National Republican., 1873-01-09
CREDIT MOBlLIER.
yHE INVESTIGATION coHIInuED,

tn, Rxaminuticu Of John n. Alley Re-
sumed-Doe- Not Knew How Much
Stock wns Disposed Of 10 Congress
mcn-Jim Pl-k and tho Union Pacinc
Railroad.
The credit mobilier investigating committee
resumed liz session yesterday morning, and
riE EXAMINATION oP JOHN q. ALLEY
was continued. Witness testiaed, in reply 70
questions by Judge Poland, tiiat the list Of ulvi
dends exhibited heretofore to the cotfuhtiet IN.
cluded the list OF dividends on the tiT,ooO,cco
contract Of Ames. Dividends on the latter did
not appear on the credit mobiller books. In De
cember, 1897, credit mobliler shares were %
cents Late In tie month they rose TO tl.6O.
Before January they wore up to y, aud later as
nigh as t9.95; did not know of any being higher
than that. Did not know Nelson Knew notnins
peaTed on the credit moblller books. Does not
Know who paid for Nelson's shares; the books
showed they were paid ior BY him: Ihe ,l,si LATER
Of having purchased hundred before. witness
never hal anything 10 do with the books.
BY Judge Merrlcki The statement read by wiz
ness yesterday ItciUre the committee was SUB.
mltted TO Mt, ,McMurtrie, an eminent lawyer Of
New England.
III NJ. McCreery, Did not know how much
credit uiobiller stock was
pisrosKD or no MEunrps oP coxdREss.
senator Wilson npreed 10 take twenty shares ant
Mssf)awes ten sharca, witness took 800 shares
not all Tor himself, however, 2Og Of them be,
lOngcd % him; got them at pari hll not know u
the stock wsi SOLD 20 members Of Congress- Al
par after January. 1888; did not know II any o.
the stock in the name Of Mr.. Ames had beer
sion that Il stood In his name as trustee
q. Can you explain why the transfer was mo-
nader A. do not know.
q. That Is not the usual way TO do such busl
ness II III A. Yes, sir; II Is frequently done
hold hold stock idf otrers IN trust,
wns kpSs nothing z q Mr. nDSSsS ASs IsasGI S,
Amea drew the dividends on the stock whicl
stood In his name a. trustee, The Union facin'
railroad cost es,OooooO or pOoOO 600; only abou
bid not think that the credit mOblllcr stool
| would be Affected by legislation OF Congres
towards the Unlon Pacific railroad. There wa
Pacinc; but honest men eSpectcd 10 Keep ihei
stock and make their money out Jf the earning
OF the road; such was the Intention OF NJ
Ames. Witness had always been In favor of IN
jim TisK AND ruH U. r.R.h
In New York Judge Barnard had granted al
injunction, and Fisk had control OF matters, an
hence the once Of the company was removed
Boston. Fisk threatened To damage the com
pany million Of dollars unless certain none
was paid TO him. Witness refused to pay hlT
any money, and ho (flsk) did damage the road I
the extent Of several millions Of dollars. Olive
Ames Is one Of the most aminbe men Twins
The Secretary OF the Treasury decided that th
me az P ssmS ~
was relieved from its payments; thought the ma
ter was settled properly by Congress; had wi
nesa been member OF Congress Al the tint
owning large stock In the company, don't kno
how he would have voted.
Nh. LILEY NEVER HAD 100000 ~ ms HANDS 7
i INFLUENCE COSdRE4s.
Mr.. McCreery. I am requested 10 ask you
ike. ii' "''" ''' ~" '''"'' VI NV ~
q. Did you or not get or have put into yoy
possession $1,000 In money, 10 be expended
oruer 70 get Congress to modify the ruling
Secretary Boutwell, In regard TO the payment I
interest to the Government A. can say
far as I am concerned, challenge the fullest Il
yestlgation say now I never had dollar
my hands for that purpose, or spent a dollar
induce Congress 10 make any legislation.
y. Were you here urging the passage Of tn
o S Al 5 SS ssre s5 ss Sse nj ss,y Y o me net s
, ileye that MT. Ames had the slightest idea OF 4
nuonclnR the legislation Of Congress by allowlG
his personal friends 20 have the stock.
could have built the road for sO,OOo,O00. son
! Of the ties cost t5 q piece, and they should n
have cost more than nifty cents apiece. II
Government was not robbed, however; on
those men who had stock In the credit mobile
They should have received more money. SO
some shares Of his credit mObllicr stock At $40
had never received any dividends on on that sol
bought Il for Mr.. Bardwell.
BY Mr.. Niblack: The credit mobiller as a ca
: poratlon never made dollar. The only mon
J made was on the Oakes Ames contract OF o.
OoO, 900, which was divided between various pa
Q ties, as already described.
; U. Do you know how much money Mr.. Oak
Ames put into the credit mobilier stock7 A.
N do not; the books show; I do know, Of my ov
Z personal knowledge, that he paid 800 sha
Tor every share Of stock issued TO him.
z. Did you not say yesterday that he put
= fye or six millions Of dOllars7 A. No, sir; 4
u say that the Individual interest of Mr., AInes
the 81, 0oo contract was between ave and 8
y millions OF dollars, and my own Individual
u terest less than half q million dollars.
Adjourned until this morning at 10 o'clock.