National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-05

grading and another man did the paving.
Q. When you went oct 70 measure thai grading
q: Then when you measured the pavement you
made no deduction for the amount o. grading. Is
q. Had you any Instructions 4 nom the board or
any ofioer Of the board 70 make any deduetions on
account Of grading when the grading had already
been done BY somebody slsef A. No, sir; that
Q. Did you 20 ont With Mr.. Same and Mr.. For.
syth to make any measurementf A Yes. sir
G. How did you make those measurementsf a.
With steel-t2pe and rods.
e Did you take any pronles or cross-sections
q. when you aid not have them how aid you get
along thenf A, We used the landmarks; we did
q. That was Just simply making tho best guess
you oouldf A. We made pretty good guess,
q. How did you get at the hauit A. I DO not
think, in many cases, there Is no haul charged at
all In the vouchers, OF course, the haul was
o. Did you 70 to the vouchers to ge. at the e1-
tent Of the haulf A. II We charged Il; but l
| think whenever the haul 10 charged II Is rather
less than the actual hsui-I mesh charged % the
Government; bus IN eontraesors' accounts the haul
g. How did you get 9. this matter of the nlling
Witness. Do you mean the amount charged to
t tSs s GSysrhmentt A. The qsantisy Of sar'n In
Witness. The amount charged to the Govern
witness. That is from actual measurement.
Ieu smouns iftn %hsrs
large amount came rom, but not all - -
q. Where did 1t come fromf A. A part came
from Tenth street, Eleventh street. from Twelfth
street, and some from New York avenue and
q. From Msssaehu avenuei A. No. aiarse
part OF It. but q large part Of II nom square m
4 Then 0 very large amount from b street south,
q street, street south, and as far Is street
By Mr.. Thurman Q. Had these paving con
was to s1
was included in his price. Was there haul also
included In this prioei A. We did not consider it
Q. Did they charge for hsuIs A. think they
got the haul In some cases on the two foot OF
q. They got the haul where there was
Q. At what rate did they get paid for the hsulF
cubic 0t the rate
q. At 1rst . haif-cent cubic yard for each one
ssa Ii o sss raised one cent
Nh. Mattingiy. He explained this morning. in
BY the Chairman. Q. Did you make an actual
the entire distance. 1 went over 1t, think, as
far as Fourteenth street with Colonel Same. The
balance he made himself
canal was $50 feet wide except down from Sew
enth street up to Maryland avenue; but we took
the actual area Of the canal as itHss and 60, IL
must give the cnblcsl content Of the canal
q, How did you get OF It's depthI From the
would give considerabiy more than We gave We
took the side lines as they existed, and think
allowed two feet in addition TO that.
q. How did you get at the side lines efter they
were filled upf A. We knew exactly how they
q. And then you allowed two feet in additiOntO
q. What was that fort A. Because the centre
was considerably deeper than the sides; but ]
SSa
q. Did you make out the vouchers to Mr.. Uluss
ever had any vouchers for filling that canal. He
filled largely In the canal, but do not think
there were any vouchers made out, particularly
q. Didn't he get large amount of money for
| filling the canalf A. BE got large amount Of
money for excavation and tnsn the haul to the
O. That was for excavation on the streets. A.
Yes, sir; and then the haul to the canal, II 1t was
q. This square 2ls-where is that, A. Two hun.
tred and twelve, think 1t is That is on Massa-
q. Is that Government property A. No, sir;
q What property P Is III Z 1t is private prop
erty, but for some reason or other, with which I
am not perfectly familiar, the board concluded to
| cut the square down. You know the extreme cut
| the excavation Of the square between Four
men quite high, and to relieve them from that
situation, and think for the purpose OF avoiding
damages, they concluded to cut the square down:
that earth to the canal: A. Yes, Sir. @N '
in this wsyT a. There Is senator Edmunds,
Among others Commodore Almy, Mr.. Fox, Mr..
Bryan, Mr. Morsell, Mr.. Wilson. $50
Q. Have you any means Of knowing how much
earth taEan thOsA A II m
have been in the neighborhood ofls,0o0 or 1000
yards Will have to go back TO the voucher,
Q. Was that charged up to the filling Of the
q. Or was il charged up to Massachusetts ave-
tor vouchers will show that.
Q. Who can tell you about that A. That
will be in the auditors vouchers.
Q. understood from him this morning that
the haul was charged to the canan A. Oh,
certainly we did not charge the haul g the
Government In the Government measurement.
Q. Would you charge the Government with
the cartha A. We charged the Government 30
cents, and the haul alone was
Q. Is this the fact, that the Board of Public
Works cut down this private property and put
the earth into the camel, and charged up that
grading to Massachusetts, avenue? A. cannot
say that. don't think that was charged to
Massachusetts, avenue-that grading. -
Mr.. Mattingly. On Massachusetts avenue,
in front of that square this cutting down the
property, / don't think the excavation went
beyond the building-line. How is that, Mr..
Oertlyl
Witness. No, sir. '.---..
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. Didn't you 90 beyond
the building.line A. OF that square proper;
but don't think 1t was charged to the avenue,
but that had nothing to do with.
Q. Did understand you to say O moment
ago that that was graded down and the cost OF
the grading was set of against damages to |
that property A. That was my understand |
Ing, but beg to say that I am not positive |
about that.
Government In measuring the canal for earth |
that came out of the avenuesf A. There is no |
allowance made whatever.
Q. But there is earth that came out of the
avenues paid for by the Government and |
charged up to the Government! A. And the |
amount from the avenues is certainly very
small. don't think it win exceed 20 per cent,
If 1t possibly can reach that. You viii find
the charge made to the Government Is only 40
cents.
q. The question was going to ask you Is,
whether you had ever examined to see whether
the Government had been charged twice for
grading In this way-frst charged the Govern
ment with two thirds of the excavation of the
avenues, and then charged the Government
" teA ANO oaAshe OppOSilo the OOVernmeQL prOD-
reservations. Has your at
IGNITION ever been attracted to that A. It has
been attracted so much to 1t that think
coincide fully with Colonel samo's request to
have complete re-ststement and re-measure- '
nent. The amount derived from the avenues
or the filling of the canal can hardly exceed ]
% per cent.
Mr.. Wilson. am talking about another {
natter. For example, taking Massachusetts,
venue. You charged the Government with c
wo-thirds of the grading where there is pri-
ate property on both sides. "
Mr.. Mattingly. That is not so.
Q. Then you reach the Government property,
What l want TO get at Is this: Have you c
harged the Government with two thirds of the
enath Of the avenue, and .hen in addition 70
hat charged the Government with five sixths {
pposite Government property A. Certainly. I
9. Then you have charged the Government
vice? v
Mr.. Mattingly. don't think he understands {
our question, Mr.. Wilson.
To the witness: Did you charge the Gov Q
rnment anything along the avenues where n
here is no Government property A. OIL
purse not. We charged the private property p
ne third where there is private property, and
here there IL Government property we charged A
1e Government with the remaining thifd,
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. Suppose there was Gov Ct
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