The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1875-04-08

| .O.HSinOSI, CAM say &Dout the time OF the
introduction; have known him so loro il
seems as if I've known him always. since
H. have been in Brooklyn. O.
Wnat was his age and position in
Iiie at the time that you knew him ?
l can not say what his age was. He was ex-
ore1ely youthful and of an engaging manner
anu very comely appearance, and one
whose address know won nav sympathy
from the hr5t. @ Now, from that time. in
wnat cause and in what degree did you come
10 De associated with HIM in intercourse or
employment! A. saw him great deal.
fore 1860, because he had Transferred
| his relations from the Observer
10 the Independent. Then used to ee him
AFTER that several times week when I vas
IN town. q. In connection with the indie
pendentY a. In connection with the In
dependent. Q. And how were vour
personal relations? A. Very cordial
q. On both sides? A. On both sides. o.
How much were you and he In the habit of
conierripg together with regard to your
common interests, or discussing common
| purposes? A. He was witty and amusing
M cow rsation. and l always cbatted with
him On such matters before, but / didn't go
ltto what may be called very
close personal relations until / as
sum "a ire management OF the paper
In Iool, and thereafter, for two years or three
we were together nearly every dav. @. And
was his intimacy of partnership, as we'll
as OF common interests and employmertg
a. 1t was not only common employment
and coIapaniopship, but downright loving
on ny part. .. During al this tine how
soon dld you become aware of any desire or
purpose Of his 10 succeed You in the Inde-
pendent? A.
sCcCEED Oh sUPERs8DE.
G. Succsede a. DON'T know. Bot have
an impression that 1t was his desire that
he should sapersede rather thsn that ne
shosld not succeed. @. And You so en-
pressed it? A. Yes. @. And when did you
first aegin to plan and prepare for that posi-
ton for him? r.. It WIS in 1868, sir.- Q. A
that time WAS ne definitely and publicly
known as associate editor? A Yes. sir; it
was oneAof the conditions when L agreed to
take the paper THAI he was to be nov associ-
ate. .. Made by your A. Yes, sir O.
w ben ann how wab the arrangement made
by which you were TO decline the place en-
tire!y in bSs favor? A. When that propesi-
ton to send me TO Europe came I'D,
my church WaS DESTROYS that
should go, but it was necessary that
should have the consent Of Bowen, with
whom l had a contraCtiat that time, and an
arrangement was mace between Bowen ana |
myself by which was TO give up to him |
certain vested rights With reference to thas |
paper, and vas to hsSe the liberty OF abb
sence on condition of correspondence
with 1t and then also since we were
= pieaAing up the old arrangement,
I entered into one by which i agreed if Til I
I on would take my placspn mp return, and i
carry on the rsper for year. nv absence
being kind OF probationary period for /
L wouRd allow my name to stand |
a year as nominal editor,, after which |
ae was tc~ continue as ed /
itor under his own name |
D And you withdrew, you continued to
have such contracts as yea, mentioned for |
literary services. ~. Yes. @. Bat you did |
terminate your relations as editor? A. Yes.
.. This, then, was aboatlS6S and 1864
A. Yes, sir. L returned IN the autumn of
1863, and was only nominal editor in 1864,
though l had the right at any time in 1864 to
put what | chose into the paper, edit
orally. Q. Now, prior to this
e1se b Mr; Bsecher, ..i had there here
T-lton and yourself had come into some
or collision in p,Fbliedebste A.
Yes, sir, in 1860. Q-.What was that occa-
s1onE A. The occasion was the question in
Plymouth Church, whether we would con-
n fasteners for foreign missions. A
dsbate / think of three days and
which terminated 1. thinks by a general
meeting in the church. don't know of
bat two nights in the lecture room and |
tAird in the church, but that,is not impor-
teRt. @. Was 1t an occasion of publicity and
interest? A. Yes; ] can give you a brief Is
statement If you desire. a. The general \
point in the controversy was-what? A. The i
general point in the. controversy was
Ihet her Plymouth Church,. which had sig {
called its devotion, TO tins anti-slaverysl
cause, should contribute to the American
Missionary Association exclusively, which
was TN anti slavery society, or should divide
It's contributions between that society and
he American Board, which was accused Of
81 Trim
Use 70 an animated discussion among oar
people, and L did not, speak on the subject
during the time it was in the lecture room,
bat did in the church, and vas replied to by
Elton. q. And on that occasion there
was considerable antagoBism between you
md Tilton in views and their expression?I I
A. Yes, sir, but nothing transcribed what
see here in court at all lIaughter.l fhereI
was perfectly kindly feeling expressed,
sometimes rather positively. lRs2ewed
aughter.l Q. Now on shis question which !
side were you On, and which side IilLion? !
A. Tlton was in favor Of throwing over the
American board, .andI was in favor of main
aiming the right of my people to contribute
70 it il they wanted to. @. And had your
society habit of contributing to that? IA
That was the old standing board with Us.
but it was through nay grace and favor thst1
he other one ever got its ears inside
he church., for it was a
most unpopular thing at the time
20 pay cent pecnniarily for abslition bur-
poses. Beach-Phe old standing board was
Beecher alleged. it to be. IL
Evarts--Q. And Tilton was On the other IA
tide for exclusive contributionfY A. Ldon't ,
hink the de bate was upon that, sir, al
hougb, of course, that would be tina moral I
effect. If l reeollect Alright, Tlton confnea !
himself to showing that the American /
BOARD was in completely With slavery.
hink that was the drift Of his argumezt.
}. The matter was debated between you
md himS A. Yes, sir. O. What
4. TIE vote was in favoa of sustaining the
board, though both OF the socie-
les were beneficaries oSthe church. and the !
tate of things was not TO be affected. by the
zote of the church thea had u pom it, q. Just
Is it had been, for the purpose was 10 cut off
he beneht and the nesoluticn was to per-