New-York tribune., 1876-06-24
east their votes in the delegation for Hancock who
is said to be their real candidate.


much in the way and will undoubtedly be
guided in all their actions by the New-Yorkers.
They threaten an open assault upon Gov Tilden in
the Convention, If necessary to accomplish their pur-
pose 1t is not yet known what course of action the
minority in the New-York delegation will take, or
neither they are likely to fulfill their threats of
rising in the Convention and protesting against
the casting of the vote of New-York as a
unit. Neither is it definitely known yet
what tho strength in the delegation will
be- Tammany delegate this morning did
not claim more than 20, and Tilden delegate ad-
mitted that they had that number. One of Gov.
Tiden's most conspicuous opponents in the New
York City delegation said to-day that they had 21
votes in the delegation surely, and they thought %.
his delegate said there would probably be no at
tempt on the part of the minority to raise the ques
tion of the right Of the majority to cast the
vote of the minority, inasmuch as the delegation
had been instructed to vote as a unit since 1872.
That point could not well be raised though he had
heard that it might be by some other delegation.
He said. however, that the minority wonld certainly
protest against the nomination of Gov. Tiden.
The ilden men say their opponents have reduced
their claims from 40 delegates %, but do not ad
NIT that more than 10 are opposed to Gov.
Tilden. Messrs. Kelly, Schell, Donnelly, Smyth,
Roberts, Beach, Littlejohn, Walrath, and Ross they
admit to be openly hostile, while there are grave
doubts about Messrs. Belmont, West, Stevens,
and Cuyler. William Purcell of The Rochester Union
is claimed by the 1ilden men, Notwithstanding
the apparently unfriendly of his paper. The
New-York delegation meet for organization to-mor-
row night, and the plans of both sides will doubt
less be better matured after that time. The opposi-
ton to Gov. Tden, coming from his own
State, must first necessarily be overcome before
tba tost,
rive at any satisfactory data which to base their
hopes They feel that the vital point for them is to
be able to convince the Southern delegates that Gov
Tiden can carry New-York. If they can do this,
they expect to receive the almost united support of
the South and with that to make sure of the nomi-
nation.
The uncertainty as to Tildens Southern support
makes it difficult to obtain any satisfactory estimate
of his total vote. What follows is from Gov. Hden's
best-nfonned friends. and may be taken as a state
ment of the votes they hope to receive the first
ballot, the figures being based on the suppOsition
that they overcome the opposition from Newfork.
California, Colorado, Kentucky, Name Massachu-
setts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska,
Nevada, New-York, Oregon, Texas, Vermont. they
hope to see solid for Tilden. New-England they
count as practically solid, tho exceptions
being one New-Hampshire delegate for Gen.
Hancock and one Connecticut delegate for
Bayard. In Illinois they hope for II ont of
81; in Wisconsin, Sl2 out of 10; in Iowa, o
out Of ii in Missouri, out of - in Maryland,
GIG out of the 81 in Tennessee 3l2 out of II. They
claim several friends in the Pennsylvania delcga-
ton and hope to get much of Judge Daviss strength
in the Illinois delegation if Judge Davis is
withdrawn. This, it will DO seen, is not
as estimate covering all of the Southern
fata ahout ot xyiIi n
considerable doubt in the minds of Gov. Tildens
friends; but II NAV be taken about az accurate
an estimate of the vote the first ballot his
friends hope for bo made at this
stage of the gathering. The following IL
the vote In detail Alabama, 4 Arkansas O;
California 6 Colorado. 81 Connecticut, 8; Illinois.
- Iowa. 8; Kentucky. l2 Maine. z; Maryland.
3l2 Massachusetts,, 13; Michigan. IL; Minnesota,
o; Mississippi, 8; Missouri, a; Nebraska, 3; Ne
vada, 3; New Hampshire, 4 New-York, 30; Ore
gon 3; Rhode Island, 4; Tennessee, Gig; Texas. s;
Vermont, 5; Wisconsin, Sig; total, lSoi2; neces-
sary to choice 24G.
An argument against the nomination of Gov. Til
den which is advanced by some Of the Illinois friends
of Judge Davis takes this form: 1t is admitted that
If Tilden can carry New-York against Gov. Hayes
he can probably be elected, but Gov. Ill
denis nomination makes it necessary for the
Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois, and TO depend
entirely on the united Southern vote with
that of New-YOrk, New-Jersoy, and Connecticut,
aud of the Pacific Coast States; the Southern States
counted upon include Mississippi and Louisiana, in
each of which there is probably a clear Republican
majority, which the Administration party would
never admit could be overcome by fair means,
especially if the votes of those two
States were necessary for the election of
Democratic President. If, therefore,
the Democrats concede the great States of Ohio and
Indiana and Illinois TO the Republicans in advance.
and undertake 10 carry the election by the aid OF
united South, their opponents would at once raise
the standard Of the bloody shirt and predict all
through the canvass that Democratic success could
only be achieved by intimidation in tho negro
States; this the DAVIS men say would
frighten many Northern Democrats, who
would care more for fair play and the honor OF their
party than for success. Nor. they say. would the
cry of intimidation stop with the canvass. Should
q Democrat be elected by fair majority in
the electoral college, including the votes
of Louisiana and Mississippi, it is not at all
certain that the Republican party would accept the
result. With any plausible ground for 1t, however
slight, the Republicans would demand that the
votes of those States be excluded in the count and
with Republican Senate under the present rnles
they would have the power to enforce that demand
"Who can tell" added the gentleman who adj
vanced this theory, what would be the r,sult
civil wars have arisen slighter provocation but
all this danger would be avoided" he continued.
"by the nomination Of Judge Davis he would
carry Illinois, and possibly Indiana and
Ohio indeed, there arc the best reasons
for believing that he could beat Gov. Hayes
IN Ohio, provided the Democratic platform is
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