The New York herald., 1873-10-04
Will Apollo Hall Support the Demo.
cratic State Ticket?
TIE CRAMKINEss OF CREAnrER.
Influence of the Convention on
Local Nominations.
Tammany in Possession Of the State
Central Committee.

UTICA Oct. 2, 1873.
Now that the smoke OF the Democratic Conven-
ton has cleared away, and as nothing remains OF
what promised few days since to be fierce con-
Migration but the dying embers OF apathetic indif
ference and gloomy forebodng, think that 1t
would be well to look at the inside workings OF the
body over which Horatio Seymour had the honor to
preside. have never witnessed q political con-
vention In which there was less desire among the
leaders to accept nominations from the party IN
convention assembled. saw but two persons in
Utica who during the session, manifested even
the slightest desire to accept an ofice, and these
two gentlemen were Diedrich Willers, VINO wanted
to be Secretary OF State, and Charles II. Haswell,
who was exceedingly anxions to receive the
nomination for State Engineer
Many Of the delegates from New York came up on
the trains from New York on Sunday and Monday
nights, taking sleeping and drawing room cars,
but the rival delegates came Slowly and did not
assemble in any great numbers until Wednesday,
the morning OF the meeting OF the Convention. AS
is usual in such cases, the hotels were ammed up
and rooms were at premium. l was given the
choice OF bed in a room with police justice, an
alderman, an assistant alderman and q gentleman
of literary celebrity, but finally got room with
southern exposure and view OF the scantiy
covered trees.
TAMMANY AT THE COUNCIL FIRE.
No one can go to democratic State convention
without noticing one thing, and that is the
reverence with which the country delegates do the
bidding OF this yet powerful political organization
in every little detail Of business to be transacted
Tammany is yet name to coDiure with, and any
outside delegation boasting OF respectablty and
such other understandable qualities as they may
possess will find that they have thrown away their
car fares and the money which they have paid
for hotel bills. The proof OF the pudding is in
the eating, and Tammany in this Conven-
tion has succeeded In placing seven members
OF the organzation-viz, John Kelly Justice
Ledwith, John Fox, Justice Shandey, John w.
Chanler, Theodore Mierson and Edward L. DON
nelly, brother OF the well known Father Donney,
OF your city-on the state Central Committee.
William Fowler, Of Brooklyn, who was one o. the
most indefahgable of the adherents of Tammany
in the Convention, though he never showed his
hand until the last moment, was also placed on
the State Central Committee, and Samuel j. Tiden,
on motion OF John Kelly, was also made delegate
at large to the committee and subsequently its
chairman, and Joseph Warren, who is looked upon
as giant intellect in the western part OF the State,
was made Its secretary. In all this WORK Tammany
made Its own grogramme and II WAS was carried out out
its demands were complied with in every instance.
ANGUISH OF APOLLO HALL.
necessary explanations OF q matter which was but
dmy understood in New York city just before the
Convention met. had heard great deal OF the
determination OF the Apollo Hall delegates TO be
admitted to the Convention as regular organiza-
ton, and there were many who believed that the
Apollo Hall people were going in with a rush and
flourish OF trumpets. Now, as far as may judge
after closely observing the labors and wirepullngs
OF the Convention. do not believe tnat the Apollo
Hall delegation for one moment thought that they
were to be admitted to the Convention, and
/ also firmly believe thai but a few or
ia
some OF them having informed me that they
did not want to go into the Convention, while
another stated that he hoped that Apollo Hall
would be kicked out bodily, and then they would
have something 70 fight about when they got to
VIZ '''' "a AN ENRAoEp DELEGATE.
"Why," said one leading Apollo man to me- II
think that this thing Is played out. | mean this
thing OF coming up every year from New York to
Utica, or Skaneates or Squeedunk, or even fap-
hank to be admitted to democratic convention
about the city OF New York and care less. Now we
have got about 2s,oO0 votes in New
6oTs cy dsn You blow that we we
you think that ] care who is made Secretary OF
State or who is set mp to be beaten for that Office
us from going down to New York and having our
fight with Tammany out, and we are going to
q good deal worse than they have broken US mere
In Utica. suppose John Kelly is a strong man in
Tammany. Wen, admitting that he Is, we have
just strong man in John Mccool, and II he runs
the Apollo Hall candidate Tor sheriff, tell you
that John Kelly himself will have to be
nominated for Sheriff by Tammany, and then we
will beat him. Look at how unfair IL was TO make
Bebee, OF sullivan or sullivan OF Bebee-I don't
care which 1t ls-temporary chairman. They
flled him up, loaded bin with orders to recognize
no delegate only those who made motion in the
1ammany interest. What was the consequence
Why, there was Fowler, OF BROOKLYN; Flower, Of
Jefferson; Cauldwell, OF Westchester, and Jerry
Mcclure, OF Schuyler, who were all ready
did 'H It soay aanE on1 DesRea xoud ss
cone something, too, as to be made State
Prison Inspector, but he didn't know how TO 90 1t,
and SO he was covered over with clay, and they
buried him up to his neck. 1t was understood in
the State Central Committee Dy Creamer that
Seymour would be temporary chairman, as late as
eleven O'Clock on Tuesday night and that would
have satisfied Apollo Hail. necanse although we do
not think that Horatio Seymour Is the greatest
man In the world, yet we believe that he would
have given US air play on appointment OIL commit
tees. At any rate tney did not dare 10 refuse
recognition as democratic organization. although
they say that we all voted Tor Dix. That Is as
big lie rs the other one, that Apollo Hall is
owned by jimmy U'Brien, and county demo-
crats, are led to believe that we are led
power as o leader in Apollo Han than any one OF
twenty men could name you and not probably as
much as one oil i've or six whom you know by
name. McCool Is the strongest man have 10
be put before the people, and if he does not look
like Grant why the loss OF resemblance VIII not lose
him one democratic vote. Besides, McCool has
plenty or money, and money necessary In all
political fights. particularly In New York. Tam
many dare not say now that we are not democrats
after having been admitted to a democratic State
Convention or TO Its noor, which Is recognition
WHO KILLED KINSELLA2
but TWO incidents OF any note occurred IN
Mr.. Creamer, which was very violent In its nature
entirely out OF order, and very indiscreet as well
as violent IN tone. The other was the incident OF
editor the Brooklvn E1ulP. How this