New national era. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1870-1874, 1872-10-10
6reeley's datrigue.
Hi- secret Negotiations with Democrats I'm
she Fall OF 1871, While SIN Pretending
tn be a Rrpubiicnn-He Appoints "A Meeting
and names the Time for N Consultsttop

day Il long article reieralng It's charges re-
specting the CORE spOndenCe between Gree
ley, Carmichael, seymour, and others. he
ginning in the fail OF 1871, in which agree
ment was made TO bring out Greeley as the
Democratic candidate for President 1t is
accompanied with additional detail, including
an affidavit of Peter u. Vanderburg, IN which
he gives the results of several interviews
with Carmichael, and an affidavit by ex-
Asselnblyman Alpheus Bot. of Delaware
county, embracing an account of the origin
( OF the scheme, and of Grceley's cOrresp ond-
ence up 10 the time when he confessed hi,
own active participation in the trick for his
nomination by Democratic help.
Mr.. Van Nfadenbuig, in his affidavit, gives
the result Of conversations between himself
and Carmichael, from which we quote:
t9uc>iion-Thc correspondence began last
September, am told:
tarWichaol-Ics / wrote 10 Greeley
about tha! time, and addressed him N my
letter a the next President Of the United
states.
,tuestion--hid You have an intcryc y with
Mr.. Greeley alterward:
lGrmichael--l received an answer 10 ny
letter soon, in which he consented to an in
interview. | went to New York then, and
had long talk with him. He told me that
Horatio Seymour was a standing candidate
with the Democratic party, and that Nfr.
seymour would not step aside for him. /
| told him that he could not tell what Gov.
Seymour would do, and asked him if he would
be q candidate If Gov. Seymour would step
aside and support him if nominated. He
consented to be candidate if Gov. Seymour
and the Democratic leaders would support
him.
Questionable YOU see Gov. Seymour soon
after that?
Canmichael-Ics / saw Seymour within
a short time. He was not inclined to re-
ccive the proposition with much favor. /
gave him ny views and left him to think the
matter over. When / saw him again, by
appointment, he had made up his mind that
| was right. When l first saw Gov. Seymour
he preferred that IIutchins should nc made
candidate.
QueStioG-Did YOU inform Mir. Greeley
Immediately OF the fact that Gov Seymour
had consented to support him?
Carmiciae!-Ges soon after / saw Gov.
Seymour.
t!uestior--Wiat was done then?
Carmichael-Well, then / went to the
principal cities in the State, to consult with
the Democratic leaders.
Mr.. Bolt, an intimate friend of armichael
/ says that the latter visited him at his home
often in the fall Of 1871 and exhibited severa!
letters from Greeley, and afterward one from
Seymour. He continues that Carmichael's
plan then was to nominate Greeley by unit
, ing some Republicans and the Democrats
that he talked up the matter with prominent
citizens Of this section of the State and that
according to this statement, thirteen of them
had agreed 10 go with him to New York in
response to letter from Mr.. Greeley, ap-
pointing according TO deponent's best recoI-
! iection) the 18th of November as the day
when Mr.. Greeley would he ready to receive
Carmichael and his friends. The letter of
invitation was dated ia October, 1871. De-
! popent saw and read the letter, being spe-
| cially invited By Carmichael to be connected
with the movement, as a Republican, the
others of the thirteen being Democrats
= Carmichael called on deponent before
| the time agreed on for the visit to New Y ork,
and said the elections had gone so badly,
| (being Republican, that the Greeley move
ment in that form, by visit to New 7 ork, in
company, was given up. OF Carmichael's
own visit to New York, Mr.. Carmichael told
the deponent that he had an interview with
Mir. Greeley of four hours duration. The
conversation was mainly political; and Car
michael stated Greeleys views on the Pres-
Dental candidacy. Greeley said he was
willing to pass receipts with the Republican
party; that the Republican party owed him
nothing, and he owed the Republican party
nothing; and that he was willing TO be a
candidate Of the Democrats, and that this
should be understood. 1t was agreed at the
interview that Carmichael was to see Mr..
Seymour, though Greeley had doubts about
Carmichaels success with Seymour. Gree
, ley expressed his willingness that Seymour
should be seen in his interest. Deponent
saw five or six letters, all relating to the can
, didacy of Mr. Greeley. One referred to Sec
rotary Chase as broken down; Greeley
thought he should have been nominated ia
1863 that it was the duty of all to act to-
gether to heal the wounds opened by the
war, yet evidently referring to CaImichaePs
former letter. said he (Greelev) could not
see MS way clearly to 1872. The next letter
Of Greeley in order of date, as depOnent re-
collects, invited Carmichael and his friends
to New York. Among the other letters Of
Greeley was one IN answer to letter Of Car
michael proposing to have q meeting in
| Otsego i'll Mr. Greeleys interest. The an
swer of Greeley, which deponent read,
thanked Carmichael for the interest he had
taken for Greeley, but wished that no such
meeting should be held "for some time to
come" This was in the spring Of 1872
according to deponent's recollection, on the
4th or 5th of April. Still another letter of
Greeley to Carmichael requested Carmichael
to procure to be written letter from Mr..
Seymour, to be used in his (Greeley's) in
terest, at the Cincinnati Convention.
The Republican says that another witness
to this letter, whose testimony is unques-
tionable, confirms the reading so far, and
adds that it contained these words, or words
to this precise effect Waldo Hutchins is
my friend, and he will be there-at Cincin-
natl.
The Republican adds 1--WE have said that
Greeley action in the fall of 1871 was DELHI
crate, aud in this connection we charge, out
side Of the case of Carmichael, Seymour, and
Hutchins, that in the county ofTioga, on the
18th day of October Of last year, Mr.. Gree
ley mentioned to Democrats who proposed
to him the Presidency, the name of Gratz
Brown in connection with the Presidential
ticket, and that on the same day he put into
Democratic ears the pledge, that in no event
would he support Gen. Grant for the Presi-
dency in 1872. On the 18th day of August
preceding he had given public pledge in his
newspaper to support Grant, if nominated"
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