New-York tribune., 1874-10-15
EHE THIRD TERM SCHEME.

ORGANIZATION OF THE SOUTH SUGGESTED FOR
THAT END.
About ten DAYS ago The Utica Observer
stated that Judge Perrepont Of this city Is prom-
nent advocate Of Grants scheme for third term"
When questioned the subject, Mr.. Pierrepont was
silent to his opinion. but observed that when
the for him to speak COMES Gen. Grant VIII say
that he neither desires nor seeks a third term" The
accuracy of its statement being thus impeached, The
Observer vindica:es itself as follows:
The Observer is responsible for the statement that
Edwards PierrepOnt prominent advocate OF Grants
scheme for third immediately after the pub
catiOn Of the denial we set 70 WORK 10 coect
the available evidence bearing on the subject. The
olowiug comm unicaton is directly the point and
speaAs itself. We Withhold Tor the present the
names of the writer and OF the witnesses whom lie
summons 10 sustain his statement. Bat have full
permission TO use tue names and shall avail
tIat permission IN case judge PerrepOnI aaesIohs
'"' "''"-''' VI ''' ALBANY Oct TO- 1874
To the Editor Of The Utica Observer
on the O.h or 10Th May judge Pierrepont was
at Congress Hall in Albany. met MN first at supper
conversation about politics began al the supper tDe
and was carried on subsequently In the Office
the nOte, for two hours altogether Judge - was
present during the whole OF the conversation ana
M during that part Of il which occurred in the
Office have not spoken TO either OF taen dDout IT, Du'
they cannot fail to remember II distinctly In ths con-
yersaton Mr PieTrepQut stated over and over again In
the strongest language his Deef tnat Grant would ne
renominaUed third term aud t1um phanty elected;
that while might lose some publican votes at The
North they would be more tnaH m2de up by the
votes Democrats and that, particularly Woulo Ne
get the Southern Democratic vote, whicn would
him every Southern electoral Vote. Ia answer
every argument presented wny Grant ought not 10 De
reelected. Nj Perrepont would only reply tnat he tne
PresdenO represented Just a. Lincoln had done before
hm, the average Intelligence and morality Oh the coul-
try and that, republic, that was the best thng 10
he hoped for Ther-was good deal of talk about such
appointments those OF Casey Packard Summons &C.,
aud the selection by Grant Of low and vulgar
class Of men. for his intimates: While Mr;
mnen V''I 10 be regretted, he reiterated the
assertion that Gen. Grant the representative OF the
average intelligence and morahty oi the Amerlcan
public. The OF his belief In the renomin alton
reelection OF Grant was repeatedly made, anu tIe
words OF the conversation or his part were almost
dentcay these L may not see you again before the
Presidential election. but remember my prediction tnat
Gen. Grant will be reelected Dy very large majority
The conversation Impressed me particularly because OF
Mr. PierrepOnts weiknown intimate personal relations
with the President and especially because he informed
me that he had recently returned from Washington
be had cOnversed at great length with the Presi
dent though he dd not say on tns oplc. IL occureu
to that Mr.. Pierrepont would not Dc nkey
to talk so strongly and posiiy,ey ABOUT nj ~
had to speak out On the SUBJECT OF renomna
tion and begin the campaign IN that direction. l
have no doubt TINS was the case, ana a equaiy Ger
tain tnat in view Ct the apparent reluctance OF the
wise pending Fall electons TO create the impress
sion tna nothing In IT. At the time OF my con-
OF third the south had not yet been made, and
/ was surprised at tine postveness OF his state
Within u few weeks afterward a number OF
Southern Democrats and some Conservative
question, and gave it more or less cordial support
Inis gave. to my mind sun greater sgnincance TO
II seemed that he must
have foreknown that these developments were TO be
MADE ought TO nave stated that IN connection with
the Southern aspects OF the question, Mr. PierrepOnt
stated and inferred from the connection that the Pres
ident shared the vlew} thdJ the giving or Immediate
