New-York tribune., 1873-03-18

nc o Goyernmenf for not doing that which It would be
ridiculous TO attempt and impossible to perform d1
mass mi say that its being proposed circumstance
Unprecedented IN the annals Of Parliament
Mr. Bourke then moved his resolution, saying Ina'
il was on the constitution of the Council tha' ue
pended entirely whether the University shouio
flourish or decay Before handing to the new BODY
the power which exercised for three centuries
by the authorities OF Dublin University, he thought
the House ought TO that body was TO DC con
stituted. The precedents he maintained were eh'neS
in his favor duties to be performed by the Govern
ing Body OF the essence Of the measure and sd
Mr. Bourke Of the clauses OF the bill were con-
sdered u might easily imagined that there would he
difficulty IN finding the eminent men spoken Of by Mr.
Gladstone TO serve on the council Parliament did
not proceed with caution it would turn out that the d
recton Of University education would fall into the hands
Of men Of inferior caber. The motion OF Mr Bourke
seconded by Lord E. Ftzmauiee second son OF the
Marquis OF Lansdowne, Liberal. who ordinarily sup
ported Mr. Gladstone in favor Of the disestabish-
ment Of the Irish Church. and OF the abolition OF re
gious tests at universities In his speech he endeav-
cred TO show how inconsistent the bill was in many
points, with Mr. Gadstone's speech In introducing IT,
OF the bill whole, he maintained that IL would de
stroy Protestant separate education, and che mixed
system Of education in order ultimately to give the Ro
man Catholics the monopoly Of a second-rate article
Mr. Fawcett the Radical member for Brighton, whose
bin for solving the problem only favored by the
Radicals but also by Conservatives and by
Trinity College ITSELF made strong speech against the
Government measure
Mr. Fawcett asserted that the measure would make
the condition OF University education IN Ireland more
unsatisfactory than and would create worse evs
than with which IL meant to deal there was
no principle consistently carried out in tit was mere
compromise intended to please everybody but which
pleased nobody Against the abolition OF the
Queens University and the Galway College ne
protested warmly showing that the pohcy OF
Capitalization had failed in all foreign countries,
and warning the Scotch members that II they
helped carry the BILL their four universities would be
united in one before many years. Travelling through
the principal points Of the measure, Mr. Fawcet took
execution 70 the constitution OF the Governing Body
and asked on what principle the selection OF its men,
bers was 10 made-whether the qualification was 10
be academica distinction or balance OF religious oph
ions OF the "gaggng" clauses and the censorship OF
professional teaching Mr. Fawcett spoke with great Dit
terness; and speaking Cambridge professor he de-
cared that If such clauses were introduced into the
English universities he would not submit TO them In
closing his speech which remarkably forcibe one,
Mr.. Fawcett said
Both Catholics and Protestants now look back with
pleasure 10 their college career No friendships are se
college friendships formed in those days when our iee
ings are freshest and take kinder views, ana 0OK
with juster moderation ON religious dlerenees, i9u
cannot therefore, effect greater INJURY 10 society IN
Ireland than by putting this powerful weapon INTO the
those opposed 10 united educatlOb
Minister'S case rested on ms assuhpUon on, u ,nae
persons had grievance. We admit u; put IL requires
lar different remedy If this bill satisfied that grievance
might not be anxious to scTutinlze 700 mnu'e5 ts
provisions, but IL has not satisfied single class III ire
land. Never before bill condemned by such con
sensus. The Catholic Prelates repudnte IT, Inc ost9o-
lie students have repudiated with Indignation those sae
guards which the Prime Minister thought their CON
sciences required The Of Trinity College which
the Prime Minister SAID was in such state OF tradOh
10 the college, joined with the college IN protesting
against it. The Queens colleges ooJect 70 ls mann pro-
visions The home rulers say 1t affords conclusive proof
that an English Parliament knows not how TO govern
in lis favor the Magee College. There are many other
bt viii deer them until opportunity. wish,
however clear myself from one reproach The honor
able for Traee TO think tnat we VINO are
oppOsed to the bill the victims OF noPopery mania
We can however repudiate that because we have done
the English universities. IL is true they are yet ex.
cuded from some portions OF ana honor Dul
ernment who prevented those disabilities from
being struck away l know, TOO, that we snaa ,p pe
bill in Committee There Is fashion growing up among
20 treat the second reading as matter Of orn' ana
TO forget that ii is then the principle that decided In
politics there is nothing like clear ana lntrlnglDe
course and should have been glad II the DIVISION haa
been on the second reading instead Of the motion OF
the honorable member (Mr Bourkel approve OF tnat
motion, aud shall vote Tor u put nope 70 naee tne op
the bill We may be reminded bY some sagaclous pont-
that the rejection OF the reading lead TO
q Ministerial crisis. What does that meanf Either a
the Government or the dissolution 0i Par
lament III the former we that the or similar
men will after a time 10 those benches renSigor-
ated by their temporary retirement III dlss0lutlOD,
some Of MS NAV not return to this House but Will 1t not
be better never to enter this House again than TO
sanction which Will destroy an ancient ana
usrious University in order TO set up in Its place
cornorston created by political exgencies-a
which Will impose that Unverstys teachers cen
sorship which no man with grain OF independence
eonld submt to-a measure which will enforce the
perusal OF the events OF modern history anu he Iueas
OF the greatest writers OF the pasi In conclusion let me
uree the House not TO pass this b, which Will unsette
every thing and settle nOtbng when VIII destroy nuch
that is good and call into existence much that is bad
and In he
prove fatal to high mental culture"
The Marquis OF Harrington Chief Secretary for Ire
land, in speaking of the resolution OF MI Bourke, re-
peated that it was impossible TO name the Council at
that tme and derded the notion OF passing vote OF
censure on the Government, defeating the measure
on such pretext The Marquis in discussing BILL
said that the had adhered TO the great pn
cpe OF religious equality, and II had kept in view the
other princpesbat was the province OF auniversty
and not OF college, 10 grant degrees and impart the
higher branches OF educaton and that the University
should be entirely independent To this, the Marquis
said there were only two exceptions-the nominated
Council at the outset, and the exclusion OF certain
subjects from university education to the last the
Government did not hold 1t out ornament TO the
scheme but 1t had been put forward as one Of the in
dueernents TO the Roman Catholics TO accept the bill
He said there doubt the expressions OF opinion in
regard TO the bill not altogether favorable but he
denied that any condemnation had been passed on the
bill by the Ish people The ehef dheuity of the ques
ton Lord Harrington thought, proceeded from the ex
aggerated views taken by the different parties TO the
controversy; the Roman Catholics could not shake on
the impression that or later they would receive
endowment from the State, and Trinity College thought
ought TO retain the entire control OF university educs
ton in Ireland The Marquis then made these pointed
remarks in reference the action OF the Roman Cath
oics: - J., ..,, ,.o.., 4.
But the strongest and most influential objections 70
the bill are those Of the Roman Catholic preIates The
first objection Of the preates is TO the absence OF Roman
Catholc endowment, and the second 20 mixed educa-