The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-01-27

TIE Vice President chosen for the same term elected
but nehnr he Prosden or nor he ve Pre
dent waep tne ONCE OF PRESIDENT hes de soyed upon
He remarked that the amendment would not
arect the next Presidential term. and he moved
the previous question.
the previous question was seconded ana the
main question ordered.
Mr. +. r. HoAR (rep.) OF Mass, expressed his sur.
prise tnat snch proposition should he passed
Mr. POTTER replied that II any question had been
discussed and discussed until everybody WITHIN
the house ana outside wos familiar with II, II
this question.
Mr.GARrlKLp, rep.l OF Ohio, inquired how it
would oe win wee President succeeding 10 the
Presidential office within week OF the close Of
the once. with It's restrictions and disabilities
NIT. r. X. HoAR remarked that. wnlle he was not
occasion when he should iavor or believe the
American people would favor the con finance OF
terms. he did not believe that an argument as TO
the corruption OF the people by rover was one
co,,s the srsnsn OF when the eop, snsua
against such influence as 10 deliberately deprive
themselves OF the power OF selecting tueir Chier
Magistrate He remembered a conye. satlon
which he had with an eminent gentleman stand
ing high in ONCE in reference to the rejection
HoarI had then SAD that he pensyed
the American people Intended TO re-eiect Mr.. Lin
coin. II necessary during the rest OF his lie, un II
he was ecognIzed by every part o. the country as
did not propose TO ala in deprlvlng the American
people OF the r2ht, under any emergency or eX-
igencv, OF determining whom they should keep IN
tue Presidential cnair. lie dill not believe thai
they ever would keep man beyond the ime
when Washingtol's example had sanctioned and
but IL was very grave and serious question TO
deprive me peop e OF the power 10 choose.
serious question with all popular governments
whether lhe'igloility should Apply to any but lie
next term Of Office. and he proposed 10 amend the
Dill ID that respect allowing eligibility alter SIX
years..
b The amendment was allowed to be oGercd
on motion OF Mr.. +. K. HuAa the vote ordering
the main question was reconsidered ana me ques-
ton opened TO discussion.
Mr.. BUTLER. (rep.l OF Mass, defended the Judlc-
iary Committee nom the implied censure oil his
colleague tNr noar) in regard TO passing copsii-
turlonal amen ment under the previous question
The proposition was Simply offered 10 tne American
people 70 decide after u consideration and without
any previous question. Ii the House said tnal It
would not orer them such an amendment there
was no way la winch the people could discuss ana
pass upon II. me hou sc conla stand IN rue way
vi constitutional amcncm ants, but A. could not
bind the people IN any Oturr way therefore he
should be pretty rnerai IN vosilg propositions Tor
cOnst.tu onal amendments to oc sent 10 the
people. II the people wanted them tLcy ought 10
/ have them, ana II they d.d not want them they
woalL taSe good care IN The several States not TO
Mr. HAzELroN repl of w's.-uave there been
portions from the several states ior this amcud-
Mr.. BUTLER-For long series OF years there
have oeen agtatlons ard petitions Tor TINS amend-
meut. 1t has been urged all over the country.
an IL cones up now without any possible per-
sonai relations to It. Nobody. SO far rs Enow,
mas single idea OF any possible personal ella
lions to the present Executive agree That The
people ought to nave ine right to elect u man
President Just many times a. tney choose TO do,
and nobous ought TO interfere wIih that right.
But the people ought also to have correlative
nan more than once Il they want to SAY 90 ana II
we Will not give them that privilege they
can never nave the opportunity o. SAVING
ton refers to the corruption OF the
people 10y the President but that 1t rather refers
said ha; the flrSi congress that com IN VITA Il
new President Is engaged in getting the orioes
gaged In seeing how 1t can make new Pre- .lnent,
so as TO get the offices under hlm IL 49, there.
1ore desirable to nave one term OF Congress lor
attending to business without any sen tem2la-
ton. 1t has also been SAID that the reason why
the country has been 50 unsuccessful IN Vica
Presidents when they became Presidents is that
shey nave always looAed 10 Reelection, aud,
therefore, we propose to take away the tempta-
ton from the wee President as well as rom the
President.
POSSIBLE NECESSITIES OF THE NATION.
dltfer, however, with my colleague (Mr. HOar).
can conceive OF condition OF things under
which would vote Tor u President three, iour,
MIR. Z. X. HoAR-Aow does my colleague diner
from me in saying THAR
Mr.. BUTLER-ll I do not differ with my colleague
! say To-day that believe that the saying OF the
late President Lincoln mad good sense and good
crossing a stream" When George Washington
SCI US the example ne had got across ana all was
ana eue sat tue time w9sn you'd
" hen q strong hand has mold Of the government
and when III time OF commoton. in time oil rebel
hon, In time when thousands and thousands are
murdered IN one sectlOn Of the country without
any punishment for their murder, and the people
feela doubt as to what VIII be The III ure OF the
country without reelection, then can conceive
a possibility OF the people coming up as one man
to the re-election of strong nand that VIII nOid
the government in the future he N
the past. Tnen they Will cry out, In Inc language
OF tie poet laureate or Great Britain,
Oh, God, Tor man with head, heart and hand,
ArsocrS Ssi cy call him.
One who can rule and dare not lie.
POSSIBILITY OF A THIRD TERM.
l can conceive OF that ana the only thing tnat
Will ever make third term successful and warn
my democratic irIeuus oil 1t, Is the keepng of one
itse.I. If tDlru term Tor the Presidency is now
made posslp,c IL Is mace so only by the upturning
whlchyou Indicating the democras) nave thrown
upon us, and II 1t Is possible II Will be done by YOU
Mr.. l.. X. loAR-My sole object was 10 turn the
attention OF the House to what seemed to De a
cOurs Of proceeding which was not commend
abe on question or TINS grave importance. |
thought THAT 1t ought to DO discussed If any mem.
bcf VI INC House desired 10 discuss IT. 1 wish to
league tur. Butler) that with facility Tor mis-
understanding the remarks which | MAKE. lie was
suggested thai we were binding the Amer.
lean people. SPOKE OF the wisdom OF
themselves or their Successors such q point
ana would like TO ask my colleague where the
evidence is Iound UI tnat strong desire OF the
American people to bind themselves, which ne
SPEAKS OF Are their petitions on your table
have any Of us bcea charged with pelt'ons for
be so, but l am nos aware that any
sueh petltlon mas come rom my district.
whether they have come to my colleague
from his district lie knows best. Is there any
thing IN 1t but these same ne wspa pers, when my
Colleague IL so Iond OF aQVertnA to. tuat give him
TINS Information If hesuesiie the Ancricah
people Mr.. speaker, ] am willing to trust tGe
American PEG lie on all occasions IN the selection
OF their Chiei Magistrate. | believe tnat there is
not nan as much danger oil corruption IN the
election 10 onlccs OF luieror position to his whicu
are the SUBJECT or personal amUtion ana personal.
desife. Inc President OF the Unlted States Is
elected by great waves OF public sentiment. rne
people are always aroused on that occasion and
manifest ,he.r Wi and why tue people OF to-day
should undertake ny