, 1877-12-30
Talk Between the Head Of the Nez
Perces and the Great Chief "
from Chicago.
The Red Brother Declares That He Has
Been Despitefuliy Used BY the
Great Father.

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"TclI me about It,"
II was In Lcavcnworth, and went out te
| Joscph's camp with Mr. E. c. Murphy, q week
ago Sunday, but it was raining, aud as the in
tcrprctcr, 4. j. Chapman, was away, I couldn't
converse wiki the Chief. But on the following
| Thursday went out again,
AND WAS SUCCESSFUL
| SHOW far Is the camp from Leavenworths"
'About three miles. The Indians are camped
/ on the old race~course."
Are there many OF them therein
"IGn tell you e1actly: ISL squaws, ST
braves, rs boys, and 10 girls-all Of the Nez
| Pcrccs."
| .'That isn't the whole tribes"
s'No. White Bird took eighty warriors and
1870 women and children, and Joseph's daughter,
IS years old, over to Sitting Bull in the British
| Possessions.
{ "Arc those in the camp happ-!"
| II can't say how that is. don't believe it,
| though"
| "Do the Government officers take good care
| Of thcm!"
THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY WANT.
But thcy are living in the sanc tepccs they had
when on the war-path. Chief Joseph is the
| only one who has wclltent. The others re-
| fused 20 take them"
'sDoes joseph live all alone?"
s.No- tic and one OF his squaws, and his
cousin, and papoose OF months cid, live in
the tent together. The child belongs to Joseph's
daughter.''
s1All have plenty to eat!"
"Ycs. Every papoose gets ration. Food
is issued for 31s.''
'sThey are having an easy time?"
'sThe braves do nothing. but the squaws chop
wood and bring it into camp. They haze the
run Of the country near BY. Some Of the var
VERY BADLY WOUNDED,
but they don't complain Bit"
"What did you see In the camp?"
ssLct mc till you what I saw before got
there-an Indian bath-tub. The braves take
It #" u is. : The Missouri ri as'' runs By By their
camp, and they have dug cut. a
hole about forty feet in diameter, and that;is
their tub. They let the water into it.. Then
they build fire on the bank, and heat stones
aud throw them in to take the chill oil the
water. and when it is right they jump i'll and
"What about the scenes in the canpa"
''The day was there was
LAMESrAT1oN DAT,
suppose You would call it; aud after that was
over. the braves had sort Of q Christmas fes-
tiyal. All their arms and horses have been
taken away from them. Joseph borrowed the
horse Of Chapman, aud he was dressed no yerv
hin all over except lis hips Interwovcn with
his tail was a feather three feet IonG. On
his head was q hood something like 'ay-
protector and at the top we're two horns-
Under his jaw were TWO small BELLS. On bis
back was Joseph Hc rode around the
camp. lie had no war-paint on, but
all the rest tad; and while he was making the
circuit the. women cried and yelled. never
heard such shrieks. Chapman told me they
were
MOURNING FOR THE BRAVES
who had been killed in battle. They kept 1t
I'D for some time after JUscph alighted frotu
the horse. Iwcnt into tcepe aud saw thirty
eight braves seated in 4 circle singing. Every
once IN while one would hold up feather,
and then the Others would sing louder. their
voices becoming gradually lower and lower, until
they we're Just audible. The holding up of tho
feather would start them again at the begin
ming. Chapman said 1t was Christmas cere-
mooy-a kind Of Worship"
tWere there no squaws in the tepeeln
s'Ycs-thrce; but they were in corner look
ing op:'' ,.-..-...-.---
ssAs TO THE TALK WITH 1osEPH?"
"Well, bad told Chapman that would teH
the truth il Joseph consented to an interview
that the whtes believed he and his band wer
murderers aud bad Indians, and went On til
war-path voluntarily simply for the purpose OF
killing the settlers and stealing thcir stock;
that, if that wasn't true, would tell the people
his band right before them. Chapman told
NIL this to Joseph, and he said he wanted to talk
with ME. So I went to where he aud his Cout-
cilors were, and hc made speech, every once
in a while striking himself on his left breast rs
IN Indication Of his sincerity. He addressed mo
us the
sGREAr CHIEF FROM cH1cAao,'
and said he had met INC but once before In that
country. That was the Sunday saw him. He
,:.i vto3 +r In 1S.YN hnf
would help his tribe, and tell the people OF the
friendly toward the whites. His people
not b:% bad ao;vca Or mqIserets hi ts;h Ine
to the war-path- Chapman said the same thing.
Tie has lived twenty-five years arnon:, the Neg
Perccs, and says they were Industrious and we'll
disposed until the Govcrnmcnt drove them OF
their reservation Joseph said the Great Father
(Sccretlry of War; had issued an order to him
10 90 to another reservation, aud Gen. Howard
told him that il he didn't yet rc,ly to move in
thirty days all bis stock Wotiil DC
CosF1sCATED. :;
Joseph attempted to comply, but White Bird
couldnt e1uit t 'o sct lis stock together within
the specified time And as he had to
leave, he moved off to Snake River, and, as he :,
had been driven to the wall ard most shame
fully treated, ho concluded to turn azound and
fight for his property. | asked Chapman why
Gen. Howard dill not prevent Joseph from
leaving, and he said that
GEN. HOWARD sTMpATuHED
Tith Joseph because he knew the order was
wrong, anu tina. it Mas not right to taSe thelr
homes away from tho Indians From what
Joseph aud Chapman said it seems to me that
Il rus an Outrage. After the talk was over,
1o,enb and all the Counciiors-there were nine
n ten Of thenl-shook hands with MT I told
hem that felt sorry for them, and that they
1a,l been u1isrcpre6ented-" -:
What docs Joseph want the Government to
lol"
she WANTS TO BE SENT BACK
0 his old farm. aud to take bis people with
Eim He has plenty OF muneY.n
What do the people Of Lcayenworth say Of
lis band?'
Il i talked with quite number Of them, and
hey said Joseph had been wrongcd: that his ,
ribe we're peaceablc, and Industrious when In
heir old homes"
us any effort to be made to bring back
White Bird and the others with Sitting Bulle"
"Yes. He will come back, and Chapman Is
ding after him. White Bird thinks Joseph
Us been hung, and Chapman is the only oDe
c will believe. Joseph gricEcs yerg much on
count OF the absence Of his daughter. AL the
nem to be so- but they want to 90 back to
heir old reservation, and have their homes re-
kored to them.'
THE W0RKlNGMEN. =.
NEWARK, NJ, Dec. 29.-The Worldng1nen's
ongress, In open session to-day, expelled two
,embers, Carl sayory and AcGrady, for join
,r +ho RanuhIfran y,arty md rnraF1refl presi-