The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-20


ton had told this storyg
Mr.. shearman-Tweye persons whom he had
told.
Mr.. Fullerton-wen told. Mrs. Morse says, II
know twelve persons whom he mas told. am they
/ IN turn have tod othersn A. Told what. slrY
q, / am not under examination. A. No: but
ask In order TO be able TO answer your question:
about tnls letter; can recollect there was a time
In which the subject OF Mr. illton's speaNlhg
nis iaLJ tiouuIvs Was 81 ~ az
MT. Mouton ana myself, but don't recollect ~ as
4 associated with this letter, though IL may nave
q. Did ypu unaerstand stand he he had disclosed family
4 difficulties ana at the same time disclosed you
were me author OF those cifilcuties A. don't
recollect ABOUT tnar; OF course there could
scarcely be any other undets tandlng than that.
4 Q Don't you recolect after you took THIS letter
4 to Mr.. Moulton that Mr. Moulton sent Tor Mr. IL
ton, and don't you recolect that an interview lol-
4 lowed between you three gentlemen? A. re-
memoer there was an interview between us on
the subject OF whether he had made reports about
what are calied the Bowen scandals, AMI partly
I whether ne had also spoken about dnlcultles IN
4 his own family as connected with me-
Q. Now what took place between you on the lat
ter snbectl A. don't recall what the result was,
except IN general that accepted from Mr. Moul-
ton the assurance that It wasn't SO.
Il q. DON'T you recoect that rilon denied having
told ii TO Twelve persons and went on 10 state to
whom he mad TOLD IL? A. don't recall tnat, put
statement was exagge rated. ana also | received
from Mr. Tlton GENIAL OF the substantial allega-
q. Ny question Is whether IL wasn't the subject
OF discussion there whether he hadn't told II 70
some persons? A. don't remember tue discus
SOU sufficiently dstlnct to say.
o. Don't YOU recolIect ne denied having told it.
except to Mrs Bradshaw ana oliver Johnson A.
O. now long after the publication OF the Wood
huh card before you saw Mr.. TlltonY A. IL was
O. Didn't you go directly to see him ? A. don't
recollect that dd.
O. DID, you go 10 see Moulton A. dont recol-
lecr IL; but IL ~ quite likely.
o. Dia you take any step with regard TO the pub
licatIon OF thaE card A. NO TOOK no step; 1t is
quite likely had Conversations with MIR. Moulton
II anything should be done, out don't recall the
o. DON'T YOU remember you had an inter view
Win Moulton and II WAS agreed That
MRS. Woodruff SHOULD BE SEEN ABOUT 1T
Q. When did you frst learn that Mr.. Tilton had
seen MIS-. Woodruff A. When he told me, within
few days OF the Interview.
O Didn't he tell you IN substance that he had
an interview with Mrs. Woodnull Tor the purpose
OF establishing pleasant reiatiops with her, so as
TO avert the blow she threatened TO striker 4.
He said ne wanted 70 bring TO bear upon her in
\ nuences that would restrain her from bringing
trouble upon his iamily.
z. DIDN'T you approve OF thats A. Yes. IN the
light / then mad; thought II wasn't an I'M
proper thing then % 10.
A. Possibly might nave.
O. DID ne at that time disclose to you his plan
how with kindly Influences that was 70 be
| brought aboutg A. understood it was TO be
brought ABOUT by the exertlon OF his personal IN
\ nuence upon Mrs. woodruff and Dy stating 10
LAHORE n the same Held with herself
Q. When did you next near OF the scandal after
the publication Of Mrs. Woodhully A. Ny impress
sion Is 1t was not until the Iali the scandal, you
mean. as pubsnedg
O. YES Previous to the publication in 1872, aid
you near II mai got out privatelyS "A. That there
was difficulty between me and Mr.. Tllton heard
had got out.
u From whom did you hear THAR A. l can't
say positively.
