The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-08-29

plete reform In every branch Of the government Nov
say this deliberately with full knowledge OF Governor
Tldens record and character and mean every word
OF IL"
CoRREspoypxSr-And what sort Of an administration
would IN your Judgment, Governor Hayes give usr
Governor BgpLE-it would be Grantism over again.
and that's all IL would be the same shop with new
figure. That's what ~ would amount To.
CoRREsPoSDENT-Do you really believe, Governor,
that there has much fraud and rascalty under
General Grants administration as has been alleged by
his enemiesY
Governor BEpLE-speaking quite dspassionatey and
IN no way as partisan cannot doubt that there has
been vast of fraud and pervcrsion Of public
funds during the present admnstratic A. also beevc
thal'mueh as the democratic House has brought TO
lght s more has concealed and will only be de-
veoped # democratic administration seizes the
re,ns of power do not believe that General Grant
personally is dishonest man, but believe that he
has been surrounded by dishonest men, aud that he
has oiten-athough perhaps only out OF friendship
tolerated and promoted frauds ana abuses instead Of
HAYES REspoNsIBlliry FOR GRANT
CoRREsrosDxxr-But may 1t not fairly DO asked,
Governor why should Governor hayes be held respon-
sble Tor General Grants faults or shortcomingss
Governor BEoLE-Well The same men Who have
controlled Grants admin sration are those who arc
chiefly charge of Governor Hayes canvass. and who,
If thoy elect m viii undoubtedly retain their power
, and influence What reform you expect, for in
stance when man like Jack Chandler Is Hayes prin-
cpal manager? think all this is the more Important
a administrative reform is undoubtedly tho great
CoYRIspospENr-Do you think many republicans
and and Independents Will vote for TiIden, Governor.
feeling among republicans which greatly encourae s
the hope OF Tilden's victory. was u week up IN
Saratoga. where conversed with great many men oil
both parties. found among republicans two classes Que
Class would say, 'Wel, you may eject liiden: IL $
quite possiblc; and another '.we, now is your
chance democrats don't care II you do elect Tilden.
These republicans men who DO not care so mach
about 'her party allegiance as they do tor The welfare
NEW JERSEY FOR rlLpEx.
CoRRrsroSDESr-liow is New Jersey going in Noyem-
Der, Governor
Ittti, Jcu,,,I a Cfao
will 20 for Governor Tidcn The democratic canvass here
Is carried on with vgor, and every pg looks highiy
favorable. vi many OF uswouid have liked TO
have seen Joel Parker put ia nomination at ST. Louis
hut upon the whole consiier that Governor lden 5
nomination the wsest that could have been made
had put him forward as the preemnent
candidate OF 20 nj government and reform
CoRREsPoNDEsT-Who IN your opinion. would have
been iidens strongest opponent on tho republican
tickctf
Governor BEpLr--I am OF the opinion that the Re-
publican Convention at Cincinnati showed great Wis
dom IN nominating Hayes He will make a better
VASES than any other OF their candidates could have
made because ne has reconcied the various opposing
factions OF the party. Blaine who came so near being
nominated, would have been very easily beaten-much
more easily than Hayes.
CoRREsPoSDEXT-How does it look to you in New
York;
Governor BEpLE-I think the democrats ought to
carry New York 1t cannot be concealed, however,
that the republicans made very strong nomination in
Morgan-not nearly strong that OF Evarts would
have bcen-but stu formidable aud requiring the
democratic party TO put forward their strongest
CoRREsroNpKNr--WDo do you think Will make the
stroug cst democratic candidate for Governor?
POTTER VERSUS MORGAN
~ am inclined 10 regard Garrison n Potter as the
strongest candidate" Governor Bede REPLIED land II
coSs to me as If he will be nominated"
Thus the conversation went on, Governor Bedle ey-
pressing repeatedly his conhdeEce IN the success o.
The democratic ticket Speaking OF the importance OF
the Indiana election Governor Bede remarked:-"Ail
the reports that have received point 10 democratic
victory IN Indiana. The withdrawal Of Orth was n
dangerous blow to republican prospects When people
once get into that frame OF mind that they bolt the
ticket the outlook Tor the party Is gloomy. The re.
pubcans Of Indiana were IN that frame OF mind when
they refused to support orth, and now they VIII
probably support Harrison heartily The forced
withdrawal of the gubernatorial candidate underArave
charges OF raud must necessarily prove DISASTROUS
blow to the party.
The conversation then took social turn and your
correspondent babe the amiabc Governor of New
Jersey good morning