New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1876-01-03


create This idea Of the moral relationships of eyolu-
but TGr T aSoh po'Oei the minds Which first per-
ceiyed it was the Keen searching subtle tie. mind mind
stands nobody aroun' him TO mako him afraid oc
cupies perhaps a, u position position lie so,s
that the stanleys originated with tho gypsy
tribe There Is gypy family calling i1,eli stanley sdSn
a disposition to range through The Old forests
Of nd TO go aeans o ypss hnp Tie old
Dean was the first 10 sally out INTO the ,, wo ORR,
Society for tho Prevention Of Cruelty 20 Animals and
through the whole animal tribe. and found that
they possessed the keenness. the prudence te ehue
ness Oh man h IN tner sert I w Which 1 sorrow even
breaking. could find greater example Ot DeuliuI
affection than That Of the hen gathering her oroou ui
lie was artistic in preaching this evolution sermon
no artistic in decorating 1t here ana thefe WIN
sacred phrazes that believe II he had gone on t9
any extent in atheism tho congregation Mouu
hayed declared that IL was great good to hear shcn
man lie seems To have power of preceding unto the
people that, when 1t reaches Them II turns INTO orho
Another man who has more slowly, but still very
clearly prcceyed the bearing OF religion ON evolution IN
such sense has been the great thinker lbomas Mlrt-
not / remember about tho same time when
the Dean of Westminster was sleaking IN
this way. about evolution, bow Inotna ,s
Bartine spoke OF it almost IN despair Ten years passed
and l heard the same thing that he used to dcpore
uttered from his own lips, and now, when lar11t nau
TO criticse Tynda found that he had taken mp the doc
rne of evolution which he had once arod and had punt
mp bis fortress upon 1t from when To eielse yiiuaa,
We have again and again g2rd that the Immortal throne
in the time of Calico, and when Isaac Newton
declared his theory OF gayiaton he was declared 10 DO
Lcrutic ard his dOctne n at the basis OF tneism
am now disposed before saying any thhg ut =, III
conclusion, generalization of the facts that nave
tried state, am disposed To respond To any sng'
gestiOn concerning the points that nave Deeh laseu VI
concerning the men 10 whom hayereIerod as 10 uc va
attitudes these subjects to their relation 20 the
themes, or to any point tIat my DC que, ~ 10
gard 10 those things ihat nave been stated III mas DtSn
Tor many years my privilege ard high honor To study
und,r tho mon 10 "nom nave been referring ana TO
study the subjects with gfeal doa ot dra"r
indeed and very proud If in New-YorE ailer
any long residence in London, should bo able TO state
familiar with these men whom believe be great
believe tuom TO bc men aspiring only aitcr lrulh-en
views. would make this lecture conversational aud
solicit questions points that might be OF interest TO
TIE DISCUSSION.
In accordance with Nj COuways request some pcr'on
in g. audience asked whether the system Of scientific
schools on tho sabbath for workingmcn had sue
ceedod. Tho lecturer replied that the system
had not been carried into practical operation.
Tho schools were so liable 10 DO interrupted
and tho workngnen who attended them TO b. persecu
ted by their employers that they were carried On
secretly. The great museums Of England had not been
thrown open 10 the poor working people on Suhday
John Ruskm. Dr. CARPENTER, aud otncr excellent men
desired to take classic Of workmen through inc
British and kensingon Museums AMI explain the Objects
To them gratutousy. but such at present was the con
dton OF the public mind on the subject Of tho sabbath
IN England that 1t had been impossible 10 gam tho con
:, nj OF the Government Ia ~.
Another gentleman wished to know something about
the influence Of poHt0nt school III London. ~" toh
way said IA reply hat the members OF TINS Schoo-Co
grove Harrison, Dr. Bridges aud others-con'titted
a set OF men whose influence III pul.l
ical sense was very large think continued
Mr.. Conway. THAT in a religious sense and
sense, Cnmiism has nol hhd an
adequate influence on the thought Of the people
Cointisn IL as complete IN lis forms as roman Dt'hG
does consent to measure the fiuidy OF the a-e OF
thing IN politics and religion. But II sun
has great speakers ike ConGcye, whose
Tue next question asked wa "hcthsr h9inro was
possessed OF personal individuality 81 VIII ana Thought
would Ice rash for NE To say that consider ma
tuio to possess inuiNlduait! VIII ana Thought.
