county TO the State Convention,
aud give them 10 the contestng delegates. Such a
thing would be unhcard oL In like manner
the members OF tho state Committee repre-
Is entitled 10 receive the tickets for the
delegation IRON his district and 10 give tncm TO
The proper parties. Tho Tammany members OF tho
State Committee will however, make desperate hght
over this question at the committee meeting, as tho
calculations. They have depended on getting both
lammany and AnitTammany delegations admitted TO
the floor and lighting the battle out IN the Convention.
hoping by combination with every delegate who mas
q candidate Of hts Tor any Office 10
secure enough votes under pledges Of support.
ing that candidate to secure tho hnal admission OF
the solid Tammany delegation. Up TO the present
moment, while everything rs still uncertain anu whlc
seem 10 lean toward the success OF the old ticket
THE OLD TICKET ORGANIZATION
,.,e Inc od ncke. men are, Of course more eoncen.
after are scattered and divided on candidates., and
aave not yet been brought together on settled and
united pan, " Indeed they be. Tho
iiibcuy OF thus making combined hght
against tho old ticket hes the tact that
Office and some Tor another but favor the rcnom.
nation OF portion OF The old oInccra Mhic this d.
vison OF the opposition exists chances oil beating
the old ticket appear 10 De slight. As the delegates
arrive iron the country districts they are almost
tain 10 make their nrst visit TO the Governor aud in
The atmosphere OF tue Executive Chamber tnero Is a
strong air oi singcncss OF purpose winch has very
decided ehect Oh Inc visitors. Governor Robinson
taxes postve position.
GOVERNOR ROBINSON GIVES MS VIEWS
The wyoming ana Gcncscc delegates called on him
this afternoon, and after conversation ono OF
them inquired the Governors views as to tho policy
81 nominating now ticket or adhcrug TO tho present
State officers
My opinion is." said tho Governor chat tho issue
has been brought down TO tho one point whether you
Will continue the policy OF the state admins
Tation as At present or return 10 the Old Ring
system While thcre are, no doubt, many sincere,
a,siatcrcstcd democrats, who would ike to make
hcw nominations aud who PROBABLY nave iayoritc can
didates whose merits untitlo them support IL is up
dcniablc nat every man who opposed t;ovcrnor
lildcn's State policy and opposed mlnc is Ia favor
0f rejecting the present State officers aud substituting