The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-12-23

Captain McI,vane OF the seventh, also swore there
gambling houses or policy shops IN the locality
over which ne mad jurisdiction.
HARD TO GET TESTIMONY AGAINST POLICY Shops
Superintendent waing, being recalled. testified as
10 his attempts enforce the laws against policy
shops; numbers OF arrests had been made through
communcations sent 10 witness; much aifculty was
experienced N procuring testimony against these par
ties; the police sometimes sent persons not con-
ncced With the department nj to purchase SHIPS Super.
tics ., the law on This subject, so Jar as he
knew tho force mad donc al in their power to
be further stated that he had conversation dur
ing the day with Marcus Cicero stanley, who remarked
that he was after the Police Commissioners and had
furnished statistics relative to gambling houses and
PERTINENT CROSS ANIMATION
Mayor Ely--How many gambling houses and policy
shops are there N this city,
superintendent Wailina could tell, the
duty OF the four Inspectors 70 keep the records IN
these matters
Mayor Ely-During Commissioner Charlck's term
were no, all the gambling houses suppressed
superintendent Walling-. think not, sir.
Mayor Ely-wers not nine.tenths of these places
closed up during Mr. Charlick's ,ermS
superintendent WalnE COZ id not give any positive
answer 10 this question. The witness then went on 10
describe ths method adopted in enforcing the gam
bling laws.
Captain Williams gave testimony similar 10 that Of
the other police captains relative 10 the administra
ton OF the laws in nis precinct
Inspector Dilks corroborated tho statement relative
10 the Police Department IN efficiently enforcing Tho
statutes against street walkers gambling houses and
policy shops.
Captain Washburne Of the Twentieth precinct, fol-
Mr.. T. X Butler, President OF the Sixth Avenue
Railroad, swore that the city was cleaner than IL
been for live years. TIE police was more efIicon
now than ever before, in the opinion OF witness.
COMMISSIONERS ERHARDT RECALLED
Commissioner Erhardt was recalled and questioned
II want 10 KNOW said the ex.Uniled States Dis
tric Attorney, las to the enforcement OF the laws
against gambling Has there been an attempt to en-
iorce tnem2
Commissioner Erhardt-Yes, sir; very rgidly
Mir. As 70 the policy shopss
Commissioner Erhardt-Ihe same.
Mr. BiissAAs to street walkers
Commissioner Erhurdt-lhe Same. Mr.. Erhnrdt
then wont on to clucdate the difficulties executing
SUCH laws lhis ground mad been previously covered
by other witnesses.
MAYOR ELY's LETTERS.
A large number o. letters written ny Mayor Ely to
the Ponce Commissioners asking positions tor certain
persons then road by Mr. Bliss these letters
couchea in polite lans uage, and merely exhibited
warm anxiety on the part OF the Mayor To secure
employment Tor those whom he con worthy OF
IL. Whom tue hour OF hive O'Clock haa arrived (ac-
cordiug TO previous noticed Mayor Ely declared that
the case o! CORNERSTONE Wheeler must close
MR.. BLISS WRATH.
Mr.. Bliss insisted upon continuing the reading OF
the lelers.
Mayor Ely--I declare the case of Wheeler closed.
You Cab read tho remaining letters In the Nichols
case II you wish.
some sharp discussion here took place between tho
Mayor and Mr.. Bliss upon this point. 1t was simple
qubble 10 priority OF introduction nothing more.
IN concluding The debate on these points Mr.. Bliss
nat OF these letters made requests OF the
Commissioners Tor the reopcning vi certain police
cases where the parties hao been convicted, aud
where such reopcning would have been q msdemeanor
under the law
COMMISSIONERS NICHOLS CASE
Mr. Elihu Root next rcud the answer OF Commits
soner Nichols. already published. When the docu-
mcnt nad been disposed OF Mr.. Root said ave de-
maud a copy OF the specific charges against Mr..
Nichols"
Mayor Eiy-I propose to upon the charges al-
ready made.
Mr.. Root--wo ask Tor the evidence.
