The New York herald., 1872-10-14

not the case. These revenues have been
euestefea during the wars which succeeded lhe
French Revolution. The state new derives mil
se Be q e Un
sands which the government 10 pleasea TO pay In
ts stead. They are bitterly opposed 70 the princs
hesitate TO retain the property stolen by us
fanatcs."
"but not TO receiving stolen goods"
He confined They may now take away the
se sve vim Up 70 hs be %e
tlon OF the theft commenced Hearly Q hundred
years ago. II win be an act OF gross Injustice; but
for the harm arm they hope 10 do TIE Church can only
ssfhe bishops Of Germany are, then, unanimous in
sustaining the position taken up by the Bishop Of
..Certainly. We cannot allow CathoMc priest to
teach neresy in Catholic church, nor can we &C
cept Bismarck a. Judge OF Catholic doctrine.
This Il point ON which we viii never give ap
"De you suppose Bismarck win 20 so far as to
Demand such measures as the expulsion OF bishops
and priests, as he has driven out the Jesuits, and
the shutting up Of churches fn
lido not think 30. Bismarck is much too clever
TO undertake an open religious persecution though
he may, nevertheless be driven to It in the end.
lie has been so spoiled by fortune that he may
added, smiling, "he has been so highly favored in
sis good luck may attend him. Nevertheless, Cath
Olic bishops and priests have only one way marked
out for thcm-.that is, the path Of duty, and they
"Do you apprehend any serious danger from the
OLD CATHOLIC MOVEMENT 7"
mo. AS yet We see very lew priests engaged In
It, and there Ii title probability that the number
win increase. or these not more than four or Ave
are parish priests, who, with the exception 0f two
In Bavaria, have relinquished their charges The
rest are professors and teachers in the schools and
colleges, or priests without any permanent resi-
"Tnere was, nevertheless, q pretty good attend
ance at tine old Catholic Congress at Coogne,"l
"Yes; but they were principally Protestants and
lay Catholics more or less prominent, perhaps,
Catholic world-Catholics who for years have never
been inside OF Catholic church: Such Q congress-
'DUllinger maintains, believe, that many priests
are secretly engaged In the movement !"
shouS mot act Openly there are many Of 6em
and thus make the movement success. The gov
crnment y ready to assist them ss u does other
their churches by force II necessary, even though
they have to preach to the walls. They must know
are In earnest, and make the movement successf"
"As understand you, then, the Catholic bishops
tend S1s to surrender the right Of excommanicatng
priests they may consider herettcs and that sez-
ing their revenues will not In the least influence
met In the least. This is question on which
the Church can never cede an inch, and the CON
one OF very minor Importance"
GERMAN UNIFICATION.
s'There has been much talk OF the enmity Of the
Catholic Church to the unincation Of Germany. Is
there any truth in itP''
mot = particle. south German Catholics have
opposed 1t as South German PrOtestants have done.
There was no question Of religion in it-a fact
which Ia perfectly clear to the most casual OBJ
German unity, just as the South Germans opposed
It, had they not known they would have the pre- pre-
IN the hss meg Tne
the new German Empire, and has, therefore, no
reason to war with 1t. The same people who make
Germany is rapidly becoming Catholic, forgetting
that this would be reason why the Church should
be favorable to the new German Empire. No, these
assertions are only made as pretext for attacking
the Church, and have not the slightest foundation
In fact"
THE SENTIMENT OF THE LAY CATHOLICS.
1t Is pretty clear that In this conflict the Catho-
lies do not intend to give an inch, and that they
whatever be tie result OF the contest. have had
occasion to test Catholic lay sentiment, and have
found i equally m "a as unyieng as nat Of the clergy
which attended in Berlin, served to convince me
OF this fact. The association, which Is regular
hold its meetings somewhat irregulariy, in a han
back In court. and the proceedings which wit
curious ns Ss as 81 Of
evening place Of resort for all the Catholics of Ber
lin who take an interest IN the affairs Of the
seen there ALMOST any evening 81 the week
pol3iYa and fesISts. d$fsI05s q rst the day. 9Ds
place, tat It difeled In any respect from the many
beer saloons one may see in any part OF the city,
and to tell the truth do not know yet whether It
is a beer saloon or whether 1T belongs TO the as
sOciatlon and has been thus arranged to suit the
convenience OF its members.
The evening attended there were nearly three
hundred people present, either because 1t was a
regular meeting or because some special business
was to be transacted. The place was so cloudy
at at heidelberg were il not for the absence of tile
Ss pSevaied Some we're talking eH eating some
drinking, and all smoking like Turks, ap-
Paen not g ts pst
OF religion and politics l soon learned that they
were transacting some charitable business, Tor the
Secretary was explaining the case Of a poor man
who had been barely able when in health to sup
port his family by the hardest work, rising at four
was now SICK and his family in he drest want.
The secretary went on to explain that he had
always supported his family until now, and this
the first time he had ever applied to the society
for help. After some discussion and remarks from
various invisible people, whose voices came thick
and hoarse through the dense smoke like sea
captains through fog, and grumbling on the part
of others, certain weekly sum was voted for the
poor man until he should be able to resume work.
After this priest got up and made pleasant,
jects, and refreshing himself from time to time with
ushf $ sse
as rather curious to see priest drinking beer and
in place that tp looked suspiciousiy like beer sa
loom but 1t 10 thing German priest can do with
out S;s MS dignity EITHER
He said there was 'every prospect Of the struggle
ending In catastrophe OF some kind, but that
Catholics should do all that within them lay to
avert 1t without sacrificing any principle. That
they could never submit to Bismarck's dictation In
matters Of conscience, and never would; that they
would oppose to his every effort passive but
united and stern resistance, which he would find II
very difiicult to overcome. Bismarck might take
away the revenues OF the Church. Let him. The
Church can get on without them, though the
bishops should have to beg their bread from door
to door. II Bismarck wants to drive out their
bishops and shut up their churches he can do so
at the point OF the bayOnet. But the CathO-
lie population Of Germany is twelve
million souls, and II the government thinks 1t can
undertake the next war without that population
IL will lind itself mistaken. IL will be glad to
turn for support TO the Catholics and glad to grant
them justice.n The discourse was received with
quiet, but earnest marks OF appreciation, after