The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-10

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q. Yes. 4. DON'T remember precisely; what
ever the letter was on New Years morning reau
70 ~ him; think tie essence o! It was the sans
as 1t Is now, hut the phraseoogy may have oeen d
little more Indlscreet.
q. Did he advocate striking out anythng2 A.
No, sir; he gave me no advice whatever; l didn't
ask MIN Tor any ADVICE; think | read 1t TO him a.
matter OF fact.
MR. FORD AS COUNSEL.
l didn't understand any relations that Mr.. Ford
had with any lazy except his wife.
Q. No improper relations? A. WHAT Is your
Q. am not asking about anything improper;
did II refer 10 him as trustee OF one OF the ladies'
referred TO IN tnat letter to Mr Bowen
Mr Beach, don't understand that any specific
person or lady was named IN tlat letter.
Mr.. Eyarts-l don't say that any lady was re-
Mr. TllIon-I don't understand your question
yer, Mr.. Evarts.
q. Did you know that Mr.. Ford stood in the
relation oil trustee to OF the ladies' referred TO
in your letter TO Mr.. Bowenf A. No, SIR. did not
know 1t; never heard OF any such thing.
@. At any rate, Nj. Ford did not advise you to
leave out that part A. don't remember mat
Mr.. Ford gave me any advice on the subject; there
was no disparagement Of my wife IN the original
letter; mad ADVISED with Mr.. Robinson about the
letter. VINO SAID % make II more calm, out never
thought Tor q moment OF Introducing my vile INTO
tnaJ letter.
9. Now, sir, IN your direct examination did you
say this. referring 10 this letter. 'tne preparation
OF II was uider a sense OF duy had written q
letter to Mr. Bowen reciting all the iacts; that
advice Of Mr. Jeremiah T. Robinson, Mr. MOllton
and Mr.. Gordon L. Ford, acting on their advice
and upon me advice OF me OF iest OF those gentle
This letter al ground OF difference between M.
Beecher ana myself ?" A. Yes, sir, said some.
tnlng ike that
THE BOWEN ARBITRATION.
q. Now, sir. upon giving that letter to Mr.. Moul-
ton did you express wish or desire to have your
affairs with Mr.. Bowen speedily settled or closeds
A. No, Sir: NOT at that time did not; told him
s s n e,s be- rave nm ne note on Jaauary ~
asked MI. Moulton 10 be one OF the three arbtra-
tors to close the matter; did not think mad any
tgh n n 4 QnhsaQnpntlV
three out OF Il list that Mr. Bowen sent me.
q. NOW. sir, did you place IN Mr. Moulton's hands
at THAT time, anything but this letter 10 Bowen Of
the 1st OF january
Mr.. Beach-lhat Improperly assumes that he
placed Doth papers IN ais hands.
Mr.. Evarts-Not necessarily. / think have ex-
ahmed hiui ABOUT those. A. II you wish to know
the papers which put into MI. Mouton's hands
at that time VIII tell you what tney were; three
papers-one little note authorizing Mr.. MoutOn
to settle my affairs for me; the other Was copy OF
my contract with the Independent and the third
was my contract with the Union.
q. You gave him that Bowen letter A. Well,
dld not put 1t into his hands to send 1t TO Bowen
at that time; he declined TO take 1t to Bowen; he
did DOT want 10 take iJ to Bowen; my first propo-
sition about mat paper was to publish it; mat
letter Mr.. Moulton did not wish to be published
then wanted him TO deliver 1t TO MIN in person,
and he said he would take charge OF 1t; / handed
1t TO MIN, and ne read 1t To Bowen about the Sth
or 1Otn or January; l think the first report that
came from MIR. Bowen was che payment OF $4,000
ton iV vii NOT be accurate about the date: Mr.
Bowen wanted settlement, not only OF pecunlary
matters. but settlement OF other matters; We
bOtp wan ed an arbitration, but Mr.. MOulton pro-
hbted 1t; the actual aroltration was held on the
"a Of April 1872; have an ndistincr recollection
hodse had interviews with Mr. Bowen on The
2sth, 2'th and 2Sth OF December, but not about
and the EMULSION Of Beecner rom his sc pulpil:
nave sa!d that informed Mrs. Tilton OF these
matters, out did not consider them as business.
