Bellows Falls times. [volume] (Bellows Falls, Vt.) 1856-1965, 1874-01-02
Westminster Farmers Climb.

sumed that secret societies we're opposed
to free, sound and general intelligence
| am of the same opinion still, that they
lead to mischief firmly believe That
they are the scourge of civilization has
often been apparent.
They have often been opposed to our
system of common schools and appeared
as their open and avowed enemy. Soci-
ETY. may be regarded as compound in
dividual. We have seen how disease
works upon individuals. They take a
thousand and one different kinds of med
icine, but none Of them cure. One
thing however is certain, money is al
ways demanded to settle the bill. This
DIR. Grange is a new DR.. He presoribes
little different medicine, but l appre-
bend that after he gets through with the
patient, he will be sicker than if he had
been left alone. Concerning the spread
of the oranges, l would spread them SO far
apart that they never would hear or
know of each other.
NATHAN FIsHER.-I notice that those
who are in favor of the oranges are con-
sumers, they have no grain to sell. The
question should be confined to producers.
l see no way that we can be benefited
by the oranges. | have some suspicious
about their future purpose and success.
They talk about elevating the standard
of education but | see no extra advan.
tage to be gained by the middle classes.
If men are simply to forward their grain
to their oranges and allow few leading
men to sell, as may seem best to them,
the farmers as class are not likely to
be as well educated as before. l have
no confidence in N. E. oranges. They
may benefit western farmers, they send
a large amount of produce for our con.
sumption, we send them nothing. If
they flood n. E. markets N. Z. farmers
can make nothing raising grain.
N. G. PIERcE.-I am not as strongly
opposed to secret societies as some of
the members for | believe some good
has resulted from them. 1t seems
stranger that men who have LONG been
members of secret societies should bring
arguments against them. If that Order
that has lived so long can be judged by
the people that belong to it, we must
admit that we have been benefited, in
measure by secret societies. History
has recorded many generous acts of Sc
cret societies. They always have a
standing frst-in this they have the ad-
vantage over many organizations. be-
lieve that many able men have seen that
great good could be accomplished by
forming secret societies, and have proved
quite conclusively that they were not de-
ceived. 1t may prove that there is
much good to come out of the secrecy of
the oranges.
H. A. WILLARD. Since we commenc-
ed this discussion we have found that we
were discussing an important question
and though we may have been accused
of attacking secret societies, such has not
been our design. What | say, I say for
myself alone / have read and listened
to many arguments in behalf of the
oranges, but | as yet fail to see how the
oranges are to benefit N. Z. farmers.
There is certainly one feature that we
need to guard against and that aims d.
rectly at our moral, social and political
relations. | think we should consider
we'll before we approve anything that
promises, through secrecy, to improve
our Intellectual and political relations.
can but view the schemes proposed by
these oranges as detrimental to the best
interests of our country. 1 do not be-
lieve that the best interests of this coun-
try can be safely trusted in the hands of
secret societies. The general expression
o. opinion through the press is nearly
always correct, and that has been opposed
to secret societies. 1t has been said that
farmers clubs are things of the past, but
1 believe this one is thing of the
present, and though public institution,
it bids fair to work out as great good as
any farmers grange.
w. R. KIMBALL.--Nearly all that
has been said against the oranges has
reference to their secrecy. understand
that we, as grange, should not be hold
en- to any other except for small fee to
be forwarded to the State grange and
perhaps as small one to the National
grange. As members of a grange we
can order as much or as little as we
please. If we wished to purchase -four
we might forward direct to some grange
and receive it at greatly reduced price.
And many other articles might be pur.
chased in a similar manner and with
equally good results.
o. l.. FIsHER.-I do not propose to