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quorum Court...February Term.


The Chairman, Esq. Glenn, and the
ether members of the Quorum were
present, and much business was trans~
acted.
John II. Toombs appointed guardian
OF minor children Of Salita TOOmbs
Edwin Harris appointed guardian OF
Bette, Florence, Willie and Charley
Harris. ]. w. Trousdale appointed
guardian of minor heirs of James Trous-
dale, decd. VIM. Shaddon appointed
Administrator of Emeline Roane, decd,
L. T. Journey appointed guardian OF
Martha johnson, decd. l.. II. BraZier
gave bond as trustee of w. L. Speed.
John NJ, Hickman appointed admin
istIatOr of IL. Y. Emerson, decd. L. j.
Dorsett appointed administrator of Jane
II. Y. Greenfield, decd. Z. w. James
resigned as administrator of w. L. Da-
Wis, decd, and ]. S. Renfro appointed
instead. Last will and testament of
Jane II. y. Greenfield admitted to pro-
bate. John G. Horsley, public admins
istrator of James w. Brooks, decd. L.
B. Farley and J, T. Wright gave bond
as guardians of John Wright. An in
ventOry of the estate of CO Jones, decd,
by the administrator, approved. Jay
Nestal and Edwarl Mccoy, commits
sioners TO set apart years allowance
| for the widow of James DodSon, report
ed that they had set apart 81. 90 for that
purpose, being the remainder of the es-
tate after paying the burial expenses.
j Sanders and J c Parks, administTa-
tors of John w Parks, decd, presented
an inventory of the estate, and on pre-
sentation OF the report otthe commission
ers, setting apart years allowance to
the children and widow of the deceased
the administrators objected, on the
ground they gave more than the law al
lowed. David Wells gave bond as guar
y IN
pointed administrator of NJ Pinckney
Murphy, decd. Thos L JamisOn gave
bond as trustee of w w Miller. w o
Gordon appointed administrator of NJ
p Erwin, decd.
SECOND DAY.
In the case of r C Reed, ct al, VS. A.
Cheatham ct al, it was ordered that the
Clerk postpone the sale of the land mem
| toned in the premises. 1t was ordered
/ w the Court that the Clerk make deeds
/ to the purchasers of the lands, in the
case of \ II Martin ct al VS. L L Martin
/ ct Al. Settlement of Scion Z Wright,
4 guardian of John Wright, confirmed.
! settlement OF , I Chappell, admir- OF
! { Sedoery- decd, confirmed. Settles
ment OF w ID oakley and A Harris,
. am'rS of Rich nd Harris, decd. confirm
/ ed. Settlement OF II Harris. guardian
/ OF the Ramsey heirs, confirmed. Settle
ment of J G Williamson. Guardian of
! SalIie II Bond, approved. Settlement
! nf Peter b Ladd, admir- of Z \ Iitton
deed, confirmed. L a Burke, admir- OF
| Nc Gillespie, decd, confirmed, Settle
ment of q w Trousdale, guardian of
Mary j. Trousdale, ct al, confirmed,
! " Ii BIanton gave bond as guardian OF
minor heirs OF J w Parks, decd. w 5
7 Williams presented an inventory of the
estate Of A q Williams, decd, which
was confirmed. Inventory of hobt.
Wright, decd, by Henry Johnson, ads
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Magistrates blanks for sale, at this
Office Also, delivery bonds and garn-
ishments. If.
Visiting cards, in beautiful cases, for
sale at this office. IT,
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Removal,

Owing to Messrs, Lamb & Boyd having
other use for their shop, now occupied by
US, we have temporarily removed on High
Street, near the Catholic Church, and will
notify the public when we get permanent.
ly located. LEONHARD & CABLER.
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We are offering at greatly reduced prices our
stock Of Boots, Shoes and Hats, that we bought
ofsheegog Son, to make room for our Spring
stock. Come and buy goods at low prices.
Feb. 9Th, 1874. DoBBINs & BRowS.
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We are authorized To- announce TiiOS. ".
GUEST, as "a candidate for Register OF kRurY
county, at the ensuing election.
We are authorized 10 announce ROBERT
CROSS, as "a candidate for Register Of Maury
county, at the ensuing election.
We are authorized 10 announce JOHN
CARR, as a candidate for Register, al the
next election.
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To Our Friends and Cnstomers.

