New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-08

advocated the bin simply IN the interest of law aud
tons in office which have attracted the attention Of the
entire civilized world.
SPEECH OF Mr. SCHUYLER.
Mr.. Schuyler made several quotations from the COnsi
tuition and laws to show the power of removal by the
Governor Of sheriGs, &C. had been freely granted He
in favor of the absolute removal OF Canal Commits
zioners State Engineers and State Prison INSPECTOR
they ore disbursng officers
Speaker McGuire-Wnl the gentleman say whether
the warrant OF the Controllers
Mr.. schuyler-Certainy not
Speaker McGureThen why not include the Controllers
Mr. schuyler-We these other officers provide for the
III then said he would agree TO the provisions Of the
Senat" hill for trying the other officials, hut the Canal
Srnnnv m e fed 70 be p resent Trials If
JUDGES showing the long time occupied in them and
money He urged prompt action, saying the people de-
handed and concluded by saying. John Browns body
lies moldcring in the grave John Browns soul goes
marching on
SPEAKER M'GCTRE's ARGUMENT.
Mr. Mcclure followed He said he had expected that in
supporting ths bill appeal would be made TO treason
10 the state and such, he said the as the gen
ueman makes appeal by citing the treason 10 the
State of John Brown He then alluded TO the argument
made that the Governor great big wheel and all
other branches Of the Government were but little
wheels. He also Thought it strange that
knew the effect Of despotism in Liz native
country should here and advocate that dePric'hle
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the reference TO the power of the Governor Ia remove
sherf &C, and asked where the Governor got that
power from Why, said he from the people. aud when
the people gave this power tO the Governor tcy with
held it with reference to these state officers They
fused give the Governor this additional AMI great
power. But there one OF those a0-called small
wheels" which did not eecapee the attention OF the
But oven in that the people would not
allow the Governor 10 remove mat Official! Ihey allowed
called Reform came up sith the clam Of necessity;
TINS he added. was always the I.wOuld bc found
through all history, When the rights or the
people to he invaded. IL is always dome under
me specious plea of necessity Tyranny has always
necessity. Republics had been DESTROYED under ads
Iervadng this principle which sought to be estah.
ished aud that was that the King can do no wrong"
was he hoped perfectly apparent to all And vet 1t
woud seem il there were those here who thnk me
stood that he spoke Of the Governor OF To-
day. aud NOT OF the Governor Of ndty
Convent Of 1916, wl the Governor stripped Of
all thee rover WGa ,s nov , os ~ 10 rSes
that Convention and learn what was the opinion oI te
people at that time be believed they would moi now be
standing here asking that the Governor be rcinvescd
with those powers lie referred 10 the fact that The
people were unwilling to trust .eoTge Wa ts
ton with powers without having them clearIy
defined in written Constitution. There
been nothing the people have been so jcalous Of
They will pass out of their hands their power over
their officials SO me pt"die o. ts stee ~ erDr Or
clearly they have those OF the other State officers He
then read from the Constitution me powers ana
stitittiop is that the Governor shall see nat the
laws properly executed We find that none of these
ged nal frauds could have occurred Il The laws were
executed Then why has not the Governor gong on and
that these laws were executed instead OF eomirS
let us he said throttle liberty order Ia dowhat now
under existing laws. lie said the people Of the
cure self-govenment and yet al this late day are
asked to sacrifice that Whlch the Coonsts sacrificed 40
said, that the Governor does not AK for th, ,s
D L TINS Far "h snsc ff h"y aid d0rce mot 'e want
force law upon the Governor II he docs pot want Il
He read from The Arrs as the Governors organ, the
whether he wanted or not was not the question here
It is duty he said TO not pass IT, No Goyernor would
disgrace to the Democratic party TO bring up such
proposition. 1t was federalism LGre and simple lie
tSn to O give the Mayor Of NewYorE The
nower OF removal and this one In the case Of the
Mayor that onei had the power Of appointment hut
not Of removal without the consent OF the Governor
The Governor was unwilling to yield this controlling
Ut any other official who had me power OF a
pSgh1 70 have S the E Of remoVa lie then
TO discuss The provisions on ths ms. ne ASKED
the Controller, Secretary Of state and Treasurer
by the senate, and allow the state Engineer and CANA
Commissioners he tried in secret and summary
removed IT. Is claimed that the latter are spending
officials but they are not because not cent can go OUT
of the Treasury without the signature OF the Controller
aud Treasurer and vet these last mentioned officers NAV
he tried by the senate. and others not. What an
absurdtya preposterOus absurdiiy Again IL Is SAID
the senate is political body Is not the Governor
political represe ntative You take Senator ont OF the
senate and elect him Governor Docs that purify nm
an AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION NEEDED.
Mr. Seward expressed his belief that neither the
Public Works Inspector, nor the State officer Removal
bills are going 10 effect the reforms which it had
been his pleasure advocate and sustain here. The
true and only way be thought 10 consumnate the re-
FORM was by amendment 10 the organic law Of the
STATE Such an amendment pending in both Houses.
and he hoped II would yet pass NeverheIess, az ne
WIS DESTROYS Of aiding any movement which looted IN
the right dir eetOn lie felt 1t hs duty 10 support the
MY T. C. Campbell argued that there nothing
In tie proposition 10 persons elected to ONCE 10y
the sovereign voice OF me people I,s "1 done III th
eases Of slerifs and dstrictitornry- lie SUSTAINED
the removal by the GOy'r0r OF Lhe can Officers, ana
the supervision by the Governor aud I'a ny the senate
OF the other officers.
Mr. AvoId moved 10 make the bin the special order for
this aftetnO AT o'clock Carried. o...-
The House easscmblcd at y. M, and III Committee
resumed consideration Of the State Officer Removal Bill.
M Edson spoke IN favor OF the Absolute Removal bi
SPEECH OF MIR. ALvORD.
Mr. Alvord then took the floor. and argued that our
system Of government. from Its foundation. recognize
the principle that people belonged the sovereignty
BE reviewed history Of the ste and the successive
steps taken by the people through their several COnstu
tonaI Conventions Under the lead Of Michael Hoffman,
hc said the Democracy of the State took away from tie
Governor the power appoint the leading state officials
Convention the Democratic party, headed by
such the Clnc JudRt OF oul state ana the ait
arnenfrd editor Of ihs Albany Argus stood with united
fGnt shoulder TO shoulder, AGAINST any change OF the
existing manner Of choosing state officers lie c0nsld-
eI ed therefore that s Legislature has no right Ia take
away from The people the power e1veu to them by The
Tie action successfully taken by the
people wac sufficient to guide him IN ms action on these
bills We not here, he aid, TO guide public opinion
huI TO follow IT, The people select the they 10
act Tor them C.niIO'r and they do not want any
pover 10 interfere with their choice. And 20 II II with
tie other officers They mako their choice, and they
want NO secret unc-fIIHu interference WIN That
oni3er under any CIRCUMSTANCES. lie Governor re-
moves she1iHs and other minor public officials,
aud why H. he empowered To Remove those Odiciisf
ecae Il would Tx possible OcsLablish impeachment
conrt. in oil The variOus counties O the state He too
lar removed from h Uiical and well be trusted
with this power There analogy between these
oficcrs and the Stale officers You give the Governor
this er where he asked the liberties ~ the
a .l,a furf