The New York herald., 1875-11-23

Brothers; Mr. Adam ". Spies, Henry Pelens,
George ". Able, Erastus Benedict ana other gentle.
men took part Ia the debate, which was long aud
stormy Mr. Mnturn stated, aiter the meeting, that
there should be immediate reform IN the association,
or not, the public would refuse 70 aid lle poor
through It's agency any longer owing 70 growing
mistrusl and that il was the receipts had fallen 40
a very small ngure thus year On leaving The meeting
Mr.. Minturn was asked py HERALD reporter II u
were true that the OF S20OOO had been misappro
pratcd by Mr.. Robert NJ. Hartley, the secretary and
agent Oi the association He answered that II not
true. Mr. Hartley who Is aged and venerable
looking gentleman, next visited in the Office after
the meeting was closed when he was asked the same
question, and he stated N most eXclted manner that
"a viilancns lie and had been gotten up to de-
stroy a noble work which the speaker had been con-
nected with for thirty years and that Mr. r b Min
turn was the prime mover in creating all the scandal
assisted by Samuel smith, John Pullman and Michael
Hahn. smith created trouble because his grocer did
mol ger custom from the association ana iuliIan ~
be wished 70 subserye base political ends, ana
that there no trouble only IN the Seventeenth and
TWenty-ugst ward committees Mr. Hartley adaed
that not dollar of the money OF the association
which he had Ounded-had ever been mlsappfoprlated
II stated that Mr. James Brown oi the arm 81 Brown
Brothers, resigned, owing 70 dissatisfaction Win the
management oi Mr. Hartley, and that other membets
have also lett, who are vel known II S sog.sy
aud mercantile lie, for the same cause Colonel
Frederick A Conkling, who was CHAIRMAN
of the Fifteenth Ward Committee, resigned iast spring
because Of Mr. Hartley's course, ana yesterday ia
statement to HERALD reporter aecareu a1 ~ sa
no confidence IN the course pursued by MT hartieyl
the latter totally irresponsible 70 the assoca.
ton, and he believed that there was more raseay sha
dishonesty the charitable institutions 81 TINS CITY
than was ever dreamed or lie considered thht sIet
Investigation should bo made For himself he did not
wish 10 belong to the association any longer, although
1t had done noble work. for he found that Mr. Hartley
considered that the entire control o. us lunds and
management belonged him and that he did not like
10 nave any questions asked
The association present state Of alarm as 70
what developments may transpre, and there promise
Oi immediate investigation. Mr. Hartley Is over sixty
years Or age and, In addition 70 being Secretary and
AGENT of the Association for tile Improvements Of the
Condition the Poor Is also Corresponding Secretary
81 the Hospital for the Ruptured and Crippled, and IS
connected IN official capacity With the Presbyterian
Hospital both positions having salaries attached 70
them. Mr. Hartley has handsome carriage and pair
of horses ID which he Is driven 70 the Bible House
daily There Is collector for every ward
IN the city attached To the association, each Of
whom receives ten per cent profit On all collections
made for the benefit of the poor Some ladies pay
high 600 year by checks 10 the association It Is
sand great has been the confidence IN IT'S manage
mont ana lady IN Fifth avenue who was accus-
toned 70 giving 81 900 year to the fund.- and whose
uncle has lately resigned from the charmanship oi
a ward committee has declined by his advice 70 sub
scribe any money. The association has been con-
stanty receipt Of egaces for tho last thirty years,
the latest amounting to $50 600, being the interest
property Fourth avenue, just above the Ciaren-
don House Tins was devised BY the late Mr. Hohrook