The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-09-25

same day. thought was good subject for seasck-
ness and expected the motion OF the ship would turn
me inside out, but was not SICK minute. As mat.
ter Of fact was disappointed"
4~ GRANT MOTLEY.
'sT SEQ q reference IN q newspaper eulogy OF MI
Motley your position toward that ofnecr, and tho
intimation that your action Was one or the remote
causes Of his deathf"
"Yes. havc read II, and II does great Injustice
Mr.. Motley was, certainly very able, very honest
gentleman, a. 70 mold any Official position. But ne
knew long before he went out he would have to
60. Whom Was making these appointments Mr.
Sumner came 70 me and asked to appoint Mr.
Motley Minister 70 the Court OF 81 James I told
him would, and did. Soon after Mr. Sumner made
that violent speech about the Alabama claims and the
British government was greatly offended. Mr. Sumner
was at the time chairman Of the Committee Foreign
AfarH
MOTLEY SUMNER
"Mr. Motley had TO b instructed. The instructions
prepared very carefully and after Governor Fish
and had them for the last time wrote an
addcndum charging him that above all things no should
handle tho subject OF the Alabama claims with tho
greatest delicacy Mr. Motley, instead Of obcying his
explicit instructions. deliberately fell in line with Mr.
Sumner and thus added insult TO the previous injury
As soon hoard OF u won't over to tho State De.
once was very snsvy indeed and have boon
sorry many time since that did not stick 10 nv
first dctcrm nation. Mr.. Fish advised delay because
ofSumpsrs position In the Senate and attitude on tho
treaty question. We did not want stir him up again
just then We dsspstohed OF severe ccnsure 10
Motley oncc, and ordered him 10 abstain from auy
further connection with that question. We thcrerpon
commenced negotiations with tho British Minister nt
Washington, and thu result the Joint High Com
10y would be mnply enough 10 resign after that snub
but he kept till no removed. Mr.. Sumner prom.
Used me that no would vote for tho treaty But whom
it nrst before the Senate he did all no could 10
beat It.
~ must tell you an incident about Mr. Sumner
Tho FIRST time over saw George William Curtis no
called upon 10 request behalf OF a number OF
influential republicans the Reinstatement o. Mr. sum.
ncr chairman OF tho Committee Foreign Afraira
told him that, should go tho Senate and dictate
tho organisation Of the committees. would be apt 10
hear something about the fellow who made q fortune
by minding his own business said certanIy should
suggest Tho idea to any part OF the legislative branch
that should undertake 10 construct my Cabinet 1
gave him distinctly understand that did not pro-
pose 10 Interfere In tho matter ALL even by advice
TO personal friends among tho Senator's, and that
thought Mt. sumner lad dono hts duty M chair.
Of the committee, because no had han,pcred tho
business Of the State Department by pigoouholing
treaties for months. Mr.. Curtis that was mpos
sbic, for Mr. Sumner had only short time before
told HIM that his would ind clean dockct
and made special claims Tor she execution Of tho work
of the committee. Knowing. as 1 did, the adrot
arguments used among Mr.. Summers friends l deter.
mined TO tost the matter OF clean docket told Mr.
Curtis that had proposed to prove 10 him that MS
friend Mr.. Sumner had not told him the facts and
shat hc made these statements knowing them to be
falschoods. Mr.. Curtis was amazed at my Offer
but assured him that no had been frequently
caught IN similar misrepresentation told Mr. Cur.
It's that there nine eleven treaties before tho
Senate from the state Department that had been
there several months, and had been in Mr. Summers
hands, bat had never been laid before the committed
! wrote from the spot, Long Branch, to the State
Department, ana to nv surprise there proved 10
be moro treaties than had said that had boon in Mr.
Summers own hands for q longer timo than OK.
pectcd. That WIS the clean docket When told
Mr. Curtis about It and gave him tho record no
was rather disappointed He said It was remark
able. told him my object In having tho TO-
cord searched was TO show him that Mr. Sumner
was not truthful man, ~ otheFs had found out
bsfore mo, and rs had discovered frequent &C.
casionx- Tho work Of tina, committee when Mr. Cam.
cron took charge was In q most deporabe state due
entirely 70 Mr. summers persistent obstructvencss
and dilatorincss
DID NOT DISMISS SUMMER.
~ had nothing to do with hts dismissal from tho
Craftsmanship OF tho Foreign Relations Committee
but / was gnd when i heard that no was
put of, because no stood in tho way of even
routine business. like ordinary treaties with small
countries may be blamed for my opposition
to Mr. Summers tactics but was not guided SO much
by reason Of his personal hatred OF myself as was
BY desire to protect our national interests In dplo
matte affairs. II was sad sight find Senate with
the largo majority Of its members In sympathy with
the ADM istration, and with its chairman OF the
Foreign Committee in direct opposition to the foreign
policy of the administration, In theory and detail So
was glad when heard OF his successors nomination
as chairman OF tho committee. shall never change
my mind as 10 tho wisdom OF the policy that brought
about the Washington Treaty with Great Britain no
matter how much the friends OF Mr.. Sumner and Mr.
Motley may defend the indirect damage humbug wo
could procured the OF tho Brit.
ish Comm ssioners or people to such thingr
SERVICE REFORM.
"Gcuera they running civil service reform verv
strong just now?"
$50 see but 1t will work. because the theorists
have disagreed among themselves as to its practical
application. do not attach much importance to that
matter do not believe It will succeed though I
wish II could, IN some practical way Take Schurz
for instance. He is making business Of civil service
reform. But he Is humbug, and Mr. Hayes will find
him out before long. 1t is good thing but i. liz hard
to apply in GU. country 1t Is all very well to say that
the business OF Office seeking shall DO abolished but
the Office seeker caunot easily DO abolished and tho
moro the theorists quarrel among themscives the
further civil service reform seems 10 rccede
SOUTHERN REPUBLICANS
"what do you think Of tho dissolution of republ.
can State organ izations IN Tho Southg' =. u .,,.,
"That is one OF the usual violent cccs OF wise GOV
ernmcnt after Of turmoil like wo mad las, fall.
For myself, do not care for party. Yon can ALWAYS
depend upon tho good sense of the people of the
United States. They believe IN the Republic Their
nag Is to the fore, with strong arms behind u always,
and they are sentimental, loyal and bravo They will
never elect nigh official except upon common sonse
basis. For that reason becvc--,he republican ana
democratic parties OF late being so evenly divided