The Portland daily press., 1873-01-23
WASHINGTON.
Credit MObilier.
An Animated Session.
Question of Veracity Between
MeSSrS. COlEax and Annes.


WASHINGTON, Jan. 22.-Polands Credit Mo
bilier Committee resumed the examination of
Cakes Ames this morning.
In answer to questions of Jadge Poland, he
testified that he agreed to give Mr.. Colfax twen-
ty shares of Credit Mobiler stock but he did
not remember when the agreement was made
1t was early in the session beginning December,
1867. Witness got the stock for him and re-
ceived the dividend upon it of so per cent in
Union Pacific bonds. He accounted to Mr..
Colfax for the bonds which were sold by wit
ness. Mr.. Colfax gave witness a check for 1854
70. The check was dated March 9th, 1868. The
check was upon the sergeant-at-arms; did not
remember OF delivering the stock to Mr.. Col
fax. The check and the proceeds of the Uuion
Pacific stock paid for the Credit Mobilier stock
In June following gave Colfax check for $1,000,
dividends on Credit Mobilier stock. Hrard the
statement of Colfax before the committee.
Question--What do you say about what Mr.
Colfax said in regard to his making you pres
ent of $500?
Answer-He said some such thing about be-
ing sorry for my misfortunes; cannot remem-
Der his words now. Mr.. Colfax had never call
ed upon witness for the Credit Mobilier stock;
has it ready to deliver to him whenever he
wants it; supposed that Mr. Colfax understood
the $1,000 was a dividend upon the Credit Mo-
biler stock.
Question-Has he ever repaid you that 81
200?
Answer-Not to my knowledge; it don't be-
long to me.
Mr.. Colfax, who was present. said he reas-
serted what he said before, and in regard to the
81 200 he now gave notice to Mr. Ames that he
would prove negative. Mr.. Cofax then ques-
toned Mr.. Ames as follows:
Question-Did offer to paw YOU the S3472
or did you come to me and ask me to pay you?
Answer-That can't tell.
Questionable you tell me some dividends
had been earned but were unadjusted?
Answer told you a dividend of so per
paDt in fhn T1piOD Pacific stool had haap n
clared.
Question-Did ask you to buy the bond?
Answer-I didn't buy the bonds; they were
dividends, and | sold them, accounting for the
proceeds to you.
Questionable you sell the stock?
Answer-I have not sold it.
Witness regarded him now as the proprietor
Of the Credit Mobilier stock. Did not remenl-
Der what Mr. Colfax said at the next session
about the transaction being off All that he
remembers about it was what Mr. Colfax said
in his testimony. Did not remember of saying
after he heard the testimony of Mr. Colfax on
January 18th, that what he said was correct.
Mr.. Colfax-Well, Mr.. Crounse so informed
me, that you told him, and so telegraphed to
the New York Times.
Witness did not remember where Mr. Colfax
was when he gave him the check of 500.
Mr.. Colfax-Mr Durant says there was also
bond dividend. Now what did you do with
the bonds belonging to me?
ficates and hold them with your stock for
you. You are entitled to them.
Question-Haye you ever offered them to me?
Answer-No, sir; am awaiting the result of
this suit. The check for $1,000 was payable to
Schuyler Colfax. 1t is in possession of the SER
geant-at-arms as a voucher to my account. The
check was given long time before tue CONVEX
sation about the matter being off. That check,
my dear sir, was in June, and the conversation
between US about the matter being off was not
till the next session. Never gave Mr.. Colfax
any bonds. or stock in Union Pacific.
Mr.. Colfax-Now, if the committee will al
low, assert under oath that don't remember
of having received single dollar from Mr..
Ames.
Mr. Ames again repeated his statement that
he had no recollection of the conversation with
Mr.. Crounse.
Mr.. Colfax requested that the sergeant at
arms be summoned to produce the books and
papers referred to.
With regard to Senator Wilson, Mr.. Ames
testified that the statement of the former the
other day was in all respects correct. Ames
was then asked about William b. Allison of
Iowa, and said his testimony formerly given
was substantially correct. Mr.. Ames said that
in 1868 he made nominal purchase of the
stock from Mr.. Allison, paying him a very
small sum. Mr.. Allison did not return the GER
tificates. however until March 1872 Allison