The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-06-12
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fcIe that committee. Oliver Johnson admitted
1874, IN the ONCE or rhe Christian linton. he said
that "he knew MI beecher had been awful
sinner with WOmen;' and can name gentle
man who If called would have gone on the stand
and sworn that Oliver Johnson told aim mat Mr..
Beecher had confessed 10 him (Johnsonl that he
(Beecncr) had been IAN awful sinner with
women.n Henry NJ. Cleveland stated 10 me on
the l7tn OF March, 1874 tnat oliver Johnson told
must be protected.u And Cleveland sat on the
committee wReR Johnson testified before it.
RKEcHEE DECLINES TO SEE DIR. sroRRs.
The morning Of December 80, 1872, called az
Moulton's, IN Remsen street. Ill,on and Beecher
were IN the back room on the second door; Moul-
ton was not with them. ON this occasion said
70 Mr.. Beeeher that wished he would go ana see
Dr. storrs. sald, "Mr Beeeher. 30 TO Dr. storrs
ana conhde IN nm. You VIII end linn the tfuest
or friends and the best OF councillors Mr. ILL.,
ton said upon this, 'Mr, Beecher, think It would
Mr.. Beeeher replied that he would not see
storIs Mr. Elton then asked me to 30 around
70 MS mousse and ask Mrs. Tilt0n 10 come there.
dld so. Mrs. TIIton accompanied me TO Mr.
Moulton's, and left MIR. and Mrs. Titon and Mr.
Beecner together. [ understood the conference
was with the view 10 prepare card for the pub
nc, a wv, ~, tne scandal was then two months
Old; oat no seton was taken. saw little Of tho
Mr.. Carpenter here detailed a meeting which
ONCE, between himself Bowen and an excita6Is
gentleman rom Milwaukee, named II. d. Hoit0n.
During this meeting Mr.. Holton said that were
he 4 member or Plymouth church
BOWEN WOULD RErRACr
his charges or prove them or DO expelled Bowen
~
ouLn church should rise in the next Friday nights
prayer meeting and demand an investigation mr..
could attend TO bis OWL AFFAIRS. Upon this told
Holton That Canlu had said 60 me that Bowen had
made FSSso Written TetracOn Of the charges
thatp' said ne. repeated what Cianin
mad said. Bowen said, 81 do not wish you 10
Holton told Or. Burlington that Bowen said ne
made no "retracti0n." Edward Beecher learned
Of the interview. Isuppose he told his brother
Henry. met Beeeher at Antoinette Sterling's
pered TO me, There is gong TO be
AN AWFUL RIPPING UP BEFORE LoNG.n
On sunday, May %. Cleveland came for me with
Bseener's an, horse and buggy lie went 20 my house
where was TO take tea, Introduces himself so
me, and said Mr.. Beecher had sent him 20 bring
me to Brooklyn TO confront Mr.. Bowen with the
charge OF having violated the tripartlte covenant.
on our way to Brooklyn Mr.. Cleveland
with both Mr.. and Mrs. Beecher, ana they
We're going 10 publish the covenant ana smash
Bowen. MIR. Cleveland also showed on the witness
stand very imperfect memory concerning this
business. fortunately distinguished literary
him at the time, corroborates my account Of this
matter in all It's essential particulars. Mr..
S s Mr. 81 s ad e M
wished me 30 so with him tMoultonl ana Mr.
Clanin TO Nj. Bowen's house The interview took
place there between MeSsrs, Bowen, Claim
Moulton and myself Reluctantly, but because
thought the interests OF truth demanded IL, re-
peated to Mr.. Bowen, In the presence OF Mr.. Claim
and Mr.. Mouton. certain statements Mr.. Bowen
had mace 10 me concerning Nj. Beecner. the
conversation Waxed warm.
BOWEN READY 70 MEET BgECHER.
told Mr.. Bowen that Mr.. 1ilton afirmed that
ne (BoWenl told him and Oliver johnson on the
goth Of December, 1870, that Mr.. Beecner made to
him (BOwenl confession OF aduterie5, and re-
minded Mr. Bowen that he had also SAID TO me
knees. ] said that Hilton ana Moulton asserted
that when Mr.. Beecher heard this statement ne
denied That he had eyar Messed TO Bowen. /
said Now Mr.. Bowen there is q direct lie be-
tween You and Mr. Bsccher, and as / am here I'm
the Interests OF truth only would like to have
this matter settled at tails iuncturo Mr.. Claim
said, 81 think we q better have Mr. Beeeher here.
