The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-05-05


clearness ana drmness. while not the smallest
emotion runed hts features. The excitement IN
the court room rose higher ana higher as the
arguments on defendants SHE went on TO staye
on the inevitable. The plaintiffs point was 20 re-
out rracy's evidence where he described the IN
teIvlew between Richards and himself. when the
former appeared before the Church Committee OF
Investigation. The jury paid extra atten-
ton 10 the debate and testimony Rich
ards has been all along nearer the
arcana OF the secret In TINS trlal
than any other man. he was almost witness 70
the act In Ha1rarate deEicto His evidence Is preg
nant, as IL was before He swore clearly and en-
phatcally that wnen Tracy met him at the time
the Plymouth church investigation was going on
ne declined TO answer the question whether or
not his sister mad committed adultery with Mr..
Beecher Tracy replied that his declining to say
anything would be as bad as admitting the charge
Finally he went before the committee and dc.
clined saying anything. Then he impeached the
golden-ha haired, blue-eyed jewel OF the defence
Bessie Turner, by swearing that she never In her
life spoke 10 MIN about the cruelties OF Tilton
TO his vile or to any OF his family, and That she
never came 10 him in his otice al the EUentaJ POSI-
as she swears she did, 10 tell HIM or anything OF
the kind happening; never at all came 10 MIN az
the EUeniflg Post once.
MOTHER AND DAUGHTER.
Accompanied by Mr.. Illton the two fair looking
ladies' VINO entered the court room the day pre-
vious, Mrs. Middlebrook and ner daughter ap-
peared again on the scene Ia the morning o. yes
terday. Miss Middlebrook, who was generally
taken for Miss Florence Tllton on the occasion 81
her debut. Is young girl OF extremely iar com
plexton ana jet black nar. Her mother 10 OF
deeper and Iuddler color ana mar OF deep naxen
shade. Bot tn sat close to hilton.
POOR MRS. BEEcHER,
with no other woman near her, sits All the weary
day listening to the dull, tolling witnesses and tie
Clio and ruesome lawyers Her pale lace IS framed
In jet black bonnet, the head drops repeatedly
on tbs hand, the eye droops and IL Is weary,
weary waltlng-walting Tor the May.
MR.. EvAgTs ON REBUTTAL.
The reoutta mas brought out Mr.. Evarts in re-
doubled force. 1t Is SO customary now 10 see him
pop up a dozen times ia brief debate that IL has
come to be a source OF amusement, and Mr.. Beach
Is congratulated by MS colleagues when he es-
capes having half dozen interruptions shot into
his ear in unhalting succession. feS more wit
nesses are stu ef and all the evidence may be
expected IN By Friday next
THE EVIDENCE.
Franklin Woodruff was recalled.
THE INTERVIEW AT soHULrz's HOUSE.
BY Mr.. Beach-Q. In that interview to which
your attention called yesterday, at Mr..
Scnultz's, when Tracy Tilton and Moulton were
present and when the starting OF new paper
was the subject OF conversation, did Mr.. Iliton
say, IN substance. 10 Mr.. Schultz, that he could
not accept any aid from Mr.. Beecner-that he
could not place himself under any obligations OF
that KIND A. lie said ia substance, that ne could
not accept any al from Mr.. BeecLer; tnat was IN
connection Win the subject Of starting the Got0e"
Age.
came 10 that interview IN company with Mr. TIL
ton, that you did remain longer than ten or NJ
teen minutes is that sol A. / went there with
Mr.. Hilton and We remained there from nan 10
three.quarters OF an hour wnen we lett together
q. Then Mr.. Schultz Il mistaken when ne says
that you dil not remain more tnan twelve or III
teen minutes A. Yes, SIR he Is mistaken; was
present during the whole " the conversation that
ensued on the occasion Of our visit
q. Mr.. tracy stated that IN the conversation on
Sunday. at MOultonis house, on the presentation
ol the letter OF apology-0r letter OF contrltion-
Moulton sad, in connection with rs presentation,
1T is a memoranda, or notes Of CONVERSATION. l
had with Mr.. Beecher,u was any such expression
In form or substance used A. IL was understood
that the letter OF apology was genuine letter.
Mr. Evar objected TO tue answer, but no argu-
Cross-examined BY Mr.. Shearman:-Q. How
long nave you oeen acquainted with General
Tracy A. Five or six years; have met him aud
known him pretty intimately during these years.
q, Assoclai ed with him IN pollticsf A. some
what; | have been little In politics, not very
much; my acquaintance with MIN otherwise mas
been very intimate; have seen and talked with
HIM sometimes every day; sometimes have not
him Tor three months.
U. Up to what time ala that intimacy existf A.
Ineyef knew that IL had ceased.
q, Dla you see hun frequently during the sum
1915; 1 recOleci one interview hsd with MIN IA
that year; IL was In tue summer July or August
z. You talked with nun on variety q sub
jects your relations we're not merely Of a busi-
ness characters A. did sir, our relations were
not 81 q business chi aacier
q. He was not the regular counsel OF your nrm
"A. No, SIR; he was sometimes our counsel.
z. desire 70 know the names o. some Of the
n
AR. Beach oolscting asked what Was the In
Judge Neilson-lt may be preliminary to some
thing else.
Mr. SLearman-lt Is.
lie Mltness-There are good many.
q. some four or i've Of them A. George =.
Nichols NJ. Mclean and samuel McLean-n fact,
most every body round IT, Heights.
z Did you talk with Mr.. Nichols about some
thIngsf A. | aid about some things, ana aDeut
some matters with Mr.. soutnwcK.
q. Then may assume these were your con-
ndentai lrends outside the hrm A. There may
have been others thai talked VITA.
q. Did you ever talk win those gentlemen
about tie scandal A. have, unquestlonaDy.
q. DID you talk with any or these gentlemen
ABOUT counsel before you consulted with General
Tracy IN regard 70 this very matter A. Very
likely may have; ! think spoke with Mr.. Nc
Lean ABOUT counsel IN connection with tins
u Tnat was before you consulted with General
Tracy a. 1t was; ! have no recollection tnas
TAXED with any or these gentlemen on ne SUBJECT
OF the conversation between myself ana Tracy; l
may have done So out ! don't recollect that 1
q. 10 waich u these gentlemen have you talked
about that natter A. have talked with them
ali within two or three days.
GENERAL TRACYis PUBLISHED STATEMENT.
q. DO you remember reading a statement or an
interview reported In toe Brooklyn CnlOn or June
70, 1874, between . reporter Of that pager ana
General Tracy a. l may nave read IT, don't
nov recOiect talking with any OF the gentlemen
you nave named about II. ttie d the paper Ia
question SHOWN u Witnesa)
wiIness-l nave no doubt that saw that at the
time II was printed.
Mr. SHearman thea read from the paper a state
meut or General Tracy mat Mr.. BeeSner was not
charged Win adultery BY Mr. uton, ana asked
tue witness II All. Mclean had not called MS al
tentOn ~ the paragraph
Mr.. Fullerton objected 70 the reading OF The In
tervew al length.
Dir. Eyarts asked what was the objection
Mr.. u acn said tue once tlOn was mat tnere was
pr00 vi tas allege0 more now before the
court. IL was "a surreptu1us attempt 70 get ~
ieged statements Of General Tracy before the jury.
Judge Nelson suggested that the remaining
paragraph be put 10 the form Of a question.
u. Dld you At any Tune naye any talk with Mt.
Mclean in relation TO this interview A. may
has - nj mf Mr. ~ La I4af IN