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The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-15
PERSONAL INTELLIGENCE.
Rschcfort's wife is convalescing.

Rschcforts wife Is convalescing.
charles X. Tuckerman, our late Minister to
Athens Is in London.
yakoob is the name of the Khan Of Kashgar.
pronaby a descendant OF one OF the 'qost tribes "
Israel"
Eugene has sent rather frigid reply to the let
ter of coincidence from Marshal and Madame Mac
Mahon.
Dr. Guthrie has so far recovered that he lately
went from Edinburgh to London and is to proceed
TO 81. Leonard's-0n-Sea.
out Of the %, 701, 900 population OF England ana
Wales more than 100000 the parish registers
as subjects Of poor law relief
The Lord Mayor Of London will, on the 18th Of
March, entertain the Mayors of all England and
wales at the Mansion House.
NJ THEIRS assumes the entire responsibility OF tho
expulsion of Prince Napoleon from France and
saws he may have to care for those persons ami
journals that dub the ex-Prince Imperial Napoleon
".
Captain sheldon Sturgeon, Sixth United Ststes
cavalry is under surgical treatment at the Presby-
terrain Hospital, corner OF Madison avenue and
SEVENTEEN street.
FIVE hundred and thirty women in the United
states are doctors, twenty-four are dentists five
lawyers and sixty-eight preachers. Which would q
man in his senses run fastest fromS
"John p Randolph" Of Cedar street. is wanted
by General Butler, the Chairman or the Circuit Mo-
biier Investigating Committee, Washington. He
is supposed to be one Of the Randolphs of Roam
hoax.
The Count dc Paris is now reported 10 think the
Count dc Chambord only q pretender and to say
that the monarchy can only be restored by popular
election, and then must be constitutional not alb
solute.
Admiral Pop0ff, Of the Russian Navy, "a inspccts
The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-15
TRIPLE SHEET.
New York, Saturday, Feb. IS, 1873.
THE NEWS OF YESTERDAY
To-Day's Contents Of the
Herald.

