New-York tribune., 1872-03-28

"You never spoke TO me about it." when Cbapbrun re-
pied l Dever trouble you with my private affairs"
| An UTRIEgDLY COMMITTEE.
Mr.. Carpenter-You said that the 2ith Of December
/ friend In the Senate called you. Who was hei
Mr.. eumner--As Senator must decline 10 answer.
Mr. Carpenter-Have you had any conversation with
parties other than Senator schurz and the other Senator
Mr.. suInner-I decline to answer an improper ques-
ton.
fdental letter naming persons who might be called
witnesses From whom did you receive that letteri
Mr. sumner-I decline to answer, as my correspondent
Mr: icarpenter-I understood you 70 say You had
name am OF OF any one st,,r OF the writersi
Mr.. Carpenter-Wil you give part OF the letters.
Mr.. suInner-I think I have handed all Of them 70
| Senator schurz to use at his discretion.
Mr.. Carpenter-Did understand you 10 cay that by
parliamentary rule In constituting committee the mem
bers must believe that the party charged s guiltyi
Mr.. sumner-I hope you win not put that question.
Mr.. Carpenter-I have.
Mr.. Carpenter-Did not every member Of this Commit
tee vote for the investigationf
Mr.. humner-rhe record will answer
a coee n0s syorse eow 10 0s be no
searching investigation and voted for the resolution
Mr.. 5amner-The record shows that several members
OF this Committee declared again and again against what
parliamentary writer's call the thing"
Mr. Carpenter-Did l not say was In favor OF the
Mr sumnereYes, but after you made speech show
ing there necessity for 1t. SO, IL there is
vitality In the rule you are disqualified and ought to
Mr.; carpenteT.I thank you for your advice. II the
Senate thought M 10 put me on the Committee would II
not have been immodest in me 10 declinei
Mr. Sunper-You should have searched your own con-
Mr. Carpenter-My conscience is perfectly clear.
Mr.. suuiner-I viii onter into no controversy: was
at home under medical treatment ON the day The Com,
mittee was appointed. II had been in the Senate
should have felt IL my duty TO oppose the formation OF
the Committee, and hold 1t mp as fagrat violation OF
After further questioning Mr. Carpenter objected 10
Mr. Summers protests going on the record as they as
sailed the committee. 49,
Mr. Hamln regarded them as absolutely insnlting 70
the Committee, and then asked Mr.: Sumner whether
Chambrun had furnished him with the names OF Wit
Mr.. Sumner replied he had not, nor had he furnished
TO him OF Information. He thought however be
MI schnrz asked Would ;you Consider 1t iegitirnate
derive Information matters OF public business from
Mr. sumner-NOt the least / should fail In my duty
senator if 1 did not obtain iniormation from all
on account Of color and believe u 70 be the duty OF
Information affecting the interests OF the country and he
Mr Hamlin-Would you deem IL the dlty OF patri-
otc Senator to inquire OF foreign legation TO questions
tending 10 put his Government In the wrong with other
Governments who have made no complaint
Mr. Suinner-That Is an abstract question. but ON this
point, ani Obliged TO say that 10 such question here
Mr. schurz--In the before the Government about
the Venezuelan claims where charges were made against
the Commissioners OF improper awards and 1t was being
invest gated by Congress- would consider It proper
in order to ascertain facts to the conduct OF the Amer
lean Commissioners, for Senator to obtain any iniorma
ton on that subject from the Venezuelan legation.
Mr. Sumner said he should deem II 10 nc hl6 duty 10 90
tain the information matter nom what quarter In
offering his for this inquiry he considered our
neutrality had violated, while 10 his judgment
that no complaint would come from Germany.
Mr. Hamlin said that Others might have their Judg-
ment.
on the part Of Government affecting Great Britain
which she did not t make the subject Of complaint,
and Won had come possess0n Of facs from the British
legation TO show Government was IN the wrong,
would you feel It TO be duty to enter the Senate and
spread them before the world
Mr.. snmuer replied That is an abstract question
senator governed by sense OF duty II ne sees
the character OF the Government suffering and ts on
GERS falling under suspicion. establishing dangerous
precedent must prevent the precedent from beng &C.
| tablished.
the main facts the case far the international
oueson concerned first spread broadcast over
1 the world Was 1t not on the trial OF Place
Mr. Samner in response, exhibited the account OF the
trial as appeared In Pans journal The letter OF Nr
! Renin gton lie Cesne filed In open court. The
documents fled Jan. TO- In response TO question
| by Mr. CARPENTER Mr.. sumner said he received copy
OF Mr.. Beknaps letter 10 Secretary Fish from NJ DE-
Chambrun and he understood he M de C had received
copy Of RemingtOn's letter from Place Mr.. Sumner
| then retired.
Mr Carpenter renewed his motion 10 return the pro
tests to Mr. Sumner but, motion OF Mr.. Stevenson,
the motion postponed until there should be iul!
/ Committee
! The Committee then adjourned until tomorrow.