New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-03-06

q rrho he
think that was stated probably IN his testn9g he
would recollcct about H. ard would not; '"HA "'
Yon think in the Fan Of 1870 soon afcr me
snmmer because know that he had been living tnese
oue time previous to the 9Th OF September Deeasg
came on from there the only recollection nave o ~
that he came from this place on Long Island Neoe
had been living to attend Cen Kawlnss iIst The sum
mer; must have been there In July ana AISsn, vi
O. Since tho Fan OF 1870 then he has lived thero dd
understand You say that you seldom or never caea
his house since that time during any OF your k se
the City Of NewYcrkd A. called once az nls nUth
when he was living on West Thirteenth OF seVehec"'n
st.. forget which, 49,, IT,. go,
tnued did they not AYES, the friendship coh'lhueu
| we have had no great intimacy; ., ,u,o,,,,v
O. DO you not call your relations ntlmate ,no
when you members OF the same mess ia Washing
| ton A. Certainly they were - . 90.
Q. Those relations continued, did they mott "A our
| friendship continued, not our intimacy. 49,,
Q. What do | understand you To mean by that a. ~
Because persons cannot be very intimate unless .y az
thrown together see each other have active cor
respOndeDce between them. .,., ,o,
been intimate and friendly and were not changed eA
oept that you did not see so much OF each other Is t
the correct way OF putting It'll A. That is Substantially
O. Since the Fall Of 1870 presume you been
eral times In the City OF NewYoIkl A. Several times
generally with the President at hotel uptown ana Tor
O. You never called at Leets house but once in all that
O. Was there any reason for thatl A. Nothing except
the want OF time and his stOrehouse being out OF the
| general thoroughfarc OF the city.
house when l said his house A. Inever saw his store
house in my life; never paid visit 10 1t: should
| have done so II l had had time go, =,
@. Observe, have been asking you al the time upon
the subject OF your calling at Mr. Lccs house aeF DC
| Fall Of 1901 A. At his dwelugnousei
| Q. That is what you understood A. Yes
o. When asked yOu whether there was any reason Tor
that you oil 10 speaking about his storehou,ef A
viii answer you separately AID distinctly in reference
O. do not want to ask you about his sorohouao at all
Is there any other reason IMAM tat you nav Tr1ou,
ons visits TO the City OF NewYork since the Fall OF 1870
Thsa ne SRa i eceSs want OF
has called several times on me when We were at c h9te,
| was thcre / have never visited or seen him
| o. Have | understood yOu % say that yOl supposed
Ieet was an officer until tie Fall OF 1870, and dIawne
his pay an officer OF the ariDyf A. supposed that
c. You also stated that the circumstance that he did
not resign his place led you 10 me belief 9ai he nag
failed obtaining success Ia the occts OF ms Vslt
to New-YorS to see Mr. Griuncs A. Yes that hc had
| given MP that idea for the present. -
resign in the army unu he had something ocf y. Yes.
Sir; he did want to throw away an old coat until he
70 When he resigned in February he had got nothing
in the General order business IN NcW-NoIk, ana hai
getting 1t; why should he resign y That was prob
ably the reason of his dating has resignation Ill sep
Q. But his resignation as put ID, would take effect
times have known OF persons falling TO 10 INTO Dus
ness H. -. ~ .a,,u. ,ho, oourso
|
the year before when he was looking Tor the General
Order business, If his Resignation could be dated ten OF
| A. do not know; IL could have been done
| THE PRESIDENT MURPHY, AND LLET, STOCKING co,
O. You wrote a letter MI Murphy, the Collector, at
the direction Of Gen. Grant, in regard 10 newspaper
paragraph which you inclosed, asserting that Gen.
Grants friends obtained favors IN the Custom house and
| among them Mr.. Lect was named y. Hcs, Sir.
| ls7Sf A. The 9lst of October. 1870.
O. What was ever done about that by MI Murphy
| A. There was change made that know OF at all
| O. He did nothing 10 remedy the matters complained
Of In the newspaper paragraph A. TINS was reported
ulv and some one believe lac denied the conversation
| O. The subject was deemed OF sufficient Importance by
letter to Mr.. Murphy 7 A. Yes, sir ,,-,-.-
| O. DO you know Of any step taken by Mr. Murphy in
compliance with that letter from that time until MI
Murphy himself went out Of GfGe a. Go not H stock
ns succeeded in getting the whole OF the North River
General order business into hcr hands! ~ TINS lCtcI
was quent think 10 their obtaining the whole OF
any re 1 MY t se T T s the c
hands of Leet and stocking, NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. that eter
Murphy A. know Of reason; Nj. Murphy can
O. Was any further step taken by Gen. Grant IN re
gard to it, SO you knows A. do not know Of any
O. DID he express any displcasurc 10 Mr.. Muphy for
his failure to upon that letter IL any wayi A.
| O. You have spoken. Think of the Summer OF 1871,
and your having beep at Long Branch where you saw
the President and M Murphy several times DUNG that
seasonl 4. Yes, Sir
O. Did you any falling of Ia the friendly relations
OF Gen. Grant with NJ. Murphy at that time a No,
q That eight or nine months after the IettcI Of
Oct 81 1870, written by you TO MI Murphy A. Yes
Has Mr. Leet or Mr. Stocking or both Of them been
here coupG of weeks ago
O. How long did they Tcmainl a DO not recollect
O. Have yon had an interview or conversation with
them in regard TO this investigation A With Col Dee
O. Have You and Col. Lcet, OF You aud Mr. stocking
had any tervews or conversations IL regard to THE III
| filnf 4. Y
O. Have you had more than one ! A. With Col. Leet.
o. Did he and you talk quite fully on this subjects A.
We smoke generally OF IT. the principal thing to ask
him 10 find that letter which mad written to him at
Chicago, and he did; ne gave me that letter 49,
| Q. You say that was the principal tlnnei A And we
spoke of this letter which had been written dated The
9th of September
O. Obligc me by mentioning what letter you refer to :
A. letter making appointment with me for Lindsay
called his attention to the fact that not in town AZ
that time and that had meyer made an app3n ,
from the conversation that he had been absent from the
city.
Stocking either OF them In this city, take place since
the Committee returned from Hew,fork A. One inter
view occurred in the Executive Mansion, one at the
hotel; Col Leet was staying at the hotel where live,
satons that speaking Of occurred at the Ex-
ecutIve Mansion and one in the Committeeman:
Q. Then do understand Won 10 say that you had not
any at the hotel A. Yes, Sir; We had al interview
there
the Commit room and IN the Executive Man
sion when spoke OF two referred to the one III the
Executive Mansion and the one III the Committeeman.
| q. And you now say there wac one at the botelf A
@. Morei A. Not that I recollect.
O. How long did he stay here A. That DO not Ieool
q. Was your conversation at all those interviews con
fined to subject two letters A. No not
all talked about the business generally and the tes
tmony that had been taken.
q What was the general dr OF the conversation in
regard to net testimony itssra 70 t0s immense
| that was the most fruitful topic