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that the gentleman did assume TO speak
by authority onthis floor, and.t0 repre-.
sent that this civil service reform move.
ment was thrust on an unwilling Presi.
don't, and that the men who defended Il
were the PreSidents enemies and not his
friends. / have recounted here the steps
bywhich this movement has reached its
present stage have so shown you that
Il began with the President, and that II
has been followed up by the Pre0ident,
but 10 make myself doubly secure, ]
called last evening with colleague on
the President himself and conversed with
him on this matter Of civil service reform,
and am at liberty to say (andl now say,
whether am at liberty orsnot) that the
utterGnces ol the President, except when
brought here in form by his message To
the House, are not 10 be stated to inhu.
ence the question Of legislation.
MIR. CoX-They do not influence US
very much. Laughter. s.zg55..y.
Mr.. BuTIER-The gentleman says he
called on the President, and that he was
at liberty to say
MIR. GARFIEID-The rules Of Widdlesex
bar do not apply here. This Is not
criminal court. Z Tf 3 EEsn-
Mr.. BuTLRR-No, sir because there IS
some decorumand propriety inthe criml.
nal courts. Laughter.
Mr.. GARFIRID-I was in hopes there
would be some here, but l sec there is
none. Laughter. l desire to say that !
have had no impression made on my mind
from any conversation with any man,
more strong, more clear than this, that
in all this matter ot civil service reform,
the President is not only sincere, but he
is in earnest. Every message that he has
sent US makes me more certain that that
Is so, and nothing have ever heard him
say detracts one whit from that convic.
tiOu. fN t..
Tho SPEAKER-The Chair regards II as
indecorous TO refer In any manner to
conversation with the President Of the
United States. Itis clearly against the rule
and against the Independence ofthe House.
Mr.. BUTLER TO Mr.. GARFIELD-Now
don't you wish this was q criminal court,
so as 10 avoid that Laughter.
Mr.. GARFIELD-I call the srEAKER's
attention to the fact that have only stated
my impression.
The SPEAKER-The wording Of 1t in
that way does not relieve It from objec-
tion or escape from the parliamentary
point. ..r
Mr.. GARFIELD-I have only 10 say that
Il anything have said trenches on the
line Of prOpriety and parliamentary de-
bate, II Is because an assumption was
made here IN II manner utterly unparal.
elled in the experience | have had here,
in the form OF an insinuatiOn that those
who defend civil service reform are an-
tagonistc Of the Executive.
Mr.. BUTLER-1 did not say that. said
that the enemies OF the President were
friends Of civil service reform. ] did not
say that oil friends Oi civil service reform
were enemies OF the President.
Mr.. PERRY-Did you not say yesterday
that those who supported this bill would
require certificates that they were not
going TO Cincinnati.
MIR. BuTLER-Ycs, AMI have been
trying 10 get such certificate from tho
gentleman from Ohio (GARFIEID) and he
will not give It, Laughter
Mr.. GARFIELD-The gentleman from
Massachusetts is not the keeper Of my po.
litical conscience
Mr.. BUTLRR-l never knew that you
had any. Renewed laughter.
Mr.. GARFGELD, cutting adrin from
this personal colloquy, addressed himself
to the subject before the House, and
argued that 1t was matter Of impera.
tive necessity that Congress should ab.
dicate Its uSurped and pretended right to
dictate appointments TO tho Executive.
Arguments in support Of the bill were
also made by Messrs, MCCORMTCK and
FINKELNBUR0.
MIR. SARoENT moved to lay tho bill on
the table.
At the suggestion Of several members,
Mr.. SARGENT Withdrew that motion, and
the House proceeded to vote on Mr..
BUTLER's motion TO reCommit the bill.
Mr.. HOLMAN desired to amend the mo.
tion by giving the Committee leave to re.
port at any time.
Mr.. BUTLER-Dy no means. object
The bill was recOmmlttGd-yeas, 90 !;
Maya, Gas follows:
EEAs-Messrs. Ames, Avcrill, Banks,
Barber, Beck, Blgley, Bingham, Bird,
Blair, Of Mo-, Barber, Braxton, Bright,
Buckly, Butler, of Mass, Butler, Of Tenn,
Clark, Of Texas, Clark, Of N. Y, Coburn,
Coghlan, Comingo, Conger, Critcher,
Crocker, Darrall, DeI4arge, DlCkey, Don
ner, Dox, Duell, Dunncll, Farweil, Col.
laday, Goodrich, IIarmer, Harper, Harris,
Of Miss, Harris, Of Va, IIavens, Hays. OF
Ala, Hazleton, Of Wis, HazillOn, of N.
j., Kendall, Kerr, King, Lanison, Lam.
part, Lansing, Maynard, McJunkiu, Nc.
Ree, Mercer, Moore, Morny, Morgan,
Myers, Niblack, Packer, Parker, Of Mo-,
Palmer, Peck, Pierce, Peters, Prindlc,
Rainey, Rusk, Sargent, SChofeld, Seeley,
Sessions, Shanks, Sheldon, Shoemaker,
Slater, Sloss, Of Mich, Snapp, Snyder,
Speer, Of Pa, Spccr, Of Ga, Sprague,
stoughton, sypher, Tale, Terry, Towns.
end, Of Pa, Turner, Twitchell, Tyner,
Van Trump, Wcddcll, Weldon, Of N. G.,
Wallace, Wheeler, Whitley, Wilson, Of
Ind, Wilson, Of Ohio,-0G'
NAYs-Messrs. ACker, Adams, Archer,
Arthur, Beatty, Blair, Of Mich, Brooks,
o. n. u, Burlington, BurchArd, Burdctt,
Cotton, Cox, Grassland, DuBoso, Duke,
EamCs, Eldridge, Ely, Farnswortt. Fink.
clnburg, Foster, Of Mich. Frye, Garfield,
Garrett, Getz. Griffith, llAldeman, Hale,
Llalscy, IIAmblcton, Hancock, landlcy,
Hanks, Hay, OF ILL.,, Hibbard, Hoar, Hol.
man, Kelley, Lowe, Lynch, Manson, Mar.
shall, McUlcIlAnd, Mccormick, McCrary,
Mcintyre, Merriam, Monroe, Morphis,
Orr, Packard, OF Ind., Parker. Of N. H.,
Perry, Of Ohio, Perry, Of N. Y, Poland,
Potter, Price, Road, Ritchic, Roberts, w.
Roberts, Rogers, Roosevelt, Sherwood,
StatkweAther, Stevens, Stevenson, Storm,
Strong, Sutherland, Swann, Upson, NoOr.
hres. WAkemNn, Waldron, OF Mich,
W0lls, Whitthorne, Willard, YounR-7O.