New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-13

In that back paror the time OF theee attentions which
attracted your attention. A. don't remember but the two
yures Mr. Ton and the lady distinctly during the even
fng there Others coming and going.
No no; at the time you noticed these attentions oil when
you speak, who in that back parlori A Why, Sir hs
attention, went nearly the whole evening.
O. didn't ask you that A. We'll, Sir gave you that as
why can't possibly reply definitely to question
@ Were there several persons in the back paorf ineo
were Sir
O. Can you state whether Mrs Tton was there In the
back parlorf A. did not her in the back parlo curing
that evening; saw her in the dining ROOM
@ Wait one moment can you tell whether or not MI
Beecher the back parlor A. lie was not that reme
be though ought qualify that answer because must ray
that Mr. Beecher in the dining ROOM Wheh opened .o
the back pao which somewhat the same being In The
back parlor
O. we did You any remark in regard to those atten
tons evening while at the housef mol while In the
company, Sir.
Did apy person in the company while there make re-
mark TO Won or that you overheard A. They did not Sir
O Then there observation In words made upon these
attentions at that timer A. Not at that time.
O. Then do you whether they observed by
but YOURSELF A do know at least one other per
con who observed them Sir.
O. Who thsti A. Ny wife, Sir.
Q. Oh your wife Do you know whether any other
person except yourself and your wife observed hem' do
not, Sir; was stranger 10 the entire company.
Q. Wait one moment; you answered my question. Now,
third meeting when do you say that wasf A. don't know
10 what you refer, Sir.
@ You gave this meeting Of which have spoken at Mr.
Tons house; understand you gave the date OF the last
meeting which spoken Mr. Tions house as june
1870 the society thce' A. That is to the best OF my
recollection.
O. understood you speak then Of call you made ubse-
suently the Summer? A. Yes, Sir
O. When was that-how long this June CALI A. IT was
not very long after, Sir.
@ Well about how long, you recollect' A. |
should say Sir that toward the latter part OF june
while the other was probably the early part that only to
the best Of my recollection, however
Well then did you not speak subsequent call therc'
A. think asked subsequent call except these
eaIs-those several calls on that evening.
O. Three cals-you named three. A. Did name three
calls Siri
@ Yes Sir; in March, 1869, or the Fail OF
1865 another june 1870 early part and third the latter
part OF June, 1910 a. Yes Sir
O. And what occurred the time Of this latter caJune-
latter part of June 1907 A. This occurred that called
about
q The two ladies' A. Oh, at the time when they came in
do you mean, SIR
@ Yes A. Or do you mean the whole evening"
O. No; mean whether that the. A. That was The
q Latter part june 1870 A That is my recolectcn
doni want to be definite because my OF
dates lie very good.
@ want to get you close as can. A. Yes, Sir.
@ Then you had subsequent interview with him under
stand boat later in that Summer A. Yes, Sir
O How late that Sir; how long after this call of the
latter part 1912 A That il less definite than any
Othey in my mind, Sir.
@ Well give you can Sir the ep.th OF time
after call You have mentioned Of the latter part Of
June 1907 A. have stated my suppositon TO be August
1870 but am at all confident Of the date.
20 'Iaen you think in August 1902 A. think co.
Sir. t.
TT InG you cay Mr.. TltOn very much agitated'.
n seerod very mseh agiaed his conversation some
,hs, abrupt, A. 1t was DUNG ibis portion OF It,
o During this portion Of il Wen, do you rcoleet any
,,her subject upon which you talked! A. We 'sSe2 ue
after left the Office Tried to engage MN Ia oOn'ofsAon'
he seemed distracted
U lie seemed abstraot,dt a. Yes, Sir
o Seemed moody A. Somewhat so; remember one sub
e m discussed lie said he wished there was some sensation
going on something give the papers little more interest
than there was; it was dull occasion
q Very brief, that wasi A. zee, Sir.
q DO yoa recoeci any conversation that occurred on the
before introduced this subject OF the marital rela
,ion' A. do not Sir.
O. SO far as you recocc thst the first topic that be
mentioned after You entered the eryboa: A. That is the
only topic recolcc, Sir Oh the ferry BOAT
Mr. BeachlTo the COUNSEL lie says that was in August
1870
The Witness Probably
@ That probably in August OF 1870 had you noticed Tins
Abstraction moodness the part OF MI Iiion Tor any
length Of preceding that interview A. Only lhs after
noon a. we left Office Sir; only that afternoon
O And how do YOU recocc that conversation opened The
ferry boat A. II opened ecocct distinctly. by Nj Ttons
asking what thought cannot give the exact words
thought the subject OF marriage that Is my rec"i
lection now or question Of marriage can't give the
phrase precisely Of the question
@ VIII you please proceed with that conversation, Sir
responded that had think Of the
ton marriage; giving only the substance Tor
don't remember conversations literally remember some
phrases.
@ you married at that time, Sir! A. was, sr-that
Ihad think the question Of marriage
don't but tina, added being wei satisfied my
self with my condition
@ didn't ask you that; asking about conversation
Your question suggested that sr think said that on
the occasion
O Please spare me your suggestions. A. Then Mr.. Ton
responded that-Mr Tton asked again the question what
thought cannot give his words but the substance OF his
question what thought OF those cases 10 winch men
and women found themselves uncongenialy mated {:
that was the idea | quite distinctly remember and |
replied that they con,cenousy and faithfully toward
one another they would grow together think used the ex
precision grow together pretty sure o. that phrase
when Mr. Tton replied phrase that remember pretty dis
tincty: they more and more apart with
an abrupt exceedingly strong expression when he said it,
@ Anything else? A. That is all, excepting the remark
about John Stuart Mill He asked me If did not revere
Mr. MIL a. a philosopher, and said did.
remember now which did not remember in
the opening lie said that Mil hadhe understood from all
intimate friend Mills that Mil had not been married. or he
did not say that this moment. He said that Mi was not
married. TO his wife. | SAID: Il understand you mean
q H. Lewis" but he said, NO" ] understood from him
the fact that Mr.. Mil was not married to ms "fe
answered Well Mr. Tton, "Well Theodore II don't
know which called him" Mr.. MIL man who lived with his
wife faithfully until her death, and who lived over her grave
after her death the to be quoted your side OF the
marriage question don't remember anything further sad
O. And you did revere Mr.. MIL suppose! A did.