The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1876-05-30

oREENEs sURMIsss.
Q.-What was the next thing thet occurred IN THIS
iu,'.t' d inS 'k, n9t t' ,c uls o. n w., n"T
remained fhout ta an hour. MIR. Kerr tls,d VITA me
~ ..isth.t / had and from thai tninat ccou,cr.
- 81 ouN urn IN, other suui cts-suoigcts Of the
ny mni Tat d. wa cndcivoring 10 investigate as
10 c amount Il my iuie. euco. -. something OF tut
Se he Soud p be a.aed T N romns'@ SO ms I r
40 an me- tn0u .h wascrusci to somc con locri.
he ht nominated man from HI. dis net, hu the man
had fused to go lcfcrc the Examining Boarf aul tr
rsp'da mad Jed V m " Sra a' for iGce V or iour
II ollhs aud thou ,ht can dp and Mr. Kerr said tie
have SOM htiers from pfoml eat men IL New YORK
I'd rcss to Inn r,rsunaN, requesting the appoint.
m,n!. I rcpn,a that i would tndeavOr to yet item,
AMI went on 10 Now YORK.
O-Mas here nything sd sth reference 10 going
10 me War Department Win YOU Al cannot say
knoS did 90 TO the War department together.
The witness said he thought It was after MIR.
Kerr received these recommendations ina he
went with i'm to the War Department, and hts
rane was then entered for appointment. Wit
ness said that either before or after the occur
renee. he could not remember which, hut 1t was
after his return from New YORK. he han0ed MIR.
IlWnev som money IN bills In the park In front
OF the .pitol, and he sent MIN the b lance sub
seqnen,iy from New York Harnev Introduced
hun to MIR. Kerr within few hours after lie
twitness) agreed to HarneN's ptopOsiiiou. IL
~, nave been within two hours. or perhaps
within twenty four hours. There was no time
lost IN the matter.
Q-Durng any Of these interviews with Mr.. Kerr did
you have any coIvcrsatlon with him soout money or
QIIa no way at slip A.ESo. 'r.
Q.-Dld "a ADVISE him say anything 10 linn with
reference TO your arrangement with Mr. Harvey A.
nARNEY SPOKE TO HIM
witness said he had n association or arqu int
anccship u Mr. kerr's distiict or m Ind ma tuat
aided him with reference to this n pointlnent.
TINS subject. out he declined to tax about H.
\ few weeks subsequently man representing
himself Us coming from the An rlisers ores
called On MIN In New NOrk and said he de- ired
to nave some private conversation VITA him con-
corning a rumOr tnat he had paid Mr. Kerr
money for his appointment. Witness rephed
There Is not a word of truth In ~ - but ne de-
Clned the day afterwHTd to ACCOMPANY TINS per-
SON to a LAWYERS ONCE IN Nassau street and
make affidavit to this denial, ana again declined
when this person lied again with a Not nv
Public. This person gave bis name as Nanp nee
or Vanzindt. He did not recollect the name Of
the law Urn. but thought the number Of their
oflice was stated to be 132 Nassau stiect.
In reuly to questions put by Mr.. Ciymer. wit
ness said that Mr.. Kerr ex AMI ned him very care
fully "a t. his recommendation and general
cauacty. Witness. three years af, or his appoint
ment, stopped at New Aibanyt TO pay his respects
% Mr.. Kerr. which he would nos have done II
he had believed that Mr.. Kerr received the
money which he (witne.s) paid to Harvey. lie
did not then believe aud does not now believe
that Mr. Kerr received this money.
HARsEY's TESTIMONY.
To-day Lawrence barney was examined. He
testified that his residence is In New York
that he Is not now engaged In business, having
resigned his position In the Appraisers ONCE In
the New YORK Custom House ON the 2yth Of
April last. lie was employed In the spring OF
1888 rs an Assistant DoOrkeeper OF toe House OF
Representatives. and continued IN the position
during two sessions OF Congress He had known
Augustus 4. Greene for thirteen yeas.
estate whether you had anv conversation or In
view with him ~ ssard TO securing or obtaining tor MIN
army and Il 90, where and wnenS In tne House Of
REPRESENTATIVE He wanted the position, and inter-
ested myself Ne ais persona friend aud he appoint
o.~Sos YOU may leii what took place IfYou have
any knowedse win regard To securing tn appoint-
person. Al viii not tell what confidential. anu DO
mo- ise disposod TO do 90 unless MADE 70 disc use H.
an ~ tG Az. conver..,o, ,oos r,.oo ,.w.o
Greene and yourself AT nrst interves Greene
wanted thr place aud got Cor nu.
between Greene ana yourself X@t,reene saed on me
ahd SAID he wanted lhr .po1ntm. IT. and toI hiul
,,o-Mss an, Ihing stll a6oa. m,n being paid A
tnins Il would be doing justice 10 any gentleman "
NJ Bass / insist upon an answer to the question.
