The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-15

/ U Dld ron explain tnht 70 hlmf "A. ulu;
| don't know that explained 1t; poured IL ovel
him; | gave an explanation, not so much by Al
analysis ana biz OF items and statements as the
more free 10 speak and let my feelings out.
2. That Is, that the Information which you gol
nom Bessie Turner you used to the prejudice o
TiltonS A. That | mad lent my ear TO 1t and had
advised Bowen with regard to ~; that believed
/ practicable Tor Bowen TO keep him on the Ildepel
DENT and probably not on the Brooklyn Union.
z, Didn'tyou advise him IN regard TO the Ilde
pendent In reference TO the articles which he had
written and which you knew OF 2 A. don't rec0l
\ lect now as regards tnat
q. Did not you advise Bowen with reference TO the
continuation OF Tllton's services on the Brooklyn
Union In view or the ldiosyncrasies and peculiarl
! ties OF Mr.. 1Iton which you ade personal OBJ
servatons OF in the year prior to that interview
i with regard to the continuance OF Tilton on the
BROOKLYN Uaio1s3 A.. Yes, Ia the light Of bis pc.
/ cuarltles, not OF d0ctrlnal statements or oil
socialist statements, bur In the light or my expe-
r1ence oil him as manager, and especially as a
co operative worker In party or In cause.
Q. Did Mr. Moulton convince you on the 1st oil
June, Notwithstanding your own observations and
for the Brooklyn Union7 A. He convinced me in
so far as the reasons were moral.
Q. What moral reasons were there OF your
knowledge that induced you TO advise Bowen that
ne was not man he should continue on the
Usion2 A That he was tainted man ia his
moral character; that was partly tue reason; tue
conversation related TO Dotn papers.
O. Did he convince you that Bessie Turner's
stories were talses A. Twas satisfied that she had
made . mistake.
O. DID he convince you that Bessie Turner's
stories were untruef A. Yes; lielt thas sne was
o. You thought she might have been deceived
in ner story OF Tilton carrying her IN bis arms
from her own room to his rooms A. Yes, In the
construction she put upon IL.
O. Taat she was deceived In that expression
that the love he alluded TO was a. natural as kiss
ing or caressingg A. was satisfied she mad mis-
apprehended him.
O. Were you satisfied from Moulton's re presenta-
tlon that no such tn'ng mad occurredf A; don't
think went 70 That extent was ss;,sne as snas
Q. now could Moulton have convinced you of
this thing whom lie knew nothing oil IL himself?
A. From his own knowledge.
O. But he was not present? A. No.
o. What argument did mouton use that day to
convince you the stories were ialsef A. He ad-
mIsted that something or that KIND might have
familiarity; that there was nothing IN IL, had IT
not been Tor Mrs. Morse that she had given o
motive for II aud had made Bessie Turner think
worss or IL than II shc had been left TO herself and
the matter left to her own CONSTRUCTION.
z. Did ne tell you he knew tnats A. No.
a. Did you not ask hims A. did not.
q. Were you not anxious to find out the basis OF
his Judgments A. was not.
@ Ana therefore asked no questions' A. No.
O. Did he convince you that Tilton had not
abused MS vile as represented by Mrs. lilt0n and
Mrs. Morses A. AS regards that have distinct
recollection that he said Tllton was man OF
genius something like that; ne alluded TO his
moods ana peculiar mental constitution. that nc
was q nasty man, that In mis- moods he might do
Improper things, but that there never was more
tendcr-hearied man; that MIS- vile could lead hin
II; that no was kind husband and father to his
family and was a good provider Tor them; he as
severated IN the most emphatic ana unmistakahle
terms that he was IN MS home an excellent, kind
husband and father.
Q. Hna you believed all thats A. Yes
q. Did you not say awning in vlndication OF
yourself 10 Moulton on thus occasion-that you mad
been sent for by Tl'on's wife and her morner, and
tel him Of Lne terrible stories you mad heard from
themY A. don't recolecs doing so.
Q. Did you say word TO Moulton denying the
charges brought against you OF improper ad-
az
q. III what language aid you deny IT. A. 1
don't know.
