The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-06-01
A TALK WITH THE PROPHET.
brigham In-tructinr the Hon. FIJI Perkins In
the Mysteries of VI ormonism.

Young the prophets fayorito son. and Daniel
ii. Wells first Mormon councillor were also
present. Brigham Young is now 10 years old.
hale. hearty. and strictly temperate. though
little nahby from scdcntary habits. John w.
YOUNG IN n young man. say 30. handsome. ana
accomplished. liz is very much beloved by all
the NIormons. md will undoubtedly succeed to
the Presidency at the death OF his father. which
will probably occur within the next ten years
Ills Only rivals are Joseph I. Smith. son OF Jo-
seph smith. the founder OF Mormonism. who
was shot dead 10y the mob in Carthage jail near
NauVoo. ILL.,. in 1914. and John Taylor. who was
wounded by the mob ut the same time. Jo-
scph Smith and his brother. Hyrum Smith.
were both instantly killed. John Taylor is
venerable sllver-ha man OF the Andrew
Jackson type He IL bold aud aggressive. hnv-
ing hrcn stoned and shot ut for his faith, in both
Missouri and Illinois, Daniel II. Wells is
shrcwd. quiet man; Perhaps his having SIX
| wives and several houses fun OF children has
had n soothing cfIrct ON his nature Daniel ia
Brighams chief counsellor. u sort Of Attorney
General to the Prophet.
Brigham Nunng y held IN great dcierence ny
his people. when he speaks every wife child.
and dis 'iplc keeps quiet ana siuroH AT MN WIN
a look of sacred ycncration. Ordinary plat.
tudcs coming from the mouth OF the pruphrt
are listened to ny II they came from the mouth
oi Mos = himself No on ever diners with
. Brigham. No ono replies; but there hr sits be,
lorV h's wives. chillrrn. and disciples. and
/ WITH strange. wandering gestures. such rs ZIP
Van W nklr used when irving To- recocct mot
l dents winch pusscd twenty years before. iecl-
ins t,io air with his fingers, he hnli prca he's
, ana half talks ut random. Ilo ia very mctaphy-
sical and very mysterious. Corner him in an
argument and NJ las a cunning way Of beios-
-" DID YOU over SEE the gold plates which tho
angel showed 60 Joseph smith IN Mnn,he-irr.
/ Mormon rrNrlltiOn-t" | asked.
/ IN. never saw tne Iais.' said the prophet.
, " " hat hr. anne OF thrWt'
ION. trey putihom ua X in the ground again"
Now 90 YOU r,Gily believe oil these nngrl-
gold plate stories. Mr.. Young q asked. smiling
p '"It.ii yon. Mr. Perkins. there are great
= many trur things in this world TINT we g. not
4, uulO r~taul. DO YOU sec that rose bush 2 he
. continued. Dr.. Mt NJ to roS" bush ly Inc door
y way. "Mhsrgdo lis col n and odgr and taste
know. SIN. YOU know tney ~ -. Nou know"
d, and the prophet my-teriously waved his hand.
r AMI. ke canaan Cutie sailed OIL into meta
= Tho Mormon Church is governed by three
ID. Firsi-Breham Young. President and auto
II crn,. ,
w. ham himself John M; and Daniel II. Wells
d Vhrd,ih s'r9nd pp2rnmr cqnsi'ilng OF
w r, PHI e' o S2Hn gA,t Br' r7'I9
m uu'' Jr.. Joseph 7. Smith. g..
4. H,tuw tHwsgn, woo married two Of Brig
l- ham lounEs dtu- i,i'Is' max nE ~ ,plA-
Al PIGMENT ot four wives. II Acuinri Con
w oral of thN Territory and the father ot
"A . 90 tWtnty--rN,n beautiful cullurcn. BflEhuin
n himself tells me THAI ho has fort, i.N" children
~ am hNr'n wv"s living an' mvre granN'hi J,
D. drrn than hH can remember. When nsk'd
al L,IA what " - bis rhiri policy nnd nmiltlon IS
X heal oi thr Mormon Church. b" r"p.i'l:
m NN policy IL t'' pa" ana prosperity ~ the
II Mormon people-to increase IL numbers and
y" " s0w fast are YOU increasing? ?" askcl.
r. We double "n D.. ia 81 \ yelis now. TODAY
IN said Oh" ~ phrl, We have l5uun y. rmons
1iH"s n IN l ""S 4 e," s i'y ,eS r @a
10 dNy 30 no war Is mad" ON Us. We wil have
- srunnn npln. and in twelve years that Is. in
n $500 vs. W 4 have 6ooNlO people. W. have now
M thirty iu 'orIuraiNd cities, tir'r MILLION dollar $
~ W.iil ~ irri-itI M canals 35s holl houses ~
D. 81 less of D. Z
"a ,.r..- = % inii.- 81 railroads t.l.ratn- AN
"A oNrrlAr larriilly. amt t'ntl = hullt ana ~
~ E'-'iI. our ni.-s.af.,r,.s .'rl NJ B ol1 mi.
n giants every NDr. and cur ,''i' r. iupi p" many
hunHi"i n.ty' In ems ana receive them into
IL v id',yo'i uiN ise your peolls todo."
