The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1875-12-11

on the Methodist tpi-copnI Church What
is thought Of the krrniic Bishop Haven.
The action Of Bishop Haven OF the
Nett odi,t Episcopal Church, In urging the
nomination ~ Gen. Grant for third term as u
mo sure Ut public safety, at n public NEE ing Of
about two hundred Methodist ministers In Dos.
ton on the 9th inst, has been the subject OF
much diS,,is.ion, the point at issue being
whether or not Bishop Haven expressed tho
Views Of the Methodist Church. In order 60
guin hg upon tho subject, most OF the minis
iers ~ the Methodist Episcopal Cnurch IN this
city were VISITED ye-tcrdY aud their views upon
the sutJ Jcct we're solicited.
There "a plt badly no more Influential and re-
srectcd % cinbcf u tho Methodist Cburcl than
tho venerable B.hop .anc~, the senior Bi.bop
Of the nt.d -Ini'-. The SUN reporter found
him In his rei.ant home. In Twcnty.f.urth
street last evening. stin vigorous. although
bo ring the hlricn Of three .c, years ana ten.
"lhe action ~ Hshon Haven" the Bishop
sad, "bcar- with T. ~ ,i'lrid weight. from the
fact that tho sentiments he advanced we're not
uttered in an onci.l meeting The meeting WAS
tho REGULAR Nnnlay morning meeting OF the
Boston mi'ii-i'ra Tut /, not recognized In our
d.ci.lnn IA an of1cal m'ct.ns / hayn't an idea
tnlt ~ Do - .lnvtn cvpe,t'i ui, remark. to I've
uladc pulir. 1hrN were .irply tho uttcrances
ot tis Niev- IN wh. lc considered as0cal
cat crinr. Nelhcr du ipDlapc Ga / in pa.-Ing
vote Il thanks t. the B'shop for his re-
maihs the MINISTERS meant t. put II ON record
chat tneJ fniy endorsed his resolution. The
Bsho9, g. hr sIrc. }. - preventative man
among u . but b. clnuot rrplesent L., IN any
such acticn unic-- authorized, uud certainly hc
was mo- a 'hNf'2cd. H. b. "a ene man, an rn-
.st. conscientiDus man. ", 10 pur,ucs what he
r,I.,,,l... can ,.r,,, ,..,.,..i.,,.,,., nI'.,
'",' WI" t''', '' ANA '"'.r>' II iSh"'
possible that the Methodist denomination
a lion In
w.,,ori, ,n, co,-,,,.r ,'..
other deiouinatian to oocrn' ppi ic de-
no"'"''' 'h' ana We womb NOT do what W. con-
oenh"u 'n others Heriic'' we hh'e : much
difference Of political t,ii.f among - "a my
other drunniniti n. Man, II our h,-i ana most
Influential men ara .f-..n.tv ,tr,..d o., a.,
Grant"
GENERAL MS ,prNOn NriON.
Tia pcv mo- N Lt,. go, 80. ~, =,
Tnke'. C,nr.r "a ,y.st VIZ ~ ,r, 's,,r 80, ~ - ~.
a., 'ns ,,, :, n,,,,i t ,tu -li'.t, one
vto."c ~ n1n,, ~ 'ne NV x
W.hnn I,y.r ~" ,'", 20, T. ,ne A,u'n 81
.,,,nor,a ,. IL, !, h i, .. ~ W ~ emu ei IN
,i,isist,V,' ~ "V sa,u, ~ 1,long @ u'ust %, th.
