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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-07
ADVICE TO MRS. TILTON N 1871.

The next offer Of Mr. Evarts was of singular
character and led to long argument of an hours
duration outlined above and given in full in the
verbatim report of the proceedings. 1t was propo-
slton to give the incidents and conversation at
interview in the Fall of ISL between Mr.. Beecher
and Mrs. TiltOn at the house Of the latter. Ohiec
ton was made of course, but not until Mr. Evarrs
had brought ont the fact that Mr. Beecher had gone
thither az the request of Mrs. Tilton on pastoral
visit of advice Mr. Fullerton sprang to bis feet de-
clared this TO be interview, before unheard of
by the plaintiff and beyond his power to dispute.
Mr. Evarts again proposed to give the whole scene
in its innocence and soemnity.' Judge Nelson
ruled out the conversation and permitted the facts
of the interview only to be given. During the argu-
ment Mr. Beecher had turned to the clerks desk at
his left elbow, and taking up the Bible on which
witnesses are sworn had opened, read and with his
pencil marked passage IN the volume. Finally,
when the decision was made, and Mr. Evarts had
asked him what occurred between him and Mr.. TIL
ton. Mr. Beecher answered with great deliberation
still holding the open Bible in his hand, 81 went
into the parlor; sat down listened; marked
passage in the Bible ! got up; bowed, and went
home.p There was an immediate attempt on the
part of Mr.. Evarts to have the passage read; but
Mr. Beach protested against ANY scenic effects"
and after general dispute the Judge ruled out the
passage, recommending MT EVarts 10 use III IN DIS
summing up. The curiosity of the counsel over
mastered them. and the book was passed around,
and finally handed TO a TRIBUNE reporter. who dis
covered that the marked passage 18th chapter, |.
Corinthians verses iv TO viii. read as follows:
a. Charity sufereth long. and Is kind charity
enyieth not charity vsunieth not itself IL not pulled
16J Doth not behave itself ut,semy, seckeih not her
own il not easily provoked, tninketh no evil
(o Rfjoiceth not In iniquty, but re)oiceth In the
truth
thngs enduretb all things;
ts5 Charity never fsileth.
lone Of the most beautiful in the Bible" was the
audible but low comment of Mr. Beach rs he had
looked at the verses And one who had incidentally
he.rd n NO. rrniudod of n sayinG uf Mn Bcecher.
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eoquence OF my friend Mr.. Beach, and the wit OF my
friend Mr. Fullerton hut all the papers have 10 my friend
Mr.. Ton. should not venture 10 aliule In 40 fanr
manner to the opposing party IN this suit
Mr. Fuilerton-well, divide the honor with Mr.
Titon.
Judge Nelson-The only thing observe In reference
to your remark, which very appropriate and very
happily expressed, want OF regret AMI disapproOa-
ton md at the moment thought OF asking yon to con
tinue your observations with that view.
Mr.. Evarts-Unal had reached that point.
Judge NesOn-Yes; but ASSUME there was regret ana
sense Of disapprobdtion.
Mr. Evarts-I did not intend favor the matter In the
least, bu: simply put that thought all through tho
trial that 10 has been done In IN instantaneous MANNER
and not persevering or a continuing one.
Judge Misunderstanding In the nature OF spontaneous
combustion.
Mr.. Fullertou--Gt too instantaneous after your
Honor's admOnition.
Judge Neilson-Ycs.
Mr.. EvartsAnd OF wish to add any authority
influence that may have In securing entire Immunity
during progress trial from any such manesta-
tons one side or the other
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opportunities to edge IN their objections. Mr. Beach
ment and seeking every fair opportunity for inter
ruption, but they are too wise to interpose
objections on insufficient grounds and thus force
a ruling against themselves. Except in few in-
stances where the impulse the Indignation of the
witness has led him TO resort to expressions which
the rules of evidence do not sanction, their Obec-
tions have been overYled. They made their most
serious and formidable opposition yesterday to the
admission of Mr. Beecher's testimony respecting an
interview with Mrs. Tilton. and in this attempt
after hours debate they were practically unsuc-
cessful. Mr.. Evarts had adroItly led up TO the
subject that he had already begun the examination
before the objection was made, and he closed the
argument by introducing the act which took place
at that interview and the declaration that 1T was
manner disclosed at every turn of this long argu-
Inent was still more effectively illustrated in the
course of the day. when under the form
of correcting the printed reports he pleas
antly complimented Mr.. Fullerton and in
obliged in a little fine irony at the expense of
Mr.. TltOn The reports of all the papers united in
saying that Mr.. Evarts in explaining the applause
which interrupted the proceedings on Monday. had
spoken of " the wit of my friend, Mr.. Titon.' Mr..
Evarts, to correct the record explained that he
meant the wit of his friend, Mr. Fullerton :" and
then he added, turning half round upon the plain
tiff, who was looking up smiling, that be was not
entitled to such familarities with the gentleman
on the other side of the case.
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JAMES IN COUPT


