National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-02

9. Did you 20 and solicit him 10 use MS IN
1uence to help get this contract A, No, sir
] never solicited and never asked him II he had
any influence.
O. Did You never ask him to do anything for
youi A. merely asked him If he knew any
thing, how the thing was progressing, after 3
meeting of the board, or something OF that
kind. lie knew nothing.
Q. Now, sir, you never spoke TO doferhoF
Z Shepherd asout this7 A. No, sir.
O. Nor to any member of the Board OF PUB
lie Works? A. do not know them, sir. was
introduced to Dir. Shepherd at Jersey Clty, ana
never had but few words conversation with
him.
what YOU were doing, were perpetrating very
great outrage Upon Mr.. ShepherG a. NO, sr.
A. Il never occurred TO you'll A. No, sir.
O, Did it never occur 10 you that, BY reason
of The relations that existed between Mr.. Shep-
herd and Mr.. Moore, that you were liable TO
place, and most likely to place, Governor Shep-
herd in a most unfortunate attitude before the
country! A. No, sir; It did not occur to me at
all. That pavement had been represented as
the finest pavement in the world; and they
would have made money, and II would have
been satisfactory.
Q. But here You were going to a man who
was intimately associated with Governor Shep-
herd. A. He was not partner of Governor
Shepherds then.
Q. But he was in his employ A. Yes, sir.
9. And he was man who occupied some
what conspicuous position In this community,
was be not. A. Yes, sir. r--
Q. lie had been the secretary Of Mr.. john
SOM A. Yes, sir.
Q. And he had occupied other prominent
positions in this community A. Certainly.
Q. A man well known here? Yes, sir.
Q. And he was there in Mr.. Shepherds en-
ploymentl A. Yes, sir.
Q. 1t never occurred to you by this operation
you might place him in an exceedingly false
position before the country A. No, sir; It did
not occur to me. / should never have injured
q hair OF his head.
@. Il never occurred to you that by this
operation you might do him the grossest injus
tice2 A. | should never have mentioned his
name if l had stayed here for SIX years.
9. But at the same time 1t was liable to be
mentioned by somebody else. You intended
TO come here, then, and either not mention his
name and tell this committee that 1t was not
true, or else you intended to refuse TO tell the
whole truJhl A. | should have avoided an
swering the question, sir.
Q. But when you are sworn you gre sworn
TO tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but Tie trUthl A. understand that, sir.
Q. llow did you expect to avoid that A. L
didn't intend to conc here to fnjure myself or
my friends.
Q. How did you expect to avoid that obliga-
.ticl that was resting upon you9 A. did mol
know what would be the questions.
q. We laS6 aSRSl you qlestlOllS utIC III lS-
gard to Mr.. MooTef A. lie has never been ben
Gifted by a cent of this money, and he has
bCcI very much injured Gs It is.
q. understand that, sir; and the probable
fly f that other men arc going to be very much
injured ny these thugs. These things meter
occurred 10 you! 4. No, sir; they did not.
By Mr.. Hubbcli: z. Did you not go to Mr..
Moore, after you had made this arrangement
with Mr.. Chittcnden, and tell him that you
wanted his help, and intimaied to him that If
he could help you along in 1t yeu would pay
him some part Of the proceeds of your con-
tracti Did you not give him an intimation
that You would A. do not think / did, sir.
He Gid not know what the transaction was be-
tween Chitt-nien and myself. He did not
know whether WIGS getting one or ffty cents.
Q. Did YOU rot tell him that you had got
good thing, and that you wanted him TO assist
you? A.. I did, and gave him the evidence of It.
