The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-04-13

ary evidence NY papers are not here, but viii get
them. want TO say that never keep dates. but IN
this case Il Is OF record and be proved
never saw Hayes in New York my recollection ony
met him once and hardly know him, and do not know
would be able to recognize him did not come
10 Washington 10 back up Hayess tories 70 tell
truth and have object In keeping anything back
him is an intentional mistake The dinner referred
by Collector Simmons given by at my house In
Cambridge and and ! was not IN New y, York at =.
remember about Il, but when went to work and got
tho ana refreshed my recollection, as any detec-
tive would, found there could be doubt about the
dinner and my presence at H. The guests must have
stayed late after the dinner and IL utterly i'm
nrss srsio sha. leaves YES Boston IN the morn.
Ing ] could have reached New York az
hve o'clock in the . afternoon do no.
later than vc O'Clock and could not have been In
the morning as he says But TO tell the truth, do
not remember OF meeting him ut all
whitley then went to explain the difference be-
tween his statement OF years ago tho made
the other day. He said
My testimony In 1874 was a technical evasion, with
mems al reservation madc while l under actual
duress could not have testified to anything else.
was threatened that II came out would be made to
suffer tho sevcrcst penalties was obliged to testify
as did just a. you would be 70 save your meek rom
thought Was in Shepherds office ! got
idea from OF his connections. but not from
ground for evasion, sosnat when they asked
gard 10 the burglary could save myself by tehnicay
evading II.
whitley was asked in regard to Miles, the burglar,
now in prison in New Hampshire, and whose state
mcnt duplicating Babcock appeared in the HERALD
yesterday. Whitley saudi
know Miles. believe that his statement is mate
rally true or coarse do not reeoIlect his coming
no use IN hiding the facts Babcock has been playing
double game all along. My testimony be corrobo
rated In more than twenty different ways. want to
that the HERALD has been the best friend the Secret
Services had. hnd IL the only paper that has
recognized it. Il will mako great mistake II Il THINKS
about My record is good and can be sustained.
have dined and been intimate with the leading men,
beers OF the government here and they all know mo.
when worked for them they called me an honest
man. and was feasted and made much Of but now
that am telling all the truth they call
than 800 arrests while was New York, and the
HERALD repeatedly published lists OF them and ac-
tho chief leaders of the safe burglary enterprise
Bluford Wilson came in, and told Babcock that It
he might make damaging discoveries Babcock said
"You wh,tlcy) throw sand IN his eyes and viii
Sas h 10 ea think hat cam handle
In TACT said Whitley, they did take Bluford Will
son to Long Branch, II am not mistaken. won't
that they wned and dined him but will say that
when he came back from Long Branch he told me that
Babcock had good many friends strong friends. and
be in tho safe burglary conspiracy was
alleged. The truth 10 Babcock and his
friends at Long Branch pumped Bluford Wilson
clean out, and have no doubt il you 60 to him now
he will confirm this do not caro- particularly about
Babcock. don't want TO hurt him but shall tell the
truth and have your honors, and have done 80 be-
forc the committee.
Mr. Whitley was asked 1t the burglar Miles
pardoned SO that he could the safe burglary
transaction. Mr. Whitley said
Niles was pardoned year or eighteen months be-
fair square, straightfor transaction he was par
doned At my request; the lacts are theso:-ln
1860, or 1870 $40, 600 had been stolen from
ho
traced part Of It down to Miles; don't mean that no
stole the money but knew that ne had i IN mis- pos
in New York and got out an esoppel II was doubtful
whether could hold u; finally Miles, through his coun
sci, explained to that he did not steal the money,
received It from another party and willing 10
give up and also TO give the information that
III; recovered S. 500; Miles agreed the guilty
party justice and 10 got tho money then At my
suggestion the man was pardoned
In conclusion, whitley repeated that Babcock was
not only deeply and personally implicated In
the safe burglary. but he guilty Of the
other offences Of similar nature and in each case he
was the chief consprator Colonel Whitley said that
the facts concerning them would be brought out sad
corroboratcd by docaMe ntary evidence in due timc
showing that plot was sld to kdnap not only Dana,
but other well known gchtcmsr who wore notfricndly
10 General Babcocks management Of District afars
| MIKE HAYES IN DEFENCE OF HIMSELF AND
| HIS sTATEMENr-rHE BOSTON ALIDI Ex-
| planned.
Mike Hayes, who claims to have been employed by
whitley TO conduct tho safe burglary, found to-
night At small hotel in Pennsylvania avenue, aud
tcrvewcd the subject Of the great conspiracy BY
| mistake no has been COMPOUNDED with Niles,
| in the representations made TO Proctor
! Kuott's committee, aud Is very indignant
at the statement which appears In the papers,
! and states most positively that he never
convicted OF crime In his life and In any
Penitentiary. consequently not pardoDed out
The only difficulty Hayes mixed up with was
on account OF charge Of murder In 1872, during the
spring Of that year in New York city, from which he
was promptly acquitted by the jury, who left
their seats. Hayes further says that in the charge
Recorder ackeu stated that tho only doubt in his
/ mind was whether such crime committed
1 at all.
Tho great regret OF Hayes now Is that he ever had
any connection with whitley, he dong lucra-
business No. so Henry street. New York city,
| keeping respectable public house. He says that no
has ample corroboratve evidence to prove that what
he has heretofore stated In his testimony In re-
! gard to whitley and the important telegram Of
| April Z, 1874, Is true, and that in due course
| OF time at the proper moment, he will show
the integrity OF his position far he has made
declarations, no matter what construction may DO
placed upon them ne has mourning W stake OUT MS
reputation which he take Of but will show
that whitley view Of his perjury and faIsncatons,
justice is melted to him. will have great DIM
Guilty 10 keep out OF tho Pcntcntiary himself
| He reteratcs in very clear that
cveryth ing has done heretofore In this nvestga-
ton, coupled with his statements, have been
consistent He does not desire to 90 into the merits Of
the technically now, IL may interfere With the
successful conduct Of the investigation by the Grand
| Jury here and tho Congressional committee
He ayers that the action OF Whitley IL inspired by
the hope OF saving himself from going to the Penicn-
| tiary by making some else scapegoat
Further, he argues that tho point which
is made by Whitley that, account of