The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-04-17

party can be lnNaldatei. IL IL can DC clearly
shown tnat these transfers were made Tor the
purpose OF preventing any action against them
Tor the recovery Of the properly the lawyers agree
that the transfers become nun and VOID; but IT.
as some seem TO believe, the transfers made after
the first one were genuine, then the plaintiffs IN
this expensive action Will not nave the slightest
claim. Mr.. Peckham is very decided upon this
point All agree tRat the nrst transfer rom W.
NJ Tweed 70 mis- son Richard for natural love
and affection and for tle thirteenth part OF dol
lar' was null and void, ana Il the property had
remained there without going further the ques-
ton as TO recovery would be very simple The
interviews Will be found below.
/ CHARLES o'coNoR.
Mr.. Charles O'Conor was found at his residence
Fort Washington. lie said far the counsel
for the people were concerned IL was their deter
minatIon 70 urge the suits trial with all pos
stole vigor and speed, but he supposed that the
counsel for the defendant would do all in his
1 power TO cause delay. he thought mat action
would be taken very soon, and that the ,acts we're
| so clear ana the documentary evidence SO perfect
and conclusive that hardly any additional tesu-
mony would be needed to obtain Judgment He
dId not know any reason why the suits should fail.
! although the Court or Appeals had decided once
! In favor OF Tweed, and Tor aughr ne knew the
same tribunal might 40 SO again.
| TwEED's PROPERTY.
The property belonging TO tweed that has been
recently attached was all that counsel 50 lar could
/ obtain Information concerning, ana IL was quite
pronable that further real estate would be dlscov-
ered which would also be dealNwlth IN the same
manner. The reason why this course was not
pursued before was thar, according tc the opinion
OF several Judges, tine law as II then stood enough
/ Mr., OConor thought differently would not permit
| the property 10 be attached unLI alter the cases
were prosecuted 10 judgment. 70 meet this ann
| Guilty the Legislature curing It's present session
! passed three bills that are now laws RELAXING TO
the recovery OF moneys lraudulently appropriated
by pubic officers. one OF the acts reIerred 10 re-
| lated 10 the attaching oil the property or DEFAULT
ers. IL was under the latter measure mat weeds
| property mas now been attached; out Mr.. O'Conor
| remarked that lie considered The law as II
existed before was good enough :or all
| Tweed had a considerable ano mt invested
in railroad stock, government securities, &c, and
suitable Steps would be taken TO reach every de-
scription vi properly that ne possessed. No
estimate could De easny formed oil The real estate
that is now 10 await the result oil the forthcoming
| trial. put no mater now Lhucn ~ may realize. II
sod, the same would ue insufficient 70 pay wat
the Ring stole from the elty, winch Mr. UConor
| considered no. much less tnan $20,O00.o00
| However, any attempt That might now be made.
the houses anu LANDS stand on record to dispose
oil the same, ", uld &c VOID In law; Ia the event
| oil judgment DeIug obtained, vi which there could
be~no dOnot, IT VIII De necessary 70 institute
actions in the nature o eiecment or Tor discovery
Tweed pat OUT OF his nands. IL vas the best desire
OF coGnsei 10 use ali diligence TO get justice or the
public a. lar as possioe. 10 make ous the case
THE TESTIMONY OF INGERSoLL.
Would as sucn stanu as wen as any one. Ills
| statements would be received generally us worthy
u
desire 10 subserve tue public Interests through
| him ana his action, and there was no douot mat
| he would prove useful IN that respect. But even
| II his testimony were not forthcoming the case
FOR the people could be easily made out
THE ASCENDING RING MEN.
Mr. o'Uonor was not incnned TO speak on the
suoJsct OF the members OF the Ring VINO nave
aDsconded and VINO are now soiournlng IN foreign
/ countries. Counsel were in measure bound not
10 uIsciose InientlOns or secrets oil their Gil
10 tie mater ileeiy IL was true that they were
| Kept informed OF the WHEREABOUTS vi those indl-
II was dmcult 10 determine However.
