The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-08
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subject or that sTaremeDtS A. l think the first
thing and the last thing we're the same.
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Mr.. Evarts-WhaG was the last tningS A. If
THAT statement, to when he had called my attcn-
ton primarily, and which when he read the state
ment, heard substantially IT this was TO come out
IN that document or 10 be published IN thaL dOcu-
menL wouldn't stand ~; that should make
tight.
q. And was that all that was said during that in
tervleW ny you on the suolect2 A. That was SUD-
stantlally all tnat was SAID by me during that IN
teryiewi and my remarks were not many.
z. Anu you left lhen2 A. No, not tneni heard
z. Well. you left aner' A. dlplomatized for
some time and then LETT.
q. ana eit before they had concluded their dis
cussong A. Yes, sir: II mad become lar more
quiet and temperate and lett.
Q. Now, dld you ever see or hear read that paper
q. was i, ever brought before you or to your
notice py Mr.. Iilton or Mr.. Moulton as q proposed
o. Now we viii take the occasion, Mr.. Beecner,
at when Mrs. Triton was present U part OF the
a. Yes and when was thaty The end OF Deem
Der DO you know the date? A. IL wasn't lar
from that: think among the last days In Deem
Der.
O. where was this interview held? A. In the
back chamber Of Mr.. Moulton's house. second
O. Had an appointment been made for that
meeting? A. Yes, sir; there had.
O. BY whom and IN what manner had the ap-
poIntment been mace? A. don't know In what
manner Mr. Moulton had made II.
q Made IL with your A. With me and Mr.. Til
ton understood but can't say any thing about IL.
y with your A. we were TO meet az Moultons
house Tor the purpose OF exchanging or rather
Comparing and adjusting letters.
Q. For publications. A. For publication II It
should seem best.
present at the first occurrences A. can't recall
whether Mr.. MoIton was present at first or not,
sir; II he was ne lett soon and MI. Iiton ana l
were left. Mrs. MGulton also oeing IN ana out |
think; 1t was desired TO have Mrs. Tilton present.
and Frank Carpenter, the artist, coming III about
that time, was sent round 10 bring her-to bring
Mrs. TiltoD, and think mat some conversation
were some remarks made on the proposed docu-
ment or some statement that he was drawing up
which l didn't altogether understand, Tor 1t
wasn't read 10 me nor shown to me.
O. At this timer \. At this time; nor Was IL in
state OF entirety recoect his speaking OF II as
something that was IN tie process OF lormatlon
and when Mrs. Tllton came then drew from my
pocket q letter that had prepared IN oonsonance
o. tSnowng printed paperl-Do you recognize
that as the oneY A. think tDis IS IT, SIR.
o. No1 was there any other letter produced
there and il so by whom aud in what form A.
When Mrs. Triton came III she came up Into the
the room and think
and Mrs. Ti:on sat oown at a little table inside
the room, and Nj. Tll.on b. ought TO her paper
mrs. 1Ilton turned aud looked up 70 me and saiu,
"My lriend, ought to write thisr said TO ner,
"EZabeth, II that expresses your sentiments
don't know WHAT'S in IL, but Ii 1t expresses your
views, don't know any reason why you should not
copy IL" ana with that she sat down ana copied the
letter out from the paper IN NJ. Ilton's handwrt-
ing ana sic ned 1t III my presence; then asAed hr.
Triton Tor MS letter; the understanding had been
that there was 10 be letter all round; ne SAID
that he hadn't yet drawn up any; That he hadn't
made up his mind; then SAID, putting my letter
back in my pocket al will walt further develop
mentsr and ended the interview substantially.
q. Did you at that time read the letter OF Mrs.
