The Democratic press. [volume] (Ravenna, O. [Ohio]) 1868-1901, 1873-10-09
8REECH OF
Hon. Allen G. Thurman j
DELIVERED AT
O., September 25th.
The Indiana Bushwhacker
Demolished.

Ohio, On the 25th ault. On being in
4 troduced he spoke, as follows -, s.
Mr.. CHAIRMAN AND FELLoy-o TT
zENs Before Colonel Cockerill pro
lbceetls to discuss the questfons oupoi
which he proposes to speak te2day,a
shall beg your indulgence for g. brie
1lspace to notice controversy that ehai
1ibeen going on for. some time between
Senator Morton, of Indiana, end my
llseIf. in reference to his course in tht
increase of the salaries of Senators ant
/ iiMembers of &yongress. < How this con,
troversy arose il is not material Il
consider. Suffice il to say that Sena
tor Morton opened the Republican
canpaizn this year in q speech q
Athens, in which be eiaifned that tht
salary increase was not a party quesl
ton, and seemed disposed to wash his
hands of responsibility for it, In my
speech at WaVerly, on the I'd of thi;
1 month, I took occasion to say that The
+ effect of the course pursued by the
/ Senator upon the salary bill was to
increase the pay OF congressman. ]
called attention to the fact that he
| had voted against motion introduced
/ by Senator Edmunds, of Vermont, to
strike out all the salary amendment
except what related to the salary OF
the President; and ], said that, in my
| Judgment, that was test vote. On
the I1th of this month, at Dayton,
Senator Morton replied to my Waver-
~ speech, and complained that / had
done him injustice that l had not
stated that after voting against Ed
munds' motion, above referred to, he
had himself moved to strike out from
the bill allithat related to Congress
ional pay; and he went on to say that
he withdrew that motion at the in-
stance of number of Senators, and
that his memory was distinct thai /
was one of those who made the re-
quest. On the 10Th of this month l
spoke at Batavia, and replied to what
Morton had said at Dayton on this
subject, and denied, as now deny,
that / ever requested himto withdraw
his motion, and showed that his speech
instead of giving strength to his mo-
ton, was calculated to defeat it.
then said that the only reasons that
he gave in snppertof his motion, were,
in effect, that the proposed salary of
$500 was not enough, and that he
preferred 10 leave the question to
some future session of Congress ;Nand
proved this ASSERTION, by his speech
and also by a coloquY between him
and Senator Carpenter-referring to
the Congressional Globe, page 2,047,
where the speech and eoloquy are
found. Ina card of Senator Morton.
which appeared in the Cincinnati Ga
zette and Commercial of Tuesday last
he charges me with garbling and mu-
tilation, becatse did not givera dia-
logue between him and Senator Hill !;
and says: "Senator Thurman in his
quotations. stopped short and cut out
the passage that soou1d haze utterly
cOntTadicted the impression he -aGdS
seeking to make. A worse case of
'garbIing and mutilation could not be
found. 50 s ACE aHf ae4
Now, my friends, in order that you
may see whether there was any such
garbling and mutilation, and whether
the Dialogue between Morton and
Hill would have contradicted the inn
preston made by Morton's speech. I
give you the whole dialogue :lsa. 3ssl .
.sMr. Hill--AlloW me to make
suggestion to the Senator from Indi-
ana, and that is that he move to strike
out the amount named in the House
amendment and insert an amount that
he thinks would be respects bIe-say
seven thousand i've hundred, or some-
thing like that.sili ss4 4saf.ll5.l i.a.efs
g Mr. MOrton---1 do not wish to vote
upon the salarieso members of Com
gress at this, session at all. do not
think it is a good time to consider the
questlSn. .mAs6gH .ssfe haE ssGs14
" Mr.. LoganvThen do not let us
consider any Of them. 81 alts5.s q
Mr.. Morton5h, yes; 4 hope we
shall increasefthe salary of the Presi-
dent anyhow. If that is not done
now it cannot be done for four years
under the Constitution, but we can
act with regard to the rest of them at
the next session. of Congress. safsf
Mr.. Hill-W Would it be in order /
Inquire OF the Chair, to move to amend
the amendment offered by the Senator
from Indiana 2.raaaA ~ go. -
The VlcerPresident--It would be. !
Mr. Hill-TI propose to amend it |
by inserting in lieu, of $500, $500.
The Vice President-The Senator
from Indiana has moved to amend |
the House amendment. If his motion /
should prevail to strike out the Sena-
tors and Representatives increased |
92ArA IAAC kCOAAes ~ OOA S1a41
then move to add Senators, Repre- |
sentatiVes, and Delegates at any salary /
be may see fit to propose. ~ -. - i
" Mr. Hill-Yery vel, sir. i,slI
/" Mr.. Cameron-Mr. President, it |
seems to me that the argument of my,
friend from Indiana is not logical He /
says he viii not increase the salaries
tsAi.a ~ zforrt+o,,. sSaIid fo, NOM he,..,i
Of Congress, .8l aaI8s .s.55igsx..
Now, so far from contradicting the
that Morton was in favor
IF an increrse of salaries, and only /
objected to its being done at, the last
session of Congress, this dialogue di-
,ectly proves both these facts. When
Hill ,hsuggested to him to move
% raise the salary ft9i S7,5Cl, he
made no objection to the, proposed
amount. His lsole objection was to +
it at that session OF Con-
election, that was fully
stated in his speech which read at
Batagia and also was stated by me as
having been made by him. His charge,
of mutilating and garbling
s not only unfounded, but is con-
But as he has seen fit to
charge me with misrepresenting his +
position, have looked little further /
into the record, and |. will now clinch /
this business by q record that even his /
dare not deny, On the, 23d |
day of January last, the Appropria-
ton Bill, No. 2.99l being under con-
in the Senate, the follow |
ing proceedings took place: SSH
"Mr. Hill--I gave. notice yesterday |
that 1 would offer an amendment.
'sMr. Morrill,. of Maine--Will the
Senator allow. me TO propose one |
amendment 2ItHs-te IS mans ..'f.'
Mr.. Hill-Ii should with great
pleasure, but l have been waiting for
an houra and you can do that as well |
Ilhave been long trying
to get the floor. Is fsaa,5..' =. .#ifl.
Mr., Morrill,, of Maine---It, is sim
ply to perfect section.l oyf, 9f-nU
"Mr. Hill Very well, give way if
it is merely for verbal correction,