New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-05
O. Don't yea remember you stated you took MT moni-
ton into tho ofioci A. Well rooollect introduced Mr.

Mr.. M0rrls-what page do you refer TOT
Mr.. Bcach-He Amt referring to any page.
Mr.. Morris-That Is what think.
Mr.. shearmsn-Psge 344 ITO the wtnessl-Did you
not In your direct examination for tho plaintiff previous
to this examination. part OF the plantiTs opening
oase nae tbis language al called at Mr. Tracys office
with Mr.. Mouitou; think 1t was about half past D
O'Clock In the morning a. A. may have said So
O. "For tho purpose Of Mr.. MoutOn relating to MT.
Tracy tho history Of this scandal CASE Did you so tes
tifyi A. may have said 80.
O. Why do you say now that you called 10 minutes In
ADVANCE A. I said think so.
THE INQUIRY DECLARED UNPROFITABLE.
Mr.. Fullerton-I think this is an Improbable
inquiry.
Mr. shearman-I don't know about that.
Mr. Fullerton-I don't suppose you do That Ia your
misfortune and not mine OF least it will not be II tho
Court rules 1t out.
Judge Ncilson-I think the counsel Is nearly through
with It,
Mr. FuIlerton-I think he through some time ago,
but he didn't 1t. How far will Honor permit
them to 20 into the examination OF matters to which the
attention Of the witness was not called by usf suppose
they have right crossexamne only in regard to the
matters TO which We directed the attention of the wit
ness.
Judge Neilson-That Ia the general rule.
Mr. FullertOn-That Is the general rule. and 1t Is the
particular rule unless your Honor permits them 10 de-
part from It, II this whole case Is to be retired In this
way 1t will consume great deal OF time II rests en-
trely with your Honor don't wish to c:rulnscriDe
the other side to limit them In their inquiries at all
they going to develop any facts that may throw light
upon this case; but to spend time here in reexamnng
witness in regard to matter that he has already been
examined about his crossexamnation when called by
u.s. would seem to be an unnecessary waste OF time.
Now, inquiries directed to avery few topics. and
with regard to these topics they have right to cross
examine. think they cannot give, unless your Honor
open the door for examination Of length
and In regard to any subject to which they may see
fit to call the attention Of the witness
Mr.. Evarts-I think my learned friend IL right In hs
general proposition, but don't think he is accurate in
memory in regard the previous examination Of this
witness All that said about these previous inter-
views the first examination of Mr. FRANKLIN Woodruff
Introduction to get at the interview az the house,
and they did not go In, did didn't think there
any right their part to give interview between
Mr. Franklin Woodruff and Gen. Tracy.
Mr.. Beach-DO you mean on the first examination
Mr.. Evarts-On the first examination.
Mr.. Beach-Undoubtedy we did go into IT,
Mr.. Evarts-Let me go on and you will find that am
right But after this, thon the question to get
Mr. Beecher In some way affected by what occurred
In that principal interview and then conversation be-
tween Mr. Moulton and Mr.. Beecher introduced in
which Mr. Moulton said "This consultation we are
having is at the instance of and and it
may be necessary to tell the truth about
your affairs and to ask you about them," and
he assened. Now, thereupon, the introduction
of what occurred between Mr. Moultop, Mr.. Tiltcn,
Gen. Tracy and Mr.. Woodruff being present Il don't
know that he took much part in III the Sunday night
upon the proposition that Mr. Tracy
then TO represent Mr.. Beecher and thus authorize the
conversation but there had not been any pretense that
there had been any such authorization Of Gen Tracy TO
represent Mr. Beecher at these preliminary talks with
him. concerning which evidences Of introductory import
was given But Mr. Tracy examined and crossex
ained these preliminary interviews and therefore
they called this witness with the view OF contradctng
Mr. Tracy that all inquiries concerning those pre-
limnsry interviews. as understand It, introduced
by their rebuttng evidence Of this witness their
right to contradict Gen. Tracy.
Mr. Beach, refer you to page 3i in relation to your
statement that ths first interview between this witness
and Gen. Tracy not given when Mr. Moulton
there.
Mr.. Evarts-It stated a. fact.
Mr.. Beach-The whole relation OF the interview
given in terms by Mr.. Woodruff and repeated; mean
the interview between Mr. Moulton and yourself and
Mr. Woodruff ut your Office.
Mr.. Shearman-But the ten minutes Interview before
Mr. Moulton came was never brought out until this new
examination.
Mr.. Bcach--And that IL brought out your
examination. 1t was not anything we examined about
We didn't refer to that interview.
Mr.. Shcarman-It goes to this interview.
Mr.. FullortOn-They called it ont we did not. II
man OF straw, set up by Mr. Sherman 10 fight and 1t
seems the man Of straw has got the best Of it,
Mr.. Shearman-DO you refer to YOURSELF
Mr.. FullertOn-No, was referring to another matter
think ii is very great waste OF time.
Mr. shearman-Make these bricks without straw il You
Mr.. FullcrtODYOu have got neither brick straw
the result OF your examination because take it makes
difference at oil whether Mr. Moulton went in tho
Office with Mr.. Woodruff, whether he succeeded him
by ton minutes Now, inquiry that should not be
permitted. think technically speaking the witness is
right In saying that he went there with Mr. Mouton
that he took Mr. Moulton there if Mr. Mouton went in
pursuance Of an arrangement made with him. although
ten minutes interviewed between their respective arrivals
He met him there by appointment
Judge NeisOn-And the witness introduced him.
Mr.. Fullerton-And the witness introduced him,
yes, Sir. That ia all there was of the interview
Judge Neson-Are you through, Mr.. Sherman
Mr.. Shearman-NO Sir. ITO the witnessl Did you
have any more than interview with Cen Tracy In
which the subject Of this scandal in any way dis
Gu ssed, prior to the time when Mr. Mouton came into
the Office A. think likely met him the street. and
perhaps casually talked with him about IL a little, as
had with others had met. 1 under the impression
had.
@ When do you think you met him in the street, \.
think met him perhaps day two after this thing
was out
@. A day or two after the publication A. 7 think
may have met him.
@. In this interview between Mr.. Moulton and Gen.
Tracy nothing said about the money tberei A
No, Sir
O. Nothing said about Bessie Turneri A. No, Sir
you mean the morning interview
@. mean the morning interview A. No, Sir.
Q, Was anything said in any subsequent interview at
which you were present between Mr.. Moulton and Mr.
Tracy about money! A. / think not.
Q. Nor about Bessie Turneri A. think not
O. Did you your determination testify in this man
ndod fof