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Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1875-10-16
WOULD NOT BE WITHOUT
vECETiNE
FOR TEN TIMES ITS COST,

FOR TEN TIMES ITS COST.
The great benefit have received from the use of
Negetlne induces me to give my testimony in its
favor believe 1t To be not oniy OF great valae for
restoring The health but a pre-, entive of diseases
would not be without it for ten times its cost
EDWARD TILDEN,
Attorney and General Agent for Mas. achusett of
the Crattsnens s Life Assurance Company, No. AZ
Sears Building, Boston, Mass.
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AUGUSTA POST OFFIC l..

OFFICE HOURS.
For delivery Of letters, from 100 \. NJ. TO $50
P. NJ.
Or SUNDAYS. from OILS A. NJ to lo.l, A. VI.
ARRIVAL and DEPARTURE OF MAILS
Mails ARRIVE.
Boston, Portland. aud West 3'S' A. Nj 400 and
3.lj p. NJ. =,
Bsth and Rockland, 4.05 and S.l5 T. NJ.
Rocklard stage, via Washington, P: NJ
Waleoboro Stage, via jefferson, Z. NJ
Belgrade, West Waterviiie' Norfiase"ocA al"
Madison, l.30 r. NJ.
Winthrop and Monmouth, 6 P. NJ:
Pennington stage via Readfeld, 81 T. VI.
Belfast IL .O5 A. NJ. and lo.51 Z. NJ.
belfast stage, ll00 A NJ.
Skowhegan ll.05 A ii.
Grand Trunk II. r. and Canada io] and s.
ID p NJ.
Soldiers Home IL A. NJ. and L. NJ
MAILS CLOSE.
Portland Boston and West, 6 and 100 y. NJ, 10
M.
Lewiston and Auburn, 6, 500, ll.OO A. Nj.
Bath And Rockland, G, and ll0O A. NJ.
Rsckland stage, via Washington, ~ A. ~
Waldoboro' stage, via Jefferson 90 A. NJ.
belgrade. West Waterville, Noridgewock' and
W;nthron and Monmouth, 500 A. NJ.
Farminxton stage via Readfeld. l.3o +. NJ.
Belfast 400 p. NJ. and 1000 Z. NJ
Belfast stage, 400 +. Nj.
Skowhegan, 400 I. NJ NJ.
Grand Trunk II. r. and Canada, 6. ii 100 y. M
Soidiers' Home, 7 A. NJ. and 400 Z. NJ.
DOMESTIC PosTAGEI
Drop Letters, per IL OF. l cent.
Mail Letters per l-2 o., cents.
Books transient newspapers, circulars, ana
other transient printed matter, merchanaise, ana
samples, in packages not exceeding IDS I'D
weight, per ounce, cent.
al matter not prepaid at letter rates must be so
wrapped that it can be examined, ana must con-
tain no writing whatever, except the address.
LIQUIDS glass and explosive chemicals are ex-
cluded from the mails.
FOREIGN POSTAGE.
ON and after July lst, 1875, postage on letters to
any country of Europe except France, cts. per :.
MONEY ORDER OFFICE.
Esnecial attention is called to the Money Order
svstsm as a safe and cheap method OF transmitting
small sums of money through the mails; Orders
are ssued for amounts not exceeding Soo. Larger
smonnts can be sent to the same person at the
,ame time by additional orders.
RATES.
Orders not exceeding $l5, ~ i0cen's
over $l5 and not exceeding Soo' 80 40
$50 " " S40, ~
$40 f." Soo, %
Money orders are also drawn by this Office on
Great Britain, Germany, and Switzerland.
rEaIsTERED LETTERS.
Jetters. and other valuable packages, may be
regstered to any post-ofice in the United States,
on the payment of letter postage ana Zee o, NJ ten
cents. uOhACE H.
july 1875.
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Kennebec Savings Bank.
This Bank is not required to make
returns to Assessors.

TetNThs 10 AsktSBOTSs
DEPOSITS made on or before the l0th day of any
month ,ciU be dated back TO tie fret day Of Ms
same month.
On First Monday in May and November of each
wear Il dividend will be made on all deposits stand
ing at those dates, which have been on deposit one
fun month
Money deposited in Savings Banks is not to be
taxed TO depositors hereafter.
Dividends as soon as declared are added to the
principal thus compounding the inter- st every six
months.
Loans made to .depositors on deposiling their
Bank Book as security.
Office Ina Freemans Rank Building.l
+. II. ADAMS, Treasurer.
w. +. HALLETT. President.
Augusta. Jan. 2S, 1875. jana9-t&wa
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GARDINER ACCOMMODATION TRAIN.
Maine Steamship Company.
Line to New York.
Steamers eIeanora, franconia and
Chesapeake

