The New York herald., 1877-11-16
HERALD FRIDAY NOVEMBER 1s 1s77-TRIPLE SHEET

word to the Senate, said he, but !. expresses
my idea. As Il Is now proposed TO organize the army
by this House bill We would nave II, s63 men IN the
artillery and cavalry regiments leaving 2537 men for
the infantry, or about one hundred men 10 regiment
or ten men TO a company, while the Revised Statutes
provided that each company shall have teen non-com-
missoned officers. ,Laughter) This was the way Tho
tning went 70 the country surely there was no WIS
dom in Legislation OF tins sort he did make any
sppaors would % the hs rmg asss,e for
the presen. year shey would ana We had iol
commissioned officers The stan officers alone
numbered 56a The pay OF soldier was $l3
month or $3.50 year. whle tho pay OF The command
ting general. with his allowances Tor quarters horses
enough 10 pay regiment Of men A colonel In the
army received as much rs a whole company Of mon.
he hoped the committees OF The Senate and House
OF Representatives. would ook into the organization OF
the army and put y ~ some shape where u would
not be ridiculous He did not mean 10 mako
the officers Gu the contrary, he would give all those
now hanging around Washington employ IN car
ing tor the Indians as he always believed in the man.
aeement OF the Indians Through the War Department.
Mr.. SARGENT, OF California, inquired II the senator
lMr Becky dld not think II wouid DO we'll TO bring up
the inexpensive part OF the army 10 some efficient
standard IN order 20 project our frontier.
Mr.. BECK replied that he wanted the frontier thor
oughly guarded and protected, and he was willing 10
DO all that was necessary Tor that purpose II en-
pioymon could not be- found Tor officers, let them
,rs 70 the walks Of private lie He hoped plan 70.
forward at the next session. when proper deboration
could be had
Mr.. THURMAN, OF Ohio, inquired II the amendment
proposed by the Committee on Appropriations allow
ing cavalry regiments TO be recruited TO 100 men In
each company, and providing that sufficient force OF
cavalry shall be employed In the defence Of the Mex-
can and Indian frontiers OF Texas would not authorize
an increase OF the army beyond 20 900 men.
Mr.. WINDOW replied he did not think t would
Mr.. THukMAN said he would be careful not 10 pro-
woke discussion on the Army Appropriation bill
now. The officers and mon OF tho army had suffered
long enough tor want OF their money. and he Tor
VAS willing pay interest 10 them, but did seem TO
him that on An Appropriation bill there should be
legislation Az to the organization OF the army that
was matter for tho Military Committee 10 consider
maies on Apnrouraaions SAID the DANGER Of ncreas-
Ing the army was guarded against by the amount APP
propriated IN the bill There was not the slightest
possibility OF Increasing tho army with the amounts
named in tue bill
MI BURNSIDE, (rep OF r. l., said under the present
law, as II stood, the Secretary oil War could not
recruit the army beyond 20, 900 men.
Mr.. ALLISON, (rep) OF Iowa, argued that under the
Revised Statutes the Secretary War could recruit
the army 80, 700 Congress had in the appro-
pration bills Tor several years past limited the army
to %, 900 men, but the general law allowed 200
Mr., BURNSIDE said the secretary OF War himself
construed the law as limiting the army 10 rs, 900.
AMENDMENTS.
The amendments reported by tho Committee on
Appropriations reducing the amount Tor expenses OF
the Commanding Generals office from 5000 to
two pay ma ssters' clerks were agreed TO.
Tho next amendment reported by the committee
was to strike out Of the House bill tho provso 'that
iorce OF four cavalry regiments shall DO recruited to
400 men In each company, and the same shall be
ployed the defence OF the Mexican and Indian
frontier OF Texas" and insert lieu thereof the ioi-
lowing
That cavalry regiments may DO recruited 100 in
each and kept near practicable at that
the defence o the Mexican and Indian frontiers OF Texas
The amendment OF the committee agreed to.
The next amendment OF the committee was to strike
out Of the House bill the proviso that nothing herein
contained shall authorize the recruiting tho number
hospital stewards, beyond twenty thousand of whom
four full cavalry regiments shall be kept IN
the Mexican frontier In Texas"
Mr. fHURxAN, oil Ohio, moved 10 now concur In the
recommendation OF the committee striking out that
proviso, which was agreed TO- he then moved to In
sert the word hve alter the word "twentyn as TO
forbid the recruiting OF tho army beyond 900 men
instead OF 20 0o00 the number mentioned In tho House
bill. Agreed to-
Mr. WiNDon moved to strike out the last clause OF
that proviso the words 'sol whom four fu cavalry
regiments shall be kept IN service on the Mexican
| frontier IN Texas" Agreed TO.
Other amendments Of the Committee Appropri-
atoms agreed TO as follows:-
Reducing the amount Tor construction aud repair OF
hospitals from 500 900 10 $780, O00 and striking Of
the House bill the appropriation OF $40 900 for the
conversion OF ten-inch smooth bore guns into rifles.
When the last mentioned amendment was being
considered Mr. BECK, Of Kentucky said he understood
that therc were u number Of such guns which could
| be made serviccabis oy the expenditure Of small
| sum of money
Mr. WINDOW, Of Minnesota said some army officers
entertained the opinion that many OF guns
converted would be iar moro dangerous 70 our own
| army tnan she enemy. The Committee on Approprl.
ations was not sure that thcy could be successfully
converted, ana therefore thought best to strike Out
| the appropriation.
In inc clause making appropriation tor tho engineer
/
rcad"For the purchase OF engine erng materials 70
continue the present Of instructions" &c, In.
stead Of "presont course Of tnstructiOns,o &c.
Upon tho clerk reading It. Mr.. EATON, 0l Connects
cut, suggested probably u was curse Laughter
The bill having been considered IN comm ttoe oi tho
whole reported 10 the Senate, and tho question
1 being concurring in the amendments made
miitoe Of the whole, Mr.. EATON demanded separate
on the amendment limiting the army TO 20, ,000
men instead of 20 900. He said his opinion 20 600
men enough to take OF our interests the
front,er II tho soldiers had not been station cd
mt Inn m lhnra
nave been no need OF that carnage on our frontier
which have seen.
The amendment made Ia tho committee agreed to
| yeas 80, nays 10, ss folows-
Burnside, Cameron Pennsylvania Cameron Of Wiscon
Chaee, Christiancy, Coke Conking Conovcr Davis
Illinois. Dawes. Dorsey, kdmunds, Garland, Hamlin
| uoIr, Howe. Ingalls,. kirkwood, Lamar, Mcmillan
doiph, Rollins Sargent, saundors spencer Teller, wsd
| leigh and Window "a
NAYs- Messrs. Bailey Barnum. Beck, Cockreil. Davis
West Virginia. Eaton Gordon. Harris Hereford Jones
Florida McCreery. Mcpherson. Merrimon, Morgan, Ran
som. Thurman Voorhees,. Whytc and Withcrs-l9
Other amendments made committee OF the whole
wero concurrcd tn without division and tho bill
l then read thiru time and passed.
IL goes back TO the House OF Represeu tativei
tor the that body tho senate anne IL
Mr. DAVIS, tdem.) OF W. Va, gave notice that TO
morrow he would call up his resolution In regard tc
tho discrepancies IN tho books and accounts OF The
Treasury Department, and would submit some re-
marks IN regard thereto.
The Senate then. at twonty- -dvo minutes past two
O'Clock, went INTO executive session. and whom th,
doors were reopcncd adjourned.