Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1873-01-14
were they?

Q.-Who were they? IL
A-Mr. Samuel Hooper, Mr.: Boyer, Of IA,
Mr.. Grimes. and MIR. Alley. They were origi-
nal subscribers.
Q.-Have YOU any know ledge OF them holding
stock which stood in the name Of Cakes Ames,
trustee? ttr
Ans-No, sir. At one time the credit mo-
bilier was pushed around the country
TO GET OFT OF THE HANDS OF JAMES Frog,
and during that time many OF its papers were
lost. The stock at first stood AZ 80 cents from
January to May, 1861. Don't remember what
the price was in December, 1851, or January.
ls6 IL was considered very valuable then
Wi ness thought il was At 30 or 80 at least
hen. The dividends u. 7. stock) had gone
down since then.
BY Judge Black:-Kncw nothing about any
shar, set apart 10 he distributed at Washing
ton among members OF Congress or elsewhere
Mr.Ames paid for the shares IN his name ~ tris-
payingfor them a. he took them. Mr.. A mesusuay
gave his personal check on Boston banks for the
money for the shares.
NE. CRANE CAN EXPLAIN
the profits of the Oakes Ames contract; witness
had nothing 10 do with that. The fifty shares
were not transferred by Durant TO Nelson; il
were taken to Philadelphia at one time, TO avoid
judicial process in the state Of New York. Oil
yer Ames was larger stakeholder than Cakes
Am Ames: D9rans , Was also large steckholdeI
they gave a. dividends from the Union Pacific
railroad company at IS cents. and paid for them
out of the money which they received from the
new subscriptions. No officer of the company
has the right 10 put up the stock for sale. Wit
ness might have received special instructions
from the officers of the company. Mr.. Alley had
a good deal of influence among the stockholders.
Did not see Mr.. Alley looking over the books
frequently. lie took lively interest i'm the
credit mobilier. The credit mobilier was never
engaged i'm any other business except that which
il Is trying tn do, dissolve its corporate ca
pacity and surrender its charter. Heard nothing
OF any agreement by which shares held by Nell
son we've To be for the benefit OF Mr.. Brooks
Many OF the papers and books were
LOST AT THE TINE OF THE FISK Suit:
they were removed from the office BY MIR. Dill
Ion. Part OF them went travelling, to avoid let
ting people see them who had no interest in
them.
Question. Had not the court ordered them?
Answer. No, sir; they were never ordered. IL
they were, they were out Of the jurisdiction OF
the state. lLaughter.l
Q. Are not those books still flying from the
same pursuit?
A. No, sir; Mr.. Fisk is dead.
q. Yes, but the general public has an interest
i'm this matter stlll?
A. In the first place, deny that the public
has a lively interest ia this matter. Ii is only
Q. Do you know what has become of the STOCK
transfer book?
A. No, sir: il has disappeared.
Q. Where has il disappeared to?
A. don't know.
q. Did YOU not DESTROY il?
A.-NO, sir, did not. Witness further testi-
neu tnat ne never Kept a DiOtttr. anu In answer
to question of Judge Poland said he supposed
somebody had signed paper authorizing the
issue of 30 shares additional To Mr.. Nelson.
By Mr.. Alley-At the time the increase i'm the
capitol stock was made many of the stockhold
ers declined to take il. Did not remember OF
any stakeholder being refused TO see the books
of the company. The books were taken away
on account of the Fisk suit, and not to keep the
books away from the stockholders.
BY Judge Poland.-Has no information nor
belief as to where the missing books are; can
give no clue as to where they may be; did not
remember of seeing Alleys name on the paper
authorizing the issue OF 20 shares additional TO
Nelson.
By Judge Black.-Did not remember what
was in the answer TO the summon 10 produce the
books In the Pennsylvania suit; may have said
the books were in daily use.
By Judge Merrick.-Aley, Hazard and Dillon
were the principal managers OF the credit
mObilier.
NE. CRANE on THE STANG.
H. G. Crane sworn:-Resides i'm Yonkers, y.
short time while it was being built. Owned
stock i'm the credit mobilier. Was assistant
treasurer Of the company.
Q. Do you know anything about the transfer
Of stock to Mr.. Nelson?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Well, what is il?
A. On the oath of December, 1867, Mr.. james
Brooks paid me a. 600 by a check, and gave m.
his draft for 5000, for which i transferred "a
MIR. Charles III. Nelson, at the request of Mr.
Brooks. one hundred shares of credit mobilieI
and two hundred shares Pacific stock. believe
i delivered to him the same day five first mort
gage bonds Union Pacific railroad. The stock
was Durant's. / know nothing about any nego-
ton for the purchase of the stock, never having
heard any conversation about il.
Q. Why did YOU deliver to him the five bonds?
A. My memoranda says it was a credit on the
credit moblier.