The New York herald., 1876-10-16
MUTUAL DENOMINATIONS.
James 0'Brien on Morrissey, Kelly
and Their Proposals.
How Their Followers Regard
His Recent Conduct.
T H E SIT UATI O N .

River, excited yesterday over the evident rup-
ture Of negotiations between Tammany and antTam-
many. They congregated at the Fifth Avenue HOTEL
The Monument House, Union Square Hotel and other
central headquarters where tho Morrsssy and oBren
alteration at Saturdays ant-Tammany Convention
was the main topic OF warm discussion. The dramatic
spectacle at Utica last April, where Morrissey and
Kelly engaged in bitter personal alteration
upon the floor OF the Convention, was again
Exhibited at the anti-1 1ammany gathering
the political wheel makes some peculiar
volutiona At Utica 1.-THE two Johns' bitter per-
onal enemies. According to rumor and statements
made yesterday to the HERALD representative, IL
rould now appear that these two gadators have
mutual understanding over tho November spoils
norrissey, the other hand, claims 10 be actuatod
lons by tho interests of the party; he has selfish
motives whatever 1t is alleged that he cannot sleep
1t nights thinking OF the troubles Of his bosom friend
'Uncle sammy" Hayes, Walsh and other members
OF the Morrssey circle forgotten in this supreme
moment Of national Importance.
Ex-smERIYr o'BRIEN SITUATION.
The victory Of Saturday afternoon belongs to
O'Brien, AZ far as anti-Tammany is concerned He
routed Morr'ssey's phalanx, "horse, foot and art-
lsry." The latter proposed to swallow Tammany's
proposition Mayor Schcll John Kelly and the whole
Fourteenth street tribe O'Bren fought against the
Saratoga hero call of Assembly districts showed
seventeen tho OBrien side and Ave for Morrssey.
The pandemon,um was ended, and the anti-Tammany
County Convention dispersed, to reassembe at the
call Of the Chair.
The exSheriR and friends felt elated. Yesterday
afternoon this gentleman found at the Monument
House, when the following took place
tween him and the HERALD representatives.
IT'S there an end to the union botweon Tammany and
lnttTammany in your opnionf"
81 hope not 1t is my earnest wish that q union
should take place an honorable basis"
"what do you think that basis ought TO be2n
"lf we concede tho Mayor TO Tammany Hall wo
should certainly recelvo in return the sheriff or Sur.
rogae in addition to other Offices already
by that organization"
ION what do you particularly base your objections
to Tammany's terms'"
at would be an actual surrender OF the whole mu-
nicpal government to Tammany Hall and John Kelly
The people Of this city sick at heart OF the ono
power Ny principal object is to break up this
system. Until il is enectuay abolished there will bo
no harmony between the democratic forces in this
CITY,"
'How would the proposed terms of Tammany, II
accepted throw the whole local government again
into the hands OF this new corporationrn
sTho coming Mayor has The appointment OF eleven
commissioners during his term OF ofRce. Then OF
scal stun with the Mayor, they will confirm all his
nominations, which, In accordance with the say can
didate" policy, will be dictated by John Kelly The
Sheriff and Surrogate the next most i'm portant
Offices in ths county. The patronage and emolumens
Of both offices are immense. OF course the
Surrogates Office il the moro responsible
Of tho two. II ought not to bo put
under the control OF political hack think tho
HERALD is clearly right in its position that question
The Sheriff Is the most powerful legal functonary In
the county and exercises . great influence in his
party. His patronage is also very extensive, and
might be Of great service to any organization 1t will
thus be that Tammany wishes retain the three
best Offices In the csy, and asks bs content with
the County Clsrxshio wish s Of value only 20 the
possessor The Commisa,on, r ,f Public Works, who
is appontei by the Nayor is OF far greater importance
than the County CDcrkship. For my part would
prefer ndorse the whole Tammany tick ct, without
any consideration whaevcr than to receive tho small
mite they onervd US"
1t is rumored that tho reason you refused Tam
manys offer was because you could not receive the
nomination for Sheriff under the circumstances2"
ssThat not / should have been opposed
70 the acceptance OF the shrlovalty alone, the
Iamo as l was to the County Clerkship In
my opinion, In order to be fair both on
ses should be conceded TO the anti-Tammany
prsanizaticn- We did not want to bargain over the
Iudgsshpa, as men entirely removed from politics
should be placed upon the Bench 1 was always In
favor OF such idea. My past in this respect
will prove what say. Charles T. Daily, George C.
Barrett, William E. Curtis, Josiah L. Sutherland John
sedgwrcx. John X. Hackett Henry T. G,ldersIeeve,
Charles H. Sanford and George NJ vnn Hoesen are
gentlemen who received my warm and cordial support
was always opposed TO nominating inferior men 10
judicial positions"
I'm case OF failure as 10 union with Tammany Hall
what will be your next movement in the campaign"
IL am in favor Of nominating straight democ
ticket, composed OF the best that fnd in
the community. 1 do not propose, along with
thousands OF my fellow democrats to be dictated to by
The 'two Johns" who have evidently struck hands In
this hehLn
."Do you suppose Morrissey and Kelly have had q
1T my firm conviction that they have had un-
cerstanuing ali through this matter"
What was the supposed programmed"
'.wash some other candidate OF Morrissey's
would have been brought forward Tor the nomination
for County Clerk The Office s iuil OF Morrssey 8
adhercnts, and II is important for him in ways
than one TO retain the patronage"
"what is the element in ansi-T ammany which sus-
tains Morrisscy?"
"The people who removed from Tammany Hall
last year. They to get back for the sake or
spois Such men as Hayes, Morrissey's defeated
ddate Tor Register the friends OF ex-senator Ledw in
and cx-Alderman Power, and Morrissey's own dis
trct, the Eleventh. This party was all disciplined by
they camo into organization Now they propose
20 control the county democracy in the interests Of
Kelly"
.sDo you think then you can hold your own against
the attacks Of tue Kelly conspirators?'
'rhero is doubt the majority OF the organization
are with me IN thus fight they have discovered the
Key Morrsscy conspiracy TO sell them out and II has
aroused their Indignation"
Have You talked alone with Kelly ON tho subject Of
union ~
mo, sir. Tho only real conversation ever had
with Kelly was when that gentleman was summing Tor
shcrIn, some years ago. Hc then asked me Tor my
support and gave II TO him. do not believe In run
ning after political "bosses." | have always relied
upon the masses, who ever supported me when was
a candidate. apprecirtc their friendship and have
confidence IN them to-day.n
''Soms people seem TO think that outside combipa.
tions OF democrats mean injury the national ticket
headed by Samuel J. Tilden ~
"Ihat Is not SO, AS far ms wc are concerned we
shall do all In our power elect Ti.den and Robin
SON Tho Governor has faith in me and my friends
because We have been tried Tie attitude prcsc ed
by John Kelly and Tammany Hall at ST. LOUIS Sara.
toga should excite grayer suspicious that subject
thun can be raised against our organization, as we
have been the fast friends Of Governor Tden since his