The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-15
NEW YORK HERALD FRIDAY JANUARY 49, s75-TRIPIE SHEET

now show me is copy OF the newspaper publica-
MIR. Fullerton offered 1t in evidence, and read the
letter, which was addressed to the New YORK
hull said she had been denounced as free lover;
that persons who condemned free love opealy
practised IL. and that she knew OF one eminent
clergyman who lived In concubinage with the wife
or another public man.
occurred IN reference to yourself, MI Tlt0n ana
MIR. Bescner A. Mr.. TltOn said ne had gone TO
see Mrs woodruff IN reference TO thi story ana
influence
THAT woMAN
against the publication OF The story; thought !
ought to see her, and ne said he hoped would
with Mr.. Beecher; saw ner once OF twice before
knew Mr.. Beecher.
Q. Go on and state. After you saw her did you
Q. What did you say to Mr.: Beeca,r as having
said to Mrs. Woodruff ''This story has It's origin In
STORIES CIRCULATED BY BowEN.n
when he was asked TO furnish evidence on
which to make a charge, he did net present It,
told Mr.. Beecher had enceavored to show to
by this publication. l said thought her liable to
moral influence. He said ne was gratifieo that
There was nothing publ sned for some time after
tnat; yes. believe there was something pub
lsned In Woodruff Claims paper.
q. Do you recOlect anything having occurred
between you and Mr.. Beecher after the publication
IN Woodruff 4 Claims paper In regard to Mr.
Mr.. Beecher shortly after that publication.
q. state what occurred A. Mr.. Beecher said
he had come to consult me as to what was the best
thing 10 do in regard TO that publication, as to
what reply. If any could be made TO IT. he said he
saw
since that story had been published; told him
that ii he Kept Silent with regard to it, and simply
pointed Go his past lie as an answer to 1t; That
and wOuld
opinion 80 lar as any evil effect OF 1t on HIM was
concerned; we Consulted frequently about 1t, and
we did not arrive at any OtherconciuslOn than that
SILENCE WAS BEST;
was to say that II the story was true 1t was nfa.
mons to tell 1t, and that If false 1t was deplorable
TO tell it-that II his he was not answer to 1t
would not choose to make any other; Mr.. Beecher
said to me ne thought 1t would be Judlcous Tor me
to make such reply as that after this CONVEX.
satlon with Mr.. Beecher we met again, and told
HIM had made such reply as That TO several per:
sons; TINS appeared to satisfy him; told him |
had been pressed close by one or two people and
had denied tnat he tMr. Beechcr) was an impure
z: What reply did Mr.. Beecner make when you
told him you had made that replyte those parties?
a; He thanked thar, me for the pains mad taken at
Mr.. Tilton was IN New Hampshite;, when
he was not at all esponsible lor the story; Mr.
asked Mr.. Beecner the best way to meet the story;
Mr.. Beecher SAID ne dld not KNOW exactly how 10
meet IL: LOU MI IllLOl tndL i IL WAS
best to be silent and not to attempt
ANY REPLY
to the story; that was the nature OF what
Cured; after this a card was prepared some time
during that month, the first part OF December;
Mr.. TiltOn declined publishing any such card; he
SAID 1t would only lead to urther controversy, and
that he could not denOunce this woman to
SAVE Mr.. BEECHER
from the result OF his crime do not remember
Mr.. Beecher's reply.
TIITON's CARD
@. What paper Is that now handed to you A.
. &c thA hon n fsVn AfV Han WoN I'd nnnnh nr
and is in regard to the proposed card of Mr.. Til
ton; Mr.. Hilton told Mr.. Beecher that he knew
brought into reatlonshlp with and to know Mrs.
Woodruff, and that the publication OF such card
as that which he proposed would be both unjust
Mr.. Fulle rton here read the card to which the
witness referred, repuJlating the story OF that
woman as Daseless and entirely untrue.
BescheI, you D Know me oirtansiansss Under when
menced~weiI, what did be say those circnm-
stances wereY A. He SAID he had formed the &C.
quannstance Of Victoria woodruff In consequence
World, and from that time to the spring
OF 1872 he had used MIS- influence to suppress
and Mr.. Beecner, and 1t was not 10 unguarded
enthusiasm be wanted to protect Mr.. Beechers
family and his own family from the story which
she threatened t. publish.
Q. what else occurred at that timer A. Nothing
pondent; he was deeply aiected and wepf, as
usual.
q. j now call y0ur attention TO December, 1S72-
to the conversation which occurred between your
sell, Mr.. Beechcr and Mr.. Triton, about the pro-
posed statement OF the plantln-when did 1t take
place and wheres A. In my house, IN Remsen
street.
Q. Well. what occurred theres A. There were
present on that occasion Mr.. and Mrs. TlltOn, Mr..
Beecher and myself; Mr. TIltOn had communi-
Gated to me that 1t was his intention to publish
story giving an account OF the whole affair: he
had made an alteration In the original story
whereby he had stated the exact truth, but had
put 1t IN more delicate language, and Mr.. Beecher
tn rdnr
Beecher. IL will read part OF the story you, and
If you can stand any part OF It you can stand the
q. What part did he read'
BREEZE.
Mr.. Evarts objected to its being read In part, but
the Court considered 1t admissible. Mr.. Beechers
counsel contended they are entitled to the whole
paper. ,
it?
Mr.. Evaris-what other than what he read did
MIR. Fullerton-That is not what said
Mr.. Evarts-l know that Is not what you said.
Mr.. Fullerton addressing the COurt said he
proposed to give what was said on that occasion,
and he did not propose 10 give any evidence in
documentary form. What ne desired to know
him reply.
Mr.. Evarts-we want the record according to
the rules OF evidence. IL IL stated that the
communication was concerning the publication OF
the statement oy Tlton. Now, We want that
competent evidence to cite by oral proposition
what was written. When they produce that paper
we Will examine and consider As TO whether the
whole or part thereof is admissible. The iounda-
ton for the part must be shown by the produc-
ton OF the statement.
Mr.. Fullerton-I propose to show what commu-
nication was made by Mr.. TiltOn to Mr.. Beecher.
Judge NeisOn-The witness can state what was
SAID by Mr. Tton TO Mr.. Beecher. IL was not
proposed 10 show that the paper was acted upon;
the witness can state what Mr.. TiltOn SAID to the
defendant on that occasion.
Mr.. Evarts-We except to a reference by the
witness to anything that was said as being part
OF that paper The paper may be produced, and
they should not rely upon the Witness memory.
The Court still ruled that witness may state all
that the plaintln said to thesdeIendant.
Mr. Evarts reiterated his objections 10 anything
In that paper
Mr. FuertOn-Well. what communication did
Mr. Tllton make 10 Mr.. Beecher a. that interviews
A. Mr. 11ton said to Mr.. Beecher-
Mr.. Evarts-Wait q moment
Mr.. Fullerton to MIR. Evarts Sharply You shall
not rnterrogate my witness when III my eXamina-
ton.
Mr.. Evarts tdecidedy)-I propose to inter-
rogate when there Is an evasion OF the rules or
evidence.
Judge Nelson said he ala not see why counsel
should object TO this question: