Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1876-06-10

plauss and general uproar, with the
speaker vainly endeRvoring to enforce
order, the audience In the galleries pay
ing as little attention as the members
on the floor to the efforts of the chair In
that direction.
Mr.. Morrison asked unanimous con-
sent to offer the following resolution:
RESOLVED, That all the evidence taken
by the Judiciary committee, under the
authority Of the resolutions OF Messrs
Luttrell and TaIbox, be printed, spd that
the Dispatch signed "Josiah Caldwell"
be also printed as q part of the record in
the case; snd said committee shall eX-
anime any witnesses called who may
have heard said Caldwell make the same
or contradictory statement as that con-
tanned IN said dispatch, and the evidence
Of such witnesses shall alse be printed
with other evidence taken by said COM
mittee.
The Speaker pro ten1.-Is there any
objection?
Mr.. Hoar, Mass.-I object.
As the confusion and excitement on
the floor and in the galleries showed no
sign Of abatement, the speaker pro tenn.
directed the door keeper to exclude from
the floor all persons not entitled to the
privilege and to preserve order IL the
galleries, announcing it as his determi-
nation tcibresk up the system ofciaquer-
ism in the house.
Mr.. Garfield said the proposition OF
the gcutIeman fiOm Illinois Morrison |
that the telegram shall not only be pu0-
lished as suggested but that it may be the
proceedings allowed the committee to
take hesrssy testimony, which l UNDER
stand the committee has almost con-
cluded not to do. This dispatch is not
claimed to be evidence.
MIR. Springer-Then, why is ii urgent?
Mr. Garfield-It is part Of the res
gesioe Of the proceedings of the commit
ee. Audit is not evidence.
Ar. SpTinger-It must be evidence or
something else.
Mr.. Garfield-You may call it what
you please, we do not call it evidence;
and l will simply say to the chairman
of the committee on ways and means,
that to put in rule now authorizing
and directing the committee to receive
hearsay testimony, which 1t does not
now receive, would be msnifestly un-
fair and unjust, snd thereof wish that
that clause will not be added.
Mr.. Morrisou-I understand the gen.
tleman nom Maine to desire the
publication OF the dispatch for what it is
worth. Now 1 submit in all candor if it
is proper for the committee to show that
it is worth anything. That is the OBJ
ject of my resolution; that is all l pro-
pose to do. You want to take the dis
patch for what it is worth. You may,
however, think it is worth something as
a piece of evidence in favor Of the gen.
tleman from Maine. To the extent that
the dispatch is true, the gentleman
would have the benefit Of it; but if 1t is
not true, he should not have the benefit
of it. Then why not allow the commit
tee to take evidence to show that it Is
not true? That was the object OF my res
oIution.
Mr.. Garfield-I agree perfectly with
what the gentleman says, that 1t is per-
fectIy and absolutely right to allow the
committee to prove that the dispatch is
worth nothing. It is not proposed to be
offered as evidence. IF the committee
can show il to be spurious it ought to
show it; il the committee can show it
to be false it ought to show it; but eli
that can ask is that the house shall not
make rule that would be violation OF
known rules OF evidence, namely: that
by secondary and hearsay evidence the
committee shall undertake to prove
something about the dispatch. Let
the committee prove all it could, but
prove it by the known rules OF evidence.
Mr.. RsndaiI-The known rules of evil
dence would exclude the paper alto
gether.
Mr. Springer-1 he proposition is this,
that Caldwell may give evidence with
out getting under oath, and that he can
not be contradicted by evidence under
oath.
Mr.. Gsrfeld-Nobody has claimed
that this disE atek, - ovlae0Oe--
Mr.. M'Mahon--Yes, it is claimed as
evidence, and the whole country Ia
called upon to notice that the house is
excluding testimony.
Mr.. Springer to Mr. Garheld-H 1t is
not claimed as in evidence, on what
grounds do you ask to have it put on
record?
Mr.. Gsrfield-On the same grounds
that tee gentleman [Spriugeri put In .
cable dispatch cOndemunlng General
Schenck, only that we don't call this
evidence, and you do call that evidsneF.
Mr. SprIGger-Eut General Schenck
was hesrd.
Mr.. GAfield-Aye, on his sick bed;
when he was over hundred miles
aWay fIom home. Don't meks fish OF
one and flesh of another.
The question wes again taken, and
this time the Republicans did not with
hold their votes. The motion to lay on
the table was earried-yeas, 1875; nays 81.
MI. Morrison then a. ksd leave to offer
his resolution, but Mr.. Hulburt objscted.
Mr.. Morrison then ssked leave to otfer
a resolution providing that on Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, OF
next week, no business of q political
character should be considered by the
| house.
MI. HulhuIt-How Is any such busi-
ness possible?
Speaker pro tem.-The chair is unable
| to decide.
Mr.. Blaine objected, and the rssoiu-
| ton was not read.
Mr.. Cox, having called Mr.. Blackburn
! to the chair, made the report Of the COM
! mittee of conference on the bill for the
| appointment of a receiver of national
banks. Agreed to.
A large number Of members were
| granted leave OF absence.
| Mr.. Wikoff offered q resolution In
| structing the committee on Indian az
fairs to inquire into the issue OF bonds by
8 railroad in Kansas, predicated on con-
| ditional grants of Indian lands in the In
dian Territory, in whose hands they are
held, and whstever public faiththad beer
pledged for their payment or redemp
tion. Adopted.
Adjourned.