~THE WAR IN CUBAi THE HERALD COR.
RESPONDENT AMONG THE SPANISH
TROOPSr - EDITORIAL LEADER SIXTH
PAGE
BATTLING FOR LIBERTY! THE ACTUAL STATUS
In OvER-OPPRESSED CUBAi THE MARCH
OF THE HERALD COMMISSIONER WITH
THE sPANIARDSl THAT MYSTERIOUS
OOUNTERMARCH ! WELCOMED AND
PETrEDl SHORT RATIONsi THE DEADLY
CLIMATEl FRIGHTFUL LOsSES-FogRrH
PAGE
Z PERTURBED REPUBLIC THE SPANISH SHIP
OF STATE RIGHTING ITSELF I CORTES
REPLY TO AMADEUS AIMING AGAINST
CARLlSM PEACEFUL REVOLUTION so
FAR-SBvENTH PAGE.
a FATHER ARRESTED ON THE CHARGE OF OUT.
RAGING TWO OF HIS OWN DAUGHTERS
AND MAKING DASTARDLY ATTEMPT ON
TmRD-CUBAN NEwS-SEvENrH PAGE.
THE WAYS AND MEANS OF CORRUPTIONl THE
GENEVA AWARD UP IN THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES RUSHING MEASURES
THROUGH CONGRESS- WASHINGTON
NEWS-THIRD PAGE
POMEROY's sHAMEl THE ALICE CATION PROS.
TITUTIONl YORK'S EFFORTS TO REMOVE
THE KANSAS LAND OBJECT THOSE
IRRITATING AFFIDAvTTSi THE USE MADE
OF THEM BY "vIRTUOUS YORK;" WHO Is
THAT "YOUNG MAN gr-EIGHTH PAGE.
THE NTOLERABLE ITCHING OF AMES MO-
BILIER TUNICSl THE HONORABLE" Mr.
PATTERSON THINKS 1T DID NOT EXTEND
TO HIS PALMS! HARLAN FORCED TO TOE
THE MARK HIS DETEsTABLY BAD MEM
ORYi ARE THERE NO 'MEMs." TO HELP
Ti-EIGHTH PAGE
ANXIETY ABOUT THE CHARTER CHANGES
THE MUNICIPAL APPOINTMENT BONE OF
CONTENTION REDUCED CANAL TOLLS
LEGISLATIVE BUSNESS-TENTH PAGE
ExECRABLY CORRUPT THE CONGRESS OF THE
UNITED STATES BECOMING STENCIL IN
THE NATIONAL NOSTRILS! ANOTHER
CHAPTER EVEN WORSE THAN THE LAST
THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE
DRAGGED IN-THIRD PAGE.
PREPARING FOR DANGERS LIKELY TO ARISEr
IN UTAH. THE PRESIDENTS MESSAGE
TO CONGRESS- ON THE MORMON
TROUBLEsl OPEN DEFIANCE NOT TO BE
PERMITTED-THIRD PAGE.
EUROPEAN CABLE NEws-LATE TELEGRAMS-
SEVENTH PAGE
GAFFNEY "HUNG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD,
DEAD, DEADm HIS CRIME AND FEIGNED
INSANITY THE FINAL SCENES-FIFrH
PAGE.
UHE MUTUAL LIFE INSURANCE TROUBLESl
MR.. MCULLOH SENDS MORE HOT SHOT
INTO THE WINSTON CAMP-NNrH PAGE.
eTOKEs MUST SATISFY THE LAW JUDGE
BOARDMAN's ADVERSE DECISION ON THE
BILL OF EXCEPTIONS JUDGE DAVIS
POSSIBLE ACTION HOW THE DOOMED
MAN RECEIVED THE NEws-FIFTH PAGE.
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TIE SPANISH REPUBLIc.-The Spanish Re-
public is getting fairly under way The
National Assembly adopted yesterday the re-
ply to the abdication address of the ex-King,
and, indulging in sort OF jocular sarcasm,
inform Amadeus that when the 'conspiracies
and obstacles of which he complained
have been overcome, while they will
not be able to offer him q throne, they will
bender him higher honor-the citizenship OF
D free and independent country. The venera-
BILE Espartero and other prominent citizens
have given in their adhesion to the Republic,
Che banks have rendered the new govern
ment financial aid, and all things look
lair and encouraging Let us hope that
the leaders of the new Republic will prove
worthy of the great duty assigned to them.
Ind that prudence patriotism and the true
spirit Of freedom will influence and guide their
acts.
The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-15

GONG CHEAP-The government steamer
Vanderbilt was offered for sale at Mares
Island Navy Yard (San Francisco) few days
Ago, and the highest bid for her (dismantled
of her fnery) was fifty-six thousand dollars.
The vessel cost Commodore Vanderbilt lust
before the war some three million dollars, and
when she was presented as q free Offering to
The government at q critical period the act
WAS considered one of great munihcence, as it
Undoubtedly was on the part of the donor.
ks specimen of naval architecture she was q
wonder; but for commercial purposes, or as Q
gar vessel. she was not o. success
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lice Commissioners and their employees for this great
NIT. GEO. w. BLUNT.
FsBRUARY H. 1874 t
If the denial put forward by Captain Thorne
be of the character imputed to it by Mr..
Blunt the matter takes very grave form.
Our correspondents observations on the mat
ter are distinct accusation which must put
the Street Cleaning Board on the defensive.
Mr.. Blunt assumes that Captain Thornes de-
NAL OF the dumping in the harbor is untrue.
Ii 1t should prove SO the Board have rendered
themselves liable to prosecution under q law
OF this State, which expressly says:-
SECTION alt shall not be lawful for any person
10 throw any ballast. rubbish, ashes or cinders from
any vesse or lighter. or from any pier or buikhead
INTO the waters Of the docks, slips harbOr OF the
The penalty in such cases is sfive dollars
and the further sum of two dollars for each
and every cubic yard of material SO thrown
out" The penalties, if our correspondence
accusations are sustained, would amount to an
immense sum; and if they are so sustained it
will place Captain Thorne in a very unpleas-
ant predicament.
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street Cleaning and Illegal Dumping.

