The New York herald., 1874-10-25
THE LIE PICKwICKIAN
The Senator's Description Of the Ex.
Congressman on His Marrow
bones to William II. Tweed.
HOW DID CREAMER VOTE IN 1870?
No Human Gore Shed as Yet, but Coffee and
Pistols May Be Expected.
1880 A. M.

At precisely twenty-five minutes past twelve
O'Clock yesterday, Senator Thomas J. Creamer
might have been seen ascending the winding brown
steps Of the Manhattan Club, In Fifth avenue,
accompanied by HERALD representative, In
search OF information regarding the now raging
conhict between Mr.. Creamer and Mr.. John
Morrissey, which, II 1t continues much longer,
may possibly assume proportions as great as those
OF the Second Punic War. Passing through the
main nall he traternally greeted by q fashion
ably attlred young gentleman, who questioned the
senator In a melo-dramauc way
'.By St. Paul. valiant Hotspur, how goes cue
nghtf Is your vaward wing engaged on this side
Of the Humber ?"
Fright merrily goes the hght good my liege"
answered the Senator, land victory shall yet
perch on the banner OF Ottendorler and Jones.n
Mr.. Creamer, smiling all over his face, con-
tinued on up stairs and soon, with the HERALD
representative, was seated in the sumptuous
library OF the Manhattan Club. surrounded
by bookcases containing the FedaraAst, FL
liotts "Debates." Benton's Thirty Years
in the Senate" and other light reading,
while the grim visage OF Andrew Jackson
cleaned down from plaster cast on the hand
some figure and undaunted features OF the hero OF
many a legislative battle. Here the Senator sat
him down before large table and, looking dream
nats opposite he was duly questioned as to the
progress of the political combat and more par tic.
ulary in regard TO the 'slght unpleas-
antnessn which had occurred between himself
and the Hon. John Morrissey. No one would
imagine to gaze on the placid and genial coun-
tenanoe OF Senator Creamer, that forty eight
hours previous he met the most noted captain OF
his age whose feats OF muscular power have
equalled the exploits OF Finn McCool. The Senator
did not betray by his manner that either his centre
had been pierced his nanE turned, and he
seemed TO enjoy his cigar like man and q
brother.
| HERALD Observation-Disclosures Creamer,
the $50, 900 adult inhabitants Of this city and vi
cinity are eager and anxious to know through the
columns OF the HERALD all about your difference
| with the Hon. John Morrissey, and also they wish
! to know II he applied TO you any SPECIFIC and
opprobrious epithet. Did he use the term OF
.thief'' toward you, as ne states that he did
WAS ONLY PIcKwIcKIAN.
Senator CREANER, (calmy)-Why the question
refutes ITSELF and is totally absurd. Morrlssey did
| not call me by any such name. He said that had
voted for all the thievng and corrupt measures at
| Albany, and simply declined to continue In any
urther conversation with him.
HERALD REPREsENTATIvE.-well, Senator, what
| do you think as a man OF Mr.. john Morrissey and
his life ana public services?
Senator CREAMER (stlll perfectly calm and
happyl-I really do not wish to have any personal
controversy with a man OF Mr.. Morrsscy's per-
| him either politically or personally. never have
| been in his gambling den in Twenty-fourth street
during my lie. My only association with
| him was when he forced himself on the Young
Democracy in the interests OF the old Ring
! for the purpose or bringing our cause into con
tempt, just as he Is now doing with Mr.. Kelly,
| who, whatever desire the latter may nave to
sas G nx our city
dominance OF the Morrissey element In his Tam.
! many organization.
| ls MoRRTssEY A DISGRACE TO THE DEMOCRACY
HERALD REPREsENTATIyE-What do you think
OF the influence OF Mr., Morrissey In politics
Senator CREAMER-Mr. MorriSsey and his friends
have always known that considered their promi-
nent participation in politics as a disgrace to our
city and serious detrtment to the interests OF the
democratic party, and Tor that reason l have
always incurred their enmlty and I have consid-
cred IL complimentary TO myself When Mr..
Legislature he must forget now Tweed disQra ced
himself against his better judgment and te satisfy
ioeai poltticai leaders IN our city and county by
sending man with such character TO represen
US In Congress
NoRRIssEY's REpENTANcE
We all know that Il the time that Morrtssey was
sent to Congress, owing to his strong protesta-
lions that ee would change his mode or lie for the
sake y ais family the power OF Tammany was SO
great In the district which Tweed himself had rep
| fesented IN the state senate tnat he could nave
elected jackass or mule as easily as he did
proprlety to tho national legislature. Mr..
Morrlssey knows ful we'll that but for tue
| lnHuence oI speaker James u. Blame ana OLner
prominent republican leaders who took pity on
Morrissey, he would have been ignominiously ex-
| pelled from the door OF the House OF Representa-
| tiues. have always believed Morrissey's connec-
ton with the democratic party TO be the strongest
4 card that the republican party could use against
| us politically. His nslnuatlons that he has been
assaed solely because he was gambler. is uncalled
! ior No one has assailed one OF his profession, in
! which many gentlemen may be found, who how
ever, do not associate with Morrlssey or thrust
themselves before the public gaze tor notorety or
political pelf.
/ HERALD REPREsENTArTvE-Wha IL the record OF
Mr. Morrissey In national politics, MIR. Creamcrg
/ A LITTLE BIT or HISTORY.
| Senator CREAMRR On O sturdy tone)-f charge
! john Morrissey With having, in 1870, at Washing
| ton, bcep closetad with Noah Davis and other re-