The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-15

Q. In debating the points or the heads OF what
you wanted nlm TO say 70 Mr.. Tilton dld you 90,
never dictated point, not word, nor indicated
| what wanted him to write.
your A. No, dld not.
q. You know he did write something A. It
Was his yolitlon ana mis- own choice.
q. You knew he was writing something to be
used with Mr. TlltonS A. knew ne was making
memorandum for mis- own use.
Q. With Mr.. TlltonS 4. With Mr.. Tilton.
| q. For the purpose OF conveying TO Mr.. Tton
your ieelingsf A. his impression OF the interview
4. Why didn't you convey to him through the
| same channel some vlndication A. How did
know but IL was there
| z. Where A. In That channel.
q have asked you TO tell me 40 the converse
| dicatory OF Yourselff A. And have told you that
70 n% y p n that mad not
Q. DID you charge nun with ANYTHING 10 say 10
Mr.. TIlton upon that subjects A. did not.
u You were not
ANXIOUS THEN TO vIEDIoATE YoURsELF9
| A. That does not follow.
Q. Wen why did you not send some message to
MIR. TIlton that this charge, although he believed
| It TO be true, was untrdeS A. The whole inter-
view would obllterate that II 1t were faithfully
yersy then, directly; Mr. Moulton. as the common
! friend OF the two, was peacemaker between US,
ana express himself as he thougns wlsest to Mr..
q. You expressed your sorrow for what you
D. Bus you didn't send any special message to
/ him 10 indicate yourselir A. don't recolect
that did.
O. Ddni's you regard that as important' A. 1t
O. DON'T you remember whether you did or nos
at that time A. nave no recollection OF it, SIR.
Q. Then the grlevous charge that was brought
against you was lost sight OF In the grcf Tor what
you had done against himS A. can't say that 1t
was.
that day, was the term Improper relations or
.'lmaroper advances or solicitations" usedS A.
cannot recall that the words those phrases, were
.. Well, you regarded that as q most serious
charge against you, didn't your A. Tae substance
O. Didn't you regard that Us most serious
charger A. Whether the substance OF that was
q. Didn't you regard that as the most serious
part OF tue charge against you A. "Impr0per
Solicitations certainly; that was the most serious
q. And yet you didn't single It out and vindi-
cate y snsag any message
Mr. Tilton; understood that Mfr. Moulton was my
O What message did you give In regard to the
charge against you : A. No message whatever.
O. Well then, ne was not tho messenger for that
purposeS A. He himself o messenger in his
living, peaceful feeling coward both; his sympathy
with both and mis- determination 30 so explain as
that both should be reconcilcd.
o. call your attention now, Mr.. Beccner, stu
furtHer, to this document:-"He would have been
O Oss1e Did you say anything to toas cscts a.
dId not say that sentence, II recollect. SIR but
miShs nave been pu. down Tor short In that SEN.
Q. Did you say anything that conveyed that SEN
O. / read another sentence: 81 can ask moth.
Ing except that ne would remember all the other
hearts that would acne" Did you say anything
that conveyet that ideas A. Not IN that bold
way.
in substance A. Not In It's apotheSmatic form as
IL STANDS there.
you clothed it IN that languages A. discussed
with him
in that Close way in which you press me for an
answer.
O Very WE'LL Something akin to it' A. can't
q. Sonetning akin to itY A. Something In that
nelgnD0rnood, sir.
even wish that were deadn Did You express
any suca sentiment as That A. fnas does not
represent any sentiment that expressed.
O. DID you say anything in substance like this
''thaI others must live and suffer ~ A. spoke
o. Then, again, dId you say In substance az
WIN die before any orc but myself viii Do Incul-
pated ~ A. No.
q. say anything or that nature9 A. 1 said
something IN that neighDornood.
u. Did sou say this :-'Al my thoughts are run
ninx out toward my friends aud the poor enid
lying there and praying win her folded hands ~
a. That reminds me OF something that SAID in
o. something in that characters A. And the
impression produced upon me by the interview
O Again, did you say this or anything IKE It,
'She IL guilty, snned against, bearing the trans.
there; did not
o DID yon say anything OF the same meaning
A. NO, not the meaning that Is there.
O. didn't you intend TO convey That ideaf A.
did not In any such sense as IL stands there.
U But IN some other sense A. intended TO
convey another sense which that fails 20 express.
q. Again-"Her forgiveness nave. 4 humbiy
pray 70 God that He may pgs II into the heart Of
q. say nothing OF that kind' A. Nothing OF the
KIND 10 the lore part OF that sentence AZ AL
giyeness for any injury ! bad done him IN his
household.
q. Wen. what part oft dad you say wasn't stated
by you-'Her forgiveness | nayein A. never
said rad her forgiveness.
Y. mat was
AZ INVENTION or NoULroN's,
A. can't say about that. sir; this is hts docu-
menL which he can answer for better than !.
q. Now, Mr.. Beecaer. when that paper was nm
ished, do you say that you didn't read III A. l
| Q. DO you say iI WASH, read to your A. say
that IL was not read 10 me.
/ .. Well why didn't you read it or have It read
4 TO Jour A. didn't care about IL, str
i q. Didn't you care what was in ~ A. cared
/ what be should represent 70 Mr. Tllton, out these
4 q. But you put your name TO Il. didn't your A.
I put my name, not 20 the truth or the statement,
but 70 tae fact that had given him Ia trust this
4 Y. And you gave something In trust to him with
9nt KNOWING ,s, wnsi gVa gave nim - gave nlm
and tnat nc would represent TO Mr.. TIit0n wnat
were the results OF that conversation.
q. You gave Il to him IN trust2 A. Yes.
q. Well, did you regard IL as his composition or
yours9 A. regarded 1t as his.
Y. Then you gave ms property 70 him IN trust
i A. He wanted me 70 make II my property.
q. You gave Mr.. Moulton's property to Mr..
| MoulLon Ia trustf A. didn't regard 1t as prop
/ erty.
\ q. Wen, production A. didn't regard II IN
I the light oil a production.
| q. Well, you gave tns. Whatever It was, regard.
ing II as Mr. NJ ullon's, to Mr. MoulIon In trust,
did your A. Moultonis TO Moultonf
q. Yes A. No.
| 0. You Enow what the meaning OF the word
| "in rust" or course. rs, don't your A. do.
q. You know that you can't give your property
another mans property, TO that man IN trust,
don't yOuf A. know can give him a statement
/ OF an interview, memorandum OF which he mas
made can authenticate the errand ON winch ne
! goes with that memorandum In his hands.
U. without knowing or caring what was In Il 2
A. on the trust | had that ne had made only "A
I memorandum that would bring back 10 nis mlnu
the polnts-tne salient polnts-of the conversation
that be wanted 10 use.
o. Bring back TO MS mind the salient points or