The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-04-17
@ A NJ E r o N.
An Interview with the English
Explorer.
RUMoRs OF STANLEY.

LIVERPOOL, April g. 1876.
The busy city OF Liverpool seemed the quietest Of
country hamlets yesterday morning. twas Sunday,
and the day is absolutely OF in England. But
the strictly drawn lines OF clerical proprcty aid not
prevent the great commercial city from docking to the
landing stage yesterday afternoon to welcome home
Lieutenant Cameron the latest among tho explorers
OF Central Africa He returned after absence Of
more than three years, during which be has crossed
tina. greatest OF all peninsulas The object OF his
original commission is well known that II need only
be referred to. He was engaged BY tho Royal Geo.
graphical Society carry relief to DR.. Livingstone,
ard accomplished his arduous duty only TO And the
man dead whom he had gone to succor. He sent the
body OF the great missionary back England then
started his journey Of discovery, which ended only
In November last.
OF the reception OF Lieutenant Cameron yesterday
and the hearty welcome which given him by
the Mayor the cable has already informed you
After these impressive ceremonies were ended he
drove to the house Of his No. Sandon
race, where by previous appointments called upon
him last evening.
MEETING THE xxPLoRgR.
/ sent in my card and cordially received by
Lieutenant Cameron in person. He In tho best OF
humor and display slightest aversion to an
interview. After conrratulaiipg HIM upon his sale
return, which he warmly acknowledged, l asked for
details regarding his march from Tanganyika
the West Coast
s'My nrst duty do not need to tell you,'' the
Lieutenant began lis to the Royal Geographical So
ccty, which equipped and sent me out; but shall DO
glad give you any information regarding my journey
which shall anticipate the report to make to
that body am only sorry that not able to OBJ
tain some authentic
NEWS FROM MR.. STANLEY,
for had should not icc justified in withholding It
from the NEW YORK HERALD
syou left Zanzibar Nav 90 1878. and Ujiji Tan
ganyka about year later, we informed. How
did you proceed from that points" ! asked.
''As You doubtless the original object OF
the expedition TO relieve Dr. Livngstone but when
the corpse Of the good old gentleman there
nothing left in that direction for do His remains
were forwarded to England, and then determined to
follow up the river Lualaba TO its mouth and forever
settle the question regarding its
CONGO.
With this design went to Nynngwe, the Lower
Luaaba or il is known that particular point tho
Ugarowwa. This village Is on the Manyucma sidc OF
the river, and is we'll known in African exploration
II want TO ask question about the Tanganyika
before wo finally leave it. Did you not make an
ploration of its west oastg"
II travcrscd the country below the southern end Of
the lake. and again, after my return to Uji in tho
spring OF 1874, crossed TO Ruanda-' -
"That is the point which had especial reference.
Did you, has been reported ind an outlet to the
great lake OF Burton and Spcke?'
THE LUALABA PRoBLEM
"Thcrc is stream flowing out Of Tanganyika toward
Che Atlantic wide, steady and rapid current
This important river is called by the the Luvu
ba or Lukuga. l secured boat Ruanda and pushed
down this stream, hoping, as confidently believe TO
Ibis hour, that the would lead mo into the Luz
Laba and finally INTO the Congo But al the end OF
lev miles encountered nm nsurmountable barrier or
rushcs and grass under nch tho river disappeared
for long distance We observed great pieces timber
carried down BY the stream and sucked under tho float
ing sod. The current running that point fully
knots about eleven miles per hour. Rcgrctiully
| was compelled TO return to tho great lake; but the
head OF the tribe encountered at the beginning
the stream assured that the stream could be fol
lowed by a few difficult portages to the Lunaba~"
DIFFICULTIES or EXPLORATION
Returning to Nyangwe, then. you made your final
start %
"Yes. There l encountered the great dsappoiut-
mont Of my trip found 1t impossible obtain boats
Tor money by begging No materials obtainaple
wherewith TO build them. Tho natives would rather
part with their wives and children than thor boats
and whereas might bought half families
Tor few pounds could get boat for 100 guineas
Thence went with Of Portuguese traders
Kilembn. This route lay toward the south two de-
erecs or four to six south lattadc II is sit.
uated in the middle OF Urua able to settle ior-
ever before leaving Nyaugwc that tho
LUALApA FEEDER NILE.
The river that point only 14oo feet above the
sea level This ended tho mystery Of the Lualsba as
far as its northern cutct knew then It's mouth
or that OF tho stream which debouched was
be found somewhere along the Atlantic coast would
have given the wealth Of Monte Cristo. had pos
scssed it, for tho means solving simple problem
II Mr. Stanley only his way from the Albert
Niyanza to Nyangwe, and eau
LAUNCH THE LADY ALICE
upon the Lualaba at that point he land her In tho
ocean within three months or that as sure as
that sit here He eau fully verify the great dream
ofmy life, which nearly within my grasp that
feel kecniy the impossbility 10 OF verifying It,"
BETWEEN KiLExBA AND Tux COAST
"The country between Kilcmba and Tho coast was
mostly uncxpIorcd."
..rhc route which followed mostly new, al
though crossed the line ofLvinssione. aud, the
Atlantic coast, OF Magyars trip in 1850"
How long did you remain at KiIemba."
al made my home with an Arab and did not get
away on my anal tramp until June, 1875 l then de-
tcrmined to follow the line OF tho watershed between
the Zambcsi and the Congo. THIS plan carried out
until tho day in last November when set foot Ben
galcc."
.sI'case give the route in stages as you made it,
"From Kilemba struck to tho westward, over
caravan trail till reached largo stream said TO be
the I.omanl, along whose eastern bank had before
travelled on my way from Nyangwc.
AMONG THE SATrvrs
Tho towns were very close together recurring every
nvc or ten miles and were, in instances, quite
large The natives appeared to be grcgarious in their
Instincts and to desire mach rather herd together in