The New York herald., 1877-11-01
HAMILTON FISH.
The Ex-Sscretary of State Firing
Diplomatic Grapeshot.
GRANT INDICATED.
Wendell Phillips "Remembrances"
Fiction or Delusion.
SUMNER AND ST. DOMINGO.
SUMNER AND ST. DOMINGO
Whose s:Brain Refused to Work.
Presidents or Senator's?
FORNEY'S TESTIMONY
Indiecriminate Faleehcod and
Misrepresentation.
[BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD. I

[BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD
Bosroy ocI. 81, 1877.
The harvest Is not yet exhausted OF interesting
State and diplomatic developments growing out OF
the interview which New York HERALD correspond
ent In Scotland had with General Grant recently, in
which the latter was represented as uttering some
severe criticisms on the integrity of tho late Sem
ator Sumner The latest contribution to tho his
tory OF tho controversy, In which the deceased
Senator and cx-president tho distinguished
parties, Is made by Secretary Fish, who hus also
figured somewhat prominently In the discussion. MIR.
Fish, It will be remembered stated In a recent inter-
view that Mr. Sumner had been guilty OF delaying SOW
eral reports OF drafts OF treaties while he chair
man OF the Committee on Foreign Relations. This
statement raised doubt in the mind OF Edward l.
Pierce, Of this city Mr. Summers biographer and that
gentleman Immediately called upon Mr.. Fish, through
the Boston Transcript TO make his general statement
specific and name the treaties to which he referred
The ex.Socrctary, in complying with Mr. Porce's r,-
quest. has written long letter from his homo
IN Putnam county, N. ", in which ho submits
specific statement Of treaties, not "drafts or trea-
tics' which had been transmitted TO the Senate for
It's action, and referred by body tho Committee
on Foreign Relations while Mr. Sumner its chair
man, ana which remained Enacted upon ut tho time
whom he ceased to be such chairman.
MIR. HAMILTON risns STATEMENTS.
They are nino in number, and are enumerated by
Mr.. Fish as ioows:-
Fira-Mexico, protocol signed October 90, 1862
to conrm the validity Of the organization OF tho JOINT
December o. 1867 referred 10 the Committee on For
eien Relations december 5, 1869; approved by tho
Senate March, 1871.
Second-Colomba, Daricn Cana. treaty OF Jannary
~, 1870. Submitted to the Senate March 81, 1870;
referred to committee April l. 1870; still pending be-
ioro the Senate bu. not having It's approval
at the ond OF March, 1871.
Ihird-peru, treaty of friendship commerce and
navigation OF September q, 1870 Submitted to tho
Senate December q. 1870; reorrcd TO the committee
December 8 1870; approved by tho Senate March 81,
1871.
Fourtd-Poru, cxtradition treaty OF September II,
1870 Submitted to the Senate December o. 1870; re-
ierred to tho COMMITTEES Deccmber s, 1870; approved
by tho Senate March 81, 1871
FUM-Guatcmau, cxtraal,ion treaty OF October II,
1870 Submitted to tho Senate December O. 1870; re.
and approved by the Senate March 81, 1871.
SirM-Nicaragua, extraditaon treaty Of Juno 5,
1870. Submitted TO tho Senate December y, 1870;
ierred 10 tho committee December $, 1870: amended
and approved by senate March IL, 1871.
SecenM-A ustra- Hungary, naturalization treaty OF
September 20 1870 submitted to Tho Senate Decer,-
ber H. 1870; referred to the committee December IL,
1870; approved by the Senate March -. 1871.
EighM-Saivador, treaty oil amity, commerce and
consular privileges, of December q, 1870 submitted
to the Senate January u, 1871 referred com
mittec January 1871; approved by Senate March u.
1871.
yiafA-Grcat Britain, Naturalization Convention Of
February %, 1871, supplemental TO that oil May 13,
~,
icrred to tho committee February 2S 1871 approved
by tho Senate March - 1871
PROVING MR.. SUMMERS NEGLIGENCE
Mr. Summers appointment chairman Of tho Com.
mttcc on Foreign Relations continues Mr.. Fish
expired the 4th OF March, 1871. HIS successor
was appointed or about March 10, 1871. II will be
observed that OF these treaties had been re-
ierrcd TO the committee nearly fifteen months before
the expiration OF Mr.. Summers service as It's
,Aat nd otyt rc
upon and approved within three weeks afior tho
appointment OF his successor. In presenting this
roply to Mr Psorce's "inqury" may be permitted to
remark that the statement which has given tho
inquiry Is new and that revival this tnc did
not originate with Tho fact is that a largo mum.
bcr OF treaties had failed to receive tho
OF tho committee at tho time when Mr. Summers
appointment as its chairman expired. He not
removed The rule ofthc Senate requiring the appoint
mcnt OF Its standing committees at every session was
commented upon at the time, and in connection with
his failure TO be rc-appointcd 1t frequently and
publicly mentioned and was stated in public speech
by u republican Senator, madc in Cooper Institute,
July, 1872, during Mr.. Summers life time, and with
reference, II rccoIlcct Alright to statement at.
trbutcd TO Mr. sumner that when his term as char
man OF the committee expired he left but one treaty
not ted The list gwen above publ she'd
aud, as appears from an extract from newspaper
now before me. answer TO alleged denial by Mr..
sumner OF the correctness oil tho statement made IN
the speech above referred to by Senator In Cooper
Institute.
WHAT GENERAL GRANT KNOWS
Recently, reported interview with General Grant,
In Scotland, no said TO have repeated the state
men,. A few days ago. whilo was in Boston, there
appeared Of tho journals OF that city the report
OF speech, said to havo been madc the previous
denied the fact, and asked
When did General Grant first find this out against
Sumner? Why did they not think OF this bcloro ?
Why never uttor It TIL nowY No, this charge Is an
attcrthought.
General Graut found this out wnilo MI. sumner was
still Chairman OF tho Committee Foreign Rcla.
tons. Tho Senate then knew IT, for thor Official jour
na showed it. II made public, aud, as nave
stated. referred to in public speeches during the
campaign OF 1872 and, as appears, attracted SIR
Summers attention, and was said TO have met hi.
denial.
WENDELL PHILLIPS CORRECTED.
IT It DO that Mr. Wendell Philips hears OF IL now
for tho lrst time no has beon lcss acauis,tiyo O
information In that direction than no ia pcncr
ally supposed 10 bo TO most matters IL !,
possible that Mr. Phillips may hnvc uttered all The
Inaccuracies which appear In the report OF his speech
but II no said. as he IS reported to have said that Mr.
sumner never was absent from the senate an hour
he either spoke loosely OF that which he did not but
ought to know, or ho spoke inaccuracly OF what ht
did know. And when he says that .'Mr. Sumner told
me Mr. Phillips) IN tho last year Of his lie, 4
was absent an hour till tho last twelve month"; ~
he either misunderstood what Mr. Sumner told
him, or convicts Mr. sumner OF u statement which ID
not true Dir. sumner. II is well known. was abscni
from the Senate for many weeks niier the assault
him. Hc made two voyages to Europe IN 1857 and
1858 or 1859, and was absent from the Of the
scnatc In the spring OF 1851, ana from nearly all, u
not tho whole, OF tho session oil 1888 and 1859 In
letter written tho OF Of his voyages he
spoke oil his vacant chair perpetual speech"
AN ArpAREsr LIBEL GRANT.
Mr. Philips has thought Nc to Indulge IN an impu-
taop, not 10 be mistaken. that when General Grant,