, 1877-05-22

dozen reason: were sllcgcd hy an appellant
"A vote would be taken on item separately.
SSuppt'sc ninc were rejected and three sustained.
simple work i'efo!c It OF saving, "Thc appeal
IS sustained for these specific reasons, Which
lave been certified BY the vote Of tho body" lie
grave in!usticc had been done to .the Presby-
tcTT. Their decision Was reversed. For vhxt
rcasonhf The Synotl had assigned mono. Tho
only reasons that appeared on ths record wcra
1lnd brought together from every quarter. And
Il would appear that the Synod had indorsed
those seasons. Sumo Of them might bc very
unfair. Some q tho statemcnts might DO
wrong. No ONO had voted on those reaaons
scparate1y; and Tint Prcsbytery lay under tho
spect Of all those reasons. He did
New .Iersey would SO decide, acting on thsm
eeparately, or that tho Assembly would -
IN ORDER 10 CARRY OUT TIE PROVISIONS OF
TnH CONSTITUTION,
there was required Just such way Of taking
t'!e y, yste ss the ptesbytsry = Newark PROPOSED
should bS e. Adopted e},S He ras svars that IN
in the Assembly; that tl,e individual Judges
alleged such reasons IS occurred 10 each one,
aud these reasons need not be tho same; and
III the case. But ho submitted that that
was substantial injustice. II tho judgment
OF Synod was that a certain reason
vas VA , not good reason for, rcvcrsiug
Of Weighing Oh Thy one side, It weighed on Tho
other: and TIM. the second reason, instead Of
weighing on the ono aide, really balanced On tho
otier.-how could dozen Of these reasons
,Nam q tl,e balance the othcy waJt 4 brother
lad taid to him that It seemed to him that
fhough no one reason hy Itself might be sui-
c9uT1s nttnSENr 0f St1rh fr1ef hnt
ayail for that. Should that which weighed on tic
one s'dcAddcd 10 something which weighed on
the same sde make weight on the other silcf
tho sight. Of God, aud not one ia
the sight Of one man, and smother In the sight
s o. annther, to Justify Tue reversal OF tho. de-,
80 vote, The adoption Of this amendment
would MISC wholly remove the confusion that
always attended the privilege Of voting to suE
separately caeh man would know exaetly which
| way he should votc--"yeaH or "np,n lie sup
posed other sections Of tho church hsd hal e.
periencn With the confusion arising out Of such
votes. Certainly other sections had m interest
IN the amendment: for this large proportion of
decis!ons that had been reycrfcd did not happen
| 70 Now Jersey alone. In conclusion, he said
anc1n Ters any opset1s IT.; H. TIC y nns q tho
US this hinttcr lla&l been fully discussed Ia tho
prcsbytcry sendlng up the memorial. and ho
hs4 , assumed pa To- rePrf.cnt them !, T. tno matter
asked what would be tho effect Of 40 A1lrma-
tive action on the overture. Would It 60 down
to tho prcsbyteFtes at onccf
The Molcrator-fcs.
! Nh. AsKIBHxN
then took the platform, and prcscnted the 9th
CT side Of the case. II the overture went down
tothe PrcsbytcFies all the members would ex-
pet to 60 down to Their P5esbyteries aud vote
give It 1ndorsemcnt. This overture, no
thought, struck at the great protection OF mia
tster OF the Gospel, and was built upon principle
thsy wcrc to yo.e upon each reason, and L they
DID not beieye that reason, BY itseif. would Sus-
tain tho appeal, then the appeal would 70 By.
Taxing thc question practically, would ono Of
s ptp S oad THS9 fSs9 sny sa.;sn S2s
them altoGethcsa Ycs,-they would sustain
fifty: This was tho character Of cvtdcncc in
dealing, net With pure questions Of law, but In
been committed. and that q man waa found near
the place twenty minutes Afterwards, was that
sIillelent reason 70 eonrict1 No: Suppose
N S 1aaS e {hePs va. .aa' 1d
reason. 4 knlta was found near by supposed 10
belong 70 him.; woal! that convict. No,
no. no., q 'ho 4ss1f nsn .det,, nat it was found
kndiic. " Va, thu. s q ,tseif % suiseisntt eatt
No But they would hang the man, and the
community would bo heartily In sympathy with
LUIS result. lake lug pofttson OF khe fhinMtty.
4 Wa only necessary to utter . word agalnst
their talr na1ne aud tbs world would spread tho
report. But the reasons were not heard, md It
was only necessary that there be ono majority
ss te5 mum Il e az s.s asRoss be % ed wa
convicted by Jury Of twelve men. uuleas sll
could soto on the caso OF q minister, ho WINS
shorn Of hts position. To ray that the multi
ctcnt, would be To strike at the very principle
OF evidence. 1t was by gathering probabilities
that certainty Tas reached, 40 ono Of which
Probabilities Toqa hsgu 6ee1 g. sufficient to
Introduce revolution into the system Of
judicial proceedings. The couFts Of tho Church
were not merely courts Of law, but they bad
Jurisdiction Of facts, and fAct4 could not BE- re-
duccd to single reason. There might be ditY
frasons going TO prove that : certain thing was
true, any one OF which reasons would b utterly
tmpossihle to convict. lie did not believe that
Ing the character OF the minister or affecting
any OF these questions Of fact, that could ho
sustained, or sinEle reason. Therefore, he
injunously, and would deprive tho mtntstEy and
tho rhnrchcs Of the protection to which they wera
entitled, particularly whom tho courta vera
formcl as they were, and left very much to thels
popular feeling and their own Judgment,
TuR REV. NR LA1pLAW,
as member Of tho Committee On Church Pol
ity, from which this overture had CONG, said
that thrco members ot the COMMITTEES had
| FAVEA ~ VIZ AA4t41aht4F A0tAo VI kA0 4AGAtE&a =
were OF opinion TINT the overture wa 4 sword
which cut with two edges 1t did not simply
provide for shielding tho innocent. 1t pro-
vtdcd. at the same si1ne, for shielding tho
guilty In a manner which he need not take tho
time to explain. He was opposed to aendlng it
down to tho Prcsbytcrtcs. Tie thought harm
would grow out Of 1t, aud that the Assembly
hal here let well enough alone. Wsll enough
had worked prctty well, aud u Psesbytcrtes
and Synods would exercise due care It would
work very well In tho future.
| SUD0K BRALEI0H
thought the brother from Minnesota misappro-
hended the case. The superior judtca&ory wers not
sitting aa 1urofs TO determine the weight Of ev.
id0ncc, but they were sitting ~ a court Of re-
view Tor the purpose Of dctermlnEnR whether,
In tho mode ii procedure, the courts hsd com..
m!ttct error. They were sitting for tue purpose
Of reviewing tho lnosla OF procedure, not fot
determining the weight of tile evidence. Tho
latter past Ut tbs overture, it would be noted,
was the present tanth section, for what the
present overture was tnten1sd u be substituted.
lie was ut loss to know !n what way it inter-
fered with tho present constitution OF thu Dis
c!pinv OF tic Church It simply provided N