" IN tie pocn.idy ~ mIhIihat nature mlhi every,
where DO tr,sig,Td VAN ,S Sn t sfns '. oS %,
The same qucstiOner asked whether mature could give
VIII, thought, PERSONALITY, ihaiWdHiaNJ, when
It has not I haly e nan ro,opet.p 10 ' ps% S,'
that question and do not feel disposed
nor comuetcns to gave to thus audience ANYTHING liz" ai
eXplluaiion 81 natue and a. To INC po'euih!y ol M
tuic courss that mat seems to me to be Ia tho region
some one aard why the writings OF John Stuart MIL
religions subjects rad not bcou published hc,orc BIS
lates 10 Mr. John Stuart Mil, whom had the
pleasure OF knowing for twelve years. and
Win wnOm have had a great many CONVEX salons ON
matters relating to philosophy and religion Mr.. Mill al
WAYS intended. ANA nave heard him s ~ otEcrs have
sion Of his THESE points, but there bad b cn
great pressure brought 10 bear upon hn to attend 10
iio did not leave request that these booEs
should not be published until after his death
aud when ho was dying De- said Publish those BOOKS"
But II was unfortunate Tor Mr.. NH IN iIany
in questions OF political economy, ami Lad
been gong through TWO very heavy political
tnvasscs To- gct seat IN the Parliament at time wDcu
he would have been studying evolution 80, tn,rioit
we nud here mind struggling with questions Of the
solved. ami unfortunately without MS kn1w!c,Se
A gentleman wished To know whether OF not the poet
yanced scientific thinkers OF England. Mr. Conway an
Tunuyson, wGom l have tie 1lonor Of know
ips 4, entirely In sympathy with the
T,e thought OF England. 1t was uo Who founded
Radical Cb or thr Philosophical Club 10 b. generally
called The Club was formed ior the purpose OF drawing
fnr,iIrr influential men who held different opinions
While SIR. 1cnIysOn las been present ~ a grcut
many Of these meetings, theio has been great
t,nn1nt of friendship displayed between the
thinkers undoubtedly due IN Large measure u Mr. Ten
project OF TINS club IT has been very ffuitiu
club bu Mr Tonny sou, while lac has very tender emo
lions is entirely Tree from the supcrstOns Of his age
Ibe next question was. How lar docs Dean Stanley
represent the thought Oi the English church T. To tns
an Conway answered. " Dean stanley Is the representa-
ycauu thinking head of tho Broad Church party lie be
cycs that gradually the crceds and the iOmuia7 OF the
English church muy be reduced 10 simpler method that
the crccds viii be sung, aud the hturgles hndTaycb VII
brTadualy reduced and that gradually the Ola prIs "i
the Cnircn will pass away aud II Will be MED with the
breath Of new iie Bat nc VII hardly sos tho rca%Aoh
ENGLISH VIEW OF COD.
In answer TO questions about The English scientific
view OF God and OF the Immortality Of the SOUL Mr..
Conway spoke substantially as follows: Tic views
of Matthew Arnold most widely express the pres
ent phase OF tho Lnglish scientific mind on re
gious questions. aud that - tnat there Is no power IN
the human mind 10 pcrsUnify GOd-that the human
mind cannot comprehend God. scientific men feel that
there - sOmoining 10 say Tor tho feeling that
thcro is griyitaton in nature To tue better
and the bcs'. Progress Is never backward. TO
grvtatiOn OF things nas been all along away from iho
small to grand away from tho rude Ia the refined,
away from the savage 10 tile civilized, away
from the ferocOus and nard To the refined and noble.
And about the Immortality OF e soul although science
admits that 10 has Gear word 10 say about ln,yld