New-York tribune., 1875-07-02


only two Sheets and they were in the same hand
writing ,
do not. Mr. Scott said he didwater j. Scott. saw no
other scraps paper drafts except those two and
O. Did you hear any conversation in the Office at the
time you administered the OATH except what you nave
deS WSd0 A. d|af a sd% all see Mr. Seder, think he
was in the office the next morning sald g91G morn
O. Repeat the form of oath that you administered to
these patiesf A. You soemnly swear that me con
OF the within affidavit subscribed by you are true,
so help you God"
yadee Riiey-And they answered "Yes'" A. Yes
MIR sncll-After these afldavts had been made Wnat
took place theni A. don't snow; went the DscK fIS
office believe Loader and Price sepaIatel IN a iew
O. Did yon hear any conversation prior TO their separa-
ton A. don't remember any conversation after; am
as si' bade them good day. ID shook hands with them
as they went OUT Mr. Loader leit hrs, hnE; or since
the making OF these alidavitsf A No; hlhk my ,H
through in the Office the next morning or Then m % ,d
afidavts were produced In cOuit SIMPLY eau goou
O. You sav Mr. Moulton was writing whenyou wentin
@ In which room was that A. In was in Judge Nor Nor;
ris's ROOM hut all the doors open anybody coulu
have walked III and heard what was said Al,
Q. This was being done nJudge Morrlss private oc''
Q. Where was Price at that time A. Sitting at the
window OF the same room. ,, c
@. Who else were therei A. Judge Morris, cen, cen,
Pryor and NJ. MoutOn you could hear Inc souhu o & t
talking il the back room; SAW Mr. Pi1ce again oh '
same night, on the 10Th OF june AL, ,,r,
o. Have any conversation with him about this matter
A. lie said hat is so his affidavit was true
O. Look at those afidavts and il those are the ones
made by Joseph Loader and john j. Price ana sWoih 10
before yoai A. They are those are c9[aecsi Yds Sr
q Whose handwriting the body OF these M A. MI
Scotts-both, think, ,,,,. T., ,no s.ro
handwritingl A. The one OF Leaders is In Mr. SCOTS
Handwriting the which is Mr. Price'sis III Mt VII
@. Have You seen Mr. Price at any other tnei A. He
o. What did he say IN reference TO the aniays thcni
A. We coming down in the train from Whitcs,Hhe %
with George C. L!s nau & pic nt That m3rng at
o'clock nj College Point, on my way to Wmcs"he MI
Ieys was home that night and could not see nm
O. You took Price along with you, theu, 70 Whttstonef
A. took him with me, and was with Lin al nlsht.
@. How you TO take Price to Whltest"ne "A.
Judge Morris said "YOu Lad better keep Price You
to-nhsht-keep him away from the reporters ana inter-
G. Did you pay his expenses A. did, out OF money
given TO Inc by Judge Morris. -
did YOU return to Brooyni g. We came together Prce
Icys and myself, by The North Shore road to Hunters
Q. After you got TO Brooklyn where did you go A To
the office Of Morris Pcarsall. -, ~ ,no.e
on your journey back A. ! merely said " Mr. Leys,
pnIshed @ ,f in % Tie % HcrG@ aid are are an rs and Price sad
cs. they all right but did not ten Mr. LyS Mh9
Price was on the way down To Brooklyn introduced
Mr.. Price 10 Mr.. Leys as MIR. Jones'
q. After you got back to the Office what TOOK placS
introduced Mr. Ieys TOD dge Norris Mr. Legs went MO
the small office Of Judge Morris ana sat down. don't
Judge Morris told Mr Price not to talk to body about
it; This morning is the first have seen ol Loader since
Yesterday in court. since that week
Q. How long did you haze charge of Mr. Price a:
From o'clock j. m. Of the l3th OF June TO apou,
1880 the morning; after that he went home SAID
hc wanted change OF clothing he came back 10 e ihe
Office 10Th of June when he expected TO be called
witness; lac was willing to 30 on the stahd ana
@. When YOU were with Price ddyou furnish him with
any moneyl A. gave him 81; think 1t was While We
O. Was it at his request that You gave him the
A. No. Sir thought lac might like TO nave FL ana put
O. Did Price drink pretty oftenl A. Re drank some
guess he took his liquor varied mixed he took lager
beer and some whisky; he might have drulR dCItn
By Judge Ricy-Was it mostly whisky that he drank
By Mr. sncil-Ijd he be affected at all by what
he had drnki a. lie was not pSy nor hoisteIons nor
alv way that would be VINO was affected 10y TAX
ing qliOr; we put up at hotel at College Points MIR.
