New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-10-07

the discussion appointed to follow the reading OF the
papers the Hon. r. II. Dana IT, OF Massachusetts,. and
the Hon. Hugh Shelley OF Virginia were expected to
take part neither present II was then opened
| by the Rev. Il. 8. Huntington. who spoke briefly
At the conclusion OF Mr.. Huntingtons remarks the
chairman announced the next one who desired to
discuss the question the Rev. DIR. +. A. washburn.
REMARKS BY THE REV. DIR. WASHBURN.
am glad to speak on this subject, because
had to fear, when heard my honored friend,
DR. Andrews, and my friend, DIR. Thompson, so fully
seemed to upon the side OF very stringent eysia
ton, that we should lose admirable suggestions
made by the first speaker with whom must fully agree
II ia not that don't agree with legislation, that under
certain conditions need IL. and need that the law
should made strong, very firm, in its execution
but believe the danger in church Is not, and has
not been and Ia not likely upon the side OF over
Freedom and therefore do believe that IS very I'M
porant at this hour TO throw so far as we cam
our whole influence upon the side OF generous and
large policy regard to this matter OF Ritua ana egiS
iaon about Ritual LApplau.e !, ,r,,o forward here.
which has not been touched by any OF the spcakers
we arc all OF agreed that regard co these
,ars Of Ritual so far as they do not touch doctrlDe
40 far as they mere matters OF gsthetc ioer anu
sentiment there should be here an ample scope through
o the Church We can legislate men into opinions
upop that point but all We can do We ieglsiao .1o
r wo of the great reformer OF GermanyLuther
ubo when he told that one or his ministers hau
been hs Costume and custom OF that Church replied
Tet him wear three if he will only preach Christ !"
Rn sr how can we distinguish always and accurately
whether the Ritual is matter OF costume OF uoes
ss history Of the whole church. beginning
the evil has begun with the outer costume as ~
the fancy OF men, aud by degrees the doctrine deve
oped II Is not possible for cases like this now
before the English Church and our own. to lay
down the exact limits where doctrine begins
| and where mere esthetic sentiment ends; but
| Sir. when we look in reality at the meaning OF
the Rtualistc movement, hch we see in the Church OF
England and own tl-iDk we must all confess tha
after all comes from causes which he in our history
ment ia working its blind and often fantastic
way the questions aud that we are nos
tn ssate too regard to those things BUT On the
whole to permit, If we believe in the Providence that
guides the church, II we behave that these great tides
Of thought, ITS worship and its life are from below the
whole historic to on until az last we sna
reach the better result. lApplausel A.
To come TO a specific explanation OF what mean AS
we 90 back to the beginning Of this Rtualistlc move
ment SOME 81 years ago. when 1t appeared Ia e snape
Of the oxford movement, we hnd Was distinct guet
to arising in the church regard 10 important
rules and issues one can say who looks at ane MS
Years years. was not matter which needed long thought. All
these great OF hearts, all these discussions
believe in the will only bring the church to nearer
and srn closer when we come at the bottom Of
this Rtualistic movemenhat see 1t Is not at all
mere matter Of custom, but IL Is question OF what the
Church ia in its character 1t is what tho relation IL OF
the personal faith TO its sacraments IL Is OF an nat
dom for the last two hundred years have been
discussing aud the problem which the English Cnurcn
|
believe sir only free thought and free discussion VIII
! bring at last u victory and the true solution
| Bishop Whpple then advanced 10 the PLATFORM ana
| was greeted with applause. He spoke as follows:
ADDRESS OF BISHOP wHIPPLE.
r have sometimes wondered as to what might be the
Judgment of posterlty the history Of the American
Church, If its only record was its constitution and
| canons and | very sure that the first impression
would be- what terrible race of men these American
Bishops and Clergy must have been for threequarters
ola and nnf
| do and the balance to how they may be tried
| uaughterl agree with every word spoken by my
| good brother, DIR. Thompson, aud the Rev. Dr.
Andrews as to the necessity OF preserving definite
faith and hold that faith to be all conferred In the
great doctrines OF the Incarnation the Atonemeni ana
whatever with the shallow motto OF our day that
matters not what man peeyfs nc msn n u
one OF our Winters the prairie as TO where ne
goes II be thinks he is rghti Applause. Does make
| no adherence to man, a poor, sbpwrecked mariner
who IL ready to sink into the gulf or waters, as TO
whf'ne pet"re Of the coast ne No. my stand
old faith which comes penS thG0gn d dne
which always attempting to legl'iate 40 not con-
s They the OF msn
OF expressing their opinions or their mode OF doing
hn us today u.s. bow can the Gospel be carried
to thousands and tens OF who are gong
asked very distinguish preate never accused Of
sympathy with what might be called Rit9asm how is
to those have men tonnS S"s Hss
those poor people have souls to be saved" Long ap,
And submit here brethren a mat a these Gnes
from my brothers Of either of these extremes but sub
nst ne faith and
thank God that In her clear unmstaKen voice. sne mas
after our Lords ascent into heaven, to lad, ad,
and to breach His gospel and not to define what God
has not defined. There is however one question one
the shadow Of the rock to the weary soul in weary
land about which we all agree and that s the great
doctrine OF the AtOnement-that man. poor lost ruined
is saved and can only saved through the merits
OF the Lord Jesus Christ While admit that there are
many things that do perplex and hear OF things
every day that trouble and perpex my own weak faith
say trust S% my ns heart seas Of s snS
Jesus Christ in this branch Of the &c, Church
10 Harsy any H ana viii
So II o Sftsn S hap That tao
vim find that sometimes ssin;,s,, ruG aass
U %, Of these owly men, Who taught me know
about Church Of God and that was the great hearted
| Bshop Delaney (applausel, when he asked me q
question with to certain service that held
ala you do Edn sSs ES5 be
the loyal all things are loyal LAP
IN tie United States where in the split of fair b9nes
Interpretation Of the law OF the Churcs DON'T believe
there is an Easterp diocese more loyal than every one
oT tbese Western doceses. But brought face to
face with work Of a very peculiar character
One OF my clergy came to me and said: Bishop there
are zoo men IN mere In that northern forest think
some of us ought to 20 there and preach the Gospel
think so too" ~ am not quite sure whether ought
IN begin with NY dearly beloved brethren IN the light
Of a tailow candle in q log-cabn." MY answer was
"Brother. go there and tell the story OF the me
LAYING heart, and when you come back You need not
report to me the service that you used" Applause
| a NJ NV bretl
future 1 have no fear. (Great applaqse] believe
there never has been q time in the history OF the
| at he when work