National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-04

q. Do you know how long he rtRyed hertz A
o. Cannot yon fecoiIect sxseflr xhsu that vas
A. u can tsli Won exsofir ~ refarencs. canno
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| nirhl ~ nm 81. WI introduced to him q
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W T ssss Osa,rman' think 'nA' must nA's ''s
| The Wines. want to explain here that, Q
| connSsl I hnd no earthly Interest except for ID
sniS n he truth here and Was perfectly Vel
nonsy' and the reason that went 70 see Colone
Etr.isnS-beosase- that -vas- undsabtediy II
mnp.Vss precisely on that point Il Was vita
there and essential because, n Mr.. Chittende
h1o sSsut 70 bring the cy q
coz hired Carriage, and I went With bin 10 hi
house., ,.y,.,t, -. = =
Mr.. Allison, that YOU conyersed Win him. ~
The Ohairman. i think 1t was the same ds,
that Mr.. Wilson and I talked about IL. Psrhap
committees Room. -, - - -''s = -
The Witness mat the chairman right on Ii,
stairs. Q I MAS asking for MI. Chittendsn,s dis
found out shat Kirt,snd va J here ssid Gsss
Mr.. Kirtisnd: the COMMITTEES may recall you.
sS A. " s0% 81 e.
went in there he very same day that I found
them, went IN, and Ohfttenden and Kfrtlanc
q. Was That the same day that you had gone Il
your room and found Kirkland fheref A. Yes
Sir; It was the very same day, later, about or
oi sa Mr.. wilson: O. onrt..ndsn and Klr.isnd
were In the room. together1 A. Chittenden seid
that It was foolish thing for him to do; that he
when came here that he expected Kirkland to Be
here, and, so FAR Is his personal interests were
concerned, was perfectly well satisfied that KIT.
would reflect on the truth or correctness Of any
statement which he would make. -. -,
By Mr.: Thurman; Q. DID Kirkland give any
Not the slightest. was particular to have but
very little talk with MI. Kirkland i did not
want much talk: 49,. --.r.f-.s--ls a.. -
q. You say thst he gave you no idea from
which you could infer ct all where any Of that
money wentf A. Not the slightest I simply
asked him that single question, snd not another
GSittendsn and he said mo- no. Said sIr You are
put on that stand, would that be your testimony"
1Yes." he said. said had no further occasion
TO question him.
by Mr.. Wilson: Q. In that conversation did he
give you any intimation as 70 what BIO would tes-
lily TO relative 70 where this money had Comet A.
He said q would be very injurious.
BY Mr.. Thurman: Did he 10 whOmf A. No,
!
his testimony was taken. Said I, $50 long as Mr..
Chittenden did not divide with you" you will
permit me to use my exaet Language, I told him
he sS' dd Sot siye anS reaso oS Re- was hare
under An assumed namef A. Not the slightest
asked him the question: said of you do not
want to DO put upon the stand. how happens It
that you are In Washington" Then be said to
me, 81 think Washington Is the safest place TO be
4 II Il rBrnlrEa0
uSo far as l am concerned, I can hardly under.
stand why you are coming 20 me. because q you
have never divided with MIR. Chittenden, / have
no further interest in the subject" Z 30 s.. u.
@ Did he intimate that he wanted anything for
sbsenting himself or keeping silentf A Oh, no;
anything from Mr. Chittendcn: and represent
nobody else but Mr.. Chittenden-- He never init
mated anything OF the kind TO me. 3
A. I could tell You the exact day By references,
but could not tell you now.
BY Mr.. Stewart: O. He has gone from there
been little tedious to me. i have been over
flowed with guests. and Il is the FIRST time have
ever been before q committee Of investigation,
through my room, and take my key. and come In
them to the room.
BY Mr.. Thurman: @. What manner OF men are
theyf A. think the usual manner In this com
munity. -a-- -9-..r-- Il
q. DO you know any of their nauesf A. Yes,
q. who is hef A. Mr.. Wilcox is one.
Z. DO you know any othersf A. No, sir; but
have great many friends here. l have never
been politician, but have made great many
stump speeches, and have vast number Of
friends, and everybody wants to render me assist
ance in this city. q
z. Cannot you recollect any OF these gentle
in your room: A. o, they have not the slightest
with IN, TINS business.
are. A. o, we'll, they will not afiics you in this
way, because you are better known than am, Sir
~ By Mr.. Hamllton: z. Did you aSk him Y MI,
hirtland had been subpGnaedr a. NO, did not.
diu not suppose that ne hau.
Y Did no tell you that subpoena had been
e en- a. Ms mouse! a. No, ~. 2ia not suppose
mat 20 had been suopenaed. heard bei1re
Jane from OhlcaKo-at turee CLOCK Mr. Cnitteu-
ien desired me 70 start with hin Tor W ashington,
And the tram ist a. quarter. past nye.. had
;ase before the Board OF Trade at half-past
three. The time was 50 short that was not even
lble to get home, and l came here right along as
| was In my otfice. There we're tive reasons why
came & ne , 10 sns f Sd h building ma6
N this case against Mcclellan. Mr.. Jarvis, Of
ne Casanova Bank interested IN that contract
Interested WIN M. ShitteooenInsa setalned me,
talnlng foe.
q; Has THIS tanker been IN washington since
Jon have been hersi a. lie mas boon here, but
lot since have been. He was here, and saw
ais name In the chicago papers announced as hay-
ng peen present In this city. He was here Tor at
east Two weeks
oegan? A. Certainly, sir; he was hear every mo-
nent OF Jenkins Investigation.
BY the Chairman: About the commit ee-room:
have no doubt OF lt, but never said one
Eord to him about this Investigation. l had
1othing to do with him. They undertook % put
he bank Into bankruptcy, and ! had something
o do with that, but what surprised me was that
he had not been examined. Mr.. Ohlttenden and
myself both supposed that he was here when we
anne. .....
BY Mr. Hamilton: G. Where does Mr. Kirkland
esidei A. do not know that, sir; |
Because have not seen him.
Q. You do net know, then. that he has gone |
I do not know that he has gone,
@. Did he say he was going3 A. He did cot |
ay anything aboutit. He went out Of my room,
nd have not seen him since.
q. Then you do not know whether be has gone |
r notf A. No, do not know that. Jarvis |
Tas In q matter or relation with Chittenden. |
property there has been burned
J interested In this case against Mcclellan, and
greed to advance me my retaining fee. He
greed to send 1t to me. When we came here
Ipscted to ind Kirkland and Ira Holmes. We
9th came suddenly. know that Mr. Ohltten-
en- had been very busy. came as suddenly as
have stated TO you; so suddenly that did not
ven get q satchel TO bring with me, and sup
osed that would find everybody here, and the
uestlon that had consulted Mr.. Chlttenden
i'm, whether he ever divided with Kirkland. He
DID me that he never did, and that he had not /
ny expecta ton that Mr.. Kirkland would ever say
hat he had That was the only inquiry that /
yer made.
new that Mr. Mattingiy had seen Kirkland
|, Yes SIR; and Mr.. Matilugly told me that he |
ID not believe that he was here at all. I never