The Morning herald., 1877-01-15
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II ~ Unissd States Dists.ct Court lass
vssk. Janss QuAgin, John b!ansoe ano
l(jeAaAl NeCaxty were conv1esed ioe a.ie9ee
yiolat3oa of tie election laws q the Cuitso
etatss. Previous 70 thsir cases oean& glve1
70 ~ Jury thsy ssverally made statements
IN vhieA they charged that during tneir In
priponnsnt at New Castle, since Novemosi
In, 1873, they had bssn cruelty treated ,and
70 ne their oWn language, - AIve1, uir',
apd lonsy." In order TO ascertain II there
vas any truth in the charges, . represent2
tiye Of the HERALD visited tie prison On
Saturday. On the arrival u New Castle
h vas informed that Sheriff Grubo was
n Vtluinstos, but Mr.. Herdman would
allov him 70 Inspect the prison. He called
Nr. Herman and informed him Of the OBJ
- Of tie Wit. Mr.. Herdman very kindly
snd politely gave him every opportunity 10
axamiue the pr con and ceuvsrse with the
prioonev. The first one interviewed was
ffank Carter, alias Big Frank, Who occu-
pies Cen No. Is. In reply to questions
asked him, he said his only complaint wss
sesinss solitary confinement, and At times
r almost crazy, being unable to get sense
ont of anything be reads: that he 10 treated
ven, every thing was clean, and provisions
rood and plenty of them, and those thai
Complain Of their food probably never mad
bstter, or - good, when outside OF the
walls: for . short confinement the beds
asd rooms are good enough, but when .
nan ia put In for . number Of years they
are entirely too smal.
The next prisnoer interviewed was
nomas Titus, who states that he is
treated well and cannot complain; the food
\ GOOD and clean, and NO one who VIII try
aud keep clean need be lousy.
Cen No, 3 was then visited; this cell il
occupied by three negroes, two of whom
say they do not get enough TO eat, while
tAs other one says they are fed well, and be
sets enough to eat, and Is perfectly clean
CGll No. IL is occupied By James
Quaxin, Joseph Fryor, John Branson and
Iichael NcCarty, United Stases prls-
eoers, between whom and our reporter the
following dialogue took place:
Reporter-Do you get enough to eat and
Il the story you told IN the court true.
NcCarty-What We SAID in court Is true:
We do not get enongh to eat.
Reporter-Why did you refuse to secep;
Nr. Charles B. Lore as yoar counsel!
NcCarty-I did not refuse to accept him.
Reporter-Yes you did, for Ar. Lore and
Mr.. NcIntire went to you twice and you AID
Brspson replied, We don't want him.
Dranson-We thought It the best policy
~ to have alswyer.
Reporter-Did anyone tell you it would be
bess for you not to have an attorney.
NeCarty-We were not told by any per-
son, but thought if We had An attorney We
might be sent to jail for number ofyears,
- Iswyers, sometimes, do more harm than
good, and We were in their clutches, (mesn-
Ing the e. g. onlcers), and wanted TO &c,
out easy - possible.
Reporter-Did Mr.. Nc1ntire AK Bransor
and AcCarty if they wanted counsel'
Drandon-Yes, he asked me.
NcCarty-Yes, he asked me, but We die
not know Who Lore WAS.
At this point of the conversation, dinner
consisting of bear, soup, and good bread VA
brought to them, and they were given al
shey wanted, when AcCsrty remarked the,
ave changed the dinner hour to-day.
Reporter-Did Marshal Dunn advise Vol
to make the statement, you did in court!
McCsrty-No he did not.
Reporter-What was he whispering to 20,
in court at the time you refused connseli
McCarty-He said he would tell us whel
to make our statement.
Reporter-Then he was aware that yol
were going to make the statement you did
Branson-Oh, yes, he knew 1t.
Repofter-Did any one tell you what Il
ssy'
Reporter-How WAS it that Quagin Al
Bra1son told the same story, word for word
Quagin-We made 1t up in prison AM
learned It BY heart; We thoRght it would e
more easy with us, If We made that state
ment.
Reporter-You tell me what you have u
complain Of.
NcCarty-There Are too many of u il
one cell. We do not get enough TO eat
Nr. Reporter, you put In your paper that
three fees long.
Reporter-You SAY YOU made up you
story In your cell.
SOkXiu-"C WAAACA AR oASA AoVb AZ
room In the Custom House, studying wha
yarn 10 tell
Our reporter then visited Wm. ]
Mcdaniel, eolored man, who states be ha
plenty to eat, and ifa person gets dirty sD
lousy, it il their own fault, ss they hav
plenty of soap and vater 10 wash them
selves with.
Another cell containing four eolored ne
Wa visited, ana they confirm the stat.
nent Of Mcdaniel that they get enongh
eat, and are perfectly cleAs, and have
change of clothing; one exhibited cles
suit Of clothes, and remarked, If any pel
son eets lousy here 1. is his own fault
Cell No. IS WAS then visited. The occ,
PANTS of which are John Pierce, Robe
Harris and another colorel man. One
the prisoners has been In prison for the pa
fifteen months. They are universal IN the
praise of Sheriff Grubb, and state ths. th