National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-18

lection, no.
Q. DID he say that he had seen them, o.
either OF them, or had any interview with them,
OF either Of themi A. Mr.. Nickerson was
resident Of the District, and presume that
tbey were cooperating togethe- In some way
N regard to this curing process.
Y. The question asked you was, did he sar
that he had seen them, or either ofthemi A. 1
cannot answer that question.
Q. Do you remember whether he did or noti
A. do not remember whether he did or not.
Being resident Of the District, OF course, citi-
Gems saw each other offen. ! could not say a.
70 that.
10. When you went 50 far as to write here,
for &c must have been very soon after seeing
Nickerson, In terms 50 expressive, that you
were offered This very powerful influence, did
you mean dmply that Mr.. Nickerson had
spoken to you that there were such persons as
Page and Dent in this District who were per-
sons OF influence heref 10 that all A. have
no doubt used the words that were expressed
to me, or In substance that-that Il was very
powerful influence.
Q. But you also use much more distinct
language, that the influence was offered to you.
mat Is very express and plain declaration
that this influence was offered 10 youi A. Mr..
niekerson was as DESTROYS as / was.
Inaf Is not the question, sir. A. am
coming to the point s7
Q. Well, sir, 60 on in your own way. A.
MI. Nickerson was equally DESTROYS with my
sell 10 have these contracts obtained here In
order that his ironizing process might be used;
that Is they were partners in this process IN
soma way; there were some relations existing
In regard 20 this ironizng process, so that he
felt very confident that be could use that
infuence..-
\ o. Then he did not state why he thought be
could control that influence; b that what
understand you to sayi A. I think he stated
that they were partnefs'o Of his In this process;
some Of the Dents, or Page, or somebody, Yves
interested with him In this process.
: O. They we've interested with him In the
Samuels proeessf A, I think so; that Is the
best Of my recollection.
Q. So that he was authorized TO speak for
the vholel A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, which did he say were interested,
and how interested, in the Samuel processl A.
o, that cannot say, sir. 49, 90
Q. Had DeGolyer Mcclellan any assign
ment or conveyance Of the right TO use this
Ssmuels processi A. That do not know;
believe they had with Mr.. Nickerson.
@. Did they acquire that right before this in
terview that you had with Mr.. Nickerson here
In this cityi A. Certainly; that understanding
was had between DeGolyer & Mcclellan and
Mr.. Nickerson going back, before my contract
with DeGolyer and Mcclellan, as understand.
Q. Because DeGolyer & MeClellnn could not
lay their DeGolyer pavement No. 2 without
Thai prOceeS3 a. les, SIT.
= Q. So that they had acquired the right to
use that process before they made that con-
tract with you in Chicagoi A. They so indf-
Gated to me; that there would be no trouble
about the Samusls process.
o. There was no necessity, then, that they
should obtain any further license or leave or
make any further bargain with Nickerson; they
further contract with hint A. That was SO
indicated to me,
o. So you supposed that to bel A. Yes, sir.
Q. That being the case, they having acquired
the right to use the samuels process, Of which
Nickerson was the representative, how was
Nickerson interested that DeGolyer & MeClel-
Ian should obtain q contract in this city,
!. Q. Q, yes, for an payements they should lays
. q. Did Page & Dent, or either of them, re-
ceiye. any compensation for any services In this
businessf A. Not that know Of.
O.. Was any compensation ever promised
either Of theml A. Not at all, 70 my knowl-
edge.
either Of them on the subject A. / had an in
tervicw subsequently, with Mr.. Page, but 1t was
after the death OF Mr.. Huntington.
O. Did he then make claim that they were
entitled TO something & Denti A. Not
at all, under this declaration Of Mr. Niekerson's,
that as still subsequent matter.
@. Did he claim that he was entitled to any
thing from you, or from DsGolyer & Mccleiiani
A. No, dr.
o. Not at ain A., Not that know of. am
not Interested In the details Of The paving mat
ters. My business was to get contracts, and
DeGolyer & Mcclellan were to MI them.
@. Then you left about February 8, after
writing that letter-the same evening, infer
from the letter-for New York. When did you
return herel A. think returned-I cannot
,ofl in fov darra
Q. Did you write to Huntington from New
York; A. Very likely did, for was ex-
tremely anxious to get this business moving.
Q. Have you any copy of any letter written
from therei A. have copy Of no letter.
Q. You returned, then, here in few days.
Whom did you see after you got herei A.
saw Mr.. Huntington again.
O. What took place them A. Well, il Is
extremely difficult for me to say that.
Q. Did Mr.. Huntington ever reply to The let
ter In writing-this letter which you wrote to
him on the Sth of February, from the Metro
politan HOTEL A. cannot BE sure of that.
think I may have got letter at the Saint
Nicholas, New York.
O. You requested him to fuse mai or tele-
Q, aph freely to Saint Nicholas, New YorkP'
A. l think he may have acknowledged the re-
ceipt Of this letter, and probably did, at the
Saint Nicholas Hotel.
@. Have you his letter. A. have not.
Q. Where Is it, if you did write onel A.
do not know where 1t is, sir. / presume it is
destroyed.
o. In that letter, II he did write one, did he
say anything about this influence. If he wrote
to you In reply to this letter, did he say any
thing about this influence of which you spoke
In your letter TO himi A. Well, I cannot re-
member the contents Of that letter. think it
was an acknowledgment Of the receipt of my
own letter. He knew would be back in
| III l.. boz kfrs,a In, frtrr
three days. "
Q. Go back little, now, and let me ask you
why did you designate the influence Of Page s.
Dent as very powerful influence, repeating
that expressioni A. wish to state here that
do not know that It was Page q Dent. Il
might have been Dent alone. In mixing the
names am not quite sure. IL may have been
Page alone, or Dent alone.
8. You say: 81 am offered very strong and
powerful Interests very strong, very power
full" Why did you use those words express
siye of 80 muchl Why did you use terms so
very strong and so expressive In regard to Mr..
Denti A. / have no doubt but what repeated
the words of Mr.. Nickerson.
O. You took, then, Nickerson's Judgment
that Mr.. Dent was the man who had this pow
erful influenced A. Yes, SIR; ] have no doubt
did, because I did not know who they were.
O. Now, you got back from New York, and
YOU met Mr.. Huntington again, which VIII
make the fffh interview with Huntington.
What took place them A. Well, I think about
that time submitted to him some figures.
O. As to whati A TO his compensation for
securing this contract.
@. Well, sir, then state all that took place.
A. made Q proposition 70 Mr.. Huntington, con-
tingent upon the award Of the contract, Of so
many cents per square yard. How many
cents those were Icannot say.
@. Have you any ideal A. ! have, not any
idea. think It must have been somewhere
between thirty and forty cents. Perhaps thirty
cents per square yard.
O. That You promised him In case Of the
contract being awarded Ain case Of the
contract being awarded; contingent upon that.
o. He agreed TO that, did bel It appeared
to be satisfactory 10 him, sir.
O. He was not TO put in any money! A.
Not at all.
@. He was simply to use his influence 70 pro-
cure you Q contract, and for that was to have
q compensation Of somewhere about thirty
cents per square yardl A. Yes, sir; think SO.
It might have been more and Il might have
been less.
Q. But that is as near as you can recollecH
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How long sfser that was Il until the con-
tract was awarded A. Several months. A
contract was awarded to rs In june.
Q. Was that The frsti A. That was the
first contract, and the only contract; June %,
thinlr MO