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The Scandal Trial.
Mr.. BEEcHEg's TESTIMONY CONTINUED.

hand in any sense your composition!
AIN no sense whatever is it any com
position of mine.
Mr.. Evarts.-Is it copy or reproduction
of any dictation of yours? AIN no pro
per sense of the word dictation" did
dictate it.
| Q.-l ask your attention now to the hrs
clause Of that memorandum, which read
thus, =" ask through you Theodore Til
toms forgiveness, ard | humble myself be
fore him as | do before my God"-dit yol
express that sentence in those words, or thei
equivalent, to Mr.. Moulton that night
Al did not; did say that in view o
the statements made, | felt that l hal
wrongei him and had wropged his house
hold. and that had humbled myself befor
God for it, and that was willing to hum
BILE myself before Mr.. Tilton.
Q.-This clause, he would have been {
better man in my place than | have been
did you express that clause in those words
or any equivalent expression? A i die
substantially that. a good many time
over.
ON what connection and in refer
ence to what topic, concerning which you
were speaking? AIN reference to thu
fact that had a. it were. almost on thu
first blush, sided against Mr.. Tilton and with
Mr.. Bowen: when | was in difficulty. Mr.
Tilton had instantly and with most generous
spontaneity, dropped everything and comt
to my service and help, and when he was
in trouble | at once took sides against
him.
Q.-was that your feeling at that time ID
comparing your conduct, as it stood before
you, with his conduct as you remem bered il
toward yourself? Al remember 1t very
| distinctly | shall not forget it till the
| judgment day.
Odd you express in these words, thi-
-" can ask nothing except that he Will
remember all the other hearts that would
ache ," A---No, Sir | did not make any
statement which is expressed by that formu-
ia; did in that conversation repel the
idea that was acting selfshly. and | did
call up, in various forms and at different
times in the conversation, and rcpetitious-
ly. the relations which sustained to other
persons in my household, and in his house
hold, ana II tho friends in the church
that loved me H. 1t | belonged u their
| households.
Odd you express in tbesi words. or
in any equivalent. this - | Will NOT plead
for nys.if; | even wish | were dead: bat
others must live and suffer- A--rhat i
not my phraseology. and it Is a very pale
intensity with which expressed my slrr0w
to lie in the sorrow OF other people
did not measure ny words nor finish
all my sentences, and am afraid even mix
ed nv metaphors. There wi- no intensity
that was capable Of that did 2Ot pass
through in the various phases OF my ieel-
ings, and sometimes 1t IVES the lace-ailon
of nv own heart At what it seemed - me
had done towards Theodore. some
times it was the intense feelings at
what Inv presence in the household had
done towards Elizabeth . sometimes 1t was
indignation az what Elizabeth had done to-
wares me. and i; wa Just that oscillation
and vibration which takes place IN very
highly excited state Of mind ii | expressed
Indignation was sorry iaf the Indignation
in the next word, and went, perhaps.
to the other extreme Of accusatOry state
ment.
Odd yOa dictate this clause, will
die before any one bat myself shall be ln-
culpated " in these words or in any oquiya-
lent expression A-Well, no; no such
phrase a this. have looked through this.
referring to the memorandum which he
held in his hand and do not think | see
phrase in il thar i my own, and yet
think | see the source from which a good
many OF them were drawn; | did express
myself very strongly that ! had rather die
than 70 have brought such trouble or to IN
crease such trouble that 50 far as | myself
alone was concerncL | counted lie very
small if | could make reparation but 1t
was not anything practical and definite
it was strong expression of surglDg feel
ing. regret, and remOrse at the mischief
that seemed 30 have been Committed by rse.
Q-l ask your attention to the next sen
tenco that appears IN the memOrandum-
"All my thoughts are running toward my
friends, toward the poor child lying there,
praying with her folded hands y A. tin
tcrruptlng) )-Ies-
Q. (continuing) Did you express what
is there Avery likely
q. (continung) Appears m that CLAUSE?
