New-York tribune., 1875-01-15
THE FIRST PROPOSED STATEMENT.

THE FIRST PROPOSED STATEMENT.
Mr Fullerton-Go on and state what communica-
tion-what Tton say Mr. Beecher upon that
siong A. Mr. Tlton said Mr. Beecher: Mr. Beecher there
thing this which you stand you can
stand any part Elizabeth has stated that you solicited her
wife you together with all that that implies and
will read you that part Of the sement and be did read
Mr. Beecher that part of the statement
O. Now what did Mr Beccher repy' A. And Mr.. Beecher
sad Theodore you might just well state the fact az to put
in that way; and Mr Beecher said after that interview
that he would stand in the position OF who had so
cted avors from and be put In the position OF ons
who had been rejected by her and told him ympathzed
with that view of the Laughter and applause.I
Judge Nelson TO the audence-Y have the advantage
to-day because Of your numbers but certainly have the power
protect myself tomorrow morning The audience has be-
hsycd very well to this moment want you TO be STILL 90
not want your opinion upon this subject in any form.
O. What reason any did he give for making thas Hs
gave the reason to me- Sir subsequent the interview hs
went on at interview and said to Mr. TOn "Mr Tton
you do just you please but think you ought
not to publish that it will kill me If you publish it,"
Mr. FuertonI shall have put the original perhaps at
some future time
Mr. Beach-Dd understand that Mr. Ton present at
this time A. Y9s Sir
Mr. Fulerton-I your attention TO st further inter
view month OF December 1872 when Mr. Carpenter was
present DO you recolect such meeng' When. what,
SIR
O. Do you reoolect such a meetng-when Mr. Carpenes
present A. In the latter part of December, 1871
@. Yest A. Yes.
g. Before go that however let ask you what
Mr. Tton assigned foI writing this statement referred to in
your last interview A. Mr. Tton ad he thought would be
necessary give the public information concerning tho
story Victoria Woodruff that the reason he guye.
O. Now go to the interview where A. had afurhcr In
teryiew with Mr. Beecher on that subject.
O. Well it A Yes; had further conversation with
Mr. Beccher the subject Of that document and told him
that had said Theodore Tton that he must not publish Ii.
would be cruel publish against his faulty and
against Mr. Beccher and that had received from Theodore
Tton promise that he would not publish it and had him
put it-I told Mr. Beecher had him put into certain po.
and agree take it from that spot without my consent
and Mr. Beecher thanked for this interference in his behalf
O. 1t was not published, was it' A. No, Sir.
O. Now the othe interview in lSs At which MI Carpentec
was preselt-what occurred theni
Mr. Beach-The latter part Of December 1877 A Mr. Car
penter spoke with Mr. Beecher about the establishment Of
O. First tell how got together A do not know
believe Mr. Carpenter and Mr. Beecher together to my
house
@. What Mr.. Carpenter was III A. Mr.. Carpenter the
artist-Frank Carpenter.
Q. Now what occurred. A. he wanted Mr. Beecher
he said to Bcecher "w you entertain the idea Of going
newspapers Wonldn't it all trouble If you should
resign your ministry and so into paper And Mr. Beccher
said willing take such subject as that into consider
alton and that was the substance Of what occurred that
interview
O. Well what was said the paper' Give the inter-
view at length well you recoioct s A don't
member much more about It than that.
Q. Do you recolec what time In December this wast A.
The latter part of December.
O. What anything said at that time about the length
OF that Beecher had been pastor Of the church,
think something said about the Is years that he had been
pastor.
Mr. Evarts-By whoml j. By Mr.. Carpenter Mr. carpos-
ter referred to his ilustrious eareer-said to
Mr. Beecher "You have had an il!usrus career
as preacher TO me that You could step from
the pulpit into Journal and all these stories against
yourso from being todput it in that yew-in some saot
way as that; forgot the substance OF it,
Mr. FuieronDh yoa hear anything moro about that pro
position aerwardp A. Yea Sir
Q. From whomi A. From Mr. Beeehsr and from Mr. cas
pehter
O. When they were together' A. No; do not rcmemba
that they were together.
O. What I'D Mr. say regard to II any subsequent
time had an interview with Mr. Beecher In regard TO
mysef dscountenanced the proposition; told him he hsd
not better accept any such proposition the peace for him to
work the pupthere is where be belonged and 10 80
out Of the pulpit would be virtual confession Of the Wosdha
story and the rumors against him.
O. What did he reply to that anyhingf A. weL that s
what he told Csrpenierhs what he said he would tsu
Mr. CARPENTER and believe he did tell Mr. Carpenter
Mr. Evarts-Tha you do not know anything about' A.
do not anything about tha-whche he told MI Gar
pentor or NOT
Mr. Pullertoa-Do you recoect what was termed "Ihs
Letter to My Complaining Friend" which was published IN
December i32! A. Yea Sir remember something aeoaih
O. Did you have any conversation with M Beeehef aes'
ward aboutit : A. Yes Sir
Q Did you the letter in the newspaper a les S"'
O. See II you recognize that as reproduction ot H'
Mr. Eyarts-what Is the date Of thatl
Mr. Fullerton-That is December 1s72
O. Do you recognize that the letteri A. Yes, Sir
Mr. Fulertou-I offer Il In evidence Geadng)
Mr. Fullerton lines and then stumbled In the rese
ing and At the suggestion OF Mr. Beach that be had better s~
| IL over again, began again as follows;
TIE LETTER TO CONTAINING rBrsSp
| No ia LIVINGSTON SrRkEr, l
| BRooKLrs December "a, 1879
NY CONTAINING FRIEND: -, s,,
Thants your good letter Of bad advice You say ow
easy to give the lie wicked story and thus eng t
eyer" But stop and consider The story whole library OF
sta.ements-a hundred more-and would pe strange II
some OF them were not correct though douqt any are Te
give general d9nisi TO such an eheyco-
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