New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-01-09
CUSTOM-HOUSE FRAUDS.



g Did s. day bear any considerable 10 proportion to
MT HoweWlli YOU give the names of the men and the
Posil,one tues oScul''u' ~ % me- me- aftrnion
directed That would not like TO undertake It,
LARGE UNLAWFUL GAINS.
q You spoke officers who were receiving large
unlawful gains What class of officers were those A.
presume YOU refer what said about the inspectors;
am unable to indicate what class it is but 1t is the class
officers who make seizures, and who compromise pr
vately the goods seized; presume they make great
deal more than their per dem
O. Yon mentioned Mr. JAYNE. Old he hold one OF those
POSITIONS 4. think said that he had made great
deal OF money since he had been there but did not
mean III reference him. reference 10 some others,
20 accuse them OF illegal action believe the law is so
framed that such officers As he could get large sums by
AdhCrinC the law. and could manage their official
Hcon 10 get larger sums than would naturally
O. DO YOU know what the duties Of that eass OF officers
ErC A Not with sufficient detail TO give any niorua-
lion thar VIII be Of any ane 10 the Comnll,ee ,,,,
you had In your mind who the recipients of these
unlawful gains A. l spoke only Of class; did not
SPEAK any individual nor did have any individual IN
O Did YOU or not intend TO include the officers of the
rlass winch Nh Jayne belongs IN the class OF winch
you have spoken have (nst Ia ~ 9cod
and compromise with the persons who own te Eoo t
The ease coming before the Court at al; am nor ,pe
Mr. Jayne that class not not being familiar WIN
the distribution OF the Offices in the different sr"ueS anu
o. In what point Of view did you bring In the incident
what the point you intended 10 establish by hat'
A. That ofcers in the Cusomhouse legally dSuPtlsss
we're able 20 Cet large OF money aud make aVlSh
rxncn0itGes, and. think, the notes VIII shO" nat
sail 80: should like 10 hear that read. - -, |
Sir EayaIG-Wcrc able To get uuduy large sums OF |
money A. think there no ntimation OF any ie
Csty the matter because mad no evidence I" war
Nh Cassc ry In tie construction Of the low they &c
oured large sums ~ money A. That wac my meaning
explained that supposed the Law IN some cases Won1
permit an accumulation o dIsf SUNS " fer fbe ofifcers
possible. under me !d" as 1t ITO" ~ ,noney 700
undoubtedly legally, 70 make large sums OF % sv
isre or ne ,ervcr hut you refer to the once tat
Inspector JAY holds 40 not know III de's "h"' lie
" ,I V"9 Introduced The incident Of Mt james
coarbutiou 10 the 'o9sezine not to NOV NM ne ,n9
Tived unaH iui 2sus hut that ne derive" soa' gains
Nr PT@.f-Do vou know the number Of officers and
cn1,ayc, In ;te Custom-house 4. do not ..s,-
q Bve rough fguunr up Of the classes, as 'tatc9 In
MS report IA, Register OF the Treasury II seems thai
c,r,es y.or. i9aoc 10y Mr Murphy during bis admins
radon g. ] am wholly unable to say.
rHL MOST TRIED OFFICES.
O. Leaving out ~ question the leading officers the
Coif,,r SurYl,r and Naval officer what positions in
ne futoI cuSc most sought after and are deemed
~, greatest prizes A. would nor Ike to answer hat;
that found people struggling particularly 10 get
any Office IN the CustOml"u. scat the Time Wheh we were
supposed have influence in obtaining those Offices
We mad an abundance o petitions 10 obtain for the apph
any office could bnt by me rule We adopted 70
make DO applications We were relieved Of that aud
could hot say 1t l~ now
q GLASS Of officers 10 the Cu'tom-hOuse service
o'cuI SucD position tht mere is motive fcI olung
th.mf A. ! should not be able 70 state the class
y. but ] should lhc people VINO Hbb 10 uth 1
with - passage of personal baTeage those who grant
TerIlit- ard tios" ~bo make seizures
sud appraisers A. some Que more familiar with the
details o. The Custombluse might give you better IN
sir issery-Uow long has THIS TRIBUNE bcendn ex-
istenc.l 4. n IS over thirty years Old. ,-,.
