Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1875-04-15
BEECHER UNDER FIRE.
Cross EX animation by Fullerton.

continued by Judge Fullerton of COUNSEL tor
= plaintiff.
/ Witness was asked ir he believed that Mrs
! TiltOn bad an undue affection for him, and
he replied, Il was in "A state Of perplexity.
and not o. belief huctu&ted between belief
/ and unbelef"
Fullerton read the letter dated midnight
December 80 from Mrs. TiltoI TO ner nus
/ band. in which she told HIM of Beecher get
! ting the letter of retractiOn.
/ Witness continued: Ny object in the mat
I Ter was 10 get peace, ana 10 get a better uu-
derstandiug and reconciliation gave mp the
| letter of retraction. We were I'D be recoa-
i Ciled through
THE KINDLY OFFICES or NoULTOS.
AYE "a up r the ret59stion because it would
! knew the charges were false, bat I did not
! know that TIlton knew this. ! gave up the
paper because / thought itwOuld end the diff
! hculty ana do away with the charges. |
/ knew MOultOn was - friend OF TIltons. auu
! he pledged his honor To keep the one paper
| with the other or destroy them. When de-
/ ferred TO the wishes of this woman la giving
! up my defence, do not know what thought
OF it, but L supposed that Moulton was TO
! stand between Us. | considered MOulton a
I man OF honor, and that the paper would he
/ as safe in his possession as in mine. He
! swOre those papers shOu Ia he kept together
! and SO trusted him. | chose 10 give the
| document To one OF the members of oae of the
| best firms in New Iork-a man Of honor,
! whose wife was member of my cnuTch-as
] a custodian of tnat paper. He the per
| son who presented himself ID me for fhat
/ document, and seemed a. fit To be its cuSto-
! dian as any person j knew. did not know
then what his knowledge Of the case was
nor did ask him what he knew about the
charges.
rIIE PISTOL INTERVIEW AGAIN.
! Mr. Fullerton read a portion OF the direct
I testimony In regard 10 this interview. IN
: which MUuton took of his uverc0at ani eX-
/ pos cd The pistol, which he took out and iatd
! on the bureau.
! The witness said this is the interview As
~ member il. saw the pistol whom he took
| ii out and laid II on the bureau, but before
hot 4 Rr,rs
! coat ON the bed AID talked with me possibly
! five minutes. did not think 1t eStrlorJi-
! nary that he should take OF MS uvercoat or
pun ont the pistol. He did not make auv
1 threat. did not think ne ;oor II out for in
/ timidatiOn, nor 10 think so now. ibid not
regard The presentation OF the pistol i'm any
! hostile lleut by his manner. When made
my published statement diI not mean 10
/ infer that he made any threats against me.
1 DO not remember then that intended that
/ such an lHicTCIccS ni Cht be drawn from VI.
! intended, III mentioning the pistol scene in
/ my statement. Ia present the spectacle as
! had seen it. This was on saturday night,
and there was some arrangement thar |
should see MOultOn the next day.
THE INTERVIEW NEXT DAY.
The interview took place N three in The af-
! tcrnoOn Of Sunday, !st OF January, in the
: third story back room. After the usual cour-
/ tesies, NOultOs said the wisdom of his sug-
/ gestions of the night before had been shown
by the manner in which Tllton received th.
! letter Of retractiOn. The conversation turaet
/ On TlltOn's position and the way he was suf-
/ ferirg all arOund-Of his relag ions TO MIR.
