The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1874-08-18
yours that you would not have see the light at

yours that you would not nave see the lght al
| this hour?
! A. Not to nat L am aware of.
| O. Have you any doubte
A. have none.
/ q. Do you call upon him to produce all he has
| and tell all he knows?
| q. do. ! do.
| Mr.. Cleveland Have you reason in light of
the recent disclosures tod0ubt his fidelity 10 you
during those four yearsr
| A. The impression made by him during the
four years OF friendship and fidelity was so
| strong that my present surprise and indignation
divided consciousness that was in respect TO
ELIZABETH Tilton, that she was a saint and tho
the CHIEF of sinners, and Moultons hold upon
my confidence was so great that all that has
| come out now affects me as a dream.
Is7a' YOU speak OF the possibiiity of r1inoas de-
Tense of yOu breaking out. How could there be
| be any ruin us defense of you?
| a. a defense of me conducted by ignorant peo-
pie, knowing nothing OF the facts, and cOinpell-
ing this whole Avalanche of wind to descend
upon the community might have been ruinous.
| / think now as then fel:.
q. IL would then be injuriouss
| A. Where you would say injurious, would
say ruinous.
q. You speak of remorse, fear and despair.
| A. suppose felt them all. Whether was
justified i'm so feeling is a question. When
lived in indianapolis, there was an old lawyer
named Calvin Fletcher. a New England man of
/ large brain. He was a Methodist and q christian
man. He took peculiar fancy to me, and he
used to come to see me often, when was q
lie would make many admirable suggestions,
one of which was that he never admitted any,
body. was to blame except the party who ten
responsible for having everybody do right by
me- and If they do not do right il is because do
ing during your life do you take blame upon
yourself and don't you be scolding your church
sa ,sas sa%nG S
into my heart and became spring of influence
from that day to this. II my prayer meetings
If the people do not come to church
lam the one to blame for their not coming. II
/ hfnu CoOy nU IN m " in m nj
in myself. l have foreseen quarrels in the
church. If had left them alone they would
vice. and doing my own duty, have no diff
Guilty in my church.
@. An anonymous letter to the committee
ton in your philosophy which would enable
you TO say, al had no wrong conduct or relations
nat sh WI ong h
What are your ideas on this subject?
A. am not versed in the philosophy and cas-
uistry offree love. L stand on the New England
doctrine, in which was brought up, that 1T Is
best for man to have one wife, and that he stay
by her. and that he do not meddle with his
neighbors' wives. abhor every manifestation
of free love doctrine that we seen In theory, and
| abhor every advocate of free love doctrine that
have known.
@. Did you ever know anybody who took hold
Oft seriously who was not ruined by it?
A. No sir. provided they were susceptible of
ruin. have had women write 10 me that If
didn't send them ten dollars they were ruined.
4 and wrote in reply that they were ruined be-
@. You speak about having sent Mrs. Tlton
copy of yonr book. Was that an act of cour-
A. No. 1 gave Them out to friends. When
one book would come out wOnld give copy TO
a friend, and SO on. have not been a great
distributor OF my own books, only in cases
where it would be real pleasure, and from an
@. Are you clear In your recollection that you
never met the Woodnulls more than three
) A. am perfectly clear. that is, to speak to
them.
Q. State the times and places
A.On one occasion was walking with Moulton
in the general direction of TlltOn'S house, when
at first hesitated, and he said: "Come in and
Just see her." said: "Nery WELL" went in and
after some conversation down in the parlors.
| went up stairs into this famous boudoir room,
where she sat waiting, and like spider TO NY,
she rushed TO me on my entrance aud reacned
out both her hands with the utmost earnest
ness, aud said how rejoiced she was TO see me.
talked with her about five minutes and then
went down stairs. My second interview with
her was on one occasion, when 1 had been
with some or 81 gentlemen zen to LOOK coI;
& Robinson. We were on a steamer that
had been chartered for the occasion, and when
ioWn.s He never told me there was i1 1o be anV
company. When l came there l learned that
there was to be something in New fork in the
literary ladies present, among whom was Mrs
Woodhu l. L was placed at the head OF the
Mrs. Woodhnli was next to me. or else she was was
first and was next-1 don't remember which
| AT the table Sne scarcely Qelgned 10 speak 10
me. 1 addressed a few words to her for polite
ness sake during dinner, but there was ne
last interview was at Moulton's house She had
addressed TO me threatening letter, saying
that she wSn'd open All the scandal II didn,
MOulton advised that instead OF answering he.
letter, should see her and say without wit.
! her her great subject. 1t was in type and my
; policy was to let her talk and say little which
beese so sns and so ana said AnUM nosOg
and so oa, from point 70 point
until ! said at last; MRS. " WSodhnil, IL don, ION,
? thoroughly. AS far as do understand them,
do not bel eve In them, and though am in
do -i it for you, because am not in sympathy
O. Has Mrs. Wo dhull any letters of yours in
: he pos>ession3
A. rwo, suppose, unless she has sold them.
3 A. She enclosed a letter TO me with one from
| my sister, Mrs. Isabella Hooker, inviting me ~
!. be pre- e1t at a suffrage convention at Washing
ton. To that letter replied briefly IN the nsga-
!, tive. but made few statements In regard to my
ideas OF women voting. The other letter was
, just before her scandalous publication. sns
wrote to me whining letter, say
$ had brought on her such odium
that she could not procure lodgings in New
> iilsey House, think, and asking me in a very
,ignificant way 10 interpose my influence oi
some other relief for her. To that letter rep lee
very hyiefy, saying tnat regretted it when any
0 bod, Suffered persecution for the advocacy o
r their sincere views, but that must decline in
o reference.
: Mr.. Clafiin. These the two letters, tne sig
; natures OF which she showed TO Bowen and my
}. self. 1t ported that by these letters yoI
were 10 b.. sunk 1900 fathoms deep. 1 tolC
2 Bowen before went there that knew of tn
2 existence of the letters and that was all the,
y contained Bowen made a journey clear down
9 To Connecticut on purpose TO go up there.
h Mr.. Winslow. Did you ever meet her a
: riltons?
IS The first time I ever saw her was a
= Tiltons.
l. q. Did you ever meet her there any othe
q time?
= A. Not that recall. If sew her am per
e fectly sure 1 would know it. remember he
t we'll, on account of the tran cepdent description
Is had heard OF her. and because of Mrs. Hooker
J. fee ings toward her. Mrs. Hooker regarded ne
: as Joan of Arc would a VISION OF the Virgil