New-York tribune., 1875-05-13
GEN. TRACY CONTRADICTED.

you said:
He said in that conversation, at is memorandum or
notes. OF a conversation had with Mr.. Beecher'
Did you say that or anything Of that import 70 Mr
Tracy with reference to that letter. A. NO
O. And Mr. Tracy says that he said in referring 10 that
letter that this paper would simply seem to imply that
Mr. Reecher had been attempting the virtue Of Mrs TIL
ton without success" did Mr. Tracy make use OF any
language OF that kindi A No.
O. To you or in your presencei A. No.
O. In reference to that letter A. No.
O. Mr. Tracy uses this language in referring to what
has come to he known as the True Story"
Thereupon Mr.. Tilton unfoded as remember Gov
ering Of manuscript which he brought with him INTO
the room, and began to read a statement
Now, did Mr. Tnton at that interview read the True
Story" any part Of iti A. No, Sir
q. Was II theref A No, Sir.
O. Do you know whether it had been written at that
time or noti A. 1t had not been written.
Mr. Evarts-well. that object to.
Judge Neilson-That is not material.
Mr. Eyarts-It is wholly immaterial whether 1t was
written or not, II 1t was not there.
Mr. Morris-I read this paragraph. Mr. Mouton, and
ask your attention to it, in reference o tins same inter-
viow Mr.. Tracy says:
discussed with Mr.. Tten the probability OF the truth
OF his wifes statement in regard to the charge oi I'M
that Mr. Titon understand howyou
may believe Mr. Beecher has been guilty OF that oese,
and can understand possibly how your wife may have
Conceived that he had intended to make to her an i'm i'm
this statenent of your wife, Mr. Beecher made an
improper proposal to her. is the result OF msunderstand
ing on her parti"
Was any such language as that USED Dy MT Tracy III
that interview A No, Sir.
O. Was there any discussion whatever upon the SUD-
ject of improper proposals. A. Not a word Sir.
O. Or any ausion to tl A. Nor any aluson to It, ex-
cept far the letter of retracon alluded TO the I'm
proper proposals. Sir, or improper advances.
O. Mr. Tracy says that interview he made this prop0-
ston:
said to meet that MI Tilton, how would it be II
YOU and Mr. cecher and wife can agree as to VIVA,
the real facts in this case-how Will 1t do Tor you ana
Mr. Beccher TO 60 before more eminent citizens OF
Brooklyn and make a statement OF the factsF
Was ary such proposition as that made by Mr. Tracy
any such proposition suggestion made by MI Tracy
during any part Of that interview A. No, Sir.
O. Following that he puts this language in the mouth
Of Mr.. MOutOn:
Mr. Moulton asked me In substance what, in my judg
ment could be done for Mr. T9n II TINS matter TaS aS
Mr. Tlton was to go to Europe
Did you use the language imputed to you in the first
parti A. Won't you repeat the language of the first
part
O. "Mr Moulton asked me in substance what in my
Judgment could be done for Mr.. Tlton If this matter was
buried in this that is, by making statement to
some eminent citizens A. What in my Judgment could
be done for Mr.. HtOnf
O. Yes A. No, Sir.
QIwill read the balance of this paragraph, commenc
ing where left off:
this controversy now and i'll whom the pubic nave con
hdence and there make mutual statement OF what The
real truth in this matter out OF which all TINS story
has sprung and then destroy the documents SAID at
would prevent either one from going back upon the
other he will be bound by the statement that ne
has made this person or these persons VINO always
state what the fact Was and M Beecher cannot 20
back you nor you on Ny. Beecher
Now did Mr. Tracy make any statement of that kind,
or any suggestion that language, any language
OF any similar import. A. There was no proposition
made by Mr. Tracy leave it to person or to any
number of persons sand then destroy the documents
nothing like that, Sir.
O. Was anything said Mr. MOuton, about burning the
papers documents at the time Of the arbitration be-
tween Mr.. TiltOn and Mr.. Bowenf
Mr.. EvaTts-What is the question: Excuse me-
Mr. Belch-Was anything said about burning the docu
uents at the time of the arbitratione
Mr. Morris-That you heard. Did you hear anything
A. There nothing said, Sir
O. Were you present during the proceedings before the
arbitration A. was present all the time, Sir.
O. Did you hear before the arbitration any matter dis
cussd or talked about other than the money claim OF Mr.
Tlton against Mr. Bowen growing out OF the contract
A. Yes an expression of desire by Mr Cafin to have
Mr. Bowen sign the draft of the Iripartite Covenant
made by Sam Wikeson.
O. To whom that remark made A. To whom was
that remark made Made by Mr. Clain to me.
Mr. Evarts-It very material, but 1t is not con-
tradction.
Mr.. Beach-Yes it is, directly Sir.
Mr.. Evarts-It is not in regard TO any statement
Mr.. Bcach-Why yes, 1t is.
Mr.. Evarts-1his witness gave his account OF what
occurred the arbitration and the other gentlemen
have given their account.
Mr. Beach-That says that something more occurred in
regard to the Tripartte Covenant"
Judge Neilson-To that extent you interrogate him.
Mr. Beach-yery well, Sir; what reply did he make 10
it, They say that it was agreed there that the IT
partite Covenant
xrbat Tho orntt hava all
stated.
Mt Beach-The arbrators did not all state that; but,
nevertheless, ask this question.
Mr Morris-What reply did you make, if anyl A.
What reply did make TO Mr. Cann don't remeulbcr
the reply that made; it matter entirely within
his sphere-sOmething that he understood himself
Mr. Bcach-But what was it Mr. Clahin sadi lie said
il to you understands A. He said it to me- yes, Sir ;
he said he didn't care what there was in Bowers soul
Bowen must sign that paper that what he said 10 me;
remember that distinctly; is that the answeri
Mr. Beach-Well that at the time OF the arbtra-
tioni
The witness-No, Sir not at Ihe time of the arbtra
Mr.. Beach-wen, you were asked ct the time of the
arbitration.
Mr. Morris-I asking you simply at the time of the
arbitration.
Mr.. Beach-At the meeting Of the arbitrators.
The witness-The question not put in that way,
Mr.. Beach.
Mr. Evarts-Well. this is all 10 be struck out
Mr. Beach-Yes strike II all Go back to the ques
tOB.
Mr. Morris-Now, viii the stenographcr read the ques
tOnt
The Tribune senographer read the question follows
Did You hear before the arbitration matter dis
cussed talked about other than the money Claim OF MI
TOn against Mr. Bowen, growing out OF the contractf
Mr. Beach--we gave a different construction to it.
The wtness-To the word before" Then we are both
right
A. peacb--Refore the arbitration