New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-15

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should be recommendation to Mr. Beechcr to make such
q statement.
O. This was read to you the 18th Of July 1874 that
has already been proved. Now, MT Beecher when that
paper was read you how long had the Bacon letter
been publishedi A. do not know that that paper was
read TO mt, Sir.
O. Well what is your best Judgment upon the subjectt
A. A paper was read to me-
O. did not ask you that. A. But whether 1t was that
paper, the whole Of that paper. cannot state
Q. What Is your best Judgment upon the SUBJECT A.
My best Judgment Is that that paper was completed
probably after substance Of read to me- but /
that is only superstition.
O. Well did not ask you indulge in suppositions-
now. pardon A. You asked my best opinion-juds
ment
to you. A. Parts Of that paper recolect but cannot
affirm that 1t all read to me.
O. Can you affirm that 1t not all read to your A.
cannot affirm that it not all read.
Q What is your best Judgment whether that II the
paper that read to you the 18th OF July 1874 A.
do not recall good deal Of IL.
@. What IL your best udgmenti A. My best Judgment
is that part Of that paper read to possibly the
WHOLE but do not recall the whole.
O. Well. when that paper, whatever paper It was,
read you long had the Bacon letter been pub
lshedi A. do not now remember, Sir.
u.
Bacon letteri A. No, Sir; don't recall it,
Q. Well, 1t was long prior to this, wasn't III A Well,
that could not say.
O. Well, 1t prior To statements before the Com
mittee wasn't 1T A. Yes, Sir OF it prior to
that but cannot give dates without refreshing my
memory.
Mr. shearman-I was June 81.
O. You read the Bacon letter, didn't youi A. did not.
O. Anybody read 1t to youi A. heard statement Of
its contents.
O. You knew that quoted part OF this letter Of jan
uary l, did you mott A. was told that it did
O. We're you told the form In which 1t was copedf A.
was told that there was an from that memoran-
DUN OF Mr. Moultons in IL.
O. Who told you Of III A have forgotten whether IL
was Mr. Cleveland or Mr. Shearman or who 1t was;
was in conference with several gentlemen, and don't
recall which one informed me-
O. Did YOU have statement OF its contents Of the Ba-
con letter in wrngi A. The drift substance OF it.
O. Who made out that statements
Mr. Evarts-In writingi
The Wtness-I didn't have il in writing.
Mr. Fullerton-Oh | thought you did. Well, did you
LEARN in what form this letter OF January was quoted
in the Bacon letter A. Only that there was portion
of IT,
O. Yes did you learn the form of the portion A. Not
by reading 1t. Sir.
Q. Did you learn the form Of the portion OF it A
did not, Sir
q Very well Won knew what reference was made did
Won not In this first statement Of Mr. Mouton in this
preston
hold tonight, as 1 have held hitherto the opinion
mitted an oa.nse against Mr. Tilton for which it
necessary TO apologize for which he ala apologize IN the
language OF the letter part OK which mas been quoted
A. don't recOect to have heard that sentence, sir
O. Don't recollect whether it read to you or not
A. don't recollect it, Sir.
O. Now, Mr.. Beecher, when did you first hear or THIS
letter OF January l, 1871 A. This memorandum
Q. Yes A. hrst-you mean after it left
Q. Your hands A. 1t never left my hands
O. Never left OH Well, it is not worth while to play
upon words. A. | know, but you cornered me so many
times that was afraid OF you. daughter
O. No, you amt afraid-when 1t left yOur house A.
After that time do not recall seeing it until 1874;
never Jaw tho original document again until saw 1t IN
this room.
O. Well upon this subject Of its having left your hands
Did you never have it in your hands A | don't think
that did Sir had my hands it, II you will not think
| am tritiing.
O. Well YOU A. signed il, OF course. and had to
touch it, but other than that don't think that
O What did you do with it when you signed it A Let
it alone.
O. Did not hand it to Mr.. Moultoni A. No.
O. Well, then, your hands left IN A MY hahds ieit Z"
yes. Sir
n Uben did Won next see IL after your hands left it
A Tn the courtroom when it presented in evidence
O. When did you next hear OF i'll A. thnK IL was III
December Of 1872
O. And from whom did you hear OF it : A From Mr.
Tracy.
O. Mr.. B. F. Tracyl A. Yes, Sir.
O. Had he then seen it, as you understoodt A. can
not say.
O. Did he give you what purported to be its contents
A. No; he did not recite its contents
And no part of its contentsi A. NO. he did not re-
cite any part OF it.
O Did he recite the substance Of i'll A He did not
O. Very well pass from that then to the next occasion
Won heard Of it any other person A. Well then
i am confused about that don't know that could
tell you accurately after that when next heard OF H.
O. Well a. near you can tell. A. heard II rumored
mot there WAS paper in existence that very danag
ing to me.
@. But you did not learn its contensi A NO