, 1875-09-11
Bishop Hare Tells What He Knows Of
Agent 8aville's Transactions.
The Testimony Damaging to the
Latter's Reputation.
Some VERY Plain Talk Indulged lit b,
lie Reverend Witness.



have tho meeting public, IL Accordhnco With tho
request Of tho psess. Tho nnembnrn of the
Commiaslon, tu.ing tho molnspg, wore cussged
i'll read:nE for tue first limo tlIa attack uuou
Prof. Marsh prepared at tue Interior Depart
meat, aud published \. Government expeuBs,
oBtensibv for tho use OF this Comnleaion. Al
though this document hos been published for =
month. it seems unEer 10 liAye reacboff tho Com
mission until noH. This fact appears 10 furnish
Prof. s1arrb eomc Qualification for tue statement.
th,t 1t Was prof. srcd solely to injury private
citizen, and from mutIvea Of personal revenge.
BISHOP HARE,
OF Dakota, uns on tlle stand for nearly five
hou.n IN tue morning sessiou. Tho ruspopo Of
calling him was to conntm or di4proys the alcea-
tiop Of Prof. Marsh Agalnst Or. s'ayillo, tho
Episcopal Agent at Red Cloud. The drift Of
Dshop Hate's Testimony wks to confsn POT.
MAreh In his eAscptlai statement ~ to frauds in
tho purchase OF cattle on the tnr& Of saslle. and
10 strengthen tho belief In savi!lee ul.houosty,
1Iaro's testimony Was stronger from the fact
that it wnn rendered With tie EreateAt
relucsauce and that the Bishop disIlkod
to saY any1 hing which might inlGlo saYille.
Bishop Hare remembers diolinctly as prof.
Mardh charged, TINT SaylEs adnllttel Tint tho
cattle at Il. i CIoud
DID NOT EXCEED $50 POUNDS
in weight yet the Treasury records chow tl.at
say'I;o certtic tha; they We ehed luto ioand.
and tho Co csnment aid for that wclght upon
eral questions. I1c bad no 81 orsa! kuow:edge aa
! 10 the number Of tho Iud ANS ; .Lst VAS Il s.t-
| Ject about which men Gcldoul agtcc: lie had
tssa sos bad h9ss %ss ssx Ut Red s.0, Cloud d
poplos. Ho refused to make any specific charges
AGAINST Dr. sasl,le. but left the Inference iain
that he thi,ks hlm dish ,ncst. D.sno7 liAte sad
that te th"uxht the E'ihcopal church
| onCLD NO LoHoEn gE RESPONSIBLE
! for ADV Agent ors1ninR whosb ehA5tctpr 30 mauy
accuEstoss had beeu ,natle. bishop Hate was
very frank III hla expression b"fo;s the cemtnIs-
cion Of his confidence IN tho officials Of tho In
terror DEPARTMENT At Washington. uo ss.d: II
have never brought to thu sttcutiou Of the De-
pAsttnent ausp'clnaa rroceod'ag tda:
ton. All MY intersotrfc with tho IT.
terror Department officials at Washington
! hayo ucyer knovn tneU to Commit or tolerate
fraud" Ar to Agonts. he evidently aid NOS Ike
to answer. Hc had no knowiedge OF fraud on tho
patt Of any Aeant now tu sbe field. but bab
| susricions. Az to the report of Samuel Walker,
uAlo raid 10 beIcrel tt n'oat uufa1r and in fts
nnde Of inquiry contemptlhle. Lie Eaid: in
! all my e1pcnoace in :ho Indian country tho IN
| stons / have Eeen have been wholesome and
! once aaw At He'd Cloud WAS poor and inIEdsHej,
and in muddy baga.
The COMMITTEES obtained an extended ex-
preston Of oo,niou flom Bishop Hare !, to the
CONDITION AND FUTURE or THE INDIAN lAcE.
| Uo aErced With Congressman Harris. Of the
Colnmlssion, thAt under tlo present system 1t is
difficult for An Agent tU perform hla dutY u tho
Guyo nmeut. Haro said an Agent VINO would re.
