The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-08-27
Will Tammany and Apollo Hall
Come Together
POLITICIANS ON THE SUBJECT.
Interviews with Prominent BelVideres and q
Talk with Mr.. John Kelly.
NO FUSION" FOR THE sACHEMs.
Senator 0'Brien's Strength in Apollo Hall-How
Mr.. Kelly's Animosity KeeprThe Bren-
nan and bowling Fight-The Breach
Said To Be Closed Up.


Said TO Be Closed Up
A good deal OF anxiety has recently prevailed
among the rank and file Of the Apollo Hall democ.
racy to the course the leaders will pursue and as
to the probabilities OF union with Tammany Hail.
Last years experience has taught them that II
tickets for local Offices are run by both organiza-
tions the majority between the two stools will come
to the ground and the republicans again slide
into ONCE. The general impression among
the rank and file Of Apollo Hall Is
that fusion between Tammany and the
Belvideres win be very difficult object, but
very desirable one To the average politician
instinct there are two great difficulties in the way of
the desirable coalition. The rst Is, that Mr.. John
Kelly, who Is confessedy one Of the most powerful
leaders Of Tammany, cannot by any possibility get
over his animosity to Senator O'Brien, and would
never consent to his being admitted into Tammany
Hall; the second is, that Sheriff Brennan, who,
next to Mr. Kelly, is the most powerful
man In Tammany, could never be induced
to admit into his organization the
powerful delegation from the Second Assembly
district which now forms part OF the Apollo Hall
General Committee, and which IL led by Judge
Bowling, Morgan Jones and ex-Alderman Tom Co.
man. and that the leaders Of Apollo Hall would
never give the latter up to join Tammany without
them.
Senator O'Brlen has already expressed his hopes
and fears on this subject of fusion through
HERALD reporter at Saratoga, where he Ia at
present staying. 1t is safe to say that Mr.. John
McCool, whom he has made Chairman OF Apollo Hall
against Judge Spaulding, and MI. Ben Wood, whom
he has recently introduced into Apollo Hall, enter
tain ideas on the subject Identical to those OF the
young Senator.
a. o'BRIEN STILL STRONG
With the object Of testing the feeling OF the other
leaders on the subject HERALD reporter called at
late hour last night at the residence OF Judge
spaulding, Of the Marine Court, who, next to Sen.
ator O'Brien, is considered one of the strongest
men in Apollo Hall by reason Of the republican
support which he could command. In fact the
Judge was the opponent Of O'Brien's nominee for
the Craftsmanship Of the organizat on and accord
ing to the opinion expressed by well known poll
Mayoraty last fall to the fact tnat Judge Spaulding
was not made Chairman OF Apollo Hail.
study ana alter the sn sui Of hs
late visit, asked him directly what ne thought Of
the probabilities Of union.
what to say upon the matter. One thing you may
state for certain IN the HERALD, that, as lar as
ANXIOUS FOR A UNION
simply and purely with SMILEY in the interest Of
we want to 60 into Tammany Hail."
.srnen what DO you mean by a union Judge ~
our organization. That viii always be separate.
What mean is, that If the democracy is 70 win
thisiall there must be an arrangement come to be-
tween the leaders OF both organizations II the
organization leif show IN county ticket afa
tsmiling AGAIN., to,make compromise with them.h
'Ihen you think that If separate county tickets
are run out that there will be dzzle like last
~ think that If some such compromise is not
made that when the county ticket made out there
will be immense division In 1ammany Hall, You
SEVERAL PARTIES IN TAxMANY JUST now
and understand that Police Commissioner Caar,
lick, who It Is said intends to run for the Senate
from this district ,a has made
slate is made dssensons win begin to crop OUT ss
the democratic ticket could not be beaten"
l.. NOW Judge, might ask you what, in your opin-
"Oh, O'Br1en is still very strong man; not 30
strong as he was before his last waterloo, but he
is great ,oirssanizs1 he knows everybody and
THAT may Pc: i i be 50 i am sorry for il. 100
10 ' NOT oT The ss six
weeks 4, since our last meeting and most Of them
THE BRKNNAN.DowLINa FIGHT.
Morgan Jones, the chairman Of the delegation to
Apollo Hall from the second Assembly district. In
reply TO his questions Mr. Jones said, as Judge
spaudlng did, that the leaders Of Apollo Hall
the sake Of the democracy. Mr.. Jones said that he
believed that q compromise would be forced on the
leaders OF both sides by the rank and file Of the
NS WHAT Is Mr.. oBrien's strength, Mr.. Jones ~
"O'Brien is still stronger man in politics tnan
30 yoq think this proposed union Impossible or
wei, think that the only thing that could pre-
nj nh a m
senator O'Brfen. You see ne said this feeling is Of
old standing. OBrien, in his very first race for
ONCE ONCE Alex Bfsndon, IN Keiy's own District in
which O'Brten resides The fact of their residing
81 es win
men to-day and shake hands tomorrow. Mr.
"fhen you think that this would render the
union with Tammany improbable ~
"Mr. Kelly's temper, think, would be the only
"What about the Brennan and Bowling fight Pn
"we, Itell you, and l think you may safely state
Of Tammany Han to US If he could SO have no Tears
on that score The Sheriff has been ill-advlsed,
but think he would admit our delegation into
Mr. Jones further stated that he believed that the
only thing which could weaken Mr.. OBrien with
organization for the sake OF TWO or three csndi.
dates.
sramne Of Mr. 5'Ben Of union is made SO as s' to
run Ben Wood for the Senate In this (the Fourth
Senat0raD district, ex-Recorder James M. smith
for supreme Court Judge, and John McCool for
County Clerk. In that case none of US would vote
for him while he sold his organization Tor three
men,"
AS far as the reporter could learn
THE OTHER LEADERS OF APOLLO HALL
hold the same opinions on this question as Judge
Spaulding Francis NJ. Btxby Is in Saratoga, ex-
Judge William @. Barrett is at West Island, and
the reporter called at Mr.. Henry L. Clinton's resi-
dence in Park avenue, but he was out OF town also.
IL is understood that he is little sore with some
OF the leaders OF Apollo Hall, but he Is not with
Tammany, that Is certain.
Ex.Sherfn John Kelly ON tho Situation