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VARIOUS RI MoRs.

VARIOUS vMoRs.
New York, June 30.
This morning the Beecherites continue
to hang to their theory that the jury stand
10 to in favor Of their champion but an
enthusiastic Tiltonte was offering to bet
$500 to $500 that they would be found TO
be eight to four in Tilton's favor, and
found no takers. The indications, how
ever, all seem to point to seven for Beech
er and five for Tilton. All the ballots that
have been picked up show the word "plain-
tiff" in five different hand writings.
UNFouNDED REPORT. i.
In conversation with reporter, Judge
Morris characterizes the statement that
Messrs Beach and Fullerton had deserted
Mr.. Tiltons cause as an utter fabrication,
and said that the greatest unanimity has
prevailed in their deliberations from first to
last.
NEW TRIAL TALKED OF.
Already some of the scandal talk Is about
the probability of new trial. MIR. Morris
said yesterday that his side were ready to
begging within an hour after the discharge
of the jury, using the testimony of Loeder
and Price. The documents presented by
Tilton's counsel in the offer of the testimo-
ny of I.oeder, Price and Legs, were copies
of the original aflidavits. Yesterday Shear
man complained to Judge Nelson that the
originals had not been used aud Morris
promised to produce them.
ANOTHER CALCULATION.
The ballots from the jury-room, picked
up on Friday, are still the basis of puz-
cling calculations, but they only prove
with certainty that Tilton did not have less
than two votes out of eight. Four OF the
jurors seem to have destroyed their ballots.
LOCKED UP FOR THE NIGHT.
The jury entered Judge McCues room at
eight o'clock, and at ten o'clock the court
room was locked up for the night.
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WHOLESALE BRIBERY.

BosToN, June 90.
prominent New York gentleman stop
ing at the Parker house, in this city, in
conversation with a correspondent said that
he was acquainted with Mr.. Carpenter,
foreman of the jury in the Beecher case
and had had business transactions with him
since the trial opened. He says Carpenter
has received money or had it offered to
him by prominent members of Plymouth
church. He was first approached by letter
and after making preliminary arrangements
a meeting was had between.the parties and
he was "ixcd." This is why he holds out
80 long. Besides this bis business interests
were consulted so that he can be indepen-
dent in the future. He received money to
influence other jurymen who were doubt
| full in the case, and was told to
use it freely. One man who was ap-
| preached is now opposed TO Beecher, and
| it is said among his friends that he will ex-
pose the whole scheme when the jury is
discharged. This gentleman told your cor
respondent that he believes the jury can
never agree unless it be by force of money
and influence from outside. He states that
Beecher is not personally aware of these
facts, but that he is in company with
others who subscribed fund to defray ex-
penses, and that $4,000 were appropria-
ted for incidentals outside of counsel fees.
| Tllton's friends, he says, will raise money
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Already some of the scandal talk Is
about the probability of new trial. Judge
Morris said yesterday that his side was
ready to begin within an hour after the
discharge of the jury, using the testimony
of Loeder and Price. The documents pre-
sented by Tilton's counsel, in offer of the
testimony of Loeder, Price and Legs, were
copies Of the original aflidavits. Yesterday
Mr. Sherman complained to Judge Neil
son that the originals had not been used,
and Judge Morris promised to produce
them.
, 1875-04-21
WALKS AND TALKS.
ANT, IHf.tDENTH THEREBY.

