The New York herald., 1872-10-04
Another Side Of the Story and What
Farrell Says About It.
Is DR.. Echeverria Guilty Of Conspiracy His
Course Critically Reviewed-What He Did
to Save Himself-A Surgeons Opinion
Of Corden's Death-Brutal CRU
city to a Dying Man.

octinB WdIucH, SuOWeu proper courtesy 10 tne re-
porter and passed him into the prison. Farrell's
cell Is on the second tier. 1t Is No. 81, and is d.
recty In front of that OF Edward s. Stokes. This
gentleman kept his cell studiously closed rs long
rs there were any visitors in the prison. Farrell
came to the grating soon as the HERALD
reporter stated that his mission was to
interview him. The reporter passed HIM
In copy OF the HERALD containing the
letter OF DR.. Echeveriia. Farrell read 1t at
tentively, smiling at times as he came to certain
portions which apparently seemed to him droll.
lie read It with q quick cye and evidently under
stood it at the first glance. Farrell is an inteli-
| gent man, and would possess handsome face but
for the protruberance above his left eye. He was
dressed in simply shirt and pair OF pan falcons,
| but In spite OF such a state OF deSld5ile did
not appear to possess the same rough exterior
which characterized the majority OF the men
around him.
"What do You think OF that document Farrella"
asked the HERALD reporter.
81 think" replied the prisoner 'that 1t is
! CAREFULLY woRDED DOCUMENT,
but gives the skle OF the question which Doctor
Echeverria would naturally wish the public to be-
| lievcn
| us 1t a true statement of faetsS''
"l am not prepared to deny that" said Farrell,
for 1t states things In such that one can
hardly deny anything in it. l think, however, it is
liable to give false impression. You see the let
ter hardly mentions me, but confines itself mainly
to discussion OF the unatc C0rden's disease, en-
deavOrng to prove that bringing him to the inquest
did not accelerate his death. Now, have very
little to do with the Corden part Of the matter"
"Corden, however," suggested the HERALD mas,
was in your ward, was he not 2''
"Oh, yes" answered the prisoner.
"What was your experience Of him ~
"Corden was man." said Farrell, 'who was
simply insane on one point. lie believed that he
was always being attacked by a crowd Of people.
lie thought he had always to fight five hundred
people. lie used constantly to pull open his shirt
and say, "Don't you the marks Of these hesh
darts,n at the same time pointing to his breast.
Then he would sometimes make assaults upon other
patients in the ward. remember once he threw q
chamber at man named Jimmy Devne, patient
and
CUT OPEN HIS ARM
from the front Of the elbow almost to the shoulder
The wound bled profusely, and 1t required surgical
aid to stop the bleeding. Sometimes Corden in his
assaults upon other patients In the ward would get
the worst OF 1t.
"Was he sufficiently injured" asked the HERALD
man, Ito account for the marks which lie showed
upon his person 2"
"Why, yes," said Farrell "He used sometimes
to get pretty bad licking before we could prevent
1t. This was his mania you seen tE@d hH
REPoRTER-Did his mania continue as strong up
to the time Of your trouble
FARRELL-Well perhaps not as strong as 1t was
at first; but still it was pretty strong. few days
before left the asylum he was still talking about
those hellish darts.
REroRTER-Do you think, then, he was sane
when he was dlschargedf
FARRELL-I do not think. he was. I considered
hi 70 Iarf
act pretty sensibly put never altogether like a
sane man.
REPoRTER-Dd he testify like sane man9
FARRELL-He testified ut the inquest as II he
knew what he was saying pretty much. but with
total ignorance OF facts which had happened. He
evidently had
NO RECOLLECTION OF THINGS
which had happened when he was In the asylum.
| REPORTER-Do you think he was in fit condition
TO testify when he was brought to the inquests
FARRELL-Al know is-and the reporters who
were there Will bear me ont In it-that he looked
as II lie were dying He was threatened that un-
less he were willing to remain In the asylum until
the day Of the inquest he would be put in prison.
This threat, to a man who was suffering as he was
e mns 70 Ken into the es cy
Hospital in dying condition to testify. Dr. Eche-
verria says that he Is not responsible for what
put him II ere eseeu 70 " % weak
state Of mind this being dragged to and fro was
told, and not as he. thought: II had been
allowed to o. say @ s,o few words n,S,. could ~ have
\" te al nc ms ne s.
/ but some OF the things he said were 80 funny that
! l couldn't help laughing. Anybody in the asylum
A oNE-SIDED AFFAIR.
! Those who did not agree with what Dr. Echeverria
! chose to advance were discharged.
| REPoRrER-You mean Wall and McLaughlan2
| FARRELL-Ycs. These men knew what they were
| war 10 very
taken into account and when they got back to the
asylum they were discharged because they did not
testify as they were wanted to. Yet these men
told the truth from beginning to end.
REpoRrER-How do you account for the dscrep-
ria as to calling them up one by one, and Ornell
saying you were the man who beat him
sick Dr. STOOD al the head Of Inc bea
ana we three keepers-myself, Wall and Mcl.augh-
lan-sood some feet away. DR.. Echeverria pulled
me forward and said, SIS this the man, Ornell ~
without any other question. Ornell said, s'Yes,
that's the man." and then closed his eyes. Wall
and Mclaughlin were not brought forward at all,
as they testified on the inquest. DR.. Echeverria
then drew paper from his pocket and read 1t to
US and asked ae gs & r 70 sign our % names
that each one In his turn was brought before Ornel
and the question asked. II Dr.. Echeverrla says he
read this to us
he PERJUREs HIMSELF.
What he read had an entirely different construc-
we signed our names to IT. You don't suppose l
would have signed ny name am o. & paper iRmPacatng
me III q murder let tIHs ls Wnat LIT. ECneNerTla
tries to make the public believe.
REPoRTER-Did anything further occur thenS
FARRELL-Yes. When Echeverrla left the room
| said to Ornell, GLOW could you say that beat
you ~ and he answered, "Ddn't you beat me one
night down In Fourth street and jump on me 2"
This shows how much idea he had OF what he was
saying.
REPoRTER-you deny, then, altogether that you
were guilty OF any cruelty to the patients
FARRELL-0f course do. | never laid my hand
on one Of them in anger. And yet they often gave
us pr0vOcati0n. But
Tur ur-, us or Tuv ayrt.u wrvr co orprcr
that we were forbidden ever TO strike a patient
when he assaulted us.
REPoRTER-What, then, do you take to be the rea-
son why you have been treated in this mannerg
FARRELL-Well, you see, DR.. Echeverria was
away during the whole month OF August. Warden
Burke was away for only two days. but when lie
was away he was telegraphed that Ur. EcheYerria