New-York tribune., 1877-09-17

oradepSe in him as To his discretion and intelligence
.s To apVboiy or ANYTHING he was identified with.
Q.-To MS what instructions were SiVen |" ,'o,;'rs
We're SSV given to Woodward and watson-Conn9lly and
gave them instructions Ssey were
made that so per cent should De deduTeu @ hii were
made payable should pay 90 per cent oi INC e"""0
amount ,., A., ,o0o 90 ,he hill
au6 hand back 10 Woodward or Watson 9o per cent VI
'1 a What ere th"v 70 do with that so per cent?
A-They were give 10 rer cent 10 me- 10 per cen. ~
Connolly, 10 per cent to James sweenE Tor ie'I III n
tire amounts given 10 James sweeny were Ii.hue ] Ua
Peter b. sweeny and believe ne alu set" ih}n abont
them, OF course Woodward aud Watson gehota. te
ceiyei ncr cent ana the balance used as sink
Ing und for general purposes they used 10 hold thet
Watson man of considerable WeSth' anu NV ~ ISL
10 hold it, the understanding was that was 70 apoNe
the bills ss Chairman OF the Board OF SUPERVISOR
shortly after tais ARRANGEMENT was eompeaeu. ~
ten days afterward Woodward brought me Patch "a oi
bills. which wrote my name as hartman nv nv "o ~
brought with him a certificate TO Ie sghco @ ~ te. i
Board Of audit each member under n,s P,yprb be,".
these signed IN blank, quite nnmDet 1 t"e.u r,
Approved and correct over them Nv mr9oV 80 DIV a
words papers authorizing the ConoiieI 10 @ bS
warrant fr the amount of that u hau 70 "e @ t
the Mayor and Controller; Watson and woodward To-
geiher did know which did II hey hau
ably tree or fonr DAYS aiter-Wason stated that Con
molly wasn't satisfied with ms 10 per vent ~ i i % nj
wanted 20 per cent: ne said thai b. ran al inc rs" 1h
SHe 1Siibont him sa,d tbat also assumed great
deal OrespOnsibtv, and that nothing cOud ne uoie
ONT me Watson then said that these people who pre-
scented tbe nils really aid nothing that they dd not ven
ture any hing. tha they should onS receive gno
third Cf the amount OF these bills instead OF udlii "" q"
sa II nc was authorized he could make an Arrangement
OF that kind with them said, CO on ahu ia@c In we a. 49,
raugemCrt, and give Connolly ~ per ctt ~ -
% per cent, ano give swceny 10 Yer cent ana ana, 1' @
viii make % per cont :" he said II 30 mat ana so
Hal his 10 per cent. where VII we pn i % 80 cent and
Hal and tell him Only give hhu pei Vi'. tllu @
the rest goe- yOu; whether or NOT receive" - '0
cent on Tie irs bills do NOT know, but am p"ITNG
received p per cent AT tle Mf.' Dasv ~ to r.,
after tEe signing OF the irst pllis COuh"HS oiy,.0
cevng 10 per cent, and asaed 70 per oen' 'N1 e
a new deal aud arrangement; theie wa IS' 'ohe
tronble about Hans perccutIgc AZ one tie Uai'u
slow m settling np matters" :" said did not know any
thing about %, bgt | woulo inquire ,i mit%a,,' % s"u
found they hsd not settled Win hdiS Iteh,' i @ n
s.'J" hsi"f GrV'vs rfore h @uich we're sicnod
had his percentage attended TO- ana the ci"S VI "''
Q.-Yon say that Hall came to and complained
thSi he dId not get his pcr cents Ale SAID nothing
about pe e. se DC s@d, f o3t iyiss 6 I was n i ing
back; wont n and he would rot sgn ~ ne "a N;'u, @
"lour ptolc vdy -low;' tod ma 'hat Noui" u"
renedicd. md he ssIcd Gdyeys ol ia the couIse oi
Q~iGd YOU ever have any other conversation with
any otter ncub The n relation 10 The pay ment
o iher pcrceutieci AAbou the iine o' tAe l.ss'lsc
a. , or - i a., III ided ~ divide the money as We first
su. c,.,tesl. namely, 10 psT ceut 20 each.
