The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1874-08-15


tihe mood While walking Elong down
70 the church he wal talking all the way
0. grsce, mercy and peace 70 me, and 81
that tine l recoilect lhinkiDg.th2 500
Is vary modifying.
By Mr.. C!sftn-Did you 81 Any time
receive the note which the committee
have in evidence, % follows: ~. W. b
Grace, mercy snt pesee. 7. 7. Sun
day n1ruiog"?
4. Yes: be sent on Sunday morn
ing By his w!ie, who bad it laid on my
palp!L
t..et sbg5t Nay lIt, 1873, The money Of
cy1fse was paid 20 AOalt11 After your
mortgage wss made?
4. les. cir; ! did not keep the money
81 boar. l went with il directly from the
Mechanics Bank, where drew il, and
pat II into MOulton's hsnds on the same
tsy, sud within few hours.
Q A. bis house,
4. DO roi know.
Q Did you have trouble with Tilton
during the latter pArt Q. that month, or
before January lst, 1873;
a l DO not know the month in which
! haTe rot hsd trouble with him. Bat he
ns3e 8 special outburst 81 the end Of the
month o! NSy, 1873, on sccount 0! the
publication Of 8 iripsrtite agreement,
which led 10 my letter TO Mo1lton June
lsi. 1873.
Q. Here u letter dated May lst, 1874,
in which Tilton Ie!ers 70 some story Of
Carpenter about your ofgring money.
Did you receive ihAt letter!
4. l did, SIR; It WAS 8 magnificent
humbug knew thst Til,on knew that
be hsc been tinklIng my gold in his
pocket for months and years, and he
wrote that letter 10 be published for
Ehsm and mask.
Whist did you understand by CArpen-
relations 10 the money msuer:
A Ny frs! knowledge Of Carpenter
was that be was putting bis nose into this
business, which did rot concern him.
Thsi was Also Moulton's impression. l
asked MOulion, one osy, What under the
sun Is Carpenter doing around here and
medd.ing with this mstier:' He sum.
marty damned him, and l represented
him Is good.1StuEed and we'll meaning
butybody. ! suggested why didn't he
tel him distinctly thst his presence was
not wanted. He said, "Wel!, be serves
us come useful purposes. When We
hesr Of things going on in the clubs or
any plsce In New York, we put CArpen-
ter on the tTsck, and he tetches all the
runoEs; and 60 We use him 10 find out
what we could not get otherwise. And
did fad that be rot only did that, bot
that Carpenter was one Of those good.
nstuTed men whose philanthropy eIhib-
tied itself in trying 10 settle quAEEels and
difficulties by picking up everything be
could hear said By, for, or against q man
and carrying it 70 the parties where II
would do the most harm. Possibly he
was kind Of genial, good-nstured TOOL,
and in 81 this matter ne has been tool
more thsn helper. He has never once
t0Ee anything except in the kindest way,
and has neTe. done anything in the whole
Of this matter, from beginning 10 end,
thsi was not stupid blunder. l made
up my mind from the beginning that
as WAS silent 10 everybody in
this mstter, | would be especially
silent 10 him (CsTpenter). Irecollect but
one interview with him thAt had any sig.
nifcance. He came 10 see me once when
the Council was in session, and our doc.
ument was published. There was phrase
introduced into il that Tilton thought
pointed 70 him, and that night be walked
up and down street with Moulton. l was
in a. FIeeland's, and in cones Carpenter,
with his dark and mysterious eyes. he
eat down on the Eofs, and in kind Of
sepulchrAl whisper, told me oil the same
matter. Says |, That is all nonsense"
that il meant - and --, and he
was rgoiced 10 hesr il, and then went
out. % another occasion he came 10 me
in great glow Of benevolence, and said
there was to be newspaper started in
New York, and that l was 10 take
the edi:otship Of IL and half
million was 10 be raised almost BY
the tap Of q drum. | was greatly
amused, but ssd 10 him gravely well,
Carpenter, If Ishould ever leave the pul.
pit, think ii vc!y likely that ! should
go into journalism. II would be more
natural for me than anything else" That
was the amount Of that conversation.
One other conversation have come re-
collection OF in April, and thst was when
Mouiton had q plan on loot 10 buy the
Golden -igs 0! Tilton and send him to
E1rope, and Carpenter came in and
talked with me about il. l Iecollect very
distinctly that conversation. Ny eyes
were beginning 70 be enlightened, and my
education was beginning TO tell on me q
Little, and said 10 Carpenter distinctly /:
Mr.. Carpenter, that is a matter which
can hsve nothing 10 do with. don't
know bet that il Tilton wishes 10 90 TO
Europe with bis family and live there for
come time, thA! his friends would be will.
ing 10 raise thst amount OF money, but
that Is 3 matter you must talk with some.
body else shout, not with me-
Q Did you say that il Tilton printed
the documents you would never ascend
thAs pulpit sgain:
A. never said that, and I should
never talk about the thing with such q
weak man as he.
Q Who introduced the subject Of 20.
ing TO Europe when Carpenter came 10
see you!
A. He did.
z. In the statement you have made
and the letters yOu-have7published, you
express great agitation, SORROW and sui.
teriDg; even to anguish. How do you
reconcile that with the tone Of your pub.
lie ministerations, and the declarations Of
peace and trust which have fallen from
you, from time 10 time-in the lecture
room?
a. explain it precisely in the same
way as ! do the words oil Paul, who said
that be died deaths daily; that he was
the cfiscouring Of the earth, having the
care OF all the churches, and yet with all
this burden on bis mind, he described
himself as living in the most transcend i.
emit religious peace and Joy that stands Oh
record in human literature GOodly sor.
row wotketh joy. The first effect OF
these troubles 10 me was most anguish.
tul and depressed, and often times lay
in them, even as ship heayes
on sea in times Of calm, when she can