Nashville union and American. [volume] (Nashville, Tenn.) 1868-1875, 1872-05-02

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Resolved, That the deleOation from
S, Sew l ORR cast les entire vote for Horac
'--..sSrlry ror President, and until such tim,
as ten members of the delegation prefer I,
the Chairman request that the delegation
shall retire for consultation, after which
the vote shall be cast for Horace Greeley
under direction Of the delegation
a warm discussion ensued chiefly upon
the question whether this was TO bind the
delegation to east its entire vote all the
way through for Greeley. Some delegate:
denied the right of this assemblaea to Sc
bind the votes. Of delegates. Others urged
that this Sssemblage was q representative
OF the people of New York, and had some
power to bind the delegates. It should
choose as original primaries, or the caucns
would have TO instruct their chosen repre-
sentaiyes. ~ A4F
Ex-Judge Selden, of Rochester, present.
Cd strong argument against tying their
hands, but would submit to the order Of the
majority. lApplsuse.l ssFf eA g
Mr.. Brown, of the Rochester Democrat,
would strike out Of the second resolution
all after the words "retire for consultation, y
thus leaving the delegates free to follow in
diyldual preferences after ten shall have
united In call to retire. ,.e- s5,-.
Mr. Cochrane argued that the resolution
already meant that. =
A delegate asked: Then why not say so
In terms?
Dir. Brown Withdrew bis amendment.
Lloyd, while expressing kind feelings to-
ward Greeley, and Willingness to yield TO
the majority so far as one or two compIi-
mentary votes for him, was not In favor Of
him for the Presidential nomination, be-
cause, If elected, he would ably advocate
and support policy which the speaker
unalterably opposed as unwise for the
country. He was of course understood to
refer to the policy of protection. For this
reason the speaker was opposed to the
adoption Of the pending resolution, and
also because its effect was to assert what
was not true, to-wit: that the delegates
here are unanimous on this question. he
Raised a storm
of dissent by claiming that they had aban-
doned the regular Republican organization,
because the msjority in it had Overridden.
the minority. BE renewed the proposition
in still stronger terms, saying: This is a
rebellion instituted because those who con-
troll the regular Republican organization
have used its machinery to force upon US
their policy, regardless Of the views or the
minority" [Cries of "No, never" and
Li,ses.1
Mr.. Lloyd continued reading from the
Missouri call, and charging that in forcing
the pending resolution the meeting was do
ing Just what that platform denounced in
the old organization as its demand for the
surrender Of political freedom, in order that
the pleasure, practice and creed Of some
shall be made that of all. (Applause from
one side Of the room.) He had been urged
by one whose fame was continental, TO re-
sist this as he would any other form Of ty-
ranny, and stated that in the Ohio delega-
tiOn the single vote. found there for Greeley
was to be respected, and the chairman
would cast it as long as the delegate so de-
sired. He had felt it a duty thus far to
protest against what lie saw was the deter
of the majority here, though
necessarily it would result in defeating the
formally expressed wish of his Congression-
al district, that he should represent them in
the delegate convention.
Mr.. Jones of Binghamton, wanted Mr.
Greeley nominated because hs believed his
Is the strongest name TO present to the
country. When in convention, We see we
can not nominate him, the majority will be
ready to go for TIE next best man.
Mr.. Sinclair Tousey moved, but suhse-
quenlly withdrew an amendment providing
that only after three formal ballots are had
the delegation would retire for consultation.
Mr.. Flower, 10 clear all ambiguity moved
the following substitute for the secoRt re-
"Resolved, That the delegation fn0m
New York cast its vote in the convention
as a unit for Horace Greely, until such time
as 20 delegates shall make request to the
Chairman to withdraw, IN which event the
vote shall be cast as majority Of the dele
cation shall direct, provided the convention
shall not direct different method of pro-
This proviso was added at the suggestion
Of Judge Selden. The Chair put the ques-
tiOD to a vote and said it seemed carried.
division was called. 4 decided majority
ranging themselves in the affirmative, the
Chair announced the resolution adopted,
amid cries Of "Count! Count !" which was
lnHeeded.
A Scene OF Confusion
snsued. Finally, on appeal from the decis-
ion of the Chair, a count was had, and
showed 80 in favor Of the reso ution to
p against. The first resolution was then
adopted and q recess taken until s o'clock
tonight.
Another SquAbbIe,
The NV York Delegation resumed its
session at s O'Clock tonight. Mr. Coch
rane reported the list of delegates selected
10 represent that S ate in the Delegate Con-
yention, among them Henry r. SeldenJnO.
COchrane, VIM. Dorsheimer, Archibald 81.
Bliss, Waldo Hutchins, Theodore TiltOp,
FraLk Leslie, Geo. Wilkes, Sinclair TOusey,
and Lloyd.
In response TO question Mr.. Cochrane
said that for several districts not present here
delegates had been selected from gentlemen
present from their neighborhOod as near as
possible.
Tousey said before the question was ia
ken on adopting the report he had an in
quiry to make Of Lloyd, who had to-day de-
clared he would not vote for Greeley. On
the response would depend his rousey'sl
action in regaid to the report. he asked
LLOYD through the Chair whether he would
obey the instructions adopted to-day by an
overwhelming vote that the New York
vote should b, unit for II. Greeley.
Lloyd was silent.
Several gentlemen interposed to object to
the catechism.
Tousey called to order, claiming the floor
until his question was answered.
Theodore Tilton-Mr. President: Ifany
gentleman weEc to rise and question ne,
either directly or through the chair, as to
how l would vote as a delegate, would re-
main quiet until the day Of doom. Zap
plause.
A delegate inquired If Tousey had right
10 hold the floor 10 that very indefinite time
when Lloyd should answer his question.
Mr.. Tousey said as the gentleman failed
70 answer he now moved to substitute the
name Of Jos. Fl. Toole for that of Lloyd in
order that New York's entire Is votes
night be cast for Or, eley.
Ethan Allen regretted the motion because
t assumes that Lloyd wOnld disregard dis
lonOrabiy the solemn obligation imposed
y the Instructions voted to-day, for as q
Gentleman, il be accepted the appointment
IS delegate in the presence and full knOwl- |
dge OF those instructions, he was bound by |
very principle Of honor 10 obey them.
Mr.. Cochrane opposed the motion, and |
Urged that if Lloyd 80 desired, be could not /
asst q vote against the instructions, and if /
10 did it would not be received, but if the |
provided for should happen to |
rise releasing the delegation from The Ubli- |
alton TO vote as q unit of colrse IaOyd /