The Leavenworth weekly times. [volume] (Leavenworth, Kan.) 1870-1880, 1873-02-13

OF exposing Mr.. Pomeroy in the
manner testified to?
A. The 6rst time I considered the matter
seriously was on the Saturday night previ-
ous, bat did not determine fully to do 90, If
should offer, until Monday
evening, January q, 1873.
Hutchings-Did You form this plan, or
was it suggested to you BY J. c. Horton or
any other person or pefsons?
A. While had heard it mentioned pre-
viously, I never considered it seriously until
as already stated, and cannot say whether
the project originated in my own mind, or
ut the suggestion of othtn.
Hutchings-After the plan was matured,
how many persons were privy to it and what
are their names?
A. When the plan was determined upon,
on Monday night, the only persons Privy to
the arrangement were B +. Simpson, ]. C.
Horton, Senator johnson, and myself.
and the only persons l ever communicated
them to we're George Peck and George Z.
Crowthers.
Hu,chings-When you made your state
ment in the Joint Committee did you not
had been informed of the matter?
A. did not, but want to say in explana-
ton that Mr.. Crowthers that morning said
he would give Mr.. Slower to understand that
when l arose to speak it was all right
When came here to the Senate Chambe.
for the first that day, at ii :45 4. m, l asked
Mr.. Crowther if he had spoken to Mr..
Slower, and understood that he had not.
Hutchings-Did you know that the par
tea, or some of them, who were privy to the
arrangements, had previously solicited Sena.
tor Walker to act the part you took, and
that he refused.
A. I never did.
Hutchings-Was not your only objec. in
going 10 Mr.. Pomeroy's rooms that night to
get him to offer you money and then expose
him?
A. 1t was my object to take money from
him if he offered it, and expose him in the
manner l did; bad no ether object.
Hutchings-If that was your only object
why dill yOn exact more than S., 900 when
he offered you that?
A. Well, it was with the object Of seeing
how much be would pay for votes.
Hutchings-Could you not have exposed
him just as we'll with s., 900 a. more?
A. think could.
Hutchings-Was it not part of the AZ
rangement that you were to get as much as
possible, and if you could defeat him with
out it not to expose matters!
A. 1t was not in anything l ever had
knowledge Of or anything to do with. Such
a thing was never breathed to me by living
mortal.
Hutchings-Did it not suggest itself Il
you, after you got s., 600, that you might
force Pomeroy to Withdraw without taking
the other 5000?
A. ] did not.
Hutchings-The first time you went "a
Pomeroy's room you asked him to lend
his influence to assist Mr.. Gilmore. did yor
not?
A. Yes.
Hu.chines-Do you think Mr.. Pomeroy
would have offered you money if you hat
not indicated to him that you would Gel
your vote?
A. do.
Hutchings-At the time you aroee TO go
and said that you had been informed that HI
wanted q business interview with you, hat
Pomeroy said anything about paying yot
money?
A. think not.
Hutchings-Did yon not, by that remark
intend to convey that you would accep
money?
A. did.
Hu,chings-Then do you not conside
that you laced the temptation before Mr.
Pomerov yourself?
A. Mr.. Pomorov had already determines
II wr.,ll ALL onA h2f
indicated the same to me by the invitation
sent me to hold private business interview
with him, and contributedto his belle! tha
| would sell, and in that manner may hav'
strengthened his purpose
Hu,chings-Had Mr. POmeroy ever aske'
you TO see him before you went and solicited
favor for Gilmore?
A. Yes.
Hu'ci,ings-When?
| A. At the time met him at the foot O
the stairs.
| Hutchingl-What did he say?
| A. l cannot give bis exact words, bu
when W, shook hands he said, in substance
that he had expected 10 see me before that
and requested me to call on him.
| Hutchinss-Do you not think, consider
ing the former relations between you AM
Mr.. Pomeroy, that social consideration
would justify such a request?
A. ! am inclined TO think they would.
Hu,chings-Then all the evidence yO'
have that POmeroy desired or intended t
corrupt you is what Mr.. Hargrove gave yo
when he told you about PomerOy wan,in
business interview?
A. That wss the strongest evidence
had.
| Hu,chings you not before that time
business transactions with Mr.. Pomeroy con
corning the interests of your city?
nv city, to secure the removal Of the lam
office there, and saw Mr.. Pomeroy an
solicited hi, influence.
Hutchings-Do yoa say that in carrying
out this plan 10 defeat Mr.. Pomeroy you ha
no malicious motives?
A. do say that had not.
Hutchings-Was not b. F. Simpson
a candidate for the United States Senate?
A. / know he was not.
Hu,chings-Hsd not your name been pre-
seuted by some of your friends "a a candi
date for the United States Senate?
A. Never TO my knowledge.
Hutchings-All the promise that yO
made to Pomeroy before he paid you tn
81, 600 WAS that you should vote for him OF
Wednesday, with the privilege Of reconsid
Grafton?
A. Ii was.
Hutchings-Did you not state on the foo
of the Joint Convention, in substance, tina
YOU knew the names Of members of tn
House who had Poneroy's money in thei
pockets, and at the proper time would dis
close such knowledge?
A. Icannot say what expressions l ma.
have made, but have no recollection Of ray
ing anything that could be construed to con
vey tina, meaning. can state most posi-
lively that the thought never entered 10.
mind Of applying any invidious remarks o
imputations upon the members Of the egis
larure, except as reported BY Mr.. Pomeroy
In the beginning of the speech ! was cain
and collected. and spoke deliberately. Dur
ing the litter par: was excited, and per
haps made some extravayant expressions.
Hu,chings-In yonr examination yo'
have stated that Mr.. Pomeroy only mention
ed three names. DO you desire TO be under
stood that your imputations on the floor .
tie joint convention extended to those TIRE