The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-07-03

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| did not want TO be taken ike babies 10 see tneir
MAJ on some Gays we only took eight ballots.
scrlbed Juryman Fate as not having more brains
tnan an ordinary pigeon. what do you think OF
Mr.. HALsTEAD-The paper which ventured 70
speak like taat OF Mr.. Fate made a great mistake.
/ large amount OF the evidence He is not an old
/ grayDeard, being but twentyfour years old. and
the youngest man on the Jury. Well, TO resume
WE WOULD SPLIT UP INTO SQUADS
during the day or night ana try ana argue with
our opponents. ana would test our work by
ba lot. Every man among us took pride In the
idea that we might possibly arrive at q solution,
bur we were doomed to disappoin tment.
REPoKrER--Do you think ali your number were
open 10 conviction and voted fairly ana honestly
according to what they belevedS
Mr.. HALsrEAD-Yes believe every man voted
eonsclentousy and tried 10 discuss the evidence
REPoRTER-DId you ma the printed books OF
evidence furnished YOU by the Court or much use
Mr.. HALsTEAD-Yes, great deal, and we all
thought that # we had had them earlier IN the
proceedings We should have agreed upon q YER
dlc. or disagreement IN halt the time. We
asked, You may remember, for some letters
through M. DAVIS on the second day; but by
the agreement Of Court ana counsel they were
| reused US. You may remember we a % asked for
some portions OF the Judges charge, anu this
REPoRrKR-You had rows or fights, hope.
Mr.. HALsTEAD-No not by any means; have
contracted several friendships since was locked
up.
REPORTER Would YOU have been more comfort
able in hotel, do you think, than you were in the
County Court HOuseY
Mr.. HALsTEAD-lt might have been better and
II might have been worse. II we had been placed
in hotel we should doubtless have had 10 sleep
SIX In a room, on the top noor, winch would not
have been over and above agreeable, and the heat
! might nave been horrible. 1t was bad enough In
tue jury room where we were, Heaven knows.
REPoRTER-How did you sleep at night
Mr.. HALsTEAD-We, l had Irish overcoat
frieses tank you call tnem, and rug, 30 was
not ~ be ptled. There was only one mattress In
our quarters up to last night and that was sent 20
Mr.. Whelan by Ats mother
| REPoRTER--How did the newspapers get hold OF
your various heights as measured while in the
| jury roomY
mad his rule with him and measured heights
AGAINST the wall ana first wrote our initials, tnen
iull names. TINS some enterprlsng reporter
! got hold OF, as we aiterward saw, when piece OF
newspaper containing this matter arrived in the
sS ceu ran s1e anH y,
breaking. There was hardly any thing else that we
| cared to read in the piece Of paper except this.
! They made some blunders in printing the matter,
! for | was put down at i've feet ten and half
ca = aSoTs Hnsgn E1S mine IN 10is Is
we mad measured feet, mine vas the shoi test Ia
length and Whalens in circumference. we could
so we tired to divert ourselves a little now
! and then. Whelan Is very intellectual
man, find. Our appetltes lor dinner were not
dne. The meals given US we're very good. We all
suffered more or less by the confinement OF seven
days. We mad somewhat OF Q discussion over
Taylors desire not 70 send for the Judge, there
was no chance or an agreement. We asked him
other eleven, and say that he did not coincide
but this ne had, OF coarse, perfect right to de.
cine.
Mr.. Thyer was visited at his residence, No. 20
Noble street, GreenpOint, but was little disposed
to be comm unicative. He said he had given his
word to keep the names a secret and he meant
to stick to it, He stated he had proposed the
name OF Mr.. Ha!stead Tor foreman, ana that gen.
tleman would have been unanimously elected, but
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the jury should get extra compensation. he
wishes IL TO be known tnat he told tue Judge that
the Jury ala not stand IL to /.
MR.. GEORGE HULL.
Mr.. Hull was found by o AERALD reporter at his
residence, Ne. l02 Devoe street, williamsburg
where he carries on business as carpenter and
builder. on the reporter stating his business he
was told that he would be given all the informa-
ton that could be given without breach OF
honor. Mr.. Hull said thar, owing to resolution
unanimously agreed to by the jury, the names OF
those who voted one way or the other should be
kept strictly secret He mad pledged his word 10
abide by this decision and meant to keep It, He
had no objection. however, TO state that the
numbers were nine for the defendant and three
for the plaintiff
REPoRTER-Do you think there was any neces-
slty for such resolution WHAT harm could be
done by making the names puoc
MIR. HULL don't know that any harm could
come oil IT, but the general feeling that II
was better to keep the names secret. There has
been such an amount Of feeling on this case that
IL was deemed necessary. But, necessary or not,
our words are pledged and we must keep silent
on that p oint
RECONCILIATION did the numbers stand when
the jury first went QUIT
MIR. HULL-Well, the numbers at first were, be-
neve, to s. They nuctuated very much from time
TO time. At one time they were to 0, then
TO again, thea to !, and finally to 8.
| REPoRTER-Do you think that a longer stay or
additional evidence might have maze change
IN the numbersH
REPoRTER-Do you think had any or the jury
their minds made up before they retiredH You
know some men have very strong prejudices and
DON'T know it themselves. They might think they
/ were acting impartlally and yet nave strong
bias for SIDE or the other.
/ MI. HULL think there were some who had
/ their minds so mace up that nothing coud cnange
them, but all did tnelr best and acted con-
/ scIenlously.
REPoRTER-Did tue jury hear about the aflda.
! wits OF Loader and Price, or were they influenced
! b. them 10 any extent
! Mr. auLI.-Not IN the slightest; but you Will re-
member these afdavits were handed IN ucfore we
reured. We knew me general purport OF them,
/ bat did not give them a moments consideration.
I REPoRTER-Dd you notice any signalling from
Mr. HULL~No; we noticed the crowd staring at
us, and IL was SOU ce OF some amusement, but
tnere was no signalling, and 1T would be OF no
RsPoRrEn-How dld the jury spend their time
MI hULL-Alter dlnner bne nrst day we con-
/ finued to deliberate and to ballot. AS general
! thing our Deliberations were only adjourned
1 during meal tines Alter supper the debate was
/ resumed, and the arguments for one size the
other we're continued till halfpast ten O'Clock at
night, when a ballot was taken. During that
\ night no one slept much, those who could sleep
/ being prevented from enjoying their repose by
those VINO could not sleep TneT 0alloted
\ about every hour, and when morning
came the daylight caught them with eyes
half smut and worn out from fatigue
| and want OF rest. On the second day there were
] discussions,
Denham, OF Fulton street, sent ia some ice cream,
/ which was greatly rel she'd We rasher enjoyed
! the crowd watching u.s. After some iurtner as
cussion the jury seemed disposed 30 rest t sup
per time. When supper came We were able to do
lull Justice 10 u after our arduOus days labor.
! After supper the consideration OF the complicated
question OF law and evidence which mad been sub
mltted TO us was renewed, and we continued thus
! until nine O'Clock. We we're then allowed TO re-
] tire 10 the cOnrt room. and this