The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1875-02-09

| fnd was much mistaken.
Q-Won't you describe to me the early
up TO the time you became assistant
editor? How old were you when your ac-
quaintsnce commenced?
Al think when was 10 or II.
Q.-Did it begin when you came to reside
/ in Brooklyn9
| Al think before that.
| Q-In what form?
Al went to his church and was associ-
ated with him on the Independent.
Q.-He was in his maturity and strength
OF life then?
Al don't know what you consider ma
turity.
Q.-what do you consider his agef
A-About IS.
Q.-Was he man of mature years, and
settled position ia his profession?
! Al always regarded him as big boy,
and not man at all.
| ON what sense was he a big boyf
A.-His manner was large, hearty and
companionable.
| Q.-Guileless?
/ A.-No, sir.
i Q.-Does not that come within the deserip-
ton OF boyf
! A.-No, sir. The craftiest people know
are boys.
Il O.-Youluse the phrase in the sense of gen.
erosity of demeanor?
Al meant to say that there was a certain
bouncing way in his manner and he was
fond of things that boys are fond of. /
thought him the most charming man ever
knew.
Q.-Doyou think that you were right then {?
A. had not had the experience j have
since had with men. l loved him next to
nv father.
Q.-Up to what period did you retain those
, feelingsY
A.EAs L mingled with the world my idol
became dim. met other men, his peers q L d
, | superiors, as I grew older.
Odd these rivals of Beecher come into
, as intimate companionship with you as he
! did7
Al don't know to whom you refer.
When came to know Charles Sumner
> ranked him higher intellectually, morally
: and socially than Beecber. / also ranked
! Horace Greeley higher intellectually and in
! every way. must say I was never SO
intimate with those men as / was in my
early life with him.
! Q.-Give us the dates when your opinion
began to change.
a A-In proportion as 1 enlarged my ac-
quaintanceship here aud there rose above Mr.
: Beecher. He was still great man. There
: were great men before and there will be
!. great men after him. The change was imi-
. perceptlble in its progress and beginning
= Q.-How early did there come to be any
q GOODNESS in regard to your affections tol
i | Beecher?
= = Al don't know as there was any great
y GOODNESS between us in consequence of oui
, political difference. ] understood that be
= was very sore in regard to my comments Oh
: the Cleveland letter.
| Q.-Do you ascribe the change in your sen
. timents TO him or yourseiH
= Al think it was in consequence of my
~ own growtb. was not responsible for Mr.
!, Beecher's betrayal of the republican party
y in 1866. He was, and his church rose agains
; him and he retraeted it.
= Q-When did you come to the conclusion
:. that he was not so great intellectually as yor
v supposed?
A.-When was about 26 or q years old
! Q.-Do you recollect when you concluded
q that Mr.. Beecher bad come to his intellectual
q growth?
Al do not.
% ON your discussion with Mr. Beechel
# in regard to the missionary appropriation
= did you not think you had over matched
and beaten him?
!, Ale was wrong. 1t is not difficult tC
over-reach man who is wrong.
nj ON the Cleveland letter matter did yol
" not think you had over-matched him?
~ A.-No, sir. All did was to enter ms
y protest against the crime against liberty tina
letter committed. If you ask me TO state
- that crime will.
= EvaTts.-No, no.
g The witness said that he and Beecher wer,
- always personal friends until 1870. He fire
~ quently visited Beecher's house, and sskeS
y Beecher to visit his house because whateve
r ENJoYMENTS
he had be wanted Elizabeth to share. Ii
le always considered himself very much hon
10 ored when his wife was appreciated. NJ,
D. first prolonged absence, said he, from hom
Or on lecturing tour in the West began il
70 70 1864 or 1865. These continued up to 1871 an,
q to 1872 and lasted from the fal
on to the spring. l do no
In remember asking Mr.. Beecher to visi
Il
. have done so. The last time I visited hi
sd house, think, was in 1861, when brough
TO o commission in the army from Washing
:. ton for his son Arthur. Owing to disposi
q ton on Mrs. Beecher's part, stayed ava
W afer that Mr.. Beecher regarded my &C
- ton for his very great service. NJ
-, purpose was affectionate and he so under
,S~s stood Il. He said that had saved membe
y - of his family from destruction. 1t ha
10 relation TO his son, who had been out of th
Ss army and afterwards went back into tb
Vi army had a portrait of Beechor, for whie
-. ne sat in the fall of 1868, and it was fnishe
- in the spring of 1869. told him that
W wanted the portraits OF the men who ha
been connected with my early days and II
ter9sted in the cause OF liberty. These me
oi were Greeley, Phillips, Sumner and Nj
d. Beecher. That portrait was sent to MOultOn
to in the summerof 1870, to the best OF my recoi
-. lection. The receipt o: 800 TO pay the artit
oii for the portrait of Beecher was placed in ev
zee dence. One or two little incidents occurre
is before 1870 in the demeanor of Beecher an
les Mrs. 1ilton which drew my attention
3 a them, but nothing occurred later. FC
by many years Moulton and I,had been IQutui
ay friends, and an affection for one anotA wi
he very strong. lasting from boyhood MP
nd the present time. After the destructio
To- OF my own home MOalton's house becan
ar. my home. But was there a great de-
he from the 1st OF January, 1871. Prior to IL
", 1st of january, 1870. rarely took my rnea
rec ut bis house, but we we're together very fr
me quentlv. After my difficulties there was +
man in my esteem who could be so Te