, 1874-09-21

and planted cotton. 10 wns appointed to tho
poBtlon he now holds In 1867, md has hold It
unintorruptedlY since.
4 TRIBUNE reporter callod on him yesterday
afternoon, Ia ]oarn aomethfng Of
THE CONDITION or AFFAIRS IN ALABAMA,
and the conversation had with him IL sub1otued:
Reporter-1s 500 By d Washington dispatch that
You have boon ordered to roturn to Alabama In
consequence Of further troublo9
hrr. Hoaly-1 suppose tho ehante trouble NO had
before IL roforrcl to; but do not anticipate Any
furthor difficulties.
Roportor-Aro tho whites and blacks at nar7
Mr. Hoaly-Woll, tho trouble is be.woon tue
Democrats and Republicans.
THE FEELING.
Roporler--What seems to be tho feeling be-
tween tho Hhitos aud tho nogroos7
Mr.. Hoay--1t Is bitter OH tho part Of tho Den,-
ocrats toward negro Republicans, and 1t ariAes
out of the Civil Rights bill.
noporter-nhva many persona been kll1sd2
bfr. lI'aly-Yes. DilliuGs in sump.er County
thst affair, though. has been published tn tho
newspapers.
nororsor-Wero tho "murders" committed BY
"White Lengno,h" or E,i-liiux7
htr. HoalY-1 do not know that there Is n,, Or
ganized White League in Alabama; tlc.o aro no
ago. Tlle ttonblo in Alabama recently gee,nx to
be spontaneous.
CAUSE or TIE TuuDLE.
1leportcr-Do the Democrats ca1.He the tronb1o2
Mr.. Hcnly-They growf rrent aeal, md have
sprung the race lsauo on tim Republicans, Which
means II they arc succossful. t!Ie dihfranehise-
ment of the negroes. That il my view Of It..
Ronorter-Do any Of the whites voto tho Re-
pnblicnn tichot2
Mr. Healy-ics, nc have largo uhts Re.
pnbiscan vote; In somo portions Of tho Sato 1t ia
larger than tho negro vote. Two yoarH ago we
elected tue Governor by II, 000 majority, aid tho
Dcmocrats are now trying to overcome That by
prescription nild intimidation.
Roportcr--Do they Threaten shs blacks?
Afr. Healg-les
Reporter tl,cy makln. any converts7
AIr. Hca1y-1 think thny Aro n,no,,g tho whites
III Northern A'aba,an. They submit moro srom
intimidation ti,au from conviction.
Kepor sor-Aro these people throatenea witi,
Dlr. Hcay-f could not say They nre inttmi-
dated by prescription. People arc alviHed to
cut their acquaintance aud treat them with con-
tempt.
Reportor-Is thdre any complaint about OK
ceasive tnxation7s ~
A1r. Hoaly-Yes, On the part Of the Demo-
Reporter-Has'e tuxen been increased snce
the present State Government assumed control
Of afairs ?
Alr. noaly-yes; tho tux OIL real estate has
been Increased a qun1 tor of per cont.
1eportor-Wnat' vas tho object OF the in
croaHc2
Mr. Healy-Well, under tue Republican ad-
mnsirntion Of Gov. smith it 1863. the tax on
reat chsato vha til' ce-4uarterd Of l per cent.
That met all the running EXPENSES and paid tue
iDterest on tho old State bonds Issued boforo
against. Aig taxation" claiming TINT it nas
'srunning tilcm tuto tho ground" und it was
chiefly on, that fr.,und tint Gov. Smith was
dolcated II 1870, and Gov: Lindsay
candidate, and WHOM :iiey camo into power the the
snxes were reduced to onc.half Of per cent.
But they found that did not yield sufficient to
meet cxnelscs mud tho interest, and they had to
borrow largo sutn to nako up tho doticoncy.
In 1872 tho Democrats were defeated, and. when
continue borrowing money ana Increasing tho
Stale debt, tl1eY increased The percentage OF
taxation to what it WAS uador Gov. Smith.
Keportor-Wbnt is tho rate On pcrgonal prop
slr. Hcaly-About tho -three-quarters
Of por cent.
:, 1.eportor-tas the State paid interest Oh ill
its bonds :?
Mr.. Hca 1y-Yes; but not on the bonds Of
soma Of the railroads which it became security
for.
Reporter not
Mr. Heay-Thn railroads defau1ted, and they
are to be sold. Tho rattss is now in tic courts,
aud think the houd-holders will realize tho
AaN4-FhaAN ~ bAS
WHITES AND HLAoKs.
Reportor--How do tho whitos aud blacks gem
orally get along togetllor2
A1r. len1r-Ihoy have gotten along very we'll.
We have had very quiet time for two years, I'M
1leportor You say you anticipate no moro
trouble? The Attorney -Geuoral must have so,no
contrary information or he probably would nos
ordos you baok2
Mr. Hoaly-l do not think 1t is on account Of
t7aN h1,f{ {o to- .f%
couco,ned in tho late trouble in sluupter
Counsy.
1loporter--Do you anticipate
WAR OF RACES
in your state2
A1r. Heat.-No. nor In any other Southern
State. nnosB this revolution in Louisiana is suc-
ccsBf'l. II it IT, look for tho oyorturEing of
nll the Republican State Govornmonts in the
South Of any moment, The ditilcutli6a III Ala
hann. MsslAsippi, mud other Southern Statoa nre
occasloped by the fact tint tho Republican Slate
Governments have no support from my ono but
the negroes. mud their support il not Of much
account. Every Republican State Government
is in That i1S, for tho reason tlat the physical
f9rco is is IN the bands Of the other sdo hoy
physical force. Ws have Ind no political
troubles growing out Of class differences until
within tho last throo months.
ltoporter-NhAt gave rlse to those troubles?
Mr. Healr-TAey aro chiefly confined to
deBiro Of tho Democrats to intinidato tile ne
Eroos 10 that tloy uan carEy tho noxt election.
lvey, tho 1nai|-mebuongor who was kiiiod, was q
political loader among tho negroes. aad tho
Democrats doubtlogs thought by gatsing rid Of
him tho negro organizations would be broken
up, and tlley would not 20 To the polls. Tint
MRS the only object can aae in numbering him.
THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
RepoTter--1a tho 6tata Government Of Aln-
bama strong enough to suppress formidable
outbrohk-say ono similar to that in New Or
leanhi
Mr. Hoaly--I do not think it is land the Gov
ernor is Of tue same opinion}, for tho reason
that II 10 undertook to suppress any outbreaks.
hc would have to orgauizs = negro militia, and
TINT would be oppoaod by tho Democrats. Tile
negroes arc tho only class he could depend on.
lseportor--Do you include all the ,ao.nbots Of
tue party whem you say '!Domoarats ~
AEr. Healy-No. Tile better class Of Demo-
Gratis o not act that way; oniy those IN tic back
eo'.nt1es-:he ignorant class-eosner-gsoceIy
1oafors etc.
Nepoltor-Are there many Of thorn?
AIR. l1oalY-Yes, IN tho country toniIs.
heportor-No disturbances hare occurred in
l.: l:rgor towns?
NJ. :: ~a!v-No; tho rcopio thors arc quiet and
nosl-dispua<d.