National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-05-23
made a computation Of the cost Of layingpsve

u Y. ana that, according 70 your computation,
1t could be laid for s1.e4i A. Yes, cir I win
take all the work they can give me, and II they
give me fifty cents square yard profit will
get to be q rich man II they viii give me. all
the work can do; that is, with that pave
ment. o. q. IN e. 40
Q. Very true; If they give you fifty cents q
square yard profit, and you were to do enough
work, you could, undoubtedly. A. / say, at
fifty cents q square yard over 81 81 will I'M
dertake It, and VIII give bonus for H..
Q. How many feet OF lumber are there in 9
square ysrdi, A. At this moment cannot tell
you. have papers ct home upon which
made the calculation, not Only once but Q
dozen times. can tell you that there Is As
cents square yard less wood (4S per cent? IN
that pavement than there is In the Stowe or
the Ballard, and probably one or two others.
Q. How much would your wood cost you o
thousanda A. Wen, that wood there cost me
$50 thousand.
@. How much could you buy 1t for at thai
tirnei' A. could have bought 1t on the street
for t25, and you could have gone aud bought
1t and sold 1t to me, or anybody else that
could have picked up on the street-anybody
would have sold me lumber at $25 at that
time. -
o. Can you bring any lumber-dealer or any.
body familiar with the price Of lumber, who
will state to this committee that lumber could
have been bought at that time for $25 thou
sand1 A. Well, / don't know that ! can. ]
can bring you persons that will give you the
price of lumber at that time, for I had spoken
to man, l think his name Is d. W. Smith
with whom had correspondence, and whom
1 saw here in this city,
Q. There are plenty Of men here in this city
who have bought lumber, are there noti A.
l know that, sir; / can lind you plenty OF
them. AS
Q. You can find plenty Of them who will
come here and state that they could purchase
lumber at $25 Thousand at that timei A.
have not gone out and inquired about that, but
] know that It could be done at that time.
Q. Do you know Of anybody here who knows
anything about lumber who will say sol A.
do not know ] suppose there are q dozen, II
l would 90 out and bring them in.
By the Chairman: Q. State the time, sir. A,
This was in the fall of 1871. This is one Of the
earlier contracts that was awarded by the
board.
By Mr.. Mattingly: O. Did the s35 include
the cutting of the blocks and delivering them
on the street, A. Yes, sir.
Q. Could you have got that done for $25
A. No, sir, could not but ] know exactly
the cost it would have been to me in cutting
the blocks.
Q. Do You know what the labor would cost
you for laying say q thousand yards Of pave
mentl A. You can get lots Of labor.
Q. But you come here and state that you
have made calculation and estimate of this
pavement that 1t will cost you 81 "a to lay; now
/ want to see whether you are competent to
make any such calculation or not. A. Well
Mr.. Mattingly, If you will wait until tomorrow
l will bring you the papers and show you all
the items. 1t has been since 1871 since have
figured on that, and VIII bring you an item,
lied account, and then you can go over that
and cross-examine me. e. ..-r., .-a-
Q. Had you laid any pavement at the time
you figured on III A. was figuring at the
ttme-both before and at the. time.
9: You say you made these figures in 1s71'
| A. Yes, sir. 30. = i, =. ~
O. Had you laid square yard of wood pave.
ment at that time in 1871, when you made
these fguresl A. Yes, sir; laid three fourthi
of square; did not finish It. ...,
@. Wherei A. On Third from D up to thret
fourths of the way of that square toward E.
@. You did not finish It'll A. did not.
Q. Then you did not know at that time whai
It would cost you'll A. The fact is, l was mo-
at 1t but short time until was thrown out.
@. You got out of this contract did you not
did you not assign your interest to Mr.. Forney
A. No, sir; viii give you an answer to that
@. No, / do not care about that. A. wal
induced to make an assignment to Mr.. ForneJ
as trustee in the whole Of that interest in TIT
pavement for the benefit Of my wife.
Q. You made an assignment TO Mr.. Fornel
as trustee for the benefit of your wifei A
t~e Fhruyou ana .ssign to Nh. Fornsy IN tina
wayi A. That is, my part oft.
