National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1876-02-18
RARCQcK TRIAL.


the tone Of them, and so on. recolleet him say
Of Missouri. and perhaps in 6rkan:as, at different
points, at all events, were willing TO publish as
editorial matter what he would write Tor them.
(Arswer objected to by counsel for the prosecu-
ton, as going beyond the scope Of the qucstion.)
Q. Did you have any conversation VITA Cen
eral Babcock prior TO May, $50, In reference 70
letter written by ]. J. Brooks to Deputy Com
missioner Rogers? Collected to by counsel for
the defendant) A. do not remember da.es,
but remember Of his showing me q letter tina;
had been handed him from somebody In Phtla.
delpbia to Mr.. Rogers, and he said that It ap-
peared In his Judgment to be simply blscSmail-
Ing, and think that was tho occasion on which
he told me what he had stated to Mr.. DougIa
that is as l remember now.
q. Do you remember that General Bab:ock,
prior to May, 1873, talked with you about the
pIopriety of sending detectives into the several
districts to detect frauds? a. i DO not. re-
member Of his telling me at one time of what he
had proposed to Mr.. Douglass, bat the date Of T.
/ do not remember, and that was not sugges-
tion to me; IL was merely what he bad suggested
to MI. Douglass, and this is the same that have
q. DO you remember when that conversation
was? A; No, do Got. Ny recollection is that
he bad shown that letter to Mr.. Douglass before
he had to me, and that was the occasion when he
told me Of his Suggestions.
q. Did Gen. Ra6cock, about the time of lis
close, show you a dispatch in these words: "St.
| Louie Dec ~ 1S7i-ien. o. f. Babcock, Execu-
tive Mansion. Washington, d; e.: Have you
talked with d? Are things right? How'll"
Objected TO by DEFENDANTS eounseI.) A. 1 do
| not remember anything about it.
q. Did Gen. Babcock, CT or about tho time OF
| its cate. show you dispatch in the following
| words: ''St. Louis, April %, lSi5-Gen. o. L.
Babcock, Executive Mansion. W ashlngton, ID. c.:
Tell Mack to SEQ Parker, Of Colorado, and tele-
| graph to Commissioner; crush out 81. Louis ene-
mies.LGrit:" OBJECTED to by counsel for de-
| fendan'.)
had endesvored to influence Commissioner Doug
lass to revoke that order. A. No.
Q. Since you say that Gen. Babcock has not
manifested to you any desire to interfere with or
prevent the trial OF the indictments against him.
self and others, will you be so good as to state
| whether any OF his friends for him have at any
| time, since these indictments were found, en-
deayored to prevent the trial Of the indictments
against him or any other Of the indicted parties,
and 4 SO please state who have made such efforts.
@. Will you please state why the order for the
court Of inquiry in Gen. BabcoeS' case was made
before the adlournmento Of the grand Jury which
| found the Indictment against him II you know
| A. Il was made because he applied for It, and j
self If he was innocent. He had been denied that
| opportunity before the grand jury.
q. Did General Babcock show you telegram
| from District Attorney Dyer saying that the
next conspiracy case would be tried on December
/ 10, 1875? A. He did. / do not remember abou.
q. Now, suppose, Mr.. President, tina. the
| substance Of your testimony is what We all know
to be true-that II there has been any misconduct
on the part OF General Babcock it has not come
to your knowledge? A. Yes, sir; that Is true.
q. You do not know, Of course, do yov, whether
| Mr.. Douglass suggested to Secretary Brlstow the
1
which you say he originally suggested to you?
A. do not know anything about It, excsp; from
| the Secretary himself.
was ordered from Philadelphia to st. Louis under
this order for transfer? A. That is my reeollec.
| ton, that he was ordered TO st. Louis.
know, of your own knowledge, Of course, whether
Redirect examination by MI. Uoot. HsndinS MA
| copy Of telegram to the witness.) i wIsh You
| would state what you know in relation to that.
A. The dispatch seems to be dated "W ashington,
and John NJ. krum: Your request in regard to
| the collectorship Will be complied with. U. S.
SIant:n These gentlemen are part of the
Constantine Mcguire for Ford's place as collector
Y, The ORIGINAL OF that is, I believe, in your
M NrISins ma a. Yes, sir wrote that. saw the
Tor the prosecution on the ground Of incompe-
tency irrclevancy and immateriallty.)
q. What was the character Of the correspond
ence between Mr.. Joyce and General Bab,ock as
exhibited to you? OBJECTED to as incompetent
and calling for secondary evidence, and being as
whole, irrelevant to the issues Of the easel 4.
Ny answer to that Is the same as has been given
and objected to.
q. What was the general character Of the ex-
plantation Of the dispatch to which your attention
has been directed, as given you by General Bah
cock? Objected TO by the counsel for the prose-
cution on the ground that it Is irrelevant and i'm
material, aud that the declarations of the ac:u sed
evidence in his favOr.) A. The explanations
which he gave seemed to me to clear up all
grounds Of suspicion against him.
y. What was the general character OF these
explanations: Same objection as to the pre-
IicGs GuestIon.) A. 1t was generally n state.
meLt Of their mea.tpg and what they were in
Tine Eis explanation OF any one Of them.
q. Eut the explanations given at the time were
sucn as TO satisfy you? Same objection as TO the
previous question: A. They seemed to me to be
entirely satisfactory. L = CfRNNT