The New York herald., 1875-12-18
Leading Clergymen Of the Wesleyan
Church Surprised and Pained.
BISHOP HAVEN REBUKED,
The Differences Between the Northern and
Southern Churches Dragged In.
POLITICAL NTERMEDDLING CONDEMNED.


The general feeling among the clcrgymen Of the
Methodist Church is Of surprise and regret at tho
proceeding Of Bishop haven. Though holding to the
opinion that even II formal resolution plcdging the
meeting had been carried Il would not bind any one
beyond IT, they confess 10 a strong opinion that his
championship OF the President would have been much
better len undone This does not arise nom any lean
ing TO 'thrd termism " as one Of them said TO me 70
day but from sense OF the worse than ludcrous posi-
ton into which three hundred grown men have
got themselves by touching such eonlessedy delicate
subject ssv acclanaon and thus having their cham
MON speaker Professor Wells, who enlightened them
on the struggle OF Bismarck and the Pope, out In
an apologize letter trying TO make light OF the
der as possible II certainly looks as If he thought
that there something to be ashamed Of whom he
deems requisite undeceive the public or their rst
impressions TO the whole proceeding.
REy. CHESTER '. RuRDicK
presiding elder considers that from what has recently
appeared the subject the report Arst given Of the
proceedings OF the Methodist Preachers Union at Bos
ton have been considerably oycrsatcd in It's
ratye and overratcd in its importance Such meetings
are recognized formal assemblages OF the Acho
dist Church. being merely monthly gathering Of
preachers listen and discuss papers submitted for
consideration At those meetings many conversations
arise various topics but no one considers that in
thanking any for his contribution 10 the nforma-
ton or those present the meeting pledgng itself to
follow out oil that tho speaker may have given utter
ancc TO- Ho would be very much surprised to learn
that Methodist Church prepared support the
President in seeking for another term Judging from
his Message to Congress and other indications he does
not that he is seeking Il that he had
any such intention.
HENRY GRAHAx,
or tho Ash Grove Methodist Episcopal church. considers
the proceedings OF Bishop Haven es very foolish exh
bition altogether, for resolution agreement there
entered into would bind any beyond the meeting
20 any whatever The Methodist Church, as
far as learn opposed the third term pro-
jcot and this win probably have tho effect or strength
oning aud giving force to the opposition For him
SELF no is not in favor OF third term for President
Grant He has done well up this time it is true
but he could not see why any would think OF
clccting him again He does not attach any weight TO
the proceeding at the Boston Methodist Preachers
Union as though they thanked the speaker for his
Dress il is vol known that such docs not Identify
those present in the sentiments expressed theron.
B. b. LOOMS
or the Grace Methodist Episcopal church. considers
that the actions Of Bishops Haven and simpson, though
very different character, viii materially tend the
injury Of Grants third project especially that
The former, as being premature and lnjudicous- II
Bishop Haven intended doing harm that cause he
could not have adopted any enectual TO
accomplish his end Personally he does approve OF
''shrd tcrmsm," and, judging by indications, ho
thinka that people seem 10 have made up their minds
not to have IL. The Methodist Church is by
bound BY anything which took place at the meeting,
could be bourd politically 70 adopt any
body Tor each member is free 70 act In any manner
he thaks most conducive to the welfare OF the country
M'LAUGHLIs,
ofthe Methodist Episcopal Church does no. at all ap-
prove Or nc proceeding Of Bishop Haven He con
siders i unwso step and one certain not TO be
followed by the Methodist Church. As q citizen he
would vote Tor Grant as the best man under the cir
cumstanccs but Is not ia favor Of third term even
Of the establishment OF precedent Tor such course
n doing so can be avoided by finding another
equally desirable n all respects and one who can be
relied on for similar qualities 10 emergency. He
fully approves Of Grants regarding the public
schools and Of his generally, but docs not think 1t
desirable that any man should have long tenure Of
Office as reelection for third term would imply for
sEy. nuFrs WENDELL,
Of tho East Albany Methods, Episcopal church. from
his knowledge Of tho constituent clemeuts Of the Bos
ton preachers meeting aud tile nature or the proceed
ings which take place there, taken IN conjunction with
the letter OF explanation which has appeared from
Professor Wells does not attach any Importance TO the
remarks ~ Bishop Haven The proceedings there are
never very formal nature and he can well undor-
stand how motion Of thanks TO the speaker would
have been taken mp and voted by Hcciamati0n. lie
considers that the matter has no political significance
whatever, certainly not influencing the members Of
the Methodist Church. and that wli pass away from
notice and ubsde ID the current OF The events Of the
day.
Rxy. D. DoRRELL,
Of tho African Methodist Episcopal church, considers
the proceeding of Bishop Haven TO be unbecoming for
ono in his position very udscrect and completely out
OF place such assemblage where there usti.
hcatlon for the introduction Of any political matter.
lie consider that Bishop Haven's opinion and
acton reflect tho feeling Of the Methodist Church
this question and cannot but believe that the third
term cause VIII be Affected inur0usly by the course
adopted in this instance lie s not aware OF any steps
being about 70 be taken to reprdatc sWeh action but
would not bo surprised to learn that may yet be done
WHITAKER,
Of the Central Methodist Episcopal church.
deems IL an outrage the Methodist Church. and one
certain 70 be resented and ropudisled by H. He views
fa1 1YfF feH NtUr
as Bishop Haven 70 have been weeks before.
hand invited 70 attend the meeting wh.ch was ID some
rcscais the feelings Of the Methodist Church on tho
third term question, though no immediate steps may
be takcRto disown the apparent authority with which
thc opinion and desire wero manifested General
Frank Blair said seven years ago that Grant would
never he removed from the Presidency save by force
aud Mr. Whitaker fears that from recent exhibitions
the prophecy may prove true II tho Roman Catholics
had gone 50 Tar IN sucn = matter the whole nation
would very properly cry out against them lie docs
not zee why any other denomination should arrogate
70 itscfsu privilege at religious assomblage.
REV. THOMAS KELLY,
Of tho Trinity Methodist Episcopal church, thinks that
on the subject From the explanations which have
followed the nrst report Or the meeting he considers
that there was nothing formal, and, consequently
nothing 6nding on any one, even on those present.
ny what s stated 20 have taken place The Methedists
here aud eise"here would not allow themselves to be
Usgsed mo such course by any man and would de-
g have any eject u the direction Of third Term
ton for Grant
Of the Methodist Episcopal church Greenbush Rensse.
lacr county considers Bishop Haven as very unroru-
nate both u bis writings and spcakngs He seems 10
Je az inpulsive, sefw lied impossible 70 control.
Hc does not consider that the Methodist Church Is
likely 70 be Influenced BY him. and does not think Il 10
be. ~ body favorable % Third term. Al a preach.
ers meeting held here two weeks ego tho third torn
sublect was Incidentally alluded to, and u unaui-
inousy denounced project 10 be thought Of a.
undesirable Tor the interests 81 the country.
REV !. T., MErCALP
OF the Methodist Episcopal church u East Albany
Rensselaer, county regrets that such course was
adopted for cannot have any effect on the vote Of the
Methodist Church It's the more to be regretted that
what apparently i the initiatory step in such cam
pagn should have been taken at q religious meeting
where such subjects should never be introduced H9
thinks Il probable that action may be taken IN
rolerence 70 u al the Troy Conference " be held in
April next
REy W. DAYTON