New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-24
REDIRECT EXAMINATION OF MR. CLEYE'
LAND.

Mr. Shearman-Mr Cleveland, what IL your
state OF health' A. very poor
O. How long have you boon sol A. Ihave been oon'
flned to my house six weeks next Honday'
O We're YOU advised by your ply Ncan "a to whether t
was safe for YOU to attend this court OF mott Twas
advised not to attend.
O. You have been inquired Attic OF a. 70 your oA'ii
nation in YOUR house were you sitting or lying down
when that examination was taken' A Lying down.
O What WAS your state Of health at that tlme' a
Unable to alt up.
o. We're YOU in pain or not, A. Constant pain.
And during considerable part Of the day Is not that
main very seyerei A. Very severe from Or 30ooca In
the morning until or in the afternoon
O. How does 1t Affect your head and how did 1t at that
timct A. 1t has almost broken my nervous organSaoh'
my head refused to serve me good deal vi to uo
for the last three or four weeks.
O. In that period you tainted once at least, did you
mott A. had paralysis Of sOme kind; don't know
what It was fell upon the floor when was alone.
O How long did that falnting mt lasti A. cannot tell
O. How long did you understands A. Well, thought
about two or three minutes, or minute or two
O. How long did the effect of it last upon you-the pros
tration A. IL has lasted until this time think
O. You have stated that you went, you now believe.
To ace publisher with copy Of tho Trparie Covenant
II understood you right, In May, 1873 Did Sr Beecher
in ny way authorize request consent 20 the publ
cation OF that papcri A lie did not
Mr. Beach-Wait wait.
The Wtness-As far as my knowledge Is concerned he
knew nothing whatever about 1t.
O. Did he in fact make any effort 70 publish It, or 70
prevent ts publica,ion-which lie made an effort TO
prevent it.
O. Now Sir with reference to these West charges you
said that you hoard OF their nature What do you
mean by saying that you heard OF tho nature OF the
charges In 1871 How much did you hear about hem'
A. Simply that Mr. West had preferred charges: that Is
about ell; I had not seen them.
O. You were not member OF the Examining Com
mittec at tina. timei A. was not
O. You now are memberi A. I am.
O. Do you know what is the custom and practical rule
OF tho Examining Committee with regard to matte RS OF
that kind when Laid before them. as to whether they
allow persons outside Of the Committee 70 know any
thing OF them, not A. do.
O. What Is that custom A. That custom not to dig
close them even to members Of the church
O. You wore present at the meeting Of the church on
October 81, 1873. when tho West charges were, III
sense finally disposed OF. were yOu mott A. was.
Q. Do you do you not remember that on that occa
sion no statement was made by the Examining Commit
tee by any other person. OF tho nature Of the charges
on that EVENING" A. My recollection Is that there
no statement made in regard to them
O. None by the Committee in IL report A. Mono by
the Committee. / mean. of course.
O. Do you recoect whether any statement made by
any person except Mr. TtOn himself tending to throw
charges against Mr. TltOni A. don't recOllect that
there was any other statement made Of that character
O. Now, Sir in Mr. Tllton's speech did he in any way
undertake to describe so far as you remember, what
charges had been made against him by Mr. West specific
sly-by Mt West A. Ny recollection that he did not
O. Did he mention Mr.. Vests name in all his speech,
tina, Won rememberi A. My recollection is he did not.
O. After YOU became a member of the Examining Conf
mtee were the records OF the Examining Committee for
the year 1873 placed in your handsi A. No. Sir,
not TO my knOwldge.
O. We're the minutes OF any meeting in which Mr..
Vests charges considered ever read ia yoar hear
ipgi A. Never.
n Won never were the clcrN OF tla, Committed A. /
never
O. During the year 1874 Mr.. Talnsge was the clerk,
was he mott A. lie was.
O. And it was his duty keep the records, and no,
yoursi A. IL was his duty a. understood.
Mr.. Beach-Who Ii clerk nOwf
MI. shearman-Mr. Halliday is now.
Mr. Evarts-Of the Examining Committee.
Mr. Shealman-You were asked some questions in re-
card 10 what you testified to in your sckroOm. 1 ask
you this one general question, whether your state Of
health such that felt able clearly to understand
si the questions that put TO YOU at that time A.
Il was not.
O. find on the record the question asked you by NJ
Morris in reference TO June 20, 1874:
Q. Had you seen Mr.. Beecher that dayt A. saw him
o. Before YOU went TO his housef A. No. Sir
O. Had you him on the caisf A. had not.
Now II you did make those answers az reported have
You any explanation that You desire TO make OF them
A. n | made them In that way. 1t was an error. NV
sta teInent should have BEEN and Is, that ! saw Mr.
Beecher on the rear end Of coming down Beelnar
st. about o'clock that afternoon happened 10 lie
standing my front door OF the store he came by and
eekoned me- and pointed TO Brooklyn, which inter-
preted az invitation to aud see him; came
over at o'clock.
O. Then, II I understand you correctly, y0u did not
mean 10 say that YOU did not him "a earl A. did
not mean TO say that did not him with my eyes, but
that had not met him to have conversation with him,
to have verbal invitation TO 60 to his house.
O. Either Oh the ears anywhere elset A. Any where
else.
O. You have mentioned that in the interview between
you and Mr. Bcecher after o'clock that afternoon June
&c. he Toned the Of eight gentlemen
part Of whom most Of whom afterward placed,
In fact upon the gatug Committee have you mol
understand 50. A. have.
O. And that In the evening after 93O the names of
the same gentlemen with others, mentioned
10 Mr. Beecher either by yourself or by Mr.. Sherman
Now You explain any reasonwell In the first place
did You tell Mr. shearman Gen Tracy anything about
the names which Mr., Beeoher bad snsgestedf A. did
not