The first walk had with Mrt. Tllton waa In
tie summer Of 1871, whom I met her IN the
street accidentally. On onotlor occasion mos
her In Montague Ftroot, and Waited With her to
her houae. ! thnk It wan IN the afternoon.
do not know how many blocks wallsol viii,
llor. tsf. her at tho door. talked with hor.
but not about tho scandal, nor did ask her II
the chaige of winnsux her affections waa ttuo.
l took 1t for granted 1t was. nntl yet walked
with her through tho pnb1'e stree!s. remsln-
Der going wish hor In cnriiaEo to Greenwood.
to bury i,ttla raul. hut ws4 mover Mt rlctu.e'
caslcyy with hor, nor ever visited Hatony With
her.
Tho Court hero took rccesH.
After rsco.B, tho proceedings did not begin
until 20 minutes artor Q. Tho cross-e1aminati.u
Of Mr. leo hEr c0utlMHod.
o@Mr nsssr, t!!d you walk viii. NJ; NJ IT Iil:on 10
tln,e7 A.-Eot s,at roeo.ect slr.
Q.-Ncre sou til ionas Of rcfrrsilsnont. or nystar
saoon viii. i.er in Tic sear ls7l4 ls717 A.-Nos
'ne. p!ps IssS you thini could aye asen place and you
not recolsst III AL don't think It coill.
ows are ye r. o?paou 70 .Tst. roSsTsy 's:
Of my recoection no such tl!!,g ever took rlaes.
Q4-That u ~ fur a. yon go7 A.-As sAr {" I 60.
DANGEROUS GROUND.
OLA theso walks with Mrs.. Tiiton Of whfrh you
Laye arkon OF in these congregations with Mts Til
ton Of which snu haze nposn dd you .du."n 81 her
tuti,cr extent Laa they had ulread, bssn o"lssod
o-Waa I sheso ,' anything upon tlas subject saa7 A.
Q-And you at tho ean.e time. Is ind ..s.and sou,
VA asos!ag under tho .tsg conviction TINT ahe l4
still to erca!er eatcuf, enIs II you ,hsn they had
Q-Yoa tlonsht .iss no iIAsuI.y woull 1osa1. from,
this communication with hos7 AL thought that
D1aithnnUi you deup warn hrr uRa,p.t goiur ans
, 1875-04-21

sr,ysn Into Him by hls lawyers. and auo"oa
mort cour.uslvolr iiat torlt III A'Ssye sct .o
:outscouu gentleman, ana taas lie a''li III" AA''''
feelings tor llim. a t,tic.
Fullerton was o1cocdinGi" facns'oua anu l'a.-
h,ous ali Lilo afternoon sessien' llsa a'"s
s,atls invariably cauncd Foples OF nl'un'e.,
notvt,ls, .u1inR tho repeated admoht1'o"s =.
Neilsou. lila Lumnr VAN courageous aoa !"a'
before I'd dj,nrnmeps aaothcf bit u ale - smear"
mat, causcl realn Of laughter among '"ns"' la't'
euunsol, aud spectators. LII sac:' sa' eouAs A"'
3ouruad nutl y sho ser OF misth.
, 1875-04-21
SERMON ON CONFESSION.


WITH \ ruSsT PRELUDE.
J., $500 -, ~ ,'r,,l1s;ng ynnr sornon, ar bav;n,,
them rub!ishcJ7 A,-Yas, sls; In the hahat Of
s,a,a ,".'A r,,s.hsr .,,,t Ia ,,,. ., x,,r
Q.-e'ato wnesHer tnhs Is aVolnme OF your
published sermons (handin9 book to uituoss)7
t~yo, a-
Q.-Turn, II you please, and see wheshor you
delivered ecrmou uron tho "NobtIity of Con.
s...,e-u -, ,v.u t,n T.. ,..-. Iii II.
fefaion = A.-Nell, II II IL nero, otd, KIT.
Q.-Woll. Ia tt tlern A.-T'hcrp ie . 6ormpa
=, H.. t,,d-..Noh,j;,r ~ r,rtass,,, u : 1i5,,,t
Oh u'os @'a"~ Neo''tS VI eo'ao~s1oht 0oa
nntlea tho heading.
.,. rs,h"r .oa r.,,t" Il 'eo p"s'"ss " ~" "
sef mns.uGa A. ~ TMt,sstn,S NJ, ha,,,., ,,, h,,t
70 .s,5 M - @ M 11!se ra s ,na SS't
s"% w,,os,,-1 would h. ,s,,h.ppy to x,, you In M,
pGllaf. ,,,, T.. u, a.. u,t.,,u ~,,+
Fu!'ertnh--sheasmaa Will be al tas audience WALL
~ tuat AaS: ., lii ..
Ma!staest-VMnu soosl W." !Ss":t' - so~ "A44 Ness
xunna .r.ss 49,. ~. ,,t f,- vou afr
InsstonEM snaH sonfsst S?m Hn1 rnoaa .,r hars
iny nshus ~: u,.. t L. ro.,, ,n.r q, III, ~.
InAnaea 70 conn.a sS5fy ~ nev.v 1 -. n.a
thtre hecn taught an 70 l4'e o,ss1nunn haS IL ra.
sns1 tfon sencoa h,e VI 'n Ia III nj ,,aaa I ~
dormant tSug year nd ys.F. not nHn: s not
, 1875-04-21

