New-York tribune., 1873-02-26
TIE EVENING DEBATE .
aORE ARGUMENTS FOR AND AGAINST TIE RE-
PORT-WHY GEN. HAWLEY MADE THE
DENIAL FOR SENATOR wILSON-THE LATTER
AUTHORIZED IT.

tiVftE AHGl GlMENlS TUX AND hbAl-NSl 4iiL M
PoRT-wHY GEN. HAwLEY MADE THE
DENIAL FOR SENATOR WILSON-THE LATTER
AUTHORIZED IT.
GENERAL PRESS DlsP4TCHl
WASHINGTON. Feb. 25. - The House re-
assenblod at p H., Mr. Leonard Myers Rep, Pa in
the chair Speaker pro. ten.
Mr.. Wakeman QIep. NJ " argued against the resolu-
tiOn, and declared he not satisfied that the
BODY OF the oIense had been committed
Mr. McCrary Gep, Iowa), one OF The members OF the
specaI committee argument IN support Of the
fes0iution good deal had been said I'm the debate of
gicidnr 20 public camOr He did not regard this as
matter Of popular camor the people were e3cltel be-
cause they saw corruption in high places and IN legls
aive bodies, and the judicial bench, aud they eit
That if corruption got into congress ana uueI99h ~
shape and control legislation their liberties WOuld DC III
Danger. ~. a., co,oo.
Committee had only desired TO discharge Dis duty Iaaul
fully aud according TO his OATH II the o4Sc eo'o ~ nlu
h those men fe wod %9 Io be % an unfortunate
thing for the country II the House SHOULD pass % onoI
Oamedtn the resolutions now under consideration
Mr. Comings Dem, Mo- made an argument against
'"' SPEECH OF GEN. HAwLET.
: Mr: Uawley REP Comm pext addressed tue House
fie said he was inclined to look uS the leppk VI ne
select Committee with respect lie thought IL deserved
The support OF the House, and he should gveit his sup
In regard TO the first resolution he quoted from Oaes
Amess letter McConb and from his testimony to show
Credit Mobilier stock was fully proved. Mr. Ames had
again and again repeated on the witness stand this same
creed oi his saying after an TINS exposition ater a
THIS shame brought on The House II not on nm that ne
bcre ' ana NJ ali times in Whatever he pleases Mr.
Ames had defed the true moral sentiment OF the
s99Stry' She sentiment OF the oH'V''r OF D0
had been said that the House must not yield pop
uar olamOr on tho matter and must not crafty the
ubiquitous demand Il the public press for victim This
was an appeal which touched his sympathy. He ab-
orred ana defod the mob but he respected the people
The House must not therefore, decide TOO soon that his
was mere popular camor merely the voice u hungry
nd sensational UrcSsS
lie admitted tie vigor with which the public clamored
Yor punishment IL admitted that the public eartwas
Stunned pnblc Judgment confused by ncessant
cries, sometimes with reason and sometimes Win none
Eu the other side they were constrained Dy warm
regard for associates and Dy tleT ana respect
They must do as they knew best low Det|eeh 1hese
Opposing Influences The press OF all parties had not
and somefnes in its extravapant, demands, without
there being public sentiment behind them He hoped
that whatever the House would do, the result would
prove 10 The people that Congress master OF the
hituation above all corporations, above all eorrdptng
lie loved some of the whose names were involved
IN this matter on he had NO friend whom & ne Would ~ not
been tamperng with the national honor lApplause on
the floor and galeTies He saluted the Cheyaner Bay
Me-. Cox tDem., n. " reminded Mr. Hawley that
during the last election he bad declared public
meeting that there was no ownership OF Credit Mobier
stock the part Of Senator WILSON, while the evidence
now showed there bad been. He would IKE 10 know
how his indignant friend from Connecticut came to
make that statement. .-,.r.,.,
purpose the question, he would answer u squarely
He had risen the stage in Hartford a1ter half an
bors conversation with Senator Wilson, and he had de-
cared gentleman 10 be- to the pest OF his belief ana
knOwlcdee innocent of any complication whatever, d
rectly indirectly and in the first flush OF his lndgna
ton be had deted the world TO prove tlaI ne was so
compicated II the evidence since showed that he was
mstaken not his fault He had said wnat he be-
lievod.
Mr. Cox-An right
Mr Hawiev stated IN conclusion that he would vote
for the expulsion Oakes Ames and would vote as he
Thought proper Oh the next resolution.
OTHER SPEECHES
MR Blair Iib. Rep, Michl made legal argument
against the resolutions
Mr. Richie Dem. Md described himself as begrt by
doubts on all the pontsiinvOlyed.
Mr. COnger Rep.. Mich), assailed the Committee IT.
self for having outstrpped ITS powers and lost sight Of
tts dutes The Committee he said had EccD instructed
simply 10 ingure whether any member OF the House
bad been bYibed; and most lame and impotent con-
cinsion the Committee had reported that old Oakcs
Ames by some certain process guilty OF an intent
i0 bribe somebody the Committee did not know whom.
The House. at ll;lO O'Clock, adjourned.