The Jasper weekly courier. [volume] (Jasper, Ind.) 1858-1922, 1875-04-16

Q.--Plior TO the time this letter was written. IN
1867 had you become aware OF changes In his re-
lgious faith, or doubt In his mind concerning the
substance Of his forms q faith Al had
thatf Al found that his wife was distressed
on the matter; was called as the pastor 10 con
fer about " never eNpostulated with him, and
so brought II OUT | accounted 10 simply the
drift which faithful mini takes often when
passing through transitions from traditional be-
lleis TO personql and liz own feelings. and be-
heved that time and experience would rectIfy il.
1t was IN that period that this letter was
written Ain that period. but the special
caslon OF II don't rcmember-I state Il subject
tocorrecti0n. After assuming the responsibility of
the independent there appeared one OF two articles
which excited very grca; alarm, 10 my personal
knowledge, aud excited dstrust Of him which
thought was also injuring the Independent, and
the Indcpendem was always dear 10 me, and IL
was brought home 10 me because In the North
west, where my brother, the Rev. Edward, lived,
! WAS held responsible for his alterations
aQ.-fOr 1iltOn'ss Ayes. IL led me 10 have
some conversations with him, l do not recollect
them individually; ! only recall them as con-
nected partly with his household and partly
connected with his success In the conduct Of the
Independent, and my general idea was not In the
slightest degree 10 circumscribe his liberty Of in
yestigation, but 10 put him on his guard against
accepting and acting upon unripe conclusions.
Q.-And IL was In that stage Of knowledge ON
your part Of his opinions that this letter was writ
tenn Ayes, s.r.
The acquaintance between witness and Moul-
ton commenced during the period that Beecher's
portrait was being painted by Page, they having
met frequently at the artistic studio. lie dscov.
cred Moulton 10 be ian acute man, of good
critical turn OF mind; ford Of art, a good con-
noisseur rather than an artist, and passionately
fond, apparently. oi literature apt 70 quote q
good deal; worshiper OF James Russell Lowell
and shakespeare sonnets."
MRS. TILToS.
The witness then detailed the circumstances Of
his acquaintance with Mrs. Titon, both before
and after her marriage and Of his visits 10 Til
tons house at his urgent invitation. In August,
1870, while at Peekskill, he received little note
from Mrs. Tiiton-a request 10 call and see her;
=" went TO see her; she was sick, went TO
town mainly 10 see her; found her lying In the
reception room Of the house, pale and despond-
ent; she made n statement that she was very
much depressed in spirits, she seemed To be like
one who wanted TO talk and could not; she con
ferred with me, and prayed with her and cheer
ed her tho best way could" The next day he
called again but she did not see him. sending
down u note, % In the future all would he right"
During that summer, and prior 20 December,
1870, he did not have any further meetings with
Mrs. Tilton. About the middle of that month he
again saw her, in consequence OF a request from
her mother the messenger was Bessie Turner;
Mrs. Tilton was then with her mother, and what
Bessie Turner said was the first intmation Beech
er had OF the separation of Mrs. Tilton from her
lady and Mrs. Tilton together.
Q.->ow, what was the interview between Mrs.
luton and yourself on tflat OCCASION
A.-The conversation was very little with Mrs.
Tilton IL was almost entirely on the part of Mrs.
Morse, in Mrs. Titon's presence; II consisted in
general representations to me Of the great unhap-
Or Mrs. Tillons family A.-Of Mr.. Til
tons family; OF his treatment Of his wife, which
she had borne, az her mother thought with an
yelic patience, until IL was no longer tolerable,
and that NJ last she had been driven TO the resou
tlon of leaving him, and they wished counsel Of
me as respects the propriety. OF such an act as
Ia o1,f tau FL In
terview was not long; said "This is a case in
which feel that man can't give the best coun-
sci; is a case, II seems 10 me, where woman
il needed and, II you viii allow me, ! shall be
glad To bringmy wife.and let her hear, for think
much Of her Judgment about such Things"
They both seemed quite excited, pleasura6ly.
Mrs. Morse said ''Nill she come? will bless
her, II she will come. as long rs live" said
''Surely she will come II wish her" and that
constitutes all about that. the first interview.
Q.-Now, when did you next see Mrs. Tilton IN
connection with this subject, and with whom. and
what occurred then: A.-Ithink twas ne xt day,
sir; with my wife visited them.
Q.-What occurred them Al am not clear
nj % the whole. Mrs r. went up stairs with my
wife, and they had an interview by them selves,
Mrs. Morse staying with me and repeating
Dwell, no matter A.-Cbarges, and so on;
then after should thinx about half hour Mrs.
Tilton came down and Mrs. Morse
Odd Mrs. Beecher come with herr A.-No,
sir, and Mrs. Morse went up 10 see her by her
self leaving her.
o.-went uIto see Mrs. peeeher, A Yes.
sir, and NV self, have recollection OF only one
single thing l said 20 Mrs. Tilton.
Q.-When alonef When alone. ''How
Is IL, said, THAT have been so long with
you, and you never alluded before 10 me about
the distress in your hou sehold" And she said
that she--her general answer, cannot give her
words-sought To conceal, IN hopes that the diff
Guilty would pass away; and then talked TO her
in respect to the household relations recolect
giving her some counsel as 20 bearing and con-
tinuing patent-let patience have her perfect
work-and joined with her in prayer and most
of the time that was with her | was praying
with her.
Dwell, did your wife and Mrs. Morse re-
turn 10 the room where Mrs Tilton wasf Al
don't remember about Mrs. Morse my wife came
down stairs and after few general remarks
said in behalf ~ myself and wife that we should
think this over, and in a very short time give
them some final words that probably we should
see them again the next day, amer "A consultation
with my wife she was Ia go down again, ana she
went down while was in company.
Q.-That il when you had company Mt your
house. Ayes, sir, was talking with several.
she had her things on. she came and asked me,
and told me she was going down; ] could not al
Jude to the subject without betraying IL. and
went 10 my table and wrote little scrap, saying
- incline TO think that your view is right, and
that n separation and settlement of support will
bc the wisest.r
Evarts 10 witness)-By your view you mean
Mrs. Beecher's view. Al do-did
Adjourned.
Second Day OF Beecher's Testimony.