The New York herald., 1876-03-15
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.

WASHINGTON, March II, 1870
Mr.. SPARKS, (dem.) of H.. from the Committee on
Indian Affairs reported a substitute for the bill to
transfer the Indian Bureau from the Interior Depart
meat to the War Department, and asked that 1t DO
made the special order for Saturday next
A long and somewhat heated discussion took place
between members OF the Indian Committee and of tho
Military Committee TO which OF these committees
had the more legitimate jurisdiction OF the matter.
After the discussion the bills reported by the Indian
Committee and by the Military Committee, the
subject of the transfer of the Indians made the
special order for next Thursday two weeks. the bill
Of Indian Committee to have precedence that
of the Military Committee.
THE REAL ESTATE POOLS
Mr. GLOVER, dem of No., chairman OF the Select
Committee on the Real Estate Pool and the Jay Cooke
Indebtedness made report on tho contumaciousnesa
of witness Haett Kilbourne, VINO refused to pro-
duce the books of his firm to answer certain ques-
tions as TO who composed the real estate pool
The proceedings of the committee were read, from
which it appeared that tho real estate pool consisted
first OF i've persons who had contributed S. 900 each
tand who were subsequently, assessed $1,000 each and
OF Jay Cooke Co.. who had contributed s25, 0O0 (but
did pay any assessment). HIS firm was the agency
through which the operation TO be conducted aud
had subsequently purchased OF the original SIS 0W
shares paying Tor 10 the exact amount with interest
which had cost the owner He declined TO give the
name OF the person whose had thus pur
chased. He also declined giving any testimony reat-
ing 30 the individuals composing the pool He said
that IL IL could DO shown IN any way that the govern
ment interested in IT, or that his testimony would
promote the interest Of the government in any way he
would tell everything about it,
In reply to this the Chairman informed him that the
committee did not propose TO examine into his private
Affairs but only into those that ancctcd the public IN
tercst.
In further response to his counsel Or. Black tho
witness stated that the matter had relation what
ever TO any public affair that 1t was purely private
Transaction and that there was officer Of the gov
OF the United States or Of the government OF
the District Of Columbia directly or indirectly con-
nccted with II.
The conclusion of the committee is that it is
sary Tor the efficient prosecution OF the inquiry that
Halet Kibournc shall be required TO respond TO the
subpoena duces ecam, and TO answer the questions
which he had refused 20 answer.
Mr GLOVER moved the adoption OF an order that the
Speaker his warrant 70 the Sergeant -Armi
commanding hun TO take custody Haot Kilbourne
and bring him 10 the bar OF tho House TO show
why bc should not be punished for contempt Tho
order made and the warrant issued
Mr. JESKs, (dcm of Pa, offered n resolution calling
on the Secretary of the Interior for information as &c
the dcalcation OF William r. Collins, late Pension
Agent in Washington CITY, Adopted
Mr. HUTTON (dcm) Of Va, from the judiciary Com
mttee reported resolution calling on the Attorney
General copies of all letters, kilograms aud Iapers
asking for the removal OF Judge Beiord. ofColorado
Adopted.
mttce of the Whole tMr. Cox, Of New York, in the
chair the Legislative Appropriation pill, anu was
addressed by Mr. BENNETT, OF Idaho.
PERSONAL EXPLANATION
Mr. KELLEY, (rcp.l ofPa, rising TO a personal ex-
panaton sent 10 the Clerks desk and had read an
article IN the New York World charging him with
having obtained contracts for Mr.. Dobson the
owner OF a wooen mill on the SchuylkilI TO furnish
blankets Tor the government, and with hav.
ing taken TO himself twenty per cent Of
the profits, thereby receiving about sl00 600.
Powers lie said he deemed explanation due more
10 Mr. Dobson than 10 himself. He said Mr. Dobso1
had built up magnificent works by HIS own INDUSTRY.
As for himself he SAID II there any man who anew
him we'll who attached any Importance TO tho state
ment then he had lived vain.
THE RECUsANr wITSBsS
The scrgcant-atArms appeared at the bar with Hal
lett KOourne, the rccusant witness, IN custody. 90
being skcd whether he was prepared TO answer the
questions put to him. he asked leave to be heard orally
by his counsel, Mr. Black and Mr. Dudley Field
During the consideration OF the question Mt Giover
oi Missouri ntimated that no Understood from the VII
ness that he would satisfied by having read written
argument prepared by his counsel
Mr. PAGE rcp.) OF Cal, insisted upon the witness
right TO be heard orally by counsel aud that view was
advocated Dy Mr. Iloar OF Massachusetts, and Mr..
Concer o. Michigan, and was opposed by Mr. Holman,
OF Indiana and Mr.. Joncks OF Pennsylvania
Finally the proposition 10 be heard orally by counsel
was lard the table aud written argument was read
from the Clerks desk.
AZ the conclusion Of tho reading tho Speaker called
upon the witness rise, and addressing him. he asked
him whether he prepared TO answer the ques-
tons put TO him by the committee, reading thom 10
him IN detail
Mr. KlLBouRNE responded that he respectfully dc.
cilned for the reasons heretofore given.
The SPEAKEK then asked him whether he was pre-
pared 10 produce his books and papers In obedience
the subpoena duoes tecHm
Mr.. KLnoURNE replied that he was not
Mr.. GLoyEg then offered resolutions committing the
witness 90 the custody OF the and
quiring that Official TO keep the witness custody
the common ja Of the District OF Columbia until he
should purge himself OF his contempt
The resolutions we're agreed TO aud the witness wat
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