The New York herald., 1874-08-25
war OF THE RACES.
Views of Ex-Governor Vance,
Of North Carolina.
GRANT INCITES THE BLACKS,
What the Southern Whites VIII
Do with the Negroes.

What the Southern Whites Will
" Do with the Negroes.
y A representative OF the HERALD yesterday called
on Ex-Governor Lebuon B. Vance, Of North Car.
Olina, at the Brevoort House. After the usual
friendly salutattons the conversation that ensued
on the political situation Of the South and the
recent State election In North Carolina. The ex.
Governor seemed highly elated over the complete
political revolution In favor of the democracy IN
his own state, and looked upon
,- THE RECENT VICTORY
a. an indication OF what the result of the Presi-
dental contest would be in 1875.
'The result Of the recent election in our State"
SAID the Ex-Governor, 'was attributable to more
than one cause. The corruption OF State and
federal. onice-holders and the civil rights ques-
sion, however, were the causes OF the defeat Of
the radicals. Why, heretofore we could notget
dozen negroes in the state to vote for our candi.
dates. At this election hundreds Of them voted
the conservative ticket. Our boys marched them
by dozens to the polls.n
The HERALD representative desired TO know
what inducements had been held out to the COL
ored people that they should desert their party at
this late day.
Ex-Governor Vance replied that the republicans
In North Carolina divided on the Civil Rights
bill Many who professed to be in favor OF it
secretly opposed 1t, and even some OF the
VIZ .ar LEADING NEGRO POLITICIANS r
announced themselves as against the measure.
This policy disguised the darKies, and as they
knew full well theylcould not all get elected to
ONCE, and were dependent for Q living upon the
conservatives or democrats Of the State-who are
the property holders-hundreds OF them were wise
enough to consult their interests and vote for
their old masters.
HERALD REPoRTER-What do you think of tho
coming Presidential contest, GovernorP
Ex-Governor vANCE-Wel, to tell the truth, l
would not have given the subject as much atten.
tton as have, at this early day, but for the dis
cussions on the third term which have In the
newspapers But among us down South the idea
OF Grant being the democratic nominee for the
third term is considered simply ridiculous.
HERALD REPoRrER-Did you read Grants advice
to Judge Mackey, Of South CaronaH
Ex-Governor vANoB-Yes. But 1t was all said
for effect. 1t is impossible to make the Southern
people believe that Grant Is not himself corrupt.
Why, II he was only sincere in his professions he
would recall the military from south Carolina, and
II he had done that guarantee the white people
would carry the State at the coming election and
drive Moses and his corrupt venal set vi followers
out oil the State. ls. .sia
HERALD RsPoRrER--But would not the Presi.
dent, In recalling the troops from south Carolina,
precipitate war OF racesY . i s pnvci
Ex-Governor VANCE-We do not apprehend any
thing OF the kind There might be il .DIJW
FIGHT AND KNOCK DOWN Oh SO, ~
nut the 1ssT white people would ges their and
Wherever the whites are in the majority in the
South we hear OF no trouble between the races.
but where they are in the minority 1t Will always
be different. South Carolina Is now and has long
been ruled by q perfect despottsm. Ny State Is q
paradise compared to II, and God knows we have
enough thieves and sconndrels In North Carolina
to 6lf several penltentares. lt Is needless to tell
you that Q large number Of thts class are Grants
HERALD REPoRrER-Havs the Southern people
any particular candidate In view Tor the Presi-
dency-I mean the democrats?
Ex-Governor vANCE-WeI, they have given the
matter some attention, OF course. had talk
he 9s o. ise the
man. think Hendricks rs itf
HERALD REPoRTER--Will the Southern people
your party mean, OF fcOurse-nomtnate southern
man for Vice President M
Ex-Governor vAHoE-No am sure not. The
ern map for federal once who ever participated
in the rebellion. OF this am confident.
HERALD REPoRrsR-Do you think Governor Hen
drick5 will be n0mInatedf
Ex Governor VANCE-Of course cannot say.
The choice will. be between htm and Thurman.
either though, believe, better pleased with
Hendricks. lie suits me exactly.
q strong State rights man, Governor. Why then,
do you think Grant should interfere with South
Carolina. even in her present condition
Ex-Governor VANCE-Because she Is rotten to
the core and the corrupt set that now con-
troll her were fastened upon us by Grants admin
istration. We do not ask any interference on the
part of the government in our affairs, but to give
us our rights. Grant has placed his troops in
South Coroiina to overawe tine Whites: we simply
will elect an honest Legislature which Will relieve
the state at once OF corrupt administration and
TER WHITES HIVE STOOD THIS THING TOO LONG
ALREADY. -u.
Grant cannot be other than in full sympathy with
the present radical government In that state, or
he would have done something Tor the relief OF the
asRXL5 REroRrEn-You think the demo-
Gratis would carry South Carolina then, II the led
eral troops were removedg Are not the negro
voters largely In the majority
Ex-Governor vANcE-The negroes are In the
majority there we Wen know know out an t6e % negroes
In answer to further questions the Ex-Governor
said with the exception OF South Carolina and
Mississippi. which were controlled 0y carpet.bag
and negro administrations the Northern states
BEGINNING TO RECOVER THEMSELVES
quite rapidly. In North Carolina especially there
is plenty. All we need is capital and labor. We
have not enough OF either Laborers command
good wages, and hundreds OF the negroes rom
South Carolina have come into our State and have
no dlficulty in finding employment. why TO give
US Would Si instance stan e Charlotte. my home town Of
about II O00' populatl0n-we have SIX banks there
and in them over $500 Oo0 depos,.ed nar oy e tne
which the banks are paying out six per cent inter-
est This is more money than the farmers around
Charlotte have ever had before"
Here the interview terminated. The ex-Gover-
NOR is now on his way back TO his native state
where he Is at present engaged In the practice or
the law. he admitted to the HERALD representa-
tive during the in interview, that 1t was quite prob
able ne would be the democratic candidate for
Governor OF North Carolina within another two
years.
The Conflict Breaks Out In Choctaw
County, Alabama-A Negro Conspiracy
Revealed and Frustrated-Bloodshed
Saved.
MONTGOMERY, August "a, 1874.
Troubles are reported between the whites and
the blacks in Choctaw county. The whites were
informed that the blacks intended to attack them
unawaras and 1athered in force to repel them.