The sun., 1872-04-30
uAoGIyg THE SBRATB.
r,corciny the DEGREES Of a Grant senatorial
aucus-Importaui Business 20 be Rushed
Tiroueh Witbout Dcbate-senator Trum-
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hull Protest.
N,suNuToN, April ON the Senate To-
day Mr.. SCOTT uicp. Pa) moved to take up his
resolution 20 limit debate ON tho appropriation
bills 20 FIVE minutes for each Senator on eoch
amendment.
Mr.. CAssgRLY Dem, Cal) opposed the resoiu-
tIon as unnecessary and likely to do injustice.
Mr.. TnunputL 0cp., ILL., also opposed the
resolution. Some OF the most important laws,
he said were enacted as amendments TO appro-
priation bills. and the adoption OF this rule
would enable the majority to carry any measure
they chose after 1--WE minutes debate by each
senator opposed to II. The settled rule ana
practice NJ the senate as to debate was designed
ior the protection ~ the rights of the mlnuFlyi
and th6qe who were row in the majority ana
| urving this resolution should rmeinnvT tiat Wy
| time would come when they wouiu oo III '"o
Wr NSinoNy Hcp. r. I advocated The reso,,
| In ION ~ Il meals ui impru' tn2 the chhac'ci Vi
| the debates and expcdiung business -,
Mr. WORMS Dem; Md offered an amend. 1aea5.
| iorrt, restricting the hNe-ininute ruIe, 70 9eo"'o
! pn amendments ccrmane 20 the VII. hos'
ruE RrAL DESIGN oF rnE MAJORITY.
| Mr. TprMprIt. said that the vote on thIs
| n-l.nduet.t showed the real design al the ma
! jurtv ln Offering the pending resolution namely
| I, get a gac law by which thcX tould I"rCe ap
| measure, however Important Through the sen
| aic as an amendment to an appropriation Will
"a At tie tie cxiiratlon Of the morning, hour on
motion " SfoId nd be the sennie then resuined
| ths discussion OF the resolution, -. ,,.,
Mr.. CASERLY-l agree win Inc SenatIIn ,Int ir bns
| just been taken reveals the design oI ne INA ma
jory in 9gcrng his resoiuton ,,,ors af ouo ~
| those dark assemblies unknown 70 the IA" anu
I e. She Constitution. -,
| Mr.. CpNkiINd tRepn y, Yin Nold''oh oi
both, suppose.
ENAcTISG A GAG LAW.
| Mr.. CNssURLY-I did not say that sir but
do say that they are standing menace 70 tne
| -. .,tf I'D ha
thereof; they are standing menace against az
freedom of opinion and stion on the Iart ,. on
m0rning that the ma ajority had held n caucus,
aud the vote that has just boen ttken conhrnis
nst fnSre ruor bs rae mSon 2S bit My they have
had no prov ocatlon to do so, because nobody viii
ro.ed dor or dclayed d any Of the brsiness before the
Senate. THIS resolution Is unjust to us " Is rn-
just to yourselves gentlemen u y unjust 70 rn ,Ie
There are Senators listening to me, and who
, favor this resolution, who ronember the tlm,
| when they were In the minority IN the senate
and AK them II any such gag as this WAS evel
: put into their mouths. II were member o.
o.ition like this and no cause Of my party coul'
bring me TO support what regard & as
| II moi I'm letter. IL YOU can limit debate on THU
class OF bills you can limit IL on az piiis on o.
| can establish general gag which VIII XIII states
p | mnn-hip aud reduce this body to mere congre
q | CATION Uf voters.
TnE uoMfS UERING MAJORITY.
Mr. TRUMUuLL said that the manner In which
| IL was sought TO pass this resolution was in mar
| uiony with the resolution itself. II was ht tha
| a rule calculated to change the settled practice
. | OF the senate should be forced through withou
I ! debate. lie had served in the minority IN th'
| | Senate when the dOnineering majority ol Una
4 | dav nttempted to force the minority To- vote ol
i | tho IccomptOn Till without discussion, unles
I | they would discuss II at unseason9ble ho,uss
But even that majority, In the height on thi US
y | power, never thought Of adopting gag rule liA
y Mr. CoGr REP, CALI said this rule must b
i there would be no possibility of doing any bus
q ness, as every opportunity would be taken aite
that TO indulge In political debate.
CANDIDATE ron vICE-PREsIpENr.
/, Mr. WILSON Rep. Massl was unable to &C
Vi any danger in the proposed rule, and he though
It 1t idle to lay that II would prevent lcgtlniait
= | debate, because every Senator would ie ~ ~
y erty To discus o, fully AS he pleased all bls
|io the question II their hnal pa,,We ,..
Z, Mr.. TRUMBvIi. asked Mr.. wilson whether Z
'@ | lad MOI within two years offered hili rcmodc
ing The army = an amendment to an appropn'
n tion bill. aud whether It had not been passed:
~ MIR. WiISoS replied In the Affirmative b'
a4din denied that there was anything ~ the pr
's biscHs bisvr i"W ' Of 1 bill or its provisions when
"a should be placed on its passage.
X DEATH TO IHE MiNORITT.
i Mr. MciroS Rep. Indl had no fear that th
r Nir C,sstuIY said that Mr.. Morton. being
ot mrrnhrr ~ ~ two-thirds majority, had no reas'
rr 10 fear this other rule, because II $40,
p. i'm his way he could have II suspended, but
N, | seemed 10 forget that what was sport Tor NJ
| | might be death to the minority.
se Mr. StGIT said Mr. CassCrlN had asked WI
p | this resolution meant, and he would reply III
2 | IL meant business.
~ Mr. CAs,ERI.Y said lac had no doubt Of th'
h. | but the question was what Kind ui business,
IN. Mr. CASsEHIY offered a substitute proNiGt
cd | that no amendment To an appropriation b
Nv shall he In order unless II IL germane to the hl
rk | and provides for AN appropriation OF publ
Va | money IN pursuance Of existing law. RcJecte
| II 10 -.
Mr. TRraBUIL offered an amendment provi
ing that no amendment proposing gene al leg
hc lstion not gCrmauc to the bill shall be olertd
.er | az appropriation bill. Lost, ii to -.
AL TIE GAO LAW MODIFIED AND ADOPTED.
~ Mr. EpNUSps NRep., VIZ moved 10 add To- I
,rr | original resolution the following Anu
1g | amendment 20 any such bill making leglslatl
.cd | provisions other than such a. shall directly
I'd | late to the appropriations contained In the l
shall be received" Agreed to, 25 to ls
w | The resolution IA amended was then adopt
"" | by a vote cf - yeas To l3 nays-Messrs. Alco
~, | foreman, Sumner, and IruInhul voting IN
~ | negative,
'td 1he resolution rs passed provides that DUR
the present session IL shall be In order at any W
10 move a TeCe, >, and pendinP an appropratl
bill to move to cOnAne debate on Hmendmel
W. thereto to nNe minutes by any senator on
pending motion, and such motion shall be
tho cidcd without debate, and NO amendment
ist any such bill malin: legis latNe provisions ot
ar | Than such as directly relate 20 the appropl
,c,n | tons IN the bill shall be received.
saW | The Senate then adjourned.