The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-09-04
Lieutenant Governor or Congressman
at Large and State Prison In
pector for the Liberals.
THE G0vERN0RsHyP STRUGGLE.
Herman, Reach, Scheh and Potter
i'm the Field.
Judge Church Again Satd to Have
Declined.
"A Largo and Harmonious Gathering at
the Salt City.

SYRACUSE, N. Y, Sept. 8, 1872
Judging from the present indications the two
Conventions which meet in this city tomorrow will
he more numerously attended than has been the
~case in any State Convention OF either party for
many years past. Even as early as yesterday every
room In tie various hotels had been secured, and
now the inevitable cot Is met with at every step
one takes in the hallway. indeed, the crush has
exceeded general expectation, and 1t Is
quite likely that the late corners tonight
will have TO find quart RS in private
houses. In addition to regular delegates hundreds
OF more less prominent politicians Of both
parties from the various counties have putin an ap-
learance and have already made themselves quite
active in tie outside manCcuverings for or against
the various candidates which have been going on
all day. 4he attendance of
PROMINENT LIBERAL REPUBLICANS
who are not delegates is very large, and, taken
IN connection with the sec0nl-1ddle bust
ness the Liberal Convention is destined
to play tomorrow, is quite significant,
TO say the least. Old politicians who have been IN
tie traces for years express little surprise at
the strength and responsibility OF the liberal dele
cations, which are Tor the most part composed OF
Ole republicans, who were among the organizers of
the party, and who have, up to lately been classed
among the extreme radicals. or course, in a few
instances, the delegations from certain counties
SNACK CONSIDERABLY OF THE soREHEAD ORDER;
tut it Is conceded all sides that as an out-and-
out repre- sentation of republcanisn, as 1t was
known in Lincons time, the Liberia! Convention
tomorrow win completely eclipse the late Utica
gathering, where the regulars had everything their
own way. Strange to say, although the question
ar to what the two Conventions will do tomorrow
is the chief topic, conversation in the streets, in
hotels, and in fact everywhere turns, Is MOTH
ing that may be called excitement among either
the democrats or the republicans The delegates
are
IN NO WISE DEMONsTRATIvE.
and when they are encountered here and there in
little groups talking over the situation the con-
yersation Is invariably carried In subdued tones,
rs though each was fearful lest passer-by might
learn more than good Tor him. People who
may have had occasion In years past to attend the
1ammany conventions, where the enthusiasm
always ran high ana the powwOws that were
carried beforehand were INDUCED in
with all possible loud noise and buster,
VIII, no doubt, be rather surprised at
this, and may at the same time be somewhat at
loss how to account for the change 1t is more
than probable that the absence OF the old-time
hangers OF the Old "Rng'' has had great deal
to do with it, as it has been a subject OF general
remark 50 far that the FOUNDERS and bullies and
plug uges who, up to very late period, never
1aed TO show up at Democratic State Conven-
tion, have at last apparently come to the conclu-
sion that their services were longer required to
make out ticket for the people to stand by. And
now few words about
Tue GENERAL OUTLOOK.
do not think would be exactly borne out by
the facts in asserting that things up to this hour
of writing look particularly mixed" but 1t must
be- said that the situation is not decided as it
might be. in the first place the candidates for
Governor are quite numerous and in the second
place although every one OF them is good man In
his way, there seems to be growing disposition on
athe part Of liberals to have bigger day about who
e the coming man shall be than may be in the long
run pleasing to the democrats, who, it must be
confessed, despite their desire to work harmo-
niously with other sides, not yet willing to
treat
THEIR NEwLY-MADE FRIENDS AS EQUALS.
OF course, it Is not to be understood that the
liberals are at all anxious to have a republican
head the ticket, but, them they to either win
Or lose III the campaign with the democrats, they
feel that they have the right to interpose decided
dissection to the placing Of man in the field whom
the liberal masses would not heartily support. What
We want, they say, is not man whom you can say
a great IDEAL in favor Of but man whom you can't
say anything against. The prominent cand-
dates, SO FAR, Tor the GOvernorship are
Francis Ki ernan, Alien G. Beach, the present Lieu
tenant Go, ernor, and Augustus schell GARRISON
n. Potter ard General socum have also been men.
toned. but the real interest all day to-day has
centered upon Herman, Beach and Schell. SO far
kernan's ha.nces seem to he the best although 1t
is pretty certa In that Beach WILL when the time
comes, show the best organized strength OF any OF
the candidates. 10 Herman the liberals seem TO
have decided objections. As l said before,
they are rather delicate about the mat.
ter, not wishing to he looked upon as die
ta,ing 10 the democrats wnat they should do,
but they claim tina I Me. nan not only would not
unite liberals and d, mocrats in the campaign but,
on the contrary, be the cause OF send,ng many Of
:. the former over TO tie republican camp. They
believe aud many Oh the denoc. ats agree with
them In the opinion mat his nomination would
dag into The contest thu secarian question well
as the Old trouble a3oait the 18th OF July riots
which laid lionman on the shelf. 'Tildea
and seymour, who are both here, and
however. they scout The idea that their fayorite
mated. Sche is also here and although he keeps
himself coseted in his room az we olacnse House,
W"rting ike beay4.Is. II the objection Of the
liberals to Herman should rule Nm Mn o1 at, Of the
iarters supporters would GO over .,, IN .
body to Schcll who s.'ems 70 nave consiueraule
siIength with ne delegates from 1n' t6n inferior how
ever; seem to thipk his nou. ipatioh Wou"' oo" wv
~ SELL OUT TO THE vAsb.gRBIrr INTEREST,
and that the next legislature In conjunction WIN
Sce as Governor might be made 20 n conn'
trymen have holy horror. On the other land,
there are many who advocate his nt'minatCu soiey
on the ground Of the material AID re party TSWWle
want money as well as votes said lib ra repVo
can 20 me to-day, when asked his oph. ion about
Schcs chances, "and II we nominate Schei we
will get both. lie is unexceptionabcN to the
masses, and would be certain to get the reform
here, In this connection, that the New Y,rE
city democratic delegation win support sches'
rs tSs e he ss rb sos' he'd mes
ing this evening at the Vanderbilt House,