The weekly clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1863-1882, 1876-03-15

@ He did then pay you 5000 on MS re-
turn from Columbus, at one time?
A. No, sir.
q Now, tell the Senate if you dill nor
make That statement before that commits
tee?
| A. | do not think made that = at4,nent
Y. Now, Mr.. Packer state the deuomi-
nation OF the bills paid by Mr.. Davi, 10
A They might have been tens. hveS or
| ffties. ''eS vi
q Was any one higher than fnyY
A. Not that | reeollect
Y. DID you not positively swear before
than fifty
A. les, sir, think / did
z. Was that true:
A ! think it was.
than a fifty
A. ! think So
O. VIII you swear it was not?
A. l will not swear it was not
pa y"u not make this statement be
fore that committee
A / KEPT the $500 given to me by Gov
ernor DAVIS; IL was mine: the office OF the
Private Secretary of the Governor is AL.
joining the office Of the Governor. there
myself
z Is that statement true or false?
a. 1t is tue.
q. Wei, sir, then he did pay you 5000 90
on his return from Colufn bus
A No, he paid $500 90
Manager White reads1
Gov. Davis said he was authorized to
give $500 90 for pardon. 1 kept the 5000
w given me by Davis; il was mine; the
money was paid 70 me by Davis there was
SELF ny
A. Yes, sir, that is true
q Well. did you not just now state that
he only paid you $500 90:
A. Yes. sir.
q. Did YOU not also state that he made
up 500 90 TO you?
A. 1os, sir, within three or four DAYS
q. And yet in your statement here sworn
TO, you said he paid you 5000 30 at one
time; make your explanation. l. that state
ment true?
A. 1t is true. He paid me $500 90 first.
and afterwards paid me 500.
q. What did Davis say when he handed
you the money?
A. He handed me $500 90. | said | was
engaged for 5000 90 and ought TO have it,
He said he would make it up and he did
within three or four days.
q. Well, Mr.. Packer, did not YOU before
that committee, on the day referre to, say
this when he paid me the money Davis
said here is that money | was talking to
you about. do not recOllect anything fur
Their than that.
" Dlu you nlahe JDdI statement
a. No, sir | DO not recolect making that
statement.
Q Did you not read this testimony over,
ana did you not sign it?
n. es, sir. that is my signature.
q. i that the document?
y. 1t may be.
Q. Well, is it true or false?
y. The statement there is false.
q. Where did he pay you that 500 90
Mr.. Packer?
a. In the Private Secretary's office.
Q. In presence ofan body?
a. lie and me were the only ones pres
Q Did you exercise any extraordinary
power over Amrs, that Won should be
sought 10 yet the pardon granted?
A. / don't know that | did.
q. Are you lawyer or practicinG at
torney?
A. No, sir.
Q. Then why do you claim this 5000?
a. As agent.
Q. viii you swear that you approached
Ames on this subject?
A. l nd.
Q. How many times?
a. Once, certainly; don't know but
that | did Il second time.
Q. Did lie not decline to grant the par
don?
A He did, before Davis issued the first
pardon, because he had so much business to
attend 10 he could not consider it.
@. Now, what did you claim compensa-
ton for?
A. was engaged and got ready to go to
Bay st. Louis; l was ready to start when
Mr.. Rhodes received dispatch that Ames
would be back in IA day or two
Q. And you state, because you got ready
to 90 to Bay st. Louis, and Mr.. Rhodes re-
ceIved a dispatch, you claimed 5000?
y. YES, sir; if am employed to do any
thing shall claim compensation.
Q. Who made that price with you?
y. Davis.
q. When?
A Some two or thee days before he is
sued the PARDON.
q. Which one?
A. The first one.
O. Did YOU not swear to the Committee
that YOU knew nothing of the first pardon,
and that You had never been employed un-
til after the first pardon had been issued !
A. No. sir.
@. Examine that paper in which you
swore that you were never employed IN
June Shows written statement To Witness
is that the statement you made, sir
A. That statement is not true; L might
have been mistaken in the month.
Q. Did you not swear that the first knowl-
edge you had of the first pardon, was when
you went into office as the Private oecreta-
ny in June?
A. Hes, sir.
O. Is it true, or false?
a. That was true.
o. Then YOU do state that you knew
nothing about the first pardon. until you
become Private Secretary in June?
A. No, sir; did not say so; was not IN
the State House until after the first pardon
WIS issued.
O. How many times did Davis approach
you on the subject of this pardon?
A. At the time he requested me TO go TO
the Bay to see Gov. Ames.
Q. Is that the only time he spoke to you
about it?
A. No, sir; he spoke to me two or three
times after that
.. How many other times!
A. | do not recollect.
@. Were YOU and he not in constant con-
yersation, almost whenever you were TO-
gether about this pardon?
A. No. sir; we were together tWoor three
DAYS after he had employed me-
o. When did he first employ you:
<. Three or four days after the pardon
was issued.
Q. How do you know it was three or four
days after? ;. :.
A. | found it out Afterwards; saw IL III
O. Did YOU not swear before the commit
tee. that Mr.. Davis approached you ana sala
Mr., Matthews was dissatisfied, and was go
ing to get second pardon?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. When did you take the office of Pri-
A. Between the Issuance of the first and
second pardonS.
Q. You said you went into the office on
the 9th June?
a. Yes sir?
q. Was that the first knowledge you had
of the first pardon:
4. No, sir.
o. When did you get the first knowledge
of the first pardon!
A. The day after it was Issued.
o. Have YOU not sworn half "A dozen times
| that YOU did not know anything about the
| first pardon until after the 9th June!
A No sir.
BY Manager Barksdale-Did you ever
| or order of Dowsing?
a. Yes sir.