Nashville union and American. [volume] (Nashville, Tenn.) 1868-1875, 1874-06-11

so before the Judiciary Cammittee Of the
last House.
Mr.. Treinaine-Ont the contrary, there is
letter in this House written by him yes
terday, denying it in toto.
Mr.. Butler-And he was on the floor
and put it to him to his face, and he did
not dare deny it; and he cannot come on
this floor and deny it.
Mr.. Kellogg-He could not deny il here.
You had the advantage of him, and you
refused him an opportunity to deny it.
Mr.. Butler-ssPardon me, sir, do not do
that. l do not come from Connecticut"
(Laughter.)
Mr.. Woodford, Indignantly Sand, IS
grandson of Connecticut, am gatiied.P
Mr.. Butler, (scornfully,) $50 am IL
(Laughter)
Mr.. Frye proceeded with his argument in
contravention of the idea that the United
States Government appeared at Geneys in
the character of claims agent.
"Without contingent fee," interrupted
Mr.. Butler.
Coming to questions of mutual insurance
companies, Mr.. Frye referred to the re-
mark of Mr.. Tremaine yesterday, that the
motion to strike them out of the bill was
fraud on the committee, and to his own re-
ply that they were got in by fraud.
Mr. Tremaine-WIll the gentleman al
| low question?
Mr.. Frye-No, sir; | will not.
Mr.. Tremaine-The gentleman makes
charge of fraud, and then will allow no
answer. That is courage.
Mr.. Frye-The charge was made when
the gentleman had an hour to himself and
had ample time to answer it. trust that
the mutual insurance companies viii be
struck out of the bill, and that win Rave
them on the same footing as stock in
surance oOmranies, to be paid in case they
lost, and only in case they lost.
Mr.. Ward, of Illinois, spoke in favor ofthe
substitute. Referring to Mr.. Poland's con-
demnatiOn yesterday of those who sup
ported Mr. Buffers substitute, he said if
the blush of shame should mantle any
cheek in connection with the matter, it
should not be his cheek, but that of his
venerable friend from Vermont.
Mr.. Hale, of Maine, supported Mr.. But
ler's substitute.
A Scene.
At three o'clock Mr.. Butler, of Massa-
Mr.. Poland complained that the time
had not been fairly spportioned to the min
Ority of the Committee, and asked Mr.. |
Butler TO yield - minutes to Mr.. Beck.
Mr.. Butler declined to do so, and ex-
pressed his opinion that the minority of the |
committee had had more than their fair |
proportion of time.
Mr.. Poland suavely)-Allow me a word. |
Mr.. Butler (firmly)-NO, sir, L will not. |
Mr.. Poland (doubtingly)-Are you sure
you will not?
Mr.. Butler positively)-I am sure will |
not.
Mr.. Poland consistently Two of the
four gentlemen who signed the minority |
report are not here.
The Speaker CATER good deal of ham
mering)-The gentleman from Vermont |
(Poland) is not in order. The rules give |
the gentleman from Massachusetts (Butier) |
the floor absolutely.
Mr.. Poland (perfectly unruflled)-I am
endeayOring to appeal from the gentleuan's
sense of Justice.
Mr.. Butler (bIuntly)--I DO not want any
appeal.
Mr.. Poland (yieldingly)-Well, if the
gentleman is disposed.
Mr.. Butler (determinedly)-Well | am
disposed. [Laughter.l
Mr.. Poland QeSuIning his Seat)-I have |
known gentleman u repent Of some evil
thoughts.
Mr.. Butler (triumphantly)-Mr Speaker.
what must be the eXigeucy of that eauSe2
What must be the influence of money con
trolled in few hands in the city of
New York, and in the cities of Boston,
Philadelphia and Baltimore. that can so in
fiuence the polite and courteous gentleman
from Vermont that be violates eFery rule of /
the House, andeyery courtesy of debate, and
insists on thrusting himself upon me against |
my will and the will of the I'Ouse, after we
have listened four mortal hours to the
claims of these insurance companies, pre-
seDted here for getting money out of people,
when they have already had two dollars for /
one and divided among themselves.
Mr.. Tremaine asked him if he would |
allow him to put question.
Mr.. Butler-YeS, if you will keep quiet /
afterwards.
Mr.. Tremaine-Thal depends upon
whether you tell me the truth or not.
Mr.. Butler-If that is good reason you |
will keep quiet all your life and die with |
your tongue dumb. But the difficulty is
that
Tweed
was convicted and the lawyer who convict
ed him cannot keep quiet ever since.
Mr.. Tremaine-And you sympathize |
with him.
Nr. Butler-I do with such counsel as
was against him. [Laughter.1
Mr.. Observation-Disclosures there is a
bond of sympathy between you.
Mr.. Butler-I think such man should !
be hunted by lions and not by iackalS.
[Laughtet.l Now you see the disadvantage
of inteTrupting.
Mr.. Tremaine-None whatever.
The Speaker pro TEN, Mr.. Randall, in
the chair-The gentleman from MasSachu-
sets will proceed.
Mr.. Butler-I will endeavor to do so if /
l am let alone.
Mr.. Myers asked Mr.. Butler whether un-
der the Jay treaty with Great Britain in
1894, and under the Florida treaty with
Spain in 1919, and under the French treaty /
Of 1881, insurance companies were not sub
rogated, aud paid pro rata with other losers.
Mr. Butler-Yes sir; now are You salts
fed?
Mr.. Myers am
Mr.. Butler-NOw / will tell you why,
which you never would have found out.
Now listen: 1t was because in those
treaties the private citizens were included,
and the insurance companies were subrO-
gated to these private claimants. The
difference is, that there are no private
claims in the Treaty of Washington. If
yeu find the wards ''private claims" will
sit down and give up to the insurance COM
panies, and that would be the worst pun
ishment that could be put upon me.
At the close of his speech the House then
proceeded to vote, and after disposing of
the various amendments, Mr.. Buffers sub
stitute for the Senate bill was agreed to
yeas 1872, nays 10l. Adjourned.