New-York tribune., 1875-03-09
THE WITNESS HELPS THE COUNSEL.

No. Sir; he didn't and he didn't regret it In any way
shape.
q One moment; am not asking about his emotions A.
you want to find out just how he acted and felt don't you
lLaughterl
want you to tell just what he said Didn't you say hc
went 10 the wrong placer A. No, Sir.
v DIDN'T you say moment agof A. say don't know
whether he said so; don't know Of course.
q Do you know that he did not say that he went to
the wrong place, A. could not tell you certainly don't
think he told that Sir know that he didn't say anything
that looked like excuse
@ One moment A. legitimate excuse.
@ No. mol You can't get that in, now at all. A. Well that
is the fact any way
@ 1t fact You might well put up with first as last
You WI" answer my question: and you won't nerec anything
else Can say that he did not when he back that
he had made mistake and gone to the wrong place! lie
did not.
q Didn't you use A. can say that don't remember
q What did you the for moment ago when you said
that he went to the wrong place something Of that knd' A.
No, didn't say so said this
@ That Is an answer, A. Let tell you what he did say
@ That an answer' A. say don't know whether he
said he forgot went to the wrong place. what he said
That is what say.
Q Can you say that he did not say tina! he went to the
wrong pace' A. lie did not
g lie didn't say anything like that, A. No.
@ fhe ddntsay anything like that why did You use that
phrase A. Perhaps ought not to have used It, was trying
to think just what he did say.
q trying to state just what he did say you said something
esei didn't say so; said didn't know whether he SAID
and not. That Is not saying that he did sayi.
@ You don't remember what he said, then' A. No. Sir
do not. remember this
@ You recall anything can you that you did say
No, Sir.
q. On his returD' A. No, Sir.
Q. Very well. That is the way will leave IT, A. Well,
only don't try to make say what didn't say.
q. Mo- am only trying to make what is right n
What other instance do you ecoec where he refused to
do something he asked do' A. don't suppose can
give you chapter and Of any Of those things il that
what you want.
dsoblging spirit
O. Give instance II you OF this constant dis
obigng. A. Well when she would want him to take her to
places Of amusement.
O. One moment! Tell the instance where it was and
when it was' A. cannot tell you where it but know
there 18th her repeatedly.
q don't want repeatedly" want the instance. A.
Well then you can't get it, because can't give to you
[IAughtcrl
@ Very WE'LL think get because you haven't got
IT, A. know have brought her home quite late at midnight
from places where he would not bring her home.
O. Iaccs Of amusement! A. Lectures
q You with her then A. happened to find her and
bring her home and he was there
@ Didn't you 90 with herr A. don't remember
O. Can't you remember whether you went with her or not
A. remember going with her once.
O. He did not gof A. He did not 60
O. Did he 90 with you, A. No. Sir, he did not go with
O. Did you 90 with Mrs Toni A. only remember going
with Mrs. Tilton
O That am talking about On one occasion you went
with Mrs Tton, and Mr. Tlton did not go with you A.
don't know whether he sycnt or not
@ Didn't you tell moment ago that he refused TO SO 10
places and give that illustration! A. You
didn't let me tell what was going to about it.
@ No. no; time IL too precious for that Did yon not mo-
ment ago say he refused places Of amusement and
give nsancer A. going to that he refused
her home from places Of Amusement; neglected To- and
her get along the best wayI didn't mean amusomen
either; meant lectures public entertainments but was go
ing give you instances where myself found her and
brought her home Once. believe, went with her. but
don't remember about II.
O. Tell about that before you go to the other whero
was it you went? A. That to hear lecture.
@. Where = A.. l think to hear Wendell Phillips
but can't be certain about 1t.
O You went with Tton, A. went with her once on
occasion.
O. That one occasion talking about. Where was Mr..
Tton when you started. A. don't know where he was;
know he used 10 go with her hardly.
Q. Was he at home st that timc' A. ! don't know
@. II he at homc then why do you blame him for
going with herr Because he there and could have
been home.
O. II he was not home when you and Mrs Tion started
how do hold him responsible for not going with her' A.
Because he around home and could have been home
@ What do you by around home A. Near; and be-
he there the lecture and didn't 80 home with her
won't with somebody else.
@ am tuking about going to the lecturer A. lie always
knew when she going.
@ Did he know that you and Mrs Tton were going to the
lecture A. He knew that Mrs. 1fton was going.
O. Eow did he know 1t A. Because they had planned 1t
before
O. Was he home A. Iie had been home that day.
@ Planned tt A. She had planned 1t she always told him
where she was going.
@ Did she tell him thst day. A. Well, don't know. You
want to find out the spirit Of things.
@ Yes, know. Yca can't gay that you knew tna' sne
wanted to go the lecture your A know that .she
did.
@ Please stop right there and tell us how You know A.
That's just tell you certainly how kno" he DID
know she used to want TO go.
@ Used to want to 80 to that one Lecturer A. hwaya