Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1876-11-08
Mafrhman & 0nnrnaL
WEDNESDAY. NOVEMBER 5. 1879.
Legislature of Vermont.

Wednesday, November 1st, 1870 senate.
The Senate met observation-disclosures Proctor
In the chair
Reading Of Scriptures and prayer by tho chap
lain. journal OF yesterday read aud approved
Bus etc., introduced and Rcterred-By Senator
DAVIS, an act providing for fees Of jurota In
criminal causes before Justices read twice and
referred 10 committee on Judiciary.
by Senator EiDREDbE, m act relating to the
application Of highway taxes within the limits of
incorporated villages; read twice and referred 10
committee on highways and bridges
By Senator SOWLES, an act In amendment "
section 2, chapter 20, x s. relating 10 letters ter
tamentary and other proceedings In the probate
Of wills read twice aud referred 10 committee
judiciary.
BWs Passed-H 40, an act to amend section
"a, chapter ~, g, s.. read third time and passage
refused
II. Ga, an act relating to cemetery associations;
read third time aud passed
n 80, an act 10 amend an act entitled an act
in relation TO the collection Of highway taxes"
read third time and ordered 10 lie
s. Z, an act in amendment Of chapter So e. s.
read third time and passed
$. TO- an act relating to tho grand liat read the
third time and the bill was recommitted.
y IL, an act regulating appeals under chapter
~, < =. read the third time and passed
I, an act authorizing the village Of Rutland
10 borrow money on time to increase and extend
its present supply Of water; read the third time.
5. o. an act 10 amend section 9, chapter ~, &
f., ot the collection Of taxes read the third time
and the question being shall the bill pass Sena-
tors Davis and Simons favored the bill and Sena-
tors GrOut, Sowles, Cushman Mason aud Guild
opposed the bill, aud on the question the passage
" the bin was refnsed-ayes nine nays fourteen.
On motion the Senate adjourned.
scnntc-Afternoon
The Senate met. Lieutenant-Goyeruor Proctor
in the chair.
MA etc., Introduced and Re6rrcd-By Senator
CIRCUIT an act % incorporate the Vermont Mort
gage Company read twice and referred 10 the
committee on judiciary.
n. 49, an at To pay william H. Roynton the
sum therein named rcsd twice and referred 10
committee on claims
u. -, nn act In addition 20 chapter i2i. <. s.,
entitled OF county ia- aud the coniinementand
discharge Of prisoners. read twice aud referred
To committee on judiciary.
II 90, an act relating 10 cemetery associations;
read twice and referred to committee on judiciary.
II. 10, An act In addition 10 chapter 81 < D. en-
titled, oil the grand list read twice and re-
ferrcd to committee on grand list
Reports Of C0nDiitieos-irom the committee on
Judiciary, against 5 10 an act in addition 10 sec
tou %, chapter 81, and section Z. chapter l3,
relating TO service Of writs by Indifferent persons
third reading refused.
IRON tho same, IN favor Of 5. lS an act relat-
ing 70 liens at law, with proposal Of amendment;
the question being on the adoption Of the amend
ment, Senators Elbridge Mason, seymour and
Grout opposed the amendment aud the bill.
senators Davis. Cushman and Sowles favored the
bill and amendment The amendment was agreed
to--Yeas, thirteen nays four.
Inc QUESTION utlnL on the llllfu reading OF Ilf
hill, Senator Carpenter opposed thc blll aud seua-
tor- Richardson, l.yndei lluntngtonand Wheelock
favored il
senator CIRCUIT demanded the yeas and nays
which were a. follows Neas-Senators Cushmau,
Davis, Huntington, landou, LeaNenworth, 10th
ron lyndc. Richardson RNford. Sowles, Nhee-
lock and Williams-l2 Nays-Senators Butter
field, Carpenter Eldredge, Grout, Guild, Mason,
seymour, Spaulding, stOrrs, Thompson, Walton
and Whitcumb-l2 The vote being tle the
President voted nay, so the third reading Of the
bill was refused.
ON motion, the Senate adjourned
House-Forenoon.
Reading Of Scriptures and prayer by the chaplain
The journal Of yesterday was read and approved
Read Third 1ne-H. 81 in addition 20 chapter
12i, z =. relating 10 county jais aud the confue-
meut and discharge Of prisoners passed
H. %, relating to cemetery associations; passed
H. l75 In addition 10 chapter 50, Z. - relating
to the grand list passed.
Rep0rt-From committee Of ways and means,
in favor Of H. 4s, establishing the salaries OF eer-
tain state officers with proposals Of amendment.
