The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-02-25

you may have the satisfaction OF ieeling at
the end that you have done everything which a
cal economy was justified in doing, and vet you
may have TO account Tor the loss OF millions OF
sary TO make these lew remarks 10 Won because
the subject OF India has not vet been prominently
5rGugnt 1ofward during The general election and
engross. the minds Of the English people. We
have been distracted during the last two or three
weeks oy an announcement OF specula.i i've sur
Plus which is to accrue, alter waiting not incon-
siderable time but when heard these discussions
between different classes and parties in thus
country, TO how they were to div de the surpius
now It was TO be apportioned how the plunder
was to be shared, could not help thinking Inat
there were circumstances gong on in this
great Empire which, perhaps, ought to make us
pause In our schemes OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT and divis-
plus OF much more powerful character than our
own comparatively miserable interest. Now gen.
tlemen, there is another source OF anxiety to any
party who may govern this country at the present
moment, and that Is the state OF Ireland. would
say but lew words on It, but could not meet
you here to-day and be entirely silent upon the
subject. The great political excitement OF the last
tive years, occasoned by the existing Ministry,
(''Hear, hearty They began with great measures,
they came IN to pass great measures tor ireland,
and they did pass great measures. Whatever YOU
may think Of their merits, all viii agree that they
were large in their dimensions. NLaus nter.) The
cause alleged for these measures was the pacifca-
ton aud the tranquiilization OF Ireland. think
am not mlsstatlng the case when say that vast
numbers Of tire population Of this country agreed
10 tHtSc HcdsuIcS, uOuSu Lnelr principle was
one which they would not otherwise have
approved, because they believed that the pacifca-
ton and tfanquiliization of Ireland would
be accomplished and achieved. Now. in the first
place, must impress upon yon what impressed
upon large body Of my constituents in another
II Ireland Is now tranquil 1t is not In consequence
OF those measures, but 1t is In consequence OF
ing ruled by coercve legislation OF the most severe
ahd of the most stringent kind. (Cries of s.No,
no."l l am not here in any way wishing to enter
into the merits OF the question whether those Sc
"A a rtnht nd
sary, or the reverse. We have neither time nor Is
II expedient, that we shouldlenter into the discus
no doubt whatever that the tranquility of Ireland
has been occasioned and Is dependent upon the
s az WHAT ySs
Ii 1t a0es notg Why does that legislation
prevail C"Hear!' and laughter.J why should
almost the whole OF ireland be subject to
that severe and stringent legislation II 1t is not
necessary, and n IL otherwise would be tranquil
Now, called IT severe and stringent Legislation,
because l can find In no c0ercive legislation acts
ever passed IN Ireland provisions OF SO severe
as l mentioned the other day, that no person can
take a Walk in the evening without being liable to
that at any time IN Ireland the police may enter
your house, examine your papers to whether
writing that they find in your house with some
anonymous threatening letter that has been sent
to third person don't say that L. right or nee
the question; but say that II the legislation OF the
government has produced tranquility in Ireland,
impossible to escape from that dilemma In Ire
land, ii man writes an article in newspaper,
and it onends the government, ne has warning
suppressed. 1t may be perfectly necessary, and
the state Of Ireland may require 1t, but then, l
say the difficulty Is occasiOned by
DEsP0ILIN0 THE IRISH CHURCH
and the conascaton OF the rights OF the Irish pro-
and what dislike IN the state Of Ireland is this~I
see the general election has brought out the
temper OF the population. ! see IN the South few
candidates reelected unless they pledge themselves
to what look upon as ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF the
Kingdom. In the North, again, see gentlemen
with honor to themselves and their country dis.
missed from the service Of which they were SO
proud because they viii not pledge themselves to
some principles OF law or some change OF the law
connected with the land, which, after all, is in
fact questioning OF the very principles OF private
dls0rder III Ireland? am not speaking as party
man upon the subject. Indeed, the party TO which
am IN a ana Tm0 sappGr tne
in this election than my own friends. / cannot
but think that 1t Is q bad thing when you find
a number OF men returned to Parliament on
the part OF Ireland pledged to dismember
the Kingdom, and in another part men returned
who We're pledged to question the very principle
OF property. What Is all this but violence and
spOliatlon? Why, believe that the country has
been debauched by legislation and the policy OF
and excited state OF public senti-
ment has been brought about, the consequences
because 1t discOurages Investments, and dlscour-
ages all those conditions and circumstances
and which, no doubt, will enfeebe the power Of
che general government OF the United Kingdom
think that the state OF India and OF Ireland Is such
as to cause great anxiety in the public mind.
Well. gentlemen, speak on these subjects to-day
to you as my constituents, not wishing to offer
manifesto, but merely make these remarks,
which l am bound to make, to ny con.
wnsn meet esoS 0 aa aad rSese
is one matter which l think l ought to notice,
from the many communications which ! have
part of the cOuntrythat upon the subject OF ma
tional education. tCheers.) The existing govern.
mas 6oh upon the subject Of nome t. rue ana
ful ana trying general election, receded from the
position which they took up in the House OF Com.
mons. l''Hear, hearty They have held out to the
home rulers hopes for an arrangement by which
they might fulfil their Wishes and they held out TO
the secularists in England the hope OF al arrange.
We should have distinct and clear views upon these
topics. will not dwell Tor the moment upon the
ambiguous offer made to the home rulers oil Ire
land by the present government, for this reason
the home rulers win not accept the government
must say ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS they intend
by home rule, which is to have their own Parlla.
ment in Dublin, and as for those weak and tlmld
offers OF the government, they have entirely re-
pudiated them. and have thrown out at the
polls every supporter OF the government who ad-
vocated them (cheersl-that they might in some
degree, without departing from their own prin.
ciples, meet the views OF the secusrsts In educa-
tion IT appears TO me more dangerous, though 1t
il quite as unsatisfactory and ambiguous as the
suggestions that they have made to the home
rulers (Cheers.) Nothing can be more vague
than their suggestions, and 1t seems to me- gentle.
men, that as the general election was at hand, 1t
would have been well for the government to be
explicit upon them. We have been told by sew.
eral Ministers on the hastings that they do not
despair Of making an offer to the sup.
porters Of secular education which win
remove all objections that, for instance, are
felt by those in favor OF religious education,
and also all the objections which are felt by
those in favor OF secular education, TO
what Is called the twenty-1fth clause. / am
always ready, Ii there is a conscientious objection
raised by any class OF my conntrymen to any law
which exists, fairiy TO consider 1t; but you may
rely upon that upon this matter there can be no
compromise offered (Cheers.) II you can give up
the position which you have taken, and which the
government has always sustained, you must admit
the claims OF the party who seek to establish
secular education. (Cheers.) The twenty-ftth
clause may be called the symbol OF the question.
Those that in favor OF the twenty fifth clause
are in favor Of religious education. To those who
are not in favor OF secular education there Is no
middle course, and therefore, counsel all those
who are electing members Of Parliament, for there