Judce NELSON'S warning on Monday that ladies
sbould not attend court next day utterly dsre-
rarded Indeed. it had the natural effect OF In
creasng their interest and swelling the number IN
attendance yesterday morning. Probably twenty
ladies were in the Plymouth delegation and the
group of spectators to the right of that body Sew
eral of them are ladies who have been in attendance
from the first but most OF the faces were new 70
the courtroom and the fact that the various actors
in the scandaldrama were strangers to them was
evinced by their frequently rising in their places to
get glimpses Of Mr.. Tilton. Mr.. MOulton, and the
various lawyers. The attendance of ladies has
gradually increased the trial has proceeded and
there does not appear in the language of the reports
60 be any good reason why they should not attend.
Thus far there has been used in the proceedings only
one word which The TRIBUNE has felt compelled to
expunge or for which to less vulgar substitute
Ii is a remarkable Characteristic of this trial that
the necessity so seldom arises for the use OF any
vulgar language. Ladies are not stared at IN
the courtroom, anticipated at first by the
court officers and feared by those compelled to at
tend early in the trial Ladies leaving theaters on
matinee days and churches on Sundays are exposed
t. more searching glances than when in court or
while leaving it, 1t is not improbable that larger
attendance of ladies would be more conducive to
good order at any rate the ladies do not form the
pnruly element of the audience.
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ARGUMENT OF Mr.. EvARTS.

Mr.. Evarts-l propose at least to offer to
show everything the shape OF intercourse between this
defendant and Mrs Tlton that within my Of
inputatiOn and Of exculpason, within
the issues OF this trial Now, your Honor Will remember
certain letters passing between Mr. Beecher and Mrs
Tilton during period subsequent this trouble raised,
and forming serious matter OF consideration, had
been given evidence, and something is said-somehing
was said considerable length, and with considerable
point opening Of learned friend, Judge Norris
the subject OF those letters and that subsequent
intercourse. We have concern with anything
that has been said outside VI the limits VI this
trial. course that subject and propose To show
every interview that took place between Mr. Beeeher and
this lady and to take up the subject Of every note
par that passed between them that within this
period which has been made the subject Of Inputaton
and Of evidence the part OF the plaintiff Aud may
say TO my learned friends that do not DESIRE have
any would lead 10 expect To introduce any
conversations Of wife that the nature Of recital
or hearsay concerning anything 1t Ia the interview that
took place prscRa, and tho matter then In hand
that propose to give; and the generality OF my ques
ton shal he Objectionable Of course can reduce IT.
Mr. Morris-Oh. no, that ID not Objectionable.
Mr. Evsrts-But 1t would seem TO ~ suppression Of
laGtttaes svidsasa. " WIN sHbsseHans AtssssHses
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THE PROCEEDLNGS-VERBATIM
STEINER MEASURES FOR ENFORCING
ORDER.

