The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1873-01-21

FAMOUS FOUR.
Q. Who were theyP A. Walter Roche came to
sweeny, Connolly, Hugh smith: suppose the
vas M Han ons n Them He was
braced in the lot. III. ...tt rvr
g How A: In the public prints.
Q. Was he one OF those that were to fight your
battlesf A. He would not do anything to injure
Q. Did you expect him to fight your battles fol-
your A. don't know what to say about it.
q. How much did you claim against the city in
1S71f A. There might be 100000. all against the
8 How much against the county A. don't
9: $4,000 A. don't think 1t was; can't re.
q po you make these claims now y
Q. What were they fors A. Partly for work to
Q. What was the work dones A. These frescoes.
g II wasn't all Tor these irescoes, surelyi A. 1t
was also Tor work on armorles and drifl rooms
W. MISCELLANEOUS ARMORIES.
O. What armoriesa A. Miscellaneous armories.
Judge-Were the bills presenteds A. They were.
q what dld you claim In september, 1871, alto.
getherf A. Without drawbacksf Gaughter) ]
don't remember the amount OF bills put III.
Q. You are not asked that, but how much alto.
gether did you claim A. How can tell unless /
Counsel-H you want time for rejection, 1t is
now the hour Tor recess, and you can take time to
Judge Davis-Very well; half an hour for renec-
The Court then took recess go
81" fr After Recess. aai H'E
The afternoon session OF the Court was extremely
presented itself for a joke. Mr.. Garvey was the
nrst man IN Court on the prosecution SIDE. Judge
ten minutes behind time-and when the counsel
for the defence resumed the cross examination OF
the witness there was not one OF the counsel for
the prosecution IN their places. They came IN
almost immediately afterwards, however.
q. Mr.. Carney, can you now give US any idea OF
the gross amount OF your claims against the city in
September, 1871 ? A. My claims as presented, real
and fictitious, should Judge were over $500, 900.
Q; What amount Of that total was real claim
9: How much under slOoooos A. Something like
eighty thousand dollars.
sand dollars worth OF work for the county, and l
have q claim for that now. .E
Q. In September, 1870, what amount OF diamond
jewelry did you present to your wireF What was
HER pARAPHERNALIA
in that liner l believe that is what they call 1t.
A. That has been good deal over-estimated.
q. Wen. never mind that; tell us what 1t was.
The Court-O, you need not give us the items, Mr..
Garvey; state the value of them. A. About thirty
q. Did you have any Tammany Hall bonds in 1870
or S71Y A. Ten bonds. OF the total value of $4,000.
9: Did Mr.. Tweed present you with any articles
The Court cannot see the relevancy Of such
ss s sgSssy this what does the counsel
dounsel-we ask this question to show the
animus Of this witness against Mr.. Tweed. We eX-
pect to show that he destroyed those presents, be-
cause they were presented TO him by Mr.. Tweed,
and sold them for old silver ~ rVa ef p
WltneSs-YOu can't show that, for have got the
''sverware" yet; will bring them into Court and
Q. What articles did he present you within A.
Table silver
9. When this agreement that you say was made
wit n Mr. TARA Sr,fr
provision In 1t to secure to the county the return
OF any money that you owed itS a. There was
Q. Then that agreement was made to extricate
you from your troubless A. have toldyo what
was done, and you can hl 81
MAKE YOUR OWN SENSE 4sre &.
Of 1t; am willing to do what is right.
Q. When did you first go before the Grand Jury
A: October u, ls7l; was before the Grand Jury
Of October have had conversations with Mr..
Peckham, counsel for the prosecution-the first
been indicted; he said nothing to me about my
being indicted. -
him A. Perhaps hall a dozen or more. ~, F.
Q. How many mores A. Well, perhaps seven
q. As many as twelvea A. Perhaps have had
twelve; have seen him atshis house and at his
o. When did You last call on himS a. Last night;
was with him about twenty Five minutes I
c, When last before thatY A. On Saturday night,
for about i've minutes
four times he asked me to come to his house on
Saturday night.
@ What did you talk about, Objected to by Mr..
Peckham Objection sustained and exception
Q. How often have you seen Mr.. rremain pri-
q. DO you i>aember that when you were pro-
duced in Court on the Hall trial, that you sprung
upon that trlai as surprise wi, when Il was not
Overruled and excepted to.
q. Did you keep yourself concealed from the
<tx IL In Otxr
produced on that trial A. don't know that
did; went over to Brooklyn several times and
went out riding everywhere
number OF questions as to whether the wit
ness knew or believed
HIS PRESENCE IN THE CITY
was generally known at that time were Overrued.
@. Did you have an interview with Attorney
General BarlOwY A. had but one interview with
him; that was at his house. have furnished sey .
matter to the prosecutisn volunteered those
statements.
ton Tor Mr.. Peckham) produce these statements
In writing, but the demand was overruled.
Q. On January l. 1868, what was the utmost
thousand dollars.
Q. what did 1t consist Off A. owned q house
and the house No. IS Third avenue, with my bust
and stock and from $50 900 to SIS 900 In regis
tered United states securities.
Yes. were 'Ds' Registered ~ your own name A.
Q. Did you keep them at home A. Yes.
Inc CouTCOn, counsellor, cannot sit mere 10
listen to this. shall not allow you to contradict
him on that, and why do you want to occupy the
time
Counsel explained that he did not want to occupy
the time, but 1t was necessary.
The Court stated that counsel must take witness
statement that he was worth $100, 900, unless he
had some object other than mere inquisltive curl
osity.
Counsel said his object was TO learn by COMPARE
son OF items whether they tailed with the aggre-
gate given. The questions were ruled out and ex-
ceptiOns noted.
Q. Did you bring any suit for claim against the
city or county in 1871 7 A. did, but don't know
whether 1t was against the city or county; I
brought a suit also against Mr.. Tweed for claim
OF about twenty thousand dollars; that has been
settled
q. do you remember that it was settled by strik-
ing Off an item Of about two thousand dollars for
work claimed to have been done at Greenwich
A. That was about the amount left OF; didn't
SETTLE 1T MYSELF;
II was done by my brother and lawyer; was in
Jersey City, at Tayor's Hotel. when the final set.