, 1873-01-11
HELL.
Shall the wicked Ilc Destroyed 1~-A
Discussion mt tho Now York N1ctho.
diHt Prrnchcrs' NIcGliliEs

Shall the Wic1ecd Ilc Destroyed 1"-A
Dfsc.,xsiola Mt tho Now York n1ctho.
s1int Prcnchcrs' NIcoling.
Tho NIotholist preachers Of Now York : and l,l
vicinity hold their regular weekly ncetsn5 In tho
Mission rooms Of tho Methodist Dook Concern,
broadway aud Eloyontli stroot.
Tho following qucs lions wore PROPOSED J., i9r or
discussion at tn the dmny noxf rogntf W tho
wickod In holt finally beconlo o1ti1ct7 Are tle
futuro punishmonts OF tho wickod permaneht1
Aro the conscious punlshments OF tho w,cko9
onlloBa, or aro tho punlshmontB of the Wicltcd
in hell parallel to tho otornal bliss Of tile
righteous In hoaVon2
An oldorly gentleman said Tint there wag
disposition to Ignore this subject or 1ieil. Ino
Why shut out tho light? During tho past week
havo boon approached BY tio mcmbors q 20 Of my my
congregation, saying, sec tiat tho Neth99ists M
prninhmont Of tho wickod is not ondess, thou
| tho Joy of tho righteous Ia not. Ono doctrine
sta,,1g with tho otlier. If tho views promnlgatou
| by DR.. True bo allowed to 60 unanswered It WI
| mako me desperate. NY very soul IL nbsorped.
| It's all awful thing with mo- propose tug iol-
lowing: Do tho Scriptures ,givo hopo M t1at the
| wclsotl shall finally cease to exist? lcres or
Dr.. True gaid TINT 1t was without any inter-
vontion on his part tint llo WIS called upon to
speak. 1Io 4ud boon patient to present his views
| to tlla publc. Tor sefon yonrs ho had taught
tholn to his flock with good results. did not
| think that when apoho endangered tho SOULS
OF those prcsent. II you want to reach the
point, 1 propose that tho following proposition
| 10 discussed: "rhat tho etornal future or tho
wicked is not tho eternal conscioqsnessn 8 OF hin
md nisory;' or, - la uenth eternal 0eatn eter"
| nal puuishmout?
Mr. Corbott nsltcd how punishment could bo
eternal If tho soul ccases to exist.
DR.. Truo-Tloro must bo adi1erenco botwoon
| q houso eau 10 destroyed, or n tree. but it il
| something. am so snuguine of my yoWs that
/ belioyo that tho whole Christian Church Will
soonor or later embrace them. If tho other
question docs not meet your approbatinn try
tlIiB: ttDoca tho future punishnont Of tho wclt-
cd i1nply their oter1lal consciousness {" HlaBosJ
An excited mcmber here sprang to hiH scat,
saying: ''Wo have had too mitch Of this at tue
occasionod Considerable talk. There is danger.
[Criea of sAmon.1 We aro now TO startlo tho
| rcligious community for ton weeks to COMO
| whon no should doyot0 olr efforts to Homething
fully; ho Inns mover lad bcttor chance than tho
prosent. If this question be adopted must
read up on hell instead Of warning sinnora from
tho wrnth to come. Arg wH to begin the Y year
no objection TINT this thon,o be discussed in
] March, SEQ reporters present from this city
from Doookly,, Jeraoy City, Nowark, and otl,or
If Ills quoson to- %h i" ope n
l'tl, Sir. Corbott said there was no rso ignoring
tho subject. It will not Interfere with tug Has'a-
tion of aoulB. Mr.. Wesley did not hesitate to
speak Of hell and da,nnation; why should we I
Ierlinps thore may DO creator onos hero tlian i,e
think this question should be discussed for tho
salvation Of souls. II the doctrine OF doatr1c-
ton bo accepted so about carelossly; but mako
punishment eternal and 60 along carefully. |
do not protond to bo au ugol-[iaughtorl-I nm
liablo to orr. bnt wllon, tho doctrines of tho
Church arc assailcd, riso to arms for its do
fence You tell mo to bo calm. cannot when
that which is 60 dear to mo is 'yrongoa.. know
that tho discussion will do good. The REASON
why we do not got nlong faster ia because VIC do
not hnve enough hell IN our rolglon:n fn .u.,o,.
motion to lay tho question OIL the table, Which
wnB lost.
