New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-08-17

tbeta, aowsses regardless Of the fact that 1t never
was n,ads. the reason Az you this notice OK.
t.ordiaary entry here this paper Estimate Of worR
donc under Mr. Tsrn and under Mr. Scott, and estimated
by the attcr In accordance with tho instructions OF the
ixstfns Comu,issoners want TO know who, Of
this Commssiou. ever gave you any instructonsi A.
No one no. -.
was nct'rn cTcayation snd hoy ms,h o. w.s mbypG
that tho ercsva1on had not been made; can you tell
A cannot tell. . s,
Asoa bow a s . a9gsS e 70. p s az ,s;
bp.t recollection A. There all that and too,
according 70 the estimtc but some Of t2as don't know
.SP & s2 ara EEs ssas from % i.ss
what about ths actual quanhy ~ SOME u the
' o Do yoa want thst answsrs A. AFTER rcaeetingI
Ne. sr. - .-f.ll
ACTUAL AND HYPOTHETICAL EXCAVATION.
By Mr.. Van Buren-How you have more csrof
ftaH the Whole thing A. That 10 what tired 10
pkan tn MT. Sweet tine other dag. ....
O. Do You know about how many yards of earth were
excavatod under this contract dnns the time you wers
there! A. Yes Sir.
O. About how m.ny yards were actually excavated
during tue time you there; spcgk now Of ac;usi
excnystioni A. Daring the time WA there. 70
yards.
O. Was that the whole amounts A. Ycs, Sir
O. rhon where did you get the eKcess OF 3.i0o yards
estnatesi A. That included IN Hypothetical
slope back Of the vertical walls
O. Between wiierei A. Between the arbitrary slope Of
10 l. and the vertical plane in the rear OF he WALL
being actually eKcayated according 70 Sorr best uds-
meat, A. cannot say anything aboit IT don't know
q. Why don't you know; were you not there' A.
o. You are asked jsst this simple question, How much
cey ation ACCORDING, to your best kno~lege ana All 0
light y S Lad A THAT Say: yss Ia yy stg' We.
sir; in that J .12s yards 10 an assumed allowance
. oibow much tel me first how nle., thsrs vas Of
cavat.on IRE actually made that embraced in thin
ASS 4. say 1888 yards.
su ~ aS ao oa a. No. Sir '"' '' o'' ."
O sou understand the answer TO be that 1928 yards
yoi al the excavation that N WA Necessary IA
make in srdcg TO do this work FOR when yoa have given
estimate o. l2s5 yards ,1 vn rS" HiT vour s.
mates for the work that done during the time
had ellarse o. ia A. 2,237 yards; f., .,, % ,
q. That woald make dhrereoce u i.oi. yardsi A.
O. And you allowed an estimate to TN, contractor Of
1,eI2 yards that he never excavsted at ahf A. fes.
q. That is your judgment and your oath' A. Yes.
O. And IL your ba recollection, now fortified by the
mcasur,meuts you have and all the data you have be-
O. And from an actual examination Of the work since
yon have been called here FOR examination VITA vie" to
asc raining me truth A. Yes Sir.
~, hnndsn. arowance for all the excavation il became
necessary for this contractor to make and mat he DID
q Yon aIiowef4o him in your estmstes foe wort done
under yoUr immediate supervision 22o7 WHOM Ought
TO have been only ,z25, A. Yes. sT.
You aiowsd g him IN g0ss S cs waGH cone
gate OF 1885 yardsi A. Yes, SIR.
q And the difference In What had been estimated for
dufng the time you used te work anl sist you
allowed for was z II yards A. Yes, iir
Y. How dad you arrive o tina. qn3htity a. ~ caseu.
amount included between slope OF 20 ono back ~
the walls at Ike several points and the hne OF te bclch'
mated at thes" peints.
q. Now, tGon, you get 2,Ils cubic yards thai you
allowed ior aud ddnt see done; bow much % Tat do
won assume IN he false thero had been other estimates
aud yo had ide calculations Oh large 4nity Then,
Of course. than tho 2lao wosld DC fdsef A. That
O. II ia all falsei A. Yes Sir.
u Now, the distance on wAch you computed II, and
the angles, satisfies your mind that 1t dan arbitrary aud
false al.owanoes A Yes. ar.
q And you undess' AID that the .lis yards included
In that estimate tor work done when you wore not there
was falsei A. Yea sii.
