The New York herald., 1874-12-22

have shown. 80 far, desire to do all that the
commigtes wanted, 10 the extent OF my power
and would ike to do so now.
The committee having spent some time In con-
mr ne Irwin re DISPOSED ar as posSbs
10 meet YOU in the same spirit III which you ap.
pear ne ore taem. Tney nave been gratined at the
disposition ycu have manifested SO FAR, and they
are embarrassed IN this way:-they nave spent
good deal OIL tine upon these preliminaries, and
about II. we have short session OF Congress ag
most, We nave recess that VIII prooabiy oegin
possible before tne recess. We do nos
batrledore ana shuttlecocs in New York during
the recess: we want TO close up the matter before
done il We Wait ior you until Monday. because
other witnesses must be examined De.
so tore sa @ WE .pg ,sns ,na;
having yonr counsel and your accountants here
yon ySs can be prepared by that time 10 answer u
Witness assented to this arrangement and
pronsea pnd to 40 the best be could 10 get ready
untii saturday, the 18th inst, at halfpast ten
He DECLINES TO ANSWER.
Examination of r. B. Irwin continued -
help you here IN securing The the subsidy A. mum.
Der OF persons, but not any one subject to the
jurisdiction oi the House.
Q. Please give taeir names. A. shall be obliged
very reluctantly. Mr. Chairman, 10 decline giving
% ms to sss
give the committee every assistance in
nv power, and and, wish now, IoI my ON.
committee that it was In my power consistently
with what conceive to De my duty to give these
names; but after careful rejection, l have salts
ned myself that have no right do decline to
answer the question upon several grounds, which
am prepared to states but, before stating them.
declare that did not employ In this connection
c any senator "a or any member Of c9asress or any
swer upon the following grounos:-
FirsThat the resolutions referring this matter to the
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e sha5 question That q course do not know
s5s5 ns employ ,S:.: S:,;
suaned with it, to nszaslve thai staenens. osnp
moreoysr there being ALREADY suticient tsstHoHy e
myself and others 10 conSinoe amy
!Ss SUBSIDY; aas that the. the money w:: a:sS
he srsasr tina. s,sSes The sS%%,s,::
Ss!,dea ~ subject sSs:s 4:
pcins in the sssmony wnich have 'ssssssHI sssssHI:
ana ma sfHs the nn sF'SSna Sss
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4 2 The
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persoa whaiever aai esoecaliy in siioa o :uSlsst
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submit these points 70 the eonmittse With srsa, Def
my power to answer as they wish.
The first paragraph OF the foregoing answer hav.
Ing been read over 10 witness. after consulting ma
counsel, ne said II desire TO correct my answer ny
adding after the words or any officer OF the preu.
ent Congress- in the second TO the last sentence
Of the first paragraph the words, who was mem.
Der or ofcer o, the Forty second Congress- 50 thar
that did not employ IN TINS connection any Sena.
tor or any memoer OF Conaress, or any oInc Of
OF the Forty.sscond Congress-" /"
@. Do you insist upon declining to answer the
question put to your A. DO SO. Mr.. Chairman.
9. Without waiv,ns tnat question. and insisting
upon ITS answer, desire to put anosnsr' WI. VIII
Sa Of the ,,Um ns You ssuc @
sss Dsn 96s subsidy ana put in
Of other persons TO aa on 1on ~ a. tnas WORK. A.
Q. VIII you state wnar was the largest sum You
Chairman. think shall have to decline answer.
ina rnat Tor the reasons stated.
ns Inc upon them ask you to stais now many per.
sons you employed to aid you in procuring me
answer mat question il could recoieci tue mum.
Der. but really DONE remember; quite large
number; should say on hand az many as twenty
Q. DO you mean to say that your engagement o.
persons to AID you IN procuring the passage OF the
subsidy through Congress Tor the Paci0c Mail
Steamship Company was OF suci secret and con.
close its
Mr.. Chapman (of counsel Tor 1rwin) Il object as
this stage or the proceedings, and instruct the
witness not to answer tnat question, as II 10 out.
SIDE Of the jurisdiction under which this inquiry
was directed.
the Witness-I decline to answer upon the
ground that 1t Is beyond the Jurisdiction Of the
Committee under the resolution By which this 10.
Quiry was ordered and upon other RroundA
The committee adjourned until Monday.