, 1874-11-16
"iadstonc Says a Convert to Rome
Ronounccs Ills Moral and
Mental Freedom.
And that the Vatican Policy Is to Re-
ne" the Struggle for Temporal
Supremacy
Manning Answers that Subjects Ara
Bound to Obey in Things
Which Are Lawful.

. GREAT BRITAIN.
~AA@ ooN1Ao4ER9Y nETwEEN GLADSTONE AMI
=, Archbishop MANNING,
rEW foRR, Nov. 15.-Tho IeraItrs cah1a sno-
o.a1 va GlVes tho details Of tho controversy betvcon
dlanssono and Archbishop Manning. narn.
pae1 recently issued by tue former roitoratea h;s
.4o"s Expressed III Ills article on "1itun1sn ;,,
.ao .o'.e'apora'y Revieao aud oontrcs upon tho
peolo''lion that no ono can become conyct IN
t'on'o "''noat ronouncng his moral and mentn1
,oeuoi' "na placing his civil loyalty aud duty nj
H., w. nloiey OF another. He declares that Tho
tatloah Coutoil established even Il widor o1o,,
than infallibilitY, viz: Of absoluto md snr.a u.
obedience. He, therefore. calls nnon - rsas,,
ollo citzens to demonstrate to thu cont~.-,.
or to reject 1t. 10 Expresses tho decidcd onn;as
that tho real object OF tho Vatican po1lcv Ia ~
rome" tho struggle for the temporal powor H.
rfdiculcs such project, but adds TINT It ia dim.
cult to ovoroetimato tho oGocts Of the Rtrifo T.
would probably toopardlzo tho peace OF 12uronc
Ho closes with an appeal to tho citiaous of tho
u, nlnoteonta century To- FOLLOW tho example Of
tneir 3orelathora of the at1teouth when mar
analsa ~ to teslst the Armada, declaring that
a 6n a.ons race ia not to DO binder
1ng her mission in tho world. fA'''@
~, shblsnopaManning, IN letter. Nov, 10. Ia
tno m HeraAl, asserts that lo assisted in framinr
sae xatlcan deoreos, which have not changed
one 1ot or tittle tho obligations OF civil oisIi.
once TINT Catholics boar toward the civil nowar
ana n proof thereof asserts tina. tho doctrine Of
iEfallibihty WAS divine trust boforo the Vaticaa
Council waa held. That Council announced M
nov nov doGmal 1Gt but simply deoarod an old truth
to civil allegiance Is PRECISELY a. hofnro. hfnro.
That the evil powers Of the Chris,
tian world havo hitherto stoo5 04'I0 r.
peaceful relations with the Infa1lible Churo h.
ana tnts relation Was often recognized aud de,
clarod In tho Councils Of tho Uh,irch bofora ia
Vatican Council, and that Council maIe m . do.
o,oes IN regard to tho civil powers, nor on civil
posed. VIVA Pio-
The Archbishop Says "Civil obedience
Of God. Society is foun led In Nature, and @ snh.
)ects aro bound in oil tl,ings whlch ato lawfn II
opey their rIiora Mr. GladHtone's areument
hanes upon All erroneous assumption, aud ] can
only suppose him to have beon mislcd by a mis-
placed trust in Dr. Dollinger aud bis frienJa- js
But for my belief in Gladstono's sincerity
should say i was IN not Of injustice out Of har-
mony With tho great statesnlans life: and m,
leba the providence OF God aud the good aanso
OF Engllshmon avert its OWLS, the consequence
may tarnlsh his great namo."
The Times aiucs With Gladstone, aav;ng.
= Iho important question. What 10 lawful can
acoomrdng S to the Archbishop, only bo dooided BY
Tho Telegraph says "Tho pamphlet has re-
glyed tho nations conliaonco III Gladstono'
The PaA ltau Gazette contends that Giadaton.
= not right in ainging lro-braud into The re-
iglous community, Haying it was none of III.
onGorn whether Catholic principals lead to dis
osalty. 1t IL no part Of d 8tateeman's duty tn
a'ao popular outcry while tho dangers remain
Tho Post says: "noverenco for our institu-
ions 10 not GladHtono's strong point. This IL
lot his first miscalculation."