The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-04-22


lbcciinsa ior III same ressonsl
pd yea 'oss Ans money 10 him Al plays same
y - you ply any games for large stakes with h,m
any sshsf psrfo1ss tDcclned.l
NJ f~eed thea asked Substantially the same
s1ss,enx 9Th RESPECT 10 ex-senator winslow, and he
gave he same answer. admitting thai ne knew HIM
snd hsa hsid conversation with him. bot declining TO
ssy ~hsiher ansre had been any underhand trans
action bet~sen then. lie denied that 10 fur
s.sssa any porton % The matter printed The World
s.tsd no communication With any reporters or any
tsw.paper n.sn 10 an shape lest should be nsrcp
masorune 70 . man N trouble" Ito declined TO say
~Asthsg be ever hsd sclsiscl undsrssandingn with
mary - rwesd confesson. AL also 10 tate Whether
y kss~ az = Ihsm 10 have been p4'd for his vote IN
= "A sran aAsnsss
WA regard 70 Au&hJ y. Hastings Mr.. Tweed asked
ssres = gssssoas smilaf - tnsss employed IN tho
e@se - MI woDisn. ana gave similar ropsx All his
aas~srs would tena tlake ths eominltles believe
..si hs kss~ great deal more THAI cared toll
fAsss saessoss Mr. T.ss sal VIA Ma ss lss
nis f,ght kbes. his chair tilted back has
respectfully csol.nea - whether ne had ever
Pa NJ hastln&s sAy mensy hr.s ior The act
'efsn 10 has preliminary st.isn,enl
po>p 90 frN.
ssszor Carpenter thea turned his attention 70 Mr..
a bartsE lhs sslsffoxA,os spoke Of him az az"
20 h,is plsssssry "a rsssra 20 shs ms,sKs ii ixs
lttis lan. /" 10 sad "loo have bad tut little OF 10
lately. M fvsss" ss,d senator sprasue Precious
istts tee l~xt Ave years." be rspisd ssbut 4 have
ses yss io.' 40 capacity isr enjoyment. and
sss' w,s az ss,. great ss.i a, my
VIA Ls sp~ct.ses iarshead .nd both hands
IA his ueasers pscxsts besmed upon the ssssmbiasc
toe Eefiect plctarc ~ tolliy and sood nAsare Mr..
Barssf he said bad srsn pspssy Clerk % As-cssmsnss
70 wheA pssssson he ga sppssnsi " charss A. Corr
ncA Mr. I~rea had. boa sser, retained aim oilcs
fof q considerable time Barpsr Was In Albany
waen TITO h<ssre tho Legislature. aud
.esk ~ .ssys %. 20 .asessa.sg q. NJ iss.d sas
aad has hnsnek fansaefiehs that nad applied
the Of wosan sad ne deelred 10 then Tor
tbs fe.son-Arsi, thai would 10 against pubiic
posey and seconsly. because BY answering he might
CO inmate ntnseiL
- aeeiinsa answerine the same questions whom put
regarding senator James Pierce. Of Brookiyn. asd
James a. kins, and assigned shs Same OH rsasonA
QCicK
Ia reply TO questions o. senator Bradley Mr. rwced
TESTIFIED thai tLs charter than days
before ihs Legislature until - passed Il was miro
Y. a. tha. ~hs. - known as tho Tweed charter. A.
y. We're there other persons than those yoa have
mentioned VINO were meiausrs Of the Legislature ad-
vocsing Ne passagef A | atn not aware that have
know; there were other persons Than members in.
tcrestcd, decline 10 answer whether any money
u. DO you know person ~ iss name 81 csrvsys
A. | know man named Garvey; know two.
named Andrew aud another named Joan; decline 10
answer whether be cxered himself 10 procure the
passage oi the charter; there "pooi' made
secure tho passage oil che charter but decline say
VINO subscribed 10 u aud how much u what
done with tho money.
.. DO you know man named James u. inscrsolis
A. do; bus decline 70 answer any questions about
4. DO understand you 70 decline 10 answer any
4 do air: nj ,he prescn. ,,me. When The proper
time comes, aud before the proper tribunal. win make
thorough and complete statement aud this. think,
will best scbscrve the puoic interests
InE nIckLknkEEr cHAErER.
