, 1873-12-14
Ho Has Full Faith in the Success
Of the New Movement.
Assurances Of Union from Members OF
Other Denominations.
Consocrntiou Services This Morn
Ing.


Tw,.,ty-pcctrl street. Tho unfortunate divine
had oou forty-oig't hours in Ills journey to the
ttv MI uccount Of at accident to Tho train.
which dclayod lis arrival Tor some lloura. Ho
wns eroatly fntlgucd, mud though humorous
roo,,te locled 10 tho house, oithor to welcome
him or to ohtain Information, le was compelled
to tako sonle Of the rest that Nature In
sistu:l upon. Ills sermon, which Will
he preached to-day ut the conservation
og Or. Charles +. Cheney, ut Christ
CAu. eli was rnaiuly written Oh tho cars. and tic
mont,l mud physical strain to which lie lao Ocoh
subjected during his journey would have OK
haussed less active md vigorous passon.
Wi.on reporter If this papor ca'fed for the
second timo Mt tho Aouao, he was received very
pleasantly By tho Bishop, who slowed no re-
h,ctauco In expressing his vio'sa.
t1le i,,turviow hetwoon ono Of tho reporters
of T.rK Tu1nusE anil AEr. Cheney, fow days
ago." said he, "was published III full In tho
N,y York pnpero mud although shall bc glnd
to give you my information you nBl for, lot mo
tc!l you tint tho reporter, ~hooVor ho was,
extracted from alr. Cheney about all there is to
Yay. At ienst, 30 gar as eau rcco!leos, there ID
httio to add"
Ec,oror-DoI understand TINT tho church Of
gl,icI, Won aro tho hoad at present IL +" Tho Re-
form I'd Episcopal Church of American"
13;thop Cum1nins-No, sir. We puIposely
avoided those Inst two words. Tho Churches OF
,tn,ut,pa ansl England constitute tho Anglican
Cuu.:atluion. Ours ls the Reformed Epincopai
C:luicl
Kc1ortor-Do you anticipate then that tho Low
Cl,ul Il, larty Of England aud 1seland will Join
your movement?
nyaji themselves Of the opportunity to turn their
backs ,l,,on tho innovations Of tlc preAent con:
tu1y. and 70 back with us to tho Episcopal
Church Of Tie Second Century.
Reiortcr-llavo you any encouragement from
nero, tho water:
Bishop Cun,rllt,s- wo aro IN receipt Of
lcttcrs from prominent clergymcn in Engiand
tho stop VIC llayo taken. hnye aiao letter
from an e,ninout divine Of tie English Church
in t.uada. l w' not give you LIS name, or
coarts >, but will assure you TINT has congrega-
tim Hrc rcailv to follow him.
:.'.mrter-Docs ho belong to ono OF tho large
Giles?
Bl:lop Cummins-Ycs ho ia rector Of large
c1,l,;.lf in ono uf thu large cities. have no
dal,,.s tint others will cono in too.
Ne,arlor-Do you not feel encouraged a. the
nnaul.cr III wllcl. tho poople are responding! !,
Ii. hop Cumning-Uh yes. Indeed. Tho Chnr2n
~ rs' sa hnvo 10y ca Soay
nepo;lrr-ls that the extent Of tho encourage
uaout you .avo had?
Dlsiop Cu,nmi,,s--I hayo in my possession
letters from 20 or 25 clcrgynon in oil parts OF
the country who hnye expressed themselves
reaay to ioin us. But wo aro not prepared for
tho1n yot. What could wo do with sacA u pun
bcr. VIXEN there arc not chnrches enough for
tleln5 When We hayo churches, VIC hhnli call
Ic:ortos-1 understand there is church in
rc2.,a?
tlieo it, a fow tays, with the Fey. a. e. Lying In
Rector. mn going down thelo next week to
visit tho congregation. You sec other churches
will srr'nag up III The same way. a'd "e baan
have nustors enough to supply them.
llc ;1ortor-1low 10 tho Unity encourage you7
ii uop Cumlnluc-You would ho snTli'aea at
tho nnt,,aer iu which thoy answer US. 1hoy
aoc; to our standard boldly nun a ~ a;,or.
ence from members outside tho Episcopal
~ lhop Cummint-I have been told by aeVora
n,n.stsss tpat p1 'tu tey vii ou us
Eye:i i baptist mniss-r told mo le would count
IL with siH.
