New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1877-02-06
cRosy-Ex.luMIrIoy or TELLS.
SHARP PASSAGES or WORDS BETWEEN HIM AND MIR.
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. TO GRANT.
WAsuINGroN, Monday, Feb. >, 1877.
GIN. GRANTS PAROLED PRISONERS.

WAsuINGTON, Monday, Feb ., 1877.
GEN GRANTS PAROLED PRISONERS.
O Irca, further from this letter: And not with my
consent sa this oppressed people be governed by his
uarocd prisoners aided by the whc-vered towards OF
the North" what mad that to do with your duties as
honest members Of the Returning Boardf ~ All, 1t Lad
a good deal to do with It.
O. Explain itl \. Tie condition OF our country Is
very different from tnat here; the people are iorced
with tie bullet the ballot is snapped for the bullet ana
determined wherever that was done that 1t should ho
a. tolerated il had voice in the matter; sal there
"bt raroed prisoners :" BY that meant that the Con-
fdrtc soldiers together with their associates, should
NOT control the destiny Of the oppressed people by ylo
icHcc and intimidation. That il my answer. - .oo.4
o. was there any idea IN your mind tnat your consent
was needed TOR anythinsi i. Ny consent was EeeuCu
Q Tlen why did you speak Of your consent IN this
l.ffrrl A. To say that would not approve any tning
tiat conceived "a be Illegal or improper ,,
Q. Had any sucn thing been prOp0seai A. 1 ah'lcl-
f''o ATTEMPTED BRIBERY
q Mover mind ANTICIPATING Had any such thing been
proposed! \. by the Hon. Duncan T. kenner' Il very
wealthy gentleman in the State Of Louisiana.
O. What did he proposel A. lie proposed to give me
5000 o0O TO change the vote for Mr. Tllden. lie made
the proposition his oiice on SUNDAY, the l9th OF
November bet Gcen 10 and II o'clock IN the morning.
O. After the board had begun 10 canvass a. nc
board didn't begin to canvass until the 2Jth; this was
O. 1t was in consequence OF bride offered to you that
van wrote in ns letter senator West that the state OF
Louisiana should never with your consent be GeNetea
over To the plruc prisoners was II ~ 40; IL was III
tins way, that never would consent thar ny Dil3eS,
which illegal act, these parties Should cohtloi 1t
stat; Enew positively tat the keloeas VIZ aUui
600 ger, and that the only way the Sle cOuu
be controlled by the other side was through MONEY; M
o. Had there been any proposition ln your OOiiu Ist
there should be any but legitimate count a. Iefll,nl
not but when proposal was made To Duy the count
with money thcre Mas ilieglt4nlacy mere i,,,s ~,
O. Had YOU any dstrus Of o;hcr OF You! aSsocaies OH
The boad A. had not h P deS Know 10 now w far
money would 70 with any body IL Is slH INA, az n,|
and a,s0cat,s on the board had thell price OF NOT
o. Now Sir, DO you really think that the eNcitelheht OF
the people OF Louisiana against your 1oaaq or agIms,
your party was caused by morley I,,uid'cu "uioAs
Them A. by no other cause IN The world, , ..,u
O. Their honest convictions are not al all against your
pr0ccodmgs A No, SIR, 1t Is the POLITICIANS VINO axe
creating the whole thing. ,,,,
vofr of Inc state was danger being taken from them
by fraudulent cluvassng and countIugt A. MOI tne
AK The vote of Louisiana by violence were offended
ANA feared the result of their violence. m
srt there that the millions had been sent there to III
nuence your Returning BOardi a. You may say II, but
O. Can you tell us whose influence was to be affected
by millions Of money a. some Republicans AS matter
@. On what board or in what office A. don't say
upon board, Ou To change the result III some mahef
@. How could it be changed except through your
boaIdi a. In the event OF the vote OF the state
bciuy cast Tor Hayes, would 1t not
I've a,' opportunity for them to tamper
with soac one, and would not this money give an OPP
fassuac the board In ISL there was an ASSASSIN sent
to assassiuate me. lie sat by my side Lad hiIn
rushed out of the room, and the Democratic lawyers,
when had him turned out by police officer pursued
HIM and said Let protect him. Mr. Zacnarie Is
one of the gentleman who made that exclamation. .
MIR. Fled-Ihe witness outrIgc5 all license or VIII
neses aud must ask you request him to answer my
questions and answer more AT tins pointthe wit
ness interrupted MI. Field VINO sharply ordered him 10
"stop"
TGe Witnass-Mr Chairman, has tho gentleman u
right 10 order TO stop and DO 1t In an abrupt man
ncrl ,---t-,. . . -. -. -
The Chairman-The gentleman has right as member
of rms committee To stop witness nom nterruptng
him when he Is addressing the committee "a addressing
The WiInessIs he allowed TO 80. out Of the pale Of
gentleman TO do III -, 49, IL.
until questions asked you and then 10 answer them
and tell the truth in your answers. ,
o. Taking III the whole state together was Tie tOli
result OF ballots cast in favor OF Hayes on Oh III
deni A. We did not count the whole VI the ballots
q Taking all those that were returned Was the ma
iorty In favor OF Hayes OF 1ildent a. think they
were in favor OF Mr.. Hayes.
O. Aud because the majority In favor Of Hayes you
thought the Tiien party would hlre mop 10 move Oh
the board and destroy the returnsf A les Sir
O. Ii the majority III favor OF MI hayes, tell us
why YOU threw out 10000 Tden yotesf A. We threw
ont 1ilden votes and Hayes votes TOO.
O. What was the actual majority FOR hayes ms reported
nv your boardl A. Three thousand four hundred or
$500, think
O. Explain then, how It happened that there was a
majority OF only 3i00 for Hayes when you TIRE" oW
lO0J0 Tlden votes, and when, as you say there was
originally majority for Hayest A. IL was w me ~