New-York tribune., 1875-05-12
Mr. Evarts-Exact,y. But I want facts.


Mr. Morris-That Is what am trying to give you
Mr. Evars-I do not want him 10 testify where NO was
"when Mrs. Palmer says he somewhere else wheh
the question of what Mrs. Palmer really does say Is
matter Of estimate or argument Your Honor mas n"u
your attention called It, the jury have She says
that certain took place somewhere irom
Sour TO six weeks before the LIST OF May
Judge Neilson-Before the 18th OF April
Mr. Eyarts-well, we say before the 1st OF May.
Judge Neilson-She corrected that and fixed II as the
time when she moved into her house
Mr. Eyarts-I do not understand that she did. That Is
matter to be debated hereafter But, assuming that
abe did the facts that this wituess introduce are
where he any dates not where he was during an
ambulatory space of time. mentioned in Mrs Pamers
testimony.
Mr.. Morris-I will get at It.
Judge Neison-I think the witness state the gen
erai fact, where he was.
Mt Evarts-He state any fact as to where ne was
NJ any time. That do not object to.
Mr. Morris-That is what am asking.
Mr. Eyarts-But not whether he was here at the tme
that Mrs Palmer saws he That is not the proper
way to examine witness You will compare Mrs' ram
ers testimony with his when you have got them poth'
Mr.. Morris-Well!
Mr. rvayts-Now the witness has been allowed to gye
with entire freedom and with such information as he has
gathered his whereabouts never have objected 10 that
But as for saying hat he here OF there when MIS-
Palmer saws that he was somewhere ese that s to be
made out by argument, when we compare where ne was
on his testimony with where she SAYS he was
Judge Neison-I think, Mr. Morris. you can very prop
ery ask witness whether on any day during una.
space OF time before M Of May or before the loth Oh
April he was at the Office and saw Mrs Palmer
Mr.. Morris-Well--
Mr.. Eyarts-He has negatived that fact entirely Now
let them show where he was
Mr. Beach, propose this question, Sr-for we may as
well end this debate and get at some practical result
rro tho wiinessl Mrs Palmer estes that from four 10
six weeks prior TO 18th Of April 1872 you was at tne
Office of Mrs Woodruff. and the scandal was then eAmo
tied or produced where was you at that tmef A.
Mr. Eyarts-That VIC deny. We deny that she says
that
Judge Neson-wer that is to be considered hereafter
Mr. Evarts- Undoubtedly; and that ia where am
trying put the whole mater-to limit the withess W
the facts and compare his view OF the facts win
Palmers view Of the facts upon the evidence o each
Of them.
Judge Nelson-I think he can answer this question:
DIR Evarts
Mr. Evarts-what is the question:
Mr. Beach-You have been talking about 1t you ought
TO know what it is.
Judge Neilson-The stenographer will read the ques-
ton.
The Tribune stenogapher read tho last question as fol-
iows:
Mrs Palmer testhes that from four to six weeks prior
to the 18th OF April 1872 you was at the Once OF MIS-
Woodruff.
duced; where you at that timef
Mr. Evarts-That object to. as the question assumes
that Mrs Palmer has said what she has not.
Judge Neson-I subject to the question or doubt on
that point ITO the witness You can answer the ques-
ton. A. Twas out West, Sir.
Mr. Evarts-Your Honor will note our exception
Mrs Palmer also that after the procession OF the
17th of December 1871 broke you rode with Mrs. Wood
hull to her house. got of the carriage and went n
Is that truei A. That is not true.
O. Were you in carriage during any portion OF that
procession A. No, Sir
O. Did yOu go after the procession broke up with MI
swintona A. 1 went a short distance with Mr. Swint0n
of the crowd and parted company with him. think
on the corner OF Broadway and FOurteenthst.
O. believe you have already stated that you did not
them in the procession at any timei A. did not
O. Either Mrs Woodruff or Miss Claflinf A. No, Sir
nor that they in it until after the whole
efair was
IL Eyarts-That is in The Or.Cnal examination.