The New York herald., 1874-09-20

lowed the charges which Mayor Havemeyer now
stigmatizes as dishonest and fraudulent"
"Rew can you explain the discrepancies In the
Egures?~
.'yery easily. Take. for instance, the number OF
convictions reported to the Secretary OF State.
Now the Mayor makes 1t appear that we reported
10000 more convictions than actually took place
in the respective periods. He lorgets the con-
victions
IN ALL THE POLICE COURTS
which the law. Tor the purposes OF these reports
to the Secretary OF State, makes equivalent to
convictions In the Court of Special Sessions There
is the entire discrepancy. Mayor Havemeyer
might search the records for every other Sherin's
term OF once and ind the very same state OF
affairs. The convictions In the police courts are
always put down under the head Of especial Ses-
sions,n and there are, OF course, q great many
more OF them than there are IN the last mentioned
court alone We nave just the same trouble no W
with Comptroller Green. Auditor Earle sent
the number OF convictions in that Court for
the first threa months OF the year and the number
returned was about six hundred. Now the num-
Der OF convictions in all the police courts Tor the
first three months or the year (Which are included
under the head OF especial SeSslons'') was not
less than six tbousand.r
GLOW can the 1gures upon which Kelly's charges
are based be proved to be correct r'
1--WE can prove them TO be correct by the records
OF the police courts and the transcripts OF those
records IN the SherB's ONCE. Some o. the papers
IL being so long ago-nay nave been mlslalu Dut
think there Will be no difficulty, upon the whole,
TO establish
THE TRUTH OF WHAT SAY
by the docume tary evidence which have alluded
TO. We have TWO or three clerks specially detailed
to gather his information In regard TO the con-
vlctions in police courts Tney are supplied with
blanks with some twenty columns rth for the regis
traton OF every detail connected with each case
oil cOnvctIon.r
.'How about the charge OF summonng over sixty
thousand Imaginary Jurors MIR. CummlngsW
THAT is susceptible OF explanation. The Mayor
the General Sessions, and his figures fall, or
course! lar below tne mark. He ought to
have included the Jurors summoned TO the
would have found that Kelly's ngures were cor
rect. and that there was not one imaginary
juror IN the number charged. The whole letter
brstles with alsehoods prompted by malevolence.
TaKe ior instance, the charge Tor hanging Jere-
man O'Bren In 1867, $94O. That charge the Mayor
contrasts with the very small charge Tor the exc
cution OF James stephenson in 1859. But Is the
explanation not apparentS In 1867, when the war
IN It's prlce. The carpenter VINO could be bired
for the erection OF scafold in 1859 at 81 SO day
had TO be paid S5 day In 1867 or course the con-
trast ls super1cially effective,
BUT THERE is NOTHING IN TT
after all. There is the charge of 5000 for watchers
at the execution OF OBrien. Wel tnat is reason
able as we nave to keep two men alternately to
watch the prisoner night and day for ten or twelve
days, and dividing the amount between four watch
ers, you VIII find that the charge Is only about
50 per day for each.
"How as to the alleged overcharge for convey.
"lbe Board OF Supervisors raised the amount
from seventy-fve cents TO 81 SO, and as they had
perfect night to DO that there can be no DOUBT about
tue legality Of the charge. Aiterward they raised
IL to 81 75 and this Increase figures in the Mayors
statement as an 'oveTcnarge' OF 81 fof each prls-
oner. The Board OF Supervisors could nave al
lowed $40 II they liked. They had the authority
to nx the charge. anu nobody else."
"How about the overcharge for summoning over
q. 900 alleged jurors at thirty cents each Y'
1.-The Board OF Supervisors raised the amount
allowed from thirty to tnirty:ave cents each.
charge Of pretended attendance at the drawing
Of 713 jury panels not drawn, 81 each. Here the
MAYOR out fne or the & sI
there Is the charge OF summonlng over 2a 600 Ju-
rors,
Well, there Is 8 statute that II more than fifty
out Of 100 Jurors are not personally served the
Clerk OF tile Court shall not allow the Sherin's
charge for the service. Perhaps some five or six
panels In these many years were served IN this
faulty manner-that IS not impossible-but then 1t
was the duty OF the clerks OF the respective courts
to report the TACT to the Board OF SUPERVISORS who
should not have allowed the cnarge. That's all
to mest eyerv cnaree in tns vol,mnous arraqn.
ment; but tue foregoing explanations will give
you an idea OF its glaring ia!sity and maeyoient
misrepresentatlons. l leave Mr.. Kelly to lully eX-
pose the Mayors skilul tissue Of Hes"
Talk with the Mayor.
The reporter enjoyed subsequently an interview
with our jolly Mayor. He was in very good
accusers.
"what do you think OF waterbury's letter, Mr..
Mayor" said the HERALD representative.
"Oh, don't think anything about it. II Kelly
wants to arrest him or me, suppose he's well
come. ] don't know whether Kelly will reply to
my letter or not, and don't care. There are the
facts. Can he disprove themW
81 suppose they have been collected with care2 2'
The Mayor smiled complacently. "Well, am
generally pretty careful. l can't say whether
there isn't flaw in them. suppose
s9s ns osSrs and ps those Of Of
all have to say about that. There may be a mis-
take In my figures but II there is don't know 1t.
(The Mayor burst into 1T OF laughter.) He pos
itively imprisoned his own friends so that when
he couldn't get enough convictions to charge fol
nails were Irish. Ha, ha, na hal"
ANOTHER BOhBSHELL TO BURST.
81 suppose you are done with him now, Mr..
"No, not yet have something new in course
OF preparation. ! haven't got through with him
yet. always like to have ready something OF tina,
sort but oOn't know whether shall publish it. y
'Are you not afraid that John Morrissey will
% and that you % viii nave the worst Hii Of it" ~
II am never afraid TO speak the truth. Here ie
this man Kelly, who has bounded me because !
put Charlick and Gardner back, and he wanted To
send them to State Prison-for doing nothing
What was his mOtiveS All, he wanted to show
his power with a dramatic h0urish) and to pre-
vent the Police Commissioners In the future under
taking to interfere with his Ut would be imp0ss
bic to exaggerate tue malicious emphasis which
His Honor laid upon this pronoun) inspectors O
election. Don't you dare to interfere with my In
spectorsp This Is what he meant to say to the
world"
The Mayor was then asked about Mr.. Kelly's
chances for the election to the Mayoralty, but pO
lltely DECLINED to express any opinion on that sub
ject What the new disclosures about Mr. Kelly
will be it Is impossible to foretell.
A NEWARK MAySLAUGHTER MYSTERY.