The New York herald., 1876-07-31

be able to make. On arriving the city General
Brisow and told him what thought ought to be done.
He asscnted promptly and nouHcd General Babcock on
that day touching the telegram. He asked General
Bsocock to tell the President Later on but just be-
fore the President went West, Secretary Brs,ow went
to Long Branch himself and l understand that the
'sylph telegram was the subject OF an interview be-
tween The President and himself. After my interview
with General Porter l supposed that the matter was
settled and gave no more attention to II until was
seht ior oy the resident me PRESIDENT saiu 70 me IN
substance that II seemed TO him that was eLdeavorng
10 implcste him In the frauds. expressed my sur
prise, aud asked him upon what grounds He said:-
you wrote letter TO ST. Louis TO General John H.
Henderson, copy OF which have seen, In which you
tell General Henderson that he 20 TO the very
bottom and top OF the ". H. II was written 10 Gen.
eral Henderson during visit TO ST. Louis abou. the
time left Long Branch, and the time which YOU
therein seemed TO indicate necessary for extra vigil
lance was the ten days or about the time that 1t was
understood was to remain there" !"
He asked Inc what explanation had TO make OF II,
stating that Mr. Dyer and Mr. Henderson per-
sonal enemies OF his and that il was important to him
10 know just what attitude the prosecution meant
to assume with reference to those trials. He
expressed to mo his confident belief in General Bab-
cocks innocence He said that the telegram had been
satisfactorily, explained to him and he thought
that that ought to stop the materthat Ii ought TO
rest there. He added, however,
eli General Babcock is guilty, which don't belieye
he he Is the most guilty wretch IN the world,
lie has Lctrayed my confidence In the most
Infamous way, and besides has betrayed his
Official Oh, trust ana no punishment would oe
Babcock,' he said, ''have been OF loug standing"
and he referred To their associations and 10 the
GcncraIS subsequent POSITIONS connection
lie works. III which engineer OF the army he had
expended large sums of money. and as the President
believed with entire Gdey; and he SAID that rs his
private secretary he had every opportunity TO know
and Judge the man. and he could not believe that he
involved In the Ring. When the President fin
ishcd expressed my surprise and indignation at being
confronted with the forged letter, and asked him who
told him about H. ana lie said 10 me that lie had not
known OF it until General Porter had explained tho
matter to HIM the Sunday before. said To hin:-
''ls 1t possible, Mr. President that General Porter
laid that letter before you and did not say to you that
he and had explanation touching tr that he had
expressed himself as satisfied OF the forgery and as
satisfied wholly with my conduct IN tho premises ?"
The President said in reply that General Porter had
said to him that claimed that letter was forgery
and that 1t seemed to be by relcrence TO the letter
press copy told the President that would let the
matter rest there until could go and get my letter
books and my record as contained in my private mem
oranda connection with the whole Babcock matter,
and he consented to that got my letlerpress book;
got his Barnard letter: | got ali other memoranda
which thought would throw any light upon my
neciion with General Babcocks and back.
showed the President III the first place the Barnard
letter and read TO Inn that extract from 1t in which
Mr. Normile was credited with having sad subssan-
tally
'sfho President daro not 60 too far with Mcdonald
and Joyce, Babcock is lost -
read to him that part of his letter IN which Jim
Casey was referred TO- and turned over the letter and
on the back OF II read to HIM with great elaboration
the Endorsement, in which he had said
THE FAMOUS ENDORSEMENT.
