The New York herald., 1874-12-26


corLD NOT LAY QUIETLY NOR sLnEP
for thinking over what had occurred. when Asa.
sioner Alvord was here told him TO go and md
out what the President wanted nrst ana
r0Wn was soOs sway as rom my s and os
my people so. ana that though we were
wen, out on the Washita and camped. and et
badly stlll. Ony stopped there a snort time, went
on and then turned leaving tne wssaata ,ogp gpIS
Red River. We remained there awhile and started
In this way. told my people did not want 10
way. told them they had been driven OF through
tear. wanted 10 come back Immediately. so We
gave up all our arms ana ourselves. Tue on1cer
IN charge asked me TO- 20 with him on his scout.
AZ tais post l told them would go, and said also
tLat had been frightened away aud TINS was my
reaty 10 60 Some oruer came from them In TINS
way, don't know what, and we moved IN. They
MOTIVES OF THE KIOwAs
=, CoEhasPoS ,rar p, SpEsrmwhy did the Kowas nre OF
the troops . Is n rl the wasblta agency nghsY
BIG hkD fooD-l could not tell they are diner.
ent people from me. ! dont know what object
they had. this ne said with sigh. apparently
past and, though he complained OF a severe head.
ache. he said he would go on wltn the talk.l
CoRKEsPoNDsNInwe RES your people IN any ngnn
BIG RED FooD-we did not have any nghsing at
lHere he described circle with his handy None
Of our people went out on raids nor were In any
asEed me mat very aueson and called upon
the Great Spirit to witness the truth OF what ]
said and it's true. say SO now. ! asked wnat
was their authority, and they said the Kiowa
Mexican told them so. talked with him about 1t
and asked why he wanted me killed by lying about
me. He would not answer me. don't know why
ne should lie about me or have any ihing against
me.
CoRKEsPoNpENr-Have you had hard time OF It
BIG RED FooD1Yes; we had nothing to eat .so;a and
meat was the only thing had eat.
CORRESPONDENT Did you miss your coffee, sugar
BIG RED FooD-Yes, very much. We had those
things here, but while we were ous we were de.
prved OF everything OF that KIND He smiled here as
sugar, coffee and soft bread, with looking glasses.
VIII prove in his case me very best promoters OF
civilization and subordination.
HOW HE ESCAPED.
CoRREsPoNDENT-How did you manage to Is.
cape unhurt from the firing at you oy the SOL
BIG RED Foop-l knew they were nring good
right out. / was on very fast horse ana ron:
don't know exactly how ! sat on my horse
rends ea ne soldiers I'd n' TOOK pf1 ON me-
CoRREspoNDENT-Wnat do you want TO say
BIG RED FooDMif 1 am liberated from here
would IKE to go 10 farming and settle down
and live IN house. have my children 60 to school
J wish they would let me SO TO my camp. only
wRite people through tue HERALD. Give me
house to live in and = farm to raise corn and the
huet / would like TO have a house and a iarm to
rase corn when ! was going out to see that olg
Sady. ny wife has Been oe here once 10 see me-
tAt this point the savage face. heretofore
somewhat lighted up. now became clouded and
darKened In hue, as though shrOuded IN EenrN
thunder stormy I would ike to be liberated.
have ny irons taken Off and go to my people. One
was llberated ! would be willing to remain regu-
lary IN one place ana not move around: ! tatnk
could give up the chase and would not want to
60 OF TO the Plains again.
CoRREspoNDENr-Why then leave here at 1rst
BIG RED FooD lin a melancholy tone. staring
like . doomed man and gazing into the votd)-
pnsss =, were ere Two rsasons 0ps nsd NO iTaTo 1o
get robes and skins 10 mako she ter tor myself ana
family. Another-all the Comanches wanted to
we got there we found We were deceived and sur
rounded by that organisation to keep 10 there:
Asa-haDet was also there, and the Quahadas came
near killing MIN. lie Just escaped, that's all.
THE MEDICINE MAN.
CORRESPoNDENT-What do you think OF the med
icine man now ana MS medicine 7
BIG RED BE FooD .nongntuy IS ana s evaslvely,ol M Il
aad tell
would stay here oy the white people they would
ay ss1 IN s'S %
| bring punishment upon them. am hardly able
to Judge yet whether the medicine was real or
not II next sprlnx. when everything green
should start to grow and the leaves and grass are
green, II ALI these streams OF water dry up. then
really do not know. | heard tnai the medicine
man liked the white mems guns so they would
mulgated among a1l the Indians to get the nj TO
resort 70 open resistanGe;) J aid not hear tnat
was also another OF the medicine mans doc
trlnes.)
dian on his tneories)-Dld you not feel that the
dry weather. no water aud the great storms which
prevailed In this country last summer were pun
isnment to the lndlan ior has conduct to the gov
BIG RED rooD-I heard cur medicine was made
to dry up every hing-'hat It would prevent rHln,
ana that next season the dry weather and no grass
nor water would be great deal worse.
CORREsPONDENT-aavn's you found that the In.
dams on the Plains suffer more from that kind VI
medicine than the white man here or the good
Indians who nave stayed in at the agenclesg
DRIVEN INTO CORNER
BIC RED FOOD tsavaGely tigh eulng up his lips
@ d every " a ok SacS men
gesture, pose and expression tnat had world In
It, whether OF regret, compunctloa or being net.
tied your CORES pOudent could not tell; but all at
once, as he reasoned through his past answers and
TO the present issue, ne saw that he was oriven
naliy he said)-I don't know anything about 1t.
Have not seen any Que VINO has remained in hefe,
nor have heard whether they suf1cred or not.
CoRRksPcNDENT-What do you think they are
gong to 40 with YOU?
BIG RED FooD-t tHere bis face became all wobe-
gone ana assumed an air OF desolation and
despair which 1t was really pittul anu painful to
observe. so much IN contrast TO the broad laugh
respondent when ~ last he Was forced TO &C.
knowledge that ne was cornerec IN the lnterroga-
tories on the big medicine question, which he was
religiousIy bound to advocate and OF which he
always spoke most reverentially, though with HIS
natural gilt Of strong and precise thought, ne
saw finally he would be forced 10 sustain the
medicine theory or be placed In the RIDICULOUS po-
sltion OF advocating what ne now elt by contrast
on reflection would be ABSURD, according to mis-
own reasoning. ABOVE all other things an indian
VIII not do IS to appear absurd as II s contrary
to hts dignity and "dn,OHr prOpre.r He acEnowl.
edged by action, II not IN words, tnat he was
OrTwITrED IN THE QUESTIONING
and answering; out 10 his iuture, devoted almoot
Noses like TO his people, unselnshly and sefsacrt
ncinyly, he evidently weighed how badly on they
might be without. him, and was as distressed at
TINS thought one would suppose rs ne well could be.
The thick swelled veins OF his forehead, which up
to this coursed 10 the u at our late mcrrimens on
the theological controversy, subsidized like rip.
ping streanlet ucned with an lcing frost, and on
that broad walnut coiored forehead and quick tnrob
hlng temples chill mad been sent save and ex.