New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-07-27

you would SEQ tho originals Gen. Tracy should 90 with
O. Do you refuse produce the originals before this
Conmitteei A. do not refuse To produce them 10 tho
Committee in the presence OF some outside parties.
O. DO you refuse 10 produce them TO the Committee
alone A. Yes, unless can have some friend here win
O. Why did you not take that position yesterday A.
Because yesterday We had only chht. -, ,
O. BUT You decline except in the presence Of Off
cert A. decline unless can be perfectly certain that
they will be returned to me; don't want you 10 con
sdcr that rs disparagemcu; It Il only necessary
element In this discussion you snail see inc oisihA''
but will only show them under safeguards ,.,,.
O. why do YOU make that qualification A. For tnis
reason you SIX gentlemen Determined, II, possD'c
not find the facts, but to vhdicate SIr bcech anu
am alone There ar3 eSt oi you yo ann now NJ
er's apology perhaps you would not return IL 10 me
Though do not mean 70 make t1at . ~ ~
Mr. HtH-Let me say kindly speaklng on Denan f ~
both OF the counsel-tho committee nay spSsN I io
geiher gronndess A. ,, o,,r,,oons
Mr. Hull think you are unjust. -,
M Tfton-I have been informed that this IS matter
M W. Gi@sS"This Committee could afford to take
that position 1t would not do to take those letters
Mr. 'Tiion-I am perfectly willing to bring several
friends OF mine and make an examination o. thoar let
ters shall see them but under piOptr o Ee Void
take the same ground
MR. TIITOSs EARLY MARRIED LIFE.
Gen Tracy-No he would not, beg your parcop.
O Al the beginning OF the Acquaintance OF Mr.
Bccchor with your famy-uot with you or your VIC
but with your familydd not you invite him frequently
TO your hOuse' a. Yes, SIT; ana was "'""'' 'N''
proud when he came.
O DID you no. say 10 him frequently that You desired
him to visit your house frcqueDtlyi A. did' ana
always scolded HIM because he did not cOme oltAer,
Gurinr the first part of our life we were IN oAiotus 80
,,r awav that he very rarely came the frequency Oh
his visits took place after purchased ne houSo III "
q when was thati A. I have forgotten the year;
should say seYen OF eight OF nne' Oh Ven years
a. Did not YOU say that there was a little woman at
your housc'that loved him dearlyf A. did many
time always wanted him TO come ottener. ,,o,, and
O. You frequently spoke TO him OF the igh esteei anu
affection that your wife bore to min, did you notf IL
Wv" ~ Yon always knew III A. I cannot say that
always did because at first, during the cary ysaIs 81
my married lie. felt that Mr. Beeeher raIGL IE aved
my family; he was intimate with me, ana thnk lovcu
me but lie did not TO come very often To nv nonsc
and it did not please me; wanted him TO come oeheI
o. And il wounded you, did IT notl A. cannot say
that was wounded was mere boy II was a matter
OF mi Re 70 have hIm there; Elizabeth at rst vas MOI
EST and frightened she did not know how to tax win
him. or how to entertain Dm ana II was slO" process
t5Ik with him; IL was the same with Mr. Greeley; he
had great for her. and had an eXaed oPnio
S III aSr rtS SS dDt T for Mrs. Iitcn
O. And did lot she haze a high regard for him also
O. And that was known TO you tool A. That was
known TO me; and was very glad OF 1t. No., Va
used TO come ana stay sometimes in tho Summer week
or two a time: we kept bachelors-hall yes, ne came
often: il was always a white day when Mr.. Greeley
came lie used to say that he never would come III my
absence; he saidit was not good habit. ~ la
O. Did you urge him 10 come "hen you were Oh Icc-
@ Did you impress upon Mr. Beecher the ,I neG @o
sitF and desire that had that be would can upon
your family ana see your Whe frequently duilAs your
absence A. did.
RELIGIOUS ASPECTS AND CHANGES.
O. Now Mr.. Ton. you have stated the religious char
m Inc ayaiu \.
wife religious character have If you will pardon the
aion undertaken to set forth in the book that have
snent a wear in writng-a work OF fiction called TEN
nest Tossed "a strangely borrowed from my own
heaving breast in that novel is character Mary
yail:D do not want to say vainly before the pnbc
that drew that character for Elizabeth buul dd
there il chaper-the ninth think Wont nc ceT T
about the numberl which Is called " MARY vars Jou,
hai mn from EIizabeth's letters aud my heart
was cleft in twain find in these letters some Oh the
t3n, nsderably 10 make them conform the story.
had this feeling that in this novel could as mere
hve IT. 90 oIIety in an underhanded way. forth, that
that was Elizabeth Qor think drew II ialthtuyl ~
would be a very thorough answer as coming from me,
TO the scandals in the community and that people would
saw "Theod0re respects his wife "-as DO, to-day -
o. Was 1t a truthful character OF EhzaDetht a, ~
was 1t was not drawn as well as the original Wou4d
o. You saw 1t was not drawn as well the original
would warrant then her devotion and purity oI me
would warrant higher character than you have given
MARY Vail IN that bOokl A. Yes unless you atacha
technical meaninsito the word purity; sue was maze d
O. You say that that character in that book falls below
the original A. Yes, because did not make IL
re fb UIs any other persons that figure in this
drama who described in that book, Tempest IoSSedF
A. No. except by suggestions. -
O. Is not Your true friend described therei Mr. Til
ton-You mean Mr. Moultoni Gen TracyIfes A. no;
Of the characters In Tempest Tossed, MARY Vail" is
the only that Is true To fe the character OF the
colored woman partly suggested by eOlored wo-
O. You have brought forward the letter OF your wife
where she describes herself as HAVING received new
in Griffith Gaunt" have you read the character OF
Catherine Gaunti A. Yesterday said no; but nave
impression that have; friend OF mine yesterIay
morning said that Is singular result from Inc Ter
called The Terrible Temptations" have never read
that book, but second thought think have read
Journey and that wrote something to Elizabeth about
1t. and asked her to read It,
was that OF adultery A. 1 have no idea that did
O. Has there been change IN your religious views
am happy to say. think there Is IN every sensible
O. Do YOU know whether the change in your religious
convictions source OF great grief and sorrow 10
your wife A. it was great source OF tears ana
anguish her she said to once that deny ing the
divinity OF Christ IN her view nulliled our marriage al
most aud think next to the sorrow OF TINS seanla u
else she has suffered because cannot look upon the
Lord Jesus Christ the Lord God; think her breast
has wrenched with it she Is almost an enthusiast
the subject OF the divinity Of her Savior.
@ You think her Christian, do youi A. Yes, she Is
the best Christian know Of barring her faults better
than any minister.
O. Well on the whole do you not think that she ia
about as white as Christiansi A. Yes, whittier than
ourselves
WOMAN AND PASTOR.
O. Then you would not qualify the expression. when
you say that she the Christian you know barring
her faut Do you think that she is the best Christian
you know with her fautsi A. No, would not say that,
because there has been strong deceit wrought out in
Elizabeth that comes from the weakness Of her char
acter She has had three strong persons to circulate
among-Mr. Beecher her mother, and mo- In sentiment
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