New-York tribune., 1873-02-15
THE CREDIT MOBILIER.


saw him 10 person. he said they had ned any ~
thht stock fOr any Thus was lead into false ms
preston OF the facts OF THIS mover spoke with
Pnounder sense Of truth OF what SAID than when be-
Tore the Committee Of the House. and II In error
protest lhe credit belongs 70 others ana not to me.
nave hhue this statement with the frankness which
shoud Characterize such communications. II have
mgungel 10 surprising that my ownership OF stock M
ethf o the companies compatible with the exercise OF
my legislative obligations and duties shall your
deIeImnation though must hold own opinion 70 the
The Committee took a until O'Clock.
SENATOR HARLAN RECALLED
The Committee reassembled at 2:5O O'Clock and Sen
ator Harlan recalled In answer 10 questions OF
senator Stevenson he said he mad not found the dates Of
the sohecks received from Dr. Durant had
copies OF the checks the stubs since they given
away had conversation DR.. Durant in relation
10 the checks. and asked him II any checks had been
drawn by him or paid out funds OF Union Pa
efc Railroad Company aid the election Of wtress in
Iowa; he replied In the negative. :
Mr. Sieyenson-I have been notified that the stubs Of
the checks shown 70 committee IN the Cap
itol Before proceeding TO introduce that witness
would prefer that you examine your papers, you say
you retain press copies, in order that refresh
your memory The witness replied that ne would ex-
anime his papers, and he could probably hx the date
he had no recollection OF having shOwa stubs
copies OF the checks in the Capitol Witness wanted to
know II there any witnesses against him II 50, he
had right 10 hear their testimony before replying
Senator Stevenson said he had been informed by a
gentleman that the fact could be proved that stubs
copies OF the checks shown to Mr. Harlan in com
mtteeroom in the Capitol He Senator Stevensonj did
not say It 30. had been told and desired TO
ask MT Harlan about II.
MT stockton SAID lac had been informed that the |
$1,000 was not used FOR election purposes ana he there
fore desired 70 ask Mr. Harlan received the money
himself and II So what he did With Ho had been in
formed that the money was given to Mr. Harlan for |
another purpose and for election purposes He did
not say It was true and therefore asked the question.
Mr Harlan raised the question 10 the authority OF
the Committee go into all these subjects It for
the Committee to investigate the charge OF Credit No
bier corruption and not all these outside questions.
Senator sievensOH-T have charges published in
leading Republican paper-The Cincinnati Gazette
charging that this money given TO influence the
action Of senator Harlan while Secretary OF the
Interior
Senator Stockton said Dr. Durant had stated that this
money given aid in the election OF Mr. Harlan,
lac could shape the election The witness raises the
point that he Will tell the truth about It until he
hnds what We expect TO prove. Tho question he de-
sired 10 ask the is what disposition he made
o that money II Harlan desires prefers 70
postpone answering this question unit. another time
have no objection II rs not matter OF curiosity on
my part This thing has been made public in the news
papers ana feel il my duty member Of the Com
mittee TO ask the question.
Mr. Harlan said be understood the Senator from Ken
tucky r stevenson ~ sayithat he had additional IN
formation in regard 10 the checks and he thought he
lad rglt % that Information before being called upon
20 testify
MI Morrill, said members OF the Committee need not
give their for asking questions every
senator the Committee had right 10 ask any ques-
ons he desired without giving the witness.
WHO COT THE MONEY! FOR THE CHECKS.
Mr. Stockton asked the witness again If be cot the
money those two checksi A. 1 got the money for
one remember distinctly aud suppose got that for
the also, they we're both under my control. how
ever.
O. Who got the money! A. indorsed the check aud
gave 10 10 friend get the money whether he gave
money tome handed 20 some friend, don't re-
member.
O what is the name NJ the friend TO whom you handed
the check A. 10 not want 70 bring IN the names Of
others.
Mr. stockton repeated the question. A Well. viii
make inquiry OF the Chairman u Is necessary 'i"t
shall answer that question.
The Committee-room was cleared. and after confer
ence Of minutes among the members tue doors were
reopened. and Mr.. Morrill,. the Chairman announced
that the Committee Of the opinion that any ques
tion asked a 10 distribution Of the money received
was pertinent The question was then asked; WHAT
was the name OF TIE friend A. Carlton.
O. Do understand that you handed him the checzf
A. Yes, sr.
o. What was done with the money afterwarl' A It
was under my control but not distinct whether MI
Carlton handed the money TO me or a frond
O. DO you recOLect Ia what shape the money was A.
II 4 currency.
O. Yo have no recollection as what Mr. Carlton did
whit A. II was used 70 deiray the expenses OF the
election IN Iowa; have doubt II was applied as
funds are usually applied IN such cases
O. Toward your election SenatOri a. Well yes
toward the election OF the Legislature too.
To Mr sieveusOn-Witness did not remember Cartons
first name he was the Agent Secretary Of the Meth
odi,t Book Concern in NewYork City, and resided in
NewJersey did not know where he could be found now
O. Did you receive any other funds from any agent.
employ6 or officer OF any railroad company a. Not
that ] Of.
witness then explained that he was in New-Yors'
where he received the check from Duran aud asked
C.rton whore the hank Was; he asked me II I had any
bank business told him yes. had check he replied
we'll our bank clerk will attend 20 IT, aud gave II 70
him witness did not remember the name Of the bank
Carlton had nothing 10 do with the distribution OF the
money IN Iowa
.. Who had charge OF ITS distribution IN Iowaf A.
A number OF friends: 10 not remember them now
@ Can you give Us the names OF sonnet A. ! Will NY
IN make ont a list IL the Committee desires Il Wm
H. CorkhU was one Of the friends with hun when he GOT
the check and the money might have been handed 10
him: was not sure who il was handed no.
.. Did yOl bring that money 10 Washington Win you
from New York. or deposit in NewYorki A. AN not
certain whether brought here or gave II TO irlena
IN Now-York.
O Name any person either here or in New York TO
whom that 5000 was dstributedi A. Well leave u
TO the Chairman # 1 am 70 answer that
The Chairman told Mr. Harlan that he must answer
MI. Har,an-It will require reflection and per
hans some search for me TO ascertain the names OF al
the parties who used the fund one. remember was B.
:. Noble
Q. Who did Noble get ii 'front.' A don't remember
whether IL was from some one else.
In answer 20 questions Of Mr. Scott the witness test
fed that the money was used in paying the expenses of
friends in che senatorial election Tar as II depended
on witness IL was 50 used.