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New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-03-12
MRS TILTON's NAME ASSOCIATED WITH MR.
REECHERS.

O Asa part of that conversation, did Mrs. Ill
ton, name come i'm A. Yes Sir mentioned Mrs Tilton
as one with whom Mr. Beecher had been very much enamord
for q long time
What was said on that SUBJECT and in what connections
A Well she 81 ted to me that Mrs. Tilton--
Mr. ryor-Is that OF the remarks heard by Mr. Iuton
A. think
You said Of the remarks were heard by him ana
some not' A. Yes Sir know she made one or two remarks
in a lower tone Of voice in relation to him.
The remark you going to relates that one OF
those that wore heard by Mr. Tonf A. could not swear
about his airing it, but think he might have heard H.
Mr. Eyas-I said in tone in which he could hear it'
There WAS but one or remarks she made in tone which,
apparently She .dn't intend for his ears.
@ Whist that sbout-himselff A Yes Sir
O She dropped that point and You suppose he
didn't hear that: A. don't know but he might nave hearu
that, but suppose not
O. What did Mrs Woodruff say in regard to Mrs Tion and
Mr. Beecherr A. Well remember her general statement that
Mir Beecher had enamored OF Mrs Tton and she OF him.
for time and there number Of remarks made but
could BEGIN recall them ALL One recall is that there
was doubt whether Mr. Beecher or Mr. TtOn was the
father OF Of the children don't know whether she gave
any name not, Of the child.
Q Now. there anything said about letter A. She
spokeshe said that Mrs Ton had those views also OF the
marriage relation and free love- and that Mrs Tton had
rced the deception which she had practced upon her hu
band and letter stating what her relations with
Mr. Beche had been an Mr. Beechcr had got hold OF
that letter and that friend Of Mr. Ttons had made him give
uup-hal exoried i At the point Of the pistol remember
she used expression and think she mentioned the name
OF Mr. Mouon that connection but am not positive in my
recollection about that. pooh poohed that said That
don't seem credible" and said &c" think Mr. Cummings told
he Mr. Cummings gentleman who had introduced me
her, and he had related to much the same story
Mr. Besch-Wait one moment
Mr. Kyars-About the pistol
Mr. Beach-Walt moment
Mr. Eyarts-I have waited moment
Mr. Beach Unless il was in M Tiltons presence
The witness-I Mr.. Cummings in Mr.. Tlton's
presence
Mr.. Beach-Very well; don't state the conversation
The winess-I mentioned Mrs Woodruff
Mr. BeachIf tina: in the hearing OF Mr. Ton you can
state it,
Mr. Rvarts-I Is OF no Importance.
The Witness-l remember making this remark said Mrs.
Ti!ton Is living II she confession she write
another would not be any occasion for anything Of that
kind and thereupon remember Mrs Woodruff sad-his
OF the remarks that lodged In my memorytha probably
perhaps probably Mrs Ton would not give another
that this letter written the time that Mr. Tton In
voyod IN some business dispute
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during the conversations which you between yourself
Mrs. Woodruff Mr. Tton, which you suppose were ne''a
by Mr. Ton parties occupied the respective positions
You have now given Well during the Conversations thA'
related TO Mrs Tlton Mr.. Beecher we did
O. You did, A. Yes, Sir
O Well did YOU A. The other part, tho nrst converse
tion that spoke Of in relation to Lowell ana us ns''u
TONS that was at an earlier part OF the evening" and am pe
certain that between and the other that followed af n
the evening" there two separations and mixing w
Intoxicating up into smaller coteres.
O. Well what were relative positions OF the three parties
have mentioned during conversation in regard TO "e
A. Mr. Tilton-ake them at time-Mr Triton occupcu
very much Of the evening in tho same position Mrs
moved good DEAL she at this table COCO oea
and then going away good DEAL and then coming back
O. Did you understand me to ask you that Sir A. am
coming at It,
O. wish you would get at II little more directly. am
asking what position Of yourself Mrs Woodhu auu
Mr. Ton at the time OF this conversation concerning Lowen
A. Mrs Woodruff then sat In chair little away ron INC
table, that is-a little distant from the position which rave
descrbed-tha having been occupied by her later IN inc
evening" still that in another chair on the otne'
side very much position that occupied during the con-
versstion that related to Mr.. Beocher
O. Where were your A. And at the end OF the table
think stood there when that conversation hrst began anu
then took seat
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THE I.OWELL REGuLATIONs pIsCussEn.

