The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-08-19
The Savior Business as a Po-
litical Force.
No Third Term the Democratic
WatchwOrd.

mere. Leu INC Gull your atCcnCOu TO CIT.
cumstance which is little signh ant, to say the
least OF It, when taken in connection with the
presence here OF 80 many Of the democrats and
liberals, and which may yet have something to do
IN wider sphere of action than the State refer
to the arrival OF william s. Groesbeck Reverdy
johnson, Wash. Mclean, OF Cincinnati and
several other gentlemen from the West and South
more or less prominent in the democratic ranks.
1t Is scarcely necessary for me to refer at length to
Mr.. Groesbeck or TO inform your readers that ne
was the most formidable candidate against Mr..
Greeley for the nomination for the Presidency at
the Cincinnati Convention year ago. As to
Wash. N. Lean, his fame is world wide as one
OF the great national democratic wheel horses,
ana who, oil democrats now concede, made
one OF the greatest mistakes OF his life
In engineering to success the nomination OF
poor lamented Horace. These two gentlemen
arrived together and are now stopping at Congress
Hall. There may, indeed, be nothing significant
in the fact Of their arrival together; but as not
day has passed since they came here that some OF
the liberals and leading democrats have not been
IN conference with them, it is surmised that the
New Workers even have larger field OF usefulness
to look forward to than the Empire State alone.
Mr.. Groesbeck refuses to be catechsed rs to
whether he has come on here for any political pur-
pose, but am led to believe that his visit is not
simply one OF pleasure from interview had
this afternoon with gentleman distinguished in
the political world. In the course OF conversation
this gentleman remarked:- T do not by any means
think 1t too early, even at this distance from the
next Presidential election, for
DEMOCRATS TO TAKE COUNSEL AMONG THEMSELVES
that when the time comes for action there shall
be harmony in the ranks and no distracting ele
ments to render defeat probable. To take counsel
now is but to follow the dictates OF good Judgment
for we should not be idle while the enemy Is at
work."
'Do you mean to INFER" asked, "that the re.
publicans are already taking any action that may
have any essential bearing on the campaign Of 1902"
81 do,n was the candid reply. 1--WE people out
West do not probably understand the DRIFT of affairs
here East as well as New Workers do, but for all
that we not always asleep; at least, II we do
get asleep once 10 while, we try to keep one eye
open, and we generally succeed pretty well. Now
] say candidly that we know that the republicans
and when / say republicans l mean those men
closely identified with the present ADMINISTRATION
are quietly laying their pipes preparatory to having
the campaign OF 76, or at least its results all their
own way. Had the time could cite you hun
dred different circumstances which have come
under my own observation lately, because, proba-
bly,, have made it my special object OF late to look
into the matter, which convinces me that
THIRD TERN FOR GENERAL GRANT
s not looked upon by his followers IN the light OF
an imprObability. You have read the various ar
ticles on Casarsm in the HERALD. 1 SUPPOSE
Your correspondent here laughingy replied that
he did read the HERALD every day.l swell,
SIR" added my nterlocutor, "the first article that
appeared created q good deal of amusement
among US out West for we got it into our heads
that it was little too soon, II not ridiculous, to
talk about Grants nomination in '76 when he
had scarcely got well into his second
term in '73 Still, when article after
article appeared the force Of the arguments against
the idea OF third term was SUFFICIENT In the end
to make men think that, after all, third term was
indeed a possibility, and that General Grants
friends would not hesitate to renominate him
again If they could, in order to secure themselves
In ONCE. Well you must have perceived how the
press OF the entire country have Of late taken up
the discussion begun Ivy the HERALD. Some OF
them laugh at the Idea, but if the HERALD had no
other end In view In starting the discussion than to
bring out the general sentiment OF the press on
the subject 1t has most admirably accomplished its
purpose; Tor even the very journals that laugh at
iect up at this early date, intimate that a third
term Is a thing the American people would hardly
TS 70 s 90 any %a the The to
calls IT, but the effect OF the discussion has been SO
far admirable
"And do you really believe" 1 here queried,
"that the adIninisti alton party-at least its con-
trollers-even dream Of putting Grant in for third
II know many OF them do-know It as surely as
sit here" was the reply. ~ have been personally
acquainted with General Grant for several years,
and Will do him the justice to say that do not
think he himself has as yet given the matter a
thought; at least If he has thought about it ser.
VOID or act given anybody to believe that ne would
like o denomination for q third term. But there Is
mo we en openy GU yoWe%
one term man. yet he did not hesitate to take the
second n MOI ,au;s in fact he worked hard
n his Inaagq,a ~ last Msrcas DON'T !Sa
people that he mad not sought for the nom
na.ionf How Mr.. Boutwell, and the oifice-holders
over a wns s t he
gates, and the reason why and wherefore certain
men should be elected, must have laughed in
svowall Now, what forced' General Grant to
take second nomination may induce him to
believe General Grant is at present doing any
thing directly or indirectly, towar r paving the
very class OF men who put him in nomination for
a second term are not only thinking about third
term, but are quietly sounding their followers and
WORKING UNDER COVER
TO make the thing feasible. And II they shou ID
succeed, a. GOOD an opinion as have OF General
confess tharI believe firmly that he would accept
the denomination as unconcernedly Is he did the
"But DO you not think the people will have some.
thi No to say about all Elis?r
'Gf course they win Between now and '7e they
may be ulletxnto the belief that It Is nonsense to
talk about 1t until the campaign opens; but the
offlce-holders are SO many aud so we'll organized
all over the Union that las things now 60 In the
matter OF eecting delegates) when the time comes
for the Convention to meet nine-tenths
of the members will be Grant men. And the
ONCE holders nave experience now, and know how
to manufacture enthusiasm for their candidate
here there and elsewhere, so that the very persons
who may have opposed The schemers' plans at
FIRST In tile end may take 1t for granted that the
great mass O. the people are in favor OF them, and
quietly acquiesce."
$50 far as your observation goes out West are
you able to state whether or not this subject OF
C&sarism creates any discussion among the
peoplcg'
"well sir. frankly admit that myself At nrst