New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-16
TESTIMONY OF CHARLES r. JUDsoN.

Charles G.. Judson, called and sworn in behalf Of
defendant.
Mr. sheaman-whcrc do you resiie' A. In New York
q How long have you resided in New York; A.
twenty or twenty-five years
q Are YOU have You BEEN acquainted with parties
this sutt A. have
Q How long have you known each Of them' A. have
known Mr. Beecher should think abou twenty years and
Mr. Tton perhaps fifteen eighteen yearsa little less than
Mr. Deecher
@ What your eccupaton' A. merchant
q Were do you carry business' A. In Worth street,
New York.
q What line OF business, A. India rubber gooda.
q DO you eclee eonyersation You had with Mr. Tlton Ia
November, 1885, ask simply you rccoect such converse
ton in or about November 1867 A. cannot state the time
so definite as November rccoect conversation with him
in 1865
q Cannot you recoeet whether or not was prior to the
very end o. November prior November 3lth 1865 A
cannot positively BY Impression is that it ia the latter
part Of 1855.
@ Where did that conversation take place A. At Dclnon
ieo's, in Chambcrsst
@ State how you came to meet Mr. Tilton there, A.
not met him frequently there cannot state the special
a5on at that time lie dined with very cqreny-quiis
frequently.
q And did you dine then at DeInoncos, A. We Cid, Sir
yea, Sir
q Now did have any conversation the subject Of
MI bcer Concerning members Of Plymouth Church. On that
q Please state what that conversation was the substance
ofni
M. Beach, object to that wholly imnatcral.
AT. SaearEan-It perfectly material, but the gentleman
expects me TO pnt leading question for aGght see.
Dir Beach, don't expect such thing from accurate
gentleman as yol are.
Judsc Ncilron-l think we viii take IT,
Hr Sdeai.naaYou what conversation you had
with Mr Ton the subject Of Mr Becchcr, and other
bcrs Of Plymouth Church.
Mr Pyor-Oter members Of Plymouth church, Has that
anything 10 do with It,
Mr. SucarnanlJ is all Introductory to matter in connection
with Mr.. -ece anL lAlmisso!e unless connected with
Kim.
Mr. Pyor-That may be- but that don't make material
We don't object to the with member VI Ply
mouth CAurch.
The Witaess-I cannot state the conversation.
AZ Stcarman-Thc substance
The Wne-s-I only state
Q little louder. A. cannot state any conversation In de-
tail except that discussing Plymouth Church, talking
about ami is members had formerly been attendant
upon That Church.
q. What was raid upon that subjcct'
Mr. Pyori your Honor please object TO what was said
about the members Of the Church.
Jule NcsonTruc; infer il Is drawing in MI Beecher IN
form.
Mr. slcarnln-It il all connected with Mr. Bcecher.
H Pryor-Whl; had TIE members OF Plymouth Church ten
years ago to do with this cise'
Mr. shcar1n.n-I t.ke 1t Mr.. Tilton member OF the
church.
Mr. pryor-shc may be member. You used the rllral
pumbcr.
nr Slcarm1n-T going TO eoDinc II 20 Mrs Tion
M Pryor-"ha hls tat r., ~ do villa nis cissf VIII re
VIII We cad il sc wa1dT OF nni.e space, II your Honor
Phase
Jul,o Ee-on-r worN that question With great
del OF pleasure II coah.
H. pr.orIt s Your or'- power 10 determine the end
ths 1t cerrny won't end within he lifetime OF any
% a. IL a.. lile Of eXauina' on is to BE- fg,O8,d.
Jnd,e Ne ton-Bc, 1t him wcr tL~ question
M ShpanAan-,To tic tlc,s.l Go Oh and sta'c.