National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-07

| Q. Where IL the reference to It in this
SCHEDULED A. There are those number of sewers
right opposite to It. You will find those various
sewers right opposite to It, there on New
Hampshire avenue.
Q. There Is the item on the first page of this
schedule, from vouchers Of Bartlett VIII
liams: Tiber, It's feet, at sl02.50: s17, 9S7. so.
| Where Is the corresponding item on the other
side of the scheduled A. On what page7
A. It is page 1859, toward the bottom Of the
page, afth or sixth item. A. That never has
been charged. ~
Q. How Is it fair to make up schedule for
the purpose Of getting an average in which you
have included work that has never been charged
| the Government, and as understand which
you claim the Government should compensate
the District for at the rate Of $102.50 a foot,
to include that schedule, Of course, for the
purpose OF bringing your average up to S4.7Oi
A. It should have been charged at the time,
but 1t had been done long ago, and 1t was over
looked. -a.|F. u : = -s.
| Q. That Is an error that should not be in7
A. No, sir; think you ought to give US that
/ credit. ... -. TWO
| Mr.. Bass. Yes, sir; but you are asking COM
pensation of the Government for It; not at the
rate of $40, but you ask compensation at
sl0S or s102.50. A. No, sir; I do not. only
| state It cost US that. ....r ....-.
Mr.. Bass. I understand you ask the Govern
ment to pay per foot at S4.70, which you say
was the average price; but you ask the Gov
eminent to pay for it at the rate Of s102. so 9
footf A. No, sir; l did not ask the Govern
ment to pay for it. / only say that the cost Of
those sewers- r-- -- p. 81. -r-- .-
| Q. If that is not so you will look upon page
20 Of the report of the Board of Public Works
and You wili find that IL Is claimed that the
United States should pay for the Tiber sewer.
in front OF the Government printing office, s12,-
900. That must be at more than the rate
Of st.7o FOOT II cannot be over s170 foot
there. 49,. ASIA -s. --.. g.
The Witness. That is not New Jersey avenue.
| Q. No; Ii is North Capitol street, is it mott
A. Yes, sir. =.
Q. Very well; here is precise item. If you
will look at that item on the middle of page
1865, from Bartlett & Williams, North Capitol
street, 172 feet six inches, 1886. That is the
Tfber sewer, Is It noti A. Yes, sir; but thst Is
not at the printing office. It is the same sewer,
but IL Is At tho intersection of New Jersey ave-
nue. and North Capitol street. The other is
New Jersey avenue and H street.
Q. Have you ever known any bills to be
made out against the United States Govern
ment for constructing the Tiber sewer at the
rate of $40 per lineal foot3 A. Not the Tiber
sewer. They ought to have been charged in
full at the time, but they were overlooked.
The sewers were all down.
Q. We will go to another point. Take the
Governors answer. / want to call attention
to three or four items that / do not fully COM
prehend, and perhaps you can explain them.
In the first place, on page All, look at the
charge against the United States as to Con-
necticut avenue-the charge in that voucher.
You will notice there is a charge against the
United States of S172, 899.40. Then the United
States is credited, "Deduct amount appropri-
ated January, 1873, at NJ and Eighteenth
streets, $40, 0OO." Now, turn to the appropri-
alton of January, 1873, to be found on page
4S7, and you will find that item of Connecticut
avenue toward the bottom of the page, and the
amount of that appropriation, instead of being
SIC, 900, was $40, 7S065. A. Yes, sir.
Q. Why should not the whole 5000 have
been deducted, and not the $4,000. Why was
thatl
The Witness VIII you allow me to Illustrate
by means of diagraml
Mr.. Bass. Certainly; any way to show 1t.
i CINE witness proceeds to explain by means
Of diagram.)
Mr.. Bass. Let me see If get your meaning
right. You claim that the appropriation of
January, 1874, Of $50, 7S0.65 was to reimburse
the Board of Public Works for work which was
done on Connecticut avenue, and also on the
other side OF the reservation at NJ and Eigh-
teenth streets; and that you wero only required
to deduct 80 much Of that voucher as applied
exclusively TO the work on Connecticut avenue
side of the reservation.
