New-York tribune., 1873-01-08

said ne did 80 because he regarded capitalist
he was very much mistaken in that, and said nc nc
said tell you this is great thing he put his hand
down ON my desk In my counting-rocm; snd, ls
great thing for the country, ard should be gad
could with safety be associated with you and others IN
putting the enterprise through he observed Oeleye
1t can he done, aud am going 70 tell you how Will DO
impossible to build IL under the provisions OF that b
but you can construct 1t by echlracting company 70
scribe limited amount and be in no danger OF losing
and mysef going to take hold OF this and IL you viii
take hold with believe IL can be put throughi and
there danger II it is properly naDaged." lie ex,
pained regard to building sections the road aud
how could be done safely Dy corporation Be Wehton:
~ am willing put in with my family 81 100000, aud
wnt YOU 10 put in OOO want to be identihed with
Us: II can be made safe thing TO do ana reasonaue
To- me WIS of patriotic character the plan at that time
struck me as hardly feasble said DAD not want To 60
served 81 want very much your influence as well as
your money! shah want pecnnlary aid ana a. 'nerG ne %
every consideration with me why we Want you 70 90 III;
Rv Mr. Nblack-And did you 20 int We desire yOu 10
make this general statement as short as youea
RIVAL PARTIES IN TIE SCHEME.
A. Twill not say another word on that supect you
will remember that this matter Of very great import
once IN ve.v dear friend of ne and therefore desire
TO state very fully went INTO the Credit Mobiner
put IN $OOOO under Mr. Ames persuasion; he pefsuaoeu
great many OF MS 10 90 In in the same way ahOhs
Others senator Grimes and Mr. Hooper, member Oh the
House that is all l know aD0ut members VI 80, nV a.
tress: Mr. Hooper IS a member OF Congress now anu IL
is proposed that should mention ms name ne wen. ~ ~
at the time and on the same ground .hat Gu d,
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corruption IN II; after the eecon OF Diroc'9ls t ~
the Credit M0biner, we went TO NeW-1Ork anu lDut [
standing of rhos c. Duran $50 shares OF stock
which had not been PAID Tor; we caued M pi n sid
attention it, and asked him what II meant nc halu
names 10 me; perhaps he did If So have forgotten
he said he held them In trust; told him he must enel
held must nav; he rather declined; told him that
must be put into different form than that 1t nd not
After considerable talking lie transferred to the Com
pany. and It placed IN the name OF Mr. Dillon Pres
the Summer OF 1867, according TO my recolIecllOn
1t was for sale during that whole time; II was
fll his promise TO give it TO the men Nhola
he pretended to be carrying 1t for. They were moi
ready he said TO take II then so 1t was carried aong
It was very difficult 20 sell it; there not much can
for IT. Mr. Ames had great faith in it, and believed u
aud Mr.. DuTlnt turned out, there was great con-
troversy and great deal Of ileeng, and as you may
Sir. Durant and his party said the Credit Mobi4er
should never have another contracts the Credit loDer
built 200 miles, and no said they saould never
have another contract, ana they never altei oD
tained contracts while this condition OF tiaHg;
was existing everybody connected with the IOdd
supposed that the Credit Mobiiier would keep on
1t had begun, as the contracting party 70 build
enisted his pride and everything forbade it, lie ap1
his party tried until there was election in the Fan
the final result would be that it would be found FOR
the interest OF al tho parties concerned to allow t.o~
of stock still remained for sale; Mr.. Anes was
trying to sell 1t TO eveIybody, espeGIay TO mo tOs ~
load on his shoulders lie felt that lac had big enter
PRISE and he soliciting men from every quarter u
SENATOR WILSON'S STOCK.
