The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-27

branch or the testimony; Mrs woodruff was talk
Ing generally with some one who came In, ! don't
know who " was came into the ONCE and was
speaking OF the scandal that had been mooted
about concerning Mrs. Tllton and Mr.. Beecher;
theodore Tlton came into the once at the time
ana said, NThis Is not true;, nis face was flushed
up 20 the roots Of his hair az he said, Vckie you
know this Is not trLe my wife Is as pure as snow
and no such relations nave ever existed between
Mr.. Beecher and Elizabeth; this Is not true.n
MI Snearman SAID that conversation was prior
10 May >.
the Witness-If SAID it was at the other con.
versation was wrong; this latter conversation
brought out
q was it before the card appearedY A. Yes.
sir; before the card was publisned; IL was IN the
tu umn OF 1872; the card came out IN 1871: IL was
rot certain which month, cut ] know II oc-
Cured.
q How long we're the proofs read TO you before
you went TO YOUR nouser A. About six weeks or
month before; the scandal was published IN the
ial Of 1872; these conversations were common
thing
The last answer was, on motion OF Mr.. Beach,
stricken OUT.
q. At the time Mrs. woodruff said to you. DAM
els, have something want TO show you.n 1iton
was the only one present, you and neY a. he Was
present; she did not sno v me toe proofs TIL after
Tlton went out: nothing was said except what
SAID 10 her IN regard TO the puDllshng OF Inc pri
.. When she SAID she had something to show
you, how much Of the proofs did she read 10 you
cant say nov mscn sre reaa rs 1Ins and and
Mr.. Beecher; think SO. but then, Wouid not
swear that.
porated IN these proofs shown you A. No, SIT;
have now no recollection as to what she read or
said upon the subject.
Mr.. Beacs-lhat's all, madame.
Mr.. Shearman, redirect:-
q. mrs. Palmer was Mrs. woodruff herself
Splrituallsi?
Objection was made by Mr.. Beach TO the ques-
ton.
Q. DO you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ A.
Oh, certainly, do believe.
Mr.. Beaca-You believe that Christ is God A.
No, sir; | believe in the divinity of Christ; | be-
lieve that our lord Christ Is the ony begotten son
Of the living God; ! believe IN God anu IN e sne
Trinity; do not believe that the Father, the Son
and the Holy Gnost are equal
q. How do you separate the DeltyY A. The
same as would separate your son from you; do
not believe chat they are one and the same per-
son; 4 believe that God is the Father, that the
Holy Ghost is the Mother ana that Christ Is the
suffeings were confined to this earth; lie innerits
ais divinity from God the Father; don't suppose
the son Is the same in extent of sovereignty as the
Father in heaven; His sovereignty is superior on
this earth; lie is sovereign IN the next world,
though not equal 10 God the Father: believe
there are many planets and He may rule over
some OF these; | believe that God did not abro-
gate His laws when He sent Christ on this planet.
! theory as to the birth Of the Saviour which as
blasphenious aud unit for publication; SO mucn
4 so that the Court interposed,
Judge Nelson saying Il guess that viii do.n
! Mr. Beach-That will do, Mrs. Palmer.
BENJAMIN 4. TRACY TAKES THE STAND.
| The third senior counsel Tor the defence, Mr..
/ Evarts. In answer to the questions he said:-
nave been practising at the Bar since May, 1851;
have resided In BROOKLYN Tor nine years; prac.
tlscd law in New York for year before came TO
this city l was United States District Attorney
for TINS district from october, 1866 TILL February,
1873; know all the parties TO this suit; nave
years; knew hun nrst personally when he
became editor OF the Union: | ceased to know
him much alter that till he lett the Unfon-till
, 1872; then We met again; with Mr.. Beecher have
been acquainted, as member OF his churcn.
sincs 1907 knew MIN slightly tlIl alter the gno
have known MIN more intimately than before:
knew Mr.. Mou ton first IN November, 1872, and
have since known him quite intimately.
O. How long have you known the otner members
OF the 1rm oil Woodrun h Robinson? A. / knew
Jeremiah p. Robinson wnen was IN the Legsla-
TUE IN 1862; renewed the acquaintance IN
/ Brooklyn III 1865, and nave known nim from that
Woodrun l nave been acquainted since 1871:
nave known nm ever since; the acqualu lance was
personal IN the beginning.
O. In the month OF November or December, 1872,
did you come into any situation or confer with Mr..
Moulton, Mr.. liton or with either one OF tnems A.
l aid, sir win all OF them.
@. How soon AFTER the publication OF the Wood
hun scandal did IL come to your knOwledges A. II
that publication was made on The 2stn OF October
in the Unton saw II Oh the 18th; first conversed
with Mr.. M0uton ana Mr. woodruff in casual
conversation on che street few days after the
publication was made; t was in 'front.' OF M ofce,
on Mont gue street; the conversation was intro
duced oy me; referred " the fact That l had
denial on the part OF Muuton OF the woodruff
scandal; the conversation on that subject was
general.
was? A. Tne SUI Ject OF IL was to MouJon's rea-
ton to the scandal; the conversation produced an
appointment; som, considerable time after that
Woodruff came 10 me one day anu asked me II
would consent TO De consulted.
At this point Mr.. Beach interrupted the witness,
and, addressing the Judge, said that q dlnlculty
arose here with him. Tomorrow he had to be aD-
sent pimself from the trial, as IL was imperative
upon him 10 ap, ear in a reference case which
senator Herman was coming down from Utica 10
argue. lie had lor personal reasons been re-
quested TO examine the witness, but would not be
aOle TO do 50, owing to this appointment.
MIR. Evarts said ne was willing 10 accommodate
the couuse, and II the latter was satisfied would
agree to an adjournment until Wednesday next.
Mr.. Beach would noe agree TO this adjournment,
though the examination had been committed 20
him. lie would, however, ask His Honor that the
case be adjourned till Mr.. Fullerton could be pres
cnt tomorrow morning. IL wanted but fiIteen
minutes OF Jour, ana the Court adjourned Till
eleven O'Clock this forenoon,