New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-16
YORK DAILY TRIBUNE TUESDAY MARCH le

In any contngencyi don't know that did at thai
| interview. v ...f,a..I .. ,..,Il % ...-- 9
O. Was there anything sad upon the subject that Mr. Mool
ton and Mr. Ton held these papers which they could pubs
or which they could destroy just they choose' A. That wa
subject ..tt,....,... ...I la feait r1
Mr. Beach-[To Mr. Tfacyl 10 quite -onensiyely leading
| Sir. 4r..sn s7.I
The wtness-Thst subject frequently mentioned. and
always conceded fact that that the situation In all our
conversations between Mr. Tton Mr. Mouon myself and MI
Carpenter that the few papers 1.-The few documents
| M Beach-Well. now, we object to this. -l..t -
Judge Nelson-Go on. Mr.. Tracy. q '.. .io.f
O. What sad about the OF Mr. Beecher being re-
duccd to a few papers, II anythinsf ' 'i. 20
Mr. Beach-By whomi ..1or' .0
Mr. TracyBy Mr. Carpenter, which you Ohe witness) re-
| peated TO Mr.. Tton. ir..f
Mr. Beaeh-He says he didn't repeat 1t 10 Mr. Tion
Mr. TracyI understood him 10 say 3d. A. repeated that
to Mr. TtonI repeated everything that was said to Mr. TIL
onevehng stated by Mr. Carpenter in response to every
question put to him. and can remember at ths
time. remember distinctly asking Mr. Carpenter r
Mr. archaeological TO.
Judge NesonThe question Is what you said to Mr. Triton
A. related Mr. Tton the whole OF the conversation as
near could whatever stated stated by me to Mr.
Carpenter by Mr. Carpenter repeated far as could
| do it, faithfully to Mr.. Tion ...
Judge Neilson-To the witness What did you say TO Mr.
Tilton on that subject il anytngs A. stated 10 Mr. Carpcn
Mr. Beach-Tho subject OF II.
O. What did you state to Mr. Ton that you had said TO Mr.
| OArpenterf
Judge Nelson On that subject
A. whether could say stated it to him in that
| form, because 1t being conceded
Mr. Beach, move to strike that out-about 1t being
| coded
Judge Nelson-Yes, strike that ont
Mr. Beach, move to strike that about It being conceded
Judge Neilson-Yes, Sir. that Is struck out.
O. State as near as you can the substance Of what you said
to Mr. Tfton-had passed between you and Mr. Tilton-
Judge Neilson-Mr. Carpenter
Mr. TracyAnd Mr. Carpenter mean on the subject OF the
papers which they held against Mr. Beecher' A. have
indsnct recollection what said 10 Mr. Carpenter the sub
ject my recollection u.s. Of course that repeated the same
thing Mr. Ton, but when you ask me TO specify whether
did at this interview repeat that, cannot say
O. viii 90 another interview. Did you subsequently
have another interview with Mr. Tton this subject! A.
Yea Sir, several.
@ Where was one, A. One say. not several At The
Union League Club where Mr. Mouton present. aud We
substantially
Mr.. Beach-Wait one moment
O. Well what occurred between you and Mr. Tion and Mr.
Mouon on that occasion, A. Mr. Tilton and Mr.. MoutOn
were sitting in the about hapast ten to eleven o'clock
the evening passing the door, and was attracted by
their presence and think invited in, at all events
did 90 and down by the table with hem and Mr. Moul
ton says: Mr. Schultz it is too hard that you should have
made this statement against Mr. Tlton and think reec
ton you ought apologize for IL you ought to take 1t back
We then rebashed this whole thing restaed near as we
could part in the way Of statement and part in the way Of
argument, all that occurred between this man and
@. Mr.. Carpenter A. Mr.. Carpenter and myself.
Mr. Beach, object TO general statement.
Mr. Tracy-We coming to that
Mr. Beach, submit! this is not competent evidence State
| what said.
Mr. Tracy-I am going TO have him do go That will be my
next question ITO the witncss Now, what stated be
tween yourself and Mr. Ton then in the presence OF Mr.
Moulton! What talked and what saidi A. AS
said before we re -staed--
O. Repeat here what said there You remember that
this was all for the purpose Of justifying-
Mr. Beach-Wait one moment.
| Judge Neilson-We understand that.
Mr. Tracy-We understand that
The Nitness-Do yoi want me 70 repeat
Mr. Tracy-Ycs, repeat what said between Mr. Mou
ton and yourself in Mr.. Titons presence.
Judge Nellson-On that occasion.
The WitnessI stated that the logic OF the statement brought
me to that conclusion said that Mr. Carpenter had invited
me to interview in the Club the subject Of this paper
teprise said had discussed the thing thoroughly
fully they knew because had talked that thing over
Mr. Beach-Neyer mind that
The Witness want me to repeat the exact statement
again!