Owing to the hardness of plaintiffs counsel,
the days work was not begun until Ills o'clock.
Judge Neson-I wish 10 say to the people In the gal
lery that unless there be perfect order there to-day those
doors viii be closed tomorrow morning 1t has not been
TO have the gallery used, and in many trials
here civil and criminal where there might be excite
meni the galleries have not been opened and the OIL
keep order they will not be opened hereafter
wish say 10 people this floor that the officers
think there too many chairs here and too many peo-
pie seated and that better order could be observed IL
chairs removed and fewer persons let In and
that course viii be observed tomorrow morning. pro-
vded there s perfect order to-day The two officers
stationed the midst OF this court viii please observe
the faces Of the people and make an example OF any
who offend have sometimes thought the report
ght be little sedate; they are engaged In
very serious business, and they little more
sedate and attentive think their reports would read
better. Will you proceed, Mr.. Evartsi
Mr. Evarts-H your Honor please, in regard to the re-
port few observations made at the close Of yesterday
what had occasion say, came into the court with
intention Of correcting what supposed was an error
OF the report in making aserbe applause to Mr.
Tton when supposed had conferred 1t upon MI Full
erton. But upon seeing that all the papers have II
Mr. Tilton suppose the slip In my tongue and not
in the report
Judge Neson-I thought not Sir did not understand
you to say that
Mr. Evarts-y Thoughts ] very DISTINCTLY Aaad ~
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when Mr.. Beecher dies this ought to be written
over his grave: This man tbinketh no evil"
Mr.. Beecher, on leaving the witness chair at re-
cess, in CONVEX saton with a TRIBUNE reporter. ex
planned that at the time he referred To he had been
called second time to advise Mrs. Titon about her
family troubles. His first experience. IN Decemoer'
1870. and his existing relations with Mt. lliton III
that time, made him more cautious than on tue iof-
occasion. and after patiently listening 10 her
recital Of her tronbes he marked the passage above
given, prayed with Mrs. Tiltol, AID left he says
that since the trial began the Bible of Mrs lilton
has been hunted up by the lawyers and found
marked as indicated.
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GRORGE A. BELL ADVISES ABOUT MRS. TIL
TONS TROUBLES


Mr.. Evarts-Mr. Beecher, | passed over by
inadvertence an inquiry that intended to have put to
Won when we were considering the occasion when Mrs
Titon toward the middle OF December raised the qes-
ton about separation from her husband-that period
Did you connection with that resort OF Mrs Triton 10
YOU for advice besides introducing your wife into con-
suaton also refer any gentlemen Of the church or
amply TO any gentlemen OF the church in the natter
Mr. Beach-It seems to me, If your Honor please that
that question various propositions WHICH we
contend are not established by the proof.
Mr.. Evarts-Wel don't care for including any or
them suppose that the evidence have given, IN the
wltness's view OF II, at least, covers them.
Judge Neils0n--The inquiry, then. is whether
Mr.. Evats-It Is simply whether at that time you ana
Mrs. Beecher did In fact occasion presented see MIS-
Titon and Mrs. Morse at her house-whether, pend
ing that inquiry you did did not apply to any gentle
OF the church to take part IN the matterf A did
q. Who was It'll A. George A. Bell az - Si.
O. What position did he then hold in the church, A.
say what position he held In the church, ne had
been an official member in way and another almost
since could remember and then superintendent of
the Bethel neighbor and an intimate frlend anu
one Of my chief counselors
O. And did he take part in the matter in the conference
with youi A. I made a suggestion TO him that the
deaconesses-
Mr.. Backbone moment
Judge Neison-Your answer would seem to give the
conversation.
Mr.. Beach-very well; am instructed by my associate
70 withdraw that objection.
Judge Neilson-WeH
The witness-I made to him statement OF the facts
and made the inquiry what had better be done In regard
to Mrs Tlton; under circumstances, 1t seemed
70 me- that required near and counsel and thought
that 1t was case which the deaconesses OF the church.
perhaps would In the exercise Of their proper func
ton he dissuaded from it peremptorly and empha
icaly and said it was a case for silence.
O. And that was the end Of A. That was the end
O. OF that matteri A. do not use his words MI
Evarts when say silence do not mean that he said
that word but that it was a case for not meddng-s
lence and letting alone far they concerned
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AN IMPORTANT POINT GAINED.

Mr. Beecher's attention was first called to several
minor and disconnected matters which had been
previously overlooked. The object to fill up
little gaps in the evidence for the defense. The first
inquiry was relative to Mr.. Beechers action in De
cember, 1870, when called in by Mrs. Tilton and
Mrs. Morse to give advice to the formers separa-
ton from her husband 1t will be remembered that
after some hesitation and consultation with his
wife. Mr.. Beecher finally suggested to Mrs. Tilton
in writing that she should separate from her hus-
band, and not procure divorce. Some OBJ
lection was made to further inquiry on the sub
ject Yesterday. bat finally it was brought out
that Mr. Beecher had consulted with George A. Bell
on the subject. Mr.. Bell, who was at that time SUI
perintendent of Plymouth Bethel advised him that
il was not a case for meddling" Mr. Bell was wit
ness for Mr.. Tilton. and his cross-examnaton an
attempt was made to elicit the conversation be-
tween him and Mr. Beecher on this subject (TRIB-
UNE's report as published i'll pamphlet form, vol /,
PIP. 7O07O4. A long argument followed and the
Judge finally ruled out the conversation. When
asked if any conversation was had MIR. Bell 8
answer was again ruled out. Only the subject mat
ter was admitted yesterday. after the counsel for
the plaintiff had withdrawn their objection.
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THE FIRST HINT THAT Mr. TILTON NEEDED
MONEY

