The sun., 1873-01-31
THE MOBILIER BUSINESS.
AN INQUIRY INTO THE DUBUQUE
AND SIOUx CITY ROAD.

| WASuINGTCN, Jan. 30.-Judge Polands
special committee resumed lie session this
morning, and the Hon. John Beatty OF Ohio
| was sworn and examined by the Hon. job Ste
vcnson OF the same State, who introduced the
resolution directing the inquiry into the Du-
| buauc and sioux City Raroad. Mr.. Beatty
testined than he had n conversation with Mr..
| Stevenson on the day before that gentleman in
| trOduCed the resolution In the House. Mr..
Stevenson then said he had received certain in
formation from Mr. Ames.
Q.-what did he sny Mr.. Amcs said9 Ale said wr
6gage aud Sioux c sPSaay road kir ssaca Il sp pas
SussOn snd si sai Mr. n was sS" on ,%s
guSES rS9paryoa heard copye.Gon between
Judge McrrickHMt Ames did not alludc to any pre-.
yioas conversation he had with Mr.. stevcnsonS *
WHAT AmEs TOLD STEVENSON.
Mr.. Stevenson then stated that upon consider
| alton he remembered that unon the same day,
and after he had introduced the resolution Mr..
| Ames did talk To him more fully and freely than
before. Previous to introducing the resolution
| They occupied seais at the same table at the
Arlington Hotel, and had formed very pleasant
| acquaintance. When this investigation began,
| Mr.. Ames said In a humorous way he had better
leave. Witness replied lie had not been found
and and Mr. Ames had frequent } tent cSnversations at the
| hotel and on the way TO the Capitol, during
which he had gathered the INFORMATION up9n,
| which his resolution was based. Witness would
| have included the Sioux City and Pacific Road
| in hie resolution, but he had Understood that
zance Of that road. Mr.. Ames told witness one
day that he would give him a book showing the
not to use IL against his (Ames's) friends. Wit
ness inquired VINO his friends were and he re-
| said he could not promise that, and upon OBJ
| tanning copy of the book subsequently from
Judge wilson's committco, Mr.. Anes gave him
| a copy also. Mr. Ames GENERALLY stated at break
| fast what Il was proposed to give the committee
that day.
Il
inlucton pot on Mr. Amess tongue to stop lt Laugh.
JOHN n. ALLEYS TESTIMONY.
John II. Alley was then questioned by Mr..
| Stevenson, and testified that Congress had moth
ing To do with the Sioux city and Iowa Falls
the state gave 1t 10 the road. Tho road was
had seen by some of the Massachusetts papers
that there was m'sarprehenslon IN regard TO
| was discrepancy between the testimony of
| himself and Mr.. Ames before this committee
! lie desired To- say that there were no djsrrcnan
| cics as TO the number OF dividends declared on
Credl, Mobilier stock, but the papers had got
| mixed up. The dividends made by the trustees
| do with Credit Mobilier.
S ssa ven We s sfys the y9Cls h;Sry Of
form opinion about the matter vas done N''
DOESN'T KNOW TO WHOM AMEs PROMISED STOCK
assigned TO Mr.. Anne. We claimed that hc wanted
hrm 70 Innl !; se had male with
res"fd q negotiation. Mr. Smss had WITH tRese gentle
.SS@ oy q except S%iS NTH e
from %5as ses from M Hm al the ms
the meeting Of the Executive Committee In New York
pfi0s e Ss fs Hs p Gs
positive. don ihIns he meniioned he HSmes Of The
psIlc. With whon he had ihese agrcenents Had heard
some talk about wilson, Dawes. and Boutwell, talking
Judge POLAND What I want to get at is your tnowl.
