The anti-monopolist. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1874-1878, 1875-04-15

any other way, say to him that you saw
no hope for yourself since that story had
been published! A. No, sir.
Q..Did you say any thing in connection
with the subject. or how did you express
yourself, if at all A. don't remem-
Der; | only remember what did not say.
@. Nothing of that kind was said by
you in regard to yourself? A. No. sir.
MoULToN's INTERVIEW WITH HALLIDAY.
@ In connection with Moulton's re-
porting to you that interview, or any ref.
erence to these interviews taking place
before it took place, did anything Of this
kind occur between you and Moulton-
that Moulton was not to help Halliday to
the facts. A. No, sir; no, sir; he did
not want to tell him any more than | did.
ANOTHER LETTER TO MRS. TILToN.
Witness was shown an undated letter
from himself to Mrs. Tilton, which he
said was written within three or four
weeks after the publication of the Wood
hull scandal. / think Moulton suggested
it, saying it would be agreeable to Tilton
if [ would address to his wife note of
sympathy. He said that if wrote
note of sympathy, addressed to her, de-
nying that believed in the matter. he
thought it would be agreeable to both
Mr.. and Mrs. Tilton. and [ wrote this
letter and handed it to Moulton, who was
not satisfied with it. He said that he
had sent it. He told me afterwards of
the view from which had written, as I
had explained it to him. | found after /
left it with him. and when I saw him
again, that they had expected that |
would write letter Of denial to Mrs.
Tllton, and l wrote that.
PROPOSED PUBLIC DENIAL.
Mr.. Beccher testifes that in the latter
part of December, 1872, there was con-
ference with reference to public.
denial of the the scandal, which
took place at Moulton's house. The
parties to the conference were Mr.. Tilton,
Mrs. Tilton and myself in the Immediate
conversation, and in the preparatory
stages of it, Moulton. Moulton said, to
me that Tilton had plan he thought by
which he could make some form of
statement that would clear him Of the
imputations that we're resting upon him,
and at the same time that the whole mat
ter could be set in such way before the
publ: as would be for the furtherance of
the interests all around. had been re-
qucsted to prepare aletter of denial to
accompany statement, if one should be
made, and Mrs. TiltoB was to make de-
NAL also, to 60 with the same statement.
1t was when letters of this kind were up
hot Mrc
TILroN's TRUE STORY.
Later than that Moulton told me Tilton
would come and read a statement that he
had prepared. | had heard nothing of it
except that he was preparing something.
| asked Moulton what it was. He said he
did not know: he had not read it HIM
self, but Tilton would read it to him and
me that night. So I went
there Ito Moulton's ROOM to
the ireading. Tilton began--sit-
ting on the sofa-to fix his papers, and
opened the matter to me by saying that
there was one single sentence that if
could stand. he thought should be able
to stand the awhole document, and then
commenced reading what was called after
ward the True Story, and read on until
he came to that passage in which | was
charged with asking Mrs. Tilton to be a
wife to me, with all implied in that term,
and he looked up and said, shat is the
sentence that if you can stand, the read
ing Of the document won't hurt you
made no reply. 1 was lying on the bed,
think. He went on reading. getting
madden and madden, and when he had fin
ished, got up and began to walk around
the ROOM, and said nothing, but finally
think he or Moultor asked me what
had to say. Murmurs of applause.
replied: mir. Tilton. it is not for me
to say what you shall or what you shall
not say. but | want you to understand, if
you publish that statement, and that sem
teace in it, | will not stand--will not
agree to it. and it is the end. | will not
have any such statement as that come
out and not meet it peremptorily. At
that he gathered himself up. lion-like. his
face flushed. and he began to storm very
loudly on the subject, and Moulton took
him in hand instantly. and | drew back
out Of it. and the lion and tiger had the
fight by themselves. 1t was good lively
discussion. Part Of the time Moulton
was in the asccndency, and part of the
time Tilton had the best of it. and i:
went on for q considerable period, and
ended unsatisfactory to all Of us. That
was the substance of that inter-
view. l heard them diplomatize
for some time and then left before they
concluded their discussion. / never again
saw or heard read that paper: it was new
err again brought before me or to nv no.
tice by Tilton or Moulton.
THE PUBLIC DENIAL AGAIN.
Counsel recurring to the council held
the last of December, 1872. as mentioned
above. Mr.. Beecher testified:
That interview was held in the back
chamber Of Moulton's second story: an
appointment had been made for it by
Moulton. went for the purpose of ex-
changing or rather comparing and ADJUST
ing letters. for publication if it should
seem best. can't recall whether Moul-
ton was present at the first or MOI, sir. II
he was he left. Tilton and myself were
left. Mrs. Moulton being in and out, and
| think it was desired to have Mrs. Til