New-York tribune., 1872-03-12
XLIID CONGRESS-IID SEssIo
SENATE. WASHINGTON. March II. 1872.

moved that Il he referred back to the Committee to give
them opportunity to be heard hnt aitsrn @ & g'" anu
Trumbul being absent. he did not press me nlooi ,
Mr. COLE dep.. CALI introduced pii, 70 PA ,h MAJ
mail service between san Francisco 1ai'' anu 'uo '
1t the expiration of the morning hour when the Leg
isative Appropriation bill came up as Tue ""'i''"
Mr. SHERMAN Gep Ohic) reminded the Senate that nit
the Tari bill had been set down Tor tod'y' h' ', H.
that be would insist going on win IL rs SOON IL 'No
pending bin should be disposed Of , IAN ..
on the amendment appropraing $4,000 to he expended
by the President for the promotion Of Cvn Service
Mr. TETMnH ON GyL CIV s5nvc6 TEroGn , 5sno,c on
Ciy! service Teiorm In reply TO remark made by Mr.
Howe. Friday. lie denied that De had ever IoGed
States or spoken dIsrespectfuIly Of him. lie had neither
abused the President nor fawned upon him He tIen
cy service and argued that the bill introduced by him
| last year. prohibiting recommendations TO once ny
Dir. cARPENTER Rep, wisJ asked him to leave
gloomy gcn'raliiics and come down to details.
Dir. TBUMBULL replied that there was no lacx Oh
competent Witnesses % the subject lie cited Geo Wm
Cs as an Influential friend of the Administration. and
read at length from the testimony OF exSecreary cox as
Inc appointment OF inconpctent and immoral persons
through the Influence of members OF congress, the u,
eF OF S sens or gJ fipT SuTpos gSc anu '
SIR. TkuMBULb ihen replied to Dir. Mort2n's s,ate
rad recommended 1903 persons for appointment to office
the advent Of the present Administration Having
often been complained o by Ills constituents Tor refusing
knowing that ence The first year of Mr. LIncon's Ad
minis;ration lie had very seldom intericred In
Surprised sur and somewhat indignant q hear
vas chic among those who lad been hanging around
tie Departments seeking appointments Even II the
| ttntemrut 10 would be argument
against Civil Service Reform. Bat cas not true. After
OF the Departments. asking copies OF all TIC reconmen
| dations made by him, aud the replies showed
h%, ms name da not "ppSr p%aipber a. ld5
lis name appeared The PostOnce Department
ce although there were about 1000 Postmaslers in his
STATE ard in most OF these he had not recon
! applications, "Rcspectfuy referred to the Postmaster
General" or respectfully referred for favorable CON
In reference to appointments. Mr.. CARPENTER said
that Mr. Trumbu's conduct seemed to have been jnst
Hike his own, and asked whether lie (IrlmDu thOught
| tlere vas anyi ihi4g wrong or corrupt IN IT, .,,.,.
| 1Ir. TEUMBULL-I do not think there Is anything
wrong what did in reference 10 those papers. But
that is not hat referred to- referred 10 members OF
Congress going to the Depart ncnS and Dy importantly
! getting p6rsaIIs appointed TO Office.
| Mr. CARFEN1Il-Did the senator himself ever do
ary5hF4TFG H. FTGNETLfnHo. ct I9fi Iln%, Sir.
Nj. .CAEPENTER-Nor /; nor do believe any Senator
| Mr. TRUNBULL said that there was not clerk ap
pointed at lis request IN the Treasury department the
partment the Department Of Justice, and only one III
the Interior department, aud OF those ia the depart
| ncnts with whom his connected in any way
there blood relation of his though he bad many
Agent, Who was u brother of his deceased wife, and
cousin OF hers IN the Agricultural Department so far
from wcarying the departments with applications for
arpOin he had written letter more than year
and half ago in which he lad given express, notice
Mr. TKUMBULL then discussed the question, How
the Civil Service be refOrmedi and advocated the
election OF posmasters by the people the prohibition OF
interference with appointments by members oi Con
Crcs aad The prohibition of interference In politics by
Government officers and employees The President had
TO htodSc any ny y TSo m @ Sv ABOVE psrT Ho
and purity @Poye & pIunder oi 10 o,,, ,,oto %, ,ro
pending Appropriation because the President asked for
IT, and because 1t was proHet hat the scheme adopted
| the scheme. and criticised 1t in many respects.
Mr. SCOTT Rep., PENN read from tho Constitution
power TO prescribe the method OF appointing all officers
d go GSnsT Ser ,rsG ana m the , Of
that there Were about 5000 officers appointed with Tic
consent Of the, Senate, and 5000 GppoInted abb
II woud have In thc power Congress to prescribe
GERS and Judges Of the Supreme Court the appointment
all these 10000 officers should be dependent upon tho
OF the Senate and House OF Representatives II
they wished control these appointments they could do
better through their Senators than through the Excc
this had not been done, and in view OF the lin
itod number whose election Congress had
assumed exercise power ii would appear that the
argued against the idea that who take part in poll
necessarily Of bad character unfit to the
facy, and the people must be educated 20 the very
opposite idea nnmey, that is only the right, but
the duty of good citizens to take part in politics, and
that good mans character ought To he so good that he
Tie evils resulting from the neglect or refusal OF good
citizens 10 take part in politics had recently been
communities, the Southern states and the City of New
York. when the people shall have learned that they
oiiG then civil reform would be in great part accom-
Mr. MORTON G2cp, Ind) replied to Mr. Trumbu Tie
said that in mentioning Mr prumbul's recommends
tons office he had not said or implied that there was
| making recommendations, but In first making
them and then den3nncing Others Tor doing
| BUN had impcachcd the acts and motives Of
his Fellow Senators in relation TO appointments there
fore il was proper his record shoud be referred
TO- lie (hr Morton) had also heard that Dir Irumbuil
had personally urged upon tho President the appoint
In illinois. although IL could only be made by removing
Gen. Bloomfield a Unionssodier
! MI. TRUMBULL-I would Like to know the Senator's
Mr MORTON N-Does the senator deny IT.
! MI TRt MBULL--If the senator makes the statement
on his own authority will answer very promptly.
| iir MOTION was not there and did not hear the
authority that believed was 10 he implicitly relied
upon and now II IL Is not true the Senator can deny H.
| Mr TRUMBULir-Does the Senator suppose ho can
come into this body retailing what has been told him by
irresponsible persons, and that am TO be put IN posi-
tinn 10 dcnyi II he makes statement upon hi5 own
responsibility that demands an answer from me, he Will
get it very promptly. =, a., -, ,o,,... A.. ,r.....
not mpute any to him for making the recon-
mendaiion. lie had as much right 10 recommend his
own brotherin-aw as anybody else II he were compo-
tent t the Office. The wrong In casting imputa
! tious upon others for doing the same thing.
! MIR. TRUMBULL denied that it would be inconsistent
for him Ia advocate reform and yet conform to the
prevailing practice while 10 existed; but he denied also
that he had coniorned to that practice 10 any cosdera
bic extent AS To Mr. Morton's account OF converse.
ton between him (Mr TTmbulD and the President, II
that senator would make the statement on his
sponsbity II he preferred on the authority or inc
President would be promptly answered; nut ne Mr
TrumbuD could not cOndescend to answer a statement
for which who made IL would neither Voucb himself
| nor give his authority.
| MI MORTON, In reply 10 remark implying that he
controlled great deal of patronage said that In pro
portion to the population, there were one-half more
people appointed to Federal Offices from Illinois than
| from Indiana