>. NJ: 1Nmef-Ine gentleman Is entitled to iui and
Mr. Pass Was there conversation as to using money
Nituess-l ask to re 1cused from answering as ali
ma t.oA place was matter OF conn ienee do not
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want 4 Ne Censurcd, want do nly friend. Justice
Speaker Kerr here remarked that IL there was
ANYTHING IN connection with him marking the
transaction as confidential, the witness need
no. regard 1t. But he expected witness TO tell
the truth.
witness-If Mr.. Kerr wants me to tell tae truth
Will 10 80.
GREENE AND HARVEY.
Mr. Blss-Tell what took place between you and
A-Ggeene SAM TO me maj II procured a
thut II Ne, That tine impu,sibc e. get
nu mt YOU'D search among n m'moers u iae
y"ancy unt ~ Mr.. Rem 80 Inn sp.se 10 INN
ws. Green, ia to mo tnaf Il Mr kerr obi.incd he
Iii him ihai ureene came rom NV Yors st.te 'n
ihat ! was u Republican and Greene was kenun.
Grccne lac eool qualifications Tor The place aid sir
kefr seemed p.elscd VITA 1reeue,, recoInnr.diu n.
hii hc wanted 1.eru, g obs IN Democratic ,Hdur e..
lnr Prurtlty ~ ne upp, ihmcn Dec could tlo" WAS
uunru latiOu. a,scd Mr.. Kerr h.w much u4untg I
Neul naNe 10 pas uim lie sali n N app3utmant
Geeuc cOul uor give 500, pu cluid raise $500. Ar,
NV c,p Greene ina. e,ens anI toi hin tnat Mr
MT ",htrif "u hr taii i. "a not La much money
D. s4'' Hrrrh. c1alica mc 800 90 g., 40, a go
more. took tnis amount and Adlcd sip more Il.
Hr,cne subsequently forwarded me from Sew YORK
Am ,uut wuch mao advanced on M account kpt
IA btn s o 'ers or iog q@y r,n oie
ue wien wa oh iut ai me ~ door ui tac II 1use
near h. arse s HsSr %' 81 vii ii' taig ' r.
mo4e5 and sy' NV .ee none ,5 w , be Pg mt
iir't 10 MAKE the appointment.
or rtlut ~ -uh)-ci ui th- inye-tig1uO A.. L. was
100 'nr Apprustrs office, ana 40 MnllW Daring. one
OF he NOS honest u men iLaug teri Yr- Ne Whs
horesii Tor he Ner sold IN a'n lntmeut and never
tous ccht o; monei for Whist hc hal done
HARVEY Cross EXAMINED.
r. X. Elliot, counsel for Mr.. Kerr then cross
* AHMED he witness, who said that he never
before the time ~ entlVned approached Mr. Kerr
Tor an appointment. H. WIS ON the nest Of
terms with hini-he meant kind OF friendly
regard. Mr. h RI knew his name aud called
him by IT, Greene knew he must pay for the
place, As that was tne only Nai to obtain Il. Tue
reason why he Thought Mr. Kerr ought - have
pa' was th te mao no CLAIMS on him He dii
not mention money to Mr.. Kerr a. the first inter
VIEW, nor did Lee tiinA that M. kerr supp sed
he WIS 60 NJ 10 tel to Others the confidential
tran .ctions between them. He, however, mad
intimate 10 Mr.. Kerr that be would reward
hlm tur MI toul'e. Wien Mr.. kerc received
ihc money ne said he would 90 To- the War DE
partmeui and have the app "a tment made night
away. Pending tue appointment, Mr. Kerr said
1t was all right. The rel tions between william
A. Darling and himself were Of honesty aud
friendship.
Q-How long has the honesty eAlitedS Always.
Q.-Anu tue friendship? A.-lhe same.
The witness sud there was ALWAYS Il mystery
as 10 how Greene Obt ined the appointment
through him. Everybody was talking about 1t.
lie thought that made of a year he had conf