The New Orleans bulletin. [volume] (New Orleans [La.]) 1874-1876, 1876-01-11

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cut off the amendment.
Mr. Randall desire to have the previo
question seconded, then will allow the ha
hour which the rules give me for discussit
to the other side of the House.
Fir. Blaine-The gentleman proposes not
allow any amendment.
Mr.. Randall will listen to any amen
mept.
Mr.. Biaine-The gentleman knows vee
we'll that the previous question cuts OF a
amendment?
Mr.. Randall am q1ite aware Of the offe
of it; have for twelve years learned i
effects in adversely under your directions, an
that of your side of your eide OF the Hous
[Murmurs of applause on the Democrat
side.
The previous question was seconded-l5
to IS.
Mr.. Randall, of Pa.-As 1 have one hon
for debate, propose
Mr.. Garfield, Of Chic, interrupting-Unde
what rule? This bill is not report from
committee. and, therefore, there is no de
bate allowed, the previous question bein
seconded.
Mr. Blaine insisted on the same point, ant
said that the rule IS to allowing an hour 10
debate, after the previous question. applied
only to reports from committees. The pre-
vious question in this case cuts off abso
lutely every moment of debate.
Mr.. .ndall-Does that side of the House
object to debate? .-.....
Mr.. Blaine-It does not, nor does this side
of the House desire any unreasonable time
for debate, although, as Congre 80 has been in
session five weeks. and as the sessions OF the
House have averaged only about two days per
week. it might be considered that an hour
or two of debate would not be too much to
allow on bill of this kind.
Mr.. Randall (persistently)-I want to know
If any body on that side OF the House objects
to debate?
Mr.. Hale, OF Maine-No sir; but we want
debate and amendment both.
Mr.. Gar6eld-We want consideration of
the subject, which means debate and amend
ment
Mr.. RlndalI-I propose that We give an
hours consideration to it.
Mr. Garfield (sneeringly)-Aye. considera-
ton without amendment.
Mr. Blaine-I told the gentleman (Randall)
in good faith that it was absolutely impossi
BILE for him to pass his bill under that kind of
tactics. The vote on the previous question
has revealed the fact that considerably more
than one-third of the House objects to The
bill going through under gag.
Mr.. Randall do not propose to push it
through under gag. On the contrary, pro-
pose to put it through after Q debate II that
side of the House objects to debate it will be
itself responsible for there being no debate |
1t is for that side Of the House to say whether |
there shall be debate or not
Mr. Blaine-The gentleman from Penngyl. |
vania knows that Mr.. Benton left on record |
the saying that the very essence Of legislative
power is amendment and the gentleman from
Pennsylvania confesses the weakness of his
cause when he attempts to deprive the
minority Of the House of the parliamentary
right To offer amendments.
Mr.. Randall, (tauntingly)-I am glad tba.
you see light, for during many years you were
blind to such considerations. Laughter on
the Democratic side and in the galleries.
Mr.. Blaine, (defantly)- gentleman
will search the Globe for the last twelve years
In vain for a case where bill of this magni-
tude was attempted to be put through with
out discussion and amendment. Never, sir.
! defy him to give an instance.
Mr. Randall-Was not this very bill passed
last year under the previous question GU a re-
port from the Commit 90 on Rules, Of which
yOu were member?
Mr.. Blaine-And to which objected.
Mr.. Randall-Never, either in or out Of
did You object to it.
Mr.. Blaine-Being in the chair and unable
TO object myself, got several gentlemen to
object. Laughter ut the expense Of the late
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Carolina, Mr. Rainey, to object to it, but be- |
with delicacy which did honor to his po- I
,ition and his race, said that he would be U
if he did so, although he a
thought that the bill ought not to 90 through. =
Mr. Randall say that this bill is almost Z
IDENTICAL with the bill reported last session
rom the Committee on Rules without any OBJ 1
ectIOn on your part. G
Mr.. Blaine differ with the gentleman on p
hat point. I,did object to it, although the n
yentl, man does not observe parliam entary t
Jules when he refers to what took place in r
,Ommitteo.
Mr.. Randall repeat that precisely SINH )
ar bill came last session from the Commi a
IN Rules, and that neither as q member of Q
he commi tee, nor as a member of the House,
lor Ms presiding officer did you object to it. b
On the contrary, as far rs you were able you q
aciii,ated the passage of that bill
Mr. Garfield make the point of order Il
hat the rules require the gentleman to ad- "
ress the Clair, and not address the gentle b.
ian from Name as ''you."
Mr.. Randall (contemptuously)- The gen. pl
eman from Ohio is getting worry fastidious. nj
Laughter on the Democratic side and in the ca
alleries be
M. Banks, of Massachusetts,, demanded la
le yeas and nays on ordering the main ques
on. and the yeas and nays were ordered. fr'
Mr. Blaine-I desire to be distinctly under Sc
God, that the effect Of ordering the main fa'
lestion is to cut of ali debate whatever. is
Mr.. Randall-And desire to have it equal ~, ~
understood that 1t is not the purpose Of ~
Is side Of the House to prevent debate, and IN
at il debate is cut fl 1t will be the fault Of GIG
9 other side Of the House. This side will ne
cord to the other side Of the House all the Ma
ne it wants for discussion.
Mr.. Blanchard Of Iilinois-T asL urdar del
9 rules whether the minority can h.vs that pal
ivilege? OH
Mr. Randall-It can by unanimous consent IS
,eers on the Republican side OF the House), Al,
d the objection, if comes at all, must come oe'
I'm that side. tor
The m ain question was orderdered. Yeas pea
5; nays 80. strict party vote. -
Mr.. Randall now ask unanimous con- oia
At for an hours debate prior to the vote on an
8 final passage. he
Mr.. Garfield join with the gentleman, rem
ohH IN 4 fha