National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-10

had tina. n the work had been paid Cor at pal
rates Immediately after It was done.
Q. But how was III A. We sold the certin
Gates as low as forty-nine cents, TO pay loi
labor, material, 50. =
9. Taking the whole thing together, did you
make anything upon It, leaving out what you
PAID 70 get the contract; taking no account OF
The $4,000 notes and money, and taking no
account Of what 1t cost to get the contract
taking the amount that you did, all that was
lone BY both firms, was there any net profit
Upon III A. Ny impression Is that eventually
here viii be; but as there are large amount
IF bonds and certificates still on hands, they
ire eating up interest month after month, and
whether there wiz be eventually profit or not
Q. Do you know how It came that you got
IN order in 1871 You say it was suspended,
and they would not order any in 1872, for the
reason that there was some objection to the
as you understood. A. do not
Know how that was, sir, unless the board had
become convinced tina. the representations In
regard to the pavement were false, and were
satisfied with 1t afterward.
Q. Do you think they were false: what were
me facts about the pavement a. think It
Is good pavement as there Is laid.
Q. Have you observed that which was done
In Chicagoa A. Yes, sir; have seen It.
we'll.
Q. Is 1t on Q street that is usedi A. Some
portions of 1t are, SIR, and some are not.
Q. Do you recollect how long It has been
DOWN. A. The first, 1t seems to me, that I
recollect Of seeing-I was not connected with
them at the time, but think remember see
ing the blocks on the street in 1S69-it might
have been 1870; at any rate it was q year be-
fore the fire, and / do not know but two years;
that is my recollection of it.
Y. What condition is that pavement In nowi
A. SO far as have seen, It Is in q good condi-
ton. have never torn up any Of the street
to examine, but by riding over it saw NO
fault to find with it.
Q. Then you think that these damaging re.
ports against the pavement are untruef A.
Yes, sir. as said before, thought the pave
ment would have been as well without the cur.
ing process.
By Mr.. Wilson: A. At IS a thousand for the
curing, there is about $3.50 profit, is there
A. put in the curing at the actual expense,
supposing the works were run right straight
along; that would be about $3.50 thousand
That wsuld cover the expense Of curing and
saving.
By Mr.. Hubben: Q. Did understand you
to say S2.5O profit yardl
MI. !" NO, IL was SS.OO u LuOu6dQO
feet for curing lumber, where they charge S.
for it. That makes $3.50 profit on the curing
process.
By the Chairman, Ito the witness:) Q. Do
you include in that the cost of machinery A
No, sir. We have cured and sawed lumber
for $2.17, actual cost per thousand feet, though
this does not include the wear and tear of ma
chinery.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. What percentage would
you add to that in order to embrace wear and
tear of machinery A. I think 50 cents would
be sufficient. ..
Q. Do you know the expense Of laying other
wooden paVements, as compared with this,
such as have been laid In this city7 A. Only
from my general knowledge of the business.
Q. How is 1t with the other pavements; does
Il cost any more to lay them than thisl A. 1t
would somewhat more, because in the first
place they required where q cement or tar was
used that they should screen the gravel.
Q. How much would the additional cost bel
A. Fifty cents yard would cover It. 1t would
more than cover 1t. 1 gave that without taking
The time to figure it. It would great deal
more than cover 1t. .. .-..s
Q. What do you think would be Reasonable
allowance for thati A. It Is only an impress
sion, as L say, from general ideas. would
rather let the figures stay as / have put them.
Q. How did you happen to start this account
which you call q stransit sccountP Under
whose instructions did you open that account
A. No ones. / had S97,0 900 to account for,
and having no particular place to charge It,
concluded to open fictitious account, which is
very often kept In books. ..
Q. You say that Is an account that IL very
often kept in books-s 'stransit aecountP' A.
Yes, sir sometimes for one purpose and some
times for another.
Q. What Is Il usually designed for-as
cover to some irregular transactionsi A. No,
sir; almost anything that man has q mind to
charge in 1t for that purpose. / put It there
simply because had nowhere else to put 1t.
Q. You could not put 1t to under any regular
account where 1t would be proper to appear on
your booksl A. No, sir; not at the time.
thought that was as good place to put it as
my.
By Mr.. Hubbell: Q. That account is like an
expense account A. Yes, sir; very similar to
t..
By Mr.. Bass: Q. Is there anything on the
,redit side Of that account to make It balancel
A. Well, I think not at present. do not re-
member whether have put anything there or
not. think, though, It still stands debit to
mat amount. - --a-----.=..a..'. -.
By Mr.. Merrick: Q. VIII you describe this
nan Brown to me as we'll as you cant A.
never have seen him to know him.
Q. thought you said he said something to
Tou once about his being connected with the
purchase of some estate out herel A. No, sir;
Tou misunderstood me. said drew the i'm
preston that he was q resident of Washington
rom the fact that ne was negotiating or talk
ng with DeGolyer in regard to the purchase
# the Hardwood property. DeGolyer told me
IT these conversations or negotiations. never
aw the man to know him.
Q. You only know him from the information
'ou received from DeGolyeri A. Yes, sir;
Q. You do not know what Is name was
whether 1t was Joseph NJ. or A. Kl A. No, sir;
have not the slightest recollection. merely
t the time wondered-surmised whether It
Fas s. P. or Austin Brown, but after learning
hat it was neither of them
@. In this "transit account" did you enter
his same money that you say was paid to himl
|. In my journal I entered bis name as so
much paid him, as reported to me, and as so
much paid to some one else, as reported to me,
nd so much paid to some one else.
Q. Do you remember the names of any other
arties to whom money was paid that were en-
cred in that account A. No, sir; 1t Is some
hing near two years since made the entry,
nd don't remember.
Q. Was the name of William 8. Huntington
with it at ala A. No, sir; think
ot.
Q. Your journals would show, If you had
hem here, the names of the parties to whose
redit these sums of money were passed. A.
les, sir.
@. As given to you at the time in the regular
curse of your businessl A. Yes, sir; as re-
orted to me through the Chicago office. .
Q. In the regular course of your business
heir we're certain names to which you entered
hese creditsi A. Yes, sir.
NJ Aa,rioL haro cd bof ha u-o7ld lftra
o have the books in which these entries were
urther with his cross-examination on this
oint. -..
Il was arranged that the books should be
orwaried to Washington.
The Witness. You understand that was
merely name reported to me-a name report
d by DeGolyer and given to me by Chittenden.
By Mr.. Bass: Q. From whom did you get
our informationl A. From DeGolyer &
fcClellan.
Q. Did Mcclellan who is here and has just
cen q witness, communicate to you the in
'rmstion upon which you made the entries'
!. It was sent to me from the Chicago office,
n account Of everything there was sent in a
sitter and the account there with the Chitten-
en- contract was put on my books.
By Mr.. Mattingly: Q. By whom was that
,tter writteni A. do not remember.
The Chairman. Do you wish to cross-exam-
10 about these other mattersi -
Mr.. Merrick. Yes, sir; but think It Is very
esirable before we do SO to have access to the
ooks. ...
The Chairman. We Will endeavor to secure
he books, but in the meantime you might pro-
sed with any cross-examining you might desire
, make with regard TO the other matters.
Mr.. Merrick do not know of any other
latters that we desire to examine the witness