The New York herald., 1874-07-27

E chuIch" AND thereupon MIR. Bowen curious
70 kho" the reason. l, III "a solitary phrase said
tnat there was personal, domestic reason why |
could not go there consistently with my self
respect-that Mr.. Beecher had been unhandsome
IN his approaches TO my vile. That is the sum
and substance OF all have ever said on this SUD
ject TO the very few people TO whom have spoken
OF Il.
z. 1t was on that occasion that you agreed upon
the letter which demanded Mr. Beecher TO leave
the PIT A. Yes, sir, that was the precise occa-
o. You think that was on the 2sth of December
dcation that have III my mind is that 1t was near
Christmas.
q. Wneu were you dismissed from the Unionp A.
the last night OF the year. tHink.
q. The 3lst, was ItP A. Yes SIR.
Q. When aid you first learn that Mr.. or Mrs
Beecher had in any way communicated facts to
Mir. Bowen which lnnamed HIM IN the matter OF
your dismissal A. learned that IRON Mr.. Beecher
amseii on Tue day after ms apology was writ
ten; 10 was the I'd, possibly the 80, OF Janu-
airy it was in Mr.. Moulton's front room; Mr.
Beecher came IN, IL was an unexpected
meeting; he burst out in an expression
Of great sorrow to me, and said he hoped
the communication which he had sent TO
me by MI Moulton was salts iactory TO me; he
then ana there told Mr.. Moulton he mad done
wrong, not so much as some others had reierrlng
70 his wlie, who had made statements TO Mr..
Bowen that ought TO zoe unmadel. and he there
volunteered to write letter to Mr. Bowen con
cernng the iactS which he had misstated
2. DO you say THAT that was the first time that
YOU knew that Mr. Beecher or mrs. Beecher had
gwen Mr. Bowen any norna. ion or had had any
conversation with him on the subjectl A. Yes.
SIR; dld not know that Mr.. Beecher had given
lntlmateI 10 me that there was something
O. When did Mrs. Tton intimate that to youl A.
In December she told me OF visits which Mrs.
Beecner mad made to her and OF testimony which
they wanted 10 get.
q. " nat time III DecemberP A. do not know.
q. Was 1t before or after the publication of your
vaedictory in the independently A. do not re-
member; Mrs. Tilton spoke to me number OF times
ol the enmIty which Mrs. Beecner mad lop some
strange reason connected with Mrs. Morse MRS.
Illton's motherl there was conspiracy between
Mrs. Morse and Mrs. Beecher before September:
the truth is that Mrs. Tilton's confession was made
also to her mother, and the mother naturally
wanted 10 protect the daughter and she made a
KIND of alliance with Mr. Beecher, ana Mrs.
Beecher took part IN IL; there was a desire on
their part to protect Elizabeth.
q. You y that Mrs. Tllton referred some time
IN december TO the fact tnat Mrs Beecher mad in.
teriered IN your matters A. Not that she had
terlered in my matters, but that Mrs. Morse and
MRS. Beecher were coueaguing together With
reference TO me.
q Are you able to fix that date ? A. 1t was
@ Was any of it before the 22d of December,
think your A. Yes think early in the summer,
but do not know.
Q. ANY time In December was Mrs. Tilton
separated from you with her family A. Not that
remember; Mrs. Tton went lew weeks to make
a visit at her mothers.
Q. DO you remember the occasion OF sending for
was separated from you A. les, sne was at her
mothers.
z. DO you remember telling her that you were
about to be dismissed from the Union, and that
she must return to you and live with you TO pre-
vent ltS Did you tell her anything OF tnat2 A.
u
one way the other.
