New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-20
THE COMMITTEE AND THE WEST CHARGES.

THE COMMITTEE AND THE WEST CHARGES.
| Mr.. Fullerton Now, | ask you again, whether,
after those charges perfected and in the shape in which
you find them any advice to the Examining Com
mee In reference to their prosecutionf
Mr. Shearman-I object 10 the question has been once
answered
Judge Neson-It s allowed will have discussion about
these little things ITO the witness Answer the best way
you
The wltness-I regard a. double question: and cannot
answer 1t otherwise.
Judge Neilson-Wer
Mr. Fullerton-Wel give US double answer then
The Witnessn the first place do not regard this at all as
thus perected-as perfected it in this shape.
Judge Nelson-Well
The witness-But am conhdent-wh regard the other
part Of II. what did whether gave
Judge Neilson-Whether You gave any advice
The witness-No, gave any advice about anything
that knew nothing about
Mr.. Fulerton-Dd you give any advice to the Examining
Committee after October 6 which appears to be the date OF
OF Clerk serving copy OF the specifications A.
remember what did unless you will allow me TO refer
TO the minutes.
haven't them here to refer to Of that date have got the
minutes that | said would bring yesterday.
Were not directed to copy OF these charges
yourself, perfecedf A. No. Sir.
O. You are quite sure OF that' A. / am.
O Did you 60 on to NewHayen upon any busness' A.
did.
O With reference TO these chargesi A. did.
@ Before going Haven didn't you receive instruc
from the Committee copy OF the charges that
then in existence' A. l did
Q Did you copy! A. did not before went.
Q Did you at ALI A. did not.
Judge Nelson-That 49, you did them' A did
Mr. Fulcr;on-Did you them be servedf A was
directed not 10 serve them.
@ BY whom A. BY the Committee.
q What member Of the Committee gave you those insruc
tions' A. The Committee itself.
O. Was It after you came back from New Havens A. 1t
O. At meeting Of the Committee those instructions
genf A unless you let Inc refer to the min
ues.
@ You may refer to any minutes A. referring thomin
uesl Excuse for being able to them immed
acy for have not had time ot wa at meeting held, Sir
July 18th, 1873
@ Yes Sir Can you state who present at that meet
Ing! A. Becher Ropes, Brush, Duncan White Moody, Day
Morton Tney Manchester Hawkins, Garbu Halliday; Dea
conesses Pratt and Halliday.
Did you state to any person at that meeting or to the
body assembled that it the wish OF Mr. Beeches that the
charges should not be prosecuted A. did not.
O. Did you anything in substance like that' A. did
nDt.
O Did you know that Mr. and Mrs Bradshaw relied
upon as wtnesse. prove Of the charges against Mr.
Tlton' A. cannot speak from my recollection; my impress
| son Is that did decidedly.
@ Well did you have talk with Mrs Bradshaw upon
the subject Of her testimony going before the Committee
a wi,nessf A. l did not; she did with me.
O. You did not talk with her, thenf A. did not
@ You .ad nothing to her upon the subject understand
your A No. Sir simply listened to her. and mads no reply
| to what she said
Where did that conversation take placer A. In my par
| lor.
Did she say anything about appearing before the Commit
tee A. She did
O What did she tell you upon tina: subject? A. don't
think can give you her language exactly
! THE CONVERSATION WITH MRS. BRADSHAW OBJ
JECTED TO.
Mr. Shearman-One moment
Mr. Eyarts-The conversation between this gentleman and
Mrs Bradshaw at which Mr. Boecher present Is not
! evidence
Nj Fueron-I propose to follow it up by showing II can,
wha, he communicated the Committee after it assembled,
Immediately succeeding that conversation.
Judge NeonI you have the fact that 1t understood
Mr. and Mrs Bradshaw were TO be witnesses does not that
| cover the groundf
Mr. Fuleuon-No, Sir; 1t does not.
Jude Ncson-I don't how you helped by anything
that Mrs Bradshaw might have said that occasion be- ond
| that
Mr. Fullerton Well Sir whatever Mn Bradshaw said to
the witness II ne communicated TO the Committee would be-
| come evidence In this case
Judge Nelson-Do you expect TO connect the committee
! withNl
MI Fuler,on-Yes, Sir.
| judge NeilsOn-Go on
Mr. Eyarts-we buI Your Honor haven't we had uniform
ruling that the principal rule Of evidence has excluded
conversations between third parties that connection should
be- rsf shown; and It Is show whenever they have
witness that IN show whatever said TO the Committee
provided In part Of the transaction OF the Com
properly in evidence will then appear and
he whole significance y in what said by hs. Bradshaw
to this gentleman and what said by him any
else to the Committee, that h the subject Of
evidence and the conversation between Mrs Bradshaw and
him have repeatedly had occasion TO consider that
point and your Honor has ruled certainly IN 10
offers OF any similar evidence tina, should not be given Take
Nj Schultzs Your Honor remembers all thathat he
allowed 10 give what passed between him and Mr. Car
pentc although he going connect with what he said
10 Mr. Tl0n The war, Very well; say what you
said 20 Mr. Tion that is all there is Of Carpenters that
| rightly comes IN"
Judge fredericksburg what have ruled think IT would
be naturally your mind that applied - rule your
instance very frequently in the early stages o. the
Mr. E,ar.-I did Intend be understood otherwise IL
your Honor please.
Judg Neison-You stated It II II late instance
| think won't take Mrs Bradshaws conversation.
Mr. FHlertoa-Wlll your Honor hear moment and
! see what connection II has with this casei
Judge Neilson-Well