The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-09

letters. | think the learned counsel objected very
strenuOusy. This doctrine was then appledl
Of winch ne now taxes advantage. Aud
ruled rhat Mr.. linton was at ltOcrfy 70 explain
In reference 70 any use OF those extraordinary
exnressiOns ne USED. | think saIi something IKE
this "A writer c0d no allowed 10 state the cT-
cumstanc,s ana state OF mlnn he was ~, A. ~
example, that he haa me govt and mad been lnree
nlgGts withouf seep and tne IKE; tnereupon MT:
Triton was allowed 10 explain hose passage and
explain ms religious sensiDillt.es In connecuoh
with rnem.
ar. Fullerton-Ifa man mad the govt that would
explain everything ne might say. lhere would nov
be any necessity for questioning 0 tnat snbIec'
but Your Honor Will perceive rnat tnat 10 d. ner-
ent question rom the one lnVOlVed now very
different question.
Judge Neilson-Take the last expression IN this
Mr.. Fullerton-We have been six weeks eX
planning what those devices were. think my
learned rlend tue other side knows what they
were. IL IS very plain. don't think at this late
DAY there Is any doubt about what the devices
mir. Evarts-I want TO ash what he had in his
mind when he wrote the letter.
Mr.. Fullerton suppose Inc fair inference II
that he had IN mind those devices which mad been
alluded 20 ana mad been the subject OF conversa-
ton.
the question:
The question was read BY toe stenographer:
Mr.. Evars-Now, sir, ~haG devices mad you IN
your MUD IN that clause or your letter
Judge Nelson-l think we VIII take the answer
Mr.. Evarts-Please TO answer
Toe Wltness-Tho situation was that OF man
who was bankrupt in every way and whom we
endeayOrn1 to TeCupefate ana restore; tue
devices were, among othe . $4,000. 500 anu
$500, along at different times during the period,
and various otner things that helped Nun ana de-
wees OF smoothing the prelndices against MN and
OF preventing men talking 10 his disadvantage
and everything else that wou'd
HELP HIM 10 BECOME MAN AGAIN
man, mean that mad come TO disi4yor and Ie-
stored himself.
Judge Nelson We'll, toe phrase 'save our
selyes' Mr. Beecner, the last clause
The Wltness-Was the partnership; we were all
in tine same boat together; he had his reasons
way ne didn't want the matter TO come out about
his family and had nv reasons.
q. Now, SIR, ask your attention to this clause:-
He had condoned his wlfe's fault ne had enjoined
upon me with the utmost earnestness ana solem-
nifty not betray his wife leave his children TO
a blI1nt.n what fault OF bis wife and what fact
had he enIolned. aud In respect Of what TACT mad
he enj0ned upon you not 10 Detray MS Vile nor
Mr.. Fnlerton-Nuw II Your Honor please, that
Is asking Tor an interpretation OF theodore I'll
Judge Nellson-l think that question Is oDlec-
tlonable.
re .ers to some matter oil fact IN the expressions
which he used IN this letter. My Inquiry was
simply to ask MN what matters oil TACT they were
Judge Nei son-I think counsel might ask him
what facts and circumstances he referred TO IN
writing that clause.
Mr.. Evars-Mr. Beecher, answer. please.
The wltnesS--l understood the matter TO be SIM
lieved 1t was that his wife had transferred to
me her affection; that IA consequence OF such
transfer sue nad led to the separation between
herself and her husband and TO the almost
BREAKING UP or THE HOUSEHOLD;
that regaI ded as her auit 80 lar as he was con-
cerned, and which he nad forgiven.
@ Now, In the next clause He mad enJolned
upon me With the utmost earnes ness and solem-
nifty not betraY his VIE leave his children to
a blight" A. Tnat was part OF the interview OF
February 1871, wien were in the STUDY ogether,
and when We mad very cordial interview In re-
spect TO his own character You wiz recall IT, sir.
