The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-03-11
NEW YORK HERALD THURSDAY MARCH H. 1s75-rRIPLE SHEET

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question whether his religious sentiments were
in accordance with those 81 that journal. Mr..
Evarts hardly appreciated His Honor's little Joke.
especially as the latter allowed the question To be
put in q mouined form.
The question was put In mOdlned form-W hat
are your religious yiewsf
witness-I eau myself Christian; l believe
that all human beings VIII be eventually saved; |
do not believe that Is the essence OF the Unlver-
sahst uehef; repeat hat every child OF God Will
be eventually made happy.
The Jadge-Do you mean by that every child OF
Adam
Adam; my opinions have been undergoing q
change ever since my birth, always In the dlrec-
Boston; tue paper was started 10 night Universal
ism; fought lnlversalism and did not con vince
myself THAT was wrong until some time after
ward; may have written some article advocat-
ing Unyersalism; never edited any Universalist
paper; do not think have ever subscribed to
any oil them; have seen them In the exchange
INST; the CHRISTIAN Unton exchanges with Univer-
salist papers, write
RELIGIOUS ARTICLES FOR THE CHRISTIAN UNION,
always advocating my own religious opinions;
never wrote an article advocating the Universaist
doctrine Tor that paper: the Christian Union is NOT
a believer in universal salvation; do regard the
salvation OF men 10 future world as o vital ques-
ton 10 oe discussed nave expressed my religious
convictions 10 Mr.. Beecher; was connected with
q ConRrepn' lonal church as q member; was also
connected with Dr. Lyman Beecner's church in
Progressive Friends orthodox and beterodOx
people were found together In 1t; It's object
ana extingulsh slavery; TO make people better,
happier aud purer: l was also q MEMBER Of Q
society OF Friends IN OHIO; am SELL member OF
the Progressive Friends.
Mr.. Fullerton That is an omnibus church.
Witness-You may characterize It as sucn, but
don't; l never was connected with Plymouth
churcn l nave attended service there; | have
taken the communion there about ten or twelve
times; l began to go to Plymouth churcn about
1858; cannot tel when commenced taking the
communion In Plymouth cnurcn; / was then
editing the Anti-Slaperv Standard; DO not recol.
took PVmOulh
church; became connected with the Independent
III 1865 took the communion long before l went
on the Christian Union.
The Court then adjourned until two p. II.
AFTER RECESS.
At q quarter past two O'Clock the crosse xami-
nation o. Oliver Johnson was resumed by Mr.. Full
lerton The witness said
/ am not technically, a communicate In Mr..
Beecher's church. but have communed there.
O. DO you believe IN tne divinity OF Christ? A. I
90 not believe In the deity OF Christ. but believe
III His divinity; do not believe in the Trinity;
believe Christ performed a divine mission; I be-
heve In the inspiration OF the New Testament, ac-
c0rdng to my sense OF the definition OF the term
splred. and others am IN doubt OF; was never
the editor or an anti Masonic paper; prepared q
written by the witness, stating that ne was
editor OF an anti Masonic paper That Is
not continued The witness) strictly correct; the
question OF Masonry was settled before l took
cha &c OF the paper; this was in 1894; 1t had ref
erence 10 the introduction OF Masonry into poll.
tics; resided with the hopedale Community; 1t
was established by RestoratlOnlst Community !;
they had a service often spoke there on Sun
munlty; / edited the Practical Chris ian; this
was IN June 1S49; l was not excommunicated
from Gs or 1s
the Ia ce OF accommodating me after / retired
from 1t; asked friend cnce II he was Spirit
ualist. and ne SAID he was SpirttualiBt and not q
damned IooL Uaughter)
Q. Are you Spirltuast ? A. That depends
received communications from dear friends In the
other world; II Is about year since l saw a
Splritualist meetings in New YORK; mink It is
likely l have written articles on Sptrirualism,
Mr. sa enureS in am Ne1 YnrS
am not an officer IN that churcn; two years ago l
was q trustee Of iaat church; from 1853 TO 1859
his invitation to ell Christians broad enough to
enable me to do so; was SPOKEN to on the subject
OF matchmaking MI. TIltOn with Splrttuallsm |;
MRS. TILTON NEVER ExPosrULLrED
with me In any way on that subject; she never
charged me with any thing on that subject and
never lntlmated TO me any thing In regard to the
Q. Do you recollect who drew up your contract
Old not draw up the contract; MI. linton and Mr.
