New-York tribune., 1873-03-20

points which vas printed with Mr. Tremain's name ana
Mr. Hale's signed TO 1t. The prominent men VINO were
opposing the Erie bills behalf OF the DIRECTORS Oh inc
road wero Judge Selden Of Rochester, MT shearnan VI
New-York, Judge Ramsey, and also hr' Bemls' Ine
amount he received from tho Attorney-General was
$500; 1850 at the commencement and aiterw'rd Two
checks OF 81 900 each. Soon after the controversy IN e
Legislature, Mr. Tremain Sick Mr. southmayd "iu
not come Mr. Carter engaged in VIII case III Nc"-
York and the most Of the work fell ON Mr Hale lie AZ
tended nearly every meeting Of the judiciary ana I-
road Committees Of the Assembly.
MR.. SMITHS LEGAL SERVICES.
Mr.. Hale had doubt but that Mr. Smith would nave
been employed whether he was ia the Legislature OF
not When it was proposed to employ him. Cen Barlow
hesated on account of Mr.. Smith being IN the Assem-
bly,. IL was decided that his legal services were mpor
tant aud he not expected TO appear before any OF
the Committees Gen. Barlow stated that the reason
for employing Mr. Smith his familiarity with Erle
in other SUITE, and that all the proposed ator
neys knew the Erie crowd"
Mr. Hale was then examined by Mr.. Carpenter with
reference to the Of money IN the Legislature ana
stated that he did know Of any money being used
except in tho employment Of counsel He was told by
Barlow and sickes that tho English stockholders we're
willing spend money literally but no money for In
1uencing any legsatOn-not dollar was TO be used
for such purposes He had knowledge OF any money
spent by the Erie Railroad men. He had heard rumors
TO that effect but had knowledge TO facts. Mr.
Smith was employed or consulted in drafting any
legislative bills He did believe that Mr. Smith was
Influenced in the formation Of his committees by bis con-
necton with the suits. He did not believe that MT.
Smith intended to make them in favor OF the Enghsh
stockholders, and nothing said TO influence MT.
Smith IN his actions member Of the Legislature or
Speaker Of the House. The amount received by Mr..
Hale-SlOOOO-was paid by Mr.. Barlow and others, and
retained by him for his own II paid by the
BschoGsheim and Goldschmidt party and there an
additional paid him to be expended for incidental
expenses, such printing, stenoSraphc reporting, &C.
ERIE LOBBY
Mr.. Hale was questioned by Mr.. Carpenter as to the
persons known as the Third House" Uhe lobbysts),
who were supposed be busy in influencing legislation
the Erie Railway matters He stated, in reply that
the employed, If any, were not Of the class who
would be in contact with attorneys employed in the
cases. There was among them q gentleman from Cor
ning a Mr. Thompson, but he could scarcely be called
lobbyist People from the Erie Railway section Of
the State and were generally opposed in sympathy and
action, to the legislation against the Erie Company.
There was general local sympathy eXerted for tho
road Lucius Robinson was in Albany once in opposi-
ton. Judge Brooks was also here, and a gentleman
from Yates County, whom Mr. Halo knew, but whose
name he could not remember. The gentleman made q
speech against the BILL Mr.. Hale did not know many
names familiar him those Of lobbyists who were
engaged in working against the bill lie did hear Of
some but could not remember who they were. Mr. Hale
did not think that any members OF the thlfd house
Railroad. Cen Sharpe was in AlbfnT Bdt was 5ol1Tg
after evidence, and he was not lobbyist. Mr Good
gGh z AI.gs County, t9E-eEy member Of the Assem-
Mr. Hale knew Of working IN the inlerestsof the English
stockholders.