, 1877-10-28
TWEED.
An interesting Talk with the Ex.
Boss"
His Characterization Of Hall, sweeny,
Connolly, and Tilden.
What Tweed Intended Doing II He Had
Not Been Captured,
And What He Would Do # He We're Free to
Begin Life Again.
N<ip Fork Herald, Oct. 20.

HnaI ls IL you arc connned 1or now, hr.
| Tweed. Are you under sentence or awaiting
| trial?''
t'Well, Pm confined for debt. They say i'm
! prisonment for debt was abolished in America
| many years ago, but don't see it. You can ar
! rest man for debt here easier than in any
country In tho world. Walk around this Jail
and ask who now are here? My Imprisonment
is for inability to pay that six millions OF dollars
for which I hayc had judgment found against
me- And they can keep me here until rot.''
swell, the election which is coming of will
put in new State ot1lcers.''
s'But the same Governor will ba in ofIice,''
said Mr.. Tweed 'No. Ny remedy must be
found in the courts. ! have made all the resti-
tuition in my power. I am not indictable. I
am simply here because cannot pay judy
meut.''
'"Are you tho only member Of the Ring now
held in duress?''
1.-THE only one. 1pgersoll and Woodward are
both out. sweeny lives up town. Connolly
is in Switzerland Hall is in London Or therea-
Are you on good terms with any of these
persons!"
>" No, not at present. have Just found to-
day, looking over my papers, a receipt in full
for suit which lngersoll for Woodward, have
another check Of Jimmy O'Hrien, and some
other letters OF Hugh Hastings. You see, it is
slow and laborious matter to go back and re-
call Or recover these little items in an almost
tumultuous career"
"Wasn't it y foolish thing for Woodward to
have ycntured over the Canadian line to Chi
cago!"
Sim satisfied that he did it by arrangement,
and that 1t was understood be WAS to be ar
"Why did Hall run away-on the score Of
your confcssion!"
''Hali, think, has been crazy, or growing
crazy, for years. He was dreadiully tircsome
fellow, with his weak little puns."
But he was useful, was he not, in the way
OF drawing up advantageous or cunning bills!''
!" He was fAir at that, not accomplished; not
real expert. Hall was pretty good On his
la:s,6 isgs, to i preside at dinner or make ready
''What '' is the meaning. Of the rumor that
swccny and the sweeny influence arc at work to
keep YOU IN jail!"
~ don't think Sweeny wants me out He's
probably going into politics again. You know
lie never came to the front much, but wanted
to rule from position OF retirement. He can
reach influences which / cannot reaetl.''
THE MAN AT THE FRONT.
" But you never quarreled much with your
asspgiatesl'
''So. They didn't quarrel with me. because
Twas the only man who would 60 to the front.
They couldn't rely on each other it anything
desperate was on hand. remember once there
was meeting to be held where Elijah Purdy
tell you frankly, I'm afraid to 20 to that meet
ing, You may 60, but don't want to- sPooh,
pooh!' said Purly, we didn't expect that OF
you, Tweed; III 20 myself So went tllat
aight and nSold Nc rprdy came 'cope Cor en- r..
chair, and wasn't very comfortable in it,
either. 4 nun from California, BY the name OF
Doyle, was running for Recorder against Bar
nard. (fhis recollection is at randou.) saw,
as the roll-call proceeded, that Doyle had the
majority of delegates. Said l to q Secretary:
Have motion madc to dispense with calling
the roll!' 1t was done 'A1} in favor OF MIR.
Barnard rs the nominee OF this body say aye.
Garfield The meeting is adjourled!' Well,
there was riot unl | was driven into one cor
upr. isaiah Ryndcrs had pistol as long rs my
arm drawn aud cooked. Said Le, 'lil pay you
for thisn I was scared, but I didn't say so.
I'm not afraid Of whole ward Of you fighting
''Tncn you never quarreled with sweeny?'
s'Oh, Sweeny is Il hard, overbearing, revenge
full man. He wants lis way and treasures up
wrath He has considerable ability OF its kind.
Wv W. were SO opposite mud unlike that we got
How LID YOU ever take into your confidence
"Connollg was before my time; mad to
take the world Us it was aud not make it anew.
He was powerful man i'll his ward aud district,
being from Cork, and that region in other days
was full Of Corkonians. II yon would walk
through there and talk against Connolly
it would be at your peril. We could not get
along without Connolly, and am annexed @ hin for for
Federal Custom-House officer and in Mayor
Hayemcyer's Bank"
"Wno got Connolly oI?''
tsTiidcn, through the aid Of Mayor Have |
meyer"
WHAT HE INTENDED 70 no.
stWhat did you intend to do, afr. Tweed, If |
you had been let alone in Europe!'
~ should have lived in Spain all my life. |
had designed to go into some quiet part, Cata- |
lonia or Somewhere where living was incxpen- !
siye, and have always been prudent in my |
appetites and personal living. l could have !
lived there for the rest OF my days"
American society, or to revisit New York would !
have bothered you at ti1ncs:'
III think not. At that time felt indisposed
to talk to meet acluaintances, to do ANYTHING
but resi- and get some education beyond what
had. But it Is mistake" remarked Mr..
papers have done, rs man without lair edll-
cation and an appreciation OF it. In 1852, when
l WAS running for small office in this
city, it was printed about me that was taken
never drunk in my life. My father lived to old
ase AMI dropped dead in the street. l have
never smoked cigar nor chewed pierre OF to-
bacco. l never liked whisky. Being man Of
large BODY, l A01 l0uQ OIL SUou cisl1HEs DAt AoA
nv attention TO temperance should have been
ia my grave years ago."
WHAT he WOULD DO.
uMav ask. what would You do il you were
out OF this prison and free to begin lille agan!"
: ~ should 60 to New Orleans or to the West
1dlcncss is my aversion. l do more work IN
this Jail than anybody in it. Look on that win
dow-siil at those piles OF books-the Daay
Transcript and other MISUNDERSTANDING to
my examination. | spend hours ransack1ns
them every day. During the height OF ms
prosperity in this city made evcTybody AROUND
me wnrE, and it used to be d saying, There
comes Mr. Tweed, now we will have to sweat.
Nv son-n-lar is in business in New Orleans and
could make myself useful to him US travelling |
aren't or in some other way-enough to give me
employment and living. Ii did not go there
I ycuid start life out West"
tsPcrl,aps you mistrust yourself. Would not
the thirst for politics in New York resume It's
place."
No, am too old and indifferent, and Wou1d
not even vote In this country again."
HIS VIEW or T1LDES.
*sWhat kind Of President would Mr: l'laeh
have made had he been peacefully inaugu-
ratcd!' uv
SWELL" said Slr. Tweed musingly, III Cop
prcss we're called 10 meet on the 18th OF March, !
ind by constitutional requirement tue fresl.
dent would have to send in his Message on tnat
lar. Iilden would have it ready perhaps by Inc
It'll OF April following. He always puts OIL
H.;
But if he has so much procrastnatlop IN Ms
habits how did Mr.. Tilden become so rich"
ttBy tiring people out" said Mr.. Tweed
I.Hc would lust sit down and wear out the