National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-04

Ms, 900 incumbrAnce upon II, and / wn 70 Civ
him $4,000 in caah. ! ascertained when
came 20 look at my papers, that there wa
sI5, 800 tncumbranee, but j paid him the $50
that had misrepresented, 90 that paid hin
&15 500 In cash. Fie 4. f-i s.ii
9. Then you paid him In all, In cash, s12, o0(
O. And you EXCHANGED with him vhati A.
Three hundred feet, konting on he corner Of
wabash avenue snd Forty second street, the
soptnout corner, with an incumbrance Of
: O. Did you make him deed for that A. ]
either decided II direct to him or to his wife,
cannot tell which, 800 $50 80 -
Q. You had the titlei A. Ihad the title.
y. That was the only fncumbrance upon 1t!
A. That was the only inenmbrance upon Il. :
Q. Was any other person present ct any Of
these negotiations with Kirtlandl. A. think
when, j bought the first 81, 500 my cashier
and vice president swere both pressnt; ! but dc
not think anybody was present when made
the other trade, as those were rersonal trades.
think he and / made them and concluded
them. s5-sT,-ion, 90 ar-f sr4,fs vss uaI o
Q. Mr.. Kirkland was In Chicago all this
timef A Yea, sir.s Not from the time of the
first purchase. He was away, and came back
Q. Did you have any controversy with him,
or discussion as to the amount of money you
should pay himl A. Yes, sir. ~ I'asti .
Q. He wanted mere money! A. Yes, sir; and
wanted to pay less- oil hsssi u. ~. r.sz
Q. You finally agreed upon the $4,000 A.
Yes, SIR. - - frs5tr =I7s ~ sry LIZ .
q Why did he say that he wanted more
money! A. he did net give any reason, that
know, except that he thought the paper was
worth Il. - 20 -
Q. Did he not tell You that he wanted more
money because he had some parties that he
wanted to divide this money With A. No,
sir not that I remember. -ss lrA -
Q. Did he give you any reason why he
wanted the money! A.. Nothing, except that
he had bought some property in Washington,
was In regard TO the first SO, 900 that i gave
him. Subsequently nothing. He came there
to sell paper and trade It for property.
Q. Did you consult with DeGolyer & McClel-
Ian In relation to the last motel A. No, sir; I
did not. .rrr - =
Q. You did not communicate with them at
ala A. No, sir. ~ l-'f r.'f-
Q. Did you communicate with Mr.. Chitten-
DENT A. No, sir;I did not.
Neither Mr.. Chittenden nor DeGolyer &
Mcclellan knew that you were making these
negotiationsi A. No, sir; not that I know Of
Q. Did Mr.. Jenkinsi A. No, sir; / did not
know Mr.. Jenkins at that time. ~
Q. Where was Kirkland staying in Chicago7
A. / think at the Gardner house: the first
time he came there, think, at the fremont
house-the Michigan avenue fremont, that
Drake kept after the fire; the second time, 1
tnlnK, ne stopped at the Gardner house.
that know Of. ~
Q. We're you at bis room2 A. Twas at his
room in the fremont house when he was there
the first time; or It might have been the second
line tninA ib was the nrst ume, however.
" Aou %" no one VIII MINT a. NO one at
al;
y. Au ne yell you now tnose notes origi-
haoeuI a. NO, SIT; ne did not.
Vo you knoWi A. dld not.
:, y. lou mao no knowledge whatever as to
me or1gin Oh tnese hottest A. NOT at all.
". W men qua you see hlSiana last a, That
= was Eyns 70 IeInenoer .o-uay, because
'hought the question would be asked me. My
IMPRESSION Is tnat IL Is year ago since last
'aW MIN,
AT tne Time OF tnls transactioni A. On,
noi nave seen MIN since then. have seen
Inn Inn Twice since ! oought these notes-both
lines IN New YORK; met him twice. l met
I'm once since oougnt the notes In Chicago.
oecemoer Il, the tme tnis note was renewed
y tne oook County Natlonal Bank. met
nm tnere tnen. lie was instrumental In get
ing those TWO notes renewed: I,
, Y; Had you those notes rediscounted at the
|ook xounty Natlonai Bankf A. Yes, sir.
y, WIN your own indorsementf A. No In
iorsement.
