The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-02-06

upon the General Assembly 10 give Q delfverance
tdes ITSELF and puIs the Presbytery IN direct hos
tiiity 70 tine Presbyterian Church. He therefore
Rev Mr. PATTON thought It was a question OF
great moment and was worthy OF the notice OF the
TWO questions that come before this body were, is
It competent to investigate the and has 1t the
ability and energy to condemn In reply 20 Dr:
constitution OF the Presbyterian Church prohibiting
women preaching, Mr.. Patton said there was moth
church; from having Universallst proclaim his
doctrines therein; or he might get q precocious
ana sensational things which are not prohiblted.
But that would not release him from trial ana CEN
he 10 rom maj se Ger had
offended against God and the Church. Tns biDle IN
WOMAN MUST KEEP SILENCE IN THE CHURCH
however much she may want to speak lLaughter.l
The weight OF Paul's argument rests not upon tne
woman's pety or her oratorlcal ability, but upon
the relation or the sexes which has not been mate
rally changed since the creation. HIS nnai appeal
to human consciousness Mr. Patton declared to be in.
cipient ratOnasm and as part or the argument mat
CHRIST Was now on earsn ne would not sepeas
denim this act lie sMr. Patton) insisted that Presby-
terry ought to give some expression upon this
Elder FREEMAN, Of the Memorial church. read the
committees paper substituting the CRIME OF theft
for that OF preaching TO show the utter absurdlty
OF the wording Of the document OF which he also
disappr0ved.
Dr: VAN DYKE spoke in regard 70 the jurisdiction
OF the Presbytery over the question. NOBODY was
on trial. and vet they are asked to pass judcially
upon case not properly before them. The session
and not the pastor OF Lafayette avenue church IS
the party that should be tried, and charges can be
made against either upon TWO grOunds-crlme and
dr. q e ana
but considered some Of It's arguments very weak.
The act complained OF is not an isolated case. 1t
links itself to three thlngs:-SensatiOnallsm
in the pulpits. which has made Brooklyn
churches q reproacn throughout the world;
which seeks to overturn the social order, ana to
that broad Church movement which seeks to over
merits OF the Case ana contended thai this act Of
preaching was contrary to the Bible and Presbyte-
and therefore not member OF Christian Church;
not ordained, and therefore not minister, and
These points he elaborated and substantlated by
numerous citations, Biblical and disciplinary. II
DR. Iuyler could show that MISS Smiley a wa was IN
DyKes) pulpit should be open to her, but not other
wise.
DR.. SPEAR jumped up again to defend his pre-
vi0us remarks and to expose
THE FALLACIEs OF MEssRs. VAN DYKE AND PATTON.
As they condemned MN and DIR. Cuyler for doing
what they believe the Bible allows ne denied their
right to quote that Book against him. II the Pres
bytery censure they are bound to give their reasons
and their authority for SO dong. He, therefore,
moved TO lay the paper the table for the purpose
OF taking up substitute which he offered, as fol-
lows
.peclhed the call for this meeting 40 not deem
oont 70 ake any action upon the suoJect ~ tho present
time.
DR.. DRYER objected to thus choking or debate,
and the motion having been Withdrawn he went
into history OF the discussion or the paper In
mittee and The feelings which actua ted them in
preparing 1t as iC appeared. He wanted either this
or censure passed.
The Rev. ALFRED TAYLOR made very appropri-
ate, learned and peaceful speech, showing that the
Greek word translated "speak" or ''teach," as
quoted, meant
''BABBLING'; AND ''wRANGLING,"
and not such acts as thus Presbytery are called
the wearing OF gold, pearls and costly array and
bratdng the nair are condemned, and If they dscl-
Ctpltne church FOR one act they must condemn all,
and In so doing they would break up every church
In the city OF Brooklyn.
Mr. LEE also spoke on the question.
vote was then taken upon the motion to table
the commuters report ana II was lOst-l7 yeas to
10 nays. Dr. Van Dyke then moved to take mp the
paper by sections, but Elder Lambert moved TO
take recess until ha-past seven +. NJ for, as ms
church session was on trial. he wanted to have
something TO say on It. An amendment was carried
adjOurning the session until ten O'Clock to-day.