New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-02-05
TWENTY-FIVE DAYS PROCEEDINGS.

have any recollection OF was IN regard 10 the LABOR con-
| tract
O. When did he first speak 10 you in regard 10 the Gen.
eral Order business A. don't recoect that he spoke
particularly until tho conversation Of the week
before last there may have been several converatous
met Gen. Grant at Long Branch frequently dniDg the
| past Summer was stopping there for some weeks;
probably met him half dozen times during NY stay
| there.
wayt don't recolect that was; may have been
O. Did you talk of public matters IN the city here To
| O. Was Mr.. Leet referred to- 4. hayc no rocot
lection OF any conversation with Cen Grant dufns thai
| time.
O. Then, at that time II understand Won, there was
nothing said between Gen Grant and yourself ~ 10 .se,
and the General Order business! y. don't fC.cicttoi
any conversation.
O. The General did not. then manifest any 81 casnre
Let's name was mentioned in conversation that
q You would be very likely to recollect OF coIre, u
the General spoke resentfuly upon the mattcrf A.
O. When was the recent conversation which You say
the only you recollect with Gen. Grant the
subject Of General Order and Mr. Let's connection with
| it A. That was within the last two weeks.
You saw I bn at Your visit 70 To- Washington vhrn
you made when you were abont to appear before tho
Did yo az 90 the 'I %he House al alone
q How long was that conversation 4. Wei, hall an
| hour; may be longer
@ Did You see him in his private his receiving
| room A. In his receiving room.
q. How much OF the entire conversation was gwen to
this subject OF General Order A. Probably Lot more
| than ten or fifteen minutes.
THE OBJECT OF THE VISIT TO WASHINGTON.
@ How did the subject up between You and Gen.
Grant, A. really don't rccOlect how II was opcn,d
expected talk with him about il when there
O. VIII you state why you expected to talk with hint
A. expected to talk TO him because IL mattox
of public Importance course matter that attracted
good deal OF attention. matter somewhat personal
TO him. and knew when went there that The subject
would in all probability, up and expected that
il would.
@ Yon tlOughtit was matter in regard to which
some explanation was due on the part Of Gen. Grant To
the peOpcf A. Well, Sir, thought IL natterwith
knowledge Of facts, far it affected HIM that
important 10 be known 10 the people, the SUBJECT Of
personal eXpianation did not enter my mind.
PLANTATION from him; spoke OF an explanation on his
part in his interest that was due to the coun;ryi Al
connected with should be stated, wAe,her they
O. you think to him to have facts
stated that were against him! A. No. sh; b".
@ But you had Il in yOnr mind when you went wash.
ington did you, that you would and see Cen Grant
for the purpose Of cOnyeTsng with him To the facts
OF the ease which h yon supposed i woald be fer MS
expected although had several other 10 tab 10
him about 10 talk with him about This General Order
but did not understand that expected To talk with
him for the purpose Of eclting matters TO DC made pub
@. wen. really had nothing OF that sort ia my mind
A. Well, If you will be kind enough TO repea; Ihe paes
ton.
O. will ask you whether your idea in gong to see
Gen. Grant the subject of General ord, r. aud
of Let's connection with il, as one upon which u was
for his interest that some explanation should he made Ia
The country; was that your idea A. No; cannot say
conversation except To talk with him abOu. The subjcct
nothing was said TO him about my testyin2 IN this ease
@ have not said that there Was 4. am answering
O. DO understand you to say that you had not then
in the connection Of Lcet with tae general order bas
and the character of that business carried on by
Lect which required any explanation for the country
A. / thought the Bixby Arrangement very bad
arrangement and improper; have not pad sufficient
attention 10 the testimony TO know whether The weight
OF testimony is that they have Improperly conducted
the business since.
AN EXPLANATION NECESSARY.
a. Then do I uudpref M Xon tO thar tIOnglt
that an explanation should be made Of Let's connection
with the General Order business 50 far as Gen Grant
was concernedi A. thought it due that the facts
have tefed here should be testified TO before the
Committee.
O. Do you regard those facts being any PLANTATION
of the matter ts being adverse 10 The position OF
Gen Grant! A regard them rs yindlcation. 20 lar
as they may co. Of Gen. Grants completely with Let
O. Was that the idea YOU mad in your mnd when you
had the interview with Gen. Grant IA W Washington A
o. n Won had not yourself introduced the subject Of
mat conversation with Gen. Grant at Warrington allow
me to say do not think should felt warran ted
officer hut the highest officer in the country; bat AS you
have introduced It, there can be no improperly N my
ton that do not recoect that related to that con-
O. state as nearly as you can how long after this con.
vefsaton with the Committee at the Astor House 1t was
that you went TO Washington A. think went TO
Washington the next night after was before the Com
mitee; arrived there in the morning, and saw the
President about IL o'clock.
O. At the White House n Yes Sir.
O. When did you come back A. The same night
A. No, Sir
e. In ITS bearing upon TINS matttrf A. No, sir; INA
@ Did you not testify last nj ght the
Q, What we're theyi Will you repeat them A. Wen,
do Mt remembers stated that General Rawlns had
informed me that he had asked the President to give
under the mpressiOn that he had stated that
was his recollection; then was asked when that oc-
CURED, and think that was the manner in which tho
conversation came in
q do not regard It as important how it was begun;
s l matter what escd TO- Gould you
q lohy want you TO repeat what you said last night
OF Gen. Grants words TO upon the General Order
business and Lects connection with tl A. don't recol-
Si the PG, % you call my attention to fey points
ana think stated that he expressed his dsapproya Of
the LeetBixby transaction.
q. cannot ind any memorandum OF what you
said but You certainly spoke last night OF certain
General Order business and Leets connection with tt
A. Ny recollection that he expressed his dsaproyal OF
the LeetBiXby transaction; he expressed opinion
business since.
sell TO what YOU stated last night Of this
between you and the President A. Well those are tho
to the request OF Gen RawIins for letter to Mr.
Grnnel for Lee the other was Gen Grants disappoya
Of the LeetBixby transaction.
TIE PLOT BEGINS.
O. When was the first conversation which You had with
Gen. Grant Gen. Porter in regard TO the Generals
views with respect TO Mr.. Leeti A. II was a week
before the time at which those labor-contraet bids
received; think IL here In the Spring
OF 1870.
g II was about May A; think so, but my recolec-
ton " very imperfect at 60 dates.
@ Was 10 not about the time OF the Mudeett trouble
A. Yes about the same time
@ The two things happened within weeki A. Wee,
SIR am quite sure II was before the Mudgett
sation
Q You had talk with Leet 4 Haw In New-York In
reference TO the labor contract A. Yea, Sir.
v Az Che result VI that conversation yoN vent Z"