New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-06

A. first heard OF it from Mrs. Henry b Stanton.
Mr.. Evarts-wen, never mind.
The Witness-Ah!
Mr.. Fullert0n-When did yOu first hear-fretf A. In
she beginning Of the month OF May, 1871.
q. Where were you when you 1rst heard 10 A. In
Mrs Woodhul'a parlOr
Q. From whom did you hear that
Mr. Evarts-Well, | object 10 all that.
Judge NeilsOn-I don't think you can give that.
Mr.. Evarts-It is not important when Mr.. Andrews
first knew 1t.
Mr. Fullerton-It ia important 70 know when Mrs
Woodruff became acquainted with il.
Mr. Evarts-Ths don't prove that.
Mr. Fullerton-Yes it does shall prove that the
muncaton made IN the presence Of the witness "
Mrs. Woodruff.
Mr.. Evarts-A communication
Mr.. Fullerton-Yes Sir.
Mr. Evarts-The difficulty Is that that don't show H.
Mr. Fullertou-I can't show two things at time;
will show one.
Mr. Evarts-I object to this evidence not admissible
in the cause, and not evidence in rebuttal
Mr. Fullerton-Wel, Sir it Will be cOntendeh on the
other side that this scandal was communicated TO Mrs
Woodruff by Mr. rton They think that they have lad
the foundation such charge that and certainly
IL competent for us meet 1t by showing how Mrs.
Woodruff possessed OF any knowledge upon that
subject, and from whom that knowledge was derived
and to show that point OF time anterior " the
Introduction OF Mrs. Woodruff to Mr. Tilton
Mr.. EVartS-Nell, tnls NltllcsS ctnuOt pIoNe t'a''
Mr.. Fullerton-He can prove part OF IT,
Mr.. Beach-IIe can prove just that.
Mr.. Evarts-He cannot prove it.
Mr. Beach-He can prove it; he can prove that tie
subject was mentioned to Mrs. WoodAu before he intro
duccd TiltOn TO her.
Mr. Evarts-At a certain date he can prove that the
.ubiect was mentioned by somebody else; that don't
prove that Mr. Ton had not mentioned It, nor does IL
prove that that was Mrs. woodhulls first knowledge
OF It.
Mr. Fullerton-I believe have your Honor's perm,-
sion TO 20 with the proof.
Judge NellsOn-Ye-, keep within the bounds
Mr. Eyars-If your Honor please object 10 this evil
dence as being within the and not evidence I'D
rebutta Note ourexcepon OF course It s hearsayi 10
Il mere talk between Mrs. Woodruff
Judge Neilson-rhe objection TO taking the converse
ton or declarations OF thud persons remains You can
not give her conversation you prove the fact
at a certain time
Mr. Fullerton-rhdt is what attempt To DO
Judge Ncilson-A,ccrtdin whether that was priorto
the pubhcaon-that at certain time TINS suDec' Was
communicated, if you can.
Mr. Evarts-Weu, the difficulty, II your Honor please,
r. that the whole Of conversation IL does not ceaso
to be conversation from your giving the result Of IT,
Mr. Fulerton-That is the way we prove what one yer
son said to anothcr-by the conversation.
Judge NeilsOn-That is the way you prove That notco
is given OF a certain thing
Mr. Evaris-There are, OF course, special cases, IN
which the fact OF certain knowledge IN person IL ma
terial that permitted to be given but this If not
that case az all This is undertaking 10 prove by con-
yersaton between this gentleman and Mrs Woodruff. or
bet ween persons OF whom they constituted t~o that AZ
certain date there was conversation about this scandal
at Mrs Woodhls office Now IL is admitted that tha'
IN sef is not matter Of evidence at any stage OF the
case unless Mr. Triton or Mr. Beecher were connected
with it that is plain Now. how does 1t become evidence
bere-by what circumstance The rules -rcter now
than they are in the introduction Of evidence IN chief
Mr. Fulerton--It certainly Is proper for us TO show
that Mrs Woohull had knowledge OF this scandal prof
TO the publication Of her card in May, ISL Il proper
for us TO show when and by whom the communications
made.
Judge Neilson-If she the stand yon could put
her the question ~ course and N certain limited de-
gree you can ask this witness.
Mr. FuertOn-Andit Is certainly extraordinary mat
conn hold thar that no eyidence-tha that wac the
first time she ever heard OF IT, II counsel alleges thai
she knew IL before will admit IT,
Mr. Eyarts-Your Honor notes objection and eI'
ception. We suppose it Is very Objectionable.
Judge Neison-Of course you think Is OF you "oo
not make the objection at all
MI Eyarts-wr that the nature of 1t is mad
mssible and that it is especially in regard TO this
stage OF the case understand your Honor excludes tho
conversation.
Judge NeilsOn-Ycs
Mr. Fullerton-I should think understood by tine
time, If il ever Will be.
Judge Neilson-Go on.
BY Mr. FullertOn-Will you be kind enough TO state
whether at any time, and so by whom, the facts con
nected with this scandal communicated to M.
WOodhulli
Mr. Evars-I object 10 that question II is wholly OBJ
jectionable
Judge Neilson-We will take IL.
Mr. Evarts-The question is Objectionable; 1t assumes
that they They certainly may ask the ques
ton whether this scandal brought the notice OF
Mrs. woodruff.
Judge Neilson-Put your question in that form
Mr. Evarts-ro ask the witness whether the facts Of
this scandal were
Judge Neilson-Put your question In that form.
Mr. Fullerton-u your Honor rules that my question is
improper I will put it in that form
Judge Neson-There Is shade OF improperly IN IL,
undoubtedly Put II in that form Was the subject OF
this scandal article communicated 10 MS woodruff
m your presencep
Mr. Fullerton-That question you may answer now
MI Evsrts-That object 70, and except Your
Honor will note exception.
The wltness-It was communicated 70 her by Mrs
II. B. Stanton, in my presence
O. whenf A. I should think the Sd or 4th Of Nay,
1871.
O. wherei A. In Mrs woodhull's parlor.
O. Was it before after your introduction OF Mrs.
Woodruff TO Mr. Tltont A. should think IL week
or 10 days prior TO that.
THE ROSSEL PROCESSION.
Q. Mr.. Andrews, do you recollect the Com