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wherein was to have three -fourths of the
Harewood, and one-quarter was TO 60 to Brown,
and signed by Brown also.
Q. thought the first time you heard Of
that arrangement between them. that they
were to share. Share and share alike A..
Was on the second visit Of Kirkland to Chi.
cago.
o. You did not learn that from these letters
this morning for the first timei A. No, sir.
Q. so understood you; perhaps misunder-
stood you. A. These letters were new to me,
except 90 far as wrote myself.
@. understood you this morning. might
be nistaken-I understood you to say this
morning that this matter Of their negotiations
on their own account was new to you entirely;
that all this spondence--4A.lI II was
new up to q certain time Il was all new to
me when I was In Philadelphia. It was all
new to me while Brown was In Chicago.
When went on to Philadelphia was work.
ing in perfect good faith IN the whole matter.
Q. Then It was not new to you whom these
letters were read to you this morning BY Judge
Wilsonl A. These letters were new, but that
one point had been communicated to me By
Kirkland himself. -rr
30 much by surprisel A. The letters, of course
! had never heard, except the telegram got
from Philadelphia.
Q. You knew that they were dealing on their
own account A. Yes, sir. .sy1.. .-
@. Who is Mr.. Sturgisi A. Mr.. sturgis
was my own friend in Chicago. Mr.. Colvin
Brown did not know Mr.. Sturgis at all, ex-
cept as he knew him through me. get these
bonds from Mr.. sturgis through negotia-
ton.
Q. Was Mr.. sturgis interested In the pur-
chaser A. No, sir not at all. ! sold some
paper to Mr.. Sturgis. .... -.-.-
Q. Had Mr.. Sturgis promised to let Mr.
Brown have the money to purchase this with
A. o, Mr.. Brown was acting entirely-that is
Mr.. Sturgis was q friend Of mine, and Mr.
Brown had no authority for. saying that Mr.
Sturgis would do this for him. Il was only
through me that this whole thing was done
sturgis was my friend; not Browns friend.
@. That statement In the letter, then, is not
truel A. do not want TO say any statement
is not true. 1858 Tstlacf 90. r. i
Q. Is it possible for statements to be made
by somebody that are not true sometimesi A
1 do not like to contradict anybody.
Q. Then you mean to say that Mr. Sturgis
had agreed in writing to advance this money!
A. I had the bonds from Mr.. Sturgis myself
Mr., Sturgis had performed his part with me
was going to Philadelphia to negotiate these
bonds. --G,tr'aa-1 lEl ...- ...sr .a--.
@. Mr.. Brown says In writing that you had
agreed to advance this money! A. Mr.. Sturgis
performed his agreement with me. l do not
think there was any agreement In writing. /
had q negotiation with Nj. Sturgis, and became
the possessor of these bonds. -r.
Q. You can state whether you pronounce
that untre or not. It seems to me your state
ment conflicts with that letter. A. My state
ment is correct in that matter. -..a.
Q. Then you had no arrangement whereby
you and ColYin Brown and A. d. Kirkland were
to purchase Hardwood at ALP A. had no
arrangement whatever, except the arrange,
ment have referred to. o.. S.. p. -,..-.. -.
@. Now, is It not fact that, after you go'
this award, you and Kirkland and Colvin Brown
went out to the Hardwood estate, and came to
the conclusion that you would put the proceeds
of this contract, together with the perQuisites
you had got on these notes, and rsise the
money and pay $4,000, and make the first
payment on those, and get time on the balance,
and thus make speculation out Of Hardwood
with the proceeds Of the De Golyer contract
A. never entertained that thought for ONE
single moment. The idea Of purchasing Hare
wood was entirely independent Of any transac
lions with Kirkland in regard TO these things.
