The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-04-29

He said he would be Dictator or the couptry vet
three millions OF damned tools who We're in the
q: When did he say he would become Dictator
A. Wen, he didn't TX the time particularly Qaugh-
teri | don't think he recited any poetry or cpl
about the breaking up OF the English Cabinet and
asked him what the effect would be; he thought
Gladstone would be retained he thought II won ns
be the overthrow OF the British government
Breads the paragraphs nom the papers) Don't
remember those words remembers q conversation
being held between Train, Bellew and Yates: IL
was social meeting, ana the Conversation was
very heated at the time, and know that cot ont
OF the cell as soon as could; heard nothing from
him tnat lea me 10 think he would do anybody any
his chair III the cell; he had blanket about him
that covered all his person; could not saw whether
hefad on pantaloons or not
DIR. Nealls examined-Made an examination in
Mr.. Trains case; told the District Attnrnev thar
ne was not insane refused to give certificate OF
physician examined Mr.. Train ~-'
2; what 10 your opinion; Is Mr. Train insane or
District Attorney-I object.
:. Lhe Court-Are you competent witness to tes-
lily 20 the sanity or insanity Of personf A. Yes,
The District Attorney examined the witness as to
Wnetner ne was an expert on insanity-Was
examined on the Scannell trial; didn't say that l
was incompetent TO determine in that case. The
witness was not further cross-examined on that
point.
Direct-I do not think Mr. Train ia insane. but
believe he Is sensatienalist and would suffer any
thing for notoriety; believe him capable Of taking
care 0fhimself In all circumstances and responsible
for mis- actions; don't believe he believes himself
in anything he says in the speeches that he makes
will get lot Of reporters around him and nd
tax tax to them BY the hour and alter
had BEEN footing those fellows 9 al th SAY time .:
with lot Of trash; with regard to the doctors
visits, one day after DR.. Clymer had lett he said
that no doubt DR.. Clymer thought him insane, but
that he had been humbugging him. told him to
stop that numbugging or he would find himself in
joke too far he said that he didn't want to 90 to the
lunatic asylum, although he could live there as
wei as anywhere else; he said that all paeans
he was one OF those who would necessarily 20 to
hell, as ne was not church-goer.
means to prove himself insane, but have known
insane Iai1; persons endeavor to appear sane.
ae Ma Haar J0nMhscn warden Of the Tombs testi.
he might be called the "would-be great American
was insane always ni impressed d0of me as
q man anxious to advertise himself through
tlsements Qaughter) he would say, "Leok at those
columns; they have gone all over the world with
out costing me cent? after the doctors retired
from their Investigations he would say to me- '.DO
You think have humbugged them enough for one
days" gaughter) he has been the great curiosity
OF the Tomos; visitors are continually calling on
him, and it is amusing enough to listen to him
without talking; he said DR.. Hammond was q
fraud, and that he had been proved so by some
case that happened in the army.
John b. Heath, clergyman, testified that he had
peen visiting at the T0mbs for seven years; con-
versed with MIR. Train over twenty times; Train
said he was pagan preacher; talked about his
property IN Omaha; said that he HAD been in four
teen bastlles and they all in better condition
than the Tombs; saw nothing in Train to leave an
impression OF insanity on his mind
The s-examnation of this witness was post
poned till this afternoon, when another Train
matinee will be given.