!. The Witness. That is correct.
Mr.. Bass. Then that should apply also to the
next item of 81, 900, and also to another item
of SIS, 900 on the same page, and to the vari-
Gus other items of q similar character run
ming all through the youcherl A. Yes, sir; in
some cases.
Mr.. Wilson. That has been done all over the
city.
Mr.. Bass. 1t is all through this voucher, for
have followed it through.
The Witness. In some cases the deductions
are full where they were to be full, but where
the streets were concerned, of course only that
portion due to the respective avenue was de-
Quoted.
By Mr.. Bass. Q. Now, call your attention
to another case on page Alb, which is a little
different from that. Look at the one on the
bottom of the page con New York avenue,
from Ninth to Fifteenth street, northwest"
In that Is included different classes of work,
amounting to $272, 131 80; and It Is on New
York avenue from Ninth to Fifteenth streets,
and from Seventeenth to Eighteenth streets
Why did not you deduct from the amount of
. that voucher the amount of the voucher
on page 40, which represents money
paid by the United States to theDis-
trict government for work on New York ave-
nue., In tho January appropriation, New York
avenue, Thirteenth street, and II street north
west-frst item. 1t covers the same territory
A. II is one of those unfortunate headings. It
is really II street. 1t Is not New York avenue.
1t is that triangular space by Gurley's church.
Mr.. Bass. No; there is deduction at Cur
ley's church.
The Witness. That is deducted.
Mr.. Bass. That is another item.
The Witness. It is really another item, and
It ought to be II street. The heading ought to
Thirteenth street, instead of New York ave-
nue..
Governor Shepherd We will have Colonel
Same bring up the scale-book, if you desire.
Mr.. Bass. l wish you would, Governor. l do
not exactly understand this.
The Chairman. / was out this morning. You
may have explained, but If you have l would
like to have you state 1t again. You made the
average in order to ascertain the amount prop
erly chargeable to the Government for the cost
of seweragei A. Yes, sir.
Q. In making up that average and estimate
did you include the total cost Of the seweragel
The Witness. How do you meant
@. You say in this statement here
In consequences of thesevers, which had to be
: measured In January, 1873, being Of many differ
snt siIss.l2nch lS,lnch, lSine5 2oInch "a, and "A;
foot brick sewers, mot to speak Of the large Ii
Der sewer, Bstreet intercepting sewer, Missouri
above Of Inherent depths. varying from feet to
+ 20 feet and overland for the purpose Of facli-
tating the measurements and accounts, an aver
age size OF the sewer was assumed, and 1t was
. thought that the cost Of an 1S-inch pipe sewer
would be nearest that average.
v. 10 you mean 10 say tnat you TOOK an
average of the cost, or that you estimated the
total cost Of sewerage in making that average;
that you took into account all the sewers, big
and littlei A. Except those enormously large
sewers, like Tiber Creek sewer, and B-street
interesting sewer, that we never included at
these average prices.
@. Then, in making up this average price,
you excepted the B-street intercepting sewer
and the Tiber Creek sewerl A. Yes, sir.
Q, Any other seweri A. 1 think the Slash
Run sewer.
Q. And the average of the BALANCED A. Yes,
sir.
Q. The B-street intercepting sewer, then,
you have charged the Governmental the actual
, COST A. Excepting one-stxth Of some portions
Of adjoining property.
Q. And so ofthe ffber and Slash Runsewers'
A. Yes, sir.
Q. In making up this average, and verifying
your account, you did take in portion of the
intercepting sewer, and also the Tiher sewer,
didn't youl A. I give the credit on both sides.
Governor Shepherd. There has been some
talk of an over-charge Of sewer work, and we
had q statement prepared Of what we had re-
ceived on account of the sewers, and what had
been expended. This statement of 1t here was
intended for that purpose. 1t Is not made with