The New York herald., 1873-11-11

erai Ryan, IL uelng aintalneu anu aUuuuantiy
susceptible OF proof when proof is required THAI
the virginius was an American ship and Ryan am
American citizen.
In reference TO this latter question the probaDil-
tiles are that no direct action VIII be taken before
Wednesday or Thursday OF this week. BY that
time, 1t is believed, more authentic and
PREc Sc OFFICIAL INFORMATION
viii be received in relation to all the circumstances
OF the capture OF the virginius as well as OF the
execution OF her passengers Then, should the
information show that she was regularly cleare6
as an American vessel. beyond the limits OF tho
marine jurisdiction OF Spain, and that Ryan an0
others were American citizens, 1T is proposed to
organize and hold monster mass meeting to pro-
test against such illegal and summary action ON
the part OF Spain. The committee having the mat
ter in charge are in consultation daily on the SUBJ
ject, and have already communicated with many
eminent gentlemen, with view to securing their
cooperation and advice or their attendance as
speakers on the occasion. Mr.. George w. Brown
OF NO. " Beaver street, Is in charge OF the arr
dge anu mas Already had conferences With
Beecher. Judge Pierrepont strongly advises =
course OF
as there will be nothing to retract as the consc<
quence OF too great precipitation 1t is the intcn-
gentlemen above named as speakers, together
with Gerrit Smith, the champion OF emancipati0ny
N. II
man and advocate OF liberty among all nations,
There IS little doubt but that the meeting will be
very large and influential one should the detaileH
dispatches show that any injustice has beeu
rashly and defantly done.
SAmong the Cubans themselves, although there is
union oil sentiment, there does not appear, unfor-
tunately to be unity Of action, and each OF the two
branches is working Independently ofthe other The
society OF amigos de Cuba" has its headquarters
at No. so Exchange place. and there was privata
session or the leading members OF that body hel0
there yesterday afternoon. General Francisco W
AQlilera. R0OuDC{
who was present, informed the reporter, upon in4
quiry, that the Cubans IN New York are cxertin0
all their power to tit out
NEW AND LARGE EXPEDITION,
and that the indications are now that she enter5
course nothing could be learned as yet regarding
the personnel OF the party or the point from which,
~ MANY STRANGE RuAoRs
are afoat concerning the capture OF the Virgniuss
which include one to the opinion that she was snr-
rendered unnecessarily to the Spanish corvetta
Tornado. Ii Is stated that the virginius took ON
board at kingston jamaica prior to sailing for Cuba
300 tons OF coal; she was decidedly fast, having
steaming power equal TO nearly fourteen knots
an hour. She left Kingston on the 22d OF OCTOBER
ing to the testimony OF engineers who have served
on the Virgnus her consumption OF coal averaged
would be very large allowance. Tha
average speed OF the Tornado Is about
pushed to Knots an rate Of speed
for war vessel under any circumstances. Now
in the time the Virgintus had been at sea- u 1t ia
the fact that she took board 800 tons OF cOal,i
she should have consumed not more than 200 tonsS
leaving balance in her bunkers OF 100 tons. FROM
been overiauled by any such vessel as the Tornado-
The insinuation III those assertions against her,
one, and as he is now prisoner, with no opportu1
nifty for making defence OF the charge, 1t would
be well to consider IL lenienty.
WHO OWNS THAT SHIP
A question having arisen as to the actual owner
ship OF the Vlrginius, involving, OF course, the
right OF protection, HERALD reporter YESTERDAY
called on General Manuel Quesada to learn the
facts. 1t has been asserted that she belongs to
General Quesada, but the General denied circumI
stantislly that she does or ever did, for ever so
short period, belong to him. either since ne mas
was was in Venezuela. He further % asserted that she
has never-since 1871. at ieast-carrcd any Otnor;
than the American nag, and she has always during
that period received her clearances In the HSuah
form from American consuls in ports abroad. IL
is said that she is owned by Mr.. John Paterson.
case OF the Florida, seized some two years ago and
oyerhauled by Spanish man-of-war, Is pertinenG
at this time, as demonstrating in some measures
President Grants views on the question Of neu-
trality:-
WHAT PRESIDENT GRANT THINKS ABOUT NEW
DErARrnEsr or TIE Isrrn.on,l
Your despatch o to-day came while at caDine1
your .ubesE After uli consultatioa
@ s sns : s! TO SppS e aas %
tss
ting out Of military naval expedition wsrke in a
have been instructed stop the shipment Of meri
chandse though be form Of articles conraband o6
The owners and masters OF vessels must simply
take their own risk in these cases But an expedors
whether OF armed men armed vessels intended tor
naval started in ports, then the questions
duty neutrals friendly Power arises, and
had Acknowledged the independence Cuba
duty and rule could ne whit different until we
OF the question by making upon the
other. You must remember that constantly
bought of England during the rebellion and
questioned the legal right 9 Engshmen TO sell to
risk Of fcapture but the Alabama fitted out t0
make war upon US q ship Of war;
The Cuban republicans must learn to make this dis
tincton before complaining Of conduct In this re-
spect have said above the recognition Of their indes
pendence would not alter the law. Yours truly,
Secretary of the Interior.