New-York tribune., 1875-05-13


| the Language with reference 10 the portrait'
| @. Yes, that language readi A. No. Sir.
O. Did you ever have Mr.. Beechers portrah-the emo
! spoken of-in your house in ClintonStf A. No. sir.
O. In the month OF January, 1871, did you use tnis
| language TO Mr. Beecher in an interview with him
He never exactly said that he spoke Of what grand
thing would be II TtOn and could join forces OH 1"s
| Chrstian Union.
| Mr. Evarts-What page is thatf
Mr. Morris-78s.
| The Wltness-No, Sir never said that
Mr. Morrs- read this paragraph purportins 70 be On
interview had you and Mr. Beecher the ID OF
February, 1872.
Mr. shearman-what pagef
Mr. Morris-Page $685. the same part iReading:
O. Before writing this Mr. Noulton Of Feb 3,
1872, long letter, had anything passed between yon
and Mr. MoultOn which induced or bod you TO write 10
@ How did that occur, and what was iti A. vent
Saturday morning over TO the Office 10 zee M moo,
ton 10 had been troubous time from week u week AL
along there; things breaking out went IN seo
him on Of these occasions ! sat for some
when he came in he did not see me-en purposeMand
about his business continuing for-kept me waiting
a cold recognition he passing out and got up and
went out with him-I must say | forced myself ,a On
nearly in the mood OF anger with me than had ever
him before, and when entered into some conversa
ton with him he very abrupt, and even more; be
70 make some explanation 70 him OF Mr Ttons ar
mands upon me that shoud-that I was not funlling
the understanding and the intent OF our cordial Ares
ment, and that my friends were also doing me great
deal OF damage-Mr. TlltOns representation Dy-Holng
him great deal injudciousy. too; Mr. Mouton replied
with that cutting To me-the substance OF II
very well for that had all that wanted
wealth, and home, and church. and my friends.s
was very well for me 70 slight or pay little egasa 70 mi, M
port that he suffering poverty that he was being
injured by those that were natterng me- and ne bore
down with some severity upon me In the matter; As
conversation was peculiarly trying TO me"
@ Did you, on the Saturday of the 3D. Of February,
1872 have any such conversation as that with Mr.
Beecheri A. did not
O. Did you that day have any conversation with
him whateverf A. Ny impression Is that hni nos thas
was at home ILL.,
O. Did you see him at your oflce in NewYoraf A. 1
think not, Sir
O. Did you treat him with any harshness, eoldness,
severity that dayi A. No, Sir. ITO Judge Nell
son would like TO say TO your Honor that am per
fectly satisfied that had any such interview;
know I had any such interview AZ Mr.
Beecher describes have answered that my impression
is at home i'll that day. Is 1t proper for me " ex
press the basis OF that mpressionf
Judge Neilson-No: you confined simply to answer
ing in regard specific statements made by Mr. Beecher
TO which your attentien is called
The Witness-I consulted my physician about II; tbat
is ALL Sir, and wanted to know whether had right
To.
By Mr.. Morris-When was il you first learned Mr.
Beecher had Mr.. TtOn in the and had CONVEX
sation with him A. Through letter Of Feb 5, 1872
O. Through this letter A. You have not referred
TO the letter before.
Mr. MorrsThe letter Of Feb. s. referred to- and that
was the first you learned the factf
Mr. Evars-I object to this This is not to contradict
anything.
Judge Neilson-Get at the specific sentences you want
to correct, If you want to lay the foundation.
Mr. Morrs-I will state the OF those questions.
am calling the witnesses attention to the news part Of
this letter. This letter conveyed TO him certain news eer
tain informaton and suppose, it is proper for us 10
show that the Information that he had OF this matter
was derived the letter ITSELF and that Mr. Beecher
had not prior that communicated this fact to him
Judge Neilson-Who put in that letter
Mr. Morris-rhe letter was put in by US.
Judge NeilsOn-Wcn.
Mr. Evarts-It is important II IL part OF the chief
examination.
Judge Neilson-I think therefore any inquiry Mr..
Morris have 20 make regard the letter should have
made then bur you read new statement he
made in respect to it,
Mr. MorrisBut the interview has been testified to by
Mr. Beecher and cause assigned for the writing Of this
letter that did the time That they have shown
by their defense that IN consequence o this inter-
that he had had with Mr. Moulton, on the Saturday
preceding that induced the writing Of this letter Now,
this letter conveyed Mr. Mouton certain information.
certain news, which I submit we have right 10 show
the first knowledge that Mr. Moulton had with refer
ence to those matters.
Judge Neilson-If Mr Beecher attributed knowledge 20
him earlier day, OF you contradict that
az you can any other expression he used think II Is
economical keep very close 10 the exact expresson ~
that there will be nothing 10 complain OF.
OTHER CONTRADICTIONS OF Mr.. BEECHER
Mr. Morrls-Yes that we purpose doing
ITO the wtness.l With reference 10 the arbitration
! Mr. Moulton, Mr. Beecher says:
Mr. MOultOn talked with me about whether there could
not an arbitration aud quiet settlement OF all our d1r
culties including the payment OF the debt owed by hr
Bowen Mr.. Tton and the burying OF all dnicultes
finally and out Of sight and wanted 20 know II would
not be a good thing to ask Of my influential friends
in the church u act IN the matter as consulting com
mittee.
O. Did you have with reference that any such inter.
view that
| Mr.. Shearman-what pagef
Mr. Evarts ITO Mr.. Norris What page. Judge'
Mr. Morris-Page 80. ITO the witness.l Did you uso
that language or any language Of similar mporti
| Mr.. Evarts-Which columnf
Mr. Morris-Inside column, the second long paragraph
The Wtness-Mr Evarts, understand, stops me rom
| answering for the present
| Mr.. Evarts-Yes; want 10 get the part
Mr.. Beach-Go on and answer.
| Mr. Morris-Answcr the question.
| The Witness-I didn't ask that committee OF his
friends appointed understand the last part Of your
question.
O. Did you suggest that the differences and matters
between him and Mr. TtOn should be made the subect
OF that arbtration A. No; didn't suggest 20 him tnas
| the matters be made the subject OF arbitration
| O. Was anything upon that subject said between you
| and hint A. With regard to arbtrationi
| Mr.. Morris-No.
| Mr. Beach-[To Mr.. Morrisl Read that again.
| Mr. Morris-I will read it again
Mr. Moulton talked with me about whether there could
not arbitration and quiet settlement OF all our
Mr. Bowen to Mr. Tton aud the Surying Of ali dica
ties finally and out OF sight
A. No. Sir it the settlement between Mr. Bbwen
and Mr. Beecher that talked about not the settle
/ rneut hetw Mr. Beecher and Mr.. Til.on
O. At the interview of dune l-sunday night June I,