The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-03-30

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temperance advocate present. delying him TO
show where there was one passage IN me Bible
bim-forbidding the use OF wine, IRON the first
book OF Genesis To the last book OF the Revela-
tlons.'
Dr. Lawrence then quoted several passages from
the Bible wnleh only had negative tendency, and
A yolcE-How about the wine at the marriage
at Cana
Dr. LAwRENCE-It was not fermented wine, and
wine Is not red until 1t rs iermented. Fermenta-
ton is rottenness, and rottenness should not be
taken into the body.
A VoICE-Well, them ii was no miracle If 1t was
not iermented. (Cheers.)
Al this stage some unknown young man of small
frame arose in the audience and attempted
speak, but tue clamor was 50 great tnat he could
not be heard.
! HARRY HnL-Come up, Johnny ON the stage.
He Is good temperance man, he Is. Come up
and take it.
REpoRrER-wno is the young man, Harry
HAIRY HILL-Oh, he's some likely lad from
BruInmagem. don't know what his name Is, but
he breaches at seven stone ten. (Laughter.l
After some further remarks the prayer meeting
and revival were adjourned by Harry Hlll, who
informed The audience that another meeting would
be held on sunday evening next
The possibility Of a yse,c issue OF ifconueytible
paper regard lrith amazen.ent ana anraety ana,
II, my j,tdgrnent such an issue acould be den'i-
Dlelat and a sh0me.-CHARLEs SUMNER.
Mass Meeting Last Evening at Rev. DR..
MOrrOEh's Church-Arch bishOp Purcell,
OF Cincinnati, and His Critics-Very
Rev. Dean Byrne, President of the Ma
tiOnal Union, ON the ArchbishOp's
| Position.
Last evening a crowded public meeting in be-
half OF total abstinence was held by the Catholics
OF The immaculate Conception parish in the
Church Hall, Fifteenth street, near avenue b, I'M
der the auspices of the Immaculate Conception
Total Abstinence Society, of which Rev. DR.. Nor
rogh Is President The large hall was packed
upon the occasion. MIR. James w. O'Brien, Secre-
tary OF the Catholic Total Abstinence Union OF
America, was the speaker Of the evening. He
said the position OF the Catholic body on the tenn
perance question had been misunderstood,
and Archbishop Purcell had been attacked by the
more 1anaIical agltators for his letter recently
published in the HERALD That letter Is true
total abstinence document, and the Arcnbishops
critics were not doing as much for the cause as
that venerable prelate, The Very Rev. Dean
Byrne, President OF the Catholic Total Abstinence
Union, divine who stood at the head OF the Cath
Ole teetotalers OF the country, and who held That
the pledge excluded not only wine, but all sorts
OF beers a beverage, had Just sent to tine
speaker, secretary OF the Union this city,
an emphatic reply to the falaees Of those who
ran into extremes on this matter. This letter had
been sent In response to the inquiries OF a large
numoer OF societies. The principal points are as
fonows:-
PRESIDENT BYRNE's POSITION
TRENTON. n. j., March 2s, 1874.
Your note is received regarding the uniaVOrable
comments Archbishop Purceil's temperance
document by persons VINO say 1t VIII inJure the
total Abstinence cause. In my humole opinion
there need be no lear. Tue truth never does an
| injury, and Archbishop Purcell has spoken only
the TRUTH lie simply sets himself against the eX-
aLgerdtIOns Of parules, VINO, like some Of the Old
| heretlcs long since condemned by the Church,
would declare WINE eyil and thus implicitly assail
the institution OF Jesus Christ and the continuous
usage Oh the Catholic Church. winch holds the pure
VINE OF the grape TO be the proper matter Tor the
FhriG tnn tina Whnf Inf has chr fnrs
rlhce de does not forbid to be used III moderation
But, while tne Archbishop maintains this truth, he
does not say that total abstinence Is not
useful and some times necessary. Nor does
say that the moderate use OF VINE and
other stimulating drinks Is 50 universal in the
word tnat there Is no need o! lnterierlng with
'tae drinking habits OF society," On the contrary
he says tlat he sympathiZes with the OBJECT, Ii not
with tue means adopted by the crusaders against
/ lntemperance that he expressed oftentlmes the
TACT tnat not one oi his mock was low, dsre-
puaoe saloon Keeper, and That or ten years he mas
been ana Is d tOtai abstalner. How, tnen, can His
nenceS Does ne not admit that moderation Is no
longer pracused; that the grogseilers are not up
rignt aud honorable and that total abstinence is
necessary or at least required to stem the torrent
/ OF lntenperance which Is iDundatmg the worldl
This Is just what we all believe. A fearful expert
/ ence SHOWS US that moderation Is the exception
and that excess is the rule in the use OF stimulating
drinks The hdeous spectacles presented day ana
nlght, IN ana around the ogaeries, prove how lar
tneir owners departed from ali right, principle
conception OF moral obligation. And the results
/ OF the preaching OF moderation. in increased IN
temperance, convince us That an additional remedy
must be invented to save society from ruin. Like
/ the Archbishop AIN persuaded that the remedy
Is not IN closing the groggeries-an Impossible
task as long as there Will be d demand Tor what
they contain Seli-deaial In preaching and prac.
tlce Is the remedy Tor this Tor all other wees.
/ The Archbishop has given us the example OF both
| ln has sermons and daily Practice Let us, who are
appointed to preach, speak all the more earnestly
OF this evll as Its ravages are more ri2ntiul, and
let Us add the practice OF total abstinence the
preaching as a reparatop to COD Tor the excuses
oil Others ana as an 1nducement to our fellow
lures 10 guard against the dreadful abyss
winch Is engulfing SO many. THIS never
has been ana never viii opposed by
the Church or its bishops; nor does Arch.
bishop lurcel attempt IN tins letter TO withdraw
either from What he subscribed the Council of
Baltimore or 20 discourage the Catholic total ao-
liquor, but the extent of the abuse, which oblges
all men to raise barriers against the spread OF
tempe ance The evll OF the ABUSE is keenly felt
by Catholic and Protestant aud by none more than
by tine Archbishop. Total abstinence he has
counted sovereign remedy against this abuse
anu tlat the total abs Thence should not be con-
fined to the drunkards he himself is example
he IS an aosta.ner Tor edlhcas13n although always
President Catholic Total Abstinence Union Of
Tnis letter of Archbishop Purcelrs takng Dean
! Byrnes mastery review tnere0D has sounded a
Keynote which causes great enthusiasm among
the Catholic abstaners, and his stand is 10 he
maintained IN ali the states by the Catholic
cietles and unions.
The possfbtltty Of q netc issue Of iiconrerttble
paper / regard octth amdzeJnent and anriety, ana,
IN rny jdtdgDe1lt, such issue ,rOuJd be detJi
naer.t ana q s1ane.-CHARLEs SUMNER.
Temperance Meeting in the Forsyth
street Methodist Episcopal Church.
The Ladies 10 Join in the Crusade-NIrs.
wilson's Views tho Subject.
One OF the most successful meetings OF the tenn
perance campaign was held yesterday afternoon in
the Forsyth street Methodist Episcopal church.
The ladies' of the congregation have organized
N. Of
the Western movement, and with the most graft
Tying success. Dr. Dio Lewis expected to
address the meeting; but, 80 far from his absence
nneratlnQ 10 canse Ii to be q failure. the exact