The New York herald., 1877-12-18
DR. LAMBERT'S TRIAL.
The CrOsS-ExaminatiOn by Assistant
District Attorney Rollins.
"LAMBERTINE CASH.
Curious Financial Transactions and False
Entries.

The trial Of DR.. Thomas 8. Lambert. president OF
the American Popular Life Insurance Company, for
perjury continued yesterday before Judge Brady
In the Court Of Oyer and Termner. The morning and
great part OF the afternoon session taken up
with the OF the accused by Assist
ant District Attorney Rollins. HIS questions wore
very incsive and well directed. The case was con-
tinued In the evening Judge Brady being desrous Of
concluding IT as soon as possible.
DR.. Lambert was In court q little before the hour
for opening, attended by his and his counsel ex-
Recorder Smith. On tho part Of the people District
Attorney Phelps aud his assistant, Mr. Rollins who
conducted the examination, were present A few mo-
mcns were spent in 1xng the amount Of bail for Mr..
Broadwell, the president Of tho Clarmont Savings
Bank, after which the trial OF Dr. Lambert was pro-
ceeded with, beginning with hts cross-exam alton by
Mr.. Rollins on his testimony Of the previous day.
Q. You exhibited nun Der Of figures about Penn
sylvania and other companies. DID they throw any
light whatever on whether these checks for stock
were cash, or the amount OF cash you had on hand
A. No.
Q. Are your checks among these s4s,oO for stock
certificates worth anything TO dayf A. Not to-day.
Here Mr.. Smith interrupted, ana Mr. Rollins indig-
nanty protested and said he never interrupted
the examination. and he equally fair and hon.
orabie treatment The witness was asked by Mr..
Rollins to explain the matter of the stock checks
gwen by him TO the American Popular for prov isona
certificates They consisted OF $l25oo, S2000 $780,
81, 200, 5000 and Others forming an aggregate of
$2S. 800 The answers given by Dr.. Lambert
vague.
Q. Namo q man whose check was paid. A. DR..
Lambert
. For how muchf A. For 81, 200.
Mr.. Rollins excitedly said, IL do not mean that
shuggcrmuggering' arrangement, but paid by actual
cash." Mr. Smith protested against such terms.
t.Will you keep still ?" said Mr. Rollins. "No, l
wont' answered Mr.. Smith. "Your- Honor" said
the Assistant District Attorney, 81 will not be in
terrupted in this manner" Judge Brady instructed
Mr. Smith not to interrupt the proceedings, and said
that the questions should be put In a proper manner
Q Tell what the payments In cash that
went out OF your pocket that afterward re-
turned to it again. A. did not think there any
for which the equivalent do not 60 back into my
pocket again.
your A. Yes, sir.
Q. Why did you carry them for three months, six
months, or year, without settling? A. Because the
use to which they were intended 10 be applied had
not arrived, suppose.
Q. ! have called them bogus checks Have you any
idea what bogus check Is? A. man gives you
his check when he Is able to pay the face Of It.
@ Do you think any check more bogus than that
drawn by party upon q bank In which he has no
assets al ALL and as 10 which there IS an agreement
between himself and the party In whose favor II shall
oe Drawn that he shall called upon pay it,
and that II shall be returned TO HIM alterward-is
there anything more bogus than thal2 A. Yes, sir.
MIR. Rollins here produced several OF the checks in
question and asked the witness II they were good.
He replied, 81 look the face ot the checks and In
The lace OF the man who has got 10 pay them" He
asse,s because the parties who signed them were
Tor their value.
MS sroRxHousE or KNOWLEDGE
@ Do you know In your heart that the sac, 900 OF
April last made AS "cash" OF the American Popular
was honest eutrys A. l don't know anything in
my heart; have Nil my knowledge in my head.
O You honestly believe that that honest
transacon-that sac 0C0 was paid to take up Sac 900
worth OF conditional certinca.ess A. have no
honest belief On tnat point.
Q. Well, have you any dishonest belief A. No,
sir; l never had a dishonest belief in my life.
O. You believed that all those good for
Q. You know Mr. CruikshanK9 Was he not poor
scnooimaeterY A.. No; ne was q first class school
master. !LaughteE)
Q. Well ne gave you a check for So oOO and one for
$1,000 when ne did not have anything near that
amount on hand, did he notY A. 1 don't suppose he
had that amount at the time In bank.
O. Why dd you take the check bank In which
he did not have US much funds as represenledf A.
considered il cash and II good can say that In
my opinion these checks were perfectly good, and
within twentyiour hours there could have been raised
on them what you call cush.
Mr. Roillns-On what | call cash. That Is a good
distinction, aLd want you TO keep 1t In mind.
q. How could the money have been raised 7 A. He
had property; i aon't suppose he gong sell his
house every day to buy bushel OF potatoes.
Y. DO you believe that he would sell his house to
pay one OF his checks2 A. No, sir; l don't suppose
he III tended 70 sell his house.
q. You 90, $1,000 from the company did your A.
Yes, sir, la what you Gail cash.
q You were In great hurry for this you
not-you teeRraphed Tor ~ A. Yes, sir.
o. We'll, tnat about all the money there was
IeItS A. don't know.
Q Dldut you bag all there was' A. (Emphatically)
guess not; should say aid not bag It at all
Tn nj 4 thtQd a0-
cheney to get up subscrp ption stock and get
checks for II 10 be returned siterward? A. My
O. He told you, that gentleman sitting there, Mr.
George W. BLISS (ponting 10 that gentleman, who
was sitting ncar) tnat that was tho way H. did
s.BuYixG DEpUcrIoxso
Alter the recess witness was further examined to
the checks which had been counted La regard
TO the irow loans he sad the security them was
the furniture and fixtures Of tho company's Offices
and other items The furniture was sold . him at
cost price. Another item deduction men ioned
In the INSURANCE report
O. Did you ever buy any doductionsY A. Yesi
O. don't understand wpat you mean by buying
DEDUCTION. II you go to market 10 buy turkey cost
Ing So aud the marketman takes OF twonty 1--we cents,
that twenty-five cents is the deduction. Now how
could you buy hat2 A. He might som ethng or
from the turkey too and that would bo the deduc-
O. We're You not surprised that Mr. Trow wanted to
buy these tningsY A. 40 sir.
q. Did you thInk he meant to pay for them In any
kind oi cashs A. ! don't know that he did in your
kind OF cash.
q. Now, were not these purchases made to deceive
the Insurance superintendent A. No, Sir; 1 don't
think hc could De deceived.
o. Now, here $l4, ,S72 80 for furniture returned
as among the assets aud $l1, 900 from Mr.. rrow or
the furniture, which also counted assels now
that showed you either had S25 600 OF furniture or
you tried 70 deceive h,nf A. understand there was
a reduction in Me- Trow's bll by what means 4 don't
know.
Mr. Rollins continued inquiries OF the same nature
about stock OF the United States Publishing Com
paDy, winch was also carried as cash assets He
characel zed such Items "Lambertne cash, which
drew roar OF laughter IRON every In the Mr.
Smith objected, aud Juuse Brady, shaking with
laughter, asked II the term to be the
trial as IN contradistinctor TO money. Mr.. Rollins
said that was his meaning, anu tue proceedings
Lnucd Mr. Rollins, by several well directed quos-
tons, got iron the witness the statement had
very little to do with tho making OF last year q
reports. Then no drew from his PIE Of papers tho
original memoranda In penciI from when di1eren {
parts OF the report had been made up. Dr. Lambert
acknowledged that the handwriting and figures on
them were hia
In 10 era1.ana NJ Smith heaan