The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1872-08-23
O FOE an OLIVER CROMWELL!
AnInterview with Thomas Carlyle the
Great EnSlish Essayist-He Thinks
Eyerybody Going Wrong.
REV. DR.. Cuyler in the New York Evangelist.

REV. DR.. Cuyler In the New York Evangelist
LONDON, July %.
eTwenty.nine years Acquiring q college
INV Visit to Euglaud-I had q most Interesting
interview with Thomas Carlyle. bis conVer-
sation proved very fertiliztng. having a
great desire TO see once more the veteran VINO
has placed thirty volumes of his productions
In English libraries, sent hun friendly
message. He Invited me to his little plain
house in Cheyne row, Chelsea. Taxing an
Intimate friend into the '.hansom" with me,
We sailed Off ON hunt for the lion. We
drove through fashionable West End, on 10
the banks OF the Thames. There we found an
inscription, "This is Great Cheyne Row." In
one OF the oldest Of the brick houses 10 this
row dwells-and for forty years has
dEelt-the most extraordinary OF living Eng
lish men of letters. Not an article seemed 10
have been charged in the house since my
previous visit in lB42. The good faithful wife
who dWelt there then has eince passed away
TO the s'silent land;" all else looked unalteret.
sent up our names, and we were shown Into
a plainly furnished room, on whose walls
hung rugged portrait OF brave Oliver Crom-
well. Presently an old man apparently over
three score and ten, walked very slowly into
the room. He was atlired IN long blue
eray hair was In an nncombed "mop" on his
head. His clear blue eye was sharp and plerc-
inp. A bright unge of red was on his thin
rhsek. and his hand trembled as he took our
own. The most singular personage-who re-
minded me of an old alchymisC-Was the
author of 'sHero Worship" and the "French
Revolutions" He commenced at once-aiter
q few Inoniries about Longfellow, Bryant and
other American friends-a most characteristic
dfsconrse on the fearful degenecacy OF this
Wretched age of deluson and lmpostures.
with great vehemence oil manner ne SAID lnat
sIEngland has gone clean down Into an a6oml.
nabla and damnable cesspool OF llee, and
shoddies and shams." The first OF these
which he specified we're the swindllng joint
stock company, aud new schemes for turnlng
everything into gold. "Abomtnsble contrl-
yances for turning commerce and trade Into
vilanous rouge ct noir." He described the
present turmoil on the labor question as
simply q 'slazy trick of both master and man
to get as much pay and do as little work
az thew possibly CAM He then broke
out into terrible denuncation of DRAM
shops and .whuskey," which 1t did my soul
uobd to hear. Cough never surpassed the
red-hot vehemence of the old mans philippe
against the horrible and detesatble damnalion
ol wbusssy and livery kind o. strong drink
He is heartily 10 favor of the prohibltory
movement, but has no faith 10 parllaments,
and none at ali In any living man now con-
trolling civil affairs. He gave us an intensely
indicrous picture of night he once spent in
Parliament listening to an '.lnfnite bah.
blement of windy talk. and endless grinding
of hurdy.gurdies, grinding out lies and inant
ties" But at last the old Duke of Wellington
arose, and then, said Carlyle, ''he stammered
away for fifteen minutes; but he was the only
man in the House who g1veme any credible
portraiture of the facts" asked him his
opinion OF the man whom we in America
honor as the most eloquent and brave of living
British statesmen. Carlyle's contemptuous
reply was, "Only shop-keeper-a mere bag
mana man who treats England as only big
shop; he ought never to go into the House OF
Commons without white apron lied under
his srmsr 20 for another Oliver Cromwell !"
exclaImed the old man. II have gone down
to the very bottom of divers speeches; and
let me tell you that nothing In Demosthenes
or any other man can compare with him In the
piercing Into the veritable and credible core
Of the fact. But in these days parliamentary
eloouence' is only detestable and damuable
babblement of imposture and lies !" And this
rasi hot lava of denunclation was poured out
IN one unceaslng stream for nearly half an
hotir. until he wound up by consgnlng pretty
much everything and everybody to a'bottom-
less pool OF everlasting damnation-,-n what.
ever meaning You may give to that word"
This wonderful 6arangue was delivered
In broad Scotch brogue, and with the