New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-07-27

O. At the tine You received the information you spea'
~ from your wife you were me editor OF The Indspend
eat and Of The Brooklyn Union. believer A. Twas
O. DID your wife continue attend Plymouth Church
after that Information A. Yes SIR that was IN the
Summer tme she went into the country and was absent
tang t,ue she has always continued to attend once or
twice year; she is member Of Plymouth Church.
@ Did she attend regularly after returning from the
conutryi A. No Sir: she attended occasionally for
communion service, and would steal in quietly at the
corner OF the building n 10 be unobserved
BUSINESS TROUBLES WITH MR.. BOWEN.
.- n Previous 10 announcing your discovery pre-
tended discovery 20 Mr.. Beecher you had fallen INTO
troubles with Henry c. Bowen, had YOU mott a. Yes
S.r.
O. How long beforei A. Two DAYS.
O. You had ceased to be tho editor OF me iN"ePe""
when YOU made this announcement A. No SIR l
ceased TO be editor Of The Indeoade on the lSt Gay Vi
January. .-., o,a y,
O. was not your valedictory published on the ga OF
December A. Yes, Sir, but my engagement ehued Oh
the 3lst IA, A.,
n had Won not entered into a contract with MI
Raven o be the editor The Union and contriOuort 10
III yn5esndeni before you made any announcement to
Mr. Beecher Of this pretended discovery and had not
Mr. Bowen discovered immOralities on your part ana
Old he not threaten to break the engagement with your
A. No. he did not
O. Did he not make such allegations against you and
aid not you and he appoint day OF meeting at his
house when. in the presence OF mutual frieno' the
allegations against you should be stated and you should
make an explanation, and did not you meet in the pres
ence of mutual friend for that purposef A. No. or ;
MI johnson wished me- about Christmas time 10 see
MI Bowen: be said there some story atoat con-
corning me think Christmas was Sunday, and went
10 see him on Monday; had few words concerning
the matter; he did not tell what the story was;
sad II there Is any story aAoat bring the author of 1t
here and let us see what 1t s." then went on in
conversation concerning Mr.. Beecher
O. Did not YOU and Mr.. Bowen meet on that day. ana
did not NJ Bowen begin repeat the charges against
YOU and aid not you while listening to those charges
break out against the Rev. Henry Ward Beccherf A.
did not never heard OF those charges until after that
interview when MIR. Bowen went from it TO bear the
letter 10 Mr. Betcher; never knew that Mt Beecher or
Mrs Beccher had any thing TO do with MI Bowen >
Co Td not Won make an allegation against Mr..
Beechefl A. No Sir; after Mr. johnson went out he
Q. ID rot You make an allesatonl A. did, toward
O. You made very distinct allegation to Mr.. Bowen,
did you not against MIR Beecher Of the ofensc that he
had committed against youi n Yes. -. A.. ,...
@ 1t that OCCASION was not that the Ietter
was asr.e upon between you and MI Bowen deulah,-
ing that MI Beecher should quit Plymouth pulpitf A.
O. Was II on that occasion that that letter agreed
upon between You and Mr. Bowenf A. yes, II was: >.
@ And was That agreement the result OF his state.
rnent OF lie oenses against lr Beecher which he aud
you knew OH A. On the part o. Mr.. Bowen. yes.
q. On your partl A. made one statement ana ne
O. vii You state what or,nse stated against Mr.
son having introduced subject Mr. Bowen said TO
Nj. Ilton. you do not say as much OF Pymouth
there; why do you not goi'
THE FIRST ALLEGATION TO MR. BOWEN.
O. askea you what Offense you stated against Mr..
Beechcr to Mr. Bowenl a. L must answer your ques-
ton IN my own way came tell you the truth, and
not fragments of the truth MT Bowen wanted me TO
speak more in the paper OF Plymouth Church. Nj.
johnson said, Perhaps Mr.. TOn has reason for not
going to Plymouth Church" Aud thcreupon Mr. Bowen
was know the reason. l. in solitary phrase
said that there personal, domestic reason why
could rot co there consistently with my selfrespec
that Mr. Beecher had been uphandsome IN hls ap-
proaches 10 my wife. That is the sum and substance OF
an have ever said this subject TO the very few
people to whom have spoken of ii.
IScr WHICH demsndSd SIR Beecier 10 leave the pulpit
A. Yes. sir that was the precise occasion =
have recollection OF dates The only identification
@ When were you dismissed from The UHion3 A. The
last night Of The year, think.
@ The s1st. was 1t Z A. Yes, sir.
O. When dd you first learn that Mr or Mrs. Beecher
had nany way communicated facts to Mr. Bowen which
learned that from Mr.. Beecher himself on the day after
6 pRSy "a' wa H mr. Moo2 p1 Mr.
Beecher came in it was au unexpected meetings he
burst out in an expression OF great sorrow to NE, and
said he hoped the communication which he had sent TO
me by Mr. Mouton satisfactory to He then and
there told Mr. Mouton he had done wrong not SO much
as some others had Ueerring to his wife who had made
statements Mr. Bowen that ought to be unmade) and
ne there volunteered 10 write letter TO Mr. Bowen coD
corning the facts which he bad mlsstated.
a Do :
knew tSat Mr. Beecher or Mrs Beecher had given Mr.
Bowen any information. or had had any conversation
tsat MIR Beeeher or Mrs Beecber had given Mr.. Bowen
any snch nformatlon Mrs. Thon had minated TO NE
o. When did Mrs. TltOn intimate that to youi A. IN
December she tOl Of visits which Mrs Beccher lad
made TO her. andof testimony which they wanted to
@ What time in Deeemberi A. do not know.
@ was II before or after me puDcatOn OF your yaie
difory In The independently A. do not remember
Mrs Iilton spoke me number of times OF the enmy
which Mrs Beecher bad for some stIaI &c reason con
was conspiracy between Mrs. Morse ana Mrs Beecher
before December; the truth is that Mrs Ihtons con
naturally wanted TO protect the daughter and she made
a kind OF alliance with Mr. Breeher, ana Mrs. Beecher
took part il II there was desire on the part u pro-
90 You say that Mrs. Tilton referred some time in
December the fact that Mrs Beecher had lnterleIeu
in YOUR matters A. Not that she had inerered in my
matters. but that Mrs. Morse and Mrs Beecher were
coleagung together with reference 10 me- " T.. -
O. Are you able 10 fix that date A Mo- IL was
many vs. e5v OF IL before the 22d Of December think
volt A Yes, think early in the Summer, bat do not
know. A.. ,r,.-- .......oa
from Won with her family A. Not that remember :;
Mrs. Tlton went few weeks to make visit at her
Do Won remember the occasion OF sending for yonr
wife TO come TO The Union office while che was sep
srated from you A. Yes, she was at her mothers.
% DO Won remember telling her that yOu were about
10 be dismissed Ihe Unaon and that she must re-
fnrn 10 YOU, add live with You TO prevent III Dd yGu
tell ner anything OF thatf A. Not shadow 1t would
have made no difference one way or the Other
a nd YOU on that day send letter by servant, 10y
,,ame of Fen directing the person In whose house
she was to return your children TO your mousse IN hf
senoei | do not recoleet II; Mrs. MORSE hau me
do not remember the time. -, ,.. o,,,o .
And he children camel A. Yes, or were brought
think there was only one. . -, ., ~ ., 90. Tho, &,
/ do not remember; think | went personally lor
Elizabeth, and told her she was nyiis MS na nv