The New York herald., 1874-08-30


trampling the sceptre OF England under loot while
he extends the right hand OF welcome to a work
man, who humbly dofrs his Phrygian cap to the
great agitator. There were pictures lnnumerabe
OF the 'Good Samaritan" and OF "Daniel in the
Lions Den," and OF the traditional unity OF tue
bundle OF sticks which a man is seen vainy en-
deavoring to break so long as they remain united.
While the leaders OF the movement were watching
the return OF the procession which. by the way,
occupied several hours, your correspondent mad
interviews with Messrs. Macdonald Bradlaugh
and Lloyd Jones.
INTERVIEW WITH ALEXANDER MACDONALD,
the member for North Stafford was standing on
the balcony of the County Hotel watching the vast
crowd ike another Xerxes contemplating the
brevity OF human life. He seemed in remarkably
good health, despite the severity OF his long at
tendance in the session OF Parliament just con-
cluded.
CoRREsPoNDENr-Mr. Macdonald, since had the
pleasure OF interviewing you on your return Tor
Stafford you have had the experience OF session
present critical condition OF English affairs, it
would be interesting TO the readers OF the NEW
YORK HERALD to hear something OF the expert
ences OF the first workman M. p. returned to the
British Parliament.
Mr.. MAcDoNALD-I am glad to meet you again.
and have to thank You for the accuracy and care
with which you formerly reported my political
views. Do you know, my friends in America
deluged me with copies OF that particular HERALD
containing our conversation. Have not walked
up to my programme
CoRREsPoNDENT-Undoub In one respect
you have gone beyond 1t. You have voted Tor
home rule.
Mr.. MACDONALD with SMILEY Yes, perhaps
stated my opinion there to you with little excess
OF caution; hut my vote Oh this question was on
the right side. You will find, year by year. the
votes in support OF home rule steadily increasing
You know am an old home ruler. Twenty years
ago an almost similar movement was started in
Scotland, under the name OF '.The Scottish Rights
Defence Association" The promoters OF that
body wished home legislation by Scottish Parlia-
ment on all purely national questions. considering
1t necessary TOR the efficient and economical adj
mnistration OF the countrys affairs. The Irish
movement Is, OF course. slightly different. and is
more sweeping in character. Nevertheless
voted with the home rule party. My sympathles
are certainly with them.
CORRESPONDENT see, Mr.. Macdonald, that one
journal has been seriously overlaulng you for not
dividing the House on the annuity grant 10 Prince
Leopold.
Mr.. MAcDoNALD-They compliment me over
much in resting the whole weight of the interests of
the working classes exclusively on my shoulders,
and in finding no fault with such men as Peter Tay-
lor and Sir Charles Dixie for tins supposed neglect
OF working Class interests. The truth s this Oppo.
sition to the Leopold annuity is in no sense
national. Out OF the whole House of $50 national
you could not nave obtained more
than five to go into the division lobby against the
grant Mr. Peter Taylor himself spoke to me
during the discussion. and he believed that di.
vision would be only an unnecessary and unwise
disclosure Of weakness. We would have had
less division than on the previous gr ant to men,
Der of the royal family.
CoRREsPoNDENr-Then England is as loyal to-day
as everY
Mr.. MACDoNALDIn thar respect certainly she is
CORES PONDEST-I presume :hat while the pro-
ceedings OF the Royal Commission on the LABOR
laws. OF which Her Majesty appointed you men,
ber, are pending. you do not care to speak OF the
progress made thereY
MIR. MACDoNALD-This much I can venture to
say that the action Of the Commission will be in
favor OF the relaxation of the severe strngency of
these laws To say any thing further is not desra-
BILE at this time.
CoRREsPoNDENT-Than you. May ask your
opinion of the mode OF conducting business in the
House OF CommonsS
altogether wrong. | cannot fancy anything more
calling for remedy than our absurd manner of
legislatng Tor q great country at midnight and
when the members OF the House have exhausted
themselves with other labors during the day or are
tired with the equally exhausting work oil both
dining and winning well.
CoKREsPoNpENT-l have been glad to read in the
PAPERS Mr.. Macdonald, that you nave recently
purchased a fine Scottish estate.
Mr.. MACDONALD with an air OF assumed sad.
ness)-I could wish my estate were ali that the
a.. .xFt nnurcn aNnr r,nn tncv rtoa
is only some "hfteen acres' IN extent but you will
too glad to have you 'inteI view" 1t the first hO-
day trip you can make to scotland.
INTERVIEW WITH CHARLES BRADLAUGH,
Thanking the honorable member Tor stafford for
the kind reception lie invariably gives your corre
spondent l next buttonhoed Mr.. Bradlaugb
whom found in third heaven of delight over the
entnusasuc reception the Durham miners had
CoRREspoNDENT-You have scored another VIC
tory to-day. Mr.. Bradlaugh.
Mr.. BRADLAUGH-lcs. ] nave had to fight my way
through deal OF prejudice III order TO speak from
the platform l occupied to-day. Some OF these
to day, but they dare not oppose my presence-the
men are so clamorous for me- have many
"iambsr among the golfers, although they are
strangely enough scattered. some OF the pits are
wholly with me: others have a majority for me
while there are certain pits where as yet have
no perceptIble influence at all.
CORRESPONDENT-Are we TO have you soon again
In the United states
Mr.. BRADLAuGH-Yes. Towards the end of Sep
"
the Forthcoming Northampton election may inter-
fere with the length OF my stay IN your country. II
l am elected member Of Parliament for NOrthamp-
ton VIII be unable to travel west OF the Rocky
Mountains, as my presence viii be necessary at
the opening OF Parliament.
CoRREsPONDENT-Are your prospects OF return
for Northampton good
Mr.. BRADLAuGH enthusiastically No candidate
could wish for better reports OF the voters than
those | am getting. ] addressed a meeting thele
two nights ago. and their enthusiasm surpassed
anything nave hitherto witnessed In that town.
INTERVIEW WITH LLOYD JONES.
Your correspondent had the following CONVERSE
ton with Mr.. Lloyd Jones. one OF the oldest and
most respected OF the Old English reformers
CORRESPONDENCE Jones. shall we have a re-
public IN England, think you, within the next Iorty
yearsY
LLOYD JoNEs-No unless indeed. affairs should
take u very happy turn III France and Spain. can
iancy tnat were spain and France both fourishlng
republics England could not long resist following
suit. | am AFRAID, however, VIC cannot look iOr
any such desirable change IN the condition o these
coun RE. RepuDlicansm has much 20 contend
with In Europe. France Will. believe, be at the
neck OF Germany before long; and 1t is not at all
m nos ssi le a Fraucp