The Cairo bulletin. [volume] (Cairo, Ill.) 1872-1878, 1875-12-15
WHAT SEIZURE SAYS.
40 Never Engaged in o Conspi-
racy With Gen. Henderson,,
and Advised the Good
DIR. Preetorious to
GO Slow.
The whisky Ring Considered as au
Element of In1iUcNcc tn the Re.
1fAl publican Politics OF
}.lA MISSOURI.

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| Ex-senator Carl SEIZURE has been inter
viewed by New York Tribune reporter
relative to the report lately published, TO
the effect that President Grant had
charged that Henderson. ia assailiDg his
official family, was conspiring with
Schurz. and that they were old and pres
ent political allies. Mr.. Schurz starts of
by ridiculing the ilea that President
Grant had used the language attributed
to him, believing that IL was either with
ont foundation or grossly misrepresented
by the reporter who sent 1t from wash
ington. lie says ob>cquently, regarding
It:
| should like to speak OF this respect
fully, but find it difficult to do it seriously.
| If had any connection ut all with these
whisky trials, the charge might appear
Ineligible, but the fact is that opera
tons against the whisky ring in st.
Louis begun while was IN Europe.
have not seen Mr.. Henderson for nearly
a year. and have had no communication
| with him, or any connection with the
persecution. II had escaped my attcn-
ton that Avery had been indicted until
the trial began. The other day read in
the Herald that some members OF the
presidents family had said that the pros
ccutiOn OF Gen. Babcock was a conspir-
acy between high officials in the Treat
| ury, and said to myself: "Did that mean
| Bristow! 1t seems 10 me that there is
general impression that Babcock got
! himself into trouble by entering Into tele-
graphic correspondence with set of
men now IN the penitentiary.
NEVER KNEW w.
IN the papers, also, that Ia White
| House circles. Henderson IL talked of as
politically cooperating with me in 1872,
aud hence this conspiracy. The fact Is
that Henderson was a candidate of the
Grant party In st. Louis in December,
1872, and in January, 1873, was a candi.
date for the scnatorship OF the same party
against Senator Bogy. Henderson has
always. since the war, been a member of
the Republican party. IL was charged
some time ago, that first charged Bah
cock with being In completely with the
whiskey ring. On the contrary, | went
to the editor of the st. Louis paper with
which | am connected. demonstrating
against any charge against Babcock or
anybody else for which conclusive proof
was not at hand, and insisted especially
that no suggestion of any completely of
the president with the ring should be
made, because really believed there was
no ground for it. OF course.
THINK THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY
CLEAR.
Of any such completely, aud | have al
ways said so. The real difficulty with
the president is that he has given his con-
fidence to set OF men who turned out to
he great rascals, and he seems determine
ell not To withdraw that confidence until
they are actually convicted and sent to
the peniteentiary. When Gen. Melon
aid was appointed supervisor Of Internal
revenue. my colleague. MIR. Drake, and
myself. went to the treasury to protest
against it--not for any political reasons,
nor TO favor any other candidate, but be.
cause Gen. Mcdonald was known in st.
Loul. rs desperate man. and We both
predicted that the appointment would
certainly corrupt the service there. Sim
liar remonstrances were made by most of
the members oil the Missouri delegation,
and Il very large number OF the most re-
spectacle citizens of st. Louis.
THE COURT OF INQUIRY.
Q.-What do you think of the military
court Of inquiry OIL Babcock's case: A
| thought from the very first that it was
a great mistake There is a law prohibit
ing an army officer from holding any
civil appointment. and that, if he does.
he shall forfeit his commission. From
this 1t would appear that Babcock is no
officer of the army ut all. Then besides,
do not see upon what principle OF pub
lie policy conspiracy to deiraud the
revenue should be submitted to q military
court and, finally, it seemed to me that
such measure was placing the army in
very Glsagrccable situation. No mill.
tary court could possibly have the evil
dence OH the case completely mt it, dis
posal as could civil court. and il on such
incomplete evidence, they had rendered
verdict that afterward by q trial in civil
court had been shown to be wrong, the
officers composing the military court
might be placed in a very false position,
in spite of their own desire TO do Justice.
| think 1t very wise for them to adjourn
until the proceedings IN the ordinary
courts OF law were completed.
POLITICAL INFLUENCE OF THE RING.
Q.-ilas the whisky ring in st. Louis
exercised much influence in the politics
OF Missouri: Al think it has, and | |
can give you one striking incident. Last
year Citizens ticket" was nominated
Tor State officers from governor down.
A majority of the Republican party
'Houpul Wise lOt W make Alv Durty |
nominations, but to support that ticket |
80 as to rescue the State from the con-
troll of tile Bourbon Democratic element
then in power. The whisky ring OPP
posed this movement strenuously, and,
when the Republican State convention
had resolved bya large majority not to
make any nominations of their own, but
to support the "Cltizcns' ticket" the
ring used their whole influence to tie
feat the ticket, in which they succeeded.
They succeeded also in having Mcguire,
who /. now indicted for completely IN
The whisky ring, nominated for Mayor
OF 81. Louis, but were disastrously de-
lcatcd in the election.
QUESTION AND ANSWER IRRELEVANT,
GuI WORTH PRINTING.
Q.-W hat do you think of the reconl-
lnehdations OF the president concerning
The school question aud the influence of
the Catholic church Al think they
are in principle correct enough, and in
my state myself and friends have always
most earnestly worked in that direction.
without discussing the policy Of extend
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