New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-07-27

member Who introduced the bin into the Legislature;
remember Who was Chairman nor the names Of
any Of the enbers. think that had no conference ere,
was in Albany about week; never paid any money
TO any mcInber of the Legislature. nor to any Other
10 any member Of the legislature TO anybody who
had influence In tho lessla,nre' tho s,eam.h,p
con a1ies paid Sra or 10000 20 influence leg1a-
t.r DO you say that you have not good reason TO pe
lee that You paid money Tor some u''e'o' p"'p'
o. Did you ever have any money knowing that was
To 80 to a member Of the Legislature OF Suspco' ~ "
was going in that drectlonf A. No. .oo, ,,sit Al.
O. bid any rcrson TO whom you paid money ''si' AZ
banv 4 1 decline TO answer
O. The coneIsion is unavoidable that the money was
distributed Did any person 10 wo, decline TO
witness continued don't remember whether any
body hesides myself ar.ucd the bill before The Com
mitfec think that Bernard Casserly was IN Albany
hnt think that had no conversation with him can
not state the amount received in 1872 in pursuance OF
the arrangement with Che steamship companies l
visited the steamship companies Offices ana asked ior
ter bro rata of Immigrants. My books will show the
receipts Of 1872 They private. not books OF The
firm egsd s a' f n sE sMnf Mr. pe S wanted biz
passed to enable him to hold dock property drafted
| rass.Iee received $3.50 for this service. have
transacted no business for him since that time e.
Ny first work for the steamship companies was IN
1870 Then secured the passage OF phi io me pTSe
cun Of tcEe swnd,rs Ny 3s ~ n w Was 10 ,I
aliens ,ui for business purposes Ihis was
not passed Mr. Burns opposed his Dill: have COW
suited counsel since my examination on saturday; pu
nG fa. a''i'nf st Stated iN0 all the facts him
had stated that they had advanced $4,000 or $50 ooo
to Influence legislation ard wa & tna, . Of
such money except so far as pull. 0itas Me ron
eenci declined 70 answer the C0mtSss Gc re- tor@s
me Ia tell what did with the money - long as dId not
sn@alcr MctuiT1-In 1870 and 1871 you became ac-
nrnted with the Legislature and what cohtfohed 'l"'
O. was it not notorious that Tweed controlled the Sen
ate and that Alexander Frear represented Tweed III INC
O. II was notorious was II not that no hill could pass
the ousc and Senate without the sanction OF AIeAand'
Frear and William NJ. TUcedf a: Yes. ,-e 81.
O. pi your personal presence influence the passage OF
The bin 4. ! think maj it did D.. c,.o., ,,o,,
O. Did Won know SIR Frrar's relations 10 Tweed nom
common runori A. did; did not communicate 10
any person IN Albany directly or indirectly any arans
men; Of Inc LEGISLATURE 1871 did not pay any share
al tins money any rcputcd lobbyist; dd nor gay
lind on c,nt ary OF the money 10 any one ~ Is or
I-72 nor DIVIDE aiy share OF tie money vi h any body
my menoranduns aie itto aIt'cd nfnoliihlnS' h
viii moi produce ten before the Committee; decline 10
answer whether deposited IN more thah ono pahh VI
Gov. Alvord-You might Wen give an answer Mr.
Nolan That VIII fa{a ns G eNReoc a d,c,npr 70
tinI omt and will slit this matt to the bottoni; mi .
Mt on, you're pressing me to the wall. mat ~
nc Gov. AlvcI must press You TO the wall Thcn IN
dstand that you decline soy in what banks You have
Jrpoeitrd your money 4. Well, III think the matter
over and ii do so consistently viii on "Wednesday
q. We're you partner Of Gen. Jonesi A. A quasi
o, Was he counsel to the Commissioners OF Emigration
in 1S7OI 4. think not.
o. Yunvc seen Gen Joncss recent for bis salary mp
70 December, $50. Did You recognize his signature
@. You've seen t.e record Of tn Conm'.sior,r= q
Emigration DO you mink that mas bc'h chaiS'"t y
VIII not answer the question
O. Were you not mistaken in youi statement that Cen
JoncS WA not counsel for the Commissioners Of lni-
e1ation in i.70i \ deI Ne to answer.
O. DO You mink hIt Gen Jones would take pay with
out service 4. o., nI, SIR.
g. Dil cen, oi int MONEY that you received from the
et,m.in COMPANIES ~ Gen Jones \. W, Pr bc
was only quasi partner and was not entitled 10 any
part ul the proceeds Oi the business
@ Did you act as snbeouirel while Gen Jones vas
connected with the Commissioners Ga EmlSfiDni A.
O. Daring $50 were you acting counsel in >uborli-
maze capactyl A. tlinK That was not don't pro-
pose Ia he put in any hole.
q Nou must be convinced that printed record Is
stronger evidence than recollection. Now asH yon
whether or Gen Jones counsel FOR the Commits
sioners OF Emigration ~ DHGmOeI; Inso' II W',% yoi
didn't act after 1859 received II 900 the
sS16'j'jng Iii mis- link WA" paid 10y Mr. Dale
q Were you lobbyist or coursell H. | was counsel /
Mr. Nolan continued only remember in rc gard TO
the b The prevention of ticket swindng tha IT was
IN ali by nc from The steamship companies Will not 20
below $1,000 and believe NOT below $4,000; il may
Gov &lvofd~Now, Mr. Nolan, do you consider this u
fair and honorable professional ar-I re'cr 70 your en-
hold such information is you haVei A. have.
@ II your cOnduc; professional man ilts been hon
oiihle have yen a right nCmau to set back like "A
mule and refuse 10 answ,ri \. ] have
GOV. Aiyoid-Wc are not dealing with you as with a
witness in "a court before magistrate, but strIy
Ing information that will protect the people probably
AGAINST the great an whom You seen. to he shielding.
The commit zee have narrowed the matter down that
one man is directly pointed TO. We are determined 10
reach the truth
MIR. EoLANS ACCOUNT WITH TIE UNION TRUST
COMPANY.
Than IF NJ aud
moneys showing Mr.. NOan's account with The Union
Trust Company. Selecting the largest amounts the
question put 10 the witness, TO whom did yOu
that chcck?" lie declined 10 answer in each The
following is the account:
Michael Nolan in account with the Union Trust Company.