The New York herald., 1877-11-17
THAT CONKLING INTERVIEW
THE GREAT SENATOR'S DENIAL AND FoRAE
FUNNY DENIAL WORTH RECALLING.


FUNNY DENIAL WORTH RECALLING.
To THE EDITOR TIM HERALD:-
You have shown sufficiently that Senator Conking's
official denial concerning the report OF his convcrsa
ton in your Journal OF last Friday did not in fact
deny anything. though no evidently intended 70 pro-
duce the public mind tho impression that no
had denied reiuted the OF your report
1t Is needless say that who knows the Sena-
tor least doubt that your reporter gave mar
vcllousy accurate account OF his conversation This
opinion is strengthened by the fact that he IN
New York on tile whole Of Friday. the day on which
the report appeared and to have takon the
least care far the public knows, to deny us
curacy 1t did him then and promptly to
repudlate any OF The sentiments or language On
Saturday he appeared in Washington, and
still he was silent On Saturday afternoon there
prolonged Of the republican Senators hold to
Try get unanimous agreement from the Senators
oppose tho President That atemnt failed utterly.
1t developed fact that the President is stronger
and Senator Conkiing weaker by good deal than tn
latter beloved In point Of fact Mr.. Conking was
beaten Saturday and revolving this dsastef In his
mind Sunday, he evidently became demoralized,
and Monday, more than three days after your
port appeared he jumps up ia the Senate and--doos
what2
In the FIRST place he suggests that hs is tho
habit bf making personal explanations That is hon-
sense. No Senator mukes personal explanations so
often in such choice language Mr. Conkling He
is always making them.
Then he goes 70 say
l may add that though some OF tho remarks
ascroed to me in the publication in question may at
some time have been made in private ana casual
versaion others Of them never proceeded from
any time
Wuat the public would like to know aud had right
to know was which, In Mr. Conklings mind, was truo
and which false in the report II the matter was Of
sufficient moment to be mentioned all certainly it
important enough Tor him-as he admits that
things correctly siated-to separate the true
from the false. But added vaguely .'forms Of
preston ascribed which seem mo
quite indeoorous say the lsassn Which s.forms OF
expression"f Again his remarks are SO vague mat
they fail to do himself justice. Finally he says sin the
presence OF the gratifying and splendid achievements
OF tho republicans Of Now York could be- tho
mood they tine words Of the report would indicate
Now, Il s very common subtcriu2e OF q cornercd
witness in court, Mr.. Cooking knows. 10 assert
that "under the circumstances be could NOT have said
what is charged" but Mr. Conking knows very
we' TOO lawyers reply 70 such Trans sranspar. n,
could not have said, but what you did
say which the Court wants to know" And
precisely what no d,d say or did not say Mr.. Conk-
ing has carefully conceaied under = small cloud OF
roundabout phrases. He was making apology 70
the Senate for an indecorum, and he contesses In
part and denies IN part. He says, ''Sonc OF
MARKS never proceeded from me AT any time" But
which OF tnemS Was ne perhaps afraid that IL he
your reporterS II he had aud had come TO grief II
would not be the 9rst time that personal explanation
In the year 1871 several newspapers published the
Trealy Of Washington, thon before the Senate IN
secret session lhe Senate tell INTO a rage. anu IN
secret sesslon adopted resolution ordering
ALI investigation. ThercupUn some ncwspa-
pers charged that SENATOR Conkiing had drawn
the resolution, and that Senator Carpenter
hsd offered H. On this charge Mr. Conkling, May
20 rose IN open session to u personal explanation
He remarked that s'Lho matter Uelore had
been beclouded and encountered with allegations SO
unfounded as TO merit correction, and added sS0me
OF these Inventions relate 10 me- Then he went on
to say :--.'lhe Investigation was sugges ed or
originated by me, nor ny the Senator from Wisconsin
The betrayal of the treaty and the need OF invests
gatUp were brought 70 the notice OF the Senate
by the Senator from Wisconsin nor by me. Indeed,
heard ior the rst time IN the Senate that alleged
the day alter the publication and my first Inor-
| nation on tue subject The Woe President
| did me the honor place the committee rns
was done without consultation win me aud without
knowledge or wish on my part, and SO on, with a
good many more words vi explapation.
VI course tho galleries that poor Mr.
Conkling had been grossly and wantony sanderod by
| vindclivs and unscrupuous press, aud they would
lave remaiAod convinced but Tor singular and
ludicrous incident When Mr. Conkliug haa COM
peted hs personal explauatton he lett the Senate
ball. alter he passed Vice Presiuent Wilson
tered. He had not heard Mr. Conklng personal expl-
nation, but, rising reply 10 some remarks OF Senator
1--WE have had AN nveslig igaton Inc honorable Senator
from New York tMr. Conkling prepared the resoiu-
ton; IL was introduced by the honorable Senator from
Wisconsin," Here Mr. Carpenter called ..Order, -
and complained that Mr\ Wilson was disclosing what
| took place IN executive session, and presently
Mr. Conkling rushed In, IN great excitement
and fury, and rose TO another pcrsonai ex-
PLANTATION, In which he abused the Vice President
placing him In a ialsc positon-how, pray Y-and
ended up by conessing that be did write the
uon, but claimed that he had done with especial
/ animus" II took good many Dg words to complete
this second persoaal explanation, and when " was
done those VINO wore IN The senate that day went
away satisfied that In Mr ConKl,ns's own opinion Il
was not complete success; Tor ne could not help
mcmberlng that, In the midst OF ingenious fog oi
denia he had inadvertently gone too TAR suggest
Ing that there was no reason within his know dge
why ne should have been placed the committee oi
investigation. He knew very well tnat Is customary
TO place the author and presenter OF resolution on
the committee which II produces. and that bo-
cause ho wrote and Senator Carpenter offered the
resolution that tho Vice President put these two on
| the committee Aud he not only know TINS, but be
knew, aIas that other people knsw II; hence lac was
that occasion III satisfied with his second personal
explanation one day. doubt N no is betior salts.
lied with his last honuay's effort
| Brooklyn, Nov. IL, 1917.