The New York herald., 1875-10-01

Bowen would 60 70 the island and would
set about my duties going TO the courts,
30; l saved great many boys from being
sent 20 the island by sending for their parensi II Is
well known fact that have been opposed 10 the school
ship, because think II mere paything in the hands
OF the Board; We reduced the expenses OF the ship
very materially; think the last appropriation we
asked for was about $4,000
Mr.. Davenport-Where do the boys go when they
Mr.. Lambeer-seven- -tenths OF them, in my opinion,
go straight 70 the devil
Mr.. Bailey here said that some things had been sug
gested TO him by Mr.. Lambeer's remarkR he said
that the system OF outdoor distribution Of coal was
raught with abuses and In his opinion ought never 10
be resumed. Hewould suggest that policemen be ap
pointed IN each Precinct 70 around and make list o
worthy persons who needed such relief This plan had
been adopted in three precincts last winter and gave
great satisfaction He would continue TO urge It's adop
on as the only practical method Of guarding against
abuses II was, however, the most difficult thing in
the world TO introduce any reform whatever
in this city.
John Quinn, Warden or the City Prison, was then
called and, after beng duly by Senator Booth
testified thai he appointed to tnat position on the
22d Of January, 1874 in the City Prison proper he had
now 4B5 prisoners In all the prisons he probably had
600 all these institutions under the charge OF tho
Commissioners Of Charities and Correction.
Mr.. Davenport-Have you any suggestions TO mako
in regard TO reducing the expenses your nsttutons
Mr.. Quinn cannot think OF anything at present
The prisons have improved so rapidly under the present
Commissioners that / cannot suggest anything myself
There no instances IN which persons confined in
the Tombs taken from il without order from the
Court No Of that kind has occurred have
been appointed; let no person go without order
either from judge the District Attorney magistrate
a coroner; know of no where any person was
taken out without such order
Mr. Dayenport-Do you remember the of NJ rs
shotwen, who was confined IN the Tombs'
Mr.. QUINN do; she from the Tombs
without an order, either by day or by night; don't
think ever was spoken to on that subject by any OF
the Commissioners.
Mr.. Davenport-Did Mr.. Lambeer ever have any con-
versation with you on the subject2
MIR. Quinn-Not on that subject; never told nm
that | had received instrUctions from the Commfs
sioners TO take Mrs Shotwel from the fombs Coroner
Croker was confined in the Tombs under Indictment
for murder; went out any time except upon
proper order; ! don't sleep in the prison; after
leave at night, John Orr, the night warden takes
charge when am absent during the day Mark Finlay,
deputy warden, Is in charge; never had any con-
versation with Mr.. Lambeer about taking Mrs Shot
well from the Fombs; ] recollect having conyersa-
ton with him about that woman; he was then
President of the Board; he said there had been an
article prepared for paper on account OF my treat
ment of her; | said 'Mr President prisoner that
Thurlow Weed furnishes counsel for afford to be
lenent to;n did not tell Mr.. Lambeer that this wom-
had been taken out of the prison the request of
Mr.. Sterne; there was no such request or order,
and such statement was made by me;
Coroner Croker never went out without an
order signed the first instance, before his full
committal by Coroner Woltman and afterward
by the District Attorney; he taken out every day
during the inquest upon Coroner Wotman order; he
taken out ut night either upon the order of
Coroner Wolunan OF anybody else; he remained out
after dark several timesprobably till eight or nine
O'Clock on these occasions he taken out upon the
order Of the District Attorney TO go TO court the
shcrilf5 having him in charge stated to that they
took HIM his wife the Court adjourned; hH
wife was sick at the time he was never out all night
for he was steady man and was very careful about
staying in prison and conforming to the rules.
Mr.. Davenport-Did you have any interviews with
John Kelly and Mayor Wckham when they asked you
to allow him TO 10 taken TO his house before coming
back from courtf
Mr. Quinn--ND, sir; / had no conversation whatever
with any ABOUT that the deputy sheris had charge
of him when he left the prison. they were Coughn
and DAILY; they the two sheriis appointed to take
prisoners from the Tombs who assigned to Sing
Sing have sometimes allowed men 10 remain over in
the Tohs for day or two after they were consigned
10 Sing Sing, II they wished TO settle any business
Mr.. Davenport requested the witness TO furnish the
committee with all the orders which he had ever
permitted Coroner Croker to quit the Tombs, and he
promised TO bring them in half hour. He then
allowed to leave the stand.
Mr.. Lambeer then recalled and, being ques-
toned the statements of the last Witness said he
had been told by a gentleman well known in the city
that Quinn had been taking Mrs. Shotwell to
iaurans and that he had allowed her TO go shopping
on Broadway Mr. Laimbeer then went to Quinn and
asked whether he had done this and he did deny it,
When asked by whose authority he had acted he said he
had done by the authority of Mr.. Sterne Mr.. Lain
thority Of the whole Board He mentioned, in further
paiation, that Mr. Thurlow Weed had interceded for
her and he promised TO do 1t no more; he never
denied having done IL before, and Mr.. Lambeer had
until then regarded him a truthful man.
Catherine Frazier was next called She testified in
substance folows:-I live at No. 205 East Thirty
ninth street, and am the mother-in-law of Coroner
Croker; remember the time of his Imprisonment in
twice, ihisks don't remember err what tt time Nof Of
the day Gesspicht i was; didn't look
q, sSeo,ns the f'ck sak no ISns IN n the
NAMED; he did not stay all night at any time;
gentlemen with him; don't know how many
but one man having him in custody that was think,
Mr. DAILY, the Deputy Sheriff; don't remember hear
ing any Of them called 'Coughn;" don't know what
at the house while Mr.. Croker there but
know there reception.
An adjournment till next Tuesday morning, at ten
O'Clock proposed and decided upon