National Republican., 1874-05-09


and sixty-seyerf cents. That is the same.
Y. New York Avenue. A. One hundred an
hny-sever Thousand Seven hundred dollars an
seventy-two cents. That is different. On
hundred and sixty -one thousand Eve hundre'
and sixty dollars. 1t Is more in the tables thai
It is In the Measurement. There is difference
of about IS, 900 there.
h Q. Pennsylvania avenue. A, One hundred
and foFty-sfx thousand seven hundred ant
forty-three dollars and forty-three cents. Their
| is difference there, bat It Is very slight. A
difference of only few hundred dollars.
| Q. Rhode Island avenue A. twenty-five
Thousand seven hundred and fifty y-eight dollar.
and thirty-three cents. That is the same.
Q. South Carolina avenue. A. 30, ,4S1 .33
That Is the same.
Q, Yemont avenue. A. 81, ss,47. That
/ Is the same.
Q. Virginia avenue. A. 81, ,s99.ss. That
| is the same.
| Q. Now, It appears from this that the first
column shows that the amount Of work that
the Board Of Public Works claim had beer
done by the board prior to the District govern
ment, and the second column has all been paid
by this voucher which have referred, and the
first colum is embraced In this voucherl A
No, sir; you will fnd, think, that certain
credits have been made.
Q. You. will find the credits In the last col
umus there to the right A. No, sir; but GER
tain credits made on each one Of these particu-
lar avenues.
Q. They are deducted before you get at these
aggregatesl A. Yes, sir. In order TO arrive at
a correct statement, II would require US to 20
to work and condense the whole amount OF
material.
Q. You will see on the face Of this that It
would obviously appear, unless there was some
thing explanatory of It, that these two claims
are mere duplicates of each other. A. My i'm
preston is that, m making up this table, Mr..
Oertley took this second table here from these
different measurements.
Q. But still that would not explain It. Mr..
Oertley made up this tablet A. think he
did.
Q. But you see that would not explain IL, for
the reason that the first column contains the
work done by the old board, and the second
column contains work done by the old board.
A. The second column, as understand 1t, con-
tains some of both.
Q. Even putting 1t in that way, IL will not
explain 1t, because you have aggregated these
two columns together, and the three following
columns, and they. make an aggregate OF
81, PSI, ,7S6.3S. Then you have deducted
81 ~, ,l620 02 from that, leaving 81 ,056, ,574 So
which it is claimed, by this table and report,
the United States owes to the Board of Public
Works. Now, If this is as it appears upon the
face Of this table, 1t Is very obvious that the
Government does not owe any such sum as
that, and my purpose in putting these questions
Is to get an explanation of that. A. will
suggest this: that there be a measurement
ordered on all of these avenues; that the old
vouchers and the new vouchers be taken, and
an account be stated. That would be the
fairest way to get at It. Let an account be
stated. The principle has been established by
Congress in the last appropriation bill that
they will pay on the avenues all that is not
paid by private property owners, and II will be
a very easy matter to get at what is the exact
amount there.
The Witness. OF course I know nothing
about it except as it is reported to me.
Mr.. Wilson. know nothing about 1t except
as see It here.
ones, and would suggest that a full state
ment Of account be made of the material that
has been put on the streets.
Y. That first column, according to my foot
ing. aggregates STR, ,OS4, and this table would
be inaccurate to that extent If the data that
we have thus far is correcti A. There would
only be one way of getting at It properly,
aud that Is to put the whole work in and
make up a statement of the whole work on
each avenue as to what was done under the
old corporation and what was done by the
Board of Public Works, and thus get at it
definitely.
Q. Is there anything now that has thus far
been presented TO the committee that would
enable the committee to determine as to what
is the accurate amount that the Government
should pay on account of these avenues. This
table seems to have been made for the pur-
pose of enabling Congress to get at the exact
amount A. Yes, sir; and the table may be
right, but would not like to say anything in
regard to that until have gone through It, and
will have 1t all gone over and an account
stated in regard to these avenues.
Q. This thing attracted my attention in look
ing at the tables, and was unable to explain
It, and therefore desired to have an explana-
ton from you. A. It Is very natural that you
should want an explanation of it, because can
not understand il.
Q. / find here measurement of March 2S,
1873, amounting to about s1s0,OO0; have you
any such measurement as thatl
The Witness. 1 think that covers that sppro-
priation of S1SS 900, doesn't 1T
Q. What does that foot up tot It does not
seem to correspond. A. No, sir; net exactly;
but It occurs to me as the measurement upon
which that S1SS, 900 was based.
Q. cannot find any such measurement as
that in your answer.
The Witness. Any such measurement as
whichl
Q. As that of March 20, 1873. cannot find
any that corresponds either in date or amount
l inquired at the Treasury Department for all
the vouchers, and have not received any cor
responding with that from there. A. will
look into that. l do not know how Il is. do
not know what kind of voucher that was paid.
1t was paid to the District government and not
to the Board Of Public Works, and therefore
suppose is not in this appropriation. will
have statement made up in regard to this,
and have full account prepared, and see how
1t is.
@. This column, Traditional work." what
does that meant A. That is work done during
1S73-after March, I suppose.
Q. But you have another item of five hun
dred thousand odd dollars for work which has
been done during the summer of 1873. A. But
that is around Government property, and this
Is on the Avenue. This statement refers en-
tirely to avenues, as understand it.
Q. Upon what data is that column made up?
A. From vouchers of the board, suppose. It
must be so.
Q. At present you are unable to give any
further explanation in regard to that tablet A.
I will have full account stated of what was
done by the old corporation and all that has
been done by the Board of Public Works
there, and then deduct what has been done
and 1t will give the amount that is due.
Q. don't know whether you were interro-
gated in regard to the next item of this SC
count-the item of g., ,540, ,6S1 SO, which should
be 81, 2,74O, 600, as / understand i'll don't know
whether you were interrogated in regard to
that yesterday. A. Yes, sir; was questioned
by 'he chairman, and made this general state
men. that that would be the tax upon the
Government property provided they pay as
private property owners do under this general
sewerage law.
Q. That is to say, If adopting the general
sewerage act as the basis of taxation for main
IL you were to tax the Government
1t the same rate, the tax would amount TO that
sum Of money, and, therefore, you put it in the
form of Indebtedness to the General Govern
nent for main seweragel A. Yes, sir; making
Il in that shape.
Q. Do you know what this main sewerage
,ostl A. Well, it will cost about S3, ,O0O, 900
and little over, guess.
Q. A statement was brought to the commit
tee few days ago showing that the main sew
srage had cost, up to this time, 81 ,625, ,56 .S7l
A. That amount had Teen audited on that
account up to this time.
Q. Then you stated, 10 addition to that, in
one of these tables, that to complete this sew
srage It would require 81 ,056, ,565.S7. A. To
complete the contracts now In force on account
,f the main sewerage.
Q. You would put the whole amount at |
sbout So, 900 ,000i A. I should say about three |
md half millions of dollars.
@. The aggregate of the accounts audited, |
Ind the estimate made to complete. the sewers |
which are under contract, would be $2,6S3,- |
1854 A. About 81, zoe, 600.
Q. You do not think that more than that |
Tould be required to complete the sewerage |