The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-03-01
STREET CLEANING.
Continuation Of the Investigation by the
Legislative Committee.
Oliver Charlick in an Ugly Place-He Once
Paid for What He Has Been Recently
Getting for Nothing-Captain Thornes
Views on the Duties of superintend-
ent-"Dump' Dodges Explained.

NJ until nearly six O'Clock P. NJ, and a mass OF
evidence was taken. much OF it being merely OF
minor Importance and repetition OF details con-
sequent upon testimony already before the COM
mittee. Among the most important items OF the
testimony was the statement in contradiction or
what had been already sworn TO, that Mr.. Charlick
had paid, during Browns conrractorship, the sum
OF $4,000 Tor the privilege OF having the ''stun7
dumped at his dock-a privilege which, it Is
claimed, he has recently had for nothing, for the
reason that IL was the most convenient place for
again upon the stand and was subjected to
lengthy cross-examination by Attorney General
dumping was done at Cnarlick's dock because
It was an ADVANTAGE to the city to
50 p0a place he did not
the cost between dumping 1t there ana else here,
but he seemed convinced himself that what he had
done was right, mis- idea being that his chief bust
ness was to get the dirt from the streets at all
events Direct testimony was given against him
by more than one witness. The testimony was en-
pnatc against the present system Of street clean
ing, 1t being sworn TO That the streets could be
cleaned Tor less Than $1,000 900, while the appro-
prlatlOn asked for last year was 81, 1856, 800 This
subject is yet to receive luther development, and
on Monday George Middleton and others thor
ing IN this CITY Will be put upon the stand as
perts. The Chairman announced the names of
alarms Will be compelled to bring to the 'front.' on
Monday next, in case they do not voluntarily ap-
pear.
THE TESTIMONY.
the seey Mai the Sa r examined but
Dumping the garbage ON the boats his testimony
did business s y Long Island Gy he did some work Tor
scows over lIed with the garbage and he did the nn
loading: the expense OF unloading was about five and
. dump Il he took %os s gar:
bear e Of has any more pe
M Ihorne was then superihtendent Of the street
the dumpnes they were then placed on III CharIick's
ey than did on the land beien yins to wifness on Sr
property nn mad to 9e earted some
properly bensaed i rs It would serve bnlkhea@;
tracts with the street Cleaning Department in 1873 had
design the dumpngs could have been deposited in Wit
ness basin even while the stuff was being dumped on
property beng dumped upon the Street Cleaning
h ss he g for S n S On 5
OF Land i SIX feet above high wasr witness ness
this was laid before the Board Of Police CommissoneIs
M IKE I s9a1s II % s
at least 4o 200 OF cubic yards and would cost too much
sonslsts; Board this did
advantageous offer for the city the city, in the opin
y
nofhng At the rate Of ge scows dsy would take
witness at least seven cents yard; II would cost the
ss
not BE dumped on MI Tor s s han
the department il they would continue dumping his
thought that the employed in the saa%pRg
preferred having his own countrymen Urishme hav.
the Tie s city eoas be as
S7U.DJ year, he would separate the ashes from the
glrIagc.
Re Was e he ays Rra a a.
of the streets during the winter for at least $lOoJa
r "; Adams examined-Made a contract with the
iisen gents Yard an the saT5ags II the
perry in besinnins i7s he sod the property
for Ser quantity Of connected with
s Ss until the Witness ss Deputy
with Mr. charlick. when the department. was under Mr.
ssooS; this Was for me alinr in NewtoSn crsek
was received about $4,000 sIsoOo year for the stuff
Which was sSash Sy % yearly aSsrass
realize at least 900 yearNthat was it he o Board
received between the months of April and December,
the boats could mot IN the MinS months tor this
ration OF glass old tins rags and bones the sum Of $so3
yearly was ODtalneui Wlness thought IL was OF
S6assf ssnyays cents When pS'a could e
all other expenses into consideration the expense Of the
street sweeping Tor year was about $4,000 cubic
fS s to about s eaT
made $4,000 o so ysa be Soasnt ha Se
me employed in the department now were not
Were removed and their places supplied by worth
rule: the work OF the
about ten to twelve cents mile as il done the
system Of street cleaning is now good i efficient
thought that the streets could be eicenty cleaned for
for profits This cacuaion ali the principal streets
Filth AVENUE co" be s%ept
least three or four times week. 49,
in a. y sewar store had an engine IN the
besides this there was other saTnase wheb was re
moved BY M Thorne the witness details OF an in
stuff man called on one occasion with the following
POLICE DEPARTMENT, CRY OF NEW YORK;
BUREAU or STREET CLEANING
The bearer, Louis Corduan, is collector Captain
THOMAS W. THoRNE,
W. po,;nso,-.r,o hin Inspector Of Street Cleaning;
garbage is as folows:-
NEW YORK, Sept rs 1873.
Toll VINCENT, DR..
attwenly cents per load $50 40
Received payment
v DAVID andrews delivery clerk in A. T. stewarts
Martin Day, a driver for Hecker Co, and Patrick
Bryef private cartman. testified details In
moving the stuff
George Rice examined-Had been a dumping inspec.
tor previous to the Police Department taking CHARGE
the dump at the north SIDE of Laght street belonged to
the city but the New Jersey used IL also he sold
the tickets at the rate Of ten for 81 the tickets
signed by him under authority OF Mr.. Wynants.
Norman A.. Beach examnei-was an accountant in
the Comptroier's officef
These EXHIBITS were put in evidence showing that the
amount pad by the city tor removing ashes 1873 was
$3356 % the inspectors showed that the
I'm
cartmen are SAID to be paid by the inspectors If
the scow movement Is correct 1t thus follows that
131 cart loads too much had been paid Tor this Mt the
average OF loads TO days work, amounts to some
S66JD
George W. Marden was examined relative to private
dumping, but bis testimony was not important.
John Ii. Dusenbury exanined-Had charged twenty
five cents load Tor dumping the 0ouverneur street
dump, but while he collected the money he
did not DO so from others.
Captain Ihorne reexamined-It cost $A to clean one
block between Twentythrd and Twenty-fourh streets
after the late storm II would $1,000 the
on Broadway aud Filth avenue single day. II such
thing were possible
The witness was asked number que relative to
his assertion In evidence that ne was Obliged
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