New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-02-19

being Mr. Hawkins the Chairman Of the Board or Deseon
think Mr. shearman and myself Mr. Sherman aad my's"
both urced upon Mr. Hawkins that as fortnight OF snre"
weeks had gone by without Mr. Ton coming out ana
the scandal IL the duty Of Mr. Beechef and the Ch"ie"
do So
% o,e m,nent AJAX you about the early part d Noyen
her ts now was this not arst Of that converse
ton in the early part Of November 1872 A. II the ntsfs"
a, Mr. Ualay vas on the 18th that would be on the sh OF
November; did you ask previous
O That IA the middle OF the month vs
coming down to that Mr. Bell. Nov, the hrst point want
get nj Is whether IN the early part Of Novemberhe hrsf wees
Of November Is72-it was not the universal sen .
notice should be taken the Church Of that paoeahonI n
Immediately the publication that was the sentiment :" ~
gentlemen who were in the Church.
O Since You have referred to conversation with Mr. shem
man you perhaps remember that you Mr. Sherman at the
meeting the Friday night following that pnbcaion q" J
mott A. don't remember very likely did Mr. shearman
always here when | was.
q, Don't you remember coming TO Mr. sheHman- I'D NC
presence OF quite number OF the officers and member OF 'he
Church that Friday night and saying thar II was un'esy
agreed that word Of ausion should be made hAI
in the Chah meetng' A. cannot remember that s
O Can you not remember something like tha A. cannot
remember anything ike IT, That H. cannot remember com
ing Mr. shearman with any statement at all but that
Mr. Sherman several times in the arst fortnight after me
publication the Woodruff and Caan scandal have not the
slightest doubt and this meeting that the eosrse Of
cODNcftAlOn
O. And that the general undersa ndng among the gen
hemeny During the first fortnight II almost universal
@ Then after period and before the other conversation
to which you alluded began to be Understood did
not that Mr. Tton be rumored that Mr. Ttton Wa IN
some way responsible for this publications. Was there not such
a rumori A. II came 70 my ears, Sir
O. Was there a that he responsible Tor ihe
scandal itself way for the story or publication a
Many thought very likely he bat don 'hnk has
we had anything base 1t upon than that
q, It was q subject Of talk, was IL notl A He was
@ The faci-that supposed circumstance subject OF
conversation, was it notl A. No, Sir
@ How did you know that many Of thought So then A.
think present nearly meeting OF the member
Of the church and congregation and there several took
place after the publication Of the WooihE and Claim scandal
and the sentiment Of the gentlemen Of the church
the arst was that the thing be lie that Mr. or Mn I'll
would and contradict il and that IL was our dnS
until they did After fortnight three weeks had
passed and they did out aad contradict it. then
think the sentiment Of many in the church concured in
by yourself certainly by that il the duty then o. the
church and OF Mr. Beecher 10 take hold Of the maj ter
@. Are you qute sure s50at Mr. Beechers name being
brought in in conversation with me. NJ Bell-aboui Mr..
Beecher doing anything A not about Mr. Beeeher doing
anything. exceptngas through the church.
@. Was confined the church. A Icoud not say It wss
think not