National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-30
pa yrere very familiar, we9, ygq nosi A

/ u. VIII ADVISE this cOmmfttee WucLucI
Won were sxars, ~ fhs fsct thst NJ. Hunting
ton had an inferssf. o. SIliineii 10 have ans NJ
/ tertst, il, the ORIGINAL contracts that were let
| WITH Mr.. Kilhourns Mr., Iafts and Mr.. Johu0.
IL yIns7 ~ s. Z. q 3 % s- ff94g
The witness. What do YOU mean by
t.orieinai eontractsi'' 2 q llis
Counsel. The first contracts that were lei. !
| e The witness. Under the old eoyernmenti,v
Counsel No; under the new government. A /.
No SIR - e snii LIZ ~
= MI: Mattinelvs Lstta bad no interest," 25os.i
aJOg i VIM ~ Mr.. KIlbo,lrx. Mr., fClepbape
and ,John o. Fsans =, A., No. AZ, Il know poth-
inc, shn,,t M, Hunt,nvtonis, raiations N shrt
c1s7snertion. II . = "a r.--r
81 ne never srohe IN WIN m ths.l nhieca,
AZ M s,r.s y ~ a - y - ono 80
| 70 TlS Won "A sn,v am. ..a h.,,i, bsos. ~
nass bo,i hens ~ NJ Ix,,,,, ,,r,to-, A., ,rs,ch
were recorisd tSa franssct;ons he hss sr,th
| he several $500 49, ns,ne. have mem
tIonedi .A. ID not remember tc have ever
seen Al :, = ~ III
20 Gs,s,, . I, ii. .v,,.,,, s .,,y ,nD.,re.t
Whatever WIN fSsse several f,artissI K. Never,
avaa~t 4 80 . y ,,.,,.r fnew
snysS,na ~ y ssy gen sa1 - S Wy IL. sssshs
B. Wbsi a,S Won las learn nal Al That tmsi' A. I
,.s,.s - ~ u .ir.s AIT II Ia Seer connected
~ 49,. s.. i..'e Is,,t shs naysment on
P.nnsrivsnls sysr,,o ma a. fbe old royernment.
Il al fro-n ~sora d,d Won iearn tbati "A. I
=. M, y ~ ,,r.c,.siv from whom learned It
now. AZ x-or M Hnntinaton, -
al III n tire durinp IA NE aid you hear
him s,seE ~ sny inteSesf That he had with
M. spsysr.i nsrtiesJ No. sir: except as
teynissnei this morning. 80 il5as lial,l
II 81 MA he not saw 10 Won that he had large
fee or concentration deuepdinc upon that
1 aGardt A No. sir.
"a. Didn,t he inportune Won to let con-
Itractf A. No. air. he aid not importune me,
beceuse rave him 10 understand that II would
| he unnleasant 70 me 10 be importuned. ~
i o. There has been some testimony IN refer
euce to the use that was made Of moneys re-
ceiyed from the Government of the United
| states and disbursed by James A. Magruder In
March. 1873. WIN YOU please state what pro-
| norton of that money the First National bank
received or Jaw Cooke & Co..? A. The First
| National bank n. that time was largely In ad-
vance to the Board Of Public Works, with the
| understanding that when they became in pos
session of this money they should be reini-
bursed.. g., -.,.-y - - ,,..-,r-,,,-,---
q, What vas the extent of that advance.
menti A. I cannot speak positively, but 1
think It was
o. OF course, we only want your best recol-
lection. A. II was probably q couple of hun
dred thousand dollars, = 80 81
! o. Was that advance made directly to the
Board Of Public Works or to contractors under
the Board Of Public Worksf A. 1t was az,
overdraft of the Board of Public Works. 1
cannot be positive Il was at that particular
period: butt know At times that oyerdraft did
reach 1900. 600. ,l5sls. D. ILL SOS 4
| q. Now. at that time had Won made any ad-
yaneepbents 10 contractors under the Board of
Public Works on certticstes A. The bank
| loaned 10 It's REGULAR customer, many of whom
had been customers Of years. standing. some
Of them lonp before the new eoyeruuent was
instituted. on their own notes. sometimes with
these cerfifcates as con ateraI. and sometimes
1
regular rates Of discount. Sometimes this was
gone a. tne instance o. sns poslu M N Slues %
Hs.,o..oS 49, - az Not;o,.I Tatroroi,tsn
~ asa,' 90 1890 ~ H. -
~ 49, asi,... u wort
y. s.s.. ~, 49, 20 4, sccr,y
IN acconmo1s.ng .ne ooafu ana ~ soe.h "
uaag a s.sesS "sis "o''' "
q 49, AZ nda,,sn - A.. ~, "A
.Sc.d r,eiv ~ contr.ctors y, yc csr,iacs,es
van Sft. iAtgeiy " eonirac'ois oit eer'neAses
a; = Not very largely. 80, 1.,,,,- :.