NA Will, until further notice leave
A&AM Franklin Wharf, Portland ev-
=GaEA4 cry MONDAY, THURSDAY and
SATURDAY,, at O'Clock z.
NJ, and leave Pier3S East River, New York, every
MONDAY, WEDNESDAY and THURSDAY at
O'Clock P. NJ.
The Eleanora is new steamer inst built for this
route and both she and the Franconia are htIed up
with une accommodations for passengers, maxim,
this the most convenient and comfortable route
for travellers between New YORK and Maine
These steamers will touch at Vineyard Uaven dur.
ing the summer months on their passage TO and
from New York.
Passage in State Room, $500. Meals extra.
Goods forwarded to and from Philadelphia
Montreal, Quebec, st. John, and all parts OF Maine
Aar Freight taken at the lowest rates.
Shippers are requested to send their freight TO the
steamers as early as z. NJ, on the days that they
leave Portland. For further Information apply to
HENRY FOX General Agent, Portland.
J.F. AMES, Agent, Pier 3S East River Ny.
Tickets and state rooms can also be obtained al
% Exchange street.
Portland, 1874. iuly24-ttf
Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1875-10-16

Issued every morning, except sundays. 1t con-
aims the latest news by telegraph ana mail, gives
cports of the Markets, and has carefully prepared
political and local article, ana Il generous amount
Of farming, home and miscellaneous reading with
full compilation of state news.
Terms, 81 per dnnuH, an atcaace IS if payment
not made within the year. Single copies scents,
he had at the bookstores and mt this Office.
Advertisements Inserted on reasonable terms.
i;atcs may he had on application at this otiee.
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Maine Central kaiirGae
CHANGE OF TIME.

On and after Monday, June 21st, 1875,
trains will leave Augusta
For Portland and Boston, 600, ll.al \. NJ and
1857 p. NJ.
For Rockland, c. 90, II O5 A. NJ.
For FarminA ton, III .05 A. NJ.
For Bath, Lewiston and Portland, G.Go II % A.
NJ, 800 r. NJ.
For Waterve and Sk0whegan, 40 p. NJ.
For Waterville, Belfast, Dexter ana Bangor, 3.35
A. NJ, 4l0 p. NJ.
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FILLED CENTRE
SQUARE SHAWLS

.4Ha in tie sane p<Up02Ifou II tie
RneSi q"alities impaired.
In this c0lieciioU WiX also be /ouUa
an immense ,u2IcIp Of STRIPE /0dia
,MaHlS, Hhich WiU be oHeaea at the
same great reduction IN prices, COM
MenciH.g at so, ami adpanciRg in
ralHe SCI To SO e0ch, Up To Tie Aigh-
est g,udes Which h01e c,rl bcen pre-
Se0/ed.
Z09ieS UiU HUa tie uIoye .10OaS
IOB'e7' in currency nun the IoWeS/
UhoIeSale prices in GoldiV HW1Upe.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
Narrow Guape Railroads.


Whatever railroad men may think about
the comparative advantages of the ordi-
nary and narrow gauge tracks for freight
exclusively or general business on great
routes Of travel, there is no doubt that
roads built on the narrow gauge principle
can be used to great profit in new and in
mountainous regions where il would not
pay to build railroads on the old plan
The Monterey and Salinas City L. r. in
California affords an excellent illustra-
ton of this fact. The farmers along the
line built the road themselves and put in
operation. They had previously made
calculations from which they learned
that the people who would be accOmmO-
dated by it were paying $500 per an
mum for the transportation of their crops
to tide water. They ascertained that for
less than this sum they could build a mar
row gauge road from the Salinas plains
to Monterey, a distance of 49, miles, to-
gether with wharf at MOterey and sui
table warehouse. The result of their ell
terpise is that they get their grain car
ried 70 tide water for 50: % per tun in
stead OF paying So: 80 as they had been
doing, which is saving to them of $685.
600 the first year of the roads existence.
The experience of these California far
mers proves that under favorable cOndi-
tons a narrow gauge road can be and
has been built and equipped for less mon
ey than would have been paid by the peo-
pie of the district through witch it runs
| for freight alone in a single year.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

