Arizona citizen., 1872-06-01

at the conference. He told them that where the children had parents among the Indians they would have to be given up; but where neither parent was living to claim them, they should be returned to the persons in whose possession they now were.
 In compliance with General How ards request, and with his assurance that they should not be given up, unless their parents came to claim them, the children were taken to the conference at Grant. But let us proceed with the talk
 General Howard told Eskevanzin that he had brought six Apache chil- dren from Tucson; and he wanted to know if there were not some of them that had no parents. Eskevanzin re- piled they were h1s children, the same as the Indians were General Towards s children.
 General Howard asked if their fathers and mothers would not come { forward and get them. Eskevanzin l said that when General Howard was Rhere before, he showed the General where one hundred and thirty of his kpeople had been killed. These chil- Kdren had lost their fathers and kmothers.
 N General Howard asked him, where the children have no fathers and mothers, whether he did not want them to remain where they could Nave good homes. Eskevanzin wanted to know of the General if it had ever Been explained to him whether or not the children had been taken from the women and the women been turned Hloose. General Howard replied that Nit never had. Eskevanzin said that R9 children had been taken captive :; but two of them came back of them Selves. He pointed out several who Xhad lost brothers. He said the Gen. eAal had brought three (there were olNy two boys), who were brothers of ones he pointed out. He wanted them because they had relatives.
 General Howard asked Eskevanzin if there were not captives among the Apaches, and where they were.
 Eskevanzin replied that he did not know where they were, or how many there were. "You have an Agent here," he said, "may be, he can tell you.''
 General Howard, pointing to Mr. Leopoldo Carrillo, who was present, said that he was a good man; he obeyed the laws, and had brought the little girl, that was in his possession here because he had been directed to do so.
 MT. Carrillo said the little girl was like one of his own; she was very contented; she was learning to pray and becoming civilized.
 Eskevanzin said that General How ard had not kept his promise. When the General was here before, Eske- vanzin told him that twenty mine captives had been 'taken-two of them returned and the General had prom ised that he would bring them all back, and he had not done so.
 General Howard much excited said that EskevanZin knew he had kept whatever promise he had made. He then read from the report of the first talk, ill which he said he would not promise to bring them all back he would rather do it, than to promise to do 1t, some of the captives were in Sonora, and we might have to go to war with that country to get them back.
 In the evening General Howard said to quite a number, while apparently laboring under considerable excite ment, that these captives should be given up to the Indians, if we had to go to war with Mexico to get them. g 2
 Eskevanzin said that he thought there was no one who had higher power than the commander at Tucson, Che probably referred to the Governor). No one issued orders but he, and he had more power than the President or Generals. What he meant by this is not clear, but probably, that when General Howard talked with him be- fore, he claimed that the General promised to bring back all the cap tives and now, after having been to Tucson he had brought only six; and even hesitated to give these up. Therefore the Tucson Capitan must have interfered.
 EsKevanzin wanted the children that had been brought, turned over ! L I