Monitor did not nx upon my salary; Mr.. Tson
@ Did you not know that Mr.. Triton had an
agency In securing you that placer A. DO not
Redirect by General Tracy-I had converse.
tion with Mr.. Tllton in regard TO MS taxing the
chair at the oteinway Hall (WoodhulD meeting;
demonstrated WITH him very much Tor having pre-.
sIoed there; he SAID he belonged 70 that party
and that Mrs. Woodruff represented cause In
which he believed; never heard from Mr.. Tilton
that he mad any agency in procuring me employ
ment on the Christian UniOn; did not request
Mr.. hilton 10 draw contract for me; think Mr..
tract with Mr.. Beecher; he said Mr.. Beecnsr
wouG e ssa tn, mad not Gent,Sct ,o was
bury paper; 1t was IN 1885, at the time OF the
Presidential election in that year
To Mr.. Fullerton-I am not aware that Theodore
TlltOn. after the Stelnway Hall meeting lett TOT n
on the following evening by train, and was away
Tor some time.
TESTIMONY OF IsABaLLA G. OAKLEY.
Isabella G. Oakley was the next witnesses Hav-
ing been sworn, she was examined by Mr.. Tracy.
she SAID reside In Brooklyn: l know Mr. and
Mrs. Illton; knew them before their marriage; l
was at one time alter their marriage an inmate OF
their house, when Florence was eighteen months
they were then residing at No. As Livingston
street. with Mrs. nlton's mother, Mrs. Richards; 1
spent the summer with them at Newport
curing Carr0ifs infancy; l also spent the
IN their house IN oxford street; have seen them
IN their house No. ia Livingston street; l
sometimes visited them there; during the first
year and hall visited them there quite lre-
quently; the first year Of their married life they
lived together happily, afterward ! noticed q
change IN Mr.. Titon's conduct; he BECAME
despondent and moody; have heard him say that
he hoped the children never would do such
would not speak English as sne did; was. in my
eariy acquaintance with Mr.. Tl;On, acquainted
with their friends; noticeI change In Mr.. TIL
the house that was not acquainted with IN the
eariy Part OF my acquaintance with the liltons
Miss Anthony and Mrs. stanton used 70
visit the house; also Stephen Pearl Andrews; l
do not recall any other names; have heard Mr..
Tilton openly express views on the marriage reIa-
ton; heard him say at the table, l think IN the
presence OF his children. Mrs. Illton, MISS
Anthony, and Mrs stanton, mat he no longer
held The views he formerly did on the subject of
the marriage relations; this brought tears into
Mrs. TIton's eyes. AID have partial impression
that she rose ana LETT the table; also noticed Q
change In his religious views from 1868 to 1857.
q. what did ne say A. i heard him say that
he no longer held the accepted view OF the atone
ment; l a.so heard MIN say that he held no longer
the old-iasnloned views on the inspiration OF the
Scriptures.
q. WHAT did ne say, In substance, In regard to
his belief on the ms prati0n OF the Scriptures A.
That he DID not believe in the inspiration OF the
Scriptures.
Q. WHAT effect did this have on Mrs. Tilton. A.
1t was a constant source VI trouble TO her. often
spoke to Mr.. Hilton on this Subject at the request
OF Mrs. Iiiton; cannot recollect that Mrs. Tlton
ever wept when this SUBJECT was Drought up; as
q mother sue was tender and wise; as q wife,
affectlonately devoted TO her husband; my &C