New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-30
O. At this interview. then nothing of this kind oc-
curr edi A. No. Sir.
MR.. TILTONS PROPOSED STATEMENT ToR
THE COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE.
O. Now, subsequently,, an interview has been
drawn into evidence which something was said abont
report and report draft Of report was present. do
you remember such an occasont A. | do.
q. Yes. when that A. The report was presented
by Mr. Titon on the morning Of the 9th of July had
the morning OF the sth. after the interview
in the evening think, butt certainty saw him ON the
morning oi the 9TH when he had what is known on TINS
trial As the Long Report" present.
Mr. Evarts-What is the nImbcr OF that exhibit, MT
shearmani
Mr. Shcarman-"D ID. A."
Mr. Evarts handing paper To witnessl-Just look at
this Exhibit D. 45"look al that paper Mr. Tracy SUI
ceny ascertain IL that ia the paper that was made
the subject OF conversation that night. A. did not
have this paper In my hands that morning; heard
Mr.. Ton read H. and have heard IL read on the trial.
and have read part OF II myself He read paper
that morning in my presence which was TO the tenor and
effect OF this paper but cannot identity the manuscript
nor can say that-afIirm OF my own knowlcdgc-that
this is in all respects the paper that he ad there have
reason TO doubt that IL is
O. Well, he did read through papcrl A. lie did read
through a paper, Of about this tenor and effect.
Q. And IL was considered aud talked about between
youi A. Yes Sir.
O. And so far as you recall that paper and exam
inc this You suppose that this is the pareri ~ sup
pose that this ia the paper.
q. Was Mr.. Moulton present at this conveTsatlonI
Mr.. Moultoni he there.
@. You three were togetheri A. We were,
O. Now, will YOU that conversation and how this
report figured in III A. II saw Mr. Tlton on the sth OF
July then learned the fact OF his having gone home on
the night OF the 9TH him. and seeing his wife; II
did him the sh then the following CONVERSE
ton occurred the 9th am not absolutely positive OF
having him the 9Th of July but think did on
that morning; think saw him two mornings In sue
cesson but Of that would not he positive, but at one or
both Of these conversations he said that he had gone homo
fl,ar Ia1s haI
called her up had kissed her. and said her that he had
Tracy and had learned from him tho details OF
her statement before the Committee; that he had ex'
pressed himself rcconcilcd that statement and that
the morning they and talked over the matter
and consulted in regard report which should he made
by the Committee which should settle this matter and
end this scandal; he said his wife was very happy over
the result he said that he and his wife had down and
prepared this document with which she would be
satisfied and ho would be satisfied he read over to me-
he read the report Ia and after listening TO It, said
to him. "Why Mr. Tton there many things stated In
that report that Of course tho Committee could not,
under any circumstances say He said he was aware OF
that; that he had only prepared It "a suggestion OF
what could be done Ike did not expect tho Committee
to adopt this report he had drawn it ltersy he had
brought 10 down for suggestion and to see what was
thought Of IT, said TO him that ii step in tho
right direction; that discovered by IL that he and MT
Beccher had substantially agreed the oGensc that was
considered the pivot which the whole case turned
thaf they agreed that, there difficulty, a.
seemed TO me, in their making statement which would
authorize the Committee, and justify the Committee
in stating this case substantially ~ no covered
this point OF 1t in the report and he asked mo II tho
Committee would make that report; said OF course
they won't make IT, unless there Is evidence given before
them that requires them to make 1t the Committee are
not going to adopt this report at your suggestion, Mr.
Tlton without any evidences but the parties have got TO
come before the Committee and state facts and IT, in the
statement OF facts that statement warrants report OF
this description have doubt that they will make It,
O. Was anything said by Mr.. Tlton as to whether he
was ready or willing give tho facts according TO that
ropOrtl A. 7 certainly understood Mr. Tilton, that
that was the agreement between himself and his wife
| which they had arrived at.
| O. Well was that all that said about this report
A. That substantially AL that was said about TIM
report.
O was the report taken away by him-that is, did yo'
take 1t awayi A. Well, didn't take it; IT was eitLe
| kept by him or by Mr.. Moulton.
O. believe you have said it was never in your hands
A. II was never in my hands before.
Mr. shearman (suiting the action to the wordl-I vii
| take il GU OF your hands now.
O. Mr.. Mouton has stated in regard 10 TINS interview
| this. Mr.. Fullerton says: lReading
am now trying to prove what Mr.. Tton said at th'
time " the actual handing OF that paper to MI houto
We made objection that Mr.. Beecher wac not preS,L 1t
| Then the witness says: lReading1
Mr. Tracy was party IL THAT ia. 10 the interview
| ami he said he represented Mr.. Beocher
Did anything Of that kind occur Oh your part at tina
interview A. never said represented Mr.. Beecher
any occasion, at any time in the sense OF being SUD
stitutc for him. said that. claimed to repro
sent Mr. Boocher in any sense, except as friend whose
judgment he would he likely to rely to greater or less
extent That was understood by Mr. Moulton always
| and by Mr. Tilton never said anything else
| Mr. Bcach-wait one moment move to strike ina.
out, Sir that that understood by MI Moui'on anu
! by Mr. Tilton.
| Judge Neilson-Yes ,.,
| NJ, r,orts-w.u they had n great many understand
r Ar this interview did you say that you represented
! Mr. Beecher in any wayi A. Idon tieh''np' '"'' ~
such thing was said talked OF at that h'er'Io"' m
| n This interview had been Sought NY ''' r.,
s,x, A Yes Sir; was requested to come arounu '""'
morning 10 ,hs ruling which
soems TO be pretty if not entirely ~
nronositlon IReading from mcmorahuuinJ .,
Mt Triton haHa ien That deiendent never denied me
cminal intercourse added; WhenGvedT ~ e nm alone
9 W tst the motion strike out as not a.
stating general result MS Ss shond be Denied
so yelson-Tho witness did say what was SAID III
that case ,,. ,o,oror no snote NJ
II he always said 50 and that is, giving the result
ht NOT the words OF special occurrence Now, the I'M
d,standing whatever il was, was produceu is"pPoe'
necessarily by the conversations on the subject.
Judge Neilson-Yes.
Mr. Eyarts-And will ask Gen. Tracy this question
then ITO the witness Mr. Tracy in reference 10 ths
subject representing Mt Beeeher during any Oh ese
interviews that you have spoken Of or any interviews
with either of these gentlemen, did you say to them that
YOU represented Mr.. Beeeher in the interview A No,
Sir.
O. Was there ever made to you any claim or sng-
eeston on the part Of Mr. MoutOn or Mr. Tlton that