The New York herald., 1875-08-18

mower Tho success or tho defeat or the democratic
party in this State involves far graver questions than
mere personal advancement or local party success.
Upon a proper solution OF this financial question de-
pends the welfare of the whole country this fight
in Ohio the very beginning Of the great and important
controversy The tendency Of the money power Is for
stronger government and that is the reason General
Grant is TO be nominated for third term. They
can depend on him TO sign any bill they get passed.
and they will finally settle down upon him as their most
available man. You see," continued the sage of "Fruit
Hill - "Grant will 90 into the Republican Convention
with all the Southern States solid for him. and perhaps
a few votes from some Of the Northern States while
the remainder Will be divided between Norton Conkng
Blaine Bristow, &c. After few unsuccessful ballots
under the manipulation Of tho hard money men, they
will give Grant and hard platform in prefer
ence TO a Democrat and the result will be his nomna
ton The men ol wall street may not this out
In this way now for they usually of polti
cal planning but few wiser heads win give them the
cue"
THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.
VINO DO you think will be the democratic nominee
Tor PresdentY" asked.
swell sir l do not like to be quoted as to names l
do not want to critcse any mans position, for there
are so many probable candidates. but two things are
certain. First that whoever is nominated must run
against General Grant, second that whoever becomes
the democratic candidate must be whose record has
always been of straightforward consistency to the
democratic party and the questions that are now all
important / may say right here, however, without
reference to any other PERSONS position, that looking
back my public service, there is not vote pub
lie utterance of mine that has not been entirely
sstent and borne out by the logic of events. tell
YOU . said the Governor warming up to the subject
fSNpiS iAN's
selves squarey upon the issues Of the hour and discuss
them without fear or favor; and don't think any
will of giving out my views upon any ques-
tion with an uncertain sound"
The Governor would say what he thought of Pen
dleton's or Thurman's chances for Presidential
nation, even Hendricks; but clear twinkle in the
veterans eagle eye he discussed the subject left the
impression with me that he thought their chances very
slim. In fact am persuaded that he himself would be
rather willing than otherwise for Presidential nonna-
ton, If he wins this gubernatoria race.
TWENTY -FOUR HOURS TALK
tive M M fha COvor
hospitable mansion there was multitude of subjects
discussed for he is full of vitality and information, and
loves to dispense it for the benefit Of those who
tent TO listen He never tires of talking history ancient
and modern, and is full of anecdotes about Calhoun,
Clay Webster and Benton, and which he relates with
great zest His manner of speech is very impressive.
He has a wonderful memory, and talks days and dates
for things past and present with great facility He loves
talk finance and does whenever opportunity offers.
He declares that all that Is necessary TO make paper
money of gold value is faith in the ability Of the govern
ment to meet its obligations and that more credit and
not gold, and greater confidence in the govern
ment is what is necessary to give stability TO the bust
ness interests of the country"
THE NEXT FIGHT.
'The next great fight, says the Governor 's to be
whether those who pay the taxes shall levy them or
those who receive the taxes say how much shall be
levied, and when and in what manner they shall be col
lected. The bondholders and the money power pay
less than oneth of the taxes of the country and yet
they have manipulated and controlled legislation that
the people who pay -liths have had virtually
voice in the matter of the levy or collection This
should and will be changed, and this year in
Ohio beginning the contest that is to give the people
voice in these matters. Next year will be
tinued with General Grant representing the money
power and the nations tax receivers, and other
representing the four-fifths of the taxpaying
people of the land Who doubt the result of such
a contest either in Ohio or in the natonH tell you,
sir the people and not money will rule this country
hereafter" When the veteran statesman gave utter
to these words he grew in earliest than ever,
and, running his long fingers through his snow white
hair and standing it straight up, he looked the counter
part of Andrew jackson in some of his most emphatic
moods
The Governor would not say much about Governor
Hayes his competitor and conented himself with the
general questions have above given. He said ''that
he should not leave Fruit Hp again to take part in
the contest until the 2Sh of August and that he should
then keep moving till the end Of the campaign"
In reply to the question as to whether he would be
Presidential candidate and the ntmation in the
papers that he kind of running things for Thur
mans benefit the Governor said with warmth, 81 am
in the way Of any man. and am not out of the way
for any man."