The New York herald., 1876-07-29

the impression IN The mind OF the President
that we were giving away everything to the city OF
Hesing and Ward and while the question 10 the pro-
prety OF the policy was not important was important
that he should see the President Immediately, tako
with him his letters to Sutton. let me take my
letters 10 Sutton and his kilograms TO Mr. Webster and
explain to tho President the whole case. He renc-
tantly consented. We went, and The Secretary
with great parucularity stated to the President
fully and fairly, reading from the official
documents the situation OF affairs at Chicago
Tho basis OF what the Secretary had TO say covered
by this telegram OF mine to Mr.. Webster January IA,
1876
The following despatch ty the Secretary Tuition
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DESPATCH TO rUrroy.
As have desired any arrangement with indicted
tered into by the United District Attorney with the
Having confidence their jndsmsn. and hdoiiy We
ne % IN their hands not doubling ~ 'h", they w
Aner the Secretary and myself had concluded our
statement and the explanation OF our position the
President expressed himself wholly satisfied Herewith
and referred with great kindness to General Webster
AMI then ensuod very kind and friendly interview,
touching other matters between the Secretary and the
President which II Is not necessary and proper Tor
to 20 into further than 10 that General Babcocks
case was again alluded 70 and the Everest testimony
stated to the President by the Secretary On the
evening of that day addressed Secretary the iol
lowing letter.
DEAR called to bid you bon poyase say
Ss aas. s than an hour After our return n from ss
deal nervous and asked me II had any newss replied
which Is said Yes j. !. ,ha, about which desire AK
What does m ss Ass s d Nee
to Baocock every Item possible evidence which he had
very promp. and emphatic denial 10 every story and
anything TO Ut W. s Sp e" S'aS "Ty e
added that could not deny When tho President ased lie
Bnbcosks Interest. What am TO- dol Again, have
objection on gener. principles .ove B9beses fair show
cuscd party to hear the details Of the against him
INTERVIEW WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
About the Goth OF January the Attorney General
called for me and went over. He said he wanted to
talk with me about the Babcock and the situation
''Ccranly." He said =
"what is it about that man lverestr"
told the Attorney General in substance what had
already reported TO the President He said that
he had been good deal troubled by request which
the President had made of him with reference
ing circular letter to tho United states District Ator
ney cautoning HIM against taking the testimony OF
accompliccs. He snd that he had told the President
that he other way to get to the bottom except
by resorng 10 the use OF the testimony OF accompices
and that after three interviews with the Presi
dent The President being very earnest about IT, had
written a letter which he wanted to read to mo. He
sent hts clerk TO bring H. and then for tho first time he
read TO his circular letter 10 the District Attorneys
He Sold
'.You note, Wilson, that do not go so far as the
took a draft Of that letter over tn the President
and read Ito him. and he was not satisfied with 1t
and wanted mo to say In specific terms that the testi
mony Of no man who entered plea OF guilty. should
be used IN any prosecution, but that the parties
should be gwen TO understand tina. they should
be brought TO punishment. l said in reply
to the Attorney General that the letter
had been written, that 1t would be sure in its
present condition to be misunderstood, and told him
that IN my Judgment It was equivalent to saying to
those who pleaded guilty, " You must not do
It. II you do you simply render certain your own
10 on
pect thcreirom" The Attorney General said he hoped
the letter would not be so understood, and he sad:-
''You note shat 1t Is Not intended Tor publication.
SAID that If the distrc; atto did not misundcr
stand II; If did not create that impression, and II it
That tho 29th. On the night of the I'd Sd of
February read the Chicago OF tho lst OF Febru
ary and that contained the circular letter Of the
Attorney General IN substance with m Introduction
IN which II was stated as | now rccoliect that
the President OF tho United States was dis,
and this letter indicated change with reference
thereto. ] took the paper at once and went over to
General Bristow and road it to him. said to him that
in my judgment
had arrived In the prosecution Of the thieves that not
wthsianding the of the Presidents satisc
ton with what had been dec led upon interview
OF the 2;lh Of January. 1t clearly evident that
meant to bring about conflict and change Of policy,
and told the Secretary that he must take
steps to have an understanding with tho Attorney
General and the President. He agreed with The
stops that he took he hnsolf and the Attorney General
and the records must show
on the day after the interview with the Secretary
of tho Treasury saw the correspondent OF the Chi
cago Times, Mr.. keenan,, and he told that he had
received that letter from the hands OF Emory Storrs
the counsel of General o. +. Babcock. wish say
fcrcnce with the Attorney General IN which, accord
ing TO Colonel Dyer's statement the Attorney General
the circular letter was written at the suggestion and
instance Of the President OF the United staies is
enough for me to say OF my own knowledge that such
was the result OF the evidence and Of the facts that
have here nsrrncd that the Secretary Of the Treasury
by the 18th OF February had resolved that there
nothing lett for him but to leave the Cabinet
PERSONAL RELATIONS BROKEN
The personal relations between himself and the
President OF the United States we're almost wholly
broken or We learned from many sources that tho
President had determined to dismiss both the Secre-
tary and myself at the close Of the Babcock trial One
ot those sources of Information such and high
that It, taken with other facts, created my mind
absolute certainty. Hero Is the letter.
LETTER
Ny DEAN srn-I Informed on good authority that Gen
asserting very strongly that Soon as the B"eoet trial IS
an:asS 1 asna.. Pr.Sw ri .. Of n. C.slas
.as "'si i,isi ss to ss
and md Foster g Ohio this that may know
the ,n had long talk With as
the proprietie. should ike very much to know how
ers stood Tho opinion that 0epsr. gsocoek wll be
very rapidly. should no be clearly vndcatcd would
faithfully yours, j. d. WEBSTER.
On the 10th Of February addressed the following
letter 70 the President
LErTER PRESIDENT
Ny DkAE Mr. PnksIpEsr-My attention has been called
the attitude Of having sabornod perjury beng
bernte against good and that
OF your relatives have not the article In |
question. but understand that also charged with
having pursued Senator Logan and Mr. Farwe by the
methods As to these two gentlemen called
make any explanation further than havs
Ill will toward them personally hope, however that if
they have aided abcited In any way ,he
mission of fraud on the revenue Chicago they
will be caught and panshed In reference
TONS ask favor tina; you will the enclosed copies
OF letters written to CooEel Matthews Supervisor
nal Revenue at Chicago These copies have
Piereponts possession as appears from his pencil udorsc
thereon desire to ad- that allegation the
article far reported false whethe.
X from Mr. Tuition whatever source.
Before skinx your mind In elaton statement
which reflects me trust will have the kindness
permit TO be heard l have done o since | have
been In public ofcc that afraid to and
which viii not indorse when understand tho
circumstances and facts lcaing 70 that action VITA
III And NL GIN