The daily dispatch. [volume] (Richmond [Va.]) 1850-1884, 1876-12-13

The whole number of senators and repre-
sentattYes are one hundred and fifty seven.
1t is safe to predict that on Thursday Hamp-
ton will be inaugurated, and an entire sep
arate government established. The con-
gressional committee have already discov-
cred frauds, in the snppression Of the votes
of thirty Dem ocratic boxes in. the Board OF
Canvassers' statements, and such other err
rors as will give .Tilden the vote OF the
State. ',l,s
81 Associated Press telegrams.l 7sess
INTERESTING NATTER CONCERNING THE GLE
GALLY-CONsTITgTED HOUSE IN COLUMBIA
MR.. HEWITT'S TELEGRAMS TO PRESIDENT
GRANT-AN INTERVIEW WITH HIS EXCEL
LENCY-THE TRUE STATE OF THE CASE AS RE-
PORTED BY Mr.. hewitt.
WAsH1NGT0N, December 12.-The follow
ing is furnished by Hon. Abrarn S. Hew-.
lit, addressed to the Washington agent of
the Associated Press SIN yesterdays pa
pers fnda dispatch from. you reciting
conversation with President Grant in refer
ence to the unfortunate state OF affairs in
South Carolina, and my interview with him
in relation thereto. So far as South Carolina
was concerned the President enioined no
confidence, but expressly stated that was at
liberty to communicate his views to the pub
lie. He did enioin confidence in regard to
what he said Of Louisiana affairs, and that
confidence have respected, although have
already stated to him that believe the pub
lication Of his statement would do much to
tranquilize the public mind. In regard to
South Carolina the President stated that in
his judgment not less. than sixty-three
members having certificates from the Secre-
tary Of State were available to organize the
House and transact business. As this view
accorded with my own, and no confidence
was enioined, telegraphed the following
language: ~.
"a. G. HASKELL, Chairman, Charleston, s..
o. l am able to say that neither House
will be recognized by the President until it
gets siXty-three members holding original
certificates from the Returning Board.
.ABRAM S.. HEWITT.
My object in sending this dispatch was
that thought it would tend to allay excite
ment in South Carolina, and prevent col
lision between the people andthe troops,
Of which we were very apprehensiye on
the 9th of December. received reply
which induced me to send the following
kilograms to the President: 2-.s s:.s =
"Io the President: have received o re-
liable telegram from Columbia, stating that
the sixty-three members holding, certifi-
cate from the Secretary OF State have been
sworn into the House presided over by
Speaker Wallace, which is there organized
in accordance with the requirements OF law
as stated by you." RI n " aEI.f'I rsg.
"1o the President: have Just received q
later dispatch saying that the Supreme
Is linz hoor na1
Judgment and declared the House presided
constituted. House of Representatives, and
that Dlackey is a private. person, and not
Speaker or in any respect IN officer OF the
legislative body" '. r., ..' ~.
On the evening OF the same day Senator
Randolph suggested that he and T should
call upon the President and ask him whether,
under the circumstances, he could not
see his way clear to order the Withdrawal
of the. United States troops from Columbia
and recognize the House OF Representatives
so constituted with siXty-three members
The President granted US an interview,
which began by my saying that had
sent him two kilograms from the House
in reference to South Carolina affairs
The President at once replied that he had
received them, and that very late on the
preceding evening he had received a tele'
gram from Columbia saying had informed
parties there that the President would re-
coenize as the legal House that body which
should have siXty-three members with GER
tiicates from the Secretary of State. The
President said that he had replied that he
had not made any such statement; that he
did not believe / had said that he had done
so: and that at any rate it was not true: ]
replied that had not sent any telegram tc
that effect, but had sent one as nearly rs
could recollect as follows: 81 am able tc
say that the President will not recognize
either House that does not contain sixty
three members with original certificate!
from the Returning Board"
The, President; replied. 8. That is cor
rect:rI did say so. That was my private
opinion; but I did not say that would
recognize a House that had sixty-thret
members" ~ ~ ~ (, !: ~. asS ~,
Ireplied: assThat is true; but Think II
is implied, and we have come to ask you Is
do So" - a>a 60. s.,.'t go 80
The President replied that as at present
advised he must decline to recognize the
House containing siXty-three members, and
he did not know that he would recognize
the other House that Chamberlain was
Governor until some one was regularly in
augurated in his place, and that he should
sustain him. >
The President did not say that had vio-
lated his confidence in any particular; but
he said it would have been a violation OF
his confidence il / had sent the telegram re-
ported to him from Columbia, the sending
of which 1 again denied. ], then reminded
the President that he had the means OF test.
ing the accuracy OF my :recollections Of bis
statement, because Immediately after the
interview ON Tuesday had dictated the
substance OF the conversation and furnish.
ed him with a copy and requested him to
return to me with any corrections he might
choose to make, either to be published il
he would consent, or to be retained fol
his future justification in case, after
the, 4th. !, of March next his inten.
tions should be called in question.
He has not returned me the copy so fur.
nished, nor made any correct tons therein to
nv knowledge. The President said nothing
To me in regard to my using any OF bis
statements for the purpose Of defeating the
party which he {the President) represented
/ have never regarded the President OF the
United States as representing any party
and 1 shall regret to see the President taks
any other position than that OF the vene
rated head of the .neeple OF the. United