The weekly clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1863-1882, 1876-03-15


Q. There were some of his priv. paper
! together with this check ana pardon, when
You handed il TO him?
A. Yes sir.
j z. Did You endorse that papers
A. No, sir.
| q. Why
; A. Because l handed it to him and h..
+ sara he would come back. / was busy an
/ SAM would endorse the draft for him The
/ CLOCK was slow. | started for the tr ia.
L saw that Davis had no5 been IN the office,
/ AID saw the train had gone, aud Davis had
1 gone.
q. Did you have an engagement TO meet
/ him in the Office
A Yes, sir; lac said he was going to din
ner aud would De back.
| z Did he say that in reply TO your prop
osition To endorse the paper.
| A. No, sir.
q. Then he got away without the paper
/ being endorsed!
y. Yes, sir.
Z. Ii it was endorsed, it was endorsed by
| him on your order?
y. Yes, sir; 1 told him 20 collect it.
| q. Did y"u tell him you would collect it
\. No; | authorized him TO collect it.
q. And told him that you would endorse
q Did you read that papers
@ You say you were. retained as al
| agent 10 procure THIS pardon
A. Yes, sir.
z. Who retained you:
A. Davis retained me for Col Matthews,
Who was the attorney for Barrentine. Dd-
Wis brought the message from Matthews 10
me.
@ When did you learn. for the irst time
| that the first pardon had been issued?
A. On that day. | think; the 2lst OF May.
| did not know until after it had been done.
q Did you not know this first pardon
had been issued until you Went into the Sec
retary's office To get the seal and signature
a. No, sir
Q. Did you not swear to the Committee
on came to that knowledge after you were
appointed Private Secretary?
a. No, sir.
O. Was Travis Rhodes Private Secretary
at the time this first pardon was issued?
A. Yes, sir
Q. And he continued to perform the du-
ties up to the 9th OF June?
A. Yes. sir.
p. Did you learn in that interval of the
issuance of the first pardon?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You were appointed as Private Secre.
| tary on the 9th or 10th of June?
A. Yes, sir; 9th, l think.
q. Did you not testify before the Com
mittee, under oath, that the order was for
5000?
a. No, sir; think 1 said Davis paid me
5000
Q. Did you not say the order was for 5000?
A. | think it is in that paper.
q. Did you not read over every word be-
fore you signed it?
A. Yes, sir
O. And it is in that paper that the order
was for 5000.
A. Yes, sir; 1t is there.
q. AT the time the Lieutenant Governor
gave you this money, state il it was $500
and another time 800, whether it was
tor 5000 Did he owe yon anything?
4. No.
Q. Did you owe him anything?
4. No.
Q. Did he ever borrow anything from
you?
A Yes; | have loaned him money.
Q. Did he owe you anything ut that time?
\. No.
(. Y! Yes. gave ~" S0'O "''O7 ''D''
@. $500 at once and another 500 within a
week?
A Yes. sir.
@. What did you do with it?
4. | used it in paying my expenses.
@. You did not deposit 1t anywhere?
A. No, sir.
@. Did you pay any o Davis debts with
it?
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you give any part of it to any body
that he told you TO?
A. No; he haI no control over it after L
received it.
u. GU OepOsl,ei none Oh IL acCJ1HlAS W
his order?
A No, sir.
@, Nor for his use
A. No. sir.
@. You deposited none in the bank
A. No.
Q. Did you pay any of it Quit in this town
A. / do not recOllect.
Q. How long was Davis gone at the time
he went to Columbus and took that draft
with him before his return?
F.r~l,N flav.la dow
Q. You knew nothing of his going Ov er
to Columbus with the first pardon
A. Yes, sir; he went over there.
@. Do you know of his going over there
with it?
A. | do not know if he took it with him
or not he might have mailed it.
@. Well, this second pardon you made out,
did he take it without your knowledge
A. | sealed it and laid it on his desk.
O. How come you to seal it
< put it in an envelope ready for mail
g. Did you stamp it
A. Yes; L think did.
@. Did you address it
4. Yes; to Til os. II. Barrentine.
Q. Where was Barrentine?
y. In Columbus.
O. What time did the mail go out
\. They closed the mail at P. NJ.
@. Did you mail it?
A. No.
O. Did you make 1T ready for mail
4 Yes. [ made it ready for mail. l did
not see HIM take it up.
Q. When Davis lett the office, you knew
he was going to Columbus
A. Yes, sir.
O. Then you gave him that draft to col
lecU
Q. Why did you not give the pardon at
the same time
A. | left it for his choice to mail or not.
@. Did you ask him his choice whether to
I '
A. [ don't think l did. Was it in your
mind that he was going to carry it?
Q. Then why did you address it, and
A So that he could put it in the mail if
| he chose.
Counsel spears Mr.. Packer, what at that
time was vour business in jackson:
| A. i was adjutant-General of the State.
@. Did you ever sit in any part of this
Ii ouse?
A. Yes, sir, was member of the Senate.
Q. Did you have deskP
\. Yes, sir, i'll the Governors Office
@. Did you have access to the papers
there?
A. Yes, sir, have been acting as Private
| Secretary for three or four times.
Q. Did you have access to the office be-
fore the issuance of the pardon:
| A. Yes, sir.
Q. Was it in consequence of that access
that you sought it?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. In regard to this matter the gentlemen
have asked you about your testimony before
the committee in which you stated it was
June, in which you first heard Oi shat par
don, was that IN 6rrorE
a. Ies, sir,
q. When was it2
y. In May the 21st.
Q. They also asked you whether OR not
you did not swear that the first time you
saw any thing about the first pardon, was
when you saw tue record of it when you
become Private Secretary.
| A. | saw it before.
y. Then that was an error of yours?
Yes.