, 1876-05-12
WHISKY.
Progress Of the Trial Of Jonas
and Others at milwaukee.
The Defendants Never Conspreu'
and Abandoned the. Con-
spiracy, Anyway.
1mportant Evidence Against hcKee Sur
rendered to HI. Dyer.
MILWAUKEE.

MILWAUKEE, May ll--ln LIZ ooAaa ~@19es '
examination of Sam Rindskopf was resnneo'
but nothing Of further interest was etc'seo.
Cross-ezanained dy lfr: iNu1phsy: he was mol
certain that Goldberg was present at the dcpot
meeting at Chicago. He explained the mean
ing Of certain symbolicM words IN the cor cor
rcspoudcncc. For the sum Of S10ooo,
first. asked. and afterwards $4,000, defend
ants offered to clear all the parties to the
negotiations from the civil and criminal suits
brought against them, and it was under
stood the method Of their doing this was
that the Chicago parties were to use all the
means at their command to procure papers in
the suits, SO as to insure successful legal de-
fcpse. He heard from Goldberg the latter was
to have post-tradership, and Goldberg asked
witness to hclp him to get stock and credit to
go into the business, hut this had no connection
With whisky matters. Goldberg tried hard to
interest witness in post-trading, saying there
WAS lots of money il it. He never thought the
scheme contemplated
STEALING OUTRIGHT.
II he had not thought Hcdrick was party to
tho lob. he would have had nothing to do
with it. ,.-o..,,,.
The hearing here developed into q lengthy
conversational discussion between the counsel,
which the Court stopped by saying counsel on
both sides appeared to be growing into the
habit Of embodying the substance OF an answer
in their questions, and he desired this practice
to stop. Tho remainder Of the examination o1
this witness was Of no interest.
ELIAS sHIPMAN,
of Chicago, was the next witness OVer an
hour Was spent in discussing IS to the umlla-
tions- Of this witness examination. Finally nc
was allowed to proceed, the Court permitting
him to tell his narrative in his own style OF any
interviews at which the Milwaukee men and the
defendants were present Witness said he, Was
present at the first interview between all the par
Ties at the fremont House, in June last
THE TERRIBLE CONDITION OF TIE MILWAUKEE
wu15KEY MEN
was explained, and the object Of the meeting was
to devise means to alleviate their condition; ~.
Crosby suggested the employment of ~ Mr, frstty-
man, saying the fact Ct his being Hedrlcks brother
n-law would be Of great advantage, declaration
which witness prepared to believe Al the par
ties we're invited TO this meeting by Mr. Rinds-
kopf No sum mentioned as retaining fee
Mr. Jonas came to be at the meeting because
GOLDBERG ASKED HISI FOR AID AND COUNSEL
in the premises telling him their situation. Jonas
told witness the story and this induced witness to
spcals TO Crosby, who relative OF his. their
sam Rindekopf JONAS and Goldberg went ridingto
Lincoln Park and spent the evening together: gs,r
| mcnt Of Pretty1nan as la#yer, and Of
| CROSBY TO SEE HIN.
| Next. there was an interview at the depot, when
Mr. wirth Joined The original II ths early
and witness were present. It took place at the
fremont These parties went together to the depot
the hacE leaving Witness and Goldberg IN the hack
| for about five minutes. Rfndskopf and Crosby
talked with man whom he since understood was
Wirth and another gentleman (kiewertl, who were
| about to take tho train. They we're on the side
walk, too far awny foz; witness to hear the con-
they would have Crosby eome Up to ilwankcs
Rinlskopf then got In the hack aud all drove oil,
leaving Mirth and hiewcEt to take the train 1or
Milwaukee. Jonas was not present at this meet
Ing. At the hotcl before this, Crosby reported to
kindskopf that
| rRErrrMAS COULD De HAD,
| but large sum Of money would be necessary for
contingent fund, and q large retaining fee would
have 10 be paid before he would move. Crosby
spoke eaboratey as to the desirability Ct employ:
| to hold the money WIS, discussed, and Rindskopf
| selected Jonas, man OF integrity. ETC. Jonas
untation for honor and honesty Witness had frc-
parties; be knew OF the visit Of Goldberg and Crosby
street interview, and so far Goldberg and Jonas
| were concerned, the matter was abandoned from
Ilerc counsel for the Government objected to the
line of examination, and Mr.. Murphy said he pro-
| posed to show that Goldberg and Jonas
| ABANDONED ALL CONNECTION WITH THIS
whatever it was,-nnd 1lsd nothing further to do
| with it, after the West Water street meeting
| Further, that Crosby simply acted as Sam Kinds-
koprs agent, the other parties washing their hands
OF tho entire affair on tho advice Of tue Witness
Col Goodwin said the Government had attempt
cd to. show BY inference that this scheme what
| ever it WIS, had
| NEVER REEs ABANDONED.
and all the parties defendant wern equally guilty
ST he
thCA up to the time Of the last interview refer
red TO by the witness, the only project engaged in
Was the engagement Of Prcttyman as counsel,
which projec1 fell through, and all, the parties
withdrew except Crosby and from that time be e. Re.
mained merely as sam Rindskopf,s agent That
Crosby acted, ind that the other parties
| so WITHDREW,
was all the defense now desired to show:
Witness vas analy suffered M 81 to say that Gro5ny
! waukee that the general plan had fallen through,
HIT he remain at work in the interests Of Sam
went to Iowa and Southern illinois in the interests
Of Nj. Rindskopf, respecting the release Of some
whisky, and in the general interests Of RindsEopf.
Witness advised defendants to break up ne9otia-
tons because there seemed to be unity Of sentt-
mcnt OF consolidation OF interests among the Mil
waakec men, There was an Interview at the Sher-
man House few days after his advice
| To. ABANDON THE sCuEME,
Several Milwaukee distillcrs whom he did not know
were present Jonas andvitncss weEc the ofly
Chicago men who were present. Crosby WAS MOI
in Chicago or Cook County that day. Witness
would not have sone if Crosby was in town. and only
did so at the persona! SOLICITATION OF gonas Jonas
| said, t%These Milwaukee fellows are here, let's Ec
and see them. y When witness and Jonas enter.
edthe room, they found The Milwaukee men talkins
hcatcdly, md in something witness thought was In:
dian, but Jonas said was Hehrew. Witness said
''Let s get out OF this soon as possible. Asl
them to drink, and get off quietly with offending
them" q" 1t appeared they were talking about pay:
| ing money. They were apparently quatreling.
Jonas asked them 10 take something to drink, ant
they
READILY FELL IN WITH THIS,
! and, soon 0ftcr Jonas and witness left
! Witness advised leaving because he saw Ehe1
were quarrclling, and
lie D1STRUsTED THEM,
and preferred having nothing to do with them
Knew nothing Of any written agreement said u
have been prepared by HIM Never prepared an,
such agreement Nothing took place that witness
| could not hear, as he was with Jones the who'll
time, and'went home with HIM Never heard any
thing Of any plan to steal documents; heard Crosb
say Prettymsn. az Hsdr'ck,s relative, would hav
| ofI,a.