New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-17
THE SCANDAL DOCUMENTS SHOWN BY Mr. TILT0N
TO MRS. Woodruff. a

THE SCANDAL DOCUMENTS SHOWN BY Mr. TLION
TO MRS Woodruff a
Q. Did you soon after that have an interview with
Mrs Woodruff which Mr. Tion was persent' A. Yes, Sir
O. And was the name OF Mr. Beeche BROUGHT at that inter
view' A. Yes Sir
O. Did yon occasion refer in conversation, In the
presence Ton other conversations you had with
Nrs. Woodruff on that same subject.
Mr. Beach-That objected leading and as asking for
q conclusion We may well have the conversation.
Judge Nelson-You will have ohsye It, doubtless
Mr. Beach submit il is not admissible for them ask those
leading questions calling for the result Of what was said at this
interview.
Judge NelsOn-I think will take this answer as prelimin
Mr. shearman-That Is all
q In which you had In the presence OF
Mrs Woodruff Tton previous conversations
which you had with Mrs wodhul concerning Mr. Beeche re-
ferred to- A. They combinations Of
Mr. Beaci-Wai moment.
Mr. Morns-Counsel averred moment they didn't e1
pect to make that material by this witness.
Mr. Byarts-I didn't know anything about that
Judge Neilson-He that question, yes or no.
Mr. Bcsch-Now Sir does not the hesitation OF the witness
demonstrate necessity Of having what was said at that timer
Ia nc al liberty say conclusion from the conversation,
that previous subject matter or conversation was referred TO-
Judge Neson-It merely Introductory in what may fol-
low
Mr. Beach-Inroduc.ory, II your Honor please. They are
asked this witness whether in that conversation where they
have the parties together any reference made to
previous conversation Now submit 10 your Honor that can
be acerned only taking what TRANSFERRED at the interview
where they have got them together.
Judge NcsonThat is true and yet II proper question
You whether interview had and whether at
that interview pretended referred to- and then
ask for the conversation
Mr. Beach-Ccranly take it usually without objection,
in this instance and especially admonshed some
nv answering the
ton asked 1t is not competent to take his concu
son on the subject should the language by which the
reference made
Judge Neson-e nay answer and unless he gives the Ian
glage it will be stricken out
Mr. Shearman-The witness knows there were many con-
yersstions and therefore Lis hesitation natural
Mr. Morris-Counsel moment ago ayerred they didn't ex
pect to make that material by this witness.
Mr. you think is right to state that again. when
Iapoogzod Court and the public for at'
Mr. Mor.is-I know you did and accepted it.
Judge NelsonLe the senographer repeat the question
TIE TRIBUNE stenogapler read the question follows:
ain this conversation which you had in the Of Mrs
which you had with Ms Woodruff concerning Mr. Beecher re-
fcrred to"t
Icanno swear there was any reference to the for
rner conversations.
O. State the conversation which took place when Mr. Tton
was present. A. Do you want the words'
Mr. Shearman-The substance OF the words,
Jsdge Nesoa-The words as you can give them.
recollect them.
The wtness-I would be pretty ncu for to separate
series OF Conversations and tell what occurred in each In
stance They are all on one subject
Judge Nelson To the witness The inquiry was what was
said on this OCCASION you give the words far as you can
and the substance Of them when You cannot give the words
MIR Beach, hope the gentleman will be instructed TO dis
criminate between the conversations
Judge Neson-fTo witness Conane yourself to this
conversation A Mrs Woodruff urged me to write up the
Beccher scandal She said: Tom why don't take hold
OF this Beechcr scandar think that was Substantially the
language ] said 20 her then
Nj Shearman-A little louder Mr. Cook said TO her that
attempt write such story third parties repre-
sentaton should involve paper In flood OF libel suits
that newspaper would undertake such job She re-
piled that IL necessary take third parties statements
She says "Theodore has aud documents In the
case have them and he will show them TO yon then
replied didn't want such matter and would not it
under any and there no Of my under
taking the job replied that II the greatest
sensation Of the age that 1t would take the roof of
Plymouth Church and shake Brooklyn Heights to its
foundation II would reyouiionze modern society; that 1t
accusation that paper would be glad to get hold Of
thsi would have trouble in finding market for IT,
replied that | was not In the habit Of hawking my material
around the streets and didn't to take hold OF this
don't that 90; definitely at the couvesation
than that
@ understand this have taken place about the last of
November 1917
place
The witncss-I cannot fix the date OF IT, excepting with
reference " that steiuway Hall meeting
Mr. Ieach-whst the last answer'
Mr. shearnan-Except with reference TO the Stenway Hall
meeting
The Wjtness-EIcep with reference TO the Steinwsy Hall
meeting is the only way FIX any date 1t some days
sfter that meeting
O And near that period
N, Fnleron He docs not state that
Do Won not say Ii days after the stenway Hall
,.ss,s, A Some days. within week after, should say
O About week DO you remember any more o 'ha' eoh
,.r..,,c., A. think that is the substance
Was ANYTHING further said on this subject on any suose
80, orc,,,oo in Mr. Tlton's presence A. Yes Sir.
O More than once Yes SIR 'nihH Ai'e 'n' 0''''''"
u Vas matter
Mr. Beach-Wait
TIE wilness-of frequent oonversaion-
Mr. Beach-Wsit moment
O. IL was matter Of frequent conversation n io' ,
Was anything said In the presence OF Mr. Thton OF w "
Triton about your wrng up for any ohef pHDsI A.
ilsk iksSs a.