W. All iour ~ ms decided upon lie l0per cent
D-Vnrf you say Mr.. Syccuy. which Mr.. Swecny 90
yoH meant A.-Peicr h. sweeny as regards the paw
ment OF money 10 MIN tbrousA others nave hothnS 10
THE agreement between you was mat you four
ana Wai ou should Give per cent. and that the rest
should be oi I'VE iund. with watson rs u'6-
Yts SIR: Watson represented Connolly, and woodward
represented me. because wanted some one III the
Q~W tson represented Connollyl A.-Yes, sir
O. WHO represented cweenyi A.-Janos ". sweeuy
or uSh r59,sd as 5nS a AiIush Smith particu-
lafiy ny creations In all thc matters were WIN
Watson or Woodward, or bo ai 'h' I'M Ill, 'u"1
they both present III most Oh Tue eon'eisa'lohs
o."who we're the outside parties who represented
these bogus bllsi Aug Tsoh was % ITcmIcnt olt-
aide man working with Woodward; James d. iHger>ol;
Garvey was one also and kcyscr was another; pretty
much every WHO drew oui money under ina, Board
of Aud understood the arrangement, anu had 10 pay
fhe per ccniagc; think can safely say cyerybo did
Q.-Wtat I'D yon moan when you sud 'nat aino.. o..
ehartrr OF i,7Oi Al don, know tuat did say So
NJ T,,,o',ny orgar.zat.oul Al meant eyeIy body
WHO was ked upon leader or representative man
had something TO say about H.
0|Wlo we're tnCJ hat bad anything 10 -ay or do with
gctug thc contents Of That payer, every name thA
You know ofi Am the hsst place the senators ana
Member az tlc Assembly were spoken to- including
Rradcy aud myself ard Lawrsuce j. kieInan, who was
rising yonng man at to- Time i ;na every leading man
ODD understand yon 90 say maj NE charter IN
itself . the purpose Of raising money at
a anilt became utcDs>arl 10 pass THESE sud-. 1ueh
a.is To make ehcctnal for that purposei A-Ihdt is
O-Brsd these i've men whom you have named who
knew Of these csu,es which were Inserted INTO the tax
-, o1yjur his power the Controller the present
President of the Department. OF Pubic Notks- ana lho
y
ODD anybody except YOU i've know that these
81 raising money al the expense OF the County Treasury
or notl Al don't know what the opinions of others
Odd Won hear any body else say severe You over
fp consul alton with any body else Al was as 10 Le
massage of q tax levy in consultation MlihcNey
On of that committee thet could get 10, but ala not
scil them that tine Object OF tais tneudlncuti
O.-Was is object discussed at al between You ana
anybody else except thoSe hle menuohcdf Al thhh
not ...,.-..
sous who informed oi the oDtcls ei thest clauses
OF Tie tax cyyl Al don't think thcy did, althougA
not positive; II may nave neeh 80 De'a.a. 't.ntH
with great many persons Oh the shiJecti tlhk h"sh
Smith know it.
mentioned. have part OF tbe money wh' You deirha-
ed the city OH Al think not directly they c0uld not
know where came from a. being lE,r' ol tlat MOe5
O.-Dd they IN any way A.-Ihe money was us
trihuted m every way to everybody, and may have
reached them, hui not knowingly.
Q.-Nou say that you paid money 10 certain inenDeis
of The senate for e purpose 0f influencing their action
with regard 10 Tie CEarte.Oi lofOi A.-iAcu'e hc II
ihe qne.tun question rcpeated) say so yes ar.
Q-PeIsonalyl A.-Pcrsonaly > when speak Of no
Other person, knowing these facts, Of cosc do not rt
fer 10 Mr. Barber; Barber knew about jhis amend
ment, aud was taxed 10 about it frequently
IN ,on sac What members Of the senate Won
chrtcr "' y "f 1sz01 A-My relations 10 the members
were ~ many operations, that prefer having copy of
~ se1st' fi,nnaI before me before ! answer hat
ouesiiou The senate Manual for the year 1870
for, and handed t. the witness
Mr COle-Pease be ScrJ careful, or you are dealing
with the rcputa ions of prominent public men; THIS
question intended to hrne out such matters as YOU
yourself personally know about. ana sucI moneys you
Iourself personally paid and no CtnCr at tie present
Al na got 10 be tOld the fOrn Of ltilc narrative
from the lact that there material points bearing
from other could not be answered with single
yes or and their meaning and significance would not
be properly understood
THE SENATORS THAT TwFED BOUGHT.
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