Gallipolis journal. [volume] (Gallipolis, Ohio) 1837-1919, 1875-08-26
THURMAN ON CARY.
A LETTER OF TRUE In
WARDNESS.
A Rich Denunciation of Priests
and Rag Money-An I'm
done Democracy
What a Visitor
Overheard.

What q Visitor
Overheard.
[Put-in-Bay Correspondence Cleveland
Lcader.l
1t was the privilege Of our cores
pondent to be the unintentional us
tener Sunday forenoon about IL
o'clock to conversation between
Senator Thurman and Mr.. Cook, of
Cincinnati. on the political situa
ton in Ohio IN general, and on Sam
Cary in particular. The expressions
of opinion bv the Senator were so en-
phatic and l might say truthful, that
/ am impelled at the risk of being
considered an eavesdropper to give
verbatim and truthful report as near
as l can. l excuse myself for so do
ing on the ground that as everything
is fair in war, so it is in politics. |
was sitting reading on the lawn in
front of the Put-in-Bay House, when
these gentlemen came and seated
themselves close by me, and / was
compelled to hear their conversation
in spite of myself
Mr.. Cook, in the course of the
conversation, expressed poor opin-
ion of Sam. Cary, saying he was too
much of a dead weight for the party
to carry, and that the party made a
great mistake in nominating him, SO
much so that the ticket was in absO-
lutte danger of defeat.
Mr.. Thurman responded saying
that he agreed with Mr.. Cook, that
he had no respect for Mr.. Cary as
he considered him mere political
adventurer, narrow-minded, perfect
ly unprincipled, with an active mind,
but totally unbalanced. He believed
him to be an unscrupulous dema-
gogue, one whose great forte is to ap-
peal to the passions of his hearers, in
fact, he considered Cary to be an out
and out Communist. AS for him
self, the Senator said under no cir
cumstances would he speak at the
same meeting where Sam Cary WAS
to speak, for his own self-respect for
|, bade him to be seen in his company.
He said he never heard Cary but
twice in his life, and did not wish to
,, hear him again under any circum-
| stances, so great was his feeling 0l
contempt for that hypocritical tenn
perance spouter. He heard him de-
liver q temperance lecture in
/, Columbus from the west end
: OF the State House some years
| ago, but his yituperative abuse
of men who dealt in liquors was Sc
violent and slanderous that he only
remained few moments and came
away disgusted. The next time he
G heard Sam was at GAINESVILLE, during
4 the campaign of '72, when he Thur
man had an appointment TO speak.
When he arrived at the place OF
: meeting he found, much 10 his sur
4 prise, that Sam Cary was announced
. as one of the speakers, and he was
: : compelled in spite Of himself to lis
a ten to him.
g Mr.. Cook remarked that it wa:
: very unfortunate for the Democracy
: that the Catholic question had beer
brought in; that it was going to re
= suit in many Democrats voting witt
: the Republicans, and many mqre il
!, staying away from the polls. HI
Il feared that this alone would lose thu
c State to the Democracy.
y Mr.. Thurman replied, emphatical
!, ly; ayes, we shall lose the State
# the id priests haye oyerdQne TIP
c thing by sticking their noses into gu
t, politics, and they deserve to b.
= + beaten to teach them their place
n The Democracy only have themselve
I, to blame in submitting to the de
: mands of the priests in the way the.
# did. It was unfortunate indeed, tha
= !, the Catholic question was lugge'
# into the campaign. The Democrac,,
d was the only party that ever did any
d thing for the Catholics, and it woul'
h seem that the more that is done 70
= them the more they will demand
a. Their arrogance is insuilerabie, an
as we shall be defeated any way,
hope it will hereafter teach thes
n meddlesome priests n lesson tina
II they will understand-that is, to lie
II politics alone. | FOR 9qe dent pr9
S pose to stand any further nonsens
P from these fellows" :"
&c The Senator vent on to defend til
# position he took in his Mansfield
speech, saying that he had been mos
ontrageously abused and misrepre
is sented by the Republican press: tha
had he come ont fiat fOOtedly in OF
8: position to the financial plank in tn
,r State platform, he would have bee
10 more bitterly abused by his own pal
ty press than he was by the Kepqbl
can press for tho position he had ia
A. ken in that speech; therefore thq
is position was the best for his 0w
il personal interest.
- The above report of the converse
tiOn is correct as far as sentiment
IL uttered were concerned, the iangHag
to may vary little. His expression
st in regard to Cary, the priests, and az
10 knowedging that the State was los
/ are given in his exact language.
= VISITOR.
% 1t is proper to state that Senate
Thurman pronounces the above
H. Tissue of falsehoods," but the II
- porter backs up his statement wit
, the following affidavit:
Estate OF OHIO,
:" CUYAHoGA County,, 5. 5.
III "E. c.. Nelson, of lawful age, bt
OIL ing duly SWORN, upon oath says
,e That be is resident Of the city {
Il Cleveland, that he is the author
o. the communieatiGa oyer the signs
;. ture of Visitor published in th
- Cleveland Leader under date OF Al
= gust Is, 1875, narrating converss
erl ton that occurred between Nj