The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1876-12-11
70 Senate Journal Second Session, Nineteenth

sentauves 20 sus end the nth Joint rule OF tho
two Houses until after the present session OF
Congress. And on motion OF MT. smth on
shr,l nd to amend the stme by adding thereto
the following words: So Tar - the saule re-
ties to bills and resolutions which snail nave
passed hotn Houses before IL o'clock, noon NE
81 of March Instant IL WAS determined III the
Affirmative. Yeas, y; nays 10.
I he yeas and NAYS were ordered (which we 90
not quotcl 80 It was resolved that the sald
resolution pass wit an amendment Oraereu;
the House Of Representatives in the amend-
ment.
message from the Senate 10y Mr.. Lowry, their
Mr. sue lker: The Senate have agreed to the
resolution " this House for the suspension 81
the seventeenth joint rule, with the toll9wlnR
amendment: =" So Tor as the same relates lo
tits aud resolutions which shall have passed
both Houses before " o'clock at noon tine - OF
March instant. IN which the concurrence Of 'hls
House ~ requested.
Tue House proceeded 20 consider the ame nd
uent of the Sen,te To the res oluton for the
pension Of the seventeenth joint rule. and the
amendment being read II was resolved that thls
House do agree thereto. Ordered that the CLERK
acuuaint tie Senate herewith.
In the senate. March IA message from the
| House Of Representatives by Mr.. CLARK, their
| CLERK
ml 4f p Mopss d by he Suspend tie
| teenth joint rule OF the two Houses
Tnus II will he seen that neither House %
Congress can alone suspend, repe ~, or after n
| join rule Vt the two Houses without the con
currense Of the other. III this were possible.
either the IlOuee or the senate COulu suspend the
| sixteanth and seventeenth joint rules. and they
| would he bound to receive and act UPON bills
which bad passed either body WITHIN three
| days OF the close Of the session, which
| the sixteenth JOINT rule forbids. Or VI
| tue House pissed bill which had come from
| tue Senate on tue last day Of tue session, the
| same mignt be presented 10 the President Tor
| bis approval. rhi- cannot he done under inc
| joint rules above mentioned, because " the
| House passed Oil on the last day 81 the ses-
| sion, aud sent 1t to the senate. that BODY would
refuse to receive It, as tho President w9uld also
refuse to approve ii, II the Senate should. IN dis
regard Of the sixteenth Joint rule, concur ia II.
| suspend the sixteenth aud seventeenth JOINT
| rn.es would he sufficient to render any losisla,
| ton requiring tue consent ot both Houses nun
ami void, II mad bS either Of them within three
days Of the close u the session.
| Houses being amended or altered or added to
| without referring the subject - joint Cum-
mittce occurred IN 1894 when the senate intiat-
rent resou in. the following ex racts from
the Journals 4 the senate ANA House SHOW the
In The Senate Jan. 10. 1871 agreeably 70 notice
given, Mr.. Knight asked aud obtained leave to
| bring In the following resolutions
R,sorst by ne Ssagis aud H9ss or F-pr,'semi,,r,,'
nlt !ne seventh OF tnc jon. Idles ad ORDER OF ~,
two Iuscs be - altered a. 70 'athor1c the Ssha.e 70
sRRsS Two D''H'''' u" ''' ''-'''''' '1 u" ''''"
The said resolution was read considered, and
agreed to- q dervd tuat the Sf-rfltrV rea1e-t
the concurrence u tne House ~ k'nresenta-
ives in -iid resoidt'ou zee senate journal.
In the House. on Fen. l. 1891. tue resolution
from the Seuale t. amend iue sev.ntn ~ the
red and agreed t. b, the House. Ordered
that the Clerk ucdu hut the nate thcfewith.
(See House J,urn l. second Session. Mae
teeuth Congress. .. 2ill
| In the senate. Fen. IA message from the
House Of Repre- ,ent Nv by MI, S'tfN, ,ns i
curfcd IN tne re-olu ION from the sen tie III
amend me sevea'n OF the jc"s rales ,s ana
mel. NinO' eeutu tuugfCs >, J.. loJ
A, tne second session u the rwen;ieth Con
| inss occurred IA the House 10 regard 1,
amending the 'inl rules Il tue Two HOUSES Il
| Congress;
E,.o cd That lnc following be added to the join
wan onis .shleh have pis-e one lion,e are order.
-na I9t be prqtrd 1n-n INA, DC neeess-y f'r 'ne "r
Feb. - he resolution moved by Mr
T4vinr YESTERDAY. proposing An amend ment q
tne Joint rules of the two House. Nas read
second lime and ordered to be read the 'h'r'
; FEB g." rhr resolut ion proposing an amend
10 the ' reS the q third iwH me Sm
passed. Ordered that the Clerk request IN
: concurrence OF the Senate In the said resoii
non t~ce House Journal, second session .
