The New York herald., 1876-11-16


'oh. believe they VIII exercise good moral info.
upon the canysssers snd make Them tinorous OF
perpelrang frauds boldly and brazcnly they other
wise might IA shss country have observed that
men do their duiy best when they well watched
aud so this surveillance may morally affect the
vassers ~ | say; but fear viii have virtually
less effect Tor the returns my opinion,
were figured out by the republican Board before
Grant or KelIosg invited public scrutiny In South
Carolina the matter has been brought before the
Supreme Court, see, and draw good Suxuriss iom
that Tor thero one OF the Judges sir. Willard. who
was a New Yors lawyer, and who was remarkable ,of
his upright and honorable conduci while no practised
here unless he has been wonderfully changed he VIII
countenance no fraud"
Mr. shafer then went on TO dcpore the denemens
OF the suffrage With fraudulent practices This Is
time" said he, 'whcn people want TO DO sreated
iarly and imposed upon The vote OF tho citizen
is tho podge OF his security, and he will not aey
subnt TO seeing II tampered with Depend upon y
there is nothing "a clean ballot box aud tbs
bayonet A false ballot box means revolution"
Mi. AARON j. vANDKRPOEL,
OF the firm OF vnndorpoel, Groen aud Cunning had not
looked closely into the matter OF the investigations
into the alleged frauds but with reference TO the mat
tcrs connected with the electors in Vermont and
Oregon. who said to havc held Office as post.
masters until after the election day, and whose resg
nations had reported accepted he thought ths
ballots cast Tor those electors were void that the APP
pontment OF ecctor comcs from the people, and ths
manner OF asccrtaning and OF declaring tho vote has
nothing whatever 10 do with tho appointment Take,
Tor instance, which the canvassipg board or
the public authorities announces the election OF cor
tain person. tho validity OF that choice depends. not
upon the board OF canvassers or upon the local au-
thortles, but the law goes back OF tho ministerial
dulies the canvassers to tho votes that actu
ally cast The matter OF dispute IN the choice OF the
electors IN Vermont and Oregon comes up squnrey IN
tho present emergency and OF course invites the at
tenton Of lawyers generally. Tho whole point Of tho
matter ~ that the cast for any elector who Is
known to be ineligible should be thrown out; and IN
such thsre IS vacancy when another person,
who eligible has received The next highest number
OF votes on the oppostion ticket
UNITED STATES COMMISSIONER FIrcH's vIRws.
United States Commissioner and Register In Bank
ruptcy. John Fitch, gave expression TO the following
sentiments on the political situation TO HERALD rc-
porter yestcrday:-
Thc people of the North do not understand the feel
ing OF the South--ther spirit or their determination
to win in this Tho people OF tho South as
much determined in the matter of tho lost cause
ever They organized than before tho rebel
lion, and they rs bold, bravo and determined
people ever tho sun shonc on. Young men
uro brought up to hale the North. They are
united and have, by means OF their secret societies.
White Leagues Ku Klux and Rro clubs-gottcn
together a better military organization thar they
ever had. They better prepared 10 20 out
Of the Union now than they were before the
war; They have debts that thoy would pay. They
arc now heavily indebted to the North, but these
had before the rebellion. They have immense COT
ton crop and havo good crops generally. Tho North
has built repaired and put in operation hundreds and
hundreds OF miles OF railroads in tho South. they
have provisions ana It Is made point by every youn
man have brooch loading gun, plenty o lmmuntios
and also one OF the best rsvolvcrs With tho expert
ence the southern officers and with the determina.
tion OF Southern men, would be very dinicuk oEa
united North to pus them down should they again AZ.
tempt to seccde.
consent TO furnish tho money to put down robcon;
because N We aro to have wnr tory ten or fifteen
years neither wc nor any other NATION could SnAId 70
pay expense II is doubtful II We can again havO
a united North. The German element, SO very
strong IN the republican party, went over.
In this election not account OF political principles
but chioy by reason OF the temperance crusades IN
the Western Statcs Tho democrats have constantly
brought that before thcm, and Mr. idcn adroitya vi.
luded In his letter OF acceptance In regard TO sub
sldlary laws Tue German vote IN tho State oil New
York fully 1875 00o o, which the hall was here
toiore republican. In fact, nearly all the Weli.to-d0
Germans active republicans. Il is now said that
election who had always previously voted the repub-
lcan ticket As IL Is claimed here in New YORK that
thousands OF democrats voted for republicans and aa
this State was heretofore largely republican when
everybody voted, tho German vote has made jhe
change, ana is the tear OF trouble and the sar that
Tioen may be elected which has caused the suspen
sion OF business tho election. The repubcsns
have unquestionably underraed Mr. fildsn's abilities,
especially politician. think he Is the equal 10
ali respects. OF Aaron Burr, and cs'sAinly Mr. Burr
th. greatest politician this State mas ever pro-
| ducedn
.Do you think, Mr. F,tch,n queriod tho reporter.
.sthat any serious result would follow disagreement
tho respective statements make by the delegations
who have gone South % be present ss the counting Of
al dread anything that may arise from such dis
crepancy the reports you speak OF. think such
variance would produce most dretul consequences
will say furthermore that the men selected ~ Pres
dent are md ns msn wno 10 On the
democratic SIDE most OF them, are men whose cnarac-
tcrs havc been spersed by the newspapcrs That II
duplicate returns and II should come 10 this,
that tho President Of the senate. who now, under the
constitution has sole and exclusive right to declare
who is the President OF the United states, shouk
declare Mr.. Hayes elected, and tho House =
| Representatives, with iss eghty-three rebs
20 asn no shs es
Chief Justice Waite swearing in Mr. Hayes, and ethes
Chief Justice Clifford Field swearing in Mr.. Tildent
then, say, could foreseo the extcnt OF bood
shed that would occur Civil war would then bc upon
us and tho south could lcavo tho Union unmocsted,
up thor separate and leave the United
States to light IL out between Hayes and Tden. Our
cities would then bc subject 10 riots and tho worst
passions Of sneu would become excited the resui.
vaults the sackng OF private houses for punder and
she scenes Of PARIS rcenactcd Values aud securities
would fall and gold and silver reach fabulous prices,
thcy did during tho war"
s'ro winch party do you think tho doubtful States
have gwen their mujoritcsY"
"Thero il . negro majority In South Carolina Of
40 900 every whto man in the State and also OF
$4,000 IN tho s,nte Of Louisiana lhe emigration Of
years has been vory great. tho negroes having been
deprived OF their legal rights IN Georgia. having gone
10 Florida to seek a home whero shelter Will be
afforded them. This makes Florida largely repub-
lcan, negro would no moro vote the democratic
ticket than an Irish Catholic would republican
ticket IL Is Idle to say that tho negroes voluntarily
voted democrats chos or tho thrce States, and
therefore, Is Idle to claim that either has gone demo
cratic hope for tho best that all three have gont
republican and that Sir. Hayes electors will DO 70
turned, and that Mr. Hayes will DO duly elected ant
sworn in without serious disturbance.
tncton OF party are fearful as to the result and bas
a. would be tho effect OF Tdcn's election upon the
country, tho republicans would rather have Tildeu
elected than encounter tho ncipcnt stages OF re.
bcion or, worse than all, civil war, and that the
great mass OF democrats having properly would &C
qucsce the election oi Haycs for tho reason.
Men see and feel that . crisis ID impending. Should
dispute either OF the three doubtful States
the democrats violence and prevent . legal and
proper OF votes, or claim that either - I'm
properly given 10 Hayes thus producing tho disagree