New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-03
THE WITNESS MEMORY BAD.

O. You say she went out before Mr.. Tracy did
She might have gone before Mr. Tracy came. don't re-
membet
O. Oh How could she 90 before Mr. Tracy when you
said she was upstairs when Mr. Tracy was in your
roomf A. Well think must have been mistaken there.
@ Mistaken again; very we'll Now, Mr.. 0vington, will
give You the farest opportunity set this matter straight II
you any recollection the subject A Well should
ike to do 1t IL could.
Q Well, should like to You. A. My recollection u.s.
that Mrs Tion came in perhaps in the middle OF the after
noon, and came 10 my rOomh remember right my We
not then-and said to me- II would like to be
alone for moment, il you will allow TO up stairs and
asked Bible She left the room, and supposed she went
up stairs.
@ Well now 90 on! A. Then my recollection is that Me-
Tracy in towards evening and after stopping for few
out, believed, to Mr. Beechers, and in
Q. Beecher'sf A. And IN a few moments again returned
Q. Yes wellt A. Well then think Mrs Tilton came in
with Judge Morse and had that interview in the back paror
time tina; elapsed between these interviews cannot re
call.
@ Well Mr. Tracy them and Mrs Tlton absent from
your house the timer A Yes, Sir; Mr. Tracy for
few moments; Mrs Tlton for an hour or two.
q About half hour you told me Mr.. Tracy absent!
A. Ye- Sir; perhaps as long as that.
@ DO you know OF your knowledge that they did not
meet outside OF your A. not III the street 70
@ Well. you don't know then, do youf A. No.
q Now what makes you think Mr.. Tracy left to 60 to
Mr.. Beecherf A think he made remark to that
effect.
@ To whom did he make that observation A 10 my wife
and myself
O. Any one else present? A. No Sir.
Q up the Of Mr. Tracys return after he left
your house. had he met Mrs Tlton: A. Not that
know Of
did he occupy in' A. The second time Thick it wa
upsairs: won't bc sue.
q. And who with him upstairs the second une' A
think only my wife
@ Where were you' 4. was present.
O. Well. then YOU thcref A. Yes, Sir my wife and
myself
Q And it in the paor that the second call va
msde' A. think not; won't be II might have been
down-tsrs.
O Then you are wrong there AMIN ace yonF A. Yea
@ You told Il moment that it was in the parlor
thnkf A. Well it might have been in the parlor.
Mr. Hl-Stop moment.
Mr. Beach-Whst you hOerng to He f1r'
Mr. Hill didn't
You making great noise there about some
thing
The wness-I gave very little attention the matter. and
Il Ia all indistuC,. YOU know.
Mr. Fullerton think my sdveraries excusable for
being nervous sir don't complain. lro the Witness 1t
all indsnc, j. rs A. Rather 50; yes Sir
O. Well. do you know any thing about IT. \. oh! know
good deal about yes Sir. Ispscs Of time and all that
q Then vii you tell whether you know whether the
second interview with Gen Tracy in the pnllor in the
up stair.' A. You refer to the second interview
Mr. Tracy alone. when Judge Morse present
q rcfer u just what Is c.brrcd IN my question:
Mr. Eyarts That il whs, hc has asked yOu-What
srsced in your question.
Mt Fulertou-Thai is wins, r. oaght kn,w without ask
ing.
Mr. Ryars-Oh. don't know that.
Mr. Fullcrton-Well don't know that you DO.
The winessI think The chances that it upstairs.
Z The clsnr,s upstairs. How long did thai in
tervc~ cannot say really. II might have been
minutes aud might have been half h1u, and ii might
nave been Eve minutes.
Where Mr. 1iioa during hat ,econd interview up
nairs which m, have been half hour DO you know
whether she had returned the house not: A. No, Sir
she hsd not; she mus: have been Al home fhnk
z Where did NJ Tracy after he left your room, thai
being ended up there A cannot be
sehet he left the hOu~c whether he didn't stay until Juds
Morse in the evening
q Then you don't know whether he taid until Judge Morse
came or moi do yoa' A. cannot be sure.
q Did he back ser leaving .f.er Tia; interview:
With judge Morse:
q After leaving your house the second time the interview
being closed, did he A JUS remarked that don't
remember whether he went away.
@ Well IL he did Lot 20 away why did stay 4 He ssid
with until Judge Morse came
U Are you 81 tha' now A Ths' is INV impression
y You sure however, you: A. cannot be sure
no. Sir
@ Did Judge Mor,e come while you and Nr Tracy were
ning in your upper during tina; interview! A. No, Sir
that ia the back IarlOr.
Q No; you don't understand my question, Mr.. ovngos
Dung interview psiairs;he second interview upstas
did Judge Morse come house! A. No, Sir up-stIre
Judge Morse the house when in the par!or
q. Aud was Mr.. Tracy in The psrlor' A Yes, Sir
o. Then he went your upstairs into the parlo
didn't he' A. caLnot remember, Ss.
q How , A. csnnoi recall.
y Can you length Of time that elapsed after your
Interview upstairs ended before Gen Tracy in the
pariors A. No. Sir; cannot.
q STAY il have been hour A. ]. might have been Per
hsIs
o II might have been an houri A. l, might have been
O. Do you whs, time Mr. More and Mrs. Tion
Vas # before after your interview upstairs in The
ended A Oh ! il wa after.
u How long after! A. When Judge Nors il must
tsve been pretty nearly g O'Clock.
O. In the evening A think So
O In the evening it! A. Yes Sir
O. And how long your interview upsairs second
interview up-s,sss Jour recommended A don't remem
q About how long was it, A. csnno. rwsl it now
q. Two hourss A. cannot tell.
O Yoa cannot tell whether two three hours
your A. No, Sin
q Howl A. No, Sir.
Now you say Jon don't know whether Gen. Tracy
away after the second interview Judge
Morse arrived understand yOu 10 ray sof presume he
mast have gone away, tut cannot recall.
O You don know whether he went away not A. No,
ht A. Yes Sir.
Can VOC tel N, where In your house during that
90 or three housf A. there three hours
O. Yom have told ths; you did not know whether
two or three after the interview usars closed before
Jadge Morse came : A. Yes, ST.
q Whatever Interval u Was, whether u hour
,,re. can YOU tell where Tracy In the boGe be
a,tr hat srOd A