HE Law hEuOLAIIONS DlSCUSSED.
Mr.. Beach-Mr. Cowley, what was the regulation
OF the factories In Lowell about VIII oh this conversation
place A. The principal regulation that relating to the
hoursthe hours least in the evening" after which boarding
houses were closed and prior TO which the bOaders in the
houses must be in their homes.
O. WELL what the hour, A. Nine clock the boarders
the houses locked the doors closed and no one admitted
after ten.
@ All persons were to be In at nine o'clock The regu.
aon required them TO be there and required the boarding
house keeper to lock the doors That what under.
stood the regulation
O. Did you understand that regulation to apply males
well caes' A. They don't have males in tho boarding.
houses
@ Then there only emaes-the factory employees in
these boarding housesi A. Whati
@ IL was q restriction upon femalesf A. Yes Sir
@ And there any qualification TO this reguatlons A
don't know that there ia
q. Don't know that there Was there any penalty
attached violation Of the regulation A. No. except this
that the such repeated times
they would bedscharged from the corporation
boarding houses.
q violation of the regulation. thon. was attended with
loss Of servce A single violation attended with no
other consequence far aware than they had to
find other quarters for that night and the violations were
repeated
q 1t resulted In dschargs' A. 1t resulted 10 discharge;
yes, Sir
DO you not recoec thar In the course OF that
ton, the injustice OF such regulation applied to female and
applied to male operatives spoken Off A. don't re
member anythng-I think that subject OF the
criticism. but do not remember any particular remark bear
ing upon that.
q Oil don't suppose that language used Sir but was
not that object Of rcmark and censure A. That was the
grievance; certainly.
q What tho next topic OF conversation In which Mr.
Tton participated that you ecoect, A. The next that
rccoect the discourse which tho gentleman gave
there and which Mr. Tlton reported geographically.
would say that there Others but do not now
call anything between those two
Q Al that portion Of the conversation did you yourself Mn
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Woodruff Tion occupy tho positions ssve givea
them in the preceding Semarks' A. Well have gvon TIVE
positions.
O. Well, A. Which do you refer tor can tell the posi-
tons.
O. Either of them Well. tell what the positions were.
The Grst one the that occupied when dis
cussng Lowell and is institutions As a. remenber.
that Wa the nOsOn.
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Mr. COwLEY,s MISSION IN THE CITY.

O. What was the occasion of your coming to
NewYork at that time, A. Ny impression Is that-we was
here several times during the Summer.
O. didn't ask you about that. A. 1t is too vague
O. Now, my dear Sir please me as lawyer; what
was the occasion Of your coming to NewYork at that time
A. could not tell you with absolute certainty
Understand you to Mr. Evarts that Ii In
nectjon with some political movement A. No; but having
occasion TO come hero
O. No. mol Didn't understand you to say that' A. You
did not; you may have misunderstood me II you did.
@. I don't think did, That we will determine
Mr. Eyarts-IIe said having occasion to come here"
Mr. Beach-wat one moment Mr. Eyarts ITO the witness
You did not say then to Eyarsin TO Mr. Eyarts
tina, YOU came here in connection with any political
A. No Sir said that
O. Well wait didn't ask you what you said You did not
say so, A. / did not say that came here
O. Then you did here in connection with any poll
teal movement A. did come in connection with it, but
special in connection with II, not expressly for 1t.
O. Well you came In connection with what political move
ment, Well what was called the Labor Reform Movement
in Massachusetts,.
O. How did you here in connection with IT. for what
purpose, A. will tell you Before the Convention held
had told Mr. Cummings who Chairman OF the State Com.
mittee and some others that did not propose take
tive part further the movement had done during the
precedng years After tho Convention held Mr. Cum.
mings proposed and Mr. Phllps-Mr Wendell Phillips
who candidate for Governor the previous
tcket-prop0sed 10 bring on Mrs woodruff ana Mr. Tlton TO
make public addresses Ia in behalf Of the
ment lie thought that he could get them and that they
would produce
O. In behalf Of the labor movement A. The labor move
mcnt He thought they would produce very great effect II
they came Massachusetts, Mr. Phillips domurred 10 that
and the matter left the result Of that conversation
me was coming from New YokI had forgotten the par.
