The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-06-02
NEW YoRK HERALD FRIDAY. JUNE q ls7e-TRPLn SHEET

to suppress those le,,orsg a. That they would ruin
him forever hoscon plated suicide and appealed TO
me In every way he could and he began then to talk
politics and asked me about his nomination and about
opinion; he asked me ii liked my present position
aud told him no did not care about IT, ne asked me
how should like political office and told ham did
not care about one; he asked me II would not like
BY Mr. FRYg-Q. Was any one present at that time :
a. NO, SIR ! STATE that upon my own veracty; Mr..
Blaine Is here aud Is listening to what say consider
my word as good as that OF any that ever lived
told him there was no political oitcc that wanted
BY the CHAIkAAx-Q. You have come before the
committee aud related these facts upon your own
lion only A. Upon my own motion only.
. without consultstiony A. Without consultation
or admonition from any one and rather against the
other gentlemen, who advised me not 10 do II.
g. What other gentlemen A.; Mr. Atkins and Mt
an advised me not 10 do II.
Is there anything else in those fourteen letters OF
Mr. Blame TO Mr. Fisher which bears upon the subject
matter OF this inquiry witt the Little Rock and Fort
Smith bonds, which went afterward into the
hands OF the Union Pacific Railroad Companys A.
particular bonds went into the Union Pacific
Railroad Company; there are bonds that Mr. Blaine
lar bonds not don't know; Mr.. Blaine himself said
or understood from his letters that these bonds that
In there bonds that came from these parties
named; whether they were his own bonds that he got
this commission on ! do not know; there one
letter in the package where he told Mr.. Fisher how
h% he nad received $50 COO Of oonds from nina and
$4,000 from Caldwell on an outside matter, that is
$50 600 OF bonds Mr. Fishers account ias per cent
age that he to get upon those sales OF bonds 10
which testified yesterday and tho $40 900 o. bonds
which he got from Mr. Caldwell.
.. Two sums. making in The aggregate $4,000 Of
bondsy A. Yes
q Did he say in that letter that those bonds went
into tho hands OF the Union Pacific Railroad Company
through Thomas A. ScottY A. Not In that letter He
did mention Mr. Scott's name in anything but Mr..
Fisher wrote TO him, telling HIM that no tMr.
Fisher knew where these bonds went and
and Mr.. Blaine back that If Mr.. Fisher thought
no Mr. Biaine) benefited by the transaction he was
mistaken, and that he mud not had the money iorty
eight hours when he passed 1t TO these parties
Mr.. BLAiNE-What were the bonds that went to the
Maine parties, what denomination OF bonds, where
they land grant nrst mortgage bondss A. tscfcr-
ring To memorandum can tell you, sir, and pre-
you won't dispute II because II III IN your own
hnndw riting (producng memorandum book labelled
Warren Fisher, Jr, private, which no hands TO the
charman); there are all the parties names; II you
want them you can have the whole history now.
O. tBy the Chairmnn)-In whose handwriting is this
book A. James q. Biainea
The CnAIRxAN-Now proceed to answer the question.
WiTXKss-.hc 10000 Of bonds that were sold 10
these different parties here were first mortgage bonds
Mr. BLAIxE--ihey we're first mortgage and not land
grant bondss a. Yes; the next sale was on different
day from the other.
CnAiRsAx-was that TO the Name partcss A. Yes
and sold different basis; one man had s. 900 OF
land grant bonds and $l00 900 Of first mortgage bonds
that vas $S 900 Tor man another man had 50 600
OF land grant bonds and 81 500 OF first mortgage bonds
another had S. 900 Of land grant bonds and 50 $50 Of
and $lI. $50 OF first mortgage bonds.
= Wcrc all sales that you have referred TO made by
or through Mr. Baines A. Yes
O. And In addition TO the bonds you have just
spoken Of coming TO these purchasers what sort Of
bonds did Mr.. Blaine getty A. He was 10 get $4,000
OF land grant bonds and $32, 500 OF arst mortgage
bonds
BY Mr.. BLAME-You do not testify that actually
got theses A. No. sir say there arc about S36 600
that arc due you yet
BY the CHAIRNAN-That is, that he got all except
thirty-six b0ndsf A. Yes
BY Mr.. FRYK-Do you know whether they were sent
to HIM or 10 the Maine men! A. know that the
Maine mon paid their own subscriptions 10 me. and /
gave receipts Tor them.
