The weekly clarion. [volume] (Jackson, Miss.) 1863-1882, 1876-03-15
Two Dollars a Year.

/ Q. Did the boy Gomez
a. les.
/ Q. Did he say about having got Col.
! Gibbs 70 come tor YOU:
/ A. Yes.
q. He sent boy after you, and the boy
came?
A. Yes the boy came.
q. Was message brought by the boy
1 from Col Matthews:
A. Yes.
.. What was the message?
\ He wanted 10 see me in town. cannot
tell You now exactly what IL was.
z. What did he say 10 you when you got
to his office?
Counsel Morris objected to what Col.
Matthews said or anybody else said.
Manager Barksdale replied, that at this
stage OF the trial such testimony was adj
Missile, in which opinion he was sustained
by the Senate.
q. VIVA did be say to you?
4. Wen, when me and my friend were
going down 10 the livery-stable, and then
TO the horse track about a mile from town.
went aud looked on merely and had no more
to 10 with the horse race than any gentleman
in this place. When l saw Col. Matthews
lac as6ed mc why | did not go to his office
that | should have gone to his Office that il
was matter of Importance to me.
Q. What matter did he refer to?
y. He did not say he only said what
have just spoken, and i'm the manner |
tell il TO you; lac said it was a matter OF
Importance.
q. But do you know what matter Ae re-
A. Well, l supposed it was this pardon he
had reference to.
Q. Did he speak to you on the subject OF
that pardon
\. Not right then.
q. In that interview and conversation
did you get the pardon from him
A Col. Gibbs joined us i'm a few minutes
a2d very few words were said. Col. Gibbs
came in about that time and Joined us in
his office. Well, AFTER a while Col. Mat
thews produced the pardon and said
There is a pardon for your boy" | asked
him what he thought about the validity of
the pardon. Hc~said he did not know. |
said Col. Matthews this is not the thing |
bargained with you for; You were to pro-
cure me pardon from Ames for $l,250.
Well, sir, said he, owing to the hotel diff
Guilty between him aud Governor Ames, the
thing was put up in this shape. Well, |
told him that was not thing | had ever
bargained for in that shape.
Q. Now state if any thing was said on the
subject ofyour giving any money or dis
posing of any money in connection with
the receipt of that pardon?
a. Well, was dissatisfied in regard to the
pardon, and Matthews remarked, that You
can satisfy yourself with il or not, just rs
you see fit, know nothing more about il
or Its validity than you, but il you are salts
fled with it you can leave the check with
Col Gibbs or bandit over to him.
q. State what you did with the check
y, | carried this check around TO Mr..
Atwell Johnson. Mi. Bell and Col. Gibbs
5l friends of mine
you became satisfied with the pardon TO
leave the check for $3.50 with Col. Gibbs,
did you do that?
A. Yes, | did.
Q. Who was the cheel, on2 How much
for Who in favor of And how signed
A checked on William johnson for $3.50,
payable to Matthews think, endorsed by
Atwell johnson. signed by A. +. Andrews
for me, by my order.
Q. Did you 90 home that night?
A. | went home and took the pardon
with me.
pardon:
a. / did.
@. What did you do with that?
a. ! sent that to my son.
q. Where was your son?
Mr. Spears objected, and the question was
withdrawn.
Q. Where did you send the pardon for
your son?
A. To South America-that is where | in
tended him to go.
@ How long was it after you got that
first pardon and went home, before You got
the second pardon?
a. | am unable to tell YOU.
Q, You can form some idea?
a. | could not.
Q. Whether it was three months or six?
y. No, neither-it was not three months or
six, but | could not tell you the time. Ii
might have been a month.
Q. Who first suggested this plan Of par
don?
a. DO you mean who first suggested it to
me?
Manager Barksdale: Yes.
A. Wen, | met Col. Gibbs on the road
above my town: He said lie had been to my
house and wished to see me. He was in a
buggy and ! was on horseback.
9. Well, | just want TO know il in cOnsc-
quence OF what Col. Gibbs told you. any
thing was said between you and Col.
Matthews. and ifhe went to you or you
went to him2 Did you get any message
from Col. Matthews on the subject of that
pardon, in consequence of which you went
To him
A. Col. Gibbs told me that Col. Matthews
wanted to see me.
Q. Did you go to Matthews
A. | went to him and had a talk with
him.
O. Did you tell him that Col. Gibbs told
you that he wanted to see you
a. | do not know.
O. Was ANYTHING said on the subject Of
this pardon at his Office, and did you speak
to him first or he to YOU
A. ! cannot say.
Q. Now state what was said by Col. Gibbs
when he met you
A. When I met Col. Gibbs, he said Col.
Matthews wanted to see me, in regard to
obtaining a pardon for my son. This was
about Is miles from Columbus, where | met
Col. Gibbs, aud it might have been in two
three or four days after ! went TO Col.
Matthew'S office. | had "a talk with Col.
Matthews, who told me he thought he could
obtain a pardon for my boy for $4,000
which | refused to give and with that !
quit. Afterwards he found out that had
in nv possession Il cannot say who APP
preached the other lirst) had afiidavit5 Of
DR. MunsOn ana Major Hendricks am
not positive If / had the dihdavits and
carried them to him, or whether lac came
10 me about them. but when he saw them
81 go.
Counsel for the respondent and Manager
Barksdale objected
/ The question was put 10 the Senate and
ruled out by the following vote:
| YEAs-Messrs. Albright, Callicott, Ever
! EFT, Furlong, Gray, GriAin. Mcneil,
! Pratt. Shirley. Smith, Stewart, Stone. Terry.
| futile White--l5.
NAYs-Mcssrs. Barry, Carter, Cathings,
| Chalmers. Fswell FITZGERALD. FOotc, era
! ham. Hooker. Johnston, McCa>ktll, Men
/ denhalL Nets. Morgan, Oldham, Reynolds,
! Sims, Taylor, Thompson-l9.
! ABSENT AND NOT VOTING-Senators Al
/ len, Mcclure and Thornton.
! Counsel Morris resumed:
q. What became of the aiiidayits?
! A. / DO not know.
q. What did you do with them
A. / handed them 10 Matthews.
Q. Did you ever see them again;
| A. Never.
Q. These were the certificates of Hen
bricks and Munson?
A. Yes.
O. Did you have any other?
a. Yes.
Q. Whose was it.
A. Mrs. Tom Yates, think; but l am not
certain.
Bv Counsel Spears: You state, Mr. Bar
rentine, that the first Of these pardons, orig
mated in Col. Gibbs telling you that h'