The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1877-11-09

the country, very honest among the best
people In this Commonwealth The back pay added
to the fa ure Of the bank In which Roberts was an
officer for directory nearly ruined little Roberts Ia
that region. He looks TO me IKE q man doomed TO
No, being elected 10 Congress aga,n--and he was de-
ieatcd by the Two things have named-Rooerts
saw nothing and nobody TO lay n" .a, ae,sa,
gentry who have the opportunity 70 proclaim
themselves daily In the newspapers without
opposition, no thought Il Impossible tina, he could be
defeated by natural causes even his own errors.
He assured the country thai y was myself ana my
solitary object Of hts lite has been 10 annoy me-"
RgvESoss 4 NOS HoUross
But to resume the contemporaneous conversation.
"Mr Conkling, Is there not another republican pa
per in Utica ~ present. How was that startedP
III result OF the personal Indignation OF one
gentleman" said Senator Conkling--"hr. Lawrence.
OF Utica, has enterprise and pubic spir-
II He indignan q short time ago a. some ono
OF the many surs Of LITTLE Roberts on me that ne came
printer, type and all the app1rtenances OF daily
newspaper; and u was launched within Jour days, AS
have said, OF the timc his indignation was excited
He IL making very respectable paper OF IT, TOO.
sIEEPLEss RoBERTs.
.sWhat 10 the financial condition OF kobertsf'
ssAt ono time Mr. Roberts had q fnc property IN
Utica . we'll organized Office and a cheerful paper.
But the maggot OF ambition and envy has entered his
head aud he is mortgagod down 10 the last shi-
ling. He Ia q warning to small men 10 throw away
ambition. He has accomplished nothing except the
satisfaction Of ats maligny. II dsturbs his socp Tar
more than mine.n
DEMOCRATIC aRArrrupR.
'Did you get any democratic support at home during
the last cecon-that is, did the candidates VINO were
put In nomination by your frendsf"
''There some OF the more lofty and gentle
manly democrats who made 10 a point 10 resent the
kind OF attack has been made on mo. Tho demo-
cratic party however is Just as likely 10 strike down
the man who gives them some liberation wen sney
30 take a democrat Of considerable tone and man
rely upon his indignation went down to the
TO one OF my nciehDors DR.. Chamberlain, democrat,
said 10 me, have voted for 80, hoping, SENATOR
that II would be in your interest"
GoopwiN's GRIT.
"Wnat kind Of man is the democratic Senator elect
from your districty'
"His name Is Goodwin. He went voluntarily from
our part oil country 10 join tho rebel army. ln
sound, old fashioned democratic circles there is con-
siderable respect Of grit, Of courage and OF
up and down character, even whom mistaken. have
something OF this admiration myself and therefore
entcrtain Considerable respect for Goodwin? p
"Dd Goodwin mako any address oil congratuinton
receiving the news OF his elcctionT
"he did. He made two speeches. saying that he
ministraton."
A VARIABLE DISTRICT.
''Was 1t surprise to you that nc carried the ais
ssHardly a surprise, considering the opposition
had. We should have carried the district, although II
Is variable II has gwen as high as 900 ma
jority for me- and IL has thousand or more the
other way. But the energies Of all the opposition
to me were concentrated upon that district l
believe that Tammany Hall and this lofty cotcrie
republican gentlemen In this city threw money
into my district TO carry II against me- Besides the
weather was very bad; and the country people, on
whom We rely In tight place, many OF whom have 70
rdc tweleve miles vote, had terribly pad roads to
60 over" -, p..,,
Ale voted the democratic ticket Roberts and two
other men Of the same name, one Of them butcher,
Lowery and another by the name OF Sayrc are the
rngeaders OF personal opposition to me at Utica
The Hayes interest uniformly and openly voted with
the democratic party
THE suPERrrsE AND THEIR MONEY.
