National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-20

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,.betber this z. in auv sense Of The word. CEN
neteut. Is 1t Testimony to move anythlnef
TIA On airu.dn ao-rfA fhi.t n fr~
MrtRiIsorr. 4 d6r6at ~ ,,lr,t - I. e..lf had
the air q fuII Of this n,mor ahont 4 rinr that
exists here: and IN this D;strict royernnent
wants 10 Be thoronohlv y,ndicstsd: and the
public mind sat Al resf uron ara o,,estjon, 40
not see any Other wnT tran 10 and'out who are
the reputsd member Of tbs ring, and then
have them brought hare and let them say that
there h noth,ng m \.
Governor sSenherd, That A ri9ht: that a
vhatT want
Mp Ms1.troIv. Ther. a M oojec,ion 10 that,
but I obiset "a sff. Nickerxon beng allowed 70
st... th.t NJ Psga told him 40 and 20.
~, W,,son Csrtainly. this town n fun Of
.his ranors
n Estts,o,v- 1summou Hr. Pare hare, and
Lat him telFvhst he fnoas sbUut 4.
n wilson. n Won DO NOT want TO Be y,ndi-
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Goveroor shenherd. That A what we do want.
We ,,snf you - 20 through this thing. 10 no 70
the hottofn Of n.
M WIlson. n there a pothfnr b an this
tan. think u OUGHT % Be shown. Let these
rnmors he dl,peiied.
Ths WINES. n hs. been INV iudrmeu.
through the whole sfiair that there 4 pothine
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Mr.. wilsoh. n the Governor counsel doesn't
want this vindication, why very well.
Mr.. Nattingly. We want our vindication
10 be made IN proper manner. / very readily
see where thu ntrodncion ofahis class of testi.
mony win lead. If witnesses are TO be called
here, like Mr.. Nickerson, to say that tho air \
fu.l ofrumors, and that the ouiy way that they
could ret contract was through thai ring
The Witness. have not said that.
Mr.. Matttngly. That was the purport Of the
question.
Mr.. Wilson, Not at all.
Mr.. Msttingly. As to whether the air Is not
null Of rumors that the only way to obtain
contract Is through certain ring, and that thai
ring is TO be propitiatedi
MI. wilson: IL you are content 70 leave !nls
thing Just In the shape IT'S have no o9jecfon'
Mr.. Mattingly. have sufficient knowledge
OF human nature, and presume that you have,
Mr.. Wilson, to know this, that In any city
where extensive improvements are being made,
involving the giving out OF large contracts, that
the human mind being more prone to believe
evil than good, that men naturally suppose that
these things are conducted through ring: In
many places have no oouo; they are conduct
ed through ring, though oenysueh Is the
case here; put say THIS Is no way 70 prove u
Dy having witnesses wy 70 come nero ana glSe ,neI
no foundation in fact.
Mr.. Wilson. You mIsapprehend me. was
trying 10 get the, names Of those parties. AS
one OF the committee, my purpose was when
their names were sscertained, to bring them
here and have them say If there is anything in
i. II there is not anything In Il, this Board OF
ruonc works mas F1gnt 10 nave TINS COM
MUMMY kno" u
MI mattlngiy. we certainly expect 70 satisfy
the committee before we get through, and In 9
proper and legitimate way, that there is moth
Ing In these vague rumors.
Mr.. Wilson. lam sure DO not know whether
tnere Is anything In II or not.
The Chairman. As understand It, Mr.. Mat
tingly objected to the statement of Mr.. Page
being introduced by this witness. ] stated, Of
course, only as one Of the COMMITTEES, my view,
that did not think in was proper evidence. /
did not intend to speak for other gentlemen of
the committee, for had not consulted with
them. Mr.. Pare, as understand Il, IL an at
torney In this city, and presume he Is proper
witness to bring upon this point. therefore, /
do not think that It Is proper for &is witness
to repeat here what Mr.. Page said to him. &
Mr.. Merrick. I understand he q in the West
Indies at the present time. :
The Chairman. Then should say, for that
reason, l Should have more hesitation In having
introduced here what Mr., PAGE NAV have said
to this witness. -. -.
The Witness. choose not to speak OF what
Mr.. Page said.
Mr.. Wilson. Ny purpose, Mr.. Chairman. and
my question was put with . view of eettinr the
names Of the'parties that this gentleman had
understood belonged to this ring, so called.
The Chairman understand nerfactlv veil
the nurno.e of M wilson have nothing n
saw ss ~ thst nurnose ercent IN rsmsrt t5st
Am IN nerf-ct sccard With him dI obIec.
an NV own Account a. have seI 70 NJ
,ene.tiny vbat N, p.rs bsd .sd
~ him DO III tbint :, I. nro,,sr tsstirnony
n, this .oro 70 intr,,ce ,.bn;,
n n for thc nnrnosa ne-hsns ~ 1sEing stste-
=. ants ~ a. nav not y yrove5 shont sansian,an
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IT, Jvsns.. 49, airaa5r ..,5 a., NJ
ps,s Us VIZ rst,cnnt. snti-siy 80. O rnrnosaiv
a. n esvino names Ne toId me- he hsd srs,;-
ence. and fsrgn inauence
Rr the cbsSrman. . Whvdon,t vou answer
M, Wilson'S o;,cstionf
Mr. Wilson T care nothing fnrther shout 4.
The Chairman' / will repeat the onest,on,
The question a. N n "a not GENERALLY understood
NAT there "a a rino IN thIs citv that must he
before contracts can he awarded.
Now. n there e such 4 ring. name those who
COMPOSE II.
Tie Witness. 1 can saw that Il ia the general