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The Scandal Trial.

o. will call your attention now to some
statements that Mr. Moulton has made.
II said to Mr.. Beecher, II you have no obj ct.
ion. will consult with Gen. Tracy; but TO consult
with Gen. Tracy and get his advice upon the sun
ject. il will be necessary to tell Gen. Tracy the
TRUTH"
Now sir, did any conversation Of that kind
occur? A.-Oh, no, sir ; it is all imag-
inary-memory dead and fancy very active.
Q.-Aftsr supposed interview between
Mr.. Moulton and Mr.. Tracy, Mr.. Moulton
says:
Il said to Mr.. Beecher, Il told Mr.. Tracy the
! as 1t was; that you had been guilty of sexual in
tercourse with Mrs. Elizabeth Tilton.' And he
said in the presence of my partner that II that As
| true. 1t must be concealed at all hazards"
Did Mr.. Moulton make any such state
ment as that to you A.-No such state
ment: absolutely false through and through,
from end to end.
Q.-And did he continue or further say
And / said. THAT lie. Moulton-' that Mr..
| Tracy said that although he did not recommend
lying, this was one of the cases in which lying WAS
| justifaole."
The Witness-He never told me any such
thing.
Q.-Now, at any subsequent interview
did Mr.. Moulton state to you;
{" That We have had consultation at ny house
| in my study, between Gen. Tracy, MIR. Woodruff,
| and myself, and between ten. Tracy, Mr.. Wood
run Mr.. Tilton, and myself and that at that inter
view told Mr.. Tracy again the TRUTH and had laid
| before MIR. Tracy the letter OF contrition q" ,
The Witness-IIe never told me anything
that is that, nor anything from which that
could be, even by distortion, fabricated. |
never said anything to him on the subject,
nor he to me, except what have quoted.
Odd he also say, or did he say at all /,
that he, Moulton, had communicated the
fact to Mr.. Tilton that he had told Gen.
Tracy the fact in the case, and that The0-
dore Tilton had denounced him, Moulton,
for so doing, and had said to me that had
no business to reveal the guilt Of Elizabeth
to Mr. Tracy without has consent, and that
had pacitieI Mr., Tilton by telling him
that | had considered it my duty? A
Wholly artificial and false.
Q.-Now, sir, did you say, by way Of re
ply, or at all, to Mr. Monlton, that YOU
were glad that Theodore had assented to
that conference, and that you hoped some
good would come out of it, but that you did
not see yourself what reply could BE- made,
and that You considered perhaps that the
| policy of silence was the best for all con
| cerncd? A-NO, sir , there was no such
statement it is part and parcel of the
whole lie.
PAYING 5000 TO MoULroy.
Q.-Nlr. Beecher, do vou remember the
fact of your giving to Mr. Moalton the sum
of 50 900? Al do.
The Witness April. 1873, or May.
Q.-Now, preceding that fact, Mr.. Beecher,
OF the payment Of the money, had anything
been said to You by Mr.. Moulton in regard
to the pecuniary circumstances of Mr.. Til
ton A.-les, sir; there was-l was going
to say there never was anything said-there
WAS a continuous stream
Mr. Fullerton-Well, one moment
don t want that continuous stream poured out
upon US in this way. We want what was
said
Q.-Was anything said about your lee
turing and the prosperity Of that? A
Well don't recall any very definite con
versation about it except that | was lectur-
Ing considerably at that time and with high
prices, and he spoke Of it As doubtless
source OF good deal Of revenue to me, in
that friendly way. | had returned in that
spring from rather an extraordinary tour OF
lecturing
Q.-Now, in the course of these CONVEX
sations concerning Mr.. Tilton's pecuuiary
condition, was anything said by Mr. Moulton
concerning your bearing any part in help
Ing him A-Well, he rather spoke in this
way-that unless there was some help ex-
tended, this matter would break down on
Tilton's hands, and that it his friends could
get him over the bar Of difficulty and get
him into a certain condition, he thought
he could carry on the paper otherwise it
would have 10 be abandoned, and somebody
would have to buy it, and said that when
ever could be Of any avail practically TO
help him by hand or voice, should be very
glad TO do it.
Q.-Was anything said about any par
tcipation by You IN any pecuniary aid ?
A.-leS. sir Ii was always understood
Q.-Wh bat did you say? Al said often
and often, ''lt in your judgment anything
will be Of essential help Of pecuniary kind
will always be one Of Mr.. rilton's friends |
to help any time"
NouIroN's CONCEPTION or FRIENDSHIP
Q-Now, previous to this payment by |
YOU Of the sam Of IS 900 10 Mr. Moulton !
was there any interview in which he bad |
spoken about or shown you any c0ntrbu- |
tion of any other person? A.-On one eve
uing when was IN his house, in his back |
parior. the subject came up, and in the /
course Of some conversation he drew out of |
his pocket letter and some checks twoof |
them were time drafts, and | understood |
from him that there had been II check which |
was payable on demand and had been used
for $1,000, and these were time drafts,
which | understood were OF the sum Of |
3 900 or g 900 each and he also opened
and read me passages from a letter, in which
the donor SAID that the check was all the
money at present at their disposal. but pre-
sumed that these time drafts would be lust
as useful, and it Would be in their power to
meet them as they came around and then
he, reading that, brought his hand down on
the table with great emphasis and enihu-
sia m, and looking me in the face said,
That's what call friendship"
Q.-Now, this person, was it gentle
man or a lady? A lady
Q-W hat did Mr. Moulton say in regard
to this money or its use by Mr. 1ilton , A.
l understood it to be money to be applied
% the furtheranee Of the interests OF the
GoldsH Agf
GRACE, MERCY AND PEACE"
Q.-Now, after this conversation, what
lid You do IN respect TO this matter Of
,ecuniary help Al went home and
bought about II blamed myself for being
o stupid. IL occurred to me that-that
hat is what ought TO have done | made
: a matter OF gentle reproach that If he
wanted money that he ought to tell me so :
said | thought be had been acquainted
ong enough with me, that if he thought
ught TO give at any time, TO Join in with .
i'm IN what he was trying To do, to tell me a.,
D that that kind OF delicacy ought not to ,
Under him, and then | said to him Il :
ill give him $1,000, If that will put him
yer this pinch, and he didn't urge it; he !,
'as very delicate about it, and at once set :,
h foot the operations to get the money!
admit got it
Q.-lOu went to work and got tie money =
y mortgage on your house, Al did.
Q.-And did you take the money to Mr.
Ioulton. Al did, in bills.
Q.-And what occurred when you gave
TO him, between You and him ? Ale !,
zpressed himself as extremely gratified :,
18th it. lie thought it was a most friendly y
Il :.
Q.-Well, sir, how soon after that pay =
rent OF this $4,000 to Mr. Moulron, did .
on have an interview with Mr.. Tilton, and :.
ow did that occur? Al think it was
lie following Sunday morning. When a
ent out from my house to 90 to church, u
II. TiltOn was waiting, apparently for Inc, ,
1 the opposite corner, and | joined him as =
went over, and he walked down to the :,
lureh with me, talking in the most afiec- a.
onately cordial manner till we got to the :,
'rner this side of the church, Just on the y
lge OF the crowd, when he went on his way =
I'd went on. u
Q.-Now, sir, on that same Sunday, did "
u receive slip of paper that has been "
ade an exhibit here, with the words y,
Grace, mercy, and peace on it? Al :;
mt know. received slip of paper on = :,
lnday, but can't identify it. found it ;,
nm NV lttla taI,la an tho MA l,,, ~