, 1877-06-13
He Will Tell if Immunity Is
Guaranteed Him-Why the
Offer Is Refused.
4 Proposition to Fat him In Jail
for Contempt Cannot Be- En-.
tertained.
Other Witnesses, A11 Of Whom
Were Found Remarkably
Ignorant.
Why Pcriolat Wants All the Boys
to Employ tho Same
Lawyers.

The County Commissioners to 90 on
tho Stand--- Questions to Ask
Them.
The Grand Jury 20. down to work again yes
terday morning promptly At 10 O'Clock. Tho
attendance Of witnesses was larger than ever,
and the reporters were on hand In full force.
The first witness called was
r. J. SEXTON,
whose unsatisfactory examination had been cut
short tho day before by adjournment. His
testimony was brief and pointlcss, md Just al
unsatisfactory as 1t had been tho day before.
He denied in toto every allegation Of fraud, OF
Of paying the Commissioners any money.
directly or Indirectly, In the getting
Of contsactr, and, With peculiar twln-
klo ID his right eye, gave hfmsc1f
an unimpcachab1c character for general integ-
rlty, Leaving tho room, Ac would have nothing
to sny 10 reporters In Ills haste to rush to tho
arms OF tho Commissioners fur congratulations.
and to assure them that he had not only fallcl
to 'tsqueal' ~ on them, but that he had so SUE
cessfuIly lodged tho questions Of tho jury as 10
cvade compromising them in the least.
ARCHITECT cocnRASH
VAS tho next witness. Having been the archl-
tcct for tho new Hospital, and reports having
como to tho jurors cats In reference to Ills rela-
sions with tho statc-IIousn Commissioners.
which rcre Injurious to his reputation, be was
expected to know great deal In this tho jury
may not have been mistaken, but when they
calculated TINT he would toll what he knew
their reasoning was at fault, and they showcd
| at oncc that they were not acquainted with tho
/ nm {n mi I'M et1nFrv fnn1rk Init
| LIS ignorance Of everything was almost rn~
| cqualcu.
Tho next person piIo was called IN was Mr.
| Nehemiah Hfnaaale, WHO was indicted last week
for conspiracy to destroy testimony: TnE
| TRIBUNE published somc days ago intelligence
! OF tile fact tha. Mr. llfnsdale had cabbnEed
| number Of chetks which had been returned to
him by hta hanl;, and wci! hal upon them tell.
chcek-book tic stubs corresponding to those
same checks, and had stowcd them Away In
| priyato place possibly for future uso; .that ho
house or hid handed them over to Ills at-
torncy, Air. Nsed, M hostages and a nlctlge
| Of gonl faiL!,. After brooitng oTcr this tor
Tsck. TIC Grand jury DECIDED that ., II woud ! lo
el,ccks, and accordingty they sent Tor him and
| he cante. Mr.. lltnsdao was also anxtans to get
before tho Grand Jury, because no Wished to
biz indignation al lis haring been Indicted and
dcclaratcry nf the purity Of his motives and hte
confidence that he would bo acquitted. After
hc had hccn dnl5 sworn,
SAID to him: "Thp statement has been made,
Mr. Iintdalc, In one Of tho city papcrs, TuE
TKlausE, believe, publication from which
VIZ derive much ynluabio Information
pal out tbat sum q 81 80 to certain parties ID
certain checks, md that you Sub tcgucttly went
around to your bank, had your book written up,
and obtained possession Of those ehsska. Now,
$500 nr any part Of Il In sllccksl"
s.. sala i, Ar. Letter "Whefo arc those checks
y j destroyed tl,cm." replied Ar. ulnsdalc.
"Whcu I' asked Mr.. 1uitcr.
"When S!a' 'ras u ,.S sas eot + them bac&r'
"You swear positively that you destroyed
thc,nf"
"Ycs, Blr."
"Nhat was your object in doing sol"
"Wcll, they woe old checks which had been
returned aud werc through With"
"Tney aro destroyed also.'
"For tho sane reason that tho checks vcrc.''
"How, Mr.. 1fiusdale,'' continued the In
quisltor, lido you remember to whom those
clcckh wcre nude payab'et"
- do,'' said Mr.. ttnsdalc.
''Tteu will you plcasc state to tho Jury Tho
name or nsines Of taat person or those per-
~,;,;1. ;,Tsa.", !, :, replied s'' 1'tn.as' II feel un'
"po yey Rurusn 70 AKswER the QUESTION:"
queries! Mt. Letter.
"Yes. sIr, i DO refuse. except on conditions" !"
".Scyer mind the conditions" remarked sir.
,sg stiG Il. or T,, b,y yS' answer '.' question: without
a., "No. it,, Az s1td slr. 1ltasdale, "uos without
TSs;,xpea s M sts" H. E*ts EEse9ss s VI rdsss ds;s and
Wcbbcr, walked oil Into thc ante.roon, aud
lapec1 Into private consultation.
s Or, and Mr. Islte, s % asked ~ tss As'.tat ~ da
| and get from Judge Booth an order com
m'tting blr. t'lnsda1e to jail for ,e,ntcmpt
in refusing 10 answer tho question. MF.
Msnssr aouns - to tbs PoTfr o. s
had been indicted for having done something
which Was eloseiy connected With the question
ssked him, a'a.l u xss therefore, pronlenattcal
what was probably equivalent to directly Grim,
mating himself. However, f,1 said lie would "a
down and SEQ the Judge. state tho case To him,
'ps so hsy % osa 81 sa :s ss Z b. M1 ssje o.e vailed
In tho Grand jury rooE, and during BIZ absence
attempted to Get on hta defense, and began to
state to tho jury that he considered hnltelf I
whicI, he iai lived for lou years could not
DO 30 easily pcrsusdel Ut bis guilt ~ tho Gr.t,tl
Jury seemed to- tel!eyc. !fe MAS cut short
however, BY ~ observation from Juror Hal. t
which that orat!on should be addressed, apdn
the gentlemen before whom he was then sum.
moned for the purpose OF Answertng questions
] and not Of making speeches. i he declined tc
. hold bis tongue.
in tho meanwhile had talk With Judge Booth
Iio stated to bis Honor the lacts,-how Elinsdals
| had hHfn Indicted fCf rOnfRIf3cF tn dEAtFHy