The New York herald., 1873-12-12
CONFESSION and COMMUNION.
Interview with DR.. Ever, Rector
OF st. IgnatiuS.
BISHOP Cummins Disguised with Low Church
men--He Denies the Ministry, the Greed and
the Failh-Worldly Clerical secessionists.


the Failh-worldly Clerical secessionists.
herald reporter called upon Dr. Ever re-
gently to see him about the subject which is so
much agitating the Episcopal Church here just ut
present that is to say, the action taken by Bishop
Cummins in seeding nom his own church and es-
iablshing another. DR.. Ewer's views on the ques-
tion are clear and concise, and are given as they
were stated In the following interview
~ think Bishop Cummins has made mistake,
,houga can see his line OF reasoning. He was
Methodist, but being under an impression that the
Episcopal doctrines were more IN accord with his
views than those OF his sect, he adopted Epis-
copaliansm. Having entered therein ne ionnu
q large body Of Low Churchmen whom ne
was surprised to find did not live up to the princ-
pies OF their own creed and the further ne went
the more he found that the largest majority OF
Episcopalans proiessed principles which they Ut
terly disbelieved m that the religion which ne
had believed the tue one OF Christ was not IN prac
aace what IL was in theory. He, then, becoming
dsuusted thought himself obliged TO leave the
church he could not sympathize with. Now, 1t Is a
unestion OF success or failure with him. II this
Church succeeds and DR.. Cummins Is successful in
establishing his sect there must be steady leak
age from the Low Church element out into his
sect The saddest part of the movement is the an
reporters, that he had received % letters from
Episcopal clergymen stating that they were ready
TO loin as he could secure them congrega-
tons The inference is tnat they remain traitors to
our Church and got positions in their present
religion but lear they win not have them in their
new one-a mere question OF bread and butter.
Bishop Cummins should inform the world VINO
BISHOP cUMMNs SINCERE.
REPoRTER-What are your FEELINGS toward Dr.
DR.. EwER-I think Bishop Cumnins deserves far
more kindly consideration and admiration than he
seems to have received. He found the Low Church
men, when he came to our church, claning TO De
the loyal and true portion Of the church, whereas
other sectional parties. He came In as Low
Chnrchman and found, when he studied the cues
tion, that High Churchmen alone carried out what
they represented. He then, like an honest man,
retired. He is standing proof that the Low
uhurchmen are not the faithful representatives OF
tins church.
Ii is absurd to say tnat we Romanize, when the
have caused the Old Catholics under DR.. Dollinger
violently to tear themselves from Rome We can
reope saH or there are pracpes between us
winch cannot be reconciled. That some high
'Churchmen have Joined the Catholic Church proves
nothing, but that the resemblance OF form OF wor
ship has carried their senses away, to the extent
that they must have utterly forgotten
AS far as the Apostolic succession is concerned
Bishop Oummins undoubtedly, carries orders with
him, but they do not consider the Apostolic sue
ministry. they have already denied The faith by
cutting out the Nicene Greed from their Prayer
ignore
have positively denied the two greater sacraments
30 that even though the sect succeeds in establish
ing itself, it viii. under denial OF the ministry
the faith and the sacramens, 1t comes TO nothing in
the end like all sects OF the past.
Low CHURCHMEs DENYING THEIR PATH.
REPORTER-What you mean by saying that the
low churchuen do not follow the tenets OF their
OWN faithS
Dr. EwER-when was rector OF Christ church
what parish being lostD had TO combat many
difficulties and the principal ones being opposition
clearly set forth in our Prayer Book, that cannot
see how they can be denied. Take for instance, the
IN the real presence OF Christ in the Host In the
catechlsm which we teach our children the prnci-
pie OF our belief is clearly set forth in the phrase
verify and indeed there" Nothing coulo be very
well more clearly set forth.
REPORTER-There was great deal SAID at the
time You resigned your rectorsnlp Of Christ church
~ to Your peculiar and somew advanced views s
THE oRrHoDoxY OF CONFESSION.
DR.. EVER smiled, and. taking up Episcopal
Prayer Book said How absurd all this is. Let me
read ou two OF three oo @ s from sos our
Church, high and low. Here is one passage in the
Prayer Book
hath gwen mp power and y to s minis
tent, the absoluton and remission of their sins.
Now, there are some portions Of the American
similar TO the Prayer Book Of the Church OF Eng
land; but the Rubric OF the American Prayer Book
expressly declares that in any alterations which
the American has from the English, "this Church
tthe Americanl is lar from intending to depart
doctrine discipline or worship Here is a passage
from the Prayer Book which is plain that no two
meanings can be given it,
Here the sick person shall be moved to make special
Confession Of his SINS II he ee conscience troubled
with any weigbty matter. After which confession the
sire it ''A' NAM D' "'1'0' ANU N'A''' '''
There is a similar rubric IN the visitation Of pris-
oners Here is another passage from the Prayer
BOOK
AZ man shan come to the Holy Communion with full
trust in Gods mercy and with Quiet conscence there
1re there Dc ANY o you who by This
comfort and counsel let him come to me TO other
BY the ministry Gods holy word, he may receive The
benefit Of ahsoniion together with ghosy counsel and
THE HIGH CHURCH THE ARGUMENT.
These passages continued DR.. Ever, are simple
and to the point, and cannot see how tnere
be two opinions regarding such clearly defined
doctrines. The High Churchmen have undoubtedly
argument upon the Low Churchmen, and we
cnn text and reason for our action while oppo-
nents satisfy themselves by having majority
against us and putting Us down by decisions OF
courts, In which each one bellies the other;
and mass OF decisions have been given, out OF
which they vainy endeayor to extricate them
selves and which have become so ridiculous that
the majority OF English churchmen no more even
In the mean time the Church is progressing We
hear OF Its advance, not simply here and there like
m occasional bush or clump OF grass, but every.
where, 30 that the bushes and grass are covering
the whole country. IL IL useless 70 resist that
which is right Ii will make its way In spite OF re-
Wiling and persecution. .'rhe truth must prevail II
the heavens fall, and now see the gradual accom-
pisnment Of the end 70 which have devoted my
mensons the reporter, thanking Dr. Ever ior the
explanation he had given OF his grounds OF belief
spd jor his ideas OF the new movement, left
THE Ida VAIL TRAGEDY.
Resrib"tion Besins-The Woman Metz-