National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-10

first note. The first note you say, according to
your recollection, fell due in some 30 or 90
days after this arrangement with Mr.. Chitten-
deni A. Yes, sir.
Q. That note was made payable, you think
now, in Chicago, and was there presented TO
you for payment 4. Yes, sir. "a
q, How did you arrange that motel A. Lid
not arrange II. II was arranged herein Wash
i1ston, think, through my partner, Mr.. De-
9. That was a $4,000 motel A. No, sir;
that was u, 500 note. 1 think that was the
! Q. That was the one that was paid here in
Washington through your partner, Mr.. DeGol-
yeri A. Yes, sir; l think It was.
Q. Then go TO the next note; it was SIC, 900
note was ita-A. My impression Is that they
were SO, 900 notes, but may be mistaken.
Come to think Of it there may have been some
5000 notes In that series of notes. do not
know but there was.
@. The first one of that series which was
presented to you at Chicago for payment-will
you tell the committee by whom it was pre-
scented, through what source 1t came, and what
arrangement you made In regard TO its pay
mentf A. It was presented to US through a
bank in Chicago. ~" .- -
o. By whom was it indorsedi A. It was In
dOrsed by DeGolyer q McClellan.
@. BY anybody else7 A. No, sir.
Q. What arrangement did you make In re-
gard to its payment A. I told the banker
to send It to Washington; that IL belonged in
Washington, and they had better send IL there
and get It paid; that Mr.. DeGolyer was in
Washington, and he would attend to it.
Q. Was that arrangement complied with, 90
far as you knowi A. l think It was.
@. You saw nothing more of 1T A. saw
nothing more of it,
Q. Did you yourself give any renewal paper
for any of these hottest A. Yes, sir; think
did in the presence of Mr.DeGolyer.
O., II Chicagoi A. In Chicago, at Mr..
Holiness bank-the Manufacturer National
Bank. -.- --..l
O. When was than A. That was during the
winter, think, of 1872. That was after they
were due, know, some time. ..-
@. After they were duel A. Yes, sir.
9. Who held that paper at that time? A.
Mr.. Holmes said he was the owner of those
notes. He said he had bought them.
@. In order that there may be no misunder-
standing as to the date of this-you say a year
ago this last winter A. Yes, sir; should
judge so.
Q. Did Mr.. Holmes tell you of whom he had
bought the hottest A. Yes, sir: he told me
name was Kirkland. He went by the name of
Colonel Kirkland.
@. Who was hel A. I do not know, sir.
Q. Who did he say he vast From all the in
formation you have on this point, who is
Colonel Kirtlaudl A. do not know, sir. Mr..
Holmes said he bought the notes from Colonel
Kirkland; that he brought them to him in
Chicago.
Q. Can you give us any means of identifying
this man Kirtlandl A. l cannot. / do not
know anything of the man. understood that
his home was somewhere in the State of New
York. do not know but 1t was Albany.
Mr.. Merrick. We have issued o subpoena for
Colonel Kirkland, directed to Albany.
The Chairman. The committee have already
taken steps to get him. ILL.,.
Mr.. Bass, Ito the witness.) Q. Did you have
any Identification or any knowledge of this man
Kirkland, yourself, In any wayl A. Nothing
more than had met him In Washington the
same spring or season that this contract was
awarded to us, and was introduced to him at
the Arlington House.
Q. By Whoml A. By George r. Chittenden
Q. Did Mr.. Holmes, of whom you speak, as
you understood, own all Of these unpaid notes?
A. When we made the sale to Mr.. Holmes this
spring, or during the winter, about two months
ago, he said that he held all of those notes.
He said that he was the owner of them. And
be produced the notes and showed them to US,
but he said that he wished to retain them, and
gave me written article setting forth the con-
ditions; that the notes were in his hands, and
that the notes were satisfied and were void so
far as the claim against US was concerned.
Q. How many Of those notes were there then
outstandinga A. think he had 60,O00 Of
them.
Q. Did you examine the notes with reference
to seeing whether there was any Endorsements
on them besides your own? A. Yes, sir; never
have noticed any Endorsement on the back Of
these notes but DeGolyer & Mcclellan. There
were two of them that were renewed, as have
stated. They were renewed, and the old notes
surrendered by the renewal Of these other two
notes.
By Mr.. Stewart: Q. Did you give notes for
the same amount A. Yes, sir. / say one of
them might be fraction less than SIC, 900 to
make IL up.
Q. And the whole notes were for ST., DOOR
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You paid g., 500 by note herel DeGolyer
paid one here of that amount A. Yes, sir.
9. The renewals were held for the same
amount. Then that would leave s69, 800 in
stead of $50, 900. Where is the other 9,5OOl
A. You asked me that while ago, and cannot
account for it now. I have no recollection how
the thing was fixed. have thought of that
and cannot get L right. .,,u. n. MOI Inut
/ know of. All, with the exception of the
", 800, was paid and settled for in the city of
kAO pSJcOO nuo IuC
amount paid in the city of Washington.
Y. wish you would think what became Of
that Ss,5OO. A. cannot bring to mind how
that was settld at all.
Y. You probably will be able TOT A. NAV,
put IN our sale 10 Mr.. Holmes it was Jumping
affair, winding the whole thing up, getting
.h9se qotss 9yt Of the wy; and gldeTstand,
and am Positive, that M. Holmes had ali OF
the notes that were outstanding of that series
Of notes. do not know but that we did nav
. 0,000-note in Chicago in addition to that.
Come to think of 1t, think we did. Mr..
Holmes loaned US the money to take Il out of
he Cooke County National Bank. I believe
hat is where that amount came from. He
oaned us the money. and we pave him two
IS, 600 judgment-notes for that money. and the
Cooke County National Bank represented that
hey had $50, 900 of that money. and II we
would pay one of those notes they would ex-
end the other, think, four months.
Q. Then you paid more than that? A. Yes,
FIR; it has just come to me this moment. The
Cooke County National Bank threatened to
brow us into bankruptcy If we did not nav I'D,
But Mr.. Holmes, from the goodness Of his
leart, let US have $40, 900, and took I'D one of
hose notes and renewed the other.
Q. How did you pay Mr.. Holmesf A. We
ave him two Judgement notes, think.
ould not tell you the time they were given on,
ut afterward they were paid to him.
by Mr.. Bass: Q. Your own judgment-notesl
!. We gave our own judgment-notes to Mr..
iolmes for the money that he let US have.
Ky MIR. Stewart: Q. Have you paid those |
otes that you gave to Mr.. Holmes-fudgment |
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