New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-01-10
INDIAN APPROPRIATIONS.
SPIRITED DEBATE ON TIE COST OF c1vILzING
TIE INDIANS.

TIE INDIANS.
fBY TELEGRAPH TO THE TRlBUEEl
WASHINGTON, Jan. 9.-One of the annual
discussions on Indian peace policy took place In the
Senate to-day Mr.. Window, in reply to some assertion
that was made day ago, attempted to deIend
this policy on the Of economy and compared the
expenses Of fighting Indians in Ices and 1866 win tne
cost OF that portion Of the army now engaged IN
the same way Admitting that the appropriations mace
In the Indian bill had increased during the past two OF
three years. he claimed that three OF lour tunes ths III
crease mad been saved in the expenses oil the army
This brought Mr. Thurman his feet and he had eVi
IDENTIFY prepared himself for speech ON THIS very point
He asserted that the comparison made by MI WINDOW
was an unfair one, he had taken period Whe lhe
OF the War Department in lighting Indians
was wholly beyond parallel To illustrate this he said
that one expedition that sent out after the Indians
cost SC 100000 The officer in command III nus oihcla re-
port said that he had killed one INDIAN
Tae express agents denied the truth OF TINS report ana
claimed 10 have killed the Indian themselves while the
traders said that both led for the Indian was stu ave'
TO show that it not true that the increase IN tne
indian expeuses and the In expenses OF the
War Department have been IN the same ratio he read
from the official reports the fOowng Indian expenses
1884, S3e4s lsOOthe Indian appropriations must nave
been included IN some other item as ho
special appropriation appears; ls2@ s5lo'oO; lSo'
.622262; Is4O s227i,s57; this includes large sum
yond the Mississippi River 1880 $63OO; 1861 s2si''
OoO 1870 s. 4O7 900 1872 nearly OoOOOo 1873 SbOooo
Expenses of the War Department. 1870 S2siOOo; 1880
@75oOcO; 1910; s7155OOO; 1850 s9OS'oO; lS'- about
sas ooo 900 The Indian Commission reports that there
are now including In Alaska 3OOVO Indians IN le
Tnavino ont those in Alaska the Cherokees ana other
thes In The Indian territory who have civil government
~ tbeir own there are about 100000 Indians who nave
20 ha cared for and this bid gives them s9 30 mead
Mr. Thurman could the good polcy OF pfovdlng
80 literally these Indians. NO natoh hat ever Neu
Rod ever provided so bountifnly or treated with so
much consideration barbarous nation wlthn ~ poI
ders "a e have the Indians and what Is the result "
w. NE have zoo OF them under the influences OF civ
uiIation and among Christian people, we appropriate
90 600 70 remoye them because they are thieves and Yag
sbonds Nobody he continued, can understand an IN
dian hin n Won ask the Chairman OF the Committee
about IT, he will put on bis spectacles and read YOU RON
the statutes treaty so years old 20 pay Chle k0lhg
offa.opD and his band annuity, ana 10 Establish
black sInith-shop az Chicago. u. =. .-., .,
Mr. COnklipg asked Mr.. Thurman wnat ne proposed 10
do abont IT, Mr. Thurman replied tha III the nsI plaoe'
he would not increase the expenses from year 10 year
and then he would tnat no money was piId 10 Wie
men who got themselves adopted into the tribes JUST 10
get annuities. 80. ,... "a A. caoa.o
The debate continued till afternoon. aud the senate
adionrned without passing the BILL One Tact that seems
IN he forgotten by those who complain OF the cost OF
taxing care of Indians is that every year flrOaus
and Settlements are encroachng upon Indians VINO were
mot before provided for Sun there Is no doubt hit thefe
s more money stolen out Of Indian appropriations every
year than out Of any other OF Ike slZe'