New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1877-09-13

the las. soss,on Of the Committee gave y0u tho
following waning: shall ask yol az tine next session
of tnis Committee the Names claims ana dates OK
te transactions as far rs You cin 10 all bills or claims
which were presented the Board Of Supervisors from
the year 6l 10 20 inclusive. watch passed by tho
Board OF Supervisors by corrupt means" A-Nou reco
lect also that you promised 10 furnish me WIN do'u
ments know you have made your best endea'orS 10
find them for you have sent me quite large numDr OF
books and haze also endeayorel to obtain thcm' but
cannot
Q.-What DO you wantl Al want inc uocun'n'S Vi
6s 90. 20 aud IL
Q.-Thosc documents have been unaoe 70 ootaih III
THIS city, and should De extremely glad, II ANYBODY IN
the city has COPIES Of thoss books II he would furnish
them to the Committee. Al h ard today OF gentle
man who Is supposed % have them. ana u can h"u
proper messenger, | will send for tnem.
OFT would desirable for the reporters To say thas
the printed documents OF the Board OF Supervisors irom
,6 10 II inclusive MOI IN existence In any OF ho
county officers Alt impossible for me 10 get tHen
Mr. Counsellor don't know now can send or what
eau do Once IN Whle can seI he'Se"'e'' 'N' - -
only once in a while.
o-Now Mr. Tweed recurring 10 what We have de-ig.
mated as the Supervisors Ring, prOr to the pase oiae
act OF 1870 winch put those matters Into the hias oI
tho OF Audit who composed that Supervisors Rnst
Al have got to 90 back to the records again
o-You have answered il already. A.-Ihat Is ths
proper answer ,,. =, ~,
walter Roche Henry Smith, Andrew j. Beakly Isaac J.
Oliver James Hayes and John Fox A-At Vailous
umes-not all at one time
o. wish you would explain the manner IN which
these fraudulent claims presented to the Board OK
suneryisors-who made the arrangements with tao
tonts-,nd trace the whole proceedings from the be-
innipg 10 the end A-Pretty nearly every person Who
had business with the Bead OF supervisors or furnished
toe county with supplies had friend in the Board OK
snnerysors-generally some one member OF that ing-
and through that member they were TAXED TO- ana
the result was their bills were sent IN ana the per-
centages were paid ON the Ohi-Soue'ihSS V"e man. ANA
sometimes another.
o-some one OF these six or seven meni A-les' SIR
o-Would the claimant be informed by the supcsyis-
or whom you desguate as his friend IN the Board 'has
he must mako his bill bigger than 1t really wasi A
Yes sir so that he could afford pay fifteen per cent on
or whatever was asiccd on
oAna this fifteen per cent, or whatever agreed
On was oad TO the party In the rngi A.-Io the party
who gave them the Information.
oDid all of these bills have a bassi A.-Up TO 20
guess they all had basis. think they all had
good foundations Large portions OF them were proper
bills.
o.-That IT, for some sum another they were bona
| aael A-Yes, sir, Tor a large amount very nearly tho
| face. guess.
o-And the plan was 70 add fifteen some per cent
TO the face Of good BILL which was 10 be divided among
the members Of the rinei Add either IN the quan.
| THY Of the materials or the price,
! Q-Materials or w0rki Ayes, sir.
| o.-Ini, understanding WAS made between some enc
| or more members Of the ring and the claimant A.
ORIGINALLY il was bat finally Il drifted into my hands.
most all Of II.
oDuring that period were any bills allowed TO pass
the Board OF Supervisors which ehtcly bna hde
AYES sir great many Of them.
Q-And you think II you could get hold OF the docu-
ents OF tho Board Of Supervisors for those years. yoa
60 I'D separate the good from the fraudulent bsi A.
would know the individuals who paid the fifteen per
cent don't know that could designate what portions
OF those bills referred TO and what not. for don't
know that ever knew. The aggregate what knew
| net the items.
Q.-You mean TO say You knew that certain per-
sons who were in the habit OF doing work ard hrnsh
ing materials TO the city, also In the habt Of addns
rauluontly TO their bills and you designate those
personsi Al can designate those persons
Q.-And some OF tie billsi Ayes. sh.
O. have been unable " find those documents any