New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-02-21
QUARANTINE ABUSES.
THE INVESTIGATION OF THE ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE.

TtpVCCu.N A PARTY TO THE EXACrIONS OF
Tur TIGHTENING COMPANY-TRADE DRIVEN
From THE CITY BY THE QUARANTINE EX-
ToRTIoNs-THE EXPOSURES OF THE TRIBUNE
FULLY CONFIRMED.
That portion of tho Assembly Committee
on Commerce and Navigation" charged with the invcs-
tcaon Of the abuses Quarantine consisting OF Messrs
Abcrgcr Judd and Campbell, met yesterday at 10, at
the ST. Nicholas Hotel
Geo W White, doing business at No. Ill Grandst" ana
residing in Brooklyn. first called. He testified;
In tho Summer Of 1870 I partially engaged IN the
Quarantine business was first introduced TO TWO men
REGISTRATIONS with the Health Officer for the lighterng
stevcdorng towing, and cooperng OF all veses az ~
antinc after my introduction 10 these parties was u,
last Induced oake an interest sought q 96sp @ade gp
hch we were TO present to him. of our capa-
htics of doing the work OF Quarantine.
Mr. Johnson here rose, and SAID:
Mr.. Chairman am here would have y Gu 10 The
statement Of anything which shall damage h Iesrest
namo OF Or. CarnOcBan, unless admitting VI '"0
proof. . AZ,
The CharmanI object to ruling s 10 a rGnd sg Of
Johnson ihls COMMUTE accent ali evidence Of direct
nature. matter whom lt may anvst 70 arr va at tho
greatest number OF facts. .-.,. a. 10
MIR. Johnson-ls Dr. Carnochans reputation 10 oe
Sbc C6airman-We are here Mr. johnson, any one
ST9 pf srcd t6st no GSibbing will stop this
inquiry. have no further answer to make TO you
Drs Carnochan and Rcide here entered and took seats
with their counsel.
Tho Chairman TO witnesS-Can You produce the con
tract which was made between your Company ana d.
Mr. Whtc-I have it in my office; the terms finally
acccded to were the same as offered originally by Dr
Carnochan but they were not acGGPSI e Health
Oficcr asked us what facilities would be, ana we
oTSSnized the Company; VIM. Murdoch was elected
President Richard C. Locke Secretary ana my sell lrea
that time man stepped ill., VINO claimed
u empowered to speak exclusively for Dr. CarnOchan
Martin Wiener of staten Island; this was IN APRIL after
conducted
oneOccason Imet Dr. CaTnOchau and the
next day MIR Wiener came me. and the contract
Was settled on the basis of $1,000 cash down and $3.50
per week during the quarantine months; we were I'M
Who agreed to put up the 10000 these Talmadge
Mills. Tiffany, and L. "a Tyler who win my seH con,
President. Clark W. Mills Treasurer and Dexter Inany
Secretary the day which this was arranged met
Mr. Wiener at the Com Exchange Bank, paid HIM tho
$4,000 and received the license from his hands as signed
with the business; Mr.. johnson, now present
drew up official bond; we, continued the
business during the Summer, but found that the income
would not warrant our paying s2o per %Gek; ~
eaton T S ON by Man wiener and our
refusal give almost wholly threw the business out
gross receipts; personally made arrangement r'M M
1o6in Of Tobins stores y rhieh ne cGS PAY 10 me hea
that Mr. Wiener had already made such an arrangement
talked in Wieners :" ein-mill" with Dr. Reide. DR..
Carnochans Deputy, and he told me that many OF the
merchants would prefer to go to To6ins stores and
desired that should go and sec Mr. Tobn, and pos
sble effect arrangements this did the same eyeLlng
The Vessels being sent 10 the warehouse dock instead
bcinS TgbteTed i'm Quarantine; we complained to DR..
Rade and Mr Wiener; Dr. Csfuochan Tor man in an
official position, not the easiest man to approach
Mr.. Albereer-I object, Mr. Johnson, to your inter
ference This IS matter OF Information to the Commit
Witness rcsuming-I am stating facts which I can in
every Instance subsantiae by other Witnesses this was
in MAY and before the establishment Of the rates for
stovedoring. gherinS &c the rates were made up by
Bell OF the Quarantine Board and to Dr. Carnochan; Dr.
Bell did not object TO them himself but said he feared
Commerce
the time these rates were submitted great Indignation
submitted by responsible parties Offering 60 do the
at less than twO-thiTs rates kHe0 Hat cy
ehGS and ;cork al ordinary rates tie meeting at which
the arrangement made took place al Dr. Carnocans
house by appointment, made by Dr. Davis the pLlc
pal parts the conversation between the Doctor ana
were not hgtermen, nor stevedores nor coOper5; we
expected 10 hire everything done and reap the rewards
wechsrtcrr every thing charged $50 fOr bringing up
ship: believe that The torg from Quarantine, cih ne
assistance Of ne Doctor. IS corh $4,000 per gear under
the Arrangement made with CarnOchan ana Wiener We
were 90 the exclusive control OF the towing; l
Ieye II 81 each but would have to see the books
to be made out OF thS ~ me summer OF 1870
passengcrs were brought up By the Quarantine boats
the TRIBUAE's EVIDENCE SWORN TO.
copy OF the contract was again asked for by Dr. Car
nochan's counsel and Mr. White being unable to pro-
duoe IT, reporter present handed him s,rapboOk con-
tanning copy Of the contract printed IN THE TRIBUNE
on August II, 1911
MI white-Mr. Chairman. will produce the contract
printed in THE TRIBUNE, which swear Is correct, word
FOR and that personally showed the same to Dr.
CarnOchan and. further, that 1t had his approval.
The Chairman then directed the official senOgrapher TO
take down the copy of the contract, Mr.. White
reading aloud:
The NswYok Hsor JigbDg and Seveiong Company hereby
80 pei week Of $1,000 per month for each month
t lie Quarlun shall be force and this Company shall have the
. .S Baggage E sS is%s SS'i e,
foil the present tern OF Dr CarnOcsn
provided Company shall perform the duties above
''''e' 70 ms - wS MrEDocx President
RICHARD B. LOCKE Secretary.
Wtncss-Regardng the stOrehOuse business, the ware
house able TO pay rs per cent TO the Health
womb moi otherwise get; much of the goods never
Inained in the warehouse more than one day; the scale
of towing printed In THE TRIBUNE VI Aug H. lol IS
DR. Reide-Can the witness any in which
vessels detained because they would not take the
Mr. W2ite-if the Committee will give me time shall
be able % give II cases; it was not unusual. $500 .
TO Br JOhnsOn-I have known permit to be withheld
because the would not tow with our boats; can
specify cases. give names, dates, and everything
have everything IN wrtlng al my ONCE ana Will nave
them here on Thursday
CARNOCHANs COMPLETELY.
My first conversation regarding quarantine affairs was
with Dr. CarnOchan at his house, and the terms of COM
pcnsation shown in writing to Dr. CarnOchan. The
terms were exactly the those printed in THE
TRIBUNE copy of the agreement. This Company
ganizod April G. 1870 I will produce the charter DR..
CsrnOchan read the agreement himself Dr. CarnOchan
replied that he would let us know in few days. The
conversation had been principally REGARDING the capa.
bies Of our Company this was the only Interview at
which dollars and cents were actually talked OF the
money paid at the Corn Exchange Bank to Martin
Wiener by myself The pdyngter Of he Corn EJch0nge
Bank counted he HOneyand pronounced correct Martin
Weher had repeatedly told me that he represented Dr
Whitehall ST. this was before the arrangement saw
Gtata tod