The New York herald., 1876-08-22
A POLITICAL FIASCO.
Why Tammany aud Anti -Tammany
Gould Not Agree.
A QUESTION OF SPOILS.
What Was Said and Done at
Both Meetings.
A QUESTION OF SPOIL
IS A UNION POSSIBLE?

As was expected the effort OF Tammany Hall AMI the
anti mmany organization to unite, which was begun
on tho sly at Saratoga two or three weeks ago. and
which continued in this city through conference
committees Friday and Saturday last, has como To
naught 1t IS the old story the mountain and the
mouse over again. The Tammanytes set from tho
start with determination not to ccdc third Of
representation the delegation Saratoga and not
one-third OF the members from this city on tho
State Central Committee The antI-Tammanyiics were
from the beginning as fully determined not TO
join hands with their old enemy unless they
given half representation on both During
all the conferences held by tho sub committees no
men made, either side, Of The county Offices
but body concerned seemed to take IL for granted
that whatever representation could be decided upon.
far the Saratoga delegation and the state committee
were concerned should hold good as to Assemblymen
and county officers soon TO be nominated
THE REAL DIFFICULTY
in the of a union any terms, the ant. Tammnnv
mon say, was that Tammany has already decided upon
her county ticket, and that under the circumstances
she knew right well that II anti Tammany allowed
what the latter called fair representation-one
half-the Tammanv slate would have DO
remodelled in order to make places Tor some OF the
anti-rammanyites On the other hand the "ammany
men contend that II Tammany were to grant anti
Tammany half representation as to everything or
anything, she would have to do only the ground
that the anrrammanyiles held the balance OF
power; in other words, that even II the latter did
poll but third OF the Tammany vote, she polled
enough to defeat Tammany whom the third
bined with the republican vote. II the Tammany
people ccded hall for this they say they
other why they could be expecte cedc
it at all-they claim they would be throwing
wide open the doors for future trouble with
other anti-Tammany organizations that would
| ,utv Int Sucl
ton, they add, might be able poll but 5000 votes
and yet be a balance Of power, and have just good
reason as the present anti-rammany for demanding
hall representation on all tickets, because It
A BALANCE OF POWER.
Though the result OF yesterdays proceedings would
seem indicate that further parey between the TWO
organizations out OF the question, II is state
liable authority that Mr. Kelly after the adjournment
OF the Committee Organization, said that Tammany
he had doubt would be "liberal" the Saratoga
Convention she had been her conferences this
! c,ty and that, If anti rammany would be willing
to compromise there the ntTanmany party would
be allowed one-third OF he delegates IRON this city
and onethrd OF the members from this city Of tho
| State Committee. Just how this offer could be made
there by Tammany much less accepted by anti-Tam-
many, is mystery IN view OF the fact that dele
cations sent from this city; the one by Tammany
Hall and the other by anti Tammany The whole qucs
ton as to which delegation is entitled to admttance
| will be in the hands of The Convention. Tammanys
power of bargain making with local democratic oppo-
nents may be en rege in this city before
I q
higher power has all say about not only antiTam
many's standng but the standug OF Tammany herself
THE rAMM.xY CONFERENCES.
The Tammany Committee OF Conference OF twenty
four met at the wigwam at four O'Clock Z. NJ and after
receiving the reports OF the subcommittee appointed
to coE.er with the anti iammany subcommittee made
out report OF the conferences held and subm tted
to the Committee on Organization, which met for the
purpose OF hearing the report read IL was as foI-
lows
THE REPORT OF THE wIGwAx CHIEFS
The com nittee of twenty appointed by the Tam
many Hall Committee on Organization in pursuance OF
the following preamble and resolutions here resolutions
already published givenl respectfully beg leave
report:-Ihe committee met Immediately after the ad
journment oil the Committee Organization and pro-
ceeded organize 10y the election OF Hon. John Kelly
| as chairman and Messrs 4. J. Morrisson and II. d.
