The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-06-23

and TOOK the moor iii support OF the bill. his was
the nrst trouble between Mr.. NC iure ana
Governor Tllden. Thar was All | mad 70
40 VITA the costisan bin ia Albany
voted against the Clvll Justices bill in the
Commttee on organization / thought II was an
outrageous measure; tnat II was con-
csntIation o. power IN one or TWO mems
tnat 10 was taking the right oil franchise away
from the people The people know better whom
they want IMAM any central political organization.
never asked member OF the Legislature TO vote
for or against the Till. openly expressed myself
OPPOSED 10 II. | found air. Kelly and tue Commit
tee on Legislation for the last Six weeks OF the
session making BARGAINS win the republicans on
by senator Fox. Tins was in violation OF every
resolution passed in Tammany Hall for the pas.
three years. | did not oppose any rapid transit
measures.
REpoRTER-What are your opinions on the re-
cucuon OF laoorers' wages ana the trouble IN
lamnlny Hail relative therefor
Mr.. MoRRIssEY-l think the reduction is an out
rage upon the poor man, liz was done 10 make
little cneap capital In attempting 10 reduce city
taxation at the expense OF the workIngman. But
SEQ Mayor wickham aud his Commissioners nave
taken 8 Jod care not TO touch their own salaries.
FIVE per cent taken of OF the salaries or New YORK
city officials and their subordlnatcs would amount
to vice as much as can be saved by his grinding
process OF the worklngman, WHO only earns, on
an ave rage $500 per YEAR Those gentlemen, Con.-
missloners and Mayor, have taken sos oi TINS
small pittance. Ninety out OF hundred laborers
IN TINS city are democrats. II That Is the way Tor
q democratic administration 10 MAKE itself strong
don't understand It, In my Judgment IL Will lose
the democratic party $4,000 votes u ire rule Is
through The State.
MISTAKES or PRESENT TAMMANY LEADERS.
REPoRrER-What DO you think OF the general
policy OF administering affairs Ia Tainmany Hall
by the present leadcrship2
Mr.. MoRRIsEY-I think IL will prove fatal TO the
party. There are three commissions IN the city
composed OF two democrats and one republican In
eacn. The republican Is made President oi eacn
Board by democratic votes. There are AZ least
$1,000 o0 OF patronage IN the three departments.
There are twenty-one places at $4,000 per year IN
the DocS Department. do uot tnlnS the Tam
places. The same thing exists IN The FIRE De-
partmcnt and Charities Commission. / have no
objection personally to any OF the appolntees the
Mayor has made, but IN my Judgment they uld not
one or two exceptions Many men are az present
In the Organization much more deserving VI reeog-
milton than those VINO nave Already received ~ II
services are 10 be rewarded. No party can live,
In my Judgment without taking care OF the people
wno do the actual laoor.
OF political opponents from n personal standpoint.
lie refused 10 converse on sucn topics and, light
ing cigar, remarked that he had an engagement
up town and the interview ended.
BENJAMIN WOODS VIEWS.
HERALD reporter also called upon Mr.. B.n-
jamin Wood, and on Introducing himself re-
Marked
''Mr. Wood. understand that you are one cl the
democrats who have determined TO oppose Tam.
many Hail at the next election: Will you be kind
enough 10 tell me what are The real causes which
have prompted this opposition
Mr.. Wood expressed a reluctance to talk on the
subject, out finally consented, and the following
conversation ensued:-
Mr.. WooD-The mismanagement OF Tammany
Hail in he nrst place mas more IMAM anything else
acted as a demoraliZer. Iammany has not done
Its duty. the poor people OF the city have suffered
they never suffered before since Iammany
came into power under the John Kelly regime
Inc Tammany organization has been controlled
for years past II not oy dishonest men, at least by
incompetent men. me lauorng classes the
skilled mechanics all working u, IN fact, are de-
termlned TO oppose Tammany 1T the next cleo
elon. Tammany as al present constituted docs
The refusal VI Tammany to denounce, as 1t should
have denounced, the plan 10 reduce
THE LABORERS' WAGES
has OF itself Lett the organization open to destruc-
uon.