OIL nndoratand you to ssy that you didn't
lonru OF Dessio Turner'S abaonce until tho lnttora
Of Mrs. h1oras woro tccolved by YOU In July,
1s7l7 AL believe stdta1 that. That Ia my
recollection.
Q.--Wns you not usdo acquainted with tho
fact that she lad boon seut amay7 A.~No, sir :;
I was not.
Q.--Until you received tho lottcr Of Mss.
Morse, did you suppose that elo wRs In AtEa.
T,lton's tamliy7 Al do net suppose TINT ]
thought anything about 1t, l bad no reaAon to
auppnsa but that she was.
Q.-1Iad you bcon informed by hor, or By any
osher pe1aop, that se knew Of this cargo which had
beet prulcrrcd aaa!nst you3 AL wAa nut.
Q.--11Al you m iaslnstion from, sny qnar.er that
sho had7 A.-Not shadow. -..
e,,ce to nes.,o Tarnsr7 Al have II In 1ny
QAnl VIA. amount did you advance a. that tla,s7
.Q.--Ilow did yo1 mats the ad'ance7 A.-Through
-Q.--Do you.keer e,eek.book7 AL do keep
Q.-Dll yen mike any enries In the margin. Al
donowi hut do not know whether Old
AZ EARLY AB THAT.
Q.-Havo you examined 70 Foa how ynn mado MP ths
saiusd Or ratlcr requeael ,aenber of n.y church
91R!d @ ne yen and , ..nh t, indicating the amount.
rate cannot stale to certainly on that. rseat.
81 him 20 Give us al tho rstuEn checks running buck
al a;n uos speakiug o. rotrr,.chects. an speak.
fng af tbs chrckbook. A.-As to tint. have mol ss
IN examination Who uauay lat charge oI ny dns-
Oil lnot.crs.
9-iI5avs not yoa seen cen tha s!,.sss NO. Sir.
nd oeIo's Of Tho ohsek7 Al don's know Is re-
o.-i. tAa ons of tha checks yop gave TO Mou,tons
A.-Yes, sir. - - 80
o.-Wha. occurred provicu. to tytus thut, chcct.
10 mo in s,lhstanes tilt ses.u.o,lls Of Dessje
Turuor, WIN was IN tho West, were dur aud
# would 10 embarrassing to 11l.on to havo 10 meat
se! great deal Of money, aud hs thought Il woul 10
DO Ii will Grea. rlsssuss. Tia. wa ts substance of
tho representation.
Q.-Wat did yon ask him At thst time why ho was
slaea ealng nessia Turner. Al did not, lit: w.
mseri X~Sa. sr taa i q no. R .ay i ha5l. N0''' NO
.,Q.-Ilad anything taken placa betxeea you mud
Muulton rror Ia tlat tfle subject OF advancing
Money7 Al nn1y reco!lect onn shIng, mud that
lf1os 70 that. l1e hah tEoknn sbou!
4 Moa7nAoE on TlIroa'a HOUSE,
istoa would 10 willing to .ettls tlo house. then rpon
his wife. told him whouassr anything Ut that kind
| he counted in,-1 Wanted 10 10 my shars
Q.-Is that a thAt occusEnsl between ynu and Moui-
.ou rraor e tls sublect OF tis chssk LII ls7ls AA
Q.-yaM wtro qulte willing 10 giss that cheok7 A.
@So tf:.s va maae II aG tbe tus7 Anot III.
saitest I was loaa !. kindly and viii II much ut
a,utirnsulitc~s ~ aver knew.
duly re*1lus uisan yaaf X.-Nuas Il al. IT, NY
An orrtcE or K1spsnss.
0-Aud iii wss tho ground upon on With von ain
IL; A.-rbst x.s tls ground. ' "''''' wv VIA
oM"9Ia;, a,s" s"a a'aa fes4'a mat ~ bsactm' then
Gle told you distinctly .hss II y. for, undsr-
, 1875-04-21
A-Nong, accept In rntro!y raid he hid gnt mother
time bill, nI,J would uxs tn gtss Lsn auue leca-
tiary A.l.
Odd yong!ve lin 4 rhcck7 AL presuMa TO-