] will go and get him. Bowen with perfect com.
posture, said ne was ready 10 meet MIR. Beecher.
Moulton started up aud said, "Mr. Claim, VIII
so and get Mr. Beecner.r Mr.. Mouiron was gone
twenty minutes ana came BACK alone. Upon Mr..
Moulton' return alone Claim said he thought it
very important that Bowen and Beecher should
have an interview Immediately. Claim said he
would see Mr.. Bcecher the nrst thing on Monday
morning anu arrange private interview, The fol-
lowing Thursday lpncGed with Mr. Ciadin al his
store on Worth Street lie told me that he went
30 see Mr.. Beecher on Monday and that BECKER
said there wasn't force enough ia Brooklyn %
Bowen.
Speaking or the publication OF
TIE TRiPARfIrE TREATY,
Mr. Carpenter says that the afternoon Of the day
before Il appeared IN the newspapers ne called at
Mr. cleveland, who excltedly said 10 him, "Mr.
Carpenter, look out Tor Tomorrow mornings
Since the war; / sSt down WIN MN. Two or
three times he got up aud arranged his coat, con-
Gealng the POCKET rom the gaze OF any intruder.
At length, apparently unable to withhold the
revelation untu the next day, ne arose, went 10
the coat. took a roll OF manuscripts out OF tie
pocket brought IL 10 me, unfolded IL and offered
10 read H. ] said s'Mr. Cleveland, Il am so see
1t IN print tomorrow 1 do not care TO hear lt
now.r Cleveland replied, con the whole think
you are right folded ap the manuscripts and
put IL away. The next morning, according 10
Mr. Cleveiand's prediction, the papers published
WlReson testified on his oath that no one
knew OF the proposed publication or the tr-
NJ. Ford, and that 10 was prepared the
day before It's publication, between four and i've
IN the afternoon II think quote correctly nom
his testimony Now, what can be thought OF
such statement In view Of the facts nave Just
given you Mr. BeecaeT published card me lol-
hsned "wltnout consultation with him. In adj
dtion 70 my statement that Mr.. Beeeher sent for
Cleveland. told me that the covenant was 10 nc
published, the literary lady 10 whom 4 have re-
ferred as Mr.. Cleyeiand's visitor told me within
few weeks that Mr. Cleveland ana Mr.. Beecher
were IN consultation about the publication, before
IL occurred, TO her certain knowledge, and that
amer the publication OF Mr.. Beecher's card the
following week, exoneratng Mr. IilIOn aud say
ing tue covenant was puolished without consuta-
tion win Mr. Beecner, the lady wrote 10 Ar.
Cleveland her visit having ermInated-inclosing
Mr. Beecner's caro-. aud saying :-"What does THIS
was consulted and knew OF the impending publ
cation.r This lady recently sailed Tor Europe
aud was In great agitation (netnR In delicate
healtnl lest sue should be called 10 the witness
stand.
Mr.. carpenter mere 0lh5eetS MT. IleVelduuS
testimony and throws IL into a very unfayorabie
light lie then relates the occurrences during an
interview lie had with Mr.. Beecher on the even
ing Of sunday, June /, 1s53:-
That was the evening before
THE FAMOUS "AFGHANn INTERVIEW
or June (the ami not having been provedl with
Mrs. Moulton. / went 10 Plymouth church, &C
companied BY my vile aud lady friend. After
the services 1 spoke with Mr.. Beecher.
we sat down together. lie said, "Theo.
dore IL greatly excited by the publication OF
the covenant and the newspaper comments there
upon. ne has been up 90 CURTIS. Anna DlckiG.
son - there. They've tnHaned INN. anu he's go
ing 30 publish my letter. 1 think his exact
expression was my letter or humiliation
SAID, ~ suppose ne does" Mr.. Bcecner replied,
lyon know what the consequences VIII be-lny
destruction and fhe0dOre's, TOO. lie can never
rise on my rutns' he then said ne was going
down to MoultOn's. and asked me 10 wax there
with him. As we left tile church, with q spark OF
cheer.uiness Mr.. Beecner said, "Weil, Bowen ~
dead cock IN the Pat, isn't herr lie then went on
to say that n Theodore maze the threatened pub
hcatl0n Bowen's charges against him tBcecherl
would be believed Dy the public aud Bowen would
he vIndieated.