New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-08-23

70 lodge or 1920 altogether there nave o sea
supplies the wage TRAINS Ss mere
and some at the Cheyenne remembered seeing pork
issued last Fall it the first pork ever issued and the
as amy ever issued was good pork the second
lot a' o mot Se IT se Sad Sna d
Of the hog; loads could have been been
was issued ratons just they now issue beef ne was
that at one period last Winter there was con-
plies there was nothing like starvation, however they
were out Of -four, coffee and sugar but they had beef
the issue Of beef on Nov. IL he remembered two
issues OF rather thin cattle during the severe cold
the sa' indians ms sold flour to the teamsters and
Tho sp nasn 20 Sf
ent at the weighing but did not exercise any supervi
in joking manner if MI Gibbons weighing the cat,
tie right; the distribution OF annuity blankets was OF
as many blankets OF annues issued last year as during
the year before he could not remember the n4mpel o,
from one 10 points did not remember the proportion
of sizes but believed that there Mere more large than
savle was thief but had heard specific charge
made against him Indians would call any white man ana
thief who had business with them he understood that
the word thief was expression of general disappro
baton he thought that the word thief was applied
when the rations little short In this case tne
agents would issue half ratons make them sronnd
the teamsters could buy -four cheaper at Red Cloud
take away loads of this -four and had been informed that
they had taken away many more these were McGahns
traders bought flour, and had never heard that they
bought any this flour vas sold BY the nY a aes
the d knew for Tea feed or HI
away Of -four by Randall about 900 sacks of this -four
thus has by OF to
good the second lot was bad looked bad and net
the remainder away; white people would probably have
much of it, they knew better how TO COOK II; tne
Indians ana wsaa the lot unit
for even Indians to eat; the Indians did not throw
a SeTy sa any all Of Of the second lot was rotten
cattle were weighed at the corrals where there were
cattle come from one corral and after weighing go out
into the other the chief clerk weighs them but does not
smaller cattle were mixed witness fair judge of
the weight of beef cattle there were seldom less than
Texas cattle Ga
vi %as employed by the agent and receives and
salary compensation for services as interpreter;
the Cheyenne % o, % family
drew ratons from the agency; the Indians VII
Thought that they had reason the coffee received by
witnesses family in 1873 was INFERIOR az IL had many
coffee issued in is74 and is75 was sometimes better and
sometimes than the sample shown but as general
grube coffee they wanted white sugar instead
Of brown for their coffee they saw that the whites used
paid by the Government through Dr. ssvle witness
got his appointment from Dr. sayle; the doctor wrote
TO Washington and got the appointment for him; Wit
knew Dr. SaviLe in Denver CITY, Colorado years
ago.
TESTIMONY OF OLIVER APPLETON.
Oliver Appleton nephew Of DR.. Save. said that he
was employed a herder at the agency last Winter
did not remember number the circumstance Of the
inspection eight head Of cattle by military officers last
Fall; as a rule the cattle last Fall were very good
yearlings did not often get into herd; calves would
often get in, but yearlings seldom; they were
IoI 1Ynn rtadO M
the weight Of cattle; had cattle on
the scales but never knew how much they weighed
never knew Of cattle being averaged in weight at the
agency lie did not remember Prof Marshs inspection OF
the CATTLE in company with some military gentlemen
witness about the agency last Fall and WINTER ana
saw issues OF supplies and annuity GOODS remembered
some pork which issued to the Indians was good
pork. only 1t not the kind the Indians desired; It
prime" instead Of "mess; witness was not pres
when Gen. Bradley and other officers inspected and
estimated the weight Of cattle.
TESTIMONY BENJAMIN TIBBITs.
BENJAMIN Tbbits butcher OF the Agency, testified that
he came to the present Red Cloud Agency when IL was
moved from the old in August 1873 he had been
present when every lot Of cattle received during the
past two years was Red Cloud last Fall there were
more steers than COWS In the herd; at one time
there were a good many yearlings in the
herd; there might have been 20 head
Of yearlings in the herd at time;
the cattle received last Fall and Winter would average
900 pounds each, and probably more in counting the
cattle, never counted yearngs or calves; very few
calves were weighed, the Indians generally killed
them on the scales the yearngs would get into the
scales but counted the Indians would some
times grumbe about their beef because it was not fat
enough; they often grumbed about other supplies; 1t
m m,sn Ae any bad coffee on the agency ex-
S in Removing from the old agency Daniel:
Agent the sugar furnished was good some IN
the storms, which delayed the wagon trains; had
weighed nearly all the beef until the scales were erected
$50 pounds probably sometimes there were very fine
cattle received and again they were not quite as heavy
good steer OF $50 pounds would net $50 to 500 pounds
Of meat ordinary cows would dress about 400 pounds
in dressing Texas cattle oneha The weight was allowed
for Ofa horns ETC.; could not tell the weight OF dee;
witness helped in the warehouse and helped handle the
blankets issued the Indans did not count the annuity
blankets In November last but believed that there were
80 or 40 bales issued.
With view to eciting special information on the sub
ect OF the beef received Commissioner Harris sharply
pushed this witness for evidence After going over the
field quietly Mr. Harris examined him as follows:
O. As understand you, these two corrals are as one
was out way and one out the other way with gate
at both ends and the platform OF the scales between az
G. The cattle driven on the PLATFORM and the scales
are e1 the man who Weighs them in no condition to
say what he has got on the platform A. NO. sr
O. He would not know whether he mad steers yearhngs
or calves upon the scales A. No. Sir
q. He takes the weight and your business is 10 let
them out and give him the number A. Yes, Sr
O. Therefore IN every instance where yearings were
put the scales and weighed you have mentioned,
the wegher don't know Ii A. No. Sir he didn't know
it there might be yearng on and he would not know
it. =.
o. But you did not count 1t A. No, Sir.
d So that while the number don't appear the weight
Q. Do You know any earthly way that the weigher
would know how many had passed on his scales A. No,
Sir. -.
went through those scales and weighed reckoned as
weight but did not reckon as head OF cattef A dom
think they counted At all
O. So that the yearngs helped to increase the average
weight Of the cattei A. Yes, SIR.
o. And so far as you know, they went to fill the con.
tract recurring many hundred thousand pounds OF