The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1877-03-02


anu dispense with the reading of the journal.
Ihe yeas and nays were called, and the motion
was agreed to; ycas 17j nays 50.
When the result was announced Mr.. Wood
raised the point Of order that nothing was COM
pctent for the Hous" to 80. but To proceed TO
proposition offered 10y the gentleman from Ohio
VIZ. P9pplctQnl was not in order,
Mr. Caulreld Dem. lh.l argued that nothing
WAS In order but to proceed to the consideration
OF the objections. unless there was an impede
mcnt in the way of such onsideration. such
an impedimcnt had arisen. The gentleman
from Illinois lSpringerl had yesterday offered
an Objection which hnd been accompanied by .
certificate. and the Nicr- President had refused
70 open that ccrtiicate. The resolution which
had boon offered simply asked that th" Senate
be notified that the House would be- ready to
Mr.. Hchdcc Ihcp.. Vt. called attention to the
fact that the clerk Of the court tp whom the
second certificate was delivered was Demo-
cru
NIr. Hooker Dem. Missl argued against the
order. and said that the rcui question wls
whether the certificates from the state Of Yer
mont were single or dual in their character II
they were dual, the point oi ord r did not apply.
aud IT was the duty Of the President of the Sen,
ate TO open and submit the package presented
MIR. Reagan Dem. Texnsl supported tho point
Of order and argued against the resolution rs
proposing new question which had not boon
Houses. He expressed his great regret that
where his side of the House had good. valid.
substantial objection. to the electoral count any
other objections. which could not command the
respect Of the party or Of the country hal been
made.
After some further discussion. tho Speaker
said: ." With tn" highest rr-p"'t for nll prrties
concerned. the Chair considers that great mis-
take and wrong wis committed yesterday In
the joint ssion ~ the two Houses in this. that
the presiding officer refused Ia receive a pack
agr which mad all tn" surrounding of nm au-
thenir papr IN respect ia "n slc1oral vote of
the state of Vermont The Chair does not
think that in any aspect oi TINS cas-" hc
would hc called upon To rul" that tn"
"A % If %
Ncntion yesterday was wrong He docs not
think hc pns-.Ss,s vs. ne pow'r; nor docs lr be-
liev" that. in TIA" technical ~'n-r, thn action ot
the Joint convcniiun cnn be reviewed in tins
House in tle manner proposed Ani VT there
II above all a int ol which this matt T. rests.
lha. Tact is whcihor this ,llousc should hay,
possession Ol this paper. To- that extent. and
to that cN"nt only. th" Chair thinks that the
resolution Of tii" gentleman from Illinois tCaul-
field = iu ORDER
While the Sprnkcr WIS delivering this orln-
ON there was Il sulsidcnNc of the uprOnr VIII "a
had been increasing little by lii,l' during the
day. hut soon as hc hat -, through
the noise and confusion began Ia pre-
YAH again. and in a short time the storm hnd
in reused to galn. The c"utrd point of II
was the question whether fore Tie tv.-hour
discussion hegan ia" President ~ the senate
should be- called upon 70 send back 10 tue ou-r
the packages produced yn~t nal,iN hN Mr. Hewitt
and submitted with Mr.. Springcr's objection To-
Thc .Spcqkcr did all that was in his power e,
g.t th" House INTO the regular channel
an appeal from his ruling. His rrsolu-
iion in this respect msh.l ihc oppo- .ns
0B,qriim, cania ia sTyrA syA ani T6rratra r1'- rs
nli address ng the Spenkrru' q. ~nul' tIu'.
anl worn yins him ana tho iloasr w'ih ali sorts
d.nb io.nrl iy NJ Brrl,' lD.m.. y s.. win.
m Oh" most excited manner. ulot '-ta' ueu.fi-t
lh" action of tho Speak O.. NnI wiD. ~ inlar
himself ~filI moro conspicuous. fuWirl ut..n
his desk amt thor" = '-fi ulnt'i " llN. .Nriiug
az iN' tor gf bis voice eNpr. s-.on- which, ln ilir
urnir ana rN ii,n.nt were .uiu Us unnt'li
gfhlc ai the reporters de-k. Al this tinltrN fry
member on tn Dsmo 'ra'ir side. amt r'Hrly
every on ON the Il publican SIDE. WAS ul h .,
feet. Thcstorm. however. was entirely coniincd
Srrscani-ai- Arms walked about with his silver
mace. Mr.. B'"hr stepped down. the spaces
behind the out 'r row ui DE- rs were cl4drrd an
r- iplratiXc order restored.
