The anti-monopolist. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1874-1878, 1874-09-03
stock told me, at least when any Of them
wanted money they could get it.
LUKE CASTLE.
Ono of Mcllrath's Explorers Gives a
Little Daylig ht--MoFe Timber Cut
than RepOrted--LukeG Gets a Com
sideratiOn.


| Little Daylight.-More Timber Gu,
than RepOrted.-Luke Gets a Con.
sideration.
| Q. State where you reside. A. South
Saltwater.
@. How long have you resided in this
State A. came here in 1857.
| q. State whether during that time you
have been engaged in the numbering bust
ness. A. ThaVe.
z: Have you had anything to do with the
| cutting, during that time, OF at any time, Of
timber upon school, university, or other
state lands OF this State? A. / have
| z. state i'll what capacity A Well, we cut
as partners of Mr.. Gasiin, somew here in the
nelghbOrhood OF two hundred thousand.
y. Did you cut any previous to that
| .. State whether you had anything prior
TO that time to do with the cutting OF tim
Der. A. l had not.
=: state whether you have not hereto
lore acted IN the capacity OF examiner and
explorer Tor Mr.. Mcllrath. A. have.
u; state when first engaged in that duty
a: think it was the winter and spring of
u. State whether you did not take the
place Immediately after it was vacated by a
Mr.. Butler COmstOck? A. l did.
Z. What was the nature of YOUR duties
as examiner? A. 1t was to ascertain the
amount that was cut by parties not having
permits, and also looking over the permits
OF parties to see II they were cut according
to permit.
q. When you were engaged in examin-
ing and asoertalnlng the amount cut by tres
pass as it was called, did you keep memo
ran0llrn nfvonr examinations q :, + 4 =, -.
A. did; but whether could find them
now or not, do not know moved around
so much that could not find them; the
book carried with me / do not know
whether could find or not
O. We would like very much if Won
could A. Well, will look and see: /
think kept copy Of the work did for the
State, but whether could mud it now or
not, do not know.
z. AS near as you can recollect, what
amount OF timber IN the aggregate did YOU
scale or examine during that time for the
State or Mr.. NcIlrath? A. Well. I could
tell very nearly If l had time to think it
over.
Q. You may take pencil and make a
memorandum, If you desire. A. Well, as
nearly as can recollect, it is about Cot, 900
feet
z. That you scaleds A Yes, sir; be-
sides what was permitted
- Z. Scaled as by parties trespassing? A.
Yes, sir
@. Can you state who cut it in different
lots, dividing it up? A. One was cut by
Pat Fox
@. About how muchf A. zoo. 600: and
the next was by David Gaslin think it
was lOO,OOo; would not say positive. The
other was by James O'Brien, l6O, 600, and
20O, 600 by John O'Brien OF Taylors Falls. |
think that James O'Brien had q verbal per-
init
@. These were the amounts that Won re-
ported to Mr.. Mcllrath as having been cut
A. Yes, as nearly as can recolect. think
there was some other small amounts that |
could not state now BY looking over nv
plats, presume likely that might call to
memory little better.
@. DO you know at what rate per thou
sand they settled with the State AUDITOR
A. 50 per thousand, | think
Q. Each of them? A. Yes, sir.
e. Have you any recollection now as to
what section it was on? A. l could not
tell without looking at the plats.
O. State whether in each instance YOU
reported to the State Auditor the full amount
OF timber actually cut upon those sections
examined by you? A. Some OF them |
scaled, and some Of them | estimated as
nearly as could by scaling q few OF the
trees and counting the stumps, and estimat-
ing in that way.
@. What compensation did you receive
from MIR. McIlrath for this work? A. | re-
oeived % per day.
Q. How many days were you engaged al
togetherg A. was in connection with the
government and the State; was engaged, ]
think, "a days.
q How ,npcb ynonoy ~ oil Al ,..,. -
ceive from Mr. McIlrath as condensation for
this ! think it was Sl2s.
q. State whether some parties who cut
timber on school lands without permits did
not pay you consideration for making some
of the reports A. No, sir.
@. less amount than actually cut? A.
No, sir, not on school lands.
9. Did they on any other State lands
A. No, sir.
Q. State whether you did not receive
consideration for making such report from
some Of the firms that were doing business
here them A.. No, sir, not for cutting on
school or State lands
@. To refresh your recollection, state
whether you did not at one time engage in
such transaction and the parties gave You
q note for making such report? A. Well,
was thinking. recollect transaction;
know there was one man that gave me . lit
tie consideration; it was . small amount
G. $4,000? A. Nc, nor half Of it.
q. am speaking now Of the note. A.
No, sir.
9. Do you recollect Of receiving note CT
any denomination or amount for thati A.
Well, was thinking. l know there was
one man that gave, could not say, It slip
ped my mind, but It seemed to me as though
he gave me note, but have actually for.
gotten. ] know that l received q small
amount TWAS after got through explor-
ing, and ascertained that there was some
parties that had cut on some Of the govern
ment lands, and rs near as | could find out
they had cut certain amount. and l told
them that / would have to 60 up
and look it over, that had ascertained that
they had cut so much, and they said they
had, and they gave me 5000. The next sea-
son was up there and looked the ground
over.
9. Was this altogether government, A.
Yes, it was government land.
@. None oft was school or State lands
A. No.
@. Do you recollect Of ever receiving a
note at alli A. l do not; it seems to me
as though there was note given me by one
man; I would not say for certain, it has
skipped my mind now, whether he gave me
a note for this or paid me the money. i
know that he spoke about giving me note
think it was probably the same man that
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