New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-30
Mr.. TnToN CRrriClsEs GEN. TRACY.


O. You were also before the Committee the night
he presented the sworn statement A. Yes.
O. Were you present also at his discrimination! A.
Yes.
@. When was that-when did that occur' A. Well, the
hrs-it commenced the Goth and it ended the cd
O. call your attention TO the 22d, think it was-at all
events call your attention to OCCASION II you were pres
ent when Mr. Tton attacked Mr. Tracy? A. Ny impression
is that that was on the 3d. that is my impression about it,
O. On the 23di A. Yes.
O. Did you hear that attack A Yes.
O. WHAT was saidi A. We had-it in the afternoon
had an afternoon session that day. regular session.
an informal meeting
Mr. Beach, do not understand, Sir the importance OF ths
evidence and l object to II.
Judge Neison-we cannot very well tell what win be
until we hear it; think will have to hear 1t.
Mr. Bcachwe gave evidence whatever Of any attack by
Mr. Tilton upon Mr.. Tracy before the Committee.
Judge Neilson-We it Is conversation with the plaintiff,
and think therefore must take it.
MIR Ieach-It does follow Sir because II
ton with the plaintiff upon subject totally foreign and rree
want to this Issue that 1t should be taken.
Mr. Tacy-It is not irrelevant it is the subject
Mr. Morris-e il calling for personal difficulty now.
Mr. Eyarts-Oh no.
Mr. Tracy-Lsten to the evidence and you win it's
teraty.
Mr. Blackwell, 60 on
The Wncss-There had been regular session that after
noon that say regular testimony taken, and think
he SteuOgrapher
separang-it was quite late in the aftenoOn-when Mr.
Triton Suddenly burst out sitting you and opposite you
TO this effect "M Tracy you have right to be here in col
son with me; you made me promise wheni You
first knew this case, that II and Mr.. Beeeher came
in collision you would not appear against me-" You
answered. YES but when you changing your ground
changing from Of improper advances TO the main
charge notified you that that promise would not bind me-
and ought not to-" Mr. Tion answered that that did moi;
make any difference you had made the promise and you were
bound by it, That idea repeated there in various FORMS
and you both got talking pretty loud and showed some excite
ment Then after that stormy conversation II charsc
erize II, you went the front paor speak to
gentlemen and / also went there with some others.
In q moment Mr.. Tilton in, looking very
sweet and pleasant and said: "Tracy, forgive you,
like you better any in Brooklyn" He put his
arm on your shoulder partly around neck and think
you'll quite whether You said anything about for
giveness notbu you looked goodnatured Laugh
teri
Judge Neison-The audience will have TO keep quiet Do
not signify that II pleases you or dispesses you.
The Wtness-Mr Tilton then said that the difference be-
tween you and him that he sometimes did wrong and
asked forgiveness and sometimes did wrong and never d
ask forgiveness think you then shook hands and efe was
general laugh all around Mr. Tton then LETT and tefe was
some laugh after he left.
Was there ANYTHING eaid there that occasion by Mr.
Tracy as TO what the nature Of his charge against Mr.
Beecher at the time he stated 1t TO me ana got
that promsef A. 1t repeatedly referred TO as case OF
improper advances that to say you put So and ne DID
DENY IT, but claimed that made difference That was his
position that you were bound.
@ Did Mr. Tracy also say TO him that whether was bound
under the circumstances was a matter Of judgmenti
Mr. Blackwell that lie all improper, Sir putting occasions
in that form.
The Wtness-Oh, yes
O. Well was there anything said by Mr. Tracy that time
ss 10 whether that was Of judgment whether the
promise under the binding no' A. Yes
that was said think you said also that you had not acted
without considering IT, and asking other opinions or other
views
O. Views of other lawyers on the subjectf a fes
NJ Tracy-You may examine, gentlemen