The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-03-16

the giving OF the Conversation, Ais Honor ruling
that the mater was secondary ana coratera
about tine 1st OF January, 1873, In my front ofnce;
Titon SAID. ~ hear you publicly charge me with
being blacSmaller;" after some iurther CONVEX
sation ielt lsned--
MIR. Beach-Stop a minute.
he Juuge-Conhne yourself to the converse
Witness continued--I told Mr.. Tilton that Mr.,
Carpenter pad sad that the reuds som Of
action IN regard % the scandal ,a and
Mr.. MouIion proposed at the club where Mir.
Tnlon was present, ''You. understand. gentle.
men, That there IS scandal here In BROOKLYN that
may drive Mr.. Beecner out Of mis- pulpit; the
proposition Is that paper be started IN New
ORR hat VIII assist In SURPRISING the scandal"
he said Mr.. Triton VIII go 10 Europe as foreign
corr espondent; charged Tlton with being q
ae cou esy dep4y and aid net he
called IN Mr.. Bailey to decide whether was rigat
IN calling HIM blacSmaier; we went over the
whole matter before him, and Mr.. Bailey decided
that was right; held 1t was a Matchmaking JOB,
as Tilton neld some documents and was making
it was understood That Beecher WAS to BIO
editor In cnies Triton foreign correspondent
have charge OF the business department.;
think said to Titon thai 1t would be
SORRY CHANGE
II Beecher was to come down out OF his pulpit and
take charge or newspaper, where he would De
still just as liable to attack; 1t was always con.
ceded In all our meetings That the papers held Dy
Illton in relation to the scandal should be de-
stroyed condition OF entering nto the contract;
l had another intervle@ with Mr.. Tiiton at the
Union League Club; Mr.. Moulton was present; Mr..
MouIton said, 1T Is hard your having made this
snoloGze and oSu lake IL we then Vent into
the whole case and talked over It,
FRANK MoULToN INTENT.
At one O'Clock the intensity OF Mr.. Schultz's tes-
timony was increased by Frank M0ulton bending
forward Just at Schultz's teet and looking up IN
his eyes. The two men could have shaken hands.
CARPENTERS PROPOSITION.
said to Moulton that MI. Carpenter had asked
me 10 discuss the subjecL OF the newspaper enter
prise Mouiton said TO me J ought TO apologize 10
rilton Tor the charge made against him oil being
a bacSmaIler; tod Titon and MOulIon IN sub.
stance tnat Carpenter had drawn up scheme IN
Express and put TO 1t henry Ward Beecher's
name; that Titon was to 90 TO Europe
ana ne ana U.ver johnson were to 70 TAKE
MOuton that looked upon the whole scheme as
Matchmaking job; Moulton said that only knew
hal. and that Carpenter had no riGht nor autnor-
Ivy 10 make any such proposals about "A newspa-
per; answered that II Carpenter was wrong IN
that he might be wrong In all lis statements, and
that what said went Tor nothing.
AT RECESS.
Mr.. Tracy, the examining lawyer. took lunch
with MI Schultz, mis- witness. Frank Moulton
took the COUNSEL for the plaintiff and also the
piaintn down to his house In Remsen street. Mr..
Beach, therefore, came back little sharpened up
in tone. Mr.. Moulton also returned 10 court and
listened very lntently all the while. generally
wearing an animated smile. MIR. Moulton had
been talKing to Mr.. Schultz in the recess. Indeed,
Mr.. Schultz walked down from the witness chair
at one O'CLOCK ana shook hands with Mr.. Moulton
Immediately, both laughing.
The mornings testimony being cumulative with
the strong testimony OF Belcher. Johnson and
wilkeson. made Mr.. Beecher's case undoubtedly
stronger. He looked all the forenoon in the san
gulne complexion OF one in hope and still wealth.
ering the stormy cape. HIS head was balanced
easily on his shoulders, looking here tor congratu-
lation and there for point; whispering to his
vile. who Is looking dreadlully sick OF the laws
delay; and he had some words with Mr.. Schultz
before he got on the stand, and with MI. Aarman
after he quilted It.
mrs. 1tton Bessie Turner. Mrs. Field and the
rest were absent. There were present Don Patt
and Lamb, the comedian.
Opinion at the recess veered around for the de.
PENDANT.
~ am 30 mixed up in the tange and contrari.
ness OF the matter" said an old law reporter,
"that don't know any more about 1t than II had
been living up IN the woods"
"Mr. Beecher is perfectly confident Of non-suit-
ing Tilton," SAID another. "He Is making the
olackma1ling theory PLAIN. and showing revenge,
Jealousy. money and cussedness to be ct the bot
tom OF the scandal"
40, weIln exclaimed the skeptic OF the chop
house. "ooth sides will prove their case. Tho
adultery and the blackmail are compatible with
each other. The backmatl charge rests upon
Schultz's Interpretation OF Frank Carpenters un-
solicited interference. Frank thought he had q
business genius and ought to publish q news
paper. SO he makes the occasion Of q domestic
fuss between TLton ana Beecher to SIP In his
oar"
1t was on the whole, the brightest day OF the
tIial for the Bescherites.
AFTER RECESS
At quarter past TWO O'Clock the direct ex.
animation OF Mr.. schultz was resumed by Mr..
Tracy. The witness said:-
When l asked Carpenter how Mr.. Beecher's
changing nom the pulpit TO the press would help
him Carpenter made reply; Told Tilton the
reply he made; 1t was to the effect That all that
was ntained III this case was reduced TO few
documents; that they were held III escrow by
Moulton, and could be destroyed al any time, and
that the public scandal would cease IN a little
while, and mat no legal proceedings could pos
slbly arse by reason OF those papers; Carpenter
SAID that Moulton had been consulted about the
enterprise; THINK spoke Of that 10 TtltOn tod
Tilton that Mouton acted as medium, passing
bel ween the two parties, trying TO Keep peace be-
tween them ana save the pubic from the scandal;
| told TlltOn that Mounon was one OF the Brook
Ign parties that represented the Brooklyn interest
that MoutOn mad been consulted IN the newspaper
enterprise state now distinctly that Mr.. Car
penter represented himself as having authority to
represent himself, Triton and Beecher to the New
YORK friends said to riton that Carpenter
CLAIMED to represent the Brooklyn friends men
tioning him ana Mr.. Moulton, and think he men,
toned another gentleman: lilton did not, SO lar
as recollect, make any reply TO that except at
one OF the interviews at the cluo Moulton SAID he
had no right 10 place Illtou In Europe as foreign
correspondent
Q. Did you at any time ever receive q letter from
MIR. Beec0er on the subject OF this newspaper
enterprises A. No.
O. Or in reference to Trton being q blackmailer,
A. No.
Q. call your attention 10 a time when Mr.. Tilton
showed you check2 A. Yes he came into my
Office and showed me check, purporting to be
cheek rom Henry Z. Bowen for $1,000; he said
that he had settled his Brooklyn difficulty. that ne
had made them go down on their marrow bones (;
he also showed me an article that he intended to
publish as an explanation; he said that ne had
materials enough to blow the ROOF of Plymouth
church; he said, In substance, that II the Plym-
outh church people would not come to MS terms
ne would blow the root OF Plymouth church. My
reference to the alleged crlminal intercourse OF
Mir. Beecner with Titon's vile followed that con.
versation. Tllton said his wife was q pure woman.
BEACH CRoss-ExAMISEs SCHULTZ.