The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-08-05
LIVINGSTONE and STANLEY.
Mr.. Stanley Interviewed at Marsenles
by an English Journalist.
APPEARANCE OF THE HERALD EXPLORER.
Conversation on the Result Of Liv-
ingstOne's Explorations.
DIR. KIRK I'm A BAD LIGHT.

DIX. KIRK In "A BAD LIGHT.
[Frem the London Daily Telegraph, July 2Sl
MARsEILLEs July "a, 1872
1 have been fortunate enough to anticipate here
that news from Central Africa and from Its greatest
explorer for which Europe and America have for
weeks ana months been anxiously on the watch.
As every incident regarding the meeting between
Livingstone and the enterprising American who
tracked him out at Ui cannot foil to Of interest,"
shall make no apology for any casual details that
perchance might otherwise seem trivial.
WAITING FOR THE TRAVELLER.
You know already that Mr.. Stanley, the Com
missioner Of the NEW YORK HERALD, left Alden
some days ago, accompanied by the son OF DIR.
Livingstone, who had gone out with the recent
English Search Expediton-the two bearing letters
from the traveller to his friends and TO the
British government. The steamer by which they
took passage for this port was the Meikong,
which belongs to the Services Maritimes des Mes
sageries Nationales, and carried the China mail
from Alexandra. The European manager Of the
NEW YORK HERALD (Dr. H0smer) had been wait
ing at Marseies for some days to receive his dis
tinguished colleague; but both he and your cor.
respOndentwere assured last night that there was
no chance Of the steamer-which had been day or
two Overdue-arriving until this morning.
AGAIN SUCCESSFUL IN HIS EXPLORATIONS.
They consequently retired to rest; but were most
agreeably disturbed; for at two in the morning
they were aroused by Mr.. Stanley himself who
had quilted the MeikOng Immediately on her
arrival, leaving Mr.. Livingstone on board. Mr..
Stanley had learned at Suez by telegram that DR..
Hosmer awaited him at Marseilles, but he
did not know the name OF the hotel
to which he should 60; so he deliberately
ncfi fnta1 IN NJ oil fho
in the city until he found us. When he accom-.
plished this discovery, he made no ceremony about
knocking us up, walking quietly into the room
and simply saying, by way Of all introduction,
"Mr. Stanley" Warm congratulations of course,
passed upon his success and his safe arrival far
on his journey home; all thought Of further sleep
for the night was abandoned, and having obtained
some of the best wine at command In which to
drink the health Of the man who had SO arduousy
and successfully explored for the explorer, we sat
up till morning, listening to the recital of the mar
vellOus adventures and discoveries Of Livingstone,
and the not much less wonderful adventures and
escapes Of Mr.. Stanley himself.
HOW STANLEY LOOKS AFTER WHAT HE HAS GONE
THROUGH.
1t is with some regret that must commence
by saying that Mr. Stanley Ia not an Englshman
or rather Welshman-as was recently reported
not by any means, after all his exposure and
fatigue, in such robust health as might be de-
sired, and he will probably find it neces-
sary to break his journey to London,
where he may be expected to arrive about
the middle of next week. Mr.. Stanley is a
comparatively young man, having scarcely con-
cluded his third decade. He stands about five
feet seven inches high; he has very broad chest
and powerfullooking kame, and most inte
gent expression Of cOuntenance; his hair, ma
turally curling and once light in color has turned
posure to The weather and the severe and repeated
fact, prostrated by the special disease Of the
country no fewer than twenty-three times. Through
inevitable haste in the preparation OF the summary
substance Of many columns OF Mr.. Stanley's de-
spatSthss one or two have
occasion Of correcting. The broad fact which re-
IIvINGsroNE's DISCOVERIES
he says is that there are three lines OF drainage in
the central region Of Africa which he explored The
frst line was that discovered bv Captain spoke and
stituted between the Lake Tanganylka and the
Lake Albert Nyanza, discovered by Baker. But the
third and grand line of drainage Is that now made
known to us by Livingstone, under the various
names Of the Chambesi, the Luapula and the Lua-
laba-a these three rivers being really one and the
same great stream, bearing different names in diff
ferent regions, bestowed by the people through
whose country 1t passes. This triple-named river
THE MEETING BETWEEN STANLEY AND LIVINGSTONE.
stated, he met DR.. Livingstone at Viii. on the
eastern shore of Lake Tanganyika, on the 10th of
November ISL when the dry and formal eerS,
presence Of the Arabs. "But," said Mr.. Stanley,
1.-THE Arabs knew that we must have something
and, although their principal men wanted to put
multitude OF questions to me, they voluntarily
e sSsr to sys msn the % naee
lost a son In the battle In which we were engaged
my way up the country 80 sent my head
attendant but who none the less on one
occasion tried to M PLAY me tel the
greatest animation the mutual Joy Of DR.. Living
stone and himself when at last they found them.
selves alone , and at liberty to give 1nrestraned
praises Of the personal character Of the great ex-
plorer. whom he holds to be zone OF the bfavest
iiVing Rpelss, gentlemen eaa tEusst Christians
sswHEN WE WERE ALONE"
relates Mr.. Stanley, 81 handed to him packet OF
finished reading them he should next be told all
the news from the civilized world, so far as !
myself knew them; No. no. said Livingstone;
from home, and can AFFORD to wait few
hours longer; give me the news of the worldI'
Of; the Striking Striking events Of the ' FrsncoGer
man war; the capture OF Napoleon, the flight
OF the Empress and declaration OF the republic; The
General Grant In America; the opening Of the
Pacific Railroad, and whatever else thought
likely TO be interrsstfng to one who had lived SO
!.Sc1g ut such remoteness from the movements OF
civilization One of the very first questions which
he pnt, with view to suppemenyng my budget Of
old friend,' Sir R9derick Murchison. I answered
that at my latest ad,ices he quite well, for 1t
was only on my return to the coast that learnt
OF his death, which since knew had happened only
about three weeks before I saw the traveller In
whose eventual safety the veteran President so
stanchly believed. Although Dr. Livingstone had
been absent from his native country so long he
spoke English perfectly, both In phrase and In ac-
cent"
LIvINGsToNEs NARRATIVE.
CATER had told Livingstone everything" con-