New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-10
VATIOANISM.
DIR. NEwMAN'S SECOND REPLY TO MR..
GLADSTONE.

Nd
vance sheets of the most interesting passages
The rciouder of the distinguished oratorian IL ia
the form of a POSTSCRIPT 20 his Letter TO the
Duke OF Nofolk," and is very short, Filing no more
than twenty pages of open type lie goes
over the sections of his letter serlatm ana touches
upon Mr.. Gladstone's objections to each OF 'hcin III
turn entering upon no very elaborate arguments,
but giving his remarks characteristic point, clear
ness aud force, and preserving all through the calm
and courteous tone which is so pleasant and so rare
in controversial writings. The cable dispatch an
nouncng the publication of the Postscript" in
Loadon last Tuesday, informed lis that DR.. New
man quotes from vaTious authorities in order to
prove thar the Pope is hot ufalhbie ia sutleStlat-
ter in which the conscience rs of supreme authority
Therefore, he says, deadlock between the con
science and the Pope is impossible" We ind noth-
ing ike this rather remarkable declaration, now
ever, IN the pamphlet.
Dr. Newman begins with the following personal
remarks
FEE 20 1s75.-Mr. Glalstono's pamphlet. which
has stst appeared. Is only partially directed AGAINST te
forcElug lctter anu Wisn he remarks On Wa' NAV ~,
Thought 10 be uiisr 70 AIS arg ,ncnt Aoeoyer nc oO
noes with some pages &h1ut me peISohhliy Vi 50 ",
. character tiat, dare dwell upon tLem III taeT
diryci import, they woaid OF course satiy me eASsT
in iy But do because nelltvo Lh''i, WIN
tat seriousness which is chliac!eis'ic OF mn, ne as
wished say ieit 10 be true not what wa CON
plinert'ry ANA because, lovhnnS on ~ ; J n III n"
10 what tney imply, sc in theil tHUnsn nc ~. nU
addressed 10 me- whici eitecuaily keeps me nom taxing
pleasure in tAen however great Is tAe EOno. tn 10 ne
inicel a stern question Whicl MS WORDS SuEI'St;
~, 80, o,vht whatever talents God has ave II me- and
~ lie would Aad tht III, in bs.idns up A.
hgous truth aud not IN pulling down, bIe"Ihs up uht
from the day became Cainohc TO THIS day now ciSe
tri ~ years, have never had in0.1InIs ln,9;
my lEas TIE communion 81 koine IS that ChhfSh Wu,tn
the Apostles set up at Penec0st Which acne hs tn9
the revealed Jaw, end the service OF Eou ana 'Iio
proiuis s." and ia which the Anglican oOlihuulO, WAo
ever its merits ana dement's w'e CT Ae sIVS' 60
leuee OF ndN duais iA H. has, a. such, no part nor nave
i ever lnomont ECs.tatod in my conviction since
Church ~ did then join il, winch NY own
felt divine Persons and places tnci nts aud err
eumstan,4,s he which belong to HfSt IOItS your
years, deeply lodged Ia nay memory ana IN my alie.
lions moreover La hia I , To- Try 'u ISS mr. bI
never for moment have wished myself Doe never
abling Ia make the great change, ana never Lar nc
let icc fOrsikcn by Linn OF III distress or any XII
of RELIGIOUS trOnhiC not know how 10 AVOID thus
Ineet.u. Mr. GdstOacs Language about rae; bat can
sa, more. The judgment must Oe eit W " I'D! 10
lie stoutly defends the English and Irish Catholics
against the charge of deceiving the Government rs
10 the bearings of The question of n1alhbihiy upon
civil allegiance at the time of the Emancipation Act
and replies also to the point of his antagonist ihaI
the difference between the teaching Of the bishops
then and now is "a proof that the Church has
changed its DOCTRINE and thereby forfeited its elah
to be Seapeg edde1p :"
But It is no change surely 10 decide between two
prevalent opinions Dut il II II t. be 80 rc4"rdea I'm
change becn the characteristic Oi the tAucD non
Tie earliest times, instance ia the third century
the point OF the validity Of ba.tlsm by hereticS
And hence such change "a mas taken place lWhlch
should prefer call dUctIna dcveo meutl is ~ stil
q positive aFgimen mt III favor OF the Churcn's identity
from first to last fora growth Ill Us Greco If law o
it, lie.
