The New York herald., 1876-01-23
Damaging Testimony in the
Trial Of Mckee.
GOluminOuS Evidence of Direct Com
plicity in the Ring
CORRUPT NEGOTIATIONS.
OiStilleN and Government Officers Who Have
Turned InfOrmerS in Milwaukee.

The second day OF the Mckee trial has been full OF
excitement and characterized by very significant
developments concerning the defendants connection
With the whiskey "Ring" The testimony was ex-
lremely vouminous the great bulk OF it being repe
ution Of that given previous trials concerning the
rganizaton and operations Of the Ring" Only that
which relates directly William Mckee is here gyen
The first witness to-day Barnett H. Englecke,
prominent recther of ST. Louis. He said IL first
ucKee in 1865 when in the Quartermaster's De-
eartment have met him half dozen times since; in
October, 1874, had a conversation with him relative
% the Busby distllery; 1t at the Globe ofnce
IN Third street; went at the solicitation Of
Hardaway; stated to Mckee that came to see him
With referenc the Hardaway muddle; think he
asked what the matter was stated that had at
Hardaways request arranged two interviews with
Hardaway at the Planters House, and Joyce had prom
sed Hardaway two things that should be carried OUT
He promised that Henry Hardaway should be given
Interest the Bushv distilley and that the product
OF that distery should be subject TO levies for
<'Rirg" purposes; in consideration Of this Henry
Hardaway to take OF Chat Hardaway
Megrue and other fellows who threatened mischief;
hardaway complained that instead of acting in
good faith and living up to this agreement
however, joyce dealing double with him;
be complained that he had all the arrangements
made and his money ready to 60 into the Busby dis
u,
obstacles in his way; that Hardaway at that
time either in Washington expected shortly to be
there, when, in conjunction with Megrue, he going
10 devise some
SCHEME TO BREAK UP THE "RING'
unless they taken Of; Henry Hardaway de-
rlared that he had confidence in Joyce, and would
have nothing further to do with him unless the Busby
house arrangement was carried out; the washington
couple were to go to work and burst the whole
ns arransement they hey wished to have made was
with reference to Henry Hardaway going into the
Busby dlstillery; told him that Hardaway was TO go
into the Busby dstillery that the house should be al
lowed to run much as it pleased, and no dividends
were to be paid TO any members OF what understood
TO be the Ring the officers and others; that Henry
Hardaway was to see that Chat Hardaway and
Megrue to be taken Of ana that George Par
sons and the other outsiders would also taken
of that they ought to be satisfied OF their ability TO do
what they had threatened TO do the event OF the
rangement not being made; told Mckee that they had
brought Munns Supervisor of Illinois, here and
had gone around with HIM at night and showed him
what the Busby house was doing; also
told him that Chat Hardaway had was
about to have commission from the Secretary
Of the Treasury or Commissioner of Internal Rev
enue TO go through the district; | told him that
with the knowledge they had they could tell just where
20 strike the rng there some other conversation
that don't exactly remember and Mckee asked II
that was the only way in which they could be kept
quiet told himI had stated
that the only thing they would accept, and,
furthermore, Henry Hardaway had particularly
puested me TO say TO him tMckeeJ that he made the
bullets and Chat red them and that he (McKeel and
|he ring could stand II, they thc Hardawaysl could
Mckee then said ne would drop note to Joyce and
have him come over and see him; said that that
would be useless at that time Joyce had gone out
either to the Aurora the Teuscher distilley and
gould be found; Mckee then SAID '"Try and keep
lhem quiet for a few days and Will what be
tone' told him that would 30, Hardaway and
Barton we're outside waiting for me and wanted posi-
live answer; had promised TO give them positive
answer that evening one way the other; they had
icclared they would have no more ''shilyshallyng;"
Mckee told he would Joyce in the morning and
lor TO tell them that he would the arrange
nents that they had desired should be carried out
vent away and stopped at the salooH where had
agreed to meet Baston and Henry Hardaway but they
