New-York tribune., 1876-12-09
YLIVrH CONGREsS-2D SESSION.
REGULAR REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS.

REGULAR REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS.
JOINT RULES NOT IN FORCE IN THE sENATE-cRo-
NIN's NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. BILL PAssED-A
BILL PREVENTING THE PAYMENT OF WAR CLAIMS.
SENATE. WASHINGTON Dec. 8, 1876.
In the Senate to-day, Mr. ANTHONY (Rep.,
r. ~ introduced bill TO provide for engraving ana
printing the portrait Of the late Hon. Henry otark-
weather of Connecticut TO accompany the euloges on
the life and character ofthat gentleman In presenting
the BILL Mr.. Anthony said 1t had been the practice 10
print portraits of deceased Senators and Representatives
TO accompany eulogie but the Committee on Printing
was opposed It, However they did not think proper
recommend its dlscOntinuance just now IL Was ni
known that cuoges on the life and character OF te % a.
Speaker Mr. Kerr, were soon to be dehvefe1 i nna ~
would not be proper TO forbid the rner p%riIS THU se v
continued. The bill was then passed -,
questng Secretary OF the Interior to report 10 tne
Senate Immediately what efforts have been nade 10 re-
move the Sioux Indians from their treaty Reservation
10 the Indian Territory, and that negotiations arc ~"
pending between the Government and sad lnans 70 y,
ether with the object and purpose thereof Agreed to
Mr. MITCHELL Rep oregon called up f3r Se
Committee on Privileges and Elections TO investigate the
facts attending the appointment OF T. Cronin az p
Presidential ecctOr by the Governor OF oregon. Ic
ferred TO the Committee on Privileges and Eleeuohs
on motion OF Mr. LOGAN Rep, ND the bin IN intro i
by him last session to provide for the issue OF s
coin aud to make the SILVER dollar leGa ,te
taken from the table and referred TO the committee
OIL Finance. - ,,,.o -,
Mr., MORTON (Rep., Ind) moved tla a VI
three additional members TO the Committee on PfYeges
and Elections be appointed TO aid In dSchaTglmg me
providing for investigation into the recent elections
in Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabame' mGOsr, a
Florida and Louisiana. Agreed to- and the Char was
authorized TO appoint the now members: ,.,o
Mr. HARVEY en Kanl submitted nj o,,ne ,,to tRe
several branches OF the Civil Service; TO employ clerk,
and send for persons and papers Agrsed % TO- M oo, of
W. W. Hndlin. formerly Judge OF the Third Dstnet
Court Of New Orleans. Referred to the Committee on
Mr.. EDMUNDs (Rep, VT moved to take up the loint
resolution proposing an amendment TO tne M %
of the United states In regard To the count OF the et
'0NLr Mr. IWEPiIMoS fRep n C5 objected and read the
Twonty-irst Joint Rule, providing hat the unfinished
business left from session shall not be taken UP
for action until after the lan,e davs OF the begin
piuy of mo b.equeut session lie made the point O
order that under that rule the joint resolution cOd not
be considered now
The CHAIR CSfr Ferry oycrruled the point OF order
and announced that The joint rules were not IN lorce
Besides this subject covered by Senate Rule o.
which was directed to be read d provides that ut tho
beginning Of a second session business shall be re-
suned and proceeded with as II no adjournment had
Mr. MERRMoN appealed from the decision Of tho
Chair. and SAID he mad no objection to taking up thlS
oint resolution. II II could be done property mt the
Invent, first Joint Rule was III force. a he believed II
was the resolution could not be taken MP lie thought
that rule contained a very Wholesome provision. MT
Mcrrimun then argued that me JOINT futS Wer III oivt
and 1t was not competent Tor the S1hhto 10 Sn1sn
ilcm without tho concurrence of the Housc Neither
the concurrence OF the other, He read from the pro
coedmgs Of Congress 81 previous sessions 10 snow that
forced The Joint rules had been IN force since the cN
iscuce OF the Government They had never been ques-
adogtion tiiI AZ the 1st session OF the senate
Mr. JOHNSTON D,m., Nal said although II was con
sdered now had been 10 hc last session, that there
joint rules IN force before tn senate ana tunsc
they acted under them every day Inc Du,ihrs ol Io
grcss could not without them. He quoted AZ
length from the joint rul =, ana SAID the authority TO a
point lcrcnce committees derived from the joint
les
10 another was In pursuance OF the JOINT rutS:
MIR NDS said there was general parliamentary
rulc providing for committees of conicrenrc
rniiteos appointed under the Joint rules, among them
committees enrolled bills, committees on the Library
Mr. sHRGRNT d,ep. CalJ said when trc st Of commit
tees reported the other DAY 4 WAS accom- u!cd hy
resolutions authorizing the Committee on tue lauaryl
on Public Buildings ana Grounds Printing ANA Enrolled
Bls 10 act currently with those committees of the
House This showed tuat The seuae dhl not recognize
the lOlEt rules under Mch 'h'sc oonm Is mlEh, act
MI DAVIS dem. W. Val sud when lhc committees
were reported lie usket the senator irIm iowa Aii.
