The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-03-28

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by parliamentary rule In constituting committee
the members must believe that the party charged Is
Mr.. sUMNER-I hope you viii NOS put that ques-
ton.
Mr.. CARPENTER-I have.
Mr.. SUMNER-Then decline TO answer II.
MIR. CARPENTER Did not every member OF this
committee vote for the investigations
MIR. SUMNER-The record VIII answer.
Mr.. CARPENTER-Dld not every member now Sit
ting on this committee avow himself favorable TO
the most searching investigation and voted for the
IT'S NOT s.THE THING.n
Mr.. SUMMERTIME record shows that several mem.
bers OF tins committee declared again and again
against what parliamentary writers call "the
Mr.. CARPENTER-Did not say was in favor OF
the most searching inquiry
Mr.. SUMNER-Yes; but after you made speech
showing there was necessity for 1t. SO, II there
Is any vitality in the rule you are disqualified ana
ought to have declined TO serve. =.
MIR. CARPENTER-l thank you for your advice. II
the Senate thought ut 10 put me on the committee.
would IL not have been immodest in me to decline
Mr. sUMNER-You should have searched your own
MIR. CARpENTER-My conscience is perfectly clear.
Mr. SUMNER-l will enter into no controversy l
was at home under medical treatment on the day
the committee was appointed. II had been IN the
Senate should have felt IT my duty to oppose the
formation Of the committee and mold IT up as
Migrant violation OF law
ON IT'S DIGNITY
After further questioning Mr.. Carpenter OBJECTED
to Mr. Summers protests gong on the record, as
they assailed the committee.
Mr.. HAMLIN regarded them as absolutely insulting
to the committee and then asked Mr.. Sumner
whether Chambrun mad furnished him with the
Mr. SUMNER replied he had not, nor had he FUR
nished to him sources Of Information. He thought,
however. he had mentioned one name, General
Ingalls, 49,
mate to derive information on matters OF public
AGENT OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
Mr.. SUMNER-Not the least. should fan In my
from all sources within my reach. Testimony was
not excluded on account OF color, and believe 1t
Sc self e Of ans cr ecns
the interests Of the country and he should employ
MIR. HAMLIN-would you deem it the duty OF
patriotic Senator to inquire Of foreign legation Us
to questions tending
with other governments VINO have made no COM
plant?
this point am obliged 10 say that no such question
here arose.
MIR. HAMLIN--Answer my question:
Mr.. SUMNER-I answer In my own way.
Mr.. HAMLIN-I put general question.
MIR. SUMNER-I consider 1t q question not appll-
Mr.. ScnURz then put question TO Mr. Sumner,
when Mr.. Hamlln said want an answer TO my
regard IL as an abstract question not involved In
the inquiry. decline 10 answer 1t.
Mr. SCHuRz then repeated MS question, somewhat
GONE TO VENEZUELA
"In the case before the government ABOUT the
against the commissioners Of improper awards, and
IL was being investigated Dy Congress, Wouu you
the conduct OF the American commissioners, ior
Senator 10 obtain any information on tnaL SuOJecC
from the Venezuelan Legation ~
MIR. SUMNER-He should deem IL 10 DC MS uuty
to obtain the informauon, no matter from what
quarter In Offering his resolution Tor TINS inquiry,
lie considered our neutrality had been violated,
while 1t was his Judgment that no complalnt would
come from Germany. -
Judgment
OFF TO GREAT BRITAIN
Mr.. CARPENTER-H you mad heard rumorS or con.
duct on the part our government affecting Great
Britain wnicn she did not see dt to make the sub
iect OF complaint, and you mad come in possession
or facts from the British Legation to show our
government was in the wrong, would you eel IL 10
be your duty TO enter the Senate and spread them
before the world?
A Senator must be governed by sense Of duty. II
he sees the
CHARACTER OF THE GOVERNMENT SUFFERING
and It's officers falling under suSplciOn establishing
q dangerous precedent, ne must prevent the pre-
Cedent from being established.
Mr. SCHURz asked Mr.. sumner whether he knew
when the main facts In the case so lar as the inter-
national question was concerned, were nrst spread
broadcast over the world. Was IL not on the TRIAL
OF Placer
Mr. SUMNER, IN response, exhibited the account
oil the trial as 1t appeared IN q Paris journal The
letter OF Remington to Lecesne was filed IN open
court The documents were filed January 10. In
response to a question by Mr. Carpenter Mr.. sum-
said he received copy vi Mr.. Belknap's letter
to Secretary Fish from NJ de Chambrun ana ne
understood he IN. de Chambrun) had received a
copy OF Reminetons letter from Place. Mr.. sum-
ner then retired.
Mr.. CARPENTER renewed his motion to return the
protests to Mr., SUMNER but on motion OF Mr.. Stew
enson, the motion was postponed until there should
be O lull committee
me committee then adjourned until tomorrow.