New-York tribune., 1875-07-02

10 state what he knew, and IL only after long while
put to hii--he finally gave me the information u'at WI"
| published. lie stated chat he was ..,
in the arrles in Tse We Hcrad To the wiiues
that correctly represent the conversation tna' VVn
placei A. 1t does; there may be some omissions but In
seIHc Judge + RiicyNPubishcd in Tne Hera,d'
Mr. Snell-Yes. Sir the I4th Of June; VII, o
was given to me by Of The editors Of the Office n
Q. Give his name, please A. don't know 'ha' an
Judge Riey~wcll, don't know that that Is material .
that that paper is evidence II might do refresh his
may cv Of the niersew that he had with him sup
pose that the witness can only testhy 10 "h' "0 "'"
Mr. snc-The witness testified that that article cor cor
recy represented the conversation between hry ,hat
nder %ay mn pesby say that these adavs were not
What he pesaa In, a%a 10 ss before that me
Judge Riey-The article is admitted
Rr r Mr. sncllSow Mr. wilcox by whose direction did
yon ny go OF; 10 'l~ i"adcri A one Of the editors
judge sI Sey%I SSy don't think that is material % -,
wish to snbpena ma. e Serds s,Hr on H the
ancston now we can call Mr.. wilcox at the next SESSION.
Honor can decide ne qssUs nt 1ern will
answer tomorrow morning u necessary .oo toaaor
theeafierI a. him pretty nearly every day. day |
questioned him aga and sId IN IN, HerSd
@ Did he rcaflnn this story A. Yes, sr; IN SUD-
stance - H., ,oo ,,oso oed,vits were
made A. saw him the day these alidavits were
made, and think saw hiln aterwaid' IL l hao 'ne
f'op q When did you see Price 4. saw him the same
8 This article of tie iiih of June purpong to he
interview with hm is coect A. ics sir; 1t was avery
O. Did Mr. Loader mention the of Mr. Price to
you A had Prices already given to me: II was Eyrn
ike that questioned Loader about Price, and he sad
he had not seen him for some time time We We
went into drug store and got II, directory,
He said he not sure whether 1t was John Neville
John Neville Price" We found John Price 'oDac
conist, No. go schermcrhorn-st went down h'ie
directly to his house The sorc was closet Went IN
While we were there talking, gentleman mar came M III VINO @
turned ont to be Price senior sKd h "gc cant 7 ' to
and he said he did not know lie was reIca. ~ ~
talk about i'm told lmthatl was come from heHcruM
and glass of ale together ana came back
and after talking while went t1 place where ne siIu
he thought his son would be- We went ana ioihu MN
MIR sncll-That Is all, Mr.. Wilcox
The witness was then crosse xamined as folows:
by Mr.. LoGan-You say wh'n you visited Loader that
he was aycIse 10 making Il staleinentf A. ne was -,
Q. II took how long 10 induce Him SPEAK to3K
about two hours and half was with hiih uh'li HAL
past ten o'clock. II, -
O. You treated hiln didn't youi A. Yes, sir
g. lie had a little more down than he coud carry A;
Well before he made the statements to me "o ohy h"d
O. 1t was by hard persuasion that you got anything
on of him A. 1t was sir, very hard We 'hiy drdhe
once before he answered my questions.
q. You got II him by leading qucsiionsi A.
did In the first instance after that e made statements
O. Well did you go through the same process with Mr.
by Judge Rey-DM you have the same troubled
A. YES, did.
By Sir Logan-In questioning Mr.. Price you had some
information regard 10 what they would be likel! To
sayi \. Yes, sir had information as TO the story.
O. And you also got more from MI Loader az to Wh't
MI Price would say. and when You went to MI Price You
knew Wat he would say A. acs, or no =, oo,o,t,o,
e. You merely Wancd 10 confirm what nc lioadefl had
/
q. You would make statements to him and ask him If
thai "a CoITcCti \. Ncs, sr
O. Really he did uoi volunteer anything to yOui A.
q. In yonr interview with Mr. Loader didn't you often
put questions IN this io1n, " supI~his shYuI vine
70 and So woud you deny iti M No. Sr; do nOt Ie.
member anything of the kind Another time might
G. Mas aiy one present at this interview with Mr.
Ioadcrl A. There when nrst went there; be-
hcye 1t was Mr.. IOaiel's son. .
heard great many questions asked him.
O.. Did You first III, nii1n M. P1ces name 10 hr;
him il any one was working Win INN at the ,ne and
his he saId that somebody was worA.ils
with hun al tine tmc but hc was not sure what ms name
he said they used to call him Jack he sud alter
based Ia larscv on lie inofmat'n Which had before
q Your conversation tended TO persuade him that
Price was the man a. Yes, Sir.
q. The general result OF your conversation was that
Picc tAe mani a. Yes, sir
Q And III that conversation and in looking through the
directory YOU took tie !cadf A. its tnat wound be
Prce working lOr him recently a. lie did not.
Mr.. Logan-That is all
FRANCIS f. DANA's TESTIMONY.
Francis I. Dana then called, and, after being
sworn testified:
BY Mr. enell-Mr. Dana, where do you rcsdei A. No
5i2 Washingon-avc.
O. Are you acquainted with Joseph Loaderi A. am
Sir.
O. DO you know Prlcei A. him until
Monday night, when was up here before your Honor.
O. Have you any conversation with Mr. Loader In
relation to the matter i'll controversy herci A. have
! q. When was NJ A. had conversation with him
about days before the surrcbuttal closed III the
O. Are you counsel i'll that easel A. No. Sir
~, I i1r ,% ,S 3% a. and t have ~ swrosr
that was under Obligations not 10 tell.
caSion 10 be IN Mr. Leaders store that night
business in reference things hc fixing for
before S Tie suricGutal closed, / am confident.
Mr.. Logan-i oijc't TO tins witness iestiiyng TO any
Mr shell don'i undc stand that Mr.. was coun-
sci Mr. Loader any thing relating 10 the statement
Of Loader To hiii, or any tllns cse, III iact a., .
The Wncss-I don't wish 10 state "S thing III the way
| OF a conid,nt.a cOmInuic cation
| Judge Riicy-Gou snould not state II then.
ILe Mnness,I snail not state II unless your Honor
comlcls lie not my client, but ne may have adj
dressed me in the way Of m adviser
Nh Sncil-Ihe question II wrthcf IL was TACT thithc
| did then address You as iiis counsel. .
| The Wn,ss-iIe knew WAS lawyer, and he very pos
siby had the idea that was not at liberty 10 repeat any
s,a enent that ne mo make 70 me. ,.,
rs Mr. LOgaI-Did lie at that Time intimate that he
spoke cunidcnallyi A. He SAID hc dld not want
| to get mNtd up III the mater
MI Smell don't that tnat stands anything in the
relation OF client and counsel.
The WneAs-I TIM. lie had the idea that was a law
vtr and under obi gallons to tel what he told
told INN should ten judge Morris, and DID tell judge
Morris and Inat ali had 10 do with IT, 1 repeated
this .rsaOn 10 intimate illt lds OF niuc, but did
MOI give lis name to ans body bat Jud-e Morris.
Judge IICJ-I guess had better have the statement
Mr.. lo,lIi-l do how what tIc witness did sub
scqucnly aiecs ne cssii the sta'ement was made III
confluence
Tue W;ness-I took pains not 10 make the affair public
By Mr. Snc-GiNc the conversation between yourself
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