The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-02-14
The Question in the House of
Lords.
Are The Americans, North and South,
Partners for the Profits {?
Cause of Charles Francis Adams
Return.
What the Arbitrators Know
About English.
1ELtCRAKS 10 THE NEW YORK HERALD.

1fLEGRAkS 10 THE NEW YORK HERALD.
The following special despatch to the
HERALD has been received from our corre-
spondent in the capital of Great Britain -
LONDON, Feb. Is, 1872.
With reference to the Alabama claims ques-
ton and the Treaty of Washington, no English
government continuing negotiations with the
United States on the treaty as the case now
stands could hold office twenty-four hours.
This fact is absolutely certain and cannot be
stated too emphatically to the American
people.
PARTY CHANGE WILL NOT RENDER THE PHASE
MORE PLEASING.
Should Gladstones Cabinet 60 out of Office
on this international issue their successors in
the Ministry will, from the very nature Of the
case, be equally prevented from pursuing
similar line of policy.
\ CRITICAL MOMENT IN THE INTERNATIONAL
NEGOTIATIONS.
Therefore, the joint elaboration for arbitra-
ton being ended, the opportunity for settle
iment accommodation between the peoples of
England and America will be lost, unless
some mutual understanding, modifying the
American point of claim for indirect losses,
can be arrived at.
s:JoHN BULLS" DIFFICULTY FROM sRED TAPE.
The English government, having positively
refused to entertain a proposition for the pay
ment of certain sum in gross for all damages,
cannot now turn round and advance of its own
volition proposition of that nature, or iden-
teal
now THE PRESIDENT MAY AFFORD BRITAIN A
CHANCE FOR PAYMENT.
But should the American government renew
its own proposition on the subject, as made
and set forth in the treaty protocol, March 8,
1870, 1t could be arranged on the basis that
England will pay the highest sum named by
the United States-thirty millions of dollars
in gold,
GRANTS REPLY TO GRANVILLE.
1t is reported generally in the city that the
reply of the United States government to Earl
Granville's note in reference to the American
claim for indirect damages in the Alabama
case reached United States Minister Schenck
from Washington to-day.
CITIZEN EFFORT FOR POPULAR MEDIATION
The members Of the Ango-A American Asso-
citation held meeting in London last evening
for the purpose of canvassing the questions
arising from the claim of the United States
before the Geneva Board of Arbitration for
compensation for indirect damages arising
from the operations of the Alabama and other
English privateers during the civil war in
America.
After an interchange of personal opinions
and views and an informal consideration of
the entire subject, the Association adopted
resolution declaring that the body ''would not
publicly discuss the Alabama difficulty while
there was hope of its being settled in q
friendly spirit" by the Cabinets.
The Question Debated In the House Of Lords
Are tho North and South Partners In the
Demand for Observation-Disclosures Reticence
In the Absence OF a Formal Motion.
LONDON, Feb. 10, 1872.
An attempt was made to bring the subject
of the Alabama claims before the House of
Lords to-day for debate.
Lord RedesdaIo proposed to the government
the following question :-"If A and 3, part
ners, sue for fraud, and the defendant
proves that B, one of the plaintiffs, acted with
MIN In committing the fraud, whether such
PROOF would not be complete answer and
deoar all damages? ?" Applying this to the
questions at issue with the United States he
argued that the North and South were now