New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-01
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O. Very well had that impression that you did. am
requested TO ask you Sir whether you have not ocited
or spoken to prominent editor Of leading journal, In
this city New York for the purpose OF procuring m
friendly notice advocacy OF Mr. Beecher In relation 10
this scandal A. recall no such thing, Sir
O. Well IL your recollection definite that yon would
willing that you have mott A. am willing
to swear that never had interview with any editor
for that purpose
O. Oh, well; please my question. A. cannot
@ Very well, then, say 40. A. n you viii repcs.
again will see how definitely can answer H.
@ Why asked you whether your recollection was 70
definite upon the subject that you would swear post
lively that you had not made such application TO
leading editor, A. To leading editor-for what pur-
pOsei
O. Why for the purpose Of enisng II In favor Of Mr.
Beecher In relation scandal No, Cir no, Cir,
think not; have had conversations with editors on
the subject oSthe scandal.
O. And did you not Sir labor 10 induce or attempt 70
induce one or OF the editors with whom you con-
versed TO write favorably publish fayorably In their
papers for Mr. Beecheri A. No. Sir; think did with
one editor the subject Of the course OF his paper
@ wait-yes. A. lcontnuingI-But did not Try 10 m
nuence him.
O. Who was itf A. Who was the man
@ Yes. A. That refer TOT
O. Yes, Sir. A. | refer 10 John Russell Young.
O. Looking at a newspaper Did Mr. MoultOn At any
time accompanied by Mr. Tton, other than occasions
of which have spoken. come TO you and In an inter-
view which followed the story Of this affair told 70
you, and, after that communication, did you express
views to Moulton what he ought TO do TO which
MI TltOn objected, and in which Mr.. Mouon finally do
cined to upon your Judgment A Read that again
will you, Mr.. Beach,
Mr. Blackwell, rather think VIII depute somebody
TO read it. don't think could myself
(Question read by The Tribune stenographer
A. No Sir; I remember interview after the Sunday
| lion. ma
together the subject of this story was gone over
O. Well at that interview did You express 20 M honi
ton you thought he ought to dot A sad on my
direct examination Mr.
O. Oh don't care what you said your direct exam
nation A. Well said either the close OF that inter-
view-and think il that Interviewer az sub~e-
quent interview between myself and MI Mouiton, !
did
@ Well, did Mr.. TtOn object to what you snggestedf
A. Mr. Tilton objected the TO what suggested
present when suggested about the destruction
OF the papers; that he objected TO.
q. Well, that the suggestion which yOn madef A.
That the suggestions made 10 what ought 70
| be done; yes Sir.
@ Well. then you suggested that the papers ought TO
| be destroyed A. did.
O. And Mr. Tlton objected TO that A. Mr.. T1tOn OBJ
| ected to that
GEN. TRACY EXPLAINS SOME OF HIS WORDS.
Q. A single other question, Sir. You stated
upon your direct examination, can repeat in sub
stance that you said at OF those interviews 10 Mr.
Tton publication OF the paper which he read to
you would him and ruin his wife and ruin Mr..
Beecher-if recOlect right A. made some remark VI
that substance yes Sir.
O. Mr. Tracy If at that time you understood the charge
against Mr. Beecher be impure solicitations addressed
70 Mrs Tton. which had been vrtuOusly repeled by her.
and which Immediately afterward communicated to
her husband how did you suppose that the disclosure OF
that circumstance would ruin Mrs. Tiltoni A. sup
posed in this way, and in this manners As understood
IT, Mrs TItOn had made an accusation against Mr..
Beecher husband that after that she had etracted
that accusation Mr.. Beecher understood from the
documents then presented 20 and the tk that sne
had renewed accusation always assumed that "
the publication made 1t was TO be made on the re
newed authority OF Mrs. TltOn; supposed that would
bring collision between Mr. Beecher one side, sup
ported by her retractOn and his denial and MI TIon
and the other supported by her first accu
saton her retracon and then renewed
and thought that such scandal published and such
conflict inaugurated would be the ruin Substantially of
all OF these parties
O. Well you understood that az the time OF these con
Trajectory statements made by Mrs rDton she was nv
A. did; will not say about the letter; don't think
got the exact details OF that.
O. What letter you speak Of A The letter that In
referred retractiOn am not sure that the date
or the time the Of the giving Of that letter %
the details OF Mr. Tton obtained that letter, were
stated l don't think they were
@ Weni A. Contnuing.l But understood that she
was i'll when Mr. Beecher got the retraction from her
O. And you understood that retractioD she had
expressed the that she weared INTO the state
ment which she made by the opportunities OF her bus
eandi A. Yes.
O. And you thought thar under these circumstances
the making Of these statements
would operate as her ruini A. Yes, sir
q. You did not suppose the communicating
The witness nterrupting LOT course assumed tina,
she would adhere her husband in the renewed charge
O. You did suppose that the fact-the mere Tact or
the commandments fact OF the solicitations OF
Mr. Beecher repealed by Mrs. TtOn being made public
would ruin her. did you A. No, | did not
O. Well Sir II Mr. Beecher was innocent OF that aecu
sation did you suppose the making Of It public would
ruin him A. Gid, Sir supposed that a. the case
then stood
Mr.. Beach IinterruptingI-Wll you simply answer my
questions
The Witness [continuingl-And as it was presented TO
O. INSTRUMENTATION supposed it would ruin him
even II he was innocent Of the chargcf A. substan-
TALLY ruin him, made and supported by the wife, and
backed by the papers then presented to me Thoughts
there was great danger Of its running MI Beecher.
O. Even although he able TO maintain his inno-
cencei A. Even although he able 10 assert his IN
nOcence although he might In fact be innocent
O. You therefore labored for the suppression OF the
scandal and OF these documents A. did, sir; the
word suppression" does not exactly express 1t; Ia
bored for their extnguishment / abored TO have it
killed outright so could never be revived again.
O. And did those labOrs continue after the investigae
ing Committee was called A. Yes, Sir think they did.
in a
O Well did they in factt A. Yes. in fact.
O. Then after the Investigating Committee was called
and after Beeeher had determined TO have fun and
radical examination OF this matter, you labored "
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