The New York herald., 1874-07-30
THE SITUATION YESTERDAY.

IdE 01IUAI1ON YESTERDAY.
The relations Of the parties In the great scandal
case remain unchanged. or course the arrest OF
Theodore Tllton, on charge or libel against Mr.
Beecher, was the chief topic Of conversation and
the question was asked upon all sides, 'sWho is
this man Gaynor, who prefers the complaint Pn
Very few persons were able to answer that CO.
nundrum. The general sentiment was however
in strict accord with the HERALD's opnion-I e.
that he Is ''an unknown man, apparently anxious
to lift himself from the obscurity in which he has
hitherto been compelled to llve and willing to
obtain even questionable notoriety at the ex-
pense OF other peoples sins and misfortunes.u
While tho majority Of people Of note with whom
the reporter conversed yesterday are In
favor Of having the case ventilated before
properly constituted legal tribunal
there was not one man met who approved the first
step taken in that direction by an entire stranger
to the parties involved In the scandal. The plea
that the move is made crafty prurient curiosity
Is an inexcusable one in the minds OF fairly dis
posed and honorable citizens, and the opinion pre-
vailed that the prosecution in its present form
would fail. Many expressed the conviction that
the arrest was by Mr.. Tilton's procurarion. There
was a report current to the effect that Mr.. Tilton
in an interview with Mr. Winslow, District Attor-
ney OF Kings county, yesterday. asked that official
to indlct him. This request could not we'll be COM
piled witn however for the very excellent reason
that there is no Grand Jury in session, nor will
there be until the 18th OF September. Patience
is virtue, and Mr.. Tslton Will there
fore be compelled to exercise that
trait, no matter how averse it may
be to his inclination. The statement OF Mr.. Frank
b. Carpenter, the artist, and friend OF Messrs.
Tilton, Beecher and Mouton, formed very large
al 10 WI m ia mn Qttvav
not favorable to the Plymouth church side Of the
question. despite the professed friendship of Mr..
point OF his story dwelt upon was that IN which
he say that the first absolute conviction he had
Mrs. Tllton and Mr.. Beecher was in December,
1872, or January. 1873. when she wrote '.On cer-
vile to him. with all that Is implied in this re-
latlon." Then again. he states that he saw Mr..
Iton place the writing IN question in Rey DR..
hull story, concluded, upon these proofs, that
criminal relations had existed between Mr.
Beecher and Mrs: Thton. 1t was regarded as
strong point in Tllton's favor The assertion that
there was no truth In the story OF the alleged
attempt on Theodore Tiltons part to b!ackmail
Mr.. Bowen on leaving the Independent inasmuch
as the Justice OF his claim for the six months
salary was passed upon by highly respectable gen
tiemen ana decided in his avor. The statement
That Mr.; Frank Monlton would scorn to shield
Henry Ward Beecher, "mutual friend, though he
is, by wronging Titon, appears to gain credence
III certain quarters, when the matter was dis
cussed in ali its bearings. Mrs. Tlton's denial Of
ment OF any such improper Overtures as the one
cited the part of Mr.. Beecher had the effect OF
in her veracity. It was conceded upon all sides
that there was a strong resemblance or reality
that Mr. ' When he
so boldly public Investigation knew 1ull well
that Mrs. Tilton would sustain him IN the DENIAL
OF criminal relationship or any improper PROPOSE
tion on his part.
mo matter what may be said or written on
the subject" said~ a responsible and respected
citizen, an nv view or the case, and In Justice
and equity Beecher has the winning cards. Sup
pose that the case comes before the courts Mrs Til
Mr. Beecher has never made any improper ad-
vances to her and there has been nothing In all
their relationship, which has extended over very
pupil pupil Of his-that ought not to exist between
cuser to do in the premises Her sworn tes-
timony cannot be impeached and VINO Will gain
Beyecher 'G about 1e Wncs 50 much % MS
said. | have confidence in the ability
na Of s aSat S ssesSsp p
has written to Frank Mouton, who is stopping at
Narragansett Pier, urging him to go before the
committee and exhibit all he knows In reference
to the matter OF controversy now pending. am
of the opinion that it Is Mr. 1iton VINO is averse
TO Moulton,s telling all he knows of this scandal
THE INVESTIGATING coMMIrTEE.
1t Is claimed that the evidence taken before the
Plymouth church investigating committee on
Tuesday evening was very damaging to Mr.. I'll
ton, the chiel witness being lady, whose name
Horace B. C!ann, when questioned as to the in
st cation of the arrest Of TIlt0n, said that he did
not believe that the friends of Mr.. Beecheg had
anything whatever to do with the arrest of Tllton.
The committee would not be influenced In the
slightest degree by the matter being brought be-
lore the court, but would continue their eXamina-
tion OF witnesses. No definite time would be stated
for the conclusion OF their labors. Henry M.
Cleveland was very cautious, declining to speak
that the committee had no more to do
IMAM In the moon" Henry w. sage was of the
opinion that Mr.. Tlton caused the arrest himself.
The action OF the courts would nave no effect on
the work OF the committee one way or the other.
They would carry on their labors TO satisfactory
conclusion and report the result to the church.
Beecher's friends were innocent Of ColusiOn In the
GaynOr proceedings.
The sexton OF Plymouth church, Mr.. II. s. Weld,
said tlat 1t was only necessary to compare the liie
and character OF Mr.. Beecher and Mrs. 1iton with
the character OF MIR. Theodore riton, In order to
arrive at verdict in favor OF the pastor and the
lady nameds One OF the fair members OF the n0ck
had told him that she would Tor her part come to
Plymouth church to hear Mr. Beecher preach as
long as he might see fit TO occupy the pulpit.
equity or innocent" said the sexton, "the pastor
has done every one good that has listened to him."
Bets were made in many quarters that Mr..
Beecher would never again occupy the pulpit IN
Plymouth church, and there were a few takers.
The committee held session In the forenoon and
revised the testimony taken the evening previous.
WAS THE ARREST A CONSPIRACY?
reporter cOnversed with Mr.. Tracy yesterday
touching the arrest Of Tton and the possibility OF
conspiracy in the premises. Mr.. Tracy said, ''lt
DcaTS on ltS lace
EVERY EVIDENCE OF C0LLUsION.o
"Well, now, In tins preliminary examination mas mas
M0ulton and whomsOever he pleasesr'
"Yesr
"And can he not compel their attendance?"
"1hat is another thing. don't believe Mr..
Beecher or ANYBODY else could be forced to testify
In such case it is very strange thing indeed
If man can complain OF himself and prosecute
himself In this way and compel the attendance oI
witnesscs.o
"iiut suppose the Justice takes the view OF the
case that there Is no colusion and allows the eX-
ANIMATION TO proceed Y'
"lt Is the business OF the Justice to take cog
nzancc OF The TACT OF couSion aud to dismiss tue
case at once. lie Is to know whether or not the
District Attorney or his representative Is prosecut-
ing Tilton or not.n
"Yes, but suppose he says not ?n