The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-04-18
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Showers of Denials and AvalancheS
TWEED CHARTER GHOST STORIES.
Legislators Of the Past and Present De-
cry. Defy and Deprecate.
HORACE TOLD ME TO DO IT,"
He Could Get What He Wanted
Without U.s."


sry, 'si all about his aceompioss and DO good and
iaahisi witness for the peope-naturaily enough
ereasd some excitement here. where there
Zen sxelse msmbcrs OF both houses who voted Tor
his famous Of 1870. The so-csilea confession
IN yscr contemporary deisy dovetailed into the
gaopss OF fSeea's proposition as given 10 the cor
respondents Of the press ~ he lawyer, Mr. John D.
1o~nsend. that many deceived INTO believing
that the confession seat from here really what
Tweed made 20 The Attorney General To tie initiated
- A. needless 20 suggest that the alleged confession
vss prepared New York IRON the erippings Of
Mr. I~sed's conversations In Ludlow Street JAIL
Sail was ingenious sensation, and took
veil Cor the day. bui The confession thai tho
Attorney General has In his possession and which BIO
fntsnds 20 keep under lock key until no hts
Gay 10 making proper aud effective use Of ~ what
the Attorney General hoos may be guessed az by any
svssAse newspaper reader who followed devel.
spsests VI The Ring conspiracy as they have APP
psassd from time 10 ume. The Attorney General
hes documents snoueh 10 keep him busy tor awhile
bas. - he says himself he thinks % would be both
cruel and unjust accept all of them unmpeacha-
sblc proofs OF criminalty.
wHAr rnx ATTORNEY gESsgAL SANS
Meeting him tins afternoon hts once, asked him,
Yoa have very likely read tho reported Of
Tweed Published IN New York;"
.Ycs. he replied. bui all except perhaps
ment 10 thss socAilcd conlcssloh have hoard tmo
and again"
"what 10 that ssa,emeutY'
yrpse voLosR ExcuLrArED
"rhe statement In reference to Judge Focer. Of the
Court Of Appssls I never before heard that Tweed
paid money 10 Judge Foiger. A. yet have read
shs decamsuts given me by Mr. Townsend, because
they cover great deal OF paper and ARC IN manu-
script. Hut when Judge Folger drew my
attention TO the printed statement in regard
20 him, glanced through tho papers aud
found that Tweed entirely cxoepts Judge Fogcr from
being the recipient OF any money ut his hands, intend
ing, NO doubt. 10 excuipaie him from csrsain vague
charges mat formerly set aaost concerning tho
Judge being Indebted TO Tweed Tor his election"
RIAL CONVERSION
'Tnen you look upon shs printed confession being
simply capitalization Of the current gossip"
Nothing more than that IL Is impossible IL could
be Otherwise, Tor the that Mr. Townsend only
prrived here yesterday. AItor his no sent
word that II convenient he desired 10 me- aud iecL
ing cnweli requested that he might postpone his call
until to-day. Mr.. Townsend certainly did not give
this alleged confession TO anybody. and
the interest HIS client u would be inJudicous for
him to do 30. But have the best evidence that he
did do from this statement IN reference Judge
Foger, the oSly one have had yet TINE 70 inves.
ugaie."
rng OLD STORY, sInrLY.
"Could you let have The iuli text Of Tweed's
propositionss'
why. u 10 merely the same what he addressed
20 Mr.. Charles 0'conor. Accompanying IL are warn.
ious documents, OF which am prepared 10 speak.
and even II were doubt tho propricy Of the prose-
cutlon making public VIVA, such 10 invariably
Kept private soad the ends OF justice"
racrs rrasT.
"How long do you suppose. Mr. Falrchi,d, u Will
take you TO put tho machinery Of ,he law In operation
against those accompces Of rwcedg''
That Is Impossible 10 tell win not proceed before
the proofs convincing 10 my mind. There IN .
large of papers. but not necessarily large
Of proof There has 20 be Investigation many quar-
ter before these statements IN my Possession srlng
home conviction Where that morally certain I
viii act, but nothing VIII DO done random"
a TALK wirm Nh rowxsKSn
Before he left for New YORK asked Mr. rownsend
shat he thought OF the confession. and he answered
Except two statements there 10 notning Ic~
IN IT, We have been hearing OF these charges aud OF
the very who charged tor several years past.
but tho story happens 10 como AZ tbc er,icai
moment. and from rs eircamstaatai appearances 10
seems genuine"
"But no doubt 10 contains some facts embraced In
the documents you surrendered 10 the Attorney Gen.
sraifv
at does In u way. but the Attorney eenersi could
never take action such a confession that fur.
nshed him with checks. vouchers. memoranda and
letters aud with all these u VIII take hitn
time 10 determine where . clear and winnisg
be established Nothing Tar
nishcd by 10 tho press exceps abe
mary OF Twced's proposition ~hlch all tue
papers received. I have copies Of what gave the
Attorney General, but until he notifies % his
willingness 20 let ihem DO pubilshea cannot aloe
thcm 10 appear
on THAT TWEED sork
In regard TO the IN 1870 on the Tweed Charter
Senator Jacobs said did not want 10 nisrvs~ed
but subsequently remarked that there point
which, SO Tar. every QUE had overlooked There ~@
NO light over the faced charter The nsht
the young democracy charter. which AZ that time
everyone supposed would pass, bat several democrats
deserving thor cause u Tell through and then came
che other one. All tho reiormers. ineluing Horace
Greeley and Dorman Is Eason, were here svorlng u.
and Il was the democrats who voted against u who
were suspected Of beng Influenced. II any ono
II would DO interesting thing 10 refer 20 ,hs New
York republican press Of 1870 and how u
relation 10 " hat you call the Tweed charter.
HORACE GREELEY ASKED sgLKHre
Senator Sekreg snd --.f voted Tor what 10 called
Me Tweed charter the personal solicitation OF Mr.
Horace Greeley, an old political and personal TREND
Eho, ln an interview with me here IN the DeIevan
House. expressed the opinion that that the best
hing be DONE because by ts passage could