New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1876-02-12

mr Bowen-I desire to know II my proposal which
has been read in your hearing without previous rcler,
crrs the church and Mr. Beecher IL accepted ms
proposal MAKO think will settle The wlo9 matter III
way which will he certainly not dishCno' ape 70 etne,
all parties. ard when viii screen rOin the puoc tne
and many Of the incidents connected WIN te
case witch am cure all should Say had otter not
bubble ~ well as in the interests OF the church. and in the
int est OF all parties concerned maze ms proposal
seriously and with desire that tne shall be met at
tie earliest possible moment and that we may come 70
conclusions which are Just and proper without any aey
whatever. do not Xsh and DO not mean ~ eVade inc
Issue which has been presented desire That I'll tns
MI TiInoyeDo we understand you TO propose. this
tribunal substitute for the present. proceedingsi
Mr. BOwen-I do. | desire that the whole case shall
selected, by Mr. oocher ami one ~ myself anu 'hey
to select a third before whom shall go privately and
have this adjusted o way that shall be right be-
fore God aud man. Snd the result simply TO De gwen ~
words Let these gentlemen near what !s 70 be sald
without spreading the details OF the case befors the
Mr. Biar-i move that the Committee decline TO &c
crde Mr. Bowers proposition in lieu Of the proceed
ings before &c Committee.
MIR. Tiiney-i second tho motion. .
Mr. Bair-I think hr. Bowen misconceycs the present
nqe Of E, rence between Mr. ecchcr and Mr. bowen
It is now a matter between Mr. Bowen anu tho church'
TGe rnrltv of The cnrch requires that II there are facts
existence pablo Of SUSTAINING the all'e"tlos "Hcn
Mr Bowen has made that Mr.. beechrrl peiJuIcr, an
aiaterer, and hypocrite they shoa os hm"" ;tss ,
church may take such acton upon tuein as iius'
facts require AMI we have summoned Mr Bowen mere
as understand H. for the purpose OF eilcitng stn 's,
II any In his possession upon that grounu W o,rr
in the premises, and for that reason think we
shonId deen@ to allow me mat,ef TO- W. mater to lie
carried before strangers Tnis 10 mater DIV .
Pymouth Church and ono OF its memDcfs, aHcuuE w.
good name and reputation Of another member ana an
itcns good name, character and usefulness OF ule
church, and we are tlibnnl appomteh ny me cnurcn
uBd-r rules 10 which Mr. Bowen 4a party seeking, VI
PURSUANCE Of duty Christians, to set at to hth
~ this matter. and 20 do JUSTICE and we .0u I've GeIe
lot 10 duty lid not proceed with this nvrstga
lion mud call upon Mr Bowen. under NJ opS itioAs asa
member 0f fJmouih 'hhich-co' 1n.ht ,,iIn
which assumed agO-tO state all me facts Withln
his personal knowledge that Affect the char'o'er oi o
Mr Whi,c-I wond ike 20 aav the pcracn who arst
commenced this nvcs igaiiOn. not "a partisan Ot DIT
Bowen Of Mr. Beechef. but a. one interested as q
member Of tine church, not knowing Wlal was llo true
character spiritual lcadcr-the man 10 Wnn my
rr,y an myself took tOr spiritual adycet1nt "eSr"
that there snail De submitting III this mater ~ tLIe
been tinted ~ in papers all over the country, when
has been hintcd at in private conversation
" pnd as as to what Is known by tho w.r
ores in regard to tie pastor Of the church snail be-
cir ~ knowing every fact. In aspect To when we an
snall be ildrs what is tAe rae character 81 thc
Investigation in regard 10 this matter and tnen rider
thelf h"i'ioh upon H'' 80 49, ~, a., 10, a. - ,yI9t
over they may he. insist upon the NV Sgli'0h pro
ceeing either before the Committee church
Nj Towrn-I deshe 10 call your attention 10 one I'm
porl,nt matter when nr. White appeared In my ol'"
An rr.eltl this case t. me- he distinctly ASSERT 'g
the = esrrre ., myself and my son that Ee made ~
char-rs wIatcycr against me. lie san II was pei M
nary talk, friendly in,rryew TO elicit from me the
ftr4 in this case u Il his power and when de
Gin al Tie two crvics. Gsrl)sc my Information
