Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1875-03-12
Third .Termlsm -CiYil Rights-Military
Rule-Ihe Future Of the Republican
aud the Policy Of the Demo-
cratic Party.
johnson, Herman, ChristiancJ, Eaton,
Dawes, Randolph, Jones, WhIte,
a'MiIIan, M'DOnald, Paddock,
Withers and Cameron.
Views OF the Leaders Of IS75-6-h hat
They Thiak and Say OF the Future
What 6raut and His AdmiRis.
tratiOn Have to Confront
Etc, Etc.

The Herald representative called upon
| Ex-P President johnson, at his rooms in
the Imperial hotel to-day, and question:
ed him upon his views ana policy as
follows:
Correspondent-Mr Senator, what is
your idea Of the congress which has just
adjourned?
Andrew Johnson-I think, sir, it left
the Republican party in an exceedingly
bad plight.
Correspondent-What do you think Of
! the force bill?
Andrew JohnsOn-I can see how that
! bill, in the hands of q bad man-such a
man as Grant, a man seeking only
place, power and pelf-Grant is man
| of greed-I can see how in his hands
! this bill might have worked incalculable
| injury. do not say that it certainly
would have come to that, but there was
| great danger. If the country had been in
| Iheproper condition, if all the other neces-
! sary circumstances had been present,
| can very easily see how Grant might,
! by q suspension of the writ of hdbe0S
| corpus nave so awed the people Of the
| south that he might have overturned
! one State government after another
until not only the election of 1873 would
| be assured to the Republican party, but
| the thing might easily end in al empire.
Mark you, | do not say this was the
| inevitable result of that law. say it
| was possibility, and dangerous cne.
Correspondent-Your idea Of the civil
rights bill and IFS effect2
Andrew JOhnsOn-With the cemetery
and school clauses eliminated it is not SO
ojectionable as originally drafted.
! Nevertheless, believe the people OF the
country have come 10 the conclusion
that either the negro must be put in his
proper place, or the two races must
Separate. | think the matter will event
ually settle itselfif policy of modera-
ton and calmness prevails.
Correspondent-And now what do you
think of the political outlook?
Andrew johnson 1t is not all clear. /
think the people of the south are dis
posed to be prudent and careful, and if
the entire Democratic party act in q
proper way We may return to happy
| prosperity. Both of the existing parties
are on trial. In New York the Demo
Gratis carried the State last fall by about
fifty thousand, while two years before the
Republicans had 8 msjOrity of fifty thou
sand: but this was not ali clear gain.
that refused to vote with the Republi-
can party, and yet was not ready to join
the Democracy. 1t is this element That
must be secured before either party can
hope for success st the next election,
and If moderate counsel prevail | have
no doubt the Democrats may secure it.
In the south, l thil K, there is marked
improvement. phes!eellng OF terrorism
which necessarily sprung up and follow
ed the rebellion is dyidg out, breaking
| down, and men are beginning to act
and think for themselves. My election
! illustrated this. Against me were ranged
| a number OF Confederate generals,
! and some effort to enforce the old spirit
! of terrorism in their behalf was made;
| but it failed. My election was the first
! triumph of [ nion principles in Tennes.
| see since the war. l advised the people
! to adopt a broader view of public af-
| fairs. What we want is to nationalize
| ourselves. We have been denatiOnal-
! lied long enough. We want to step out
on more national plane, TO identify
| ourselves in national issues and nation
! al politics, to be no longer controlled by
! local or sectional Influences. think L
| saw the fruit of this advice in my elec-
! ton. l was thoroughly Union man,
and so recognized, and my election was
recognition of Union princi-
| ples. Let the whole south en-
deavor TO nationalize itself in this way
! and the future is bright. And now L
want the Herald to correct one thing for
me. An impression has gone abroad
! that come here TO Svenge my private
| grievances, to redress personal injuries.
| 1t is not so. / have now no wrongs to
| hv1f alanfInn
settled all personal injuries ever intiict-
ed. I consider that triumph sufficient,
and bury all of my grievances behind it.
| | cOme now to deal only with present
issues. OF course, if any of my acts
while President were attacked, 1t
| might be necessary at some time
to defend myself, but that aside, l com
here not as a party man, but en-
tirely independent. Then, straighten.
ing himself to his full hight, Mr.. John
son continued very impressively: 81
come here, as it were, bearing the olive
| branch in one hand and the constitution
OF my country in the other. come
with balm from Gilead. l come to pOul
oil on the gaping wounds of my cOun.
try, | come for peace" On being asked
whether he should affiliate with the
i Democrats, the ex-President said ne had
not participated in the Democratic eau.
Gus, as be had never seen any good arise
from caucuses. He should be entirely
independent.
SENATOR CAPERToN, OF WEST VIRGINIA
Senator Caperton, of West Virginia
said he considered it premature to give
his views on the political situation o.
outlook at this time. He wished to be
unen barrassed in the future by not Civ
ing expression to opinions now which
might assume different phases or pro-
portions months hence. His voice on
all questions should, in his opinion, b.
recorded on the right side. AS sena-
tor he was opposed TO giving strong ex
preston to his views on any topics il
advance OF their discussion in the sen
ate OF the United States.
SENATOR WITHERs, OF VIRGINIA.
Senator Withers, or Virginia, says ht
regards the civil rights bill as a measure
which can result in no benefit at all tC
the culored race, and likely to increas'
antagonism between the whites anC
blacks. The force bill he regards as al
uneauivOc3l indication Of purpose OIL
the part Of General Grant and the ex
tremists Of the Republican party t
control the election III the four States L
which it would have been made appli
cable, so as to secure their votes in 1871
for Grant. The resumption of speci'
payments il, of course, the only sur,
remedy for the financial troubles, but {
, sudden contraction, such as must Oc
cur in consequence of precepitste actor
? in this direction, must necessarily adj
. to the stringency, and should, il pos
sibIe, be avoided. The convertibiiity
scheme has much TO commend il as q
means OF preventing such crisis as tina
which occurred l&s5 year. In regsr'
, to the success OF the DemUcratic party
/ he said: With ordinary ssgacity in tht
management of the Democratic paEtl
success in 1876 is assured. Extremist
! will not control the action Of the party
D and the people, north and south ar
!. tired OF tie war issues. The struggle i
K. 1875 will be one more sharply define
!. than ever before, in which the constitT
1 tiOn AMI the rights Of the States unde
2 1t will be maintained by the Democrat
!, party, and Capitalization of power !
the hands Of the general gOvernmeT
: wiz be advocated by the Republicans
= Disguise it as they may, these are th
essential points of difference