New-York tribune., 1874-12-05
GENERAL FOREIGN NEWS.
STORMY DEBATE IN THE GERMAN
REICHSTAG

| RElCHSTAG.
THE POLICY OF THE GOVERNMENT TOWARD SPAIN
CRITICISED BY THE ULTRAMoNrANEs-REPLY OF
PRINCE BIsMARcK-AN ACRIMONIOUS DISCUSSION
OF THE ATTEMPT ON BIsMARCK's LIFE.
| BERLIN, Friday, Dec. L. 1874
In tho Reichstag to-day letter from the Chan
cellor of the Empire, Prince Bismarck was read. 1t
announces in the OF the Emeror and in accord
anoe with the decision of the Federal Council that
| the sum for the maintenance Of German Legation
| to the Vatican is struck ont of the budget.
The deputies from Asace and Lorraine sent
written notification to the President of the Chamber
that in view Of the condition of their country they
cannot serve on the Committee on the Alsace-Lor-
| raine Budget and Loan Bill.
Both communications werc referred to Commit
| tees
In tho course of debate on the estimates for the
committees of the Federal Council, Herr Joerg one
of the Bavarian deputies and member of the Cler-
| cal party. made vehement and bitter attack on
| Bismarcks foreign policy. He remarked that in
consequence OF Russia holding aoof the Chancellor
had made iasco Of his attempt at intervention IN
| Spain. He wished to know whether the Committee
of the Federal Council, which, according to the
Constitution, existed for the consideration OF ques-
tons of foreign policy. performed any functions.
Prince Bismarck replied that all important diplo-
| matte dispatches were communicated to the Commit
| tee, which met whenever summoned By the Presi-
dent. Nothing concealed from any OF the
Federated Governments. He emphatically repelled
the insinuation that the Federal representatives
did adequately protect the rights Of the vaIions
States. There had been any idea of iDterven-
ing in the affairs of Spain. When apprized of the
murder of Schmidt he said to himself such thing
would not have happened to q British, French
or American citizen. lie remembered the hnnhila-
tiOns formerly imposed on Germans, and consldereu
that the time had arrived to avenge such wrongs.
The only way of helping Spain was to recognize
those clements the country which were disposed
to restore public order Russia less affected by
Spanish concerns than Germany. He respected the
decision of Russia power with which Germany
had lived in intimate friendship for century
"If" continued Bismarck, "yOur darts are directed
against that friendship, they will miss their aiiA'
can quietly bear the chargo of the tidsco'
Referring to an assertion of Herr Joerg that Null
mann was Il madInap, Bismarck replied:
he Was not a iBadman You don't want to nave any
Thing In common with Kullmann; that comprehend
But he cngs tightly to your coat tails asked nun
mann why he wished to kill me- He answered, I'm
account of the Church laws, and because you inSned
my party. 1 asked, (Which party" and he replied
1.-The Centre or Ultramontanes."
At this point there was great turmoil in the CHAM
Der. Prince Bismarck added: lyon may thrust
Kullmann away; he nevertheless belongs to YOU"
Here the House burst into cheers. which were loud
and C-continued As the applause subsidized, cries
of "Pfui! pfuip were heard from the Ultramon
tame benches. The President declared these eX-
clamations unparlamentary Prince bismarck SAID:
have no right to ceusure such cXclam Itions f4W
is an expression OF di gust and contempt ny sell am
not stranger TO these feelings but hope AN TOO l0e
10 express them.
Herr Windhorst an Ultramone, rose and said that
in his speech from the balcony in kissengen' alter
Kulnanns attempt. bismarck gave the signal for
attack on the Centre. 1t was wrong 10 incite one
marty against another. They were drifting, without
that, toward war.
Prince Bismarck repelled the accusation. Ho
pointed to the continued incitement IN the Cltfa-
montana press and to the events which LED 10 inc
attempt of Kulman on his life and added:
Wore / 70 believe half OF what the Uiramontane pa
pors say against me- who knows what should 90
Herr Lasker declared Windhorst's remarks ibont
melting to war unworthy of representative Oh the
people.
The President called Laslcr to order.
LONDON. saturdty, Doc. o. 1874
Jtis reported that the Deputies from Alsace and
Lorraine were SO incensed at Blsmarcks speech OF
Nov so that they threatened to Withdraw from tio
Recbstag and quit Berlin; but their friends remon-
strated with them and induced them to stay.
PRESIDENT MACMAHON'S MESSAGE.
VARIOUS INTERPRETATIONS DY CONSERVATIVES AND
REPUBLICANS
PARIS. Friday, Dec. T. 1874.
The newspaper organs of the Republican party
think that the message of President MacMahon to
+ho Assembly il directed against the Legtimists,
while the journals published in the interests of the
haI;ave ia Dointed toward the Radi