, 1874-09-08
THE BAPTlSTS.
Monthly Meeting of Tho Minister'S As
S0Ciati0n.
Discussion Of the Question, Who
May Dopose Minister7
The unlon---Aid for Churches,

Tho rogular monthly mootIun Of lilo llantlat
blinistossi Asanc,,t,or ~ C,,,osn, and v,c,r,tv
wna l,oI, rosta~,,s., eo 80 H.. a... r,
w..,aI. Io0.ola"s 'noin",6 ~ 1no too"'' ~
prosont The Ilov. Dr.. r. II. Goodspccd waB In
t1io chair, aud A!ox, Blackburn, secrotary.
nrponra
tro,,, t,,o s.o... ~. n.1. t"1e ,o ,,,., ,,,,,o,,
'oa tno alhcrent pastors "cro noaro, wh'cu
wcro OF tho most satisfactory character, showing
IN addition Of thirty-fonr to tho membership of
tho church duriuo tho month of August. pr.
nran1v rr..tttort ~ co,rootoxr co1inoo Eou.
tnn1,,. 49,, a." d.. IT.. ns,,;asn % ~ Mev ynr,
suvn @na 1e i'sY al looi''noa y. t'o" ho'"
Tie I,ov. Dr.. Whitehead, ot tho Nort!, Star
Baptist Church. moved that hereafter reporters
ho 1oqt1ostcd to abaont thcmHolyes from thu
meetings Of tho Association. Tho motion was
loat bY a standing vote,
THE nEy, 4. l.. YAH.
delivered tho up,,nl skeleton sermon, from He-
brows Kill, i. Thu "akoloton was highly con,-
lnonded BIZ the clergy proHent.
Dr. Nortllrup of tlo baptist Tl1oological Som
inary, roportod that ho Lad received thirty new
laatic term, and that the future of tho inBtitu-
ton noycr looked brighter.
THE APPOINTED p1aCusstoN
upon tho question, "Ig 1t tho Church or tho
Council t!sat ordains anl doposea ,ninIstora?"
WnH then takon UP, tho 1sov. a. ]. Frost speak
ing III bsllalf Of tho Council, and DR.. ". ".
EYorts iu lohalf Of tho Church.
p,s. rnosr
epole substantially aa follows: Ho said thor
deposition. Ono claas maintain thst both those @
acts resils ip single person. viz; tho Bishop Of
q diocese, Another ciass arc tho Independents,
who hold that tho power OF ordaining and depos.
ing 10 vested In tho church. IIo baleycd tint
netl,or tho church NOR tho bishop, bnt the
preBbytory or CDunoil was inpci ted with
authority to ordain and dopose. Ho subssantiatod
his position by fonr arguments, drawn from
ordination performed bv tho prcabytory, Or by
mon In sacred oflloo. The church choHo, but
tho ordaining VIVA by tho laying on Of ha1ltls by
tho Apoatlou. Sail aud Darnnhas ordained
E1dcra for tito churches; tho cElurchoB did not
suucs to orJain man alone, ventures to do
what tho great ApoBtl8 would not perform.
History shows TINT ordination IL tho work of a
Council Of Eldors. Tho testimony of tho Apos-
Fathers, is iii on ills sido Of tho question. 4
whole volume might bo drawn from tho }snslfol,
Church alone to show that ordination was rcste;l
in the Council iaoue. IIoro tic speaker miro
duced long list Of authoritics showing preco-
donts.
Civil lau DECLARES TINT rna,i 1nay enjoy ait tho
rights possible. provided ho does not infringe
upon tic rights Of otllora Wo glory in our
liberty but liberty is not tho right to do any,
thing that is wrong, There ,uay bo church in-
dependence. but there is no alo thing as moral
Independence. Our olt1rc,cs arc Independent
OF each other locally, but tlopoudent upon cocl,
othor for mut1,nl protection. II church In
ortlaiuing minister does not respect tho other
ellutches, it loses their association md follow
ship. IL in said, II church. nrdnlns rastor for
itself it ia valid ordination, but I very
much question tho validity OF that or
aination which tramplcs OH dirino
authority. Gun baptist church
erlain i9r it's pastor ni,'ia.sE wl,o lad baSn
Daptist Church is cass tliutmct, and as such il
hold in largo degrco responsible for tho
character Of it. memborB II one OF that class
is honorcd, nil aro honorcd; il ono is lisgrncol,
all OF tho class huifor with 1t. Ind slnil not
Tho Church decides who shall belong to tho
Chutoh, and Bhnll not tie preHbytorv say who
ahall bolong to it THO question ariscs: Is
tho ministry np office, or Is If mott II it is not,
then all are minister's 1t it is then only those
arc such who aro sot apart to 1t. Tho worry fact
that church Inns appointed man to olllco
ehowa that to him certain powers Are delo-
gated. I do not hold TINT o council
has independent and undcsorycd power. r.-lcgis-
latiyo, executive or Judicial. Dut when such
powers arc delegated to it by tho churches. it
has tito right to uye them, If q man is ordained
by and for n church l.o would have to DO roor-
daincd for my other church. I1ls authority To
preaeh coineg from God Aia right TO preach i'll
n church coneu from that church j; his right. to
comes from tho denomination aB represented
in tho Council of its elders. The church may
choose man for ordination, and tho council
may rofuso to orlnin. Tho appointment Of
church is OF no avail without tho sanction Of tho
council. Tho church authorizes tic Council
the Council authorizes tho candidate.
Those who advocate that churches should Of