New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1877-10-04

The right OF the regular delegates TO sit In convention
the convention until their right 10 ecat was de-
cided by a committee appointed for that pur'
Is the one which was offered by Nj Beene
here am perfectly willing that the number OF comtes-
anis In the convention from the city and county OF New
York shall sit In the convention along with the regular
delegaIcs, untlI committee is aproneu 70 ueciue
whether they have right to SIT IN the convent on.
MI. Morrissey-l Tse to answer the gentl' man from
Sullivan: say that all the districts in NewYork con-
tested aud under the resolutions passed n 1879 ana
1876, the members sitting m those conventions should
t IN this one We ask that privilege, and thai only I'M
t the credentials are sent TO the Committee ON Con-
tested Seats and nave been passed upon by theiI .
Mr. West, of jefferson. suggested that the roll OF the
Tamnany delecaes be first called. The chair SAID he
Ncw.York
Mr. Kelly said that one-third of the delegates
to the hall. He asked that tickets Of admission be
furnished them The chair said he had no knowledge on
Mr. Ecelesne pending The call OF tie Tammany dele
cation SAID nearly all bis associates were without tickets
OF admission to he hail. and he asked that they ne iu-
nshed The chair again SAID he had no knowledge OH
Mr. Peckham, OF Albany, said there were Ave other
cOntesting delegations from NewiOrk, whose names
had been handed to the State Committee and asked that
they also be called.
Inc char ordered It and they were read.
hr Brooks, of Richmond, announced the substitution
Erastus Brooks for David Roland person rising from
his seat In the gallery claimed to be OF wentyseyen
contesng delegates from KINGS and asked that the st
be read The chair said he could not recognize the ap
plcaut who was not upon the floor Of the convention
AfEblN OF COMMITTEE On CRIDENliALS'
MI Reeves of Suffolk offered resolution that COM
mtee of one from each Congressional District be ap-
pointed on Contested Seats Mr West, OF Lewis moved
TO amend by substituting the following:
Reotred That committee Of one from each Congressional
committee credentials shal referred all
Of contested seats and delegate shall DO entitled TO vote for
memboS OF committee whose scat is contested.
Mr.. Beebe of sullivan, seconded the proposition OF
the gentleman from Lewis lie claimed that respective
delegations State conventions had suffered in their
rights by reason OF denyny the right o.
wanted this high prerogatiye The chair had sounded
the key note OF the coming campaign that OF the rgn
Of representation. THIS would be the issue and we must
maintain IL here % well as elsewhere lie then passed
IN review the action OF the returning boards OK the
South and compared 1t with the proposition made here
by the State Committee, which was received with great
applause.
vocted the original resolution. lie did not believe that
the temporary chairman would pack the committee on
credentials and when ii would make ITS report tho case
would still be in the conventions power
Mr. Farcnild OF Orleans, father OF Attorney General
State conventions had been to repose in the hands Of the
temporary chairman, the power 70 name the complttee
O Credentials. lie could soc no god reason Tor chang
the custom.
Mr. Dewitt Of Kings called attention to the fact, that
under the proposed amendment, district, in which
there contest have voice III the choice OF the
committee. THIS transparent contriyance 70 DIS
franchise One-thrd Of this convention because Of pan
tom delegations that have here 10 furnish preteXt
for excluding large portion OF those truly sent here to
represent the party. The effect Of this would he 10 IN
TOduce dlscorl-i0 break tie harmony which should
unite the party in the coming campaign. There is
thing else to be considered than Iahudny ana anu l
many. LAPplause.l 49,, ... a.. on..,,on r..
whether the convention should depart fom the custom
and rule governing former conventions, and take
from the presiding officer ms rShts as such
officer incidentally. he remarked that The Assent
by rules do give the char power TO appoint
side of the House Laughter and applausel Inc gen
eman from Lewis says II is unDemocrac, but ne Mr.