On Mr. Wopd'~ first motion to suspend the
rules and disp,n- with the reading of the
'ournal. the following Democratic members
voted no:
;,r. A0nor un.Mort ,.nc NAia' john II Rai
Bl-ht bns.u'r hui,halt Ni. .'.hen. caiM'l asa.
ND' C.hr,n, ,,lili- ,.,k ,ov ''.> ban. neHai
u1ii. Jont, 'Ky Krun isae. i,,a,. Nr'ict Nd,h.
ohln rhhr, Mo. r"Ii.'Nn h.e RiIi'e. kYNHu.
e, Sl.uon. smith lGal, soui.aui. slrrk- siun., f.
stanton Sicni. S'.p, irrt' Il.mt~ o. In,p,N. N,e
W4-s.riun. Wi,e. Williams Ala fud Wilson .w. Ni.--,
Tn" dohgle'on thr Vermont OBJECTIONS WAS
orrn"d hy Mr.. popplc'on Dem Ohiol. who was
Otrp. VII Drnni-on lml.. W. Monroe l,.u.
Vhils' lt49kgr NId Inn1" ipm" WN'IV NnnE IRRcm"
lH. Hayward lDcm.. Ind. and Levy Dem.
La.
- MIR. Hewitt Dom. N.Y., WHO said b." mad
lt-t ~"on ihr package from VERMONT presented
hy him Yesterday In the POSSESS ON ~ the S"--
po-, tp retain #. A. beng Mr.. irrry'- Ir',ai"
property In a f"w minui'. % senate nlr--.n-
g'r ,apH'arrd with ih" pa kne ana on,r'd t
: f. II. 4.
Mr.. Garfield lliop.. Ohinl r"Hi lit'r from the
Secretary oi the Senate. stating thr h" hai pat
the packUge on the desk, and had not sccn IL
Mr. Hewitt said the senate mo-srng wouldn't I
Mr. Gafii' im-i-i~i thni Sir Ferry had done
"Na us risnt ia taking no official nDti'" Of the
Nr. Silne Dem. No said he saw Secretary
GutNum throw th" package under the d'-N
hmuus ih" rubbish AMI aitrrwurd pick Gpnni
Mr. Frid ln.m. H. " -nid tho President Of
tn' unr had gumnii'Hd Hn rgroSiouH mis-
House con!prllr.l IT 10 rect ly,if ro--ilc. Thnt
| oNl"r had d" power lp dc anything "Ne"it TO-
kr1p otd.r ant 10 II wlinl hnl been comm 'ti.'l
/ iis"lf had, IN -olenn debate. r"pudi0t.d the
/ doNrin. that h" Wa- lp count il" votes. Tint
/ official did not u-~iur tn dr'ii" tni- question.
hy lim. II members of th" House consented 10
/ ipHt JET ih"m look To- th" iui u". I'm" House
ehnuli nlt give M on loi or rtlt' ui ii- riglts.
| u W1- tN duty oi th' l'rr-id"ui oi iIr N"unt',
wh 30 t'.i lap wd. before ln. 4" -.i' ..HIl thc
/ .iu, .finu Nl hr hnd any duult nhuut Ili 900 fur
tay, u .a-'- and IN" only rrmedy ~ WIS to
| iuNl hm back 90 open ih' pup"r in lhr pro--
ono. off ho'h HOUSES II thnro. ,y,.r, tNn RETURN.
| from Vermont they should 80 To- tn Electoral
Mr. llonr (Rop Mas Is there not Il -onroo
| fixed hy law through which th's" returns shall
Sir FioN-I is not QNci by law. You mon
conirNrn" the Constitution; nor can Congress
| make "a iaW TINT binds the States. Congress