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Ways That Are Dark and Tricks That
Are Vain by Ex-Confederates.
EVERY FACILITY FOR REPORTERS.
Why Did Proctor Knott Suppress the Cable
Despatch Of Caldwell!
TEXT OF THE FAMOUS DOCUMENT.
Presidential Aspirations Of importance to
Some and Indifference to Others.
Warrington June I. 1870

WASHINGTON, June Z. lS7d
The sub-Judiciary Committee to-day continued tho
investigation Of the matters affecting Mr. Blaine. Be-
fore proceeding to the examination OF witnesses Mr.
Frye, behalf Of Mr. Blaine requested that the elc
gram received by Mr. Knott from Josiah r. Caldwell
from London BIO printed connection with the rest OF
the testimony ordered by the committee.
Mr.. Hunton said the ub-committce had official
knowledge of the OF such a telegram; that
was a matter in the hands OF the full committee.
Mr.. Ashc said he never heard Of the despatch till
Hr. Blaine alluded to it the floor
Mr.. Hunton said he knew Of IT. but was not certain
hat he
Mr.. Blaine-Do you know why Mr.. Knott did not
ny II before the subcommittee?
Mr.. Hunton--You will have to ask Mr. Knott about
hat.
Mr.. Dlane-I did ask, but could not End out.
Mr. Frye submitted motion THAT the subcommittee
equest the tu committee to furnish the despatch Tor
publication with the testimony which Mr. Hunton SAID
would BIO takon into consideration by the sub-com-
mttec.
Benjamin F. Rice, OF Little Rock, Arkansas testi-
fed that he never had any connection with the Union
Pacific Company; never had anything to do with the
Fort Smith and Little Rock Railroad; he was at one
time made Secretary Of tho road and understood that
some shares transferred to his in order
qualify HIM as director, but he never received the
stock, and refused to do and had anything to
do with it, knows nothing about the seventy bonds
which have been spoken Of only he has read about
them in the public prints; knows that some OF tho
stock went Fisher and j. Denckla; has heard gen.
sra rumor that used to influence legisla-
lion in behalf Of the road but knows OF specific
Of that kind knows absolutely nothing about the rail-
here in his presence.
. u
he was lana commissioner OF the Fort Smith and
Little Rock Railroad and director in the fall Of 1873
does not know anything about tho disposition OF the
bonds and stock OF tho road knows nothing about the
stock of that road that into the hands Of the
Union Pacific road only what he has the papers
since this investigation commenced: knows of the
sale OF ten or dozen bonds only; they brought about
sixty; no bonus went with the bonds which he knew
Of being sold; knows nothing of the bonds which went
into the hands OF Colonel Thomas A. Scott and never
heard Of them until tho matter in this
mittee.
Mr. Blaine said he would like to look at the record
Of the committee to when this sub
was appointed.
Mr. Hunton-This subcommittee has no more right
with the record than any other member OF the COM
mttee The record is in charge Of the clerk.
Mr. Blane--Is it necessary for tho clerk to DO hero
before we can open the book and examine ity
Mr. Hun,on-Mr Frye any other member has as
much right to look the book the sub committee
has.
Mr.. Blane-Then If Mr.. Frye can look at 1t will
look at it,
Mr.. Blaine walked over and took the book, saying
question OF vcracity had arisen between Mr. Knott and
himself, and he regretted that Mr. Knott not
present He wanted to exhibit TO the world that the
records show that the subcommittee was appointed
May 3 the Tareox resolution passed May ,, while
Mr.. Knott had stated the door of the House last
Monday that he bad appointed the sub committee long
before the Iarbox resolution was passed He desired
TO show the records the committee did not bear
out the statement OF the chairman Mr. Knott
!. A. Green was then sworn. wnereupon Mr. Blame
said ne understood that the committee now going
into another branch OF The investigation.
Mr.. Hunton--How do you know itg
MT. Bsaine-iou so stated TO me yourself
Mr.. Aunton--Wel, II you say did, presume IL IL
80, though do not recall it,
Mr Blame SAID he had in the papers that this
ness was gong to be examined IN relation 10 transactions
Of himself Mr Biaine with j. d. stewart He desired
to have Mr. stewart present when the witness testified
Mr. Hunton-Do YOU wish Mr.. Stewart summonedf
Mir Hunton--very well; il shall bc done
Mr. Hunton notified the Sergeant-al-Arms to summon
Mr. Stewart by tclesr aph at
The witness then testified that he resided in ST.
Joseph, Mo-, and was acquainted with the business
Of the Kansas Pacific Railroad Company.
Mr.. Fryc--Mr. Blaine has asked that tho examina-
ton OF this witness be deferred i Mr. Stewart shall
present DO understand that request to be deniedf
u. H.
Mr.. Baine--I desire 10 make that request now
Mr.. Hunon--The committee will take u into con-
Sidcration.
Nr. Hunion was proceeding with the examn ation
when Mr.. Blaine objected to talking OF the Kansas
matter tilI tho se4ooo question was disposed o..
AIR. Hunion--why do you object? We are invcstga-
ting the Union Pacific Railroad. THIS Will probably
take us three months TO complete.
Mr. Blainc-f Though u is the Union Pacific, want to
show that IL is aimed at me. and that for purpose
Mr.. Hunion--l want to say that, when you charge
that this investigation was set on loot Tor purposes
against you, you state what Is not want 10 mako
u thorough, Al the ssmc time as kindly as II can DO
tone
After some consultation the witness said he would
like TO go with his statement and he would remain
here and meet Mr. stewart long Mr. Blaine the
committee should desire. Thercupon Dir. Blaine
waived his request and tho witness testified that In
1864 the Eastern Division OF the Union Pacific Railroad
made contract with Samuel haet build the road,
and agreed to give him all their bonds and stock and
whatever else he could obtain the road the way
Of subsidies from Congress. Mr. iiaiset look In As
partners Nr. Ferry and Thomas q Durant. In octo-
Der 1864 Mr. Haet turned $50 900 OF the bonds
TO j. b. Stewart the latter acting counsel and WAS
The author OF tho tenth section 81 the Of Congress
oflscl, whereby the credit Of The road was strength
ened
While the witness Green was testifyng Mr.. Knott
came IN, and spirited coioquy took place between
Messrs Blaine Knott, the latter saying that the
former had raised question OF ycracty between them
concerning the appointment OF the subcommittee
Mr.. Blaine Intercepted nm. wishing to know why he
bad withheld the Telegram till this umc several days
having elapsed The reply was that he wished verify
IT, Mr. Blaine sald that could TO done by tslerr M
10 the London office. Mr. Blaine expressed the belief
that VI the telegram had contained anything against
him Mr.. Knott would have given IL to the public al
once, TO which Mr.. knct said with much sarnestness
advancing to him
what DO you say. sir' What do you says Do you
mean that would do you an inlustceyn
10 which Mr. Blame replied, retaining his seat, 81
believe n the despatch had contained anything
aging to you would have speedily made II public.
that's what say" hr. Hunton called upon both gen.
tlemen to cease in,errgping each other both
would have an opportunity for explanation. Mr..
KNOT explained how he appointed the subcommittee.
and the members verified his statement, but II did not,
for some reason, appear on the record. Mr.. Blame
was right according 10 the records OF the committee,
and MI, Knott right on tho matter OF fact con-
csrning the Time when the subcommittee was APP
pointed
Mr.. Hunton--Mr. Knott desires to make statement
~ this point regard 10 tho appointment OF the sub
committee.
Mr. knott have just been told that Mr. Blame has