National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-06


diyidual contracts 4. My own individual con
tracts amount to about Sl35,000.
Q. Now, understood you to say, day oeiort
yesterday, when you were on the STAND, tnG'
Governor Shepherd had stock in thisi A: NO,
cir; did not. / said there was Mr.. louhs
interested. We gave Mr.. Young's STOCK ior
his interest.
O, For whose INTEREST," A. For Mr.. Shop
herds interest in the Stowe patent. made
mistake in stating that was in July: thinN
stated that was transferred-Mr. Smith
hands me the original stock, and it shows that
the transfer was made in February, ISL.
Mr., Wilson. You had better explain that mat
ter, lest there should be some Illsapprenenslol
about your testimony.
The witness. think in the letter which
wrote to Mr.. Shepherd did not have the sec
retary's book with me, and / stated that the
transfer, the sale, was made to Baldwin IL
july, 1871. l find that it was in February
1871.
Q. The sale by whoml A. By Mr.. Young. II
was passed over to me.
The Chairman. have the letter; 1t is to be
found on page 1928.
IThe letter was read by the chairman.l
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. You sold that stock &c
Baldwin, then, for Mr.. Youngi A. Yes, sir.
Q. Has Baldwin ever paid for IT. A. Yes, sir
Q. What did he payl A. He paid Mr.. Young
$2,500 for Il.
Q. For how many sharesi A. One hundred
Q. Did Mr.. Baldwin get any dividends on
that stock7 A. He did.
O. When did he make that payment A. He
gave me notes at the time. and held the stock
until the notes were taken up; they were re-
newed once or twice.
q, when were they taken upi A. I think
lust prior to that transfer to him on the books.
The transfer seems to have been October 10,
1871, of 100 shares of stock.
Q. Did he pay that money to youi BE took
up the note.
Q. Whol A, Baldwin.
Q. Did he pay the money! to youi A. No, sir;
the note was in bank.
O. What bankl A. That is more than can
remember; but / think it was the Bank of the
Metropolis.
O. Who deposited the note therel A.
think 1 deposited it, or, possibly forget
whether that note was given to me or whether
it was given direct to Mr.. Young. think it
was given to me. know carried 1t some
time for him.
Q. For whomi A. For Mr.. Baldwin.
@. Did you pay Mr.. Young the money! A
Yes, Sir; paid Mr.. Young the money.
Q. When! A. When sold it to Mr.. Baldwin.
Q. Then you carried the notes YOURSELF A
Yes, sir.
Q. Mr.. Baldwin paid the money in the bank
for your own benefit! A. Yes, sir.
Q. What did Mr.. Young pay for this stock!
A. He paid the same as the others-2O per
cent. and sold it for 25.
ByNMr Bass: Q. l don't understand one
thing. It appears that your contracts with the
Board of Public Works, and with the old gov
eminent together, were S46O, SSS. Your aggre-
gate contracts were S595, sos. A. You get in,
YOU see this Sl35, 900, which did individually
Q. How! A. Outside of the company.
Q. Did you keep the account in these books!
A. No; it has not been kept in these books. 1t
has been kept outside.
O. Then that S135,OOO worth of work OF
which you speak furnished no part Of this $50, >
900 profit A. Oh, no; not at all.
Q. So the $4,000 is the profit on S46O, 1881
A. Yes, sir.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. Who was interested with
you in the work outside of the company A.
In portion of it Mr.. Evans and Mr.. Kilbourn.
Q. Anybody else' A. No, sir.
Q. Was there any other person interested in
any portion of the work that Evans and Kill
bourn were not interested inl
The Witness. OF my work.
A. No, sir. =
Q. Some you had in your own individual
right; anybody associated with youl A. No,
sir.
Q. And some you had with Kibourni A.
They were interested.
By Mr.. Christy: Q. When was that company
dissolved? A. In October, 1872.
BY Mr. Merrick: Q. Was Mr.. James G. Ber-
rett stockholder in that company A. No,
sir; never.
Q. None Of the shares transferred to him at
any time A. No, sir.
Q. These contracts that you have spoken of,
the amount of which you have given, did they
include the contracts of Evans and Filbert, in
which you were interestedl A. No, sir these
are exclusive of those contracts.
z. In their name in which you had an inter
est A. Yes, sir; didn't keep those ac-
counts.
Q. understand that.
By Mr.. Christy: Q. You were present with
Mr.. KiIbourn and Mr.. John o. Evans in New
York in August, III, were you mott A. Yes,
Sir.
Q. You were there at the time Mr. Kilbourn
wrote the letter with which we are all familiar?
A. knew nothing about the letter until saw
it published in the New York Sun.
q. Since your attention has teen called to
that letter, have you become satisfied of the
truth OF the statement contained in the letter [?
The Witness: In what respectl
Z. So far as the statement relates to any OF
the pavement companies in this District, or are
they inaccuratel A. 1 do not know to what
you refer.
o. will refresh your recollection. Mr..
Christy then read as follows:l
Evans, CIephare and myself left Washington
last night TO visit Philadelphia and this place and
"gobble up" all the asphalt or concrete pave
mcnts we can. In Philadelphia to-day we
secured FIlbert's vulcanite pavement, which
Is bong used quite extensively in the park,
We shall close up the business tomorrow
in black and white. We bought steam
roller to-day from an English agent, who orders
liTered about a., 200. We shall secure another
stone-breaker and o lot Of asphalt tomorrow. The
Board Of Pubic Works have asvertised for pro
posals for paving, TO be opened next Friday, the
lst inst. We propose to be prepared for them.
We had to make small ring OF about seven per-
sons in or to accomplish results. In this ring We
put all the concretes. Evans Olephane, yourself
Kelly, Kidwell and myself comprise six OF the
'srlng." We shall put it in the best shape pos
asphalt pavemeu.s. We will 60 home Sunday
evening and get all things in readiness for lst Sep
tcmber.
= G. Nov, Iwish you to say what, If any, por-
ton OF this is incorrect. A. The statement In
regard 70 our making an arrangement with DR..
Filbert for his pavement is correct. The state
ment as to the purchase or arrangement for
the purchasing of the steam roller is incorrect.
The statement about "gobbling up" know
nothing about; am in no way responsible for
It, and did not know there was any such ar
rancement. The statement abou: securing
another stone breaker, that l know nothing
about. l had stone breaker at work here at
the time, and we talked about having another
stone breaker, but made no arrangement about
IT, =
Q. As to the amount Of asphalt A. did
nothing about it. 1 do not think any purchase
mas made of asphalt at all.
Q. Do you desire now to contradict any
other part of this letter! A. do not know any
other part Of it.
O. Don't you think that has the air and spirit
of conspiracy A. No, sir; l do not.
O. You don'u A. l do not.
Q. Admitting all this 10 be true, every state.
mcnt Of this letter, including this: "H. D. C.
tells me to draw on him for S25 900 cash, for
real estate poolP' a. That l do not know any
thing about.
Q. That being admitted to be true, would
not you say, as q reasonable person, that it was
q fair inference that there was a combination
in the nature Of conspiracy A. l should
think net. do not see how any man can draw
such an inference.
Mr.. Hamilton. That is rather a question OF
law.
The Witness. think so. do not think any
man could draw such an inference.
Mr.. ChTisty. The reason l asked this ques-
ton of this witness is this: He prefaces his
statement under oath with round sentences,
Saying that certain malicious ISLANDERS are In
the charges made by the memorialIsts.
The Witness. ! so regard them.
Mr.. Christy. Now wish to ascertain whether
these malicious ISLANDERS are made by Hallett
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