New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-06-12

well, the old man knows his own case ~ he cannot
stand be must down, and cannot afford TO 90 down
sIrprsed n / heard him Alright when he
was testify lug q in ecmt at the timel he swore
summer he 'cieveland did not know his eceher's)
case Nov, m March previous. on te satur,'ay pre-,
10 DR. storrs In my presence IN ne most eihpn, ,
facts Of his with Mr.. Tilton and that he could ox
plain every thing consistently with his tb"echef D Id
temsn whom eould name that in ease of public col
bson between Mr. fiton AMI M .echer ana the egnse
Iuent exposure, that other ladies' beside Mrs Tilion
who had not been named woald 'e involved MI Cieve
land named four ladies beside Mrs Tilton, two OF
whom are members OF Plymouth Church.
Rim Nr. Beeoher's crosse ka,nirltion Judge Fuller
too asted nn he lad conversation ~th yo1 on ie
evening Of June l, 1873. What about thisf
hr.t-Iiat was the evening before the famous " AZ
glan int ,rsew ol Juae ,.Ao abb not hay ins been
accompanied bv my wife and lady friend After the
at tho head OF the central aisle. IN frnt OF
the poipli platform talking With ls brother fn@ah
pew. We sat down together. He said: "rieo-
d0re - greatly eAeitsd by the publication OF tIe
upon. lie has been up 10 Curtis's Anna Dick
inson II there. They have lntaried him, and he's
PRESTON was my letter Of hum ation." said sup
| pose he does Mr.. Beecner replied: You kno% wh.t
| bet With great sadness Mr.. BeecheT replied
Ny destruction and Theodore ZOO He can never
| r1rc NY ruins" he then SAID he was goinS down
| To Mouons, and asked me 10 walk there wi'h him.
1 ! put my wife and friend In charge ~ a gentleman
from New-iork, who was present. and accom-. .nied
Mr. Beechcr. As We LETT the church. with 4 spark OF
cheerfulness, Mr. Beecher said. Wen, Bowen IL dead
cock in The pit, snt he ~ lie then went on 70 say that
II Theodore made the threatened publication Bowen
public, and bowen would Do vindicate,-" be the top
OF tia wave again. an expression OF which that IL an
equivalent
\ DISTRESSING IyTERvrEw-MRs. uLrON's "UN-
PARDONABLE SIM
R-Mr. Carpenter, il not asserted last Summer that
Mrs Tlton went to youand to Dr. stors and denied her
written charge OF improper advances.
| Mr.. C.-Yes. few days after the death Of Charles
| Sumner I went to Brooklyn one evening to see Mr..
Tilton's editorial Sumner. He was not at home,
and Mrs. TiltOn received me- year and quarter
had passed since she had put into her husband. hand
| in my presence her written charge against Mr.
Beechcr, 10 be shown To DR. s'orrs | had seen her
never even limited that il as not true ON this occasion
she came into the room, and sitting down by my side,
her life. In reply TO my inquiry she said that ner friend
Mrs OvingOn had told her that Lady Of Brookyn-One
70 Mrs. Oyington that Mrs Tilton was not lit
person for her to receive INTO her house.; Here
comfort her Al length said, Mrs rilton, cannot
wife, that you believed Mr.. Bcecher to be good man.
with that written statement that you made III my pres
ence" 7 said. =" have right 10 question yon but
should be glad if could reconcile the two things Here
she broke down igaiR and said she had secret Which
do not ask you to tell me" Then she said, Oh Mr.
Carpenter, have committed the uniarlonabe SIN There
ia no hope, NO mercy for me- said, There s mercy
She then said, Mr.. Carpenter that written statement
that made to you and to NJ Storrs was deliberate
he" looked upon her WIN lneXpressible surprise
my recollection the repeated assertions Of Cleve
land thdt hs. Ihton va tLe sctlih Oh h.ildeiiall2h
. MIS-. Iilton, If this terrible thing ia the re-
suit ~ hlllucinat0n tell me so. for one
sai NO Mr. Carpenter It wasn't hallucinaton; IT
lie" she asked rom me no pledge Of secrecy and
Dr. sLurrs aud tOld him what she had just told me.
went to Mention and told him what bad heard. lie
expressed SURPRISE but would give NJ satisfaction
told MoIlion would be- no party TO ANY urtAer cover
ing III. conccalnenJ WRONG, let the wronglsi man be-
! house and got him out OF bed | told Cleveland
what had occurred stated Ia him, a. di to Monlton.