ALL THE WORLD WOULD KNOW.
q. And 10 was IN consequence o. this INFO Ma.
tice, as have understood on your direct exam-
na-.on. that she lelt q sOlciude to have some IN
tercourse between you and Mr.. Beecher 7 A. Well,
SIR. the answer to that question Is this
q. don't want any conversation, but ask you
whether YOU nave not said, in your direct exams
nation. that IN consequence OF this threatened
controversy between Mr.. Bowen and Mr.. Beecher
your wife felt anxiety which led to your interview
with Mr. BeecnerY A. Mrs. Tllton thought that II
Mr.. Bowen and myself drove Mr.. Beecher out OF his
pulpit all the world would Know the reason why,
ana he would be convicted.
z. That 1t was III consequence or your wife'5
Knowing OF the threatened trouble between MIR.
that you should nave an interview with Mr..
Beecher A. Yes. sir: II was lear and anxiety.
O. Now you know what o. and you came to the
TRANSACTIONS OF the tin OF February where three
letters were written and communicated TO the
tnat, as understand. there was no trouole OF any
KIND or concern IN reference to the publicity unit
the Woodruff card OF May %, 1871; Is hat so ?
A. That was the nrst threat that was published
MRS. Woodruff published card May % 1871,
threatening TO expose the story.
q. Well, we have got that in evidence; don't re
peat It: that was the first, wasn't 1t? A. That was
tue lrst | knew anything OF; Mr.. Moulton. IN the
interval between February and May %, went 10
Florida; don't remember exactly the interval,
but | should thiuk he was gone about SIX weeks
he went on account OF his health; my imp essiou
Is THAI he was SICK about think the culmina tlon
OF his sickness was about the middle OF January,
ana then IL was very SLOW recovery; he was not
shut out from all this when he was on the way TO
the South: AIR. Moulton carried on his business
from his house ike "a general rom his tent; he
never was smut out from any activity.
HOW THE STORY GOT oUr
Q. Now, sir, as understand the matter, all that
ha1 passed between you and Mr.. Mouton and
Mr.. Beecner regarding any relations with your
vile during the period were confidential and for
the purpose OF being Kept secret and assisting IN
Keeping secret whatever these relations were
A. Yes, sr that was Mr.. Moulton's laoors In the
matter.
O. And the conference ana action toward that
theyY A. Not at all, SIR
Q. Now. sir, did you ever suspect Mr. Beecher OF
having communicated to Mrs. Woodruff the basis
OF her tlreat OF May 22S A. NO, SIR nor 10 any
other person, Sir.
q. Never suspected him OF communicating? A.
Q. Wen. that suppose may be inferred from
your views OF this case. Did you ever suspect Mr..
Moulton oil communicating TO Mrs. Woodruff any
OF these matters A. No. sir; answered tnat
question before you asked it; Mr. Moulton Is above
Mr.. Eyarts-Weli, you know what the SCRIPTURES
say OF tue man that answers question before 1t is
asked.
O. You say you did nota A. did not SIR
q. Wen, understand you then tnat when you
first went 10 see Mrs. woodruff at the appearance
then gave you substantially ali the matters tina,
she published in the iall oil 1872? A. Yes, sir; all
the horrld incidents and more besides, think
uldn't connect them with various persons as sac
dld there.
Q. Wei, gathered from your examination that
there was nothing that she knew in the lall o
1872, or prolessed to know, what sue didn't know
or proiessed 10 Know in May, 1872? A. Well, fol
instance, sac told me IN May, 1871, that she had
carried the edition OF her stelnway Hall speech
into Mr. Beecher's study and there given 1t &c
him. that Is a statement Of what she told me ir
the criminal relations winch existed.
q. Yes. and the pistol scene and all that A.
Yes, sir not as IL happened, but as II did not hap
pen.
q. Well as she stated 1t. She told it to you
then A. she told nc
q Now no ma ter. oon't care what sne told
you. only want TO know whether am right 10
understanding your direct examinations A. Well
what is your understanding OF 1t
O. This mat all tDose matters that related tC
her article OF 1872 10 Mr.. Beecher's relations tC
your vile and toward and 10 any operations OF
movements OF yourself or Mr. Moulton with Mr.
Beecner IN the same connection, all tnas were
contained IN her article OF 1872 that nave bearing
/ and relation $40 entlOl I'D