Tilton, so that you can--S A No, sir; didn't read
q. only sa her copy9 A. Saw her copy the paper
that was in the handwrlting oil Mr.. 1llton;
neither read his paper, nor did read her letter
her copy.
q, SO that "exripit D, 40 you can't say from
your own knowledge that you have ever seen
A. don't know what .exhiDlt ID, A. was;
never saw the letter that Mrs. Iilton copied.
q. Identify That for tue purpose 81 the evil
deuce. A. Wen, / don't know anything about
this, sIr; never read it.
q. At that time you never read It. A. don't
know that have ever read it since
q. Now, at this interview at which Mrs. T1lton
was present the interview OF tine 9th at which
Mrs. 1ilton was present A. Interview OF what,
Q. Interview OF the goth A, The 2sthS Yes, sir,
o. AT which Mrs I1lton was PRESENT. A. Yes.
sir.
q. Get that interview separate from the other.
Did you say anything OF TINS KIND TO Mr.. Tlltonr
sand MIR. Beecher said that II i would never turn
back upon nIm he would join win Mrs. IIlton IN
making denial, hut 1t Will be idle Tor me TO deny
tins story, leaving you at liberty at any time 10
publish my letter to you through Mr. Moulton; but
II you Will give me your word OF honor that You
denial OF no effect, will give IN such cardgh
A. No sir notaIng OF the sort; nothing.
U. Now, OId you then and there wr1to card 1T
Mr.. Mouiton's tabe-this letter OF yours. Diu ron
write 1t thereS A. brought 1t down there to the
house IN my pocket written.
o. Now. Ia TINS letter OF yours which have just
asked your attention to-tne letter brougn; there
by you-occurs this sentence :-'My acquaIn lance
with Mrs. Tlllon has inspired me with hugh es-
TEEN Tor ner modesty, propriety and womanly
graces." Mr.. llton, speaking OF that letter,
Ti.ton az my request, aud was the author or thar
sentence.n Is that tTues A. put that sentence
in from my own heart; Mir. Hilton hau no more TO
do with itthan ne mad with
rms FORMATION OF THE ANGELS;
" .. Il was IN the letter as you brought ItS A.
Yes.
Mr. Evarts-The card IS preceded by note rom
Inc witness-ar Evarts, Is not that among
Mr.. Eyarts-No, SIR; that ia their exhibit. we
produced II, but they out II in evidence. IL was
paper In our possession, not IN their possession,
but was produced by US at their call and put In
evidence by them and so marked.
ar. Beach, understand this preceding letter
to MIR. Moulton was on the same piece oil paper
The Wttness-lt was.
Mr., Beach-Ehf
The WItness-lt was
Mr. Eyarts showing paper)-This Is the paper
D. WE'LL slrf A. l think that this letter was q
rewriting OF the one brought down there from
i. WellY A. There was q conference between
Mr. Moul' on and me as to the substance OF the
letter that should be written, and the purport
OF it-wnat grounds 1t was TO cover. and 1 drew
one up and went down there, ana, III recollect
rIght, read IL 10 Mr.. houlton before he went out,
aud think that there was some suggestion that
IL should be addressed to him. or that there should
be some change made, and that went into his
change suggested by him; this Is my present i'm
preston.
q. mat n with this note ? A. Yes, sir.
Mr.. Bescl-YOu think, now, you did write IL
A. think wrote the paper In the house, but not
III the presence OF Mr.. Tilton, or under any su2.
2estIoB 1 recolect sitting on the side Of the bed
and reading a letter TO him while
HE TOOK SHORT NOTES ON MS KNEES,
while he sitting on the other side OF the bed;
took Il away. because would not let that letter
60 into his hands.
.. You TOOK the letter awayi A. took the let
Ger away.
Mr.. Beach-Both or them3
The NItness-Tney are on the same paper.
Mr. NOTES.-The original draltf
The Wltness-Yes; the letter that I had pre-
pared-the nnal form took away; don't recall
ANYTHING about the original draft
Mr.. Beacn-He h expressed that
o. Now, was there any conversation or this
Kind, Mr.. Beecher at this interview, IN rel.
erence to that card or Its publIcaton9 | read
from Mr.. 1iltOn's evidence, ''Mr. Beecher said to
me, In gong away, tnat there was only ono
danger In publishing his card, which was, that
on some future occasion II he and | should be at
disagree menL and should publish his letter from