The Wheeling daily register. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1864-1878, 1874-08-15

him, but that his association with W God
hull was fatal 10 him and l could not
make any head against it, and with re-
gard to the other Isaid to Elm that 1 had
been willing to help him materially and
that recently / paid $4,000 to him. i
Odd you see and have eonversa-
ton with Tilton soon after the payment
of the $1,000? A-On the Sunday morn
ing following the payment of the $1,000
1 was going to church in Warning, met
Mr.. Tilton standing right opposite the
house, he put his arm through mine and
was in his most beatifc mood,
and while walking along down to
church he was talking all the way
to me of grace, mercy and peace, and at
one time remember thinking that
$4,000 Was Very Notifying. ID.
BY Mr.. Cafin-Q-Did you at any
time receive the note which the commit
tee have in the evidence, reading as fol-
ows: III. w. .B.-Grace, mercy and
peace.-T. T-Sunday morning" A
Yes, he sent it on Sunday morning by his
wife, who had it laid ON my pulpit stand.
..By Mr.. Cleveland-Q-Of your mort
gage dated about May lst, 1873, the mon
ey of course was paid Moulton after your
mortgage was made? A-Yes, sir, l did
not keep the money an hour. | went
with it directly from the Mechanics Bank,
where l drew it, and put it into Moulton's
hands, on the same day and within few
hours.
Q-At his house? Al do not know.
Odd you have trouble with Tilton
during the latter part Of that month or be-
fore the 1st of January, 1873. Al do
not know the month in which l have not
had trouble with him, but he made a
special ovtburst at the end ofthe month of
May, 1873, on account of the publication
of the triportite agreement which led to
nv letter to MoultUn on June LIST, 1873. --
Q.-Here is letter dated May LIST
1874, in which Tilton refers to some story
of Carpenters about your offering
money. Did you receive that letter?
Al did, sir.
Itvas n Magnificent Humbug.
7 knew that Tilton knew that he had
been tinkling my gold in his pockets for
months and years and he wrote that let
ter to be published as sham and mask.
Q.-What did you understand by Car
penter's relations to the money matter?
Any first knowledge of Carpenter
was that he was putting his nose into this
business which did not concern him, and
that was also Moulton's impression. l
asked Moulton one day, "What under
the sun is Carpenter doing around here
meddling with this matter" He sum
marily damned h m, and l represented
him as a good-natured and well-meaning
busy body. l suggested why he didn't
tell him distinctly that his presence was
not wanted. He said, "Well he serves Us
some useful purposes. When We
hear of things going on in clubs or other
places in New York, We put Carpenter
on the track and he fetchcs all the ru-
mors, and so We use him to find out what
we could not otherwise, and did find
that he not only did that, but that Car
penter was one of these goOd-natured
men whose philanthrophy exhibited Itself
in trying to settle quarrels and difficult
ties by picking up everything he could
hear said by, for or against man and
carrying it to parties where it would do
the most harm. Possibly
He was q kind of Genial, GOOd-Natur-
ed Fool
and in all this matter he has been tool
more than ahelper. He has never once
done ANYTHING, in the whole of this mat
ter from beginning to end, that was not
u stupid blunder. | made up my mind
from the beginning that as | was silent
to everybody in this matter | would be
silent to him, Carpenter. | recollcct but
one interview with him that had any
positive significance. He came to see me
once when the council was i'll session and
our statement was published. There was
a phrase introduced into it that Tilton
thought pointed to him, and Tilton that
night was in bonfire flame, and walked
I'D and down the street with MoultOn.
! was in at Freeland's an d in comes Car
pentsr,
With His Dark Mysterious Eyes:
he sat down on the sofa and in Il kind Of
a sepulchral whisper told me of some
matter. Says l, That is all nonsense,
that meant - and = and Carpcn-
ter was rejoiccd to hear it, and then went
out. On another occasion he came to me
in a great glow of bencvolcncc; said there
Was to be a newspaper established in
New York, and that | was to take the
of it, and half a
million dollars was to be raised almost
by the tap of drnm. | was greatly
unused, but said to him gravcly, well,
if should ever leave the pull
pit think it very likely | should go into.
journalism. 1t would bemore natural for
me than anything else. That was the
of that conversation. One other
/ have some recollection of
in April, and that was when Moulton had
a plan on foot to buy the GGtdcH Age Oft
Tilton and send him to Europe, and Car
penter came in and talked with me about
IT, | recollect very distinctly that con-
sersation. Ny eyes were beginntngto be
my education was beginning
% tell on me little and | said To Mr..
Carpenter distinctly, "Mr. Carpenter,
hat is matter which | can have nothing
% do with. | don't know but that if
Elton wishes to go to Europe with his
amilv and live there for some time, that
his friends would be willing to raise that
AMOUNT of money; but that is a matter
you must talk with somebody else, and not
with me-"
Odd YOU say that if Tilton printed
lis documents you would never
Iscend that pulpit again? Al never !
aid that, and Ishould never talk about |
he thing to such weak man as hciS
A-Who introduced the subject Of your |.
,oing to Europe when Carpenter cam" to .
ee you? Ale did.
ON the statement you have made /
md the letters you have published you
xpress great agitation Of
sorrow and Suffering, even 10 An
guish.
low do YOU reconcile tibet with your pub
ic ministrations and the declarations of .
'eace and trust which have fallen from