The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-02-01
UNIVERSALS7S At WAR.
Sudden Break Up of the Mccarthy
Sweetser Trial.
SHAKING THE TERRORS OF THE LAW.
Vehement DenunciatiOns-Lively RejOinders-
Universal RuctiOns.


meanors by his brother pastor, the Rev. E. c. Sweet
ser, held yesterday In the basement Of the
Blocker street Cnlversast church. before the Com
! mttee on Ordination and Discipline. The same five
members Of the Ecclesiastical Court were present
| The proceedings were FIRST orderly than on
the previous day but the extraordinary scene ut the
unexpected close OF the fairly beggars description
| In its uproarious confusion.
Mr.. Hulitt's crosse Examination continued. He
said the pastor was dismissed by them within three
months. After few other questions Mr. Mccarthy
asked :-'Now. sir, your honor. was dismissed9"
Mr.. HULrTr-No l don't believe you were ! be-
| eve you dismissed yourself
This evident contradiction created quito sensation.
Mr. Lppencott, OF the committee, shouted, 81 don't
| like TO hear you browbeat witness.'
Mr.. HULIrT--I won't answer him another question
unless the Court will protect me. Mr. Mccarthy has
nsued every witness that has been this chair be-
fore. don't to be led into answers ha. don't
intend.
Mr. LIppEScorr-The Court should protect tho wit
ness
Mr. Mccarthy then read from the OATH OF Mr.. Hulitt
before the Court OF Common Pleas. that Mr. McCarthys
| engagement monthly engagement at $500 q
| month during Mr.. sweetsers absence.
! Mr. HuLIrr-Or until Easter.
DR.. FISHER tof tho Court-Mr Mccarthy, this is
| bal hair splitting.
Mr. McCARrHy-I consider that every word of it is in
| strict law
| The Court then accused Mr.. Mccarthy of taking up
too much time .'why" said the latter "Mr. Beecher
took six months judging by the proportion OF ratio
and size, ought to got six wceks' Mr. Hulitt went
say that the engagement closed ut Easter. re-
marking at the time that the question had been
| asked before. Tho examination continued amid
such pleasant exchanges as tho following-
Mr. McCARTnY--Didnt you, Mr. Hutt, shake hands
with me after it was decided to pay me tho money they
| didY
| Mr. MCCARTnY--When you shook hands with me did
you believe the money paid me was blackmailY
Mr. HuLlrT--Yes sir; most decidedly; paid the
money most grudglngly
| Mr.. McCARTHY-And you shook hands with person
! you thought was blackmalling your
Mr. HULlTr-Yes, SIR. shook hands with you.
Mr.. McCARrnY-Dldnt YOU sec Mr.. MacAdam shake
| hands with me, or hcar him
| Mr.. HULITT-Hear him shake hands with your
Mr. McCARTHY-Hear him speak to me. sir.
Mr. HUIarT-l can't say; l didnt shake hands
with you OF my own tree viii.
| Mr. McCARrmy-You did 1t, then, act OF n.y.
pocrisy. Now, when was IL that the Idea Of black
Mr. HuL,rr-From tho time you wanted much
| money for a settlement.
that the first offer Of settlement suggested
by Mr. D. J. stagg, and that when member OF the
Board OF Trustees asked him for how much he would
| settle then he nrst mentioned money.
| sir. Staag next called TO tho witness stand By
animation the latter gentleman submitted an agree
ment that Mr.. Stages words should not DO used by
| u
| recon ended that the document DO signed by tho
| two pastors Mr.. Sweetser signed It Mr.. Mccarthy
10 sign Of On sns s
that Of It's proceedings shall prejudice the rights
OF any before the laws OF the State. He was will
ing sign IL his solicitor agreed He had already
begun suit for libel against Sir. Sweetser in the Su
preme Court for $4,000 damages Dr. Fisher, OF the
committee said he thought that Mr.. Mccarthy should
subscribe TO the paper II would be In accordance with
the practices of the society and he hoped Mr.. Mo
Carthy would be satisfied with them. "Quite the
trary,, said the latter, 81 protest against many Of
| them"
Dr. FIsuxR-You have accepted them all in receiving
our fellowship.
