National Republican., 1874-05-16

4 lines. and by an exauipation of the present
| condition of the cut and comparing 1t with the
| cross sections It would determine what had
/ been done; that is what / did; 1t is not al
! taken out yet between the building lines.
measured what was actually taken out.
| By Mr.. Stewart: Q. In measuring these fill
| did YOU make any allowance for settling of the
different materials A. No, ,sir, did not.
assume that It was all filed. / measured II
on the supposition that it was all-not any
supposition, either; l measured it actually az
It stood. a.. i ~
Q. Is It customary in measuring up work tc
measure it up when It is green, and in measur-
ing it up when it is green do you make any al
lowance as to what 1t with be when IL is set
tied? A 1t is my custom to make allowance
when / measure it green. 1t will, when set
tied, be actually less than u appears to -be
vhenit IL measured green. tl a -
q. So that when II is measured green you
aim to get at what 1t will be after it is settled
4. That depends upon what object / have in
view when measure. If / measure with the
object of paying the contractor for work on the
supposition that am paying him In emhank-
ment when his contract requires him TO
complete It as it will be when fully settled,
then if make partial payment during the
progress of the work, while the work is green,
deduct from the appearance Of it from what
it appears to be, in order to be safe, and not
give him more thanh is entitled to. i = >
Q. What ia q commonly understood.
Does 1t mean that q eoutrset for the filling
when it is green, or eDHtrzet ior MI TheI,
it is settledl What is the ordinary pode OF
letting it2 Do they generally put clause in,
or what is understood when no clause Is pnt
fn7 A. The practice varies somewhat. think
the general practice is not to pay in embank-
ment 1t is to pay in excavation simply.
Q. But where you pay for embankment is 1t
the practice
Mr.. Thurman. There is no charge for en-
bankment here.
Mr.. Stewart. ! want TO know what this
custom was for my own information.
Mr.. Thurman. There was no charge for en-
bankmentl
The Witness. No; the charge was for exca
vation and haul.
By the Chairman: @. Is there a charge to
the Government for embankment A. Yes,
sir; that is to say. cannot say, sir, whether
the Government is charged for embankment or
not, any more than this that in making up
their statement of yards they have included
both the excavation and the embankment in
that statement.
By Mr.. Bass: Q. And excluded the haul
A. They have no charge for haul. They have
taken in quantity the excavation and embank-
ment both, and fixed a general price for the
whole of it.
By Mr.. Stewart q. If there is a contract
for so much embankment for street or for q
railroad, would that mean, according to the
general usage as you understand it, that it
should be embankment settled or embankment
Immediately after the work was done to be meas
ured then. What would be the usage among
engineers if there was nothing said in the con-
tract about it? Is there any usage? A. The
usage is not as well settled in that respect as
in some other, but think it would be consid-
cred as requiring him to make the embank-
ment complete for the purposes for which it
was intended.
The Chairman. Right upon that point let
me ask question. What is the greatest height
of embankment on that avenue? A. 1t is
about II or Is feet. / cannot answer GER
tainly.
q. Was the earth excavated and carried into
embankments as matter of factf The earth
excavated upon one part of the avenue. Was
that hauled and thrown iuto embankments in
another part of the ayenuea A. cannot
answer that. ...,
O. Nor do you know the distance from the
excavation to the embankment. 7ou didn't
measure it? A. l did not.
By Mr.. Mattingly: Q. The number as charged
for embankment is more than excavation, is i
not? A. cannot answer that of-hand.
Q. According to your paperf
Mr.. Stanton. Yes; it is about three thousand.
The Witness. You use the word 'Schargef'
Mr.. Mattingly. The number Of yards meas
ured by you'd
The Witness. If you ask me for the number
of yards measured, that 1 can answer at once,
eyes"
By Mr.. Thurman: Q. If you take out cubic
yard by excavation, it will make more than o
cubic yard of green embankment? A. No, sir;
it will not make yard of ordinary material.
1t will make less than yard of embankment
in ordinary material.
Q. mean before 1t has settled-a green en-
bankment. You take out a cubic yard of solid
earth, and will not that make more than a
cubic yard of green embankmenti A. No, sir;
it will not make yard unless it is rock, sand,
very dry gravel, or something of that kind and
VerV rarely in that, except rock.
Q. 1t will not be as solid in the embanknfent as
it was in the original place in the earthf A.
cannot answer that question; but only know
this fact, and can call to your mind an Illus
tration, probably. If you dig hole in an
ordinary field, where there is tillable land, say
two feet square and three feet deep, and throw
the earth out and then shovel 1t back again,
the earth will not fill the hole.
Mr.. Mattingly. Mr.. Samo has just told me
that, in laying 36-inch main after the pipe is
laid, If you throw back the earth it will not be
sufficient to fill up the cavity.
Mr.. Thurman. know that is one of the
curiosities of this thing.
The Witness. That is one Of those things
that happen in nature. In regard 10 rock
that is broken up stone or something very
nearly approaching to rock that is broken up
it will more than fill again. II will increase,
and, in some cases, the rock will make nearly
two to one.
Mr.. Thurman. That is because of the inter
sticesl
The Witness. Yes; suppose so.
nj H., NI.ao
of additional fill required in embankment of
that characterl
The Witness. To provide for settlement
Q. Yes. Such material as you found there;
of course much depends upon the character Of
the under sofll A. Not much; not generally.
Q. What would be the ordinary additional
fill required after six months7 What wish to
get at is this, whether there is any material
additional fill required after settlement, say
OF six months on an embankment of thai char
acterl A. 1t depends much upon the material
and the character of the weather in the inter-
vening time.
Q. You say materiall Take that material
A. If there has been much wet weather
during that time it will probably have settled
down two thirds of the settling during that
time, and not more than that; there will still
be something required, should think ii, and
depends, too, upon how 1t is constructed. If it
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less Than otherwise. If that embankment was
built with carts It probably, after being freshly
completed. would settle from one eighth to one
tenth of its height, and l think perhaps two
thirds of that would be done the first six
months, if there was much wet weather; If
dry, very little would 20 down.
Q. Go on with the next.
Mr.. Mattingly. Before he leaves this New
Hampshire avenue ! would like to have the
witness state whether he included the work
that had been done in the filling over Slash
run sewer; you got your eross-section from
Mr.. Barneyf A Yes, sir.
Q. Do you know whether these cross-sec-
tions were used after q portion of the work had
been donei A. Yes, sir. ... r
Q. Have you included this In your statement
A. Mr.. Barney advised me of that fact, and
thereupon / asked Mr.. Barney to give me an
estimate of the amount of filing that had been
done over that sewer, as near as he could got
at it from such information as he had in his
possession before he took his cross-sectons that
he furnished me, and included that In my
statement.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. That is already taken
into the account A. Yes, sir. --.'.--.-.
Mr. Thurman. Proceed to the next point.
The Witness. Another place that meas
ured was Virginia avenue. suppose it is not
necessary to give them to you In the order
made the measurements. Upon this avenue I
was furnished with complete notes showing
the profile and cross-sections of the entire ave-