New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-01-08

they had seen through the windows suca and such
things.
q You seem 10 have some little spirit abcut this
tionf A DO about anything That tnink 10 wrong
they know something about therD--sither party.
q You have not either with your partner or with
against either Of these parties, tbenf A. never said
q Rave you talked for or against either of these
Q, Then you do talk for sgainst peopei A. Not on
| innocent.
Q DO yon know Leonard X. Cuff A. Yes. sir.
Mr. Eyarts-Now. Mr. Beach, think We win look st
that affidavit.
M Beach-As a matter of courtesy will let you look
Mr. Eyarts-I will look at It matter OF courtesy
Mr. Beach, do me- think you are entitled to IT, ous
Judge Neilson-fhe counsel ought to see It, inasmnch
O Did YOU in his presence on OF about the iss day Of
this month express any opinion belief OF YOUR
in regard 20 MT Beecher being innoeent' Not that
Q Do you swear that you did Mt A. To Mr.. Cluni
. Yes, Sir; in the presence Of Leonard K Cuff A.
q Do you swear that you did MT A To the guilt or
O Yes. Sir A. No. Sir.
Y No. not guilt; don't put IL In that form Dld you
TO tnat gentleman about the time ment0e, ex'
belief 10 the guilt or inno
cence OF MT Seecherf A. Nothing more than
| @ don't want nothing more than" I want 40
answer yes or no. A. Will answer yes or no, but
want 70 answer 1t as said IT,
Judge Nelson 10 the dror-YOu are bound answer
! this question and you can explain afterward.
The Juror want TO answer 1t way that IL viii DO
understood.
Mr. Beach-Dh you to that gentleman. or in bis
opinion or belief regard the innocence OF Henry
| Ward Beecheri A dOnt think DID
q Do you swear you did not A. have sworn that
O. Wiii You swear that you did mott A. Not whatI
| should understand n opinion.
q Do you understand my question A. understand
your question: but dons understand what you want to
q I want you to answer that question. A. have
| Q. VIII you positively that you did not A.
What is the rest OF tn want to hear the whole OF It.
q. The question put to you was whether you, 70
Leonard K Cuff in his presence, on the occasion
mentioned expressed opinion or not ~ regard
70 the Innocence Of Henry Ward Beeeher A. DO Oehei
statement OF that kind that believed.
Q Any opinion or belief said, Sri A No, Sir.
q, You dd mott A. No. Sir.
| Z You swear positively you did not A. do, nos
@ asked you whether you expressed opinion or
belief IN regard u the innocence OF Henry Ward
Q. Answer it now A. Opinion or beliefl
| Have You had repeated discussions upon this sub.
ject with your partneri A. My partner mas held DIS
| cussiOns, more or less.
O. Have YOU not held discussions with him A. Not
10 the merits OF the case have not have held dis
| O. Have you had discussions with him upon tne ques-
ton whether or not Mr. BeeeAer Vas nnocentf A. Yes
| Sir; | have had questions.
Q. You have had discussions with him A. Yes. Sir;
| nave had discussions.
Q understand you to say that you have had discus.
| Mr. Beecner A. Yes, Sir.
q Have those been rrequenti A. He speaks about 10
@ Have those discussions been treqnenti A. No.
very frequent, have been there good deal
| OF the time.
@. How many times should YOU thinki A. IcOuld noe
! tell how many times He speaks frequently.
q About often nave those discussions occurredf
A. It IS a matter could not tell about how often
| Q You said they were not very Ireqaentf A. Not
| very.
fore, ask you about cow often they have oecurredf
A. Well. occasionally, once III week or two, perhaps
q. For what perlod-rrom the commencement ~ TINS
matter a / have made up my mnd not argue with
him much don't say much to him.
ssk covering what period Of tne-ihe last year = A.
Yes sir should thiuk 1t has been a year since we
| II.
q You aud your partner we're OF different opinion,
upon subject, you not A. Yes, Sir different
opinions on some parts OF 1t.
O. Were you OF different opinions upon the subject in
regard to winch this discussion was had tue innocence
Of Mr.. Beeeheri A. formed any opinion IN
Mr.. Beach, did NJ ask you whether you had formed
Mr.. Evarts-r, is proper answer.
| Nj. Beach, submit it is not
Mr.. Eyarts-YOu make him assume there differ.
enc Of opinion, ana he says he mas none
Mr.. Beach-On the contrary, the Iitnesssanswered
moment age there was difference OF epnion -
! guilt. didn't mean 70 be understood saying any
your partner as ia these dscussons dieredi
A They would on some points; yes. SIR
q VIII yOu state point upon which they diferedf
A. Vel, they would be points he would bring up abous
O. I want 10 know upon what particular subject you
differed A. was trying % tell You
u Can you mention subject upon which you and
your partner differed other than the innocence Of Mr..
Mr.. Tracy-That assumes they did dRer.On the sub
ject.
MI. Beach-It assumes no such thing. ITO the jurorl
Can You mention any subject upon when you anu your
partner differed opinion other than the lnnOcencd
OF Mr. BeecheTl \. Wneu my partner said a certain
know not that knew whether he dId or did not
Mr. Becch-I move 10 strike out that answer.
Mr. Eyarts-Counsei has 10 right 10 make question
ana answer both.
Mr. Beach-Taat remark ia made With great emphasis,
but don't soc the pertinency u It.
Judge NeiIsOn-I think viii let 1t stand.
q Can you mention any subi,ct connected with this
controversy upOu which you and your partner differed,
that OF the innocence OF Mr.. Beecleri A. wanE
to understand question: then l viii answer u.
TIE question ask il whether have nad any arg-
or guilt.
M. Beach-So, that not the question You have
got within gunsbOt OF II.
The Juror-I would Ike to hear IL again.
q Can you now mention aug subject connected with
nocence OF Mr. Beecheri Can you now mention onef
q what IN A. think there has been talk aoous
tmugs-aOout THIS affair that di not agree With hm
ABOUT
@ I want to know what it was; want you to men
Jude Nstlson-What was the point-.he topici
Mr.. EyartsHe says he has answered that. II was on
the very point whether ne had rsAt TO make up MS
mind.
Mr. Flnerton-The witness will get on without that.
Mr. Beacn-Your Honor very well the obiect
Of that interruption. Perhaps lt may eject Ls ooJect
ana instruct the witness
Judge Neilsor-NO that is not intended.
Mr. Beacn-YUir Honor has a right assume that
have right 10 Indulge own opinion on taat subject
ITO the jurOrl-Wei SIR. We are wal lug.
The Jur0r-Well, 50 be l.
Judge Nellson-Perhaps the witness does not remem-
Der your ques lion.
The Juror-I not very clear Of comprehension, be-
ieve TO day; 60 Mt think am.
Mr.. Beach-YOg DOME understand the question You
not very clear OF comprehension to-day A. DOM
exactly unde rstand what your question - IL dd
would try and answer IT,
Mr. Beach, have exhausted my intelgenc In an en-
deIvor AXE you comprehend H. aud will leave It as
II Is.
Mr.. Baach-Yes SIR, that being the only side OF the
case which counsel can make themselves UNDERSTOOD.