The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-09-30


and was not certain 10 he correct In cvcryhng there
arc four suits brought By the hrn against the city for
rst suit was brought for S26s o. for printing and
stationery furnished tho Common Council; witness
thought all The bills OF Jones Co were fraudulent
tnere was an arrangement by which the nrm was 10
pay fifteen per cent 10 the Ring on all the work u did
Ior the CITY Jones tried 10 have tho amount OF MS
claim put in the tax levy, and witness was blamed Tor
H. whereas II was The job OF the Young Democracy
witness thought that mono oil Jones Co q bills wero
bona de the firm In The habit OF making presents
OF trunks, pictures ana al sorts oil goods 10 the heads
OF departments nnd 10 all CITY officials 10 whom thcy
furnished stationery
'EAlsiSG'' BILLS AND PRICES.
They recovered the value Of these by increasing the
price OF the stationery IN their bills and 'rasing tho
JARVIS had both told witness that they did this As to
!hc hIm OF Miain y. "oSers Co. Mr. tweed oeiieved
that Jones was the GO ana that the urn was idont
cal Win Jones Co.; william T. Rogers q Co. have
TWO suits against the city for stationery one for
oos ~ the other 80 yla "a these operations With
Jones Co. ana Rogers Co. went ON until tho passage
Young Democracy and all his relations with the Ring
ended all tho bills OF these hrms were tainted with
iraud and none Of tncm was paid less IMAM fifteen per
eenI, ano on many mucn more Was PAID.
M sne sa s o. ocn inc loT Sston,i banS
inc money naa oeen borrowed Nv ingersoli on
nus own Individual name hc then rccited tho history
W AnseIsoH auo o.nc's nave Inc oourt mousse piils
inserted ~ !o tns YAK ,evy OF ls!l no sad ingerso
PAID 70 nave an Item oil SOW o0o inserted IN
the Lax levy this $ll2,oo WIS Obtained by him from
tne icn.h N.louai DAM ny 'hc ueposising Vi piiis
against .ne Guy 10, n wof1 On tne Court House.
IN answer 20 otner questions nj. tweed SAID that
Ine CITY nao gooa R,cuna LOT acon ana that nc would
ASSIST ~ al nc cou,n ny Iuinslns evidence ~ the
sn.ts gtougnt oy tne people against inomas CONAN
aha ponneIi on accouh! OF fraudulent oils. IN the
statemont ma1e 70 .ne A.torhey ueneral mr.; Iweed
IN" Rosers the Wilson and many Other cases Hs
s.so nau "s ~. eo"y auu us 'Iienan pc'c'e ui"t
ne was to DO USED as witness aud feared HIM; he
tnous"' 'u"' was "n"' n'aoc 'nem 30 anxious 10
sct.'c;
Dur.ns INC eH,s'sm a :" Tue nine were lnsre nov
qu..o nuuueI " Poaeons upoh ing Puy rons VINO
were rcguarIy pala as u .noy were aolng service To
tne cy, IN onc o"pa'''y VI ano,ner VINO aiu not 10
any s H y. ~, ~. ,,, a. y. vo,y lille; yes
W. ~, ., s''.v y" yoa .uo".ice. any suon POI.
Soas' a. wo' ~ ny WI ,n p s nau "a, pr
;Hsv mon -, hs,v .ra nn, @ %' my OF
SHY namus upon - "oy W. pa'o ous OF ny own
P;' nv n" my p ME- ~ v oy paysos,S
paia DaouSn~, sao v ~ ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, soo
month LOT wear OF n,osS no sappos'ns 'nat came
ous " 'nc Dups.',. , ~ !, " S "o'H MI
@ M ,snnc.pr "t snm,,%,rc a. ohn ~ me-, g
.s,s. =" 'A"iSo' - ''''s - $3.50 '""' 1'uA
oIS TrS sv .hS c Ivn'y W pay 'na' pn-
-'' EDGAR x. Agar.