Q. Did you that day send a letter by ser.
want by the name Of Ellen. directing the person IN
whose house she was to return your children to
your house in her absenccr A. do not recoect
It; Mrs. Morse had the children, and told Ellen
Dennls 10 bring them home; 40 not remember
the time,
q. DiG you send note by herr A. / sent quite
peremptory message.
q. And the children came9 A. Yes, or were
brought; tliinA there was only one.
q. Did your wife come late in the evening after
A.. | remember. |
senally or Elizabeth, and told her she was dong
wrong III staying away; have no distinct reco-
lection oi so many details.
q. How long after that return was it that this
statement wnicn you say she made, and which
was paced III Mr. Moulton's hands, was written Z?
~ DO not know; have no means OF knowing;
the date OF ner giving the letter Tor the interview
cember.
Q. The object of giving the letters was to bring
about an interview between yoE ana MIR. Beecher
that there might be reconciliation, and that
Mr.. Beecher might aid in saving you from dis
Tllton thought That my retirement from the papers
was due III some way TO Mr. and Mrs. Beecher,
Mr.. Bowen unless there some reconciliation
between Mr.. Beecher and myself, her secret would
be exposed, and she begged me to have an inter-
view witn him, and wrote no:e to that effect.
z. Have you that notey A. decline to an
swer.
Q. WIN you produce it? A. l decline to an.
swer. decline to answer because you know the
lact ready.
Z. You say that note was written on the 2sth
Il
tne subject here I'm the statement which he had
read somewhere.
BY Mr.. Hill.-Cau you refer to note written by
you TO tlIenl DO you think that had a date at
tached which would fix the time? A. do not
know; remember Ellen to have had something
to do with the return OF one OF the children 1
think that note was written to Mrs. Morse.
z. Was not the subject OF the interview between
you and Mr.. Beecher Tor the purpose OF inducing
him TO aid i'll preventing your dismissal A. No
more tnan 1t had with tnls investigation; the sole
purpose OF that interview was this Mrs Iilton
Beecher Of
coming INTO collision; for her sake at heI request,
had this interview; 1t was solely IN reference TO
O. 1t was two days before your final dismissal,
and pending the question whether you should be
Retained or notS A. My dismissal from the Union
came after that interview; 1t took effect the last
night OF the year; my interview with M Beecher
had nothing to do with that
BY General Tracy-It was two days before it, and
pending the question OF whether you would be dis
documents themselves. think, snow tnat my in.
tervlew with Mr. Beecher was after my dismissal
from The Union.
@. That interview was on the 29th, and your dis.
missal was on the 3lst. Then that interview was
before your dismissal, ana pending the question
whether you would be retained or dismissed, was
1t not A. The question OF my dismissal was de-
cided in the lash OF eye: ! never knew that
there any sucn question; |, two or three days
previous TO inc interview with Mr.. Beecher mad
niled up contracts. one 10 be editor OF the Union
Dr five years and the other TO be chef contributor
OF the independent, and there was no pending
question.
q. Was not your contract to be editor of the
the Itdependeat, signed previous to the publica-
tion OF your valedictory IN the IndependentY A.
They were signed very near that time.
O. Was not the interview at which Mr.. Johnson
was present at Mr.. Bowen's house on the 26th OF
December A. Yes. Sir.
Q. The interview with Mr.. Beecher was on the
29th A. cannot say precisely.
z. Your final dismissal rom the Union was on
the 31st A. cannot say yes, unless the letters
VIII snow.
q. win you tell US why 1t was that having been
sessed OF this tnlorma ton Tor SIX months with
out any desire to communicate it to Mr.. Beecher,
you were seized with desire 10 communicate that
Information TO him or ABOUT the 29tn OF Decem-
bery A.. Yes sir; because Mrs. 1lton feared that
Mr. Beecher Mr. Bowen and were IN danger OF
such clash and collision that the family secret
would be exposed, and iet that there was neces-
sity for o reconciliation, and she begged and
prayed me to be reconciled WITH Mr.. Beecher and
on her account and for her sake / said would
have an interview with him.
q. VIII you explain why the difficulty you had
with Mr. Bowen in regard to the HedeDeadent and /