The New York herald., 1873-12-10


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Mr. Butt prefaced his motion by O long and in
terestng narrative OF what may be called Irish
he gave statistics in support OF his sketch-the
prosperous condition OF the country before the
Union. IL was seifsustained. lrishmen ate
their own beei and mutton; their country was not
merely grazing field for a neighb0rng island.
y -.th the union all this was changed. IL was
brought about by corruption;it it had brought cor,
ruptness and disaster in its train. Ireland had
never since been satisfied. Her subsequent
and until that was lI granted there could not be
peace IN Ireland Mr.. Butt dwet at some length
on the O'Connell repeal agitation ana showed oy
quotations from letters and speeches that In 1874
0'Connen was favorable to such scheme OF
federal union, with . native Parliament
now advocated. Mr.. Butt preferred this federal
scheme because II would be enforced with the
least disturbance to the English Parliament There
would. indeed, he no real interference. Then los
Irish members would simply leave the Parliament
strng IN ~ roIsge seen had been
so at the union. The Irish members had been SIM
ply transferred from Dublin to London. There had
been no elections; no new arrangements
were considered necessary. Mr. Butt would
would merely reverse the process-bring back TO
minister. II He was aware. that among those
VINO had joined the conference there were
the UNION but he hoped they would
sent to waive their own personal views and
heartily Join the present movement. He believed
England had now the opportunity OF adjusting the
quarrel OF centuries. 1t would be good for herself
as 1t would be OF incalculaDle benefit to Ireland.
He had raised the banner OF home rule almost
trembingly and not without hesitation. But it
had prospered. They had brought it to what IL
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vigor, until the nag once more proudly noated over
"rhe Old House at Home"
NJ. p. for Cork who declared himself not only
simple repeater, but one who had been rebel.
The concessions made to Ireland had been forced
from England, and Mr.. Ronayne dwelt with force
on the neglect or Irish business In the House OF
Commons, and OF the di1iculties irish representa-
The resolution was passed. The Rev. Thaddeus
O'Malley wished to propose an amendment; but, as
tions to be submitted to the Conference, and not
to this one In particular the Chairman ruled 1t out
OF order, and Mr.. O'Maley withdrew his objection.
ISALIENABLR RIGHT TO sELF-GOyRRNMENT
The next resolution submitted was as iolows:-
solemnly reasserting the inaenable right of the
time time In our opinion. has come when combined and
energetic effort should be made to obtain the restoration
1t was proposed by
MR. JOHN MARTIN. N. p,
who while announcing himself still personally
simple repeater, said he had joined the home
rule movement because it had been accepted
people OF ireland, and he hoped it would be
adopted by the Protestant people as well. He
commend itself to the English people; but II
struck him forcibly, II English legislators cannot
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by the majority OF members they would send to the
English Parliament, should be. drowned in
lisn government should refuse to concede
the demands now made without the bayonets OF
and it was the only logical conciuslon-that, while
nothing can De expected from England through
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The whole speech OF Mr.. Mastin was iorcible at
tack upon the present system OF government in
make such an attack. for the very purpose OF
the Conference was to make good that at
Gated generally the nature OF the personal views
among the leaders OF the present movement,
need not further follow closely individual speakers.
These were very numerous, and to summarize
their sentiments, even in the briefest way, would
be impossible IN the limited space at my disposal
ried, though not without a slight Incidental dis
cussion which elected some further individual ex
Cork, approved OF the federal scheme, with the
retention oy the Sovereign OF the power
Of veto on bulls; He TOOK @ the
blame the Home Government Association Tor
frightening many people from the home rule move
inally home rule gatherings. MI. Butt protested
that the body were not to be blamed for the indis-
cretions OF individual members and Mr.. Murphy
repeated that he did not blame the association,
but individuals. Mr.. Ronayne then so far took
the responsibility of the business as to refer to
one large meeting where ultra opinions on certain
subjects were expressed, though the great mass OF
the 10000 people present were intensely
however, that he and others joined this movement
with a reservation They still retained their old
rule II firmly and ully carried out. II not they re-
served TO themselves the right to adopt such ac-
ton in the future as they might see Lit.
On
TIE THIRD RESOLUTION.
that Ireland claimed the right to manage her own
affairs by Parliament composed OF the Sovereign,
the Lords and the Commons OF Ireland, there was
long discussion. II turned chiefly on the subject
OF the House OF Lords and It's constitution, or
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eral constitution for England and Scot
land as wei as Ireland; but he was in;
about the constitution OF an Irish House OF Lords.
AT present there were about 100 peers OF one
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over this difncultys Mr.. Butt preferred to stick
as closely as possible TO Ine od
upon the retention OF the upper chamber. But
from this chamber he would exclude all who
the negotiations for the union. Many peerages
had become extinct within the last SO
years; so that they would not have more than 20
or so peers available for the new Irish House OF
Lords. He proposed that the Sovereign the
advice OF the Irish Premier, should create a num-
Der OF new peers, as well as life peers; and thus
the new chamber would be liberalized and nation.
allied The debate on these points lasted until
tion OF Sovereign, Lords and Commons, 80 as to
avoid discussion on details; but the resolution as
drawn up was IN the END agreed TO-
The whole OF Wednesdays sitting was taken up
with the consideration OF
THE FOURTH RESOLUTION,
which affrms the principle OF federalism, and
which, considerable importance was attached
TO it, think it better to give in full
That in claiming these rights and privileges for our
country, adopt the principle Of federal arrange
which would secure the Irish par Lament the
right of egsating and regulating all matters relat
imperial parliament the power OF dealing with all qpes
tions affecting the imperial crown and government Leg
isaon regarding the colonies and other dependencies
OF the crown the relations OF the Empire with foreign
and all matters pertaining the defence
stability ofthe Empire at large well as the power Of
granting and providing the supplies necessary for
psrial purposes
This resolution was proposed by Professor Gal
braith, who has taken leading part In the move
ment rom the beginning, and VINO declared that
he supported 1t as much In the interests Of Britain
as OF Ireland. 1t was recorded by the Rev. Mr..
OShes, p. p, who seemed to think 1t was the only
thing wanting to make Ireland the exempar
OF the world and the evangelizer OF back
sliding and irreligous states. The Con tinental