The Morning herald., 1875-09-15

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! Express Co in the early part of Feb'y 1875.
! On the 18th day of April, 1875. was still
working for the Express Company he sent
: me at noOntime to the stables; went then
to headquarters, and he was not there
left word that / would come back at 8
O'Clock, on my frs; load down, did-so he
told me that the party on here wanted to
have it off with me, and they would like me
to come on here; asked him if he thought
1t necessary for me to come on; he said it
must he o. they would not send for you; /
told him did not know how to leave my
work; was afraid would lose It; he said
for me to tell Mr.. Hocy that he sent me, a4d
it would be all right; told him woala
come; he asked me when could go, il I
could go that night; l told him did net
think could; after got through my route
| had to take load to Jersey; that it would
be after O'Clock before got home; he ask
cd me i'll would go in the morning; told
him would the first thing; told him had
no money to pay my expenses; he said that
need not stop you, and handed me 80;
told him 1t would not take all that; Ihad no
change; he said, well, you will want some
thing to eat before you get back: l left and
Went back on my wagon; was then living
at ~ Montgomery street; being unable to
see Mr.. Hocy that night, l went again to
Superintendent Waling's house; told him l
was unable to see Mr.. Hoey, and asked him
to speak to him SO | would not lose my
place; he said he would write to him the
first thing In the morning; had at that time
no information from any quarter that / was
charged with completely in this affair; l be-
lieve took the o'clock train from New
York; told him l would take the O'Clock
train; came on here; took the early train
so that would get through here early and
take the O'Clock train back the same after
noon, and get to work the next day; asked
who l would report to here, and he told me
to see Captain Helms; went to the corner
OF Fifth and Chestnut about noontime: the
train was delayed that came on; / saw
Officer Wood first, and afterwards Captain
Helms.
Q.-You have heard the statement read
purporting to be words used by you at the
Central Station on the 18th and 18th of
April; now will you state your recollections
IN regard to those interviews how the state
ment was taken, whetheryou called attention
toinaccuracies in it,and whether corrections
were made atyour instance. A. Shortly after
seeing Capt. Helms l saw Mr.. Lewis and
Mr.. Ross and Mr.. Lesley; Mr.. Lewis, Capt.
Helms and officer Wood asked me questions
times Mr.. Lewis would ask some questions,
then afterward Capt. Helms and officer
Wood; Mr.. Lesley, believe, took down the
statement; on second occasion after con-
versation with Mr.. Lewis, Captain Helms
would ask what have you got now; Mr.. Les
ley would then read off some parts of his
statement and would correct him when he
had made errors; he did not read the whole
of it over to me; he did not read the whole
OF it here either; remained in conversation
with them until supper time; they clme
back and went mp to what l believed was
the Mayors office, and continued the con-
versation there until should Judge it was
after eleven o'clock, while there Mr.. Scott
came in and also Mr.. Seeley at the same
time; were doing something; suppose they
were taking it down; did not hear it read;
there was nothing read off while we were up
stairs: the next morning we continued the
conversation; staid that night in the lieu
tenants room; in the morning we continued
the conversation until near noon time: Mr..
Lesley was there in the morning, and pre-
sumo he was taking the statement down: no
part OF that was read to me to my recollec-
tlon; not to me, there might have been parts
OF it read to Capt. Helms; mean by saying
that Mr.. Lesley did not read the whole of It
that he did not read all that was said: Mr.. g.
Scott did not read all that was said: he was
not there during all the conversation: I
don't know what time in the day it was:I
left the lieutenant's room the next day: thew
told me had been indicted by the Grand
Jury, but not that my wife had; was taken
rom 9th and Chestnut street to Button
wood, near 10th, at a station there: was
put i'll cell thera: remained there until
he following Sunday: l came here
IN Tuesday, saw Captain Helms, and
think Mr.. Lewis and another
gentleman, spoke to them; told them
If the treatment then: that had no bed or
blanket; that had nothing but a tin cup
o put my head on, that the windows were
vi broke, and that it was very cold; on
Sunday the Chief of Police l believe it was,
anne there and | was taken to Eleventh
md Race Street Station; was put in a cell
here; l remained there until Tuesday:
hence was taken to the County Prison
where have been ever since nobody that
recollect OF, visited me at the Eleventh
street Station House; Mr.. Ross and another
Gentleman have visited me at the County
'rson; this was about week or inside Of
week after l was taken there; l saw no
me from the time was taken to the Coun-
y Prison until Mr.. Ross came there.
Q-Did you have any conversation at the
county Prison with Mr.. Ross, and if so
That was it.
Mr.. Ford said that the defence proposed y.
0 show that Mr.. Ross told the prisoner at
ne lnterview that there was nothing against
i'm and that hewould let him 60 had not
ONE people desired to hold him until he
ould show he had nothing to do with the
hid.
Mr.. Hagert objected to the question and
ne Court sustained the objection.
Mr.: Ford said that he proposed to show
nat Mr.. koss had told the prisoner that the
uestioner at the Central Station had CON
ulted and had concluded TO let the defend
mt go back to. New York that night.
Judge Elcock-That oyerrule.