The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-17
DEBATE IN THE SENATE.

WASHINGTON, Jan. 10. 1875.
The Senate resumed to-day the consideration OF
the resolution OF Mr.. Schurz, instructing the Ju-
dietary Committee to inquire what legislation by
Congress Is necessary TO secure TO the people OF
Louisiana their right of self-government under
the constitution, DC, &c.
Mr.. SALISBURY, (dem.) OF DOL, concluded his
argument, commenced yesterday. He said the
people OF Louisiana had protested against the Ke,
logg government In every way. They had sp-
pealed to the President, but were denied hear
ing. as appeared from the telegram OF Attorney
General Williams informing the committee It need
not visit Washington He argued that the oppos-
zion to the Kellogg usurpation elected a decided
majority to the Legislature but Kellogg
had arranged the Returning Board to
suit himself, and the members legally
elected were counted out by tho Board.
Referring to the events which took place in New
Orleans on the morning Of the 4th inst he said 1t
was only BY permission OF Kellogg that members
OF the Legislature could enter the State House.
He argued that the Organization OF the
under Witt was perfectly legal. After Wilt had
been sworn In all the members, both democrats
and republicans, arose and took tho oath, thus
recognizing Witt as Speaker.
Mr.. SHERMAN, (rep) OF ohio, said as he under.
stood the facts no republican members had been
sworn in by Witt.
Information that 1o2 members OF the Legislature
were sworn In BY Wltz. Three members OF the
house OF Representatives were present at the
organization OF the Legslature-Messrs. Sheldon,
Morey and another whose name he coud not re.
call. When Witt called upon the members OF the
Legislature 20 stand up and take the oath OF ONCE
there were seven or eight colored members In the
rear OF the hall who did not arise, aud the three
members Of the other House OF Congress who
were there went 10 them and told them to stand
up, which they did.
Mr. SALISBURY resuming, said there never had
been question OF so much importance as this
presented to the American people. 1t involved
the liberties OF the people Of the whole country.
Well might Mr.. Evarts say In his speech at Cooper
Institute, q few evenings since, that when this act
was done In one State 1t was done In ALL He INT.
Salisbury believed there were men all over the
country who would respond to that sentiment,
but no regretted exceedingly that 1t did not nnd
a proper response on the other side OF this Cham
Der. He argued that there was a rapid tendency
toward the Capitalization or power In this coun-
try, aud that the States to be depleted OF the
rights guaranteed to them under the constitution.
Every Senator on the other side who had spoken
had sought to excuse the act OF the President
In his military interference, but they mad been
very inconsistent lie then read from the consti.
tuition Of Alabama the clause requiring the Lieu.
tenant Governor to prcside over the Senate dur
ing the election oil a United States Senator, when
the Legislature should meet, &c, and argued that
the Legislature which elected Mr.. Spencer did not
comply with the provisions Of the constitution OF
the State. When the democrats opposed his ad.
mission to the Senate on that ground the republi.
cans replied that those were mere questions OF
form. Now they argued that WITT was not elected
Speaker OF the LOUISIANA House OF Representa-
lives because the Clerk oil the old House did not
III the constitution requiring the Clerk
OF the old House TO organize the succeeding one
1t was simply u matter OF statute law. Senators
argued here that 1t was the intention OF the demo-
cratic Legislature TO overturn the Kellogg govern
be impeached, and the right or impeachment was
OF the rights OF the Legislature. rhcrc was
was TO be made TO overturn Kellogg by revou-
tionary means. lie would say frankly that he was
lie was pleased with It because 1t came In Il SUB.
dued and respectful tone. lie 1.-THE Presidency mad
heard the murmurlnss OF dlscontent IN TINS
by the senator from Illinois Q.oean) printed
IN the Record OF to-day, ana ne said
(Mr. Salisbury found cartoons III the Record.
The universal cry on The otner side OF the Cham.
Der had been "murder ana outrage" The speech Of
the senator from Illinois (slr LogaD) Mas not an
arguments 1t was denunciatory OF the democratic
party; an exhibition Of the skull cross bones.
Common rnmor said this exhloitlon OF a dearh
head, &c, was an effort 10 prepare tie puDlc
mind Tor the republican party taking military
possession oil LOUISIANA, Mississippi, ArKansas aud
Alabama and he diu not know now many more
Southern States, and to compel them to vote lor
the republican party In the neat PRESIDENTIAL cleo
ton.
Mr.. CoNKLNG. (rep.) OF N. Y, said the remarks
o! the Senator reminded HIM oil certain newspaper
enterprises, where newspapers sometimes Lad
news exclusive. the Senator was the only one
who had tue news that these States were to be
taken possession OF oy the military power.
Mr.. SALISBURY SAID If the Senator minated
MIR. CONKLING SAID II the Senator mad heard such
rum0rs he had capacity Tor hearing greater than
any other Senator. lie did not say the Senator
had concocted the story, therefore tue remark he
(Mr. salisbury made III reply was exceedingly
out OF place. II the Senator wished to out upon
him an anront 10y the nse OF dlscourteous IAN
guage he (Mr. Conkling) would not avoid any oc-
caslon he might seek Vi that kind. lie would say
to the senate or II he coun observe good man.
ners and decency in debate he would not shrink
from entering upon the contest, even with the
offensive the remarks he made"
Mr.. SALISBURY said that he inferred that the
Senator (Mr. ConKling) intimated that ne (Mr.
Salisbury put the rumOr In circulation. Wnen tile
Senator from New York rose in his place and said
he (Alr SALISBURY put such rumor IN clrcuia.
indignlty to any Senator, put, so help his God, no
Senator should oncr an anront to nlm. IL the
sorry for what he said. but he would not tamely
submit to what ne deemed an insult, even before
the majesty Of the Senator from New YORK: u
It now or hereafter IN his own way.
Mr. CLAYTON rep Of Ark, SPOKE ,so Of the exist,
years past. and said It would be seen that the
White League OF to-day was but the Ku Kux OF
two years ago. He knew the organization did
exist in Arkansas, for 1t became his duty as Gov.
ernor OF the state to investigate the matter. He
read extracts rom the Louisville COurier-JOu,raI
and the Houston (Texas) Telegrdph Referring 10
Tennessee he said the state was handed over five
years ago, by treacnery, TO democratic rule, and
read from the report OF the attorney Tor |
the Western district or that state In REFER |
ence TO the trouble last summer sent to the |
senate by Attorney General Williams. He quoted |
from the despatch OF Governor Garland. OF Arkan- |
sas, to the President, and said A. II. Garland who |
styled himself Governor OF Arkansas, had informed
the President that there were no Ku klux In that |
state. Uf course not, because when the democrats
came into power they Immediately became state
militia and were armed by the State In the |
state OF Arkansas, OF the 500 while democrats
who murdered negroes not one suffered the ex-
IRENE penalty OF the law. He would ask the Sen. |
ator from Tennessee (Cooper) II ne knew OF |
any IN his State.
Mr.. COoPER-Yes, several.
Mr.. CLAYTON said he would inquire OF the Sena.
tor rom Georgia (NIr. Norwood) II he knew OF any
In his State?
Mr. Nauwoon said the Snnator Irorn Arka |