The Wheeling daily intelligencer. [volume] (Wheeling, W. Va.) 1865-1903, 1873-01-25
The Credit Mubilier Inquiry.
WASHINGTON, January "a

OARcS AmeS reiterated us testimony Lnhl
he held as the property Of Kelley ter
shares OF the Credit Mobiller stock
They became Kelley's property IN 1868
when he paid for them. The dividends
witness also held for Kelley. He also
held for him ten shares Of Union Pacific
stock, which came into his hands early in
1868. Besides the Credit Mobilier stock,
witness holds for Kelley thirty or forty
shares in Union Pacific stock and some
income bonds. Kelley then examined
Ames as follows:
Q.-Can you furnish the committee
with d list Of the property you hold for
meP Ayes, sir, think can by TO-.
morrow.
Q.-How did pay you for the Credit
AIobilier stock? Ain the first place
you were to pay me $1,000 Tor tho stock
and interest.
Odd ask you for the Credit Mo.
bilier stock, or did you ask me to take it !?
Al don't remember now, but know
you took 1t; had loaned Kelley money
prior TO the Mobilier transaction.
Q-How soon can you deliver my ten
shares of Credit Mobilier stock and diVl-
dends?
es-Producing certificate OF
Credit Mobilier stock from his pocket)
Il can deliver them now, sir; and diVl-
dends you can have soon.
Kelly-Hsnd them to the Chairman,
with list Of dividends for my use.
Ames-(HAnding certificates to Judge
Poland)-1f you say you don't own them
l don't see how you are entitled to diVi'
KeIiey--But you say 1 do own them
and intend to make usc Of them.
Ames-C Certainly, sir; that's what l
agree to perfectly.
Q-When l receive these from the
Chairman, will or not be your debtor.
A-Yes, Tor seven hundred and fifty dol
lara.
O-How does that como? Ali you
receive all dividends, and don't take my
pay, you will owe me seven hundred and
iilty dollars which I loaned you. The
Credit AIobilier stock was oil paid for by
the frat dividend Of bonds, and tho cash
dividend IN June following.
Odd you ever hand me check
marked w. D.K.H A.-Yes sir.
Q.-Were there any other checks ex-
capt those marked W. D. Z. and 8. G.. ?
A.-Yes, sir.
o-How manyH Al can't tell. I
see j. F. Wilson endorsed his and Patter.
son endorsed his.
Ames to Kelley-You don't deny hav.
ing received $320, do your
Kelley-NO, sir, don't deny having
received money; but I do deny having
received the check alluded to by Ames.
cannot remember Of having received It,
and l do not believe / received 1t. To
the best Of my knowledge l believe l did
not receive it. ! have always regarded
as a loan the amounts l received from
Amcs.
Ames-Didn'ty you ask me repeatedly II
you wo1ld get any moro dividends on
that stock. A.-No, sir; did not remem'
Der Of giving Ames o note or receipt
Q-By Ames-What was said when l
handed you the seven hundred and fifty
dollarsF A-Cannot tell; had asked
you few days before for loan.
Mr.. Ames said that Kelly had asked
him about the dividends In the stock.
N. G. OrdwaY, sergeant.at.Arms OF the
House, was recalled, and explained how
the business OF his office was conducted,
Private accounts being kept with each
member as they frequently sent drafts,
and produced books, and under the date
OF June %, 1858, pointed out the entry OF
three hundred and twenly.nine dollars
paid on a check marked W. D. K, and
signed Oakes Ames Ho also produced
the check, and testified that he believed
it was in the handwriting Of Ames.
Judge Kelley denied having o meeting
with Colfax, Patterson & Garfield last
evening, to determine upon the course
they should pursue 10 break down the
testimony Of Ames. ColIax, he stated,
left the city at ten o'clock yesterday for
Trenton, N. J.
Moses Dillon and Thomas B. Cheney,
clerks in the office oil tho Sergeant-at'
Arms OF the House, were examined az TO
checks and entries. The former, who Is
cashier OF the office, testified that he
would have paid q check marked Nv. D.
E." or rs. O."to Ames, II he had handed
It in. Ames made a deposit Of $4,000
to his private account in June, 1868.
Ames-Will you turn 10 the book and
see il the check for 1928 is charged to
Mr.. Colfax?
Witness-It is, but SEQ nothing to the
credit of his account except mileage and
salary; saw no credit to tho account Of
Mr.. ColIax Of q $1,000 check. =
L. L. Crounse, correspondent Of the
New York Times was the next witness.
He testified that he had quite nunlberof
conversations with Mr.. Alnes on the sub
lect OF this investigation-at least five or
six times. Had conversation with him
about the 7th Of January; thought 1t was
after Mr.. Collax made his statement be-
fore the committee.
Q-.By Mr.. Colfax.-Did he say he heard
my statement Al think he did; l am
not certain, as alluded TO the statement
myself. ! got tho impression that he
had heard it.
O-What did he ssyH Ave had q
general conversation, aud called his at
tention to the fact that your statement
did not agree with his testimony 10 the
beginning. In response he made gen.
eral remark, and l believe he said no had
no record but always carried In his head
these matters; think he said Colfax was
about to contract. did not understand
him to say he carried things in his head
entirely. My recollection Is that he said
Collax 5 statement was probably correct.
He said nothing about the $1,000.
Ames-Did l tell you Collax's state.
mcnt was substantially or probably cor
rectG
Crounse-I think so. l think you said
probably correct.
Ames-I said nothing Of the kind.
Crounse-Then must say will have
to withdraw my confidence in the state
mcnt you made in regard to Others.
Amcs-In your dispatches to ycstcr
days Times did you state facts as they
occurred bclOrO tho committee? TheV