The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-05-04
METHODIST GENERAL CONFERENCE.
Appointment Of the Standing Committees -Adop-
ton Of Rules Of 0rder-Windy Discus
sions-What May Be Expected Of
the Book Concern Committee.

when Rev. Father Brunson OF Wisconsin, led the
devotional exercises, reading Second Corinthians
skill, and prayer Hymn 665 was read and sung
without spirit The journal was read and APP
proved
The report of the Committee on Rules OF Order
was read by the Secretary. With few exceptions
and notifications they are those adopted by the
last General Conference. The sessions OF the Con-
ference are fixed from nineA M. to halfpast twelve
NJ. The quorum was fixed at the disciplinary num-
Der OF twothirds. Speeches. buncombe and other
WISE are limited to fifteen minutes. No member Is
allowed to be absent without leave OF the Confer
ence nor shall absentees be allowed to vote with
out leave OF the Conference. The ninth rule on
amendments tO.resoutions, after considerable de-
bate was, motion of Dr. Curry, recommitted to
the Committee Rules. No bad or insulting Ian
guage is to be used by delegates on the floor.
Duplicate reports and resolutions are required,
and all such must be read by the Secretary.
THE COMMITTEE ON APPEALS
Is to consist, according to the report on rules of
order, OF one member from each delegation, and Is
to be divided into two sections, but not less than
fifteen shall constitute quorum in each section.
DIR. Il. 0. HAVEN moved to amend this rule by in
sorting the word "clerica" between the words
"onen and 'member.n
DR.. GooDE opposed the amendment as creating
an invidious distinction. Local preachers he de-
clared, are tried by Quarterly Conferences, bishops
by elders and elders by deacons.
DR.. SLIcER or Baltimore saw great propriety in
Dr. iavcn's amendment and an equal improperly
in iaymen sitting in the Committee OF Appeals.
Mr.. KRIGER believed that if this distinction is
allowed now to come In it will produce endless diff
Guilty.
Mr.. HILL, OF Erie, could not see how this cut or
the laymen from proper representation on the
committees. 1t was simply an assertion that one
committee shall be composed solely of ministers
They may have to appoint committee of aymen
exclusively by and by.
Dr. CRAWFORD. OF New York, was sorry that this
question had come up here. He supposed that
when the Conference adopted lay delegation they
accepted all its logical results. He was glad to
hear distinguished laymcn yesterday say that they
wished to hear more of the distinctions between
lay and clerical delegates. He could not see why
laymen should be excluded from this committee
any more than from half dozen other committees
on bishops tIneracy, revisals, &c. The objections
made against laymen serving on this committee
are based, he thought, upon misunderstanding OF
the common law phrase, $50 be tried by jury OF
his peers" This meant simply that freeman
should be tried by a jury of freemen and not of
listers by jury OF minister's or Judge by jury of
judges In the Presbyterian Church the ruling
ELDERS ARE EQUAL IN AUTHORITY
with the teaching elders. II ministers begin to
make this distinction it may continue to be made
by the laymen, and he deprecated any such dis
DR.. COOPER of Philadelphia, moved to lay the
amendment on the table, which was done, by II
Judge McCALMoNT then offered an amendment
that il the appellant desire 1t he shall be tried by
ministers only He should have the benefit of a
choice In the composition of the body by whom he
is to be tried. The right OF challenge does not give
him all the benefits which he should have. The
Judge made an elaborate speech in support Of his
amendment
DIR. HESTER called attention to the fact that this
amendment, in principle, had been voted down
already, and he moved, therefore, to lay this the
table. This was done, and the rule upon which all
this discussion was had was thereupon adopted
and ordered to be printed
DR.. GILBERT HAVEN wanted the Conference to re-
consider the vote by which it had adopted the rule
cutting or amendments to resolutions whenever
the previous question shall be ordered.
DR.. HARRIS remarked that one-third of the Con-
ference had even then the power to keep any paper
before the house.
DR.. HAVEN replied that this did not meet the
question.
then read as folows:-"It shall be in order to take
the question without debate, except where char
acter Is involved; but original motions, amend
ments and substitutes may be acted upon without
debate.'
DR.. HARRIS explained the reasons which led to
the presentation and adoption OF this rule. The
want of 1t had on former occasions created inter-
minable confusion on the floor of Conference.
DR.. Il. o. HAVEN remarked that the pre- yious aues
ton carries with it the whole subject. When the
previous question is ordered Conference may not
be ready to vote on the question 1t is at the
one form OF the question original amendment or
substitute, might settle it all, and he thought the
Conference should have the right to do this before
the vote is taken.
Rev. ]. RorHwEILER asked If it was in order on
motion to reconsider to discuss the merits OF the
question
Bishop AMEs, presiding, remarked dryy that II
was not in order but that It is very often difficult
Judge PRICE did not want to cut of debate,
but in
SUCH BODY OF PROFESSIONAL TALKERs
q a m Tn nj nj nhafa nd
when the call for the previous question Is sustained
It Is the presumption that all that is necessary
that can be said has been said and nothing is left
but to vote II the Conference will settle this
question now they will it before the end of the
session. when they will lind endless trouble on their
hands.
Dr. r. s. FOSTER made the point OF order that
there was nothing before the Conference, the
to reconsider not having voted with the majority,
and having therefore no right to make this motion.
Bishop AMEs acknowledged that this was so, yet
ne was unwilling to apply the gag to such an as
The Conference was getting into snarl on this
matter, when DIR. FOSTER cut the debate short by
moving That the Conference proceed to appoint the
standing committees. Carried.
On Dr. Fosters motion also Conference ordered
twenty-five copies daily of the Dniiy AdrOcdte TO be
sent to the address of the Rev. DR.. Jobson Presi-
dent OF the British Wesleyan Conference, who had
tributed ut his discretion
The standing committees then appointed,
and Conference ordered that they all meet at three
p. M. in Washington avenue Methodist Episcopal
church. TO organize and elect their several officers.
Adjourned.
The following are the most important of the
standing committees. with their officers elect =
THE COMMITTEE ON EPIsCopACY:-
Alabama, a, = Larkin Baltimore, II. Slicer Black
River L. ID. White California, j. Il. Tousey;
man, W Mast; Central Illinois, W. IL Hunter Central
New York D. ID. Love; Central Ohio. W. L. Harris Cen.
trail Pennsy lyana, r. Mitchell; Cincinnati j. w Weak
"; Colorado, Evans Delaware, Young: Des Moines,
w. f. Godfrey Detroit f. o. Haven: see, f. O.
Hard East German, G. +. Quinn; East Maine, A.
Prince Erie. j. Lester Genesee, r. Carlton; Georgia r.
O. Fuller Germany and Switzerland, L. :. Jacoby Hols-
ton f. ,C9beigh Illinois W J. Prentice, India, II.
Mansell; Indiana, W. :. Coles. Iowa w. r. Cowles:
Kansas, W. X Marshall; Kentucky, W. H. Black,
Lexington, N. W. Taylor; Siberia, Z. A. Pitt.
man Louisiana l.. g. Landry; Maine, p. Jacques;
Michigan; j. NJ Reid; Minnesota, p Brooks; Mssis
Nebraska B. Maxheld; Nevada, j. II. McGrath New,
ark, j. W. Miey; New England w. r. Clarke; New
Hampshire, j. Pike; New Jersey, l. d. King; New York
n DC, crswiord New YORK East, a Hunt; North
North Ohio. f. s. Hoyt; Northwestern German O. A. Loe
Der: Northwestern Indiana, A. f. Gee Ohio j. NJ Trim