National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1875-01-15

on All matters pertaining to good wine and good
food proves him a most worthy disciple of Epi-
Gurus. His testimony is reproduced in full:
BY Mr.. KAssoN.
O. l presume you were summoned in conse-
quence Of your name having been associated in
connection with the distribution of money for the
Pacific Mail subsidy. A. received subpoena
about an hour ago-psrticularsnot specified.
z. Therefore the committee desires you TO
state how much money you received in connec-
ton with this Pacific Mail subsidy A. think
it was after the first failure Of the measure in the
House that Mr.. Berret called at my rooms one
afternoon and said that he had been requested to
see if would accept retainer to help the sub;
sidy along. l asked him how much. He said
5000, contingent Of success. "All right" He
sent to me that afternoon or next morning q
seen, Mr.. Richard B. Irwin; and some days after
Congress adjourned / was sgreeably waited upon
by Mr.. Berret. who said to me, They have had
to cut US down 5000, and there is only @IGUO
let us take what we can get; It is all right" He
handed me $. 500 in bills, and went to New YOrk
that same night
o. l suppose it unnecessary to ask YOU If YOU
retained all that sum and applied it to your own
use7 A. did. l must say that it was a very
liberal compensation for the
MODERATE AMOUNT OF WORK
which that subsidy seemed to require.
q. State the nature of the service rendered by
you. A. Simply stating, on all occasions where
It was proper to do so, that was in favor Of the
measure-that 1 thought it a good measure. 1
had right to say that, because an old ORlifor-
MAN, having sailed often on those steamers,
had a sort of friendship for them. Thought we'll
Of the line. thought 1t was anatiOnal undertake
ing-that our ship buiding was going to the dogs,
and that If these ships were to be built in this
country it would give an impetus to iron ship
building. 1 thought that a subsidy to the Pacific
Mail Steamship Company vas proper thing,
had a subsidy from the English Government, and
had attained colossal success. wanted to see
THE AMERICAN FLAG
flying again on the seas: and 1 would have
helped the Pacific Mail Company without one
q. You used all your influence to secure the
passage Of the subsidy? A. Certainty. There
was not much time to act: only fortnight, 1
think. was rather agreeably surprised at be-
ing retained, because that clinched my deter
minatiOn to do what could for what regarded
as great national enterprise.
Q. Do YOU know of any other sum Of money
being paid to any parties for their services in pro-
curing that subsidy? A. l never heard Of any
until 1 was surprised the other day by Mr..
Abert's list, which saw in the Star. ! never
knew who was in the combination, except that
found that people generally were very fayorabIy
inclined toward the bill did not know MIR.
Albert. ! had Fever seen him to my knowledge
never saw Mr.. Irwin till the day the vote was
taken, when l sawa
PALE MAN STANDING AROUND
the corner, and was told that it was Mr.. Irwin.
q. My question was if you knew of any other
in connection with the subsidy? A. Not penny:
might have been at liberty to suppose that the
whole thing was confined to myself and Mr..
Berret.
q. The $500 which you received was paid by
check? A. Yes; payable to my order on the Met
TOpOlitan National bank OF this city.
q. Do you know Of any other money being paid
to any member, officer or employee Of either
House Of Congress in connection with the subsidy?
A. No, sir.
MI. Beck: q. have heard it suggested that
rrV hod hat uaa a daal oF
difhculty in gentleman's living in Washington
on the oxygen Of the atmosphere, and that a gen
tleman was obliged TO do something. A. This
business of:lObbying, as it is called, is as pre-
eaTiOus as
FISHING. IN THE HEBRIDEs.
You get all ready; your boats go out; suddenly
there comes on a storm, and away you are driven.
Everybody who knows anything about Washing
measures are lost than are carried; but ence in a
while pleasant little Windtall of the kind recon-
penses u.s. who are always tOilng here for the dis
appointments Of the session. an not at all
ashamed Il do not say that 1 am proud, but
am not at all ashamed, } of the occupation. 1t is
very useful one. In England IL is separate
branch Of the legal profession. There they have
PARLIAMENTARY LAWYERS,
who do no other business There the committees
sit all day to hear these lawyers, and they sit in
Parliament all night. Whereas these commit
tees are only allowed to sit for hour and half
and so IL is very hard to get through four thou
much more numerous than the successes. l have
had many q very pleasant contingent" knocked
away, [laughter,l when everything appeared
prosperous and certain, and 1 would not insure
any bill If were paid so per cent. to secure its
passage. That is the general rule. In this sub
sidy matter, think that the gentleman (Ir.
