New-York tribune., 1873-01-08

Committee on The ground that there was Democrat
or Greeley who had been approached. as that was
the theory upon which Mr.. blane's resolution was
The Committee then voted TO hold their investigation
in secret. and Mr. Poland being the Committee on the
Revision OF the Laws which has large and c0nyenienI
room asked psrmission o. the Chairman OF that Com
mittee Butler TO hold the investigation in that ROOM
and also asked for the use o. the Cierk or ms
10 that and the cir went on duty. This may account
for all the newspaper talk about Buffers snofshahi
writer being in the Committeeman. Butler declares
that he mas never asked his shOrthand writer what oc
Cured the Committee nor has nee toid NY NM rs @ e
has other OF gaining such inothidoh as ne uo
sires, beside corruptng his suoordlna.es.
TESTIMONY OF McohB.
Mr. McComb was called before tAe committee ana pro
duced Cakes Ames letters. He said he was an unWl-
ling witness lie did not want anything done about
this that he wanted to try his lawsuit IN bis own way
and not before Congress they could not decide 1t for
him brt no was tnere TO do what the Commtteoe
dered They told hin he must 60 on an sIaie %lat
he knew about the matters to De in'es'SVeu "hic 10
did. ,,., . .., -
put him b. the Committee 10 ms erect
Cuesfou-You now testify only 90 What VT Afnes 4af
told Won rs regards this matter ID You know Of any
body Of your own knowledge receiving this stookf WHAT
'U9 ANSWER s had rather not answer that question
The Committee decided he must answer i'
CONGRESSMAN BROOKS.
Il,rovv ~ bpt one man who did receive IT. ! sat at
the hoard in the directors room Of tho Union Pacific
Railroad and heard another director Of the board and
Mr. James: Brooks arranging about his having Credit
Mobier stock the director didn't want TO give him but
25 shares and Brooks wanted 90 ON the ground that e
anoIIv arranged that % shares should be given
Mr. Nelson BrOOks's s0nnlaW; ana lht ~ should Do
put back to ali the dividends the directors having
AZ last consented TO give hun that much; that is al
know OF my own knowledge. -..,,,-,,
The substance OF this testimony was puolsned Where
upon Mr. Brooks came tho House the next day and
under the guise OF personal eAp on maze m lear
OF crimes aud that he had been convicted during the
war OF cheating the soldiers rms very muel u uIDed
McCOmb, who is said 10 STAND very "ei III the COM
munity where be lives.
McoMB BECOMES WILLING WITNESS.
After thinking it over Mr.. McComb decided TO
90 before the Committee and say to thom this in sub
stance "when was before you before stated knew
of but one man who had this stock OF my own knowledge
That was true then and it is true now have seen Mr.
Brookss explanation and. while had no desire to be
brought into collision with Afr Brooks, was bound 70
state the truth under OATH and now ne mas made 1t
necessary for me to 90 iurtheI anu slate uat Know
not OF my knowledso, blt can prove by Witnesses
that Mr. Brooks not only had this 90 sates OF STOCK ot
thai he mas had 100 shares Of Credit MObr stock
and that be has received and more OF dividends or
Increase account Of owning stock OF tae CreIt Mob-
Her and ii YOU viii examine the DOOhso h CIet 9ioD
ler and witnesses whom will name The truth VIII ap-
pear. one of the witnesses is dI. lhOinS & Durant
that Won send for and these witnesses due TO
myself aud TO Congress and the people,
Mr.. AMEs AND HIS FRIENDS.
