The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-03


where was somewhat doubling whether It could
possibly be- true that Mr. Moulron said 10 me.
sitting IN his char, win intelligent look,
why there is no doubt about that, Mr.. Beecher.
Elizabeth TIlton loves your little finger more than
she does Mr.. Tltou's whole body;n accepted 10 (;
had no means OF CONTRADICTIONS said 10 my
sell, "lt mas been smouderng nre, burning con-
to say, lit Is not my iault;' ielt rather the I'M
pulse suppose, which every gentlemen VIII an
derstand, say, II should have Ioreseen as the
Oldest man--the eldest person; was the Que tnat
had experience; she was child; II she hadn't
Known it. tnat Inc tendrlls OF ner affection were
creeping up upon me- ought to have known It,
and expressed my sell without measure on that
subject; and alluded IN tnat conversation TO The
conflict wnlcn mad, the sense oil the feeling had
always had Tor her. as Tor sainlllke person, and
the conflict that now was in my mind IN respect
TO her, as only that had been broken down and
had brought these false charges against me, and
had taFen them back, and was ing ike one
tnat was oerelt oil reason, and tnat tue
two mages-I could not understand it;
4 much conversation passed backward and for
set against me; that he felt that was his enemy,
| that had done wrong to him IN his business rela-
/ tons and that had sought TO undermine MS IN
nuence IN the community; 1t was the harder be-
cause the Implication mas Tor the statement that
had made use OF my acquired reputation and my
THE HEAD OF GREAT CHURCH
and my relations to the community, with all
those aside from my mere personal action, had
grown TO oversnadow ana injure him; protested
against any sucu idea that ne mac occasion 10 think
that had done him wrong in the matter or Or.
Bowen was ashamed 10 be obliged TO admit; that
had done nun Intentional wrong Sin N rs family w.
evident IL seemed to me from the present condi-
tlon aud action OF Mrs. Iilton; we'll we went over
rne same ground good many times, running
out INES aud going into something else
and that brings US back again and on the whole
| Mr.. Moulton was very less severe with me than
was with myself, and at times, as 1t Were depre-
Gated my own strong language against myself,
ana said, as the interview drew toward close.
that II would only-that II Tilton could only near
4 what he had heard, he was satisfied that IL would
remove from his mind anlmosity and the convic-
ton he had that was seeking his rum; / said to
him, state what you see and hear; nave opened
ments or some OF them TO Mr.. Tilton; y and at
first thought | would, but | was IN
wh ana SAID f leu NE sai write de s cd
something to that effect and ! SAID, Il have
no objection 10 your writing ~ and ne sat down
amplhed aud went on. and finally ne SAID To me,
"Well, will say 10 him. ana ne made something
and looked up Il VIII tell MI. Triton so-and-so,n
1 as a sort Of Interpretation OF what | had been
saying; set 10 right, aud he made memoran-
and SOMETIMES ne would say, 'sWhat about So
and-so?n and would 20 on talking, and he would
through the wnoe memorandum; when he had
gone through with il 1t was about five O'Clock; on
4 Sundays | take tea ut five O'Clock I'm order TO
have time to prepare my notes Tor evening", and
the bell rang Tor five O'Clock; ne rose up
from the table and gathered up tue
papers; they were on separate sheets, and
SORT OF aterthought came TO him;
He SAID, ''slpn tuis; you MAD better sign - i
said. mo, can't sign letter haven't written I"
..Welln said me- III won't have the innue ce with
Mt Triton tna5 wiz Yap II mas ySar ou
N
Y that and talk OF those points 10 ar. luton, and
tell him what you heard me say; he believes you |;
better II you put your name to it in some way and
let hin see you authorize it;' and 50 on the edge
4 OF The paper, or near out, and remote from the
4 reauing as | could from the text ] signed my
name TO a statement
\ II COMMIT rms TO Mr. MoULToN IN CoNFIDENCE,n
and at that stage, think he gathered the papers
up, made some remarks OF qualification and went
down stars; 1t ABOUT the time OF gas lighting
when ne went Out, and tnat ended the interview.
u. Mr.. Beecner, during that interview was TINS
memorandum read 70 you or read by your A.
