The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-28

Mr. Beecher's pres nee was at a subsequent meet
ing wnen Mr.. Beecher made ms report; he re.
ported TO the committee tninS, In writing, that
he had seen Mr.. lilton; .hat he was IN very
critical position; am not repeating Mr.. Beechcr's
language. only giving the substance oil III; Mr.
Beechcr reported that Mr.. 1ilton at that time was
IN "A very critical position; that he iad many
troubles pecaniary and Otherwise; tnhJ lie hau
been SUR rounded by bad Influences; that II would
be DETER to leave Mr.. Tllt0n to the Influences oi
his friends, ana that 1t would be best lot the COM
mitee to take no action In settling Mr.. iilohs re-
lalIoDs to the caurch no action was taken.
z, was any acton alter mat taken oy u Inc US
Mr.. Iilgonr A. IL was taken IN November, 1872,
after the puDication OF tue woodruff scandal
q. WHAT was done IN reference 10 tnaS III con-
necton with MI. Beechery a. Mr.. Beecher sent
request, the assistant pastor, Mr.. Halliday 30
stated; had conversation a'terward with MI.
Beccher, in consequence OF this communication
from Mr.. Halnday; Mr.. Halliday stated to the
deacons OF the church
o. What did you say to Mr. Beecher In regard TO
what Mr. Halliday had communicated TO the COM
mittees A. called on MIR. Beecher at his house,
THINK it was in the early pars OF November. and
THE EXAMINING COMMITTEE
to go and confer with Mr.. nlton IN regard to his
position IN relation TO the Woodruff scandal. l
my motion; Mr. Beecher told me that he thought
1t would be better 10 meet this Whole anair OF the
thought this would be mistaken policy; that the
church was suffering great deal rom this scan.
ana utterly destroy il; told MIN that Mr.. Tilton
was member Of the church; mat ne (tlitonno
scandal; l said to Mr.. Beecner that Mr. Illtol
had been called TO explain with regard
to this scandal; Mr.. Beecher replied with Some
force to what said he said That he was then very
busy ana THAT lie woulo meet the committee III
two or three weeks; replied to that that the
SUFFERING MUCH FROM THE SCANDAL,
and that the committee ought TO mold It's meetings
at once IN reference to the scandals tins CONVERSE
ton took place In Mr.. Beecner's study; then we
went into the paror. where Mr.. Beecner resumed
the conversation Dy saying that this whole story
rested
When Mr.. est used the bad word which Mr..
Beecher had employed. saying that the whole
Woodruff scandal rested on the testimony OF two
women OF bad reputation, that clergyman, wear
ing the very red almost crimson lace he mad had
al days, was looking up to the top of one
OF the tall windows. He kept that position HIS
wife by his side wore q white knit cap or COM
forter round her head; slight crystal eur drops
we're in her ears; his palm rested upon her shou
der. Next to her sat Edward Beecher, resembling
tribe Mr.. Peter Cooper, and with be-
reaved appearance. because he had no umbrella.
An umbrella more than an abb would seem IL.
ting for Edward.
The expression of Mr. Beecher is that OF wounded
resignation, sense or iorsworn enemies closing
in on HIM. touch Of belligerency under burden
OF pain.
Witness went on to say that Il he iMr Baecherl
attack; but he said that II any person OF
would make 0ox such atta S npEa
reply 10 IT; l told him 1t seemed to me
that Mr.. TiltOn was responsible person: that ne
was named as the author the originator or the
scandal; that l thought 1t was his duty to deny
the assertion made by Mrs. woodruff; ne did not
and that II he did not explain his position sailsiac-
torlly that he SHOULD be dismissed RON the church,
aud as u reault OF the conversation MIR. Beecner
named day wnen he would meet with the com.
mittee at his house some two weeks alter That
time.
q. Did he meet with the committee A. He did
meet with the committee; the committee met at
his house during the latter part OF November or
o. What occurred at the meetugs A. MIR.
