New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-19
SOME GENERAL DISCUSSION.

ing before the Board adjourned resolution might have
been proposed upon this subject, might there not'
Mr. BeachLThat don't object to, Sir that VIC don't
object TO- If there any action of the Board
except in the light in which 1 have suggested to
your Honor that the Board had sort OF jurisdiction over
this subject and it very certain that no resolution was
passed upon this subject that all they propose to show
general discussion among the members upon topic which
ssy did not fall within the legitimate business Of the Board OF
Deacons.
Judge Ncson-wcil you think. constituted as they WERE
aud convened they were thai resolution might have been
presented on this subject.
Mr. Beach, don't think Sir II could have been properly
presented to the Board because think have shown your
Honor from the Manual that the Board had jurisdiction OF
the subject but quite agree Sir that although the proceed
ings Of any Official body require to be reduced TO wiring
in the form Of record yet IL there should be any inadver-
tence or irregular omission OF the recording OF resolution
of an action by Board that il be proved by paro
But will your Honor consider, there being no resolu
ton of that body being condensed into
form expressive OF the unanimous or majority opinone
Board but consisting merely Of discussion conversa
tona otherwise the members OF the Board In whch
they may expressed individual opinions how is possible
that that evidence gven The gentleman has presented
an anho where resolution being offered and not seconded
is MOI entered upon minutes because there is deermnate
OF the Board OF the body according to this rule The
be entertained and acted unless sec
onded being seconded it does not become part OF
action properly going upon the record but understand
the offer to be simply to show discussions which bad
among different members of the Board at that meeting
sabmt that irregular aud incompetent for that reason that
il did deermnate and official shape and for the
further that the subject not within the coguizanco
| OF that body
Judge Nelson Mr. Shearman you stated moment ago the
precise thing propose to prove to wit that the subject
was brought upcsd up aud the conclusion not to take
any action in respect to it. Is that 1t ?
Mr. Shcarman-Ycs, ST
Judge Nelson going into the conversation dis
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versation.
Mr. shearman We don't about the conversation.
Judge Nelson Very well Now you prove just that. IL
| you will conine yourself TO that.
| M Beach-M ask your Honor
Mr. Shearma-I Mr. Beach thinks that Of his obec
tonss II he will just allow state the Deacons
are practically governing body Of Plymouth Church subject
to the Itself They have by Rule 2 to snpern-
tend all affairs not actually charge OF other officers Of the
church They given that general authority suppose
am meeting Brother Beach going to say The Exam
lining Committee is empowered to investigate accusations but
il not even empowered by express terms to institute
cations There be doubt that the Board Of Deacons
power to pass resolution nstitutng an ACCUSE
| ton
| Judge Nelson-Or recommending 1t.
| Mr. Shearman-Or recommending one although when made
il woud have to be tried by Examining Committee and the
! power Of the DeacOns wOnld end.
Judge Ncson-They might taken some nitatoy step
! Mr. Shearman-Thai is it.
| NcsOn-Aud
precise proposition
Mr. Beac-Wi your Honor please consider for single
moment in what attitude this question would be placed by such
ruling understand your Honor to intimate that they may
proye that the subject suggested before this Board and
| may prove the conclusion
| Judge Neison-?roye that no action vas taken.
Mr. Beach-Whatf
| Judge Neson-That action was taken.
Mr. Bcac-Well that very well Sir 10 prove that no &C
ton taken that quite another thing but they cannot
proye conclusion without necessarily involving the
ton OF the different members OF the Board being admitted
that no resolution passed. that there was no formal dis
cusson opinion conclusion OF the body as body
yor Honor rules that they give the conversation the
declaration OF the different members and the gentleman wit
ne cannot give the conclusion unless be POUNDS that upon
very declarations and your Honor would then be- THINK
running against Of law which would prohibit the wit
ness from giving conclusion derived from the conversation
instead OF the conversation itself and submit that that would
be Objectionable in double Sir II they give that
proceeding ALL must be through the medium Of the con
vcrsation the declaration Of the diferen! members
Judge NeisonWe have all this virtually as far az we have
had any light the subject 1t reasonably well ap
pears that until Nj West brought this subject up by
| charges. the church took notice OF II.
Mr. SheamsnAn1 that your Honor has been brough, for
! ward a argument upon the other side
Judge Ncilson-Oh, don't know.
Mr. Shearman And act action under the inhu
Of Nj Beechet Now what undertake TO show is,
that this very question OF action considered when Mr.
Beecher present and they entirely free from his
| influence.
Judge Neson-well now you 10 put three questions il
| you viii allow me 10 assist you
Mr. Beach-We have objection your Honor peases to
their proving that this subject suggested at that meeting
OF the Board and thai OF Board taken
| Judge Neison-Well, we will get at it directly then.
MI Besch-But that is very far from the question whether
that WAS Influenced at all by Mr. Beecher Mr. Beechers in
nnence proceeds far wider than his immediate presence
JUDGE Nclson-l had not that mind al ALL Of Mr.
Sherman il you will allow TO assist YOU first ask II Mr.
Bcecher present that evening
MI ShearnanWas Mr. Boecaer there gu that evening VI
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