The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-08-03
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ncld-,he city Of my cholcs-I received
the telegram Of the committee enllins
arrived IN this Guy and called at the Treasury De-
partment, where saw Messrs Morrill, and Pratt
said 10 them that should want 10 read the official
records, which had caused to be made and preserved,
iouching my Investigations into the whiskey frauds,
Tor the purpose of refreshing my recollection before
testihed; ! was told by MI Morrill, and Mr.
Pratt to call on Mr.. Robinson; after seeing Ar.
Morrill, called on Dir Robinson and sand TO HIM that
had the permission of the Secretary OF the Treasury
10 examine the records which | had made IN conneo-
ton with the whlskey frauds and such other papers as
might be necessary to refresh my recollection, to
which Mr. Robinson readily assenied; then said 10
him that the record itself in the office OF the
Commissioner OF Internal Revenue, broken up and d.
vided out To De copied could not see t. presumed,
on that day. aud that meanwhile, would be glad II he
would direct Carroll, the janior, to bring
over my boxes containing my private memoranda,
records and property the Riggs House; TO this
Robinson SAID, ''Yes, yes that nc would send tho
he heard what passed between Robinson and myself
cannot tell; in the morning Mr. Robinson asked me II
knew where
THE BARNARD LETTER
containing the Presidents Endorsement was he said
It was missing. answered mo, ~ but TO ask Winslow
II Winslow did know where 1t was did not, as no
packed the boxes and II 1t my possession 1t was
there and through mistake but tnat would examine
the boxes carefully az soon as they we're sent over
me and return II II found. The same morning saw
Winsow and asked him If he knew where the letter
He said he did not, that he willing TO swear u
in the boxes and that he thought went to the
Secretary's office Dixon also questioned IN reg ard
TO and said that he did remember to have seen 1t
who ought 10 know, assured that the letter Was
not in the boxes-that entirely confident OF
that. Mr. Robinson did not send the boxes and papers
to my hotel, as he had promised waited until Two
O'Clock, ut which time Mr. Webster k!mes, tho chief
clerk, came over. asked Zines where my boxes
and why they were not sent over
Said he, ''That is Whit l called to soc
you about Robinson feels little embarrassed
just now, in view OF the present excited and named
condition of alirs in the Treasury Department grow
Ing OF Yaryans testimony, and says that, as the
boxes could only 90 out of the Treasury on
ria .Tdn hp m ha IN : n
therefore embarrassed and he said that II the matter
were permitted to run along for Jour or five days IL
would probably be all right, and It would save them all
did not want to give Robinson, OF all men,
any embarrassment, but that | thought he
would nc very much more embarrassed under
the circumstances by refusing TO give me my property
than by giving it Mr. Elmes also remarked that there
old coat. pair OF rubber shoes aud one or Two
other articles OF wearing apparel IN the Solicitors
oitrc which might also be sent TO mo, whercupon
said 10 him that Robinson might with just as much
proprlety my old shoes and coat as my boxes.
also requested Zines 10 say 10 Robinson that |
thought had right under the instances under
winch the boxes We're LETT his possession TO raise
question to their contents especially so after
the statements ofWinslow and Dixon, and that hoped
he would comply witt his promise made IN the morn
Ing to send the boxes over.