street Cleaning and Illegal Dumping.
Among the many startling charges brought
by-our correspondent in yesterdays issue of
the HERALD against the Street Cleaning Board
that which accuses them and their Superin-
tendent of dumping the refuse of the streets
into New York harbor is well worth investiga-
ton. The following communication from
Pilot Commissioner Blunt shows curious
state of affairs =
To THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD
read with much interest ana indlgnation inc
statement In your paper OF veteran Strect
Cleaner OF the wilful violation OF law and great
damage to the harb0r by the Poilce Comssonc, =,
had reason to believe that these wrongs were
being committed, and the outdoor agent OF the
Board OF Pilot Commissioners saw captain Ihorne,
who explicitly denied that any SUCH Things were
practised. or course Captain Thorne told an I'M
truth. Every step viii be taken W punish Jne 10
The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-15

The VIENNA INDUSTRIAL EXHIBITION PALACE
is completed, and goods are being received in
the building. France, Egypt and Turkey ap-
pear to have gone ahead with great energy,
and they now make very promising COM
mencement. The section which has been set
apart for the United States is not yet in shape.
but it will no doubt come out oil right in the
anil
The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-15
The PresIdents Message ON Utah.

Yesterday President Grant sent a message
to Congress urging early legislation by that
body in relation to the regulation Of the ju-
dietary in the Mormon Territory. The rea-
sons he advances for this change Of the law as
it at present exists are strong and doubtless
justify the immediate consideration of our
national Legislators. That the Mormon
hierarchy, through their Territorial Legisla-
ture, should endeavor to impede the course Of
justice when it trenched upon the institutions
they have labored to consolidate is not merely
consequence to be expected, but one actually
experienced Owing to the conflict of laws
between the United States and the Territory,
it has been found hitherto impossible to
punish Mormon for any offence which he
NAV have committed in what the authorities
deemed the interest of their Church. The
grasp of man like Brigham Young upon the
fanaticisms of his followers is enough to con-
secrate such an offender. The crime of muir
der, even, was dressed in fanatics phrase
which yelled its criminality in garb of
heroism. When man proved obnoxious
he was made to fit himself for Heaven
by ''blood atonement' that is, by being
assassinated-and then he was said to
have persisted in the flesh The legal
difficulties lie, first in the fact that the jurors
ore appointed under Territorial law, and
hence the Mormons can pack any jury TO save
friend. They have the matter so much in
their hands that they can cause man TO be
acquitted no matter what the evidence or the
crime. The other is an assumption by the
Territorial Probate Court Of the right to grant
writs of habeas corpus for the release Of pris-
oners held under the laws Of the United
States. If remedying these things, as the
President suggests, would clearly open the
way to the abolition of polygamy it would be
indeed good thing; but it must be remem-
bered that these legal enactments will only
make the conviction of criminals possible, and
not touch directly such an abuse as polygamy.
Congress should, however, do something We
cannot afford to allow anything approaching
to Mormon war to break forth Such wal
could only have one ending namely, the utter
desolation of Utah and the destruction OF
much valuable life-even Mormon life In
pity to the poor fanatics who might shoulder
q musket at the call of Brigham Young, We
would save them from such fate, and Con.
gress in treating the matter, while making
law invincible in Utah, should avoid any
necessity ot an appeal 10 arms
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RAILWAY INTERESTS IN GERMANx-A royal
German message, addressed to the Prussian
Chamber of Deputies yesterday, intimatss
pretty plainly the existence Of railway con-
cession ring somewhere in the neighborhood
of the imperial palace. Emperor William
wants to know all about it. His Majesty has
ordered an inquiry as to matters Of fact. This
makes it certain that if anything is wrong the
ring will be soon in as demoralized condition
as would be a barrel of lager without hoops
under a fierv-hot sunshine.
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with boiled turnips and mounted ON monster
pumpkins ready to NOW down the terrible
man. 1t is true that the Spaniard concludes
for the present with kissing the hands OF
Secretary Fish; but we should not be deceived
by this, for what deed of horror is too great for
His Majesty that may be, DON Jose Ferrer de
Couto, Knight of the Order of Santiago, Com
mander of the Royal American Order Of Isabel
Ia Cat6lica, Knight of the Order of Charles
Ill, Honorary Member of the Mexican Geo
graphical and Statistical Society, Fellow Of
the Commission Of the History of Spanish
Infantry, of the Royal Academy Of Arche-
ology of Madrid and High Cockalorum of
Spanish chivalry generally? What, indeeds
The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-15
ADJUSTMENTS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

