The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1876-03-23
F0RTY-FOURTH CONGRESS.
DETISIN0 a PLAN TO COUNT THE
PRESIDENTIIL IOTES


A Debate showing the Growing Di.trust In
Politicians Conscience md iionor-A
Biii Prohibiting the as-cs,ment of Federal
Onlcrrs for Political Purposes Pensions.
wAsnISGToN, March 22.-m the Senate
10 day MIR. Frelinghuyscn tRep., N. j., from tho
Committee on Foreign Relations, reported IA
vorably on tho petition OF the New York Cham
Der OF Commerce in relation to the japanese In
domnity furd, and reported hill In accord nee
with said petition Placed ON the calendar
The morning hour having Npired the Senate
Resumed consideration OF ths bill providing Tor
counting the votes for President and Vice Pre-
dent.
Mir. Johnston Dem. Va briefly discussed the
amendment offered toy himself. which read';
Itge sgga,c n9p 10Y corgn ,5o 9gc oa
meeting " Tue TWO Houses shall finally eeicrnine
from en- siats. ncludlnr lie senators tor from.
shsii be ,au,S d,ii.diis vote shall NOT b, coanici
The amendment was lost. yea. II. nays 70. Tho
question " thea taken on pr Coopcrs ainchd-
mcnt, which reads ~ flllONs;
And II the two Houses do NJ nercc a. 20 which rc
turn sna t. count u ,n NJ iV yc. ,nn o. ny
IN ihe MAJ p,os y, 1 "nsitatl2n IN W.Sa ~
tn, and Na.G rctgrn
And II TVS lost. yeas II. nevs35. Tho question
then occurred on the + loving amendment pro
posed ty Nj. Nax'y Of IcSasi
But II the two Houses IN to agree M to Wilton OF
the returns shan hc ruunted. then Ia President -
sennte us urc.irg iicrr IL the two Hou., snlld
eide vii ch i. IN. tfu nd ,and reiurn, the same
shali b. conutci
Mr. r!aunds (Rep., VIZ oppoaed II. and did
not THINK hnN thing Ia tho Constitution eu.uoN-
cred the President II the senate to decide. II
did not considerable the President II the senate
was the preceding officer I either House when
they vere IN JOINT session. 1t "a truc ne sta
ihere, and may Keep the two Hon es III order.
but he T. piesi cent " neither House while they
are Inv Joint session. But the amendment was
open 10 craver objections than that II often has
happened. and may often happen again, thlttho
presiding uicer q the senate may be cnndl-
date fOr the oiirr Of President, and to allow
him 10 decide which l. the true and valid return
would hc - allow him {, cav whether lie snail
be the Pre- .ident II III, United II ties.
Nr. sarr M crop. ca thought It. VIVA rof-
haps test TO leave all ainendm.nts cut of tho
bill, ana ic " II - reported. II We are to give
the power to any ono mnn, he was not certain
but the President II the senate was the risat
man. H. thought that any msn who was Vice
Prcsden. and who was candidate for th'
Presidency. would hive too much honor TO de-
eide wrnngfully IN TT. own favor. II II could be
shown that he mad done SO, he would incur such
dlsplessure II tho American people rs would
place his ra're beside tn . Of Benedict Arm Ia,
or even Judas lscariOt. and the fear OF this ~
..sng Of (, ling. he thou .ht, would be a sui
Acion. safeguard. and he would support tbs
pending anenii. ent.
Mr. Eimunds was s,irprlscl to hear such doc
.rnes put forth. AID stil TN 4, In his own ohsci-
fa'ion, cOnfci sncc mi honor werc tOp a9s 10
eau towali stlf-ln,cr'st.
siOing that. II sny votes had boon cast Tor .. .
vice T. .iasnt, hy might re'iro from the I. 81
ton of presiding nicer of the i'int session on
this uccisicl.
Mr. Cameron Olep.. Pa.l slid that men had
been found j. re 70 give I. ~ dpIbts q their
opponents. and NJ do b. s.ch th.nl might
occur ngain. Ia the lluchback case Sent r.
gave their DOUBT 10 their adycrslIie-.
Mr. LariuLcs- No; We gave cur cert -iLties
In MI ease.
nv Cameron Well men had given their
doun.s, and RAT deprived Nr linchbach Of ais
seat IA inis b dy. and men were just as apt to
Do Ia thing Ian.
Nj. Nazey defended hls own Amendment
after which the lie was taken. ma the aueul-
mcni Uns sf-vnas. :; nays. -.
Mr.. I. imunds s1il u Was evident that thew
roulf unt NAish tae bill to-day. II VS. an IN
tere4'ing SUBJECT, and would bear more discus
sion, 80 d ia 81 VII move that the senate 20 lat }
executive asston. Agreed to.