The New Orleans Democrat., 1876-04-30

responsibility Tor IL, uioht WihV to KNOW any
o. There was nothing burned2 A. ! saw. Of
course tho destruction Of some kind Ut pnper:
supposed It must be paper. from the residue of
tbe burning. / believe 1t was paper. | could
not swear II was. ! would not swear, either. To
anything of the kind. -,
Gates, or anything .ofrered2 A. | saw no bonds
/ saw some kind Of papers. they called vouchers
or something Of the kind ! supposed hn them to to
folded them. SAYING tha, Mr, Baldwin d didn't T.,
any action / didn't want to take any either
When got ack, they said they had destroyed
them Now. sometime after that the board here
in this city approved IT. 49,,
d. Did 4 eutenant Governor Antoine say-did
the two say they had burned them? a; Yes. sir
Sometime after we got back in the city they called
our report up. | think the minutes will snow
II. II was approved by the board-the whoie
" 8. i;y tho whole board2 A. Yes. sir. If | mis-
take not ! think that Is the eorracf language
that the whole board approved OF IT :,
q Approved Of what was done In New YORK
A. Yes sir.
bne rns1e ons IN wefe New '9s 9ork g0 % Y"s only "e
o. How could they approve II a. dont
know, but know that's what they did; nobody
o. You approved Il yourself A. No. sir. dId
not approve 1t. was not present
TO this emphatic, positive and un-
doubted1y truthful testimony of Messrs.
Phelps and Deslonde to "a funding in
New York and subsequent ratification
OF it by the Board in New Orleans, Lev
us add that Of Mr.. Chas. w. Lowell, ex-
Postmaster of New Orleans, and as
Speaker of the House of Representa-
tives at that time. an eX ofIicio member
Of the Funding Board, and see how
their statements tally. Mr.. Lowell is
said, by those who know him, to be the
most candid and truthful of all the Rad
ical chiefs in New Orleans, when his in
terest does not conflict. AS to this par
ticular testimony, however, we think it
lowance
@. W. Lowell. sworn and examined by Mr..
.. Wc are examining into the amount and
manner in which certain warrants or bonds
were funded in New York. VIII you please
state to the committee first the amount2 A
That would appear upon the record. / cannot
remember now what 1t was but it u upon the
member exactly without examining the record.
By Mr.. Baylry:
don remember OF there being record. We
hav" not seen Il ii there IS.
BY Mr. Aldige:
y. How many members wore present ut the
time that fandtng took place in New York A.
At irst there were four present.
o. Was that 4 quorum? a. Yes. sir. Four
members wcrqa quorum Afterwards Mf. Bald
win retired then there were three LETT.
q. Was there any funding done while Mr..
BALDWIN was present. A. No. sir.
QADo You know why Mr.. Baldwin lelt2 A.
H. said he was obliged 10 leave. He stated.
think that he would be compelled to leave on
o. When YOU came back here. Colonel. did you
give ii detailed statement Of the warrants. or
bonds or vouchers, that had been funded in
New York? A. did. sir. aad put the statement
in the hands Of the Board of Audit.
O. is that statement in the Office of the Secre
tnry Of State? Are the minutes Of the funding
in the Secretary Of states Office? A. think II
is. If II is not, can furnish You q detailed
q. You say that statement is now in the hands
Of the Board of Audit2 We have not been able
no reason in the world why you should not get
the statement. / have memorandum myself.
which | can furnish you. gentlemen. If you 80
desire.
o. We would be obliged IL you would do So
A. / have memorandum, rs said. It contains
an exact description of every bond that was
funded.
O. Do you remember how much was funded in
New York? A. No. sir. do not reeollect the
exact hgures. Tha, was published. however. |
isdcd the published report was correct
o. What was done with the warrants, etc. that
were funded Do you know what was done with
theml A. do. sir.
G. What was done with them? A. They were
destroyed.
examine these warrants that were
funded in New York A. We did. sir.
o. Are you positive that all the warrants that
were 10 bo passed to the Funding Board were in
the hands of the committee A. ] know they
were: | saw them myself
Q. You don't remember the amount that was
funded then. in New York. do you2 A. No. sir
! do not. but the amount was published in the
report; / believe that report was correct.
o. When was that report published? A. Well
i was published in the newspapers several
times.
= What vas the amount that was funded A.
Well | do not recollect exactly the amount
think il was eilher sl10000 $3.50 900 or 500 000 !
cannot give the amounts exactly; it has escaped
my memory. As ! said before. have memo
nsh the committee if they desire to have it.
would state that there were some other papers
in the hands of the committee. Among the war
rants that were funded. were included IA $133 600.
q Pinckney Smith vouchers or warrants were
Included in that amount? A. Yes. sir. Pinck-
ney Smith and printing vouchers.
O. We would like very much. Colonel. il you
viii state t. the committee whether or not you
saw the warrants that were funded in New y rk.
destroyed A. They were, all destroyed; saw
them burned myself. and signed the process
verbal.
O. Was there any oppos ton raised on the part
of members OF the committee to the funding Of
those warrants? A. No sir not at all ti'ne
had the sanction of the Attorney
General, or rather, that of the Assistant Attor
ney General.
o. Who was that A. Henry c. Dibble The
committee had his written opinion.
After Mr. Lowell, we introduce the
testimony of G. G. Antoine, Lieutenant
Governor, as to the funding of certain
claims in New York, and subsequent
ratification of it by the board in New
Orleans:
C. Z. Antoine Being sworn and examined by
Mr.. Bayley.
O. Governor. we would like to ask if you were
in rew York at the time of the purported fund
ing there? A. Yes sir.
.. We're any of the obligations of the State
funded at that time; do you consider that they
were funded? A. / considered that they were;
there was u majority of the committee there Mr.
Baldwin came but he left. There We're other
propositions, some Of which We're rejected. The
committee would have nothing to do with it,
The obligations We're funded by special COM
mittee. and entered on the books of the board
here.
q. Who We're present when that funding was
agreed to tberet A. Col. Lowell, Mr.. Deslonde
and myself
Y. Did you see. at that time. what was sub
mitted for funding? You personally saw it? A.
All those that were there, at least they were all
in bundle. warrants and vouchers
q. Do you remember the amount? A. No. |