New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-03-06
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Q. What is the date Of your first acquaintance with
O. Was he then assigned 10 duty Gen Grants staff
A. He was then Assistant General and assigned
70 Gen. ynss really, but at Tue headquarters 1t was
9. When did you yourself go upon Cen. Grants staff
| q. Where A. In Washington when he became Lieu
telantGeneral and took command OF the army, there
| that h CHER than Major General
q. Have you been on his staff ever since A. Ever
AnaaSOu were then assigned to duty as Secretary
O. Have you known Col. Lee from that time TO this
A. Yes. Sir, have known htn He was stationed IN
Spring OF 1885, that did not serve together in the
O. Did be remain upon the stafY and was he assigned
10 duty at HEADQUARTERS all the along until the Pres
| dent was naugliratedi a. Yes, sir:
war Departmen 70 conduct the compilation OF records,
| with which he was famlarf A. Yes, eIr'
| THE GENERAL ORDER BUSINESS.
@ When did you first hear Of the General order pus
nessi A. That would be hard to tell; have been so u
familiar with the details OF the business that the name OF
that particular business dill convey to my mind any
definite idea OF its character, and when heard men
speak OF public stores and warehouse business and Cen
eral Order and carriage, and igherage, had 1ut very
little knowledge OF any OF them until read the testi-
iDOny taken by Mr.. Patterson's Committee
wa0 me- York %a OF value do
know that any one ever informed me OF that par
O. Wien did you first get idea that It was business
out Of which money was to be nadei a That cannot
O. Can you not give any dates at all abOutiti A. do
q Did Won know that there was such thing as the
General Order business before the Presidents Inaugural
| O. Never knew there was such thing A. Never had
| heard oft
that time, the Winter preceding the nauguratoni A;
No. was not had an office on the second noor ana
he the first nOor, and we were not thrown Huch
g You we're both on duty at headquarters A. Yes,
@ And you had been on the staff together before thatl
O. were you aware Of the fact that he had a
ton with Gen. Grant about two months prior to his IN
auguration respecting the General Order business A.
| l was not aware OF IL.
O. Yoa never knew that he had that conversation A.
q And that he explained to the President all that he
| GecO knew about tie busnessi A. No, did not know
| at the time OF such q conversation.
O. Were you aware chat he then proposed to eaye me
was applying for some position, did not know what IN
part, and then there wa offered t9lIectctsaiP
OF tornal Revenue at New-Orlean.; did not kno"
but tL2t that was the office he was after. a. - ~,
Grant before be was inaugurated
Y9 we're not aware n@t he had spoken to the Pres
before tue Inauguration A. No, was not. 49,.
O. Dd Cen Grant ever tell yog of IT, At that time Go or
seeing the testimony before the Committee something
O. Had Won any knowledge that Mr.. Grinnen was 10
be- the Collector Of the Port of NewYOrk before he re-
ceiyed the postioni A. Before lie was actually ap-
O. was that a subject of conversation between Won
and Others. at which Leet was PRESENT. A. canlot
@ You remember there fact discussed that Grin
nc be the Collector Of the Port of New-Iork be
fore lis nomination ill., in the Presdeuts mill
tary family there A. do rec0llcct whether it was
discussed but II generally known some time before
q. When I'D you first receive the letter that Gen.
Grant wrote to NJ. GrinGell recommending Mr. Let
A. COL Lect stepped of the Presidents room into
mine, and had this letter in his hand, and showed II to
Q. You say It was understood that Grinaell to be
the Collector OF the Port OF NewYork time bcfoge
that j. Il was generally known.
PREPARING FOR THE RAID.
@ At that time did Mr.. Leet say anything 20 yoN OF
what his object in going to New-Yorkl A. I ear
not tell whether he did Just that time but about that
time-he WAS going backward and forward occasionally
he gave this impression; Of course cannot repeat
all the words he used there nothing to impress this
point upon my memory particularly; but he gave me
The IMPRESSION that he going into the genera ware
house bu uess and that wanted Mr.. Grinnei 10 m
creae his business by sending some OF the GoYernn ent
O. Did YOU understand that what he meant by Govern
nen stores would be the caimed S0od maj ff tb
the tspds i fmppFfeed SP9ffhh iPff 'Ae
O Have Won since discovered that he referred to the
n Rmt You had no technical knowledge OF the subject
~ know What he meant at that time A NO. SIT DI'
O. How long before Mi Grinuers appointment wa
the generally known that he was 70 DC appointed
after the Inauguration Of the President and Nj GTli
nell think, not appointed until about the enc u
O. Was Mr. Grnnen in Washington before his ap-
polntment y. | think not; 10 not feeoiect seeing
O. DO YOU know r b. Catherwood Of New-York! \.
O. The son-in-iaw Of Mr.. Corblni A. He is some con-
nection; cannot say what 1t IT, .,,,,,-..n
| O. Do YOU remember seeing Mt Grlnnell ana MT cain
er%ood AZ wizards Hotel prior 70 Grinne receiving his
appointment A do not recolecti IL Is PQss'9e ci
neil before his appointment 4. think not before his
I appointment; l have dined with him there. ia.
dining at Wiar's Hotel with M Grnne Just before
lie was appointed Collector OF the Port OF Ne~1orAf A.
| /
O. Do you tbink it quite lteyl A It is possible that
did; will not say that dd not; .
| Q. DO yOu remember that MI. CatherW0od was pres
enti A. That do not recolect .,..
| o. You cannot remember that A. cannot recolect
where first met Mr.. Grinnell.
! % Do YOU remember whether yOu and Mr. Grnnell and
MI Catherwood and Mr. Leet dined at Willard Hs T.,
and t19t tue r SsrS A. oIGr rnne Tas spnonted
O. Before Mr.. Grinnel received his commission as COZ
o. You thinkit did not take place A. 1t is possible
O. Aud do you think the Parte: that have nsmef
%efe PrUo"PS PeIoher dining twice With Mt Grnne
@. Was Mr. Catherwood present at either OF those &c
casions A. That cannot recOllect. 80
O. Was Cen BabcOek present on either OF those oeca
sons That cannot reeo dSt % ,,o.e occas,ors
Who Were present on either Of those occasional A.
Alone dinner Senator Wilson was present, and .Nr.
Blatchford New-York the old gentleman an WtIma e
friend OF MIR. GrnnePs; those are the only IVY 'uas
O. At either Of those dinners the General Order
business discussed A do not recoeet that 10 xas
O. Do you say il was mott A. II esnnet reeollee
the persons present at dinner 50 long ago, IL rs no.
likely could recOect the conversational ~ lliI ,
You are unable to give any sSSts%sst Ssr
were present or THIS subject unhsrdi4cnssfnns "A
not the sh Sss FeSSsSq q NJ
Batchord and senator ,S Wilson Had sned a
wa sSp Hotel Hnd Mr ana W. Let and
Mr.. Grnnel and Gen BabcQek haa heen tnsFe ana Elt