The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1874-03-14
TIE CROTOd CRUSADE.
The Permanence Of the Move
ment in the West.
PROSPECTS III THE EAST.
How The Work Should be Carried
On In New York.
DIR. ICiO Lewis On the
Sjitua ton.
PROSPECTS III THE EAST.
ENTHUSIASTIC MEETING LAST MIGHT.

a clear ana succinct statement OF the present
aspect OF the temperance movement In the West
in all its bearings, reporter was yesterday de-
tailed interview DR.. Dio Lewis upon the subject
as also to obtain his ideas upon the probability OF
succ ass attending similar crusade in the Eastern
states, out more particularly to ascertain his
views upon the practicabillty OF similar tactics
meeting with encouraging results in New York and
other large cities. DR.. Lewis has for time
taken q leading part in the ONO whisKey war, and,
in fact is generally acknowledged to be the chief
of its leaders. Therefore his views and opinions
upon the great question agitatng the whole
Continent may be considered Of value at the pres
ent iuncture What his ideas are will be found IN
the following report Of the conversation had yes
terday between MIN and the HERALD reporter.
WILL THE OHIO MOVEMENT LAsTf
The first questions addressed to the Doctor by
the reporter were the f0lowlng:-
Observation-Disclosures will you tell me your opinion
with regard 10 the permanency Of the results OBJ
tanned by the temperance movement in Ohio and
other Western StatesS
DR.. Lewis think it is the first movement
promising to be permanent, and think 1t so prom
lses for the following reasons:-
Fi7st-The immense revolution in the social Gus
toms OF the country, known as the Washingtonan
movement which represented the rising InteIi-
gence and moral sentiment OF the country, but
which receded under the influence or premature
legislation, Is now iuliy ripe and ready for the
second and greater forward movement. During
the last two or three years the indications OF i'm
patience and slumberng resolution have ap-
peared In many forms. Clearly the hour has struck
temperance.
WOMEN DISCOVERING THEIR POWERS
SecOnd-lt is In the hands OF women. who are not
entangled IN business or politics, and who, besides
have always been the greatest sufferers by tue
rum rac Women nave lust ound out Their
accomplish more III pulling down dramshops In a
month than men have accomplished in forty years.
AN ILLUSTRATION.
This CONSCIOUSNESS or power is the last thing in
the world the women are likely to forget. AS a
plain mechanic who should, after laboring OBJ
securely, unnotlced and unknown for thirty years.
but who at some public meeting springs to his feet
under sudden inspiration and makes grand
speech which eectrifes every hearer, is no more
likely to forget his own name than the conscious
ness OF this new found power, so the women, every
this mechanic, are sure to remember as long as
there Is any need Tor 1t, this moral force. in the
exercise OF which they shut up all these Of
Tnd,u-The universal instincts Of men will com.
pei them to stand by the victories achieved by
these women.
WILL 1T SPREAD FURTHER
REPoRrER-ln your opinion, Is the present cru
SADIE likely to spread through the entire West with
similar results?
DR.. LEwIs-Already it has spread in Indiana, Hi.
nois, Nebraska, Kansas and Tennessee, and 1t fur.
ther seems to bid fair to achieve success in Massa-
cnuSettS and Vermont
THE PROSPECTS IN THE EAST
REP0RTER-DOct0r, what Is your idea with re-
gard to the probability Of the present tempe rance
wave overrunniny the Eastern StatesY Is any
grand result expected to come from campaign in
that section?
Dr. LEwIs-I think it will achieve finally great
success In the East but the lack OF religious pas
sion among the people OF New England will make
the movement there comparatively slow. The
present is strictly religious movement, and Is not
likely therefore, where the people are speculative,
critical and cold to succeed so well but the open
the magnificent meeting at Worcester are very
promising.
IT Is RELIGIOUS REVIVAL
REP0RTER-DO you LOOK upon the pr esent move.
menJ In the light OF religious revival or as
SIMPLY an uprising against incompetence
DR.. LEWIS-.t Is a religious revival having the
closing Of the dramshops merely as an incident by
the way. The shutting up OF the liquor saloons,
however, is not one-tenth part oil the good that
Will come OF the work. This is the first great re-
Iglous revival ever known in tins country having
distinct tangible object, and is therefore, the nrst
one likely TO retain all IL gains
HOW LIQUOR DEALERS ARE CARED FOR.
REPokTER-Do you anticipate any attempts on
the part OF the liquor dealers who have been
closed out or on the part OF strangers to reopen
the dramshops or barroOms 2
Dr. LEwIs-Taere win be frequent attempts to
reopen the saloons; but, for the reasons already
stated. they cannot he successful. Attempts have
even now been made, but the dramshop Keepers
having signed the pledge never 10 resume the
business having been 50 kindly treated by those
engaged IN the crusade and generally helped into
other businesses-are not likely to make fur.
ther Trials. AS reading rooms, amusement halls
aud Young Mems Christian associations are
opened Immediately AFTER tue bars In a town are
closed the chances Of a resumpt ton OF rum selling
are extremely small.
THE DEVIL pEFrED
n nae women everywhere SO lar as ! know, In the
west, however, are more than wiling that the
attempt should be made, so confident are they
that t1e devil himself could not establish dram
shop IN ther midst. And then the new found
CONSCIOUSNESS OF power among them is, after ALI,
the great safety and assurance.
INrOXICANTS CANNOT BE ENTIRELY DISCONTINUED.
kEPORTEB-D0 think there will
made 70 establish private drinking places under
the guise OF clubs or Otherwise
DR.. LEwls-Without doubt. Already it has been
done, and IT Is not hoped by any reasonable human
BEING thai the Use OF intoxicating drinks is to be
closed the great evil is removed while the efforts
OF me women in circulating the personal pledge,
aaa tn w,ts combined pasa orts to Int up public sen
v1nous compounds, leave not a shadow OF
DOUBT that me private drinking ,siii be greatly
lessened. Everywhere in the West under the in
duence OF this movement, Old men testify that the
DISGRACE OF DRINKING,
which was seen and elt under the Washinptonian
phase OF the temperance cause, was sd In COM
parison with that which mas already been evoked
under the present movement.
THE PROSPECT FOR NEW YORK
REPORTER-What Is your opinion as to the proba.
bic success OF ike movement in New York and
other large cities: aud would you advise similar
tactics on the part Of the ladies proposing TO en-
gage in the work, to those adopted by their sisters
DR.. Lewis have no doubt that this movement
viii succeed IN the large cities with certain modid-
cations Of the tactics. The movement ia the West
may I've divided into Jour methods
FUst-Secret closet prayer and prayer in the
churches. This constitutes nine-tenths OIL their
WORK.
Second-Visitlng, In companies of two or three,
the owners OF real estate where liquors are sold
ana dram sellers at their homes, and pleading with
them.
. Thtrd-In companies OF from five TO ten women
they can at llquor shops during business hours and
piead with the dealers TO sign a pledge TO abandon
the frame With this method there Is introduced
sIeht or vocal prayer according 10 the exigencies
vi the occasion.
Fourth Visiting, in parties OF from fifty to one
ing.
These methods, with the exception OF the last,
are perfectly adapted to New York and other
large cities, and nave no doubt viii prove zen.
orally successful. ii not In every city resulting in
closing the dramshops 1t Will produce a revou-
tl0n In drinking usages and other bene1cent
changes which WI reach the desired result The
status OF the movement In Cincinnati IL a good
uustratlon OF what should be done In large elites.