The Indiana State sentinel. [volume] (Indianapolis) 1868-1895, 1874-08-18

out his permission, and don U KNOW tnat even
then IL would be best" Why did you say thate
A. Because, either at the time of that letter
from Mr.. Bowen or i'm its immediate vicinity,
word by Bowen, though I can not be sure ofthat,
forbidding me ever TO enter his house again.
A. No. frequently said wished was dead,
and Theodore Tilton came and said he wished
he was dead and Mr. MOulton was frequently in
a state which he wished he was dead, and Mrs.
Moulton said, ''l am living among friends every
one o. whom wishes he was dead or something
than that, but she put il in a way that was very
ludicrous. Every one of us used to be echoing
aud used the familiar phrase, 81 wish was
dead"
O. The outside gossip is what you referred to in
that line of contemplated suicide?
A. II was not. My general purpose In the mat
ser OF Wose % can;;nuanc IN well
doing 10 put TO shame those who falsely accused
me- meant to put down, and preach down,
this trouble. OF course, in my dismal MOODS
felt as though the earth had come TO an end.
Now. in interpreting these special
ietier ted 10 eVsnS snSposs that everything
/ said was said narrowly in regard TO their text,
instead Demonstrating the fore going state OF my
to be Interpreted by the past as well
as by the present or future. 1 can not interpret
check. a man that is poetical, man that is
oftentimes extrayagant, man that Is subject 10
can not narrowly measure his words,
and yet from this writing of over four
years, In every concelVaole condltloh-lh lhlS
large correspondence proceeding from mind
speaking in hypothetical moods, and in all
manner of states about everybody and every
few eauivocai things which did not refer to
me, bu 10 him and his whole style of acting.
@. Theodore said he was born for war, and
Moulton was probably born for diplomacy.
A. Yes.
o. He managed this matter with Tilton?
A Yes, he represented himself always as hav-
ing all the reins in his hands, and such power
that IL the worst should come TO the worst he
affl amt
me, time and again, that he had such materials
in his hands respecting Theodore, that. as he
said once, .'If Theodore does not do as say, III
grind him TO powder"
o. Mr.. Winslow. The "yearning to the future y
understand. was to procure the silence and
A. No, i. wasn't. either. 1t referred to the plans
by which Tilton was to get something to do, and
do It, and get some praise for IL, and be content.
O. The devices :" d that refer to all the plans
and arrangements aad steps that had been
taken?
A. 1t referred to this: If had been left TO man
age this matter simply myself. 1 should have
it, But, instead of that, the matter went into
Moulton's hands, and Moulton Is man that
loves intrigue.
did you mean by this?
| A Condoned has a legal meaning al a gen
eral meaning. But use the word as literary
man would use It, not as a lawyer. If 1 used it
/ in legal phrase ii would have been offense,
no fau I.
! Q. In using the word fault, do you refer to
some particular act of Til on?
| A. Irefer to the complaints he made in gen.
| eral in respect TO her. You know perfectly well
| what was the impression conveyed 10 me from
the beginning to the end, and that was that had
stolen into his home, and that had taken adj
vantage OF the simplicity OF hi wife TO steal
her affection to myself and away from him.
q. And do you mean to say that you had that
in your mind when you used the word fault?
| A. suppOS- did.
| O. You say in the same letter that he haden-
betray his vile. In what respect?
a. Not to betray this whole difficulty into
Il
| ii is. appeal 10 every sensitive man and Guilt,
waited nature in the world, If any greater evil
mother made the subject of evil investigation
1t poets her moral character, for no greater
harm can befall woman than to be talked
about from house to house with discus,
sions as to the grade of ohense, and
probable nature of ofense and cause Of
uhense aud everything about IT; Nexl
her virtue, and IL the public suppose that IN
order to interpret these letters, must refer to
vulgar, phy steal, gross indignitv, then they are
living on plane where do not live. You re-
member that / was aware that IN addition to
the trouble involving my name, TlltOn has also
In acts of Jealousy accused his wife OF criminal
intimacy with several gentlemen of whom vas
not and had asserted in the presence of wit
nesses that all her children except the first were
children of those gentlemen respectively. In
his decent moods he was very anxious to have
| mere rum0r of them would cast an 1neffaceable
blight upon his children. Nothing would have
induced me to make this explanation, but that
Tilton has deliberately chosen to cast blight OF
| precisely the same kind upon those very child
rem by his subsequent course and all that is lefl
| to me, is the power to speak of his abomnable
accusation, with the scorn which such a horrible
| Q. You refer TO some points which have al
ready been considered for month. 81 have
strange feeling on me That l am spending my
Do you refer to the same condition OF health anc
mind that you have described?
state of mind during this great trouble, although
II you W re 10 collect all the language nave
pSed pSeuce at an various i%Sresso5 mSn bad
distress. 1 have. had stormy days, and have
suffered more from this than probably all othel
causes in my life put together; yet. taking the
four years together, nave had more peace and
more profound insight into the wants and suf
ferings of men. Since have become acquainted
with trouble and despair, have had an ex-
perience in the higher regions of christian life
that worth all the sorrow and suffering that
have had to go through to get TO It.
@. Is it or is it not true that in the course o
these matters Tilton expressed a strong desire
that the secrets OF his family should not b'
known
cept when he fell into strange mania a
times. There were times in which IL was very
evident that he perfectly lOnged to be Obliged tt
bring out or to have somebody b ing out scan
dalous sto' y on his family that he might have
the credit wi n the world OF being so magnani
nous as still to STAY at home and live with hi
wife,
@. He com a clause in which you express
profound confidence In MOulton' s fidelity. Doe
hat correctly represent your own feelings?
A. II does. Although Moul ON was n HI
man that should ecJ as an ideal man,
thou hit hat in that particular of fidelity u
friends he was the most remarkable m n eve
met, by the amou of anxiety he was willing t
give by tn amount OF nxisty he was wilIing
TO encounter, by the don- of work which sup
pose Is more agreeable TO him than 10 me
J that is. of seeing different partle
! lIhings back 10 their source, which 1 utterly
abhOr in social relations, and consequently
trying to keep me in good heart, and presentin
to me the best sides OF Tilton's character. whic
he never failed to do. When brought to Mou,
ton VIII ut seemed to be The bad and treacherou
D things l learned OF Tiiton, he said, "Don't b.
: lieve word OF such thin s. and will make in
L quiries," and tn next time L would see him, h
W .uld have n plausible explanation OF IN
2 whole thing, and felt as though 1t was no Us
I to attack rilton, that he shed every arrow tina
was aimed against him. / have said thi
not onlv in referen e to the i'm pressions he pro
duced upon me but until the time of the cOun
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