The New York herald., 1876-12-04
ClRPET-DACCERS AND SClALWAGS TO TIE REAR.
Senator Lamar To Be rendered q
Seat in the Cabinet.
REFORM IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
No Prominent Supporter Of Grant To Be Ad-
mitted to The New Court.
[BY TrLzaRAPH TO rHz HERALD. !

[By TEL7GRAPH TO THE HERALD
CINCINNATI, Dec 8, 1875
The Enquirer published yesterday despatch
from Columbus giving, at some length, rather
curious story about some expressions of Governor
President The story has not attracted much atten-
ton or belief here because Of the quarter in which it
appears and because also, OF certain details which
are incorrectly stated.
am in position to give you q correct and accu.
rate account Of the whole matter, which was in
tended by Governor Hayes and his friends to be
kept secret. AS IL has leaked out through somc-
body's indiscretion some OF the friends or the
Governor now think 1t best to make the correct
story public.
THE CORRECT STORY.
The Governor has never been in sympathy with
those republicans who pressed the Southern issue
and he has no sympathy at all with the
carpet baggers and adventurers like Gov
emor Chamberlain in South Carolina or
Governor Kellogg in Louisiana. He has waited i'm
patiently for an opportunity to let honest Southern
men know his real Views, and assure them that they
need not fear II he should become President, that
the abuses in the SOUTH which General Grant has
tolerated and encouraged would be continued.
MIR. LAMAR DECLINES.
After consultation with two three of the safest
advisers, he concluded that 1t would be well to see
~rNr
gentleman was written to by Mr.. Halsted accord
ingy, and asked to stop in Cincinnati for conver-
sation on his way to Washington When
he got there Mr.. Halsted informed him OF
Lamar was at first inclined to go to Columbus from
here and meet Governor Hayes, but on considera-
tion thought such meeting at this time unwse as
possibly committing both him and the Governor to
matters which altered circumstances might make
inconvenient. He said that he did not at this time
wish to see Governor Hayes hand, nor was he
prepared nor did he feel the time had come to talk
over Southern questions with him. He therefore
declined in a courteous note, and went on his way
hence to Washington.
THE GOVERNORS PROGRAMME.
Colonel Roberts, who is, l believe, managing editor
OF the New Orleans Times, and q gentleman OF
ability and reputation, was thereupon asked to go
ana see Governor Hayes, with view to get at the
Governors ideas, so as to be able to communicate
them to Mr.. Lamar. Colonel Roberts went from
here TO Columbus by appointment OF Governor
Hayes, and had a long conference with him at the
Governors house, and Governor Hayes explained to
him very frankly his political programme. The
conference was private, Of course and was in
tended to be kept so, but as an incorrect
story has got out, it Is now thought
best by the friends OF Governor Hayes to let the
public know precisely what was said. 1t should be
promised that the Governor is very wcll informed
on Southern affairs, has made them study, has
friends in some Southern States and did not need
information from Colonel Roberts.
WHAT GOVERNOR HAYES SAID.
He said to Mr.. Roberts that he wished Mr. Lamar
and also General Hampton and other Southern men
like them to know and to be assured that he be-
eved himself fairly elected TO the Presidency; that
man and have his own policy; that no person
who had been prominently concerned In the ad-
ministration OF General Grant, whether in wash
ington or elsewhere, should have any Office or
power under his administration. He thought re-
form absolutely necessary, and impossible except
by calling in new men and dropping the men now
in power and place. About this he spoke, as 1t is
known he feels very positively.
HAYES SOUTHERN POLICY.
As to the South the Governor said that he desired
to consult with such men as Mr.. Lamar and General
Hampton; thathc thought Hampton had acted no
BILE part in recent events In south Carolina for which
the country owed him thanks; that II he became
President he should wish to call Mr.. Lamar into his
Cabinet and should not ask him. in that event, to
abandon his present political relations; that he
meant to frame his Southern policy on the advice
of these two gentemen; to make the federal ap-
pontments in the southern States upon their rec
concentrations, and entirely OF Southern men,
sdering this the only proper disposition of these
offices. lie said, frankly, that carpetbag govern
mcnt had not been successful; that the complaints
OF the Southern people were just in this matter;
that he should require absolute justice and fair
play 10 the negro, but that he was convinced this
could be got best and most surely by trusting the
honorable and influential Southern whites and