New-York tribune., 1873-01-09
THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUED.
MR.. JOHN B. ALLEYS CRoss-EXAMINATIoN CON
TINUED-HE CHALLENGES INVESTIGATION.
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TINUED-HE CHALLENGES INVESTIGATION.
GENERAL PRESS DIsPATCH.l
WASHINGTON, Jan. 8.-The Credit Moblher
Inyssgating Committee met this morning at 10 o'clock
AL the members present excepting Mr.. Banks.
The cross-examinaton of John b. Alley resumed as
follows He said that up December 1867, the Credit
Mober shares bad no market value; he knew that two
sold at 81 and the offered at 75
but late December 1867 after Ames agreed upon the
basis stock rose value, averaging l6O and in jan
uary zoo aud later 22j. The Chairman having asked
question relative tAe shares standing in the
of Mr. Nelson, soninlaw Of the Hon. James Brooks,
witness said he had 10 personal knowledge to who
the original owner OF them, who paid for then; ;
it appeared the books that Nelson was the owner,
and entitled 10 90 shares there was conver
between witness and Brooks in relation to those
70 shares OF Neson he presumed Nelson paid oT the
shares.
Mr. McCrary asked witness whether he knew how
many shares OF credit Mobler disposed Of TO
members Of Congress A. Amess subscription,
heieye was on the books and Hooper's, Grimess and
INV own: Senator Wilson agreed 10 take 20 shares and
Dawes 10 shares took 500 shares but they were not all
for myself after January l. 1868 do not know that any
were sold to any member OF Congress at par did not
tno,r that the success or failure OF the road would
depend ON friendly unfriendly legsation it did not
occur 10 Inc any further legislation would be re-
quired and none TO the pecuniary matters OF the
Company II the fullest investigation could be made
into this subject, the public would have been better
satisfied especially after the McComb suit was instituted,
which gave rise TO much misapprehension; the re-
,poyal OF the Office Of the Union Pacific Railroad Com
many TO Boston was a matter Of life and death 10 the
Company TO keep it out Of the clutches OF Judge Bar
nard and Fisk; Fisk wanted the witness TO settle with
him for but the witness said he would never be
willing for the Company pay him single cent saying
to Fisk AN your interest is only s4" Fisk replied it
was matter OF dollars and that II the Company would
not give him 500 900 he would damage II 20 the extent Of
million, and Fisk did damage it 10 the amount Of
several millions by his.raids.
witness was asked whether he did not get and have
under his 100000 TO annument Of the
Secretary OF the reasurs ruling as to the interest on
the Union Pacific Government bonds, to which witness
answered that far he concerned he challenged
Investigation he never had any money not dollar, 10
use directly indirectly for such purpose; did ne
believe had the slightest idea OF influencing the
Legislation Congress by allowing friends have
stock The said he stock Janu-
ary 1865 his impression It included all the divi
dends he himself got any OF the dividends Of
tbe stock thus sold he sold stock 20 Peter Butler
Boston who he understood. bought II for Mr. Bardwen
Of that city.
O. DO YOU know how much money Mr.. oakes Ames
mt into the Credit Mobiler stocki A. do not the
books show do not know Of my own personal knowl-
edge that be paid 500 share for every OF stock
issued to him.
o. Did You not say yesterday, that he put In g 100000
or tooOOoOi A. No. Sir did say that hs individual
interest in the s47 100000 contract between $ooco
And OoO aud ny individual interest less than
tDOO0OO.
Adjourned till tomorrow morning at 10 O'Clock.
Mr. AMEs coRRECTs HIMSELF.
Mr. Ames yesterday corrected that portion OF his tes
tinony relating 70 Mr.. scoheld OF PenDsylyania IL
seems that Mr. sconed gave Mr.. Ames hoco TO buy some
Of the Credit Mober stock and took receipt therefor
but on examination he declined 20 take the risks and
not having received the stock OF any dividend tne
money returned 10 him by Mr. Ames' ana ne gave
up the receipt.
MR. CoLPAx ON THE MORAL WRONG OF HOLD
ING CREDIT MOBILIER STOCK.
During the examination OF YoePresident CoiIax' yes
rdsy. before the Credit Mobilier Committee, hs full
answer to Mr.. herricks question whether IT occurred
10 him " Ssss that Issrs wa D moral wi0Ds ~ Ihs