The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-01-22

that had You seen Mr.. Tweed A. cannot tell
uenntely; IT was difficult to see Mr.. 1weeu !hen }
IL was about ten or eleven days before salea.
g Was 1t before you gave this birthday giit 70 %
was alter that day or two; think my ticket
was bought three or four days before sailed.
the nth OF September. How long alter that was it
| you had the conversation with Mr.. Tweedf A.
About two or three days; not longer, me-. :.
| z. Didn't 1t look absurd TO you for Mr. Tweed 10
make such remark as that about WatsonY A. III
looked to me as though the plan was to throw the
| q. Did you take into your hands these papers
which you thought were certificates and when
sgned9 A. No; but saw enough OF them to see
that they were blank forms OF audit; knew tne
form pretty well; woodward told me that he was
| going over to get Tweed's signature, so as TO get
Q. Then they might have been signed by others
| for all you knew when Woodward brought them
| back A. Yes, sir; they might.
Counsel for the defence here announced that
| witness; in reference to the check for $4,000
which was given for the $685. 900 receipt. counsel
now In Court, but would be produced and offered
| In evidence.
THE REDIRECT
was then begun by Mr. Peckham, and the witness
testifed:-I had no definite idea to whether Mr..
O'Conor was acting for the Attorney General on
with him; had seen by the papers In Europe that
Governor Hoffman had authorized him to assist the
Attorney General to prosecute these cases.
Q. You were Intercepted as to the property you
had in 1867 or 1868. Have you, since that nterro-
CATION, made more definite investigation as to
your property A. have; was worth at that
time between $1,000 and 100000
Q. What kind OF a business had your A. I had
very respectable business; had had contracts for
work on the Tontine Building, for Jay Cooke, on
the Olympic Theatre, the Laiarge House, the old
| Exchange NOW the Custom House,, Church OF st.
| Vincent de Paul, vassar College at Poughkeepse
| and scores OF other good contracts.
Counsel for defence interrupted the witness as
| he was about TO name some other contracts by
| saying, mo- no; you have been blowing your horn
long enough about your business"
| Mr.. Tremain ito counsel for defence)-Well, you
should not expect to have the monopoly of horn
blowing Qaughter).
Witness resumed-I was worth over $500 OOO but
under 100000, when went to Europe-with all
| debts paid
Q. From 1868 to 1871 did you do any work for
other parties IMAM the city and county OF New
York; A. / did.
| q. About what proportion of the difference be-
| tween your means in 1868, from the time it was
100000 to $780, O0 until IL became nearly six hun
dred thousand dollars, did you make private con-
| tracts? A. made good deal of it by the rise in
real estate; the balance. to be candid, made out
of the city and county, had nothing to do with the
| agreement by which the item of 81, 900 struck
| out OF the bill for work at Greenwich my brother
| managed that business.
Q. Was that the same different work from that
! embraced in the 100000 billy objection excluded
and exception taken) A. believe it was little
mixed up in IT. believe there was some of it that
bill; had nothing to do with putting 1t into this
| last mentioned bill.
Mr. Peckham then asked the defence for their ex.
| hibits "a" and "B" OF Mondays evidence.
Q. Did you actually receive the money referred to
in f tins warr RAJ . a; Not r dollar;
| and "D.''
| Witness continued-I never received a dollar of
this; endorsed the check but never had it in my
possession.
| Q. State the transaction under which you en-
| dorsed 1t. A. Mr.. Tweed filed out this check and
handed 1t to me for endorsement and then he re-
tanned the cheek as well as the bills and receipt.
Mr.. Tremain-You never had the check in your
hands, A. swear never had it in my hands.
Exhibits ''F'' and &c" were bill and check for
$225oO. Witness said:-I gave the receipt to
Woodward and he took 1t away; when he came
back again he gave me this check and endorsed
1T; ne took 1t away again and took II to Tweed;
don't know whether he took 1t to Tweed, exactly
bar that.
Witness then identified his own bank books on
transcript from the books OF the East River Bank,
In in which he had an account, was also produced,
witness testified that these showed all the deal.
ings had by him during part OF 1868 1862 1870 and
part OF 1871 he deposited almost all his own
once lngersol nad made deposit to witness
account.
Mr.. Fullerton. for the Defence rose to discuss a
minor question at this stage and the witness inter-
polated some remark which led Mr.. Fullerton to
say that he was not addressing the witness but the
Court.
Wltness-Pardon me, sir.
Mr.. Fullerton SHARPLY. almost savagely)-You
will require pardon from some one else than me
before you are through with this. (Sensation.)
BY Mr.. Fullerton-Who made the deposits in this
fh,
A. Myself and my brother.
Q. Did You always deposit the checks you re-
A. Yes, sir; except some small checks.
The books and transcript were offered in evil
dence and objected to. The books were admitted
but the transcript was excluded there was
nothing to show its accuracy or authenticity. One
Of the clerks of the East River Bank will be called
on to verify 1t.
Mr.. Peckham to witness-I call your attention to
this item OF deposit, $685. 7O4 A. under date October
2s, 1859, in the Broadway Bank. Was that a depo-
& n n " 20
1t was not; that was warrant 1.-THE eastman
warranty.
Mr.. Peckham then read the items of deposit in
concluded,
Mr.. Fullerton asked to be allowed to read also.
He was handed the book and read OF dozen or
more Of deposirs-sOme OF them for very large
amounts-and then handed the book back.
Mr.. Peckham ito Mr. FullertOn)-Well suppose
you were looking for that $4,000 check Did you
Mr.. Fullerton-Yes, I found it it is there.
check deposit. then
Mr.. Fuierton-Yes, it is in there somewhere.
That's all right.
Mr.. PecKham then read from the Bowery Bank
book, and having finished reading turned and
offered 1t to Mr.. Fullerton, SAYING
''Here, do you want to finish reading this Per-
haps you may find that check deposited here"
ION, no." retorted Mr.. Fullerton, II don't want
to finish that. found the check in the other book
1t is somewhere in there"
1t was now four o'clock, and after brief con.
Mr. Field rose and said that the gentlemen en-.
gagged In the defence understood that their friend
General Tremain was quite i'll, and in such con-
dtion that 1t would be perhaps dangerous to over
task him too severely. While the defence was .
DESTROYS OF pushing the case through as rapidly as
circumstances would permit they were perfectly
willing that the Court.should adjourn Tor such time
as might be necessary for his health.
Mr.. Tremain thanked the defence for their
courtesy and said he would only ask ior single
day OF rest, and thought that he would be ready TO
proceed on Thursday.
Judge Davis then directed that the Court lac ad-
jOurned until Thursday morning, at hall-past ten
O'Clock, and the days proceedings were thus
brought to q close.
THE JUMEL ESTATE CASE.