The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-13


tionally and unconsciousy wrought IN that quiet
little oman a smonlderng fire that had burned
unknown 40 me ana which had broke out Win
such Infinite mischief
GROWING PLAISrrvE.
He thought he had wrought in that quiet dell
cate little woman Mrs 1ttonl a shoulder
ing fire or passion that might break out ana do in.
finite mischief at any time. This was pat OF his
conversation with Mrs. Moulton. II was narrated
in plalntlve tone, and fears were held that Mr..
Beecher would break down before long.
Q. what did Mrs. Muulton say Ia regard to the
subjectg A. she never SAID much about IL; she
was not, as FAR as was concerned, y talker; she
was very patient listener
q. During all Your interviews with Mrs. Mou-
ton was anything ever said by Mrs. Moulton
on the subject OF Your having been guilty OF adul-
terry with Mrs. I1ltion. A. Mrs. Moulton was abso-
lutely incapable OF saying that in my presence,
and never said II, by direct words or allusion 10
her honor; we never couversed on this subject
she was lady thoroughbred, TO my impression,
and she never said word that Jared upon my
senses OF the propriety or delfcacy OF ladys
tongue.
Tllton and Moulton eyed the witness with
more than common watchiuness as, bracing HIM
self for one OF those remarkable responses that
from day TO day he has rolled forth to beat back
the tide or accusation, he replied with long as
pratlon, as II he were lifting load on his heart
1T was impossible for her."
O. Dd you ever at any conversation, say to
WIZ
yersatlon you should ever have with her-did you
say TO ner, II eel If nlton publishes that letter
oil apology IL 10 useless Tor me any longer 20 live
this down z" A. did not.
O. Did you say anything like this ~ feel If
for me 10 try any longer to live This down; nave
never felt that had much 10 nope for from Theo-
dore; ne has been Iaitness ne - laitnless man
at me he sacrifices his wife, and II that letter or
apology IS published might as well go out OF ne;
felt So never thought so, and never said so.
O. Did she say to you, "Mr. Beecner. there is
something better for you TO DO Than tnat; IL would
be cowardly; go down 10 your church and confess
your crime; they VIII forgive your A, She never
sad anything OF the kind no. sir.
Q. DID you say III reply To that, mo, cannot 40
her love for her Children Tor my family for my
church. Tor my influence throughout the whole
world. that can never DO; Will die before con-
fess lrS A. No, sir, never-very triumpnantly
aiiirm thai.
o. Did she say this to you, "Sooner or later the
truth in case VIII come out; II IS much better
that you should take your case in your own hands
aud state II to your church-giye TO them con les
sion such as you could make TO them, and am
though / know something which that was made
o. Now, sir. did you say in reference to this sug-
gesLon OF hers, or in the conversation at all, NO.
that cannot do; should benny children would
desptse me; could not 90 back 10 my home, and
my churcn would not forgive me; they would not
deal with me as you have done; there would be
nothing lett for me TO do; my work would be IN
ished IL wound be better that should 20 out or
lie than 10 remain any longer in itn Anything
OF that tenor or efectY A. No such conversation (;
IL was Impossible for her aud Tor me-
Q. Did she then suggest. or al all suggest In any
conversation, you could write Tor your paper, you
could go 10 your farm and writer A. No. str: Mrs.
entered into any diplomatic conversations OF that
kind with me whatsoever.
THAT MYSTERIOUS POWDER.
Q. And did you IN any conversation with her
say, mo; II they would not listen 10 hear me
that should write. Besides, my position In lie IS
that OF spirliua and moral teacher. II can u %
longer hold that position, then there IS nothing
lett for me, and am resolved 10 take my lie.
HAVE A POWDER AT HOME on MY LIBRARY
table which have prepared. which shall take,
out a struggle" Did YOU nave any conversation
or that kndf A. That whole representation Is
preposterous and false the only powder know or
was In gunpowder, up stairs. LaugnIer)
@. And ala you proceed 10 say IN this connection
or say at all, IN any lniervlew ~ haven't any de;
pray Tor death as happy release from all my
trials ana trouble; and feel that II publish now
q cara IL VII only be temporary reliei that Mr..
