New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-08-16

feet. NJ. Al.
$500 n spikes and Nails
The aggregated the estimate being 1865. and BY
@Ss IN yU q" T sss Now @ me cali
tention to what the law requires The law requires nat
uuany Of Pc and
quantity and quality OF all materials Ihat "ouio ''''
'e O. ut that don't even purport 20 be- and when we
into consideration the fact that the engneer VINO
third quantity A. You can take that It into CON
before u.s. as he before you would probably have
sent him bacl for something else
@. Look aad please give me the quantity OF ehc"''-
O. The first quantity for bans and dranip ,s. nYcy
been change OF pan-uone such the law prescribe.
unless the Legislature assumed to do it, and they didn't
sr,tiS1qs the ses lt IN The ,s Sn tims
Of 5000 ballng and draining in part, oo ,... wanda
% G%o ys Gac %e $40 a
Sn S Sss nn s ss So sge e fiI h%oeR feet
3 Ss;ans e.. cubic y i:e gfIs: sD ys
o1nds Wrought iron nc P. .s Loose sse ,se sse feet
And other quantities for labor which is of
qurnce Now. You will perceive the difficulties under
which the Commission laborcd; we looked ior ,hap;
fluid any; for a measurement. and We did not find any;
and the engineers whose duty ut tbat !nc was 10 iike
they not made. a. They made guam
O They gave arbitrary quantities.; The way the Com;
mission understood this s they divide the amount OF
money certain quantities ut approximate prices, hnl
we think have ascertaned that fairly mean by flr
and reasonable deductions from the wholc caso' n iou
mean having reference 10 appropriationSf
q. Yes SIR the amount or money appropriate by tue
LEGISLATURE. A. think are right III youi coiclnr on
@ FAKE the other statement that appears here A.
knew lothng about at the time but since the 'hne h''s
| been Investigated. think that Is so.
BY Mr. Higelow-Woud that have been possible II the
fully estimated by cross sections by the cnginecrsi A.
am not engineer. but | should simply answer your
be- and should suppose engineer who un'ersiooh ms
business would nearer than that on what me work
al
ncnt and wall OF different KINDS.
| DIFFICULTIES EEsErTlNG THE COMMISSION.
| BY Mr. Magonc-Q We're you aware, Governor, that
there any map up to this day, showing the changes
that made that can be foundi A. What changes 40
| you refer to
O. Where they straightened the canal. Just what
would be implied by the letting; 10 straighten it, A.
am aware whether there vas one or not suppose
there isn't any from what read in the papers.
O. want 10 call your attention 10 another point.
There being such pap, how can this Commission or
any other rational person arrive at the gae, o. 80
made under this contract A. suppose 10y neasurng IT,
q How can you measure who're You dont klo" we
line The people q don't suppose yon can get the
amount exactly. but / understand yOu, You have al
tempted it and have come reasonably closs 10 H.
| O. We have III this way We have tlhen me od sur
vey and plotted this work over It, so TO speak, - nearly
aswe en- but yon are aware, s1ppoIr una. .'ei
call Your atten ION 10 the tact 'hat tDa' mas Dfe
dsregarded here which !. an3h@l 10 our nwrr
nIadc. A. You understand am not swearing 'h''
| O. No; I understand You with the limit that is
thrown upon IL here. A an swearing that there vas
map shown there. and what pufpotcd 10 bc III arSoiu'
with the law and should swear 80 no" II diu not
see the eSidence a., .,o. .,no,,
10 WoulA vou Come that conclusion i. have not
had the Impression upon my mind by hearing TIE eN'-
| dcnce that YOU have
ANOTHER REASON FOR THE COMMISSIONERS BELIEF.
| Mr. Biglow.-Q The first proceeding OF the Board Oh
the Il Of July tho reading of the report by Bias
com the Canal Board. The Canal Commissioners hav-
ing examined The maps, plans, and estimates TINS day
presented by T. L. Crocker, Division Engineer for the
construction OF following works towit, cnumerat-
ing different pieces OF WORK, among which was
this work IN question: hereby approved the Same and
recommend their adoption. This signed by Bascom
and John d. Fay. Canal Commissioners This is fol
lowed by the resolution offered again ny Mr hascoih
THAT the plans and estimate. TINS DAY submit
ted to Canal Board and having bccnapproved by the
Board OF Canal Commissioners be adopted and the wo'k
| advertised for letting" Sc.
Now, have you had the curiosity to see whether
port by Mr. Baseom aud Mr. Fay Canal Comni soner.i
CATION had curiosity about IL nn saw the report
OF the Commission. but haven't been there TO look
O. Before went into print on this subject We dd
take the trouble TO send TO hir Thyer and ask MN 70
produce the minutes of the Canai Commissioners before
s and the following testimony Was produced on mat
| point: s. AZ,
| particular contract! A. 4 resolution offered by Mr..
aseom that notices be issued fo proposals to construct
ceedng to the list of works which you will
I remember"
O. This is included with conrac;s for the removal Of
| wal beuches o the Erie Canal. &c.i A. YES SIR.
@. There is previous entry relating TO either OF these
works the records Of the Canal comnissoncrs' A. As
far AZ ascerained have found nothing previous
| 10 that a., 90,
Cnnissoner. 10 tho action Of the Canal Board author
ling the letting Of this contract A. II docs. o. 80,
can find the Board of Canal Com ms-ionrrs. In refer
to this contract, prior TO such action OF the Canal
O. And understand you to ray that that the uni
form usage 10 take any action upon any work Tor eA
them to belet A. TO he let for extraordinary repairs
O. leah your attention to that Mr. Governor 10 show
another very conclusive reason why no sort OF npor-
he attached To the record made here OF papers
that had been examined and approved OF by the
Canal Com".siSner a. can course seS mat po' tbG
Commissioners had actually taken EXCEPT What they
and didn't attend their meetings and if they had said
Here copy Of record and had produced book
amer il very quick lust they after the maps if
! they hadn't been there Isthis all you want Of met
O. don't know of anything else a. Here are one OF
two things that want TO suggest Have you got your
HE wness-Now, viii, reference to the third Of yonr
ndg, N the e a n ep and syeyor
duty it was 10 submit item never submitted any such
survey map estimate, with his approval liaior>'h
thereon or flied any such documents in his Office Now
does submitted any or that these were
O. II don't saw So Now, Governor. be fair. A. with
out any preliminary survey or the production OF any .,n
law required !" when in says ANY SUCH, 1t means any
| such as the Law requires.
AN ADMISSION BY MR.. BEACH.
| BY Mr. Magone-Q. Isn't 10 fair logical Deduction
from te aa,rs before u.s. rs described in the evidence
A. think So from the evidence you have before you
O. Can YOU throw particle of light on this subject
that would go to change your honest conviction OF our
conviction OF our conclusion being correct A. cannot
say definitely unless can see that map
O. Our conclusion that you acted in good faith
| a.. ttt.t.r fu.l liz n. q