The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-05-12

"A.
ten about the middle Of December, partly, ans
completed from that time onward. toward Christ
mas Day.
u Now, al that interview after stating VIVA
you mad said upon entering the room SIR. Tracy
SAID, "rnereupon Mr.. Tiiton unfolded, as re
had brought with him into the room and began
70 read the statenent;" ala anything OF that KIND
occur IN tnat interview A. 1t did not.
z. DID you hear at that interview the letter o.
contrIlon, as u ID called. spoken OF by Mr.. Moul
ton as mere memorandum OF the conversation
that ne mad with Mr.. Beechert
Tracy's language
notify you tnat ne could or would under certain
CONTINGENCIES, become Mr.. Beecher's counsel or
lee himself AT hberty TO become his eouuseu
Mr.. Evarts-One moment
z. Did Mr.. Moulton, IN your presence, referring
ron,'r ~ @ ~, say, &c ~ nars,,
Mt. Evarts objected and a heightened discus
sion ensued as 20 the admissioliity or the eyi-
uence, before the termination OF wnicn the Court
AFTER RECESS
Mr.. I1ton's examination was resumed by Mr..
Morris at ten minutes past two O'Clock
q. l was asking YOU oe ore recess question re-
gardlng Mr. Tracy's notification 20 you that ne
felt NH self at liberty to act Tor Mr. Beecner.
Will read you The evidence. referring to that IN
tervew, Mr.. kvarts asked, Where aid that IN
tervsw or conversation occur A. | think &c
occurred at the CluDp
4. "Ihe Brooklyn ClubSn A. 'The Brooklyn
Cub; IL may nave been at my office Mr. fton
was IN the naDlt OF dropping into my once re
quentlS, and ne was IN the habit OF dropping into
oTten met him ia tue street; we had casual con
ver,ati0ns."
Mr. Morris again read as follows from Mr..
% Well, wnat passed between you-how was
the matter introducedS A. Re errlng to the con
versaton In 1872 | SAID To him, Mr.. Tllton, as
long as you adhere to tne case that you then
stated 10 me, shall adhere TO the promise made
you but | desire to say to you that wnen you
cnange your case against Mr.. Beecner n you ever
do, and o different from what you stared
70 vnn a. nndInS mon me ny ppa spy
ton OF that KIND ever occur between you and Mr..
Tracy prior TO your meeting before the commtteeS
A. No, Sill ne never gave me any Sucn notlnca-
ton.
q You have related what occurred before the
committee. At the Brooklyn club, or ms ONCE,
or anywhere else. did ne say that prior to that
timer A. Never sir; never anything.
Mr. Morris reads again from the testimony
Q. Mr.. Beecher. IN mis- testimony speaks OF an
interview he mad with you at your house. when he
walked with you from the ferry, al which you read
him statement. lie says 1T was not the True
story that YOU read 70 Ine at that time.n state
what II was that you read. A. read 90 him, SIR,
precisely tue same document when read 70 Mr..
darman Mr.. Bell, Or. storrs and TO otnersj IL
never was called by me the "frue story: ~ other
people nave put the designation upon II.
Q. IL mas come 10 be desgnateu that way 7 A.
Yes, SIR: IL is the paper known IN TINS trla as
the True story" l never read him any otner
Witness went on 70 ADA portion or an imper
feet copy this paper has been put IN evidence
here; | read no oLher portion 10 him the first
sentence o. the state nent known as Tne storrs
Statement letter OF AIRS. 1llt0n as addressed
DIT. SfOrrS rs 0ALeu december 10, 1917, anu was
incorporated accurately In the narrative known
as tue True Story:'' II was IN that statement
tnat mrs. Triton SAID, :" Mr.. Beecher nad solicited
her 10 become wIle TO him with all that that term
mphed:n read That 70 him al that time pre-
sumo read TO nln that portion OF the statement
to which you mr.. Morrlsl nave called my atten-
ton; / read 20 him rom no other document.
Mr.. Morris again read rom the testimony as fol-
lows
o. read 10 you a brief statement OF Mrs. owing
ton ana will ask you question IN regard 20 IL.
IL i III No .. page 49, speaking OF the interview
49, d VFa ngvn al
ton estate what was SAID or done on mat sub
jectSp IL Is necessary 20 refer TO wnat preceded
Ii because the answer re- ers 10 the suoJectY "A.
