National Republican., 1877-11-27

Wnen tnc Wltness came 10 city, July,
nothing had been said as to what pay Col. Craig
would give hin. Amer his arrival they had con-
yersations, and there was an understanding be-
the witness IN ali $3.50 Tho day the claim was
paid COL Craig gave him 500 In the store at the
% given for or H. % col W Craig purchssed him ian Of
clothes and paid
THE WITNESS BoARD.BILL
while he was in the city.
In cross.examination he stated that his first
visit TO the city YVES shortly amer the war. He did
not make application for pension or tell any one
| so. lie came here with Mr., g. T. Babcock, who
wanted pcnsion and the witness promised 70 aid
he would give him something. Babcock did
not come hero originally to get pension, but tried
ness to hunt up Col. Craig, and he had no other
business in general or particular BE6cIch Esd
pawn for his board, and It did not get out until he
went into the Government service, and the Govern.
mcnt took u out He had not seen Col. Craig since
S T%S hS mex me in s Louis an ho N hs T
that passed between them were in consequence Of
the letter. Up to that time he had not been ap.
letter, in substance, said that he Craig alone was
entitled to collect tbs claim and that unless he OBJ
tanned certain evidence II would be lost and cost
him 5000 10 reproduce II and straighten out the
case Tho original letter was here brought forth by
the defense aud showed to the effect that Col Craig
tried to get the witness here to explain the incon
sstency In the three affidavis that he had made in
the case and thus save the claim and evidence con-
nected Herewith.
The witness said that II was from this letter that
he inferred he was to get 5000 If tho claim was all
right
Craig, showing that he only expected at that time
$50 TO pay his travelling expenses, and declared
that he would not move an inch until that was
He said that he meant
TO TALK RIGHT OUT
when he wrote that letter. He could not show in
II any demand or supposition that he was to re-
ceivc 5000 for tho service to be rendered. His
expenses from Dallas to DCnnison were about $50
and the balance Of the $3.50 sent by Col Craig was
used in paying private debts. He did not expect
to get the 5 that GS Cs ssS S9 did ssGaSs sGS
National Bank Of Dallas. The gentleman did not
owe the witness any money. and the latter had
nothing To his account in the bank, but thought
that col. Grover would honor his draf,
lie was willing that Col. Craig should think he
needed the $50 to pay his hotel bill and could not
leave until that was done. When he got the money
he lelt for st. Louis and met Col, Craig at the Lin
dell House. Amer drinking together they went to
the Planters Hotel, where the witness baggage
gagged there for him by Col. Craig. That evening
he inquired II the witness could not correct the
discrepancy OF word In the affidavit. aud he an
swered in the affirmative. The next day the wit
ness made the affidavit before the commissioners
and shortly aftcr Col Craig len for this city. Just
before going he promised that witness should hear
from him. and directed that he remain at the Lin
dell Hotel and he would send him funds
him tSn wiiuossI sSn If he sfcrncdnd in Setiine
the pension. II did not amount to much and he
could not recoeCt about Il. Babcock was sick.
either one half of 1t or 500 They had fight, and
witness had Bnbcnck arrested. When he got rooms
in this city Col Craig went his security for the
rent. lie asked Craig for money frequently. IL
reference TO witness connection between himself
and Thaycr regarding the exposure of the alleged
FALsITY or THE CLAIM,
he replied that the Government paid his ex
penscs and Mr.. MarcOurt's. Mr.. Wells objected TO
Gen nutlpr ask ing him in rafprnnpp a his pm nlOy
ment IN the Treasury, and the court sustained the
objection. The witness admitted that the Govern
mcnt paid all his expenses. lie supposed his ani
davit caused the arrest Of Craig and Briant. The
trick OF getting tfntg aud Briant in the room was
suggested by Mr. Carter (The court excluded any
piled that the court had excluded what had been
caught IN the trap, and he was desirous that a
,bn chance Ss Afforded to have the @pPer caught HE
which was also objected to. Mr.. Wells said that
the letter had not @ been presented before
told Williams to go to hell
The Court. He didn't GO.
Gen. Butler. II Is not time yet Iaughter.)
The examination of Williams WAS next turned
toward his connection with Rogers, the -clan-
agent and witness said Rogers gave him 800 to de.
fray his expenses, This was when he came to
| Gen. Butler. You agreed to commit perjury for
that sum. That aifidSvi, was false, and you knew
| It was false Of the time you made It.
Witness. | got the money to make that affidavit
| Gen Butler. And you knew II was false.
witness. Yes, sir !, being an otfCcr on Gen. Cur
tis' staff, they said they wanted my affidavit.
| gave II to him. He gave me 500 and note fol
$500; that is all know about IT,
| The statement was as he represented
Gen. Butler read the affidavit, aud asked " every
| word In II was not false.
| Witness. He Rogers said II was good and jus
| claim. The next person who called upon him was
| Mai. Swayne. He did not understand from Mr.
Rogers that he was to swear more than
ONE FALSE OATH
in regard to the claim. When Maj. swayne cam,
to the witness he dictated another affidavit of tn,
particulars of the former one, and the witnes
swore to Il.
The afRdavit was read to the witness on the stand
and he testified that he swOre to 1t deliberately as
lie, and this affidavit was made for the Government
1t was not made to support the first paper that h
swOrG TO.
The counsel then read a third affidavit made b.
witness for Col Nugent which he adlnitted TO be
lie throughout, from beginning TO end.
lie next appeared before q United States Com
missioner at st. Louis, where he gave answers to
certain prepared questions, and swore TO theil
verify. On the stand he admitted their inlsty 81
far as he knew neither Brant nor Craig had an!
reason to believe that he committing perur,
in making the atiidavits; neither did Nesent MOI
Mccarthy have reason TO think so. The frst maj
that he told Of the alsity Of the papers was Capt
Thayers of Kansas, and the next was Mr.. Curtis
who hired the rooms into which Mr.. Brisnt was Il
be inveiged. He never had a conversation will
either Craig or Briant about the afdavits AM
aud make no disclosure lie was in the school
land office In the state of Wisconsin, under Gov
Foster. He did not learn that there was an.
trouble about the State funds and did not go ava
in hurry. He never saw or heard OF fraudulen
bonds among those of the school lands and III
charge that he got them up.
The witness occupied the stand during the entir
day,