The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-01-06

make II.
order and giving you the selection OF general order
stores II Is satd ITO you and the associates with
derstood that was 70 select Hr feet mnnose er n
was 10 cover Mr. Leet up.
Q. That phraseoogy was put In 70 cover Mr..
Leet9 A. Yes, sir; but never had dollar Interest
!. 'as WY $s'!:' ne g,srs, prnss. used, rsrs.y.
ciared with Mr. Leet; the rumor was that they
were.
nc =; You indicated Blxby,s storesH A. ] did;
other store on the east side OF the river-Messrs.
"a, 4 0o:-and there was Mr. Woods store on
the East RIVER; c, -.
when ne was appointed If YOU did not know him
tion came; he SAID al the time thai he did not want
to tell me who it was Mr.. Grinnen was, ] think,
very gooo omcer;
indirectly TO deceive the public? A. No, sir.
anSn aou mo not Sps ne would attempt to cover
o. Why tnen did he saw ..youn when ne meant
s Mr. Lee r a. tyery5ody VINO wanted 70 xnow
WANT to- advertise te tact he Knew tnat II he gave
out that Leet had an interest in II mere would be
hue and cry among the poiticlans I think yon win
the Custom House WIN CHI, though perfectly honest.
had better not De published; Mr.. Leet was at this
not know wnether y WAS illegal Tor Nun 10 draw pay
from the Custom House as well; Mr.. Leet told me
thst NV, was sn nnpr0 s g. ,,,.. ou,o.,
from the public s fact that General Leet was draw
ing pay IRON Tue aiT anu Inc Uussom 1onse 'oof
Q. Does II not seem TO you that you and MI. Grin.
nell were assisting nun 10 cover up that wrong II II
was wr0nx a. lhere was 40 lntention 10 cover IL
up;I helped Mr. Leet out OF friendship.
20 you tmnk IL Inendsnlp 10 AID man TO vio-
late the iawY A. 90 not know that II was VIOLA
u0n OF tne law tnqpgR Mr. tect told me 1t was I'M
RlOPfti AlAfe not now any ldea tnat there was any
fraud III IT, ..--.
O. II there was any fraud do you not think that,
by this paper, Mr. Grlnnell and you are parties to
III A. lam not lawyer ana cannot say Is there
any fraud?
Q. That Is reversing our positions. But was not
there something that the public had right to COM
plain about IN III A. the only purpose IN It was TO
q. Are you sure that the Secretary Of the Trea
sury understood and approved the carriage arrange
ment3 A. Yes, sir; / have a paper mere which
shows 1t. witness here read the Following letter.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT, NOV z, 1859
SIRI am In recent OF your letter of the LIST instant sui
hitting your upon manner Of conducting the public
earring at your port anu n reply thereto have 70 state that
the plan PROPOSED meets tne approyn OF sne ueparmsnt
ou VIII pee " mn M r ybch Wy, % ."n m
and also what changes or notifications Of the existing
III any, are necessary in yo ur opinion in order
to carry out your idea Yours very respectfully, -
. WILLIAM A. RIoHARDe0N, Assistant Secretary
v non MOSES H. ohiNsELL' cohec'or VI Suson'' Ne"
fors. 'sa'' "eAA- O. tss '-ss 81. - 80
o. You have heard Of collusiop between the shin.
pers and the general order peOple-o l what kindp
A. The object ef the man on the shin ia To- net the
goods out as quickly az possible
q. This order and other papers that you have, are
they not part oil the records OF the Custom House
A. Yes sir
O. Why have Won kept theml A. Well, when Won
know that there is combination against you to cut
your throat YOU take every measure TO protect your
self; know that there has been a Combination
against me about this carriage business-hion Ofii-
Gals too.
o. DO YOU know of any official of the limited States
,nterestea in me oeneral Order business now a
nv Ss .e s Sas sn me A.
o. About Warehousemen paylnp Inspectors: what
INSPECTORS do you mean9 A. me inspectors Of the
Warehousemen whose stores they have charge OF:
their ner diem IS paid by the warehonsemen
O. That conoination against you-nave any OF the
persons YOU alluded to been present in tins room
during TINS myestigation? A. Yes. sir: General
Leet has been here and SO has Mr. Haw
O. Has Mr. naw been connected with the Custom
ar INT he has sonans to he WV " NJ
Il. c. Collins sworn:-Am an importer and jobber;
knowiedre OF the general order business: INV goods
always 70 TO the bonded warehouses;; have never
had any difficulty with the governments: l have
never found any embarrassment in doing business
with the Custom House; NV business is Ia sugars
ana teas: the government never carried a mack age
o. Are there any oiiicers VINO accent bribes to
pass goods or baggage OF travellers a. do not
know
William Redmond sworn:-Am an jmporter of
irish linens: nave been in the business iorty wears:
ness. -N = ~ 49,
Q. Is the, general order business carried on In
charge ST so for storage and Carriage az the general
order stores, while AT the bonded warehouses the
only cnarge cesar are sSG carriage ana aoc storage we
stores as much as we can; never gave Custom
House officer dollar in my NE; couple Of men
once presented themselves at my store and asked
TO see my books aud papers, they mad q letter
from the Deputy Collector; this was on
the Sd OF April; they took my papers and kept them
until the beginning OF in ne; there was a dispute
about some duties; wrote 70 the Deputy Collector
about 1t IN June but have never received reply to
IT; parties who my store SAID that am
davits were made that We were importing goods at
grand cost; asked the names OF the parties who
made these aldavts, but they refused to give them
to me- think that this was very great hardship;
understand that the normer gets share OF ali
was the motive for This false andavit.
z. Was not that AFFIDAVIT died before the District
Court; do not know. ...f
Q. How DO you thinK these matters might be re-
Notwithstanding as an experienced and honorable
mercnantf a. THINK that Custom House officers
should exercise some judgment IN these matters
q. Would you suggest any amendment in the law
as at presents A. 1 think it was very hardly exer.
csed in nv case; II O rogue had been concerned It