, 1873-02-17

Governments had received money to pay for dam-
agos for which Great Britain WIS responsible,
and sd te9 Es.d Il for other The
tlnn all tho money. Whon tho Courts had do
terrninod tho question tho world would be satia-
fed.
n1r. KERR also opposed tho bill. 1to yas not
wiling to follow hia rreJutlioos Or .d!siikes
He would say with tho utmost eincority that llo
had clitorca on tho Investigation Of tho subjoet
with tho aottlcd and deliberate determination,
II possible, o., correct and honoat gronnds, to
~ favor OF tho other olasBos OF citizona, md Of
tho TFoaHury. but he would not do 30 much
violcnco to lta Judgment and conscience as to
give veto which would, In hiH Judgment Violate
law. Tlorc waa an element Of cupidlty IN tho
bill. He argued that It should not DO in lta
present form pasacd. Ho vory greatly preferred
tho proposition Of tho gentleman from Vermont
goland) to submit tho distribution to tho
liz. VOORHEES,. n mombor Of tho Com
mittee, supported the bill, and replied to the
arguments OF MoBsrs. Beck and Horr. There
Was ~ e9S ts ~ resSo 90 to a Hp
insuranco companies. According to thon, the
innuranco conpAnios must bo looked to with
awe. II not, then England must bo looked to
with 1eapoot and awo eocanso that aoyernncnt
applying tho money in the way It WAS intended
to 1o paid. A more degrading idea had mover
ontorod into consideration In regard to the
foreign. policy Of this country. Tho distrfbu-
American Government. A moro alamoloas md
degrading idca had never boon advanced in tho
House of Representatives % that a foreign
power should follow hers and toll tho
t should do y with iii ito sa own people people, "si and
its own funds. It was not only abaurl.
but It had boon retntod by the instructions Of
a nit o neR fHsas s s s t. hs ns g.
England, as TO what Should be. tIone With . ain
glo dollar Of tho money. Whenover ho GOULD aeo.
hts way plain in sottling up the dreadful results
further eccrotlonB Of enormons y T.vosaitb, and
agai1lst furthor speculation On tho side Of
already bloated fortunes, but on tho side Of tho
equities Of the poor, who wore not powerfully
represented, he shoald certainly be found
Mr.. BUTLER (A1asa:) closed tho dobato in
support Of the bill, az reported by him. He ar
gued that Mr.. Polands proposition VAS wholly
inapplienblo, and would-.loaye without any rome;
to ate IN the tribunals provided therein. Ho de-
Tended tho provision of tho bill regarding tho In
Buranco companies, and stated that tue whole
theory Of insurance waB that tho premiums paid
the losses. The fact In this case WaB that tho in
aurance companies paid a little over &
millions, and had received as war premiums
little over six millions. Not moro than two
thirda Of tho WAT premiums had yot como in. As
body, had mado . million dollars Of profit. He
thought thoy hnd made two and q half Or three
millions, yet 1t vas proposed to lot them partici-
patio In this distribution. Some mon called that
equity and tustiee, bus 10 know whore tho gen
on tho subject. Ho had Soon him accompany
tho attorney of tho insurance companies, Mr..
Evarta, into the Committeeman Of the judiciary
Committee, and liaten to his argument.
Mr.. KERR langrily)-rho gentloman's state
Mr. DUTLER-were you not there ?
Mr.. KERR-Yes, but did not accompany tho
attorney, rs tho gentleman etateB.
Mr. BUILEn-The difference is this You
were there ouly ut that timo and at no other
time.
Mr.KERR--I had tho right to 60 there under
tho courtesy of tho Committee, to Listen to tho
argument. I went there, but accompanied
nobody tho5e, except tho gentlemun from Kon-
III. hUTLER-we1l That is tho koy.note Of
the gentlemanB argument.
Mr.. KERR-It is not true.
Mr.. BUTLER-I did not SEQ tho gentleman
there afterwards, md simply saying that ''it is
not true" docs not alter tho matter at all, when
tho fact stated ia true. Nov, am aware TINT
1t was tho agent Of tho United States at Geneva,
tho paid attorney Of the United States, who
camo before the Committee and aaid he was the
he was agent Of tbs United statcs. He wont to
Genoya "a tho retained council Of tho insurance
companies. He came before the Committee and
panies. Ho las boon on this floor, arguing the
cane, with what results VIC haye seen, butnot to
change tho vote Of any honest man, in my judg-
ment, who has heard both sidcB. Perhaps ho
sy haaT nnv ana adn ine
Mr.. KERR--Will the gentleman lot me ask
him ono question
Mr.. DUILER-I cannot,
Mr. KERR-A1y question is whether tho gem
tleman hi1naolf IL not the hirod attorney Of the
other claimanta. -. ~,
Mr. BUTLER-Noy Bir.
Mr.. Kerr KEMRmI hare henrd It atatod that he ie.
ar. @n0ILEH-IAhtl @ Is t9!se.s
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