The New York herald., 1874-12-31
TheCount's Complaints and the
Chancellor's Severity.
NINE. ROTHSCHILD'S DENIAL.
AninterView A with M. Theirs on
the Situation.
Th Empress Of Germany and
NJ. Quiet.


Va Arnim and Prince Bismarck during the time
Il former was Minister oil Germany at Versailles.
10 substance o. these letters shows, on the one
Ind, now extremely difficult 1t was for the Am
tssador TO MAINTAIN the position desired by the
athOrities III Berlin, and, on the otner hand, how
Llcate were the relatlons existing between the
mister and the Chancellor. The first letter, COM
Ening OF the conduct OF Nine. de k0thschild,
AviDg been previously published in substance,
e DO not repeat II here; but the second letter Of
cunt Arnim on this point Will prove OF general
iierest. Count Arnlm's arguments in favor Of
rance and her ability to pay the indemnity de-
handed by Germany have already appeared in
he HERALD, IN our special cable dispatches, i'm
nedlately alter the sentence OF the Court in Ber-
kn Count Arnim's complaints OF general ruue-
less and lmponteness toward Germans are lully
.es forth in his letter to the Prince Chancellor
dated January %, 1873.
PARIS, May s, 1872
TO HIS HIGHNEss PRINCE BISMARCK, Berlin
During my last conversauon with NJ. fniers the
latter repeated to me- IN The Warmest terms, how
sincerely and ardentIy ne was wishing for peace,
Tor q long peace, since France was presently un-
20 avoid ali complications and embarrassmenss
Wherever they night ARISE. Alter many years, he
said, when france would have regaIned strength,
there would, Oh course, arise desire 20 recnver
damages lOr the losses sustained, aud II Germany
should then get into difficulties with Otner Pow
ers Tue mOmenb lOT revenge WOulu arrive. but
ior All tnat 1t was Dy no means certain that IN
such case France would have TO rise against
ierranv. IL might very well be the case that In
.uca case Germany would be inclined to secure an
Aliance with France by concessions or c0mpensa-
tons which might render war unnecessary. but ne
himself tIhlers) would probably not ive to see
Lbs. He was tired, Old SICK, and 80 mucn dis
RHted with the stupid and unsrateiul attitude of
ih' National Assembly that he had no other
th,ught but TO Tree his country from hostile occu-
palOn and then to retire.
irepned to the President that could not doubt
the sincerity Of his utteranCes, since they were
adapted to matters ofiact. But his personal wisdom
and his personal love OF peace could give us only
htlt assurance, as long as neither the duration OF
MS 1rm Of ONCE nor The character OF his success
SOr we're certain tie might quarrel with the Ma.
tion& Assembly and nng mis- pOr iOlio their feet
everyday. Whom should we look for thens
M. lhiers repned that the Assembly could not
wish t quarrel with nim But If 1t should happen,
or nc should die suddenly, IN his opnion neither
would be MS successor but an honest bourgeois
Tor instance, Lasimlr-Perler. Napoleon, he said,
was out OF the question; besides. General Fleury
had assured him at recent interview that the
Bonapartls6 renuuDced all and any cOnspirattOnS
during his Presidency. Although they would re-
serve their retensions 1or some future day, they
mad no cnanGes. SO much lor NJ. Tnlers. II Is the
opinion OF al those VINO know, not only Paris but
also The country, that he mlsunderstands the situ
There Is a widespread conviction, I may say,
.tnat general vote can have only TWO results
either GamDetta or Napoleon, Omltting tr1iing
variations. As to the iormer, 1t cannot be denied
that he Is making daily progress in the provinces,
democracy are continually gaming ground, espe-
c,ally among the country population, ard things
than farisians Wherever public opiDion is mani mani.
