The Portland daily press., 1875-04-03

first part was used, for he was after reconcilla-
ton and harmony. don't remember the lat,
ter part; l didn say to him my defence w9 9,t
be technical one of general denial didn't
say. ''Slnce you know'the truth 1 will throw
myself on what believe to be YOUR desire to
save me- AT this interview there was no talk
of my relations with, Mrs. Tilton. don IT re-
collect that anything was said about the love !
had for Mrs. T. or which she had for me. did
not say anything about being on the brink OF a
moral Niagara. L think used no such express
sion. 1t was business meeting. / didn't say
had no power TO to save myself, and called on
nothing Of the kind. Towards the close he
said something of his power to make Tilton
amenabe to reason, and may have said that L
would be glad of his services. l didn't say to
him, "My love for Mrs; I. was. as natural as
the expression OF it. and was justified by our our
through love-" or that Sexual expression of
my love for her was as natural as to love" or
that ''If had fallen it was through love, not
through lust" Moulton did not say to me,
ssYou had criminal connection with Mrs Til
ton, and you go down to get the paper. see
how you could do two such acts.'' Mr.. Moul-
ton was no fool.
O-On that night was there any imputation
by Moulton that you had criminal connection
with Mrs. T?
Question objected 10
MIR. Evarts-I want to negative every form
of imputation and leave no room for the asser-
ton that it was not done.
Mr.. Beach objected; that it would appear by
what was on record already. This called for
the Judgment of the witness
Judge-He may answer the question.
Witness-There was no such imputation, in
situation or implication, and nothing was said
by him or me on that subj ct. Applause, and
Que of the men in the gallery was removed for
clapDing hands.)
Moulton Describes TiIton's Feelings
1t was Sunday. about 3 p. m. of January LIST
that Mouiton came to my study. He intro
Guced the subject of the effect of the last
nights conduct by me. He said it was sautary
and TiltOn received it kindly. 1 was sitting
and walking in the study by turns. I can't
give the interview exactly in order. l think
that Meulton made some allusion, after refer
ring to my returning the retraction, to tTiIon's
exasperated feeling, and spoke of the great
trouble that had come on him by the treachery
and misconduct of Bowen, and that it was not
10 human nature for man to lose his llvell-
hood and reputation without being angered,
and that it was natural that it should be ex-
tended so me if he believed L had part in it. [
said l felt had some part in ID; had had time
to reflect and was ready to apologize.
MOuitOn Denies the stories Against
Tilt0n.
MoultOn said Bowen dismissed Tilton on
false accusations, and he (MoultOn) could prove
many of them to be lies Mr.. MoultOn asked
gave him the substance of 1T. l told him
Bowen carried it casually as an act of kindness
to Tilton. Then Moulton told me that Bowen
had part in making up the letter, and prom
ised to back it up. He asked me what Bowen
said against Tilton, and l told him he found
Tilton's opinions such that he had to remove
him to a subordinate position, and that he had
no sooner done SO than the stories, shocking
ones, came pouring In, and l related to Bowen
the stories of Bessie Turner and what occurred
at my interview with Mrs. L. and her mother
MoutOn told me that of his own knowledge he
knew many of these stories to be false, and
said that he believed TIlton to be absolutely
chaste and faithful to his marriage obligations.
l replied to him that if there was anything in
the world l hated and and abhorred, it was
SANDER. and that the worst of it was, L was
caught in the sum of them, believed these
stories and circulated them. (Here Beecher' s
voice trembed.
Beecher Blames himself for TiltOn's
MisfOrtunes.
l said that when was in trouble that was
not how Tilton acted, but came to my aid at
once, and just when he was in trouble L took
sides against him. L said if Mrs. Tilton trans
ferred her affections to me in consequence of
my presence, was not fundamentally, and
that her moral nature must have been broken
down, and there was pltlable breaking up OF
a household, and must have been to blame.