'sWho are the leaders in the new party move
ment Mr.. Wood ~ inquired the reporter
,'rhere are no leaders," answered MIR. Wood |;
''there are no leaders, in the ordinary political
sense OF the term. Inc movement Is backed Dy
the democratic masses 1t Is virtually without
leaders; II movement packed by tue people, not
by politicians. the difficulty is not IN tnis move
meut IN the leading OF men, but the keeping out
OF 1t OF men VINO anli-fammany sOreneads.
and VINO would lice to make capital out OF II. The
movement Is Ia the benett Oh the masses, aud
every one who has been disappointed In ONCE
keep out OF 1t. We want none OF them. The nist
ana greatest objection we have 20 Tammahy Is
tnRt the General COMMITTEE, instead OF represent
ing the democratic masses, represents the feel
ings and prejudices OF one man only-John Kelly.
What the movers IN the new movement demand Is
not absolute control OF ever, tnlIg, bur they do
demand tnat men OF good common sense snouln
nave something 10 say ABOUT city politics. The
men who now control Iammany Hall are afrai
70 let men OF brains or Independence become
prominent
.'How Is the antiTammany party to be or
gained w
of a cali WIN De drawn up and eacn Assembly ois.
THOROUGHLY ORGANIZED.
RgPoRTEE-ls the opposition 10 be on a local
Mr.. wooD-The OBJECT OF the opposition Is to
save the democratic vote Tor the party In the
state as well as rue city, Nine democrats out OF
ten are uIsgusted with rammany. Go where
no tail n ~ IA gnn
ju lily, for their INABILITY to paw ther rents anu
Tor the miseries their families are suffering nom.
RgP9ErER-How about MIR. Morrissey
MIR. WOoD-MOrrisSey rs a shire wd man. lie sees
that the mlsmanagcment OF Tammany Hall VIII
Insu.e the defeat OF the organization. He as
likes TO be "a loser as he has always been winner.
Ills oppo sltlOn 10 Ianmany Il not 20 much against
TamInany against Kells, whose mIsmanage-
ment. he believes, will defeat the rammany
nominees He consequently wants TO get away
from tue sinking snip, although he has worked
hard aud spent mucn ume ana money tor the or
ganlzation.
THE LEADERS.
REPoRTER--Who are the prominent democrats
opposed TO Tammany Half
Mr.. WOOD-Wel, let mo see-I need not mention
names now-evcry democrat who does hold
once and does not expect an appointment or q
nomination Is opposed to Iammany.
REPoRIER-ls IL scided that no combination Is
TO be made with the republicans oy t1e anti
Tammany demucrataY
MIR. WooD-It appears 10 be the opinion OF those
opposed 10 Tammany mat IL IS best not TO have
anything in common with the enemy. The anti
Tammany movement Is TO be . warfare In favor or
cannot be transferred 10 me republican party by
any combination or any set OF men. IL ~ true
that mere and there, where there are local favor
ties tor local offices, the antt-Tammany democratic
vote Will not We y unit.
REPoRrER-wIl the anti-Tammany democrats
put separate ticket in the Held for local Officers
TO DC elected next NoyemDerf
Mr. WOOD understand that they will. Tne
most competent men are TO be selected for all
local Offices aud every nominee must DC an out
and-out democrat thus every man who votes
the ticket may rest assured that he
VOTES FOR DEMOCRAT.
There Is more likelihood, IN my opinion, or Tam
many HAMS making combination with tue
puDlcans tnan the democratic ORGANIZATION that
Is TO oppose rammany, judging rom tue way
1ammany at the last session OF the Legislature
mace bargains vita the republicans secure the
passage or certain measures anu TO prevent the
passage OF others.
REPoRTER-rnus lar what are the indications
IN the various Assembly districts OF success for
antl.fammany democratic orgauzatlonf
Mr. WooD-fhere IL eyerT promise OF success.
Tammany Hall could not poll TO-DAY one.talrd OF
the democratic vote In any one OF the Assembly
districts provided an antlammany democratic
ticket was Ia the field.
ltEpoRTER-Have the city congressman been