Avery likely; IN substance; 1t l. very
poor expressiOn-yery mcagre.
Q.-What did You say, and in what con
nection? 4 i DO not remember exactly
what said know that ! felt like father
that was standing over the dead body Oi
chill: | remembered her-!t was like death
in her sorrow, ard she had been dear
child and friend 20 me. and | seemed to have
DESTROYED her-her reason or her moral
sense, and perhaps her life, for she was how
ering on the edge OF life and death. and
spoke a. one would speak OF the intensity OF
my distress.
Q.-During this conyersation were there
any suggestions made by Mr.. MDultOn in
regard 10 your feelings tor Others. and not
being exclusively concerned about Your own
position? \ A-l-he reasOne! the night
belore-on the 3lst-with me on that
ground. when | refused in self-di enco 10
give up the retractiOn, at first, and thought
that that selfish consideration would be
vcrv likaiv al. S,t..a
point of the conversation. may have dealt
in the same way with me on Sunday alter
noon, but do not now recall distinctly any
question of that kind it Is very likely 20
have happened, Sir.
Odd YOU use these words, or their
equivalent, d contained IN the next clause
OF the memorandum, she l. gulltless
sinned against, bearing the transgreSsion OF
another" Avery likely. very likely
but had lived in their household a lie of
intimate friendship for many years. and If
had alenated her affections in such a degree
and manner rs that it brought diSeOrd, and
such DISTRESS rs even to destroy her moral
sense. OF rather her reason-Ii had been
the occasion OF that. that mischief | took to
myself How could any man stand there
and see this trouble
Mr.. Beach (interrupting) That Is nat
ter Of reasoning. Mr.. Beecher; one moment.
Mr. Beecher-Well, | won't reason. |
took the blame TO myself. and | continued
to take it to myself until the year 1874.
Q-And this following clause. Mr.. Beech
er-are these your words. or tho expression
of what you stated in substance : 'ller
forgiveness have. humbly pray to God
that he may put it into the heart of her
| husband to forgive me ?" A.-No, Sir :;
| that sentence must 20 with all the rest IL
| is not of my parentage THE question
came up of Mr.. TiltOn's ieeling-the s.
verify of his feeling the DRIFT oi the inter
view was such a statement on my part, or
| such an exhibition of my mood and purpo-
es. as should lay the foundation Tor Il kird
interference between us. and Ieconclrl-
ton, and Mr.. fIiton's teelings-the strength
| OF them WIS justified, and when lad
shown what my feeling was, 1t led II con-
versation in respect to the feeling all
round.
Q.-Between you and Mr. MouitJn? A.
Between me and Moulton. And il was in
connection with Elizabeth Iilton that
said. in many repeated forms. that felt
had done her an incalculable wrong that
mad no doubt whatever OF her forgiveness,
| but il was Mr.TiltOn whose kindness and re-
Cancellation ! very much doubted, whose
next friend, Mr.. MIultOn, Was talking with
me and he wasaS-uring me, too. tndt tbe
difficulty with Mr. I1itun was that ne had
it firmly fixed in his mind that | was his
mortal enemy-hdd been and he himself
was satisfied that il he could see how | dad
feel, as he believed | iclt, it wouii work
very different state OF feeling ia Mr.
TiltOn.
CONTRADICTIONS OF TILrJS's EyIDENCE
Il. describing the Interview with Tilion
and MJultOn, IN reference 10 an ex-
preston ciaimel to have bsen used by
flton, MIR. Beccher said that such Ian
guage was wholesale fiction. absolutely
false, and had never been used Wen
called upon to deny the ,nversati"us
sworn to by Mr.. 1i.ton, in which the de-
tails Of the alleged intimacy were talked
over as common every Gay tJI,c, ne es-
claimed. No, sir odIously ialss - and
when the question was put III another form
he broke out with the interruption I'D Is
intolerable almost to be asked that ques'
ton, but, before Almighty God, no such