The Leavenworth weekly times. [volume] (Leavenworth, Kan.) 1870-1880, 1873-02-13

hem. He said he did not mean that they
vere selling for money, but would betray
ls. We had some little further conversation
md the interview terminated.
Q. Do you recOllect the day of the month
hat this conversation occurred?
A. think it was on the night of the
I'D or % Of January.
@. II in the course Of your communica-
lion heretofore referred to with Mr.. POme-
roy, did Mr.. p. say anything to you about
having seen Mr.. Clarke. in Pittsburgh, Pa,
With reference to the Ross letter. and If 60,
what did he say?
A. cannot state positively whether he
said in that communication that he did meet
Mr.. Clarke in Pi,tsburg, but he did speak Of
having seen him At Topeka, and Of Mr..
Clark's having left?
Q. If at any time you had any conversation
with Mr.. Pomeroy in reference to the Koss
letter in which the name Of Mr.. Clarke was
mentioned. II %, what was the substance Of
that conversation?
A. l remember we had some conversation
with Mr.. Clarke at the first interview. had
a talk with Mr.. Pomeroy. During the time
first referred to, he spoke only in general
terms of Mr.. Clarke having come 10 Topeka
voluntarily as friend. At the subsequent
he admitted having seen Nj.
Clarke in Pittsburg, and that he there paid
him 500 as expenses, and payment for his
time in meeting him at Pittsburg. He
stated the following not under oath: THE
next morning after my interview with MI.
Pomeroy, as already detailed, l met Mr..
Clarke, in company with Senator johnson, al
the McMeekin House, North Topeka, room
No. 40, and at that interview (COl. Blood
being preeent) Mr.. Clarke detailed circum-
stantially all his transactions in connection
with Pomeroy relative TO the Ross
letter, and requested that q legislative COM
mittee might be appointed to take his testi-
mony. The statement there detailed to Us
was the same as subsequently published ex-
cept that Clarke did not say how much Pom
eroy paid him in Topeka. desire to state
also that the question Of introducing joint
resolution to create such committee was
discussed by number of the members Of the
Senate after the adjournment of the anti
Pomeroy caucus, about that time. 1t might
have been the night previous, or the second
night previous At that meeting it was de-
cided not to raise committee. i now state
nv connection with it. When that request
was made by Clarke to go before . commit
tee Of the Legislature, il was decided not to
do so, and the matter dropped there. That, ]
think was Thursday or FRIDAY. i think
Sunday morning he conveyed to us his
willingness to go before one Of the Supreme
Judges of the State and make his affidavit
and give it to the public. I did not see Mr..
c. till Monday evening. and l then met him
in company with Colonel Blood and Senator
johnson in a room nearly opposite the Fifth
Avenue Hotel, at which time he read to uf
the affidavit, which he swore to and has since
been published, and consented to q" before
the caucus and read it, and thai MAJ the
night had an interview with Mr.. POmerOy,
and i'm that way no exposure resulted.
met Clarke before I met POmeroy that night.
IL was the night of that interview with Pom.
eroy, or the interview at which i received
the money.
q. State when and where you had yOu'
next interview with NJ Pomeroy.
A. l had my next interview with Pom
eroy Monday evening, January q, in I'm
private room.
Q. You will please proceed to state wha
you know of money or other corrupt mean'
being used by Senator Pomeroy, or othe'
parties in his behalf, to secure his reelection
TO the U. s. Senate, during the late Senate
rial contest, ard what led Won First to he
lieve that Mr.. Pomersy was u-ing money
corrup,ly?
A. Until Saturday night, January 25.h
had observed nothing that induced me t'
believe that MIR. Pomeroy was using none,
in buying votes, and had frequently beior,
that time remarked to Mr.. Simpson and
others that | did not believe Mr.. Pomeroy
would hazard the risk Of SD using money il
the face Of the Caldwell investigation claim.
ing so m.ch public attention. That night
was convinced that Mr.. Pomeroy had de
termined to use money, from three circun
stances. The first was, | observed that Mr.
Pomeroy's headquarters were nearly de-
serted that evening, whereas before they had
been thronged with his friends. The second
circumstance was that l was tod that MsJ
T. b. Eldridge and Hon. L. S. Kal!och had
each been seen to have 81 900 draft thai
thev said was given to them to b., with on
the result; and the third circumstance wa.
that late in the evening heard Mr.. Billings
a member of the House, in the bar room o
the Tefft House, declare himael
very empha,ically in favor of Mr.
Pomerny, and to assert repeatedly
that Mr.. Pomeroy's money had not bough
him. l Immediately went TO Mr.. b. +
SIMPSONS room, and, after locking the door
told him that / was convinced that We hct
now to fight greenbacks. He asked me VIII.
thous ht 80, and stated to him my reason
a. already given.
Monday evening received from Mr.
Pomeroy, through Mr.. Hairgrove, an inyi
ta,ion to have a private business interview
with Mr.. POmeroy. immediately went t.
NJ. Simpson, and requested him to &c
Senator johnson and J. Z. Horton in hi
private room as soon rs possible, as hat
something to communicate to them. Mr.
Horton was at supper at that time, and
should saw it was about O'Clock. Whel
Mr.. Horton returned from supper we al
went into Mr.. Simpsons rOOm-1 thinl
room IO7, in the Tefft House-aud afte
locking the door, told them that had jus
been asked to hold a private business
interview with Mr.. Pcmeroy that night
We all placed the same Interpretation
upon it; that, if accepted, l would be ofieret
money for my vote. 1t was unanimously
decided that 1 should make the venture
and, if offered money by Mr. Pomeroy, tc
take it and expose him upon the floor of the
Joint Conven:ion-that it was the only way
to expose him and prevent his reelection
They examined my person at that time, and
acertained that had $40 in currency and 8
certificate of deposit for $50 in the Kansas
Valley National Bank Of Topeka, which va.
all the money had in my possession.
think there was no hour fixed when l should
visit Mr.. Pomeroy, but some time thai
night. After l had left Mr.. Simpson
room, Senator Moonlight or Mr.. Horton,
cannot say poairively which one, told me
tina, Colonel Blood wanted me to 20 at ONE
to house nearly opposite the Fifth Avenue
Hotel and see Mr.. Edward Clarke, and thai
Senator johnson had already gone there.
went Immediately, and met Mr.. Clarke
Colonel Blood and Senator johnson, a,
which time he Clarke read TO us the aft
davit which has since bsen publ shed in tbs
Daily Commonwealth, and exhibited seven
teen one hundred dollar bills and an expires.
receipt for, think, $500, sent away BY him,
alleged by him to have heen received from
Mr. Pomeroy for signing that letter that liz
(Pome,oy) had read to me, and said that he
Clarke would 60 before the anti-Pomero,
caucus that night and make the same stale
ment there, which he did. Before be Clarke
had finished reading his statemen, in tn,
o,,,o,,. I >.t>I C..pafoe vohcaou if n ~on1r