The New York herald., 1873-08-23

dtsorganixed seceded states had 20 pc lifted again
into the confederation-I mean the federal Union.
The suggestion Of third term came happily to Mr..
Lincoln, who hoped to enjoy the last four years,
crown mis- retirement to private life. There was
something more.
was to see n he could not execute the duties OF his
office without the aid OF Mr.. Seward or Mr.. STAN
ton. They engrossed all the authority, dictated
what should be done Though Mr.. Lincoln only
regarded their views rs far as he Thought proper,
and, IN tact, constituted Themselves the executors
question, you %nsi know, Ts'a%s with Mr.. ssfsns nn
coin, whether the stability OF the American
government actually depended upon these two
men, and he wanted to test tnat point. He thought
nation that could stand the vigorous onslaught OF
hall ner people, survive the blow, and resume her
the heads Of the State ana the War Department and
II was Mr.. lincoln's purpose to eliminate them and
call about him advisers, and not dictators
CORREsP0NDENT-Let me interrupt you moment,
Mr. Blair. Senator Cameron alluded to this fact in
recent interview with HERALD correspondent
Mr.. BLAIR-I have told you what know. That
was Mr.. Lincoln's situation. Grants il just the
opposite, and there, perhaps, Is the danger your
people "a New York have appreaended: declare
tne subject is more important Inan Ut frat sup.
posed: Perhaps there is danger in the ambition Of
shat man VINO tninKs ne mas become necessity ana
is the object OF the discussion. is iii
So long as the people are immersed in business and
are content with the course OF things they Will
get used to mest any encreachment on our civil
rights. It is 80 long since the democracy had
wonder it's enemies sometimes say IL is dead. What
is there 10 give life to party II it depends upon
money and office holders, or greed for gain and
power? 1t takes expectation to make excitement,
to arouse the masses to united efort. AS told
you in the 1rst part OF our conversation, have
great confidence IN the restoration of the ola DEM
ocratic principles l think see evidences OF dis.
satisfaction cropping out in the republican party
that is latal to third term for Grant, If his party
rash enough to put him again In nomination. There
are thousands quite as anxious to hold ONCE as
those now provided for, and that is an element Of
weakness in any party long in power. There VIII
certainly be antagOnism.
sELFIsHNEss IS SUPERIOR TO PATRIOTISM,
ceed,. within the next three years there will se
such o falling OF from the republican ranks as 10
max ake ne deesa OF tnat party certain Grans %
Those IN office VIII expect to be retained, and II
there is not enough vitality in the fortunate officials
our country is governed by one man. But have
confidence in the people more than in the poli:l-
clans.
CORREsroNDENr-Why did they begin to talk
about third term for Lincoln so sOonY
Mr.. bLAlR-Plainly enough. Under the example
President was reelected, asprants for the office
began their right OF securing the next nomination.
Incumbent would 90 out OF office. And / suppose
that is what has started the cry Of third term Tor
Grant. Do you know whether this is the tactics of
the republicans or has the HERALD only warned
the country OF what might happenf
CoRREsPONDENT-ThaI would be difficult for me
to answer. Yet old Brownlow and other Southern
politicians who believe in Grant pronounced for
third term Immediately alter the election last Fall
What the Northern men will do cannot say, but it
appears as though there was
SILENT ACQUIEsCENCE IN FAVOR OF GRANT.
The friends Of Cesar must necessarily be subser-
Went.
Mr.. BLAIR--Well, these are queer times. But you
do not seem to- take any notice OF the farmers
movement. What 40 you can Their order oranges,
disrupt the republican party, II 1t holds together
three years. The farmers are getting their eyes
party That HAS credit Eopiers to rob
the people, granted away our public do
main given exclusive privileges to moneyed
bankers that legslates for capital exclusively,
VIII yet hear the voice OF these accusers West and
grown up under the fostering aid Of a republican
Congress2 No doubt about It. And are not these
That is the way / read the newspapers Tne labor
ing classes must see the oppression brought upon
them by
for that Is just what 1t Is, and think hear the
knell of the republican party in. tIeir organiza-
Casa rism and third term movement tie tiIlers Of
the SOIL the toiers Of the country, Will do 1t. You
VIII have to excuse me rom any further en0rt TINS
be able little while hence to suggest something
OF interest to the HERALD.
bade the venerable journalist good evening,
thanking him heartily Tor the reception extended
your correspondent.
Various Views, Anonymous and other
wise.
Returning to Washington, Just as alghted from
the carriage 1 met a gentleman whose head is
silvery with age, who at one time occupied high
Office under the governments, and whose acquaint-
ance with the public men and secret workings Of
many administrations entities him to speak with
candor. The first question asked him was what
he thought OF the HERALDS cause In regard to
Casarsm and the third term movement. But be-
fore getting an answer further asked II he had
seen the HERALD containing the interview with
Senator Cameron and what he thought OF the state
ment regarding Mr. Lincoln's ambition for third
term. He replied he had not seen it, but he could
tell me what he knew about it, on condition that
his name should not be used. With that under.
standing he said id:-"Shortly after the war be-
gan, and the government was somewhat en-
barrassed to get supplies, Secretaries Seward and
Chase called on Mr.. Lincoln one day and told him
the Secretary OF War was an obstacle to the
support Of the government, so notorious had the
charges become that Mr.. Cameron was allowing his
friends to run his Department in their special
interest Mr. Chase especially complained and gave
the President such evidence OF the fact to make
it impossible for Lincoln to doubt the charge.
Mr.. Cameron received the suggestion to withdraw
in the same spirit it was given and mentioned
Stanton as the man the President probably needed
in the emergency. Cameron was provided with
the mission to st. Petersburg, but did not relish
Stewards indifference, because he thought it
weakened his hold on Lincoln. Returning to the
United States he determined to regain his prestige
at the White House, anu for the last three months
OF Mr.. Lincon's life
lie CAMERON sHREwpLY INTRODUCED THE THIRD
TERN QUESTION.
Mrs. Lincoln, who did not particularly like
Cameron was delighted with the idea. She COM
planned that life in the Executive Mansion was
anything but agreeable, while Mr. Lincoln's time
was wholly engaged IN the affairs OF state and
the people of the Cnited States, she was per-
suaded, owed this nattering recognition for the
services he had rendered and would render during
the second term. Through Mrs. Lincoln the Presi-
dent was reached, and when Cameron talked
the subject over with Lincoln he said he was
mistake about it, and should not be surprised If
the Senate Is not
PRACTISING THE SAME TACTICS ON MRS. GRANT.
You see Borie McMichael, Drexel and half dozen
wealthy Pniladelphians compose the Presidents
Jealous than simon Cameron Of the friendship