Watertown republican. [volume] (Watertown, Wis.) 1860-1906, 1874-08-05

= great deal of Miss Anthony, of Mrs.
Bullard and all those ladies. I was
very intimate with her before Mrs.
Woodhull's thunderbolt. At the time
Of our first knowledge of the affair,
Mr.. Wilkinson heard of it. He be-
sought the ladies not to make it public
To have it was not a matter of money.
He was a stakeholder in Plymouth
Church, in The Christian Union and
'The Life of Christ. Now the de-
struction of Mr.. Beecher would be
the destruction of all these. AS Mr..
| Wilkinson expressed it, "he would
knock the life of Christ higher than
kite" Hence his concern in keeping
the matter secret.
CALL ON SUSAN.
ROCHESTER, N. Y, July 27.-A re-
porter called at Miss Anthony's resi-
dence this evening, and learned she
was absent from the city on lecturing
tour. Information was given by her
relatives that she would probably not
testify ir the Beecher-TiIton scandal.
unless compelled to do so by legal
process.
FRANK D. CARPENTER INTERVIEWED.
NEW YORK., July 26.-The Brooklyn
Argus, to day, prints part of an IN
tervlew with E. 3. Carpenter, on the
subject of the Beecher scandal. Car
penter said he was first brought active
ly in the case by Mr.. Beecher. In
May, 1878, Mr.. Beecher sent for Car
penter, wishing him to come immed1-
ately to Brooklyn. Beecher had
learned that Henry G. Bowen had re-
asserted to Carpenter the charges,
which he had formerly made to Tilton,
against Beecher, and which he had
withdrawn in the "tripartite agree
ment," and that Bowen had said in the
presence OF Mr.. E. D. Holton, of Mil,
Aee, and Carpenter, that he did not
wish them to understand that he had
made retraction. Beecher wished
Carpenter to confront Bowen
on these points. It was also
said that the 9 tripartite covenant y
was to be made public. He went to
Moulton's house. Beecher was not
there, but Moulton said he wished Mr..
Carpenter to go to Bowens residence
with Mr.. Clahin and Mr.. Moulton.
They went, and Carpenter repeated, in
the presence of Messrs. Bowen. Clafin
and Moulton, the statements made by
Bowen to himself concerning Beecher.
Bowen admitted all, and Clafin ex-
pressed his establishment that Bowen
should have told these things after
signing the covenant. Clafin was the
! person who induced Bowen to sign the
covenant. Bowen said he protested
against making the agreement public.
| Carpenter said to Bowen that if the
statements were untrue he should make
the most unqualified public denial, but
if true. he should stand by them.
Bowen had said to Carpenter that Mr..
Beecher had made confession to him
on his knees. Mr.. Tilton and Mr..
Moulton had been told by Beecher that
this was lie. Carpenter said to Mr..
Bowen, S There is a direct lie between
you and Mr.. Beecher, and, for one, [
want to know the truth"
Mr.. Clafin thought Beecher ought to
be present at this interview, and Moui-
ton went to his house for him, but did
not find him. Bowen expressed his
willingness to meet Beecher next day,
and Clafin agreed to arrange the inter
view. A few days afterwards Carpen-
ter saw Clafin, who told him what
Beecher had said: "There isn't force
| enough in Brooklyn to draw me into an
| interview with FL. @. Bowen" Carpen-
ter says in his business relations with
Bowen they had frequent converse.
tions regarding his difficulty with
Beecher. Bowen said Beecher's friends
wanted him to sign a sweeping docu-
ment declaring his charges against
Beecher untrue. He refused. Clafin
then urged him at last to sign a paper
Withdrawing the charges, and he con
scented.
The interviewer here inserts the fol-
lowing note:
Mr.. Carpenter here repeated to the
writer the substance of the conversa-
ton which took place between Beecher
and himself on Sunday, June l, 1873,
after the service at Plymouth Church.
We can only say the statements which
Mr.. Carpenter says Mr. Beecher made
that evening are. If true, of the utmost
significance and Importance. Mr.. Car
penter declares that he will not make
public his conversation unless he is
called upon before proper tribunal.
u "faS utAIluB Gu1S 1uLeIVIGW GudG
Beecher told Carpenter that in case
Theodore Tllton would make certain
disavowals he would share his fame
and fortune with him, and pour IN
subscribers to the Golden Age by the
thousands. The interview which Mr..
Carpenter speaks of occurred on the
evening of the same day when Beecher
wrote his touching letter dated Sun
day, June 1, 1873. Great significance
attaches to Carpenter statement, from
tie fact that Beecher7s card generating
Tllton from being his slanderer and
defamer, was published the next day,
June 2, 1878.
Carpenter says that Tilton had no
vindlctive feelings against Beecher, and
tried hard, before publishing the letter
to DR.. Bacon, to find some means by
which Beecher should free him from
the imputatlons cast upon him by DR..
Bacon. Before he decided to publish
the letter, DR.. Bacon said to a friend
of Carpenter: elf MIR. Tilton pub
fishes that letter. and Plymouth Chnrch