, 1873-01-25

reporter?
Anawer-Yes, sir.
Kelley ito Ames)- )-Do tho ten shares Of credi
Mo6lllerstock placed in the hands Of the Chair
man OF the Committee, subject to my order
bear any portion Of the dividends under' til,
Oakcs A1nes' contract?
.Ames.-Yes, cir they arc entitled to Ill tht
k dividends. ~ ~@'>
kelley-I desire to eay, Mr. Chairman. thai
you Will please ho1d them to 1nyorder
T Colfa1 inquired OF Ames why he did not crose.
examine him about that check when he gave biz
Ames-1 did not want to bring it out; I wanted
TO let you OF as easy as conld; WAS IN hopes
lit would not come out
T. Ames to Colfax-Did you receive that 81 200
Cohs1-1 did not. Colfax then requested
! Amos to produce his private memorandum-book.
Ames replied he did not have It With him. bat
! he had refreshed his memory during the recess,
and brought with him such extracts from it a.
he thought necessary. Ames then read there-
from entries showing the amounts paid to w.
i Wednesday.
Coitaz-1n conversation at Worm1ey's, did I
not tell you had mover received any dividends ?
AmesI don't rccollect.
Niblack suggested that the Investigation ras
involving the character of number. OF gentle
men, and II all this questioning YES to continue.
lowed council >
Judge Poland Well, if we have lawyers here,
We will have to go all over the matter again.
Colfax-Mr. Ames, in your private menornn~
dunn book, which I hope the Committee wiz
have brought here, have you the names OF the
members n1,1 Of Congress whom you let hare
A.-Yes, sir.
,Q.-Wnl you tell me why you made thatcheck
which you say You pnid me, payable to 's8 c.
Then Sh;aay you made the one:yon say you gare to
Al rNnsf frra ~ hn
did not put in any nanes.
Q.-Did give you any receipt for this cheok7
mo, sir; It never belonged to me.
Glare yon ever told me- during the past
1our years that was the owner OF this stock7
Al don't know whether did or not. I
Know Il anybody 'has told mo In the last four
years that own my Own hat. ILaughter.] I
DO not understand your version Of the affair at
AZ. gaze yo9tho CHECK, and here is proof Of
get around it, or over it
:, colfa1-Whete Was: when you gave me- the
check,-in the chair or on the floor?
:, Ames-Oh1 don't know; can't remember
that
Colfa1 to the Committee repeare1actly as I
stated before, that never received q dollar On
any account from tha Credit Mobilier; I never
saw the check, and don't know whether it was
signed By 0. An1eB or Oakes Ames-why he mado
this chesk papable to ''S. C.' / cannot imagine:
l could net have added to my income $i,206
without r rnembenng something about it, Dur
ing the wnole Of this four years he has never
proposes to pay me anything and never told me
Was the oWner OF tho stock. I told Ames I
would not buy into a lawsuit, and that ended
the matter between us.
Au1es-The check for e532.74 completed your
payment for tho stock.
Fudge Poland to Colta1-Do you admit that
you gave him check for s532 "a:
Colfax-Isupposo so I thought nt the time
"as paylng hlm $500 on my purchase and inter
est, but did not understand that this completed
the transaction. / understood that the Edivi- !
oends had been earned, and were unadjusted, |
ne, but did not nndeEatand that they completed |
the purchase. He did nat remember Of Amcs |
saying anything about selling tie bonds When !
the $500 we're paid BY the witness, he had tho |
when sold, would 60 TO complete the purchaso;
he supposed he did pay Ames the $531 by check
ON the sergeaut-at-Arms, but was confident that |
he never received any check for 81 200 from
aannes an either payable to rs. o." or !" Schuyler
posed tho check marked "s. c." was
sone memorandum by which ho settled the |
matter ctter be (colfax) told him ho would !
have nothing to do with the stock, and would /
not bny into lawsuit He had never received |
certificate Of stock, and 40 proceeds from it,
De Lad en1savored, since he had been Speaker
II the House and Vice President Of the United
States, to make his salary and private income
oay his bills, and had been in The babit OF max
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financial condition, but had l,ever preserved
hese statements. II the Committee would ex-
mine the checks in the First National Bank.
where he kept his account they would see that
Fithout being asked whether payable to order Or
carer. The singularity about this matter was !
hat Ames stated that this checE Was PAYABLE to
5. e." and others received clacB payable in !
hcr nazuea-
Amest-Nr- Colfax, did 7 nos tender You q
tatcment of the sale Of bends ieceired as diyi-
ends, and you gave me that s5s2 check for the
colfa1-No, sir; there might hare been slip
paper: menorandum Of s532 duo. I am
Amea-I ask you it did not give you a state
lent, showing credit derived from the sale Of
oDds?
Colfa1-I deny it.
Ames-1 am so,1y to hear you. ]
Colfa1-You told me some dividends had been t
armed, but were unadjuated.
Ames-1f he denies it, ard says he did not, r
mt want to ask MIN any more questions that
Colfs9-Read from the forn,er testimony OF .
mes, and ask him what he meant when he said y
I do Q, not know whether ho or 4 own the t
Ames-1 understood you owned it, and wanted 4
9 to own it. Ames further testified that ho Il
mes) made his first statemcnt before
Q Committee, and asked him o.
'ona1) II they understood each other. te
'fa1 said, "You will testify to Tho truth, and tc
{Ames) replied, " "Certainly, I am going to do st
IT. He now supposed that Colfa1 had got an Of
"a from the testimony OF Crounse that he re
mes) was going to testify the same as Co1fax Vi
Jolfax again read from the testimony OF th
1893, and asked him how he made certain parte p1
bis testimony then agree with what ha had ii,
tilted since. vi
Ames-I have refreshed my memory since th
N my books and the books Of the Sergoant-at- be
MS. don't think yon can swear hard enough ] in
e to get out Of it either. remember all now,
hare the Touchers.
;olfa1-to Judge Po1and-I rest the case, sir. fe
The Committee adjourned until tomorrow. E.
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THE WILSON COMMITTEE.
OLIVER AMEs TESTIMONY. VII
7AsHEGToS, Jan. 2f-Tho Wilson Investi- ~
ing Committee to-day we're in secret session di1
eral hours. in,
t o'clock it resumed the examination of til.
Ier Ames. He, testified that the sum Of tai
8 900 was act apart for special legal expenses: Ce
not the least idea how the money was used Gre