New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-01-29
ON WHAT THE SCANDAL RESTS.

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Tracy criticised II.
Mr. Tracy-He said did
Mr. Beach-No Sir he said You made remarks about H.
Mr. TracyThat was his answer to my question OF criticism
Mr. Tacy-Ater that don't you remember that asked Mr.
Mouon 0n what does this scandal rest aside from these pa
pei" And didn't he say me, at rests some state
that Mrs Tlton has made 10 her husband"' A. Yes
Sir; think he said that.
O. And did ask him what II was; don't you remember
my asking him that A. I think you did
@ And didn't he say that he would prefer Mr. on would
consent have Mr. Ton that to me in his words
A. No, Sir; don't recollect that.
q And then didn't he go down stairs and bring Mr. Tton
upi A. No. Sir don't reeolect In that way; according TO
my recollection he down stairs after M Ton soon
after we went up
@ Whether Mr. Triton there not didn't he say that he
preferred TO have Mr. Ton state that In his own way A.
don't recolect his saying that
Q Mr. Ton did it to me, didn't hsi A don't reco
lect Of his stating 1t to you.
@. Don't your A. No, Sir.
@ Do you remember his having what ia called The True
Story" there that aftemOOn' A. No, Sir.
q. You do notf A. No, Sir.
O. The big papcrH A. No. Sir; don't think ever saw or
heard OF anything Of that until Christmas after; that accord
ing 30 my recollection.
O. Did he read there that True Storyi' A. don't reco
lect IT, should say not.
@ Did Mr. Tton make any statement to Of what his &C
cusaon against Mr. Beeeher wasi A. lie said an accu
satiOn OF adultery
O. Mr. Titon said so to meY A. I so understood it,
O What did he say2 A. lie said Mr. Bceche had been guilty
Of adultery.
@ With his wife' A. don't know that he sad with his
wife; am not he said with his wife,
O. We're you present any other interview with be-
tween four in that studyH A. No. Sir think not don't
recoect any
q And do you say that you present when Mr.
Tton read there what called the storyrf A.
that have not the slightest recollection that the reading Of
that true story occurred there, that IL occurred be-
fore you when was present
q. You have recolecOnf A. None at ALL The " true
story the first time it think twas Christmas Day
Christmas Eve, that Mr. TltOn came TO my house
O. What time did You leave Mr. Moultons house that day
A. guess it was ten O'Clock.
q. At night2 A. At night.
Q Who left first do you remembers A. You and left to-
gether, and walked far Clinton street together
@ That the only interview at which yon ever
present. A. That is The only interview when al
present that recolect Of
@ Did you hear what called the true story read
A. did yes, Sir
Judge Ncson-But that afterwards understand your
A. Yes, Sir, that afterwards.
Mr. Trlcy-The Woodhul scandal present there that
afternoon, it not, Sunday A. think it
O. And that the first interview that We had ever had
where the papers all present that could consider the
question OF what
Mr. Beacli-Wait moment.
The Wtncss-That was the interview
Mr. Beach-Wait one moment.
Mr. Tracy-Was thr the first interview that had
when the Woodruff scandal present. A think so
would positively it might have beer present that
morning.
O. And it was the fret interview where what s called the
apoloy letter Of conron PRESENT. A. The letter Of
contruion-I don't know called three four
O. It where the rersction present and the e1pana
ton Of the rctrac.on? A. Yes Sir
q Do you remember my being shown any other paper that
day by Mt Mouton? A. do not
O. You say that interview began abou; three four o'clock
in the afternoon and broke up clock night? y say
according my recollection 1t commenced somewhere from
five o'clock and that stayed there until ten o'clock
might have been hafpast ten eleven ocock-haf past
ten.
@ VIII yon tell ne what doing all that time' A. |
believe went down supper speut part Of the time in
eating and drinking.
O. How long did that take A. guess an hour or an hour
and hall.
q What were doing the balance Of the time A Discuss
ing THE scandal
Q In it, various phases A. Yes Sir.
O The woodruff .canda A. Yes, Sir.
O. Do yOu remember that the pistol discussed
thcrc' A. think it was yes Sir; rccolct it spoken
about.
O. And you remember that the also discussed
where the scandal represented Mrs woodhu with Mr. Moul-
ton aud Ton together The presence Of Nj Beecher,
urng him to proceed the stenway Hall meetng-whether
that interview di~cussed A. think there something
said about il; think
@ Mr. Moulton there denied tha the pistol
rcy reported in the papers didn't lie A. think he said it
not correctly reported
Q Did he al-o say that he never with
Woohu presence MI BeochCr and Mr. TltOn when
Mr. Ttoa urged hin 10 preside at the Seinway Hall meeting
A. don't rcco,l,ct NAT.
Q Don you remember that said Mr. Mouon In SO
IA THE story relates to you don't but you deny it
part Of u that relates you ?" A. Well think you did
say something Of the kind.
@ And he admitted it, didn't he' A. Well don't recollect
clearly about that whether he admitted it denied it, not
q Then did take mp this Woodruff story paragraph by
paragraph FAR a. ii related Mr.. Ton? a. think that
talked about and discussed.
O. Paragraph by paragraph A. don't recolec it dis
cuss,d paragraph by paragraph out know it generally
talked about.
@ And the object OF my doing that to ascertain how far
the parties 10 it could deny III A. Yes Sir; suppose
@ Now, did not Mr. Moulon deny there that afternoon
pressy that had communicated this information Mrs
woodruff? a. don't recolect that he did.
O. You don't ecoect that he aid deny iti A don't recol-
lect that he did
O. Do you say that he admitted it, A. No. Sir;
don't mean say he admitted it,
@ you sag that the subject Of whether not he
had communicated this subject TO Mrs Woodruff dis
cussedf A. II might have been discussed.
@ Don't YOU remember that il was? A. No, Sir
O. referring to a copy of The W0ofM CLafta Weeklyl
will take for instance here about the Child and
the Crave" do you remember that scener A. remember
being talked about somewhere; cannot tell.
O. you remember that this paragraph read and talked
about:
Mrs Woodhul-IIis revelations made subsequently,
at sundry times. and during months OF friendly intercourse
occasion brought the subject up will however, condense his
statements aud the facts he related them
secuyey possible kept OF the conversations
they occurred from time to time, the i'm.
pressed my mind that have hesitation In relating them
from memory"
"Reporer-DO you fear that by taking responsibility
Of this expose you may involve yourself in troubel Even il
all you relate should be true may those involved deny
il ~ % the fact Of their having made the statementsy
Mr.. W00dhul do not fear nything Of the sort know
this thing cut and the statement OF the plain I'M