The New York herald., 1873-10-10

/ necessary In tine question OIL marriage, ana IL was
| very desirable that man and his wife should
| know whether they are married or not. Cheers
| and laughter Mr.. Girdlestone then expounaed at
length the abstract principles on the relation OF
On 1
all Christian law was founded on the Ten Com
A CANADIAN DELEGATE
The Rev. G. NJ GRANT OF Canada, defended
Canon Fremantle's views aud said that he thought
that IN the expression OF these views they mad
been greatly misunderstood. Mr.. Fremantle had
referred, by way OF Illustration, to the fact that
the Church OF England needed the reformation,
but what he (the Canon) was seeking for was the
making OF nation Christian. Now the Alliance
had nothing to do with what any nation did as TO
Its own support and organization. He proceeded
TO show the absurdity by the deduction OF certain
facts OF the absurdity OF the reasoning that the
Church mad nothing to do with tina: which Is
The discussion was continued by the Dean OF
Canterbury and by Scotch delegate. Alter these
question OF Christian unity in very fervid elo
uuence, and with power that brought out enthu-
siastic plaudits IRON the audience.
OF the benediction the session was adjourned until
| this morning, at ten O'CLOCK
| At ST. PauIs Methodist Episcopal Church.
| The second section OF the Alliance reassembled
yesterday morning, at st. Paul's Methodist church.
| on Fourth avenue. The Rev. DR.. George L.
! Crooks was chosen chairman. The session was
opened by the Rev. Mr.. Merwin. The general topic
ior the day was christianity and Liberty"
President ". Il. cAMpDELI- D. D., OF Rutgers gers
College, New Brunswick. N. j., read the nrst
paper. entitled .The influence OF Christianity
Upon Civil and Religious Liberty" The speaker
Teason nas SPEAKS the action OF brnts
It IS this force, intensified by the spirit OF
evil aa Of is in as sne Of the
clpal agent IN this work OF reformation;
Knox and Mary, Queen OF Scots to show ihe in1u-
ence OF Heaven in restraining vicious desires and
soes liberty sxeap IN the
whose fundamental principle was, Thou shalt
love thy neighbor as thyself." During the nrst
three centuries the governments everywhere were
heathenish, and Christian could not hold oflice
under them. Now Christianity abolishes slavery,
gives women ana children their rights and gives
'rhe Hon. L. NJ Curry, LII. D., of Richmond, Va.
followed Dr. Campbell upon the same Topic.
from civil moiestatlons Liberty is not unre-
strained license; II imposes laws and Obligations
as well as guarantees privileges. The right OF iree-
dom OF worship Is sacred. When Church and
| State are united the State practically as
shall be the church, and not unfreluently uses
civil officers TO enforce religious discipline. Sepa-
ration OF church rom State means freedom from
political innuences 1t means that the state must
not interfere between conscience and God 1t
means. "Render unto Caesar the things that are
C9sars, and unto God the things that are Gods.'
Religion here is neither fettered nor endowed.
Extracts from the constitution were quoted TO
illustrate this point Religious liberty was not
considered by the trainers OF constitution
anything but right. Religious liberty
Established fact meeting the hearty approval OF
every religious denomination and political party
throughout our broad land. The union OF
injurious in practical operation. The estab-
lishment OF a union would De an injury to
could be mentioned are powerful Illustrations OF
this truth. A national church is based upon the
Of tRs Church The ehurca when aSas
united offers a premium upon hypocrisy, Ior
men affect religion in order to become sneritfs
magistrates, or to gain some civil Office Under
sucn union a mans right TO worship God is not
God given but a political grace. union is wrong
to citizens generally. 1t robs them OF their prop
erty: for when a government takes from the peo-
pie more than enough for its legitimate affairs it
commits robbery. 1t is wrong to our holy re-
upon civic power, it disownS the Holy SPIRIT and
seeks other enJoyments OF peace.
THR LIBERTY OF SPEECH.
At this point in Mr.. Curry's lecture the bell was
rung, marking the end of the half nour. The audi
ence became clamorous Tor continuance. The
chairman, Dr. Crooks. said that as many invited
guests from abroad entertained views entirely at
variance to those expressed by the speaker, he
thought that it would be discourteous, unlike
Americans, and unchristian to permit the discus
dTowned in cries for ..curry.n Mt curry rose and
said in response, that he abided By the decision OF
the chairman as regarded the rule OF limitation,
vet he wisheu most emphatically TO protest
against being termed by the chairman either ''un-
christian or dscourteousr terrific uproar
followed. DR.. Crooks finally persuaded the au-
dlence to become partially reconciled and stated
In explanation that he had been informed BY a
visiting friend that the discussion very painful
to him, and he doubted not that it was to many
Others. Personally the chairman said that he
agreed with the views Of Mr. Curry, but respect for
the fee ling5 OF guests OF the Alliance made it i'm
perative that the discussion should cease at that
point
LECTURE BY DR.. GOODWIN.
The third paper was read by Professor ID. r.
Goodwin D. D., OF the Divinity School. Philadelphia,
on the topic, "The effects OF Civil and Religious
Liberty upon Christianity.n
By Christianity we understand religious hierarchy
but the iai,h sesiorth BY Christ By liberty we UNDER
liberty is best secured where the people are their own
sen with he most prsis crseds 6hEIs religion was was
@ m IL M he fna Az ws sOr HIS s co oa
panons were chosen among fishermen and He took
e s
esg Ssae M Sa sd sy s the
contention agan, the most yrannical government OF
ious liberty te be used CLOAK oi seashness
Sa S ministers Gad aSs
proved as such by abuse aud toll such was the condi
the nascen Christian faith Christianity lays the only
% sR
that the weak and poor Should Ie oppTss.ed Ty the
ernment by the people and or the people.
When we consider what have been the effects Of
s cy we see that wher
$50 Is found the most WIDESPREAD chTsiaaIty There
may oe many ether nnuences avoraple 20 elv liberty
besides Christianity, them entirely distinct
religion Christianity Its proper religious purpose
which Is 10 lead his higher state in which Is de-
veoped all that noble, great and manly such religion
comes TO raise the alen and 70 reform the gracious and
cannot be anything else than the harbnger civilza
on Mans nature is radically perverted and the best
ntenons may be OF little service toward bringing good
results Though the evils OF mans nature crop out
everywhere knowledge is the ioser parent OF cviliza
tion In understanding admonished 10 be
Men are what Christianity wants Therefore. as civil
sseathearieS men Just that degree does i further
the advance Of Christianity. ALI the horrors OF the
French Revolution resulted not from civil liberty,
but from the long centuries Of grinding and oppression
through which the people OF France had gone. Many
men Will insist upon eating the dogmas OF inAdety
with every European movement civil liberty Athe-
ism and iThdefy furnished by such fanatics with
their greatest arguments But civil liberty has never
of civil liberty furnish the Christians Error
rupion and conscious weakness may be intolerant,
who must be laced in straitjacket 10 keep
him in the aith. This policy would not have worked