New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-01
Q Aud did you dlrect efforts to find out whether they

@ Aud did you direct efforts to find whether they
wero still in exstcncei A. did, Dir.
O. Now, Sir, you have spoken Of desire, and abcrs at
an earlier period, to oxtngush the scandal including
then the distinguishing Of the papers In what stage and
what manner, did you so labori A. That was in Novem
Der or December, 1872 What manncri do not know
that exactly understand your question as to the
manner.
In what manner did you labor To extnguish the pa
pers and scandaii A. In the manner have stated
by conversation with Mr.. Tilton and Mr.. Moulton.
q. As you have given ti A. Which have given
@ You have been asked about opinion which you
formed and expressed to the scandal II made public,
that Il would he the ruin OF Mr. Tllton and Mrs Ton
and Mr. Beccher Do you remember the precise phrase,
to whether You said IL would he the ruin OF these
partiea or Il would ruinous 10 these partiesi A.
don't remember whether said the ruin or runous, or
destructive; used some phrase which conveyed my
meaning that II would be exceedingly injurious and dam
aging 10 all OF them.
O. You been asked toward the close Of the cross
examination within few moments. something about an
occasion OF Mr. Moulton In company with Mr. Tilton
coming 10 YOU and telling the story OF this matter ana
MOuton asking your advice, and you giving It, and I'll
ton objecting and Moulton declining TO follow your
advice. when was that occasion A. All OF that
occurred at the interview in November 1872, or Decem
her, 1872 except stated in my direct examination
possibly the latter part OF that statement occurred
between myself and Moulton at subsequent period
@ That is as 10 his determination not W lOio" your
sdvicei A. Yes, Sir, not TO follow it.
O. How do you remember that occurring between you
and Mr. Mouton at any subsequent. or consequent IN
tervewf A My general recollection is that Mr. Moulton
silent that subject at the interview In November
or December, 1922 that afterward talked with hln
he said he would consent to the destruction OF
the papers. MI Tton opposed il but he may have III
dcated that there in that interview; am not certain
about that. Sir.
O. You have been asked about some meeting with MT
Woodruff after you had spoken to Mr. Mouiton about ms
(woodrurs) informing you that money had been paio Ill
his BUSINESS A. Yes. Sir
O. When was that interview with Mr.. Woodruff A.
Well, it was few days after my interview with Mr.
Mouiton; Mr. Mouon Mr.. Woodruff said to me, had Mt
tackled him having told me that and he came iounu
and asked me why did it.
O. How is that2 A. Mr.. Woodruff told me that Mr.
Mouton had attacked him for having communicated the
fact of the payment of the money to him.
@. What passed then between youf A. told MIN inc
circumstances told him that very much regretted
the seeming necessity which compelled II, nut hhu
deemed il my duty Mr. MOulton OF how thought
the disclosure of that money matter would inure him.
and that he theeupon attacked Mr. Beecher for having
told me, and attacked him 30 violently that iet con-
strained 10 tell Mr. Monitor the truth that did not get
my information from Mr. Beecher about that, put tnat II
was from Mr. Woodruff that regretted IT, but under
the circumstances thought had done right ana proper
In 80 doing.
u. Dd yOu INFORM MN M 10 "hciioi MI 'i""i'''i 49,
pressed you after you told him not Mr. Beecher
to inform him who it vast A. Yes; told Mr. Woodruh
that Mr. Moulton pressed me very hard before con-
scented TO tell him.
G. And what did Mr.. Woodruff say after you tod MN
that A. lie said he thought ought not to have told
him; that he did not intend should communicate the
fact TO Mr.. Moulton
O. Did ne express any opinion that you ought TO nave
left him under impression that Mr. Beecher had told
youf No. he did not say that; he said he Thought
ought not to have told Mr.. MoultOn that he communi-
Gated the fact TO