, 1876-03-24

Q.--You approved Of that transaction. dl1n't
yon7 A.-Ne.er was sskei abont that
hand Al wa not.
Q.-Wero you aware that your firm, or soma
motnbora Ct II. were making
FA18E RETURNS
ness2 A.-No. don't know that did.
Q.-Didn't you know thoY were compelled 10
mako returns to tho uovernneut7 A.
Q.-Don's you tnoo many Of those returns
wero faleo7 Al expect they wore.
Q.-You approved OF that. touf AL wasn't
consultod about that. lot this business be- run
by Junker.
Q.-You neyor consulted With Juntor IA to tho
perjury branch OF tho nl.ssnoSs7 A.-No. sir.
Q.-Did lo taye exclusive charge Of thnt7 A.
Yes. pretty much.
Q.-Dld you have anybody slss Al ~ cmployo
or principal who Ind any nhAro n tho perjury
branch ct tho busiuess7 A.-Whas do you
Incani
Q.-!Tho fa'ss.sweartng brauct-rae II evor
turned over to anybody otso hcstdes Junker
Al don't Know anything about tho falso
swearing know ho R1fofo tu tho statements. I
signed ono Or tro, but noror swoso to any OF
tLotn.
Q.-Do you remember whether yor ovor agncd
any Of theso falso returns? A.-Nover signed
moro than t"o or throe and that WAS poi1lnps
whom nobody o1sa was In. Jnnkcr made out the
monthly reports and LAID shoin II, tho drawer, and
generally ssnea, som' except .l .pcrsps sgned
~ Whc ia 'a so~i 1st ~ not ~,
Wien he camo 10 Inn oalco. "rf''' 0'3
Wr Aver Hutor.nn,jnnl- m ca, Inns r,,.,t-
or ho I'D o. not goa gomatmus thay
took tho reports to tho oEco.
DETAILS WANTED.
q. {bY Mr. StorrB} Can you give mo The serial
number Of any cask or package received from
D'-Cnn WI, vtvo ma ,bo 4ot w,,cn mug ano,o
packapo va raeeiyedf Mo t ran aav IN
recotvod tn March, was At that tina mostly In
timen #, tho mnutfs o'sA
II-W,,nrn 80 Tin t,a,,s ,,,t.;,t,r, ,,,n x,,
ords o, those .qansactions3 ion;t l:,aw NV 'oo
O,-iIow loun eioco YOU haye geon @ yonr bnoks2
4 auppEy crnE.
o-wben vorn rnn tnJlrtct,7 , Al don,t
know nInctv. wa stcl, nj Inn linn T va IN.
tit"tad """ 0'sA ~ s'' ''4''' "@o Az
plead guilty Al was. ''~ ~ 'N1 '14
I'LL you 10 n,oan e y "as nn
what nmdien h.-Wbat do voI, mar
o. mean, wasn't ii pretty quick didn't you
cot woil' winn II vaa nnnn,inretl that van wsrc
n nea ,uiiy nrosty mcs nnisx wv "s1o
not ouito Vol yot i wsnt cut bafore that 5av.
-two or three weeks.
n-Tlid von have any communication with
vor nartnar w,tb % reforenes sns to MIL
rr'vImSn nr,TIrv
baforo von did nIen.l7 Al Iti, sir.
Odd YOU understand yo,, wero to havo any
Inn nj A iftt,t md md
further: but told htm / noyor would ooosout
10 it.
h.-Yes.
Q.-liaa your sentence ever boon passed. 4.
No. eir. not that know Of.
O.-Did Won undoratand that having n]endad
guilty, you wero 10 be used a. witness by tho
O.-Wnro YOU wituess bnfore the Grand
Jury Al vaH
~ Ia ~
that large number OF duplicate packages,
coming from YOUR house, we're discovered by
tho Goyernment5 Al do some Of tnom,
Q.-Wnen't this distiIlery run in conuoctiou
with YOUR roctifYiug establishment, and In that
way we1o not tho frauds committed on tho Goy-
ernmont2 Al suppose 80.
Q.-Don's you know it.? A.-presty certain.
6.-Whon did tho frauds batween tlo rectfy-
ing establishment and the dissItory begn-tho
swsn1ing? A-What do you meau by tie
swiuding7
OIL Will moderate that will call the trans
actions fraudulent, since you are eo.ting aenal-
actiy.
Q.-You were Interested In this Union Copper
Dlssillipg Company Al was shareholder
there was Theodore KrAGt Jupker, K,ssiugcr OF
Milwaukee,, aud myself.
Q,-Whcu did YOU begin these opes4ttopB
A,-About the ilrst Of Apr,i. 1879,
Q,-Apd you began to deftatd tbs Govern
me9t aud raa yous dls.ille1y aud reet'fyine g.
two ways: either shut up and 20 into bank
runtcy Or do a. The others world DO, We did Il
aB
\ NATTER OF NECESSITY.
cessI,y N"'A~
~eTT' ia 'f,orr.-y,r csod,,t x,av.r TINT.
dtNWera tha faiso oaths msttsr Of n. cas-
Sn} rho ronrt-yor psofn,t .navor that
nNf1ov tarrn wcre te rr.1,ds 1,ernctr,tet1
unm tho rovotnnnnt IN connection with vour