The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-08-18

and Garfield at the head Of the Ways and Means
and Appropriations--the two great and important
committees OF Congress
Senator CAMERoN-Ihe great mistake In that
Credit Mobilier business was the systematic lying
done by some OF those involved. Now the ques-
ton Did Dawes and Garfield lie about their snare
in the buslness' II the country thinks they did,
and in the face OF this Blaine continues them In
their important chairmanships, why II IL my
opinion that he win DO sacrificing prospects which
look very encouraging at the present time.
CORRESPONDENTS Morton a candidatef
Senator CAMERoN-l don't know. He is one Of
the great men In our party, and 1t II but natural
that he should aspire to place which both friends
and Toes know he could oil.
CoRREsPoNDENT-whst about the Chief Justice.
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Senator CAxERoN-I don't know. In my opinion,
OF all the names mentioned for the place that Of
Conkling strikes me as the best. look upon Conk-
ling as the head and 'front.' OF the able men who
lead the republican party. His management Of the
administration side OF the debate with Schurz and
Trumbull in the session Of 1871 and 1872 stamped
him In my mind as the foremost man In our party
Then, his management OF the campaign In his
state last Fall was the finest piece OF political
generalship in the annals Of politics. This, OF
course, has nothing to do with the qualifications
necessary Tor Chief Justice; but
CoNKLIN0
is eminently fair and honest man. ana every one
knows he is great lawyer. But cannot believe
that Conkllng will take the position II offered He
is too young statesman to hurry himself on the
bench. think there are higher honors in store
for him.
is all law, but believe the constitution disquali-
hes him.
is good man. Ihave served with him for years,
and always found him man OF the strictest integ.
rity. don't know about his qualifications as
lawyer. You know l am no lawyer, although Presi-
dent Lincoln onered me the Attorney Generalship
before he made me Secretary OF War. remember.
when declined the offer,
LINCOLN GOT OFF ONE OF HIS JOKES
by saying that he was sure l was lawyer, because
al great men were lawyers
CoRREsPoNDENT-Has the President said any
thing to you about the Chief Justiceshipf
Senator CAMERoN-Not . word. Some one told
me that he had seen Naval Onicer Lafin in New
York, and that Lanin had told him that he and
Tom Murphy had tried to pump Conkling on the
subject. but that Conkling rebuked them by refus.
ing to recognize their queries, and turned the con-
versation to other subjects. Lanin and Murphy
went to Conkling to urge him not to take It, az
they think the next Presidency Is within his grasp.
know that Justice Miller and Attorney General
Williams stand high in the Presidents esteem, and
learn that the friends Of Mr.. Evarrs and Edwards
Perrepont are working quietly and judiciously In
their behalf
CORRESPONDENCE you know anything OF Gen.
eral Buffers chances in Massachusetts
Senator CAMER0N-No; but do wish in my heart
that he may be successful. have
PROFOUND LOVE AND ADMIRATION FOR BUTLER.
He is very able, and he has oil that ndomitable
courage and practicaI training which so greatly
admire and which SO many Of our public men
lack The great curse OF our party Is the timid
vaciating, meek and demagogical fellows who
force themselves to the front and try to lead US.
Your Forneys and your Curtins and your Colfaxes,
your Garnelds and Daweses and Wilson's and Hoars.
l venture to say that all these
wEAK-KNEED SISTERS
are opposed to Butler and yet he towers above
them in ability, honesty ana everything else hat
Is noble and good. can never forget f.
BuTLER's SPLENDID CONDUCT AT BALTIMORE,
when, with his brigade Of Massachusetts soldiers,
he clutched that city rom the very grasp OF the
rebels and opened up communication between
Washington and the North. This he did, too, in
direct opposition to the orders Of General Scott.
Butler was at the Relay House. and Baltimore was
in the hands Of the mob. Our communication with
the North was cut or except by way OF Annapolis,
which was next to nothing. Butler begged Scott
to allow him to enter Baltimore but Scott refused.
He thought It unsafe until We were reinforced by
way of Annapolis. At last Butler appealed to me
and told him to 60 ahead, and he did 60 and
accomplished one Of the most important
acts of the WARRIOR events proved that had we de-
layed securing Baltimore much longer Washington
would have fallen into the hands Of the enemy, and
the Susquohanna, instead OF the Potomac,
would have been the picket line. When General
Scott had learned what Butler had done he re-
lieved him Of his command and ordered him to his
home. l refused my sanction to the order, aud
Immediately commissioned Butler major general
of volunteers. HIS was the first commission issued
to q general officer In the war. Those Of Dix,
Banks and Fremont soon followed. Lincoln and
Stanton thought highly Of Butler, and will now
tell you Of another fact that is not generally
known, and which will show you
how NEAR BUTLER GAME TO BEING PRESIDENT
instead of Johnson. In the Spring OF 1864 when 1t
was determined to run Mr. Lincoln for q second
term, 1t was the desire OF Lincoln, and also that Of
stanton and myself, that Butler should run on the
ticket with him as Vice President Accordingly,
Lincoln sent me on mission to Fortress Monroe
to see General Butler and to say to him that 1T
was his (Lincoln's) request that he General But
ler) should allow himself to be run as second on
the ticket. J. accompanied by William H. Arm
strong, afterward member OF Congress from the
williamsport district IN this State, did visit Gen.
eral Butler and made the tender, but he refused to
accept the position. He said there was nothing in
the Vice Presidency and he preferred remaining in
command Of his army, where he thought he was Of
more service to his country. hope Butler viii be
elected Governor because he wants to be, though
would rather nave him remain in the House or
come to the Senate.
THE BACK PAY.
CoRREsP0NDENT-Have you taken your back pay,
Senator 2
Senator CAHERON-Why, certainly have. 1t
belongs to me as much as any dollar ever earned
in my life. And do you suppose that would act
the dsmagogue, as some OF these poor devils
are doing, In returning IT. I am man OF large
wealth, and didn't really need the increase; but,
T sitna4od tsro. thazls mn