Finally he told day that he believed this STOCK
was going to be worth several dollars for one that
certainly would If we could get contract to build the
whole road the capital stock of the Company was hen
S375OOOO; II the Company undertook 10 buld me Fodi
would be long time probably before they wouia seI
enough out OF IL TO make any handsome profits on thcF
, IT ViIson have some of this stock aud remarked:
t.T baIf. l.. ofrond |
some his wife, You know, has got some money 10 lhNe3
Wilson Is good fellow, anQ think II %h Oe q nice
couple thousand dollars OF IT, VIII guarantee iHeui
against loss ne win gIIe tlto te ii t hack M arv
time and give him 10 per cent on MS money
asked me what thought Of II; do not know that
inc ahout H. and he asked what thought ne should
do he said Mr. Ames had offered TO guarantee IN the
way have stated told HIM he could not ahor1 20 'se
perfectly safe OF course did not see Why he shoui9
osaa & bn al. heard nothing abort II for some time
after; not until he came and wanted 10 know what
fhis thing meant about the McCOmb suit at Phlalel-
mia he bea rd that soeb body had sent him pamphet,
IN which there were charges OF corruptiOn bribery,
to him, you know who McComD Is 2" he replied,
Yes " II is not necessary Tor me to state what was
said in regard TO him he had come 10 the conclusion
that If he would be mixed up in suit
OF that kind, or if there was to be a shadow
or suspicion OF improperly be did not wish
remain in the company; told MIN dd not see any
wic owning 1t II bona Jde transaction DO was
bought with her money, as myself know, because
sum had been made up by Mr.. Ames myself, and many
other parties a present TO Mrs. Wilson the occa-
who told me about what Wilson had done / told
him did not see any use In his giving 1t back stlu,
III he chose TO give up what honestly belonged tO
him. it not for him TO object remember using tns
illustration with wilson said You say you nave no
Oelief whatever IN the chatse5 lhat NJ Alts del @
properly in any :" he said mo; that Anes offered
him the stock he knew only TO benet NM e fb
stockl would You get frightened ana return II 70 nj,
get it himself :" think that 10 the illustration used
he said, Il do not know bat you are right, Dut
do not want even breath OF suspicion against me You
know nat If there is man who Is pure IN re ara 10
these things 1t Is myself; am az poor as may be abu
that my wife have made 1900 out OF transaction
wrOngfully; what Is that TO me want IL al JlAen
back do want 70 have ANYTHING to do with IT, not
that have the slightest Suspicion that lr Ames hdu
any wrong intentions in any shape OF manner, Tor 40
know had not.
@ Please get on as rapidly as possible. You under
stood the money was paid back TO Mr.. Wilson or Mrs
Wilson A. | have understood SO sncc never heard
any more about u; the charge was inade IN he HsW.p
pes this last FAIL then he told me all paid back
ana suppose 1t was paid at the time.
DAWES AND BOUTWELL,.
BY the Charnan-IIow Ion was Mrs. Wilson the owner
OF these twenty sharesi A. Some months should thnk;
do not know about that do not reeoect for IL was
long time ago and II has passed out OF my nlna ahoGv
said he had been talking with Mr.. Ames about
Credit Mo0ilier; ne SAID me ae went to Mr.; AItfs t5s
Iowa railroads; Mr.. Ames had sold several thousand
dollars worth OF them, think, TO Gov WasnOur1 ; he
Credit Mobier and would know all about Il that he
had understood 1t was good investment II n tnt was ne
man. and has talked to me sometimes about ms
investments, which very natural, as 1 wac
his colleague; when he came to me he said
that he went TO Mr. Ames 10 buy this bond; that
Mr.. Ames had said he had none he could let hiul
have but that he could give him something better than
that ana that he then told him about the Credit Mob
ier that he asked Mr.. Ames II he thought 10 g0Od
thing ana Mr.. Ames replied that it and that MI
Alley could tell him all about 1t; that Mr.. Ames aad
remarked that II he not entirely satisfied
with it he could bring IL back and he would
give the money at any time; told Mr.. Dawes
that that was perfectly safe, OF course; he salu
he going to take it, and he did take II;
told afterward that his neighbor Larned in PITTS
field had said him that the Credit MOlier belonged