:i@: S I'll ass II liz = !" x''' " Ia s'1s s'
o.-D;d yorslvs lin chcck7 AL presume 20,
o.-Ana tns CIRCUMSTANCES attending llls giving Of
tl,ls arcun etock DID ynt conhnle tue Eanh ID refer
eaee e tha r,s1 Al rrsA.nS sd, s.: nnI
st @. Il ,snl sss e" IT, y N. s IT. IL oIsi.
Q.-nuvs q liz notea h. wrote you7 AL sh!nk
Tiers !. onp in ovidcnc*. tshown paMrl
Q.pd nm nn,ls s:and a. tic ine Ta.s .he = monsy no
a' s,s el,'a,iaa sGs mel Il H. Il Il; .r"er f0's'
osuI. q's,t /" s Rsig r e., e. chstk of ny.
,ol IN lilo nhbtect Ut klv- 10 Ti.toh al pre-"
sams lheso lid. *sn't u at.
GAVE ni,t HONEY IN CURRENCY
qwunior what what circumstances did you give him
money III susrcnsy7 AGwo Hntlsr as ~ ,a.,e sa., CIR
o.--wh.t "a; !i,e i.,Rcat amount !oa ga,s a,m !.
e'irrrHey7 AL dont Fomatnbsf' df' eoa'a ae'
o. ttink yon sout,sned tl,s .u of SOP you zsve
iinn II ~ po,iavo auu. but ny Impression wsa II
Nv ti,cra any b!ll Of Bs.s!s Turner, or for
tscnss TuFer'A FeIonl!ng. which nninnnted 10 tl.t
sum7 A.-3o.nat.no. Il ran orers Tmo weta laclud'
oil in ono, solna:hs,g 70 that e1es.
schooling -whcsher fur u oss tesms-"lien lhey
amounted 10 $aN7 A.-So, t!r. never nlAde any
ra Ill., & ri q Moaan TO- WI. q T.
u oMws = ia IL ii, s instances ,.ttore tho money
tha. INIT sho % snns ~ he wsei wcrs fof ne.sie Turner.
s;hoaling7 AL don't a1J that ha did, slr. ahpnld
not 10 S.l Ina to ray tint 1s did.
Q-wa d. yo.l ren,o,nber Of Ills stas!n1 sny oshos
objss for which tno money waa wan:ed3 AS"t *tr.
4-cAn' you reo4l' airy instance OF nuytutha Ut The
Gnl7 A.-ao, mir.
Q.-EoT. Mr. Bsscher, In all tiss'h ius!"ne:s prior
, 1875-04-21

