The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-02

tor OF the Tndependentp A. lie was co-proprie-
tor ana when took editorial cnarSe VI tho pa
per he was sole proprietor.
q. Were you intimate associates and friends
n go, ior what perlo1S A. The nrst two weeks !!
subsequent 20 that we worked hand IN nand Tor
years ia the establishments Of Plymouth church,
and he more Than any other man being active IN
the analrs OF the church saw N almost every
day.
Had anything then occurred TO interrupt your
relations with himf A. Yes. sir.
I, Q. what situation OF the paper led TO your cis-
solution OF your connection with it4 A. During
the period OF the reconstruction measures. after
had lett the Independent IL pursued line 70
letter, In the month OF August, the Indepen-
dent criticised me 50 severely at the time that
the whole public were down on me pretty much.
with the exception OF the democratic party, and
felt that the paper which had helped to fashion
rom IT'S Dirtn was now beng used against me,
ana | came to the conclusion not 10 main tain q
connection with II, and gave notice, according
TO tie contract, TO terminate the agreement
q. what was the form and extent OF your con-
nectionf A. Thaye an i'm preston that ii was TO
furnish one sermon weeg and that was TO fur-
nlsn an article weekly; got compensation under
10 the terms laid down IN the contract.
O. From that time forward, MI. Beecher, what
were your relations with Mr.. Bowen up to Decem-
Der, 1870 A. Well SIR, they were much dmn-
ished and there was considerable degree OF
coolness; Mr.. Bowen was all this time pew holder
OF the church; ne was not an active member OF
tue church.
In his characteristic way he told how the DISCO
luton OF his connection Wits the Independent came
about. He wrote the Gle veland letter, and oil the
republican party-with the exception OF the demo
Gratis, ne naiveiy added we're down upon him.
The Independent criticised him more severely than
he thought he deserved, and disruption OF rela-
tons followed.
Q. Mr.. Beecher what time did you first form
the acquaintance or Mr. Tilton A. l recollect
MIN. u recollect right, when he was employed on
a newspaper. (Mr. Beecher was Understood to
say that the name OF the paper was the Gt00e.l II
| recollecg right my n ST acquaintance with him
was Unen he was shorthand reporter.
Beecher met Tton when the latter was short
hand reporter on now deiunct New York paper.
nlton was comely and agreeable, ana Beecner
employed him to report his sermons. AS nlton
heard TINS part OF the evidence ne seemed 10 come
for q moment under the spell OF Beecner's SYM
pathetic voice. Tears came TO his eyes, and ne
cropped his head FOR moment on his breast. In
the early DAYS Bsecher had been very kind to TIL
ton, and said he, zone OF the conditions on which
/ took the paper was that he should be my as
sistant.n
wttuess-I cannot remember II he was then re-
porting anything from Plymouth church; Mr.. Bur-
lis secured tne services OF Mr. TilLon to report Tor
him sermons which be Intended to publish IN Q
volume.
O What was mis- state and condition OIL feS A.
He was very young, and or engaging presence
and comely appearance; his address won my sym
patty rom the first.
O. From that time In what form and in what
degree did you become associated with him on
the paperS A. saw MIN q good deal; saw him
before 1880, because he had transferred his reIa-
lions from the Observer to the Independent used
after that TO see him frequently, whenever was
IN town, IN connection with the independent; our
personal relations on both sizes were very
cordial
@ We're You and he in the habit OF conierrlng
together regarding q common interest, the pro-
prietary interest OF the paperf A. lie was witty,
amusing ana very conversational, and | chatted
with him; did not come INTO close personal rela-
tlons with him until he came into the manage
menr or the paper, In 1861 thereafter Tor TWO or
three years we were together almost daily; this
was common interest OF companonship and OF
employment, and IL was downright loving on my
part
come aware OF any purpose on his part to succeed
you on The Independent? A. | 30 not know; |
have an impression that II was my desire he
should succeed me, ana so expressed IL.
