New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-08-17

tsf, to single cantrsct you Caa. that las peo 'oS
TESTIMONY or Z. H. CROCKER.
DIVISION yNGgNwxR vOR YOUR WARS sUooEkN""
FEBRUARY. 1868.
O. The special subject OF our EXAMINATION Is
what ~ known here tie work done between for'
SCHUYLER md the Lower Mohawk Arucduct, known IN
conversation hero rs the Dcnison contract; was 'no
work under the letting Of Sept 0, lS6o; now want W
call your attention to 1t you KNOW VI Ina c'n""''
supposed A. Yer. SIR. ..... .-.
O. You recognize the eont<nct from tho paper r<o-
duccdf tcontraes shown witnesss A. Yes, SIR
O. do YOU know upon what plans specifications thnt
Gourmet was let or tsre VIA any plan or ssc
fcntion upon witch 1t was ietf A. Nes Sir thsrS ~o'
plans. .,. ... ,rI @
O. Did you see any map Of III A. There was esone
made OF it, think. h
O. nv wiomi A. co'ilh cOt say exacds ~ ~"o'''
think by some Of the draughiemen.
O WANT TO call So,r atsntion 20 an act passed 'h
1850 Section o. Charter 81 page $40, Cbspinans Mhh-
ND you Will notice that that section PROVIDES ta' "
sha Inc the duty OF THE Division En enecr to ascertain
or ose 10 bs with all practicable ACCURACY
tie quantity OF enbaDsmfnt excavaiim masonry NM
the quantity and quality OF all materials W oe
vi Other 4, ,es 81 T with in rec TO this letting
twenn Port Schuyler and the Lower Moha"R aqneaue'
% You mud the quantity added for there. as per q
hiIft sheet was 10000 .bc yards of exca'ahon' A.
Yes, - ...t, bo
O. DO You mean to say that was as near as could De
ascertaIned the quantity that was 70 he cxcaValeu
tween Port Schuyler and the Lower mona"A "i"ou'
O. Il was not asceraincd far as practicable was u
the langs &c with al practicable accuracy A. No.
O. WIS the estimate prepared with reference to s'se
sIaa nS Of o% work THAI &ss auay A lhc
estimate mad to be 80 Gsparsd, ,.s r,o,,or NJ ,n ~
nrscrro il in that way; what know is. WAY
was dohe A. The estimate Tas made WIN reiee'ioe
O. Wa there IN appropriation thesef There was yes
q. Tel Us ia what year IL was tha"c' ~ ioo'' '
" Ms ,a any such survey as was called Tor by the
OH secfi, of tie chaptrr which called your alien
ton: Was tero sugh survey was advertised tor be-
tS"n tor , @ G was IT ha he the duty Of the
Division Enginesg ascertain, or cause 10 DC aee
with ali paeS'se ou"y se trre " any % %ef S cic,
iatjor, made in engineering department OF wch .oh
division engiRee such as Is caieu if ~ 'n"' So
tionl a There careful oxaDi.ns1on ,
Q. Was fore any slch surveyF A. lhero "aS ho '''"
Instrumental survey.
AN OCULAR SURVEY.
O. Was there any such sarveyl A. An ocular survey
q IS an engineer will you that ocular sur-
v,r is srfcie,t 10 correspond with any law like this:
Before any work shall leo contracted for on any OF the
canals Of is state the Division Fnc!nctfs Shtha aocT
tain or cause asceraincd. with ali practicable ac
cu,,acy the quantity OF embankment excavation ma
sonny and me quantity and quality Of all materials TO bc
used and all items of wOrk to be placed under con-
troe statement N which. together with maps, plans,
and SPECIFIC ,tons corresponding with those use'i ana
odged By the Canal Board. and on e ID tue once OF
tho State Engineer and surveyor. SHALL he exhibited 10
the persons proposing for the work 10 he let was ut
comm ed with in any single parecuiarf A. 30 far as
practicable .
