The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-08-21

Take the banks for instance II they want to con-
tro. AN election or convention they combine While
the honest toilers are engaged IN their shpyards
| the mills and the cornfelds and neglect the or
the money po%er o. w ne Tast army
once holders VIII virtually have clear Held IN
| REPoRrER-But Is 1t not possible that the tolling
milhons, now tnat they are being educated IN
knowledge that the money power Of the country is
the OF Juggernaut that grnds them to the dust,
| may rise up In their manhood, and ignoring par
ties and Old tme-honored political associations, by
| sweep the mOnopolists out Of power9
Mr. PnLsBURY-l should say 1t Is, and the
farmers movement in the west gives great hope
| in that direction. IL Is indicative OF growing
feeling OF discomfort among the producing classes
and realizing sense OF the grinding effect OF the
there may be- previous to the next election. such
uprising OF these combiped producing interests as
and knock the weiEconstructed machinery Of party
politics into chaos Unless such an uprising takes
place, ~ nay opinion Grant Will be renominated
REpoRTRR-Then you are satisfied that Mr.. Grant
really aspires to a reelection IN 1876
Mr. PILLsBURY-l have no doubt OF 1t. You see
he has been twice elected. The second election he
accepts as an endorsement OF his administration OF
the first term one would think that that ought
to satisfy the most ambitious. But think Tor mo-
ment wat an immense thing II would be to be
chosen third timei And at such period in our
c0untrys history tool The election that year Will
occur on the centennial anniversary our natural
ile There will be gathered the representatives OF
u
witness the grandest event In the history OF repub
llcan government. Great as have been the honors
conferred upon washington would they not pale
before those OF Grant, II that year saw him elected
as PRESIDENT Tor third term OF nation that
WasMngton rounded one hundred years before2
REPORTER-And your deductions Mr.. Pills.
Mr. PILLsBURy-wait moment His election at
such an suspicious moment would be an event that
| would give him power and O prestige that would
lit HIM to throne and place a sceptre in his
| grasp.
REPORTER-Have you an opinion as to his aspira.
tons TO reach that pinnacle OF power-to wear the
Mr.. PIILsBURY-I do not know as have any de-
cided opinion as to his having any such present
purpose or desire, but he is evidently an ambitious
rendered, Or placed within the easy grasp
OF anything in Grants past life to lead me to
suppose he would decline any important position
suit II the opportunity presented itself to him, on
the beginning OF the second century OF our history,
| TO put ON the purple and lit up the sceptre OF
king.
Charles e. Nash. or tho Kcnncbcc
| Journal.
| called few days ago upon Mr.. Charles e. Nash,
| OF the Kennebec Journal the home organ Of
| Speaker Blaine, ana had the following interview
upon the salary grab, third term, and the combina
tions in this State both for Senator and to make
Blaine the successor of President Grant,
REPoRTEE-Mr. Nash, can you give me your Views
upon some political questions now attracting
attention in this State and the nationP
Mr.. NAsH-Certainly, sir.
REPORTER-Well, to commence, has the visit Of
the President here any significance understand
that there Is machinery at work to GUST HaIntn at
the end OF his present term.
Mr.. NAsH-Governor Perham has been three
years an asprant for Hamins place in 1875, but
Hamln will be elected. There is little interest
already taken in the matter, as the respective
friends Of Pernam and Hamn will try to elect men
in their interest 10 the General Assembly that
selects.
Mr.. NAsH-Yes, he is lying low for his oppor-
tunlty.
REroRrER-which means, suppose, a nomina-
Mr.. NAsH-Yes, he aspires to the nomination. II
the election took place next year the chances are
that he would stand wen, but 1t Is so far distant
that there Is plenty OF time for all the opposition
elements to combine against him MY impression
Senatorial contest Blane's sympathies would be
with Hamlin.
REroRrER-what is the feeling Of the republican
party about the salary steal
Mr.: NAsH-There IL only one sentiment: We feel
| Is an honest man. He Is much more 80 than the
average ponrcian, and his friends here feel very
badly that he should get his foot in it. He was
really instructed by the Senate to vote for it, He
| voted in committee against 1t all through but
when ordered to report the result Of the Confer
ton of the report. He could not vote s'no''
without killing the whole appropriation bill, to
which the salary steal was tackled on. You cannot
make these Maine cOuntrymen understand the
Credit M0bilter Jobs but they do understand that
these grabbers voted to take $4,000 cash out OF the
Treasury and they very generally condemn them.
REPORrER-If they condemn their representa-
tfves for the steal have they no WORD OF censure
for the President, whose veto would have pre-
vented 1t?
Mr.. NAsH-The resolutions OF the Republican
Convention were strong. They condemned the
whole thing, but did not parricuarize the Pres-
dent. The people here admire Blaine, but love
Lot-that is the difference between the two men.
REPORTER-Then they have nothing to say
against Grants course, and would vote for him Tor
o third term think your
Mr.. NAsH-There is deep rooted In the minds OF
the people blind confidence that Grant is good
President He has been abused much that 1t
don't hurt him. and he always comes out right end
up from every attack consequently they don't
dwell upon the third term question Indeed 1t Is
not at all discussed In the State except by the
democrats
REPoRrEa-Do you think Grant meditates
second denomination
Mr.. NASH have no doubt but that he is in favor
OF Blaine as his successor, but do not think IL has
been mentioned during this visit. II Blaine was a
candidate have no doubt he would have the sup
port Of the President and all the republicans In this
State. Even democrats would support him.
REPoRTER-WOuld they be in favor of consti-
tutiOnal amendment limiting the time TO one term?
Mr. NAsH-If they had President like Andy
Johnson they would be for it. Now that they have
one that gives general satisfaction they are satis-
fed to let well enough alone.