The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-06-08


bonds Of the Union Pacific Railroad Company that Mr.
Spence knew than body else about these lost
bonds, and that he had in his possession memoranda
Nc which would guide the committee In its
the lost bonds. Hence It that Mr. spence was
summoned here first, SO that might see the
memoranda and prepare for the examination
la the meantime was reading-as well as could ID
the multiplicity Of my engageneuts-thc proceedings
Of The Credit Mobcr investigation 70 how far that
committee had gone into this question Of Lost bonds Of
the Union Pacific Railroad Company.
Mr.. Blaine 10 Mr. Ashe-were you present whom
MI Spence was cxaminedy
Mr. Ashe--Spcnce never examined
Mr. Blalne-Therc IS no mistake about Ham, He was
examined on the 4ih OF May.
Mr.. Ashc--Hc examined before that
Mr. Hunton-0n the oath OF April according TO this
stub IN tho book Of the SergeanatArms which pre-
sumo ~ correct, BENJAMIN ". Spence was eommcned.
ITO Mr. Mcguire, witness In The caselwas il ut your
instance that summoned him
Mr. Mcgure-Yes. SIR.
Mr.. Hunton--The summons ran IN the usual way.
signed by the Speaker and atlestsd by the Clerk Mr.
Spence was here several days and We preparing
TO examine into this question o, lost bonds. had
several interviews with Mr.. spence aud Mr. Mcguire
for the purpose Of finding how could conduct the
examination and what Mr. Spence knew about IL Il
WAS determined that we would not examine Mr. spence
At that time Mr. Ham moned mud
BY the suop@na which issued the regular way,
thut benjamin f. Ham OF he office Of the President OF
the Union Pacific Railroad Company Nassau street
New York was ordered appear before the Judiciary
Committee OF the House OF Representatives iorthwith
THIS subpoena lreading rom IL and then handing il to
Mr.. Bane dated tile Grsi day OF May ISL now these
two facts show that before The Tsrbox resolution was
moncd Ny the committee under TIE lutlre resolution.
sxR LySDE's STATEMENT.
Mr.. Lynde--l wish 90 make statement a nv name
has been brought into this matter
Mr.. Biaine--<ot by ney
Mr. Lyndc-No but 10 has been brought In. l will
state that the bay when tho telegram received by
hr Knott Il presume on Thursday, stated Mr..
Knott when he came to the House, said TO me:-eI
have received telegram this morning which
want TO show voun lie took the telegram out
Of his pocket and showed II 10 me and read il
Whether II was Ia this in the room OF the
managers don't recollcct do recolIect who was
present AT the time. There others present re-
marked 70 him when read the telegram This Is not
evidence citbcr before committee a court or any
where, IN the shape that Il comesi
Mr.. Frye-You did not know what kind OF evidence
they verc receiving here.
Mr.. Lynde--f sad 10 Mr.. Knott, at Is necessary
that you should ascertain whether tins despatch
genuine, and you ought Immediately to ascertain
whether Mr. Caldwell Is 10 London where he IS and
whether u IL genuine telegram" That. think,
about all the conversation thai passed between aud
Mr.. Knott al the time. Ny attention called OIL TO
something else. II the telegram had been reply 70
| one sent by Mr. Knott alter the committee had in
structed Mr. Knott TO telegraph 70 CALDWELL The that
II was In reply 90 telegram addressed 10 Caldwell
would have been sufficient my opinion to have In
troduced before the committee a. tsstimony but in
! the shape IN which u was | thought that Mr..