New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-04-07

SANBORN'S STATEMENTS UNDER OATH.
HIS IMMENSE PROFITs-NEGoTIATIoNs WITH Mr..
BOUTWELL, AND THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT
MONEY PAID BY sANBoRN TO AID GEN. BUTLER
IN The MASSACHUSETTS GUBERNATORIM CAM
PMGN-How THE LISTS OF RAILROADS WERE
MADE.
WASHINGTON, April 6.-The Committee on
Ways aud Means had another meeting this morning
the sanborn matter. Mr.. Sanborn himself was pres
en attended by his counsel, Mr. Woodbridge OF Yer
mont. under whose advice he declined TO put in the
written statement which he prepared some time ago.
He submitted himself, however, for examination, and
SWORD and questioned by the various members of
the Committee.
Mr. Foster OF Ohio the first TO question him. To
hum Mr.. sanborn stated that when he to Wash
Ington some weeks he did not register under
name at his hotel, but under assumed name.
This was habit which he had acquired his long bust
ness as a detective for the Adams Express Company,
and special agent of the Treasury Department He
had received under his contract, between $4,000 and
s2llOOO
Mr. FOster-As net profit
Mr. ssnborn-Oh,
MI Foster-How much did you pay to other persons
MI AUTOMATICALLY about $4,000.
MI Foster-That leaves you about S5OOlOi
MI Sanborn-Yes but l am engaged to pay more. /
have still employed whom 1 shall have 10 pay up
to the time they notified to work.
Mr. Foster-Fof what purpose have you paid this
money!
Mr. sanbcrn-For information for working up cases.
Mr. Foster-How much have you paid for counsel
fees
Mr. sanborn-From $4,000 to 100000 have paid some
of 1t TO Mr. Prescott Boston lawyer, and have paid
named Morrison $4,000, particularly for European
matters.
Mr.. Foster-Have you paid money to any Internal
Revenue Oficerf
Mr.. ssnborn-I have not.
Mr.. Foster-Have you paid nothing to Special Agent
Harland Of New-EnglaHdl
Mr.. sanbornNo, Sir; Not a cent for that purpose,
ROW THE CONTRACTS WERE OBTAINED
Mr.. FOser-To whom did you apply for your contracts
Mr.. sanborn-To Mr.. Boutwell,. L came here two or
three times and saw him. We had a general talk about
It, He said g" you VIII not collect much but If
ANYBODY collect anything, you can"
Mr.. FOster-You we're acquainted with Mr.. Boutwell,
MI sanborn-Yes.
Mr. Foster-Was your entire arrangement made with
Mr.. Boutwell,
Nj sanbOrn-Yes.
MI Foster-And the whole matter was discussed with
hint
Mr.. sanborn-Yes.
Mr.. Foster-And the mode of operations
Mr.. SanbOrn-Yes, somewhat; think lie referred the
matter TO the Solicitor.
Mr.. Foster-Was anything said In the conversations
about the connection OF the Internal Revenue Bureau
with the matteri
Mr.. Sanborn-Nothing at ALL
Mr.. Foster-How did you obtain the addt ons to your
contract
Mr.. sanborn-When got the necessary information
20 enable me to make the contract went 10 him (Mr
Boutwell, but he had gone 10 Boston; 1 then SAW Mr.
Richardson, who Acting Secretary and asked him
II he had any objection 10 making this arrangement or
whether should wait for Mr.. Boutwell's return he
said that he would sign 1t.
Mr.. Foster-Did you have o full conversation with
Mr. Richardson about it.
Mr.. sanborn-Not particularly. He seemed to know
about tt thought so. did not know how be knew it,
had said nothing before him it, but he seemed
TO understand that was to have the contract.
Mr.. Foster-And to understand the termsi
Mr. sanborn-Yes; but they were to be the same as
agreed TO 10 contracts with other persons.
Mr.. Foster-Did he know when he was signing the
contract that he sgningit
Mr.. saDborn-l nave doubt about Il.
Mr.. Foster-Dd 1t not come 10 him as mere routine
business, and did he not sign it without knowingiti
Mr.. Sanborn-I should say not do not know what
they cah routine business
Mr. Foster-You think he had full knowlede re OF H.
and knew what he was signingi
Mr. sanborn-I have no doubt about u.
Mr. Foster-The additions to the contract were made
after Mr. Boutwell, went out Of Office
Mr.. sanborn-Yes.
Mr. Foster-Tell us about them; what particular
knowledge did Mr.. Richardson have OF themi