any change IN the usual custom ~ appointing commit
tecs and was assured hl te senator tnai tn,re WIS no
change. Now il appeared tntt there change Tor
the purpose o: avoiding tnr joint rilcs.
10 him when he sena}ot RON Wcst Virginia ,ir Dagil
made the inquiry lio understood hiu TO ask " there
was any great change IN the rs'hzauoH oi cohu'e''
Mr. MOKTON said perhaps there was legal proPo-
giun that could D. started but hat could ID, ned Ia
yorably IL perfectly PLAIN 20 MIN that there we're
joint rules the senate bed withdrawn from them.
rous authorities IN support OF h- argument and read
from me Reco,d ne IleWs hef,ioiotS pJ sti
in his opinion the entire pniosc OF ms friends on the
other sdc In maintaining tat thc joint iu,s were bind
ing now was 10 maintain the Twenty Joint Rule.
relative the count OF the electoral vote, which hid
been condemned ns wicket everywhere.
MIR. jiTrIIMON said Lc Wouid uOt bt So unchlritibls
to say t the Republican side desired 10 get raj OF II
Mr. MORTON said he had been trying TO get rid Of the
Twenty second Joint Rule ron year p,st
Mr. BANARD Dem, Deli spoke oi tie Twenty second
Joint Rule being tAe Ony one objectionable, aud read
from hs remarks Of the a,t se.son IN favor Oh thI
passage of law regulating The count OF the electoral
vote, instead Of dealing %ith me ful'ct by JOINT ruiz
object their origin, aud said he must Dhec 70 the oal.
heretofore taken by him, to tie effect that the JOINT
rules OF the House and the Senate aH much WITHIN
their control other rules, and might Dc terminated by
each House at their discretion.
Mr. EDMUNDS tIsep., w quoted at length from his
remarks this matter WAS before the Senate at tnc
last session. and also from the remarks OF Ma McrInon
MI MEKRIMON said at the last session he had given
the subject much attention, but after he heard the arg
mcn!s VI other senator's ne had rejected On the matter
and had changed his opinion.
Mr. EDMUNDs resuDing his argument. referred TO the
question before the House Of REPRESENTATIVES at the last
and audng 20 decision Of the late Speaker,
Mr. X m, said although he (Hr. Edmundsl disagreed
with MIN upon subjects OF general politics. long ANA
had departed from his career OF usefulness amid the
OF all good Prominent IN that great party
he noted not only an honorable, patriotic citizen,
but having the large views OF a statesman Con
tnuiug his argument he commented tue joint rules,
aud said they were simply standing orders Oi cacii
House of Congress IN the same language: lie argued
that each House hdd perfect Ight 10 retire from ncI
rules. There nothing IN any OF these SOcdllcd
but the simple independent choice Of each House OF
Congress IN regard TO guiding It's own cOnduct.
After further debate by Messrs MERIIMON, ED
MUNDS, and Others the question being the appeal OF
Mr.. MerrIn0n from the decision of the Char, the
decision was sustained by Yeas, So Nays follows.
(epublicms ia roman, Democrats IN italIcs Independ
ents III small Caps):
AlcOrn, COckreH, Hitchcock, Patterson
Allison. COnking, Howe prirr
Anthony, COnOyer, Ingalls,, Rdndylph,
BdgaTd, Cooper, herman, Sargent,
Blame, CfaglD, Ogan, sherman,