The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-06

OF pastoral character. was tlsfe any ooi ~,
sation o. tnat cnaracterS A. Between me anu
q. Between you and Mr. Tnton2 A. No, SIR
q. WIS anrthIug SAID TO YOU by Mr.. lllfon OF
THIS nature-rhat Mrs. Morse VS. IN me story ia
mi, way: that she was saving, among ner i,lenis
and family that theodore was maxim such anu
such charges against Elizabeth, ma tnat MS
method making them was very latal way oi
propagat ny the charges themselves.
Mr. Beocner-I do not remember any such con-
versation; it would be almost impossible Tor the
statement not 10 be remembered II made; do not
think the substance gorout OF tue question cams
up in tnat way; the statements made oy Mrs.
Morse as 30 what she had heard against Mr.. TllLon
were various, but tney were ut IN sucn way tnat
/ cannot give them dennlteness.
o. Whatever may or may not have been SAID In
regard TO the propagation OF the stories. was
T. said to you elmer by Moniton OF Iil ,,,n
that the story OF your criminal relation WIN
Mrs. Tilton was being circulated by MIS- Morsei
A. Mr.. nlton or Mr.. Mouiton never told me ina,
the story that had criminal intercourse with mel
daughter, was uelng circulated by MIS-. MoIse|
they never told me ANYTHING OF ths Kina ! aecci
remember an interview before that date Wnlcn'
had with Mr.. Moulton at his house: -.
q. Was the subject whether Mr.. Bowen Woulu
restore Mr.. Hilton to his position on the Indepeno-
emf broughC up In that interview
Judge Nellson-I would ask whether anything
said upon that subject and, II so, what. Ii ID
BY MIR. Evarts-Was there anything said, Mr..
Beecher at this as 70 wne[neT tS o.
Independent? A. don't recall 1t In connection
with that interview.
ID.
view as you do reccolecCP A. don't know, sir;
don't remember wnat the commencement was
1 remember the substance OF ~
q. Well. were Mr.. ltltonis relations or expecta
tons IN regard 10 the Independent mace supjec
oil conversation?
Mr.. Bedcn-At that In tervewH
Mr.. Evarts-At that interview.
Tne Witness-At that interview my own impress
sion - that tney were not. 49,
Q. Well, was anything said about any othes
papers9 A. Yes, sir.
O. What was thar A. Well; the Golden Age was
then unQer discussion; that lilton was going "a
have paper Tor himself was the keynote, and II
was deslrable-shail go on.
o. Yes go on A. | don't pretend to give the
oraer OF thought nor language, out ne BODY OF ths
interview OF the discussion was that Mr.. Tilton
must have organ Tor himself: he saan't oa
V0lceless nor pu out and win my influence and
that OF my trends and Of MS trends u journal
could DE established; ana If we were TO stanc
together uniteuly aud n ! would sincerely 9nt
cordially aid, everything might be accom- pisheo
that was desirable: at tnat IN terview ne expressed
more July what he mad lntlmatea at several; thai
ONE GREAT HINDRANcE TO TILToN's HAPPINESS
and ease oil working was, that EhZaG eth didn't do
her part at home. and mat she was disconnected
and sullen, and That It was Impossible 70 expect
man OF genius-and MI. Moulton spoke OF Mr. I'll.
ton as man OF geniuS-lO WORK all day, tor he
SAID 'Is it not grand, tnat he mas just gone over
there and taken or MS coat and begun 10 WORK
rlght at the bottom az IN. as II he nad never mad
position and Is trying 10 earn Els Dread ~ he
spoke OF IL as Impossible tor nan OF genius 10
return home at NIGHT, am nnd MS VIE
crying, or sitting at the mead o. the liable
sGen and din nne9aversape aqa tpst
the easiest man TO be lea by MS affections that
ever lived; Elizabeth can 90 ANYTHING vita him.
and she must DO ner part, and you must help to
MAKE her that was the general form OF the conn
sell ana then ne suggested tnat 10 unity ourselves,
10 take away all irIctlOn, and to give TO ths new
enterprise tue advantage o. perfect unity o ieei.
ing AID counsel, lt would be god tning L.
should write q letter 70 min tAonltonl Tor ann 70
show to Mr.. 11ton e2 resslve- committing
myself on paper TO the expression OF my cOrdLhty
toward him, and also letter 70 Mrs. 1lton. with
wnom i mad influence, he said,
than any nving oelng, Ia order TO oslne
would be concurrent win nv counsel and iudg.