O But you DO not know that Mr. Blaine got his
A. sent the other parties bonds to them by express
ana Mr. Blame got his
BY the CHAIRMAx-You sent by express the bonds to
personS A. No; did not deliver them to him in per-
son, bat Mr. Fisher did SO; Mr.. Blaine has acknowl-
edged that no got all those; gave him myself lot
@ He got all those $3.50 600 land bonds and $s2 500
Of irst mortgage bonds except $36 000that Is say
thrty-six bondsy a. Yes
SUBSCRIBERS TO LITTLE ROCK BONDS
The following shows the subscribers to the Fort
Smith and Little Rock Railroad Company. OF Arkansas,
as shown by the witness Muiligan. In each instance
the subscribers TO bonds received equal amount in
bonds of their cash subscription and Of land gran. and
A. and F. Coburn, OF skowhegan, Me-. to pay $50 600
and receive $l50000
Peter =. sanborn, of Augusta, Me-, to pay $4,000
Arson r NORTH, 70 pay $40 600 and receive $50 600
Il ph Johnston, 5. X. Haseltine, 9. b. Hascltine,
Hersey all Of Belfast, Me- paid $1,000 received
SIS 600, with the exception Of Johnston, who paid
$4,000 and received 10000 Lot NJ Morrill,, OF Au-
we'll OF Augusta and q. NJ. Bailey OF winthrop paid
So, 0OO and received 1000 each.
MR.. BLAIxK's STATEMENT.
At tho conclusion Of Muligans examination Mr.
Blame made the following statement under OATH
Mr. Blaine--This witness opened his statement this
Tai. fsaf-
by him Of certain letters which into my
possession. To begin where he did received through
q third party telegram Monday, stating that MI
Fisher and Mr. Auihgan were on their way wit
ncsscs, the latter uniriendy. just ut that time my
mind considerably hllec with tho story about the
Northern Pacific matter, which had come out through
the letter Of Mr. Aquila Adams, who formerly
nccted with Mr. Fisher IN business. and when ascer
tanned on what tram Mr.. Fisher coming sent
servant with note to his hotel saying would like 10
have HIM and Mullgan call al house their leisure
in relation to tho Northern Pacific matter
but Mr.. Mulaan was not willing to CALL I
called at the Riggs House. and found
Mus S sns 10 10, s Sas shook hands
known him twenty-five years and said, addressing
him as l mad been in the habit Of doing
James, they report that you are here enemy OF
miner"
He made some jocnlar or rather evasive answer and
then SAID that he didn't want TO come to my house,
any way about the matter before lie testified had a
little conversation directly afterward With Mr. Fisher
In which Mr. Fisher said 10 mo that Mr. Mullgan had
good many OF my private letters that he did not know
did not think that they bore upon the subject OF
vestgaton, but that they embraced large portion o
the business which, for number Of years, had been
going between Mr.. Fisher and myself Mr.. Fisher
has intimate acquaintance OF mine for more
than twenty years. He was Tor considerable period
associated with my wiie's brother ia business in
Boston, and Mr. Mulligan was the confidential clerk
Tor many years oil another brother OF my wife bust
ness SO that know the parties Intimately. Mr..
Fisher intimated that Mugan had these letters and,
without distinctly saying so, he gave understand
that he the least reluctant get them all out
whether they bore upon the matter
or did not converse with Aulligan al all until
yesterday, when discovered thought n very great
readiness his part 10 travel out OF the record and
tell great many things relating 10 my private bust
which did not belong AT all the subject Of In
veslgation, and seeing that l did not want
go INTO those matters until could have little con
vcrsaton with HIM on the subject thought Il was
highly improper and unjust that he should do So
causs IL broadcned tho field of examination and pre-
vented my having report or verdict upon the case
particularly hand SO the committee adjourned
at Judge Llwrcncc's request alter had spoken With
nm. After the adjournment called the three
gcnllemcn-Mr. Atkins, Mr. Fisher and Mr.. Mugan--
at the Riggs House. anu in the parlor Of Mr. Atkins