The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-06-05
THE RED CHIEFS.

ANOTHER INTERVIEW WITH SECRETARY DE-
LANo-PUNGENT REMARKS FROM SPOTTED
TAIL on INTERNATIONAL nAw-THE SECRET
COUNCIL.
WASHINGTON, June 4, 1875.
The Indians we're all brought up to the Interior
Department about ten O'Clock this morning and
grouped in the open inner court OF the building,
where their photographs were taken by the
operator or the Patent ONCE Department Red
Cloud declined to join the group. saying that they
could have his picture by paying him $25 for it.
Afterward some OF the prominent Chiefs with
Bishop Hare, Major Bingham, Major Howard and
Mr.. Human, were taken in agroup by themselves.
The Indians then repaired to the Secretary's room.
where Secretary Delano neld brief conncil with
them, assuring them OF the good wishes OF the
department toward them, and that II they did not
believe him and do as ne advised he was afraid
they would hereafter believe him 70 their sorrow.
lie told them that II they would take the s25, 600
he would try to get $4,000 more for them next
winter II they did not he would refuse to let
them have the privilege OF hunting on the Smoky
Hill Fork any longer. lie could not afrord to have
the peace OF the country disturbed or incur the
danger OF having murders committed by allowing
taem TO hunt there any longer.
SPOTTED TAIL
said that he wanted 10 do what was right, and
that the Great Spirit had told him never TO steal
had the same sense of right we could get along
well enough. The country spoken OF belongs 10
the Crows. The treaty OF 1868 gave MIN his
country. When you buy you pay great price,
and we do the same. AS for the Black Hills they
are worth heap, and 1t is not worth While !or US
to talk about them.
Req Cloud wanted to have the bills o; the white
men VINO had come with him PAID, and he gave
the secretary list or their names, which was re-
ferred TO the Commissioner OF Indian Analrs.
spotted Tan SAID ne wanted 10 tax about his
woulu like TO 30 home tomorrow after breakfast.
The secretary here Withdrew, telling the In
dams that they might talk OIL night with the Com
missioner about their agencies II they wanted 70.
After little further parley they Withdrew, expect
ing TO have another talK during the aay. PROBES
sor Marsh and the Board OF Indian Commissioners
were present during the interview
THE SECRET COUNCIL EXPLAINED.
Secretary Delano and Assistant secretary
Cowen authorize the statement that the order ex-
Guiding reporters and Others rom being present
directly from the President ana not from the Sec
Rotary. The President gave the order simply
because the room was so small ana tue crowd so
great that he feared the interview would be en-
barrassed and rendered uncomfortable by the
pressure AT the same time he directed General
Cowen 10 nave verbatim report made and lur-
nlsned TO the press
BISHOP nAHE's USAvAnNG EFFORTS.
Bishop Hare held an interview with the Indians
at the fremont House tonight ana endeavored
to snow them the advantages which they might
derive by surrendering the Black INNS TO the gov
eminent for a portion OF land east OF the Mis-
souri, River which ne assured them was much
better for their habtation and use. lie assured
them that the President was in earnest
In his efforts TO keep white people
out or their territory, but thought It
would be wiser Ia them 20 give up
the Black Hills II the government would agree TO
feed ana clotne them Tor a Number OF years.
Red Cloud replied that he had ears and judy
ment-botn. He mad heard such talk ever since
he had been here, and he had Deen listening, but
had not said much. When the white men came 70
his country he would turn the tables and have
great many things 10 say on his side OF the ques-
ton.
Tney expect to start for home tomorrow, and
Will go by way OF New York, where they viii re-
main two or three days.