suffrage 10 the Ignorant and united black population
of the South was the stupendous mistake OF
the age, and that 1t conld mot have posi-
bIy resulted otherwise than IL had-in dis
order, mlsgoyernment, disqualification and disas-
ter. he ntmated pretty clearly ne dd not explicitly
state that only thing TO be dOne 10 have new
construction in the South whicn shonld change In
some way the basis OF political power. My impression
fna fFt M ll.ty tn xn
the support of Grant on the part OF the Southern
whites,
The writer further saws that the conversation was
carried on "in the public room OF hotel IN tone
o+ voee which gave every person who happened TO be
mere or who came the opportunity OF listening"
He suggests Mr. Pierrepout be asked he had not
sad tat 1t was belief that Grant would De renom
mated and reelected - and says he has too much
spect for Judge Perrepont to believe for moment he
would not readily recall and admit hls statement "
The Uiica Observer adds:
In the month of May Eiwards Pierrepont considered
IL safe TO predict (he quIDDes on the word advocate
Grants third term. In the month OF september ne
draft of the Republican party He stu
diously omitted any auson 10 the third term In the
lied Endorsement Of Grantlsm Then followed an ear
Of the hrd term plot on the part OF the
leading newspapers of the country Finding that they
had shown their hands too so0n the scneners decided
on their manufactured Southern outrages Hence Judge
Pierreponrs cautious denial. Ide thrd term plot ~ no
bugbear 1t is the supreme question 0i the hour Ihere
i
ths conspiracy against the Republic must De beaten at
the polls TINS year.
THE SENTIMENTS HELD IN ADMINISTRATION CIR
CLEs-IHE REASONS PUT FORWARD FOR PREsI-
DENT GRANTS REELECTION.
Special Correspondence oJ The Duly Grapat-
WASHINGTON, Oct. FL believe l am In
position TO state with authority the exact status OF
l get my points from persons who ougut to know
'ssy S in the % te saDe
amused the President; and when II caught up by
The Herald, ana made the text of ridiculous Caesar
of merriment between Grant and his par
ticular friends. Up to that time he had
term n all his outgyings to special friends he has
said freely that he had never considered the matter
aud that ne had notion Of being candidate. While
this is his position however is be denied
the suggestion of third term has taken hold Of the
country The immense patronage which now centers In
tine President OF the United States makes much OF
revolution the event OF change Of Administration as
fairly convulse the whole country and tens OF thou
sands OF intelligent voters who ordinarily would be
strongly opposed 10 third term now regard II as the
least OF two evils. Another President, whether
Republican or Democrat, would naturally be COM
PEELED 10 make changes throughout the whole OF the
immense executive and Official machinery by which the
| Government is now carried ON. Such changes were
trling before the war when oces were comparatively
and the vast multiplication OF offices have made
Then the Southern complications are making great
many wish for Grant to continue until better
1rinare President with set OF State Rights notions
| would make confusion worse conioInied at
i tho South. A ffeslutHt win u iacuit5
| would quiOble and prevaricate. and eternaily de.
| lay the time OF nnal settlement. what Is needed
is soldier undemOnstrative, possessing fund OF com
mon sense aud much attached TO ordinary pre-
cedent Such man President Grant has proved MIN
self to be his occupancy OF the Presidential chair
change in the personnel OF the Government would az
this uneture especially be very serious matter ana
u LIS not ali probable that the MASSES OF the people
will unite In demanding that President Grant shall
again accept the responsibility OF this high ONCE and
40 save US from OF intense agitation, II not Oh
political revolution. IL he Is 10 be rnn for third term
Il not because OF his ow1 private wishes on the SUD-
iect but Ia obedience to "A demand which, as servant
Of the people he resist eueh you he snrc
4. t,e az phase of
rs seen from thc highest stapdDout Lrrs.