New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-06-24
THE ALABAMA BLUNDER.
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instructions, and only TO be used IN the case that the
proposals contained in note addressed 10 me yes
terday are agreed to by the United States"
Gen. schenck to Earl Granville, May %, in reply
ing to the latter's note, said:
THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT URGES DISPATCH.
am now instructed TO say that the article IN what
ever form adopted the proceedings before the arb
traitors at Geneva must he understood TO prevent only
the ~ OF me CLAIMS IN Y S9 STd
ship in this note proceeds TO INFORM me tlat her
as expressed in the senate amendment Of the principle
which both Governments prepared to adopt for the
future is so vague that It is impossible TO
what it is or is not applicable and they believe it would
only lead "a future Observation-Disclosures. That Her
Maiestys Government prefer the article they had
drafted It, but have objection 10 accept the article In
the form proposed by the Senate, with the substitution
OF the words, of like nature, for the words, for
remote indirect losses and the substitution of the
words, such want OF due DILIGENCE on the part OF
neutral for the Words the failure 70 observe neutral
relations fastened 70 telegraph the full substance OF
all this communication to Mr.. tlsa, am as yer
without any answer to That telegram ou an Dui p
pared believe that the modification can be assented 70
ny the Presdeht such chaheo oi nnauaSs NV Id
alter the whole character OF inc hgretmeyt' anu
further his reply Cen Schenck says: nm rule should
they may arise, and ought not 70 consist In refer
ence TO cases or circumstances when mayor may NOT
occur and be limited TO those Instances without
application 10 other cases IN Wueh he uoho y.
alleged may be equally or further removed rom the act
of which il is assumed 10 be the result They do
not that there is vagueness In such rile or dih
Guilty in its application 10 facts beyond wl4t may DO
said any Oiler principle embodied in statue treaty
law" evil you, then, unite with rs Inc Govern
ment OF the United states IN az agreement founded upon
tldt principle TOT Wb.ch YOU contend, AM as DfOau
the principle tse, that claims for remote OF indirect
losses should Tot be admitted the result failure TO
observe Eeutral obligations, and viii you unte Win Us
in declaration that this principle will hereafter guide
the conduct Of both Governments In their citations to
each otheri Can Great Britain continue TO reply that
while she desires 10 uch rule consistent with tho
position she has taken against tine whole cla's OF remote
or indirect CLAIMS against neutral sue NUT persist III
combining it In terms to only such peculiar descriptions
OF that class of indirect claims a. happen
now 10 ne the subject Of contention between her aud The
United States and which particular KIND OF claims may
never have esience again Will not seem this be the
limit of the agreement that the object Is not to anrm
and yindcate an important principe put only nI an
expedient for excluding from consideration or extn-
gushing altogether certain matters winch arc uhIor-
tunately now present cause OF Controversy
Earl Granville informed Gen. Schenck, Nay %
that Her Majesty's Governmental far from assert
ing that the form of the article proposed by them is
not capable of further Improvement upon sufficient
causes being shown. Sir Edward Thornton has no
instructions use his full pOweB except in accord
ance with the arrangement we have proposed Earl
Granville wrote to Gen. Schenck, May %:
think it desirable at once to address you the fol-
lowing observations. Her MaIestys Government pro
posed an article the suggestion the American Gov
ernment That article had been amended ny ne senate
Her Maesss Government are mol bOe 70 ma IOr IL us
amended any means standard o! Interpretation The
words appear to include the wiltul misconduct OF
neutral as well a failure from want OF due diligence
They cannot suppose this to be the meaning OF the
American Government. Her Majesty Government ned
an be claims made hy the United states for losses which
were the direct results the OF vessels mentioned
in the Treaty 10 be claims for indirect losses as the re-
sult of the failure to observe mutual relations" Her
Maestys Government hold many OF the claims for the
losses mentioned to be claims for losses which are
remote as we'll az indirect while resulting from failure
10 observe neutral obligations Her M1jesty's Govern
ment unable TO signify an assent TO form OF article
