The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1876-06-10


The vote was then announced a. yeas III, nays %
The following Is the negative vote
Messrs. Anderson. Baker Of New YORK. Bell, Campbell
. Gr''s. paf.ns HsyE1nS P
,s9 Reilly John, Of Psnnsylvans Ssxsrs smith Of
Georgia. Walsh. whisshouss and wils-aa
Messrs BLAlSg and PACE-No quorum voting
The SPEAKxR- "A quorum has not voted.
Mr.. PAGE-l move that the House do now adjourn
Mr.. SPRINGER OF Illinois, at the time as
Mr.. Page, aud was recognized by the Chair
Mr.. PAGE claimed that his motion must be put
The SrxAKKR pro ens minated that the Char under
stood It's own business, and added that two motions
were in order-one for call OF the House and to
adjourn, and non constat that the gentleman IRON
Mr.. PAGE-l have Just made
Mr.. SrRIscER-My point OF order 10 this
Mr.. BLAiSE-No points Of order
Tho SPEAKER pro fem.-The gcntemrn ID not Speaker
OF the House now. Applause and laughter on the
democratic side
Mr. BLAlxk-But am member
Mr.. SrRISGKR-The parliamentary inquiry which
was trying 10 put, u the gentleman from Maine would
though not voting are not IN their seats and whether
the Char will not take cognizancslof thai facts
The SPEAKER pro tenA-The parliamentary inquiry Is
very pertinent and proper ono The Char decides
that, deciding the presence Of quorum cannot
outside Of the record Just handed In BY the Clerk
Mr.. BLArNK-Now notion 10 adjourn Is In order.
NJ. PAGE-I renew my motion to adjourn
Mr.. SrRINGKR-I move a call OF the House.
Mr.. BLAME rise TO point OF order.
The SrEAKEx pro tem.-The gentleman will state his
Mr. BLAixx-I desire 10 have read Is explaining the
point OF order extract from the rules.
The CLERK road from The manual AZ follows-"It is
not in order private bill day. 70 call up and consider
motion TO reconsider vote public BILL
II objected 10, except after postponcment by . ma
| jorlty vote. OF the private business
Mr.. BLAINE (rcsuming)-The Chair overruled that
| point when made by tue gentleman from Iowa (Mr
kassonl asked the Chair TO give It's and he
Chair declined 70 40 30 and very prudensIy; because
in order during private bill day. This public mat
ter !. Is no. mere properly = = here ~ defiance Of
could give and which right In tho teeth of
the letter OF the rule. That is my point loud APP
| plapse the republican side and tho galleries.
Mr. SPRISGKR-Thc rule words the "a public
biL' This is public bill II is resolution OF
private IN the nteresto the nomination Of the
gentleman for Presidenil OF the United Statcs zap
pause hsscs laughter, great uproar and excitsment)
The srEAksn pro 1.-THE gentleman from .. Mainc
| but the, opinion OF the Chair, the rule 10
not applicable at the present stage Of the business
pants OF the chair make rulings without giving
tor them, otherwise the whole business OF the House
/ might be taken up IN that way.
Mr.. BLAME never have seen-
The pro teDArhc Chair has 10 call the gen.
Tor 1t, because apparent that he is Of order
repeatedly iuterrupting the Chair. Applause the
democratic sdc The gentleman knows the rules very
we'll that he must not interrupt The Chair when making
| a decision.
Mr. BROWN, (dem.) Of Ky.-lI wish simply 70 know II
this is the American Congressf
Mr. BLAIxE-That is what want 70 know, too
| Mr. BRowN-Or whether the pupils of the
schoolmaster from Name lLaugnteE)
/ Mr. BLAINE without needing the Speakers gavell-
II IS the most surprising American Congress that
assembled. daughter and applaassl
| A member IRON the democratic sde-To that all
agree. daughter, applause and general uproar, with
the Speaker vany cndeavorng to enforce order, and
the the gallery paving as little attention
members the door TO the efforts OF the Char IN that
| dircction.)
| TO otter the following resolution
Resolved That ali evidence taken by tho Judiciary
the authority Of the resolutions Of Messrs Lut
b tns part The
may be called who have heard said Caldwell
the same con,rsdcto sstemen. - that contained in
printed other evidence taken BIZ said committed
The SPEAKER pro ten-Is there any objections
Mr. HoAR, (rep) OF Mass.-l object
AS the confusion and excitement on the floor showed
no sign the pro directed the
Doorkeeper exclude from the floor all persons not
entitled to tho privilege and to preserve order IN the
galleries. announcing 1t as his determination break
up this system Of claqueism IN tho House.
