New-York tribune., 1873-03-18
BRITISH CABINET CRISIS.
THE QUESTION STILL UNDECIDED.

Gladstone 1NN
zays Mr. Gladstone has not withdrawn his reslgna-
tion. The Echo believes that the formation OF the
Ministry is stll in the hands of the Conservatives
THE OPPOSITION TO Mr.. GLADST0NE'S BILL"
pRBArR IN THE HOUSE OF COMMoNs-MR. GLAD. GLAD
SnoNE's REPLY TO SOME OBJECTIONS Against
MS PoIICY-CRITICIsAs OF THE BILL.
Tne general dissatisfaction manifested IN lreI"nu
"a aoon AZ the provisions OF Mr. GLADSTONE i'i'.
University bill could be fully comprehenueo'
the pnblie of Great Britain to watcn "lth consiue
able interest for some evidence OF tne pohoS s ""
~o,ld be pursped by the Government. This state OF
.o,ancv led Mr. Gladstone to adopt an unusual
-.onrso ,,ben the time came for moving the second
oadiao Of the bill in the House of Commons Accord
the ordinary course proceeding the bl shouid
have been moved in silence. However, Mr. ROBERT
Rourke the Conservative member for Lynn Regis
who was educated at Trinity College, Dubhn' mad
siven notice of motion that the House should ex-
pres its regret that the Government had not stated
70 the House the names of the % Ordinary Members
Of the Council Of the new University. The moving
Of the second reading of the bill was TO take place
an Monday. the 81 of March. On that occasion Mr..
Gladstone rose to acquaint the House of several
changes which the Government had resolved upon
introducing into the bill. These changes were OF
trivial character and did not justify deviation
the opportunity of replying in advance to the OBJ
iections that had been urged against the BILL and
particularly by those whose opinions were to be ex-
pressed by Mr.. Bourke
On that occasion when the order OF the day for the
second reading of the bill had been read IN the
House of Commons, Mr.. Gladstone rose and ex-
planned several minor changes which he'proposed TO
make in the bill on the recommendation OF persons
ef authority interested in University matters. AT
the suggestion of Queens College Cork, which was
referred to in THE TRIBUNE yesterday, Mr.. Glad
stone had determined that the power OF afhhatng
new colleges would be vested in the ICrown acting
On the inquiries and recommendation of the Govern
ing Body. Complaints had been made OF the insult
fcient provision for vested interests, but on TINS
point Mr. Gladstone said the Government would be
disposed to act literally both as to money and
status. He described also changes introduced into
che definition of persons in sdtu pupilld, and also
in the powers of the Council to divide students In
arts into different branches for the purposes OF eX-
animation The pretext upon which Mr.. Gladstone
thus based his speech having thus been properly
employed, he proceeded to the subject which 1t
was his evident purpose to explain, before the
House could be influenced by the objection to the
bill which he designed to answer in advance On
this point Mr. Gladstone said:
A GOOD deal has been said upon point upOn which
I wish 20 make few remarks. One OF the most IND
portant OF these matters is theormaton OF the council
That Council is TO consist OF ordinary mem9ers ana
great deal Of the will depend upon the
selection Of those ordinary members III any OF the De
san or otherwise the beneficial intentions 6f the
Will be defeated. Hear, hear Ihefe s therelVre
natural desire 70 have their names made known Dut
unfortunately II sometimes happens that things are
n0mnally devised which morally and physically I'M
present instance ss been commonly said that when
Government has once fixed upon these rs nenber tne
Mouse would have no control over them ana
youd therefore be IN ia iaiSe Sen p3slien pS 10 "a
that s that such acts are not immutabie ana snaI
quote precedens show that assertion is correct
commissioners was on easy duty. The names not
mentioned in the bill, but were stated to the House be-
fore the second reading large portion OF tne House
was satisfied with those names and the right hon
member for Lskeard, then member for Stroud made an
Agsnst I69-a very respectable demonstration; and
whether in this case post hoe was also PROPER
hoe nd that after this division change OF names was
submitted to by the Government This was one case,
which give M at my own WI Ss % bon n eepteman epSo
site, and which occurred with the Representa-
the boundary Commissioners were introduced in the
b and although matters did not go 80 FAR as dv1s0n
there were indications which induced the Government
20 make an alteration On the 25th Of June the night
hon. gentleman produced a revised list, IN which
taree names Of the original list were omitted aud one
new one inserted think this shows that the House is
not left entirely without power Of remOnstrance IN mat
ters OF this kind have shown that in the oxford Oil
the names were not given but in the Cambridge bill
they much matter Of course that they were put
IN. But can another ease from the Representation
Of the People bl BY that bill commissioners were to
and do not thnK t1eTe cOulu nave
much difficulty in their selection beforehand Dut what
took place this No names were proposed unt the
hill had been read second time, nor In Committee until
the discussion had reached the oath clause when this i'm
potant question settled; but they were not Inserted
the b until four tve days after Inc next case was
Asi Of the Irish Church bin IN ls99 That was bill in
vkieb, although the main outlines were fixed from
& s we're asa naS afPe1agG Saste 'a As sIo
CoDnissOners however We were unable PIE 70 ask gentle
accept the office until We knew the course which
Parliament meant 10 take with the main provisions OF
The bill We read the bill second time without protest
although the names were not inserted
We went into Committee and when we reached the
gave notice that they would be inserted
IN four weeks, and they were inserted aiter
should think OF standing precedent Of this kind
except for the purpose Of showing that the thing which
and that IL is one OF the EXTREMIST that could
proposed in this House TO ask for vote Of censure on
every knows impossible The motion OF the hon.
orabe member is vote OF eensure ana the mover Is,
OF course perfectly Of its meaning and effect II
would be impossible FOR Government to insert the names
the bill without tamper1ng with the free action Of the
House and forgetting the respect winch we owe ~ It's
suppose We were to apply to gentlemen in Ireland to
BECOME members OF the Couneili Could any man ac-
oPt except mere satellite OF the Government;
asa even he were satellite would he be so seryle as
not 70 decline until he knew what the bill was TO be
1hat true Of the Irish Church BILL which had one
eeect Of commanding Importance, namely, the discs
uohshnent Of the Church; but this is bill many Of
and the treatment by the House Of any Of these clauses
night give entirely different character 70 the BILL
uAieh We hold If we were 10 seek TO pack the Council
select any but the most impartial men in Ireland.
teeir politics were, OF what their conduct had been
VII respect " the provisions OF this bill We
Ahould not think that a by having opposed the
second reading was excluded from serving under the
va, VA, and l ask any gentleman on the opposite
Eoe OF the House. could consistently with the respect
Que 70 him ask him TO at the present moments
Sh gentleman might, Of course, say that he would not
AaW anything 10 do with the bill under any eircum-
Ia ufE M Az