Idle is it to tell us," said Mr.. Gladstone, chat
the Pope is bound by the moral and divine law, by
the commandments of God, by the rules OF the Cos
pei; for of these one and all the Pope hi4n-
- no nd with aung1lD Io
this Dr. Newman replies:
That is Mr. Gladstone thinks thst the Pope may dtny
and auatlelnatEe the Proposton " There Is one Cod
and may proceed 10 circulate by CalGnai AnioheIn
whole Syllabus Of kindred erroneous these ior the
Of the ssnG y5e G p5yes E d s m %
over Church. But let grant, FOR arg nelt sake,
Natura and the Revealed Law know what would DC
the consequence IA such Pope Caruntl Iurrecrelna;a
eommSnd ANYTHING atiIsi Holy scri rtdre, or tne
ccs faith the truth Of the saoginensS Or Inc con-
maids OF tc natural divine law, OAeht not 10 hc
obey Int in such commands to sn no'tL tsHpF' J..
o. VtAe,, Sna tNpy e haS t cac 6crcsy io eo
ceases " be Poe.
tie Qnotes "a passage from J. S. Mil to show that
"tiicre are writers who maintin doctrines which,
carried out consistently, would reach that deydMeG
tua that it is the right of any one 10 have liberty 10
give public uttcrance- III every possible shape, 10y
every possible channel, without any 1T or hinGranc'
from God or rna to all bis notions whateVerl, which
lhe Pope speaks Of ii they have not already reached
~ But the most important part OF the pamphlet Is
that relating TO the obligations Of the syllabus:
have said that the sglabas is 20 be received nom the
Pore with profound subiSsiop," r. lu2, and bY "a
ut, Of Obcdcnce, loo; add " but h3t OF faitn Icr
has dO1natic force. maintain this still ray,
in epite of PROT Schultz and the English Catholic wrter
a. yhOm Mr.. Gladstone refers, y. 81, have - niEcl
r2ut To maintain that the implicit condaniaiion with
~ @ act e T OF the nt abby cG az nave cs a
;CulOElais bishop Fcslor speaks Who calls Ito no5-
ate force III question, lesler p lU7. DO not Know
Fesser Himself says OF IL more tn ina" IA 10 ne
received with sabnlisson and obedience d" rot deny
uOthers rgni u consider Al IL Is iNn.e con r'"t< an
~ infablhty or 10 say, IN MI Gisdst"hes ""'s J.
which inftlhOlty can SPEAK ohiy o.! iht. i|9
rgn think Otherwise And when the fo9e D.! Itttcr
proves writer who write-ene WY and ~ another
VITO writes in Another ne makes neither doSilc nllt
b,tn allowable. mir. Gladstone sleks rs Ia WIitt thc
?oe says fr Slrad uld0rs what re S@ys 10 bI,h"P
lcr; why not sy lis letter Ia fossler neutrGiiles
LIS ktter 70 seri,erf repeat when speak o. mini
DOGMA Hion, II ;hcy wil nay nitluze ior NO. pro-
v.ted they too Keep from dog7natziug This IL my posi-
al through these discussions, ard must DO Acpt III
mind ~ any air rteiS,Ief.
grant Inc Pope lad great stress tie Syllaous;
ccI.di;' cannot teii w.cticr cir eoc1, OF In Titn
anyhow this did iIerese win iesseI's grive ac-
teach dogulatcally and iufailiby. Moreover, how
eau let Of pfo5' rl"d propositions I've rug, e.
are coidennod and those ailOcuUns, when we tam
T.. them We nnd IN what s.sc and wilma; degree
iorce 81, orally in itsclf the syllabus
than what in" Pope call" II, syla ~ or crectCh o.
errors d by the references inserted in It 10 the aOcj
TONS &c. have vcntued 70 call IL something more,
viz a list index rasoaRe de3 not attached 10 II
By ALL for Pce Daniel iit the OCTOBER ~ that
very ,er 1867, tells il t4e EtIdcs BtcGscs," Al
Sgatls liaeDts Ja,t pas demq'dcr qe ie 6cJfe dc
eJrc qac c0rient bOHe t0tFC 1tS qtd,tee L. 'i}
jut whether index or not. and Though 1t h"Nea
SUBSTANTIVE character IL Is IT least cle;'f that me Only
way III when II can ho RUE OF tea"his - ny itS9
telling what avoid; ana tis consideration Will
explain what ] 10y 'ing II wit! obedience,
which to persons is diHcalt idea when contnscd
9Th accepting 1T WITH faIth observe, taan Tat u.'e-
1iehco il concerned with doing but faith witt affirming
Vow wnen we are told ~ AVOID certain propositions We
re told primarily and directly not 10 DO s)netlIEi