The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-03-18

hardly know what to think OF 1t. did not study
the first talk much, and this seems to be somewhat
different. l thought of the talk we had long
time ago, and thought this would be like it. My
heart was good then and l thought it would re-
main so forever. l would like to know why we
can't sleep and live here as we can in any place.
What talked first talk now. want these men to
come here and fix that thing up right away. did
not understand the last talk as l do now. l see
that there is difference in that and this talk My
heart told me there would be NO difference when
you come back What spoke about spoke from
my heart. thought the Commission would come
this time to talk with but now they want US to
GENE to them. thought everything was to be
wiped out, and we were to live as we did before.
want these men to come and see US, that we won't
have to go back and forward so often. am tired
OF 1t. These are all my people; have no other,
and they are like me; we talk with one mouth
don't know how 1t is l can't live here as was
when made peace here before. Iexpected to make
peace that way now. don't know how 1t is that
one man talks one way and another talks different.
One says it is all right, and you talk OF coming
here with soldiers The talk now Is just what 1t
was when 1t caused the bloodshed. never talked
or thought Of going away on, and Ii one of my men
should talk SO to You would send him away as q
bad man. Some bad men have been talking about
me; want 1t stopped.
MATILDA CHIDED FOR LYING
Why did Matilda tell us the soldiers were gone ?
My young men saw plenty of soldiers; want them
all to go away and leave US alone. did not
want Matilda to come here; why did she
not tell us about going away of She did not
want to tell us that and now it Is new
to me. 1t is just as 1 thought-the Oregon men
want to fight and the others do not. 1t is strange
that your Great Chief cannot rule all your people
alike. am not like the Oregonians; want every
thing wiped out; l have been staying around here
and am willing TO stay here; let them have that
side Of the lake and Will keep this side; don't
know OF any other country; don't want any but
this, and have nothing to say about another coun-
try. Why did they not tell me of this at first? Why
kill me If l stay? don't know anything about
another country; have no money with which to buy
a new country. This is my home; l was born here,
always lived here and don't want to leave here.
have heard great deal Of talk about moving
from here, and am afraid again, have DONE"
STEELE AGAIN ON HIS FEET. -~--..-.
Mr.. Steele t,,..cn said -T told you the first time
l talked with you that the Oregon men were SO
mad that they and the Modocs could not live In
peace when they and the Modocs were so close to.
gether. 1t would not last; there would soon be
fighting. Your people are few, and wanted them
to move to a warmer country where you would be
happy and safe, and tell you again want you to
go there. Your people will be safe and increase
and grow strong. Stay here, fight the soldiers and
you will be killed. II you make this treaty you
can sleep as soundly as l slept last night. The
people OF Oregon are under one CHIEF, those OF
California under another one wants war, the
other wants peace. One says kill all the Modocs
unless they give up these men and have these men
hanged; the others say mo-" and say NO." for
want you to go away from here and make peace.
These men want to hang Scar-faced Charley.
Hawker Jim and several others, and they will if
you stay here and fight the soldiers for they are
too many for your men. They want this done
the only condition on which they will make peace
with you. know that, living on the borders, you
cannot keep peace
MEETING JACK IN KIND.
The last time we talked you told me you wanted
to leave this place, that it bad place to live
In, that you did not want to live near the Ore.
gonians. That is different from what you talk
now The talk we had some time ago wrote to
the Big Chief He said 1t was good; he was pleased
with 1t. A little while after that you made another
treaty with Huntington-a different one. In that
paper you and your people said you wanted to go
on the Klamath Reservation. The Big Chief then
said these people did not like my talk, but had
sent another talk, saying they would go the
Reservation instead of living here. He then told
me was chief no longer He put in man whom
they understood better. Since then have been no
chief; only Modocs' friend l will 60 back to tell
the soldiers Chief about what you say to-day. My
heart Is sick about your talk. You want me to
trust you all the time, but you trust no one.
will 60 and tell them what you say, and
see what they will do. l don't know what
they will say or do about 1t. That is al''
sCHoNCHIN WANTS MORE LIGHT.
Schonchn then said :-T would like to live in
my own country. know the Oregonians are mad
at me; still hate to give up this land. don't see
why they want to take me away. did not start
first and want you to think of that. If my men had
fired the first shot would not say one word about
going away. But they did not. want to know
why they want to hang my men. I never told my
men to shoot. l know the soldiers shoot first. l
want you to think that all over"
MURpERERs MADE TO TREMBLE
Mr.. Steele then replied :-"When Schonchin's
brother, who is on the Reservation, talked with
Huntington, he sold him all this and-so the papers
say. He stays on the Reservation and keeps his
promises Captain Jacks party came away and
broke their promises. The Tyee sent soldiers to
bring them back, and that brought on the Tight.
The soldiers think the Indians fired first l don't
know, but l do know they killed Miller,
Brotherton and Boldly in cold blood alter the fight
was over, and their best friends, too This is what
made the Linkville men mad at the Modocs. These
men were at Linkville the day before the fight, and
the people did not tell them the soldiers were COM
ing, because they knew these men were your
friends and would tell you Of it. You then muir
dered them, and that Is why these Linkville people
wish to hang these Indians. The oregon Chief
thinks It right to hang them. thought at first that
some mistake had been made and that all might be
washed out. But know now that to make sure
peace, you must go away, and that Is why advise
my friends to make this treaty. If your hearts were
good as mine you would go this little way talk
with these men and arrange this thing. Your men
went with me and came back safe. | premise you
to bring you back sale; II you go you shall be
equally safe."
ARE THE SOLDIERS MAD, T0Op
Schonchin replied: FL thought the talk the other
day settled everything, buried and wiped all out.
What said then say now. want to quit and live
as we did before / want 10 know who will come
here and Kill me when am asleep. Your talk Is so
different don't understand 1t. You talk OF the
soldiers coming. Are they mad too, because I want