EB- On Monday last the mail brought
us Il suspicious looking document, and
upon removing the outside envelope a
beautiful monogram GEE" stamped in
gilt upon the inside envelope excited
our curiosity. An inside card read as
follows; "Mr. and Mrs. b. II. Epper-
son, request the pleasure of your COM
pany at the marriage ceremony of their
daughter at the Cumberland Presbyte-
rian Church, jefferson, Texas, Thursday
evening, Jan. 9TH, 1876 at eight O'Clock"
Another read, "Mr. and Mrs. b. II. Ep-
person Mt home Thursday evening, Jan.
9TH, 1873, at o'clock" Two others
united with silken tie revealed in let
tiers of gold the names of the charming
and lovely Miss Eugenia Epperson, and
the genial and popular J. M. Ezell. SO
tonight our friend Money will launch
his barque on the sea of matrimOny.
May he and his lovely bride have a
pleasant sail and Joyous entrance at
the end into the port of perpetual bliss.
Our friend viii. 5. Ezeu and his sister,
Miss Mildred, left here on Sunday night
last TO be present at the nuptials. We
also wish them a pleasant and safe trip
We regret our inability to be present,
but now give notice to our friend, the
bridegroom, that we win come the next
time, If he will give us little EARLIER
notice, so that we can make the neces-
sary arrangements.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
ADDRESSED TO DIR. A.


Dear Doctor, let il not tran~pire
How much your lecture we admire,
How at your eloQ aence We wonder,
When you explained the cause of thunder,
OF lightning and ciec;ri.ity. q
With 40 much piaiLne@s ani a nplicity;
be origin o. rocks and mountains,
q seas and rivers, la e- and fountains
OF lain and hail and frost aud snow,
And all the storms and winds that blow;
Beaides hundred womb r. more.
tlf which We never heard before.
But now, dear Doctor, not 70 hatter,
There is a most i'm portant ulatter,
\ matter hich our thought run much on
matter which you never touched on,
subject, ii We right conjecture,
That well serves u long, long lecture,
w Inch all the LADIES would approve
The NATURAL liIsToRY % Low
Deny US not. dear Doctor a.,
- listen We cnti eating pray
Tell us why our poor, tender hearts
So ensily admit 10 9e's darts;
Teach N the marks OF loves beginning
What makes US think beau SO winnings
What makes us think coxcomb witty,
Il black coat wise, a red coat prettys
Why We believe sueh horrId lies,
I hat we are angels from the skies,
Our teeth like pearl. our cheeks like roses,
Our eyes like stars such charming noses!
Explain our dreams, awake and sleeping;
Explain our blus hing, laughing, weHplng;
Teach VI. dear Doctor, il you can,
To humble that proud creature, man
TO turn the wise ones into fools,
The proud and insolent TO tools;
To make them all run, helter- SHELTER,
Their necks into the marriage halter
/ Then leave Us TO ourselves with these,
Wen turn and rule them AS we please.
Dear Doctor, ii you grant our wishes,
We promise you five hundred kisses;
And rather than the atfair be blundered,
Wen give you six score 70 the hundred.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

The n. Y. Sun says. One of the
causes to which may be attributed
the CONSPICUOUS failure of Grants
Administration is that the President
has slight misconception in regard
to the natuI of our Government and
of his own office. When the ignor-
ance of public affairs which distin-
guished Gen. Grant when he was
first elected President is considered
and that ignorance is not to be
wondered at by those who know the
character of his pursuits, that he
should have fallen into an error which
has had unfortunate results. That
error is, that while, according to the
theory of our Government, the Presi-
dent is a servant of the people, chO-
sen and paid to execute the laws
which are passed by their represen-
tatives in Congress, Grant appears
to believe that the President is mas
ter of both people and Congess; that
his duty is to execute his own will,
so that, instead of its being his prov
ince to execute the laws, his high pc
sition gives him the power to disre-
gard and violate them with impuni-
ty. This will fully explain many
acts of the President, which, without
a knowledge of his peculiar views,
would seem to be in comprehensive.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

When Il paper comes into a mans
house, it should be for the benefit
of that mans family as well as him
self, and to that end should contain
matter which they can understand,
and can read with profit and enjoy
ment.
No journal should be a perpetual
funeral sermon or undertaker's cata-
logue, reminding one of all the gloom
and none Of the pleasures Of life;
man is naturally fitted for enjoy
ment and such gift should no more
be despised than any other. No man
cares to bore his family with either
philosophy or ancient history; and
even were he so disposed, his family
might object to being bored; and so
an object intended to benefit his
household only mystifies them and
succeeds in doing nothing else
So we intend to make our paper
appreciated by, all classes, and so
companionable that child can find
IN it a source of pleasure and profit.
To that end, we will make it truly a
home journal.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

