The Morning herald., 1876-02-18
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By A~s'''"" CHICAGO, H., Feb. II.
r,. TINA. this morning publishes what
.uer,. ~, to be full text Of General GRAMS
,sro ssnnstoin in the Babcock case IN 'u''
stance It is as follows: v.,,
"1Tst NV ,,s Known Babceck since the Vicks-
,,rs ~, "a AN Daigu in 1868. Since 1868 that
04's ,sman has acted as his Private secre-
,srs sud his relations to him were conhdsn,
,,s, ,.' He had always found him fa'thral
"' snabouorable; he was intimately acquainted
With viii e W Ford of st.. Louis, who acted as
bis business agent in that city wnen ne
died; John A. Joyce applied for COLLECTOR
ship in telegram to Babcock, but no &C.
,,dsd to let Ferd's bondsman nom'na'e
hi, successor, and Constantine Magu're
vss named. Gen. Babcock did not recom N
commend this appointment or nave any
knowledge of Mcguire; he did not re'nsm-
Der Babcock ever sought to influence MS
action in regard to changes made or pro-
uOsed to be made against Joyce or McDon-
ad nor had not attempted to announce MS
action in regard to the whisky prosecutions
IN St. Louis, he remembered riding WIN
Mcdonald in Washington In 1874, but hao
no conversation with him relating to of1c'aI
business. General Babcock did not at tha'
time iptercede with him to prevent any IN
yestigation. The order for the transfer OF
supervisors was made with . view to up'
sarthing frauds. He insisted on the revoca'
,ion of that order until assured by supervisor
Tuition that distillers had all had fair warn
ing to put their houses in order ana I'M
change of Supervisors would be useless a
that time. Babcock never sought to innu
eDce him in his action in the matter, ans
so far as he could recollsct had never spoRel
to him abont it, neither had Babcock ~
tempted to reyent'a full investigation ot h'
alleged communication with the whisKe
ring. The Military Court was called os
cause At the time there was o.
other means O; vindicating Babcock tn
Grand Jury being on point Of adjournmsr
finally. He had always had great conn
dence in B aud had not changed his min
in consequence of any developement
whisky business or anything else. o
cross examination by Mr.. Eaton 9ra1
denied that Babcock told him that bonds TO
political purposes were heiny improperl
used; had confidence In Ford, who though
at first of opposing but finally acquiesced
the appointment Of Mcdonald Joyce wa
not urged by Bacock ss Fosd's successor
hswas appointed on the recommsndatio
ofthe Commissioner the dispatches ha
all been explained to him by Babcock tn
eypher telegrams were, within bis know
edge, but be did not know what tho tern
meant as bis Secretary carried the cyph'
and always wrote his dispatches for him
the revocation of the ordor transferring s.
pervisors were largely influenced by supe
vscrs, Senators and Congressman who'
names could be given, If he thought prope
who had never seen the cypher dispatch
knsw that Babcock was in correspondent
with Joyce, and several of the letters co
'atning extracts clipped from various Pape
which Joyce claims to have written.
In conclusion the President declares u
no effort has been made to prevent the tr'
o. Gen. Babcock and the explanation
dispatches by that gentlemen was Of such
character as to clear up all grounds OF "
plcion Nearly every question througho
was objected to by the Attorneys as MN
terial
The weather To-Day.
Sor Aiddls States and New England rts'
oaronster, North,oest to Southscsst pS'se
Aghs!y warmer and generally clear ''sas'
V'H prsvan except loscer tempsratwrs IN