Vermont watchman and State journal. [volume] (Montpelier, Vt.) 1836-1883, 1874-11-25
HOUSE


that m the Judgment Of this House. n stringent
license law is better calculated 10 promote the
cause Of temperance, and abatc the evils of In.
iempennce, than our present Intellectual prohibit
tion statute
MIR NORTON said he hoped that in the vote
upon this rosoluton-and he should ask for the
yeas nild nays-the members of this House whose
convictions Of right In this matter cuincidcd with
his own, would express such convictions regard
less ot policy would be candid and act On the
floor of the House ~ the yact othcrwheres lie
asked members now to vote ~ they take their
drinks when out VI the Housc--taight
On motion of Mr. MARTIN, Of Londonderry the
resolution WAS ordered 10 lie ON the table
Mr fAlRMAN, Of Wolcott moved to reconsider
the vote Of Yesterday refusing the passage Of the
joint resolution t0 extend the session beyOnd to-
morruw morning. and after considerable discus
sion 10y MI iarmai, Mr. Guild. MIR Abel, Mr..
Mcladden, Mr Dana, MIR. lynde, Mr Bailey of
fairhayen, Mr.. bartholomew, and a statement of
the condition Of the business by the Speaker, Mir
Smalley OF burlington, moved that the motion 10
reconsider be ordered to lie until afternoon, to
see what progress we are able TO make with the
business, which was disagreed to.
The motion to reconsider was further discussed
By MI. Davenport, Mr.. Wells, Mr. Buell., and MIR
Rowe, and was agreed to-
Mr. ABElL, Of West Haven, moved 10 amend so
A. TO iiX the time for final adjournment at sat
urday morning the 2lst lust, at 4 o'clock, which
disagreed TO-
The resolution was then adopted, fixing the time
for final adjournment for Wednesday morning
November 18th, at six o'clock provided the Senate
concur In the assage of the resolution
Special 0rder-H. III, constituting new county
by the name OF Allen. reported from committee
by a substitute bill which omits the town Of Ply
mouth, " Windsor county, and the town Of Wind
ham, IN Nindllam county, as originally proposed
10 be embraced In the new county, and includes
the towns of Westminster and Athens, within said
limits, and also submits the act 10 vote Of the
people Of the towns to be included in the new
county, at the next March meeting
Mr. HENRY, OF Chester inteTogated the COM
mittec as to the facts and statistics presented be-
fore them az TO population and distances of the
various towns proposed 10 ho embraced In the
new county, from the present county shircs and
from the new shire as 1t would be established In
the new county lie represented about three thou
sand five hundred legal voters and a population
Of nearly nineteen thousand, asking for the for
nation NJ this county and all he asked il that the
House will observe the golden rule, and do unto
others as they would that Others should do to
them
Mr DARrr. of Weathershcld said that com
ing from one Of the towns 30 be- embraced IN the
new county. he should take issue with the gentle
man from Chester. lie, In behalf Of the voters IN
his town, respectfully demonstrated against being
brought into any such arrangement aa Is proposed
n thi. bin He said this action comes chiefly
from single town. the other towns named care
I trt huie about t.
Ilr itOl T. uf Barton -1d that the PROPOSE
i..l lcI. 3. to di-momher two counties and erect
.
COMMITTEES nle agreed upon the proposition now sub
mitted, that H. satisfactory 10 him, and he could
support %. But If u majority of the representa-
uNcS iu the counties Of Windsor and Mmdham
are opIpsed to the proposition. he could not sup
port H.
MIR EDDY of Jamaica. intorrogated the com
mittee, and drew from them the fact that there
was no more court business In Windham anu
Windsor counties than can easily be done IN
those counties as now organized. lie claimed
there was no demand for new county, either on
account Of the necessities Of court business or ON
account Of the requests Of the people. II we be-
gin 20 break down county lines there are other
localities that have just ~ good claims for new
county as the towns named in this bill and We
shall have an entire breaking up OF county lines
in the state. Again, If We are to submit this
question to vote Of the people let It be submit
ted tu n vote Of all the towns in Windhan and
Windsor counties. and not alone to the towns 10
be embraced within the new county limits lie
said there are large number Of people IN the
towns named in this bill who do not favor the
project Of new county
Mr. III BBARD, Of Springfield said that he
thought the gentleman from Chester is mistaken
when he says he il representing eighteen thousand
people and three thousand five hundred legal
voters, for he believed that with the exception of
one or two towns a majority Of the inhabitants Of
the towns embraced in this bill are opposed 10 the
passage of this bill lie believed that the fact
would appear that Mr. Henry actually represented
only the people Of Andover with population Of
HNt lNluItu ana eighty -tlENt the people OF
Weston, with a population of nine hundred and
thirty-one, and the people Of his own town of
Chester with population Of two thousand and
hity-tWO A majority of all the other towns are
opposed 10 the project OF new county. lie said
this is strictly a Chester project, and the other
towns are either opposed indifferent TO it. lie
hoped it would be settled here, and not be sent to
the people.
