New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-09

q. Yea, Friday the 3Otn. NOW, suoscsluchs
publication and connected with IT, we're there any inter
views between Won and Mr. Tlton and Mr.. Moult0nf A.
There were interviews between Mr. MoutOn and me- and
Mrs. Moulton.
Was this in the morning papers Of the 3oth A. Yes.
Sir.
O The morning papersi A. In the morning papers OF
the 3Oth.
O. We'll. siri A. I saw Mr.. Moulton on that day.
Q Did you seek himi A. No, think not l won't say
about that.
O. Well where did you see him. A. 1cannot say ABOUT
that 1 merely recoleet talking with him.
O. whether Il was at his house mott A. WhetherH
at his house. whether We were Walking eanno'
say. -.
O. Very well. Now, what passed between you on that
sub,ectf A. Well he wanted to know about it-how 1t
came out told him that could not tell him; that Oil
knew that was approached about the middle OF the
week BY Ed Pord, who asked me If had any objection
to the publication Of that Trpartite Agreement" and
had said to him, "well, we are thinking the time Is
coming when ought to be published; but said he,
"suppose 1t were published In NewYOrk without
your having anything to do with it, or any responsibility
about II, would you like tr "Wel," said, there Is
not any copy there; they cannot make it," dldht
care anything that but said he. "suppose 1t was
published would tinerefere with any plan OF yoursi
said 70 him. think ought not to be published with
out some further consultation about the natter told
him further-I think the same day Mr.. Cleaveland
came to me. and had turned the matter over In my
mind, said TO him, Now, you Hiuse
go right and stop that thing; 1t ought not to Do
published in any such way :" could not imagine-I
didn't myself but Mr.. Cleveland seemed to know what
the source OF it that it published; WELL thnK
told him also of the interview that 1 had with MI
Cleavcland; am pretty sure did
O. Very well. II you told him so you may state It, A.
He went The office first, and tried TO stop IT,
and then went on up 10 Sam Wkeson's house. who was
the man that going to publish It, and who had sent
II, and it was about midnight anu he WOKE MN up
and told him what they had come for and ne SAID sam
got I'D in his night shirt and sat in the middle Of the
bed and till everything was blue IN that ROOM and
told them to 20 their business that nothing should
hinder him that his lookout and he expressed my
wish that should not be published, and he SAID ne
didn't care damn Henry Ward Beecher, nor for any
other man earth that that thing was going 10 be pub
lshed Well Mr. Moulton said that he had rather not
some plans that they had In regard to the publication
but they must let 1t and that was the general
tenor OF our conversation. also understood from him
TO say surprise to Mr. Tlton, but he was rather
glad of It, That is what understood Mr. Mouon tosay
O. when you say "he" you mean MI. Moultonf A.
understood from Mr. MoultoD that the publication OF IL
had boon gratifying to Mr.. Tlton.
O. To Mr.. Tiltoni A. Yes, Sir; he had seen him, aud
had not recollect seeing him on that day Then
the next morning sent for by Mr.. Moulton
O That would be the 3lsti A. That would be satur-
day morning 3lst He told mo that he had devil
OF time all night pretty near understood him; that
Mr. Ton on seeing the evening papers had gone up 10
Curtis and that they had talked with him and told him
that he never stand in the world, that that
would kill him. that 1t would appear from that puplca-
ton evening papers had said, that he ana Bowen
had been in league together spreading dirty stories
absit me, and that they both agreed that they had
been naughty and promised they wouldn't do 80 any
more according TO the reading OF that Trlpartite
Agreement" Well said to Mr.. Mouton, he wrote MS
own article it, it written so as to cover every
ground OF difference between him and us and when he
found out that the money sure, he slipped the
article out and just like him, fixed 1t so that pc eo1d
Keep his little grievance when he wanted to use 1t,
and have acquittance regard to all the rest, and,
now. II there any complaint, he ought not
make that complaint" He said the devil was to pay,
and something has got to be DONE" said to him that
had TO about the end OF my patience, that didn't
intend stand this thing longer and that If matters
q head, it just good time to come
to head any other, and that would not take
one single step in that matter Well was unduly
excited for q clergyman, and he soothed me somewhat
and said the could be got over; that he had
influence, he knew, enough to hold Mr. Titon, for he
informed that Mr. Tilton going to publish card
that night and that he going to include In 1t part
OF that memorandum, letter Of apology or whatever
name you choose to give it.
O. OF the LIST of January 1917 A. YES Sir, and that
Il would be- a very dangerous and very damaging affair
/ said to Nc MoultOn: "well, let him publish 1t; am
not agong to try patch this thing up and hold any
longer" said great many more things that were more
emphatic than prudent, and finally he sad "He won't
publish tonight; you may depend on 1t he amt
going publish tonight" "Well, how do you KNOWN
| think ne will He is in towering passion, you say,
aud he will do it," mo-" he said 81 can hold him;
Tlton in that way before; can hold him. and
IL he don't publish it tonight arrange it so that he
won't publish il at all" Every WELL" said l. "n any
thing OF that going to be dOne-I gained the idea
from him that he had gone down to The Eagle folks
about the matter.
MR. BEECHERS CARD OF RESIGNATION.
O. Who had7 A. That Mr.. Tilton had gone,
or going At any rate there was something that led
me to say to him: You ought go right down and
Mr. Kin elia yourself there ought 10 be consulta
ton" The Of that not confined to this case
alone; there other matters between MI kinsella
and Mr. Moulton and Mr. Bowen which led to familiar
and constant intercourse and consultations, and, there
FORE made natural to suggest that he should
have this interview with Mr. Kinsea, and he agreed to
do it, He took his ha-I rather insisted upon IT. one OF
the rare cases in which venured insist upon any
tbng-aud went with out OF the house, not far from
II; was between 10 and ii o'clock on Saturday morning,
and went down 10 my house, went up in my bed room,
the same room where the pistol scene Was ana we
chatted aud he refreshed himself and went down the
hill 10 The Eagle office, as understood afterward from
hIn-went down there. Meanwhile turned 1t over In
my mind and down and wrote card Of resignation
which has not boon put In exactly wrote 1t, but
nearly that and put 1t in my pocket That evening
went down TO his house, Saturday evening, and went
up into his study. lie up understood that Mr..
Titon was below, though didn't see him. and we sat
down and lac gave me the Of the interview that
had had with Mr. Kinsea and the general result was
nothing would be done certainly before Monday night
and he hoped that time things could be arranged
resumed the matter again and said Frank, am not
agoug to this matter any longer, and drew out
M nv pocket that card which was substantially this,