New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1876-06-08

would have got out pretty soon.
Mr.. Knott-What do you say, Siri
Mr.. Blaine-l do not think you would have kept back
testimony that would have hurt me-that is what have
said, Sir.
Mr. Knott-Do you mean to say that would have done
you such injustice as that
Mr. Hunton-Iet it be understood, gentlemen, that
there must not be any interruptions.
Mr.. Baine-I shall not interrupt the gentleman further.
| know that the CheesbrOugh dispatch Let me
make that remark.
Mr.. HurtonNo. Sir; the floor has not been conceded.
Mr.. KnottSO far as the Cheesbrough dispatch is
cerned know nothing ab0ct 1T have not read 1t all;
have say this, that have had a variety Of other
things to think about and to attend TO, and 1 know
nothing about It so far as this dispatch Is concerned,
however 1t my object to verify It, If possible but in
any event to present ii to the Committee to do with
they proper and to take any action that they
fl that my intention oven had not the taken
place which did take place Monday, that dispatch
would have been presented to this Committee perhaps
the next day.
Mr.. Daine-Or some time along
Mr.. Knott-Before tho report would come in, and in
time to subserve your purpose; want to add here
Undge IIunton will bear ont in it, that when the
Tarbox resolution introduced no and agreed, that
in justice to Mr. Blaine, that thing ought TO be inves
gated possible, and that he should be
atcd II he innocent understand 1t to be his de-
sire and the desire OF his friends
Mr.. Baine-lInterPosngl Yes, but in case this dis
patch genuine
Mr.. Hunton-rhe rule must be observed that Interrupt
tons must not take place.
Mr. Knott-Afcr the order Of tho Committee had been
made that should telegraph to Mr. Caldwell several
times talked with Mr. Hanton, and asked him If he had
found ont where hr. Caldwell I will say further
that considered 1t due to Mr. Blaine that Mr. Cadwolls
testimony should be taken if possible and that II no re-
fused TO at the request Of the Committee, Mr..
Rlain not be for IL As q
that supprcssng that telegraphc dispatch or that
had any intention OF keeping il from the Committee,
denounce here, as have denounced elsewhere, all in
situations to that effect as absolutely false.
Mr.. Blainewas 1t not suppressng 1t from the public
for the time bengi
Mr.. Knott-what right had the public to it,
Mr. Blane-The right the public had to all OF the
incupating testimony against me. that went ont.
Mr.. Knott-It was not my fault 1t went out.
Mr. BlanoBut 1t your fault that the dispatch did
not go out.
Mr. Knot-My colleagues will all bear witness that
in every investigation which has taken place before
committee in which have been engaged, have been
particularly careful to prevent thing from getting
out that would nculpate anybody before report was
made Ihayc been blamed by newspaper reporters for
being reticent for the simple reason that did not
want any man to be blamed through pdre statements
made in q committee room.
WHEREABOUTS OF CALDWELL.
Mr. Blaine-You stated tnat you wanted to hold that
d,patch for the purpose OF verifying it's authenticity
You ght there might be something indirect or
bogus or put up about it, What steps did you take ~
verify its authenticity
Mr. Knott-I wanted to find out Mr.. Caldwelps ad-
dress.
Mr. Blaine-You had this dispatch in your hands from
Thursday morning. the LIST OF June and never brought 1t
TO the notice OF public until Intercepted you on the
floor OF the House Monday, June 3. In those inter
venng Ave days what steps did you take TO acquire in
formation whether that authentic dispatch
Mr. Knott took the only steps that thought ought
TO take to find out where Caldwell was and to telegraph
to him.
Mr. Blaine-You had information that he was building
railroad in Italy Turin, and Turin is only 4s hours
from London. During the OF Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday while you had this dispatch, dill you not
state newspaper reporters that you had
not heard from Josiah CALDWELL
Mr. Knott-i Will state about that. was met in the
rotunda by some gentleman whom do not know aud
who asked me IL had heard from Caldwell Probably
you Alr. Blane) know who that gentleman is; do not,
and would not know him now II | saw him Nv reply TO
him was, have not yet found out where Caldwell IS
Mr. Blaine-You got that dispatch on Thursday morn
Ing and that day there regular meeting OF the
Judiciary Committee.
Mr.. KnOtt-No, Sir that was tho day tha' hulngan
was examined here.
Mr. Biaine-You were here Friday morning "a hours
after you got that dispatch
Mr. KnOtt-Yes Sir.
Mr. Baine-And you had called meeting OF The JUDI
cary Committee on Saturday
lir. KnOtt-Yes, SIR
KNOTS LACK OF SINCERITY
Mr. Blaine-And II does not seem TO have occurred 70
you at either OF those meetings TO say anything about
that dispatch.
Mr. Knott will explain that IN the first meeting wo
we're engaged general business IN the second meeting
we were engaged the time the Committee convened
Ill he
to us in reference the letters that you had obtained
from Mulligan
Mr. Blaine-when II fresh you forgot II, but you
think that after it got old would have recoleced H.
Do understand you correctly IN that merely want TO
wind up by having world know that the day that
this dispatch came Mr. Knott, Mr.. Lord Mr.. jerks,
Mr.. McMahon and Mr.. Hunton of the House OF Repre-
sentatycs AL knew OF III Mr. Lawrence OF this subCom-
mttee, l believe. knew nothing OF it.
Mr. Lawrence-I heard nothing Of It,
Mr. Ashe Ito Mr. Blalne)-I informed YOU this morning
that had heard nothing OF 1t before heard 1t In the
House.
Mr. Blane-I have not mentioned your name as one
who had heard 1t.
Mr. Blane-Can you tell what process or steps you
are waiting OH to publish tho dispatch give 1t to the
House
Mr. Knott am going 10 give the dispatch to tho
House through the regular channel that Is through the
Judiciary Committee.
Mr. BlaneCan you give any information to the public
az to when you expect to produce that Dispatch
Mr. Rnott-I do not choose do choose TO trans
act business In my own So far ~ am concerned,
the public has had the substance OF that dspa oh from
my own lips. stated 1t on Monday.
Mr. Blaine-YOu said then that Mr.. Caldwell. In that
Dispatch stated that he would send AFFIDAVIT, II no
cessaryi
Mr.. Knott-Yes, Sir.
Mr. Blaine-That looked good deal like a man who
ready TO give testimony.
Mr. KnOtt-It looked TO Inc good deal in this way.