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I wish, now, to bring this to head, to make
LoIna Daatn her mint. and cila l1ennA rA11ly.


wish, now, to bring this to q head, to make
some numbered points, and Challenge reply:
l. We either know, or elsa we do not know,
that tho whole Bible is infallibly true. If It il
incalible. no Christian b., uny right to be Lib.
eral II We do not know that it il tnfallible, OF
ii We know it IS not then no one has any rigai
to dogmatize, OF be exclusive; for it all comes
to tho matter OF rational study md test
only fair this. liberalism should have the benefit
OF their couut@nanco and popularity. II they
are not " LIBERAL" their liberal laymen will know
what course to takc in order to be consisten:
with what they think is truth.
8. II these public utterances really contain
the creeds Of these gentlemen: then they arc not
Is orthodox" No man with such "tooae y
theories on his lips could pass an orthodox e1-
animation for tue ministry. They should either
confess this, then. and take tier right name OF
4s liberals :" or else they should confess that
liberals a1e orthodox, aud take them to their
confidence and pu1plts.
4. II these expressions are not their creed,
then here ia triaing With language which menus
Pickwickianism, which, being Interpreted, means
dlsingcuuousnoss.
do not wish to prolong this article, hut, to
make the foregoing clear to all thinkers: i is
ncedful to distinguish the " Christian world" in
to three Glasses. Thus anyone may be able to
place himself, or anyone olse, and this is the
more QGEQ1W D9CauSa 6o u1aA1 4AAl ~ t1iAh
clearly, and are led more BY sentiment than BY
logi: :.
High Church party. They place the Church
above the Bible and, though intensely ortho-
dos, arc such By virtue OF Church authority,
and they hold tho Bible, in the language Of az
English Churchman, as only the 81 expression of
the belief Of the early Church. F"
The second class is the Protestant Low
Church party, including al orthodox dissenters:
They take the Bible as the ultimate standard OF
belief. They have no right to tamper with it,
OF allogorize it, or hold any Of it loosely. In
the words Of Chillingworth, 1.-The Btblo, the BIZ
Bile Is the religion Ct tho Protestants." This
class, as an Eastern Doctor OF Divinity has we'll
said. ''has no right to be liberal. They arc
cannot change or give up the Bible, or any part
OF it; but can only be commentators.
The third class, for wans OF q better name,
are called liberals. They hold reason, ,sclence-that
is, verified fact-and historical criticism as
above All Churches and all books They do not
deny to tho Bible inspiration, but they do deny
infaltibil,ty>
The application is this: Tho Alliance article,
the sermon, and tho doctrine OF conversion ali
belong properly and logically, to this third class
in the Christian Church, and eince this is 80.
let Us have the right ]ape1s put on the right
packages.
Yours, TOR Christianity and logic,
J. M1Nor SAYAaR.
THE REy. DR. DE EoTES.
~ tie Editor Of The CAicago TRIBUNE:
S1R l. writer in THE TRIBUNE OF this morn
ing, signing himself An EpiscopaIian," de-
flames the Rev. DR.. DoKoven either ignoran tly
or 1naliciously. In either event the attack Is
grossly outrageous. In my opinion, the writer, in
stead Of being " An Episcopalian (as he repre-
Bents himself, to give weight to his slaude1s), is
friend OF Ir. Cheney, and takes this method of
stabbng the Episcopal Church through au attack
upon Dr.. DeKoyen.
DR.. DeKoyen does not sympathize with Roman
Catholicism in respect to either the doctrine OF
Transubstantiation or that Of Confession, ,as
this slandarer more than inslnuates. In the
speech to which you made editorial reference
in q recent issuo {and which reference called
out the communication OF the writer in ques-
tion), the Doctor expressly declares that the
Real Essence 10 the Holy Eucharist rs believed
in by himself and those who agrce
with him, is = spiritual, not corporal,
presence. This is very far from the
f,onan Catholic doctrine, as your readers Of any
intelligence are we'll aware.
Roman Catholicism holds to compulsory con-
fossion makes private confession and absolu-
tion necessary. If your correspondent means to
state twlat his words mike him do in effect)
that DR.. Dakoyen Is 4 believer in any such doc
trine, then I pronounce him q falsifer.
I have the great pleasure Of personal &C
quaiutanca with the Doctor, and know his views
On theaa subjects hence speak advisedly.
CHICAGO. jan. ~. 1914. 1RuTH.
TIE n1suopn1c OF WISCONSIN.
To the EIitos Of Tho Chicago Tribune:
S1R: Your editorial On DR.. Dehoyen ia somo-
what justified by his language in the late Gener-
al Convention, but il you will read big other
speech in tile same body you will find that he
modi6es himself, aud both speeches, on.the same
subject, in the same body, and at the same SEES
aio1, must be considered.
His views s7e not received by many in the
Church, but persons holding these We've are not
only to DO tolerated in the Church, but also
have their rights III q grand catholic aud unaec-
tartan body. The Cheney Cummins' movement
is much to be condemned, because it adds anoth-
er sect to Chrlstendom. It narrows, instead of
widening, the terms Of communion. 1t excludes
rituaIsts and all men like Dr. DoKoven. The
Church ought to be broad enough to bold men
OF al varieties OF opinion, receiving the Apostles
Creed.
Bu. what ars Dr., Dahoven's yiews2 + m can
not as gathered from uaguarde1 debate, but
from the whole Of bis writings. They scarcely
approximate those OF Martin Luther, and argue
ouly real proaence, but not Of material, but
spirited kind zeal presence to the penitent
aud believing recipient only. They arc not
stranger than those Of Calvin. Would
those who rail at DR.. DekoEen shut out Luther
and Calvin from the Protestant Church
But your correspondent styling himself IS An
Episcopaiau, /" but nauifestly i partisau Of tho
new movement, puts it too strongly for any in
te1lgent reader, and disgusts every lover OF 1ar-
dealing.
DR.. DeKoyen is no advocate OF private con-
fession, in the ordinary use Of the term. But Dr..
DeKoyen feels that mere preaching ls not su1ii-
cicnt at the present time to reach the OWLS Of
srudent-life- He does not believe that the best
method Of governing colleges is by Fncu]ty meet
ings, formal trials, md morning moral lectures;
bat the Doctor becomes father to the boys,
and, instead of taking his ease out OF school
hours, encourages the boys to 80 to him with
their troubles and improprlcties. He does not
profess to forgive sins, nor teach such nonsense.
But he is d real father and loving friend. Such
confessions es he encourages would make bet
ter and brighter world for us ALL aud save many
young men from ruin.
These very confessions make the college attract
i've aud efficient, and they should pe encouraged
everywhere. The results Of their tabors il the
reclamation Of wanderers Induce Ptesbyteriaus,
M.etholists, and Low chu!chmen to pass by
their Own institutions and patronizo Racine;
When understood, the religious Protestant world
will everywhere favor such confessions. The
inainuation about girls is only worthy OF aa
synonymous elanderer. It marks tho parentago
Of the last communication.