New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-01-20
TIE PACIFIC MAIL IYIQUITY.

NOT NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. ADOPTED BY THE
PACIFIC NAH. DIRECTORS DENYING ALL KNowL-
EDGE OF THE Use OF MONEY.
WASHINGTON, Jan. 19.-The Committee of
WAYS and Means resumed the Investigation OF the Pa
cifc Mail Steamship CompanYs subsidy to-day.
Charles A. Wetmore. correspondent Of the American
Press papers In California, said he not here In he
sprlng Of 1871 subsidy granted and had
personal knowledge 10 how the subsidy obtained
Tie Chairman, Mr.. Dawes asked the witness what he
meant by saying In bis dispatches that Irwin had
! marked that the caumnatOrs would suffer and mem
beers OF tho Ways and Means Committee would feel the
| crash.
The witness replied that be simply called attention to
,-"ts-to circumstautsl evidence. Tie statement OF
Irwin was -..s@. assistant: no. 49,. W.
stance, had an interview with Irwin.
The witness asked how he to say In his
resPondence that leading members OF the Committee,
particularly Dawes and Beck slow in the pursuit
OF newsi The witness replied that he based his state
ments on circumstances apparent 10 everybody. He
found that evidence had brought before the Com
mittee but that tho Committee had refused to subpoena
the witnesses mentioning the nam0 OF WniineY, broth
erlnlaw OF ex Senator Cole.
In answer TO question the witness said he could not
ascertain whether the Committee cndeavOring to
find whitney. Beng further pressed the witness said
when In New-York he heard variety Of opinions as TO
the effect Of the discovery Of money in the hands Of
Representative Schumacher. and thst this would pro
duce effect on Mr. Beck ia the Committee.
The witness frequently asked FOR hut did not give
the name OF single individual from whom he had re
ceiye his Information.
Mr.. Burchard Of the Committee asked Do you kaow
OF any specific thing done omitted 10 be done by
either " the gentlemen, Messrs Dawes and Beckf A
Ouly from circunlstantal evidence.
Mr.. Dawes OF the Committee-Did anybody tell you
any particular thing these gentlemen did or omitted TO
IN A Tc4p tf nop lla
Mr.. Dawes asked the witness whether he knew "
anything whatever justify the remark The witness
replied that he had relied statements and runors
and could not say that he knew anything
q Is 1t not that you have not the slightest foun-
datiOn for statements A. referred To facts and
had beer Informed that the Committee bad not sub
peuaed Mr.. whitney.
O Who Informed youi 4. 7 cannot recollect.
Q. Did you inquire Of any member ~ the Committee
or Of any officer connected with H. whether Mr. whitney
had been summonedi The witness replied that he did
not make such inquiry The dispatch OF witness dated
Jan. read. in which it said that the leading
members NJ the Committee particularly Messrs. Dawcs
and Beck and others who particularly severe IN
denouuciu rwr. and calling Tor invest2ation bad
become smgulariT silent or slow Ia the pursuit OF
Mr. Beck asked witness: Did YOU ever near me nso
word IN Remuneration or Irwui Ifso Stte n. witness
replied that obtained impression from what took
place before ~" Committee and House and addresses
and speeches and the action against Irwin.
BY Mr. Beck-You named mel A. Perhaps your vote
Indicated Il. II impression from the evidence
MI Beck-rhere Is not a word OF truth in il. A.
think am wrong. but nv dispatches generally may
modify the Language, a. errors occur Ia telegrapalng
After further interrO-ati0u 20 which the witness id
not give satisfactory replies Mr.. Beck asked; have l.
N any shape form done anything 10 let NJ on ochu
mascrf A Was 20 informed IL Ne"-fOrA several
Mr. Beck-Ulve I failed ascertain any important
fact hchumakeri A. only know ne has DOT Oren
called before the bar Of tne Hol:e. -,..-..,-, min
to appear before u.t A. do not know ..-.,-.