On i"s srt ibnr T., n 'r "1' ,i li'S ta'%Hsu 20 %
VIZ, Je'i' ~ ,"Vnv @ Is - st,eIn Irti'hs ut Us
r,ane Sv ,nrsnt,y s,'s sn, u' esanIvs s"Ild pe
ii ven. Thev ali think the action iiI-adv,sr3
ndH t,nN s3a' IA rS " tes BS1TH of bsn9ps thoald be
lHshop Haven speaks Oh poliuc-, lac speak,
hm, p% ,no 1nouo ~ ouo Methodist Chnrch
Dut niWstI lhero "a Ht Present
ceploranl' and unhealthy excitement In REGARD
70 the qu 7ii"n of the prt-eN uon 4 the Bible
~ our pui nc school-, ana when Grant made his |
western speech there were many 10 jump AT It |
ana ,ay ihst M thtt wa- tne great que ION, They
60 un nan cneked' ana say IN 'lthoics are |
ulini TO debrve va Of our liberties. | say, |
est"hlIsh ,punllc schools, require cerisin |
nm,.Iu,n VI tuuSatuh. Nnn III he ihe schools |
lurrly secuItr. MY views nave given ofen~e to |
many o, my brethren; end given me certain |
.hp"u'l rliS ~ winch I"m proud. rave not |
6hcu Nhn one "l NV cougregation-hud In II |
.Ee many innn,sn.lal men-wno nave NOT i'd, |
thing a. 80 make lh Sc rcmnrks at a puplic
neeunt ~ ne mas d r'Is pers MAJ mend
q Tor HrAni' t'e worst Whs ne c,uid manifest
tMonil ie o. spsah as he did OF hin as third
'eIu vlhu' @ "a. 'ale, e., ,.., a.. . ...
.,An''u'I ~, lt,ns cn.tch - the INirtleth street
", th.Nt hnlscor1l 'nutch' over winch the
wv -. ~, ,I"Ht one ", 'Ne N" t"l' ht'u iutn !
w the d. Is pastor. MI Corey was UNIV lihng
~ s.i Mu'n un'n e sti ',' ~ ~ ~ -Hd |
frlrh. l should "nn' a. column. AID should |
N'nl !" rrihie u mNseii. hish"p haven Is |
f1' i,o 10, ia p,'' : az Ne u, Se T."
we o., Ds 'rnirtt ~ u .. Iic N"'Eh' thah the
~ s',I'n "l - a" MI mi a'i, 2'.o' ~ inlu.Nlr'
16e Iu-bnn xS h'cI ~, 'ii h'', ~ '',t ,n
a"e h,.n"p W > o~.CN ~ 'h ul- "lu h"hv ne n"u |
und.f h, 4 c'.er"s nyJ tl,', ,r tt ,,r.
OPINIONS FRIELY kNPKESSED.
The Rev NJ. s. Terry, TIE Eighteenth street
.sproye @ tci ncion me Of ~ hnn autSn "a
b0ston min i.'er' Nor did It approve many II
tie acts ol i'shoH Haven: A., for example, has
presiding IL u W mans outrage meeting recent
". such acts were his right - citizen. hut they
Dad no authority Wlth the Methodist Church.
1nr Nethodi-ts as a denomination consider
Interference win politics entitely beyond their
province. lhey have heretofore pass-d resolu-
tons rr.Mding tho school question. the Gray
nuns' aud me IKE, IN which tDey wished to in-
huence pubic opinion tut TO identify them
selves with "a pohucal Dodv would be out Of the
question. Ihe Methodist Caurch asked no
faYOfs from the GuvcTnmt NJ and did no wish
10 see ny other denouinari II taken under The
patronage of tho Government. An,tning ike
Chu,ch and state tuey looked upon with disap-
rajion.
81 am not prepared TO believe all that the
new-pap-f~ sy about this mn'ter." said the
heN. 7. i.pig", Of the iweuty-fourtu street
church. And think they have made fools of |
themselves about THIS maticr. The bctiOn, II
laken wa- not official ~ was merely the utter
hhco Of a Hrty ui ministers 10 social gathering,
li-be 10 tc enthusiastic. Bishop Hayens Is a
man Df culture and OF earnest conyicuons. He
WI sN ,ning' that other men in MS position
would not say. don't think tue Method 81
Cnur,h 80 I, ady To idcnufY themselves wi,h
polite, lut ana not sure int the time t. not
Near wi eu The, snd oiner Protestant bodies
WIN nav" TO GO -n. Ihe Catholics do, and yet
tho newspapers NV nothing about them. rhey
hit IN 20 the uoUtlti ,uS w.O gaNe tuem the
iol nn f't "a GYeLug fYl their cathedr l. B-hpp
haVe.- ,- rm personal fueud ~ Grant, as !
am yet tW not pfe.urcd to adSOc lie any
nan fr j. thtrd term"