National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-10

those notes-in whose possession were they, or
who owned them at any timei A. Nothing.
O. Do YOUR books show who owned the
notes at that timei do not think they do.
| think that all that was reported to me was
tho S25 900 In cash; that is, as to whom II was
paid. 1 have not looked at the books for over
9 year, and cannot be positive.
Q. Did you pay any of those hottest A. Old
Q. Were any of them paid herei A. Yes,
sir; one for 81, 500 was paid by Mr.. DeGolyer,
think about the LIST Of August, 1874 It was
office.
Q: You do not know to whom it was paidi
A. I do not.
Q. Would your check-book probably show
to whom 1t was paidl A. do not know
whether 1t would or not. The check was
drawn BY Mr.. DeGolyer IN my absence, and I
do not know whether It showsthat or not Ny
impression Is that It does not.
@. We're those checks taken upi A. Those
checks are in Chicago.
Q. Do you think the check would show, or
that It would not 'showf A. Ny impression is
that it would not.
Q. Would the stubs on your check book
probably showi A. had reference to the
stub instead Of the check. Ny impression is
that It would not. Still, do not know.
Q. Would the check itself probably shnwi
A. No, sir, I think not; think probably, 1t was
made payable to cash.
Q. Were any other notes paid herei A. No,
sir. .'
Q. That was the only note that was paid
herel 4. That was the only one, sir.
@. Do you know any other matter with refer
ence to any Of those hottest A. / merely know
that those were all paid; the balance that were
unpaid were recently paid, about the LIST Of
January, in Chicago, by sale Of Mcclellan &
Jenkins interest to other parties.
Q. What other psrtiesi A. Ira Holmes, I
believe.
O. Who was hei A. he was president of
the Manufacturer National Bank of Chicago.
Q. Do you know anything about the DeGol-
yer pavement, as to its characterl A. have
known considerable about 1t for the last few
years.
Q. What sort of a pavement is it, A. think
it Is the best wooden pavement that Is laid.
Q. What do you think Of this Samuels pro-
cess-:his ironizing processi A. do not con-
slider myself competent to Judge. think the
pavement would be as well without the curing
process.
Q. Do you know what the profits of that
pavement were-I mean the profit of laying 1t
here, allowing $3.50 yard for It'll A. Yes,
sir.
Q. What would be reasonable estimate of
the profitsl A. About 50 60 yard.
BY Mr.. Mattingly: Q. Profits or costsl A.
Profits; that is, supposing the money had been
paid. =
By the Chairman: Q. What did It cost to
lay that pavement per square yardl A. With
out any grading 1t would cost about LAO.
Q. Does that include every expensei A.
Every expense.
Q. The cost of the Iumberi A. Yes, sir.
Q. Treating processl A. Yes, sir. Where
the treating is done by the party doing the
work-owning the machinery and doing it. Of
course, If We had to get the curing done by
somebody else we would have to pay them
profit. They would have to have profit for
their work.
Q. How was this curing done! Was IL done
by DeGolyer & Mcclellan A. They owned
the machinery themselves and did the work.
Q. What does It cost to cure wood by that
process-what Is It reasonably worth A. By
machinery Of DeGolyer & Mcclellan, If It ran
right straight along, It could be cured at S2.50
Thousand feet. ~. .-... ....-......-.
Q. do not exactly see how you make S2.60
profit If It costs 81 40 to lay It. A. made q
mistake In that, sir; should have said s2.10.
Q. Have you put down this pavement in any
other cityi A. Yes, sir. -.
Q. Where! A. In Milwaukee.
Q. Wheni A. In 1871.
A. s1.65.
Q. What Is the cost of lumber in Milwaukee,
A. The lumber was bought In Chicago, cured
there, sawed, and reshipped to Milwaukee. 1t
was somewhere in the neighborhood Of S11 q
thousand feet.
Q: Did you put down the pavement anywhere
elsei A. have not, sir.
Q. Has your frmi A. They have.
Q. Wherel A. A large amount Of 1t in Chi
cago.
Q. wheni A. The dates I do not know. r
guess in 1869 and 1870.
9. What do you say of that pavement as to
durability A. Ibelieve that 1t will last from
seven to eight years.
this pavement A. lido not know what price
they got. Twas not connected with them in
that-that is, not In their business as contrac-
tors.
Q. Do you know of any other matter con-
nected with this DeGolyer contract which you
have not stated A. No, sir.
Q. Were you their business manager here
during the time you were ayingthis pavement
e. Yvu had charge or an their payments A.
I did.
Q. Did you make all of the payments of
money! A. Yes, sir.
Q. thought you told me Just now that Mr.
DeGolyer made one of theml A. Yes, sir; but
had substantially charge of all.
Q. 1t all went through your hands? A. Yes,
sir; it was very little of the time that any of
firm were here. When Mr.. DeGolyer was here,
If any bill came in that he knew about, he
would give check or pay it.
Q. Were any payments made by you or Mr..
DeGolyer, except the one that you have stated,
outside of the regular business of the irmi
A. Not in Washington; that is not out of the
funds Of the business here. -.
Q. Well, anywhere that you know Oft A.
No, sir.
Q. Where are the books Of the firm contain |
ing those entriesl A. They are In Chicago.
La,
you call "transit account" A. 1 have this |
S97 ,0c0 paid for procuring this contract.
Q. All charged In transit account A. Yes, |
sir. -......
Q. How many money items are there therel |
A. think there were some other little items, but
not in connection with the procuring Of the |
contract. My impression is that there are two |
money items Of SIC, 900, and one of IS, 900; that
Is my recollection.
Q. Were there any other money items in
that accouna A. Yes, sir; but they have
been taken, and, I believe, charged to other
appropriate accounts, but mono in connection |
with this s97,0e0, or anything of its character.
At one time Mr.. DeGolyer had his private cor |
respondence In that year charged In transit &C.
count to have 1t at some time charged in |
lump in his own account; and little items of
that sort also got into the account-improperly
! might say. .-.r.- at
The Chairman. Perhaps ought to explain
that we supposed this witness would bring |
with him such books and papers as related to |
these DeGolyer 81 Mcclellan contracts: but It |
seems, by some mistake In tho telegram, that |
he was not so requested, and he is therefore
here without the original books and papers.
Mr.. Christy. It is possible that these gentle
men have some one in charge of their safes and
desks, and that by telegram the various
books and papers can be brought here.
The Chairman. We have made inquiry in re-
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