New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-12-08

that he and other Catholics do as matter of fact
acquiesce a condition of society they are power
less attack is either beside the point or needless
But Lord Acton and Lord Camoys are not left TO
bear up alone against the food OF Ultramontane
letters against them. Mr.. Henry Petre, Catholic
Of distinguished position, comes to their support
Lord Camoyss statement seems to him PLAIN anu
straightforward" and its sound common sense to
require no confirmation. There are many, declares
Mr. Petre, among the old Catholics of England, who,
though oath TO resist the authority Of the Church.
watch with anxiety. not unmnged with regret,
the reckless and irrational proceedings of the Ultra
montana party" He describes that party as seek
ing impose upon the world with all the means of
powerful combination at its command, the astound-
ing claims issuing from the Vatcan-claims and
pretens!ons long since supposed to have been ex-
tnct. which now in their resuscitatiOn are tending
10 open hostility with modern progress and to col
lisiOn with every civil authority in Europe" Mr..
Petre appeals to his early training among the
Jesuits by whom he was brought up as sufficient
proof of his own orthodoxy and knowledge when he
atlirms that the new dOgmas of the Immaculate
Conception and personal Infallbility were not then
articles of faith. And he concludes with emphasis:
The claims OF the Vatican to supreme and infallioe
authority all things pertaining to faith and morals,
the limits OF which the Vatican is alone to decide EN-
relation branch OF human h,e that may easily
contemplate the OF the Church casning with the
civil authority Under such circumstances the only re-
ply loyal subject could possibly make TO Mr.. Glad
stones appeal would be, IAN EIglishman first,
Catholic after"
1t would be too much to say that Mr.. Gladstone
has divided the English Roman Catholics into two
parties. The two parties existed before Bat he
has brought their division into such a clear day
l. = ,,cor ,b,+a
least his appeal has accomplished its object. 1t has
removed every shadow of doubt from the loyalty of
the Liberal Catholics-from their loyalty not merely
in the circumstances of to-day, when it has been
subjected only to theoretical test, but in any pos
sibe circumstances of conflict between the ecclesi-
astcal power of Rome and the civil power of En-
gland. In all circumstances, Lord Acton, Lord
CamOys, Mr. Henry Petre, and those who think with
them are Engishmen first, Catholics afterward'
Is il any longer possible to affirm the thing of
the UltramOntanes. of whom MOnsgnOr Capel is the
spokesman Have they not affirmed the distinct
contrary of that And since the Ultramontane
are probably much the stronger section of English
Catholics and are certainly an immense majority of
Irish Catholics how is TO be denied that Mr.. Glad
stones ExpOstulation was material and seasOnable
The authenticity of the speech attributed to the
Pope in Daily Ne,cs telegram from Rome the sub
stance of which I copied into recent letter, is
officially" denied. This is as might have been ex-
pected and the value of an official denial from be-
hind the Vatican throne is understood. But the
denial is itself denied. dispatch to The Morning
Post, referring TO the contradiction, says il was
framed to certain appearances and interests =
and the Fdnttd. described in this dispatch as the
best informed journal. can positively assert that
the same text of the speech forwarded by the
English Legation to the British Government" and l
dare say The Daily Ne,cs itself will have word to
say on the matter. 1t publishes neither telegram
this morning and is probably waiting to hear from
its correspondent. Il. W. S.