The New York herald., 1876-12-08
Debate on the Report Of the Louisiana
Visiting Committee.
Republican Defence Of the Re-
turning Board.
THE ELECTORAL VOTE OF OREGON
Republican Denunciation of the Ac-
tion of Governor Grover.
SENATE.


SENATE.
WASHINGTON, Dec 7. 1874
The CHArR laid before the Senate communication
signed by Carl Schurz and J. b. Henderson, dated ST.
Louis, December l. praying that q constitutional
amendment be submitted to the various States BY
which the counting OF the electoral President
Vice President and declaring tho result thereof bo
conferred upon the Supreme Court OF tho United
States
Mr. EDxusDs, (ren) OF VT, moved that the commu
nica:ion be laid the table, tho subject haying
already been reported to the Senate SO ordered
Mr. ANTHONY, (rep) Of Il. l., from the Committee on
Printing to which referred the motion 10 print
tho dispositions accompanying tho communication OF
Hon. John Sherman and others to the President in
gard TO tho late election in Louisiana, reported
favor OF printing all the deposi.ions.
Mr. SALISBURY, (dem.) OF Del, member OF tho
Committee Printing, dissented from report Of
the majority and said he could give his consent
publishing such matter. He honestly believed that
all these partc should not be distributed
TO the public testimony
Mr. MCDONALD, (dem.) OF Ind, said he willing to
print all the testimony both sides bearing on the
lato election in South Carolina Louisiana and Florida
OF democratic committee which attended tho
sion OF the Returning Board in New Orleans, to tho
effect that the Tldcn electors bad majority
in LOUISIANA and also from the preamble OF the report
made to tho House Of Representatives by committee
of that body the 23d day OF February 1875 in
gard to elections In that State.
Mr. SHERMAN (rcp) OF OHIO, in reply to question Of
Mr.. Mcrrimon sad there three classes OF testi-
mony presented with the communication.
Etrxf--Orul
Board and tho proceedings OF the Board.
Second-The statement OF the supervisors Of cleo
tons and afidavits sworn to by them.
Third-The testimony taken, according to the laws
OF Louisiana, on intcrrogatories and crossn,erroga
tories
Mr. EAroS. (dem) of Conn. opposed tho printing OF
the Documents because they were not brought here
gard the late election South Carolina Florida and
Louisiana would be taken both by tho Senate and
House OF Representatives and that should be printed
not this partisan matter.
ARGUMENT OF MR. THURMAN
Mr.. THURMAN tdem.) OF OHIO, said he did not object
TO tho printing OF these papers because be wanted
suppress the publication oi any facts, but ho aid
want public opinion to be loressnled by premature
publication OF only part OF the facts. He op-
posed to scattering broadcast tho land this
sied statement that conclusions might bo formed
IT, II this matter should ne delayed till all tho
testimony fully produced, II would bo
shortly. be would not object TO the publica-
Louisiana Retur ming Board, and SAID this was
tho third time that that Board had set aside
tho Will OF tho people OF the State Now the matter
whole Republic, and he (Mr. Thurman) wanted to
scrunzs inc testimony upon which this extraordinary
caguc (Mr. Shcrman) had stated the acts Of tho Re-
turning Board, iar as hc knew them he (Mr. Shcr-
sessions ms Of that Board The country wanted
to know what tho secret resolutions Of that
hy OF 1000 for Tilden was converted into a
majority OF 5000 for Hayes and Wheeler That was
IN secrecy, and the worst kind of secrecy Tho
vacancy in the Board filled aod tnc reason
o this the miserable pretcx that the Board could
not agrco upon man. Not ono OF the 81 900 men
Louisiana Who voted for Tilden could be named but
what members OF the Board were for tho appoint
mcnt aud TWO against IL The very thing It's lace
showed determined purpose 10 do wrong. Had
there been democrat on the Board he would have
what done IN secret All tho whItowasbing
the world could not wpc out or hide this guilt The
majority OF this Senate might make efforts ioresta
public opinion and distribute this testimony, but 1t
would 60 10 the country stamped with tho stigma OF
being a sided statement He protested against tho
publication Of these depositions IN the name OF lair
play. He hoped they would allowed to lay upon the
table until tho other side should be heard frun
PRINT all.
spguar spectacle here OF denunciaion OF the Return
ing Board OF Louisiana Tor fraud, while ut the
made 10 laying before the country
the upon which the action Of that Board
basel The Democratic Committee in New Orleans was
invited by the Republican Committee 10 publish tho
testimony taken by H. together with that taken by the
republicans but the democrats were not willing to
make public their l. before tho Board.
They wanted to wait 10 get more testimony and thus
have d case winch was not before the Board. Th,y
thus csscd that they were not satisfied with their
ease. wanted to make This free
nuncatiJa OF the Returning Board unfair. If tho
Board cied unfairly let the democrats bring forward
their evidence to that effect Hc was not AFRAID oil the
Mr.. THURMAN said he did not know why the Demo
cratic Committee in New Orleans declined to furnish
their testimony tho Republican Committed but mad
he mcmoer OF the Democratic Committee he
would have refused TO iurnsh the testimony, and ho
thought the committee acted fairly in refusing 10 iur
nish the republicans with their testimony. His COL
league (Mr ShcriLan) and comrades went to New
orleans at the request Of the President. They
nat tha tefnOC IL ffao
President. Pres t bu. asked ,ha. tR the democratic tic
testimony be placed in their hands that thcy-hc Ave
republican gentIomen-might mako up the verdict and
tend II 10 the President Who constitutcd the Scna
from Ohio Nlr Shrrman) and his four
New Orleans the sole judges this case? There
atime In the history OF This nation when tho
more severn than now, and everything done by
Congress should sct an example OF calmness 10 tho
people
be brought to bear the other side could
the dilemma IN which The democrats werc placed
When tho Republican Committee IN New Orleans, SAID
be, offered to lay the whole testimony OF both sides
before tho country the democrats declined TO furnish
that OF their sidc when the republicans for
ward 10 publish what they they were asked by tho
democrats not to do so.
REaARKs or Mr.. SHERMAN
Mr. SHERMAN, OF Ohio, defended The action OF the
committee with which he acted Said the commit
tee presented every particle OF testimony which they
could get They tried TO obtain all borh sides.
could not do so. lie argued that 1t The tcstI-
moay now before the senate that the decision OF the
Returning Board was made.
Mr.. THURMAN said Il upon one side OF the case
that the Returning Board rendered It's decision and
reversed popular majority of 1000 Where, asked
he, Is tn. statute which authorized the committee
which visited New OrIeans to report TO tho prcsacntY
The members OF that committee were not public ON
Ii they the President invited none but
members OF his own party 10 servo on the committee.
rhc attempt TO place the garments OF Office on this
thing will not 90
Mr.. EpxuSDs, OF Vermont SAID that the third Sec
tion Of The second article OF the constitution OF The
United States required the President OF the United
Statcs 10 transmit TO Congress- from timo 10 time
formation regarding the state OF tho Union. lie
commanded 10 perform that duty and bound TO obey
the command. To obtain Information ia regard 10
of tho States OF the Union the President invited
citizens to visit that State and obtain such in
formation. and alter he II hc communicated
to Congress- lie believed IT'S character Justified it's