The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-02-16

the tribunals provided therein. He defended the
provision OF the bill in regard to the insurance
surance was that the premiums paid the losses.
| The fact in this case was that the insurance
i ions and nad received T as war ' premiums
| little over six Millions and not more than
twothrds OF the war premiums mad yet come
| as body had made million dollars of profit, and
| he thought they had made two and half or three
| Millions and yet it was proposed to let them par.
ticipate in this distributions; and some men calico
that equity and justice. But he knew where the
| gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Kerr had got his
| notions on the subject. He had seen him accom-
pany the attorney OF the insurance companies,
Mr.. Evarts, into the committee room OF the Ju-
| dietary Committee and listen to his argument
MR.. KERR IN RAGE.
Mr.. KERR (angrilyl-The genteman's statement
Mr.. BUTLER-were you not there'
Mr.. KERR-Yes but did not accompany the at
| torney. as the gentleman states.
Mr.. BurLER-The difference is this--you were
| there only at that time and at no other time.
courtesy OF the Committee and listen to the areu
ment. went there, but accompanied nobody
there. except the gentleman from Kentucky, Mr.
Beck.
Mr.. BUrLKR-well that is the keynote OF the
gentleman's argument.
Mr.. KERR-It is not true.
Mr.. BUTLRR-I did not see the gentleman there
afterwards, and simply saying that ut Is not true
does not alter the matter at all when the TACT stated
| Is true. Now, am aware that 1t was the agent or
| the United States at Geneva
THE PAID ATTORNEY OF THE UNITED STATES,
who came before the committee and said he was
| the paid attorney of the insurance companies be-
| fore he was the agent OF the United States. He
snrance companies. He came before the commit
tee and argued the case in favor OF the Insurance
! companies and he has been on this floor arguing
the case, and with what results we have seen, but
! not to change the vote OF any honest man, IN my
| Judgment, who has heard botn sides. Perhaps ne
may have influenced the minds OF those who have
heard only one side.
one question
Mr., BUTLER--I cannot.
man himself is not the hired attorney OF other
claimants
| Mr.. BUTLER-No, sir.
| Mr.. KERR have heard IL stated that he is
/ Mr.. BUTLER-"That Is ialse.'
Mr.. KERR-lt may be; do not assertit
| Mr.. BUTLER-Then 1t Is insinuatlng what man
dare not say.
Mr.. BANKs-l rise to question Of order. It is not
| the right of any member to charge another men,
Der with talschood here.
Mr.. PErERs-He only said that the statement was
| false.
| Mr.. BUTLER-l will not discuss that at all.
| Mr.. BANKs-It is not admissible, and such de-
bate should not be allowed.
! Mr.. BUTIER-I have said nothing unparamen-
| tary and have nothing to take back. What mean
to say Is that there are some men who are SO little
acquainted with an honest transaction that they
| do not know it when they see 1t. Q4aughter.)
That is all mean to say.
| Mr.. kERg-And you are one OF that kind.
Mr.. BUTLER-fhat may be, hut l am not alone.
/ What mean to say directly and exactly IS. that
these insurance companies have received So 000, 900
| for war risks, when they have paid out only
| S5,0Q0,000, and there are some men who seem TO
| desire to give them SIS, 100000 more out OF the
funds in the Treasury or out OF the funds OF honest
| claimants. II seems to me so monstrous PROPOSE
tion that it cannot be supported by any honest
| mind for moment, and no honest mind will sup
try.
| VOTE ON AMENDMENTS.
| Mr.. BIRD (dem.) OF N. j., moved to lay the bill
| on the table. Rejected by q division.
The various amendments offered by Messrs
| Eames, Monroe, Potter and Poland were severally
The vote on Mr.. Potter's amendment was IS yeas
m r tn
nays. The bill was then passed by l22 yeas to 81
nays.
| WHAT THE BILL PROVIDES FOR.
| 1t provides that out OF the money paid by the
government OF Great Britain in satisfaction Of the
Treaty of Washington, naturalization to the
| United States and citizens thereof, and cor
laws Of the severa states and territories therein
shall be established and paid from the Treasury IN
the manner hereinafter provided. TO the following
| classes of claimants, In the manner fOllOwlng:-
FtrstTo all such corporations and citizens OF
the United States actual owners ofproperty At the
OUTFIT advanced or other wages paid to onicers and
seamen or heights actually earned and lost by
acts said arbitrators have found the government Of
Great Britain liable, shall De paid an actual ndem.
1y asy not ensured or the
.SecOnd-In all such vessels, to the officers and
crews, being citizens Aforesaid all the wages
| which had been actually earned by them up to the
time OF their capture, loss or destruction in any
vessel by such cruisers, together with the indi:
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| lost or destroyed in the vessel so captured, who
have not received the insurance thereupon, and to
either of said vessels an indemnity for damages
actually sustained from such capture or de-
to anS er the homes np the were then
| engaged In business or took employment respec-
lively not including any prospective profits ,o or
| have been heretofore paid them.
| Thtrd-Where the owners, officers or seamsn OF
such vessels so captured and lost or destroyed
were insured for less and received insurance in
less amount than the actual value OF the vessel or
destroyed, further indemnity shall be made for
their loss beyond the sum 80 insured and received
| Fourth-To the United States for all vessels, the
| property OF the government, or which were under
charter to the United States and. for the destruc
ton or loss of which the United States by the
captured and destroyed and lost by said cruisers,
together with the property OF the United States on
crews OF said vessels respectively as hereinafter
4, provided in case of capture Of private vessels
FU1h5To oil sven Corporations or citizens as
vessels and cargOes other property therein after
the sailing Of either Of said cruisers, to the amount
whether they surered loss by capture Of their yes
sells and property or otherwise, provided that IN
case Of such premiums paid or secured to mutual
insurance companies, the indemnity shall be the
difference between the premium paid or secured
and the returned accounts or premium therefor.
atIons OF the United States respectively having
insured or re-nsured property SO DESTROYED who
and business that the war premiums actually
received by them did not equal In amount
| the losses paid by them because of property
| thereafterward captured and lost or de-
| stroyed by either or all cruisers bearing
| the Confederate nag provided that the
| amount paid to any mutual insurance company
for losses sustained shall be apportoned by the
| company among the members thereof at the
time OF the losses paid by them respectively in pro-
portion to the interest then owned by each men,
Der thereof; and provided further, that no insurer
shall have any claim or right in claims OF any
| assured herein provided Tor because OF
any assignment either In law or fact. unless such
assignee had actually paid adequate consideration
| therefor other than underwriting policy set
| ting or paying any loss claimed by the assured or
unless such assignment was made a part OF written
contract OF insurance before the policy was under
written in express terms.
There are four other sections to the bill prescrb
| ing how losses shall be ascertaned, how claims
| shall he presented and prosecuted by petition to
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