The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-08

DIDN'T want TO tell him any more tnAn ulu. -.
q Showing paper Look at that letter, MT.
Beecher, which ia without date and say now soon
AFTER this Woodruff scandal was made public that
Wlthin-wlthln three or four weeks.
2. Was tnat written In pursuance OF any con-
ference or In any way A. IL WaS-n0, not con-
ference; IL was wrltten-
Mr. Beach-Fhat was the question.
The Wltness-Upon suggestion not confer
ence.
O. From whom did any suggestion proceed A.
/ think Mr.. Moui0n said IL would be agreeable 10
Mr.. Tllton II would address 10 his wife note OF
Q. Yes; and did you address it, anu at taat
to Mr. Demlng, / believe-the matter s. he thought
would be agreeable both to Mr.. Tltun and TO
Mrs. Tlton-and wrote this letter and handed 1t
TO Mr.. Moulton, VINO wasn't satisfied with It.
q. Well what became OF ltY
Mr. FuertOn-WnatS that number, Mr.. Evartse
Mr.. Evarts-lO3 ID, 1903.
The WIness-He sent 1t; he tod me alterward;
he said 1t explained TO Mr. Iiton tue point Of view
Irom which mad written 1t as had explained It
10 nun; found, alter mad lett IL with him. and
saw him again, tney expected would write
o. You handed IL to him and he sent 1t to Mrs.
Tilton, as you understoods A. Yes sir, as IN
Q. At that time. Mr.. Beecher, Mr.. Titon, has
spoken OF an interview toward the close Of De-
sps now az s ES% Mr. P,FGd ,s
end Of this month OF December or
the month o. 1872 or
remember any conference between Mr.. Moulton,
Mr. Tton and yourself, IN which the matter OF
and any papers produced, or read or examined
A. Nothing IN November.
December.
O. the last of December ? A. Yes, sir.
q. Where did That occurf A. At Mr.. Moulton's
o. Who were parties to that consideration. who
were present. A. Wen, MIR. Triton, Mrs. Iilton
aud myself in the immediate conversation in the
preparatory stages OF IL Mr.. Moulton: MI. Mouiton
stated to me that Mr.. Tillon had got plan. ne
thought by which he could make some form or
statement that would clear him from the imputa-
tons that were resting on him, and az the same
time the whole matter could be set In SUCH way
BEFORE THE PUBLIC
as would be for the lurtnerance oil the interest all
round.
q. Yes. very well. Now at this time, when Mrs.
Tllton was present Mr. Beecher, there were some
letters. were there noiS 4. Yes SSH SIT mad been
pany statement II such one should be made.
q. YesY A.. And MIR. Tllton WAS to make state
ment also IN denial, and MRS. Tilton was to make
statement, or rather denial, to go into some sort
oil statement.
were up that Mrs. TiIton was present. a. Yes,
SIR
view between yourself, Mr. Mouton and Mr..
Tlton, az which paper or document that has
been called the "true story" was readg A. No.
O. Was there an occasion at which tnat was
read2 A. Yes sir.
O When was III A. Later than that.
o. You think later Than this. Now we will taxa
that interview where the "true story" was read.
Who were present at that timer A. Mr.. Moulton,
myself and MIR. Tllton.
q AND where dld the meeting occurS A. IN
Moulton's bedroom.
MR.. BREcnER HEARING THE TRUE STORY.
O. Now Will you state what took place there
A. Mr. Mouiton told me Mr.. Tton would come
round aud read a statement that ne had pre-.
pared heard nothing oil II, except that ne was
preparing something.
O. Preparing something's A. asked Mr.. MouI-
hadn't read 1t himself; Mr.. Triton was going TO
read IL 10 him and me that night; so went there
70 near s aaa M ET M be-
gan, sitting Oh the sofa, and fixed his papers, and
opened the remarks TO me by saying, "rnere was
one single sentence which. II could stand, he
thought tnat should be able 10 stand the whole
document;'' then he commenced reading;
HE DIDN'r READ THE SENTKNCE;
began reading what was called afterward the
'rrue story aud read on until lie came 10 that
passage in wncn was charged with asking Mrs.