Mayor Ely-rhe Mayor has nothing to submit be-
yona The charges on record do not propose to offer
any evidences beyond the cross-cxaminatiOn OF your
make the charges upon my own knowledge.
Mr. Root-We now demand 10 know what that
knowledge Is.
Mayor Ely propose TO offer nothing further
MOTION DISMISS.
Mr. RoOt-We now ask you TO DISMISS tho charge.
Mayor Ey--Iha motion is denied.
Mr. Field here questioned tue Mayor to tho ma
turc OF the charge, aud how Tar he intended to go
specifying the that mad been nfr,nr ed upon
Mayor Ely took partcu ar pains uncato TITS
position in this respect and reiterated the statement
that lie meant TO bring In the points TO the failure
When this question had been disposed Of Commits.
soner Nichols WAS again called upon to give tcsti-
mony. His principal statements were similar TO
those gwen ms other examinations, with
terview between the Mayor, witness ana Com
missioner Wheeler at the time when the charges
formally served The Mayor then SAID that lie nad
preliy well made up hts nina on the matter OF re-
moval; that considerable clamor had been made by
the newspapers. and that he would throw tho whole
responsibility upoa the Governor.
These statements corrobcratea by Mr.. Wheeler,
after when recess taken until eight O'Clock.
PRonucE HIS BODY.
The night session commenced few minutes after
Er. Bliss asked the Mayor to call Mr.. George Jones.
Counsel ntd subpoena IN his hands for lhut gentle
man. Attached to the subpoena was certificate of
service II mad been served during the evening
but lie did answer. Mr.. Bliss then moved that q
warrapt ISSUED to the Sheriff produce the body
Tins motion caused some excitement, aud the Com
missioncrs' counsel put their heads together and
laug he'd immoderately.
Alter an examination OF tho law Mayor Ely said that
he considered II hts duty 10 sign the warrant OF at
SUPERINTENDENT wALLISG RECALLED
Superint cndent Walling was AGAIN called for the
purpose OF detailing incidents az to enforcing tho
gambling laws under Ponce Commissioner Chariick.
Mr.. BLISS next read extracts from the proofs pre-
scntcd in tho case OF Commissioners OF Charities and
Correction Laimoeer and stern in proceedings In
duccd with the intention Of showing presidents In
trials OF this character.
received the signature OF the Mayor. Before It was
handed for execution TO the Sheriff Mayor Ely asked,
s'Do you know whether Mr.. Jones Is well uotY''
Mr. BIss-I know that he was. well enough to-day
TO take his dinner. He complained, however, Of not
Mayor Ey--I wish to state that grant this attach
mcnt WIN reluctance; the statute seems 10 BIO COM
pulsory o n the subject
OF no CONSEQUENCES.
Mr. Root next called attention to an allusion mado
by superintendent Wallng TO u conversation held
day with Marcus Cicero Stanley in which tStancy)
minated that he was supplying cvdonce against the
Police Commissioners.
Mayor Ely-1hat inference can say is entirely or
roneous.
Sir. Root would ike to introduce tho record OF a
commitment
Mayor Ely (sharply)-I shall rule anything OF the
sort VI the record have already told you that
Mr. stanley has had nothing whatever 10 do with tho
charge against tho Police Commissioners as far as
am concerned.
Mr.. Bliss-The record OF a court, them is not TO be
taken as evldcnceY
Mayor Ely Twin cmpnasis)--l must again call at.
.cntion TO the fact that Mr.. Stanley had nothing
10 10 with this case. Tue gentleman lett two books
nero this morning Tor mo to have not had
time TO look them over. They may be a dictionary
ard q Blblc, Tor all know.
SUMMING
SIR Field, at tho conciu OF this tilt between the
counsel aud tho Mayor, proceeded TO sum up the
behalf oil tue Commissioners lie al
ludca 10 tho Mayors actual responsibility OF
Removal, aud contcndcd that lie mad no
power remove Mr.. Erhardt because that gentleman
had nothing to be TURNED out IRON, his oi onlcc
having expired. Mr. Fcid attacked the grounds upon
winch tho removals we're attempted to be made argu-
ing that there was cv idcncc 10 sustain the charges