New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-01-01
FORCING A BALANCE on THE BOOKS.


O. Have you been an agent of the Pacific
Malt A. Yes. was an agent in NewYOrk during 1867
up to July l. 1879. have bocp employed by the Com
pany ~ "
Q Il yOa know anything in regard 90 the procuring
of II subsidy for tho Company in the year 1877 A. |
know nothing mole than general rumOr My business
rot that character at all. have no personal
knowledge In regard to the expenditure OF any money
O. Did Jou any money that purpose that year
1921 A. No. know nothing In reference 20 1872
@ d. You know anything in regard to this exchange
Of checksl A. Except have no personal
knowledge.
@ Your name was gvcn to the Committee as wit
ness who might knew something IN regard TO it n
That was patent to everybody; heard from an EN-
pho, That there had boon an exchange OF checks.
Q Did nOB yoI know this tbat there Wa, large
amount SsCOO1 sZOO0oO floating a1out and thore
was a M liter OF common conversation among different
employ Is; could not name VINO thoy were; IL was
talked Of IN connection with the adminstr iIl0h Whcn
they WEE contrasting with previous administrations;
they waved to MAKE ont their accounts spmehoT'
q. Was there not talk about chargnT - 60 yOIl A.
There was an !utlnatlOn OF thai and whether they
meant 70 think ~ camo from Mr.. Phelps, VINO
was In thoir emD'"I could not carry sucn loan.
- WASH not asccrtained afterward that u iouDi Its
way into au additional charge to tie Two steamers,
Toxic aud PekEGi A. think not, SIR. Ihe sIeaa ~
We're not CONTACTED Tor theO we nade cohlItos
for four ships. The first three ships were under thG
first ADMINISTRATION then tho four und'r 5tocKwel anu
the Toxic and Peking came later. know they were
not Mt tue time Of the report. ,
q Do you know where tnat sum uitlindteN IouHu q
70 'lng place A. nave 10 idea; suppose with the
S15)LOO somewhere lLlC <hter.l -, -. .,
O. Tnis cannot ne another sun A dOh'S KNOW; you
Grr dealing IN larLo sums here.
O. Was tnis that which. according 90 common uh-
detstandjng was floating about, and finally was DIS
posed OF s0lnewhCrei A. l don't know; 1t was some
such sum they getting ready for report; theEe
had always been great labor IN getting up report,
O. The better hand no showed, the better Tor the
stock A. Yes, sir; they dld succeed ia RettnB '"o
stocks up "a very high figure. , ,.
O. And suppose II the true Facts had Deeh Known
they light not nave gone 80 nigh. Di you kuOWWhere
that money hualy was lOdgcdi 4. No, Str; DO not.
O. How much was IL that Mr.. Phelps ~anteh 10
charge 20 yOul A. thiuk It 100000. Whether he
said 10 iestiugy not l don't know. In speaking O
the forthcoming report he SAID 10 was necessary 70
charge things no and get them into shape lie srr'eu
the Company for a number OF years IN Cnlua IL vas
generally understood lnaL ne was aoOuS W h0' N' "
O Was nc understood to DO acting ia the Conpany's
intcres1 A. L understood that MI. StOch"eu uhd Put
nm In uo,sessou OF the books aud in connection WIN
the clerks purpose OF preparing an ahhu"' i0
port went of TO EIrOpe Just after that ,
Q. You declined ~ have tnst charged 70 your ~
Yes, Sir; | declned.i , -,, ,oz,,
He entered in NOYemDeII l6Il' auu "Vu0 ""V ~ INV
O. We're not the Toxic and Picking contracted for with
Mi Roach IA ,IulY, 1872 A. Ny Impression was thas
this boating business prior 10 the ouune VI 'Ho'o
o. II il was Just before Mr. StOckwel went out, 1t
must have been time subsequent % that' lheso
ara the facts tesuhed to here A. L THINK you are
to the ships now WISH Jhat cOLrec'eu d. "
dates.
Inst before the Committee for the usual noon re-
cess Mr.. Avery returned anu stated 10 them that te
firm OF H. W. Gray & Avery did not begin business until
October 1872 and therefore their books would snow
nothing or Nj. S-ockwePs operations IN Pacinc Mall
PRIOR to tnat time. TIC Committee did NOT therefore
GeslrO any figures from their Accountants