, 1876-01-23
The Line to Be Pursued to Break Down
Reeds Testimony.


called BY Hill. Tho proceedings were manly
uaEkable yesterday from, tho fact that Mrs Re
wsa most critically cross-ex.mined by i
Ketchum, who put his questions With great fort
Jama8 Reed vas also recalled, and hia mann
and bearing we're cool, get he WAS considerat
put out At tlmea by tho scorching questions p
to him by Mr. Ketchum in tho recross- -examin
tlon, and hia redirect examination chang
no material points heretofore produce
Judge HOPKINS. too. listened to tho legal pom
Raised durlnR the examination OF witnesses, NJ
could not but have been bored by the qubbl
aud objections raised, which oltent lines had 1
bearing on the points in dispute.
| THE PROCEEDINGS
were opened By recalling Mrs. Reed, who va
cross-examiued by Mr. Ketcnum. She vi
somewhat shaken from the testimony she CAV
on the ptavtoua day. Then she STATED that he
vlhat to New York Was osteusibly to see Turner
yet yesterday she testified that her husband ha
lett PhiladeIphia suddenly, and at nlldnigh,
! when tho Sheriff from Cooper County, Mo-, la
| called upon him to take him on q requisitio
from that State to auBwer certain charges o
! forgery In refutation also OF tho statameu
thai ho had plenty of money to go to New Yorl
on. it was shown that hls funds we're so 10,
that ho Aaa 10 pawn his watch, tho pawn -ticke
boing produced in court. Tha theory Of th,
| evidence produced was to show that she ha4
| uot goue to New YORK to see Turner, but Le
husband, who was then sailing under th,
| Au45 ol JChepQ WRIGHT
/ In rebustal, Mr. Barnum re-a1auined tn
witness, during which
] was produced in which it WAS stated by her hus
band that she wsH to come here to testify to tl,e
truth, hit or mass," and WIS signed "O'er the
bulls and far away" which counsel for the de-
fen8e thought vary poetic indeed In her re-
d1ect examination, she also statod that she had
received three letters all, aud no other tele.
grams than those produced on tho st1ud Fri
day.
JAMES REED
was recalled aad cross examined by Mr, Eetch-
uu1, WHO asked him the following Questions,
which are given since they appear to outtlue the
policy Of the prosecution when it COMES to break-
ing down Rsed's testimony and that OF h.s
wife:
Q.-Mr- Reed, did you not In the month Of septen-
ber October, or November but ut al events After
closing up Of the criminal trial Of Hr. Turner in tho
Criminal Court and beore the commencement OF this
suit have au interview with Leouard Swett attor-
ney and counselor At Law Of this city, the
Palmer House7 A.-Yes, sir, did, Ia the month oi
October
DIN the month Of october A-Yes, str
Q--Wiu you III tho data Of thAt interview7 AL
cannot without going to the Palmer House record.
Q.-Can you give me tho number ct the room? H.
cannot do that.
Ola which tho interview was he]d2 A--No, asr;
It vas in the room occupied. however.
flQ.-Did you send FOX Mr. Swett on that OCCASION
A. did not
Odd you On that occasion tell Mr. sustt that
~ the effect that your testimony given in criminal
court, aud taken In your deposition In this case was
untrue7 A--So, cir; did not.
Q-Did you not say to him thst you desired, IA =
substance that Ill The testimony YOU Ind given - to
the manufacture Of these Deeds including those in tbs
Ha{ord claim, the Criminal Court and in the depo-
aiion taken ia th1s case. WAS 1alse7 A--So, ssr;
Q.-Dla you not SAX Mr. swett's assistance to en-.
able yoa to place yourself in position where you
could rAkn such an affidavit and YET be sa1o from
p@Ton asd not On that oeession 1enresept 1 @ 10 ur
SWEET your In pecuniary sense. and that
you desired to dec the country but first to
Q.-Did you on that occasion make OF seek to make,
any arrangement with Mr. Swett by which an AtdAvit
should he made in tho future, provided VOL should en-
ters&tn the mind that you then held? A--No, air;
did not.
