The New York herald., 1874-08-15

IN his handwriting, and Ohe OF November TO- ISL
PAYABLE 70 the order OF Franz Moulton and indorsed
~ ms nah9wr'thg; anu one o, May -. 1872, TO the
ofder o, L. II. Moultou, AM asa lndorsed III ms
handwlting; each OF these tnat are marked ..lor
deposit across the ace nave oeenSld.
Z. AS neary as you can recotlcc, now much
money went INTO the hands OF Mr.. MoukonY A. |
SHOULD say have pald 81 001.
q. 10 what use did you suppose that money was
to be Appropriated A. | supposed that lt Vas 10
pe appropriated TO extricate Mr. Titon from his
difficulties IN some way.
z. Yoo did not stop to inquire how or why a.
Mouiton sometimes sent NE IA note saying, II VISA
you Would nov send me your cnecS, y ior SO much;
u Diu you usually respond to the demands OF
MI. Moulton Tor money during those months ?
A. always did.
Q. Under what circumstances did you come 10
pay the $4,000 In one sum- A Because II was
represented 10 me that the whole difficulty could
would put the affairs oi the Golden Age on a secure
iootlng; that they would be able TO go right on,
ana tnat with the gong on OF them tue safety or
liiton would be assured, and that would be the
settlement OF the whole thing; 1t was to save
T1iton pecuniarily.
q. We're there any documents shown TO you by
Mouitony What did he show you before you made
the payments A. II was the result oil utlmations
and general statements, ana finally said 10 him.
al am willing to pay s5,Ooo;r came to do it IN
this way There was a discussion ABOUT that
paper; Moulton was constantly advancing money.
as he said 10 me, TO help Tilton; the paper was
needy; one evening was at his house; we we're
alone together in the back parior, and Moulton
took out oil ms pocket letter from -; IT was
read 10 me, IN which the writer mentioned con-
triDutions which the writer had made to 1heo-
uOIe, uuucrStoOu iEOul nlm THAT the writer OF
this letter had given MIN some thousands OF
dollars down In cash. ana then taking
out Two time checks or drafts, which, as
tnoagn am not sure OF that; there were two
cnecks eacn OF them amounting TO $1,000 or $4,000
more, and should think IL amounted IN all 70
about $1,000 although my memory about QuaDtl-
ties and figures is TO De taken with great allow
ance; bur 1t produced the impression In me that
the writer had given him 81 600 or $4,000 IN cash
down. and, as the writer explained In the letter,
1t was not convenient to give the balance in money
han
drawn time drafts, which would be
%sston s5 as s.nnsS ;siul ,Os to him and
call riendship," and was stupid. and SAID,
Yes it was:' afterward, when got home, and
.wnat iool' | never dreamed what he meant; p
then went to him and said to him, II am willing
to make a contribution and put the thing beyond
this-'That he thought it would be the Uest in
vestment that ever ! made in my nie;' |
a mortgage OF $4,000 on my house; l took
check which was given me by the banks lawyer
and put it into the bank, and on Mouiton's sug.
gesron that II would be better than TO have a
check drawn 10 his order, drew the money in
$500 or 81, 600 bills, have forgotten wlich but
know that they were large Tor carried the roll in
my hand. and these | gave into his hands; from
time to time, he spoke IN the most glowing terms,
and said that ne was feeding 1t out to Theodore,
and he said that at the time OF the rst insa ncnt
he gave Theodore $500 at once, and that he sent
but that Theodore did not sign it and sent IL back
to him, saying that he saw no prospect IN the end
OF paying loans, and that he could not honorabiy,
therefore, expect them and refused to sign any
note, and Moulton laughed significantly and SAID
tnat Tilton subsequently took the money without
@. Did you receive any note OF security what.
ever, or evidence OF debt from Mr.. Mouton, or mas
theSe neen a9y % oner TO return the money to your
MoULrON WANTS BBEcHER's FORTUNE.
Q. Has Moulton said anything 10 you about
About the time q the pSDlcation q the Bacon
that he had orered $4,000 in gold to Tilton Il
he would not publish that letter, ana that at the
q sa Monitor , ns
this matter without leaving Moulton in an awk.
ward posi- ton. and that he offered 5000 in gold
some little conversation about supply OF money,
and ne said that mad better
GIVE HIN MY WHOLE FORTUNE
than have T1lton 60 on In mis- course
Q. That you had better give your whole fortune
to Mr; TT l1lsoni A. Yes, rather than have Tilton 60
9. was that before or after the publication Of
q! ne Bacon letter! A. A: ! can't be certain about
=. Did Mr. Moulton ever question you in regard
10 this matter, whether You had ever spoken On
mind about its A. He did, not many weeks ago
auong the last interviews had with him.
think on the SABBATH aSV alter the
appointment OF this committee; l preached but
he saw me, ana SAID to me ne in Conversation a.. -
You have never mentioned about that i've thous-
over Johnson Sne or Of one
because he was SAYING something to me one day
about what some Of Tllton's friends were say ing,
and incidentally mentioned that to him, which
he never repeated. suppose, to anybody; Moulton
SAID Il viii never admit that; shall deny it
O. Have you any objections to state what TIL
toms irenos were saying TO Oliver johnson and
or to say 20
she friends OF Tilton he had heard reproacnes made
against me; that neither was endeavoring to nelp
nnp in n fbnpV ovvN
that the expression was this, that mad been the
instrument OF his being thrown OF the track in
piled in substance that so far as reputation was
concerned, not only longed and tried to do what
Woodhulls was fatal to HIM and could not make
any head against it, and with regard TO the other,
| 81 SAID to him MIN that ! had neen wiling to help
him. him ma'e''S' ana mat recently pa'o $1,000 TO
rlLroA's BEATrr1c.
Q. Did you see and have conversation with
Tilton soon after the payment OF the ,0002 A..
On the sunday morning following the payment Of
met Mr.. TiIton standing right opposite the house
he put his arm through mine and was In his most
bea.lac mood: while walking along down to
mercy and peace TO me, and at snat time reco
ieet thinking mat $4,000 Is very modifying.
note which the committee have In evidence as FOL
lows
Grace mercy and peace. TT.
A. Yes; he sent it on Sunday morning by his
wife, who had II laid on my pnlpir stand.
BY MI. Cleveland-If your mortgage was dated
about May !, 1873, the money, OIL course was paid
to Mr.. Moultou after your mortgage was made ?
A. Yes, sir. did not Keep the money an hour; I
went with 1t directly from the Mechanics Bank.
where drew 1t, and put 1t into Mouton's hands
on the same day, and within few hours
q. At his nouseY A. do not know.
Q. Did you nave trouble with Mr. T1lton during
the latter part or that month"; before June l, 1873
A. do not know the months IN which have not
had trouble with him: but he made special out.
burst at the end OF the month OF May, 1873, &C.
count OF the publication OF the trlpartite agree.
ment which led to my letter TO Moulton, June !,
1873.
FRAME CARPENTER.
Q. Here rs letter dated May /, 1874, In which
Tlton refers to some story OF Carpenter about
your Offering money. Did you receive that letter.
A. did, sir; 1t was magnificent humbuR; I
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