We keep our store constantly supplied
with all sorts of Drugs, Perfumery, Fine
Wines. Glass, Oils. Paints, &c. 4 new and
beautiful line OF fishing tackle will be
in store very soon.
Jan. 30th. WILLIAMS 4 fowler.
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Are now offering large and splendid lot Of
Clothing at very low prices, to make room for
a Spring Stock. Call on them If you need a
coat, pants or vest; something to please you,
at low price.
Jan. 23d, 2s74,
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Just received New Prints, Domestics, Tick
ings, Cotton Plaids, 1914 Brown and Bleached
Sheetings, Shoes, Hats and Notions very
cheap. feb. 9Th It'll WI. PHILIPS.
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Great Sacrifice.

600 yards Black Silks, SIPS and l.5O, worth
$3.50 and S3.OOa yard; Poplins and Delains at
l2]2cts, former prices IS and 20 cts. yard.
Cash buyer, call and examine.
Feb. 9Th, III. WI Philips.
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We now have for the Spring Of 1874, the
largest and most choice selection of Flower
Seeds ever brought to this market.
Jan. 30th. WILLIAMS h TowLER.
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For Sale,

A good saddle horse offered for sale IMPLY
because his services are no longer needed
in town. Terms liberal. Apply at this Of
fee, ian15-tf
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Al Prime Cost

A largo and attractive lot of Furs, Mink and
Sable, Black, Black and White, Pure White,
for ladies and children, at
Jan. sd, 1874. W. L. BRovs a Co.
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Call on W. {. Brown & Co.,
II you wish to buy a good and pretty set Of
Furs at low price.
Jan Odd 1874
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A full supply of Buist's and Landreth' s
warranted Garden Seeds for 1874 just re-
ceived by WILLIAMS & fowler.
Jan. 30th.
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Must be Closed Out,
Fresh Goods.

Wishing to quit Clothing, 1 am Offering
Coats, Pants and Vests for less than cost.
Feb. 9th, Alt. w. PHMIPs.
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Shoes Shoes -

Ladies' Leather Shoes only 81 Mems Bro
gans only SIPS pair. Better ones in proper
tion at CHEAP JoHN's.
Feb. 9th, IA
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For Constable.

We are authorized 20 announce j. j.
WORKMAN, Ultcd Fin MS "a candidate for
reelection 10 the Office of Constable OF the
18th district of Maury county, at the ensu-
ing August election.
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All kinds of Musical Instruments tuned
and repaired at short notice, by an expert
enced workman. Leave orders at
DIR, T. b. RAINS Drugstore,
Dec g. 9In
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Tothe Editors of The Herald and Mail.

There is rumor on the streets that
the weights of the clock, upon the Male
School, (which are very heavy, are like
ly to fall, at any time, by the breaking OF
the rope, and probably thereby, kill or
injure some OF the children attending
school there. The corporate authorities
some time since appointed a committee
to examine and report upon the repairs,
but as the report was never published, l
do not know whether they consider the
rep airs safe or not; but from the fact that
they refused to pay for it, naturally leads
one to believe the painful rumOrs, referred
to. Who will investigate, and relieve the
public anxiety? PARENT.
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{ r Sale.

Blankets, Shawls and Flannels sold at Man
Ufacturing prices at CHEAP JoHN's.
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200 thrifty young Magnolias, jumpers and
other evergreens. Apply to
Feb. 6th.-2w. MELVILLE WILLIAMS.
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A good sets ofFurs worth 81 90 ats2.25 now
offered at CHEAP JoHS's,
Feb. 9Th, 81.
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Grand Ball in Pulaski.

The HaIoyon Club of Pulaski will
give a grand ball on the 10th inst. Ifany
OF the ladies and gentlemen of Columbus
will go to this ball, we will guarantee
that they will be entertained il a prince
ly and hospitable manner, characteris-
tic Of the people of Giles.
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Business Notices.

Shop Hand Made
Boots and Shoes always kept on hand, and
sold at the lowest cash prices, at
DoBBINs 4 Brown.
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1t will pay you to buy your Boots, Shoes and
Hats Of
Feb. 9Th, n. DoBBISs 4 BEowE,
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Reduction in Prices for Cash.

The best Spun Thread at
Feb. 9th. "a. WI. PHrLPs,
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wILLIAmsPORT ITEMS.