Purroy secretaries. The chairman having stated
the object the meeting to be to confer with the anti
Tammany organization with view to securing
harmonious acton in c the election Of del
of thrcc, consisting Of Messrs Campbell, Koberts
aud Cooper was on motion, appointed by the Char 10
notify the representatives OF the antTammany organ
lzaton Of the session OF the Tammany Hall Committee
on Conference. After some delay the committee
appointed appeared and reported that they had waited
upon the anti-Tammany Conference Committee and
had learned that committee hal been appointed to
arrange time and place for conference ana that
such c.nmittec then In attendance On invitation
the anti iamany committee appeared and stated that
their Committee on Conferences had chosen a sub
committee oil SIX confer with "a sim Jar committee
from rammany Hall. The Char was therefore author
lzcd to appoint subcommittee OF five, wbo together
with himself should confer with the anti ti-Tammany
sab-committee. The committee was then constituted
John Kelly William X Roberts, r. j. Morrison, Peter
3. Oucy, Henry g. Purroy, Henry A. Gumbleton.
Immediately proceeded to the Monument House. where
they met the anti- lammany sub COMMITTEE consist
ing OF Emanuel B. Hart, Charles w. Brooke, John
Morrisscy, William A. Mitchell, James OBricn.
On motion OF Emanuel Is. Hart, Mr. John Kelly
was elected chairnau and on motion oil Peter T. Olncy
Charles W. Brooke was chosen secretary. general
discussion ensued the basis OF representation
be recommended to the democratic electors the
eral Assembly districts On behalf Of the Tammany
members Of the conference a proposal was made 70
n Il
To the ant-Tammany party, which representation
would be based upon the by said party the
last election. Mr. John Morrisscy. behalf OF the
anti-TamDany organization. claimed that the repre-
sentation should be equally divided between tho two
parties, and substantially declined TO entertain any
otner proposition. After further discussion with
definite result committee OF two from each organiza
ton appointed ana instructed to meet satur-
day, the 18Th inst. at seven T. The committee
appointed consisted of John Kelly and William r.
ROBERTS, representing Tamnany Hall. and OF Emanuel
B Hart and Charles W. Brooke, rcprcscnt-
log tnc anti-rammsny organlzition Upon the
enco The an<lTammany Executive Committee
IN Irving Hall and adopted resolutions instrucng
their representatives not 10 accept less than equal
representation basis OF union Ior the Stale Conven
tion. The Subcommittee OF four met at the hour APP
pointed Ia the Monument House, when tie ant-lan-
many members stated that they had no INSTRUCTIONS to
modify thcr former rroposon The TAmmauy Hau
representation renewed lner hrs proposal to recon-
nsnd 20 the eecior. OF the several Assembly districts
a the basis OF onc-third OF the delegates 10
represent the ti:rammany organization and two
tbrds OF the fammahy Hall party As tho
aati.Tsmmaby representation had no discre
ton iu the maner. the conference closed
by mutual consent Your committee regret that the
overcres behalf OF rammany Hall, which were
made va good aitn lar and equitable basis, and
with an desire to bring aoout harmony ana
union the conflicting elements OF the party IN this
city not been rcccyed IA he liberal spirit IN
which they made. Your commutce In coucu-
SION recommend that the democratic electors IN the
several DISTRICTS proceed IN the usual way aud IN
c,rdhnce WITH the resolution adopted by the Rochester
Convention OF ls5l--iHerc the resolution T. rcoited,
which provides that delegates shall he chosen by
f-mnly districts regardless OF any central organiza.
lonlto clert deicEac to the Stale Convention to Se
held IN sarsioxs August 30, lss6
The report was SigDed ny all the committee. the
name OF Ar. John Kelly heading the list
Alter lew remarks Dy Mr.. Pufdy commenting the
report iis adoption put 20 vote. and IT receiyed
unanimous
the Char