The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-01-25

OF MassschI sct.s reported H. ne reported Il without
amendment cavii suggested II had passed tins
body. AS | say. II had been aarnn2ci nv Mr.
t.onai canvass and stood as the acknowlcseu and
visible lead OF the democratic church IL was reported
without dissent by Mr. Webster who Was Known as
the great expounter Of the constitution but was not
reported until the l0h o. May. 1s2t Ii was then re.
icrred TO tho Committee OF the Whole, and need
not suggest that when tho 10th Of
May has arrived IN this latIture
the House Of Representatives aud the senate
has ALWAYS approached the term OF ITS existence
Tor the summer The houses adjourned, aud thus tue
oill was lost. | iurn To Two OF rs provisions and
enough, that on The hrsi occasion when the votes
were To be counted meeting should be held In the
hall OF the House and alter that That the two houses
should assemble In the rotunda That IL my language
OF the bill The Senate and House of Representatives
shall meet IN the hall OF the House OF Representatives
nj the next occasion. and all future IN the
Senate room OF the Capitol" That take y 10
be the Ro'unda They were 10 stand Under Tho dome
OF the capitol on neutral ground Now. The bili pro-
vidcs that al twelve o'clock OF the day appointed tor
the counting Of the that may be givcn 10 the two
houses shall meet as ! have described. Tue packet
containing the certificates from tho electors VI
each state shall then DO opened by tho
President OF the Senate beginning with the
State oi New hampshire Gnd gong through the states
geographically" and " NO exceptions are taken
thereto all the contained certificate shall
be counted but ~ any exceptions taken the person
taking ,hc same shall state Il III writing directly and
not rsumcpt,tyey, and sign his name thcrslo; and
If the exception be seconded Nc And then each House
shall Immediately retire without question debate "a
ITS own apartment rnd shall take the on the
exception without debate by ayes aud noes 30
the question shall DO taken either house
euger shall be sent to the other Informing them Of
the decision OF The question: ana that tho house send
count MOI 10 resum. Witnessing n coun, To- be con-
duc,cd by somebody else, but 10 resume tho t.;
ana when such message shall have been received by
both houses they shall again meet In the same
suIned" And If the Two houses nave concurred
IN rejecting the vote or votes objected 10 such
unless both houses votes shall DO
counted That, Mr. President, was the bill OF 1924
voice. with recorded dissent. tina, par
amount love OF tho Republic had rel'oscd IN the two
ally, legally, peacefully truly. the result Of
an election should be ascortained IN which
tho people, by States. had recorded their
preference for the Chief Magistrate OF the people,
OBJECTION STATES.
| have said that In 1917 the vote OF Indiana was
challenged. Her Senators sat In tho Senate chamber.
In tho House. sho was represented. Tho question
shall this DO counted notg Tho Houses sepa.
rated entertained tue objection, dellberased In 1871
srrwea on %on made 's'0'e e,,h. rue house.
committee was appointed to CONSIDER ana 10 forecast
that result; committees acting IN consonancc with
each other TO predict, to foreordaD, 10 conclude
nelly how and what should be tho VOTE and tho dspo.
sitlon in the case OF Missouri A lew moments hence,
unless overpass the patience OF the Senate. shall
read the words OF one man conspicuOusiy eminent aa
he is IN tho historic group Of which was one, be-
cause, strangely enough, have read IN public Journals
that no uttered hts voice IN iavor Of the that
power was deposited exclusively with the rcsd
tho Senate. BY the participated action or Mr..
Cay and others committees were raised which
prescribed, In 1921, that the certificates OF Missouri
beng reached II snorld be reported In this way:
Were the IRON Missouri TO be counted the re-
suit would stand and thus; were they not TO be
counted, the result would stand thus and So and ia
either event James Monroe has received u
minority Of MI the electors appointed and Is there
ioro President OF the United States No suggestion
made that the presiding officer had any power On
earth upon the question. measure my expression,
Tor u he were tue vice president he rs not member OF
ms body, and has vote except the ai
tc II nc be as you are Mr.. President. member VI
the senate, You have one vote, not qaa your
Presidency. but qua your Senatorshp. II Is Ue.
cause you hold tho credentials OF the grea,
State OF Michigan, aud not because voted for you
did with great pleasure along with the majority Of
members preside u.s. that you have the vote OF
one entity OF seventy-iour, upon any question what
In 1857 the certificate OF Wisconsin opened.
