National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-04

tie frst place. would not iuount 70 much, AID
az not cars about ilyolvlng myself In that gsy
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thet e ta.i :ysot Sc soald .pai Asif d them .
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Ing, ena iasys never recsivsd one csst from
Pabilo Works moi o1s cent; nor An ints1ssssd
In s2y Of expect, TO receive aoy.
half Of these notes or half Of the proceeds of
these notesf A. Simply - I stated. He stated
a. NJ NJ S Stew o. p " yoa know ina. n.
used your name, or made his intimations to that
effect, as reason for getting this $1,000 In notes
by Mr.. Thurman: 9. Hare you any ides what
ne did With any Of that money, except What ne
e f sss s as ss..a h . In: :
70 say, in the whole transaction the only persons
shss seemed e 3 interested IN the ssf were
I Q. Do you know With whom ParsOn Brown was
ae9u. Hn, II hsrSf a NO. sIs !, p,,,, p,ov,,
A. No, sir; did not. He was very peeuiia<
mau, @ whom did not take much Of ahking.
there. Sd no ss.S q ssss ais. ss nssis
BY M: Wilson o. pa yoa see these notes
| showed them to me. ~ 81 ~ 2 p -
| O. Where did no show thom TO you A. In the
! Q. Was helm there with these notesf A. Yes,
SIR; and desired me 70 retain, and offered me half
| ofthem; think he said half
q. What portion Of the go, 900 did he offer your
"A. He did not mention; He said II wanted part
! Q. did yoq know whore he nsgotiated those
9: H.ys you any impression .. e, vhsr. b. ne;
obtained II from him Y this: This note was paid.
5a S sHs sS
and invested them thsrs in real estate; and that
How a1i long va. that amer
he offered you part o. theml A. That was
probably some mouths, He len Washington, II
BY Mr.. Wilson: q. He got Chicago property for
them, did he notf A. That Is what he told me-.
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know that from an intiuiation that Was dropped
by gentleman from whom he purchased that
notes inferred that the Transaction was oonnsoted
with the Chicago affair.
q: who was that gentlemanf A. That was
q. Where docs he liver A. In Washington.
By MI. Thurman: @. Was Il real estate In
Washington that he gotf A. Yes, SIR. He made
some sort OF IN Arrangement by which he vas TO
and l. j, think. The way in which 1 knew that
was through Major Wiles telling me that Kirt-
land hsd bought that house and wanted Il axed
had broken into the house and stolen the lead
pipe He said that he wanted Il fixed up for Klrt-
Iana A sSem ssssd him hsSi1 some Gu
he said the transaction had fallen through.
By Mr.. Thurman: O. He ultimately did not get
BY mr. wilson: O. Do you know Of that money,
or any portion OF It, having gone, by some cir
enit9ls route, out Of Kirtiand's handsf A. No,
q. You do not know what became Of II other
than this Chicago trade. A. No, sir;
q Do you know man named Ira Holmesf A.
q. You never saw such . mani A. No. sir; not
q. Mr. Grsysou. you say, Is the fathsrInlsu Of
Kirtlandf A. Yes, sir. ,ll 81 SIC l5tE6 = lIggs
Q, DO you know Or his having any contract with
the Board OF Public Works: A. ] ha7e no knoWi- |
edge on that point at all. s.gr 81
| q. Have you any Information that he hadf A.
have not, but l am inclined 70 think that he
Q. Your testimony thus far has been directed
to the DeGolyer Mcclellan contract, and some |
man. Did Mr. Kirkland ever come 70 ysu In |
reference to another contract than the DetioIyer
Mcclellan. A. think that he once mentioned |
but what It was do not remember. It seems to |
me IL was in regard to sewerage, but am not
q. Was It not paving contractf A. think |
q. Was he soliciting your aid In the matter
Q. When was THAR A. DO not remember Il |
must have been In the succeeding summer.
Da he ySSH any intims0n in regard to
Q. None whatever A. No, SIR; told him
that thought he had better keep out Of the con-
q. Where did he get this Deoolyer & McCIeI.
Ian contractf A. do not know, sir. was not |
aware that had been awarded until, think, KIrt- |
O. Who got IL in possession. Aldo net know. |
q. Have you any recollection Of ever seeing It |
at your storss A. No. sir; do not think ever
o. Did you ever see ths. svsrdi I am not
speaking of the contract. A. No, sir; never saw
Q. You never saw that ct your store: A. No,
sir; so far as can remember, I never saw It, I
BY hr. Thurman: q. Did you ever see Parson
Brown in your storef a. Yes, sir; he would call
q, While this thing was going ont A. Yes,
: o. While the contract was being solicited, A. |
Nc 5d 50; sos 3! sI HIM hsi S. sSst Y..
him both before and amer. had no Idea ct ali |
that he had any interest ia the matter. 30
for srs Ter 4. wsi, thought e may Be- he
was JUST simply spendingsa pleasant time here.
By Mr. % SavS 10 w yaSE gss he sas NTH
he camo IN with Mr.. ChIttenden, and s0metimes
Kirkland, and sometimes dropped in and sat down,
his brow. cScisnssd lew Sosds. and vent Cd. '
Q. With whom did he exchange Eordss A.
viii %y:s SIR was the only Sd, one h va sn:%
O. The irst you knew Of Mr.. Chittsnden was
about February, 1877! A. I think L was some
q. Had you ever seen him before that timer A.
d. Do you reeollect who introduced yOus A. I
q. Where were you introducsdf A. At the
store. 1 saw him quite frequently.
q. Did YOU meet him al his room In the hotel, |
q. Did you ever see him at the Arlington hotel,
@. He always came to soc your A. Yes, sir.