New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-16
MR.. TLToN DISCUSSES HIS TROUBLES,


Mr.. TILTON DISCUSSES HIS TROUBLES.
O. Do you recollect an Occasion near the end
OF 1870 when Mr. Tt6n mentioned to you his troubles with
Mr. Bowen in regard The Unon and his edorshp OF tf
A. In 1870, do you sayf
O. Well near the 1870 whether il was the beginning
OF 1871 or the end Of 1870 know' A. remember the
circumstance though speak positively as to the date
O. Yes what occurred between You at that
time upon ubectY A. II is very difficult to recoect and
give the language, because I
O But the substance Of the interview A. think was
after Mr. ons discharge he told ME about the notice he had
received to quit ediorshp Of The Brooklyn linton, and
rcced circumstances that brought 1t about asked him
why it was or what the was, why Mr.. Bowen
had discharged him. l said to him: 81 hope 1t mas
not been brought about taking advice Mr. Tton knew
what referred TON regard to the Webster campaign lie
said: THAT perhaps, among other things" And he said
something this open letter that he bore to Mr. Beecher-
or that Mr. Bowen bore Mr. Beecher and that Mr. Bowen
had deserted him. and joined Mr. Beecher against him. and he
was made appear being the offending party and stated
that Mr. Bowen had dismissed him without the six months
notice which part OF the agreement There was clause
in his agreement that MI Bowen should give him six months
notice either party indeed should give six months notice
they terminate the relations Mr. Bowen had not
but had summay dismissed him four days after he
had renewed his contract.
@ Now, Mr.. Harman, do You reeolect meeting Mr. Triton
after that upon az when you went to lunch with him.
l cannot give the exact date.
@ Where did yon him. Just begin and give that mar
ratye in your wayf A. In my former testimony said
was April think have been before that; cannot fix
the date; il may have been early as February
@ Very WELL A. met him. az | frequently did-Mr. Til
tonrosnc the ferry going back and FORTH and met him
certain day. and he said me- think What time do yon
20 to lunch ?" said, About o'clock" lie sad Come
down tomorrow ~ think it was-"come down tomorrow,
viii go lunch together" did; met him by APP
pontment.
O. At what placef A We Bangs restaurant down
town-a down town place, up stairs.
O. On Broadway near the Post-Once' A. On Broad
way, right about opposite the new Office guess, or
nearly
O. Then you went into public saloon and had lunch with
Mr. Tton? A. We went into saloon upstairs, rather
private place and down. and he ordered the unch whatever
il
O. Were you in private room' A. No. Sir no. it was mp
stairs in the saloon There is eating place
down and another upstairs more private but still was
not private We had private table TO ourselyes
@ There were some persons theref A. There some
persons in the ROOM but in immediate vicinity
O. Now please what occurred between You and Mr.
T,on there A. The old matter up Of bis being dis
missed nom TIE Union.
O. Go on Give what he said and what You said the sub
stance Of it, nearly You can A. Mr. TOn told me that
he was going to collect s7Uo-I think he caimed-he
thought collecting it, indeed had determined 70, but
there was one obstacle thing that he rereedone OBJ
stace way thing that he regretted itwoud revive
an Old maer-l not whether he designated it as
scandal but think he did-ha bad been settled.
@ say anything about Bowens having slandered hm'
A. | going to tell You.
Mr. MorTis-Ask what he said.
Nj I;ll-I am simply calling his attention.
The Wnes-I going to tell You just what occurred,
nearly as can remember it,
O. Very well A. lie said il would revive old scandal
old matter whatever it didn't expect then should be
called upon testify and cannot remember the language
said "What Is IT, Well he said Mr. Bowen had been SLAM
derng think he said of the best in Brooklyn
good something to that effect, and it would
cessarily bring those TO the surface. said "What is hy
He then ecited about Bowens writing letter
1868 from Woodstock Conn, in which he had charged the
Rev Henry Ward Beecher with being bad and adu
depressed my surprise any such charge that and
lie then and said that it only instance
but Bowen had charged him with and cited
although he did hot anybody tia, Is he named
ladies' am glad 10 but he lnsaDced two three
where Mr. Bowen had charged Mr. Beecher with having
mi,ted this oGense against good morals SC.
Q Well what next! A And he then said that Mr. Bowen
declared that Mr. Bceche ought not preach he
MI Tlon would bear open letter to him making demand
Of imI mean if he r Tilton) would write letter demand
ing Nj Bechera demand OF Nj Beecher his pulpit
and qvt Brooklyn he Mr. Bowen would bear open
him He said he wrote the letter and Bowen took when
he 10 Mr.. Beecher inseadI think he said instead
delivering open letter sealed it professed isno
ef s CONSENTS and then joined with Mr. against
him aud he put out OF his place AID s.dd he badly
treated but he determined his money
in doing he would revive tins old scandal which he regretted
lie said Mr. Beecher had also committed oense against him
AID HE family.
q State what he said a5out that. A lie told that at
time Mrs. TltOn him and stated she had
something serious 10 tell him sn I've asked her what
aEd she said that her pastor Ia his pastoral visits
their boG in her husbands absence lad
his position and made dsonorable proposal. her repeat
eddy aud she felt her dnty tell husband which she
had done. 10 hH surprise.
q Anything further said upon thai sub ect A. | ex.
pressed Of course, my surprise thing secause it was
new TO me
Mr. Hil-A little louder. Mr.. Nsman
The WDess-He said, understood, mmediatey-in that
I've in but he said he Moaton and
laid the matter before Fnk aud Mr. Beocher was summoped
10 Franks bOnse They went into private ROOM the three
think possible he said Frank ef after 20. in there
anS he remained and locked the door pat the key in hs
pocket and accused Mr. Beecher Of this grave odease
Q What grave Ofense' a. OF making these dishonoyabe
proposals. understood it, violating te-nakng dshopor.
abb proposals hs wife IN Lis absence thus taxing
Of his
Mr. TlLTON F0RGIyES MR.. BEECHER
@. PosjtionY A. position as pastor