New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-01-12

ante correct for technically neither OF theso gen
tlemen is an officer of the House. Neither
WAS employed by him to work for the subsidy OF
paid by him for work for the subsidy. lie says lie
requested them to watch the movements OF inc
lobby sent here to work against the SUBSIDY, anu
also the other steamship men who were trying 10
saddle his bill with their schemes and report to
him. After the bill passed. he ordered Albert TO
make them each handsome present, indicating the
amount. MI. Irwin Gays that some comment
having been made upon the discrepancy between
the compensation of Mr.. Averill and that of Gov.
Randall. under whom Mr.. Averill worked. 1t ~
proper for him to say that Gov. Randall had pre-
yiouslv received large proportion of his compensa-
ton as we'll as payment for his expenses, and that
in fact Gov Randall had been employed i'll regard
TO this business continuously since the session OF
1S69-70.
SCUITMAKER's METHOD OF PAYING $4,000
CONGRESSMAN STORM AND PARKER TESTIFY THAT
THEY WERE NOT DIRECTLY APPROACHED
LYMAN EIMoRE AT WHOSE OFFICE sCHUMAKER
PAID GEN. SMITH, TELLS HOW IT WAS DONE
DOUBTS AS TO WHICH GEN. SMITH THIS WAS
GENERAL PRESS DIsPATcH.l
WASHINGTON, Jan. 1.-THE Ways and Means
Committee continued the Pacific bail investigation to
dav John B. Storm, member of Congress from Penn
syvania appeared aud testified that Congressman Ran
dali was mistaken in understanding min TO say that he
had been approached Influence his vote on the suo-
sidy question. what no (Mr. Storm told him two years
ago was in general terms that lie knew OF member
having been so approached. The facts were these
Witness was told about years ago by Congressman
porkor Of Eew-Hampshire that while the vote was
taken on the subsidy amendment, and he was coming
down stairs in the Capitol, total stranger offered "
give him 81 900 il he would go back TO the gallery ana
not vote.
Mr. Parker remarked to witness that he ought to nave
knocked the scoundrel down the stairs witness voted
against the subsidy.
Lyman Elmore OF Brooklyn testihed-1s an attorney
atlaw has an office in Wilam-st, NewYork, but is III
Washington about half Of each year attending to bus-
ness for railroad companies ana other clients before inc
departments has never done any business TOT the
Pacific Mail Company was never employed by or re-
ceved a dollar from them; never aoVocated the RACINE
Mail subsidy or any other.
The witness then, In response TO questions uescr"ou
bis connection with the payment Of the $4,000
in his Office by Mr.. Schumacher to Gen. sinith'
Witness while in Washington IN May, 1872 was intro
duced by some person, whom he does not now remem-
ber to General Smith, and met the latter occasionally
that he had merely casual acquaintance WIN In'
One day Smith stopped hin on the street and asKao nun
II he knew the NewYOrk attorney OF the Pdcllc MAI
Companys witness replica he did not know who was
the Company New-YOrk attorney bul he knew Almost
ali the lawyers in New-YOrk. Smith sad they are gong
TO nav me some money. viii you identify met Witness
passed and thought no more OF the matter t tnree
Or
AT his Office and said he had check for 10000 which tne
Pacific Mail Company bad greeted nm 10 maui W
Elmore, or Gilmore would indicate witness
re piled he must mistaken but then remembered ana
told Schumacher what this Gen. Smith had shd n rev
days previously, whereupon eehnmakeI san, dnatS
the man." aud exhibited tue $4,000 check Witness re-
marked, "You are not going TO make payme On III "a
check are you3" Schumacher then went out 10 get III
cashed. Soon aferward Gen. Smith came H. anu ASKED
permission TO wait III the Office III Schunahrr snouiu
more said TO Schumacher, This Is the Gen. eni'h
who says you are to pay him some money
hills and left the Office. witness remarked joculary to
Cen smith, Isn't that too much for one Man 10 carry
divide. have to pay this out" WIFE ' earned notn,
ing about the transaction, and lot Washington
The following Winter he was introduced by either
Gen. Ingerso or Congressman Conor o. 4exas 20 Gen;
the Smith above referred TO- WitaesS supposed
he was the SnVs ceTsea your
He does remember what reply was made. witness,
the time the $4,000 was PAID khe" nothing Whatever
of Gen. Smiths initials, associations, or history; out
was IL not Giles H. smith or Baby onlth
Iu Snt! had Understood he was in tine lobby but on
the other hand doubts whether IL was Morgan H. smith,
for two reasons first because the latter beng very
1.-The raj man would not probably have made use OF hun
and his Office without Offering something more than
thanks; second because when witness the year after
ward became well acquainted with Morgan l.. Smith.
and indirectly referred 10 the occurrence in his ON &c,
smith manifested no know ge OF it. Witness
marked 10 him suppose will both be brought into
this investigation; whereat Smith expressed SURPRISE
and said he tell all he knew the subject IN few
witness advised Schumacher against payment by
check simply because he knew some people were timld
about taking checks and preferred cash. He did not
vouch for lde Iy Smith IN the Ordinary sense OF the
term, and surprised that 70 tfng an indentihca-
ton was deeDed sufficient; supposes his office was
made use OF merely because he was known to the Pa
ci1c Ill Company as q New-York lawyer.
Hosea W. Parker, Congressman from wHampshire,
being sworn, testified that lie approached by
anybody the subsidy question; did not remember
acy what lie had said TO Congressman Storm but tho
latter must have misunderstood hun. Witness had an
indistinct recollection that when coming down the
from tue ladies' gallery when the vote was being
taken on the subsidy, he overheard some talking
at the foot OF the stairway saying something TO the
effect that Congressman VINO did not want TO vote for
the subsidy need not vote at all
MIR. Beck-Do MT you think these men were talking at
you3 A. Well, that may be don't know.
Witness certain lie was never approached by any
body In regard his vote; and matter OF fact he
recorded voting against the suDsidy every time
and all the way through.
Chas. ADert reappeared and informed the Committee
that he sliu declined TO until compelled to by
order of the House. The Committee adjourned.