IN tns ID OF june, James NnsaIla came to mr.
oea,s' VI consequence OF IN arrangement with
Moalton mads on tho previous evening, Kin.
sslla came about o'clock. sad stayed u hour.
Ne talked about Tilton and lii ensirs. aud ths
card ~ prepared which was publishs1 tbat
altasuoon. ! thon wsnt to tho oh,j.ia,. Union
omes on AZ lark place, New York. i veut
xtom thass 70 the depot in TINA for tho train At
PseAsllll. ] Lett Brooklyn At hals.psst 10 aud
ssashA4 shs Office u H.. lam positive, sad vil
&ssaf ~ het u xsolaaa's hesis u - n 4
, 1875-04-21

ytcEsnrna. Afis8., Aprl 21-The GRIND Com
rpandcry Of knights Templar Of the ststs Of
atisslrsippl arc In Beasion hero. Ths Magnolia
Commandery. Of Viclaburg, gaso M ez-
curAion to the uraud Commandory on
the steamer Natchez. About $50 Knghts,
with their families, md large number OF
invisnd guests. were on board Tho Grand Lodge
Of knights OF pythlas IL also in eosafou. Tie
yarionH lodges tf the State arc we'll reDreaonted.
Tomorrow there will be pa.at.o Of Knights
Temrl4rs and also tho annual pnrade OF this
Fro Department Tho tlrnmsn ban1net du1tnz
tile day, and tho Knights hare grand bauQuas
at night.
, 1875-04-21

much done, Dir. after tbs sermon but ths bensdlo.
ton.
1nles feIlaon to the Iurors)-wiilt tho Iur, est
reals tu rei:o7
Witns -Thrra hns boen no collection tsken UP.
Tna Court adjourned.
, 1875-04-21
WAS IT BLACKMklL2

axAIEs or EXHAUSTIVE 4uksTtoHIAos.
c.-We.l, did you think that Theodore Tilson,
mp to The time you paid tho 5000, sAa isvylng
blAekmal upon you IN ny vsy7 Al saulAot
~ thai I thought 10. . .-..
Q.-i1sA 1sa any ssssae y &lnA 10 A ~
, 1875-04-21
"DOWN AND OUT"

ffncsa nn III ia7a in rhch Tia writor suuie Of
u..,.,., 1900
souE qurs1los1so on rus POINT.
TIN vv.+uoss a.ia tbia susptcion referred 70 tho
nan"os @ 'u1 iu which t men would r.gald biz moral
81, =. stta,,, .nd .honoh, NV liza nnnht In
clear mo. l thought should nave to meet
divided church, and that there ~as no better
,,,o.,,oa ~ t,,ovtto,,,r, ri. ro,+,,r t,,nn thc
Congregational Church, and TINT thoro would bc
.tronr Too}iuc ncatust tbe church. Tho noiut OF
s'ton6 'uo'p6 "6a."ss wv eA"e"' 80
tue snc1itico was that WAS Using tbls cllufeh 70
says myself. rnoant by stopping down and
out to resign my passorate. tlunght my
et,mo. then, was III winning sl!s womaa's as1oo-
s"u'' :. 1Au ~. ~ NV 49,"
no o.hor porsous With tho matter, for II would
become public. There uas no ono In nv conese-
CATION could trust In thiH condition of thIngs
" was e'tnof IN Nosoo'o"r OF oocenoes' A0'@'
vas callOd to haar
THE "Tnuk 6Tpny"
~,,i .s4., A.. w., ,l,.u ,,li;,,tf., - -,
sea.l' A,sos eas "oaao"" paa'oas'on' - W.
statcd, boforo II ~as read to nc, HAT II could
of Il Afsop Tiiton raj tho nas.sac .hoGht n
can ..,nd III. whoI. of II rnn stand t,,a,~ Ths
Sca.on I'D not deny /. whon Mis charge was rea "a
s,,r ~ .,,s,, tira c"rers ~ tinn w4th ~
Mention whsn ts is.tos Of .poIoav was thscaseue 10
"a nmi,has Tsi tn.s II t,t c.ri sotsaorci n liza
U1ooTiyn Eurx IL sre wond b. sn end q iii touoor-
i7inr II, H. r,stcr snd tat m exnans ston Hoi fol-
low. XIV 1ce;rnaIion fottsr Ind nQsss,i Out Of nv
i1.u,Is tirn 10 not romeuhsr kcriuq ii atter rctd
il H. IL hfhnitnn s,w Mr, Tn,i}tnn Al liar ns,r
hons. sous hi lima md wIs IN orsst fTatdaion ri
.tnS ns ."tSt ~ -, .U ~ % ng1,a ,Eg," -. 4. Mra
bsfors lhe puatc. 1 iii not uc dawn On . tora.
yEnY THIN.
n vna mt m urco1n,nnn tl,iuu for ma 10 Tia down
on sofa WhiIp watt!uu fUr hlvpop an,l would cover
my f.rt with nawxpanor Of xoHItthnR oltr 10 nre.
vent them tcconljur cold. MrH NoulCu saw this and
tlet her csso wa 10 oovsr no wtlh shawl Or so1ns
eoyeriu9 Nh biuuItnu eoYerpl mn with m afulsn
froque,,iiy-at ioast i zen ~. "'"N',''
do not rpeoliset hs4rino hcr NV th.t so M NJ ~. on
nv counsel the sskiua Of ths su1 nv nnrnssion "a
did sucues it. neyer sai,l 10 her iliat sl.o seo,o 10
nc I!ge lection Of tho day Of julyu,ept" snd viii
no9sr Used shst espreslou. a my psrt, .iiors ~ w.a
notnlos paa.ct hetwoen her md mo abo'lt confession
nshs 4 ~ as, o ~ ny ~ ~
Ireme,nhtr whrn VI. tessifying about As statement
, 1875-04-21

