The New York herald., 1875-03-19

Q. Did not some person IN the meeting say that
the policy OF silence which mad been suggested
best thing to do was 10 try TO i've down the scan-
dalS A. do not recollect that. There was a
committee appointed, think TO walt en- Mr.. Til
ton and another party.
Q. Just looi at the record and point out the
date. A. Will II II Is on the minute book.
ANOTHER BOOK FUSS.
quite unable 10 get even with Fullerton on eti-
que,te Shearman rushed upon a book, smaller
than the first which Halliday was holding, and
said that he produced 1t only py courtesy.
Mr.. Fullerton said that he did not accept 1t by
any courtesy. snearman then snatched the book
and wanted to run on with it.
NOW. gentlemen" said Judge Nelson, appeal
ingly. 'ler US be good natured In this Mr.. Shear
man, the Court will esteem It O courtesy to have
the book"
1--WE accept the courtesy a. the Court's," said
Fullerton.
Shearman next got among the plaintiffs law
yers, put his back against desk, and demanded
his books again. The books were duly put
through. the witness Kept up his clatter, and we
all saw the dogdays in perspective and still the
Plymouth trial going on.
Mr. Fullerton read resolution in the minute
book to the effec that committee be appointed
to investigate the alleged misconduct OF u member,
had recollection OF opposing such resolution.
z. recall your attention TO the meeting OF
OCTOBER ~, 1877, OF the OOaru OF OeacODS. ask
you how long before that had you seen Mr.. Ben
A. think saw HIM on the Tuesday evening be.
lore, IN me cnurch parlors; 40 not remember
that Mr.. Bell told me ne came from Mr.. Beecher
to say that he did want a meeting Of the
deacons; think would remember that II he said
It,
Q. At the meeting OF the s0th of October was Mr.
r. ID. Benedict presently A. do not remember: the
records will show; the deacons were SO many that
at Mr.. MoutOns house In the spring oI 1872, and
again in Octooer, 1872; had conversation with
door and asked me into the parlor: SAID to uer
slow IS 1T that you are mixed up IN this Wood
hun scandal p" she said tnat she mad nothing to
do with IL whatever: tnat Mrs. woodruff mad no
right TO use her name; she said, "Mr. Halliday,
Mr.. Beecher Is my pastor and has been so from
childhood, and believe IN him, and nothing they
can say against him can shake my confidence IN
him."
Mr. Fullerton read from the witness previous
testimony to snow tnat these were not the words
he had used when giving that testimony.
g who called your attention to the portrait or
A. Mrs. M0utoD; DO not remember wnat she
sald to me IN regard @ 10 the n picture, nor DO 81
Mrs. Moulton testify In this court; cannot now
rememoer what ner testimony was.
Mr. Fullerton said 1t Is for the witness to state
in wnat his memory differs from others this
occasion and 1t Is Tor me 10 ask.
Judge Nelson said 1t is simple fact and wit
Wltness-I read her testimony and II you let me
see 1t to refresh my memory will answer the
question.
The BOOK containing the testimony OF Mrs.
oulton was shown TO Mr.. Halliday, who put on
his spectacles and perused It, Witness continued,
saying that IN the first place he did not tell her
he was sixty years old. Mr.. Fullerton remarked,
sYou may nave got 1t all wrong" and Mr.. Halli-
day retorteo, II nave got it all right"
Mr.. Fullerton said his object was to call Witness
attention to what sne sad IN regard % TO wnat oc;
Witness-Tne difference is she says she didn't
remember the hrst part OF that sentence; now
the part she has forgotten remember.
Q. The language Imputed to her Is not the
language you gave as purportlng to be from herr
witness said ne thought he had answered that
question.
made by the counsel, as they were not courteous
to the witness.
Mr.. Fullerton discaimed any such intention.
q. Was anything else SAID at that interview eX.
cept what you nave stated? A. No, we were brief
in our C lnversatlon; l don't think there was; I
stayed there but little while because Mr.. Aoulton
O. Now, was there anything else said before the
examining committee or the Board OF Deacons OF
Plymouth church In regard 10
THE wOopHULL SCANDAL
that you have not mentionedS A. think IL posi-.
BILE there may have been; ] am not positive; re-
member MIR. Beecher was once appointed a COM
mittee and he reported; Kept the records OF the
Q. DID you see the West charges A. 1 did I;
when they were presented was clerk OF the COM
mittee ior tAat meeting; tnat ID my recoaecsion,
not IN that D0Ok.
@. When were these charges presenteds A.
think 1T was IN June, 1879.
Q, Where was that meeting neld A. believe
the meeting was held IN the parlors OF the church.
q. Who were present at that meeting? A. There
were present Captain duncan and Mr.. Ropes /
can't remember any other person distinctly, un-
less LOOK at the record
o. VINO presented the West chargesf A. Ny
impression Is that Mr. West presented them him
sell.
O. What action was taken by the church COM
mlttee Vnen the charges were presented by MIR.
West9 A. The question was as to the reception
or exception TO the charges: can't be confident
as to which OF the expressions were used the
result Was equiVaient, at all events, to allowing
and were reIerred back TO him TO complete; there
were some alterations needed subsequently In the
charges, but when that was can't recoiect; my
memory is tnat the third specification Was not
added when Mr.. West sent them back; month
later he said he desired TO make an addition to
the charges, and then the third specification was
made.
Q. At wnst meeting did he present any other
chareesY A. think 1t was IN June-ln the latter
part or The month.
Q. VINO were present at that meetlugq A.
could not recoect single one that was present
q. We're you there, Ar. halliday 7 A. was
there.
Q. Was Captain Duncan thereP A. Yes. Cap.
tain Duncan and the clerk OF the Board were tnere
think; could refresh myself on that point rom
the minutes but don't remember exactly what
rs to what took place; will bring the oIotter or
the meeting, from which the minutes were tran
scrlDed.
q. Was there at that meeting any action taken
as 10 the prosecution OF those chargess A. Ny
answer would De Yes" and 'INo;" there was q
resolution adopted to prosecute them, and then 1t
WAS iound that they were not complete, and
there were several coInlngs and goings before toe
final action was taken and any special action was
adopted by the committee.
Z. WHAT was the nnal action OF the committeef
A. 1t would be better for me not 10 answer that
question until can produce the minutes; Will
bring them in the morning.
q. Did you have any conversation with Mr.. west
In regard to these charges, and did you try 10
dIssuade him from pr scouting themY A. did,
SIR, because regarded them as incomplete; there
were irregularities IN them.
q. Point out 10 me wnat you regarded as slncom-
pleteS (Mr. Fullerton handed witness book contain
ing portion OF the printed West charges.) Look
at the charges presented at the meeting OF June
80 and point out wherein they are incomplete; |;
wherein the Irregularities occur, and how they
were huaily LAID before the conmiLteeS A. There
Ia not half the matter contained In the charges
presented by Mr.. West here; there was long
strip OF prirted matter attached 10 them.
q. Will you point out any imper rectlons In that
part A. 1 cannot point out the imperiectionS
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