The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-04-05
AN INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT THEIRS.
Franco Waking-yhe C.untrv Cannot Remain
Diaarmod-spirit Of the Army-Is Is in
Splendid Condition-What Bismarck
Ray DO with His Millions
France Working for Peace.

M. Eugene d'Arnoult, a contributor to the Panfe,
who has Just returned to Paris from a somewhat
long tour In the East gives the following report OF
q conversation he had with M. THEIRS on sunday,
the nth ult., at Versai!ies:--
Our part in Europe unn we are ourselves again,
said M Theirs 10 me- ought 10 be that Of lremcn:
we ought to endeavor to cxiinguish every ncen
diary attempt which may be made. We are merely
entering upon stale OF conyaescence, and nothing
ought TO Interfere win that c0nvalescence which,
thanks TO the good constitution OF France, VIII be,
hope, OF short duration. When France sleeps she
sleeps wcl but when she wakes she wakes well
also; ut this moment she Is waking, and am direct
Ing this awakening in the most pacific sense. Those
they say. Undoubtedly 1t Is o bitter pin,
bur u must o be awalowed An onr Effort efforts
to develop industrial and agricultural resources,
which are still the finest IN the world and to restore
her former presvlge 10 France. II is necessary That
the world should pacncally perceive thai Franco
exists and that she atIll has certain weight IN the
balance II Is for this purpose thal apply myself
above all 70 re-cstablIsh the finances ana fOrm
good army. large army is onerous; but with the
armamenIs each day more Formidable, OF the Euro
pean States, France cannot remain disarmed. She
must even maintain her rank as a military Power.
The spirit OF the army IS excellent have 1870, 900
men VINO have been In huts Tor the last eighteen
months. IL Is rough school, but what men come
from that school and what Power can produce the
than under The empire, Tor, with the exception Of
the Guard, there was nor single regiment which
was organized IA the true sense OF the word Alter
these $50, 900 men In huls whom consider the n,i.
cleus OF an Incompatible army, 1901 900 others VIII
go through the same school, ami BY degrees we
SHAH possess an army without riva.
Interrupted the President TO ask him II the ma.
terta colresponded WIN the condition o. The men;
81 answer yes without hesitat,0n,n replied M.
Tiiers. 1--WE have, according 20 the Prussians
themselves. the best rife known. Our stationary
range than those OF the Prusstans, nearly all OF
whlca are now icing converted a! the foundry:
on the score OF accuracy; the deviation is, perhaps,
still metre Before long lnls FAULT wiz no longer
wi 10 n
Soacc with thai iii tke world" "''' Univ NV "
objected that this peace. in favor OF which
turbed by Germany. Prince Bismarck said
]. mas two milliaras Of hard cast, in. ms
invlncibility; the alliance Of Aastro,iIungary;
that more than probably, or Italy; GER
Count MoltEe; The. friendly neutrality OF England,
Il that neutrality ~ not evea more than frieadly.
Is not to pc feared lest Prince Bismarck slrong in
all these advantages ana III certain others should
hurry on tine aggressive projects he has long cher-
now tnat ne regards war against Russia as nev-
table as, after 1865, no reserded war against
Powers while a third remains whlcn may dispute
the palm with him.. 1t may be Anticipated that
Prince bismarck. with his logical ana far-reachlng
mnd, has thoaght OF that, and that he will take
pood care not 70 initiate Napoleon ILL.,, who, after
having trlumpned over Russia ana vanquisued
Austria, did not know now TO profit by the moment
to crush Prussia before she became Germany
All that replied NJ. Timers, Is predetermined. AS
up. PeOpie 40 not vet know what enormous ex-
penseS Germany incurred In that war; can assure
you that OF those two millaris nothing remains.
1nat Prince Bismarck reckons uron making war
with the three other milllards which We snail pay
hin, IS very probabe We SHALL notwithstanding,
1utii our engagements. hope, however, that we
shall have sufficient weight in europe to prevent
war. Our army viii soon count for something N
the matter. The French soldier has been wrongly
Judged III connection VITA the late events. But
1Cr It's decomposition, when was OWING to
the EMPIRE anu nos TO ITSELF the army would
have been the same as formerly Whatever
may bc sad, our officers are sim the most lntelli-
gent ana the most energetic III Europe. Now that
they are WORKING thew Win soon aurpasS those OF all
otnor stats. And the soldier WHAT nre What
bravery With what Jury, with what fnvlncibe
force, those soldiers fought before Paris ana
mounted every OBSTACLE lad the defence OF Paris
been conducted otherwise the entire RUSSIAN army
would have been crushed uGder Its walls. Let us
return To the present; let US now be hnRnciers,
a9rsculturists, manufacturers ana merchants and,
ABOVE all, let us he united WHAT immense strength
we should gam al once If our dlsunon, which is
superficial rather than deep-saated, were to dsap-
pear oar relations with foreign Powers are excel
lent, but they should Uecome better siill. You are
g0lng 10 reuri 10 the East. II on the way you are
ASKED what think, and what IL doug In France
openly repeat what have just told you. Add that
France Is c!catilzln2 her wounds, that France is
studying, that Franco IL working not for war but
Tor peace-IUr the worlds repose and her own.