Tiltou Is likely TO break out again at any other
time, ana iee that physically and mentally am
unable any longer TO bear this strain, and prob
ably shall never come 10 see you agaInW A. No,
sir; never had any CONVERSATION having that
] perceive in that representation the converse
lions that were nad, but entirely dinerent ana 10
q different drlt.
ply, "Mr. Moulton win stand by you. and no
matter what co nes 10 you Will always be your
friend; and am convinced that the only way out
OF THIS trouble Tor you by telling the trutnfo A.
/ don't remember any such conversation.
q. Did you vhereupon, or Ia any conversation,
say to ner that you would come to see her on the
day following, that you had some gifts that you
wished 70 dispose of--some little mementoes Tor
different peope-somethlng which you wanted her
TO bear 10 Elizabeth, something for different
frenos, or messages which you wanted ner 10
bear FOR you, and you would come on the following
oaJ TO see nerS A No, sir not a word; pure abb
soiute dream or fiction.
interview say 10 Mrs. Mouiton. dio YOU tell ner,
either with or without ears streaming down your
lace, that you mad sunered
THE TORTUREs OF THE DAMNED,
that you we're Obliged 10 go home and wear
cheerful smile wnen you appeared In the pulpit
You must appear at your best, mat the slightest
indication OF weakness was confession OF weak
ness your part, so that really she was the only
person 10 whom you could 90 ana act your natural
SELL as TO her you could unveIl your whole hearts
struggle-dld you say any thing OF that ktndf A. 1
SAID something Ike that, sir, 6nt In 10 such con-
nection or pointing In any such direction as tnat
d. Now sir, please state in what connection or
nature, II at all A. IL was Ia a conversation or
whether 4 should endure any longer the straiR
and struggle to carry forward this trouble In con-
cealment or by silence unuer the lncessant provo
cations and dispositions OF Mr.. Tilton TO leak at
sveay siae sne @ up new na 4np h .as
got TO come 10 a head; would not stand the
wear and tear under any conditions much
longer; that 1t would wear me out, and that
should meet the matter aud should bring IL TO the
surface, and have disclosure and have the thing
settled; That 10 the substance.
q. Now, when, II you can state was any such
conversation mad In which what you have last
stated pore partf A. II boresa part on SATURDAY
morning OF May the 3lst, think. sir.
z. call your attention 70 some statements OF
Mrs. Moulton IN regard 10 reports which she made
10 you concerning interviews which she had had
with Mrs. Iilton-diu Mrs. Moulton port 10 you
any con versation she had had with MIS- TIion in
these words or 70 this nature and eject, that Mira
TIlton had said that she had felt very sorry tor
Mrs. Moulton, even more sympathy Tor ner than
for herself because she tArs. Moultonl has lost
faith 10 Mr. Beecner, because she Mrs Moultonl
was unable any longer TO attend the church, and
that she mrs. Tiltonl begged her mrs. Moultonl
TO 20 back to the church ana believe IN Mr..
Beecger and that Mrs. Moulton mad SAID, ELIZA
beth, how can you ask me to 20 back to the
church, how can you ask me to take communion
from his hands, knowing what dofn Sne said II
want you 10 believe 10 him; be is good man; he
has repeated or the crime; l am the one who Is 20
blame; 1 invited hlm;" Mrs.. Mouiton replied. ~
think might hear MI. Beecner preach, and perhaps
might derive some benent rom his sermons, but
eau never 20 BACK 10 tue church with the anne
feeling that / mad In him years before.n Did Mrs.
MOultOn say anything Ike that TO your A. No,
sir; she never reported any such CONVERSATION as
that, nor do think IL possible for her to look me
In the face and say the hall or X.