New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-11-17

10 call him) the whom the House OF Bishops have
chosen TO honor by requiring our candidates Tor orders
to study hs valuable Exposition OF the Thirty-nne
Articles" part of their course Of preparation The
sweeping charge which DR. Drumm brings against these
eminent writers s that they are false TO history and
that they make assertions without proof Your readers
will not fail notice that this very severe censure Is
something OF the kind. In fact II any OF your
readers shall have curiosity enough 70 count on their
fingers the number OF unsupported assertions which TINS
article contains he will be obliged TO touch each digit at
least three times before the enumeratons VIII DO com
plete. in this respect consider the Doctors article
literary curiosity
As TO "Vox Ecelesin," which he tmodestlyl recon-
mends to perusal, sorry that cannot seconu
the proposal once attempted TO read that book my
SELF CHANGING over the first few pages was indeea
somewhat taken with the pleasant How OF WORDS out
was soon obliged TO give up 1t seemed to me 10 DC
the best illustration that had then'met wth OF Iaey
rands definition OF language as an Instrument ior cou
cealIng thoughts fact am sorry to be Obliged 70
eos, II bona the author will me for speaking 90
MAINLY OF his work. that far as argument Is concerned
your readers will find 1t " Vor - d preered nhh.
did not intend 10 detsn you so long with remarks on
that skirmishing with the outposts In whch
your correspondents have INDUCED. designed 20 60
directly up TO what suppose 70 DC tns % y, .n
discussion, the stronghold behind whcn hgh Cnnron
mansnp ~ S a ssronS and Imposing structure
hut think YOU will be surprised To una that ltls enreV
can assure you Epscopalls1 ike other people
this country, think they I'VE nhaer 40 @ 81
OF Joint communion what he has not perfect right 70
do 1t must be because he bss yolaea some Iaw tup
friend who comes TO us amid the refnements of
AsaR 10 hs sSarb now where do We md
that law In the canonsi II is not SHOWN tnat any
are silent on the subject The Articles the Homilies,
and indeed the Offices. afford no ground for such
charge But having ranged through all these IN search
81 snnnort our hgchurch friends fancy that they find
it in the preface TO the ordination service lake tne
PrayerBook and let us examine mat preface TO.
get6er. TIE argument II understand s1ssISi, It, !;
this that preface teaches the inVsnd nTy ,S OF
Church Bishop Cummns by this sSt OF joint conn
nnfathfn to his of office II this be so then let
him be SdCay T the aSs ude Ty
HIM and thus give him an a y hor ne seta
Chriistendom which, with the Law ana the facts
charge There IL a safer and easier method Manafac-
tnre public sentiment against him, destroy his reputa-
n as "a. S0ssse t 6c i ho to hold bot do not
attempt 20 try HIM on any such ehasS as I'M MS
OF the Churchs peace, the unehurching Dogma IL
Ru does the ordnal preface in reality assert the In
validity OF nonEpiscopa orders, or anything ike ~
II seems to me that the Church mas gwen us KEY
introduce thai statement. They these Ii Is evil
dent TO all diligently reading Holy Scripture and
NOT this saving on the very TIRES hold that the state
ment which follows is something IN which al weEln'
formed Christians agreedf But TO make IL some
thing In which wenformed Christians are not agreed
but differ as widely as possible Is TO ssa s
itself What this declaration on which such grave
whether you get out OF it anything, more nor,
than plain statement OF an s,o historical c iae
supposed 10 DO universally agreed namely, that these
orders ministry have existed froin the Apostles
times Now the position here assumed is entirely in-
ofensiye bur the High-Churcbman takes TWO steps
beyond IT, aud having done so. insists that the ground
which tho Church has taken IN this ordinai preface
She simply says that particular regimen has existed
from the Apostles times He goes iurther ana aads,
nrst that no has exsted and secondly that no
other now lawfully exist
nouncenent as that and then has the efontery TO ada
that ais evident 10 all men diligently reading ho
SCRIPTURE" &C. is in high degree Injurious ana Absurd
II the Church 20 make this astounding deelar-
the face of all that she sees AROUND hsp mere a
New-York to-day and elsewhere ana might nave seen
from the beginning, she would become the husnihs-
stock OF Chrisendom ana deserve 20 "a never
theless the strongest Thing which high chgrehman can
heef with simpry SAYING that three orders in the
ministry existed from the Apostles time, aud that
kept up "in this church" thus leaving TO her own
language in the preface to the prayer coos the differ
| churches" as they think best. Let heh churchmen
uni: ate her wise moderation and We shall soon have
peac In all our borders. CATHoucUs
Ntr-Iork, Nov. 7, 1873.
The MAIN,oUEsrIoN TO BE KEPT IN VIEW.
TO the F. ditOr Of The Tri6Hpe.
SIR: Can anybody explain why it is that Mr..
Drumm and Historicus should waste time ink ana
PAPER In discussing whether the doctrines OF the Catholic
Church have or have been sighted and its law dis
REGARDED by individual members OF the Church OF Eng
land Hstorieus shows that certain leaders, both
secular and spiritual in that Church have disregarded
the order OF the .entireS Church OF God, OF which
the English and American Churches are but
branches. MI Drumm on the other hand, proves that
,hnIlo Usa lal ny flya
episcopate OF the Anglican Church What result
can flow from the discussion of these points, further
than the vindcaon of the csms OF these gentlemen 10
shistorical learning IL would puzzle logical mind ~ dis
The only question OF importance is TINS tand
put 1t In italics that these clerical dspuants may keep
il ia yiew) Whether either the anglican or The ADeroan
Church does By fts and Jormuortes recognise as
palid ne orders Of the rarous Protestant sects, such
as Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterans, Congrega
tionalists Unitarians Mormons &c. &c. III the Anglican
Church the American Church recognizes schsmatic
ordinations her ana ormulaes, she has erred
from the Catholic faith set forth in the Sacred Scrip
lures and the decision OF those Councils which are uni
yeTsay recognized as Gcumenical; Tor, after all,
neither Of these national churches Is lnisbe II she
has recognized schismato ana heretical ordination
Gas every believer In one HOY SathOlle ana Apostolic
np nV u me 'S DELIVERED OS the
Hsorcus need not ransaek the records OF the past
TO IND Anglican diylnes VINO 3S,a uhoasnSe error
pathzers would have pcen found strong supporters OF
policy giving ad COMFORT 10 uOcrlne,
heresy ana schism But until Hstoricus shall provo
that the Eaglish Church or the American Church
has by synOdal action given corporate support 10
heresy, it must DO held gutess OF the sins OF
individuals, We do not care to know what
Bishop this or Doctor that OF the Reformation era
Thought OF the spurious orders OF schsmatcs what
this OF that dgntay did in violation of the law of the
Church OF God. What do want to know Is whether
this Church which part Of the body
Christ claims TO be but OF the seets which, by ther
number and dissensiOns Christianity the derison
OF the heather and the byword OF tho unbelieying.
Ne'SYork, S0ys Is, ls'a IHEoLoGicus
CHURCH DIVIDED WITHIN ITSELF.
70 the Fditor Of The Tri6Nne.