UNION SQUARE THEATRE, Union square, between
roadway and Fourth av.-OsE HUNDRED YEARs ON.
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WAILACK's THEATRE. Broadway and Thirteenth
otreet-DAvID GARRIcx. Matinee.
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BOOTHS THEATRE Twenty third street corner Six IN
avenuc.-TIcKxT or LEAVE MAN Matinee at 2
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THEATRE COMIoUE, No. 5l4 Broadway.-THE PIANO.
nAnA CHICAGO Matinee at az.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

OF the excitement concerning the great
race. tae Eureka Sentinel, Of Friday.
says: As per announcement, there was
poolsellipg at the Palace saloon last
night. The building was crowded Tor
several hours with an interested throng,
and the bidding was very lively. Men
who never gamble in mining stocks or
ANYTHING else, seemed willing. even anx-
ious, to hazard few dollars on the re-
suit of the great race. Joe Crabb ON,
cia.ed as salesman, and Col. Sam Bell
and Sturgess did the clerking and kept
track of the coin. We understand that
pools were sold to the amount Of nearly
one thousand dollars. Thad. Stevens
was the favorite, and True Blue second
choice. There was but little difference
in the pools. however, between True
Blue and Joe Daniels. Hubbard and
Mamie Hall were sold together, usually
bringing but three or four dollars in
pools of twenty-five and thirty dollars:
The general average probably amounted
to a very little less than two to one ON
the whole field against Thad. Stevens.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

HEAVY FINE FOR GANINe.-A few days
ago Henry Simpson was arraigned for
sentence before the Police Court at San
Francisco, havingbsen convicted Of con-
Quoting faro game. On the first
charge be was lined $1,000, with the al
tentative of one years imprisonment; on
the second charge 5000 fine or 800 days
Imprisonment. An attempt was made
TO review the case on hdbeaS corpus, but
with what result we cannot say.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

MARRIAGE BETWEEN WHITES AND
BLAcKs.-The Louisville Courier-J ournal
mentions the case of the negro in Indi-
ana who was sent to the State Prison for
one year, and fined $1,000 for the crime
Of intermarryins with white woman
1t appears that on the I'd day OF May,
1873, negro named Nicholas Kiger,
living in Clark county, Ind, married a
white woman OF the same county and
State, named Mary Williams. The Su-
preme Court of the State of Indiana de-
cided, last Winter, that the Fourteenth
Amendment cannot be constructed to
imply or grant the right of intermar-
riags Of negroes with whites. Kiger was
accordingly indicted for the crime of in.
termarrying with white woman, and
was tried for the offense on the 7th of
last August, before the Hon. Cyrus L.
Durham, Judge Of the Clark County
Criminal Circuit Court, at Charlestown.
The defendant pleaded guilty to the
charge in the indictment, and the Court
has assessed his punishment at one
years confinement in the State Prison
and fine Of 81 900.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16


