Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1876-11-22


70 general committed
= tl, 10 amend section g. chapter 81, e. g.. re-
nlllng 20 ihe collection u taxes ~ committee oi
s l0s amending section u, chapter rs. g.s re
general committee
n, , II In addition TO an act approved November
slst ls'u' authorizing ON engraved testimonial
ior vermont soldiers To com. on military affairs
- Nv 70 amend section ~, chapter u, x e.
cation
> us IN construction Of an act relating to Zee,
~i memhefs " the general assembly, approved
means
;. ll9. In amendment Of section 7, chapter 100
X - renting % crimes and punshments. aud fol
"V,er purposes; To committee on judiciary.
hi"H.-from committee ON grand list against
fused
From committee on claims. against H. ilG. t.
EN the town " lawlct the sum therein named
thifd reading refused
FROM committee on grand list against II a..
IN amendment Of SECTIONS Island 80 chapter ~. z
fused
From committee on claims. In favor Of H. los
10 appropriate sum Of money to pay for the pub.
h,"iiuh aud distribution Of digest Of the reports
OF the supreme Court Of this state, with pfopo-
,Hls or amendment, making the order payable Ia
i'nle Roberts, the sum " 5000. and pro, iding
,at ioui hundred copies shall first be delivered to
the state Librarian, which amendments were
agreed %, aud the bill was read third time and
passed
From the committee on grand list In favor OF
~ ~, a. legaIiye the lists ~ the town " barre
ior tne year 1874, 1870 and 1876; with proposals.
on amendment which were agreed tl. and BID
read third time and PASSED
Fii' ADAMS OF Euosbufgh, called np II di7,
laying TAX on the county Of franklin and the
niii va. read the third time and passed
q q NH..aN
relating o. the grand list reported by the commit
tee o. substitute for H. 2l1 aud the bill was Of
dered to third reading
Mr. MARTIN Of Londonderry, called up II .. 10
amend section ~ chapter ~, g - relating to taf-
hc in intoxicating drinks; the question heinz on
the amendment proposed hy the committee. %
strike ont the words " aud shall also be- imlris-
oned In the county jail not less than one month
nor mote Than two months" Tor the first OF ense
Mr. PECK OF Ira opposed the amendment on
the ground that simple fine would not suppress
the tatic in Intoxicating drinks. that appeals are
taken from justice courts TO the county court and
by delays prevent the enforcement " the law
that COM iction can not be had for second Of.
fence ~ long as The frt offence is pending Ia the
courts. lie believed this provision was n good
one, and necessary Tor the successful enforcement
81 The prov siuns ui the law against selling iutoXi-
eating drinks. and that 10 could be- enforced lie
cited The law of Maine a. being much more strin-
gent Than our own law. and ninch more efficient
In supprcssiug the traffic
Mr.. CllAMBEBl.lN of Sharon said Doc had had
occasion a. witness the evils Of rum 81 Ling and
rum drinking under circumstances where LAWYERS
did not witness thom.-ln the home of the moor
and unfortunate inehriate. lie was opposed 10
the amendment and in favor Of the bill
MT EATON said me was opposed To- TIE hiil and
moved the bin be dismissed
Mr.. MARTIN Of Londonderry said tie bin A.
originally introduced provided for imprisonment
Tor the hra offence the committee propose to
amend 20 as 10 provide imprisonment for the
second offence lie believed IL We make the
penalty imprisonment for the first offence il will
be more difficult to enforce the law than il we
adopt the amendment proposed by the committee
lie thought the severity of the penalty led iurors
In I've reluctant in tie conviction Of men for the
olation Of the provisions Of the liquor law, when
y the penalty was not $50 severe there would be
ess uncertainty Of conviction
Mr.. LORD Of Chittenden -ad we are tender
about the penalties inflicted on the rnmscller.
