The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-12-25
THE INVESTIGATION ENDED.
7. H. DREAMER, n. r. TfTNTOR. AND 4.
H. GREEN ON THE STAND.
The Charter OF fs7O-'rhe Cost of Legislation
with the Court House as an Illustration
Country Mcmbers Iegisiating for the tity.

Inc ehnrter OF Iaso-The Cost OF Legislation
with the Court House ss Illustration
Country Mcmbers IeRisiating for the tity.
The Aldcrmen's Committee OF Invcstiga-
ton Of the Ring frauds held. yesterday, what
was probably their last public meeting The
Hon. Thomas J. Crcamcr by permission, pre-
scented himself rs n voluntary witness to reply
to certain Of Mr.. Twceds averments. He said
that II Richard Il. Connolly told Tweed that he
arranged with him tCreamcrl for his vote on
the charter VI 1870. II was false There was.
Mr.. Creamer continued, false impression
abroad concerning the renson why 80 OF the so
members of the Senate voted for that charter.
MIR. Crenmer offered eleven different amend
ments to It. the adoption Of either one OF which
would have changed its character They were
voted down. That was where Twecd's innu-
cnce was used. not on the final passage. There
were in the Senate at the time Is Democrats
and IA Republicans. Generally the representa-
tives from counties in which there were cities
had the say about tho legislation concerning
those cities. but the delegation from New York
was divided. Three out Of the i've Senators
from New York opposed not Tweed nor
Swecny. but the concentration of power I'm the
hands OF n few men here in New York The
friends OF the charter included all the Demo-
lork-fiteen. All that was necessary to carry
1t was to get two Of the remaining Democrats.
ask hepuhlicans TO vote for II. 1t would have
been very cheap thing 70 give two out of the
three outstanding New York Democrats one
d the charter II they had been rurchasa6ie for
then it would not have been necrssary to de-
S sF f%eea pnP @ TT vote Mr o fa 6 aE
lcvies in 1868 and 1860 and added that he never
heard Of a New York member being paid to vote
Tor the tax levy. In reply t. questions PIT at
random. the witness further said that tho menu
hers who gave the weight Of II majority TO i'm
proper legislation were generally from the
country The witness continued:
haze no dqg. every 'aS levy contain. excessive an
whether Albany or IN Washington bat such tenn are
not always apparent as nauds and niember. who may
deemed may subsequently vote Tor tie passage
have inenectaay oppo.cd bccS9.e IL r"..Sse . eg
nS9s9 s sSrS, L. ,g sht e .gbcqgsn deylog
iar and lust tax levy hcing passed don't suppose there
Yok Court ide dr whsh and %, iGr NM Nrw
Wa NO, laii to get II tr?ush seven sishhs Of The
NM scattered IN nearly every county town, and village
senauyc Who went down to Albany 10 MAKE sc8ethns
oat OF New York The Democratic PARTY not rcspon.i
ne Ter me im rer lesisla9n Of $50 for the country
New YORK delegauon to carry their measures
Mr. H. j. Taintor took the witness stand and
endravored To nut In and have accepted rs part
the Ring suits. He testified as follows:
e a7 ro JaSs i' We ~ nv sifa Es
q, per diem After that wa, 10 receive mv roin
pcnsnon ACCORDING 90 the value o the services r,lcr
,sn,e'was ne Ring frauds were made ancr june 5
most ii my tme-tiat ana pcttins evidence IRON, Inc
different banks and laying foundation. Tor the proceed
great ign.iliics that rested uron me- hat he law
hy my ingenuity ami rer-,ycranca aih@rc and iict
uat Vie compensate was receiving was entirely In
ln,t" mag, ~ my m,nd a, soon a. ic iine ana
line ae.s I'LL IT, re- Se ~ ree,, , W.
N,'. l &c. AMI he after console ration, consented TO
Q-Betwe,r lame 3 1874 and poc a. is7t were there
i"nt know i~,e.~i ant r,coll,,i ,as,is hui II
m, Nru began the solution or analysis Oh the county
on the sl.t Of December is7i Won received &C. l,n
arnt, III r,ni.ini., =, h. .t IVY l"t- fN
fsn ,sy new IN what NM It wa. considered ih.n hut
hesn ca..,i claiming ice, ana suppose twoud be
Then IL you stated the voucher that your hin for
:. Y. wa, iur services rendered n the Ro- Mc,-hau
il red and notior ben ronI.rs.
\ Oe.bs - don't kno~-I don't Know low i az mean
i'a I'a on en'N What The action o. my mind was
Mr.. Tainior further affirmed tina, be- had not
been, eyer since June .. ia. trading 400 tho i'm
,,n ,r, hg ealncrod lror o. tL.t time. hui
even ". 9ud that h.s services have not been
Mr OK Put in ovilenco table showing tho
arrounts AMI amounts ~ pnyments % Mr.. II. r.
Iaiiior slowing mat h. h4s drawn rom n"
rangcment Tor G72 days work: ssla.SlS.6j" was a,
pad him Tor services claimed o. lave been rem
d"red on specified oases. and 81. $50 WAS paid in
n general way on bills loosely made out ior un-
sperined services N unnamed cases.
Ialntor employed in terrctlng ont the Ring
frauds when he went into Office Nov. l6. 1871,
1nd left him at i when he went out Of once at
lievcd, engaged by Mr.. Tilden for the service #
r. Bureau, Of Municipal Reform originally.