The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-05-01
VIEWS OF NE. HEpwoRrH.


Just after the latter has finished hearty dinner.
1t was al such time last evening that the writer
met the Rev. MIR. George H. Hepwortn. OF the
Church OF the Disciples, at his home, Nc. 10
West Forty-seventh street. Mr.. Hepworth was
genial, not TO say jovial In reply TO the nrst
question, "What Is the state OF religion In your
shurcn w the minister said, with enthusiasm
my church is nourishing. IL Is, as you perhaps
Know, not an aristocratlc church, Tor the attend.
knce Is made up oi young clerks, young married
people and other persons OF varied conditions In
he. Quite number OF these people nave been
converted and admitted to membership in the
congregation WITHIN the last rev months. Ever
since ar. varley began 10 preach IN this city
have found that there mas been u gradual accumu-
latlOn OF religious sentiment my congregation,
are s daily n.y. morning and evening prayer meetings
In my church, and there IS meeting every sun
iThen, Nj. Hepworth,n said the writer. "you
discover among your people desire 10 respond
70 the revival movement which Is now going
On In Europe Do you think tnat desire Is WIDE
II think, y answered the minister, "that there
puL among rengIous people generally; but 1t Is
not very strong az present. 1t Is, however
hui force about next autumn. The
aiincuity III the way OF the spreading and strength
Organization 10 urge 1t from us inception. There
has been no cooperation Tor the express purpose
was u factor OF the desre, but he could not do
anything alone. Besides, Mr.. Varley was not
strong, or rather Ell Lnusldstlc, enough DE was
too siow-too deliberate. He was aoie to acquire
. certain power over his hearers, Tut has
enect upoa lnem was not lasting. II
there nad been organization to supplement-
his labors at iirst aud alterward 10 widen the
sphere OF religious labor, tnerc would now be q
great revival movement. AS | said before, we
have lacked organization In this country. In
Europe 1t Is organization which Is now enecting
30 much good. In Germany and France the
CARNATIONS are more perfect even than in Eng
land. Very lew here know tnat religious revlv2s
are now going on In otner parts OF Europe than
evan2elzation Is being carried on with even
more earnestness, and is naving greater results
IN France ana Germany than Ia Great Britain.
Nessis. Moody and San4ey are, indeed doing
great work IN England. Not OILY the ordinary
LORDS ana ladies' aud even members oil the royal
family. Still, II there were no organization 10
be lasting As II is, the clergymen OF every denom-
ination cub togetner. anu, by means Of prayer
meetings, enhance tue enects VI the mlnlstratons
OF the AmerIcan EVANGELISM
In response TO another question somewhat SIM
liar 10 che one Just previous Mr.. HepWortn said -
"ol course, as result OF t0at desire for reit-
Hious revival VIII Gu have alluded to, there Is
disposition 10 encourage sucn movement But
like the desire OF wnlcn IL Is "A cor0lary IL Is not
very strong at present. | nave been unable 10
understand THIS laxity. Coming out OF the uni
tar an Churcn, ana now undergoing my hrst ex-
perlence III revival / have wondered At the
failure OF rengous people to push on the move
men to spread the CHRISTIAN ialth, which was
certainly begun several mon ns ago. For myself
was aud am heartily anxious 10 urge It IL Is TO
me The lime when converts Itself into bone TO
'.Wnat effect, Mr. Hepwortn, has the Cardinalate
upon yodr people, and how do you regard IL Jour.
HelfYv
"Pshaw ~ began the hearty minister, "mv
people don't trouble themselves about tue Car
dinsl except perhaps, that they would like TO
him in has ioDes-as a kinu of show, you know. IL
In absurd TO attach any political Importance to the
creation OF a Cardinal H. indeed, NC could con-
ceive--but pshaw that's simply impossible. l
was gong 10 say that n t could DC conceived that
Cardioalate carried Win II a temporal authority
H. lOr Instance, u CARDINAL should be given a FER
ritory mere to rule over, say, space as large as
she District OF CoumDia-wc might nave cause for
alarm. As tie matter is q Cardinal Is no more to
as than Catholic Archbishop. Cardinal McUioskey
mlgni, In iact have two req hats without disturb
ing usn
is religion affected in any way BY the Bsecher
Gr1aIP asked tue writer.
ait IL, indeed. l do not attribute any evil
bnect upon religion to Mr. Beecher himself. 1
love him, aud regard aim o. q victim VI q con.
Bpiracy. II 10 tue testimony In tue trial which has
bad tile eject 20 retard the progress OF religion.
People have learned since the trial began to
talk iamlllarly OF things which they would have
bluShed to ne4r aluued 10 year ago. Not only
elderly people, Dut tie Ioung nave learned TO do
this. In short | consider that tne Beecner
or the revival movement. That movement 10 now
due and should be In progress. IL came Rlter
assf. IL came again alef 1857, and AZ should now
follow the panic OF 1874. Whenever men sud.
deny arrive o. sense vi the insecurity OF their
uv6s fortunes tnoI turn to God. After every
1eason ol epidemic disease tbere IL renewed
ACTIVITY 10 churches ] sank tnat the trial OF MT.
BvecheF nss stood 10 the Nay OF the occurrence OF
great religious revival Al lie proper ume."