National Republican., 1874-05-27

@. Would be send it 70 you OF oertly, or both
| Of youi A. He usually sen. those things TO
me, because usually made the Measurements.
Q. He usually semi them to yodl A. Yes,
| sir. q
@. Did he ever direct you Of all how 10 do it,
except to getit donea A. No, str. -
Q. Did you ever know Of his giving any d.
| rectiou as to bow surveys should be made, ex- .
eept to hurry yos engineers up so that the set
| tlement could be made. A. No, SIR. e
Q. Did you evet hear Of bis intimating 10
any engineer an5 way 70 make Il exeeptto
hurry ii up and do the work. A.. No, sir. ID
VIII say, however, in this connection, that
whenever Governor Shepherd, as vice presI-
dent, and since Mf. Willard has been vice
president, and when Ar. Eullptt was chief
engineer, Mr.. Philips, or Mr.. CIuss, whenever
either one OF those persons seat me request
| to MAKE measurement, IinyariabIy eonsn1sed>
those persOne, and thenif the thing was not
right, had the responsibility OF my shoulders
@ When MIR Willard, or Mr.. Shepherd, or
any Of the members of The board cent you an
order TO survey you did sshatever---SsAyHi
| Hheneyer they semi ne an order directly, CIV
! Ing my name, Twould invariably consult Mr.
Mullett, Mr.. Phillips, or Mr.. Cluss about II. b.
Q. You consulted with your chief A. Yes,
sir. 1knew it was .my duty 70 do that, so that
II there was anything wrong l might be freed
Q. You do not think there wes anything
wrong about request 10 make q surveyI A.
Certainly not, sir, In the least orly aid that
as matter of fornality. That is the wayI
have been brought up. ...Eza - r.a 9..r
O. Suppose he spoke to as you we've going
along, and asked you to hurry no the snryeyi
A. should do that By all means, or offer 10
do It,. c--G '.- -.l LsI r.a.E ...1... e. / -
G. Suppose he spoke to you about there be-
ing other work ahead that ought to be done, II
he met you, or any ole of you, would you go
to Mr.. Ciuss and speak about M A. No, sir.H
Perhaps after / had II done / would tell him
that the Governor had ordered me toldo so and .
SO, and that had done it. 90. 60 -.--' 81
Q, Then the executive officer of the board is
in the habit of calling upon the surve9Or's Of
fee, and hurrying them up pretty constantly
for work. They we're pretty we'll pressed, we're
they notl A. Yes, str, .. -. t...a.' 10 .-.
Q. And he was, pressed by applications for
those surveysi A. Yes, sir! e.. - - .-a:-..
Q. When 8 contractor had some work ready
for measurement, he was very anxious that it
should be measured A. Yes, sir. .. q. ..-
Q. Ths final certificates were all signed BY
you, were they'll A. They have all been signed
by me, nearly all Of them, since April, 1878; /
think about 5 year ago. Before that time Mr..
Forsyth was measurer fol the board. 80 e.
Q. Before that Mr.. Forsyth did SO? A. Yes, ,
sir. .... s..-r r-..--r..lg Z, .. =
Q. 1t was his dutyi A. Yes, sir.- ... ..ra ~
Y. It has been your duty since you have
been the head of i2 A. Yes, sir. .- r.rF 5
Q. Nobody has signed = final voucher With
out your, approbation2 A. think in some
cases. thiuk Mr.. Forsyth WAS detailed last
measurements for O. E. Evans; those know
nothing about. ..--. ... -.- . ... ...
Q. Final measurements Yes, sir. o.. ?
Q. Who certified TO themT A. Mr. Forsyth.
Q. Were thsv not certified also by Mr.. Clussi
A. No, sir; think not. --. g.. ... r ..
Q. What WAS that 4. For most of the
Evans concrete work on Connecticut avenue,
VI, n aud L streets, sud the streets in the First
ward. .-.... .-.. -.E
Q. Have you tested It to see vhc.her it was
correct or uot1 A. No, sir; have not. y
g. Have you paid apy attention to this meas
uremeut on Twelfth street, A. No, sir; none
whatever. go .rsy BE- .. ...= zzr
Q. Have you looked it Overt A. Yes, cir; az /.
the request Of Governor Shepherd did that 3
with Mr.. Blickensderfer. l went TO the Ehhitt
house Saturday night, think.
