The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-04-03

ne on,y sot apous 1000; am inclined to think
from recent information that Mr.. Hill did not gvo
HAVE you received that information since you
came to washington a. Yes. sir.
ny Mr. MERRIAA-from whom did you receive
TINS information since you have oeen heref a. J
with nim relieved the impression that he had no,
ceived any money from him; taat was since nave
been here this time; after MI hill came ! was ~
mind; Went or TO the Springs IN Alabama 10 get
away from Memphis, and ,red to bud myself up;
the bank, great deal OF power and authority, and
,n, nun, that ! had used the funds o. the
came out Of the " bank n psaper. without
any money at all; l found myself perplexed right
and left, and dd not know what to do, and
money by Hill; he wrote me several letters for
money and said he wanted TO set up his son IN busl-
ness; told MIN, "You imagine that am worth a
good deal OF money, but you are mistaken; these
p0lllicians and lawyers. and you among the resi-.
eave a1 zen al The money nave but Mr. h
TO do, inilmatng that he had great power and
authority, and lnat the Comptroller would BACK him
money.
ANOTHER HARRY swoops DOWN.
h Rd h you pay nun Money! nome X Yes s mas sup
after he became receiver; met hlm here al one
tlme, when he mad not decent suit Of
SUIT OF clothes; l believed at the time that the
Comptroller mad forced Hill upon me; did not un.
or hoWensie,n Chief clerk q the Treasury
Department. was sent TO Memphis for the Cur
rency Department rs special agent to examine
this hank; this was prior 10 the appointment oil the
receiver; there were about twOweeks between the
time OF his examination and that OF tho receiver;
Hill, he commenced his operations OF demanding
aoou. g. 1907 he said part Of 1t was ior govern.
by Mr.. MERRIAM-W6at reason did he give for de-.
reaso a A. had % %e he
was vested with That sort of power ana authority
tna. unless money was paid NM ne would give n me
out nave five letters Of MIS- written by himself,
still furtner demanding money.
WHERE HowENsTEIN IS.
Q, DO you know where Mr.. Howenstein Is now 7
A. lie Is q cashier In bank In st. Louis, recently
oranlzed.
Q. is II National Bankf A. Think so.
Q. DO you make any connection between Mr.
Mowonstein and the Comptroleti A. No, sir; |
state thai Mr.. Hulburd had anything TO do with
Hill. pecause do not know IL.
Z. You say you nave PAID money 10 HIP A. Yes
Q. Was that one OF the reasons he gave YOU for
demanding II, that he was to DIVIDE with Mr..
HaibarA2 a, He told me ne wanted TO divide MS
Q. what other reason did he give You when get.
ting money from your A. lie would write
ME letters and would insnuatc things In Them as TO
what he would do.
FEARS CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
@. Why did you paw III A. Simply because l
was in trouble, and he arrogated authority and
power TO give me more trouble and he meant TO
cause the COMPTROLLER to take some criminal pro-
BY Mr. MoNRoE-Do understand you that he
stated that Mr.. Hulburd was to share with nimS A,
He dl1 as TO bis salary as receiver; he 80 stated
moro than once
by Mr.. WALDRoN-wer you debtor to the bank
when Hin was rccclvers A. Yes. sir:
Q. Were not these payments made on that &C
couats A. No, sir; they were personal matters
by Mr.. oox-How much had you owed the bank ?
Q. We're any OF these sums put. down to your
credit A. No. SIR; OF course lot; was Indebted
No s os o Gs
ioy now; did II very foolishy.
q. Is there anything else IN THIS connection that
'h BY Mr. ms assas So Mr. Hill was appointed
Toep ro ora a. g N NIT
had conversation in reference to the matter, and
he Mr. H as being good man s 70 take
In very bad condition cersalnly; required man
we wo@ NOT hav s got the
mixed up; to tell the truth, don't think was COM
petent to take charge OF the AFFAIRS Of national
o. Did you pay any ofncer Of tho government
money for furnishing that cashier to y0u2 A.. No,
s paid $500 to Secure CASHIER simply state
that never made such atidavit; / say that in JUS
tce to the Comptroller; there was no money paid
Statements, either under catn OF any other way.
BY Mr. Cox-Did you ever give pay, money or
otherwise, In consideration OF securing cashier :
A. No, SIR never paid any money " all 70 Mr.. Aul-
~" IS HE NOT HONESTY HONEST. MY LoRDs
BY MIR. MERRIAM-Have you ever made any pur.
chase that you nave made HIM present Cf, and II
so, to what amounts A. don't think; rather
not answer these quesu0ns; these are personal
BY Mr.. cox-Tney are the most important matters
myself s rsns before the public nave not only SUI
tered losses IN reputation, but have desired to put
3. You os do not answer my question. 1t must be-
answered justice TO the committee and especially
TO Mr. Hulourd. Since this matter mas gone 50 lar
you must state the whole truth III relation TO him.
A. What question have you put 10 me2
THE CARRIAGE AND HARNESS.
O. The question OF MIR. Merriam should be an
swered. A. gave Mr.. HulDurd q carriage IN
BY Mr.. MERRIAM What else A. A harness
q. ANYTHING mores A. No. sir; gave no property
Q. what was the cost OF this carriage and nar.
ness A. Some six or seven hundred dollars;
o. DO YOU remember the date A. 1t was about
the time Mr.. AN was appointed cashier think.
1t was after neither had IL any connection with the
appointment OF Mr. Hill as cashier. ;.
q state all the circumstances TO the committee.
A. IL happened about tnat time.
BY MT. COx-What was the consideration that
prompted you 70 do III A. There was no considera-
ZION ~ all uOut Wdub lcdNC dilJ WIOuS lmp'C Go
sion IN regard TO Mr.. Huburd
BY ar. MERKIAM-State wnen and why you bon yht
the carriage and harness2 A. gave II TO him here
IN this city; / bought 1t on pennsylvania avenue,
somewhere or other.
BECAUSE-HE SAW FIT.
O. Did you do 1t at his solicitations A. Well, sir,
we talked the matter over; / don't remenn Ger
whether It was directly; gave It to him because
saw tit 10 do 1t.
Mr.. HULBURD-I wish MIR. Rutter would answer
every question promptly.
by Mr. MERRiAM-We want all the circumstances
when and where and why l. 0ccurredY A. Mr.. HUI
burd wrote to me 10 come on to Washington to cor.
rect certain irregularities III tine Tennessee National
Bank; came on III accordance with that letter. IN
response to that letter, anu this presentation oc
Cured At that time; Mr. HulDurd called at Wizards
Hotel TO see me Ill my room; we just simply walked
down Pennsylvania avenue, l think 10 Young a
Brothers, ana bought the carriage aud gave 1t u
him.
O. What was the nrmf A. think IL was Young
h Brothers.
BY Mr. SMlTH.-was anything said about the car.
riage before leaving the hoteif A. don't tainK
there was.
q. How happened you to go directly from the
hotel to the carriage shop and make the purchase
A. dont know now II was exactly; did not know
where The carriage shop was at all, but we were
rOlnQ Dv and the carriage.