New-York tribune., 1872-04-01

were promptly cleared. The ladies wcre tho only
strangers who allowed TO remain during the whoie
OF the discussion Az the reporters let thc IN
terruptions which had taken place during tho carrier
portion OF Mr.. Hcrbcrts speech, were rcdonDicd Con
servavc members Withdrew from their usual places IN
House. and took position behind the BAR NJ the
side entrances. and behind tho Speakers chair AT ths
time Mr. Henley. Mr. Walpole and Two other gentlemen
wcro the only members of the Opposition occupying
their usual places. About 40 Liberal meihperS
were present, who took no part. either py ap
pnise or interruption, in the extraordinary scene
From the less prominent parts Of the House, 10 winch
tho Conservative members had retired. an incessant
clamor arose. Cock-crowng In every variety from the
hoarse cry the Cochin 10 the sbrill note OF tho fann
and other armyard sounds. together with repeated I'M
tations OF and fall Of Mr. Herberts voice. pre-
vented single of tho Speaker from reaching
tho ears those who assumed TO be tho aWtors
When tho clamor was at its hight, Mr Dodson, rushing
from his the Treasury Bench to the box De-
hind which the Prime Minister ordinarily SPEAKS
made an animated and earnest appeal 70 the
Chair, asking whether tho sounds which Issued
from behind the Speakers chair, and from be-
low the bar, were not gross violations OF order The
Speaker In reply stated that the sounds which he had
heard and especially those which had proceeded from
honorable members behind the Chair, were uh'
Goubtedy out OF order In that House, and he could
not refrain from expressing the extreme pain
with which he had witnessed the scene that had
this nterposton Of tho Speaker Mr. Herbert announced
that the would listen to him for five minutes he
would undertake finish his observations within that
time Amid considerable interruptions, involving re.
peated calls TO order the part OF the Chair Mr. Her
bert was allowed to proceed but when the etpira
OF the five minutes for which he had stipulated, he
manifested desire to continue his speech the eamOr
burst forth aiosh with all its former violence Mr. Her
bert said that the interruptions which had taken place
had deprived him OF n minute and half OF the time
granted him, and that If the House would give him that
minute and half lie would be content The Speaker
hereupon and called Mr. Herbert to order stating
that 1t irregular and improper to appeal TO the
House. and that he ought to address himself 10 the Chair
Mr. Herbert then resumed his seat amid the greatest
Citement and confusion.
THE CONSERVATIVES REBUKED.
Mr. Mundela then and administered n very sharp
rcbuke 10 the House. BY its demeanOr, its reputation
FOR dignity OF department destroyed. such
had taken place that night hc had hoped could only
have been witnessed the Othersde of the Channel
He pointed out that the behavior OF certain members
wonld have most unhappy effect because II would be
said that the question had been ho0ed down and not
Monarchy could not have efectuay served the cause
OF Repubcanism as the Conservatives had done by tner
conduct that occasion. As 10 the mail question: they
found in republics the abuses, the cNtraVaganccs and
The curtallmcnt OF liberty which were Ia be deprecated
whether they toos place under mOnarchical or any
other U government. t could not lie denied that
while the British Government was iDonarchieal III FORM
frcUr in fact, and republican In csscDCC
than that OF any other country IN the world
Mr.. Fawcett said he agreed with all that his honorable
friend said 10 the light of the House 10 discuss the
Civil List and last year he would have cordially sup
ported a motion such his honorable friend had pro-
posed. his mind it absolutely impossible that
the motion could dissOclted from the speech which
his honorable friend Gdc in the Autumn. Hear hear
He knew that his honorable friend had stated IN all SIN
cerity that the motion ana tine speech were not neces
riiy connected but he felt certain That the motion had
out O the speech and even more certain tDat he
motion and the speech would he nseparably associated IN
the public mind. Hear, hear lie claimed - strongly
his honorable friend the right OF free discussion not
only upon the Civil List but the best form or
ernmcnt, and hc vcnuTed 10 tell the Conservative party
that attempted 10 stop free discussion as they
had attempted 20 do that evening {" Hear, hear" and
"NO, nOrl the Republican and extreme Demo
cratic party would at feel that in those calling
themselves Conservative they had their most elective
aul efficient allies lI"dr, heaTJ Having t.ld INNS
much, ne felt bound 10 say that he dsapprOvcd great
deal OF the matter and Of the spirit of the speech
which his honorable friend delivered in the
sure OF his honorable friends sincerity when he
said he did not intend his speech 10 be personal
attack upon the Queen but hc could not conceal from
himself ihe fact out Of every 100 persons who
Vcycd personal attack upon the Queen. II he, holding
public position had had tho things said about
m that his honorable friend said about the Qneen, he
should have that until ho had cleared himself from
implied rcprOlch he could Scarcely venture to meet
ms fellow men in society or 20 walk about as one who
was completely shtiOrward and honest. lCheerS.l
DIVISION.
Nj Liddcll denied that the Conservative party had at
tempted to stac discussion Sir C. Dixie briefly replied
denying that tie Prime Minister had disprOyed of
his statements. On division, two members Sir VII
f1d Lawson aud Mr. Anderson voted for the notion
and against Many Of the prominent Radicals did
not