There the investigation terminated by the adjourn
ment for the holidays But in the meantime there
another matter which was troublesome TO everybody
Mr. Ames as before stated, had said In answer IN the
lawsuit that there such letters and that there
was no ob stock list as Mr. McCOmb had charged in his
bill and testified TO before the Committee. Mr. Bard
well of Bostop as well as two three other gentlemen
had seen McCOmbs stock list, ana AmCs had told them
the same story that he had told McConb, rs McCOmb
it would seem that some OF the gentlemen who had
made denjas expected and might have desired Ame5 to
90 before the Committee and Affirm his answer in
the chancery suit, denying that he had ever distributed
the stock or written tho letters and the stock list pro
hV
their denias made in the papers nat hey had ever had
any stock and everybody would thus nave got out OF
the scandal except Ames might be badly damaged
by any evidence that might be produced from Mr. Bard,
well and Others OF the fact that Ames had sad over and
over gain that he bad distributed the stock to the
persons charged
AMEs not WILLING TO DE A scAPEGoAr
It probably occurred Mr. Anes that the result OF
any such course as this in addition TO tstiiyng falsely
in fact would simply be to make him scapegoat, be-
cause the letters and stoclist would be proved upon
him. and the fact that he had said he could brbe any
member Of Congress had been 10 by McCOmb and
II kmes b.d fasihed 10 that extent about his fellow
members and fact did distribute the stock 70
ANYBODY could be reason shown why ne shOnd
not he cxpeed for 40 grave misconduct and everybody
else would 20 clear. 1t must have suggested Itself
to Mfr. Ames that such might De the result OF
any attennt 10 screen his felow-members further
IL he tried 10 do so; whereas he came
out and told tho exact truth, OF course rot saying ne
had brbed anybody and was very clear that ne could
not bbed anybody unless somebody had consented
brbed and the House could not expel member
House iso expelled the member who was bribed and
that would be pretty large business ardy 10 De got
through with before the eId OF GOnees On Iho sh S
conclusion tell the truth about the distribution OF the
stock and his letters TO McComb OF course denying that
in giving stock TO anybody that worth s0O share
for 800 paid the Company for any body supposed there
was any wrong bribery IN the transaction
Therefore Mr. Ames went and employ ed very COM
petent counsel not 10 cover up any Transaction OF any
save his CLIENT and Mr. Ames depended upon Mr.. Cush
ng's Judgment to the course he should take Anes,
tLerefore If we may believe the report went before the
"a II,
distribution OF the stock was concerned He stated ex-
with IT, the dividends and his agreement to hold IL in
the nubeation and the denas and wanted him 10 take
back and stated that Others still had it, generally stat
ing the facts exactly McComb had testned and pretty
much the facts they far tho acts done were
concerned but insisted that everybodys motives
good and pure IN taking the stock well as IN giving 1t
traced by Amess own statement into the hands OF many
gentlemen whose names have been published on the
Stock list; and their connection with IT, and the denals
O. having had it, are to be explained as well as they
MR.. AMEssDEFoRE THE COMMITTEE
Ames report of testimony Is correct. went to Bout
well and wantednim to,nvest in this stock Mr.. Bout
well looking upon tins matter OF investment, said, in
substance 81 have and cannot invest In it,"
Ames said "Iwill carry the stock for you." Boutwell,
replied Il don't about having anybody carry stock
that don't pay for. am not accustomed to get
under o6gatons that am not able to discharge at any
who represented IL as good but Boutwe coneluded 70
have nothing to do with It, There were others who did
it and did have the dividends But when McComb came
out with these disclosures OF them tried 70 give 1t
back 1t is said that one gentleman OF high position went
tears big eyes to Mr. Ames and wanted the stock
ANOTHER GREAT swIsDLE.
About two years ago last Summer Mr.. Boutwell,. being
Secretary of the Treasury this state OF facts
In relation to the Union Pacific Railroad that Is to say
the Government had agreed while the road was building
that 1t would not ask the payment OF the interest on
their bonds but half Of the earnings of the road In doing
Government business, carrying its mails and troops
and that applied to the Union Pacific and Central Pa
cinc and all the Pacific railroads. and there were n
great many Pacific railroads who got those bondssome
OF them now finished and others which never Will be-
ThereupOn Boutwell, called on the managers OF the
roads, and said Your roads bui and do not see
any reason why the Government should be paying you
for carrying troops and its mails while you owe II In
teres Ipropose TO have you Offset all your earnings
doing Government business against the interest,"