The New York herald., 1874-09-24
THE MAYOR AND THE SACHEN.
Present Situation and Prospects OF
the KeIly-Hayemeyer War.
M,KEON IN "WAR PAINT"
Waterbury afier More Sralps- His "fOwwOw"
with the Late "BOsS."


least large number OF citizens OF New York
await with some anxiety the document which
Will contain the statement OF John Kelly IN re-
sponse 10 the charges made against him by Mayor
layemeyer. Those charges were published IN the
HERALD Of Friday last No counter statement has
yet the light OF day. Every hour creates con-
lecture suspicion and argument The reasons for
this delay, taking Mr.. Kelly's view, were published
in yesterdays HERALD Are tney proper and rea-
sonaDle What is the DRIFT OF public sentiment
When is the end TO come ? A HERALD representa-
tive, watching the fight closely went out yester-
day to obtain answers TO these questions, among
others IN connection with this singular fight.
AT MR.. KELLY's OFFICE.
The usual congregation OF embryo statesmen and
ward politicians were found In ana around John
Keiy's enice at No. III Nassau street yesterday.
There is outside room in this oace in which
are piled up large number OF books belonging to
Mr.. Kelly while acting as Sheriff OF the county.
Tne Dill book, the jail book, the "term fees" book
the books OF process (in which entered all
papers which come into the Sherifrs
department for executon), the check
book, the attorneys receipt booS-these
with several others, were piled on shelves through
the office. Tney contained the full story. far
as documentary evidence Is concerned OF the career
OF Mr.. j. I'M Kelly sheriff OF the city and county
OF New York. But II Is claimed by those who
happen to know the full story that documentary
evidence does not carry full weight OF argument
IN this fight. There are outside facts and charges
which, il sustained, would go far 10 invgorate
the line OF attack, and Kelly's opponents say that
these be placed in such strict array as to be
"oovered with affdavits" as lorcibie as Titon's
celebrated indictment Itself
MI Kelly was found by the HERALD represe nta-
tive seated quietly in the small room of the main
Of
political hgnts-among them senator Hugh Moore,
OF an uptown district and Assembiyman Blessing.
line OF visitors stretched along both sides Of the
ofice waiting an audience with the august chief
taln The HERALD representative waited 'his
turn as tonsorial artist might say,
and when that came took The vacant
Chair front OF Mr. Kelly. The chief
was not communicative. He was asked as
10 the reputed assertion OF his that Nelson j.
Waterbury and William NJ Tweed had consulted
together on Blackwen's Island relative to the
charges against hun. Mr. Kelly stated that such
was the He was then ques toned as to
whether the present Police Justices bad held
meeting In Mayor Hav emeyer's Office III relation
10 statistics procured from their departments a 5
10 overcharges OF his against the county in the
matter OF commitments. Mr. Kelly confirmed the
truth OF the ruInor.
Anything else to say, Mr.. Kelly relative to the
conflict between you and Mayor Havemeyer e'
Nothing that know Of"
your defence :"
Nothing"
When do you expect your statement to be
ready Y'
.'By Monday next"
This concluded the interview with MIR. Kelly.
NELSON }. WATERBURY.
The next prominent figure IN this protracted
contest called upon was Mr.. Nelson J. Waterbury.
He was found at his Office No. l52 Broadway. The
gentleman was surrounded with law books and
the place. There seemed to be an atmosphere OF
beiiigerent statistics hhIng the headquarters OF
this particular contestant Papers. docurn en- IS
and books were piled In every corner.
Nj. Waterbury Immediately entered into the OBJ
ject Of our representatives visit. He seemed to
anticipate The questions that about TO be put
10 him. He hrst called attention 10 the letter pub
lished n yesterdays HERALD over the signature
"a know the man that wrote that" said Mr..
Waterbury.
'Yes. II was John r. Fenows.n
chow do you know itfn
Because at recent meeting OF the TammaDy
Society he made speech eonta ming almost lie
exact language which Is embodied ia his letter.
imDued lim with the manllness open warfare,
which rs the general practice OF the south, but he
resorts TO 'oushwhacking, as. believe, lighting
under cover is called In the Southwest. Instead
OF rushing forward to Kellys defence 1t would be
better for him TO answer Mayor Havemeyer's
imputatlonE upon his own conduct and language. II
The Mayors brief paragraph In reference TO him is
so true and so cutting that it cannot prudenty be
made the SUBJECT OF comment, he must, OF course,
be allowed TO crafty his malice in some other way.
His abuse Will not lnjure me, but 1t seems to be
may be uncovered at any time il would be wiser
for him 10 language which all who know
him Will uerceve apphes exactly 10 himself"
ITO wnat particular point Of this letter do you
reerTi
'The only point OF the communication to which
propose TO reply Is his statement tlat was DIS
trict Attorney while Kelly was sheriff, and II was
my duty 10 prosecute the latter If the frauds
RAP AT COUNTY CLERK WALSH
ua How DO 70 you explain this latter assertion, MI.
al will tell you. notice that our sapient County
ClerS has made the same suggestion Perhaps we
about law, but as citizens who have had some
experience ID relation 10 our local government
they ought TO know that the District Al
torney has no supervision OF the Comptroller, his
his receipts. Ii had known of Kelly's frauds
when was in Office he would have been prose-
cuted as other criminals were; but at that time
would have been astounoed by the mere sugges
though my observations OF his conduct and asso-
GATES since have in measure prepared me Tor
edge OF them until the Mayor showed me his bills
some TWO or three weeks s1ncer
WATERBURY AND TWEED.
Mr.. Kelly has stated, Mir. Waterbury, that you
nave OF lats been seen on Blackwelis Island 10y
the charges TO he preferred against John Kelly
what is your statement in relation TO this ~
~ nave not seen William NJ. Tweed but once
-hihce nIs trlal, ana that time than six
months since; nor have ] been to BlackweIl's
Island within that period. VISITED him to obtain
information IN a matter IN which he had no
Interest, and which did not involve IN any manner
kelly's frauds or misdeeds. Our conversation was
confined TO the subject upon which sought nfor.
I nation ~ such misstatements are to character.
ize Kelly's answer to tue Mayors charges It will
be a sorry budget OF falsehoods."
THE THREATENED INDICTMENT OF KELLY.
: "Rumore are prevalent that an attempt is to be
made 10 have Mr.. Kelly indicted by the Grand
4. Jury. Is there any truth in that report r'
Mr. NATERRURY--It Is absurd TO tax about an
sattempt by the Mayor or me TO have him indicted.
,unly the dlstcmpered brain OF himself or his adj
therents coud have conceived so silly an idea The
Statute OF limitations has run upon his offences,
snd he cannot be proceeded against either III the
uivll or criminal courts.
What is your opinion OF the present situation,
NJ Waterbury ~
well, J viii sum ii up IN a few words. I'm
pared, as Kelly is upon the sharp prongs Of the
Mayors letter. he may be expected to wriggle.
but decorOus silence would be more becoming
uhtn ne has made some sort OF a defence Idle re-
plnlbf and threats Caunot aid MIN in the least -
Ibt ended the interview with Mr. Waterbury. He