New-York tribune., 1875-01-14
ALBANY.
rwc r,grRps VOTE CLAIMED FoR HERMAN.


hrwo THIRDS VOTE CLAIMED FOR HERMAN.
xus rRsr or STRENGTH IN rHE CAUCUS TO BE
MADE BRFoRE THE BALLOT FOR sESAToR-rHk
QUESTION or A VIVA vocE VOTE THE DECIDING
rssUx-KERSAN's FRIENDS CLAIM FoB HIM
UxrY yorEs our OF TuK EIGnTY-NINE.
Isr rELEaRAPa TO THE TRrBUSs.l
ArnASY. Jan. iS-It Is now evident that
tba test of strength in the caucus will be
y,a.ie before the ballot on Senator is reached. A
movement which originated with leading
Democrats in this city to demand viva
voce vote in the caucus has been taken
M by Mr.. Kernan's friends, especially by the
Nsv-York delegation and is growing in strength as
n part of the Herman creed II Is urged tnat "hiio
the later precedents against an open ealio' 'io
older usage Of the time when the Democrate parry
used TO elect Senators from this State is IN lts IaVoi
Mr. Murphys supporters are opposing the PROPOSE
+ion with all their power and announce their inten
tion of making fight this issue. IL beaten
bar. thew will abandon the field. The success
Of the motion for an open ballot will mean the over
1xbalming defeat of Mr.. Murphy, while. on the other
hand decision in favor Of secret ballot, while IL
NAV erdanger Kernan's chances, can hardly de1eat
him II q large proportion OF the herman
strength can be secured for the form OF
ballot they desire, its success Is certain
and the success of Mr.. Herman follows as
natter of course The entire delegation from New
York Are working zealously to bring this about, ana
leading country members express their entire conn.,
dence In their ability to carry the measure through
II should be remembered, however, that the en-
1eayOr las always failed Of late years as
q matter bearing directly upon the Ques-
ton of an open ballot memDer mas
ayoved his intention Of introducing into the
Assembly resolution calling attention to current
Ah Ill fufa on
in the contest and providing for the appoint
nsnt of A committee of inquiry. Such action
,yonId probably have its only effect in showing that
the better class of members were on the watch for
any demonstration OF the kind.
Mr. Kernans friends have arrived in considerable
members during the past two days, and the canvass
IN his favor has had an organization which it sadly
lacked before careful canvass Of the Legislature
which they have made gives Mr.. Herman GO votes
ont of the S945 being necessary TO choice. IWen-
ty-tHe of these come from New-YOrk and Westches-
ter The Herman men seOT at the idea of any gen
eral support of Murphy in tho river counties. West
and north of Albany they claim that the vote
Is almost solid for Mr. Herman. Though the per
sona affiliations of some Of the New-fOrk delega-
zion arc apparently with Mr., Murphy no fear is en-
+ertained that they will desert to his standard
Francis Kernan's great popularity among the
Irish will be sufficient safeguard, 1t is urged,
against any such detection. These figures,
which are confirmed as far as possible by
talk among members. would seem to put an end to
the contest aud deprive it of the little animation it
POSSESSES. But Mr. Murphy's friends still pipe the
same confident tunes of victory as when they first
made their appearance here. There has not been
time when any member outside of Kings County
could be found TO announce himself for Mr.. Muir
ply or when Mr.. Murphys Committee could be in
duced TO give an estimate of their vote
but they have always predicted their success with
unvaying cheerfulness 1t is evident that they in
tend 20 pursue this policy to the last, preserving
bold trout for reasons of their 1t is said pri-
vately tonight that they claim 25 votes, with Is
votes scattering. If this is correct they already
concede the field to Mr.. Herman. Another claim
gives 20 10 . outside Of Brooklyn making from a
TO 81 with fewer scattering
The rumOrs of coalitions between Chief Justice
Church's adherents and those of Mr.. Murphy have
repeated themselves in various distorted shapes
during the last few hours but they have as little
foundation now they had then. The assur-
apces that we're given two days ago that
the Chief Justice would not for a mo-
ment entertain such a proposition, came
ON the very best authority and were hardly an hour
old They have been repeated to-day IN terms just
as emphatic. Chief-Justice Church not only favors
Mr. Kernans election but al his conspicuous friends
are hard at work for him. Another claim put out
by the Murphy movement, is also disposed of
this was Judge Wheatons friends were with them.
That some of bis friends outside of the Legislature
have been working for him is unquestOned, but
INQUIRIES of all but two of Judge WheatOns sup
porters who are in the Legislature show that none
of them are committed TO Mr.. Murphy and several
either prefer Mr. Herman OF intimate that MIR. Muir
ply is not likely 10 get their votes.
Ex-Gov Seymour has come al last and is staying
with his sister. Mrs Pratt. Tomorrow he will con-
sult with Senator Parmenter of Troy, and, ii is
promised address him public letter, positively re-
fusing the use of his and urging the selection
of Mr. Herman. Speaker Mcclure also is about TO
enter the canvass being now released from the neu-
tralty which he wisely imposed upon himself during
the consideration of the arrangement of the Com
mittees. Whatever quiet work Murphy's men may
be doing in the ranks, the leaders are all against
them. The accomplishment of the ostensible object
of Mr.. Murphy's friends to elect him to the Senate
seems very improbable. Whether they have accom-
plished their real object which is believed to have
been the strengthening Of their political position
for future enterprises, time may show.
LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDINGS.