National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-03-24

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correct =. Originally ths time Vas taksn Ia
me, = matter ofeoayenience, 70 this property
tnee taffeFwafdo eoavsyDdt 10 Mr. Kllbouru: md
wnen the peopee uae came Il was an couveyed
70 hin. But think the object Of Mr.. Chriaty
va @ 80 back 70 The beginning Of that, and
Representative wilson. This property has N
been conveyed out Of youi A. An been con
Q. To whonf "A. Ieouyeyed Il 70 Mr.. KIN.
boufn d The deed here. u - :
9: Have you any property that you hold q
truseee other than that which b held for Hin.
ter.] -
Representative Wilson. don't see what VA
the occasion for your being 20 exceedingly nice
about this thing. - ssi'..s
Witness. mlsapprshendsd Mr.. lChristy, OF
theeommittee, or else they misapprehended me.
BY Senator Stewart: would like to have
right there, II you can give them, the numbers
Of the blocks in which kessrs. Sunderland and
Hillyer are interested.
Witness. ] viii begin IN the order: There ID
block 66, 81, Is, Cd, 0s, ca. lis. 1H. iSS. Isl.
15s, 1855, 156, is, 17s, Ia; that Is ali.
q. That =, the portion marked blue in these
blocks you hohi A. The portion marked blue
in these blocks e what hold for Sunderland
and Hllysr, and Al the property that I hold y
b. the Chairman. Q. Tha. Is stirl in your
name . trusteei A. That Is still In my name
a. trustee.
Senator Stewart. We might ind out where
that Other property.is; do you know the por-
ton that Is held BY Mr.. Kilbourn, As trusted
Representative Wilson. Why not get that
from Mr.. Knbourni
Witness. That you can fet from Mr.. Kn-
bourn; would not be positive about that.
The Chairman. Mr.. Christy, 60 on with Mr..
Latts. ~
By Mr.. Christy. Q. understood You to say
In your examination before the adjournment,
that there was but one beneficiary in the prop
erty that you hold, - trustee, purchased from
w. w. Rapley; was that statement correct! A.
Yes, sir; you are now asking about the prop
erty which have conveyed. ~.
Q. w. W. Rapleyl A. Yes, STR.
Q. Who was that beneficiary A. Does the
committee desire me to answer as to what
property conveyed two years agoa
Q. am directing and combining your exam
tee, that you had purchased from Mr.. Rapley.
By the Chairman. Q. L. that property now
standing In your own namei A. Il does not.
Q. Has It been conveyed by you! A. yes,
sir.
By Mr.. Christy. Q. To whomi A.. Con
vcyed BY me to Hailet Kilbourn, trustee.
By the Chairman. Q. Hallet Kilbourn, or
Hallet Ktlbourn, trusteei A. Hallet Klbourn,
By Mr.. chrissy. Q. Who was the bene-
aciaryf
By the Chairman. Q. Let me see III under
stand you, Mr.. Latts. You had formerly prop
erty in your name Is trusteei A. yes. Sir.
Q. Which some time ago you conveyed to
Hallett Kilbourn, - trusteea A. Yes, Sir; in
October, 1879, think.
The Chairman. Now, do you wish, Mr..
originally pufchased that property.
Mr.. Christy. Yes, sir; that is the question
Senator Stewart. What ID the date Of that,
The Chairman. The purchase Of Rapley!
Witness. September g, 1871.
By the Chairman: Q. Purchased from Rap.
leyi A. Yes, sir.
Q. That IL the question you decline to an
swer. A. That Il the question decline to an
swer. -s4
Q. You still decline. A. still decline.
Mr.. Christy. I want It to appear distinctly
that that particular property was conveyed to
Hallett Kilbourn by James NJ. Lstta, trustee,
BY deed dated October Q, 1872.
By the Chairman: 9. Have you Q memor-
andum of the date when you conveyed to Mr..
Kilbourni A. have not.
By Representative W1son: @. want to
ask him q question or two. How long did
that conveyed to Mr.. Kpbourni
9. Yes. A. The purchases were begun In
September, 1871. No earlier than that. The
first purchase In the list, September %, 1871.
BY Mr.. Christy: Q. That 10 the Rspley pur-
chased A. That 10 the Rapley purchase. The
Edward Young purchase was July IS, 1871.
The Burchell purchase was July IS, 1871.
The Burdette purchase was July IS, 1871. The
Stutx purchase was July -, 1871. The Ohm
stead purchase was December Q, 1871.
Representative Hamilton. In connection with
this think he had better state the numbers.
Mr.. Christy. I was goingto suggest, likewise
that furnished to James NJ. Latta, on Satur-
day, . list corresponding to the list upon which
examined him, and II he will answer from
that list it will avoid any confusion; we can fol-
low him with much more ease and accuracy.
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the property purchased and conveyed to Mr..
Killbourn from that purchased for Sunder-
land and Hillyer.
By Mr.. Christy: Q. Are you answering now
in regard to the property that you conveyed to
Mr.. Kilbourn alones A. Yes, sir.
9. Your answer now is confined to thatl A..
Yes, SIR; confined to that.
Mr.. Christy. Very well, I understand Il now.
By the Chairman. Q. Go on and state all
these purchased A. The purchase from Rap
ley was in square s0S. The purchase from
Madison was July 70, 1871. The purchase
from Parker was July IS, 1872. There was an
additional purchase, which was not down in
this list, which desire to state, because
want to state the whole of It. The was an ad-
ditional purchase 10 al; the date have not
July, 1879.
By Representative Wilson. @. What Il the
aggregate amount Of all these purchases! A.
The aggregate amount of those purchases, If
you Will put the figures there and add them,
By the Chairman. Q. For the Rapley pur-
chased A. Altogether al was SIS $50. That
was the entire aggregate Of the purchase.
Representative Wilson. Eighty seven thou
sand, seven hundred and forty -six dollars and
seventy one centsl
By Senator Stewart: That Il the aggregate
Of the purchases in Kilbourn's namel A. The
aggregate purchases that were conveyed to me,
and then in October, Il think Il was, } 1877, con-
veyed to Mr.. Kilbourn.
By Representative Wilson: When was It you
made this conveyance to Mr.. Kilbournl
The Chairman. October, he says, 1872.
Q. Did you convey the whole Of this property
to Mr.. Kilbournl a. The whole of it.
Q. In one deedl In one deed.
Q. For what consideration A. For one dol
lar, think II was.
9. 1t was just simply, then, taking the trus-
teeship from you to Kilbourpa A. That was it.
Q. At the time that yod made this purchase
was there an understanding between you and
Kilbourn, or between you and anybody else,
that this trusteeship was to be changed from
you to hint A. There was:
Q. With whom was that understanding had :
A. With Mr.. Kilbourn.
@. With whom elsei A. Nobody else.
9. Then were you simply acting as the agent
Of Mr.. Kilbourn In making these new pur-
chasesi A. It arose partly from matter of
convenience. The nrSt purchase made, Mr..
Kilbourn was absent; when the deeds were
drawn he was going to be atsent. The last
purchases were while he was In Europe. I'm
mediately upon his return from Europe and
my return from the West made conveyance
to him Of all the property held ~ trustee.
Q. Why was not this property conveyed to
Kilbourn & Latta, - trusteesi A. Because