New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-06-18

during the cross-examination by Mr.. Hubbeil IN
reference to Hayes's interview with Nettleship at
toronto, the following testimony was elected:
The wltness-Mr. Nettleship told in Toronto what
ne had tesuned to before this Committee, and all
about IL.
What did he want you to testify TOT A. He wanted
me 10 implIcate Carter. and have him locked up He
stated that they had a man in New-York who
rested Tor burglary, and they would enter nos prose
qua IN the DistrctAtorney's ofice in consideration
that ne should here and that he was
inc man tna escaped that night he further stated that
he had this German who would that he had seen
Carter and this together, and that he had an ex-
omcer OF the division who would swear that Carter
asked him to go and do the Job; aud all he re-
CURED was my testimony. and he could put Carter
where this man was and get the other man out Garter
was the Baltimore detective who had testified before the
Committee.
BY Mr. wson-Q Was any statement made TO you
oJ any lady as to what was to be done there the
night the safe was to be blown open A. The only
statement that anybody made TO by Mr.. Net
teship as to what be done with the contents.
mere was statement about book case that was ike
Wise 10 be broken open and the contents 70 be scattered
ABOUT the place. and not 10 leave anything In the sae
particularly anything with but TO gobbe
up everything and them to Aexanders house ac-
cOriing to the programme that ranged before.
Q. How were these men who did this job 10 be paid
A. was to offer 81 900 to another who proposed to
dol
@. Who vas to furnish the money! A. The man was 70
get IL when he came here. 80
O. Did he get it, A. The man told me that he had his
money.
q Was there any under here that you know
anything about, which you had any Information OF,
as to the in which the party was to get his
money! A The first understanding in reference to the
money was, the was get 900 when he came here.
q From whoml A. The first arrangement he was TO
get 1t from me.
@ Who was to give it to you = A. Nettleshp.
q You say the parties we're 10 have sl,oOOf A. Yes
Sir.
mentioned.
@ Who was to furnish the money! A. I was only in
ferred that Nettleshp give it to but the first
arrangement fell through the man looked for In New
York would not come, and this man came.
q. Was there negotiation understanding where
this money to from only your influence shat
Nettleship TO furnish 1T A. Yes. Sir; signed
vouchers for only $50 for the mouths Of March and
April.
BY the Chairman-Q You did sign vouchersi A. Yes.
Sir; for SOC 50.
Q. Gave them to whomi A. To Mr. Nettleship back
again. he gave them to me in an envelope to sign;
signed them and gave them back.
Q. Did you yet the money A. Yes. Sir / got 300
afterward when they to Canada; l got more
than that altogether.
q What the vouchers for A. They were blank
vouchers for services the Treasury Depart
ment.
@ Wat were the services rendered A. That was
left blank it not filed up he told me TO sign the
blanks he gave my name AZ William Hines.
@ What that for A. For services in coming
here.
O You signed IL by the name ~ Hines A. Yes. SIR
he suggested that when in tho kuKlux
the of Hudson; he said had better take
some other beside my Own, and suggested the
name Of Hudson he said that was too common name
and he suggested the name of Hines.
Assistant District-Attorney Harrington, who was
called in during the hearing of Hayss testimony.
asked the witness if he had any inference at all
or any communication. either directly or Indirectly,
that he was to furnish any OF the money or had any
knowledge of it. The witness replied that he did
not state that. and that he did not know where the
money to pay the burglars came from. In answer to
questions by Senator Thurman the witness testified
@. Was enor- that time D-o~H'ns open
the to be a sham one. or real one n Inc
only thing SAID that the books were To he
taken to Aexanders house. and was understood that
the man was arrested who delivered this books to
Mr.. Alexander.
@ Did you get the impression that these books were
Of any value. OF valuel A. knew they were of
no value; inferred from what Netteship told me he
said "rnere Is set obooks there. and We don't care
d what they are
BY Mr.. Bass-Q Did the men who broke open the safe
suppose they to be arrested a The only answer
cen make TO that question is what Mr.. Williamson
SAID he said he had his instructions and that he knew
they not to be molested.
@ You say your understanding was that one of them
was not to arrested there about thatf A
was instructed tell this man Williamson 10 go out
back way and let the other CONS out the front
door when got these instructions this man had found
out that janor in the building, and he was
going to tie him up; he said, No don't modest tue
man :" IL VIII raise too much stink.
O. Did you leave Toronto and come here by reason of
an ything Newcomb A. He said he wanted to get
this man out OF Jail.
@ Did he say anything about coming to Washington
A. No, Sir. He wanted deposition from me.
@ Did he ask you what you would testify to il you
came on A. No. Sir. All he said was, I" The Colonel
has sent here to get deposition from you IN ref
erence case :" and said had made one depos-
ton already.
@. He wanted affidavit to get Benton out OF jail
A. Yes, Sir, and to get this other man in
O. What other man : A. Mr.. Carter saw Mr.. Net
eshp SATURDAY aud he gaze me $50 to 20 out of the
city this at his house; he had to borrow US
70 do II.
@. Did anybody you there with hint A The I'M
dertaker me; his child died that day; | did not
know il when went there. and the undertaken met me
at the door Nettleship wanted me to leave immedi'
ately; he said the Committee wonld adjourn In a rev
days and that IT would all after speaking TO
him little while he got me $50 and took 1t.
In relation to an affidavit produced before the
Committee purporting to have been made by Hayes,
and which charged that Mr.. Alexander hired him to
commit the burglary. Hayes testified as follows:
was approached in the City Of New-York on the 7th
or sh Of May last by Mr. Nettleshp who told me that
liable 10 be arrested and that had better come
TO his house and make ARRANGEMENTS TO get OUT OF H.
went to his house the following night which was on
Friday. He gave the address of gentleman living