National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-08

Bgsrd OF Public orss or one Of ~ oss ny the
Iali and separate accounts Of the collections from
used In payment Of the cost OF the construciioo
AND completion Of the respective sewers autbor
NAV Be- received from nrp, tnat the same
seWersecttons as established by this act: Propfdrd
the contractor contractors for the erection
.. any 81 said sewers may receive the certiheatea
Of Indebtedness hereby authorized to Re Issued AZ
PSF and In full satisfaction to the sxtt ut to which
ms same may be taken or reeeiveI by them, Of
structlon Of said sewers.
Sec. Isl 10. And Be q Further enact I'd, That in
view or the emergency arising from the necessity
o. an immediate and thorough sewerage in the
eittes Of Washington and Georgetown, and for tho
.truction thereof, this act shall take effect imme
diateiy upon Its approval by the Governor.
by the Chairman Q. Is that your original
bill with amendmentsl A. Yes, sir; the
original amendments made in the committee Of
the House. have clearly indicated the amend
ments In pencil marks. The first amendment
IN nne 8, page 2, was upon failure to pay any
OF the subsequent installments hereinafter speci-
fed, they shall also issue like certiacates.f
ASH was hrst reported It did not provide for
any period at which the subsequent INSTALL
ments were issued. The amendment that was
passed related exclusively to the period at
which the subsequent instaIlment should be
/ issued. The additional amendments we're
| those. Before 1t came back tt provided for
issuing them within two years. It was
amended 20 as to make it three, four or i've
years. ..----.....-.
Another amendment was merely verbal at
the, end Of the bill; .may receive certificates Of
| Indebtedness"
By Mr.. Stewart: Q. Was Il amended with
regard to the division into districtsl A. Not
when it came back. It was when 1t went to the
Committee on Drainage ard during its progress
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By Mr.. Thurman: Q. What Office did you
hold N az he fr,o rad thia hil1o
A. was attorney of the District OF Colum-
oia and attorney of the Board of Public Works.
| Y. ~ whom were you requested to prepare
the btli A. By the Legislature; BY the then
GoVernor, especially. =
Q. When you say by the Legislature, do you
mean that formal resolution was passed. A.
No, sir.
| Q. You mean that you were requested by
members Of the Legislaturel A. They IRE
quently did that
Q. Do understand you that the bill as it
finally passed preserved the districts Just az
they were In the original 4. No, sir, l stated
to the contrary, that they were modified In thu
committee to some extent, and perhaps slightly
Houses.
Q. Were they modified to any considerable
degree or changed to any considerable degreea
A. Not to any essential degree. They were
changed TO some extent. don't know ex-
sctly to what extent.
Q. Who suggested to you, If anybody, what
should be the districts in this billi A. The
chief suggestions came to me from the then
Governor, so far as remember.
Q. That was Mr.. Henry D. Cooked A. Yes,
| sir. o.
| Q. Did Henry D. Cooke tell you how to
divide this District of Columbia into sewerage
districts In that bill which you drew upl a.
No, sir. can tell you how that was exactly.
Q. Well, want to know exactly how 1t was
that you came TO frame that district into
sewerage districts In the bill which YOU first
drewf A. The question of sewerage had been
q question generally discussed, and It was
finally determined to sectionslize in reference
to the geographical conformation of the entire
district Tor the purpose of drainage.
Q. You say 1t was finally determined; what
do you mean by thstl 4. Precisely what
say, that the result Of the various desultory
conversations ended in that determination.
Q. Consultations with whoml A. With occa-
sional members Of the Legislature and Gov
ernor.
Q. Now name any of the members of the
Legislature, whose names you can recollect,
that you had any consultation with about the
preparation Of that bill! A. Peter Campbell,
the speaker, was one with whom had CONVEX
sation.
Q. Go on and name all of those that you
can recollect before you commenced drawing
that billl A. Possibly with General Dyer,
though I do not remember distinctly, and
others whom cannot remember.
| Q. You cannot remember the names, then,
of any but Peter Campbelll A. remember
those names pretty distinctly.
Q. And no othersl A. Not distinctly, be-
cause the fact
Q. Can you fndistinctly recollect any Of
theml A. Yes, sir; remember, indistinctly,
that nearly all the members Of the Legislature,
whenever any important subject was up, spoke
in relation to It, and asked me what thought
about IL, and what was best to be done.
Q. Do you recoIlect iindistinctly that most of
the members of the Legislature spoke to you as
to what should be the division into the sewer
age districtsi A. No, sir; perhaps few if any.
Charles Hulse did to some extent.
Q. What members, If any, of the Board of
Public Works, spoke to you on the subject Of
how the District of Columbia should be divided
into sewerage DISTRICTS A. They may have all,
at one time o. another spoken to me in relation
to It.
Q. Certainly they may have done SO; it is
quite possible if they were there; but did they
do itl A. The presumption is that they did do
it.
Q. I did not ask you for your presumption,
but ask you for your memory A. That pre-
sumption is based upon memory.
Q. Just answer distinctly, do you pretend to
be In doubt as to whether they spoke to you
about it? A. stated distinctly that the pre-
sumption was based upon my memory.
Q. don't ask you again, sir, for presump-
tons; you are lawyer and you ought to know.
l ask you, do you say that you cannot recOllect
whether you were spoken to or notl A. Chang
ing the form Of the expression, say that my
memory tells me distinctly that was.
Q. Name by whoml a. By each member
probably of the board.
Q. Have you any recollection Of any CONVEX
satlon with membersi Can you not, sir, tell
time, place, and persons with whom you
talkedl A. 1 cannot time; 1 cannot tell dis
tfnctlv the place; can tell the persons.
Q. You cannot tell time or place distinctly,
but you can tell the persons. Now name the
spoke to you on the subject of drafting that
bllll A. Occasionally, once or twice, Cover
nor Cooke-three or four, times, probably; once
or twice the present Governor; occasionally
Colonel Magruder.
O. Proceed A. MY recollection is not dis
tinct, but think Mr.. Brown and Mr.. Cluss.
Q. Do you recollect any othersl A. That
completes the list.
Q. Did any person outside of the board speak
to you on the subject of what should be the
sewerage districtsl
The Witness. In the preparation of the bflIl
Q. Before you began the preparation of the
billl A. No, sir.
Q. While you were preparing Il did theyl A.
No, sir.
Q. While it was pending did theya A While
Il was pending various persons, citizens, inter
rogated me in relation to q bill of this char
acter.
Q. Where did you draw that bin A. drew
It IN the office Of the district attorney of the
District of Columbia.
Q. Who was present when you were drawing
it, A. was.
Q. suppose you were. Is that all the an
swer you have to give on thati A. There was
no other human being present when drew IL,
so far as remember.
Q. You drew it from first to last, then, with
out anybody present but YOURSELF A. drew
it from first to last in its rough, original sketch,
without any person being present.
Q. How long after you completed your first
draught of that bill was It before the bill was
introduced in the House 70 Delegates A. I'M
mediately.
Q. What do you mean by that-the same
day, or the next dayi A. The same day. No;
it may have been two days afterward. had
afterward copy made.
Q. That Is, after you had made your rough
draught you had q copy written out in fair
hsndi A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you show that draught which you had
prepared, or that copy which you had made, TO
any person before you handed L to the member
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