New-York tribune., 1875-01-23
PACIFIC MAIL CORRUPTION.
Contiuued from Irrsi rsze.

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uiDerous a. ~ Larger because he received nothing
~ advance Nearly ali rhe others Of less position
wanted something IN advance to go on with: Inc VIII
ess rereated that ScaumakeI's compensation was
sontinFen and nc the PRINCIPAL person employed
ne Was 20 receive the largest compensation Inc money
as sor hs own use There nothing sald ABOUT ex-
bending IL particular way e SSkeu
sChnmaEer bad the confidence of those with whom
Se SaiSed so FAR be knew the arrange arrange
bnt myH' s,ace he had seen schumaker's tes-
timOny he reme9Sered SSbt aso have been
satatnad Inv stOckWcu. The circumstance Is InAt nc
norteI NJ TO sockweu faot that he had re-
Wv Work and wanted 10 know what sc1umaker was
SONG w, asSnsS schnmakerf' stockwe nodded his
heSd IN a significant way, and sAii that ne knew IL
Wines had no knowledge OF any Arrangement between
% Where were You When you delivered the s275 900 TO
schumsker's Office IN New-York . -, -u... =,
Was It your Impression that any part of the money
was returned A. did not suppose that any BODY
who got money would give back there was nOthlhg
t. Justify such au Impression on NY mind $1,000.
Q. DID you tell hun 10 take ou las fee a1d then IN
strct him 20 do With the balanced A. My answer
ts negative t. such a statement .. .
y Dd you del yer TO william : King the $4,000 at
one tmet A. AT different time; wrote check az the
Continental Hotel, Philadelphia near tDe lelegIapn
office; nrst check Tor $1,000 and handed IL TO
tOo thought there then hlct up another check
when Kng said u worse than the FIRST II beng IOr
only $4,000 when Med NJ the ird check Tor SlI'Oo
King taking II. said it was all right.
4.
that was 10 pay the money - any unknown man m
A. had understanding wlth schunaker TO pay pay tne @
lonsed TO MN. and might be paid to any body. .,u,
O. Have you any knowledge OF Schumaker paving
man named smith S5JOJJ in Eiuoscs Office a. have
NOT | was at the west Of tte d!ssOuI have no
E0ovIedre OF tue TRANSACTION except from Schumacher
and mores testimony. have 10 laets bearing on tue
O. Have you knowledge o; the employment OF a Gen.
Q. One Mr.. SMITH A. Among the noble army Of
. martyrs thare m1y have been smith. But do not
that addition TO the list OF tlose who had received
money he now remembered I'En NJ Norris deceased,
a. that tmo editor OF The Washington Chronicle. He
vas slso Executive Cerk OF the senate. Toe payment
was 10 secure tIc subsidy. The ChTOnt
Gle not only jon printing but published number OF
editorials for me COMPANY ana a'o statistics. hnen tno
business was ended tAe witness came 70 tne c0ucIu
siOn that Morris was entitled to be paid motifs
was willing receive what The witness thought TO be
right and witness paid INN $3.50 es compensation WITH
out counting mucI Ine OF paragraph de asO pald
The Patriot Herald and other papers here about tl5OO
aud % vii am Moran i'I al oNSr
country, Keeping the public mind fresh ana sweet
800 more. ExGoy. Randall received $4,000, and also
sS5 900 as q special payment, rhe latter being entirely
independent Oi what was paid Tor his own services IDe
special purpose When the bill FIRST came before the
House in March It was defeated b. wnat was believed
10 be stock cOm5iuatlon and II was reported tlat
Henry smith Daniel Drew and others were IN H. 4Dls
combination sent u Washington numerous statements
As to what the Pacific Mai. steamship Company was
going do and these statements were reported as COM
from the Company Among other thlngs II was Sall @
tbat the Company gOIEg 10 run semi mnonthlY line
whether Il a subsidy or not Then suit was
brongbt in the name Of Chahs against sockwen and
smith Drew and others Oehn1 the suit 10 sustain
which said 800 900 had been contributed. When
tbe nil was before ne senate in the early part OF May
there was a second stock combination The same par
ties the former were reported ~ be IN H. Sockwe!