! stat the corrupt tentatlGns Of tho country
nou1d To bravo lnllcod. nlr. Hhs1is, Of tho
| Commission, fa,oIs changing the method Of
supl living cAttie. lie thinks tho Government
Should have its own liora end s.ockades,
67t1 t,rf thf $t,IFt 14txfr
for immediate dist1nution. Bishop Hare had
nomo vory docsd' oansons IN to tue relation Of
the Government to ths Indians. lIe said the
Government ought to
| TArE ,onE DECIDED MEASURES
to make tue indians ceme to terms 11e would
dol'rivo them Of TODD until They agreed. Tho
whele led C1 ,ud hsory, 10 said. as ba warmed
With bis theme and forget his discretion, ..s \
srn treated tho worst. Tho Agents ara atsail to
retusa the Iudsaue anything. Tho uostrument
i'asn is timli;, Turning to tho comm'a-
s!o1er Of 1ndisn Aaaits pishop uaro
little simid Mr. CommisAtoner. think
tho Peesdopt Ia tittlo timid, aud hare said 80
to him. would invoke the aid Of the military to
colnpal obedience, and staryo tdo Indians to suh-
| mission. Tiers sAoull DO uore poeitiycaoss in
tue management OF Indian aaAirs. There should
bo judicious emn!oYment Of force. TAere Is
no law for the 1ndans. There should 30 some
thiag done besiuea feeding them. Tue Indians
| 6Aou!u 10 Ita Al l0ulfluu2!6, uot A3 tflbta-
Ss9fs":"'' Ssssf'" should never receive pound Of
Hare condemned tho invasion Of tho DIsck
Hills BY Custer ~ a lamentablo violation OF
treaty lights, and srols outrage Of the Mar Do
Special Mspa:eh to The Chftsoo Tribune.
Tho Investigation has cAused . great deal OF
bad blood: Secretary Dcnno met Prof. Marsh
language usod WAS scandalons. It nut known
who was tho sggteasof, but it Is evident that the
interview was uadignihcd aud vulgar.
| t7o ~ Assoesated ftsss.l
WARRINGTON, bepf. lU-1le lied Cloud Iuvoa-
tigasng Commission To-day heard = Bsascnsnt
from DIahop liaro IL relation 10 Ills knowledge
ot conducting huslnesa sna.rs: Commissioner
of-1nd!nn.Ansife Smith and Prof, Mareh woro
sloner 6ml,h that they wero ready to examine
such Witnesses ~ might bo designated, but the
Commissioner eaid shat 10 far ~ tle witnesses
Oh Ills aide wore concerned he p1efsrEed IL nAt
to say. Sec, staty DeiAno. notwithstanding
Consn. Commissioner Smith. and Samuel Walk.
| ef viii appear before the Com mission.
THE GRAND COUNCIL.
RKp CLoUD AGENCY, Mob, Sept 1o.-TLut
fAr nothing OF consequence has boon douo by
tue Indian Commission, though meetings. srs
hhld every forenoon. The following p1omiuen
Indsn Chiefs arc horos Biou1--Ited Cloud
lted Dog. Little Wound. Man-afsatd.of hts
1Io!se, Conquered Dehr, Black Hear, Rod Loaf
rawnes Killer, WLito Cow-Kil'er. Yellow Hair
aud No Water. Choyennos-no Nose, Llt..t
Wolf, Turksy-Leg. and Calfsain Shirt. Asapa.
hoes-Dlack Coal. Six Wings. ManY-&-BoaF, and
Rharp Nose. Bill Rowland, the interpreter ful
tho Cheyenoes aud Arapahoes, ls bore. Ha eaJi
that tho matter Of tho treaty las beau tbo oubloct
| every day OF consultation Amo1r tho indians
tbAt wAile there in considerable difference smong