The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-06


MOI l SAID, II 'deiy MN 70 his lace before the
wnole word;n those stories was not AFRAID Of IN
the slightest degree.
O. Now, sr, IN what terms dia Mr. Moulton ex-
press himself, alter your conversation VIA MN
toward Mr.. TiltonY A. He spoke IN yery strong
language IN condemnation OF Mr. Bowens con-
dnct-ne thought 4 10 be aespcabe, cruel, reach
erous ana N every way mean. lnose words were
not on.y spoken but tney were Illuminated.
q. Did ne state MS vie VS. OF Bowen's purpose In
setting you agalLst Triton and Illton against your
A. Yes, we were TO have torn each otner up and
left the track clear to MIN.
q. In THIS interview dad you give Mr.. Moulton
iuil account o. your interview with MT. Bowen
stricken at the narration gave him, and he ques-
TONED me II II was possible.
q. iou went TO Mr.. Moulton at that time-at
the conclusion OF your published statement al
the cnurch-of the settlement between Mr.. Bowen
and YOURSELF A. Yes. sir; gave him graphic &C
count o. the settlement arrived at between Mr..
Bowen ana myself.
you by Mr.. Mouton concerning the contents or
proposed contents or a letter or document Mr..
were there any particulars names or
instances OF charges against e., you men,
mentioned IN regard 10 their being included in
that document, but we were alkIng OF the charges
rion in regArd to the charges; his charges were
mentioned and discussed, out they were not men
/ TONED 10 me as they aiterward appeared In the
\ letter.
Q. Did Mr. Moulton repeat the charge that you
\ had confessed adultery 10 Bowen A. He said
something OF that KIND at some interview; |
mink laughed; II l confessed adultery 10 Mr..
II
\ to nim mat from the origin oil the dificulty be-
tween Mr.. Bowen ana myself down TO 1870, and
again 10 December 20, there nad been several arol-
4 tratlons and many conventions between Us, but
tnat Mr.. Bowen never pad any difilculty wltn me
statement TO me duplicating my moral character.
i GETTING RID OF BOWEN.
/ As Mr.. Beecner declared the only difficulties he
had with Bowen were OF business character he
struck his knee with the palm oil his hand and
looked up cheeruly as though ne had strangled one
Z had
nothing OF an adulterous charge to make, and as
4 the public thought he had and that the defence
was AFRAID or him, the witness was delighted at
the chance OF rolling him OUT OF the way with
\ wave of his hand.
\ Mr.. geecner went on to say:-Moulton spoke OF
the matter and SAID Mr. Bowen was bound 70 see
justice done to Mr.. rton; | sald was glad to see
MN trying 10 get justice oone by Moulton, and
that as he was an expert IA business was glad 70
see MN carrying out the matter.
z. Did Mr.. Moulton say to you that he did not
carry the claim OF Mr.. lllton INTO Court, as
il would rlp up your relations win Tue family q
Q. Did Mr.. Moulton tell you that Tilton would
rather take wnal Bowen owed him than rip up
your lelatons with his family or anything or tnat
Klnd A. No, SIR
Q. Do you remember whether during this con-
versauon any memorandum OF those points was
brought outY A. Yes, SIR; told Mr.. Moulton
under discussion between Mr.. bowen aud myself
at Freelanas after TINS conversation Mr.. MouIton
wanled them; l hunted them up and brought
them to him.
.. Dld you deliver that paper to Mr. Mouton at or
about that time A. Yes; IL was about chat time
that began 10 put my documents IN MS nands,
H TINS included
q. Was that paper in Buwen's handwriting A.
\ Yes, SIR. paper produced.)
Mr.. Eyarts said tina original paper was not De.
fore them, but there was an agreement between
counsel that copy instead OF me original should
the Court-There can be no objection to your
using the copy.
Mr.. Evarls read as iolows:-
FIa-Report and publish sermons and lecture-room
Seeond-New edition Plymouth Collection and Free
ThtTa-Explanation to church
FV1~Reuact IN every Quarter what has been said to
my injury.
