The New York herald., 1875-01-06
NEW ORLEANS.
CONTINUED FROM THIRD PAGE.

goapect to the proximity Of that power
which may alone OF all other powers
be used 70 trample ont dsorderly dispositions on
che side on the other. This resolution was
especially in which the Senate should leave It
70 she reason, the prudence, the discretion OF the
President as to furnishing the Information. It
should be left to the Presdentto say whether this
publication would be compatible with the public
interest. The Senator from Ohio (Mr. Thurman)
aeAired the Senate to direct the President touch
nG the army, OF which he was Commander-in-
Chief. In conclusion, Mr.. Conkling moved TO
amend the resolution by inserting, after the word
~reQuested,n 'ff IN his judgment not incompatible
with the public interest"
Mr.. SHERMAN (rep.) of Ohio, inquired II the
amendment would preclude an objection.
The vIcE-PKEsIDENr inquired If there was any
objection to the consideration OF the resolution at
the present time.
Several Senators-'NOh, no. don't object"
No objection being made, the Vice President an
1Ounced that the resolution was before the Sem
ate, the pending question being an amendment OF
Mr.. Conkling.
THE UsAGH OF THE SENATE.
Hr. THURMAN said he was familiar with the
usage OF the Senate long before the Senator from
New York (Mr. C0nkling) was. In respect to
Seretgn aairs IL had always been the usage to use
the words moved by the Senator from New York,
butan time OF profound peace simple resolution
of inquiry as it was domestic affairs, was not left
t. the discretion OF the President, for him to an
sver according to his viii or pleasure. This reso-
lution related to what had already taken pla0o.
IL was question OF fact, and there was no pos
sible way by which the President could prejudice
the public interests by ans wering it, II the inter
Ierence in Louisiana matters did take place, the
Senate could ask the President to tell 1t by what
authority OF law 1t did take place. The Senate
had the right to request the information, and II
there be any reason why the President should not
furnish 1t, 1t was for him to communicate that fact
80 the Senate; OF, II ne deemed II proper, he
could send it to the Senate under the seal Of
secrecy, to be considered in executive session.
PRECEDENTs OF STATE TROUBLES.
Hr. EDNUNDs, trep) of VT, inquired If the Sena-
TOR (Mr. Thurman) could name precedent where
the words submitted by the Senator from New
York (Mr. Conkling) had been omitted from a reso
lution.
Mr.. THURMAN replied he could name hundred
M he had time to search tue records. He did not
think 1t was for him, hat in hand, to bow before
the President and say 1t was for him to exercise
his Judgment Louisiana was not the only State
in which trouble had occurred In reference to the
organization OF q Legislature. In OHIO on one oc-
casion there were for two weeks or more two
bodies, both claiming to be the Legislature OF the
State; but, thank God, they had no fraudulent Re-
turning Board. They had not descended to that
depth OF perdition. II Martin Van Buren,, who was
then President, had sent the military interfere
in that legislative conflict his troops would never
have left Columbus alive In Pennsylvania also
there had been q similar instance, and
how would the people OF that State
have acted had the federal government inter-
fereuf What would not be tolerated in Massa-
chusepts. OHIO and Pennsylvania for single mo-
ment was now the case in Louisiana. He desired
70 know whether because OF the first fatal step in
1oisting an illegal Governor upon the people Of
Louisiana, all liberty and all law in that State was
90 perish. He wanted to know who 1t was that
called into use the army OF the United States to
organize the Legislature OF louisiana He did not
want this matter decided by camor or tumult.
There would be tumultuous spirit in New York,
OHIO or Michigan II either Of those States were
m6ering from the same cause.
Mr.. CoNKLNG read from various precedents to
show that the custom had been TO request the
President, If not incompatible with the public in
terest, TO inform the Senate, &c.
Mr.. MORTON, (rep) OF Ind, favored the amend
ment OF Mr.. Conkling. He said the senator from
Ohio (Mr. Thurman) urged the resolution as If It
we're in the nature or q mandate, when the very
language OF the resolution was, 'The President OF
the United States is hereby requested" &C. II the
let It have the whole story and this could be done
BY amending the resolution so as to have the
President send to the Senate any Information he
has In regard TO the evidence OF an armed organ
izaton In louisiana hostile to the government; to
state what the President had done for the preserva.
tlon OF the public peace. 1t had been done in view
Of the fact that murder had been rampant In Lout
siana; IN view Of the fact that these very men
who surrounded the Legislature were covered
with blood and ready to commit fresh murders.
Mr.. HOWE rep)oi Wis, supported the amend
ment OF the Senator from New York (ur. Conk-
Nng). he saw no objection to having the Presl-
dent furnish the information, and had no DOUBT
that it would be furnished. 1t would promote the
public interest instead OF preJudicing 1t.
DANGERS OF CAEsARIsM.
hr. SALISBURY. (dem.) OF Del, said there
lad been federal interference in Louisiana. lie
hoped the time had not come when a Caesar might
ciothe himself IN purple and bid defiance TO the
American people. In the elections last fall these
very usurpatons in the Southern states had much
20 do in casting the ballot as it was against the
party In power.
REPUBLICAN, THREATS.
Nj. LOGAN, Vep) oil ILL, said when colored men
were murdered In LOUISIANA, no voice was raised
on the democratic side or this Cham moer 10 chal-
Benge the wrong perpetrated. He charged that
these murders were committed by the democrats
Had the Senator from Delaware (Mr. salisbury
became the Brutus OF this day to tear the purple
robes from Cesar that the country might applaud?
He (Mr. Logan was as much IN favor o! having
this Information before the Senate az any one
here, but he desired to warn his iriends on the
otner side OF the Chamocr that they must make
their friends stop their murders. If they did not
they would be made to stop. and the armies OF
the United States would be used TO stop them.
Those who stood by those murderers were no
better than those who committed the crime.
(Here there was a slight demonstration toward
applause In the gallery, but IL promptly
checked by the Vice Presdent.D
Mr.. THURMAN said he had been asked to point
cut preccdents where the words suggested by the
senator from New York MIR. Conking) were
omitted from the resolutions OF inquiry, ana ne
quoted several, among them one submitted by