The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1876-11-16
HORATIO sErMOUR,S views.
What he saws about the Presidential Crisis
Grant, Unfortunate selection.

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element growing out Of the political situation,
Horatio Seymour maintains his thoughtful
calmness. lie comes into Utica from his Deer
field I'm every day when the weather aud his
health will permit. lie is not well. He has to
abstain from writing altogether and he is abIe
to red hut little. In personal appearance, how
ever, he shows no signs OF declining strength.
He stands erect "a ever. the model figure OF the
statesman. He took deep aud undisguised
interest In the canvass preceding the election.
Against the protest of his physicians he deliv-
cred two speeches In Utica, two In Deeraeld, ard
one or two elsewhere In Oneida county. Ho
spoke with less than hts old time vigor, but with
an earnestness and solemuity which gave to his
voice the inspiration Of prophet.
found Hofatio Seymour this afternoon at the
law ofice OF his brother, John +. Seymour, who
occupies a leading losition at the Utica bar. l
made known my business and the Governor
siRnncd his willingness to be interviewed. lie
remarked with a smile that ext erieoce had
tau sht him the advantage OF yielding gracefully
to the demands Of the newspaper fraternity. lost
they should revenge themselves on MIN by
cribing TO him sentiments which he never ut
tcred-a STYLE OF attack with which he Is not
unfamiliar. | began by asking Gov. Seymour
whether he had been invited TO go to New Or
leansl He replied that he d not. lie would
not have been able To 60 II he had been; his
health would not Permit II. He asked to near
the names VI those VINO had been asked by the
President TO go there. read them, and he Id
~ believe they are all Re ublicans. and most
OF them were actively eng ged IN the canvas
which has Just closed. 1t Is very unfortunate.
sense, or the advice OF his counsellors, should
not have prompted him To select men from both
parties to witness the count Of the Louisiana
returning hoard. These men act IN SEMI
official capacity, and II thev had been impar-
TALLY chosen the people would have given great
weight TO what they said hut there Is no name
a
which cirrles With II any suggestion Of unpreju-
diced Judgment and l understand that air.
lection II very unfortunate, and l cannot be
Hove that the President would have made It had
ne given he subject more mature elaboration.
am told that several prominent Democrats are
now In New Orleans on tho invitation Il the
Democratic National Committee. The presence
Of the leading men OF both parties ought to pro-
duce reassuriug and quoting effect but IL IA
not fair that one side should act under the qgas
authority Of the President Of the United states,
while the other side are looked uOon as the
mere representatives OF a polite 4 party"
Tue Governor WAS asked what he thought the
result Of the present controversy over the Pres
idenc, would be, and he made this answer:
think Il wiil he settled by general acqui-
eEcence IN tue election OF Mr.. 1ilden. The Re
publicans caunOt afford to become responsible
Tor miscount IN any OF the Southern states.
they can AFFORD TO 20 out OF power; but they
would be utterly ruined II tnev should accept
power through fraud. IL part Of the vote Of
Louisiana were to be thrown out In order to
make Gen. YES President. and he should
sumo the onice under such circumst Inces. he
would be known everywhere as kenogg-Hayes.
From the day OF his INCARCERATION the people
would mistrust hin. The better class OF men
lu the hepuolican party would condemn the
policy OF the leaders. The party would lose its
strength Ia every locality. and the Government
would fail to command the respect Of citizens
generally. On the other hand. II the Repuoli
cans gracefully submitted to what Is early
the will Of the majority Of the people,
tney would be IN good position to recuperate
their strength. They Will continue TO control
the senate for two years at least; they will have
Almost powerful minority III the ext House OF
Representatives they Will BE- relieved from all
further nece~sity oi projecting ordefending bad
men in the South tuey wiIi be free to select
new LEADER, untraIumelled 10y the bonds which
power always imposes. am confident that toe
rank ana nle Of the party takes this view OF the
situation. was talking with two kepub leans
Yesterday. neighUors Of nine. and | simply ex-
piained IL them that Mr.. Ilden had very large
majority OF the popular vote, and without
m oment's hesitation they said, Then ne ought
by AL means to be President The exact work.
