The anti-monopolist. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1874-1878, 1874-09-03

stock OF MI. Mcllrath for tnaJ last cut! A.
That s6O0.was all paid to Mr.. Mcllrath.
G. The question is did you pay Com
stock anything for reporting as he did, or
6xing the cutting at 800, 900 feet? a did
that year pay him 500, but he was looking
After government lands as well, and | paid
him this tor making favorable report on
the whole. 1t was customary among lu,n-
bermen to pay Co1nstOck something extra
for estimating the amount cut He did not
scale the school timber, but estimated it, and
/ was satisfied it was favorable enough.
G. What amount do you believe was &C
tually cut at that time? A. | could not
say; it would be wild estimate, and can't
say it would be some more; it was my
opinion then that it was favorable.
G. Were these cuttings all that you have
had anything to do with, that we're cut up
on school, university or other State lands?
office. | cut under permit last winter.
@. Did you cut any on railroad or swamp
hnds at any time? A. Yes, did.
Q. Was it since the lands were turned
over to the railroad companies, or before
A. Both since and before.
@. Who did you pay for timber cut on
railroad or swamp lands before it was turned
over to the railroad company! A. Com
stock attended to it and reported part of the
cutting, as usual The railroad and swamp
land cutting was reported to Mr.. Mcllrath,
and the government was reported to the Sur
vevor General.
q. When and what amount did you pay
to Mr.. McIlrath for cutting on railroad and
swamp land. A. That | don't remember.
The years would he 1867 and 1878, and
was cut by O'Brien 4 Fox.
q. State as near as you can the amounts
paid to Mr.. McIlrath for these cuttings.
A. These years we did not cut any on
school lands. The amount | cannot state
clearly For cutting of 1867 cannot state,
It is SO long ago. 1t would be SO per NJ.
paid at that rate for whatever was reported
G. Were you intimate with Colnstock
A. was quite familiar with him
G. Did you have any talk with him
about the making of reports to Mr. McIlrath
A. did. | recollect his telling me, as a
justification for taking this extra compensa-
ton from US, thNt Mr.. McIlrath did not re-
port all he reported to him, and he might
Just as iceLL hare his share. He stated that
he knew this as fact, because he kept a
memorandum and he examined and COM
pared Mcllrath's report, and they did not
correspond.
@. When was this? A. This was after
he had been acting as explorer for McIrath
about two years
Q. DO you know of any other persons or
parties having cut timber on university
lands? A YES, do. The winter before 1
cut this timber without a permit, which was
in the winter of 1869, Mcdonald & McDou-
gall cut on this same section that we tres
passed on the following winter Comstock
came there on his tour looking mp trespass
in the spring Of 1869, and stopped at my
camp. |, knowing that they had
tespassed, told Mcdonald to tell
Comstock about it, and he would
get OFT easier. He done SO, and Comstock
and him went out and looked at it. They
were not gone but short time. They could
not have done more than estimate the num-
Der of feet.
@. What was the report of Comstock as
to that cutting. A. do not know; do not
know anything further as to what they did
do.
@. Do you know how much, or about
how much Mcdonald & McDougall did cut
then. A. can only guess. was through
their work, and would estimate it to be not
more than 100, 600, perhaps less.
Q. Do you know of others cutting.
A. Not of my own knowledge. I learned
that O'Brien, after he and | separated, cut
on the same section in l86A7O. | think.
Whether under permit or not don't know
@. Was the timber on that section of
good quality. A. 1t was very fine, large
timber.
@. What was it worth 2. A. So at least
Q. Did you learn how much he cut A
may, but have forgotten.
@. What was O'Brien's full name? A.
John O'Brien. He lives at Taylor's Falls