This was the first time | gave vent to my feel
ings. l walked about the room in great agita-
ton. l said L alw ,ys supposed my visits were
giving strength to the family and were bene-
fetal to the children and Tilton, and that this
came on like a thunder-clap. Moulton said,
ooh, she loves you better than Tiltont' l felt
as any gentleman must. l was an older man,
and if the tendrils of her affections were grow
ing up around NE, ought to have known itOr
expressed myself to that effect, and that L
could not understand two images of woman,
making such charge against me, and taking
it back it was acting like one bereft of reason.
protested that L had done him no Intentional
injury in his business relations, and did not
take advantage of my position against him.
Tilton was not more severe against me than /
was to myself
The Famous Apology.
Mouton said that if Titon heard what
said all would be we'll. He asked me to write
to him. / said I would but my head was in a
whirl and declined, and he said ''Let me
write" He made memorandum and said Il
will tell Tilton so and so' and then lie would
say what about so and SO, and L would tell him
and he would put it down on the memoran-
dunn. Then the bell .rung for supper and he
put the sheets together and said Sign thIs' I
said mo | can't sign what didn't write He
said that it would would have better effect if
paper put "Given to Il. D. Moulton in conf
dence." Then just as it was gas lighting time
he gathered up the papers and departed. This
memorandum was not read by or to me or any
part of it, l next saw this memorandum at the
trial here. The next time L saw what purported
to be a part copy of it was in the Bacon letter.
L never saw what purpOrted to be a full text OF
it until the publications of last summer. Dur
ing the day of that interview last spoken Of
MoulUon spoke of Tilton as man of great
ability and reputation and standing among the
highest in the land who had by the misconduct
of Bowen been hurled from one of the proud
est positions in the land, and that his reputa-
ton and means of livelihood were gone, his
means cut off and no prospect for him but to
rebuild, for the accustomed channels were cut
off, and that Tilton had no home to fall back
on, and be described the position of Tilton's
family and his little children.
MOuIt0n Reproyes Beecher for his Exu.
berance.
On several occasions Moulton said that L was
putting it too strong; that the matter wasn't
so bad as l made it against myself and that
with care the family could be repaired 1t was
not condemnatory interview but sympa-
thetc one on his part and he made no charges
against me. He said the object of the inter-
view was reconciliation between Tllton and
me, such as would ccniuce to the peace OF
a family aud the restoration of Tilton to his
good name and prosper ity. He spoke of Bes-
sic Turner's charges and said it was harmless
thing that only she was child she would not
say it, and that others told her and she named
Mrs. Morse. L said in relation to the stories
about Tllton L would get Bowen to recall them
letter to Bowen withd rawing the stories against
Titon was idsntified.)
MOultOn Promises to Burn the Apology.
Witness-Before Moulton went off with
memorandum he said, treating it as memo
randum to be read, that after he had read 1T he
would burn it or return it to me- 1t was to
remove from rs mind that impression that L
was Indifferent to his welfare and inimical to
him. He said he wished to make memoran-
dunn of my feeling towards L. as he then per-
ceived them. He suggested l should write, but
l declined and he said he would make memo
randum. 1t was mid-winter L only know the
hour of the fact that my tea bell rang. Moth
ing else was said think about the use or pres
ervation of that paper beyond what have
stated
No IntimafiOn of Crime made by MOuifon
During that interview the word ''crime" was
not used either by Moulton or myself in refer
ence to any conduct of mine. Nothing that L
remember was said either by Moulton or me in
reference to any separation that was made for
any wrongs or misfortune in Us family other
wise than as L have expressed it. | didn't say
to Moulton that Elizabeth TIlton sent for me
and told relations were wrong. L
didn't tell him if she said so they would be ter.
minated. l did not say that then prayed
with her to discontinue eur sexual relations. L
told him when L went to see her it was all
mental trouble and that prayed with her and
no such thing whatsoever in any manner or
shape was said to Moulton or to any other hu-
man being.
The court adjourned
Rev. DR.. Cummings of the Wesleyan Univer-
city at Middleton, Ct, was in court to-day.