The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-05-16
THE STATE CAPITAL.
Arguments for and Against the
Omnibus Bill.
ALDERMANIC OPPOSITION
The Governor Aims Another Blow
at the Ladies'
LEGISLATION
Republican Squabble Over the New
Appointment.
[By TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.


ALBANY, May ID 1877.
The discussion OF the Omnibus bill was transferred
again to-day 10 the Executive Chamber aud the Gov
was given another opportunity OF hearing what
tho friends and Toes OF tho measure have to say about
IT, There were some twenty persons present. among
them being Henry L. Clinton, Augustus Schell, john
IT, Strahar Corancr Flanagan, Alderman Cole, Alder
man Purroy, General Splnoa. Peter Mitchell aud
John II. Mooney, The man who has been chiefly
instrumental in arousing opposition to the bill
The drst persons to speak three members OF the
Mechanics aud Builders Association They pro-
tested against tho section giving the control OF the
Building Department TO the Fire Department. aud
asked that Il be kept where Is Thcn Henry l. Gin
ton came strong the unconstiluional,y Of the
bill Strahan defended It against thar charge. Nit
choll spoke dsparagement OF H. aud Sche made light
OF the provision for spring election rheGovernor
was silent tombstone all the time, and nohGg in
the expression Of his features indicated the purpose
lis mind this famous hill but thowscacres INSIST
their opinion, chat be Ylt impae u on the sharp
point OF u veto. J.4essa -, - X Drl,s - its5,
Horny L. Clinton rccountcd the history Of the
Tweed charter as an instance ot how deceptive
apparently good measures may BE-. His opposition
to The present bill prompted by the feelings
with which he opposed the Tweed charter The OBJ
joclions that nearly every section Is uuconsttu
iional. The constitutional article providing Tor the
appointment OF ofccrss directly violated, the city
under provision has the immediate power Of APP
ponincnt OF the heads ol the departments He
quoted instances wherein tho Court OF APP
poals had rendered decisions 10 that effect
In the case OF Tho People against Bull
the Court had held that the extension Of
Justices term oy the Legislature was fraud
upon The constitution. ScclI0us 20 and rs OF the
bill relative 10 charities and CORRECTION and 10 Tho
police commissioners are unconstllutionai under tins
u.,.s nhna tAfHh an
They take away tho power Of The cly appoint The
heads OF those COMMISSIONS, and could win Just
members OF tho Assembly from tho city districts. He
declared The books are iul Of cases bearing out this
argument
meat OF Docks IN the Department OF Public Works.
aud transfers certain duties from the Pack Commas
Sloners, he declared thai also TO b. unconstitutional
us abolsning department he head OF which should
be appointed by the city The Legislature may with
equal norge all tue nine departments
into one and under head AS general merits
Of the I'LL be CONVINCED that 1t was inl OF errors
The proposed appointment by the Mayor solely,
without approval by the Aldermen, IS corrupt sys-
TEN iustitn cd by the Tweed charter, and had for
long Time frustrated the progress OF reform II was
power the patriots OF tho Revolution HAD
scented 10 glvo TO George Washington. II should not
be said thai The Aldermen could not be trusted lilo
rememnerea ma me RAM ana d nle VINO occ. aae
reform during The war upon Tweed he showed al length
the nrlcaccs Of tho Tweed charter, by which aopar-
entity commcndahlo clauses were rendered in0peTatvc,
and quoted certain clauses IN the Omnibus bill which
had evidently been taken from the Tweed charter. All
the evils which New York city has been subjected
have the results OF evil Legislation al Albany, and
always in tho name Of relorM lie made strong pei
Grafton IN favor OF self government Tor city and
ended by hoping the Governor would veto tho bill
ARGUMENTS fAvoRiAG THE MEASURE.
