New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-16
A BRISK DISCUSSION.

Mr. Evarts--We only ask the question, yes or no;
we don't ask what the conversation
Judge Neilson-wei. answer yes or no.
Mr. Beaeh-No; wait moment, Sir beg your Honor to
consider the question.
Judge NesonWe cannot take the interview between them
Mr. Blackwell but he is stating in answer TO the ques
ton: Ibid yon conversation with Carpenter in regard
to starting newspaper which Ton and Beecher to
be inerestedH" That part Of the conversation Sir
Mr. Tracy-That calling his attention 10 the subject OF the
conversational
Mr. BeachThe starting OF newspaper will be sufficient to
call his attention to the conversation without asking him to
modify it.
Judge Mechanically your question.
Mr. Tracy-I will change my question. ITO the witnessl
Did you have conversation with Carpenter in December 1872
in Sgard to a newspaper enterprise in the City Of New
Yo1 A. u.. ,,., .o,r.,..,o,,
Mr. Evarts-That is be shown by subsequent proof.
Mr. Ttaey-Qhl i tAe gentlemen say
Mr. Evarts-Sayy OF course we will produce 1t.
The Wtness-I had such conversation.
O. Did you have than such conversation A.
did have two
O. Did you afterwards sec Theodore Tlton and have
versaon with him in reference TO the conversation that you
had with Carpenter A. l had.
O. On that subject' A. Yes Sir.
O. Did you repeat Tlton the conversation that you had
had with Carpenter touching the newspaper enterprise A.
think did. about
@ Now will tell us what the conversation between your
self and Carpenter was:
Mr. Beach-Your Honor has ruled repeatedly during this TRIAL
that should be said the witness to the party
Judge Neson-We have taken both ways That has been
the usual way
Mr. Beach-You have repeatedly against us, Sir and con-
scny ruled tha-haye permitted us to give the con-
yershtion IL recoec Alright had between the witness aud
third person
Judge Neson-Except in instance; except in one In
stance.
Mr. Beash-And that has escaped my recollection.
Judge Nelson-[To defendants counse think 1t will do
as WELL won't IT, to 90 right to the conversational
Mr. Tracy-l think there are several instances.
Judge NeilsonOnly one Sir but won't it time to go
directly your Conversations At rate this subord
nate matter therefore you take the conversation between
this witness and Mr.. Tlton-
MI Tracy-Do understand your Honor 10 rule that have
a right TO 90 on'
Judge Nelson-Yes; aud give the conversation with Mr.
Tlton.
Mr. Tracy-Now, we offer to give 1t with Mr. Carpenter
Judge Neson-I direct take the other course because
il IL secondary and immaterial matter.
Mr. Tracy-Well the ruling has been entirely different.
against two Instances where Honor has
mitted them the witness stating that he had repeated the
conversation the payyou have permitted them TO give
the evidence the conversation between the witness and the
party.
Judge NeisonI recolec perfectly well what my ruling has
bee and stated moment ago In answer TO Mr. Beach, that
there was exception that exception relating TO the interview
when you and Mr.. Woodruff present.
Mr. Tracy-w your Honor permit TO call your attention
10 another rnga is in regard TO the West charges where
Mr. Mouton had stated the substance Of the charges
10 Mr. Beecher produced them There evil
dencc that charges produced 10 Mr. Beccher and
vet your Honor permitted them " stale what the charges
and put them all Ia. ....
Judge Ncson being in court That don't apply