The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-07-10
THE COMMITTEE ON CRIME.
Are the Police Commissioners SeCFeliHg Evil
delce in KiIiIea'S Case!
UGLY REVELATIONS.
Captain Mcdonnell and Others Tell What They
Know of New YOrk's Crimes and Vices.

York resumed their investigation yesterday. A
resolution passed ordering an attachments tc
compel the attendance OF William Tucker
The first witness called was Mr. Kasselang ore.
called, who was asked whether he testified al
Police Headquarters in the case OF Captain XII
lea and he responded that he did testify before
the Police Commissioners.
Mr.. Townsend asked that it be noted that on
the testimony supplied by Police Headquarters
MR. KAssEFANG's EVIDENCE WAS MISSING.
witness resumed ana said he never gave any
policeman $50, as stated by Sergeant Miller;
never told anybody that paid $1,000 In one year.
witness refused to tell with what bank he does
business, one or them, however, was the West Side
Bank; did not see any one from the bank present
when Kililea was tried by the Commissioners; he
attended the hearing at Police Headquarters
eight times: / never paid a cent to any police
man, nor did any one ever pay money for me I;
never told Urban that business was dull and that
/ had to pay Killtea money; Urban Oh the 21st OF
May got $40 out of me; he had before this arrested
some of my barkeepers; he is an Inspector OF
excise, living on Tenth avenue, between Twenty
eighth and Twenty-ninth streets.
A FLAT DENIAL.
Mrs. Kassefang, wife oflasI witness testified that
she was a witness on the trial OF Kllilea by the
Commissioners, but was not present when Ser.
geant Miller was examined; she denied that Nil
Ter received from her o check OF $50 for Captain
Kllilea she never gave Miller check or money
while Kilnlea was in the precinct or TO any one
on tho police force, neither mad she 30 stated to
any one.
"LIGHTNING CHARLEY' on THE STAND.
Captain Mcdonnell OF the Eighth precinct tes-
titled that there are great many houses OF pros
titution on Wooster and Greene streets, but he
had them under restriction; he had raided upon
them for want Of evidence; the magistrates say
that soliciting from the windows Is not violation
OF the law;I could starve them out; Judges Nor
gan, Kasmire and others have made them sign an
agreement TO vacate and they did So;
witness read from his records the re-
port OF twenty-five arrests on November
u; the justices generally hold them when
we have evidence; they should sustain US when
we get In through the windows and arrest them
for being dsordery persons in soliciting from the
windows; we used to arrest for this offence; Com
missioners have sustained on1cer5 for going INTO
the houses and taking them OUT have officers
placed In 'front.' OF the houses to warn people OF
the character OF the house think It would cause
a commotion TO paste nouces on the houses as to
the nature OF the business; there were now
NO GAMBLING HOUSES IN TIE PRECINCT,
no faro banks; there may be policy shops; Imade
a report last week to Headquarters OF gambling,
policy shops and houses Of prostitution there are
about six policy shops In the precinct; don't
know VINO is as the head Of the policy men;
be closed; have sent men In TO buy tickets Co get
evidence; have cleared out no panel houses be-
cause none were there; ra1ded on No. 615 Broad
way twice; also at Nos. So and 9S Blocker street
arrested the dealers; have seen and arrested
male and female panel thieves found IN the street
TO run them out there very few houses OF
prostitution now in wooster street, as they have
moved away; found no panel houses when sue
ceeded Captain Williams; the blinds Of the houses
in Greene street are closed hut
THE GIRLS BIT IN THE WINDOWS,
painted and In wrappers; there are thieves re-
sorts, but don't know OF any now except little
ones where few conGregate; think these dis
reputable places can be closed in time by using
the victims as witnesses; would not say gam.
bling games and panel houses could be closed in
my precinct IN thirty days, but n / was ordered
would try to close them in that time there are no
panel houses and no banco games In the precinct
except the policy shops.
dressed by Mr.. Townsend -'Yesterday afternoon
you were in conversation with captain OF police
for two hours" This he denied; do not know o
captain; spoke 10 strange man few minutes;
lie MIGHT BE A PRESIDENT,
q gambler or banker; ! met diamond. VINO
(suppGena) TO come here to-day; his paper was
ike mine; live In Roslyn place; have lived there
ten months; IT IS corner or Greene and Fourth
Streets have no wife; don't know who Is the
woman live with; l don't know Captain Van
Dusen; never pay money to a captain or 10 other
persons for captain never meet an oficer on
the corner OF Greene and Mercer streets.
The witness was questioned BY Mr.. Townsend
gave q general denial when counsel told hun he
had not uttered word OF truth. When asked
the'names OF hundred, and when asked for tao
names he gave "Mr. Smith," which caused a
lauan. he was unable to give Others or name the
residence or the Smith.
Mr.. Hustled objected to the mode OF examina-
ton, and declared that the committee should not
impeacn their own witness. The Chair ruled that
the examination was properly conducted, and the
witness was asked 30 stand aside moment.
Charles Diamond, sworn, SAID that last even
ing be IN Amity street, near Greene; con-
versed with Garbaldi; compared our subpenas
and talked about coming here; ne ADVISED me to
dsnOO everything. he said no had been
vised to answer "non to ali questions; said ne
had seen the Captain a man named Bell told me
CAPTAIN VAN DUsEN AND GARIBALDI
were conVersing, and GariDaldl SAID to me That
he was advised oy the Captain 10 say nothing;
the houses on the corner OF Fourth and Greene
streets, where Garbaldi lives, are the lowest kind
OF houses OF prostitution; Garibaldi, have heard,
Garioaldi was recalled, ana denied that ne had
seen Diamond bat twice; was never arrested;
am square man.
experience In getting information; in 1871 1t
came TO my knowledge tnat men were being
robbed In panel houses 30 determined to select a
point nearest to Police headquarters found panel
houses In Mercer street. and In that neighbor-
who came out, and they all had been robbed they
went first to the onicer, who was in league with
the panel thief; oncer AT in March, 1871, went
into panel house and renamed twelve minutes
by the watch this W as in Mercer street; the on
Ger joked with the girls and lovers, when q man
reported that he had been robbed; witness de-
scrlbed scene in Mercer street, where panel
mousse keeper paid money to O man whom he wit
ness IOuoWed 10 the station mousse he proved TO
be
THE CAPTAIN OF THE EIGHTH PRECINCT;
witness did not know the Captains name, but it
could be easily as:ertalned; he would not say that
the Captain tooK IL as BRIDE; mad a shorthand
reporter with me; we went over under a lamp
post one night TO get an Onicer's number when no
arrested US for being Suspicious persons; we were
discharged ana the ofncer reprimanded by the
sergeant; one time | iound a man keeper OF
house In CROSBY street who wanted 10 get away
because the Captain OF tue precinct wanted
TOO MUCH OF THE ''sQUEALs;"
Negotiated Tor the lease OF the place and re-
manned there Two nights; saw persons robbed but
did not see any money paid 20 the Captain; there
was no excuse Tor the existence or panel house
twenty-lour hours. Witness then described the
interior OF panel house ana the manner OF oper-
ating. The description was very peculiar, but
NOS ht for publication. One man IN the Eighth
precinct owned i've panel houses. lie WAS
prominent politician, and the Captain OF the pre-
cinct In March, 1871, was leading member OF a
clun named after this politician. witness then
described mis- experiences In gambling houses and
especially at Mike Murray's Keno place; the law
provides for the arrest or persons taken with
burglars tools in their possession and he saw no
reason why it should not De made TO apply 70 per-
sons found in possession Of panel houses and
gambling establisnments. The committee ad-