The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-20
Action Of the Steamship
Company.

Irwin.
The witness was asked how he came to say In
his correspondence that leading members OF the
committee, particularly Mr.. Dawes and Mr.. Beck,
were slow In the pursuit OF news.
The witness replied that he based his statement
on circumstances apparent to everybody. He
found that evidence had been brought before the
committee, but that the committee had refused to
subpoena the witnesses, mentioning, in this connec-
ton. tile name of Whitney, brother -n.aw OF ex-
Senator Cole.
SLOW Committeeman.
In answer to question the witness said he
could not ascertain whether the committee were
endeavoring to find Whitney.
Being further pressed the witness said when in
New York ne heard variety Of opinions as 70 the
fact OF the discovery OF money In the hands of
Represent ative Scnumaker and that this would
produce effect on Mr.. Beck in the committee.
The witness was frequently asked for. but did not
give the name OF single individual from whom he
alleged to nave received his information.
MIR. Burchard, OF the committee, asked-Do you
know OF any specific thing done or omitted to be
done by either OF the gentlemen, Messrs. Dawes
a. Only from circumstantial evidence.
Mr.. Dawes, OF the cOmmlttte-Did anybody tell
Yd0 any paRIicuiar thing these gentlemen did or
a. cannot now answer the question.
Mr.. Dawes asked the witness whether he knew
Of anything whatever to JUSTLY the remark
The witness replied that he had relied on state.
ments and rumors anu could not say that ne
Q. lsit not true that you have not the slightest
1acts and mad been informed that the committee
had not subpGned Mr.. whitney.
M Mao informed YOU A cannot r e 3n
mittee or OF any officer connected with Il, whether
M. whitney had been summoned The witness
replied, he did not make such inquiry. The DIS
patch OF witness, dated January 4. was read, In
which 1t was said that the leading members OF the
and others, who we're particularly severe in de-
nounclng Irwin, and calling for an Investigate
had become sngularly silent or slow In the pursuit.
of facts.
MIR. BECK CROSS EXAMINING.
Mr.. Beck asked witness-Did YOU ever hear me
use word IN denunciatlon OF Irwin Ii 80 state 1t.
Witness replied that ne obtained his Impression
from what TOOK place before the committee and
the House, aud addresses and speeches. ana the
by Mr. Becx-You named me A. Perhaps your
vote indicated 1t; was an impression from the
evidence created III my mind.
Mr.. Beck-There is not word OF truth fniG A.
/ think am wrong but my dispatches, generally,
may modify the language as errors occurin tele-
Alter further interrogations, to which the wit
ness did not give satisfactory replies, MIR. Beck
asked, "Have !, IN any shape or form, done any.
thing to let up on Schumacher ~ A. was SO In
formed in New York several times.
Mr.. Beck-Have failed to ascertain any i'm
portaut Iact from SchumakerP
A. only know he has not been called before the
Mr.. Beck-Did you not know that Schumacher Is
A. do not KNOW.
MIR. Beck-Have the committee failed to ask
A. don't know that they nave.
Mr.. Beck.Do you not know the fact that schu-
a. was told IN New York, at the Atlantic and
Pacific Telegraph office, think by one OF the
clerks, that he mad seen Schumacher In town, he
having been reported as having gone away.
Mr. BecK-What Is tue significance OF that state
menr9
A. SIMPLY an inference that the committee had
not found out where he was.
DAWES AND THE IRWIN STOCK JOBBNG.
Mr.. Beck further lut errOgated the Witness asking
him whether he did not know that the COMMITTED,
While IN New YORK, made full and close an eX.
animation OF witnesses sse Us ane time allowed and
the committee had omitted 10 DO anything they
ought to have doneS
he had stated in his dispatches that the commit
tee had refused to examine Mr. Irwin on the point
OF stock operations and that Irwin said tO him
that Mr.. Dawes had torn out page OF the evil
dence on the subject.
not examine MIR. Schumakerf A. Because he is a
democrat.
Mr.. Beck-And you thought somebody told you
A. was told check had been traced to you;
the statement came from party whose name
do not recOlieci
Mr.. Beck-I want the mans name.
A. think IT can be verified by FAINT.
MIR. Beck-Give me the mans name. II is O lie.
A. 1t was not Stated TO me as fact; did not
THE AcCUsER's NAME WITHHELD.
Mr.. Beck again asked Tor the mans name.
The witness appealed to the committee to ex.
cuse MIN for not mentioning the name, az ne had
MIR. Dawes remarked to witness that no member
OF the committee Will interfere to relieve you rom
Mr.. Nlblack, of the committee We are IN
earnest and mean business.
The Witness-The information came from q
friend Of mine; simply ask indulgence; 1t IS i'm
possible without first seeing my friend give you
his name. ash received the information IN conf
Mr.. Beck SAID as he was charged as being the
guilty one, he wanted the name OF the accuser.
A. The party who gave the Information gave 1t
as hearsay
Nj. Kasson, of the committee, said the witness
should give the name, and the committee should
follow up the matter.
witness said he considered the question as
sacred to him as information impaired by client
Mr.. Niblack remarked NO more sacred than
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power over tue gentlemen in the gallery.
Witness taiter nesit Ation)-i decline to answer,
giving the name until see the party.
Mr.. Beck said to witness the man who told
you utteredR base ana malicious lie, and his name
ought to be given to the committee. Will you
Witness-If you give me until tomorrow.
Mr.. Dawes-Ws will not give you until ro-mor.
Mr.. Beck again urged witness to give the name
OF ms informant, but witness replied that ne had
published no positive statement, and said he had
published that the Interrogation of rant was
telely by MI. Beck as far as u appeared In the
publication OF this he could satisfy the gentleman
Mr.. Beek-I say to you now you can have no pri-
vate Intercourse with me. Whatever you cay
must be to the committee or &C the bar OF the
House. There Is no use In saying you can satisfy
me
Mr.. Dawes-Do you decline to answer the ques.
ton
4. do at present; want further time.
Mr.. Beck-I want the witness brought to the bar
OF the Louise Immediately.
EVIDENCE ABsTRAorED FROM THE RECORD.
Mr.. Dawes asked witness whether Irwin said
that he tMr. Dawes) had taken from the evidence
q single word Of what he testified TO before the
committee.
The witness answered he did not know whether
the evidence was sworn TO or not, but II was
something written out BY Irwin.
Mr.. Dawes asked witness whether he did not
know q statement was written by Irwin outside
of the evidence and appended to the evidence
without the knowledge or the committeef
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