New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-13
A MEMORANDUM OF THE CONVERSATIONS.

Mr. Beach-Mr. Wilkcson, upon your direct exam
nation you give far you then recoccted
the precise language Of Mr. Tton. A. Yes Sir the precise
language. and the language In effect.
O. No. the precise language far recoeeted the
precise language, is my question: A. Yes, Sir.
O. you upon your examination, in giving the
language you recoccted that you varied in any par
cuars from narration which you gave your direct ex-
animation A. aware, Sir that did, may have done
O. How can that be- Sir you gave the precise language at
| both times,
Mr. Evarts-Dont reason with the witness.
The Witness Sir it exceedingly difficult for me at
least to repeat conversation twice iii precisely the same
| terms.
O. suppose so It is for anybody. A 1t is for anybody Mr.
| Beach
O. But to you have undertaken to give the pre-
| else language positively, haven't you! A. Yes Slr
O. And you have assumed to do both upon INC urec anu
| crosse Examination. you said' A. Yes Sir.
O. How do you account for variations thefc are any III re-
aon to the particular expcssion' A The inherent In
trinity OF human memory.
@ Then from the inherent infrmy OF human memory you
may have varied from the precise language when
dertake to give It, A. In words but not in effect
O. All yes I'm words but in effect; that H. IN effect as
yon understand #, A. In effect all understand it.
O. Oh no; all men don't understand what you have been
saving here A. All men who have heard me do.
O. How, A. All who have heard me do. Mr.. Beach.
No they dom understand be the effect Of the precise
Isnage you heard that is where you have given the effect
OF the language you have given according to the best OF your
recollection! According to the best Of my honest belief
Sir under oath.
O. Yes yet by, OF the inhrmy OF recollection
YOU may possibly be mistaken A. In mmaeral words
NAV be mistaken may change words, but the ideasthe
ideas do not change.
O. The ideas that were impressed upon your mind you
meant A. Yes Sir
O. But not ecoectng the precise words 1t not Impossible
that you may have derived an imperfect idea Is it, No. Sir
O. Did you make any memorandum OF these conversations
did make memorandum Of his conversation OF the morn
ing Of April
O. OF the morning OF April 81 A. Yes, Sir.
@ Where that memorandum? A. 1t is at my Office, at
No % Fifth ave
O. Well would be great qualification to us if you could
produce 1t. A. | can't produce ii now.
O. No, Of Will you produce 1t on the next meet
ing Of the Court, A will, il find it, suppose can
find it.
O. Is it in ink or pencil' A. Ink.
O. Do you rccoect any OF the phrases Of that memoan
DUNN A. A general statement
O. No. no; asked you II you recoected any OF the
phrases Of that memorandum That he said that he never
would
O. Well, won't you A. Yes Sir; do; I do rccoect;
yes, Sir.
O Very we'll Idont ask what is in it; it is proper for
me to ask what Is in it, A. Yes
@ You recolec the phrases Do you recoect the
concluding phrase OF the memorandum A. The concluding
phraseS ] do recollect the concluding phrase.
Or any part OF the concluding words, A. The concluding
wods Icannot say do recoect part Of the concud
ING words The vital part Of the memorandum in my mind
can give you, IL you want it.
would rather have the memorandum, with your pardon
That il made upon an ordinary sheet Of paper A Upon half
sbee OF fooscap paper made within ten minutes after he left
the Office.
O. About what length was it-sh' A. page OF foolscap
O Covering the whole pager A Pretty much the whole
page -
give nd two lines bottom. il you please, Mr. Beach
WHY didn't You bring IL with you, A. IL didn't occur to
me I am inexperienced somewhat in giving testimony In
Court It's the second time in my life that have ever been
nm the witness stand did not occur to me that 1t was
sary to dot.
ba, this-I felt that this thing going drift into great
judicial contest Sir and felt the importance VI making that
memorandum
When did that feeling supervene did it occur, A.
II occurred within fifteen minutes after he laid down on
table the proof Of the article called the Personal State
ment which he threatened TO publish in the next number OF
The Gsen Age IL Mr. Beecher did not do MIN justice.
O Well that vas on March -? A. Tha, was March 70
Did you make any memorandum OF the conversation Of
March ~ A. No. Sir only treasured II in my memory
O. Yes Well if you had this apprehensye feeling upon that
OCCASION why did you make any distinction between the i'm
portance Of conversations in making Memorandum
of the morning OF the I'd of April felt to be critical
Critical Now will you please give that conversation,
Ne told that wanted copy OF his portion OF the Tr
n.rtc Agreement" He sad that he going TO Sign IT, He
.ad that Mr. Bowen had been well taken Of by Mr. Ca
and Mr. had well taken Of by but ha. he
had not Of by bOdy bat left out in the
cold and the money that due him from Bowen
to be paid to him.
O. Is that all A. And he would not sign any agree
ent should prohibit him from pursuing Henry
Ward Beecher
Ia that ali OF IL A. That is all Of IT, until handed him
eopy of his portion Of the "Trpartite Agreement"
O Well anything that said at that interview please state
Il lie stated at interview that Mr Bowen going
IN nav him money that due to him. aud that the suit
would have 10 90 on
O. Yes WE'LL anything else saa at that interview A That
about all, Sir.
O Are you that at that time arbtrators had been
agreed upon A. No, Sir; wait moment.
o This April 3ri, at II o'clock A. II. A. Yes Sir
knew the arb;raors been agreed upon yes srI
that thH had been agreed upon.
O How you understand the suit go il arbltra.
tors had been appointed A didn't understand tha<-that
the suit was 10 go on
O You say shat he told you that the suit would to 20
on, A. That is all he told me that had other knowl
edge OF it than that.
O. Well you understand it from him then A. Only from
him.
o. And yet knew the timo that mbtrators had
appointed A. had heard that they were appointed
O. Do you happen have heard that the night OF April
81 abaors had only been appointed but had made
an award A. No, Sir had not.
@ Had not heard that' A. No. Sir