National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-26

measuring the same thing IN order 10 test the
accuracy Of the work. Do you not think It
would have been more convenient to have had
the parties pressntS A. ldon't think that the
couyenience would have been any more or less,
but VIII say this, that all the parties were
notified Whenever went to work ct any Of
these avenues.
= Q. Was Mr.. Same notifedi A. Yes, SIR; the
Information was conveyed TO him.
Q. Notified when you were to 20 to work
upon each Of these places, A. Yes, sir.
Q. By whom. he denies thatl A. I cannot
help that, sir. I. was conveyed either by my
self or my assistant, and I think that he and
met, was going 10 say, lots Of times during
the progress OF almost every one Of these
things, and the Information was conveyed that
/ was than and there at work at that time on
those places.
Q. Either BY yourselfo or your assistant, direct,
the Information was conveyed to Mr.. Same,
that you were going to work upon these par
tcular placesf A. Yes, sir; sometimes he re-
quested me to send him word through the en-
gineers of the board or some one Of that kind;
and think, in some cases, that that request
was complied with without going any further,
but never for moment felt that had not
used all needful means 10 advise him and
every one In connection with Il that I was
going to work at such piece Of work on that
day. .Er
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was going 70 survey New Hampshire avenue?
A. Very well, sir; Icannot help that.
Q. Who pointed out the places for you to
surveyi A. I stated in my previous examina-
ton that had selected them myself
Y. Did you consult with anybody about III
A. Not consulted. / do not think consulted
with any one, but state, as stated before, .
great many suggestions were made 70 me-
many persons coming to me. cannot say who,
md Al haf has all
suggested 10 me, neither can say that any Of
them were not suggested TO me.
Q. Did you consult with Mr.. Cluss as to
what points 10 survey A. do not think
ever did until I made inquiry Of him for infor-
nation, profles, notes, and matters Of that
kind, Of course always consulted with him or
asked him for the facts.
Q. These last measurements that you made
how did you happen to strike upon these par
ticular streets, want to know this. Mr..
Cluss swears that the surveys that he and his
party made are absolutely correct. Now
want to know whether the measurements that
you made were hap-hazard and as liable to fall
on them for the purpose of testing their aecu-
racy. ! want to know how you got at these
particular streets, and why you did not happen
to measure more of Mr.. Barney's work to see
whether that was correct or not A. believe
that almost every piece of esrth-work that
measured-my recollection now Is that every
piece was work that Mr.. Barney had measured
Q. And you found these errors in Mr..
Barney's work. A. No, sir; Mr.. Barney's
notes generally were correct, but 1t would
seem-1 do not know-but it would seem that
the estimates and the vouchers for payments
to the contractors were not based upon the re-
suits to be obtained from Mr.. Barney's
measurements.
By Mr.. Stanton: o. Who made the certif-
catel A. Sometimes one, and sometimes
another; l have answered In my statement.
On Twelfth street the certiAcate-
Q. mean In cases where measurements were
made by Mr.. Barney, and his measurements
were not followed in settling with the contrac.
tor, whose engineers certificate was appended
to the vouchers In those casesl A. have given
them in my testimony. / cannot recollect
Sometimes Mr.. Forsyth, sometimes Mr.. Oertly,
and sometimes Mr.. Phillips, and sometimes Mr.
Barney: in those that are not correct, be-
lieve in some cases Mr.. Barney himself made
the certificates; do not recollect that. be-
lleve that did not measure single piece oil
earth-work upon which did not have more OF
less notes Of Mr.. Bsrney's, and generally full
notes, and the reason selected this was be-
cause did not-l beg your pardon, / did not
have any on Second street, as I stated in my
previous testimony-but the reason was that
did not like to undertake TO measure and give
definite results, unless could find some notes
upon which could base them; therefore,
sought those notes, and preferred to select those
works upon which could get notes.
By Mr.. Stewart: Q. Ny object In inquirine
Is to see how far your surveys 20 to the testing
Of the whole work of the city. These last thai
you made, that you brought in, who made the
surveys and estimates upon which payments
were madei 4. On Twelfth street I was fur.
nished with complete notes by Mr.. Barney.
suppose he did not take them personally. Some
Of his assistants took them, but they were fur
nished to me by him; but the estimate upon
which the payment 10 made to the contractor
Is, II ] recollect right, signed by Mr.. Forsyth
and It does not appear to have had, and In the
making of II there does not appear to have
been, any reference had
Q. Was there final payment made by Mr.
Forsyth A. 1 think SOL cannot answer that
certainly.
@. Who certified to the final payment on
Twelfth street, A. think IL was Mr.. For.
syth; that Is my recollection. have copy Of
the voucher In my room; haven't 1t here.
l. Q. would like to see that voucheri A. ]
received that copy on application to Mr.. John
son. That was from 7 TO P on Twelfth street
Mr.. Barney has placed in my hand notes o
Twelfth street. do not know that they arr
Of any consequence particularly.
BY Mr.. Stewart: Q. If Mr.. Barney made thu
sanoS.s -. .,sed AZ =, ~ " T anu nna
want to lnow n ihst /. tSs ,cti HAT :.
~ -,coiIaat,o h,,t I,o,,Id -a,h.r g. - ~
ny .s'oneo'ion' ou' "ouiH iAsn't isief W 'n'
pr. Sse Tsas VII n IsI ~. snas PapeI.
I think Mr.. Same said yesterday that you only
Scot, .o,,ara wh,Ia he rosssrraS .so,,nS ~
sntsra sduara That bs rnoasIra5 Ia s sns
~, ths Iast sids H. vo,, raros-ohar 1870,
o -, s ,o.asr.ad tho 800. -, AZ -, s,daS
( cannot stste that witbout rsSsr,in@ n nv
dstaiisd nonsr. ~
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6y Mr: osewart: Y. tninA ne orphaned II
oeiore, tnat ING sewer on tne "ess sloe was an
oIo sewer, anu you Sit no. men.ion tnst iol
snat LessonI a, inss ny reconecSion.
90 not ememoeTLmsyoe dia;
MT. stewart. IaaSs my recolection OF youi
sess,nony.
Inc witness. VIII just say THIS: that nave
my measurements In detail, In the most minute
manner from top TO bottom, and they are open
to anybody who wants to look at them, don't
care who. l cannot answer that question a'
the present moment.
By Mr.. Matsfngly: O. You reported largs
discrepancy on Second street in the grading
Was any member OF the engineer corps or the
Board Of Public Works with you when you
measured that street, A. No, sir. -
Q. understood you TO say the other day
that Mr.. Henry .. Davis was with youf A. HI
was.
Q.The voucher you remember, suppose, II