The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-06-07

for the third term. he says that he does not want
the once the third time any more than be did the
first; but the gross abuses and ouLrages that were
porpetrated to secure his reelection gave the
American people just notion OF his previous In
difference to the honors and emoluments or the
Presidency
"Do You think General Grant is particularly
anxious to emulate Washington except far as
MS length or service is concerned ~
"No, and am convinced that II is quite al sac
religious 70 violate the example OF Washington
and his most illustrious successors, with refer
ence to the third term as II would be TO trample
upon vital constitutional principle, and the lnti-
nation that circumstances could control his
action In that respect betrays his utter unntness
for the LOFTY position he occupies The American
people, educated by their bitter experience OF the
last ten years. are osinclined to tolerate
even second term.n
TIE nERALp's CHARGES SUSTAINED.
| "Do you think the letter bears out the orr nal
charges OF the HERALD that were 1rst SO gener-
ally sneered at ~
most decidedly. That letter serves 10 convince
| the most sceptical that mis- designs upon a third
/ term have all along been serious. The saving
clauses the contingencies possibilities &C.,
| which no so silly and conveniently alludes TO,
show that the matter OF his reelection for a third
term has been seriously entertained by President
Grant.u
do you think this missive changes his at
titude before the people FAR his reeigibility
is concerned7n
"You mean whether 1t puts him out OF the polit-
ical field Certainly NOT IL leaves him IN
exactly the same position In which he Was before
the letter was written. He will stu be regarded
as possible candidate by the horde OF once
holders who will undoubtedly attempt 10 control
the next conventions
"Do you think such an attempt may prove sue
cessfu?p
BRIsTow's CHANCES
1t Is impossible to say. Some streng current
OF popular feeling may defeat the purpose OF the
ofice-nolders and put Brstow in the field. He
would undoubtedly be the strongest possible can
dIdate for the republican party, and unless the
record OF the next democratic Congress is per-
Iectly clear ana unexce ptionaple ne might pos
slbly be elected"
4 .'Do you think General Grant could ever after
this letter force hts denomination ~
''Yes think he could II the popular current
set that way; IL would depend many clrcum-
stances. Popular currents are very strong when
once in motion. II ne we're nominated in any
case think he would accept ana would be over
whclmingly defeated"
"Do you think any portion OF the republican
party desires General Grants reelection ~
WHO WANTS GRANrp
mo, not outside OF the ofice-hoders and the
pensioners on the bounty OF the government in
general" (witn = strong impulse OF conviction.
! II desire to add In this connection that think
there will be terrible ngnt In the next Congress
on the question OF railroad and other subsidies;
and If the democraticr Congress does not come
unstained out OF the ordeal 1t will share the ig-
nomnious fate or the last. II the democrats COM
mir that fatal error, while the republicans display
desire for continued reforms, BristoW might be
elected.u
VIEWS OF SENATOR THURMAN AND SENATOR
cIAYToN-GRANT AND THE FIRST TERM
WASHINGTON, June 6, 1875.
senator Thurman left for Columbus tonight pre-
paratory to taking an active part in the coming
campaign In Ohio. During the past week he has
been occupied and fatigued in changing his home,
having purchased the residence adjoining The
\ house OF Governor Mccormick. his son-in-aw,
which he has had remodelcd and rented. The
care incident to this labor has prevented the
Senator from thinking over seriously the subject
OF Grants third term letter, but to-day he again
examined IL critically and, as he does not belong
TO the school OF Minnesota Christian state smen,
ne was not adverse TO talking politics. IL is
q fact not generally know that Senator Humans
views OF Grants ambition antedate the national
discussion or the third term question. IL was
In November, 1872, wlrnin twenty days after the
reelection OF Grant that Judge Thurman said, at
political conference held in Columbus, that
Grant would seek denomination for third term
ana would urge IL just as strongly he did a sec
ond. lie believed it then FOR reasons not now
necessary TO repeat; he believes It now because
the President has said 1t plainly and oluntly as
IL is possible for him to say It. Laying aside a
copy OF the HERALD containing the letter,
SENATOR THURMAN SAID
ne did not see how there could be two opinions
about the letter. IL IS a plain submission OF the
question whether he shall be reelected for the
third term TO the people, who, he says, alone
have the right 10 decide IL In the absence OF any
constitutional prohibition. II utterly repudiates
the Idea that wat has been called
THE UNwRITTEN Law
OF the Republic has anJ thing TO do with the ques-
ton. There Is no reference TO the example set by
I former Presidents nor any intimation that any
respect Is due the usage which has heretofore
prevailed. on the contrary he says that the
question or the number OF terms allowed to any
one executive can only come mp fairly In the
shape or a proposition TO amend the constitution,
I and that, until sucn an amendment is
adopted, tue people cannot be restricted In their
choice by resolution further than they are now re-
stricted age, nativity, &c, and he expresses
the opinion that II may happen IN the future MS
Il tory 81 the country, that TO change executive
because he has been eight years In once will
n prove u0lOTbuuhAc ~ HOb ulrdSnOuss Auu Hudlly nc
\ gives the people 10 understand that under such
\ circumstances as to make It an imperative duty
he would accept the nomination again. 1t is true
he says such circumstances are not likely to
arise but IS ii not obvious that should ne be re-
4 nominated ne would consider that such circum-
stances had ariseni 1t is idle 10 call the letter
withdrawal OF Grant from she field. He says that
he Is not a candidate for denomination, but IN
the same sentence ne tells Us that he never has
been, and in the same paragraph ne gives rs 10
understand that under certain circumstances ne
would
AGAIN ACCEPT A NOMINATION.
And 1t Ia not 10 be overlooked that the letter
contains a narrative OF MS sacrifices, which looks
VERY mucn like an appeal 10 the sympathIes OF The
peoples
In answer 10 a question what he thought would
be the eject OF the letter, the senator said that