National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-23
DISTRICT INVESTIGATION
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door, ard never was on my door, but 1t was
yerr proper thing TO do, sir; very.
{. Well, who dis A. Just let me talk. l
want to say this, that where imputations are
thrown upon Us &c have a right 70 defend our
selves.
Q. Defend yourselves by eoncealing your
record or by exhibiting iti A. Not by conceal
ing anything; but If every man was allowed to
20 into that Office that chose to 60 there, there
would be no work done: and every Department
IN this city today has the same order; the clerks
are not ITO be allowed to show papers, &c, 70
people without the authority of the heads OF
the bureaus. The same order exists in all the
Departments of the CITY, anil It is a very proper
order 30 give; and Mr.. Cluss himself went 70
Mr.. Willard, have ascertained since was on
the stand before, 10 ask Mr.. Willard to give
such an order. He said that orders were given
20 do certain work; the first IL heard Of them
was on the street; before the clerks had time to
brief the papers and send them into the office,
the contractors came to him and wanted him
TO go to work; and that he went down and
asked Mr.. Willard to give that order. have
ascertained that since was here before. Mr..
Cluss told me that himself. Mr.. Wilson called
my attention and asked me if1 did not know
that such things had been done.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. ! ask you now If you do
not know that it was done?. A. do know it
now; did not know 1t at the time; but it was
q very proper order.
@. You stated under your oath, q moment
ago, that this book made every man a detec-
tive, and enabled every man to determine. A.
So II does.
Q. And you say that he cannot do 1t except
by looking through your youchersf A. or
course, If any man came there
Q. Is not that truel A. have had very
often-
Q. Hold on 6 minute; want the answer to
nv question. Is no; that true, that he could
not do 1t except by looking at your Vouchersf
Nn~k. N,1r- Ia rTTld lint
q. And vet If you would not allow him to
look at your vouchers; how could he be de-
tectiyei A. would allow him If he came to
my office and asked me to see them.
BY Mr.. Bass: Q. You swear that you paid
$4,000 on July Is to L. s Filberti A. do.
@. If Mr.. L. s. Filbert was sufficient Of de-
tective to seek to ascertain by the report Of the
Board of Public Works where you had entered
up that $50, 900, how would he 60 TO work to
find itI A. He would come right TO me and
ask me, and would show him the certificates.
Q. That would be poor place. Suppose he
looked at your report, how would he find lit
A. Would he not know that had paid him.
Q. Certainly; but the point is, where he
would find it entered in your published account
that you were SO careful to circulated A. He
would find 1t in here If he would go through
that account,
@. Wherei A. In this account
O. Whereabout, I ask you. II Filbert could
find it you certainly can. Will you have the
kindness TO put your finger upon single one
of the items constituting that $50,0ON A.
cannot do it here.
o. Then would YOU find fault If Filbert could
not DO iti A. No; but ifhe would come to the
office he could do It. ..s ~
Q. Well, then, Fflbert would not be very
good detectivei A. Yes, he would. The point
Is simply this, that there has been no attempt
to conceal anything, especially from the COM
mittee. Judge Wilson's imputstion is that we
okXn, Noo oaa1 rr-a
do not want to conceal anything, especially
from the committee.
By Mr.. Wilson: You say make an imputa-
ton against you. / make no imputation
against you. You came here at the outset of
this investigation saying you wanted to be
Q. And completely vindicatedi A. So we
Q. And we are trying to do Il. If you do not
give Us light II is not our fault. A. do not
know the fairness of the thing.
Mr.. Wilson. Well, / know something
about It.
By Mr. Bass: Q. If you bring those vouchers
they VIII probably throw light on the WY the
account is made up. A. I will give you those
vouchers that you are speaking of-you shall
have them. You said the other day that all
you wanted was for me to point out in this
book; pointed 1t out, and you shall have the
vouchers. will 90 and bring those vouchers
now. want to see If ] can find correspond
. ing amount Of certificates paid to Filbert; he
has been dealing with lot Of people and under
several contractors. For instance, he has had
this man Gregg; it may have been Gregg's GER
tifcates paid to Fnbert.
Q. One other thing before you leave the
stand. There was . question the other day
with regard to certificate of Mr.. Oertly for
Sl4S. geo, which seems TO have been referred to
the auditor by you, as infer by this con-
ttnual accumulation. That Is the one TO which
T. - 20 horyo al
through your hands, and never was audited by
the chief engineer A. / have done this in
several instances when have been there alone.
People would come in, after the thing had been
in a while, and want their measurement.
never ordered the auditor to issue certificate
without sending It into the engineers depart
ment for one Of the engineers. have sent for
Mr.. Barney and asked him: "Mr. Barney, do
you know anything about thisi Is 1t safei
want you to take this up and look over your
books, and come down and tell me Is It safe to
give that much money as Q partial measure
II he said no, / would refuse 70 do it; If he
said yes, l would DO it. D..
O. The point / want Is this: There was
some little question the other day in assuming
that this was either right or wrong as to which
member Of the Board Of Public Works was re-
spoDsible for the audit Of that particular &C
count, and II appears by these papers that 1t
was audited upon your own request, and that
II any member Of the board was responsible It
was yourself. A. Do you make that Coz j
am responsible for that. That Is pertial
payment. 80,
OF this would be that this application having
= been made to you, you called upon Mr.. oertlyl
A. No, sir called upon somebody; don't
know who.
Q. See If that letter will enable you TO say
who you called on2 referring to docu-
ment.l A. That was sent down TO me from
the engineers office. do not know who
called upon. called upon whoever the engt
neer was, or sent q note up. 90 q --0-
@. Who furnished you the information upon
which this thing was donel A. acted upon
that, suppose, Indicating Paper.l
O. Who did i'll A. I do not know.
O. Have you not the signature before your
facet A. Oh, Oertly did this, September l,
1915, -. -...a..-.
O. Please read that Endorsement of yours to
the reporter A. would Ike to put the whole
thing in evidence. It is as follows:
wAsHISGToS, August Is, 1873.
BonOra6k Board Of Public Works, Dtstrfe. Of Co.
GESTIKNEx: would respectfully request that
q measuremsnt be made Of the following work,
now being done BY me under your orders, viz:
Grading IN square No. NJ ..-. 49,.
street south, from Tenth to Thirteenth street
6 street south, from Thirteenth to fifteenth
Fourteenth street west, from B street north to
Tveiih street west, from street north to B
street south.
street.
Filling On Maryland sveuue west, from Thir.
teenth 70 Fourteenth street.
Grading Maryland avenue west from Thir-
teenth 10 Fourteenth street.
Rhode Island sYenue, between Fourteenth and
Sixteenth streets west. r
street suoth, between Seventh and Ninth
streets west. g.. III. g.. -....#.
street south, between Seventh and Ninth
street north, between Twelfth and Seven
teenth streets west,
would also request that an estimate be made
10 cover expenses Of work on Seventh street west,
between and q streets north, aTd F street
north, between Fifth and Ninth streets west.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
ALBEIT GLEASON.
Total amount Of work done BY Alfred Gleason,
esq, on following streets, via:
TWelfsh street southwest, from TO B.
viz: taxing up eobbie and old mate
nal sitting curb, and sewer "A IasI "a
y street southwest from Tenth to
ThiFtSsntA, grading and hauling TO -,
s street sOuthHsst, nom seventh to l''''S -
Ninth, grading and hAglng q canal I6lsl IS
Square IA grading and Insulting 70 q :
canal 100 %