K-poltcr-How will you receive tho elorsy q
other ucnonluatlo.b?
ljyhop Cumtnss-On equal terms. We shal
rcCu kl,izo tucr ordination ministers md wol
con:3 them ~ such. We sAuii tull tAem that whel
o,,r Church s organized we sl1all lave Ill ordi
nu,ioA soryico. but no recognize those WHO Ut
crsl"iac<l in other churches.
1oporter-uow docs tho Episcopal Church, 4
now constituted, regard ministers OF other do
nu:llinn,ions?
BISHOP Cummina-In tile Diocese Of Illinois
grioye to say, tho Lriscoral Church has aa
s,,nel m arrogance toNurl olher denomination
which l.aa prevented i:s growth. 1t refuses t.
recognize any Of them. Followed out to it
se.il :nce, its position ia something like this
We nro the Church; therefore YOU ala not til
Church; therefore your ministers are not min
listers; Therefore your marriages nre no
marriages; your wives aro not we1aed
you aro oil in error. 1his polio
haH been most disastrous. Tho popnlatio
mi:lon neurlo to-day, bus beon growin: stcadll
within tic pnst ten year, and yet tue .placopl
Chalch has scarcely gained convert ln thu
time. The growth Of the Church has not kot
pace with that Of lAo Statu 4efe, ut my ratio.
iseporler-DJ you Bupnoso tue Rit1alists III
ty with tho Church Of Rome?
3shop ctm'nh-No, Indeed. Why ahou1
aa thoy want rhoy Gun assmI]ato
n,,uics ot lha Church. the absolntion OF ii
a cs sa s aot 20 oa nir aher tue seasaa
TIE Episcopal Church will never 80 to tint I
R3u,e. Nnle-tentha Of ell tho clergy of Il
Episcopal Church hnvo wives md families, au
TINT alono would dlkqnallfy thon,. No, there
~ dargor that tie nttuulists will eyor 10 oy'
t} Eolna.
Nalortor-How do you regard tho standing
your Ghu.ch
Uia!lop t,,,inmins--Wo stand toward tAe Epi
copal Oaurcll exactly III tho old CutholicH
tiermany stand towald tho New Catholics.
Ropmtcr-Do you hi.Il ose that tho Eyanee
ical Alliance hid anything to do with preclpita
ing this movames..?
bishop Cummins-lt Ind 'aomotling to /
with it; Yes, certainly. Tho facs lint I col
nluned with clcrgyulot OF other denomination
raised such un outcry that thought the tin
had come to tnso bold stanl lld 80, al
loft that Church. And subsequently discover
Tint Ind not done 30 I should have boon Or
Honte>. Your readers are familiar with tho
nlnttcra Of curso, ielt that If could not re
ugnizo ministers Of ctl.or Churches ut tho cot
nluuion tablo heca,so tho Episcopal Church fo
hede 1t, had better leave It, And have lott
loporler-Wilat viii be tho service ut Outl
Church Tomorrow
bishop Cnitllnns--:Tlo conservative servi
will be llold. aud II sermon preached by NO.
noporter-Wlo will nsaiet you III tllst &c
Yice2
~ bishop Cummi,,s-Ihe nevR. aIurshal1
. Bmill nld ManaM Gallagher, Of Now Jerno
) tho Roy. D. u. Lcac0ck, of Now York C!ty; Il
N1v " Il EeltweE nt Nov York aud tho lie