The New York herald., 1877-11-14
Further Testimony for the Contestants
Before The Surrogate.
THE coMMODoRES lNFlRMITlES.
Family Affairs Dragged Out OF
Their Long Closed Graves.

o'clock About that hour Mr.. William H. Vanderbilt,
Mr.. Augustus Sche, witnesses and counsel IN tho
arrived in IL was halfpast eleven O'CLOCK
before tho Surrogate took his seat This was just alter
the arrival Of Judge Black. who hustled IN hurriedly
II conscious Of tho fact that ho was OBTAINING tho
Court. The spectators were not very much enter
taincd as 1t happened that the testimony ehcted
lated only very small portion OF tho case as set
forth tho opening address OF counsel. Only two
witnesses were examined during tho day, aud
their evidence did not stir tho multi
tudo TO than the iaintest ripple OF
interest. Sull the crowd waited with much pa
thence as II tho the personal concern OF
each. Mr.. William Ii. Vanderbilt sat gazing piacdly
the rescocd ceiling during tho day, dreamily ab-
sorbing tho proceedings. Now and then he would
dart a quick glance at tho first witness he made
some statement concerning himself or II a negative
answer was made TO some question suggested by him.
When had been restored. after tho Surrogate's
upon the BENCH list Of witnesses to Lc
amincd was read and some responded Those desirous
Of getting their nfty cents per diem for attendance
were Informed they could have whenever theychose
to ask for It,: This preliminary over Mr.. Daniel b.
Allen was again called to the witness stand. Mr..
Scott Lord continued to conduct his examination,
Jadgo Black merely looking on.
Following is the evidence adduced:-
THE EVIDENCE
Q. A year or two after your marriage where did you
reside? a. | resided with Mr. Vanderbilt as a men,
bor Of his family.
O. During that time ald you hear nny conversation
wills in which Commodore Vanderbilt par tcipatedY
q. More than one2 A. Yes; the subject OF the
Commodorc's fathers will was discussed by the Com
modore and Mrs. Vanderbilt frequently.
2. What was saidy A. The equal distribution of his
tatner's property mentioned and approved by the
Commodore; tho TACT that tho Commodore's father
had divided hs property among his several children
Was approved; that provision OF tho Will which tho
Commodore had himself insisted on his iathcr's
making Mrs. Vanderbilt said had becn a source OF
great discomfort to his mother.
q What was the provislony A. That If she married
again the property Lett her should thcreupon 60 to the
This closed tho direct examination and the cross
examination was commenced by MIR. Henry L. Clinton.
Mr. Clinton-Do you know how much properly
Commodore Vandorblls iathcr left? A. Yes; about
O. What year did the conversation referred to just
now about the Will take placer A. About 1884 or
1886
O You spoke of Mr.. w. H. Vanderbilt having con-
versations with you about lhirU years ago. Was
be then on tho staten Island iarm A. Yos.
q his father nnd mother, TOO :? A. Yes
q About how lar apart did they vcP A. From four
10 iive miles,
o From tho time W. H. Vanderbilt married he lived
apart IRON his fathers famayY A. Yes.
q How old he wnen he marred2 A. About
twenty.
O At the time W. II. Vanderbilt lived on the Staten
Island farm whore did you reside! A. Pant OF the time
on Staten Island ana part IN New york
Y. How near William II. Vanderbilt did you live on
Staten lsandy A. About four Or i've miles.
q Did you often see William II. thens A. About
Q. You were then intimate? A. We were.
q. Did you ever hear William L. oppose his father
In anything? A. No. never
O. HIS iuther's Will was aw9 A. Absolute law 10
him.
In anythingS A. did.
THE LOANS TO WILLIAM H.
@ You spoke OF loans 10 William IL when was the
last time you made loans 10 himr A. don't remem-
ber.
O. Within twenty-five years-thirty yoarss A.
O. What was largest amount9 A. About SIS, 900.
z When was that? A. About 1882.