Y. VINO was present. A. ID. ID. Spencer.
Y. How did they happen TO come 70 the Cook
county National banki A. simply because l
wanted them out OF my haucs.
Y: DID not spencer ask you to indorse them!
ne Anew very wen fwouia take them up
renewal
Y. mean before the renewal A. After
nad bought al this paper, Mcclellan began TO
intimate tnat tne paper was not al right, and
ae olo no. propose 70 pay II: Wen, said 70
am, TINS Is singular; you tod me when came
% you tnas tnis paper was your paper ana u
vas All rlgnt, anu tOiu me 10 nuy IL. said,
noo, you ougnt 70 nave given mo some hint
n REGARD 70 ms; YOU knew very wei l should
10. nase J, .oIG i .n,s paPe, ana paiu money
~ ~ ~ .iw.1I y sners was s slS tnIns
nlons. VI, -ne says, YOU usu nave
No ala SNo ~ all nnay s i ,S., ri.
". so, w 81 al, AleM tnas tnis
man was scaleu esluentiy, ana tnat was
ig sou traoe guy OF MN; out pc
iS ~ sne PtpeL was al IignL iroIn wnas YOU
'olo me. TeneYeu II was eYiacntiy the same
?aPes anu wn1 la a. sne .,ahsac1ion was Pc
.honnh. 9I sn t t sa,e sianssc .L
IN NJ, II a an s ~ mAAe ssoou trAue
WIN Tsd MN , ana sS a1u an MAKE Re IT, H..
Ns az $500 VI WIS paper conlny aue
= NotsnIet . snas na ~ On manu- anu before y
' ,sne uuo snVIsns VIZ ses mat ~ 49,
'rLaPe, - 49, - VIZ % ~ Sontio,eIsy
1oous Irat sens my eashler over 70 tne
~ oounsy NatonaL Dahk, anu nc sac 20
vi. Spencer snas guI.Iennsn hau prou3nt ~
,one noses ior sape wanI you 70 guy tuem.
lra sau " WIS az rlgnt. sent an ouiaac
aan taere WI on ra one NOES, Auu ne gave MN
;necA iol ei9,,V. wren tney oecan,e que,
i ie p snaTu snem pSy th Wy anu
- IT, r. sn. ne ,enS~eu 9hS
Ssn nm a 40 M G Jana %, an oooi
oaI0u ..sm Sio 49,. .Lass $500 $1,000,
. suppoeou, manous .nen nas sIans9
= gYas me: "nen these osngrs clae oue
lau P0ssesSiou VI .Ism, anu MAUI W my
nihd lWoQiu 20 notning e&cePt Ky 70 geI pos
ession OF tnem as lass as eouio' alter tney
iecnneo 10 pay tnem, ne sSiu II we go on win
ne contract we VIII pay these as last as we
ay any pavement, and we won't any faster.
tney got IN tign. place and nad 10 pay
mere ior repairs o. sneir lass VOTE, ana
2 eonsloeration Oh tneir renewing Si3,oV'
!, ca%e M WIN ancnn anu ~. ma nd
,elan on H. fan aP h anu s saG onn 4; !ne 0,r
u ianlans nnd McCisiI.n,s ,sner a,,ara,
"a 80 Ionas = h-o,borr ~ H., ~ M.
1ant;Iys - ''' N--" u -.
II .I,t 80, Elk ooo 81 M, ,,a,,sv
,ack Then when Il came this fali--my a.
omeys had said to me, aYou can collect every
lollar of this paper If these men are good" II
lad explained the whole transaction to them.
said, sI do not believe DcColyer Il McClel-
Tt-no,.- a., l~.f 4 nnn