New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1876-04-04
RICHARD b. IRWIN'S TESTIMONY

CEIyEp FROM PACIFIC MAH-Sl7O.00O PRE-
vIoUsIY RECEIVED FROM MIR. sToCKwELL-TnE
PAYMENTS TO WILLIAM s. KING AND OTHERS.
The examination of Richard b. Irwin, who
was arrested ON the charge Of Rdfds Hatch that he had
embezzled $75O000 from the Pacific Mail Steamship
Company, continued before Judge Bixby yesterday
at the Office OF Yanderpoel, Green Cunning III TIE
TRIBUNE building
Mr. Irwin testified that under stockwes directions
he dsbursed the $3.50 900 that he received the checks
for that amount from Mr. Bellows then Vice President OF
the Company The witness dsbursed personally the FOL
lowing sums To Charles Albert, attorney and counsel
for the Pacific Nail Company at Washington vi ooO
to b. f. Cheever either $4,000 $4,000, probably the
latter sum to Samuel A. Hatch, $4,000; to Schuyler
r. Ingraham, 50 900 TO William :. King Si0oOoo; 10
william Norman, $4,000; to John A. Bryce, $500 ;
TO William B. shaw. 5000 10 Charles II. Sheriff.
Sl65OO; to John !. Schumacher 100000; 20 Augustus
H. whiting Sol 800 10 Mr. Randall $4,000; to Mr.
Beret 1000 10 Mr.. Canuck $500 to George H.
rradhury 10000: to Mr. Ayeril, 1000; 10 Mr.. FAINT
81 900; and 10 Richard C. Parsons ~ 500
Mr. Irwin stated that the S750OO0 was disbursed with
the ledge and under the direction OF Mr. stockwe
Mr. stockwe him directions in letter IRON Se%
York which he received III Washington req ID l9'@
When asked about the pay ment OF Ssooo 10 ~
Mr. Irwin said that 1t was pad IN two o pare nD
which was 9ither for $500 or 5000, he Thought the
former was paid by a check delivered 10 Cheeyer by
himself i'm Che Pacific Mail Steamship Company office In
New York This he thought was III April lS1Z Inc SEE
oud payment made c1tIeT on thc %0h on -' VI "s
oS the same wear lie got money back from CheeVer
Cheever lobbyist IN Congress before the depart
ments He did not know whether or not CheeVer hi ~
ercsed his personal influence Win any meieI o. tne
House Senate. This money was pald before n1 re-
ceIycd any of the checks for the TI5oooo lie hau re-
ccyed other moneys but whether they came from lie
Company from Mr. stoeGweil he could not say, ne
Tie $500 that he paid To Mr. Cheevcr IN the first Instance
was paid out the money received from Mi SiocAW
any from samuel A. Hatch, to whom he made three pay
mcns OF money, except Mr. Hatchs indoreemeht Oh tDc
- h.. t.la IA II
To- MIR Hatch he had known him about hall an
hour. Neither Mr. Hatch nor Mr. Cheeyer rendered
Mr. Hatch to be paid $1,000 for his services IN
assisting get the bill through the House OF Rerese
tatiye, He was to his influence with Senators ana
Representatives for the passage OF tue mn lhc Whebs
delivered check for $4,000 70 Hatch AT dhe iionnn
House ON MAY ~, 1872. lie pad $1,000 10 MI. lu
graham Tor services Washington In behalf OF the bill
Tns was about August, 1872. lngrdiain gave no re-
eint eXccpt his unorsent the back OF he check
The check he thought had been destroyed he paid M
T Tba ast ceeR was for lie TOOK receipt
Tue check was so drawn that Mr hinS could ee'
the money without indorslng IL. Mt hIS was en-
poyed Dy the Pacific Mail Steamship Company before ne
lIrwin came San Francisco. He knew II by tnc
abatement Of the ident Of the Company, ana by the
fact that the President caused him 10 b. Introduced To
MIR King. King was employed to Assist IN getting ti1
i'm March, 1872 to give Nh King all the money lie eaod
Just aler the pas sage OF the bi MT NM 10
him what amount lie should require for his serscss lie
paid Mr.. King various amounts, agare6atns DeSiues
the Philadelphia check, $4,000 , a., s--o ooo
Mr. Irwin stated that before he received tne
Ill cheeks he Thought he had received aDonl
Tram SOckWel. lie received the money AT uHeIcnt
times: $4,000 was received about Jan. 20, lcl-i
$40 900 on Feb 20, 1872 $4,000 on April - ISL
300 % on May IL, 1872, and S1UOOo on May -, iol%
About Jour months elapsed Mr. Irwin shu, from 'he
tlne of his FIRST acqlana Win Mr. king uh ne ldu
paid hun money 10 the aggregate amount OF Ti1O,ooO.
lie paid Augustus H. Whiting %o0,ooo at MS once Oh
broadway. A. II. ....
occurreI on MAY "a, 1872, between himself and Mr.
Slockwel relative to the checks Tor @|Jo,ooo MI
Irwin SAID: Tue interview occurred In tue Presidents
room in the CJmpanys office. As near III remember,
Mr. Sockweii began the conversation Will some general
| REMARKS ana went To say that MIR. BeOws Hal mo
checks ready whenever went after thcI A1ttr-
ward MIR SOckwen said, " have been talking TO some
Oh the rectos about the matter, and thcy think ought
10 la we some account the III which TINS money
IL Ia be cxpendcd. OF the persons Wuo are 10
get it, the amount they are 10 pave ana the precise
| nature Of the services which each one mas
| rendered They think we odsht 10 nave NOuch-
| prs for it before dl-burse so large an
| amount OF money" / said, WAS that the under
standing between us Z" Hs turned his head aside Tor
u,oucnt aud said Yes." / said, Mr. Stockwcll, wa.
that the Understandings" lie said, No, no! exactly
| Tleu said what was the Understandings lie said
" dou't recollect; IL is in that letter." something Oi
| tlat sort WELL" | said, " what was itP He sad
You were to have IL lump sum 10 cover your expense
ana the expenses all engaged after the bill passed
Well" lie SAID "nOw think We ought to have an ac-
count" SAID, "Was II understood that there was 10 DC
an account before the money was PAID lie su wac
not; that the original arrangement would be CARR Out
and tat Mr.. Bellows would give me the checks wheh
| called for them.
| Mr. Irwin obtained the checks the next day.