New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-12-21
THE HEARING.

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Investigating Commission met this morning to continue
the examination OF Auditor Thayer. Some moments
were spent in hearing the demand of @. W. Miller, Mr
Thayer's counsel, to allow a long statement Dy MI
1hyer 10 he read. Mr. Bigelow said that the ComuS-
did not propose allow the record 10 be inc'm-
bered with irrelevant MATERIAL and that al examination
must first be had. Mr.. Thayer then examined at
length Tie material points In his testimony are AS Io
low:
Certificates were issued a warrant TO pay Flagler
Reilly ia $50 work dono piiOr TO tho LIST % May
lc7J. was interested In these certificates oonsider
the law vi 1870, which amends another law, jsuhed
the payment Of vu,s. anding certificates.
Mr. Orr-Dd yOl tnlnk this law OF 1870 authorized
you 10 pay Tor work done IN violation OF law
Mr. Tnayer-I considered myself authorized to pay
Ins aggregate OF my transactions with the Troy
city bain 23l 0sJ 80. have no record OF these
transactions excepC upon scraps OF PAPER iDeVer Kept
IL book account Oh tnen
Mr orr-Have you those scraps of paperi
A. may nave; don't know.
Mr. OT-N nj you LOOK Tor them
n. VIII; nave no concciilDent 10 make. .
q. HoA much money dbl You pay Denni-0nf A. AZ
make II 75O642 O6, less nearly one months
look was about monlh's Interest; bought these for
my rer aud some Is OF - days alter paid myseif
Air. Magone read the law stating 1t the duty of the
Auditor require cctn papers from engineers before
paying &c, uhcates o. dIiils.
Nj. bhdyei L hdu co w woo W TO" "'J WIN ="
az, Mgone-I ask if you did not have to audit them
! wien Iue law requires you to audit 7
Mr. Masone-And yet, being Auditor of the State, You
purchased certificates which yUu were ~ audit
MIR. Inayef-hc s, sir
Mr. Masone-On whose account did you purchase GER
tncates ior q. A. stone for s33oUOi 49,
MI rdayer-t was on account OF the Troy City
partlss-r Lager and kliey aud N. l.. Osborne; al
bought TIE days; OsbOrnes was ON May 20, ut
know now nuoii It amounted to; dIunt know tine
ag.ceuent to pay tlagcr, and Riley, aud Brown WAS
made by my blotuer TO pay "A debt OF hIs
air Magone-i Iind llat you put in possession Of
S3VVUVo ny the Controller " apply W this WORK before
Mr. Tnayeftaicu must bear in mind that borrowed
money must Dc tassn care oi first - 49,
M. Masone-Tnat We know nothing of. We did not
know your bo. Rowing money Tor uns work DID you
MIR. Ynayer-l don6 know we had bor-
rvwcL aLy that work know spoke to Mr..
cvud puy tne that must t,Ke care Of our debts
INST tod lls to ir. SKINNER and SAID we woald nave
To depend upon TIE accommodation u inc panK Tor ie"
ar. Magone-You have that you did not know Of
Way yoa dcuuct To pay Osborn Instead VI buying his
air. Tnay er-All can say that the borrowed money
had Ia be paid. l cannot say positively whether any
borrowed The books Of lne Commissioners OF aAe
Canal und Val Snow tnaG
Wac produced AMI examined
q Wnen u,d SOd pay tnis $l33,OoO spoken OF here
A. 4 can't ray the boohs wll snow
o. suppose you PAID tie $3.50 900, how mueb would be
lea. vi 40 SIVOUvV received IRON the Conroilcrf A
~ ric yoI nad that amount applicable TO these
ti.cd.esi A. Bat tao prtctce Lao Oeen 10 pay i oor-
O. 10 YOU ,.y YOU mad authority 20 take money Of
oue iuuI pay .uJtue.f A. Wen, want 10 SAY -
AIR. o.r-tlcase ser TINS you had SJOo,OOO; now
ten you witl AL TINS money before you pdn
Lac crrncat, - A. tell that without seeing
tue bovas OF record OF Commissioners VI the Canal
Fund. - 80
Mr. Tbayer--rn the OF the willard johnson cert
eat, =, 4 money Troy cay Bank
Ddnk win Mchie; LIE gave ms hoIe, ana
bought tie certificates ana lasscu IN
ar PelsoD, vsuen ot lie bank, Ia hOid Iaei
Tor me.
Mr. Nagone-D0nt you remember at we gave you
notice, purchase Vi tuVsc certificates, tiat they
were LIauduIcntf
MI,ncss-No, SAT-.
NJ .Iagone-i know, and all the members OF the Com
mI-slu AIJw 10, ivr We gaSs you written notice.
1nyei-i would not nave advised their purohase
II uai Occu we've fraudulent was an
su,e nat tney not fraudulent III i affidavit maize
w islOs DewOli. Tat AFFIDAVIT ! drvw up. II
Was part of the bargain that was To
nave ulavit paid for tne Willard Johnson Ser
tltcatcs per cent oil I,ces ana accrued Interest
Tat amounted to 1926 20, addition ~ the accrued
Interest, 10 about Pi ,uOi tile gross dis
count about 10 per cent l secured from the bank
$1,000 more t.ian TIE certificates when gave ~
security amounted TO-
Tie Auditor testified among other things that he de-
ened pay certificates TO owners ON the ground
that the funds were available. His testimony and
tue records show however that funds were available.
and he subsequently pur hased the same certificates
ut discount, aud audited and paid them out OF the same
funds baud when he refused payments 10 the owners
OF certificates The Commission adjourned TIL ~