The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-14


each package bore the date Of the month in dg-
on all OF them; next day stated what
Of the sS M
him $1,000; this was in my room at Mr.. ROss'
Mr.. J. g. Horton called at my room that forenoon.
Johnson, but not together; the wrapptngs around
the packages remained che same from the time
them into the hands Of the Secretary 81 the
Senate in Joint convention on wednesday At one
suggested that the money $4,000, should be given
to the State school fund, but it was subsequently,
thought S1 to 20 no sns
eating the charges against Mr.. POmerOy; desire .
now to state what omitted In my previous ex.
and Mr.. Eldrdge each having 81, 900 draft were
impaired to me by John M. Price, Of Atchison.
This closed for the present the direct examine
ton Of the witness, ana
The Chairman Senator Guerin) then opened
THE CRoss-ExAMINATION
@. Did Mr.. POmerOy ever pay or cause to be pai0
the 8, GOO which he was to pay on the wednesday
O. In Consideration of the $1,000 paid to you By
Mr.. PomerOy. did you or did you not agree to give
to him in return any consideration than the prom
Use to vote for him for United States SENATOR A.
Q. Does Mr.. Pomeroy. to your knowledge. hold
your note ior any sum or sums OF money whatevert
@. was the $1,000 paid upon the sole considera-
ton that you should vote for and support him for
the United States Senator A. There was no other
consideration than that already stated.
BY Mr. Morrell1Iave you Ct any time, BY letter
or otherwise, applied TO Mr.. POmer0y for loan OF
money! A. have not.
Q. BID John j. ingalls, Senator elect, know any
extendsY A. He did net.
O. BY Mr. Hutchlngs~were you acquainted with
Mr. Pomeroy before you met him at the Tent
Q. How long had you known hims A. think l
formed his acquaintance in the FAN Of 1871.
q. Have you ever visited him at his house in
Washingtons A. have-in January, 1872, and not
slHce; did not at that time
BORROW ANY MONEY OF HIM,
nor arrange to get money of him in the future;
did not az that time pay Mr. PomerOy any money;
think never spoke to him but on seven different
Q. Did you not, on the afternoon of January q.
1 ea III at the oH Of the 70 pa r to s
and request interview with himS A.
have no recollection OF doing 50; do not remem-
D. NJ. Adams; cannot say whether Mr.. Horton or
Mr. Crichton was in the parlor or not when Wis
Q; When did you first form the intention Of ex:
posing Senator romeroy in the manner testified
riOusly was on the Saturday night previous but
did not fully determine to do so until Mondaye ven
9. Did you form this plan, or was it suggested to
you by J. q. Horton any other persons 2 A.
considered it seriously until as already stated, and
cannot say whether the project originated in my
own mind or at the suggestion of others.
@. When the plan was matured how many per-
sons were privy to 1t and what are their names 2
A. When the plan was determined upon on Mon
shy sgn' aoE
SELF, and the only persons ever communicated II
70 were George Peck and Secretary George g,
Crowther. So
@. When you made your statement in the Joint
convention did you not understand that Lieutenant
Governor Slower had been Informed OF the matters
A. did not, but want 70 make explanation that
Mr.. CrOwther said that morning he would give Mr.
Slower to understand that
WHEN 1 AROSE TO SPEAK
II was all right; when l came over to the Senate
whamber for the first time that day. at fortyaye
he had spoken to Mr.. Slower OF it. and understood
q. Did you know that the parties, or some Of
previously solicited Senator Walker to act the part
you took, and that he refuseda A. never did.
q. was not your only object in going to Mr.
Pomeroy's room that night to get him to offer you
money and then expose hims A. 1t was my object
to take money from him II he offered it, and eX-
pose him In the manner did; had no other
object.
exact more tnan $4,000 when he offered you tliatR
A. Well, it was with the object OF seeing how much
he would pay Tor votes
just as well as with moreS A. think could.
q. Was it not part OF your arrangement that
you were to get as much as possible, and, If you
could defeat him without it, not expose mattersf
A. 1t Was not, in anything ever had knowledge Of
breathed to me by living mortal.
q DID 1t not suggest itseli to You after you got
Sgoo mat you might force PSmeroy to withdraw
Q. Was there any understanding at the time the
plan was matured what would be done with the
that was that it should be donated to the State
school fund, and had no other purpose until either
gested to either Captain Peck or J. q. Horton or
both that 1t should be disposed Of IN the manner
adopted.
q. The first time you went to Mr. Pomeroy's
room you asked him to
LEND you HIS INFLUENCE
to assist Mr.. Gilmore did you notY A. Yes.
z. Do you think Mr.. Pomeroy would have offered
you money Il you had not Indicated to him that
q. At the time You arose to 90 and said that Won
had been informed that he wanted "busness
interview with you had Pomeroy said any thing
O. Did you not by that remark intend to convey
that You would accept money! A. did.
temptation before Mr., Pomeroy yodrselfP A. Mr..
PQmeroy had already determined to buy my vote
~ would sell, and had Indicated the same to me
by the invitation sent to me to hold private BUSH
ness interview with him, and contributed to
his belief that would SELL and in that manner may
have strengthened his purpose.
before you solicited favor for Gilmore9 A. Yes.
q; wnenf a. At the time met him at the foot
OF the stairs.
Q. what did he sayG A. cannot remember hfs
exact words, but when we shook hands he said in
substance that he had expected to see me before
that, and requested me to call on him.
Z. Do you think, considering the former relations
between you and Mr. P0meroy, that social oonsid-
creations would justify such reQuestY A. am in.
clned to think they would
Z. had you not before that time business trans
actions with Mr.. P0merOy concerning the interests
OF your citys A. went to Washington as the
agent OF my city to secure the removal OF the Land
Office there, and
SOLICITED Mr.. PoMERoY's INFLUENcR.
, Q. Was net b: +. Simpson candidate for United
States SenatorY A. know that he was not aud
had refused It; my name was never presented as
candidate, TO my knowledge.
q. Did you not say, on the door Of the Joint con-
vention, In substance, that you knew the names Of
members OF the House who had Pomeroy's money
IN their pockets, and that &C the proper time you
y0ul1 ayp fhpYn9 A ~
SONS may have made but have no recollection Of
SAYING anything that could be construed to convey
hat meaning never intended to apply any inn.
Dutstions to members OF the Legislature; in tho
beginning OF the speech was calm and spoke de-
iberateiy but as progressed
BECAME EXCITED
md perhaps made some extravagant expressions
q. In your examination you have stated that Mr..
pomeroy only mentioned three names Do Won de-
sire to be unde rs God that your imputatiou ON the