The New York herald., 1874-07-27

for themselves-that the suggestion OF suca . the.
Ory IL altogether gr0undless.
General TracyIt Is not only groundless, but out
MI. Hill think you are unjust.
Mr.. TiitOn-I have been informed that this Is 4
matter OF life and DEATH
Mr. Canin-This committee could not afford
TO take that position Ii would not do to take
those letters fom you.
Mr. Titon-I am perfectly willing 10 bring sew
eral friends OF NINE and make an examination OF
these letters; you snail see them; but under pro-
per safeguards-that is all; II Mr.. Tracy were In
my position he would take the same ground
General Iracy-No ne would not, beg your
Q. At the beginning OF the acquaintance OF Mr..
wife, but with your amiIy-dd not YOU invite him him
frequently TO your hOuseY A. Yes, sir; and WAS
always very proud when he came.
Q Did you not say to him frequently that you de-
slred MN TO visit your house frequentlyY A. dId.
and always scolded him because he did not come
in oxford street. so Tar away that he very rarely
came tie frequency of his visits took place after
purchased The house in Livingston street.
q. when was thatY A. | nave forgotten the
year should say 1t was seven, or eight or nine.
@. DID not you say that there was little woman
at your house that loved him dearly? A. did
many time; l always wanted him to come
oltener.
q. You frequently spoke to him of the high
esteem and affection that your wife bore to him.
did you notS A. did he knew it ana Knew it.
q. You always knew it, A. cannot say that I
always did, because at first, during the early years
sighted nv family; he was Intimate with me. and
think loved me; but he did not use to come yery
often to my house, % ana 1t did not please me; I
Q. Aud it wounded you, did 1t notP A. cannot
say that was wounded was mere boy; it was
a matter OF pride to have him there; Elizabeth at
first was modest and frightened; she did not
know how to talk with him, or how to entertain
tanned her confidence so that she could tax with
him; 1t was the same with MI. Greeley; he had
opinion Of her, do not think there " was woman
that he had higher regard for than for Mrs.
@. And did not she have high regard for him
also? A. Yes.
Q. And that was known to you tooa A. That
was known TO me. and was very glad OF it.
q. Mr. Greeley came to your house often A.
He used to come and stay sometimes in the sum-
mer week or two at q time we kept bachelors
hall: yes, ne came often; it was always white
day when Mr. Greeley came; he used to say that
he never would come In my absence: he said it
was NOT a good habit.
q. Did you urge him to come when you were or
necessity and desire chat you had that he would
cali upon your family and see your vile frequently
during your absence? A. did.
q Now Mr.. Titon you have stated the religious
character OF your wife; Will you describe it again?
pardon the alluson, undertaken set forth in the
book that | have spent a year N writing-a
work OF fiction called Tempest Tossed"-a name
strangely borrowed from my own heavng breast;
in That novel Is character Mary Vail | do not
want to say vainly before the public that drew
that character for Elizabeth but aid; there is a
cnapter-the NINTH l think Il WON'T he certain
about the numDerl-whch is called "Mary Wallis
it up from Elizabeth's letters, and my heart
cleft in twain to find in these letters some OF
the same sentences that crept into this chapter;
changed them considerably, to make them con lorm
to the story; had this feeling, that IN this novel
l could, as mere subordinate part OF the story,
paint tnat character, and have IL go quietly in an
underhanded way forth, that that was Elizabeth
(ior think drew it faithfully 1t wouldlDe very
dals In the community, and that people would say,
Theodore respects his wife," as do to-day.
If wS IL was not as we'll e he orpna
would warrant,
@ You say It was not drawn as wei as the
original would warrant: then her devotion and
n' nthan you have given MARY Vaii' in that books
A. Yes, unless you attach technical meaning to
the word purity; sne was made victim.
O. You say that that character in that book falls
below the orginalY A. Yes. because | did not
make it prominent but subordinate character.
O. Are there any other persons that figure in
this drama who are described in that BOOK, ITEM
pest Tosseds" A. No. except by mere suggestions.
O. Is not your true friend described there?
Mr.. Titon-You mean Mr.. Moultons
General 1racy-Yes. A. NO; OF the characters
in Tempest Tossed" Mary Vail is the ONLY one
that is true to hie; the character OF the colored
woman 9a.. was partly suggested by colored woman
q. You have brought forward the letter of your
vile where she describes herself as having re-
cei|ed new light as having read the Character or
Catherine Gaunt IN Griffith Gaunt;" have yOn
read The character OF Catherine GauntY A. Yes
terday SAID no, but have an impression that
have; friend of mine Yesterday morning said
5eat IT, is singular angular Pe result IRON rtH he Terrible
called ''The Terrible Temptation have never
read that book but second thought think
have read Griffith Gaunt;' my impression Is that
read 1t on journey. and that wrote something
to EliZabetn about 1t and asked her TO read IL.
q. Did you think that the guilt OF Catherine
Gaunti was that OF adultery? A. l have no idea
that did.
O. Has there been change in your religious
views since you were married. A. Yes sir, very
decided, am happy to say; think there is IN
every sensible mdns
In In Vnn
religious convictions was source OF great grief
and sorrow to your vile I? A. II was u great
source OF tears and anguish to her; she said TO me
once that denying the divinity OF Christ in her
view nuiIied our marriage almost; and l think
next to the sorrow OF this scandal 1t has caused
that woman TO sorrow more than any thing else
sne has suffered: because cannot look upon the
Lord Jesus Christ as the Lord God: think her
breast has been wrenched with it; she is al.
most an enthusiast on the subject of the divinity
Q. You think her a CHRISTIAN, DO your A. Yes;
she Is the best Christian know OF, barring her
faults; better than any minister.
Z. Well on the whole, do you not think that she
is about as white as most Christians A. Yes,
winter than ourselves.
Q. Then you would not quafv the expression
when you say that she is the best Christian you
know barring her faults DO not you think that
she is the best Cnrstian you know with her Iauitsf
A. No. would not say that, because there has
been strong deceit wrought out IN Elizabeth
that from the weakness OF her character;
she has had three strong persons 10 circulate
among-Mr. Beecher, her mother and me; in SEN
tment she outdoes us all her life is shipwrecked,
nut size is uOt tO Wul Waluldln LHab 10 my
dying day.
q. Do not you know that in these cxigencies she
sought consolation rom her pastor A. / think
she aid and he TOOK advantage OF her orthodox
views TO make them the net and the mesh in
which he ensnared her. and for which l hold him
In contempt which no English words can de-
scribe.
O. The change of your religious views has been
the subject OF great deal OF conversation and
anguish and labor on her part, has ii not A. On,
ycs-of letters and prayers and tears and EN-
treaties, many time and Olt
q, When you say that this has been the thing
which has enabled her to be ensnared, do You
mean by that that you think that the cause
why some degree, her confidence In the
judgment and advice OF her pastor was Increased,
and wny your influence over her was lessened
a. Oh yes; largely SO: thoroughly so.
q. Then wnen you found That she was leaning
more strongly than formerly the advice ana
consolation OF her pastor, and less on your own,
you attributed II naturally TO your change in re-
liglous sentiments y. Yes at the time
dld not want Elizabeth to mold my view; said
Llf shn mir hon Eni ino q Ml,I1 noIn