The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-08-22

aged to recucs proportions OF the msch moro
than they have done recently. snd seq all know The
causes.
rhrisG DISCUSSION
The President called Dcpuiy's attention to tho
fact that he was entering the whole question
not sticking to his proposition which was merely
ASK tho production o. documents General Salamanca
replied that he was not TO enter into the whole qucs
ton no would shut up The President said he had
gone beyond the rules Tor long lime. waen tue GOV.
crnment produced the documents gave Tho expana-
lions referred TO IN the proposition, then all
MS observations might be oppoftuns This was IN
reality cIappsr Oh the General for at least six or
seven months. The General. however, was not 10 be
"done" Ho said ne believed he had a right TO give
the reasons why he asked the documents and the OK
plantations. and as no had asked them IN Consequence
OF the present state Of the DO evident thai
he ought to treat OF the same. IT, however the Pres
dent thought he ought to suspend so 70 give tbs
government tho opportunity Of explaining" thsre
anu then, he would do so. ana then he would Resume
This was caker for the President, who ssw Il was
trying TO interrupt the pert nacious opposition
General lie 'old him no nigh, 30 on.
General salauapca proceeded say that at rst tho
authorA found tho traders and proprieors disposed
10 mako the greatest sacrifices At the slightest In.
dcsuon abundant supplies were forthcoming. The
troops were well paid, well clothed aud well fed. But
attn grave dangers ahead. These the
excessive prcponderAncc Of certain oeinenIsr The
alluded to tho Havana volunteers). who, guided by
excess of patriotism, utilized perhaps by occult OIL
busters the interests 0, certain pcrsons'' (ausou
doubtless. to the Zuluctas, Calves, Mapzancdos,
Lopezcs kcl or the slavery sustaining, government
contracting clique Of the Havana Casino, imposed
themselves tho authorities and produced sccnes
all remembered ian aliuson to the student murdersL
and acted against "a certain general iaudiug 10 Duice
in the war all remembered, and forced ''othcr gen.
erals" to acts which, although they might have been
necessary for the moment, lowered their prestige
authorities The result what could fail TO
be- Some drawn much beyond where they had
wished TO 60. Others had lowered the principle Of
authority for tho sake of serving private interests Al
antagonism sprang up the very breast or the
Peninsular element itself, which deprived tho au.
thoriy OF all potent support ana deoadsnos
OF the spirit OF union.
THE GRAND THE WAR.
Ho next spoke OF what he thought had been the
grand mistake in the conduct war from The be-
cunning apart from tho volunteer troubles. This was
tho abiding confidence in its prompt Termination.
eve should have prepared for II as II Il was going
TO be lasting. All generals chief who know thor
duty do that and Tho result would have shorter
and less costly But we did not do other In
Cuba or In tho Peninsula In both II occurred that
private friendship or the presence OF such such
general, with the resources 10 be gwen him and tho
policy Il was supposed no would acopt, or DO ordered
to adopt would suffice end the struggle Those who,
impatient demanded the retirement of because
he did not progress fast enough asked calm and pa
ticpt Judgment their favorite by his results,
and shus both and have been carried
with paltrness aud irreHecton. It just as II evil
could be cured AZ will by saying It Is cured aud IL Is
jutt as II both had not deep roots.
OPTICAL DyLvsroSs.
ha Al ia his ike the form
are optical delusons for wo look at Cuba through tho
prism Of press restricted by the government in
nerced by the government restricted by mistaken
patriotism, or responding ~ the passion OF party.
Read tho corrcspondences from the Island in the
various Madrid papers, and II you FIX your attention
on the conceptions and even the styles you will
1nd they generally appear to DO from pens you have
always on the sido of certain persona - This
q terrible cut and ono we'll Understood In the
House. for 1t 10 secret that subveniions to certain
papers regularly paid by tho ''Havana Clique" to
procure support from somo and slcnoc from others,
aud is said that where monay refused tickets
OF tho Havana Lottery readily accepted Any.
thing every thing 70 distort oocurrcncss keep the
Of aifnirs IN Cuba OF the public sight Ia
has been tho policy Of all Madrid governments
since the insurrection broke What is said of the
press Of Madrid Is said to be equally applicable TO the
| Spanish press OF Havsnn and OF New York.
GeDorai SALAMAECA-A8 TO tho lonn-tho "savatorvs'
loan for tho armyt resulted insun,ciontly and It has
had 200 900 reals which has all besn
consumed.
MINISTER WAR--Not q cont
General sALAxAsoA-Then am delighted Mt what tho
Minister says for no will be able TO pay the ten
payments and bonuses owing to tho army. who re-
cevcd nothing out OF the FIRST part OF tho loan no.
body knows Tor what 1t has been employed Years ana
years have passed and wo as badly OIL Tor worsc
wcro the first day. And what Is sth rs that
IL VIC follow the present system OF military operations
and OF credit ovcry day, In my conception, wo shall
DO worse president rings his boILl will do what
tho President wishes II no Will permit TO con-
tnuc will DO brici, because If tho government an
swers shall have be exhaustive In my reply I
desire only now TO touch tho political question very
slightly
Woe PREsiDENr-l am disposed to coucsde to YOU
ali that tho rules allow, but you have outside OF
them for some time and I call you TO the Ques.
ton.
General sALAMAsoA-Then limit myself 70 ask ths
explanations from tho government and when they
give them Will continue Ii they don't give them
they will have proved that they don't light OF
discussion In that shall insist ny all the means
afforded mo, by the rules at present. and often a.
the Parliament rs open may DO open.
CHARACTERISTIC REPLY
The Minister Of Ultrsmar madc u long and oily
speech In rcply. He accused General Salamanca Of
having acted precipitacly Tho attitude cvidcnt
expression OF the Chamber tho best answer the
General could receive proposition he could leave
the consideration OF tho Chamber sho country.
Ho twit.cd the General producing proofs Of
hts assertions, contcndcd shat Las Villas and
| tho centre wcro moro tranquil and orderly
| than they even before tho
! rising Of 1868. Tho rebels had been driven TO tho
juogles Of ORIENTAL where thcy were reduced TO In
significant proportions In 1874 tho burning OF panta
tons IN Las Villas quito extensive. Now. II there
might DO the deputies should rccolicct that
| a half dozen with OF matches between them
could NJ night In the dry season, Gro tho finest
estate reduce II TO ashes he had always been an
opponent of the sending out OF small rciniorcemcnts
lnr they wero doyonred moro by climate than hv