The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1873-01-25

Mr.. Ames-Well, this is no proof in tn
case as far as l can sec, either Tor O.
against mo.
Judge Poland to Ames-If you desirl
to make q statement in reference to thl
conversation held between yourself anC
Crounse, you can do 80 now.
Mr.. Ames-0h, l had no conversation
with him; 1t was q mere casual conversa
tion, and I did not say five words;
don't remember Of saying anything abou
Coliax.
Judge Poland-You knew he was &
newspaper reporterI Answer-Yes, sir
Kelley-(To Ames)-Do the ten shares
OF Credit Mobtlier stock placed in the
hands Of the Chairman of the Commit
teo and subject to my order bear any por.
ton Of the dividends under Oakes Ames
contract. Ames-Yes, Sir, they arc en-
titled to all the dividends.
Kelley-I desire to say, Mr.. Chairman,
that you will please hold them subject to
my order.
Colfax enquired of Ames why he did
not cross examine him about that check
when he gave his testimony. Ames-1
did not want to bring it out. l wanted
to let you of as easy as l could. l was
in hopesit would not come out.
Ames to Coliax-Did you receive the
$1,90O. Al did not.
Collax then requested Ames 10 produce
his private memorandum book.
Ames replied that he did not have it
with him, but that he had refreshed his
memory during the recess and brought
with him such extracts from 1t as he
thought necessary. Ames then read
therefrom extracts showing the amounts
paid to various members which was put
in evidence on Wednesday.
Colfax-InR conversation at Wormley's
did lnot tell you I had never received
any dlvidends2 Al don't recollect.
MIR. Niblack suggested that the investi.
CATION was involving the character of o
number Of gentlemen, and if all this
questioning was to continue he hoped the
gentlemen accused would be allowed
counsel.
Judge Poland-Well, II we have law
yers here we will have to go all over the
matter again.
Mr.. Colfax-Mr. Ames, in your private
memorandum book, which l hope the
committee will have brought here, have
you the names of members of Congress
whom you let have stock2 A.-Yes sir.
Q.-Will you tell me when you made
that check which you say you paid me
payable to s. O., and when you made one
you say you gave Allison payable to W.
B. Allison? Al can't say, for some Of
the dividends did not put in any names.
Odd l give you any receipt Tor this
checkP A.-No, sir; it never belonged
TO me.
Q.-Have you ever told me during the
past four years that was owner Of this
stock ? A.-Idon't know whether l did or
not. Idon't understand your version Of the
affair at all. gave you the check, and
here is proof Of it by the books. What
is the use OF trying to get around 1t or
over it?
Mr.. Colrax-Where was 1 when you
gave me the cheCk-in the chair or on
the floor?
Mr.. Ames-Oh, I don't know; can't re-
member that
MIR. Colfax, to the committed repeat
exactly as I stated before, I never receiv.
ed dollar on any account from the Credit
Mobilier. never saw this check; don't
know whether 1t was signed by o. Ames
or Oakes Ames. Why he made this
check payable to 8. G. ! cannot
imagine. I could not have added to
my income $1,000 without remember
ing something about 1t. During the
whole OF these four years he has never
to pay me anything and never
told me was owner ofstock. ! told Mr..
Ames I would not buy into lawsuit,
and that ended the matter between us.
Ames-The check Tor $5S274 COM
pleted your payment for stock.
Judge Poland to Colfax-Do you ad-
nit that you gave him q check for
$3.50 "a.
Collax-I suppose so. I Thought at the
time was paying him $500 for my pur.
chase and interest, but did not underS
stand that this completed the transaction.
understood that the dividends had been
earned and were unadjuSted, and would
90 to make up the balance due from me;
but didn't understand that they completed
the purchase. He did not remember Of
Ames saying anything about selling the
bonds when the $500 was paid by witness;
He had an impression that the proceeds
from these bonds when sold would go to
complete the purchase. He supposed he
did pay AmeS the $500 by a check drawn
on the Sergeant.at.arms, but was conf.
dent that he never received any check
for $1,000 from Ames, either payable to
s. G. or Schuyler Colfax, or any amount
whatever. Ho supposed that the check
marked 8. @. was some memorandum OF
Ames by which he settled the matter af-
ter he (Uolfsx) told him he would have
nothing to do with the stock and would
not buy himself into lawsuit.
He had never received q certificate ol
stock, and no proceeds from it. he had
endeavored since he had been Speaker ot
the House and Vice President Of the
United States, to make his salary and
private income pay his bills, and had been
In the habit oil making every month or
two o statement Of his financial condi-
tions, but had never preserved these state
ments. II the committee would examine
the checks In the First National Bank
where he kept his account, they would
sec that he always wrote his name on the
back Of the checks without being asked
payable to order or bearer. The
about this matter was that
Anes stated this check was payable to
8. e., and others received checks payable
in their names.
YOU statement OF the sale OF bonds re
ceiyed as dividends, and you gave that
S532 check for the balance due!
ColIax-No, sir. There might have
been q slip Of paper, a memorandum, Of
$532 due; am not certain about that,
Ames-I asked you II l did not give q
statement showing credit derived from
the sale OF bondsp
Collax-I deny it.
AmRs-I am gOFFY TO hear VOu,