New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-07-21

tween line and the Hamburg line which establishes
the rates OF passage on BOTH was present at the
Conference 1871 consult about the reduction OF head
money. have heard OF Mr. Nolan, but don't know him.
have the gentleman who has called at our ohce
TO receive money for his efforts at Albany,
but do MT know what his name is Our firm signed an
agreement to pay, think, 25 cents for every immigrant
who should arrive on our vessels for certain length OF
time TO the Legislative lobbyist. do mt recoiect the
exact date of signing it, but 1t was in the year 1871 we
paid to the termination Of the specified time the amount
agreed upon TO who came regularly once month
to our Office. | don't recollect the aggregate sum
how long the payments continued. The de-
tails be ascertained from our books. Inc
plan had its origin with the English lines, ana
we we're forced into IT, Our cashier knows the mans
name and that he the right person to pay the money
to. | know Patrick II. jones' but never had any talk
with him about the reduction of head money. | have
had repeated conversations with Bernard Cassery on the
subject, and think met him in 1874 III Albany and
believe he was there behalf Of tue Commissioners OF
Emigration. He told me he favored the views OF the
steamship companies.
committee was appointed from the steamship com
panes distribute funds to secure beneficial legislation
in the years 1874 and 1879 Mr. Dale, think, was
manager of the committee Several thousand dollars
paid TO Abram Nakeman TO defeat the increase OF
the head money. The money was collected by Mr. sand
ford who paid it as directed Wakoman and others.
All the transatlantic companies contributed never
heard until few days that MI Rudd had received
any OF the money. don't believe that $4,000 was ex-
pended by the Conference that year. The understanding
was that the whole burden of expense should be borne by
the companies in proportion to the business each had
done the year before. Our proportion would not bring
the sum total to any such amount
Our passage fare not changed from the yen $3.50
until the year 1874. Then the want Of harmonious
action and lively competition induced us 10 reduce our
rates.
The steamship companies paid out 100000. Mr..
sclwab said, in conclusion, that he would furnish the
Committee with the checks ana books az far as be was
able These to be laid before the Committee oinor
row. and will show how money paid to influence
legislation.
EVIDENCE OF JAMES W. HVsTfD.
Gen james W Hustled testified that he was ono Of the
Commissioners of Emigration in 1870 and 1871 He re-
signed his position Dee. l. 1871. contract was
entered into by Andrew Clark 70 build the sea wall on
Wards Island. "A contract here exhibited to the
Committee and declared to be the made with Clark
en-. Hustled then said that he elected Comnis-
sloner OF Emigration IN May 1870. The first meeting OF
the Board attended by him was held on Wards Island.
It was at that meeting before that the resolution was
passed by the full Board to build the wall on Warts
Island By building this wall nearly two acres were
added TO the property Of the Commission This
the first portion That was hullt: ne
the same contractor. the specifications were
given out i'll the usual way Bids were solicited and The
proposals were opened IN session OF ne iull Board
Gen Hustled could not recolcct whether the bids were
iudorscd or not. Mir Clark the loves. bidder, and
ihe contract was assigned to him Joseph j. Icari
appointed superintendent Of the work. Ir. ONc the
architect Of the Lunatic Asylum building. also
plOycd in supervision. Payments were made Tor cSii-
males Of the work by the The witness thought
that the SPECIFICATIONS were given oni before ne became
member OF the Board lie was Chairman OF the BUILDING
Committee, and made inspections every two weeks,
carried on. The measurements accepted We're made by
Mr. suIe, the surveyor, Mr. Ilcarn, aud Mr.. ONcil.
tee OF Commissioners OF Emigration who reported to
the full Board. The witness declared that he knrw
that the sea wall was good one. One OF Mr.
Clurk's bills produced to show how payments
were made. these bills were countersisned by lyo
contract was entered into in July, ana payment was
made in the following September by estimates regularly
furnished Here certificates produced, and refer
ring to them, members of the Investigating Committee
declared that the business seemed to have beer done in
payments were made of $1,000 each at the same time
Gen iinsted replied that as as as 600 feet were com
plcted The contractor was entitled 10 payment TOR the
beginning The architect certified Ia lhe number of feet
Of wall completed Mr.. iIeain did the same, and M
charge Of tie wall as architect until IT completed.
Nh IcGure remarked that II appeared from the state
ments hat Mr. sulrel tne engineer accepted the word
Mr. Hcam in regard 10 the amount OF work Completed
and mat as the others fell back upon Mr. Iearn4
also, IL amounted virtually "a the payments
being madeon Nj Iearn's certificate alone.
Gen. Hustled said: Il would trust Mr.. Hearn with
never lived" All the measurements, he continued,
Should be file in the office Of the Commissioner OF
Emigration. dollar was never paid by TINS Board for
Nosk without certificates OF measurement and other
done according the contract The matters concerning
the WORK upon the LuuatIc Asylum were considerably
mixed, but the sea wall was wei built;
Cen Hustled was thcn qu STONED in regard to the ac
ton ~ the Commissioners III 1871 upon the reduction Of
heaa money. IL stated mat The Board passed resOl-
lion 10 rce the head money from - 50 10 81 3d. lie
was in Albany at the time and TINS resolution was sent
10 him lie received letters urging HIM to oppose
"a. T tsii 1 VIII euno,II,siv i'm fr ~
thcalL Nobody ever spoke hiin upon the subject.
lre bill passed without auybody's knowing or Caring
/ II
Comnttc, of the Whole The witness did not remember
Whether the bill went to the Committee Ways and
hesns oT not, bat under the impression that 1t
referred 20 that COlrmticc. Cen Hustled thcn said,
" Heain appointed supcrniond' Mt OF the sea wall
upon my Recommendation. always get all the good
men can MO Office am not Ia politics now, and shall
sity out until iiic next election"
Ine witness added tnat he Was acquainted with Assist
ant Dsnci-Auoney Nolan He md lot believe that No
head money. lie wa not aware mat Nolan Lad received
100000 100000 from the steamship companies,
cet from WI hd occurred III Inc Committee IN Com
mere and Navigation. Gen. Hustled declared that lie
could late from seven years experience ia the Irgisla
Where lie had means Of observation open To not
than 10 men out O rs that not over 10 per cent
and lac doubted Whether IL wt3 over per CcitOf the
money used t. nfncnce legislation ever passes beyond
hands Of the lobbyists. ne did not believe That mem
II without its becoming SHOWN TO OtIcis
gen. Histod tncn asked whether. in view Of the
fact that the blll was recommended by the Commits ion
ers OF LmIgatiUl and III view OF lis passage without
opposition cIc had been any ncct slty To Use money to
a man oncr a dollar iOr such purpose, aud LdonI
believe that ever Is necessary to pay money to nild
dollar 10 pass that bli. don't lelicIiiDcr seeing Mr.
Nolan that Winter The bill passed along quict inoro
quietly tnan the COsgan bil; PASSED thai 10 It's
grave. [Iauglter.l The Board Of Emigration did
yea and nay vote upon the resolution, and
pOsiliS who were ia the minority,
tain tlat Fiederck sehack WAS one, and believe that
James l. LcI WAS another"
JAMES t. sERREILs TESTIMONY.
James serrel testified that he made the survey OF
the sea wall after il completed, and took full
measurements OF that part which exposed The
measurements of the other parts were procured from Mir
Hearn to whom Mr. SurIeil sOnt by the Commits