The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-05-15

ture OF their vessels and properly uy tue aiaoaha
Florida and Shenandoah and that no sqch form OF
EXPRESSION as s.the Alabama claims had ever.
down TO this time, been used 10 descrlne even tne
claims In respect oil those captures, Huch less 10
'o''p VAGUE AND ISpErMArE DEMANDS
of indemnity TO the general mercsntiie or national
Interests OF the United States. on the accession OF
Lord Derby 10 power MI. Seward, 10 despatch 10
Mr.. Adams dated the 27th of August 1855 thus dc,
fined the claims, which II had been the object OF
the United States to press In the preceding corre
spondence, and OF which he now again instructed
You viii herewith receive summary OF
claims Of citizens . p,, OF the o. nnaea
which suffered by them during the period OF
our late civil war and some months by means OF
depredations upon our commerciSl marine r. CON- ON
bama the Florida, the Shenandoah and other
ships, Of war, which were r+ built a mannea,
BRUSH ia ports "pP and despatched therefrom BY
or through the agency of British subjects, and
nished as occasion required during their devas.
tating career in ports OF the realm OF ia ports OF
British colonies In nearly al parts OF the 9, mt
presents such recaptulation OF the claims as the
evidence so lar received In this department
viii be supplied hereafter. Most of the claims
have been from time to time brought by yourself
Majesty's government, and made the subject Of
earnest and continued appeal. That appeal was
ntermitted only when Her Majestys government
q Joint claims commission, or to submit
arbitration The United states, on the other hand
have all the time insisted upon the claims as just
anu valid. This attitude has been, and donbtlessly
continues to be, well understood by Her Ma
jesty's government. The considerations which
inclined this government to suspend, for
ams one q cneat britain are these
political excitement In Great Britain which
did not immediately subside at its conclusion,
seemed to render that period somewhat uniayor-
able to deliberate examination Of The very grave
United States have been explained by
with Earn Russell and Lord Clarendon
In this respect there seems to be no deficiency
dents desire that you now can the attention Of
Lord Stanley to the claims In respectful, but car
nest, manner. and inform him that, in the Presi.
urgently necessary to a reestabiisnment ofentireiy
friendly relations between the United States
%Se u thus siss npon sss me-
particular claims, Is neither DESTROYS nor
tory towards Great Britain. IT, on her part, there
are claims, either of commercial character or Of
boundary or Of commercial or judicial regnlaton
the United States would IN such case
sideration in connection with the clanse which
are now presented on their part, and with a view
to remove at one time and BY one Comprehensive
Mr. Seward proceeded to recommend, in support Of
's@ sgs Of
the recognition Of Southern beligerency
so@ es sae United to sss wses
NJ; IT., Adams H asdeS:7sTSs claims agoh s
anset the interests Of many thousand citizens
Of the United States In various parts OF the
sy the the 81 Of y peoe
OF the United states.n The claims specified
the s to s wS sss
against Great Btan) )" relates exclusively to losses
sustained by the owners and insurers of divers
ships and cargoes captured by the Alabama, the
Shenandoah the Florida and the Georgia, respect
lively.
This despatch having been communicated by Mr..
Adams to Lord Stanley His Lordship, through Sir F.
Bruce tI.ord Stanley to Sir F. Bruce November 30,
an accidental error Of Mr.. seward, in mentioning
the Sumter, which did not proceed from British
Sat ss career American M sHanng a
M,ssissippi Then AFTER deang with Mr.. sewar0s
ground taken by former governments SO far as to
admit the liability OF this country for the claims
te ma ana put ms
ence OF unsettled claims Of this character
between two Powers and friendly govern.
9ttingp Arbitrator could Be- ond and mat an mag agree
6itration should apply He objected to refer TO
the aseOn Of the alleged
very remotely on the claims now in
6 s to ws 81 m state n nn &c
despatch to Sir F. Bruce OF the same date he says
~ have confined myself exclusively to the consd
THE AMERICAN CLAIMS PUT FORWARD IN MR.. SEW
ARDS DESPATCH
10 Mr. Adams OF the 9th August and arising ont OF
| the depredations committed on American commerce
by certain cruisers OF the Confederate States but
ndePenasnty Of these claims there may for aagns
on the part OF American citizens originating In the
events OF the late ciyn war, while there certainly
those events which It is very desirable should be
inquired into and adjusted between the two coun-
tries. The government Of the United States have
brought before that Of Her Majesty one class Of
/ CLAIMS or A PECULIAR CHARACTER,
which yoa are authorized BY my other despatch Of
this date TO make proposal to Mr.. Seward, but
Her Majesty's government have no corresponding
American s governments ri And he presently after ,
wards speaks Of Sthe special American claims ITO
When aSSpted sna IN
his reply to Sir F. Bruce, 18th January, 1867.
/ PRACTICAL CONCLUSION.
In further despatch to Mr.. Adams, '12th Janu-
! airy, 1897" Mr.. Seward justifes and reaffrms the
sentence in his letter of the 27th Of August in
admitted II into the British ports Trinidad and
latter port ITO British buyers for the
account and benefit OF the insurgents. and
afterwards received under the British nag at Liver
poOlr His practical conclusion Is that the United
States think II not only easier but more desirable
that Great Britain should acknowledge and satisfy
the claims for indemnity which we have submitted
than II would be to find an equal and wise arbi-
traitor who would consent to adjudicate
them. IT, however, Her Maesty's govern
ment, for reasons satisfactory to them, should
prefer the remedy of arbitration the
United States would not object The United States
in that case would expect to refer the whole con-
troversy just as it Is found In the correspondence
which1as taken place between the two govern
ments, with such further evidence and arguments
as either party may desire, without imposing re-
strictions, conditions limitations upon the um-
pire, and without waving any principle
or argument on either side. They can
not consent TO waive any question
upon the consideration that it involves
n point Of national honor, and on the other hand
they will not require that any question OF national
pride or honor shall be expressly ruled and deter
mined AZ such" To this Lord Stanley, 9th March,
1851 10 Sir r. Bruce, replied ITO such an extern
Rye and unlimited reference Her MaIestys govern