tested IL IL in iavor OF Gambeita anu radical re-
public. Even the army nourishes similar senti-
menIs as Marshal Bazaine says. He thinks the
army Is thoroughly corrupted, and has no doaot
that 1t win not resist, out join the prevailing cur
maintain order the only counterpo,ss @ against n st
the overwhelming power Of democracyawMcn,
by the way. is only for the moment Identified with
lNas tNnfto OF hn frrrpd IN IN pvnn~
ence OF the name Of Napoleon. Marshal Bazaine
thinks that to-day the Empire might still De
Tnsre is no DOUBT that inc aristocracy and ali
persons OF means. who nave no confidence either
IN Aumale, Casimir Perier or Gambetta, would not
hesitate to seek protection under the wings OF
the Empire. However, 1t Is not an easy thing to
manage events SO that the Empire can take tae
lead at the right moment. The Bonapartist agents
calculate that the National Assembly wlll create
dictator IN case the Presidents chair should be-
come vacant. TINS dictator, they think, must De
these three IT is said, have bound themselves to
can tor plebtscite, winch, 30 think the imperial
'' Hnt nov II the Nat,onal "a Assembly, sbou,d not
choose dictator =? Or II they should choose Au-
male or Casimlr Perier Tor PRESIDENT Here Is the
point where the Bonapartists expect that we. IN
our own interest, Will come to their assls by
demanding from the tnen dictator or unreliable
president a form of government that VIII guaran-
tee peace, and be check TO the spread OF revOlu-
tioDary tendencies. AS l have stated on
previous occasions, IT ls my OPINION that we
partlsts to join them. so mucn less since on
one hand they have no intentions OF intriguing
ganst o,h tne snd
cOvets our assistance and takes reconciliation
with Germany into It's programme, while all other
large and small fractions are carefully avoiding
any intercourse with US and write "war OF re.
venge against Germany" ON their banners.
recognize the canvass Tor the Duke OF AuMale to
lie Just as dangerous as mat lor ambetta and the
8Ocallad ''decentn Republic as 1t would be repre-
sented by Caslmir Perier or Grevy. would soon
xrtu no ~ Cuaf nF
Timers this very moment is supported only Dy his
constantly increasing intimate relations TO Gam
beta. Therefore the most desirable development
OF the present political situation is, In my opinlon
that which. on the one hand, will leave time to
effect An agreement with the present government
with regard to speedy settlement OF those three
mllliards, and which, on the other hand, Will ac-
ceerate the unavoidable change OF government In
time for us to exercise decisive influence in the
Won ARNIM.
INTEREST IN THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT.
may 13, by Courier Conndential
BERLIN, May IL, 1872
TO HIS Excelency Count Won ARNIh, Ambassador
Of the German Empire, Paris:-
Your Exceliencys isv0r OF the 9th inst. concern
ing the situation and prospects OF parties in
France mas greatly interested me. Your ObServa-
ttOns only confirm what have already heard from
private sources-vlz., that the Orleans princes,
especially through their dealings IN money mat
ters, are continually losing ground in France ana
/ also agree with Your Exceency that Germany
has no reason TO desire their coming into power.
Bonapartist Empre is probably the only one
from which t0ierabe relations between Germany
and France can De hoped. Our princi-
pal task. OF course, remains to support
the present governments as long as it represents
20 Ms q ten0ency to faithfully maintain peace.
Whatever comes after 1t viii have to be examined
by us from tnis same standpoint. We have no 0c-
caslon, IN this respect TO exclude the Bonapart-
lsts and therefore NO reason to do any thing that
might inJure them, lower them IN the opinion or
the nation or embarrass their situation. Bnt this
Wouu surely be the case II we should take their
part or favor them oy our reserve.
From ,hs point OF view beg you viii also OBJ
seIve whas have said IN my rescript or tns date
concerning Marshal Bazxipe. BISMARCK.
VHE EMPRESS AND M. GUHoT-G GERMANS
OPPRESSED.
PARIS, Jan. %. 1873.
10 His Highness Prince BIsnIRcx. Chancellor OF
Che German EMPIRE Berlin =
few days ago some one rela ted IN nv presence
a. % s.e res,aence n o. foreign lady spending the
had sent to Mr.. Guizot Repeated express,0ns OF
her regret that sne had not iound occasion 10
Jorm the acquaintance OF that venerable states
man Her Majesty nad-so IL was saId--lmplied
wisn TO learn Mr.. Guzot's opinion by what means
beeW aep Gar