New-York tribune., 1875-02-16

,a Congress- did You not subsequently appear before
the Committee and request to withdraw your testimony
o What did that grow out Ofyour satisfaction that hat
sayus BEEN to
ut all 1t was q matter in which bad no business 70
Of deprSne ms OF the good opinion Of some sonemen
whose esteem valued very highly. and lerased the
wns apa real estate Of
N. " was next examined lie testified mat IN January,
whole time energies to the work OF promoting the
OF the Pacific Mail Subsidy bill by the use OF all
proper and legitimate means Mr. Irwin agreed to pay
him. II tho bill passed $1,000 per annum every
| year that tie CONTRACTS might run; suose-
| qnenty this arrangement was changed. and II was
agreed that the for the ten OF the antic
pared contract should be capitalized at $500; this was
the total ount ibat witness received from rwin me
especial object OF hs employment to influence SEN
Cole to favor the subsidy and certain un-
friendly impressions that were supposed to exist 10 MS
mind against Mr. Irwin; the witness found, however,
when ns came Washnston that senator SSo dS M ts Us
increased subsidy and fully committed 10 t; witness
from Mr. Irwin, except 10 talk with everybody he knew
about the national advantages 10 De derived Hom
| authorizing the semi-monthy Chipa mail service anu
granting increased compensation. The witDeSs re-
peated in reply to question that he did not mDr
Of having spoken TO any member OF the House blt IN
accordance with his agreement he to do anything
he could 10 help the subsidy by speaking ayoraDy OF
the measure aud to act as Irwin desired o.. aon,,.
and not in tho Housef A. Yes, as rar as remember.
Senate A. Mr. irwin said he thought certain senator
was cross toward him personally and no desired that
Senator
measure the name Of the Senator was Mr. Cole; Mr.
Irwin was desirouG Of removing prejudice from his
mind and that he should stand up for tho measure
heartily Mr.. Irwin asked to him did so and
at the first interview discovered therc was no such
the measure he could not do otherwise as it
In whcn his constituents were deeply Interested
@ We're you asked to see any other 5enatori A. do
O. It appears that you received Sc 500 for your work
A. received that amount for tho time spent but not Tor
that particular work. l felt myself entitled to that
much money. Twas engaged In an extensive business
to extent OF sloOOOo year was the purchasing
and forwarding mem6er OF tho firm came from Ar-
In further response the witness said he had been en-
gagged by Mr. Irwin 70 dispose Senator Coles mind favor
aud legal adviser lie had called at his house fre-
Seny ne was not fs m con- aho wneSs
unces wife sisters he never told Mr. Cole what
lie was employed Tor by Mr. lrwln or whst money no
eve that he speaking from Pacific point OF view
Toe witness kept all the money ne received lor @ ni
self exclusively and was not directed to share Win
Mr. Kasson showed witness a check drawn by him for
a1e023 payable TO Cornelius Cole and ndorsed by Mr.
Cole and by George ID. Krum hoor OF Philadelphia The
caLe OF Nov. H. 1872 Tho witness having
been asked TO state tho facts connection with tho
check said Between the 9th and l2th OF November he
was cOLfned TO his home by sickness. lie sent the
check ~ Mr. Cole who In Pmladelpha, and asked
hlm TO pay with 1t the money he owed 70 krumthoor
which he dId. and took u receipt Ia witnesss name.
Tnis altogether private transaction. In which Mr.
Cole bad interest Witness had become liable Tor the
payment OF the debt TIE business might be called a
transacoD in stock Krumrhoor was the Treasurer of
the California Construction Company, ana tho money
paid to him "A subscription 70 stock.
Mr. Dawes asked whether the check itself payable to
the order OF KrumthOor with tho latters indoIeemc9
would not have been u sufficient receipt without Mr.
Coles intervention. The wlDess replied that II might
have better to send the check in that way Tne
California Construction Company was to construct Fall
roads III California and Texas.
1t was his impression that bo met Mr. Irwin at sote
the day after arrived in NewYork The original con
tract with Mr. Irwin was for $4,000 year, ana the
service was subsidy. .
