The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-11-11
TILE GREAT ARMY QUESTION.
urNDREDs or MEN RECRUITED IN DE
fIiNCE or CONGRESS.

urNDREDs or MEN RECRUITED IN DE
fIINCE or CONGRESS-
Two Full Regiments In Washington Four
Regiments Of Cavalry for the Texas From
tee Speaker Randall asks he Goiycr
Garfield u Tointed Qucstion-The Debate.
WAsnINGToS. Nov. TO- Mr.. Banning
Dem Ohiol asked leave to offer resolution
dr,at ng the VI ilitary COMMITTEES to inquire into
hc total number of ON ,crs and enlisted men
in the army IN the LIST ofJuly. lat Of September.
md the Isl VI November 1877 and whore such
men have been employed during the present
fiscal yrar the number and rank OF all officers
ON the retired list the number and rank Of all
officers ola the active list. and to what duties
h., nre assigned the number and rank OF
tosr officers absent on leavc. the number and
losntion ~ MI posts and forts. the condition Of
ana r. On the Mexican frontier the number and
chara, ter of the troops on that frontier the con-
dttof military operations there and whether
any additional military protection ought to be
provided for the defence of the border against
Indians and Mcxicans. and giving the commit
tco authority to scnd for persons and papers.
Mr.Con.cr rep. Mch) objected ~ the clause
authosil ns the committee to send for persons
AMI papers.
Mr. Banning withdrew that clause. but Mr..
Grflrld Rep. O) objected TO the resolution.
md il w's no, received
Tho Hous, thcn at 10 25 p. NJ. went into Com
mit,cc of the Whole Mr.. Cox. Dem. N Y. in the
clair on Tho Army Apr priation nil the pond
tug amendment hr that oil red Ivy MIR. trit-
t'uicn tDcm. MOI limiting the recruiting in
the cavalry anl Infantry To the number in the
Slr. Bmks uicp.. Mass addressed the COM
Mite. and reat letter viii IA h. had received
fr'fn lady who hal spent some time last fall nj
one of the frontier posts. st ting that the con,
d iion of the IN IN there wis very dangerous and
calling att ntion to the lat that English insur.
aurc compani's refused 10 insure the lives ~
UnNrd States officers, because the I'm It'd States
Government exposed the lives OF OH ers too
Sir. Crittcnlon Dem. MOI asked Mr.. Banks
how many soldiers were now stationed in Wash
Mr Bonks renlicd TINT hr had not the slight
est Information on that subject, He WIS speak
ing Of thc soldiers Dn the frontier who were de-
IriVcd of all things necessary To enable them 10
dc'end the posts viii h they occupied.
Mr.. Critieulen said that he understood that
there were two mll regiments stationed AZ
Washington. Mny w,ro those regiments not
removed from tn city to the fronticr2
Mr. Banks asked why the gentleman did not
orr an nm"nlmont 10 that cnect..
Mr.. Critt"ndcn said that the President had
The power to remove the troops. Why had he
Mr. Banks answered that his understanding
WIS that the President had no money TO trans
Tnc question was taken on Mr. Criucnd.n
am ndment AMI 1t was reicCtcl by vote OF lO4
Mr. h,kins ,Dcr.. Tcnn.l Chairman Of tho
Appropriation Committee. snnt To- the CLERK :
d'sk and hal rad q communication from the
Adlni.'ni- genera. referring to Mr.. Atkinss
EpHrru on Thur lay. in which he stat Il that
the Secretary Of War Rad Given the number Of
troops in service, ON the 31th 81 q tob"r MS
II 1863. and that lie had sent dcspat N 10 the
Adlutnnt-G General requesting NOR. dntlni;e in:
formation 70 which dospai ii he had received
no reply. The Adutant- General SAYS that he
did send Il tccgrnphi' rcply 70 this despatch.
giving the number at y ,9O2, and saying that il
haA be- n increased hy 30 since his commune
~ the Nnik Of q t.ifr which with tho
whoa 'Sam6sr zl,3o3. Mr. Atkins Went On %
tn Aiiutant-G neral had not h'rn received.
