New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-10-10
IRISH SUPPORT OF THE CHURCHES.

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IRISH SUPPORT OF THE CHURCHES.
iThe following paper was read az the Church OF the
Disciples aat EVENING"
BY T. Y. KIILEN OF BELFAST IRELAND.
/ have been asked not so much 10 speak on
the general subject OF ministerial support as to give you
IA bref description the methods adopted by the Irish
Episcopal Churches 10 promote IT, especially since their
Observation-Disclosures The rsh Church Act OF 1869 severed
the connection Of these churches with lie State and
withdrew the endowments they had received preserv-
ing however the life interests Of tue existing ministers
provision was also made by which ministers
might commute their annuties for capital
sum and throw the whole into a common fund, the
Interest OF which should 60 20 the permanent endoW-
mcnt OF their churches In the case OF Tie Escopdi
Church, power was also gwen 20 clerSyineh TO COM
pounds il is Calledthat Is 70 receive at once GER
tam proportion Oh thtlF computation money give he
remainder to the Church, ana se renewed from al ma
blity further service. Almost all the Elscopal
CLERGY pave tOmhuleu' auu as lne lncoloS % Ie
ntarles we're ~ many cases very IaIse, a NeIS MY
sum has thus realized. As the IN tins ara
not come into operation for year and "a half, they
appointed sOlIe coo additional curateS, who
were declared by the Commissioners 70 be
their life interests thus added very considerably %
fhe fund disposal OF the church body. hauy OF
Theological training thar they very likely in the
end 10 membranes on the Churcn but some
Of have compounded and retired IRON acuve G4ty
leaving large for the endowment OF the parishes
winch they bad been appointed, nut where curaies
the communication money sustentatlOn tund mas Deen
originated, bat II seems unfortunate that instead OF
HAVING merely one general fund Tor al Ire
iaud every diocese has its own sus'entauon
1lnd, so mat the weather. dioceses are likely
much better of than their poorer nelghbors, ana
IN the latter greatly to be feared the number OF
ministers must be very greatly diminished The susien
taiiOn fund Of the Episcopal Church mas lot been SO
successful might reasonably have been expected con
soering that IN her community the vast majority OF our
nobility, landowners, ana weather. classes are 10 be
- et,rcl t,nltiU and the support OF their ministry
FORT \ a
exercise of Christian hberality. Her fatty being
generally soundly Protestant. desired 10 take
20 purge their priverbOok OF everything which seemed
10 counteuance R0nsh error, aud prevent the posi-
biy Of the spread OF ktutsln Bot the Bishops were
op1seG 10 revision and have hitherto been able pre-
vent any important OF the boundaries Many
take advantage and withhold their Contributions on the
p.ea that tney must see what the Church
rs 20 toe before they Will give their money for its support
The consequence Is mat nothing IKE what should DE
sufficient 10 supplement- interest or the Communication
fnud so as 10 provide an annual equal the
comes OF the clergy before ishmenl Las yet
been raised and unless strenuous and united effort is
sp.edily made d is feared that existing ministers
are 10y death or translation large number Of
par must be lett vacant or united 10 neSADog!hS
PRESBYTERIAN MINISTERS INCOMES.
