, 1874-02-25

hlonuhY cFcHlhE IoF tHo ptAIpoao VI euIlaiucIHls
tAe pastoral relations Of the Rev. AIr. MCCARTHY,
haying como to oil abrupt mud unsatisfactory
ontl1ng, offorts woro made yeBtorday to learn
what tho principal actors thought about 1t.
THE DIAGONAL SIDE.
A reporter called OIL Mr.. F. J. Nood, Secretary
OF the Board Of Doaoons, yesterday afternoon to
learn what lo lad to any. Said tho reporter /:
t'Alr. Nccd, tho DoaconH soem to hive boon
beaten last night"
a1r, Rool-It would Aocm 40 ut first view but
wo have our way married. out, mud know what We
arc going to do.
THE rLAH OF ACTION.
Roportor-What course 10 you purpose
taking7
h1r. R.-Wo shall cali council Of pastors aud
nomo Of tho lay-,nembors Of tho different Dap-
tist churches.
N.-What will they do?
Alr. R.-Thoy will hear tho charges against
Mr.. Mccarthy, and Givo us their advice. Their
decision, am informed, will bo sustained III the
courts 30 Ne cnll 70 OIL and CLOSE tho church,
and no ono cnn opon it; that IL, II tho oounc,
sustain tho position whicl, tho Board Of DeaounB
haA takon.
THE o1lAnaEs.
n-What aro tho charges against Air. Mc"
51r. RI do not wish thom to be made public.
Ae-
Mr.. 1s.-Wel, It is hardly proper for us to lay
them before the people before tic trinl. We aro
not anxious 10 hayo them given, as wo want to
keep tho controversy among ourselves to nvoid
reflections upon nuy onc.
K.-Toll mo tho nnturu Of the charges then. I
do not desire you to 10 specific,
Alr. RI shall Aavo to decline. Some Of the
charges Woro stated III general wny at tho
meeting last [alondayJ night. hut there woro, Of
coarHc, Bomo thugs winch were not mentioned.
R.-When will this council YOU speak Of bo
ealled together
R.-Wiil tito sessions bo Becrot2
hIr. RI think 80.
ncAnT11y'a FRIENDS.
.R.-Yon heard wl4at Alr. AcUartlly's friontls
intend loiug? Thoy appear to bo very jubiIant
over tho result OF tho yuto on tile resolution TO-
questing him to rcsign.
Mr. R-1t IL quito possible TINT thoy will do
something to got out of tho trouble.
k-What do you fupan.
A1r. RI don't know tint they can do much !;
they arc 80 deep in the miro bit nm told tlat
one Of his friends is trying to got Mr. MCCARTHY
R.-Do you think lis friends wish to avoid
trial?
Mr.. RI do not SEQ how thoy Gun avoid hay
Ing trial. They have boen clan,oring for Que
I'll tho time, and so has he. Last night, after
tile vote Oh the pastoral relations was lost, we
Expressed dosire to call council and iayo
trial, but hi5 friends headed us off, and said
they did not want it, mud introduced au amend-
meut TO resolution appointing a committee to
report OH the 81 Of juno next. That was clear
evidence, to my mind, TINT thoy do not want o
WHAT THEY WANT.
R.-What DO they wunt, tleu?
Mr. h.~-They want him restored, 90 that no
can resign aud leave honorably. II ho hpp!ies
for letter Of disn,ssion We lave eithor not to
give it to him, or refuse, and state why we do no
ft,n nt.n {r;n .S,rAE Eor ~
tiiB trouble comnlpncel between Mr. MCCARTHY
and aertain members Of the congregation, tho
Deucona tried to adjust it, but wero headed or !:
o1rorts being made to oloar him aud sacrifice his
opponents.
R-How do you account for tho reoult OF the
voto on the resolutions requesting him to re-
sigu7
Mr. RI was aomewhat disappointed at 1t. I
Imagined TINT ho could raise about thlrty-tiye
friends, aud nude no efforts mysoIf to canvass
tho tiold having. in fact, no time il had want
I'D to do it,. Ny recollection IS that l only went
to the family Of one menabor to influence them
to vote for tho resolutions. I called on them
and hid the facts before them, and porhaps i'll
duenced then to vote. Mr. Mccarthy aud hiH
frends were IL the fold for several nyB ut leaat
SAY him AWAY out OH the West Slde aud came
TO tue conclusion that he WAS visiting hero and
there, and heard Of his oalng at different
placos thinls all bis friends woro tlrummed
up, and that he cannot gather any more than
were Ut the mooting last night, unless lle gets
BONE from among those ho baptized rocontly.
n.-He had enough to tie tho voto, and defeat
the reHoutious?
Mr. R-Ycs; but YOU must understand the
constitution tied III up. There were members
Of tho church who wanted to vote, o,-mombers
who wore dissatisfied With Dlr. McCarthys
prcachng-but they could not, as they lad not
bocn to church lately.
DISQUALIFIED.
Riff thoy aro members Of tho church, what
prevented them from voting2
Mr. H.-They had not attended church four
timaB in ench month for threo 1nonttls previous
to the ono III WHICH tho vote was takon. In otl.or
words, thoy loat thcir frauohiaa by not attending
worship four timps in Aur@nbor, Decombor, and
january.
K.-lIow many Of H,sso baoksiidera we're
tlerei
Mr.. RI could not givo you a correct csti-
mate, for did not canvass. I know number
81 them tpnka TO mo and Hail It WIS too bad
they could not vote and l heard Of two members
tn-day who would hhvo voted agAinRt him, but
one OF them did not want to get mixed up III the
difficulty, and tho otller bud some frio,lds from,
tho country whom ho took to place Of amuse-
ment.
lie MUST 90.
R.-You arc determined to get rid of Mr. Me-
Carthy arc You 1ot3
Alr. R-Won, wo must got rid Of him, or ho
will get rid Of us. 1t does not matter either
some place o}He; but We want to keep tie churcl
property for the denomination. '''~ ~N'>NN~''
h.-Do you tlink Mr. Mccarthy, ii he had
control Of tho church, would forsako tho truo
failh? A~
Alr. RI cannot toll. The yory momont a
man becomes lia opponont, ho uses him llarsh>y.
and compelB him to leave. lie wauts ali III
powor in Lis own hanlB.
NO oFTENa.
R.-uas le mado my propositions to tho Dea-
colls, looking 70 settlement Ut tho contro-
yersy2
Mr. RI understand. from Aome people, tint
il he were restored by tho church, aild is char,
notcr nado good, he would loaye. I got 1t in q
roundabout way. TINT Ae would resign, anl au
inclined to thiuk that Homo who yotot
for McCarthy want him to GO away
but do not want hin, to leayo as things aro now
We went to tllel!a and askol thom What nhoult
DO iouo, but they said, "Don't know; cant
toll, and wo haye takou upon ourselves thu
responsibility OF doing something, aud ns 1901
~ NO did thoy contlomAe4 uH. We may Aayt
done soma things TINT wo ought not to have
tlono; wo haye causod harsh foelingH. I hayo NJ