The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-06
NEW YORK HERALD TUESDAY 1873 -QUADRUPLE SHEET

d. Now. SIR, on g. following day there any
meeting between YOU ana Mr. Moulton-the 3d Of
Januar, or theieaoouts A. Yes. there was, then
or taereaoouts; within lew days; think the 80.
q. Where al tina. occur A. In Moultons
Z. Were YOU there Oy appointment or by chance'
A. / can't say.
q. wat was the condition OF his heathY A.
He was 10 bed, ana think IL was account Of
sickness; IN TACT know he WAS indsposed.
.. He was not too Ill to prevent HIM from seeing
you A. No, SIR, nave never seen him IN that
O. While you were there did MI. Triton come in :
A. He dld.
think not, SIR
Q. How did the conversation commenceS A.
think Mr. Mouton began By referring 10 the pre-
vlous tax had with hun; ne was repeating II 10
o. What had you been saving 10 Mr.. Moulton be-
fore Mr.. Triton came inY a. had been referring
TO what Mr.. 1tlton must have suffered; tnouent
his self restraint was remarkable under the cir
.. Alter Mr. Tton arrived how did Moulton
contnuef A. He told Mr.. Tilton mad been saying
q. MAT AID he do nextP A. l turned TO Mr..
1ilton and told HIM how regretted having been
ana Mr. Bowen: also SAID that had the most
profound sorrow or me rupture had made 10 MS
family; that | asked his pardon: 1elt nau Deen
IN tne wrong, and asked MS forgiveness Tor IL.
EFFECT ON MoULToN.
The meeting OF luton Moulton and Beecher at
Moulvon's house was narrated IN Detail. Mouton,
wno sat on some distance, kept his eyes steadily
fixed on the speaker. The bitter, mocking in
credulty oil his looks had soItened down to an ex-
preston rather OF plying wonder than OF angry
scepucism.
o. what followed A. I said "Anything in my
power | will 40 10 show my sorrow,n and Mr..
Moulton SAID "Inat is an apology any gentleman
should accept.n
o. Did your apology have the desired effect2
A. Mr.. 1liton appeared TO take 1t rather reluct-
antly, as Mr. Moulton SAID, with marked emphasis,
Won n1trHF fn fhnF annl II
expect man TO DO moIeSn alter some further
talA ar. Ilton AID accept the apology
q. How ala he accept 1T A. We shook hands.
q. WAT occurred Afterwards A. think Mr..
Tillon Withdrew.
Y. Was any reference made at that conversation
TO the charges IN regard 10 Mrs. l1ltonf A do
not tniuK so.
Q. Dld you talS about them after Mr. Tlton left 2
A. 90 not remember any such conversation.
Q. DO you remember an observation Mr.. houlton
made 10 Mr.. Tllton, such as, "Ae mas, in my
opinion. done everything that man can do WITH
out making pubic statement OF the facts" A.
No nothing OF the KIND was said.
o. was any suggestion made that public
statement SHOULD be made A. On the contrary,
the driiL of Lne interview led TO the opinion
that the lacts should DE concealed.
q Was there any language made use OF by Mr..
Triton such as, 40 speak 20 man who has ruined
my vile. broken up my house." &c. A. Not WORD
Oh II.
O. Did Mr. Moulton make any statement such
as, Theodore, you must remember that Mr.
Beecher has seat you letter through me num-
bling himself before you as he would before mis-
GoonY a. No, SIR; no. sir.
O. Did you curing that conversation say any
tnlng as Iolows:-"H you wish that should re-
ire from M pulpit you nave only TO say the word
and viii DO tn A. Inc Imputauon OF any sucn
LAM uage 10 me Is Wholesale ncton.
O. DID you state that the sale OF pews should not
go on A. No, sir.
q Do YOU remember saving, al have this request
Of TINS trouble. Jou VIII give me warning, 80
that 1 NAV commit suicide ana 90 out OF the
O was anything said about Mr.. Ttlton desiring
publicity A. Not a. that interview.
ma tn fh0 fail .vNrv
Il urt hermore, ask Jou TO do ne l1ls favor, that
whoever else is 10 be informed OF TINS my
enemy ana may become mine''9 A. No; nothing
OF the kind was salo.
