National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-03

swear It is in my handwriting-the whole of IL.
Q. Did you not tell Columbus Alexander at
his house since this examination began that
! you had given q check to Cook and Brownei
A. might have told him that andI might not.
Q. For IS ,0O0 A. might have told him.
l went there merely to find out what he was
party that they had last year. Invent there ior
the purpose or getting out Of him what
could. "a
II Q. For the purpose of entrapping himf A:
No, sir; for the purpose Of seeing tney mao
the same gang Of men that they had last
winter, and saw you there, too lreferrtng 70
Mr.. Merrick. Yes, 1 was there, and have
been there very often, for that is the office
where we do business. .- ----
O. You say you might have tod him that
you gave this check for 81, 900, and that if you
did so it was for the purpose Of deceiving hint
4 Al did not deceive him. wanted to find out
what he was doing. was there twice.
il Q. Did you not admit In the presence Of Mr..
Mackall also that you drew that checki A. I
know MI. Mackall very well, and 1t is altogether
very likely / did, - yc--L--r ~1-
i q. Was that statement true or falsei A. I
was merely gassing at the time TO see what
they wanted. They had been at my place
great deal at different times, and wanted 70
4 give them their full. - - r..-E-. as-.
2. Are you casing nowl A. l an now
under oath. s-aa' 80 -- or 5000 ..l-t r.
O.. Is there any difference between your state
ments when made under oath and when not
under oathl A. / judge my oath is as good as
yours anywhere, and can prove It.
Mr.. Merrlck. We viii not discuss that ques-
ton now. ~ .--..r 70 ---- ..---- ---
4 A. am ready to do It any time, here or any
Il where else. -.. ... ..-. s--a
O. Did or did not Mr.. Cook render adecision in
your favor before he decided that Mr.. C. E.
Evans was entitled to receive $500 per square
yard outside of his contract price of $3.50, and
aid you or not pay him for that decisionl A.
Not one solitary cent did ever pay him for
that. 1913. ....1
o. What matter was It that he decided in
your favor as attorney A. I cannot tell
that he ever decided any thing in my favor.
Q. How many conversations have you had
with Mr.. Magruder touching this investigation
since 1t beganl A / think 1t is the first time
l have spoken to him since This investigation
eommenced-I mean when he was here to-
day. e. .--.r
o. Did you have conversation with him IN
front of the National Hotell A. Yes, sir; did
meet him and walked to the corner with him
and into Mr.. Dubant's. / never, however,
had any conversation on this business with him
there Here he Is; let him speak for himself.
! Q. lam asking your TO speak for yourself.
You are man whose oath ItsEfl do that.
Y CAL otO1htAIShs uO uOt pIOpOoc " hSh Hll1
anything else now. l have laid the founda-
ton. ...... ..
The Chairman. Look at this check Ihanding
check book to witness] and sec if that memo
rapdum about the note was made at the same
time that the other was made. A. 1t is the
same handwriting, but might have put it
down since that time.
O. What do YOU think about II? A. / think
the ink is paler than that; it appears so to me.
@. Do you think it was made at the same
! timel A. do not think 1t was by the looks Of
that, when come to look at 1t thoroughly. If
the honorable chairman wants me TO get the
note will go and get it. 1 think may be
mistaken in that. It is altogether likely. l
see there is a difference in the ink.
Q. Have you any recollection now of making
that memorandum afterwsrd upon this check
book A. might have made it q week after,
or might have made it a month afterward. l
have no recollection of it.
Q. Might not you have made It within very
short time-within very few daysi A. No,
Q. You are very clear upon that pointi A.
Yes, sir.
Q. You are clear it must have been made
within q week after the other! A. No, sir; 1t
might have been made month. have left
the note to be sued, and might have made it
month.
BY Mr. Merrick: ask that that note may be
produced, in order that We may compare the
date of the note.
Witness. will produce it.
The Chairman. You may bring in the note If
you please.
By the Chairman: Q. Have you not made that
memorandum since we asked for those check
books! A. No, sir; have not.
By Mr.. Jewett: Q. Are you the Strong who had
a couple of witnesses who testified here the
other day arrested for perjuryl A. Yes, sir.
Q. Had you any talk with any of the officers
who served the subpoena upon youl A. On
what subject
Q. On the subject of the subpoena A. 1 do
not recollect. know the officers very well
that served 1t. l went home after got the
warrants out.
Q. Did you explain to any one the reason
you did not appear here promptly in answer to
the subpoena A. l do not recollect that ever
said anything. know have been sick, very
sick. l am not well now.
Q. Did you say to any one, TO the officer, or
any other one, that you had on hand important
settlements that you wanted to make before
you came herea A. No, sir; not to my knowl-
edge; not at all.
By Mr. Wilson: Q. Who sent you to Column
bus Alexander A. 1 went there of my own
authority.
Q. Did anybody ask you to go, A. No,
| sir.
Q. Did anybody suggest to you that you had
better got A. No, sir. -....,,,.,-,
| Iyp A. 1 did. have been Connected with MI.
Alexander before in different matters. have
known Mr.. Alexander for great many years.
am an old acquaintance of his.
Q. Did you 90 and communicate to anybody |
your interviews with Mr.. Alexander A. +
think l told Mr.. C. L. Cunningham.
Q. Did you communicate to anybody elsei
A. 1 think did TO Mr.. Rockyfellow.
Q. To anybody elsea A. do not remem-
Der.
9. Do you say you cannot remember whether |
you communicated that to anybody elsef A. |
might have told Mr.. Boyd and told fifty people |
Of it; l do not know.
Q. Did you tell Mr.. Magruderl A. Not to
my recollection. He is here, and he can an
swer. l cannot remember.
Q. Do you remember that you did not tell |
himl A. do not remember that / did. He is /
here.
Q. Do you remember that you did notl A. 1
do not remember that did.
Q. Do you remember that you did not7 A.
have no recollection of doing it.
Q. Do you remember you did not tell Mr..
Magrudera A. say l may have told him. If
be says so, it is so. have no recollection. My
memory is not as good as it was some years
ago.
Q. Did you tell Governor Shepherd A. No,
sir; not to my remembrance. 1 cannot say
whether did or not; may have told him or
may not.
Q. What is your best impression as to
whether you told Governor Shepherd of your
interview with Mr.. Alexander A. might
have told him; 1 cannot say whether did or
not.
Q. What is your best impression as to
whether you did or notl A. Well, sir, he is
here. and If he saws So
Q. What is your best impression as to
whether you did or did not tell Governor Shop
herdi A. think 1t is likely that might have
told him.
BY Mr.. Jewett: Q. That is your best impress
sion nowl A. Yes, sir; but he never told me
to go there, or to have anything to do with
him.
By Mr.. Mattingly: Q. When was that inter-
view with Alexander A. That I cannot tell
you.
By Mr.. Harrington: Q. You say you are in.
litigation with the Board of Public Worksi A.
Yes, sir. I
Q. What amount is involved A. Ny attor-
ney knows better than do.
Q. What do you claimi A. have offered to
leave It to arbitration two or three times. Gen.
ersl Totten has written to the board about it;
/ do not know the amount.
Q. am not asking you about that; I want
to know the amount you claim in that suit;
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