The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-14


OH the most of the taking. ana She IN her prac-
tca nclsive, earnest way, gave me some state
Q. what was that statement 7 a. cannot
give t.
tine substances; the substance was that her daugn-
ter had lyed life OF great unhappiness: that she
ana thai her life WIN Iilton mad become IN
tolerabe u her, ans that she had come 10 the con-
cluslOn 10 separate from him.
e. what did she say the cruelty consisted OF 7
A. cannot say.
Q. Did sne say the cruelty consisted OF blows or
words A. don't know tnat she charged him
with having struck her.
o. can you recall what she said with respect to
the nature OF the cruelty? A. Violence or temper
that ne failed to be good provlder Tor her lam.
q. give us the particulars: we win take the range
ourselves a. would be glad to recall the par
q. Make an effort. A. / VIII endeavor to do so.
Y. In that conversation did not Mrs. Morse say
unbecoming wife ? A don't recollecI any such
language
Keeper A. cannot say whether heard anything
ABOUT the ho7sekeeper on tnat occasion or alter
O. what did Mrs Tilton say on that occasion
| A. she said very little.
q. What was that ike A. IL was accusa-
q. What dld she say A. don't recollect
single sentence that she spoke; Mrs. Morse was
@. WHAT was the subject OF conversation at that
interview A. Iney wanted advice nom me.
z. On what suoJectY A. on the subject OF per-
4 petuaung the separation that had begun; that IS
/ all can recall OF the conversation.
z. Did you remain IN the room with them
throughout the interview? A. 1 aid; as 10 the
extent OF the interview ! don't thiuk II exceeded
4. Did YOU believe what Mrs. Morse told you
A. Yes.
Q. And what Mrs. Tilton told you A. The I'M
/ presslon on my mind was that they had told the
/ truth; suppose Delieys III.
! q. Did not that impression amount TO the dig
nifty OIL Dehefy A. Not 10 absolute certainty; wnen
hear one SIDE OF story judge 81 IL by It's prooa-
plltes, and II Is an approximate belief
z. Did you predicate any ADVICE TO what you
hau heard A. Yes tnat she should my VIE,
VINO was much better adviser domestic
q. Did sne see your wife ? A. Yes, the next day;
don't know what passed at mat interview; !
by Mrs. aorse or MIS-. lliton.
q. what occurred as tne result OF tnat inter,
prayed with them; We also concluded to go nome
! and tai the matter over aud decide upon what
advice should give them.
q. You did go 10 them alerY A. Yes; my wife
went aloue we talked the matter over more or
relations, sac lnchning. from what had oeen told
her to behave tnAt Mrs. Tllton ought not to con-
matter OF some considerable interchange OF views
between US. put at the last moment, when sne
was about 10 60 sue asked me what mS last word
was; there was company IN the room ana wrote
on a little scrap VI paper and handed 1t to ner.
Q. inns IS what you wrote, Il am inclined to
THINK that your view is right, and That separa-
llon, with settlement anu support, was tue
wlsest ~ A. rnat is it, think-a part ofi1
Morse had tod her vita regard to Gnis Disagree
mentY A. don't tank mS vile told me the de-
tails; know she did not Tell me the details OF her
conversation with Mrs. Iiton; gave my advice
Tor tue separation on account OF what Mrs. Morse
had told me the previous DAY aud my wues judg-
ment.
O. And you acted on your wlle's judgment with
out gettlng all tue facts winch that Judgment
was preaIcated A. did III very considerable
degree; mad very great confidence IN her judg-
ment on sncn things.
q How long had you been acquainted with Mr.
Tlitonf A. some twelve or fifteen years tnink.
o. Before giving that advice you hadn't seen
/ A..
municate with MN III any way.
gEEcHER AND MRS. TILToNs INTIMACY.
o. WAT degree OF intimacy mad existed be-
tween AIRS. Beecner and Mrs. 1Iton up 10 that
timer 4. No great intimacy; they we're on
.. HAD mrs. Beecher been in the habit OF visit
ing Mrs Tlton at ner houseS A. Her health was
sucn that sue could visit but little anywhere.
q. HAD Mrs. 1llton been IN the haolt OF visiting
Mrs. BeecnerS A. Yes; she called upon her sew
eral times; can't say That sae visited her IN 1870
| or 1859; 1 can't give any uate 10 any ol her
visits; have no record OF The time; can't say
that Mrs. Beecher hau visited Mrs hilton within
three years prior To this interview at ner house.
SHARP CROSS ExAMTsATIoN.
"That is not an answer to my question Mr..
Beecher,n said Mr.. Fullerton. with painful
aceroity The mass OF listeners thought tue wit.
ness had given q reasonably direct answer. 1t
was plain that counsel intended this should be no
rosewater inquiry. blu: q terribly cold-blooded
nqul sitlon.
U You had some conversation with Mrs. Tilton
at the house at tuls tImeY A. Yes.
O. Do you recollect giving her counsel as TO
bearing ano continuing patientf A. l recollect
saying TO her that thought, with the blessing OF
God, sue woul be able 70 bear up yet; sne was
i. DID you say this to her. 'Let patience have
her perfect workr A. 1 don't remember that
die.
Mr. Fullerton (readlnR)-"I have q recollection
OF only one single thing said 70 Mrs. 1llton when
you anu you never alluded 10 me about tue dis.
Iress N your housenodf' and sac said she con-
ceaied II because she thought lt would pass
away: gave her counsel, telling her to Ieise
patience. and sald. Let patience nave ner per-
lect work. and joined with her in prayer;n Is
that trueY A. That Is true.
Y. That was alter you heard what Mrs. Morse
had saldf A. Yes, SIR; and what was said the
next day.
4. Aud Notwithstanding that advice you the
I next day cOunselied separattonY "A. l did
q VIII nov call your attention TO Mrs. Morse's
letter treadng)-"i did not tninT for moment
when asked Mrs. D. as 20 your call there sun.
posing sne knew il, OF course, and SAID you
would not go there without ner;n do you know
read further, II was innocent OF making auy mis-
understanding, II there was anyG" A. ! do not
recall what II meant
A PIVOTAL POINT
| seemed TO be reached. The witness apprenended
1t. he called for a satchcl OF ms containing q
memorandum, and taking IT out at the same mo-
ment as counsel took ~ q letter or Mrs. Morse's,
began TO ousy himself with It's pages. The letter
was shown nim:-"ls that memorandum on the
back in your hand writlnRi" IL think not; part
oft - IN Mr. MoultUns and part Of 1t Is In mine
and both look bad enough Counsel was aiming
to make II appear that the witness, in place OF
recommending Mrs. Tilton to separate from her
husband was ADVISING o contrary course, but the
witness put In q non mi ricordo plea and nothing
was gained.
Q. Does Mrs. Morse there refer 10 Mrs. Beeoherf
A. presume So
q. Had you ADVISED Mrs. Morse TO keep quiet as
10 any call Of yours upon Mrs. TltonS A. 1 don't
recolect; never asked ner 10 be quiet concern
ing any call " nine.
q. Can you not explain her language in this re-
spectf A. l cannot.
z. You don't understand IL as referring TO the
call made IN pursuance 81 the communication by
MIS-. Morse through Bessie Turner TO the call by
you AND Mrs. Beecher on the following dayf A. 1
don't understand any part OF Mrs. MOrses letter.
q. The letter OF AIRS. Morse got into the hands
OF Mr.. Mouliong A. Yes; IL got to him; / either
sept IL to MIN or carried IL mYselL
q. Are you aule ~ state IRON your Endorsement
when II was received ~ you or when II was sentY