The Portland daily press., 1875-04-13

ne gave most emphatic negative,
He denied that he said "they cannot convict
me of perjury" He said that he would
worst them if any dispute came. He spoke
Of her as sister, but never said she was
dearer than any sister in her kindness to him,
knowing his crime. He denied that Mrs.
Moulton said that she thought the woman
as much to blame as the man, and that Mrs.
Triton, the mother of five children, should
know what she was doing, as that was stated
with the implication it carried. No such
took place, but there were con-
versations on the household, sociology and
such topics.
read. as to her having reported to him that
George Robinson had told that he suspected
a misrepresentation of church funds or some
other great crime owing to the frequent visits
to Moulton his partner, who was not dea-
con or member of the church; that she there
upon informed Robinson the CRIME was adul-
terv. and that Beecher said he was glad of it,
as now he could call to that Office more freely.
"No," said the witness, bringing his right
hand down upon his left; mot one solitary
word of all that did she repeat to me. 1
don't know whether she said all Of that to
Robinson but not one word of it did she say
TO me-" The witness added that Robinson
continued to be a member of the church and
he saw him there yesterday.
Evarts here called Beecher's attention to
other statements by the same lady. In reply
to questions put after passages OF Mrs. Moul-
TOMS statement were read, witness said he
remembered expressing dependency to her
ON account of trouble going on in Tilton's
household. She did not say there was only
one way out of the difficulty for him, and
that was by confession. She never said it of
her own accord.
Beach objected to the last expression.
Evarts-Did he ever say it to you at all?
Witness-Never to me; never in my pres
ence, except while Twas sitting here among
the audience. 1 did not say l could not con-
fess because my people would never forgive
me and my work would be done. With re-
spect to editing, did not say that l was a
moral and religious teacher: This
was talked of in Mrs. Moulton's
presence. 1t was twice proposed
to me to turn aside from the
desk and take daily paper, but always 1elt
the idea was preposterous. L never sald 10
Mrs Moulton, nor "they will never forgive
me; they will not treat me as kindly and
generously as you have done did not say
that felt that the truth would come out, or
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to meet it, and she didn't say that to take my
life was cowardly.
Witness stated in reply to ensuing ques-
tons that he did not visit Mrs. Moulton on
Monday. He testified as to the interview.
He does not remember exactly what he SAID
to her about Tilton's treachery. He never
said to her he feared Tilton would publish
such reply as would tell the whole truth
He was at Moulton's honse on the
31st of May and saw them both. He
denied that he was then ying on the lounge
and with his face covered with
napkin. He never was so disposed OF on
the 31st of May. He denied that on the oc-
casion testified to by Mrs. Moulton he got up
with tears in his eyes and excited manner and
said, ut was hard that a life of usefulness
should be brought to close in that manner.
He denied that she said, "There is but one
way for you, go down to the church and con-
fess. Frank will go down with you and be
your friend, whatever happens. You cannot
cover such crime and remain IN your pull
pit"
Question.-And did you answer, 81 never
get from you much comfort; you are always
like slice of the day Of judgment to me"
Answer with animation)-Ihe last ex-
preston should never use in connection witt
of spring flowers to me.
Evarts went on reading Mrs. Moulton'S
testimony to the effect that she could nc
longer believe in him as good man unless he
repented and confessed, and that people
would stand by him, etc. He said that was
all most melancholy falsehood. He denieo
that he said on that or any other occasion
that Mrs, Tilton was good woman and hao
only sinned through her affection for him.
The interviews of the 31st of May were
taken up, and the witness said he often hao
conversations with Mrs. Moulton and spoke
about the trouble in Tilton's house, bu
never spoke of it as crime or sin
or said anything of the fear of Tilton's
breaking out.
He did say that Mrs. Tilton ought to avoid
talking to people about her trouble, and sent q
message to that effect by Mrs: Monlton who
told him she was going to see her, His reason
was that he had heard several persons bad in
truded on Der to talk with her, but be did mo-
say "While she is doing all she can TO repall
the damage done by her confession, shels al
the time making it worse. He solemnly de
| MED that Mrs. Moulton by direct words or i'm
putaton at any time during their intercourse
spoke of the charge OF adultery or sexual Inter
| course between him and Mrs. Tilton, or thai
auy such topic was ever discussed between
| them.
Recess was then taken. Mrs. Beecher's sis
ter, the widow of the late Rev. Lot Jones o
the Episcopal church, was III court To-Day
Judge Switzerland of the General Sessions
/ Court of New York, came into court after a re
| cess in company with his old friend Jude Neil
son, and they held an animated conversation
the two deep bass voices alone being neard 10
/ sometime after court reassembled.
/ Examination resumed.
AS to the interview of defendant with Moul
ton on May 31st, witness said: The word crime
| was nor used by either Tilton or Moulton III thu
subject about which they conyersed. Inc mrs
| notice or intimation TO him OF the charge o
crime by Tilton or Moulton was conveyed t
him at Peekskill by Redpath, IN reference U
the Bacon letter, but the word crime was no
/ used That was the first advertisement that III
was to be accused of adultery with Mrs. Tilton
/ Following the publication of the Bacon lelte
he had ceased TO have conversations with LII
ton. They were rare if at all, but he had con
versa ions with Moulton in March, 1874 aoou
the Bacon publication in the Independent, ant
the reply of Tlton was that Moulton was unwll
ing that Tlton should publish such letter ant
| said he labored to prevent it but that IL Woai'
be perhaps best to let him write 1T out an'
having expended himself on his literary attach
| that this was the way TO manage him.. Ihl
| was one Of the conversations. Witness learned
| that Tlton was to publish what is now caiie'
| the letter of apology the night before Moui
| ton had succeeded in striking out certain harst
| expressions from Tilton's letter
This was the night before Tilton,s letter Wa
published. Witness never read Tilton's lette
| from that day to this; didn't know its contents
except as represented by Moulton. Inc ga.
after its publication he called Cleveland TO nj
house and took the first steps for getting al
investigating committee together. Mouitol
came that day, but there was very little CONVEX
sation with him, as witness had dismissed any
| idea that he could be useful as the friend O
both parties Moulton had with him docu
ment asking that the witness should admit az
Offence" but he merely told Moulton, Il VII
have some friends here tonight and Will see
you again" The proposed card shown him oI
Moulton was handed witness aud he suppose
that was the contents of it.
Mr.. Evarts then read the card which 1T wa
proposed the defendant should issue stating
1T is true, have committed an offence agains
Theodore Tilton and for which l have apollo
gzed. I have committed no crime
Witness said: II don remember much VIVA
was said l had dismissed MOulton's general
ship from my mind, yet he had his pan anl
our intercourse Was cordial, but had made ~
my mind the thing should end. AS thougn
him laboring earnestly l said, II will take II
into consideration" and that was substanti alil
the first interview. AT some later interview
with Moulton the conversation was that IlltoI
had bound himself in the presence of witnesses
that if would publish that he would De con
tent, and Moulton told me that if Tilton gav'
any trouble he would take sides with me ant
smash him. He often spoke of his power owe
Tilton and said he could grind him to pow
der" / refused to sign any such card with tint
equivocal expression Offence" after the publ
cation of the Bacon letter. Moul,on though
the Bacon letter had not brought things to