Mr. John II. strahan replied 10 defence OF the oil,
was not responsible Tor II IN Its present shape. lie
denied the unconstt ionay OF the provisions oil no
before tney were drawn. So lar as taking away the
power OF appointment from the city the bill appointed
NOBODY. He did not believe the allegation that certain
provisions OF the bill drawn from the Tweed
charter good argument tor IN hs belief, no dollar OF
the piunder OF the Ring had ever been obtained
BY reason OF any authority gwen IN tna charter The
Common Council provision was rot taken from the
Twcca charter but from The report OF tue Governors
Commission on Clues, as well as many oil The other
important provisions OF the Dill
Mr. Cln.on asked II Mr.. Stranan was responsible for
the provision relative 10 street openings.
Mr.. Sirahan replied that he was mol, ana Dcevcu ~
should not be III tho bill al all.
MITcnkLL's VIEWS.
Mr.. Peter Mitchell gave history OF the passage o.
the bill IN the Assembly. When tic bill was discussed
there was strong opposition among tue New YORK
delegation to the provision rclalivs to the FIRE De-
partment ana 0iher provisons but they were do
barred from discussing the greater part OF the bill be-
cause OF tne parliamentary tictics oil the majority
Tho non-partsan character OF the Police Com
mission lie believed to be great evil ms
live six captains oil police who have been guilty
of malfeasancc and brutality navo tailed
their dismissal because there always party DIVISION
for ald az inst any penalty. The Two Commissioners
who arc 10 be retained ~ the bill are republican and
u quasi democrat the latter beng General Smith, VINO
represents organization, and VINO has the Shortest
TO serve, while those who have the longest terms
against the Fire Department The authors AMI advo-
Gates OF the bill have had but single purpose IN lis
passagc-,o discr inmate IN !avoEof men IRON whom
thOy hope 10 get patronage .4 t..
AUGUSTUS sCAELL's OPPOSITION.
Mr.. Augustus Schcli said no could not remember to
have socn any reason why this bill bad been passe
except the score OF economy, the bill SAVING
some S2UO.00O Ter annum. III regard to tho spring
election he said that had these people calculated the
q
tina, 500 900 would DO but mere drop IN the bucket
toward the payment OF ils legitimate expenses As to
the policy OF the spring election, he sall
from 1888 1s49 spring elections had been held
and tho citizens paid little % no attention 10 the Issues
upon them. and by common conscnt they wcro
changed He did not think Il was good policy to sep
arale The State, city and Presidential elections The
tendency has recently been 10 change back 10 one
general election in most Of those States where these
elections have heretofore been separated. II would
III New York cny, be adding another turbulent can
TO the ono already held yearly, and IN that city
the heat excitement oil every election are disastrous
lie thought the experiment OF spring elections was
not one try again. No one from New York had
made such proposition except Mr. strahan, and be
had evidently urawn the PROVISION IN his own closet,
without con utalion with any one The bill hardly
changes system 50 much as II changes persons, and
II not apparent that ito change OF persons was IN
Improvement. There was too much work 10 bc done
by tue heads o! dcpatm as they now stand TO I'M
dertake TO increase them by adding other departments
TO those they already have,
lMPoksBILiTiEs DEMANDED.
Mr.. Campbell said the Commissioner OF Public W orks
actually physically incapable Of performing all tho
duties which would De imposed upon him by tho tran
fer OF the Department OF Docks 10 his department.
He ended with strong argument in favor OF some re-
eI 10 the cnizcns New York from tho evils OF
tnuous adverse legislation by persons not allied with
the Guys Interest,"
srIxoLA WANTS IT VETOED.
MI Spinoa rccounei how the tactics OF the ro-
pubcans in the House had been persiscntiy against
the Tree discussion aud amendment OF the bill by the
democrats and urged Veto
Alderman Cole, who appeared as taxpayer and
journalist Tor tho last twenty-five years SAID the bill
gotten up IN malice and It's passage would do more
harm than any othor net that he knew OF
THE GOVERNOR WANTS AN ADJOURNMENT
The Governor at this point SAID as to-day was the
last day he had IN which 10 CONSIDER the supply bill,
he could not hear any moro ornl argument but would
receive written comm nications.
To REPEAL THE BANKRUPT LAW.
The concurrent resolutions asking Congress to
peal the Bankrupt law OF 1867 nave now passed both
houses.
AFTER THEN WITH SHARP STICK
| IL Is evident the Governor has no weak Partially