New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-06-09
THE INTERVIEW OF JUNE 2.

THE INTERVIEW OF JUNE 2.
Now, gentlemen, in regard to Mrs. MOultOn's
testimony (Which must be pretty brief With she gives
you understand that the nature of this interview was
OF this kind
This probably my last conversation with you feel
that II Mr. Tlton publishes my letter OF apology Is
useless for me to try any longer 10 live this down
Well. that not the situation Monday. Mr.. Til
ton had withdrawn from the publication Of the Letter
Of Apology" when he was advised by Mr. Beecher,
through Mr MoultOn the moment you do that there Is
an end of tho policy Of silence and going to have
the whole truth" so that had disappeared and there is
the first moral abb that out Of this ladys own mouth
dspaces the occasion Of any possible future talk OF the
kind that she narrstes. Then this lady says;
There something better for you to do than that You
might well 90 OF life 1t Ia useless trying to 1--we
down.
think she to have taken as adcberate threat
OF suicide in that mild form Of statement that 1t would
be useless TO live 1t down."
think that would be very cowardy thing for you to
do Go down to your church and confess your crime
They will forgive you
Well, now gentlemen IL the crime, this phrase in
erpOsed into conversation where it never occurred-h
the crime Of the nature that Mr.. Beecher has dis
closed land that you must find upon irrefragabe evil
dence the only fault he commtted), you can under
stand how lady might say to Mr. Beecher at some con-
versaon or other exactly what her husband had said IN
writing ON tho LIST Of Juno: II the whole case Is
made known you can stand" Bring out thc pup
Icity! Why that is the very thing that Mr. Beec1er
had threatened to do Saturday night and that was
bombshell in the camp Of Messrs TiIton and Mouton
"WelI WELL" he says no. it would make trouble
could not stand It," Well" she "you could write
for your paper you could go to your farm and wrte
And when Mr. Beecher deprecatcs that, and says NO
my position Is that Of spiritual and moral teacher II
can longer hold that position, then there Is nothing
left for me-" Now, he comes out with distinct an
nOuncement
lam resolved to take my life I have powder at
home on my library table which have prepared. which
shall take. and shall sink quietly of as II gong to
have nothing to live for In fact pray for death
happy release from all my trials and troubles
Did he pray for release, by his own hand to commit
the final crime OF impiey God and OF cruelty to his
famnyi "And feel that II publish now card in The
Eagie"-if publish now card in The Eagle -" will
only be temporary release :" and the card was set up
and in print already! 1t not future publication
that could be made the subject OF conversation in the
forenoon Of the I'd Of June.
"Well, I felt very much grieved; begged him to 20
down to the church."
how this lady encouraged this clergyman
~ said, 'Mr. Moulton will still stand by you; and. no
anal ANN canvinced hat the only way out OF this trouble
for you Is by telling the truth"
Well now that rather sensible. If the truth was as
it it, and she understood it to be you might talk IN
that way think there little Inconsistency i'll this
ing little bad and gets mixed before we get through
the interview, because here she says to him: Tho
Church will stand by you, and, II they DON'T
| WILL approve Of you; you may count on that
will stick to you anyhow" Laughter.l And, then.
afterwards she says "We, now, Mr.. Beecher. 1t may
be that all the OF your church Will stand BY YOU AS
have said they would but for cannot. You ara
like an open grave to me. I never you think Of
you without and disquetude OF mnd
cannot come there; cannot take the communion
have lost my faith i'll all men, because have
lost it in you" Now, am afraid that this lady does not
accurately remember the course OF reasoning that she
pursued through those long hot hours OF June with this
gentleman who his way to Peekskill. Then, in
another FORM she says: swell, Mr. Beechcr. the only
way you can this matter is to so and make con-
fessiOn Of it," Well, that is rather mixed express
sion. The only way you can cover your fault II
by going and proclaiming 1t, and don't commit
suicide; better confess II anybody didn't know, at
least Mr.. Webster said In the famous White trial:
"For guilt there alternatives but suicide con.
fcsOn and suicide is confession" The only suicide
could escape the construction OF confession and OF the
most enormous guilt. burying Mr.. Beecher's family
and church and everybody else in terror and
confusion would have been by resort to
this subtle poison which, If unmolestcd by tho
children, would be always accessible to him that he
might to have died natural death; but TO guard
against that saving OF his reputation and the feelings OF
his family, he around To tell Mrs. Mouon that he
going to take the powder and kill himself from his
grief ut his sins. Well nice witness Mrs. Mout0n
would have made ut the Coroners inquest Laughterl
Gentlemen, there Is but inscription suitable TO the
portals OF this evidence, you asked TO believe
It, not only from this witness, but from Mr. IltOn and
other witnesses OF the plaintiff except this: All who
enter here leave behind" and, II you will
only do that, then you will get through any amount Of
oral statements Of ongpast interviews now brought
out in this confused Well won't say any more
about this interview.