Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1873-01-24

Mr.: Ame.-Yes sir. They are entitled to all
Mr. Kelly desire to saw Mr.. Chairman that
you viii p,esse hold them 70 my order.
Mr.. CoLFAx AND Mr.. ANKs.
Mr.. Colfas inquired Of Mr.. Ames why ne HAD
not cross-examined him about that check when
he gave his testimony.
MI. Ames.-I did not want to bring il out
wanted 10 let you of as easy rs 1 could. was
in hopes il would not come out
Mr.. Ames to Mr.. Colfax.-Did you receive the
Mr.. Colfax.-I did not.
Mr.. Colfax then requested Mr.. Ames 10 pro-
dace his private memor andum book.
Mr.. Ames replied that he did not have IL with
the recess, and brought with him such extracts
from II as he thought necessary. Mr.. Ames
then read therefrom the entries, showing the
amounts paid to various members put in evi-
Mr.. Colfax.-ln conversation at wormley's did
not tell you had never received any diyi-
dend?
A don't recollect.
Mr.. Niblack suggested that the Investigation
was involving the character of "A number of
gentlemen and II all this questioning was 20
contnue he hoped the gentlemen accused would
he allowed counsel.
Judge Poland.-weu, IL we have LAWYERS here
Mr. Ames in n yo @Hr pTiysse me-
morandum book, which 1 hope the committee
viii have brought here, have you the names OF
members Of Congress whom you let have stock?
Q. viii you tell me why you made that check
which you say you paid me, payable to IS. e."
Mr. Allison, payable to VIM b. Ailisonge " "
A. can't say. For some Of the dividends
did not put in any names.
q. Did give you any receipt for this check?
A. No, sir; it never belonged Ia me.
Y. Have you ever told me during the past
-four years that was the owner Of this stock?
A. don't know whether did or not. 1 don't
know il anybody has told me within the last
four years that own my own hat. Laughter
do not understand your version of the affair
at all. gave you the check, and here is the
proof OF IL by the books. What is the use OF
trying 10 get around it or ever II?
Mr. Coliax-where was when you gave me
the check-in the chair or on the floor?
Mr.: Ames.-Oh, L don't know; 1 can't re-
member that.
Mr.. Colfax, ito the committee. III repeat ex-
actly as stated before, that l never received
never saw this check, and don't know whether
II was signed by y. Ames or Cakes Ames. Why
he made this check payable to s. 4. cannot
imagine. 1 could not have had added to my
income 81 200 without remembering something
about il. During the whole OF this four years
he has never proposed TO pay me anything, and
never told me was the owner OF the stock. l
told Mr.. Ames would not buy into a lawsuit,
and that ended the matter between us.
Mr.. Ames.-The check for s5S2.1i completed
your payment for the stock.
Judge Poland to Mr.. ColfaN.-Do you admit
that you gave him check for S53274?
Mt. Coliax:-I suppose 80. i thought at the
time was paying $500 on my purchase and in
terest, but did not understand that this com
pleted the transaction. 1 understood dividends
had been earned and were unadjusted, and
would 90 to make up the balance due from me,
but did not understand that they completed the
purchase. He did not remember OF MIR. Ames
saying anything about selling bonds when the
five hundred dollars were paid by witness. Had
the impression that the proceeds from those
bonds when sold would 60 TO complete the pur-
chase. He supposed he did pay Mr.. Ames the
1882 by check on the sergeant-at-arms,
but was confident that he never received
any check for 81 100 from Mr.. Ames, either
payable to IS. c." or Schuyler Colfax, or
bearer, or for any amount whatever. He sup
posed the check marked ''S. c." was some
memorandum of Mr.. Ames by which he settled
the matter after he (Colfaxl told him he would
have nothing to do with the stock and would
not buy into a lawsuit. He had received no
certificate Of the stock and no proceeds from il.
He had endeavered since he had been Speaker
of the House and Vice President OF the United
States to make his salary and private income
pay his bills, and had been in the habit Of max
ing every month or two a statement Of his finan-
cial condition, but had never preserved them.
Ii the committee would examine the checks i'm
the First National bank, where he kept his
count, they would rec that he always wrote his
name on the back of checks, without bang
asked whether payable TO order or bearer. The
singularity about this matter was that Mr..
Ames stated that this check was payable TO s.
G. and others, received checks pay able in their
names.
Mr.. Ames.-Mr. Colfax, did not render Won
a statement OF the sale Of bonds received a.
dividends, and you gave me that 1892 check for
the balance due.
MIR. Colfax.-Ns, sir. There might have been
slip of paper; a memorandum Of the s532 due:
am not certain about that.
Mr.. Ames.-I ask you if did not give You a
statement showing a credit derived from the
sale Of the bonds?
Mr.. Colfax.-I deny it.
Mr., Ames.-I am sorry to hear You.
MIR. Colfax--Y0u told me some dividends had
been earned, but were unadjusted.
MIR. AmeS-H he denies IL, and saws he did
not, i don't want to ask him any more cues
tons. That is enough for me.
Mr.. Colfax read from the former testimony of
MI. Ames, and asked him what he meant when
stock"
Mr.. Ames.-I understood You owned IL and
wanted me TO own it. lLaughter.l
MIR. Ames further testified that he called on
Mr.. Colfax the night before he (Ames) made his
hrst statement before the committee, and asked
him lColfax) ii they understood each other
Mr.. Coliax sail you will testify to the truth
and he (Ames) replied certainly: 1 am going to
do that He now supposed atColfax had got
an Idea from the testimony of Crounse that he
did.
Mr.. Colfax again read from the testimony of
Mr. Ames, and asked him how he made certain
parts of bis testimony then agree with what he
had testified since.
Mr.. Ames-I have refreshed INV MEMORY
since from my books and the books of the SER
geant-af-arns. dent think you can swear
nara enough here TO get out Of h either. re-
member all now, and have the vouchers
Mr. Colfax to Judge Poland.-I rest the cNse
sir.
The committee then, at one O'Clock. adjourned
until ten O'Clock to morrow.