The New York herald., 1874-09-16

showed that Mr.. John Kelly was at the bottom Of
the whole movement, Nay. ss 70 Mr. kelys
ing It's legitimate effect. There is no doubt but
that Mr. Kelly knew himself the day after he mi
minated ioith his dat against Judge Church that
he had made
VERY GREAT MISTAKE.
He has, since his arrival here this afternoon,
been in consultation with Governor Seymour,
Francis Kernan, Joseph Warren and all the other
men whom MIR. Kelly hsi G''d denounced ntH vas as
smSess ns %as rsse q the D Canal ring Tne meet
uary so as Mr.. Kelly, instead OF trying 70 explain
away ms accusations against Judge Church, re-
lerated ms charges ana cOniended that the DEM
ocratlc party dared not sacrifice Mt. 11iden Tor the
sake OF the interest OF any clique or clan. Gov:
ernor seymour aud Francis Herman and
party have tesn .worxlng to SC.
IN his own strength. will not admit OF compromise.
lie says that two-thrds OF the Convention VIII
when be lett New York his own delegation and
that OF Nj ngs county were considered solid iCr
Mr Tiden; but Joe Warren's arrival mere thi.
the delegation from Kings county. and senator
John o. Jacobs. who Is one OF the delegation, VIII
De found tOnorrow-backed by his delegation
one Of the strongest opponents that Mr.. Tiidens
trends wli meet on the foor OF the house.
Governor seymour Francis kernan and three par
ticuiarly chosen friends OF judge Churcn, held
PRIVATE CONSULTATION
at the house Of prominent democrat of this city.
the purpose OF which was TO OrIng Mr. Kelly and
luueH' y CNic OHckefS on even terms with Jutve
one. and despite all the efforts mace at this con-
sutatl0a and out OF 1t at the caucuses a. the hotels
the oreach between Mr. Kelly and Judge Chnrch's
friends remains as WIDE as ever. Juoge Church,
understand, does not care button about the
attack made upon him, ana ne wl so far as
lies IN hs own power, 90 all that he
can through some OF his friends to help Mr. Tioen;
Church by Mr.. Kelly have created to all appear
ances, q very bitter feeling among some OF the
delegates in the canal districts. was this alter
"A u.yn nd.
dressed to prominent democrat now IN this city.
wao WI, nave great deal TO say ABOUT the Con-
ventlons dOings. IN which he asks that his name
shall not be allowed In the Convention to disturb
ts Of n the sun Judge
really attacked by Mir. Kelly in his extraordinary
statement. are
DETERMINED TO HAVE A FIGHT
In the Convention tomorrow on the issue raised
10y the fammany Sacnen. Prominent among the
Church are jarvis Lord. senator johnson and all
the gentlemen now connected with the canal IT,
advisers OF the democratic party. Senator Lord
In hls day mas had great deal To do wi h tue
canals OF our state. lie and has son George nave
done wonders In the way oI unprOfitable contracts
IN the canal business. they, II seems, and their
particular friends, who earn an honest living Uy
working on tue canals ia some way or other, have
taken to neart Mr.. keliy's charges. The Senator
is mere with large number OF followers, ana ne
says that Mr. Kelly has lnvted a fight ana mat he
VIII get all he wants to morrow Senator Johnson
IS also as bitter as senator Lord. lie says that
SG MG Eey n G G1urch the way ne
taeked the democrats o. the country districts
~ tell you what II is" says Senator Johnson
to me. IN talking about the matter "we are no
chickens In the country. 1ammany cannot rule
any longer outside OF New YORK city. We demo.
Old 1ammany Hall, and 1t IS too late now :or Tam.
many 10 put on
and tell us unfortunate, benghted cOuntrymen
that to do what is right We must always loiow the
counsel OF the Tammany Sachem."
Tonight everything IS beng done that can
be done to secure harmony in the Con-
vention. Seymour. and Kernan are working
hard 10 reach this result. Herman gets
the credlt. among the delegates, OF being earnest
IN his efforts, ont somehow the opinion prevaIs
that Seymour Will loom up himself as a candidate
II fieht should break out IN the convention 80
bitter as 20 prevent Illden IS nomination. There Is
no great danger however o any such result.
Mr.. Seymour says he Will not. under any clrcun,.
stances he a candidate, and he made the remark
to your correspondent tnis afternoon.
GOVERNOR sEYMoUR's OPINION.
"Mr. Tllden is the strongest man the democratic
party can nominate. am certain tnat he VIII get
fight or no hght In the Convention or out o. H. he
E be %eco4G our next Goyernor vi HIS
democratic voters"
is strongly in iayol al Tllden. Vi course tut, Is
quite natural on Alr Kernan's part for 1t was MR.
Illden who secured his nOmina tion Tor Governor
IN 1872 aud who. 1t may be sad ~ his peculiar
policy of conducting the campaign succeeded
most admirably in defeating the man that was
down. dow ~ y VIC p"'' = pD'p0S'" ~ 'o An0'Aea
Tonight the leaders from city and country alike
are working strenuously to secure a peaceable
Convention tomorrow. Even now jarvis Lord ut
is now mldnlghu is reported as convert to the
peace policy, and that John Kelly himself will be
to. morrow the chie apostle harmony Stiii he
and Lord both deny that any bargains nave been
made with view of bringing the factions to
terms. and so it may be safely said that with al
the good and bad reports that are flying about the
town tonight IN reference 70 the probable doings
OF the Convention tomorrow, there
WILL BIZ A LIVELY FIGHT.
IL seems pretty certain, anyhow, that Tlden's
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those OF MS lriends, delegates and others who are
working against Tiden, slill continue to assert,
mated. They say that they can lOrce Judge
Church upon the Convention, and that even with
Cnurchs .reuds III the Convention can secure a
large majcrity OF the delegates they can make Mr.
Tiden stand aside 1t is needless TO speak
as the question Of the Governnorship absorbs
every thing else. Nobody seems to care WHO snallDe
Lieutenant Governor, and even the PLATFORM, that
peculiar numbug OF political parties, is not even
dreamed Or II the city and country lactIonists 40
not come to terms between now and daylight the
fight tomorrow will be SIMPLY Tildcn against
Church. Il Tiden should by any possiphe means
fail to secure the nomination. which his friends
tonight assert he Is sure OF, IL can be saiely
said that, bargains no bargains, Judge Church
Will secure the prize.
THE JrDGEsHIP OF THE COURT OF APPEALs
For the vacant seat of the late Judge Peckham,
an interesting contest Among the candidates ior
the position is Mr.. Henry Fl. Morange, OF your CITY,
VINO. IN an proDaDllty, Will receive the nomlna-
tton II Tilden withdraws. But shouiu tile latter
In the language q! the departed sumner. "sticx,"
and receive the Guberna Orial Endorsement OF his
party, then either Miller or Earle Is likely 10 be
placed on the ticket Three-Ourths OF the cases
on the calendar OF the Court OF Appeals come from
the city OF New York, and 1t seems only lalr that
your city should have larger representation III
that court than at present. Judge kapallo Is the
only Judge on the Appeals Bench from New York
city at present. Two would be only lair and lust.
Arrival of the New York Delegation
Interview with John Kelly-The Re-
doubtable Sachem on the Warpath-
He Promises to Go for the Scalps of
Waterbury and Havemcyer-A Long
Fight In Future.
SYRACUSE N. Y, Sept. Is. 1874.
On the arrival of the New York delegation here
they Immediately proceeded TO the Vanderbilt
House, where rooms had been prepared lor them.
The large hotel was lull to it's utmost capacity.