The New York herald., 1877-09-16

city and of New York which claims debts
ssrsemsn. orJ ames B-n duly sealed and Witnessed by
sss Ss the .ad s:s@sn :" made 70 mo
originally by said BIien in order tina, Mr. rwesds name
party 10 whom sneh assignment was made
Tweed his heirs executors aud assigns
70 S s: :u 81 ss .s %. w.
my true and lawful attorney. rrevocsblc in name,
for attach levy. receive all such
s o O % Of or 81 S
dues debts and demands above asst gned g him living
suthority perform all every thing
an" purposes. might or eoSia DO il psr.ou.s present.
With full Of snbssltaon and reyecatlon hereby rati
s,ta,s awuy cause to Ds done BY virtue
Hp 6E%E M zeal
Sealed and delivered the presence oil John u. Town
send, No. 353 West Thirty-iourth street.
IL IT A FoRGEKrY
Mr.. Townscnd-Mr. Chairman. have noticed in tho
papers that Mr. O'Brien has denied that he
this assignment and IL is very possible that such
be the case. IL may bc II Is forgery entirely am
certain we don't want 10 do any person an injury.
propose, before handing this 10 you that the DO
Autographed by the Grephic or some other paper In
orcr to test the gsnunencss OF Mr. 0BrIens sigma
ture 10 SEQ II II is iorccry
Mr.. Tweed--I have various papers In my possession
signed by Mr.. OBren which verify tho fact that is
his signature; am prepared 10 prove II Nv number
of witnesses he has con vcrsed with upon this subject
and admitted II Ia TACT by convarsation.
Alderman Cowing--Y0u have seen MIN write? A.
Yes, sir, number OF times, and have seen his name
on paper.
Q. You bclieve II 10 be his signature from your
knowledge OF his writng3 a. Yes. sir, aud II has
never been questioned TO my knowledge until last
week
Mr.. Cole--It seems to me, Mr.. Chairman, we may
put this rest right aud here. suppose
there must he those within the sound OF
arc familiar with tho handwriting oi O'Brien ana
have scou him WRITE II you will indicate some deputy
some one who knows his handwriting.
The Cha,r-Mr. Tweecd rays he has seen his writing
very often.
Mr.. rwecd-I have got some very expensive sigma.
lures Of his ALSO
A. II handed TO mo by Mr.. Dewey the same day Il
was dated or the day after; will relate tho history OF
Mr. Cole-Yes, SIR.
Mr.. rwccd-That was placed among my papers filed
when Mr.. OBrien was elected SENATOR bill was in-
troduccd in the Asscmbly--a bill passed by the
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES this matter to committee
about the time that committee wns to meet which was
fixed BY statute when 1t SHOULD meet, handed 1t to
Mr. Dewey and told him to employ counsel to collect
1t, and suggested the name OF RUFUS Andrews
ME Townsend-Mr. Tweed went all ovcr that the
Mr.. Twecd--l never it after that until the time
was trying TO make my arrangements with the At
tOrncy General and this was one oil the papers had
and 1t given 10 Mr.. Townsend, and retained
my possession until tho present time.
O'BRIEN GOT TIM MONEY.
Mr. Coe-You say tho consideration money for this
assignment was paid 10 James O'Pricn-partly IN
money? 4. The party who made the dca-hat thus
letter was from read 10 you-pald It to MN. +. W
Bixby, In Mr. Bixby's office IN Warren street, tho
presence OF Mr.. King, Mr. Monheimcr and a young
mau who is brother-ln-law Of Mr.. Bixby, think
z. Now, you paid the consideration money TO some.
body didn't you? A. did; $50 900 IN cash by check
$l2S 900 with accrued interest In bonds ami mort.
cages on property lying directly opposite Fernando
woods house ON the Bloomingdalc road
@ 10 whose order was The check drawn A. Tho
check drawn to the order Of blank, amt my stub
book has been destroyed unfortunately.
q To whom were the mortgages upon real estate
tho dates OF the mortgages bore date the
this assignment which the Registers ONCE will
show-$l2s, 600 worth OF mortgages
q. You delivered those mortgages in blank to
whoms 4. 10 W. f. King, IN the presence OF Mr..
Foster Dewey.
