The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-11


who love the Church to stand up In its defence,
but think they should be a little better tempe ed
Church. according to their own showing, Is great
nationallnsttutiOn. We are no inconslderable por-
cuss It. We nave no intention Of doing anytning
Dy violence: Our proposition Is that all thought
Jul people should consider TINS subject, ana II they
ton OF Rome-lf they think 1t Is great, SOUND.
Protestant lnsututon-il they believe it makes the
State and the people religious. then let them
preserve the church; but II they come
to different conclusion surely the people
Whatever cnanGs tSsy think PROPER. cheers
The Church Defence Association reminds
which Birmingham was connected. There was
meeting OF licensed victuallers In Stafford. and
say 50, Tor have often had the pleasure OF meet
ing him on deputations-Mr. Wadhams was the
n ri, a9s e same T as
Lord Dartmouth and his friends take-they are
bad rDss sy rather @
which is probably the next assault-tnat public
houses should be closed on Sundays. Every sens.
BILE man knows and many publicaps know that
the persons who would be the most benefited
be the publicans and their families (Cheers.)
But Lord Dartmouth and his friends, and
possession Of monopoIy-the one " 10 teach S
US morals and religion, about which they
the undsputsd and the almost uncontrolled right
OF dispensing 70 the people as much as they like
OF tnOSo articles, WntCn nave described before,
which promote disorder and crime and madness
to great extent.
AN APPEAL TO CHRISTIANS
am not assailing the Church. admit that
much may be said IN Its favor. have admitted.
and assert, that there are thousands OF excellent
England as ministers OF that Church but then
there would be thousands OF excellent men If 1t
whom would do just as much good II he were
member and clergyman OF Free Church as he
can 40 IN ms present condition In connection with
~. n n RI thiaV loAt
ing, or ,, any consltnsncy, that tney should
ton Of the Established Church. | do not, IN
the least degree, recommend or approve that any
body OF men should complain that a parliamentary
same opinion that l have upon this question. 1t
is question winch has not come near tnat point
people have ever had TO cOnsfter. 1t is far more
important question than the question OF tree trade
the question OF The extension OF the franchise or
the redistribution OF seats. (Cheers.) 1t Is a
hundreds and thousands and millions Of good men
and women In this country, and you cannot BY
you nave to do Is to discuss it with fairness
fairness to the Church and fairness to It's minis
ters-and that the sole object OF dong what you
believe to be good to your country and
to the religion which the country processes.
! have said nothing tonight about the point
to which our chairman relerred-the condition OF
the liberal party. Applause) The result OF my
more than thirty years. experience Is that po-
when 1t Is wanted, ana Ivy the time that it is
wanted-("Hear hearP')-and therefore | shall
not go into discussion of tue present position Of
the liberal party, conscious, as l am. that at
least we OF that party have succeeded so lar In
implantlng Wise and just seeds-seeds Of wise and
just policy and just measures III the minds OF the
people OF Engand-tnat believe there is no other
party in the country who can reverse the udg-
ments to which you have come have said moth
Ing, and it Is not my intention to say more than
ono sentence with regard to o fact which has
startled and PANIED many throughout the king.
to the abandonment by Mr.. Gladstone
liberal party. They who have seen HIM
Of commons. as havsWtney VINO have sat H Wiss
him and seen him in the counsels Of the Cabinet
tude OF the loss which the party IN the House OF
Commons and the country have sustained by his
withdrawal lApplause.) Will say nothing IN
said and done-(''Hear. hearp')-but OF this am
well aware-Mr. Gladstone, ike an ola and noble
OF his Country, even though some Of his country
men should deny them 10 him. Now, sir, IN con-
clusion, say am not asking you or your constlt-
plunge into violent agitation for the overthrow
OF the establishment OF the Church OF England. 1
1t yr weqd an6 Ss great calamity indeed
by violent hatred and dissension, and should be
accomplished IN tempest which 10 almost like the
consider it-and appeal not 10 you who may be
nonconormists, who 90 not care about the
Churcn.Dut appeal TO- those who do care about
1t is not for me 10 lead or to JOIN you IN any cru
SADIE against the Church. have offered to you to-
night my hOmely contribution to the discussion OF
the greatest question OF our time. ('Hear hearty
II am able to form any just Judgment upon 1t 1
should say that 1t will be great day for freedom
Christianity which shall witness the luil eniran-
cnisement OF the Church within the realm of Eng.
land. (Applause.)
The right honorable gentleman then resumed
his seat amid loud cneers. having spoken from ten
minutes to eight till five minutes past nine