The morning star and Catholic messenger. [volume] (New Orleans [La.]) 1868-1881, 1873-12-14

at q meeting haE& at the Billion Hotel, in this q
city, whore &c might be said that the lion lay Q
were r.spreseatgd, Among thsgsntlsmsn pres
emit were Mr. BOYLE, the banker; Sir william !
signed his Deputy Lieutspancy ON the passing
Of the Church Disestablishnent act; ME-.
James vokes Maekay three Of the leading '
aud Hanghton and Mr. Butt, who drew mp the '
following declaration of the objscte Of the as
sociation, which was unanimously signed:
500 Zsl HOME RULE PIATFoRx.
To obtain for our country the right and pri
vilege of managing onr own affairsSby Par
lament assembled in Ireland, composed OF HeS
Majesty, the Sovereign, and her successors,
and the Lords and Commons of Ireland. To
sec ure for that Pariament, under a federal ar.
rangement, the right of legislating Sr and
regulating all matters relating to the internal
sources and revenue, subject to the obligation
Of contributing our just proportion Of the I'm,
perial expenditure. 70 leave to an Imperial a;.I
all questions affecting the Imperial Grown
and government, legislation regarding the
colonies and other dependencies of the
pir e" With foreign States and all matters
appertaining to the defence and the stability |
Of the Empire at large. To attain such an ad-
iustment Of the relations between the two
countries without any interference with the
prerog atives of the Crown OF any disturbances
of the principles of the constitution.
HUNGARY AND IRELAND.
! Correspondeut-Are the home rulers rec
| ognized party in Ireapdf 900
| Mr.. Sulivan-CertAinly, think can illus
trate my meaning by comparison with the
state Of Hungary Just before ITS ahrss
parties-the separatists. led by Kossutb the
constitutional nationalist, whose leader was
Deak, and the imperial, or Austrian party. here
we have very nearly the same state OF atalrs.
The Fenian party corresponds to the separa,
lists the home rulers to the constitutional
nationalists, aad the castle or English party
to the imperial Austrian.
? Correspondent-How do You compare the
! home rule movement to O'Connelrs agitation
Mr.. Sullivan-O'Connell' agitation was for
: n total repeal of the union, wishing to return
to the Irish constitution exactly as 1t was In
o 1852 in point of fact to establish perfect dn.
aism under one crown such as now eAi ;ns u
= as much of O'ConnelPs programme as relates
q to peace and war, the management OF the army
= and navy and our arrangements with f9pe, tSa
d executive or ministry as we'll as Parliament.
They wish, in fact that irelana enou,o stots
"a of New York does to the United States.
;ol Correspondent-Doy you imagine that home
rule If granted wGud aDsor snss9 of nav
10 knowledge, but I firmly believe that many
N even Of tho more advanced eympathizers Will
70 | Renianism, would be content with home rule
Q, Daring the eleven years from 1859 to 1870 there
=. was no constitutional agitation In the countr!
lit and Fepianism, which may be called the poll
y tics of despair, was in far greater force thai
81 was actu ally believed. In secret society ON
IN is, of course, unable to say how many memoer
n are enrolled, and though think the numbe
cd was comparatively small, yet the spread OF On
cd Fenian spirit among the masses Of the Peopi
vn Correspondept-Do you think that the pass
he ing of the Church Disestablishment act ma
es- fheen in yonr favor or against you
he Mr.. Sullivan-Certainly in our favor fo
ng now for the first time IN our history tne AZ,
1e- testant becomes an Irishman. see three daI
es- gers ahead The Feniap discontent, the teal
oh Of the Orangemen that we shall become e.
TT, tools of the Jesuits, the fears of Cardinal On
nd len and the priests thct we shall become u
we tools of the Orangemen.as- -
in Correspondent-Aret there many Protestan
nst with you
ere gentlemen (laughing). The Wings say IL
ben Protestants are Joining ms to spite @r. 1la
stone. The Catholic clergy held back ;1 fssFI
:ial Gladstone. They did not believe much in Il
,es- sincerity of the Professionals aud thong6e
but factions attempt to ass tn oeer or
Oh; they say, " but We do not join the novem9
irst vet for fear of frightening the PROTESTANT.
ON; Correspondence the elections "nto Hsm ma
ner was started, have the Cathoiio clergy ~
'ars interferod7 'a'
il . M. sniliyan-Though have always TAX
the what would be called = strong part in Catho
'ns affAirs led the great revolt against cIes,t
tho selection of candidates which the oslenrat
For IOnpfOrd election OF 1COS
in tho Catholic clergy selected Lord Grenviil
at son. the people selected John Martin, then
ain, sont in America, and called upon mo to rep
me ecpt him on the hustings. IL WAS pam
hus & ebt bet ween old friends, the people versus
3 Of psests; the latter claiming the privilege
W as SELECTING Parliamentary candidate9, the 1orlt
the voting against it. The PRIESTS, by feari9
,ard undue ":inhuence beat us at the Foiis
1t, 1 the people lodged petition and upset IN
less. reverencee' candidate.
one Correspondent--Mr. Martin never Sat
log Longford, believer
an Mr.. Sullivau-No; bnt, on vacancy "Gc
sis ring shortly after in Meath, we put up .,
Weo Martin. who is Presbyterian and ctIrieh u
Their t.iumph antly against the Hon Mr.. rInnkt
low, Who is the son Of Lord Fingall, great Cat
my lie pe.r, who was supported by the Cain.
Ance bishops and clergy. am bound to Say, ne
as aver. that the Meath Bishop. and pre-
YES fought US fairly, temPeratey, and good nun
nom adv. These elections-Longford and neAI
lttee had n great deal to do with the mHrVeli
90 OF change Of Protestant and conservative OPT .
ng in the home rule direction Immediately Al
she WardS. Proteetants saw with amusement !
OF, not only would Catholics not bllndiy 10,
'cteo priests in politics, bot would Literally y
g. SUP o. them, and that, TOO, in favor OF Protest.
candidates.