sad 10 the witness These lows are after again"
Witness informed him his information that Drew
had sent telegram TO senator 10 come 10 NewYOrk,
that the senator SAID ne could control SIX votes
tnis witness said we called the Methodist party :"
the name of Senator Harlan. Mr.. Randall An
formed witness that MI Harlan mad received such
dispatch and had 10 NewYOrk. and was going to
bave his six Senators vote against the 0 some Of the
did and others 0i not vote against the Dill; Mr
Harlan opposed the bill vigorously lighting 1t with the
Instruments with which be had been furnished. Mr..
shese things slOOO0O witness replied, can 90 IT,
We go into market and buy their men" stockWell
asked How much money Will you wanti" Witness
replied S35 OOO This amount placed in the hands
OF Randall who, witness supposed spent every cent Tor
o. What do you mean by the remark buying their
men The witness said he did not mean persons on
The floor. but the agents opposing the subsidy ne put
Tne money the hands OF Randall IL was not 10 be
counted for 10y Randall 10 him he mad slenced the out
AIDE opposition paid Randall with some Of his own
money and some that he had received from MI stock
altogether $4,000 $1,000. He thought samuel J.
Hatch received more than $4,000 IN another eheeS
g. Hatch A 1 employed him under Mr.. stockwells
direcOn: the general character OF arrangement
OF the bill although such precise words were not used
on the occasion he tod TO ahead and DO what
he could the amount altogether paid him was ABOUT
10000 witness thought tbat Hatch only went around
ana talked TO persons whom be knew there was no un
dersandng the part OF witness that Hatch was 10
influence votes In reply TO further interrogation the
said he had knOwledSe that the money was
used for political purposes IN any district or 10 ad
any men 10 any district; MI Hatch might have used
the money as any otHer person
@ Did any list OF members OF Congress pass between
you aud Hstcbi A. Those employed to promote me
subsidy by using their Influence 10 that end mad the
nawes Of those in favor. against. doubtful and those
who ought 20 be spoken TO- Inc names OF aose 10 favor
were marked red those against, blue, and dot was
placed against the doubtful
LOOK afterS A. There was no allotment; every man
was expected TO cara his money.
@ How many men were reported To you as having
been spOken 10 pro conf A. suppose about 90
@ Were they from any particular sectionf A No;
aRoFNH &QV naFn N
O Did Hatch cav ne had facilities for operating on
meIn Oers from any section A No. but he large,
handsome talented man, and had influence; / do not
think samuel a relative OF Rufus Hatch
The witness in reply 20 question where he become
said he had forgotten whether it was in SewYOrk or
san Francisco; Whiting had relations on the Pacific
Whiting Co. OF ArizO9a; the impression OF witness was
A H Whiunets cousin or brother OF the Whiting
whose sister married ex-senator Cole; he met hin here
an the Winter and Spring OF 1872 while the Subsidy bill
was pending; It was not an Academia. meeting but
brought about by arrangements IN New-YOrk;
as could remember, Whiting was 70 come TO ashing
ton and influence Ia behalf OF the subsidy, and
do whatever he could and what witness told him TO do
WLIng wanted very large sum for his services wit
mess hestated some time but at last came to the con
what reason Is assigned for putting 40 nigh al es-
tuate on bis servcesi A. None but ne said that he
wanted that mucn money Ny impression Is that at
6rst he did not want anything TO do with my business
- AZ woud interfere with his own found that Whiting
had influence with those could resch particularly
Senator Cole who was indignant with the Com
pauy Cao with me personality for having he thought
inferfered with his election, although assured him
the Company had nOt&ng 10 DO with H. Cole
s1cramento working against him. Cole also
knew 1 was warm friend OF Sargent and
naturally desired MS election although as matter Of
Of suOordiuates had taken part for Sar-
gent against Cole. nad particularly cautioned our
men not 70 take part In Senatorial aairs recollect
said 10 Dan. Nostram he was going 20 Sacramento
not TO do when he said he had private business
there Although senator Cole unfrendy TO the
measure saw that be must take the laborng 70
the bill because It was regarded a. Pacific Coast
measure and he was not going 10 do that for people
pOiucally opposed 10 him.