1Io was sorry that It was said thMt tho chnrei. y
question or auch momont bo not discussed. Ho
wwns not IN favor Of having tho reporters ad-
mitted. Tho prosa tomorrow would have tho
1argo would 600 that VIC nro afraid to touch tlis
subject Of hell. II brother is 80 low Us to bo
afraid OF nltoring Ills views BY n discussion, I
recommend that ho stay ut home aud pray. IN
wosos tine they few froo on s
IA nut for damned sinners to crack." I hope
We will net like sensible mon, and not as chill
tlron, We should not ahirk from this question;
in for fair and,GSt pny IA e. vasa s IT. o
lectual investigation 10 denied thoy would 90
,shero it would not DO denied. Ono OF tho
greatest hindraucoB in the cauao of God IN TINT
tho peoplo are not impressed enough with loll.
This proachorH' meeting should speak with nc
uncertain sound. We want truth. [Crios OF
"Gloryi"l want this question discussed next
Monday, md TO DO continued until finally dis:
posed Of. IA voice, "Put him out!''l I shall
not be frowned down.
Another reverend doctor did not think that
thia question WA ono Of tho doctrinoa Of tic
Motllodipt Church, neither did ho know tint he
waa in a lnnnaiaotory Of Methodist doctrines
lights OF our Church, ho said, was built siIal
wo talto out tho foundation stone and flow it te
the world7 [Cr!ea Of "No!'1 We owo Homo
thing to our people. Ihoy heyo their on,iy,c 2, c'
ffSri ffories Of Yeui"I '''-'' ' >'''1 se''A' -
Tho motion to POSTPONE tho debate until the
orsa m oved at wSe
1t DO to moot tho first Monday III March. ELaugh
! tori
, Roy, DR.. Roach asked, Why do we propose t.
to doubt that the fut4ro happiness Of tho pllrt
DO eyorlasting3 haye no doubt that Mr.; Cor
hett will do the subject full j1asico. 1Ioll Wa!
!, preaohod threo or four hllndrod years ago, ant
discussed with avidity. It ia now Bottlod. Ihs
wicltod shall bo turned to boil. bolioyo tina
nothing but evil will como by the discussion o
! this theme. uaye we the authority to diHous
! queHtfouG like theso IN pubIlc2 A voice, "bl
dowl.'] These meetings hayo been roportos
: and aont broadcast. Wo aro not Justified IL
those opon proceedings.
!, Tho motion to lay tho whole snbjoet On tho ia
bio WAS lost by o vote OF ~ to 29.
Rov, Mr., Marvin, tho Chairman, aala that b
); could not afford to allow 10 much waste Of proc
lous time,
i Rsy, Dr.. Curry said that llo wantod to waate
little. [Laughtor,1 / o4rroas myAolf t'ecidctll
6 aganat tho discussion. THAT rarroaemtatlv
body Of 1Iethodlsts should gather together an
: not SO unwisoly was to DO deprecated. It |
= lluu,iiating to view this question III tho light
= tho profnno. Tint body Of ministers unkuow
az to their ecclesiastical rollty should hero din
CUES tho very foundation OF Nlothodlsm 10 horr
!, bio. II this discussion 10 allowed, l desire t
- have my namo stricken from tho rolls. I
should most certainly not bo III public, bl
y should 30 louo Id private, logically anA leart
= odly: contoBs that poop1o lnyo boon edneato
y by theno meetings through tle press. But "