New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-30

drift Of the "uo Story" tho drift Of the
statement which he made.
O. Now, specify, Sir, what matters in tho "S0ry."
az 10 appears evidence you think omitted In the
statement made 10 you by Mr.. Tlton occasionf
A. cannot recall at this instant but single that
can say positively think did not hear and that Ia
statement In which he says Mr. Moulton returned ard
reported TO him the conversation with Mr. Bcecher and
he took 1t down In notes; never heard OF that AIN
sure, until I read II In the " True Story
O. Well with that variation. L understand your TIM
preston to bo that this "True Story" was the paper
which Mr. Tlton unoldod TO you upon this occasionf A.
No, don't say that is the paper.
O. Well what else siri what else is there A. can
say Mr.. Beach, that there Is any subject treated OF
in the True Story" that not alluded 10 In that con-
versaton that evening; but say that my impression
that the True Story" produced Is more ela'
and perfect document than was read To me That
night.
O. whyi You that its phraseoogy ia changedt
A. Somewhat; yes Sir.
O. Somewhat but tho subjects upon which IL treatcd
were the same A. The same ~ / remember.
O. Now you mentioned In your testimony in answer 70
Mr. Eyarts that you know that that papertha is the
paper that Mr.. TitOD read-cOntaned statement on
writing from Mrs Tlton informing her husband that her
friend Henry Ward Beecher had solicited her to DC
wife to him. with all that that implied. tReadiDgI II
recoect the statement, given that day to he substan
TALLY the statement here" Was that the StOrrs letter
that you referred TOT A. don't think tho Storrs
letter, Sir; but think that
O. Well what was it, A. 1 don't know. Sir, what 1t
was.
O. Havo you seen anything from Mrs. TiltOn In this
case informing husband that Mr. Beecher had solc-
tied her to be wife him. with all that that implied
except the StOrrs statement A. That Is the only paper
/ have seen.
O. Well, but this-you say az know that the paper
contained O statement VI writing from Mrs. Tllton'
A. know it said 1t did.
l. G. Well what did II say about writingt A. IL saids
A" I quote in substance, 1t says :" quote from MIS-
Tilton's handwriting statement that my friend, Henry
Ward Beechcr solicited me to be wife to him, with all
that that implies that Is the substance OF what hs
purported to quote from his wife that day.
O. Well Sir as that was, substantially you say, IN com
formty to the produced perhaps you can give me
more accurately the statement by referring to this hyos
can get your eye upon iti A. doubt whether cant
but still | will see.
@ Well we will find out what this states. at any rato'
PAPER shown to wtness] A. have my eye on 1t. Me-
Beach.
Mr.. Beach looking at the paper at place indicated
by the witness l-we don't help it. You don't thins
1t was the paperi A. No, Sir don't think 1t wI
the stors paper; my impression Ia this interview 90
Cured before the Storrs paper was written.
O. Yes was aware Of that DO you recollect the teS
tmony OF Mr. Moulton and Mr. TtOn with regard to tho
time when the True Statement" was preparedt A.
Generally do.
O. That after Chri5tmasthe last part of Decein
bert A. That it was completed then
O. Not prepared theni A. No don't recollect that
testimony, Mr. Beach.
O. You donti omitted to ask you, Mr. Tracy.
whether this interview with Mr.. WoodruG-either OF
the two asked your attention to other than thd
one after Mr. Moutons studywhethcr you said, In lan'
guage or substance to Mr.. Woodruff that II the thing
referring this mater to be covered up, that M
more money must pass 7 A. No, Sir.
@ Either that or anything in substance' A. No. Sir
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SCANDAL.
0. You have spoken, Mr.. Tracy of on inter-
view at the Fifth Avenue Hotel; at that interview
question considered to the propricty OF Mr. MOu
producing the in his possession before the
Commteel A. Between myself and Gen. Butler do you
meant
O. At the interview at the Fifth Avenue Hotel; you
and Mr. MoutOn differ as whether he present and
therefore did not want to incumber it. A Yes Sir
think it was-I think 1t was
O. Well, that was relation to the papers which had
been referred to by Mr.. Tton, wasn't i'll A. IL was IN
relation this and to Others the conversation took tive
| forms, Mr.. Beach, as remember.
@. Well, do you say that A. Ycs Sir; mean
| 10 say that.
O. As a matter OF positive testimony A. Yea, Sir:
that two different ways discussed. two different
modes Of proceeding discussed that night or sug.
gested for discussion and discussed or less, and
am inclined to think that more than two were.
Q. Well was the subject considered in the two aspects
first whether ALL do not to give the order Of the
discussion but merely to separate the branchcs-frsts
that whether all the papers in his possession should 10
Produced second whether those referred to by r.
Tilton should be produced A. Yes Sir the discussion
went in those two aspects, am sure
O. You recollect that the call OF the Committee upon
Mr. Moulton for the documents referred to by Mr..
Tilton, do You mott A. think there oall-one Of
the calls by the Committee that that construction was
placed its language; am not certain whether there
was any broader call than that or not.
O. Wel-tReadngl
We earnestly request that you bring all letters docu-
ments in your possession which are referred 10 ny IhcO-
dore Tit0n in his statement before the Committed
A. Yes Sir, think that one form; have an ir-
preston that written, but used slightly dnerct
| language, but am not certain.
O. No. Sir you testify about It matter OF rcco.
| lection don't give the impression. A. wont.
! Q. Just make yourself certain upon that point; web
Sir at that interview did you advise request that thd
papers should be prOduccda A. You may say that ad
viscd or requested it; can tell what said
O. Well | am endeavoring avoid long crossexam'
nation IL can, Sir and to get at some leading. prom
nent facts; have no objection your relieving your
self. A. don't think the word advised" would bS
strictly applicable, because don't think Mr.. Moulton
was present; different stage OF that interview the
| word advised might be appropriate.
Q. Very we'll not standing upon phrases
Sir. A. Well, suggested two that l thought Mr
Nloulton could honorably pursue under the circun'
tances.
Q. Well, don't care to go into that A. Ana III ne
| other sense did advise OF request, think.
O. Well. | want to know whether you advised or re
quesed Mr. Mouon to present tho before the
Committee A. do think that put my suggestiona
either In the form OF advice request think my suS
| gestions were In the form Of statement OF what II