New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-03-09

| Mr.. Burrill-we object.
Mr. Garvey said he would have go into that ques-
| ton In order 10 IL the amount on this one hill.
Mr Bnrril-Cant he state how much the overcharge
Mr.. Tremsin-This bin is part and parcel OF the sys,
Il Is utterly impossible to take single bill and separate
| II from its cOmpeers
Judge DAILY TO Mr. Gsrvey,-rs that soi
Mr. Garvey-it Is TO separate, to certain extent this
ARRANGEMENT OF ours nearly all cOncoced and made
A long discussion here arose, Mr.. IBurrin stating
that their objection TO this testimony that
lowed would be for the prosecution TO prove the fact
that tins was fraudulent and dishonest claim. The
fraudulent or under what arrangement 1t was made
was matter that did not concern them.
Judge Day-I do MT propose to allow any evidence.
Mr. stoughton-Let me make a suggestion that put
quest TO the witness-whether he cannot by little
calculation, state how much was added TO this bin
which Is beyond the just amounts. Cannot you, Mr.
Mr. Tremain-I prefer not 70 have the counsel
examine at this time. ! am pursuing the exact course
H. that we have night to show the nature and fonnda
ton Of that claim | asked that9ue5tlon. The witness
then proceed, 10 state the general plan or arrangement
under which this bill was presented embracing this ac-
count and others Go and answer further what was
the foundation OF this particular clam.
MI Straightforward viii see whether an arrangement be-
tween parties perfectly unknown TO the Mayor, with
whom he had nothing TO do are to be brought INTO this
Mr. Tremain interrupted the speaker
Mr. stoughOn-Wait n moment, we are Directing TO
your question When my brother objected TO putting
question to him whether he could ascertain how much Of
this bill was fraudulent by calculation, Mr.. Garyey
replied that he could At any rate the 'ton is under
How much was that beyond It's honest due What We
view 10 doing That and alnySo him 10 STATE what was
done-not the arrangement under which n was done
between parties with whom We have nothing To- do.
submit with great respect that you would not submit to
that.
Mr. stOughtOn-Al wish to say Is that, IL he cannot
state the exact nature of the bill without stating the
arrangement between other parties with whom we nave
nothing 10 do, that arrangement cannot antct us hod
in hand what was taken down from the lips OF the
wtnesstha he could state what was improperly allowed
him upon this bill, If he was allowed time Tor cacua-
cannot state tue additions put to u without stating an
arrangement between parties we nave hothHhg u uo
PRANK CONFESSION.
@. Explain the Of this bill as far as you
can without entering upon the other matersi A. We'll,
the amount claimed for work on the Courthouse, In
the armory buildings and dr-roons was s2Gi66O; work
done progress and there due to me for other
purposes that I was expected 10 square IN my bills.
tI26OO then added $1,000 for myself for expenses of
the Fall-politcai sAPrnsT ,5 N ytD owl
| MIR CnnIon-Obiections must be addressed to the
WifnessIThat was the money I expected to get paid
| az the bank. - ,. A., 49,. IN. o, ,,r,,,,, ,o,,r
Mr.. Burri-The witnes. docs not seem 10 lulu" !"i
| HOnor's instruction,
Mr.. Tremain-Yes he does.
Mr.. Burri.l-He seems rather willing 10 indulge IN tN-
pres-on- that nothing To do with The case. All we
ask IA, that in eciting evidence which might ee le
the Court does not allow evidence 10 oe lntr3dtu oi
other bills which are not the subject 81 TINS INDICTMENT
and " bills other than this one now before the Court
Judge Daly-Mr. Garyey proper inquiry can be made
into this bill for si10o as to how originated You can
Ike e
ter except essential to explain that Keep
much as possible out OF any Other mattel M, tho
Mr.. Burril-AllOw me a suggestion. lie ms got the
bill Of sI can't he state how much OF that bul Is
| honest or not -. :, s.,- III.
O. Now follow the suggestions Of The Court Mr. GarNey
A. hada $4,000 claimed TO he PAID and made up my
O Mr.. BnrnIl-we object TO any other bills.
Witness-i made mp tts bill for sllOs' win view of
paving certain proportion; received IS per cent Of
The bill the interest had nothing 10 do with IL; took
nd my |
more than my estimate-S95 600; received think
| that got back my money and paid for the bills had
advanced received but IS per cent OF the net bill With
O. And thu. was one OF the bills thus made out, A.
That Is pretty fair copy OF that Pill M ht,s tho. o
presented which you received back this s195,60Oi
he wa % r mi WA. were
there Hthsr S Se Of auditing at the
same time-the same day
| Mf, Cinton-It is a part OF the res gsstoe.
Mr. Burril-No; it Is not as underrrnd it, there are
four other indictments against the Mayor covering THESE
Mr. Peckham-Covering no other bills on this subject.
Mr.. Burrll-I don't care for that; Won't take your
Judge Daly-I don't propose to allow in any other bill
| except the under investigation.
O. You commenced by stating portion OF the items
constituted the foundation OF this claim as part OF
| other claims that were presented A Yes, sir. -,
q. Did you have paper IN your hand giving all the
| O. viii you state the balance Of them
Mr. Rurill objected referring to other claims than
that under dscIssoD but the Court overrued the obec
| ton.
Question repeated. A. There 10000 in cash said
to he for matters connexion with the Legislature and
which was taken TO Albany TO Mr.. VIM NJ Tweed by my
| brother; there was 10000 for working expenses III
Greeuwich Conn., IN 1869 and 1870, for Wm N. Tweed ;
work ny his Cosscob; two amounts, 10000 for
friend; $1,000 for work done in Norfolk for Mr. Wood
ward pastering two houses for Walter Roche
| In FIfty-hfth-st. laughter gave Mr. Roche receipt
for il IN the room down starr bu never ire,eitrd Nun
o. Your own assessments A. Yes.
o. There were two houses for Roche. one for Tweed
and one hor a friend A. Yes, olr'
Mr. shafer with great warmth-I will not sit here
ISOLATED III this defeuse and permit evidence OF THIS
'D Coart@it is ruled ont.
O. Under the ruling OF the Court will ask you in the
first place to state II these accounts were ON printed
q. Where did YOU get them: A. In the office of the
@ Who gave them to youi A. Sometimes they were
gwen to by Woodward, and sometimes was told 10
were there for those who had bills to present.
O. Did you receive in the Controllers Office amemoran
dun OF the amount you were to present In your Dill
! Judge Daiy-what is the question:
Mr.. TreWan-l want 10 know whether be received at
the Controllers office. before he made up his bill at the
time of receiving the blank, written lnei0rdndiih
Mr. Tremsin subsequently reserved the question for
o. Was this account upon the blank obtained at the
CONTROLLER office A. AT the aed an Sy YOU
did obtain tins blank want me d PrG"ar copy
think that usually had few OF these blanks W NE
! for convenience, at my desk at home. , -,
q Now theu, take tins particular account anu IiNc
history from the time you presented t untn you
finally received the warrant; state all you know about
! can Judge, that account was rendered -, 4.
Mr. Burrill objected, the witness was not sho"h "
speak positively Of THE particular account III hoie amos
| Nj. TreHafs that any reason why the "noie ques-