JOHN c. LYNCH has just received a lot
of fine foreign wines-Private Cuvee,
Green Seal, Charles Heidseick, and other
fine brands Of champagne; also, superb
or case-Chateau Ia Frauds, Chateau la
Rose, etc., and choice brands of cigars.
]. c. L. will receive in q few days 200
packages Of the finest liquors and case
goods ever brought to Phoebe. nl5.1w
Go TO H. Krause's Photograph Gallery
on Lacour street, over the New York
Bakery, for your A No. ] pictures.
Prices reduced to one-half. Satisfaction
guaranteed. Carries dc Visite $4.0O per
dozen. Ferrotypes for soc apiece. ni-tf
A NEW circulating library, imported CT
gars, tobacco, stationery and CONNECTION
cry at J. Levin 4 Co.'S, opposite Hamil-
tons saloon. Main street.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

The Visalia Times OF the 9Th says !:
Near Skaggs' Ferry, in this county. are
encamped large rancheria of Tulare
Indians. Three or four of their number
became sick, and the services of their
"big medicine man" were called into
requisition, but proved unavailing. Two
or three squaw5 and children died under
his treatment. 50 . grand council was
called, and huge powwow had in con.
sideration Of the subject. The conclu.
sion reached was that he had violated
his high trust and must die. He was
accordingly led out short distance and
killed.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16
Foreign News.

Foreign News.
Farther Complications in France-A
Spanish Organ ON the virginius
Affair.
PARIS, Nov. 13.-Ths situation OF Yer.
sailles is again becoming complicated.
The compromise between the Right and
the Left threatens to fall through. The
Government and the Right have decided
to insist on the unconditional prolonga-
ton of McMahon's term for ten years.
MADRID, Nov. 13.-The impartial has
long articles to-day on the execution at
Santiago. 1t endeavors to show that it
is not possible forthe United States Gov
eminent to make any demands on Spain
in consequence Of these proceedings, and
argues that the majority of the American
people want to see the Spanish Republic
united and successful. President Grant
and his advisers know this, and are not
likely to imperil the hopes Of Republi-
canism in Spain by precipitating the
complication abroad, when the internal
troubles demand all her strength.
HAVANA, Evening, Nov. 1A.-El Diaris,
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16
DAILY RECORD
SUNDAY. NOVEMBER Io. 1873.

The Business ofsce Of the PIocHE DAILY
RECORD will hereafter be in the ONCE OF II. r.
Breskey, at Michsel's cigar store. Main street.
opposite Meadow Valley.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

IT 10 said that q large number of Ital.
ian emigrants of ths farming class will
como 70 this country next year.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16
Notice to TAXPAYERS.

STATE AND COUNTY TAXES WIFI nm
y delinquent on the ne
Third Monday Of November.
JOHN ROEDER.
County Treasurer and ex.ofacio Tar Receive,
n%2w
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

season-occupied by people of every
class and condition, pedestrians in
groups and alone, as merry crowd as
has ever passed out of the city. The
stylish equipages, largely occupied by
the fair, but fast, representatives of soci-
ETY., rolled along with the customary re-
gard for the rights Of pedestrians, and
occasionally received salutations strik-
ingly expressive, but in the main the be-
havior Of the crowd was confined to gen.
teel propriety. The day was peculiarly
Californian.
By - o'clock the grand rush had fair
ly set in, and dense column-horse,
foot and carriages-resembling the march
of q great army, streamed steadily over
the hill and down the avenue leading to
tho Park. Every available means OF
conveyance appeared to have been
brought into service, from the imposing
four-horse drag to the rickety cart Of the
vegetable peddler. Thousands came by
the trains Of the San Jose Railroad, and
filled the intervening distance of over o
mile. In tho Park the scene was fairly
suggestive of the day on the Derby
Downs. Establishments crowded to.
gether and occupied by the gay votaries
Of fashion, who discussed the probabil.
tiles of the approaching race with ANNA
ton, and the contents OF their hampers
with equal earnestness. The day and
scene were provocative Of hilarious
spirit and vigorous appetites as we'll
The indispensable card sharp and his
confreres were present in force, and had
their apparatus for genteel swindling ar
ranged on every side where the crowd
did most prsdominats, both within and
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

