New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-01

near M can remember; II might have been little moro
or a little less; would not be positive.
O. And at that conversation your brother was presentf
A. No.
Q. Wasn't hot A. No, Sir
Q. I mlsundcrstood when he said that hs had not
burnedi A. No. Mr. Tilton was present Mr.. Mouton and
myself, nobody else.
O. Well msrecoected Well, that was ten days after
the award or feen that Mr. MOutOn said that he had
not burned the apology Of Mr. Bcecher VIII you please
repeat it, Well, this the conversation as SAID
It commenced tho rpartc settlement; az far as
remember, had not had any talk with him before,
and was telling him that Mr Bowen felt that we brought
in too large sum- and that his felt aggreyed, and
then Mr. Moulton during this cOnversatOnMr Moulton
said that Sam wkeson had either him written
him, I wouldn't be positive which
Mr.. Tracy-Spcak little louder please II you can.
The wness-That Sam wikeson had him or
written him that he wanted to burnto be sure burn
Mr. Beechers apology and all the papers and Mr. MOul
ton says OF course says he, have burned all the
papers, and laughed and he says "Mr Beecher thinks
have and he says, Sam WilkesOn thinks have
burned all the papers. no Is mistaken. What would
Theodore do with his troubles"
O. You told him that Sam Wkcson bad written to Mr..
Mouton to burn the apology and all the papersi
Mr.. Tracy-Oh, no he has not said any such thing.
The Witness-NO that MOulton-
Mr. Bcacli-Will the stenOgraphcr read tho answers
TIE TRIBUNE stenographer read tho answer, fol
lows
"That Sam wilkeson had seen him or written him -
Mr. Tracy-Bcgn just back Of that.
Mr.. Beach-NO, begin just there.
THE TRIBUNE stenographor lreadingl
"That Sam Wlkeson had seen him or written him that
he wanted him to burn-to be sure and burn Mr. Beech
crs apology and all the papers"
Mr.. Beach-Exactly.
Mr. Tracy-I submit that you read Just back OF that.
THE TRIBUNE stenOgraphcr [readingl:
As far as now remember had not had any talk with
him before. and telling him that Mr.. Bowen felt
that brought in too large and that his felt
aggrioved anil thon Mr. Moulton during this converse
ti0n-Mr Moulton said that Sam Wilkeson had either
seen him or written him. wouldn't DO positive which
Mr.. Tracy-Speak little louder, please, if You can.
The WitneSs-That Sam WilkesOn had seen him writ
ten him that he wanted him 70 burnto be and burn
Mr. Beecher's apology and all the papers
Mr. Beach-wll you look that letter OF Mr. Wike-
son and see II there anything said about oil tho pa
persp Handing witness letter A. have never
seen that.
O. Well want to convince you that you made an mac
curate report A. Well don't know anything about the
letter; can only state what Mr. Mouton said.
@. Well will you swear that in giving that remark you
used the exact language OF Mr. M0ultonl A. think
did, Sir the exact language.
Q. The exact language of that rcmarkf A. Yes, Sir.
O. Now repeat it in the exact languagel A. Well, the
whole nversationf
O. No, Sir that remark which you say you give in the
ton said that sorfc-
O. He didn't say it in that languagei A. Yes, Sir
Q. He did; precisely that languagel A. He called him
"Sam Wilkeson."
@. Mr.. MoutOn said that In that exact language. Go
ont A. Well, am only telling you conversation
this morning; wouldn't state that every identical word
was the
@. Very well; then don't say that y,u can that is tho
that asked you repeat it, BECAUSE you said you
could A. The most OF it can state absolutely; he says
"If Sam WilkosOn thinks -
Q. The only point want to know IL, You stated that
you gave that remark i'll the precise language in which
Mr. M0ulton uttered it A. Well, think did.
Q. Then want you to give the precise language Of
that renarki A. He says: "If Sam Wikcson thinks l
have burned all those papers he Is Mistaken" that be-
leye to be exactly the way he said it,
Q. Siri A. believe that to be exactly the way he
said it.
O. Well ia that all in regard to the paper that you
give precise languagei A. Well tine whole that have
named believe to be
@ No; don't want what you believe Sir. A. Well, as
1 said this morning
O. Well, il You put it that ground, Mr. StOrrs am
perfectly satisfied Now you have not given quite all Of
il: will you follow tho conversation little further
A. lie says, what would Theodore do ia case OF
troublep
O. DO you recollcct anything mOro A. don't call to
mind this moment.
Mr.. Bcach-That Is all, Sir.
Mr.. Tracy-One word, Mr.. Storrs.