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Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1875-07-21

STORING Hay IN TIGlur BAR>s.-N"arlv
thirty wears ago. II man Of progressive
IDEAS sid to u that grasS bur partially
cured could be stored in lrwe bulk in tirl
,arn>. with p rftct SAFETY. and come on
looking better and les mu>ty than if rird
mi stored in Ventilated rms We r,-
r,rdrd it rs Visionary idea. To which he
',:,h given kindly reception on account OF
+ novelty. but which would result in los
f put in practice.
1t was the custom then to side up barns
with green boards, 50 that they would
brink in seasoning. leaving wide era, K
t" admit the air tor drying odt the hay
IN importrnt principle WAS here over
Looked Fermentnti. II. Ike combustion
! caused hv the union of oANrrn with
.'lrh"n, and can no more proceed if air l.
.Xrlu,rd. than fire can burn under like
ambitions Many farmers haze lrarneu
hat manure Will not ft,mtnt rapidly when
i is trud len down so - t. nearly eXclu,l,
he air. AMI that it seldom tire-f:InES when
brown where cattle can trample it under
foot
The class which. above All others. ha~
made gr;l>s and hay a special study, j.
lairvmen. They have :s,-crtaincd by tx
-rimrnt>. directed by science. that hay
will keep better in clarboar,td or batienpd
barns ,han in open barns or Stacks. Thu
h, heating will b. 30 moderate as TO onl,
dry cut the hay without moulding.
If it is L fact that hay can he safely PIT
no: large NOV. in IA tight harn. les
cured than i necessary if STAG ktd or stored
Upon >catinl!> Ct in open barns. it is -
very imporIant fact for farmers. a, il will
enable them To gather their hay crop with
much les exposure to the vici>situdeS o
the exterior surface is injured by cont,cr
with dew or rain -ItUru lime.
Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1875-07-21
MISCELLANEOUS.
THREE POINTS FOR CONSIDERATION

During the past ave years the TEGET1NE has been
steadily working ttsel. into public favor and those
who were at irst )st ncre1llo in regard to its
merits its most ardent friends and support
There are three essential causes for those having
opinion and lending theis influence toward the sdvan
cement Of VEGErINE. LIST it Is an honestly prepsr
ed me tlclne from brks. roots and herbs 2dIt hon
estly accomplIshes all that il claimed FOR it, without
leaving bad effects in the system 3dIt presents
known citizens, whose SIGNATURES are sufficient guar
aut.e IF their earnestness the matter Taking int
consideration the vast quantity of medicine brouxh
conspicu pusly before the public through the hamins
advertisements in the newspaper columns, with NJ
proof of merit 9enne vouchers OF what it has dom
we sin luld be ardOued for manifestnx a small degre
of pride presenting the following testimonial from
Rev. j. ) Dickerson D. D. the popular and ever geula
pastor of the South altst Church. Boston.
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agricultural.


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NtFN"' 'Ni,iN ; A>so'TATIrN }
At the II winter meeting f The 's-o
ci ton. -cv,r.,l Of lis active frirrI> ld
v,u b. d"na i'n- to It To he used a.
lr L.. t. induce rrr, and more, v1rir.'
q ~ at he d tirN pro ct- of the st t.,
at Ir III riir = 10 he hrII Jautltry - h
: tn nj list. l>76 The place Of ncNt
NEE in c,nrrrt be tiNrI INT he ;unur
hu-luc>s meet ny in De Obr So man,
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Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1875-07-21

