New-York tribune., 1873-12-10

the exncndtures of The Government were beyond the
revenues Tue of the last month had fallen on
so as 10 make deficit for the month past already OF
Mr. Kelley made the point of order that Mr.. Gar
fields proposition not gcrmane 10 the SUBSTITUTE,
and the Speaker so ruled. .,..., a.. rim ~
The substitute itself was rejected, and the Dill az
amended was passed
DEBATE ON THE SALARY QUESTION
The House then, at II o'clock proceeded to the discus
sion OF bill the repeal OF the increase OF salary la
Mr. cox Dem. N. W spoke IN favor of the repeal,
but expressed his preference for the bill as presented by
the minority OF the Committee la the course Of his
remarks he said: Some sinister nferences are sought
to be drawn from the allegation that returned this
money on the 9Oh of April, the dav predece ssor
died Even If this true, the inference is false, as
until my fathers death. and at mothers request,
had an intention Of going abroad for a long voyage.
after Mr. Brooks's death; but the letter send
ing this money back is in The Herald.
ordered it to be returned the week before so that some
fortnight before Mr. Brooks's death my intention was
ne knew the fact OF intent to have been the same as
his. On the death OF my UNCLE aud subsequently OF my
mission could only remember duty TO the dead.
All such inferences are from ignorant or conceited
motives. When opposed the bill, in February, as The
GLOBE shows made an ironicaI remark, received as
sucn that when gratied country voted me the money
would take IT, aud this too Is tortured TO mean some
thing did not and that, too, by men vino expect TO
keep the money forever They not the men 10 make
me uncomfortable. wnen they pay back
| even late, they may talk to me because
| saw into milestone, and they are
funding and yet they brave souls, march up now and
vote for repeal OF course they are not demagogues
may be demagogue in doing right; but they did not
do the until prodded to do IT by the and the
people. If aln demagogue. do not fawn for thrift
! nor take it and then crook the knee.
| Mr.. LAWRENCE Qiep. Ohlo) made speech in favor
of the peal. because IL demanded by the people,
whose agents the members of Congress were. II Con-
gress failed 70 wipe out the law the omission wonn oe
visited with the continuous defeat OF the RrpubIlcan
party and that would be calamity 10 which he Law-
Mr. WILSON (Rep, Ind.) asked him whether he
| uawrencel did not take 5000 back-pay III 1866.
| Mr. LAWRENCE amid loud laughter all over the
House) replied that he did take what other mem
Der of that Congress took. He added that the salary
fixed by the act OF 1866 had not outraged the pubic
judgment and the public conscience the act of 1873
had done and that that fact furnished perhaps, some
Mr. WILSON tried to ce, opportunity to put some
further questions Mr. Lawrence but the latter amid
much confusion aud laughter refused 10 yled or the
Nj KENDALL Dem. New opposed the repes.
While he had the utmost respect for the will of tue peo
pie when fairly expressed he made clear distinction
between popular will and popular clamor He claimed
TO be able 10 show that the salary as II now stood was
less than the old especially In the ease Of the members
from the Far West he undertook do so, 10y show
ing that they lost ny the abrogaton OF mileage the re-
peal Of the franking privilege, and the withdrawal OF
allowances for stationery and new spapers. lie not
here attempt 10 defy the popular WILL but he repeated
that he drew wide distinction between the popular
will fairly expressed, and popular ciamOr. led by dem
agogues and by a corrupt and partisan press.
auson to what he called the extreme sensyeness OF
the gentleman from New York (Mr CoX) He (Nr Neg
ley) had in the public papers That that gentleman
had drawn his back and had gwen TO his iather
aud mother. because they were orphans ana hal Whe
james Brooks would soon pass over the portals OF time
Treasury He had not kept it all summer but he bad
kept from the 10th of March to the 3Oth of April he
Nr. Negey) did not question the gentlemans motives,
or mis- right. He bad simply referred TO the facts.
| Mr. COX-Does the gentleman arragn my statement?
have stated that returned the money to the Treasury
| Mr. NEGLEY-I have not stated otherwise. would
hav
for my own selfrespect and for his feelings but the
gentleman appears on this moor Immediately on the
group OF gentlemen anxious and Jealous In airagD-
se5 the SSSe Teasmy SI Sn pn men and
refer to the gentemans own acts in order to
him the pc PoSn NS% n m %ce senemn he ' P&e areM
although he not elected as member till the 5th OF
Mr.. COX-Is the gentleman aware of the law on that
Mr.. NEGLEY-I am aware Of the law, and so is the
Mr.. Cox-The law express IN regard to it. Is the
Mr. SEahE9i Eyre P am 1ns aware laT' of it,
| Mr. NEGLEYZIf the gentleman will permit me will
be ndulgent TO him than he has been to me. The
gentleman has only served nine DAYS in this Congress,
and yet has drawn over $1,000 If that drawing
back pay appeal TO the common sense OF the House
Mr. COX-Has the gentleman served any longer in
tins Congress than have was sworn III on the same
| Mr. NEGLEY-But I am not showing such disgust
| ing amount OF virtue az the gentleman and conse-
| quently am not here making my defense. The
introduction OF tins b and the indecent haste OF the
gentleman to bring 1t before the country while our n.
dustrie- depressed, and while the condition of
j the finances demands Immediate legislation |
matter. / simply alluded 10 the statement in
| the newspapers not with any intention of arragn-
| ing the gentleman Mr. Cox before the House
question which he had perfect righ accord
ing TO his best judgment, but the gentleman appears
here as the iudgeadvOcate OF the people arraigns
his associates for committing great crime, IN his
own language for stealing money from the Treasury.
When lie makes that statement, desire the House
|
has played in stealing money from the Treasury, If he
styles it, II this measure had been introduced in the
interest OF economy 1t would have commanded my vote
aud my support. If had been introduced
the most right 10 introduce i'll those who had
favored the Increase should have been willing to
give 1t support but, on the contrary, II has been
| introduced by number of gentlemen who have just
escaped from the ioies or their youth, and who come
here for the purpose OF earning some new reputation
Mr. WILSON Rep. Ind.> said it was not his purpose
TO argue AGAINST the repeal OF tue salary Dl, nor to
argue that the salary not fixed too high but he de-
sired TO snow that there was nothing in that action
worthy or dishonest that man might vote Tor 1t and
still be the peer in integrity and conscience of all the
| past procedents the subject, naming many of
the popular and distinguished who voted for like
measures ana received the benefits OF them and he
peated TO Mr.. Lawrence Qiep. Ohio) the question
whether he had not drawn the back voted by Con
| Mr.. LAWRENCE replied that every member of that
Congress except the memOers IRON West Virginia. had
taken the pay fixed by the act OF 1866. He condemned
the Salary act OF March g. 1885, not much because OF
the back because both the back and the front
Mr.. DAWES Nep., Mass.)-I want the gentleman from
OHIO MIR LlWTence) to tell how much back pay he
would for Loud aughterl He says that in 1866
took hts back because member OF Congres did
He returns the increase OF because he the
people condemn IL. SO he sgoes. with the multitude
| whatever way the multitude goes Loud laughter at
| the expense OF Mr. Ltwrence.l
Mr.. WILSON continued his argument, and claimed 10
have proved that the last Congress in the passage of the
Salary bill had follow wed in the footsteps of their
ustrious predecessors. The merit demerIt OF the
did not depend on whether IL done the first
last day of Congress. Men might differ tie
proper salary without being either robbers thieves
The people however had right to demand that the
the last Congress should be repealed The people
had made that demand, and Congress bound To