New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-13
OTHER CONTRADICTIONS REGARDING TIE
POISON" INTERVIEW.

tosome attachments made by this lady her
ination, being the same interview concerning which
have questioned you in respect to her statements on inc
direct exanln.;On-some differences in the statements
which viii 10 through with-SOme matters or expires
sion Referring TO IN interview which she puts as OF the
I'd Of june you remember concerning when youha'e
testified had occurred but ut interview do yoa e
member saying anything OF this knd-that yon hau
had sleepless night; that you were very much de-
pressed: that you were utterly without hope; you felt
you must the sympathy or reconciliation OF some
friend and as she was tho only person who knew the
truth in this case you to herr Do you remember
any statement Of that kndi A. That came pretty near
being true but it is not True.
O. What did you say at any interview in regard to that
A. expressed 30 her feelings that had in fits of de-
sroDdency and in great trouble especially where the
trouble rose from seeing the progressive mischief and
ruin that was going in the households that had no
one TO talk 10 about that family and about the affair."
but her. and it great relief to me, When everything
looked dark and gloomy to talk to her, for she was cheer
ful and hopeful
O. Then did she say anything OF this kind: "Mr
Peechcr am very sorry FOR you in this great trouble
there only way out for you and that is by CON
fcssion ami telling the truth; you cannot continue In
this life of deception end hypocrisy; the truth Will come
ont sooner or later" Did Mrs Mouton ever address you
in that wayf A. No Sir il not in her nature TO say
ANYTHING OF that kind and she never didafter long
pausel-Of her own accord
@ Now in reference TO any such suggestion On her
part, what did you mean by cher own accordP
Mr. Beach-No; we move that that be struck out.
The Witncss-I understand you to say she stid--
mr. Evarts-I asked you if she said 1t.
The Wincss-She didn't say IL to me-
O. Now you used an xpresson in answering the ques
ton that she never said it of her own accord
Mr. Beach, to strike that out.
@ Did she ever say il at all 10 your A. only as SAT
here in the audience; that was the first time ever
heard it.
Mr. FuIerton-Thatis not what he meant by good
deal.
The wi;ness-It is exactly what mean, by great deal
more.
Mr Beach ito the witness We cOntradicting
The counsel in HE construction of the matter.
The Witnsos-I beg your pardon; thought it was
addressed TO
Mr. Evarts-I want to oxc!lc the idea that she didn't
say It spontaneously, hlt said it to him.
Mr. BcacL-We under stand what he meant.
Mr. Fulerton-Thcre is but meaning to be attached
lit
Mr.. Evarts to Mr.. Fullertonl-Are you satisfied
Mr. Fullerton-I am perfectly satisfied Let ii stand
1t is without further explanation.
O. Now. in this supposed conversation, in any CONVEX
BaiOn with Mrs Mouton, dilyou express yourself in THIS
form that You could not confess. because yOrr WORK
would be at an end that if yoI could not continue in
your position as moral and spiritual teacher there
would nony left for you do for the sake OF your
clldren-it would he disgrace to them II yOu should
confess this crime; that you would have no hope, and
expression that kini' a. There is a single expression
I'm that but that sentence collectively is false repre-
eentaton It il, not trlc that any such conversation
passed with any such intent In discussing the question
OF editing papcr, said in various conversations that
did moi consider that TO be my prime vocation; that was
moral and religious teacher by the voice, but the idea
of turning aside from my pulpit to edit daily paper
struck me as prcposteIOus: knew my function.
O. Did YOU have any conversation with Mrs MOultOn
in which that formed parti A. doubtless had CONVEX
Stations in presence that saieo because 1t was
talked Of frequently between Mr.. MOulton and myself
The proposition was made to at two several times to
turn aside from the desk and take paper and that gave
rise to conversations on that subject.
O. Now, did she in this supposed conversation, or III
any conversation in answer to your suggestion that they
would forgive youthat people would not forgive, at
all say: 81 said that thought they would forgive him;
that he had great deal of good in the world and
that church bound to him like rs one man al
most and thought they would stand by him. aud You
replied No that crime that they won't forgive; they
won't treat as generously and kindly as you have
donei" A. No. Sir; never said any such thing.
@ Now Mrs. Mouton gives part of her narrative
OF supposed interview: On his part it one long
account OF what he had suffered and how he unwill
ing 10 try and endure any longer that he felt
on that morning that the truth would out and that
lie could not live TO meet it, he had not the strength
either physically mentally" and she said: az
Der that did endeavor to encourage him; told him
thought II very cOwardy thing TO do to take his
,ife" Now did anything of that kind occurf A. No,
Sir.
O. think you said Mr.. Beecher that you did not
MICS Moulton either On that Monday the Tuesday
evening that you in town, folowingi A No. Sir,
did not.
O. DO yon remember any conversation in which Mrs.
@oultOn expressed the opinion that Mr. TlOn was
treacherousi A. Yes Sir. I don't remember converse
tons; remember her TO have used such phrases OF him
O. That Mrs. Moulton expressed such an Opinionf A
recoect to have heard her express such sentiments of
&r. TiltOn. don't remember any particular conversa-
tons In which 1t came up.
O. Now in that connection Of Mr. Tlton's troachery,
did she say this you: 81 told him that thought Mr.
Tilton was filed with revenge and anger against him.
and that often when questions put TO him he made
a reply such as told the whole truthf A. No, Sir.
O. Mr. Beecher you have spoken Of seeing Mrs. MOn
ton ON the 3lst May in the morning. and also in the
evening" and you at the house In the evening also
A. Twas
O. And saw Mr.. Moutoni A. Isaw them both
O. Now Sir on that 81 OF May were you lying upon
the lounge, with pillow, and covered with an afghan
or blanket A. No, Sir; was not
O. There was no interview the 31st OF May In which
you were disposed Of, A. No, Sir; I.neyer was 80
disposed Of on the 3lst OF May.
@ Now Sir there third statement about this inter
view-tbis supposed interviewn which che these
expressions Now, Mrs Moulton states, after lying on
che sofa little while you got up and walked up ana
a very excited manner, with the tears
streaming down your cheeks and said-now ask your
attention to this" He thought very hard after
Life Of usefulness he should be brought to this fear
ful end and said that thought 1t vast was, very
hard there only way out OF 1t for him, there
only for him left, and that was by con
Tossing it," Did any such conversation take place be
tween you and her A. No. Mr. Hvarts there was no
ouch conversation between that woman and me then or
OF any time
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