National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-25

q. Oh, 4 reckon noti A. They loolin all the
1 pi1eon-holes until they can find one. LIDO not
say that there Il any fraud init, bat Isay that
there ID that diniculty Of the control Of, such
system. Szsa
now that letters which you have called fordur
ing the course of your testimony this morning
and papers, even AFTER they have been brought
here, can be produced so readityi A. have
not been shown Mr.. Shepherds letter to Mr.
| Oertiy about that 81 cent tagging.
BY Governor Shepherd: Q. We will have II
here If such letter Is In existence. The other
\ things you called for were brought here, were
they noti A. had to wait long enough for
this voucher.
Q. You did not wait Eve minutesi A. l have
asked for the papers on tagging. Where are
| thcyi
Mr.. Mattingly. Now, to go on with this
Evans Concrete Company pavement business,
here is the certificate of measurements signed
| by Mr.. Barney and yourself, of Connecticut
| avenue northwest, between H street and P
street circle. That 10 your signature, Is it not!
A. Yes, sir.
o. Is Mr.. Forsyth responsible for that A.
No. sir: not for this one. 1t seems that a
couple of my measurements, and most likely
you will fluid some more measurements done,
| for instance, street, which remember to
have signed; but this was for work finished
after Mr.. Forsyth had finished his work.
Mr.LMattinglY. Yes; viii show you one
after while where you have made q mistake
of 100000. - 't.-
Witness. Produce itt - -7'rss
Mr.. -Christy 1 shall ccrtalniy object to these
commentaries Of counsel as to the facts that
| he expects to prove.
Mr.. Mattingly. If Mr.. Cluss will answer the
questions plainly we viii get along.
! To the Witness. Q. Lind here charged 8, 316
| feet of circular curbing.
The Witness. will find the copy, most
likely, from which it was made from Forsyth's
voucher. think Mr.. Barney, perhaps, COM
mitted that imprudence of copying Forsyth's
voucher, which have just shown you here.
2. And then you committed the further i'm
prudence of indorsing both of them. Is that III
A. committed the inprudence of not going
upon the ground and putting straight edge
on it. Now, here is the voucher; let US COM
pare and see whether this Is copy Of For
syth's voucher OF September 10, 1878. That
Is no voucher at all; II Is LITTLE extra Dill
laying OF trimming and hauling. Inc voucher
is here, containing hundreds OF thousands of
dollars, signed by Forsyth; and here is q little
voucher. for instance, for curb hauled from e.
street wharf, curb hauled from Sixth street,
northwest. OF course it looks Ike something
big because the amount Is not carried out. You
the amounts were carried out could tell you
at once: That is bill for what7 For slSS,7 ia,
passed by Forsyth, and here Is one perhaps Tor
SlOO or Sl5O, passed by MIR. Barney and Mr..
Cluss. Where 1t the mistake OF $lOO,OOU 1t
is slO0, most likely. 49,
Q. Oh, will show It to you before long. Do
not be In . hurry. Did you not approve the
hnal voucher on which that curoing was paid
Tor, as circular curbing around P-street circle'
A. Not to the best OF my knowiedge. IIis Is
Mr.. Forsyths voucher, This is Just trimming.
Q. Then If you simply adopted Mr.. Forsyth's
voucher and signed all these vouchers merely
because they were presented TO you, there was
no use In having you there as head OF the
engineer department, was tneref A. nave
told you that this Is not q copy; thougnt II
might ....-.
9. That Is your signature, Is IL mott A. This
Is Tor hauiing, and mere Is tine oil ior tine Work.
There was an extra bill for hauling then.
@. Do you mean to say when you certified TO
this that S,sl6 feet OF circular curb were not
hauled up to Connecticut ayenue' A. IN sign.
ing this Dill there comes again our comphcated
system; I sent up 70 me .proPerIy c,erS.
he SENDS back again and says certliy nereWitn
that 50 much curb has been hauled from this
yard, and upon that certncate tnen We write
out this bill: should think could nnd Il
neie moss inkey: w, nj ns'sansi5r "nAs
sae 1see VI Snat r Uiin ,o.. II o...,
,oss ma'sinsy. yinis . TUG ION W OetoOer'
h' Ts ,u,- a.. .L,, hoo,r o,,,
goes to the 10th of October. = = :
Mr.. Hamilton. 1 think we understand that
matter, sir. n --.r-I u ----..-.- u
Mr.. Mattingly. have here two vouchers of
the Evans Concrete Company. See If those
were not signed by you. ~ .rs- ars =.
The Witness. These are two vouchers which
seem to be signed by me, and they were, no
doubt. Yes, sir, these are two vouchers Of Mr..
| Forsyth. rgrs-.r ..-s.r- -.... cd
Q. Signed by you, are they not1 A. Yes,
sir. 1t shows that among twenty vouchers,
have signed two. It certainly come In queer
/ way that did sign those. There must have
been peculiar reasons for 1t. 49,. .--.-..
@. This is voucher amounting to SCI, 000l
! A. should not wonder, sir. What is the date
! of that voucheri want to see my retained
vouchers here. ~. ~. '....'--.-
/ Mr.. Mattingly. The date Is October 8.
Here Is another one of Evans Concrete Com
| pany, in October, of IS, 900 signed by you. A.
Yes, sir, that is the elevated roadway In front
4 of Senator Bayard' and Edmund's; this had,
| to a "a eat extent, given my personal attention
to. 80.
! O. Then YOU did have something to do with
the measurements of the Eva ms Concrete Com
pany. A. Yes, to small amount. 80
| q There IA another of unwrds of sos 600
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