The weekly clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1863-1882, 1876-03-15

n tnJ then This conversation took Place
about Packer
y. Yes ,.,,,,t IN
Q. Did You inform Gibbs the aiii''
be held for Packer!
4. | did. .ie
Q. Was Mr. Davis present at that time
A. No. ,,ia,,.
q. Was Davis present at any interview
YOU had with Gibbs in reference 10 th's pa
A Oh YES: Gibbs and Davis were boih
present when he said Ames had aathorl%e"
Q. Was that on the day OF the delivery OF
I dnn,f rcmeln Der whether it was that
day or the next; have 10 means oil rev"l-
O. DID ,ou ever send Col. Gibbs TO DAY :
TO pay him some money Tor the puiP"
procuring this pardon:
4 never drought of such thing.
O. Did YOU ever arrange an int re" oe'.
tween Col. Gibbs and Davis for the purpose
of paying for this pardon:
O. Is there any other fact that has sng-
,rasted itself to your mind, which has not
been elected by these questions:
A. No, sir; think not: ,,
SHOWS him the certificates of DIR. Mum
son and Hendricks.
O. Examine these papers-See IL you ever
saw them before. when you saw them' anu
from wEomSou got them,
4. lave seen both these papers before
that much of this sheet o; Dr. Munsoh,
witness indicated with his tinger,) Is what
/ wrote our to make his real statement full
er and | tore off part OF the paper These
papers were given 10 me by Mr.. Barrentlhr'
about the first week OF the Circuit Court IN
April.
them?
A. gave them to Gov. Davis.
Cross-eXamined by Manager Barksdale !:
O. [ understood you TO say that the
amount OF money was named as Packer
compensation!
A. Yes.
Q. How much?
A Six hundred dollars
o. Did Davis name that himself?
\. Yes.
@. Did not you ask him what Packer had
done?
y. No, sir
o. Not what services he had rendered
4. No, sir.
Q. The pardon he presented was signed
by himself WAS 1T not:
a. Yes, sir.
@. You say it was never thought of or
spoken of; that there should be amy pardon
signed bv himselt-on the contrary, one
signed by Ames?
a. 1rs, sir.
Q. Did YOU not ask what services Packer
had performed, in procuring the granting
OF that pardon?
A Ali that was said Oh that subject was,
thas Packer had influence with Ames, ANA
could get his consent for Davis to sign that
pardon.
Q. Davis said, that Packer had used his
influence, 10 allow him, Davis TO sign that
pardon?
A. Yes.
Q. understood YOU to say that you re-
garded the pardon as OF no value:
A. Yes
O. He was your client?
\ YES.
q. Y ia were engaged to procure pardon
for nin!!
y. No. 1 was not engaged to procure any
pardon tor him.
Q. Wen, upon what contract had you
pos. session of his 81 250 except the getting
of pardon, or securing your services TO
procure one!
A. stated that he was willing to pay
) ,250 to secure the return of his sou home /;
that it was his own suggestion; and he lett
the check with me, and we then talked
about getting the pardOng
Q. Was not the 81, 250 placed with you as
a compensation for your services?
a. | said he gave me this check for any
service that l might render in securing the
release ana return of his son home, and |
told him to get pardon.
q. Before the delivery of the pardon you
had returned the $l,250?
A. Certainly.
q. Then your obligations were at an end
the day the Governor delivered the pardon
to you?
A. They were at an end, when he came
and expressed some concern as to his
money.
Q. Your obligations had ceased?
A. suppose they had.
q. Then the day the Lieutenant Cover
nor delivered that pardon to you, You were
not his counsel, were you?
A. No. sir, not in the light of having his
pay in my pocket, or anything of that sort.
q. \ GU say you told Barrentine the par
don was ONO value. Was Davis present !?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you tell Davis the pardon was of
no value?
A. told him instantly on reading it, and
hearing where Ames was.
Q. When Barrentine took the pardon and
lett, was there any agreement that he was
to leave, or was there any instructions by
you that if he became satisfied with the
pardon he was to leave the $3.50 with
Gibbs?
A. He was to give the second check to
Gibbs.
O. lie gave, then, the second check to
Gibbs?
4. Yes, sir.
Q In your presence?
a. Yes.
q. For what purposcs
A. Because Davis had said that Amcs had
authorized the pardon. AID he would doubt
less make it good; and then he told us if
Ames would not make the pardon good,
that he had declared to him his purpose o f
leaving the State about June 18th, and that
he Davis would then make it good.
Q. That is, if Davis did not succeed in
procuring pardon from Amcs, he would
give one himself?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Was Davis present when that recent or
check was exhibited?
a. No, nobody but myself Barrentine
and Gibbs; as told YOU he came in. pulled
the check out and offered it to me. and |
declined to receive it because of what he
had said in connection with the first check.
q. And Barrentne said he would trust
the pardon?
a. l never said, he said he would trust the
pardon.
Q. That he would risk taking it?
A. No, he said that Davis seemed as If he
wanted to do right about it, and as lie said
he would give one himself when Ames left
the state, on June 18th, he would keep that
until he got another.
q. Vas that conversation by Barrentine?
A. es, both to Gibbs and myself. Then
he consented to leave the $3.50, and would
risk the curing of it, if it needed curing?
A. Yes.
q. Did you see Barrentlne deliver to Gibbs
that check for $l250?
a. / have said that it was offered to me
in Gibbs presence. That declined to take
1t, and 1t was passed over to Gibbs.
q. Do | understand you that Gibbs re-
ceived it for himself?
A. L understand it to be simply substitu-
ted for check which had been surren-
dered.
q. Well. then, you insist upon its being
received by Gibbs for yourself?
A. Why, of course, bat / insist it was a
substitution for the check which had given
upon his manifesting a little distrust Of his
getting his money back, and on getting his
par don, he left this check in the hands of
Gibbs.
Q. When the Lieutenant-Governor told |
you that Packer demanded six hundred dol !
airs Tor mis- services, did you insist that that |
should be in addition to your own fee of |
twelve hundred and fifty dollars, or was it /