The New York herald., 1877-03-05
THE DEMOCRATIC ATTITUDE.

THE DEMOCRATIC ATTITUDE.
SECRETARY OF STATE DIoELow STATES HIS
UNCEAsINa MORAL PRorxsr-powER OF THE
SHERMAN FAMILy-HAYEs' CABINET VIEWED
THROUGH DEMoCRArIC sPEcTACIEs
Mr.. John BigcIow our Secretary OF State holds such
intimate relations 10 Ex-Governor Tden IN whose resi-
dcnco he spends tho greater part his when he rs
In this city, and whom the Ex-Governor has probably
consulted more during tho campaign than any
other person. that his uttcrances tho present at
titudc OF the democratic party toward the Hayes ad.
ministraiion become Of especial interest Mr. Bgclow
not only spends most OF his leisure at Ex-Governor
T!ldcns residence, but breakfasts and with him
almost every day. II anybody's views may be fairly
regarded as representing those OF Ex-Governor rIden
those OF Mr. Bigelow can be, aud while that
gentleman would undoubtedly modcs,ly dis
claim such Importance for his uttcrances tho
public will assuredly regard them with no
diminished interest from tho fact that they
wero formed In the intimacy of almost unccasng
daily and even hourly cooperation with Ex-Governor
Tildcn's designs and plans during the recent cam
paigu. The interview which follows below took place
yesterday afternoon the Century Club of which Mr.
Bigsow Is q member Its keynote. so tar as Il cx.
presses the attitude Of tho democratic party toward
President Hayes administration will bo found to be
this:-That The democratic party should Keep up an
moral protest against the processes by which
Mr. Hayes secured the Presidency, In order as Gov
Tdcn expressed It tho other day. TO natu.
raIize the system by which success has been
achieved"
The following is tho material portion OF the convcr.
sation with Secretary Bigclow
Is 1T AN INAUGURATION OR A FusERAL3
REPORTER-WeIl. Mr. Secretary wo hayo n pros,denN
at last.
Mr. BrGELow-A provisional President, you ncan
Tho people eject Presidents In this country.
RsroRrER-Would you intimate That the government
TO be organized tomorrow will be only provisional
oneg
Mr. B.GELow-Only provisional government All
governments provisional that are illcgltimatc.
Hayes was not elected by tho people. Everybody
knows IL; everybody feels 1t. Had he been somo
would havc begun rejoice by this time II is forty
eight hours already ho declared President
Havc you heard gun fred? Havo you seen flag
hoistcd? hat thrown into tho arg or remarked
other manifestation of popular satisfaction as
usually attends tho triumph OF great partys One
would suppose from their appearance aud behavior
that tho republicans were preparing for Hayes funeral
rather than for his inauguration and that his friends
had been requested not to send flowers
REPoRTER-But legitimate or cgtimatc Hayes is
to all intents ana purposes much President as
Grant or Lincoln was, is he not?
Mr.. BiGELow-.By no means He will be invested
with the symbols OF power tomorrow, but tho power
will not be there His thunder will be OF sheet iron
aud his lightning will not kill. Tilden by virtue Of
the sovereignty with which tho people clo,hcd him in
November, without titlc or patronage without trunch
con sccptre, will remain greater political force in
the country than Hayes can possibly become. The
TACT 49, andit would be iolly TO disguise II, our political
has m rrieu. nropntt,
phrase, It's has failed 10 meet It's engagements and
gone 70 protest.
caulcys prediction that under Institutions liberty
or civilization must DO sacr l6cedS
POUR YEARS CoxTIsuoUs PROTEST..
Mr. BiGELow--By no means a horse that draws
It's halter has not escaped Our republican institutions
but are not bankrupt Thor credit is impaired but
and must be restored. The work OF restoring IL
must begin at once For the four years our po.
htca lie must be continuous moral protest
against the processes by which hayes elevation has
been accom- mpshed In order as Governor Tilden said,
now BEEN You now %n,e suScess wh. si
mean by calling tho government which Hayes will
Hayes admInsira,ion viii be compelled TO struggle
through every moment OF Its existence under tho fatal
curse Of ilicgitimacy, aud when expires history will
appropriate 10 u the cpitcph OF the Spanish slave:
IL wcpt when was born, and every moment l have
lived has been teaching mo why"
REroKTE.-How can you question Mr. Hayes titlcs
The law under which he was counted Ia would never
have passed but Tor democratic votes and II is
Mr BiGkLowThe republicans threatened rcvolu-
tionary measures. Senator Morton proposed to have
tue President oi the senate usurp the unprecedented
aud under popular government ABSURD, authority
TO count the electoral vote That meant two Prcsi-
dents and civil war, or the retreat OF one OF the
parties. To avoid the risk Of OF these alternatives
some of tue democrats In Congress- taking counsel OF
their tears, like the spies whom Moses sent report
upon the land OF Canaan others OF their desire TO
cape responsibility, and ALL perhaps supposing that
the result would TO the same In either case assencd
10 the gambling device which has made Hayes pro-
visional President The democratic party, as
party, desired q peaceful and orderly solu.
lion OF the Presidential problem. They could
not hope to benefit by any departure
fr-m the prcccdcnts which had been sanctioned
by twenty separate Congresses and which the
publican party, at thrco consecutive Presidential
elcctions. had deliberately pronounced good; but
they disposed TO resist any expcdieni when
would have n tendency 10 quiet the public mind TO
that extent and turtbcr tia democratic party
scnicd 10 the ting machine. did approve Of
H. aud dad ~bat htc could to discourage IT'S adop.
tlop. foresaw nothing but mischief IRON any effort
the houses OF Congress TO evade their consti
tgtiona responsibilities Ny spprehcnsions have
been than reslised Bui whether they
DID right or wrong In calling IN outsidcrs
TO AID In counting tho electoral vote. they
had nc right 10 consult outsiders except as sxpcr,s