when we inict severe penalties upon men who
30 far less damage TO communities lie then
referred TO the large costs Of courts our poor
houses, our insane asylum. mostly ocfasinned bv
HE rumsellers He would have the bill amended
10 a. a. provide fine Of 500 and six months inn
Drsunment for the first offence, and forthe second
iiience he would fine the seller II OO0 and one
year In state prison
Mt OLMSIEAD Of T0wnshend regretted the
notion 10 dismiss, as it carried with it the idea
hat IL was unworthy Of consideration. lie was
10 favor Of trying the experiment Of impfison-
neut for the first ofiense, and give those who
hnk it would render the bill more efficient an
opportunity TO try it. lie did not believe the pres
mt penalties were such a to induce men TO per
lure themselves 10 screen the guilty ones from
punishment but rather that public sentiment was
not sufficiently awake TO the necessity Of sustain
ne the officers in the enforcement of the law. II
he sale Of liquors is wrong, why not put such
penalties npon the sale rs will punish the offend
'fs2 II the sale j. right then we better repeal the
aw against IT, laws similar 10 this are enforced
n other states, and he thought we could enforce
[ in Vermont and he wanted an opportunity 10
ny it, Instead Of the penalty being too serere. it
nay be that the penalty is not sufficiently severe
md thus not enough OF terror to the voators OF
his law. II the law against selling liquors j. |
ight let NJ atiN to penalty sufficiently severe
% deter men from violating the law. He believed |
he prohbtory law a wholesome law, and the
'iolation Of the law is crime Of great magnitude
more henious than that Of the violation of al |
most any other law on our statute books. II
nan wliully steals from his neighbor he j.
handed as thief for life; but il he sells my
Mid intoxicating drinks he is doing that which
worse in its effects than the mere theft Of few
iatry dollars-he does that which Is likely TO de
troy my child for this world and the neat lie |
wanted q vote on the bill, on a square vote and |
lot shun the question by Diminishing it,
Mr. ADAMS Of Enosburgh said he looked npon |
Ms matter from more serious aspect than from |
moneyed view Of H. and cited a case Of great |
ardshp TO a poor oppressed mother with a |
nd water rather than TO be tied 10 q drunken
husband
Mr. CLARK Of stockhridge said we should not
brink from making laws for fear of laws not be-
ng enforced, but let Us put proper laws on the |
tatute book, and then see that they are enforced
Mr. EATON Of Danyille withdrew his motion
o dismiss, not because his opinions were changed |
: he was opposed 10 the law
MIR >PALDlNG of Barre said We have q rum-shop |
Ia place boys are enticed into the shnp and made
TUukHu. II "A Fsligpft al !
umb animals are poisoned, we send the offender
b state prison. lie thought it graver offence 10
Olson our boys and Young men than 10 poison
mr. domestic animals, and he was ia favor of a |
enalty equal 10 the oifense. The largest proper
ion Of the crimes and of poverty in the state re-
alt from the sale Of intoxicating drinks and
here seemed To be lack Of consistency in allow
ng so much rum selling. causing 50 much misery
n the state, and we should afliX such penalty a.
Tould prevent the traffic
Mr.. BURNAP Of Calais said it was an easy
natter for man 10 pay SO or 20 line for the
rst and second oltense, and 90 right along about
is business but seldom If ever do we hear OF
onvicton for third oifense. II nearly all our
murders are committed under the influence OF
rink, let Us put a penalty upon the sale oil
Quors that will prevent their sale
Mr. MARTIN OF Londonderry said that in the
experience Of lawyers it is found that il is when
he violator of the law is trying to extricate
imself from the penalty Of Imprisonment, that
witnesses and jurors will perjure themselves and
urors will bring In verdict for the first and
econd offenscs and screen the offender from
be penalty of Imprisonment lie said he WAS
wiling to try the experiment Of imprisonment for
he second oilcnse; but he thought it not well 10
o further than that at this time II imprisuli-
lent for the inst ofiense would deter men from
cling rum. he would heartily say mes to the pro
ision; bat he did not believe that such would be
he effect Of such law It would be more din
ult to convict rum-seller than II we make the
enalty imprisonment for the second oilense
Mr.. BLAKE Of Barton, said the trouble now l.
finding man guilty Of the Hiird otfcnse We
an easily tell whether there is an offense, and Is
e mprison for the first offense, he will be more
fear OF the penalty than If he has q chance 10
nm clear Of Imprisonment fort the frst aud second
nense, and never reach the third ofiense. Let
5 shut up the rum shops az once, and not permit
ne evils resulting from them There is work
nough To be done In the state, and let those who
re now violating the law by selling liquor turn
ieir hand 10 some legitimate employment
MIR ADAMS Of Euosburgh further briefly IA
nred the bill.
ON motion of Mr.. EVANS OF Moretown, adj
House-Afternoon.
Senate BIZ Rcferred-S. 80, TO establish courts
insolvency, and TO provide for the equal dstIi-
ntion of the effects OF insolyent debtors to COM
ttee on judiciary.
Rports--from committee on game and fisher
= ia favor of II. aj2, 10 amend an act approved
Oyember -, 1874, entitled an act regulating the |
pture Of fish aud game.
Prom committee ON education, In favor Of 5. "A,
amend sections and OF an act relating TO
wn and district system of schools third reading
dered.