New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-07

it that she referred to A. Trouble In the any vi
daughter and her troubles came up also, In reia
| ton TO support, and what not
@. Was it a question Of pecuniary-were they matters
of pecuniary consideration that she referring to A.
| II was only In part that, Sir
O. Well that gave origin the phrase used by you to
her concerning which she writes to youi
| Mr. Fullerton-I object to that
| Judge Nelson so far as you knowf
| The witness-So far as know.
| Mr. Evarts-Well, the letter speaks Of his having
| SAYS :" Do you know think it is strange that you
| should ask me to call you soni"
| Mr. FullertOn-Yes
| Mr. Morris-Yes that is quite different thing.
| Judge Neilson-The witness now accounts for it.
Mr. Evarts-That is oil Of that letter. ITO the wit
ness1 Did you at any time ever ask her to call you
son any other way than you have now statcd-to
counsel with you'll A. No. Cir.
THE TROUBLE CAUSED BY THE Woodruff
| CARD.
O. Mr.. Beecher do you remember in May,
1871 or thereabout anything arising in reference to
card of Mrs woodruff had appeared in some OF the
| New-York papersi A. do.
O. How was that brought to your notice. and by whomf
| A. I don't know. Sir; saw it in the paper.
O. You saw it yourself in the paper A. Zee, Sir
/ O. About the time that it appearedl A Within day
| or two
O. Now when did it come to be matter of conference
between you and Mr. MoultOn, you and Mr.. Tlton :
A. | think-wel within a few days-within day or two
I have an impression the day following but cannot
say quite certainly.
O. Now what occurred between you and Mr. Tilton or
Mr. Moulton, both of them consequent upon the ap-
pearance this card, A. The only thing recolleet was
An interview with Mr.. TitOn dag two afterward In
which he gave me an Of his visit to Mrs. Wood
| hull.
| @. Well, state how he described that interview. A.
Well he said that he saw that card he was
satisfied that it had reference TO him and his household
and he determined that he would right down himself
personally and II possible put stop that matter that
it portended he said that he prepared himself that he
might her at his best he gave me an account there
FORE of how got himself up, and went down ana met
Mrs woodruff, and asked If 1t Mrs Woodruff; she
said he told her who he was, and he proceeded TO
say that had card in the morning papers, ana
wished to ask whether that card referred to him and
| his family and that she said it did; and then
| he said he in his life brought 10
| bear on any human being such an amount
| of personal influence as he did upon her; he was
determined that he would carry her with him by lis
influence and that after considerable conversation
he succeeded and when he left it with the under
standing that all proceedings in the direction that were
offensive him of that kind should be adjourned or ter
minate-I don't know exactly which. That the sub
stance OF the statement that he made TO Inc.
O. Did he mention any argument or inducement In re-
gard his position in reference to her views that he
had used with herl A. He did; he told that he
preached her attempting to make on him, mas
much as he like her, sufferer from proclaning sub
stantay the ideas OF social philosophy and OF d.
vorce as she did. didn't understand him to say the
same full theories OF social reorganization but the same
substantial theories the liberty Of the individual and
| Of divorce.
O. Did Mr. Tilton give you any other account OF
any interview visit Mrs Woodruff on this score, ON
this subject that that you have now given A. You
| mean relating TO that cardi
O. Relating card, to interview that he had
had with Mrs. Woodruff in reference to that cardi A.
| don't recall any other.
O. Did he tell you at any time that when he visited
Mrs woodruff the subject of the card that she turned
to him after had read the paper and asked him; DO
you know, Sir, to whom refer in that card y said
to him that replied in cavalier way How can Tell
to whom you refer in blind card Ike this T. told him
that she had then sad refer, Sir to the Rev. Henry
Ward Beecher and your wife," Did he give you nara
| tive OF that kind A. No. Sir.
@. Nor resembling it A. No, Sir
O. Did he say to you that when she said that to him
that this announcement filled him Tonl with astonsh
ment and that Mrs. Woodruff instantly said to me 1
read Sir by the expression your face that charge
is true" A. He said anything of that kind to me-
q. Did he then say to you this, or its equivalent;
told him that could not remember in what words had
and endeavored to throw of her accusaton that she
instantly followeft up with recital in vehement terms
in excited manner, OF dozen or twenty particulars
extravagant and violent all OF which, portion OF It,
afterward gathered together in the card Of Nove
Der the ID 1872" A. No. Sir he went into such de-
| tails with Inc at all
Mr. Evarts-Mr Tton says that the last statement, OF
course that she aterward gathered together in card
| Of November the ID, 1872" not statement that
was then made, but description Of what she had
told him. will qualify my question. ITO the wtnessI
Now did Mr. Tlton this occasion give this nara
tive having been told him by Mrs. Woodruff: The
substance OF the story which she told me that there
aafin af hafu Mr. ahaP
and Mrs. Tilton."
| Mr. Morris-Ohjected to-
| Mr. Eyarts-Whyt
Mr. Morris-That Is what Mr. TiltOn testified to-con-
versatons that he had with Mrs Woodruff He didn't
testify repeated that to Mr. Beecher. All that line Of
questions You have been putting il improper.
Mr. Evarts-The previous one is not open TO that OBJ
lection.
Mr. Morris-Cerainly; the same objection applies to
them all.
Mr. Evarts-I will read 1t to you: al told him that l
had read 1t with shudder and that soon rs had
finished the reading Of 1t and Laid down the paper she
turned upon and asked DO you know, Sir to whom
/ refer In this card" every word said to have been
stated by Mr.. Tilton Mr.. Beecher Now, will call
your attention to this. suppose this all stated to
Mr. Beecher 1t came In under the motion that 1t was
what was said to Mr. Beecher "I told Mr. Beecher that
had left Mrs woodhull's Ia go to Mr.. Moulton-"
Judge Seilson-It is the intention ~ take any evil
dence of conversations between Mr.. TitOn and Mrs.
Woodruff.
| Mr. Evurts--No that Is very plain.
Judge Ncils0n-That Is al independent Conversation.
How any part of II got the minutes don't know.
Mr. Eyarts-I am atitled TO ask whether he did say 1t
~ him.
| Ju,Ire Neilson-n have got IL there.