The New York herald., 1874-12-05

orders without Judgment, Diindly unreseryedy.
By the decrees II l. the duty OF every iayman,
whenever II is intimsied TO him that this or that
question has been decided by the Pope. to obey.
When the Pope orders man to vote In specined
manner ne Is obliged, even In his capacity men,
Der OF Parliament, 10 obey. That was never SAID
before. 1t Is quite new situation since 1870. Mr.
Gladstone brings this truth ont In his pamphlet
He says that the civil elections In every Cathohc
country are now thing quite uncertain because
they depend entirely upon the viii OF foreign
potentate. This Is the side OF the question when
ought TO be studied IN the United States, too"
DoLLIsGER AND voN ARSIA.
We then spoke OF the Dismarck-Arnlm anair.
and especially about Count Arnim himself, with
whom DR.. Dollnger mas been on the most intimate
terms for many years past. An active and corolal
correspondence has been carried on between the
TWO up TO short time ago. Some OF the letters OF
this correspondence have found their way into
the public journals-rhe last one was printed ouly
a day or two ago in the Vienna Presse but without
the knowledge OF Dr. DJlnger.
Professor D0llinger spoke ofCount Arnim in terms
OF great friendship and appreciation. He could
not solve the mystery OF the estrangement between
the Premier and his Minister. whenever Count
Arnim wrote to me,n said DR.. Donger "he al
ways expressed convictions agreeing with Bis
marck's policy. I suppose, however. there may
have arisen some difference OF views respecting
the last measures which nave been taken,
THE IMPRISONMENT OF THE BISHOPS,
but do not know; he never made any expiana-
tions to me. speak only my own conjecture"
In referring TO Count Arnim's religious character,
Professor Won DUliinger said: :-"He (Arnlm) is as
much opposed to uitramon anism as Prince Bis
marck himself. The difference OF opin on can
only be with regard to expediency.r Some foreign
organs have charged Count Arnim with having
cast himself into the arms OF the ultramon tanes.
Dr. Won D6nger repudiates this very decidedly.
"No one,n he says, s'can be more opposed to ira
montanism than 10 Count Arnim. He has seen
too much, he knows too much the dangers OF
ultramontanism to the welfare OF the Empire.
Some think that the government takes false
step IN imprisonng the bishops and making them
a sort or martyrs, creating Immediately pubic
interest In their behalf. Perhaps he is OF the
same view. l do not know We have had no
communication on the subject. But remember
distinctly that he tod me, considerable time be-
fore the measure OF expelling the Jesuits was
taken-at the time when he came back from
Rome-I am convinced that it Is impossible tor
Germany TO 60 on with the Jesuits. 1t must get
rid OF them In some way or other.' Long be-
fore Prince Bismarck TOOK MS measures he told
me that The Jesuits are the mortal enemies OF
imperial Germany, and l do not see how We can
get on with them.' No one who has read the let
ters published in the Presse some months ago,
especially the one written from Rome, wherein he
laid bare the intrignes and the whole mystery, as
IL were, OF that Council and its garing injustice
and violence. can imagine that Count Arnim is in
any way favorable to ultramOntane views. Quite
impossible"
ARNIM's ARREST
DR.. DUllinger himself Is as much in the dark as
the rest OF the world, suppose, about the real
cause OF Arnlm's arrest. AS to the origin OF the
dificulty between Bismarck ana Arnim, he seems
Bismarck" he said, "uses very strong language.
There were disputes between HIM and Count
Aynim with regard to the latter's actions In Paris
and his relations with N. Theirs and the other
members or the government. The Chancellor used
very strong language in rejecting what Arnim
proposed and in answering objections which
Arnim made against certain measures ordered by
Bismarck to be taken. have also heard
1t said but OF course II is mere saying. that dur
ing the illness OF Prince Bismarck Count Arnm
had been mentioned IN high circles at Berlin as
possibly the luture successor Of the Chancellor,
and that Bismarck had hearo OF that and had
least I have heard this said by Berlin people.
Count Arnlm, however, has never mentioned The
subject at all in his letters to me-"
Dr.. D1Ilinger would, imagine, have no objection
to making public some or Count Arnlm's letters to
him, ii only he could gain the writer's permission.
But this is not possible long the Berlin police
keep watch over The arrested diplomats corre-
apondence.