New-York tribune., 1874-07-29
MR. JoHNsON CONTRADICTED.
VIEWS OF OLIVER JOHNSON.

Mr.. CARPENTERS STATEMENT coRREcrED-A QUES-
TON WHICH THE COMMITTEE DID NOT AsK-MR.
TuroN's RELUCTANCE TO PUBLISH THE SCANDAL
CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN SIMULATED.
A TRBCNE reporter called upon Oliver
Johnson al Ec = E..! laTeeas. az. sy-nl4s es1
showed HIM the statement Of Frank b. Carpenter Mr..
Johnson read The aud the following conyer-
satIOn ensued
O Do you know anything OF Mr. Carpenters connec-
tion with the scandAl, aud the time wnen u began A.
Yes II began long before the time he names-May, 1873
He about II as early tL4k, as me Iatter
part 1911 or the beginning o l5;. lie waS VO,un,
teer meddler and partisan OF Mr Tton and heard or
his gossping on the suuJec IN various quarters. ne
saws he was rs brought actively into the case by Mr.
Beecher, but he mad been actively N II ror AZ least a
wear before the time he names, and seemed to enjoy
nothing else much as running about the cltY ana
talking 10 people on the subject lie has done more
think than any other man. save Mr Illton nDseii 90
foster aud propagate the scandal and mas from the rs
been partisan rather than true friend OF Mr. I1lton
constantly lending himself 10 tue pans ueVseu W tue
latter to keep the scandal from dying out. A.. 60.
o. Did you say your testimony before the Commit
that Nj Ilton had never In conversation Win you
accused Mrs. TltOn OF adultery "A. du not
I was nterrOgated on that point as the
Official report OF the testimony must show. I was
asked only what Oifense MI IIlton charged MI
Beecher with his interview with Nj Bowen Dec 26
1870 aud SAID That lie simply charsed nim on mat oc
cason with having made improper advances TO has wife,
which she resisted On ohes occasions nc useu IAN
glage which understood TO Imply something worse
than this but do not re that he ever Used e
WORD adultery ne 'ou .ie ona. I,h u % Etss and VT
Beecher, and sealed ms win Ass anu yer
every and then he spoke of Mr. Beecher 10 me III
most OpprObrOus Language, chLIng luau
once damued scoundrei," erlncIng frRhtfnI Dtter
ness and magnity. He tod many different ana con-
Trajectory Of the Ofense as 70 AWAKEN strong
suspicion In my mind at times that he was either crazy
or that the scandal had little or no foundation
q What Is your opinion 10 Mr. Tilton's professed
rectance publish the scancaf A. believe IL 10 DO
entirely simulated. There possibility OF explain
ng his conduct the last three years without sup
nosipg him 70 have cherished the purpose 10 make the
scandal public in such form would De likely 10 IN
inre N not to destroy Mr. Beecher. at every point
where he public seemed 10 be forgetting ne always
rad some cunning deyiee for reviyng IT. and al every
nolnt he hypOcrIicaliY SET the plea that II was MI
Reecher who compelled him 10 speak. HIS treachery
and pe rdy on showing are simply indescrDa-
hle The ecclesiastical council the result OF his
nerdy IN propagatlng scandal which he had solemnly
nrofessed 10 forgive All the denunciaOns Of his con-
gnc nv DIR Bacon and Others OF which he complained,
we're simply and solely fruit OF his own deliberate
trcacherv He knew Mr. Beecher had no responsi-
hitv or shadow Of responsibility for what Dr. Bacon
had written the subject, and hat ~ was not "nin
his province power 20 silence nln' ,,,
o. Has Mr. Carpenter reported correctly what yon SAID
to aim IN July, 1891 A. He has not. Mr. carpenter
told me on that occasion that Mr Tton had described
Mr. Beechers Onense hun nothing but an Improper
vance 10 Mrs flton. and asked ne f Knew Oh MS
aver having told q different story answered that
heieyed ne had that he lad used language al times
i,npylug something worse than al lmproprletyi lnAt
nm short he tod many contradictory stories tnht
N was impossible 20 tell which wac true OF 70 DO certain
that either was. MY conversation WITH MI. carpenter
vas youneuts but IN accordance Win us usua4 prsc