The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-04-02

seen the vouchers; have known OF payments 10
notorious TACT in the Erie oce that the money OF
these vouchers was paid for these purposes; 70 my
.es s ssy s GHs scu ss
e IoSe1 1862 Sc es was for ssssI
OF $4,000 each; the first note payable
IN ten days, the second in twenty, the third IN
o and rs 0 psS % s William me
was about the time OF the Fenian raid the next
after nat was S isaeS 70 scS saS
"Expenses nom New York TO Rochester and re-
tarn Qaughter)-in the next year the same
pose; this sum o. money would pay the passage
or about fifteen hundred persons; the vouchers
Wsuid lead to the belief that TwseG had as
ne wanted 9; the last voucher was 81
showed we'd sums amounting to $4,000 for .extra
and thus am aware OF the payments; from 1858 to
l l about one million dollars were PAID Tweed
OF these transactions and also the trial balances Of
the books II can have time to search for them.
duce the proofs which he had preserved the com.
mlttee at this point took recess, and directed
him to appear for further examination ct Jour
Afternoon Session.
The committee resumed at four O'Clock and pro-
ceeded to examine Simon Stephens, who testified
had some connection with the change In Erie
road management in March, 1872; on the 18th Of
OF Mr.. Gould's position and was asked whether 1t
was legal by General Sickles said II the company
would guarantee to MT. Gould immunity ior rt, ms
as counsel to Mr.. sickles; saw Mr.. Gould and
presented him with the proposition. ask ask,
certain conditions; he did resign, and ! received
1850 for my services; heard next day that
4 sG m
he told me that he had received vouchers for
s0O0 General Sckles said that the result OF the
tiai election; don't Know whether he expected to
receive assistance rom the government or not;
posely to attend to Erie or not. he
had new wife, and he wa wanted I. to
os Ms esxe Of
no connection with Erie he met Mr.. Bischoffsheim
in London, and the matter was arranged relative
TO become United States Senator, and he thought
his action in regard to Erie would hasten the time;
ton or not; don't know what services Mr.. W. Il.
Chandler performed in connection with his name
appearing upon one OF the vouchers; Sickles sald
donei'' said ''You ought to charge 250, 1000 and
he said, II think SO, too; when was in London
large sum would be expended to produce
a change; they had heard fabulous accounts
their friends in; il the assistance rendered by
Bischonshem to the company was Of purely
speculative nature, don't think Erie would DO
entitled to rec0mpense them
To Mr.. Beach, told mr. Gould when made the
proposition Of Tesignng to him that the release
offered to him was not intended to cover any fradu-
lent transaction.
Henry P. Antics was recalled, and produced an
account Of sums paid BY the Erie Company for legal
services during the year 1S6970; he also produced
vouchers for the month preceding the change
have seen copy of the general legal disDurse-
ments OF the road mn to the time of the date Of the
vouchers; 1 heard that the $4,000 worth OF coal
once distributed by Mr.. Gould among the poor OF
the city was paid for out OF the Erie treasury and
charged to legal expenses.
President watson was re-examfned and ex-
planned an error into which he had lanen during
his previous examination, by stating that certain
vouchers were signed by man named Fenissy,
when such was not the case.
illegal EXPENSES"
The following statement OF the extraordinary le-
gal expenses OF the Erie Railroad outside the sums
which were paid to regular counsel VIII be read
with interest. It was found In an old book In the
Erie Railroad ONCE. AS win be seen, Legal ex-
penses made to stand for all sorts OF disburse-