The first fixed the salary Of treasurer at thou
sand and five hundred dollars with six hundred
and fifty dollars for clerk hire
Mr LADD Of Alburgh moved to strike out the
words one thousand and five hundred dollars and
insert the words thousand dollars. lie said
he believed the salaries OF all the state officers
should be reduced 10 somewhere near what they
used 10 be He thought it not difficult matter
10 find plenty Of competent men, who could give
cept the offices and discharge its duties for the
sum named in his amendment
Mr.. LYNDE of Marlboro. for the committee,
said the committee had proposed 10 make a reduc-
ton Of about ten per cent, and he thought that
was quite sufficient and he hoped the report OF tho
committee would be sustained.
Mr.. SPRAGUE + Of Brandon, said he was In IA
vor Of retrenchment and economy, but his eNpc
rience bad led him 10 believe that it WIS better u
pay fair salary for good services rather than
have indifferent services at a cheap rate. i'
found there was more labor In connection WIN
these officers than he had supposed and he be
lieved Others OF the committee had found The
same 10 be true lie would not be penny wise
and pound foolish, but pay lair salaries for tho
services rendered
Mr. LADD Of Alburgh, said he cast no refec
tion on the motives Of the committee but it was
question for the legislature 10 decide what sal
aries they wanted to pay, and he had no doub
men could be found who would perform the Ia
bors OF the offices for the reduced salaries, /
does not require more than half the time of thi
treasurer TO perform his duties, and II we nov
pay him one thousand dollars and five hundred
dollars for clerk hire, we should be giving hin
fifteen hundred dollars for labor which he can Dc
without any clerk and not take half his time.
Mr.. LYNDE Of Marlboro said we must remem
her that the present state treasurer IS ALREADY
elected and we cannot hardly put this Office up q
auction lie believed the salary OF the stat
treasurer a. proposed by the committee Is a
small as we can afford 10 fix it, lie believed
but Just and honorable amount 10 Iay
Mr. ADAMS Of Enosburgh, said we need bot
Integrity Of character and ability combined, AM
he believed we could not afford to put men I
office who do not possess both aud when we d.
we must pay them justly.
Mr. FRENCH Of Woodstock, said the commit
tee had carefully considered this matter, and h
did not feel like questioning the Judgment OF IN
committee. There was a teellng IN MS sectlo
that there should be reduction in salaries, an
the committee had reduced the amount paid 70
clerk hire from nine hundred dollars 10 six hur
dred and fifty dollars, which he thought a sutl
cent reduction, and hoped the position oil I'd
committee would be sustained.
Mr. LADD said, 1t is not true that the treasure
would be Obliged 10 serve for a reduced salar,
having already been elected for II Mr Page doe
not fit 10 serve for the reduced salary, he ca
resign and he would guarantee that there woul
be thirty applicants for the position az the salar
he proposed to pay that officer lie said thei
were large sums in the hands Of the treasurer an
in the hands of the banks that belonged 10 III
state, and it WAS worth something TO the officers
Mr. LYNDE OF Marlboro disagreed with u
gentleman from Alburgh, in regard to the dlsl
siton that had been made of the funds OF u
state, that interest had been demanded and I'M
at least one bank had returned the money rath
than pay the interest.
Mr. SpRAGuE of Brandon said that he b
lieyed the duties OF the treasurer were such TN
we could not justly ask that officer To perform u
duties Of the office At less than the salary pr
posed by the committee
Mr. LADD said he did not wish to cast any :
Election on the present incumbent, whom
thought very competent oiicer.
Mr.. BLODGErT Of st. Johnsbury demand.
the previous question, which was seconded by u
House. The question recurring shall the ma
question now he put it was decided In the ne
atve-ayes eighty-nine nays ninety 1--WE.
Mr. LADD of Alburgh said the question "
evidently not understood and moved to reconsld
the vote inst taken; which was agreed TO. II
House then ordered the main question to be pl
and rejected the amendment proposed by I
committee
Mr. LADD then moved to fill the blank IN
bill by fixing the salary at $1,000 with $500
clerk hire
Mr. POLLARD Of Windsor moved to anne
the motion fixing the trelsurers salary at Sl o
with $500 for clerk hire
The Speaker decided that under the thirty-four
rule 1t would be necessary to divide the questic
and put the motion first on the larger sum- VIM
would call for vote on Mr.. POllards propos
amendment as TO the treasurers salary, and
Mr. Iadds proposed amendment as TO clerk n
Mr.. BATfELL of Ripton, said the bill conte
plated fixing the amount to be paid the ueasu
without any clerk hire, as section made the
AIRY to cover salary, travel and attendance up
the general assembly, including clerk hire
Mr.. BAILEY of fairhayen, Mr.. Olmstead
Townshend and Mr. French OF Woodstock, hsrt
with the gentleman from kipton,
Mr. OLMSTEAD of Townsend, moved TO anne
the amendment proposed by Mr.. ladd, by M
the blank, fixing the salary OF the treasurer
one thousand six hundred and fifty dollars, "h
sum would include his clerk hire