The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-04-22

speaking IN nlRn Terms OF Geueral BarlOW'S
expressions OF disparagement OF his char
acter, and IL was suggested that q resolution
from Barlow be entered on the books touching the
matter, in which he said it was wrong to charge
bursed for the company; l have no recollection OF
any conversation with Mr.. Sherman In REFER
ence to
GENERAL BARLow's FEES;
! have no recollection OF any one suggesting that
should pay him lee OF $4,000.
TO General BarlOw-I never in my recollection
had any communication with you; may have
spoken to you years ago; the letter from General
him was used or dsbarse s o or expenses FOR
stockholders was received by me, and was placed
on file In the records OF the Board
Mr.. Shearman's testimony In regard to the sug-
gestion OF giving q retainer to General Barlow,
was read to the witness ana he denied any recol-
lection OF its having been made to him.
MR.. CHARLES II. TWEED,
lawyer, associate counsel Tor Messrs southmayd
time Of his suit against Gould Lane for an &C
counting, MT. Southmayd, OF our office, handed me
this letter, which he had just received from Mr..
orncE OF Barlow H!Ar1 o5EsH}
NY prA. srn-some one from Gould i coming 70 see
me tins eve ITO give me some valuable information
have an idea 1t may be some release given by the
i%s
Mr.. southmayd desired me to go to Mr. Barlow's
house: went there; Mr.. Hays and Mr.. Belden
came in; Mr.. Barlow was at home; Mr.. Hays intro
duced Mr.. Belden to Mr. Barlow, saying that he
was authorized to represent Mr.; Gould; Mr.; Bel.
on the treet told
consuming three quarters Of an hour In relation
OF his connection with Gould and efforts the latter
was then e making to recover moneys and stocks
den said that they were in position to show to
General Barlow that no reliance could be placed
upon any statement OF GordOn's; they made their
statements apparently on superstition that South
mayd was moved to this suit BY GOrdon think that
General Barlow did not deny their assumption but
plainly indicated that he thought the conversation
OF no Importance, and II he required any informa-
tion about Gordon he said he would let them know;
think that those were the only other points ofin
pOrtance in the interview.
General Barlow here said that he wished to say
that the suit referred to was begun at Mr. South
mayd's request and stopped at his request only.
MIR. SIMON STEVENS,
was naxt examined IN relatinn 70 atements maGe
by him or in his presence in relation to General
Barlow. and when David Dudley Field and Mr.
Sherman were PRESENT. was in Mr.. Fields
office few days ago, and Field, in jocular way,
asked II had not seen
A LETTER ON GENERAL sICKLEs' TABLE.
purporting to come from General Barlow, and de-
mandng $780, 600 for services to the Erie Companya
certain letters on his table but never said What
saw in them; General Sckles employed me to
make up the accounts. and told me some Of the
General Barlow OF money disbursed by him.
Q. Did you see such letter as that referred to
not say anything about any letters that saw
there; there were several letters endorsed on the
back as coming from General s tS, Barlow do not re-
no statement IN General Barlow's letter which
/ read about payment for his services
ment of the other counsel; l don't know
that General Barlow ever made any claim
for services rendered; General Sickles asked me
examine the letters: said did not care TO;
afterwards heard that one of those letters con-
BY James G. Carter, counsel for General Barlow
Did you read any portion of any OF those letters
other than the one you read entireyY A. My i'm
preston is that did.
Q. Was there an expression Of any claim for
money for services renderedY A. think that there
was suggestion or intimation that he ought to be
paid ST. GOO more, and that he needed 1000 in all
have an indistinct recollection that at the time
had before me his vouchers for $4,000.
The witness was shown letter which had been
published in the papers; he thought it could not be
the one which he saw, as 1t was about Tuesday or
Wednesday previous to its date that he made up
the accounts: the one referred to contained the
Hale had 81, 500 and Mr.. Smith had 81 800.
TO Mr.. Stickney-I was foreman OF the Grand
Jury and received letter asking me to 60 over to
Peckham had not received half Of the $4,000 paid
to General Barlow; decline to state by whom it
Grand Juror; have destroyed the letter.
MR.. GEORGE CROUCH
his connection with the English stockholders OF the
Erie Company. When Fisk discovered that Gould
intended to get rid OF him he made Crouch
the proposition to work for him against
Gould on the other side; he went over
to London and while there arranging matters
holders that the quickest way to get rid of Gould
was TO buy his expulsion; proposition was then
ana inc enened o ne
tions with Lane, and Crouch started Tor this side;
before he left. Biscnofrshem and Goldschmidt
told i'm hah nfnin Ad H1aos
their service, who had represented to them that
ne had great influence at Albany; they said that
heard from nin as he had been over here good
while, and they wanted Crouch to see him, to
reveal to HIM the new plan Of operations
ance. When he arrived here the Legislature had
taken its recess. He asked the directors OF the
Erie Company II they were willing to resign their
places. Others were willing to 40 so for the sake
or ousting Gould; others represented that they
would incur some loss by being compelled to such
q course. The witness then continued as folows:-
teegraphed for Sickles. and met him in the Of
nee; tod him how anxious the stockholders were
accomplished anything: he answered that he had
been in Albany, and
assembled everything would be ready for the work.
use to us, and told him what had already been done,
On his pledge OF secrecy, revealed to him the new
project, and introduced him to some OF the men,
bers OF the old Board. Some Of them did not care
about trusting him in the matter. Sickles
made arrangements to pay the others for their
designations on the condition that Bischoffshem
4 G0dschmidt should have the nominating OF
the new Board. The moving spirit Of the whole
thing was James McIenry. Sickles teegraphed
him that so much money would be necessary, and
Bischoffsheim Goldschmidt furnished 1t. 1t was
distributed by General Sickes.
McHenrys object in making this movement was
to benefit the Atlantic and Great Western Railroad.
He first had come over and leased the Atlantic and
Great western to the Erie COMPANY, and then he
discovered that 1t was being plundered worse than
everft had been before. Bischonsheim Gould
were largely interested in Atlantic and Great
Western, and also In Erie. combination was
MADE between the Atlantic and Great
Western and the Erie stockholders. In order
to benefit the Atlantic aud Great Western
McHenry that he first OF all must get Mr.. Gould
out Of the Erie management Mr.. McHenry makes