The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-12-05

would be necessary to have three sets OF carts pass
daily 800 miles OF streets. II would cost II 000
per day TO pay expenses Of carriage alone.
Commissioner CHAsDLER remarked that as the
garbage only amounts TO about ten per cent II could
not make such difference IN the labor OF carriage
Mr. HAwLEr-lt may be small, but you will have 10
travel 800 miles day TO get IT
Commissioner NlcnoLs--is there any objection TO
filing M the water front with this material the same
as II Is used at the foot OF King streety
Commissioner CuASDLEg-Ir . Is used exactly the
Al the foot oil King street We can't object VI
course can't commit ourselves 10 any plans which
will interfere in any way with the health OF the CITY,
Do we understand that the statute compels you 10
clean the streets OF the city dailyY
Mr.. HAwLKY answered by stating that some were
cleaned every day ana occasionally. The gen.
tlsman turned r.Chandler and asked, els II
praccabe compel the puoc 70 separate this refuse
malterr
Comm ssioner CHANDLER thought IL was The rule
shouc be insisted with the pubic for months until
they got used 10 IT, aud then there would DO no DIM
Guilty.
Police Commissioner ERHARDr--What IL tho pun
shment IL case OF noncompliance with this ordi-
nances
commissioner CHAsDLKR-The maximum is $50 fine
and ut The discretion oil the Court
Mayor ELY-ME Hawley made some remarks about
waste OF time In sending men 10 ses with the scows
where they had only TO work for about An hour and
halt Would il be possible 10 secure an Improvement
in the capacity OF THESE vessesf
HAwLEy's THEORIES CONTINUED
Mr.. HAwLEY said thai they had no money ior use IN
this direction The old material OF former years IN
the way Of scows and steamboats, had been handed
over 10 the Police Department He was oil opinion
per cent Of garbage buried III ninety per cent
OF ashes and street cleaning would not hurt anybody.
The versatile speaker gave his theories as TO the
Harlem ats nuisances. In former years, no said. The
tide used 70 How back and forth In that vicinity.
Part OF The locality was dam med up in Third Sec.
ond avenues. Cessp0ols were thus formed. The TIDE
kept back aud these spots were never Thoroughly
cleaned out. Then The contract with the Police
Department. The street cleanings were dumped
into these cssspools. IL was the water ana not
the matter that caused the disagreeabe doors.
the snt sent fourteen doctors the
locality Offset 10 tins Board OF Health. These
doctors we're OF the same opinion as " tho cause oi
the smells. Harlem had now become as healthy a.
any other part VI the city
MIR. UnASDLsR-Yes, but wo spent 600 IN one
month In 4isiniecting these tats.
SANITARY POLICE.
Some discussion mere the effect OF piln 6
up different parts OF the city and the action
oil The Board oil Health the subject. Dir. Chandler
also complained OF the abolition Of the sanitary iorce
attached the Board OF Health by the Police Depart
menL ,
Commissioner ERHARpr explained this action In the
statement that he thought II necessary TO dispense
with the services oil nese men, as their outes were
gn and they were more useful IN aiscna'gng patron
In answer TO question IRON Mayor Ely, Mr. HAwLxY
stated Oil had been drafted anu sent ~ Albany
giving permission The department 10 dump IA
Little He'll Gate; that two old gentlemen went up the
river anu notified the Legislature that sucn dum ping
would make them SICK, and there the anair dropped
THE MAIN QUESTION.
Other general IDEAS were thrown out, when Com
missioner ERHARDr asked Mr.. Chandler 'In your
OPINION will be necessary 10 secure additional eas-
laon SO obviate the difficulties IN TINS matter OF
dsposing OF street reuser Gan you not sugsest soo
plan in this connecticut
Mr. CHASDLyR did not think II was the province OF
the Board OF Health to suggest any pan u was their
duty to find fault where the work OF street cleaning
was properly done. He thought that under exist
Ing laws every thing could be accomplished that was
necessary.
Mr.. HAwLEY-Unt the entire responsibility Is placed
In one department nothing can BIO done.
Captain GUNNER, superintendent OF tho Street Clean.
ing Bureau that curing the years 1875 and 1876
the Police department had separate carts. They were
not able 10 continue them because certificates could
not be procured from the Board OF Health.
Mayor ELY, concluding the conference, said that
II him the duty Of cleaning the streets lay
entirely with the Police Board, and this department
was not able do any better without the aid OF egs
laton. They might, therefore, be aple 10 get some
legislation month In reference to the disposal OF
material The public would be compelled 10 submit
" the present condition OF affairs until some remedy
was provided.
After hearing statement from Mr.. Charles h. Has
we'll as to providing hopper scows for carrying
the refuse matter out to and short speech from
Mr. T. N. Butler relative TO manure, the meeting ad-
Journed.