, 1875-07-19
He Proposes to Fight on, Marshal OF
No Marshal.
Sketch Of Ills Troubles with 1caky Grand
Jurfcs.
Disgraceful State Of Police Discipline
Under Rehm.
Bunko Dens Permt.ted Within a Hundred feot
Of Headquarters.

For tho pnfroae OF unQI0K out WhRt tefnlnaslon
tho Police Board imbrogo WAS probable to havs.
! a reporter Of TEE 1n1BusE yesterday Waited tho
''late Commissioner" At his rcaidence OH
Twenty-s;xlh stEeet, and subjected him to
rather interesting interview. The Commissioner
was rorg likely to be feeling rAsheE dlsconsola.s
over Judge atcA1lister's decision, and it wAs az
peotod that Lo would
opEN ur urs MIND
md make known alt that he knew. The occa-
sion was taRon Advantage Of, aud tbs reporter
pushed Mark pretty severely 80 10 who had boon
! giving away his testimony before the Grand
| Juries.
Aftor treating to tho cigars. !,e called for
| 0LABs or WATER
| and atfafghteued hmHelf out III bis armchair
| In preparation for long Interview. II Colyin
| had been present be would hayo been apt 10
mako some tnto remark about having to pour
water In dry we'll to Start 1t, or some other
| aqueous remark; but, ~ Lo was not present.
nothing Was said about tic circnmstance. The
| intcryiow began. snd continued ss follows:
Reporter-uow do you fool, hit. Sheridan,
| hftor your second kuook DOWN.
| BAertdAu-Capitally, never bettor In my lfo.
| An 1nshmsn's life ia blank without s.rife.
nep.--What will tho Board OF pu1Ioo do
| now.-wil! they quietly vacAse thoir oflico2
| Swell guess not. Do you suppose ~
| will allow
| ruosE conMonAH1s
| to uBurp control OF both OF lhoso departments
without entering our protests about is7 No, air.
Rap-What arc you going TO do. thon 7
| 81 cnnnot toll yot. The Board must 1rst
consult !s attorneys, bos ~hnt the result q that
| consultation WILL be Gao easily fure.hadow, I
| think. Tie case now atandB precnelv where It
Atood Immediately nftcr tbs Cits-3ts,shsl Of
dinanca was passed. in tho Common Council end
before tho Gst injunction wae granted by Judge
/
through superiutontent Helm. nade formal
| demand upon tho uoard for tue surrender Of
properly belonging to tho Police Department.
| We refused that denanu. aud will refuso any
| other dcuand-
Kcp.-uut suppose tho na1t demand should b
msdo by properly authorized CITY Nnrshal
| s.-Ae may expect negative ansW0r when-
aver that tlmo cotneB.
Nep.-Then suppose he should take forrble
| possession Of the documents Of thn Department.
S.-Those Ii time enough to ausvef that when
tho tine couas. alarx Sheridan neTer goes half
way to meet
ANT KIND or DEVIL.
Rep.-Of course you will not aght for your
ST. don't know what Weapons We h.7e to
Eop.-How does II coma that you havs not
| made your disclosures mare eifectual2
H.-1 have hold soma things back Suppose
should tel! how one Aldoln WAS offcEed II, 800
by another Alderman to hush hs aqueAls ABOUT
| wAnAsu AVENUE nALnoAD
ordinance. Suppose should Charge anothsr
Alderman With stutiug bailot-boxez. and sub
stan.iass tho stasemeat with competent w.t.
uessos. Oh. thero's heap untold.
Rep.-Wo|l, what do Jon say about thess nat-
ters; give tho partlcuiars7
| B.-Not now. Wait until the Grand Jury u
doue; do not want to be
ATTACHED ZOE coNTEhPr.
They may publish rnJ testimony before II is An
hour old. but d4ss not say word about IT,: I
suppose you saw mr. testimony publiahed In Hi
dase it,ler- Ocean aud Tinlesf
| s.~Ms give I. awsyi Why, ny deaF fellow,
what do You take Mark sherldan forf Am Il
Ksp-Have You auy tdo. who gavs IL away,
Was it Shorn Ague92
81 don't know auything about It. Ihsar
thors iaA
Of 1tr. nehn on tho Grand Juy. and know full
we'll that alt the prominent city officials knew Ill
my Testimony Immediately after 1t wos given.
Connect tho two incidents on your own fe8pon-
aibllity 1t you like, but not ou mino.
nep.-1n your Testimony you spe0k about your
testimony ha7lpg once before beou given away
to Jake lsel,m.
s.-Yes. and VENTILATED tie subject thoroughly
whom was before tho last GRIND jury. I told
Charlsy Kosd and the Jury thnt what testi.
nlony l had given to tho Grand Jury last
NoTombeE was given to hshna the dsy altar
gave It. l blamed Birch for that. told MT. Heed,
III glving tl,st testimony voluntarily. With
out mentioning any natnos, much Of my iufor-
nation was obtaiuod from personal and ultimate
ftla,lds. aud knew It would Eeduce their conil-
denoe in mo II should give publicity to tholr
uames. appealed to tho Jury to 6e excused.
nnd ono OF the iurors. \ clergyman. think,
spoke long snd earnestly 10 favor OF s1oasing
mo from mentioning any moro nAmos than weEe
absolutely necessary. but
| DIRcH INSISTED
thAt should give tham, saying that Il MAS tho
law. sud by vote Of twepty.two in tho atlirma-
next day evosybody That cared to know. what I
had toat!aed knew as much about IL aa myself.
Then Birch told soa1a friends ot hiA own and
niue too. that hsd given thair names yo!uhsa-
dict tha chAFge'lu tho uams OF ur. DEcl1, but I
| oAyx n1x BACK THE LIE.
Also msda quite little speech to the Grand
Ja1y. endiug up with auosher contradiction to
nop.-Wbat ras &hat2
s.-Theso Ii Que fnot abont that case that has
not Jet boon usds public. Whsu tbs subpoena
Junction anit before Judge McAilisser, md paid
1o attention 10 It until tho next day. Whpn
arrived 1t ths Criminal Court learnad shat Iced
lad
Arrt1Tp Ioa an ATrAuauEvr
Tor contempt agalnst me, but Judge FarVell,
When was about 10 cd the Jury "good after
noou. turned aul aAked Iii. Hood about Ills
.ss i a'so 70 VI; y; I'D H"ss: 10:
ansvtr tho suhpnna immediately after It was
served upon MOI" ''Yes" said 6e, II was toll
that you refused to como becauss there wsro too
mRny negroes on tho Jury" s1kel II it wAs
the Deputy who had said this, aud ho denied 1t.
Then I aak I'd him Ii Ii was
JOHN PAINE,
Catk to Superintendent Kehpa, and he answered
That !. waA. then told tho Grand jury that
bad nsser kaid any such tlliog, aud that I was u
great An hboli&lonlat ~ any QUO Of them.
hep.-Wh2t reason do you aasgn tor shesa
singular prooeedoRs7
a.-hehm is At the bottom OF II. He il = per.
sonA frlcnd OF neet's, and u ono OF his most
frequent vtaitoss.
hsp.-.1n your testimony you speak OF swosn
Council s!n8I whnt u thsts to thatf
b.-Wah hardly eau tall. heard from
aoua one thas ono Of tbs
FtnxT WHO MAB swoRN
in waa ceytaln North Side Al4asmAp. HS wAs
| brought tn Tnm fd.nnnrto nffl.n hA1IAva ard