IrWin) paid more money than he need have paid
By Mr.. Niblack: q. And he distributed it rather
badly? A; l am satisfied with what got.
z. YOu got much less than others got? A.
do not know. was retained, l suppose, becaues
THE KINGS NAME
is tower of strength. TIaughter.l and am called
the king Of the lobby but am not the treasu-
rer Of the lObby-thats certain. If you were
here for entertainment could entertain you with
histories OF WellcOnceTted plans which all disap-
pear just at the crook of one members whip
perhaps matter Of caprice, perhaps q matter Of
accident; you cannot tell which. We who are of
q" the regular army know when We are whipped,
Llaughter;l but gentlemen Of little experience
come down here and peg on and peg on till the
end OF the session, and never understand why
they had better go home. Laughter To intro
duce bill properly, to have it referred to the
proper committee, to see that some member on
that committee understands its merits, TO attend
to it, TO watch it. to have counsel to go and ad-
Vocste it before committee, to see that members
Of the committee do not OVersleep themselves on
the mornings Of important meetings, to watch
the coming in OF the bill in Congress day after
day, week after week, 10 have your men on hand
a dozen times, and TO have them as often disap-
pointed, to have one Of those storms which spring
up in
THE ADRIATIC OF CONGRESS.
until Iyour men are all worried and worn, and
tired out; until they say TO themselves that they
will not go up TO the Capitol to-day, and then to
have the whole bird flushed and all your prepa-
Istions brought to naught. These are some Of
the experiences Of the lobby. [LRughter.l An
other point: The question Of entertainment Of q
refined order. Laughter TalIeyraud says
that diplomacy is assisted by good dinners"
But at good dinners
PEOPLE DO NOT TALK SHOP,
but they give people who have a taste in that
way right perhaps TO ask a gentleman a civil
question and TO get a civil answer; to get infor-
nation which his clients want and that can prop
erly be given. Sometimes q railroad man wants
Information. Sometimes patentee wants his
patent renewed. That is q pretty hard fight.
tLsughter.l Then broker wants 70 know what
the Treasury is going to do about a certain
the financial movements in Congress, or q mer-
chant about the tariff. All these things we do
constantly, and We do not make any charge for
and once in a while an opportunity comes Of get
ting something that is OF rare service, and for
which compensation is due and proper. But the
Of the session. When the business is good
so ARE THE ENTERTAINMENTS,
and when the business is not good the entertain
ments are meagre. lLaughter.l Mr.. Irwin told
me story Of King Of Spain who was lost in the
Eooas with his hunting party. He ordered one
there was any building in sight. The man saw
chateau on the top Of an adjacent hill, and the
King said, Let US 20 there" They went, and
were received at the door of the chateau BY the
grandee, with his head uncovered. The King
announced who he was, and said that the party
wanted dinner. The family had diued an hour
before and the. servants had consumed every
thing that vas left The cook was sent for, and
said that His Majesty would be served in an
ho9rS time. They had very pleasant dinner,
ana the Hing was rather surprised at the taste
displayed in some OF the dishes.
After elmer, commencing the excellence Of
the repastr he asked what IL was composed Of
Luckily II was not Friday. The grandee sent
Tor the cook. The cook came in and said: sEYour
your oinner; and he went to the window and
showed the King
P1FTT-Two PIGS
with their ears all cut of. Said the King: "a
man who can make such a Fepast as that from
the ears Of hity-two pigs should be made Gov
eTnOr OF province Laughter
By Mr.. NIblack: @. Is there not a great deal
Of money wasted in COED dinners3 A, / do not
think that money is ever wasted on good dinners
If man dimes badly he
FORGETs TO SAY HIS PRAYERS
on going to bed: but If he dimes well he feels like
a Faint. [LauGhter.I
By the Chairman: q. We're you aware that Ny
Berret, in point Of fact, had received 10000 in
stead Of 5000? A. No, did not know anything
about IL until saw IL mentioned in the papers
1t was quite right. He probably did more work
than did. l was satisfied with what got.
Mr.. Ward, in giving his testimony, or rather in
delivering his humorous lecture, stood at the
fun and abEurdity Of the thing, and he kept the
a0u1rnitfaP and q larpp nudfpufa in a STE