New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-15

given up and read your direct crossexamination with
! view TO asking you further upon the subject
| lReadingl
After some little further pariey went to the drawer
where the letter was. brought u OUT au xncoat on
about this on PERHAPS az ss onS 20 Jaw the
eSH off bis his nccfe Ih hs out
on the bureau, without words az remember anu p"'
| his Overcoat on the foot OF the bed
Ia that correct representation Of that part OF the IN
terviewt A. will not affirm 1t to be absolutely; that Is
nv present recollection, although not positive one.
O. It is AZ you rccOllect 1t nowf A. As now reca'i
| the scene that is about the order Of It,
O. Did YOU see the pistol YOURSELF A. saw the nit
OF II rst and then afterward he drew 1t out ana iad "
upon the bureau. -
q. You still do not answer the question, MI boco"o''
| A. did not understand II, then.
| O. Did you SEQ the pstOlf A. I saw the pistol.
O. Did you see the whole Of i A. When he laid 1t on
the bureau saw the whole OF II.
| O. He was In q profuse perspraton, was he notf A.
could not say that he seemed to be very warm. ana
| saw perspirati0n upon his brow, but cannot ~"
| whether II was prOfuse or sparse.
O. Did you think he removed his overcOat on account
OF his condition as to heati A. don't know whether
| did or not.
O. Well, what do you think nowi A. Well presume
| he did.
| It on the bed.
| O. Then he sat down and talked with you some con-
| siderable time did he mott A. No. Sir.
| O. Well, how long did he talkf A. He stood up ana
continued talking; don't know, 1t might have been nve
minutes possibly ten not, should think, more than
| than that.
O. Did YOU think IT extraordinary noticeable at ALL
that he took his oyercoat off, under thecrcustances A.
did not think extraordinary noticeable in the or
binary sense Of that term; noticed it or should not
have remembered 1t.
O. Well did YOU think 1t at all extraordinary that he
should remove pistol from his pocket before taking the
overcoat OFF, A. No, Sir cannot say that did
O. He did not say word about the pistol when he TOOK
| II QUIT A. No, Sir.
| O. He made no threati A. No threat.
| O. Nor did he make any gesture which indicated that
he was going to use 1t in hostile manneri A. No. Sir
O. Nor did you think that he used it for the purpose OF
intimidation coerconi A. No. Sir, did not think So
| Q. Did not think so A. No. Sir
@. You did not think at the time, and you DO not
think 30 now, do yOui A. do not think now that L
| thought so at the time.
O. Well you do not think now that you think so now,
| do yOui A. Excuse me.
O. What do you think about it nowi A. That he meant
| to ntmidate mel
| O. Yes Sir. A. presumed think he did not.
| O. You did not regard. then, the presentation OF a
pistol to your view any hostile light upon his part !
| A. No, Sir
| O. You recoect heretofore Of making statement in
regard to that part OF the interview suppose, Mr.
n. L
| Committee
O. See il this recalls to your recollection what that
statement Reading
He made no verbal threats but he opened his overcoat
terward he took out and laid on the bureau near which
| he stood. gave the paper to him. ana after iew
moments talk lie left
Do you recollect making that statements A. I don't
| recolect making it, presume did
| O. Well when you did make it, didn't you intend to
have it inferred that pistol used for pur-
| poses OF intimidation A. intended to express In
that paper precisely what at that time-what remeIn-
brance had at that time Of that scene and that part
| Off
| o. That Is answer to my question: Mr.. Beecher /
am speaking of IL question of interest Didn't you
intend when making the statement which have just
read to yo have 1t inferred at least that that pistol
was taken by Mr. Moulton for the purpose OF III
uencing your with reference to the reraction
A. do not recall that did.
| O. Do you remember OF making this statement, re-
ferring scene, preceding what have just read,
namely
| He was under great excitement He made no verbal
threats but ne opened his overcoat and with some en-
took out and laid on the bureau near whch lie STOOD
A. do not remember making it; presume, II it is
printed there part of statement, that is sub
stantiay rs made it,
O. And understand you to say that you did not make
it, them with view Of having the inference drawn that
the pistol hadanythng to do with the return of the paper
| A. So far as can recollect, / did not
| O. You did not intend ut that time, or suppose. that
such an inference would be drawni A. don't remen-
| Der that did.
O. Why did you deem 1t necessary, then to introduce
that pistol into the narratvei A. In order that
might give as near ~ could the picture that rose to
| my memory
O. understand you to say that the pistol was not
exhibited at ALL the butt of it, until after you had
agreed give up the paperhad got it from your private
drawer or desk whatever it and was returning to
hand it to hint A. That is my impression now although
am not as stated before positive that have got the
order just right
O. This was on Saturday night, IL recollect right Mr..
Beecheri A. Saturday night
O. Was there any arrangement that you should see Mr.
Moulton the following dayl A. think there was, Sir
| @. Who suggested It'll A. don't know.
O. Well, what object had you in meeting him the ext
daya A. say don't recollect. only know that the
next day was in state Of expectancy, that reason
that there must have been the arrangement the night
before but do remember any arrangement making
| the night before.
O. Well you would not expect him unless the arrange
ment had been madel A. No, that ia the reason say
| that think arrangement had been.
| O. And you don't know what object was to be accom-
plished by the meeting the dayi A. do not recall
O. You don't recall what to be said or what was to
| be dOnei A. No. Sir.
| O. or what was to be discussed A. No programme
was laid out aud plan suggested that recall at all
O. Well, the hour fixed for the meeting the next
dayi A. recoec expecting him In the afternoon that
| il the nearest that can come TO IT,
| O. Well don't you think, then that hour had been
appointed In the sfternooni A. presume that there
had been period perhaps not particular hour, but to
| be after dinner and afternoon.
| O. Well, il was Sunday was il notf A. Ii was on
| Sunday.
O. But il was not connected with any religious exercise
| ha. thera3 A a il