Q. You hsve stated that Mr.. 8. P. Brown wa
to receive some portion Of the profits or tn
proceeds of this work. A. Yes, sir. -
@. How do you know thati, A, That wa
the statement and the condition upon which
went into this with Mr.. Forney, giving hin
one half of the profits, because he had to pa,
one third Of that half to Mr.. Brown ~ !.
@. When was Mr.. Forney's statement mad
to your Did he say Mr.. 8. P. Brown, or A. P
Brownl A. SIP. Brown. - - r....l
@. Did 8. P. Brown ever tell you that he ha,
any interest In this thingi A. never spoke b
8. P. Brown in my life to my recollection ex
cepting once, believe, when he stopped me q
the post office, and informed me that woul,
receive letter from the post Office, and that
should keep cool and not get excited; that Mr.
Mullet had written q letter. II was q privst
letter he said, although Il went there In tn
name Of the board.
Q. It was not very complimentary to you
4. Do you want to see It'll have 1t here.
@. No; ] do not care anything about III
you got excited over It. ~ 7ns ---f
The Chairman. will look at It, If yol
please, while you are crossexamining the wit
! ness, Mr.. Matting1y. u .gaa.. . - '...
BY Mr.. Mattingiy, q; Why did you not stat,
9 little while ago that Mr.. Forney had stated
to you that Mr.. Brown was to receive . por
tor Of this eonirssti "A: 4 Gid not :upPos'
YoS essd me The direct question and ! an
10. You are lawyer, are youn mn A. Yes
SIR. - =;
| 20. Did you not know as lawyer that It wa
not evidenced A. Well, state here that ] al
IKE yourself; know q great many things tina
probably under the rules would not be received
- testimony. ] was asked for IT,, .svsr-sT.
l. Q. Do you not think Il would have beel
that II was hesFsay evidenced
Mr.. Aattingly. There "a not any doub
| about this thing. The more you Gsk me-
I do not want to say all ! know, an no
here beeause I am sesking r. ] an not seek
By the Chairman: q. Yoa Soy you ase no
Istating all you knoN3, A; Well, don't wan
4 Stances, Just as Mr.. Mattingly now d cross
examining Re that would-they would bar
out and you Would not hear it--tgo or .tlzei
things that am satis6ed are >so. Now, TO
| instance know and i am satisfied Mr.. For
nay told me thai tH<t was HE condition ipol
y S1 ss5P&& sSEss' rs "a = 81 =
1 MIN. .EFEb
! The Chairman. vewou1d like 70 knpg q
much Of what you know "a Ae can, sir. : =
By Mr.. Mattingly; Or Did you say thstyu
understood you were 10 get $11 900 ffom LIN
villei A.. That q my recollection At that time
1 Q, You rcd. Mr.. Feehts's testimony on III
fSublecF didys5e noti A. Idd, but ! Do no
recollsct what figures he mentions there; the
At aths present time 4 GO nes rseellect 20 @
q. You Id. nos = .sss IN, oss, dif ~ 4
Thst do zot kn1r II only know xhatf got
sssOsss ss.s =, nom ,1 " .1 ssss r.,
u get my IAN propoFtion ef Re rs 7 4. "a
I Q. You were 70 have . proPof4 cn d Fhat
ever was paid, wefs tyoa noai M d
b have S.S on; ana Nd u H '' 'y'
Q. DID Jon not feel sufacisntly interested I.
ascertain how mnch, in point of fact, was paid
A. Wen, / felt someHhst swindied. There ar
bills running. They came 70 my house In m,
absence and -ssid that there were some inc
1 dental expenses connected with that cQntrac
which they had paid Or before they divided tn
money, and left In my hands some bills whicl
/ am dunned for every day now
] @. And you let the thing goa A. Wen,
would like TO know what ! could have done, :
L BY Mr.. .Mattingly; y. That pavement, 4
point Of fact, was not laid on Third street, wa
ne A. No. ttr; excepting What Il laia thor
now those blocks that were sawed; they wer
taken no d the square belos, ana ars lAid q
the intersection. They are lying &C the inter
l section of Massachusetts avenue and Thir