The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-09-19
NuiiN ing the People. Vote.

Nuiiify Ing the Peoples Vote.
The witness havine been nsked To testify with
regard 10 tho management Of clect ons for the
city and county on r- and general elections.
when hc ia Office re- Piled ilat lac controlled
the elections.
Dwell. now please tell me VIVA, the modus
opsrnndi of that Was A.-Wcil. each ward had
representative man who controlled matters
in his own ward. and - whom tho various
| mcmhcis ~ tho General Committee looked up
10 ior advice and Instructions how 10 carry the
elections
o-Thr General Committee of Tammnnv
Huliy Al don't know anything about that
ur-an ',ation.
Q..m-whai advice do you mean was given
Q.-Woll. In Gus Won wanted particular
man elected over anothrr2 A.-W,ll. we should
count the ballots in bulk or without counting
them Gnnoun e tho results in bulk. or change
the totals from one to the other. us the case
G,"Then the ballots cnst nado no difference
H. 10 the result A.-The ballots made no re-
su.~-th" counters lnadn the result.
oui aid. could in A.-That WINS generally done
IN every. ward 10y the gentlemen who had
chnrse 81 the ward.
by ono. and tell me who had charge Of that
WORK FOR you as iarqs You can rcnrmi-'r theniy
who were interested IN carryin. the elections III
! large.
Q.-Namc only those who. 70 your knowledge.
! did hpve something 10 do with what is vuigarly
| called stuillng the ballot boxes.
Amor some discussion this question was re-
| modelled into nnother form.
Odd you ever give any directions to any
persons TO falsify or change the result OF the
actual bona nde ballots Gust in any election A.
| 1t WAS put more In the nature of n request or
n sug.,"stio than direction.
Odd you suggest that TO anybody? A.
Odd those persons agrce with You that
| they would do sOS Any Impression is that
idea tha, they did.
Q.Woll. now. after such request did tie
results indicat, To- you Ina any cs,s, that your re-
quest had been complied WITH Al think ii
Q.-Wcn now. will you state 10 tho committee
the names of all persons, 50 far ~ Won can rec
| oll".t tn whom you made such requests when
the results Indicated 10 your mind that your
| requests Ind been complied with; At Is
matter of inn, sshlity. Ii was Ia pretty much
| every politician who WIS an active man and 10
! every lendcr IN tho wurds. hut | cnunot now t"A
| the individuals, or IL" conversations. or the
particular results from those conversations |
| can give the names ofthe parties who controlled
Mr Coc-wen: 1 will take the words seriatIln
| AMI ask you-l Hes it!!tinl.l
Mr. Tweol tCalmlyI-Wcl, what is the qucs-
! Q-Will you please state II YOU over gave any
/ directions a. ANYBODY in the First Ward during
any tine that you were connected with cliy
polite. the intention 81 which wac, 10 indu q
anSwcr' Us to that aud 10 every ward in tie
city-the whole twenty-five wards.
nI,Wcli 10 whom Al cannot. however.
!
! from year 10 year. Every Year there wJT!d he
some on" that would have To 80 aud some new
mon would be put IN. those IN whom we had the
most confidence AZ the time.
C-ls there no list Of those mon now In exist
sort have been destroyed long ago
q NY Ad. Co"lnS II you were furnished
with list OF m"mlrrs OF the Tammany Han
you could point any out Al cannot rely upon
my memory TO do 30 positively. i"ar. They
were coming and going. year after year. like
shadows, and generally made ns little impress
! sion on my memory. some may remember
| however. | can give the names Of the parties
VINO had control IN the various wards, hut
could not tell in what years they had control.
Do. you mean TO say that the persons who
| had control Of the wards were those to whom
| you gave those instructions. or of whom you
mndc those requests A.-As general thing.
Ind those understand ngs Al cannot | am
| willing To II could. because there isn't man
| that have any regard for or that intend to
spare. am hcre 10 tell the truth. and the whole
| truth. and DOM intend TO screen anybody. Ii
l even supposed any man was guilty d give
his name, but don't even suppose ANYBODY. 1t
| wns 90 long ago But I'll think the matter over
| between now and the next meeting. and II can
think Of any III give them TO you. But don't
q, IBy Alderman Cowngt-Hnve you any per-
| sonal knowledg" Of any fraudulent nnturazli-
! ton papers being issued in lShsY Al huVp
no rsonal knowledge Of IT, hut | have no
d9Hii thqt such is tno fact ,howmrv"r. ..,,
! q. lliy Mr.. tulrl Now. Mr. Tweed. you said
| q, the last meeting tuat you paid MI Hugh J..
! llastlu-- s2O0o0f Al dad.
O FOR hl- services in relation 20 the passage
OF The charter of 1870, and that YOU pald him IN
achr,b and that YOU could pr1dncr ihc check.
the checkY Al will sir tPrrsentlng it,
! have since the last meeting posted myself on
dates. and ! find the chtrtor was passed on
| TUESDAY April D. 1870. and on the ensuing Sat
urday Mr., flnsIng called on mo to ret that
check. so he wasn't willing to wait long Tor his
Q.-What did You give this money for' A.
gave it for his advice and eNrrtions in passing
the bill known as the Tweed charter.
IL W lttt his lI.lpt