New-York tribune., 1873-04-09

THE SIX SENATOR'S.
Gen Alex 3. Owen testified: AT the interview men,
TONED IN my former testimony with Mr.. butcher at
which Mr. Van vechen present the former gave me
statement of the sum tpad TO Senators and To Repre-
sentatives and gave verbally the names OF those To
whom IL paid. / made memorandum III pencil
but do not now know where 1t is.
Mr. stickney-Gentlemen of~the Committee. IL is for
you TO whether the witness shall be questioned ss
10 these names.
not.
Mr. Carpenter-I speak for another IL is right that
we should demand the 1t ia due TO these men
that the charge should be made openly and they have
chance TO vindicate themselves If innocent.
Mr. wight think the charge should not be allowed
TO rest against the whole body Of the Senate The men
Cen. Diven-I do not think you should blacken the
character OF these men on suGh queS1naOe esnetSe nee
for since was on the stand before nave seen inat
Van Vecten and Barbour both have sworn that they
did not pay money TO Senators.
MIR Babcock-I shall have no objection to having the
question asked and answered when the Information can
come from first sources, and not in roundabout way
Mr.. Carpenter-1 don't know what dlneIence mere
be between list MADE out by MT Dntchef & ana d
gwen the witness and list given verbally by butcher
and written out in his presence.
Mr. Babcock-f Gen Diven were positive In his recol,
lection Of the names given to him by Mr. butcher, l
should think he ought TO be required 20 give them
Mr.. Wght-Thls is the best evidence We can get MI
butcher Is not here, and we can't reach him. am IN
favor OF Cen Owen telling all he knows OF the matter
Gen. Dlyen-I can remember the name OF only one
Mr. Lncoln-I shall object most decidedly to the name
Of one being given unless all are.
Mr. BabcOck-I hope the witness will state all he re-
members
Gen. Diven-I want to preface what say by the
remark that ! don't believe, from evidence which has
been given, that the statements made 10 me were true
the name remember is that OF Senator narrower, a
neghbOr Of mine. and an honest, upright man.
1t here proposed 10 let witness refresh his memory
with the list furnished by Mr. ODoherty. Mr.. Lincoln
offered resolution that all the testimony connecting
senator narrower with any disbursement OF money
IN connection with the Erie Railway be strck'
Ell out OF the report IL was not acted on.
The witness continued can't say that j believed
butcher the time In regard 10 the men, but what no
said made impression my mind as To them; have
not Mr. Dutcher since last testimony. and do
not where he now Is; believed that Commodore
Vanderbilt expended the money and voted that he
should be reimbursed ! have examined the list OF
names in my hand there are six names on IT. recog
nIze only one. beside Mr. Narrower with absolute GER
tauy as among those given me by butcher; Will saw
with the same qualification in the other that the
one recognize is that Of James Wood am not certain
I'm regard 10 either OF the remaining four names have
ne yer seen the lis. made out, and do Mt know what
did with IL.
Tho Committee decided that the witness should not Oo
0ucstioned IN rycard 20 'ha other SeuatOr-