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WASHINGTON, Jan. II. 1875.
The ways and Means Committee continued the
Pacific Mail investigation to-day, wnen John b.
storm, member Of Congress from Pennsylvania,
appeared, aud testified that Congressman Randall
was mistaken In understanding him to say that
he had been approached 10 influence his vote on
the subsidy question. What he tMr. Storm
told him two years ago was in general terms,
that ne knew OF member having been
DO approached. The facts were these:-Witness
was told, about two years ago. BY Congressman
Parker, of New Hampshire, that while the vote
was being taken on the SUBSIDY amendment and
he was coming down stairs In the capitol total
stranger offered to give him $1,000 II ne would 20
back to the gallery and not vote. Mr.. Parker re-
marked TO witness that he ought TO have Knocked
the scoundrel down The stairs Witness voted
against the subsidy.
TESTIMONY OF BROOKLYN LAWYER.
Ryman Elmore, OF Brooklyn, testified lis an
attorney-atlaw; has an ofice In William street,
New York, but is in Washington about hall or each
year attending to business before the departments
for railroad companies and other clients had
never done any business for the Pacific Mail Com
pany; was never employs ed by nor received q dollar
from them; never advocated the Pacific Mall sub
sidy any The witness then, IN response TO
q question, described his connection with the pay
ment OF the $50. 900 in his ONCE by Mr.. Schumacher
to General Smith: while IN Washington, IN May,
1872, was introduced by some person whom he
does not now remember to General smith, and
met the latter OCCASIONALLY 80 that he had merely
casual acquaintance with him; one day Smith
stopped him on the street and asked him
n ne knew the New York attorney Of the Pacific
Mail Company; witness replied that he did not
know who was the company's New York attorney,
but he knew almost all the lawyers in New York;
Smith said, ''Tney are going to pay me some
money; VIII you identity me?n witness passed on
ana thought no more OF the matter I'll
three three or ionr days aiterWard w ~,,ea
aud said ne mad a check for $4,000,
TO hand to Elmore, or to some one Gilmore would
indicate; witness replied he must be mistaken,
but then remembered, and told schumacher what
whereupon Schumaker said:-"rhat's the man.
and exhibited the $4,000 check: witness re-
In check. are your" anu Schumacher then went
10 get 1t cashed; soon afterward General Smith
till Schumacher should appear, which ne did IN about
TWO houls wnereuDOn Gilmore said to Schumacher,
pay nim some money :" Mr.. Schumacher then banded
General Smith roll OF bills and lett The ONCE |;
witness witness remarked joculary 70 General smith;
General smith replied in tue same vein, II can't
divide; have TO pay TINS out" witness learned
nothing more about the transaction and lett WASH
lngton lew days aiterward; the following winter
he was Introduced by either General Ingersoll or
Congressman Connor, OF Texas, TO General Nor.
gan L. smith, and as he bore some resem.
blance to the Smith above referred To witness
supposed he was the same person aud re:
your wnskers;" does not remember what reply
pad knew nothing whatever OF General Smiths
initials, ASSOCIATIONS or history, but was now sure
more tnan likely that the person was Morgan L.
bmitn mad understood be was IN the lobby, bus
L. smith NTH for e two reasons:-Firs,. because
the latter being very hoerai man would
rnan thanks; second. because wnen witness,
the year aiterward. became well acquainted with
currence IN his once, smith manifested no knowl-
edge OF It; witness once remarked to him. Il sup
pose We will both be brought into this iuvestiga-
rion," whereat Smith expressed surprise and said
he could tell all he knew on The subject in lew
ment by cneck simply because he knew some
people were timld about taking cnecxs aud pre-
Smith IN The oroInary sense OF the term, and was
surprised tnat SO trirlng an Identification was
use OF merely because he was known TO the PaciSc
Mall COMPANY as New YORK lawyer.
CONGRESSMAN PARKER's TESTIMONY.
Hosea w. Parker. Congressman from New Hamp-
shire, being sworn, resulted that ne never was ap.
pr9acaed by ANYBODY on she SUBSIDY PSI ausson
Congressman storm, but the latter must nave
misunderstood HIM: witness had an indisiinct
recollection that when coming down the steps
from the ladies' gallery when the vote was being
taken on the subsidy. he overheard some men
taking at the foot OF the stairway. saying some
thing to the effect that congressman who did not
want TO vote Tor the subsidy need not vote at ali.
Mr.. Beck-Q. Don't you think these men were
taking at you? A. Well. that may De-doD't
knows witness was certain he never ap.
proacned by anybody In regard 10 his vote, and,
matter OF TACT, he was recorded as voting
against the subsidy every time and all the way
through.
Charles Albert reappeared and informed the
committee that he Still declined 10 answer Until
compelled by order OF the House.
Adjourned.
TIE AFTERNOON SESSION.
The Committee on Ways and Means met again
hto anfI ntf M 40
House, and examined
CHARLES ALERT.
The Chairman asked, "ro wnom did you dis
tribute the Sl06,500 belonging TO the Paclnc Mail
steamship Company according to the direction OF
Irwin Mr.. Abert read preliminary
statement explanatory or his position,
saying he found no reason TO pre-