National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-09

t By the Chairman: Q. You do not kno,
whether this contract was made In writing {
, not with DeGolyer & Mcclellan A. IsiTnpl
: know what Mr.. Mcclellan said 70 me himsel
The Chairman We have subpened him as
witness, though you may state what he sal
4 writing until, think, October or November.
q. After the work was under way3 A. Yei
sir. He said he went to Mr.. Shepherd, and M
Shepherd was very much surprised TO thin
there was no writings or bonds made up to thu
l time, and at that time think they perfecte
their bonds and their writings.
Mr.. Wilson. When was that --5a ~
The Chairman. In October or November.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. When did they go |
t July.
t The Chairman. Gentlemen, do you desire [
? ask Mr.. Quinby any questions'
: Mr.. Christy. Yes, sir.
By Mr.. Christy: Q. VIII you please explai
! the difference between the patent known as tn
De Golyer No. l, and the patent that you ca
De Golyer No. 2, under which, in fact, you lai
the pavement Of which you speak1 A. TIL
patent of De Golyer No. was pavement lai
similar to the Nicholson pavement, with th
exception of no strip of board between tn
spaces; we left out the strip of boards betwee
the blocks; and in the De Golyer No. Q we use
no boards at all in any shape whatever.
Q. Or gravel' A. Yes, sir; in the No. W
used boards for the foundation, and gravel
just simply that; and in the No. 1 we used n
curing process for Misunderstanding It. In tn
No. Q his patent calls for the treatment of tn
lumber by some known process for preventin
rot. In the No. Q we used cosl-tar or cement
pitch for cementing the grayeling together
In the No.2 we used no cement at all, jus
simply common gravel between the spaces Q
the blocks.
Q. Do you know whether that pavement wa
laid throughout with the blocks six inches il
depthl A. All the pavement that we pu
down under my SUPPLEMENTARY was put dow
six inches long.
Q. Was there any change made afterward
under the SUPPLEMENTARY of any one elsef A
1 think there was.
9. To what extent?
The Chairman. Do you know about that
Mr.. Christy. am asking, of course, for hi
personal knowledge.
Witness. l saw the change in the saws tina
cut the blocks.
Q. How was the saw changed A. The,
changed the saws so that they could cut thu
blocks five inches instead of six.
Q. Do you know whether any blocks of thai
kind were in fact used. A. did not see then
put in the streets.
Q. Did DeGolyer & Mcclellan continue to lay
pavements here after that time? A. / thinl
they did; saw them at work on the streets.
Q. What was your judgment as to the com
parative value of DeGolyer No. 1 and DeGol
yer No. 2! A. Well, sir, / consider DeGolyel
No. a very fair pavement; it will average
with the wooden block psyements that are laid
throughout the country. No. is decidedly &
fraud, q humbug and q swindle.
| By the Chairman: Let me ask YOU a cues
ton.
Q. Is that chiefly because of the ironizing, OF
| Samuel's process!
BY Mr.. Christy: Q. Are you familiar with
| the property that De Golyer and Mcclellan
had in this city at that time-at the time Of
the execution of the contract, say October 8,
! 1872! A. 1 know their cylinder for treating
the lumber, its location.
Mr.. Christy. We expect to show that after
the execution of the mortgage, the property
changed hands, and possibly was removed.
Mr.. Mattingly. The witness says he does
not know.
Mr.. Christy. Let us see. His attention has
not been called to the property covered by this
chattel mortgage.
The Chairman. If you desire to show by the
witness that property was included in that
mortgage, not here, think that is proper
thing to show.
MIR. Christy. desire also to show this, If I
can, by this witness, in respect to the list that
is here, with which lie says he is familiar, that
there is an overestimate Of value.
To the Witness. Q. It recites the value to be
$4,000. There is the description of the prop
erty, beginning on the first page. Handing
document to witness Have YOU inspected all
the various statements in reference to thatl A.
Yes, sir; they are all there, so far as this state
ment is concerned.
Y. propose to coBfne your testimony as to
what is enumerated there. Now you may state
what that property would have brought at that
time if put up for sale in this market, its value
being understood! A. Fifteen thousand dol
lars would have been, probably, large price
for it.
Mr.. Merrick. For the whole of iti A. Yes,
sir.
Mr.. Christy. Q. Was that property used in
preparing blocks, excepting as to the treat
ment? A. 1t was all connected with the pro-
cess of treating the lumber. l arrived at con-
clusion as to the price Of the cylinder from
having heard statement of the original cost of
it. That is the only conclusion that I can
make, by simply hearing what it was worth.
By Mr.. Merrick: Q. Where did you hear that
A. It was from being connected with them.
Q. From De Golyer and McClellanl A.
Yes, sir.
Q. What was that original cost. A. They
claimed about $40, 900.
By Mr.. Mattingly: Q. With the CYLINDER A.
The cylinder and all the works.
Mr.. Merrick. The cylinder and apparatus
The Witness. Yes, of course. If 1t was put
up at auction 1t would not have brought that.
Mr.. Christy. desire to ask this additional
question: Whether this machinery could have
been used for any other purpose than the treat
ing of wood; whether it would have had value
for any other purposel A. do not think the
cylinder would. The other machinery-the
saving machinery and the engines connected
would have been worth something for some
other purposes.
Mr.. Christy. I desire in this connection to
offer in evidence the power of attorney which
was identified by William A. Cook, the attorney
for the District, recently examined, and desire
10 offer it for this reason, inst it does not confer
authority upon the person who executed it on
behalf of Mr.. DeGolyer.
By Mr.. Hubbell: Q. How large was the en-
ginei A. think 1t was ten-horse-power.
Q. Portable? A. No, sir; a stationary engine.
It might have been more than that; but my
impression is now that Il was a ten-horse-
power. The boilers were good deal larger;
he boilers were quite extensive.
Q. Was 1t q new machinel A. Yes, sir; with
he exception of the cylinder.
Q. am speaking of the engine and boilers.
A. Yes, sir; think those were new.
Q. How many boilers were therei A. There
called a double boiler.
The Chairman, (referrlng to the power of
Attorney Do you want this to go in eyidencea
Mr.. Christy. l would like to have it go in
if you have no objection.
The Chairman. None at all.
Know all men BY these presents that We, David
Of Chicago, Cook county, Illinois, have, in con-
sideration Of one dollar to US in hand paid, the
receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, made,
constituted and appointed, and by these presents
do m axe, constitute and appoint John 5. Cook,
also of Chicago, Illinois, but now temporarily In
W Washington, ID. O., our true and lawful attorney,
for u.s. and in our name, place and stead to settle
up adjust receive pay for, and generally to trans
act all business pertaining to u.s. or either Of us,
hereby ratifying all that our said At
torney may do by virtue hereof.
Witness our hands and seals at the city Of Chi
cago, this 9th day Of January, 1873
DAVID L. DEGoLYER. IL. ST.
State Of Illinois, county of Cook, ST.:
Personally appeared before me, this 10th day Of
January, A. d. 1872, David L. DeGolyer, who is
personally known to me to be the same person
whose name is subscribed To- tho within power Of
sealed and delivered the same &C his free will,
act and deed, for the uses and purposes therein
expressed.
Witness my hand and notarial seal the day and
year frst above written.
lsEAL.1 --r FRANK J. SMITH,
Notary Public.
By Mr.. Christy: Q. What kind of lumber did
you lay, in the first instsncei A. We laid pine
lumber, In the first instance.
Q. What variety of pinei A. What is known
as white pine, from the pineries of Michigan.
Q: To what extent did you use thatl A. I