, 1875-02-09
NUMBER ITO.


What led to that A.-Dosen naid to mo that,
In view Of my receuty-formed contracts to
write for the I'.aercndent, to become oditor
OF e would ,dfo0fy pt g"'" nv With. ss hs r., hoped
iro into tie Brooklyn Union, thai would t1sst @
all tue Brooklyn topics with great particyiartty.
and TINT would mako among them ora conspic-
nous ' addition, namely: Plymouth Church and iii
its AFFAIRS for he said that church lad 4 large
congregation. Many Of tho renders Of tho linton
we're tllero. And he then Haid: ~ notice th.s
you have not givcn particular attention TO tho
been noticel by mo- t told him that neysr,
again should croaa the threshold Of plymoutIa
Church.
the conversation, wasns he? Al think ia
was, aud shen. In aomo auch remark ~, "ptr-
hals ar lilspn has eomn reason for not goi ne
70 flymonth Church at hl3 1vsnts Mr. john
eon made soma remarks about reAaons vhif,h
Church.
Q.-Now, did the matter 20 on then On Mr.
lao"ghd Esst aites that observation Of youra7
A.-I doht thlnk very much was said until hIr.
.'ohnson loft, when Ar. bowen nut some oues-
ton to mo to know why it raa didn't 20 10
Plymouth Church.
Q.~When did Mr. bowen, co.umencino. .t,tn
his accusations or imputations against III.
Deecher Al can't re0ember exactly at what
part OF tho conversation he did. Some Of thona
were 6tatel before Mr. johnson went ava
others we're stated after.
Q.-What did you say after he had co7up,etcd
bis accusations against Mr. BeecLcr3 AT
don't think he completed them- I think be kept
reite.ating them.
Q.-Wheu lie had got through with thom for
the arst time what did you say +? A.-You moan.
what said at any particular moment. dun's
identify wlat said at any particular moment
Q.-What was said at any ttn1e by ypu3 A.
A1r. Bowen Haa very solicitoos to know Of ma
what Slr. Beechers relations had been to Mra
Tlton. aud asked-
uQ.-Aftor Dir. johnson had gone avaya A.
M MiF Hff Aw f1kr Ill
had said before 1lr. Johnson went away that aIr.
leecher bad been guilty OF dlshouor7ble behavior
towarua sfra. Tilton.
Q.-Wbon did the suggestion Of tho prepara-
tton Of this letter Of demand Mr. Bsccher
como up7 Al think that came up in Mr,
Bowen'a private conversation with mo 1t thu
close Of that interview.
(Which suggested it, he OF you : A.-Bora-
Ollie suggested IT. A.-Yes; he Bald tfr.
Boecl,er ought not to be allowed to preach in hia
church.
Q.-WhAt did he say? A.-Mr. Bowen rA1d.
allowed 10 1onaln IN the pulpit, OF 10 this city,
He ought to bo driven out Of 1t, Mr.. Dowon
then said that hc could take 20 steps to saEda
That, because be had III tho pravious
February. received from 5lr. Beecber
huniilisting confession Of hla guilt
md that Mr. Bowen hsd given him pardon, AIr,
Bowen Lad atatea that if would make the.
demand be would aubetantiate 1t, and wonid
bring volume OF evidences with which he pro-
posed to SEQ 1t carried into execution.
Q.-Aow, he having 60 sisted. how did you
gtvo your eonson. to aeting in tbs manner which
! he auggesteaf Al said "diyo me ten and
hheot Of paper, and will write IT,
Q.-Was the original draft, inoluding tho
s; smenauont ssne l.. in =, youz hsudwrtlngf A-Yos.
Q.-When you gave this lettsr to Bowen. vsa
the envelope closed OR sealed' Al think 1t
HaA open.
~ II rvS- IL
and taken by him to bs Carried a. IN open letter
to Nj. Beochor7 A.-That is my recollection.
Mr.. Eyarts read:
DEC. 2e, 1870, Bnook1rn-HxsRr WAND prrcsxa
rlctsy understand, you immediately eease from sbe
ministry Of the Plymouth Church. Ind that you qu.e
{sianet) TuEopoax Tnron.
Q.-You signed it jointly ]? A.-Yes, sir.
BowEN'a CHANGE OF MIND.
With ro1ete1ce to subsequent interview with
Q.-Toll ua the first word OF that intaryiow. A.
Il don't know tho first thing.
Q::-Do you know who spoke first A-No,
don't. hlr. bowen was in q great state Of axcite-
mcnt. Ills face waB white ~ = wall.
Q.-Do you moan to say, On reflection, that not
a word was said about the delivery to Mr. psech-
or ana h1B reception Of this note Al remem-
Der sho ssostsace ,,t Of t ras, that il daxa!sod
lad against Mr. 1oscher lie (Bouen) would close
NIL his relations with ulc, and that neYer again
should cross tho threshold Of the olNco or his
house. lie said it witt great emphasis.
Q.-And llo left without giving you an oppor-
tunity to Bay anything? Al think the sub
stance OF 1t was 10 return prido for pride, scorn
for scorn-ilat I would not be dotorred BY hH
threat from telling Mr. Deocher or any other
person, by tho fear Of the denunciation or auy
man.
Q.-And you had no curiosity abous the de-
livery .: the note or ita reception? Al lAAd a
Q.--Wby did You not ask bt1. Douen2 A.
Because hs was not tie man to aak questions Of
at that time. Ho vent out Of tho Office md
slammed tue door.
Dcocher, and sent Mr. Bowen to deliver 1t to
Baecher. what was your object III sending II,
and what result did you oxpect from sending it?
A.-My object wss to strike lin right to tho
heart,
Q.-What result did you expect A.-Thatis
would prick mud wound him as he Asa been.
Q,-You did not expect that ho would be driven
from ths pnlNit or from Dtookfyn2 A.-ies.
did; aud 1io will be.
THE EFFECT or THIS ANSWER.
The witness ultcrel thia grave prediction With
the solennlty OF prophet. Doecher and Lit
had slone staring ut tho peopio most interested,
the audience laughed too. Eyarts proceeded to
Q.-yoa thought that, from delivery Of that
pulpit, md from D1ookyn7 A..-Mr. Bowen
said he could be driven out Of 4is pulpit in
tWolve hours.
Q.-You believed then, he would do IT. A.
thought A1r. Doweu would do it.
Oily this mothod7 Al did think by this.
a1r. Bowau said, ho would drive him out of Lis
pulpit In twelve huuru.
Q.-Aud you bolioycd IT. A.--Yes. sir.
Q.-And you together aont ~ y0ur joint Aot
this letter. A.-les sir, We did,
Q.-And you expected that result from 1t? A.
Yes, AiE, did.
Q.-WLen you 1aturned to your house that
day, did you cxhible excitement I Il leave out
ull reference nuw to any interview or Intercourse
with your wifo.) AL don't remember that
sir.
Q.-You don't remember being excited In con-
sequence Ut this lntoryiew with Bowen? A.
don't remember Of being In my house, air.
Q.-Did you, At your house on that day, after
others than your wife, that you were ruined
A. tsharplyI No, sir; did not.