The Portland daily press., 1875-04-15

he would be convinced that / was not
5 hf ens% %by but don't ya real write friend tb s9a
/ declined. He urged that it would be a useful
thing if he could make real representation of
my feelings to Tton. Finally [ said, "Why
can't you make memorandum" and he took
a pen and commenced making memorandum.
He would write and then stop and ask me,
"What do you say about so and sop l know
nothing about the words at the head of the
letter. SIN trust 20 f. d. Moulton." l was
walking up and down and speaking. 1 did not
expect him to follow what said. L know he
couldn't, [ am q hard man for reporters to
follow, and 1 only expected that he should
catch The figure here and there. 1 was anxious
he should get my feelings correctly 1 relied
on him as man of discretion, who would
make fair report of my feelings, and if he
gave anything incorrect, l. hadn't said it. l
was ignorant he commenced my dear Frank
or that he wrote in the form of letter. / was
ignorant he commenced II humble myself be-
fore Theodore Titon as before my God" What
L said was that had humbled myself before
God. and was not ashamed to humble myself
before Tilton. I thought 1 had done wrong
and been an injurer to Tilton. L don't recol,ect
that specially called to mind the injury done
to me by Tilton. If the charge was correct, no
injury was done. If he thought he had proofs
before him, be was correct in making it. In
the opening of the conversation with Moulton
/ was nnder the impression L had done wrong,
and this was confirmed as he went on 1T one
period of the day of January LIST had made
up my mind that Tilton had evidence from his
wife, which justified him in making the charge.
This was about half-past 3. mean improper
solicitations. l mean evidence on his wife's
written statement l did not think she had
been coerced by violence. l had NO doubt that
it had been procured from her when weak and
sick, and by persistent inquiry, and / had no
doubt sne had told fasehood l supposed
Tilton had reason to think l had been the
wronger of bis. family.
@. When you supposed she had told false
hood and Tilton was acting in good faith, ask
you again why you did not hasten to vindicate
yourself
A. supposed was doing it by this whole
interview with MoultoD.
Fullerton here read the "contrition letter.
and asked where was the explanation to Tilton
there?
A. That is not my document.
@. You had a conversation in which you
expressed the sentiments in that letter?
A. This letter expresses part of my senti-
ments, but did not se.ect the expressions.
@. Now, tell us what you said not in that
letter?
A. denied any wrong doing Intentionally
to Tilton's family.
@. Did you dictate single point exp!ana-
tory of yourself?
A. dictated nothing
q. Did you not not know he was maxim a
memorandum?
A. Yes, for his own use.
@. With Tilton?
A. Yes.
@. And why didn't you send some vindica-
ton by the same channel?
A. How did know that it was in that chan
mel.
O.. You didn'tsen any special message to
vindicate yourself?
A. did not.
g Then you did not consider that import
ant?
have M rooo,1oot;o,, of - T ronordad
improper solicitations as a most serious charge.
did not single it out or send any message
whatever to Tilton Moulton was himself
living message by which both parties were to
be reconcied. 1 did not say that ''he would
have been better man in my place." but said
something that conveyed it. 1 said. but not in
the epiigramme form, Il beg. he will recollect
other hearts that will ache" Something in
that neighborhood, sir. 81 do not plead for
myself even wish were dead" does not ex.
press any sentiment expressed. l spoke of
others living and suffering. I said something
in the neighborhood of dying before Others
would suffer. ''Poor child lying with her
folded hands" reminds me of something l said,
but not as there. "Her forgiveness have;
pray God to put it in the heart of her husband
to forgive me,'' is not correct. 1 never asked
her forgiveness. That is Moulton's document.
l did not read it or have it read to me. didn't
care about it. l signed it and gave him the
paper in trust that he might represent to Til
him in trust. Iiregarded it as his property.
@. And you gave him his property in
trust?
A. didn't regard it as property. I gave it
as a memorandum to bring back salient points
of our conversation.
@. To be used for your benefit?
A. For both,
Q. For yours?
A. For both, and therefore for mine.
@. For your benefit, and you didn't care
what was in it?
A. 1 didn't say that
Fullertou-You did.
A. Then spoke less heedfuy than now.
@. You didn't sign that paper then to au-
thenticate it?
A. No sir. This is my hand writing.
@. Now explain to the jury L ask YOU to
tell why did you not take any steps during that
interview through mutual friend' to correct
Tilton's misapprehenson. Mention one word
of message you sent.
Mr. Fullerton-That is an answer to my
question.
Witness said when Moulton asked him his
opinion of Moulton's first statement, which
was submitted to him and read, he made no
objection to it,
Mr.. Fullerton then read the statement drawn
up by Moulton for the church committee, say
ing he had for four years acted as peace
maker for Beecher and Tilton, and they both
had been honorably settled by the parties and
were only revived bv outside parties. If nee
essary he will state the truth. He suggests the
parties be heard and then if necessary he will
go before the committee himself and tell the
whole truth. He thinks Beecher should frank
ly admit he committed an offence against Til
tsp, for which he had written an apology.
Partly quoted in the Bacon letter.
@. When that was read to you how long
had the Bacon letter been published?
r ay'f cou thnt1 of
A paper was read to me, but can't affirm all
that was read. Parts of it recall. good
deal recall. My best judgment is that part
of it was read to me. Possibly the whole. L
can't say how soon this was after the Bacon let
ter. ] never read that letter. l was told by
Cevt land, Shearman and some gentlemen that
part of my letter of Jan. Is! was quoted IN 1t.
| didn't learn from them the portion quoted,
do not remember that Moulton read TO me that
portion of the statement 81 hold that Beecher
should frankly adult he had committed an Of
fence against Theodore Tilton's family"
@. When did you first hear Of that letter OF
Jan. 1st-'Contrtion letter."
A. 1t never was in my hands.
@. Oh, well we won't dispute about words?
A. You cornered me SO often L was afraid
(Laughter.)
@. 1t never was in your hands you say?
A. No sir But my hands were on it when
signed it.
@. Well after it went from under your hands
Witness said he heard of it from Tracy, who
told him there was in existence paper dam
aging to him, but did not give him the contents.
Then he heard of it from Moulton; then he
heard it was to appear in card by Tilton. He
heard the substance of it from Kinsela June
ID, 1873 At least lie stated the drift OF It,
Clafin did not give him information of ii.
Cannot recall any information given him about
it except by Tracy, Clafin and DR.. E. Beecher.
@. You omitted him before?
A. Just now 1 saw him and remembered it.
The next was from John Russell Young of the
Herald, in July, 1874. did not learn its con-
tents then. can't recall Tracy's language. L
don't know that he repeated it in SO many
words. 1 don't recall that he told me it pur-
ported to be letter.
@ If up to that time, 1878, you did not
know the contents of that letter, how can you
account for your letter to rMoulton, June
1st 1873 Here COUNSEL Iead letter to Moulton
containing the expression "My letter to Tllton
through you" How do you account for calling
it a letter?
A. don't recall the designation Tracy
gave the paper. You might call it letter or
paper. l knew there was paper. L took the
first title to the paper that came to my mind.
@. You say to-day it is not your letter. How
did you call it your letter then?
A. 1t was SO spoken of by Tracy.
O. thought you said he did not give you
the form of the paper, whether it was in the
form of letter?
A. cannot say that Tracy used the words
that it was in the form of letter.