New-York tribune., 1874-12-22

script DIR. johnson know perfectly well would nufice
that at once and would ask why 1t and therefore
he told me himself.
q When you were informed that these duplicate, OF
order. in place Of those payable to the order Of NJ
stockwell what did You do. II anythlngf A. asked
Mr. bellows why 1t had been done, and he told mo II vas
because Mr.. sockwell going OF town that day
and would not be there to indorse them and snppsed
satisfied me- and thought nothing more about IT, and.
s az Of fact. Mr. stOckwe absent from tho
once during the whOc time that was there thut day
"nd ! did not see him until the next day.
V DO Jou say that the regular check OF the Company
mas ie printed nnmcrs spOnding to the printed
numbers on the stubsf A. Vs. Sir. invariably; both
numbers would not appear r." on amy cn"ck Of the COM
pany' In the ordinary cour. Of business, unless the
appeho TO destroy tho nunOer or for some reason OF
@ Then this check. with manuscript number frefer
rinS TO one OF the six checks heretofore denof docs
nor III INTO the place where the corresponding nnmncr IL
taken from dierent place IL does not belong to that
pace IN the book Of blank checks.
" HOW DO you know tia5 to be 80 II you have not
sccm nc stub bookf A. am only sprakng rs to what
would happn in the usual course ~ The Companys bus
OF OF the check books aud made ont the checks rrlt
me absence OF the Treasurer. while was in the Now
,,Q Do you know OF firm Of tho name Of Harriet &
N%ye' u,, A. No. SIR I know there was such Iirm.
representation firm Of sock-brOkors New. York.
~ Know nohins OF them or about thr business except
p' common report.
q Have yoa ever had any business with themi A.
q Is there any reason why check payahlo to your
orIor and ,doscd ty you should he charged to tnat
nrn A. No reason that know ANYTHING Of; should
tbnk there was every reason why It should not.
II any such thing az that ~ been done has 1t been
bu, entirely without nv knowcdrc the first informa.
ton o II that ave reccivcdis this to-day. except by
rnmor which saw yesterday in the newspapers.
HOW THE MONEY WAS DRAWN FROM TIE BANK.
q. When you drew this money from the bank, iu two
or thrco days after you deposited the checks what kind
OF money did take tell the si6o OF the bills
a. doht think that drew any Of that money IA cur
amount.
q In what manner did You draw this s75O,oOo from
W ,H1 American Exchange Banki a. Mostly III tho form
a. Payable to somboiy elsc's orderf A. Some OF
Mrm payable to somobody clscs order and some to
nv own order ana indDrsed In blauI.
l. o. Have Won the stubs OI those cucck1? A. think
no. don't know. but thnk not; looked for then
tno last time was III San Fraucsoo, aud could not
q. Hive you any memoranda OF those checks A.
Can you tell the siza OF lhemi A. can when sec
nr 'vnK ii account tnat IS the only waJ can toll
,Q Wlii the accounts o the American Exchange Bank
disclose how that money WIS drawnl A. / thnk they
WIN slnpy give tho amounts; il any money paid ~
cIsh ovrr The counter the accluat, IN tho bank Will
show IT, think, though can't speak positively IA to
tha' ;, nMt ,hey wlil snow Tho amount and tue date
iEErcSa'ef A. They VIII show the several items Ia de-
ta The usual conrs OF bank in N'w-fork In k@cp"9
an account IS TO furnish s Customer with paS'-"ooF.
coianin: memoranda OF every deposit which he makes
to his credit and now aud then ihls pasSbook Is s'nt TO
tho bank aud w>llIcn up" 50 that he ~ advised OF the
condition OF his account. Every cuiiy to his 'nbit or
crcult Is made In detail
cation nf nam ~. o Iiy Just of amo
AT his point Mr.. Irwin informed the Committee that
was suspended until Friday hr ISh. at 1880 a. Mr..
IRWIN nrro submitted u nnmbcr OF documcnts III Goa.
trtdciion OF Russell SaEe'a statement that lie had
Irwin arrested
THIRD DAY CT IIwIS'S EXAMINATION.