Mr. GARFIELD lrep.l OF Ohio suggested the amend
ment proposed should be allowed
Mr. BLACKBURN, tdem Of Ky.-wiil the gentleman
accept amendment the resolution offered by
gentleman from Illinois tMr. Morrison)s
| Mr. GARPiELD-I have no authority to accept any
amendment except the amendment suggested TO the
gentleman from Virginia yesterday and to which ne
he bad sor! OF objection. Everybody, think,
viii feel that it is but harness allow that
amendment 10 be offered. Tho gentleman from Viz
GINA stated yesterday that he had no sort OF objection
TO the publishing Of The despatch for wha, y was
Wednesday. That was all that was asked for bis
side and il 1t were accepted there need be no further
delay in the matter. He asked the gentleman from
! Virginia TO allow that amendment to be voted on.
| Mr. HUTTON replied that when that proceeding took
place the House he had stated 10 the House las he
now stated he hao OF objection publish
ing that telegram for what It is WORTH but he did
II seemed him that the resolution suggested by the
gentleman from Illinois was aproper one and that 1t
| met the whole
Mr. GAgrIELD-rhe gentleman has stated, and
body contradctcd his view that the telegram pro-
posed 70 be published Is not evidence That
be published as evidence It was asked
to DO published in connection with the pro-
t,oa Of the gentleman from illinois mr. Morson
that it shall not only be published, rs suggested, but
| that tncrc may be proceeding OF the committee to
tako hearsay testimony which, as understand, tho
| committee has almost II not quite UNANIMOUSLY,
solved do This despatch not claimed to be EVIL
dence
| Mr. SPRrxGER-Then why Is II urged?
Mr. GARrELDlt Is part OF the res gestc Of tho pro-
ccedings OF the committee and is not evidence
| Mr. SPRSGER-lt must b. either evidence or some
thing else.
Mr. GARrsLD-You may call u what you please We
do cali evidence. and will simply say to tho
chairman OF the Committee on Ways and Means that,
to put IN rule now authorizing and directing the
committee TO receive hearsay evidence, which il does
| now receive, would be manesty unfair ana unjust,
and therefore that that be added
Mr. MoRRisoS-I understood the gentleman from
Maine to desire tho publication OF the despatch for
what It Is worth. Now, submit in all candor II Is
anything That Is the object Of my resolution. That
is all propose to do. You want 10 take the despatch
| for what IL IS worth. You may, however, think It Is
something
gentleman from Maine. To the extent that the de-
spatch the gentleman would have the benefit Of
IT, but If is should the benefit OF
IT, Then why not allow the committee to take evidence
show is not true; that Is all the object OF my
| luton
Mr. GARvrELp-I agree perfectly with what the
| gentleman suys-that IT Is perfectly and absolutely
| rieht to allow the committee TO prove that the
despatch Is worth nothing. II Is not proposed 10 be
| offered evidence II the committee show II 10
be spurious ought 10 show III II the committee
show false ought shown But all that ask
is that this House shall make rule that would be
violation OF all the known rules OF evidence--viz:
that by secondary and hcarsay evidence, the commit
despatch. Let the committee prove all II can, but
| prove II by the known rules OF evidence
Mr. RAxDALL-Thc known rules Of evidence would
| exclude the paper altogether.
| Mr. SrRixGER-Thc proposition Is this, that Cad-
well may give evidence without being under OATH and
| that he cannot DO contradcted By evidence under
| oath.
Mr. GARrIELp-Nobody has claimed that this despatch
| Is evidence.
MI MCMAHON. ldcm OF Ohio-Yes. II Is claimed a.