The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-09-25
AN INTERESTING INTERVIEW.
The General Explains His Troubles
with Motley and Sumner.
Ills FOREIGN POLICY,
Diplomatic Blundersn and The Captions Sen
ator Caused Difficulties.
CAUTIOUS SUPPORT OF HAYES

EDlxBuKGH, Scotland Sept IL, 1877
There We went whizzing through this most bcauti-
full country at an average rate OF atty miles an hour
The party consisted OF General and Mrs. Grant, Jesse
r. Grant, General Badeau; Mr.w F. Coobaugb, banker,
Chicago; Mr. H. A. Roberts. tho North British Pull
man Paiaco Car AGENT; Jacques Hartog tho ox.Prcs.
dents faithful courier who speaks eight languages
iucntly, aud tho HERALD correspondent The party
had . Pullman car. On the way from London to
Ednburgh-400 milss-the scenery was exceedingly
attractive. All through England and In tho south OF
Scotland tho country rs perfect garden and only
whom you get among tho chilly hills valleys and crags
Of Northern Scotland do you feel that you are
getting into tho open country. What . pity
that there are no forests 10 cover these beau
tifd and historic mountains. whore In gone
BY tho horns OF the leaders summoned tho clans 10
bloody work!
The reception given 10 General Grant az eaoh station
~ reached whols.soulcd and fully meant hosp-
e.iity. At Carlisle tho dinner stopping placs) at
Salashica xelrose Harwick aud number OF smaller
towns In Scotland there expressions OF Joy and
snthu that reminded ono Of the railroad reccp-
tions General Grant gets at tho Of Illinois and
Ohio. II seemed a. though they knew MIN perfectly
we'll, his face hts history. &C., tor thcy recognized
him everywhere, and demanded a. much handwriting
rs could DO done In the limited time tho train
uay. Then tho chccrs and hurrahs always sounded
IN thsnostancc above the whistle Of the locomotive
MRS GRANT.
Mrs Grant was quito cheerful and laxative. She
looks very much bctter than whom she Loft
though says she was always In good health there.
Washington has slightly malnria atmosphere, and
lhs complexion OF washing.onan changes for
tho better amer trip to Europe Sho enjoying her
European trip. She says limos Of association bore
have fallen always in pleasant places, and
that sh: has been greatly pleased with
every acquaintance she has made in Europe.
Mrs. Grant Is quiet, rather reserved lady, but
ono who impresses her associates by hor kind nature
her broad Views upon the subject unier discussion
u commonplace or important, and her sensible deas
Of life. She sprang from OF the best families OF
the Mississippi Valley. we'll known and highly re-.
spscted sinoo hundred and more ago, aud her
early training was not lost All the ladies who met
her and became acquaintances tho White House
loved her from nrst to last
CHAT WITH THE GENERAL
On the way tho General was very laxative Occa.
sopaly no would speak OF affairs at home Frequently
something would develop like this:-
''Gsssral when do you expect 70 return TO Amer.
lear"
~ shall stay In Europe year moro. hnvc
special reasons Tor doing. I a private citizen
now, and nothing whatever to do with politics.
.
policy all the support could, because tho object
aimed at is noble one, and hope he will succeed"
"Bus, General, many republicans fear that hrs
course will destroy tho party"
''Nevcr fear i have always of lato years had an
abiding faith the Of the republican party at
each election, not SO much because II IS ale
ways the strongest with the people because
always, just at the last moment, the demo
Gratis do some foolish thing and give tho
victory TO the republicans Now, mark
my words, we will havo q republican President in
1880, because the democracy cannot resist It's general
disposition kick the milk pail after it nlcd
told Judge Nblack, OF Indiana, so just before tho
last election, and no smngly admitted the truth Of
what said."
"what is your object in staying away from homo SO
iong?"
"wcIl, in the frst place, when out Of office
was worn down. Now have thoroughly recuperated,
an In excellent health enjoying myself immensely
would Ike to SEQ oil Europe. But propose stay
away I'LL after the exciting scenes that Will sur
round the test OF Mr. Hayes policy, for the
reason that II were at homo would
be charged with having hand In every kind Of polti.
cal manDuvring, whethor had not, and want to
Danish politics from my mind until everything settles
down. say for thing, however, that II / we're
IT home should exert my influence as far as could
exert IT, in aid of Mr. Hayes plan Of reconciliation"
THE TRAVELLING PROGRAMME.
o''what will be your course OF traveis,
Tomorrow shall leave Edinburgh for the castle
Of tho Duke Of Observation-Disclosures Caste-away up
IN the far north of Scotland We shall be In Glasgow
the 18th Of September, thence to Ayr, Newcastle
York, Sheffield, Birmingham, bennington and London.
On tho Goth Of October Will 60 to Paris and stay six
weeks thence to Msrssitos Nice and Genoa Al Genoa
hope 10 take an American man of-wsr to different
ports In Spain, Turkey, Egypt Malta. Sicily &C., and
the Grccan Archipelago will return to Naples about
tho 18th of Fe0ruary stay there two weeks proceed
to Rome Tor month 20 10 several largo towns and
return to Paris about the end OF April 1878 We will
stay In Paris TIL about tho ond OF May and thon 20
Denmark. Sweden, Norway, Russn, Austria, and re.
burn by tho Stevco Pass 10 Switzerland whore
poet to arrive September, 1878. think the people
Europe have shown grcat hopor to country in
Ihcir treatment OF mo- look upon these grand re.
soptons rs a tribute Of affection to on American be-
,ause he is an ex.presdcnt, intended as q token OF
respect 10 our nation ITSELF"
HAyDsuAKISG A XUIsAScK
al notice pass stations those people hurrah
md shake hands with you tho same as our people do
u home"
Eyes; was undor the impression chat thcre was no
vuch custom hero; but IN England the habit is as
strong a. In America. | think handwriting a great
suisauce and II should be abolished. In 1885 u was
awful with me; thought l could hardly survive tho
task. II not only makes the right arm sore, but il
shocks tho whole system aud units for writing
or attending TO other duties II dcmoraizes tho Gu
sire nervous and muscular system. None but u
strong man could 60 through much Of II
Is l did IN 1865 II M. Tidcn, Who you know.
is old and not very strong, had been elected no would
have ocen obliged TO decline the handshaKpg business
70 great extent, because I don't think his system
would boar tho STRAIN OF the amount Of 1t that would
have been expected Of him. Tho most iaborious and
Injurious handshaking whcro you stand on an cova.
lion and roach down. man cannot stand much Of
that"
sYAsICxyy2s.
'.Do you get seasck these ocean trips from one
place to anothcr?"
.'No, singularIy enough, do moi. I have boon a
good deal during ny lie and generally got very
,sas,ck, bu, havo troubled In these voyages
say Is singular because from the 4th OF March ti