New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-02-05

duty over any railroad whioh constructed IN
that such road should be public highway for the use
OF the Government. free OF tolls or other enaRos
among other things thai the Illinois Central had re,
ceiyod nearly s5OoOOoo for Government transportation
Mr. HuRLBUT Rer. I'D explained that the amount
paid to the Illinois Central during tine war ome two
contract with the Government ny "on o were al
thirds threefourhs Of the ordinary chsres to
lowed, the Government having the hrst rHh' VI ""' "
The exclusion ot all other business ~, roI
Mr.. g. +. HOAR (Rep Massl suggested TO r nr,
that no money shall be paid 10 any railroad for perform
ing any service for the United States required 80 p
formed without compensation by the terms VI i'S
Mr. HOLMAN asked Mr. Hoar whether he contendsd
that fair construction OF the law was tha Tue "o
ment should simply have the use OF the track ,o
Mr. g. F. HOAR replied that what he was prepaneu 70
SeSclsre that mill the question iudiciay deter
mined Il should enforce upon the fatGau 1 Tomt the
tion which Congress gave to the question without
railroad company being heard IN reply Ihtt was Dc
he had objected to in dealing Win tne raSnU
roads He moved to amend the amendments NY h1sn -
it read, the condition that transportation Sno"'N
i M PoTTER Dem NJ " agreed with Mr. Hoar that
Congress should lay the strong hand OF its power gu
persons who had great judicial questions p,nu,1 Hs 4
tween them aud the GONeFhileht anu
Mr. Hoar's amendment to the amendment was
WI p. ,.. vi favored the withholding OF
the money in the first instance. and then letting tne
railroad companies bring suit IN the court i3r claims 40
was done in the case the Pacific Railroad last session
Mr. HOLMAN characterized Mr. Hoars amenoin s ~
emascuae the original proposition, because any oncef
OF the Government would simply say inat no grane
OF lands had been made 10 any raiioau oo"ps"' WI
that express condition. ,.,
Mr. HOAR drew a picture OF two modes OF legislation
was TO deal Justly with all subjects to break pub
lie faith with railroad company and TO let ogls-
the unjust and the lust The other was to object con
stantly to everything proposed good Dad o or ike
demagogue, and say, 10 am the only friend OF
uniu and hoy N
Is everybody else but me- He would not point OUT 10
the gaze of the House the gentleman who fitted this pic
ture of legislator [Laughterl
Mr.. HOLMAN said he had heard that same klnd OF
eloquence before from the gentlemen who were attor-
news for corporations and he certainly able TO near
the gentlemans remarks with great patience puI nc
allowed of no divided service. They expected Their
to operate against the people ana or
their own advantage IL the gentleman from massa
ohusetts thought proper to stand the representa-
tive OF the illinois Central, which was exlorting To-
from the country, in violation OF its engagements,
he Nr. Holmanl could very well afford to be patient
under any, even the insulting remarks III w 1 ne 0r
HOaT) might think proper to indulge lie lhr Holm w
Whenever 1t could be said Of him that he came mere as
the representative OF corporation or that ne aeIeu III
the interest OF corporation In derogaton OF the rights
OF the people, he should nave occasion 10 Dsn pu Ho
Till then. He had never before seen such an unOlushlng
attempt to shield base and graspng corporation as
that which House had Just witnessed on the part OF
the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. G h. H0AR thought 1t hardly necessary iOr mn
10 saw that he had no knowledge OF the Interests OF the
Illinois Central Railroad in the question before the
onicers or managers of that road. The amendment
proposed by the gentleman from Indiana had seemed
defeat the object he protested to have in view ana nc
(r. HOarl had therefore moved the amendment winch
seemed to him exactly just and right, and which would
accomplish the purpose. IL was under these circuni-
stances that the gentleman from Indiana hr HOmaIl
sober as nc presumed TO be, undertook u
get up and charge one Of his fellows and peers on
OF railroad corporation and with desiring deceive
and entrap this assemblage OF Intelligent statesmen
not necessary for hun 1r HoaD, wherever ne was
known.
Mr.. HUBLBUT Qsep., ILL., suggested that the fairest
form provision would be directing that allow
anee or payment should DO made to any land grant r
road any service which, under its grant II Is re
CURED TO perform, without payment for tho United
MIR BURCHARD Rep., M argued that the Govern
ment not liable TO be charged for the transportation
Of troops on such railroads.
Mr. kASsON tRep., IOwa) expressed his concurrence
with the gentleman from Indiana hr. Holman IN ms
opinion 10 the duty OF Congress- ana he thanked him
for having brought the attention OF the h01'e ana OF
the 10 the question. No language could possibly
have been Incorporated into statute that would eh-
press clearly the intention of the Government to
! receive valuable consideration for the grant
OF public lands than that which was put In these origl
nal land grant acts: pubic highway TOT the use Oh
the Government OF the United States free from toll or
other CHARGES" He earnestly hoped that the matter
would he put In such explicit form ina II would he re-
assertion on the part of Congress OF s Deei that the
law requires these roads TO make this transportation
free of toll or other charge.
Mr. HOLMAN again got the floor and renewed his
compliments 20 Mr. HOar, repeating the nnation that
Mr.. Hoar acting as the attorney OF the railroad
companies and stating that he had not bushed as his
when found voting question involving railroad OF
which he the President.
Mr.. HoiMANENo; was abiding TO your colleague
The gentleman is not the only from Massachusetts,
by any means tLaughter.l He Is not the only attor-
ney corporations this hOor, either. The gentleman
from Massachusetts, (Mr HoaD may explain, as long
he lives that he Is not acting in the interest or corpora
tions but think that those who know him will have
grave doubts as to the fact. viii the gentleman look
picture and whether ne ~ serving the people
Of be country OF is serving those sordd corporations
fhata 81 10 Treasury
After further discussion substitute offered by Mr..
WILLARD rep, VII, was adopted, As follows:
part e money appropriated 1 this Get sha be paid to
United railroad which in whole
r.Tosd ;hoUd be pubic SshTsy for
the United nee OF toll or other charge Tor such
oct for The np d % s o 1 the .iI sa lSd Bui
nothing contained shall be construed preventing any such road
pOr,.on and recovering for the found entitled thereto by virtue
A like amendment offered by Mr.. COBURN Rep Ind
was adopted reference to the railroads In the South,
which had purchased railway material and rolling stock
from the under the Executive orders of
Aug and oct H. 1865, and which are indebted TO the
United States therefor and which refuse to give to the
Quartermasers Department an order for such amount
on the Postofhce Department The Committee then
The SPEAKER stated that Messrs. Clymer Dem,
PENN aud Hale rep, n. ~ had asked TO be relieved
from service the Joint Select Committee on the affairs
OF the District of Columbia, and thar as they were
already serving two committees they had the right
stead OF Mr. Wheeler (Rep., n. " and Mr.: Hamilton
dem, n j. subsequently he stated that MI wheeler
also declined the same ground that he was already
serving two committees He insisted however, that
when a gentleman could not make that plea II was hs
duty 10 serve and he then announced the appointment
in place OF Mr.. Wheeler OF Mr. Il. H. Roberts (Rep,
n. "
The Committee now stands follows: Messrs
Wilson Q2ep., Indl, +. If Roberts Rep, n ~, HuJbell
(Rep., Mich.l Hamilton dem, N j., aud ewel (Dem
OhO).
The House. at ~, took recess till H. the evening
session the consideration OF the bill TO revise
and consolidate the statutes.
EVENING SESSION
The attempt to make any progress with business IN