W.. nnnt uu"iN uiN go in'W q 'nlu'nt" smnl
%. t.rn- keep ont Of law. never quarrel VIII
- Mormon ~ Gentle, ana make everything the,
IL Taen you never want to fight the United
M % y YER Our poll is peace. Wal. would
~ wini uO 90 ho tried for the MuuntuIn Meadow
De arrest u, 1oh. SUR. W. have 2o.ooo harmless
10 militia w. hay artillery and cavalry lnst o.,
., r.iliia s us harmless los your = yenth X ;i
NJ. mont Il necessary w. VIII nsAt Tor the nas-
W. "Eutth Mormou- are armed 2"
50 W eur rr.i' ar ron.erso nr,y are a.
f.
90 among cur p.n p.r; far eyrrv pioneer q inks h'
ed uoed- % gun az much ~ q man n"''i- "a ho"i
t,c los riti5'n- Of IN" Untod stats. Ii lis ju-
NJ mn n our duty o. arm and keep NJ ou
drIns an T .a as ihap 4S NV Easanicr
do. Il the seventh Regiment Is patriotic. 50 nr'
'A P pqrradcs Sew YoTrk suppo9s s3@r tool q
Fw .an HoSG. Eat he Nsw YorS srs wrT
Y drilling an urmiue. and then an the n"w-pa
m pers SHOULD make "A hullauaoo about IL, rs In
~. W1'dh has about our boys training Does no
ia the Cuu-i tuition make 1t lawful for cN"ry citi
G' IN To bear arms Are We Mornons in IN
N, Union or out Of il p and the prophet grey
h.. clio iurnt with patriotic emotion.
~, When viii Utah become state, Mr.. Young?
ir. nsked, changing the subject
b".ii We are twi'e as large Ms Nehraska. Coorado
ed and Nevada were but they are airaidto make VI
m "a'Wwbbvgo
he Es'aase." s , The prorMRet "thc Mormon
0of Governor, and drive out all the gnn hl"rs an
iii shut ny t4e drnEns, saloons ! be . scpir tee
~" saloons are concentrating our poople, The
iii an protected now by The United States Courts.
$50 III Umh were a state you would lesaz
H. polvgnmy " remarked inquiringly.
-h Or course we w9nlI conlrol our own r.
n1 miles through a d, sert country To- ENJOY our ~
II hgi,n; nnd why shoudn "" do II -
M United Statr, law in practising pOlygamy p
IN his nyo. Sratnr tra,.in If NV IIHmH.I ir
~ a. lave two wives. This was to XIII pOygnmN
i, But along eame the United States courts an
49, kill,d Ssuutor Cragin 10y deciding that An
ftr EIlIt wash "A wife, but only mistress In fac
10 Congress passed law, making II unlgwiu tod
I'M what the courts decide can't be done. Tn
VI" Ia is" continued the prophet. nothing ga
thn oyer prevent q man living with us many wome
20 i- he likes. II they want 10 come ami nv. wit
81 him, they can come, and Ho law canDreNent il
al Then you think pobGamy vii! 30 on n
,,s croasingf ~
liz "Crranly. My people nre honest, thriit'
YER sober. industrious, ana rellslouS me l.ot
, has blessed rs from the cOmmrn cement. pers,
a| cutiun has only kept rs together. No cnlamit
,ilc '''' iult " " ~ NV, ii'i'ii' a. W. w.
ne divide Us up. But rs long - We are persocutct
"a W. viii continue to thrive
W.. In my minglngs with tho Mormons | I'm
.rn that Ioygamy Is becoming unpopular with IN
$3.50 rlu 'dtrd rl"ss of Mormous. Brighum'- younl
f.. ,at daughters say they viii not marry ma
I'm WHO has two wives, and me same with Hyrui
M. Claws u 3 daughters. Wealth and culture wi
IL kul IolvEamy. IL nothing olar II the secon
u,. wives ara m stresses rs has been decided !
.y- the courts. ana their children urgtimalr. pr
the rTltIurft of IrNurrtN. YOU ciu ~