O. ask sou it WAS complied with; did you cause the
survey that il called for TO lie made; the plans and
c,lcuatio,g A. The plans and calculations did, and
TIC .,iis 81 the Oil cTOs5-scctiOns. 81 ,
O. Did yOu Rake aay surveys for cressFecto0s
O. Va ii possible fcr you te ascertain from t,e , 1d
erGss-seciions the az nlt9 TO be kca'en ~he,e ,
iino Of dc cana cii@eed-yes VI NJ A. No'
q. Was il poasiblef A. No. sir.
g. DO You Dlean TO swear here that you din cause ray
survey asy such pn' any sHch sec.ne,,s' ~, rs
0antio to DE excayaed aud the amount Of emsahn'eiI
10 bo Inaer tlai Iett.nE-ye or no! A. Ha.- A.,
crse,iOs tQuestion r4eatedA A. Nothing more than
w..at stated. ., ,,,,,,, r.f,.o 3, .,,.
q 40 you refuse TO answer a. don't refuse 10 an-
o. An,Ger NE that. A. think not.
o. AZ lar a. you could judge ulcn or nov. y0t know
there vas tan three tunes te AuGlt OF eAodVa-
tirn al orsed for didn't you a. Fes sir thai % my
o. Now did you make any specification OF the kinds or
qaanttic o. n". ; "Sf - ~, he ne''f1 10 a. ST. .
ulos to winch called your atteDtonI A. depended
on senylal s9ce,.e!t'Glis. ,, am sno.,;r, q, .be
aI1osn; material tha was necessary t" DO this WORK
- Did me e.inEti,cs that you forth IN tn, b. that
made ana used tiurins Tie time YOU Merr DIVISION
your Judgment Joe the WORK embraced IN that h'''7
u. ~. biz; nO. ~ TIE entire Work ., ~, .,, ,ro,,,
O. Now Sif. tltfe bDns 10 map cFtaih or WAS work
tlt Wa done under your super lsIcn as D'ison IN
,aneer betwo,4 Polt schuyler ana m Lower N'h'"
AUuriuct and tc lae Of TIE canal having been cinIet,
il here any possible way ia get a; Tie qaai ' IA
cIacy! :. I1ie is map eAta mat - IA V. -D~'
q Now win You swear, Sir tat there Is mar s1this
vorS Of Iogo,' chang OF hne 81 tho canal % Ii
o. Diii. you swoa yos,ceiay diet tirrc never was one
made So Ia; 10 your Luew@ ,dge cNeuded j. IEo'n al
q al; yoa didn sweer that there was no siap o,
Sol uy1er and tie Lower Mohawk hqueducti a dca't
50 understood H. ,.,, -. ,
may possibly.
No ACCURATE sURvFY, MADE.
g. Isn't fact that iher, never map plan. s',r
ycy or recshcaiion q tie WORK that let ibis
contr-cti a. Thero no new map.
@ asked you If those was any map madet a. Not
from actual survey.
g. Was there ever map made. srl ~ No new map.
O. Was there owes a map siade Vi this work a. %
mis- Is s0rki
Q. You understand what / speaking abeat-the
WORK by this contracts A. No, SIR; there ouiy u
tracing made.
@. Was there accurate survey OF any survey,
ma le for tia quantities. \. No. Sir.
q. Wa there ever any insiirintnfM survey N the
cisn$e Of liuei 4 Net until afsr the work was LEI,
except stias h,ening III a. think nOt, except the
tracing.
O. Did Won make survey "a TO The depth 1t had TO
he exciyatcd tie kind OF material com posing the
excavation 10 he macc from an actual savcy a. No.
Sir.
q. Did You cause to be made OF make yourself,
any actual survey III kind quality Of material IL
would he necessary 10 eXcavatr ! A. No, Sir.
O. Did yoa ever account for the actual bench wall in
the o,,anti A. didn't In person.
@ Did you cause IL 10 be done A suppose 1t
was done.
Q. / ddn't ssk wisat you supposed A. trusted 10
thC y. sistauts.
o. DIG you dot' A. No, Cir
O. Did YOU cause Il 10 be- done A. Yes sir.
O. WHO'RE j. the result Of inst work 4. don't know.
O. Did You 500 il! A. 3hat the portion that |
suppose was done