National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-04


used for paving and sold for that purposef A..
"A portion Of kiln of brick generally are OF paw
ing brick. We furnished some paving brick;
do not remember how many.
/ @. You had no experience anterior TO that IN
the building Of seweri A. Its the frst one
ever built. q, x rs'f
Q. And you did sell portion Of the brick to
be used for payingi A. Yes, sir.
Q. Were not they the best brick you had
burneda A. They were the smoothest, and all
of regular color. The arch brick, though,
were the strongest; burned hardest.
q. Now, which Of the brick did you use; the
archi A. We used the arch iu the sewer.
Q. The other brick you sold for paving pur-
posesi A. We sold some paving brick.
Q. Do you know Mr.. Howe, bricklayer?
A. Yes, sir; be was boosting for me.
. @. Was there not controversy between you
and him IN regard 70 the character Of the brick
used; didn't Mr.. Howe say TO you'you were
T.. Did not the several bricklayers In your
employ complain you were using inferior brieh
a. No, sir. lsfa n81s ssls-ih IT, o. A4tssi
Q. You say there was no controversy what
everi A. No, sir; nothing Of the kind,
@. There was no objection made 10 the brick
ct any timei A. Tbs only objection that was
made was that we used some few machine
brick. They objected to laying them on &C
count Of the sharp edges. e
Q. Don't you know the controversy finally
reached the ears of Governor Shepherd and he
came and inspected the brick that was therei
A, No, sir. 80 sa.1 - .,E-L ISLE =
Q. Did you give any attention to the laying
work myself. ~ ~ -
Q. But you were not a practical bricklayer.
A. No, sir.
o. Did not you know whether they we're
proper brick or noti A. Yes, sir; think
| did. - tL
o. And you now say that you had no con-
troVersy with any of the men in your employ,
and that Governor Shepherds attention was
never called to it, nor did he inspect the brickf
A. Never was called to 1t, to my knowledge.
@. Who was engineer then Of the boardf A.
r. G. Phillips, chief engineer. a
Q. Was there any controversy between you
and himi A. do not know that there was.
@. Did not he say to you that the brick were
of an inferior and unsuitable quality A. I
think that at one time one load Of bricks was
hauled there, and he objected to them, and
they were hauled away. ~
Q. Were not they hauled back A. No, sir.
Q. Had you any other business at that timei
A. No, sir. .-.. .a
Q. You gave them your whole attention. A.
Q; Your partner likewise gave his attentions
A. No, SIR
Q. Did you get any portion of your brick
from the city Of Baltimorei A. No. sir.
Q. You manufactured all the bricks used in
that sewerl A. No, sir; we did not manufac-
ture them all. We bought some from other
yards. LAID - .s
Q. And none from the city of Baltimore; no
brick that came by carsl A. No, sir. Never
got brick from Baltimore.
By Mr.. Mattingly: Q. How was your con-
tract obtained; BY bid A. Yes, sir. The
seTer was enlarged afterward aud the dimen.
By Mr.. Merrick: O.. Did you furnish the
brick that Strong usedl A. We furnished, ]
think, four or five thousand one day. He got
out, and we furnished him, think, for one
day only.
| TESTIMONY OF FRANoIs RESIDE.
Francis Reside sworn.
By M. MaLtingly: @. State what your bust
ness is ? A. 1 am q bricklayer.
Q. How long have you been engaged In that
businessi A. About twenty-five years.
Q. Did you have anything to do with this
| B-street seweri A. was appointed superin-
tendeut of that B-street sewer when it was
started; from the commencement of 1t In June,
believe, about the Goth.
Q. How long did you remain in that position 2
A. remained there during the months Of June
and July.
Q. Was the work progressing during that
time! A. IL was.
Q. State what kind OF brick were used in
that sewer during the period that you were
therea A. In building sewer of that kind we
used arch brick. At the time that sewer was
building there was great deal Of work doing,
i and there was q great deal of sewer work do
ing; paving doing; and as inspector TO tho
Board of Public Works had to use the best
could get. / told Mr.. Gantz, the gentleman on
the stand before me, that some of the brick
| 7 fold 20 ha han,
away, which he did de. He used at that time
arch brick. The brick were burned over there
in Virginia, at the time. They were all burned
by coal, so that they showed light surface.
Many of the brick we do not know whether
they are salmon or arch; but It is the sand that
burns them, and they came there, and when
would look at the brick would say, use them.
A great many bricklayers said those brick are
salmon. / would say those brick are hard
enough to 90 in. When you break them open
and look inside of the brick you found 1t was
hard, but outside the sand burned them with
ashes and produced light surface on the out
| side.
Q. Were any salmon brick used there, to
your knowledge, in the sewer? A. They were
not used while was there. There might have
been salmon brick used. ! told Mr.. GantZ
that there were some inferior bricklayers work
ing there at that time. told the men to put
the best brick on the lower surface, and to put
the rubbish that is on the inside surface, work.
ing to a 14-inch ring of the top, and the bottom
was an 1S-inch; and we put the rubbish of the
brick in the center, and we put the good brick
on each outside portion Of the work.
Q. You have had considerable experience 10
work of this kind, have you no.i A. Yes, sir.
/ helped to turn this very same arch over my
head now. l helped to build It, lreferring to
archway Of the room in which the committee
are holding its sessions.
Q. That sewer, while you were there, as long
as you had any knowledge of il, was 1t prop
erly constructed, in your opinioni A. It is as
good job as there is in the country. There
Is not any pressure that can burst 1t to-day;
no pressure of water. / will take any man
there and show him its good qualities. If any
one of the committee will go right now with
me in a boat there, will show them the arch
| there now to-day.
By the Chairman: Q. How can we 20 tberes
A. Go there in boat. You cannot 60 there
unless you do.
| Q. You think that is a good seweri A. Yes,
sir; do.
Q. What is the reason you did not stay there
until the whole sewer was completed. A.. The
reason I did not stay there was because the
Board of Public Works did not want to pay me
money enough to stay there. Mr.. Phillips
thought / was not worth but "a day, and
could get more money outside than that at
any time, and that is the reason did not stay
there.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. Who succeeded you as
superintendent therei A. could not hardly
tell. don't know who succeeded me.
Q. Was there somebody there AFTER youl A.
There was.
Q. Do you recollect whoi A. W. W. Griffith
succeeded me.
Q. Was he q bricklayeri A. He was not.
Q. What was his businessi A. Idon't know.
could not tell you his business.
@. Did he have any business A. suppose
well, almost everybody has q business. don't
know what his business was.
Q. Was he 8 mechanic Of any kind A. I
could not say.
By the Chairman: Q. They got him for 81 q
day A. That is what they paid me while Twas
there.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. Was there anybody else
that you know of besides that mani A. Well,
noticed that there were-that at the tefmina-
ton of 1t there were several there on the Job.
Q. Do you recollect the names Of any of the
superintendent A. Yes, sir.
| Q. Whol A. There was man by the name
Of Mcclellan there.
Q. What was his occupationi A. BE claimed
to be plasterer.
Q. Was he q plastereri A. Indeed, could
not tell you. He was not bricklayer; know
| that.
Q. Were there any tailors on that jobi A. /
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