, 1876-05-13

MONEYS HEEElVED.
. .R.-No", did you eAehirr receive regularly
Q.-And da you deposit it !. A.-Yes, sir; a1,
money was deposited the next morning
Q.-,Did yon have Your cs.s-bnoE. A.-1ne
easn books are all in The vauEts, and the receipts
are in the safe.
never kept~ bank'boo!<
Q;.p'd 3on depesis money without any hank
Treasurer, ard took the T1easurer's rrceiot fr it.
o.@-fqn neTer kept any hank account outside
Q.-Did Str: yon Hollen keep any bank account
Al think he did, sir; think hr doue SONG au@-
ness with the German National Bank. Tho extent
Of that don't know:
about ME. E"n Hol!cn-s present whtreabnuts,-
where be is. A--Wcll, can hardly tell you from
my certain knowledge. but think he IL
DEFAULTEE TO 4 LARGE As1prSr
! cannot tell You certainly what the utnoant t.
TIE reason IL this: that there is always la.gc
amount Of checks il hts hands, often checks 1t
S;opeFfX entered w1il maks An expanati1n u
to the amount q: S15, tk0 per nsnnsh- lie would
pay an installment Of couple os thousand donrs
at1 time. I understood this morning when went
Q.-lou went there: 4. ~ went to Potter Palm
er>s this morning when heard of this matter. to
Palmer account and Mr. Hemr~tead told me there
as r. Saanss 9f co., bns e. ifa !. Ssht IT, 70
at tcrting c1sck+-t',mctimes S50. oOO. SD. U0o.
$lUO zoo at chec:*-t,a;L in advance. sorc-
tiae- he Woa'd make arrangements with parties to
hold thsfc Checks for month ar two to accn:nclo-
date th.u,, eEd, IL the mcmorandnH stsat slowcd
yoa VIII show. he got ehccs; and think be has
account Vi them. think that memorandum will
show.
Q:-pia be hare chcck from Nr. Palmer tor
the full au,uu1t: A.-Tea. sir.
.R:-What Do 5on mean about balance Of
81. 600. A.-Ihosc checks ncrs paid In INSTALL
mtnts.
.Q.-The checks were paid in insta1'ments: A.
fcs, sir; he would give 81 600 aou. aad then S.
COO and indorse II On the check a. tar Is my
Hempstcad told me this morning shout S.. 600.
Mr.. Tuthi]l-ls it the custom Of the olUce to kecp
. receipt book for those receipts, A.-No. sir:
4.-You had nothing then. when the receipt w2a
given. to show on the reccpt-book itself that re-
eeipt had been giSen' A~-Whas feeeipt-book do
q--When yon gave receipt 10. taxes you tnol
receipt gu. of the book suppose: You had .
book for that: A---No, Sit; We didn't have : book
Q-Wss there no stub On thoss receip51 A.
Nc, sir.
EVIDENCE or RECEIPTS
O. Then yoa had no evidence III the office to
show that receipt Ind been given: A.-Oh, Jes.
Q---what was the evidence' A--The evidence
was this memorandum Of cash that spoke of, and
erty paid on the warrant, and the day OF the pay
ment, aud the receipt, With the money, IS passed
into 1 the That receipt II eSpea into
etilcs: That I and the warrant shows that the taz
passed to tie ee1f 4i Gfst md COP copS On tie 6ook
tearing out those receipts and carrying them out
the street? A.-There wac nothing.
Q>-Who had charge Of those blank receipts! A.
They are generally under the supervision Of the
Q--General1y. Wasn't there ,or,e specific clerk
there OF person who had charge OF those receipts
some particular person Who had that duty? Alt
should he the ehis1 duty but the hookkeeper
-Q.-Fhe hookkeeper always attended to lit A.
Yes, sir.
Q.-Tbere wss nothing to prevent any one from
s.: s2ns there aud getting those 1s:<''''' Mo-
,,Q+---Do yoa know whether it Vas tho custom Of
Mf. Won Ho}len to
TAKE BLANK RECEIPTS AROUND WITa a1A3
Al don't lnow that lie ever did, sir, exccp!
this that very often he went to the banks and
tried to settle up the, banks' taxes and he would
amonnt Of taxee he might take blank. for the pur-
pose Of giving receipt II he would collect the
money:
Q.-Then he might have given receipt. IN tha.
way, and you would hare no evidence Of It At thu
s Tie Sa comptfoi1e4GWste TIC those receipt. for tho
&c signed sometimes, and signed his name, and
Mr. Tuthi'rfShat was the usual course Of husi--
ness, who usually signed the receipts: Al
3.~signea bis name. Axes, sir. II WI.
not there he might sign. II be was out to dinner
I might sign, or be would sign without ny knowl-
edge sometimes ana ye me me- t sneek In;
Office there OF which there was no copies kept.
A.-&ot unless they were what was givcn BY Iii.
HOn Hollen himself without my knowledge.
Q--fou always took
COPIES OF RECEIPTS
A--1es, sir; always what he give me-
Q:-lt vas the regular course OF business to Keep
Q,--A blank copy Of the receipt given to the tag
payer: p A:-Ies, zig. 1t could hardly BE- called !
property: and the kind Of Tux.
Q,-Nhat the taxes were for,--rea1 OF personal?
A4-fes, slf> what they were for.
The Comptroller- when you first
SUSPECTED THAT MR. vOE H0I4LEa WAS APPRo-
PKlAT1EG MONEY? .
A.--Well suspected = little before I became
ery here. / thonght it dN not anoant to much.
could hardly tell; was not sure Of it. I thought
way, and some time after BECAME cashier spoke
to him about this. aud he told me, 1T 10 al
right" he wo.1d pay 1t in: at is all right"
hin sg a1ees IL and n ,{Reh sRea
my b1u business, he would fix That all right
could not ten for certain whether lle had any
money or whether he had thoee checks.
could hardly tell yon, Just now, *ir coud hard
ly tell you Tou mean when took the position ss
Q-The time you speak Of when yoi called upon
him. Is near ~ eaa recollect think it is :
over S.'0, 900 that he was behind Ut the time
spoke to him shout it. That is ~ pear - can
recollect think, too, that he paid chat in after
wards. Sometimes he would give NE chccks
for money, and Of coCrse would deposit
There Vas one tine TINT I remember Of that ho
gave me So, COO In currency, and told nc to de-
poait 1t, and another time be gave 81, COO.
cannot remember exactly, but know he has given
me money from tine to time to deposit
Q--Ton say TINT yon suspected there WIS some
thing vrung but he subsequently made It right ~
far A. you know! A.-As fur As knew, SIR
cannot be positive abont it.
Q<-Nhen did You lind
THE NEXT GROUND OF sCsp1c1o47
Al don't remember. don't remember any
particular time any more than that remarked to
him-1 cannot remember the time now-I remafk-
I'd to him that he was behind or the cash YVES be-
hind, and that he should pay 1t MP, and. ~ told
yon mlun,a ago, he saia to me-, '"Tha: is a1i
right you are to attend to your own b4,sness, and
I will attend to mine; know all about It, or
something like thnt- don't remember now the ex-
set words.
Q.-Iox much Was behind ut the time you
spoke 70 him then2 Al could net remember
now, sir.
Qr-What i: your impression about Il: A-My
impression i that IT was $50. 900 oF 500. 900 At
that time. could not tell whether he didn't hold
checks against It. Very often be would have me
enter up property on the cash books and mark it .
paid, auo lie would put \ due-bil1 tor it in him
self. think there Is one instance.