The New York herald., 1877-10-25
AN AWK WARD WITNESS.

CONTINUATION OF DR. LAMBeRr's EXAMINATION
IN I'VE AMERICAN POPULAR RErEnEKcx---
SOME AMUSING INCIDENTS.
The reference bcforc Mr.. Ira ID. Warren In the caso
Of tho American Popuiag Life Insurance Company
again assembled yesterday. Mr. wingato appeared
for Receiver Lawrence and Mr.. William barnes tor
some policy holders.
Edwin ). lennox, policy holder, was Arst put on
tho stand aud testified that he was tho lumber
who had been induced TO exchange his old contract
Tor n now one for tho purposes of so-ca'lcd cen
tennia dividcndn lIo was not aware nj the time Of
the surrender that he was sacrificing his reserve.
Tho examination Of cx.Prcsldcnt Lambert wns then
continued by Mr.. Wngae. He was asked II no really
believed the American Popular 10 have been solvent
during the years 1876 and 1877. Ho answered that
the word solvent was only once used in the in
surancc laws OF tho State 10 clause which provides
that II tho Insurance Department believes company
20 bo solvent IL shall pay tho interest It's bonds
or stocks deposited at Albany. Tho American Popular
paid In tho fall oiis7d Tho witness was asked
about the possession OF various stocks reported IN tho
assets OF tho company, aud replied hat no believed
such securities 10 nave been in the Office OF TIE
pany, Dnt he would not swear positively to having
scen them.
DETERMINED gSpLAIS
Frequently the witness indugci ~ llttlc icsty
eparrDs with the examiner, aud their lrst breach
from Il strong Inclination Of tho former TO
"cxpain" whenever ho saw NJ regarding previous
questions Thc following specimen OF rascibility oc-
Cured Just as the witness was tunching out upon
subject that had already been put aside by tho
iuer.
Mr. W'nsatc inicrrupt'ne--I must object TO your
thus nverting my questions.
Mr. L,mpcri-But want to explain
Mr. Wirgmc-WeI, you can do thai aftcrwari.
Mr.. Lambert tdctcrmncdiyl-l'il do u now.
An appeal was had to tho referee, who decided
against tho witness, and snid he could make hts .'cx-
pianatlons" thereafter. Whcrcupon Mr. Lambert bor.
rowed a lead pencil and vigorously EIadc notc OF
whnt he intended 10 express.
good deal OF tmo and patience were consumed In
discussing an important loan reported TO have been
made to MI Jonu +. rrow by tho American Popular
aud Tor which stock OF the United states Publishing
Company was gvcn rs security. The witness avoided
giving any definite Information upon the suDjcct ana
only admitted any knowledge of that particular loan
whom a receipt. in his own handwriting, Tor tho
security gwen by Mr. Trow was prQ.ented 10 him.
4 THOUSAND YEARS As dNN pAY.
Oncc the nonotony Of tho witness nden nto
method OF ,estiiylns was broken by the oI'owing:-
air Wingatc--Do you remember when tho iDjunc-
ton was served on the company
Mr. Lambcrt-V.e-r-y distinctly.
Mr. Wiuga,c-Iiow long ago was that
Mr.@Lambcrt-lt 1t seems to something
thousand years, judging from what have expert
cnced since.
Tho Witness was submitted to a close questioning
regarding number OF his rcccpts, gwen TO the
pany Tor money At different times. lie presumed Tho
amounts wcro paid Tor expenses. but no kept
account OF his disbursements as president Two
ccpis OF The witness were produced one Of May 1871
''iOr expenses incurred In fu TO date, y and oi
April. 1877, the items IN which reached bacK 10 ls6o
Tho discrepanry was not ully explained BY The wi
ness whose memory was very vague ON Ill his IMAM
cal transactions with tho company.
AND INSURANCE.
The witness asked " any dividends had boon paid
by tho company tbat were uncarncd. At this ,Ir.
Lambert iausGed convuisivey, and his counsel OBJ
icccd TO tho question: The witness, however pre-
ierred To answer and said cnphatcaIiy 1.-Two never
been rascal or lawyer from my youth up, and +
never intend 10 bc.n
'rno legal profession, said Mr. winga,c, rs much
obliged 80 you, Doctor"
''Inc legal proiession,o retorted the witness
.'wonld be obliged very much II Two thrce us good
men as myself would go intoit.n
After moro sparrng, in which the witness by
means got the worst OF IT, he gave hi OF Inc
dividend paying business, aud said that he and
oi the other officers would have preferred the div
dcnds should have been kept IN the company 10
thought they had earned all that had been paid ia
tho way OF dividends. lie had bought stock IN tho
company only few months before II iaiicd, and hero
hc suddenly corrected the expression aticd, y anu
sad the company never tailed, but broken down
by conspiracy.
Mr., Wingetc asked tho witness n certain question
several times IN different iorms ana was answered
without variation, II don't know evil you swear.
then, that what have stated not true ~ asked no
examiner. NO. sir," said the witness, promptly
"l' swear that don't know anything about - and
then he addcc, with emphasis, ''I'd swear great
deal " Vt would help matters at ali.o
The examination OF President Lambert was about
concluded, and tho reference adjourned uDti Fri
day.