isrsriaI D*ratsh l1 The chf'aas TRIBUNE.
EAST sAatst.w. ,lich., April 2o.-Ths salt mnr-
kct Is lo,.;,,s up wonderfully. 8alcs have bcan
made a:a.e Saturday Of about 12,o0o barrels, Mt
from, 1l.20 to s1.96 per barrel. Jamcs Stewart
T. CO. have consrnetcd for and purchased 100, oeo
barrels within thu past two weeks Ircsctt
prices will bo maintained until Juno or July, rith
fair prospect Of All advance.
, 1875-04-21


b,sslmsii1 X.1MsmSess Of ths ommiG.s. NJ i "1 10
|, th!uk talk ID With th .m 10 tnneh - did viii
u.Nw+ lid VT "a viz nj 4 ners Il H. Cam.
lwycr. r. ,ots Al tl,tak liked With .oae
Q.-Thla raa 1efors ths evidence was taken befora
n oomnatses. ~as + not1 Alt WIS whilo The |
Q.--wtl yoa teii no slsat other members Of tho
A:-1 eanno, til 5ou ny noss 10 dstlacty.
yoMr estirns. be.urs Tho oomni.:eai Al talkcd
cx. . ni tae unfnit'te Wy We exception Of
ttst.aat' aha Will n-.uund white Wis making my
~, =, M.;;. NIL;
E-naiHs yqa *crs pTrparsaE7 A.-7es, sir.
A7b,tors Ieissere,, ,!,n T., ! 10 ,lc t;o.nmit.er.
VA hta tsalsr.
u-hny rs' oshss relation! tle A.-Ho oshcs.
4-Any nas'n1'S !. .ti',ionf . ,....-,
hons With him. NJ,
oIlnatEeesf p:a i'm tear any relations to him
wao were pHblfsbsrs ot Tue chv1Altaa tn,sn-. pub.
IslhE n*so lasly'i-kue r. manassr.
Q-iiow k,n3 neioro s1at haa yen arronted him ou
ha;tmMiy -! requested LIN 70 terso IN Tho Com
on lie ,,it 3fth 10 Of .% ,ans; - ,oa,,..
G.bti nc unue!a5e 70 EonEince !on II VIE biaek-
"an1 Gus ~ neses nAu - any nnes op,lnn
nail. idenY renensar tust ha s.er mad. ss.-'o
o. @ re- n W. wa tae eonasan1 tet'eaes of bus view
sno e'sr. ar, !,s.an. ss.t ,.,o, ..,..
70 m .hu Conml:ios7 A--Bsfors su-ls ny statement
~ niJ.',. 1Ae III t.; ~, t,...
.of:7 ~" "'' As ''a'n 'n' 'Ac's' Ain feeafo
mia A'-Ae n'a osAeF experiences beside
V'~hso ~ Ea!Aeu HstH from you 7 A.-He naa
tfon me- tas 9tea IN fosard 10 my fahlng Tho
o;u On, q, hi, c,rn,nt.. WIN v,r. .,t,n, n,
ju1ttHFnt u tits CasE waa slug, ttcfore you male
, 1875-04-21
TIE RI LyMOuTH COMMITTEE,
BONETtttS0 AEoET THAT IMPARTIAL. lAvEaT10A-

