New-York tribune., 1872-03-21
Oficerf A. Th0se mat

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OF any portion OF such division 10 bim directly
O. Yes, Sir but understand me- wish 20 find out ths
settlement and compromise OF claim for alleged frand
upon the revenue Suppose fund Of $4,000 paid
money IL usually sent by the Collector 20 tho Depart
at Washington, and there the proportion that be-
longs TO the officers Ia renited back again ~ the Col
q Tell me in what proportions the officer. are paidi
Surveyor ia think the strct-Attorney deducs two
per cent the amount that Is my impression
q. What IS the first deduction from the luDdI A. I
presume 1t IS the DistrictAttorney.
Ths co9rt eosts-noSw, aider me court c9s; are
A. IL Is al remitted to the Treasury Department. IL
q. II does not make any difference when II Is made;
am not asking that. am asking where u s made After
he Of tne conrt costs ls tne uhd dylso ~ Yea no
lecOrs Office think is the amount that Is due the Nayh
oeer the Surveyor tue Collector and probably the IL
q after the court costs taken ont is the balance
divided into halyesi A. As the Collector don't mako
the division answer you according 10 the knowledge
have; the moneys that come - the Customhouse are
RENTED back again to the Auditor, who sends me a
check, the surveyor check, and the Naval Officer
check, and presume, sends the informer bis portion
OF 1t.
@ ask you II fund cf $1,000 for instance, is paid
''" Co3! !. not the nrs deduction from that iund te
Court oen'e' a tgr,esSg@e 49, though
would not say OF my own KnC~'e9g1,,
% NOW Is the balance after that, me remainder.
dfden INTO Two equal parts OF which the Government
GnS %%a tie G t@aS nSn tSss%y Naya Officer and
Surveyor get the other A. That i my theory Of It,
eminent included IN the hall assigned the Government
A. II depends altogether on the character of the seizure
whether they were snuggled goods, whether they
were goods that-where 1t was forfeiture Tor under
value
O. Why, what difference would It make. II the dutic.
were due TO me G0Vernmtn nt, what was the form oi
fraudi A la one case the larger portion OF the duty
the goods had already been paid the other case,
none would have been paid.
q suppose large portion had been paid, and por.
ton still remained due, j. not the Government entitled
to thati A viii not answer that question; it legal
should have TO 90 back and exmAe that question
@ You cannot answer that question: a. Not JUS.
nearly two years cannot tell mo whether the duties
the Government to be included in It's half OF the
amount paid INTO court under settlemcntG A. IL you
viii separate your question: senator ana ask me about
the goods.
q. You remember the occasion in regard TO which you
have testified o the removal of DeCainp and Others do
you not! \. remember named ID camp remein-
Der testified 10 that man.
O. DO you not remember the Of several persons
whom you removed who removed about
the time on account Of controversy IN the General
Committee IN which they voted contrary toyour wishesi
O. DO understand you 10 Justify those removals mon
the ground that these men were acting IN the interest of
Tweed and has associates in the Tlmmany Ring IN tho
Cty Of New lork A. Yes, Sir that Is the reason they
O. There was no other reason! A. There may have
been, bnt that sufficient.
q II there may have been, why can you not tate Nv
O. why do you say there may be another reasoni A.
think it is very probable there was.
A. NV theory is that men that would act they did
mon that OCCASION were capable OF most anything.
RV INF 6ayard-What was that A. Ny theory is
that men that would do they did on that occasion
would be capable OF mostly anything except murder OF
By Ar. Casscrly-Is not that the same thing YOU
.heir artn in the interest Of Tweed 4. r. there was
10 other reason, sir would have removed them IoF
O. Vel please TO state explicitly now whether ySu
r .rfT 70 say that there any other reason IOf e
removal Of those ri.n szt t4 VIII Say set
IA. t1F vuf I.,t- .,
O. Can you state any other nowi A. cannot Sir,
O. Was not the question involved in that controversy,
whether the Republicans should run straight inulcp.
ticket OF their own Or not ~ The question n'o'edlh
Q. was it or not, Mr. Marphy, a. That was not en-
tirey the question: Sr that Vas partly the question III
Q. Well. 60 on aud add anything else You wish A. The
question involved was whether the Republican party
should run themselves whether Tweed should run
them; that was the principal question involved. ~,
Q. Ii question, tlen of hlchy 70 tue Eepu'-
ican parry a. fes, Sir, on oar SIDE IL vas. .,,,
And you CONSIDERED e ht e dcIac I n no nr WAS mo-,
fit to stay in office and could not be regarded as iAthi
to q h Is RfRG4@ a ~ theory % s
crat, that man, has right 10 DC DeboSIaS IL ~ y
ing TO he a Republican. then doing Democratic work
BY Mr.. Bayard-Then what A. Then dong work
in ouspoken aud honorable foe, can respect bats
sneak or a traitor, idesplse
BY Mr.. CasSerly-I repeat thc question and ask 10,
the answer OF the witness A. Any man who professed
to be "A Republican ana OOeyed INeta's orders pOnu-
caly. 40 think ought 10 be IN Office.
q Will you slge me an answer 10 my question! lQaos
tGH On real M A. I9e 3gsso9 ~ " yH S ,pswcr
answer that question direct; Yes Or No. don't think
would come III proper answer.
o UepeatedJ. And you considered that any man who
had relations with Tweed. or any others OF tho Tlmmay
Ring, was not It TO stay y Office ana coad 10, re re-
garded as faithful TO tHe republican party ~ say
YES; if he Republican he was mol H. .
Twged or Mr. swesny or Mr.. Connolly \. have known
them quite number OF years
o. Sate the number As nearly - you cam n nave
lnwn Tweed and Connolly probably for Is years; wish
to be understood my answer II man was Democrat
he had night to be W',n q, ~ I%esG g m a ho was 10
@ Which OF those three men have you known longest
Tweed. Sweeny. Connolly 4. NV impression Is
have known Tweed the Ongest ABOUT the same Time
they lived in the wlrd did think along in 1857
o We're you ever in the Legislature at the same time
with Tweed A. No, sir, with neither ot thsn,
o. Was the transaction in real estate OF which YOU
spke Yesterday the only real estate transaction you
ever had with Tweed S~eeny, and Connolly, or any OF
'US YoastiieG, H. Il remember Rightly that the date Of
il Was three years Sn this june 4 Would DO. say
June 1t may naNo been Ji!' or August Vi 9epeH"oi'
that year
O Wore Won holding tho., two positions, as Commits
sinner Of the " ii, ns Of Broadwiy and member OF ths
school Board, when you were appointed Collector
o. How long after your appointment before you re re,
ceIyed themf \. But short time; c'hho' ""
Wbo wSs the counsel OF the Tax Commissioners
when you were appointed Collector a. Gen. A'''''
O. The present Collector! \. Yes sf ,vovhx
O. Was tho Tax Commission distributed IN any wa! W
the Taminany Ring when they nad appeared al '"'
Legislature A. Yes, Sir
q. Was IL repealed A. No, sir ,.t,,o,.
q OR modified A. Inere two COMMISSIONER
originally they added nth. -, .d,,da
q There were four, YOU mean, when they auAcu"
fifth A. Yes. sir. that /, u. ,, , Va.
q Did that give them control oi 'ne oo'''' M
Sir - . o,, last
q When was that 4. That was year ago iN'
Winter II NAV have been the year before that ,.,s
o. It was in 20 or It'd lt must have beehf A. 'H"
~ w." INV the new Board that Gen. Arthur was ap
potntedi A. No. sir; DO not knO" t1It Inc 'oin"'
sioners er were appointed ., ro,.,,