National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-01

self or your friends. consistently, 1t VIII be my
pleasure to perform; bat I know you would NOD
ask me 70 Do snything that could not do con-
IS public oftieer.
foarA very sraiy A., = !, - ,g,,,, sia
Bon. o. B. Fdrsosli, chicago. M.
- win state that 1 never knew Of the exist
ence of Mr.. Kirkland or Mr.. Calvin Brown
until this testimony began. ! viii stase fqr-
Their that, hearing week or ten days .go, m
cidentally, that my partner, Colonel Moore,
was acquainted with NJ Kirkland, 4 went non
here at the recess and questioned him IN regard
70 his acquaintance with Mr.. Kirtlsnd. He
told me at that time that he had known MI.
Kirkland while he WIS here-while this matter
was under consideration; that he was In the
habit Of coming into the store; that be had
been acquainted with him }olg whiles and
that he had spoken to him in regard 10 OBJ
taining contract, and had made him certain
promises. said to Colonel Moore ct the time,
1'Why did you not speak to me and let me
know that these parties were making you Of
fersi' He said, "WelI, did not consider II wae
my place to say ANYTHING about It," I said tc
him then that thought he had acted In bad
faith toward me, and that he placed me In an
embarrassing position, and ons whichEI could
not appreciate just at that moment. heard
nothing more of the matter 90 far as this kirt-
been stated to the committee by counsel, and
night before last, upon hearing Colonel Moore't
testimony, be came and told me what he had
said to the committee; that he had written
memorandum made with these parties. said
to him that while 1t was the most painful thing
that had occurred to me In my life our business
must cease; which 1t did this morn
itR. -,...'....- -e,e1J ..Et
I have laid the matter before the committee,
and shall be glad to answer any questions
that they may put to me. have here the
award IN the .ietterIbeok. It Is as follows:
= Es.....--s BOARD OF PUBLIC woRKs, y
DISTRICT OF CoLUMsA, I
you contract TO lay one hundred and nifty thou
sand yards Of wooden pavement Of the patent
known ss the :.DeGolyer No. 2n-wood 70 be
treated by the Semuels procession such streets
as may be designated, the whole to be completed
within I'VE months from this date. An additional
amount Of my thousand square yards will be
awarded you so soon as the board Is reimbursed
by the General Government on account Of ex-
penditures around public buildings and grounds,
or you will be allowed to lay 1t this season If you
can wait until an appropriation Is made for this
purpose, at three dollars and ty cents per square
yard.
Very respectfully, &c.
Kessrs. DeGoIyer 4 Eecisiiaa, oStcGgo, III.
BY the Chairman Q. Have you exhibited
10 the committee all the letters and papers
with this DeGolyer & Mcclellan
contract 90 far as you knowi A. think there
are some letters from Mr.. Chittenden, but
nothing which hint at or have any relation to
this matter. --rs "A ~ Al. SCI, (.
By Mr.. Stewart: Q. Did you have any con-
with Colonel Moore about this con-
tract at the time It was in progress of negotis-
toni A. Never but once: / was going up the
stairs ct my store to my private Office, and
Colonel Moore came out from his desk, which
ic behind, and said to me, There are certain
parties here striving to get contract" He
mentioned the name Chittenden "What are
you going to do about iti"t Says /, ~ do not
know anything about it; that is matter for
the Board Of Public Works to deter
subject vet" think that was the
only time he ever spoke to me about it. He
may have spoken again about &c, but it was in
such q desultory way and, without any ap-
parent purpose, that took no notice Of 1t at
all. -. ---..-.....-.-
By Mr.. Hubbell: o. Did you know before you
heard of Colonel Moore's testimony here that
be had at any time a written agreement or
A. ] did not. ] had no con-
ception of it.
Q. Please state to the committee, If you can
just the exact conversation which
occurred between you and Colonel Moore at the
time you called on him during the recess. A.
said to him, "Billy, have heard that you
know this man Kirkland" Says he, "Yes, 1
know him." "Well," says ], "what do you
know about himi Said he-he went on to
speak Of his having been here IN the war from
1852, an officer In "Scott's Nine Hundred"
that he was q clever fellow, and o friend Of
his; and said then that he was mixed up in
this Chittenden contract business. He said,
"Yes, he Is mixed up in It, and he wanted me
10 help him about It, and offered to give me
part Of the money" "Well," says !, "you did
not have anything to do with #, did youi Says
be, "Not thing" He went on, and made
some general statement in regard to 1t, but
there was no point in It that impressed me at
the time.
