The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-06-27


Is though things ought to take shape Every
thing Bishop Lunt tells you will BIO smooth ana clean.
but you ought to know some Of tho things NO have
actually endured"
HORRIBLE ATROCITIES
Tho speaker then went on, in very much the same
style that OF speakers the Mormon Church ros-
rums. to tell his story. He was followed BY Others
including two of the women who SAT II appeared
that two present had been also present at the
Mountain Meadows and OF them told this
story:-He said that one OF the murdered women
among the emgrants carried her child In her arms.
and, holding 1t up before her toward Mormon who
advanced upon her, pleaded pcously for its life Tho
Mormon. whose knife already red with the blood
OF several Victims actually spitted the infant upon It
and held it, squirming its death agonos before the
eyes Of the fainting mother.
relate in this connection another incident OF the
told to S. H. Gilsou who regarded here as
the valuable detective OF Mormon atrocities who
ever came into Utah. While tho slaughter gong
young girl OF some sixteen years approached one
OF the Mormon soldiers boy about her own age and,
clasplns her hands within two or three ieel OF him,
begged him not kill her. The wretched young ia
natic told her he do as no was commanded. But
her face her tones, persuaded him to rcent, and he
cndcavored 10 save her At tho moment the boys
father camc up behind him with cooked revolver and
Orucreu the boy 10 SnOOt INC pOcr young glrI. lHc
youth bravey refused. whereupon tho father reaching
with his revolver tho boys shoulder shot the
maiden dead AT the Same moment this vicious speci-
men OF Mormon parent exclaimed to his son
II wish the shot had taken both OF you'll
The eldest OF the two women present told, among
other things the story OF her experience years
ago, when her husband, compelled by sheer perjury.
left Cedar City Salt Lake TO earn for himself and
family livelihood At the timo the settlement called
Cedar City had in accordance with the ''counsel' OF
Brigham Young, been removed up TO its present site,
from the protection Of pasade on lower ground far
ther away from the mountain. few families con-
tnucd to reside within tho paIisadc, where this woman
occupied small board house. One afternoon, as she
said she visited in this lonely dwelling by another
woman from tho new settlement who told her that
she expected her husband would probably be killed
that night.
phase OF "Mormonism." which is illustrated for the
hundredth time by this story.l
DEATH FOR pisoBEDIENcE.
The husband Of tho visitor was, according to the
account put TO death because OF his dsobedirpce
to s'counsel' in where his freedom of speech
threatened tho safety OF the principal Mormons IN the
community The man was already prisoner. He
had told his poor wife OF his plight. and sho visiting
her ricnd announced to her, aud actually, before
the expected deed was committed began to converse
about the arrangements for funeral Moro than this,
while the women were talking together message
came by boy sent by the husband. stating that he
was on his way to the place where he expected to
his death, and giving direction in regard to the
undcrgarncnts he TO be buried in. SO well under
stood was it that death decree thus decided upon
was final that that the wife did not dare to 80
anywhere and protest against it. So dulcd we're and
ara ha pagcions Affections of
antry subject to this priesthood.
UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
Surfeited with tales like these and with accounts
from several who present OF their miserable dull
lives questioned them about hcir present plans and
prospects. Those who doem it true that ''Mormonism
it was'' does not still exist in Utah will take the
following colloquy which transcribe from an excel
lent memory, iAto their consideration. / addressed
tho man who first spoke thus
ssYou have told me all these things and you say now
you are dissatisfied I would like TO know to what
extent you dissatisfied. Why don't you state your
feelings openlyY, Why don't you and great many
others down here who are grumbling make your
grievances known to your bishops and stand up for
your rightsH In fine, Why don't you do as
other people do who feel themselves injured and az
erieved-that is, make fight about IL? Why mako
so secret matter OF a conversation like
thisg You all look scared and afraid speak OF
things l have heard something OF Mormonism on my
way down South, but did not think IL had made men
and women afraid TO speak their thoughts and tell
what they had to tell openly"
At this the grizzly old Mormon who first accosted mo
rose from his feet aud said:-
"You don't know us yet; you don't understand
circumstances; you don't see how We fixed here;
you can't know how poor we are We tell you, sir Il
believe speak Tor all tho brothers and sisters here)
that We would get out and 60 somewhere else II we
could. How Gun do II We haven't money enough.
Why know lots OF tho brethren who would go II it
wasn't tor three In the first place, nobody
but the bishops, their courseors and few others
have mucn money here. We never get anything but
what we get or from our fields and our gardens to
1.-Two on. And even il we had the to cmigratc,
where should we 90 and how could settle down !?
What assurance would have that could earn our
lyings anywhere outside of Utahg Am | right,
brothers and said the speaker turning toward
the stove."
There was general buzz of talk and assent for
few minutes.
A currMoAT JOKE.
Snow, tell you, sir" the old Mormon resumed.
sthat not going TO give ourselves away to you
or any other man. You have hoard US like gentle
man, and, whatever you find out about us, you amt
going to write any names. You pretty curious
about the Numbering and all that, that going
around this place for long while. You've talked
about obcying counsel ! suppose may we'll tell
you that II any OF 'counsellcd to cut your
throat before you went out OF that door tonight he
would dol as sure as you are alive
This brutal piece OF chat seemed to be grmly APP
proved by those who sat around Further convcrsa-
ton, OF peculiar interest, lasted until nearly half
past one when, parting from the singular CIRCLE l
repaired, accompanied part of the way by the aged
Mormon described to the gate OF Bishop Lunt's house,
and thence assembled to my chamber.
ARCHBISHOP BAYLEY'S ILLNESS.
For abou, fifteen years the Catholic Diocese OF New.
ark mad its spiritual head RICH, Rev. Bishop Bayley,