The New York herald., 1875-12-22

ticket Judge Elcock a. the previous election dd ior
ROMAN CATHOLICS M THE PHILADELPHIA RING.
Mayor Stokley distinctly disavowed all knowledge on
snch organization, saying at the samo time that ne
would prefer not express any opinion upon the subj
ject The great majority OF the Roman Catholics IN th
city democratic in their tendencies, but the mil
nonty many OF whom men Of influence, WELD q
power In the 'rtng which His Honor Is powerless IU
prevent he disposed
OTHER BLIssYUILY IGsoRAsr PERSONS
The City Treasurer Is unaware Of the existence on
an u me o he snh
jeci, denying all knowledge OF the society, quite az
number believing that it was set up, TO use com-
mon phrase by the leaders OF the opposition. Thot
members OF city government, in council also pro-
fess ignorance upon the question, but few having
heard Of Order visit 70 the principal officers %
the Union League had like result far as dscoverI
ing any membership In that circle
DISCUSSION AND SPECULATION IN PITTsBURG-'
THE MAsoNs AND THE CATHOLICS.
PrrsBURG Pa, Dec. p, 1875.
Especially in journalistic ard political circles the
pose in the HERALD of to-day OF organization
known as the Order of the American Union was the
occasion Of no little discussion and speculation The
conclusion arrived al in almost every instance is that ID
such secret political organization exists all II Isl
confined exclusively to certain districts in the East and
has that widespread circulation and influence in
the West claimed for It After careful inquiry among
persons who should be cognizant of the %
any society this end OF the the concusoR
there Is no organized body hostile the Catholic clergy
laity and in the interest," body and soul of the pres
ent administration
PosrMAsrER HRGLEY
never heard tell the Order of the American Union,
and, though a member OF several secret Orders they
were utterly and entirely free from the mixture Of re-
hgon with politics He did not believe any one In his
employ had connection any way or form with such
society. Collector Of Customs Steel said he had NO
faith in such organization, and, though he held
political position, not at the sacrifice OF his mans
hood Ho had no intimate friend connected with anT
that therc Order Of the American Union in tbe{
city Of Pttsburg. He believed religion and polticsi
should be separate and distinct for the sake OF the'
happiness and prosperity Of the country G. Shidle,
OF the Scottish Rites in Masonry and member OF other
secret bodies never heard Of the Order Of the Americans
Union
THE MAsoSs OF PIrrsBURe
have introduced many Catholics and welcome them tA
the ranks OF the Order the same as persons from any
other denomination John Robinson, Post Grand
sachem OF the order OF Red Men and representative %
the Great Council OF the United States, had no know-j
edge Order in this end of the State and vast
conversant with nearly all the secret Orders Youri
correspondent had this afternoon with AZ
representative workingman, who holds position in
nearly all OF the workingmen's societies. The Junior
Sons OF '76 was the only Order hereabouts that wasl
spreading but this purely in the interest OF the
workngmen and had no connection with reiigion orr
politics.
ORIGIN OF THE KNOW NOTHING MOVEMENT IN
eRANT-cATHoLIo OPINION OF THE ''ovER-
sHApowNa IssUE"-METHoDIsTs DIVIDED.
CINCINNATI Dec 81 1875.
Your representative to-day interviewed r. H. ste>
phenson Surveyor OF this port; Gustav wahle Post
master; w. NJ ADpt exCounty Prosecuting Attorney
julius Blackburn, ex-Clerk of the Common Councili
DR.. Clendenin, Health onicer, all republicans and
Mayor Johnston, democrat, concerning the expose In
this days HERALD OF the Secret American Union.
None OF them knew of such organization having q
branch in this city.
INITIATION THK MOVEMENT
Such a movement was however Initiated In the First
ward OF this city during the crusade excitement At
meeting Of the Crusaders Club, where 800 members
present, John J. Hooker, promi-
nent republican politician and member or the
club, moved TO turn the organization into .
Know Nothing Order. After much discussion thu
notion prevailed. and those opposed invited to-
withdraw from the meeting. subsequently the Order
was changed 70 an anttCatholic organization, and
the same character In nearly every one Of the twenty
fve wards OF the city
KNOW soTHISGrsn AND THE THIRD TERN
In Cleveland the organization Is said 70 number
900 members and minor cities In the State all have
their lodges The movement gained great head
way in the recent Allen Hayes campaign when the
school question became prominent issue The object
tinuance OF President Grant in power Several weeks
ago young theological student named Taylor
vasscd the city for MEMBERS stating that the initiation
fee was 81
THE ovKRsHADowIxG rssUE
Father +. q Callaghan, editor OF the Catholic Tee
dph said the HERALD had struck the keynote OF the
Presidential campaign, in which the overshadowpg
would be founded the warfare Catholicism
He knew that American Union existed and that the
leading OF the administration identified with
IT. He had seen pamphlet issued from Washington,
addressed to the league and stating the objects OF the
organization Grants Des Moines speech, his Message
and the letter OF the apostate Catholic, ex-SpeakeF
Blaine TO MT Foster editor Of the Newark Advertiser,
Indicated plainly
rHR CONFLICT IMPENDING
At meeting OF the Methodist Episcopal Union here
yesterday, exciting discussion the presen-
taton OF the following
Having read in tho secular papers account Of the
proceedings Of meeting Of Methodist ministers lately,
held the city Of Boston relating to the nomination OF
President Grant for third term for the Presidency Of
the United States, and having learned with regret haf
Bishop Gilbert Haven made himself especially promi
nent in the matter,
Resolved That, without expressing any opinion ON
the third term movement II Is deliberate judgments
that respected Bishop Haven and the ministry OF
the Boston meeting referred TO were guilty OF very
grave error by thus publicly committing themselves
before the people to political action in this matter
Resolved That ministers Of the Methodist Episco~
pal Church we are unalteraoiy opposed 70 any inter
terence by ecclesiastical bodies with the politics OF the
country
a SUBSTITUTE.
As substitute the following was orered:-
Resolved That while We q body Of ministers, de-
cline 10 express an opinion in regard 10 the election OF
President for third term, We deeply deplore thet
course Of Bishop Haven before the Boston Preachers
meeting IN suggesting the denomination OF Presidens
Resolved, Tha. wc, as ministers OF the Methodist
oPpVocu
ference by ecclesiastical bodies with the partisan poll
tics Of the country.
DIVISION THE QUESTION
Discussion was then renewed and motion 70 inden~
nitey postpone action lost By IA 70 i3 motion
10 lay the table not heard, and amid great
fusion the meeting adjourned They plainly
divided on the question
RAP AT THE "a. o. H."
NEW YoRK, Dec ql, 1873
TO THE EDITOR rHB HERALD-
As you have succeeded In exposing the objects Oh
tho 20. A. u" and the 20. Q. A M, both supposed
70 be anucathOnc societies. viii you ry and give to
the public the objects OF the "A. O. H." who admit
none membership but Irish Roman Catholics, and
also the 81 Patrick Mutual Alliance both Of which
eieties parade streets In large numbers on ST.