The New York herald., 1877-03-02

objections unless there was an mpediment In the way
OF such consideration. Such impeachment had
arisen. The gentleman from Illinois Mr. Springer,
had yesterday offered objection which had been ac
companicd by certificate ana tho Vice President had
refused to open that certificate. The resolution which
had been altered simply asked that tho Senate be no-
lied that tho House would be ready to receive that
body in joint session for the purpose OF opening that
certificate.
Mr: HAnDEE, trep.l Of w.. called attention tc tho
fact that the clerk Of the court TO whom the second
certificate was delivered wns a democrat
Mr. HookER, tdem nf Miss, argued against tho
point OF Order and stated that the real question was
whether the certificates IRON tho State OF Vermont
were single dual in their character. II they were
dual the point OF order did not apply, and wss the
duty Of the President OF the Senate 10 aud sub
mit the package presented to him yesterday.
Mr. REAGAN, (dem.l OF Texas supported the point OF
order and argued against the resolution proposing
new question which had not been presented to the
joint meeting of the two houses He expressed his
great regret that where his side OF the House had
good, valid, substantial objections to tho electoral
count any other objections which could not command
the respect OF the party Of the country had been
made.
OPINION OF THK SPEAKER.
Alter some further discussion the Speaker sad-
With the highest respect for all parties concerned The
mit.ed Yesterday in she Joint session ntS
ing reading and norms.ion package which haa ~. shs
Of an su'hen,c paper ~ respect TO a. seeto
does does not n;d .hinE that IN any aspect Of ,his
% the action OF the prssdng oieer Of 'a the joint
convention Yesterday wa. lie does not think he
sense the action Of the in
ali Which this
sh. House should have possession Of this paper TO that
resolution OF the gentleman from illinois r. Caulneid) Is
In order
THE GALE RECOMMENDED
While the Speaker was delivering this opinion there
was a subsldence OF the uproar which had been in
creasing little by ttlo during the day; but
be had got through the ana confusion began 70
prevail again, and in short time the storm had In
creased to gale Tho central point OF II the Ques
tion whether before the two hour discussion CON-
menced tho President OF the senate should be called
upon to sond back the House the packages produced
yesterday by Mr. Hewitt, and submitted with Mr.
Springer's objection TO the count.
The srxAkxn did all tha. was IN his power to get the
House into tue regular channel Of business and no re-
fused TO entertain an appeal from hrs rulings His
resolutions In this respect ashed the opposing elements
into fury. Messrs. Springer OBricn, Caulied, sparks
and Poppleon were all addressing the Speaker VI the
same time and worrying HIM and the House with all
sorts Of questions and objection
nERBE TAKES 4
They were suddenly joined by Mr. BEXBn, (den.) Of
n. y, who. in the most excited manner, protested
against tho action Of the Speaker and wno in order to
mako himself still more conspicuous, jumped upon
his dcsk and from there gcstculated wildly shouting
excitement were entirely uninteligiblo the
p0rters desk. Al this time every member on the
aide his feet. The storm, however, entirely
confined TO the democratic side Of the chamber the
republicans merely participating as spectators
Tho galleries crowded to their utmost capacity
the spaces the back OF the seals
and these we'll as from the desks OF members
cune murmurs and hisscs as this " I'D was en-
acted. Then the Scrgeant-at-Arns, with his silver
mace Office appeared the disordcrly parts OF
the asscmbage, and Mr.. Beebe stepped down from ns
elevated position and addressed the speaker ia more
moderate tone from his own place. Then the spaces
behind the OF desks cleared BY degrees
the ulled, aud although there wero lesser
renewals OF II the Speaker succeeded, st about two
O'Clock, in launching the House fairly into tho
hour discussion on the Vermont object,onx
VERMONT DEBATE.
The debate was opened by Mr.. Poppieton, who soon
yielded 10 enable Mr. Hewitt. Of New York. TO relate
how had into possession Of tho package pro-
ducod by him yesterday and how he bad last seen II
In possession Of the Secretary Of the Senate, who
stated that the private property OF Mr. Ferry,
ana that ho proposed as the TREND Of Mr. Ferry 20
retain IT. After good deal OF colIoquy in regard TO
what had become Of tho paper messenger
from tho Senate into the hall and ton-
dcred the package to Mr.. Hewitt who refused TO
receive II, and thereupon announced tho fact tho
House. No immediate action taken In tho matter.
The young lad who carried the package retained N
his possession and took scat awaiting the action of
the House, and the discussion proceeded,
Mr. HExDEg, OF Vermont, explained that the case OF
Vermont only minor form oil tho In Oregon,
the exception being that Cronin had the certificate
the Governor, while Adrch, tho person claiming to
be clector in the Vermont case, had not but acted
his own notion
As the Mr. Woods motion to suspend the
rules and dispense with tue reading OF the journal
affords fair indication of the present position OF the
democratic members on the electoral count, the
Of those voting the negative given follows-