The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-09

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+ aud you sala. u il Ne uo 81 ecuonP-tnar you
\ thought No wouli he he ter-rnai YOU Dis ~ see
II ang .tLer cuat se 10 pursue-uid any such eaaver-
! snuon rs tins occurf A. 80 sir; al Imaginary.
q. Morllon mas Testified IN taese NJ as that he
ha4 40 interview WITH liacy. ana hna ttla Gen.
eral 4 acs ne truta III Inc Natter: VI MIN al HE
iacfs m tie case rs tuty we're. Nan you nud beea
pulty OF sexual lnte course wifh AIRS. hlzubetn
toBisl partner II tnat Was true II must oe con-
ce9 ed at ali 6azards"did Mouiton say All TINS. aud
dd you reply as ne says2 A, No, SIR: no aucn
statement; III Is absolutely false through and
through, IRON end IA end.
z And Moultun continues, and | said 70 Mr..
Reeenef ! rOi4 Iracy ain Ana that Tracy said that
although ne would NOT recommend lying, SUI
tnls was ole OF tn Sc eases waere living JUS
tiBable. Did ne say rhl-g A. No sir; ne never tod
me any sue thing: ali imaginary memory dead
ana iancy very active.
q. Dr. he say We had a consultation In my
house, in nv study, between Tracy, woodruff,
TlFton aud himself ana rhat at that interview he
had told rracY again the truth and ina he nAd laid
before Tracy your letter Of conrlton. Is tnat spg
thing in tnat form or that even could be distor ed
~ anytHlng IKE mat; never said anything to
him on the SUBJECT he me except what |
have narrated.
Z. Dld ne sag TO you that lie (Moulonl had COM
municated TIE fact 70 Tilton, that he had tod
General Tracy the facts IN the case ana that
Tillon mad denounced hnn tNoultonl lor SO
doiugi that ne had business to reveal the guilt
that he tad appeased 1llton by telling him that
II was the best thing that could be done. A. No,
q. Dld you say anything ike this in reply 10
Moaton tnat YOU were glad tlat Theodore had
assented TO that conference AM that you hoped
that some good would cone out OF IL. out
that you had considered the potcy OF silence
would nave .en best Tor ali partesl A. No. sir;
no such statement; IL is part ana parcel OF the
whole lie.
8. ~. now come 70 another branch OF the
case. How long have you kno yn o tver JonnsonS
A. should thlnk Or twenty-five years.
z. Ia 1872 or 1873 were you aware oil mis- position
and employment or MS connection with the pressS
A. Yes
z. Dld YOU have any personal intimacy with
that M ant-slavery men had wnen they were
hgnung the hattie Tor Y edom.
10 the employment OF Johnson on the christ an
Unions A. There was DISSATISFACTION ex ressed
WIN the edl ORAL mana cement OF the CaffSftda
Union, ana wnlcl gave rise TO many requests rom
the paol,hers tnat We should nave more expert
@ d @ o ~ r. e"is an o
on Tor montas, and, az las, after Mr.. Johnson
4ad ossh c0nFrIer Al, NIL ~ See nun, anu
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y go9a tn1ng ior tne paper-thouRne " sood
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paper any nluE ~ 10 Win lue Iuuoles nsl"eea n
you ana ilitont =; NotniGg wnateyer; employed
nun purely on piolessiohai gIouuus. .. J.
10 you az any s9g gine ng tt ~ M ~
Mr; JoAhson coneerhlhS Tue ireatmenL q we
oosusfs -age' " =, i,ieon ~ VA Padea, naNius
z. Dad On at any time say 20 Elton thaI 10 your
Juaghsht, ~ "Oulu oe necessary " naEe so,ne ons
oh TUE papei eu'soi WIZ Soulu ~ =.
journal Win more s9u a',u reverence WIN EeSa4u
70 tns seSn a. 20 IN u,o uo.; ~ corta -, ,-r.
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coud point 70 man tnae eoulu Ietreuy w ull .
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tnat II you tooA nus eultnr, VINO hau Deeh On ne
ea coSe er ar ,aasT wn', gnsy me ~sssn
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hha no Sous a'ion "4su uiA- - ~ sSD'est -
THE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR CHECK.
@. Do Won recollect the TACT 81 your giving $1,000
10 MOulton A. 40,
q. Preceding that first payment OF the money
TO Mculton bad ANYTHING oeen sad 70 you by MIN
with regard 20 pecuhiary assistance 70 lhtoA
a. mere WAS continuous stfeaan--- -,
z. Did hOuiton at any OF these interviews MAKE
any inquiries concerning your own anAlrs a.
fesi y vas lrlenuy cuAt' ne inquired nov my
paper WAS getting on: now MANY suoscrloefs we
had; whst We e our advertising receipts ana "hat
a. Vas anything sad ABOUT your lecturing
prospects, A. DON'T recall auy definite CONVEX
sation ABOUT tnat except that MAS recurring con-
sIoerably at that time al nlgn prices ana he spoke
OF Il as revenue 70 me-ln that KIND ora iilendy
way. -
U In the course OF these conversations concern
Ing lliton's IecunlArY needs was anything sald
BY Mouiton about your having aoy part 10 helplng
BIN a. Yes; ne SAID that uniess something was
done or luton, unless ms trends got MIN over
the Oar oi hs ulMcuIles anu put Nun ~ position
70 carry on the paper re thougnt me paper
Would naYe 70 pc aOana ned
e. Wnat CID yon reply 70 thatY a. Toe renly !
always n4de-that y could oe iany practlcal ald
q hlm W0nlai tnat II cOaa heip nim " maud or
voice would 0e very gla1 " ~ IL ssld often
auu often taat !. coaid help Bm pecunlarity
would; tlaL 4 WOula always pe one ~ llitol's
nenas-
q Previous 70 flat PAY mehl 81 so,VO9 ~ MOuton
was tnete any interyies ~ Snich ne 81 Ee q .
Thousand a.AaI eontIiout'9na a. les, se spoSs
tue business prospects ~ Toe paper aua u Jay.
ing paper Oils an ~ adNdhc-uG mOAeY himsels
and ne afew Out 81 ms POCKET some cnecksi two
q them we're time urats q sz.VJO or st,u.o eaca
ano nc ALSO reau passage irOal leteT' NHsIs
tue Donor SAID tnese Tune drafts Woula 0e as use
iut ~ tne money: tuat they wou PC met a. they
came lOuuu ana Wheh ~ hdd Fcau Tue kassdas
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