IT is stated as fact that Ohio's vote
at the last election was u, 900 less than
in 1872. and that Allen received minor
ity OF 10000, and had $3.50 votes less
than the Democratic candidate McCook
who was beaten at that time.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

PAT. KINNEY, formerly an engineer on
the Virginia and Truckee Railroad be.
tween Virginia and Carson, was shot
through the stomach and MORALLY
wounded by negro, whom he was trying
to prevent from engaging in shooting
ARRAY with some roughs, at Ogden, Utah,
on Saturday last.
Pioche daily record. [volume] (Pioche, Nev.) 1872-1876, 1873-11-16

A WASHINGTON dispatch to the Chicago
Inter. Ocean announces that the head of
Captain Jack has arrived there and is on
exhibition at the Smithsonian Institute.
The Inter Ocean comments severely on
the barbarity displayed in such pro-
ceeding, and adds that, 'lifeless as it is,
the head Of the savage chief has more
sense in it than is contained in the skulls
Of those who sent it to Washington"
Dodgeville chronicle. [volume] (Dodgeville, Wis.) 1862-current, 1873-03-21
Experiments up0r the Farm.

THE farmer has abundant opportuni-
ties for acquiring knowledge of his
business through experiments, and he
should not fail to use them to the utmost
extent. We do not mean by this that a
man should be continually changing pro-
ducts or systems of culture, but that he
shall keep himself sufficiently unbiased
to adopt new things and plans which are
likely to be of practical utility.
All men are more or less prone to fol-
low the beaten path made by their pre-
decessors, and few have the courage to
diverge from these lines and strike out
for themselves. We often forget that
general rules in agriculture admit ofmany
exceptions, and it is only those of a
specific character that admit of specific
application. For instance, a deep soil is
conceded to be more valuable than a
shallow one; hence the general rule that
deep culture should be practiced in order
to produce great results; still there are
many cases where man would no doubt
be the loser by adopting such system.
It is only through carefully conducted ex-
periments that we can learn what is best
either in systems of culture or the crops
raised. Different soils require differ
ent treatment; climate and exposure
mode of culture, as we'll as in the
kinds of crops cultivated, and these are
the things that the intelligent farmer
must learn if he would be successful. In
some portions of the country wheat sown
with a drill is not so liable to be injured
in winter as when sown broadcast, while
in others the difference between the two
systems is scarcely, if at all, perceptible.
A few experiments VII show the farmer
which is the best, and then he can choose
for himself without regard to what others
may say. But if he never tines but one
system he will not know whether tits the
best or not Mulching winter wheat is
also highly recommended by those who
have tried it in regions where there is
little snow in winter, and theoretically IL
seems to be the one thing needful in all
regions where the young grain is liable to
be exposed to cold winds in winter, as it is
in most prairie countries; but expert
ments would soon settle the question
definitely. A few rods square or acres
might be covered for few years in sue
cession, and by noticing the results the
farmer could determine whether it would
nav him to adopt the system upon a
larger scale. That which is best IN one
locality may be the worst in another, and
this is one great argument in favor OF
local personal experiments.
1t may be more profitable to the West
ern farmer to feed his hogs and cattle
corn on the ear than to shell and grind
it, while the Eastern farmer would find
the exact reverse of this the most econom-
ical. for practice must vary to accord
with circumstances. Among stocks we
find breeds that are better adapted TO one
locality than to another, but how IS man
to ascertain this fact except through ex-
pariments? If man desires to sell beet,
DC would select quite q different breed Of