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q. Well, what was that
Mr.. Beach-That IL objected 10.

Mr.. Evarts-I have a night TO give the mt CATION by
showing what said.
Judge Neilson-That you have given.
Mr.. Eyarts-Now the witness says not unless this
single remark which he has already referred TO. and
which be was not allowed TO give, a negation.
Judge Neilson-Well, that rule would admit any
versaton that might be suggested in the absence Of the
party in interest
Mr. Eyarts-Not necessarily. should think. II your
Honor please; IT would admit any qualifying statement
in the denial which the witness makes that suppose
a witness is always entitled TO.
Judge Neilson-Yes and think you could ask him
now whether in that single observation any direction
was given in respect to her answers.
! Mr. Evarts-Well will ask him that ITO the wit
ness In that single observation TO which you refer.
was there any direction given respect her answers
| A. No Sir.
Judge Neilson-It seems to me, Sir that covers the
| ground.
Mr. Eyarts-well Sir, that ia efficient believe it is
| already in evidence by Mrs. Ovington
Mr.. Beach-No; you are mistaken
MT Eyarts-Now, Mr. Tracy, Mr.. Tilton says this also
In respect 10 this same interview he says that you said
| 70 him.
Now, II you take right advantage of Mrs Tiltons APP
Of those gentlemen toward all the parties in the
particularly toward you now IL opportunity to sup
| press the scandal forever.
| Then he proceeds:
1t lis !, woman, rght he say' to deny ii let her deny
DENIAL and II can be made
Did you say anything OF that kind to Mr. Tiltoni A.
No. Sir except that said that she had denied ii, and
that she said that it her right her duty deny
! that statement
@ Mr. Tracy, certain passage between Mr. Tilton and
yourself before the Committee in regard to your acting
AS counsel notwithstanding what you had said him,
has been given in evidence and in that statement the
statement that you had previously notified him; you
| remember the occurrence before the Committee In
| which, A. I do.
q. Yes; well that is-that believe is sufficiently In
cvdence-nOw Mr. Tracy before that time had you given
notice 10 Mr. Tilton and when and howl A. had given
! him notice.
q. When was that A. Wel ii between the 10th
and the 18Th Of Juy cannot state definitely as was
seeing M TiltOn almost daily from the 27th OF June
until about the 18Th Of July sometimes oltener than
once a day.
Mr. Beach-What yeari
The Wtness7i and it Ia impossible for me to state,
therefore, with defniteness the time; but
was after had heard Of his conversation at OyingtOns
on the 9h of July and am inclined to think it after
had heard his wife had left him. but of that am not
! certain.
Mr.. EvartsWhcre did it occur, the interview or the
conversations a. / think It occurred at the club.
| q. The Brooklyn Clubi A. The Brooklyn Club-it may
have been al my Office Mr. Triton in the habit Of
dropping in at my Office frequently; and lie was also in
the habit OF dropping in at the club when was taking
lunch or at dinner; and met him in the street often
We had casual Conversations at times we had set con-
vcrsations and it Of the casual conversations
either IN my Office or al the club When told him
@ We'll, what passed between you-how was the mat
ter Introduced A. Referring to the conversation in
| 1872 said 10 him. Mr. TntOn, long you adhere
to the that you then stated 10 me- shall adhere TO
the promise made you but desire to say to you that
when you change your against Mr. Beeehcr II You
do and state a different from what you stated
IN mo Tghq mot ri nv n
us binding upon me-"
O. What did he say to thati A. lie said that he could
not see whether-how that would release me from my
promise; that had made my promise not to be counsel
for Mr.. Boechcr in he and Mr. Beccher came INTO
| collision; and whether he stated the same case no"
against Mr. Beecher that he stated then or not he ala
not see that that would release told him thought
did, that that was matter OF Judgment, whether IL
did or not It was my judgment that 1t did, and that
! SHOULD act upon it in that contingency.
O. Did he say any thing in regard TO it A. think he
did not that was the substance Of the interview
@. Now, you nave said that you frequently had meet
ings casual otherwise, with Mr.. Tlton during this
| period. What your relations, friendly Or A
! Friendly.
O. We're these interviews any OF them sought or in
vited by youl 4. None that | remember, not single
one; every interview ever had with Mr.. Tlton, so far
"a now remember was either sought by himself, was
the result Of an appointment made by Mr.. Moulton.
| q. y.
O. But not through youi A. Not through Inc, nor at
my solicitation.
Mr.. BcachITc does not include in that the casual in
tcrycws of which he has spoken OF the club other
| wise.
Mr. Eyarts-Wc interviews that were entirely casual.
The Witness-Oh, accidental meetings in the street
could be said TO be sought By no one, but when MT I'll
ton sought me at the club, when was uncing and sat
down at the table and had conversation with me, |
treat that interview sought by him.
O. You didn't seek interview; you didn't commence
or seek the conversation at the club with him, finding
| him thercl A. No, Sir; and the club Ia not the place
where Mr. Tilton in the habit OF resortng except to
one that IL, never saw hun thcrc-I think
never Mr.. Tilton at the club except when no had
come to have some interview with me; don't remem-
| Der that ever did.
O. recur TO the interview. Mr. Tracy, that yon,
| supposed, completed-the interview of the 9TH Now,
| Mr.. Tilton says this, coming from you
| He said, (spcaking Of you Mr.. Ton saysh lie salu
something like thl- There are number OF genteinen
summon Mr. Beecher, and he can say what nc % hc
little or much b mex S In te on much they can
mon You and you say what you chooS9, t their
report and on the basis OF the truth for they won ~
quire enough get the truth they WI be peope
choose to put down before them, and what you wa
choose put down before them only only, would be- to
proper gentlemanly, and respectful report "o"'u ~
/ the advantage Of all parties" ,,. cub
Now Sir did you have any conversation OF .i' suD
stance or A. No. Sir not in the sense that Is tneie
tod. tho oues,ion of the mode In which the Commit
tee would get witnesses before them was probably MS
cussed and it was quite likely stated that they had 10
compulsory
MFR Beach-Well had little rather that TINS gentle
man would not reason the subject II he WILL give us
| the benefit OF his recollection.
Mr. Fyarts-No matter: just give us what you reieni
bt l. vour recollection upon the subject A. Well
oI,ect that the Committee and its mode OF proceed