.Q.-Nd you OF not mako any arrangement
. future interview, With that for tho object
A.-So. sir; did not
Q.-Did you Lave any conversation with hi. swots
that occasion looking to the act upon your part Of
mating afddavit7 A-No. 4ir; did not.
Q.-SoW ME. Reed. you had 4 conversation with |
Il. Bsbee u Detroit understood you to say7 A.
Q.-Nas there anybody present In either Of tho
Ferzations; there Fas ono OF more: Al thnk at
>ue Of the conversations Mr. Holmes present.
Q*-How many conversations were there with Mr.
3isbee! A.-We1, 1t was-he Wa there for day, I
nd Ke had it OF and On converting about these uat
arR.
Q.-Any alsa7 A---No sir; It IL mot natural |
hardly possihle-fof doing such business take
many tnto their coincidence
Odd you not A1E. Reed On that occasion, try to
lego:iats with Mr. bisheo such an arrangement II |
sould mako 1t safe IN Tho Of protecting you
a.it that what you bad to. touching the manu-
actose and forging ct thsss deeds was untrues A.
10. l did not.
Odd you not propose to Mr. Blsbee, for money,
0 mako such an atadavit7 A.-No. sir; did not
Q.-Dia you not name to Mr. Biabee place to which
gu desired 70 60 for safety. provided Mr. Bisoee
fhA nrS1ay YnF ftnFr k1f
liz 1rlends7 A--Mouey for INC for what purpose7
Q.-To get you ont Of the county, wheso you would
e safe from prosecution. provided you made such an
Q-Did yop make any propositions, looking that
bject, 10 that purpose1 A.-No. SIX.
Q.-Havo you had in ths city It any time since the
rilninal trial 1t conversation With Mr Ncc4uslsna
,oney to gat you out OF the country where you would
o safe from criminal prosecution, TINT you Wnnld
glad 10 make Affidavit a3tin1 that what you had
to in the crimnAl trial aud what you had
In your deposition sgainst Mr. Turner touching the
anufacturs Of those deeds. WAS untrue. Al say
q, mir.
Q.-po you know man In this city by tho MATHS OF
oggs? Al do. air.
Y.-Have you not, s.neo tho criminal trial in tho
ty Of Chicago, said to H. Boggs, Or lugcesod TINT
III would be willing to make affidavit that all you
I'd stated as wltnesa in the criminal trial aganat
J. Turner was untrue, Or words to that effect A.
~ have my Answer in tho othor one; |
Q-H anything was said In the presence Of Mr..
ome9 to Mr. At2boo, On the occasion Of your inter-
ew, interview at Detroit sou state the worda,
the substance Of tho WHOLE my part Of such in
rvisw or interviews A---No, Iii, cannot.
At this stage the Court took \ receBs till
clock. .
After the Court zeconvened Reed still held the
and and Was examined By 0lr. B411um, and
stalled
THE ALLEGED CONVERSATION
th Swett, and also the conversation With Mr. !
sbee at the Russell House, Detroit. Some old
ound ras gone over again Witness stated
at he had other tolegrams from Mr. Bisbee
an those published but they all referred to +
. same things previously reported. The wit
sB stated that in Detroit there Was no aIluBion !
ade to falee affidavit. He Was only aHked to
Aye the country, and nothing more suggested
sbee stayed in Detroit but one day. He met i
sCausland first in the Criminal Court
ON, aud knew him only as private de- T
:ttye. He met him in his place Of business =
CO had eight or ten conversations with 1Ic-
usland; knew Doggs only as private detec-
q; Boggs cama and introduced himself as 3
vate detective he told witness pitifui story n
4 obtained SIS. Boggs had told witness the r
= before that they {the other side) bad better
get him to testify. Us he could state mora 71
IN that sido would like to hear ~
Charles L. Tinker, General Superintendent ct a,
Atlantic Pacific Telegraph Company, tes- Il
ed to the correctness OF tho kilograms, tue y
ginals OF which we're produced under IN -