O. At his house 7 A. At MS house, when ne
cleared himself before me OF all the mputatlons
and charges OF impudiclty AMI OF lntemperance
and want OF care OF his household aud what nor,
come up, to tue Misunderstanding that had passed
between as, and desired IN tne most earnest man
ner that the state OF things between him and his
wife should not get out and should not be known,
especially That ANYTHING should not ger cut tnas
had reference 10 the Iact that Mrs fton mad lett
him at all and came back again under the plea OF
III usage.
al shall write Tor the pu0lc statement that Will
bear the light OF tue judgment Day. Did that
express purpose tnat you had at the time A
Most certainly 1t did; had never kept any docu-
meats, nor any records, nor maze explanations,
o. Now toward the close OF the letter, you say
.'tnereioIe there Is no use in urtner trying, try
Ing; have strong feeling upon me- ana IL brings
sunday aud preaching my last sermon;" now,
SIR what fact or feeling In regard to yourself. or
your health or condition. did your reier 70 III tLat
clause "A. Nothing Whatever, except FELT so;
felt so, not at that time alone; tnose conversant
with nv ministry know very well what that
mir. Fulerton-Wel, object 10 that. opject 10
that.
fact about yoursslff A. nad no facts about my
sell, except tnat Is the way lelt
z. When you wrote tnatS A. When wrote
8. Now, Mr. Beecaer. In regard to temperament
In regard TO DEPRESSION OF spirits. what Is the fac.
IN regard ~ yourseliy A. | nave the very best and
highest; pity ANYBODY WAC mas any worse ones
than do az the otuer ex remes; think good
exhaustion continued Orings me down sometimes
into single daY ana sometimes into consecu-
tive week u the most profound depression.
a. Does 1t 20 10 the extent vi hypOcaondra? A.
Ii dld IN my boyhood; think that as nave .rown
oder anu tougher tsal ~ stops 10 that oi profound
sadness rather tnan IN me niore deveiooed form
OF hypocaondrla, waicn mg iather mad anu ances-
tors
o. Now, Mr.. Beeener, have you at any time dur
ing this course Of talngs bad In mind aay
PUhPOSk o. suiCIDkf
o. aave you ever expressed any such purpose
TO any oneg A. No, SIR.
q In waat sense lhen Of the nesrness OF death
have you used the expression OF being near the
emu OF your llieY A. IN tue sense OF sentiment or
OF q leeling, aud not OF a purpose or a desgn.
the trIpartite agreement 70 when we nave Deen
referring, dtd aaY ntng o. TINS kind occur AZ Mr.
Moult0n's house on tue part VI Mr.. Ilton's saSing
~ YOU, "Ar. Beethef the publication Of tnls
tripartite covenant puts me IA the positlpn or
man having 0een iorglven ~ you o. % ne cri,hei
any such position as thAt; nov want you 70 set
that right or viii publish tnIs cdrd;i an ne pro-
ceeds TO say ne had caro- for publication, iuto
wnich was Incorporated the whole OF tue letter OF
cOutriuon 81 January J. 1870; u y m'sprint,
1871; now, cir, AZ any interview at Mr.. MOulton's
house these tast you have spoken oil or any otner
that followed THIS puoncatiou OF the Tlpartte
agreement. did any sucn thug as that occur De.
tween you aud Mr. TiitOa A. IL dId not; never
saw the card nor tue thing ne would puolsni 4
only heard Ol tt from Diners.
q. well. tnls card IN wnIcn was incorporated a
part or tue wnUle VI tue leitsr or cOntrIti0n, you
have already stated you dldn't see A. never
saw 10.
U. Did anything pass between you and Mr. Til
ton OF that KIND, saying tnat you put nlm IN toe
position VI man hdSlug forgiven nlm-what did
bassg A. No. slr, no slr--nOtntDg.
2. NOW, alter ar. llton nad ieit-ii ne nad oeen
there-dld you say TO Mr. MOutoa n theodore
Tllt0n paDnsned that letter II would simply be ais
deasn-that Is, your deatnf A. did nOt
y Now, when you proposed II you would make
q reslxnatlUn II puDicauOn made, did Mr..
Moui on say 10 you that that as a virtual con-
fessOn OF crime anu 10 was an act 81 cowardice on