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therei A. They have the difference between
the old grade of the canal and the present grade
of the street, and they knew what was to be put
in there, and all about 1t: and he has all those
figures himself-he and Mr. Samo together.
Q. You have not had anyf A. No, sir; MOI
one.
| O. You went out to Reservation IL with Mr.
Same and Mr. 0ertlyi A Oh, yes.
O. How did you get at the grading that had
been done on reservation r7i A. It was 60 Lit
tie there, as I find It reported by Mr.. Same,
/ that he must have cheated us there. He has
only four hundred yards where there ought 10
be eight or ten thousand, or probably more
Q. Then you think the Board of Public Works
has done eight or ten thousand yards of grad
ing theret A Yes, sir; that is my opinion
but they have not got it.
Q. How much of that Tagging was done by
the Board of Public Worksf A. cannot tell
you exactly, sir. That is q statement of ex-
actly what was done, and at the dates which
you viii find recorded there. Handing decu-
ment to Mr.. Wilson
Q. Who made this paperi A. That was made
out from my Office.
Q. By whomi A. The original was made
out by myself. had it copied by my clerk.
Q. Whenl A. Last Saturday, ! think 4
was.
Q. Where did you get the data from which
you made itl A. / got that data from the
vouchers where these quantities were to be
found. ..s
Q. Have you the vouchers with you'll A. !
have not.
Q. Where are theyl A. They are up IN the
Bank of the Metropolis. .H..-a-.
| Q. What are they doing therel A. They
are there, presume, with the sinking fund
commissioners. ..a
Q. What have the sinking fund commission
ers to do with themi A. do not know. There
is where / found these papers. / made no in
quiry about that. -.
Q. l want to know what the sinking-fund
commissioners had to do with the work done
by the Board of Public Works? A. Well, lean
not tell you that, sir.
Q. You say that this was done by the Board
of Public Worksl A. / say it was done at that
time-and whetherit was done for the board
! measured it.
Q. Hold on. a minute, Mr.. Forsyth; my
question was as to tagging done by the Board
of Public Works. Now, want to know what
the sinking fund commissioners are doing with
the vouchers for work done by the Board OF
Public Worksf A. That cannot tell you.
| Q. Do you not know, now, from the fact
that the sinking fund commissioners have
these vouchers, that this was not done by the
Board of Public Werksi A. I tell you that
that work was done at the dates then, and
made out the accounts so. ] knew nothing
about where they were paid, or how they were
paid, and never bothered about Il.
Q. These vouchers have fallen into the hands
of the sinking fund commissioners. Who gave
you access to these vouchersl A. went to
the auditor of the board to inquire of him II
such vouchers were In his possession, and he
said 'no." He told me they must be up there,
If they were to be found at all. / went up
there and found them. WANTED to be salts
fed about the dates, because knew the Board
of Public Works were in power at the time
and consequently that / made the measure
ments. 1t was to place myself right. -...
Q. Were these measurements made by you
at the time the work was donei A. Yes, sir.
Q. And the original vouchers are on file
there with the sinking-fund commissioners "A.
| Yes, sir.
Q. How much has been done by the Board
of Public Works since that time? A. Oh, that
is all the work that has been charged.
Q. That is all that there is of It? A. Yes,
sir; made that at the request of Mr.. Bass. He
requested that information and prepared that
for him.
Q. When were the cutters put INF A. They
were put in at the dates named there.
Q. Did you make any examination of the
vouchers to ascertain heE much gutter had
been put in there? A. The square yards Of
cobblestoDe show you.
Q. The amount for which you find vouchers
with the sinking-fu commissioners seems TO
be - ,5S4 square feetl A. Yes, sir.
Q. And then you say that the charge here on
square feet. When was the difference between
Il, 5S4 and II, 229 done? A. guess that must
have been done between 1868 and 1871.
Q. Did you find vouchers for thatl A. No,
sir.
Q. Where are the vouchers for that1 A.
They must be in the registers Office of the city.
Q. HaVe you seen any measurement of that
fagging7 1t takes 4.645 square feet to make
up the difference. How did you get that
measurement A. In the Government report.
We measured all the points that aredesignsted
there, and then have deducted from the Gov
eminent what was charged in those vouchers
that are in the sinking fund commissioner
possession.
Q. That is the way you got at it, A. That
is it, sir.
Q. In other words, you took this amount as
you found vouchers for this amount, and then
accounted for the difference by saying that the
old corporation had done it in 1868 and 1871?
A. Yes, sir; because all the original work for
the Government was from actual measure
ment.
Q. But that is the way you got at it in max
ing up this papers A. Yes, sir.
Q. How do, you know the old board had
done that work between 1868 and 1871 A.
The old corporation do you meant
Q. Yes, sir. A. KNEW that no other persons
did it.
Q. You know It was dopel A. I knew it was
done, and it was done by them.
@. What kind of Tagging is thati A. Six
teeninch tagging.
Q. How mush3 A. Sixteen inches in width,
and three feet long.
Q. Is it uniform in sizei A. Oh, no sir; IT is
irregular.
Q. Irregular fiaggingl A. It is irregular; in
Tie M he of 6tsaf aaf
probably.
Q. Is 1t sawed fsggingI A. It is what they
call sixteen-inch tagging.
Q. It is rough tagging, is it nos-quarriedi
A. Well, II is rather Sugh.
Q. It is lust as It came from the quarry,
roughi A. Yes, sir.
Q. How cid you get this price, sixty cents, to
the Governtlent-how did you get at thatl a,
That cannot tell you. That is the price,
think, that the board paid for that-that the
board pay fer stone of a similar character.
Q. Thst is the price that the board is now
paying for that kindl A. ] think so.
Q. But this had been done some time agol
A. Well, l think it was dearer then.
Q. Do you know what this tagging costs q
square footl A. can bring you the fnforma-
ton what it cost the corporation.
@. Do you know what 1t costs to deliver 1t
from the quarryl A. do not know anything
a5odt Il. ......-
Q. In all your engineering here, you never
ascertained what this tagging cost delivered in
Washington A. Never, sir.
Q. Do you know anything about what it
costs to JOLT it and lay IN A. ! do not.
By Mr.. Bass: Q. What were the duties for
which you were paidl A. l had to establish
the lines Of the streets; and had to make out
the assessments, and do any other work that
might be required or that had time 70 do.
By Mr.. Wilson: O. Do you know anything
about the character of the certificates that
were issued upon these assessments that you
make against the streets; certificates issued
against the property A. know nothing about
them.
Q. Do you know whether the certificates
that are issued against the property holders
correspond with the cost of the street, A.
knew nothing whatever about 1t.
By the Chairman: Q. wish to ask you, sir,
about matter that ! find here on my table
II relates to triangular space between NJ and
n streets north, and Connecticut avenue, and
Eighteenth street west. Do you know Of any
such spacel A. Yes, sir.
Q. find on page 406 of the Governors an
swer that the Government is charged with
81, 1881 for concrete pavement; do you know the
size of that spaced A. / know nothing about
the size; no, sir.
Q. Did you go with Mr.. Same to measure
this groundl / have, SIR.