In The Presbyterian Church The has been differ
en Before ministers had two principal sources
Of pcone-the Reqilu DonUn, which gave 10 each min
tser SEQ A. Sd British money about $780, and the
speud which was produced By seat rents or the youn
tar contributions Of the people II ranged from $50 TO
a0o for eacn minister, rom 500 to $1,000 Tho ay-
Grace income OF ministers from both sources WAS from
20 10 $50 or above 500 AID you must remember that
money goes much farther with Us than on TINS side OF the
Atlantic. When our heghM Ilo'"" Vac Nilnuia"nn
feared church would suffer ana that as our people
are generally poor would be impossible 10 support the
same number minister's ana keep our mission schemes
In nrtyc operation. THESE Tears nave proved utterly
lrOundess Our alty offered thal we ministers WoalI
commute our ite annnirs ana tio" ne sl1is received
INTO a common fund for the permanent endowment Of
ON regaOns they wOuic do their best NOT only 10
Keen from loss, bul 10 eve MS Nv yesl IHst'du vi
The old aCg 6d. All our ministers except about 20
have cOumutcu The money has been adYautdse0usiy
invested and produces about A21V' year ln'ledu OF
The 10000 used 10 receive nom iie STATE. our
people Ead ue,u "J,'v ,a.,iT ,, NJ q ~ - - ~
had been led % establish mission alter another al;
,satons mad always been required TO pay q stipend
10 their own ministers, - the hcgiUp' D0nNW was
utterly insufficient Tor iher support ADOht ~ years
ago tue incomes OF many 81 qua -i,-4'vo. ' ~ ~
ebe th on agitation iOr the Increase OF stipend Was
,6e Tneasre of success. We had tuus been prov0cn-
rally lea % CONSIDER nd eNpOund 10 our people Inc
scripture principles 81 sSstenlat4o benehcedee ~ mad
heoI ph Ia teach them luat 10 j, tne UuJ OF Christians
10 dedicate adequate proportion oi thet lhcHhe
every I,ord's Dan WuCa they come mo dis courts.
Our trading layiueu threw themselves heartily INTO
WHICH AN ur nui, ters whose congregations, whether
rich on poor. contributed should receive an equal
operation instead Of ministers receiving less IMAM
when in eonnecuon with the stat or any OF our
sreratlOns having 10 DC broken w, trustees were
HDlS 80 p2 6 q "a more o,u we had received from GOV
eminent. None OF missionary enterprises mac beeh
t, M OF even suffered Last year tneY received more
man ever before. Our congregational supends nave
. beeu reduced ana have gwen &l5OO OF Sl25J JO 10
,r useuttiOn Fuud over and above ali OurOther eOntl-
SUips And the greater part VI TINS sun Is brought 10
the church Oh Lords Day ID envelopes once mouth,
aud uut mto boxes winch provided IOr The purpose
any CONGREGATION should tFy 10 slIrK their duty ana
.nrna ihe burden upUn others, We require mat each
nouid contribute At least al the rate OF penny per
$500 fr each anu ~ any fall snort OF tlis
49, ministers DO not receive cue full benefit from the
FdBd.
The TWO PLANS HARMONIOUS.
u.h,,.thus two sources OF income for our minister
. ,.,.,d the amount OF which vsnes with the con
.tion and the sustentation Fund, from which every
,nut,ne minister whose congregation pays the MN
- ,.,lrg .ation receives equal dividend. We
ibeui Hii ti,rt We should have both. The stipend ap
t"4ih ~ ths nrtuclpes Of individually A congregation
80" 1rcit no give more freely ana hoeraIy iOf Inc
ifsn,lerS ard laDors FOR their go01, imam iVr tne
- ,,,terst,c, OF A general fund. And we NY 10 Inuuce
c,ss tous 10 give the whole oI aeh seat rents 70
,.e S.tpend of the minister ana tuus nave,
,i.sfinct ana separate source o. 'noo"No ,,an,
support In order 10 DO TINS We asa linen, tnehi
rtoyide f0r an their ordinary chuch
Yelses reDt pay ment VI precentor ana ssAton' nen
l,.tf.ng a., fby collection OF weekly pneIiuS III ".
,burcii every Sabbath We believe that Wbeb fhu' VI
,erd te Corinthians lay by IN store every nTst 1al
~ inc week for the poor saints, he not only prOVoeo O
a ,rticu lar emergency. but. as - customary III scrip
mn lt A6 took occasion " lay down great pflAclpIo
,ptcb should regulate Christian hnapce IN all cDucnes
and IN an aVes In SustentatoE Fund we act upon
500 and mar We shOuld thus bear anOther's
burdens Onr rich and wealthy congregations nave
thus an oppOrtuEity Of contributing " the support OF
The feeble struggling I'D dlstsDt ana backward 10
seaitsred and yet The ministers are saved from that
IeoDg 0i dependence which 10 sVhteImos produced w