The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-07
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INTERVIEW NUMBER TWO.

\ nuinOef ODe. Governor Tfldcn had authorized Mr..
Peckham 70 give tue facts 10 the press, and this
reserve melted away rs quickly as the snow
\ unier the influence Of the sul 3 vernal rays.
4 mr. PEcKHAM-Wei all can tell you is tnat
4 ingersnll = 20 pc used as witness against the
Ring IN the civil SUITS
Y REr0NTER--Nr. PecEnan, VINO made the applca-
h tion for PARDON?
Mr PlcEHAM-I aid / havn'r copy OF my
4 letter, but y was only three lines.
4 yOursell2
i Mr. PrcEHAM-Nobody. II was not necessary, as
hat previously consulted with the Governor on
i the subject OF in0erg0ll's release.
i REPoRfER-What guarantees have you that now
that lngersoii IS Tree he Will not refuse 10 testify
i Mr. PsCKHAM Dangling heartily as though that
| would be too good JOKE altogether-O well,
\ have looked out or rhat. Ii he violates MS
1 promise wen send back 10 where ne came rom
\ there are hail dozen other indictments against
Tus settled that question.
REPoRrER-Wny did you not try to obtain his
1 testimony before ne was conylc:eu9
/ Mr. PECEIAM--I did. negotiated with him. but
\ he Kept back certain things ana hence we allowed
/ justice TO take Its course. But
that he VIII tell al he knows ana VIII be OF use IN
/ certain things. OF course cannot tell you all the
| details preceding that pardon, but all l know
/ And Mr. Pecknam laid vioient hands on an even
l ing paper and began TO read IL win absorbing in
\ terest The reporter murmured his thanks and
4 vanished.
INTERVIEW WITH CHARLES O'CONOR.
At nine O'Clock last night a HERALD reporter
alighted at the lodge gate OF the residence
4 OF Mr.. Charles 0'Conor at Fort Washington. All
i was darkness. and the night WIND sighed through
the lea1ess branches overhead. The reporter con-
\ graduated himself on having many times during
/ daylight wandered up the narrow brick footpath
that leads from the gate to the house.
ring at the bell brought the servant, who IN
| formed the reporter that Mr.. O'Conor would be at
leisure IN a few moments The writer had wan
dersd through two pages or the Diary of'the Attic
Philosopher before Mr.. O'Conor made MS appear
ance IN the iiorary. When the great lawyer had
seated himself the reporter made known his bust
ness, stating that he had called 20 learn the
reason which had induced the discharge OF Inger-
4 SOL.
| Mr.. O'Conor said he was quite willing to give the
\ HERALD any Information which would be or bene.
4 NJ to 1t or the public, suggesting at the same
/ time that the reporter frame the questions on
\ wnicn light was desired.
REFoETER-What were the considerations
which induced the discharge Of Ingcrsons
WHY 1NGERsoLL WAS PARDoNED.
lr. 0'CoSoR-The principal consideration in
voved In the discharge Of Ingersoll IS the benent
he will be to the prosecution in the civil suits
! against the Ring dehnquents HIS intorma ton ia
not new. We know all that ne knows. but he
alone can testify to it, having been party to many
OF the transactions winch made the Ring notorious
ana infamous.
REPoRTE2-But Mr.. Ingerson has been proven
guilty OF completely in the frauds and his punish
ment decreed BY the Court.
Mr.. oCoNoR-rhat, or course, we know, but
viewed in another light, lngersons crime is not
as black as that Of his companions. He has stolen
money, but IN committing that sin he has not
been douoly guilty as the others have. He has
violated no trust, broken no oath. From the very
beginning OF this crusade II as been TO visit
justice on the men VINO have di,sipaIed the public
confidence, squandered the public money and de-
moraiized the public mind. Ingersoll has been
confined in jan Tor nearly two years. and one
can doubt but That he VIII be OF more service to
the public rs a witness during the trials tnan he
! would be as convict for three years more.
REPoRfER-Was the IDEA OF using Ingersoll as
witness a recent one
Mr.. O'CoNor-No. we mad IT in our mind long
before he was convicted Perhaps your next
question will be why did we let him suffer ms cad
oi using him forthwith. Don't ask the question,
as | VII not answer Our reasons for convlcting
| him are our own.
REPoRrER-0f course, you know where all the
money drawn BY Ingersoll went tor
WHERE IHE MONEY WENT.
Mr. O'CoNoR-les From the bank accounts II
appears taat ne drew millions, but we know tnat
he ala nor keep il All lie neld il fr the nour. but
Il was divided aiierward with the man VINO gave
HIM the check.
RErosTER-fhere were other men for whom the
prosecutors Of the Ring we're looking. Are they
70 be forthcoming IN tie new suits?
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