The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1875-04-08
.BEECHER TRIAL.

would be better for MIR, ,ClevelandAt turthe
examination to be deferred until he cOul,
have short stay in the country, when h
might DO able to attend court, The Judg
and plaintiffs counsel Concurred.
The witness testified; The interview
with Mrs. Woodhull about presiding a
the Steinway Hall meeting was on tn
day Of the evening Of which the meeting
took place ut MOultOn's house; | said
seldom presided at public meetings; sh'
hRndeIl me large roll Of paper which
contained her views; told AlOulton tha
could not ally myself with this woman
received a letter from Mrs, WOodhul
in reference to going TO the meeting o
women suifragisls at Washington; this il
not the letter | refer to in my note Ia
MoultOn Of January ., 1872. Witness
here corrected himself and said this was
the letter referred 10 IN tho c0mmunica-
tiOn to Moulton, and continued: | also re-
ceived letter in regard to the Steinway
Hall meeting; | answered the Washing
ton letter, but didn't write an answer in
regard to the StoinwNy meeting, but saw
her shortly after,
q, Now Mr.. BecCher do you remember
an occurrence in the fall Of 1871, the pub
lication Of u poem by Theodore Triton
under the heading Of "Sir MarmGluke's
Musings p A. lido.
Q, How did you become aware Of the
publication? A. | sawiti in u newspaper.
Q. Very near the timO OF It's iSsue2 A,
| suppose so, sir, don't know,
Q, Now sir, did you have any COnYcr-
satiOn with Moulton afterwards concern.
Ing that publication A, Yessir,
Q, And how did that arise and where
A. l don't know, II came up in the course
Of some visit or conversation,
Q, What was said between you about
In said | thought II was n tlastarlly
letter that 1t was an III bird that foulGd la
own nest. lie said he thought himself
that II was exceptional and did not at.
tempt to make an apology for il.
Q, Did you IN any interview with
MOnlton when this publication was the
subject of talk say to him that II almost
broke your heart to see II, or that you
considered II virtually the telling Of the
story Of yourself and Elizabeth A, No
sir, | did not tell him,
Q. Did you say anything bearing upon
that point. A. did.
Q. What did you say2 A. said 1t
broke my heart to sec such things as the
bringing Of Eli1abetll's name before the
public; II was q marrow shot,
q. Did you have ANY communication
with TillOn about his "Sir Marmaduke
MusingsT A. don't recollccl any.
q. During the month OF December,
1871, do you remember the subject conf
Ing up between Yourself and I'ilton, in
amy interview, as To his retiring from the
church, A.. I do,
q. Where was that interview held? A..
| don't know; only remember the con
yGrsatiOr.
q. Will you state what passed between
you ut that period and on that subject, or
In consequence Of or ut any conversation
raised, III which that subject was spoken
of a. TilIOn complained to ne that
thCrO was an unirlcnlly feeling manifest
cd by my friends toward him; | thought he
blamed me ina degree for II; that was only
part Of our many and frequent cOnyerSa-
tions; they ran along from time to time;
| had undertaken to do what l could to
restore TiltOn to the cordial good will Of
my church; had Raid to TiltOn that |
could not hold myself responsible for the
opinions or prejudiCes which had existed
before in any way dissatisfying to him;
that could not be held responsible for
that; that the mnrmurs aud complain
ings Of the church might all Of them be
overslaughed II he felt his way clear to
come back again and, M he used to do,
take part In the affairs Of the church aud
show u cordial feeling toward the mem-
bers. In one Of our interviews he showed
an inclination, ] thought, Of going with
me, and II inspired great hope that II
might come to pass, but AT a later con-
yersatiOn, when hn seemed disinclinGt, |
urged him to take his letter. he said he
would consider The matter.
q. What do you mean by taking his
letter? A. OfdismissiOn from our church
To some other church, but lie said he did
not consider himself II member Of the
church; | asked him to communicate that
fact 10 the church; llc said he couldn't do
tliat in the present state Of feeling In the
church without seeming toevade or avoid
the issue, and he wouldn't do that; | said
"You can announce II; you don't need To
ASk II; yOu simply can announce that you
are not u member, and then the further
action Of the church will ratify that" but
he declined.
q. During what period Of time, so far as
you eau reCOlect, did this conversation
on this topic eStendH A. On the partic-
ular church rrlatOnS2
@. Yes, siT on this matter Of dissolying
his relation 10 the church, A. Oh, |
should say that ran on through two or
three months; in my general recollection
that Is Il.
Q. Now, Mr.. Triton has given a narra-
tive Of an interview, which he puts In the
early part Of December, 1871, at MOul-
TONS study, when you came there, and
this subject Of retiring from the church
was spoken Of, as stated by him, in detail.
In that interview, he says YOU In that
conversation used these words or the estib.
stance Of them. "That in view Of the
facts Of tho summer and fall by the pub.
location Of the Woodhull sketch, which |
suppose means ''Fle Life, and my ptesid.
inG at the Steinway Hall meeting, The IT.
lie poem Sir ALatmNduke Musings there
had grown up In the church feeling on
The part Of the members aud leaders that
1 had been an intense Spiritualist; that |
had wholly abandoned the orthodox faith;
that had not attended church for nearly
two years, and ns my name was banded
up and down In the community, they felt
that as o church there should lie ali In.
uuiry made into the malter.' And then
he says this: Mf. Beecher said, UYou
know, Theodore, how dreadful and tis.
tressing this IL to my feelings particular.
~ as understand how you Have come
into your disrepule; but what can do2
how can | explain to my church mem.
befs2 they are crowding ME on every
hand" Now, did any such conversation
"a that take place between yOil and Mr..
Tilton2 a. Not between me and TiltOn,
sir.
O. Now, In this conversation or in any
other conversation about fixing one way
or the other his relations with the church,
did he say this IA. you OF did you say this
n him? Mr. Hcechet-lh reference 10
obv cRiiinians niaie nunn mo herauso I