The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-03-14
MIR. MILLER'S DEFENvu.
A RICH EXHIBIT or Rv;DENcE

To- Anchor Lifs) Effort to Get a
Favorable Report-Would He
Bride Millerl-silence on the
Equitable Life Company.
The Subcommittee ON Insurance met again yes
terday at 15e Broadway, Mr.. robey in the chair.
| After waiting over an hour for witnesses
James II. Go,dsell was sworn and said:-I am
publisher Of the Spectator; our firm is J. H. & q.
| M. Goodsell; have been in the insurance business
four and q half years; am well acquainted with In.
surance affairs; know Messrs. Winston and Nc.
| Curdy, of the Mutual Life Witness described the
| character OF bills introduced in the Legislature
| last session restricting the insurance com
| panies and Others calculated to benefit
policy holders; there were forty bills In all intro
duced In the Senate and Assembly; there were
many obnoxious bills introduced, and c0didcaron
OF the life laws called the Amended Life and
Health bill; was employed by the leading insur.
ance companies to represent them at Albany In
urging bills in the interest OF the companies and
their customers the Life bill passed the Senate and
was defeated In the House; it was never considered
in Committee OF the Whole; mad an 10
terview with Mr.. Winston, OF the Mutual
Life, after returning from Albany, where
! had examined bills. In which l said to
him that 1t was necessary. to take legitimate
means to defeat the bills he employed me to re.
present the company, and agreed to send the
amount agreed upon between us to me at Albany,
to the care OF Mr.. Muller; distinctly stated to him
thar you iller) knew nothing Of my efforts IN the
matter; 1t was SO considered between us that you
knew nothing OF IT, and so assured Mr.. Winston;
! received the proceeds OF the check from you at
said You had received letter from Mr.. winston
that you did no! understand; explained the matter.
sent back you finally endorsed the check
gave me the money (sa,5oo) omit; / never paid you
one dollar for any purpose; witness testified as to
@ o Inc s an
TO use money with Miller to influence favorable
certificate; on the contrary Fisher asked him II ne
bile report; witness warned Fisher against using
money for such purpose and never received
ing inc superintendent for the purpose Of
to met with the general approval Of the life nsur-
ance people; the Lie Tor Miller bill, as 1t passed
amended, after beng reported favorably by the
committee, and after many of the insurance officers
had asked It that no receiver shall be appointed,
except with the knowledge OF the superior rendered
In writing; the clause relative to the approval OF
snce COMPANIES; TINS clause met With great rolitica
opposition, as It affected the recelvers Mr.. Miller
s9ld me he objected to the Appointment mn Of William
Life told me that Elihu wright's regular Charge
meyer heard Of you aiding IN the passage of
legislation except In public way; There was great
any essatos Know Ve Of no ocer Of fv COMPANY
WAC has complained Of your extortion; the views Of
the insurance officers as expressed TO me generally,
uphold your policy anu very generally approve
your official record your course In winding up COM
panies has been very generally approved by insur-
70 Mr.. Tobey-I left this city before the investga-
came back on the Saturday before the 22d OF Feb.
ruary; have been IN this building twice since.
9: Will You give the names Of the companies you
A. prefer not giving the names of the compa.
Q. Do you swear that all the money paid to you
was for yourself personality A: the money was
used for my own expenses ana services; decline
upon Winston 1t was arranged that the check for
800 should be sent to the care OF Mr.. Mlller;I
bill, but Miller codned It, believe; the bill was In.
committee 10 aivocate the bin; NJ Miller aopea red
before the committee also, but not on the same oc
q. Was the sum Of $50, 900 paid TO you to secure
the passage Of the billf A. decline to answer.
parties than MiilerS A. decline 10 answer the
whole question, but some was; not cent OF 1t was
any st as as 20 M NJ w
but as relates to others and my private affairs de-
TO Mr.. Barnes-I was employed and paid money
to represent insurance companies but beyond the
matter relating to Mr.. Miller decline to say from
what companies; the money received from the
Mutual Lie was for my compensation during the
session; so 1t was understood
Life A. AS said before, decline to answer;
the Anchor Lie employed ME 10 represent them
at Albany, pit decline to answer how mucn was
cate Of examination was furnished by Miller; told
Mr.. Fisher that had no Influence TO get cern1.
cate, and warned him against attempting to use
undue influence with the superintendent; dis.
tincty state that have never received q cent Of
money TO influence examinations
To Mr.. Tooey-l have not solicited money from
George I. Hope or otner persons to influence this
To Mr.. MllIer-We had to encounter the opposi.
ton Of the Tammany Judges In the Life bill.
Judge Davies. recalled, said:-I nave been Chief
Justice OF the Court or Appeals and am nOw coun-
sci OF the Mutual Life; 1 have acted as commits
sloner to examine companies being organized, and
received for such service from $50 to 500 from
eacn company; would not consider 500 an extor.
tona Zee Tor each commissioner; am well ac-
quainted with the officers OF the Lie companies
aud nave never heard any complaint Of exoroitant
charges.
lar testimony as 10 tie fees paid to HIM as cum
Tor examination OF companies, winch
were usually from 500 70 500 from each The report
Fund Lie Company-lne only one that complains
Of extorilonate chdrges-was shown witness, VINO
considered the report first class, and he had paid
$500 for one-quarter OF the WORK; lie thought $500
was very reasonable amount Tor the report, for
o. @. Carter, an expert aud Henry D. Walker, of
the American Mutual Lie Of New Haven, were ex.
amined as to the comparative fees charged by
Barnes and Miller. Mr.. Walker testified that the
company was examined by Barnes personally in
one nour and hall, and $1,12l 9s was charged
put $3.50 only was paid; the company was subse-
quently excluded from the State by MIN without
notice. On cross examination by Mr.. Barnes wit
ness admitted that The examination CONNIE nced In
1852.
:, The committee then adjourned, TO meet again on
at half-past ten A. NJ.
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