AMI that nero was no trace oi II IN the impress
non boob of the telegraph operator ~ the Cap
jio and ne called attention to the fact that since
The dr N of the bill had b ,cn common I'D the
army aaf ns,n ncreas,d by oy,r y hhandr
Appropriation Tor recruiting Iie would not
make anY comment upon this fact; It bore its
Mr. Clvmnr DEM Pal member Of tho An
Ironr ail1n committee. added that the stite-
mlire WAS that there were no FUNDS on hnnd
Mr. Atkins or course that was the statement.
Mr.. Foster thcp.. Onlo)-This IL very unfair
mir. Msins-I have only stated tho truth II
Mr.. Foster is unfair.
Mr.. An ns-l ha'r only stated the truth, and
TrC Sn S" tDrm.. Tcxas) m rcd an amend
ment providing TIA. four Of the cavalry rrgl-
mrns snaL i rniId i2 ig2 ,n N r@ Gc
fence Of the Mexican and In ION lronters OF
Mr.Atkins Dem, Tcunl oTered as an amend
mcnt 20 the amend m"nt II proylso lin ~ mo
number Of enlisted mon TO 10000. which was
Mr. Cymcr moved as a substitute for Mr..
Cumbersome amendment n provision that the
recruiting Of enlisted men shall be limited to
sHa b. 4 XIII T uron Hu the Mcxian frontier '"'"
Mr.. Garfield tR'r., Ohiol made tho roint Of
order that tho amendment intericred with tho
right oi the President to command the army,
AMI was therefore ont Of order.
The Chairman replied that that was not prop
Air tNmor's amcndment was adopted. III 10
IL. and Mr Cusbcrson's amendment as thus
Mr. Wei>'r tDem., va 70 Iercl IN amendment
Mr. uarlis,d drip, OAiol made the point of
prl'rihA tAe amendment proposed new lcss-
IN, point Il order was sustained.
kin.'s marks "a the Adintant Generals som
murirat.on. charucterl1'd them as an unfair
att Is. TIA q nnral az the army when before
tn cqnnuoe had not pretended to give the
actual fore Of the army. but had given tho
army. and ,ao Aiiut,n, -Gcneral Ind .urrcd
WITH him. lIc hal not understood them 10 say
ma mere WIS no author ~ Tor r.cruilint. pat
MI C'ym'r-l they had no money, how did
NJ -, r. How DO they run tho army itself
Mr. cirn'r--lf the Pros idcnt had called Con-
gr.ss tortfer they would have mad tho money.
Nj Blackburn dem. Kyl. Tin reply 10 Mr..
tou.
Mr. Foster-It has run. has it not2
Mr bgrkburn- shall show how II has run
NJ. fos,.r-we will be glad to have you
NJ Treklurn wa will.
Mr. fa-ier-lt will be- a how that the country
VI nn aldrn WHOM the facts are u Ter
std sac honest part ui tlr country viii be-.
NJ AZ Dor r.plirdto Mr.. Foster. denyina hal
J." ifa Shown auy temper or dono any Injustice
to- tHit .lor Aluiint General
M IDN I'd. o., ONO remarked tNat n inc
Inu. -.iur oars ago had adn pt "a IN" proposi-
|n.' W. i'n ior of ONO Tor admission 70
T." lNog,f 'iH sais of drperfmcut- in ur'lri
.." Infuri dI,u go tho House. Il world 81
rYnr would hive hon saved.
Mr IHN 'pen. y. ~, having come down
ft.Hi 'l ...' ilr. Ted totho plan ot bus name
.W p.ip 81 hrnring tho Cabinet intc
~" ii.n-e in orior 90 ..Ne i!.ut.nuion. H.
u'4, .ru Z" lNs, .ur Tear g, Mr. Coz OF ono
nn-ht ,nH rHtgken for Mr.C.N.f s9mcwnrr,
,l-". H. suw thnt he ltuy ~ New York. had
b. ny tur rn. 'tinACincinnati paper FOR LAX
in- ep.. .'. which NJ. Co.'S Of Ohio had maAe
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