Q. Did he tell you at that conversation that
Kirkland had at one time offered him half of
the hottest A. Yes, sir he told me that Kirt-
land had offered him some of the notes, but he
declined to have anything to do with them.
Q. Did he say that Kirkland had offered him
any money! A. That am not positive about.
He had offered him some Of the proceeds, but
he said that he had declined to take 1t. He
stated something to this effect: that Kirkland
had said to him that he was going to sell the
notes and put the proceeds to his credit in New
York, or somewhere else. 1 asked him If he
had ever done Soft he had ever touched the
money. He said he had not.
u.
about awarding contracts to other partiesi A.
Never, to my knowledge.
@. Was this letter Of ex-senator Doolittle to
Governor Cooke the first intimation you ever
had that notes had been giyeni A. The first
ever heard Of the transaction.
Q. Did you ever follow up that investigation
TO see to whom these notes had been gfvenf A.
had no means Of following up the investiga.
ton. Mr.. Chittenden was not here, and had
no means Of finding out where the notes went
To-. ] supposed that the matter would be ven
tilated In court. Twas anxious that It should
be, and acted in the manner have stated to
the committee. .
By the Chairman: @. When did you first in
innate to those parties that you would not per-
NIT them to 90 on with the contract A. About
the time they were doing the work on Pennsyl-
wanna avenue-fnishing up their work on
Pennsylvania avenue east and Eighth street;
which, If my memory serves me right, was
along in December, 1872, or January, 1873.
Q. With whom did you have that converse
ton or interview A. had It on their ground
with their foreman, and, 1 think, with Mr.. Nc
Clellan, and with everybody connected with 1t.
was not slow about expressing myself In re-
gard to It.
Mr.. Mattingly. would state, Mr.. Chairman,
that have here an abstract of journal entries
of the board relating to this matter. The jour
nal entries are as follows:
g. r. Ohittenden, June 20. 1872: He requested
that in contracts made with DeGolyer McClel-
Ian article No. 4, which gives the board the right
10 suspend contracts without any assignable res
son. be stricken out. &c-No. 46fs vol. q 1877; file.
August "a, 1874 mo. $50, vol. I, 1871 he de-
sired TO know Is the use Of spruce instead Of pine
by Messrs. DeGolyer & Mcclellan, meets the ap-
prevail Of the board, and whether the same is as
satisfactory as pine. August q 1s72 he Was notI-
fed by telegraph that spruce timber would be &C.
cepted II properly treated and up to the standard,
in fulfliment Of contract Of DeGolyer McClel-
A, 1s72, page 4eS.
September Is, ls72, he forwarded an application
ing to tho peGoIyer patent No. q to the extent Of
200, 900 square yards, pine or spruce, and stated
the application 10 from DeGolyer b Mcclellan,
and Is for further work, not interfering with that
already awarded them-No. e275, vol. 4, 1879; hle.
De Golyer & Mcclellan. May II, 1877, made
application for laying lto,ooo square yards Of
2n-No. asa vol. 2, 1s12.
June Is, 1872, chief engineer was directed to
prepare o contract with Messrs. DeGolyer q
Mcclellan, CT Chicago, H., for laying 1eo, 900
square yards Of DeGolyer wooden pavement No.
2, treated BY Samuels, process, and % Be laid on
and to be completed in I'VE (s) months; and an
additional 600 square yards a. soon ss the board
are reimbursed by the General Government on
account Of expenditures around public buildings
and grounds, or they will be allowed % lay Il this
t3so per square yard.-Journal A, 1s52, page 81.
June Is, le72 they accepted the contract, %
above stipulated. Mo. ts46, vol. q 1872.
July II, lef2, ordered by the board that the
roadway on Pennsylvania avenue, from First 20
wooden pavement No. :, treated By the ssmreli
process. and that contract be made with De9ol.
yer Mcclellan 70 lay the same ct tS.5o per