The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-10

guess-a bolt m the republican party had been
mace on MS account: certain SECTION III ING
party wanted 20 repudate him: 1t wa. the most
respectable part of the community: Mr.. Bowen
came down rom Connectcut and wanted me 70
support nm 4; declned 10 90 1t: he pressed The
matter. and saia, IL am the editor OF ms paper
by contract. and It's masrer:" ne said there was
one way IN which he could become us master,
and said sony one. so long as am the editor oy
contract snail not support the man" it was
fifteen years; he said there was only one way, and
that by changing the editor the paper, by break
ing the contracts ana taking the penalties.
THE WOODRUFF CONNECTION.
q Now. when You went over 10 see Mrs. Wood
hull, upon TINS sort of summons, in May; ISL. her
person was not a stranger your A. What visit
do you allude to. sir?
g When you went over after that sort Of sum n,
May 90, 1871 : A. had seen her once and been In
troduced &c her.
O. When was that, and under what circumstan.
ces9 a. One dav, can't recolect the date.
shortly before that occurrence, gentleman called
at my ONCE, ana. IN the course OF some converse
tne Broad street broker; said no. never had {:
he told me sac was a very remarkable woman.
Witness continung-I walked down town with
him and was introduced TO her; mad an inter.
was the rst time | saw ner; very sh rtiy after
that came this card when she sent for me.
Aoo1 now I'VE WAS wna
preston is II was very short time previous to
the pHollcaton Of that card. ., ., Nov. !,
Z. There you saw her alone in her onice' A.
No, sir; | saw her husband there and one or two
other persons; don't remember all the persons
there: II was KIND OF a levee.
z. This gentleman so with your A. Yes, sir.
z. And introduced you and remanedp A. Yes,
o. 1t was an interview In her office with only
yourself and your riend9 A. My impression is
that Others were there.
q. And this lady ana her busbandY A. Yes. sir;
think others beside were present there IN the
oflce there was quite number or people there,
but won't be certain about thar.
hull? A. the last time saw her. sir, was in the
month OF April, 1872. shortly before the Cincln-
natl Convention that nominated Mr.. Greeley.
@ And what interrupted or broke or your inter-
course with her at that time? A. Did not give
that IN nv direct examination?
Mr.. Beach-Never mind; they want you to re.
peatit.
Mr.. Evarts-We only want the fact.
Wttness-My attention had been called about
that time TO an article. q proof slip OF which was
shown 10 me- IN which Mrs. WOodhull proposed to
Willy and blacxen the names OF a dozen or fifteen
wei kuown ladies connected with the woman's
suffrage movement; ! went down to see her, and
asked her whether or not It was her article,
whether IL was prepared for ner, whether she de-
signed TO publish 1t, and the substance of the re-
ply she made was that she did not de sign to pun-
did not approve OF 1t; nut lew days aiterward
learned that though, the slip had not been pub.
been sent hither and thither to various editors
ana other people. and then went down ana up
er Pr uad aa M ae
her, and never saw her since.
@. That Is the article you have spoken Of
don't know whether you gave 1t the name OF the
"rlt for Tat articleG A. That Is my impression
@ And among these ladies thus exposed TO pub
lie comment were acquaintance or yours were
there? A. Every one OF them, sir. was an Intimate
acquaintance.
q. Every one OF these fifteen ladiess Yes, sir;
know every one or Them | think. personally; I
know al the ladies' connected with the woman's
suffrage movement, more or less.
@. Aud that was your personal feeling or re.
sentiment OF the matter, that these ladles were
f.In do RI
respect? A. Yes, sir: told Mrs. Woodruff that 1t
was an outrage that o woman whom mad de.
tended against the attacks Of others should now
turn around and attack other women, and washed
my hands OF her from that moment; saw Mrs.
house and sometimes ut her office: ! also saw her
at Mr.. Moulton's house and at my house; think
she was three times at my house.
VISITING CoNEY ISLAND.
Il remember on one occasion going with her to
Coney Island; did not oathe with her; thinx
that she and ner husband came and stayed all
night at my mouse one Saturday night and part OF
SUNDAY. during when Mr.. Beecher MADE them a
visit IN the afternoon and Mrs. Iilton later in the
afternoon; whether they stayed at my house two
nights or one have forgotten; possibly two
Sights tnlnK, sir, that when we wen. down 70
that IN coming back IT was the same saturday
evening that they stayed all night; won't be posi-
Q. See II / can refresh your recollection. Do you
remember taxing carriageS A. No, sir; the car
@. At your house and her in it with nobody else
ana gong to Coney Island and there bathing to-
EotnerI a. NO. SIT; 1 was never IN tne water
with her. except IN the hot water in which nave
been here; do not remember on ieturnlng from
Coney Island with her, on stopping st my house,
leaving her In the carriage going IN and getting
some manuscript ana talking with her about that,
showing that on my way to Moulton's and that
that related TO this BUSINESS; no, sir; don't re-
member anything Ike tnat
q. Now, wnen you went there late at night after
the Coney Island excursion to her house, did the
carriage leave You thereY A. don't remember,
sir; don't remember the occasion or the c.rcum-
stance.
Q. No; but you say it may have happeneds A.
Mr.. Morris--But he don't say it happened.
Mr.. Tilton-i showed her great MANY cour-
tesies; don't remember whether that was one
OF tnem; but never showed any manuscripts to
her having reference to Mr.. Beecner or to this
business; that know; l do not know how Mrs.
Woodruff got her reference TO
THE CATHAEiNE GAUNT LETTER;
| talked very freely among my personal friends
about Mrs. Tilton aud her letters at tit times and
certain times.
@ You did lot, them respect your wfe's solicit
obeyed 10 sucn injunction as that, sir; talked
with the few persons who knew the facts.
O. Among those lew people did you talk to VIC
toria woodruff about the 'Caiharlne Gaunt
letter 2" A. No. sir never nor OF any other letter
O. Then so far as you know, II there is q refer.
ence In the woodruff letters 10 the Cathaiine
possessed Of such reterenceS A. Not uniess she
became possessed OF 1t by hearing 1t boating about
from people to whom had told 1t; she did not get
O. This story that was floating about must nave
started from your A. Anything that people knew
about the Catharne Gaunt letter must have come
originally from me. but did not state 1t to Mrs.
Woodhul.
La COMMUNE.
q. NOW. sir, do you remember an incident In which
you aud Mrs. Woodnull and her sister appeared III
a public procession III honor OF the Commune III
the streets OF the city OF New YORK? A. was
present on that occasion, but we did not appear
together; heard aterward that they appeared In
that procession; walked arm IN arm with my
personal friend John Swinton.
q An the way2 A. don't know. Turning to
Mr. Swinton, VINO stood Immediately behind him,
the witness said, "Was II all the wayf'
@. And you carried banner on that occasionf
A, No, SIR.
Q. Did you carry 1t any part OF the wayp A. No.
sir
Q. Neither in a carriage nor on foot9 A. No.
sir; that was procession IN honor OF the revered
named or Rosse, when the French government
took his life.
q. He was put 10 death for having put to death
the Chiei Justice OF France and he Archbishop OF
Paris? a. No. sir; around the world IL Is an In.
suit 10 his memory TO suggest sucn thing; say
the memory or young ROs eel Is sweet and clean
and one held dear by mankind.