r. "0o - t'Sis"]l
so1fETtt1S0 AEoET THAT 1IpART1A1 lAvr8T1oA-
TIuX.
Q.-You llavo spoken VI yonr return from tho
White Mountains. When was that7 Ain
Octobor, 1871
@. Aud I: Eca M. nnt;l after that that your
a.yc,B sntxluud sola into tho hellef tas this waa
Lllosmail9 Mo, SIR, I think 1t waA after
that, when / Lecamo At all manageable OF that
sub} }ocs.
Q.-fonr s'a:cmont however, Tas before that,
was It not, in lhe mouth Of 1Ausust7 A.-My
statsmantf
Q.-ycH, before tho Co,unittae? A.-Yea slr,
Il was but yon know thAs during thts--
Q.-That viii do. Thai Ia MI auswcE. A.-Yca, sir,
thst In an answer.
Q.-Dia yon nos than. hetore you cane TO tbs
cu.on that thIb was blacknati In ocsoter ttais iu
Pul,stnnrc that YOU thought 1t wxa tlacAt4ai. A.
VIII yoa rtad i, lr son ra,aa7 --
Q.-Lo'k: n!sas anil e:e what yon s:li upon that
iosntosy ju12nsA Of yours. 10 tha lo9a rhrAs.7
A. fooxtua at ~ ha'k}-t presun1e this " ny sate
Q.-So., ID Understand You to s.y thai when you
Tra!o your stasntuea In hngt.t. you lG mt eoc to
the con lua!on That It We hMcknan that was levicd
upon you'll A.-aff s:stenluAt was mt written Rllo-
Ec.Aer Sir. II was wF!tten aud 9xteMIozizel. and
taken dawn by !ke ,,h'no: no:rarhaF. 49,.
mc;t. understand ynu q ar you hid not taale up
ycns iulnd that Il wa hl,cku.ai II that sos AL
don't recGltfst tlat hafs 81 las.
o.-rau toli VI" that yna ea',s to that conclusion
ou your rttnrn fu tie White Monntaius tu oc'obcr7
A.ofea +ts. l., o,...s
Q.-I nnT ~S saa "h4theF, ~ Ahgnst, Atcs ms hn-
uaii7 A.-Thst ~as cno OF tho leriods In which
Q.-ons Of tl.e rsr'oAa7 A.-Yes, sir. hAvs
statst 10 yos h It II Was n.ctuEtnG Ea.o Of mind.
Q,-l'sstsd!c4i' A--wel, no, not exactly. It Was
9. -p:lit wsz and wane With Tho moon ~ my WY
thought # vas un. than did ta1st It vas. -
Q..-When yoH htgsn to fuller tn your Judgment dbl
Gla lawy.rs tom, 10 the attack s;aln7 A:-Then
cs hsek md slk!ss !'A 'hsni felt myself strength"
p-wsse ere yoa @ se,tied II, hs eonr,c.ou that Iii, wa.
elst kn.ai Y A,'Au.i. is;t ~l-u your statement b.;
cams = wlttssn statement At t!.s time that
Q.-Wase you ss.ted IN yoar conviction A.-Sos
ectttcl.
Q.-Thsn,. were you willing 70 make stnfement to
ley1el blsetnsl without i.s bcug settled conviction
on your Hfud that II waa trle7
shsasmAa-Ihat ID aasu1ans that IL u 10 tbs s&ats.
