New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1875-06-22
MRS MOTIONS CONTRADICTIONS.

language that he used ~ you remember It, and go
through the whole interview IN that form OF what he SAID
and OF what you said, II you know what II lsf A. We'll,
began by saying that he was depressed and discour
aged
q Was this after your husband went away'
A. He expressed great sorrow athe had
brought upon himself and Mrs. TtOn, upon everybody
connected with the but said that he iet tat Nc %
thoroughly repented and that he had been forgiven ana
that he better fitted now 10 preach than ever beor
he expressed his love for Elizabeth and his great
remorse that she should have ever confessed
would bring only rum in the end to all after lying on
the sofa little while he got up and walked up ana down
ing down his cheeks and said that he Thought 1t was
very hard after lie OF usefulness tat he should De
brought this fearful end, and said that thought
vast very hard and there was only one way OUT
OF it for him. there was only one chance
after walking up and down for some time
he sat down in the chair stood behind MIN and put my
hand on his shoulder, and said " Mr. Beecher, II you
will only down 10 the church. Frank will go with you
ne will stand by you through every thing; IL does nor
and. matter what comes will always be your friend
If you will only down the church and confess, be-
cause that the only way out for you am convinced
Of that; you such crime a TINS anu
continue in the pulpit except through confession on
your own part You been guilty OF crime, and You
have got To take the responsibility upon youfSen anu
suffer the penalty"
Now it is said this very extraordinary language fora
lady to hold to pastor like Mr. Beecher, and would be
in the GOODNESS OF ordinary conversation aud intercourse
but you remember that great secret had been con-
ded this lady concerning this great man You must
remember that her husband in whose judgment she re-
led was striving TO conceal that secret and protect Mr.
Beccher from its consequences. You must remember
that at this very interview Mr. Beecher before her.
an agonzed and PROSTATE in spirit confessinS his
error protesting that had confessed and repented in
his private relations with his Maker and Redeemer that
here was great spirit writing and tortured with the
remorse felt for his oense; that this lady was the
only woman EARTH as he said, to whom he could go
for comfort and consolation This il not pretense, gen
temen appears in the letters Of Henry Ward Beecher
He Acknowledges the great comfort which this woman
gave him. "a substitute for that which in olden times
be derived from Mrs Tlton but OF different character
and plane Under these circumstances, IN scene OF
such intense interest, you not to expect az have
before said you that the distinctions and quahea-
tons between rank and station or qualities are
preserved. There is freedom not only of express
sion. but freedom OF sentiment and OF feeling.
Great sorrow great excitement OF any kind, associates
and equazes human minds and hearts; and this woman,
eyincing precisely that faculty OF which Mt Beecher
spoke in his letter. and which often laid him flat
this woman in the sincerity OF her Christian spirit and
womany sympathy, and with the clearness Of percep-
ton which accompanied her through the whole OF her
connection with transactions and said that the
only escape was by confession Not simply repentance
in the closet and in the prayer but confession to his
church-a confession which would still ali the disturbing
elements OF that congregation; confession when would
give peace and quiet the stormy elements Of their COM
nit and their deacOns-whch would still West which
would satisfy Halliday and Bell and all the others who
were dstrustul uneasy at the situation between MT
Beecher this scandal and the congregation And this adj
vice OF this lady appealed the judgment Of Mr. Beecher
rs expressed in his cooler and better moments In of
his sermons he says;
The man who has been waOwng in lust the man who
has been on fire in his passions and who by Cots great
GOODNESS has been brought hour and moment
When with the urd light OF revelation, his inonstous
wickedness stands disclosed 10 him, and all excuses are
and the impulse 10 REFORM Is NJ last gen
Grated in himtha ought not to wait so long as the
drawing OF his breath. Wherever he l., no matter now
ecoros his audience may be- he does the thing that is
safest and best he Will rise in his place and make confess
Though 1t be IN the church. ana IL peak the oruer
and routine ~ service he will stand up ana Here
am sinner, and confess my sin, and call on God to
witness my determination rom TINS hour 20 turn away
from it," That the wise and you would think
If il anybody else but yourself
Gentlemen that sermon was delivered on the Goth day
OF December, 1865.
Mrs. Moulton proceeds
And he said Well. never gather much comfort from
YOU; you always to me like section OF the Day OF
judgment" And said :" Well. feel great sympathy
for YOU; but do MT how you continue IN this
sort OF Me-!iynS a lie going into your pulpit and
heard YOU preach knew the truth that have MT
felt that was standing by open grave cannot ex
caused know what have of your life. believed
in you since was girl-believed you were the only
good in this world Now IL has destroyed my faith
in human nature. | don't believe anybody; mt
20 churha ny interest in the church and in you Is
gone. and am IRE cannot respect you unless You
manifest TO M that you are sincerely re,
pcntaut. By going down to the church and
Mr.. T!lton 10 be abused by your friends ana to be
charged with treating bis family l-hs untndnees TO
his Nfc-wiic he feels that you are principally the
Of all his trouble Il l. very hard for him; 1t Is
very hard for all concerned II you are only mind to
this into your own hands, you can settle II by
confession. Your people Will stand ny you; they believe
in you they will forgive this crime that You say
YOU have committed. and which you hay,-whieA you
say hayc-siucerely rcpented for and you believe
YOU have forgiven. and YOU feel that you better
able now than ever 10 great good in this world.
II you only b. allowed TO 60 on to the end OF your
known; that Is all that you ask; and the facts Gc to
come out you want 10 20 out OF life that you cannO
live; that you cannot endure 1t any longer; physically
and mentally yon worn out aud 1t Is only with the
greatest that you have been able to preach sunday
after sunday"
Mr. Eyarts interrupted the witness and finally says
My inquiry, II your Honor please was whether this
last was what she said Mr. Beecher. and in the
form OF what she advised him 10 say to his people:
The Witness don't know that ever stated 10 him
what the confession shoald be To the church simply
left left that to him. He knew what his confession to
the church could be better than could-how much he
q understand your form of expres.o in this latter
part OF what told min he should tell his
people. A. This my conversation with him; / sim
ply said 10 HIM that thought he should mike comics
sion 10 his people.
Now great deal has been said about the improbable
iy OF the idea Lady should this suggestion
that Mr. Beecher should 10 his church and make bold
and naked confession OF all the details the disgusting
particulars OF his oense. and 1t IL said that i'm
probable advice for any Lady anybody else 70 give
this pastor Well IL Ia Christian advice gentlemen IL
is such advice Us Henry Ward Beecher gave In Dccm
ber 1865 in public II Is the only way Of OBJ
tanning forgiveness for sin aud reconciliation with an
offended law-giyer. II Is what this womaa had been
taught and She In the sincerity and OF her
sympathy and affection for this man. said him what
every Christian stirred TO his her hearts by an
exhibition OF such suffering aud penitence the part
great spirit would ami nstinctively have said
"You struggling with the world Mr.. Beecher you
have committed great sin, and by penltence aud
fcssion 10 God you have obtained, you say. his for
lrveness; but you involved ia a whir pool
Of secular difieultes-your church Is distracted,