New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-13

Sir.
O. At their hOusei A. At their house
O. At Mr.. Moulton's house. think yon have stated
about that interview A. have, Sir; but the question
took me over the same ground again.
THE ALLEGED CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN
MRS. MOULTON AND MRS. TILTON.
@. Yes, Mr. Beechcr, | call your attention
now to some statements Of MouOn in regard Ia re-
ports which she made you concerning interviews she
had had with Mrs Tilton Did Mrs. MouOn report tOyOu
any conversations she had had with Mrs Triton in these
words, OF Of is and effect that Mrs. Ton had
said that she felt very sorry for Mrs OuOn, even more
sympathy for her than for herself, beearse She Mrs.
.Ieulton had lost faith il Mr.. BeechcTbecausc, she,
Ms. MOu.tOn, was unable any longer TO attend the
church; and that she. Mrs Tiiton, begged her Mrs
Moulson 70 20 back to the church and believe in Mr.
Beecher; and Mrs. Moulton said Elizabeth how can
you ask to back 10 the church, how can you ask
Ine to take the communion from his hands knowing what
DO Of his lie I" And sho said. want You 10 believe
ia him, he il good man it was not his fault, he If not
responsible for The crime am the that is % blame
/ invited it," And Mrs Moulton replied TO Mrs Tlon,
think that might hear NJ. Beecher preach and per
haps derive SOM benefit from his sermons bat can
never 20 back TO the church with the same faith had
IA him years ago" Did Mrs M0ulton report 10 you any
such conversation interview, as having occurred he
tween her and Mrs Tiltonl A. No. Sir she never re-
ii was possible for her to have looked in the face and
said the half of ie
O. Did she report to yen any such conversation rs this
As having occurred between herself and 1r Ton about
the time il is said that Mr. TiltOn Appeared down at the
church; believe that was 1875 it not Mr.. Shear
mani
The wness-Fliday night in Ortobcr, was it not'
Q. Well, you remember tie scenci \. Yes, SIR in
1873.
Q. Did Mrs. MOuon report to You such converse
ton as this ~ having occurred between her and Mrs
Tilton:
Icaed to see Elizabeth, and sai, "If you called
before the church. That are sJng 10 dJ 10 save MI
dsny everythins" said Wi You ailoS yoar husband
to 80 down with the tiuthi" She aid. think should
think for the sake Of Mr. Hcechog the sake OF The in
uence The world Tor my own position, for Iny Chi
drcn, think IL is ny duty 10 deny IT,
A Pure fiction, Sir; not a word of truth in it-not
word Of truth
O. And did you. on any such report IN any way say
this to ms MOuton
Poor child she is trying TO repair the wrong she has
done in confessns in confessing her sin But II Is 100
late.
a. No Sir; did not.
O. Now Sir did any thing Of This kind asa betwcenyou
and Mrs Moulton; did you in any CONVEX axiom with Mrs
Noulton Use these words, or to tins effect that
II Wa very cruel at Elizabeth should have confessed
at al it v'ry unjust TO nm; ne c0ud no iulltt-
stand il; didn't k-Dw why she Should nave done IT,
a Ae
siT mortlis after She had confessed 10 her husband
wa. even greater mystery to hlH-@Up er lg MN 20
unpleasant greetings and meetings win Mr. i-1ioAi tt
h. ,ud nor uDlerstqni WHY she allowed LIN ~ Visit
hor house without having told HIM that sac had con
fessed to her husband.
A. No sr; in connection with confession, no such con
versatiOn.
O. Did you in any conversation with her in reference
TO any urgency invitation your part that she should
come 60 your church. any other form ormanner say
that you felt that you had e9ented or your sin and been
forgiven aud that yOu better fitted now than ever
before in your whole lie to do great good do You
member anything OF that kinds A. No, Sir, not from
me TO her; nor from me TO anybody else
O. Did size ever say this 70 you, anything 10 this
eilect
Idont ace how YOU can stand in yonr pu2 an SPEAK
implicated ~ IL 20 dccPy yourself
A. Mrs Moult0n was lady, and she never talked
about adultery my presence under any circumstances
nor made alluson to such crime or such foul SINS
o Was there anything Of The kind said By Ler respect
Ing YOURSELF A. Never
Q. And dt you, in reply to any such obs rYaiOn or Z"
any observation made say:
Having suffered what have, having passed through
the cxper that have, lceI that an better tt.cd
than over before 10 prcachf
A have said to somebody whether Il was 10 her or
not that my great troubles and trials felt had deepened
my nature and brought into such sympathy with sur
ferng men that felt could preach better than could
before and seemed TO that God had led me through
dark way for that very purpose; but it was not with
reference to the topic the things that your question
suggested.
O. Was 1t IN reference 20 any charge or imputaton or
any fact of adultery that you made any such
A. TO no such thing.
O Now Sir did this conversation ever occur or any
thing Of this nature between yourself ana MIS- MOulton
read now from Mrs. mouon's testimony:
once repeated TO Mr.. Beecher conversation that
had had with Mrs Tton when she felt that she could no
Ion ger remain with Mr. Tton; that ne was continually
referring this sin which she had committed that ne
would not LET die out; that no would not give her an
opportuny-and that she felt that she could not i've
wi him any that she was gong home 10 I'VE wltn
her mother Nj Beecher said Tell Elizabeth Tor me- that
for NV sake she must continue ia live with Theodore TO
he 10 him good wife, 10 make Ms home happy anu as at
tractiYe as possible. know il il hard, know she has
much endure but she must do II FOR my sake, Tor her
own and for the children. / have family; abe har
nothing 10 hope for with and the only way IN which
sLe can ever see by living with Theodore, and being
10 him true and good vile.
A. False, Sir! false
O. Now, Sir did anything Of this kind occur, and Il so,
what was il; Mrs M0ulJ0n says:
When repeated 10 him my conversation with Mrs
Tlton when abe said il not MI Beechers :ault II
was hers be said In her fault 10 - my fat am
woman, and want you always to love her ana respect
her.
A. That was what said in substance TO her respecting
the alienation OF her affection.
O. In the conversation you had with herr A. In the
conversations that had with her; so long AZ Thought
that the mischief had wrought by my influence in
transferring her love from her husband TO me, always
said that my age and experience should have led me 10
foresee and prevent any such trouble
O. Now Mr. Beecher did you have q conversation Win
Mrs Moulton or In which she took any part sometime III
tae nrAt Aat " the month Of iy. AsIA wv .sss sul