National Republican. (Washington City (D.C.)) 1872-1888, 1874-04-09

understand 1t right they had ADVANCED soors,~
to do that very work.
Q. Who had advanced moneyl A. Ttst 4.
the BOARD nad done the wo K. There was an
amount due them and they used these sswey
certificates in place of that money that viii be-
c0Ere due.
Q. They did Dct have the money and they
had to use these sewer certificates A.Iim-
agine they did not have the money.
Q. We'll, they had 20 use these sewer eertif-
Gates. That is the fact, is It mott A. Yes, sir,
Q. Do yOu know how long it Is since the
iiaamp-hghte's Of this city have been paid any
tning in money! A. do dot, cir.
Y. Are you aware of the fact, or 4 it fact
Gand simply put the question in this form
ioI tne purpose of refreshing your recollection
nat the lamp.fghters have not been paid
any money since last December q year sgof
a a: 90 not know that fact; # has not come
~ nm me. very possibly that is the case.
streetsI A. Yes, SIP: -.
was tnere . Mr.. Abrams who made 4
D1 ton snas eonsraca A. The record will show
If he did, do not know from recoIIection
Y. 10 you recollect of any bids beiI,u mt a,
for sweeping the streetsi A. Yes, sir . la LARGE
number. 0T 'SssO
Q. Do you know whether Mr.. Ab-.r,,, -,
was $40, 900 lower than the price which Won Ist
that contract at for sweeping the streetsl A.
Very likely, sir.
Q. Was there any reasoD why he should mn.
have had that contract, and If so, what was IN
A. think there were reasons can oply
give them to you from recollection That
question of the sweeping of the streets was well
discussed before the contract was awarded to
Mr.. Wright.
Q. What Mr.. Wright is thatr A. He is FROM
Chicago, Think.
Q. Where does Mr.. Abrams I've, A. do not
know, sir.
Q. Do you know where the money cams
from to pay the January INTEREST," A. do not,
sir.
Q. Do you know whether any of these sewer
certificates were hypothetical for the purpose
Of paying that January interest. A. That I
have understood to be the case.
Q. Where were those sewer certificates nv
pothecatedf A. In New York, believe.
Y. Do you know what amount was hypothe-
catedl A. Nossir.
Q. Do you know at what rate thew yrere nv
potheeatedf A. I do not, sir.
Y. have you ever been informed by any
member of the board that they had been by.
pothecatedf A Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever been informed at what rata
they have been hypothecatedl A. If hsye-I
have not retained it in my memory.
Q. Who informed you that they had been
hypothecatedl A. The treasurer.
Y. Did you get that information from ANY,
body elsei A No, sir.
q. Who did the treasurer inform Won bsT
hypothecated themi A.. / do not know that he
stated that he had done it himself, or it had
been done by somebody else.
Q. Can you give the amount of money that
was raised on these certifcates2 A. No, sir.
z. Was there enough raised to meet the JAN
uary interest? A. That is matter that tbe
treasurer can answer better than 1 can. I am
unable 20 state.
Q. l presumed that you, being the executive
officer OF the board, would know something
about that, and therefore asked the Question
A. Yes, sir; but that is not matter that has
come under my supervision.
2. And you have paid no attention to it! A.
No, sir.
Q. Do you know of the scale of prices for
work generally having been changed from
time to time after improvements were madef
A. do not, sir. since have been a member
of the board.
Q. Do you know of any before you became
the executive officer of the boardl A. No, sir.
Q. Have you any information on that subject
A. have not, sir; have not anything except
what has become before me regularly.
Q. Did you make settlement with Taylor
q Hilbert for F street, A. My impression is.
that their accounts have been sent in to the
auditor, but not fully settled, for street.
Q. Have you not made any settlement with,
Taylor 81 Hilbert for that street, A. / think
not, sir. think their accounts are not settled
On F street.
Q. Was there any. agreement between YOU
and Taylor & Filbert with regard to the grad
Ing on F street! A Is that in reference to. a
settlement of their billl
Q. 1 simply ask if there was any agreement
between you and Taylor & Filbertl A. They
asked for an extra allowance for extra work.
No agreement has been made with me for any
hing beyond what they were entitled to at
their regular rates.
Q. Have no vouchers been passed, or any
thing of that kinda A. The vouchers have come
regularly from the engineer and referred to the
auditor in proper way.
Q. Do you know at what price for gradingf
A. No, sir. lean only refer you to the regular
board rates. They have not been allowed for
any extra rates unless it was for extra work.
They have been allowed extra for taking the
Earth under the track. That reco.lect
Q. Was there anything deducted from Tay-
or & Hilbert on account of grading, that their
contract for paving that street carried with It'll
That the engineer can answer better thanI
can.
Q. Well, 1 want to know if you do not know
something about it, A. l would prefer that the
engineer would answer that.
Q. Well, sir, will put to you a direct cues
ton: Is it not the fact that, upon a consulta-
ton with you, TaylortE Filbert were allowed for
that two feet of grading under the tracks? A. Il
Is my impression they were not allowed two
feet.
O.. Well, I want to know your best recoI-
lection now about that, and if that thing was
not done upon a consultation with youi A.
should be prepared to bring the papers here
and let them state for themselves.
Mr.. Wilson here called for the contract for
E street, between Ninth and Fifteenth Streets,
and the vouchers, said contract being No. 1857
O.. l will ask you in addition to that if it was.
not agreed that Taylor q Hilbert should have
ffty cents per cubic yard for that grading2 A
Not by my authority or direction.
Q, Was there not an agreement or under
standing between you and Taylor & Hilbert
that they should have no grading deducted on
account of that contract A. gave no diree-
lions and no orders with reference to that; that
did not apply to all others.
Q. All others of Taylor. 6 FfIbert'sl A. All
others of similar work.
Q. am not asking you that. ask you If
that was not the agreement, the understand
ing, or the direction that was given with refer
ence to that work. A. There was no direction
given to me in that work. I did not give out
the contract.
Q. did not say that you did. I am. asking
about the conclusion of the contract A. It is
my impression that there was an allowance
made for lowering the track.
Q. The track Of what A. The railroad
track; for taking out the earth-excayating
The earth from the track, and that an addf-
tional sum was allowed for that purpose-put
upon the grading, making the grading more
than the board rates. Ny impression is, that
they made charge for the extra handling of
this earth; that is, the excaysting. They had
10 handle It over several times to. get 1t from
the track. ---
Q. Well, I ask you the question now again,
whether that two feet of grading was deducted
from the whole amount Of grading that they
lid on that street, A. Il is my impression that
Il was not. ..a
Q. Now ask you if two feet Of grading was
deducted from the grading that was done on
my of the Taylor & Filbert contractsl A. That
do not know, sir.
Q. Have you any knowledge Of the two feet
If grading having been deducted from any of
Taylor q Filbert's contractsl A. Yes, sir; I
AN state that in these bills which have come
1p that 1t has been deducted, l think on New
Hampshire avenue. That Is my impression.
This is only from recollection. could not say
positively without referring to the papers.
By Mr.. Merrick: Q. Do, you know where
hat earth was hauled to that was taken from
hose excavations on T street, A. My impress
ion is that 1t was hauled to the canal.
Q. What part of tie canal A. That do
ot know, sir.
Q. What is the distance from r street to,tae
ANAL A. Three or four blocks.
Q. Do you think Il was all hauled to the
anal A. / had nothing to do about that.