National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-06


Q. That was IN the first Conversation. He
would not simply repeat that. Would not he
say what he had done in friendly way, and
did be ssy7 A. He did not.
Q. So that In all the business conversations
that you had with Colonel Moore, he simply
repeated the general statement that he would
be glad to do for you in q friendly way what
he could A. The words might vary some
from that, but that was about the substance.
Q. So that your business conversations with
him were simply q change Of the order of HIS
language. Did any one else go out with you
the Sunday you went out there7 A. do not
know that that was Sunday. The question
has been asked as to the day we went out
there. No other parties went out there ct all.
Q. Did not Ar. DeGolyer 60 out there with
youl A. No, sir; not at all. He was not In
Washington, at that time.
Q. Did he ever go out with you TO Harewoodl
A. No, sir; Mr.. DeGolyer did not. he had
gone back to Chicago.
@. During these interviews between you and
Mr.. Kirkland and the Rev. William Coivin
Brown, you had the utmost confidence In both
of themf A. I had the utmost faith in these
gentlemen that they would not deceive me at
all. / believed them.
By Mr.. Wilson; Q. When did you first see
Mr.. Kirkland after you came to this cityl A.
The first time that came to Washington
@. After you came to Washington'under the
| subpoena OF the committed A. I saw him at the
table at the Arlington, cannot say Just when;
we were all sitting at the table. That was my
| first acquaintance with him.
Q. am not talking about your acquaintance
with him. You came here under the subpoena
| of this committed A. Yes, sir.
Q. Since YOU came here after having been
subp1naed, when did you first see Kirtlandi
A. think It was on Thursday night, week
ago.
Q. Where did you see himi A. At the Eb-
| bitt house. --
@. Was that the first time you knew that he
was in town. A. That was the first that 1
positively knew about It. had an impression
| through an interview with Mr.. Wilcox, as will
appear In my testimony. have traversed over
that ground once. have given testimony on
| that point fully.
Q. After seeing Wilcox you did see him at
| the Ebbitt housed A. Yes, sir; that is the only
| time have seen him for Q year. O.
Q. How did you find out that he was at the
Ebhitt housed A. He sent me note to the
Arlington. -
O. You went pursuant to the motel A. Yes,
sir. -r-s- .. -.
Q. How often did you see him at the Ebbitt
housed A. I only saw him once; had that one
| interview. - ,-.-
TESTIMONY OF ANTHONY HYDE.
/ AuIuOuy ElJuG bWOEu auu
By the Chairman: Q. Are you the business
agent Of Mr.. wv. Coreoranl A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you, at any time, negotiate for the
sale of the HARDWOOD estate with Mr.. W. Col
vim Brownl A. Yes, dc :. I'M s.s-.- ..r..
O. State to the committee when these nego-
tiations began, as nearly as you cam A. In
July or August, 1s72. FsbF
o. Do you remember the first interview you
had with Mr.. Colvln Brown on that SUBJECT
4. remember the interview, but I do not re-
member tho date.
Q. You exhibited TO me letter from him Of
the 18th of July. Was Il before that timel It
was before that letter was written, was 1t
moth A. Yes, before any letters were written.
you have not letter there dated the 18th
Of July. A. [After referring to memoranda
| Yes, sir.
Q. It was before that letter was writteni A.
Yes, sir. ...
Q: Do you remember how many days besore'
A. No, do not.
Q. Did Mr.. Brown write you that any other
parties were interested with him in this trans
action} A. No, sir. r#E boo IN. 1.....s .
| Q. Did you have any communication with
any other parties excepting Mr.. Brown A. No,
| sir. ........-..
Q. When this $4,000 was paid for this
estate, how was It paid to your A. It was
paid to me by check payable to me or bearer,
Mr.. Kirtland's check on Riggs & Co.
| Q/Mr. A. B.. Kirtland's check on Riggs &
Co. for SIC, 0OOl A. Yes, sir; payable to mo or
bearer.
o. Did you give a receipt for that check A.
