New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-03-26

been , mhf hopes s snst re.nf. the plymouth
Church thought it well TO have stood side by side
Churches of the land 10 come hither 10 SEEK 10 SLOW
them the way OF wn gI p ahd have made it mutual
council the technical sense SO their deennng 70 u9
| so cannot make II pdrfe council In any sense
submit further that view OF the case precludes all
Necessity of inquiry to any minor anu suporoihau
asked and what refused by either church Interesting
| in itself and having its own Importance as revsans
result t. impair the right body to assemble and
act That right Is onnd IN n the q, and
IN the action the churches invited by IL III response
ported Itself tins Council has by congregational prinei-
ple and usage a fixed. inconestible and perfectly o-
IN" work before IT, as set forth points of the Let
ter Misstye which has created ana winch m"S' 'o"'o'
MR. BARsTow's OBJECTIONS.
Mr. Barstow--I shall move before SIT down 10 strlKo
out so much Of this resolution declares that this Con
ell is neither mutual er parte council so as to
make the resolution read
Rd Judgment Of this body this an syorI eoan,
ell rr,ry called in accordance win the provisions on The ho,01
Coane o. sSo ana u he t. ana no. ready to pro-
coed VI the work which is presented to IT,
one OF my reasons for this motion is that We have no
authority TO pass this resolution. These churches IN
vited churches here convened To meet ana advise
them upon points, and the churchrs consented 10
meet these churches and advise them. These delegates
are authorized to give advice upon those points ana no
upon any other points. IL has been sad 10y Or D,Ner
tbat we want 10 settle this question and forever
We have authority 10 settle any questions once anu
Another reason my motion that II IL not expedent
to use the original resolution in this case The requests
presented in Letter Missve delicate enough GER
ainly and are numerous enough to keep here quite
0ns as we st Thou Ts% their come
here to Try to make peace between heghD1 2
| less we have peace and harmony among ourselves. a
question Ike this cannot be introduced. but 1t may be
decided to preserve harmony among ourselves, IN, my
is that the resolution IN Itself Is not true
That is opinion about IT, MY OPINION ~ t nav
this parte council lam sorry 70 ulner Win tao
| reverend gentleman, whom l SO highly esteem as 90
the pastor Offering THIS and the Soderator G so
Gil for hold them IN esteem amounting almost " fom
GRAFTON, do differ with them on TINS point IL 10
advisory. Some so far as to say that inc ooudt can
only advise. / suppose a council Will do what u IS IN
vited to by the Letter Mssiye that questions may
be submitted to the council iof doolslol out mn1n
oaed to advise all they can 40 Is 10 give adice 10 10
| tual council called by churches then there
| could be an pdrte council called by church. ~
out of grievances between individual members In local
church. but what is church but congregation OF mem
church. and the desires aud the other declines
mutual conference. why cannot church or enurenes
call an fr Ddr.e council to advise them In these matters
OF difference If is said because hey nave no po"ero OF
authority; neither has any Ctner eonGn En p iht th
resolution will fail but desire very nuch that at an
this part Of 1t SHAH DC pt this Is not am sf pSre
counc will be conentei II not shall vote that inc
fnnn 70 decide great question submitted u.s.
ana one fear had III the assembling or TINS Couhc!
Mr. Moderator that attempt might be made TO
create more camors OF ecclesiastical law. believe ali
power resides in local Judge; all power In the Cnurcn
OF Christ resides there. aud council Is simply an agent
OF the Church, having authority over the churche
having authority to create law for tho Churches ana
II Dr. Omit moved that the subject be laid upon the
table, while the committee tbat had Dceh 10 fy uou'u
| Church made their report.
THE FIRST WORD FROM PLYMOUTH CHURCH
Professor Smy th-The Committee Will report that we
waited this morning. in accordance with tho iinstruc
tons VI the Council, upon Plymouth Church, anu were
received gin accordance, understand it, with the
nnnHIa faH
once 10 the church assembled, were invited upon the
platform. and requested present communication
and address the church. We presented the resolution
adopted last night by the Council, and ACCOMPANIED IL
win a few words EXPIRE OF the sentiment AS ex
pressed believe ali OF the members OF the Council
who took part in the discussion last evening and 10y
their vote We listened to with courtesy, and i'm
mcdiatcly upon the conclusion OF our COMMUNICATION
motion introduced by the pastor OF Plymouth
Church. which was passed aud Is nov IN tde andT Os
scribe then read resolution passed by Plymouth
Church, in which the courteous invitation was
pS I Psf6 hgn FsPy b
Mr. Bartlett of Psheld-It is very important that We
that understand ITS nature IN order 1nft we may pPo
ceed mtegent nave listened Wl'n h wery he Sas
not followed out these councils TO their end. am
willing TO admit that there Is difference between an
er paIte council aud an advisory council though all
Councils are advisory, ana nothing more
An tr pare council IL advisory. an ecceslastical coun
ell is advisory 1t has authority except to advise
There difference In the occasion OF this Council ana
n src saek Of IL TWO parties on the one side plymouth
church on the other the two churches calling this Coun
o npon calling mutual council One Of those
ties then calls council. An er pare council Is coun
| that it rofers simply TO the local church
and not TO al IN Simply arSGar
addition to his own WORK Ho states s tnat
mutual council is one in me calling OF WHEN c al
sought unite eI pdr council Is one mat is caeu oy
Of those churches These TWO n ore ohs 90
further order to designate the difference between this
Council which should have been called by these
council II you choose There certainly Is distinction
between this Council called by one party and council
which might have been called by those three churcses
IT, them decide that there is this differences differ
e aese and '' one party only calling it, We must
get some term that Will designate us we
bv these three churches. We been called by
party. We are therefore, an er pare advisory council
lar about the fact Now it seems to that we have
little too much Of the preparedness. Dr. Dexter III ms
out OF the Bible and common sense We are told the
same this platform of 'e6-tbat the Holy Scriptures
and especially scriptures OF the New Testament
the only authoritative rule for the constitution aud ad
mnistraton OF church government We are not depend
ent upon councils and manuals. We are to
go back TO the Bible and common sense Common sense
has called this Council IT, therefore parte
ell you choose 10 call 30, 1t an or park advisory
The Moderator-There is an ambiguity in the phrase
er pare An erparl council is technical phrase In the
of the churches OF the manuals
Of Congregational Church politics. DR.. Dexter has de-
the meaning OF the word IN that technical USE Ef
man wants deposition to be used suit, and II he
get other party TO be present In person or by
attorney the deposition Is taken that becomes an
ex park proceeding his part The word Is constantly
used and In that way and In loose sense OF H. All hs
| sense in which the rules laid down in manuals apply
To er parte councils this Is not an er pdre council APP
prehend suggest this for the benefit OF the proIher
The Rev MI Bartlett asked tbs Moderator to define
distinction between council called merely by three
l,.,, ohaaa and nna ~ ia ca ed