Titon TO DE a vile 10 me, with all that Is implied
in that term. and he looked up and said, This IS
the sentence which, II you can stand, the rest OF
made no reply; | was lying on the bed,
tnlnk; ne went on reading aud reading
mad nnished II got M and began TO walk ABOUT
the room, aud said nothing, and finally think ne
OF Mr. Moulton asked me what nad to say.
lat this point there was slight commotion
among the audience.l
Judge Observation-Disclosures. please DO quiet.
The wimess-And walked up and down the
room, and hnally turned to him and said
"Mr Tilton, IL Is not Tor me TO say what you saal
or what you shall not puolish; bat want You 10
understand II you publish this statement. and
that sentence in H. 1 viii not stand IL nor agree
to Il, and that Is the end Will not have any such
statement as that come out and not meet Ii per-
emptony; at that he gathered himself up lion
llke-lhere the witness inflated Mr.. TIltOn's
mannerl his lace flushed. ana ne began TO storm
very loud on the subject aud Mr.. MoultOn took
hun IN hand ms family anu drew back, out, aud
The LION AND THE TIGER HAD THE FIGHr
oy themselves; II was good, lively discussion
and IN respect 10 the structure OF the whole docu.
meut and IN respect 10 the insertion or that part
part oftne time think SIR. 1ilton uad the best OF
H. aad 1t went on so Tor very considerable
period and ended unsatisfactory / am persuaded;
that was the substance OF mat interview.
q. As 10 the result OF that interview was there
any de!ermio ttlon 70 publish tle true story"
Mr.. Bc1cA-Oa, wei. what was e&pressedY
TIC Nitnes l-Nothlng said.
Mr.. Eydrts-NothIug iurther said; well, did you
understIn Il was to be puDishedS
MIR. Beach, OBJECT to II; Mr. Beecher, one mo-
q. what was the result or that interview in
respect OF whether tnat was 70 be published or
not
Mr. Beach, submit he cannot state the result
except from what was said.
Judge Neilson-Thars so. What was said on
that subject, n any thing
Mr.. Evarts-Well. what was said furtherf A.
Nothing.
o. Before you broke up' A. Nothing that II re-
member; there was nothing SAID about printing,
at any rate, nrst, middle nor last that recall
Y. Wasn't tolls paper read as one that was pro-
posed Tor publication
Mr.. Beacn-Inat Is objected TO. One moment.
Judge N5iison-What was said on tnat suDjectf
Mr.. Evarts-Hcw WAS the matter introduced
WHY was the paper read 20 your
was said.
Mr.. Evarts-we. what was said concerning
tnls paper before ~ was read TO you
Mr.. Beach-WhV. 1 understood Ar. Beecher 20
say Of the interview that he was requested to
come there aud near a paper that was proposed 70
be published.
Mr.. Evarts-VerY wen.
The Witness-I would ike 20 correct that state
ment, Mr.. Beach, so lar as 10 say tGat l was to
hear statement thar was drawn up by SIR.
nlton, anu whle Understood Il was for publca-
ton shouldn't be Wiling TO say That was stated
to ne the OBJECT.
Judge Neison-Now, the counsel wishes to
learn whether
Mr.. Evarts-when was anything said about its
being published 7
Mr. Beacn-he says nothing was said.
Mr.. Evarts-I nov ask you the qaestion, MT.
Beecner, when was ANYTHING said about It's being
published, to which you replied that II it was puD-
lShed you could not endure ".
the Nitness-l nad the impression all the whiie,
OF course, not because they said so; why should
they draw up story out TO publish ita said u
TINS Is published Will 90 so ana So out that don't
follow, does Il, that they saId they were going TO
publish ltf
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