The Emporia news. [volume] (Emporia, Kan.) 1859-1881, 1877-04-13
H.PREaanDRNT GRAN.r IN
TERVlEVgED.
Ae Approves of HHayes' Policy
ia SOalh CarOliA3 and
AeuanlaA8.
Hat IL Opposed 60 Civil Serv~
Ice Reform.

Hat Ii Opposed 60 Civil Serv-
ice Exeforsa.
st. Louis Globe-Demoerat, April 8.
"What do you think Of Mr.
Hayes Southern policy
II think IL is agood policy. 1
N very anxious TO see this color
me divided, so that the question
becomes more enc of Parties, and
ess of color or race.
Here Mrs. Grant Divide
the color line? what do you mean p
"Break UP the distinction of col
or, SO that q party is net composed
OF all white or eolOred people"
"Have white asd cOiOred in each
party 2" queried the lady.
The General assented to the re-
mark.
"Do you think Mr.. Hayes will
withdraw the troops from South
CaroIikA and L1bisiana?"
81 expect him TO. / should have
done SO had staid in Office. Not
take all the troops away probably,
but relieve them OF their present.
duty. For neither the Chsmber-
lain nor Packard government can
be sustained without the show OF
military authority, aud in this free
country, and SO long after quiet has
been restored everywhere else, the
exercise of military authority in
civil matters is repugnsnt to the
people, and SO when the troops are
gone, the Nichols and Hampton gov
q. rvx;Il r,iIo nd thaco u,iII no
acquiescence On the part of the peo-
pIesSf those two States.
"Win those two rules be rRcoE-
nizsd do you suppose 2"
"Not officially and formally, ]
don't believe they will; but tacltly
and accaalIy that they will be &C.
cepted by the people, I do expect"
f:What kind of q slew will the
Republicans of these States have
ander the Nichols and Hampton
regimen IL it q wise measure to
Withdraw the troops3 Your own ex
perience in this direction was lit
tie the other way, WASN'T ii 2"
"Well, yes, 1t was rather that way.
I should believe in the Hse OF troops
If there were any Outrages calling
for it, and, as you know, I believe
in using them with 9 vim at such
times but l think with e reasona-
ole degree of moderation, the Mich
oils and Hampton governments
ought to get along without any
trouble from the other side.".
"The difiulties in South Carolina
and Louisiana are about all of the
old war trouble that is lett, are they
not?"
"Yes, that's about ALL"
GLOW is 1t that Alabama and
Georgia, aud one or two other
Southern States, get along so well
compared to the rest 2"
"They are manufacturing, busy
States. Northern skilled labor and
capital are invited H.. Labor lie res.
pected, and all goes right. Make
labor respected in Louisiana and
South CarOIina, and the politics
field will soOn be cleared of troub-
L."
Speaking of labor, the question
of civil service reform seems to
have come up again-the attempt tC
pick out the best men by cOmpeti.
tive examination. You had al
that in your time. didn't your"
eyes, but that isn't civil service
reform. It's only q means to place
the appointments in the hands OF
those who wish to have them made
according to their idea of fitness
30 reform this man out and the 9TH
or man into Office"
"The principle works well across
the water. Take the English civil
service, for example"
"But there they have the system
of reward or promotion by merit,
id each employee teels himself q
part Of the governmental 6GgRniza-
ton. Here it is only our second
best men who enter the public SER
vice. A man who has the ability
to run . railroad or manufacturing
establishment isn't going to accept
a clerkshiP. Our mode of appoint
ment lie good enough. The people
elect the Senators and Representa-
tives. and they principally appoint,
Or suggest the appointment, of the
various public servants. I think,
though, each Senator or Represen-
lavive ought to hold himself res
ponsible for the conduct of his
wards in office. I think that would
be q good thing"
This was about all the converse
ton that passed on political mat
ters. The reporter ventured to in
quire If theex-PTesident,w who seemed
to be talking freely enough on the
present occasion, had ever acquired
the reputation of q man who was
careful Of his words, but before the
General could reply, Mrs. Grant
spoke up :"Why Hotl Any one who
knows the General will tell you
that be is quite the reverse; that
hekis quite free with his friends" q
remark In which the General ap-
peared to fully coincide.
Then the chat urned on social
life in the White House. Mrs.
Grant said she had spent . very
happy eight years in that dwelling.
The reporter suggested that this
was perhaps owing to . naturally
happy temperament.
"Oh. no" said the lady, sit was
owing to the pleasant surround
ings."
"Win Mrs. Hayes make q social
suCC'S@ VI ~ ~ W osutuSIcus
"W i, she dosen't have to enter
to the fullest extent into the society
life Of the capital; merely to at
tend parties, balls, receptions, ETC.,
to which she aud her husband are
invited. That's all I ever did. She
will make a very much.liked and
respected lady for the White House,
but don't imagine that she will be
the inspirer of . great deal Of soci-
ETY. party life."
"She's pious, q member Of the
Methodist church, strictly brought
up" Sid q. s. G. 'gons s1sFas.
There was rap at the door, and
the amisble utility catered with .
lady's card.
e-Ehes4reporter made ahjs, adieux
and departed.