New-York tribune., 1873-12-12

the increased pay received by members OF the xLild
judgment on tnat saoec,' WA Was that what what the he
satisfy the popular demands II was not what
the public gigmont had demanded n and ,Sn st,
they should be utterly wiped out so that no benefit or
advantage which anybody had derived from II should be
kept and retained by him. That and that alone, would
satisfy the Ipuhlc demand II with that view and
for that purpose that he had offered his substitute He
proposcdto vote for bill that should out the
decision of the people that subject. and utterly wipe
ont all the effects. and consequences and benefits
derived by members OF Congress under tho act OF March
3. 1s73
public Office IN his own state where salaries were very
small and the habits Of simplicity and plain economy
preserve Washington. that 5000 year ample
compensation for his services, and furnished hn with
live besides he had thought that II very unior
tunae time TO make the increase The public mind had
been for some time excited in regard TO the cor cor;
had been that subject and he thought he knew
tive feature of the law. would excite public condemna
uon and call down popular censure on Congress- Alter
with the back pay The press had begun to say that
every one who took Il was robber and a thief.
thief for taking the compensation affixed to
his Office was not very paataole to hlm, h1;
conscience neither did he propose TO be actuated or IN
uenced by threat OF that sort ndthereore he had
mems couscienees had been than his They
Dss to be Affected ns o sad the one sna asI Ts
result of that was that people began that these
merely for the purpose Of curryinc public favor.
That had brought him TO commune with ms own 1ndg-
Whether he was On the one side to called thief and
robbe whether he should subject himself TO be called
acoward and hypocrite, The result OF his seltcom-
munng was that ho should altogether amenable
latter charge he returned the pay and that he
self to being charged iy the public press Gs
Sesr % 6 and 5 neT S ne to make
endeavor have the law regulate the thing SO that
might be Ss I Tetgr o the n9 peop Without snS
jecting himself to the charge or being hypoTte anu
| coward. He claimed that although they could not go
back to regulate the salaries of members of he XLlId
Congress- they had full power over the salaries OF me
| Mr STEPHENS Dem Ga) was the next speaker
He got on with difficulty, aud not without
under his left arm. He spoke with clear. ringing
voice which was distinctly audible every portion OF
did very frequently at the close Of sentences His
ner was and his remarks very dgressye many
listened with the closest interest and attention
Commenced by saying that he would examine the ques
before the House first IN its moral and then III s
lie press subject He would say nothing in dero
gaton Of the usefulness or the press The o
sition of journalists in this country was one of the
highest The fourth estate did in tins control public
sentiment but he would in all earnesIness say to the press
and its conductors that nothing was more Important
that In treating of subjects with the masses OF tho
people they should look wei to the truth and correct
ness and principle OF what they address 10 the people.
The press had denounced thieves and robbers the
members of the last Congress- and he had seen one
much like the charge of the Hundred Balaklavs.
He had thought the wi. of that representation more ap
The gentleman from New-York Gfr. Tremain) had
spoken yesterday OF demagOgism. He (Mr. stephens
maintained that there could statesmansnip with
out it, There had been statesman who was NOT
the people. Pericles q deDagogue. There were
two kinds Of demagogues-the sham and the genuine
led the people, who guided the people;
The sham demaGOgue ,panders to the errors and
nffh rell ala
the ply ysician OF humanity. The sham demagogue sim
ply coured avors in order to get oce and the spos S
! genuine demagogue aud related an anecdots 10 the
eneGI tHa waen o was sS the xSg
of windows he missed one member OF the CABINET ana
no difference whether that member present not;
because he fool That is the very ressoD said
Chatham, that want him here because the way ne
the people of Eagland may think about IT,
| and / want TO know the sentiment Of the public"
lie wanted TO it, to pander 10 it, but that he
might 20 before the people and raise them to sentiment
Of the necessity ana proprlety OF the measure. s,
Recurring TO the consideration OF the increased salary
bih Mr.. stephens said that he was very gad 10 say
that that was measure Tor whIch heitner PoHiNa'
party was responsible His opinion was that the De
mocracy IN the proportion of their votes III Congress-
we're quite as responsible the Republicans. The
tlcman NewYork (iir Tremain had admitted yes,
me tne ight & 10 hn A ms D Of n t0Vernment IL had
frequently Increased that compensation, aud the in
crease always and necessarily retroactive worthy
men had done this IN last century and IN the early
part of the present The brightest ornaments
| IN American history had subjected themselves
| 10 be denounced las salary -gIabDerS ana thieves
! The first great thing t. be learned IN THIS
/ life. taught in the schools OF ancient GREECE
multitude Thought was right tha: which right
in ITSELF II there was anything wrong, anything I'M
moral, anything dishonest ANYTHING when would re-
fleet disgrace mans memory for making that legal
appropriation, he wanted to know where IT was II II
wrong for members 10 take wDat tl9 Jaw ailo"9u
where 10 find rule OF right and wrong HIS
remarks tins subject did not Apply 90 himself but he
/ Was cItlZen the country, and nc felt
deep the dignity and character OF Congress
He claimed that when Congress passed the retroactive
law Oi last session IL Bid cOhsluOha! sh 10 40 So
He saying whether AZ was cXpedlent OF not Du
blush should rest Oh the cheek OF any man whether
he voted not should have felt that he was
% Justly entitled to tas nc was 10 receive dollar day.
1t constitutional law, consutuu0laiy passed ana
those who entitled TO pay under 1t were az much
entitled to the whole Of II they were to any dine
received under IT, any thought II was 700 mncn ana
returned 1t he (Nr otephens would not cast SUR upon
He had discussed the moral view Of the question, and
he would proceed to discuss IL as To Its political
aspect lie was not going to place "A value ms
services As a Representative but if he
Thought the services Of Representative ought
to be WORTH it would go above the figure OF law
that has ever been passed. Representative OF the
people ought be of that mental caliber, that
! niormatiOn that education, that virtue, that
trust ustworbiuess. aud all those qualities winch
command tine highest remuneration. he had gwen II
hIs opinion IN the last speech he made h me House.
IA years ago. the salaries OF members OF Congress
$1,000, of Senators $4,000 OF the ChieIJnstlce OF
the supreme Court $4,000 OF the Associate Judges s25
OOO and OF the President 100000 woudbe better 1or
country at large. He he'd the snno opinion stiil
He certainly should not vote for The b reported by the
Committee but he believed that the most uuwee action
or the last Congress WAS VI the
! privilege.
| Mr.. GARFIELD rep. Ohio replied to Mr.. stephens
There things, he SAID IN the speech just de-
vered radically unlike the views entertained by the
American people that they should be replied TO at once
particularly to public positions being held out as
prizes for the emoluments attached to them. All that
the dsn guished gentlemen had said III regard TO the
! distinction between the genuine demagogue and the
sham demagOgue would De cordially concurred IN by all
| who heard nm. Public opinion IN some OF Its forms
might sometimes be wrong, but aier all there MAS
place where public opinion fualy adjusted itself
| and fnally gave tho stamp TO what MANKIND
A
| world where the highest power was the best paid
| power, the gentemans argument would have been
/ IIta nn nI TINT