CANADA THIsTLEsT BENEFIT AND
DAMAGE.-A farmer anXi"uslv inquiries OF
rs how he can posi- " Kill a dense patch
Of several acres of Can.la thistlrS. lie
will perhaps be startled if we should tell
Inn tina we would rather have Il tie.d
filled with Il dense growth Of these thi>tle>
nv the middle of June, on Il strong SO !
III IN to have Il bare field or IL badly seeded
pasture. Next to led clover. the roots.
stems and leaves of the Ctna Ii thistle are
one of the best green crops to pillow under
| Thr roofs are powerful loo>enrls of tn
soil. and the tops. when we'll r"ttrd, hrl
| 0 mere ,>,- it, fertility. Plow them undrI
wi, h Il chain on the pillow. when ust com
! iny in,o blossom. AMI they will soon rot i'll
the soil. If left a little later. the plown !,
| Mill be more destructive t. the plants. bu
they will not rot quite So quickly. If TIL
blowing is deeply and thoroughly done.
! hey will moi be seen above the surface 70
/ month. But the very moment the first
= G. n point is seen preping, pillow the Ian
= AN. and REPEAT ii Just "frn enough t.
k .ep them constantly >mOthrrrd BY the
-O.n Of September or l>t of October. H.
his les will be eft -rluaIly killed, and wi
never aTlin make their appearance. Will
h. rtted TENS and leaves viii have in
creased the fertility Of the Land Usually
tbout fur pluwin4s will hive done tin
work ,ff.ctu lly. at the same Time that i
viii have rendered the field mellow like ;
| harden. and DESTROYED most of the othc
weeds tn It may have been in the soil
| All perennial rooted weed. if kept IN ter
viii be destroyed and All The els of an
nulls that have been thrown up nra
Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1875-07-21
THE TIRED BODY SUES FOR SLEEP
Boston, March Is. 1875

BosroN, March Is. 1875
r. STEVENS ESQ:
Dear Slr-It as much from sense Of duty as Of
Sra:itud that write t. say that ynur NEGET1NE-
a Patent medcine-has been of great help
to when nothing else seemed to avail whi h could
safely Either excessive mental work or unusual
care brings upon n exhaustion that desper-
stely needs sleep, hut desperately deies it ight
after the poor tired body for sleep until the
lay dawn il welcomed back, and we begin our work
tired with almost fritess chaae after rest Now
have found that little VEGE III NE taken just before
retire slvs sweet and immediate sleep and with
any OF the evil effects of the usual narcotics
think two things would tend t. make brain workers
Ieer. Ist-A little less work. I'd A little more EEGE
me This prescription has helped me.
Now have particular horror Of patent medicine. '
hav. horror Of beii afraid TO tell the
straight out truth The vEGETINE has helped me
and own 1t up. Yours &
Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1875-07-21
MONTPELIER. VI
1 MEXICAN AND IORLIGN PATENTS
r. IL T. ID ID y,
SOLlCI TO Il OF PAT + y I :
For Inventions. Trade Marks or Designs

For Inventions. Trade Marks or Designs.
No e STATE ST. OPPOSITE kIIBY ST. Boston.
After extensive Ira Ice,f NJ wards thirty Years
continues to secure Patents the lllted states ais
Great Britain. France. and other fortIcI
and all
Patents executed lIae With dist atrh
Resear, hes made 70 determine the validity and utllltN
Patents Of luVCutl aud le-al AID n1lt- al +,
rendered in all matters touching the Copies
he CLAIMS OF patent turshtd 10y ttlI.. Oh,
iollar ASsIyprnrntS raN nri i IN Wisuiu zion.
y agency the United states i s-e<s : superb =
facilities tor obtaining Patents q crta the Ia
tentablllty Il Inventions
All necessity Of Journey 10 Washing to yrocur,
patent. and the usual great del. there are here
Inventors
TESTIMONIALS
REGARD Mr.. Eddy i the most ca,alia Al
successful practitioners with VIII III have had t,!cla
intercourse
CHARLES MASON. Conm'r Of Patents
Il have no hesitation in assuring inventors Hey
not employ man more come eIit Al d ,
and cspahe Of putting their APPLICATIONS 70
for them early and faN orahle coIslerati
at the Patent Otf"e
EDMUND BURKE. Late Co1nrl'r of P4ter.s''
Mr. r. II EDDY has made for ne over THIRTY
appirations for Patents. han been III al
most every Such akahle Proof II ,-rca
aent and ability on his Iart leads II recommend
ALL inventors apply to him procure their pa+er
as they may be # having the faithful atten
hestowned on their cases, ar ~ very uah
rharyes JOHN TAGGART."
Boston. Jan. l. ls5- FlY1
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RELIABLE EVIDENCE.

