The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-05-29
The Universalist Pastors Paw and
Claw Each Other.
The Needles Sweetser Sits On to Tun
to Marlin Spikes.
THE POLICE CALLED IN.


tho Unvcrsalist Committee Discipline in tho base-
ment OF the Beeckcr Street Church. occupying the
whole morning and afternoon sessions In the evening
the regular defence began Mr. NcCarthy's argument
was close to the point and though long, was listened
to with iutcrcst by large audience. He character
lied Mr. Swccisers action as suppressio rcri-
tho bascst Kind Of lying. hr. sweeiser 10
protest. Mr.. Mccarthy silcnccd him by saying
that the pins and needles under him would
grow 10 marine spikes before he had done with him.
Not ono OF the committee, no said. would sustain Mr..
Swcctser In his dirty work or going around Albany
a detective IL very bad for the Gauge that
young Ike his should be so much In
want OF ballast as TO place himself tho hands OF
those ehattercrs in pcttcouts, who having developed
into that uncertain ago OF womaDhood when all hope
beginning TO be lost have developed into corrc
spending abnormal condition OF mind so that there
certain correspondence between them and
his accuscr. On certain conditions they
sbled stand In the outer court and worship
their fellow man, whom they never could hopo 10 up
prosch In anything hkc connubial besseincss Hc
mad stood up for the cause Of Uuiversasm to remove
what be considered be canccrous In the ccclesast
cal system. Was tina: any reason why he should be
brought thcrc by more beardcss boy, who had not
yet cut his ecclesiastical eye testh9
YRsxp IN NEED.
In reference to his s'volation OF trust" Mr.. Nc
Car,hy SAID that regards Church doctrine he was
perfectly in harmony with the committee II be had
not been there plenty OF CHI riches could have
entered, but he refused oil oilers OF hts
faithiuncss to Uniycrsalism. To prove this no re-
viewed the history OF his struggles Tor Tho Or
daincd Episcopal clergyman he had lett that Church
because OF his belief In the doctrines OF UnIvcrsasm
He sacrificed by SO doing El, 200 sterling ($6.000)
year. THIS was matter Of record God had sent him
proof 10 tho person OF q minister Of the gos-
pei who knew him In London and whom
he had not seen Tor seventeen years until
last Sunday when he walked into the American Free
Church. Whom he saw hrs venerable brother the men,
cries OF old times arose, wben Mr.. Mccarthy was In
England loved and rovered by ALL when no drove In
his own carriage and had hisown picture galley, when
no used lecture TO audiences Of people in Exc
ter Hall. Notwithstanding his "maunerisman The
man who could testify to all this was present. and as
he believed, sent by God to help him. Since BIO had
last known him this man bad been chaplain in the
English army IN the Crimea had come 10 this country
followed the army OF the Potomac and wns now pen.
stoned by tho United States government at the recon-
his letter OF resignation to the Archbishop Of Cantcr.
bury bad lett friends aud fortune and fame all Tor tho
Uuiversalist cause.
venerable, silver haired gentleman, whose name
was afterward ascertained TO he Rev. John Cowan
hsre the audience and SAID, "Tha is all true
his services Tor the Church Mr. Mccarthy became
greatly affected Tears rolled down his checks, and
many Of the audience were similarly affected. Even
Dr. SAKE placed his hand before hs eyes 10 hide
something
Mr. Mccarthy then went on TO relate his struggles
since hs arrival In this country at Philadelphia in Al
and in this CITY. In each place tho people had
become dissatisfied with HIM. on account of his
expelled from the society Of pastors on this
account Now, II was that after all
these years he was 70 BE- brought 70 trial for violation
parture," by Dr. Brooks, ot Philadelphia, In which
stronger language than he had used concerning
the abuses that had crept into the Unvnst churches
employed concerning the whole Universallst de-
nomination. IT he was TO be expelled for saying that
which Lad been asserted by OF their leading minis
ters lie would have 10 20 gu. OF the Church But ho
would continue TO preach the faith that he and his
judges both loved.
recess Of one hour was here taken, and tho CON-
mittec retired till three o'clock.
THE AFTERNOON SESSION.
The afternoon session. an hour and half long,
occupied by Mr.. Mccarthy In continuing his opening
speech He characterized Mr. Swectser's offers OF
proof and papers, which are Tor the most part held for
Identification, miserable abortion OF evidence" lie
defended the character Of the American Free Church.
which formed the grounds OF ono oil Mr. Sweclser's
Church. He did not consider mat there was anything
IN u contrary to universalism. ON the
eighth charge M the
The committee decided that its production would be In
the latter's discretion 'God help the man that is at
hts discretion replied the accused He protested
that he defending his character aud did not
to be misunderstood by the public .The New York
partial and lppant jcsury in lending article this
morning. Tho ghost Of Horace Greeley STANDS
on the tower weeping l,n s. tina; unfortunate ave
lager beer and his Presbyterian ecclcsiasticism."
tGreal langhterl he then returned 10 the affidavit
OF the President OF the Board OF Trustees the
Nashua church. Tho words .'somc liked him very
much, others did not" were uscd In this document
reference 10 ME McCarthy's preaching. There was an
elllpsis here he said. Did not whats He would sup
ply it-"did not like him so much,' or Every muchr
He then explained TO tho committee that he had had
tnAft nA
tneir pastor, but not an Official CALI Mr.. Swectscr
asserted that he said he had had call and thereon
based the charge oil ialsehood.
rnn sight PERFORMANCE
AT seven oclock the trial was resumed The lcisnre
OF the hour and the nooricy Of the trial mad attracted
large crowd OF over three hundred persons. which
before the evening VAS over had increased to fully
live hundred Mr. Mccafthy concluded his opening
speech alter about an hours talk, making
In all nearly seven hours that his speech
had taken The case was then opened for the Defence
the FIRST witness called being Mr. Simeon b. Van Blu.
rem. He had been pew hoiucr the church and held
pew No. 60, near tho register whore he was much
noyod by mo members OF the sunaay school and
OF the members and trustees sitting down there aud
talking and laughing the NOISE OF which came up
through the register He was going on TO relate
Of order. Mr. shook protested against this ruling
emphatic LANGUAGE Colonel Ethan Alien. the legal
bearing any argument on the subject.
BEAR GARDEN
Upon this announcement there appeared a scene OF
the widest disorder Mr. Shook cndeavored to protest
but the rapping OF the Modcraor's pencil accompanied
his words. The crowd filled tho small room
where the examination was being conducted and
were standing on the benches in the
main part OF the basement They Wig
orously applaudcd Mr. Shocks protest and
Kissed at the Moderator voice cried, '.Adiourn
the meeting Mr. Shook continued his protest, and
by advice OF Mr. Allen thu committee ordered him
SIT dawn. He refused TO do so and threatened TO
leave the room. Mr. Mccarthy said that In
that case Lie should leave also Another
round Of applause greeted this remark.
Tho Moderator shouted, .Order! orderl' Mr. Nc
Cartby jumped up and said, My friends please keep
quiet" Dr. SAKE said, .'We shall adjourn the court
close The case" and turning to Mr. Shook again
told him TO sit down. Mr. Shook said
81 don't recognize anyarght in this Court to tell me
to SIT down.
The Moderator threatened to clear the room.
Voce--''You can't do ~ tCncers.)
Mr.. Shook said he thought the right OF argument
could DO settled then and there. Or. SAKE said, al
want you 10 SIT down" Mr. Shook-''Wcil, won't
do IT," Great appause.l DR.. SAKE asked, "Who are
those people hercy' looking Mt the crowd. A voice
cried, "iramps." tIlisscs) Mr. shook-"fhey are