New-York tribune., 1874-08-05
sation against youi A. never could do anything but

sooms to ma that he would be very glad TO bring me
into such state that would acknowledge some wrong;
all his influence his conversation was exerted III 'na'
drection he would talk Of the Bible; he read II ana
Thought OF IT, and he becoming persuaded ana was
making up his mind In regard to the life he was ABOUT
IN lead and he would ask again and again, "What
do you think about thisi Whosoever iooKeth upon
woman &C., really. friends, he was inorpiu on 'na'
subject: do not think he talked about anything
else: sought relief from II day and Dght assure you
he youd keep me awake till or o'clock In the morn
ing dscoursng of this particular subject; 1t came from
his giving up his religious faith altogether II was
breakdown.
Mr.. TILToN JEALOUS OF OTHERS BESIDE MR.
BEECHER.
9. In making those offensive allegations what did ne
say2 A. As often as any way he said, "You will not
deny that you have had criminal intercourse" and he
tried to rghten by saying that he had seen certain
things.
O. What things did he say he had scent A. remem'
Der that once he pretended he saw me sitting
in Mr. Beechers lap at home in the red chair IN the
parlor; In reply TO this said "iou didnt; 90 not
know what you, gentlemen will think, but you certainly
can see that such continual talk in and year out
would have its influence upon me; came to be really
quite indifferent except in regard to my anxiety about
him; it was q sort OF morbid Jealousy that he mad;
was worn out and sick with 1t.
O. Was it only in respect Mr. Beecher that he made
those accusations respect to other people asof A.
In respect 10 Mr.. Beecher only at that time; about
1870 believe. he began to think that had great adn
ration for several people beside Mr.. Beecher.
O. Did he hesitate TO mention namesi a. No, Sir, he
did not
O. How many different persons did he mentoni A.
Two or three gentleman acquaintances.
O. Did he ever make 70 you any charge accusation
even with respect Mr.. Beecher, naming any dehnte
time or place of any criminal aoti A Ohl no, never;
he never connected any time with 1t.
@. Did he ever pretend to you that you had peeh
guilty of any improperly with Mr.. Beecher at his Shr
Beecher's) housel A. No; he wondered why went
there on two or three occasions; went on errands;
attended Mr. Burgess great deal at the time OF his
death ne was poor mani. and went to Mr.. Beecher
two or three times to see him in regard 10 that man.
O. Did you ever meet Mr.. Beecher at other places by
app mentl A. Never at all not once.
O. Did Mr.. Tlton ever base any accusations against
you upon any admission which you had made 10 him.
either with respect to an event at Mr. BeecherS your
house or any other pace A. Yes he based an aeousa
ton against in his pubic statement upon an inter-
view which had with Mr.. Beecher my second-story
room, and deny it in my pubic statement
@ In any conversation with you at any time did ne
accuse you of any ongdong with Mr. Beecher based
upon any admission by youi A. No. Sir.
THE ALLEGED CONFESSION IN 1870 DENIED.
O. it that in July 1870. you confessed to your
husband any act or acts OF improperly with Mr.
Beecheri A. No
O. Did you admit to him any wrongs OF criminal nt-
macy with Mr.. Beecher at other placesi A. No, Sir
Q. Now please state what conversation occurred In
the Summer of 1870 along about the month OF july De-
tween you and your husband in relation to that sub
jecti A. Well. 1 said in my statement not that had
made a confession similar that which Catherine Gaunt
had made at any tme but that had said things In
many conversations out Of which there might have been
gathered up just such story reading Catherine
Gauuts up certain point, felt that she had told
O. You wrote letter TO your husband from Schoharie
had you that time read the life OF Catherine Gaunt
throughl A. No, had not had read the life of Cath
crime Gaunt certain point, and being touched very
strongly with it III regard myself sat down and
wrote this letter TO Theodore.
Mr. WinslOw-Hld you at that time any reference TO
adultery or thought of iti A. NO, Sir
O. What did you refer tol A will try to answer
that question: the one absorbing feeling OF my whole
life has been Theodore Tlton; neither Mr.. Beecher
assure you nor any human being has taken away
from that one fact, my love for him. but must say
that felt very great helpfuness in my own soul from
ha wing had friendship of Mr.. Beecher aud also Of
other people. as many women as men.
Mr.. Hl-YOu stated that in the Summer OF 1870
confession respect TO Catherine Gaunt ana
that you made 1t at no one time A. No; did not; l
think Theodore gathered from all our talks tnat
Summer that really found in Mr. Beecher what did
not nuu IN MIN, nc hhOWI EaNo ~ W nun
but often said. Theodore If you had given to me
what YOU give 10 Others, dare say should find in you
what 1 find in Mr.. Beecher"
@ In your Scnohare letter you spoke OF your sin :"
what did YOU mean 10y that A. Theodore's nature
being proud one felt reading that book that had
done him wrong, that had harmed him in taking any
one else in any way, although, looking it over do
think but that should do IL again, because IL mas
been so much to my soul
O. Taking any one else in what respect A. DO not
hink if had known as much as do now Of Ton that
should have encouraged Mr.. Beechers acquaint-
ance think l did wrong in dong 1t, nasmuch a. IL
hurt Theodore do not know as 1 can make myself
understood but do you know what mean when say
that was aroused in mysef-hat had self-assertion
which never knew before with Theodore there was
always a damper between me and Theodore, but there
mayer was between me and Mr.. Beecher with MI
Beecber had sort OF consciousness OF being more ne
appreciated me as Theodore did not; L felt myself
another woman felt that he respected me think
Theodore never saw in me what MI Beecher did
Mr. sage-Do you mean to say that Theodore put
down selrespect in you while Mr. Beecher lifted II up
A. Yes; never felt bit OF embarrassment with Mr.
Beecher, but TO this day never could sit down with
Theodore without beng selfconscious and feehng his
sense of my inequality with him.
JUST WHAT THE SIN WAS.
Mr. winslow-wln you state, in few words. what
WAS that sin which you spoke OF IN that etteri A. do
not think felt that it anything more than giving
TO another what was due TO my husbandthat which he
did not bring out however.
@. When you speak of what was due TO him, what do
YOU refer TOT A. Why. the all Of my nature do not
think feel great sin about II now.
BY Mr.. Hul-DO YOU mean that you thought you let
your affections, your regard your respect 90 out
for Mr. Beecher unduy, aud so censured yOursefl A:
No sir; do think felt that, because did
not think harmed Theodore in that; harmed him IN
MS pride by allowing one else 10 enter into my HE
at all think that was SIN.
O. When you speak Of your sin you do not mean TO be
understood as gong further than tnat a. No let
tell yOu a little Theodore. up TO that time, in his
accusations would often talk 10 me by the h0ur 10 snow
me the effect that he said he knew | carried about my
personal presence with gentlemen, and would become
nearly crazy my conscience; he would say that ie
knew there was no one who carried such an influence
as did: would say Theodore do not think that Is