A violent snow storm had ragged The electors were
impeded IN reaching Madison, tho cspital Ut that
s,ae. They arrived a. Madison a day too late
The law SAID they must vote tho day before Taeques
ton, as lawyers whom soc before me would
have nut =, was, Is tha. nanoa.ory or was
gina, sat in your chair The houses met In
the hall The certificate was reached. Objection
made The presiding officer said, ''rhis Is not tho
time" Tho icllcrs wrote down u,on u table rep
rcsentative from Kentucky rose tho President sa'd
ihis is not the tint" The President Of these two
bodies sitting together then rose and state II with
brcvy, because VIII not dwell upon IT, but mean
state Il exacty and invite review aud correction Il
nm wrong. The President SAID. "No procecdloa
IL IN order here The two houses sitting
together, which requires debaeor vote here. That
rule rs he presiding officer 0i these bodies, he
was. by the by not because he President OF the
Senate. No, John Randolph early raised his
ment Of The two houses he was selected tor that
SION to act us the moderator and presiding officer oi
as President That nothing was in order
there which involved debate or vote In
the two houses together One OF the telers, Mr.
Jones, OF Tennessee the record win show and
said, IL take II the true mode IL Tor the houses
aratc ard determine separately whether this vote shall
be counted not" Mr. Mason rose Il use ms precise
wordsl.. and said ''Thc Guar SO considers" He IN
the course OF the proceeding, IN every form Of con-
vencnt words discaiincI all power. he said
u have NO power TO count this vote
refuse count H. havc power
to say II Is good vote or bad vote Ny business
TO open the ccftlteutes--I do H. The two Houses
must decide whether the vote Is constitutional and
eau he couuted not stephen A. Douglas OF III.
nois broke into a somewhat vioent--I prefer 10 say
Observation-Disclosures and by tho by no more i'm
FASHIONED lhnn that m which John j. Crittendcn cx-
pressed himself AMI II he said Of him that the
SHOWS oil seventy waters on his hoad never qucucncd
the fires OF patriotism that ragged beneath. He and
Douglass and others rose and said
protest record my protest against tho idea that the
presiding occr has ANYTHING To do even b, ruling gics-
here.
when the President of tho Senate discaimed utterly
all incptIon participate the proceed ugs IN that
regard on the motion of the Senator the houses sep
aratcd. The Senate came hero and debale took
place, and again tho presiding officer washed his
hands aud cicansed himself OF what he SAID
would have been an attempt OF usurpation. Saying
that lie nsd nothing to do with except TO open the
certificates, and then, as authorized by the two
houses to act the presiding occr of the joint
ing, but the houses. aud they alone. must determine
whether vote was good whether u was bad OF
whether II was indifferent, Inquiry which would
have been profoundly mmaterai II the law had been
as heard II announced the other day, that
whether good, bad or Indifferent, In either al
tentative equally tho vote was TO b. counted
1 come now 10 a resolution uloptcd by the two
houses "a lS65. Rebellion stood with CORY aud upted
hand striking at tho vaIs Of the Republic VIII admit
Tor the sake of argument. shall not read the rcso.
luton TO dispute that many acts might be proper II
not competent, III tho presence OF such which,
IN their absence would aave been without justification,
possibly without cxlonuation.
Mr.. HCwE--The senator admits IT.
Mr.. CoNkLSo-i say 10 my honorable freud that,
II admit IL tor the sake OF argument, affirm nothing
In regard 10 It, lncver believed that the
was violated because IL that the govern
mcnt had right 10 be. never believed IL was vio-
lated because II asserted that the nation had
power by the hoax aud claw. which II commanded 10
put down resistance to IL reduce II TO obedience.
affirm nothing about that now Here Is the resouti0R
which was passed.