The Cairo bulletin. [volume] (Cairo, Ill.) 1872-1878, 1876-04-04
Hired by Pierrepont and the
President as a Spy, He also
Accepts Employment Un-
der Babcock.
Grant Wanted him to Find
Ont if his Secretary was
a Whisky Thief, and
When Bell so Report
ed He was Dis
charged.
A Statement the Most Astounding
Yet Made PubIic-0ne That
Smirches the Third-Term
Candidate with Terpitude.

this morning before the Clymer commit
tee that he made an application for post
leadership at Fort DAVIS, Texas. and
came here In June. 1872, to see Bclknap
about it, and that In the course of the i'll
tcrview the secretary OF war offered to
sell him post for two thousand dollars
per year. Then he told how he was APP |
pointed clerk in the interior depart. |
mcnt, and was finally employed by the |
president to 20 to ST. Louis on special |
duty connected with the Babcock trial.
luestion-Under that appointment
were YOU interested in the Babcock case
i'm st. Louis. Ans.-No, | was not. ,
CUES. Were you sent ont there to take
any part in it? Ans.-No sir, not under
this appointment.
Qucs.-Undcr amy appointment!
Ans.-No, sir.
Ques.-Wcrc you never employed in
any way in connection with that case:
Ans.-Not by the government.
Ques.-By whom: General Babcock!
Ans. (hesitatingly)-No, | cannot say
that was.
Ques. By his counsel: Ans. No, sir.
Ques.--By anybody for him! Ans
BY some one acting for him: ! suppose
acting for them; they said they were. ]
was employed in November.
Ques.--What services were You TO rem
der under that employment: Ans. (aiter
| a pause)--I would like Il little time TO re-
! fleet upon that matter, so as to put It IN
shape.
Ques.--I only want the truth il Is not
| very hard To tell that. Ans.-l do NOT
| know as that has anything to do win this
case.
Oucs.-Wc will determine that after we
hear it, only want to know who cni-
! plo,cd YOU. Ans.-ln regard To these
St. Louis whisky matters:
Oucs.-lcs. General BabCock u an
army officer, aud | propose to enquire
about him now. Ans.-Well, was EN-
ploycd by Mr.. Luckey, the private secrc-
tary of the president.
Qucs.--What were you to do Tor Luck
cy: Aus.-To make it as brief posi-
bic, was To look into the hands OF Inc
district attorney there collected and see
what evidence there was against General
| Babcock.
Oucs.-Nou were sent by Luckcy then
to 90 out there and inquire what case
there was against Babcock: Ans.-I
was there at the time.
pucs.--Did Luckcy write to you:
Ans.-No sir: met him there at the
hotel. o
Oucs.-IiOw were you to do 1t! Ans.
= was simply to visit the district attor-
news Office, as had the run of the Office
there, and see what evidence there was.
O,lcs,-Did you 20 there and get hold
oft: Ans.-l did
Oucs.-Witll the consent of the district
attorney? Ano. No, sir.
Qucs.-You got it scrreptiously, then
Ans.-l did.
Oues.-Did you furnish what you got
to Colonel Luckey: Ans.-l did. That
Of, 4 ,.,1.. af..1
Oucs.-Was there any other person
connected with Colonel Luckey that you
know of: Ans.-A gentleman named
4. &. Bradley, of Washington. who said
he was acting rs one of the counsel for
General lSabcock.
Ques.-What information did you fur
nisi Luckey? Ans.-I told him that the
evidence against Babcock at that time
was weak. did not give him copies OF
any papers.
Dues. you real the evidence
against Babcock that was in the district
attorneys office! Ans.-Oh, no; only
knew from what | heard in the office
and what Colonel Dyer himself told
me.
Ques.-Did Colonel Dyer know that
, you were the agent of Luckey! Ans
No, sir not ut that time. Subsequently
he did.
Ques.-Did you look over the papers In
that office: Ans.-Some OF them.
Ques.-Did you read them all: Ans
| read a good many of them.
Ques.-Where did you get the paper:
In the office. Ans.-On the tables and
in drawers.
Dues. Was that the precise service
that Colonel Luckey told you to render
him: Ans.-lt was.
Ques.-Hc told you to 60 there and lind
out: Ans.--To go and find out all ] could.
wish to state that all that time | be
lievcd. from conversations heard in the
district attorneys Office, and among
many influential persons outside, that
} this attempt to implcatc General Bah
cock was made for the purpose of injur
ing General Grant, whom had served a.
scout during the war. and for whom
had strong regard. These men claimed
TO DC stron. friends of Brlstow's. saw
many kilograms that passed between
Washington and the district attorney
there. aud many others. and il looked
that way. believed that until anotle.
matter came up there, and then thought
the parties ont there were acting without
authority aud perhaps were oycr-anxiOus
aud believed it until came to Wash.
I ington. When came here ! found
was on the wrong track, and dropped IT,
took measures altcrward 10 cause in
formation To reach the president that
his idea wa wrong that BabcOch
was not guilly-''that he was guilty"
Oues.-lOu informed the president
that Babcock was guilty; Ans.--I TOOK
measures to inform him that believed
bc was gully. did it because the prcsi
dent himself told me that il Babcock wa
guilty he wished To know 1t. lie wished
nothing concealed, and lic wished hin
punished. took the president ~ his
word aud informed him OF 1t, and got
my discharge IN three days aftcrward.
Qucs.--Did you have any conversation
with Babeock with regard TO this matter
Ans.-frcquently probably a dolei
times after my arrival here in December
lucs.ii at any time Babcock admit
ted to YOU that he was guilty, please STATE
II Il. Ans.--Ilis admission was clear enough
II they wanted me to get evidence out o
the Office and destroy 1t, 1t was clear
enough.
Ques.--Did he admit 10 you that h(
was guilty. Ans.--i told him What
Bradley asked me to do IN IT. Louis. and
instead OF dissenting he said he did not
wish me to get the evidence out Of thai
Office unless could get the whole Of II
that il got part of II, II would be worse
than none.
\ Qucs.-What had Bradley asked you t.
dos Ans.--lle asked me to get the EVIL
dencc out OF that Office and bring 1t tC
7 the Llndcll hotel
i What was to be done with it: Ans
Destroy 1t.
" Ques.--was Colonel Luckey present