Death has again visited our midst, and
has gathered into his eternal store-house
another full ripened sheaf. Last week
| it was our painful duty to announce the
death of Mrs. Greenfield, of whose ex-
emplary and consistent course through
| life, tits unnecessary to speak, since all
| all who knew her accord to her a Chris
tian perfection, but seldom attained in
| this life. This week we must add to the
| list "gone BEFORE" the name of Mrs.
| Mary King, the venerable mother of
Mr.. Richard King, formerly of Colum>
! bia, now of Memphis; and also the
mother of Mrs. Gardiner Dobbins, a
hood, at whose house she was living ct
the time of her death. She was eighty
four years old, lived Christians life
and died Christians death.
Our schools, both male and female,
began their spring sessions Monday
morning, with encouraging promises,
which gives to our town a more nvly
air than it has assumed for some time
past. We are beginning to feel that
but few places OF its size possesses great
er advantages, with respect to educa-
ton and morality, than Williamsport.
We have three churches-Episcopal
Presbyterian and Methodist-the last
two of which have regular services, so
our citizens can attend divine services
ONcTI SdDDdbu No dlSO udNO a E0ku-
lar Sunday-school, f1ourishing Lodge
of Good Templars, and the farmers haVe
an already large and rapidly growing
grange of the Patrons of Husbandry.
We have also strong Masonic Lodge.
These Institutions, to say nothing Of our
enterprising and wide awake merchants,
grocery men, druggists, etc., is enough,
we think, TO induce persons seeking an
eligible locality, to come and settle in
our midst.
We are glad to note any spirit of inn |
provement in our village; SO tits pleas |
ure to us to refer to the prospective |
store house of our enterprising citizen,
Mr.. r. c.. Dansbee, who has done as |
much in the last few years, to improve
and build up our town as any other man
in it. The store house referred to is
now being built, and will, when COM
pIeted, be one of the most commodious
and handsome houses in our town. Sue
cess to Bob, who deserves credit for his
energy and spirit.
Rev. r. G. Linn is still improving, /
and is considered out OF danger.
Farmers are ready and anxious to
plunge the steel into the bosom of moth
er earth, as soon as the rains cease.
Miss Mary Lou Morrison, of Edgefeld,
who has been spending some time with
her friends at Cottage Hill, the residence
of Maj. B. Gordon, left for her home a
few days ago, much to the regret of all
who knew her, and especially of the
young men, by whom she was much ad-
nirad
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Beached Domestics,
Very low, at w. L. Brown Co. Call and zee
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METEOROLOGICAL.

Range of Thermometer and BARON
ter. at NintOn, Residence of J. H.
James. for the week ending FeF.
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The following is the list of letters remain.
ing il the Postottice unclaimed at this date,
February 9Th 1873; '
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Red and White Onion cts at
Jan, 30th. WILLIAMS K fowler.
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Real Esfafe Transfers.

Cline and Johnson to n. II. Craig, lot
in 9th district, S400 90.
A. J. Turnbo to w. n. Spain, 40 acres
and 10l poles in - district, 1896 90.
w. o. Gordon to T. c, Adams lot in
santa Fe, s..
Geo. c. NIilner ct al, to W. n. Bryant
1907 acres in 4th district, $500 90.
Jno. w. Friersan to J. D. w. Estes 8
acres in l4th district, $276 90.
Martha G. Turner to ]. B. freezing,
1867 acres in 4th district, 1,005.
Henry Harris to E. G. and r. G. Flem-
ing, 40 acres in 5th district, 1000.
County Court Clerk to John NJ.
Graves, so acres and loo 4-5 poles in 9th
district, 81, 25S.
Payton Sowell to G. w. Stockard, Is
acres, rood and 80 poles in 14th dis
trict, So, 271.
L. F. Lamar to Alfred Porter, 1917 in
2lst district, $500 90.
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Held for Postage.-RaineY, King; Nashville
Tenn: Jones, Sam. mt. Pleasant; Loveman.
Nashville Tenn; Joe Franklin q Co, Nash
VILE, Tenn; Edward Hubert, Memphis,
Tenn; Miss Alice M. Wilson, Memphis
Tenn Charles Head, Relic FOnte Ark: Jeff
ColDurp, city Jane b Parke, Nashville, Ten
nesseel ] w Wtliford, Selma, Texas; Lucy
Cooke, Marshall county Miss; Spire q Duff,
Vile, Tenn; Miss NJ f NOtgrass, city; Miss
Mary A Wiley, Dixon p. o. Tenn; Miss Ma
ttlda Kline, Evansville, III; Mrs Sarah TuT-
pin, city.
Held for better DirectiOn.-Johr EArKes, care
Bill Nils; Eddie Pillow, Morgan street. one
without address. "
Tenn. JAMES r. BAIRD, Z, NJ,
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DEMONSTRATORS NOTICE.

