New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1874-12-31
has gone into your record should be glad to have the
correction made.
PAYMENTS CHARGED TO IRWIN.


PAYMENTS CHARGED TO IRWIN.
TESTIMONY or DUMONT CLARK, ASSISTANT CASHIER
OF THE AMERICAN EXCHANGE BANK.
After the recess, nOminally Of an hour, but
a. usual extending beyond that time, Duinont Clark,
the Assistant Cashier OF tho American Exchange BANK,
was recalled shown the account OF Irwin with the bank
and asked by Mr.. Burchard II he ever examined tho
entries in tho books with regard to the payments
charged 10 Irwin during 1921
A. Yes Cir We have done 81 for as posslOle ouI
there are great many items which II Is impoSSoie 10
trace to tell got them from, dS we received
each day 90 slip, each OF the banks with list OF
| tho checks simply In round numbers, WITHOUT any
! reference to tho makeup Of the numbers Of
any thing OF that KIND But looking tho slips OF
tho days we received those checks we find great
many. some received from ono bank and sono from
another and it almost impossible to tell which bank
we received FROM have chosen three or four ITEMS
and one OF si6O0-a rather odd amount In the slips
find that the only item Of si 500 which We recrlvSd Hn
That unqueStlOnaby Ia tho check In question Judge
50 from the fact nat this tue 2ny pr O 'na s mssr
further, and found another RATHER unusual amouht,
$4,000 and find that on May q we PAID two items o.,
1900 EACH to the Bank OF North America ana the
other to the Central National Bauk an !,
Q Was either Of those certified or an uncertihed
chtcKl A. There Is no possible way IN which 10 hIcn-
tfy certified from an uncertiird check Then, az
We have rccoasii red the matter Of the 100000 You
for the fact that paid by the note teller. Inc
inst three checks that day we're paid from the casa 81
the paying teller but the last 100000 was paid BIZ tho
note tclers We find that on that day we Issued to the
% 10 S Of arpG' T W haE' and 0c 2SS With
Il measure OF certainty although not entirely SO, quo
fact aI 90 lhat ay genGsn sy ao It and de-
to dsp9' %h US e p pnan Se inc In
The Bart deposiied with Us Was this ccrufeao
OF deposit Of s565oOO That was deposited on May
e. and was not returned to tho bank for payment
II 4 Oi
order OF Eugene Kelly Co., ahd by u iSenc hrlS ue
whether deposited in Eugene Kolly'S bankingbous
In NrwYok San Francisco, IA impossible Tor us TO
Say. I; was nearly two months-lrOm May n to July
limo to 20 10 California and return We haVo never
issued certificates of deposit 10 strangers, ana when
they be identified 10 us as being correct W. Eenrr
book feel very that was the certificate lssuou In
O. Who are Ensens Kelly & Goa A. California bank
eis. having an once in NewYork.
maicf A. There is no way to tel unless should cx-
anime AL sIips received on those dates, ana lhrn
each So item sent TO bank asking from whom they
O. Could they tell without tho original chccKi A.
They would havO difficulty; they would have to hunt
no all the sNO iteus they received III the course OF
their business that day. Which would be good many
was received IRON WIsIngtoDq A. None of them were
received directly by u.s. IL would come 10 us tne next
day through the ordinary course or business. -,
Mr. BrcH Explain that item OF 5000 beginning WIN
February, 1872; where did 1t come lrom a. Bank Oh
America 1t tho only item VI that amount that we
received that day. ,., .
O. To mind this Is one OF the ueDlts 70 lr"lh' a.
Inquest onably. u,
O. To whose credit It was deposited yOu cannot tell
A. no can tell that hut the Bank OF America.
O. And the other s. 0c0 CGHe to yOu through the BANK
OF NOrh America or the Central National Bank, eaoh
having $4,000 item that day and there beng 4niy one
cannot tell VIII! IA; we can only ascertain oy tcsIihe
both Of those banks and would fan 10 one OF t'fn
O. IIad sir. Whiting any account with your a. NeVer
had prey iuns 10 tEat time. .,,. ,,,,
O. YOu have on thr stub OF your ccr'iuea'e oooA HIS
O. Did Won bring that with youl A. didn't it is on
"' O. We Want to iisnifv Mr. Wm!ng'3 handwriting;
We mono Of us know him. y. suppose give you the
stub of the certificate book.
O. send IL Tie stub of tho check II you cam win the
Original hand Writing Go on. A. TacIe Is another item
Of and have ryns 10 e"e nG S S Hs IN
ing. They were still hunting for 1t when came away
O. II t0u should Apply the sps Of that day the proba
bity that you would hnd no otncr similar amounts
O.. II YOU lind tho memorandum OF that day, would
you send us such Information as that Will furnish ana
lot II be part OF tho answer you no" MAKER a. oel-
@ Is that the only that strikes you as likely to be-
found without much trOublei a. Ics, Sir lt Is hkely
IL we should lind out where these came from you Wouu
have great difficulty in tracing them IN tue DINER DahK
Mr.. BUrchard-ll this item you refer t5OO.slouid
be check that had passed through another Oink what
would the bank-bOOHs show that would cnablc us 10
and il t,y should be as ortunato as we in Hiding only
one 800 item III that day business they could trace III
little more difficult SAD they coud do It, Tncy would
look through credit books, ami II they saw such an
O. WHAT Is there ABOUT the $1,000 itcmi A. We cert-
flea the check, but that Is what we could not nnd.
As tho witness retired, his examination being COM
peted, two gentlemen. OF whom was recognize as
Hugh j. Hastings the editor OF The Commercial Adper-
fser entered the Mr.. Hastings was sworn at his
own request communicated 10 the Committee in VIII
ing and refutcd az utterly falso the statements that
have appeared, III giag tho Committee to call upon Nr
Hastings TO give Information IN regard TO $9OlOOo cX
pended by the Pacinc Mail Company at Albany. Mr.
Hastings stated that he had had nothing to do with the
obtaining OF tho Pacidc Mail subsidy, aud knew nothing
whatever about il.