The New York herald., 1876-09-03
POLITICS At SARATOGA.
The Two State Conventions and
Their Results.
BREAKING THE MACHINES.
What Is Thought Of Horatio Sey-
mour's Position.
TAMMANY AND ANTI-TAMMANY.
TAMMANY AND ANTI-TAMMANY
The Peculiar Democratic Deal in
New York City.
SOLEMN CONFERENCE or THE 1.-TWO JOHNS"
Proposed Organization Of New Peoples
Party in the Metropolis,


The two conventions just held here have settled the
important question to the nominees Had Governor
Seymour promptly accepted the honor iorcbIy
thrust upon HIM by the democrats II would be a simple
matter TO speculate to tho chances both SIDES
But the is changed, ana the headless
democracy will have extremely hard road to travel
in order 10 carry this State. Tho republicans, with
Mr. Morgan leader, present Il compact and united
front 10 the enemy. In tho event OF Mr. Scymour's
final acceptance the deception pracsed upon tho Con-
vcntion by its managers will have a strong tendency
to abate the enthusiasm which tho candidacy Of tho
Decr1cld statesman might otherwise bring forth.
MACHINE BREAKING.
little retrospective view of both conventions cx
hibts the agreeable pictures 'machine brcaking on
tho part Of the clements comprising those assem-
blages The republican machine intended nominate
A. B. Cornell, chairman OF the State Committee. Tho
cards stocked ut syracuse last March for that
purpose There tho friends OF Senator Conking rallied
around him and sent an almost unanimous delegation
to Cincinnati In his interests Mr. A. b. Cornell was
the head and front of this fight against tho Union
Loaguo Club and tho Of 'gentcel brccdineu
who undertook crush Conkling Of the in tho
strife for tho Presidency. There and then
solved by the trusty machine heucnunts that Cornell
should DO rewarded with tho Govcrnorshp. But the
veteran Thuriow Weed, with u solid pha-
that this machine should be broken in the in
forests of tho party, and 1t broken. Another ma
chine however, has been set up In It's place healed by
Morgan and fortified by tho Custom House and Post
Office rings who turned over to the coming regime Is
1t not possible that tho voter might smash this
chine tho ballot box If tho democrats only in
duce Governor Scy mour tho head Of their
State t!ckctY
1t is needless disguise the fact the other hand
that democratic machine had been carefully oiled
for the purpose Of nominating William Dorshemcr.
Tho men who run the machine on that sido of tho
house came up from Albany, and the namo Of "Dors-
hoimcr went to the gaping delegates who stood In
groups around tho United States Hotel. or course,
Senator Herman did not come out of his room and
make speech In advocacy OF that genilcman Colonel
William I. peton, nephew OF Governor Tldon, did not
haranguc the crowd on the samo side; Daniel Magone
Jr., and +. X. Apgar chairman ana secretary OF the
State Committee did not below Enthusiastically for the
Buffalo statesm H. but the mysterious whisper went
along the line that Dorshcmer was tho slated
Individual Immediately there howl OF dissas-
faction The bitter pill could not be swallowed. and the
leaders control of the Convention There was an
other smash up of tho machine. Thcn tho adherents
Of ROBINSON Potter Groen Marble, Clinton and others
began to pluck up courage. They hung around tho
aanks OF tho delegations as IN army OF sk,rmshers
ready to swoop down upon the enemy whenever a
weak spot discovered. leading politician who
know much Of the inside workings OF tho Convention
assured to-day that II ballot had boon taken Tor
Governor Wednesday night Clarkson n. Potter
would have received the nomination. But tho Con-
veution wanted seymour and would have Dors-
hemcr at any price. Cries OF "Givc US
democrat carried away the last hope for
tho ponderous Lieutenant Governor, and the
machine went down in uproar Tor
the second time this month These two experiences
should teach politicians that In order to Keep their
nachi N ntyst and
near possible the current OF public option The
day forcing down tho throats Of intelligent State
Convention the name of weak candidate is pissed
Public canor viii now break down cnoctunlly any
close corporation of machine workers. who thus under
take thwart the will OF tho So 10 has lust
been proved at Saratoga.
