New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-05-02
THE PROCEEDINGS.


June paid into the city funds tho amount OF the
Utey Hare check. The reads, Pay to the order
of cash Utley Hares note for S1,O0O-M. T. Rodman'
was charged TO his account aud deposited June ON
that day there Is an in the deposits OF $685. The
amount OF tho SS 3d. He was not acquainted
with Utley Hare but might have him. He was alb
the city three days IN the Summer OF last year.
beng unwer. lie returned because 1t was reported
that he absconded sprague said that he would
60 away for six months more he would give MIN a
note for SJ1OOC which should be paid. Sprague also
promised TO pay all his expenses and give money TO live
on Tho witness refused TO take the money. when
sprague begged him to away, il only for two or three
days 50 that sprague could make arrangements with
his bOuIsrnen in Ncw-YOrk
O. You testified that when you began drawing these
checks sprague asked to fix this or that for
him " in connection with the car stock. &c want to
know IL you understood what nc meanti (O1ected
toJ
MI. vau Cott-This is nm agency question. Certain
sums certain dates distracted from the city
funds aud for the purchase Of car theater and
bank stock It is in evidence that these transactions
were done by Bodman with the knowledge of sprague
given IN some form OF words which was understood
The argument viii made that Sprague no order
for thc OF these moneys. Rodman was not acting
for his interest but the agent OF Sprague. He
would show that the witness fully understood the am
biguous Instructions. He would also show that the
sums of money lent was returned not to Rodman, but
used to the deficiency IN the city's money.
Mr.. KeYnan-Rolman was Deputy Treasurer, an Off
CIa that he acted his own responsibility It's
another's shoulders Bat we do not wish to what
he understood let bin give tbs facts. and let the Jury
Judge Moore said that he had doubt but that they
both placed the same construction on the words, and
therefore. be should admit the testimony.
PUBLIC MONEY LOANED TO FRIENDS.
Tho witness said he understood by the term " fix 1t"
he to lend the cty's money and take the col
Iateras On Dec 90 1870 $500 went the credit OF
VNfa NgrfFp4 -
turn of the money loaned The check 1852 81 the
S15OO went to the city. and the $50 o. divided
between sprague and the witness, sprague taking five
of murray was for S6CG 33 5000 the city and
deposited IN the Trust Company, bus in the Nassau
Bank Ncrrdys check for $6Ol G6 WAS deposited IN the
Tawed $4,000 from the trust Company, u, the name
OF J.. b Cden ON cOlatera IL Is entered on the Loan
Book W Cls9 R E nnaSrag'n ms nae are r5o we
and inc loan was made NJ Ter cent Tnere IA an ex-
IN the deposits OF that day Of $4,000 On the same
f200J0 borrowed from the Nassau Bank in the
maine of Suracue $1,000 Of which was added to the
$4,000 for deposit in the city funds and the other 5000
was ca, ai:ed iu spraguc's account On Aug o. 1872,
hat day the excess Ia tho deposits was sl3I3j o. Tao
witness kept OF tho amounts of the city
money used. lie did not know where tins was now, as
he gave TO sgrague lie SUGGESTED to spraS1e that
the money shoGId be borrowed 10 cover up
daily MS salary as Deputi Treasurer was $1,000
when he frst went into Trust Company he worth
nothing ana ne went out the same way. tLanghterJ
money 10 Sprague He had no other way 10 g. fix it, for
rprague Than by using the city money II the TRUST
Company had anything to do with the loans, they would
p5 books. lie had arduous duties TO per
form as Secretary of Tust Company and rs Deputy
but the duties of the latter we're the more
arduOus SIagucs collaerals were kept win MS private
papers iron box. He never had any handling OF
5e securities ONLY hy Sprague's direction He took the
Long Island cub note from Brewster's at Spragues
request ana returned II TO Nun Murray hrst appeared
borrower from the Trust Company Ia sep5em6er
In lie borrowed S6OO and gave as security 80 shares
a. me Fat0n stock this being the precise number
OF shares Tor which the $500 was paid by Sprague
RODdAN WEAK On CROSS EXAMINATION.