Q. But before that, amer you made the ar
rangcment with Chltteuden, that you had got |
a good thing, that you wanted to get this con- |
tract awarded 20 DeGolyer s. Mcclellan, and
Tia: lie would not be a loser by Il II 1t was
awarded A. No, sir; do not think intimated
anTthing Of the kind. He is the last man in |
the world that should approach In that way,
/ think. |
G. Amer you came ba,:k from Chicago amer |
negotiating the first notes, did you not 90 TO |
Mr.. Moore and tell him that you had realized |
so much money, and agree or offer to divide |
with him and give him part of the money! "A. |
do not think ever Offered to divide any money |
with him q: all. offered to give him portion |
OF the notes. |
Q. Bat after that, when you found that you |
could not negotiate the notes, and went to |
Chicago and sold two Of the notes. A. That
&c. C0 is accounted for. 1
Q, But before you disposed Of 1t, did you not
go 10 Moore and say, "Here, have realized
S1O,CG9 or some sum on these notes, and will |
give you q part of itF' A. No, sir; do not re- |
member Of making any such proposition. |
Q. Did you not make any proposition to him
TO divide money with him that you had realized |
from those notes? A. told him that the /
s., 500 had been paid; that is the only money.
9. But after you had made q salel A. No,
sir; remember nothing of that kind.
G. The only thing you ever offered to do was |
70 give him half of the notes? a. Yes, if sold |
them IN New York, and deposited a portion of
1he proceeds. .. |
O.. To his credit A Yes, sir.
&. You took his signaturel A. Yes. sir.
Q. Now, at that time did you not give him |
G memorandum showing the number of notes |
and the amount a. / do not remember of
giving him any memorandum.
Q. Either with or without signaturel A. No, |
sir: 10 not remember anything of the kind. |
by Mr.. Bass: Q. When is Colyin Brown ex- |
peeled! A. think the middle of April.
O. What is he coming on; what do you ex- |
pecs him onl A. do not think he is com ng |
at all, he has made SO many promises.
Q. lie gave you TO understand that he Is |
Coming here about the middle of April. This |
is May now? A. The middle of April he told |
me. .-
BY the Chairman. Q. Did you not write |
letter 10 Mr.. Wilcox, dated about the 18Th of
April, from New York; A. think did, sir. /
Q. What did you mean when you said If yon |
did come here and testify that somebody would |
be hurt! A. do not remember making any /
such statement.
Q. Tread to you:
fiFricnd Wilcox: received your letter with |
slip from paper, yesterday. Thank you. /
presume l shall be compelled to put in an ap- |
pearance before the committee. Somebody |
will be sorry" |
What lid you mean by thau A. 1 expected |
would be sorry myself If / did.
Q. You meant then by that statement that |
you would be sorryl A. Ny wife, suppose, |
she is very much worried about it. q
O. You thought il important TO let Mr.. VIII |
cox know that your wife would be sorry, and |
instead of telling him 90, you told him that
''somebody would be sorryP A. Well, 1 con-
slider her somebody.
Q. Y0u meant your wife in that statement |
A. / think so, sir.
Q. You say 81 am perfecting scheme that |
will believe knock the legs from under a |
certain crowd" Did you mean your wife |
when you made that statement A. That has
reference TO some other matters entirely foreign
from this.
Q. Let me read this letter through:
NV YORK., April L, 1874.
FRIEND WILCOX: / received your letter, with
slip from paper, yesterday, and thank you.
presume shall be compelled to put in an ap- |
pearauce before the committee, but somebody |
will lie sorry. l Em psTiecttng q scheme that |
will, expect, knock the legs from under a GER |
tain crowd think Nice. made an ass OF himself. |
don't know what Chittenden will SPY; he, too, /
may dcvll0p his cars and so may YOUR humble !
. servant: You can't toll you know. oought the |
Sun, but Jailed 10 ind that interesting column de-
votcd daily to the board Of publicplundern Two /
very interesting editorials on the subject, how
ever. appear and will, In measure. satisfy the |
public o. this city for the loss Of tine Washington
letter. / am nowhere in particular and every |
where IN general. nowadays. otherwise no doubt, |
should have received their subpoena before now.
But will soon feel like rising 10 explain my pO-
sition. = spent Sunday at Greenbush. All very 1
well. / hope you are all WE'LL
You're, truly, KHTLAED.
To Hon. G. H. Wfleoz, Washington.
Q. Now, do you mean to say when you use this |
Language, 81 am perfecting scheme that will, |
think, knock the legs from under a certain
crowd !" that that had no reference to your
testimony before this committed A. No, sir.
N III A Nnua OF nil