New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-01-25

statement; enough 10 pay anu ONtIfuh 1hO ""''N''
@ You say that nothing said to you by Mr. Ames
Of his having sold you bondsi A. No. Sir.
@. Or Of his having received the bondsi A. yes, |
think he the dividend not In cash. That IT was
in bonds and stock
O. DO you remember his having said anything about
having sold the bondsi A. No, Sir supposed he was
holding them; my impression was that the bonds ana
stock would substantially this balance of rs per
cent supposed was giving $500 and interest rom
the time made the contract for the purchase
O. This sum- however you did pay, and You did pay
by draft on the Sergeant Arms A. suppose SO
is correct about that could not re-
member the exact amount stated In private CONVEX
saon, as Mr.. Niblack knows, that Thought NV
about s5so as near as could remember CMr. Nblack
assented 10 the staement)
THE tl,2OO DENIED AGAIN.
Q. The 81 200 Mr.. Ames said he paid you you DO not
admit you say you never received any such sum A.
/ confident never received a check from MI Ames;
certainly check payable TO g. C." or bearer
for 81 900 or for any other SUN have no reeonecuo
the slightest 1t IL utterly lncredible we eouid
had that conversation in regard to returning
the $500 received the 200 the only solution can
think OF reconcile the Misunderstanding between us
point that the initiasiwere put In TO dlsh
| guish his mind between dividends drawn ior
Cakes Ames, Trustee and flor Cakes Ames personally
and that this g. c." check a memorandum for him
self. after had informed him that the thing was on
and that would not buy into lawsuit
O. When do you say that conversation occurredi A.
| IL in the Summer Of 1868.
O. You did not understand that you sold the stock
backi A. understood that gave it up; had no GER
tifcate had proceeds FROM it; l had made pay
ment on 10 and wanted 10 get out Of it.
O. Have you been in the habit OF keeping cash ae-
count yourself OF your Disbursements A. Yes,
have endeavored, since have been Speaker and Wee
President make my salary pay bills, and every
month every two months have been in the habit OF
making statement OF my finances to see how was
getting along.
@ Have you preserved these memoranda as far back
1861 A. No. Sir am sorry to say have not pre-
served them for the last session; may say that
have fallen into the habit of always indorsng every
check l drew; you will examine the checks OF the
sergeant-atArms in the First National Bank. where
| keep my accounts, you will find that although they
are payable bearer. always write my name on them
| IT has been a uniform habit with me.
BY Mr.. Ames-Did not render you statement OF the
price of the Credit Mober stock and interest and give
you statement showing the dividends OF so per cent OF
bonds which covered the price Of your stock 10 IT at
1854 70 showing that balance and did you not give me
check for that balancei A. No, Sir; remember you
told me was TO pay 1884 70 and will not be certain
that you did give that amount on slip OF paper
O. You had more confidence in my statements then
than you have ask you If did not make state
You at that time giving you balance OF 1854 ~
showing you the amount of your $1,000 Credit Mober
stock with interest up to that date giving you credit
on the proceeds per cent in bonds and did you not
give me a draft the SergeantatArms for 1854 u to
make up that balance-do you deny thatf A do deny
that.
MI Ames-I am sorry for IT,
witness-You gave slip of paper with the
amount Of the balance 1884 72 it, and told there
we're some dividends which had not been adjusted.
TESTIMONY OF MR.. AMES RESUMED.
BY Mr.. Colfax-In the examination OF Mr. Amcs,
on the 18th December response 10 the question is
he still the Of that stock" he replied " IT has
never been transferred TO him; do not know whether
be did or not own that stock" what do you by
that There il is you must draw your own infer
ence; understood that you owned 1t, but that you
wanted me to own it.
O. When did I tell you I wanted you to own III A.
cannot remember what you said Gabout it have had
several conversations with you; called twice
on you at Wormeys and on one occasion went down
10 your private room and talked the matter over you
told me you thought II very singular what had said
about the interests that you did not understand IT, and
that you often thought of what had said about the
interest
O. You say that you called at my room and talked the
matter this Winteri A. Yes, Sir
@ At womley'si A. Called once twice at Worm
leys; called on you the night before testified last
and talked the matter over with you TO see If we
could understand each other; wanted TO whether
we could understand each other You said l must tes-
tfy the truth; replied certainly, am going 10 do
that left and suppose you thought from the testi-
mony OF Mr. Crounse, that going TO 10 what
you testified the other day. you got the impression from
what you saw in The Neio York Times that going
to to that and you wanted me to tell the truth
have not said anything of that kind 1t is inference
draw that you thought going TO testify to that
from what Mr.. Crounse told you had said about your
testimony ..t -.' -..-..
O. In your testimony given the 18th December. which
you say was submitted Mr. McMurtrie and reduced to
writing before you it, state am pretty con-
fdent he has paid for it; thought it never
| transferred to him, remember having paid
over to him any dividends' how could you swear to
that IL you knew you had paid me 81 200 divdends A.
to it now having refreshed my memory from
my private memorandum book, and your check the
sergeant-at-Arms proves it; do not think you can
hard enough to get out OF it, stand in the
same position with the rest Of them; all the of them
their checks that is the honest truth; do not
think would be enough to cheat you out OF 81 ooi
@. Yet you testified the 18th December Nor can
| / remember having paid over TO him any dividendp
A. remember 1t now, and have got a voucher for II.
| TESTIMONY FROM THE SERGEANT AT ARMS
ROOM.
GENERAL PRESS DIsPATCHl
| Moses Dillon and Thomas b. Cheney, clerks
in the office the sergeantatArms OF the House,
examined the checks and entries The former, who
cashier OF the Office testified that he would have paid
| check marked W. d. X" or "s C." to Mr.. Ames II
he had handed in; Mr. Ames made deposit Of lOOo
| TO his private account In June, 1868.
Mr. Ames-wil you turn TO the book and see II the
check for $3.50 is charged 10 him A. II is, but see
nothing abe credit of mis- except mileage and
salary; credit to the account Of MI Cofax OF
| N,2oo check.
KELLEY VERSUS AMES.
CAKES ANEs CROSS ExAMINED BY MR.. KELLEY
| TESTIMONY OF MR.. KELLEY, WHO is IN TURN
| CRoss-ExAMINED BY AMEs
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