New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-02-02

ned wppobousemeni A. Certainly; they can tho
room two oS or lTe and GO out QUICKLY m Is months
storage whether they stay lhere d DAY or MONTH
whereas IN te saoaS for tse , mnotS
o il there M much trouble IN breaking out and deIv-
orng packages OF goods to General Order warehouse
| man ~ a bonded warebOuscmant A. No difference
W. ~ Won had hundred barrels OF brandy I'm your
bonded warehouse which to 10 remain there during
the full month, you not frequently called upon
In take single barrels out at orcn mt times A. Yes Sir.
O. And in the General order warehouses do they not
generally go out in bulkG A. Yes.
@. Then The labor is more in the bonded warehouse
than In the General order stores A. Yes Sir there
are such cases frequently
q Your carriage was systematic source OF profit 20
yOui A. Yes, Sir; the legal load 1900 pOund they
would bring perhaps two packages TO the load which
each weighed 500 pounds the average Is q to the load
General Order store than the other storesi A. Not
penny.
Senator Cassorly-was the sneral Order business at
tho time Col Lect got 1t considered valuable przo A.
Yes, Sir
O. Was there much strife after it, A. Ibelieve there
was.
@ Was Col Leet active in the NEGOTIATIONS between
you A. Yes he attended to IL principally himself
@ After the arrangement terminated between you and
him, what did nc do A. Took warehouses OF his own ;
went In with Mir William h. Stocking believe, and Mr.
@ Did YOU first apply to Mr. Grinnell for the business
A. made formal application in writing to him. ana
@ How long that did Col Leet make the E5solia
lions Win NOut a. thlnk u was ABOUT tlllt time.
q since You nave been in the General Order business
have you been obliged pay for III A. Not before the
arrangement with Col Lce II you want to call that pay
O. Don't you call IT thats A. Yes, Sir
Senator PTatt-Did Mr.. Grnne know OF the arrange
ment between you and Lett A. Yes. Sir.
O. DID he arrange the matter with Mr.. Grinnelli A.
Yes Sir he must have for soon after the General order
stores were designated 10 me- 80
@. You have no personal knowledge about It'll A. No,
Sir
Q What in your opinion during the year 1871 was the
General Order fairly worth for both sides Of the
North avert a. should say froRl $4,000 to $4,000
O. Would there he more smuggling II each steamship
company had tie General Order store A. You send
goods 20 my store and your opportunities Tor maf9ns
would cease rs soon as they reached my store but you
have the store yourself YOU would nave ume OppOrtu-
ni'y ana place for smuggling.
g. Wo0li you rot have the government Queer al ono
well as the other a. Yes, Sir
O. And would he not have the same opportunity 10
guard the goods? 4. Yes, SIR but Customh0uoe officers
fIibic class as general rule, you can lcach JUS
tOm-house officers. . . ,
G. You think that the Government of the United
: cs would nave means OF preventing smuggling II
thCy allowed these steamship companies 10 nave ware
houses Of their owns A. 90 mol go 10 that eAloht, D
they would have more facilities for smuggling II they
wished to 90 50; another reason u mat an hG Stedl'nlp
interest i'm the hands OF foreigners, ana should be
unwilling 70 allow tlcm to have thre privileges; Ameri-
cans do not have them IA other cOuntrlrs
HOW OFFICERS ARE BBIBED.
o. How are CustoIu-housc officers brbc12 A. Oh, go
poke tcn.dol!ar bill at them they will do almost any
thing for that.
O. DID tncy get goods away from you in that way' A
Yes, Sir.
@ When dill that commence A. think It com
mcuccl on the day that the General order bust
hcss commenced, and has continued ever since Laugh
Mr. Pratt-Whcn unclaimed goods arc sold at the cy
praton of year. are tAcy sold publicly under cata
q let me inG.rc whether these packages are opened
1eiOrc the sale, to DC subject to lnspectOuf a
O. Nav every man know precisely what is in every
pIck4gt} A. Yc SIl; the goods are specified III the
ca'a!o-ic. and priced b. the Appraiser.
q. so tNat II {. man gets cheated ho has nobody 10
blaine but LImaalli a. Nobody but himself and the
Mr.. Eoyard-Arc Won certain of thatl A. Yes. Sir
Q. Have yon ever attended any OF these sales A.
Never hut once.
Q. Dld you over purchase anything at these salcsi
Q. How long ago did you attend a sae' A. About ten
@ Then you have had opportunity Of knowing about
the sae5 Low or recently A. 1o'' sir Iha'e Deeh III
O. bid Tie sale you attended take place in sight OF the
ro6d,I 4. No. Sir; and there WAS lime when tine
goods were not examined; they were sold "unSsht I'M
@ How long IS it since You examined one Of those
catalogues! A, Two or three months ago.
o. Look at this catalogue (hundr- 10 10 Witness); look
al number in the c-tAosue-thAt Ia what! a. A case
O. Does it tell you the quantity of snuff A. NO Sir;
buf that the appraisers say IT IL woIth So
g what opportunity has the purchaser TO Know v now
O. Then he would have to than up to snuff If
ne o. p L6oR at lot o' .; " A. That Is bao of pepper
g. Is there anything TO signify how many pounds OF
uci,pcr or its quality or condition. a. n ,. Sir
O. Tuen without going further, do You consider That
catlo .uc is ANYTHING than mere Illusion OF dcu
snn Ia the public mind what those articles arc1 a.
The delusion Illusion SremOycd to some extent by tile
valuations put upon th1 articles Of the Appraiser.
O. Yuu stated, if / understood yOu correctly that
while Won made no money in the business while Lcet mad
an interest IN il at 81 20 per average sized package you
tGougt Won would be perfectly willing To do the whole
General Order business of tho North River at the rate OF
30 cents a package 4. Yer, Slr
O. NOW. Sir, let ask you If the distinction which
Won draw does not arise the fact that yOu did
snail business AT 81 20 and made no money, but If you
had al the business which Lcct Stocking have had IT
would amount much that you could afford to
do it and make money at 10 cents A. Yes, Sir, that Is
| IL exactly. .. ,
| Senator Pratt-What your politics at the time You
were cugagcd III the General Order business a. /
| "A Democrat, right up To the handle.
| q. Did Mr.. GIinuell know thlsi A. Yes. Sir.
Senator Buyard-Did Loot know this A. Yes, Sir;
| did not wish to deceive MIN IN tina; re- pect
Senator CasSerly-DOcs not the Collector Laye com
pctc control over the General order business A. Yes
| Sir entirely.
senator Pratt-why then do people complain OF Lect
| Stocklug2 A. think they should complain Of the CO.
| ccor; he has the whole matter in his charge
Senator CasscIiy-Is it not sometimes the case that
officials abuse The trust rcpOscd III thcmi A. have
| known OF such cases.
This concluded the afternoon testimony.