New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-27


scored also A. ] did not undcrscore 1t.
q. You did not understand what that referred toi A.
No. Sir.
O. You were curious about IT. A. was curious all
the curiosity had with the "spoils;" the word
"spos" seemed to refer TO the check
@ Well did you ever take any means to satisfy your
curiosity except to hold on to the paperi A. MO- oid
not particularly about 1t.
Q. But You were curious, and curious person does
care about the Objectf A. man may have curiosity
in his possession and exhibit 1t all the time-no
every day.
O. Well did you ever make any effort to satisfy your
curiosity A. Not the least
O. And you addressed any person connected with
the establishment OF Woodruff Il Robinson to ascertain
what this paper meanti A. told one Of the firm
O. Did you ever show this paper, consult either OF
the personsi A. have recollection Of ever doing IT,
Q. No recollection that you ever did,
Mr.. Porer-The jury want TO know what he said last
Mr.. Beach-He said he never did-neyer consulted any
member Of the firm about 1t.
The Witness-That recollect.
@ SO far as you know, didn't the firm know that that
paper existed A. told Of them that such paper
as that came with that check
@. Who was that A. jeremiah p Robinson; but 1t
at avery comparatively recent date; not at that
time
@. At what time was that A. Well, should think 1t
was two three weeks ago.
O. About two or three weeks ago-did you show IL TO
him then A. don't recoect that did, Sir; think
did not.
THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TILTON AND
SPIRITUALISTS
Q. Now, on Friday, Sir, when the Court adj
journed, we were speaking of a conversation you had
with Mr.. Mouton you now change the time OF that
conversation from 1872 to 1871 A In the Fall Of 1871;
yes, Sir
O. Have you conversed with any upon the subject
OF when IL since you were upon the stand, Friday
A. knew
O. Have you conversed with any one Sir in regard to
the time since you we're on the stand last Fridayf A.
stated at table
O. Have you conversed with any one; Will you answer
mel A. Yes, Sir have.
@. Whoml A. With my family.
O. With anybody else A. don't recollect that have.
O. Well, try aud recollect; guess you will remember
some else A. spoke with Dr. Bacon this morning
about it.
O. Or. Bac0nf A. Yes.
@ Haven't you spoken with any one else about itt A.
dont-in going away-in going out from the court that
day passed along with Mr.. Hill
Q. All! A. (Contnuingl-and something was said
about the 1872
Q. Yes. A. But II was in connection with
O. Well, you have answered me; now stop Now, you
have been in consultation with Mr. Hill in regard to your
testimony seNcrdl yVuf a. 0Vh iSSNA
lect that have Sir.
0. What. srl A. don't recollect that have, Sir.
O. Before you first up upon the stand, hadn't you
been in consultation with hint A. don't recollect Of
having any consultation with Mr. Hill but once, and then
not att don't know that ever saw Mr.. Hill until
Friday morning.
O. Well. which OF the counsel consulted with you in
regard to your testimony before you we're put upon the
standl A. talked with Mr. Shearman.
q With Mr.. Shearmanf A, Mr. Sherman aAd-and
with Mr. shearman's partner, previous to talking with
Mr. Sherman.
O. Well Sir we have got that conversation now located
in the Fall Of 1871 you certain Of the time amt
youl A. underestimate have understood
@. No, no; I don't want that A. Well am satisfied
In my own mind that that is the time; yes, Sir.
O. Yes You are satisfied in your mind, so that you
are reasonably certain Of the time A am satisfied in
my own mind
O. Did you ever have than one conversation with
Mr. Mouton in regard to Woodruff publication, in
regard to Mr. TiltOnl A. do not recolect OF its ever
occupying any attention between u.s. except on hattim
O. that OCCASION and that Is the only time you
conversed upon this subectthis general subject-a all
with hint A. What general subject do you meant
O. The general subject of the Woodruff publication and
OF this scandal and diicultyl A. or that publication
do not reeOec ever having any conversation with him
but one.
O. Well do you recolect Of having any conversation
with him. except upon that OCCASION with reference TO
this general difficulty, general scandal, aud If So when
and where It'll A. Well now, you will excuse me for
asking you to be little definite than that can't
precisely understand what you would have me answer
Mr. shearman-I cannot hear what you say.
Mr. Beacl-He wanted me to excuse him for asking me
to he more precise he could not understand ITO the
wtnessl Well, you understand the general nature of
this difficulty between Mr. TiltOn and Mr.. Beecheri A.
Yes, Sir.
O. Now do you recoec OF having any other converse
ton than the you spoke OF with Mr. Moulton either
alone or in presence OF any other party when the ex
preston was made Of that the spirtualists were
more numerous than the Congre gationaliss Of the
countryi A. have not
O. Don't recollect but this one occasionf A. recall
that had heard that expression
O. No. no. A. Continuing short time before that.
O. Won't you stop when ask you, Sir Be kind enough
treat YOU courteousy and hope you will A. Ex-
cuse me.
Judge Ncilson-You must listen to the question and
answer the question II you cannot remember, say you
don't remember and let that be the end OF each question
The Wtness-Well, Sir.
Mr. Beach-Now, my question to you, Sir, is whether
you reccoect Of any conversation besides the one you
have mentioned, with Mr. Mouon, in the presence OF
any person, between you and Mr. Moulton, when that
expression substantially that expression was used,
that the sprtualsts numerous than the Con
regationasts OF the countryi A. You ask me If I'M
derstand-if had any conversation heard anything
from Mr. Moulton on from any other Onel
O. No. no; from Mouton. A. From Moulton; that Is
the only time that recollect.
O. That is the only tmei Now. will you swear that
Mr. Franklin Woodruff not present at the converse
ton to which you aude when that very expression was
used3 A. Franklin Woodruff told me a
O. Wait one moment. win you swear that Franklin
Woodruff was not present at that conversation between
YOU and Moulton TO which you allude, when that
nrossion or substantially that A. don't think he
was ,,.
O Hear nv question: A. Well, Thave answered it.
O. You say you don't think lie vast A. don't thinA
he
@. Will you swear positively that he was not' A.