had left went around TO my office and there met
Hardaway and told him what Mckee had said; he
Ieemed saIshed; next morning met Baston and told
him the same thing and he likewise expressed satis-
action shortly afterward Henry Hardaway went into
ihe Busby dlstlery as manager, and remained till
about February when they mad row among them
Ieves and bursed up the distery was run according
10 the arrangement made, and the whiskey went TO
Bobbs house and my house for rectincationi took
Sbout 100 barrels; were brought with stamps and
lome without stamps; If they had stamp they sent
naked; II they had stamps they put them on II was
merely
At the time OF my conversation with Mckee, Mcgrue
Eas reported to be Washington; shortly
Iiter the indictment against Mckee had been
keturned by the Grand Jury | mad con-
fersation with him on the corner OF Third and
Olive streets, in Georges saloon; | went into tho
saloon at the invitation of Mr. FItzroy, to get drink
and found Mckee and Masuire IN there; Mckee
turned TO and sad:-''Are you not mistaken about
fhat conversation that you and had. did not recog
nzc you at the time you we're IN my oifce and after
you left asked young man in the Office who you
He stated that were formerly IN the Quar-
fermaster's office, and then ] remembered you. You
to get me TO assist you in securing the
lease of some goods Of yours that were seized
in Colorado. You said, Mckee, you know
Mcguire and have considerable influence with him
Now want to speak TO him 10 my behalf as have
some goods Colorado under SEIZURE words
effect; desire that you refresh your memory that
point and see II am not rght:n told Mr. Mckee that
Il was too absurd that i should 20 to him
10 invoke his influence with Mcguire for
interference with the concerns Of local officers of
Colorado; # had any goods under seizure there |
haN hat tn iA inn
then remarked something this effect: :-''Mr.
Mckee, you are old man and ought to have more
sense than to talk such nonsense" never had any
pther all of the which he de-
tailed; we required to make returns monthly of
Ihe amount OF spirits rectined by u.s. was re-
quired to any returns; nobody that know Of
had to swear TO returns; swearing was regarded
A NATTER OF PORN
In the law and insisted upon by the Collec
tor in case always signed any space which
puired signature IN the return blanks; IN 1871 1872
1S73 part OF 1874 the gauger was not required 10
certify the amount Of spirits recthed but after the
discovery that the records had been purloinod from
The Collector Office 1874 the gauger required
Buperntend the empying OF all packages Tor recthca-
hon II was the gaugers duty 10 gauge Ihe packages
after the rectined spirits were placed In them be
never did this, however; we didn't trouble ourselves
about gaugmg. out attended 10 drawing on tho spirits
te package and left IL TO tho gauger 10 oil IN the STUBS
Bhe gaugcr had an assstent at our house
S. d. Thorpe called aud tesiihed.-
have rcsidcd in ST. Louis since 1869; came from Gin
Tinnat Louis and into The express business,
Peing IN that business until 1871 after that went INTO
lhc United States service United states storekceper
! know Mcdonald, Joyce, Ftzroy Mcgrue, Everett
tnd Mckee; hrst became acquainted with Mr.. Mckee
bn 1873, when delivered a letter him from At. Me-
Yrue; there was spirits made upon which revenue
vas not paid at Curran's and Ulrcis. but there was
fome al Ihompson's and Choutcau's; at Curran's
pone was made because had orders from Joyce
POT 10 allow hum 70 make any he had trouble with the
sncers anu ihey didn't allow him 10 make any there
Eas none made at Ulric's becauae he not in the
-ring and they wanted 10 force hun IN; when
p'crooKed' whskey made Of the stamps used
Dn the street would be used over again; We made
A REPORT
n the amount OF grain received during the time at
these distiiieres; 70 receive 81 pcr barrel on
rooked whiskey for my services; ! received the
poney from Colonel Joyce; paid money frequently
20 A. ~ Everest; | first became acquainted with
Mckee when brought Megrue's letter to him from
Pew York IN August 1873; there no conversation
- that timei the next time him was at the Globe
bnlce durug some political contest; remember when
yegrue came here last June while the Grand Jury was
n session | Mckee that eventno ahont etoht