, 1874-05-07

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amined by Prof. Patton. p
Q-.Will YOU bo kind enough to toll the Pros.
byte1y whether YOU over received letter from
tks Rov. Mr.. Swing in respect to the five points
Of Caiyinism A.-Bomo iims IN tho year 1857,
in Tmr Cn1oAuo TnrpuYE critioizing . sermon
that had been delivered by Prof. Bsing. aud in
that article attacked tho dark side Of Calyiuibm.
Mr. Swing rrote mo personal lottor.
Neither Of the1n; ssvoral passed betvcen VI.
Tic letters we're destroyed In tho fire OF 1871,
Ind iii / can sny about tho mattor now 10 from
my recollection aud impression.
Q-w,ll you DO kind enough, t, giyo US your
rocollcction7 A.-Mr. Buing replod to that
had ~
Of thcse matters would probably bo neither in
tarcsting to US nor to tho public: and, / think,
said II had anything to say OF tho subject he
would bc glad to hear from mo. 1 then wrote
him anothor letter, In which repoated all tho
charges, stating, as remember, that to MT tho
Calyinistio doctrinoB while thoy might hnyo
been tolerated In tho Bixteonth century, worc un-
worthy Of tho Intelligence and advanced condi-
tlon OF tho human mind to-day [laughtorl; TINT
aia not uadorhtanu now ~ Mas E1,t tnat man VINO
shngs; that they wefe monatrons to man and
31npunVe 70 eua tau6utesti tuat uiu uut uo'
lieyo anybody did believe them nu1es1 they we're
ecnooiea IN INC TIE OF doao theolosy 4nd diu
nos 1 1enoes enough so eo' oos OF tnela' thaagn'
set.I
:. Tho Moderator reminded the audience that
they ought not to forget the sacredness Of tho
proceedings, and nhoula reatrain tholr feelings,
whatever tlhoy might bo. .,....
:, The wttnoss continneds Mr. swlne answered
tree, grounded. ~ rcco1lect. In tho Christian
Church. and tho body OF the treo vas tho Chris
tian religion. and tho branclos noro namad-
marked of as ofshoots-aftar the doctrines OF
Ua!ylnlam-among oshors, "preaestiuation or
uon BY grace. "Perseyefonce OF the saints" :"
"infant damnation." and several others, which
were outgroHtha. He enumerated or mentioned
sovora1 Or these points, which 10 had long ainco
t;nnar11 do nj oneo INV ,noy yoahr "gI par
think that 1e denied tho doctrine Of
tho absolute total dopravitJ OF man, II there Is
qualification. SALVATION ~ grace 10 did not
rreopudate. Infant dannation ho did. think
there were tnfoe points that were 1epudlated;
Q.-Was thero any reference to the i've points
Calvinlsm Hero embraced Within tho branches OF
thta tree.
Q.--Do you remember whether he distinctly
donied one or more Of those fivo points? A.
defense Of tho Church, and tho attacks had
made upon it.
Q.-1he question is, whether he denied ono or
mora Of the five points Of Calvinlem ? AL do
NOT think ho used the word "denied.' think
the expression WAS that no had "long stnco
Eepudinted," or "long sineo abandoned"
Q.-Long since abandoned what, sir7 AL
think that was tho expression j" Long since
abandoned these---"
or moro Of tho tiYe points Of Calyinism2 A.
Well, now, whether tho expression was that he
had long since abandoned them, or whether theY
had long since boon abandoned, should not
like to SAY.
Q.-Was tho thing abandoned ono Of tho
points OF Calyinisms A..-Yes, think it was.
Q.-.Do you know how many Of tho potuta Of
woro \ number Of thingB Oh this tree TINT more
abandoned. lLaushtor.] -.
Q,--Hal you aver written him letter detaII~
ing tho tive points OF Calviniem1 A.-Yoa, and
T EueaB mora than the ftya points. CRcuowed
1aughter.]
hlr. Barber hoped the Moderator woti1d en-
force order: Il was certainly not IL keeping
with tho dignity Of the court to indulge such
ansWers:
Tho Moderator remarked that he could not
oontrol tie anBwcrs Of tue Witness.
by. Mr. Barber -.Q.-Did his t6wings] faply re-.
for to your Allusion to the five points of Calyn-
isin A.-Yes. think 1t did.
2Epld he say 10" qSniy wniy; Ct .' thoso points be
three subjects named on this tree, Which he said
hs had abandoned or Tere abandoned.
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