Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1874-07-29
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THE BROOKL1N BUSINESS.
More interviewing.
oliver Johnson Says Carpenter Was n
Volunteer Meddier.

NEW YORK, July 29.-In the Argus repor,
published yesterday OF the interview with with
u. L. Carpenter the following occurred:
WHAT CARPESTKR SAID.
Reporter.-"Mr. johnson stated before the
committee that Triton never in conversation
With him accused Beecher of crimiaality. Did
Johnson ever intimate to you that Tilton
Mr.. Carpenter.-"Hs has. johnson and nv
self, as friends of T1ton, have frequently
taked over this matter. had reason TO con-
s der johnson Mr.. Titon's most intimate friend
nextto Mr.. Moulton. MIR. johnson and m yself
often conversed about Mr.. Tilton with a mutual
interest and sympathy for him. johnson gave
me my first absolute conviction that there was
something criminally wrong between Beecher
and Mrs. Tilton. johnson directly told me
Hilton had charged adultery between Beecher
and Mrs. TltoR. This staten snt was made TO
me in July, 1873, at the foot OF the stairs lead
ing to the office Of the Christids JIlioH."
WHAT JOHNSON SAYS.
Tribune reporter called upon Oliver John
son last evening and showed him the statement
OF Carpenter. Johneon read the statement of
the following CONVEX. alton ensued: Do you
know anything of Carpenters connection
with the scandal and the time when il began?
Ans.-Yes. 1t began long before the time be
as early think at the latter part of 1871 or the
beginning OF 1872. He was a volunteer msddler
and partisan of Tilton, and heard his gossip
ing in various quarters on the subject. He says
he was first brought actively into the case by
Beecher, but he has been actively in il for at
least year before the time he names ami
about the city talking to people on the subject.
He has done more think than any other man.
save linton himself, TO foster and propagate the
ssa shI S ana mas drSm Iae rst been partisan,
leading himself TO plans devised by the latter
to keep the scandal from dying out"
MR.. JoHNsoN's DENIAL.
QuestoIl.-"Did you say in testim ony before
the committee that Tilton had never in CONVEX
sation with You accused Mrs. Tilton of aaul-
tery?' Answer.-"I did not; was not interro-
gated as fba iafa .
testimony must show. 1 was asked enly TO say
what offence Tilton charged Beecher with in
his inte-yiew with Bowen December %, 1870,
and sail he simply charged him on that occa-
sion with having made improper advances to
his wife, which she resisted. On other occa-
sions he used Language which / understood to
imply something worse than this, but I do not
remember that he ever used the word 'adul-
terry He told me he had forgiven Beecher and
sealed his forgiveness with kiss, and yet now
AID then he spoke of Beecher to me in the
most opprobrcus language, calling him more
than once damned Scoundrel eyincing fright
full bitterness and mslignity. He told me 50
many different and contradictory stories of the
offence as TO awaken q strong suspicion in nv
mind at times that he was either crazy or that
the scandal bad little or no foundation.
IfltOn's Trial for Libel.
A CROWDED COURT ROOM, OF COURSE.
NEW YORK, July 2g.-The third district court
room, Brooklyn, was crowded with visitors this
morning from an early hour in anticipation of
the trial OF Theodore Triton on the charges of
elpreferred by Frank GsYnor Tilton entered
the court room shortly after ten o'clock, fol-
lowed by large crowd of expectant parties. AS
there were numbers of small cases occupyinr
the court, Tilton was taken in Justice Riley's
private room, where he awaited the calling OF
his case. Gaynor was present from sB early hour.
TILTOS DEMANDS A PUBLIC TRIAL.
About half-past II Justice Riley called Mr..
Gsynor and asked him 70 step into the room
where Tilton was. and itwas thought the ex.
animation would be conducted in the private
room. Tilton objected 10 having the examine
uoh private, and demanded a public hearing,
which was ultimately ssSented to. Tilton Wa
seated by his counsel, eK-Judge Norris. Nj
Morris WIS asked BY the court il he had any
suggestions to make, and he replied thst he al
spoken to complainant about whether this case
Gaypor, and that he replied he took tue case
ENTIRELY ON his OWN RESPONSIBILITY.
Counsel argued that this case should not have
been called to satisfy the cravings OF public
scandal. He suggested that the matter stand
over until Monday, until he could take counsel
with the representative Of the people.
Mr.. Gaynor thought counsel was speaking in
ludlc,ously in stating that this action should not
be brought by him. He argued that defend ant
had violated one of the laws of the state, and 1t
was his duty as citizen to bring him into coart
70 answer FOR it. He thought he had q public
right TO bring Tilton here for preliminary ex-
animation, or If defendant chose The could let
ms case 60 before the grand jury. He had con-
suited no person; was urged to this BY no one
put only appeared as member OF the public
community.
Judge Morris submitted that there was no OBJ
Ject IN view by this prosecution, except
TO GAIN NoToRIRTY.
MIR. Gaynor wished to know If defendant
waived an examination or demanded a hearing,
as be wished TO summon Henry Ward Beecher
and some other witnesses for examination.
Judge Morris asked that the case be set down
Tor Monday next, as his client was not PREPARED
for examination, and besides counsel wished to
consult with the district attorney in relation 30
the matter
A PosTPoNKMENr.
onstlce hliey then, with the consent of both
q fba haa