The New York herald., 1874-07-27

! Q. What kind OF u room was that sit ting room2
! q. Fhe right hand part was the sitting room,
and the lett hand part was a bedroom communI-
! .. That s where you receive your intimate
! frendsY A. Yes
O. II you had found Mr.. Beecher with your wife
10 the sitting room you would have found him
where you should have expected TO ind him.
O. Ii the door had not been locked you would not
! have thought anything OF itr A. No. should
m ,hose N
was more welcome guest at our house tnan he.
G Now Sor Mr. ItSn ton Sa, can you say whether this
ruary 8, 1852 A. Yes, it must have been long
time before that. ! think; Won't be certain; It
! q. You say that her letters informed you that
! Mr.. Beecher had made twelve pastoral VISITS at
BY Mr.. iiil-YOn have all the letters from which
you say yon discovered that the Twelve visits were
q, And those you will producer A. / think that
Tilton's communication} six and changed to hve
weeks-wnch Is correct? A. tAiter some explana-
tlOns.) 1t Is correct as IL is there
q. You say, Mr.. Tlton, Tor year after what you
state as Mrs. Iilton's confession, she insisted to
you that she had not violated her marriage vow9
A. Yes; EllZaheth was in d sort or vapO Gus Ike
! cloud; she vas between light and dark she could
not see that IL was wrong; she maintained 70
her mOther In my presence that she had
not done wrong; she cannot bear TO do
wrong; sense OF having done wrong
seeks for her own peace conscientious verdict;
she never would have had these relations " she had
supposed az the time that they were wrong; Eliza
! eth never does anything that at the time seems
wrong; tor such large mural nature there is
/ lack OF certain balance and equIpOise; she has
not will tnat guides and restraints; but Elizabeth
never does at any time that which does not have
the stamp OF her conscience at :he time upon H.
Q. DO you say that did or did not insist that
she had violated her marriage vowsS A. Sac
wrong;' and "Theoiore, / DO not now see that
have wrOnged YOU"
/ Q. What do you understand her as meaning by
| n 4 - n l0Va ia
/ sin ~ A. Iratner think she meant carrying love
| to too great an extent.
! Yes
q. Then you understand her, as early as 1858, as
saying that the abuse OF the gift Of love by adultery
would be a SIN A. Yes.
Q. Sne Is a lady OF intelligence, is she nots A.
She Is in some respects lady OF extraordinary in
telligence; she mas a remarkable gilt at times
which anybody might envy; there Is nothing low
@. Is she u lady OF large readings A. There are
very few ladies' OF larger reading; she was educated
quite lu course she reads much TO her blind
aunt and to the children; used to read q good
carried to her sheets OF his .Lile Of Christ, and
many chapters OF 'Norwood;' used to read to
Q What do you say about the "Lile OF Christ'
and "Norw0odn-tnat he carried them to her to
eriticises A. Yes Or not exactly to criticse; she
Is not q critic In the sense that she take par
tcular phrase and change the language Of it but
she could tell whether a little speech uut into
Rose Wentworth's mouth was one woman would
q. He took those chapters to read to her for that
purpose, having hIgh regard Tor her opinion in
that matter-not as high regard Tor her opinion in
strictly critical sense A. No; put in TIE sense
whether 1T was womanly, and larger than that,
whether 1t touched human sympathy or not. re-
member that ne took her the first sheet OF the
said he mad not read it to anybody else"
q. When did he write Norwood :" A. do not
know
q. When did he write his first volume of HIS
"Lile OF Christ T A. 1t was alter Norwood"
% "a r. xvas nnh,,shnd ot,er .sNorwooa -, =,
q. You know he took it to her to read A.
aud the 'Ilie OF Chrlsth'h he had brought the open.
ing part OF the tn ellie life OF Christ" and think also
=: You understand that ne brought them to her
! Q. You yourself would regard her as an admira-
! BILE crlticY A. on, yes; always liked to take
everything wrote to Elizabeth sometimes when
thought had written anything particularly nice
ran down and read 1t to her; she was one OF the
best Of critics; she never praised an article be-
cause 1t was mine or his but only when she liked
| it.
9. You found her Judgment not warped by her
er IN cnaT a. no t1ad Is ae
! the piano and playing, and Elizabeth loved that
lady very much, she would tell her abon. the play
ing-that it was good, or that it was uot-but she
would not say that the playing was good because
she loved the woman; she would not say so unless
Elizabeth liked what wrote she did not like 1t on
my account, though she was glad when wrote
/ Il
Ueen minister none OF this trouble would have
come; she was always in sorrow that was not a
I mnster-which IS the only virtue that possess;
thank God do not belong to the priesthood or tue
Church; 1t may not be an acceptable statement to
!. q DO you mean py that, Mr.. Tilton, that the
want of strong religious feature in your character
was not that; because, though should not like to
say II OF myself; yet am more religious man
man nos' Of religious sy%pathes Who o. S
hates and despises religious creeds; do not be-
lieve III one OF the thirty y-nine articles. nor in
either OF the Catechlsms. nor IN the divinity in.
junction OF the Scriptures, nor in the divinity
OF Christ, in the sense in which it Is. held.
] believe his writings to be ennooded by the
Divine breath. 1t was not that lack religious
spirit. man ought not to say that: per-
spirit; / love God, and am fond OF religious sent-
ment but hate The creeds; was taught to hate
them during the anti-savery controversy; saw
the churches selling the negroes and despise
/ hutch; now put it down there ito reporter)
say that | despise the church. and generally de-
q. Wen, 1T was that lack Of reverence for the
church and Its ordinances and your lack of belief
missed in youY 4. Yes ''''
q. And she grieved overng A. On yes, indeed;
grieved over IL with tears.
T. And what she found wanting IN You she found
In Mr. Beecher. did she nots A. Yes, she did. and
ought spend the rest OF his life in penileuCe and
anguish; If Mr.. Beecher had held the same relig-
nylng the divinity Of Christ he never could have
made any approach to her, and the affection and
love WnlCn sue DOre 10 MIN WOulu never nave
isted-i mean the strong arection-it could not
possibly have done so.
Q. Tue enthusiasm for him " hich she felt would
never nave existed IN that caseY A. No.
Z. YOu have no doubt that 1t was that feature in
his character which reused her enthusiasm and
made him to her q sort Of poem, did It not9 A.
Yes, sort OF apostle; | think she regarded Mr..
Beecher almost as though Jesus Christ himself had
walked In that Is an extravagant expression, but
you must not take 1t literally; know that she
wanted to make the children look upon the clergy
with reverence; she ought to be an Intense Roman
Catholic, like Mme Guon-a mystic; think she
certainly spends hours on her knees some days:
l don't suppose day ever passes over
Elizabeth that the sun, II he could peep
though the windows, would not her on her
knees. and my Oldest daughter, Florence, though
she looks like me, is like her mother; here has
come this great calamity on my house; there was
that publication last night; sne IT. and this
morning what did sue do2 heard q noise in the
house, and found that she was down In the front
parlOr playing on the meodeOn like heroine
at n 81 % mi foft atoy IN