New-York tribune., 1874-08-03
MR.. HOLDEYs TALK WITH Mr.. BOWEN.

TIE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TluPAkTIlE CoMiACI-
rB. CABPENTEE', INTEHyENTIoN.
b. Carpenter, inshis statement published
in The brooklyn Argus, was reported IT, say ..' L.
B. Holden, Prominent Con-reIailohdIl'' oi -i'"'N
kee wi,.was present when Henry C. BjWen lls' al o.
denying that he had authorized VI. I'toh charges
against Mr. Beecher Of mpropr etes wish other mem
hers of his CONGREGATION than Mr. T.gon hlI really ad
ited the fact by declaring that be had made 10 r.
traction IN the Tiiparute Treaty" Mr. Holden has
been iuerrcgated tie subject and the most important
part Of toe conversation viii be found below TIE et-
ter OF Mr. T;on alluded tots the famous one Of JuY l.
1871 in which he qYoel what NJ. Bowen nad cEA sed
against Mr.. Beecher:
a When wis Nj Tilton's first latter published !.
II va, IN the oprns Vi l.74 l. YOU rec1ii-ct te "o1
hull people had puDli,hei statement li tH' f". ti,
vions bu n wa- not noticed very much By rrsptcid"e
ueope OF course 10 wa, az sez 81 On ID o" PA
reut people bat auOns the r-ll! '-l'liu &. - 90
no effect some better evidence VA, itlI.rei before
aLy eyIl COZ. possibly be believed about 1f - '!-
u wIs 1OUNC- ds sly, hJ tlis Liet I.'.i. "l- 80
Hartford nc tA- time. l came down ore h'r".i- I'D
breakfast aui picked up pap r. aud taeir "t' mum
derstrut x t. read ms statement H-re 'H''-H. N'3
,ur evidence th1ilt hLG 10 ne coAll'.'L p. ~ u
oren member OF the church, and there - sa'u 'ther
names 30 40 iuseI thut IA not sec H." 90 - P'>'i0e
lor the letter 10 be pL,sed m s!.eLo., y-. & '.
tons cogtancd m the iei''T was tat. ~, - ,i j
hal told NJ T.ton that Nr. Be.th,r hai 10
Travelled about the East tor tive OF xix laJ; it thai
the mater had got 10 be settled 0ne WAY ~ me ON =
and soon uly made up NY ulud tiit "ieh teach'I
NeW-YOrs would - IN and see Nj. Bowen 10 learn
from ms lips whether n hld ever made ahN sLch
statement a. that whicI Mt. Ilton haI Put ul1 ms
mouth. You must know that vas ao4 llIttC WIN
NJ. Bowen and sought % see n' not oIy ron per
sOua motives, but also on the ground that Hl' No-
rcgauOnals feeling strong interest IN any 'hluS y 7
tanning 10 the deEumiAauon: vas tAte,u 9'eT @ tLs
and wncu got !ntO me g'""t"' v'A s'W
Mr.. Bowen az tn cashiers desk. haut nun Ro"I
day" aud said | wanted 10 speak 10 nm re replied
tnat lie WOaId see IDe III Few lnOmeuts Ia Tue mean
time went up - one Of the clerks to settle mp accounts
VIII DC looking up thr account gave expression
10 several remarks IN tone OF Dii-hA-s 80 70
hin: a ucc kHd of COngregauOua.ss ou are ID ths
par, of the country. charging elcn OtIsT "ltA
iiug ad ~ cry ana don't know whlt IL nee thhg
10 take y .WsplYcT uier each luudeIte~ Wat is th,
meaning Of al tnIs see IN the papers ABOUT lIt1h an
Bowen aud BsecheIi A very pretty staie oI anArs
A Gentleman whom had not noticed. standing bchlnl
ine. here JON ID ~ with tte remark IAat = .le W -
feel about it," continued, nave come doWd 10 Sc
Jr Raven abouf tn, thing b what truth there j.
IN ms story" Tnat Is Just what have come here io
100 addei the gentlemen. who are yol. 5It /
asked moi knowing the man. Ny name j, T. b. Car
nenfrr" Iimmedately recoectcd Mr.. CARPENTER as an
mist and literary man. AMI proceeded to talk Win
lin lie astoui.hed me by saying that nc was surprised
AT Nj T!ltOus having written sucL 4 e.ltl az w
wDo,e thins had been closed up. "Wha' sald l, tne
ahraa m,rI,es retractiug everything signed since
then" Just as We were talking together Mi
Bowen, who had hnishcd Ms bhslAe-N, ctue ca
up ana asked rs TO step from the if'nI one nee
into his back room. When We entered he locked lA9
door, and nJtiOned rs 10 seats. AItef ItN HuiI''
was ru that had to speak righ OUT. san 20 nm III
thar hid read the letter which had been pIbusLed D!
Mr. Titon, IN which he WAS alleged 10 nave s"id MAJ
Mr. Beech-r had been guilty OF adultery VIVA certain
Ibid YOU saw tnai, Nj. Bowenl" IL did not reply
for moment or 80, but held bis hand up 10 ms n,1a
He looked very solemn and after pause eA Ai,het
"Mr. Carpenter there knows that mo" 10 I'll \ not
silent when IL j. necessary MI Ct!I,ut.I ~ -, .ai1
l. has told me that since the letter Was written VT
parte agreement has been entered INTO Dy WvH & SUd
before; that YOU have taken 1t all back i tha' 80
Mr. Bowen VINO was sitting IN his armchair was silent
for few secondI ana at length, IN the most ,nPcs
siye tone said Mr.. Carpenter l. mistaken Mr Car
penter merely made some unmporIant Iemdf4'