New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-10-04

meetings for the discussion. LII admitted by the dis
cusson upon n in Parliament. where tho Con.
seryatvo side call for prosecution. where like
Sir Charles Dixie and the Hon Aubcron Herbert identify
themselves with the assertion Of that view. ON the
other side II admitted by the language Of such
NJ Henry Fawoott aud Peter A. Taylor Who though not
approving yet OF the republican movement admit that
70 ~ reality and affirm that 10 has hold IN land.
and that 10 should be considered real movement to
be dealt with
NEITHER COHMUNIsTIC NOR INTERNATIONAL
HAVING put 10 you lie reality, will tell you what IT
II not II Ia not Communists movement. Don't
understand me ~ attacking Communism. That Is not a
business OF mine war not against isms outside OF my
subject But republican movement ia not COmmu-
nstio for although desire 20 cooperate with indyd
uals although desire 10 bring together In puror unity
and better equality all can, all and women IN
our laud. yet believe that all those who teach poll
tics for the present time shall be practical they
can You play chess only with the men which you
have on the board. II you play political chess, at
least must limit yourselves TO the pieces you have
those pieces being human beings which are 10 be dealt
with according their wants. their desires their msorics
and their necessities You change the face OF so
ciety with the pen with the sword. You wound
with the sword, you may guide With the pen. bat you
must deal with generation after generation, aud work
with the conditions OF society a. you find them zap
plausol
Nor is our movement an international one In saying
inernationalism The more we can get the IDEAS Of DIFF
fercnt nations into unity with another, the better
for the whole for each when he hears the thinking
Of another Of another must hear something
which will give him better vew-a better expression
which has thus far escaped him ann In favor Of the
communication Of ideas between the peoples OF every
nation. n kings may send ambassadors II emperors
may have empires and may send their ministers
plCuipotcntiary 20 empcIurs, why should not the
people who make the throne which they
sc on, do The samct II the people form
the armies which the Emperor uses, why should not
they too In their interest communicate aud inter
communicate. the with the otheri lApplausol But
are not IntcrnaOnaliss for this reason. avn open
a. direction n am wrong, for have yet spoken
where the platform free 90 the people 10 reply
10 my remarks Applauso.l We doubt the possibility
Of carving one get Of politics that eau ht on To
the whole world. We doubt Il the grievances
Of men OF different nations not different
grievances whether In one case the cvil Is one
relating 10 capital lu another country evil relating
20 government and these varied evils may not make
matters entirely different that sort Of iuterna-
tonai union with Fixed programme for tho dehyeranee
OF countries urou plan NAV not recol IN utter
misery upon the peoples through The Ignorance ~ those
who seek 20 direct the machinery which they PIT In
motion.
NOW Az ELECTIVE MONARCHY MAY ~ cHANcrn.
orr movement seeks 10 make republic In our own
land aud how seek 20 make 10 will tel YOU in
moment. Before doing that, permit mc TO urge upon
you the perfect legality Of the movement when first
ventured 10 urge In England that the republican move
ment was legal was laughed at The lawyers said |
was ridiculous and asked me- How can monarchy
lie poss bly, educated 10 overthrow lawfully mon
archy 2" My answer simple one. 10 England we
have no written Constitution. The Constitution Of
England Is simply made mp Of the statutes passed by The
Parliament Of England from day 10 day. No statute can
be unlawful with US no statute infringe upon our
..4sl., Frofga
for-althourh 10 my rcgtet. the Parliament does not
represent the country that it our own FAULT and
should not 50 in a country with parliamentary gov
ernnenwe are bound % that ParlaInenrs actions
as " Il represented that country. Every act Of |
Parliament Is making the Constitution q nc country
and wares from day day session TO session. deny
hat monarchy II what b termed hereditary mon
archy There is no such monarchy IN the country by
the law OF England our monarchy elective mon
archv Our monarchy stands by the will Of the people
as expressed through their representatives, in Parlia
ment and by night Of heirshp other than that There
are Englishmen here tonight who may tell you differ
emily Int my opinion alone n II were should
express Il with equal hrmness NV view h substanatcd
by the best Of legislators judges and statesmen
Our history speaks for itself Since William the |
Conqueror assembled the throne IN England |
We have had SC monarchies. OF these, 20 |
Onarchs assembled the throne not by heirship but by
election less regularly, by vote more or less &c
cuTately Of the ParamentA representing the people
ONLY sixteen have assembled the throne with claim
Of heirship or hereditary right Now propose 10 deal
with this question It affects the family now sitting on
the They and their supporters certainly cannot
contend that they are there by right OF hcrship for
thew seated the throne by Statutes XII and
XIII william III. which, following the Westminster
Convention Of 1884, deprived James H. Of the throne and
treated his son as II ne wac not existing and gave the
throne his family; that the claim Of heirshp OF
this family be entirely excluded, and people who
respect the Law. do bound TO that the pres
ent family seated the throne by virtue OF an act
Of Parliament that without that act OF Parliament
they would have no other right than their neXamped
virtues their great heroism their known generosity
and high courage their wonderful abilities as statesmen
and stateswomen.
MADNESS TNTHRONID
Vow some OF you may put II to me that, however |
much you may disposed TO take my view, YOU think
may be- likely TO STRAIN the case Fortunately II does
not rest upon whether am likely strain il not In
1855 we--that H. Won and had mad king: you were
beginning to shake him of YOU had broken the chain
that bound his madness To you. but you had him then
and although your glorious Independence had cast of
the name the thing its misery IN it, stain rested
on you end cursed your homes despite yourselves. We
had mad king left do not mean That he any
the wore for being mad admit that English mon
arcbies 20 on az we'll when the mOnarchs mad
when they sane laughter and do not pretend to
ur,c that the madness OF king Is any objection
30 far discussing the matter from monaTebical
point ~ view concerned. George III. was
mad. mad officially; sometimes have monarchs |
in our country who are mad, but not officially !
George ~ was mad very often, but not officially.
He thought he led regiment 10 the battle OF Waterloo
and that Is about he likely TO get 70
a battle. William ~. mad He wanted a
wooden legged lieutenant once TO kneel 10 him al a
ev6e Fortunately, madness becomes rarer IL u true
Mr. Disraei has said that more modern mon
archy r. physically and morally incapable OF filling
regal fnnenons; but what authority he bias for that