New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-04-08
Mr.. BEECHER. AND. THE Woodruff SCAN
DIAL.

CaAn paper Of what has been known as the scandal
the woodruff scandaprior to the appearance OF that
paper had you heard in or in any form the sg
geston that there appear such publication A.
had
Mr.. Blackwell. from whomf
Mr. Evarts-well we will take first the fact whether he
had heard In any way.
The Witncss-I had.
Mr. Evarts-In what way had that como to your
knowledgel
Mr. Blackwell. object to that question, Sir 1t nay
have come in some form which we had no connection
with. don't know.
Judge Neson-we, think 1t Is one OF those general
questions he might answered. it came 70 his knowledge
by speech print The only question will be whether IL
can be pursued afterward.
Mr. Beach-The question calls for rather more than
that, Sir.
Mr. Evarts-Tt ia a simple question, '-'.t
Mr. Beach, shall have to stop The witness then that
Is all.
The witness-My first was n mere-I cannot give it.
except that had vague impression, and from what
sources derived cannot say; my first definite knowledge
the visitation at my house OF TALL thin, lank old
gentleman q about 60 years Of age. who came to tell me
chat there Was an awful thing a-soing to be published
about it. fIamghter.l
Mr.. Backbone moment
Mr. FullertOn-One moment; 1t Is too awful to tell
here, guess.
Judge Neison-we, we can dismiss the gentleman,
think.
Mr. Evarts-wcll, don't know. don't wish to pursue
it against any indication Of your Honor, but
The Witncss-He said they were getting up
Mr.. Beach-No one moment.
Mr.. Evars-wc, IL you it in this newspaper-this
Woodruff & ClaGin paper, that this announcement was
made-I ask you whether 1t in reference to publ
cation in this Woodruff & Clafn newspaper that this
announcement by this stranger was madei
Mr.. Backbone moment, Sir. That calls for the sub
stance Of the communication We have nothing to DO
with that. Sir
FERROUS visitor.
Mr.. Evarts-As it stands, perhaps
Judge Nelson-I think shall assume that there was
no other but that paper.
Mr. Evarts-Mr Tlton introduced the subject, il your
Honor please, in his testimony lReading.l
Did you hear of that publication or any por
ton OF II being I'm slips and proposed to be published
before it was pubshedl A. No. Sir all ever heard ON
that s was h after g2t nc linn our at least he had
spoken to in advance OF its publication ann as
understood some blackmail had been levied upon him'
Now want to show that he did not pay any blackmai
In that transaction.
Judge NeilsOn-YOu can examine him on tnat state-
ment, whatever is there.
Mr. Evarts- Now, Mr. Beefher, did you tell Mr. Tilton
what had happened that subjects A. Very likely
don't remember 1t.
O. Did you tell him that any backmal had been levied
on you A. No; none had
@ What did You say on that subject to him. about
blackmail A. II said anything said
Mr.. Fullerton-Well, one moment.
Mr.. Beach-He says he don't remember IL.
Mr. Morris-M Tlton has not said that there was any
blackmail He said this: "And as 1 understood some
blacknai had levied on him." That's what he said
Mr. Evarts-Well, this generally disprOves that.
Mr.. Beacll-That the witness denies.
Mr. Evarts-Yes. he does deny it.
Mr. Morris-That don't disprove that Mr.. Tton so I'M
derstOod IT,
Judge Nelson ito the witness]-Do you recoliect that
you said anything the subject A. To Mr. TiltOni
@. Yes. A. don't recOllect anything Sir. l think 1t
more than probable that did, but do not recall def
nitely that did.
Mr. Evarts-Now, Sir, think it is competent for mo to
show what did in reference to any advertisement or
notice to Beecher OF any such intended publication
Judge NcsonThe fact he had notice from
this mysterious visitor. Is not that sufficient
Mr. Evarts-Except that it is not very definite or ex
picit.
Judge Neilson-we cannot make 1t very definite. as the
person stranger and not connected with the suit at
all in any form.
Mr. Fullerton-And from the description probably
ghost don't know.
The Witness-Yes, there Is something very curious.
Mr. Fulerton-I don't know what he had to do with
this worlds affairs.
Mr. Eyarts-Mr. TiltOn has also stated this: Reading
my impression is that he made a statement to the
enn lad called upon him and notified him that such
publication going to be made and that ne
the call in the light of threatening visit and had
O. Sent him awayi A. Yes Sir, that is the substance
of it.
The witness-If you ask me that question about Mr..
Moulton I think could tell you that did tell him.
O. Well, now, in regard to Mr.. Tilton I will ask you
this: DO you remember whether you told him that
A. No, Sir.
O. Or what he Gays made that impression upon him.
Well Sir did this call this advertisement OF the
intended publication form the subject Of any communica-
ton between Mr. MOultOn and yourself A. rehearsed
1t to Mr.. Moulton, Sir.
O. What did you tell him about 1t A. Well, merely
described the old gentleman, and told him that saw
from that that there something comng and that he
seemed to be great deal distressed and said that he
came over to IL the thing could not be stopped In
some way.
O. That is, this messenger you meant A, Yes. Sir;
told him that way to stop it; thought the way
WAS to let go out Mr. MoutOn suggested that the man
came over for backmai 1t hadn't quite occurred to me
before and then fell In with that vew supposed that
the old man had come pOking there to find out
whether was disposed to compromise the matter
O. At any rate that was the result Oh the trasacloh
A. That was the result
O. And communicated by you to Mr. MoultOn; whether
Won told the thing Mr. Ton you have no recollection
A don't remember; my interviews were ten to one
with Mr.. MoultOn
O. To what they were with Mr.. Titonf A. Mr.. Tlon
yes, Sir.
O. Now Sir, when the publication itself took place,
how was it first brought to your notice A think the
first that heard Of its actual occurrence from
Mr. McKelway, who came to me from The Eagle office,
saying that
Mr. Beach-One moment, IL you please
Judge Nelson-wc, he came to you from The Eagle
Office and gave you notice in reference to III will that dol
The Witness-N0, Sir.
Judge NcilsOn--GO on, Mr.. Evarts
Mr. Evarts-Go OH, Mr.. Beecher.
Mr. Beach-We object, SIR.