National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1875-02-03
FORTY.THIRD CONGRESS.
(ContfnTsd from First PGqe.)

disorganiIed and one Is held together only by the
liable time in the interest Of the minority.
Mr.. N1BLACK, of Ind, here made o peint OF
order that Mr.. BUTLER was addressing the gal
lerfes, and that the rules required he should ad-
Mr.. BUTLER turned around and took posi-
ton at the Clerks desk, amid the cheers and ap-
plause Of the galleries.
THE SPEAKER REBUKED THE GALLERIES,
and said any demonstration was a gross violation
Of the privileges Of the House.
Mr.. cox, Of N. Y, said he supposed that was
all done for dramatic effect.
Mr.. BUTLER standing at the Clerks desk)
resumed his speech, and said that all the time
that could be obtained was needed, and hllibus-
tering should not be permitted to go on in this
exigency. Was It possible that the Republicans
could not trust the majority Of the House7
Mr.. TREMAIN, of N. Y, inquired lift was not
necessary to legislate now on all Southern mat
Mr.. BUTLER replied that It was, and that It
was necessary to pass some law which would allow
the President to preserve the RsaSe IN Shs Soasa
legislation. He prayed the honest and true men
Of the House to stand together and release the
Wbe6 could not By ~ I'D II EsS
to have any delay by the opposition Of men who
show that they are still determined to delay Iegis
lation.
Mr.. COX. of N. Y, said he had been rebuked
by the SPEAKER on the ground that he had made
motion for dramatic effect.
ANOTHER DRAMATIC EFFECT
had just been attempted by the gentleman from
Massachusetts, and whether It was a farce or q
tragedy he desired to say that that gentle man
had no political or moral right to call In question
the action Of the members OF this House. and to
say that revolutionary measure was necessary
Coxl was guilty Of intending dramatic effect,
what was the gentleman from Massachusetts
guilty Of when he went to the Clerks desk and
addressed the lazZaroni in the gallery
The SPEAKER reminded the gentleman that
under the rules any member could speak either
from his seat or from the Clerks desk
Mr.. COX said he did not deny the right in the
case, but only spoke Of the dramatic effect, and
said it was not for the gentleman from Massachu-
sets to say that the Democrats desired to OBJ
struct business. These rules were made orizi-
nally for the purpose Of protecting the minority,
and TO
SAVE THE MONEY OF THE COUNTRY;
and yet, for the sake Of a temporary advantage,
guards against the Quackeries Of legislation it
comes up from time to time. In all the struggles
that have been made in the Committee on Rules
opposed ali changes, and he was not, therefore,
amenable to any censure for achange. He would
not complain now, however, for the day Of Demo
I addressing Mr. BLAINE would not be here to
that Jubilee If you had not been elected In the
spring. Laughter Put that down to dramatic
effect. Renewed laughter.l
Mr.. SCOFIELD, of Pa, denied that the rules
under which dilatory motions were allowed were
originally for the benefit OF the minor
THE VETO POWER,
but there was nowhere in that instrument clause
which gave one NTH OF the members Of this House
the power to block legislation. 1t was practically
giving the veto power to one fifth Of the mem
beTs.
Mr.. LAMAR, of Miss, said the rule which It
was now proposed to repeal was adopted origi-
nally by a clear majority, in cool moments, and
was to give the minority the right to protect
themselves. 1t has had not only the sanction Of
tW6iVe
has held to be good by the anttslave power. 1t
was proper instrument putinto the hands Of the
upon legislation, and he hoped that when the
Democrats came into power they would reinstate
this time .honored rule. [Applause on the Demo-
cratic side.l Here was
THE CIVIL RIGHTS BILL,
which he did not believe majority on the other
side Of the House really desired should pass. But
The leaders were a body Of resolute and indonIta-
BILE men, who were determined to drive 1t through.
Suppose the Democrats had not resorted to the
course they did, would not the bill have been
passed with their connivanee? He eontended
that in pursuing the course they did, that the
Democracy had but obeyed the will Of the peo-
pie, as expressed at the last election. The gen.
Ileman from Massachusetts Mr.. BUTLERl has
charged that this rule originated with the slave
power. Aye, so it did, but 1t shows that when
they had the unQuestioned power in this country
they voluntarily gave the minority the right TO
protect itself. The slave power had then risen to
point when 1t allowed the minority to be re-
THE SLAVE POWER
was in the ascendency its actions were never re-
Duked by the gentleman from Massachusetts and
SPEAKER BLAINE (caIIing Mr. TYxER. of
Ind, to the chair said he did not think Mr..
