New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-11-08

are spoken OF as II they were npe Chnrch aII0ys
Hoping You may have Wisdom aud the grace =, 70 DO y"
this which 10 homo, ana lmsrc ye yyq respectny
am ngn' "1'e''"' ''' J.H. DRUaM.
Bristol, Pa. Nov. 2, 1873.
4" UIsTORICUsr REPLIES TO DIR. DRuMM
| pprspyrrRI,S ORDERS CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN RE-
| cocxIzrp ny THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND-EH-
| DENCB ADDUCED
IN m, Edttor Of The TribunG
SIR: DIR. Drumm's argument appears 10 DC
this : Inasmuch no one who had not receive" ',p'
copa; ordination conservation could DE regruo 40
lawful minister OF the Church OF Engano' 'nero'''
| that Church necessarily denied Herewith inc ui"S
| teral character Of all without such oruers anu 20.
sisently cond not Episcopal divines 10 ho'u
Epsc opal ivngs, to preach and to assume 10 a'n"S'
sacrmcnts He refuses to admit AS proof that men no'
Tpi.,opaly ordained did hold such hvngs, the positive
statemepts strype Bishops. Hall. Cosn. Burnett an'
| Fleetwood, Halam Mauey, and kenle. You oN"r
| me Hilam a Witness" be says, "It DC adduces
proof what he he will he heard II not not nc
| gives none, and 80 | set HIM aside"
Dr. Drumm will hear prooi-some VIII he addneeu
Passing by the Caveierus and Corranus. two Protestant
pasors from the Continent whom strype states III MS
Annals were admitted TO prcbends-thc one al Caher
bury the other -. Pauls by Archbishop Parker-we
come 10 a noted caso-that OF John Morrison, scoteh
Presbyterian who received license to preach iro"
Archbishop Grindali IN 1854 See Stripes Life Of Grin
| dali. p. al.
The license given by the Archbishop reads follows
| Whereas we have heard, credible testimony, that
y0n the Aforesaid john Morrison about I'VE year. since
in m town OF Garve Lothian Scotland. was admitted
aud ordained TO molly orders aud the sacred ministry Dy
the imposition of hands, according To the iauloe iorn
and iite OF the CauTeh OF Scotandi We M ap
proving and rayng as lar as ~ us ne s
TO tins sacred function, done IN the nauner aforesaid
grant ani iDpart 10 you ia the SOUL wln an go9n WIZ
license and faculty. these orders by You taken To
celebrate divine OH ,es TO administer the saera'hents
| and sincerely to preach the Word OF God
| Taerc seems be flaw in that license Ii would
seem that the Archbishop fearing that in the future
| there would be some Drnnm 10 misrepresent hl'
oc,ion and feeling that it would not lac just or manly to
conceal his principles" expressed his views Of the Pres
bytran ordinations Of the Church of Scotland 80 thai
the painesi understanding could not mistake HI. opin-
ionr DR.. ID. viii excuse my using here hs own Ian
guage while simply changing the application. Tai' If
uoof Of the action OF the Church Of England by her
| highest dsnitary, down to the year 1852.
CrindalI appears to have partaken OF the hard and
charitable feelings OF Bishop Ridley, to whom he had
been chapaio who speaks OF MS dairy prayer or All
those churches abroad through the world which have
| forsokcn tue kingdom OF anti Christ aud proiesscd
oncnly tine ~ riiy tina GJspsl of Jesus Chlist We
now present q fact showing what were the continents
OF the highest dgniiary or the Church OF England
on tins point years later We are Informed by
Archbishop Spottswoode In his history OF the Church
and State of Scotland D. ola. that In $780, when he and
|
sscrat,d bishops. a question was In the mean time
moved hy DR.. Andrews Bishop OF Els. touching the
conservation of Scottish Bishops VINO, "a he SAID,
.mnst he ordained Pre-byters az having received no
ordination from Bishop. Toe Archbishop OF Canicr'
| bnry Dr. Bancroft, who was by, maIntaneh that
thereof there was no necessity. seeing where Bishops
could not be had ordinations given by Presbyters
mu,t be esteemed Ia wfu otherwise might he dou'ted
II there was any lawful vocation in most Of tho Il be-
formed Churches This applaudcd to by the other
bishops Fly acqc seed. and mt the day and m the place
! aupouted three Scottish bishops consecrated."
Our own Bishop White, IN his work on the Ctcchl,n'
D. 49, appeals 10 hs transaction in proof Of the modera-
tion Of tine Church OF England remarking Archbishop
bancroft the very prrato accused by the Puians OF
that day OF carry the Episcopal claims higher than
| had been done by his predecessors, overruied the
! objection"
In confirmation OF agreement the Ssh canon,
pas sed in 1908 to the point. THIS enions ON all MIN
isters before sermon TO move the people TO unite In
prayer for ChrIss Holy Catholic Cnur-that IS, for the
| whole congregation OF Christian people dispersed
| throughout The whole world, and especially Tor The
churches Of L igland. Ireland, and Scotland"
On this Macauay remarks Hist. VOL l., p. ~ In
the year Conyocaon OF the province OF Canter-
bury solemny recognized the Church OF scotand-i
church in which Episcopal control and Episcopal ordi
nation unknown--as branch OF the Holy Catholic
Church Of Oh s,." In 1918 Junes L. by proclamation,
confirmed the tabslmeu OF Preshyeran churches IN
Guernsey,
sister Elizabeth for the advancement OF the glory
OF Almighty God and the edincatiOn Of his Church" He
STYLES them true AMI lawful churches" With few
other facts with respect the Church OF Scotland
| close this article.
In Archbishop Sharp. with Bishops Farford and
Hamttonon. Archbishop Baucrofrs principle that Pres
byeran orders valid. consecrated 10 Sees In Scot
land Presbyterian ministers without reordaIung
them.
Charles H., IN his letter the Privy Council 1862
prcssly states: Such ministers shall take collation.
from the bishop OF the diocese. and keep presytc
and synods. he warranted Ifs their supends
other ministers or the kin iom."
As late l707 or the articles OF the union OF En-
gland and Scotland "rhat the Episcopal aud Pres
| byterian Churches OF England and Scotland shall be
forever established essential and fundamental parts
of the IJnion.' GIlams Constitutional History, D. G7i)
Bishop Walker of Edinburgh in sermon In 1891, says
The Archdeaco0 OF st. Andrews. whose name was
Widdcl, Presbyterian before the Restoration. He
readily conormcd TO he Episcopal Church but he would
gland would have been Indispensable HIS clerical char
acter Wan rscogtr1d without that Episcopal ordina-
| ton.
with these facts before surprised to read
in Burnets vindiaton p. 81 "No Bishop in Scotland
during his stay Old much desire any Of the presby
,.rs 10 be oIlined Ia Scotland afcr the act of Uni
furmty 1862, the samo plan adopted as in England
before the simply subscription dcnoting submis
| 10 the laws"
THUS much for Scotland. which suppose DR.. Drumu
viii admit to have been Presbyterian without need of
further proof. The OF Foreigner Churches VIII
be considered in smother article well ~ some oec-
lions OF Dr. Drunms 10 the Instances previously pre-
sened 10 prove that the Church NJ England has never
hy public action denied the validity Presbyterian
orders consequently that the statements OF her best
authors. that noD-EPi>cbph ministers hed lNngS down
to the Restoration. 1861 i entitled TO respect
| Ne,r- YORK; NOV. = lS73. HI5ToRCUs.
\ CARD FROM THE REV. MASON GALLAGHER
70 me Edif0r OF The Tribune.
! SIR: Yhc Rev. DR.. Drumm introduces my