The Portland daily press. [volume] (Portland, Me.) 1862-1921, 1874-08-15

| preach down this trouble. Or course IN M
dismal mood felt as though the earth ha
come to an end. Now in Interpreting thes
special letters everybody is irresistably tempte'
to suppose that everything L said was said mar
rowly, in regard to their text, instead of con
sldering the foregoing state of my mind, where
as my utterances were largely to be interpreted
by the past as well as by the present or tue III
ture. l cannot interpret them precisely as
can note of hand or check. A man that il
poetical, man that is often times extravaganza
man that is subject to moods that makes MT
what am, cannot narrowly measure his words
and yet from this writing of over four years
In every conceivable condition of this large cor
respondence, proceeding from mind speaking
IN hyperbolical moods and in all manner o.
states about everybody and everything, out OF
thag they eaEs did Sn n reer
TO him. his whole style of acting.
A Matter of Diplomacy.
Q.-Theodore SAID he was born for war, and
Moulton was probably born for diplomacy?
| Ayes.
By Mr.. Cleaveand-Was the plan and
nethoe by which, from time to time, these
things were managed by yonr suggestion or oy
Mr. Moulton's?
| Al made suggestions from time to time,
| generally without any effect, and the essentla!
course appears, so far as it has not been forced
upon us from outside influence, has been OF his
| (MOultOn's) procuring
Gle managed his whole matter with Mr..
| Tilton?
Yes He represented himself as having all
| the reirs in hands; as having in his hands such
| power that, if worse come to worse, he could
| compel settlement; he intmated to me, time
and again, that he had such materials in his
hands respecting Theodore, that, as he sad
once, III Theodore does not do as say, III
grind him to powder"
BY Mr.. Winslow. iThe earning the future"
understand was to procure the silence and
burial of the SCandal2
A.-NO, it wasn't either; it referred to the
plans by which Tilton was to get something to
do, and do it, and get some praise for it, and be
content
Q-The "devises." Did that refer to all. the
plans and arrangements and steps that had
been taken?
Alt referred to this. If had been left to
manage this matter simply myself I should
have said "yes'' or "no;;" that would have been
the whole of it; but instead of that the mater
went into MoutoI's hands, and Moulton is a
man that loves intrigue in such way as Lady
Montague said of somebody, she would not
carve cabbage unless he could steal on it from
behind and do it by device;' and the smallest
things and the planest he liked to do the sharp
est way. He was consulting with parties here
and there and elsewhere, and great deal OF
whispering was taking place, and finally it
would turn out that something was not going
to be done that he had said he would do, and
he did not tell me why, and had to guess
There was this wide circuit of various infuen-
ces through which he was moving all the time.
sCondoning' Mrs. TiltOn's Fault.
Gle had condoned "his wife's fault" what
did you mean by this?
Abandoned has legal meaning and a
general meaning, but the general meaning of
condoned is to pass over, to make peace, to
overlook, aud use the word as literary man
would use it, not as lawyer; if 1 used it in a.
legal phrase the word would have been
Offence not fault"
Q-In using the word fault do you refer to
some particular act of Mr.. Tilton?
Accompanies he made in general in re-
speot to her, you know perfectly well what was
the impression conveyed to me from the begin
ming to the end, and that was that I had stolen
into his home and that / had taken advantage
of the simplicity of his wife to steal her affec-
tions to myself and away from him.
Q-And so you mean to say you had that in
your mind when you used the worl fault?
Al suppose did.
Q.-You say in the same letter that he had
"enjoned upon you most earnestly and
solemnly not TO betray his wife" in what re-
spect?
A.-Not to betray this whole difficulty into
which his household had been cast. Consider
how it is. l appeal to every sensitive man and
cultivated nature in the world if any greater
evil can befall than to have woman-a wife
and mother-made the subject of even investi-
CATION as it respects her moral character for no
greater harm can befall woman than to be
talked about from house to house, with dis
cussions as to the grade of offence, and the
probable nature of the offence, and the cause of
offence, and everything about it. Next to stab
bling woman dead, is talk about her virtue in
public; suppose that in order to interpret the
letters l must refer to vulgar, physical, gross
ind;gnity. Then they were living on a plane
where do not live. You must remember that
l was aware that in addition to the trouble in
volving rny name, Mr. Tilton had also in fits of
jealousy accused his wife of criminal intimacy
with several gentlemen, of whom was not one,
and had asserted in the presence of witnesses
that all her children except the first were the
children of those gentlemen respectively. In
his decent moodsl he was very anxious to have
such accusations unknown to the world. The
mere rumor of them would cast an ineffaceable
blight upon his children. Nothing would have
induced me to make this explanation but that
Mr.. Tilton has deliberately chosen to cast
blight of precisely the same kind on those very
children by his subsequent course, and all that
is left to me is the power to speak of this
abominable accusation with the scorn with
which such terrible falsehood deserves.
Moro Gloomy Moments.
Q-You can refer to some points which have
already been considered for a momeut? II
have strange feelings upon me that I am
spending my last Sunday and preaching my
last seamon?" Do you refer to the same con-
dition Of health and mind that you have de-
scrbed?
Al refer to the fact simply that that was
my state of mind during this great trouble, al
though if you were to collect all the language
1 have nsed at various times it might produce
the impression that had wallowed in sea of
unparalleled distress. 1 have stormy days,
and have suffered more from this than proba-
bly, all other causes in life put together. Yet,
taking the four years together, l have had
more religious peace and more profound in
sight into the wants and s1fferings of men
Since have become acquainted with trouble
and despair have had an experience in the
highest regions of Christian life, that is worth
all the sorrow and suffering that I have had
to 60 through to get to it.
crefs.
us it or is it not true that in the course
of these matters Mr.. Tilton expressed strong
desire that the secrets OF his family should not
beknown?
A.-Always; at least that was his mood, ex-
cept when he fell into strange mania at
times. There we're times in which it was very
evident that he perfectly longed to be obliged
to bring out. or to have somebody bring out, a
scandalous story on his family, in order that
he might have the credit before the world to
be so magpanimous as still to stay at home
and live with his wife.
An Unwritien Statement.
Q-You say, "My mind is cleared; am not
in haste. 1 shall write for the public state
ment that Will pear the llgnt OF judgment day.
have done it," You didn't do it, however,
then. Had you any present purpose of doing
it then?'
Al thought good many times that had
better sit down, before my memory failed me,
and made memorandum OF the course of
the course of events and the reasons of my
conduct, but was so busy could not do it,
and every year it became less possible to do it,
Monlton's Fidelity.
Q-Here comes clause in which you ex-
press profound confidence in Moulton's fidel-
ity; does that correctly represent your feelings?
Alt does, although Mr.. Moulton was not
the man that should select as an ideal man.
thought that in that one particular of fidelity
to friends he was the most remarkable man 1
ever met by the amount of time he was willing
to give, by the amount of anxiety he was Will
ing to encounter, by the doing of work which
/ suppose is more agreeable to him than to me.
That is of seeing different parties ferreting out
stories, and running things back to their
source, which utterly abhor in social relations,
and consequently trying to keep me in good
heart, and presenting to me the best sides of
Tilton's character, which, however, he failed to
do. When brought to Moulton what seemed
to be the bad and treacherous things I learned
of Tilton, he said, Don't believe word of
such things. 1 will make inquiries" and the
next time would see him he would have
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