The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-04-07

examined James Trainer, post trader ~ Fort Concno
Texas He testified that he sutler al Fort coneho
from 1867, when the post established, and up 10
1876; when the Secretary Of War was vested with au
thorty TO appoint, he to Washington armed with
recommendations for at the post, and saw
tho Secretary OF War; who told him to 70 and SO Gen.
eral Hedrick he Hcdrck and the result was that,
although Hedrick appointed IN his place TO the
post witness did the busnes post trader; he paid
A. c. Leighton who went to Fort concho with letter
OF authority countersgned by General Belknap secre
tary OF War, ST. 500 in greenback and afterwards paid
TO Hedrck 81, 600 through mail contractor named
Cheney, by draft Northup 4 Chick. bankers in
New York; tho agreement between witness and Leigh
ton that hc pay 81, 500 in cash and $1,000
In year II the post paid; he also paid draft Tor
81, 900, drawn by Mr. Sawyer, mail contractor, now
dead, and docs not know for whom II was intended;
Sawyer asked IL and he paid IL without asking ques-
tons; hc also paid 500 $500 10 General W. 7.
Clark, member OF Congress from Texas; this was
paid at three different times the first payment beng
in currency at the st. Nicholas Hotel, New York. and
the other two by drafts; he always regarded these
payments as charity Clark said he was ''hard VI :"
and asked the money as a loan; witness did not cx.
pcct TO get lack had he got II back witness said
he paid $3.50 currency in the barroom OF the Mctro
politan Hotel to Simon Wo Recorder OF Deeds WASH
ington; Wolf was TO have $1,000 II he got him tho
post, but he failed had Wolf since his return
had also paid $3.50 assessment for political purposes;
he also Postmaster the time salary OF sl5
year.
Witness created great amusement In tho committee
by his peculiar movements, manner Of speech and
witty rcmarks
He said that when he paid the ST. 900 to Hcdrck he
told Cheney and Leighton that he did not intend to
pay any more
J. Freidlandcr post trader at Fort Stockton, and
George Bowers, post trader Fort whpple Arizona,
were examined. Neither had paid money directly or
indirectly to any for their appointment contnu-
ance in Office.
Attorney General Pierrepont testified that about the
middle OF December last man named C. Bell sent
In his personal card TO his Office, aud subsequently
called with card from the Presidents this card Is lost
mislaid thrown INTO the waste baskct-t reac some
thing ike this
The bearer wishes TO get employment; think he
might render valuable service
Boil then said he wanted employment in tho Secret
Service and high wages were given In that ser
vice; Bell seemed to talk in a commanding way; the
witness told him he would the President nrst in
the Cabinet meeting day; In the Cabinet meeting
he asked the President II he knew anything about tho
man the President answered that he had either known
heard Of him during the scout detective
and that he now wanted appointment the Secret
Service: Bell called the day aud asked II he
To employed; witness questioned him as 10 what ser
he had heretofore answered that he had
been employed by the District Attorney at st. Louis
because OF extraordinary he had OF getting At
papers the possession Of Joyce he said he left
St Louis because Dyer had the he said
that Dyer would write or telegraph that he
wanted to employ him; witness would act promptly In
making tho appointment and preparing tho nstruc-
tions; Bell came In next day or tho day after and
showed despatch he had sent - Dyer to the c0cct
that II Dyer would employ him the Attorney General
would sanction there interval Of few days.
during which time Bell did not call, but In the mean
time the had talked with the Secretary OF The
Treasury and the Postmaster General and found that
his record in these departments was very bad; he
never know of Bells existence before he first pro-
scented his card and has never seen him he
fused to give him his appointment; neither Babcock
or Luckey had spoken him about Bell; witness SAID
said that the interview Bell speaks Of in his testimony
entirely imaginary and denied evory part OF
Bells evidence referring to him where II con1ictcd
with this statement
A. G. Bradley was sworn and tcstiAcd:-
roside4n Washington and know q. 8. Bell; first
met HIM in 81 Louis IN November last, between
Thank Soy :. pvv the 10Th OF Novu1nber; nrst
heard d him through Mr. Luckey; the 4th 'or No
vetnOor General Baucock he had received telc-
telling him 10 TO 81 IsOu6 us name liud
been mentioned In the Mcdowell casei General Bah
cock aske 20 there hts counsel, and ascer-
tain for him all could in relation TO the matter and
II necessary send for him 10 come went TO ST. Louis,
aud IN few days alter l got there met Mr..
Luckey; about. Thanksgiving Day Mr.. Luckcy told
had some relation with Averys matter, and that he
had been engaged to 60 Indianapolis and the
Hodge dispatches; he said that Mr. Bell said he had
the OF the Dstrct Attorneys Office, and he either
offered thcre and steal all o. tho papers and have
them copod thcm for the purpose Of destroy
astounding be did not put much iaith IN him. subse.
quently Mr.. Bell returned from Indianapolis aud
brought copies Of the Hodge despatchcs went 70 Mr.
Luckey's room, and Mr.. Bell I'M at nrst BIO do
clined to say anything in my presence; Mr.. Luckey
told him that unless no talked In my presence no
would not talk ~ all; madc a memorandum OF some
ploycd by Mr.. Dyer, but that he solid
with Colonel Dyer, because he was working up fraud
perpetrated BY the Gas Company that he was friend
of the President, and that he desired to serve HIM
because he thought there was conspiracy 10 drag
him down; tina: there influence conspiTing
with Secretary Brslow at the head oft, TO supern
ducc the downfall OF the President; he SAID that
during the Mcdonald trial Brissow wrote TO Dyer de-
maniing that the Washington papers be put In evil
dence far they related 10 General Babcock; Dyer
said he had head TO lose. and no
month month until the time OF the Presidential
erection, wheL Il will botter that be heard Dyer
say How will this their bowelssn referring to
the Babcock kilograms; he said that hc had heard
Henderson say that be would see U. s. Grant IN hell
before he would help him; when Bell made these state
his statements; Judging from Bells statement that
there conspiracy against General Grant
and concluded TO get as much Information from him
could never authorized Bell nor any one else 10
bring any papers TO my room nj the Lndc Hotel aud
destroy them; asked HIM 70 get all the Information
he could " the nature oil the evidence against Gen.
era Babcock and 10 get such copies he could when
] left 81 Louis told him, II lie was unable to get
copies OF the evidence, TO send mo the substance
far Luckcy concerned, he had moth
ing 10 DO with Bell; before | left WASH
ington General Babcock never authorized me
TO do anything which illegal or improper what
ever; alter returned To Washington received let
from Boil; IL concluded by asking Its return,
.God knows there enough papers existence
now" Iook copy Of It and expected 10 give 10 tho
committee to-day but have not received III the letter
indictments OF Babcock. using forged let
tiers; also that Dyer had been cndcavoring
to procure letters from Joyce: witness
knowlcdgcd the identity OF letter written
by him 10 Bell, requesting hsm TO come TO Washing
ton and that he would be cared for snd continued
Bell on, and did not have much to do with him
afterwards no frequently called to borrow money. but
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