The New York herald., 1874-08-14
friendship isn't IT the restoration of the fam.

to friendship isn't II the restoration OF ene am'
what ask for that you three .n"ss s%Sua s Ss
Q. And you say that Theodore win have mo
cumstances had been brought TO the bitteress
sSs 4Ssss 4. Nj sssss nsn nss 1
his name, Tor his position and for his housenola.
Everything put together, ne was IN situation "a
restoration In every manner, and the point was
that she should cooperate with him, as wen -
with with ns snsA Il she had her sorsST Tsa
what l think Il likely may have sug.
gsssed e =, those Words but don't Ss,,s,.sS ssy
you know, was at times immensely bitter agans!
Theodore, and felt that abe mad been the aggreved
not been anything IKE so much aggrieved ss
now suppose she has been. .o.
Q. In the same letter OF February you say, "Of
his PERMISSION pei and don't know W. that even then
1t would be best;" why did you say that A. Be.
Bowen or In its immediate vicinity Mr.. Tilton, a.
lhaye the impression now, sent word by mr.
s0wen ao1ga 70 oanset Ss sSre Of that for
U When was THAR A. II was in the vicinity OF
that whole business; but In what way 1t came OF
only know that the message was conveyed to mo
from him; but BY whom. or how, or when, have
forgotten; it was q distinct thing in my memory.
pains to revoke 1t after ne had become recOnclied
@. In the same letter occurred che words (whicn
Mr.. TltOn in his statement makes appear to come
:he same ietter,, "wnen saw you last did not
days.H What was in your mind when you wrote
fnem A. Just what have stated IN my state
9. Nothing else A. No. know frequently
said. ~ wish was dead" and Theodore Triton
came in and said he wished he was dead, and Mr..
Mouiton was frequently In q state In which he
wished he was dead, and Mrs. MOutOn SAID, II
am living among friends every one OF whom wishes
know but 1t was smarter than that but sne put IL
in way that was very ludicrOus; every one OF us
ses to Ss Dg taa ere
familiar pnrase, ~ wish was dead"
q. The outside gossip is that you referred In that
line to contempla ted suicide.
Mr.. Beecher-How do you propose to cure tho
gossip
Mr.. winslow-I cannot say; but want to know
was not : my general purRose tn the matter q thus
,ne motto ny s0y patient com
those who falsely accuse me. meant to put down
and preach down this trouble. or course, IN my
to an end. Now, in interpreting these special
letters, everybody Is irresislbly tempted to sup
regard to their text. instead Of Considering tho
ioreGone state OF my mind; whereas my utteranceS
were largely to be interpreted by the past as weii
as by the present or the future. cannot inter-
pref them precisely as can . note OF hand or
check. A man that Is p0etical. man that "
to moods such as make me what am cannot
narrowly measure his words. And yet from tho
writing OF over M ionr years: N every conceivable
ing from mind speaking In nyperbocal moods,
and In all manner Of states, about everybody and
every thing, out OF this mass tney have got only
these few equivOcal things.
'devices" did not refer to me, but to him-his
Q. Theodore said ne was born for war and Moul
ton probably bOru for dipiomacyS A. Yes.
BY Mr.. Clearcland-Were the plan and method
by which from time to time these things were
managed BY your suggestion or by MIR. Moulton
A made suggestions rom time to time generally
without any effect and the essen tia course Of a.
fairs. 80 far it has not been forced upon US from
outside influences. has been OF his tAoulton'S
o, He managed this whole matter with Mr..
Tiltonp A. Yes; he represented himself always az
having oil rne relns In his hands, as having in mis-
worst he could compel settlement; he intimared
to me time and again tnat he had such materia1
In nus na1d respscting Ineodore tnas as -, ne ss.6
By Mr.. WMsLow-Q, The learning the mture."
the burial Of the scandals A. No it wasn't either;
1t referred to plans BY which Tlton was to got
something to do: and do 1t and get some praise for
Q. The devices" did that reler to all the places
ana and steps ha ad been
''yes' or no" That would have been the whole
went into Mouiton's Maids, and MouI.
ton is q man that loves intrigue in
body, Gle would @ + not @ carve Cabbage unless ns
could steal In 1t from behind and do il by y de-
e ns es 50 ao n aa nss a Ss
He was consulting with parties here and
there and lsewhere, and great deal
1t would turn out that something was not going 70
be done. that he had said he would do and he did
ten Yd H and 1sa to es a
which he was moving all the time.
O He had cand0ned ''his wne's fault" What
meaning and general meaning but the general
meaning of condoned Is to pass over, to make
man would use II, not as q lawyer. Ii used it ia
q legal phrase the wsrd would have been Offence"
Q. In using the word "faulI," do you refer to
some particular act Of Mrs. Tiltons A. refer to
the complaints he made In general IN respect to
preston conveyed to me from the beginning to the
end. and that was that had stolen into his house
an ana M snat fa 1ad la tasen aavantage Oh ene sRc
away from him.
Q. And do you mean to say you had that In your
pose old.
q. You say In the same letter that he had "en-
to be tray his wife''-in what respect A. Not 70
betray this whole dinicuity INTO which his house.
hold have been cast. Consider how 1t Is,
nature IN the world any greater evil
can befal than to have . woman, q wife and
mother made the subject OF even investigation a.
1t respects her moral character. For no greater
harm can beial a woman than to be talked about
from house 70 house with discussions as to the
grade Of offence. and the probable nature OF the
offence and the cause Of the offence and everything
about 1t. Next to staDDinH . woman dead 10 70
talk about her virtue, and II the public suppose
that in order to interpret those letters | must
refer to vulgar, physical, gross indignity, then
they are living on plane where do not live. You
must remember that rwas aware tnat in addition
to the trouble involving my name, Mr.. !lt0n
had also, in fits OF jealousy, accused his
wife OF criminal intercourse with severas
gentlemen OF whom ! was not one. and he'd as
serted in the presence OF witnesses that all her
those gedtlemen respectively In his decent
moods he WINS very anxious TO have
such accusations unknown to the world,
the mere rumor Of them would cast
an lne1aceable blight upon his children
Nothing would have induced me TO make tnis ex-
planation but that MIR. Tilton has deliberately
chosen to cast blight Of precisely the same kind
upon those very children by his subsequent course.
ALI m q RO0ak Of