The exceeding inclemency of the
weather last Thursday evening preven-
ted many of our citizens, especially the
ladies, from attending the lecture OF
DIR. Alternately upon electrical Phe-
nomena" before the Pulaski Lyceum ;
but those who attended were amply re-
paid for any Inconvenience they may
have suffered. This powerful agency,
with all of its healing, purifying and
vivifying influences upon animal life
and upon the air we breathe, as well as
its terrible power for destruction in the
tornado, the earthquake and volcano,
was elucidated with a perspicuity of
thought, an elegance of dictiOn, and Il
grace of delivery, which at once rank
the Doctor as a gifted scientific lecturer.
He dwelt with peculiar interest upon
the analogy between electricity and
what is called nerve force in man, and
thinks that future investigation will
prove their identity, and that science
will eventually control it as a powerful
healing and curative agent. He dis
carded the old theory of a molten mass
under the earth, and attributes the phe-
nOmena of earthquakes and volcanoes to
the same agent which produces the
liehtning's flash and the destructive
tornado. We cannot enter into a re-
view of the lecture. 1t occupied a field
too vast and went into science too pro-
foundly for a hasty newspaper article.
Those who missed it lost a rare intellec-
tUal treat.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
a Philadelphian has invented a m

A Philadelphia has invented a mo-
tive power which promises TO revolu-
tiOnize the mechanical interests of the
world. 1t is a secret, but is said to be
some process for setting free the gases
contained in water, producing a pres
sure of 1000 pounds to the square inch.
a few gallons off water will supply a
prodigiOus motive power indefinitely.
Ii the invention proves a success, there
will be little use for coal, and it is diff
cult to conceive of the results to rail-
road, steam boat, and ali interests requir-
ing motive power. The name of the
inventor is J. w. Kelley, and the names
of number of well-known capitalists
and engineers are mentioned who have
been convinced of the success of the in
vention. Patents are being taken out
all over the world.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
Don't Criticfse.

critic. We don't mean q newspaper
one, but in private life, in the domestic
circle, in society. 1t will not do any
one any good, and it will do you harm
if you mind being called disagreeable.
If You don't like any ones nose, or OBJ
ject to any ones chin, don't put your
feelings into words. If any ones man
ner don't please you, remember your
own. People are not all made to suit
one taste, recollect that. Take things
as you find them, unless you can altar
them. Even a dinner, after it is swal-
lowed, cannot be made any better. Con-
tinual fault-finding, continual criticism
of conduct of this one and the speech of
that one, the dress of the other, and the
opinions of t'Other, will make home the
unhappiest place under the sun.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

Some Tennessee farmers have inststu-
ted "beef clubs" Sixteen members are
required, each one of whom furnishes a
beef about two years old, which is fatten-
ed in the order provided for il by draw
of lots at the commencement of the sea-
son. At the appointed time the animal is
slaughtered, the meat is divided into six
teen portion, and each member is charg-
ed with his portion, the owner being
credited with the whole proceeds. At the
end of the season accounts are balanced,
and those who owe balance pay it over
TO those to whom balance is due. The
clubs are convenient and successful.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
DYSPEPSIA.

Dyspepsia is tho most discouraging and
distressing disease man is heir to. Ameri-
cans are particularly subject to this disease
aud its eftects such sour stomache, sick
headache, habitual costiveness, heartburn
water -brash, gnswing and burning pains 1
the pit Of the stomach, coming up of the
food, coated tongue, disagreeable taste in the
mouth, impure blood, and ali diseases of the
Blood and Liver. Two doses of GREENS
AUeusT FLOWER viii relieve you at once, and
there positively is not a case in the United
States it III not cure. If you doubt this, 20
to your druggists Sumpter IL Lacey, and get
sample bottle for 10 cents and try it.
Regular size IS cents. dSleowy
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

Country merchants, or country farm
ers, or country doctors, or country law
yers, or country women, or country
people OF any age, or sex, or trade, OF
profession, could not possibly lose any
thing, and might make it exceedingly
profitable to call on Winstead, Shields
Il Co., Nashville, when they visit that
city. This house deals I'm everything
from flSh-hook to a steamboat, at re-
tail or wholesale, at their own price OF
at yours. You can get suit of clothes
paper of pins, a carpet or bread-tray
a thimble or a stock of goods, a spool o,
thread or a family outfit, at panic pri-
Nns
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
ReIigions Intelligence.

