The New York herald., 1877-10-26
YORK HERALD FRIDAY u.s. 1s77-TRIPLE SHEET

world, aud lively aud eccentric know who u wns
that gave me away. II was a Captain Waugh. who
commanded the American vessel Thomas Brooke. Ho
mo II know the nrm In Now York TO which his cargo
was consigned. know thom FIRST rate. Dut began
10 lead him Off Ny companion, Hunt, who bad taken
mo to Santiago, slipped around to me aud said, That
fellow knows you 'well,' said I, Hunt, speak to
him and tell him not TO give away That was the
man." said Mr.. Tweed. with shake Of the head.
"who sons my up TO tho consular authorities" :"
"what did you intond to do Mr. Tweed, II you had
been lot alone. in Europe'"
II should have lived in Spain all my life. l had 40
signed 10 60 into some quiet part. Catalonia or come
whore whore living inexpensive, and have
always been prudent In my nppctitcs and personal
living l could have lived there for the rest Of my
days"
"Don't You think the desire for power. for Amcri-
can society to revisit Now York would bavo
bothered you at timcs2"
al think not At that tmc felt indisposod to talk,
10 meet acquaintan to do anything but rest ana
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mistake" remarked Mr. Tweed, ",o consider me, as
some OF the newspapers have done as q man with
out fair education and an appreciation Of II. In
1852. when I was running for small Office In this
drunk at nights whom tho tact Is I was never drunk
In my life. Ny iather lived TO old ago and dropped
dead in the slroet havc nevor smoked cigar nor
chewcd . piece OF tobacco. i never liked whisKey.
Being man OF large body am fond OF good eating.
But for my attention to temperance l should have
been in my grave years ago"
"Say ask, what would you do II you wcro out Of
this prison and free TO begin life again9"
81 should go to New Orleans or to the West Idle
moss Is my aversion l do moro work In this jail than
anybody IN II. Look that window sill at those piles
OF books-the Daily Transcript and othcr documents
pertaining TO my examination. / spend hours ran
sacking thcm every day. During tho height OF my
prosperity In this CITY made everybody around me
work, and 1t used TO bc q saying, There comes Mr.
Tweed now we will have to sweat My soun-iaw Ia
IN business in New Orleans and could make myself
useful TO him travelling agent in some other
way-enough to give me employment and living.
II did 90 tnero would lie far out West"
"Porhaps YOU m,strust yourself. Would not the
thirst for politics In New York resume i,s pacefr
.'No. 1 am TOO old and indifferent, and would not
even voso in this country again"
TWEED ON rnE rREsrpErrs
sswhat President did you first for, Mr.. Tweed ??
81 think 1t was Polk know voted arst for Prcsi.
dent in 1874"
(which Of tho public men who aspired to the
Presidency attained IL do you recall with the
respectf"
.sLet me scs," answered Mr. Tweed, refcctively.
..rhero was Frank Pierce Ikuew him. He was very
light-almost nonontity. Fillmore was poor stick
too-very little breadth to him. I Think SAID Mr.
Tweed, With sudden illumination, "thst Stephen A.
Douglas Impressed mo moro than any big nationa
man ever know. l. was pretty well acquaiuted with
him. Mr. West, who used to be Surrogate. had
Douglas al hts house and asked me around there.
was for Douglas for President away back In 1852
1856. He seemed to be bg-brained man, with plenty
OF temperament, democratic and ccar-headed; n rca
loader was Douglas democrat up to the beginning
OF tho war and democrat after that"
"You never saw Mr. Linconf'
.sNo, never met Lincoln privately, but thought
very we'll OF him."
NEW VIEW OF TILDEy.
..what kind OF President would Mr. Tidcn have
madc had he been peacefully innuguratcds"
"wci," said Mr.. Tweed, musingiy, az Congress
were called to meet on the 4th OF March, and by con
stitutionai requirement the President would have ic
send in his Message that day, Tildcn would have
It ready perhaps by the 4h Of April following. He
always puts on everything"
s.But II hc has SO much procrastinntion In his
habits how did Mt Tildcn become so rich9"
"By tirng people out" sold Mr.. Tweed. sHe
would just sit down and out tho patience OF any
body in business as he would in politics Hc was a
shares Of stock somo company which he do
signed 10 capture. He would have IL all figured gu,
SO that you would get no dividends, and
after awhile you would have to sell somo OF tho
out OF your dividend. would thon buy up your stock
and SO. little by litllc, you would have to lc,
that stock out until Tildens crowd got all and after
awhile your railroad would be reorganizcd ana con
soildated But that kind OF patience does not apply
TO President, who can only servo four years aud
must oct on tho moment"
"sull, Mr.. Tweed 1t is generally conceded that Til.
den has shown ability"
"Howf" asked Mr. Tweed, respectfully. ~ suppose
you mean In hts speeches and letters. Whom no be-
camo Governor at a time when nobody else desired
the nomination, what KIND OF men did he bring for.
ward 10 support him in this sta,cg lie took rcpub
Iican Robinson, and a squad OF ltto fellows like
Farchiid."
"Bus he carried the nomination over many compcti.
tors at tho Democratic National Convention -
ut was his wealth that did tnatn said Mr. Tweed.
ssThc po,tr,ans of tbc por,v IN bo eo,,b