The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-05-23

THE MErHoDIsTs ON CAMP MEETINGS AND
BAPrIsTs on THE INTERMEDIATE STATE
The nearness Of tho camp meeting season gave the
Methodist preachers a good opportunity and excuse
yesterday for the discussion OF this phase Of modern
Methodism- Mr. Joel sammls n member OF tho
Executive Committee OF Sing Sing camp meeting,
being present, was invited to speak. He did so, with
SPECIAL reference to Sing Sing which he said had been
crippled by
ROUND LAKE, OCEAN GROVE, SRA CLIFF
and other places recreation that four years ago no
advised the sale Of the ground Sing Sing. II
put TO vote, and out Of fifteen members OF the
Executive Committee OF Sing Sing declared favor Of
continuing this meeting, and comfortable lodging
trustees had this year invited Rev. Dr. IVES of Auburn
to take charge OF the meeting, and they expected .
good spiritual time They hal liked the time OF meet
ing for July 20.
Rev. Mr. Lloyd asked Mr.. sammis question which
set the ball in rapid motion, and which touched .
thought that lay beneath the surface-nnmeiy, Is Dr.
Ives 10 be paid for his the camp meeting
The pertnency OF this inquiry viii be understood wnen
II is known that Dr. Ives charges for his services at
church declarations and other OCCASIONS and he would
not como from Auburn to
FOR DAYS
without tho assurance OF pay. Hence Mr. Sammts was
obliged TO confess that tho Doctor expects 10 have all
his expenses paid ana receive other cOmpensa-
ton besides the amount not beng determined as the
correspondence had not closed 1hereupon Mr.. Lloyd
gave notice 10 the Camp Meeting Committee. through
It's representative. that he should preach Sing
Sing unless he was paid for his also, ana he
hoped no other preacher in New York or Brooklyn would
do IT. Ho thought IL Invldous the presiding
elders preachers OF the New York ana East con-
ferences to Import minister ON another conference
70 preside over meeting which New York and
brooklyn ministers are expected to oiliciate. DR..
Roche summed up his remarks by saying that II the
meeting rs 70 DO purely spiritual there many
within the two conferences named who just al
spiritual as Dr. Ives. Il Dr. Ives comes for money
Tor himself u Is blightng; II Tor money Tor the camp
meeting, Il Is blasting. The spirituality o. the meet
ing IS gone. The discussion was continued by Revs
Dickinson, Goss. Bouton, u. NJ Adams, Mckles and
others, some OF whom deemed tho form which the dis
cusson had taken nperIincnt toward the Camp Meet
ing Committee who quite competent to judge
oil the conduct oil their own business without nsiruc
lions from the preachers meeting. Nevertheless,
resolution by Mr.. Lloyd asked the Sing sing commit
give II in charge OF the presiding elders OF the New
York Conference. TINS resolution adopted by
majority OF one in avotc OF seventeen. the great
Jorty OF preachers refusing to vote on the question.
TiIE BAPTIST MINISTRIES CONFERENCE
listened to and discussed essay 1.-The lntermedi-
ate State OF the Dead by the Rev. Mr. Barrett Tho
essayis elaborated the following ponts:-That IT is
bodess conditon; that IL Is condition OF conscious
ness that there Is no probation IN the Intermediate
state that the spirit OF every man goes
at once to his own place and romans
there until the resurrection--tho righteous
10 the abode Of the blessed the wicked to that OF
tho lost the former TO be consciously happy and tho
latter consciously miserable. In the intermediate
state all spirits are placed beyond tho possibility ofre
pentance or change The righteous will be eteruay
with Cod the wicked with tho devil and his angels
Just where that intermediate state Is the essayst could
not say; IL Is not revealed and mystery.
The Conference also adopted tho following resolutions
on the Sabbath, which tho Secretary Of the meeting
was directed to forward TO the Centennial Commission
in Philadelphia
Resolved That this baptist Ministers Conference of New
York and vicinity has learned with great satisfaction the
recent decision the Centennial Exhibition
in respect 70 The sabbath By closing the buildings and
grounds on that day of and worship
Resolved That In doing the Commissioners will DO
sustained by tho large majority Of the intelligent and law
abiding citizens of this country aud will be acting
with the spirit and customs Of ANCESTORS who
and she fear of God.
Resolved That tho institution Of the Sabbath being
Of the main buwarks national strength and social
well being H lifting tina. In ofjubse should
be treated with distinguished honor In the Of all tho
nations.
Resolved That respectfully urge the Commissioners
maintain their noble stand this question unm0ved by
the clatnors by which that action may DO assaed.