New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-27
THE TILTON-BEECHER TRIAL.



being that lives ycu don't know the effect OF any single
word that you drop you don't know the effect OF any
Angle act of your e what &c is going upon
other human SOUL and therefore you responsible
q You don't believe in free agency, thent A. Agency
and freedom are two words that Numerically op
posed 10 each other that cannot understand that they
belong together at all
O. Well perhaps II Is covered by your answer that Won
don't believe in personal responsibility for human ac
toni A. No. Sir; do not
Q, That is. matter what a person may do on this
GARTH there is no Just responsibility A. Yes, Sir
there Ia just responsibility in this wise any human
soul believes God and to be protected from evil
or rather undeveOped spirits and is Joined the
Divine Spirit Of God, or rather Lord and Master
said. grated into a true vne which is the son of
God" then no evil can approach them. II any human
soai will ask God 70 protect them through Lord aud
Master Jesus Christ then they viii be protected and in
that wise they are responsible.
O. But you say that every human soul at its birth
once under the influence of this ccng band Of spriti
A. That God appoints for them yes. Sir.
O. And that those influences which blessed in tho
first instance become injurious only by the permission of
the Lordi A. don't think they injurious,
because when anybodys spiritual vision is opened
that they see, they will see that all evil il only
of growth that the Lord permits every human
soul 60 into for their growth and for their spiritual
good. soon or late.
Q That Ia. acts badly, II is sort OF Cody dis
cipine to make him betteri A. No. Sir; don't say
that that ia your words not mine
q Well. only supposed that the result OF your
principle A. No. Sir only wish TO say that God sees
the end Of every human beings life. just exactly
florist gives every little flower just exactly what needs
for its growth and its best growth God Heavenly
Father gives every human just exactly the disci
plme and the he and the experience. that that human
soul needs not to gOtfy God but TO develop that human
soul into its ghest and best and nObest possibilities.
Wall Vnri halt IN IN ION A Not IA a
Church teaches il; no, Sir.
q. No. don't suppose you believe in e n The Church
teaches IT, A. believe in rencarnation.
q. Well. I understand you that you are . medium,
rem believe, through whom departed spirits eommunl-
cate 10 the visible material woriG' A. Yes. Sir: am
O. You have no doubt about thatl A. have more
doubt about IL than have that God lives that you
questioning now; it Is not belief il is knowledge
not only know that they communicate with me, but
them plainly have spirit by you while
you are talking to see them and hear them at times
q Well. is that OF the good or bad ones / would
like 10 know. laughter 4. cannot tell You only I
should think IL a daughter young lady.
z Well. have got OF that kind. Well madam,
pass from that Subject. A I perfectly willing to
hnger that subject for interested in that
than am m anything else.
q Well have doubt Of IL, madam II Is very inter
esting listening your ideas II relieves us from good
deal Of responsibility here When yOu divorced from
Nr Dsnielsf 4. In the month OF March.
q ls7ti A. Yes Sir.
knd when was you married to DR.. Pslmer' A. In
Few days aferward; no it was a few weeks after.
O Oh. II is unimporant. a Il was very short time
4 know.
Have you any sympathy with the sOcalistic doctrines
Of the times. Mrs Palmer A. We'll, if you will tell me
what you by that, then viii answer your ques
ton.
O Well Judge from the fact Of your obtaining
divorce and being married your present husband that
in OF the
reationi A. Most certainly and always have done So
q And you have no sort of sympathy or countenance
for what is called the freelOye doctrines A No Sir
aud never had.
q That s indserminate association A. The only
sympathy that had with the doctrine Of frce-ove
Il that believe that men and women should live happily
together that Vs. husbands and wives should do all that
lag their power make each other happy and TO live
happy in this life and after both have tried and done
their best and becomes utterly impossible in the ma
ture Of things for them TO live together happily then
leye IN heir separating legally, and, If they choose
rnite themselves with others they find any one else
whom they love well enough 10 marry in legal bonds
O. Yes: you believe honest and serious effort
should be made for happy association A most GER
tsnly do
o. And II that cannot be accomplished II there Is IN
ncle uncon geniality between the husband and wife,
nv then o, believe in the proprlcty of their separa
ton, A. I most certainly do; their legal separations
and beleve in no other relation. the relation OF
husband and wife don't believe in any pronlsCuty
either ia marriage or out Of marriage.
q Well take our own State for instance, where d.
orce ia only alowed-that is absolute diyorce-for
adultery how would you get your uncongenial spirits
au,rt according TO lawl A. Well, don't know now 20
an.wer YOU because don't know the question you are
asking me. You surprising question. doh want
10 suppose any questions want you to ask me pam
Fngsh AN willing to answer anything you will ask
o Where did you obtain your divorced A. Here, in
tina State.
% On The ground Of adultery A. Yes Sir.
a s,nnose a care of uncongenia association of hus-
to6 and wife where il was impossible for them to live
happily together, and pretense OF adultery upon
other aide have you any theory in regard to them What
.houd he the practice Of the twof A Yes, SIR have
o We'll what is il A Ny belief is that they should
90 straight 10 the Legislature and have an tpassed tha
shaII enable men and TO separate decentiy Just az
they come together decently without compelling either
ope or the other 10 become criminal in order to be free
O. Well suppose the Legislature would not grant relief
what would YOU do then A. would get up petition
TINT would 20 from Maine to Georgia. and get every IN
haopy man or woman child 10 sign IT, and compel the
iagsstor-the acknowledgement to pass that act
such act
We'll. suppose after all the Legislature would not
what then would you do A can't suppose an lmpos
sibility. Laughter and applause
O. But you would get rid Of the association IN some
xsyt No Sir; II there was no way to get away from
4, agaily and rghtfully would stick By 1t and ask Coo
~ help me 70 endure IL
THE WITNESSES INTRODUCTION TO NH.
TILTON.
O Well. that would be very honorable.
understand Won 70 say that you became acquainted with