In reply Mr. Barnard's questions. Rodman SAID that
lie was Tod red in Jail charge of embezzngthe citys
money he indicted also but he did not know what
for; he had been promised indemnity on the indct-
Iuens upon giving testimony for the prosecution after
lie made his statement before the Grand Jury be was al
lowed TO - uOnua bail he was Ill on July 20 when
the Trust Company suspended the conversation about
tue $4,000 took place at n: mouse ne had Two suGa
maj he was very anxious have the witness away
lie said thy would both be lodged in state Prison
~ they did not fix sOmehiDgi' Sprdgue begged ana
Inplored him 70 10 away and PROMISED 10 gye
Toe witness did not remember whether the names of
sanger ana Low (Rodman's bondsmen) were mentioned
saving "sanger and Low will do something towards
making up yOdr deficiency TO the city" he dld not
think that "the whole SUN and substance OF me inter;
view was to make good his Own deficiency to the CITY"
There so much excitement 9oGui Iue ho I4at H
could not now recOlect much that haPpeneG. ne uiu
not remember anyone else present at thelr inter-
nb ne a5 nave or hd RS of the 6 he d
not remember it. He did not remember RECEIVING tue
O. Do you not get the key from sprague and keepit
until night aud then after all the officers or the trust
Company had gone away, 90 down 10 the ONCE WIN
another person open the sale and carry away number
Of papersl A. did nct at least am not aware that
OiG / do not recOiec seeing Surrogate Needer at tue
interview with sprague; he went from the C4ED "
O. Did you not obtain the key from spraGue in Mr..
yeeders presencef A. Now that you call my attention
70 TeY eV auto likely at went to The Trust Coapany
ONCE and opened the safe, but think was hot after
O. Did any one go with yOui A. sm not aware that
O. Do YOU know man named Fred. Smith A. Yes,
he'll a broker IN New-YOrk. i not aware that
smith accompanied me to the safe He might have
done So smith and might have opened the safe aud
carried away some papers, was not OF it.
am certain that did not carry Of sprague's papers
lie testified that his private account during the three
years was large but IL did not consist OF loans negotiated
}or oiher TIe greater part OF u was obtained n 1873;
ms private operations were principally In the whitman
tic Railroad Tue fret 1870 the transactions were
$4,000. He did not Know no" ths money vac o.
lie could not remember slhge tr5nsattIon1 ~ to
end Of the second year Is SV anu a. tnv onu c on
third year II Is $4,000 Inc NlIlu1antV
began in November 1872 spragdes total private ac-
count Is $4,000. He had the first conversation with
SpraCue about odning the CITY money ~ ~,
men Sprague took $4,000 out OF the sinking Fuud he
Tne diyIsion of the Interest was not the resunt
of any arrangement; he took out tue cOiatcf6Is
1sS9. he also got the money fran the FultO
Bank me did not statc that sptague OWed nun S'OoVJ
ana he wanted 1t settlcd he dld not remember stat
u.s. that IS 900 I'm excess Of what he needed had been
drawn ana he placed 1t 20 Sprdgues cIeul MINK
lag be zo lnf Ss Sepored to the controller the
amount on hand and where deposited. Inc Da,dhce
,o lie Trust Company stated $2693l6 &C. was false,
aud all the succeeding weekly reports were Iass tne
reports m gard the other banks are correct I'D Ie
lance 70 he tNillow-st transaction mortgage for
$4,000 was placed ia his hands To fdse nODey on ne
as,ing MN in "a ferry boat and cOnYerslDg about
Snrag,e; be might have told him that II SpfdRue or
us friends had furnished him Tit nm Oai Nc "Ouu H''
TO Mr. Van COtt--Mr Wood his private cOunsel, gave
him The information regarding tue Indemnity winch
acfxa IN