The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-07

or bias toward either party.
YORK HERALD ~ Morrlstown ABOUT once or twice
week; went there in September and returned in
October; have avoided reading everything about
this controversy; had too much business to read
ali the articles through; had not even read the
parties about IT, but took no part in IL mad known
Mr.. Morris, one OF the counsel, VINO had acted as
counsel for ms brother; was once introduced 70
this case; do business Tor Judge Perrepont, OF
New YORK. and three or four others; did business
q With whom did you do business' A. The
Z. What was his nameS A. Well transacted
my business with the secretary.
q. II was the secretary A. believe 1t was.
q. Have you done much with the secretaryp
A. have done more or less business with all OF
q. What was the name OF the secretary A. Mr..
Firm, but never saw above one or two men there
q, What other ofncers OF that company can you
nameY A. Mr.. Wood, Mr.. Ems.ie, and the secretary.
q. Take the next insurance company A.
transact business more or less with chem.
Q. Name the individuals you metz A. 1 don't
know that can; transact business mainly with
Q. You can recollect somef A. can recollect
Mr.. Belts, OF the continental
q; Can you recolect any body in the Pm enix'
Q. You were looking at some memor anda just
waay was t Sr Yes s the men
with whom you have had some considerable ousi'
ness A. Yes, sir.
with them9 A. have transacted business win
the Pn9nlx Company for the past fourteen or If
Q. Can you name anybody with whom you trans
acted financial business in connection with this
cOmpanyS A. Steven Cornell
Q. How long ago was tnatP A. would not be
positive as'to that; know he used TO pay my rent
Q. How long ago was thats A. think 1t was
In 1866; it was when the property was sold.
@. Have you done anything for the Phoenix Com
Yes Yes sir. "'' ''D''' " - DD'ns '-' ''''
Q. how many transactionsf A. One; when 1
returned from Morristown.
Q. What was the nature Of iJf A. 1t was simply
renewal sent to my office.
z. DID you do any business with Mr.. Hlerrepont
before this Year, A. Yes, Sir.
Y. Did you see him and pay rent to him during
q. When dld you do business with Mr.. Green.
wood lastg A. settled with Mr.. Greenwood
@. Simply pay money you have collected for
Q: When did you last do business with Mr.. Am
ler9 A. think 1t was about the 18th or 20th.
@. Simply TO send him checkH A. Yes, SIR;
monthly, for four or i've years.
the Oourt.-Nlow me to suggest that this ex.
make inquiries with regard to him.
Mr. filthy object is to enable me to know
prevent him giving attention to newspapers when
this controversy was published in them.
q. Who else have YOU done business with last
year? A. 1t would be utterly impossible for me 10
@ Now do you mean. Mr.. Mackay. that these
business transactions occupied you SO much as to
give you no tune to read newspapersf A. Yes
Sir; generally look at the real estate transac-
O. Did you p ever read the editorials In the pa.
q: Did you read anything in the newspapers
O. Did you read anything else, A. Yes, anything
interesting If 1t was Q little short: AU
Q; Did you generally Judge OF IL by the lengthf
Q, what else did you reads A. Gold market and
q. Are you interested in the gold market per-
sonaly A. NO, STR.
YOU devote to TINS business A. i don't suppose
Sit IN my ONCE more than two hours during the
q. Is that the whole amount Of time devoted to
your buslnessf A. NO. sir.
2. Are you married man A. No, sir.
Q. Have you ever been married A. No, sir.
4. DO you attend any churcn or religious organi-
cation OF any kind A. No, sir; sometimes 60
Q. DO you go to any church in your neighbor.
hoodY A. | go to Mr.. lalmage's. ~.
Q. DO you 60 70 lalmage's generally A. No,
q: lid you go to Talmage's cnurchs A. No. sir;
bad little interest IN selling him the property
there.
Q. That Is. the church which was burned DOWN.
Q. We're you tnere9 A. Yes I went, but got
out pretty quick.
Q: Did You go TO the church or to the fret A.
Q. Did you not 90 to the church because OF the
IRE, or because you heard the alarUf A. l live
five or SIX blocks from the church.
=. Did you hear the alarm before you got to the
churchr A. No. sir.
Q. Where do you liver A. NO. SIS Fulton street.
q. Who preached that morningP A. DR.. Tai
mage.
q. You recollect that fact DISTINCTLY A. Yes sir.
O. Is that as far as you can recollectp We want
your recollection about It, Do you remember with
any accuracy who was present that morning. A.
q. Name them. A. could name them, hut the
parties can't be found now; don't know where to
pace them.
q. You can name only individuals who can't be
foundY A. suppose they could be found.
z. Did Mr.. Morris attend divine service that
morning? A. can't remember.
M. MOrris-l was not there that morning Mr..
Q. Had you been in the church before it took
fire? A. That could not tell
Q. Was the church full OF peoplef A. Yes sir;
Q. Generally crowded, is It nots A. Yes, sir.
Y; Did you have any business there that morn
&. You simply went to church, A. Yes, sir.
q. Now, sir, don't you know that that church
caught fire before ten O'Clock on Sunday morning'
Q. WI you swear it did not, A. No, sir.
Y WIN You swear that you went there at all
O. We're you inside or the church! A. Yes, str
stayed there an hour.
not say DR.; Talmage preached; the church was
fun OF pc ype don't know DR.. falmage.
Q somebody preached the sermon there that
O. TO. whom you iisteneds A. Yes sir the
church know was crowded.
Mr.. Shearman-I suggest to the gentlemen on
the other side that we shoulu hardly press upon
the juror to testify to tact which every one in
this court room KNOWS.
Judge Neilson-I don't know anything about 1t.
We have beard enough on that subject, Mr.. Hill
Mr. Hill-Q. Where else do you 60 to church, A.
Several places. -.
O. Name them A. I have been to Or. Halls
church, the Holy Trinity
q Within how longf A. could not say.
q. Which DR.. Hallf A. At the Church Of the
holy Trinity.
Q. What others9 A. DR.. Cuyler's
Y. one other? A. | could not say sir; can't
Keep rack Of those things.
O. Within Year, A. Oh, yes.
O. Where else! A. Different places.
q Name them A. Sometimes to German
church on the heights.
@. On Henry streetY A. Yes, sir.
Z. When did you go there? A. A short time ago.
q. Where else2 A. Other churches; l could not
n anne all 20 TO.