The New York herald., 1877-10-26

the outlay and the estimates. Tho city government
has never been a unified, responsible thing"
CIVIL SERVICE REFORM
"How would You go to work TO rcarrangs this city
and start u afresh n wcrc the prce OF your 70.
lcasc2"
''l should adopt the civil service policy, said Mr.
Tweed. 'rnere is earthly policy 10 Strengthen out
tho abuses oil patronage but strict civil service. Ia
defect oil course, Is to put sort of arisocracy the
public Offices When mold thor positions indc
pendent OF politics thcy apt 10 get ht,c lofty
But tho evils OF patronage, as every politician must
encounter them In New York, are ese mcurable I
carrying payroIls of $4,000 year for persons
who old nothing all. No adequate service is given
hero for official salaries Few OF these persons who
getting $500 and S. 900 year earn 81 900
In any other business. They arc In others way
and arc quarrclling as who shall do the work. II
they worked in merchants stores they would have TO
60 down town At O'Clock eight O'Clock, and,
with an interval OF halt hour for dinner stay Ia
tho storc until six at night and in the business
remain nntu nine They go public oficcs by
noon ana so AWAY at tour O'Clock. Tho consequence
is enormous expense. When l began TO keep horses
l bought two and hired Then bought
another horse and hired two men, and 90. loss
vice than when had one man. The passion TO get
Office has become national in America, and u 10 ab
eurd 10 DO a politician under existing conditions
without holding plenty Of patronage. We broke
selves down and injured this city by extending our
patronage 10 the reach for influence aud powor."
'Havc you paid any attention, Mr.. Tweed, to the
debate civil service reform now raging around tho
federal govcrnmentYr
81 have, and It is geca: question SEQ no otjcc.
ton 10 that system, except dlsturbs politicians.
We certainly get better service ut less cost under
that system"
"When you held much power you
tempted do personal injustice-scnd a man TO jail
TO got him ont Of the way. for cxampIes"
mo- tho fact is wc wcrc hot conscious that We held
so much power. can look back ana the
things could have dono which never struck me at
that time pertinent possible. Our power 30
called always prccariously held; our revenues
Wctc uncertain nuo nltunRi tue grccu uciow US ass
up faster than any greed OF our own"
PERSONALITIES
Mr. Tweed expressed his opinion Of Andrew H.
Grccn tna.. except in money matters, hc was not to
be trusted, and had been dcmagsgue ever since no
became ambitious In politics.
or General sickcs he said that no was q good
scncmer, but had tho defect OF hating somebody or
somothing all tho time.
Mr. Tweed gave an amusing account OF how Dick
Bustccd, through tho conu,vance oi Fernando Wood,
scklcs for Corporation Counsel at tho close Of
Mr. Shepherds term. .'Busta.d was always blow.
cr." said Tweed, "and II very amusing TO him
beat smart Dan Sicklesp
OF Isaac Fowler Mr. Tweed spoke respectfully
bulldog up tho democratic party. He lent thu
arst 81 500 which wc ever used 10 brbo a vote.
Fowler" added Mr. Tweed. ''was the frat OF the un
| for,unatcs; but ho was good follow."
| Of politicians In gonorai Mr.. Tweed said:-..rnoy
have gratitude In tho nature OF their pursu. tncy
cannot be cxpectcd to navo any. To-day they
me, tho next day John Kelly, and the day after that
somebody else. am oiten IN need Of tho smailcs
service from persons whom havo greatly benefited
In my examination have needed them to givo m,
help in some slight matter OF recollection or memo
randum, but most OF them afraid TO hcra
whom returned IRON Europe tho newspapers sent
thor cards in. II would have boon impoiitic to see
them that tinc, and then abused refusing
Mr.. Tweed, in response to question about the
annoyance Of begging letters, &c, "Clcrgymcu
Of all denominations wcrc persistent applicants for
Office and subscriptions fran when had influence
here But that l am In jail every matt brings
mo begging letters n st,ll ablo to maintain
large part OF tho population"
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These some OF tho many rapid reflections OF
| Mr. Tweed, ami no said as 60 tnat no was
not tired OF any senslbo questions len him stand.
Ing in the door, his smallIsh blue eyes, close To-
gcthcr lighting up with n certain kindness his dusk,
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