The New York herald., 1875-08-17

material in tho estimate and tho price which should
have been paid with the difference
O. Read itY A. With regard to the excavation, all
having done previous TO my taking charge OF tho
work, | have way Of judging as 10 whether the
amounts given here arc an accurate representation OF
the amounts or not therefore put them down as
found them in the book; the excavation was, OF
course, entirely out before | there and |
didn't feel competent 20 swear as 10 whether these
crosssections correct whether they are
rect and don't vouch for them in any particular; |
have taken the estimate Of Mr. Cantwe upon the lst Of
December, 1874; his quantities given there; will
give the discrepanciesperhaps that is tho best way
there is credited 20 the contractor LIST of December
6073 cubic yards Of rock, at 81 yard making SO 973;
find 4.06902 yards of rock nc Al, making $4 970
very nearly-a difference Of $2,003; find no
embankinent according 10 the requirements Of
the contract lnd no lining; there has been
allowed embankment 0,194 yards ot 25 cents making
81, Z9s 5oi there have been allowed OF lining, 1883
yards at 2ents, making $73S 25 find no lining and no
embankment whatever; there has been credited TO the
contractor lS6 cubic yards of the vertical wall
at 50 yard, making $780, find 9392 yards making
$469 Goa difference Of $4G0 40 there has credited
wall, dry making si7oi3; find s6ios5,
there is credited TO the contractor 73s00
feet board measure of white oak at $40 thousand,
making T2,o52; don't find any white oak in the work;
there is credited to the So 700 feet board
measure, Of hemock, at 500 thousand making 81 7o4;
ference Of S39l %; find credited to tho contractor
44S feet linear OF snubbing posts at 40c., making
@ SI.o 2o; find 44o feet, making $l76 a differ,
tractor 2,426 pounds Of wrought iron at 1oc
"a pound, making S242 60; l find 1896 pounds,
making $3.50 co a difference of fs3; there is credited
10 the contractor s25 pounds of spikes and nails at
&C., amounting TO SAG; find 67S pounds OF spikes
fnd credited to the contractor J. 1o4 CUBIC yards OF
slope wall at 81 yard. making 81, ,20S; find 494
yards making $aoO-a difference of 81, llS
o. Was thero no price in tho contract ? A. No. sir.
@ He substituted the bard wood for the oak, and
rchargcd accordingly A. Yes, sir.
O. Did you find any false tics? A counted twenty
four false ties, ties which did not extend back OF
the docking timber
inchcs9 A. Not exceeding eighteen inches.
O. Whnt should have been their lcngthP A. Tho
length should have bcen and the length which the con-
tractor credited for was, eight feet
O. What is the gross amount in dollars and cents of
the discrepancy that contract as now stated by your
A. $l4, l2l 30.
O. Does that include the tics? A. Yes, sir.
@ You with to understand that $l4 121 35
received by the contractor more than the amount of the
O Do you know whether he has charged there for
imaginary excavation and embankment for the imagn-
ary slope? A. | would say that don't know with
gard to the excavation whether there is excess of
charge not; that throughout the work the wall
put excavation and therefore, there must be just
charge for embankment; there has been charged to
embankment the amount which gave here.
ENGINEER
Then following is an abstract from the testimony Of
Engineer W. s. Scott
O. Now can you tell me whether you made any actual
measurements 10 ascertain whether this Of the
thickness whether you assumed was two and ahalf
feet on top2 A. No, didn't mako any measurements
previously
O. Is this allowance Of two and a-half feet at tho top
tho wall and allowance of batter Of three inches
the foot tho result of actual measurements
assumption that that is the sizep A. II is partially
result of measurement
O. Then 1t is the result OF measurement and assump-
O. About how many places on this nincty-six chains
did you and find TWO and half feet in thick
ness? How many places did You that you can
now speak of from any data you have got? A. Three
places
Ar ,,loo I AIran lie
@. On how many places Of the three different walls
did you the wall at the top2 A. don't know
q. Do you know, at any place, what tho thickness
was at the top of the WALL from actual measurement
A. l can't locate any place
O. Why did you say it was from measurement when
you cannot can locate IL at any placer A. Be-
cause did take measurements
@ You cannot locate the placc' A. No. sir but
can locate the wall
@. Which side 1t on? A. Tho towpath sidc just
west Of lock IS
O. How thick was It at the topp A. Two and half
feet
O. How high IT perpcndiculariy' A The wall
partly nine feet and partly ten feet.
Q. DO you know on what angle the base of tho wall
set? A. No, sir.
O. Do you of any of the wall that was constructed
whic you were there in chargc' A. No, sir.
@. Are you able to say whether 1t built line
parallel with the bottom Of the canal line that
right angles with the face Of the wall as built?
A. II was mostly intermediate between the two think
q. The question is, do you know A. don't know
O Do you know how many yards of excavation you
A. Earth excavation, 1856 yards
Q. How much of that was for excavation actually
made and how much is included in that 1885 yards
hypothetical allowance regardless Of the fact that it
never was made the reason ask you is this notice
an extraordinary entry here on this paper Estimate
of work done under Mr.. Thorne and under Mr. Scott
and estimated by the latter in accordance with the in
sructions of the Investigating Commissioners want
20 know who of this Commission gave you any in
@ Now, 1 want to know now much of that 4,3s5
yards was actual excavation, and how much of 1t
WI thptc nl fha farf
yourself that the excavation had not been made
you tell? A. cannot tell
O. Can you approximate it1 A. Yes, sir.
q About how much was allowed, as you
able TO tell from all the data you have got and from
you best recoectlonY Ihere was all that and more,
too, according to the estimates but some of that don't
know anything about and gave that quantity, and to
that should be addcd-from information derived from
others-what was about the actual quantity of
the pieces
O. Do you want that answcr9 A. (aftcr renccting)
No, sir.
BY Mr.. Van Buren-Q. How can you have more error
than the whole thing? A. That is what tried to OK
plain TO Mr.. Sweet the other day.
O. Do you know about how many yards Of earth were
excavated under this contract during the time you
there2 A. Yes, sir
O. About how many yards wcrc actually excavatcd
during the time you wcrc-l speak now of actual
cavation2 A. During the time was there ,225 yards
o Was that the whole amountS A. Yes, sir
O. Then where did you get the excess of 100 yards
that it takes to make up the amount for which you
gave estimates? A. That was included in ahypohct-
ical slope back of the vertical walls
O. Between where? A. Between the arbitrary slope
of to and the vertical plane in the Of tho wall
q How much of the 3 100 yards do you account for
being actually cXcavatcd, according 10 your best
judgments A. | cannot say anything about it; don't
know.
O. Why don't you know; you not thercp A. I
wasn't there
O. You asked just this simple question, how
much of his 4,3S5 yards that you allowed for for
actual excavation according to your best knowledge
and all the light you had? a. That say, ,225
yards
O. All the actual excavation, is that rightP A. Yes,
sir; in that ], 225 yards is assumed allowance
O. fhow much? Tell me, first, how much there
Of actual excavation; tell me how many yards of
earth excavation actually made that are embraced
in this 4,3S5g A. SAY l, 2253 yards
O. You said n moment ago that this embraced an as
sumed aowance9 A. No, sir.
O. Do you understand tho answer to be that l, 225
yards would all the excavation that IL
sary to make in order to do this work for which you
have given estimate Of 4, 1885 yards A. Yes, sir
O. Now, then, how much did you allow in your
estimates for the work that done during tho time
you had charge Of IL a. 2, ,237 yards.
@ And 225 was what you think it ought to have