New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-14

A. IT was in part this not designed 10 give ue
failed and perfect history, but a general history
sketch, and it left out multitude OF things.
MR. TILTON'S PUBLICATIONS ON MARklAOE
AND DIVORCE
Q. Yes, very well now, what had you heard
at that time as to his notions in regard to marriage ana
divorce prior to December, 1901 mean from Inc IN
dependents A. Ihad heard from various sources -
O. From The independent A. What, Sirf
O What were his teachings in The Independent IN re
gard 70 marriage and divorce as you understood t' A..
DO YOU ask me what the opinion that at the time
formed in re gard to those teachingsi
O What were the teachings OF The Independent uhuer
the direction of Mr. Ton. regard to marriage and d
yorce as you understood them' A did not mysel1 IN
yestigate his teachings and only took up that whch
heard spoken about them by others; saw that thero
was dissatisfaction with Them
o. What did YOU believe in December 1870 his
opinions TO be upon that subjectnamey marriage ana
divorced A. / supposed them to be in 1901 cannot
give any very close description OF what my Dehe1
then was only that believed that he had enlarged the
causes Of divorce and made 80 face that regarded
At ~ being In it's practical tendency very mischevous
O. Yes Sir; loose did You not think they weref a.
thought they were very much too loose
O. And did you not judge so from his articles IN The
independent! A. I cannot say that did; for AMI
must confess that not great reader OF them.
O. Didn't you know what they were without having
read themi A. Only gathered it from the converse
ton OF others.
O. Well as you gathered it from the conversation OF
others did you not think these doctrines in that regard
were pernicious in the extremef A knew that that
was the impression about them in the cOmmunity and
If was correctly informed, that he held doctrine OF
divorce that made 1t acle and that caused II OF put
all on the individual wish and votOn; should hold
that 10 be a very dangerous doctrine
O. Well did you think man that taught those doc
Mo- mi
@ Did you think that a man that taught those doc-
trues was lit to be at the head of paper such as The
Independent was A. If he had held doctrines Of
O. No. no; don't want any Of that character
not 81" he had held dOcrines-but am aluding TO the
doctrines which you believed that he at that time hed
and ncucaed A. did not believe in any definite doc
trines held and inculcated as have said was
not close reader of his articles was not appi1sed-
O. am not referring to what you learned from reading
Che articles referring to the conviction winch you
had at that tme-whether from reading the articles con-
yersing with Mr. TOn, the common speech OF people
Judging from the information that you had at that tlme
did you think him to be fit moral or religious teacher
A I cannot answer your question very closely, Mr. Full
,lerton because question whether he was fit moral
teacher based on grounds which had not particularly
examined, did not come to my mind
O. am not as ling you to give any opinion growing out
,Of particular examination Of his doctrnes am asking
,your Judgment, based upon the views that you enter
taincd that time. from what you had seen, heard or
readi A. II did not affect in my mind his general fitness
the conduct of great paper; it put him into the
schoo-,he Creation this subject there are the two
extremes in the great school
O. Well won't into extremes in the schools or in
ths answers hut let ask You If he did not begin at
that time to shadow FORTH edOray his loose opinions
of marriage and divorce A. understood that lie did.
O. wcni A. He Swallowed those things which became
substantial afterward
O. Well did you think that, shadowing forth those
loose opinions in great paper like The independent that
no WAS ut at the head of A. 1t might have BEEN
Sir in that young and that was in the field
OF discussion.
O. Did YOU think bis doctrinesthe effect that his doc
would produce upon the public mind would depend
upon his agei A. If his understanding depended upon
his age. It would.
O. 80 that If person is young they may with impunity
teach improper doctrncsi A. man that young may
with impunity teach crude doctrines.
O. not talking about crude doctrines. Mr. Beecher;
am talking about shadowing forth eoally his loose
o,,nions of marriage and divorce A. understand it,
ySir.
@. Now, then A. And understood that the shadow
ding forth crude holding of certain views Of divorce
which believed might correct and at any rate, not
vet any such form to be definitely dan
gerOus.
O. You heard read the article from The Independent by
your counsel in this case did you not-pubshed prior to
that tinei A. heard IL, Sir
O. Didn't you think that that doctrine dangerousa
A. I have forgotten it, Sir.
O. You heard il read, did you mott A. heard il read
O. Have you forgotten that you call to mind
tho particular features OF it, A. cannot.
O. You understood did You not, that ii read here
for the purpose OF showing to this jury that Mr. Tons
doctrines at that time peynciousi A did not
derstaDd II 80, Sir.
q, And didn't you think they were A. don't remem-
Der the article, Sir
q It's I do ~ nhert Tho arfi.
cle-Of course could not know it's meaning
@ You have forgotten II since Ii readf A. have
forgotten it, Sir; but will read 1t and express at later
period If you desire
oh, no, Sir; afraid you would forget 1t again A
surely would in less than week.
O. Now, what did you learn from Mrs. Tilton, at the
time that she consulted yOu whether was safe for
her TO bring up her children under such influences
respect his doctrines in relation TO marriage and d
vorcei A. don't think that that prominently.
IL at all into conversation. think that her mind