O. Did you at the time OF the contract think IL Would
tase years to get subsi1yf A. did not
uaeI tt uI bs subsidy would last ten years and that
stipend salary would last that time; my cohtrso
with Mr. Irwin for the paJ ment Of $1,000 year Tor
ten years and was to hoid myse Ill feadhes' " eAe
cute Mr.. Ilwin'sor orders.
mNney because You thought Your services were Worth
| IL. If you were employed only two months, you had
nine years ana ten months to spares why dId you put
such your services for only TWO months EN-
| ploymeDti A. believe that gentlemen making con-
tracts will get what their services are worth IL they cam
| o How came you TO settle under the contract for
$500 for months services You say you saw Mr.
Cole only once aud found az your interview there was
no use going any further, he being already favorahy
disposed o the subsidy A. rave 10 answer I,
But il was not to carry out the contract. but the
nav meat was for services rendered. A. think the
capitalization took place before the work was over
# the object IN Mr TWINS employing you vas to
Influence Senator Cole there was no necessity lot doing
so as he already the side CT the subsidy. A.
| That was my understanding
In further reply, the witness said Mr. Irwin thought
that Mr. GS a eFs reconcile min n n
dispose him iay9rae to the subsidy % th ne informed dn
he would heartily suspOrt the measure The witness
fonnd Mr.. Colo well disposed toward 1t as nc could
| @. Instead OF Mr. Irwin making o contractwith you
to pay tooCOo for your interview with Mr. Coe do you
know Of any reason why Ir Cole would not nave told
| Mr Irwin The same thngl A. No, sr
The witness, In response 10 further Inquiries, SAID
that Mr. Irwin gave to him check for larger
sum than $50 30 nor had he received larger from
HIM: had doubt IRWIN was In error In stating that
he had returned Irw si0tOo, he did not recoect
| returning any sum his understanding was that the
check sc 500 full settlement, and II Irwin re-
rarded remainder Of the 100000 as money returned
that was his own way Of tranSactlng business. The
not apt TO forget the actual amohnt he re-
ceIyed Having received check for the money he OBJ
ained for certificate OF deposit and passed 1T 10 his
By Mr. Nblaek-You say You have nothing to conceal
We have believed you have reluctant to come be-
fore Committee TO testify and have kept out OF the
way OF subpoena. What have you to say over that
point in the way OF explanatoni have to say with
from home was to AVOID subpoena: went TO the
oil regOn OF Pennsylyabia saw In tho newspapers
my name connected with this matter; was somewhat
appalled, by II; not being lawyer preferred to take
time consider the subject; another reason was the
fact that that Irwin had stated that had re-
| ceved sOO0O0 which was an error ana which sup,
| posed would be obvious to hn, and that he wOdld
correct the iss,aement. before the Committee; was
Q. Wcuid It not have been better to come here your
sell and the corrected rather than trust to Mr.
| Irwin A. made = mistake.
@ Did you not know tpat by keeping out Of the way
YOU were dong injustice 10 Senator Cole A. am very
| sorry did 1t under mistaken Impression. But
| came here voluntarily.
legal SUMMONS until be reached his hotel In Washington
He did know how the Committee came to get sub
pena into his hands Canada. 10 arrived In Canada
on Wednesday night. and teegraphed TO his wife Thurs
day. and then nor, and during Sunday the tele
| graphic summons delivered; when witness made
his with Mr. Irwin he severed his connection
| with the business house of Hooper, Whiting ~ Co.
Mr.. Kasson pointed ont 10 witness the testimony OF
Mr. Clarke taken In New-York, by which IL appeared
the witness received check for 100000 The witness
sa,d his mpres the check for s5G,500 and
that this was the precise sum Mr. Irwin was at the
bank with him IL not probable he indorsed the
| check wit ihout knowing the amount 1t covered
Mr.. Kasson showed the witness Mr.. Twins account
hook There entries OF two OF 100000, but
| none of tile $50 500 The witness replied the only