New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-04-03


,,v Of the Cleveland and Pittsburgh Railroad
Company; never at any time have received any otner
sum from tho Ere Railway Company mot Mr. watson
AZ the door here and asked him N the books Oh tne Ee
Railway Company contained any such statement nc
was mood enough 10 ride back with 70 the office and
re lacked at the cash book did II "a matter OF curl
ostv ~ IL had contained any such entry. II would have
heen also entry; we did not find that II contained
more than one entry OF $4,000 that Is under the date OF
Feb 25 think; that payment subjected TO discus
zion before tho judiciary Committee when II was en-
eaeed In investigating tho OF Judge Barnard; the
numbers OF the vouchers see are iss and 1870, and
would like TO know In they can be produced.
Mr. Anteas said that the entries In the nutated BOOK
were made Ivy William M. Williamson, who was Vefy
correct b0okkeeper and made bis entries from the
vouchers the bills payable he never had seen any
voucher recorded bearing the name Of Samuel j. Iden
there great many vouchers which we're mace ana
destroyed, to his knowledge, with the original Dhls
there was no doubt that such voucher was paid. -
Mr. Tiden requested That search might DE maze iOr
the vouchers, and then resumed his testimony; Inc
$4,000 paid by check; cannot tell the exact date
but think IL was Feb IS Mr.. Gould testified before
tho Judiciary Committee that mad never done any
services that he had paid me that amount merely as
retainer his observation the Committee caused me 10
address letter TO tho Hon. George w: CASE through
whom the arrangement was made ny Whlcn reserved
tue $4,000; viii read this extract from my iettef 70
Now within your tpovldrs ,h. ID. Zee paid ne ". :,
tie Cleveland aud Pittsburgh Company The arrangement
I S@G 's IL. ".S1 S Of sy as to me- oa
1859 the Cleveland and Pittsburgh Railroad "a. place. ~, pc
Of trust committed or intended By Of Directors NJ
S SSS re.c '' ' ms SSeSe o. Board
be newly constituted iou stated to me that toe oaIJ
Va. tbs, The sIsaye Committee composed Of my's
IN. ca .Sea .seed e. BE- bel: By The Erie Railway COmp
bad % er., win sSe, party .5d vas s sa ss5 ost 9s I -
able to decide ever question Of Ia; Az and .so1 EYER
The arrangement va. submitted to me- 81 q c a.
P,n snd never bad any which imposed respect
declined than once to yoo sOd M not
contribute and the 5000 Thought
s Ss s SoS nsSe id appointed me- and
guessed time made any cond tons about
unsr presume doubt that nothing bot your personal per
to sequere You never communicated 70 me that there
any ,nybo par, tb. should any duty e ne Ere
add .5g Commute Cleveland and I Ps'SSs1
performed the whole Upon every qs'0n % r ~
to sVst,SOdy had duy With Mr. Gould who always behaved
consideration and Difference he got TIE COMPANY 01S ~
Mr. Tlden then read the answer Oh Mr. Cass support
Ing him In his statement OF facts.
TESTIMONY OF W. NJ WILLIAMSON.
william NJ. williamson testified: was connected with
the Erie Railway Company in 1863, 1870 and 1871; the
sheets from the mutated book are In my handwriting;
the entries made from vouchers they were gen
orally made in the succeeding month after the pay
ments; they were handed me by the Auditor; think
the grouping OF the amounts paid was made
in July year; the entry or the vouchers was
made every year. from the vouchers; the book was
taken Tom me, without my knowledge very suddenly
within three months OF the last dates that are entered
probably in June July, 1870; this book Ia known as
containing the amounts paid for legal services; IL was
always in the possession OF Mr. Mo-rsania but where
could get access TO it, presume lit was taken by him
when he wanted any entries he would hand IL to me
suppose was not Intended for the public from the
way IL was kept in the ledger there would only be the
sum total OF this account did not examine the vouoh-
ers to see il they were signed did not rely on the
OF the vouchers in making my entries the Vouch-
ers were kept large tin box IN the safe returned
them to the Auditor after The entries made can
not say positively that two vouchers signed
by Mr. Tiden but certainly would not make the entry
without voucher never made entries OF vouchers
on vouchers often as II appears on these
pages many of these vouchers may have
not like to say that in every there was voucher
there have been 10 per cent OF the entries from
memoranda; | have vouchers IN the name Oh Jay
Gould for legal services for hundreds OF thousands OF
dollars II mad seen voucher signed by M; FISK x OK
Mr.. Gould for Mr. Tlden should have entereult III MI
Mr Watson stated that there was one entry Of $4,000
found the cash book paid to MI Tuden on FeO 20
and none in January
TESTIMONY OF II. 7. ANTEAs.
H. Anteas testified BY comparing this statement Of
the earnings expenses for 1872 with that OF the
cedng year. find that the earnings are less and the ex
penses more think that the party who got up did not
understand what wanted TO make fair statements
1t looks though the entire amount Of income was put
down as earnings, but there drawbacks money 10
be paid to other roads. and foreign accounts, which
should be taken out; 1t would show msstatement OF
facts; would OF books in order to tell
whether these drawbacks not deducted; l
notice contingencies" entered in two places; station
cry, certain legal expenses which belong TO many ac-
counts, would this account; there Is only one ac
count of that it is probably clerical the
and liabilities do not correspond with the profit
aud loss 1t should IN some degree II had
the books before me, L could show whether
these the true results; no one
could show from this statement, whether the
dividend correctly declared the main source or the
earnings freight then passengers. then the mails
coal is properly freight but that business Is so large
separate account kept for II; the earnings III
January. 1871, 4sS IS this Is the gross
amount excluding drawbacks; for 1872, the same mouth,
the statement gives the earnings as s9t6O9S 5O this
the correct amount, excluding drawbacks, then II
grand, glorious year for the Erie Railway; II these
statements correct, there proper basis for
dividend; July last the books were IN arrears many
months; they were always three mouths behind.
Mr. Barlow stated that the items or two accounts or
contingencies would be furnished that the books
open the revision OF the Committee and the Company
would furnish all the information aud facilities which
they might desire for an expert.
A statement submitted showing that the amount
paid legal services legitimate and otherwise during
1868, over sl,SOO.OOO
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