The Daily clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1866-1888, 1876-03-08

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~ DID he peak to YOU on the .uhiact n
that pardon? '00 oh inc s"OJe't O
a. NOT Fight then.
II IN mat interview and conversation
'i' you get the pardon from him
A. Col Gibbs joined us i'm a few minutes
- very lew words were said Col. a. his
b I'M a, ~ 40 mt that time and sined us In
/ is ohice. VIII, after a While Col Mat.
ar, produced the psrdon and said !;
aherT Is pardon for your boy.'' Ia.ked
.iih What he thought about the yalidify of
lhe pardon, He said he did hot know.
haia col. Matthews this is not the thing |
odl gaihed with you for; you We're to pro-
W. WI me pardon from Ames for ST ,250
!" ell slf' SAID he, owing TO the hotel diff
euiey between him ard Governor Ames. the
tnIng was put up in this shape. Well. |
,oiu hlm That was not a thing [ had ever
oargalned for in that shape.
y: NOW state If any thing was said ON the
sup!tct o. your giving any money or dis
posing OF any money in connection with
the receipt OF that pardon?
A: Well, | was dissatisfied in REGARD 70 tbo
pardon, and Matthews remarked thar Won
can satisfy yourself with it or not, iusf as
you see ft, know nothing more about If
~ =. IT'S Vahdlty than you, but if you are salts
fc9 WIN lt you can leave the check with
q. State what you did with the check ,
a, carried this check around TO Mr.
AtWell Johnson, Mai. Bell and Col. Gihbs
all friends of mine.
q Well, Col. Matthews directed Won. if
you became satisfied with the pardon. TO
ieaVe the check for Sl.250 with Col. Gibbs,
did you do that I?
A. Yes, did.
O. Who was the check on? How much
Tor? W no in favor of? And how signed
/ checked on W iliam johnson for $3.50.
payable to Matthews think, endorsed by
AtWell johnson, signed bv A, F. Andrews
for me, by my order
@. Did you 90 home that night?
A. l went home and took the pardon
with me.
Q. You say you subsequently got another
pardon?
A. | did,
Q. What did you do with that?
A. | sent that to my son.
@. Where was your son?
Mr.. Spears objected, and the question was
withdrawn.
Q. Where did you send the pardon for
your son?
A. To South America-that is where in
tended him TO so.
Q How long was it after you got that
first pardon and went home, before you got
the second pardon?
A. | am unable TO tell you.
@, You can form some idea?
~. / could not.
@. Whether it was three months or six
a. No, neither-it was not three months or
six, but / could not tell you the time. 1t
i9ht have been month.
@. Who first suggested this plan Of par
don?
a. Do you mean who first suggested it to
me?
Manager Barksdale: Yes.
A w ell | met Col. GlitbS on the road
above my town: He said he had been to my
house and wished 10 See me. He was in a
buggy and | was on horscb tck.
@. Well, just want to know il in cOnSe
quence OF What Col. Gibbs told you, any
thing was said between you and Col.
Matthews. and ifhe went to you or you
went to him Did you get any message
from Col. Matthews on the subject of that
pardon, in consequence of which you went
to him u?
A. Col. Gibbs told me that Col. Matthews
wanted to see me.
@. Did you go to Matthews
A. went to him and had a talk with
him.
@ Did YOU tell him that Col. Gibbs told
you that he wanted to see you
A. do not know.
O. Was ANYTHING said on the subject of
this pardon at his office, and did you speak
to him first or he to you
A. cannot say.
O. Now state what was said by Col. Gibbs
when he met you
A. When [ met Col. Gibbs, he said Col.
Matthews wanted to see me, in regard to
obtaining a pardon for my son. This was
about Is miles from Columbus, where met
Col. Gibbs, and it might have been in two,
three or four days after | went to Col.
Matthews office l had talk with Col.
Matthews, who told me he thought he could
obtain pardon for my boy for $4,000,
which I refused to give and with that |
Quit. Afterwards he found out that / had
in nv possession (I cannot say who APP
nroached the other ffrst,) had af1idavits of
Rr Munson and Major Hendrcks-I am
NOT positive If had the atfidavits and
carried them to him, or wheth er he came
10 me about them. but when he saw them
he told me he could procure the pardon for
81, $50.
Counsel for the respondent and Manager
Barksdale objected
The question was put TO the Senate and
ruled out by the following vote:
YEAs-M essrS. Albright, CallicOtt, Ever
EFT, Furlong, Gray, Griffin. Mcneil,
Pratt, Shirley, Smith, Stewart, Stone, Terry,
futile, White--15.
Cbalmers. Jewell, FitzGerald, Foote, Gra-
ham. Hooker, Johnston, McCaskin, Men
denhall, Nets, Morgan, Oldham, Reynolds,
Sims, Taylor, Thompson-19.
ABSENT AND NOT VoTING-Senators Al
len. Mcclure and Thornton.
Counsel Morris resumed:
@. What became of the affidavits?
A. do not know.
O. What did you do with them?
A handed them to Matthews.
@. Did you ever see them again?
A. Never
@. These were the certificates of Hen
bricks and MunsOn?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you have any other?
A. Yes
O. Whose was it,
A. Mrs. Tom Yates, think; but am not
certain.
Rv Counsel Spears: You state, Mr.. Bar
rentine. that the first Of these pardons, orig
mated in Col. Gibbs telling you that he
thnnoht Col Matthew's wanted to see You.