The New York herald., 1872-11-13
Reply the First to James An.
thony Froude.
A Vindlcation Of the "Honor Of Ire
land in History
The Days Before and After tho Norman Con-
quest-Mr. Froude's Assertions Discussed
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. Instances Of Eng
lish Justice-The Truth About
Pope Adrian's Letter.

on Irish history, In reply to those recently delivered
by Mr.. Froude There was an immense audience
that filed every part Of the building. The enthu-
siasm evoked was far greater than was called forth
by the English historian, and the treatment Of the
subject was certainly In q much more lively and
entertaining vein. The special topic OF last nights
discourse was ''The Normans in Ireland,n and 1t
covered the same period as was embraced in Mr..
Froude's opening lecture.
Father Burke, dressed In his Dominican habit
came upon the platform at about a quarter past
eight O'Clock, and was received with an ovation of
applause and cheers that lasted several minutes,
and was again and again renewed As soon as the
audience settled down to serious attention Father
Burke advanced to the front OF the platform.
HE BEGAN
his lecture by saying II was strange fact that the
old battle that had been raging for 700 years
should be continued 80 far away from the old land.
The question he was about to discuss had been
disputed at many council board and in many
Parliament and on many har fought field, and
was not decided yet-the question between Eng
land and Ireland. Mr.. Froude had frankly stated
that he had come here to deal with this Irish
question from an English standpoint and, like Q
true man, he had made out the best case he could
for his own country. He had asked the American
public to agree with him that the Irish had in
deed been badly treated, but that they had only
GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.
It ts true, said he, that we English have robbed
and misgCverned and persecuted them; but then
they would have been worse or II we had let them
alone. II that excuse were valid not o criminal
to-day In jail could be justly kept in custody Since
the Conquest Mr.. Fr0ude claimed that English
legislation, II 1t had not been always
tender, had been In intention at least
benencent while the Irish had never
understood their own interests or knew what was
best for them. He had also said that what had
been the fate OF the Irish in the past would be their
lot In the future. When Mr.. FrOudc came here
many persons had asked what was his motive.
Some had supposed him IN emissary Of the Eng
lish government, which had begun to fear the ris-
ing influence in this country Of the eight millions
OF Irishmen now among US. According to such
sympathy for their Irish fellow citizens and there
fore sent here o learned man, with On extra
Whatever he wsd iG
was mainly what an tmpracticable, accursed race
the Irish were. others said England was every
year growing weaker, and she was plainly In the
last stages Of national decay. She had lost her
great ally in France; her army was very
Of cfAs al least one ' other Power, s and her her
people were discontentcd. Therefore, sald these
ance. Yet, again, others had said that MIR. Froude
had come here on the invitation of small sect of
III bgo ae Buf1Se hswevr protested
ment's attention. He was willing to give Mr..
Froude credit for
and he believed him incapable OF anything base
or mean sordid. His own motives Mr. Burke,sj
do s pSsos T 90 M e
had been suspected OF being agent OF the British
government, so he might perhaps be accused OF
came tonight to vndicate the honor OF Ireland In
her history; he came to show that at no time
one OF the that she had borne. Mr.. Froude
was unfit to discuss Irish affairs, because he con.
and had given up the task OF finding a remedy for
present evils and grievances as bad job. He had
said In an article he had written not many years
ago that the end would probably be that the Irish
would either have to be banished or coerced Such
man ought not to come to America to cast the
HOROSCOPE OF IRELAND's FUTURE.
Another cause why he was unfit to discuss the
future OF Ireland was that he despised Irishmen.
had tS known n gentle, amable Ensshen, who would
not wiliuly do wrong TO any one and yet he had
seen such men in thousand silent ways manifest
their contempt for the Irish race. His desire in
stating this was not to stir up M-will but simply
because it the secret OF the antipathy that
who was himself incapable OF an ungenerous sen.
tment towards any one or about anything, was
s ago he had told scotchmen that the reformation
and John Knox were the influences that had made
the scotch character so grand and NOBLE and
speaking OF scotchmeu at all. he had stated that
no man could understand 2 people unless he was
had made such apology In speaking OF the Irish.
He boldly took up his subject and held Irshmen up
excuse to the irish in America. In one OF his books
he had said They may BE be t good a., at the the voting
SS Sss Tefs s @ n0 70 WIN inc
PACK OF HOUNDS,
TO whom freedom @ would only result I'm In their tearing
to treat Irish history because his hatred and de-
tcstation Of the RoInish Church He had spoken Of
had held her responsible for the massacre OF st.
Bartholomew, and for almost every other murder
had See him in New YORK had given HIM to
understand that they did not accept MIN as
woa Accuse 'sa
q lie, but his mind was distorted by prejudice. A
citizen Of Brooklyn had recently convicted him of
commas" conf Mr.. Froude had represented Henry the
e ss even as the gee e sa
out, "Mr ;, Froqde, you ), have mistaken
tsranny sa Become the most %e
and, when the English people had begun to hate
their clergy, IN order TO please their King, man
order to please the King the twelve backguards
who were the jury brought II verdi verdict Of murder
The Bishop protested, and the Jury, on appeal,
were proved pernrers!; M. MT. Froade had used this
clergy, saying nothing about the end Of the story.
Mr.. FRoUDE's FIRST LECTURE,
for the first time realized what it was TO follow
will OF the wisp through marsh. Mr.. Froude had
attempted to justify the Norman invasion by
Ireland before that conquest. He had said
that there. was then IN Ireland neither
fore, the Pope had sent the English as sort OF
policeman to restore law ana order. He had
said that every family then governed itself accord
what did he mean by family Not the family as it
was understood at the present day, but the sept
n
and which owned large extents OF land and some
times whole counties. A family then meant q
and acknowledging no other sovereignty.
There were. i've great families In Ireland
and under these there were smaller septs or
families acknowledging the sovereignty Of these
royal houses. These houses elected o sovereign
over all who dwelt at Tara. Under these circum-
stances was Mr.. Froude fair I'm saying that every
family 0nyernad Itself accnrdinn To ifa own