The Morning herald., 1875-09-15

Wnere IL was, or Wnetncr II was IN nut
. cave somewhere; never recollect sucl
conversation; 'I'll never tell" is common
by-word for person asked anything an(
doesn't know; in the forepart of September
I told Hartman that they were sus
pected of this; did not, at any time tel
him was working this Gaze for Walling
first met Mr.. William V. Mexican some time
in December, after the killing of M0sher and
Douglass couldn't tell the date it was
after had been to Brooklyn for the bodies,
believe saw him at Suderintendent Wall
ing's headquarters; / was introduced to him
by Walling, who asked me if would tell
him, Mexican, everything l knew in refer
ence to Mosher and Douglass; J. told
him would he told me who Mr.. Mexican
was !; in short time l went up to the Fifth
Avenue Hotel with Mr.. Mexican; did not
tell Mr.. Mexican that my visit to Philadel-
phia on June 25 was for the purpose OF sell
ing gas-burners told himthat ad sold
gas-burners, but not when he asked me
what came to Philadelphia for; ! told him
that I had sold them here when ] lived in
Pl iladelphia don't know as he asked me
what came on for in June, but ! told him
that Came on to sell the mothee; did not
tell Mr.. Mexican that when l came on to
to sell gas-burners on part Of the day previ-
Gus: | did not say to Mr.. Mexican that
made more than one visit to Philadelphia in
August did not state to Mr.. Mexican that
L discovered that this trip to Rondout was
for the purpose of committing burglary
before l left New York told him that
discovered it was to be a burglary when
got to Rondout did not tell him at that
interview that or or or days after my
sister came to New York that took this
Rondout trip, l to d him it was 3 or days
after my sister came on to New York that l
saw Douglass and Mosher did tell him at
that interview that did 60 to Rondout but
don't remember that 1 told him the time;
I could not give him the date; don't rcco-
lect irving to fix the date by anything
went to Rondout with Titus and selleck in
the latter part of December after this inter
view with Mr.. Mexican; on that occasion
when went to Rondout with Tit0s recol-
lect saying nothing to him or in his presence
about the trip to Rondout in September l
did not tell Titus on my way up to Pough-
kepsie that met Mosher and Douglass at
Poughkepsie; don't think Titus and
spoke two words all the way up in the cars;
Titus and Selleck sat together in one seat IN
front of me was two seats behind them I;
l never heard the name of Eddyville before
l heard it here we went up the creek TO-
gether, all three of us, Titus, Sellcck and
we stopped at a hotel at Poughkepsle that
night Selleck and Titus occupied one room
and occupied another; we had lunch De-
fore going to bed; i told Titus that the
was fair in Poughkepsie, when l was up
there and l wanted to know the date of II,
asked man benin the bar: Titus was near
to me when inquired; the man who mad
charge of the place was asked by me il ne
could tell the time the fair was held; he told
me it was on the 22d of September, of last
September; the next morning we took the
train for Rhenebut, crossed over in a ferry
boat to ROndout; we went up an arm OF the
creek to the place where Mosher and Doug
lass and got the boat; we inquired in a
house there Of German family if they
recollected if any one leaving any oars there
in last September; asked that; he told me
he did not recollect of any one; it was the
man who spoke to me; we stopped and talk
ed, for ten minutes, but could not get them
to recollect; we then tried another house,
did not say anything about the appearance
of the house did not know the house, l
did not say on that occasion; 81 see now
they have made some alterations; it is the
next house in the other directiOn;" after
leaving that house we went to the house
next TO it; it might be 100 feet on l should
Judge; there saw lady and several small
children; / asked the lady if she remembered
any one leaving any oars there during last
September; she said she did not; after some
her boy put her in mind of it.;
the boy told her about the oars being left
there; she then said she remembered it;
can't recollect any thing else she said;
went then to find out that and also any in
formation about the child.
Q-Did she recognize you as being one of
The party which was there in September.
Objected to by Mr.. Hagert. Question
withdrew.
Q-What did she say about you, if any
hing.
A-She said nothing; Titus did not ask
me whether we were at ROIfdOut in Septem-
Der: Charley Ross was with us at that time;
nor did l answer him. he was not with us at !.
hat time; can't recollect of any conversa- .
ton had with Titus on the way from Ron :,
lout: had not known him before we went;
,illick was there all the time that he was. !,
o. Was not all the conversation you had
With Titus in the presence of Selleck.
A. It was to the best of my knowledge D..
bave known Selleck upwards Of Is years,
,,.t never in imately; don't'reccollect any :
with Titus about, the letter
which was sent to Rondout except about :
.oing over totbe lighthouse to get the let !,
er, had conversation with ,Supt. Wallipg
lbout it and he stood alongside. l did not
ell Titus at Rondout Of a letter that Bill !
doshcr had written on June Oath, 1874, in !
for me to bring on and mail in :
New York, Titus knew of'the existence Of
hat letter before left New York--Ttus,l
'elleck and 1 returned to- New York that !.
tight, went up. one evening and came down .
he next ; l can't say whether I, Selleck or :
Ttur brought the htter down; I can't say >
low long after / came from Rondout that b
saw Mr.. Mexican, had three invitations 1.
n all, one of them with my sister, that,was :
he first time the LAST interview i was
alled all sorts of names ~ Mr. McKean