Q. Mr.. Beecher, how early after these first
weeks OF the year 1871 did any questions arise between
Mr. Moulton and yourself in regard TO the use the
pication Of money IN connection with Mr. Tiltons az
fairs A. Do you ask how early his first suggestions
we're, or the nrst suggestions after given timei
O. Well, say after these early weeks in January that
we were speaking Of fit during those early weeks
in January 1871 A. Among earliest counsellings
was how standing ground should be gatheredgot for
Mr. Tton for bis household that he could be at ease
and 20 with his work that his household should be
In an assured position. remember in conversation his
saying quite early within the first two or three
weeks that there mortgage upon Mr. Tiltons house
that thought that that ought TO be removed and that
he thought could then persuade Mr. Tkon 70 transfer
that property his wife, make it to her, and
said whenever any movement Of that kind was made,
should wish be counted in that should do my share
q Did he mention TO you the amount OF the mort
gngef A. understood 10 TO he about ~ 900, Sir.
@ Did anything further become Of that subject or
versston-that particular point or item' A. He never
that recall mentioned II to again, but did to him
once or twice. but can't tell how long spaces after; 1t
was In later period that IT, asked him II anything
had been DONE anything was going to be done.
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COURTROOM PICTURES.

The description in the last issue of THE TRIBUNE
will apply without material alteration to the scene
presented yesterday in court. The grouping was
the same without change in any sense. Mr.. Beecher
presented the same serene, patient aspect on the
stand To his nosegay of wild violets he had added
q tea rosebud The twin plaintiffs" as one OF MI
B.echer's admirers has loosely designated biz.
1ilt0n and Mr.. Moulton on the ground that the
cause of one is the cause Of the other. sat SIDE by
side in their accustomed places between their
attorney. Mr.. Morris, and the cross-examllIng
counsel Mir Fullerton. Mrs Beecher was surrounded
by her children and friends. Mrs. Field. with
Mrs. Putnam and her sister occupied the seats re-
served for them when formerly they accompanied
Mrs Tilton TO court. The latter has not been in
court since Mr. Beecher took the stand-a fact
which of course occasions many invidious and not
few sneering remarks from those who believe that
Nr Deecher is guiity) The Judges bench was
filed Yesterday, as it had been on the day before
with distinguished cOunselOrs and judges. Among
his HonOr's guests were ex-Judge Barbour OF the
New-York Supreme Court, Judge Hartley Williams
of Worcester Mass, and the Rev. Hugh Smith Car
penter of san Francisco, Speaker j. g. Blaine OF the
House Of Representatives, the Hon. Alexander
Mitchell of Milwaukee, Mr.. Griswold Of New-York.
Gen. slocu1n, Abraham Payne Of r. l., and
Gen. Hagner L. s. A. The number of specta-
tors present was Iu4Iy dS S4tdb dS Ou any o"N
since the regulation requiring that all should be
seated went into force. Possibly it ought to be
mentioned that Edward Beecher forced from
his accustomed place in the " Plymouth Jury" TO
camp-stoOl behind the jury box.
There was a delay of nearly half an hour IN the
resumption of the testimony, caused in part by the
delay of the Plaintiffs counsel, and further by
long consultation relative to the taking Of Mr..
Cevelands statement.
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Mr.. MoULToNs FIRST MONEY DEMANDS.

