New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-09
MR.. BEFCHER SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT
..-r LAWYERS WE'RE ENGAGED. .

MIR. BEFCHER SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT
..-r LAWYERS WE'RE ENGAGED. .r
@. Did Mr.. MoultOn at or about this period,
relation the situation OF this period ever say
anthng to you in regard to any consultation with NJ
Tracy in any OF these matters A. He did
q. About when Was thati A. cannot give you very
definitely; 1t sometime in December OF that year
G. II in the vicinity Of the conferences that you
have spoken OFF A. Yes, Sir.
@. IN point Of time. Well, Sir, what passed Det"eeh
you and Mr.. Moulton that su6ecti A. We were "iA
ing abou-something about the matters and he dropped
incidentally that he had-hs lawyers had adviseu
him so and so, and started with surprise. Your law
yers" Yes" said he; havethe fact IT, the respoh
siby Of this is such that will not carry II along
any further without legal advice; but said he MI
TracyI called in Mr.. Tracy; he Is friend OF yours
And the conversation went said nothing more
about 1t.
Q. That all that passed that subjects A. Ihat
was all that passed on that subject ...
@, Had you been consulted in any way IN ADVANCE
about Mr. Tracy being referred to or brought into tne
consultations A. No, Sir.
@. Was he in any way designated pointed ont OF APP
proved by you person TO be consulted in your pena
your representative There WORD said
it, about him, about any other body being
called in.
Mr.. FulertoA-No One moment.
The Witness cOntinuing]-The universal understand
ing that nobody was to be called in
Mr.. Fullerton-DOnt 60 beyond answering the ques
ton.
Mr.. Evarts-I call your attention now, Mr. Beecher, 20
some statements that Mr.. MoultOn has made on tniS
subject
uas verv nyions that should make some statement
with regard to the Victoria Woodruff publication, mas
eral Of his friends several of mne had criticised
my position in reference to the story that tney Io 70,
my relations to the story; and I said 70 MI.
Beecher that Mr.. Woodruff recommended me, under der
said to Mr.. Beecher that had asked Mr. Woodruff ,s
whom he could recommend and he said that Nc %oI4
thought Mr. Tracy good man " consult on the SUI
ect that he had good cool head on his H M
Beecher: II you objection viii consult WIN
Gen. Tracy but to consult wal Gen. Tracy and 70 egI
him the truth. II you have no objection; then, wiz
assent to my partners wish and consult mat T e had no
objection II Thoughtful was best, and said that quo
informed Mr. Beec6er afterward-T said Mr.. Beecher
afterward that had told my partner that was ~iliS
consult with Gen. Tracy, and that he had made an
appointment with Gen. Tracy.
O. Now Sir did any conversation Of that kind occur
A. Oh no. Sir 1t is all imaginary; the memory dead ana
the fancy very active
O. Now after an interview did anything Of this kind
occur that IL, after supposed interview between MI
Moulton and Mr.. Tracyi Mr.. MOulton says:
said to Mr. Beecher told Mr. Tracy the truth OF tne
matter told him the fact in the case ~ 1t wa that you
had been guilty OF sexual intercourse WIN ~ nv narnr
that that was true 1t must be concealed at all aazaros
A. Who saidi
@ That was said to you by Mr MOultoni A. That
said thati
G. No; Mr. Tracy.
Judge Nelson-Commence your question anew.
MI Evarts-No, it is not; II is Mr.. Beecher, said.
Judge Nelson-Better commence your question anew.
MI Evarts-Dd Mr.. MOuton say anything OF TINS KIND
10 you after reference to q supposed interview he
had had with Mr.. Tracyi
told Mr.. Tracy the truth Of the matter told him the
fact in the il that you had been gity or
sexual intercourse with Mrs. Elizabeth Tton. and he
[meaning Tracy said in the presence OF my Paransr
that If that was true II must DC coheeaieu at ai
Did Mr. Moulton make any such statement as that 10
youi A. No such statement; absolutely false through
and through, from end 10 end.
O. And did he continue, or further say:
And said THAT is, Moultonl that Mr. Tracy said, that
although he did not recommend yhg ths was Que VI 'e
IN which lying was Justlnabie.
A. He never told any such thing.
O. Now at any subsequent interview, did Mr.. moulton
state 10 you that
We have had consultation at my house in my study
between Gen Tracy. Mr.. Woodruff, and myself and ne
tween Gen Tracy, Mr. Woodruff Mr.. Thton and myself;
and that at that interview told MI Tracy again the
truth aud have laid before Mr. Tracy the letter VI con-
triton
A. He never told me anything nke-that is, that nor
ANYTHING from which that could be, even by distortion
fabricated said anything 10 him on the SUBJECT
nor he 10 me, except what have narrated.
O. Did he also say did he say at all, that he Moul-
tom had communicated the facts to Mr. TiltOn; that he
had told Gen Tracy the facts in the and that Thee
dore Tilton had denounced him MOulton for 80 doing,
and had
said 10 me that had business 70 reveal the guilt Of
Fzabeth 10 Mr. Tracy without his consent, and that
had pacifed Mr. Tlton by telling him that haa cousid
cred il my duty
A. Wholly artificial and false.
O. Now Sir did you say, by way Of reply or at ALL to
lad fhatT
sented TO that conference and that you hoped some good
would come out OF it, but that you did not see yourself
what reply could be made and that you considered per-
haps the policy of silence the best for all con-
cerned A. No, Sir there such statement II Is
part and parcel Of the whole lie.