New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-13

h,sown suggestion he does not say IL was upon your
suggestion; and then being asked this question: ANA
what was said by Mr. Beecher In regard 10 that ac'
that is submitting 1t TO Mr. Tracy Mr. Mouton answers
Gle approved Of it, and 1t comes out In e neA' q'o'
ton and answer q little moro tlly:
O. What did he SAY and what did yOu say 10 NM a
said him had submitted tho paper to MI aacg
and he said nothing further In regard " IL; dOnt To
member that he made any repV.
which perhaps does away-I don't know how that is
but do you recognize any conversation between you ana
Mr.. Mouton to this paper having boon submitted 10
Gen Tracy and your approval of 1t having boon dono'
A. 1t may very easily havo becn Sir, but don't recall
any such circumstance. There were good many meet
ings and there were good many stages. Before the
Bacon letter there card. you know. prepared In
nticipatOn-anticipaory card-which was afterward
modified, and attempted think to be made the basis OF
this other one and an not clear In my recollection
about that know there woro many interviews and
many suggestions and tentative forms produced, ana
before the Bacon ettcr was published was not ndis-
posed to consider IT, but after 1t was published was in
disposed.
@. Now, Sir do you remember Mr.. MOulton reporting
to you any such interview between himself and Gen.
Tracy thsa A. don't remember it. Sir.
@. As thisi A. OH beg pardon.
| O. This which now state to you:
Imct Mr.. Beccher July the 9th, think. ana said
We Mr.. Ececer, YOU have not uttered from your pu-
pit anywhere given uteranco to the words that pre-
sions y and he said "No, you advised silence particl-
larly" Eyes" said al advised silence, but hin yom
and said At tie Friday evening prayermeetng your
church seemed to be in entire sympathy win YOU ana
think Won might have ayacd yourself OF mat ocus 1
TO have made that expression" And me said, We'll !
am not to blame for that l9n advised Silence ana
| have followed The course yOu advsed'
And then this card is put in evidence that you have
lust had in your hands, and the witness proceeds and 1t
IL to this part that wish to call your attention partcu
larly
| | had a subsequent conversation with Mr.. Bcecher
OH md ian a1
corning reply to the Bacon letter, aud that had asS
said to Mr. Beecher that Mr. Tracys reply was that he
handiWork and that Gen Tracy had said that the
words have committed no crime (which is part OF
this card quoted from it-rcally said n0hlng IN dcnia
o. bo tnG ,ct TACT b Si Tp and Mr. Betcior
ihc witness cOrrects hims -f or Mr. Beecher anu
her The words he said have committed crime" I'D
not anything, because adultery was no crime hde
and said to him that had told Cen Tracy that did
not think that good ohicctiOn that thought the
community would accept that cgd rs distinct denial
that uttcIince rather that that uerancc wonld be az
cepted by the community distinct denial ana tlat ~
ought be made suc nj lcrahcc should ne inie
since Bccccr asscntcdsincc Mr. Tilion aSsentcd TO
peace il that utcrance made, or II silence was Kept
O. Now. Mr. Beccher, do you remember aconycr'ation
In which Mr. Mou,t0n brought to your attention an IN
tcrview that he hid had with Gen. Tracy the subject
of the force and effect OF this card A. Ihave no distinct
recollection OF any such statement as is made there
O. What was the objection that YOU stated to the pub
LEGATION OF that card A. My objection was that AFTER
the publication OF the Bacon letter nobody could under
stand the ocnscor everybody was at liberty to under
stand the oese as they pleased certainly, that 1t was
that had improper advances toward Mrs Tllton,
| and wouldn't stand 1t.
Q. And you would make no publication that contained
that adinssiont A. would not agree to any such state
mcnt would not sign any such statements would have
nothing to do with anything that could so misead the
public.
O. Now whether the word crime" used or not in
either Of tho conversations that Moulton had with YOU
preceding following tho publication OF the Bacon leu
ter Was there at that time any suggestion or lntnaoh
from Mr. Moulton that the charge against you was any
other or different from what had been the subject OF
imputation-the improper advancesi A. That was what
he understood and what he conveyed to me, and what
understood
O. 20 that the announcement made to you by Mr. Red
path as coming from TitOn and Moulton, that they
intended charge adultery the first notice OF ta
impntaiion or charge their partf A. II was the flrs
abatement TO me; It was the lrst time suspect that 1t
was ever thought OF
O. Well, the first statement 10 yOuf A Al any ite'
knew it then for the time part Of their plan