The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-03-16

they had not done so well az they expected; inter-
viewed Gnameeraln; think ne called TO see me IN
regard 10 the loan extension or something OF the
kind; did not want TO talk TO nm about the
matter; declined 10 make arrangements with MIN
at all.
9. DO you know what General Wood did with the
money ae received from your A. only know from
nim ana iron MS Application II was Tor this dstii
Q; Do you know what he did with It Immediately ?
A. presume he leaned 1t right over to Chamber
lain; have no positive knowledge.
q. Have you since the present session OF the Leg
stature prior to tins time had any personal inter-
tervicw with him a. the railway eDlce since the
sonvenng OF the Less,atufe He called on ,a, ms
shown his family That Is the only time l have
seen him until now.
q. Have you ever had any correspondence with
him on the subject or his loan A. No, sir.
@. Have you ever sent to Senator Wood request.
ing payment OF ths loan. A. No, sir / did rot
propose to press II, and 10 not propose to press 1t
nos2
Q, Is Bradner in inc CITY MOVE A. I don't know.
noe became due, in New York; don't recall the
time; IT Was al the end ol The year.
z. AT the time he asked ycu Tor this money did ne
tell you what he wanted TO do with t2 A. Yes he
tcld me thau il was Tor Chamberlain.
@. Did he tell you what Uhamberlans business
was OF was ABOUT 10 be- A. lie SAID he was about
10 commence IN the ,lIstery business under new
q. Di he tell you whether he himself had any
interest IN u, a, No, SIR.
@. Was this note due al the time you gave 1t to
Bradner? 4. 1t was past dcc.
q. Did Bradner ask the note OF You or did You
gWe 1t to him voluntarily without his asking A.
gave IL 70 him. as ! base said TO see II ne could
not make some arrangement satisfactory to General
Wood for the payment OF 1t.
General Wood, at the time he had the lcan, that it
was made in consideration OF MS action as Senator,
tension OF such loan? H. No, sir; neither directly
nor indirectly. IN q business point OF view;
due TO his friends at The lime the note was
e. You stated that yon sent $4,000 10 secure to Sc
cure the nomination Of Mr.. Humphrey? A. Yes,
o. Now, in that connection, at the time You failed
to serve The end when yousOnght to accomplish by
sending that money, OF course the natural eilect Of
that your mind would he 10 believe that the sue
cessi candidate might Tor thls reason be unlrendy
TO Erie and TO yourself IN connection Win Erie: and
Won willinr, suppose 10 10 more and yield
10 General Woods wishes than Ii he had occnpied a
aiferent position, Tor the purpose OF concatng
due General Wood called on me ana said the bust.
mes; had not been prosperous ana his parties had
MOI been able 10 respond. and that he had relied
on them anu therefore could not meet IT. that was
all our conversation; Chamoeriain called on me
first, think, when was contemplating making
the loan; had nothlng TO DO With Chamberlain; IN
fact don't know whether Chamberlain knows
had note; know nothing about the hrm; what
or how much they were doing: | made tire loan
to Genera, Wood upon MS own honor, and relied
upon MIN.
Testimony Of senator Wood.
James Wool, being duly swosn, testified as
fOliOws:--l VIII state what Eae already appeared,
ina, Chamberlain and myser were partners In the
law business, aud we have always been ON intimate
terms: when Chamberlain was my partner he was
understood to be a man ot considerable wealth. In
1854. and some little tame after tnat, he was un
fortunate IN q speculation III yieyeand, ONO. and
suffered rever5es by which he lost his property; he
then went 10 New York ana induced me also 70 no
there where new partnership was formed oy
norton: stayed about a year and practised law
with them, but, not being very wei satls.
at att the END of Inc Year and returned to Gonesee;
Chamberlain continued IN New York ana was there
was at New York frequently as well as before, when
| saw Chamberlain and he preached TO me the SUD
ject OF this patent and his manner of recfyinS
shirts, and assured Inc that II some money cOupl
he raised u i0riune could he made cut OF IL IN u
short time; he Had the matter before me and adj
vIsed to other persons Interested IN patent
for recti yng wines and liquors, 10 wit, the LD1yS
and the pa,entse; went and saw them; aney were
enthusiastic about II, they tnOdght there could
be no mistake: al they wanted was to
GET THEIR MACHINES GOING
tney ss or S s @ , Wo sf a Mo ow pe no
SELF Oh The benes OF 1t: the Old man Libby, IN par
tIcular, enuiey satisfied in regard 10 II, ana he
finally convinced me That Il was u scheme which,
beyond a DOUBT, would result in making large sums
oil money: ne went and made an estimate of what
rectiiying spirits, ana nouced me TO believe IT, and
then sad In my posltion | could induce somebody
/ already they said, invested $4,000 in 1t; beev-
ing what was said TO me l cast about
mad become acquainted with Jay Gould III the
manner stated by him; knew tiat the Officers OF
!
my nomination to the senate, and IN January Jay
Gould was introduced 10 me by Senator Chapman,
me there was no hostility to me that caused the
officers OF the road 10 make an effort TO
defeat me ana nominate Humphrey, and
expressed friendly feeling; that was January;
this negotiation about raising money occurred in
February or Marcn; went TO Gould and stated
/ to hun the situation OF things, what
believed about 1t, and That within d years time
could have $4,000. the money could be repaid AMI
the persons interested could be in the receipt OF
income: IL,
maze some INQUIRIES and let ME know; before the
! got ready TO ask Tor IT. on the ll.h day OF Apr,
1870, was IN New York and went to Jay Gould
nm my note; WIN that money ,I went
fact That had learned from Hasiings-that Henry
other officers OF the bank, but from the fact that 1t
was down IN the lower end OF the city inferred
ssvnss 3 n ina
one OF The new savings banks created under the law
OF 1868; knew nothing about who the trustees
were had no idea that either Senator Tweed or
any other rweed was interested in II: mad become
acquainted with Henry Smith during the winter as
he was here,
INTERESTED IN VARIOUS SCHEMES
before the Legislature, ana was understood to be a
friend OF tue administration aud strong republic
money was deposited substantially for the benent
OF Chamberlain, and that he would draw it upon
my cneckS, WHICH SnOtiu leaVe Will nlm Ill DlaLk,
to be endorsed by HIN; Chamberlain and myself
signed our names on the signature book,' think
they call IT. took checkbO0k and left it with
Chamberlain, ana being desirous of using part OF
the money myself the same day drew check
County Savings Bank for $1,000 which
sent 10 him; there Is the check producing t); the
checks drawn by Chamberlain hold III my hand;
when / took the bank book there to be written out
the vouchers were returned to me, and left them
IN the city OF New York with a nephew who lives
there and mas charge OF some OF my papers; Rnel
L. Blake is citizen of Liyona, Livingston county;
as long ago as 1860 he was supposed to be worth
$4,000; he got lnvolved III embarrassmcnts in
purchasing wool with q man by the uame OF Carroll;
the result OF 1t was That ne had to
time he began to go down; was mis- counsel before
] went to the war, ana assisted him In raising
money from his securities to pay up the claims
against him. when not back from The army found
or Inns 4 inulfl a