, 1876-12-28

f1knEN AND AssAts1NATtON,
"Another great cause Of the SUCCESS Of tic
EfgeAc1d policy believe 10 have been the in!l,-
encc Of the national Democratic party, snd par-
t[cularly the influence which etnanatcd directly
from Mr.. Tiltlcn. Col. Ryan, the member from
South Carolina Of tho National Democratic
Committee, Is reported to lave stated publicly
that, in an Interview with Mr.. Tjldet, thc latter
said, $50 homo and nominate straight Demo-
cratic ticket and work for It, and believe you
can carry the Btatc for the Democratic pasty.'
"Thc Democratic politicians Of South Carolina
are hungry. They long for Office, and tie
prospect Of Democratic success In tue country
at farges and the direct instigatton OF Demo-
cratic leaders in tlse North, In my judgment was
one Of tho nost :powerful influences In deter.
mining the party hero Ia make strict party
tlVht, and 10 adopt tho Edxef1cld pollcy u tile
Gully policy whicl, could be successful.
"And hers lei nc say that the 1cat1ers wcro
right In conducting It upon tho EdgcfcId policy,
a. the only policy that could be successful. Gary
and Butler in that sense wcrc true 1ca1c1s.
There Was not tho slightest inclination, and
there is not to this day, on the part Of tho
co1ored people Of this State or Republicans gci,-
orally, to join the Democratic party; and
nothing less than fear, applied in the very man-
ncr In which It was applied under the Edgcdefd
that wc l,aye aeen."
How TWO coa0REssMxx WE'RE ELECTED.
o." You state that the Republicans elected
three Congressman at the Inst election. Would
they have elected more than that II there hnd
been no intimidation. OF scccssion4f
Gov. c." Yes, Sir; they would hare carried
every Congressional District In the State. Every
District has natural Republican majority.
and nothing but violence and fcar could have
changed the results 40 40 to ciect Democrat In
any district"
THE cARrKr-nAa GOVERNMENTS.
g." The Democrats have made great COM
plants Of what they call the mIarule of the
carpct-bag Government Of South Carollna.
They clalm also that you hare been the most
vehement III dennnciat!on Of that negro mis-
rule, although you arc NOW Its represents
tive. Have you anv objection to talking on that
sub}ccti'
Gov. Co." No; lave no objection whatever
to stating my own views, Is we'll as my own
course, upon any Of these matters.
ait Ia quite too much the custom IN speakipg
Of what arc called the 'carpctbag Governments
Of tho South to present only QUO side Of tho
picture. freely admit tlat there Is ono aide
which IL to largc degree dtscscltablc to the
State Governments Of South Carolina for some
part OF the time since 1867. And harc during
my owu Administration considered 1t my luty,
for the best interests Of tho State, Of tho Re-
publican party, and especially OF both races Of
people living on this soil, without regard 10
party, to oppose and discounteuancu many
Of the practices that hare grown up un-
der Our State Government since reconstruction,
III consequence Of being engaged soinewlat
conspleuously in this work OF correcting Re-
publican abuses 1t has been very esroncously
supposed TINT was u Wholesale ucuounccr Of
the Government which Inns existed here since re-
construction.
benciits the new urdes Of things bus conferred
upon this State. And say now, very drlibcr-
aicly, tlat IN my Judgment the sotaIled ..ear-
pct.pag governments of South carollna have
oi 5 pros9css Sfs d Fl o S goga an ssstty st
agency which has ever existed In tlis ssaie.
:" Now. I am willing to catalogue alt the
abuses against good government which havc ex-
altnEt that the state debt has been ncc,llessly
increased, md large sulna of money raiscl by
taxation hare been expended IN unnecessary
amounts upon unnecessary objects, aud that
sous have crcpt iuto public. office; al:
think / ought to sny here thut quite as
many OF such persons hare been natircs aa otl!:
say there nrc certain lndispntablc fucts which
ought always to bo stated, as the other side Ut
this picture and essential to Just nnd accurate
Judgment Of what has taken place In this State.
Biueu the War. | refer how to sucl remarkable
iacts - thesc-thnt under Republican Influences
that system Of representation IN South Cntu1iua
which threw tha Whole political power. Of the
sno nlo the 1Gnas ses Gi fey
powGr and influence to one class Of citixens and
placed tho burden OF supporting the Govern !
inent 0l1aost exclusively upon another class,
hapH it1At nf rnrfnanrf nj Inn rrfp.
ing Just influence and power to every clas8 OF
the community aud to- each individual, unl lay.
Ing the burdens Of taxation hnl the support Ut
classca Of ths, pcop'u and upon Ill descriptions
Of propcrty.n
Q.-"You have used The word sclass' In dlt-
ferent senses. understand you to mean, 10
speaking Of classes under tho rule OF the old
arlstocracy, that You ra!cr exclusively to classes
among tho tatles; that tl1ese old ruiers ~ ap-
portionel the State thnt these poor whites were
concentrated In the hantls of tho elayclulders,
and tllut NO t1lah could bo mcnlbrr either Ut
tho House or Senate unless ie actually WIS u
STAKEHOLDER. Is not that the factl"
tion, 50 tlat practically, under lie oid system,
he would be q sarclloldcr.n
Q.-"Tleu for tho arst time In the history Of
South Carolina thu poor white to-day has pre-
c!sely TIC sa,ne political rtghts that any other
run OLD BOURBON MlsnulRRs.
Gov. C.-"Certainly; that Is my meaning.
Nov look for moment ut whit was done III
1896 md 1865 BY tlloss very perso1s who arc now
proclalming that tue State has tccn ruined by
the tcarpet-b0ggcrs.'
"1u ISIS, under Johnson's reconasructiou, the
political power of the State WIS left In tho same
hands tint had Acll 1t bcfore aud during the
War. Tic blacks were admitted to nj share
whatever In tho Government Ut the State, mud
had no votes.
1.-THE Democratic Representatives In the Leg
lslaturu proceeded to adopt laws which were de-
signed to continue the same systcu' OF arlstoc-
racy, and to exclude buLh the poor whites aud
the negroes not only from any present share,
but from any prospective SHIRE, in tho GoYeru- |
ment Of the Stato
~ need not speak specially at what IL 50 we'll |
known Us the '1]luck Code 'of South Carolina, |
II may 10 described Is preserving tie essence Ut
slavery without It's outward appearance, and as |
really reducing tue blacks Of the 8tatc to y
condition less favorable than that which they |
occupied befnre the close Of the War.
"Thcre was not only no progress, but. as / |
have atatctl, there was 10 provision Or place for
progrcsS. Tho who'll aim of the ruling clnases |
}1e1l tn annfinia their nrHeF anil tn hrf,, |