New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-02-10

ydual cians Of the Indians audited and certified
the support Of the Choctaw schools and eovernment
aud no claims OF attorneys cOntracors or claim AGENTS
Mr. GUNCKEL CRep.. Ohio, inquired of Mr.. Parker
whether MS substtnte excluded 10
who had bought up those ciaims.
Mr. PARKER said that it 30 designed, and that II
dlc exclude payment 20 such PERSONS
Mr.. M0NULrA Csep. Il) said shat while n prevented
the pay meut OF the lobby by the Secretary Of the
Treasury IL provided for payment TO the Treasurer of
the Choctaw nation who woud pay 10 tue lopby and
Mr.. PARKER replied to that objection. and argued
that safer way proyle for the payment
the money than that proposed In his suhst ute. Il
could not I've paid the individual Indians by requiring
each of hei 10 come TO Washington VITA his squaE and
his papoose To require that would only an indirect
way OF avoiding payment 1t would DO only repuiia-
tiOn IN another form.
Mr.. MCNULTA. who Is a member Of tho Indian Com
mission. expressed his belief in the istce OF the eaim
eved tnat under them the CI0caw Indians would
never get dollar. He believed every propo
sition to pay the individual claimants resisted and
because rumoreG around the cJnntee-rOom that
the Washington lobby owned every dollar of those
Mr.. C0MINGO Dem., MOI, also a member OF the
Indian COMMISSION offered substitute similar IN sub
forbds payment TO any assignee, and requires 1t 10 be
made 10 the individual Indian or his heirs lie Explained
the amendment and said that had been agreed upon
by subcommittee OF the Commission On Indlan
Mr. FORT Q2ep., III objected to all the propositions,
because there merit IT 1t should be presented IN
independent measure. and not rider To an APP
propraton Dill in which shape most OF the obiectioDabe
measures Of late years uncluding the Pacific Mail
OF attorneys and spectators. He knew attorney
who had claim against II OF $4,000 Tor fees, and there
sat man now in the gallery wac had said within "a
hours that he had taken stock it to the amount of
81 ,O00 In fact IL nothing but pool and playthn
That kicked about IRON one end OF the avenue 10
the other. s-.....
Mr.. PARKER Qaep. Mo)-Glve US the name of that
Mr. FORT-I will give his name whenever a Commit
tee is appointed TO investigate this matter ana hope
that one viii be appointed: know what am talking
about and am not 10 DO frightened by the gentleman
from Missouri Dlr Parkeigi .-...,
report made by the Solicitor OF the Treasury IN
1872 setting ont tat there WAS no merit Whatever N Ve
Mr. sAYLGR Csep. Ind) also opposed the pending
propositions and cited the act thai the senate ltse IN
the very session following that when the ward was
made refused to make an appropriation 10 carry out
the ground that the award had been rendered. hastily
and without due consideration.
Mr. HARRIS REP, Mass.), a member OF the Indian
Committee. explained and advocated the aIDeudmont OF
red oy MT cS1sU me Su f naa rea %fS9 Sn Sr
"net profits" being the amount which went into the
Treasury OF the United States from the sale of the
MT. sPEER Dem, Penn, said no would not vote for
the proposition in any shape While admitting good
and honesty the part OF the friends Of the meas
ure he did believe that the ella IN was just, or ta
the efforts pass were such as anV honest man SHOULD
hold He quoted the opinion OF Senator FeSsenden de-
the isuce OF tile claim, ana ne also quoted inc
opinion OF Solicitor Banheld that tie claim was c0m
petely barred, an opinion In whlcn SecreI9rTTy
boutwell, had declared his concurrence. lie
asked the House whether, when the cry for more
going up IL was gong TO appropriate three
four millions pell-mel-for what and TO whom IL
claims pledged II the money were paid 81 900 900
OF 1t would 20 the bands OF those Who DAD dis
graced Congress years. and before long there would
be connected with as bad as that OF the Pacific
Mr sHAEKs (Rep., Ind) thought it unTaclous TO
try and make ChOetaw 1ndiauB respnDsioe FOR de-
felt in the revenue, and still uIgraciOus to make
them responsible for the dsEOnOr OF the House or t
surroundings. II added virtue 20 an American states
man to step back behind the lobby in order to cheat the
msnf was indebted TO the Choctaws second now much
the debt was: and, third, how 10 would be paid.
Mr.. SCOFIELD (Repr PenD.) rdlculed the llea Shat
a solemn treaty and solemn award OF the Senate ustl
fed this claim. He had studied the subject. and
mad then come to he conclusion tnat the claim, from
beginning to end, fraud on the General Govern
ment. He undertook 10 say that the senate never
made any award, solemn or not solemn. under the
treaty of 1866. 1t had passed resolution one
day that the best way - settle the claim
al Is acre, ana directing the Secretary OF tue lnte
nor to make calculation as TO how much that would
be and TO report Congress. The Senate haa never
since acted that and that was the terribly
award that the House had heard 50 nuch aoou
and under which 81 0OW0 $CO0 we're 10 Do p2id 10
10000 poor ChOctaws, who had only 1OOOO0 acres OF
land with not a acre among hein) anu who mad
all expenses OF their schools ana government pd
for. - -, w.t., c..
Government had got 0O0,0O0 OF land belonging
Choctaw aud had got In the Treasury prOht OF
81 10000 the sale OF that land anu " Dln That WAS
solemn matter
Tue amendments were further opposed by Messrs
THOMPSON Kep., Pennl BlERf (lsspr Penh.I, VII
son Qiep., Ind), and HOLMAN Dem, lnd). tlndly
the discussion closed and the first question was on
Mr. Comingo's amendment substitute for Mr. Par
Mr ParEer's substitute for Mr. LOughbridge's
amendment agreed TO- and then Inc WhOie plOpos-
ton was rejected-Yeas SO. Nays 1877.
The next amendment was one To pay TO the Ohicka-
SAWS OF interest on trust bonds ned ny
che Government and it rejected without DIVISION
Tie Aill passed by vote OF 1872 Yeas 10 u
Nays. and the House. at 5:i5 p. me- adjourned