National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-29
Refer 70 W. h. Upson, N. c,
doll9rS worth.
Reed D. Of +. w., Feb'y ], 1872.

Can furnish ct this List from fftyto one hundred
thousand dollars worth.
Reed B. Of y. W., Feb'y ], 1871
TESTIMONY OF JOHN L. KIDwELL.
John L. Kidwcll sworn and examined.
= By Mr.. Msttingly: Q. It is alleged that In
ADJUST, 1871, you entered into q conspiracy
~ %Icsns Kelly, Lewis Clephsne, John o.
Evans and orhers, for tue pI,,1 :, S S.-.-'ng
contracts from the Board Of Public Works.
NO no eeS1sptTaey at that date, Or any other
date, IN retsrepes 70 any contracts with the
Board Of Public Works.
Q. Had you any knowledge of such con-
spifacy being In existencei A. had not.
O. Were YOU interested with these gentle
men in any contracts with the boardl A.
Which gentlemen do you meant
O. Moses Kelly, John o. Evans and Lewis
Clephane A. Neither Of them. had no in
terest in any contract.
BY Mr.. Hubbell: @. The names are John o.
Evans, Hallett Kflbourn, William 8. Hunting
ton, Moses Kelly, Lewis Clcphane, Samuel P.
Brown, Henry D. Cooke and Lewis s. Filberti
A. had not, sir.
By Mr. Christy: Q. State what interest you
took in securing what was known as tie Mace
patent for concrete pavements In this District,
or the Scharf patent pavement. State what
connection you had with any negotiation be-
tween John o. Evans and Mr.. Mace, Of Mont
gomery county, Maryland, in regard TO his In
terest in the seharf patent concrete pavement.
Give Us the history of thatl A. At my in
stance Mr.. Mace, Of Montgomery county, Nd,
purchased o two third interest in what he
termed the original scharf pavement, from
parties who held IT in Baltimore. And after
making the purchase he called upon me and
said: "Now, you have some scquaintances in
Washington, and you have advised me to make
this purchase; ! would be glad If you could
grant me an interview with the parties who
propose to lay these concrete pavenents, by
which can induce them TO use It on royalty
Well, told him that was very anxious to
see that pavement. i was the same pavement
that was laid IN front Of the Arlington. told
him was very anxious 70 see that pavement
laid, IL it could be laid, and If It could be laid
was satisfied It would give satisfaction TO every
one. / arranged an interview between Mr..
Evans and Mr.. Klbourn and Mr.. Mace. That
interview was at my store. Mr.. Evans or Mr..
Kilbourn, one or the other, produced o con-
tract, and It was signed by Mr.. Mace In my
presence. / was called out into my store. It
was ct my drug store.
By the Chairman Q. Did you have any Pc
cuniary interest In thisl A. None at all.
Mr.. Christy. etin want to show his knowl-
edge of this matter, which deem Of impor-
lance, and for this reason: that Mr.. Mace by
this arrangement was not one Of the compel
ing bidders at the lettings Of September /, 1s71.
The Witness. simply acted as n1end OF
Mr.. Mace in the matter, In introducing him to
these gentlemen, with view Of having him
after, under my advice, buying It, make some
money out Of it in the way Of royalties.
By Mr.. Hubbell Q. At whose request did
you acti A. At the request Of Mr.. Mace.
By Mr.. Christy Q. You say that negotia-
tons proceeded until Mr.. Mace signed q con-
strncti A. Yes, sir; at that time was called
ont Of my store. WhenI returned presumed
that both had signed the contract, and ] wss
asked 70 witness It. witnessed Mr.. Maee's
signature. think Mr.. Mace, or perhaps Mr..
KhbouTn, asked ne to keep the paper