, 1875-08-17


church without notice. 1ro ronttcd, "atr m.
tI,or;ty vna fr,,rn lin or1 m gYsts" I Will ~
on. and my fr1rm,l rcmsrkcI tint wns ,,ot n ms,
Who halon1oi In lin XII, St+crt fthurrl, nj nrrs.
unt ;'ue conId moi got porvr,s IN lin.
N,-What III, yc,I think lrtt to tllls nrtion
Mr. hi IN ;,ulouiedly
rAur Or .rurvr
Ia kn,tarr 1s1)r-csiskim. nfei1l;t3 acalnht ma
li,ero it ~, tlpubt 11,u1it1: IL r.oo1-rlrcnn fnr
1ntLtna, win was i1stru,uu,tql in brlnr1n,, him
To the ,,.y. @ ''
J,.-iiayo vou determined
wtsr c,y1,4t IN ry,nst;r.
3rr. D--yca; t,ayn taken nu nction ,or al,ndc,
against him, i1o would moi gIyo h;s authority
aid hal no other alternative. am also h1v.
ins I,arors prepared to n1rcss him on n rn,;ias
| and hato lawyer nj work rreparinF, 4 chs.rn /"
Ln preferred against hin, at t},n ,cIt r,nYrtr,rc
Of s1,o Church. j bolleyo lutKi,,. il inrttr,,rd
i'll, tho thing, ami .hal! kco,a II street wat,h upos,
| him. Tley wtIl tl,,tl that p1a!I Il .ht Ind.
l!.-lou haro no knowledge ns t., VIA: iii tn
| yuur cxrulsun7
Mr. D-A1l 1 can think of IL
rrElrrtcr
I which exists arnlnet mo. betanab ft,r1iahe
money to build tho church. They uwe l1lr = ,nttl
now, and have frequently told tholn ! 'vnlI
como ont il tItey vui,Id scitt II. = o..j.cs to
such au arrangement.
The Times tnn,, a.rfrcd in while tllta co,,vcr-
HRtou waB proceettIiH. On Ie:lyuy no WAS
called to ono nlc by ,lr. I}ruwt,, asni oftvrol
a,n,llnr inelncpmont to tint rendered rnE THin-
rSE representative to tircss up things to Ills
| croIit.
| IN. JrTKzSs.
Ae ,rr. Jut1t;na' nano lad been rathor freely
handled Il, thu al,nye Interview, tho reporter do
clded tu gel llis rieWa ur tlfb matter. Mr. int
[ kEns declared l,iH entiro lsnornnce nf whnt had
| boon <tnlA r alr. DciDing. And also "a tn Mt.
| Browns pnbse4nent movements.
Rtport"r-1a it competent fur a minister to net
| on his uwn responsibility in HI grayo matter
DR.. ,}ustns--'rl,e lar Of Tho Church Ia shat. In
for wait Of tinio any other REASON, tho pastor
IL justified in excluding person from Eunl-
mnnion. Tho cAHtkes would llayo to hn nla,io
out and investigated lit proper form afterwards.
N--1iut can ho gtvo hntee Ut TINT kind OH
ffs individual responsibility 7
Ur. lilo cau. This matter Is an. tlnnsuni
QUO. mud may possibly ho open to criticism i; but
don't know What the fncss mo.
H:-Noull Mr. De'niaE, who Is stranger. 10
likely to .finow nnythiuY about Mr.. brown to
justify him In taking thus elcr2
IaE. J.-lIo could not be tiYd minutes In tho
church without learning Mr. l,rown'a cnasac.cr.
Ihcre Rro not above four or tlyn tnen in tho
church. "ho DO not know !llm to be
1oubtE-nYHi' scnTSbnE14.
Tho trouble to he ls adroit enough always to
cover his tracks.
R.-If he IL II, sucl, bad Ecrntc, why should
hn cling to tho Church I
Dr. J.-Slnlply for advertisement Thfa sort
Of nosorety ii money to him. lilo gets into tho
papors, alld contrives TO keep his tla,ne before
tho public. Whether Bnch nction ia honorable
or not is Of no consequence to him.
.nr. Jutkins t1on reatel instances Of Mr..
Drowu's skill iu advertising IN this why.
N.-Nr. brown cnnls tu have
MONEY IN THE cNuntn2
Dr, J.-lt IL doubtful whotLer l,e hnH or not.
II llo raid hia snbsc'lp lptuns the !,nlatco would
bC Oil tho other th!e, ALL informed.
N-alr llrown charges yut With tnstigating
this matter?
Dr. III lad nothing 10 do with I. Tho ac-
tlotI wns entirely unexpected, and Ms. Detniny
assumed tie responsibility. Mr.. Brown probably
takos tint vieH because am pastor Of tho
church by virtue nf my position ns Presiding
Elder, and that 1 NH Responsible for all tho leEal
processes Of the church.
R-"i!l tho Trustees suatain h[s. Doming In
Dr.. J.-l cannot SAY; hayo not rcen any Of
them. ntn. however, worry eute OF thls on gen.
sral princir!cB: tint any action tn pnce Mr..
brown outside tho church Will be sustained by
every alicia! member Of tho church.
R-IIuW about
THE CONSIDERATIONS?
Dr. J.-Yon Gun judge for yourself. Outside
Of three or four people ho Las hot sing1o friend
in TIES church. lilo has been utterly uIsfellow-
shipped In sEcry eenae OF tho word. The elec-
ton Of Trustees disclosed that fact. The only
trouble H. ho hna 30 conccalol his hands that 1t
In difficult to provo transactions which arc known
to 10 truo.
H.-1f Mr.. brown should bo kept out Of tho
Dr. J.-Yes, Hlr; he il tho only miacAiof-mak-
or, except tho two or tlroo hayo named, whom
lie tlscs NJ his tools.
k.-"has will you do 70 nsHist Mr. De,n!ng iii
tho caHo brought agaiust l,lui2
Dr.. i'll atn unable to Say. We will have to
ac4ualnt ourselves OF tic facts beiuro l can
state anything gu that pont.
stIt. DEMlNd.
saad ~ an1 H. na,lin nuuf: tnv reporter mall