New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-07-27
THE PROCEEDINGS.

Assistant District Attorney Michael NOIan
again took stand He said, at the outset desire
10 make some corrections Of my testimony which wac
given on Saturday. wish 10 say also in explanation
that intended dsresect toward any member OF the
COMMITTEE. must however still continue 10 decline TO
answer those questions winch refused 10 answer on
Saturday"
Sneaker McGuire said: al am willing TO accord any
thing reasonable 10 Witness hut don' feel inclined To
grant favors to n who holds the Committee III con
tempt" Gov. AlvOrd added: " think that The witness
will find his decision will affect his future ana is
very unwise." The Committee having consented, MI.
Nolan made the following statements am reported by
the ueyspapers to have had a private interview with
eeppior Creauer il not in any respect a private
one; talked with him openly and only in the presence
of other persons who were passing in and ont of
the room; II MIR. Nelson of Rockland County
who introduced the Hill, the passage Of which
IN 1870 secured for the confidence OF the
steamship companies; in regard to my statement
ss TO the person whom in1Istcd the bill for the Io-
duction of the headmOncy upon immigrants, think
that have COMPOUNDED the persons think now Lat
the bill was given 10 Alexander Frear. also find that
the amount money received from Che steamship COM
panies is in excess of what stated on Saturday. TIE
steamship companies have not acted with what l con-
eeive 10 honest fian,ness Contracts similar To tina
made with lac have been made with other firms OF the
hjghes, standing. wish say that this not an
eepons way TO rails" money, aud the inference that II
was done for the purpose OF corrnpng the Legislature
cannot drawn in jl any more than in the others
Ths also rebuted by the fact that the steamship com
panic In the habit OF joining together TO raise money
for purposes affecting their general interests
Sneaker McGuirc-Unlcss you give US the names,
must us st upon this being struck out from the records
Mr. Waehner-Mr. Nolan, you say that you have this
information respecting other firms WheIe did You oh
tain itl A. think in tlis room in 1872.
. O. Did any steamship oompanys agent communicate
the information ycui A. think that The nrn was
lin A Urn
Speaker McGuiro-YOu must he particular. The head
money begun only in 1867
Mr. WaeLnor-Who was il that told you this : This il
very serious charge that Deveu, Miller Il Trull
gagged as You were. 4. think 1t was Patrick H. Jones.
my former partner who me the nforma ton If the
steamship companies willing Ia pay like amount
IN years before when the till didn't pass, they would be
far more likely Ia pay for services by which they were
greatly benefited; the former investigation committees
examined Mr.. Williams and probably finding that some
thing unpleasant about Ia De discovered, stopped
wish to reiterate night here that never made any
promise expressed or implied, 10 any member of the
Legislature Commissioner Of Emigration 10 pay spy
money.
O. / now ask whether not You did lend or pay or
present any member Of the Legislature any sum Of
money A. No.
@ Did you ever lend pay, or present any money to
my one connected with the Legislature the Commits
sloneys Of EmigIstiOni A. decline to answer that
question.
O. Why DO you decline to answeri A. cannot give
ANY reason except that must adhere to this determine
ton. with all due respect n the Committee
O. why do you say that you never paid money 20 any
one officially connected either with the Legislature
the Commissioners OF Emigration A. | must also de-
cline TO why put emphasis upon the expression
officially connected with the Legislature the Commits
sioners Of Emigration; don't believe that IL Is within
the scope Of the Committee 10 inquire where ipadi
did not pay il any officially connected either with
pislof mr. he IN q
Gov AvoTd-Ifi II had been some small individual you
would have answered without hesitation. But as the
money probably given To some person OF high stand
ing and influence you decline to expose him. Now, how
much OF this money which You acknowledge receiving
did yon enjoy yourself besides what you pnt into tine firm
Of Wilson q Nolan A. decline to state.
O. Was not the $1,000 al that you received for your
self A. No, no, oh, no.
@ DO you mean to convey by inference that yon did
pay money 10 others not officially connected with the
Legislature or Commissioners of EmgrationI A. must
decline 10 answer.
O. VIII you answer whether or moi the moneys that
did go your private purse for aiding III the
passage Of the act you speak off decline To answer
Speaker McGuireDd you receive any money for aiding
and assisting in the passage OF the Jill a. did not
O. What did you pay the money for 3 A. have not
said that did pay any.
O. Understand that you have admitted indirectly that
you have paid away money. Assuming that yon dd pay
money what did you pay II for A. decline 70 answer
] am not the sabtest Cf witnesses.
O. Assuming say that you have paid money persons
officially connected with the Legislature OF Commission
ers Of Emigration who have you paid IL TO A must
decline to answer.
Mr. waehner-As you collected these moneys from time
10 time did you pay any share percentage of TO other
personsi A. Idccne to answer that question
q. Did you pay this money To any persons Officially
connected with any public position 4. No, did rot
O. Did you pay the money 10 any one who had been
T.of- lao.
soners Of Emigration A must positively decline 10
answer this aud such Other questions az yOG mas ask OF
similar character.
Speaker McGuire-YOur answers have excused every
nnau but one and that points 20 him. Mr. Nolan
When you ask Inc whether not l have paid money
to men occupying official stations answer frankly
How / distributed money privately is NY own private
business and cannot concern the committee.
@ There were persons 80 connected WHO were not III
Official capacities aftcrwtd Durhg the year 1864 there
were persons connected with the Legislature snd Com
missioners Of Emigration who out OF Office when
you received this money Did you pay Lend or present
any money u any such personsi A decline 10 answer
MR. EoLAN's BOOKS AND ACCOUNTS.
M waehner-Did you Keep au account Of the moneys
received and paid outi A. did
@ Did your accounts show all to whom you paid
moneysi A. / dou't know; have not seen them for
three years.
O. Have YOU those books nowi A. think that I de,
stroyed them; don't like old papers about IT was
not formal account that was in the habit Of keeping
don't know what there ledger columns In the
books, there was entry Of disbursement; did not
charge the OF Wilson Nolan with any expense 10
Albany. =, ,, .,, -
q You said. Mr.. Nolan, that you bad refreshed your
ali with mernOr :uda What did YOU mean by that,
when your books and papers, You say, have been de-
stroyedt A. had scattered memoranda TO which re-
ferred. 49,
o. You said that you would inform the Committee
chat sums had been paid What did You oeIn b! that