New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-01-06
CUSTOM-HOUSE. FRAUDS.


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! "TnosE ASSOCIATES"
q. What is meant by that expression aud those
ciaed with ycui A. When that letter given to
me 1t understood by Mr. Grinnel that Mr. Leo had
made arrangement Of his proportion OF the General
| Order business with Mr.. Bixby; he did MT want Mr.
Iects name to appear in the matter in any form, and
consequently he delegated the matter TO me, with drec
ons fiat Il he given Mr. Leet in that form; he made
It. suppose, to cover Mr. l9ot qp he put my name in
there viii say further t@. meyer gsye direction
senator Casserly-YOu say that plraseolOgy AZ to
which Mr.. Pratt has questioned you and associ-
ated with you- put in there to cover Mr. Leet up
Senator Prat-why should the plural, other than the
singular, number be employed there il Mr. Lect was in
the mind n OF Mr. Gr ,Ea, A. Perhaps Mr. Grn9e
there with Mr. Leet don't know that 1t is barely pos
| @ Did you indicate the General Order stores under
this commission A. never made any Indication, the
@ understood you to say that you carried out tho
direction of the letter OF July 49, and that yon indicated
| told Mr. Williams that the goods were to go to Mr.
O Did You not use that very expression in your testi
mOnyin-chef, that indicated Bixbys storesi Did
you not say that he carried out tho instructions Of this
@. And you did indicate Blxbys stores A. Yes, Sir.
| q. How many stores had they A. Two.
@. Where are they A. think they are both In Wash
O. These understand you to saw were the only stores
| you indicatedi A. Those were the only ones that be-
O. Were those the General Order stores on the east side
Of the rverl a. No, Sir; there is store Of Squres
Co.. think at that time theirs was the only other one.
O. These three all the General Order stores there
were on the east side of the river A. That is my i'm
| preston.
O. Were there any upon the west side of the ryeri A.
Yes, Sir; think there was one.
q. Whose store thatl A. Mr.. Wood & Co.'S;
| do MT know his other name.
Senator Cassery-You spoke OF letters from Mr.. Leet
enough to pay bis mess Bills Did rightly understand
youl A. think not, Sir; do MT think the expression
Q What did biz letter, say that subject 4. will
look my letters and be glad 10 INFORM you III
referring TO the General Order business. A.. -.
Senator Bayard-I understand you TO say that tho
estimate Of the packages going to the General Order
warehouses was made by Mr. Grinne and yourself, with
ye s siG OF the Deputy 'OHo''0f' A. All tue
Senator Pratt-As understand the matter goods
be taken from the store bonded warehouse until
all charges due to the warehouse proprietor are paidt
| A. Not without his permission.
@. Does the Treasury regulation upon the subject
prescribe that these charges sa not exceed IN any
@ IN this port state whether the allowable rates for
merce A. am not member Of the Chamber OF Con-
40 I mot k9S S 'h hs e allowable ras
for storage aud labor in this city are A. do not.
| MR.. GRINNELLs CHARACTER ATTACKED
Senator sewart-You say that you not acquainted
with Mr. Grnnell previous TO his appointment A. No.
| Sir only by reputation; had met him perhaps.
O. How did he happen TO call A. That am not able
| to state
q Never had the curiosity TO inquire who suggested
your name to him as confidential adviser A. did ask
At,
Q. Mr. Grinnell was an excellent officer wasn't he
o. You don't think he would knowingly do anything
O. DO you think he would do anything by ndirection to
O. DO You think he would attempt to up any
| thing improper. A. 1 should think not.
q. II that is so, how do account for tins letter
which said Lindsay and meant Leetl A He didn't at,
tempt that there questions asked OF
Mr. Leet about IT, that is from outside; soon as the
question was asked the Information was given rooDt
| Leet A. There was intention OF covering up that
all il given out here at once that Leet
aad I6e ncp and there are thousand and one
anOgg IthDE Won viii find connected with tho New
York Custohose that the world don't see outside that
O. Then this was done for the purpose OF preventing
| the world outside seeing what he did dot A don't
| know about that 1t simply an arrangement made
| by Mr.. Ieet and Mr.. Bixby to carry out MI Leets
don't know that there was any law warranting him to
draw pay from any other source and don't know but
the public, and l substituted my name DGt
MONEY! ece Sassdd T Saf my can show
| you the checks with Mr.. Leets lndOrselnent.
Q. Was there any improperly In Mr.: Leets drawing
money from the CusomhOuse ald receiving his pay as
an army ofcerl A. He told Inc that there was ana IL
| o. You knew your name put in A. did.
| q. Did you make any objections A. Not particle.
| of the warehouses to send the goods to Mr. BLAbys
O. Don't it occur to you now on serious reflection II it
never has before chat there was wr2hg On
the part of Mr. Lee that you ana mr. GGnnen were
| cover II up in what wayl
Ry this etter2 A. No covering NJ ALL 80 far as MT
Grfnne concerned am perfectly willing to say that
was given to me, and did not publish IL to the World;
O. DO you think 1t is acting the part OF friend to help
place him in position where no violates the law A
| don't know that he does, Sir. ,,
O. You have stated he receiving his pay as an
| army offceri A. say that unhesitatingly 49,, a.
O. How was suggested TO to tell that 70 the Com
mittee II you thought It was Mt wrong ana NJ you thnk
ID was mprOper A. did mt think OF ia bearing SAT az
had no dea there any fraud IN H. ana nave nj
O. Suppose there fraudi A. don't propose to go
into this questions want to know II there mas oeeh any
o. You think there was nothing in this of which the
public had right TO complaint A Possibly the puDhc
Would have right to complain because there would be
persons desiring to secure tne same sIIs tna 'I b
had; there oven those IN ponies that Inousu' no
| ought not to have had 1t.
| Mr. BoUTwELLs CONSENT.
Senator HOwe-Did understand you 10 say thst the
Secretary Of Treasury gave his consent to the esao
lshment OF this Carriage Bureau in 1901 A. 50 under
stand.
O. You arc confident OF that facti 4. am confident;
| T ~ ave The papers with which will satisfy you.
Mt Lindsay then produced and reau the Following Ie'
| ter: r,r,srox npp,r Nov 1870
SIR am in receipt Of your letter OF the ist Inst sup
,tjng vnur views upon or conducting the pup
lie caring at your port and In reply thereto nave 70
state that the plan proposed meets the approval Oh INC
ou viii please report the of the penalty in
the bond 10 he executed by Government carmeh Waoh
fons OF existing regulaSus df any are necessary III
your opinion in order to carry cut yO sat Sec
The Hon Moses II. irinnel Collector Oh CUSTOMS
O. mderstand you TO say that by the carriage bureau
the expense or cost of carriage was reduced aDou W per
| cent? A. About 30 per cent. 49,, ., 49, ~
| canization Of the carriage bureau A Inc aEeIdge
would be about 81 cents per package that inc
those facts precisely by calling on the puDhc sOre
keepers, whose books will show. ~. ...,..,o ~ -.
O. Were the charges regulated by inc package or y
the load before the organzatoni A. think they were
| all, tlol ood1 A M