New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-10-10

ImDer1dne MdJesds, IL IN not ltStIl,
nut the Reformation changed all this, and much for
the better. All the Reorners and Their followers recog-
nEed the State accordance with the teaching of St
Paul orfndtto Del The Protestant conception on
the State and IT'S rights and duties thus differ entirely
from that OF the Romanists. In this Luther, Twinge
and Calvin agree and II their followers OF later period
go somewhat different directions the reason IL found
not In difference Of principles but Of circumstances
Circumstances which be easily explained
formation to be soon stopped IN the Of Europe,
and circumstances caused the opposite IN the west or
the Pauline ideas the Reforners 20 the State and
its duties. Among them, also, there were scholars
are in high estimation Aud the of all WERE that
the for its citizens that civil liberty ~
these principles and held especially the State must
have privileged classes Thus in 1887 just before the
Compelled the Prince of Navarro afterward Henry the
Ivth Of France. 10 make the whole army pubic con-
mtted at La Rochelle The hostility also OF wan SO
ant 70 ne h fendshp of Francis
the LIST bitter hostility But even here amid these
advanced opinions and practices, about civil liberty
religious federation was unknown.
In the Countries the contest against the cy ana
religious tyranny OF Spain just the upholding Of
these principles OF the Reformation IL was demand
for Government-an ordinattO Det-which respected
here these principles triumphed civil liberty tri-
umphed, religious liberty triumphed The Low
some measure ChristS law Of federation Erasmus OF
Rotterdam had before written TO Sir Thomas More that
better use could be made OF hereto than 10 bnrn
him hut with his weak character these truthful words
were nothing but sentiment But with his conntrymen
who fought and bled for freedom they were hoy pri-
ciple learned from Christ and by praccing them IN
even the they did the Hoander has the honor
OF leading the van OF the army OF Christ. -
And So too in England and Scotland the real progress
in civil liberty and federation has been the product OF
where borrowed the force OF political ideas from the
PrOtestants of the sixteenth century, though IL mas near
IN Conclusion permit me to say that civil and relig-
ions liberty is the lesson OF Christianity so IL can Dc
Gained and secured by Christianity alone. The noble
horn that state alone WnObt
become the freedmen OF Christ and then Tor CHRIST
sske love their neighbor as themselves. No FORM OF
government affords absolute guarantee Tor hOerty
and no constitution VIII be a safeguard asAns'
corrnpton That State alone has the assurance OF per-
manence whose citizens Chrlsts freedmen, are conse-
Grated into the mastery OF self, ana the love Oh one
Cbpst's spirit IN the heart shall corresponding
love of man. a1d larger and more benign De eIophen
6sva no advancement, but retrogressiOn. l close
with the words OF Johann Won Miller: :" The GospeI
ia the fulhllment OF all hope, the perfection OF All
PHILOSOPHY the interpreter of all revolutions the Key 10
All the seeming contradictions ot the pDyscal ana
world il is life; 1t is Immortality Since have known
the Saviour everything Is oear-Wlth Nun there Is hull
ing cannot soiVe.'
The next paper the same subject was to have been
delivered by the Hon. j. L. NJ. Curry, LII d., Richmond,
Va but the speaker had read nearly the whole OF his
diseourse when il was notified to him by the tnkng OF
the bell that the 80 minutes time allowed to speakers had
expired whereupon he stopped abruptly In the middle
of sentence retired his seat, and refused again to
come forward notwithstanding the audience, by their
long and continued applause and cries OF TO on uu
mistakably showed that they wished him to contnne
his address This applause which had continued sew
era minutes eventually stopped by the appearance
of the presiding officer in front OF the PLATFORM de
said
should wish 10 know II the audience want the pro
lopgation of this discussion. If you do it will leave
deep and abiding wounds felt there was not Ded III
his address full recOg milton OF the implied limitations
under which we have assembled. i have, Therefore,
contented myself by notifying him that his time mad
cnhrn xVha
tan that this discussion should be further prolonged in
the line which 1t has thus far taken. tApplauseJ
At the conclusion of the Presidents remarks. the Hon.
Mr. Curry who was received with great applause, said
Twill solve the problem of courtesy by yielding to the
Limitation which has been properly imposed, win the
most earnest and emphatic protest against the Implied
or upchristan. fApplause.l shall not 20 on. was
discussing principle The SUBJECT was assigned 10 me
State and have been most careful, thought, 10
confne my self simply 10 the discussion Of the principle
had only arguments TO make, one that IL was
an Injustice the other denominations. and secondly
going TO engage In an argument 10 SNOW what what
TO the satisfaction Of the Chairman, should he
differ from me, that it is unscriptural lAppauseI
The President again stepped forward, amid eonSdera
bic disturbance and cries Of Curry, curry" when
quiet was restored, he said:
Let IA remember that we are American Christians l
hold convictions which have been assented TO by the
American love those truths, and at the proper
place will take great pleasure IN their propagation but
Ike 10 think 100 tnat we are DOunu, anu Douuu
by the rules Of Christian courtesy. You VIII take my
word for it-wOnt youl-that have already been In
formed by one OF the brethren from abroad that this line
OF discussion is painful, deeply painful DO not invite
your guests then, dear friends to the proongaon OF
discussion which wounds and greves them. Certainly
we will show rs Americans that when we invite u
stranger 10 US remember all the obligations OF
just courtesy. lAppauseI
At this stage the Hon. Mr. Curry advanced few steps
as II about to reply, but did not do the President
without pause, having continued hs address by ask
ing the congregation TO sing the hymn, Jesus shall
reign whereer the does his successive journeys rum
Immediately Mr.. Curry put his oyercoat and while
the hymn was being sung deliberately and determedy
walked the platform, and down the aisle to the front
door, accompanied by many gentlemen who deeply sym
pathized with him, and warmly congratulated him on
the excellence Of his discourse, which appendedn full