tcua occason was coming to NewYok pretty soon and
Mr. Cummings be here and says l. will call In and
sec MIRA Tnton-Mrs Woodruff, and perhaps Mr. Tton
too and see result Of personal interview with them
may be-"
O Then portion Of your design In coming to New York
was to see Wooihu and Mr. Tton In regard to their
vocacy Massachusetts Of this labor movement! A. Yes Sir
O. How came you be introduced by Mr.. Cummings to
Mrs Woodruff A. Because Mr.. Cumming lie the
Chairman OF the Committee and Was with him that made
this appointment
@ Then you met him here by appointment A. Well, VIC
were both here other matters He connected
Q Idon ask that A. Being here, met there By appoint
ment.
q And you went with him 70 Nrs Woodhal this sub.
Iecti A Yea Su.
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xvcvd Ne cxpo.d continued TO profess or hold himself
ON, "A procssns maintaining theory while pracncng
and believing another
Wen did she give You any instance expression about
~ She talked rapidly and in avery animated manner on
thst subje could undertake 10 give but only avery
ANAL part OF what she did say. remember she sad-l fol-
lowed V thought and she said ii had been said that there
were dozen Of Mr. Beoehes msrcsses In his congregation
sah TO Mrs. Woodruff, ~ you put your logic
10 work on that you WIN see that thar eouiu
not be: that no ordinary woman OF that stamp
would be likely to have ason with Of the emnence OF
Mr. Rhe, without being proud OF and letting be known
in some way and there two such one would nno ou'
the other and expose her." Lead: "The thing IL utterly mn
possibs" Theeupon she made some appeal 70 mr. an'Ol
and called Mr. Tton's attention TO Il, and either NV i
Ms woodruff then stated the number as iofy' '""e
were forty misresses Of his In his congregation am nut
., .o., ,,h,h., Il was Mr. Triton or woodruff stated
this, number The best Of my recollection is that II was MI
Tfton stated that number.
@ Who put the number at fory' ~ NJ io'V 80,
o Well how did conversation proceeo tar'ocr' ~ M"
gave some names but don't recall any name except o"'
the ladies'
Ia that name that has been mentioned here' A. IL mas
heep mentioned here; have seen II In the reports.
@ What name was that, A. The name OF Miss Proctor
h. a the only one recall but remember the fact tha
she did mention Others.
Now how were parties seated at this time yourself
Mrs woodruff and Mr. Ton regards proximity A Mrs
Triton sat me- separated from me by small table
@ Mrs woodhu. You meant A. Mrs. Woodhull; peg
your pardon for using Separated from me by little
stand such as ladies' put their on avery
thin nHrow light stand Mr. 1ion sat opposite me upon
lounge or sofa have forgotten which
Q How many feet aboutr A. Five or Blk Feet; ABOUT " "
a. no il from me, should think .
@ Was the Of conversation such as 70 DC nea'a' n
Yes Sir great deal could not help but hear because
Mrs woodnu oftentimes spoke with great anmauon' sne
could be head throughout the paror and her voice changed
, time IN tim, think there were some remarks she made
which he didn hear didn't intend him to hear-some
remark that related personally to himself.
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THE GATHERING AT THE wOoDHULLS'.

THE GATHERING AT THE wOODHULLS'
| o Whereabouts in the house were you intro
| duccd to Mr.. Tltont A. In the parlor
@. Were there other persons there' A. Yes. Sir
O When you arryed' A. Yes Sir; large number, or
| considerable number, .
considerable number; about what NUMBER A. should
| think dozen
@ Any lady guests among them' A YES sr' quite NUM-
Der.
O Who were they, A. Mrs Anna Middlebrook-sheh has a
middle nane but have forgotten tof Connecticut think
Bridgeport was only lsdy whose name cen now recall
| recall her because had conversation with her.
O. You were introduced TO other ladies! A. Introduced 10
unite number of them yes Sir but there not one whose
name can recall and qutea number OF the gentlemen also
Can YOU give me the any of the gentlemen who
were there A. Yes Sir Albert Brisbane, Stephen Pearl An
dreys and Mr. Bacon- think his name was Bacon OF Wor-
cester: am not certain about his name, but remember
he was the one Mrs Woodruff introduced Inc to as being
the gentleman had introduced the Womans Suffrage reso
luton at the birmingham Convention There were Others
there whose names passed from my mind They were
from different parts Of the country
O What time did you reach the house Of Mrs Woodruff
that occaon A. Between eight and niue oclock nearer
eight than nine should think
O And you left shortly after ten A. Sometime between
ten and eleven later than was aware OF when /
And you had been there In the morning preceding that
EVENING" No; Mrs Woodruff first at her office, then
in Broadway there that was introduced to her by MI
Cummings
You never had been her house before this evening"
No, Sir. 49,. ,.