U With that EXCEPTION, what the highest
amount ut any tmeg A. About $500.
O. You wcrc always paids A. Always
q When did you last SEQ Commodore Vanderbilt
ana his sou William II. togctherY A. l do not re-
member.
q Did you them together subsequent to 1seas
Q. Where d,d you SEQ them togethcr9 A. l nm not
T. Can you remember any other timer A. Not
specifically.
q Where generally? A. AT Saratoga, at the house.
Mt the club IN New York and ut the Commodore's
ofnce.
MRS. yASpERBrLT AN ASYLUM.
.. You spoke OF Mrs. Commodore Vanderbilt hav
ing gone 10 an asylum and aso OF her having gone 10
Canada Did you and your wife advise the jour TO
Canada? A. The suggestion certainly did not coinc
trom me.
q. Did you express opinion op that subject ?
A. expressed willingness to SO with Mrs. Wander
q Did you in any way dissent IRON the proprety
OF that journeys A. don't think did.
u WHAT did ycu mean by saying that Mrs. Wander
bt's mind was then affected A. 1 mean that sh o
was more irritable and disturbed than usual.
T. Did the Commodore say Il change OF scene might
help her? A. Yes.
q. Did he say his physician ADVISED itY A. 1 dom
remember whether no did or not.
U On the journey was she nervous or excitedY A.
Very much shattered physically.
Y. Did any one 10 the Commodore's presence signify
dissent from tho propriety OF that Journey A.
never heard any ono do 80.
q How long aitsr her return did she go to the
asylum A. About u month.
O. Did you see Tho Commodore and wifc together
Thai month? A. l don't rccollecL
Y. Did you know the physician recommended mat
Ihe should stay while IN The asylum Tor medical
treatment and quicty A. remember u was family
alk | can't remember whether he iold me or not.
O. Did you make any objection 10 her going u tho
asylum a. did not.
Q. What asylum was its A. 1t was DR.. McDonad's
private asylum Ut Flushing
q She kindly cared for there, was sho not ?
A. Very.
q How long did she stay ,hercs A. About two or
three months.
q And returned TO Staten island9 A. No; TO Wash
q HAD the family then moved to town. A. Yes.
THE GovERNEss OR COMPANION
q DO you know tnat Mrs Horace +. Clark invited
: lady friend 10 stop with her there! A. DON'T
know.
o. Do you know that the lady who went thero was
MI associate or friend oi Commodore Vanderbilt's
daughter, LonisaY A. She was not until that time.
a. How DO you know thatY A. BY tho iact that
knew the fsmly ultimately ani should have known
II she was a friend oil theirs.
q DID you know whether Miss Louisa Vanderbilt
wus the riend and associate vt that Iadyf a. am
not aware that she was.
q We're present at anystmc when the young
lauy who went there was invited 10 90 there? A.
mas not
o. Did William ii. Vanderbilt ever tell you after
how she came to 20 thcrcY A Yes, ho told me IT
Was at his procurement.
q Where was tLisr A. don't remember
Y DID he tell you more tnan once. a. Not that
recolecL
q Aud nt the end OF thirty years your recollection
OF that once is vividy A. IL ~.
a. Did he tell you he had been present when she
was asked TO 20 there A. don't remember.
q Did you know she Was COUSIN OF Mrs w. H.
Vanderbilt? A. did.
a lr.tlu nj pf Ray Mr. KfaQa mi A
T. Did you urge any thing against her going theref
A. | dht not
q What did you mean by saying she went there as
governessg A. did not say
Y. Did you intend TO say she was q Cover ness
A. No, did not
Q. TINS young lady came there as a companion to
Miss Louisa, who TO be tho housekeeper, did
not! A. la that technical sense I was understood
that she was 10 DO u com panion.
q Did yvu visit the house while sho was theref
A. Not much that rccoliectY
q. Did you see her there at aY A. l did.