Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1873-01-28

more called upon to investigate than IL would
be 10 inquire In the weekly expenses OF my
committee to understand that make this expia-
nation without the slightest reluctance.
IN ANSWER TO QUESTIONS OF JUDGE POLAND,
Mr.. Blaine testified that he never had q dollars
worth of interest in the road until 1872. The
road was chartered by the state, the land dona-
ted to il by the state, and il was accountable "a
the state, and Il could not possibly come before
1 must say, with all due respect TO Mr.. Steven
sons better Judgment, that consider an inves-
tigation into the weekly expenses Of my house
hold as legitimate as this.
Judge Poland.-Do YOU know OF any other
M mbers of Congress interested I'm the road?
Mr.. Blaine.-Mr. Ames SAYS he Is, and r. A.
Pike. formerly colleague OF mine, purchased
$50 900 worth of stock in II. He acquired 10 in
an honorable manner, and paid the money for
BY Mt. McCreary.--Has tits road any connec-
ton with the L MON Pacific road?
A. Not the remotest in the world; NO more
ID an il has with the Baltimore and Ohio. or the
New York Central. Mr.. Blaine further testified
that he owned 5se shares, for which he paid
So 500, and had ever since been living in the
hope that they would draw a dividend; but up
TO THE time they had not. GLaughter.l He was
not generally In the railroad business; would
like to be in Il more.
O., by Mr.. stevenson.-Do you know how
much the Coburns invested?
Mr.. Blaine.-If YOU want 10 put them on in
VI siigation win send for them.
MR.. BLAINE GETS THE LAueH ON Mr.. STEVEN
SON.
O. What was the nature Of your transactions
A Do You mean in regard TO this matter. or
timber land in NJ aine, or coal land I'm Pennsyi-
vania? III you would like an interest i'm this
railroad, Mr.. Stevenson, i will sell il 20 you
lLaughter.l
MT. stevenson.-Thank you. Iprefer to wait
Mr.. Blaine.-well, That viii be on the 4th OF
March, tgreat laughter, and 4 will agree to
take il all of yoar hands when You are re-
elected lRenewed laughter.l
Mr.. Stevenson then questioned Mr.. Ames, and
the latter testified that he sold some bonds Of
the Sioux city road to Mr.. Blaine; thought he
sold him $500. but could not remember.
Mr.. Blaine to Mr.. Stevenson.-Ask me; can
tell you I bought $1,000 worth of bonds from
Ames, and paid him eighty cents on the dollar.
At another time 1 bought, think, $1,000 in
Boston from him. for which 1 paid him, be-
lieve, 70 cents on the dollar. That, believe.
was in the winter Of 1870 or al. I turned
them into the Messrs. Coburns partly at one
Iuice and partly at another; some Of them a.
high as 50 and some at g. My business with the
Aessrs, Columns is very large; embracing tim
Judge Poland.-That is not germane to what
We are TO inquire about.
MR.. AMEs WANTS TO KNOW II Mr.. STEVENSON
WANTS TO KNOW ANYTHING MORE.
venson and testified that Mr. Alley was inter
ested with him (Ames) in the Y. p. II, R., a.
well as the credit mobilier. Thought Mr.. ALI
Falls road. witness and Mr.. Alley were inter
ested i'm other roads in Iowa, all of which he
named at the request Of Mr.. Stevenson and
e'e .
The committee required me 10 come here.
Mr.. Ames-But the committee did not re-
4uire you 70 20 into all these things outside VI
the resolution. 1 never knew that it was
CRIME TO BUILD RAILROAD
until this investigation commenced, and I am
not satisfied OF it now.
V,,.lo Do. all fhra., nh
with this part or the case. The name Of Sens-
tor Logan was mentioned day or two ago, and
he is here at my request to make statement
SENATOR LoGAN's TESTIMONY.
Senator John A. Logan was then sworn, and
testified as follows: II have seen the testimony
OF Mr.. Ames given before the committee.
action 80 far as am connected with il. Mr.. Anes
said agreed to purchase certain stock. did
do 80 in 1861 or '6s. agreed with him to pur-
thing 70 iir. Ames at that time, and recsived
no stock. On June 10th following, Mr.. Ames
came to me ana said the stock was entitled to a
and gave me, which showed that the dividends
on the stock up to that time paid the amount
due for it and left a balance Of sS2s. Mr.. Ames
handed me a check for this amount. had paid
Mr. Ames no money, and he had given me no
stock or certificate Of stock. 1 took the check
with the understanding that II I did not
conclude ,s Dc, to receive the stock in few days |
four DAYS before asked the cash upon IL. Then
l presented it to the SergeaRt-at-Arms or
in his office, and received the money. L
about the matter. In the meantime
I received a letter from friend, giving me
some information about the matter, when Il
went TO MIR. Ames and told him / would not
take the stock. He said very well, and re-
marked that il was good stock, or he thought il
. good Notwithstanding Of the sort. /
paid him back the $50 with, L think, two dol
lars interest. Mr.. Ames hesitated about the
interest, the time having been 30 short, but 1
nsisted upon him taking it, and thus the mat
ter ended. The memorandum / made at the
time refreshcs my memory. I don't say this TO
the committee by way of excuse, or to cover IN
anything. but state the facts as they are
The stock was never delivered to me or anybody
for me, nor have 1 ever received anything d.
rectly or indirectly, except as have stated
here. i had no hesitation in making the agree
ment " it'll Mr.. Ames to take the stock at the
time, and 90 far as corruption or wrong was con-
cerned, there was no legislation before Congress
1t the time affecting the road. don't recOllect
Of any Legislation I'm regard TO the road during
the negotiation between Mr. Ames and myself.
As far as influence was concerned there was no
necessity for Mr.. Ames or anybody else making
bargain to obtain my influence. Ny constitn
rally friend to it. have always voted to sus-
tain the road and would do 30 to-day.
MR.. coLFAx's DEPOSITS.
Mr.. III. c. Swarm, cashier Of the First Ma
tional Bank Of this District was the next Wit
ness sworn, and in answer to a question of
Judge Poland stated he had brought tine books
VI tne pank WIN Nun containing the account
of Schuyler Colfax in answer TO the summons.
Upon turning to the account of Mr.. Colfax
Judge Poland put the question:
| Q. State whether II appears upon your books
that Mr.. Colfax made q deposit on the 22d of
June, 1868. .I.- E..
A. Yes, sir; 81 ,9Gs6s. tGreat sensational
Q. Wen, what other deposits were made in
a. june ed. sl,seses; july Eth, 500; July
Sth, $l5e; July 18th, l,sis.S. lSensation.l
The Wilson Special Cemmittee.
In the Wilson credit mobilier committee yes
terday after our report closed the examination
Of John b. Alley was continued, and he testified
that the Union Pacific railroad company stands
better in the public estimation from the fact
that gentlemen Of immense means are ready to
assist the company In any temporary emergency;
the road IL in better pecuniary condition now
than heretofore, with Q prospect Of Increased
valne; he had no doubt Of its solvency; IL was q
valuable property TO the stockholders, aud
would ultimately be Able to pay the government
Indebtedness. In answer TO . question whether
the company could now pay its Indebtedness 70
the government and yet rcmain solvent without
the aid Of outside parties, the witness replied IL
could not; In three OF four years, however, ii
could easily discharge it, obligations, but not
now; the enforcement of the government claims
would cause serious embarrassment TO the COM
pany.
Nj. Swami said interrogatively, Might drive
it into bankruptcy? -.
witness. do not Say that, but it certainly
/ would be an impolitic thingt0 force the COM
psny to an immediate payment; the effect pro-