No, sir; not that know of.
| Q. You gave no receipt A. have no recol-
lection, and do not think did.
| @. Did Mr.. Brown express to you that this
money was deposited 70 the credit of A. B.
| Kirtland1 A. Yes, sir.
Q. He did at that timei Ayes, sir; at the
time. .-7t11l 3 .....
| @. What did Mr.. Brown say he desired to do
with this estatel A. He said he was going to
make private residence of II. - --.
| Q. Did you talk with him upon that subject
A. This was brought out by Directing to SELL
did not like the idea of the identity of the
place being destroyed, and pat that question
to him. He said that he intended 1t for pri-
yate residence. ..... . 80.
Q. Did he afterward tell you that he had
one or two other friends that also wished to be
In III A. Yea, sir; that there were, perhaps,
two parties that he might ike to divide 1t
| with.
Q. Who also wished to have summer estates
| near Washington A. Yes, sir. l then COM
| inundated with Mr.. Corcoran on the subject,
and he said that he would not object to such
an arrangement as that, If the matter was con-
summated.
Q. Did Mr.. Corcoran return that money
the 100000 A. Yis, sir; SO, 900.
Q. To whomi A. To Mr.. Brown, by check
to his order, and by him Endorsed.
Q. Check payable to the order of W. Colv.n
Brownl A. Yes, sir;
| Q. Do sou know what he did with the money!
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. What time did you get
that $40 ,000i A. Do you mean what time did
Mr.. Corcoran get III
Q. What time was tina: $4,000 paid by Mr..
Brownl A. On the Sth Of August, 1872.
Q. What time did you return Il 10 him! A.
| On the 4th of October, Of the same year after
the matter had entirely failed.
G. Il. EVANS RECALLED.
The Witness The last time vas on tie
stand the committee requested me to make out
q statement Of the purchases of asphalt by Mr..
Evans. I made out, some days ago, q. statement
of 1t, and annexed 1t With some vouchers. Ii the
committee wish, will read the letter, which is
the statement desire to make. E -
The letter was read BY the witness, as TO-
| lows, but the amount of vouchers appearing
| therein, It was not deemed necessary that they
should be inserted: a---'- l-'s- E-
r.. wAsHISGroN, D. c., April 2, is7i.
DEAR SIR: I send herewith as requested,
vouchers for asphalt purchased BY Msssrs. Evans
No. shows purchase of 81 tons on October lO,
1871, Of "Dr. a. vaucamp." This was imported
from OuOa nlul.
| No. shows purchase OF John .. Lamson, Of
New York, of about tons, November %. 1871.
| No. shows purchase Of about AZ tons from the
| "New York and Trinidad Bitumen Company"
No. shows the importation of 3s5,2lo pounds
| say about 1871 tons-from port Of Spain. This lot
sNas reshipped 20 Mr.. Evans from Philadelphia,
| and out Of the same he has been using for pave
ments since lots ], 2 and were exhausted.
I also inclose statement OF composition pur-
| chased at different times from sundry parties
amounting to 476.3l6 gallons, which have been
enabled TO ind vouchers for.
Other purchases have been made not included
| IN this statement. --.. ....
| Please have vouchers preserved and returned
Yours respectfully, H. q. EVANS.
Hon. Vim. b. Allison, Chairman, DC.
BY Mr. Wilson: o. Do these appear on the
| books; A. Not all of them.
Q. How many Of theml A. Two.
Q. which, A. One purchase from Mr.. Lam
son, and lot purchased from the Trinidad
Bitumen Company.
Q. That purchased from Mr.. Lamson, is how
muchi A. About three tons.
| Q. What is tho other that appears on your
books A. The other Is AZ tons.
Q. Why does not the large amount appear
on your booksi A. This large amount has never
been settled. There Is nothing on that cash
book unless the bill has been paid. That is still
an unsettled matter.
| Q. Do you mean to say that Mr.. Evans has