The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-07-03

three jurors rom DOING or saving anything that
could possibly lead 70 an ldea OF their
Not one OF the jurors there present committed
himself-lndeed the only noticeable feature OF the
conference occurred al It's conclusion, when Mr..
Sherman elasped JuTyman FIiteT by the hand
ana said. S0tte Uoce, glitter. you and 10 the
luLure VIII be eternal frends.n
SAMUEL FLATE.
reporter OF the HERALD met Samuel Flate,
and a conversation was Immediately entered INTO
between them concerning the status OF the jury
during tue seven days consultation. Mr.. Flate
said that he could not see why man should re-
ceive verdict WHO had been guilty OF immoral
conduct with the vie OF another man. He (Flate)
had slept on the hard SIDE OF plank for seven
long nights, aud that was no lnconsiderable pun
lshment. He said the jury had, 1t was true,
resolved upon keeping the vote from the
puolic; but they had taken any oatn In the
matter one way or the other; IL was simply mutual
understanding between the twelve jurors. he
would say, however, that they mad not been at
tempted TO be briOed either directly or indirectly
on one sioe or the other out right was right, and
ne determined rom the first 10 do his DUTY. he
never liked t0at fellow Murray, never look much
houce OIL MIN one way or the other, The Jurors
were treated very Wen from the outstart as far as
board was concerned. 1t was not true that they
mad mattresses for all hands, There were only
Two mattresses allowed the twelve men,
ana ne could only say for himself tnat he had
but four hours sleep any night since ne went out
on the jury. He said he would rather be earning
81 a day at his trade by a long sighE. He
Jerseyman, hailed from state where justice was
administered with stern hand, and he could nor,
Tor the lie OF nim see why No should go against
his honest conviction.
would not like to say what was or what am |;
but viii say this, that came from State where
justice is administered IN pure and unalloyed
state.
Q. Is It true that Thyer was Bescher man'
A. Will not answer that question; you will find
out by and by IL is not for me 10 say one way or
the other.
Q. Well, what was the vote, Mr. Flatef A. Well
the vote was Mixed can tell you that, SIR. The
vote was TO 8, TO T. TO and 10 IL. The w
IL was gag, q leeler, as Il were.
Q. when was II that the vote was to OF A.
That was on Saturday night, aud then on SUNDAY
II was to s. ! DON'T want TO speak about the
matter, however ana you Will excuse me Jeffrey
Taylor ana Flate were the Tilton men.
This ended the interview with Mr.. Fate, who
Lett on crosstoWn car for his long deserted home
and nreSide.
EDWARD wHELAN
was found at his residence, No. 1888 Fulton
street. but adhered to the general policy OF silence
The reporter was more than ever Impressed with
the belier that the jury had covenanted among
themselves to converse little with the represen ia
tives OF the press.
"Mr. Whelan, will you give me statement
regarding the arguments and the deliberatio
which occupied youf time in the jury room and
finally eliminated In a disagreement Z" asked the
reporter.
ii d. not feel justified in speaking about the
matter" was the reply. 81 Will say that am a
Beecher man, and That the jury stood nine to
three
'Wlll you give me the names OF the three 20
asked the reporter
al must decline" replied the ex-juror.
"Wlll you make no communication whatever in
regard to your efforts to bring the three men 10
your way OF tninkingr' asked the HERALD re-
'I win make no communication In regard to
anything" firmly retorted The redoubtable Wne-
Ian.
what Is your opinion OF the evidence given at
IL decline to answer anything about the trial or
the action OF the Jury. Good afternoon
WHAT JUROR DAVIS SAYS.
The HERALD reporter next called upon Juryman
DAVIS, whose residence Is at No. Coz De Kalb ave-
nue.. Brooklyn.
REPoRTER-l have called to see you In relation
TO your disagreement.
Mr. DAvIs-Tne disagreement was inevitable
We all split upon the testimony OF the various
witnesses You will remember that the evide nee
on both sides was Numerically opposite.
Pm nlton man. l believe Henry
Ward Reeeher to be guilty; guilty Of everything
charged against him. Ny conclusion IS derived
from the extraordinary letters he wrote, from the
waverlng testimony he presented when under
cross-eXaminaton, from his utter Iorgetul
ness OF everything relating to his In.
tlmacy with Mrs. Titon, and from
hundred other things which I have not time
now TO mention. That one wonderful letter
addressed by MIR. Beecner TO Mrs. Tilton In which
Mr., Beecher said that as his wife was going South
1t Teud be perfectly safe for her Mrs Tiltop) 10
call at mis- house, was admitted as evidence, and
was TO the Tllton men so conclusive OF Beecher's
guilt that none OF the numerous arguments
brought up by the Beecher side could possibly
change our OPINIONS.
the scenes in the jury room were quite ludl-
crous. The first night was spent IN balotlng 4
vote being cast every hour. No one slept wink.
~ NV Inn AL nr nlaA
walked arm IN arm with companion. The ballot
varied very much. 1 dare not tell you how It
stood, and even II l were at liberty to DO so l
doubt whether could remember now 1t nuctu-
ated. sometimes our side Qlton's) would be in
the sscendency,- AMI sometimes the other
iact we jurymen were about as uncertain and
surely as fully excited about the lnal issue as
the vast concourse OF people wnom we coulo see
eagerly watching our movements outside. Ana,
by the way Whle am speaking or the crowd
without, would earnestly request you to deny
changed between the jury and those VINO
were waiting for the veralcI. But [ was
The most OF US slept upon chairs, tables, &c., and
those who could moi iare we'll slept upon the
floor. Carpenter. being TAT fellow and rather
weak IN bhe back, sent out for mattress. AS
soon as that mattress came up everybody wanted
II. But the mattress was Carpenters, and no one
lett That ne could honora0ly take 1t away rom him.
Carpenter went to sleep. lie snored irlghtlully.
None Of the Jurymen who we're awake could
Carpenter On and took the Sn9 mattress so hm nUiG
No sooner had this fellow fallen asleep than some
other fellow rolled him on; and so It was roll on
and roll OF all night long, ana when morning
came poor Carpenter found himself lyIng upon the
hard moor, with every bone dreaduly acn-
ing and every limb tremendously sun. Car
peuter didn't like tue treatment the el-
lows gave him any than the lei
lows Liked Carpenters snoring. aud in robbing
nun oil mis- mattress we unfortunate fellows who
were compelled 10 sleep upon tables and chairs
with nothing but our high hats or doubled up
coats or a pillow, considered our revenge sweet,
and slumDered perfectly happy. / want that dis
tnctly understood.
REPoRTgR-But, Mr.. Davis, the rumor Is also
current tnat the jury sto0a nine Tor the de iendant
and three for the plaintiI. Is TINS true9
Mr.. DAvIs-I am not at liberty TO stare how we
stood at the end. SO IL really Is reported that we
stood to 8, chr Well, II you should make any
other guess don't think you would be right.
JOHN MMURN.
Mr.. McAurn was found at his residence No. so
Rochester avenue, taking bis breakfast with his
family for the first time for a week. he is very
intelligent freshman and a nrm believer In
Beecher's innocence.