The Morning herald., 1875-09-16
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hing in reference To- Gtl sad DOYLE being
there, here In Philsdelphia where he lived;
l don't remember what he said: did not
ineert any personal in the New York Herald
o. m sny other paper headed Napoleon:
when reached here my sister had
made 10 preparation for MOVING;
she told me she would come to New YORK
the following Wednesday or Tuesday and
mentioned the train she would come In: on
the ;n,eryiew with Superintendent Wainns.
on August 18th, when Sups. Waliing tod
me that Bill was suspected OF steaiing
Charlie Ross; l cannot remember what
said but told him several times l did 10:
lelieye III: can't say when FIRST believed
II: was not convinced of it that night when
I left Can't. Wailing: had my dOnbts and
nj the same time l had my suspicious; was
led to nv suspicious from knowing them to
he them to be really bad Characters, |
from their living here in Philadelphia, and
from Supt. Walling saying that Gil bad
broached the same subject to him, lBnI
before, prior TO tha. time: had seen the
horse and buggy corresponding to the de-
scrip ion but never thought of il afterward
l did 80. think of it that evening, prior to
this visit to Walling: had seen descr1p-
ton in the papers of the men: don't know
when saw it but think it was prior to that:
that description did not strike me when l
read il l. did no. occur to me afterwarus:
when was told that Bill was in il: did not
think OF i. a. that time: if / recoilect what
Wailinr said was that Gil said he had
talked matter of that kind over with Bi
before: Wall;ng said TO me in that interview
that he did not want to arrest Bill on the
Red Bank affair: told him that what he
wan.er him for was for the Red Bank affair:
told sap. Walling al tina. interview what
Gil's wife had said to me en- the liih; l told
him the suhst anc 0f the conversation with
the lady: have 10 recollection of telling
I'm wha. she sold to me about making a
stake: told him had an interview with
Nosher anl Douglass af.er leaving Gil's
house. dill ms tell him when: he did no.
ask r.e told him some things he did 10:
ask NE: told Tim that reported to them
wha. Gil-s wife had said to me: / did no.
tell him had been on 10 Philadelphia no
the lEh Of Angus. there was no agreement
to under sanding ST tha. interim:
tina. ] was to assist him: the only under
ssani;nr was that if ! would assist him to
get the child ,ha, / should cei whatever
share OF the reward that was to come 10
him: he did 10. say ANYTHING about my
assisting him TO get men: don't know that
said ANYTHING to him that night about not
letting the men know from whom the infor-
nation came: l did say in my examination
in c,lief tha. he. Wsiling, did no. say how he
wau.el me to assist them: that ! had no
power 10 assis. and did not wan. to give any
informa- Jon that they would know gave:
| SAN Mo,her about four days after his
sis-er came. l don't know what brought
them there. they did not say TO me what
trough! them: they came early in the morn
in letw cen AMI :: was up at the time:
Fem say who let them in: don't know
whether the iron. door was tolted when
they a-re there: il is nct likely tia. j,
would tr st 1ha. time: persons going on.
would likely open l.: there was twenty
families in The house: can't say how long
was aft Il a that ] next saw Mosher
an. Douglass: they sfaid upwards OF an
Lo,.r: cont reco,lect what they talked
about; l was in the room: Mo>her talked TO
Ii. vie: | m,.s have heard par. Of their
Conversation: l took par. in i: it is 10,
likely thai was there all the time without
;stk:G- to them: think he spike 20 his
yi-e ..,2r. her moving AMI about her taking
u,ace an ato-. the children: can't say
wha. the conversation was: this was about
four Csvs after she lnoTc1 on. ! am sreak
inc Of the frs. interview al nv house. not
the s.acy,rl: OF the second interview Moshcr
did 10: come u at all: there was no CONVEX
ss1;0n there: had second interview wi b
WaIin,: ! think on the day after my sister
came on: on the fOur.h day after nv sister
arrived Mo,her and Douglas had left the
house: | went 10 Strumberg's saloon was
there first: don't know Of inything that
occurred except that they spoke of going to
Astoria AMI asked if l knew Row late the
boats ran: they did not say when they were
going there: they sad they were going up
as far as Astoria. and asked me how late
the boat ran: understood that they were
going up to oria that day: they were
dressed as usual and had fishing pole with
them: should judge it was late in the
aftern2on-about three O'Clock: went ou.
Of the saloon with them wen. UP Canal
street with them aEi left them on the cor
ner OF the Bower: my imeression is that
they got into car: don't know this: after
leaving me they went Up the
Bowery and / wen: straight. to head
quarters: saw Captain Walling: told
,n.tni ! lad seen them: that thought they
though; they were going TO Astoria: don't
remember telling him when saw them or
where | saw them: told him the way they
were dressed. about them having a fishing
pole with them, and gave full description
Of them; could not see them cross the
Astoria ferry: notfing took me to Strom-
berg's saloon in October last; when met
them in October more than any.other time,
Twas there pretty much every day.
@. Wha. conversation had you with them
then.
A. Ican't say: I lef, then with them:
wen. towards Centre street: ! left them:
they went towards Broadway: l was in the
saloon with them then between fifteen
minues AMI Lalf an hour: the Ron1out
trip was just spoken of between Mosher,
Dou ..lass and myself at S,nmberg's saloon.
on the morning of the day we went: this
was be ween and 9 O'Clock: / had been
there but shor: time myself: Judge it
was In the neighborhood Of 8 O'Clock tha!