The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-04-07
RAPID TRANSIT DEFEATED.
Mr. Ecclesine's Bill "Railroaded"
in the Assembly.
NEW YORK'S ENEMIES SHOWN
Strahan, Hayes, Gilbert, Cozans and
Rockwell Say "NO."
w H A Il DID / i.
Horse Car Railroad Fares as
Legislative Motors.
HIGHWAY ROBBERY"
Spacious Arguments of Rural Men,
bers-What Is "Fee?"
III -
w H A Il DID I II.
Horse Car Railroad Fares as
Legislative Motors.
HIGHWAY ROBBERY"
Spacious Arguments of Rural Mem
bers-What Is Zee 2"
lex TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.

lex TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.
ALBANY, April 8, 1871
Mr. Robert II. Strahan, member OF Assembly from
tho Thirteenth district OF New York city. took up the
HERALD to-day the course OF tho debate on the adj
verso report OF The Rapid Transit bill from the Railroad
Committee, and read the paragraph from your Albany
correspondent stating that in day or two he
should give the histories OF all the men
on that committee who agreed to slaughter
rapid transit. He thcn challenged the HERALD corrc-
spondcnt to give the histories OF the s:xty-sx men
who voted in favor OF the adverse report, meaning
thereby that he would find it rather a wcighty
task presume the columns OF tho
HERALD arc too valuable for this work, but
Mr. Straban might be reminded that the mere
numerical prcponderancc, sixty-sx 10 twenty eight Is
not index that rapid transit Is unpopular Tho gen.
tlcman may mean well enough, and he has his argu-
mcus support the position that there should be no
rapid where the OF property the line
OF an elevated road denied damages but argues
for ring Clique because the universal voice calls
for rapid transit. and Mr. Strahan is simply standing
in his own light when with his great ability he OPP
poses it.
COMPANY MONEY
II was defeated to-day. IL has been set back
for years Tho money was unlimbered and set going
and that beat It, 1t Is perfectly absurd TO suppose that
John Smith from the Tar west of the State voted
against the bill in the public interest He voted
against IL because his paw creased by
some OF tine internal lobbyists who have In
tested the Legislature for the last three months,
tho street railroad companies OF New York are
at the bottom Of the corruption. When the Attorney
General gets through with tho Tweed business it is
be hoped will address himself to this Of
rupng the Legislature and where he that street
railroad company OF New York has used money with
the nnrposc Of debating rapd transit hc will take
measures to vacate the charter OF such company.
Mr. EccLEsiSE's SPEECH.
Mr.. Ecclcsne moved to disagree with the report Of
the committee and commit the Rapid Transit bill TO
the Committee of the Whole. Mr.. Ecclesinc said:-I
do not feel as strong as hoped TO do to meet
serious question OF this kind, but f
! roso from dying bed, and the breath
that l drew was the last feeble breath that
came responsive the last effort OF lie should deem
II well expended in using 1t advocating the motion that
/ have made IN reference to this bill 1t Is bill
framed in the OF rapid transit in the city OF
New York. II Is bill, us believe the gentlemen
who prepared the bill believed that Will meet crying
want OF the citizens OF that great city, aud that Will
90 to solve problem that Is important not only TO
tho citlzoDs OF that city but the State generally. had
hoped from the reception that the bill first met with
In tho committee, had hoped from the sound arRu-
mems OF the learned counsel that appeared before the
COMMITTEES had hoped more especially from the fmsy
character OF the arguments and the evident want OF
good iaih OF tho opponents Of the bill TO have received
very different report IRON committee CONSTITUTED
the Committee on RailruadS IS, having on IL only
one member IRON the city OF New York. | not
prepared Tor this adverse report from gentlemen whose
Interests certainly cannot be Affected one way or the
other by this bill. Ii am not able to convince this
House IN Committee OF the Whole that the bill is
honest one, a tar one and proper one, then am
wiling TO meet with the defeat that bill OF that
acter should entail But do not want II smothered
here, like msbcgotten babe end put out Of
the way want IL brought that members of'this
House can be put record whether they
favor OF rapid transit II the bill is OF such charac-
ter that when it is carefully examined IN Committee OF
haa fhantx nA
It, gentlemen will have an opportunity OF speaking
and voting against IT,
Certainly question OF this kind involving such i'm
portant interests as It does seems TO me- should not
be smothered under adverse report, and that tho
friends OF the bill should have an opportunity OF being
heard In Committee OF the Whole. l trust the motion
will prevail.
