The anti-monopolist. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1874-1878, 1874-09-03
@. For what purpose was this money
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@. When was this money paid to him?
A. There was $5OO paid to him in June
and cannot give you the date that he was
paid the S65O; l have got that down;
think that it was before that the $3.50 was
said.
q. Was this money paid before or after
the money was paid to Mr.. McIlraths
A. Paid before
Q. Did you take any receipts for this
money from Mr.. Constock?
A. No, sk: think not.
q. You say you did not; why notY
A: Well, guess did not want any, or the
parties.
Q. How? A. say 1 guess the parties
did not want any receipt from him.
O. Well, why didn't they want any re-
ceipt from him! A. The reason was that.
he was to report about half of it to the State
and the balance he was to have for sthush
money"
@. What was the full name of this man.
Comstock? A. Butler Colnstock.
@. State when you paid the other e.
162. 35 to Mr. McIlrath, you had any CONVEX
sation with Mr.. Mcllrath then, or at any
other time, in which you told him, or he in
dicated that he knew about your paying this
money to Butler Comstock. A. No; I
never had any conversation with Mr.. Nell
rath relative to the matter.
Q. State fully the conversation that you
had with Mr.. Butler Comstock at the time
you paid him this 81 ,l5O. A. Well, Inev-
er had any with Mr.. Butler Comstock; the
orders we're made out in the woods; knew
nothing about it, and paid the money over
on his order. aA
@. Who settled with him up in the
woods? A. Mr.. Mower settled with him
on this Mud Creek arrangement.
= What other settlements were made.
and who made them?
A. There was the Cover & Carmichael
settlements that were made by Carmichael
for logs that were cut on Grindstone Creek.
O. Then this $2,3l2.25 was paid for logs:
cut upon Mud Creek?
A. Yes, sir.
@. At how much thousand was Mr..
Colnstock to account for those logs to the
State that he cut on Mud Creek?
A. He returned 307 ,463 feet cut on Mud
Creek to the State.
@. How much was in fact cut there?
A. Well, suppose there was all of a.
million cut; cannot give the exact amounts:
| should judge there was million feet
@. At how much thousand was lie to.
return this 3S7, 900 to the State?
A. Well, the understanding was that.
| it was to be SO thousand. That was the
amount he was to return to the State.
@. What were other logs of a like quail
ty worth per thousand on the stumpage in
the vicinity of where these were cut on Mud,
Greek? A. Well, about that amount--$3
per thousand.
cut by Messrs Carmichael & Cover on
Grindstone Creek? A. Well, think there
was in the neighborhood of three or four
hundred thousand; that is, cut on State
lands.
@. But were those paid for? A. Well.
| there was ninety-one thousand returned to,
the State, and paid for at So a thousand;
then there was $500 paid to Mr.. Comstock.
and 1918 to the State
G. Who was this $273 paid to? A. That
was paid to Mr.. McIlrath.
c.. For what purpose was this $500 paid
to Mr.. Comstock? A. Well, l suppose
that was to settle the stumpage. l paid it
on their order
@. Did you not understand when YOU
paid him that $500 that it was not to 20 to
the State? A. Yes, sir understood it in
O. q. Did you ever at any time meet Mr..
A. No; do not believe l did meet them
| together; recollect seeing him in Macs
| Office one time that is the only time ever
saw them together believe. ,
@. Have you ever settled with any other
parties except Mr.. Comstock in the same
ways A. l do not recollect that have in
this district. l rather think paid Young
Castle an order of one hundred dollars once,
but do not recollect exactly. believe he
| took Mr. Comstock's place !; l think he came
in after Mr.. Comstock. .u, .f.
@. State whether at any Of these times,
when you were settling with Mr.. Comstock:
| and paying him this 'Thush money" he in.
| dicated that in any manner, at any time that
Mr.. McIlrath had any interest in these oper-
atoms beside what was coming to the State r
| A. All have ever heard him say is that il
would not do for him to take pay for all OF
| it; that he would have to return some TO-.
Mr. McIlrath.
| O. Who is this Young Castle that You.
| spoke off A. His name is Luke Castle.
@. would ask you whether Mr.. Nell
rath ever went to any trouble, or took any
measures to ascertain, or made any inquiries
as to whether the stuInpage was correctly re-
turned by Mr.. Comstockf A. Well, have
never heard Of any; he seemed to be always
satisfied with Mr.. Comstock's operations.
@. State whether at any time, when,
dealing with Mr.. Comstock, you give any
rates for stumpagei A. Ibelieve did.
O. When did you give thems A. Well,
| cannot answer you that !; l cannot tell.
| @. Well, how long ago is it since you be-
gan to give rates. A. think it was in 1857,
| Z. Never since! A. No, | think not ::
none since according to my recollections.
@. How long did those rates runf A.
Thirty days, if 1recollect right.
| @. l understand you to say that all these
logs that you settled with Mr.. Comstock ana
paid the State for were cut as trespassf
| A. Yes, sir; there were no written per-
rnits that know Of; l don't recollect Of
| Q: Was it not = general practice among
lumbermen about that time and since TO "a
on and cut timber OF Of State lands without
permit, and with the understanding thaA
they could settle in the manner that Won set
tied with Mr.. Comstocl?
A. Well, think that was the eepersn
understanding think, as general thing.
all the parties that were looking up lands m
that way was expecting to make money out
Of it
Q. Have you or any other persons con-
nected with you, cut timber on the State.
lands without permits within the last year
| or two? 100 -
A. No, sir, have net ses
Q. My question is, ''or any person CON.
nected with. your" A. No, / have not cnf
any within the last two years.
9. Was there ever anything said by NJ
Mcllrath to You parties when settling n,
those logs, or before it about your NOT AZ.
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