The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-06-28


light by the majority OF the persons conEregated
abont the building, for one and all were heartily
tired or the dreary suspense, and nearly every
one but the reporters abandoned the scene.
The immediate neighborhood OF the Court House
Is also peculiarly inhospitaDe for, whether IL has
been from the excessive piety and religious scru-
pies OF the saloon Keepers or whether IL be thas
the Excise laws are enforced more rigldly IN the
City OF Churches than IN other adjacent cities, GER
tain 1t was that nothing to be obtained in the
form OF refreshment. This fact may have had
something 10 do with tile crowd beng SO small
around the Court House all day, for discussion, es-
pecally If at all loud and continued, is undoubt-
edly provocative OF thirst.
Taking it all IN ALL yesterday was the dullest and
most unlnterestng day since the jury retired.
JUDGE NELSON'S EXPERIENCE OF JuRIEs
At i've O'Clock yesterday HERALD reporter sent
MP his card by policeman TO Chief Justice Nell
son and requested the favor OF few minutes con-
versation. An Affirmative answer was promptly
received nom the Judge and the reporter made
his way to the chambers OF tine County Court,
when the following conversation took place.
REPoRTER-In your experience OF juries what
are the longest times you remember that they have
stayed out celebrating upon verdict'
JUDGE-Well, as rare cases may instance the
Charity Commissioners jury were out long
time--two days and three nights. In tne case OF
the explosion on tho Staten Island ferryboat the
jury was out two days and TWO nights and then
agreed. Tomorrow at one O'Clock this jury WILL
have oeen four days and nights In their room,
that Is to say, II they do mol agree ere then. III
may be remembered that the jury were out Ia the
last trial OF Stokes, the assassin OF Fisk, from
Tuesday, at eleven A. M, Till nearly midnight on
Saturday,
REPoRTER-Tt is said that you win not send for
the jury till they SEM you communication.
JUDGE-That Is my purpose
REPoRTER-It has been suggested that the Jury
have come to a deadlock on account OF not having
some OF the evidence and your charge for their
perusaI.
JUDaE--I talked the matter over with General
Pryor and Mr.. Beecher's counsel aud they were OF
opinion that to prevent the opening OF other Is
sues that 1t was not advantageous TO either side
TO furnish It.
REroRTER-But, Juage, suppose they cannotget
on without this
JUDGE-Then the jury ought to let me know IL.
Mr.. Carpenter has served on other cases as jury
man here, and this is a suggestion which would
naturally come to his mind and others OF mis-
brother jurymen.
SOME INTERESTING FACTS
REPoBTER-You can give me no Jury room inior
nation, Isuppose, Judge
JUDGR--Yes, can. juryman sent word that
he wanted to know how his mother was. and
sent an efrcer TO make the inquiry. Another OF
the jurymen has had the misfortune TO lose a
cousin since ne was locked up. A daughter OF one
OF the jurymen called here to-day and innocently
brought package OF clothing Tor MIN, wrapped
mp in paper, which took on 70 prevent It's be
ing used as o messenger. There It f., added
the chief Justice pointing TO a torn German
wspaper on the table.
REPoRTER-I see you have allowed the jurymen
10 have mattresses AT night
JUpGE-Yes, l don't see any use m crucifyfng
man while he Is doing public duty. The old law
was 10 give the jury no refreshments save water;
but that is partially nulnhed by the addenda, sex
cept 10 the discretion or the Court,u which is the
modern practice.
REPoRTRR-What DO you think about the story
published that a Iuryman had thrown out OF the
window a piece OF paper stating how the jury
stoodY
JuDGE-I don't believe It. think better OF the
jurymen than to imagine they would be guilty OF
such piece OF work. the story also OF the ballots
being found appears somewhat problematIcaL
REPogTER-wnst do you propose doing this
evening" may ask :
JuDaE-weI, I shall leave here directly, and II
the jury come to an agreement before eight
O'Clock shall summon the counsel on both sides,
a. have promised giving them an hours notice.
Alter eight O'Clock l shall not do this, as think
sne chances OF my even finding the counsel would
be small. l do NOS think that the gentlemen OF
the press need apprehend any fresh develop
ments, but / am very hopeful that we shall come
to q solution one way or the other BY Monday.
RIPoRTER-Tnis trial has undoubtedly been the
longest on record in the United statesP
JUDGE-CertainIy; and the jury are almost out
correspondingiy long time.
In reply to last question or tho reporter, ask
ing II the Judge would give the jury Instructions
tonight he replied, "No.'
THIS ended the interview.
THE ArTENPr TO ENTMIDATK LOADER AND PRICE.
IL having been stated tnat the Grand Jury had
been or were 70 be applied 20 by Rev. Henry Ward
Beecner Tor the purpose OF securing indictments
against the newly discovered witnesses, Joseph
Loader and Ionn J. Price, IN q criminal prosecution
for libel, visit was paid yesterday py a HERALD
reporter 20 Judge Morris. OF counsel for Theodore
Tilton, 10 ascertain his opinion on the subject
lie stated, In reply to the questions put 10
him, that IN his opinion the rumor IN ques-
tio= had only been published after It was
definitely known that the Grand Jury had
adjourned and when no such acrion could
be taken. He did not believe either that MT.
Beecher or any OF his friends or adversarles de-
sired to institute or commences any proceedings
against the parties hhmeas 'iOr they Know 700
wen," said Mir. Morris, ''tnat the truth has been
told. why,n continued the counsel Il should ike
nothing better than for them TO commence
action OF she kind, for then We could get these
men on the stand and the public would soon know
which side was telling the truth. Then, again, the
Grand Jury do not meet again until the fall The
statements you refer to nave, 10 nv judgment,
been gosten mp simply as an endeavor to counter
act the damaging eject on the public mind pro-
duced by the publication in the HERALD OF The
nc wiz discovered testimony"
AN INTERVIEW WITH SUPERINTENDENT BELL.
For some days II has been rumored In Brooklyn
that complications had ensued between the trus-
tees or Plymouth church and Mr.. George A. Ben
on account OF the evidence given Dy tue latter
gentleman during the trial. Mr.. Bell, II may be
remembered, was summoned 10 give testimony
by the plaintiffs counsel exJudge Morris. Mr..
Bell has known Mr.. Beecner for twenty-sevcn
years and Is the principal founder OF the Ply
mouth Bethel situated Ia Hicks street, near Fut-
ton Ycater1aV afternoOn. A halfpaet two a