ing Of the electoral system II not very generally
underst lod. but every American understands
the doctrine VI fair play
The Governor was asked to give his opinion as
To the conduct OF the recent canvass ON both
SIDES. He said
The Democrats were weaker than the Re.
publicans IN the number Of their speakers. IL
l. so long since they have been In power tn Il
their list Of professional politicians h,s become
circumscriOed; hut tue HepaD lcdus we're weak
In the ch .racter II their leading orators. rney
cultivated "a tone OF intense Bitterness, while
the people whom they addressed were, IS rule,
temperate and thoughtiul. The seeds OF strife
which these orators undertook to SOW fell on
barren ground. Moreover. tue Republican cam
paign Was iutrusted to men ON whose character
tue imputation Of immorill,ies rested, justly or
un1ustly. These men were Gen. DIX, Mr.. Blaine,
Col. lngersoi, aud Gen. kup trick. l nave NJ
desire 10 say anything unkind ia regard to either
Of tncm, bat II was freely charged W the Re
puolcans themselves four ears ago that Gen.
Kip tri X had disgracod himself and bis
country att foreign court. Col Ineersoli has
shocked the sentimments Of a large religious
class by denourclng his Creator with the same
violence that he employs when attacking the
Democratic party. Mr. Blaine Is Yet to be tried
Oh charges affecting his official Integrity and his
personal purity. In justice TO hin, II ought to
be added that he denies the truth Of the charges
and the y ople are Wiling TO give MIN the beDe-
NJ OF douot, Tut they cannot free him from
suspicion. Tue posi- non Of Gen. DIX is even
more unfortunate. lie was ass ciated with Gen.
Butler ~ 1861 IN an Illegal interference with the
voters Of New YORK. lie pretext was desire
to prevent frauds, vet 1t Is shown by the report
OF his political friends in Congress that at that
very time October. lSAl he was engaged In
making the III xie contract, which the commit
tee denounced as a fraud upon the Government
aud tue corner stone OF the Credit MoUier
swindle. 10 use their own words tine interest
OF the road ana through II the interest 81 tue
Government were utterly and deliberately dis.
regarded. IL turns out that while he
dollars year a. a General ia the army.
he was getting the same sum annually as Presi-
dent OF the Pacinc Railroad Company. As the
road was built with money advanced by the
Government, both salaries C me out Of the
treasury OF the | niteI States and SO did the
$5JUVO which Cakes Ames testified he extorted
from he company while he was Minister to
France. As the company cannot pay tue inter
est on the bonds Issued Tor Its benefit bN the
| Government, the people are now taxed S4,UOO.OUU
each year TO pay the interest on the bonds is
| sued To the different Pacific Railroads. a large
snare Of winch was vested IN iIauduieut con-
| tracts. The peol lie naturally distrusted party
| whose Leading advocates rested undcr the IN
putatlun ut sucn immOrAlities. They did not
Iona to the passionate appeals of these gem
| tlrmvn. THINK IL might be sn, wn that where
Is aiue, Dix, lnger,oll, and kpat lex spoke. tue
| Hepu hcans lost heavily on their vote of -four
| years ago. repeat, that wnlle the leaders were
| violent and biter Tue people were thoughtful
ana TEN crate.
| ln conclusion Gov. Seymour asserted his be.
| II that the Rep bllcan managers would he
| forced 60 re,ire from their present unten hle
position In regard TO the Presi icncy. IT the,
do not, he added, their .rty VIII surely suffer
an imiAuOn.'
| Senator Francis Herman, whose home IL in III
! city. - absent in WateTtoWntiytug an imDOrtani
| lawsuit. Before his departure ne told your cor
| respondent IN 1 hs had been invi ed to New
Oiieaus, nut lelt cOmtelled TO decline the in\i
| tatOn, because IN his III ial capHcI Y as "A Sena
tor In Congress he nigh he called upon To pas
On the vdildity Of the canvass la that Stute IL,
| expr, ssed he belief that 10th parties wouit
eventually JOIN In denouncng anv attempt 1,
count IN 81 defeated candidate for the Pro- iden
| cy, al touusehod moderation ANA cOOiness.
| cor. HENDRIChS INTERVIEWED.
lie Believes that Mr.. Tildcn 10 Elected