National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-05

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Q. You did mott A. No, sir. -
| q Did You go to see Mr.. Corccrani A. NO
i q. Did you take any step to inquire whether
In point Of fact, Mr.. Corcoran had not refundes
the money! A. No, sir.
Q. When did you write to Mr.. BROWN a.
have written not very long ago.
4 O. How soon amer hearing this from Mr.
Thorn did you write to Mr.. Brown A. y
some time after.
4 Q. About how long, A. 1t was during thi
year, / think.
q. And what did You say to him upon th
subject of the s1o,o0 IN that letter. A. ID
) sent me a telegram from Hoboken that b
) would be back in SIX weeks and arrange wha
! was lust That is all heard, and he got o.
the steamer, the next morning suppose, am
left. - 81 ~ 3 .1i-t = &.
o. At the time you learned from Thorn tina
this money had been refunded, Mr.. Brown wa
still in this countryi A. Why, DO, SIR; he go
just as soon as he got It.
Q. Did 1t occur to you TO complain Of Mr.
Brown that he should pocket SIC, 900 of your
and then take the ship the next day and clear
out for Europei A. ! was in Chicago at the
time he cleared out. did not know he had
the $40, 900, and do not know 1t now.
Q. What you know on the subject is that
had been paidi A. Yes, sir.
@. Didn't you say swhile ago that Mr.. Brown
In answer to your letter, had promised that he
would be back and make it all right A. No
sir.
Q. Well, you said you had written to him
about this $4,000, and asked him to remit
didn't youi A. said 30.
@. What was his answer to that A. didn't
tell you that had an answer.
@. That is what want to know, II you had
an answeri A. have not, ] told you that he
had telegraphed to me the day he got on the
steamer; that was six or seven months before
wrote him.
Q. he telegraphed you six or seven months
before you wrote TO himl A. say he tele-
graphed me from Hoboken the day that he got
on the steamer, presume. was in Chicago
at the time.
Q. Now he telegraphed you six or seven
months before you wrote himi A. Yes, sir.
@. About the s10,000l A. didn't write to
him about the $4,000.
Q. About the money! A. didn't write to
him about the money.
o. Wen, then, about what time was It that
he did telegraph to you from Hoboken? A.
think It must have been in October, 1879.
@. How long was It after you paid the SO,
600 that you received the telegram from Mr.
Bowen, from Hoboken, directed to you at Chi
cagoi A. don't know. The SIC, 900 was paid
to bind the bargain, and the next payment was
to be made on the LIST or 4th of October, but the
payment was not made. 1t was soon after that
that the money was handed to him, as under
stood 1t, and he cleared out with 1t Just as soor
as he got 1t. ... .-
Q. When he telegraphed you from Hoboken
tell US, as near as you can reeollect, what was
the telegram he senti A. told you Just now
Q. Just tell Us again. A. "Wil return in siz
weeks and arrange what Is just"
Q. You received that telegram In Chicago
A. think so. . ..r -.-.-. - ... -
@. What did you understand by the expires
sion, "Will arrange what IL justp' A. l never
have been able to comprehend that.
Q. You do not comprehend 1t, then, at ALI
a. No, sir. ..
O. You onot know what IT meant A. No,
SIR; can understand what is Just myself. ]
do not know what he had reference to.
Q. You did not know at that time that he
had got the SIC, 000l A. No, SIR.
@. Did you suspect iti z. No, sir.
@. In point of fact, had he got the SIC, 000l
A. That merely know from hearsay.
Q. Now it never occurred to you to go and
inquire of Mr.. Corcoran or his man of business,
Mr.. Hyde, whether the s10,O 900 was refunded
or noti
The Witness. 1t never occurred to mei
Mr.. Thurman. Yes. " ST.. -. ..
A. / ueverdid do It. It might have occurred
to me several times.
@. But you never didi A. No, sir. ......
Q. Did you ever write to hint A. No, sir.
By Mr.. Wilson: Q. Did you ever write to
Brown to remit you that money! A. wrote
to them to remit.
Q. WHAT A. What was Just.
Q. What was that2 A. do not know what
he considered was just. I knew what con-
sidered would be just.
Q. What was It you wrote to him In that let
teri A. 1t was very brief. ... '.-.
Q. What was it, A. am not very good at
remembering letters. do not write many.
Mr.. Wilson. You write well when you do
write, then.
The witness. do, ehl am very sorry. It
takes q great deal to explain them away, it
seems.
Q. What was It you wrotea A. wrote him
to remit any details he might arrange when be
arrived.
Q. Details about WHAT A. There seemed to
&c question about what was Just.
Q. What was 1t that you were telegraphing
and writing about in reference to its justnessi
A. 1 did not telegraph at all.
Q. He telegraphed to you, and you wrote to
him; he telegraphed to you that he would ar
range what was iustl A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you wrote to him to arrange what
was justl A. Yes, sir; was very anxious he
should.
Q. What was it all about A Simply that.
y. WnaI was II ABOUT n. Ii was not an
essay; ! had nothing in particular TO say to
him.
Q. What was 1t you were writing and tele-
graphing about A. / was not telegraphing.
Q. He telegraphed and you wrotea He used
the wires and you the peni A. Freely.
Q. You didn't seem TO have used 1t very
freely on this subject in the way Of giving the
details. Now, we want to know what was the
subjeet-matter of that telegram and your let
far1 Hxyl aft he
after that telegram. He didn't appear here
Q. don't care whether it was several months
or several years. You were both treating Of
the same subject A. Yes, sir.
O. What was the spbjecti A. The subject
of the HARDWOOD purchase.
Q. Why did you not tell us that long agol
A. Well, really, I should have been happy to,
if that is what you have been after:
Q. was trying to find out what It was you
were writing and telegraphing about, and Sen
ator Thurman has been after that for some
time. --
The Witness. Did say he was engaged in
this purchase of Harewood3
Mr.. Wilson. Yes, yog did.
The Witness. Wen, that was the subject.
By Ar, Wilson: Q. You say that is the sub
jet. That Is the first time you have given
us that information. You have been here
under two assumed names since this investiga-
ton beganl A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you have any other name since this
investigation began? A. None except my own.
Q. Aside from your ownl A. Not that /
know of.
Q. Did you see George Alfred Townsend in
this cityl A. do not know him; I might
have seen him.
Q. Were you not on the street with him one
dayl A. might have been on the same
street. ! am not acquainted With him. do
not know him even by sight.
Q. Didn't you meet him under an assumed
pamsi A, Ne, SIR; never met the gentleman,
to my knowledge. u rs'
Q. How Re9 s6u going to get from George
town to New York when you left this cityl A,
l was going to take the trip by steamer.
q. What line were you going byi A. By the
John Gibson. don't know what line 1t is.
It leaves Georgetown early in the morning and
Alexandra at u o'clock IN the day.
0. Is tina. the line that carries passengers;
A. ! believe not. am very well acquainted
with the captain, and always promised him to
go on trip with lin. He said he wanted to
show me some good fishing.
Q. That is the way you were going TO get
aroundi A. Yes, sir; i was going cheap.
@. Did you have any special favors extended
to you by anybody A. didn't get on the
steamer.
Q. Did you get passi A. No, SIR; could
have got q pass, / presume.
Q. Did you get one In factf A. No, sir.
Q. Did YOU have any arrangement by which