~ VINO S,sc Gun ySu 'ecomect "s having Dcen on
ho nrsssnt n.nmtv S.crc.srv ~ S,' pau
,rnt ho was On Inc roll b1t no lid nn.nnr eyce,
- s,rn,n he S,a,s ' wv " "'u no'"'"S oAocP'
20 W1r,t wns So m the rou to-9 r. b.,
unm.w ~ ~ y" 'As 'o W. a. ~ gov MS
"0n0y' r l., wh.. ..n.,.
c,sT Of som. Kind tGnxv t Nus n no on r a. AS
S'. " .r' IN .nna wy uoo.s Vi tne ora
n.sees Depnr'm.m s WI Sv" maj put tncso men on
~ tnnld n n inv
w. m NJ mar ,s,tcd for '"n NJ. d,a anysnlng
through the State: there are great mnnv othcrs
wcrc on that pay ROLL had brother OF Hugh Hast
ngs, who did nothing; his name was William think
cannot rccollect any Others Tor these questions aro
entirely unex peced and have NOT though at OF
II: Mr. King can givo you some vuunb bic information
about that or almost any OF the clerks n, tho
Department. .e+tl--
Mr.. Townsend called attention 10 the fact that no
had on many previous occasions cd that Mr. Tweed
should DO previously Informed vi the questions 10 DO
asked tnat hs might refresh his memory previous to
appearing before the comntecc aud complaincd that
u had not bcea done; that questions quite unex.
pccte. we're put to tho witness each session. Mr.
amiusson with references private payroll TO 90
over untll the neat meeting OF the committee when
he should ask Tor all tho names upon II as
we'll ss for tho names Of those on tho
regular payroll who performed no services for tho
com pensstion they received. Mr. Tweed remarked
that ne would be much better ablo 10 rccolIect the
events appertaining 10 the Ring frauds II ho might
talk with parties that no had then been ed
with. .srhe msn who want como aud talk TO mo- -
he said 'dare not como II comes In to talk 10
mo no tremblcs oil until lie gets out :
they think IL IL tho next thing to being In.
dicied where l am. /" The witness
then stipulated that before the noxt meeting
the committee should send him all tho books he
wanted from tho Street Department. sThere arc u
million OF Names said he, ITO be COMO over us ono
name may appear 1fIy times aud want not only the
books, but want one or TWO clerks with cannot
do all this work myself; the clerks may also help my
memory on these points; as regards my private pay
roll Will do all can" Al tho suggestion Of Mr..
Cole tho committee agreed to send com mun cat ION
clerical aid 10 Mr.. Tweed. 4. s,-.
REPEATING THE rrsrrvoxy
Mr. Cole resumed his EXAMINATION yo,ny ovar thu
oround he had already severnI t,nes rsvcrscs ~
clic he Testimony hat witness Al hes i'm ma
of emvloy,ny lobbvists Al Albany IL vas ssrsrav
he said that IN the lover Ii,uso mere
an orrnn,za,ion OF rcuu bcnns ma demncras r., i,c
the black morse cavalry whose votes hui 10 be maid
for the money being given 10 some ono man ifthcr
support had not be en- engaged for
when il camo to a vote I1ey would s,ep into The lob
hes ana walk around and wonid NO, vo,o n, sn
unless they were bought when acme ono wou,a q"
out md bring them In TO vote Witness conI,
not tell who composed that gang. MS The lca,,srs
changed every year although these facts were kno
SO generally and Tho bribery was Conducted so onenlv
thai state OF affair. continued 10 cxIs Tho RIM
money to procure senco whenever i, was
tho people could not be- their renr.
sentatiyes could as n general thinv ths w,in.ss Ia
Being asked now II was thai tho nIsss did mi enc"
the Jobs Mr. tweed rcplied that inc RIM had snn.i
d,zcu The press AT Albany: the Albany ErD1ino
was ow ned Dy George " Demars whu wus nm in iii
ana did not pc about UGH 30 he used IN M his
through man named 8 e. Hutchings When ! ars :,
went 10 Albany as Seuator,u Isis mini ,,,a 6gh,