The New York herald., 1873-12-17

not more than few weeks DID, and already seven
clergymen have joined us boldly.
hEPoRTER-Is that the extent OF the encourage
Bishop CuMMINs-I have In my possession letters
from 20 or 70 cierpymen In all parts OF the country
But we are not prepared for them yet. What
could we DO with such number, when there are
churches we spal! eau upon them,
REPoRTER-I understand there ia q church in
Peoraf
in few days. with the Rev. A. G. Tyng as rector.
am going down there next week TO visit the con-
gregatlon. lou see otner churches will spring up
In the same way and We shall have pastors enough
to supply them.
REPoRTER-How do the lalty encourage your
Bishop CUMMINs-You would be surprised at the
manner In which they answer us. They nock to
our standard boldly and in numbers
Sa @
Bishop CUMMINs-I have been told by several dis
tinguished ministers OF the Methodist and Presby
terlan churches that they will join us. Even Bap
tist minister told me he would come in with us.
REpoRrER-How win you receive the clergy Of
Bishop CUMMINs-On equal terms. We shall
recognize their ordination as ministers and wei.
come them as such. We shall tell them that when
our Church Is organized we shall have an ordina-
tion service, but we recognize those who are Or
dained In other churches.
REPoRrER-H0w does the Episcopal Church, as
now constituted, regard ministers OF other de-
Bishop CUMnINs-Tn the diocese OF Illinois, l
sumed an arrogance toward other denomina-
tons which has prevented Its growth II refuses e
sequence, its position Is something like thls:-
We are the Church; therefore you are not the
Church; therefore your ministers are not minis
ters; therefore your marriages are not marriages;
your wives are not welded; you are all in error.
This policy has % been most most disastrous. The popuIa-
5000 900 people to-day, has been growing steadily
within the past 10 years, and yet the Episcopal
Church has scarcely gained convert In that time.
The growth Of the Church has not kept pace with
that OF the State here, at any rate.
striving to bring the Episcopal Church into unity
with the Church OF Romes
Bishop CuMMINs-No, indeed. Why should they.
In point OF fact They can come near 1t as they
want They can assimilate to 1t, can enjoy the
pomps and ceremonies OF the Church, the absolu-
authority OF the Church. There is one other rea-
son why the Episcopal Church will never go 10
Episcopal Church have wives and families, and
that alone would disqualify them. No, there is no
danger that the ritualists VIII ever 60 over TO
REPoRTER-How do you regard the standing of
your Church?
pal Church exactly as the Old Catholics OF Germany
stand toward the new Catholics.
REPORTER-Do you suppose tnat the Evangelical
Alliance had anything TO do with precpltatng thls
Bishop CuMMINs-It had something to do with it !;
yes certainty. The fact that ] cOmmuned with
clergymen Of other denominations raised such an
outcry that thought the time had come to take a
DOld stand. dld 80 anu lett tnaC ChurCn. And
subsequently discovered that had not done so l
should have been presented. Your readers are
familiar with these matters Of course felt that
II could not recognize ministers OF other Churches
at the communion table, because the Episcopal
Church forbade it. l had better leave 1t. And I
have left 1t.
REPoRTER-what will be the service at Christ
church Tomorrow
Bishop CUAAINs-The conservative service will
be held and a sermon preached by me.
REPORTER-WhO will assist you In that services
Bishop CgnMINs-The Revs. Marshall 8. Smith
and Mason Gallagher, OF New Jersey; the Rev. b.
b. Leacock. OF New York city; the Rev. W. b. Felt
WELL OF New York, and the Rev. Charles Il. Tucker,
OF Chicago.
REPoRTER-win any laymen participate in the
conservation services?
Bishop CUMMINs-Only one. Colonel @. Acrygg
will read the certificate OF Mr.. Cbeneys election to
the Eplscopate by The Council held IN New York on
December 2.