New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-04-06


Mr. McHARDsoN-That is the only instance have no
but DO not recollcct.
FURTHER DISCLAIMERS RESTRICTING sAsBoRN.
Nj WooD-lOw H. it that in the execution OF the San
born contracts, matters appear TO have come more
especially through the Secret Service Diyisionl
Mr. RcHARDsoN-I DO not know that they did; they
went into the Solicitors Office
Mr. WooD-The assistants of Mr.. sanbcrn, with whom
he made subcOntracis have exhibited to letters OF
authority enanatng from the secret scrvce Dlyflon
anu signed by Alr. Bln1cd.
Mr. KIcHAEDsOS-I cannot tell you how that was.
NJ n no0nm You. have no knowledge Of 1T
Mr.. WooD-We have letter which you sent the
sgnatc EVIL your opinion as 10 the pr0prny OF Iho
officers.
MI RIcHARpsos-Yes.
Nj; MooD-fou consider that the Secretary himself
Mr. RCHABnsoN-I think We eoald use something OF
Nj WooD-what recommendation have you to make
10 thls committee TO the necessity OF reform IN your
department to enable you to transact your busnessi
nj. LchARDsoS-Thls is very old system, and
tary OF the Treasury has to take the rosponsiby and
upon his subordinaes they 90 not Set eat
can make the system any better.
MI MI P P0,IIRnD,d YOU know MI sanbOrnf
MI HosfER-Did you know anything abOut hint
mr. idChAkDsoS-NO, Sir; could MT tell who lie was
of making contract with him. or what that contract
ouent 10 oe OF what he proposed to do under It, was
twice he alluded his being able collect great deal
GI nIney lop the Government and rather laughed at
vlous contracts that dId not believe any money would
be collected.
PAYING $4,000 WITHOUT KNOWING IT.
MI BEcK-Then suppose the long and short OF it is
that, owing to the fact that other subordinate officers
OF the department have things in charge and that
your attention called by them to the matters
under the sanborn contracts, they went without any
knowledge on your partl
MT RcHARDsoS-They went on in the usual course OF
Mr.. BECK.Aud no examination Of the details wac
made by youi
Mr.. Neutrality-suspicious. in the world.
MI. WALDRoN-was the Commissioner Of Internal Rev
enue consulted when these contracts were madef
Mr. RcHARDsoN-I cannot tell you; did not make
these contracts.
Mr. wALDRoN-was your attention called last January
10 letter sent 10 the Secretary OF the Treasury IN regard
10 tue delaware, Lackawanna ana western railroad
Companyl
Mr.. wALDRoSNThe letter vas addressed to You, and
there IL no reference on it.
Mr.. RfCHARDLoN-I never the letter, and do not
| know what 10 IL.
Mr. WALDRoN-On the goth OF January 1874 You signed
an order tho Treasury OF the United States in favor
OF John d. sanhOrn for O00 being half the amount OF
the tax collected from the Delaware Lackawanna and
western Railroad Company.
Mr.. RIcHARDsOS-I signed IL in the regular course of
business came up in the regular course OF business
approved by the subordinate officer whose duty II was
| to attend TO that business.
Mr.. wALDRoS-Are we to understand that your per
sonal attention was not called 10 the details at all
Mr.. RTCHARDsoN-It was not called all to the de-
tn adj
70 Tho Serratarv ny vb con, ny viii sec hou, Inn,
possbe il is for him 70 attend 10 details only see the
Me- qua, are stnt 10 ne ior iny m at1en'o a.
the 9ai of Iannar 80, , , aItSr tpn respni"iion
| OF investigation was passed by the il0usei
MI: RIchAhDsoN-l suppose so checks constantly MY
INTO an the papers mat come before me- l sysem Oh
~ no o1ssu Win 'ne oik"n'Non Vi 'H'
tter ch atraI, 81 % 6 ose ~ ro at 20 Mr. RAM
| field as SolicitOri
ury without coming TO me- sometimes the chief clerk
Endorses the reference and sometimes the Assistant sec
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uoh OF lhese contracts mas peeh u I"A' Ion INC an
ternal Revenue Bureau 'he coecIon Va taAe9 "nien
| that Bureau was in process Of collectingi
| Mr. Rrcu,RpsoS-You probably know better about
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that than DO never nave lOoked INTO II. beiore Ins
matter came up here u was TOT ~
efaoh ana sce gUd tn sion onerst6ns nnaer in or
DER tt y0n ,, NAY uavo an nld repea ina la
nav pe9H nont inc th oontracrs IA turn Tho
anu neh y, !, Mouih ao , ,,,ar NJ n,",,lass YUM ~
Mr. RoBTRIs~Do YOU regard the law as mandatory in
| any senseI
"i ny R,Su.pnsoxNo Sir. only that Conoress nassed
MS law tnr a certain nIrnose and In the
that wUr we u t t ~. Du 1s!p
10 i cn, n,il ~ ,ha 'u w "' '"A'
VIII c9inp,an oi n nnt'' 30 ana ,., ,,ioo q, ,,o,r
MT RoBEhIs-but that u one Vi the peh'''Ies VI you
position. oDso,, ,oro no, oo,,,or. ., conoross
dr. klCHAkDsOF-' nave haI mem9els Oh noLgr &c
e0mpiah because We u'u ho' ""Ao cohE"''' uuuei VI"
oia Jaw. -s MI. 800. -. 30, ,,. NTH ,,o,r i,,o
nj, h9BLhIsmDa you nTt leeh 'ha., MI yVu hd
ment OF inc pfopIiey oi su"m sss h you n 40
abundant power 10 cancer eoh'racs "non "uc' VI "
refuse 10 MAKE thenh -. ~. ,,,. .t,,
M. hchAhDsoN-i consluci 'na' nave 'u'''""'""'
canceieu mem. a., $500. -. =, A,
MT. hobERIs-Bnt yon had the same power al the
| tmei
Mr.. RICHARDsoN-I did 80 now only because the sub
ject had assumed importance whlch dld not know that
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