It was the Intention OF counsel 10
order TO recover the stolen money. Their absence
| would no way interfere with lnstitutlnR legal
/ procee dIngs ayainst them provided property oe-
longing TO them could pc found in the State.
| SLould sucn be discovered iand Mr.. OConor was
not) me same measures essentially, ne said. would
be ADOPTED in reference 10 them "a those taken
against Tweed.
NO NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
There were no new developments In the case, ne
| saio. Counsel were ooIng ali IN their power 10
1 and also IL recover what was stolen. But tue
/ great Dect was 10 put stop 70 robbery by per-
an example olSIne hing offenders. MT. OConor
appeared TO be quite confident OF tue result, and
seemed actuated by a determination 10 render It
an exceedingly dangerous as well as Improbable
business loI aoy person or persons slmlaTy s,,o-
Ger tue community Ia the future.
WHEELER II. PECKHAM
Mr.. wheeler ii. Pecknam, wnen the reporter
| visited hun, was IN oil MS most charming
humors. lie was anaole a usual, ana displayed
a Willingness 10 give ali the information possible.
| Inc following CONVERSATION TOOK place:-
chow soon viii the actual argument In these
Tweed eva suits come on ~ asked the reporter.
.lt Is Impossible to slate,m said Mr.. fccgnam,
but soon as they can he conveniently carried
into court we are ready TO proceed Immediately,
but Inc time does not depend on our Willingness,
and we must submit 70 the ordinary Delays Vi Tue
law. Tue prenmlnares are ali arranged ana our
case al least Is worker up"
..Do you imagine mat you have a clear suit
against property which mas IN sumo cases been
Il
Iii win all depend on how these transfers TOOK
place. Some ave possibly been legal IN every
/ way, and others nave not. THIS we shan IND IN
the opposition winch the defence WILL oIlng 70
usn
"But what do you think when there has been
second and tnlrd translerf Are Tue last parties
VINO received the ., operty, tnougn II may nave
peen stolen ia tue hrst place, 20 De the losersr'
I'VE have no recourse ana no p possible Dec cain I'm
legal Transaction aud the parties q. . totally
! INNOCENT or ANY CONSPIRACY
| TO deiraud The state, anu eau prove IT.
Are tue nrst transfers, &c., rom William NJ.
Tweed 70 Richard N. Tweed, ms son, wnere ne gives
! OF natural love aud affection and the thirteenth
part 4 a dollar Of any legal vauer'
I "lhey are 1Otaliy valueless-wortnlsss, and such
/ property can 0e recovered. We nave reason 70
\ believe tnst many o. the other transfers were
made mercy straw Transfers, and were not IN any
Sine recovery OF the 100000 depends upon
Eyes, to a certain extent But we have at
tacnef all tnis, am saail see what the result VIII
/ lie laleE on. lCdHuOk pTtulCb WHAT tue suits viii
bring 10 toe city. We are WORKING Tor tner sue
cess. ana saal DO wuat there IS Ia our power 10
make them sO.n
"Have you any suits OF the same description
against Peter b. Sweeny ~
/ I'VE nave not any suIt against bim.u
"IUu then hold n1m guiltiess Of malversation OF
city iunds to ms own benefit, suen as you oring
| against Tweed ~
| ~ 90 not say thatu answered Mr.. Peckham,
| SHARPLY. only answer your question as TO any
suits oetng brought against him, ana say there
are noneu
AR. Peckham seemed unwilling to dwell longer
on This point, aud shortly after tue writer made
! mis- exit
HENRY g. sTEBBTNs.
Colonel Henry q. SteoDlns rs next called upon
al the Department PARKS IA Union square. Ihe
/ conversation opened On the question 0i the Ring
suits, anu Colonel SteDoins made the remark that
he aUstalned totally aC present from am political
activity and gave nls time to Ills position the
PARK Depar tInent. winch required H. lie had, la