These clippings and this letter sent to the
new Witnesses TO he summoned tSsv NAV be- brought aut
Let no guilty man escape ii IT can be avoided"
read to the President OF the United States the
GLIDING sentences IN his letter, In which he said
BE especially vigilant, charge those IN authority
TO be, against all those who claim to have high au-
thority to protect them, meaning to pro-
tect others or 10 protect themselves and in which he
finally said that personal considerations should
stand IN the way OF the performance OF public duty"
And said 10 him
s'Mr President, what have done in the premises
touching General Babcock have done under the
and in fu pursuance OF your instructions
the Secretary OF the Treasury and to myself"
He nj | haQR m "a
in mind when made that Endorsement, and expect
you to do y, ur duty"
reply which expected you as President OF the United
States, TO make to Inc. "
showed him my letter book tanning the original
and showed HIM the forgery ana ON that he expressed
himself entirely and wholly satisfied. | explained
him that General BabcOek meant in the let
ter and not himself; that 1t never entered my mind
for one moment that under any possible combination
OF it possible ior him to have had
any improper relations with those parties with any
other party engaged violation OF the laws of tho
land; that when iixcd the period during which an
investigation should be made In St. Louis had refer
cnce to ne General Babcock's sojourn that
city, and not to his own, aud that when referred
the associations OF Mcdonald referred TO the we'll
known and familiar associations OF Mcdonald and
Joyce with General Baboock. called the Presidents
attention to the postscript in my letter, which
charged General Henderson that II Judge Miller
should sustain motion quashing the indictments
against Mcdonald and Joyce he should Immediately
move for detention OF the parties pending indci-
ment by the Grand Jury As evidence OF tue TACT that
there was crisis then pending III McDonad's and
Joycos cases, and that there necessity for ex-
traordinary vigilance only my part but on the
part OF local officers there and said to him with ref
erence 10 his relation to the prosecuting attorneys
Mcssrs. Henderson AMI Dyer, and his apprehonsions
that they would do him injustice, that had met
these gentlemen in frequent conferences that had
lately been to the city OF It. Louis and them there
as well thc.cy OF Washington with reference To
General Babcocks case and that neither OF them had
ever expressed, either directly INDIRECTLY auy
touching the President OF the United States
but what IN every way and degree what IL
ought be and respectful him as the
Chci Executive OF the land; that with reference
General Hendersons appointment 10 aid IN the prose-
cution LOUIS Tor the first time that day learned
from HIM he Presden that his relations the Pres
ident OF The Unled states were personally friendly
that had IN the naming OF General Henderson the
OF the first citizens OF ST. Louis first among whom
the Presidents own familiar friend and associate
Henry g. Blow, and that had gone to Samnel g.
Glover. The first lawyer OF the city, and urged upon
hm knowing that he the preference OF the Presi.
10 bring to bear upon him. the importance
TO The public interest OF Identifying
himself with the prosecution OF cases
and accepting the tender which had becn already
nim.by the Attorney General al the suggestion OF
the President; that Mr. Glover admitted to me the
Thoroughly debauch.d and rotten administration of
federal affairs in ST Louis and said that the half had
been told and that 1t was the highest and the
duty OF the President Of the United States and the
Secretary OF the Treasury, by ali the they
could command TO break up the corrupt combhat ons
and conspiracies and introduce new era, If it was
POSSIBLE ia the administration OF federal affairs there
that his relations To Others and his personal
engagements Of character that imperatlycly
prevented anu prohibited HIM from gong ino tue
| asked his advice as to whom should employ and
he said to me:-"Go to John B. Henderson" 'And
,hus," ! said to tho President backed by the
rccomyncndatio OF Mr. Blow and Mr. Glover
went to Mr. Hswlcy, the then supervisor IN
charge, aud alter consultation with Mr. Hawley, ho
,grcod that General Henderson was the party
,boyc all TO be into the prosecution OF
ANA ercupon sent the tecgrdnis TO tho Secretary
llc Treasury and the Attorney sGenera recommend
ny the retention in beLali oi The government Gen.
eral Henderson, and Mr.. Eaton had been recommended
" Chic Justice of the Court ol Claims this city
ne he ore | went West, and had rendered as United
states Commissioner important service In OF
he DEVELOP ment OF fraud AT 81 LOUIS had decided 10
HIM into The SAID to the President that
did believe that either General Henderson Mr..
)vcr would do anything but ms duty III the premises,
a The President himself concerned, he
,houid not permit his personal attitude toward those
gentlemen TO influence him.
By Mr.. PlasleS-Was that said with reference TO
hostile relations between them and the Presidenty A.
Yes sir--bctwecn the President and General Hcuder-
also showed 10 the President that under the
structions OF the Attorney General. but without the
lplroyal OF the Secretary oil Treasury, gone