National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-03-24

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y Sssaier TAvnss: q. Leaving on. A.
jna cnftrsay Tie Sunderland and HiIiyer mr.
ehesss, wesc IT, othse purchases made. by you.
| e00 aegregatinx so0e eighty odd Thousand
6elIsss, al made fbr the same persoa Or per-
cons, Of were they msde s0ms for one person
end some for anothers A. All for the on
person.
Q. For one person. or moro than ono, A
d tho Chairmsn: Q. You decline to sta,
Mr.. Christy, possibly a explanstion Of what I
may have aid Saturday, and you have 90:
that In your mind, Nat vssy conaidsr sblr
portion Of this property pureAased for Sander-
lana and Htllyer was purchased whoa ehey
were not here; and Dentto0ed tbs fast tAae
Idrew fsr tho nossy a Calibenis, and stnl
continue to do %; and I presume that was bow
you came 70 get thefmPre.saoa that you az:
By eeeatog Thannan. want % put ~
direct QUESTION to yo9 Was not that persoa
for whom you ma1e those purchases, Hallet
Kilbourni A. I think must declins 70
answer. ,....s,.s.. -, ~ 80. =.
M. Harrington, We ala not hear the quss-
seaasor Thurnsn. He said thas allthsse pur-
eh.ses, a4rss.si.g eighty edo sAc.s.a
and Hiilysr purchases, were nsde lbe oee snd
the same person; that be answered in responee
to nv nrst question. He was then asked BY
the chairman whether he declined to give the
name Of the person; he says he did; I then
asked him the question; "Was not that pers0a
Hailet Knbournp and he declines to answer
the question.
The Chairman. Have you snything more.
Mr.. Christy. Not with this witness.
Tia Chairman Call your next witness.
The Wines retired ffom thu sta2d and In .
momout or 90 returned and stated: have con-
sented to answer. Il was made for Hailet Kill
-Bv senator Stewart: O. And WHO his bone
Hciaries were you do not knowi A. No, sir; I
did not propose 10 tell whasI have unless had
received consent Of the party to do 90.
O, Then you have told all you know about
III A. Yes Or; that d all know about IT,
The Chairman. Mr.. Latta, II Ne wish you
again we will send for you.
Senator Thurman. o, be can b discharged
Tho Chairman. Yes; unless we send for you
again. p
Mr.. Christy. Oue moment, Mr.. Latta. 80
Mr.. Harrington. Mr.. Christy Il . little msd
just now. AXIS.
Mr.. Christy. o, no; am not mad.
Q. In these purchases for Hallet Kilboufn
made at times portion Of them during bis
absence-from whom did you get the money!
A. l got II by an order from him on my own
check from either j. Cooke & Co., or the First
National Bank. have forgotten now which.
@. What amount did you git! A. I could not
tell without reference. I should say, though,
something IN the neighborhoo0d Of SIX thousand
dollars. -
Q. That was fund kept separate and dis
tinct from the moneys belonging to the hrmf
A. o, yes, sir. Whatever moneys he gave fr
purchases were given at the time Of the pur-
chases II he were there. II he were going to
be absent, he left orders that . check of mine
drawn there should be honored for such . sum-
Q. Upon which one of these banksi A. 1
am not certain which It was do not remem-
Der.
Q. Where did he keep his bank account at
that time; mean his account Of this descrip-
ton? A. That could not say.
Q. Where did he deposit this amount Of
$25, 900 received from j. Cooke s. Co., or
Henry D. Cookei A. That could net say.
Q. Have you any knowledge of its payment
| to him! A. None in the world. said yester-
had heard.
Q. How advanced you do not knowi A. No,
sir; knew nothing about It.
Q. You drew thoee checks in what capacityf
| A. drew them in the capacity Of trustee,
| think; do not remember.
Q. As trustee for whoml A. For Hallet
Kilbourn, trustee.
q. Were those checks returned to you, A. I
do not remember. They probably were returned
to him.
z. Did you make q settlement of your &C
count with him after his returnl A. Oh, no;
they were charged up to him, presume.
Q. Oh, you were acting for him. How did
you arrange your account between Hallet Kill
bOurn and YOURSELF A. If you can arrange Q
bank account you can understand my answer.
Mr.. Christy. Very well.
A. If you give me authority to draw .
check against your account, and take mo
into the cashier of the bank, or give me a note,
or anything else, and draw a check in con-
formity with your Instructions, that check 10
charged up to you and not to me.
Mr.. Christy. Certainly. That understand.
A. Therefore there is no settlement between
you and me.
q. lie did not take you into the bank, but
he gave you written authority to draw! A. I
do not know how that was. could not state
that, because 1t has been q long while ago.
q. What particular property did you pur-
chase with the moneys that you drew upon
your written authority from Hallet Kilbourna
A. That was the property in 2f2 and al.
By Senator Stewart: Q. Name where that is.
A. On the Thirteenth street square.
Q. What amount did you receive from Hal
let Kilbourn in the aggregate to make these
purchases With A. That could not say.
@. Did you receive more than one written
authority from hint A. If ever received
any written authority, or said did, am mis-
taken in my testimony.
@. What authority did you receive, and fin
what formi A. I do not remember, say.
Q. He did not 60 with you to the bankl A.
That you assert. !!
and did not 90 with youi A. He was absent in
Europe at the time of the purchase. If he had
been present there would have been no neces-
sity for any authority.
Q. Very well. Now, I'm which form did he
give you the authority A. have answered
that question.
Senator Thurman. Mr.. Christy, this testi-
mony may be material, may have some bearing
upon this investigation, but It "a not very
obvious, and the best way 10 to put some Limit
to the inquiry.
Witness. I submit to the committee whether
have not answered that question three timcs
already
Senator Thurman. Yes, sir; I understand
you to have answered. Besides, there must b
some limit to this examination. do not
exactly see whether the fact that he was
authorized to draw . check or not makes any
material difference.
Mr.. Mcrrick. Whatever limit the committee
prescribe We shall be happy to conform to.
Mr.. Christy. understood the witness to say
he had received authority in writing. After-
ward he corrected that.
The Chairman. Is It material as to how he
received III He said the purchase was for Hal
let Kilbourn. What more do you wantl
Mr.. Christy. wanted to ascertain where
Hallet Kilbourne kept his account.
The Chairman. Ascertain that from Mr..
Kilbourne.
Mr.. Ehristy. That he was unable to reply to.
I had finished the examination, however.
By Judge Black; Q. Do you know Of any
conspiracy between the Board of Public Works
and the persons for whom you were acting
that this property, or any property ever puf-
chased by you for them, should be Improved at
the general expense of the District for the pur-
pose Of appreciating that property A. Insvsr
heard Of any such thing.
@. Were these purchases made in further
snce Of any agreement or understanding to
that enectl A. Not that ever heard of.
@. With the Board Of Public Worksl A.
Not that ever heard of.
TESTIMONY OF HALLBr KMBoURN.
Hallet Kpbourn sworn.
Examined BY Mr.. Christv: Q. You reside in
this cityi A. Yes, cir.
Q. And are you the gentleman referred to by
Mr.. Latta ~ HIS partneri A. Yes, sir.
Q. You may state, Mr.. Kilbourn, what prop
erty you purchased In the northwestern part
Of the city Of Washington.