The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-16

ever, communicative He said he ha received no
In 3; ON s wSr 80 M
rton was concerned he Ciltonl was out Of hi, mind.
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No.
S ~, mr. Should the scandal on Mr.
Is IT EvIDENCHp
This interview occurred shortly AFTER the para
rapn Tas a Was SeDat ae
yersations; do not remember the date OF either.
Mr.. Snearman gave me the letter OF April TO de-
Judge Fullerton-who was present when you
delivered 1t TO Mr.. nltOnf
paragraph in the Union. 1t Is not paragraph
printed BY Mr.. snearman or anybody else. It Is 2
reporters statement IN the Union. not religious
paper but political paper, secular paper. NOW
what Mr.. Beecher says about that Is good evil
dence, but not what PASSED between Mr. Til.on
and MIR. Mouton and Mr.. Sherman, go as 10 get IL
rightly before tue public; what 1T was complained
Of was improperly reported In the reportory inter-
sna ws Suppose ESSs VIM see the
priety when tell him Mr. Beecner was present
Mr.. Evarts-who was present when you deliv-
cred this letterf Answer-I believe Mr.. Beecher
was; to the best OF my recollection he was; l am
man were present; believe showed the letter
to Mr.. Beecher and then gave 1t to Mr.. rilton.
Mr.. Fullert0n-l Will now read the letter.
sHEARMAN's DENIAL
BROOKLYN April q 1874.
DEAR s!R-Ha wing seen paragraph in ne Brooklyn
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and yourself desire TO assure YOU tina, this report
such a statement
said upon these subjects because am now satisfied that
a %sss snd n the
been %sled me an &C; Of unin
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s $40 % TO as al
the imputed to me as untrue and unjust to all
THEODORE rILroN, ESQ.
outrageous; he said he would write, but do not
know II he did; said to him, "Mr. Beecher. you
know the statement 10 false with regard to rheo-
doie, and you know 1t Is false with regard to EhZ-
abeth Triton; Theodore 1ilton. unless it Is cor
rected. WIZ maze trouble about 1t; 1t Is an out
Sherman At all; don't think ne is above such
matters;" that's what l told Mr. Beecher; Mr..
s H 70 ne uSn It
gave nlm an almost unspeakaole agony, and ne
wept over II; but told him should 60 TO see Mr..
/. had seen MI; sessrnsn s'''s .na so!a
read the paragraph when placed 1t before him
on his desk; told Mr.. Beecher that had subse-
quentv taken Mr. Triton to see Mr.. shearman,
and air. Shearman had made an explanation to
Mir. Tilton which Mr. Tton denounced falses
and saw Mr.. Beecher subsequently and l told
me to give Mr.. Tilton, which Mr.. Tton ref used to
receive on the ground That II contained a lase-
hood. and that unless Mr.. Shearman did write
another letter taking 1t back as 1t should te re-
tracted that he would make trouble aboutlt; but
] told Mr.. Beecher subsequently that Mr. Shear
man had written letter OF retractlOn and had re-.
ceived back from him the letter which he wrote at
first and which Mr.. Tilton had stigmatized as q
1t was his opinion that Snearman was mischief
maker; that was the only interview had with
l recollect the letter known in this controversy
as the Bacon letter; IT. was written IN the year
1874; knew OF the letter the day before its pub
lcaton; l was told OF 1t by Theodore Tilton; the
letter was one written by Mr.. Triton to DR.. Bacon
! was present at an interview in my study at
myself were present; Mr.. Tllton said to Mr..
Beecher that he knew perfectly well tnat he mt.
TtGn was not creature Of his
with Mr.. Beecher, ana that he could not
Beecher 70 set the matter right with DR.. Bacon,
and II he old not he, Theodore Tilton, would
member M that the pst e then
alLerward saw Mr.. Beecher about 1t MIR. BeecheI
said that he did not see what reply he could make
that the case was full OF embarrassment; that Il
he should make reply to DR.. Bacon 1t would be
construed as something like confession; he
the exact language he pleaded his embarrass
ment; his general expression to my mind was
that ne was surrounded with embarrassments tina,
made 1t difficult.
LOVE AMONG THE ROSES.
At twenty minutes past eleven, while Moulton
was giving interesting testimony as to the origin
OF the Bacon letter, q big policeman came through
the crowd with two more bouquets, pinned up liz
yellow paper. 1t seemed to be q tournament O.
Mowers, and the friends Of plaintiff and defendant
were pelting them with roses. General reaction
took place In the minds Of the people against the
nower business, as giving IDe court room q parti
san appearance. MIS- Triton looked at her hus.
bands bouquets with a little rising. color. The
sentiment OF the audience was '.tit for tat"
THE BACON LETTER.
He referred to his own action In regard to his
own family, when he spoke OF his rot being a
creature Of MIR. Beecher's magnanlmity; It had
direct reference to DR.. Bacon's articles, direct
reference with regard to his not being q creature
OF Mr.. Beecher's magnanimity; Mr.. Beecher knew
reply to those articles OF DR.. Bacon; the Bacon
letter was not produced al that interview; 1t was
not produced at any subsequent meeting before
Mr. Beecher; 1t was before me; told Mr.. Beecher
tnat Mr.. Tlton had said to me, n he replied to DR..
Bacon ne would tel the whole truth IN regard to
Mr. Beecher's relations with his family; that
considered tnat would be an outrage. II Theodore
Tnton Old 1t. upon his family; that he ought not
writing Of 1t II l cou.d, and II could not prevent
the writing OF 1t would prevent the publishing
OF It; MIR. Beecher said to me he hoped he could
prevent the writing OF the letter: after that sa
Mr.. Titon and told him that thought he ought
not 70 make any reply to Dr. Bacon-that 1t was
not think the effect OF DR.. Bacon's letters in the
Independent and his speech would nave such an
effect upon MIN In New England as he ex.
pected they would have: I communicated what
] had said 10 Mr.. Tilton TO Mr.. Beecher,
and Mr.. Beecher said he agreed with me, that he
thought It would not have the effect upon Mr..
Triton IN New England that he thought II would (;
that Bacon did not have such extensive influence
as Theodore thought he had then ! saw Mr. I'll
ton alter The letter had been fully prepared; had
not seen him during its pI eparation, and he
said to me, 81 think forgot TO read TO you tbs
| N
should like 10 hear 1t read y SAID to Mr.. Beecher
that had heard the Bacon letter read before It's
publication, that had undertaken to and thought
had succeeded In having taken from that letter
the phrase, He has committed a revolving crme,n
ana having substituted in Its place the TACT that
stead OF That he Xad committed an offence: told
him that that was as much as had been able to do
with Theodore. that Is the substance OF what oc-
CURED: SAID TO Mr. Beecher that mad heard the
BaoAn letter read before It's publication; sue.
ceeued In having taken from that letter, "He mas
committed against my family revolving crime"
and having SUBS tituted The word Offence, - told
Mr. Beecher my reason TOR having substituted the
word "orence;n said that II he stated that ne had
tod n hta fa yAit,