menIs and so tine family would be brought IN and
Mrs. hilton would make a happy home Tor him.;
would nelp hun, Frank would help and iriendi
would hello him, and with n1s power and eXpert
ence ana SKIN ne would nave journal tat w9uo
WASH. an unwlse plan; wrote the letters 10 MIN
and 60 her, and put them IN Mr. Moulton's hands.
u. Now you nave spoken heretofore. Mr. Beecner,
or Mr.. Moultons saying that the proper thing 70
be done, TO be aimed az, was that MIR. Bowen
P-evtous to Ihis conversation which you now
speak OF, had you heard In any Way from MI
had or mad not been abandoned A. He told me
In the interview lollowIn! ms interview with MT.
Bowen that he had made that suggestion 70 Mr..
Bowen and that Mr.. Bowen had not elected IL,
but SAID ne didn't see how now Il could De-noW
.. Yes, and this had preceded your converse
tion ABOUT the new paper a. T6at was ga, con;
versatlon somewhere aoout we lz.h OF lS'n' anu
Mr.. Evarts lasidel-Now these letters, what
are tne numbers Of tnemf We have got them
10 witness-Q. Now Mr. Beecher, there was q
tnrd letter or Mr.. Iilton 10 Mr.. Moulton.
10 counsel tor deence-Can have those let
III. Norris-wnat are the uumOerss
MI. Porrer-NIne ten, and eleven.
Mr.. Eyarrs-tsnowlng papers 70 witnesg-
Please say u those are tue two letters wnlcl yoa
wroteY A. Yes sir; that one pndicatingl; TINS
Que TO Mr.. luton also. -
q. Now mere IS a tnlrd letter rom Mr. Iilton 70
Nj. Mou ton u the sa &c Gate Please LOOK AZ tnat
and whether you saw That az or ab ,ot the Time
OF Its date waen or tne nfs.Y A. cal't say
certainly-though ! tmnk-wuetner saw IL I'M
rafv mar W m
Interview following tue writing these Letters.
O. No interview N wnca tue third was, you
D Ana your letters. your two letter.. were
written independently OF seeing thlss A. Yes, sir,
o. Tals letter, Mr. Beecner 70 mrs. Triton, beg,ns
Ia tolls way-"My dear Mrs. luton, when saw you
DIDN'T EXPECT EVER TO SEE You AGAIN
or 10 be alive many days. God va kinder 70 me
tnan were my own tnougnlsw when was Iae
mad seen Mrs. rlt0nS A. ] suppose nadnit seen
her since the interview q December 30.
Q. Yes ven tnat is your rec H. ctonf A. That
is NV reconectlon Of the purport OF TINS opening
Q. And Or The fact that you hadn't seen heri
o. Ana YOU used this expression. .'wnen saw
you last don't expect ever to see you again, or
IL be ahve many days." waat was there IN your
situation that led you 70 pave an nm oressl on o.
ness Of notn our lives, 81; she looked 70 me Ike
one ALREADY Despogen Ior By God's angels; ~ tnt
EXCITEMENT IL dldn'g seem 70 me could livs
long.
o. Ana in that view A. was OF her life and youi
own feelings that you wrote that expressonf A.
Yes. sir.
o. To concluding this letter, Mr.. Beecher you say,
sTnls Is sent with TneOdore's consent, but he has
not read Il :" was that TACT, as you understood
IL, that Mr. Hilton mad not read the letter. A.
Yes SIR; understood 10 20, out that close was the
suggestion OF Mr.. MOuton.
q. Well, was going 70 the next sentence
ssWlll you return tt 10 me ny his hand 1 am very
earnes IN TINS wish Tor ain our saEes for your let
ter GU cut 70 be subject 10 even the chance OF
MISCARRIAGE Was that clause the subject OF
conversation between you and Mr.. Mou on 10 tbs
preparation OF tue letter, or IN devIsIng the let
teri A. IL was.
gestion Of his, wnicl carried out; can give you
the reasons stated
q. aied by Mr. Moulton A. Yes, sir.
y. Well, what did he say in that connection A
can't We you what ne said can give you what
he suggested.
ID Weltg A. That Elizabeth w0uld likely not re-