New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-02-19
THE CONVERSATION DETAILED.


A. The interview began, so far as | was con-
eerned by Ton urging continue In the parlor into
which had introduced by the servant girl che suppose
knowing that Mr. Halliday had en- engaged Mr. Halliday
Joined the request Of M Tton that should remain &C.
murred but bothMr Ton appeared TO be anxlo "a
and Mr. Halliday willing shoald rsmain-I dld reIalA
Mr. Tlton commenced then, after seated by sitting
his reasons for calling on Mr. Halliday Shall give theml
O. Yes Sir said he had called there at the request OF
Mr. MOuoR who had told him that Mr. Beecher had been TO
him the previous night after service informing him that
there TO be action taken by the dcacons OF
the church By the Examining Committee; that Mr.
Beecher had suggested to Mr.. Mouon than he should
see Mr. Tion and tell him down and Mr. Halliday,
make explanation to him which would make it unne
cessary for the deasons their meeting He then
long history Of the scandal prior TO the woodruff and
Clan publication, which had then taken place but about
fortnight weeks four eommenc with the
affairs publisher Of The bdnde and what the pub
sad that these mstfers lac
gave the scte confidence not to be mentioned BY
10 any one had done that think be paused and SAID
him Mr. Ton that is all there is Of this matter your
duty TO your wife Mr. Beechcr who Is pastor to the
church. and your duty yourself all demand that you should
come out and make denial Of this scandal" lie said in
answer TO he could do said very poiney and
emphaticany That absurd" OF not repeating
the words am merely giving my memory of very long
conversation said hsm, That is absurd. Who is suffer
ing by this thng Mr. Beecher your own wife, yourself all
whatever that should prevent your coming out and
denying this thing" Then made remarks about the
gentleman who had told him these stories against M Beecher
Mr.. Eyars-The publisher OF The LadspeRiefr
The wness-Yes Sir then insisted further that he shoud
make denial He said, "Mr Bell cannot make that denial
said why hoti" Because he said, there is something
in this thing which prevents me said What is III" Al this
point Of the think remember that took almost the
control OF the lie then narrated circumstances
impression opinions Of his in regard Mr. Beecher conduct
towards Mrs TLtOn and when he throayh with that
said why thenevcn now caDnOt why you should
and contradict this matter He said Il cannot
do 1t would behee underlying truth in this story
told by these women which would make worse for Mr.
Beecher out and contradict it, than II it
let aone II would be- though were to - New York
and say before Mr. Hadays house there il tree covered
with thousand nags OF al nations Tha would be false
statement and yet there treehere il grain OF truth
there is an underlying truth in tins which prevents
my coming and contra iict.ng IT," 1t In that
neciion the figure Of the used Then think re-
member saying him What proof therc We have this thing
merely upon your word You expect TO believe such
story this without proof" lie said: The proof exists in
writing above the signature Of Mr Boecber" We'll" said
"let the writing" bringing down my hand empbatcay
think he said -" cannot do Is not in possession;
have objection that you noad it, Then he informed
that Mr. Nc ton possessed the writing, and tha we would
No then said WIN Mr. AoutOn LEI US see the writ
ing" because felt II could that, It would either
pode the whole story put in position 10 take nte
gent action about IL He said. ~ have idea" Oh he
said II have objection to your going in your official ca
pacity Mr. Moullon and that he should show you the
paper" well" said " not officer Of the Church;
cannot 60 in my official capacity; but l am member
Of the Church, and a. such demand that shall
the paper" He said 81 viii object 10 Mr.
Moulton showing you paper unless you officer Of
the Church ard 90 him in your Official capacity Said be
"Mr Halliday go he Is assistant minister said: ~
will object Mr. Halliday going in his saeia capacity TO see
the paper; Mr. Halliday member OF the Church as
would together members Of the Chuch TO see IT, bat
would object Mr. Halliday going as assistant pastor. be-
in that way would be as were would commit the
Church as II to his action.
Mr. Eyars-You giving rs what you said
Mr. Beach-The substance Of It.
The witness-what Mr. Tion said TO and what replied
the substance cannot repeat the words be-
cause II Is two and half years ago.
Nj Fullerton-Piease 20 with the narration. A. was
hestaing thinking
O. Take your time A. Well Cir; think have given you
m OF the long conversation; it was very long and
went and the matter quite feqsently. The
par-I think for the last two hours Of the nterewt
consisted In my driving Mr. Ton TO let rs the in
some way other.
O. Well Sir you reeooIlcct anything else tha, occurred
there you may state the substance Of H. A. Mr. Titon
length into hs conduct toward. Mr. woodruff in regard 70
the time previous the publication Of the statement.
O. Well did he say the rIoiect' A. ! think the
bulk OF show tDit Nnpc That
me-shorer loa-,r-the time he knew hera. in regard
to reprcssug her In regard - the publication Of the scandal
@. As she ha1 threatened 70 doi A. clnaSi remember
that.
q w-n 20 yor remember rejection. anything else that
which y1a have not siaed have
you gwen the substance u the whole thing A think
have given you the substance Of the whole coneraoh; may
have omitted something
O Were you present any line when the Church In rs
Official capacity took aefon with reference 20 NJ .c8nda,
A. cannot remember distinctly hat / Aa,e an nds-
tinci Dmesabrance, bal not efficient % be
Mr. BEECHER ANXIOUS To PUT OFF THE
DEACON5' MEETING.
Q. Do you remember being present at any time