New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-23

cussed In tho evening: thsre nsy have been oos 'r ~
| changes.
O. Did no name any additional names in III, evening
that had not been named IN thc AFTERNOON w hiin'
My mind IA rot clear On that
O. Didn't hs psne Ne. winsov' A. Me-. W'hso"r
name VIA before tbe conference IN tho evening
O. Mr. White. Was there q conference in .hc evrii'ns
with reference To the name, who should be upos IN"
Commlttcet A. That question WI, h,cn'Se' VI i"'
evening
O. Was there conference upou thai snseci A. fo'
Dir.
O. understood you that mr Beerhsr had NAMED OF
ths persons who acted upon tho ComiDiIeef n lou VI"
derstOod mo
Mr.. shearman-wIh ono exception
Mr. Morris-wbat exception was that!
The witncss-What was the questions
O. What person did not Mr Bcocher name who formed
a part OF that Committee A. Ny recollection II thsl me
name Of Mfr. winslow WIS suggested 6y somooody.
O. Who suggested IT a. think dii
O. Now haven't you sworn. Mr.. cieVei'nh' "'t y''
suggested name OF that Comnittee'
Mr. Shcarman-Wa!t "a moment; 1 0'goo' ." ''"
Mr. M0rris-I ask you the question
Mr. Bhcarman-T obl, ct "a II.
Mr. Morris-What Is the objection 7
Mr.. Shonrnan-I object on tho ground NAV ID mus ~
shown 10 the witness; what he has said on thai s"J>
$50 pages OF rOs,exainination
Mr. Morri. We will nnd t. FRO the witness. IL that
the only name that WAS Auggff'th '" WI i"N'''
cannot give all tho details ~ the di''N-aio VI "'
that afternoon and evening.
O. | am not asking you ahort that Is INV u' ""'
name tina, was suggested to Mr. Bcecher'
Mr. Sbcai1nan-D0es that question mean ar any uh''
Mr. Morris-At the conference in ITO evening
Jnde. NeiIson-In other words. do you rcolleot "h'
other name Mr. Cleveland. thai was suggestcd po'''
Mr. Winsowsi A. II is true, In fisci that oil tue h'T
were suggested to Mr. Beecher; that il to say the names
were In the minds of Othr gentlemen interested W t"
matter leading names IN Plymouth chrrch An" '"''''
which occurred also 10 Mr. Beeoher Wnh no i''uo NV "
mind to demand IN investigation
@ Now ask YOU again who fr.t suggested me hh'n >
who acted upon that Investigating Cohhi''e'' wv" Wv
exception OF Mr.. winslow's nanei
Mr. Shearman-I ask that the c0unSf' let ,hh VIM
whether he Is referring 10 particular i'
viow mr. any interview or course, that makes i'o'h
difference. ,, IT,,
Mr. MorrIs-I am referring to what the question I'M
pljes ask him who first suggested t'ie h'"'s vi Va"
persons who composed that Committee WIN 'ne w
ccpt,on OF Mr. winslow. That IL very simple pus'""
Mr. Shearman-I take It that means at any Interview
Mr. Morris-It means just what 1t says
Judge Neson-It must bc either the afternoon or even
Ing You are really nquring about the evening Wen.
Mr.. Cleveland.
Mr. shearman 1t means at any Interview
Mr. Moris--Oh never mind, Mr.. Shearman We VIII
get along.
Mr. Shearman-Welf we are Trying Vo get hi"nb
Mr. Morris-I don't want any assistance. Examining
the Testimony taken at Mr.. Cleayelanis housed
Mr. Eyarts-That Is not necessary.
Mr. ReoohIt IL made necessary by the last answer OF
the witness.
Mr.. sheannan-Ii your Honor please. this remark OF
oges me to say that IL is really made necessary
m the fact that counsel undertakes first to ask separately
about two interviews, and Mr.. Cleveland answers th
durng The afternoon interview Mr. Bcecher suggested
MIA into
gestcd 10 Mr. Beecher Now lie ia asked question as 10
who first suggested names and leaves the matter IN
doubt in the witnesses mind whether no Is asked as 10
one interview or to both interviews
Mr. MorrIs-That is not my question. My question IT,
Mr. Cleveland who first suggested the names OF tho gen
t,emeu who acted upon that Committee with the e1cep-
ton Of Mr.. NinslOw don't thlnk thofo ID Any sin
b,uity about that question.
Mr. Shesrman-I say II means At any Tine
M, Morrls-Neyer mind what 1t means.
Mr. shearman--I do mind what II means.
Mr.. Eysrts-Of course il il important what 1t means.
Mr. Morris-It Is u very simple question.
Judve Nellson-You must allow Mr. Sherman, how
ever TO object when he thinks there is occasion for It.
Mr. Morris-He can make his objection, but 1t Is not
proper that he should DO continuing these observations
Now ask answer to that question In that precise
form.
Judge Neilson-It stands this way, Mr. Cevelsnd You
think you suggested Mr.. WnsOws name. Now the Ques
ton is. who suggested the other namesi A. IL your
Honor please in the afternoon interview Mr. Beecher
named seven or eight persons In h church and society
out OF whom he should hope to find Committee that
should Investigate that whole matter.
Mr.. Morris-My-
Mr. Eyarts ITO the Witness We'll, go on.
Mr. Morrls-was that the first suggestion as to the
namesi A. That was tho first interview, In the after
O. Now. AL, you the question again. Who first sug-
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nttee, with the exception Of Mr.. wlnslOwt
Mr. Tracy-I submit the witness has answered that
question
Mr. Morris-TIe has not
Mr. Traoy-Ths is the third time it has boon put and
distinctly answered
Mr. Morris--It has not yet been answered
Mr. TracyIf the policy OF the counsel is to repeat the
same question and get the answer all day, why let
us know tha Tho witness has distinctly stated who
were the names that first suggested. and by whom
Mr. eecher-in the afternoon OF that day That was the
first suggestion that had been made OF names.
MI BeachThis inputation, Sir, ought not to be per-
mttcd to rest upon We ask this gentleman who first
sigeested the names composing this Committee with the
exception OF Mr.. winslow Instead OF answering that
oesou he says that Mr. Beecher In the afternoon sg-
gested seven or eight names nom whom he hoped the
committee would bc formed. That is not answer to
our question Sir We ask who suggested the names that
Intimately formed the Committee with the exception or
Mr. WinslOw who was suggested by tho witness. III he
will make an answer TO the simple question. In direct
way it will cud the Inquiry that subject and not till
then.
judge Neilsoa-N0w, NJ. Cleveland. acting on that
suggestion.
Mr.. shearman ITO Mr. Beach lie says Mr. Boocher.
Mr.. Beach, know he says NJ. Becchcr Why can't he
say 50 at Oncei
The wtness-I simply say In answer to that que on
that Mr. Beecher named la the first interview al the per
sons " hose names have given.
Mr.. Morris-That is not the question.
Judge Nelson Proceed go ON, Sir And In the even