, 1875-05-30
Tilton at One Time Intent upon Kill
ing Beeoher in His Church.
Ihe II True Story" Regarding Illton's
Attempt TO Expel Beecher
from Brooklyn.
8nw Mr, Evarts Looks and Talks-~-
Alleged Eudeavor to 1nfuenca
the Jury.

1t tomorrow will publish sn intsEyieW, alx col
s11nns II length With q. E. Bowen, eldest OF
T. G. Bowen. In conversation with Times
reporter, heg1ves I brief history OF his fathers
troubles with Mr. Beecher and Plymouth Church.
tho c4uses which led thereto, the persistent
efforts mAde to crush him, End in
connection With the said suit now pending
In Droollyn, he gsvea some Interesting
facts. mr. Bowen has pe1sistentiy refused to
giro any information to the pubic respecting
his difficulties With Iii. Deecher and Plymouth
Church, but hia eldest son. who possesses the
confidence OF his father, aud who has general
knowledge Of the facts, has been found to b7
disposed to talk upon tho subject He saya that
itis
Ehat his father ia tho author and originstor OF
tho scapdal, and hyers that Beecher wAs not
prejudiced against his father until the latter
{BoWen} communicated to him certain d&maglng
facts rel&tiye to him CBeecher)- Mr.. Bowen,
1r., gives several instances OF tho busuess DIFF
HculGea between his father and Ar. Beecher.
He sa~s: In one case Deecher went among tho
eemg1 CATION, telling Soma Of the leading
mon that my father owed him money.
Hs showed statement and papers to convince
thsm that such was the fact, He did not come
to my father aud make claim directly. n he
ought to have done~ TIE znattar. however. Was
dna11y brought to my fathers attention by
ohxEtes Gould. now deceased Mr. Gould asked
Gr. Reecher t he had ever been
10 my father TO present tho claim Ir Beecher
mid "No.~ ''Then you ought 70 do 40 At once"
mid Mr. Gould It was finally agreed that Nj.
Gould should present the case to my f4ther.
When he called, and stated tho taots ~ presented
By Rsecher, my father Was
PERFECTLY AsroCNpED
ut the character OF tho charges. LILY father, On
the spot, said Mos, Mr. Gould, insist thht
you shall take this 11atter in hsnd yourself, ex-
aznine al the fsces, nnd II owe Mr. Reecher l
will promptly pay him but you must get Mr..
Be>cher to consent to this in writing,
oe I viii not move an inch" THAT is
faiz," said Mr. Gould, "and while
don't eeex to act as an arbitrator between you,
will do 30 to stop the talk th4s il being made"
M Gould subsequently, got Mr. Beecher'a eon-
asnt in writing, and what do you think was tho
xaanlt Mr. 9ould brought in verdict in writ
ing that Mr.. Beocher owed 70 and should pay my
31ther S., 600. and he pald il" mr. Gould stated
that the exact smonpt due was something about
41 800, bat that be decided. Is Boecher at that
ttns w2a poor rnAn, to makeit the even 81, ,000-
Ny father keeps papers, md he has Mr. doulda
written award, and ali tha papers il tho easo-"
AToTHER DIFFICULTY
bstween Mr. Bowen and the Plymouth Church
pastor ia thus related to the Times reporter:
- Mr. Deecher took up collection one Sabbath
evening during the War for sanitary purposeer
md thsn sent orer to my fathers store aud bought
goods 1t less than cost prices, promising to
Ssnv ht13R c11Y Yrp4nY1tpfioD NV father ~ tho
way, bud nothing to do with the matter person-
ally 1t wss Mr.. Anthony Gilkason. Of brooklyn.
his partner, who had charge Of TINT branch Of
6s husineas Of Bowen Holmes d Co" at tho
time. NY uncle, Edward r. Bowen sold tho
good 1of sssh, aa already stated ano 20 reported
tn 4aae- When the goods Tefe delivered
1Hx AoExT COULD NOT BE OBTAINED
1ha messenger Vas told that the goods might bs
ehktKed TO mr. boechef; that ha tteecher>
would alloW the Anouns The following January
a settlement with tho Independent, with which
,ta's h1m ~ such had nothing TO DO although TWO
oof o. tho nx psrtners Gid nave m interest," IN
r. Well, attsr mach trouble, tho money con-
tibused By the.chuzch for the purpose ssstsd
VA feceirea' ana the goods delivered
In eoe~eF 70 toe anesnon' why CONT your
father come out With thew hole truth about tho
scandal :" Ar. Bowen saad am perfectly sat-
aaned' Without kno*lng Tue ACTUAL tacts' mat
1n5 fafhe4 should tell III ne knows' or what
Believe he knors' that good many persons and
.xa'nlltea' directly and indirectly might hones'
ny father has evidently borns gooa 1ea2on 1or
ksspanS nlenoe believe
TIE 1hu1H WILL CONE OUT
n ths snd' And that n'no~tenths Of the thinking.
tntslhsent people Of the nation aro Of one mind
% INA SUBJECT M. ho"en denies tnAt MS
1s'heR ma oeen 8leachefoos to beechef' a. A.
'1eKeo lie says tne teeaehery haa been on the
otaee saao' fof insurance. beecher s'ears that
ny 1A+nef nanoeo nira tho 'et'er from 1utoo' de-
handing Thai he ahonlo 1eaFe Arook1yn- Heech-
q, however, denounced Inson bitterly, md
saksd my father to b hin fraond. and that ii 80
~ sstd be Was I'll right Mr. Beecher thought