Legs not at home wh,n We first went to lhs house
said would 20 Ia Mr. LNys early i'll the morning; Price
knew where was going, and fOT what purpose; he was
@ On the morning that you were called upon TO take
the affidavit lou say mat Gen IIy0r' Mr. M9uIlV mnu
Judge Morris In the back IOOnf A thlnk IL was
O. Did Won scc Mr. Tilton terei A. think recollcct
Pryor Judge Morris, and Mr.. Beach in Mr. Mo1is's
Office; that was before they went 70 conrt. ,
When went into the Office.
G. Then you didn't know Low long he had been there
A. did not.
The witness was then crOss-examned as follows:
BY Mr.. Logau-what time in the day was il that you
l.
O. How long atter you Wet INTO Tue room was the IAN
ing Of the attdavitsi A. Fifteen minutes;
z. Who introduced you To him 4 A. Judge Motifs. .
O. Was he apparently sober at that tme-Pricei A.
thought sober; he did not act intoxicated in any
way. ,.,
o. He was in your presence how long thenl A. Well,
went out again he went away and returned, THINK
O. You say that on the morning OF the l5th You sub
pcfaed Mr.. 1oadcri A. Loader
G. Where did you subpoena hun TO APPEAR A. III court;
told him TO call al the office first - nj
o. The evidence closed, was Mt It A. Yes, Sir;
I'D min fa hp n sH 1l6S In.
G. When was the subpoena drawn; did you draw ~ A.
Judge Morris or drew it; went to his store three OF
four times and did not catch him.
@ 1t the same subpoena that you had on the 18th
that you hid on the 14lhi A. The same one. -
Q. Did he down to the Office with yoni A. He
did not down alone 10 the office He said he was
going TO his store and him 30 toward The Marcy
ave cArs-the Putnan-ayc. cars.
Q. You say both Morris and Pryor were present A.
O. Under whose directions did you swear them 10 tho
a1idasits? A Undo Judge Moriiss, and Pryor's too
O. Did Mr.. Pryor have any conversation with Loader
wien he making his aflidaSiti A lie was talking
with him when came in.
O. Have YOU the scraps Of the originals Of those afda
vts2 \. l0o,d for them tls rIng, but could not
ind them; suppose they are tom up; stayed out all
night to catch Loader; had tie impression that lie was
q You Say You saw some scraps of the affidavit in
Mcuton's Landwritirg' A. Yes; two pages.
O. Did yOu notice whose affidavit ii vast a think 1t
@ You only arrive at that by process of reasonDgi
@ You are not member of the firm of Morris & Pear
@. Is MI Pcars;n, of the firm, your brotherl A. Yes
Sill =.
O. You understood that the object o. suhpenaing Mr.
Loader was really get him 10 the Office and make his
statement A Yes Sir.
q. He wouldn't come voluntarily A WELL don't
know about tnat.
o. You did not explain 10 him that your object was to
gel him to ile Office did yOul a. told him lie Lad bet
Ter call at the Office before he went tO court that they
wanted tel him something there. and he lad better
call there frst ~ .
O. In administering those oa;hs did you use the Bible
o. Dd you explain to Loader that these aGdays were
10 he used for any purpose. A. did not.
G.. Did any in your presence that daS A. didn't
hear them say what they wanted TO the afdavts Of
believe Pryor said had better get these men down III
ailidayts, and have item sworn 10.
O. Was that tie first tine Loader was subpcnaed III the
case at all A. think it the first time he was sub