Mr.. Tweed stated that besides the charter In ques.
In 1901 called the "iuckiebsrry charter" beng
asked why called he replied he did nes
season and went OUT early lLaughssrJ Ths
Chairman then put series 81 questions regarding tho
ss "ao puo's1s1 about aash hsss. and me
already given, declined 70 answer II decnnc." hs
SAID 80 say whether ! saw wooaIn or b.. ssea,s
snco Tho 10th Of this month; also. whether Efforts
were made 70 have tho publication oil .he article re-
Tho chairman hero produced tho record with Mr.
Tweed's testimony IN 'hs investigation Of senator
Tho CHAIRMAN read extracts 70 tho effect that
Tweed knew OF no money ever being pa,o 10 rsrus-
lican Senators MI Tweed refused 10 answer me
questions, saying tnas he remembered nothing about
Q. Have you any documents In yosr possssslea. Mr..
Tweed, relating 10 the subjecs matter VI nvesss
= Doyou know Of any persons who afford the
committee any information this nzissrf A. l
most respectfully decline to answer.
2. What conversation did you have on this charter
with senator woodiny A. decline 70 answer.
T. Da&ir ~ Know tha, the rcrue''- sg-ss q III
Stssc asaisd 10 favor OF passing the ncgissry law
then before the Housey A. l Dcilevc
u Was there = nsultReiou between the republican
ana democratic senators tho Charter and Rsgis
try billy A. believe 50. and heard that the passage
OF the Registration b was part Of the consideration
charter known rs the Tweed charter.
Y las senator woodin or any Of his agents ever
called on you since you have been In Ludlow street
JailY A. decline TO answer
q Has any one, within the past year. spoken to you
about his liability 70 DO Indicted Tor his connection
offctal sir.
Q. Who do you mean by public oac,ais A. Any
hola nQira "A sal.
State county.
Q. DO you include tho members OF tho senate and
LcgslaturoY A. Yes; by public Official l mean every
gentleman holding any Official position at present.
[Some Misrepresentation existed regarding several Of
answers corrected the record Il might DO FAXED
up, you know. no said In seven ten years. aud DO
ude TO read IN = wrong hight
q DO you include Ia lhc term 'Gentemen who were
In oGce' or members Of tho Senate NJ the time OF the
charter passingy decline TO state with regard
the Scnatc decline 10 state whether any person
persons. as alleged, approached ON tho liability Of
their being indicted connection win the pas
sage OF the Tweed charter
q Was Hugh Hastings in Albany about tho time tho
charter was passedY A: believe no was; I believe
his paper the Commercial Advertiser. favored tho pass
sage OF the charter; decline To whether had
any conversation regarding the charter with hun; no
was up and down there all the tima
T. Havc you talked with any persons other than
with your counsel to your course be pursued IN
this lnvcsiigatony A. spoke with my friends and
O. With any city ollcialss A. 1 decline to answer
q Have you stated TO any that you would not
answer any questions 10 this committee until the Om-
nibus bill passed A. l hav. not: decline to
answer whether any check Tor SO, 00o gwen TO
Hugh Hastings
q DID you lend Mr.. Hugh Hastings $40 oo) 70 pur-
chase his house No, SIR; don't know anything
about MIR. Haslings' private affairs
O. II such . check WA gwen Mr. Hastings would
you know what u was INTENDED Tor Y A. | decline 10
answer; decline TO answer whether | employed Has
tiugs Tor legislative purposes.
Senator schoonnakor-Mr Tweed, you have stated
In this examinalion that you have stalcnent Ia tho
hands OF the Attorney General DID you make prop.
oston yourself IN the hrst Instance 10 such =
staiementy
Mr.. Tweed-Wcil, shortly after my arrivai-I sup
pose this - Kind vi stofythe day alter my arrival
communicated with Mr.. Townsend and asked him 10
call upon me- my family MIN and asked him. aud
the day no uid then told him that lTera Of
mine had had an interview with Mr. OConor aud
thought might DO able ~ make an Arrangement by
telling oil knew and giving up all 1 had become
once more a free man; Mr.. townsend advised me 10