A. The general conversation that took tnat DRIFT.
Q. You told him the charge was false : A. Yes.
u. Was the term improper advances uscdf A.
don't rec0llect that that phrase was used.
q. Was tue term imp. oper solicitations used or
some Kindred term a: the subject Of improper
IN what phrase | cannot says tne subject was
talked about between us-chIeny by hun.
O. Under what circumstances was anything put
in writing that day A. He said az the close or
the intervew-ae remarklng tue strength or my
feelings OF sorrow aud regrot-that " Theodore
could see VIVA ne saw ana ar wat he heard, aud
lf he knew w felt, ne wa certain tnat AZ would
remove MS enmity toward me and he said 10 me,
ssMny don't you write this 10 11toni IL will Dring
ali the mischief 10 an emu; ne thinks you are mis-
enemy ano lnJurng hmi' hestated moment,
then declined to 10 TINS; lie urged me again tina {
II would be very satisfactory thing II he could
make resentatlon 70 Theodore oil my real ais
position, ana finally said TO MIN, Nv ell, make q
MEMORANDUM oil II YOURSELF aud ne TOOK the pen
aud sat down and commenced making memo
randum; | walked TO anc fro, and occasionally he
would stop AMI make me repeat something had
said, asking me, with some emphasis, II had
said so aud so; would check myself Tor mo-
ment and make some reply, | gong over In
thought the points IN our preceding converse tion
concerning my feelings toward Mr.. Triton.
q. Did Jon state 10 him taat you gave him the
memorandum 10 confidence and trustf A. NO, SIR.
O. Did Moult0n write those words OF his own vo.
ntion, 'In trust with Y. ID. MouItonW A. know
o. Did you not want him TO report your feelings
and sentiments on that occasion In your own
languagef A. No; should nave mad no ODecti n
n he could have used them, but dtd not expect
he would attempt II, except here and there some
D. Wny aid you not examine the paper 10 see II
he mad reported you well or III A, relied upon
him.
q DID you not fear he might have said some
thing you wOul1 not De wiling 70 fathert A. ola
not; lie Was 10 nave reported my words lu sub
stance, and trusted him as o man OF discretion,
who would make fair report. with sucn speclfica.
+ tons as might appear proper TO him.
z. You were ignorant OF the form 10 which he
clothed that report-with the sanitation, my
dear friend MOultoagl A. | was
q. Did you make any expression OF this kind
"taat yon BUNDLED yourself before Theodore Til
ton as you would humble yourself before God -
A. used a general statement OF the kind, that
before Goa and would not be ashamed 10 humble
myself before Theodore T,lton.
z. You dOn't think the injurT you were charged
VITA was immoral conduct with his wife A.
don't recollect that came into conversation; dur
ing the conversation ! was inclined 20 think that
mad done great injustice TO TIlLon.
o. WHAT was your opinion as 10 tho On srge that
was made against you-lid you think II was made
IN good OF bad laiSn A. My conclusion was that
TiiTon mad reason 70 make that cnarge-that / had
acted wrong toward nls househofd.
q. In Improper advances A. In improper adj
vauccs.
Y improper solicitations A. Improper solicit.
tatIonA
q low did you tEinI ne came 10 that conclu
sion A. From his wlie's written statement.
a. You didn't tnlnk that statement was coerced
from herr A. don't know what you mean by the
word 'eocrce"-coerce means In violent way.
q. Dld Iou believe ~ was Obtained through i'm.
portunity, when sne was wearJ OF importantly
aud weakened Dy sickness A. nad no doubt
that " had been procured from her when she was
weak ana SICK, ana by persistent Inquiry.
u And you thought that sue had told a false hood
to Mr.. Tton ABOUT u, did you A. certainly did.
q Ana you renamed oil that opinion throughout
all the day-New Years Day-whe this paper was
being prepared, did Jour A. Yes; during the
time mat that was 10 preparation.
q. Then Jon supposed that Hilton was acting Ia
good iaith ia making tDls charge against you, did
yOus A. supposed ne had reason TO think had
ueen the WrOnger oil MS family.
q. Yes. Then viii ask you again, Mr.. Bcecher,
when you came TO that conclusion that MRS Tilton
had told 4 fafcenOOd about IT and that Mr.. Tufon