The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-02-01


that would be counted for Hayes by that Returning
Board; he knew Its complexion; no had been NC.
guain,ed with Wells twen'y-esht years he SAID aud
with Anderson nearly as long; To get them TO 90
what was right assentcd To seeing these parties at
his instance and to sndeavor 10 II tho negotiation
could bc made.
Q. In other words the object was TO raise money!
A. Most undoubtedly; not for myself, but Tor this
q. Aud the money was 10 DO gwen to Maddox2 A.
No, not to be gwen to HIM stakeholder would have
been sent down.
q. Who was to be stakehold A. That was to be
determined by those who would supply the sinews Of
q. Whom did you see in New York;
INTERVIEW WITH JOHN NogRssEY.
A. endeav0red FIRST 10 see Mr. Hewitt; he out
evening that no had returned aud did MIN; pre-
vously saw Mr.. John Morrissey. with whom had
some slight acquaintance; stated these facts 10 him.
ne SAID that while he bad no particular computations
IN paying man to do what was right, he did not feel
that he was in that necessity you remember that
this was on Sunday and II was not In barroom; he
said that he would buy these follows readily he
would buy pigs, or words 10 that effect. which CO.
iucldc with him In the interests OF 4O 900 OF peo
pie; but he said that We all knew Tilden was elected
and that he had Just received the public had lust
received, Information from Oregon which made it I'M
necessary TO resort 10 any such measure; that was
about the purport OF my conversation with Mr. Nor
risscy.
O. Did you receive any money from hims A. Not
any.
INTERVIEW WITH MR. HEWITT
q Did you Mr.. HEWITT a. In the evening
saw Mr. Hewitt and went over the whole story to HIM,
to which he listened very patiently aud kindly; told
him that while | had been an attorney al-law for u
great many years and Tor ten or twelve years In
Washington, had never used dollar corr upty and
never expected but that IN this instance fet tho
approval OF my upheld by duty in present
ing the thing 10 hun, and hc SAID that our posi-
tons reversed he would have done precisely the
of s s snas h ns s 'Aa@ 20 S
on the part OF the Returning Board IN
Louisiana but that mine appeared the most plausible
ana auhentic aud that under no circumstances would
they entertain any such propositions that we bought
them now We would have To buy them ever hereafter
that the country was going into civil war we might
we'll let aud be done with IT, but that he mad
no apprehension of any such result and that the
country knew that Governor rildcn was elected; that
was about the purport Of our Conversations SAID that
II bad S55O,OOO would lay down tho 100000, which
was the minimum pile these gentlemen wanted,
aud DO contented to live tho remainder OF my days
the 500 900 Or TO live IN 'sackcoth and ashes" II
necessary
O. Was ANYTHING So i'd between you and Maddox as to
how much OF the money he should haveY A. There
was nothing said to how much he should have that
was his affair; he said that II could succeed max
ing the negotiations he would See that ! should be
very handsomely compensated; that should have u
certain percentage; | said that | would take tho
money tor would regard It as "spoillng the Egyp-
tians, and would distribute It among the widows aud
orphans OF the South.
wITyEss' Personal HISTORY.
Tho witness then developed into u personal narra-
tive in which he related his connection with The de-
livery OF the state archives OF the Southern Conledc-
racy to tho government for which,he got lee
$35 OO0 and gave his personal history stating that lie
had been United States consul Tor twelve or fourteen
years and minister plenpotentary OF the Confederate
haG blow Tor tho Independence OF Cuba
twcntysx or twcntyseven years ago. and that he had
held an appointment under Walker IN Nicaragua; u
brigadier generals commission under kossuth, TO
game an American legion; major generals commas
sion under Santa Anna, but had not got beyond
New Orleans, ana that he had been Colonel In the
Confederate SERVICE chief OF staff to General Breckn
ridge in one campaign and volunteer AID In another
In conclusion he submitted several kilograms, let.
ters &C.. in relation to the matter between HIM and
Maddox. which viii be found IN Maddox's testimony.
