The Emporia news. [volume] (Emporia, Kan.) 1859-1881, 1872-08-09

; Seymour, were substantially til
. same as the statements made t
other persons, which we print
Carmichael informed him that b
had received the daily Tribun
since April, free of charge. Car
michael said to him that when h
went to Peckham and Cassidy, a
Albany, with his scheme, the
called him a fool, and told him t,
go home and stay there.
ID. p. Loomis, Esq, George Eel
lows, Charles j. White and DR.
Halsey, all know something of tn,
Carmichael Greeley-Seymour cor
respondence, but it is merely cor
roborative.
COMPENSATORY STATEMENTS.
There is good authority for stat
ing that Carmichael went to Mr.
Follett, banker, in Otsego, last
September, and impaired informa
ton of his plans to nominate
Greeley for the Presidency. Mr.
Follett told him he thought some.
thing might be accomplished in
that way, and so far assisted Car
michael as to purchase his wool
crop for this year, and advanced
him the money-which Carmichael
wanted-to go to New York and
Utica to confer with Greeley and
Seymour. Carmichael visited Mr..
Follett frequently later in the fall
to confer with him, and always had
letters from Mr.. Greeley and Sey-
mour in his pockets. One or
more of the letters from Mr.. Gree
ley were shown as early as Oc-
tober.
One of the methods by which
Greeley and Seymour communi-
Gated through Carmichael was by
making him, or his making him
self, a sort of distributing post
office. Letters received by Car
michael from Greeley were inclos-
ed with his letters and sent to
Seymour, and those from Seymour
were in like manner sent to Gree
ley. In the course of time the let
tiers were again sent to Carmichael
as they had been sent from him
with other correspondence.
VIM. T. Finch, Esq, has had
the special privilege of ''translat-
ing difficult letters for Carmich-
ael. He can tell good deal when
he is authoritatively summoned.
The first interview with Greeley
took place in the Tribune office.
Carmichael, without formally an
nouncing himself, stepped in and
inquired for Mr.. Greeley, and was
told that he was not in. Being
determined to have an interview,
he stood around awhile and peep
ed into a door, where his reason
led him to believe Mr.. Greeley
was, and finally caught sight of
him. He then stepped into Mr..
Greeley's room, introduced him.
self, and was cordially welcomed.
The interview lasted between four
and five hours.
DECISIVE AFFIDAvITS.
We present 3elow two affidavits
of gentlemen whose very import
ant knowledge of the letters, etc,
seemed to justify, and in the pub
lie interests to demand formal YER
flied statements. Chas. S. Car
penter is a young man of unusual
ability and probity; was reared in
Unadilla, is respected by all who
know him; and he is widely
known. AS editor of the Oneonta
Herald, one of the best and most
trustworthy journals in the State,
he is highly esteemed. With his
own readers, no certification could
be stronger than his own word. A
part of his information was of an
earlier stage of the conspiracy
than that of other witnesses; it
did not include the Seymour
branch of the conspiracy. The
position of Mr. Greeley concern
ing the rebel soldiers he stated
some time ago in his journal. AS
a part of the great scheme which
has now developed, the facts of
Mr.. Carpenters affidavit are of
studendous interest.
DR.. Ireland, who makes the
other affidavit, is a citizen of high
character, enjoys the esteem of
everybody, and the ciearness and
very essential Importance of his
affidavit contributes much to the
completeness of the case. He,
with Mr.. Carpenter, was averse to
personal prominence in the matter,
but sense of duty admitted of
no other course than that they
have pursued. They are entitled
to the grateful regard of all fair
minded men,
A6iddr,t Of Mr. Carpenter.
ONEoNTA, July II, 1872.
G. S. Carpenter, being duly sworn, de-
poses and says that he is q resident OF
Oneonta, Otsego county, in the State OF
New York, and that he is well acquainted
with Lewis Carmichael, of Unadilla, in
said county. That Carmichael has for
many years been q Democrat, interested
In county, State and national conventions,
which he frequently attended; and that
he has for about a year past been engaged
in seeking Democratic candidate for the
Presidency. That Carmichael was last
fall in correspondence with Horace Gree
ley and Horatie Seymour, on the question
of making new issues; one OF which was
the payment Of pensions to disabled rebel
soldiers, as well as 70 u MON soldiers; and
that deponant saw letters from said Gree.
ley and from Seymour on that question.
That one Of Greeley's letters which de-
ponent recognized by what he knows OF
Greeley's handwriting, and by the Trt-
bune heading (this letter being an an
swer to letter OF Carmichael, asking his
views on the ConIedrate pension question },
expressed the views Of MIR. Greeley rs
favorable to the passage OF law proYid-
ing that the General Government pay
pensions to Southern disabled soldiers;
although he (Greeley) doubted whether
Congress would pass such a bill. Thai
deponent read the letter carefully, anc
this was its true expression and meaning;
and it was freely discussed between Car
michael and deponent. That this letter
wi as, according to deponents best recol-
| lection. dated in August or early in Sep
| TENDER, 1911. Deponent saw q letter from
Horatio Seymour on the same subject, 3!
about the same time. Mr.. Seymour ex'
pressed himself in opposition TO making
the pension an issue then. That depon-
| ent also saw another letter of Horace
Greeley, addressed to Carmichael, il
| which Greeley invited Carmichael to cal
on him in New York, to talk over politics
| issues that had been preached between
them; and separate part OF that letter
which Opponent did NOT have an oppoF,
tunity OF reading carefully, expressed, 81
| deponent casually noticed, and was dis
/ tinetly informed by Carmichael the pos
| sibilify that Greeley would accept ths
nomination for President, II the nomIna
| ton was rendered TO him in 1872 Tha
| Carmichael was absent from Otsesso short
| " afterward, 6nd received from Greeley
as Carmichael distinctly and emphatical
/ ly stated to him, Greeley's positive con
sent to be the Democratic candidate 10
President in 1872, IL the nomination Wers
given him. The date Of this letter was Ii
| October, 1871. That Carmichael endeav
ored 20 induce deponent TO consent Il
advocate paying pensions to So1therE
/ soldiers, as . measure of Cancellation be
tween North and South, and to supper
was fully understood between depOnen
and Carmichael that Greeley was TO b
/ pressed for Democratic nomination. Tha
/ deDenant regarded Carmichael az q can