The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-02-15
GERMANY and THE PAPACY
The English Demonstration
in Favor Of Bismarck.
Two Meetings Against
UltramOntanism.
Bismarck and the Emperor as
Soldiers Of Christ"
THE MEETING AT ST. JAMES, HALL.


LONDON, Jan. %, 1874.
The conversion OF forcesn in English cOnserva-
ttsm was well Illustrated by the resolutions OF the
meeting yesterday at ST. James and Exeter halls
to express the sympathy OF the English people
with the Emperor OF Germany in his present
struggle with the utramontanes. Remembering
that few mouths ago william was the butt OF
English Indignation and sarcasm-caricatured as
an archhypocrite, Vandal, a robber, the favorIte
object OF defamation and insult-it did seem a
little strange to hear English audience applaud
to the echo the declaration OF OF the speakers
that he was the most just, humane, even tender
hearted Of s0vereigns, full OF faith in God ana His
m1ssi0n-a very political apostle OF Christ. 'The
times have changed" indeed.
Al st. James, Hall the chairman Sir John Muir
ray, read letter from Lord Russell expressing his
regret that his attendance was impossible, his SYM
patty, however, being with the object OF the meet
Ing, and then proceeded in that peculiarly English,
uninteiligibe manner OF speech, in comparison with
which American talking ia called nasal, to discuss
the subject of the coming together OF the assem-.
bly,, which was really very respectable one in
point OF numbers. though not more than three
1ouyths of the seats were nlled He showed the
audience that uitramOntanism was not merely the
enemy Of Germany, but Of England and urged the
English people to arouse themselves and make
common cause against 1t. The speech was filed
with very respectable commonplaces and plau-
datory Of the Emperor, but could only hear now
and then q sentence
THE DEAN OF CANTERBURY
made admirable expose of the ecclesiastical stu
alton, spoken with q want Of oratorical color and
warmth which marred its erect, but which at the
same time left its clear and succnct analysis OF the
matter from his point OF view even more emphatic
shan 1t would have been had the statement been
encountered with any supernuous words. have
rarely heard so fair and comprehensive an exposi-
ton OF any great theological controversy as this
showing OF the thread OF hostility between the
prerogatives assumed by the Church and those or
the state which runs through the history OF the
the Kingdom OF England for centurieA He
also insisted strongly that this was not
sectarian question, but one which Affected
liberty OF thought and conscience in all sects. His
mention Of the name OF Prince Bismarck, the first
In the course Of the meeting, brought out the
most enthusiastic demonstration OF applause
which was made during the meeting-prolonged
and almost frantic-this wicked Mephstopheles Of
the imperial Faust Of 1901
The Dean gave a sound and temperate exposi-
tion of the relations Of the "things which belong
TO Cesar" and ''tne things which belong to God,n
and read several quotations from ultramontane
authorities to show the real nature OF their claims,
and concluded, In well merited applause, very
model OF theological polemic, without acrimOny,
without exageeraton and without any appeal to
btg0try or fear.
IMPATIENT oRAroRY.
The next speaker, Sir Thomas Chambers, took
arS ts anc gooa forensic style the legal MS
the laws Of England that the Crown had been in
perpetual struggle with the Roman hierarchy for
evoked reaasnt applause
and an Old Catholic moved the second resolution in
a olh nct1u fnon In ham
which the meeting cut snort ptilessly by calls for
"ime." Mr.. Newdegate followed IN conventional
and appeals to prejudice, going in Tor the opening
Of his periods like lion and coming out like q
were simply lnaudible and which necessitated con-
tinua cries OF Louder" and he concluded with
out regret, but with an appeal to the elections.
Sir Robert Peel spoke audibly but so iengthiy
that the meeting lost patience, and, not getting
Qutd pro quo Tor its time ana fatigue he was
rather expedited by demonstrations from the plat
form, ana Colonel Cameron continued with a few
Indignant words about people who had got up to
others who had come hundreds OF miles 10 distin-
guish themselves at the meeting were unheacd.
AN AMERICAN ORATOR.
Rev. j. p thompson, formerly OF the Tabernacle
church, New York, but represented as from Berlin,
was introduced and, apOlogiZing for coming to in
nor English, but an American was received with
such hearty applause and welcome as to show at
element therein fact, it was generous, fraternal
welcome which must have put any man at his ease.
Mr. Thompson made the speech Of the day, and,
though the meeting had already been long, the
audience insisted on hearing him through, and he
occupied the house nearly an hour without sign
OF Impotence ana in the most complete silence,
except when Outbursrs Of applause Interrupted his
speaking. The Times OF to-day does Justice to his
had eivena real REPRESENTATION OF the facts Of the
case. He argued that the question was not one OF
persecution OF the Catholics but OF preservation OF
society from propaganda Which undermined the
bases OF all loyalty and SOCIAL order. He gave
. history OF the controversy an expose OF all the
In opposition, an abstract OF the laws passed by
the German government, and, IN short,
thorough understanding Ct the struggle now gong
on. Several times he proposed to cut his speech
fep Da on lou eres 81 mo no 60 on
The meeting having commenced at two. When
say that Mr. ThompsoL's speech was the speech Of
meeting accorded 1t, and the tremendous applause
with which 1t was concluded, the congratulations
poured on him afterward and the fact that when
everybody was already wearied with nearly three
hours OF speaking the attention was more
a. any up tine fully Justify s 96e asian nan
tion. He had come from Berlin expressly to at.
tend this meeting; he was earnest in his ad-
vOcacy and eloquent in his manner, and his recep-
ton from beginning to end was one which any
American might have been proud or When he
had concluded the chairman abruptly ended the
meeting by calling for three cheers iOr the Queen
and the national anthem.
omits oil mention OF Mr.. Thompsons speech or the
speaker, ending IT'S report with the remarks OF
Colonel Macdonald. The Times alone generously
acknowledged the curious fact that a chance
American contribution to the eloquence of the oc-
casiUn was the real pith OF the meeting and OF a
practical vein which none OF the English speeches
had. 1t is pleasant to be able to add to this that
the manner in which this contribution was re-
ceived aud applauded was as fine an example OF
true English hospitality and cordially as any
American could desire or Is ever likely to Witness
The Meeting at Exeter Hall.
LONDON. Jan. %, 1874
TAo
proceedings conaemns very Justly the ST.
James Hall and Exeter Hall meetings held
under the auspices OF the Protestant Ed
ucation Institute as being simply ''No