The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-10-17
THE BOILERS
Another Caucus Of the Indepen-
dents Held Yesterday.
A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF.
Shall There Be a Limit to the Plan for
Municipal Reform?

MuuiCipdi nclUflu!
The politicians who have been so active during
the past few days In trying to perfect an oroautxa
ton which win be able to draw within its lines
every citizen who IL opposed TO Tammsny Hall
were at work yesterday endeavortng to .bring
wings 10 head, /" as some OF them expressed It.
somehow, the results OF their labOrs SO far as the
rank and file OF the democracy are concerned
have not as yet become so unmistakable for their
success as one would be led to believe who would
content himself with simply listening to one side
OF the story, although malcontents have been
1ound IN every Assembly district However,
the leaders OF the Independent movement contend
that where one man openly declares against Tam
many there are twenty who, while keeping their
own counseis now, will quietly vote against the
Wlgwam on election day. This is certainly true Of
the Germans in some OF the districts where they
outnumber the other voters almost ave to one;
Dut, While the indications yesterday showed that
there were many macontents who were not afraid
OF inveighing against the Wigwam chiefs, In no
Assembly district where the democrats have Q
strong hold could there be found any sign OF
serious disanecton. However, the independents
say that the surface OF affairs cannot by any
means be taken as unerrtng indication
OF the extent OF the dissatisfaction OF the masses
degree many OF the old followers OF the Wigwam
have been stirred up IN opposition to the county
ticket is known only TO those workers" whose
business II has been to sound the "o'h0ys,n as well
as those who are not, as general rule, fre-
Quenters Of political clubs or associations.
AGREEING TO DISAGREE.
: 1t would seem that everything Is not going as
smoothly with the various elements which have
been trying to amalgamate into one solid oppoai-
ton to Tammany as some Of the leaders would
wish, although at the Delmonico meeting the
scalp for the mass meeting TO be held on Tuesday
night, when nominations are to be made, APP
peared to be quite satisfactory to all those who
took part IN the caucus, among whom were
delegates from the liberal party. 1t is this cali
which now threatens to become the rock on which
the Independents may 20 to pieces. 1t win be re.
membered That In the cali the invitation to attend
the nomination meeting was extended to ''the
democrats OF the city Of New York and all others
In favor OF the election of the liberal democratic
State ticket" and opposed to Tammany. The in
vitatton Is apparently not broad enough for some
Of the opponents OF Tammany, and this fact
became quite patent when the conference com.
mittees OF the Independent democrats, OF the
Germans and OF the liberals met yesterday in
secret concave at the Palette Club. The meeting
was called for three O'Clock, but It was nearly Jour
before there was q working quorum and the ses-
sion lasted till nalfpast SIX O'Clock. II required
on the part Or
heels In the room on the floor below the han in
which the conference met to perceive, BY the IN
coming and outgoing OF the delegates that the
meeting was not MAJ monious one. The Germans
had been the first to put in an appearance, and
dent democrats had anything like decent repre-
sentation IN the hall. After the meeting was
dastrlal Labor party being present at the time the
Independents call was seized upon as the bone OF
backed up by his German friends, argued that
under the call those citizens who were IN favor OF
municipal reform and opposed to rammany, yet
democratic state ticket could NOT take part in the
mass meeting. They insisted strenuoualy that the
the candidates presented 'all citizens opposed to
Tammany Hail ana In favor VI municipal reform,n
liberals, too, took this view Of the case, while the
independent democrats argued that the opposition
and as such he IN the cali TO Tie state
ticket Was proPss ana should not De nodded IN
very warm and for over two mortal hours
TIE WAR OF WORDS
waxed furious. White 1t was at Its height Denny
and went their ways INTO the street, looking in ex
ceedingy bad humor, and occasionally
nushed and excited, and refreshed themselves
with lager at the bar. IL finally leaked out among
me soas tne can nao rsay az o
Ing room was butt0nhoied, and every effort made
to make him reveal the secrets OF the proceedings.
The caucus adjourned finally without coming to
any conclusion other than deciding to hold an
other meeting on Saturday afternoon at the Ger
naturally carried with it, in The opinion Of the
outsiders the necessity OF each committee's re-
fepresent the result Of the conference; but the
HERALD reporter was disabused OF this notion by
Norris Ellnger who on being asked how the Ger
German Independent organization, as there was
70 be no meeting OF that organization before the
j am their representative, and, to eli intenis
and purposes, IN the setding OF thus matter
tnat the call, In so far as it relates to the demo-
cratic state ticket is not the only cause OF trouble
just now among those VINO desire IRE 10 Oppose Tam.
evening, ut Delmonco's, made chairman OF the
Committee on 0nicers and Resolutions for the
mass meeting. He will therefore have the naming
OF the presiding officer. who has the naming or
the committee Of twenty-five. who are in their
voted on by the mass meeting and he Will, there
tore, be chief cook and bottle washer Of the entire
concern. This oxu,ow,,
business some OF the Independents do not look
iavoraDly upon. When the call was first drawn
up this feature OF IL they had not, they said yes
terday to q HERALD reporter, looked into. 1t Is
quite possible, therefore. that at the conference
made to amend the call, so as to remedy what
few OF the delegates say was great "Dunder."
It was stated at The caucus that one Of the three
gentlemen mentioned as the iavorltes FOR the
Mayoralty, with majority Of the delegates,
and oswald Ottendorfer, had been called upon ana
had "half consented" to run II nominated. This
OtteDdorier he is known to be only too willing TO
get the nomination; but % the republicans nave
SAID s ney % not a% h ana
looks as though there might De, after all, Jour
tickets in the neld. "Otte ndorfer," said one Of
sums for advertising from the Ring, never raised
in the General Committee with him not only. but