LAMAR correctly stated the history Of the rule or
the proceedings under it. The use this rule for
never took place until 1854; and
while he did not wish to intiict sting upon any
One he desired to say that the origin Of llibuster
ing was on the Kansas and Nebraska bill, and
resulted in the adoption Of what is known In his
tory as parliamentary fraud. tApplause by
The Republicans.l In the Committee OF the
W hole the enactiDg clause Of the bill had been
stricken out, and when IL came to the House the
bill was considered in spite Of that, and it was
Mr.. COX said that in 1854 that was considered
, legitimate means Of legislation. the rules
were subsequently amended,
Mr.. BLAINE said he would not have referred
to this matter bat for the remarks Of Mr.. LAMAR.
He then proceeded to argue against the proposi-
lion submitted by General BUTLER. Its practical
minority any measure without debate, explana-
lion or amendment, even by q majority OF one.
He would not consent to report rule for the ma
Ority which he was not willing to live under In
In the early days of legislation the
previous question was used adEisedly and with
discretion, but latterly 1t had come to be used
with too much haste and with too little consider
ltion. He was also opposed to the amendment
proposed by Mr.. CESSNA, to permit the Judiciary
Committee to report at any time-for that was its
u
was 10 make that rule general, but to meet what
vas believed to be an exigency. He did not be-
eye there existed any such exigency as required
hat rule If the idea was to get legislation for
he South, the select committees on Alabama and
affairs already had auth GRITTY to re-
bolt 49, any time.
MIR. RANDALL. Of Pa, said he had opposed
his new rule for two principal reasons: First, be-
cause he believed It would let in all manner Of
schemes Of plumber; and second, because It would
let in legislation to o, further Cypress the
Getting the whole country, and so long as this
crusade against them lasted they could not COM
nand money to become the customers OF the man
lfaeturers Of the North. He had all along sug-
Eested that instead Of going on with this legisls
ion, which was prompted by passion, his side OF
he House was ready to take up the appropriation
bills and 20 on with the regular business. When,
IN the name Of Heaven, is this crusade against
he South to enG2 They surrendered as brave
men, and II Gen. Sherman's policy had been car
ried out we would now have had people there
prosperous and happy.
Mr.. WILLIAMS, of Wis, opposed Gen. BUT
LERs proposition to prevent one days discussion.
While en- bills affecting the South courage was
wise consideration, and therefore nothing should
MI HAWLEY, of Conn.,, said that he had been
here for hours to show the Jolly Of the rule that
had recently prevailed, and also to show how q
minority may hold out. He was now
willing to vote for the rule as recommended by
MI. GARFIELD then demanded the previous
question the first question to be on an amend
ment offered by Mr.. HALE, requiring two
thirds vote instead OF three-fourth vote to sec
ond a demand for the previous question on the
day bill was introduced.
The demand for the previous question was Sec
The 0uC stjon was then taken upon the amend
ment offered by Mr.. KAssoN, modified so as to
include that Of Mr.. WILSON, of Ind, relating to
the Court Of Claims. and it was rejected.
The amendment offered by Mr.. HALE, OF Me-,
was then adopted by q yea-and-aay Vote-yeas,
Mr.. WILSON, of Ind, asked unanimous con-
cent to insert ''nor bills referring claims to the
Court OF Claims"
Mr. NEGLEY, Of Pa, objected, and said he
had constituents here voting for years for their
rights.
cept Mr.. BUTLER, Of Mass, voted in the negative
yeas, III; nays, IS.
Mr. RANDALL then rose and said that upon
full consideration he felt II his duty to insist upon
being relieved from further service upon the
Committee on Rules, and he was excused.
Mr.. COX also asked to be excused.
The Chair had read from the RECORD the re-
marks made by Mr.. Cox in relation TO the action
of the Committee on Rules, and the possibility Of
the rule being reported on Tuesday, and said the
gentleman was the only one who had referred 70
the meeting OF the committee. He said that 70
prevent any Interpretation he would state tnat
the Committee on Rules had meeting on Fri
as IL had passed the House. The two gentlemen
now asking that their resignation be accepted
were present, and although they did not agree TO
the rule, parted pleasantly, agreeing to disagree
Mr. RANDALL said Rreat.deal had occurred
since the meeting on FRIDAY that was not