Mt. McCARrHY-I object object, especially to hav-
ing received all your evil practices
| NIT TO the rules Of tue New York State Convention
OF the Universasts, or to the General Convention"
| The rules were then read.
| Mr. McCARrHy-where the conditions set forth are
complied with submit to them; with one exception,
however and that that in opposition 10 those rules
there several good men in fellowship who are en-
trely engrossed the business Of earning their bread
and butter and nave no church-that shouldn't be
there. am ready to sign nothing, except with the
advice of my legal iather coniessor. Every witness
says, be held responsible for It before court
OF law. will consult my solicitor about signing the
agreement The Court then adjourned until two
O'Clock 10 give him tne to consult his solicitor.
| THE AFTERNOON SESSION.
At two O'Clock the proceedings were resumed Mr.
MCCARTHY said that by advice Of his counsel he refused
sign tho agreement presented The Court then put
TO him the question whether he submitted to the
rulings OF the Court and the usages OF the New York
State Convention OF Univorsalists, under which he
held fellowship and whether he would abstain from
any interference with the conducting OF tho case by
appeals threats Of appeal resort to other tribunals
which must necessarily embarrass their proceedings
and prevent them from getting ut the facts OF the
| INDIGNANT REFUSAL
| MIR. Mccarthy answered that he would not submit to
any infamous stare chamber practices Of the
| ''Suppose this court condemns me-" said he, al
have an appeal IN our church TO higher court, and
| then another appeal"
Mr. SAx., Chairman of the committee (rcading)--
.By the rules and usages OF the New York State Con-
venton OF Universaists II was the duty of Mr.
If hA hal Va1 nf nhn In
brought against you to bring the charges upon which
are now acting. Have you instituted a civil
action against him on the basis OF his complaint"
Mr.. McCARTHY-Yes, in connection with 0thcr vcr-
bal charges. which will form very important ele.
the investigation, and which will take place If
we live long enough, in the Supreme Court.
MIR. SAKE (agan reading)- "Will you withdraw that
ing against him or any other person in tho case
| before usY'
| Mr. McCARrHY-l must solemnly refuse l say God
willing, that will carry out this case 10 its utmost
limit. and also that Will prosecute any witness who
| may SANDER mo before this court Great excitement
THE CoMMTrEE's PROPOSALS..
The Court here took recess of fifteen minutes to
| consider this startling announcement on Mr.. Nc
Carhy's part OF his intended course OF action AMER
an Of half an hour the Court returned Before
announcing their decision, Mr.. Biddle who had all
asked leave TO address the Court PERMISSION beng
gwen he said ~ think the whole discussion might DO
| ierninnted here in very simple manner-by Mr..
Sweetser withdrawing his charges" The latter gentle.
man jumped up and shouted, "Mr. Biddie has never
| ,nsulted me before that know Of; but anything
coming from an outs,eo party this regard in
| q light vi that kind You have my answer"
TRIAL BREAKS DOWN.
Tho Court, through Its chairman, then pronounced
the following dccis on 1.-THE committee. on consuta-
ton, have unanimously come TO the opinion that the
position occupied by Mr. Mccarthy and the answers
he has given 10 the questions propounded virtually
place MIN IN contempt of court; that IL makes It I'M
possible Tor us TO go on with the investigation with
| any reasonable hope Of eciting truth. We have
agreed substantially on verdict, and will write II out
and send 1t to the parties. The court Is now adj.
| Journod."
MIR. McCARrHy--I would like here to put in my ap-
peal
MIR. SwEgTsER--I should like to know IL have the
| right TO bring iorth my other witDessesY
GENERAL BREAKING OUT.
Mr.. McCARTHY-"l intend ~ appeal from the decision
| OF the Court, whatever II is. ! shall appeal IRON
Cesar Ccsars master. Continued rapping order
by the chairman Mr.. Mccarthy In a laundering voido
l..r1ua 4 Xon NIL haar mn Ii In