The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-02-22
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THE STREET CLEANING INVEST.
CATION.

Uhl1UNs
Police Comm issioner Charlick Tells
What Little He Knows About Street
Sweeping, Dumping on His Own Lots,
&c.-No Developments Of Amy Moment
as Yet.
The Committee on Cities Of the Assembly yester-
day and yeste rday evening continued their inves-
tigaton into the street cleaning business OF this
city. There was at the sittings full attendance
OF the members or the committee. as well as OF
attaches Of the Street Cleaning Department and
Police Department. superintendent Thorne was
put on the stand to continue hts evidence, but very
little that was new was elected from him. In rela-
ton to the possibility of having clean streets he
SAID they could not be kept clean, because tho
appropriation not sufficient to employ
larger force Of men he offered to deposit the gar
bage on the property OF the New Jersey Railroad
Company before he began to deposit with Mr..
Charlick. and bring IL to them in scOws; he went
to Mr.. Wynans the agent of the company, and
offered to give more than they were getting and
take it to their property, but they reiuscd 1t was
then distributed to different places before giving it
to Mr.. Charlick; Mr.. Charlick's place was more
convenient for depositing than any other place;
during the month OF December the carriage was
more than during the summer; in cleaning the
streets they removed all the garbage that was
old cans being removed by them; never
knew Of his people separating garbage and
selling the Old cans, &C.; had heard OF it
being done after working hours by the men, but
did not think that 1t his duty to stop them; If
his people should do this it could not be made
means OF meeting the expenses OF the street clean
ing; during the winter the men were paid at
headquarters, but in the summer they were paid
at the di1'erent station houses throughout tho
who had each mans work certified to; 1t often
happened that men never came for their money; 1t
was then left the safe for their application; he
had often had communications from the Board Of
Health about different streets; these were handed
to the oremen OF the streets complained OF for their
! supervision; he stopped dumping IN N1nety-slxth
street on application OF the Board OF supervisors,
the autumn and winter witness had received
notice oftne bad condition Of Ninth street. and had
| sent men there; only three-quarters OF o CARLOAD
had been collected In a space OF 900 feet ana which
cost the Street Cleaning Bureau about seven or
Police Commissioner Charlick was placed on the
stand, after Mr.. Thorne had been questioned to
not that OF the committee itself; but up to the
time OF the adjournment the cross-examination
T aG moi him oe'n an noasn 20 That raw er
OF startling character AT times, however,
when he was questioned very closely as to certain
matters which were OF private nature, SO tar as
he was concerned he declined to answer at all. He
explained how he was made Commissioner OF the
He said ne was also Treasurer Of the Board; the
contract with Jones and McQuade was made with
the consent of the Board, about November last
he could not say how much was delivered under
That contract; the returns were made by Captain
Thorne; he knew that Jones and McQuade paid
money under this contract; last June or July Mr..
Wynans, agent Of the New Jersey Company. wrote
mat ne was gong 60 discontinue taxing so mnen
sioners, he agreed to continue taking the same
quantity as usual; witness owned number OF
lots at Hunters Point, but did not own any where
MIR Tnorne belonged 70 the Long Island Railroad
4 tri,, .Ian fiat
area; this contract was made about two years
ago; witness was President of this railroads now
the dumping first began then was that man
came to witness as the President OF the road and
requested leave to dump garbage there; witness
person Who ed in these oss an asreemens
had been made with this party to pay for the
filling in, bat witness objected to answer the de-
tails OF the agreement; the company has never
paid any of this money, although litigation
is now in allegiance for the settlement OF this
sion 70 dump the stun on the company's land,
as otherwise ne would be compelled TO take II out
to sea; did not know how much dumping had been
done there by MIR. Th0rne: he commenced IN the
latter part OF July and ended in August; had heard
conversations about dumping in Mehrbachs place
at 106th street: witness did not think this refuse
was very useful In filling IN lots though 1t was not
garbage could be sold to any advantage; the Board
OF Health authorities were like locusts swaTming
over the lands and would not allow it to be landed
at any place in the summer months; but In the
months OF September, October and the other winter
months 1t can be disposed OF readily; witness did
/ not Lnnk THAT any ulrt COulu DC nauuleu LOT less
than rs cents load, and In some cases 1t
even went high 80 and IS cents; in
hts opinion, II the dirt had to be taken 500
yards 1t would be cheaper to use q cart; but II it
had only to be taken one hundred yards or so it
would be cheaper to use the wheelbarrow; during
the summer months tho Board had no place TO
dump this garbage, on account OF the health
authorities; advertising for bids for the dirt was
done in the daily papers since January last; in
the summer months they had oil they could do to
get rid OF the garbage, though in the fall 1t was
easily disposed of; he did not thdy that 1t would
pay the Board TO have the gs.h~ge separated;
there was no difficulty in disposing OF the ashy
garbage on account OF its filing up pr0pensitfes.
Mr.. Charlick was further questioned as to GER
tain details oil the working OF the Street Cleaning
Department, bat nothing Of any great mpor lance
was elected.
The committee, when it adjourned last evening,
adjourned to meet tomorrow monday, when
1t Is said the counsel will be able to make sensa-
ton by the revelations which will follow his cross
examination OF certain parties At least the
friends of the gentlemen who are pressing the In
vestlgation say he will.