New-York tribune., 1876-03-14

10 Withdraw. Since hearing the resolution all
mus see chat Is not matter on which We need de.
hberato long Most OF Vs., II not every one. at
the church and heard the exposition of the proceedings
and left nothing untouched. This preamble and resou
ton cover tho position that was given as night II Is
not question to what shall do in the future. II Il
simply lifting mp the protest of the Church ot the Pl-
grns AGAINST the proceedings OF the Council recently
held Ia this city II seems that there Is no occasion Tor
further delibention upon them We can dec Do tonight
cpies ald down by that Council or not wonld most
gladly sec these resolutions In print, ana came mere
hoping that thero would be motion offered and cont
mtee appointed have the address delivered last night
put 10 print aud circulated not only among TIE members
large. That address plainly pointed out the errors and
mst1kca, and the wrOnss done to Congregatonlism by
ths recent council that is necessary foi tins church 10
define Its position on the question:
THE DIVERSITY OF OPINION DEVELOPED.
Mr.. Wsterman-It Ia well known to every one that
there are critical times In the lives Of churches, and In
those critical times there must be leaders Ny heart
burns within to think that should be discussing
here questions which our pastor has given light upon
last evening and say for that IL for 80 he
has led thi church. aud we come here to discuss tlg
ourselves shall follow his leadership to the emu zap
pausc
Dr. siorrs In an updOrtono. "I decline the RESPONSE
blty."
Mr. woodruf-when this resolution was offered II
struck me very unavorably but the ore have thought
OF II the more have thought IL wise 90 adopt IT, or
a. eas, haEs vote upon It, perceive there IS 10 pe
extremely anxious that this church should be
unit when II dp SSs act 6 ,csys sSSqd bdEs aSs % az
5 vote ,, thft m the!s Is ,b y nTs
pSd L VII n hen Iso%o 20 question Of ns very serious
doubt whether ought 10 rush to the conclusion which
yorha' anticipated when these resolutions were
first ead. therefore hope the quest will be put,
and that those who favor that question and desire to dis
cuss i-and especially that first resolution which seems
rather to put tins chatch In aniagoni:m to other
churches by declaring itself unwilling to submit and in
some sense Independent OF the churches whch may sur
round us and meet US In the uure-may have an Oppor
Mr., Dayenport-I wlsh Sir, to make protest against
being told by member Of this church that when the
pastor has led us for 80 years. ought 20 bo ashamed
OF ourselves for discussing question he has declared
himself on. That, Sir, is Roman Catholicism, and tho
honor iny pastor as much as anybody, but don't be
lieye IN giving up private opinion tor any man, AMI
don't iAo such things to DO said Ia Congregational
Mr.. Waterman don't believs in any persons follow
INK another opinion without careful investigation, ana
If any thought meant what ha been sggestod 1t IL
mistake | mean to say this that "hen an eminent
not far wrong II we follow hi. Judgment.
Dwight Johnson-I hope this amendment Will not be
sons given as night why tna Council has not proceeded
aecofdinS to the rIes q dney 9tted
IS Congegatonasm, then This church never has been
Congregational Church. l hope there viii be very
Ex-Judge Birdseye-I would like to say word on this
question OF pG3Ponement appeal TO you not TO throw
tns element OF discussion into the mist Of the menbes
OF the church for two weeks, that we may be ohDled
ed TO- and par 9S got up IN o ,s ncon G6rG .9s Se
neps m g6n,. n;or.ad are IN qshsor s. smendnsSt
have had before for nearly month the result Of
the Counc take 1t graused that every member OF
this church Gvled himself or herself ut the rliest
possible moment Of the opportunity of obtaining that
result aud cOnsideringt carefully deliberately prayer
mly. For one am ready to say protest and TO say
further that my continuance in the Congregational
Church depends upon the Tact whether our proest Is
responded by other Congregational churches throuSn
Cat the country l want the protest to DO made and
made now.
Mr.. VAN COTT's VIEWS.
Mr.. Van Cott-I wish to state the three propositions
which before the meeting IN respect TO the question
a. zEp1 Oue
to generze thcmone proposition Ia that the Advisory
Council framed certain principles which arc enumerated
and specified in tho preamble The second question is
A&TS Am the prncRes 20 rH HIied ia s n0dnpsfanS
f. end wl you protest against the whole matter SUB,
nited Ia the preamble aud res buttons in this meeting
Now Mr.. Moderator, pOstponement IL asked IL Is said
brethren are not prepared 10 vote upon the ques
Did the Councl frame those ,principos. as 1ho
preamble. framed theml Don't they Enowf DIDN'T
the ,hs' c%dgSc % did did franc frame T. those D principles
know that they framed toe principles FOR nave them ~
anibe, and know that the preamble Is almost literal
transcript certainly Transcript, OF the pl
rcd can know after ey have read the result whether
principles framed by that council or not. Aud
object to taxing mol mon ,t 70 La Ci in TnsiSr e n
aplble is substantially Identical IEe other question ls
Are those principles Congregational law ~ We under
stand Congregational Law aud The venerable usage Of the
congregational Church Do tue gentlemen want fort
Hgnt 10 find out that tho gentlemen who Thought tat
tney want fortnight to lind out whether 1t was
tIue insplrationi DO they want to go To
.e .ocs O' ~ & o sbcr There @ ia 1rm"ny or dsa
geemenil Now. Mr. Moderator should suppose, AFTER
in our midst those who feel any interest in the
subject must have mado mp their miIGs upon the SUD
cip.e- de lartd by tha, Council accord vita the
ancient cstab shed ~ the Congregational Church
Aud you don't know, don't want To take fortnight
Alter Mr Van COtt'- remarks the question was called
for the motion To postpone. Ihs motion was lost
there being only % votes in the negative.
TAXING THE VOTES.
Dr. storrs then read first part Of the preamble, and
upon the question being put II declared adopted.
The part Of the preamble sl.o put and car
iicd when Mr.. Hatch said They are laborng under
mistakes they voting that the Council did not hhrm
d. storrs- suppose tho question ia being taken now,
Tb 81 I'm 5th Gth and 18th numbered clauses of the
presmbies then put TO vote and carried, a few
Alter ths reading Of the first resolution, Judge Van
Colt SAID: hope that rising yote VIII DC taken on
Mr. woodruR-Are these questions not debatabe as We
Dr storrs-Then this question comes to DO put upon
the entire paper will be debate; not now.
Mr. WoodruG-These votes arc contrary to o." eonVic
DR. storrs-I am obeyng tho direction of the Church.
lhe question WIN pe VI ,Io 10 o,.,n me hos
o. course the Moderator Las no Interest o de-
Dr. etorrs then read again the resolution. When he
had finished Mr. Woodruff said: This seems to oc an
importgu one. We spe there division here IN the
urch and we are likely 10 before tho world as q
divided church II does seem to me that tho occasion
so a that we had better meet every evening here ior
fortnight and debate the subject than take on action
which should forever regret / do hope that as
cison will piace. There have bcen illusions made
taat the recent Council h8s subvertei the Council
OF 1874. shdtt we examine that question: Hheh the
MODERATOR OF both these assemblies were one ara me
same person and fully deC.ar his sentiments Nhy
not pause and deliberate and take upthe queStl0ns
and say prepared not 10 declare ourselves
independent O' COngTo satOualis as II exists around MS
decisions of councils contradictory