'iHow could money have been raised, senator Conk-
lima m ha hroW n n
well, the highly respectable 800, OF whom have
spoken, have nothing go plentiful as money. Among
you can raise from $4,000 TO 100000 very
easily and they will not finch. Beside
tho Legislature so as 10 keep their power in this
metropolis forever There are 13 in
New York or persons IN receipt OF from sl7 900 10
a year. and tod that every one OF them was as
sessea $25 by Tammany Hall There was no place IN
Now York where they could employ this money with
more satisfaction to themselves the result than in
the district where live. Here was fusion OF the ex
tremoly rich ana the sans c~.oes ro sne mn nj
city for the common purpose OF beating the
republican candidate in the Utica district. Had
could have defeated this maneuvre; but we found II
out too late. Let me tell you something. We sent
at day light, as did the democrats Not ono OF our
tickets found ut tho polls They were all thrown
into the canal"
ssWho threw them into the canaly"
tsEither he who carried them some one who re-
ceivcd them No man docs trick like that unless he
is secured by Indemnity or the past and prosccu
ton Tor the future. Some potential person must have
gwen that assurance. We sent over into the Tenth
ward wnerc there happened 10 DO an excess OF tick
cts, and, at comparatively lato hour, supplied our
people with the ballots"
GUARDIANSHIP.
''Mr Conkling. are you satisfied that the admins.
tration Washington ANXIOUS for your defeat 7"
"From the time Hayes came into Office and ap-
pointed a democratic Cabinet,n said Mr. Conkiing,
1.-THE principal labor OF ltte Evarts and the has
been to Withdraw the republican support from me-"
alas Evaris made any expression on that head ="
ssHe told q gentleman some time ago that the reform
movements OF the administration, as far as New York
concerned, wore to break up Craftsmanship
suppose that craftsmanship was declaration OF cen.
sure upon myself. y
..But has the ADMINISTRATION directed any official
against you IN this last clccttonY
Eyes. They made the removals OF the principal
Office nolders In New York, whom match them to
pcac, much less excel week before This State cleo
ton came of. Was that chivarIc behavior toward
republican seeking extricate this State IRON the
democratic admin strationy And +" said Mr.. Con king,
with rising fervor, ri We had received the Hayes
votes In the State OF New York or even fair portion
OF them State would have been republican to-day,
restored 10 It's proper place In influence and charac
tcr.n
THE CIVIL SERVICE ORDER.
s'Do you think that the celebrated order, directing
oice-holders 10 abstain from all political action
also intended TO operate against Individual public
menr
"Undoubtedly that celebrated reforrnatory order
factional in It's intent made IN the interest of
envious and presuming little men. Sherman goes
Ono and makes speeches In defiance OF II; McCrary
goes 10 Iowa and manages a convention despite the
order and finally Dcvens--who rs pretty good sort
Of u fellow or has been IN The past-writes to Massa-
chusetts II think Senator Conkiirg said to Collector
Simmons says that the order meant itself 10 DO
disobeyed, and that tho way to obey It was to vo-
late IT,"
MASSACHUSETTS, VICTORY.
'What Is your opinion OF The Massachusetts, clec-
ton, which the Baycs men are claiming as victory
for the poicyf'
"Tnat election shows only how we'll real party mon
behave. The men, who dislike the policy and could
no honesty in the Presiaenps position on the
Southern question nevertheless walked to the polls
and cast their ballots Tor the republican candidates
The Hayes also voJcd IN Massachusetts,. But In
this State OF New York l charge that the Hayes ele-
mcnt was not only indifferent to tho election bot
voted tho democratic ticket by hosts Tho State Of
New York Is democratic to-day by tho act OF tho sup
portcrs Of the President"
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SHOULD LvK
"ML. Conkhng is there any good reason Tor dsband-
ing the republican party at this time?'
All there boon any time within the past ten years
when the party worth preserving, in the interest
oil taxpayers particularly, IL is now Tho democratic
party has three elements in H. First tbcrc is the
South arrogant advancing, driven on ny the southern
constituents who have lost everything. They were
compelled to rcpudiate the Confederate dcoL and
n strike ou The pensIous sOldery. Why