When he spoke OF the fiction, think IL was he
said, Elizabeth VIII lie Tor me. sne viii tell any
number 81 lies 70 clear me. e loves me; ne SAID.
even Ii were on trial Tor the Nathan murder aud
she mad seen me commit the act do you TANK tnat
she II called upon 70 testify would ell the truth
and have rae convicted ne said no, she would
nol.u Now do you remember anything OF tnat
KIND happenings A. Tue language you aave Just
read
u Yes. A. Wei, sir, should not know how to
nswer that, because IL mas passed rom my mind !
now tnat you read u, y does not come up.
y. she spoke ABOUT Mrs. TIlton having let out
the only cool rooms she had AZ the house, and you
using some expressions Of this kind ''Wny does
herlu explain taatf A. ! recOilect something OF
that kind: tue circumstances were Ihese:-i was
visiting with Mr.. and mrs. Oyington, on tneir back
piazza, anu cnahced 70 maze remark 70 This
effect, that was sorry the piazza OF nv house was
not the back part instead Of tue 'front.' that my
piazza was practically OF no value TO the family,
ia order 20 use II tney must expose themselves
70 the street whereas mat OF Mrs. 0yington
could be enjoyed ia comfort aud the family main
tain their privacy; 1 think Mrs 0vington made
the remark aOOut nv house being cool and com
Portable IN the summer In consequence OF Gala
TN place opening perpendlculary in 'front.' OF n;
/ then made the remark that tnat was true, but
that Was very sorry Mrs. lliton had been CON-
PEELED 70 yield up toe pleasantest ana coolest
room ia my house-a second story. 'front.' room-to
Mr.. and Mrs. Taylor, VINO we're then occupying IL.
ana added, perhaps ia a satirical way, "rnis Il
one ol the consequences Of tnls scandal. Unless
de end myself against the accusations brought
against NE ! presume ! shall 20 70 complete
rqinf-sOme sucn conversation as thar; MT.
Beecner mas referred IN his testimony 70 con-
versation which ne states ne bad VITA AR. Moul-
ton M when lie related an Interview he had with
Mr. Bowen, al nis louise IN clinton street IN tbs
interview MI Bowen says ns made the r.
marx, "Hqs ran ever BE- recon
Beecher's portrait; reierriug to TINS staremynt
! have 70 say tcOntnued Mr.. Iitonl that during
the Time Mt. Moulton vas ~ Clinton street that
dd not 20 INTO Mr.. Mouton's house until he
went 70 reside ia Remsen street.
ANOTHER THEODORE.
o. Mr. Beecher mas re erred In bis testimony 90
his interview with air Bowen. and states thas
you (iIltonl attempted. as he was informed ~
Bowen, 70 excuse some OF the stories that nad
Uecn told concerning you ~ stating that they
referred 70 Theodore n. luton Adverting 10
tins statement Mr. Illt0n said he mad seen or
knOwn Theodore II. Hilton. lie dld not hear any
thing concerning Theodore II. TttOn AZ the time
1871
Dir. Evarts SAID the defence I'D not care TO dis
cuss about Theodore II. IiltOn.
MI. MOrris-Wel, We do we want TO show, az
ne has Ueen referred 70 ~ Mr. Beecner. AID as be
sad that Mr. Bowen stated that Mr.. Tilton at
tempted 20 excuse these stories or explain them
Oh the around t1at they related 10 Theodore "a.
Tnton the inference intended TO be drawn rom
that vas mere preteXt, tnen there was no sucn
person a. Theodore H. ItOn aud IL was mere
subterfuge. Vow, want 70 snow and propose
10 snow that tHere was yeritaOle Theodore 40.
Tton ana tina, about that tine ne had obtained
4 divorce from his vile and II had got around ana
II nad become somewhat talked about, and that
Mr.. ritcn's alusOn " him Or = date subse-
quent to tnat.
Tne discussion 81 thls point LED 10 ! long legal
debate.
Mr. Evarts-Wcl the point 0f Mr.. Beecner's
testimony Is TINS: II j. said Dy Mr. nltOn 30 hun
seli-not ~ Mr. Bowen, Out ~ Mr.. nifon 70 Mr..
Beecher-
Mr.. Morus-That makes IL siill stronger
Mr. EVarts-Why SAID stOrY-Alter making the
preparatory remarks freadllRi said ttndt the
story gong around abUut the Winsted AFFAIR was
absolutely ialse, and mad NJ foundation IN fact;
that ne couldn't understand now the story got
started, exCept that there was another Illion
bearing neary the same Initials. VINO was disco
lutte man h3d been about the country. ana that