National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-02

Moore was in friendly wayto hep you, al
that you never spoke to any member OF III
Eoara q, Pqhli Works. Now, low did you
expect 70 >sdcceed, mless Though somebody
That cohld help you with the board; and (
there was any such person that you spoke to
on did not speak TO, who wes thatpersopi a.
1 do not knos what intiuence ANYBODY around
contract. IL preeups thee are dozen. Mr.
Chittenden told me of nobody that had any
interest In the contract; he did not tell me
about Brown.
@. am not asking you about Mr.. Chitten-
den. You undertook, with Mr.. Chittenden, to
secure this contract A. Yes. sir.
20. For consideration. Now you state 70
US that you never spoke 70 member OF The
boardi A. Yes, SRI Z TFT yFNF-UN
@. And that you only relied upon Coianel
Moore in friendly way to help you. How old
you expect to succeed A. / expected the
pavement was good, in the fifst iRstaece, and
presumed she contract would DO awarded.
Q. You expected, then, 70 succeed, not upor
anything you would do or have donei A. The
appropriation was mades They wanted the
contract, and 1 did not suppose the contractors
would have come here IL an appropriation had
not been made. The appropriation was made
and they had the contract. . !
9. Then you expected, IN other words, to de
no service whatever for the amount Of money
you were 10 receive Is that what you mean
A, The person that employed me was satisfied
and 1 was satisfied. s. go = 's's'1si- LiIs'il
o. Is that what YOU mean to have us under.
stand; that you expected! 30 do no service-to
perform no service for that A. My principal
was satisfied and was satisfied zsl -I--l-ss-
O. That Is no answer 10 the question. i
want it answered. A.7What do you want an
sweredl assn t-5gE.s-..-zz 8 g. ca. Lass
Q. You expected TO receive thirty-six cents
per square yard and render no service in re-
turn Is that what you want us to under
stsndl A. I think rendered some service.
O.. What did you dot That is just what we
wanted to find out. A. 1t would take q long
time to tell what 1 did. lsa e s.aara Iz75fseEl
Q. We have plenty of time to hear all that
you did in relation TO this contract. A. Well,
you will have to ask me questions; l cannot
tell you. If you will tell me what you want
to prove-Ido not know what the case Is, and
what the charges are against the Board Of
Public Works. 80 -. -
Mr.. Thurman. @, You need not trouble
yourself with what the charges are against the
Board of Public Works, s<''s'
BY the Chairman. @. Did You do anything
whatever for this $72, 900 which you received
in hottest A. I consider that did. 90
Q. What did you dor Just give Us one
single item ofwork that you did, A. re-
ported day by day to Chittenden. l. .ciccs =
@. Reported what A. That the thing was
progressing, and that there was very fair
chance that we should get the contract. rsa
Q. How did you know thati A. From the
fact tina. the pavement was good, and he stood
as good a chance as anybody. 49, .
Q. Not from anything anybody told youl A.
Not from anything anybody told me.
Q. Now, do you think that was an. important
performance on your part to report TO Chltteu-
den every day that no had q good pavement,
and that you thought hestood as good a chance
As any sbodyi Do you consider that as i'm
portant work. A. l do not know; think Is
was pretty important-yes. have nothing in
the world to conceal here, Mr. Chairman, at
all, and l am willing to answer all questions
frankly, touching the Board of Public Works.
They have never received a dollar of that
money; no member. and nobody connected
Herewith; and injured more than it has bene-
lifted me. .--. ,..-.-...-- .... 81. .
by Mr.. Hamilton: Q. You seem to have
been disposed TO eVade giving evidence here.
Have you not kept out of theway of the board
and out of subpoena! A. l came here two
weeks ago.
Q. Answer that question first Have you
not kept out of the way purposely and design
edly TO avoid giving evidence in this easel Say
yea or nay. A. Well, will say ..---
Q. Yea or nay; now let Us have an anwser to
that question, one way or the other. Have you
or not kept ont of the way of the process OF the
committee-aVoided being witness here pur-
posely and designedly3 A. No, sir. p. DE-. :,
Q. You say notl A. No. sir. o.
By the Chsfrmsn: Q. Colonel Kirkland, you
tell the committee now that you have nothing
TO conceal. That being SO, Iwant you without
any reservation to tell US what you did--what
negotiations you made-What transactions you
had with people, or with any person whatever
relating to this contract. A. Well, told you
had no statement to make, Mr.. Chairman.
What is it you want me to answer
Mr.. Thurman. The truth. m,
The Witness, Well, you are obliged to be-
lieve that, amt you'll I am under oath.
@. Web, then, give It. He asks you what
you did to earn that money! Now you know
what you did. A. I have told you what did.
Q. Have you told US all you did, A. Yes,
O. Do you pretend that s72, 900 was given to
you to 90 about the streets here, and then re-
port to Chittenden every day that things were
progressing. Do you expect US TO believe that,
sirl A. told you you would have to believe
Q. Not if you stop there, l don't; l tell you
that frankly. A. Well, you are Obliged to be-
By Mr.. Thurman: Q. Nobody else would,
either You Know what you did with, it Did
you promise any of that money to anybody A.
did after got II.
Q. To whom did you promise 1T A. Well,
I promised portion oft to William @. Moore.
Q. Why didn't you tell us that before. You
were asked what you did you were asked
whether you solicited influence. Why didn't
you tell that beforel A. Why you had not got
to the award yet. -r. 20 I --s. 10 ...rs-z
O. Never mind about the award, you were
asked what you did. Now why did you prom
Use that to Mr.. Mooref A. Well, It was be-
cause it was pretty good thing. Colonel
Moore and myself were old chums. -
@. How much did you promise to Mr.. Moorei
A. Well, / said, in laughing way, "Billy, II
get the money on this contract will go halves
with you"
O. Is that alR A. That Is all.
Q. Did you ever give him any contract
The Witness. Contract
Mr.. Thurman. Yes, sir.
The Witness. To Moorei
Mr.. Thurman. Yes, sir.
The Witness. No, sir. o..
O. Did you ever give him any wr.tinyi A.
do not remember any writing.
remember any. --H'lr--s .H
@. Did you ever give him any promise in
writingf A. No, sir not any promise In writ
Ing or anything at all, excepting, but in 0
joking way, says !, "BHly, IL this turns out all
right will 60 halves with you" as
q. Were you in earnest when you said thaN
A. Well, felt pretty good. & Sea- .-rrar
,. Q. Were you in earnesti You can answer
that question. Do you mean what you says
A. Well, generally do. ~ .---.g-
Q. That Is not the answer, Did you mean
what you said that you told him you would go
halves with hint Did you mean you would go
halves with himi A. Well, Imeant would go
pretty near halves, guess ,,.t.ra,.. So
A. And you meant that he should under
stand It 50, did youi A. Well, l do not know.
He did not $500,
Q. LIDO not ask you what he understood: but
you meant that he should understand Il so, did
YOU noti A, felt very liberal then; do not
know whether meant It or not. 49,
Q. When did you say that TO himi A. That
was after received the notes.
Q. That was after the award was made, was
1t noti A. Well, yes, sir. !. -. !.
@. Howl A. Yes, sir; he did not get any
thing before the award was made.
Q, You got no notes before the award was
madei A. No, sir, 49, T
Q. What did you mean by saying TO him that
IL things went right you would give him half
the hottest A. II I could sell them. I did not
think the man expected 10 pay the notes.
Q. Did you ever offer him specifically one Of
the notes themselEesi A. Well, think did.
Q. Why did you offer him the hottest A. Well,
because I did not think they were worth great
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