The New York herald., 1877-11-23
PROCEEDINGS OF CONGRESS.
SENATE.

WASHINGTON, Nov. %, 1877.
Aer the reading OF the journal Of yesterdays pro-
ceedngs Mr.. THURMAN arose TO the same, and
said IL was In showing that the pending mo-
ton when the Senate into executive yes
terday was that OF Mr. Hoar of Massach uset TO lay
the resolution to discharge the Committee on Prvi-
leges and Elections from the further
the credentials Of H. G. Butler Senator from South
Carolina the table. He quoted from the
record OF yesterdays proceedings and argued
that Mr.. Hoar withdrew his motion to lay
on the table TO allow the Senator from
Delaware mr. Bayard) to speak, and after that Sem
ator concluded, when he mr. Thurman) complained
that the motion 70 lay the table deprived him OF
his right close the debate the Senator from Massa-
chusetts (Nr. Hoar) said he certainly would not make
the after his (Mr. Thurmans) intmation with
out his having an opportunity to speak. and was
then that she Senator from New York mr. Conkiing)
made the point OF that motion would not be
withdrawn the yeas and nays having been ordered
IT, Mr.. Thurman moved to amend the journal by In
serting after the ordering OF the yeas and nays
Hoar's motion, "aud thereupon, BY unanimous con,
sent the from Massachusetts, mr. Hoar) with,
drew his notion"
Mr. CoxKLING and others-Oh, no; the record docs
not show that
MI. HoAR, (rep. Of Mass, quoted from the record
and argued that he had renewed his motion lay
the table, whom the Senator from Delaware (Mr. Bay
ard) concluded his remarks but expressed himself
willing to withdraw It for the purpose Of allowing the
Senator from Ohio (Mr. Thurnan) to speak. but the
point Of order then raised that 1t could not be
withdrawn. the yeas and nays having been ordered.
Mr.. EDNuSDs ITO Mr.. Thurman)-Woud IT be IN order
Privileges and ElsctionsY
Mr.. IHURMAS-We will never get q report laugh
Mr.. CoHKLIxG said:-Mr. President, the amend
mont offered by tho Senator from Ohio requires an
amendment To state the truth as he understands It
the journal should declare that 10y unanimous con-
sent ofthe Senator from possibly
OF the Senator from Delaware, although do not think
1t clear that he should be lncuded-this motion Was
Withdrawn. II the journal should go any iurther it
would tell an untruth, unknown, / think, to evory
ws,eS has as ns ns 0So
himself Is there any prctence IN this printed record,
In any suggestion the senate has heard that the
President submitted TO the body whether unanimou US
consent should be given 10 the withdrawal OF this
motion TO lie on tho table, and that the senate gave
consentf
Mr. THURMAS-I ask the Senator from New York II
IL is the every day PRACTICE when obi lection is
raised, to consider that unanimous consent IL gwen
SPEECH OF Mr.. coNKLIxG.
Mr. CoSKLIxG-rne honorable senator from Ohio
seemed yesterday 10 think unsafe assertion
when declared my ignorance OF a courtesy or GUS
tom In Senate such as hc then afhr rmed Now, II
answer his question As must answer, II at all, no
may think me again guilty OF extravagance OF assor
my knowledge did IL occur in the Senate, was IL
suggested before, that permitting Senator by unan-
consent to make remarks, not at the moment IN
Order revolutionzed the Journal overhrew the rules
and subverted The orders OF the senate. Never!
Mr. President, this proceeding yesterday was not
accidental or careless. am positive affirm ny that
IL Was not needless or accidental The motion to lay
on the table was not a stray motion. The senator
from Massachusc had, think, considered IT, Other
Senators had considered It also 1t was not by acci.
dent that lost not one moment when the motion was
made IN demanding Tue yeas and nays upon It. My
ms vnl 1nff ha aypnf tn IuuA that l,1a
yond reach oil recall or power OF withdrawal by any
body have no hesitation in avowlng my reason for
this. There had been II not rumors, whis-
pcrs OF new and strange alliances-it IS to be
hoped tncy are holy alliances There had
been whispers Of alliances pending for some
time, and which were yesterday suspected to have
rpencd into certainty, alliances rolled uron 10
fer tho majority from ono side to the other side oil
The Senate. ! felt II my right 10 ascertain by tho
earliest method Who were the allies the reserves and
recruits, ana how many there were. 1t seemed that
motion TO lay on the liable, not being debatabo.
and show how II was that the control OF tho senate
Was 10 pass away from the majority, us heretofore
constituted and, like the Star oil Empire, "westward
take ITS way" was quite particular, therefore, TO
get upon the journal the TACT that the
one.nith OF tho senate had ordered the yeas and
nays 70 bo taken. my object, Of course
being that tho iorly-fourih rue OF the Senate,
might operate, which rule is In these words s:.sA ny
motion or resolution may be WITHDRAWN or mod incd
by the mover at any time before decision, amen d.
meht or ordering OF the yeas and nays except mo-
uon,n y and so on 1 speak o. my motiys ana purposo
next 10 Impossible that such mistake was permitted
MS he now wants the journal 70 assert. Wnen the
Senator from Delaware rose and asked be allowed
10 make some remarks and sugses withdrawal oil
the motion TO lay on the table saw very clearly, az
other senators did VINO attended IT, that the senate
from massachusetts, had not IN his nina at the III O.
ment the torty-iourth rule the tact that an
impassab.e barrier had been put between MIN and oil
power To Withdraw his motion The phi hraseolvgy he
adopted IN reply 10 the Senator from Delaware in adj
dtioa 70 signying his readiness 70 DO courteous. nc
doubt sgnihcd also his supposton that ho had the
power TO withdraw. Nobody rose interrupt In or
dor 10 read rule OF the Senate, and every body,
think knew thai the mental operation OF tho senator
from Massachusetts could not overthrow the rules o
| undo what tue Senate had done The Senator IRON
Delaware proceedcl subsequently guaSd agans;
possibility Of mistake. took occasion 10 r, IN nd lns
Senate and the Chair OF the state OF the c1estton
AS distinguished Senators have the son
ate this morning by reading from the speeches thcy
made venture 10 read short extract IRON lev oD
seryattons OF mine said :-"Whon this motion wal
made TO lay this resolution on the table, senator
was that Scnator-dcmandcd the yeas and nays. The
yeas and nays ordered. The rule OF the Senat
declares tnat after that no Senator withdraw mo
lion. No Senator has Withdrawn IT, No Senator will
think, withdraw u, because u will be within tnt
province OF every other Senator 70 insist upol