New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-02-06

have heard OF inspectors taking brbos rom po nm
a the bad Srbed the fact that
"a on ss knew sG' instances
the John Bertram, Dr. Barth, the Queen ana tho 'nA
O. Are those all the same lnei A. Yes; In those cases
the Collector learned about 1t and sent orders 10
the goods sie,ed repoted 2 number OF pI Col
eeOT MURPHY and they were ID, dlscharsed think
they about as honest ~ any other class
TWO YEARS EoaHEIIgREs,
Senator Bayard-You stated about number OF suits
instituted and 50 Vases where books and papers had
been seized by you Do those suits include proceedings
by other norners or sgenIs besides yogr ,S
O. In all these Gases you have been personally con
d. A Yen 1 r the .En amount @ S5
aud this represents the actual amount Oh coe0u0ns
Q: Where did you take those 'front.' A. From the
AUDITOR books this j. the amount paid ni4 INTO Inc
All these the sytem Of moiety |,
AUTHORITIES may refuse to accept bond and the mpor-
has NE right give bonds Tor the value Of the good,
may FIRST demand that be shall pay amount OF duties
actually due the Government before giving that bond
case of couscund then the snt would be only for the
value less the duties 10 is sure way 0t gettng the
duties 10 the Government.
| CASES WHERE TIE GOVERNMENT GErs 40 DUTIES.
Senator Bayard referred to several furnished by
Deputy Collector Clark In which judgments recovered In
a suit in rem. where the net proceeds divided be-
tween informer and the three officers Collector Sur
veyor and Naval officer, and the Government did MT
get a cent of duty witness freplied that in cases
where the value is less than $780, the Government gets
no duty.
OF cigars and liquors for instance where they pay
high rate OF duty almost the entire value IL taken up by
duties and there nothing left 70 be divided; The only
explanation can give with regard to such case as you
duties had been secured
You say that where the value is less than goo the
between the informer and the three Customs officers
Q. Here case for instance of three casks Of sherry
wine, in which not penny was paid Tor duties a. In
entered at the Custom house upon classification.
and had paid their duty, and the liquidation had taken
| place previous TO the seizure.
@. As to whether there were compromises and settle
ments with merchants under charge OF violation Of the
free permit for the merchant A. Never, while
in tto Custom house explain that in one sentences
az the Custom-house and duties paid although those
entry las BEEN gaIdaed that liquidation is na and
the only penalty that can be enforced upon the importer
Is IN the form OF penalty for fraud III that trlnsac-
| ton; the fault there is IN tho law
Senator Bayord-I observe In the records OF these
sued for and the amounts you have obtained how many
OF ie suits which yon nave commenced nave Deen Ie
termined In favor OF the deiendantsf A. None at ALL
have recovered in every case that has been deter
mined
O. I observe "a very marked difference between the
claimed and the taken In settlement III most
OF the ca.es A. In OF the tho parties had
become bankrupt AID the United states Disrict-Ator
ney thought the amounts taken better than judgments
that could not be collected
O. When you make these settlements is it understood
that criminal prosecution shall folowi A. That Is
entirely with the D.strlctAttorney
q Does such an understanding exist A. suppose
O. Did you ever know of a case where a criminal pros
been compromised md settled in this wayf A. Not One
have known cases where criminal prosecutions pre-
have
OF the money IN thi, way in one case the Grand Jury
refused 10 ndct who had paid the full amount OF
the Government claim.
FISHING FOR EVIDENCE.
O. In the seizure and examination OF books aud papers
OF parties you say that the examination sometimes dis
closed evidence OF other frauds of which you had no
previous knowledge A. Occasionally; yes, Sir.
O. Have you, while those books and papers were in
your possession abandoned the charge first made by
used the and proceedings to efect settle
other charges discovered by in the course
o so, essd fSq by the @arrapt II y I 3
ra dr nf and caught trout would
not throw him bach Into the stream.
WHOM You GO into merchants office to examine his
9 S @m@ P ae n1S it, OF maud
Q. Have you in any taken all merchants books
ali a Where found he had secreted or carried away
The most Of his books.
nation or knowledge A. The aiayits upon which the
warrants were obtained / have made myself except In
Q. Did Mr. Beckwith ever make an affidavit for you
A. Only one, and that In regard TO fraud COM
united by himself and for which he was dismissed the
Q. Mr.. Can't 4. Mr. Carr has made affdavts with
gard TO frauds committed by himself.
cases A. think not, except where had other evil
besides his think there six seven cases
where he was connected.
ONE JAYsE's
Q. Mr.. Carr, you say, away to Canadai A. Yes,
Sir
Q. Do you remember the namo of ithe person with
whom you negotiated his returnf A. think the letter
written to him by George Daniel former employs
OF hIs.
@ Under those negotiations he returned to this cit
Q. Was he ever prosecutedi A. No, Sir.
Q. Was he taken into your employment A. No. Sir; he
he has been there very frequently
e Did you or not paw him certain moneysi A. have
year ago last October and saidE have now done all
ted by me or through me upon the but there are
some other things that know that have not told,
See fraud !" rosarG to certain
disc and suspect ctr, that certain parties are con-
that could see ' no Oijec don, aud would ave him
after had traced out portion Of the frauds from nfor
H1 as n@ se other to psy n
gave me, for which paid him $500 or $500.
In june 1853 Procured warrant his arrest the
same day the adavits we're made and the u Marshal
here unable 10 ma MIN; ne was arrested tne
u Marshal OF Massachusetts,, but escaped from him
and fed to Canada.
O. When did he come back to New-York and settle
down quietly under this arrangement that he should not
be presecutsdi A. About the middle Of September 1870
q. When did you him last A. About the 18TH or
last month.
Q. Wherel A. In my Office
q Has he since this arrangement between YOU and
him been In the habit of coming frequently TO your
Object A. Sometimes every day for week. and then
not for two three months
O. Have any efforts been made by persons TO got
hun back into Government empoyi A. think no told
he had been promised situation Of that kind, but