4 Mr.. Beecher-I took each or those points, and
told Mr.. Moulton what the subject OF converse.
ton was on eacn one OF them between Mr.. Bowen
o. Did Mr.. Moolton, at this stage OF the inter-
view, state to you what he proposed TO do A.
He spoke with the utmost confidence OF compel
\ ling Mr.. Bowen TO dlsgorge; understand That
that was what was proposed TO be done.
Q. Do you remember the expression that Mr..
Moulton used on the subject OF br nging Mr..
\ Bowen 70 termss A. There were GOOD many OF
them; think IL was IN that interview ne said
\ that ne would bring him 20 his marrow bones.
Bowen is the snuttlecock OF the trial Neither
sioe wants him and neither side has Q word OF
kindness to waste upon nim.
GETTING BOWEN TO DO JUSTICE.
Mr.. Beecner-He spoke at TINS interview Of
Y MIR. 30 en- OF himself would do JustIce 10 Mr.. I'LL
ton without tnese being any recourse 10 legal
.. Do you recolIect anything OF this character
4 being said by Mr. Moulion 10 you In regard 70
& puusn sue letter. emitting ali reference IN IT TO
7 your Iela ions with MS amlly A. No, SIR; there
was no sucn letter SHOWN 10 me, and no sucn dis
cussion could nave taken place.
II q. Do you re.nemp him tMoulton) saying he
u. in tue same month oil January, at u Iater
period. old you nave an interview with "a. Moul.
mad WITH Mr. 30 ven 7 A. Yes the next day aIter
the interview. whenever II was.
z. How did THIS interview come aooutf A.
think 1t about by my own wIsn; az TINS inter-
Y view gave nun the documents he asked Tor;
don't remember That lie sent Tor me IL was At nls
house. 10 the parlOr down stars; tns was along
ABOUT the 18Th OF January, put = wall not oe POSI-
tive.
q. what did Mr.. Moulron tell you IN this inter-
view as TO what passed between him and Mr.
Bowen; where dld he Mr.. Bowen 7 A. he
saw MIN at ms own house; ne na1 alreauy told me
tnat Mr.. Bowen had oeen invited 20 cali a lew
days before; on that nIgnt ne tod me ne was
present at lull aud long conversation between
himself and Mr.. Bowen, which conversation ne
described minufeN and Dramatically.
q. DID ne show you now Mr.. Bowen stood A.
Yes, ana now he looAed and what ne sad.
sDS Mr.. sows0'' or on those oecasIoas with
Mr.. Moulton, do you remember the subject coming
up o. your iesSg eSara 70 sne iGl ~ ySa
you meant
and Mr.. Moulton was there any suggestion OF an
expression vi ceiling on your part OF having taken
SIDES against Mr. TIlron with M. Bowenf A. l 40
9. State tue conversation as fully as you can
I A. tie detailed to me with a particularly tnat
am unable TO renearse here the statement
which he had made 10 Bowen or Bowen's
treatment OF Mr.. nlton, and of
I the iniamy or conduct IN pro-
curing Mr.. rlton TO write tue letter oil the 6tn,
ana then IL and back II, aud then stand right
QUA rom under and 90 over 10 my side; he went
into the matter vita relish aud erectually, and
then opened Bowen regard To MS treat
ment VI a parallel instance OF iniamy
almost without example; he rehearsed 10 him the
dinerent stories ne mad told me, anu tnat wnen
had had interviews at one time ana another with
HIM ne nau never dared 10 mention one OF these
stories 90 my face, but only Oenlnd ny back, and
tnar they never came up except In the settlement
OF some money difficulty wnicn mad occurred De-
tween as he tnen told Bowen that the last grand
settlement nad taken place between MIN anu at
Nj. FrSeand's house, the presence or
Mr.. nlton. in tue early part OF the
year 1870; That a. tnat time ne said