Is Baltic street BRookLYS n Y Nov. a. 1914. ls-i
II /. SrEvESs. ESQ
Dear sir From personal benefit received by its
we'll from It RS mai kuoS.-t-e Of those whose
seemed ST l
heartily aud sincerely recommend the v GE
TINE tor tue con. .aluts "L4cA Il cIalI-ed 10
If
JAMES p LUDLOW,
Late Pastor Cavalry Bap Church. Sacramento. Cal
FN-4u1l
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II Al r VIM E.
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Northampton Courier Or-el.-- 1,5s-Tl. Ua:r "
Is IL, greatest thill- IL the market.
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VIII have used II. al d they many.
h1.IS%n star l.53 SAYS: III Hair We 3, =
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ben OF for years. and w are thankful
VII, The EeTn@nt Union # Alril a lss SAYS: Tie Il
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n An 5 n TT.d ever. thing f,r Cs, -
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~. T Mrkenzle Hair Dresser. Island Ta1a w.
dt'E me; I'd Mat You sent ne IL two weeks
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IN 49,; =; an dg:lt eli with tie Hair ne I
had is entirely aid Itha( started his Lar II!
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hat Nil do it Peas fn t ra as I've h ,, "
sent lk YeTI 'i,;t ne aIali writes that Har
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SIaF5 eM hair Please send two hotties NOR
TRY II. AND YoU WILL USE No o1HrR
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Address C. W RICHARDSON. Barre,. y
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II Bgwars Of imitation. The genuine Is rrt II
INKS with cut of female IN the WRAPPERS Tpt
foT sale "a; IN mo Montr:iler by Ba.co ne y aud
Marshfeld g F Woo itrn''e-d 0y j PAGE ''
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It You don't want to put a canze over
the gilt flames Of your pictures this sam
mer. and don't want flies t. than,
boil three or four onions in n pint of WA.
ter; then. with a clean paint brush, wash
over Your frames. and The flies will nor
iight on them. No niniv will resulr to
he frame. ~
Green-Mountain freeman. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1844-1884, 1875-07-21
MISCELLANEOUS.

-INEGAR BITTERS.
Purelu Vegetable, free from Alcohol
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Z. II. N L @ y 4 l. u x CO..
Druggists and General Agents. 6 4 Fran
cisco. California, ard cor'er Wa>LiI econ
and Carlton Streets. NV York.
so1-n BY ALI. nNvGG1s7s AND mann.
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24

longer able to submit to the
abuse of himself and other members
of the Faculty in 50 high-handed and
un-called for an attack, arose and
peremptorily ordered Mr.. Boughner
10 oui, the rostrum, as such lam
quare would not be permitted as
the gentleman was indulgiug in.
Ut this point there was a decided
sensation, and calls were made by
same parties in the audience for
Bosgllner to go on But he didn't
W on. lie was eheckedin his TRADE
Of abuse, and compelled 10 retire.
The Post adds: 1--WE greatly re-
gret the occurrence Of the scene
the occasion is to be derlored by all ;
and we will only add that If MI
Bourhner desired to skin the Facuf'
~ in revenge for wrong he com
plains of. he could have done so with
more credit 20 himself, and with pro-
baI,ly more. effect, by COUGHING his
language IN more respectful terms.
On Tuesday evening the Isegents
Pile Contest came OIL. The decision
in the contest had not been made
when the P1St went 10 press
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24
Pors..noutA g Huntingdon r. r

Under this caption the Ashland
Jo.rpol attacks this paper in relation
% an article last wseE, in which we
mentiens1 that We had bees informs
ed that Mr.. Carpbsll's opposition to
the route on the north side of the rlv-
er arose from sslf-interest. The at
thority we had for that statement:
was so COED that we still hold to ii,
Notwithstanding the courteous and
-entlemanly article Of the JomHGi-
The editor of the Journal seems To be
very fond of tie word stupid. He
calls our srticle STUPID thing
then he saws we every stupidity and
maliciousy &c. and then "a stupid
paper.
We shall not rctort in kind 1t i
not ALWAYS best To say what We think
We do not oppose a road on the
South side of the river; we expect to
have one before two years, but 1t y
our candid opinion that the Ports
mouth anil Huntington road ought to
be and VIII be buils on the North
side of the river, and that what We
said in relation to Mr. Campbell's op-
position to that route is true.
The editor of the Journal should
have learned before his time, that
he may discuss a subject in the inter-
est of his town, without applying dis
courteous and 5oorish language to
one who happens to see things diff
erently from him.
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24

