, 1874-03-14
a Series Of Interviews on That
Subject.
Tho Difficulty Of Getting Information
from Small Dealers.
They State Their Fears Of Being
Crushed Out.
Pretty General Agreement as to Where
the Trouble Lies;
Ut
Tho Large Packers Arc Trying
to DO Too Much.
And Send OFF Their Meats Before They
Are Properly Sailed.
Tho Inspectors Honest, but the System Of
Packing AL Wrong.
Tho Large Packers Arc Trying
to Do Too Much.
And Send Off Their Meats Before They
Are Properly Sailed.
Tho Inspectors Honest, but the System Of
Packing AL Wrong.
More Instances Of Tainted Meats.


It was an undertaking which yielded ltt1o infor-
nation. Many Of tho mon questioned wero
apparently afraid to talk above d whisper, and
only in PLACES whcro they would not 10 conspic-
nous, md tho brokers conyorsed with oxactcd
again and agnin tic promise that their names
should not be mentioned.
AonooEn's EXPERIENCE.
Tic reporter first called on q grocer, who
doals extensively in lamH. I1o said ho had not
bought any hams this season that proved to bo
tainted, but no Ind Inst, md suit was now
pontling agai1lst tho scloss for damages. All
other firm had silllilur suit against tho
sanle parties, nntt his ow1, cnBe would DO
tried within wcek. So far aa. his experience
went, tho I,resoslt system Of inspection was n
fraud. Flo. howeTor, did not wish his views to
DO made public now. foaring that llo might sAy
something which would prejudice tho caso be-
foro tho courts. When 1t had boon decided, no
would exprcss his opinions freely ln cOmmuni-
cation to TUE Tn'l,uSE.
TO hERr WARREN.
Half an hour later tho reporter was eroulat-
ns un,ollg the n,n titndo Oh Change, hunting
mot, and, in roply to question, said ho had
bought mcats thus beason, bnt, rs they ha1 been
shipped to Liverpool, he was as yot uniuforlned
III to their condition.
STUNNING PUBLICITY.
4 friend introduced tho reporter at this mo.
nent to provision broker, who sad ho had
shipped tirco cnr-loads OF shoulders to st.
Louis which had L'onn reported as taintod.
12oportor--Fron whom did you buy them?
nlr. II will not Tell yon. nm willing to
60 before committee and give nv testimony,
Int do not wish to make tho matter public, be-
rauso It will hurt tho trndo.,
Tic reporter asked the broker for his name,
but ho declined to gvo it.
RUNNING HIM OFF.
Observing ]. =. Lycm coming toward him
TnE TRIBUNE representative was about adlress:
ing him, when "tho sorl of tho old man " linked
Z. arms with Ills fntLor and led hin away. Tho
son know tho intontion Of the reporter, mud owl
lcntly did not wish his fathor to bo intor-
viewed :.
AFRAID OF TIE CLIQUE. !,
Another broker was introduced to tue reporter,
md ho also requeHted that his nnn,e bo not pub
lished, "for," said lie, "if tho cli1ue know
told YOU anything they would crush ine The
TACT is, tho alarhet IL controlled by q ring,
headcd by D. P. IIutohinAol,, and ho has 10
much capital that tho little fellows cannot moyo.
lie o,n kill uil all ii llo wnnts to- hnd wo dare
aot nay q wcf1 against them, or thoy would
Tlia iii b. broker mentioned a shipment of cur
load OF shoulders to Tore 1lauto, Ind, quo Of
Flich turned out to DO tniutod though inspected
aoro as souutl.
Tho broker WHO Ind shipped to st. Louis hero
Interrupted l,y remarkng: ''That is the great
!nuI.-ncompetcnt inspection. I sent for the
Inspector to look ut my lot, but he could not 60,
md sone his Daputy, who did not know Ills busl-
aeBs. II had known the Inspector did not ill.,
,pect the lot, should not hayo shipped it,
nuBY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Tho reporter was directed to talk to H. @. Ran-
uey, and went in search of him. Ha ran across
aiin, but MIR. nannoy, whether designodly Or not,
it III impossible to say, got out Of the way ~
quickly as possible.