On FRIDAY. De. IL. 1874, tho examination Of Irwin
continued IA ltlOws:
BY the CharinanQ. Hnvo yon your ohcck.lo TX which
YOU -rd IN cnccains money ont OF the American TX
A.. -
q Where islt' A. looked tor it thc last time
onrr check b" ks. prior To- ho orgz"n of" Of the r m
of H. L. IRWIN Il Co.. In January, 1874.
q what WAS III" last thing you dii with II A. put
II away somcwhere-it aud my other old chccks all to-
gethrr.
dOiI' think, art tnat checks dra
check-DoOks AZ all; think they were drawn on loose
checks or els" FROM tonpoIary checkhooh-l cInnot
under The IMPRESSION when wLs l1okiug for the check
book that those cnrcKS were drawn from book
o. Yon mean TO sfatc then that you don't think tho
c' cks whrn clccRcd IN am nnt ont OF the American
think currk> tne bulk OF II not, although nj
tue ne looked ior the check b,oks was under thc
impression that they had b,en.
q what leads ou now To think that they
drisnl A.. SIMPLY tnat | have thought the matter
am, can rccoect some circumstances more clearly
q u. YOU think that any part Of !. was drawn from
O. ABOUT hOw mach a. An IncVns, ierible amount.
ir."iar c!sck Haoi w,Gi not ,x.coI somewhere be-
tween s50.ON and Slo0ooj-rompararIyriy small items
T.
book M 70 t.an the otncr' After got back to Su
francisco. conr5 resumed NY regular chtckaocis
Of ''rirS course re refer to the s75ooJo Ali
my cheeks mp to about the 25a %. not, Of May
drawn from eh"r Temporary or regular chc'k'book,
ani tue only reason why lhose chcck' rs nearly rs
can remember. were not, WAS tnat did not have
regular Hith me. was quite Ill at that time, and
Was not able to unm"k my things. .,,..,.
O. Was the portion of the s75J0O. which You say was
drawn from a regular chcrk-Jook. the balance which
left toyour crcdi' when yon ctaihcd To California
o. All except that balance had been previously drawn
out lrrc:nar cccks! A. DON'T say irregular checks
O. Have ;uosc checks bcrn returned 10 yOui A. YES,
q n,yS .;, YOU got 'Aem' A. No. Sir have not got
g. Were are thcyl A. They are destroyed.
q When were tnev Destroyed A. TIry were de-
uycd in August 1875; thinK iist before left san
FIancnco; they were DESTROYED IN san Franc,,co
O. When they returned 10 you at SIN FfInciscoi
a. Some OF them returned to me before got to
San Francisco. and when the transaction. w,re larse
tey were returned few days. aS To adjust the
balance Of cunt Th" hrst ca ckS were returned 10
me din rent periods III san Francisco until finally
closed my account with the American Exchange Bank
before leaving for England.
them A. | can't answer that except by stating the
dato when think destroyed tbrnI think can
seeiug wnrn they sent 10 m. l observe
from the current jnst received by ME from
the American Exchange Bank that they returned
following dates About May o. 1872, ten Vouchers for
about s'sooDO at tue same ,nt octween M M Nay 81 ANA ana
between Oct. aud Ott. -, 1871? Il vOuchers-aDout
$4,000
O. The returned checks have been trstifying abOnt
were from the $joo0i A. Sone oi thcm thcy also n'
cllulcd moucys UeuI .iuG to personally, AMI not in
any way connected Win the subject matter VI this ln
quiry. . IA,
Exchange Biuk1 A Yes Sir.
q lave any objection to showing It to @ the Com
dencc ultimately II the COnittee wish to have II, but II
includes Tg3 which nave moth
ing to do with this matter In order that the Committee
might be thoroughly satisfied nave sent ior my account
from the end down tOihe end Of 1872. reserve
of course NV rlgut dc, line TO put these accounts III
evidence after showing them 10 the Committee, except
in 81 far as they relate to the su!Jecmattcr VI thus
inquiry . Ia.
o. Wlll YOU cause to nc taken from this account with
th American a A. ~ Bank much of IL the