The New York herald., 1875-12-16

TERM sPEEcH-EvERYTHISG NICELY AR
RANGED TO HELP THE ''FRIEND OF THE
coLoRED MAN" IN THE SOUTH.
BosToN Dec H. 1875.
Those enthusiastic third term utterances Of Bishop
Gilbert Haven a Methodist gathering in this city, last
week, seem TO stirred up the advocates ana
opponents of Caserism all over the country. The
Bishop is very clever fellow of worldly intel
ect and perfect embodiment Of Methodist Christi
lnity as his exalted position the church will indicate
but it believed Of him that he would become
lhe renowned political hero which he finds himself to-
day Indeed it is hard his old friends realize that
il is the same jolly auburn-haired ''Gil Haven" who
lived in Maiden, who has now developed into
the eminent pioneer and cheitan Of that band Of reg
lous patriots whose mission it is TO make General
Grant his own Presidential in 1875 The cir
:umstance aptly illustrates the truth OF the old adase
hat some born great some achieve greatness
md have greatness thrust upon them. This
Enigma sort of saying, it should be added, IS
equally applicable the President and the Bishop but
i is the public TO determine under which head
either both should be classified
WHAT SOME METHODIST PREACHERS THINK.
II the the Methodist preachers OF Boston
md vicinity 10 assemble once week for the purpose
,f formally discussing some chosen subject bearing
lpon the prosperity and welfare of Methodism Their
meetings held in the famous Wesleyan Hall, in
3rom1eld street and here that the HERALD cor
respondent found hundred or more Of the clergy in
council to-day. | had confidently anticipated that the
ubject for discussion this occasion would be the
eInarkable address which delivered by Bishop
Iaven last week. In tins was disappointed, how
sver for the matter in dispute whether the
Of Christianity is promoted retarded by Sunday
camp meetings. The discussion waxed warm for up
oftwo hours and then the subject laid over for
further consideration next week When the meeting
had dissolved there numerous circumstances in
dicating that
BISHOP HAVEN
the matter uppermost in the minds OF many OF the
preachers Indeed, several had hoped it would have
been formally brought up before adjournment and it is
impossible that It may yet form topic Of discus
sion some future session. While it is undoubtedly
that very great majority of the Methodist clergy
in favor OF giving General Grant new exccu-
lease of the White House it is also equally certain
that few are indignant that Bishop Haven should be
popularity credited with the leadership.
ZIoSs HERALD EDITOR on THE RAMPAGE.
Among those thus inclined to discourage the threat
sned importance of the Bishops famous address none
ire more emphatic and outspoken than Bradford X.
Peircc the accomplished editor of Zions Herald the
standard and recognized Methodist organ of New
England.
'That speech OF Bishop Havens,n he said, when in
Ierrogatcd by your correspondent, ''has been most
;hameiully exaggerated all over the country AS an
expression of the Methodist Church the matter or
General Grant for third term II amounts to nothing
aothing whatever, sir; nothing "
Il suppose the Bishop uttered the words attributed
10 himy"
'well don't know what is attributed to him exactly,
except that Philadelphia paper represented that he
nominated General Grant Tor the third term, and that
the nomination was Endorsed enthusiastically by the
Hethodsts and this has been copied extensively the
New York and other papers all the country. II
the impression that the question OF nominating
before
that II WIS decided unanimously In the Affirmative. II
was no such thing / will tell YOU how il was;-The
Bishop making u speech another subject-some-
thing about protection Tor the freedmen OF the South
and IN the course OF his remarks he comphmentcd
General Grant guarding their rights and finally
aid that he hoped 10 see him renomInated and re-
elected. After tins remark he continued his speech
he subject under consideration thus showing that his
illusion 10 General Grant simply Incidental There
cheering or throwing up Of hats, AS has been
described and what little enthusiasm there look
lpon more complimentary TO Bishop Haven than
any one elseo
Have you published anything about the matter in
''No; but shall this week. shall simply say that
the whole thing has been exaggerated and magnined In
. most ridiculous Manner
THE BISHOP STILL NOMINATING.
In the course OF my conversation with Mr. Peirce he
informed me mat ne mad Just received letter from the
Bishop Syracuse in which he explained what he sad
It the Boston meeting. This explanation. under
stood by your reporter that the Bishop asked the
brethren at the meeting to
PRAY PoR THE RRSomINATIoS OF GENERAL GRANT,
pray they did He also hs that the
nomination had been well received in syracuse and
other places which he had visited since leaving Boston
THE MArTRR CONCERN
Down in tho Methodist Book Concern. under
Wesleyan Hall, most Of the preachers assemble after
participating n the discussions OF the forenoon. In a
commercial II may be termed sort OF Methodist
Exchange Many OF these gathered this afternoon en-.
gagged conversation the matter Of Bishop Havens
speech
Dr. Upham, Of Lynn with whom your correspondent
talked, declared that there was great deal more
nihcance in the Bishops speech than many OF the
preachers cared admit He did not think that the
nomination, as made by him, was altogether "inci-
dental" On the contrary, he believed the utterancc
to have been deliberately premeditated aud lie knew
that the majority ofthe preachers shared ia the same
belief
ANOTHER THIRD TERM SPEECH.
One OF the preachers reminded your correspondent
that the patriotic Bishop made third term speech
down in Faneuil Hal on the Saturday evening pre-
sedng the late State election. He boldly
aid that he hoped to General Grant renominaled
and the remark was received with few hsses At
Ihese manifestations tue Bishop said that the last
election he did not for Grant, as a great many of
his hearers had done but within the last years
had seen his mistake, and he going support
him u nc had an opportunity The same meeting was /
addressed by President Miner oil Tuit's College and
Wendell Phillips, both OF whom solid third terncrs
"TnE STORY
Having discovered IN my pcrambuations around the
Wesleyan Building that there DIVISION OF opinion
n 10 how the Bishop happened become 20 cuthusi.
nsc in his admiration Tor President Grant endeav-
ored 10 get ~ the truth OF the affair The Bishop him
self being absent In Western New York Il was inposs
bic To get his version Of the affair, and therefore
waited upon the Rev. J. W. Hamilton pastor Ut tho
First Methodist Church, IN Temple street, where the
celebrated address delivered
"rhc occasion, !, explained Rev Mr.. Hamilton twas
meeting OF the Methodist preachers. acre there
by invitation, and the Tract Society present by
invitation Of the preachers There were not less than
PRESENT.
and the majority OF them were Methodist ministers
"Was the speech Incidental was 1t pre.arranged ~
asked
"That speech OF Bishop Hayen's answered Preacher
Hamilton. "wns n matter Of appointment and de-
termned upon fully weeks before and by my own
suggestion Ii grew out O statement winch had n
The preachers meeting by Of first
bers Of the Methodist Episcopal church souh-thc INST
authorized representation oi the southern hethodss
since the war-cOncernng the condition ~ the COored
Methodiss in the Southern States and was the result