TAMMANY AND ANrI-rAMxAyY.
The settlement OF tho controversy between Tam
many aud anti rammany rs lar ns the State Convcn-
ton concerned with Tar toward unpg the forces
at the ballot box in November On combination local
ticket This the next important political
which will occupy the attention OF our New YORK
city statesmen for the next month Bargain ana sale,
wircpulling and combination will be tie order the
hour Ali the leading politicians will have taken their
departure tor home by next Monday Ex-SncrIT
rien nd fla,ily lett Tor New York yesterday Sem
utor John Morrissey will follow next week Mr. John
Kelly has remained over since the Convention to take
few more glasses Of mineral water. so as TO prepare
his constitution Tor the pending local contests Major
Quincy, Aldermen Tuomey and Purroy. John Hayes,
Jerome Buck, f.. d. Gale and other gentlemen who scok
''sesvc the people Tor the peoples good have
cused around the hotels since tho adjournment of tho
Convention. The evidences all around us OF I'M
on the Mayoraity, Shrovaity County Clcrkship Cor
oners and other Offices Ia the city county Of New
York The local states are therefore, alive 10 the
situation and watch the political chess board with
SHAKING HANDS OVER THE HLooDY cmAss
An interesting episode OF the OF good feeling
which exists among distinguished New York poli-
ticans has Just been related TO me For nearly two
hours the Hon John Kelly and the Hon. John Nor
rlsscy were cosctcd together IN private OF
Grand Union Hotel The last named John
compancd by his Secretary OF State bosom busi.
p.ss frfou he meet
ing OF tho powerful statesmen Is described most
cordial An eyewitness who looked through the key
hole tells affecting IN tho extreme. Tears
the eyes OF the two redoubabie champions OF
the peoples rights The man who said at Utica last
April that ''rammany Hail aint nothing but build
ing' clnspod hands with tho man who vociicr-
atod the samo place that In the organization
of Tammany he meant to givc the people oi New
York city coadju,or OF which they night be proud
Boln folded IN fond embrace. steve"
Dunne stood on side and his face with a
bandanna nkerchicL Tho meeting OF Louis Napo-
leon aud King William after tho battle CT Sedan
nothing comparison with this distinguished confer
en,c 'riin " Campbell fairly wcpt with Joy when he
heard OF the happy denoaemenL Ex-ShcriT O'Bricn
Senator Frank Bixby. Emanuel B. Hart and other
Tammany leaders looked with q dis satisfied air.
They ud not think it exactly the thing tina, they
should bc dcbarred from important a con terence.
But the Two Johns' ran the machine before IN New
York city. aud why not again what you going
to do about ~" tho mo,to of rwocd IL Is likely
to be again emblazoncd on the banner OF tho
days, however, will determine tho question
as 10 the nature and significance OF this
lAtcst cOalitiOn OI pOiticdl Mr Nelly has
hbitcd comincndaUlc disposition In yielding grace
iuiy tho necessities Of the hour lie did not stand
in way Of a union OF forces before the Convep
ton He probably has the OF his ways, and
viii come Lack like the irodigal son, 10 his FIRST love-
the man OF the powerful arm and mind, Senator John
Morrssey There universal congratuiat,on amongtbc
'boys" over SO happy prospect II Is rumorcd that
. celebrated French artist has been engaged place
canvas faitniul representation OF tbs famous
meeting Kelly aud Morrsscy, OF course Will he the
tral ngurcs with 'Sicvc' Dunno In the lack ground
and '.rim.n Campbell, Ed Gale, General Spinoa
and other TammaDy statesmen hovcr,ng round tho
outskirts like angelic vIsitants
WHAT THE COMBINATION MyAya
or course the New York statesmen huttcr OF
excitement TO their exact chances Tor place and
patronage In view OF the deal. fwo-hfhs repre-
scntati0n has been gwen the anti -1ammany party
upon the floor Of the Convention. !, IL Understood
here that the concession VIII be basis which to
parcel tue different Offices be tue eth
OF NnvrmIer next Tho man Offices arc a. lollows:-