The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-08-21

TONS ofice-hoiders, and the Ike do that Tor the
people, and the nominations at conventions are
''The history OF the last ten years does not show
that The people have had voice in that matter,
on his first term was certainly not the choice Of
the politicians; he was the choice OF the people, in
Gpposision 70 the candidate Of the politicians.
ticians; he was the candidate OF the people,"
"Do not you think that the IS, 600 office holders
And do not you think that they do exercise sui.
ncient control to place In power whom they
81 do not The people have exercised their
power can exercise IT, and VIII exercise 1t again,
| eral Grant for third term"
II was going to say, Doctor, great is your faith |;
put WIN not say that, though do admire your
the power OF the people and their disposition to
exercise II, you have no fear that 'Casarism' is
hkely TO develop itself in this country"
None whatever, sir; the people, am sure, will
check that long before 1t becomes dangerous. They
therefore, even II he were disposed to abuse the
| powers OF third term, he win not have the
chance to do 1t. My mind Ia quite made up about
| Doctor Crooks intimated so clearly that those
| were his views and that ne had nothing more to
say that the reporter lett, satisfied that the Doctor
had delivered himself OF his true convictions
DIR. Curry, OF the sChrtstian Advocate"
DR.. Curry, the editor of the Christian Advocate.
the ofcial organ Of the Methodists, was busily at
Methodist Building in Broadway when reporter
OF the HERALD called upon him. After short gen.
eral conversation with the Doctor the reporter
asked him what he thought about Grants third
term and what the HERALD had designated Caesar.
ism.n
SWELL" answered DR.. Curry al have been rather
amused and interested with the course of the
HERALD in reference to that question. 1 thought
at first 1T was good piece OF journalistic enter
PRISE and that in dull time for news the HERALD
had been wise In its generation. Lately, however,
thought there was more in 1t than that, and
begin to think that the HERALD has precipitated
the consideration OF what might have been obliged
to be thought about and decided about somewhat
later.
Then you think Grants third term o proba-
bility Doctor r'
"No This Is what think and II am going to
be interviewed should Like to be represented as
saying what do say. I don't mean to say that you
gentlemen ever do make men say what they don's
say, but you have such an immense talent for ex.
panslon, Tor ampliying for identifying for dress
ing up, and such exhaustless resources for literary
embellishments, that when some OF US come out OF
your hands before the public we are 80 battered by
the presentation that we accept the offspring,
though we may have very grave doubts as to the
sort. / am not politician. i am Methodist
minister and an editor. am not OF the republican
party, except as one who stands outside OF it and
watches it, Therefore, what do say want it to
be fully understood as being what did say"
ySH G Tona apa 10
put It in that form for you If you wish"
mo, It is scarcely worth while doing that. !
was going to write about the subject myself, but
the HERALD seems TO be covering the ground
well that think shall defer II. However, let me
shall be through First OF all, then do not believe
that General Grant has expressed any desire or is
for third term Second, 1 don't think that the
people, except those who are moved by personal
purposes, would be glad to see Grant elected for
third term Third, feel certain that the republican
in good men, in eligible men for the Presidency, as
date. There are men, number OF them, who
are thoroughly fitted for for the Presidency
eral Grant second time. Voted for
MIN. 1t has been the customary course,
and was wise certainly In that instance. Fourth,
Grant cannot AFFORD, in view OF the historical
reputation he has obtained, to allow himself to be
present and indeed it it is all that it is needial to
and particular men to iii the Presidency, but we
have three years before US, and none OF can say
what changes may occur, and these changes may
recast and modify our present views.
work, and as the reporter was passing into the he
doorway the Doctors parting words were, 'N0w,
don't make that too long-keep 1t down."
Sidney Howard Gay, OF the Evening
Post.
Mr.. s. II. Gay was found intently absorbed in the
preparation Of the editorial matter for the days
Post but upon the reporters declaring bis mission
he was cordially received and asked to sit down.
Mr.. Gay began by saying that he did not wish it to
be understood that he spoke as the chief Of the
Evening Post, as he was only acting in that capa-
city in the absence of Mr.. Bryant and Mr.. Goodwin.
at is only possible for General Grant to expect
20 acbt tI.o hano Mr. 10 tsup dpr
the commotion Of some great popular movement.
What that will be or what it could be is not worth
while discussing. am not sure, furthermore, that
General Grant has the keenness OF perception to
great opportunity. He Is neither an intel
lectual man nor statesman"
OFFICIAL PATRONAGE INADEQUATE TO THE TASK.
"Do you believe that General Grants friends are
powerful enough to secure his electionT asked the
mo l certainly do not. / have no hesitation in
SAYING that he would have been defeated the last
election had the opposition been properly man.
aged. Ihave not lost all faith in tue hard, common
sense of the people. do not think that they would
seriously tolerate any effort to renOminate or re-
elect the President again. Charles Francis Adams
as the nominee Of the Cincinnati Convention would
have defeated Grant to certainty. AS for the
leaders OF the republican party advocating the
third-term principle, 1 do not believe they viii
sacrifice the ambitious hopes which several OF them
have already formed for the office. They
tired Of having the dispensing of the offices second
hand. The otice-holders will not hold together In
such movement. 1t will be too unpopular to
draw even all the present incumbents INTO it."
GRANT WILL NOT TAKE 1T.
"Do you believe that General Grant would accept
a renominatonfv asked the reporter.
81 have no fear, as I said, OF the third term
trouble. do not believe that General Grant cares
Tor 1t. His reelection was to be regarded as an
endorsement OF his first term / cannot see that
reelection would give any further endorsement
There never has been a case Of a President serving
more than eight years; and General Grant l. lar
from being the dpomatist or the statesman to
make such q thing possible now."
Ex-Speaker Galusha A. Grow ON the
Subject.
The HERALD reporter called upon ex-Speaker
Galusha A. Grow, at the Fifth Avenue HOTEL to see
him upon the momentous issue of the day. On the
card being sent to his room, Mr.. Grow invited the
reporter up. He was extended on his bed In room
No. 2o3, and seemed as If the world was going very
well with him, and he doing very well In the world.