, 1874-10-15
ENGLAND AND AMERICA.

r, Tus TH1nuys readers will hear from us II pot,
ENGLAND AND AMERICA.
Views OF nn Ex~ n canhcr OF the 6rft.
jsst Cabinet.
Frpn, he Sep l'ork Herald, 0et. H.
Tho Right Aon. y. :. Forhte,. ,nonbor Of
tLo Gladstone Administration, ono nor AIajey- |
tvs Ministers. ID now on visit to ths country. /
At tho Fifth Avenue Hotel, last orening, rep. |
iosoutatiyo OF the Herald mot ,lr Forster aid |
sun of "the Buxton Of enti-BlaTorg fame. III
course Of conversation eoyeral quebtions wore
commented upon Of public interest. and sutu-
lnary of that commentary is given below.
to America, md that the visit hnd to him d no
culiar interest. His father, he said, was Quakor
rroa1hor, receiving, Of courHe, no e1nolun,ents
for his preaching, who had all bis life boon more
and Bome years ago ho came to America to !all
quietly aud without my demonstration. particu-
latly with the planters III tho South, about, the
e1hSes aud their relationship 10 ther masters.
The progress Of this work ho died III Tennessee,
aud it was to nttach some memorial Of respect 10
his grave thai lind been ono of the motives that
| had prompted ha (aIr. forstcrs) visit.
You. said tho Herald repnrtas: hlr. Fors-
gland stood by tho North IT. the great Grill War"
| ":Yes, bsd never any doubt as to tho ulti-
| mate result Of TINT War. It is to he regretted
! that thore WIS, and is now, suppose, II. Amor
ica, mistaken feeling that England Hyn'pa-
thizel with tho South that mistake arose from
taking the opinion OF 14onAon society ns the OK
poneit Of tho Euglish fee!ing:"
''Doos tho preaent condition Of tho South
| case you any disappointment, Mr.. F0rster!"
II scarcely know what 10 say about TINT. At
| present have to take tho newspaper accounts
! 1T the trouble, aud wo arc led to believe in
England that y'nir nay Of giving the news IL 80
sensational that vo arc inclined to think tho
reports may bo oxngsera.od a,u. however.
going to travel Bonth aud judge for myself wlnt
| the electa Of emancipation are upon the people.
I am Watching tho progress Of tho southern
trouble T ~ ing reatfsa,s tefsft sa what
doubt in my mind that President Grant is right
in maintaining the law agauat armed llacontents.
know Tint ol,r experiment In tho direction of
tho abolition Of slaTory In the West Indies has
commercial prosperity. The South showed so
woudrous devotion to their causo In your great
conflict that should bo very sorty to lind thom
not making tho best OF what to them
'Talkiag about speaking, there is ono, thing
that has impressed ME very much In A1norea,
md 1t is this. Though tho people appear to live
In great hurry and are quick anu active in all
their movements, their speech IL deliberate aud
slow. notice tho men OH ehs steamboats,, in
tho hote's. and elsewhere, snd when they arc
| taking tilcy seem to ME to be thinking quickly
enough. but their thoughts como forth tloliber-
many thoughts that tl1ey are compelled to give
them ont slowly to prevent them tnmbltng uue
% On aIIusion to Mr. Forstor's sharo in iutro-
ducne the ballot into England, that gentleman
replied
ayes: sucooeded in getting tho Ballot bill
through the House. and it is now lam. think,
too, o,lr ballot il realiy secret, which. as far
car make ont, don't think yuurs is."
"You have also ideutiftod your name with tho
school question IN England, Mr.. Forster, aud
YOU have done thore whas We have ouly attempted
nore-giyen tho people = compulsory ducn.
tion :''
'srbstantiay we have compulsory e<i,,catio,,.
If thero is any part Of tho tdtratfou act Of Eu,.
tho Introduction cf tue provisions With regard l.
commision, anil at tic ,ilne they we're introduced
in Tic Houno DO believe l,ad moro faith in :l,e
nrincne than the largo majority OF those MIC
heard me. Il l,as beor received in tho co,1ntry
better oven tha,, anticipated. There have bcot
roycral conviction of parents for not aonlnp
ttor children, md III Liverpool two parents have
boon sent to prison. Public opinion aeems tc
indorso it. it is. however, a,, optional law ;
compulsory ,y-laws mar or may not be passed
by d town.
"Ihe religious nueytiou las heon aud In dif.
ficuIty in England i'll connection with schools
. too. in it not .
"Ycn; but That ~ mucl, too large Question
to 80 into now-.wo havo not time tor IT, But
about this He In ono Of mis- public addresses
substantially said, Let tie public schoos TAX,
caro- Of lilo SECULAR ea,,cation and lot tho Churrl
taao caro- Of fhe religious Now that to me is, i,
liciou, aid that religion is aometainE eeparat
from f iii other knoNleiCe. That il nositiou
!. nm always ready to controyert As fur az En-