WHOLESALE FICTION.
1.-The imputatlon OF that language to me is Q
wholesale dctlon.n The witness was at loss for
q word to characterize the falsity OF the language
attributed 10 him uy Moulton. BE was proceeding
70 stgmatize 1t more July when the counsel
called q halt. Further on the language IIllon
gave was quoted to the purpose OF making
Beecher say his relations with Elizabeth we're not
always sexual. no, SIR; 10, sir. o. this is hor-
riDle Before God, no such words passed between
me and any man lving.n Moulton leaned over TO
talk with Morris and Tllton sought the ear or
Fullerton to lmpart some eager communication.
The magnitude OF the work before the witness
begins reveal ITSELF Eyarts wastes no time. HIS
questions have more or less OF pertinency. There
Is no travelling outside the record, but as the
defence has evidently entered the enterprise
or covering the whole neld traversed by the
plaintiff the OF the task begins to be seen.
o. DID You add II Will consider Il Is an add.
tion2l occasion oi gratltude"g a. NO, SIR.
T. DO you remember saying "Sne was not 70
blame, Was entirely at iauit my sacred once
put me IA wrong pace; l SHOULD nave ueen ner
Ruar0 an no. her tempter"r "A. something oil the
KIM was sad, cut SIMPLY wnen reierred 10 the
wrong mat mao done 10 gaming ner affections,
a. statements ndo LED me TO Oeileve mad dDne.
z. Ola you ever make any statement acknoWl-
edglns sexual lntlmacyY A. No, sir; Il Is odiousiy
i. Did you ever 10 conversation with Mr. Tilton
express Jour regret iOr hayIug nad sexual inter-
cOurse3 A. IL is oieraDle almost 10 be asked
sucn question:. and before Almighty God no such
statemr was ever made 0y me.
q. Uld you ever make the following statement
II nrver sought Tor any vulgar end; my
intercourse nad been tnrongn love anu not
through iusr'f 4. No, SIR; nothing OF lne kind;
no sucn language VAS ever USED.
q. On what OCCASION did you say TO Mr. Tilton.
"Tell me, before yod 20 away, can you possibly
relnstste ElZaDeth IN Jour loyeSp A. / remember
no sucn lanRuage possibly may nave said ~.
q DO you remember the scene when, In the
.Bur,iug your lace IN your nands.n and saying
you felt IKE q man 'on tue edge Of henn9 A. 90
not.
.. Now SIR, during this conversation did you
say, when YOU spoke Of your grief Tor his troubles
with Mr.. Bowen, that your wiie mao stirred it AL
upg A 1 90 remember making my regrets for his
trouble with MT. Bowen. out aid not say tnat
regarded my WEES interference as more miscniev.
GUS buhh uiilcs
As the morning wore on the witness became
more buoyant Infused greater yigor into bis voice
and grew almost defiant. Beach and Fullerton
we're attentive. the former sitting back In his
chair, us lorehnger curled in ring around mis-
chin, his eye scarce blinking. but fixed immovably
on the witness
witness-Tne conversation turned on Mr..
Bowen's ,reachery toward MI. 1lltOn and tow
ara me; tnat was some time boore January 10; /
think II was on or about mat tune; tue only way
can Tx the date Is Dy my memoranda OF my
lectures; can nx the LANDMARKS oil In that way
4 have got tae dates down vi where lectured
q. dow did Mr.. Mouiton introduce tnis inter-
view Or toplcY A. Mr.. MoultCn aud we're taking
as 10 now ne wrong done Mr.. Hilton should be
repaired 1 can't tell now Mr.. MouItOn introduced
IT; 1 teil the topics OF The conversation, per-
maps nOs IN tueir order; can give the substance
oi the conversation.
q. Was tue subject OF your previous relation
with Mr.. Bowen brought inr0 the interview A.
Ii was very Thoroughly brought into the inter-
vies; he wanted me 10 give him an account OF all
nv uilnculfIes aud relations with Mr.. Bowen; ne
lad m px