Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1874-05-25

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you? A. believe everybody to be honest until
proved TO be dishonest.
=. You have seen no evidence of his tishon-
esiy? A. No, sir.
q. Then, if you had seen evidence of dishon-
esty anywhere, you woul1 have resigned you
would not have been associated with them and
taken this responsibility? A. No, sir.
We are compelled tor want OF space 10 break
on Saturdays proceedings at this pointl
To-day's Session.
The committee Was called TO order at a quar-
ter after IL o'clock.
JOB ANGUS TRsrIFIEs.
Job Angus sworn Have resided in Wash
ingtoD twenty i've years; was assistant commits
tor six years; while 1 WAS with NJ 4jor French
appropriations were IN sde every year for re-
pairs OF avenues, grading, paving. Sc; did
grading on Virginia, Maryland and South Car
oliDs avenues.
@. How WAS the work paid for? A. By esti
mates every month or every week. 1 signed the
bills as correct, and the payments were made
cur OF government money.
Q. Dad you put any footways across the
streets? "A. Yes, sir; that is all did do when
ever they were out of repair repaired them
In the second year of Andrew Johnson's admin
istl alton L laid footways on PENNSYLVANIA ay-
enue from the Capitol TO the Treasury.
z. Did you have any conversation with Kill
bourn, Evans and Huntington with reference
to forming a combination to secure contracts
a. had q conversation with Huntington; II
was with reference to bid for paving Penn
sylvaDis avenue.
q. Did MIR. Huntington state to you the ex-
istence of a combination. A. Yes, sir.
Mr.. AllisOn:-You needn't state what Mr..
Huntington said to you; what do you desire to
Mr.. Christy.-Admission made by him to this
witness against his co-conspirstors-
MIR. Alllson.-Wen you needn't 60 on with
that.
Q. Have you any letters in Your posses
sion from MI. Huntington. A. L think have
one at home among my papers; 1 saw one writ
ten to John Spicer; don't know where he il
now; the letters refer to the paving OF Penn
sylyania avenue, and were written before the
Board OF Public Works came into power.
ENGINEER sAMo RECALLED.
Theodore Il. Same, recslled:-Q. Do you
desire 10 make any change in your testimony a.
TO the measurements by which the government
appropriations were made? A. No, sir; none
that know of.
Q. Did Mr.. Blickendeter, after he made his
measurement, walk over the ground with you
A. He did not, with the exception Of New
Hampshire avenue.
Q. Did you explain to him how you arrived at
your quantities A: did.
q. Are we to understand that the govern
ment has not been outraged? A. No; yOu are
not to so understand. There Is an overcharge
at Scott square and Virginia avenue. L was
ordered to make my measurements by General
Babcock. The appropriation OF 81 ,2i0, 900 was
pending in Congress; both houses adjourned; l
commenced the measurement on the 23d OF De
cember, 1872, and completed them the 10th OF
j January, 1873; il was tor the purpose of having
the measurements made to ger the money a.
soon as the appropriations passed. In Novem-
Der last was detailed 10 make measurements
OF work done since the last estimate had been
made. 1 found 1 had not the time to make the
measurements in time for the Governors re
port. / so reported to General BaOcock. He
then said make up the estimates from the
vouchers in possession Of the board, reserving
the right after the money is appropriated to
make actual measurements
z. What measurements did you actually
make? a. Rawlins square and several other
Il Il
have to have my book 10 speak certainly; prac-
ucally the estim ates ere based on the estimates
OF the board OF engineers; don't commit myself
one way or the other; don't say that they are
correct or shat they are Incorrect; 1 have ap-
piled no test of actual meas urements with tue
exception OF fes streets, TO see whether the
me asurements were correct or not; have never
made a final measurement OF any Of the work
except Rzwllns square.
q. DO yOu know If Mr.. FOrsyth's estimate OF
areas at different points is correct? A. / do not
q. Did you make any measurements on the
10Th OF March, 1873? A. l couldn't say as 70 the
date, Consulting Yes, sir, made that meas
urement; the estimate does not appear in the
Governors answer; it is work done on Peunsyl
sania avenue, from the Capitol to the Treas
uTy; the estimate was no doubt left out acci
dentally; the estimate also includes Indiana and
Louisiana avenues, which have been paid for;
IN my measurements / never Intentionally ia
clUded any work done by the old corporation;
have never had any cross sections OF any streets.
q. how were you enabled 10 get at qusnti-
ties? Take Louisiana avenue for example. A.
| had 10 rely on such information as / could
get-tTOm the vouchers which had been paid
contractors, and surface indications. My at
tentioD wss sOt called to the fact that the msa-
surement embraced work done by the old cor
poraticn.
Q. Take New Jersey avenue witness handed
Governors answerl. Look at the table and you
will find CHARGED no S3S ,2o6. 1t is the same in
the table of March 18th, 1878 Take Louisiana
avenue and you will find 1t charged up. How
do you know whether tie work embraces old
work done before? A. did not know when 1
made the measurements. L have learned re-
Gently that included such work.
=. Who did you learn 1t from? A. Mr.. For
syth and Mr.. Oertley. The amount of grad
ing that has been done should be deducted GER
tainly from tables in the Governors an'wer to
make them correct. The tables were prepared
by Forsyth and oertley. They stated 20 me
they made copies from their records. / did not
soc them doit; ! relied upon them.
=. You don't know the amount of work that
has actually been done? You relied on Mr..
Forsyth and Dir. Oertley? A. could not know
without making remeasurementi L relied on
Oertley and Forsyth.
By MIR. Allison:-Q. You say you went with
Mr.. Blickensderfer over part or New Hamp-
shire avenue. Had he with him his cOmputa-
tween US; at street circle make q mistake
by putting down and streets instead OF q
and X streets; told MIR. b. generally how
arrived at results; he told NE he couldn't make
my figures on grading between p street circle
and the boundary; we went cut and / found
vas wrong and he was right; L put down the
streets wrong.
Q. Didn't Blickensderfer show you the work
ne had done? A. No, sir.
q He did not show you Maryland avenuso
A. He told me how he arrived at results; 1 told
him my measurement included old as well as
new work.
@. Did Mr.. Blicke nsderfer seek TO withhold
from you the results of his operations? A. He
did not; he told me he was going to make a
tabular statement showing my Measurements
and his measurements; I did not see has tables
until saw them in print.
q. Your mutual explanations were such as
made it necessary for both you and him to 90
over the work together on Maryland avenue?
A. Yes, sir but / generally expected he woald
invite me to see his calculations on government
reservations. He did not show them 70 me; i
did not ask him for them. I called on Mr. b. at
Gen. Babcock's request. l intend to 20 over
all the measurements made If L ever have an
opportunity.
@. Why? A. Because 1 know some errors
have occurred. knew it before this investi-
cation began; i want to correct them. ANY
engineer making measurements covering three
million dollars Il liable to make errors.
By Mr. Christy 20. Are We to understand
that Mr.. Blickensderfer withheld from you in
formation that you sought for specifically? A.
Q. You therefore made no request which he
declined to grant? A. asked him before SUBJ
hitting his results to show them 10 me- have
made no specific request which he declined to
favor me With.