which ad ne Inn .ppc4red, 6e.9r y9H ana ie,.sa
and ca, Jon al to witness the fAet-that he bad no
CHARGES haf make against that he had what
h" rIe {" pre,ent in an Informal way, AMI
desired that your rero.tcr o. clerk Should aAe down
salon and Ar White Will remember That he
distinctly made tIat utrTlnco hore. id not got 1t IN
the report sent TO inc. and that Is The rta,on WY
waut, A report that sl,rll b5 verbatim Nj. WHIT
tc Iou are t.le listeners Mt Willie ia. i'in-
uG An myself the defendant, and axe caei here I"
t '' 30 y rs me- yogr adyiSe Yon are no, i2tcd
20 assume, With Sir. White. TO be pLniiiis Ia
Stems by tie Geycl gmrnts OF t,o d{ and W |
evening That You have assumd to DO plaintiffs |
tia case, whca you ar .aod mere to listen 10 w"tt "e
.,iA hr" L. sat. AMI thch give hI'l'e al 2l O'ihk
natter, ;ha; yr Tot u en- submitted 10 y"G' Gl VIII
out gninx the usG!l noiie "a ia" NAMES oI !o1
Witnesses, ready 10 meet any new c.A ccs h tI'
% ,r,I f. -, mo- ms new i..tcr triii.at be-
aui i'p 'i,"'I No., 80 80 10 io IT," ar J,iI,,,
and papers, al memoranda, III rtE'ui - iie- l"E-
winch .,ht come up ia nInute, and it l. impossible
Tor Ir. AID tat was tho reason Why asked !"d 20
..i,e tbc eurstloas y'h d'Nted To- Pf"pohnd, |
pared - lntver yor questions tonight. and har. not
He' anc IA i n''u' 90 consult al y p,li iit a't
uent, .u rc.Ar; 10 tie "H'ioh' "h'n hNSh' COMO De
il.e q, ,u.s, IrN 30 JON 'rc song ';' i!r I,i'~
flc-tcu~. lCe.t mi. c".d hot ahs".i t-r"' nan an,
satisfaction - --ii. a- uus. Ic:rr 10 papers, and
isc r.iorls.iop. tnat I may be sure OF correctly |
.n;ins the Lc;s a., understand TIN
.
,. De-. tii' C. !, luf -.tti,r .ill 700 on "a your Irr,
o,c, mr. .s possible tat you ali boar o." acts ~
tn-t.. INST have lime 10 consider VIA. -"".' o't
.c:,i, Too, a4d uc.o.urr Ecspc. thy asA p"nc-
mont ~ ihs .n'teliion, " o., L, so .h .nat m
VIVA, i-to b-- to do-,I, reasonable time :, al
"aJ -.tcu la = .irn oi.o"'si@ucet. ....., |
hy Nr iipA,n vndd ,,y that al tho u~w question,
nj ,,r,, ,i .r concern % o., wsi,h n, spcdts uY, boon
,,i ~. h'.,,ii m ..> I.ticr 20 I'll. cuul.;.. |
Hos.j -.y utLri, .!., - ;Hi c'te! sltto, ta |
uou nad, a. .c,:, ,o uie 'a,rn..h aes b"i re an, |
,io. ,l,u.l." iDat I,ticr j, dat~i teu (, l-16-aH
aY~a-u. Lis t'm.ilt'o nd' >imhoa"t Nj BOWEN I"
,, Dol, at. zoos, lar c. 80 appeal - yo1 10. So
ltp non 10 .ca i tr m,f,i 81 our church wa.t air !
.ioul -. r i .c l.. n0tD NJ to sly /, iil ,ay So
Nr wan am not hire t. pcs. t"4t this |
claims chat no IL not pscH"ioI. bat VA oe "n al
o,.c. o,'"Hg t. 80 TIC p-iSo1 WAC list ,'n"lri','i /
t.ia po. eai."n' do ioi j'ct 80 Iii "' "m CON
ccrIci. ia, be snail have nme 10 ricple Ms stat
Iu.nt bd ~ saId To hi on oar firs interview VII
Dee aid 4 he .a' atidoAed he "yu" d "a hlin.'
ncn oit: Then va vii De e,L"kri. erc.Hs. pro-
pose 10 know what '",;e acts a'e" ~" AN ear'ng
ct5,g ana p,rect Kindness at that time AMI |
notify hin and you that propose to press tA nyessd
tion before 80 proper lDa', IA ths on" ca. IL "e
desires have II before the whole boa! OF Inc church "a
aly special committee that may cc appointed IN TIE |
rIIrcn 81 before l.. ros'lar cohst"t'd commit e oi
tnis cIurc dom object to any OJe, but IN FyOut
sIurhody l. 10 prosecuted. either the pastor fOr ia
mora! tea M: Bowen fcr a." d.iniGuhrits into |
winch. believe he has la IN ia these Charges which
made 10 aim, and "bicn have made before You
MR.. BOwEN'S REQUEST FOR DELAY REFUSED
MI BairI -ubnit n does not rest WIKI Nj. White
TO withdraw this matter from the Committee We have
undertaken here, ia tho Interest OF the parity vi s
Church. to get ut these facts Mr.. Bowen announced
himself ready 10 testify regard 10 them. aud We have
asked him twice do and have mo; here TO night to
hear him says the reason he desires delay Is that he
needs 10 consult Witnesses suggest that he does not
need to consult witnesses, but 10 s,aIe facts
wi:hin hs personal KNOWLEDGE, aud In regard
to flcts that not within his knowledge