The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1875-04-08

not tremenfber what the commencement was;
REMEMBER the substance OF II. Q
in regard TO the Independent made
the subject OF conversation AT the interview?
A. Ny impression is that they were not. Y.
Well. was nything said about any ether p9ip2eTF
y. Yes, sir. @. What was thatT a. Well
Tilton is going to have paper for himself, was
the keystone. Idon'C pre- tend to give the order
Of @ n9T ne Pns as bat Ton
must have en- organ for himself, and that
with my influence ana that of my friends and
that OF his friends journal could be established
and that II we were to stand together unitedly
everything might be accomplished that was de-
sirable At interview he expressed mo. e
ftIlIv vr hat he sod fntfmsfed M several inter-
views, that one great hiudrauce 10 T1ltons hap
plness and ease OF working was that Elizabeth
did not do her part at home, that she was dis
contented and sullen, and that 1t was inaposSi.
bic 10 expect a man OF genius. and Moulton
work all day, for, he said, isn't IL grand
that he has just gone over there and taken on his
IL he had never had position, and is trying. to
cara his bread He spos OF 1t as Impossible Tor
q man of genius to return home at night and
OF the table sullen aud uncouversabis,
and that II irrtated. he said: This
Is the IN st earnest man 10 be led by his
anything with him, but she must do her part,
and you must help 10 make her. That was the
general form Of his counsel and then he sug-
gested that we unity ourselves, 10
TAKE AWAY ALL FRICTION,
and to give to this new enterprise the advantage
OF perfect unity Of feeling and counsel 1t would
be a good thing If should write letter TO him
ILaughter.l for him TO show 10 Iilton, ex-
to an expression of cordiality toward
him, and also n letter to Mrs. Tilton.
any living being, in order 10 bring her under
Moulton's counsel, which would be concurrent
With my counsel and Judgment and SO he fam,
happy home Cor him, J would help him, Frank
would help, our friends would asln him, and
with bis power and experience and sklll, ne
through all the land. / thought that II was
not an unwise plan. L wrote the letts RS TO
q. You o1o have spoken heretofore of M9ultonS
saying that the principal thing TO be done was
that Bowen should put 1ilton back on the Inde-
pendent. Previous to this cp-.T1rsati0n you
how speak of had you heard t. any way
from Moulton whether mat expectation or plan
bad or not been abandoned? \. He told me
Bowen had reflected on IL, end he did not see
how IL could be, how he could put him back.
Q Ard this had preceded your conversation
was somewhere about the 18th or lStb, and this
WIS in February. Just before this-iThe witness
was here handed two letters Q. Please say III II
wroie7 A. Yes, that Is the one 70
Moulton and this Is the one to Mrs. Tflton. q.
Now, there is a third tietter from Mrs. r.
Ao llton of the same date Please look at that
and say whether you saw that about tde time o.
not certainly say whether saw il after that
There was no concurrent interview following
the writing OF these letters. Q. And your two
letters were written independently OF seeing
This. A. Yes. without seeing that at al. q.
This letter ter Mr. to Mrs IIlton % hsgtnf ,
did not ever expect to see you again or TO be
alive many days. God was kinder 10 me thar
time pfior to The 7th of February that
you had seen Mrs. Tilton? A. / suppose
had moi seen her since the interview OF Deeem-
Hlr.l n That Ia nTIR a
is my recollection Of the purport of the opening
sentence. @ And OF the fact that you had moi
pression pres Vines saw you You last aid not ex-
pect TO see you again or TO be alive many days.,
What was there In your situation that led you
to have this impression of the shortness OF your
life? a. shat was the shortness of both OF our
lives. She looked TO me as one already bespoken
for by Gods angels, and IN the terrible wnlrl 10
which.I was subject-in the excitement-it did
not seem to me that could
her life and your feelings that you wroie that
expression? A. Yes. q. Concluding this letter,
do e's eonssit, but he has not seen it. You nm.
derstood that Tilton had not read the letter?
A. Yes. l understood this, but that clause was
the suggestion of Moulton. q. was going on to
the sentence, twill you return 1t 10 me by his
hands. am very earnest in this wish for all
our sakes, as such letter ought not be subject
10 the chance of miscarriage" Was that
clause a subject Of conversation between you
| in al vising the letter? A. 1t was, sir. Q. And
was inserted in the letter? a. IL was
A SUGGESTION
! of his which carried out. 1 gave you the rea-
son stated. Q. Stated by Moulton9 Well
| what did he say? a. can not give you what
he said, but can give you what he suggested
@. Well? A. That Elizabeth would not re.
idea was that If she thought that Tillon and
had got up this letter together ii would not have
| had better suggest 10 her that he hadn't seen
il, and therefore II was my letter and my judg'
ment. q And that was the fact? \. Tnat was
the fact, al least, so far as know. q. And then
ss to the return of the letter 1ou LETT the letter
entity? Beach-No, to be returned. EvaIts-
Iss:dins); co..n1 This sent %.s with Thee
Well. how did you know. O.
how were you advised as to that? A. Moultoo
letter se &c to his Vile with this general design Du
he didn't see the letter. q. And 1t was through
} Moullon that you ieceived that information
and By m his Sdvice. a this is0n leffer Wa
wrltien?, A. Yes, sir Q, Did you reques
to write that letter? A. No. sir. q. From whom
did the communication on the subject first pro
whole proceedings. Q. New, in regard to an,
. arrangements or agreement tnat you should no
5 correspondence with Mrs. Tilton. how did ina
arise? Was there anything of that kind
e rangement. @. What was saio or done by yo
in that connection, If anything? a Ialway
said that it was not. IL was an impropsr thlnt
for me personally to act in this matter witt
Mrs. Il. On eral occasions IL was suggested a
e a natural thing by Moulton that snould Sc
, her, and L declined always. @. Wha
was suggested by MOulton? q. Tha
T % should bring my my personal infiuenc
of our different interests, and my leply {
" Moulton.was two-fOld; first, that IT, as ihel
9 believed, MRS. Tiiton hau Transferred TO me az
[ undue measure of affectio ,, my presence W. ul
make matters worse. or, IL using that influence
. | broughther into more harmonious relations
her husband. the sensbility of proud maj
would accept such services at the ham
81 of another very lily, bat would max
Q matters worse on that side, and therefore 70
{ both reasons i had letter not go. O. And s
4 about any writing to her. Were you put unde
any advice or resiIictionsf A. Under none. q
{ Mr.. Beecher, Mr.. Tilton says. in the course G
r his direct testimony, in answer to- this question
kreadingj: before going TO that inter
t view, propose TO ask yo
did you learn from Beecher VIII
. you W re made the bearer OF that letter fror