The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-20
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Q. Do You remember occasion when Mrs.
woodruff came to your house, and Mr.. MouIton
was there, and Mr.. TiltOn was there. and you
were there, IN your husbands rooms-I suppose
do you remember Mrs. WOodhull's coming IN
Q. DO you remember how she sauted you and
your husband and Mr.. Tton on that occasion
A. don't understand your question.
Q. How she saluted those three personsf A.
She always saluted me IN ladylike and usual
q. Yes. DO you remember that she saluted MIR.
TIiton. Mr. Moulton and yourself each with a
kiss ? A. remember that she kissed me.
q DO you remember that she salured each Of
you on that occasion with Kiss A. don't re-
member.
MRS. MouLroN AS A WITNESS
q. Now, Mrs. Moulton, how early did you learn
that It was desired that you should be witness
In this casef A. Since Mr.. Beecher made hts state
W1ness nave pSeen % o. Inc ac H., mat was to be
nave given to-day are from my unassisted memory
lnever wrote them out; have given the substance
them, but coula not forget my interviews with
MI: Beecher; always salured Mr.. Bsecher in a
now MIR. BEEcHBR WAS sALurEp.
@ Did you usually salute him with kisss A.
O. Did you never salute him with a kiss A.
never remember to have kissed Mr.. Beecher, but
with one exception on the morning when he told
me that he was about to commit suicide, when
ne was sitting in chair. the tears streaming
down his face; stood behind him and leaned
only time that ever kissed him.
g You remember that hat o &c. A. ! do. sir.
W Wuen you ulu KISS ulIu Oh Tue IOIcueaQ ana
put your arms around MIN
Mr.. Fullerton-No sir.
A. No, sir; put my hand 40 on his shoulder
was sitting In the chair and the tears streaming
down his face; when he had spoken to me OF his
great suffering and OF my
@ Well, the occasion you have givcni
Mr.. Fullerton--Well. let her state 1t.
Mr.. Evarts-The occasion she has given. Now I
DON'T ask her to repeat 1t. am not bound to take
repetition.
Judge Neiison-Tnere Is no occasion for 1T.
iQ hnf eli
Mr.. Evarts-There Is no occasion for 1t.
Mr.. Fulerton---Wel, agree to it,
@. Now, do you remember saying to him at tho
time when you thus Kissed HIM on the forehead,
whenever that may have been, that If there ever
said that had believed he was a good man: /
had believed in him more thoroughly than any
Stner man r ana tnat aayng known what had or
Q. Well, now, did yon or not, at the time you
kissed him on the forehead, Whenever that was
man you believed he was onef A. think I said
10 him that had believed he was good man.
and at tnat time believed there was still great
deal Of good IN Mr.. Beecher.
Q. Have you altered your mind In that particular
during the last year A. l have not any iaith In
Q. When did you lose 1t A. My faith as moral
teacher in Mr.. Beecher was destroyed when
Q. But this remnant that you had at that time !:
when did you lose that remnant that there was
good deal OF good In him A. In the way In which
ne has-rhe course that he has pursued Tor last
year.
u. reward your husband A. Yes.
T. Now ask you, madame, again, II, when you
put your hand upon him and kissed him on the lore
head, you uid not then say to him that If there
them 4. think said to Mr.. Beecher believed
there was great deal OF good in him stil:
g You think that was what you said A.
Q. And you thlnk-do you remember that you
didn't say 'lf there ever was good man believe
you are one 7" A. don't remember that stated
1t in that way; think do remember of saying
that believed there was great deal OF good in
q. Yes, you think that was what you said You
think that was said on the occasion when you
thus Kissed him on the loreheadS A. think so,
yes.
Q. Do you remember. think you said that You
never kissed Mr.. Beecher In he presence or your
In the habit OF kissing Mr. Beecher.
Q. Well, l want your recollection distinctly II
you have any on that subjecta A. Irecollect that
CONVERSATION WITH HALLIDAY.
@ Wen now, do you or not remember that you
said To Mr.. Halliday the words that InOw repeat,
or words to this e1ect:-"Mr. Halliday Mr..
Beeeher Is my pastor. and has been from my child
ing that Will lessen my confidence In him or my
affection Tor him one particle A. don't remem-
Der the last part Of that remark; the first part
Q. the arst part You remembers A. remember
said Mr.. Beecher had been my pastor since was
sixteen years old: that had told to every one,
because It was the truth.
Q. Did Mr.. Halliday know thati A. don't
first visit to the house, as nearly as can remem-
Der.
Q. Not his first connection with the church, A.
NJ, sir; but hr didn't Know me personally.
MR.. BEECHER's CONFESSIONS.
q. You nave given considerable statement OF
what Mr.. Beecher SAID to you-were you saying
nothing 10 him during the progress OF that state
ment to your A. said greas deal to him.
@ During the progress OF the statements A.
Q. Now, won't you be so coed as to give me how
the statement went on; who spoke first and what
was said by way OF answers and so OnY A. Mr.
Beecher spoke first; he said he had had Sleep
less night; that ne had not had much est that
he was utterly without nope and that he thought
he must have the sympathy and consolation or
some friend, and as | was the only person who
knew the truth OF TINS thing he came TO me.
near az / can remember expressed my sympa-
wEnI language A. | said, '.Mr Beecner am
very sorry for you In this great trouble, but
there is only one way ont OF II for you, ana that
continue this life Of deception and hypocrisy !;
the truth wiz come out sooner or later.
aS T cont as SSn 10R Heh Sa ess
q. And II you stopped there what did he say ?
A. He said hs could not confess II because Its
continue In his position as a spiritual and moral
teacher there was nothing left for him to do; Tor
with them If he confessed his crime; that he
would have 20 home, and that his people would
not i0rgYe him.
Q. Wen, did you speak then and say something ?
A. said thought they would forgive him; tGa.
he had done a great deal OF good IN the world and
that his church was bound TO him as one m,,n al a.
most, and thought they would stand bv MIN: he
said. mo. that Is crime they won't Irrglye they
won't treat me as generously and kindly as you
have dOne.h
O. DID you then say something A. don't re-
metnoer the conclusion; we were taking or q long
tlme-three OF iour hours; on his part 1t was one
long account OF what he had suffered. and that ne
had tired to go on sad that he could not endure it
any longer; that ne elt that tmeauing the TRUTH
would come out, aud that he could not live to
meet itthat he had not the strength either pnysi-
Caliy or mentally.
In regard TO the powder which Mr.. Beecher said
ne mad al home on his dressing table, the witness
stated that Mr.. Beecher said 1t was dose that
would give no pain, not instant death, hut a very
easy death.
z. Well, how did the interview come to an end?
A. tie said IL was near his dinner hour and In.
Vlted Vim 70 stay TO lunch, but he said mother
would expect him.
Q. whom did he mean by mother, A. His wife.
Ipresume.
Q. Was that his usual mode OF referring to his
whey A. Yes, sir.
z. DID ne leave In the same gloomy state that