And had never been introduced to her until that evening"
A. Never met her before at AL
O Had YOU noticed anything of her public career al thai
time A. Not much
@ ANYTHING said A. Oh, yes; yes, Sir something
O You knew her position upon the question oil woman sur
fraoef A. knew that womans sufrsgis; yes, Sir
and the head OF the ewYork-o as understood the head
OF the New. York party, as dstlnguishcd-
O. The New.York paryi A. The Ncw-York party as dis
tingushed from the Boston party
O. OF suTragistsi A. or suHragss; yes, Biz
O Had you read any her publications prior to that'
don't think had She gave volume OF her speeches. and
| I have 1t now, but
O didn't ask you for that Sir Had you heard any OF her
| addresses prior TO that! A. No, nor since
And then you nothing OF her special tene prior to
that upon these subjecsf Oh from what had
| In the papers about her hsd on idea
| @. didn't ask you that
| Mr. Eyarts-Wel, think you did.
| Mr. Beach-No did not.
The wtness- understood your question to cover that
Very well.
asked you you knew anything in regard to the parcu
lar tenets prior to that A. Nothing OF knowledge
nothing except by hearsay aud through the prints
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same day that mot Mr. Triton at Charleston the daJ after no
dvesed his grafton met him Charleston and had nve or
ten minutes conversation with him.
O. And you never have Mrs TltonN A. have never
seen her ct ALL she pointed out 70 me 10 oour' yes
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cRoss.ExAM1NArIoN OF Mr.. CowLEY.

Mr. Reacb-I understand, Sir, your first acquaint-
snce with Mr. Titon was through introduction by Mrs
woodruff, A. Except that met him In mis- casual way a.
Charleston, South Carolina . 4.
O. Did you have any conversation win hn 'nee' A. nv
Charleston; no, Sir; none that recah.
O. Was you introduced 10 him there' n 'A was anu
.ome mere remsrk--
O We'll do VOC recoect II; do you recolicc being intro
duced to him, A. Obi remember we were there together
and be made speech at the meeting and made Few re-
marks ,,
understand that ask you II you was introduced to him
at Charlestoni A. think was
O. How, A. I think was
NJ vor remember who introduced your A. think 1t was
Major Delaney; Major Delaney presided at the meeting
O. When was 1t, A. That was the day after Mr. =
Well. whcn the day-thc year, A. 1t was in April 1865,
the 18th or 18th.
O. In April 1867 A. Yes, Sir.
What was the occasion OF that assembly, A. 1t was
meeting OF coored people to hear gentlemen who had
doynthe Beecher party the North Mr. Beecher came
down with party delivered Grafton at the raising OF
the flag over Fort Sumter and Mr. 1fton was win him. orwh
the party and Mr. Garrison Judge Kelley II remember right
and rome there and made addresses ~ ha meet
ing
O you did NOT recognize Mr. Tton, them until the intro
ducon of Mr., Woodruff when you met him at her house In
1871, Well our meeting in Charleston was 80 casual ddn
O Well YOU were introduced! A. think So
O. And had Conversations A. Nothng OF any
O. You were fellow spokesman upon that occason' A. "e
nv remarks were very short because was there Tor some
time and they were only for that day and excused
self. >,
O You were introduced to him and know hm' A. woud
not swear positively introduced to him. but my i'm
nreson is that Major Delaney did introduce me to Mr. Tton
and to Judge Kelley and to Mr. Garrison know he INTRODUCED
me to quite number Of them, and /
o don't want all this A. state 1t because am not GER
tain. There was quite number Of introductions
O. What is your recollection whether you was or not' A.
am not certain whether was or not.
