The anti-monopolist. [volume] (Saint Paul, Minn.) 1874-1878, 1874-09-03

give You the money to pay Tor the stumpage!
a. The money was in my hands, and OF
course he would come to them and demand
his pay. For instance, l bought your logs
you wOnld come to me for the money.
z. wish you would go on and state the
n'odus Operandi of buying logs. A. bought
logs from Mr.. Gaslin. Mr. Gaslin has cut on
State lands a certain amount of logs, and the
State Auditor claims that he owns lien on
what ne has cut on State lands, and he looks
to me for pay for the amount of logs cut, and
presents his bill for what was cut on State
lands
@. When did you last pay the State Aud
ltor tor stumpages A. July, 1868, think
was the last
Q. Did you, or any person for you, pay
any money to any other person for the State
Auditor since that time? A. Not that4I
know of.
@. understand you to say that YOU have
not dealt in any logs on which the State had
a lien, or which were cut upon State land
since then! A. July, 1868, was the last,
think, that paid to the State. don't know
but am mistaken then; guess paid some
since, but could not say who it was for.
Q. When did !, OH pay it,
A. | think it was in 1869 or 1870
@. Did you pay the State Auditor any
money prior to 1858?
"A. L tnlnK UlO, SIT.
@. Have you any means of telling how
much you paid him at each time, and the
date Of payment? -..
A. Think ikely.I could get at it.
@. Do your books show it?
A. 1t shows part of it.
@. Why do not your books show the
whole Of it
A. Well, I, suppose they will, perhaps
| cannot say. Some times there were parties
that had stumpage cut that wanted to pay it
themselves. | would give them the money
and it would not be ON the books.
Q. What mean is, do your books show
all the money you paid to the State Auditor !?
A. Yes, sir.
@. Do understand you to say that you
cut no logs yourself on State lands for
which you paid stumpage? A. Well, say
was interested in this one lot lot here, and
there may have been some lots since that |
was intereste. in.
@. Interested with whom? A. l could
not give you their names now.
q. State how the amount that was cut
was ascertained and determined between you
and the State Auditor? A. l believe he
had man employed to 60 around aud look
mp that matter He had Mr.. Comstock en-
ployed awhile for that purpose
q. Whose measurement did you adopt
as the basis of settlement between you and
the State Auditor? A. believe Mr.. Com
stocks measurement, or whoever he had
looking up those lands for him.
@. Then these logs that were cut on the
State lands were not scaled by the Surveyor
General? A. | think not as general
thing.
@. Have you any data here with you
whereby you can state anything in regard
to the payments, to whom paid, and the
amounts A. believe l have some; paid
for all these parties named first; l think
paid that in July, 1853, Sl877.63
z. Lave you any other amounts. A.
No, sir, that is all have.
@. Was this paid all in one sum to him
A. cannot say whether it was or not
@. For how many feet was this paid ?
A. 600, 877 feet, at So thousand
@. Where were these logs cut for which
you paid at the rate of 50 a thousand? a..
Some OF them were cut on Kettle River, Pine
county; some on Grindstone, Pine county,
and some on Mud Creek, Pine county.
G. We're these logs for which you paid
this money ell of them bought by you after
what was interested in myself. The bal
ance were bought by me.
G. Where were those logs at the time
you paid him for them! A. The majority
were in the boom at Saltwater; some OF
them through the boom on the way to Saint
Louis
9. Had you not run some through the
booms A. Yes, sir; l say some Of them
might have gone down to St. Louis
@. What ones were sent through? A.
The Kettle river logs were.
O.. You mean to say they were rated to
st. Louis. A. Yes, sir.
c.. How long had you had those logs be-
fore you paid for them? A. Well, might
had them, perhaps, thirty to sixty days,
some Of them.
@. What means had the State Auditor OF
distinguishing those logs from others at the
do not suppose he could distinguish them,
because they were all OF the same mark
All the way we could get at them was by
scale Of measurement made in the words
so many estimated as cut.
@ You say there WAS no way you could
distinguish them in the boom from other
logs they simply had the mark Of the par
ties from whom You bought them. A. Yes
sir. ~
O. Then, if understand you correctly,
It would BE- very difficult for the State Au-
ditor to enforce any lien on those logs, fol-
the reason that he could not distinguish
them from any others? A. don't see
how he could.
@. Where were the logs when You paid
for themf A. Some of them were on the
landing where they were cut and some in
the boom at Saltwater.
Q. What did you pay for these logs on
the landing, where they were cut, per thou
sand! A. could not answer that ques-
ton now.
Q. Well, to the best of your recollection.
A. think it was about IS l paid for some
on Kettle river.
@. How much on Mud Creek! A. Well,
those on Mud Creek was interested In; no
price was set on them.
@. Were those logs that You were inter-
ested in on Mud creek cut as trespass or were
they cut under permit? A. guess they
were cut as trespass; am not certain about
that. guess there was an Arrangement
made between Mower and Ccmstock, coming
down to the matter of fact.
@. That is what we want to get at-mat-
ters of fact A.. Mower was running the
thing and guess that was the understand
ing-that he was to go on there and cut the
timber.
@. State what your interest was in those
logs; was it that of partner? A. Yes ;
they were cut Jointly with Schulenburg,
Boeckler & Co., Mower and myself l had
third interest in them.
@. State what it is worth on an average
to cut logs and deliver them on the bank per
thousand. A. About three dollars and a