The New York herald., 1873-12-13


not TO toden the salary OF the supreme Court
judges. IL would apply, however, to the members
Of the Cabinet IL applied, therefore, only to what
were known as political offices.
Mr. HALE, OF New YORK, asked Mr.. Orth whether
IL was his Judgment that salary OF $4,000 toa
member OF the Cabinet was iair ana respectable
salary, especially In proportion TO the pay OF
member OF Congress If fixed at $4,000.
Mr.. ORTIZ believed that it was in consideration
OF the expenses OF members of Congress and oi the
injury TO their business In coming to Congress
aware that by the first act of 1859, regulating
salaries the pay OF the members OF the CABINET was
hxed at more than three times as mucn US tnat M 0i
members OF Congress, and renamed so LOT ~
years.
passed before he was born, and he had not exam
ined 1t. He moved the previous question on MS
proposition.
question would not be seconded. The discussion
should be continued until the people were satisfied
that the House understood IL as well as tney
Mr. ELDRIDaE, (dem.) of Wis., said that this was
one OF those questions in which the gentlemen felt
had been in the Forty-second Congress had had
their motives impugned, and they desired to give
expression 70 the ieehngs ana Ideas whicn tney
latitude OF debate should be much greater. The
honor OF Congress as well as the honor OF ndivid-
Mr.. MONROE rep) OF Ohio stated his position
In regard TO the Salary bill TO be nis:-He believed
that the true thing for the House to do was TO re-
peal completely and as thoroughly as 1t possibly
could consistently with the constitution the Salary
@ 81 yHe Sa G he Would I ike TO ne
piish by his vote If he could. He had
disapproved entirely OF raising salaries at that
time and had so voted. He was oil the same Gpin-
ion STILL He wished to see the law totally repealed.
He thought that was the simplest course, the right
satisfy the country Such being his conviction, he
desired 10 vote, II possible so as 10 make his vote
effective to that end He believed honestly that 1t
was wrong for the Forty-second Congress to at
| tempt to raise salaries under the circumstances
He had opposed the back pay and & the % forward pay
also thought IL great error In poncy, and snouid
be glad to see the law wholly, cleanly repealed and
utterly disposed Of His opinion was that the way
TO peace ana quiet and rest for the House on this
question was o to get rid OF the the whole sl OF
repealed the sooner they should have
peace. II they repealed only a part OF it
ing tendency to 20 back to it again and introduce
new bills on the subject to see If they could not
accomplish completely what IN , the beginning n ing was
make clean business OF the matter at the very
outset the measure would haunt them during the
winter.
/ The House now came to vote on the two pend
ing propositions. The first was that ofered by
| instructions to strike out the second and third
sections OF the bill and substitute ior them the
following:-
sompepsaon senators and and Dele h
monthly and in addition thereto the actual individual
expenses OF each senator. Representatve and Delegate
once in every session to certified in writing by each
Of ns sa Be IN q
pay amounting @ a in all to ss @ and IND
allowance for travelling expenses as hereinbeiore
Third-That all laws and parts of laws inconsistent
with the provisions of this act are hereby repealed
For these instructions Mr.. ORTIZ, OF Indiana Of
fered a substitute. as Iolows:-
That the select committee report bill repealing the
se So sT s the the
Court and ascertain the average amount OF salary,
mates for the use OF the ranking privilege paid to
Gonrrsss and repoTs b detemning W the
ton of senators Representatives and Delegates in Con-
thus ascerained, with the necessary travelling ex
before the passage OF that act.
The previous question was seconded by a vote OF
49, TO l26, and the main question was ordered.
The question was first taken substituting Mr.
Orths proposition, and 1t was adopted also with
out the yeas and nays. so the bill was recommtted
TO the special committee, with the instructions
proposed by Mr.. 0rth, and 1t was agreed that when
the bill shall be reported back 1t VIII be considered
under the i've minute RUE.
THE EXTRAORDINARY NAVAL APPROPRIATION.
The House then, at three O'Clock P. NJ, went into
in the char, and took up the bill appropriatlng
81 00o0 600 Tor extraordinary expenses OF the naval
service.
In the course OF discussion, Mr. Cox, (dem) OF
\. y, said that there was not night enough IN the
other day on the peigerency question The
diplomacy OF the government was not up to the
been dragged in the dust through our diplomacy.
One thing, however, was certain, and that was
that the navy ought to be better and stronger than
1t is. The city OF New York to-day at the mercy
OF any Of the European iron-clads that might |
choose to enter that harbor 1t could close up the
BY some peculiar refinement OF naval architecture |
and naval warfare that city was to-day at the |
mercy OF even so mean and contemplate aPower
spain.
Mr. KELLOGG. (repl, OF Conn.-Is it good time,
then, for going to war; Qaughter.l
Mr.. Cox-I am not speaking OF going to war. I |
am speaking OF the increase OF the navy irrespect
i've OF our diplomacy. When we get all our diplo-
understand the business. We Will lind that the
administration has not come up to the sentiment
Of the people. There question OF the TACT that
the house is pusillanimons before all the world.
on the old principle that the nag OF the country
tilla or the patriotic spirit; but will vote at ali
times TO strengthen the navy from other consider
atlons. Even If we had the pluck we have not got
the guns to go inside the harbor OF Santiago de |
cuba and take the virglnius thence. We want q
stronger navy. better spirit "a little OF the old
days OF the republic.
Mr.. HALE, trepl OF Me-, said it was gratifying to
New YORK Mr. Cox. He had in his memory the
constant attacks made by that gentleman hitherto
on al tb ne avs t 1s ,bs,
man was to-day In favor OF good and fair, liberal
and noble appropriations; but there was mon
strous inconsistency in the gentemans cry for
He had started out by declaring that the
House was pusianimous, that the administration
was lacking in proper sentiment and that, II 1t had
been guided by better spirit, it would have pro-
ceeded to take the virgnius out OF the harbor OF
Santiago de cuba and bring her into American
waters. At the same time that he lMr. Cox was
thus urging and bounding on to war, he had
said what was not borne out by the facts, but
which was all the more inconsistent in him. He
says mr. Hale continued) that single Spanish frg
ate can blockade our ports, can lombard our towns
and can burn down millions and millions OF prop.
erty II that So if he believes 1t to be s0 what
is the of his iniurated cry for war; sir, the
best thing about the Appropriation bill ana the
conduct OF the Secretary OF the Navy In this emer
gency is that all his naval preparation is an argu
ment not Tor war but for peace To be wel pre-
pared Tor an emergency and to show to the world
tnat we VIII not bear insult II such is put upon u.s.
is the best protection against insult. The Secre-
tary OF the Navy found the battered ships OF the
American navy In the distant waters OF the globe
old and broken, rotten and barely seaworthy, and
In time compassed by i've or SIX weeks he has put
respectable navy aoat, which is on its way to the
Cuban waters. He did that in the best interest OF
diplomacy: he did IL in the best interest OF hui
manity. 1t was not TO precpitate war upon this
country, when to-day we are big with the memory
OF a war. which, unless II be forced upon US, no
sane man wants to again In this generation.
He did t in the interest OF peace and venture to