New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-12

U. Wei VIII from that topic 10
the consequent conversation three weeks after
| wards.
Mr. Mors-To the defendants COUNSEL Gentlemen, wish
you would talk quite loud back there i! quite annoy
| ng II is not quite the thing
THE SECOND CALL AT MRS. wOODHULL'S.
| Mr.. Blackstone few weeks afterwards, upon
Sunday evening you called upon Mrs Woodruff and met Mr.
! Tlton therer A. Yes Sir.
q Now what that conversation, A. am unable TO give
anything than the fragmen. which gave this morning.
did not have much conversation, for my visit very
| short one.
@ Well don't recoect that scattered fragment in the
| morning suppose you repeat it, A. will repeatit.
@ Well' A. Shall state the circumstances under which it
was introduced, go right to the subject itself'
Q. ask you for the conversation; don't know A.
Well Mrs Woodruff first adyerted to Mr. Beecher connection
with herewith the impending revolution, and she said that
she was going to give lecture in soonwhether she
gave the galley proof then and there Of it. sent 1t TO
| subsequently, do not remember.
Q. was asking for conversation, A. Well coming
| lott
@ wish you would get at it little more directly A. She
said that Mr. Beecacr going to preside at the meeting and
told her did not beeveI doubted whether Mr.. Beecher
would and preside at the meeting where lecture in favor
OF the principles OF social freedom be delivered and she
| said yes, he woud.
Q Proceed Sir. A. She said that Mr. Tton had spoken
with him about it, and that Mr.. Ton would bring 1t about
The only thing that Mr. Ton said that recall ia this in
ply to my doubts that Mr. Beecher probably would not make
speech endorsing Free Love- but he would make few in
roducory remarks and endorse this question legitimate
question for public discussion and endorse her far
ccrned the exercise by her Of the right OF free speech that
| question; that the way Mr. Tilton limited it.
@ Well have you given it all? A. 1 don't remember any
thing mooob, said by him Mrs Woodruff said that il Mr.
Beechcr did not out don't to that she said
that he did introduce her at the lecture but that he
did not the side Of the great revolution that
|
hmse-ho could not sustain himself without doing he
known believer in these principles, privately
pressing his adoption Of them practising upon them and he
the Of his opinions or he mus-she did not
that expression that know Of but he must either
and Identify himself with hem with the friends Of the
cause, OF he could not maintain himself
O. Now Mr. Cowey when did you first repeat these CONVEX
satons their A. Very shortly after their
had talk with Mr. Cummings who introduced me
to Mrs Woodruff and gave him the general substances did
undertake TO give detailed narrative, but he was the
first
O. And whom was that, A. That very shortly after
wards; think 1t within week afterwards
@ Whom next did you communicate 1t TOT A. 1 don't
remember that spoke toany else for sometime afterwards
remember being with Mr. Sumner afternoon, and he
made susion to it, and mentioned that had heard
this story
O. Well, never mind what said; wanted to know to
whom you mentioned the fact Of this conversations A. Mr.
Sumner.
Mr. Evarts-You Charles Summer A. Mr. Charles
Sumner-Senator Sumner.
Mr. Boach-Did you detail to him the subject Of this
versatons A. No. only gave him general idea of it, and he
said
O. Never mind don't ask you what he said next who
elseg A. don't remember any One-yes Charles Levi
Woodbury.; he with mo in the Siren case remember
mentioning it to him.
O. Whoi A. Charles Leon Woodbury..
O. When was A. That the time went to Wash
ington; it within three days. that within two
or three days think OF the second interview.
O. WE'LL did You detail to him, A. No. not all the part ic-
uars but generally the fact.
@ Simply the general fact-well who else' A. Mr..
Redpath.
O. When that, A. That was long time afterwards
don't remember that spoke OF it to Mr. Redpath sn about
the time of some congregational council or church court
O. Heref A. Yes Sir hero IN New York, where the mat
ter WAS talked about in the newspapers
Well did you rehearse him the details Of the
ton A. Not details no. Sir; not at that time In the
car.-yhe the Ecclesiastical trial. while the Ecclesiastical
Court was sng-the Ecclesiastical Committee.
O. Do you mean the Church Committee A. The Church
Committee this last Summer, July August; it may have
been September any rate while the papers full OF
paragraphs about doings Of the Church Committee Gen.
Butler and Mr. Redpah going to Lowell together and
mentioned it to Mr. Redpath.
O. Who Mr. Redpathi A. He is journalist and lyceum
he Is manager Of lyceum bureau.
O Where does I've reside A. Resides In Maiden and has
committee. Lthink.
O. Did you repeat to him the conversation portion OF
1t only.
O. A portion Of it' A. Only the general outine ofh
o Only the general outline OF 1t A Only the general
fact
O Well want tn get al time, Sir II there Is any
od when YOU undertook relate any tho particulars
q, INF. conversation ri A. Where related the parcularss
q yesy A. Let us see; must reflect upon that
Da Sir A. have mentioned it since ths Investigations
generally, to quite a number OF people
O was not asking you about general mention A. Yes
Sir: don't remember that gave any detailed
nor, of that don't think did until July
laa.
o. Well, 10 whom did you then communicate ~ A. then
gave 1t to two gentlemen by Hunt Brothers, pub
sherso The LOH Tunes paper have interest n
and article that time the subject which they
published and there related-I think that is the rst time
ever gave a deaed-eyer undertook to give full detailed
report OF the conversation.
Well in that article did you undertake to give the details
Of the conversation, A. No. gave the incidents
@ Merely Incidents, A. Yes; will send you copy,
OF the article, II you would Ike II.
Mr. Beach-Oh WELL have parculae curiosity about IT.
though would DO very much indebted to you for courtesy Of
| that kind
The Witness-I will sand 1t to you really cou not tell
what particulars did put In put in some, and made an
article long newspaper would aud
then dropped the matter.
HOW Mr. COwI.EY BECAME A WITNESS.
Q. How did you first come to know that you
would be wanted witness In this case, A. Well IN this
way my law partner in Lowell, David o. Allen, sa nephew
Oliver Johnson Last summer when the statement OF Mr.
Tton and later, when the Of Mr.. NQulton