The New York herald., 1876-10-21
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THE MISFORTUNE OF THE DEMooRAcY-BoTH
SIDES HOPEFUL.
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Oct. II, 1876
| As might be expected now that the smoke OF the
late severe political contest has cleared away there Is
TEN porary lu In Ohio politics. and calm words OF
regret satisfaction take the place OF patriotic bull
e.ins and fluffy promises. Thinking an interview
with the men familiar with tho late campaign,
Their reasons why the battle lost won aaJ their
plans for the future might be interesting to Eastern
readers called at democratic headquarters this after
| noon, and made known my wishes TO Hon. John g..
Thompson tho chairman OF the Democratic State
Committed, who found TO be In close conversato
with senator Thurman. After the departure OF tho
latter in answer to an interrogatory as
to what he thought OF the result Of tho
late election in Ohio Mr.. Thompson
remarked, ',Wcl as to that, really never had any
great confidence that should carry the State this
year, so cannot truthiully say am greatly disap
pointed with tho result However my advlces were
such that, with the changes coming to us and with
vote no larger than last year and with the fight we
were making, we had n fair chance OF carrying the
State but, as l said before, was never very san
guno."
'Mr Thompson, you referred TO an Increased vote
Just now How mucn larger was the vote this year
than last?"
but should Judge about 10000 larger than last year
Now Just take the vote OF last Tuesday compare
with that OF last year, and YOU will find it will give the
republicans about the majority they have sot but such
vote year mad last would have given us the
State by small majority"
"To what do you attribute the defeat OF the de-
mocracysn
"Well don't know what othor people think about
1t. but don't think the cry Of crusader made
against Colonel Barnes in tho end particularly helped
II certainly gave Barnes large share Of the demo-
cratic temperance and the butt end OF the proh
bion vote, which would otherwise have been cast for
their own candidate Since the election several demo-
Gratis OF prominence have told me they knew parties
who voted for Barnes temperance who
earnest democrats and who woula vote for Tilden
Then, another thing (but, mind you don't pretend
TO say how It was donc) know that large share OF
the mining vote (Which We supposed, II thero was
anything IN the greenback business, we should get)
went with tho republicans, for the returns show
did not get it. don't know how the republicans got
this VOTE but have idea how tho thing brought
about"
"weu how 1t brought about-it may be mat
ter Of public INTEREST,""
~ or course cannot tell to a certainty, but am In
clincd think the miners vote obtained through
the leaders OF their secret societies. You know the
great influence with members OF their lodges By tho
way speaking OF miners, tho increased Trum
bull, Mahoning Coumbiana, Gall,a Lawrence. Meigs
and Perry all mining counties, shows that the repub
| licans got large share Of their vote"
Snow the question is, Where will these votes 60 next
montha'
"As they say they earnest greenback men,
should, OF course. suppose they would go to Peter
| Cooper Then. another lost the State was
because the republicans had large SUMS of money 10
| use, and, believe me, they used 1t too know
DIDN'T
as the republicans had tho result in the State nigh.
have been different. think people regard the ro-
suit as drawn battle aud that they ready for
victory. Ny correspondents write tha. in their To-
cates there great many men who didn't vote
for Bell who will vote tor Tilden. Our people are
spenddly organized, better certainly than be-
fore, which mus. tell in November BY the way, the
result Hamilton county rather disappointed me, for
friends there told could expect to carry 1t by
500 Tho did well for US but the rural districts
did lar moro tho republicans than supposed they
would"
"what your plans for tho light for this and mex.
month";
.As 10 tho kind Of hght we shall make have no.
yet decided but whatever It is n shall be one,
that promise you In advance. Our people the
kind who give up, and 80 We shall go on with
the expectation OF getting moro votes for Iilden than
we did Tor BelLn
.How do The Ohio democrats feel over tho Indiana
electiony'
They are enthused' by IT, II acts MS sort OF SOL
ace them for losing Ohio
'.Do you think Hayes can bring about sufficient pres
sure carry Indiana next monln2'
mo, sir, Hayes can't carry Indiana Wo have sum-
cien majority there 10 make our people feel that they
have gained splendid victory, and yet their majority
is not largo as to make them forget that they have
another big hght on hand cease thor Efforts Hen
drcks immensely popular there and, his friends
State by good figures they win work ike beavers He
can, undoubtedly, control more votes than Williams
"what Northern States 40 you think Mr. Tiden
carryY'
II am not prophet or son Of a prophet, but my
opiEiou Is that ho surely carry New York, In
DIANA Connecticut and New Jersey with fair chance
OF carrying Wisconsin, California and Oregon. You
will also hnd that people will make a desperate
effort for Michigan and Illinois. As TO Wisconsin,
think we have show OF carrying that State because
they have such a largo German vote, which, you
know is largely for Tilden Then 700, that State you
will remember enthusiastic Tor IIldcns nomi-
nation Michigan settled largely by Eastern peo-
own friends"
Thanking Mr.. Thompson for his courtesy. the
HERALD CORES pondent about to withdraw, when
he sighted Senator Thurman passing tho door To
third coat button and present his wants took
bat a moment. and then occurred tho following
SENATOR THURMAN
'W you consent TO short interview on the polisi-
cal situation, Mr. Senatorfn
..Interviow. interview Oil Ny God, mol" and the
Senator walked on br,skly, with his cane IN one hand
ami his familiar bandanna kerchei in the other.
On the way up High street the HERALD man met
GOVERNOR
taking his evening walk, with his son Webb. The
COOL fresh air had frightened tho Governors usually
fresh complexion, he walked along In his hrni,
manly way, swinging bis arm as vely Ms school boy,
II easy that possible prospective heavy cares
OF State wcrc not weighing very heavily upon him.
After jolly How do you do ~ and firm han dshaking
that imprcsses you that man 10 telling tno trutn
when he no Is glad TO you, the Governor, u
response TO question as TO how he felt, remarked,
IAN right; hrst rate
We'll Governor. you must feel confident OF the ro-
suit in November Tor your appearance does not indi
that you are losing much sleep over the night"
II certainly do not worry the future, but that
doesn't signify anything make 1t point to worry
very i,tc over anything, but guess wo all rgh.
| Good day.
pEFEATgD DISCOURAGED.
| The next objective point State Department,
| whose mead Hon William Bell, the recently de-
teaied candidate for Secretary OF state Mr. Bell
as hearty usual IN his welcome and was ready 10
talk about matters political or soctablo.