The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-09-16

made them hurry up ana pay tncm
A scorcher for Tamnany Hail.
The auestionor continued: You say Mr.. Hall
complained to you 2" and the witness answer
cd. He did not come TO complain about 1t. It
was In his Office. | went over TO sec him about
n bill Of Garvey's to which there had been some
delay in obtaining his signature. and asked
him why ho hadn't signed 1t. and he said.
Your people are holding back they are very
slow in settling up" | found out what 1t was.
Strengthened his matter out. and he signed
Garvcy's bill in n few days. He always seemed
satisfied with the five per cent
Odd you have any conversation with my
other member Of the Ring about tho payment of
these percentages? A.-About tho tirne this
thing was put in tho tax levy-I may confound
tho tax lcvy and the chnrter. hut think am
right-about TINT time Mr.. Peter Is. Swceny,
Mr. Hal. Mr.. Connolly. and myself met In ono
the money as at first suggested. ten per cent. to
Q;-The four Of you decided upon and agreed
(Which swceny? A.-Petcr b..
| .,Q.-As concerns tho payment Of money to
| those clerksY Al had nothing to do with It,.
ceili to cgc6 Of YOU Hall 2. i. Swecny. Con-
cent to ench Of us. two and onN-half to cnch %
the Young mon, and five Tor the reserve fund. OF
| which Mr.. Watson Should he Treasurer.
! Q-N ltson ami Woodward were the go-be-
| twa.usy A-Yc-. sir
20. And Woodward represented your A
,.Q.-And Watson represented Connolly1 A
Q'-And who represented .Po,cr d. swceny ?
! Al. VI. Swr"ny and Hugh Smith.
/ And who represented HnllP A.-Huch
Smith particularly. hiieyc. Ny conversations
son or Woodward separately. or with both
pr.scnt They lid the work together.
sentod thcsc bogus bills? X.-fne,rsol was The
! prominent outside man working with Mr..
/ Woodward. Garvey was one: Keyser was one.
! Pretty much everybody who drew money out
under that Board Of Audit had an arrangcment
and paid, think might safely say everybody;
| Q.-And what did YOU mean wncn You said
almost everybody IN Tammany Hall had a hand
IN the charier OF 1870? Al don't know that
! | said SO, but II wis a fat nevertheless. | mean
| everybody who was II leader or representative
man had something to SAY about IL
Q.-Tnll is every name you rcrollert who had
! anything to do with ~ A.-well. in the first
| lH'". the senator's wore spoken to. John J.
Bradley md myself. Then ir.'iy mrrgh Y very
who represented O'Brien. and then pretty murr
everybody at she tim. representing the different
| crganllniions in each ward.
Odd understand that the charter was in
eii,ctnal J,r raising money a, All, ana II becai.e
l. efcac.ous; Al desired it to be so under
Q-Besides the flvc men you have named.
1 who know of this clause inserted into the tax
/ lew giving this power, Al don't think any
body knew except ourselves. The charter we
consulted gr"at many people ON. but this was
| special matter.
Q.-I am 5psakinS Of the clauses II ithe, ta{
don't think anybody knew We didn't ourselves
! know of how far they would reach: but aft =
some discussion We determined that WIS the
Q.-Did unyhody except YOU five men know
| that these clauses werc inserted into tho tax
levics for the purpose ol raising money At the
expense OF the city and county trcasnrio, or
not Al do not think anybody did. was in
| I