The New York herald., 1873-11-20
WHAT THE JURY SAY.

He called first at No. 43 walker street upon Mr.
Adolph Opper, the second juror. This gentleman
was seated in his place OF business, enjoying
o nap after the nights work that he had
done. When the reporter stated his business Mr..
Opper was very unwilling to give any information,
saying that there had been an agreement among
the jurors before they left the jury room that no
intelligence OF their consultations should reach the
public and that he felt bound in honor by this agree
ment not TO say anything. Upon the reporters
representations that the matter was one
OF great public interest, and one in which
the conduct Of the jury was thing
OF prime importance, Mr. Opper gradually re-
treated from the position he had at first assumed,
and consented to give voice to some things which,
as he stated, he did not consider came within the
agreement which had been made between them
all.
at has been stated by person in authority that
at no time there any one of the jurors in favor
Of acquittal," said the reporter.
THE JURY UNANIMOUS.
"That is true" answered Mr.. Opper; from the
first moment that we retired we saw plainly that
not one OF US was in favor Of acquitral. Even
those who did not agree with the majority were in
favor OF some punishment being meted out to the
accused. Indeed, on this point there was more
unanimity than had expected"
"With SO unanimous an opinion" said the
reporter, "WnaJ was tne reason OF SO long q con-
sultation, lasting all nightr'
sThis Is one OF the things that do not feel at
liberty to state. But can say, generally, that it
was on questions OF law which were not perfectly
clear to some OF the jurymen. We all wanted to
do duty, and we did not feel like going outside
OF the pure techncalities OF the case at any mo-
ment. This caused OF course, much argument and
consultation, which was not settled until morning.
when we came out to ask the advice Of the
Court"
'There has been much said about attempts at
bribery. Did you hear or see anything of the
kind ?''
mo, did not. l do not believe that any such
attempt was made and even II there had been it
would have been entirely unsuccessful. / believe
that the jury was an honorable body OF men, who
would not have listened to any advances
OF the kind. / believe all OF US took
the evidence for just what 1t was
worth and nothing more and on that evidence we
thought there were overwhelming proofs of
guilt. But prefer not to speak any longer, as /
may say more than wish"
The reporter then went in search OF Mr.. Fred
erick Lewis, the tenth juror at No. "a White street.
This gentleman, 1atigued by his labors, had already
gone to his home, in Forty-sixth street, and had
said nothing either way the other about
the case to his business associates.
son, the eleventh juror, at 367 Broadway. This
gentleman was in his office. and upon being ques-
toned as to the consultations the jury repeated
the statement of the previous juror that the jury
men had agreed not to say anything concerning
the doings in the jury room. He added that this
was done in consideration Of the demands Of some
who did not apparently wish their doings to be
known; not tnat they had done anything In any
way reprehenslbe, but that they simply did not
care to have what they SAID reported in the public
prints.
In answer to question as to the statement that
no one OF the jurymen on the first ballot had been
in favor OF acquitta, Mr.: davidson said that this
was perfectly true, and that not one OF them
seemed to be for one moment in favor OF acquittal
that they differed to some extent as to
THE DEGREE OF THE PRISONERS GUILT,
s'On charge OF misdeme anor,n asked the re.
porter, .'how was it that any difference OF opinion
"As before stated, there was doubt OF the
guilt Of the prisoner, but we were trying him on
meanor carelessness in oflice. Of these we
were all satisfied that the prisoner was guilty; but
the fourth Indictment, holding some SO counts,
On these we differed for long time. and
could not very easily come to any conclusion.
Some OF us were OF opinion that the prisoner was
not guilty OF wilful corruption in onlce but simply
ofgross careessness Others believed HIM guilty
OF the corruption too. We discussed these matters
in all their bearings but could come to conclu-
sion. At the same time in all this there was not
the slightest h GnanGe S.r .. ON the
in our opinion that the accused was guilty. |
AS you. may have seen, it required |
matter stood, and when we received our instruc- |
tions then we had no difficulty in agreeing and |
brought In our verdict Of guilty on all the counts,
0Yolr verdict seems to have astonished every.
body"
not surprise were ourselves. We were all quite |
convinced OF the guilt Of the prisoner from the |
moment that we left the court room"
MT. DamdSan here excused nlmSelf from saving |
anything further on the ground that he did not |
wish to violate his promise.
Mr. william Sloane, the twelfth juror could not |
be found at his place OF business in Broadway, nor
MT LeSnidas on las Van praag the sixth Juror M his
upon Mr. Theodore Goldsmith, in Fulton street, but
found that that gentleman, Ike the others, had
No. l Cedar street, was in the same state. All
these seemed, from what was said Of them, to have
been quite overcome by their abors and unable to
40 anything lurtner in the way OF business.
Mr. David Palmer, the foreman OF the jury, who |
could not be found at No. stone street. his place
Seventh street. This gentleman was the foreman |
OF the jury, and was more communicative than the |
others had been, At the same time reminding the |
reporter that he had promised to say nothing
Mr. Palmer reiterated the statement that all the |
IN FAVOR OF CONVICTION.
He said that he at heart sympathzed deeply with |
Tweed at the thought that one who had been SO
high should have fallen so sow. At one moment |
W. wa, 'nSasn' s'sa counse ' fOp aeenss
was very persuasive. But when the arguments |
had been cody taken up and dissected by the |
other side he saw there was no bottom to them. |
1t almost unnamed him when he left the Court to |
think that ne would have to ind Tweed gnilty He |
had no doubt majority OF the jury felt as he did,
but they were not governed by sympathies.
The reporter asked question as to whether the |
jury believed that Tweed was guilty on all the |
counts. He did not like to give an answer TO this,
but finally avowed that the argument had been |
longest on this point, and that after arguing II |
nearly all night. the Jurymen turned their chairs
Sleep as he believed. at the time There was no |
possibility OF coming to any decision on the last |
count OF corruption until they had consulted the
Court upon the matter and then they were unani-
mous in every thing
was any sympathy expressed for the pris-
oner ?u
eyes, one OF the jurymen said that he though 1t
was rough to send "Bossn Tweed to prison-a man
who had been so powerful. But this same man
voted right through for guilty and never swerved."
.Did you hear anything OF any attempt al
bribery ~