New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-21

No. Sir; there was no such thing ~ that sa"'
O. Nothing Of that kindi A. No, Sir; 1t was tne re-
verse; II was M have stated II.
O. Did you say in reply: "That Is great relief; and
II Gen Butler will act "a my friend and adviser he VIII
be the Moses that takes through the wdernesst A.
No. Sir.
O. Nothing OF that kind 7 A. Nothing Preposterous
O. Did you say to him, in substance d" Gen Butler Il
great man God Almighty permits but one or two snch
men to DO born In . century," A. No, Sir no. oir'
daughter
@. And didn't You say, Will follow MS ah'ice' WHY
ever IL is" A. ! did not
O. Didn't Mr. Bowen say 70 you, In substance, I" Cen
Butler docs not ntrude his advice opinion upon you
A. He did not to my recollection, say any such thinS.
O. And didn't you reply. in substance unders'an"
that" A. No. Sir.
O. Now Mr. Boecher did you send any one to sec Gen.
b utter on that interview A. I did not
O. Did you request anybody to got A. did not
@ Did anybody go your behalf A. There diu OF
as understood that, there did.
O. Did you communicate your interview Win Mr'
Bowen to any one after that A. Immediately went
down stairs after he had had this interview, and com'
nicated-
O. ono moment. Did you communicate II TO any onei
A. l. did. -.
O And did that person to whom you communicated 1t
20 70 Boston to SEQ Gen. Bucri A. One OF them did.
O. was It not at your requesti A. Not that reconect
1t was the result OF consultation.
O. You agreed to It, did youi A. didn't maze MY
objection TO It,
O. Didn't you approve Of III A. Yes, Sir, presume
did; but don't distinctly recall that.
g. When did that person got A. don't remember
O. How soon after the interview A. That cannot
say; not a great while.
O. About how long A. should say within fort
night but could not locate 1t more definitely.
O. Can you not fix the day when the person wenti A.
No Sir | cannot; I do not know.
O. Did the person report to you after his returnf A.
have recollection OF hearingyes. think rccolect
only one single thing.
O. Did the person who went to Gen. Butler report
to You after his return A. He talked with me no dd
not mako % formal report TO me-
O. don't suppose he made a formal report. Did be
communicate to you the substance what purported to
be the substance, OF what took place between him ana
Gen. Butleri A. No, Sir; he communicated to me his
impression Of the result.
Mr. Fullerton-No, I ask you that question.
The witness--He did not.
Mr. Beach ITO Mr.. FullertOn1 He says he communi-
Gated the result
Mr. Fulcrton-Did he communicate tho result OF tho
Interview A. lie communicated to me the impress
sion which the whole interview had left upon his mind
O. without telling you what took placef A. without
telling what took place.
O. Now, who that person that went to Dostont A.
Gen Tracy.
he did.
O. Did you have an interview with Con. Butlori A.
No, Sir.
O. Mover saw him upon the subjecti A. Mover saw him
upon the subject.
O. Did you write him upon the subjectt A. Never
wrote him.
O. Did you got any otter from him upon tho SUD-
jectf A. never did
O. Now Mr.. Beecher call your attention to tho In
stanocs in which you walked with Mrs. Thton-
INF Beach hero made whispered suggestion to Mr.
Fulcrton.l
MI FuIerton-Yes, there Is one question have omit
ted.
O. In this conversation with Mr. Bowen. did You
speak of Tracy your COUNSEL A do not recol-
lcct that did, Sir.
O. Don't you recollcct OF Mr. Bowen asking you who
your counsel wasI A. No. don't recolcct that he did.
O. And you don't rccolcct of telling him that Gen
Tracy was your counsci A. do not recolect it 1t Is
quite possible but don't recall 1t.
O. 1t Ia quite possiblei A. IL Is quite possible Dut
don't rccoect any such thing.
O. Was Mr. Tracy your counsel at that timei A. No.
Sir not In the proper Of that term he was my
personal friend and adviser.
O. lie was advising youi A. He advised me whenever
asked advice of him.
O. Well that Is all counsel can do, think. Now do
you recollect OF Mr. Butler being at Mr. Tracy's house
A. No. Sir; don't know where Mr.. Tracy's house is
O. We're you ever at Gen Tracy's housei A. No. Sir.
O. On no occasont A. No, Sir; don't know whero he
lives now.
O. Were you at any house in Brooklyn when Gen. But
Ter was thcrei A. Not that recollect. Sir
O. Don't You recollect OF consulting Gen. Tracy In
regard to your difficulties at time when Gen Butler
was in the house. in another room A. Not that
knew Of Sir.
O. You never were Informed OF that facti A. was not
Informed Of it.
w Al
O. Now, a. to your walks with Mrs. TiltOn;
when did they occur3 A. cannot give yOu any definite
dates 1t in the early period, but whether was in
the Fall OF 1871 anywhere along there. cannot say
with certainty
MI Fyarts-ls7ll He don't mean 1871.
Mr. Fulerton-Yes, he docs mean 1871.
The Witness-Yes, am speaking Of walks with her
ulseguCnt to the breaking out OF the difficulty.
Mr. Fuerton-Cortanly. What time in the Fail OF that
yeari A. cannot say whether II was in the Fall or
whether 1t was in the early Summer
O. Where did the first one take placef A. cannot say
which was the first ono tell you where of them
was.
O. Well. tho frat that you remember of A. The
first that tell Of when going out OF my house,
have forgotten for what Grand Just about silndown
met Mrs Tilton the Of Clarlst and Column
bIl Heights She going over toward tho Heights,
and was coming away. was surprised. We stopped
and had few words Of conversation and sho turned and
walked back with me. and think walked back about rs
faras Uickss somewhere there; Iknow 1t was very
short walk. That ono Of them
O. And there you separatcdf A. There we separated.
O. What time OF day III A. 1t was, as have said,
jus. about sundown.
O. You cannot tell the Of the yearl A. No,
cannot accurately.
O. But you think it was in the latter part OF 1871 A.
should say sometime between-I should say oven
this ia uncertainbut my best recollection is it was be-
md fha late MT ga
not say certainly.
@ when do you recollect Of another walk with her in