The Rutland daily globe. [volume] (Rutland, Vt.) 1873-1877, 1875-04-05

that Interview anything about being 'on
the brink of q moral Niagara ?" A. | did
not.
@. No figure like that, or that could be
COMPOUNDED with that 2 A. | think not
don't remember any it was business in
terview, turning on the return of that pa
per there was mere pendant TO the in
terview about Titon's condition. and that
was the whole thing embraced in that con-
struction.
@. Did you in connection with the state
ment say anything about moral Niagara
Did you say anything about your having
no power to save yourself, and call on him
to save you A. No, sir.
g. No expression of that kind A. No,
nothing that had that Specification in the
closing conversation, there was something
said by him of his power to serve both of
us, and he thought he would be amenable
| to good sense and reason in reply to some
suggestions as that, might have said
should be glad of his services.
EXPLICIT DENIAL OF MoULToN's TESTIMONY.
q. Did you, in this interview with Moul-
ton, say to him that you considered your
sexual intercourse with Mrs. Titon as a
natural expression of your love for her, as
the words were used ? A. Nothing of the
kind that language is simply impossible
| to me.
@. Did you say you felt justified in it on
account of the love you held for ter, and
which you said she held for you A. No,
sir no such thing the topic didn't come
into conversation.
| @. Did you, at close of that conversation
or at any other part of it, say that your life
was ended A. No, sir.
q Now Mr. Rppnhpr did Won eov on
this occasion to Mr.. Moulton, or anything
like it, that through your love for her, If
you had fallen, you had fallen A. No,
| sir.
q. That the sexual expression of love
was just as natural, in your opinion Do
you remember that as the language which
you did use ? A. Did say that
@. Did you say that D.? A. No, sir.
q. Did you then either first, or second
time, say if you had fallen at all you had
fallen in that way through love, but not
through lust ? A. No, sir
@. Mr. Beecher, was anything of this
kind said to you by Mr.. Moulton
Mr. Beecher--I don't see how you could have
erred as you have; don't understand 1t you
have had criminal connection with Mrs. Triton,
and you go down and you get this paper; 1
don't see how you could perform such pets
A. What is your question
Q. Whether he said that to you, sir A.
No, sir no, sir Moulton is not a fool, he
is very sagacous man. Laughter.)
Mr. Beach-One moment.
Witness-I didn't mean that | meant it
as form of negative.
Mr. Fulerton-He has no right to make
any such observation.
Mr. Evarts-Did Mr.. Moulton use either
branch of this observation that have read
you-"You have had criminal connection
with Mrs. Tilton ?" A. No, sir.
BEEcnER OFFERS TO APOLOGIZE.
O. During your interview with Moulton
on the night of January /, how were you
and Moullon disposed in that apartment,
sitting, or standing, or walking? A. sat
part of the time part of the time | walk
cd he part of the time sat and part of tie
he stood
O. Give me the interview A. Yes, sir;
though | cannot give the exact language /;
Moutun made some allusion to TiltOn, and
his ascribed feeling on account of the great
trouble that came on him by the trcachery
of Bowen and his misconduct, and said it
was not in human nature for man to lose
at once his name, his reputation and his
livelihood; that gave rise to conversation
in regard to my whole relation from the
time when the letter was brought to me by
Bowen told him had been accessory
in measure, and as far as IN me lay, |
thought it was my duty to retrace my steps
to apologize, or do anything in my power
to retrieve he then went on to say that
Mr.. Bowen bad dismissed Titon upon false
accusations, or something to that effect,
and that they were lies, and he could prove
it he asked me what Bowen told kne in
the interview of the Goth as it was then
quite fresh, l gave the general purport of
il very fully then Moulton said, using
strong language, explosives, that Bowen
had been treacherOus that Bowen was oc-
cupied with Tilton in the making of that
letter, and promised to back it up with
charges, and he spoke with emphasis on
that matter think lie then asked me
what Bowen had charged to me about Til
tons offence ! said Bowen had repre-
scented to me that Tiltons opinions became
SO loose that they were injuring the hide
dependent, and he had found it necessary
to disposess him Of his editorial position
and put him in subordinate position that
up to that time he had never heard a wills
per against Tilton, but when he was re-
duced to a subordinate position he was
waited on. by ever SO many. with charges
of shocking character then told him
had told Bowen it was a singular coinci-
| dence as | had heard similar stories told
him there were rumors that seemed to
gather force and effect there was consid-
cradle conversation about it Moulton said
he believed Tilton to be entirely changed
and true to his marital relations, and insis-
ted upon it the conversation in this re-
spect occupied nearly an hour, in going
over the relations of Mr.. Tilton's charater
| md hic ctapIipr I told a..
that wasn't the matter that hurt me most :;
| had done wrong to him, Notwithstanding
all these stories if there was anything in
the world / abhorred, it was scandal
had kept myself clear from them, and
| there were few persons who had dared ap-
| proach me ON the subject was ashamed
| and mortified about them, and it was all
| the worse because it was toward friend
had known and loved and whose house had
been to me home, who had dropped ev-
erything and gone to Washington to serve
| my son that when he was IN adversely
had taken sides against him but when he
was in trouble found the first thing had
done was to add to the weight that was
depressing him.
MISUNDERSTANDING CONCERNING MRS.
TIIToN.
| did not understand how Mrs. Tilton
could call me to consider separation with
out letting me know beforehand that there
was such a discrepancy in her HOUSEHOLD
but it seemed to me if she had been led to
transfer her affections from her husband to
me, was blameworthy that she was
woman so quiet and simple and her out
ward demeanor so different from anything
of this kind, that could not believe it pos
sible that the allegation was not untrue
that had got her affections as her hus-
band had alleged that it seemed to me
she must be broken down in her moral ma
ture, and that such retraction was terri
BILE thing, and | had been the cause of it,
though had never surmised it.
HOW TIE LETTER OF CoNTRITIoN CAME TO
BE WRITTEN.
| founI that Mr. Mnulton moa Al fr;onJ