Q. Have you remeasured in A. No, sir;
have not. SIR. Forsyth made that measure
ment. ... -.. ..... -ar F h
Q. Who made the cross-sectionsi AL dId Z
Q. In making the cross-sections, what did !
you do at the Intersections How were those
rne rross.secsions were commenced q Penn
sylvanis avenue and running all the way
through 10 the Boundary. Twelfth street was
one of the first streets finished, and Mr.. Gle
phane laid the intersections of all the other
fstfeess; eonscqaertiy, we -la4d the cross-sec-
tons right straight through across the other
streets. ..r
Q. And the cross-sections show thatl L..
Yes, sir. --.- r-.- /. ---- a..--...- -
o. So that includes Twelfth street, right
straight through the whole Of it, A. Yes, sir;
with the exception, think, of New York ave
nue. which was laid before In fact, there was
no grading done there, at any rate. =
Q. There is pretty heavy cut through
Twelfth street, A. Yes, sir. There were two
points, one between @ and n, 9 cut of about s
feet, and a point between K street and II
street. That was something like 6 or feet
IN some places. Then the measurement ran
up to P street. ----... -.-.. -. d.. .-.-.i :.
Q. What shows the depth on that proAlei
A. The eross-sections show that. Those ind
have not here, Al the corner OF L street the
centre Of the street was e2 feet and 8-10; that
is the elevation above tEdewater. The new
grade uow Is IS 7-10, showing there Is lilo
feet cut ct that point. That would be about
81 feet cut on Massachusetts, avenue, The
deepest cut Is between K and u streets. This
knoll was cut right of. '.- q --'r, = "a :.
Q. What was the greatest depth at the mid
dlel A. think about feet was the greatest
depth n any point. --.-
Q. Has It been done precisely according to
that surveys; A. Yes, str. These grades which
/ have shownyou were taken within the last
six months, and checked over TO be sure they
were right; we have checked them over to get
e correct record of them; we, have a map
showing all the grades of the city; the work
was done according 10 the grades there pro-
yided for; and we have checked Il over since.
Q. Do you know anything about that con-
tract, as matter of fact, whether there was
an extra grading outside on other streets that
was included A. I only know at the inter-
section Of Massachusetts avenue; but do not
know the circumstance. simply know that
Mr.. Clephane cub away there, think, At the
at the southeast cornsr Of Massachusetts, ave-
nue. and Twelfth street; be cut out to the
h1fld tpa har md he h,1iI6 6fner lima n
the accommodation of some one Of the prop
erty-ownsrs, and at the time we were setting
curb-stakes there we made q Measurement Of
that, and IL Is IA yards. ,- ..r --
Q. In measuring, this grade koes to what &
point, as far as the sidewalk or to the building
line 0 A. To the building line. - !,
Q. Ths grading goes through the streets,
thenf A. Yes, sir; It goes all the way fr on
one building line to the other. 7,. ~
Q. There are sons places IN the city, you
know, where they have only graded Il 70 the
side walki A. There is one place on ,TweIfth
street, between g and II, the propefty-owners
objected to having it cut down square to the
building line, and there was . small terrace
put in-some or feet, should Judge.
| Q. Then this measurements goes from build
ing linz 70 building nnsl A. Yea, slr. I J
how you came outi a I never agursa L IN IN.
tn Mr., Blcksnsderfer semi ibis 70 me. Since
he sent To me for the cross-seSfionl haze
plotted 1t up and worked !. opt, aad gave him
my figures, these cross- sections were taken "a
JANUARY or February, is72, and ] have aeps
nothing with them; they have been lyiag 5n
the office. / bare done nothing With them at: n
tn Blickensderfer cams to me And wb4tsq
them, Whenever be has wanted any infofmR
ton OF that Kind about eros. sections We have
always plotted them for him-mads little
map for him, figured up the contents our
selves, and then Passed, them over @ him to
aftervard, and n they we're not right he could
make them right.
O. The igufss agreed A. Yes, sir. ,
D. How do you account for the difference
between the voucher and the surveyi A. Well,
SIR, / do not know; / suppose Mr., Forsyth
used his own Judgment, As should hare done
II ! had no cross-sections. So ! & Z. ~
Q. How did be. make the survey; did he
have your eross-sectionsf A. No, sir think
not. s-.-- - a, -.-- !. e. = - -
By Mr.. Wilson; q. Could he have had thsna
II he wanted theml A. He could have had
them II he had applied At The Office foF them.
BY Mr.. Stewart: @. This was under Nr. Phil
lips; be was the engineeri A. Ies, an.