New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-30

about A. 1t was about Mr. Tltons proposed statement
O. Well, did you understand. then, that Mr. Mouitoh
endeavorng to suppress the statement 10 pre'e"
| the statement being madei A. I did.
O. You understood that Mr.. Mouon was laboring for
the purpose OF avoiding any publication Oh TINS seahd
| at that time, didn't youi A. did.
O. At that interview OF July 10th was 1t arranged IN
substance that meeting OF the Committee Tor 'hat
night should be postponed in form, put OIL A.
Not arranged, Mr. Beach-that does not express IT,
| Q. Well, was It suggestedi A. Yes, Sir.
O That the meeting which called for July 2oth OF
the Committee shou;,; be put of, to give Mr.. Mouon
more time to Mr. Tiiton If possibef "A 10 s'o
Mr.. Mouton and Gen. Butler more time.
O. Well, Mr. Moulton and Mr.. Butleri A. Yes, Sir
that was suggested.
O. Was not that understood 10 be the purpose oi 'nc
three partesi A. The purpose Of
O. At that meeting was not that understood 10 nc
purpose to be accomplished A. BY the posiponemeh'
OF the meeting Of the C0mmitteei
O. Yes A. Yes .
O Well was not tho suggestion made that YOU would
not be present at the meeting of the Committee on .ha'
evening and that il you not present the meeting
womb not 90 ont Was such suggestion madei A.
Yes, Sir.
@ Now was not that the understanding a. Yes,
Sir think that part of 1t was an understanding tnat
should not be present
O. And that therefore the meeting would he postponed
and Mr. Tilton and Mr. Butler were to A. AM Una.
dont cypress IT, Mr. Beach Il can tell you what occurred
exactly. think can
O. No, don't think you cant A. | think can
O. DO YOU pretend to give exactly what occurred al
these meetingsi A. Not at all these meetings.
O. Well at any of themi A. think can toll you eA
actly what occurred on this OCCASION
O. Exactly A. Well, II you put very iinl'eu ihean-
ing ON the word "exact," perhaps not; but can give
you substantially what occurred at this mcctine' anu
really what occurred .
@ That ia another thing Because want to know-t
You are undertaking to give the precise language eu at
these meetings. want to understand it, Are you pre-
tending to thatf A. No. Sir; when am repeating con-
yersations am not, rule protesting to give the pre-
cise words but the substance.
O. | supposed not. Was II not arranged anu uiuci
stood between Mr. Butler and Mr. Mouton ana yourself
AT this meeting on July 90 that should not be present
At the meeting OF the Investigating Committee called Tor
that evening, and 1t not expected that III cohSe
quence of that Of yourself that meeting wond
be POSTPONED and proceedings taken on the evening
Of Juy 20 A. cannot your question yes or no.
Mr.. Beach.
O. Well. A. I will tell you what occurred.
O. Well, will get it by somebody else, III you cannot
answer IT, Was it expected that Mr. Tlton would MAKE
his statement the Investigating Committee on inc
evening of July 2Oi A. That was expected yes SIT
O. Well you did appear that evening at the Com
mitteei A. did
O. And the meeting was hedi A. Yes, sir
O. And Mr.. Tlton made his statement a. Yes SIT
O. That, understand, was inc HISl n''''"h'"'
he refused to make a statement and where he ala moi
make a statement A. oh, no. that was MS long S'a'c
ment; that the sworn statement
O. July 20i a. Yes, Sir.
O. Well was mistaken; thought it was the former
one Now you a:terward saw Gen. Butler, you sayf a.
Yes, Sir
! STATEMENT DICTATED By GEN. BUTLER.
O. Where was that7 A. At the Fifth Avenue
Hotel
O. When was III A. Aug. o, 1874.
g. That is the interview spoken off A. Yes BIZ
q. Did you SEQ him upon any other OCCASION a. u.s.
Sir
O Whore was that A. I saw him the evening of
Aue. 10. at Mr. Moultons house, and saw him next
morning.
O. Where was that next morningi A. That was at my
room.
@. Your room-wherci A. In Montaguest
O. At your house-where you livedi A. was board
ing at the time
O In your room at your boarding place, thcnf A. Yes
O Who was present al that interview A. His private
secretary.
O. Any one elsoi A. think not Sir.
O. Are you quite certain about thatf A. am
O. Was Mr. Bcechcr in the housei A. No. Sir.
O. Had he been that day. A. NO, SIT Tic ho'oi was III
the house. to my knowledge
O. We're you and Mr. Butler then preparing caro- 10
be issued or spoken by Mr. Beechert A. No. Sir
@ We're you not preparing paper for Mr. Beecher
to use A. No, Sir
O. WHAT A. No. Sir.
O. No paper for Mr.. Beecher to usef A. No, Sir
O. Were you preparing any paper' A. NO, oir' VIII
state what occurred. II you want It,
O. Well when | do, will tell YOU We're you pre-
narng auy statement A. We'll, will say, Mr. Beach,
that in that Interview
O. Just answer my answer A. say that zoe wereh not
can state to you what occurred, precisely
O. Wait a moment. You seem to be somewhat disposed
IN no critical and am inclined indulge you. A. soc
you are.
O. You saw ne were not Was either you or Mr.. Butler
nrenaring a statement A. Mr.. Buler-General Butler
did go
O Can't YOU answer my question: A. No; Will
answer it by stating what occurred.
O. No. you won't. beg your pardon Was either you
or Mr. Butler preparing statement on that occasionf A.
Mr. Butler dictated his senographcr, or started TO-
and did to some extent, and quit on conversation DC
tween himself and me; we had conversation
O. Now. am not asking for the details of that inter
view ask YOU simply the question whether either party
dictated a statement, or prepared statement a.
You did not ask whether he dictated
n We'll prepared q statement, said You have forced
upon me matter which occurred, which did not call or
Now will you my question whether OF not ei'ner
Won or Mr. Butler upon that occasion prepared state
mentl A. say we did not
O. Did you prepare any part OF statement A. Mr
Butler Dictated
O. Did either of your prepare any part OF statement
A. Mr. Butler dictated to his stenographer, VINO tooh
down in shorthand -
O. Well Sir, don't want 1t to be supposed that can
ont what transpred at that interview, so as TO make
the subject of evidence for do not care to have 1t In
Judge Neson-In other words, you don't ask for the
conversation.
MIR. Beach-No, Sir; but this gentleman insists upon
stating II.
Mr. Eyarts-Ie asks whether either OF the parties pre-
pared statement and the witness answers that Gen