The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-05-15

OF terminating the entire controversy, Lora Ciar-
endon To Mr.. Johnson, 18th April, 1902 ano MT.
Johnson's reply, 10th April, 1909
CONCLUSIONS ARRIVED At
from this incident In the history OF the negouar
lions the following conclusions OF fact result
Fust-That MI. Reverdy JOhnson's instructions
ton or settlement Of any other Claims than those
o. nayiduai citizens OF the United States against
SECONDHAND, in suggesting, for the first time,
tne possible existence of public claims behalf OF
his government he acted without authority.
Wnru-Tnat no such public claims as those OF
when the existence was suggested by him had ever
been presented or notified, nor were even then In
Fourth-That the public claims Of which the
possible existence was so suggested were not
ha ~ arising simply out OF the acts OF
cause OF the consequences resulting from pre-.
mature recognition 81 the Confederates during the
war, ana rom the nttlng out OF the Alabama and
other similar vessels in Her Majesty's pOrts and
from their permitted entrance into other ports.''
FWh-That the words Alabama claims, or any
equivalent form of expression, were never made
Of nor was their use proposed to be varied
or extended SO as to comprehend this new class OF
Srth-That the idea Of one sided reference OF
such supposed public claims OF the government OF
the United states only was never for moment ad.
vanced or entertalned on the contrary, the essen
tal condition Of Mr. Johnson,s proposal was that it
public claims whatever which they might
conceive themselves to have against the
FOR for injury to British interests by the
assertion and exercise OF belgereat rights against
probable or possible set Oh 70 any claim on the part
OF the United States, founded upon the denial OF
beligerent status at any given period TO the Con-
federates. rsH
Serenth-That, although offered under these con-
ditions, the proposal was simply and without dis
It was in Mt. SUMMERS speech at the meeting Of
the United States Senate which refused to ratify
the aS n Of ss @ the @
nitude Of those now advanced in the lease" OF the
United States was made known to the world. His
Thornton April 10, 1859, to Lord Clarendon -
xgss .SSssP y
.isa ~ sas sn!eSs sssys
ne: sas
and Ss %siea ssp
s ss s ss
assisted By being get and ammunition irom
England and much By the ussr oP pro-
otherwise would have done, and that we ought therefore,
IMAGINARY Apprr1orAI EXPENSES
imposed upon the United States by the proongatlon of
Mi. Sumner himself did not affect to represent
the latter portion, at all events, OF his suggested
bama" or Of any other particular vessel and Mr..
Thorntons comment upon the whole of it shows
s sets any egea to
fitted out from British ports; either the whole or
any part Of the gen
| the war, or even distinguishing between such
losses Of that kind rs were real and those which
the United States government to adopt Mr. sum
ner's views or to advance claims corresponding to
them. on the 10th June, 1869, Mr.. Motley renewed
| government that existing differences between the
TWO countries should be honorably settled, and
placed on firm and satisfactory basis which
LORD CLARENDON, OF COURSE, REoIPRocATED
that 1.-The Claims Convention had been published
| prematurely, owing to some accident which he
nss pnde, ane Of e one
in m the United States. The time at which it
as the 's late President and his goysrnment
were virtually out of office, ana their
question The convention was further objected to
because 1t embraced only the claims Of individuals,
and had no to those Of the the two
sErTLED NO QUESTION AND LAID DOWN NO PRIN-
These were the chief reasons which had led to its
Ssss asSoass they had not Sse nat At
ntended On the 18th Of September, 1859, Mr. i Fish
tween the two governments within its widest
range, in long and elaborate despatch to Mr. Mot
responsibty Of the Bsh Vsoye fp
Ct least all the depredations committed by
tSs end as me He
with the Senate in disappearing the convention OF
the 14th OF January, 1869 thinking, In addition to
arguments Of the despatch, that 1.-THE provisions OF
the convention were Inadequate to provide repara-
degree to which he considers the United States en-
titled to redress' He added, 1.-THE President is
a nSs. yst DTepa tss when the
Of States FL he dssrneon q
ports OF Great Britain; nor ia he now prepared to
speak OF the PREPARATION which he thinks due by the
1 BRITISH government FOR the larger account Of
| THE VAST NATIONAL INJURIES
1t has inflicted on the United States; nor
he es ssemp to the
beligerency, BY sarerlng the lifting out Of rebel
lions Of war to the 6oniederates, or oiherwise. IN
whatsoever manner. All these are subjects Of
nTe which when the time for
sincere and earnest desire that all differences be-
tween the two nations may be adjusted amicably
and to the future promotion Of concord
between them, to which end he win spare no eff.
rights and interests Of the United states. At the
present stage OF the controversy the sole object OF
President is to state the position and maintain the
attitude OF the United States In the various relations
and aspects OF this grave controversy with Great
Britain 1t is the object Of this paper. which you
are at liberty to show read TO Lord Clarendon ITO
state calmly and dspassionatey, with q more
| unmeasured freedom than might be used In one
addressed directly to the Queens government what
this government seriously considers the injuries 1t
| has suffered. 1t Is
NOT WRITTEN IN THE NATURE OF CLAIM;
for the United States now make no demand aratnst
| Her Majesty's government on account OF the in.
juries they feel they have sustained Lord Caren.
don, understanding this despatch as Intended TO
revive and TO prepare the way for new settlement
OF the claims previously advanced spoke OF 1t In his
answering despatch to Mr.. Thornton, November Q,
1859, as "a despatch from Mr.. Fish on the Alabama
! claimso That 1t was not intended to extend, and
that had not the effect OF extending the signihca-
ton Of that term, as used in the previous corre-
spOndencc, is plain.
/ Ffrst-From the fact that Mr. Fish expressly dis
claimed for his despatch the Office effect Of max
| ing any new claim demand
the question Of reparation for the supposed
national Injuries" in1icted by the British govern
ment on the United States, and
Thtrd--That 1t "declined to measure the relative
effect OF the various alleged causes OF injury"
the suffering the fitting out Of rebel cruisers''
being only one OF three causes enumerated. Lord