The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-14

and II So what was the substance of that CONVEX
sationf A remember we had some conversation
about Clark at the first interview with POmeroy,
and also at a subsequent interview.
AZ TINS time everything was going on lovely.
were smoking, and York was le1ning back In
chair with his hands casped behind his head and
his feet on the table.
In general terms OF Mr.. Clark having come to To-
peka as Mr. Pomeroy's friend, and generally In ref
view he e. admitted having seem se Mr. carS at Fits
burg and that he there paid him 500 as payment
for expenses and time In meeting him at Pittsburg;
on Sunday morning, l think, Mr. Clark expressed
his willingness to make an AFFIDAVIT OF the facts to
be given TO the public; dio not see Mr.. Clark my
Senator Johnson and ooonel Booa Of Lawrsnee,
at which time he read 10 us the afldavit he has
sworn to and which has since been published;
that was also before the canvass, but on the same
night OF my last Interview with Pomeroy, and the
conversation we there mad resulted in the expo
Ing paid Mr.. Clark the $1,000 said to have been
pajdhim for claiming to have written that letter.
The committee took recess for dinner.
AFTER RECESS
the examination was continued as foll0ws:-
Q Now, Colonel you may state when and where
you had your next interview with Mr.. Pomeroy. II
Pomeroy on Monday evening, January ~. In his
private room.
know OF money or other corrupt means being used
by Senator Pcmeroy. or other parties In his be.
6a to secure ms Reelection to the United States
, Mr.. Y0rk-May ask that you SO extend that
question as to Inquire OF me what led me first to
believe that Mr.. Pomeroy was using money cor
The committee SO extended the scope Of the
A. Unti saturday night, January rs, 1 had OBJ
served nothing to induce me to believe that Mr..
Pomeroy was using money In buying votes, and
Simpson and others that did not believe Mr.. Pom
eroy would hazard the risk Of SO using money in
claiming so much public attention; that night
was convinced that
MR. PoMRR0Y HAD DETERMINED TO USE MONEY
from three circumstances. The first was, observed
that Mr.. Pomeroy's headquarters were nearly de-
serted during that evening, whereas before they
circumstance was that l was told that Repre-
sentatives I. b. Eldridge and 1. s. Kalloch
mao , eaSn sa Geen seen eHe 70 nave so4o drat
the result, and the third circumstance was that
late in the evening heard MIR. Billings, member
OF the House, In the barr0Om OF the Tent House,
Pomeroy, and assert repeatedly that Mr. PomeroYs
3. i. Simpsons room. and, after locking the door,
told him that was convinced that we had now to
aSa a q s Linn my
given, and that could not account for
Mr.; Pomeroys headqua ,,, being compare
test was the hottest upon any other
hypothesis than that 1t was done SO as to afford
unnoticed; that the tact, II true OF Major Eldrldge
and |, s Kalloch having each 4 $1,000 draft, and
purpose OF betting, thought, could bear but one
true interpretation-frst, that 1t had been given
them for their support BY Mr., Pomeroy, which
P Pomeroy was using using money N that way he
would not give drafts. but currency, and that
the other and more reasonable interpretatio
was that they were showing those drafts
to demoraliZe the Legislature by way OF
intmatlon that money was to be had; and,
self until lie had been charged with some offence
unless he was consciously guilty; Mr.. Simpson,
after he had listened to my reasons, said "IorK,
you are right;
WE HAVE GOT GREENBAcKs TO FIGHT
from this time forward" that night was the first
dertake to buy votes with money it had frequently
been spoken Of in our private meetings, and l
thin, think previous to that time some one be;
suggested testing Mr.. Pomeroy, and, If it
was true that he was buying votes, expose
rousy considered by the ant-Pomeroy men, to
my knowledge; that night was for the first time
really discouraged, and MI. Simpson and both
thought il our conjectures were true there was no
hope OF defeating Mr.. PomerOy unless we could
detect and expose him; had that night been re-
interview with him (Hairgrove) On the next day
Sunday, and, from that and the Invitations had
previously had to visit Mr. Pomeroy, both Mr. Simp
son ana myself believed Mr.. Pomeroy was
anxious to obtain my support. and II he was
paying money to any one, might seek to gain my
propriety of my awaiting myself OF such an oppor.
tunity, If offered, to expose him. but did not arrive
at any definite a conclpgsion l. dd not have the
day; on Monday received from Mr.. Pomeroy,
through M. Hairgrove, an invitation to have
private business interview with Mr.. PomerOy: I
immediately went TO Mr. Simpson and requested
him to get Senator Johnson and j. G. Horton in his
room as soon as possible, as had something to
communicate; Mr.. Horton was at supper at that
time, and should Say 1t was about seven O'Clock
alter Mr. Horton came rom supper we all came
into Mr.. simpsons room in the Tefrt House, and,
alter locking the door, told them had inst been
invited to hold
PRIVATE BUSINESS INTERVIEW
with Mr.. Pomeroy that night; we all placed the
same Interpretation on it-that If accepted should
be offered money for my vote; 1t was unanimously
offered money by Mr.. P0meroy, take 1t ana expose
him upon the floor Of the joint convention; that it
was tine only way to him and his
and ascertained that | had $40 in currency and a
certificate OF deposit for 500 on the Kansas Valley
there was no hour fixed when
s sSSs Ss ae Mr. ha% y bug thine
senator Moonlight or Mr.. Horton, | cannot say
positively which one. told me that Colonel Blood
site the Fifth Avenue Hotel and see Mr. Edward ward
Clark, and that senator Johnson had already gone
there; went immediately, and met Mr.. Clark,
he Clark read to us the .afndavit that has since
been published in the Daily commonwealth and
receipt for, think, $500 sent away by him. alleged
by him to have been received from Mr. Pomeroy for
signing that letter that he tMr Pomeroy) had read
to me. and said that he Clark would 20 before
THE ANTIPOMEROY CAUCUS
that night and make the same statement there
which he did; before he Clark had finished read
ing his statement In the caucus asked Senator
Johnson II 1t would not be best for me to 20 and
see what Mr. Pomeroy had to say before he re.
ceived intelligence of Mr.. Clarks disclosures aud
he thought best that should do so; l accordingly
left the caucus and went direct to Mr.. Pomeroy's
rooms; remember seeing Mr.. Shimmonds, OF the
Lawrence Tribune, in the han near Mr.. Pomeroy's
rooms and requested him to ascertain whether
Mr.. Pomeroy was at liberty; he went into Mr.
Pomeroys room while l remained near
the door in the hall; he came out and
told me Mr. PomerOy would be at liberty very
soon, and that Colonel Martin lof the Atchison
would .'wnk' to me when to enter;
presently Colonel Martin came TO the door and
nodded for me to come in; passed through the
first room into the room in rear Of the same-Mr.
private room: i should say that was
somewhere between hatpast eight and halEpast
ten O'Clock AZ night; Mr.. Pomeroy was IN the ROOM
and We had considerable talk OF o general nature
nkxnv.k thn