! tho twentieth Congress, ~. "a. ~. -;
In the senate. Fcb. "A message from IN
House Il Representatives., uy Mr.. clark thel
:" Nm. PRESIDENT: The House OF Representa-
{ | tive- have pi-SVd a ~. ulutiOn to amend u
1 iliut rul-s OF the two House. I'm relation To- tn
printing Of uhi-, in whicn they request the ~
. currence 81 the senate see -cntte Juurna
[. second Session. twentieth Cong p. l09J
Fen. 9-Ihe resolution received from III
o. House OF representatives, ON the 5th inst. W.
- re- q. as foiOw-;
y Hs ,>L BY tae Ssagg'; asa Hs's g, r.. 'g'.
4 g., neg t'.'.f Amf,' ~ t''1'' '', o.
!, 10 nous's Nncn oli. ~ieA ht,s , ..ei ~ h.,
70 OF copies saali ~ b. pfia'ed tn,n ~ Inc neee-st
for e u-c. 90 tlt II Il-H iusetns ,he order
y The said resolution was considesci, ana r.
lie solved thit tht senate concur theron. order,
that the sccretar, monty the Mouse u itoun
s sna s.s,sn rrW"snyotS SnsS go r. sS
Is Ia the House. feO. "a message from II
e Senate oy ~ L,Nri' tusir =, Ftiln =,
&c re.ouupn to amend tne JOIN rules ~ te Us
&c Houses IN rea.ig 10 the pnntlnS 81 mus. e,
,o Huu.e j lufnal, second Session twentieth '1'
IT. At tie ir.l session OF the rwenty-fourtn co
= Rress, . n jane p. 1919. the following Hrtdin
n were nad m the IIase Of 'pr sent ttlv"- N r
q gard u new IJiut rule Of tue two Houses
Nj. Vinton moved the following reso,utio
o. VIZ.
ne atei1gn. So's IA Hg,e e S,nr'''7'a' me,
ta House vi a fS six DAY. lrn the 60
u.r cement oi tnr second o. o.nrF -d",t lfi .t'sl
~ 81 ~ ,, ,sn, rrsol'n ~,ei ,r,.ia,,r
Ana d pa sed eiiner loi, anl a! u.s clos. OF
IN oth n shall be- rc-umri ana 1ctri on 40 lhr 400
"a | II a. auj ,urnmrnt had not tAAeu rliee
cs rae res0lli ion beng read. the House, bv GO
a sent, Proceeded to the con-ldtrtu IA thcfr'
al wnen A motion was male BY Nj. Raves tu.t {
d. further consideration thereof oepustpnned w
or FRI las neNt, which motion was disagreed 20
-e tue House.
q. me question then REQUIRED on the resoiltl
nj anl afLer debate, the previous question
IT, moved by MIR. Sutherland, and beng demand
NJ hN a mai IIity OF tne members present, the
80 previ lus question was nut VIZ: ShdlI the ma
y. question be nov put; and passed Ia the aihru
Ilye. The man q -tOn was thea mt, VI
IL WIN tae House agree to the resolution Il
nv u ssed ~ the affirm at,vr. ('ec House Jourtl
be FIRST sos ion, Twenty fourth Congress- y. LII
al In the senate. June 27.-A message from
Az House Of Representativ, oy Mr. Fr-n"hn' III
Clerh
Ter Nit PRESIDENTS The House Of Represen
eir tlvcs nave passed resolution GO. lHl ducni
zee the Joint les 81 the two Housa, or tongre
81 ia wlicn they request the concurrence OF
ed' SENATE. -,
June3O. "The resolution Of the House OF RI
M resent ives to amend the JOINT rules OF the
ma uuusos OF Congress WAS then read the seco
les TINE. Ga moilon ny Mr. Mdngum, ordered q
ne IL ne post uned i1dchmtsly" (see Senate 10
nal, Fnst session Of the Iwenty-tourh @
he gres-. T.. 49, 800
6 mate y Ar. Lowry, their secretary:
the Mr. Speaker: The senate have post oned
pre- definitely the resolution from this House
ap' amend the JOINT rules Of the two Houses
Congress. (~ee House Journal, OF me lwen
md fourth Congre :, =. Llll)
mo The Sci ate having postponed indefinitely
~ resolution Of the House creating TINS CONT r.
no further proceedings were had IN tue llO
"a. am tine -uUlpct, and 10 r became JJlNl .