FaIle1.on-1t Is in III. statement
, 'as II II mol In tie statement nor any
i.ul.tstoo-ws will rns IT in .no.h.r form. ..sn. O.
n.t.lod conviction that tls via hIarkua., ~tv you
Willing to aay what ynn d nay utn5t That subject IN
satenont, xail II urea tle surpcaon that that waa
my A1 I'd inJrSssto,l,
Q-and It became ulaxod nterwIrlst A.
p.-lIov soon sftcsward7 Al don't kuow. s.r-
Q.-Tsll ma stou. how roou aftsrward? AL csn-
mt say August Or snnettiuo IN tae nlonta
WY. .,,-. -
,,Q-And you Esye " this eontlngsot conclusion. 10,
tse e HaIi S s:;S rsS: anything a. thu. time to
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but II was nothing that tnads any ssr.oua i'm
pressfon. air.
o,-We;l, IL It didn't dit, then Int 10. us
b.vo it aoyttng MORO than fit, La. mo rnad !
aud 900 II you recolloct t!'!s: "Iho full
tr .tb Of this h!asor7 re- e.uires that QUO
o,e fact shall 10 told, espc tai1y NJ Thin. has insisl
II. Mouoy hus been obtained from me, !u TIE conro
Of thets ..ir,, I considerable san. b,,t did nut,
a. rs. lko tho 3ugg ptions that 'loult '1aae 70
H. A-<T1la di,l not c4l 10 me III u4l laid letl4ps
~. V.-pt. " III osus /. ~ Ali occurred In that
se"st Transient IlrIat.
,ua7 A:TaA Tilloa W.. roeeIs,,,s Iu,n"' /. On M,
Q-sow. Sir. leo :hsr e yaa pic n 1.d t"a:nr 10
H." .a Ira n son s III s4 bsea, bid sa .Su III na ts
truln yoa7 A.-SA you real sha:, If you lllo:ae. |
So u-f VIII. {,e.dns., "rie fn.1 truth Of thi, LID
clay =. itr, T.!ton In !ns!tei T. Mon.y hae Lscu
sia@ I'll sa1is tS s".' ~ ba III pol t.t "s ss @ .o
aHgs.stion lint shoald contribute H. Tltolt
Isf'" @t' T. T. '.4"!ns mo- u u 'jf*s ! TIT 1a,s
,s!a.p. Sssaa ' s:os,. saT ,s.s t,:s. ~ s sad
- yoa xl.ta.r y M nsSr r.I +, 's sa .t @ t:c y
tiny did not In ii ths earlier p.sjols II ny eontr-
u u,MSov. sst you whether It oec:-rcd 10 yon at
that tim ia 1tated htre9 Al an-hat wIsi. I.
alascd hers is snplJ not Tint 1t oceut1ed-~'s4t did
~ e.-Nos ri beg your pardon. You sre Eot I, g7s IN
s,sap o. ~ III, nr Rpnsiy or TnE
Q-N", you are not. ! want sn Anhwcr to lin; qtes.
soi, AID a1a go:ng 70 hsvs ID an."ss " .le1us:o,
The w.tnesr- Nay Il pleaae Your I1onor atm not
dstlnctsou between conviction n 1.rsnca of
tl.t kind making rornlal'ent consien1 aud uisreiy
G S' Ss tSauads y III pr IL I 1T u
Inns occurred to me. The Thought leg tn