The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-19


with him mat the meeting should not take place,
Mr.. BeecheY said ne had sent for me beca use ne
meeting Of the Ssssons that nsns on the Monday
night; thai he was very anxious that the meeting
should not take place; that he was going away 90
Boston t6at morning and that he could not do
anything about 1t, and he wanted me to go around
to Mr.. Halliday's house and arrange with Mr.. Hal
uday that the meeting should be put on or not
take place; think that was about the substance;
the deac0ns OF the church sometimes mean the
examining examining committee; ! think there were nine
HAWKINS; think Mr. Hqlndayf was deacon er
seeing Mr.. Halliday l understood that there was
TO be no meeting or the deaconsj had another
Europe, on the 10Th OF May, 1873; It was about six
months after the interview with Mr.. Halliday;
have been an officer OF Plymouth church and am
Mr. Evarts then moved to strike ont all the evil
dence OF the witness In regard to the interview
with Mr.. Beeeher, quoting the case or Dudley VS..
Boes as authority.
The Judge denied the motion.
CRoss-BxAMNAToN OF BELL.
Bell, on the cross-examinatiOn OF Shearman,
who Is very fair lawyer and often let's In evidence
on the other side SO magnaEimously that 1t ap-
pears he scarcely means 1t, got In an answer
which made Pryor unclasp his lips, and with eyes
darling satisfaction, he laughed into Fullerton's
face, Beach and Morris joining, and Mr.. Beecher's
old. flushed worried look returned While they
her OF points in the way OF charity, uncovered
himself, and the witness and he fell to comparing
personal attitudes inside of Ply mouth church. This
was o very agreeable interude. The great doctor
in The law dropped the robes OF his secular profess
sion, and appeared as the plain, pious clerk OF
Plymouth. He asked Mr. Bell to remember all
about himself tShearman), ana seemed mucn wor-
rled at the perversity OF the others memory. Bell
was worrying man. He could not tell lie, and
appeared to have put in an unconscious claim Tor
Washington's little hatcnet next Monday.
He did accomplish this, however, and 1t was the
subject Of comment at the recess and through the
Court he showed that the jeer and traduction
OF the Plymouth congregation is based upon o
wholly false estimate OF the honor and
consciousness Of many Of these worthy
and reverend people. Mr. Bell preached,
unconsciously, a sermon for Plymouth church,
the large audience saw a man past the middle age
more than quarter OF century active in the
church society, clear In his faculties soft and class
meeting like In speech, pale In complexion as
from rne temperance Of o lifetime, and posting
every answer upon his personal conscience, re-
CARELESS OF the movement OF opinion around him.
Mr. Belps answers upon the subject or noticing
SANDER are good instances OF this sort Of Plymouth
Christians. He said, however, that although still
q member OF Plymouth, he bad somehow 'slid
there.
The witness stated:-At the time OF the deacors,
meeting no one thought that anybody III the
church was about to make an attack against
Sentiments Of the caurch II regard "'s to the
woodruff scandal my answer probably would be
given In the TACT that the rumor IN the deacons'
meeting which had come to mir. Beecner's ears
PROBABLY arose from conversation in the lecture
room on the Friday night previous, the persons
present at this time being Mr.. Hawkins, Cnair.
man of the Board OF DeacOns. Mr.. Snearman and
myself; Mr.. Snearman and myself thought That as
,, fortnight S Of nres weeks saS gone BY
Beecher to do so; Immediately on the publication
the sentiment OF the church was to tai no notice
members Of the church and congregation, after
the puDllcatlo lon OF the Woodruff n Claim scandal,
must be a lie and that Mr.. T1lton and MRS. Tilton
would certainly come out and contradict, ana 1t
was our duty 70 wait until they did so; and after
q fortnight or three weeks had passed ana they
didn't come out and contradict 1t, then think 1t
was the sentiment. and that many In the church
concurred IN it-yourselt, and certainly dld-tbat
1t was the duty OF the church and OF Mr.. Beecher
to take hold oil the matter; am clear In my recOl-
lections that the sen timent In the church changed
about the f1rst fortnight or three weeks against
silence TO action; and cannot clearly remember
In regard to Jour position, but remember dis
see how any action could be taken by
the church, excepting with the concurrent action
conversation that may have mad with you, Mr..
Sherman; recollect hity or sixty friends calling
on me on the evening you refer to; It is possible
ground that NJ. Beecher should have mourning to
90 with the matter; the conversation with Mr..
DeacOns, OF which ne was chairman, to take &C.
ton and think In that con versatlOn you agreed
with me that the deacons did net understand the
sentiment OF she cuurcn In regard to the matter,
and That by their delay and fear they were really
doing damage to Mr.. Beecner and to the church;
bring the matter into the Board Of Deacons, 80
that the deacons should take action and free
shadow Of thought that Mr.. Beecnsr was IS guilty
at that tme the special feeling IN tho cnurcl was
occasioned by the Woodruff publication; we ex-
pected Mr.. and Mrs. T1lt0n would come out and
deny 1t alter sufficient length Of time had gone
by Tor these denias then our feelings began to
change was considered the policy OF the church
@. DID you have an interview in which the sub.
ject OF Nj. Tlltons family was brought upa
Mr.. Fullerton-I object to that, sir.
Judge NeIlson-Has that been inquired into
Mr.. Fullerton-On, no, Sir.
MR.. BEECHRR AS AN ADVISER.
Mr.. Shcarman-May 1t please Your Honor wo
offer this evidence IN this point OF view. great
deal Of evidence has been put In on the other side
to snow that Mr.. Beecher nad--I was going to saw
that O great deal oil evidence had been put in 10
show that Mr. Beecner mad q kind or candestine
relation with Mrs. ultOn; but in reality can only
put III, hardly enough to rebut. But still some
thing OF that Kind has been put in. We have also
asEed~Mr. Tiison and Mr. Houlson@whetner teeY
knew anything about Mr.. Beecher's advising q
separation, OF whether mir. Beecher ever acknOwl-
edged ne mad ADVISED separation. between Mr..
ana Mrs. TlltOn. Now, propose by this witness
to show, II can. that IN December, 1870, at the
prosecution, Mr.. Beeohsr had been maintaining
guilty relations with this lady six months-ac-
oording to the testimony OF Mr.. Moulton-after
relations. at the very time that MRS. Triton was
absentlng herself from her husbands home; we
advise upon that question OF separation between
husband and vile. NOW, one Of the very first