New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-01


O. Do you mean that you had personal acquaintance
with themi A. Personal acquaintance with them.
O. And Of how long durationf A. In the neighborhood
of six years.
Have you been allied at any time with the political
fortunes OF Mrs Woodruff candidate for the Pres
dencyi daughter. A. Partially.
O. Did you nominate herf A. No. did not; | was the
temporary chairman OF that convention.
O. That did nominated A. That did nominate her.
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O. Well, now, Mr. Maddox. you were a member of this
prOcessiOni A I was.
@. And sympathsed with it, A. Holpedl to get it M
O. wen as you helped get up, perhaps you can tell
the different parts OF it got up for instance,
the CORPS or division in which Mrs Woodruff moved
where that formedi A. We organized in sec
tons the nternationals Sections 1, =, A, and 80
on; belonged TO Section IL.
q. OF the Internationally A. or the InternatOnals.
O. What other component parts of the procession
there beside the Internationalsi A. Probably many;
there French and German sypathizers and actual
cOOperators and workers, of whom knew but little.
Q. But you knew there were such persons A. Yes.
Q. And there II International divisional A. do
say there IL International divisions in the pro-
oessiOn.
@. AM A. say they organized in that way.
O. In the cyi A. In the city and in the country, and
everywhere.
@. As an organization And this paper OF yours was
the organ OF that organization A 1t the organ Of
myself
Q. All as the head Of the organization A. NO. Sir;
the head Of the principles put forth by the nterna-
tonals
O. Imean that A. And took on myself the respon-
sibty certainly represented myself If it did not rep
resent them
@ You took the "Internationa" in reference 10
this organized body OF Internationals A. Yes to be
sure.
O. That il all intended What is the organ OF that
atm haa bppD 4
1t has particular Indeed the whole organiza-
on largely in this country In Europe has suspended
for the time being
O. Not defunct A. Well. not as bad my paper.
CLaughter.l
Q. mol A. They operating partially through secret
organizations under different names.
Q Now were you member of the division OF this pro-
cession where Mrs Woodruff and her sister were \.
No. was not
O. Do you know where the section in which these
ladies' fOrmed-where 1t started from A Its
incipient formatiOui
O. Yes. A. IL grew out OF Section No. o.
O. But am not connecting 1t with the divisions of the
Internationas all mean this section OF the process
SION where formed NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. did 1t form
tself-at Cooper Institute somewhere else A DO
not know.
O. You don't know A The Marshal of the Day would
be able 10 tell you quite correctly.
Q. Can you tell who he isl A. think Theodore
Banks.
Mr. Morris-He will be here; he is subpenaed
O. Now, were you in the division of this procession
where Mr. Tton vast A. No my recollection is that he
not in Section No. o.
O. You we're in No 99 A. Yes. was in No 8.
q. And Mrs. Woodruff was not in No. 81 A. No
O. Was Mr.. TtOn in the same division in which Mrs
Woodruff vast A. Mr.. TiltOuf
O. Yes A. Well, it would be very difficult for me 10
saw for 1 do know how large the divisions were;
No Q had in the neghborh0od of 100 persons don't
know that half that number attended; don't know
many belonged TO Section ~ there may nave been
100 there, for aught know.
O. What number was Mr TiltOn I'M A don't
know.
O. That you do not lnowl A. No, do not.
O. Well it is natural you should not. Now, IN what
number was Mrs. Woodhul' A. In her own part.
q What part thatl A. No. 10.
O. How large that you do not knOwi A. do not
@. Now, you say you saw Mr.. Tilton twicet A. do
o You saw Mr.. TntOn twlcel A. NJ recollection is
that saw him twice
O. You recolect that you him twice A. Perhaps
saw him more times than that
O. But you have said that you him twice Now,
how did YOU happen him at all if yOu were not In
the same dyisonl A. At the turning Of the street and
as looked around to see what coming after and
to look at the flags and he would be prominent figure
because would be taller than almost anybody else and
nv recollection IT, moreover, that somebody called my
attention to the that Theodore TtOn was marching
m the procession, and was surprised
o. You werel A. But am very glad.
O You were surprised and delightedf A. Yes.
@ on Well, he then in sight if you turned
around and looked backl A presume So
O. Was he between you and the Woodhuls carriage or
branch wherever they were A. No. think he was III
the rear Of both.
O. You think he was behind theml A. I do
O. 80 YOU think when you looked back you saw the
woodhus and Mr.. Tnton at the same gancei A 1t
would be naturally
O. Now Sir. once you him in that way by looking
back, did you not A. l suppose so, too
O. suppose so from your testimony. A. Yes, should
suppose
O. And once You think when the procession, turning on
itself brought those who in different parts OF II in
sight of one another A. don't know; but then saw
him NJ both times and more times than twice when
turned the corners made angle IN the processon
il would he quite impossible for 10 designate the par
ticular points at which L saw him can't do it,
O Well A. That is, think can't. However peg
away; may be able TO get at something. Iaughterl
Mr. Evarts-You know am not trying to prove any
thing by you; only crying TO prove that there was
anything TO prove by you IL IL not my oushess 10
help you 10 prove anything.
Mr.. Beach-He is trying to Improve what has been
proved
The witness-Oh, is that iii Laughter
Mr. Evarts-NOw you argue your cue. Now, can
you say at what corner it was that you him. or at
point Of the procession part OF being at an
angle with the Otheri A. No, cannot
Q. You cannoti Can you say whether he was always
behind YOU In the processiOn A. would not dare 10
say that either not but that he ahead OF
me when we were discharged broken up and am not
sure that / even saw him there.
O. Can you say whether Mrs. Woodruff and Miss
Ciahip were always behind you in the processiOnf A
Yes should be very safe to swear they were always
behind u.s. yes think would be very safe 10 do that
O. On what ground would you be safei A. On the