New-York tribune., 1875-01-15

b. Irwin and some days after Congress sdlournee,
ana safIs i. T.ss
what we can get Il is ali right" he handed me $500
in bills. and went to NewYork that same night: 70.
suppose is uaneoessary 20 ask you oun usei A.
Tdd must say that t was a very liberal compenss-
tion for the moderate amount of work wn'oo '"s' GU"
teta bs nature Of the services rendered by you
Simply stating on OIL fssr OF the measure that
nS ~ !, seod measure; had right TO say that
because. old Californian sst friendsbip for
,hSss sSousSt well OF the iine Thought that
Sons TO the dogs and that II these ships to be
built this country IL wodd give on impetus 10 S
sheuildng tnSagnt taat sSesay na Sns y ao partca
lariy as the Cunard Steamship Company had snus"y
colossai suscess wanted TO see the Amerioan aag
flying again the seas, and would nave un
Pacific Mail Company without one penny Vi o''i0"'"
O. You used all your influence TO secure the passage OF
the subsdyi A. Entirely There was not much tlme 70
act: only fortnight think. rather agreeaoly
snrnse at being retained because that clinched ms
determination 10 do what could lor "hat fek"fuo"
as a great National enterprise. ,
MR. WARD KNEW OF NO OTHER SUNS BEING pi'
BURsED.
O. Do you know Of any other sum Of money being palo
TO any parties for their in procuring that SUD
sdyi A. never heard OF and, until was su.priseu
the other dag by Mr.. Aberts list which Sc" 10 t"e
Star never know who was 10 the combination. oio
not tno that there was any combination except that
found that people generally were very iavoraoy u
cned toward the bill did not know M AUsrt IIa Ir
win nj the day the vote was taken, when saw paie
man standing around this corner and was toid that
O. My question was iiiyou knew OF any other sum OF
money being paid dTeSy or indirectly ~ SS
with the subsidy A. Not penny. might nave Deen
at liberty to suppose that the whole thng was eonnneu
TO Mr. Berret and myself -
Yes payable to my order On the Metropolitan National
Bank Of this city. ,, -. ans, ,a,,
ber officer, or employee OF either House oil Congress III
connection with that subsidy A. No. Sir.
marked that there was great deal OF difficulty In gem
tleman living Ia Washington on the oxygen OF the atDo
to DO somethngi A. This business Of lob6yIng as it
called, 10 as precarous as fishing In the HeoIides
comes storm. and away you are driven. Everybody
who knows anything about Washington knows mat ten
carried but once a while pleasant htte wlndfsn
OF this kind recompenses us, VINO are always iol
Lag am Sot at ali ashamed do not say that am proud
but 1 am not at all ashamed OF tho occupation IL
very useful In England II is separate branch OF
the legal profession. There they have Parliamentary
lawyers who do no other business. There the commit.
in Parliament all night; whereas here com. com.
mittees only allowed TO st Tor an houp Nde
bills in a session The dsappontments are much more
numerous than the successes have had many d xeag
everything appeared prosperous aud certain, and
would not insure any bill If were paid 30 per cent 70
subsidy matter think that the gentleman (lr. lr-
VIM paid more money than he need have paid.
Mr.. Ni0lack-Aud he distributed lt TatheT Dauy
Al am satisfied with what got. IlIauShleI'I
HOW LOBBYISTS WORK.
Mr. Nblack-You got much less than others eot' A.
do not know. / was retained, suppose, because the
Kings name is @ tower Of trength,"-llaughterJ-
and 1 am called the "King Of the Lobby" But
am not the treasurer OF the lobby; that ID
certain If you were here for entertainment could
entertain you with histories OF welc0ncerted pans
which all disappeared Just at the crack OF one
accident you cannot tell which We who are OF the
regular army know when we are wnppeu.li Ia
but gentlemen of little experience como down mere anu
peg and peg till the end OF the session. ana never
Understand why they had better go home lLaughterl
referred 10 the proper COMMITTEES, to that some
bers in that Committee underStands IT'S merits 10
10 H. 10 watch it, have counsel TO R0 and ad
vocate il Committee 10 see that members OF
the Committee do not oyerseep thelns1aes M on .1o %
morning Of important meetings TO watch the coming III
Of the bill In gress day after day. week after week.
TO have your men on hand dozen times sud 70 Lave
them often disappointed, 10 nave one ross SI tnoss
storms which tspring MP In the Adrauc OF congress
until they say to themselves that they win not go up TO
the Capitol today and then TO have the bra suddenly
flushed ana aSs M q yT%r fe Of the obby sush
teri Another pOnttne question oil nteitainlnents--
as teri ainments OF refined order lLaug6teTI Tai
eyrand SAYS that diplomacy Is assisted by good dnneis
bnt at good dinners people DO not TAX shop
bnt they give people who have taste In that way
l cht perhaps TO ask gentleman ciNh question:, ana
u
clients want, and that eau properly be given some
times q railroad man wants lniormat0ni somelhnosa
hard yht U.aughterl TGen broker wants to know
what the Treasury going TO 90 ABOUT certain uess
ra sometjmes banker Is anxious about the n1ancial
movements In Congress, merchant about the tariff
All these things 10 constantly ana We 90 ho MAKE
anv cnarge for them. We keep up certain circle OF
friends and once in while an opportunity comes of
ge:tng something that ID OF real service ana Tor Shc
comDeusatiOn is due and proper Bat toe entertain
lneuts are prOportoned TO the business OF tc sess0n
when the business is good, SO are the enerainments
and when the business not RJOI Tue eh'e'lannen'S
are meager lIIaughter,l
Mr.. Irwin tod me a story OF = King OF Spain who was
]osi in the woods with his huntuR partJ he ordered
one OF his attend TO climb tree, and see whether
there was any building 10 sight the man stw
s9eaG a}S of US go here TGSy vent and were received
at the OF the ehaeeu by the grsndoe WITH his mead
the party wanted dinner. The family had uIed an
hour before. AMI the servants had consumed every,
thing that was left The cook sent for, and said
His maiesty would bo served In an hour's time They
had a very pleasant dinner, ana the klns Was rather
After dinner commencing tue ex:olenGe OF the repas
he asked what II composed Of Luckily IL was not
Gams e.DsS in and said, your Majesty. animal has
contributed It's life 10 your ana ne Went 70 9
cut off SAID the King: a man VINO can make such a
repast that from the ears OF ~ p'S'' Snail pe 'ue
Governor OF province" lLaushtcf.I
Ex-MAYoR BERREr RECEIVED No MORE IIAN He
Mr. HiblackIs there not great des Of money wasted
or good dinDerst -k'e
Witness--I do not thuk money is wasted good
q dinner; IL dimes badly he forgets to say his
prayers gong bed; but II he dimes well ne feels like
q saint. ILaughterl
of fact had received $4,000 instead o: $1,000 A No.
did rot anything about until saw lt mentioned
in the papers Il quite right he probably did more
work than did was satisfied with what / got.
Mr.. Ward gave his testimony-or, rather, delivered
his humorous at the end Of the table
with his twinkng, his face beaming with good
humor and his noe person presenting evlnence OF his
being not only In belief but in practice disciple OF
the gospel of gastronomy He kept the members OF the
Committee and q numerous audience IN constant
laughter.
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