O What, A. am not certain whether / was or not
@ Do you still think you was' A. think was yes Sir
O. You think you vas then 1t true that although you
think you was introduced 10 him at Charleston In 1907 you
did not recognize him upon that introduction when you met MIN
at Mrs Woodhus' A. Recognize him. fes Sir; recog-
nized him. and referred having met him In Charleston IN
conversation with him. didn't understand you-your use OF
the word recognition " there-at first
Sir, didn't at first understand your use OF the word
"recogniiion;" the him recognized him as
Mr. Triton.
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THE AFTERNOON SESSION.

TIE Court met at p. m, pursuant to adjourn
ment and the sscxaminaon Of Charles Cowey
sumed
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Q. Well, during that portion Of the conversation
the three parties yourself Mr. Tlton and Mrs Woodruff
occupying positions that you have described No.
sitting very Mr. Ton then and Mrs woodhul
don't remember where she She moving about and
changing her position from time to time. WAS sitting very
near to Mr.. Tion at that time and my
@ Well that Is all that Is important Sir Now what was
the topic Of conversation you ecoec' A. do not remem,
now this moment any other exceptun came 10 the
question o-the social revolution which she said
WAS impending.
O. Now what the position Of these three parties thss
time A. AT that time Mr. Tlton the lounge sofa
@ The lounge at the point' A. Yes, Sir and Mr."
Woodruff side Of the little stand that spoke OF
and sat upon the other.
O. Pretty much In the order Of the first conversation A.
No. was on dferent-I at the end OF the table whoa
the took place and she the side where
sat when conversation about the social revolution took
place
ton dscusson-dd she sit between you and Mi. Tonf A.
No, neither between.
O. You opposite ends Of the abes A. On opposite
sides Of the table, and both fronting towards Mr. Ton
O. And both fronting towards Mr. Tton and about how fer
distant him A. could not have been than Ave %
six feet at the outside.
O. Was any that time sitting with him upon the sofa
A. think not.
O. Well your recollection that you sws9
that there mott A. No. Sir; would not think thas
See Ninth Page.
The Rutland daily globe. [volume] (Rutland, Vt.) 1873-1877, 1875-06-23

public policy, private ambition, or freak
OF fancy9 Or was it some relation of es-
pecial friendship for this editor? Neither
of these suggestions would quite account
for such a strange procedure. The more
natural inference is, that Mr.. Hulberts
letter, go ostentatiously paraded as con-
frming the HeyuHs statement of the
9th inst, was not written until it could
be trutbfully said that he had accepted
the position rendered him-perhaps upon
the 9th inst. and that the accuracy of
the Herdhs statement Is rather
rhetorical" than malicious. But even
with that charitable view of the case it is
unfortunate. How much better il might
have been ii this editor had only finished
his course at Middlebury college, and re-
ceived the full benefit of its rhetorical
training, at least so far as to be able to
make his statements of facts with tolerable
accuracy. Our information as to the Her.
dHs news gathering enterprise was appa-
rently reliable, and we must continue to
hold it in respect until we have something
more definite than a general denial fol-
lowed by a general confession of judg-
ment.
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News. as is News, /"

The Mlddlebury Register of Tuesday,
thus speaks of the Heralds "news, as is
news" in reference to Mr. Hulbert's APP
pointment and acceptance of the presiden-
cy of Middlebury college, as reported in
"7Ae ten cent a aoord' journal, of "unvar-
able circulation" Read what the Register
says
The Heralds explanation needs ex-
planning. If it be fact that the "trustee"
mailed information of Rev. G. Is. Hulbert's
acceptance of the presidency of Middlebury
college To the editor of the Herald. on the
4th inst, then this trustee lied like Satin,
and knew that he lied-a very improper
thing for member of the corporation to
do. Again, if the editor really had that
little note in his vest pocket, with ample
confirmation from this communicative cor
porat0r, and the president elect, why, in
The name of common sense, did he retract
his statement of the acceptance" in the
issue of June 7lh only to reassert 1t when
it did actually become true and n legiti-
mate item of news on the 10Th inst2
If we are to accept the obvious meaning
| of The HeruIds assertion that Mr.. Hubert
himself confirmed the truth OF the first an
nouncemcnt, there is a psychological ques-
ton of some interest which ought TO be
settled in the interest of science. What
possible motive could have been influential
To induce the desire on the part OF Mr..
Hubert that his election and acceptance
should be heralded through the public prints
two or three days before he was ready to in
innate his acceptance to the parties In imme.
date INTEREST," Could II have been motives oil