National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-04

lie NAIlONAL hE1
Q. That you did not want hint A. No; / did
q. Did not care what, A Did nd ssss vhstks.
he was sworn or whether he was zot'sworns ~
50 long a. he did mot divide vilk Chittcn5sn
tha .s tAss wa the Fitsi point between him M
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hiEh p9sitiea.s a. Ia that question that has'
81 mS ~ TSurn.na %. rdo not -. any rsssol
why !oa ,hosld Sos answer. 4. Yes, sir; = did.
By MT. wilsons G. Nov, should like 70 hay.
You state To the committee just what he said Z
you which gave Jon that impression A. That
Just what he SAID. You have just stated II.
O. I would b, glad 70 have yol repeat 4, .
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BY Mr., Thurman. @ Ttst h,s testimony .oais
be very damaging to people In high positioni A
Tss .t. as P Sssa Th saa
pursue pups he susisSt. simply vantsd 70 know
Sns . ssissE 81 ne rsbs Ss.s
and would not diysrge from It q all.
O. Did you think it wonId DO . matter Of any
e . d III sA q na
a. Very greatly. sir, Most decidedly, ] did thlnl
.d Pa 4. .sd GS g s. x sa; be
tee, and tastthed that he never had divided, thai
chat might be Of some sdvantage % Mr.. Chlttsn
IN a TN, way; Mr. MsCisIisn EHsW perfeetiy vel
Sinssf Dssdolyss Ms6lsiian gave s hos:
1O,ss They were 'Ig1sS y them hem and RsysSI;
there had been division, and not for Is to prove
that there had not been any. I was reading Bic
Olellan's Testimony, and knowing just how al.
here By the record evidences, ! wanted to protest.
not protect, put IwantsA TO know what the fac.
VS.. q tothe balance. In o professional sense
By Nj. WlIson: Q. Did Mr.. Kirkland. In any Of
the interviews that you had with him, say any.
thing abcutany other contract than the be6oiysr
sations with Mr., Kirkland, all that over had
with him, as have already stated here, were
latter L had passed what conceived to be the
would not permit much Conversation. II was So
clal rather than otherwise am y lawyer, aud
there are. gentlemen on this committee who are
lawyers also, and did not want TO converse upon
topics that did not interest me n 81 my client.
thought that that peculiar topic Interested my
client exceedingly, because ] supposed that, Il
Si2Ooo With Kirtiand, Il would no. only seriously
affect his case, but would seriously ruin him a. .
q. Have you met man by the name Of Moore
him at the Washington Club. 'A''
@. Where else did ron meet him. A. met
him this morning q my rpom-no, not at my room
o. Have you met him at any other point in this
cityf A. Yes, sir; ! saw him on Sunday, casually,
on the street, and had o very pleasant interview
q. Did you meet him at any other point; A.
No, sir; l have met him three times mot him
at the club: met him Sunday on the street,
which was matter Of mere accident, and met
him this morning at the hotel. $1,000 b,
o. How did you happen to meet him at the clubf
A. I had an appointment with Mt Mattlngly at
the club, and a. i was about leaving Mr.. Mat
tingly very politely asked me up at the club, and
went there. It Is hardly necessary perhaps to
state what occurred there, but there the usual
trolucsd TO Colonel Moore by Mr. Msttingly, I
think. On Sunday was out on the sidewalk,
and met him again. There were one or two other
ramSsp nov and M nsas.nt uvs
With him Of about half an hour, which had no
earthly relation to this case, and this morning
met hin again a. me once o. the EDo.tt house. !.
room on sunday, be and three other gentlcmen.
we're With q simi a. think Mt tSIstsndsn xas
with him, and one or two other gentlemen whose
names do not now recolleot. They staid about
1fteen minutes: we h s there what We call
Q. How long were you with him Mt the clubf
was with Col. Moore for ten minutes at the
limb. Twas about leaving when was introduced
Q. You say You had an appointment with Mr..
Where was that appointment A.
Vt. Mattingly invited me to meet him ct the
Eas too late, because had been to the opera. !
vent there, however,, and found Hun. I was very
entertained py him and some other
Introduced by him to Col Moore. did aot expect
o see Col Moore, and do not know that up to
hat time I ever heard his name.
