The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-20

and strength and courage to 20 on: Mr.. Beecher
many times Mr. Moa H invited him the occasion
on when Mr. Beecher TOOK me by the hand IN the
parlor was In the spring or fall OF ISL; ne walked
up and down the noor and asked me II knew
anything Of his sorrow; said did; he said he
knew expressed sympathy for him; can't say
then described the interview where Mr.. Beecher
SAID ne vas worn out and heart broken and ut
terry Without comfort or hope, and then he lay
down on the lounge; he said he had come to see
me and Mr.. Moulton.
@ Mrs. Moulton, you remember when Mr..
Beechcr called at your house and had long talk
with you about this trouble A. Yes, sir.
O. Now, tell US the language Mr.. Beecner used
on that occasion, as near as you can remember IL;
state what you said and what he said.
Witness-He began by saying he was despondent
and dishe ear ne expressed great sorrow and
children he said he was very sorry or what he
had done with Mrs; llton; said that he had re.
pented and now felt better fitted to preach he
was sorry that Mrs. Tlton had confessed TO her
husband; alter laying on the SOFA Tor while he
the tears streaming down his cheeks; he said, at
is very hard, after long lie OF usefulness,
should De brought 10 thus rear and death - told
was by conessing 1t; said, III YOU viii only go
down 70 your church and acknowledge all
guilty Of great crime and viii have now to take
acknowledge the crime That Frank would stand
by him TO the last; told MIN how sad 1t was 10
nave lost my faith In him; ! have never beard
not think you were doing wrong; have always
believed you as the one good man in the world,
to church until you have proved your repentance
by making confession the people will stand by
cerey desire forgiveness; told him i'm wo s not
believe In his true repentance unless he did so; 1t
was very hard for Mr. Triton and his friends to be
traduced, and he, Mr.. Beecher, need have no fear
lie would not receive him -
Mr.. E Eadt Is what you said to aim'
witness III the narrative
Witness resumng--l told him Mrs. Tlton was
to say that he wanted me to be kind to her ana
treat her well; he said there was no more hope
HE WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE;
ne SAID ne had no fear OF death, but rather onged
" Q. DID you believe at that time he would commit
suicide A. Yes, sir, at that time; he said that
ne passed through great remorse and mental suf-
PEELED to put on a pleasant smile. and thai when
he went In his pulpit he had TO appear at his best.
g. Az what time did he come to your house at
tnat 1ntervleHr A. ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK; about
Q. Mrs. Moulton, aid You not say that Mr..
Beecher sent a message by you TO Mrs. T,lton ?
Now, what time was 1t that you we're asked to
bring that messenger A. don't remember the
time; he would always ask me when he called at
my house If had seen Mrs. Thton; / can't say ex.
actly when IL was that he sent message by me to
Q. Can you not tell about the time he sent the
message you refer to to MRS. Triton A. | do not
recollect he sent messages by me to her at differ
Q. When was the frst time he sent a message by
you to ner ., A. cannotte the first time.
g. How % Long after the long interview be-
sent the first MESSAGE A. IL was before that In
tervlew.
q. Was the first message sent in 1871 or '72p A.
can't tell now whether 1t was In VI or W.
Q. Where did any interview occur wnen he sent
messages by you to Mrs. Tllton and about what
time was It A. lie asked me nearly always to
take messages to her; he asked me to find out If
she was In need OF any Injuries; he told me to
foil ha hfc Tn tori l,av,
to Mr.. T1lton.
Q. There Is. then, no other message that you re-
TINS nature 4. lie told me he had no latin Ia
her; she was all the time making It worse and
Q. What was the general character of Mr..
Beecher's messages to Mrs. TiltonY A. Mr..
Beecher's messages were always Kind and anec-
tionate; he told me she could have everything she
needed, aud to be hopeful and courageous; don't
remember the time she was living with her
Q. MRS. Moulton. after receiving this note, dated
Jnne1 1873 you nave SAID you mad a conversation
with Nj. Beecner on the Monday after that date.
know the day OF the week; remember the letter;
tnat Is the only way nave OF fixing the date.
calling at your house A. MIR. Beecner csSed nj
my house on the next day to see Mr.. Mouiton.
Q. Was Mr.. Moulton IN the house when he calleds
A. Mr.. MoultOn was In the house at the time.
q. Was this conversation which you have given
between Mr.; Beecner ana ysurse! the last one
sir, he had with me; the last conversation we had
o. Now, between June O. 1873 and the 18th OF
July, 1874, was there any other INTERVENE which
you had with Mr.. Beecher ofany Importance A. ON
one occasion ne met me at my house and thanked
one or the best trends that he had ever had.
z. Now, was this visit OF July 10 to you or to Mr..
Moutonf A. The visit Of Mr.. Beecner was to my
Q. Did you remain in the room during the inter.
view OF Mr.. Beecher with your husbandf A. was
not present at that Interview; my conversation
was with MIR. Beecher before my husband came
their conversation was held in the study; Mr..
MoutOn was In the house when he called; he was
preparing to go somewhere when Mr. Beecher
called 1t was before evening at the time; asked
mi. Gsecaer sS come up stairs wita me to the
q. row long did you remain in conversation
with him on that occasion A. The time passed
there was. should say. about ten or fifteen min
utes before my husband came up.
Q. How did that conversation come about Mrs.
Mout0n, please state what passed between you
said to MIR. Beecher, .'Mr. Moulton is very angry
with you, Mr. Beecher. What have you done9 He
Is angry. with you because you have called the
ing him In the matter" He said 1t was against
his better Judgment that 1t had been done; Frank
VIXEN Mr. BeecheT vent DOWN stairs at the end
Mr.. Moulton said to Mr.. Beecher, "well, Mr..
mlttee an honorable one," and Mr. Beecher an
swered, Eyes sir; do, sir;" l said to him, DO
you know what MIR. Tnton intends to doSn and he
said he did not; l told him Mr.. Triton was going
to publish q statement OF facts lot the public
THAT WILL RUIN You, Mr. BEECHER;'
said to Mr. Beecher, HE will publish that letter
OF conesslon;" he said, If 1t Is published 1t will be
o breach OF contract; he had made no confess
SION; !" told him meant the letter OF apology
given in confidence 10 Frank; he said 1t would be
breach OF ialtn II that was published: he said,
''Let them come on and do their worst, they cam
not ruin me;" said l didn't know what TO do;
MIR. Tilton mad been long friend OF ours; that he
had suffered long tlme and that he couldn't en-
dure T. any longer; said, If you had taken my
advice at first and made confession OF your crime
1t would have been all right now; your church
would nave forgiven you;" he SAID he would
never do that; he would never confess; ne would
die before he would make any confession.
Q. Well, as to Mr.. Iilton's intentions to publish
q statement OF which you told Mr.. Beecher, how
did you come TO know anything about them? A.
read card from Mr. Tilton which was puonshed
in the Eagle.
@. was there anything In that card about MIR.
Iiitons intending to bring suit at law2 A. No,
sir.
O. Then, how did you know that he was going
to bring suit against Mr.. BeecherY A. heard MI.
TIt0n say that lie would.
@. How long before you told Mr.. Beecher this