The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-03-08
STREET CLEANING INVESTIGATION.

Brown Got for Manure and What the
City Does Not Get-Why an Italian
Laborer Was Disch arEed - Political
Assessments In tho Department..
The street cleaning investigation was resumed
yesterday morning at the Filth Avenue Hotel.
General Francis Barlow for the prosecution and
Mr.. RUFUS F. Andrews for the defence. Assembly
man Eastman presided. Commissioner Charlick
and Captain Thorne were In attendance.
The first witness Of any importance was Mr..
Sterchthall, In the employ Of Steinway Co., who
said that be paid ten to twenty-five cents per load
for dumping refuse matter in the East River
scOws; the money was paid to men In charge OF
the scows at the dumping ground; witness had
never dealt with Captain ThOrne in regard to this
matter.
James Doherty, proprietor Of q sawmill testified
that he had paid for dumping refuse he had pur-
chased tickets from Captain Tnorne, and had
dumped the stun in the city scows; Captain Thorne
had told him at the time that he had brought the
witness the tickets to prevent his paying money
to anybody else, which was quite irregular.
Patrick Boyhan, cartnan said that In Novem.
Der last he received permit from Captain Thorne
TO dump ashes and other stun In the city scows
free OF charge. Previous to this
WITNESS HAD PAID THE INSPECTORS
for the privilege.
Louis Heilig, a clerk of Captain Hyatt, said that
the "trimmers' and otner city employees were in
the practice OF picking out the bones, rags, &c,
while unloading the scows; he did not know per.
sonally whether Captain hyatt had received the
proceeds OF the sale Of the bones. &C., but he be-
lieved that he did; he could not say what amounts
had been realized from the sale OF the rubbish,
whether the city got the money; it was none Of
his business to find it out witness received 81 per
day from the city as Rborer, and was paid an
extra amount by Captain Hyatt, his services being
clerical. He explained at great length the work
ings Of the bureau.
James Lee Inspectorin the bureau said he had
collected political contributions from members of
the force for the republican association to which he
belonged; he did not act under the instru ctions
OF the Police Commissioners, although letter was
written by Commissioner Smith asking the men,
bers of the force to give pecuniary con trbut1ons
the department was told
THAT BE WOULD BE TURNED OUT
II ne DID not contribute money for political pur
poses; they did not expect democrats to con-
tribute money for the republican party; load on
the way TO the dumping ground always lost one
although the quantity might be the same; 1t
was impossible to keep the carts full, and II cor
possible to get men 10 work for the bureau; he
made no written reports but went to the head
quarters every morning he might make written
bureau did not require it; he thought the street
| cleaning mad been properly done; the carts were
the quantity; it would be an outrage to the cart
men not to allow them for the quantity loaded
OF Judgment in all these matters; team of horses
could carry cubic yard OF dirt but It was not tue
general Observation-Disclosures at the dumping ground
| the load should exactly measure cubic yard IN
his district he found that the same men who had
worked Tor Brown
for there was only certain class OF laborers that
would do this kind Of work. those, who worked
not get eight or ten iull loads to the dumps as 8
days work; II this were required the men woult
not work at 81 day. He had tried to induce mer
from the upper part OF the city to go down to the
lower, but found 1t impossible; from the Eighth
ward ten loads per day were dumped and from the
Sixth ward twelve loads; witness thought the
standard OF the department had always been COM
| piled with by the cartmeA; he received the time
IRON all his foremen ana presented them at the
headquarters; witness examined the returns; he
had about 200 men under him, and was satisfied
that u the carts were increased so as to be made
| to deliver cubic yard at the dumping ground the
men would not work at the present rates OF pay
witness did not think 1t possible to require de.
livery OF cubic yard without increasing the size
OF the cart.
William /. Peck, of Henry A. Peck 4 Co., in the
gwen to the firm by Captain Thorne; some Of this
| stun was dumped on the dock and carried away
by their scows; they received 10000 Il, 200 loads
in 1873 from the city, and sold 1t for about 10 to
PAID NO MONEY TO CAPTAIN TuoRNE
! nor to any one else in the department.; Captain
Thorne sought PERMISSION to dump In the witness
vacant lots IN Tnirtyeightn street, because he was
short of scows; witness finay gave his consent on
Captain Thorne's granting permission to let him
have street dirt; the loads he had received const
tuted the best parts OF the sweepings; the dump
ing place In Thirty-eighth street was on his
own and not on the city's premises; we could
not tell who else received manure from the
city in 1875 they made an arrangement WITH
Captain Thorne as soon as the latter took charge
but when Mr.. Brown had the contract witness did
pay for the stun; Brown did the ''separatingn Of
the rubbish, but Captain Thorne would take nc
trouble with it; he did not know why Captain
Thorne did not use the dumping ground at Stanton
street street except for the reason tnat the Board Of
reason why Captain Thorne could not have sold
the manure as Brown had DONE The firm bad
never given Captain Thorne any presents; when
Brown aud Whiting had the contract they paid for
the manure, and now they got IL for notbing they
never had any dealings with Mr.. Atkins, but always
dealt
DIRECTLY WITH CAPTAIN THORNE;
he understood that there was q clause IN the con-
tracts OF Brown and Whiting permitting them to
sell the manure; witness had to hire q man to
separate the manure under Captain Thorne; he
did not think That Captain Thorne could have
made as much profit by selling IL as he did; the
city could not have delivered the manure at the
place where he did without No