The Jasper weekly courier. [volume] (Jasper, Ind.) 1858-1922, 1877-11-23

The New York senator Tnlks About Men
nnd Things Dissecting l1is Foes--Razor-
Cuts NJ the President.

From nm Interview In the y. Y. Herald
9 Mr.. Conkling, are you satisfied that the
Administration at Washington was anxious
for your uefeatyr
"From the time Hayes came into Office
and appointed Democratic Cabinet" said
Mr.. Conkllng, "thc principal labor Of little
Evarts and the rest has been TO withdraw
the Republican support from me.v
Has Esarts made any expression on that
headw
" lie told a gentleman some time ago that
the reform movements Of the Administra-
ton, as far rs New York was concerned,
were 20 break up chicfainship. suppose
that cheftainship was declaration Of cen
sure upon myself"
. But has the Administration directed any
official act against you In this last electionr'
Yes. They made the removals Of the
principal Office holders In New York, whom
match them 10 duplicate, much less ex-
eel, week before this State election came
on Was that chivalric behavior toward
Republican seeking 10 extricatc this State
from the Democratic Administration.
And" said Mr.. Conkling, with rising feryor,
III we had received the Hayes votes in the
State Of New York, or even fair por-
ton ofthem, the State would have been Re-
publican to-day, restored 10 it, proper place
4 In influence and character"
THE cIyIL-sEHvfcE ORDER.
"Do You think that the celebrated order
directing ofiicc-holders 10 abstain from all
political action was also intended TO operate
I against individual public menu
Undoubtedly that celebrated reforma-
tory order was factional in its intent, made
in the interest OF cnyious and presuming
little men. Sherman goes out 10 Ohio and
makes speeches In defiance Of IL; McCrary
goes TO Iowa and manages a convention
despite the order, and finally Devcns-who
Is pretty good sort Of fellow, or has been in
the past-writes TO Massachusetts II think
49, Ifs..x Lx.I1.
mons and says that the order meant itself
to he dsobeyed, and that the way 10 obey il
was to violate it,"
THE MASSACHUSETTS VICTORY.
"what il your opinion Of the Massachii-
sets election, which the Hayes men are
claiming a. victory for the policy"
"Thaf election shows only how well real
party men behave. The men who dislike the
policy and could see no honesty In the Pres
ident's position on the Southern question,
nevertheless walked 10 the polls and east
their ballots for the Republican candidates.
The HAYES men also voted in Massachusetts,.
But in this State OF New York | charge that
the Hayes element was not only indifferent
20 the election, but voted the Democratic
ticket by hosts. The state Of New York il
Democratic to-day by the act " the support
ers Of the President.
nAYEs's SOUTHERN POLICY.
"Senator, criticism on President Hayes
seems TO be defective, because II does not
substitute any kind OF action in place Of the
action that he has thought fit to take"
"There Is no considerable element in the
Republican party" said Senator Conkling,
switch objects To the removal Of troops
4 from the Southern States. l have made no
objection on that score. But all that was re-
qured Of i,in was 10 take out the troops and
nothing else. He had no right to make a
bargain or compromise with the Legislature
Of the State in theinterest Of the Presidency.
His interference with State by compromise
or bargain was as much n violation of the
law as II he had interfercd with troops and
by arms"
(" Nevertheless, Senator, large element Of
opposition 10 Mr.. HAYES comes from the
radical Northern element,
"Ncry probably" said Mr. Conkling.
All through the North are substantial pco-
pie who are like Miles Standish in their de-
,otion % the original intcnts and sympa-
thicS OF the Republican party as free
Northern party. These people do not OBJ
feet 30 much 10 Withdrawing physical force
from the South a. they do 10 the conspicuous
contrast Of MIR. Hayes in the Presidency by
the vote Of Louisiana and Mr.. Packard turn
cd out. Every man knows that on the face
81 these returns Packard was more elected
than Hayes by three or four thousand votes.
You can not present those returns in any
form that will not give more legality 10
Packard a. Governor Of Louisiana than 10
assumes all the virtues ~ reform in an office
which he has gained by the simple rcpudia-
ton OF the ladder that lifted him. 1t j. the
general record OF usurpcrs that though sns-
tanned, they do their fayors 10 the other
side. The President has Democratic cab
met
DEMOCRATIC CABINET.
+" How do you make that out."
"Dcvens always ran for Office in Massa-
chusetts on the Democratic ticket. lie new
cr was a Republican. Schurz took himself
out Of the Republican party years ago. Key
Is Democrat. ] am sure" added Mr..
Conkling, "that nobody counts Eyaris n
Republican. The Democrats were 50 GER
tain Of the contrary that they had proposed
\ 70 nominate him for the Office Of the Govern
or In this State. ! have no faith in Presi-
dent whose only distinct act j. ingratifude
10 the men who veted for him and the party
which gave him its fealty. In the domain
and forum OF honor that sense Of MIR. Haycs's
lntidelty stands forward and challenges him.
II IL felt BY honest men all over this coun-
try. lie smiles and showers on the oppose
ton the proofs Of disturbed mind"
" He has been great traveller, SENATOR
Yes, am told that there has not been
fortnight since he was inaugruated that
there has been n quorum Of the Cabinet
present In the capital city,
"Ha,c you rcadthe Presidents speeches.
eyes: I think old Harry Lee ought 70
have heard that speech where he compared
the soldiers Of the Confederate and Federal
armies to Greeks. We beat you,' he said,
lin Nashville and Atlanta, because we had
more Creeks" Mr.. Conkling shook his
1 head and looked amusement and contempt.
THE LOUISIANA nARTEE.
"Thc Louisiana bargain and sale OF which
you spoke, senator, seems likely to be re,iv-
ed hy investigation or otherwise"
Mr.. Conkling said nothing on this direct
". "Was il consistent" he said in mo-
mcnt, !" for the President OF the United
States TO send his agents into Louisiana 70
bargain with that man Nichols, who ~ all
the evidence and bv the status 81 the case
was a red handed traitor to his state Govern