The New York herald., 1874-11-01

cusslon nox, and the action taken ON II vas n
concurrence with the bishops In AZ adoption. n
vote was-clericsl yeas So nays ,; Icy yeas n
nays l. II was afterward Informally stated 81
deputies that there should be canon prohibitina
elevations, bowings. &C.. and such canon wIl
doubtless, be introduced into the next Genera
Convention. 1t would have been brought up In
this had not the deputies believed that thetR
canon would have been adopted.
The GHOST OF BArTIsMAL REGENERArI0N AGAIN.
The report OF the Committee on Canons, provid-
ing a permissible rubric after the once OF infsnt
baptism to relieve the weak consciences or low
churc6men, was brought up for aouon and DE-.
Vinton, OF Massachusetts. led the low church
party IN Its defence. He urged its adoption, be.
Unurcn had asked for IL. he said IL was held By
mar many , p,ons persons that baptism Is covenants
its conditions. Those who mold this theorr
believe that regeneration may prccede' 'or may fol.
u Doctor remarked 70 nod tns vew II ts
Church OF England, and N this country ,he bishops
certainly determined BY the words OF the bap-
tsmal ONCE lie maintained that reeeneratioa
fore, for clergyman to nold this % theory. ne De.
manded, IN the name Of simple fairness ana JUS
form or language which faislned their private
teachings lie argued that Tie alteration OF :
be said lnat alterations ike these would open the
way for greater changes, ont the men who iapored
sas saSa rsss Signed nsn' 'S:
others. He pleaded for strong truth, and dweis
on the great expectancy o. granting this petition
appeal after appeal had been made In behalf it.
This Cnurcn was indebted TO many OF these men
dtioa OF tnrift and grace This Church could nos
afiord TO lose these men, wlthstanding all
@ s had n no m hope hs ns petition would 30
but ITS principle was vital, and II would be resur-
rected IN better times. truth crushed to earth
could not be stined. 1t Will come up again when
there win NOT be such strong opposrion to It, and
1t VIII pass and be Incorporated into the rubrica
or the Church.
CHENEY AND cuMMNs NOT BISHOPS.
The Rev. Dr. Wlham Adams, OF Wisconsin, ex-
memorial. Five-siSths of the clcrgymen in the
Churcn were, he said, against It, and this was .
Bishop Cheney mad peen deposea Tor adopting
just such change as this, and he was bishop
wandering about ana consecrated by Bishop Cum.
MINIS. And yet this Convention Is asked to re-
verse TINS decision and virtually declare that
Cheney Is a bishop. And every supporter of mn
would recognize the action proposed as Justlica-
troubled by this office either diseased or un.
instructed. IT, alter iu consideration, these con-
sciences could not be reconciled to the use OF the
words In question, let them withdraw irom tho
Church, and might Gods blessing go with then
the aoctrins of baptSma a ~ en's The
Church Is not heap OF sand. as some men may
found in Masonic ana poitical organizations ana
in the naturalization OF foreigners. In enterlnR
into associatonal or national citizenship, man
must go through certain process before he can
be declared member or a citizen. Even 80, he
p must BY process he d
with Christ in the ONCE OF baptism, whereby the
MADE MEMBER or CHRIST,
child OF God and an inheritor oil the kingdom Of
heaven. II the principle was true as applied to
in the spiritual organization. And man or .
child thus taken f.om the world ia baptism Will be
more likely ana better able to build up religious
character. And yet he said, we allow men stsnd-
Ing at the baptismal font to deny THIS doctrine
there in the name Of the Church and hss
no right TO speak his own words there
sts we must n STOP hs ne aaded because Il emsscu
into being even before the Church itself was
organlzed. The conflict is ON US, and 1t is one
us bury TINS proposition beyond the possibility q
Mr. Meigs, a lay deputy from New Jersey, 70
marked tnat for 200 years taey had been consider
ing the alteration OF the fundamental doctrine q
| the Church. The consequences OF letting In thn
| entering wedge would be that every minister
must either leach this doctrine or violate his or.
dtnatlon vow. The doctrine is in the Bible una 3
is simply set forth by the Church.
Mr.. Welsh moved TO lay the whole matter on the
| table. This was lost by q tie vote OF nfty-six. H
was taken over AL ain and lost by u larger votes
1t was then moved that the vote be taken on ttIU
Fulton got the floor and laid the stripes nard ana
heavy on those who doubt or deny the doctrine 0e
s e sad are ns o wSe sn
| they were they would tell us that their CON.
sciences are abused. Tho whole casechtsm Is "
be swept away and
THE GRACE OF BAPTTsM
Is to be nulihed II this change is made. We muGo
also sweep away an article in the Ntcene Creed
and half u dozen verses from the Scriptures We
have some conscience ourselves, he saio aud utr
terly deny that particle OF apos toicity belongs
| to Bishop CummIns, to whom these men threatoD
us they will go II this permission is not granted
These remarks OF the reverend Doctor were Loudly
Kissed. The vote was then taken on the question
by dloceses and orders, and by an almost unank
nous vote the report OF the committee was dc.
| feated
| The question OF shortened services came up then
| for action The Committee on Constitutional
Amendments offered an amendments giving -
each diocese authority 10 grant the required n
| lief. deputy from South Carolina moved that
| the change be made by rubric as IT was vrtlAllj
an alteration OF tle Prayer Book and should b @
made. This amendment, on DR.. De Koven'o mo-
ti0n and alter some remarks, was defeated. DE-
Jennings then moved to lay thai part oil tae ooms
mttee's report transmitting the power OF change
| to the dioceses on the table. This carried.
and the rest OF the report, which was Of small 40
| count, was adopted.
REPORT ON PROVINCIAL SYSTEMS
| was next put on its passage. The report satd n
| substance that the Church did not want any such
| system at this time. DR.. De KOven argued ln uo
! favor, and maintained that without 1t church,
| college or university cou'a =. :. ,,r,- 80. .. s,,s.
taou t,..ou. ana rnls IS tho principle on Whicn ten
doceses in the south sustain the University Of the
South. Mr.. Rugges and Judge Wilder replied,
opposing any snch system DR.. Adams, OF Wscon-
sln, favored such q system among dioccseS In Ono
state, but opposed 1t as between separate state
dtoceses. 1t was laid on the table ana the House
sages were received from the bishops and acted
upon.