The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-19

SsnsSs ann Toe other one q sr James ss sasss
| DO not think ever saw the latter photograph
DO not think gave 1t TO Mrs. TlIon the next is
not give it 70 Mrs. Tilton this is picture Of DR..
Levitt. an Old associate ON the dependent do
not remember ever seeing picture OF DR.. Storrs
Alter Identifying photograph Of General
Morse Mr.. shearman had all the photographs
Mr.. Fullerton then asked the witness some
questions about the photographs as foows:-
Mr.. Fuilerton-Whosep picture Is that-Xr. Beech
er'sY A. Yes, sir; but he Is q much younger man
than he nowis, / should think. by fifteen or
| q. These photographs OF DR.. storrs you never
saw bsIoreY A. Not to my knowledge:
z, Those are four OF DR.. StorrsY A. Yes, sir.
i q And are taken from the same platter A. Yes,
sir; copies OF tho same plate.
| O. UnsoiledY A. Yes. sir.
Q: You 90 not know but what they we're bought
IN Fulton street Yesterday considerable laugh
q. tHandlng more pictures to the witness,
! NOW, take these and see II they are not struck
from the same plateY A. Yes, SIR they arc all the
| same.
| q Frcsha A.. Yes sir.
| q. And were not IN any closet that you know OF
| A. No, cir mot in that closet.
q, You instructed this servant, as understand
you, to to Mrs. Tilton whatever she sent forP
A. told Kate that whatever Mrs. Tilt On sent for
any article in the house. any article of furniture;
] remember sayingh sue wanted any carpets TO
4 send them.
a, 81 Who packed the 'F'nS'' A. Katie Macdonald
| q: And who selected the articles put In thems
| Mr. Snearman then went to work again and
witness stated:-After my wife lett the house
| examined the closets and bureau drawers; I
| went through them all and never saw those pic
| lures; opened her desk; 1t was unl0cked
Macdonald Tor some little souvenirs OF the dead
child, some letters little plaster cast OF the dead
lace. that were altogether IN the box, and sent
| n ha AMI inr.
found the plaster cast IN the box; simply
| opened the box to make sure that the cast was
| there; dldn'r examine the things at ALL sne
wanted particularly the plaster cast or the dead
child ! sent her all the little souvenirs connected
| whit; DO not remember on what day she sent
for them; the letters which were publishes IN
the Tribune between myself and my wife were
floor above; the closet where the Beecher pic ures
were kept was on the second door; my wiIe's
! In another closet; my wife had two or three
rooms for her own, use; these things were
George A. Bell, ex-Superintendent OF Plymouth
Sunday school, VINO na s been twenty,seven years
eleven lie person sH to the Is
1ect type Of strict devout, working CHRISTIAN.
Dressed in nlack, without ornament and with a
hair. He had good plain head, very little side
whskeIs, q large aquiline nose, mouth schooled
manner, which forbade a doubt OF his perfect
sxac.y sprssa one Mr. se nSs
not TO be brought into acqu'escence with
by MIR. Evarts, put let in. lie testified 70 Pastor
Halliday and himself seeing Tllt0n at an early
Stage 10 the no1s'ng abroad OF the scandal lllton
| told he could not 40 SO as there was sonic thing
behind III bearing q Beecher's confession. Bell
longer an officer OF the church he would not as
sent; Halliday. being an officer, might see it; Bell
interhnked with Mr.. Beecher's fortunes, seeing
this confession, while a member Of the church,
equally Interested In It's morality, was not allowed
| reside on Columbia Heights and have Teen
resident OF Brooklyn twenty eight years; l l. .uw
MIR. Bcecher and have been member OF Plymou;n
CHURCH since 1S47; know the Rev. Mr.. Halliday
and recollect meeting Mr. Tton at mis- house;
| fire at Woodruff Roblnson's stores; Mr.. Tilton
was present and the scandal was the subject OF
| Q. In that conversation did Mr.. Tilton endea.
| v0r to Illustrate the innocence or Mrs. Triton by
any figure OF speech rnat he used referring to
Mr.. Evarts-Don't answer, Mr.. Bell Idon't un-
derstand that 1t Is mpetent for the plaintln to
| give TINS conversation In evidence.
Alter some argument The Judge ruled that the
evidence was pertinent, and tue witness re-
think the figure OF a tree was nsed, abiding
to Ills VIE; the interview began, SO lar as was
concerned, by Mr.. Tilton urglnR me to continue In
the parlor into which had been introduced by
the servant girl, she supposing not Knowing. that
the REQUEST OF Mr.. Triton that should remain;
demurred, but as they. both appeared ANXIOUS
commenced then, alter We We're seated, By stating
! his reus0ns for calling on Mf. Halliday; ne said
MouIton; he had told him that Mr.. Beecher had
been to see him the previous night after service,
Informing HIM that there was to be action taken
committee; that Mr.. Bcecher had suggested to
MIR. Moutoh that he should see Mr.. Triton and tell
! him 10 come down and see Mr.. Halliday ana make
! some explanation to him which would make It
unnecessary Tor The deac0us to have their meet
ing; ne then went into long history Of the scan
dai prior 10 tue woodhun Claim pubiIcation
| which pad then Ia Ken place about a fortnight or
Ialrs OF the publisher o. the Independent ana what
| that publisher had stated to him; he said to US
that these matters he gave to us in the strictess
! confidence and they were not TO be mentiGned by
us t. any one; alter ne had done that think he
paused, aud said to him, 'Mr. Titon, If that IS
All there Is OF THIS matter your duty to your wife,
10 Mr.. Beeoher, who Is your PASTOR and your duty
| to your church all demand that you should come
! answer to that that he could not do so; said,
| very polntedly and emphatically, "That IS
ing ing Inc exact words, am me merely tspe Wv.
| ing my memory OF the Conversations l said to
HIM, "that Is absurd; wno Is suffering by this
thng2 Mr. Beecher, your wife, yourself and your
friends, and the church. they all suffering, and
there Is no reason Whatever That should prevent
yonr coming and denying ths tning ~ then made
some remarks ABOUT the gentleman who mad told
me these stories against Mr.. BeecheT; insisted
| "Mf. BeE. / cannot make tnat denial;" said
"Why not Y' "Because," he sand, "there is some
thing IN this thing which prevents me )" said
.'What 10 1t % at this part OF the interview thin
remember took Almost The control OF the con
| versation; he then narrated the circumstances,
the impressions The opinions Of Ills IN regard to
Mr.. Beecher's conduct toward Mrs. luton; VIII en-
| he was through with that I said, even then,
even now, einnot see why you should no leone,
out ana contradict this matter;', he sal d
~ cannot ds sol taere Is tnat truth
in this story told by this woman which
would make 10 worse for Mr.. BeeCner N I
were to come out and contradict 1t than ii It were
let alone. 1t would be as though were 60 10 over
| TO New YORK ana saw Before Mr.. Halliday's house
there Is tree covered with thousand flags OF ali
| natioDs.' Tnat would be q false statement. and
there is the underlying truth In this matter which
! prevents my coming out and contradIctng it.n 1t
was in that connection that the ngurc was used
proof there2 We have this thing merely upon
| your word. You cannot expect us to oeleve such
story as TINS without prOoLn He SAID, "Ihe
proof exists IN writing above the signature OF Mr.
| Beecher. "Well"I SAID, 'let us see that writ
| tng"-brlnRing down my hand empnaticaily. He
| said-I think he said, II cannot do so. IL is not
! In my possession, but have no objection TIA vou