The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-03-20
Second Days Proceedings Before
the Assembly Committee.
Testimony Of Ex-Speaker Smith
and Matthew Hale.
History Of the First Movements Of The Enemy
Upon the Old Eric Directors.
NO BRIDES, NO LOBBY, NO RAKE.

ing, at nine O'Clock, at their room in State street.
all the members being present, except Mr.. OP.
dyke. Ex-Speaker Henry Smith and Matthew Hale
were before the committee and gave testimony,
the examination being conducted by Messrs. Bah
cock and Carpenter.
TESTIMONY OF ExsPEAKER SMITH.
tanned on ?snua ~ nj in "a
n e @ Of s Ens.
ors; this was the frst time that he had been
English % ssd whS ssa ss.
sSs the no Of the Ts wsy that
General Barlow had concluded to bring the suit and had
q be
General Barlow determined to return Messr Hale
opinions ,esarains the judiciary New YORK decided
sGeh
With suits against the Erie Railway instituted b Ramsey
member Of the Assembly;
Would attend to legal S bus sss
and that all that would probably be needed from him
check f ior $500 n this 1 %as
and was, used BY himself for his own purposes
was nothing sad asns
IT. ne was not informed BY any one directly or nd
LEGISLATION. and hsa suspicion that We're
s
Act ana to the Of such laws az would give
ana the road through proper Board OF Directors the
ATTORNEY GENERALS BILL
Of " e nS s ns e %s in the
to suspend the present Erie officers and there was BIZ
the and to EEs
that no se sS Of the Anc and Great
any committee while Speaker except the Judi judi,
Siasy Committee ana then not Erie Railway matters
. IN FAVOR or the ERIE srooKHoLpERs
in proper manner. and no more; he had been con-
tors Also suit brought Mr. Burke he supposed
sf
@ Se s Of e
Mr.. smith further testified that he had connection
lad iet.e! rom NJ; Barlow 70 SONS q NEW York when
ns 70 as 10 e nS Hs had
knowledge information suspicion that money to
Legislature last Winter and TO his knowledge was
any money used against the directors.
TESTIMONY OF MATTHEW HALE.
Mr. Matthe " Hale was next examined by Mr. Babcock,
asS the he e ns he
spoken to before January nOt thought that Mr. Bar
G% % he lad sS sys to %
% ss he Mo @ s hSn MAS S
control OF them and to employ proper counsel to x
MR.. BARLOW EMPLOYED HIM
also Mr.. rreman and M. smith; MI Barlow said at the
cure legislation and that he employed MI Trenain
and Mr. Hale do the Of work on January
Tetsnins counsel il the suit q The English stock
s ne on s hs be tho
!aner was understood to come from the Bischoffs-
the the
% eS h aSa
to draft such bills necessary
he e % the v on
to- Sew a Win M he
met Messrs Barlow, sickles, southmayd and James G:
represented the Heath and Raphael branch Of the Eng
fish stockholders and he understood that both they and
Gust the present Erie directors
took place at General Bariows house. i. New York. it
was agreed TO bring s the e. suits in ASan Mr.
sn ns eross h s b Mr.
relation to the suits against the corporstos and the bill
to repeal the Erie act arawn BY some
erals nv hana HI isSs.,
e. sd..ry
sn ., sb pG ss printed with
halt Of the directors of the road Judge seldom
sew ana also MI Bemis; the amount he received from
ns .na
1er tle il he
engaged in will case in New York and the he
no ..ran NOS. OF Tns WORN rH,E OK Sh HALE;
Sui Ps ne h Mr.
proposed TO employ him Barlow hesitated
that and
as
smith was bis familiarity, with Erie matters
Hn SAe suits Erie ns srd@ s' the Is :ss sn
se OF by the w a Ss he
not know Of any money being ned except in The em.
hat English SD were Willing to spend
money iberaly but no money for nenciRg any leg
he had no knowledge Of any money spent by the Erie
poys$ arsl.s any ny sssays was bis e be
IN III d sas Ss d n tee. @
nothing was said to influence Mr. Smith in his actions
S hs cSea S Mr. pesHs5 St
S@ By snrw pad G Sybe s p T III
party and there was an additional sum paid him 70 be
stenographic reporting, &c.
Mr.. Hale was questioned by Mr. Carpenter as TO the
parties KNOWN the third hone one lCSby. whS
the Erie Railroad matter he stated in reply t6st the
wed s be IN S mot OF III c
% the o Erie Gs
an r. he snaSeP AGAINST e ane
he dS ns %aas
won e % r. d mnS
not remember who they were Mr. Hale did. not think
employed on he side OF the =, Opposition
IN Albany but was looking after evidence and he wa
AOt Lobbyist; Mr. Goodrich. OF Kings comply formerly
member or the Assembly ives in Albany but there wer
lobbyists that Mr.. Hale knew Of working in the in
terests OF the English stockholders.
SECRET SESSION.
After the examination Of Mr.. Hale was con
GUIDED the committee went into secret session ant
adjourned to meet in New York On Friday mOrninj
at 10 O'Clock at either the Fifth Avenae Hotel o
the Metropolitan.
Card from Attorney General Barlow.
NEW YORK. March 10, 1873.
To THE EDITOR OF. THE HERALD
You are mistaken in supposing in to-day's pape
that 10 not account for the $4,000. The check
in the hands of the committee account for tn
whols sl2oo received the $4,000 as early a
March. The amounts were only paid once b
Sicsles to re and by Erie to him. Sckles' onl
error IL in stating In his account with Erie that Tn
money was paid me for services instead VI sayin