,esides Moore and Mattinsiyi A. That is very
itficult for me to tell Was Introduced toa great
q. Did You meet any OF the members OF the
q. Governor Shepherd Is one. A. Governor
o. Mr.. Magruder is one. A. He was not there.
Q. Mr.. willard 10 another. A. Mr.. Willard
vas not there. vi I'll G-7g 49,. @.E :.
vas introduced to him by some gentleman, whom
cannot tell; but never met him out oil this room
Except last Friday. As was passing out met
lin Standing hers, as tho committee went on It's
Q. Hayo you at any time communicated to Mr..
fattingly, or any other person in this city. what
vent OF his belng brought before the conmitteef
!. think that have perhaps told Mr.. Mat
Ingiy That Mr.. Rirtland's testimony, while II
enden. would be Injurious. Mr.. Ma.tingly said
o me in respect to that-that was before ever
aw Mr.. Kirkland, and before was here-I had
ommlttee. He said that he desired to have Mr..
Kirkland here, aud they were going TO get Mr..
Kirkland, and that he was going to use every
rom what had heard-sir Wilcox had told me
L Q letter before ever saw Mr.. Kirkland, which
Fas placed In the hands OF the committee, In
.hich Kirkland had stated, as understood him,
ever seen II, anu cannot swear to its contents,)
hat his Mr.. Kirtlands) testimony would be In
arieus. MIR. Mattingly has always manifested 70
ae the strongest disposition to produce Mr.. kirt-
and here In every conversation which have ever
ad with him on the subject.
Q. Did YOU over inform FIR. Mattingly sner
gu had seen Kirkland that kirtland's testimony
Tould be injurious? A. No, sir; MIR. Mattngly
oes not know. from anything that have ever
Aid to bin on the subject, that ever saw mir.
llrtland.
TESTIMONY OF GEORGE n. cHrrTEsDEN.
George r. Chittenden sworn and examined.
BY Mr. Thurman. Q. When did you see Mr..
.irtlandf A. saw him last Thursday night.
q. Is that the last time you saw himf A. Yes,
q. When was the last time before that you
Nv him: I think seven or eight months. I do
OF know but IL was nearer year.
e. e. pia u y9u SEQ him but once last week. a.
q; Whers did you see him' A. saw him at
&c Ebbltt house.
In whose room, A. En- thss r. aac@
q. Who was present. A. There was no one
resent At the fore part Of the interview. The H.
,rvieU lasted Afteeu or twenty minutes perhaps
q. The whole interview: A. Yes. sir.
q; Did You 80 with him to that room' A. No,
q. Did You meet him there by appointment
: He sent . note TO the Arlington asking me to
,me over and see him -l -
Q. From the Ebbitt Housei. A. Yes, sir.
q. Why did yon not 20 to his r00mf A. 1
link he slated In the note to come to 20e.
BY Mr.. Wilson: Q. Have you that note. A. No.
BY Mr. Thurman: @. That was last Thursday
vepingt A. Yes, sir; about ten o'clock.
Q: Did he tell you why he wanted to see your
q. What reason did he give for inviting you
ver theref A. suppose, since We had not met
" so long, he would like TO see me. would
ave liked TO have seen him, too.
q. Was that the reason he gave, or did he give
nyf A. Ho did not give any.
@. What did you talk aboutf A. ] talked
bout the Investigating Committee, that Is, Of
be testimony that had given in this case, and /
q. what aid be ssy 20 thsts A. He said he
9. Then what occurredi State the whols con-
ersatlon. A. told him that ] had boon very
Ill IN my testimony, and asked HIM II he had
rs correct, or words 70 that effect. and that he
ad resd Il through very carefully add found II 70
q. Did he soy how long no had ',esn IN the city.
!. He did not say auything about that; no, sir.
Q. Did be say when he Gamer A. Not word
q. Did no say where he had been IN the oltyt A.
q. VIVA. name did he sign to the note tha. he
o. How did you know. then, when you got o
9th signed Hoyle that ft was Kirtlandf A. Well,