Neither.
Beecher rose grandly at this moment There
were many moist eyes in the audience. Shear
man and Howard wept proiusely.
1 O. Was any part OF il read TO you or by you 2
A. No part OF II; 1t was the last thing that was
q. (Showing papen-saY II that is the writing
which you put upon the sheet ? A. think that
o. Now. this memorandum or Mr. Moulton,s,
wnen did you next see ~ A. In court here.
q. At this trial A. Yes, sir.
to be any copy OF IT, either IN print or In writing,
or partial copy A. mink, perhaps, IN the
\ Q. But the paper ITSELF or whole copy oft, you
i have answered distinctly; when first did you see
or know OF, see or read. or hear read, any copy OF
Il this whole paper the paper itself you never saw
until TINS trial A. No, SIR; never
full text or what purported to be the iull text OF
this paperS A. Not until the summer OF 1874.
q. Not until the publications Of the last summer
q. As part OF some OF the proceedings OF last
summer A. Yes, sir.
Mr.. Evarts handed him the paper and resumed
the examination, as iollows:-
/ q. During TINS conversation OF this day did Mr..
Moulton lay before you the condition OF mlsior-
tune and disaster IN which Mr.. Iliton and his
AFFAIRS were placedS A. Yes, sir.
/ q. Give as near as you can what he thus de-
/ plcted to Jour A. lie spoke OF Mr.. Ilton as being
standing among the highest in tue land, and rnat
he mad suddenly by the III Will or the misconduct
4 or Mr. Bowen been precpitated from, perhaps, the
PRoUDEsT POSITION LITERARY MAN COULD ASPIRE
To,
and that he had not simply lest that place, but
lost II under circumstances that damaged ms rep
4 utatlon: and that not only nad the means OF MS
4 reputation. or rather not only had the means OF
II influence gone with MS reputation, but tnat sud-
denly, with large family UPON his hands, Or an
expensive family, or some word 70 that erect, his
\ means we're cut OF, and that ne mad no prospect
In lie except 10 reDuild all the accustomed ave-
nues were suddenly shut up 10 MIN; ne then said
\ the man mad no nome 10 which he could iall BAGS
that there was dIscord, there were alienatIons.
and that he mad not only thus lost his public posi-
ton, but ms domestic position was also stormed;
he described the condition OF his family, with the
little CHILDREN pteously.
q. during THIS interview was anything said BY
Mr.. Moulton as TO your blaming yourseli more
than you ougntg A. Yes. sir; on several occa-
sions he said he thought was putting It too
sti ong; that the matter wasn't so severe as mad
laid ii upon myself; he thought that the family
relationship might with kindly care be repaired.
q. DID he, when you were stating 10 nim what
YOU understood to be the fault or misfortune from
your connection with us family AFFAIRS Say that
II was anything Inherent or q her than what you
stated it9 A. (empnatlcallyl No, sir; no, sir; ne
did not; IL wasn't a con0emnatOry interview, lt
was a sympathetic and most friendly interview
between MIN and me; there was nothing IN mis-
Tone nothing Ia his manner, nor IN his language,
charges that savoTed oil that.
q WHAT point or ann dld he have In the inter-
view, as you understood
Mr. Funerton-No; what did he say? what did
he sayg That IS objected to.
BY Mr.. Eva ts-Q. How did he express himself
In regard TO any OBJECT result OF the interview
A. He was laborinR to bring 10 pass sucu recon
+ cffto n r. a
understanding. each OF the other, as should avail
for the peace OF that family and for the restJra-
ton OF Mr.. T1ton TO prosperity and to good
name.
o. DID Mr.. Moulton attempt or oTer any expla-
nation OF Miss bessie Turner's story A. Yes,
though not a. as much length as he did at subse-
quent interviews.
O. Well that day 7 A. was trying 10 prevent
the uer form in my mind, but he said ~ was
narmIess tnlng-mIsundeIstOod nY the cnLld: sne