New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-06-05
WASHINGTON.
.vorHER FRUITLEss INTERVIEW WITH THE
INDIANS.

ANOTHER FRCITLESS INTERVIEW WITH THE
INDIANS.
~n CLOUD RKTUsKs TO HAVE HIS PHOTOGRAPH
,.xyy UNLESS PAID SOS SECRETARY DELANo
rAus TO CONVINCE THE DELEGATION OF THE
GOOD INTENDED THEM-THEY SEPARATE WITH
orr COMING TO ANY UNDERSTANDING.
WASHINGTON, June 4.-The Indians were all
,ourt up TO the Interior Department about 10 O'Clock
@ morning and grouped in the inner open court OF tne
,uud,ns when their photographs were taken oy the
.,erator of the Patent Office Department ked Cloup
sned 20 ioin the group saying that they could nave
A. picture by paying him S25 for it, Aterward some OF
S promiuent chiefs with Bishop Hare, Major Bingham
Major Howard. and Mr.. Human, were taken in group
~ themselves The Indians then repaired to the secre
60 roo when Secretary Dclano held brief council
18th Them assuring them Of the good wishes OF the De
,artment and saying that If they did not believe him
and do as he advised, he afraid they would here
..e- believe him 20 their sorrow. lie tod them that
ev would take the sos O0O ne would try 70 get $4,000
ore for them next Winter. II they did not, he would
,.tuse 70 let them have the privilege of hunt
nc on the Smoky Hill Fork any longer.
Nc could not afford 10 have the peace OF the country dis
,rd or incur the danger OF having murder committed,
Nv allowing them 70 hunt there any longer In relation
% the Black Hills, he said commission had been sent
An, 70 see If there was any gold there. Neither he
~, President knew whether there any there not
r,h,re WAS il would be impossible keep the white
ople out " Hills. The Indians cannot always re-
-ain their Young men, he said, the whites al
vavs De- restrained II gold was found there, the Gov
.nmen would pay them literally for the land. There
80 norton Of the Big Horn country that the Indians
sA NOT use and the Government would buy that at
a. nrice map was brought and tc portion of cOun
~ pointed out 10 them and explained. The Secretary
desired them 70 take al tha; had been sd 10 theln home
20 their people and Obtain an answer, aud send word
hsck IA him as soon hs possible.
spotted Tail said that ne wanted 10 DO what was rlSht
,ni mat the Great spirit had told him never to steal
sayhody- without paving for H. nyou had the
rhf he S4fn Npf ali WHi
enough The country spoken Of belongs to the Crows
The treaty Of l-6S gave nm MS country. Mheh you
Inv he continued. pay great price. and we do the
.sn,e As for the Black Hs they are worth heap and
n T. not worth while for Us 10 talk about them.
Tho secretary replied that ne had not accused him or
hs l4opIc ~ stealing he did not want spotted Tail
~ a,el-, the Great Fatner of stealing from him We
sont expect this country. ne said. and we are
nj -of send the array up there 60 take II rom the
indians They don't give us credit FOR our desire to do
Rid Cloud wanted to have the bills of the white
Who with him paid and he gave the secretary
st of their names, which war referred 70 The Commits
sIorted laii said he wanted to talk about his agency
matters before lie went home, and he would Ike TO go
home tomorrow after breakfast The Secretary here
withdrew, telling the indians tDat ttey might IA "a,
,ght with the Commissioners about their agencies II
they wanted TO- "a A' bae a"bcr f dnr2c the daT
Prof Marsh and the Board ~ Indian Commissioners were
pnon liar held an interview with the Indians at the
fremont House tonight and endeavored 10 show them
the advantages which they might derive by snrchIerh2
lie Black Hills 10 the Government for land east OF the
Missouri River which he assured them was much better
~ fhair habfaon and Use He assured them that the
President earnest IN his efforts 10 Keep Whlte peO-
pie out of Their territory but thought II would he wiser
II them 70 give up the Black Hi!s II the Government
would agree 70 feed and eothe them Tor NUMBER oi
years. . ,-,.
Ri Cloud replied that he had both and Judgment;
n mad heard such talk since he had been here and
be had listening hut had not said much When the
TO LIS country lie would TURN me tDlys'
and have great many things 10 say on MS size OF TIC
Gn siio The Indians expect 10 start for home t0a"r-
row and viii 60 by way of NewYork where they Will re-
main two three DAYS.
secretary Deino aud Assistant Secretary Cowen au-
thOre the statement that the order eNcuuhS reporters
M others from being present az the Indian Council on
Tesdav cmanated directly from the President and not
nom Tie secretary The President the order simply
because the room small and the crowd so great
that he feard interview would be embarrassed and
rendered. by the pressure AT the same
time lie directed COwen TO have verbatim report
made and furnished 10 the press