The New York herald., 1876-09-12

IN NV i O10
elected Bus do mot think that their carrying Ohio
10 all probable
Commemorative II the republicans carry Ohio
and the democrats Indiana-what s the outlook thcns
The President tafter cogitasing while)-rhen tho
chances pretty even for both partieA
DANGERS IILpHs's ELECTION
CoRRssroxDxsr-Nr. President DO you agree with
some Of the extremists who the advent of demo-
cratic power danger OF another attempt secessonf
The PREsrpEsr-Oh tafter deliberationl
The great danger OF allowing the democratic party
obtain oonsro in all the branches of the government
that that they would temporarily bankrupt tho
country
Corr RRssroyDEKr-By whatf
The PREsIpsxT-By allowing Southern war claims
and damages for property destroyed during the
amounting to millions and millions, and by pensionfng
on the Confederate soldiers
CoKREsrorpESr-On what possible plea could they
take the latter step?
The PRESIDENT turning round and looking full in
the face)-On what possible pleas Because they Will
claim that those fought honestly American cth
xens for an honest purpose and in good spirit
the Northern soldiers who havo bcen pensioned, and
that they provoked and driven into the war by
the North There would oven be danger that tho
claims for the value Of would be considered and
paid
TILpEy's WAR RECORD
CoRREsroxpESr-Republican journals have assaied
Tildens record Did 1t mako any impression upon
you while leader OF the Union armys
Tho PREMpsxr-No It did not ] remember tho war
record of Seymour and tho democrats generally.
The President did not say "bad rocord," but his
manner and tone loft little doubt to what no
meant
Tho PRESIDENT (ruminating)-I do not remember
Tilden though have general remembrance OF him
thon, OF course ms having been great light OF the
democratic party. By the way, doesn't Seymour say
In his letter that why Tildcn should DO
elected is that the Senate will be republican anyway,
that the democratic party couldn't do any harm cvcn
II II would
The President smiled malicously and his eyes
laughed ho made telling point Of this admission.
The PREsIDESr-Docsn't that show that they them
selves confess that they trusted with full
control or all tho branches OF the government!
Corr RRRspoNpKNr-But, MI. President perhaps the
cemocrats may not acknowledge Seymour as their
proper mouthpieco
RESPONSIBLE
Tho PRHsrpENr-According to tho Times newspaper,
the letter Tildcn and revised by him. Ker-
and othcr leaders, and then. IN its revised form,
rcadoped by Seymour. SO that Tilden aud the party
decidedly responsible for the letter.
Tho PRESIDENT Oahtly as though that was matter
into which he did desire 20 very exensively)-
Yes, have met Mr.. Tiiden four hve times (Afer
pause during which tho President kept rocking him
self assduousy In the hugo rustic chair which he
cupied)-I Mr.. Tilden going explain his income
return.
CoRREsroNDExr-Yes an official statement has been
promised Mr. President, have you any important
news TO give to the HRRALD9
THE PRESIDENT DEPENDS CROOK
The PREsIDENr-l don't know anything just now
which would specially interest the HERALD. with
smile the HERALD still puts for General Crook.
speaking slowly and with care) Crook undoubtedly
our best Indian lighter and feel convinced that no
will finally settle the Sioux he did the Idahos. Wo
had trouble with the Idahos after he whipped
them, and we shall have more trouble with the
Sioux after the present campaign.
CoRREsroNDENr-Most people regard the campaign as
over.
Tho PEssIpExr-They will find themselves mistaken
In so far decisive results Crook Is
not going to put himself into position where he can
be whipped He is prudent man. But now that tho
cold weather will begin the Indians will find II
impossible to ind sustenance for their poaes, and will
have to sue for terms Crook is going do with the
Indians l did with Lee.
WHEN GOT AFTER HIN,
and when did not give him time TO repair damages
The last words had faint touch OF pardonabe PRIDE
as though the President recalled with glow OF
pleasure those stirring memories Of his splendid
tories
CoRREsPoSDrxr-Then you sec 10 danger In the
situation in the Indian country. Mr.. Presidentf
The PRxsIpsxr-The only danger I see now is that
the Sioux may upon the miners In the Black
Hills and destroy them. I don't know whether they
are strong enough for that, but they may be-
Copprspoxnrvr- not send troops n the srk
Hills forthwith Mr. President, to protect the
The PREsrpExr-The too late, and there's
not sufficient time left to get troops to tho Black Hills
before Indians could attack them besides which
could means Of communication to supply
them Tho terms Of our treaty with the Sioux forbid
1t also
GOLD IN THE BLACK HILLS
CoRREsroxpKSr-Thc gold fever is considered the
cause of the trouble. Now do you think, Mr. Prcsi-
dent that the excitement is justified by the presence
OF gold In the Black Hills?
The ePREsIpESr-General Custer made a very glowing
report There is doubt that quantity of gold
exists few days before left Washington Governor
Edmunds, of Dakota, who is Q brother Of Senator
Edmunds of Vermont, showed me specimens of the
gold found and from what he said became convinced
that gold exists the Black Hills In largo quantities
According to Governor Edmunds' reports there Is
so much placer gold there quartz gold. When the
mines shall have been thoroughly explored a much
gold will be found there in California
CoRREsPoxpxxr-If this Is so people will make a
rush for the Black Hills
Tho PRESIDENT tspcak:ng In the calm, leisurely
srain and keeping up tho gentle rocking his mon.
stcr chair)-I should advise people stay away until
the present troubles and until we have ex-
tnguished the titles of the Indians the lands which
they sold by treaty. This treaty not a wise onc
We shall regain the titlc to tho land by treating with
the friendly Indians ana taking of tho hostile
savages.
The subject of the Indian difficulties was SO thor.
oughly exhausted by tho President by this timc--a
largo portion OF previous interview having been