The New York herald., 1873-07-09
WESTERN POLITICS.
Important Interview with Senator
Thurman, Of Ohio.
His Views ON the Allen County Rssolntions-
The Harmsrs Movement-The Back-Pay
$50 Bounty Jump-His Candidacy
X for Governor
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fne very favorable opinion entertained and the
Aigh regard expressed for Mr.. Thurman in this
community are general, for the gentleman en-
loys the confidence Of all citizens irrespective
Of political biases, as was evinced by the large
number OF our leading men, the majority OF whom
we're working republicans, who joined In the well
coming reception given HIM at the residence OF
Dolonel william Allen on Friday night an account
Of which was sent you yesterday. With the
prospect OF Mr.. Thurman soon again appearing
before the public either In the capacity of the
democratic candidate for Governor--whiah posi-
'uon, as viii be seen below, he declines to accept
or as IN aspirant for reelection 70 the United
States Senate, and possibly in both, statement
bf his views in the unsettled condition OF the pub
Mc mind upon the probable course OF the de-
mocracy on the many new questions that are
springing up for discussion, will be hailed
with general favor no less Dy democrats
than republicans. With the view. OF eb-
tanning such expression therefore, I called
upon the Judge at Fruit Hill last night and ex.
planning to him the object OF my visit found him
very willing to state his views upon the subject
mentioned. In giving them below have en-
deavored to preserve near as possible the SEN
eUor's exact language. or course there was much
uesultory conversation that do not reproduce,
such as questions and answers on minor topics;
and In transcribng the result OF the conversation
from my notes taken at the time endeavOr to give
1t in O connected manner and just as he expressed
1t. believe that Judge Thurman's opinion upon
the Allen county matter has never before been au-
scientifically made public and 1t was upon this topic
In reply to my question as to what he thought Of
the movement he said:-
THE INTERVIEW.
He did not question the motives OF those engaged
IN what is called the Allen county movement. put
should even conclude to disband its organization,
lts purpose to do so VIII not be left in doubt. No
such dissolution IL could take place unless the great
tt ought to take place. Were they so convinced,
the organization would be abandoned at once, not
IN this or that spot, but all over the country. But
we see nothing OF the kind. In every State the
party maintains Its organization, and the talk
about abandoning not the talk OF the masses but
of politicians, and the masses VIII never be
brought to abandon by being told that their party
and the like offensive expressions that are ire.
auently heard or seen in the papers, They regard
such tals as San an insult and the only effect Is to
Too much stress was laid upon the fact that the
party had been constantly defeated ior the last
or whigs-had been defeated for more than
mateiy triumphed % % in 1s4o and again in % is4s, and and
again in ls6o II they could persevere, although
democratic party could also persevere. Some
people supposed that ali that was necessary to be
done IN order 70 secure success was TO drop the
name Of democrat; but nothing could be more
erroneous. What good had resulted to the federal
party BY dropping its name and taking that OF ma
tiOnal republicans afterwards abandoning that for
Whigf mere change OF name effects nothing,
and an attampt by politicians to form a new party
with no higher object than success, never did and
never viii succeed The democrats and liberal
republicans might well enough act together, and
1t would not be the fault of the democracy If they
did not. 1t was mere slang to talk about Bourbon
democracy. To apply such an epithet to party
that could sacrifice Its pride and prejudice as the
democratic party did last year. was simply injus-
tic0 and abuse.
He (Mr Thurman) had been represented as op-
posing the dissolution Of the democratic party rom
selishness and ambition. He denied that he was
public Lie who will leave 1t with less regret than he
win when the people see 1T to retire him.
FARMERS ORANGES.
In answer to O question what he thought OF the
farmers movement he said tnat his Information
was very limited, but he supposed that the
orig IN 'ae espe Of way G snas Inc ne
protect and advance their own particular
Industry. He thought that the farmers
class were oppressed, and as much as two
years ago. in q speech In the Senate he
had 80 said, and given at considerable length
his reasons for so believing AS to the details OF
the organization OF the oranges he had no Iniorma
fion. He observed that attempts were being made
to turn them to political account and promote the
aspirations Of politicians or m woadSe c poitcians
would not be made mere stepplng-stones 1or am-
bilious politicians.
In reply to question about the salary increase,
he said that as is well known, he had opposed 1t
from frs, to last and had caused his back pay TO
be covered into the Treasury without having
drawn o cent OF it, and being thus covered into the
Treasury he never could draw cent OF 1t.
HE DECLINES BEING CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR.
alluded to the fact that he was named in some
OF the papers as a candidate for Governor. He said
he had noticed that suggestion, and with regret; I;
although he considered none more honorable, and
he hoped that nothing more would be said about