WRONG, and that had never sought to pry MO tiie
secrets otlers-I had never ASKED Iiiton Mrs ltton
that the adultery Cleveland sat up IN bed
n u i @ ntr kpootvu dsferained To- have
nothing uoge 10 do with tia mat Ter.
lew IL! Later was sent Tor anl Mrs Tilton old me
that all she meant to say words Of her
statement H.. storslt Mr.. Beecher had never adj
dr I'd 10 her any such words "a size wrote down that
W., Az ,he meant deny; shs didn't mean % deny the
/ facts concealed by words. Aftcrward learned
! from DR.. siorrs that the eorrespondence DC,
! twc'n himself, Burlington and beecher ceased
on certain DAY Ia January 81, III , re tb, :"
three H. Brooklyn knew there would be council
himself. Burlington Deechcr-and that tie very next
morning, DcfoFo tne fact That tie eoresp"idehee nal
been iTiitlcs- Fad been communicated 10 Toe COMMITTEE
the very next morning MIS- 1Iitun came 10 him with
her ssicInent or denial Dr. storfs Sti" th"t lo
/ more thdn a year Mrs. TiltOn Rad been Wi,hln SIX
eight minutes Walk OI his -.iiy tial NJ "''" n'
her twee socially during the a., ana TIL sue nA'i
never Gwen lm by sign, until Congregational
Council Dccan certainly an utilization c Lac sict ''e
her statement not true, and lac could not uisaJc
In. fact Of the council and her denial am c"iiiellcu
70 ,y before Diminishing subject that Mrs IliOA Told
me that Miss ,jts-ia Turner's statements made 10 Mrs.
IuinaIn land d snsiIcAy brought Out since Oh m
tTII were II tissue oi i1iaei"ois ii"'N - Ai' " Gnu
MR. BowEN's KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS.
R.-C4n you e. plain, NJ. Carpenter, Ar Bowens re-
lalions 10 tie scandal
Mr. C-That NJ. bowen had secret revelation l1yoly-
ing Mr. Be- chers moral character made - nm years
,e, have mad from his own lips. That Mr. Beecher
had made essUn 10 him, .,O had IRON DR. bow m
That he las always refused To tax upun the sencct anu
To deny the statements attributed 10 hn y MI lah
L. "A very significant and weilahOWn iaft ilAs'e .ue
facts are H. b. Clalin, Mr. Becchefs committeeman,
bno them and this Ii UnquestlonaOiy the reason M
p.ting Committee once SAID "a Mr.. Bowen thul tHhm
IOd me that he 81 knew the bottOnl FACTS Vi BOWEN
case" NJ. Bowen lid not deny this TACT
R.-Did Dir. Bowen ever tel yoa 10" ne came 10 sign
the Tripartite Covenant - -, a..
! Mr.. Gle did. Mr. Bowen told me thar H. r. Cianin
broughs him WilkehOns original dftlt u tht eoNtn
ant and wanted him SIGN it. He told claim he c"ull
not sign It, Cailin urged II, ana nIHy "I' ic
busn.ys career Mr. C1dnin had loaned aim FlV'Voo,
which he his always fciJ uded hiin over BANKRUPTCY
The appeal Claln, tAefeioTe, "a- lrreslstne air
after altering Nikcsons dfat III lInu.ldL Isl",.'
it should the hight But hs added III trlbs
me this ought not Ia have signed IT, nothing uu.
Cafins personal appeal could have induced me 10 % H.
| TiltDu ana myself Wh'n LION
read his last june observe mat bowen
Withdrew his statement concerning Beecher ne dli NOT
SAY they were not true DR.. Bacon ana tHosihus oi
ofhers and noted this when tine lrlar" Coz eaiI
was published BY Mr. ieecher and his friends, out Of
1 Wt. cll Al ne