The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-01-25
DISCREDIT M0BlLIER
Continuation Of the Poland
Investigation.
Pig-Iron Kelley Asks for and OBJ
tains His Stock.
HOAX AMES' CONFESSION.
The Sergeant-at-Arms Again Examined
as to These Checks.
Ten Thousand Dollars to the
Credit Of Ames.
The Arch Tempter and the
Vice President.
DKsraceful Disclosures Of Collision and
Painful Scene in the Committee.
Ten Thousand Dollars TO the
Credit Of AmeS.
The Arch Tempter and the
Vice President.
Dkgraceiul Disclosures Of Collision and
Painful Scene in the Committee.
C0LFAX's THIRD DISCLAIMER.
Proceedings in the Wilson Investigating
Committee.

WASHINGTON, Jan. "a, 1873.
Judge Poland's special committee TO investigate
the charge Of Credit Mobllier stock being dis
tributed to members OF Congress resumed its SEES
sion this morning, and Hon. William D. Kelley
cross-examined cakes Ames.
Question by Judge Kelley-I understand from your
Credit Mobiiier stock A. Yes, sir.
my When You paid for them in june s6s
Have there been any dividends since, 4: Yes, sir
q. Have you put them to my credit A. hold them
O. Then can you tell me what property of mine, You
hold Ten shares OF Credit Mobilier stock and ten
8 When did you get the Union Pacific stock A. It
have or shges dyideaas Srsaii MoSiisf
JUST WHAT KELLEY OWNS.
me @s hs to
forty Or dy shares Of Union Pacific stock also re-
the company was not able to give and they were ex,
For the present ,n simply pursui, Of what
property you hold for me A Yes sir think can by
s sE 'Ns to q 5sS MGss5 ss ss
ASK for Credit MSsiIisr stock , DID
Kelley in front Of the Epbitt House had interviews with
Kelley money prior 10 the Credit tMober Transaction
MScie Hw stock and w Of 0fea
predicting Ssl ZIP the eeTacate OF Credit Moo
eE stock from his pocketII can deliver them now
I KeeyNHaGd them to 1 the Chairman, with the list
Mr. H%es As an he certificates to Judge poland,
HGS Say you own them don't see how you are
Mr. Kelley-Bpt you see do own them, and intend
MI Ames-Cerainly sir that is what agree to per.
q When receive these from the Chairman, shall
e: How does that Gomez 4 il you receive all the
Al paid for BY the rst dividend OF bonds and the cash
q Did yos ever hand me check marked wv D. K",
asse sny ether except those marked
endorsed his ana Mr.. Patterson endorsed his ''0'
sayps eni
received the cheek alluded to ~ Mr. Ames; cannot
IL a to Ing C %f d. %
did not receive have always regarded as loan the
Mr. XmesSDidnt You ask me repeatedly when you
sir; did not remember OF giving Mr.. Ames note or re-
O. cBy Ames What was said when handed you $780,
4. cannot tell had asked you few days before tor
ia hs so Sas n"a MN ABOUT
oway az he Rouse was
called and explained how the business Of his ONCE was
O @ sa'n He ns
Snfed h sn 81 ans pa @ @ne AZ
and signed oakes xmes: he also produced the check
Ames. ''''''
1essrs Coltax Patterson and Garfield last evening to
determine upon the they should to break
ie, he F n a SseeE ysstssday T9snSn
OF s pS e sTk tn tine es
e the cheeks and entries The former who cashier Of
or Mr av X S he s" ssd
MR. AMEs MADE A DEPOSIT OF TEN rgousAyp notI.ns
to his private account in June, 1865
cheek charged to Mr ooilaS 'YA anu ns
The Wtnsss.It Is but see nothing to the credit Of his
account Mr Goiiax OF 81, 30 check u "e
a hs that SfS s h xSt
number Of With Mr. Ames the subject OF
versai9n with him ABOUT the N day Of January
fore the committee. ''
ments A. think he did am not certain, as ~ alluded
to the statement myself Iso the impression that he had
q. What did he say1 A. We had general converse.
%ent did not agree with testimony in the besnnins
IN response he made general remark and believe he
mini w ,os et Ar IN ms NJ SrA Sx
did not him to say he carried thns sNr
his head entirely my recollection Is that he said Mr.
Mr, Amcs-DId tell you Mr. ooiax's statement was
substantially probably corrccti A. think so think
y3n said probably correct"
Mr.. CrounseThe must say thai will have to with
draw ny confidence in your statements you made in
Mr.: Ames your DISPATCHES to yesterdays Tn,. did
THEY mere direct Of the testimony That
Mr. Crounse-My dispatches 10 the Ttnes have been
Mr. Ames-yes, generally; but that one yesterday
Judge Poland-where was this conversation with Mr..
inferred from what Mr. Anes said that he had kept
Soi teS0'a OF ''e transaction" between himself ard Mr.
q. Now, what is your recollection as to
X.
MY best recollection is that he used the words proba
Mr. AmesEWe. this is no proof in the case,
can I,s Sec either pdi.nd fo no or sgainst,
staemen, In reference to The Conversation between
Mr.. Ames-Oh, had conversation with him; It was
mere casual conversation with him. and did not say
five words: don't remember OF saying anything him
Judge foand-you knew he was a newspaper reporters
Mr. kelley to Mr.. Ames-Do the ten shares of Credit
the committee subec, TO my order bear any portion OF
Mr. Ames-Yes, sir they are entitled 10 all the dvi-
Mt Kellcy-I desire to say, Mr.. Chairman, that you
Mr. Colls Inanired of wT Ines why he did not cross
examine him about that check when he gave his esti-
mony.
THE MOST uNKisprsr ALL
let you on easy could was in hopes it would not
Mr. Ames to MT; colfax-Did you receive the sl,2p'
Mr. Coliax then requested Mr. Ames produce his prI
raie memorandum book
ne mau refrcshed his memory during the recess and
nrougn with him such extracts from It as he thought
Mr. Ames then read therefrom the entries showing the
amounts paid to various which put in evil
Mr. Coliax-ln conversation Al wormleys did not tell
YOU You had never received any divdendf A. don't
Mr. Nblack suggested that the investigation was in.
volving me character OF number Of gentlemen and If
all this was g continue he hoped the gentle
Judge Poiand~ws, I'VE have S lawyers here we win
MI COnax-Nr, AIUSs. ~ yyuf private memorandum