National Republican., 1877-01-20
GAMBLERS CONSPIRACY,
IContinued from First Psqe.l

| OF Police between the ordinary patrolmen and the
detectives2 A. 1t Is only the tacit understanding
IL one exists that the detectives not to be used
In thst class OF service The precinct sHicers, In
when raid is made the lieutenant Of the precinct
| in whose district these gambling houses are takes
his officers, goes 10 the place and makes the
Q. Did you say that the detectives had not been
| so used? A. Not TO any extent. ...-...
| q. Do the Board Of Police Commission ers know
that, Or DO hsy not know as TO how the respective
branches of the police are used? A. do not think
they have any official know. dge OF 1t. They must
know as TO the result OF the raids the of Me
| men who make them, &C.. a. these facts pub
| lished in the newspapers.
| Q. Do the papers generally tell who makes the
| raids? A. les, sir. They say: "Lieut. Skippon
| and so-and-so made such and such q raid . GER
tain night" The papers always give the detail OF
| those things.
2. That was the only knowledge they would have
ON the subject? A. think so.
2. have you any knowledge OF any money hav-
ing been paid by any OF the gamblers this city at
any time to any Of the police force? A. None
| whatever. -.
Q. Do you know OF any presents having been
made to any Of the members at any time? A.
| Never.
Q. Have any OF the police commi issIoners ever
complained that such was the fact? A. Mr.. Muir.
tagh, think. has said to that he had heard that
one or more OF the detectives were receiving
money.
Q. When was that? A. Within the last three,
four or five months, think.
Q. Prior to this Investigation of the Police
Board? A. Yes. sir. . '.
By Mr.. Williams: Q. Is it not the custom OF the
detectives, ON knowing Of any crime being SOM
mtted either to the criminal or give infor-
nation to the police that will effect that end? A.
Generally IL would be.
Q. 1t was not in the case of the gamblers? A.
No. sir. h...
By Mr.. Wilson: q. You say. in answer to the
chairman, that the board made no special orders for
raiding these gambling houses by the police by
the detectives? A. Yes, sir.
q. Is that the reason why you did not raid them?
A. No, sir.
Q. Because no special orders were made? A. No,
sir.
Q. Did the board ever make any special orders
thieves should be arrested by police or the
detectives? 4. think they have on on one or two
public occasions directed special efforts to be made
and they authorized me TO send for detectives In
other cities 10 be present at inaugurations, &c.
Q. am speaking now of general current Susi-
ness? A. Speaking generally. no, sir.
2. But still they did arrest thieves whenever they
could find them without those special orders? A.
YES, sir.
except keeping gambling houses and bawdy-
houses! A. Yes, sir.
Q. You did not neea any special orders for these
other species of crime, and you did need any
orders for these gambling or bswdy-house.? A.
No, sir.
Q. You say you detailed the lieutcn ant OF police,
or gave him instructions. in regard to these gam
biinghouses, but you used the detectives to ferret
ou' crime, because they go in citizens clothes and
they would not be readily recognized. That is the
fact, Is it? A. Yes, sir.
Q. How did you expect TO ferret out the gan
bling-houses by sending the lieutenant in his uni
form and his paraphernalis to look up these estab
lishments? A. In the complaints these houses
were pamed and their locations were given, Taey
did not need any looking up.
2. The very uniform that they had on would be
notice 10 these people to close up these establish
ments? A. portion of the officers always 60 in
uniform for their own protection. l stated that
it was not necessary for them to look the places up
because II was reported where they were.
Q. Is there anything unusual in communications
being sent TO individual members OF the detective
force from other places when they want persons
looked up? A. 1t was matter OF daily occurrence
from one detective to another.
y. Would there be anything unusual In bis send
ing this letter to Mr.. Claryoe? A. Nothing what
ever,1 should think. do not wish to be under
stood as intimatinS that there would be.
A LIVELY FIGHT.
Q. Do you know that at the time you say shepherd
carried that note to that Shf pherd the man
aging editor OF THE RrrUBLICAN? 4. / do not
know it. No, sir. understand he at one
time,
Q. Do you know that at that time he AMI Dana
were having pretty severe controversy A. know
that THE REPUBLICAN, and the SHa were having
very livery tilt at one time, five years ago
about as lively as ever saw between two papers.
Q. Do you recollect Of cut of Dana appearing IN
THE REPUBLICAN at that time? A. remember a |
pictorial edition of THE REPUBLICAN. |
by Mr.. Wilson: Q. When did you first hear of the |
kilograms that were produced in evidence sent by
Mr.. Clarvoe? A. think when they were read here |
by Mr.. McElfresh in his testimony.
You had no information at all before that time?
A. No. sir. 1t took quite by surprise that there
were no such telesrams in existence. These tele-
grams were never recorded In the regular telegraph
book in the office.
By MIR. Wilson: Q. Mr.. McElfresh had them? A. |
1t seems he had them. How where he got them
have no knowledge.
The committee then adjourned until 10 O'Clock |
this OF ming,