| edge IN reference neQOtIatlOna Mr. Amef had
with any OF these gentlemen prior to 1851 Al haven't
Mr. S%e: ]
The han he eoud ss qnere va. qae an 0ps oepo l
,%p n,n 10 ',,a hun having The stock. especially was
hefs, and he ssid there vas no reason Why Mr. Ames
one % else lie Mr. aecc@S e Spi had aso S made made
sD:eS Ss :s 'SSs; g',P $
ana thinE he ssla Mr. HIhsoS b, am not M sure Wc
denied hi. right 20 IT, but he urged so lard and strong
| BY Mr. Stevenson. witness va. interested in the
Rapids road, Int In OF them until after he left
| JAMES y. wIIso>s TESTIMONY.
| James =. Wilson was recalled and examined
| by Mr.. Stevenson:
OF spy members OF Congress Ssias lnerestsd IN the
road from Dabnape g sioaI Gnyi and especially that
feSoIl'slloo @ viii bear bear me ont .e9. " oskes Ames Mr.
Q Have You any knowledge OF Mr. Hooper being In
Q Any kno Wedge Of Mr. Bi,inep A.-No. sir.
Speaker Blaine here entered the room and
| MIR Chairman, understand thst Gen Realty and Mr.
Stevenson have been In here testfng in regard to
| this morning They gave me no notice whatever.
him taox Su, he was not in '''"' W '''
| Mr.. Wilson resumed his testimony and testi-
fed that Inc was Interested In the Iowa Falls and
| sioux City road.
,onTo, what e5tent2 Al win .tate the faets After
grant SbsS had been eonreTrsd upon PST'Se tSe
S"SpS 9, ~sh sSG sSS1 SoSa f rpsa vas S,gan
Ias s ,Gss 10 nSt SSa't % ne qssSS
pa1y. Mr. mar asked ne q would hEstG have stoek
"t him Know % frend Mr. coSsnsS S "sreeS @Sa q TSa a
wa" s sS ne Of Sd xs o Torh 10 H. OF me
Of Mr Col6angh Ny share Of the prohs up to this time
KNEW or no OTHER CoSGREssMEN INTERESTED.
| ny Mr.. stevenson--Haye you sny knowledge of any
Other other member of Congress being n'erested2
Mr.. McCrary objected TO any inquiry as to per-
| sons who were members OF Congress then but
| not now. lie thought the resolution under
| which the committee was acting and the rule
Of the House forbid the committee making any
MIR. stevenson said his object was to inquire Ms
20 the general fruits OF members Of Congress
| holding stock.
Mr.. wison-Do you propose to go into the whole heid
Mr. seScnson i have not the strength to do that.
Jndgs Poland Saft.r conferring Win The other mem;
juds Smpy his arsdcon 20 We S Gspossa 81 s1o
take that 10 ourselves and will allow the question.
Of any gentlemen except those have mentioned.
| QUESTION OF PUBLIC POLICY.
Witness then said, since the question OF pub
lie policy had been raised he desired to say that
when these companies were being organized
and the land grants were made, man could not
have been elected to Congress from Iowa who
was not In favor Of them so that II the ques-
tiOn was to be raised, they had better fall back
on the people. The prOmptings for him to favor
these were not that he should make anything,
but the fact that all his people were In favor OF
them. The State of Iowa now, with the million
and a half OF people that 1t has to-day, would,
without these improyements, probably not have
more than half million. They were anxious To
get such men as John j. Blair, Oakes Ames, and
other Eastern men take hold Of the matter. lie
acted as he believed in accordance with ths true
public policy Of the time and II he had II to do
over again would do precisely what he did.
Mr.. Stevenson said he would ask that John J.
| Blair he summoned.
Mr., Wilson inquired OF Mr., Stevenson Rs 10 his
source OF Information to the effect that he was
Interested In these roads.
Mr.. Stevenson could not remember whether II
was from Mr. Ames, Mr.. Alley, OF Mr.. Allison
that he received the information
Adjourned until 10 A. VI. tomorrow, when
Mr.. McComb and c. II. Nelson will be recalled.
Interesting Testimony Before the Wilson
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