The New York herald., 1875-12-22
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have tho same aims and objects in view,
tor both intended 70 defend and uphold
system OF public education The two organizations are
just alike, and, as ] understand, one OF them was
organized in Ohio while the other existence
In the Eastern States don't know II they are now
working together as q single body. Perhaps they are
The names and aims OF them are, lsuppose familiar
'sThe name OF one OF the organizations don't know
and II did know the other IL would be out OF my
power to tell you what It Is The atm and object ofthe
societies have already been touched upon. They are
organized entirely unsectarian basis and have
been created solely for the purpose of defending the
integrity OF our present admirable public school
Eyes, but what about the support which II is said
Grant Is TO have for third term Of Office from the
"The organization has nothing whatever to do with
the third term agitation / in Washington all last
week and Mr. Blaine, who says that the entire
matter is all Greek to him; and don't believe that
either he Grant members Of either Of the socio
ties now indicated don't know OF any meeting con
cernsng these societies having taken place in the ST
Nicholas Hotel, New York Indeed my health and
circumstances haye Of late been such as not 70
admit Of my going out much anyw6era Al
which In to.day's HRRALD's article is designated
as the National Council never heard OF money hav.
ing been obtained here alleged nor am aware that
the big guns and employees Of the Custom House afe
active members Of any such fraternity as that now de-
scribed Neither Fosters letters nor his interviews
with members OF the press prove anything for It Is
clear that he has thrown light on the subject Of
this so-called q A u. and that II he Ia q member or
such an organization u would be out OF his power 10
reveal any Of Its secrets am, and have beon for more
than twenty years, member of the United Order Of
American Mechanics but this Is not Q secret order;
everybody knows when and where It's meetings are
held People OF all creeds, including Roman Catholics
belong 70 1t and the brotherhood Is non political In
any political party"
'Are you prepared, Major, to say anything respect
Ing the reasons which led 70 the organization Of the
o. A. Urn
"Why, az far as know. their existence must be at
Iibuted TO the avowed hostility OF Bishop McQuade
Father walker, OF the Roman Catholic church. and
othor leading Catholics, against the public schools On
several occasions n hts addresses lectures and letters
~ Syracuse New Orleans and elsewhere, Bishop Nc
Quado has expressed himself a. tho determined 90.
ponent 70 tho national schools, and hoped that he
expression Of such beral sentiments as these coupled
with tho ianaticd discourses OF Father Walker tho
threatening acon OF the Catholic Union and such like
signs OF the coming Storm rendered some counteract
Ing agency an absolute necessity
"The Catholics think that King James Bible should
not DO read In the public schools the exclusion Of
other editions OF the Scriptures What would you
reply to this pont7n
II would treat the Bible in the public schools as II 1.
were the work Of Shakespeare any other celebrated
author IL ought not to DO either especially included
or particularly excluded from the schools Those who
desire 70 read the Bible there should have the prvt
lego Of doing so. and those who don't want 10 read II
ought not 70 DO compelled TO use the book Catholics
should have the rgnp (which undoubtedly they possess
and reading them there. Protestants ought
also be conceded an equal privilege With re-
speci 70 their particular version Of the Scrpturea III
any Board OF Education has taken the unwarrantable
liberty OF adopting rule for the purpose OF making
obligatory on scholars 70 DarticDato In Bible reading