New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1873-04-02

trail and the Erie Railroad for carrying oil ~ %
rates the prococds be divided in fixed sc
tween the COMPANIES twas never carried ipy a.
aud il il had been would have been beneoai 70 ne
Rawsy wa, designed s Sr onSys ps 70 Henry
sherwood and others published yeseraS u vas for
Ss know
nature did not know who the persons M On AIsany
the money paid saw Mr. pnicner wn me there
do MT know that ever met Van VeShteh cartaipv
special memory of signing the ,e have used the
words "lobbyng purposes" instead on ffhad dont
poses !" am 50 green about inc ha''oi ' w.
know what lobbying means
TESTIMONY OF II. 7. ANTEAs,
Henry T. Anteas testified am in charge OF the East
ern delivery OF freight for the Eric railway nave
been employed in the Bureau OF Records IN Mr. flSKs
private Office and IN the Auditors ONCE M DookKeeper
have known OF payments for legal services nave
seen the vouchers for payments TO Mr. Barbour Mr. Van
Vechten aud Mr. Tweed; my knowledge Is derived from
the notorious fact that money was paid on such vouch
ers the first money paid Mr.. Tweed was in October
The voucher paid in four notes, at TO-
90 So and 30 days for 50 do not know what 1t was
for the next for sO0 at the time OF the Fenian
raid the next voucher about $4,000 in 1862 at the
time OF the Rochester Convention; the next year, 1870
there was payment of the amount $4,000, for
tickets from New. York to Rochester; that would be
enough for 500 persons at each way the last youch
or was for S. OOO just before Mr. Fisk killed. sup
legal vouchers in 1871 amounted TO over 100000 during
the whole period, Mr. Tweed got great deal OF money
think 81 900 would be out OF the way have
never seen Mr.. Bar0ours name on voucher unth the
TESTIMONY OF SIMON STEVENS.
Simon Stevens testified never conversed with Gen.
Sckles reference the revolution in the Ere Board
until March p, ls72-tho day after the change; Gen.
Sckes asked to the legal position OF Mr. Gouldi
said that his position was legal one, but that he ought
TO resign. and would probably do so II the mat
ter were properly represented TO him; Gen.
Sckes wished me TO negotiate with MIR. Gould 70
bring about that result, and after consulting win
counsel Mr.. Gould aoceded to the demand received
s. 800 for my services Mr.. Gould was to have a
complete release from all obligations met Gen. sckes
time aferward in Washington, and at his request
made out statement of accounts by which ne was 70
receive sos COO Gen Sckes thought, in addition 10 the
financial benefits 10 be derived from Erie, that tnere
would be political benefits; he thought the reOrganhed
Board would control the General Governments Gen.
Sickles came over TO America Tor other Dur,
think that he did not have the Erie project in
his mind until he met Bischofshelm in Parls
after he had obtained leave of absence from the Gov
ernnent do not know what amount OF money Gen.
sckes received he asked me what ne ought 70 enarge
10 charge; heard him say that he expected TO DO
United states Senator don't know tast ne aimed
ers VIM. Z. Chandler is lawyer IN washington, Tor.
mery connected with the Treasury Department don't
l was offered 100000 IN London by members
Of fSf giving SSd oonfS
Of Erie: told them was not In that business they
had heard fabulous stories OF private fortunes mace out
of Erie and wanted get their friends IN do not Bn0w
that the directors were nominated by Blschons-
helm q Co.; think that most OF them were named Dy
Gould himself do not think that the Erie Company Is
responsible for the money expended by BlschoHshelm
Co.. IL expended TO give them control oil the ROAD
for their own private end5.
TESTIMONY OF II. 7. ANTEAs.
(Reoalkd)
Henry T. Anteas recalled, and produced an alb
stract of vouchers paid by the Erie Company for legal
services during 1869 and the first six months Of
1871 He testified: These do not include all OF the ex
penses hut only those which recorded 1t was the
impression that the money paid for legal services to
Henry Sherwood and others for political purposes
do not know what the charge of for carriage hire
and services by James Fisk jr is for heard OF large
amount of coal distributed among the poor by VIM NJ
Tweed understood that 1t was furnished by the
Erie Railway in payment for legal services
instructed 70 prepare an abstract OF
all the vouchers, showing all the money paid TO each
person during the peEsOd covered by the vouchers.
TESTIMONY OF P. II. WATSON
President Watson, being recalled, testified that Mr.
Hennessy did not take charge Of the voucher depart
ment until May, 1872, and some else guilty Of the
caressness which he had spoken IN former evidence
The witness furnished list OF the stocks. bonds prop
erty &C., refunded BY Mr.. Gould. amounting TO over
statement OF the earnings and expenses Of the Erie
BE testified: have no doubt that II our plans
carried out road will pay per cent on all Its stock
If it understood that she prOhts OF tho road were
not to be divided, but Bwere to be devoted 10 the i'm
Droyemep of the road IL would greatly deprecate the
ring VINO were nT1 REORGANIZATION and have been unable
10 find that any has been frauduenty Issued;
sold very low but all Is In the hands Oh bona
hd6 holders.