The star. (Cincinnati [Ohio]) 1874-1875, 1875-02-15
Pacific Mail.

WASHINGTON, Feb. 15.-ln the Pacific
Mail investigation Joseph Dillon, laLe
bOOk-keeper to Sergeant-at-arms, was re.
called this morning and his testimony
taken last Saturday WAS read to HIM.
On that occasion he testified that he had
been before the committee last Congress
and had no additional information ex-
cept that which he derived from hearsay.
An his Information about the payment
Of money by any agent of the Pacific
Mail Steamship Company was obtained
from outsiders.
@. DO you know Of any body who does
know of such payment? A. l uOnL. l heard
yumors; my attention was first attracted
by the agent coming into my office and
saying he would not be in the subsidy
scrape for the world.
Q. Did lie say what the scrape was
A, No; but he alluded to moneys which
had been paid for the subsidy; i suppose
because, at that time $1,000 bills were
being circulated; that called my atten-
tiOn to it, and out of sport, nothing else,
lput down the names of some of these
gentlemen.
@. Can you tell me now their names
A. NO, sir, / can not; have a bad mem
Ory for names, and frequently when men,
bers of Congress come in l have to ask
their names.
@. Do you not recollect having made
use OF one expression that "YUu noticed
some members who have been impecuni-
Ous before the. passage of the subsidy,
and were subsequently tlush?" A. did
no doubt; that was the expression used
in that connection.
@. And that YOU made an entry OF
names OF those who, you thought, might
have received the money? A.sNo, L
made an entry OF the names of those who
brought money. l recollect that / said
there " ere some gentlemen whom knew
had been in the habit OF getting their
salaries by drawing $50 or 500 on ac-
count, and who brought in $1,000 bills
AiterWard.
Continueing, he. said he put the ini-
tials down generally Immediately after
presence OF the members. He could not
recOllect how long this was after the pas
sage OF the subsidy.
Q. We would like you to reproduce
everything you know about the transac.
tiOn. A. 1 have said all do know. 1
have really NO personal knowledge of the
matter at all. @. After you testified be-
fore the Committed last Congress, did you
not subsequently appear before the Com.
mitiee an request TO withdraw your tes-
tjmony, A.. Idid.
@. Did that grow out of your satisfac-
tioll, that you were mistaken. A. No,
cir; 1t grew out Of my modification at
having been led on to take these names
at all. 1t was matter In which had
no business TO interfere.
4 knew afterwards that 1t had been the
means Of depriving mo OF the good opin-
ton of some gentlemen whose esteem l
valued very highly, and erased the
names from the book and my memory.
@. What was the names Of the gentle
men who told you that he would not be
jn the scrape't for all the world? A. 1t
was Mr.. Ordway. -
Q. Are you quite sure that 0rdway's
remarkB did not relate to Mr.. King in
stead of 4 member OF Congresss A. i
can notsay to whom his remark referred.
Q.sDe you know whether it referred to
members Of Congress or to Mr.. King? A.
No. sir; but l think it more than prOba.
Bile that it referred to King, from his sub.
sequent remarks.
*. III, Whiting was called and testified
fhathe was employed by II. u. Irwin toy
do,all he could to get the subsidy through.
His contract was Tor $4,000 year for
ten years, the time for which the subsi-
dy Was 10 run.
This was subsequently cancelled and
witness agreed to take s5,650. The SER
vice he was specially to render was to
secure Senator Coles influence in favor
Of the subsidy. He talked to members
and urged the Importance of the subsidy
30 the business of the country. ~.
When he talked tO Senator Cole he
found that gentleman in favor of the sub
sSdy, He said 1t was a Pacific Coast
measure, and that he would favor it.
! Witness never told Cole that he was
1fsQd 70 urge the subsidy. -,
The argument be used was thatit was
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