The New York herald., 1872-12-31
THE MEXICAN MINISTER.
Mr.. MariscaI on the Rio
Crande Outrages.
WHAT HE THINKS OF ANNEXATION
The Acquisition of Our Sister
Republic Impossible.

received He looks about forty-fve. In form he
is slender and OF medium height. Ills hair Is
dark brown and rounded in at the ends after the
Spanish fashion He wears mustache and
imperial. the color OF which closely corresponds
with that OF his hair His face is more square than
oval and with his high cheekbones, reminds one
OF the Indian cast OF countenance. His nose Is
not prominent and his eyes small, but
usually brilliant. The tout ensemble Is, however,
pleasing, for the expression OF his face s cheerful
mild and kindly. In manner he is very polite,
without f0rmality and ostentation. In converse
ton he Is frank sympathetic and COM
municative, and makes one feel perfectly
at home with him. He has keen per-
ception or humor for the faintest approach
to Joke will provoke him to bursts Of laughter
Mr.. Marscal speaks English with ease and correct
ness, having resided in this country for several
years as Mexican Minister at Washington. He was
Secretary OF State until short time before Prcsi
dent Juarezs death and was reappointed by the
latter to his present mission.
SO much for his personal appearance; now for
the conversation, which was as foows:-
CoRREsroNDENr-What do you think, Mr.. Maris-
cal, about the state OF affairs on the Rio GrandeY
Mr.. MARIscAL--I think there has been marked
improvement since the end OF our revolution, which
chiefly the cause OF the disorders on the Texan
border. While the war lasted our government,
though animated with the best Of intentions, had
enough to do to fight the revoutlonsts. But since
the accession Of President Lerdo violence has been
reprcssed and the dcprcdations OF which the Tex
ans complain have very much diminished, II not
wholly ceased. The fact is, there are
TWO SIDES TO THE STORY.
II Mexican outlaws have committed depreda-
tiOns i'll Texas II is equally true that Texan out
laws have committed depredations in Mexico. We
hay cla aipo fnr IN uria mn rts1
as well as you have against us. The truth Is that
the frontiers both sides OF the Rio Grande in
habited by the worst outlaws Of both countries, rs
frontiers generally are, because OF the facility for
escape and for the evasion of the laws.
CoRREspoNDENT--But the Texans, presume,
can rightfully claim q larger amount OF damages
than the Mexicans
Mr.. MARIsCAL-That remains 10 be seen. Our
government Is willing to settle all Just and fair
claims. 1t has appointed commission to investi-
gate the American as well as the Mexican claims
for depredations on both sides OF the Rio Grande.
The commission Is now taking testimony at
Matamoros. Mr.. Emilio valesco is the chairman
OF the commission ana his appointme mt is proof
OF the impartiaNity o. the Mexican government.
Mr.. vaiesco has been counsel to the American
Legation at the city OF Mexico and enjoys the
confidence OF your Minister, Mr.. Nelson.
CORRESPONDENT understand the Texans claim
over twenty seven millions FOR the raids upon their
ranches and cattle by the Mexican outlaws during
the late rev0iution2
Mr.. MARIscAL-rhat is q huge joke. have seen
an article In one OF the American papers giving
list OF all the property IN the section where these
depredations by Mexicans are said to have been
committed From this list 1t appears that the total
value OF the existing property in that part OF the
country never was near as large as the sum you
CORRESPONDENTS II true, Mr.. Mariscal, that
the Mexican Commission sitting in Washington,
which will expire on February ne xt, is
TO BE RENEWED BY BOTH GoyERNMENTs2
Mr.. MARIscAL-A convention has already been
framed for the prolon9ation OF the Commission.
have sent II to my government Tor approval Jt iS
TO be submitted to the Mexican Congress, which
will probably sanction it within few days il it Is
be concluded between the two governments before
the expiration Of the Commission.
CORREsPONDEAT-What has the Mexican Claims
Commission already Accomplishment
Mr.. MARIscAL-iou VIII see by this list
Ciafms. Presented. Decided Pending.
American ..'.. loi7 2eo 757
McXlcau. u......,,.',...., Sos oV3 b3l
Totals 1871 563 LAOS
The amount Of the American claims. believe, Is
about four hundred millions. This includes, how
ever, one claim for 1923 900 by certain Mr..
W0odhouse, which has been
THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE COMMISSION.
We claim about nfty millions for depredations by
United States. When the labors OF the Commission
are concluded 1t viii, perhaps, be found tnat the
CoRREsPoNDENT-W0uld not the annexa alton OF
Mexico to the United States be the best settlement
Mr.. MARIscAL Qaughingly)-I think not Even
admitting the probability OF such an eyent-and
AN ELEPHANT ON THE HANDS OF THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT.
The MexicanS differ too widely In language, in
customs and habits OF thonght nom the American
people to agree with them under one government.
wSeS has 90 macS Ks sOS
be governed by foreignersi
CoRREsPoNDENr-The strongest argument for
annexation is precisely the reason you give against
1t, sir-that Mexico cannot govern ITSELF
Mr.. MARIsCAI~-But Mexico has now taken the
there is any one sentiment In which the whole
Mexican people unite It Is the strong aversion to
French expedition. MaxImilian had the wealthicst
and most powerful party-the Church party-On his
side, and yet he failed niseraby. Annexation has
been the
SERMON PREACHED nv THE HERALD
all along, and IL has inflicted much injury on Next
can credit by its advocacy American intervention
The HERALD, being the only great American paper
read abroad, its widely circulated reports have
Try. But now that the HERALD sees that I'll Mexico
is bent OH peace and progress. hope it Will change
Its tone with regard @ 70 our people, VINO desire
the Americans. The Mexicans, with the exception
OF few ignorant, deluded persons, have much
sympathy and respect for this country. We have
copied your form OF government, your constitution
and in what we did not initiate you--viz., in the
regret that we were mistaken. We are about to
adopt your system in that also by the creation Of
q senate. We want
THE COMMERCIAL ANNEXATION OF MEXICO
by the Anne rican people, not the political one. We
invite your enterprise, your capital; we want you
to build railroads and make the two countries one
In commercial INTEREST," and 1t will be great bene-
nt to both countries II all points oftrraion are In
future avoided.
FEARFUL ACCIDENT IN PATERSON.
Ex-Asscmblyman Hemmingway Thrown
from HIS Sleigh ana Fatally Wounded
bv n Train Of CarS.