New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-21

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CONVERSATIONS OF Mr.. BEECHER WITH
HIS LAWYERS AND TIE MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE
Q. Don't you rccOllect the press generally
throughout ths country far 1t fell under your OBJ
servaton denounced in the bitterest possible terms, Mr.
Moulton for having levied blaclma upon youf A. /
don't think ever read newspaper with that In IT,
@. No allusion to it, A. I don't think read news
paper during all that time that touched upon that sub
ject
O DID ION not hear from varous quarters that Mr..
Moon WA condemned in unmeasurcd terms for having
levied blaekmail upon you A. Not mucA; was out OF
O. Where were youi A. White Mountains.
O. You didn't hear it thercl A. may have heard 1t,
but don't recOlect.
O. Don't you reoolect whether you did hear it mott
A. do not
O. what occurred in October 1874, which brought you
10 the conclusion that this hacltnai A. Tho same
things that had operated in tho beginning
O. The talk with Mr. Tracy and Mr.. Shearman. wasitf
A. Er Tracy and Mr.. ahearman, and Mr.. Wnsow. and
Mr. Sage and Mr. storrs, and Mr.. Cleveland and-who
else did talk to IknOw didn't talk to anybody about
this tine that did not push me in that direction
O. You talked to them all upon this subject OK black
malt A. cannot say | talked TO them ALL but thnK
IL quit, likely talked TO them Mr. Sage reooliect
talking WITH AMI have an impression talked Win sr'
Winsow.
yer
O. He thought it blsoSmai. didn't he A. think ne
did.
q Don't Won recoleet whether he did or not A. I
talked also with Mr. Bartlett.
O. What Mr. Bartlett 4. o +. Bartlett Is it'
Mr. shearman-w o. Bartlett
Mr. FnIertOn-W. o. Bartlett.
Tho i+nass-W q Bartlett OF NewYOrk-
Mr. Fulerton--when did you talk with Mr. Winsi0w
about I'll A. | could not say 1t was some time
q About what timei A. talked with Mr. Winslow
about II during the month Of August.
O And he thought II was backmai then, did mel A
have an impression that he did
O. You talked with these men after they were put ON
the Committee, did yOui A. Yes Sir.
O. And they insisted upon II 20 yon that this was oac
r,au1 4 Members OF the Committed do not think
talked with them much as dd with the lawyers that
were employed by the Committee
o Wei did you talk with members ~ the Committee
be,ber il was "a much as you talked with the lawyers
or notq A. think talked with some members OF the
Committee.
q what member of the Committee did Won talk with
about the blaclmai A. II were 70 say that certainly
Of any one should say Will MIR. Cleveland and with Mr.
Sage.
O. Wei now with any othersi A. cannot say posi-
t1veIv str II ia quite possible that talked with Mr.
storrs although DO not recOuect 1t distinctly
O. This was before the evidence was taken before the
Committee was it mott A. 1t was while the Committee
were taking the evidence
O. Was il before your evid talten A. cannot
say positively about that.
O What Il your best recollection about tf A. TALKED
also with Mr. ROssiter decentralization w. Ray
moni
Mr. Fullorton-Yes, a very excellent man. take IT,
The witness-Yes; ouly his hand was heavy on me-
Mr. Fulerton-Weu, you had q hard time Of 1t, no
doubt.
The Wtness-I did.
O WIN ron tell me what other members Of the Com
r,ittee YOU talked to the subject Of bacfmau' A
cannot tell you any more distinctly.
O. And whether it was before after you gave your
evidence be fore the A. think talked with
the members Of the Committee, with the exception OF
MI Cleveland probably, afterward, but think that
@ After WHAT A. talked with Mr.. Sherman, with
M Cleveland and with Mr.. Raymond while was max
ing my statement
O. While you were preparing ~ A. Yes, Sir
@ And before you delivered it to the Committed A.
Before delivered 1t TO the Committee
O. Was Mr. Raymond member Of the Committeef A.
| No, Sir
O Mr. Cleveland west A. Yes, Sir
@ What relation die you bear to Mr. Clevelandi A.
was his pastor.
! @ Any other reIationf A. No other.
o. AM business relatoni A. 1872; at that time he
was
| Mt. shearman-1s14.
Mr.. FUlerton-1s74
The witness-In 1874 bore no direct business rela
tons with him.
@ Indirect did you bear any relations 20 him A. Yes,
CIR he was employed by j. b. Ford Co.. who were the
| publishers OF The Christian Union, by the publishing
assOciatiOn-the managers
O. How long before that had you appointed him the
Committee before this conversation in regard 70 black
mail A. requested him TO On the Committee on
| the 26th OF June.
| O. Did he CONSENT A. Yes, Sir
O. Did he undertake TO convince you It was black
| mall A. He never had any other opinion.
O. Did he undertake to convince you was blaclrnan
A. don't remember that he made a set-to on me-
but the constant tendency Of his view aud con-
! versation.
O. And that was before you made your statement TO the
Committee A. DeioroI made my statement to the Com
mitteo.
| O How did he learn the factsi A. In regard TO itt
| Y Yes. a. lie had other experiences beside m!ne-