The Kenosha telegraph. [volume] (Kenosha, Wis.) 1860-1888, 1874-09-03
MR.. BEECHERS eros 2-EXAMINA-
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with him that had any particular significance.
He came to see me once when the council was in
session, and our document was published. There
was phrase introduced into it that Tilton
thought pointed to him, and Tilton that night
was in a bonfire flame. and walked up and down
the street with Moulton. was in at Freeands
and in comes Carpenter, with his dark and mys-
terous eyes. He sat down on the sofa and in a
kind OF sepulchral whisper told me of some
matters. Says l. THAT Is all nonsence;'' that
il meant -, and = and Carpenter was rejoced
to hear it, and then went out. On another occa-
sion he came to me and, in great glow of ben
evidence, said there was a newspaper to be estab-
lished in New York, and that l was to take the
editorship of it, and half million was to be
rHlsed almost by the tap of a drum was greatly
amused, but said to him, "gravey, well, Car
penter If should ever leave the pulpit l think
it very likely should go into Journalism 1t
would be more natural to me than anything else "
That was the amount OF that conversation. One
other conversation have some recollection of,
in April, and that was when Mr.. Moulton had a
plan on foot to buy the Golden Age OF Tilton,
and send him to Europe, and Carpenter came in
and talked with me about il. l recollect very
distinctly that conversation my eyes were begin
ming to be enlightened. My education was
beginning 10 tell on me little, and said to Mr.
Carpenter, distinctly, Mr. Carpenter, that is
matter which / can have nothing to do with.
don't know but that if Tilton wishes to go to
Europe with his family and live there for some
time that his friends would be willing to raise
that amount ofmoney ; but that is matter you
must talk with somebody else. and not with me -
Q.-Did you say that If Tllton printed his docu-
ments YOU would never ascend that pulpit AGAIN ?
Al never said that, and [ should never talk
about the thing with such weak man as he
Q-Who introduced the subject OF going to
Europe when Carpenter came to see you ? Ale
did.
ON the statement which you have made and
the letters you have published you express great
agitation, sorrow, and suffering, even to anguish
How do you reconcile that with the tone of your
public ministration, and with the declarations of
peace and trust which have fallen from you from
time to time in the lectureroom? Al explain
it precisely in the same way as do the words of
Paul, who said that he died deaths daily that he
was the otfscouring of the eafth-having the care
| of ali the chnrches-and yet, with all this burden
on his mind, he des rbed himself as living in the
mo Il transceDdent religious peace and joy that
stands on record in human literature. "Godly
sorrow woIketh joy The first effect of these
! troubles to me was most angulshful and depress-
| ing, and oftentllnes lay in them even as ship
heaves on the sea IN times of calm when she can
make no progress and yet cannot lie still But
after little came the reaction, ana by the power
| OF the Holy Ghost my mind was lifted above these
things, add said to myself 1T is my business
| as a man and minister to live the doctrines |
have been preaching" have always been telling
people how to manage sorrow, and telling men
how to bear up under their troubles. 1 deter
lined that would not finch, whine, or sit down.
| would stand up, and did not care how much
| the Lord piled on me. [ believed He would not
put Oh me more than c0nld bear, if rose TO it,
and took work whenever it offered, and l went
| through the work and grew strong under it,
and at intervals had experiences of peace and of
resignation and OF divine comfort which | had
never known before in all my life, And, in the
retrospect OF all this trouble, can say truly that
am better capable of interpreting the comfort of
the W ord Of God to the sorrowing heart that ever
should have been if | had not passed through
this dis ciplne 1nave lost children :; 1 have lost
brothers ; have had many fri nds who have died
and some who would not die-and yet under II
this ha We never been more sustained than
have in this.
@ Notwithstanding your great suffering dur
ing the last four years, do you feel that your
health or powers for labor and us efulness are
impaired? Al work because like 10 work
worked because my VIII lie soul was saying to
IN e: Go forward and preach I never meas
ured how long the shadow was Of my life. /
never put question to myself once whether
was higher or over than other Christian min
listers. 10 be ca He'd the first preacher in Amer
lea or the world is only throwing a shadow at
me have but one feeling alb ont this, and that
i. ju ct as long live every article of trength
and Imagination. and feeling, and reason. and
body, md soul, give to my country and to my
kind and that is all the ambition Ihave. I never
had better health than | have TO- day | co not
think the machinery is worn ont yet, and I do
no propose to be idle, and shall do again what
did in the beginning of my life. l never asked
anybody for permission to work. shall net ask
anybody now The channels | am work. ng in
may flow here or there, bat I propose to work
fifteen years yet.