.. Wnat dld you hear the dirnculty was That had
got out? A. ! can't say; merely tnat there was
talk about IL and that there were rumors ABOUT it.
o. DO you recollect receiving letter from
nephew o. yours Mr.. +. b. PerEinsS
(rhe letter was produced and ldentlnedl.
q Are You unable 10 say you heard OF this scan
dal before ls7lr A. No, SIR.
Mr.. Fullerton read from the letter. "Tilton has
been justylng or eXcusiug his recent lntrlgues
with women ~ alleslng that you have oeen IA
dlcted 10 Ike aduteries, tue same having been
hushed Up ~ A. Yes, sir; referring 70 tue Bowen
SCANDAL.
O. Well now mad they been husned ups A. 40
o. You admit regard this as having reference at
all TO the charge against you A. Not as recall
% Let as see your reply :-"Februsry %, 1871.
Whatever Mr.. Tilton formerly SAID against mel
(paus.ngl. A. Please cad on tsotto voct)-that'5
an uncomfortable letter TO read.
o. re4dlng) Whatever Mr. TlltOn formerly
SAID against me, and ! know the substance Of IL,
ne mas wlthdrawn.n Now, prior 20 that Mr. III
ton nad charged you with Improper relations Win
his wnes q. lhat wasn't a subject between Mr.
Tilton and me-
An argument ensued between counsel, Dir.
EyaTts claiming lnat tne wnole sentence should
be read ana MT Fullerton that nc had right 10
frame MS own question.
Inc Court admitted the question.
MltuGsS-MT.
uuh without maAlng statement besides yes"
or "n0.U
p. 1871, Mr. Iilton had not made The charge
axainst you or improper advances 70 MS vile A.
lie never made sucn charge against ne.
q. Dld ne charge you ~itn wicked proposals TO
his vie a. lac never made such a charge; he
read IN my nearing copy q wat purported 10
be charge mace ~ us Nie.
O. Well, VIII settle that question now. Let
me read rom your direct examiuatlon:-"Ihat.
in consequence 81 tue differences winch nad
ID 81 o.
Nell nigh been Gcs rOycd; that | had suffered my
vi and ns no NJ r-In.law To conspre or the sep
arauon u the fami that had corrupted ElIza-
beta, teaching ner 10 Ac, 70 deceive hlm, 70 HOE
under lar appearance " friendship - me.
lie tnen went to say snat not only hAd one
this. but hat | mad made overiures 70 ner Of an
improper character" Now ddn't ne charge yoa
win Improper Oveftures III A. Viii you read
the whole u y, please sir
70 be a statement that Mr. Beecher had solicited
ner become Us Whe ~ az the lntents ana put
poses winch we're slgniaed by that termn NOW.
didn't ne arge you win improper advances
A. strictly speaking, ne did not.
Q. Weli don't want anYtuing ont strict speak
Ing. want you 70 strictly speak Ia answer.
DIdn't ne charge you Win improper advances
A. don't consider that ne dld, strictly ana err
o BID YOU give the evidence Just read on your
direc. exam nation A. presume did.
u wa, 1t true ~ read Il A. presume Il is
true 10 c sense IN winch meant IT,
u Didn't you unde stand yourself as saving in
your evIuenre that ne maze the arge irst anu
taen lUrtled 4 by producing the certificate of his
vile a. ! use tue word
.. Didn't you understand yours IL saying
thetY A. Please repeat the question. (Que ston
repeatedly ala not intend 70 De 50 understood,
d. Letitstand there. will read to you and see
whether you ever SAID tuis at any otner line -
s'ie tnen declared ndd injured HIM IN his family
relations, hal joined "itn ms mother-in.law "a
producing alscOru IN ms house, nau ADVISED sepa-
ratiyn, nad anenatsd his WEES affection
aud eaded " charging that | mad made wicked
u Now, IN sayinf that did you refer to tue same
inlervlev between you and Iiiton on tue S0tn q