The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-16
went up for Francis Herman, ana In i've minutes
tps Assembly chamber was cleared.
THE PROCEEDINGS.


Z. Fenton, whose term expires on the Attn OF March
next, met In the Assembly chamber at quarter
past four p. M. to-day. The Hobbies were thronged
with citizens. Senator Jacobs nominated Senator
A. p. Laning as Chairman. which was agreed to.
Senator LANING thanked the caucus and stated
the object OF the meeting, saying that for the fist
time In six years man who was IN favor OF
constitutional ana representative governments
was to be elected.
On motion OF Mr.. WAEHNER. Messrs. Faulkner
and Schenck were appointed secretaries.
Mr.. HAMMOND moved that the caucus proceed
to the election OF q candidate for United States
senator ulua Uoce. He SAID he mad IN caucus Tor
Speaker made o similar motion, but 1t was OBJ
jected 10 as unusual, and bis motion was voted
down. This was. however, the course pursued at
tae last joint caucus for United States Senator.
II was the most simple end effective way.
SENATOR JACOBS AND TAMMANY.
Senator JACOBS tdcm.) moved TO amend by pro-
ceeding to ballot according to democratic usaQes
IN caucuses like this. He was surprised at the
proposition made. He would not have been sur
prised some weeks ago at q proposition to take
away from democrats the protection OF the ballot.
but he ola not believe that now any general
orders from society in New York would be az
tempted to be carried out here. He referred to
the action oil Governor Tilden in breaking down
the power OF a society which had done SO much to
the damage Of the democrauc party, The pres.
ence OF Ex-Governor seymour In this city had led
him to believe that he would sanction and uphold
democratic usage. He was in favor OF the ballot
over Vtvd U0ce. because 1t was right and proper,
and because We VIII get the untrammelled vote OF
the voters instead OF the dctatlOn Oh any political
society. IL would require no great stretch OF I'M.
agnation TO believe that Governor might use his
power TO secure the election OF q avorlte
influence Of. this sort the ballot alords pro-
tecuon. Again, great political organization.
This usurpation nas always been hateful to the
country democracy. stand by the ballot aud all
duty 70 Their representatives. and tney must,
therefore, do as their constituents would. As TO
the usage OF the party, he went back TO is43. and
read the record Of the party In these matters at
that Tune. ithstandlng there was no cand,-
date opposed to Silas wright, the leaders OF life
have ballot" In 1916, H0rati0 Sey mouy, although
a uiUd rOce vote was proposed. opposed 1t, and
Uiua voc zee vote was had, ou. then 'I the
democracy were In power IN the national govern.
ment, and IL was deemed advisable to depart rom
usage for certain reasons; but now tnere are
special reasons why a ballot should be taken.
Several weeks ago q democratic caucus was neid
IN New YORK city, at which none but New York
city democrats were allowed to be present. At
that caucus candidates were named, and among
them that Tor United States senator, Now, ne
wanted to break this chain winch gals even the
democratic representatives here from that city.
He wanted to break TINS dlctation by q po-
HIM in IL. i: he said II mis- was not
yield up the power wnich the peOple stand ready
to put in It's hands. He had been member OF
years seen the time when certain men could walk
In here and say they owned the Legislature sitting
mere. He never wanted TO see that Time again
while he was here. Now, lie wanted to say that
the man wnom he was here to support should not
tarnIsh his name II there IL a man who has the
least PATRIOTISM in his neart, he Will say to John
Kelly, IL he does own New YORK he does not own
tns legislature. He knew Mr.. Kelly, and as
man he respected him; but ne must know that as
representatives we must discharge our duties our
selves, anu not delegate them to any one else.
JOHNSON DEFENDS TAMMANY.
Mr.. JOHNSON (uem.) did no, agree with the
gentleman when he SAID no man with patriotism
could reject the ballot Tor uiUd rOce vote. He be-
no usage. The gentleman SAID 1t was without
precedent, aud yet In his record he found two
heved, prepared to vote Tor ms candidate.
and ne ala not believe he would rise IN MS place
and name man whom ne did not think ought 70
be elected. AS to the order referred to he had
read II, but thought IL was merely sugges-
ton. He also believed that II any mem
he has the Intelligence and courage to
resist H. As to the caucus alluded TO- why !t was
together and consult and learn VINO were the best
Representative men for them to support. Tnis was
done all over the state, III every county. and 1t
was perfectly natural Tor the caucus, OF consulta-
ton alluded to, TO agree upon tue one man VINO
had been named all over the State by the press
States senator. He SAID his constituency was Ell.
titled to know how he voted on this as well as all
other questions. The people have their attention
nxed upon US at this moment and want to know
what we are doing. Therefore he was IN favor Of
Utrd r0ce vote.
THE SPEAKER TAKES THE FLOOR
Mr.. MCGUIRE SAID he regretted that he iet It his
duty to say word on this question. 1t had been
sent abroad that this Legislature, especially the
Assembly. was such corrupt and venAI body OF
men that 1t cannot I've trusted with the ballot. 1t
WAS his duty. then, as presiding oficer OF this
q 10 hrxyh-
minded and incOrruptible BODY or men never be.
lore assembled here. lhe people, by an unprace.
before We are mere week, we are charged with
being corrupt What is the reason lor tnlss lie
be ee no ~ by an rom as
(Mr. Jacobs.) He was prepared to vote
uiud coce or Oy ballot. He was prepared to vote
either way Tor that enlightened man OF STERLING
integrity, Francis Herman. (Applause.) lie was
ready to vote just as TINS caucus determined. he
looked upon the baOt as the safeguard OF our
liberties. Inc moment you remove the secrecy
IRON tae ballot that moment you endanger our IN
situations ana our freedom II is SAID our consit.
uents want to know now we vote. VINO asks the
question: Has any man In Chemung asked now
am gong to voter II SO l know it not; but am
asked the question In the hotels aud elsewhere by
others tnan ny my constituents, and 1t IS also
known that junta in New York also wants to
Illustrate. The men In Cnemung decide that must
vote iOr a certain man, and they INFORM me OF 1t;
say that unless so vote my political lie IS at an
end. Now are these my constituents who make
this dictatorai demandY Not a. all. 1t Is only
four or five men who assume to speak Tor my con-
stituens. As to precedents ne claimed that they
could be maze aud unmade at any time. 1t mas
gone broadcast through the State shat the in
judciOus trends OF MIR. Herman have said that this
Legislature, or the lower branch OF 1t. was venal
and corrupt They have sent this charge over the
State broadcast But such q charge would not
deter him from doing his duty. and
yet can we. with this charge standing
against u.s. go into second ballot? He
thought not. He had hoped that some ar.
rangement would be made which would produce
harmony, but THIS has not been done. He would
aud. on the authority OF Mr.. Francis Herman him.
self, that no man more emphatlcaily condemned
this charge than he. He, therefore, believed the
most efectual way 10 prove ialse this foul and
most unnatural charge was to go into open
vote. He would DE willing TO make the ballot
precedent, anu he hoped q preamble would be
attached declaring that such Shall be the mode to
govern democratic caucuses herealter-so far as
this caucus can make sucn precedent. This,
perhal would serve to denounce the charge or
corruption.
THE OPEN VOTE.
Mr.. HAMMOND disclalmed any knowledge of any
charge oil corruption. lie had made his notion
for DDd UOce vote because 1t was, in his opinion,
the most convenient mode oil proceeding.