The New York herald., 1874-10-29
nave playsa most important part IN the recent

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defeat OF DR.. Seymour, the Bshop-elect OF Illinois.
1t has been generally understood that his influence
over the Convention was largely instrumental In
enectipg DR.. Seymour's defeat. DR.. Seymour II
at present the Acting Dean OF the Seminary. and
has for . long time been on bad terms with his
predecessor, DIR. Forbes Some years ago DR..
Seymour, who was already member OF the Fac
uJ, published pamphlet, In which he charged
the then Dean with an improper assumption oi
pomp. and for this publication DR.. Seymour was
openly censured by the Faculty. 1t is, therefore.
easy to understand that the two reverend gentle.
men are not the best OF friends. In order. how.
ever, to give the Rev. Dr. Forbes an opportunity
to explain accurately the part he had taken In the
recent action OF the Convention. resulting in the
defeat Of DR.. Seymour, Q HERALD representative
called upon him at his elegant though modest,
residence East Flfty-ourth street, where the
ex-Dean OF the seminary now lives In complete re-
tirement.
Dr. Forbes ID gentleman whose appearance
commands respect His Thought nj lace his high
forehead shaded by sllvery hair, and his mud and
kindly manner betoken at. once the thorough
student ana Clergyman. DIR. Forbes, alter some
slight hesitation, declared himself ready to give
all the Information he possessed on the subject.
ais il true Doctor, tnat you nave been lnstru-
mental IN procuring DR.. Seymoar's deieatY''
plea Il have not crossed the street to speak to
any one on the subject ol DR.. SeYmour's connrma-
ent Dn at e. the Copyentlon. except oace and never
introduced the SUBJECT to any one. However.
when some OF the bishops a, anu iay deputies came
were derogatory to Dr. Seymour's standing, 1, as
. clergyman, whose hope u Iva was 70 promote the
to tell them the truth, and did,"
.'And what were the lacts, Doctor, II may In
quires"
80, II would take me hours 10 go into these de-
caTges aS can one o the the greatest 70 Dr.
seymour's confirmation as bishop Was ielt 70 DO
his Intimate connecson Win extreme ri.uaIists.
men, mas associated With them and mas been their
constant apoOslst and supporter. Another great
objection reelected more upon MS personal charac-
ter He is not frank, nor Is he consls lent In MS
statements in reference TO these charges and to
notice OF the Convention. That Is very grave
fault, as everybody win admit The whole truth.
in nutshell IS simply this: the certificate which
the house ol Clerical and Lay Deputies has to give
to bsh0p-elect IN confirming hun Is that taey
believe nun not 20 pe cSa 10 any
and they were unable TO give MIN thus certlncate.
as rumors OF such Character aid exist"
rumors ~
..Wel, the burden OF proof rests upon the nomi-
business to prove that these rnlnOrs are true but
1t is ms duty to dlspr0ve them II he can This has
Horace Binney. the celebrated Pennsylvania liw-
yer made this doctrine widely known IN the we'll
known case oil the Rev. DR.. Hawks.n
THE CHARGES AGAINST DIR. SEYMOUR
"Then the Convention was mainly innu-nced IN
its action Dy rum0rH ~
"Well, there were great many Things which
Influenced the convention. Bishop Cox, OF West
ern New YORK, wrote me letter year ago, which
good deal ol effect. The substance OF the letter In
that Dr. seymour had allowed an extreme rltualist
to come to the seminary aud establish intimate
relations with the students, when would only oe
accompanied by the most dangerous results.
where they obtained a copy oil It,"
ait mas been stated that DR.. Seymour mas never
even worn the eucharisiic vestment ~
stnh fho IQpf nat N a
any certain garment Is OF no slgnlncance what
ever. He might lor all tnat hoid doctrines sub
stantialy borrowed rom the Roman Church. Now
you know, and everybody knows. tnat this aping
Ol the Church Of Rome is miserable iarce. There
are many Things IN he CnuIcn OF Rome which the
rltuaists initiate, although they stand there upon
u iuOtinQ utterly dnerent from any they can
ana | doctrines &C M q the Roman Church are an organic
whole; there Is consistency and c0ngruity IN
them when, OF course. Is LACKING when taey are
properly belong. 1t Is poor imitation, this So
called RI uallsn, this slavish aplng Of tue Roman
Church, winch heartily despse.n
.'Wnat do you consider r,lualistic practicess"
THE FORBIDDRN FRUITS.
swell generally. whatever lends towards en-
bodylng the doctrines and symbols OF the Church OF
Rome IN ours, sucn as the Eucharlstic alteration,
wearing Of cnasuDle and parti-coored stoies,
Invocation OF saints, auricular confession. prayer
for the dead, &c. It Is quite probable that Dr.
has not adopted any Of these pracnces, out his
conduct night, nevertheless, unht HIM LOT the
q one %e .s
I
| pleaded Tor o young clergyman VINO preached
sermon the eucharist ut,erlng doctrine
when was exactly that Ut the Roman Church,
"Does Dr.. Seymour stand any chance OF being
reelected oy the Illinois Episcoparansy''
"On, no, and even II he were, 1t Is not at all
likely that he would be confirmed Oy majority OF
the standing Committees N every diocese and OF
the House oi Bishops Besides, 40 not tnink tnat
any attempt will be made IN Ilinois to re-elect
him. Ine first effect OF the rejection OF DR.. Sey-
mour will undoubtedly be DISAPPOINTMENT ana
irritation: but when the Episcopal people OF ILL.,
nots obtain the Information about him which tho
decision and 60 TO work to select better candi-
date iOr BsnOp.n
HOW Mn. SEYMOUR WAS SELECTED.
'There Is no doubt about DR.. seymour being the
free choice of the Illinois dioceser"
"No, was LOd that they first wanted to RetDr.
De Koven. OF WISCONSIN,, who is well known
high lurch man. As they found out that II would
be impossible to elect him In the Convention owing
to his well known ritualIsic doctrines, they took
Seymour, whom they regarded a5 an equally out
spoken high church man, who, however. had not
yet committed himself as openly as Dr. DE KOven,
aud mighr, therefore, be elected. others, was
tod, were asked to help IN pushing through
tanned BY plausible representation that
he was no ritual1st at all, but good moderate
church man. You see BisnoD Whtehouse, OF Ih-
nOis was decided nigh church man, and hence
It Is no wonder that the Epscopal church In ILL
nols has still decided tinge OF rttualism."
"What will ne the probable effect OF Dr.. Sey-
mours deleat2n
at will be q salutary warning to all extreme
high church men, showing, as IT does, that the
In every shape. l am also glad tnat the canon on
rituaiism which lOrDds the burning OF incense &C..
was adopted on Tuesday by the Convention"
With TINS the interview closed.
ST. STEPHENS OHUhCH FAIR