The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-15

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Q. That's an answer 10 my question, MI. Beecher.
! called your attention. understand yoS 50 say
snas tue nrst statement Dy Mr. honlten Wa read
correctf A. thought you expressed a judgment 20
me- s,r beg pardon.
shape Of an Interrogation; am correct In sup
posing you stated IN your direct examination That
you read over the frat statement OF Mr. Moulton
A. No sir; did not read IL over
q Or that II was read to you A IL was read Ia
Q. And what did you say when your Judgment
was asked In regard To IL A. | said very little,
slr; very little my Judgment was not asked IN de.
O. Wen, you gave IL In bulk, did your A.. gave
an answer 70 his inquiry.
It exactly; but II was whetnerI thought that That
was an honorable and proper statement TO make;
as you have and replied that ne could Judge as
well rs |, or that ne must determine by his own
sense 81 honor and good Judgment.
Q, Well didn't you say something approbarorE
oIltY "A. don't think did.
presence OF Mrs. Mcutons A. did not. -
Y. You made no objection to IT. A. made no
Mr.. Fullerton-I will read It, and then ask You
some questions with regard to 1t. After reading
to you. how long had the Bacon letter been pub ,
lished A. don't know that that paper was read
q. Wen, what is your best Judgment on the sub
Ject A. paper was read TO me-.
z. / didn't ask you that A. But whether Ii
was that paper or part OF it can't say.
Q What is your best Judgment upon the sub
completed probably alter the substance 0: il was
read to me. but that is only suppositon.
2. Well, don't ask you TO indulge Ia supposl-
tons, Mr.. BeeCher. A. You asked me my best
Q. asked you your best opinion whether it was
read TO YOU A. Parts OF that paper recollect but
i cannot affirm ~ was all read
o. Can you afirm IL was noti A. cannot.
that is the paper read TO YOUR A. / can't recall.
Q. WHAT Is your best Judgment A. That part
OF the paper was read 10 me, possibly the whole;
o. well, when whatever paper 1t was was read
70 you, how long mad tue Bacon letter been pup,
q. DO you recoect The date OF the publication
OF the Bacon letterf A. No, slr; don't recall 1t.
Q. Well IL was long prior to this 7 A. That
Q. We'll, it was prior to any statement before the
committee 7 A. Yes OF course, but caunot give
dates without refreshing my memory
Mr.. Evarts-May 25.
o. You read the Bacon letter. didn't your A. I
Q. Anybody read it to your A. Iheard state.
mcnt oil It's contentsf
January II A. was told It did
.. Were you told the form IN which IL was
quoted A. was told that there was an extract
from That memorandum or Mr.. Mouton in It.
Q. Who told you OF ~ A. nave forgotten
or who it was; was In conference az that timo
with several gentlemen, but dons recall which
o. DID YOU nave a statement OF It's contents; OF
the contents OF tho Bacon letter A. the drifh
or substance OF IL. .I
o. VINO made out that substance A. didn't
Q. / thought You did. Did You learn In what
form tnis letter OF January j was quoted In the
Bacon letter. A. Only that there was portion
OF IL. - .
Not by reading it.
o. Did you learn the form OF a portion OF it, A.
o. You knew TO what reference was made, did
you not in this first statement OF M0ulton's In
this express on, ~ hold tonight, as have held
Ateh hat MF
frankly state that ne mad committed an offence
against Mr.. Triton Tor which IL was necessary to
wpIon has been quotedr A. don't recoect to
have heard that sentence, sir.
q. Now, Mr.. Beecaer, Wnen did you first hear or
this letter OF January /, 1917 A. You mean alter
o. Your hands A. 1t never left my hands.
q. oh, wei, IT'S not worth While 10 pay upon
words A. know, but
YoU CORNER NE so MANY TIMES
o. on, no; you need not be afraid. Well, It len
your house? a. After tnat time don't recall Sec
ing Il Sn ist nsver saw ns sd room u0'o
q. Well on the subject OF having left your
hands, did You never have ~ In your hsndsr A.
DON'T think ever did, sir; had my hands on IL,
n you Will not THINK am trinng; signed AZ, OF
course, and mad to touch it.
q: What did you do with 1t when you signed II
o. Didn't hand IL 10 Mr.. Moulton when your
hands left IT, A. Yes. U.aughter.D
O. When did you next see ltS A. In the court
room wnen IL was presented IN evidence.
q Vnen did you next near OF III A. | think II
@ And from. whom did you hear OF its A. From
Mr.. Tracy.
o. Had he then seen ity A. Icanit say.
o. Did he give you what purported 10 be its con-
tentsg A. No, he didn't recite Its contents; did
not recite the substance OF IL.
q. Pass IRON that, then, TO the next occasion
when you heard OF ~ rom any other person. A.
Wen. them am confused about tnat; don't
when next heard oft; heard II rumored that
there was q paper IN exlstencs that was very
or its form; the only time mat ever heard oil IL
with any dlstIncrncss that recall was rom Moul-
ton himself; that was Immediately alter MIR.
Tracy's visit Of which have spoken.
q pa nc show u 10 your A. No, sir: he said ir
vas burned up t1as was cav OF TWO after naa
NAV have been as early as '73; don't recall, sir,
anything or IL again until heard there was TO he
az extract from II in card proposed TO be printed
BY Mr. Triton, about June OF 1878.
q Did you,see the extracty A. ! did not
Q. DO you know IN what form or shape 1t was'
o. Pass. then, to the next occasion ron heard or
1t. A. heard IL stated what the substance OF Il
o. From whom A. From Mr.. KlnseIa, when
he came 10 see me ON Monday morning, the "a OF
June.
o. Did he state the substance OF 1t to your A. I
don't know tnat ne stated the substance, but ne
stated the driit Oiit.
o. Didn't ne give you q copy Of lit a. No, SIR.
q DID he nave copy OF TT A. Not that know
O. Did be state to you In what form It was
wflttens A. On no; ne didn't enter into CONVEX.
safion In that form.
O. Now, nave you named 10 me all you ever
learned ia regard 10 that paper up 10 that timeg
A. | don't know that have.
q. Now, Mr.. Beecher, tax your recollection, be.
cause 10 Is important. IL you have omitted 10
state any Information you derived In regard TO
this letter or memorandum, any time witnln the
umi.s inquired OF want you now 10 state it
A. DONE recall IL, sir, except tue statements
male 10 me BY Mr.. tracy, winch have given !;
then should say the next was Mr.. Clanln, VINO
inquired OF me ABOUT 10; the next was mT brother,
Euward Beecner. who also inquired Of IT, but gave
me no Information: think the next alter the
publication OF the Bacon letter learned from Mr..
John Russell Young, OF the NEW YORK HERALD.
o. Wnen was that? A. That IN sum-
mer OF 1874, probably in July, but WON'T Do post.
o. Did you learn then Its contentsi A. / did
. Dldn't you see a copy OF 1t them A. l did
not
q. Well had you never up TO that time learned
IT. contentsf a. | mad learned from Mr., Tracy
what was the drIt OF II.
Q. the drIlt, but not its contents9 A. Not 10
detail.