New-York tribune., 1875-02-13
TIE CATHOLIC CONTROVERSY
ARCHBISHOP MANNING's REPLY TO Mr..
GLADSTONE.

PROPOSITIONS TO BE PROvED-DEPosING POWER OF
THE PoPE-REMONsTRANCE WITH MR. GLAD
STONE
The reply of Archbishop Manning to Mr..
Gladsones Expostulations issued by Messrs Long
mans Co. 1t elaborate and connected argument
to prove these propositions:
1. That the Vatican DEGREES have IN no jot or title
changed either the ObhgatOns or the conditions OF
civil allegiance. O. That the relations OF the Catholic
Church the evil powers of tho world have
been immutaby fixed from the beginnjng, mas
much they arse out OF the Divine co'Situ-
of the natural order. g. That collisions now exist
ing been brought by changes, not on the part
Gil but part OF the clvl powers, and that by
of systemltlc conspiracy against the Holy see
A. That by these changes ana COLLISIONS te cFH powers
~ Europe destroying their Own stability. o. That
the motive OF the Vatican Council IN defining tAc IhI
HOillty OF the Roman POntlH was nOt any tenportl
policy, it for any temporal end; but that IL
defined that truth in the face OF all temporal dangers
order guard the DIVINE deposit OF CursAahy, ANA
to vIndlcate the Divine certainty OF falth.
DR. Manning makes in TINS pamphlet the following
statement OF tho doctrines Of the Church IN regard o
the deposlng power OF the Pope its origin and charac
ter and the limits Of its application:
The Christian law OF faith and morals passed into the
public law OF Cnristend0m. Then arose the Christian
jurisprudence, IN which the Roman POntr recog-
with two-fod coercl0n-spirtual by his authority
and temporal by the secular arm. These two acted
In the jurisprudence or ChrstendOm that he who pro-
nounced the sentence OF communication pronounced
our test acts II member OF the Church OF England
became Catholic even NOncoDtOrmlst, ho was ipSO
TicO incapable OF sitting in Parliament or holding office
or state. And by the first of william III. the heir
Crown, II he became Catholic, Catholic, tpsO
IcO ioifeits tho succession. Nothing Is more ccr.an
upon the face Of history and no one mas proved more
aOundinty than Dr. DoAlnger, that IN every case OF
CepOslrtou or Philip e Bel, Henry ~. OF ny,
frederic H. and the hse, the sentence of the Electors.
Princes States ana people, and the public OpnlOn and
voice OF nations, had Already pronounced scntcuco or
rejection upon those tyrants before tho POntns pro-
bounced the sentence or accommodation and depOsi-
ion I was only by the faith and free will OF nations
they became socially subject 10 this jurprudence
1t by their free Will that II maintained IN yisor
and conformity with Jhor free Will tnat 10
exercised by the POnt. Their free sentence preceded
PJntiical sentence IL their prayer. ana In
their behalf that IL pronounced. Tue moral con
dition of ance, and the material
ditions Of execution alike present rendering these
supreme POnuhcal acts legitimate, rignt, lawful wise
aud salutary And here snail be met with the answer,
"YOu iust, then. the deposition OF princes ana there
fore you hold that the Pope may uepOse leon Victoria"
Such sorry 10 say, Is the argument OF the Expos
tulatlOn;" for II II De not, why WAS II impuedi alto
geher deny the argument, inference. call It what
will. ai1rm that the deposition OF oury Nv. ana
Frederic H. of Germany legitimate rIglt and law
ful; athrm that deposition OF ueen Victoria
would be legitimate nor right, lawful because
the moral conditions which present TO Justify the
deposition OF the Emper0rs OF GeImany absent
the OF Queen Victoria; therefore such act
could not Dc done.
In the course OF personal rcmonstrance with Mr..
Gladstone, DIR. Manning says:
But when he casts of tho character OF a statesman,
for which e mas shown so great capacity, 10 play tho
canonls aud theOOan, for which has here SHOWN 80
ltte ana that with the intent OF discord and
animostles among 6O000O0 OF his felow-countrymen-
aud, must moreover add, with ndul gence OF un-
chastened language rarely To be equaledI feel bound
10 say tha no has been betrayed no act for which
can mud no adequate excuse, must tell him that II he
ministries OF his cOmpIssiDu must INST pLrits hs
style both VI wriIing aud OF th'nI'ns