National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-18

a eopyi Why was II you fixed the amounts q
voc did, and times Of the notes-three thou
sand at fifteen days; i've n one month hve q
two; twenty at four; twenty at hve; twenty ~
nine months interest ut six per cent? whist
wac the reason of making the notes those
amounts and upon those termsi A. The reason
for making the notes those amounts and on
those terms was In order 70 enable rs 70 pay
the notes ont Of the proceeds Of the contract
The contract was i've months-to run I've
months.
O. But with whom did you make the arrange
ment that the notes should run for these vari
Gus lengths Of timei A. With Colonel Kirt
land; all these notes with Colonel Kirkland.
Q. Was Brown to have any Of those notes
A. He was not.
Q. What was Brown 70 hayei A. Ten thou
Sand dollars, In money.
Q. When did you make the arrangement with
Kirkland that he should take the notesi A
The arrangement was made day or two ante
Mr.. DeGolyer went away, and, indeed, when
first made the arrangement with Colonel Kirt
land, It was that he should have his compensa
ton along as the contract was completed.
q. Did DeGolycr and Colonel Kirkland hay'
. personal acquaintance herei A. DeGolye
and Colonel Kirkland had personal acquaint
snce through me.
o. Did Brown, also, and De Golyer know
each otheri A. Yes, sir.
Q. Through you'll A. Yes, sir.
d. Was this matter talked over with them
that Is, between Brown and Mr.. De Golyeri A
No, sir; this matter was not talked over Will
them at all. simply acted In the relation
. @. As the agent between the partiesi A
As an agent, and wanted De Golyer or McClel
lan-they were my principals in this matter.
Q. Now, when you returned to Chicago AM
had your interview with De Golyer g. McClel
Ian, you say on the first occasion the notes wen
not drawn and signed or delivered A. No
sir.
Q. Did you take this contract up with 70,
that you mention in this telegram A. No
sir; did not take the contract, because>-
Q. What steps did you take after receiving
this telegram about that contract to take will
you'll A. Ny judgment In this matter did no
harmonic with theirs. This award, with ou
acceptance of the award, together constituted
in my opinion, legal and perfect contract
and hence, did not take any steps to take TIT
contract home as they first expected me to do
wanted 1t done because thought 1 could
convince them my position was legally cor
rect. '--r- -- "
Q. Did you have any consultation with any
person here upon that subject A. Mr.. De
Golyer was here in person.
stood you to say, when you sent this dispatch
to Chicago, Mr.. DeGolyer had already lef
Washington A. Yes, sir; and had the awari
with him.
Q. You remained here several days aferward
A. Yes, sir.
o. Now, after Mr.. DeGolyer left you sen
this dispatch. They instructed you to brinl
the contract with you. What consultation,
any, did you have with reference to carrying
49, ~
tracti A. l felt perfectly satisfied in my Owl
mind.
Q. Did You have any advice or consultation
with any personl A. No, sir, acted on my
own Judgment IN the matter.
Q. Why did you remain several days, or Z
week, after Mr.. DeGolyer left! A. canno
say it was o week. cannot say how long 4
was after Mr.. DeGolyer left. stopped to ar
range the terms with Mr.. Kirkland.
Q. Now, when and where did you arrang'
these terms with Mr.. Kirtlandl A. At thu
hotel.
Q. How long did # take to do that A
When we were engaged In that business-wher
We came together In regard to that business
Q. At that interview with Mr.. Kirkland die
anything ,transpire with reference to the ser
vices that Mr.. Kirkland had rendered to justifI
you In giving him these hottest A. It wa
merely the carrying out of the contract that
had with Mr.. Kirkland long while before.
Q. did not ask you that. 1 ask you another
question. Did any conversation occur between
dered in procuring this contract at that time
A. It was 50 well understood that we did no
discuss the services at all.
Q. What was well understood A. That
was to pay him this amount upon getting thi'
award.
Q. No, ask you another question distinci
from that. Did you have q conversation with
Mr.. Kirkland with regard to services he hat
rendered, under ich he claimed to have
become entitled these notes; q converse
ton as to what he had done in your behalf A
No, sir.
Q. You never had any such conversation
with hima A. No, sir; not at all.
Q. Then or at any timei A. No, sir.
Q. Did you have any written contract with
Mr.. Kirtlandi A. / did.
O. Have you any writings of Mr.. Kirkland
in reference to this in your possession A.
have not.
Q. Have you any other kilograms from De.
Golyer & Mcclellan In regard to this in your
possession, or copiesi A. Not that know of
! have none here.
Q. Have you any letters of Mcclellan, or
DeGolyer q Mcclellan in your possession in
relation to thisl A. Onlythose kilograms.
Q. You have no letters in regard 10 this con-
tract or in regard to this business In your pos
session. A. have no letters.
Q. Nor copies Of lettersl A. No, sir; have
none.
Q. Have you any here or at Chicagoi A.
received letters from Mcclellan from Chicago
urging me to stand by and, get this contract
here, from time to time. Twas receiving let
tiers from time to time.
% Have fhnea lattaro hare ar alea
wherei -
The Witness. From DeGolyer & McClellani
Mr.. Bass. Yes; or either Of them.
A. haven't those letters
Q. Have you copies of themi A. Ihave not
Q. When did you last have these letters tc
see them or any of theml A. / have seer
them within ten days.
Q. What did you do with themi A. I gave
themto my attorney, Mr.. Storrs.
Q. Wherei A. In Washington.
Q. Since you reached this cityi A. Yes, sir.
o. How many lettersi A. do not know.
Q. Tell us as nearly as you can. A. lean
not tell how many letters.
Q. Were there fftyi A. No, sir.
Q. TWENTY A. No, sir.
@. Tenl A. do not know.
Q. Are you unable TO say whether there wert
more or less than tent A. an unable to say
the number Of letters ! gave to Mr.. Storrs.
@. Can you state whether there were ten Of
these lettersi A. cannot.
Q. Who were they FRONT A. From Mr.. Nc
Clellan.
Q. To youi A. To me, at Washington.
@. Bearing what dates, or about what dates
written in what year, and what month"; A
Sundry dates; all through the time was here.
Q, VIII you have the kindness, as Mr.. storrs
is here, to ask for the letters and have them
producedl
Mr.. Storrs. would like to be permitted u
make statement right here. have several
letters which Mr.. Chitteudeu has given to me
l will state that we contemplate very shortly
or Mr.. Chittenden does, or acting for him, tc
bring suit against Mcclellan, of that firm, in
the city Of Chicago, in our courts there. Ths
letters are very important as evidence in thai
case. / have the letters in my pocket here.
dislike exceediugly-not as connected with thu
purposes of this investigation at ALTO dis
close eight or ten months In advance 70 Mr.
Mcclellan and to these gentlemen what svi
dence have In my possession. / hold them a
Mr.. Chittenden's counsel. ] submit, therefore
that under the circumstances ought not to b,
compelled to produce them.
The Chairman. You have no objection h
handing them to the committee for their pr
vate examination
Mr.. Storrs. Not the slightest.
The Chairman. Then you can do that, II yoV
please.
Mr.. storrs. win do that with pleasure, an
think when tie committee ccT1e TO examin
them, they Will appreciate the force of wha