u How ttorlvEn arrangements for Information |
throughout mis- regard, for instance, To the
operations ~ parties IN politics throughout the counties
srd districts TO view OF state Conyentionsi A It's editor
has personal friends m every county, and, sup
pos evtry township the state and in the receipt
Of adyices vheue, there any extraordinary political
excitement nom an quarers which come by letter come
him hrt The ofcc. III addition 90 that wehaye our
GORE. pondrn's. whom send out, and we derive o
great deal OF Information nom exchanges ana rom
otleI means common to al well regulated offices.
q. l. u oH the strength Of such information aatyou
great numbers OF Custom-house officers employed |
70 rfnDce and control stat Conventions instance
A. Ii +, from hearing of that constantly from all quar-
ter. specially Nherc there rs any political discussion
OF tie situation and me H the prS my 'nT
i i,rt. ie e., n Knows tie iacn.
a. Arr .orr ,ourccs nj information AZ least ascood |
win regard 20 mat class o subjects as hey are WIN ie
-,.i to other important and interesting subjects on
t, D ,, more direct and cose attention to The con-
,fiuu ,f t> he state OF New-HOTk. and 70 al in
o.,o t,a.v other subject except tho acton Of Con
... ,ra, general uhlec q spccisltv OF THE TIuB-
|. ,...'l. a- % not been for great many yeats a.
VI o. y.trc, upon that kind Of 'uforpo;on as much os
.. ao 'r." ttr Information ON "h'h you stare any
..u'. .'.. Of interest OF Importance to the pnOhc |
b.. -'uaocr sand then, that we can rely upon |
. your statements with regard to those
- ...ir ty o. rely upon anything We
.. -! q..,t.>ii A. J think mat vas not state
. n.. rl.,. -'y that hope you VIII give Implicit
,t.,.t..- O., ,v..! thiue you see there
...r ,I,..r rrHovAIs FOR POLITICAL CAUsls.
III, r,,,-J When YOU have spoken OF removals from
l,oa-. service. have yOu given the causes Of
,..,,.l.. .uu learned them from the persons turned
.t and o.. r their reud-f \. In some cases from the
,r. u.ued or. and I'm others from personal friends;
nu; por. mo,e from ne statements which have been
i.. no political discussions and the WrangleS between
% Van .' NOT Thought IL nc ccssary to 60 to the Gus
o,i,sui-. amt learn causes thtrct A. Oh The con
fiy have BOT been there three ti1es uhllI called
1l,n. .v ihc Comm. Tee. within the year .
-. D'd ou i0t suppose !on would De p'iter ape 20
49, .. OH. trHe causes OF removal there than on the
s,r.,tg A. beg SpIU pardon but have not found out
,, ,t4 al % a. tur street, but they were brought
t rae IN the have taken pains 10 give the state
t,. senator ou get good an explanation az can We
,Indc in every case. the other sides n man IL
IN, - ~ ,,,rl ss,cmby do not think the Custom
mouse DO r best place 10 get The i&c. ABOUT ~
h1ve stated jp4t 90 many cases the removals "ee VIII
Sir StcWar-Arc YOU not whore every man who j.
turrd out d. YER, likely 10 come 10 make Complaints y
~, Sir: amt tur best way Z" dehi WIN thei - 10 P
IN al nr the 3Bd crosse Xauuhe tlen nave 40
many nan rua,s the Judgment OF the CUAtohhouse
aui hofific- thst turned theU out
/ lave 'u-t received letter which seems 10 bear on.
,tlr lo fhi, investigation. rOmA NJ Leet, reporter
riuuioyti In me Gig department OF TIT TRIBUNE
Ia, report la tue 'uy Edlior' -, We t.u O TO-,
su NJ, >,ba,, OF SCHULTZ ye}.i 'neortes,
,o.sr. Sebo enthusiastic enough 10 give ne'e,9, essSe"
a. - .r, ia reference 10 the question put 10 you
,.nator Pratt WbeIhcr went 10 the Custom house
90 inquire these casr, ei ne AK Jon qHesIon O
two your labt 60 20 10 such sources Oh laoLnauU
A. ,ou thiuA viii you the actual Facts most Pi"P'S'
a elias, of cases generally would you csnddly
iesu, 4 trlrnri L. The Cu-tOuhouse pr"niAbie pro