The true northerner., 1873-12-12

did not say had figured it up and could not
make out 5000; said as near as can esti-
mate it, he had not had half the amount in
money the mortgage called for. Know ii. A.
Nortnrup, do not know he is here as a witness
for the people, have had conversation with
him in Decatur since tina Court sat, have heard
about what he was to testify to, asked the
witness what he was subpoened tor, he did not
tell me, there was nothing said about 1t, L did
not tell hum | knew what he was subpoened
for, that he was to fix the time / came from
the picnic, did not say he was mistaken in the
time returned from the picnic; ON the day
the mortgage was signed a note passed be-
tween them, 1 asked Morris If the signature to
the note was his, he said il was, L witnessed the
note also am in the habit OF witnessing the
amount In Matteson's business and writing 1t
down in the interview with Northrup | did
not say he was to testify to the time Matteson
brought Northrups wife back, did not say
knew the time, but said he must be mistaken
in the exact time, saw her get into the wagon
with Matteson and start off, directly returned
to the picnic ground; the pa, ties in my ofic,
did not contlAue taking testimony till o'clock
they left between 4 and o'clock; before the
acknowledgment, saw no other papers, the note
and mortgage were in Matteson's hands when
| first saw them, know nothing of my own
knowledge about the consideration. Matteson
did not tell me, copied the answer IN chan
cery. Foster drew 1T, / did not consult with
Matteson about it, can't say ever heard any
thing about the consideration; formed my
opinion from the answer, never stated that
had figured up the Sums, but said L made the
estimate from the answer; ; wrote the figures
on the mortgage when took the acknowledg-
mept, don't know whether with the same pen
ana ink or not (shown mortgage l made
those figures on the spot when the mortgage
was acknowledged.
by ATTORNEY FOR THE Defence.
My final return from the picnic was about
sundown, don't know how long was there the
last time; l asked norris II he executed the
mortgage tor the purpose expressed, Used
the word mortgage, asked him il that was his
signature; (shown exhibit 49, that IS the note
that ls my writing, Ii WAS signed when | first
L
made those figures. | always ask the question
as to the amount and tnen make the figures.
dld 1t ON that OCCASION, don't know as it s a
habit OF Matteson's; (shown another instru-
nent,) witnessed that, il Is my signature {;
(exbIbt 81, tue signature to exhibit Ii ls mine,
exhibit 15 | Witnessed that is my signature
exhibit | witnessed and made the figures,
witnessed the exhibition of IA the Smith
children on Morris farm are Is md 90 / think
Jerome was carrying on the farm, Smith told
me he had help on the farm, don't know when
| saw the father afterwards stated to Smith
that Morris might not have had the full
amount Of the mortgage.
BY ATTORNEY FOR PEOPLE.
The fact Of my gong up to the Office from
the picnic t. take the acknowledgment made
more than ordinary impression on me, can't
say how many Acknowledgements | average a
week. can state acknowledgements besides those
IN controversy, take ten or a dozen a week,
for Matteson could remember any other as
distinctly under the same circumstances, | can
not remember OF doing any other business for
Matteson that day, can't tell how long before
Matteson joined me after leaving my Office,
think 20 minutes, don't know where he came
from in doing business for Matteson had the
habit OF noticing the amount and writing 1t
down; did not do it IL business for others /;
because he was dong very much business, he
was shaving notes and loaning money at very
lAf 9 per cent. Know it was very large by
Z raj reputation; by very large l mean over
az per cent. Can't state that I wrote the
amount on anv other mortgages than in this
case; the mortgages in this case we're numer-
GUS enough to make 1t habit can't mention
any 9th, L instance when / did it, in exhibit ID
the iguoe are Mr. Fosters.
BY DEFENDANTS.
In witnessing the papers for Matteson | did
not invariably add the figures, I think there
are other Instances when | did it, besides the
Morris papers.
BY THE PEOPLE.
1 cannot state positively a single instance
beside the Morris papers.
(ro be continued