The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1875-09-04
CHARLEY ROSS.

oRDEAI-A RIGID AND LONG cRoss-ExAMINA-
TIoN-A DULL ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS KINGS
AND CAPTAIN HEDDENs TESTIMONY.
PHILADELPHIA, Sept 8, 1878
To-days session OF the Court Of Quarter Sessions in
the trial OF William westervelt was almost proGtess
one From ten O'Clock until after three superinend-
walins upon the witness stand undergoing tho
crossexaminaiion Of Mr.. Ford The Superintendenrs
manner was easy and deliberate He impressed every
as being conscientious witness Wesiervelt very
frequently scrubbed notes scraps Of paper,
which no handed to hts counsel These
evidently suggestions which the lawyer made
OF The court excessively crowded all day,
In spite Of the almost uncomfortable heat The jury
looked somewhat refreshed having been allowed 10 go
TO their homes last night for the first time the
beginning OF tho trial
''GrL" MosHER
"G' Mosher, the elder brother Of the dead kldnap-
per, in Court to-day It is said that he will
be called by the District Attorney. II ho does testify
truthfuy his evidence will throw great deal OF light
on tho inside history of this case.
''srlL" PRISONERS
The proposition made by westervelt to Superintendent
walling that he would agree TO 'turn up Douglass
but would not give Mosher away, one Of the sub
ecs taken up during the cross examination. The
ness had said that he hesated agree this
he knew the publication OF Douglass arrest would
frighten of Moshcr and prevent his arrest Mr.. Ford
asked the Superintendent II IL would be necessary
publish such The witness answered that he
would be obliged to take him Immediately before
magistrate.
Dir Ford-Have you no such things as "sti" prs-
oners In New York;
Mr. Walng-No; we had once, but not now.
Mr. Ford-Thcro a "still' prisoner In this city,
know, about the 18th OF April referring to the
OF this prisoner, who laid in jail without arragnment
from that time
Mr.. waling-I recollect holding prisoner twenty
four hours not long ago without sending him before
magistrate, ana was heavily fined for it,
sUrgRINrESDESrs CROSS EXAMINATION.
Below Is tho essential portion of Mr.. Wangs cross
cxamination:-My suspicion was first directed to
Mosher and Douglass in connection with this alb
ducton In tho latter part OF July; IL FIRST
toned to by Captain Hedden spoke TO the Captain
days aftcrward on the subject in consequence of
tho former interview he said officer of his
pected these Of having connection with it;
this at the first Interview; he said he would make
further inquiries and let me know; he didn't know
whether there anything in u or not; asked him
three days aferward whether he had heard any
thing he told me that Mosher and Douglass were
s that oGccr Doyle, of the Thir,
teenth precinct, gave him the Information;
Officer Doyle said he got his information from
old Gil Mosher the brother of Bill Moshcr,
who suspected them of having abducted Charley Ross
those the parties that came to me or two
days after this interview; can't fix the exact time;
can't tell whether it was in July or August directed
the officer to endeavor to locate Mosher and Clark if
possible and find their whereabouts and requested
Moshers assstance-that is, Gil Moshers assistance
did not give Gil Mosher directions to arrest them; he
had power to arrest anybody; he to assist
by endcavorng TO find out their wherenboutsI
he was not TO report to me- but TO Officer Doyle with
whom he was acting; saw him several times suhso-
quently, and requested him to accompany Olccr Doyle
TO Philadelphia and Baltimore searching for these par
ties they aterward visited Camden; requested him,
If possible to procure any of the handwriting of Moshcr
and Douglass Mosher's especially; | requested him
70 accompany party on sieam ,bo launch IN
September but am not positive at least as late the
latter part of September; my attention was first
called to westervelt, think, by Officer Doyle
and Moshcr; they told that Gil had given
wcstervelt letter to William Mosher that Gil had
written requesting an answer where lie, Gil Moshcr
could see his brother William he wished to see him
some business; understood they had handed him
this letter, but am not sure on that point; they told
mo they never received any answer to it, nor heard
reply to IL; Mr. Weservct informed me where Mosher
and Douglass had been living just previous the abuc
ton; he informed me long before the killing; two
more months previous to the killing he told me they
had been living in Philadelphia; IL was a voluntary
statement; under the agreement we had previously
mada that was part of the assistance he to render
me; previous to his telling mo this story ! had
ntimation that no knew where they had been living; he
the only one obtained this information from, but
that was after they had moved from Philadelphia
think my FIRST interview with HIM was after they had
moved from Philadelphia, but he did not give me that
information until long after the first interviews did
not at interview ask HIM where they had lived;
Westorselt Informed me of tho names under which
Mosher and Douglass went in this city; he told tho
name his brother law lived under when he told
they had lived in this city at this time he informed
gave this information of where they had lived,
under what names they went and where they had
stabbed the horse and wagon time before the kill
ing; it the first information of these things that
had whether It the first the police Of this city had
don't know; he agreed at the third or fourth inter
view to furnish me with information to assist inc in
arrcsting Mosher and Douglass; IL part Of that
agreement that he should arrest them; he give
such information as he could he didn't desire to be
known; IN his own manner he TO let
know what he learned and give me what inlorma-
ton he could as to their whereabouts which
would assist us in having them arrested; I
depending In measure to got information from
him. but not entirely had other parties looking for
information; knew where he lived; had his house
watched and he knew II, and he told me il of
use they wouldn't come there; that not the timo
when he said that If suspected him or having him
watched he would have nothing to do with it, that
another occasion and had nothing to do with his house,
withdrew the watch after considerable time of
watching; they wouldn't come there II they knew the
house was watched withdrew the watch because
knew II was no use Westervelt told me that they knew
his house watched and they wouldn't come there;
knew positively Of the whereabouts of Mosher
and Douglass after the abduction of this child tho first
that heard after the abduction of the child OF their
rendezvous that there place in New York city
where Mosher and Douglass had met; think it the
9th of October made efforts to arrest them there and
the reason, suppose, that had the place watched,
and Weservelt accused me of having watched him, and
l withdrew the watch was satisfied that Westcrvclt
and they had met there; had officers looking
for them at that time, and westervelt
then cndeavoring TO find the where
abouts of the child, instead of the immediate
pursuit OF the two men; he promised me to do that he
came to me and told me that he would not give away
Mosher but that he would give Douglass, prior to
this time; said Every WE'LL wait few days. about
week after that ! saw him and told him that would
consent to take Douglass without the other party If he
could give me Information where to get him; he told
at all the times that he would have TO wait for them
to communicate with him he TO meet with Douglass,
and see II he could meet him at some future time and
give information OF IL; at that time told him to
wait because wanted TO get both, and when he said
he would get Douglass wanted to think OF IL did
know that II could get one could get both; from his
Information did not know that they went in pairs; he
said Douglass gave him inlormation and that B
wouldn't show up when they came TO the city; If one
arrested and published 1t would interfere with the
arrest OF others
CHARLES IT,. sTEINBERGER
Charles ii. Stcnbergcr dcposcd that he kept n beer
saloon at No. "a Mott street, New York, whittier he
had removed from No. II about the middle Of June,
1879 he had known Westervelt for three yenr., he