The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-09-02

OF our country when We saw its colors associated
with so noble an undertaking.
REPoRTER-Had Stanley many persons with him
CArrAIN-He had all the survivors Of the expedi-
tion-Selim, the Jerusalem boy and the other ma
are aware that the two white men had deserted
him ON the journey into the interior. don't think
their loss was very serious as they did not amount
REroRTER-was stanley greatly worm
CAPTAIN-Fearfully. His
HAIR HAD TURNED QUITE GRAY.
His body was wasted and emacated, and he looked
more like man OF fOrty-1ve than OF twenty-six.
wnen rst saw him ne was o suneTng 9m an as
cruited wonderfully, and In few days he pre-
sented a very different appearance. He was the
guest OF the American Consul, MIR. John A. Webb,
during his stay, who was extremely proud OF his
cOuntryman.
REPoRTER-what was the feeling at Zanzibar
CAPTAN-Ohl most extraordinary feeling. No
event ever occurred ut the port which produced so
profound sensation: Among the English resi-
and his discoveries was great, but mingled with 1t
was certain amount Of chagrin that an American
tngnished traveller. This very natural way Of
thinking was, however thrown In the shade by the
JOY experienced at the intelligence that
THE DOCTOR WAS ALIVE
ana the honors and attentions showered upon his
Giscoverer were given with no grudglng hand
to take the initiative In the matter, and myself
had the honor OF entertaining Mr.. Stanley at din
the pleasant AFFAIRS in Which have ever pn1 par
ticipated. Mr.. Stanley was the life OF the party,
and the stories and anecdotes he told were listened
10 with GREATNESS attention by all present. The
Sultan OF Zanzibar also gave grand Jgte in honor
Of Stanley. at which was present It was very
grand AFFAIR, the Sultan exerting himself to the
REroRTER-Had the English expedition arrived
by this timer
CAPTAIN-Oh, yes. Lieutenant Dawson was there
before we came, and was guest at my table. lie
10 perfect specimen OF gentleman. and was one
WELCOME AND coNGR Ar,I ATE STANLEY
v Mnen ne saw the proofs that Stanley brought he
Knew that his mission was at an end, and being
convinced that 1t was useless for him to penetrate
iurther INTO the INTERIOR the purpose for which he
had been sent having been accomplished he re-
0nd officer, who in turn surrendered 1t to young
Livingstone, and he finally broke 1t up, after taking
such supplies Us he thought his father would re-
REponTEH-Did young Livingstone want to go on
CApTAIN-No he did not He is not Of very ad-
venturous turn Of mind, and the prospect OF the
journey frightened him, though
STANLEY URGED HIM TO GO
In my presence. He did not, however, think 1t
necessary to do so, and when Dawson gave up the
command he thought 1t better not to go. Stanley
dld not advise Lieutenant Dawson to pursue any
particular course. Dawson acted on his own re-
sponsibilty, and he considered his action was the
circumstances. took the Lieutenant as far as
st. Helena on my return, where left him, lie re-
naming to take the first steamer for England.
REPORTER-Did you see DR.. Kirk, the British
Consult
CArrANl saw him. but had no talk with him
about the expedition The letters he received
from the Doctor, was told however, gave him
great pleasure, and he was
DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO STANLEY
for having brought them. He had been the only
correspondent the Doctor had In Zanzibar, and the
sight OF the familiar handwriting was great re-
he had SO long labored. The style OF the compost
ton, too, was very reassurng, the contents OF the
letters presenting all the Doctors peculiarites and
he regarded the discovery as one of the greatest
achievements Of the age.
REPORTER-Dd you hear anything OF the COM
plants the Doctor made about the treatment he
had received from KirkP
CAPTAIN-I heard Stanley speak about IL, but
did not pay much attention to the matter. ! be-
ieve 1t was some neglect in the forwarding OF
stores that was complained OF. He cannot, though,
complain OF any lack OF supplies for some years to
come, as Stanley left him SUFFICIENT to last for five
years; and not content with this. he was person
ally experimenting the caravan which was to be
forwarded to him Immediately that 1t could be got
In readiness Stanleys attachment to the Doctor
convinced him that II any green hand would ar
range the supplies the arfair would be bungled.
SO, In order that there might be no mistake,
HE FIXED EVERYTHING HIMSELF.
particulars Of the journey into the interior. You
himself He is firmly persuaded that Iivlngstone
win successfully accomplish the great mission he
| has undertaken and Is convinced that he is per-
Doctor wrapped up In his work that he sent letters
to various persons In Zanzibar requesting that no
further expedition would be sent after him, as he
has everything he requires and wishes to prosecute
his work undisturbed.
REP0RrER-Did you leave Mr.. Stanley behind ?
CAPTAIN-Yes; / left him waiting to catch the
first steamer for Bombay; and as one was ex-
pected to sail In week suppose he left Zanzibar
on 1t. l took Lieutenant Dawson and let him or
This terminated our conversation, and thanking
Captain Russell for his valuable information the
reporter withdrew; the letters ana dog the Cap
made to Stanley.