The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-02-15

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Mr. Trumhull-It ia difficult to tell on whnt
consideration Senators vote. The cert irai, Of
the Governor of Louisiana in that ruse was in
proper form. and for somc reason both Houses
coniurred in rcjcting the vote of Louisiana; SO
that II this amounts 10 anything II is "a decision
crn1r is not conclusive on the two Houses of
Congress.
Mi Justice Bradley TO Mr.. TrumbuD-I un-
dcrstaud that the decision OF the Senate in that
cnsc went to the form and not the point whether
the certificate of the Governor was not con-
elusive.
Mr. Trumhull road Gov warmoth's ccrtin-
cate in that case and snid that this one thin 4
was certainly settled by Congress there and
that was the Goysrnor's cert ilcate tthe same ns
that known as mo. 1" in tho caseD might he
oycrrulcd by tho concurrent action Of tho two
Houses. The rcpor, of the committee was that
the vote had not been properly canynssrd.
Now. we propose to show that the vote OF Lou
isiann has never been canvnss"d, that the pre-
tended canvass IL n fraud. that the papers are
fled. and | would ike 20 know whether n
count under such cir umsinn as is any bet
ter than count made hy persons who had
not any right to count. If tho notion
Of Congress ia good Tor anything In that
cnsc il must bc binding on the cummission
That was tho moaning when this comm ssion
WIS created. 1t viii be u delusiOn, and is "A
snare in the estimation Of the whole people. if
ground that The commission has nothing to do
but To add up the returns II will not only oycr-
hut II will overturn cv ary srtted principle Of
parliamentary law from tic beginning Of timc.
N.
At tho clos" of Mr.. Trumhus argument he
filed ON behalf OF NJ ssIs. Hoadloy Green. and
himself brief on the subject OF the electoral
vQtes OF L"vIssec and Brewster.
Mr. Carpenter referred the commission 10
authorities on the point OF Gov Kellogg having
n authority To- certify to his own eic .tiOn as
Presidential rlector.
Mr.. sTOuGHrOS FOR THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
Mr.. Sloughton followed with an argument on
the HHpul'run side Of tho question. He
expressed his surprise at The objection that the
.Hff N tH. aftfH IL
would h' remembered That when the vote of
Connecticut WIS counted h"r Governor, Mr.
lngcrSoll. was a Presidential clector at large,
and that his certificate had hnen received
without objection. such objections were hardly
suitable L. the dignity oi Ia" o.vas ion. 1t had
also been objected to-day tand the objection had
heen urged with good deal Of Zcall that Gov
Kellogg WAS not the Governor ot Louisiana, and
mat LOUISIANA was governed ny military
d"spot sm. He supposed that that meant that
q military force had been. on Application Of Gov
Kellogg 10 tho Pres dent ordered 20 Louisiana
But counsel should have refr tod that the very
iact that Gov. Kellogg had made such an appli
cation and that II Ia l~cn granted was decisive
evidence that he was then Governor of Louisl-
ana. what was tho pr'rher" ON the other side {,
II Yns mat The commis'ion should by scar'h
AMI scrutiny OF many ~ not al) the
boon the Not, Of Louisiana at the
l,.,l. lost Gle ton, + was propo-gd that hg
- h.h'ni M" tion oi the final linurning
l'ourd of ihgt Nt"i". ana holu II Tor nan -ht. lie
,4'N ,'i t'' lhi'. 70 u i- Ut -N'l'nl lN SLOW lNl
thr turning Il ard 49, constituted had tho
power drl"i.ited tp Il hy the statutes of Ioli-i-
ana 10 fi't"riul mo- fur number Of votes cast for
electors and power to certify It finally SO
FAR 49, tAf authority Of that State Wa- com
.'rn'd, N init iin on'tion thyi c- nn y
ln iir IT. 'H.fl t.llr-- r'uid nui 10" Nllad hr
ihtCli' ...r i'-,lf hi no f.un,laiiIn what.,.r
u ~o"m"i O. him that 'nr DECISION of tNo eoni-
r son iu tln llnrida ras" dot ruinei th"
Nhir' i1 -'lNu here rus .- g. thr li.Ni OF f.ir
r' .nfni-- .'n f.l.n h'Niri 'hn 90 ton 'f 90" h.-
iHluIu- lIHrl. ami hr ruub MT perceive tnut
'.u' ga. ti4n- much j - the main uun-tinn-
" nW ~ argument. ". pu.i 'i against
Mt ItuNiui Argument today from r.
port mnlr hy senator Triunhul. to the
tu'c tiiut neither the S"rat". nor the House.
nor lnh Houses Jointly. hnN" power under the
Constitution 10 canvass tn" returns Of nm rlec-
iNn:and that ia mod and manner of choosing
electors was lett exclusively to the States. H."
also quoted on the same point 'ttrr recently
published. from cN-Judge Church of New York
upright Jud-" AMI even pure poticiun.
Mr.. >hnlli Nar.t'r. " enun-"i for the R"pulli-
"Hn neii'. n'Nt address a the commission. H."
nj. ir-.,'1 witaic M. .i4iu,.. wh'h ha,e io.n
rilen % hc ru.ra State. dir,,urs tic aii-ir'.n,nt
y" t.i @ '"i ~ na' r,'r 'on t,s 't'SS,mE,
uHnf nf.f Iait- Won vifn Uulwron. m ,o1~ or.N. 20
u.tt o l~7- d.i eu,clu .u i~." duiug flo io..
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w..e.'-ef ia iH 9n o. ..,.n- ."HT. o..
ai .',om doaht / urN y,u w,u al,o ".
Sa.''Is, Ssa"a.''Isc, ~ i- .a.n aa ,A"' "c c...is...ag. s.g
auI fif ',- t u,olu.r, .. '0..n. ,f c0ni.'In- ali
...f..u tD ,trr,.n .N..t So ilc't'l.I 'N.Ie-c.
Al th,Doii ll-ion ct Mr Shriamrgrr- nreu-
mint t"' con4n.s7.on "t.oufnrd until To-