The New York herald., 1876-12-19
FREIGHT DETERMINATIONS.


THE PROBABLE INFECT OF THE RECENT
CHANGE IN RATES Upon NEW YORK TRADE
OPINIONS OF BUSINESS MEN.
There seems y bo great divergence Of opinion
among the mercantile community TO the probable
effect OF the recent advance OF rates agreed upon be-
the magnates OF trunk lines at their recent
conference at tho Windsor Hotel A HERALD reporter
yesterday made inquiries among the merchants, and
his inquiries showed that the results OF the conference
comparatively little derstood by some Of the
heaviest shippers while others greatly differed the
which they of the effects OF the advance This
CON nparative Indifference among numerous class OF
Shippers who would certainly be interested in II their
interests either materially benefited or injured
would 10 indicate that the change will not d.
rectly affect thom to any important extent Mr.. Thur
bcr OF II. X Thurber 4 Co., No. 173 Chambers street.
explained this indifference oy pointing out the fact
the heaviest shippcrg had special contracts with
the railways which would last TIL June that for the
present the changes would have no personal interest
for them.
VIEWS or MR.. THrRBER.
REroRrER-will this agreement entirely do away
with the discrimination formerly existing In favor Of
Baltimore and Philadelphia
Mr.. TmURBER--If tho agreement Is as think-and
got most OF my Information from the article in last
Sundays nERALp-ihen there is no doubt that New
York is put upon farcr basis than 1t was II people
ship cbeaply from New York as they can from
Philadelphia and Baltimore and Boston it is manifest
that they will not have to 30 from here 70 those cities
and thus divert trade which might be retained BY
city The same principle holds good us regards ship
mcps from the West to New York. The mileage basis
which. suppose has been superseded by the present
arrangement undoubtedly worked to the deirimcDt ot
New iork's interests. only regret That on local
h1,.n "A Nnr NnrE nrIf Iftp,rr
and Philadelphia there VIII Still bc dIscrim na-
ton OF rs much ms ten per cent in favor o Baltimore
aud OF about seven and hulf per cent Ia favor of
Philadelphia, and that on tho local rates between ST.
LOUIS and New York. Baltimore and Philadelphia thero
will SIN be discrimination oi thirteen per cent IN
favor OF Baltimore and ten per cent In avor OF Pha
dcphia All such isc.inlnation cannot be without
It's accompanying effects and must divert shipments 10
those cities see ono paper stated that ihs ~ vr
ual surrender OF Mr. Vanderbilt TO tho other lines, but
whether this true shall probably only be able
toll after the details of the have been fully
and officially promulgated. / am personally inclined
toward tho opinion expressed IN your editorial that tho
change may work bcnfncally; but, as said before
we shall have TO await further details
REPoRTERHns tho advance OF rates not yet elicited
decided expression Of opinion from the leading firms
in your line OF trader
Mr. IuuRsER--No, sir; II is generally assumed that
the precise terms OF lhe agreement are not YET KNOWN
and that opinions the probable ELECTS OF the I'd
vance would be somewhat premature
VIEWS OF MR.. cpNpiT
Mr. Condit, OF the firm OF Ackcr, Merrill Condit,
said he had paid but little attention to the subject and
that he could say very little indeed about the advance
OF rates. except that for the time being II would
probably have the effect OF checking business "If
there is OF freight rates, y said he, tit
not the shippers who have bear tho consequences
but tho consumers and experience is that in the
same proportion in when prices does consumption
decrease This is our UNIFORM experience, and II Will
probably not vary IN the present instance However,
we shall probably have wait some time TO how
the arrangement works, and whether We shall be
really much benefited By II as II is now claimed.
HORACE u. CLAFLlN's OPINIONS
Mr.. Clafn stated that he had not yet learned the
precise terms OF the agreement but after carefully read
without entering into the terms Of this arrangement
can tell you in the PLAIN words Of business man
what 1t is thai IS really desired by New York. We
that the rates shall be SO adjusted that IL will
cost just as much TO ship freight from Philadelphia
and Baltimore as from New York, and rice
That would stop the great diversion OF our trade to
those cities. This Is, thcn tho question in
hellDoes the present arrangement effect this result
or Goes it sill leave in favor OF Pha.
dephia and Baiimorcf Now, in so far as this dis.
encd ' the trade Ira Of ' New York will a'' beno
urged. and which, 10 my mind, has considerable
weight Is the provision that the uniformity OF
grain to DO used at the tcrInn But how you toll
that man wants to ship grain for export trade? Arc
you going to make the shipper swear to II, or howS
He may say that he DID not design his rsirnsens
primarily or export ana that wns only only n wu aer
the carrying trade is concc cd, and the results
should, therefore, bo favorable IN this respect |
think, however, that little DO SAID about il until
the whole agreement in all its details the
mercantile community and until VIC how long
and how well the plan is likely 10 work In its practical
rnE pALrIMogE AND ONO RATES
The following are tho schedule raies adopted by tho
Baltimore ONO and Pcnns yvana railroads to-day,
or leading points west OF Baltimore The prices are
per 100 pounds
First cass-chcago, 43 cents; Cincinnati, 40 cents;
Columbus. SO cents Cleveland, 50 ccnts; Dayton, IS
cents St Louis 81 cents; Fort Wayne 81 cents; ndi
annapolis, 40 cents, Toledo, 35 cents.
Second cass-Chcago 80 cents; Cincinnati, SO cents;
Columbus, 81 cents; Cleveland, so cents; Dayton. 81
cents; ST. LOUIS 40 cents Fort Wayne, "a cents; lnd
annapolis. 81 CENTS Toledo, so cents.
Third classChicaao, 35 cents: Cincinnati, 80 cents
Columbus, IS cents: Cleveland, 90 cents; Dayton 30
cents; Louis, AZ ccnis Fort Wayne, 80 ccn,s Ind
annapolis, 80 cents; Toledo, % cents
cents; Columbus 2l cents Cleveland. % cents; Day.
ton, - cents; ST. Louis, 81 cents; Fort Wayne, 23
cents; Indianapolis, - cents Toledo. - cents
Columbus IL cents; Cleveland, IL cents; Daytou -
cents; ST. LOUIS, 20 cents Fort Wayne, 10 cents;
lndianap polis, 81 cents; Toledo, II cents.
These rates went into effect to-day. Both companies
have been busily at work upon the schedule to-day,
and other points showing ling advance will
be completed tomorrow.
THE LINES.
Mr. William II. Vanderbilt, Vice President, SAID last
evening answer TO certain questions put to him by
Erie. tho Pennsylvania and the Baltimore ana Ohio
railroads lad come to a definite agreement among
themselves to establish uniform and higher rates
all these lines The scale OF prices. he sad, twas
to have gone into force Yesterday The charge,
which he regarded as favorable 10 all the corporations
concerned. had been effected without '.backng
"By the new arrangements New York city would no
added, s'contnuc 10 be as iavoraby situated with re-
gard TO the conveyance of Wcstcrn freight as either
Philadelphia or Baltimore, her more southern and
less advantaseously situated rivals Tor the West
crn trade "
RAILROAD NOTES.
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