New-York tribune., 1875-02-11


Judge NeilsonTo the wtness The question Is whe'nel
you consider yourself an expert photographer.
The witess-wen Sir shall have to answer yes but
under compulsion.
Judge Neilson-Certainly
Mr. Evars-That will stand and that is an answer 70 iy
question ITO the wtne-s Now during the perou VI 'lo
conferences and consultations and reading and hearing papers
which have been spoken OF in your own direct "a
which you and Mr. Becher. You, Mr. beocner anu M ~
part were you in the habit OF making phonosc
copies OF all papers that in Mr. Moutons hano 'na'
came to your notice or knowledge' No. SIR made some
notes OF some which thought mportan not great many
@ Did Won not habithay and systematically take phono-
graphic copies Of papers that were brought 10 your notice
during these conferences aud consultations
Mr. Fulerton-That is the question right again,
precisely.
The winess-rTo Mr. Eyarts OH no, Sir.
Mr. Fulerton-I willing he should answer IT. but once is
enough
Mr. Evarts-[To the wlnessl You did not' A. No, Sir
did not made Of very few Of hem not onewentieh
part Of the whole papers. That a rough guess.
O Can you state those that yOu did thus copy' A. Well
Sir you will bring my last statement can point out to
you those which made copies Of.
Judge Noson-He wants your present recollection
Mr. Bcach-I will probably be refreshed by his statement
Mr. Evars- have nothing to do with refreshing his recol
lection.
MI Beach-rTo the witnessl Then you not bound to
refresh your memory; let ii be.
Mr EvartslTo the wness1 will take your answer; can
You tlose OF Nhcu you CupOs iH '"O
inquired off II you will pass the papers under review
before my eye tell you every but cannot evoke
the pile aud make them stand before my memory
O. Your memory regarding the transactions as they occurred
aud the papers they in these transactions does not
enable you 70 remember any paper that You coed On!
yes, Sir.
O. Now will You give me thcse' A. was simply saying
should not like here memory, under OATH all the
papers that copied
@ Iasked you to those that you did A You asked
me to name all; now you ask me to name one.
Judge Nelson ITO the witness Name those that you did
copy
Nj Eyarts-Name all that you remember A. made
copy Of Mr. Bceches letter Of January st 1S called the
letter Of contrition
O. When did you do hai A. On the same evening when
saw It.
@ Now, 60 on with any others. "A. made copy Of the
Of 9Th Of February which Mr. Beecher sent to Mrs
TltOn through my hands also copy OF Nj Beechers letter
Of the 7th Of February.
@ And a. the time supposei A. At that time, which
borrowed 10 show to Mrs Tion made both Of those re-
member that
@ That the letter to Nj Mouton of the 7th Of February
A. Yes Sir
A. And those you made at the t'me' A. Yes, Sir.
@ The copies yoa made The time? A made copies Of
my letters
@ You kept copies OF your own letters made copies Of
them A. Yes Sir for instance my letter to Mr. Bowen of
January s 1871, and generally Of my own letters. My i'm
preston is that Of all the many letters outside Of those which
DctNhci sent 10 MOultOn-OIty lee hON
@ don't know. A. That made copy Of fragment Of
namely part Of the letter Of June M 1879 and part two
parts of Mr. Beechers letter dated February something 1872
Mr. Morris-FebTuary 9TH.
The WitnossThe ragged edge letter." 1t s called.
Mr. Morris-Yes February 9th.
The WncssJust at this moment don't remember making
any other copy. sti won't stand on it.
Mir Evartswell understand that. This is your present
rccolectonl A. Yes Sir.
Q Now you quite certain that you did copy the
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that Of February 9TH? A. ! am quite sure, Sir.
O. Certain my question: A. Yes Sir; no only had
parts That letter Of February 9TH lSis that the ragged
edge letter.
@ Yes Sir A. Yes Sir had copy Of fragments Of that,
ahi afterwards made the in statement Of sup
posing they extracted from two different letters
q Now that is the basis Of your present recollection to
your making copies Of papers they passed aongf A Well
ST. you would give all the papers all the letters in the
that take them up by think then can tel
you whether copied this or didn't copy that
@ But without that aid this is all you remember!
A. Yes, Sir
@ And understand you, you quite certain that,
general thing you did not copy them? A. Oh Of general
thing did not Sir; copied very eyey few There
muudnou correspondence Of four years Of which copied
avery small portion indeed very small portion OF it,
q Now did you, this examination before the Committee,
in question, make the which will read:
90 Can you produce copyf" "a do not know and am
souy cannot tell you have Of photographic notes
Whenever these letters came whenever there anything in
them that Frank wanted he would read them TO
Whenever Mr. Beehe said anything he thought being read
would crafty feelings and conduce to compromise Of
peace U.s. speaking Of the kindness with which had
treated him. the difficulties Frank read them me- and
shorthand always used 10 make copy Of them
A. did say always" said sometimes did very rarely.
@ You think that in your you used the word come
times instead Of "always"? A. Well, don't know what
said in my other than what is there know exactly
that little handful OF notes
@ My only question whether you asked that question,
and whether you made thai to 1t: A. 1t is utterly i'm
possible that should have said always because did not
always make Them very rarely made them.
@. That : question Of morals, whether may say
thing he didn't do My question is whether you did, not
A. Well Sir; don't remember either the question the fact
telling you the fact.
@ That didn't inquire about have got through with that
Now viii you tell what system Of photography it that
you pracccd There systems Of various names there
no-yarous styesi A. Well Sir when learned photography
it was called Ptmans System don't that
Changed since Ny friend, Mr. Munson has introduced
improvements and believe the system bears his
Phonography is distinct from sienography.
@ You practicei phonographyi A. Yes Sir
@ And it was Pmans system? When was it you learned It!
A. Oh when was quite boy.
@ After you had left the Academy? A. Oh, no, Sir long
before left the Academy.
Q Before you left the Academy A When was boy ata
public school.
NO LETTERS DESTROYED BY Mr.. TILTON.
@. Now Sir, have you at any time destroyed
any Mr. Beechers letters that passed to your notice