New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-23

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tho prccsa ala you sce them thai nlshi' 'do"fhn"w
| that wont there. .
U Did ycu arc any proofs thcrr that nirh' ~ i"o"'
recoiicct tina, did.
| a. WIN you any that sou dld mott A. I will not
O. win you -ay that you didn't any TO that publisher
that Mr. Bcecher wanted the Covenant pnbllshedf A.
Will
Mr. shearmnn We have had that about ~ times your
Honor. and submit that ought not TO have 1t any
moro.
Mr. Morris-wc win mark u ~ them and stop.
O. Have you any recollection Of The conversation that
occurred at the oiioe In tho EVENING" A. have not.
O. DO you rccolect how long you wore NJ tho OoeI A.
whent
O. In tho eyoningi A. I don't rccoleot being In the
Office.
O. What your present recollection upon that point
A. have distinct recollection about that evening
hsve partial recollection that went over with one OIL
the gentlemen named but 1t distinct In mind
O. Your recollection. them upon that subject was moro
clear when you testified at tho house than It now Isl
Mr. shearmanIf your Honor please, this about the
twentieth time have had this question brought up
I have tried TO be patient thus far.
Mr. Morris-Donr lose your patience; don't weary IN
we'll doing.
Mr. shearman-Jf the twentieth time would be the last
time would not object II llkoiy to be asked 900
times
Mr. Morris-No I will limit II 10 the number you sus-
gest
Mr. sheerman-Llmi It to 90 times and then won't
| object
Q. Was your recollection when you testified at the
house on that subject clearer than it Isl A. don't
think II WAS Sir.
Q. Well. then. what do you mean by this:
My recollection Of that ls that the Gentleman went
the Covenant the ne f morning was cOrrccttat 1t
corded with the original
You have no such present recollection now A. tes-
tilted think. that had partial recollection OF gong
TO tho Offices OF the newspapers In the evening with one
OF the gentlemen named who went TO read proof.
O. Have you that recollection now Z A. have an iu-
distinct recolee ton OF going but Is not clear IN
| my mind.
O. And that that was the purposetO read proof A.
That was the purpose, IL went.
O. You saw Mr.. Bcecher Gu the 25h OF Junei A. |
did
O. In 1871 A. 1873.
O You saw him on tho Goth OF june believe 1874,
did you not! A. did.
O. Where did you sec him on that day. hrstf A. lisa"
him at Ills house. Fist saw him on the horsecars,
going down Beekman-st
O. What time In the day hat A. About o'clock,
think.
@, In the afternOoni A. In the afternoon
O. And what time did you see him after that at his
hOusef A. Between 8 and o.
O. Did you go right overt A. went over about
| O'Clock.
O. Did you go to his housed A. | dill
@ In consequence OF any in'itstionI A Ia conse
1uence OF an invitation.
O. What ia that A. Yea, Sir: what uhdes'ood " w
ON invitation.
O. Tn the afternoon OF the Goth OF June, Mr. Beecher
suggested the OF certain gentlemen, ala no ho'
upon whom he meant call to investigate the charges
contained In the Bacon lettorf A. He did
O. Did he nalne you Of those personsf a. lie
did.
O You wore asked that question when you were cS
amined at your house, were yen mott A. don't re-
member
@. You don't remember thatt
Mr. shearman-Now. your Honor. have submitted to
great many quesons being asked in this Indefinite way
but now insist that the paper shall be shown TO the WI
ness.
Mr.. MOrris-f will do that.
Judge NesOn-Turn 70 the question ane answer
Mr.. Morris-I will do that.
O. While am doing this Mr.. Cleveland Will you state
the names of the gentlemen that he did suggest there III
the afternoon A. lie named seven or eight, Sir
Mr. Morris-That does not hardly answer my question
Tho Witness-IIe named Henry W. Sage; he named
Horace b. Clahin he named in fact all the members OF
the Committee but one. think
O. State all the names that he nainedI A. inc hcih"ls
OF the Committee, all but one, l think.
O. Give ia the names OF the persons that he named
there in tho A. He named al the members OF
the Communicable. Belcher, Mr. Hawkins, MI. Shear
man.
@. Which Mr. shearmsni A. Thomas q. shearruan
@. One OF the counsel here. Well, have you namcd
all now A. That Is as recollect It,
O. You say Mr. Beccher suggested your name A
think no did; that Is my recollection.
O. Any doubt about ~ A. have great doubts about
anything said when was on my back
O. Uyou say IL now, you are not on your baokt A.
No, Sir
O. What do you say about it nOwt A. simply state
that he named seven eight gentlemen.
Mr.. Morris-NO, no. no; that Is not my question.
O. Did he name you as one OF those genilemeni
Mr. Shearman- He has answered that already.
Mr. Morris-How has he ansercd III
Mr. Shearman-He said he did.
Mr. Morris-well now. will ask you this question:
Can you rocollect any nsmo he suggcstedt
Mr. Shearman Well. he has mentioned tho names
Mr. Morris-I am not through yet; will so back lit
tie further.
O. Were YOU not asked this question, and did you not
mako the following answer:
O. What names did he suggest A. cannot rerolcct
O. Can You rccollect any name tht ne suSsestedi a.
cannot state. Sir. 49,
o. Didn't he suggest youi A. lie did not
A. Then desire TO make the correction.
O. That Ia not corrccti Now prior to his naming you
IA one OF the members Of the Committee the afternoon
Of June 20. had NJ seccAer advised y!!h you q ell WIN
reference the succ matter of the Investigations A.
Prior to that afternoon lac Ind not
@ Did he that aftcrnoOnl A. lie did
O. Now. are you positive That prior W yonr meeting
him at his house, between and O'clock lac had not
advised with you with reference 20 the succ, matter OF
the investigation A. am positive
O. You arc positivoi
MI shearman-Hes says lac did II understand your
oueson you asked him il he did not aud he says did
Mr. Beaeh-He says now he didn't.
The wltness-Will you repeat the question:
Mr.. shearinnn You don't understand the question
Mr. MOTls-It is very simple.
Mr. Beach-The question is plain and simple
Mr. Eyarts-AllOw me to ask y0u Mr.. Morris, will you