Mr.. MOULTONS FIRST MONEY DEMANDS.
Inquiry was next directed to the occasion of Mr.
Moulton's first suggestions 10 Mr.. Beecher that he
should lend aid in money TO Mr. Tilton. Mr. Beecher
replied that it was among the first suggestions made
by Mr. Moulton after the storm Of January, 1871,
had passed-withn that month, in fact. Mr..
Moulton told HIM that there was a mortgage OF
$1,000 on Nj TiltOns house and that it ought to be
paid. Mr.. Moulton knew of the existence OF this
mortgage, according to the defense. from the fact
that his business firm held il. Mr. Beecher said that
in answer 10 this suggestion he had offered TO 90 his
share whenever any movement was made to raise
the amount. When this fact was developed by the
witness Mr.. Tilton turned to Mr.. MoultOn with
look of surprise and whispered few sentences IN
his ear. to which Mr. MOulton responded with nod
of his head. as if in acquiesence.
Mr.. Moulton's next demand for money was made
in the Summer of 1871 for the amount of Miss Bessie
Turner's school bills. He represented that he was
paving out large sums of money for Mr.. Hilton. and
that he thought Mr.. Beecher ought to help. With
out any formality OF arrangement 10 paying other
bills Mr. Beecher paid the sum asked for, and when
other bills were sent 10 him paid them without
question or account Of the expenditures. The only
positive "Beecherism' of the day was uttered at
this point when the witness declared that he did
not think he had ever kept account or a
memorandum Of any money on the earth" 1t is
curious fact worth narrating even at this late day.
that when the Investigating Committee of 1874
began its inquiries II discovered these expenditures
bv accident and had to remind Mr. Beeoher of the
facts The accounts were obtained during the
present trial from Mr.. Moulton's books.
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A NEW INTERVIEW OFFERED.

O. Mr.. Beecher, you mentioned In the course
OF the testimony yesterday that you had had one other
interview at Mr. Tiltons house with Mrs Tilton, and
that it was alone with her. You remember that A
do.
O. And supposed it near as you could recall IT,,
in the latter part OF the year 1871 perhaps think you
80 statedf A. That is my superstition.
O. Now. Sir how did that interview arise A. can
not say Sir from any knowledge, but only have an i'm
preston that was sent for
O. by whoml A. continuing from the nature Of the
interview by Mrs. Tilton.
O. Sent for by Mrs. Tton, and went there and found
heri A. Yes, Sir; she was there alone.
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came up between ycu and Mr. Monitor In regard 70 any
bills OF any payments on account Of Miss Bessie Turner'S
educationi A. do remember the frst one
@ Well, about when wa. that how in reference to
any bill presently A. Ny impression u ths' "
was some time IN The Summer ~ 1877 VIII not ne nj
oil rtan about that could rofresh my memory prob
ably. He said 10 day that he paying great
deal OF money for Ir Triton, AMI that here was
hill that he thought II would be- well n would pay he
thought 1t would be a great help To Mr.. Tlon-asss-
10 him. something to that effect There wn- no
fDrralty aud arrangement about To- he pres n"d u
| b. me- and said: Certainly, will DO that or any
Other thing that Won think win help the family you let
me know and should I've glad 10 do it,"
O. Was there then present br and was 10 connect
| ed A. 1t was in connection with D.
@. A bill that he had in his handsf A. don't remem-
Der about that Sir IL in connection with asome
statement or account which-there definite sum-
remember. aud whether saw the account or not-i
know did not see the account but whether saw The
papers don't know.
O. Now before this Introduction Of the matter to you
in this form Of contribution by YOU had You known or
heard anything about Bessie Turner'S ariangementsf A.
Nothing whatever; should, perhaps, say that there
was-tha Mrs Morse had made auson 10 H. either
orally or nv letter: think IN her letter OF her be-
ing absent but did not know where she gone, nor
whether IL was mere visit, for good or for long, and
knew In detail nothing about her being away to school
until this up.
O. Had you taken any part In providing or arranging
for her departure location, wherever she wasi A.
None whatever.
@. Now, in regard TO any payments in the future on
this account Of Miss Turner TO be applied In this way
how did the matter on you recall 1T A. There was
no Arrangement made about IT, from time TO time at in
eryas Mr. Moulton would say, "Send me- or, 81 wish
you would give me much - sometimes he wrote IT,
and sometimes he said 1T and when it was IN dry se
son-thit IL, when not lecturingI did not always
give it promptly sometimes paid two sums together
when it was in the Winter and was eeturng at
ALL most always sent him check, or something OF that
kind Immediately; made inquiries about IL, and
did not know anything about It, except that understood
that would be relief " Mr. Ton not " be Obliged
| to make this provision.
O. Now. did you receive or have rendered to You any
of these expenditures A. don't reeoleot any,
| Sir.
Q. Did You keep any account or memorandum OF them
az aggregate or otherwisei A. don't think ever
kept an account or memorandum OF any money on the
earth that ever had certainly did not make an ex-
ception in this case.