New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-04

Q. Now Sir what part of the procesSion' as vo1 ~ =.
followed IT in Its march, you abreast or A. Well
at times might be said TO be abreast Of the whole Of IT,
Q. Wei, you might and might not; mean while yos
were marching aIong-while you were walking along
A. was abreast at different tines abreast Of the wboL
Of It,
@ Did you start abreast Of the head OF III A. I could
not say that did. Sir.
q. Well, you started abreast Of some pari o,
1t, didn't youi A. Wen, presume 30.
O Well, can't you tell at ALI A. canno, idenu',
the particular point and the number Of files anything
Of that sort.
@ Well. haven't asked you any very precise question
have asked you the head, and now will ask you The
taii-whether you were abreast Of the tail Of ~ A
cannot tell YOU sir, whether abreast when II
started.
q When you began your concurrent march with thai
procession, we're you abreast Of It's head tall
Wen my impression s Sir, that about abreast The
colored troops
O. Well, where they; at tho head the tani A.
They were at the head of the procession, believe
O Them You think you aheadt A. I think Sir
q. Abreast Of the head-now did you keep there A.
No, Sir, I did not
@ As you walked along with it, A. Not altogether no
Cir.
g Well, did they get ahead Of youi A. Well, yes Sir,
they did get ahead OF me simply because =
Q. Although you cut across once or twicef A. Simply
because chose wanted to the procession file ey
me, and they got ahead Of me, think.
Q And then you caught up to themi A. Yes, Sir.
O. Now, Sir in what part OF the procession respects
Its head and tail did you Mr. Tutoni A. MY impress
sion is that Mr. Tton perhaps might have been 200 feet
in the rear OF the lady who carried the red flag.
Q. Might have BEEN of course A. That il my impres
sion as to where he was.
Q. Yes A. He might have been don't posi-
lively 20 any particular point, understand SIR; am
not able TO do it at this distance OF time.
q. Well, suppose don't
do 1t If you cannot How many feet was he ahead-you
say he was 500 feet behind the lady with the banner
how many feet he ahead OF the extreme OF tho
prOcessiont A. canot say, Sir; never computed IT,
O. How many other ladies did you in the process
soni A could not say three or four or perhaps Ave
ladies who took part in the procession.
O. Besides the lady who carried the bannerf A.
think remember; would swear to only four and Yer
baps not more than three.
@ Well you every face in the processOni A. IuS
at that time, certainly, Sir.
O. And you knew the women from the men A did
O. How many women there A. am not sDls
to state.
O. Three, possibly A. don't remember distinctly
enough 10 say
Q You TO three A. I Will that there
were three there; yes, Cir.
@. And you won't swear TO morei A. won't swear 10
more
O. How many OF those three did you know A. didpt
know any OF them
O. You didn't know the lady with the banner then A.
No, Sir.
@ And Won did not inquire or she was not described
10 You at the time A. did inquire.
O. Was she pointed to you, she described 20
youf Do you say that you knew then who she was A
Well, was told that that was Clafin
O. Now was there any other OF the three ladies known
you made known to you by being pointed OUT A.
was told that OF the ladies in the carriage with Gen.
Ryan Mistress Woodruff.
O. Now about the other ladies. A. don't know, SIR
don't remember
O. Then, as understand II. Miss Clafn carrying the
banner and Mrs Woodruff and another lady o carriage
with Gen Ryan the only ladies that you In tina,
processioni A. | am not able TO say that saw Mics
Cahn the proper OF the word Of my personal
knowledge.
O. understand that but the lady pointed ont tO yon,
A. saw the ladies that pointed out az such.
O. A lady pointed ont Miss Clafin . A. Yes.
O. And a lady pointed out Mrs. Woodruff in car
rage Mr. Ryan and another lady not pointed out OF
not known to yOuthOse the only ladies that you
say you saw A. They the only ladies that can
say don't say that there were not other ladies
there.
O. Did you any lady in that procession carrying
baby A. Not that remember
O. Would not that have attracted your noticef DOM
you think it would have attracted your notice yon hd
seen a lady carrying babyi A. Very possibly IL might
have done at the time but it did 1t has passed from
my memory.
O. Oh dare say I am not there was any one
there Showing the picture in Frank Leses Illus
s,ated Newspaper. Now Sir, do you think there WAS
any such group OF women in the procession az that
shown In that pcturei A. Well, remember nothing
that impressed me with that view Of H. Sir.
O. Now Sir, what the route Of the procession A.
could not give that paid attention 10 the route.
Mr. Evarts-rhat is all.
Mr. Beach-Mr Morris, will yon ask this gentleman
whether he is sure of seeing Mr. swinon With Mr. fon
below Eighh-s Let him not be mistaken IA regard 10
that
BY Mr. Morrs-Can yOu say positively whether yon
saw Mr. swinton in company with MV Tlton below
Eighthst.i A. Below Eighth-st-I would not Ike to
swear that saw him, Sir
Morris-That is all.