The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-06-02
THE ECCLESIASTICAL POLICY
olive and Let Live" the
Order Of the Day.
THE EFFICACY OF PRAYER.
Exequaturs Of Priests To Be Pre-
sented to the Government
ROME, Nav Q. 1878.

ROME, May Q, 1875.
My telegram Of yesterday evening will have
given you the result of the long and important
debate which closed yesterday, with the vote
foreseen from the first. This has been one OF the
most important well conducted and exhaustive
discussions that has ever taken place In the
Italian Chambers since the old days OF hot debates
anent tho vital question OF 'Going on to Venice
or TO Romew from first to last the orators have
been temperate and have generally spoken TO the
point. The law on papal prerogatives is accepted
as the standing law OF the land, the order OF the
day. The proposition to change That law was
only signed by six members OF the Extreme Left
members who. at the time OF It's presentation,
fought stanchly against II. TIE large majority
OF the Right, Of the Genres ana OF the Lett de-
cared themselves satisfied II the government
would but insist on the strict execution of
the law. The question was Had they done
this or mott Many OF the governments own par
tisans expressed their opinion that the govern
ment has failed in this respect; that 1t has shown
objectionable weakness and lenlency toward the
bishops, who have not compiled with the laws OF
the realm, Indirectly demanding tho ereQuatur
from the State after their nomination by the
Pope. And whereas vtgiiani, Keeper OF the
Seals. denied the accusation, ana Bonghi, Minis
ter OF Public Instruction. talked balderdash about
the eventual triumph OF reason, OF confidence In
progress and civilization, Mnghetti President OF
the Council, did virtually admit the truth or the
accusation by
PROMISING A Primer ATTITUDR
in the future. The important point OF hrs ois-
course was his promise to present O bill for the
regulation OF ecclesiastical property, which, he
said must be accompanied by other bills for the
adjustment OF the question between the higher and
lower clergy lie also expressed the hope that
Of ha 0f
nominate their own priests would be solved;
but In this question he said he thought the gov
eminent had no right to interfere. With the ex.
ception OF Mfceli's Interrogation as 10 whether
Germany mad addressed any note to the Italian
government touching its ecclesiastical policy and
Minghetti's categorical denial that any such note
had been addressed. the debate turned entirely
on the internal policy OF the State with regard to
the Church.
1t results clearly that the House does not de-
mand any radical change In that policy; that to
LIVE AND LET LIVE
Is the accepted order OF the DAY.
IL remains TO be seen what will pa the eject OF
this discussion on the Vatican. The Cdpftale
a1nrms that two Senators went at once TO the
vatican to report tue result OF the VOTE and that
the Pope, turning to three Cardinals who were
present, said, "You see did wen, In my speech
90 the French pilgrims. to say that prayers were
our best arms,r and the Cdpfidte adds 'Tne
Pope has consented that hencelorward all
the bishops shall present the original bull OF their
nomination to the Italian government, In order to
obtain the ereQuat,tr. II this be true-but we by
no means affirm that 1t is so-the chief cause OF
dscord existing at present would lie removed.
Certain 1t is that the Popss discourse to the pill
grims was not as hostile as the telegraph nrst
nounced IL. The substance OF it was, IN fact, TO
exnort the listeners to trust TO the eficacy OF
prayer for the confusion aud dispersion OF the
enemies OF the Church. The following Is
RESUME OF rHE LAST THREE DAYS DIscUssroN:-
The entire sitting OF Thursday vas occupied BY
the speeches OF Tommasi Cruden and Cuerriert
Gonzaga, members OF the Right. the former dwelt
especially on the necessity or the reorganization
or the laws on ecclesiastical property, on
the advisabIlIty OF excluding the clorgy from
popular instruction.; on the wretched con-
dition OF the lower clergy. GuerTieri Gonzaga
admltteJ the immense diniculty OF the question,
praised the Ministry for having accepted tho
pattle; but regretted that he could py no means
praise their ecclesiastical policy. he had been
one OF the opponents oil the laws on guarantees;
still he understood that 10 was necessary ct the
time Of the entry into Rome to prove to Europe
that the exercise Of religious authority had not
been IN anY way disturbed. b. the Vatican had
not seconded Italy's conciiatory policy, and the
government, instead OF tightening the reins had
been cupably lenient 20 the offenders. Here
Gonzaga recounted an episode which certainly
does no c; edit 10 the Ministry. Several parishes
in Mantua had refused the priests appointed Dy
the bishops, and had chosen their own. He, IS
Deputy for Mantua, had asked the minister
whether he would continue their stlpends. The
minister promised that ne would, and did so for
some time. Then, without any rhyme or reason,
save that II gave OFFENCE to the reoellious Bishop
OF Mantua, the stipends we're reduced 20 the min
imum and the priests TO the verge or Starvation.
he suloglzed
GLADsToNE's WORK,
but wished that such eulogy mad come from the
Ministerial benches rather than from the mouth
OF humble Deputy. He approved the law for
subjecting the clergy 10 the consumption; denied
the right OF the bishops who had not received
the eIeqsdtur TO nominate parish priests. He
said tnat the question far more civil than po-
iItical and ought not therefore. to be made party
question, and proposed the following order or the
day:-"The House, determined ~ defend the rights
OF the state guaranteed By the laws OF the 18Th OF
May, 1871, invites the Ministry TO make the pro-
visions defined In the eighteenth article OF the
law, and passee,u &C. This speech was loudly
applauded from the Right and Lett benches.
Aurit defended the application OF the law on
guarantees. IL was necessary to snow TO the
world that the
Pore WAS PERFECTLY FREE.
This has been demonstrated. Europe IL reassured.
The Same policy should be continued. Mancini
retained to the charge, never deviatng from has
assertion that the Ministry mad failed In the apple