New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-07-27

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that Alexander Frearintroduced the bill FOR the redue
ton Of head money from 81 30 to 81 5Oi A. have
saturday. have examined the records, also
Would the record refresh your mind Il: 70 your Dens
contradict you far Your testimony went In that
matteri A. Ny impressions arc III other way. .. o.
passage OF this bin in regard to the reduction
OF headmoney in 1871 A. had no other business there
@. Have you seen Mr.. Burns or Mr. Tweed since you
| testified ON Saturday A. No. 1 have not.
in Albany AID in the passage OF the hill for The rcduc
ton Of head money from the dleeat9n ron &
O. How ia Won happen 10 SOLICIT Mr.. Frear TO take
| charge of the bill 4. don't remember.
q Was il suggested by the Commissioners of Emigra-
ton that you Entrusted the bill 10 Mr. Frear A. don't
iecollect.
q Was it some connected with The Commssi9,p7elrs
the proper person TO the passage of the bll A.
don't know
Q. Had you ever met Mr.. Frcar before You gave him
| this hill A. don't remember. , ,.
q. We're You acting counsel for The Conns.,on,ts
Of Emigration when yon came in contact VIII M az,
Frear Mo- Gen Jones resigned "a; III isG" over n nat
| AIN satisfied that am correct IN the statement
| INQUIRIES CuNCFRNING GEN. JONES.
Speaker McGurc-I find upon looking over the record
of the Commissioners OF Emigration, that you must ne
mistaken about the resignation of Gen Jones a. conSe
! TO the Board He did not resign until Jan H. ISL
Mr. Jones drew his salary for 1870. A am surprised
at this. know That far az his duties as ccunsei were
| concerned, they ceased in 1869.
Speaker McGure-It has not been the intention az the
Committee and they would be reluctant to put II on
record that Gen Jones was drawing snecure saary'
This must be so if your testimony Is trustworthy A
never knew that he had any connection with the COImls
| sioncrs Of Emigration after 1869 - .
Sneaker Mcuirclho record shows that large sums OF
| Mi waehner~In 1871. Mr. Nol1n, when you had the
hin the reduction OF head money in charge did You
| 10 insure It's passage, A. think that did ...,
q. Was IL at that time that GEN. Jones informed YOU
| III and riI ll1 M
purposes similar Ia yOuT own ~ thihh MOI r'i;
Jones told me of these other instances Mheie money h
been received for similar purposes TO encourage me- ana
to demonstrate 10 me that was doing no wrong III TAI
6 Did Gen Jones advise you that the steamship com
paies had made arrangements with other counsel siml-
Q. Gen Jones never appeared before the other Com
nittec. and lac have informed you Of these 0ihcT
drus In other place besides this A. think that
| must have spoken to linn upon the subject.
@ Did not Gen Jones and others or cen. Jones ilid-
vidually, procure tins job from te steamship c3mahr
! in 1871 and the profits with you A. Idoche 10
O. Didn't Cen Jones or Others procure you this en-
pOymcnt in Is, counsel 81 the steamship cCnpatst
a. Not 10 my personal knowledge; ,,o. ,oa
procured this work for you ~ don't believe that
| q. Were You 40 informed in any other way A. NO.
| My employment by the steamship COMPANIES wa ',h
10 my success i'll the passage o the bill III INC year o
| fore.
O. According to any information implied understand
Ing. was your employment secured fUr any Other ia,o
than the you nave spoken OF A. No; 10 thc pes "
my Impression don't know What influences ~ Grated TO
S"tat,T Mm;nIc-Ihc coinc .,ience is ;r6abe that
Gen. JOle5 should Icssn ana tal a. SLOT ,lg ~
secure the passage Of bill to reduce the hea"h'y
Mr. Wacnrr-In 80 or 81 dill Gen. Jones snggc.t
your employment 10y tie steamship companie'f A
| don't remember that he dld. 49,, ~, H.
| preston is that he dill not IN 1870, bat au IN /, -
g. Dld son have ANY partnership win Cen. Jones o.
any arrangement in 1917 whereby any money was I" d.
paid TO himl a. decline 70 als%e. -. VIII, .,o.
