The sun., 1872-10-09
CREDIT -M0BILIER BRIBERY
oAkEs AMEs AND THE CON0RESs-
MEN NE ACCUSES.
where II the Record in the PennsylvnniA
Law suitt- Oakes Ames Ncfuses to swear
whethcr he Bribed ConErcssncn or Not
Interview with Judge Black.


proper officers OF the Supreme Court of this
state az TO what has become of the record In the
case. There are some disputed points-one In
particular raised by Oakes Ames-which the
record ought to settle. For Instance, Amea
says that the charges Of McOumb were long
since answered on oath by himself and the other
gentlemen connected with him In the man
agement of the corporation.
OAKEs AMEs TRUSTEE OF TUE BRIBrRY FUND.
was fortunate enough TO find in Wash
inston q copy OF the bin Of the com
painant, and the answer thereto OF
the Officers of the Credit Mobilier, and by
volumlnous extracts from both have already
shown that neither Ames nor any OF his ool-
league. in their general answer denied the ale
cations Of the complainant. On the contrary,
In their general answer tho officers admitted
that certain shares Of stock wcro held by Oakes
Amcs as trustee and only denied that they had
been given" away. This was conclusive 50 far
~ II vent.
But had understood on good authority
that Oakes Amcs had been summoned to an
swcr ON oath ~ witness certain questions
to be- proUoundcd him by the plaintiffs counsel.
did not exactly understand this part Of the
case, and to the clucidation Of this have been
directing my attention for some time past
found without any difficulty that hmes had not
been summoned to appear before the examiner
and give his testimony as McComb had, but that
long prior To- the issuing Of a rulo authorizing
the plaintiff TO take testimony before an exam
liner, his counsel had drawn up with great care
"a number Of searching intcrrogatories to Ames
and other of the defendants; that these had
been nlcd and rule granted ON Ames and others
so answer. II was those lntcrrogatorics and the
answers thereto that was anxious to sec or IN
learn the nature Of
TnE RECORD NIssiSO.
with that object In view have made Il faith
ful Tort and for the last three or four days,
must say, strenuous one, 20 learn the exact
state ~ this Oakes Amcs bribery case, which Is
exciting So much attention all over the country.
The American pcOpc VIII not he satisfied until
they got to tho bottom Of the business, and am
dcsifnus ~ helping them all ! can; | wanted
20 Cet n peep at the bottom and tell them before
hand some ~ the things they would discover.
! ma, however mat 1t - q very difficult place To-
reach. have been repeatedly at the Office of
the rrothonutary ~ the Suprcm" Court IN this
city where the record ought to he. But, al
though had n right, as all the public has, to
see II, the cflccr In whose keeping It was, or
should be. ala not exhibit to me the material
aud important part Of II. | saw nothing but the
docket entries which showed thittwo suits had
been brought upward of four wears ago.onc of
both against the Credit Muhilier OF America.
and uakes Ames and divers other indi-
cioted with him In the management ot the
Crcdt Mobilicr aud the Union Pacific Railroad
'
paint lad been ned 10y McComh, and that the
defendants had thereto answered that intern =
atorirs to Ames and Others had been lled, and
answers t. some of these nl,d also. hut neither
the hill of the complainant, the answer thereto,
the intcTucatories addressed To- the several de-
t'nddnis, nor their answers to these interrog.
at all ~ which appear To have been hled
Of record are now in the proper oihce. Whec
they are am unable to say. | am convinced
that C,l Snowdon, the Prothonotary, has not
dove anything Inconsistent with his duty:
fntV 40 Oft fIn lgnn NJ al
Tor the purpose II preventing the public from
getting access to II, or for any other Improper
before IN examiner. who is not now at home,
and i may lc that The record l. In hispossessiOn,
r'ntcr.al part Of the evidence has already been
printed ia TuE SUN-eVcry word ~ Nc
Comb.s t,-timonv al least There are
tow exhibits, confirming and corroborat-
ius some Of hs statements which were
MT published, but they are not ~ vital
importance. The record, especially the inter
rugat urie- and tie answers thereto, do contain
matter which the public j. deeply interested in.
falingfu Ind the re- ri. have cudcavored to
obtain some Trustworthy information about the
answers thereto under oath 0f Cours" a silt
could not he brought IN court ~ justice in a
country whore all judicial proceedings are pub
l!c and these Proceedings he kept secret. MANY
persons, counscllprs, clerks, officers judges
already know all about the contents of this
record. the intcrrogaturtc', aud the answer
thereto, a. well gs the evidence that has been
given m the suit and the " lndcr among them T.
that an a,curat" amt full statement of the
newspapers long dEn.
AVIS oN THE sTAND-HE RFTt-sES TO ANSWER.
After some inquiry have learned something
about the contents ut this record which ann
able to state with positive certainty. Among
other things bearing Directly upon the bribery
question the record discloses this fsct-that
oakc1 Ames was put upon the stand and re-
IogNtories, and wa, asked among other things to
whom he distributed the stock which stands in
his name a trustee, and whether they werr
members OF Congress or not, which question ~
r'fn''d 70 diIsv.r on MS oath. and sin refuses
To- answer!
JrpGE nIACK INTERVIEWED.
Having failed To get sight ~ the record tried
ing counsel of the plaintiff, McComb, believing
that he, Of course, knew all about Il, and that he
would have no objection TO give me candid
statement Of the facts tur the Information Of the
public. went 70 his residence at York. Penn.
hut not finding him at home. and learning thai
hr wa~ Ia Philadelphia, returned 10 this city and
i"uhd tin ~ The Girari House. But my effort
90 Eet Information from him va, as unsuccessful
= my application to the clerk Of the court
to make thlt this was a judicial pro-
| cceding instituted for the sole pur-
pose uf getting redress for a private injury "a
h'. clcrL and he didn't intend TO o., IL before
ihC t"hi.c, or L" mix II up In any way with the
il"mun of the highest character engaged in vast
hu,iuc-, and entertaining political sentiments
| and ha.ins political cunncctions different from
those uf his counsel oll which made IL necCs-
saty for JUICE Black and his colleagues 10 be-
hnN" with caution and delicacI In the manage
could only be observed 10y Il careful abstinence
ifpm al participation In any discussion Of TIC
subject outside of the record.
Correspondent | understand, indeed II
has been stated In the New York papers, appa
emily upon the authority of Col. McCumb, hat
hc intended 10 prepare, or had prepared, a state
mont of his case for the public eye, and had
submitted IL to you for revision.
Judge Black lie did draw up a paper for that
purpose ur with that Intention, and showed IL "a
mo; but did not revise Il, and did not adv q
him 70 publish any communication whatever
Ny colleagues, Mr.. Gowen and MIR. Thompson
| are oi the same opinion that am on this sub.
| iect.
Correspondent But isn't Cob McComb bound
end VIII he not be compelled, to rCpel the az.
saults on himself which have been made by
Ames and utherst
| Judge Black know Of no assault worth re-
plying to. Neither does he They cannot iuiurt
| him. His position financially and his character
personally are imp!egnable.
| CuTrCspuudent-liut Col McComb has made
charges against men In high places who have
heret Otore had large share Of public conf
| dencc and is lie not bound to make those
| charges gpudG
| Judge Black-No, sir! Col McComb never
made any such charges A. YOU speak of Charge,
| were made by Oukes Ames In his letters, and
| Col. McNumh did not produce these letters until
| lc was compelled literally compelled to do II
| 10y the course which the defendants took In the
| cause. Cob MCCumb has not asserted-l do moi
| u'SCrt-that Amos told the truth about the mem
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