, 1876-01-26
THAT HERDER CLAIM.
E1.Ald. ,Busse Denies that He offered
to Work It Through tho
County Board.
Gommf,saionor Carroll Proposes to Have
tho Whole Maitcr Investigated
by tho Granll jury.

last evening Tn1DuNE roportes called On
cx.Ad Gus A. Busao. At bin rosidonoo On
Goethe street, North Sido. to got his sids Of tho
story, or An explanation Of thu charges mado
Aghtnet him through tho columns Of Tnn TnlB-
uuo yesterday by Mr.. Herdcr, Of blessrs. HoEdsr
l. Dietrich, who anogca TINT l1o (DuaHe) offered
to engineer bill OF el.3io for e1traa through
tho County Board. provided ho got s34o. in
. no.e or cash in advance. to 10 used
upou tboso embtotns Of v1tuo, the county Co,n-
u,iHaloncrs. -.-
"tho ttory as told by sfr. Herlos Was a l,e.''
:. "Tlion 10 ), you deny tho charger"
"Dut llow do you oxplnin II p
"Wo!t, III tell you. Horieor and i &so old
friends. We aro acquainted tll,n long timo. 1
met him OH tho street yesterday. but / didn't
Bpoak to him."
"Why not ?" ..-..
"Docauao ho had not told tho truth. II you'll
come across Tho way Ill toll you." hlr. bneso
and tho reporter then walked acrosa tho atreot
to = beeS-sAloon, Whcro tue conversation WAS
continued NJ follows
ibid you over toll A1r. Hordet that $30
you'd Tsl, -. .fotch' hta bill through tho County
"No. a}r. met him ono dsy In restaurant
whore no vors both taldng onr dinner.
HE PULLED OUT 4 CERTIFICATE
for extras on tho Studouts' Department, Epgle-
wood, for $3.50: which waa certified to az cor
juat bill, and ought to 10 paid. Shortly hftes,
and whllo no wore discussing the mattor. Mr.
Detrlch, HeEdor's partner, camo In aud sat
down It tho same table. 1io joiuod In tho con-
could not get Just btu rassed; that they had
earned every cent Of the $780,"
"What did you Hay then 7"
~ a1ggostod that they throw OF s3lo."
'Didn't you suggest ti,At amount "a enough
TO carry tho bill through r.
"No. SIR"
Dijnt you ray that you would uork it
through tor TINT amount I"
"Didnt you suggest that a noto OF hand
would answor tho purroae for tho s3loi"
mo. dr.: ! suggested tlat they conld get
their bill through, perhaps: by throwing on
$40, ana might thuH bo ouablod to got another
contract"
"Now, didn't you say That amount would got
tie Commissioners for 30 smalt Jnb?"
"No, Sir; think thay arc h1gheE priced
.'Do you know Comm1s, ionor Hezsing?"
"Yes do. But won, lu't daro 10 propose
anything like bribo to him.
"Do you know Gunnther :'
"Yes he and l are very intiLaate Fl lends"
"Didut you suggest 33lo, or pasi. OF 1t, to
him 2
"No air."
ITO Holden or h1cCarrAy?"
"No, a1r. I toll you mentioned no names.
am not on good terms, POLITICALLY. With the
County Eohrt, and consequently, ha" no iuln-
enco With them. have
HEARD oARnoLL MENTIONED
in this connection, Int had notll1ng Ito do with
htu1."
"Do yon know Commissioner Busse;'"
.u,..: "ies. , slightly; but mover had AT, dealings
"IA ho relative Of yonrs7"
''No, sir. lie In perfect stranger to mo-"
''Thop Won Bay you did not BuggeRt Herdor
Dietrich that thev pay YOU s3lJ. and Tint you
would push their caim by "g.oasiug" Commits
Bionurs?"
aAs told you before COMPATIBILITY no. /
will say further, that anu roa1y to 80 bt foso tho
Grand Jury IN this matter. II necessary.
This ended tho interview. Despite II IA aboyo
denial, hiosHfs. 1tordet d Dietrich do ne recpdo
from t4oir Abatement made In yesterdayta TRln-
UNE.
cAnnot1 WILL DEMAND AN 1HyEsI11& rIoN.
4 TRIBUNE reporter uccidcntaily met G onInlis-
eioner Carroll OH Ca.k street ventordn. aftor-
uoon, whcn tho following interview took place
"Do you reco!ltct tlle speech tnaao 20. to-day
tMonday1 aftoruoon by Commissioner DaHso
touching tho Notder contract in which lo Htated
tlns no was informed by A1r. ilcrder. That Il lie
tuerncr) would g,vo hss no.e for 53io, lis claim
for Sl,3l0 would 10 put through tile Noard p
"ien. WAS prcsei,st and heard tue fomar'ts OF
"Did you read Ia this mornings Tn1nusE m
interview Will, Mr. IIordcr, In Which ho ssAted
that tlle person Who lna1o tho proposition to
have his bill put through. on condition that he
would Elyo his note for a3i0. was ex-Ald. G. 4.
Duaua2"
"No; did not read tha article. but hoard
aom9 Of the boys talk about It,"
"lt is hintod In Hoycsal 4uhrturs TINT yon
stand bohind ox.hll. Dusso III this matter; in
oIhor words. TINT ho represents you. Is that
true?"
"No. rir; 1t ia DOT truo. haro not seen AID.
buAsc for fully alYht months"
"llaYo You oyor employed or solicited any
Eorson to mako any Arrangement with Husac re-
garltng this 1natter?''
"No, air; I have not"
Ibid uuBao evor hnye any interview with you
touching tho matter in question :"
mo. sir, no did not"
" Did 1ny ono over approach you on the SUBJ
tect on behalf Of oither DusBo ur no5der +"
No, cir. I AIN not q meuabor OF tho Conf
nl!ttos TO whom the lnattur w.a roferred."
What ata you Goiug 10 ao nbout 1t p
"At tho meeting Of tho Board Thursday pro-
podo to offer a resolution calling upon Sta.e'A-
Attorney Heed to piacn tho NlAttor before tho
dsau1 Jury ior thorough Investigation"
This terminal tod tho interview.
IN THE ACCOUNT
published Josscrlay of The Efforts Of Contrac-
tors Dcdrsch Il lIurdor to gos thoir bill paid,
tAore wero some slight iuaccuracios which. IL!
Justice to Mr. Horder, should bo corrected. Ilo
noYer said ho had been approached by any Com.
missioner. but only by d nid1loMan, nor has 10
at huy tIrlc withdrawn his Bnit, which NaH ouly
recently instituted. Furthermore. l,e Was not
Superintendent OF tho County Building, but
clerk for Deaktnan. tho contractor for cut.stoue.
and was not III position to know OF ANY rnB.
able 1ascality in tho construction OF tho build