". 40 "nht eA.snt &C.. .uinA We I .sn ~
no .iie oSsI ,olsy OF my IN !.
Lhat Is prooaoiy Is niueu Is "e e'er hsu ~
any one ZINE. .., IL, =
iII Know tne II W ~ " mnsn
Mi YOU seE III my s insl .,. 10
MI, s sne ~ Rea IN
psa " IA f-o, ~ ~
OF ruoilc NorAs a1u iIo,n eon.l aeSors oue Y,
tins money! A. insisted that tne BOARD
snoula 40 as u nau agIeeu 70 US mnen We 81.
Vahceo tns money win sne uloers.anuiug snsI
we should DC reimpurseo on tne receipt Oh their
nrst money from ine SoVelnlnent.
linen You oiu lnsist Inis snouio De oone
a. 70 s was sos I 5ss 70 lnslsL upos
u. Solonei Magruoer oia 19ienlaruJ ana
cneeri i9, ne recognizing hls oohga1lon.s
Y. WIZ you explain why tnat money was al sp-
Propriste1 70 nhe payment oi claims o. tne
fEst Nallonai Dank ~ anu me MesIopo panh
Lhe eaclIs,on VI sns rIeeln IN SaFltss
5 pans IA A 10 nos uHoefseano -siat tiiat "as
uOn' a. ro,, mt aware of the fact that at the
~. g.. o,tha ,;,,e m which We are sneat-
sane an re Rant had advanced yery
ins, s.s - as,,t-ac.o,xS n contractors Int
INseiS ~ SoaaS .
A'O n u T s ~ not speaking of the hoard.
1 By Mr.. Hubbell: q. Let us understand. Did
Won insist that ths annornt advenced 70 con-
sSouid h IT. n,,t ~ ~ ~
A. No. sir > - = :, : -
| O. There "a a MISUNDERSTANDING Won or,v
insisted mat The amonnt advaneed 10 the hoard
| should he ratarnsd A 7 Sid mt insist mn
onS1bino 1-- ~ .'-'-es 1P0N
q. Was that, the ,unds,st sn5,no, A Tho.
was the n,derst sndno The snna5n, TINS "a
ysneed was IN antic;1st,on Of this annro1r;.-
tion. and when tbs aprronrist,on was made a
was retnrned 10 ne -f asccar5ino ~ he nndert
standing. - -. =,
| a That ves che ,,onsu yo,, a5yancad "a th.
hosrd No, 70 ths - cort,sctors1 a To az
hoard not To the Contractors eycent rass,hI,1
| In some special cases. e--esf'' f~--'''
MI. Cbristv- However, he d,d test,tv that
upop certifcs.es furnished nv Contractors tbey
had advanced considerable snms on money
M. Msttinply' OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES ths,r
paper.
The Witness We d;d not advance the
nonsv ~, 1tha;r oar,;sc..as -, ~ 5 se
the distinction. We losrcd 70 orr crstor,a-s
and toolr the cer.fscates ss sec,,r;tv mi,
was done with ,onr regniar customer: and n
the reo7,I.r co,rsa If Snsinass $50 -1 -
O. Bnt tbey ysre ,,std- ont of tbis n,o,or,
a. ~. -, -, t...t 49,, - .
tno,S thsrs = b"isncs d,,s ;he r nsnL " no.
count M tbess sdvsncss srS iosns --'''N W ~
O Rnt thess ave recs1t transoc.tons 90
tbey 'not.slons ts;rce Narcb Is5Qa a. NJ
NOT lone since -'',SO -->'''-' --S'o' a. W.
q Wsre vo,, mot o,vors ~ ,ha "a. .h..
there was a controversv IN regard ~ t this
m.tta- hstsyaey az 49, -. 80. ". LIE
other contractors. that there were nsYms n,s
made 10 the EXCLUSION of contrsctors M ,vsrs
NOT favoredY A NJ sir. bssrd ,o.h,nr os
n I onIv know Thai. where tie hosrd ~ al Al
mare money than n had moner 20 rss Sy,.S
there TonId naturally be a contsst az yyo'who
shonld he Maid frst and tha resnItino corn
plants. That Is ali. -'.',--'-
o. Don't Won know. in DOint of fact that