, 1876-03-17
"1t has hoen aasd that ho would not heattAts to

at Ina hoen aasd that hc wout1 not hesitate to
furnish worry much rar1aished talc."
"WoIf. from what know Of fchrn I sn not
rosdy To think that OF bla. And yot, II the ntpry
IL trne that e did so tohtlfy against no. 1t rataen
eonne question to mr. mind "a to whether he ID
porfectly aluaro Or NOT.
'You hayo road the story about Jnnkor's
swearing to Whit Jnko wanted him to sHoaE, -
pnblsshod la this mornings TnInunE7 haven't
mo / did not $40 1t. Ia II there2"
Tue reporter a.sured ,1nm II Wan. sud pro-
cceied 70 relate l,o~ Junker had gone ootoro tho
Jury and told what Jake fad uiatlol him to tell
and that to tai Afterwards told hotpo friends 10
had novor known any such thing. aud shat hta
tcattmony was given to passs Jakc. who had
great deal Of fntiutrce viii, him,
1t certainly lookb bad against both OF them:
againss Junker Tor telllug n9mnttiug ha didn't
kuow anything about and against Jake for get
"ng ns1a !a"sef eoa to "1ol 40 r.; Mr Num- had
"Noyer. OF my shape or kind nercr paid
him any monor and he neyer paid me any"
"Do you know ANYTHING about Iake's t.a!!-
testified 70 having paid you monoy2"
mo, / do not. All have seon has boon In
the papeFs." .,..
'Did You expect An inf3lctment7"
mo Idid not, ind WAS ttever mora surpEi ssd
than when learned OF 1t this morning, / had
roa.i Sundays TniurnE containing tho statement
that Jako would 60 beforo tho Jury and teatify
to paying me money :. but couldn't believe ho
would do 1t, for tlle .plsiu reason that he nerer
paid mo any money. ...-. ~
). You deny tho charges. then, altogether, do
you !"
world. II Jake Rehm has committed perjury.
| to will find ono man who i4 not goiug to tie
dosn. shall make . Gght. snd don't think
the truth aud tho right can bs squolchod cven
| by pnrjurcd testimony."
"Who is your counsel n
"Dob 1pgcruoll and =. X. Dow"
| "Whau do your other Cases como up?"
| "Ttae st'lwaukee and st. Lou,s cases hara
boon sot 70. tho sau'o day.--Aprl 3. Aid sup
| pose ono Of thom wiLl htyo to b. continued to
lot mo bo pret 1t at tho other"
':Won't that arrangement Interfere With m
| early trial horo7"
mo, gloss not. rather hops to get my
| caBo on next weak. It gcens tho Government
hasn't any casos to Try nov, since eyorybody IL
lying down aud s9ueal!ng. SO I Guoss II! gys
| them notne work"
"Did you, like alr. Ward.
WANT 70 90 nEFonE THE unAyp IuHY Z"
"When first heard tho story that Ja!te Hsa
golng TO testify against me. put little faith in
Il. and can't say that actually beloved 1t tilt
hoard waa Indicted. Still. thought II there
was oven Hsory out there would DO no harm in
my asklug 10 appear before tho Jury aud hayo It
investigated and guietcd. 10 l told Judge
psnTs s Wadassa1y a Sd eitsFn0on about o'clock"
lilo thought It o rather unuaual requcst, but
told him thess wero unusual times, when
roguoB would como forward. and. by promising to
implicato mon, Becnze immunity for themselves.
fio finally nAl ho would refer t1o matter to the
Goveromont counsel aud see ma agatn."
"This was about O'Clock. you say, and tho
Indictments woso returned about hA1f-pnat 4 I"
"Yos. but during tbnt time, when tue jury
woro Of course At work drawing up the bills,
had no opportunity to 60 before tham aud mako
any statement"
"AYhat do you think
1AIE's on1rcT
Ia In masking thoan statenlents?"
"We!!, his principal object Is, Of course. IL
| drng In otLprB II possible, and thus snyo him
self. But his secondary object. md rather I'M
portant ono, too. suppoao, IL to show tho dis
i'lIorH that he it'd what he proteuda have don,
with tho mouoy Ito ia H1id to lave collected
paid It over 10 tho Government otlicora In th,
Ring. 10 wants to Rllou thon that ho kept faitl
with them"
! Tho Conversation sped On, but 1T. Num- ha,
} no very decided opsntons to exproHa except thai
he Was innocent, and only awaited an oppor
tunity to yindicate himself beforo court
TheTs would bo no giving up in Ata casc, bi
conscious Of roctisuio, he would 200 that tht
Testimony against him ras thoroughly siftod
aud It there wna any perjury ho proposed to GO
ut tho bottom Of It,
J After expressing this idoa In several forms
last tt1na with increasing energy and ehrnost
ness Mr. Mum had evidently Given up nll lie
knew. and tho reporter excuaad himself And