New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-01-19
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Judge Neilson-At that time
Mr. Eyarts-Therefore I say Whist you IE'e aos mere
goes out
Mr. Fullerton-No No.
Mr. Eyarts-weli, that is my statenent-ft goes Out
III you admit that concerning the charges
which were concerning paper which Is presently Do
fore thom brought by Tlton that there was nc
before them that no such paper was bfough
by Mr. Tlton, and that instead 0! that there letter
not containing tho charges. but letter written by r
West Mr. Beecher. which Mr. Beecher brought 10 mr.
Moulton. how you going to put those two con-
versatlons togethori You may take the witness
up aud examine him to what occurred when
Beeeher brought that letter. and may take him
up and examine him "a TO what occurred In the Fa''
when the charges br0ught-if Dir. Beecher was
present for IL does not appear-but we cannot nave
OF this testimony stands, as being III
evidence that has been given by this witness In reesu
either to the letter OF West Beecher In the carly
Summer-because 1t does not profess to De-nor III TO
gard to the charges OF West in tho FALL because he
tostaed that he had no such conversation IN the Fall
Judge NeIson-I think this misapprehenson had bet
ter he cleared up. Mr.. Fullerton.
Mr. FulIertonI WILL to crafty the counSei upon '"0
other side and solely for that purpose
O Now. state what occurred between you before the
Summer vacation. In regard 10 anything WIN winch Di
West was connected. A. received the etter Oh 'uno
the 25th. from Mr. West to Mr.. Beecher, from MI
wanted 1t to go the Summer vacatioh-ne "a"''"
that matter 10 go over the Summer vacation
Mr. Evarts-What was said we are entitled 70.
Mr. Fullerton-Yes: what was said A. Mr.. Beecner
said that he hoped the matter could go over the SUN
mer vacation aud that then could hnd way 70 ueai
with it saw him In the Fall.
Judge Neson-That with reference to the letter
A. Yes Sir with reference to the letter OF June d.
Mr. Full ertou-The letter threatening the charges
A. Yes, Sir
Mr.. Egarts-weil. the letter.
O. And did you approve Of this-haying 1t so over I'LL
FAM A. Yes. Sir.
O. What occurred then In the Fall with reference 70
tho charges. when they camcl A. ln the faii 'ue
charges OF Mt West were made aud the paper that
have seen here in court was brought 10 mo by mr.
Tlton a nd sa Mr. Beecher and Mr. Tton together'
and IL as decided what should be the reply ana Mr.
Titon said TO Mr. Beecher. will claim my nonmem-
bershp and thus will prevent nv being cled DeIOre euo
chnrch" And he did write letter and send IL 10 MI
Talmadee thnk-if am correct about that-and then
Mr. Beecher said to him, in my presence, Afterwards
Theodore, God inspired you to write that letter.
Now In this conversation that you have last SPOKEN
OF yourself. Mr. Beecher and MI Ilton' STATE
whether the West charges then and there present
A. don't remember that they wero.
O. They were the subject. however, OF the conVersa
toni A. They the subject Of the conversation
think that Mr. Tlton had In his possession there
think so did not have them In my possession
O. Were they taken out and exhibited, do you remem
Der A. Mr. Tilton had them IN his possession. don
remember whether he exhibited them or not. My I'M
preston Is that he did, could not swear that he dd
They were the subject OF conversation. however.
Mr. Eyarts-Those West charges. they now stand on
the evidence are not entitled to be read. We ask that
they be struck out. The foundation upon whch ne
rested them as evidence has disappeared
Judge Neson-He said before that be could not say
that Mr.. Beecher saw them.
Mr. Evarts-Well. but he said that he had them there
and that he stated them TO him. I submit to your
Honor that that exhibit must be struck out az not sup
ported by any evidence
Judge Neson-I will the evidence as 1t stands
III it is not supported. it Will be struck out.
Mr. Evarts-Your Honor understands our point
Judge Neson-Yes, Sir; cannot recall 1t oil now
Mr. Evarts-No. we will not interrupt your Honor al
present We make the point aud If your Honor rules
against we shall except
Judge NesOn-Yes Sir.
Mr. Beach-My friend has read from the previous
testimony of Mr. Mouton that at some time Mr. Mouton
stated those West charges to Mr.. Beecher.
Mr. Evarts-Yes, Sir IN the summon which nap
pened to be months before they we're In existence
Judge Neilson-But that same evidence now applies
TO later interview
Mr. Morrls-He corrects it.
Mr. Eyarts-He corrects it. When he is asked whether
the charges were there exhibited or produced be
does not know.
Mr. Fullerton-I will ask him about 1t.
Mr. Evarts-Hs cannot know any better now-better
than he knew three months ago.
Mr. FuertOn-What was said in regard to the
West charges at this interview between yourself Mr.
Beecher and Mr. TltOn Let Us have 1t again A Mr.
Tilton said he going to plead his nonmem0ershp Of
the church. and therefore could not be cited down-to
prevent his being cited before the church for trial
Judge Neison-He asked you what was said about the
charges.
MI Beach-The question put to you'll whether any
thing was said you there and II what regard to
the nature OF character or the West charges.
Mr. Evarts-Yes that ia tho question put now ii has
not been before
Mr. Fullerton-Yes. it was before-the previous CUES
ton.
Mr.. Evarts-well
Mr. Beach-We propose to put IL again.
Mr. Evarts-That could never happen-that converse
ton.
Mr.. Fullerton-It did happen. 1t did not happen IN
the Summer.
Judge Neison-One at a time.
The Wtness-What Is the question
Mr. Fullerton-What was said in tho conversation be
tween yourself Mr. Beecher, and Mr. TltOn In regard
to the West charges against Mr. Beecher
Mr.. Bcach-The nature Of them.
Mr. Eyarts-That Is q leading question. THIS witness
has made three answers that he don't remember. HI
| has been asked three times what said, and she
answer that TlltOn would write card declining.
Mr.. Beach-Now, the witness should not be put in
false position. think the witness has been misled b.
tho form OF the question that put to him ooncerDn
what was said tho subject OF the West charges Now
propose to have the question put to him, what II any
thing there said In regard TO the nature or characte
| OF the West chargesi
| Judge Neilson-In the Fall
| Mr.. Beach-Yes, Sir.
Mr.. Fuerton-State. Mr.. Monitor. II you pleased A
! In regard to the nature or character Of the Yves
chargesf
Q. Yea.
| Judge Neilson-After they had been put 10.