The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-02-20

OF the time this interview with Mrs. .Tllton took
place; IL must have been earlier than 1873; 1t
might POSSIBLY have been IN the ia OF 1871, but
do not remember positively; | cannot dx the date
at all; know 1t was alter my interview with Mr..
Beecher, because she asked me from whom had
heard 1t; told her the truth, that Mr. Beecher
told me; that Is the best reason can give you for
interview with Mr.. Beecher was in the first week
house frequently before he spoke to me; can't
spring OF ISL or later; don't remember the
tme-the season; only know 1t was IN 1871; 1t
know; Mr.. Beecher. on all the occasions have
spoken to him, expressed the greatest sohcitude
that Mrs. fiton should be properly considered
and treated by everybody; ne always expressed
the greatest Kindness and consideration for
er ne yS ha you'd oe treat
her house In Livingston street; l have seen her
IN two or three rooms OF the house; don't
remember where FIRST saw her: don't remem-
Der how long saw her; remember visiting her
at time when l supposed that there might
would bring these matters into contest, and ask
Ing her II there should be a contest between her
be; don't remember that that Is either OF the
occasions to which referred in my direct exami.
you (hir. Evarrs) refer, and the occasion OF IL;
thinK 1t was at the time that Mr.. MOuton went
down TO the church /; don't know in what year;
sne proposed 10 ADOPT IN case she was called be-
lore the church; refer TO the time when there
was talk about dropping Mr.. Tton from the
church; as near as l remember 1t was that time.
9: DID you go Of your own accord or was it
your desire to gOP A. l went OF my own accord.
q. You did not 20 OF your husbands desire or IN
MS interest or Of his request2 A. No. sir.
T. ana your OBJECT Was TO learn what her view
what position she proposed TO take.
z. DO you remember asking her whether she
should support her husband in q charge against
Mr.. Beecher or whether she should not, and her
answer being made to you that If there ever came
controversy she should speak the truth? A. No,
sir; dOn'L remember that.
Q. You don't remember that9 A. No, sir.
what she should do one way or the others a.
don't remember that urged; can tell you what
SAID to her.
Q. Did YOU speak to her on the question OF which
side she should talkY A. No. SIR
2. or did you express an opinion as to which
Q. wereyo at tina. interview very much excited
and dstressedP A. think was. sir.
and weepa A. might have done So
her great distress lest Mr.. Beecher should be
betrayed by Mr.. Tilton aud your husband A.
Not that he would be betrayed BY them, oui
that the truth would be made knoWn-maae
public.
Q. BY thems A. Yes, sir. by them.
z. BY them Now, aid you in that interview In
expressing your opinion as to what Mr. Tton and
Mr.: Mooiton would 90, beg her to stand by Mr..
Beec ler? A. SO long as she could without sacrl.
hcng herself and the truth.
O. Q: pa you beg her to stand BY MT Beecher' A.
o. You did beg herr a. Very iikelv aid uie 'ru'n'
q. Ana didn's she then tell you that whenever
inquiry came she would tell the TRUTH A, No,
Q. Did she tell you that she should not tell the
TRUTH A. She told ne distinctly that shd should
sacrifice her husband and deny everything Tor
Mr.. Beecher's sake; she felt uader the circum-
stances she would be justified In telling a lie.
No% Won se ae as her
Mr.. Beecher. to save herselff A. Yes. sir.
Q. That she said she would tell lief A. Yes
Sir, am; can't as 10 the word she used-thaL
she used the word lie; she said she would deny
everything.
II she diont use the word ''le" she useo false
hood"
:, 9. DID she say she should tell falsohooas A.
Q. One or tue other, "lie" or "falsehood y, A.
Yes, sir.
O. Did You go to your house satisfied that the
errand had succeeded ? A. have never ielt that
any errand OF mine has ever peen successful.
q. In this business A. No, SIR
q. DO you remember, Mrs. Moulton, about Mr..
Beecher's portrait having been brought to your
Q. Do you remember when that was A. l don't
remember the year, whether we had 1t In Clinton
street or not: | don't remember.
.. NO recollection A. Not as to that.
Q. But stlll you can recOlect whether it has
been in your house number OF years9 A. We
years-four years. think; think 1t has been in
our house since we lived IN Remsen street.
z. Ever since? A. think 1t has.
O. Now, where was 1t hung3 A. In the front
parlOr.
q And at any time was it removed from that
placer A. removed lives, SIR.
o. When? A. This last autumn.
O. Put another portrait IN its placer A Yes,
@ Where was Mr.. Beecher's portrait putt A.
Mr. Beecher's portrait still. stands on the mantel
piece, in our 'front.' room, second story.
O. rhis rOomy A. It is q sitting room.
q. Not BEDROOM A. Not ut present; 1t is not
O. Was It bedroom when the portrait was mt
thercy A. NO, sir; the reason we have not occu-
pied that room
O. 1t is the room in which the interviews took
place. aud there 1t has remained, has 1t not A.
q a E a. ss ss paSs"sa
'e.sRs ysd al As While NJ hers sor.
lights arranged especially to display it9 A. Not
to show the Inherent pictures In the room.
Q. Including tnisf A. Including that, yes, sir.
& Y9g know Mr.. Andrew McLeanf A. have
Q. He IS Brooklyn man A. Yes, sir.
q. DO you remember conversation With him
about Mr.. Beecher, looking at that portrait
showing it TO hims A. don't understand the
Q. Do you remember q conversation with that
gentleman while you were exhibiting to him Mr..
Beecher's portrait A. never remember ex-
hibit.ng Mr.. Beechers portrait to him particu-
@. DO you remember in November or December,
1872, IN your parlor expressing to Mr. Andrew
Ma m Sew OF anu M M ar 10 inc
for himf A. think expressed my admiration
for MIR. Beecher; don't remember now the exact
conversation, but think that expressed perhaps
my admiration OF Mr.. Beecher; but certainly not
my confidence.
Q. You are quite sure you didn't say ''conn.
dences'' A. l am quite sure; don't remember
the exact CONVEX sation we had; have always
spoken to everybody OF my admiration for Mr..
Beecher.
O. Didn't you say to Mr.. Mclean that he was q
pure man? A. don't remember that said that
Q. And good man? A. don't remember to
have said that
Q. And entirely innocent OF the Woodruff
charges? A. No, sir, never said that to any BODY
O. Nothing oil that kind A. No, sir never to
ANYBODY.
O. DO you now remember having had CONVEX
satIon with MIR. Mclean? A. remember Mr.. Nc
Lean waiting In our parlor for MI. Mouton; 1
remember hts calling attention TO Mr.. Beecner's
portrait; think quite likely expressed my ad-
mrati0n for Mr.. Beecher, which l have never
failed to do.
Q. Never what A. I have always expressed my
admiration Tor Mr.. Beecher.
Q. Now, are you quite sure you didn't say to Mr..
Mclean as part OF your admiration Tor Mr..