Peckn) denied this. The resolution does not call on
the state Committee TO name this committee IL cas
on the chairman alone. lie has the responsibility upon
hm no matt whose advice be sees NJ 10 ASK III t.e
premises. To take the power from he chairman was 70
east sur and reproach npon MN -,.,.- -..,,.
Mr. cQuade asked IT. when the report OF the commit
tee lentas was made, the convention could not
Mr' Ruser.Yes sr; but when any encroachment is
made my rights n delegate meet 1t on the IN
slant It is presented. lGreat applause.l Dem
ocac CONSTITUENCIES had been DISTINGUISHED by this Or
biary rule. He cited an instance Of one district III MS
own County which, was entitled to seats the floor OF
the convention last year. nut under TINS system OF per
hitting the state Committee, through the temporary
Chairman make the committee Oh credentials had
Mr. brooks, OF RIchmond protested against a remark
by the gentleman from Kings lr DeWtD that this was
Sir. Dewitt said he made no such auson to members
O, the convention but intended characterize the con-
fusion which interrupted the proceedings. Misses.
Mr Brooks resumed aud proc edrd 20 urge the ndop,
ton OF the amendment penunE dlsayoWlhg as De ana al
purpose 10 reflect upon Tue cdt nc oulu not W, Lecl
tDat it, asserted, tine committee had already been
made for announcement by the clair. the convention
owed il 10 Itself 10 refuse to ABIDE pY at Arrangement,
and should assert Its own right ana power 10
select les committee credentials for ITSELF IL was tue
question OF cuthith pOHIr oI H,'t, . 'i1 ~
| between 800 or more. He would rather trust tle
|
the custom WAS wrong IL cOhld ne more nohOISu ~
| the breach than IN the Observance lApp'auseI lie
pariamena~y bodies OF reposiug the power of malSn,
committees the hands Of the majority and those OF the
Mr. Potter Of westchester. desired to appeal to the
OF the convention and no hing else lie urged
privilege OF making committee without sucn action De
ing reelection upon the char or any9o9y else IL was
only when parliamentary bodies had before them mat
ter about which serious difference OF opinion WAS eX-
| min e,
which the convention should give form to ITS own views
by asserting its own power Instead OIL deegang IL To the
Mr.. shafer of New-York insisted that the rule which
had hitherto been applied To antiTammany should now
be appcd to Iammany herself He cited the action at
! TIE syracuse convention OF 1873. when the anIan-
MANY delegates turned or the convention Oh the
report OF committee appointed by the temporary chair
Ihe onair here said that Mr. Shafer contestant
on the oor lie could not permit him 10 iurtner debate
line pending question SO Mr. Shafer took his seat amid
iWr Green of Niagara cited the proceedings OF the
state Committee last night in which the majority OF tina
committee provided for these committees aud took all
power away from the convention. This the situa
ton nineteen members of the state Committee assumed
all the power -
Here Mr. Kelly to speak, when Mr. shafer raised
the point OF order that Mr. Keys seat contested
and he had no right to speak here. lApplause.l
A voice in the crowd: "6it down, you big-headed
loafrr" llaughter at which both Mr. Kelly aud Mr..
| shafer looked inquiringy.
| were given wi 4 "a vOcferOus will
Mr. Brown Jefferson, proposed that TINS convention
should in such manner as TO warrant tue people
the state in giving victory 10 the Democratic party He
warned them against following tue precedent OF the
Rochester convention where base majority seized the
oryauZation OF party for two years. through THIS
very policy proposed by the STATE Committee lie called
upon the convention here and now to get Id OF ms ar
itrary rule MI Reeves, OF Suffolk. briefly supported
his resolution amid such great confusion rs to be almost
| nnueard lie said, during his twenty years experience
i'm state conventions the custom to proceed IN the
manner he proposed in his resolution. and that The
unyaTying practice created strong presumption OF its
| wisdom. -, --..-
Mr. Mooney OF Erie then moved the previous question,
which was ordered The question was stated, aud the
substitute offered by Mr.. West OF Lewis, who called Tor