Rev. b. NJ. Taylor, former pastor of
the G. +. Church will preach TO his old
congregation next Sunday.
There will be a Church Conference
and an address by DR.. Rivers at the
Methodist Church next Thursday even
Ing at 6lS o'clock. The public is invi-
ted and the membership requested to be
present.
Rev. VIM. billiard of the c. p. Church
will preach at Moriah next Sabbath
morning at the usual hour.
Rev. +. J. Tyler, will hold a Sacra-
mental Meeting at Moriah on the 81
Saturday and Sunday, assisted by Rev
VIM. billiard.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

An exchange truly says that it costs
less than cent day to take our week
ly paper-leSs than diligent hen would
aern In year at market price of eggs ;
less than one cigar a week and a very
cheap one; at less than barber would
charge by the year to keep ones hair
trimmed than a good thanksgiving tur-
key; less than a seat one night at the
opera; less than an energetic kichen girl
will waste in a week. a penny a day
can be saved in many a way better than
stopping a family paper.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

Shelbyville Commercial; James
johnson, nine or ten years old, was
bitten by a mad dog about 4 weeks
ago. The next day his brother took
him to mad stone and had it applied
to the wound. The wound soon
healed up and seemed to do well, but
last Saturday he was attacked with
hydrophobia and died Sunday night
after twentyfour hours of horrible
suffering. He lived at Tho's. Dean 5
near Flat Greek.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

S8- DIR, Rivers became President of
Martin College by agreement with
Prof. Jones, and not by the act Of the
Trustees or of the Tennessee Conference
though the agreement between DIR.
Rivers and Prof. Jones was ratified and
approved by both of these bodies, and
DIR. Rivers was afterwards formally
elected. Prof. Jones voluntarily
withdrew and offered DR.. Rivers in his
place, the Trustees accepted him, and
the Conference consented to give him
up. We make this statement because
there seems TO be n misunderstanding in
some quarters in regard to this matter.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

@ We are in receipt of the first
number of Tie Critic, an illustrated
monthly,'ievOted to choice literature
and criticism Of men and things -
published at Gallatin, Tenn, at IS
cents year with a large chrome free.
1t has contributions from many dis
tinguished writer's and is made up
entirely of original matter, consist
ing of stories, poems, sketches, an
ecdotes, exposures of swindles, &c. ;
full of humor, interest and insruc-
ton. As the Southern Farmer says,
it is ga novelty in literature"
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

At the residence of the brides father,
Mr.. a. l.. Crow, in this city, on Thurs
day, Dec. 3lst, by Rev. DIR. DuBose, Mr.
X. X. BEED to Miss ANNIE /. CROW.
Marriage license have been issued t.
the following persons since our last.
w. a. Newman to E. A. johnson,
Jas. White to Tennie Massey,
j. ii. Hardy to Hannah Z. Rust,
). ii. Brown to NJ. J. Vance,
w. j. Brashears to +. 4. Owens,
w. 5. Hargrove to NJ. j. Cant,
4. +. Barnes to George A Kenneda,
j. b. Warren to NJ. A. Barnett,
j. M. Griflis to Fannie Farmer.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07
PULASKI LYCEUM
reorganization and Election
of Officers.

The members of the Pulaski Lyceun
were called to order last Thursday nigh
at AntOinette Hall by Pres. G. o. a ber-
nathy. The roll WAS called and minutes
read by Act'g-Sec. A.. p. Loveman, after
which the following gentlemen were
chosen rs officers:
For President, Hon. ThOs. NJ. Jones
for V. Pres, DR.. VIM. Bate; for Rec
Sec. d Treas, a. p. Loveman for Cor
Sec, Col. c. g. Rogers.
The Executive Committee are:
Hon. ThOs. NJ. Jones, Pres. DR.. VIM
Bate, V. p; DR.. G. c. Alternately, Col
S. 4. Rose, Hon. +. B. Logan, DR.. ID. G
Gordon, DR. j. F. Grant and Maj. b. +
Carter.
Capt. JnO. G. Lester was chosen tC
deliver the next lecture, which is to be
on Thursday on or Immediately prece-
ding the first full moon in January.
Negotiations were set on foot which
will probably result in the securing Of
the Episcopal Church for the use of the
Lyceum In future.
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

ESy- The editor of the linton ana
american says the paragraph for which
we took him TO task last week was duly
credited to the Memphis AUdldnehe, and
was not the utterance OF the u. ~ A
If we did injustice to our contemporary
we ask his pardon, but we did not SO
read 1t at the time, and our copy OF his
paper has been mislaid. We are glad
he disaVOws such sentiments
The Pulaski citizen. [volume] (Pulaski, Tenn.) 1866-current, 1875-01-07

ES- A special dispatch from Trenton
to the u. q A. on Monday says: 'This
being County Court day, there was a
large attendance Of solid citizens of old
Gibson In town. A meeting was called
which was largely attended and enthu-
siastic in its demonstrations. Our men,
bers were instructed to vote for Jno. {,
Brown for u. >. Senator"
Three cheers for old Gibsonl