The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1875-04-15

Beecher, OF an interview toward
the close OF December. He gives II 1872, the per-
iod we are now at. Now, toward the end of this
month OF December. or during the mon, h of De
do you remember any interview between
Moulton, 11lton and yourself. at which the mat
ter OF
SOME PUBLIC DENIAL,
in some form, was considered, and any papers
produced, or.read, or examined? A. Nothing in
November; there was a conference about the
last OF December. Q. Where did that occur?
A. At Moulton's house. Q. Who were parties
to that consideration, and who were present?
A. Well, Tilton, Mrs. Tilton and myself were in
immediate consultation, and in the preparatory
stage of it, Moulton. Mr.. Moulton said to me
that Tilton had got a plan, he thought,by which
he could make some form of statement that
would clear him of imputations that were rest
ing upon him, and at the same time the whole
matter could be set in such a way be-
fore the publ as would be for the
furtherance of the interests OF ali
when Mrs. rilton was present, Mr. Beecher, there
were some letters, were there not? A. Yes; we
had. had been requested to prepare n letter of
denial TO accompany a statement, If such a one
should be m sde, and Mrs. Tilton was to make a
statement also in denial, and Mrs Tilton was TO
TO 60 into some sort of a statement.
Q. But IL was when some matters of that kind
were up that Mrs. Tilton was present. a. Yes,
sir. O. Now, prior TO that, was there an inter-
view between yourself, Moulton and Tilton,
az mas S SeeS called S r og wa read
a. No. q. Was there an occasion al which that
was read? A. Yes, sir.Q. When was it? A. Later
A. Moulton, myself and Hilton. @
Where did r the meeting take
@. Now, state what took place there. A. Moul-
ton told me that Tilton would come around and
read statement that he had prepared l bad
ing something. 1 asked Moulton what 10 was.
He said that he didn,t know; he had not read
to him and to me that night So / went there
TO hear 1T and Tllton-shall give you the
ints s,I,6N Gor9 Yes just state it.
papers, and opened the matter 10 me by saying
that there was one single sentence that il /
the whole document, ana then he commenced
reading. He didn't read the sentence. He began
reading what was called afterwaId the 'Iiue
sage in which l was charged with asking
Mrs. TIlton TO be wife TO me, with all
be looked up nd said That is sentence th n
If you can stand, the rest of the document wont
hurt you" made no reply. | was lying on
the bed. think he went on reading,
GETTING NADER AND NADER,
and when he had finished, got up and began to
walk around the room and said nothing, but
finally think he or MOulton asked
me what had to say. MUIR
murs of applause among the audience.l said
"Mr. TIlton-It is not for me TO say what you
shall. or you shah not publish, but L want you
TO understand that IL yor publish that state
ment, and that sentence in It., will not stand
lie nor sgree TO ii, and Il is The end. will not
have any such statement as that come out and
not meet it peremptor ly." At that he gathered
himself lion Ike, his face blushed and he began
to storm verv loud on the subject, and MOulIon
took him in hand Instantly and drew
back back out OF 1t, and the lion and
1t was a good lively discussion and in respect to
the struoture'to the whole document and in re.
the time Moulton was in the ascendancy and
part OF the time thought that Tllton had the
best of 1t, and 1t went on so for very consd ra-
BILE period and ended unsatisfactory to
that was the substance OF that interview.
q. And was that all that was said during that
interview by you on the subject2 A. That was
the substance of what wss Said during that in
teryiew by me. Ny remarks were not many.
then. | heard them diPlomaiize
NEW YORK, April Sat the Beeeher-Tilton
trial to-day there were many persons present OF
both sexes, not known to the old attendants.
Mrs. Field is the only member of Mrs. Tilton's
coterie who appears in court with any regular
ity. Mr.. Beecher came in with his wife and
sons, and a few moments after took the
witness chair Q. Do you remember the publt-
cation of a portion of what is called the
TRIPARTITE AGREEMENT?
Do you remember its publication in the public
prints? A. remember the whole of It being
published. q. Do you remember what time il
occurred? A. do. Q. When was it, A. On
the 3Oth of May. think it was published on
Friday morning. Q. Subsequent to this publi-
cation and connected with it, was there any
| interviews between you and Tilton, or Moulton
A. There were interviews between Moulton and
me. and Mrs. Moulton. Q. What passed between
you? A. ne wanted to know about it, who and
how about IL. / told him l couldn't tell him
| that ali / knew that l was ap3roac b ed
| about the middle of the week by Mr.. Ed. Ford
| who asked me If had any objection to the pub
/ Sad said to him: We'll, we ali think the
| time is coming when it should be
| iished in New York without your knowing
| without your having anything TO do with 10 and
| no imposSibility about 1t. Would you like it?'
Well said /, "Ihere is no copy there and they
| can't make any publication" II don't care
| anything about that" said lie, "but suppose
should get it put in hand. Would it interfere
with any of your plans, Mr. Bescher?" said
| that thought 1T would be bad policy without
some further consultation about The
think think that very day that cleveland
had come to me and had turned the matter
over in my mind and said to him: "NOw, Cleve-
land. you must 90 right over and stop that
| thing; it ought not TO be published In any such
land seemed TO know CT what service it was
ana that it was published. 1 think
told him of the interview hao
with Cleveland. 1 am pretty sure 1 did
Q. II you told him so you can state 1t? A. H
went to the Tribune office and tried TO stop i
and then went I'D to Sam. Wilkeson's house,w
was the man who was going to publish 1t or had
sent il. 1t was about midnight. He woke Sam
up and told him what they had come for, anC
he said Sam. got up IN his red night shirt RICH
in bed and in the middle
of the bed and swore until everything
was blue in the room and told then
TO go about their business; that that was hi
lookout, that he understood what he was about
and he said
HE DIDN'T CARE A DAMN
for henry Ward Beecher or any other man q
earth, that they were going TO be published
The following letter was shown to the witness:
Il SUNDAY MORNING, June !, 1873.
| MY DEAR FRANK:-Ths whole earth Is tran
, uuil and the helven is serene as BELTS one VIII,
! | mas about finished his world life. 1 could a.
no hing saturday. My head was confused, bu
a good sleep has made it like a crystal hav