The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-09

into the Brooklyn Union. that would treat an
Brooklyn topics with great particuiarIy auu
spicuous addition. namely, Plymouth church
and all It's AFFAIRS tor he said. "Tnas
caaren mas large mi eo o s .aG
." notice that you have not given particular atten'
ton to the cburcn and. indeed, you have not az.
tended the church for some months and your
absence has been noticed by me;'' told him that
never again should cross the threshold OF Ply.
Q. Mr. Johnson was present at this part OF the
conversation, wasn't he 2 A. thnk he was but
lett; think Mr. Johnson threw In some such re-
marx as this -"Pernaps Mr.. Tilton has some rea'
Q. You think he was theres A. At that part
but think that Mr.. Johnson very shortly amer.
sation concerning the stories about me was ended
terward: he did not stay long 10 hear our discus
Q. stlll ne stayed until after Mr.. Bowen had
opened upon this subject using tne BROOKLYN Unton
A. think he did; at all events Mr.. Johns IN made
some remarks ABOUT reasons wnicn might pos
q. Ana you then made the observation that
you have, Just repeatedly A. Well, don't know
mat made ~ tnen; perhaps may nave made ls
Q: You madsit either before or after Mr.. John
sons remark? A. Yes, sir; some time during the
Q. And in this connections His observation was
necIon with nisS A. Yes, sir but il was not so
much reference TO The papers as 1t was refer.
Well hS va aid 70 the moter 20 on then on Mr..
Bowen,s part after that observation OF yours A
Q NO. don't care-I will mud out whether hs
was there or not II can; put after this ooserva.
s sSd 1 or yours A. dont think very mncn was
some questions to me to know why IL was DIDN'T
60 10 Plymouth church; that Is part now dis
Z. Well. when did Mr.. Bowen commence stating
MS accusations or imputatlons AGAINST Mr.:
Beecherp A. l can't remember exactly at what
part Of the conversation he did; some OF them
were stated before Mr.. Johnson went away, others
were stated alter he went away.
q. We'll, dt1 he pursue the matter at some
lengIh' A. Well yes. sir; at some length. neces.
q You have given on your direct examination,
have you not substantially what he saids A.
Q. AS you remembered itY A. Yes. sir.
q Well. what did You say alter he had completed
MS accusations against Mr.. Beecners What dd
think he kept reiteratlng them.
q. He LETT on some time or another. didn't he'
A. Not until lett the house.
g. Wen, wnen ne had got through With them for
the first time. what did you sayY A. You mean
identity what said at any particular moment.
z wnas was saia A. any time Dy your A; MI;
Mr.. Beecher's relations had been to MRS. Triton.
e And askeas a: Yes. SIR, after Mr.. Johnson
wens away Sa Mr. seecner naS BEEN guilty of
dsnonorabe benavior toward Mrs. Tilton.
o. That you said while M. Johnson was there
O. When did the suggestion o, the preparation
OF tns letter OF demand o. NJ; Beeener come up
conversation WITH me at the close OF that inter.
view
Evarts warmed MP as he asked the witness whas
ne said when Bowen made the accusation against
Beecher It seemed to the audience this was
very pregnant question, for they looked awe.
stricken IS the counsel raised his voice and de-
livered himself with an uncommon de.
gree OF empnasis. It was the usual noun
tain OF an interrogatory and the parruritlon
resulted in diminutive mouse.
witness continued-Bowen suggested it; he
IN MS courcS. "a letter hand ID 20 wtne IS Mr..
Bowen said in substance that Mr.. Beechsr ought
nTt 70 &c aSwea no 10 remain t@e poPi. or ms
then said that he could take no steps towa'd the
accomplishment Of any such object as that be:
cause ne mad IN the previous February received
from Mr.. beecher u Illuminating confession OF ms
guilt, and tnae Mr.. Bowen had gwen MIN pardon;
demand that he would substaniiate If, and
would bring volume OF evidence with wnion no
proposed to see It carried into execution; stated
The DEMAND ON Mr.. BEEcHER TO RESIGN.
your consent to acting in the manner which ne
sugsestedf A saiG. .Glvs me pen and sheet
q. Is that the original draft that you wrote A.
No, sir -
z. At any rate IL was ante dated, and the hnHA
copy was changed in some words; 1t was changed
before 1t was finally copied A. Yes, sir.
Q. DO you remember That ? A. remember. per.
haps. with sufficient accuracy for reasons which
you can probably understand.
2. Vas the original draft, including the amend.
ment, In your handwrtlngs A. The original draft
did not include the amendment.
z. Including the amendment put upon it-waa
not the Amendment put upon the DRAFT? A. Yes,
o. And tine address, is not that yours alsof A.
Yes, sir; all except the small writing.
Q. Now, all tnat makes II letterls IN your hand
Yes zo SIR ;s sve fgs os 81 70 Mr.
was the envelope closed or sealed A. think II
was open
taken oy him to be carried as an open letter to Mr..
BeecherS A. That Is my recollection; Is not the
q. You can see whether 1t has been sealed ? A.
Now there are MARKS OF It's having been closed,
built was not closed Dy me l5 was an open letter
open letter. A. Yes. sir.
Q. SO that this closing was not by you q u. NO,
Q. When were You seen in regard to itY A. Not
at all; Ill did not put any Injunction upon Mr..
Bow en-; he knew the contents OF the letter, Il
was an open letter, and he and were Jointly re.
spOnsiDle tor It.
Mr.. Evarts read:-
HENRY WARD BEEcnER:-
~ S ia e E Ss
Ei ~ and s s Fl
O. And you signed that Jontlys A. Yes sir.
q You read that, Isupposes A. Yes, Sir, read
that.
O. Now. Mr.. TLton, how soon after this did you
INQUIRE, and how soon after inquring did you
hear what had been done CONCERNING the act Of
the delivery or this letter. A. made no inquiry
about 1t, SIR.
q. How soon did the knowledge come toyI
concerning IL Z A. Mr. Beecner's own statemeA4
to me on Friday night OF that week that the W.
ter had been delivered; took for granted, now.
ever, tnat II mad been promptly delivered; THAT'S
my recollection oil It,
q. Now, Mr.. TIlton, let me recall your attention
to the fact that prior to that IN eIvlew with Mr..
Beecner to which you have now alluded You had
an Interview with Mr.. Bowenr A. mad, SIR.
Q. What day was that interview 2 A. don't re.
member whether 1t was on Dec ,mber II or q.
z. One or the otnerY A. Ore or the other,
think yes.
question or the subject or this letter being de.
lvered 10y Mr.. Bowen 10 Mr.. Beecner, and the 90.
curren ce thereupon become the subject Of CONVEX.
sation between you and Mr.. Bowenf A. No, siri