New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-30
THE UNION INTERVIEW WITH GEN.
TRACY RULED OUT.

Mr.. Evarts-Though an obstinate man might
have gone against it, ITO the wincss] Mr.. Tracy,
please look at this paper come down from the stand
moment.
The witness examined bound volume Of The Brooklyn
Union and then resumed his seat
O. Please look OF Brooklyn Ddy Union Of the Issue
Of Friday June 20 1874 and this is the puolca-
ton OF an interview with you " which you have referred
IN your testimonyl A. II IA.
Mr.. Evarts-I Offer fyOur Honor please topu that III
terview evidence of evidence that any
statements are representations Of facts proof of facts
but as evidence. of Importance thinR In some
subsequent cOnnectOns that this public deClara-
ton OF Nj Tracys views Of certain facts In this case,
growing ont OF interviews between himself and Mr..
Moulton and Mr.. Tlton, which were well known to
them as his public declarations and the subsequent rela
lions preserved between the parties after that puDca
ton.
Mr. Beach--we object to It, Sir as incompetent and
mmater1a.
Judge Neson-I think the mere fact mat the publica
ton was made be taken bat that as far as you
can go.
MI Evarts-That in evidence, but unless the nature
OF the pubucatonyour Honor perceives my learned
friends do state of public declaration on the part
Of Mr. Tracy, known to these gentlemen as q public
declaration, and presumptvely his views and bis opn-
IONS and then continuance of relations with him In re-
gard matters that may be brought in evidence in refer
ence to interviews concerning which they have given
towards him after that publication goes to sustain If you
please the view that take to their subsequent rea
lions. Here certainly public declaration, say in
general.
Judge Nelscn-I don't think We can receive It, Mr.
| Evarts
Mr. Evarts-Your Honor will allow US to have it marked
for Identification
Judge NeilsOn-Yes
| Mr. Eyarts-And permit us TO except to It's exclusion
dare say Is sufficiently described to be identified 1t
is subdivision Of general subject headed Tho Scan
dali" and subdivision is headed, The Nature OF the
Scandal Explained"
Judge Neison-What paper Is it, Sir
Mr. Evarts-Itis The BrOoklya Union OF Friday, June
| 90, 1874.
Mr.. shearman-The stenographer had better mark it,
hadn't hel
GEN. TRACY's INTERVIEWS WITH MRS.
! TILTON.
Mr.. Evarts-No; the particular copy OF the
paper ia OF no importance ITO the winess Gen Tracy,
1t has been subject of evidence TO interviews
conversations with Mrs Tton preceding her examina-
ton before the Committee will ask yonr attention
to point Of time and ask to state when and how
you first came into any conversation meeting with
Mrs Tton and what passed between and her prior
to her delivering her statement to the Committee on the
! night I think, Of the 9th Of JulyS
Mr. Beachso that question calls for what passed
between Mrs Tilton and Mr. Tracy object TO IT, as i'm
Judge NelsonTt will answer your purpose to describe
whether he her. and how long they conyersed and
| who present.
Mr. Evsrts-Well, dare gay can get along without
running against any legal prejudces OF my learned
| friends.
| Mr.. Beach-Prejudices!
| Mr. Eyarts-Wel, Mr. Tracy
The Witness-shal begin at the time first met Mrs.
| Tltoni
| O. Yea Just give the facts concerning your meeting
with her and then perhaps, will ask some questions
that will not be objected A. In the afternoon OF July
6-ate In the afternOon-I was at Mr.. Beechers and
there learned that Mrs OvingOn had been to Mr. Beech
.r,s with message which she desired to communicate
IN him. learned also that Mr. Beeoer preferred not TO
haze communication from Mrs. OvngtOn, or not TO see
her and requested me go around and see she would
| deliver whatever communication she had for him to me-
Mr. Beach-Ths is trespassiDg, Sir, upon the rule,
think
The Witness-Then will begin where met Mrs TIL
ton, II you prefer IT.
Mr. Eyarts-I think this lie substantially in evidence be-
fore il your Honor please.
Judee Nelson ITO the witness Then you went TO Mrs
Ov,notop'e and met her; IS that it A. No. went 10
Mr. Ovnetons and introduced myself TO Mrs Oyngton,
and told her my object In coming there
| Mr. Eyarts-Had you any acquaintance with her De
| Ere, A Inever had seen Mrs. OvngtOn before that,
| and she said $500
| Judee Neilson-No you learned that Mrs Tilton was
| there. 49,,
The Witpess-I learned that Mrs Tilton was not there
| Judge Neilson-But would bel
| The Wituess-No did not learn that at that time
MIR Eyars-We cannot anticipate your Honor please
| exactly how IL came about