The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-07-23

told by the superintendent to give the detective
all the assistance that he required; Detective
spittals then stated to me what the nature OF his
business was; he showed me a warrant which he
had from London and he asked me 20 assist MIN In
locating the man.
Counsellor Troy objected TO this giving OF con-
yersation had when the superintendent was not
present
Wirness-I located where this man was stop
ping, and ABOUT hal-past eleven O'Clock on Mon
day night March 20, l arrested him at the house
OF a respectable family; prefer not to name the
family; the house 10 on the corner OF Myrtle ave-
nue. and schsnck street; Detective Spittals was
WITHIN few feet Of me when made the arrest;
took the prisoner 10 the Fourth precinct station
house, where he was locked up till the next morn
ing; stated TO the prisoner the nature OF the
charges against hin; the next morning brouEht
him down Co tue Su perrin tendent's oice aud thei
intrusted him 10 Detective spittais; represented
To the Supernt endent That the man was wiling TO
80 back; tue only authority upon wnich ar
THE WARRANT FROM LONDON;
l had no state warrant never heard Of a State
warrant being required in case OF this KIND;
never attempted TO take him before u magistrate,
as never heard OF case OF rails Kind being taken
before one; never saw Detective Splttals before
that tme the case was reported by me TO
sergeant Frost the same morning. when | gave
him all the particulars; the detective stopped at
police headquarters daily while in New York.
CrOss-examined By counsel for the defence-The
Commissioner or Police then were Joroan,
Briggs ana Jensen.
q. what conversation was had between
the prisoner anu yourself upon tae subiectY
Counsel for the Board objected, and Mr.. Tracy
insisted that they had right 10 know what was
said The question was admitted.
Witness-I met him on the corner or Myrtle
avenue and Schenck street, and told him that he
was charged with robbery IN London, and tnat
there was an offlcer out mere for aim; he asked
me wnen the officer was going back; told him
the oflicer would sail the next DAY, and ne said
take ms chances there he said he had been rob-
bing the rrm for more than year, and lie didn't
money he had taken rom them; the following
morning, after leaving the nuperihtendehts
when II went into the superiniendenps
ONCE to take him the next morning ne
was reading paper, ana l ask ca, MIN, i'm
was he said he couldn't stand being hunted
round from one end OF the country TO the otser ;
he said he landed rom England IN the West india
Islands; he was not aware that there were any
oilcers alter him while there.
me question being asked as TO what tine pris-
Neeves said 10 the detective, Spittals. ooJec-
ton was maze by the opposing counsel.
The Commissioners admitted the conversation
between Folk and The prisoner but would not
receive what was said between 5pittals and
MIR. Tracy said it was q matter of-polty and
courtesy accord assistance to foreign countries
to return prisoners charged with ieloGes. 1t had
always been the custom to detain parties arrested
on charge OF ieones TIL such time as they can be
properly extradited. Exception was taken TO the
Witness-rne action taken In the matter was
reported the next day to the Commissioners; the
spoke of It to Commissioner Br1g.s
President Briggs said 1t might have been 80, but
he mad ne recollection OF It.
Witness-Yes, sir; you said 1t was all right;
General Gordon said II was all right, as 1t was q
Mr.. Troy informed Commissioners Briggs that he
had been summoned as witness, and would I've
an opportunity to testify.
President Briggs said he would rather not
testify.
NltLess-Thc superintendent simply told me to
turn the man over 70 SpIttals.
q. DO you know Of any similar case being APP
sloners Ruled out. The witness was required
TO produce his detective BOOK, on dema OF the
counsel who said that the superintendent and
whole business ana he desired all the Information
possible.
Wltness-Th1s book is private memorandum
of my dolngs every day; keep IL for my own in
formation, ana not under any rule OF this depart
ment; heard nothing on tne DAY went TO New
York with Neeves
ABOUT TaE LONG ISLAM. BANK ROBBERY;
l was onncaiy informed OF It the following
the squad read II OF to all the omGers;
particular directions given me by the Superin-
teEdent to my knowledge In that case; was as
signed to WORK up particular part oft that was
three or four days after It's cOmmisslon; cannot
repeat what conversation we had IN connection
with the case at the time; l went to New York
and tried TO locate the parties who put up the
job. ,
with this ROBBERY whose names 1t Is not to the
public interest to make known In answer theret 10
that. the public were put in possession
OF all Information on the subject. The people
hau a right 10 know. The crime was commit
ted In March last and no arrests had been
made. '"rhe rights oil the public is very popular
is not always proper 10 reveal what the police are
doing.n Counsel contended 1urther that what
che superintendent told his otncers to do and
what they dld IN toe exercise OF their judgment
were different matters, and the Superintendent
could not be neld responsible for errors made ny
Wltness-The Long Island Bank robbery was re-
ported ON sunday, March IS; April went 10
went to PInkerton's Detective Agency; the par
| ties | was alter were Dave Jones ana George But
Ter; they are sneak thieves, burglars and every
| thing else wnere tnere IS a dollar TO be made.
objection being made again to the line OF ques-
| lions counsel for the prosecution SAID he waited
| to snow tnat tHe Suoerintendent did not DO his
duty and failed to enforce the rules OF the depart.
ment and therefore lie is Incompetent To discharge
| the duties OF the ONCE He aid not properly III
| rect the means at his disposal in executing tae
| requirements Of the position.
President Briggs said the Superin tendent Is re-
sponslbe Tor tue proper conduct and execution
| OF the orders OF the Board.
| WItness-After tine Heaney robbery when " emit
| to New York l saw Detective Mullen, who prom
4 lsed to get the TWO men for me suppose that
tne thieves 81 New aOrS , a[S Kisnelay uividea
| that time No. Is Rivington street; went~ tnere
| with Detective Corwin also went 10 see the Po-
! lice Superintendent OF New York; | frequently
| went TO New York and walked up ana down the
Bowery looking Tor the men; we call the Heaney
affair sneak robbery; is was done In the even
ing ABOUT halfpast SIX O'Clock; | formed the
| theory mat 1t was the same men who committed
| the bank and the Heaney robDeries; based my
judgment on information received. in one case
| from an ofncer, and In tue other from a
| private source; nave made no arrests
| in any OF these cases: neither in the
Long Island Bank robbery, Hartigan murder,
| Shute assault or Harvey case; associated with NJ Q
| In these cases were Detectives Van Wagner, Cor
win, FROST, Williams, Butts, and can't say II Corr
| was not.
| Motion to strike out the third specification,
| when charges lncompetency and negligence, was
| here MADE by Mr.. Troy, as II contained nothing
| specific. IL would not he said, be considered a
| decent specification In a dog 1ght. rne motion
| was denied.
| SERGEANT CHARLES FROST
| testified that ne entered the Neeves case on the
| detectives' Dlotter March 20, and the bank rob-
| Dery on the same day; never saw Detective Spit
tails, OF London, at all tne Long Island Bank rob.
| berry was reported to the superintendent, who
| told the sergeant to give IL to all the men and
| have them WORK on tho case; witness did Sol
| Butts, Van Wagner and Campbell were specially
detailed on the case; at the time Of the Heaney
| robbery Mr. Folk was sick and aid not come TO