The Cairo bulletin. [volume] (Cairo, Ill.) 1872-1878, 1873-04-24

Tubbs' body and one used in
the pistol; there was great difference, one
was rifle and the other q pistol ball; the
pistol ball was very small, what would call
"bcll cartridge BALI Or. Grier and my
self weighed the ball of the pistol and the
ball taken from Tubbs' body; there was q
great difference, the ball taken from the
body was twice the heaviest; I don't know
whether the cartridge was of the pistol ball,
but the ball taken from Tubbs' body was
much the heaviest; they would not balance
at all; some men picked up the patching
Tired from the gun; II was checked patching:
weighed The ball with ball
given me by Wc.ly lleil.man.
the balls balanced exactly: was
not positive that Tubbs had not shot
himself until after he was dead Roach and
myself examined the pistol, and found that
1t had not been discharged; lust before he
died he said that IL there was not 20 many
loads in the pistol some one had shot him:
the pistol was iive-.hooter: have not got
the pistol here: myself and
Deputy sheriff Cain arrested Hoffman:
Hoffman said hc had awful dreams.
Cross examined by Judge Allen-Arrcsted
Hoffman one night IN the winter when II
was showing very hard; when arrested he
said he had had awful dreams went to
ltoach's grocery on July 20; live three
miles away from the grocery from home I
pld briskIy, and don't think was 2 of an
nour on the road; was about so'clock when
got there; did not find Tubbs there when
there at iir-t; Jorden anl
Tubbs came together; Holman came shortly
AFTER think II was hardly half an hour aftei:
was sitting on the fence aud Hoffman came
and sat down by:mc; can't tell the hour of
day We sat there; old man Price went along
| about that time; Price said show dye do:
Iubbs called Price IN to "sct 'cm ups" Hon.
man said "let's 20 In | laid mos" Price
ana bls son went away and then We went In;
| was about ~ or IL minutes before we went
III; Holman aud price had u conversation
about hauling ties; the talk took place while
we were sitting on the fence: Tubbs wanted
| TO hght Holman: ! pushed them ppart and
told them not to flgnt: told Tubbs 10 let the
boy alone. that he did not want 10 fight:
Iubbs tod Holman To get out of the house;
,lonin9h went out, aud over the dump,
towards home; after we let
the fence and went into thr
grocery, II was not long until Hoffman went
| out and started home he left right away !.
thlnk II was between and . O'Clock when
went 10 the grocery: was not halt an hour
I
might he hour. and ,naybc not ~ long
| Holman sat on the fence about minutes:
might have been 10 minutes before Hoffman
CT the grocery for home IT was probably
: OF an hour from the time he arrived until
| he flor home; got to the grocery before
Holman: after Hoffman lett II was about ~
or ~ minutes before we left for .Jordcn'.:
| Tubbs aud my son rodo fast; JOrden and |
came after; when we got there Tubb- was
inling on the bed; one of the girls came in
| Isa To-. H..
alter hearing shot slid We had better 90
down: Jorden and Tubbs live on same 10 or
20 acres of land; Tubbs had been
living near Murphysboro: Tubbs was sup
posed TO be my sOn-in-law: be aud his wife
were not al a good understanding when he
died; sent for a doctor soon after rot TO
| Iuhbs' house; was probably 90 minutes the
boy was gone after doctor; j. about a mile
| from Tubb> to Roach's grocery in west.
crly direction; the railroad run, very near
| north and south; Hoffman lives about hall
mile south OF the grocery, and ~ or 90 yard,
from the line of the road /, abon, a milo
from where Tubb, lived TO
where Hoffman lived, by going
through the wood: around tue
| road would he more /: about | mile or over
TO where Iubbs was killed there IL no road
| through the woods between the houses; wa.
on the hin from where the shot was tired
the gate i about ; or 10 step. from the house;
the door fronting the gate i, on the east:
south door u nearest the gate A; thu elevation
east OF the house standing in the door
have "a clear view OF the elevation
Wesley Hcilman-My name IL j. ". Hell.
man; have known Hoffman Tor or ears:
ala not know Tuhbs don't know much
about the ease either way; can't tell
| how came by the ball; had II three
or four months before the killing: don't
know where got it; the ball hts Hoffman.
gun; can tell by the shape Of 1t; we were
shooting about there; we had been shooting
about the Aine | came in possession
Of the ball; had been shooting
win other parties; was present
about ten minutes at the house OF Tubbs.
Went therc about ! o'clock; did not examine
the ground; don't think ever compared tho
BAH with the gun beOning 10 Hoffman
'r'ss examined by Judge Allen-Don't
know Where got the ball; think II would
ut Ionlnan's gun don't know IL Hoffman's
gun had been dressed out since | saw II; il
II had. been there would had TO have been
SON, gun.
IIpstimOUy confined to.morroy