New-York tribune., 1877-09-19

tbeyy ncwinated him rs Mayor. That In 1853,
believe. and shortly after ne eit '9s '2un1 % ,cs M So
1 understood. kept no record OF hm' ON! hno"
va. owbcp Kelly was elected shcrr-wh'n ne ran
AGAINST Michael Conaolly-I want yoa % zen he any
,Sn@ Won may know IN regard 30 taat election Stat was
of straiSbf Al don't know of anything with regard
10 that election. don't think Mt MorissSy haa INTRO
dnced ms system of repeaters from Fmladepna at a
t,me-he had not side Of the town at eaSt-h1sl
Side Of the town, that is . 49,.
ioriy ne dd get in the Ward Aonly FROM the
Tact that be represented that ward IN Congress Tor
Alderman Of the Fourteenth wara ward populated oy
abont The same class of pcople-the same feeling
Q.-Do You believe tnat the majority that hey s9t IN
the Fourth Ward was an honest majority or notf Al
think IL was; no doubt OF IL.
o.-Do YOU Know nothing to the contraryi Al
know nothing 10 the contrary. - -,
the Fcnrth s KIN and Fourteenth formed Congress
sona District he had represented and the same remarks
"S oDo yCu know of any frauds connected with Key's
election Ia those three wardsf A-No, SIR.
ANYTHING TO BEAT CONNOLLY.
o-WIth regard to the Seventh Ward, do you know Of
nnv frauds connected with Kelly's election in that
warli Al do not | very anxious he should
beat Judge Connolly IN that ward .-..,,a ,.,.o
Odd you cheat for hint A-No; would nave
done II It il had been necessary AT that time
Odd you do itl A-No; u was not necessary;
o-what instructions were given 20 the caOvasseis IN
those Wards at that eleetioni Al dont know "i any
oeBo exceedingly careful in dealing with this matter
want to know generaly' whether yGH hSSw % x eiy
beat Connolly Al dont know OF any, sir. ,, -
Odd you ever hear OF any Al don't mink ever
heSrd 70 i was so preudicod against Connolly. how
ever that anything could nave 0gen zone aglus. ,i ni
(Q.-RepcatedJ Al did not VIII state poSlu'eH'
uuequivOcally, taat dld mol. -,
MI TOwnseud-WOn't YOU Oe kind enough % put that
question more directly references 90 the Fourteenth
wardi That TO have been the most decided and
decisive 0hjecton-that the Fourteenth Ward was USED
o-I%gli direct Your attention to the Fourteenth
Mr gOwnscnd-Jummy HAYES was at that time IN
charge. and It spoken opcnlyi
Al know OF no ilregularilies or anythnS wrong be
ing done IN that election IN the Fourteenth ward bu
think thai ward would have been as likely as any UI
j think Mr.. Hayes would have been likely 10 DO H. NJ
Kelly had known him from boyhood and M fact looAea
upon him az one of his own boy at that time.
TwGrD's HISTORY OF MORMssEY.
MI Twced-I read Mr.. Morrssey's suggestions and
carefully prepared myself, presumAg should 0o inter
rogated upon them. and now wishto make this reply;
From the testimony have given before TINS commit!
tee think no viii believe tha favor my sell as
good. honest have now bcen dong w9at most 3i
the papers and wEat al have adF sed no u t'i Wy
whole history of the ring ibelieVe am dong u-lL
and a% af w9T and to s Ia Raats y on # R' m hardly ' fair
to me, however, tnat the pu1lc should oe oaIled
pOV ps worse rs than myself No only my pbhc but
social relations have been aade an Object o criticism ny
tbe Hon Joan MOrIissey nave known nm ior about
tSeniy-loHt yt1 m S,i u l,1 m M II 6f fair tha I6
lie should .now VINO he is At Court of oyer and Ter
Ia9S s uan was indicted for assault with intent 20
XII In the ApH term OF sac. he was indicted for
burglary: aud the same term indicted for an assault
and batiev and al thai same Term convicted
fenced to 8i Tor sixty days having been tod the
two indie neuts for assault and battery, and burglary
Tie City Of Albany the 18Th OF July, 1851 he was
convicted OF breach OF the peace, adudged 10 be Dhd
ESQ and sentenced Tor a term ot thrcc mOg'hs III me
Albany Penentary hard labor ~ case OF ncu-pay-
lie spent nine months ID lhe Albdhy ie.nteht'is
serving ont his terms In o1| he was hdcieu h tus
county Tor an assault Win a"1serG4s @ weapon 2
the same year ana ON the same u'g Hv v-.,; H"9
indicted for a ielonous assault upon Nilndm
T. Conway with intent 20 su him; on tie same aay ne
vas indicted for felvnOus assault upon joan + H. Dag
Rst with intent 90 kill him These LAST Aitc iudc lnenlS
for TINS county. During tie Whoe oi tIat uiic'
aud up TO mat time, and up TO WITHIN very leN
wears past he has been professional lfizt-hShtei
ana a peoE9 W ga s''-D'' ~, ,te iCjiv of Noy-Yo,k he
resort oi thieves and persons OF lowcs character.