MI Beck-Tavc the Committee fhlei 10 AK questions
they ought ~ have askedl A. don't know that they
hay No vor No, know the f,ct thar Schumacher
ia stili a wtInessi A. told IN NewIOrk al the
Atlantic ami Pacific Telegraph ottce, think by one OF
the clerks thai he Lad seen nchunaAer IN town. &c nav
inc been reported IS gone a"aF
Mr. Beck-Whst IL The significance OF that statement
A. simply an inference tbat 'he COu"l'tee AAu no'
found ont whore he was.
Nj Beck further interrOgated the witness asking him
whether he did know that the Committee while in
NV York made IS ful! aud cluse IN e1amlnatlOn OF
witnesses IA the time allowed and whether ne could
Omitted 10 10 sny thing they ought 70 nave zone VIZ
ness IN me c0ltse Ot .ne S ,,J Sa -st,ssd
examine NJ rin on tue PGRt 81 STOCK oPera ran
a maze OF the evidence on the subject.
MIR Beck-What reason was given why would not
a., niue Mr. schumacher A. Because ne Is Demo-
Nj Becl-And you thought somebody told You had
~t ~ tie MONEYS A. was told that check had been
raced 70 You The statement came from party whose
ns Wr Rerk"f want tnc mans name A. 1 think
De NJ B@ck-Gve me the mans name. II Is lie A. 1t
was not stated 10 me as fact dd noS SKATE IL DC
i'S' r Beck again asked FOR the mans name The wit
mesa anpeaed the Committee 10 ex'l-e Inn ior not
n tanning the name as lac had made the charge
Mr. Dawes remarked 70 witness No moL4Der OF the
Committee will interfere to relieve yod from men'ionuE
Mr.. yblach Of the Commttee-we are in earnest.
and mean bueiIess. .,,
az" The WItness-rhe information came from friend Of
mile | SIMPLY ask indulgence. II is Impossible
without seeing my friend To give you us Aams 40
I ved
Mr Beck said, charged as being The guilty
WHO gave the information gave it as hearssy ..,,
~ - @ oa the ION mIttee should follow up
matter 1Hoss said ne considered th, que as ga
cred him, AS Information Impar'od ny c"e"' " Oh
Mr. E.olack remarked: No more sacred than Mr.
p.cxs character or tue character 81 tue committee.
Ne will see whether We have not some power over 'ne
gentlemen in the gallery. ,.-. - ...,,o, .5-,r,.
Witness (fter hesitatioDl-I decline 10 answer GIVING
NJ RecS said 70 witness The WHO told you ut
tered a base aud malicious e ana MS naine ousn' w
be gwen to the Committee. VIII you ten
Witness-H You give me untu tO-iIotro"'
Mr. Dawes-We will not give you I'LL to'norrow
M Reg again urged witness 10 give the name OF MS
,pfoTnanf but witness repeated that ne haI puosueu
M po.itiye statement, aud said ne had puOshSu taI
no OF FAINT solely by Mr. Beck as i2r
as il appeared. la the publication Vi 'hs nc o0ui"
ME- BsckCI say 70 you now. can have no private
intercourse with me Whatever You say mst 10 - ne
Committee at the bar OF the House liners 10 no use
IN saying you can satisfy noe. - a.. .,,os,,o,
MI Dawes-Do you decline 70 answer the question
A DO at present; want further time -, -.
AMr Beck-I want the witness brought TO the bar OF
the House immediately. $500,
MIR Dawes asked witness whether Irwin said that ne
ir Dawesl had taken from he evidence uihgle ""ru
Of what he testified TO before the Committee ....
The witness answered that he did not Know Wnetner
thn evidence 70 not but 10 was something
written out by IRWIN A., -. -,
Mr. Dages asked witness whether he did not Know
that A abatement written ny irwin outside OF the
sxidence and appended to the evidence without tue
knnUie1ge OF the Committee. The witness ala not
recolec Irwin told Inn that or that part OF IL
| had been taken out by the Committee bus 0y Mr..
/ Dawes
Mr. Dawes told the witness TO withdraw.
MIR Beck-Let hln now be Urought before the bar OF
| the House. 49,. -,