Later on wrote u to Robinson, in which said
10 him that desired TO repeat what had already said
TO Zines; that he had right to retain the
boxes containing my private papers aud records than
he had TO retain old shoes or coat; that my nstrnc
tions to Wnslow were explicit with reference to pack
ing nem and thai II my instructions had been followed
aud was compelled TO believe they had been the boxes
contained nothing bat what was clearly and fairly my
own l said to him:-'lt you doubt my word send for
Winslow and Dixon, the young men who packed
you through send what is LETT"
That was the situation Friday night. Tina! night
taken quite i'll and remained under the treatment
Of Dr. Verde until Monday morning. on Monday
| went over to the Solicitors Office. They had
gathered together the records OF the whskcy raid from
the Internal Revenue Bureau and spent the day in
reading II over At the close OF the day said 10 Rob
inson, send for Carroll and let us open these
Tor Carroll but did not find him. / said,
Send Tor Dixon" He did send for Dixon and did not
nma HIM sad then us 60 ana ana get the d IIT h
II WAS late in the day. and let 1t go ill morning"
said to bim:-"Nu, now while am here with you,
Robinson Let Us make this examination ourselves "
ielt as though at the moment an nGignny was
sought 10 be put upon me in refusing 10 deliver up my
private property; and also in the suggestion which
had been made that they should be examine at
all before they delivered into my possession.
said 10 Robinson that he did not make the examin.
alton then wanted It distinctly understood that no
man, with my consent, should 60 through those pa
pcrs until they were delivered 10 me, and, with
That understanding, We parted On Tuesday morning
called upon the President OF the United States and
after stating the substantially as have stated it
TO the committee. asked tho President to be good
enough TO give me an order on the Secretary OF the
Treasury for the boxes. To this he replied that he
thought they ought to be examined before they went out
OF the Treasury Department. He SAID that Mr.. Nor
nil would designate some one man and the solicitor of
the Treasury another and that ne saw no objection to
my beng present a, the examination. To this replied
that could not give my assent told the President
That thought II was putting mo in tho attitude of
being pectcd party; that alter careful Inquiry
vas assured by both the young men who had TO do
with packing the boxes that they contained
noshins OF pubic character Of which
copies were not left on Gle, and
~ to the Barnard letter said TO him that their
Ance was dcute that it was not IN the boxes but that
II IL was there he might rely upon my promptly re-
turning 1t as could make the proper cxamna-
hon to ascertain If 1t was contained IN the boxes quito
long conversation ued between the President and
myself, in which endeavored to satisfy hm that my
record both personal and official was OF character
Mat entitled mo to the courtesy OF being
treated an honorable man; l APP
peacd to the President the strongest
terms could employ to deliver the boxes 10 me
after such he and The Secretary of the
Treasury. without Just warrant under the circum-
stances my Judgment seemed to think necessary TO
subject them TO; he told me that he would see the
Secretary OF the Treasury. and after had asked him
again specifically for an order ON the Secretary and
hal been refused our interviews closed on my return
TO my room wrote the President a note IN which
TIE PRESIDENT.
nv praser Genera ames H. wilson a~e Sy periss ioa
examine my boxes now In the Office Of the solicitor OF
them be delivered to Tor the examination winch
can have them.
l added postscript, viz. -;
recall your attention the fact that the boxes
ss not .sa no
sne aud also the fact that had the treasury
OF the Dung who had packed them:
To that note received this answer
ANSWER or rnE PRESIDENT.
EXECUTIVE MANSION, WASHINGTON.
DEAR SR-Thc President directs to that he
objection TO General Wilson being present the
amin ton Of the papers referred your Just
mens should be the new solicitor or some one b
c. G. SNIFFlS, secretary.
Major BLrroEp WILSON, care OF se,ing solicitor of the
Treasury. Present
This note received In the Treasury Department.
! immediately went up to the Secretary. aner
waiting some time, beng quite i'll obtained audi
ence showed HIM the note OF tue Pres Ident me,
and asked him II he bad seen II. He SAID he had !
asked him II he had my letter the President,
In which had offered submit the papers to the ex-
animation OF his private secretary ana General wilson.
Ne SAID he bad. Then SAID -
s'Mr. Secretary you have the whole case wish 10
say you that cannot accept tie sugI cson OF the
President OF the United States lie asked. why ana
said for the that the boxes pac ked accord
with my instructions according ,o the
nation OBTAIN contained rolh;ng out my private
books and papers OF ihis have tae assurance OF
both the young men engaged IN packu.. am