Vermont phÅ“nix. [volume] (Brattleboro, Vt.) 1834-1955, 1873-12-19
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Jy'EST.ukss TER F.sR.uRRS
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Subject: L, the spread Of Farmers
Oranges desirable?
George Sahin-I do not appear as the
special cham pion Of the Patrons of Hus-
bandry, but am of the opinion that the Or
der designs TO improve the social intellect
ual and business condition OF the farming
community. l am not one of those who
believe we arc too Independent 10 Join
hands with our neighbors, and ask their as
sistance in regulating the agricultural in
terests of New England. We are hu nan
beings, with human feelings, human hopes,
and human reason, and can take a higher
intellectual rank if We will. The order
has been prospered from the first II now
numbers 1862 oranges, with 610,G50 mem-
bers, all jealous in their good work. The
object Of the Patrons of Husbandry is to
discuss subjects of interest to the farmer,
and 10 unite with others in the purchase of
| Jroduce that must necessarily DO transfer
red from one section of country TO another.
| The object is a good one, and will, l think,
I prove beneficial to farmers through the
States. Unless we exercise the brain more
we canno expect 10 compete with men in
other occupations. Farming is a losing
business so long as the old system is con-
tinued The only way for us to take our
proper standing is to unite and inform our
selves in relation to the true work ng of
our business.
Ii. A. Willard-I am in favor OF all
| A r
the best methods presented 10 improve
their prospects of success in business,
though l have always heen opposed TO Sc
cret societies. Mr.. Sabin dwells upon the
Disadvantages under which farmers have
labored. Some of these can be removed,
Others, think, cannot. When men unite
in secret societies, we universally find that
a few rule the many, and the many are too
often put under obligations TO others, in
stead Of being allowed to act according to
their own better Judgment. / see no rea-
son why farmers need to withhold from the
public any proceedings necessary to their
| success.
w. p. Gage-There are SO many secret
societies in the world and so little good de.
rived from them that we are slow 10 form
a very favorable opinion OF any of them.
1 differ with friend Sabin in the opinion
that we are ruled by superior intelligence.
| II appears 10 me that we are too often rul-
ed by superior impudence l am in
clined TO look upon all secret societies as so
many social evils. Whether the one in
question is 10 dissolve all others is a ques-
ton of doubt, and probably of no incon-
siderable anxiety on the part of many OF
its supporters. We boast with good deal
of professional air, about our superior in
telligence and civilization but whether we
are moro refined in intelligence, or more
refined in manners, Is a question not yet
satisfactorily answered. Many secret soci-
cites have boosted Of their henevolence,
but their results have never been observed
by the public.
n. G.. Pierce-Memhers appear to be at
lacking secret societies but l am of the
opinion that we ou9httobc doing something
for ourselves, rather than to labor to pull
d Town societies of which We know nothing.
I do not think il best to condemn these
oranges until we can find reasonable OBJ
jections. If they work out what they pro-
fess for The benefit Of the farmer, they are
desirable.
w. II. Kimball-If the Oranges are what
they profess to be they are desirable. Ii
they are not uniform in benefit, we want
nothing to do with them. Much Of the dis
cussion has been aimed at secret societies.
If we belonged to Grange, we might for
ward 10 others for corn or other produce
| o,,1 ,I,t at lS.
allowing spectators 10 handle the profits.
II. A. Willard-Huw does Mr.. Kimball
purpose TO bcnfit the New England farmer
engaged in the business of raising corn? II
| am correctly informed, there has already
arisen quarrel among the different Grang-
es. New England and Western farmers
are not situated 10 make their interests
work together.
Sabin-I understand tho quarrel arises
from the fact that members not particular
ly inter ested in the success of farmers
have been admitted.
Plerce-The quarrel p,obaby furnishes
a story as much enlarged as was The first
one we heard about Cuba.
Kimball-Keep politics out Of the Grang-
es and they are all right.
Willard-That is the trouble with most OF
our secret societies
Nathan Fisher-If correctly informed,
New England has been slow to adopt the
plans presented by the Patrons of Hus-
bandry, from the fact that a Grange has
been organized in Boston, composed oil
spectators, who are controlling the Grange
business OF New England.
Adjourned one week, 10 meet with Fen
elon Arnold. Same subject continued.
J.B. MORSE, Sec'y.