Realizing that it was hopeless to try to gotany
Information, tho reporter WAS about to leave tho
~, tknr utxf Gtf1
BY wavo Of the right hand,. told to get into u
:orl,er IIe did no., and was approached by one
II the brokers referred to above, and another
gentleman, who Was introduced as in tho salno
inc.
Tho frat was very uorvo1s, aud hoped his
aame would not ho given. Whom assured TINT
1iB confidence wnH encred, ha went OIL to state
hat tho great difficulty III Chicago WIZ the COIL
:ont,ation of the pork-packing line in fow
aau1H.
=. TIE nUsIeEfIs WAS TOO LAnoE FOR THEM,
md 1!:.fa>,ugnt to be ut lcast twonty moro pack
M hUs1ses to- socl1ro absolutely pure meat:
;o00 hogs day. aud, although, ho
% DO tho largest packer in tho world,
md would Go anything to secure that dlstlio-
ion. Tho temperature III the honsos was about
10 degrees before work commenced; aud the
,scapo OF aninlal heat from the bodies OF large
,u11,bcr If slaughtered hogs raiBod it to GO do
hgrecs, Which was too high for tue tlosl Be-
idcs. insteud Of allowing the shoulders ant
lnr,s t., lie gu tho floor lor twenty-four hour
o permit all tho hcat to escape, they were
,ackAa within q very short tiu1e and noccssn-
lily 40, us room WIS needed for the hogs Hlaugh
iered next day. lleneo lcat remained Ill tux
aaeut mud It would tnko but Ittle suit, aud tilt
result WAB, it bccamo tuntcd and Bour.
UNWILLING TO he BEEN.
Tho brokers here remarked that tho men il
tlo provision corner -wcro liable to look "1,tl
way" aud it would not do for him and tho ot'lel
fvip n
lis leurA about baing crushed, aud went o.
to say TINT Hntqhilson Ind no mich capital tina
lo could mako such q market III suited him
All hc had to lo was to work throug Ii hi
broker, CounKuln,au, and prices would 70 up 0
down ua llo lle said. Tho truth waa, it ,ias nl
mont llsa!esB for man who bud not $10U ,OU0 0
P20o, ,000 to try to DO anything.
Tho Gthcr broker did not think there waa M
collusion between tho Fuckers and Iut .poctort
atsrbuting t!io xltereo Ut sour meutH tt, tho fa1
tndk1llo packers did too mucl. business in lin
ito'4 time. Hutchinson probably dlu not kno
tbut my Of the meats wore tainted, overookin
everything to become tho largest packer iu til
world.
NO NAMES, pLEAsE.
Tho reporter tIel4 leH 'Cllallgr, md while 6,
lug dowl-sisir5, heard sone % QUO behind Linn q q
two brokers last mentioned, who again ro4uestt
lin not to gvo their l.a1noA III tLa,y would
ruined II ho did, Thoy ropoatcl " Int they III
said before about the clique, adding aga
tlIat monopoly waB tho cause Ut tue trouble.
A. II. UuYEY.
The roporter, still IN search Of informatlo
called in ut tho oifico Of a. II. Huvoy y Os
HUM No. q Chumbor Of Commerce, mud in r
ply to hA questions, vas furnished With tho fc
lowing statement:
Cn1oAuo, March H. 1874.
70 The Editor OF 1'hs Chicagp Tribune; >.
Sin: In anawor to your various question
about sour maats, wo will anY tint "o do II
think 1t advisable to mako r deilnalo htatumn
as TO amounts, natnes OF packers, 1s>epoctcr
etc., for tho teas9n that wo t4Ink tho fault III
With tho systcm aud not tho mon. We bolio1
tho Chicago lroNHion Inspectors honest, sa
that they yto ltys up to tho rules Ut the t3oA
Of Trade, We alBo believe that the Ohcs.t
packers will, compare fayorab'y for htmorab
lealinga With any claas OF doalotH In tlt, or Al
other ptty..
f1uI na1Yiclpn Ii thht lin auat On, nf I'm .lo n