New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-09

"a thai was mot the isst,e And now another witness
eau ten the truth about occurrence II r Triton co'd
tel the truth about II, or was called 70 tell te trutn
about IT, They introduced II in their own way ana told
II in their own way the whole point being not whether
Mr. Johnson had that salary or this or that en-
poyment-the whole point being the action and the mo
tive and the nferenccs justly drawaDle from the &C
ton and the motive OF this witness that IL on the
stand that Is the essence
Judge Neson-It is very obvious, first, that you can
contradict correct anything Mr.. rilton said On
that subject; and second you can show. AZ has been
shown think by Mr. Johnson the general fact without
giving the conversation general fact accounting for
his employment
Mr.. Evarts-Of course; we don't wish to be prox
about it
Judge Neilson-No you would not be that Sir anyway
But only remind you that excluded the conversation
before and in the general fact how Mr. Johnson
came TO be employed through whose fundamentally
Mr. Evarts-Now, Sir. what part, any, did you take
in respect to the employment of Mr. Johnson on the
Chrtsa Union, and with whomf A. think can state
It, Sir without going into any conversations Will try TO-
There was dissatisfaction with the editorial management
Of The Christian Union which gave rise to many re-
quests from the publishers to that we should have
more experienced manager. I disregareded 1t for q
long
Mr. Fuerton-well, that ia more Objectionable than
the other Sir, good deal
Mr. Evarts-I dout know why; 1t shows the situation
u
Judge NeilsonWell, that is the Introduction It per-
haps may stand as accounting for that Now, the very
fact, Mr.. Beecher-
The witness-In consequence of this Mr. wilkeson
peatedly mentioned to me the name
Mr.. Fullerton-Now, object to it,
Judge Neilson-wen, Mr. Wilkeson took part-n con-
sequence of this Mr.. wlkeson took parti
The witness-Mr. wlkeson took part.
Judge Neison-Without giving his conversation
kThe Witness-And Mr.. Johnsons name was urged upon
me.
Mr.. Evarts-By Mr.. wnkesoni A. By Mr.. wilkeson.
Mr.. Beach-Wcll-
Mr. Evarts-That is the very thing. and very proper
Mr.. Fullerton-And a very improper thing
Mr.. Evarts COMPATIBILITY now, If your Honor
please
Judge Neilson-Proceed, let it stand ITO the Wit
ness1-And he was employed. A. Not Immediately; it
ran along for months at last, after Mr. Johnson had
been sounded by Mr.. Wilkeson, went TO see him.
Q. Well. A. As the result OF my going 10 see him with
sundry and divers motives he agreed to go on to the pa
per. When the matter was the of accomplish
ment mentioned il to Mr.. Mouton. He expressed him.
self very much pleased, thought it would be very
good thing for the paper and he thought would be
very good thing all around.
O. Now, Sir had the employment OF Mr.. Johnson on
that paper your action in your motive any connec
ton with the troubles between you and Mr.. Tftoni A.
None whatever; employed him purely on professional
grounds
O. Had you at any time given any instructions 10 Mr.
Johnson concerning the treatment OF The Golden Age or
Of Mr. Tlton in that paper having any relation to these
matters A. told Mr.. Johnson
Mr.. Beach-No.
The witness-The instructions to the editOral--
Mr. Beach-That Is objected to, Sir; your Honor shut
that out before.
Judge Neilson-Oh, yes, we had that up before
Mr. Evarts-My question is a negative; Mr., Beecher,
you will attend to it, the stenographer Will please read
the question
GThe Tribune stenographer read the question
The Witness-No, | did not.
Now Sir call your attention 10 some statements OF
Mr. Tlton on the subject OF this employment OF Mr.
Johnson page 42O OF the printed book did you at any
time Mr. Beecher say Mr. TiltOn that In your Judg-
ment il would be necessary TO have some one in The
Christian Union some editor OF your paper who could
handle that journal with more skill in reference to the
scandal A. did not.
O. Did you say to him, 81 cannot trust any OF my
editors to do IT, they not friendly to you and they
do not any OF the facts in the case and that Ii
great misfortunei" A. No. Sir did not say any such
absurd thing.
O. Did reply ia that connection say TO you that
he could point out to remedy the difficulty ana
proceed
In the frat place your paper dull and needs improve
ment and II you will take my OiceedltOf, who used 10
be with The independent namely Mt Oliver JOHN
son. who knows all the facts in this az least VINO
knows the central fact from my having confessed II 70
him in the summer Of 1870, and II you WIZ maze nni
per for one tning and he will handle this business tn
necessary skill and kindness for another thing.
| A. A very stupid lie and falsehood.
O. Now, Sir did you report TO Mr. Tilton the progress
any part of the progress Of your plans or consua
tons in reference the employment and then the final
employment OF Mr.. Johnson a. No, Sir; he was not
my counselor about it in any way whatever.