The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-08-21

ncan candidate as any OJner 1 donr see any safer
one they can pick up; but this country win grow
suspicious and kick the whole thing over the first
opportunity. / shouldn't think Grant would like
to try it. He viii have mad enough ofpuhlic honor
by the time his term is out. There u nothing in
the constitution to hinder his running again. but the
matter would be without parallel in our history.
Grant hasn't enough dash In him for q coup detdt.
Anything he may do will be done inleadingstrings.
The party" or rather that portion OF II which
clusters around the Presidential char, VIZ 90
most OF the dirty WORK. / think the curse OF the
country Is the too frequent recurrence felectionA
CoRREsPoNDENT-Don'ty you think that third
accession to power would Increase the corruption
OF the Grant administration
Mr.. swETT-Undoubtedly corruption would grow
a5s fear 1t Is growing apace In monarcnes
turers IL not so great, because there rank s prvf-
legged. Under our system-better, II properly con-
ducted-the facilities for Overthrowing the institu-
tions OF the country are far greater. In my opin-
Ion there Is only one cure for the evil-have
ONE LONG TERM FOR PRESIDENT,
say ten years, and let that end IL. 1t would cora
respOndngly lengthen the term OF service for state
Governors. In this way the frequency and corrup-
ton OF elections would be done away with. I cam
not think OF any other rational remedy. II ever
the country be stirred up In this question OF "Cg-
cussing, Grant can have no chance he will be-
nothing short OF mad II he attempts, even for tho
public opinion OF the United states which can
hardly fail to be against continuance In office.
Hon. Thomas Hoyne
u
democrat OF old standing, and socially. as well as
politically, is man of considerable influence. Hc
has Irish blood in him. and despite his fifty years Is
stately and handsome as some men Of thirty. Mr.,
Hoyne had no hesitation in telling the HERAL1
correspondent what he thought OF "Casarism.n
1t was something like the following, he res
"rhe country cannot last as a republic fol
twenty-five years longer If these Grants are going
to hold the reins Of government. Something must
ho hnUa IN n n nv
bent is looking for Q third term. The HERALn
Is entirely right in the position which 1t has ass
simply dlscouraging The thing must have an
end, SIR. 'Cmsarlsm' must be squeched II the
Republic rs TO be saved. the HERALD Is very wel'
come to my opinion on that subject.
mr.. Bcrna I'd q. Cnulficld, ,
apother lawyer of note, was also approached on
the C@sarism subject. Mr.. Caulfeld entirely coin<
cided with the Views of the HERALD He thought
that the continuance OF Grant In power would be-
tantamount to q subversion OF our democratic
able and he had no doubt that Grant was entirelN
willing to make the precedent. He was surrounded
by set Of interruptions men, who would not hest,
tate at anything to retain themselves In power. !
David A. Gage.
Meeting upon the street the wel-fTed form and
pleasant visage Of Mr.. David A. Gage, the CitIi
Treasurer, who has revolutionized the office, bN
turning over the interest deposits to the strong
box of the city instead Of using 1t to line the
pockets OF his pants withal the HERALD correspond
ent preached the third term topic. Mr.. Cages res
marks upon the subject were brief and pithyJ
'Grant said he, 'is the only available candidate Of
the republican party. Let them drop him, and the
party goes to pieces-a sad prospect for the place.
holders. In order to secure further lease upon
ONCE they may insist upon his taking third
nomination, and-well-wel, between you and me-
and that disinterested party, the bedpOst, Grant,
will destroy the consistency OF his record II he
Doesn't take it."
Joseph X. c. Forest.
Perhaps no citizen OF Illinois has been longer
identified with politics in this State than Joseph
X. c. Forest an adventurous Irish gentleman from
Cork, who left the old country about thirty-hv0
years ago, and has during most OF that period re-
sided in Chicago He knows everybody and is
known by almost everybody He is on intimate
terms with the leading men of the country, and -
at present an associate editor Of the Inter Oce0 n,
the republican morning organ, published in thls
city under the auspices Of Jonathan Young
Scammon, very we'll abused citizen.
Mr.. Forest, who ia quite genial on
being approached by the HERALD correspondent,
opened his mind fully on the question OF Casarsm.
Said he:-"C9sarisrn, or Capitalization, whichever
you may call it, Is a necessity Of the age. We may
as well have Grant as any one else. The govern
ment must stand between
THE MASSES AND THE MONoPOLIES
who are preying upon them. The tendency Of
everything in this Republic now is to centralize-to
become autocratic. witness your railroad COM
panies, your great manufacturing corporations.
your large commercial houses. Have they not in
stituted Il system Of grinding their employees equal
to the practiseS OF the worst despOtism in Europe
or elsewhere9 Very We'll How are We to regulate
this thing BY strong government. The people,
are too strong. Our ideal Republic is going to
pieces and the fragments are, Of necessity, tend
ing toward Casarism. There are three phases Of
human government-the ideal, the intellectual and
the physical or materiastic. France and the Latin
nations were representatives Of the first type.
Where are they nowY Is MacMahon any less Cesar
than was the Third Napoleons Was Thiers with
all his fine theories less so than ettherY tell you
that all civilization must end with the sword.
ENGLAND REPRESENTED THE INTELLECTUAL TYPE
OF LIBERTY.
Under Elizabeth she broke Off from the feudaI
the rest-sprang into life. The philosophers OF our
own time hardly do more than enlarge upon their
S tins IT. sna an
ultimately fail. The cast-iron influence OF Ger
many Is abroad The Germans have built an EN-
thing must bow. They have reduced the science OF
government to brute strength, and while they
keep their swords sharp and their chains strong re-
publicans must give way in Europe.
LOOK FOR A DESPOTIsM HERE
The German element has great power, and the
blood OF the Pilgrims has tendency toward strong
government OF q certain order. because they be-
iieve that there ia safety in It, Now the farmers
advantage OF that General Grant can be elected
President in despite or any mere party opposition.
better yhan more brilliant man would be for the
Office and, no doubt he Will seek for election, and
think he will succeed"
General 1. N. Stiles,
City Attorney, was also interviewed. In reply to
the necessary interrogations he said -"Grant hikes
his place and will hold ON to it to the last.
When he comes to this city he usually goes