Dec. 8, srrl
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a MAN INSTANTLY kILLED.-Ye Yesterday
Edward jenkins, Il carpenter, met an in
Simultaneous and horrible death at the to-
bacco factory of C. Ford, on Twelfth street.
Workmen employed in raising heavy Cir
ders and other timbers from the lower to
the upper floors had succeeded in placing all
Of them in position except one, and about
the time that the ropes had been fastened for
the purpose of raising it, Mr.. jenkins left
the upper floor and proceeded to the second
floor, and Immediately after the trap. door
through which the piece of timber had been
drawn had been again closed. He stopped
Immediately on the trnp-door, and conse'
quently under the timber, which had then
been drawn distance ofabout thrty-two fe ct
above his head. The timber coming in con.
tact with u beam, caused the knot in the
rope to slacken, when it slipped through
the rope and fell end-foremost. striking MIR
jenkins squarely on the top of the head
crushing it in manner beyond description,
and, of course, producing instant death
The piece of timber was an oak girder TWEEN
ty feet long and ten inches Lynch
burg Nelos.
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A New York PAPER ON MASSACHUSETTS,
The Utica On. " Observer ,(Governor Sey.
mour's organ), speaking Of George William
CurtiS's Grafton on Sumner, says:
This is the Massachusetts, which drowned
the witches, slit the ears Of the Quakers, and
banished the Baptiss; the Massachusetts,
which furnished no great soldier to the
Revolution, and no great statesman to the
first councils Of the Republic; the Massa-
chusetts that clamored for twenty years for
the slave trade under the Constitution that
her thrifty people might line their purses
before they paraded their philanthropby
the Massachusetts that has proved herself
always toad to England and snake 10 the
South, originating credit-moblliers, and fur
nishing thieves for senator's seats in the re-
constructed States. The miracle of America
is this that the wings Of Liberty were large
enough to cover a people whose idea of hell
TO quote Channiug) was place where man
could have his own way.
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The postage bill Is like apig with one foot
in the gate. Al this present writing lis pas
sage is doubtful. We suspected that the Sc
rate did not act in good faith IN raising the
postage on newspapers; but NJ. SHERMAN S
srecch upon it had L very earnest appear
ance. We thought that body intended to
kill it by their amendments. This effect may
follow; but We doubt now whether the in
teution was 10 produce il. We Lave shown
that even with the Senate'S amendments II
will very much reduce the postage on pa
pcrS: but tina; postage triU b5 collected,
while Mt present vast deal Of it is never
collected III all. To this point Mr. SHERMAN
called C. pccia attention. The blllaS it stands
i fair &c newspapers in one point, and that
is a. to postage by ,cejght The paper pays
postage according TO Its size-a way OF rating
postage that 10 honest NAN can object TO.
We would rather the Senate had not
amended the bill. 1t WAS better rs 1t was.
Nevertheless. should it pass The subscribers
will get their papers for less than now.
They will be pleased, and, as we have said,
Congressman are more Interested in pleasing
the people than in pleasing the editors.
The New York Tribune, speaking OF tho
increase OF postage by the Senate, says that
publishers should remember that they have
drought it on themselves by speaking dis
respectfully of the men who run the Gov
eminent" We trust this sort of resent
meut will only help to pass the bill. 1t doe
rot affect newspapers until next january
Ii NAV be amended by that time it it Is un
Just to the press.
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Knoxville Speaks.