THERE have been a number of
sensational articles lately in the daily
papers, in relation to new motor,
said to have been discovered BY a
Mr.. Keely, of Philadelphia, which was
a cold vapor, produced by the union
Of cold air and water BY which a
fabulous power would be evolved,
running up to 10000 lbs to the
square inch
An article, several columns IN
length was devoted to the new motor,
in the New York Times q few weeks
ago, in which it was stated that the
utility Of the invention had been
practically tested, and that men who
were thoroughly satisfied with its
value had invested something ike a
million dollars in the enterprise.
Scientific men incOntinently pro-
nounce Mr. Keely and his invention,
= humbu:. Thev maintain that
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24

Referring to the article last week in the
Advertiser, have only this to say.
I acknowledge that in endeavoring TO 90
a large business without sufficient capital,
I have been compelled to tax the kind
ness and accommodation of my friends,
and have received many favors from them
for which they have my heartfelt thanks;
Mr.. Doolittle Processes to believe that l
have invested the money / have made
here in other places, but If he would take
the pains to give sn account Gf what 1
have paid as we'll rs what owe, 1t wouio
easily be seen what has become OF the
money. =,
In tie account Mr.. Doolittle gives OF
nv indebtedness,he verylargely overstafes
the matter. l have owed most OF the &C
counts in that schedule, but some l never
owed, some Of them have been paid on
over two years, AMI quite number OF them
have been largely reduced. For instance
he states that am indebted to Browns
estate $500. while the fact is that hold
NJ. Browns note for over hundred dol
lars.
Wilson, Andrews & Co., have no claim.
against me, and others mentioned are also
paid. Mr.. Doolittle has never yet been
required to pay dollar for me, and IL
he is compelled to in the future it will be
because OF his i'll advised effort to destroy
nv credit, whereby, he as we'll as others Of
nv creditors may have TO suffer.
1t is necessary for me to ask for time:
but intend to pay honestly every debt
owe l have in the past spent great deal
more money for the benefit OF Huntington
than Mr.. Doolittle, and expect to do 50 in
the future. ~
G. SCRANAGE.
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24
Southei N Mon in Boston.

While the editor of the Commercial
and his kindred spirits are reviving
the issues of the war, and arousing
anew the fires ofhatred. which south
ern men have bng striven To quench,
the following account by Bayard Tay-
lor, formerly one of the most promi-
nent aboli;ioniStS of the country will
show the spirit in which the true men
Of the north meet their southern fell
low citizens. 1t is left for office hol-
ders, Office seekers, third term men
and recent converts, 10 try to keep
alive the ieuds and bitterness OF the
past. II is sbeir whole stock in trade.
II was Of course General Robert
F. Lee that was in the minds OF the
Boston people when they SO hOnored
his nephew, who is worthy TO be his
nephew.
BAYARD TAYLoR's ACCOUNT OF IT.
The appearance of General Fitz-
hugh Lee was the occasion for a new
outburst of feeling, warmer, ii posi-
BILE than the preceding ones. l lcok-
ell around and saw the light of n
solemn gratitude and thanksgiving on
every face when General Lee stated
that he had come because he claimed
a right to be here, and the cheering
was unanimously renewed, as 1t was
at the close Of his brief address,
Then tic orchestra played "Auld
Lang Syne" amid profound silence,
vet a silence full of memories and full
ofhppes. General Kilpatricks greet
ing was hearty and familiar, as OF one
whom the audience knew and were
clad tosee. But the intense depth
of feeling, not unmingled attirst with
a certain amount OF anxiety, with
which the southern speakers were,
beard was 10 longer apparent. Men
listened to the latter as if asking
themselves, Will they he bro hers
again p and the demonstration they
gave expressed the realization of their
own desire. This has been the rul-
inc hope, the ruling doubt, in Boston
to-day. | can testify both to its sin
ceritv and its intensity, and | foresee
the higher and pprer feeling OF jubi-
lation which will possess all hearts
tomorrow. trust that the millions
of our people who cannot be here will
unite with US in our gratitude and
py, for the day We have prayed for
dawns at last. b. I.
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24