Beecheft told the committee that ne mad seen The
oaore IN regard to this matter; that Theodore mad
expressed 70 him great grief AND sorrow at the
publication OF Mrs. woodruff and offered to do
1t; he spoke Of the friendship which existed be.
tween Mr.. Tliton and himself; he said thas he did
no, tnk Mr. iTn mad S ever done ne anyhng H.
luton would IN short time, before the
lst Of January puUsh wh in the Go nn,%
deny the Woodruff story, and he ADVISED
tnat the committee snoud take no action; thai
Inc ' committee decided tosdoSts, that is TO rec.
Commend such action to the examining commit.
tee, and also recommended az Tie same time tnat
this subject snouid continue in order that II Mr..
Hilton did not publish such card that he might
be waited upon by the committee: such a card
TO my Know ledge, was not published; no actIon
WAS taken, TO my knowledge. by the committee iol-
lowing the n0n-pubcatioa OF tue card; tue next
interview mad win MIR. Beecher IN regard to tue
matter, AS l remember was Oh the night |
lald the charges before tile examining COM
mittee; i made charges against Theodore
Hilton before the examining committee on
the evening OF the 27th of June. 1873;
the charges were land before the committee in
writing; they were retained by the committee for
a time, but they were returned to me 10 be
amended; did amend them, and us amended
they were laid before the committee on the even
ing oil July l. 1873 tMr. Fullerton called on The
other side for tins paper wrote to Mr. Beecher
fha NJ In nm wa nf hara Uhan
the letter read IN evidence witness Identifies
the letter he wrote to mir. Beecncr); saw mr.
churcn; tue examining committee had just lett
the lecture room III order to receive my
charges; | speak OF that because the con-
yersaiion referred to 1t, and MIR. Beecher came
toward me and told Inc ne had received my lie tier,
that he was glad TO near from me, and he thought
not good time 10 bring this matter.ueiore the
church; many OF the members OF the Church are
going into the country soon. ana IL would be bet
ter to postpone the matter. ana II you Will put 1t
or until ia | Will then unite with you IN having
thorough lngcsugation.n tod Mr. Beecaer that
| was opposed " any delay IN the matter that
thought action should DC taken at once; that the
scandal was doing great damage to the churcn,
aud that | would proceed In the matter at once
and use every effort In my power 10 bring this
m matter TO an issue with Mr. idi.on; Mr.;
act contrary TO my Wishes" Our conversation
was interrupted at that tmc by Captain Charles
Duncan coming to the door and saying that the
Examining committee desired to see US; Captain
Duacan addressed Mr.. Beecher and myself; Mr..
said, yourself and Brother Vest" Mr.. Beecner
replied, al have nothing to say TO the commttee;'
Captain Duncan sald "Brotner West has u matter
to lay before the commlttee;" Mr.. Beecher then
turned 10 me and said, ''Brotner West Knows very
well what my WISHES IN this matter are:" told
Mr.. Beecner was sorry 10 act contrary TO his
wishes, but was compelled TO do IL from sense
OF duty; then followed Captain Duncan to the
trustees room; when Mr.. Beecner made that last
reply TO me MS tone was
ANGRY AND THREATEN1NG;
went upstairs TO the committee, but Mr.. Beecher
ala not; laid the charges before the committee;
the papers now produced contain the amended
charges; ! have in my pocket the charges that
were laid before the committee on tile evening n
question. (Wltness produces the charRes) At
TIE request OF Mr.. Fullerton witness enclrcled In
red pencil that part OF the charges that was read
SLEEPY PAIR
As Mr.. Fullerton proceeded to read the West
charges, thus rcvving In civil court the old
formula OF a deiunct and neilcenr court ecclesl-
astica. Edward Bcecher was fast asleep, Mrs.
Beecher was very sleepy, and Mr.. Beecher
looked on AUTOMATICALLY. Mr.. Tracy was not