New-York tribune., 1873-03-21

dispelled by the resolutions of the Roman Csthohc
Bishops, and it evident that there was 70
be no end to the agitation until they oo-
tanned all their demands. Under these changeu
circumstances Mr. Horsman asked, why did not the
government withdraw the bili Nobody wanted it-ho-
body accepted tit settled nothing, bnt unsettled every
body The Protesiants did not want II. the Cathohos
refused TO accept It, and Mr. Gladstone onght 10 nave
pus an agreeable termination 10 an ugly business Dy
Withdrawing the bin There precedent FOR pro
oeeding with a measure universally conoemheu'
and why should Parliament have this bill thrust
down its throat against its viii as vote
Of confidence In the Government Had any
En glish OF Scotch member-Mr. Horsman asked amid
gone through the hypocrisy OF profess
ng to feel confidence in the Government on this ques
toni To ask for such vote was piece of effrontery
worthy OF q cartoon in Punch. When the country
understood the bill. such vote would be regarded as
a vote OF confidence in Cardinal Cullen and his
priests ANY member who gave such vote would
meet with speedy execution from his constituents.
Passing discuss the bill itself. Mr. Horsman ap-
Piled TO it this test-s it bill framed to promote the
we-being Of Ireland by raising its moral and intel
ectual culture the highest point, is IL compi-
scheme for handing IN the next generation
higher education OF the country 10 the control OF the
Roman Catholic priesthood by means of affiliated col
egss this part Of his speech he traced the history
Of mixed education IN Ireland maintaining that the
mixed schools had succeeded in spite OF the
priests and readng passages from Pastorals illustrating
the deadly hostility Of the Roman Catholic Bishops to
the Queens Colleges and the strong steps they had taken
10 deter Roman Catholics from frequentng them. II
the Roman Catholics had any grievance in this matter
IL was by reason Of the disabilities created by their
Church when the State had removed all disabilities
But they had no grievance which could not he RENE
died by abolition OF tests After an amusing cot
cisIo OF Lord Hartngtons speech, in the midst
OF which a gesture of dissent from Mr. Glad
stone incidentally brought upon him a sarcas-
nd
cone@sion to the policy of Dsesrabhshing the Irish
Church" which provoked some tumultuous cheering,
Mr. Horsman declared that the bill would lower the
standard of university teaching. Between the clergy
and the aity there contest waging in this matter
Of educatiOn-the clergy eDdeavoring by system OF
persecution get the complete control OF education
down to the multiplication table, and the aity resisting
But what fall for the great English Liberal party TO be
exhibited in the Of Europe throwing ts weight on TO
the side Of the clergy, and coneeang TO the Roman
Catholic Bishops power which they were not permit
ted 70 in any other country in Europe The
Bishops smight take to home rule, but it would be
too late. and the laity would ultimately triumph Re
gar6ing as practically impossible give the names Of
the governing body now, Mr. Horsman advised that tue
amendment shonld be withdrawn and repeating once
mors that il was little short OF ar0nt 60 persevere
with the b he appealed to the House to yndicate It's
independence by throwing ii out the second reading
Mr. Lowe, the Chancellor Of the Exchequer, made a
speech which seemed improve the condition OF the
Government He announced that the Government was
disposed to make two important concessions He held
out the prospect that the gagging" clause would be
given up, and he declared that the Government had
never intended TO sanction the wholesale affation Of
diocesan colleges In regard TO sectaran influence over
education he said:
In nv opnion we should regard the disposition OF the
Roman Catholic Bishops we should CONFUSION OF
nature such as an earthquake or faInine-as some
thing which cannot be helped aed must he made the
hes IL.
selves to il, and deal with as best we can we mao
right honorable gentleman pointed out and because We
are dispeased, annoyed and vexed, give up the
matter in despair-at all events not willie ts s.lgntss
hope remains do not say this with any wen 10
concilate the Irish Bishops but in order that we
may such steps viii enable us 70 ofer university
education OF the highest class 70 the youth OF lreno
who without IT, The practical question before
us Isl how we can best accomplish this object What is
their complaint which We are disposed 70 recognize anu
PLANT Is this that they are prohibited from obtaining
degrees they educated ~ Catholic university or
under Catholic tuition. This complaint dIlses from
the conditions which imposed upon those seeking
degrees. .o.
receiving degree must have studied either IN Trinity
College one of the Queens Colleges Inat eonai
deut mat cannot educate the youth OF tna
condition was preserved We cannot prevent the irish
Bishops from issuing such orders they think proper
neither eradicate from the hearts OF tue students
their religious feelings the fear OF the effect their
disobeving those rules may upon their future fe
Under circumstances 1t s our duty to look 70 Ire
land and what she requires and TO waive the deter
ring condition which now require-namely, residence
in either Dublin University the Queens University,
and substitute for il the CONDITION that candidates Tor
degrees shall simply pass the examination OF the UNI
vergtes That 10 without any saef1nee OF pflh
ciple. and without any dlshOnOr We have no reason
think 10 despair that this change Will have the effect OF
accomplishing what we have IN view -, ,o,- .h.
The great end we have IN view Is 70 break down the
barrier that now separates the Catholic upper ana MD
die classes from University education We tinK we can
devise a remedy for the present state OF Things nave
pointed that state OF things Is manly owing 70 lNV
natters-namely, the imperfect state OF Il1y C0ege
and the difficulties that still thrown by the agency
of the bishops in the way Of the Catholic youth attain
ing degrees at the National University. The remedies
are contained tins BILL and think they are perfect
for the purposes for which they are devised.
Trinity propose the House knows, 20 divide into
two parts-intO a university ana college We propose
10 give power 10 Trinity College 70 reform itself We
give TO nOn-residents the power Of passing AZ the uni
Versy There is OF course the case OF the aniiated
colleges but they have very little 10 40 with TINS part OF
the question They not properly called animated
colleges but colleges included IN the University.
The only effect OF including colleges is not 10 give any
sort OF preference above those persons VINO arc not IN
such colleges bat simply 70 give such colleges the power
OF sending a member 10 the University, anG 10 enable
them 10 give such information the Governing Body
may require for its purpose We could hardy nave
expected the kind of criticism 20 which we nave been
eubected We make fair offer 10 the youth OF Ireland
and tC those who are interested III their welfare
The debate had advanced far in the night, when Mr.
Claiborne Hardy the Conservative member from Oxford
University began long address in opposition TO the
Government. The subject then adjourned TO the