New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-24
MR.. CLEvELANDs COMMISSION TO boston
Henry NJ Cleveland recalled, and the cross


examination resumed -, TIA, N Won
ac.,p Handing witness O paper WIZ W" ''"
near a. YOU can when you gave that 10 inc navy
s.I n,on the other side Z A Within week. 'hinA'
O. Where was it that you gaveit to them' A. !" NY
room.
q AtNo IA A. No ia Remsen-st
n And m which OF the counsel did you hand III A.
To Mr.. Sherman. - l..
Mr. Morris ito the juryl-Itis the paper that vac IN
troduced yesterday
Mr. Beacb-The power" from Mt Beecher
~, Morris--Can YOU tell the day that it vasi A.
don't recollect the day.
q When did YOU return from Connecticut A. On
Thursday.
O. Thursday Of A OF last week
O. And was 1t during auy day last week tha' w" s"e
IL IN Mr. shearmani A. since Thursday OF last week
O Then IL was this week : A. don't recouecI
o orwas it during last weeki A. don't recoIleet
the day it was since Thursday of last week.
O. Who spoke about it first A. did
n what did YOU say to Mr. shearman about il A.
said that had such paper in my possession
O. And you gave It TO hint A. l did.
O Let me call your attention to your testihon! !ee'
day with reference TO this paper
O Have you got the power have you eot the II"
per referring 10 this paperli A. don K {. Wv
O. Where is it, A. don't know where IL Is
Was that true A. That was true.
O YU did not know where IL was; what DO you mean
nv that please explain. A. l meant that did ho'
know now where il was when I testified gave IL 10
Mr. Sherman q week ago
But Won recollected the fact that you had gwen II 10
Mr. Shearnanf A. did.
@ WHY didn't you state that factf A doht kho"
any reason why did not $4,000
O Howl A. / don't know any reason why did ho@
q And Won supposed when you said you didn't know
where n was that MI Sherman had it. did youi A
didn't know. ",
O You had given il to him few days agoi A. hSi'
O When YOU were asked the question where the paper
was you knew the object OF the question: dd you ho''
A. did not.
O Didn't You understand the object, that desired TO
ascertan where il vast A. | didn't know what subse-
auent questions were coming.
o No. but the questions that did ask you; asked
Won where the paper was, and you said, don KNOW"
lReadiDgi:
O. Have you got the power-have you got the paper
O. Where is iii A. ] don't know where IT is.
Didn't you suppose asked that question for the purpose
OF ascertaining where the paper vast
Mr. shearman-I submit your Honor that II If not nee
essary TO 90 into oil this standing up at the very
time trying 10 interrupt Judge Morris and trying to
catch his attention. with the paper in my hands The
witness did not know whether had the paper or not
Mr. Morris-That is the point. Didn't you suppose
by that question that wanted to know where the paper
was to ascertain that facti A. will answer that IN
this way that gave the paper TO Mr. shearman after
I returned from
O. No, no. A. supposed that when IT was proper to
introduce that paper 1t would be introduced that was
my superstition.
O. And that the that you answered that you
did not know where IT was, A. That was my reason
O. Very well, we will let that pass. Now, Mr.. Cleve
land do you recOec the date that you went TO Boston
from the White Mountainsi A. do.
@. What day it'll A. Fourth OF November.
MI Shearuan-September, you mean.
The Witness-SeptembeF, Imea1, 1874.
MI MOrrisAnd prior TO that the Committee had made
its report, had they mott A. 1t had.
O. DO YOU recoect the date of that report A. The
2sth Of August, think.
Q. Mr. MoultOn had made his first long statement had
he noti A. think SO could not swear 10 that
O Don't you that it had been published before
the Committee made its reporti A. think so.
O. Have you any doubt upon that questions A. don't
recall the date I have really no doubt
O. Well as whether you that publ cation before
the Committee made its report A unquestionaoy
did.
@ How A. 7 did. I don't recOllect the date Of that
publication. / think it before the Committee re-
ported.
O. Before going TO Boston, you had heard that second
statement from Mr. MoultOn had been prepared
in course of preparation. had you mott A. l had
O. And that had been a matter Of conference-conver
saOn between You and Mr. Beecher before you left the
White Mountains A think
O. you had heard something Of the contents ofhat
report had you notsomething Of Its nature and char
actert
Mr.. Shearman-The reporti
MT Morris-Of the statement that Mr.. Moulton had
prepared-the second statement.
The Wtness-I heard that II TO be assault upon
Mr.. Beecher.
O. You had learned generally its purport 2 A. knew
nothing of its details
Q. Oh, You had learned that Mr. MoultOn purposed
indicating himself in that report against the charge Of
blaclunail, had you nOt' A. had heard that he
going TO make another long statement
q. Did you not understand that that long statement
was to be vindcation Of Mr. MoultOn, and especially
against the charge of blackmaili A. suppose that
statement would cover all the points of Mr. Moultons
defense.
q Now you stated yesterday that you went to Boston
solely with reference Mr. Moultons connection With
this matter.
M. BesaA-Not solely, he didn't say.
Mr.. M0rris-wel with reference Mr.. Moulton's con
necion with the matter. Now was that the statement
that he had preparedwas that thu purposei A. meant
10 say mean TO that understand elegraphc
correspondence stated TO by Mr.. Beecher that Mr.
Rsdpsth desred Mr. Beecher Boston TO confer
with him and other parties In regard NJ Moultons
statement
Mr. Besch-PrOposed statement
Mr.. Moriis-Proposed statement.
The Witness-Proposed statement.
And the ultimate object had in view was to preyeu,
the publication OF that statement, was mott A. Itwss
not
q Your visit 10 Boston, do you mean TO say had M
reference 10 making which would super
sede the necessity Of publishing that statement I
mean TO say---
Mr.. Beach-No; make him answer
Mr. Morris snow, answer that question.
Mr. Shenandoah question cannot be answered BY
yes or no, IL your Honor please.
Mr.. Morris-Wln the stenographer read the question
please The Tribune senogrspher read the question r.
follows Your visit to Boston, do you mean To say Asd
no reference TO making arrangement which vould
supersode the necessity Of publishing that satements1