and with respect TO which, owing probably to the diff
Guilty OF Geographic communication tbey nave not Decn
aunTsed he meaning which the American Government
attaches TO it or OF the which have led TO its
being proposed. If the Government OF the Unteu Sates
think IL desirable 20 give the information which Her
MupstV'g Government Wish receive on tDcsb POINTS
and also think Cor that purpose some adOurnmento the
time OK the meeting of the Arbitrator at Geneva should
take place. Her Maesty's Government would be ready
agree any suitable proposal for that purpose when
they presume could only be done by snort treaty Dc
tween the two governments
Gen. schenck briefly replied to Earl Granville,
saying: Il shall hasten tonight to communicate
the whole of this note by telegraph to my Govern
ment" Gen. Schenck teegraphed to Mr. Fish, May 81:
At 2:l5 this morning Lord Granville sends me the
following. dated 30th: SIR: am unable TO admit the
accuracy of the description which Mr. Fish has given
the telegIaphc message which yon have communicates
10 me to-day Of the which Her Maicstys Govern
ment has pursued on Inc objects winch tney nave nad IN
view can only attribute such misunderstanding TO
the imperfectiOn unavOdaby attendant on negotiations
by telegraph, which makes ~ aneuIt ior elmer party
clearly to understand the views ana arguments OF
the other This circumstance seems 10 strengthen
the reason for the suggestion whch ndue I'D NVf vi
an adjournment OF meeting OF the Tribunal OF AfDIa
ttOn ar Geneva. Her Maicsty GOveTnment have stated
their objections 10 the words proposed by ihe senate
have already Informed you that they dd not pretend
that the words suggested by themselves were incapable
Improvement and they haYe resolved 10 make su
gestiOn which they trust VIII meet the Vows OF DOh
Governments. proceed thFeiore o. put you III pos.
session OF draft article OF which inclOse copy, and
which, If adopted by the government on inc Uhiied
States Her M0estys Government would be prepared 70
accept o,...4. n, NJ. p-i,toD,o N,o,os,v
has coutended In the recent correspondence with the
Government OF the United states US tollows, nainey:
That such indirect claims rs nose Tor he national losses
stated in the case presented Gu the part OF tine Govern
at Geneva TO have been sustained by the loss IN INC
transfer OF the American tOmipercal marine 10 lhe
prolongati0n Of the war; nDd the ADDITION OF large
sum 10 the cost OF the war and the suppress |
sion OF the rebeliOn-GEtly Iwere not inclnded
in fact IN tue Treaty of Washington; and further, ana
secondly should not be admitted IA principle as grow
ing out Of the acts committed by particular vessels al
legged 10 have deem enabled 10 commit depdations upon
the shipping OF belgereDt by reason Of such want
tons as that which is imputed by the United states 70
Great Britain and whereas the Sove oi,o, OF , ss
included in the Treaty; and A.,
whereas Both Governments adopt for the future The
Indirect Losses should be admitted resulting from
the acts Of begerente. which such bellserents may
gence on the part of neutral IN the performance OF
neutral obligations Ear as to declare th this principle
VIII hereafter guide the conduct OF both sOVerheh'sh
their relations with each other;
Now therefore fn consideration thereo, the President
claim on the part OF the United States before the Trb
classes of indirect losses hereinbefore enumerated
Mr.. Fish telegraphed to Gen. Schendz May 81:
As stated in a previous dispatch which you COM
Her Maiestys GOvernmenb unless treaty
be signed and ratified by this Government today so as
to be transmitted to London by omorws steamer Tor
ratification by Her Majesty It will not DO possible thal
II become operative In time to be laid efore the arDltra
tors at Geneva, the 18th of June, which day the
existing Treaty requires that the Arguments be pre-
scented. Your telegram reached me this morning WITHIN
thirteen hours Of the departure OF the last
by which copy or treaty
can leave here TO take the stesmer tomorrow
IL would be Impossible for the Senate within that meto
consider the important changes proposed 70 te form OF
the terms which, after long debtTation they nave
agreed TO advise the President negotiate the proposed
article. Her Majesty's Ministry has already been APP
pri sed Of this. To propose change OF language IN
voving change Of object and OF effect az TINS ate
period is, therefore practically TO defeat any ant
Lord Granville admits that the Language OF the article hist
proposed by Her Maiesty's Government might De IN
- Pre- lint the may De