The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-03-27

CAPTAIN JOHN aoRsE CONFIRMS LEES STORY
FURTHER PROOF OF BRIGHAM YouNG's IN

CAPTAIN JOHN aoRsE CONFIRMS LEES STORY
FURTHER PROOF OF DRIoHAM xouSG's IN
PLIcATIoN.
SAN Francisco, March IS, 1871.
Ono OF tho morning papers here publishes an inter.
estng interview With Captain John Morse concerning
the Mountain Meadows massacre. Tho gentleman re-
ferred has agurcd during many years OF an event.
full lie As q frontcrsman. prospcctor. trapper and
trader and IN Utah prior TO tho Mormon settle
ment and for many years after IT, Al The time OF tho
massacre no was living with some bands OF Indians
not moro than thirty miles from Mountain Meadows
and two days aner the tragedy ne visited tho
and the mangled bodies OF tho slaughtered emil
grants lying on the ground ~ they had been loft by
the destroying horde OF Mormon fanatics and their
allies, the Indians.
BRIGHAM Y0UxG's COMPLETELY.
Captain Morse was intimate acquaintance OF Lee,
and this departed saint IN u conversation occurring
years before the trial. admitted 10 Morse has
completely In tho atrocities, but, a. in big
declarations, threw tho responsibility OF the buchcry
upon Inc leaders OF the Mormon church. ana directly
Brigham Young. Morse disputes Lees statement that
there were 500 Indians present. calming that there
wore not more than 800 In that whole section OF tho
country. The butcnery was planned by Mormous and
almost entirely done by them the Indians not killing
over hall dozen
rLuxDER the oBJEcr.
He says plumber was the chie incentive to the
sacre. Al tuat time the Mormons excessively
poor, having no money ana scarcely anything else.
They would trade their produce with the Indians
for old clothes. Tho train was very rich and
cited their cupidity. Morse very much with Leo
during his residence In Southern Utah. and the latter
unbosomcd himself freely the subject Of the
Gre. which seemed TO dwell on his mind shat no
stantly reverted TO II.
INTERVIEW WITH LEE.
Concerning the implication. OF Brigham Young with
the massacre Morse relates interview with Lee Tho
last time saw him was IN Mahon county. went tn
his ranche and he received letter; IN iact brought
II to him myself, from place called kanab, which
stated that troops were on Lees track hunting him
up, and he had better move a little further. lie
showed me the letter and said 'Lee, this all
ernal lie; thore ara no troops Jour track ut all.
THIS Is all put up ny those Mormons In ST. George,
where Brigham Young was, whom Brigham has ln1u-
take my advice and 10 into tho Gentle camp givo
Yourself up and mako u clean breast OF the whole
thing and you will get along first rate" asked HIM
II Brigham Young was Interested In the massacre. He
at ,nrst said no" said ! knew better.
and ho sad, ''Or thcro no uso
lying 10 you; rs u matter. Of course was under
orders. brigham Young knew everything; he was
with mo from the time We lott salt Lake but the in
tention was TO let them pass on 10 Muddy aud then
catch them ut Muddy. Do you suppose That any OF
they would lave entered into this IL they
had not believed tho Mormon church, aud that this
thing emanatcd from brigham Young, their Mormon
prophety"
WHY CAPTAIN MORSE NOT A WITNESS.
Captain Morse says no attempt was made TO procure
his testimony further than that no sent for TO
attend first trial. but no dd appear being down
on tho Colorado River, near Fort Yuma Lee WINS con-
ldcnsai with him on account Of their frequent soil
tary compsnionshp on PROSPECTING and other expedi-
OF information from tho Indians Captain Morse Is
U resident Of this city.