men were engaged In this-yourself, Colvfr
Brown, and Kirkland. You three men vert
engaged in getting this contract and handling
those notes. The fact Is now established thai
the first payment made Of ten thousand dollars
were the proceeds of those notes. Ira Holmes
cashed the first two notes, paying twelve thou
sand and odd dollars to Kirkland. Kirkland
had ten thousand dollars sent to Riggs g. Com.
pany, and had It In his own name. He came
here and drew 1t, and put 1t up, so that thu
money that was paid was paid out of those
hottest A. 1 never knew that was paid in that
way until / read Mr.. Kirtland's testimony.
never knew anything about 1t. l never knew
the money was raised In that way at all.
never knew what disposition was made ofthost
notes-not q dollar. My transaction was en-
tirely independent Of any transaction in regard
to the contract. went upon another basil
entirely, whatever Kirkland and Brown may
have resolved upon between themselves.
Q. You were the principal In the transaction
and the forfeit that was put up was put up Out
Of that money! A. II is exactly as l stated II
you.
Q. I am not denying that, only wish to
show you how peculiar IL all is-that IL Is s
strange coincidence. A. The transaction wa.
entirely independent, so far as was concerned
with anything connected with these notes
either directly or indirectly.
Q. Does 1t not appear to you to be remarka
bic under the circumstances Here you, kirt
land, and Colvin Brown were in the habit Of
sitting at the same table at the Arlington
You were engaged for severl months In nego
tiating this contract, and you finally got TIL:
81, 900 in notes, which were drawn IN favor OF
Kirkland; that Immediately upon getting the
award of the contract, you three went out to
Hardwood and took look at this property:
A. We did NOT go out for that purpose. W.
went out for fun.
Q. One of the other then, you do not recol
rect which, you ordered to negotiote with Mr.
CQrcora4 for the purchase of the Hardwood es-
tate. Mr.. Colvin Brown did negotiate fol
these parties. You were negotiating constantly
after this with Mr.. Colvin Brown. Mr. Kirt
land came out to Chicago and had an interview
with you, and sells portion Of those notes
raises $4,000, among other things, and make:
the first payment on Hardwood with that identi
cal money. Then you are found in Philadel
phia trying to raise more money TO put into
this transaction A. Trying to raise all the
money, including the $4,000, from my stand
points '... .
Q. But you was trying to raise the money
A. 1 was raising the money that had beer
advanced. ...-.
Q. When this thing fell through you say t.
Rev. Colvin Brown that this failure to carry
the thing through in your opinion is she'll
A. No, sir; It was the negotiations of Philadel
phia that were 10 that way. -.n.' ..
By Mr.. Christy: Q. / notice, Mr.. Chitteuden
in looking over the testimony that DeGolyer &
Mcclellan made objection to concentrating
their part of this transaction, because of the
fact that he presented an award instead of q
contract. Now, what arguments did you use
to overcome that objection when you met that
firm in Chicagol A. My opinion was that the
award and our letter of acceptance of the
award constituted o contract. Mr.. DeGolyer
was here and went back to Chicago. Then
received this Information from them, stating
the fact of having the contract. then wenl
to Chicago and submitted 1t to my attorney al
Chicago, AMI he said the award was just "a
good as q contract.
Q. Who was that attorney A. Charles
Hitchcock was my attorney at that time.
q. But It was not because you said to them
this has been secured by the influence of parties
who can control the matter, but because an at.
torney in Chicogo stated that the award was
equivalent to o contract regularly executed BY
the boardl A. Yes, sir; understood that
that was the customary way of letting con.
tracts in Washington. had so understood
and upon an investigation of the matter by my
attorney, in whom | had great confidence, and
they had confidence in him also, his opinion
was the same as mine.
Q. You say that you made two classes oil
visits to Colonel Moore-oue class friendly and
the other business visits. VIII you state what
passed between you and Colonel Moore In the
business visits you made? A. think that Col
onel Moore became satisfied that was here tc
get q contract. fossil. .-- AZ
@. You say you called upon him to talk bust
ness. Now, what was the nature of that bust
nessi A. never called upon him on purpose