The New York herald., 1876-12-13
HOW CONFIDENCE WAS ENJOINED.
What the President Said About the
South Carolina House.
HOW THE PRIVATE OPINION" WAS EXPRESSED
Nothing in Regard 10 the Party The Prcsk
dent Represents

WASHINGTON Dco IL. 1870
Tho following Is furnished by Hon Abram $. Hewitt
addressed to tho Washington agent OF the Associated
Press
In yesterdays papers lpd despatch from you
rccltng conversation with President Grant 10 rcer
tho unfortunate state OF affairs IN South Caro-
Ina and my interview with him In reference thereto
SO far South Carolina WAS concerned the President
cnjoned confidence, but expressly stated that was
at liberty to communicate his views TO tho pub
lie. lie did enjoin confidence In regard 10
what he SAID OF Louisiana affairs, and that confidence
have respected. although. as have already stated
TO him, believe the publication OF his statements
would do much TO iranquillze the public mind
WHAT PRESIDENT STATED.
In regard to South Carolina the President stated
that IN his Judgment, not less than sIxy.three mem.
bers having certificates from tho Secretary Of State,
eligible to organize the House and transact
business As this Wow accorded with my own and 40
no confidence was enjoned. tolcgraphed II III the
following language
A. c. HASKELL, Chairman, Charleston, $. z. =
able TO say that neither House will bc recog-
by the President until 1t gets slxtythroc mem-
Board. ABRAM ). HEWITT.
Ny object in sending this despatch was that
thought would tend allay the excitement In South
Carolina and prevent collision between the people
and tho troops, Of which wc werc very apprehensye
On tho 9th Of December received reply, which in.
duccd mo to send tho following telegram to the Pres.
DENT
rELEGRAxs TO THE PRESIDENT.
have received reliable telegram from Columbia
stating that the sixty third member holding certin
cate from the Secretary State has been into
tho House presided over by speaker Wallace, winch Is
thereby organized in accordance with tho requiro-
mcnts OF tho law as stated by you
To THE PRxslDRxr.-
have just received later despatch saying that the
Supreme Court OF South Carolina has pronounced its
judgment and declared the House presided over by w.
II Wallace 10 be tho legally constituted House Of Rep
rcsentaivcs and that Mackey Is private person. not
Speaker or in any respect an officer OF tho legislative
BODY.
THE INTERVIEW.
On the evening OF the same day Senator Randolph
suggested that he and should call upon the President
and ask him whether, under she circumstances, he
could not his way clear order the withdrawal ol
tho United States troops from South Carona and 70.
cognze the House Of Representatives constituted
with sixty three members. The President granted N
an interview, which began by my saying that had
him kilograms from tho House in reference 10
South Carolina affairs The President at oncctrsplied
that he lad thom, and that very late the
preceding evening ho had received . telegram from
| Columbia saying that bad informed partios
,hsre that tho President would recognize
tho legal House that body which should have sixty.
throe members uish csstsates fsssats secsstary oG
| 6kata The President replied that he had not made
any such statement that he did not believe had saN
he had done So ana that, at rate u was not true
| IrepIied that had not any telegram TO thai
but had sent one nearly rs could recollect
| us iollows:-
am abo TO say that tho President will not rccog.
any House that does not contain sxty-three menr
bers with original certificates rom sno Returning
| Board
| Tho President replied -"That is correct did say
so that my private opinion but did not say that
hat had lhroo NAM
| bers"
replied sThati is true, but think II Is implied, and
wo have come to ask you 20 do so''
The President replied that, as at present advised he
decline to recognize tho Housc containing sixty
three members, and he did not know that he would
recognize the other House; that Chamberlain was
Governor until some was regularly inaugurated
in his place, aud that no should sustain him.
rmE VIOLATION CONFIDENCE.
The President did not say that had violated hiG
confidence In any particular he said II would have
been u violation or his confidence n had sent the
telegram reported to him from Columbia tho sending
of which again denied then reminded the Prcsi-
dent that hc had means Of testing the accuracy Of my
rccolectons OF his statements because immediately
otter the interview Sunday had dictated the sub
stance and furnished him with copy
which requested him 10 return 10 me- with any cor.
rectons he might choose TO make, either 10 be pub.
shcd IL he would consent, or to be retained for bis
future justification in case, after tho 4th OF narch
next hts intentions should bc called In question. HI
has returned to mo tho copy 80 furnished, not
mado any corrections thorein TO my knowledge
ssTHx I REPRESENT"
Tho President said nothing TO mo In regard to my
using any hts statements the purpose Of defeat
ing the party which he, tho President, represented
have regarded the President OF tho United States
representing any party, and shall regret 10 see
the President any other position than that Of the
honored head OF the people Of these Untsd Statsab
| without regard TO party ABRA4 8. HEWITT.
WASHINGTON, ID. G., Dec. IL, 1915