National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-02

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talking about your own motives; you ought Z
know them. A. Wen, I shah moi tell whal
q. You shaw nou A. wh,shoular,
q Because 4 is proper. I want 70 ksov
give him, that money. for those notesl Is
NJ. Stewart That 8 the very essence ofiths
thing that We want TO know 81
|. ), A. Z. Msh. i cannot give you any othsr answs'
By Mr.. ThurmaH: Q. Just repeat the answer
A. That he was an old friend.
%. You gave him. or ofiersd-to gfye him
sS6, 900, in notes because be vas an old friend;
was that III A. foulcan call = ss6, 900, IL you
have mind to.
@. That Is what they purported 10 be, We
know whether they we're good Or net; We have
plenty of testimony on that subject: You
offered to give him the $50 900 because he was
an old friend, did you'll a. Yes. =, !,
O., Were you very wealthy man them A.
3. Which do you suppose was worth the
most, he OF you, at that very tirnei A. 7 told
you I did not know anything about bis circum-
q. But YOU Just proposed ,ebecsnse he was an
old friend, TO give him ss6,Ooe. II was no.
charity, then, iE was friendship that induced
YOU to do III A. He said itwould be very
charitable act. I was o very liberal man,
know that. .ll5-
Q. Nowwe will come back o little, and we
viii come down to this thing again; because, If
you stay here until the endief tho session you
shall answer All afn perfectiy willing and
perfectly frank TO answer any question, taga
O. Yes, we see how frank you are. Who
frst spoke 10 you on, this subject, Chittenden
to YOU, or YOU to Chittendeni A. Mr. Chit
tenden tome. rs s-ss ~, = 5.s--s ..-,5s,s.
! O. How long had you been -hs-, before
Chittendens spoke to yeuf Id know
how long had been here before. -. II --.,.s
q. Have you. any idea, A. No, sir. 49,
yo1 on the subject. Where was that, 4 It
was. in his room. saw large envelope ad-
dressed to Hon. A. R. Shepherd. II was
spelled with two p's. Says /, Mr.. Chittenden,
he don't spell his name with two p's. !" SWELL
he said, somebody in Chicago did !" or some
thing of that kind, and tore n OFF and put on
another envelope, and spelled his name cor
rectIy. That led to-he asked me then If I
knew him. / told him no. He told me what
he wasiafter. ag-aii l5s.4 az .sJ-s5s a..
{ @. Go on and tell the whole conversation.
A believe that was all, s1! f'4H ,bsiae-g a
| O. That was all that conversation. Did he
propose to you to assist him at that timei A.
No; Itold himthat had heard q certain party
| q. You told him what I did not hear you.
could control a Contract, and, il possible, /
would assist him. ,4.-s'- -
O. Won toni him that there q. was a certain
marty Who could control coutractl A. Yes.
o. Did YOU mention the name of that partyl
A. did 7--,--- -. -,
Q. Who was i'll A. Mr.. Page. l....--7
@. That you could probably assist him with
him. in connection with Mr.. Page. and n he
could do ANYTHING should. as friend, say
ali that could for him. -, ~.
o, Was that at this frst conversation, A. I
do not remember whether II was the first or
not, or the second. / was IN his room fire.
uueutIy, rrrf r.srs /. rz-aaaE
o. Did YOU bring him in connection with Mr..
Pagea A. l did. ~ ..114.t..' can. .sszz.1 s--
O. Did he make a bargain with Mr.. Pare?
A. think he did. -" - = : .
o. To pay Mr.. Page so much7 A. Yes,
think so, frs---' -,-.t.rgs r,.-.- .
o. Was II Pape. or PAGE & Dentl A. Mr..
PAGE. 80. :, -. =.
B, Then that bargain with Page was indie
pendent entirely of bis bargain with YOU? A, I
had no bargain with him at all at that time.
O. When did YOU make a barpain with hin7
o. How lonr after, A. / do not remember.
sir,
O. About when, A. I do no. remember
o. Can Won no. recollect the month, A. 1
cannot. - ~ - ~
@. Was II winter, spring, or summer, A. 1
think It was ia the spring. I think Mr.. Chit
tenden's testimony-he is man of figures and
I an, not-I think his testimony is all right on
th,t. do not remember what month i was.
o, You do not remember that A. No. sir.
3. What was your bargain with hint A.
Fifty cents square yard. :. 49,. ss..a9 -,
O. Howl A, IL was flfty cents a square
vord and certain exnenses TO be deducted from
that. > . - - > . f.sa-G y 81
O. You we're to have ffty cents a square
yardl A. Less some expenses; yes, sir. 49,
o. In case the contract was awarded A..
He had fifty cents margin, he told me, and I
o. What were those expensesl A, He
didn't tell me what they were. He didn't ask
me what | did with the balance, and I didn't
ask him what the expenses were.
O. You did mott a. No, sir. E-rt
}, d. You do not know. then. what those ex
penses would bel A. No, sir. srs- ~. ara
: @. How did you know, then, that It was to
be SO cents that You were to geti A. 1 didn't
know that. - ~ -. - $50
O. He was 70 give Won so cents a square
yard, less certain expenses, upon the awarding
Of contract What were you to do for that
larpe co1siderstioni A. He was to get the
award. ,i,T - 1890 -. /. -
o. Who was to get the awardi A. DsGol-
yer g. Mcclellan. s.
Q. What were you TO dol A. That was not
stated In the contract 1890
I. O. Howl A, There was nothing said about
that. Z, d.. ~. 49,
O., Nothing said about what you were to dol
A. No, sir. = -, -
O. Did he promise you that without any un-'
Outstanding of what you were to dol A. Yes,
SIR.
o. None at an A. None, at all.
O. Did you tell him Of anybody that you
had influence witbi. A. No, SIR.
o, Not at ain A. didn't suppose that
had any influence with anybody.
O. You held out no idea to him that YOU
had any infiuencsi A. No, SIR. He had seen
me IN communication with certain parties.
and be thought, as they say In the West, he
'stumbled to IT," He thought had influence.
O. Who did he think YOU had influence WITH
A, / don't know. ls5 [sEs Z5I-II-I y = 4EE
O. How did YOU know that he thought YOU
had influenced A. presume he did In making
that arrangement with me.
o. Isit an presumptiou on your partf A,
On his part. y ~
O. On your psrti You simply presumed
that he thought you had tnfuencei A. pre-
sumo be did:
Q. Do you know that ne didt
Mr.. Bass. The witness said he had seen him
with certain parties.