The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-18
THE STATE CAPITAL
Exciting Debate on the Cos
tigan Bill.
SEVENTEEN RECREANT DEMOCRATS.
Plain Talk About Governor Tilden and
Tammany Hall.

ALBANY, Feb. II. 1878.
This evening the Assembly came together again.
The galleries and vestioule OF the chamber we're
filed Ia anticipation OF the debate OF the Cost
gan bill being continued at halfpast seven O'Clock.
Speaker Mcclure look the chair, and, after call.
ing the House to order. announced the Governors
Message as the special order cor the occasion
This announcement surprised many as at hall.
past two O'Clock recess was taken until
evening, In the midst o! the discussion on
the Costlgan measure. Mr.. Davis, OF Washington,
who leads the democrats In opposition to the bill,
Immediately rose and appealed from the decision
or the Chair. vote was taken, Shall the decision
OF the Char be the decision OF the house The
Speaker was sustained. Mr.. Hustled. pending the
question, asked to be excused from voting. He
declared II as his opinion, however, that the
Speaker was IN error. Mr.. Davis then moved a
postponement OF consideration OF the Governors
Message lor one week. This motion, requiring
two.thirds vote, was also lost. TIE House
then resolved itself into Committee OF the
Whole. with Mr.. Cleary. OF Rensselaer,, in the
chair Mr.. Hustled here moved that the commit ttee
rise and report progress In the Message and ask
leave to SIT again. This motion was carried by q
close vote.
THE TACTICS OF DELAY.
The Costixan bill was next in order. whe n Mr..
adjourn, which was carried The phil
osopny of these proceedings is quite ap.
parent Speaker Mcclure aud his friends
who favor tue measure, and who see almost GER
tain defeat staring them In the face should IL be
pushed Immediately, are now fighting for time.
The tone or the debate and Its illusions to the
Governors alleged interference in legislative mat.
ters are subjects OF animated discussion tonight
among the members Some allege this course Will
favorably AFFECT the ultimate tate OF the bill, while
others contend that 1t has brought strength
TO the stdes OF the opponents IN rallying
around Governor Tlden any friends hitherto
doubling his exact position on the bill one TACT Is
morallzed and are already hgntng among them
selves.
GOING TO THE TAnMANY SCHOOL,
The illusions to-day OF Mr.. Lincoln, (rep.) Of
On AFRO. TO the New York delegation going to
school every, SATURDAY, at Tammany Hail. has
angered the New York representatives very much.
wdenner attempted to beat back the insinuatlon
by stating that he never went to any school to
learn his legislative duties; but Lincoln quietly
cooled him down by asKipx II he had not last
Saturday been at the Tammany Hall gathering.
COMPROMISE IMPERATIVE.
Unless.a compromise steps in there Is certain ty
OF serious split In the democratic ranks. The
republicans have not taken an active part In the
DEBATE, and quietly 10d their arms, watching the
movements OF tue democrats contenting them
selves with a solid vote against progressing the
measure whenever opportunity arises
VIEWS OF A PROMINENT POLITICIAN.
have interviewed leading politician here to-
to the POSITION Of aen on this
question. He summarizes the points OF opposition
TO the OIL as Ioilows:-ln regard to the removal
Assistant Alderman could present articles OF I'm
peachment to the Board OF Aldermen. ana two
thirds OF the latter could decide upon the ques-
ton; in 1857 the Comptroller, Mayor ana Corpora
tOn Counsel could be removed for cause by the
Governor alone. the Mayor having nothing to do
with IL. 1t was the same In the ca Of the
sherid. Under the charter Of 1870, the Mayor had
to present articles OF impeachment TO- the Court
nj hnor Al
found guilty, removal followed. Under the present
charter the Mayor can remove the heads oil de-
the removal to the approval OF the Governor, ex-
pressed IN writing. This approval OF The Governor
Ss the Of
tablishlng home rule or local seii.government in
Its true sense. home rulers would be created and
unlimited powers conferred upon the Mayor over
the finances over the various departments OF the
city government and over all the appointed
judiciary. The amendments proposed in the
Costigan bill have never been asked Tor by the
people, and no provision has been made therein
Tor its Submission to the people Tor their approval.
such autOcra tic powers have never been conferred
unsought upon any former Mayor. 1 can state
positively snat these are the sentiments upon
wnicn Governor Tlldens friends now fight this
proposed enactment; their sound philosophy Is
announcer and probably more doubtful question.
POSSIBLE TROUBLE.
The Dill VIII be up again IN the morning. Unless
the leaders have come together IN the meanwhile
and arranged q satisfactory compromise trouble
may be expected.
THE LICENSE QUESTION.
The total abstinence element IN the Senate was
Committee on internal Affairs OF the House.
They appeared In opposition to the bills now
trae. speecses we're made Dy Mr. sea
President OF the state Temperance Society; Mrs.
Allen Butler, q syracuse, President Of the Wo-
OF Wellsville; Mrs. swanson. oil Brooklyn; Mr.. q.
j. Hale, OF Brooklyn; Mr. James Alexander
Absolute prohibition was asked for, and the
speeches e OF the ladies were partIcuarly nappy;
At Tweedle Hall this evening.
THE MORNING SESSION.
Contrary to reports circulated freely here last
night the Costigan Oil came up this afternoon Tor
third reading. 1t Is understood That orders
came this morning from Tammany Hall to dispose
OF the bill in one way or another. Agitation was
becoming more and more dangerous, IN view OF
the TACT that democratic leaders were divided
upon T No DOUBT 10 now entertained mat 1aHr Gov
inception, and defeat so lar is mainly due to his
It Is also claimed that the introduction OF the
bill will do great damage to the democratic p&rty.
Positive divisions nave arisen among the ma.
IL against Ma on one SIDE aad
Mayor Wickham ana the whole New York delega-
ton on ne 1!her 3 serious split Is antcipated.
Where MIR. John Kelly stands nobody seems To
know. A square back down has taken place.
among fifteen or sixteen democrats. from the
week. IN which It was positively ' agreed t1as
the Costigan bill should De treated as . party
measure. But Governor Tilden steps in and tells
his friends that he does not want the measure
passed and hence the opposition which It met
with IN coming up to-day.
AZ one O'CLOCK the bill was reached in its order.
When the title was read Mr.. Davis OF Washington
rose in his seat and offered the resolution.
Alter long discussion, summary OF which Ia
given below. Mr.. Daily concluded his reply by
moving the previous question. This motion, pre-
venting any further debate, was put to the House,
and votcd down by vote OF So TO So The vote
showed conclusivey the strength oil the 0rpos-
ton. seventeen democrats voted with the re-
pubcans. Their names are Messrs. Barley,
BrOas Brown, Cooke, Davis, Fish, Fream. Grimm.
Hanrahan, Krack, Lawrence, Lewis, Schienehn,
Shattuck Shlel, WenzeI, Wurts.
The absentees were Messrs. Badger, Beardsley,
T. J. Campbell Holmes, McAtec, irwin, Scudder,
fireman., West and Worth.
THE MORNING DEBATE
When the Costigan bill came up In the House this
morning MIR. DAVIS offered resolution de signaling
Messrs. Charles O'COn0r Horatio seymour, Ed
ward ID. Morgan, William M. EvarJs. Francis Ker-
nan, John Kelly, Henry G. Murphy and henry r.
Selden commission TO draft a bill which VIII
secure to eacn city In the State proper self.gov
crnment lie spoke at some length In favor OF
his resolution, saying that the people OF the entire
state look to this Legislature for measure OF this