/ Bowen and also ofmy relations 10 Mr. Bowen
1 told him of my con verSatiOn W it'll Bowen on
! the Goth instant. He then said that Bowen
had been a traitor 10 both sides, and said that
neither in regard TO intemperance or unchaS-
! tiiy was Tilton guilty, and that he (MOultOn)
/ had known him from bOyhood. He said Til
! ton was now without occupation or Subsis.-
! ence, and then went into the troubles of his
| family | regretted having believed these
| stories told me by Mr.. Bowen and Bessie
Turner, anu told him had been prepared for
1 these statements by what Bessie Turner told
me. told him OF Bessie farmers stories TO
| me, and let my feelings out TO him. 1 hal
| lent my car to Mr.. Bowen's stories. and said
| To him that Tilt0n was tainted man. AMI II
would not hr wise tn keep him on the indie
| pendent. My advice 70 Bowen with regard
/ 10 the employment Of Til ton on the Brooklyn
| told me Mr.. Moulton convinced me in 81
| iar as the reasons were moral that TiltOn was
| q Il / and proper man To be on the Independent
and Brooklyn Union. / Thought Bessie Tar-
| ner had told me an untrue story. and was
| satisfied that she had been niSta ken. Tina.
| there was some foundation for il Moulton did
| not deny. lie said there was something of
! that kind, but that
MRS. MORSE HAD LED BESSIE
| TO think worse OF il than if she had been left
| 10 her own inclination. As regarded Mr.
| Tilton abusing his wife, he (MoultOn) said
! some thing about Titoll'S genius. and thar
| there never was kinder hearted man in the
world; that If his wife would take The rigi,
way of him she could lea him with a thread
| did not enter into a comparison between
what MoultOn told me and what Mrs. Morse
and Mrs. Tilton said to me. but / certainly
! took his word at that time against all corners
| denied the charges of improper proposals To
| Mr.. Moulton that day. The general CONVEX
SatiOn took That drift, and brought out the
| denial The charge was imprOprietieS To-
| ward Mrs. TiltOn, but what term | cannot
| say. There was something put in writing
! near The end OF this conversation. | made
ree~"ts and he said if TiltOn could hear this
ali misc,n iaf would be brought to an end He
said why don't YOU put something in writing
and show TiltOn y;'lr disposition. | said
why don't you make me.uoranda OF them.
he took pen and sat down ana made mem
oranda. was walking to and tro. and he
would ask me questions. DO you say 50
and So and would reply. did not say IN
the commencement that gave il To him in
confidence or trust. He could not follow my
dlctation, as am hard man to follow, l
was anxious that my feelings should be cor
Quoted properly TO TiltOn, and relied perfect
~ on MOulton to make fair statement |
was not aware that he clothed these memo
randa in the form of letter. did moi saw
asked Theodore Tilton'S forgiveness and
humbled myself before him as did before
my God. What said was that
WHEN SAW WAS WRONG
lulnpled myself before God, aud was will
ing to do so before Theodore Tilton. In open
ing the conversation i thought hal done
wrong To Tilton. AT one period of the day on
the LIST Of January mad male up my mind
that TiltOn had reason 10 make these charges
against me on account OF what ne had heard
from his wife. | thought he had come To the
his household in the matter OF improper pro-
pOsals. | thought ii had been procured from
her when she was weak and sick. and she
had told a falsehoOd to Mr.. Tilton. sup
posed he had reason To think had been a
wrOnger Of his family. When this letter was
written said nothing TO Moulton eXculpat-
ing myself of these charges. Before | wrote
it denied the charges. / never dictated
point or a word exculpating myself of these
charges in this document written by MOul-
ton. / denied to him that 1 ever wronged
TiltOn. / expressed myself to him as the
peacemaker between TiltOn and myself, so
that he might go and tell him. 1 expressed
myself regretfully to him that Tilton charged
Inc wrongfully. j did not send any message
TO TiltOn whatever in regard to the charge of
improper solicitations. / did not say he
would have been better man in my place
| than have been, but said something that
| would sound like this. / did not say the
| sentence that mentions "all tile hearts that
would ACHE" though 1 may have said some
thing akin. did not say
''I EVEN WISHED I WERE DEAD"
| but spoke of others living and suffering. L
| did not say anything that would sound like
| 'she is guiltless, sinned against, and bear
| ing the tranSgressiOns of another" or that
| her forgiv eness had. When this paper was
| finished / did not read it, nor was IL read to
| mo- did not care about il: there were notes