The New York herald., 1877-07-29


Interrupting me good humoredly, Mr. Tsza con-
republic Cossack," and added with smile. "Per-
haps IL Is bad that but Panslavisc Russ IA
Europe the future II It did have somethn TO
attend 10 at home" tWens man ihSs nicAf ets0ds 80
Hause ga ann 0eter soarde.)
"By Nihilism. Your Excelencyf"
"fes." Mr. rsza asscutcd and slowly and calmly ne
pronounced these sententous wors which, II spoken
IA Parliament would have certainly been received a.
rhetorical gem and evoked storm OF "Eben" cries.:
when you raise the banner OF liberty abroad you
cannot MAINTAIN absolutism at home"
This was like saying TO the Czar:-"If you want to
hberate Christians, why do you not Tree your own
assem5age would have appauded this sentence 70 the
echo
Sand yet the Russian Emperor Is described IN .
most humane and progressive man."
"Yes," Mr. Tisza answered 'I think that he desired
tors to control HIM"
'Do you think he really desires 10 capture Constan-
.We have his word OF honor that he does not now
but tLat this the ultimate goal Of the Russian pol
spoken la n tone OF thorough canvicton
.What would Russia do with Constsntnope?"
.'Yor know there are great many Greeks Ar.
menians there; IL make another slavic stronghold
.'By kicking the Turks gradually out OF EurOpes"
Mr.. TIsza laughed, ana replied, 'Exacty, that's
what 1t would have TO amount to-"
Sand what is Bismarck's poiicyY Does Germany
no. fear Panslavlsm, too?"
'At present Germany desires that Russia may be
victorious although do not believe that IL would go
,ne ens,n o. sss u c R%.ss %n s o
this state OF feeling"
RUssIAs
Aprop0s OF these fears OF that ghosty spectre OF Fan
slavism which hauEts 30 many cabinets OF Europel
remarked that these grave certainly did
Russia had developed In the present war. Mr. Tsza
cordially assented 10 this Russia certainly has done
very little thus fnr ana II has shown great rcadt
ness Tor (grosse krieosJereiishatD when con.
slider that this Crisis has been brewing for the last two
years"
asked what he thought OF the present situation al
the seat Of war.
ut is Impossible to judgen the Minister President
replied. "Boih parties lie sEfully lLdgen fes) There
seems to be doubt that Russia suffered defcat
in Minor ASIA but to what extent 1t goes we cannot
Judge as yet from the conflicting reports"
now reverted again to the main point OF this inter.
view-the probability Of Austria's military inter.
ference.
"Many people seem TO think, said l, 'that Austria.
through It's position, can dictate peace or war;" :,
"lt can certainly exercise considerable pressure
Mr. Tisza replied with statesmanliKo moderation,
''even If 1t cannot dictate peacc or war;"
"For instance, II Austria we're 10 send ON army In
tho rear oil tho Russian iorces"-
Mr.. rsza smiled comfortably at the picture which
this conjuncture seemed to summon before his mind
"That would certasily DO extremely disagreeaDie.
extremely disagreeable for our Russian gentlemen"
(Fstr Herren Russex.)
Only one well familiar with the spirit OF the Ian.
guago could appreciate the nne. sharp irony IN this
mock polite expression OF, "Unsere Herren Russen."
AUsTRIA's FIGHTING CONDITION.
Sand is Austria in good condition P" asked.
"lts last military exhibitions before Europe were not
very brilliant"
''Ah but Austria is IN a far better condition for
than IL was eleven years ago." Mr. Tisza replied.
.Our army has been thoroughly reorganized since
then; it is armed with the best brooch leaders, and
It's discipline and spirit are admirable" After pause
the Minister. President added, in emphatic signa
cant tone, "In tour weeks put 600 600 men 10
tho held-reguars and Landwchr.'' ~
Nj. Tisza as he said this looked ut mo straight
through his great blue spectacles and smiled as II ia
say, ''Well is this enough for you my frendY Are
you satisfied that we can whip these Russian
whenever want to and whenever the time comes p?
"Is II true, Your Exceency that in view Of poss
Bile warke emergency large numbers OF troops are
gathered at the southern frontcr-some eighty thou.
sand men, as have been iniormcdP"
Your informant mistaken" Mr.. Tisza replied
srhcre Is no such number In our border provtpces.
There enough troops there there everywhere
in Austria IL Is enough that we arc prepared"
''rHE EMPEROR NOT FEAR WAR. j."
'You have spoken with the Emperor on tho subject
of this war?'
'Yes very frequently
"What does he think Y''
With great frankness Mr.. Tsza replied "He docs NOT
of course, desire but let tell you Also that he
does not fear it. Tho Emperor thoroughly detcr-
mined to protect the interests OF the monarchy"
now broached very deiic ito subject with but
little hope OF obtaining satisfactory response and
'May | ask iour Excelency If an agreement exists
between Austria and ,hs other Powers in relation 70
Nj. Tisza smiled good urcdly and said courte-
ously:-"You must excuse me If cannot answer this
| question:
reaton to the but nevertheless of very grest in
every student of history-namely the proba-
AUsrRIA's FUTURE EXISTENCE ASSURED.
81 believe that Austria will remain she is being
necessary the peace Of Europe She Is the great
buwark Of Western Europe against tho Pansavistic
| Power"
''wi not Germany ultimately annex tho German
Austrian crown lands?"
al do not think know Il has often been said
| that Austria, as German Power, must vanish from
the map OF Europe, and that the seat of power dey
schu9pank OF the monarchy must be transferred from
| Vienna to Pesth. But, remember the Austrians do
not desire IL for what would 1t make Of gay and beau
| tilul ViennaY mere frontier city (grenzstddtr'
"Apd do you think that Germany covets that Dor.
tion of Austrian"
81 Even Germany cannot like to contem-
plate the possibility of one great Slavic power extend
ing from the North Sea TO The Adriatc with peas-
| ant smel You may depend upon " this generation
will not the annexation Of Germanic Austria by
see 1t such possibility may loom In the distant
future but II Is indeed distant Austria will remain
for she is to the peace Of Europe"
Here OF Mr. rsza's colleagues In the Hun.
garan Cabinet entered '.Mundjar" (Gleich) The MIN
lister President, continued his native language.
thanked him for his courtesy and bade him goodby.
He politely accompanied the door and hts parting
salutation the customary Austrian "ISt comp
| fetie ,cich" II commend inyselD and thus ended my
! Interview with the Hungarian Minister President Az
reached to the portal noticed that yonder gorgeous
usher darted sharp though exceedingly sly glance at
my cIenched hand TO II guider was concealed In
1t and touching expression OF relief stole his
he caught glimpse OF that coveted pcce OF
s'rag money" And that expression deopened consd-
crably slipped It into his hand anti ratified OF In
my faker
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