The sun., 1873-09-01


any charge that might he made against him. lie
went to feekskill IA few weeks ago To see a
friend, but ON learning that his absence created
su-picous he hurried back, and has remained
AZ his home ever since. when these runners re-
gAIdins him were hrst set adoat he notified the
authorities of his readiness to appear whenever
wan vd. He never has wanted To escape, be-
cause lie has nothi"g To- escape from.
An Interview With William e. Kingsley.
Mr. william c. Kingsley expressed his
willingness to give all the Information he had
concerning the late defalcation. " Understand
he said, 90 do not speak as an Official. ! never
held public Official position in my life. only
know about tits matter through my personal
acquaintance with the various ofncials OF the
city. and through the fact that am one Of Mr..
Srragues hovdsmeu.'
Repor'cr-when did you nrst become ac-
quaintcd with Mr. Rodmau;
MIR. Kingsley-A year or two after the forma-
tion ot the Trust Company. was not one OF
the original subscribers to the stock. but bought
the stock hold after the company had gone
into operation. paid tl2o a share for the most
of what hold. was made a director without
my knowledge or request. Nr Rodman WAS
Secretary OF the company when | went into II,
and | think had been placed In that position
through MIR. MilIs's influence. OF ths, however,
Rcporter"When Mr. snrarue appointed Mr..
Kudman his deiutv, did he consult his bonds
|
MIR kincsley-He did not consult me, and
do not think he consulted any Of the Others.
But the appointment was generally approved of.
IA Nr. Rodman l. quiet. pleasant gentleman.
apparently an able business man. and had made
aeo"d impression on all his acquaintance II
VT >prigue hid not appointed him, should
have tried to secure his services Ia my own
onee' ~ had eNer g'"hdcnce 10 fim. did
l'n.t know ANYTHING uf bis vast history. bat /
formed my judgment from ny acquaintance
Reporter when did YOU ar-, become Mr.
/ = rAEuc g hunt-unuf
MriKIursrv-At tie beginning ~ his first term.
| which Wa- I've years Az. II" Is now 100 tue -c'-
ono year "i bi, stc9na tr,'i, ON .s, mr. rly.N.h
curity required by law. ms was done At the
request some q nv Intimate tueud-. when
/ man AGAIN, and without waitiu.. Tor me to say
I ANYTHING or ask any question: went r.ght ou 60
4 Soy. give you my Wurd II honor that every
thing is ali rsht. i treu signed a Joint bond
/ wIth four other Tor slJj,Vo.
srRACtr KNEw ALI AuoUTIT.
Reporter When dii YOU first learn of defal-
Mr kin-sey-Af,er Mr. NILS. death went 70
Mr.. Sprague to learn n lie was affected 10y Mill-s
operston. lie had anticipated my call and Has
| greatly affected, beng nervous. abseDt-minded,
hal involved him m the matter; tnat Rodman
/ and Mills had taken $1,000 Of the city's money
! and had not made IL good. i asked him when
tins was DONE and he said 1t was about the mid
die OF his hrs; term. He ACKNOWLEDGED that he
every one, thinking that they would make II
! good. He wunted me to help him TO make II
good. told him that he had forfeited all claims
/ t. my friendship or assistance by giving me his
! word OF honor that his affairs were all right
| when he knew that his deputy Was a common
| thief, and that II he did not immediately restore
! the sSur | should expose him and ask to he
released from his bond and should not help
him one dOlar, even II he was sent to state
prison. He seemed very much agtated, and
said that lac would make u good. saw him the
said lac Was working at It, 1 told him that il
must he done immediately as ! would not keep
such secret. IL was all made w within four
Rcporter- When did you FIRST know NJ the
/ heavier defaicatiun next brought TO hghtf
! Mr.. kingsley Not unul II was made public. |
went out of town, satisfied that according to
| Mr. Sprague's representations everything was
/ turned t. md what is now known, that there
/ has been further stealing Of SlisIn0 Rodman
was at large when returned, and called on
the Mayor and Corporation Counsel in relation
/ To this. asNed them whether hodman ought
not to be arrested. They said tney thought 80.
asked whow was going To- arrest INN. Ihey said
they did not know. said thought the chief
| initiate such movement win the co6peraton
! Of the city's authorized legal adviser. IL was
finally arranged ia this way and Rodman Is now
Reporter he not probably come out on
no oNr TO RISK $4,000.
Mr. Kingsley--G think not. ! don't think he
can get bal IN $4,000. There has been good
| deal Of criticism on the amount fixed. Some
! consider it excessive, ana some say II Is not
| enough, but tuink il is about right
Rep"rter-Wa, there never any examination
I ny lIlf bfiNNlttH ~ '4f'S tNb lhtl' VI bS oll-
/ Cials, of their accounts
Ar. kin.sley-I do not know Of any being
| made by the bondsmen. | Caun1t say as to OH
! Cldl examinations.
| Mr.. Sprague turned over property enough to Sc
| cure the whole amountf
SIR Kingsley ne city Will lose nothing Mr..
Sprague has signihed his intention 10 make over
the whole Of his property, and has al eady given
/ mo the Comutrollel's hands his personal prop
| erty. lie made an appointment 10 meet the
/ Comptroller on Friday, and Wlth his VIE 10 sign
! over an his real estate He did not meet this
! appointment. but friend explained that Mr.,
/ Sp agde was confined to his house by the physi-
cians orders. ! presume his Illness Is ~ re-
/ suit Of this trouble and ] have no doubt he in
tends turning over all the property, lhis accord
! inE TO his valuation, amounts to about SlAOUul,
| p esume the loss TO the sureties viii not reach
| $D,uO.
Reporter-Who erepresent, and what was
/ done Il the meeting Of the bondsmen on Satur-
! day
Mr Kingsley bondsmen were all present
| except MIR, Low Mr. sanger acted ana spoke Tor
him, The CITY Comptroller and CorpoIatI"n
! Counsel we're also thoT,. The Comptroller, !
| think, takes a stand which Is not very liberal to,
! ward the bOndsnen. lie says, " want thlS phlu
at once" ! maintain that the proper course
| and the course which any COlnnercla house
would pursue. II to see hrst what can he realized
| from tue property of these men, ana tnen 70
call on the bOndsmen To make up the denclt'
| The demand will be met withodt doubt
Reporter VIII the sureties pay without su't
! being bToughtI 49,,
! Mr. Kingsley think they VIII. raised the
| question in the meeting whether Holman ron
! berries were committed by him as Deputy
pany. The Comptroller declares that IL was ~
| the first capacity, but am not prepared 10 ray
| that accept this. - l.,
Reporter-Do you know Of defaleations In
| Mr. Kingsley No. The rumors that have
been Clre dated t0 that effect ae ,UlAII WIN