The morning star and Catholic messenger. [volume] (New Orleans [La.]) 1868-1881, 1875-01-10
Correspondence between the N. Y. World c.
pondent, Mr. Gladstone and Dr.. Newman'
IN. Y. World, Jan, al

IN. Y. World. ian, 81
Mr.. Gladstone has been good enouob =.
address to your correspondents a iett.~
written from. Hawarden Castle two ~ =,
ago, and from this letter take the toll. 2,
ing sentences: -
am much obliged by your kindness in s.,a
ing me the American papers and article.
1t certainly was no part of my design to mr.
pose any change in the Legislation Of tbsN
United States with reference to religious esm.
munities of any description. only meauito 4
indicate that in all countries there were NAV
points of contact between the respects
provinces of church and state, any one Of p
which might become point of collision and
I took the case of America in order to obtain
an argument tortiori for the general propo-
sition. It il, admit, extremely difficult To
forsee when aud how the Vatican DEGREES win
clash with the authority of the state. But
the Pope has even now quarrels with Russia,
Italy, Germany, Spain, Brazil, and s much
dissatisfied with France
In the note which I had sent 20 Mr.
Gladstone, and to which the letter from
which the above words are taken was tina
reply, called his attention to the fact that
the courts in the United States had hitherto
upheld the rights of the Roman Church
just as they had upheld the rights of all
other churches-that they had ruled that
Catholic priest must be supposed to have
consented, as q condition of his priesthood,
to be bound by the canon law of his
Church that Catholic layman, dying OK.
communicated, could not possess right to
be enforced by his executors, to be buried
with Catholic rites, and so on. asked
MIR. Gladstone whether, in his opinion, this
policy should be reversed, and the state
assume dictation over the Church in such
matters Pressing the question still fur
Their, asked him whether one who accep-
ted, as Americans must accept, certain
supremacy of the state, was to regard this
supremacy as absolute or limited, and, if it
were limited, by whom were it's limits to
be de6ned7 And pointed out to him
how difficult it was to see how, so long as
the present Constitution of the United
States remained in force, the Roman
Church, or any other church, was to be
prevented from defining and enforcing, 80
far as it's own members were concerned,
the limits of it's own authority and juris-
dictiOn.
1 have also received note from DR.
Newman in regard to Mr.. Gladstone's
pamphlet, in which the greatest of English
Catholics says that Mr.. Gladstone's publ.
cation covers so large ground that u
would require a volume to answer him, and
that to attempt to do SO in q letter or a
newspaper article would be unwise, since
every one would be sure to complain that
in such reply the particular point con-
corning which he was most interested had
not been touched. This reminds me Of Q
remark made to me by Archbishop Man
ning9 day Or two after Mr. Gladstone
pamphlet appeared. "I have marked in it,,
said he, ''forty six different statement
which are capable of refutation," Probabl,
| the volume which DR.. Newman thinks ne
cessary to thoroughly refute Mr.. Gladstone
may in due time appear and although tho
literature which his pamphlet has alresd
called forth ia vast, we have perhaps only
seen the beginning of the fray.
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