q. When did you first begin 10 plan and purpose
for that position Tor bimy A. IL was In 1868.
itorg A. on. yes; that was one OF the conditions
on when / agreed TO take charge OF the paper,
that ne should be one OF my assistants; that ar
Tangement was made by me.
o. How was tne arrangemen made By which
you were 70 OBTAIN that place ior mmY A. Wnen
the proposal 70 send me - Europe came mp my
cuurch was desirous That | should be sent, but IL
was necessary that should have the consent OF
Mr. Bowen, with whom had q contract at mat
time; an arrangement was made between me aud
Mr. Bowen by which | should give up certain
vested rights: | was 70 correspond with the
/ agreed that Mr.. 11lfon should take my place for
a year and would allow nv name 70 stand Ior a
year, that SIR. Tilton mignt continue Tor year 10
edlt the paper, ana after that wouiu withdraw
my name IRON It; TINS occurred between the years
1860 and 1864; ] vent 70 Europe Ia 1903
q. Prior 10 this time. MIR. Beecher, did Mr. TltOn
aud you come INTO dl3cussIon on q public ques-
ZION A. Yes, SIR, In 1894
BRECHER's FIRST DIFFERENCE WIN Triton.
o. what Was tnat question: A. The question In
Plymouth church was whether we should c0ntfiO-
ute funds 10 the American Board OF Foreign Mis-
SONS; the discussion lasted tnree days aud was
terminated by gen raj meeting; 10 was ques-
ton OF publicity aud interest
q. wat was tae general point or the contr0-
versyf A. me general point 81 controversy was
whether Plymouth cnut ca, which had signalized
It's oeyoton 10 tne anti-siaVery cause, should COM
tribute rs tue Anti-Slavery society or 70 the Board
OF MISSIONS whIc was accused 81 pro-slayerY ten
dences or trimming; THIS ted to an animated dis
cussiOn On not speak on the question 10 tue
replied 20 Dy dr. 'TIlIon; tnere WAS a great Deal
oi discussion, lut nc dld not transcend the good
feeling mat see here court; Sir. ItitOn vas ia
favor Of throwing over the American Board.
Tllton nrst picked quarrel with Beecner as FAR
back as 1880. TIE witness resurrected . lonE-for
gotten incident ia the history u Plymouth church.
wncn an agitation occurred as 70 whether the
church should contribute 10 the AntrSlavery
Board or Missions entirely or divide it, contr.
buttons with that Board and the American Board
OF Missions. Beecacr's liberal instincts ca him 70
advocate division OF the money among ali.
Mr.. Beecher went on 10 say that II was through
MS favor the matter got It's nslGe the cnurcn
AZ the question was most unpaistaole one; Mr..
Tfton confined himself 20 showing that the Amert-
can Board was IN completely with slavery; no
thought that was the drilt or his address; while
he lhr. Beecnerl maintained the right OF others
TO subscribe 10 toe American Board II they deemed
IL proper, both the Anu-SlayeTy society and tue
American Board we're the benenclaries Of PlJ-
mouth cnurcl.
O. Now, on that occasion, Mr.. Beecher, or az
about that tune I'D you perceive on Mr.. Itlion's
part anY growing views 90 supersede you on tue
paperl A. dia. bat paid no attention 70 tt
q. At about this time did there occur any inter
rupuon In Mr. Titon intimacy IN visiting AZ your
house, Yes, sir. out cannot say there was any
very great Intimacy; he was never very often Ia
nv house, ana was not regular visitor az his
we would meet IA the street and IN shops, but
there was an occasion when he ceased 10 visit me.
o. About this time, early In the war, was there
any occasion on which Mr.. Iiltoa performed any
act OF Kindness TO- you or your iamly tnst IN
pressed you specially toward himG "A. Yes; he
was doing me nttle kindnesses, and he lid one
tpst stood out IN nv regard very specially; y was
IN reference 10 my san.
u. Dd y0u leel lt very much A. l did and !
do did So express myself togArd him.
The Court here tooK recess untA Two O'Clock.