Perhaps the Wors' faults WhicA can ai' e az
e,nblnc houses protected from tn poi'e. As an or
ganzer cuoaters hc tai NO superior ana at te ume
tnIy reeoerled IL IS hardly lair that Respectable pa
pers should copy his criticisms upon me a. an induce
Incnt 10 public belief and Ialih
AT tbe.cancilsion OF his statement there was mo
moats silence, when Alderman Cole sand sraVc.y -
before tins committee public. We ale not authorized
iSr cne sSond be- sir1nuJusJ opposed 10 it, lavc
nothing to say for Mr. rssoy Int feel Chat 20
Tins committee IN ms way - WRONG uoht tlinh we
tr ryc.G-Niasi SIT here and be abused by every
fl.f thai stands on the without up. Oruuity
OF defending myscIff am ned naud ana io3l, AN ~
mil confined Will no means 0i sending Out comm M
cor, 10 anybody. This man. Morssey. has said mat
D. has given dose ANA will give Ine ahOi her, an
vfJ liyr nlin another aftcr he has gwen that lie
nds this paper here 10 hurt NE all nc ean intend 10
r.th,rk II even ybody that u .hts me.
meet such open ATTACKS Mir Cole replied that ii ques
tons were with objections IN IS way, II mgIt
deter nduy persons from accepting The FitauOn 20 pro-
pound questions. Alderman C0Wing moved that tots
should be cxpungod rom the record Mr.. Townsend
had no Oilcconn this would 50 20 the press ana MI
Tweed said that was al hc wanted
Q-NOw, there two OF three questions which have
reserved With regard To the bio0hBn Brdge; "hat
wac your connection with the Brooklyn Bridget Alt
Q-Jnst tell me your connecticut Al was at one
time a trustee aud st0ckh0dor.
IA flgEt tlrf VT u own Al
40 shares as far as paid The instilmenis omit
now TWEED BECAME BROOKLYN BRIDGE DIRECTOR.
Q-How did you inst become stockhoidcr or in any
wise become connected with the Brooklyn Bridge Tell
the story in your own words. Al cannot name tie
year. nor can be thorough in amounts; but after
IN the senate 1865 OF lSG9-6S think Mr.. Henry G..
Murphy. brother senator. called on me and said be
wanted the issue Of bonds 10 be authorized Tor
bad nothing 10 do with the Common Council
al that time aud was not member of It, sad he,
couldn't nhJeDce them T. told MN hauut
done any lobbying business there bat probably could
lfn-cessaHy I would what ] could go. short
time after tbat Mr. MurphY called on me again In the
Ireaniime had conycrseI VIA gentleman occupying
position in tie Board, emitting Inn 10 cedence AM
BE- oli me the Appropriation coud ne passed oS payhg
fOr itOr rather, tue dct authorizing tHS CohuuieI
20 pay FOR it, asked him how iuch woaid Dc needed
and forget thc amount ne toio I vi
$4,000; hut ~ was MANY asIVsi Oh, hOttel ItnI4
e. Murphy of that fact lie told me 70 20 ahcAd ana
make lie negotiation. l did and the money was
authorized 10 be apfoplited ana me pD1e is,Heo.
cannot tell the manner ia which u was done bui tha was
the result. The BROOKLYN Bridge was authorized TO
get million ami han Of dollars AFTER thc DO1s were
issued Nj Murphy called on NE one day ana proposed
should come INTO the direction Ihat was agreed 10 ana
We subscribed 10 the st0ck-nC then, but directly after
sdvaherd tse WHn a az Pe or ~, 81 noo 400 MI i"o'''
Q-DG you toll Henry G. Marphy mat you were going
20 gel the necessary rauOn by paying ior II A.
--Inat the UNDERSTANDING
Odd you tell him afterwards you had done ni A
o.%Wmch members Of the Board OF Aldermen got that
money A-TnAt know nothing about, except as re-