The Rutland daily globe. [volume] (Rutland, Vt.) 1873-1877, 1876-07-31
Ex-sOLICIT0R BLUF0RD WILSON'S
STORY.
The Charges Against Wilson.
CONTINUED from Saturdays Globe

In further response to the question of the |
committee, he said Both the secretary and |
myself were early led to entertain grave ap-
prehension as to what the issue would be
in the Babcock matter, for the reason that |
learned from the president and from
s. Bell himself that the president had
recommended him to 60 to st. Louis.
learned from the president, from @. s.
Bell and from the attorney general that 1t
was in contemplation to employ Bell to go
to st. Louis and report, not to Dyer, but
directly to the attorney general, and that
the reason for his retention was that the
president understood that Dyer and Hen
derson intended to implicste him in the
frauds if possible. December 1S, 1875, l
wrote to Dyer as follows
"And now word of caution. You have
made a mistake in trusting G. s. Bell. He
has been pretending to know that you have
been cndeavoring to implcate the presi-
dent, and it is possible that he may return
to st. Louis. If ne does put your best
man on at once, and you will soon see
where he trains. If he calls upon you
don't let on that you suspect, but don't
trust him, and have him watched. Mind
what / say. l know what | am writing
about, and you must burn this on your
honor"
will state further that made such rep
reeentations to the attorney general and to
the president when learned that it was in
contemplation to send this man Bell to St.
Louis as induced them to reconsider their
proposed action, and he was not employed
It is a fact that the president was intensely
earnest in the Babcock matter in oppos-
ton to the views Of the secretary and my
self. On the 25th of December he sent for
| mn op1 nnnfrnntpI with tho rh q
that ii was reported to HIM that was try
ing to have his brother Orvills Grant,
and his son Col. Fred. ID. Grant, in
dicted for completely in the frauds, and
in the course of conversation he again as
serted to me his earnest belief in Babcock's
| innocence, and his sense Of the great out
rage that had been perpetrated on him by
Henderson and Dyer in refusing to send to
the military court atChicago the original ev
idence contained in the records OF the civil
tribunal ut st. Louis as illustrating the
personal attitude of the president to my
self, may mention that Col. Grant told a
reporter of the New York Herald in De-
cember that Babcock's indictment was the
result of a conspiracy between prominent
treasury official (naming myself and Carl
Schurz this state because the reporter,
Mr.. Meeker, told me so the same evening,
! US ulI ALSO NblGHOll, anu bSCduoC L
/ brought the attention of the president him
self to it, and on the Cd day of January the
attention Of Col. Fred. d. Grant now
come to the celebrated circular letter; on
the 9th day of January, 1876, received
this note:
EXECUTIVE MANSION,
WAsHINGToN, Jan. Z, 1S76-12;l5 PM
nv Dear Solicitor: The president says to
drop you a note and ask you to come over
and seo,him. Very truly yours,
LEVI p. LUCKY"
"To Hon. Bluforj Wilson, solicitor Of
the treasury"
Before going further, will state had
twice called upon the president of thcUnited
States before l could get an interview with
him on the question of the charges against
me by Col Fred. Grant, and for that rea-
son, after that, did not call at the White
house except when was sent for; l went
over to see the president promptly, and
learned that he was dissatisfied with the
course of the secretary and myself with
reference to the conduct of the prosecu
tons AT Milwaukee, Chicago and st. Louis
he objected specifically and earnestly to oui
permitting persons who pleaded guilty t.
he used as witnesses to convict Others
lin other words, TO the testimony o.
accomplices ne uaseiledd my at
iffhihiS of Milwaukee, aso.il.s, .S"ausel
nolle prosequi had been entered, and said tt
me there was quite too much of that thing
going on, and read from a report to show
tnat mol pros. had been entered for the pur
, pose of using RoddIs as states evidence
he next said to me, 81 understand Everest
has returned | suppose he has been pro
missed immunity too !" said to him "Ml
President, SO tar as | know, up to this
ate, ROddis' is the only case in which
=, mol pros. has been entered for the purpose
of accepting the party as states evidence
: IN answer 10 your question as to whether
Everest il not to be prosecuted, SHOULD
cay that have specific information on thai
point from the district attorney, and hi
tells me that no promise whatever has beer
made to him, and that none will be !" hi
asked me what Everest would testify to
told him that it was said Everest would
testify that he saw Joyce mail two letters
containing $500 each, one addressed to Bah
cock he asked when Everest returned;
, told him that he had returned about Jan.
10, 1876; he asked me If knew where he
was; told him that believed he was
: then with his uncle somewhere in Western
Pennsylvania, he said to me "Major,
when | said Let no guilty man escape
meant 1t, and not that nine men should es-
cape and one be convicted;" said to him:
"Pardon me, Mr.. President, we are not in
this battle counting heads, we are trying to
break up unlawful conspiracies and com.
binations which we all know exist, and il
possible to reach those who have inspired
and organized them, and known of no
other way of doing this and obtaining
proof of conspiracy than by going inside
the ranks of the conspirators, and give
it to you as my judgment that the
policy which has been adopted by
local counsel upon their independent
judgment and not under instructions OF
either the secretary or myself will result in
accomplishing this purpose, and that none
other will; !" Secretary Chandler sat just
back at the furthest end of the cabinet
room, and | said to the president: "Mr.
President, if you give me time to go into
this matter, think | could satisfy you
that you are laboring under misapprehcn-
sion" "Oh," said he, 't is not worth
while; / simply wanted to call your at
tentioa to the fact that in my Judgment
there is too much of this going on"
said TO him; "That being so, have moth
ing to do, Mr.. President, but to bid you q
good morning." and l did 90. l went out
deeply impressed with what the president
had said to me l went to the secretary of
the treasury and told him what had taken
place: l said to the secretary that in my
opinion it was of vital importance that he
should see the president on that subject /;
that had reason to believe and did be-
leve that A. p. Tuition, then lately re-
turned from Chicago Con January 20, be-
lieve), had endeavored to create an impress
sion in the mind of the president that we
were giving away everything in the city of
Chicago for the purpose of convicting
Resmend, Hesng and Ward, and while the
question as to the propriety of the policy
was not important, it was important that
he should see the president Immediately,
take with HIM his letters to Tuition, let me
take my letter to Tuition and his kilograms
to Webster and explain to the president the
whole case; he reluctantly consented we