Mr.. POWELL, of Richford, said he had no in-
terest in the matter, but he thought the PROPOSE
rf the committee inst a. guhmit fhp M a
two-thirds vote of the towns to be organized into
the new county. OF course the other towns Of
Windham aud Windsor counties would object to
it; and so let the towns in interest decide for
themselves
Mr.. DAVIS Of Reading, said his town had a
particular interest in this matter; and he believed
that majority Of all the towns in the proposed
new county, even, are also interested in and OPP
posed to the project lie said that the evidence
before the committee is, that there are ample
county buildings at Woodstock and Newiane to
accommodate the people Of the counties; that
there is no complaint but the court business is
promptly done; and that this is a scheme gotten
up by certain parties In the town Of Chester II we
organize this new county, We shall have no end to
claims for new counties in the state.
Mr.. BONNTON, Of Woodstock, said, in the ar
gument for n new county, that the present county
seats such that the travel is hard in the month
OF December to get TO the county courts. lie did
not know Of any section Of Vermont where the
travelling in the month Of December is not hard.
He said we might in the same way make that ar
gument To apply to the whole state, and To county
seats in other counties The fact that the popula-
tiOn Of the new county will be as large as thea
age of the other counties IN the state is no Argu-
ment for its formation. lie did not doubt that
the people OF Chester wanted it 10 be the shire town
Of the new county but it was the misfortune OF
circumstances that We cannot all live in shire
towns OF a county. lie thought the balance of the
testimony showed that the people did not demand
this measure, and he trusted it would not b,
passed.
Mir MARTIN, Of Londonderry, said he believed
hc lcproscntcd an undivided constituency when b,
D.. .cd fur the passage OF this bill There has beer
% great change IN tie manufacturing and business
centres of the state. aud this demand came from
people that are bmdoned with the expressions o
the present organization of the counties. lie sait
1t WIS somewhat singular that representative
here are so urgent in their statements that ma
ioritv of the people of the towns named in th
bill are opposed to it, and yet are not willing I,
submit the question to vote of two-thirds OF tn,
legal voters Of the towns As TO the county build
ings In Nindham county, at the commencement
OF the session there was bill introduced here Z
lay tax on Nindham county 10 repair thosi
buildings, bat II had been buried IN some secre
recess, so that they might be able 10 talk abou
their good county buildings. lie characterized
the buildings rs being anything but suitable To
the purposes of the county.
Mr. DAVENPORT, Of Wilmington opposed tn
bill because not demanded by the people, and estab
fishing bad precedent for the breaking up OF tn
old aud established county lines Of the state
Mr. EDDY, of jamaica said that In reply 4
Mr. Martins assertion that there were no conyen
lent buildings or hotel Accommodations for tn
court at Newfane, Hon. James Barrett, the Judg
of the Supreme Court, testified before the commit
tee that Newfane was one Of the best places In tli
/ state to hold court
MIR DANFORTIl, of Barnard said his town wa
so situated as TO take bird s-eye view of the sil
/ uation, and he believed the towns had been 5
well accommodated for years past that this Hous
/ would not now begin 10 divide and split up Tia
/ counties of the state
Mr. HENRY, Of Chester, said that when Il
/ moille. county was formed, the proposition wa
not submitted to the counties Of Franklin, Chit
1 tenden and Washington SO now we should no
submit this proposition 10 the people of Widdhar
and Windsor counties but only To the towns ol
| ganized into the new county. No such bugb bear a
/ was held up to our view about the general split
/ ting up Of counties, resulted from the formation
| OF lamoille county; and no such catastroph
would follow this project lie said two towns l
/ originally drawn, to prevent the removal Of IN
county buildings In Windham county, abou
which 80 much fear had been expressed Tn
county seats OF both Windham and Windso
counties would not be disturbed by this ne'
county.
Mr.. KENT, of Dorset, demanded the previou
question, which demand was seconded by tn
House. The question then REQUIRED, shall the bl
be dismissed? and on that question the yeas an
nays were demanded by Mr. Davis, Of Reading
and were taken--ayes 90. nays lO9. so the bi
was not dismissed.
The question then REQUIRED on the adoption
the amendment proposed by the committee
Mr.. Eddy, Of Jamaica, proposed 10 amend so q
to submit the act to u vote Of all the towns
| Windham and Windsor counties. instead of 10 th
votes of the towns TO be created into new county
which was disagreed to-ayes ~ nayes W.
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