The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-03-23
The German ChancellOr'S Ciat with
a Hungarian.
R0-HUNGARY A PEACE NECESSITY.
Frivolous and Harm
less---The Papacy Dangerous.
W III O - II O r Il :,

OF his paper very Interesting account OF an audi
ence granted him very recently BY Prince Bis
marck. Though the conversation Of the Prusslan
Premier was mostly directed to subjects In which
his Magyar visitor was mostly Interested the re-
lartons of Germany to the Austro- Hungarian mon
archy--he nevertheless touched other i'm
portant questions especially the Oriental, Roman
and Elsaas LOthringian
N. Jokai was received at the Princes mansion
at Wilhemstrasse at nine o'clock In the evening.
He remarks that ne was agreeably surprised at
finding that he could enter the house by ringing
the door bell for admission, just as at the resi-
dences Of ordinary mortals. He evidently thinks
the big porters enveloped in furs and holding the
stan OF once who guard the entrances to the
houses Of viennese government dignitaries are
dispensabie Injuries. Alter being led through the
ante-ro0m, he found himself in the reception and
work room OF Prince Bismarck. He describes the
furniture therein as being severely simple. "ln
the corner there stood an iron couch; before the
window there was a large iron safe; in the middle
OF the room great writing table, at which the
Man OF IRON sat.
'The Prince" says NJ. Jokai 'was so very con-
sderate that he did not permit me to finish the de-
livery Of q well thought out address which had
prepared in my mind, and began at once by saying
how astonishlngly young looked; he had thought
/ was much older, for when he was first lieuten-
ant in the army he had read review OF one OF my
works in the Au0sourger AU9eaet,se ZettMag, which
at that time was still clever paper. told him
my age. Well.' he said, am years ahead Of
you.' Then he asked me to take a seat at the OPP
posite side of the writing table, and, fetching box
Of cigars out Of the iron safe, offered one to me.
thanked him, for do not smoke. The Prince said
he did not smoke cigars-he loved better his
meerschaum pipe.
CONSOLATION AND HOPE
"While we were speaking the side door was
opened, and the Princess, with her daughter en-
tered from an adjacent apartment. The Man OF
Iron has his magnet too. The Princess is still OF
imposing beauty, OF noble cast OF countenance
and form, and the Comtesse is brilliant ideal
beauty. They were just going to court soiree,
and came to take leave Of the head OF the family.
Bismarck dismissed them with patriarchal kiss
and babe the Princess give his salutations
to Their Majesties the Emperor and Empress.
eve resumed our places at the writing table OPP
poslte each other. The Prince spoke; listened.
AUsTRo-HUNGARY A NECESSITY FOR EUROPE
"'IJ Is necessary that q consolidated State like
the AustrO- Hungarian monarchy should exist in
the centre OF Europe. perceived that when has
tened to conclude peace in the year 1866. II is the
calling Of the Germans on the one part, and Of the
Magyars on the other, to rule on this and yon
side Of the Leitha. The other natlonalities give
soldiers to the monarchy; but we have to look es-
pecially to the Germans and to the Magyars for adj
minisrative talent, for craftsmanship intelligence
and wealth. But all are held together by the bond
Of q common history. The establishment Of small
| national states in the East of Europe is i'm
| possible; only historical States are possible.
Therefore the dualistic form OF government at
present existing between Austria and Hungary
must be maintained. The history Of your nation is
one with that OF Austria; it is one through your
wars; earlier, indeed, you fought one against the
other; now you are bound together Tor mutual
prOtection.' Here / remarked says M. Jokai,
shat every rational Hungarian politician wished
this bond Of alliance and mutual protection to be
maintained.
| @PRTNCE BISMARCK c0NTINuED:-
| "That mission, which you In Austro- Hungary
| have to accomplish, cannot be fulfilled by any
neighbOring State. Do you think that Germany
needs more provinces that are undermined by the
Papal authority We have, as you know, still
many good friends who suspect US Of wishing to
! annex the Austrian crown lands God forbid!
! We have enough to DO with Alsace Lorraine,
| enough with the Danish boundary difficulty, and
| II geographical considerations mad not compelled
us we should not have added to Germany a single
foot's breadth OF land whereon Frenchmen dwelt.
The French are a Wild irrec0ncilable foe for the
French wild people. Take away from them
their cooks, their tailors and their friseurs aud
you leave the copper-coiored Indian. II we were
only able to release ourselves Of that adaptable
element which we have acquired, TO say nothing Of
lusting after the pigrimage-loving tribes OF Aus
tria! And what should we do with Vienna
border cityf Vienna and BUDAPEST have the
mission to become in the East rich centres of CIV
ization and commerce. And tho German states
man who could entertain for q moment the idea OF
annexing anything from Austria would deserve
there the Prince made a movement with his hand
as much as to say, observe TO be hanged'0. II
the German provinces OF Austria wished with all
their might to come to u.s. l, for my part, would be
inclined to oppose them. Rest assured that for
long time to come nobody will modest the Austrian
monarchy-at least as far as human wisd ON Is
able to look into the future. The efforts OF Ger
man diplomacy have been successful in bringing
ABOUT good understanding between Russia
and the Austro-Hungaran monarchy. This
good understanding Is now perfect In case
these two good friends OF ours had come to quar-
rel IL would have been difficult for us to have
chosen with which to side. Now we are bound
together, not as once, through the Holy Alliance,
but the mutual guarantees to make peace the
free development and the welfare OF the nations
lasting. Your Emperor has become very popular
and is liked as Regent in Hungary. ("He is In
deed" remarks Jokai.)
RUSSIA, GERMANY AND AUSTRIA.
NV mower wouid disturb the peace or Austro-
Hungary would find himself opposed by Germany.
But there s no one who has an interest in attack
ing you. Why should Russia do so ? Her territory,
stretching from Japan to the Baltic, Is SO large
that Galicia In comparison Herewith would be an
insignificant gain. She carries on wars OF con-
quest in Asia only to give employment to dissatis-
fed elements. She has enough to do In Russian
izng the 100000 Germans in the Baltic provinces,
and even these are not promotive OF her pros
perity. My fellow countrymen, the Germans. are
moral, Industrious, honest and economical peo-
pie; but when they once 0ecome Russians they
adopt the vices of the latter IN twofoId measure.
and lose their own good qualities in the process.
was frequently on the chase In Russia, and once
heard the proverb the Prince spoke Russian and
then explained in Germany to this enect;-"when