The New York herald., 1875-10-16
The Senate and Assembly Investi-
gators at Work.
MARCUS CICERO STANLEY ON POLICY"
lie Explains the Cabalism,
4-11-44.
Croker-His Jail Life and Le-
gal Acumen.

to be shown that Recorder Hackett instructed this
officer to allow two prisoners whom he arrested at
different times to 60 free till next morning The wit
testified that he arrested John Chamberin the
complaint OF Mr. Noe found chambern at the wine
room, No. LAG Broadway after eleven O'Clock at
night after the arrest Of Chamberlin friend OF his
suggested taking him before the Recorder; Chamber
lin asked to see Commissioner Disbecker bat
taken before him; he taken to the Recorders
house. on Park avenue and the Recorder letter
10 Justice KasmIre
Counse-Dld you know the contents OF the letter.
Witness-No, sir.
Counscl-who told you to release the prisoners
witness-I released him myself supposed the let
ter had sent for that purpose. was fined five
days pay for doing So
The other case mentioned by witness precisely
the same and he released the man, who was we'll
known because he alleged Recorder Hacket said Judge
Kasmrc would release him till morning, he could be
easily and surely found when wanted at court
AND POLICIES.
Marcus Cicero Stanley testified that he formerly
appointed Inspector Of Lotteries by the United States
government; he had no interest now IN lotteries but
he had made them study 1S47 before the
managers draw lottery they must issue scheme
prospectus containing list of tho cash amounts to
be paid and the number OF blanks; witness was shown
several lottery papers, and explained their character;
ALA make what is called "a gig" four numbers
called "a horse" and "a saddle' is two numbers;
witness said that he had an interest in policy
years ago, and sold out to John A. Morris
Benjamin Wood William c. Franks and
Charles Murray Simmons sold out about
the same time as Witness Ben Wood then assumed
control; tho lottery business is the decline; in
1869 averaged about $40 600 day this city; the
legitimate profits OF the lotteries would be about fifteen
per cent he would say that they legitmaely
drawn.
LARGEST PROFITS
he knew OF being derived from the lottery bust
ness were sos 600 in month; the reason he would
sign for the allng-on in the business the falling
out of the managers, charging each other with fraud
and also the general publicity given by the papers
the nefarious conduct of lottery managers; seven
eighhs OF the profits derived from poorer and
lower classes they buy dream books and super
stitous trusting to clairvoyans always hoping TO win
fortune and never winning it.
There thirty or forty policy sellers in this city
dealers were backed by others who of means
In 1865 he publicly charged the lottery managers with
fraud. greal deal Of crime was committed among
the lower classes in order TO obtain money to play
policy. The result OF the drawings is teegraphed over
all the Eastern States. since the committee began its
stngs the New York Office has been removed to Jersey
| City, He understood that Ephraim Simmons 4 Ben
| Wood had sold out.
A NICE DISTINCTION
The distinction between lottery and policy is that the
first consists in the purchase Of chance in drawing
and the other Is simple insurance the winning
number For instance, person can go into policy
shop and for ifty cents insure the Of 800 on a
/ 4-11-i4 ticket in the Kentucky lottery. II these
three numbers out the insurer wins the 800 Hc
gets in return for his hall dollar written slip Of
KENTUCKY LOTTERY.
4-11-44. G. S1o0.
&c" means 'gig.n The chances Of course are all in
favor the policy dealer tho magic just
may buy lottery ticket az any time before the
ing, but the policies are bought Immediately preceding
the event
The sellers of policies are In almost every street in
! the city, There must Re at least 25l Of them. The
sellers have baekrs, who gGarantre the buyers the
dence their hackers ard do the business their own
hook Formerly the backers allowed them commits
| son
| In the State Of Kentucky therc about twenty
lottery drawings a week. He did not care 60 say VINO
4 hc did not choose 70 mako host of enemies.
Finally wltness consented TO say that his
name Josiah Adams and that be lived al the Gil
scy House In sending the prize numbers from Ken
lucky by telegraph the managers key consisting
Of the lottery through the city have a headquarters
where they take the proceeds daily. Dickinson is the
active manager of the lotteries In New York. The
conryo to be the safe side Of the law by
having friends in influential quarters Their first pro-
tection from the Police Experimentation the
Commissioners Of the Police II might be either
pecuniary political interest that shields them
Witness could see in the newspapers daily the names
ofpocy men who are active aud prominent in politics;
4 Bixby's Office in Park Row he knew half dozen
who were concerned in policy dealings and lottery
drawings; witness looked upon II absurd to say
police captain with 200 under his command could
drive out all the policy dealers in his precinct; but
from his experience witness looked the lottery spec
uation as the very
! WORST KIND OF GAMBLING
He thought that the only way suppress IL was TO
indict and convict one Of the managers Let that be
done, and policy and lottery would be at end The
! law Is severe enough and II IT were only executed
o ng IL n
4 CONSEQUENTIAL POLICY MAN
Frederick Luthy, who argued with and lectured the
committee, testified that he had place at Green
witch street; officer stationed in front OF
bis establishment and he went to Of the Police
/ Commissioners Mr.. Disbecker and asked him to have
him removed; Disbccker replied that he considered
witness was CARRYING on N tho lottery business, business,
ness turned the previous Stanley and said the
managers conirived TO get Stanley appointed United
States Inspector Of Lotteries and Stanley helped
frame tho Ia, that no harm might come 70 the pol
icy dealers Witness In the poncy business 49,.
self He was indicted and came near being sent IN 10
about the men who were at tho back of the prosecution
compromise effected and he got away
Counsel asked witness the
QUESTION
as TO what sort OF law he would suggest for the exiting
uishment Of lottery dealing Considering that tho
witness was originally policy dealer and IA one now
Il his 'legaln opinions are hardly worth placing much
faith in. He far better able answer the inquiry
as to what class Of people dealt in policies He said
Il " ~'uiPO9N shos HiB pVhNJ was Aoh-
fined to the classes He had ministers Of reli-
\ gon coming to his shop 10 invest He
declined to say anything about tho indictment
brought against him for keeping policy
shop. lie did not wish TO mention the names Of the
pol cy dealers who said 70 have concocted tho
design Of 'railroading' him. An aversion to making
enemies was his motive in Withholding the names Ho
proceeded 10 deliver an essay on the culpablty of
newspapers sustaining lotteries and policies forgetting
the fact that but for the publicity given by the press 10
y the dongs or such fellows as he IS and warning tho
people against them, policy dealing would flourish Ike
green bay Policy dealers can have no love Tor
\ the press
Robert H. Johnston testified from the books Of tho
Special Sessions as to the case lottery dealer who
was tried and convicted; sections OF the Lottery
law make ii 4 misdemeanor, other sections make II
felony to sell lottery policies
CHARACTER or A DETECTIVE CAPTAIN
| Floyd Grant employed in the Western Union Tele-
graph Company testified 20 the receipt Of certain cable
dispatches from Europe the lrst WAS addressed from
London to Captain Irving, telling him to meet Living
ston fMcDonalds alas) board the Cuba in the har
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