We have said that the one-horse express
on MAHoNE's line had no existence beyond
the terminus Of the Atlantic, Mississippi
and Ohio. Now comes the Press and Her.
Gld Of that toWn-they have not made cities
ly ia,r YET in TenncsSee-and shows that
what we said was true. We refer to what
it says. An Atlantic, Mississippi and Ohio
man, who has very special interest in that
road as one of its agents, under the sigma
ture Of "Justice," tries to stem the tide Of
popular opprobrium by the stale cry of the
Richmond organ in declaring that Adams &,
Co. are to blame for all. But this fails. The
Press and Herald tells how the people of
Knoxville are incommoded and injured by
the arbitrary and conceited administration of
the Atlantic, Mississippi and Ohio. We re-
fer the reader to what that paper says, pub
ished elsewhere in our columns.
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A publication having appeared charging
Governor kEMfER with Il correspondence
with Colonel MosBY pledging the Governors
support to General GRANT for third term,
the Governor will probably feel called upon
to make public W hat has taken place between
him and the Colonel on the subject. At pres.
cnt the Governor is absent from the city and
will not return, We are informed, until Sat-
urday next.
The publication is not made by Colonel
MosBY. How far he has authorized it we
cannot say. He, too, may feel that he is re-
quircd to make Il statement, and We may
have little-we hope a very little-eXcite'
ment about the matter.
We have no idea that Governor kEMPER
has prejudiced his position by his expires.
slons or pledges. But the public will soon
| know all about it.
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Money.

The Bank of England has put the rate OF
interest down to t,co and half per cent
per annum-thlee and a half below the rate
which the old fogics and their organ wished
TO Gx it at by law. Sometimes the Bank Of
England goes up to t,oeloe per cent. Money
is like "wet groceries" worth its msrketa'
hle value, and that it will have, no matter
what laws the fossils may pass. The BanE
o! France, too, has reduced the rate to four
per cent.
With us money is not easy, nor is it YET
very tight. The fatal first of July is near
and that is always a period Of scarcity in
money. Everybody, especially the banks, is
getting ready to pay. immediately after that
day there is comparative ease every body
having paid, all have some money.
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MN. HARRIS AND 1uE Postal bIsL.-- a let
FOR from Hon. John T. Harris to The editor

Am. HARRIS AND 1HE POSTAL 6li.L.-- a iet-
tor from Hon. John T. Harris to tue eaitoE
of the Charlottesville JeGersonidn says:
did vote against bill containing that
,rovis;on. RI. e.. free circulation Of papers IN
tho comfy where published, and Tree eX.
change between cditors.l but u coh'aiheo
other matter very Objectionable.
My bill for the purpose OF passing Tree
county papers had hccnfeportea oy Tue conl !,
m,t,ee without material alteration, and had
been passed by the House, and Is no" IN tne
Senate so it was not necessary TO pass 1t u
second. time. | was the author Of the bill.
The bill passed requires the prepayment!
Of all papers on. of the county.
Ii requires the editor, publisher, or agent
10 take degrading oath that he will not
mail matter not prepaid. and on his refusing
to take the oath he is tiacd $1,000.
Again, all persons who drop newspaper
in the po>t.oflice without prepayment oil
postage shall be fined $1,000, and sent to the
pcuitentiary for three years. l will never
vote for such punishment for SO trivial III
| offence.
It goes back to the dark ages where men
| were hanged and their heads cut OIL ano
placed in public place for the offence Oh
petit larceny.
| | will rive no vote which increases tho
power of the Federal courts to barasS. ar
rest, and punish our people. Let TINS IA"
psss and thousands will be arrested by
pimpS aud spies prowliug around the coun-
try 10 make living 10y punishment o'
! others.
The country newspaper men in Congress:
voted against this hiIl.
| The above will do tor men who are unac'
quainted with the laws Of the United States
| The kd,c as ii stands requires the "pubiShe'
| or agent to take degrading oath that he actl
not MAJ! matter not prcpaidS' So that pie:
fails.
1t is not true that call persons who drol
"a newspaper into the post office without
prepayment of postage will he tlneC
ST 900" THIS question was raised IN the
Senate, and shown TO be Got worth noticing
The law Furnishes 10 one who does mol
:. hnoringly ami ~JWiy" violate it.
The paragraph about tho dark age is stuff
As TO increasing the powers of the Fed
eral courts" dc. We have before US tht
| p0st-Cflice laws new in force. They are full
| of penalties of fines and imprisonmcntS
The new bill does not &dd an iota TO the
power Of the Federal courts. Even before
| the war all offences Of all sorts against The
postal laws were punished in the Federal
| courts, as no one knows better than Mr.
HARRIS.
The real reason for Nr. HARRlS's vote is
| given in bis last paragraph: ''The country
newspaper men voted against this bill y
Congressman who expect 10 be bol>tered up
| and kept in place by country newspapers
voted against the Till with the expectation
that those newspapers would never tell
their constituents that they had voted against
bill TO reduce by more than ouc-half the
rates of postage. We shall see if the peo-
pie arc such asses aSthese gentlemen pre-
>ume them to be.