The New York herald., 1875-11-03
Hussein Pacha's Views on the In
surrection and It's Causes.
OTTOMAN BLINDNESS AND SLOTH,
An Austrian Consul and a Greek Inter
prefer on the Situation.
IN GENT DARING.

atics. We rolled the little drawbridge into
the town, accompanied by an army OF ours and small
children, and drew up near the chateau at present
cupied by His Excellency Hussein Pacha
Trebigne's walls said TO have been built by some
Turks who chased Castclnuovo by ,the We
netans. In the Middle Ages It tho capital city Of
| quite renowned principality and present it Is
dirty little Turkish town OF tenth rank.
The streets narrow, crooked and lined
either side with bazaars. The people look
squalid stupid and unhappy. The spend most OF
their time in sitting cross-legged the benches
their bazaars smoking their pipes and moodily regard
ing each other There did not to be any
yersaton among them. Tho Christians did not appear
10 be undergoing any special surveillance they
and. came freely, but informed that most Of
those who had remained in Trebgne after the outbreak
OF the insurrecton were Catholics who were more
less in sympathy with the Turks We had been in town
but few minutes when were accosted by official,
clad in European costume, who inquired desires.
On presenting credentials he consented to escort
TO the chateau and to accord interview with Hus
sen Pacha the commander Of the forces and the opera
tiens in and around Trebgne Followed by an immense
crowd Of men and boys accompanied our guide,
who Greek doctor, from Constantnople to the
primitive yet strongly built fortress in which the COM
mander lodged. We passed under frowning gate
way and saluted gravely by ferocious looking Asatcs
entered court where numerous cannon planted.
4 From this court led into another, up a stone
staircase into ante-chamber paved with gravel and
| into the presence of numerous guards
INTERVIEW HUssE1S PAcHA
Hussein Pacha elegantly dressed in a European uni
FORM his dark handsome face framed in symmetrical
beard brought into strong relief by the brilliant color
OF his fez stood at the door OF his private
cevc US. He gave his hand to each and then led the
/
to he seated Then curling himself up hugo divan
which stretched entirely side Of the room
he fell nursing long pipe, whose bowl reposed
silver tray and he seemed entirely have forgotten
After due deiberation the Greek DOCTOR who acted
as interpreter ventured to ak:-'Your Excellence
he said ''thcse gentlemen from Ragusa, Of
whom is journalist from America " At this the Pacha
slightly inclined his head and motioned TO attendant
who brought cigarettes and coal with which to light
| them We then invited TO converse and pre-.
/ sentng letters from the Turkish Consul at Ragusa,
4 were speedily welcomed anew. Hussein Pacha main
| tanned however the air of about fall asleep,
/ by an intense indifference for all mundane
considerations in the dreamy manner in which
no returned TO his Pipe, after be had held
the Consus letters upside down for short
time, as If meditatng whether not he should
read them He speaks no language but his own so
that the interview conducted entirely through the
interpreter in French and Turkish Hussein Pacha
opened tho interview with the statement that the dis
affection in the provinces was mainly due to the active
intervention of foreign agents Montencgrns and Ser
vians who kept the 1ame Of revolt alive long time
after the Christians native to the country would be
glad it die out He dismissed with lofty scorn
do the 0rientals OF his class the charges that the
Turkish administration is corrupt and does not give
justice the Christians He asserted that the Turkish
government had desired to make concessions, and had
paid certain classes in tho province not TO engage
in the insurrecon only to find that those people
poyed the money which they had received for that pur
pose exclusively TO purchase with which TO fight
the Turks he the insurgents Of the grossest
cruecs that they INDUCED in useless slaughter, and
| that they broke all their promises. But he ap-
peared TO be utterly ignorant Of the number Of their
forces their disposition and the Of their leaders
When spoke OF Lubbratich the interpreter asked
what his position among the insurgents was and seemed
quite asonished when told him that he the leader
The Pacha made secret Of tho number Of his
forces; said that he had 900 and expecting
reiniorcements and smiled contemptuously when we
hinted that the insurgents might possibly attack Tre
bigne anew While we were speaking on this subject
two officers came in with the that the
insurgents had just burned two villages but short dis
tance from Trcbgnc
The Pacha asserted that the Turks do not follow the
barbarous custom OF making prisoners We then
asked him how many prisoners he had in Trcbgne,
whereupon he responded "nine.n We drew own
conclusions, fancying that If but nine prisoners re-
NAMED in his the end Of several weeks fight
ing his men must have been extremely illibera in CIV
ing quarter He seemed convinced that tho consular
MISSION so far as any mediation concerned, had
come 10 naught and did not for a moment presume 10
doubt that tho Ottoman government would succeed in
putting all the insurgents out OF the way. He ap-
peared like all other Turks TO have deeply rooted
dislike to anything like European intervention in
Turkish affairs and to be determined II possible,
10 prevent IT, He fanced that tho dstur-
Dances might last all winter, but had evidently per-
suaded himself believe that the insurgents only
the victims Of foreign machnation and would, sooner
or later return to their homes He did not know how
deep and bitter the resolutions taken by the op-
posing forces not rest sleep until the country
cleared OF the Turks
AN INTELLIGENT INTERPRETER
Coffee was served in tiny cups and after Hussen
Pacha had gwen vague ideas to the duration
Of the campaign, and had vigorously defended the
Turkish property holder against the charges Of cruelty
and Injustice we rose TO take our He greatly
pleased and fear equally puzzled, when Informed that
his conversation would be reported in the New YORK
HERALD He called tho people in the country round
about Trebigne barbarians, both Turks and
Christians and appeared TO think that their
woes we're Of small consequence Tho interpreter
however who was a Of rarc common sense aud Of
much better education than the Pacha had diGercn,
views on the subject or course he Turk in his
politics and reasoned that the Mussu!men, whether
originally right wrong clearly the owners
Of the great mass Of the property in tho Herzegovina
and that they entitled protection He said that
the Mussumen living the province had
certainly suffered tenfod moro by the
insurrection than tho Christians In the
villages destroyed during the last three months the
Turks had been tho main losers, although the nsur
gents had sometimes burned their own cabins rather
tnan spare those Of their enemies which they wished e
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