The Cairo bulletin. [volume] (Cairo, Ill.) 1872-1878, 1876-08-01

between prominent treasury official,
naming myself, and Carl Schurz. This
state because the reporter, Mr.. Meeker,
told me 80 the same evening, as did also
Mr.. Nordhon, and because brought the
attention OF the president himself to IL,
aud on the End day OF January the atten-
ton of Col. Fred d. Grant. now come
to the celebrated circular letter. On the
9th of January, 1876, received this
note:
EXECUTIVE MANSION, WASHINGTON,
Jan. ", 1876. 1915 p. m.-MY DEAR MIR.
SOLICITOR The president says to drop
you note. and ask you to come over
and see him. Very truly yours,
LEVI p. LUCKY.
Hon. Bluiord Wilson, Solicitor of the
Treasury.
Before going further will state that
had twice called upon the president of
the United States before could get an
interview with him on the question OF
the charge made against me by Col.
Fred Grant, and for that reason after
that did,pot call at the white house
WHEN 1 WAS SEM tOk.
I went oyef to see the president prompt.
IL and learned that he was dissatisfied
with the course of the secretary and my
self with reference to the conduct OF the
prosecutions at Milwaukee and Chicago
and st. Louis. He objected specifically
and earnestly to our permitting persons
who pleaded guilty to be used as wit
nessas to convict othcrs-in other words.
to the testimony of accomplices. lie
called my attention to the case OF Gauger
Roddis, of Milwaukee. against whom a
aoiie proseq,ti had been entered. and said
to me that there was quite to much OF
that thing going ON, and.read from the re-
port to show that the nolte proseqi had
been entered for the purpose of using
Roddis as state evidence. He next said
to me. II understand Everst has re-
turned; | suppose he has been promised
immunity, too?'' | said TO him. "Mr.
President, SO far as know, up to this
date. Roddis is the only instance in which
a nolie p'osequi has been entered for the
purpose Of accepting the party as states
evidence. In answer to your question
as to whether Everst is not to be prose-
cuted. should say that | have specific
Information on that point from the dis
trict attorney. and he tells me no promise
whatever has been made to him, and that
none will be-" He asked me what Ever.
est would testify TO. told him that it
was said that Everest would testify
that he saw Joyce mail two letters con-
tanning $500,
EACH ONE ADDRESSED TO BABCoCk.
lie asked Inc when Everest returned.
| told him that Inc had returned about the
18th of January, 1876. He asked me if |
knew where he was. told him that
believed he was then with his uncle
somewhere in western Pennsylvania.
He said to me, major, when said Let
no guilty man escape meant it, and
not that nine men should escape and one
be convicted" said to him, pardon
me, Mr. President, we are not in this bat
tie counting heads. We are trying to
break up the unlawful
CoNsPIRACIEs AND COMBINATIONS
which We all know exist and if possible
to reach those who have inspired and
organized them, and | know OF no other
way of doing this and obtaining proof of
conspiracy than by going inside of the
ranks of the conspirators, and give it to
you as my judgment that the policy
which has been adopted by the local
counsel upon their independent judg-
ment and not under the instructions of
either the secretary or myself will result
in accomplishing this purpose, and that
none other will. Secretary Chandler sat
just back al the further end Of the cabi-
net-room and said TO the president,
"Mr. President. notice the presence of
member OF the cabinet. If you give
me time 10 go into this matter | think [
could satisfy you that you are laboring
under misapprehensIon." "Oh," said
he, lit is not worth while, l simply
wanted to call your attention to the fact
that In my judgment there is too much
Of this going on said to him, ''that
being so, have nothing 10 do, Mr..
President, but 10 bid you good morn
ing, and / did 50. went out deeply
impressed with what the president had
said to me. | went 10 the secretary of
the treasury and told him what had taken
place. l said to the secretary that in my
opinion it was Of vital importance that he
should see the president on that day that
had reason to believe and did belle We
that
A. p. TUITION,
then lately returned from Chicago ION
the Goth Of January, believe, had en-
deayored to create the impression in the
mind of the president that we were CIV
ing away everything in the city of Chi
cago for the purpose of CONFLICTING Rehm
and Hesing and Ward, and while the
question as to the propriety Of the policy
was not important, it was
important that he should see the
president Immediately, take with him his
letters to Tuition, let me take my letters
TO Tuition and his kilograms to Webster,
and explain to the president the whole
case. He reluctantly consented, we
went and the secretary, with great par
ticularity, stated to the president, fully
and fairly reading from the official docu-
mehts' the situation ofafiairs at Chicago.