Board wishes OF youto get at The exact aL and jas
tice between the State aud the contractor A. 'eaihy'
WORK PAID FOR BUr NEVER DONE.
O. To summarize it you allowed in yom estimates
forexcavation 3IG0 yards without any facts TO justify
It, and contrary to the tyutl : A. Yes. Sir
C. The expense TO the STATE for allowance fT work not
done was $40 on excavation A. Yes, sif.
O. And without any fact IN Justify I'D A. Yes Sir
O. How much did you allow Tor enbsakmeUt durns
tie sane ,no that il arbitrary and without an TACT 70
Justify IN A. ..6e2 ysr,ls.
o. Amounting to how u1csl agaius. tho Statei A
$3,G3l, 50Io 80 cenis.
O. OF the wosfi that done NY way Of entanfnlent
after you veu here how much allowed ior as being
done while you were thoe in CT arga OF TIE work A
1927 yards; @To was the quantity th" shoi'd DC
O. You know tias no part Of hnt should be allowed
aoeordng To tine terms ~ the contract 4 Yes. Sir.
q. That beng done how tDneh was alloNea 'of lihns
rat lII A.
o. HOW much was allowed fa puddlias A. 2ss
Q Wes it derel A That have not measured
Haying seen art OF il done rlowed the wSoie ,
o How much rock excavation did you allow 3s7
o. Was any % it done durins yoar term A. 2H
Q. How much OF that wus hypothetical A. 20
Q Exiense to the State fcc extra allowance A Al
q Was necessary 20 quarry IS or cod i he dug out
with shovel ana PICK was ]. rotor i",k y n, "
shaly in measure, and goa eU' i,h 90 bn'"
would take n man Quite while to go shoyeifu , .
O. You do.it think IL cotdd hsyo been p.swodt A.
. How muen timbcr dla you give estimates tori AZ
Pil d0chil9 % $40 leet ~: =. -, ot,,o MIN.
Z ErroSs9sl feet 4 Yes Sir n;..,.o, ,.,,,r~ TN
laro a section for the tmbsS; gu i5 too large cii"en-
$40 . The ne true szs gives bu, Loo Wide You Now for
it u3620; difference against chs state S.32i A. fes
5ig. -
q Money difference S17S ~ ; A. Yes, Sr.
q At what price pcr taoussnt st-te the tnc SIZE ano
tlr szs you al ,Yed 70 a.f At allowed ~ I'D nenee
By . inches ard hy Measurement OF hua1er ot sucD
Ifouad tho rue ZION 10 inches by lo.
u. Ihc pNlce was go paF Thousand Z A. f's', S1r
& Difference against tAe Ststo T. Sl1o ~
q OF hemori taere was Row much A. eiZ3S.
O. How much IVES the true QosslItyt a. sc.IiS.
q. Exctsst n. @l3,5T5
{, Mercy difference A. S3i3 So -.
g. Auyling else that STRIKE yosr mind a. q frasa
or The State 4. Do;1n. pine delivered s,3s7 a!lS"e"'
actual quantity, - 200 dE reGcr, 3.0S!.
q, WHAT VIZ IL 4 tlions anif A. Sl5.
o. S4j 90 money dle. nee I \. Yes, sir.
d Anyihng olse, 4. Tdat Is all.
a. Now tell how Inu n thsre was there Tor erfo"
~ ynn knnN In IN .liiiiast 4. SJ.Oos q.