The Jasper weekly courier. [volume] (Jasper, Ind.) 1858-1922, 1876-04-14
The Details Of the Conspiracy to Steal
the Evidence against Babcock.

WAsnINGroN. March -. Before the Civ
mer committee to-day Mr.. q. :. Bell. after
,estifylug that he was appointed a secret
gent ~ the Pension Office. At the recom-
incubation ~ President Grant and Mr..
Luckey. in February, 1876. Al a salary -
=, 900 and travelling expenses. reluctantly
admitted that he was engaged a detective
In the liabcock trial under the employ a
Iuskcy. Lilckcy tod him L. con-Islf A. q.
bradley. and to do what he was told by
bradley. Bradley told him 20 get the esi-
dence against Babcock from District Aftor-
ney Overs office, in order 10 destroy H. lie
thought this was going rather too far. and
would not do n; but be got hold ~ al the
evidence surrcpiiiiously from the lawyers
and Others ~ Overs Office, and from Dger
HIMSELF who did not know that he wa, Ia
Babcock's employ. and then told Iuckev
that the case against Babcock Was weak lie
was 10 be appointed special agent ~ the Al
torney -General's office, 10 be sent 10 81
Louis hut he was not appointed. That Wa
on the 18th 81 December. The Attorney
General DELAYED the appointment. and hnal-
IA told him that DYER understood the object
81 Ms going there. lie wns then appointed
special agent in the Interior department.
Ile submitted ctpher between him and
Lurkey. in which he iBcll was 20 c0mmU-
nicate with Lucky while la u. Louis.
GRANT KNEW ALL ABOUT II.
The President knew that he was - be cent
10 4 Louis a. an officer ofthe Aiiorney-Gen
eral 10 iind out the evidence. and told him IL
Rabcock was guilty he wanted a. see him
punished. He (BelD first thought II wa a
prosecution against Grant, but when he got
hold OF the evidence he made NJ his mind
that BabcOck was guilty. lie tried 10 in
form the President personally ~ kaboOck' =
guilt. but a. he could not see him be made
this fact known TO him by giNingfO the Herald
tt.l. Lafk At Roll 1 urA
and mailed a copy 10 the President. which he
had reason 10 believe the President received
Three days after this he ws~ dismissed. He
met Babcock here several times, and when
he told him that Bradley wanted him 10 get
hold ~ the evidence. Babcock said II he did
moi get hold 81 the whole OF IL u would BE- 81
10 use. Babcock said u be- got the evidence
he would be well rewarded. and that there
we're papers and tsiegram> IN existence
which II Dyer goI hold Of he should never b.
able O. explain or get over Sensation
Mr. pierrepnnf was aycrSe 20 his going 10
II. Louis % play the >py for Dyer. and told
him that a high Treasury official. v LON BE-
took 90 be Bri>iow. had found out wbf he
Wa going 10 -. LOU. for. ANA that 10 Wa
therefore u no u,e for him 70 70.
THf PRESIDENTS INSTRUCTIONS
The President told Bell that he wanted
him % iud out whether any attempt wa~
heing made to manufacture evidences against
Bahcock or whether Babcock Wa really
guilty. lie therefore gave him card 10
Picrrepont, 20 that the latter should en-
ploy him 20 70 10 II. Louis a. 2secref officer
Under the guise 81 this appointment DE- was
10 be- used by Bradley. Luck.y and Bahcpck
to yet the evidence and DESTROY IL. Tie ab-
siraeied -ofne kilograms aud paper from
Dyer's Office on the 18th % July. When he
returned 10 ~. Louis ne explained a. Dyer
that h. had been commissioned o. steal the
j dp-f
Dyer against Roger VI. sherman. who
wa sent there hY Distinct Afiorney
Bliss 81 New York. o. do the same GRAND.
H. was told particularly 10 get hold II anN
kilograms signed B. Finch ~ Bullnnch. But
subsequently, BahcOck told him ~ did not
think kilograms under such signatures had
been sent IN that quarter Bell wished u 70
be- particularly understood that b. only acted
Tor Bahcock A. long a he believed him inne-
cent. but that when h. became convinced
that he was guilty ne .-ihrew NJ the
sponge lie regarded Balsc0ck'- prosccu-
ton At first a. political intrigue against
Grant, Tor whom he had been = scout during
the war. and his main interest Was 10 serve
the President. Babcock wanted AL the evil
dence 20 DESTROY H.. The President. Bel
said. never asked him 20 cover up the truth.
ZACH cHASpLTR I'M.
Mr.. Danford Three day- after the puhli-
cation IN the Herald you were dismissed ~
Secretary Chandler. Didn't he 40 night in
dismissing YOU when he found that you
were 10 hc a spy on Over for Babcock.
Mr.. Beii--Mell. In give YOU plain an
swer % your plain question think
Chandler knew al about what wa goin-
% Do. Sensation. told him ] was 90
ing 60 New York Tor Gen. 'iabcock. ard
asked him II should enter in.o details, aud
he said NO
Mr.. Danford pressed the question whether
BE- meant 10 say that Chandler had appointed
him special agent, fully confident ~ his
secret mission. ant be -aid the question
should be asked OF Chandler. Laughter.
While he was In -. Louis working sor
BabcOck, ne drew his pay a special agent II
the Pension Office. hut only for five weeks.
While holding that appointment he went 20
New York for Babcock, bHi be would prefer
not 20 say for what object. Al the recon-
mcndation he had for his appointment un-
der Chandler wa. the card from the Presi- i
dent. The President told him llssin ihat
he would speak 10 Chandler about him. lie 7
said that he would tell Chandler that Bel I
was TO be ordered 70 II. Louis. While be /
was away in New York for Babcock. his pay I
pension agent was stopped. but on hi>
return he got IL. All Chandler asked Wa
whether BabcOck knew that he was IN New
York, and when he said ..les, he got hss \
pay. The only purpose ~ bis employment \
a. Pension Ofice agent was 20 work for Bab
cock