New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-01
MR.. MOULTON'S VERSION OF TIE CONVERSE
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MR. MOULTON'S VERSION OF TIE CONVERSE
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Q. think you may repeat that conversation,
If you please Sir. A. Tho whole Of the conversational
@. Yes, you may give tho whole of 1t. A. Well, as l
said when went UP stairs Mr. Moulton apoloSzod for
sending for me; said he didn't know | would call on
a blackmailer.
O. Well, is that the way he apolOglzedf A. Well, that
Is as the words az 1 can remember. ,-
O. Well did he apologize to you in any other way than
that A. Well he spoke OF the why he did not
come to SEQ me.
O. What did he say which you cOnsrlle into an apology
for sending for youl A. WELL he said lac had just re-
turned from East and that he had not had his breakfast
and that lie esteemed it favor that came around there
or he would have come and seen me.
O. And then SAID that he did not know as you would
call upon o blackmailcrl A. Yes Sir it was said in
laughing way.
O. Well, go on. A. Then whom got upstairs he said
he wanted tell my brother not sign the Plymouth
Church Report that Mr. Beecher had confessed his adu
terry him and lie had tho proofs of it, and that he was
going to drive him out of Plymouth Church and out Of
Brooklyn.
@. Well, anything morci A. Yos Sir, and then ho
said he had always been friend OF Mr. Beccher, but
when Mr. Beochcr called him blackmsier he going
to take care OF himself-drfend himself.
O. Anything olsci A. Yes, Sir; shall go and give
all4
q. Certainly; / want all that conversation. A. And
then he saidrepeaed several times-thdt my brother
must not sign that report; and during this connection
sOmetimc-I forget exactly where it came ln-iha he
wanted to DO crosse xamncd make further state
men to the Committee and told him that supposed
the Committees reportha the Committee had received
all the evidence and that the report made; that
didn't know about it, but prcsum so; then he said that
my brother must not sign that if he did, he should be
compelled to make another statement and then went on
and referred to another party. as have stated.
O. Give it ALL SIR A. lie said if he did he would have
to mention the OF lady that would ruin lady
who friend OF mine, or would break my heart;
and asked him who he meant, aud no said he would not
give any names and told him knew nothing about
the Plymouth Church investigation; that had had
nothing do with 1t, and would not have; that had
been urged before it, but would not come before
it, but any communication that he had for my brother
would take it to him, but would not use any influence
for him to sign that report, or not sign it,
O. Well is that ALI A. All, / think, for the moment,
Sir.
O. Was your brother present at that conversation
A. No. Sir.
O. Let me read version OF that conversation, and
how it corresponds with your recollection
Mr. Tracy-What page do you read 'front.'
Mr. Beach-when find 1t will tell you, Mr. Tracy.
Mr. TIacy-It begins at the bottom of page 27S
Mr. Bcach-Yes, have my eye upon that; i i some
thing else that want read, Sir from page $50, the
second column, near the bottom:
1 said to Mr. Storrs that understood that was not
10 be Examined by the Committee; that had come
from Lowell for the purpose OF that crosscxamnatiOn.
and that did not want his brother to sign that report
the Committee for If his brother did sign that report
without giving me an opportunity to be eross-examined.
he could possibly know the TRUTH and II that report
was signed and it was against me, as l UNI
dcrstood it should be. T should make a
Understood my counsel advised it, would perhaps
the threshold of his family and came To SEQ him per
linz, him, nat INF do
such thing, and said TO him. 81 want you, Mr. Charles
Stors, put only upon the ground of my being
sign that report until have had opportunity for
xaninion In order that the facts which have
stated in print may DO fully known" That's what said.
went Charles storls friend Sir. have given
1t as nearly rs rcc0llect it,
O. Now, was that substantially said in that converse
toni A. think not, Sir.
O. WHAT A. think not, Sir.
@ What, not said in addition to what you have gveni
A. Not in that way
O. Not in that way; ask you If that substantially
saidl A. think not Sir.
O. It was not ehi Didn't he tell You that he wanted to
be crossexaminedl A. There something said but
not oneenth part OF what he has down There very
little said on that point.
O. Didn't he tell you that he wanted to bo crossexam-
ined lrther3 A. lie did to make another statement.
@. WHAT A. Or to make another statement; don't
know which.
O. But did not he tell you that he wanted to be cross
examinedl A. Or to make "a statement.
O. No you said that ho wanted to be xanincd.
OF he should have to make statement A. Or make
another statement; said didn't know which; one
the other.
O. Well it substantially that A. Yes, Sir
O. And II he not further examined, didn't he
say that he would have to make statement A. lie
didn't say whether "if he further xamined
he said-wel he might in that connections he said lie
would have to make another statement.
n Eyac A lie to IN Their Al.
ment.
O. That ia, IL he not permitted to go before the
Committee on further crOssexamnation, to make
further statement before the Committee he would I've
compelled TO make statement A Well, he virtually
said that but he did not say it to that length.
@. Well. that l. just what want virtually" and
didn't say in substance that under the advice OF
sci, that statement would the Threshold Of your
famyi A. No, he did not use that word
O. No. he did not that word; but not that the
idea A. Well, it referred to party yes, Sir but he did
not say anything about
Q. That he would have TO make statement in regard
to party that would break your hearth A. Yes, Sir.
O. Didn't he say that he did not want to do any such
thingl A. Well, | don't call to mind that.
Q. Will you swear that he did not say sol A No.
would not swear that he did not.
O. What, in addition to what You have now stated, did
he sayi a. Well, don't call to mind this moment.
MR.. MOULTONS REFUSAL TO BURN THE
PAPERS.
O. No. | think not. Now, Sir, in what con-
versaton was 1t that Mr.. Mouon told you that he would
not or had not burned the apology when was thatf A.
That fifteen days after the. Tripartte Agree
ncnt," as we call 1t.