RAILROAD MEErrNa.-In accor.
dance with a previous notice, the
Corporators of the New River Rail
road Mining and Manufacturing Com
pany met here on the 18th and or
ganized under their West Virginia
Charter. having previously organized
under the Virginia Charter.
j. ID. Sargent was elected Prcsi.
dent. Thos. Graham, Vice-President
Richard Wood, Harvey Beckwith,
Gen q. G. Wharton, Judge P. w
Strother and Ebert Fowler, Direc.
tors
The general office of the Company
will be in Philadelphia. with . local
Office at Hinton, under charge of FL
bert Fowler, who was appointed at
torney to accept process on the part
of the Company.
The Directors were instructed to
take immediate steps for the consoli-
dation of the Virginia and West Vir-
ginia companies, so a. to place the
entire line under the control Of one
Company.
The West Virginia Company has
had subscribed $500, 900 which was
represented in the meeting. This
amount is estimated to he sufficient
to build the ruad within the limits of
this Stale.
Capt. Richard B. Roane was ap-
pointed General Agent of the Com
pany.
The estimated cost of the road,
from the Engineers report, is g.
700, 900, being an average of E4,-
54S,73 per mile.
The road will be 69f miles in
length. with only one tunnel, that
near Eggleston's Springs, which will
be $40 feet long. There will be a
bridge over New river about she Bull
Falls, $50 feet in length, and one
over Greenbrier, near the mouth,
665 feet long. The heaviest grade
on the line will be ut the Horse Shoe
bend, at which point it will be about
II feet per mile.
The Company hope to commence
work early in the Spring Of 1876
Hinton Herald.
Huntington advertiser. [volume] (Huntington, W. Va.) 1874-1921, 1875-06-24

Painful rum ors are ahoat to the
effect that a murder was committed
a few day ago on the canal, near the
Cement Mill of Messrs. Bridges &
Henderson. 1t appears that man
named Crone, running a canal boat,
had in his employ a nephew. The
young man declared his intention of
leaving his employ. He was told he
shonld not. On attempting to get
away he was caught by Crone, beaten
to death, then laid on the path, and
the story circulated that q mule had
kicked him. This is the story as it
comes to US. We hope it may not
DC true. though it is pretty generally
believed at the Locks opposite Sir
Johns Run. As far as We can learn
no arrest has been made.-Morgan
Merc,u-y.
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The State University.

We learn from the Morgantoyn
Post that the closing exercises Of the
State University commenced on Fri
day 1lth inst, by the examination OF
classes &c On Friday evening the
anniversary cf the Parthencn Liter
airy Society took place. AProPos to
the Parthenon. We heard Il good
story some time ago. There Is q
gentleman in MorgantOwn vino has
considerable literary and hiStrionic
ambition, but whose early education
was unfortunately somewhat neglect>
ed. The "parthcnon" used 10 be
called the "NLnongalian" Society.
When its name was changed, the
bows, to have some fun, invited our
old frienl up. and he was called on to
make n speech. lie rose and said,
"Mr. President, IN she words OF the
immortal bard YOU have sent for
me, have c1n,s. 1 am very happy
to meet my young friends here this
evening and TO take part in yosr
exeIcise>. congratulate the society
on its change of name. | w never
much acquainted with Mr.. Parthenon,
but | have no doubt he was very
smart old man, and worthy Of the
honor YOU have done him in naming
YOUR association after him &c &c.
He took his seat amidst thuuders
of applause.
One of the orators Of the ''Parthe-
non" was Mr. b b, Curry Of Lincoln
County. who delivered an grafton on
"tke criminalityo of duelling.'
On Sunday Afternoon. at $50
O'Clock, Dr. M'rtin President Of
the University delivered the Bac-
calaureate sermon, from this text.
"Whathath CSod wrought
On Monday evening 18th. the ami
verssry of the Columbian Society
was he'll y good programme was
presented, and the audience was large
and attentive. Some excitement VA:
caused by the Alumnus address o.
Vim. l.. Boughner, of Morgantown
who seems TO have disgraced himself
and dishOnored the school. Hi
name should be stricken from the
ron Of the Alumni. We copy from
the Post:
"Mr. Bcuchncr began his address
In a quiet, easy way, his manner de
noting considerable seli-reliance
, while his cOuntenance was aclov
with RI exulant smile. After re,
, ferrins TO the pleasant memories
scenes and associations of College life
&c, he commenced a personal attach
, upon some II the Faculty, which TO
downright impotence stands as ,
/ model in It's way. His abuse wa
direct. and aroused within the breast
of those at whom it was launched tn,
fire Of resentment. The President o
the Institution, however. after Mr.
B. had proceeded at some length, n