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course, more active and more dangerous, and
so they are, perhaps. But we know, if strang-
ers do not that Carlism means at the present
moment Don Alfonso much more than it does
Don Carlos would not be astonished at oil
if by and by the leading Ahonsoists- almost
all of whom are now at and
about Bayonne-would begin to. tender
actual help to the Carlists; and I
know for certain that the leading men of the
Carlist party, if they had been asked to ex-
press their innermost thoughts, would all de-
clare themselves for Don Alfonso. Old Elio,
for instance, knows better than any one how
far Don Carlos is unfit for the throne, and if
hest serves the Carlist cause it is simply out of
chivalry and out Of old-fashioned loyalty. He
served Ferdinand VII. and ''Charles w." and
he considers himself bound to serve "Charles
VII" but had you asked him frankly to say
whom he preferred to see on the throne of
Spain, from the point of view of the country's
welfare, he would certainly say Don Alfonso.
About the same thing could be said of Dorre-
garay, Lizarraga, Ollo and several other Car
list leaders, All of them were officers in
Dona Isabellas army. Ali of them
joined the Carlist party, not because
they did not acknowledge her as their Queen,
but because they did not wish either to serve
the Republic or Amadeo. They would never
have fought against Isabella, and would gladly
accept her son. In fact, Carlism, properly so
called, is strong with the populations Of the
northern provinces, and by no means with it's
leaders, who know only too well how little the
debauched and weak-minded Don Carlos is fit
to rule Spain, OF even likely to be accepted by
any portion of the population as soon as he
becomes more known. You said Don Carlos
spoke kindly Of me and my colleagues when
you saw him. am, therefore, sorry to say
such rude things of him, but believe I am
saying only what is true"
Your correspondent asked the President
whether he meant to shat Carlist generals
were purposely concealing their feelings at
present, and were fighting apparently in the
cause of Don Carlos, but in reality for the re-
storation of Don Alfonso.
mo, that do not mean to say" answered
the President ''They probably believe they
fight for Don Carlos, but in reality they are
simply fighting for Spanish King against
Republic now, as they foughtagainst an italian
King few months ago. But as they have no
objections whatever to the young Don Alfonso,
and as, in fact they must prefer him to Don
Carlos, would not be astonished at all if
should they be successful and the Republic
the head of troops bringing to Madrid Don
Alfonso instead of Don Carlos The rap
prochemen4 which, I hear, is beginning be-
tween some of the Carlist and some of the
Alfonsist leaders, is an additional ground for
my believing combination of this sort not
improbable.
$50 that, practically, you admit the posi-
bility of the Republic being overthrow 2"
asked your correspondent.
HOPES OF THE REPUBLIC.
Gas things are going on now" answered
the President, 81 must say that would not
deny the possibility Of such a thing, though !
hope it win not happen. At oil events there
is this much achieved already, that only two
forms Of government have henceforth become
possible in this country-either federal re-
public or constitutional monarchy with Don
Alfonso. This is great gain. A short time
ago we had about dozen combinations equally
considered as possible. The thing has now be-
come considerably simplifed. Yet Don
Alfonso, though his chances of coming to
power are great, cannot last long. His reign
would be merely short adjournment
of the Republic. In thinking this
do not lay stress alone on the pro-
gress which republican ideas are daily
making in this country, but also on some Of
the unavoidable consequences Of the Princes
coming to the throne 1t will be impossible,
for instance, to admit the Prince alone to
Spain. If he should enter the country as its
sovereign his family would naturally come
with him, and in a few days after the cere-
monies and festivities Madrid would have the
King and his friends, Regent or Regency,
with party to it /; Doha Isabel and her
party, Doha Christina and her party, the
Dixie Of Monfnensier and hia Marty and