TESTIMONY OF MADDOX.
Joseph II. Maddox was then examined MS follows by
Mr.. Field
q. State your residence anu occupation. A. re-
side in Maryland; an special agent IN tbs revenue
q. Have you in your possession any letters OF J..
N ads0n Wesy
wtness-l would like TO make a statement to the
committee before answer that question. Colonel
John |. Pickett informed mo two or three days ago
shat he expected DC called before this committee
testify relation to certain interviews between him
and Others and that II he was he thought he would
have ~ disclose my namc in relation 10 those inter-
vows. To my surprise las. night was subpnnaed TO
appear before this committee, anu inasmuch as my
connection with those interviews and my relation to
them involves a breach OF confidence, ask the IN
diligence OF the committee until TO- morrow consider
what course should pursue IN the matter
Mr. Lawrence-A breach Of confidence on whose
partY
Witness-On mine.
Mr.. Lawrcnce-Who has broken conadenceY
Witness--This Is just nat do not want TO do In.
aependent oi that am quite unwcll tins morning aud
have fever on mo now
The committee after consultation informed the wit
by Mr. Field--Do you know Mr.. VOLS A. do.
z. How long have you been acquainted with him ?
A. About twenty nine years.
Y. Do you know Mr. Anderson, the other member oil
the Returning Board II A. l do.
q. DO you know Messrs Konner aud Cassanae ?
O. How long have you known Andcrsong A. About
twenty 1.-Two or thirty Years.
O. 10 you know Mr. weils's handwritingY A. l do.
e. Look ut this letter (handing to witness the letter
produced by Pcketu and tell me whether II Is his
hanewriting. A. Yes; saw him write Il.
T. Aud handed 1t TO you thercY A. Yes.
DECLINES TO ANSWER
O. At the time he handed You the letter what did no
say 10 your A. That Is one OF the questions which
do not desire 10 answer present. have no dspos
ton to delay the committee minute, out only want
To satisfy myself as matter Of duty TO myself; there
might DO some question which II would probably not
be proper Tor prcscut to tho committee which
might present 10 my lawyer
Witness was directed TO answer the quest ion.
THO witness Very little TOOK place when that letter
handed to me; the CONVERSATIONS were all prior 10
the writing OF this letter
U. With whom were the conversational A. Be-
tween MT Wells and myself
z. Was Anderson present ut any OF them? A. No,
q. Did you have any conversation with himY A. |
have had various con versaons with him respect to
the Returning Board and the action OF the Returning
Board
O. What was It that Wells said you at the time no
delivered this letter to your A. | think about the
he said that lie trusted this matter aud
that he wanted mo 10 protect him; that he placed n
great deal OF conidenco In me.
u TO protect nun from wnaty "a. lie did not wish
the Conversations which We had prior TO It be
public.
q. What were tho conversations which he wanted
you to protect him IN 4. Tnat cannot answer
z. You mean 10 say that you decline " answer
A. decline To answer.
q How many previous conversations have you had
win himp A. A great many.
q. During what timcy A. From before the com
mencement OF the sessions oi the Board up to the
lett New Orleans think that letter is dated the 10th
November, that rs, the day lett New Orleans
to Wash returned to New Orleans the 29tn
aud IRON the time that ne arrived from Rapidcs
Parish up to the time lett New Orleans | had con-
vcrsation with him every day.
q. Were YOU 10 New Orleans at the time OF tho cleo
tiOny A. No. sir.
U. How soon ter the election did you 90 there? A.
think arrived there between the 10Th aud 18th Of
November.
q. How after sou arrived In New Orleans did
you have interview with Wclls2 A. When
| arrived In New Orleans he at his home
Rapdes Parish; he came to New Orleans in u
day after arrived; saw him imme siiatelv md
had interviews with hun probably on the average
oil two day while In tho city.
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