, 1876-05-13
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times hnye known him to
Rave THEM IN HIS PocEETBooh-
Q.-kccp them in his pocketbooE: A--"en'
don't know that be kept then, there, ,o- co,.
siderable time! A-Yes. sir; sometimes. leoaso
not say whether he had them in his posketbIoof.
he carry it along sometimes for week: A--les'
Q,@Me III Would have number Of checks at the
number. | have seen perhaps two or three
o.~I want to know whether he Was in the> e>habit
Of carving chesss S9u ans y thar %ai IT.
ments with these parties to keep the checks until
these checks 9od mstG M e., n 81 ne wond
ecsson, and as soon as they would mature would
dcposit them in the Treasury.
M enr to anSbody ee befere
they were paid! Al don't know, sir.
Odd you ever hear Of any such case! A.-No,
TIE FIRST DEFAULT.
Q%-How did you hcst discover, Mr.. Doo!ey, inc
fact OF that dcfaut Of $50 000 when you came IN al
cashier: Al can't remember now no" l dis
The comptrollcr--Gon didn't e1sctly mean to ssy
It was default! A.-That it had the appearancs
OF being that much back-a dcdcaency-ano
thought he made it up afterwards
Mt Tutaill-1 would like to know what The ap-
peaEance WAS that made Xou think there WAS qes @
~ Q.HWhst :N led yon to think that probably he was
thought Of Ills $50, 600. think there was mem
orandun-ycs, sir, there were due bills OF his to
that amount Of The taxes Of 1871 and 1877, a not
o.-What do you mean by due bills! Ale
would give ne = due bill saying dne 60 much
o--Io the Treasurer! A.-And it was there in
Q.~Hc put them in instead Of money: Alt
- -H;s avn dne bills! A-uis OWL due bills.
Q-Whcre the money ought to have been you
would ind dua bills signed by George Won uollen'
o.-That was what led you to think there was
deficit! A-Yss, sir. I think all those things are
o. am speaking now about the time when ron
f,s1 discovered deficits When you became cashier
you found those due bills there at the time? A.,
aoss ss,a g. psoba5y nearly the
sum Of $50, COO, OF about that About thaf7
eAink, sir
us KEPr MUM.
Q.-And you gave no information to anybody
Else-to the Comptroller or anybody clsc-in refer
enee to these due bills A--No, sir. 1spoke to
Mr. Won Hollen about It.
he said be would az il! A-Yes, sir.
Q.-You spoke to nobody else but him. A.
Z donr remember, sir, Of anybody else.
nsbills, Al kow that he p Eaid me in money
"a shs
o,-Werc there generally, from that time down
to the present time, due bills Of bis there OF that
o.-How lafse e. an AMOUNT 1t any one lime was
<here Of those due-billsy Al could not tell you,
o.-Make In estimate; as near as you can approx
innate i1s A.-Weli, perhaps, $40. 600 or $50 600,
:snd sometimes 500, o00-S6o. 600, probably. I
, Q,-That has continued right along down to the
fzfescut timer A.-All the time, SIR
PRESENT DuE.nlILs.
! Q--Thefe arc due-bills OF his there noTl A.
Eea, sir, think there are in the safe.
Q.-You don't know whether they are in the
eafs, Al don't know whether they are in the safe
{ The Comptroller-Do you know how many thero
Gre! Al could not tell yop, sit.
Q,-You could not tell the amount! A--No,
cir; could not tell the amount
THE VAULT.
Q.-State who had the combination Of the vau1t
"a mi: Won Holen had it, sir. and had it.
Qt-Nho else. A--Nohody else had it-yes,
.eit, MI. Becker had the combination 70 the safe
'whcn he was in the office.
Q--Iam talking Of the vault, Sir. Al under
.6tood you the safe:
-of The vault Mr. Won Hollcn had the combination
OF the vault. Mr. HeaffoEd had the combination Of
:ss vault ana NJ Judee that VIZ in " With ~
Did yon always use the same vault, A.
Yea sir, we always used the same vault
o@W1th the money il III A-So, air, the safe
The Comptro1ler-Aret those the names Of all who
Ehd the combination OF the vault? A-Charles ).
White had the combination.
Q.-That Is Ill that had the present combination
he 4st ad4aR az tns ahs a5ss 9 9s III l.
has been Collector3 A.-No, sir; It was changed.
The combination was changed some time aso.
At was changed, / think, last December. Thcrt
were too many had the combination at that time,
and the combination was changed about the time
December last, think.
MT Tuthill-By whose direction was 1t changed!
thar tSoneht % It Would be betteE TO ehnnge hat
combination because everybody seemed to know it.
The Comptzolier--Tou think you have given the
A.EYes, si1, of iii know. He might have given
It to somebody himself.
Q+-Now state when the combination Of the safe
was changed, that is inside OF the van}tf Alt
was never changed during my time.
Q.-Then the same combination has been used
for bs IS ea
the same combination that Bgenan had whenshe
was cashier.
Nj. Brenan wa. cashier: Al don't know Of any
but Ms. Brennan and Mt. Doyle,-Ja-ncs Doyle
o.NDid not NJ Won uollen have it at that tine.
"A - could not tell yon, sir.
Q--Now, when you became cashier
WHO WERE TIE PARTIES THAT nAD TEE coMB1-
NATION!
You didn't hare it when you vas bookkeeper,
sA--No. sir.
Q-But when you became cashier you got the
Doyle
Q.-who else h.d i'll A.-Mr. Brenan; that is
~allI know Of.
Q.-Did the present bookkeeper have it. A.
NO, sir
Ole don't know 1t now. Al don't think
Ae has tho combination Of the safe unless Mr.. Won
iHollen give it to Kim.
Odd Won Hollen have it. A.-Tea, sir.
Q.-Then all the parties that Ind the co1nbfna-
Eion Of the safe are Mr.. B7enan, hr. Doyle, and
yourself. A--Yes, sir, and Mr. Becker.
+ Q.-That is the safe: A--Th.t is the safe, yes,
vov HoL1EN's CONDITION.
Q.-Now, have you noticed anything recently
'1eculiar about the conduct Of MI. Won Hollen! A.
; Q.Istate what that is! Al learned within
exhc last week or ten dayF-it was the 1atter part
Hast the latter part Of April: l learned that he
Ewas gambling. That wss the first intimation
hhat got Of It. ! learned that in the evening.
The next day, when he came to the Office, I spoke
10 him about It, and told him there appeared tc
be deficiency, and asked him II il xas possible
that be was gambling with the money: Be said no,
there was nothing at all to it. said: ~ wont
remain in the Office If this is true; will leave it. "
Says he: t'M.Ee your mind east about that; it Is
z.othins at all; there is nothing it." asked him
Whit checks he had-what he had In his possession
and be said he had some checks. told him thai
was not the place for them, he should bring them
down and lcsvc them in the Office, and asked lin
particularly about what accounts they were. KNEW
{hot he had Potter p1lmcrs Checks Save he