YOU id not pay any money 10 anybody officially con
nected with the Board OF Emigration Here Is cen
II reads as follows: To stated salary for services rs
counsel to the Board Of Emigration ir S april $50 10
December, 1870, at the rate OF 1900 per ahnnn1'
~ ,s3J ~. Received payment IN iuli' Ialtlth II.
Jones" Here also is resolution Of the Board etaths
that the resignation Of Patrick H. Jones has been ac-
cep,ed Jan. 5, Is7l His pOso- as counsel was ten
dcred TO Gen George W. IluyeT' ana nc accepted ihe
Gov Alvord-Tnen. Mr. Nolan, Gen. Jones could not
have resigned N 1863! A. Gen Jones can explain that
Ills resgnaiol lay iii NJ C'G"imans hands Ior long
time. ceased my connection with the Board a. council
O. Why in O'Gorman's hand-i A. He WAS President,
think. may be wrong. ltseasy To confuse person
Mr. Wschner-In 1870 were you. IN partnership with
Q. DID you have an Office with Gen. Jontsi A. His
name was in the firm; contributed nothing 10 tne
that CONNECTION; Palmer, Jones & Nolan the firm
name; cen Jones then Postmaster OF this city and
he gave his name Out oi old friendship iOr me.
O. Was there any agreement with Gen. Jones and Mr..
Palmer whereby they to share this InOney with Npuf
4. No. sir never erohe a"0dt 'he h'"''of 20 MI
Palmer lie was not IN the trln ll ISL. - ,-,,
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regard TO The passage OF the bill A never spoke to
HIN about the matter.
O. Did he receive any share In TIE pronts or le enter
Prise A. decline 10 ans%er
@ Did you pay him any Of the profits OF the tr3nsac
ton with the steamship conpanlesf a. decline 10
q Did you pay MI Palmer any money in 1871 A.
O. When You closed up the business were the profits
divided with Mr.. Pamcri A. There was very little
O. do You know Gen Merritt A. know him; may
have seen HIM in Albany in ISL don't hno" but be
rht lstVp hspu an ne fii
spoke Gen Merritt abont the bill for the reduction OF
O. DID you ever pay any money Gen. Merritt A.
decline to answer
MR. FREAR's INTRODUCTION OF TIE BILL.
O. How often did you see Alexander Frear al Albanyf
A. Three or four times.
@. Did You meet him at the DelaVan HOusef a. can't
recall whether did OF not
Q. Did you him in his or your roomi A. first saw
him in the Capitol | made the acquaintance of Mr..
Frear little before went To Albany.
@. Where did you first mcett A. don't know
O. Where dId you meet Mr. Frear for The last time A.
In Saratoga, the year before last.
Q. Have YOU seen Mr. Frcar in Albany since III 1-71i
A. No Ny recollection il that wa not in Albany when
the bill reducing the hcadinoncy passed
GOV. AiyOrd-YOu were you said. Mr. Nolan. IN Albany
four OF FIVE DAYS DO you think that YOU IN
Albany when that bill passed A think thai the bill
WAS in sir. frcar's hands some days
Mr. Naturalization did you give Mr.. Frear the bill
o. You say that You went to Albany knowing only
three four Persons WHO did you first inquire for
there A. ! don't know.
Q. How did you happen TO 20 TO Mr Frcar \. don't
remember.
o. Was il suggested by the Commissioners Of Emlgra-
ton that you Should give the bill into Mr. frcals hands
A. 1 thluk not.
.. Dd you 10 10 anybody outside Of Albanyi A. de
cline to answer.
.. Did, You n.rust the bin to NJ FEcar by the sus
gestion Of any professional lobbyist! A Possibly.
Q. 10 whom did yOu first communicate the fact
that you had such = bill in chaIgci !. To Nj. FTeaT,
naturally.
q. Bni yon testify that your ,acqnqinance, with Mr.
FIear slight, aud You kne" Mr. Hl,aaoh Of st. Law
renee County, aud Mr.. Nelson also, who bad done bust
ness for YUuI A. Yes.
O. Eut ;ou first went to Mr. Frcarl A. Yea
g. Did YOU tel MIR. FreaT WHAT arrangements yOu had
made with tie steamship Co.Ecs a. did not tcii