New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-10-23
JOINT COMMUNION.
THE REV. MR. DRUMM on BISHOP CUMAIINss d.
TENSE.

THE REV. MR. DRUMM on BISHOP CUMMINs's Dr.
TENSE.
TO the Editor Of The Tribune.
SIR: | have Just now seen for the first time
Bisbop CUMMINGS letter dated 10th inst Had been
aware OF ts existence would not have been necessary
for me TO write did Saturday last IL Is best
before replying the Bishops defense, to give him an
opportunity OF making II as clear and satisfactory as he
can In his he refers to certain authorities
thus: "strype, vol. 2. page 514," Haams Consttu-
tiona History page 22l" &c. Allow me 10 suggest that
he should give references in ertenso verbatim ct liter
atm There is probably not one In thousand OF your
readers who has at hand all the books that may De
named: and OF those who have, not more than one In
fifty will take the trouble to find the places and see pre-
cisey what is stated The references given by the
Bishop are also given at length by "Historcus" and 1t
would save trouble and delay il tho Bishop would
acknowledge the letter bearing that signature as his
own II it is not his own would prefer that he should
either print his last letter with his references at 1u
length or else say that he Will be responsible Tor them
as given by Historicus Another request that have
to make is the Bishop will be good enough to give
I'm his whole case Desiring only that the truth
shall be asceriained and ascerained without delay,
wish 10 have before all the evidence for the supposed
facts IL ia not desirable that the discussion should be
prolonged indefinitely. am anxious to close my part
OF 1t in letter. and do not wish to be told afterWad
that there is abundance Of evidence" yet in reserve
Iregre to see that Bishop Cummins has descended to
the arguuenhun dd hrldium. He says his attempt to
promote Christian union has been met BY "reproach
and calumny" Your readers will bear witness that
have not dealt in anything OF the kind He may con-
slider "reproach aud caumny" to ask for the author
iy upon which he grounds certain assertion but few
will agree with him. This point-he correctness or
ncorrectness OF that assertonis the only matter upon
which have touched The general question may be de-
bated py Others but I prefer regarding it a thing
ourht Il Or
constitutional methods. conhne myself TO the one
matter aud that solely, that the trL.h may be ascer
tanned.
Let me add, however. that am great lover OF
peace and union among Christians Bishop Cumnlins
is; but consider tina: these good things may be
bought at high price. They would be too dear,
think II they could be had without surrender OF
principle and OF historic truth. JOHN ii. DRUMN'
Bristol, Pa, Oct 81, 1873.
THE DOCTRINE AND PRACTICE OF THE EPISCOPAL
CHURCH.
To the EdftOr OF The Tribune.
SIR Two letters concerning the Cummins
scandal appear THE TRIBUNE of this morning. and
but few needed to place the points discussed
IN their ttrue light beg your permission to reply
briefly. 70 W. A. NJ who denies that the administration
Of the sacraments Is essentially ministerial act.
would reply that the Church OF which Bishop Cummns
Is minister holds IL to be So and deems 1t necessary TO
exclude those not lawfully ordained from participation
u the act Of celebration by special AS to the
propriey OF this legislation, which is not the point
issue It is certain that wero 1t not maintained that
ordination coners certain exclusive powers and priyi-
leges the ceremony would little else than q hum
bug and q farce. The American Church but VIM
iicates by her action the doctrine OF the whole
Church OF God That the occasional violation by un
scrupuous men of Canon XII, which excludes sectaran
preachers from churches, should be made argl-
,nent for still fragrant disregard OF law Is OF
niece with ultraevangeical logic in general and need
not be more than mentioned AS to certain hppant
declarations concerning what the Body Of Christ dare
do about its communions may reply that she dare do
nrecisely what her Lord commands-if any refuse
20 hear the Church let him be to thee heather
and as publican"
with respect to Bishop Cummins and his theology, it
torcus" brings relief the two essential facts stated
namely: that the Bishop Methodist preacher OF
that grade known as local licensed preachers, and
that although possessing an academic degree he mas
never had proper theological training Why chart
table explanation OF what might otherwise suggest Inn
mutations upon the Bishops veracitY should provoke
biographical sketch cannot conjecture
Neu- York, Oct. a. 1873. IHEoLoGicUs.
THE PARTICIPATION OF THE MINISTRY.
TO the Editor Of The Tribune.
SIR: In your journal of the 2lst inst,
w A. NJ, who, we all know Is the excellent DIR.
Muhepberg advances the extraordinary doctrine that
the Lords Supper of necessity requires minister at
oil But II that ordinance necessarily excludes the
participation of the ministry how can the good Doctor
himself, being minister uopehso w. 10 VI ooutso NC
does frequently y
Yetr. York, Oct 81. 1919