NIX. o'nARK SUPPORTS THE MEASURE
Mr.. O'HARE-l rise to support the motion made by
tho gentleman IRON New York, Mr. EccicsDc The
question OF rapid transit Is which has long
gagged the attention OF this Legislature tho press and
the people OF the city of New York at large The
Rapid Transit law OF 1875 the initiative OF that
grand step OF progress which was to securc,to the
people Of the city OF New York the blessings of quick
transit But " was not sufficient, and this bill was in
roduccd and supported b. tho friends oil rapid transit
with the view OF perfccting that very system Does
IL accomplish II, does IL notg is not question To DO
now considered, rs we cannot 80 into the merits
OF the bill a motion OF this kind but ask
this House to give the members from New York, to
give the friends Of this bill opportunity 10 show its
merits IN Committee OF the Whole, opportunity to
show that II Will accomplish what the people OF the
city OF New York have long, ardcntly but, alas
SO vainly. hoped ior-the accomplishments OF rapid
transit hopo the motion of tho gentleman from
New York, Mr.. Ecclesinc, will prevail
MIR. MIrcHELL's REMARKS.
Mr. MITCHELL hope thesmoton mado by the gen.
tlcman IRON the Nineteenth Will prevail, for the rea-
son that, as member from tho city OF New York my.
sell. and being desous OF giving to the people OF that
drawn so as to meet the requirements. SO
as not 10 do an injury to the property
holders along the limo OF the route
shall cheeriully give 1t my support, and want
the bill printed aud upon our hlos Without CON-
mlttng myself pro or con. see no improprety Ia Tho
motion by The gentleman IRON New YORK, ana say,
by adopting his motion that disrcspect will be paid
TO the Chairman or to tho other members
OF the Railroad Committee. ! simply. "a
member from Now York wish this bill printed.
want to read It's PROVISIONS and 10 understand them
IN order that may cast my vote integcntly upon Tho
subject And hope the members from the rural dis-
trcs viii see the propricty OF acccdng to tue request
OF the gentleman from the Nineteenth and the
House from the city Of New YORK.
and allow this bill to go TO the Committee of tho
considered by the distinguished chairman and other
members Of the Railroad Committee, but yet
II must DO an admitted fact that the other
members upon the floor Of this house are ignorant
OF the provisions OF that BILL and, IN order That they
may act ntelllgenty, hope that tho report Will be
dlsap reed TO and that the bill viii be referred to the
COMMITTEE OF the Whole without committing myself
either 10 favor Of against the Dill, Tor Que want TO
understand It's provisions 10 order that may vote In
diligently.
Mr. STRAHAS-I consider the reason gwen by my
colleague from the Ffth tMr Mtcbe) why the rerort
of The committee should be disagreed 10 and tho bill
referred the Committee OF the Whole as very re-
markabc one. Tho reason that he gives Is that tho
members on this floor who not members OF the rail-
road CON ignorant OF the provisions OF This Oil;
snerefore wo ought 10 commit II 10 the Committee OF
Tho Whole therefore ought TO print thus bill and
then take up day two OF time ia discussing u, be-
cause nc do know what - n " because We DO not
understand II. sir, IL rs n singular position ior any
centemau to take; is peculiarly singular Tor any
gentleman to take that position Win regard 70 rap'u
transit bill
VI II.
Now, sir, upon this bill propose 70 stand BY the 70.
-, ~ INC committcc have never read tho bill, but
hayo general IDEA OF It's conlscalng principles and
I will stand by the report OF the committee VINO
80. rarcfuliv and deliberately considered lts pro-
.ss,oos will stand by tho report OF those
mon whom / know 70 he unprejudiced ana who