New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-05-04
CROSS-EXAMINATION OF ALBERT BERG
HAUS.
Mr.. Evarts-I will cross-examine aboutit

Mr.. Evarts-Mr. Berghaus this paper is
dated January, 1872. When did 1t pass through the
pressi when was that picture printed Handing the
paper to witness A This picture was printed the week
following the event.
O. Following the 18th day Of Decemberf A. The 10TH
@. The I6hf
Mr.. MOrris-The 18th.
Mr. Evarts-The l7thi
The Wtness-Was il the 17th'
Mr.. Evarts-So say-we two.
The Witness-Yes, Sir
O. What day OF the week was the l7thi A. On s'sun-
day
O. oh. ves. 7 remember now Now during the follow
ing week that picture printed, was i'll A. IL was
drawn and engraved but whether twas published IN That
same week am incapable OF saying; whether 1t was
published the week after, that could not say
O. Well besides being drawn and engraved when was
IT, as distinct from pubishingf A. As far az oeIeVe'
published the facilities OF the estapiSh-
ment afforded. after the event.
O. Well that is interesting information to me; l don't
know anything about that DO you know anything about
III A. know that a certain time If required before
paper in order engraveO draw engrsve and set The
type-a certain time required for the issuing OF num-
Der Of these papers
O. I dare say. Now what s that certain tmei A.
That certain time varies it may require according to
circumstances many days and perhaps hess or more
@ Well that s your definition OF ga certain time =
A There is certainly certain time required
O. Well, what is that certain time that IS requred'
Mr. Morris-It is an uncertain time
The Witness-Mr Eyarts that s.not within my apihty
to tell you exactly
O. Very well Then by certain time" you mean that
some time necessarily be taken IN the preparation
OF such picture as for the press That Is about III
A Exactly Sir.
O Now as matter Of fact do you know ANYTHING as to
how long was before that ture of this procession was
in condition be put on the printing press A could
not say, Sir.
O Now what share did you have in the production Of
hat pcturei A. made sketches on paper on the SUM-
day on which the procession took place; then from my
own sketches made drawing on wood
q. As an engraver, yoursefi A. No, Sir; as what IL
commonly called artist woOd-draughtsman on wood
O. Draughtsman on wood for the OF the engraveri
A. For the OF the engraver
O And from that the engraver made the engraVingi
A. The engraver engraved my drawing
O. Did YOUR drawing IA you thus prepared II for the
engravers burin-id It contain that whole PROCESSION
AS il now lookst A. Yes, Sir.
@ When did you compose that processioni = did
not compose the procession
O. Who did, A. That don't know.
@. mean this picture A. All This picture COM
posed on Monday.
O. You composed that on Monday. Now when you
began 10 compose that Monday what had You already
in the shape OF pctrei A. Nothing, save my sketches
Q. What were they A. They were sketches made on
paper
O. Well. know; hut what were they sketches OFT A.
OF different features Of this procession
O. Which features A. Those features that have rep
resented in this picture such the band OF solders-a
company OF soldiers: ladies. women representatives OF
different natonaites band OF drummers, cataialque
on wheels drawn by six horses and crowd OF different
people following that. etc.
Q. How many pieces OF paper was all that ont A.
could not tell you
O. About how manyf A. DO not recollect whether
ha sketch-book-a bound sketch-book-wlth me, or fly
ing leaves.
O. Well how many pages OF sketch-book and how
many flying leaves-take 1t either way-was all this on
A. / could not tell you.
0 How long were you in making all those pictures
that YOU had in your before you composed this
engraving Of the procession A. You mean those
sketchest
@ Yes; how long in actually making those pictures
A. believe 1t took me about hour an hour aud
half TO collect the material FOR this picture.
O. You mean on the spOti A. On the spot
O Now after you had done that, the spot how long
did you make the sketches and reduce them to
the shape in which you used them for the composition OF
this entire pictures
Mr. Beach-He made the sketches, understand on the
spoti
Mr. Evarts-Yes, certainly. A. II understand you
rightly Mr. Evarts the question s, how long took me
to make the drawing on wood
and a half the spot A. think so.
O. Making certain sketches. Now how long-how much
work did you those sketches before you commenced
the actual composition Of this entire pcturef A. Moth
ing further what took there on the spot IN the
street.
O. Very well Now, where did you stand that hour and
half A. 1 stood in different positions, in different
streets.
O Could you draw while you were moving from place
10 placei A. Well these aketches made when was
walking from street another looking at the dner
ent portions Of the intended procession they were IN
Seventh and Eghthsts. and, am not mistaken. IN
Fourthst The principal portions Of what sketched
found in seyenthst in front of the ArmOry Of the La
fayette Guards.
O. Now where are those original sketches A. have
been trying find them but have not been successful
O. Well, don't you-did yOu preserve a. habit the
sketches Z A. That would accumulate al immense
amount
z you cannot give Us your original drafts leoud
not
O. No part OF that was furnished TO you by photo
graphi A. Not single portion.
O. How much wac there Of detail or finish in your
sketches-auything but hints for you when you
came to the principal work A. No, Sir
q. Nothing but mere hints A No, sir; positive
drawings.
O. Well. 1 asked you A. CContnuingJ SO as TO enable
me to be correct in outline and in color
O. Well how much OF detail finish there on these
sketches A. Sufficient for to produce the picture ~
il is represented here.
O. Was than hints TO you, and the grouping ana
arrangement OF the procession made by yourself after
ward you composed this picture A. Ii WAS what
/ would call pro mensOrid sketches
q Well. that is what call hints A. would not call
it a hint.
O. What would you call 1t. in common English A.
would call II the outline Of future drawing
@ To liz in your memory to have you composei A. 1t
would be utterly impossible to compose picture Of
PROCESSION on lying leaves