The Morning herald., 1875-09-15
CHARLIE ROSS.
THE TRIAL OF WESTERVELT.

I first told Supt. Walling in the first part
of September where Mosher and Douglass
lived in this city,. informed him of the
horse and wagon had seen here and also OF
all parties l knew them to be acquainted with
here; they were man named Thomson, who
lived in Clifford street, his brother-in-law, a
man named Gilbert, who had kept a saloon
at the corner of Eighth and Girard avenue.
l told him of the Morrisses; but they were
not here at the time; the way knew Mosh-
er had been in Trenton, Mosher and Doug
lass went to Stromberg's saloon one morn
ing in September; did not know they were
coming; after being there a few moments
Douglass said they were goin g to get pa
per; Mosher said, "No, have got paper;
here is one got in Trenton;" 1 noticed at
The time that Mos hers shoes were covered
with this country dust and Douglass were
not; told Superintendent Walling that day
that I had seen them and from the conver-
sation Mosher had been to Trenton; told
him thought he had been on the outskirts
from the dust on his shoes;
l told officer Sellick and Titus of my getting
letter, but never gave that letter thought
after sending it, except that ! did not get
the money; at the time spoke to them
about the letter Officer Sellick, Titus and
myself stood together, and they told me if
it was there to try to get it; before the kill
ing of Mosher, Douglass Walling, had
tol me that letters were being received and
answered in the personals; he did not tell
me they were supposed to be in the hand
writing of Mosher; he asked me if had
any letters of Bills that had received from
him; l told him never remembered receiv.
ing one from him; could not say whether
this conversation was before my trip with
Mosher and Douglass up to Rondout; up to
the killing of these men should judge I
had had upwards of fifty interviews with
Walling; when the interview, in which the
personal of "Saul of Tarsus" was spoken
Of, occurred, was working on the Eighth
avenue cars, in November, and was waiting
for my car to be rung off, and picked up the
Herald and saw this personal; the wording
of that personal afterwards drew my atten-
tion; this is the wording believe; "We have
performed our part to the letter; you have
again broken faith; we will have no more
trifing; action must he Simultaneous"
had never seen that personal either in print
or in manuscript before l saw. it in the
Herald that day, nor had any knowledge
who it was intended for; thought at the
time it had something to do with this case. j.
1.-THE testimony here goes on to give an
account of several interviews the accused
had with the detectives, in regard to the
personal, but there is lo.hing of eonse-
quence in It'll
did not know. of my own knowledge be-
fore either of these interviews what that
personal was, or from info! ma ion from
anybody else. X :, = ':S' f
He had told. Wa,lfpg1x five different
times before the fore part Of. November. that
he had seen Mosher 'a1fdt.Douglass. In re-
ply to question as TO- whether he had de-
hied in the fore part QfNovember having
seen them, the witness replied l don't re-
member anyH such conversation !, 1 never
said to him that 7 saw them in the street
near the Washington mlrket, attempted to
follow them, they took a. stage and went
down town, and suspected them of taking
the cars to 60 to see the child somewhere
near Trenton; did tell him in the early
part Of Octoberthat ! saw them on Broadway
and attempted to fellow them, but lost themi
! did hot in November ask ;:Walling whether
he had placed any onsfto watch me in the
early part of October was at Stromburg's
saloon and wv officer Doyle standing on the
opposite corner; walked towards where he
was standing and he ran away thought
It was strange ! l recollected seeing him the !
same morning when. was coming out of
nv house standing on the corner !, aftef"he
had run away walked down to the OTHER,
corner, and was very near opposite to him