Q. Do you know how tho blanks in those mortgages
were filled subsequently. A. All know about IT Is
from the party VINO transacted the business
Nr. Tweed proceeded 10 repeat what he had sald
about Tho delivery OF the money in Mr. Bixbys Office
EX-sMERIFF's SIGNATURE
Q. Now, Mr.. Tweed look at this paper (paper
shownL Are you familiar with the handwriting OF
James O'BricnY A. am
q. nd you evcr see him writo his namog A. Yes,
q. Is that his signature? A. have doubt of IT,,
ana never nave had know 1t has never been ques-
Mr.. Coe-Will the chairman call upon some gentle
man who Is familiar with the handwriting OF Mr..
O'Br,ens
MT Twoed-.I woulu suggest Joel O. Stevens, who
WAS deputy under him when sncrlT, and who. OF
course, knows his signature
Mr. Patrlck H. Met uire, assistant clerk OF tho Board
OF Aldermen, was ca.led ana sworn.
Mr.. Coe--Mr Mcclure, ars yuu familiar with tho
handwriting Of James OBric shcr'n ofthe county Of
New York? A. Yes. SIR
@ Have you seen him write? A Yes, sir, thirty OF
forty times. 'f''
o. Seen him write his namcy A. Yes, SIR.
Q. Look at mat signature and toll whether or no,
that is his signature. docking at assgnment) Tu
the best OF my knowledge II Is HIS signature.
Mr.. Twecd-I believe Mr.. Joel stevens was deputy
under ren, and understand he is connected with
.hs building IN some way. have not spoken s t" Mr.:
can have no coliusion with him. Mr. ,Edestein, one
OF my associated counsel, could tell lls handwriting,
think.
Mr. Joel Stevens, VINO acting Under Sheriff un.
der Oirien, was brought into court and, beng sworn
testified undcr the exxminat Of Mr. Colc:-
Ar n
writing Of james 'Bren, who was formerly sheriff o
this county? A. | am, SIR.
q. Have you seen him wrtt0 Oltcng A. have.
Y. You were his deputy, w.rcnt your A. | wac
Undcr sheriff
which is marked "cxhibit AZ ana state whether oi
not that is the signature OF James O'Bren! A. ook.
ins At paper shown) That is his signature
Witness retired and the examination OF Nr. Tweed
rcsuncd:-
q with regard TO what is known general supple,
was 1t part OF the duly OF the Supervisors to furnish
county supplesf A. II was part Of their duty to fur
nish every required IN tac usc OF the county oil
GERS; the items OF supplies were furnished by +
Jones Il Co., Kcnnard Hays Seymour l. Co. and
Barnard; Keyser furnished stoves, Ingersoll-ater.
ward Ingersoil. Watson Co--iurnnurc
now THE CHARTER WAS PASSED
q. Well, Mr.. Tweed, do you Know anything about
the passage OF tho charter OF 1870 through Lcgis
laiureY A. Yes, sir.
O. Well, would like you 10 state the origin OF ha,
charter 50 TAR AS you know-how 1t Was passed, oy
by Hail, Swccny, Cornelius Carson aud Alexander
Frc,r; had Little 10 do with II; Mr. AchmAn lad
little to do WIN u ana nearly every leader IN the
Tanmany 0rganizaton.
q. Was that charter passed through tho Legislature
fairly, or was money usedy A. Noncy was used.
Q DO you mean 10 say that members vi tho Legisa.
ture bribed 10 vote Tor It? A. Say they
were paid to vote TOR H. In the Assembly thcy we're
paid 10 ior it. In the upper house tney werc
paid to control the republican caucus 50 as TO make
sure OF having the vote.
q Do you know ol any member of Assembly being
paid Tor vote on that Dill? A. don't think do IN
the Assembly
Q Do you know personally OF any member of the
Senate being pad for his vote OIL that chartcrf A.
Ido .s'. 80.
THE oLD BOARD or SUPERVISORS.
q Was II by thus charter that the Board OF Super.
visors ceased TO exist? A.. No. SIR; that Was special
law, II my memory serves ms right; but am unable
to obtain books 10 bring back my rccolicctions so
that am At the mercy OF my NON cry which as u
matter OF course whilc pretty nearly correct cannot
bo exact. At tue last meeting Of the committee I
thought tho Board Of Supervisors had appo ntcd as
Surrogate in place OF Mr.. West, Gideon j. Tucker.
| have since had communication which brings
10 my mind the iact that no person was
appointed but that the presiding Justice o! the Court