The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-09-30

A. tTntcrrupting)-I have no doubt the records
will show the date. tho records OF the depart
q. iContlnuingl-And the amount Of the claim
ie s5i $50 so, With interest from the 18th Of De-
that coniracti Ado. " " ' ~
ANOTHER CORRUPT ADVANCEMENT.
Q.-Was there any. corrupt Arrangement be:
tween Nelson, the plaintiff in this action. and
Q.-Whai city officials were concerned In that
corrupt contract? Al stand in the same posi-
tion on that as in tho Navarro suit
Mr.. Cole Thought his position was very differ
en. rs he was already upon the stand in ihe
Navarro case. but not in the present one. Mr..
Townsend advised his client to answer the
Mr. Twecd-wen. It was made with mo. tho
corrupt nrrangemcnt was. lwasthen Commits
Q.-whnt was IT. .A.-That the specifications
Of tbc contract. should call for largo, amounts Of
CURED allowing him to sid larss @ o for Tie az pipe
that we would use and small for the pipe that
We would not.
Q,-And the agreement wns that the large
profit from this unbalanced bid was to be dvd-
cd \. lnterruwinrl-T PEI, cent was to
come to mo OF the amount Of the bill.
V.-Was ihis ten per cent 70 come to you as a
tract' A.-For arranging il SO that he could
obtain II contract, and 50 that he should obtain
tho work on profitable terms.
Q.-How do you mean A.-Well. say
would call for &C. ~. and j2-inch pipc. Of which
We werc going TO use hut'a small quantity. and
Will'tl - nEil- IlIf llhluTuly anu tll'n
large quantities. Tho contract was awarded
upon the. whole, amount ofprc, mentioned NTH
specialization. We'll. we would call for "a large
amount Of the high priced pipe that we didn't
want. and small amount of the low-priccd
pipc We did want: or the other WAY. as the cas-"
might he The contract also had clause al
lowing ~ tocnl for more or less OF tlfe pipe. as
We might dasire--morc or lees that is, than the
SPECIFICATIONS mentioned. When tho Md cam,
in for the high priced pipe-say LOCO feet called
for-the bid was, say $40. and for the small
or Sl1O. or 81 20. Tho aggregate of those was
tgkcn rs the bid. and, Of course. man knowing
low for tho high priced nine and HIGH Tor tho
pipe thnt would be called for most. at the same
time making his aggregate estimate much less
than one who did not know what would be
called for. 80 that the outsider would be- beaten.
Q.-And was there between Yourself and Nell
son an arrangement of this nature. TINT he was
informed that the specifications were not TO be
followed, wien tho pipe, was actually called for
clause in the contract which allowed the Depart
ment to call for what they pleased. My neeo-
tiations were not direct with Mr. Nelson. how
ever did not know him.
Q.-You did not make your arrangement with
him in person A.-No. made 1t through my
deputy. Mr.. King.
Odd he represent 10 you that he had seen
Mr.. Nelson in person Ale did.
Q.-And that he had agreed TO this arrange
TwEED's FORMER DEPUTY COMING BACK.
Q.-And after that. were tho amounts called
for under those Specifications charged in ac-
cordgnce with the agreement which King told
You he had with Nelson A.-They We're as
called for by tho Department. rs have said.
| This statement am now making have made
see he has since nolle prosecuted the suits
against Mr. King. md suppose he will be here
soou 10 testify for himself ia the matter
| Q.-Had arrangements OF this nature been
made before this contract with Nelson in rc-
gard to sewer piping A.-Prior 10 that time the
| Department, the power OF making which was,
under the charter OF 1870 vested in the Street
DO you know OF Nelson's having any other
| contracts before this one? Ale had. think
but do nof knew their nature or amounts.
| Q.-Now, wns this arrangement which King
| told you he had had with Nelson. and which
| was subsequently carried out. made before or
| after the proposals We're advertised fort A
Before. the specifications were prepared and
they We're prepared before the advertisements
| were Issued
Q.-Who prepared the specifications? A.
| They were nladeby Mr. Trnccy. the Chief OF the
Engineers Department, / think. and. think
| Mr.. stevenson Towle. who was his subordinate
Q.-DiG they make the specifications in the
! manner you have stated. OF their own motion,
| or did you direct them 10 do it, Al directed
them. They prepared. the SPECIFICATIONS ioi
what they required. and directed them to be
Q.-To meet the requirements of this under,
standing between you and King and Nelson
Q.-To whom did you give those directions
A-Mr. Tracey and. think. Mr.. Towle; but
Q.-And the alterations were made in accord
Odd you tell either otthose engineers youl
purpose in making those aterationsf Al
/ think not. sir.
Odd anybody oppose your ideas or drec
tons. or crticise your alterationsy A.-Thel
might have done so without my .reeollectnG il
But nay will was law there and II had ordered
anything and the party ordered had not done II
that party would not have been there the mex
day.
,.Q.-Now after, the contract was awarded t.
Nelson under the specifications which wer,
subsequently altered. how lonl. was it befor,
the alterations were actually madey A.-Thel
were not all called for at one time, There wer'
two ways in which pipe was received: : one wa,
| 10y delivery Mt the Corporation yard. the othe
diretto contractors on orders from the depart
ors Just ms If furnished from the yard. anC
credited to Nelson n II delivered there
Q,-And the charges IN the specification, wer'
made as the different bills came in z A.-NO: /
was done as general thing. without rcferenc,
TO particular bnis.
TwELD's TEN PER CENT.
Q.-And your share Of the profit to be derived
from this arrangement between yourself anC
Nelson was 10 be paid 10 you in the shape of I
prrcenlageo On the gross amounts Of the bills
Q.-Who was to share 1t with your A-No
body That waS an arrangement my own.
think Mr.. King was To be paid something but
have no distnct recollection about that. | un
dersrod that Mr.. Connolly was paid also, bu
that was not through me. however.
Q.-iiow did you know, when those bills wer
presented. whether the articles charged ha'
-
| There WAS a certificate or receipt given to Nj
T0wle, tine head Of the bureau. by tho gentleman
who had charge of the corporation yard.
o.-Do you mean to say that you depende
entirely upon the certificate Of some one per
son in the Engineers Department? A.-En
trely.
Q.-Then you do not know, in point Of fact
they were delivered? A.-No other way tina
from tnat receipt and what appeared at the ioc
OF the bill.
After number of questions and answers
which merely reiterated the matter alread
brought ont in this connection. Mr.. Cole too
up another toplc.l
ODD any Of the city departments durin
your term Of Office have any dealings with Jone
& Goa ;taiionersI A.,All of them, | think,
O-How was that hrm composed2 Al be
= lieve OF Mr.. Edmond Jones. VIM. G. Rogers. ,
Jarvis Jones. and another gentleman. who's
name / do not recolert. but who is connected i
my mind with the Johnson Rotary Lock Com
pany. / do not knoS' that anybody compose
that frm except i. Jones and Rogers. butt be
| leNe the other gentlemen were connected wit
it. Rccoller. am giving my memory fror
, seven years ago, and some Of IL ten years
I Unless | say positively, do not presume TO L
understood as speaking with absolute certaint
q on anything.
t Q.-Thcre arc four suits brought by f. Jone
= & 60. against the city for stationery furnishc
| md uriutiufr tlpue for the eit 1,