National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1875-09-20

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train. ! Immediately went 70 my once, and when
] got there found lying on my desk note from
the Department Of Justice, esking me % can
Tat wsat n they wanted 70 see me me about was in
reference 10 this Snyder case. It seemed to be
spprehended that this man uhs had personated
It might be necessary that shoxld be here, II he
were here, in order that We might take the neces-
sary steps to hold him he was arrested. 1 had
cording to appointment. At the suggestion
Of one Of the officers at the Department
Of Justice, on my way to the depot, stopped
had been requested 70 look AFTER this particular
case, and then went on to the depot and saw MI.
Claryoe. The trainwas almost on the eve OF
time. I said TO Mr.. Ciarvoe that since had LETT
him matter had come up that made It very i'm
portsnt that should remain In Washington.
this Snyder case, and had not communicated It to
anybody up to that time, except Mr.. Perry; that
1 thought If he would 90 on to Baltimore he could
davit Just as well could take It; that he knew
the facts and could state the facts to the commits
sioner, and the commissioner could write the an:
went on, and that If he would do that II would
be an
AccoMMoDAIIoN TO NE.
He assented to that. turned away from him and
went back to my office, and that was the last that
! saw Of Mr.; Claryoe that day, and that Is all
that know OF what occurred.
Mr.. Cook: Q. As a matter Of fact, did he pro-
cure an affidavit for you on that day and return
Il Was moi tnss aaS me Ma y Ts
desire TO have me state It, viii give the reason
be stated to me why 1t was not taken on that day;
when he eot to the once, or called upon the gen.
tleman who YVES to take this affidavit, he had left
his oface; am not exactly sure about that, but
that the affidavit would be taken perhaps, the
next day, as 1t seems TO me-possibly It was Mon
gay Or very soon Afterwards, according TO the
time that Mr.. Olarvoe had said to me. that the
affidavit would!be taken. The affidavit seems 70
have been taken, because 1t was handed to me BY
MT Olaryoe, and l subsequently used Il
IN the preliminary examination In tie Brown case.
Perhaps It is proper that should state that my
connection with the Snyder case began on this
particular day that have mentioned; that the
next morning Immediately began to cast about
me to see on what charge we could undertake to
hold this man If he were brought here. i went
into an examination Of that question, and the
next morning came into the Police Court IS soon
as could get there to see whether or not. he had
filed an affidavit. My object was TO hold him tenn.
tpncS a az tSs tGr perjury II ne had male
for that purpose, and then aseertained this man
had been brought over here the night before and
on the subject, unless you can refresh my recol-
lection by some question.
By Mr.. Cook: Q. As matter Of fact, that afh-
between us, and used In the case Of the United
States against Brown? A. Yes, sir, I.have 30
stated; have the affidavit at my ofhcs now.
The affidavit was handed to me In a yellow
envelope. 1t was addressed to Mr.. Clarvoe.
By Col Berret: Q. Mr.. Claryoe went to Bslti-
more solely upon your suggestion? A. could
aCt say that. can say this, that did earnestly
solicited rim to go, or whether he had any other
business over there, OF course do not know. So
ar as my knowledge, however, goes
EARNESTLY SOLICITED
Mr.. Ciarvoe to go. He first said to me that he
lad some business that would make It fncon-
Ienieat for him to 20 on that day, aad said some.
hing about the next day. replied TO him that
could not 20 the next day, and II he could 90
hat afternoon l would 90 with him, but / was
PREVENTED from going By this circumstance.
iOubt since he went ut your solicitation solely
4. had no idea OF anything else; supposed
,e Vas gong az my solicitation; o. course sHow
. pretty distinct IN my mind from the fact that
vas anxious to get Filburn's affidavit; simply
nony, that heard the question asked by one OF
he board OF Major Richards As to whether or not
he Attorney Generals office had given aid in the
he had received none excepting the advice from
ne; since became connected with the case have
been looking pretty carefully after the matter Of
he Ievi6ence, and when / was spoken to en- the
irst day 1t was suggested to me to proceed and
lrrest the man Green; at once wanted to know
where the evidence was upon which he could be
,eld; was not willing that he should be arrested
Until We got the evidence; did not want him
brought here and then be compelled to let him go
gain; wanted first to get the evidence and then
against his arrest until that evidence could be
procured; did not think It was prudent to ar
est man until we were able to hold him.
By Col. Berret: Q. understand you to say
led his arrest2 A. Until that evidence was Sc
ured should not have felt at all safe as q rep
.rrest made, because there had been no informa-
ion given TO me. There may have been in the
Of other persons, but no information
bsSe S 20 me IS upon TIea eOS nave -6e e
iere. had great many intimations, but l
ould not put my hand on the evidence.
Q. No evidence that would identify him as the
'erson who personated EdesF A. No, sir; 1 had
lone. There may have been evidence, but had
lone.
70, OF course not: never would advise the ar
est of q man unless could make probable cause
gsinst him. 1 did not think It
WAS PRUDENT TO DO IT.
BY Mr.. Perry: Q. Didn't you think, when
Jerk Of court swore to him positively that there
Tas more than probable cause? A. II the clerk
admit taken that back afterwards some way or
1her, should have said 50, undoubtedly. But
here was the trouble that we were In in regard
o It.
q. Didn't you think, when you read the report,
hat il was very strange that Green should have
fithout any other oficer Of the Government
moving fit A. So far as communicating any
hing about 1t, they did not know, / presume,
nything about my connection with the case.
'Ou were the only person, 1 believe, who knew 1t
q. 1t was published in the afternoon papers!
|. 1t was published in the SiGr that afternoon,
ut l did not show It to Mr.. Clarvoe. It was
nown throughout the city, believe, at half past
,ur. |
By Colonel Berret: Q. Before the arrest Of |
Ireen by Claryoe. had it been suggested to you |
y q detective officer to make the arrest? A. |
h, no, sir; not at all. You see 1 did not go |
ito the matter until u o'clock Of that day. Then
ne only person to whom communicated the fact |
lat l had been employed by the Government was |
Ir. Perry. The newspapers got hold of it some |
Ow or other, suppose from the Department Of |
ustiee.
Mr.. Perry. It was the text took up there to |
ave you appointed. 1t was the text upon which |
ie appointment was made that this man was ex- |
ected over and when the reporters went up there |
the afternoon they got, doubtless, the official |
,tion.
At this pOiat the board adjourned until to-