The Hawaiian gazette., 1872-06-26

consequence Of the workings % this Constitutions.
| 70 agrce noi % * caught The question Cor the
House 70 consider IS THIS, Il this Article 81 the
CONSTITUTIONS good ct BAD ior gsy l am inv o.
Acknowledge What nF Iicbcr has said In regard 70
tWo Houses being ectler than one-apd Is Is ~ ~
large countries, bat this Il not a lalgc eonniy !
have SEGA larser countries than this believe the
City Of New York Is larger Mt, nisraen did not
lern Il cxt,cdsut, In his sprcch quoted, 10 abolish
the House ct Lords; Dor Is the question herr o.
abolish The House 81 Nohlcs The proposition a.
whether the Mobiles aud Representatives shall 81 IN
eenpnction not and that Is The question for this
House 10 decide As far - | am concerned. 70
would be much less laborious Il the Houses sat sep
aratcly. We have been Ia session now some forty
avs DAYS 10 the hoaSe, aud Il the Mobiles bad
ocrn sitting Ny themselves, they could haYo goi
through With al they had 10 90 With this Session
up TO this time. In two DAYS The House OF Noeirs
OF cid bad but very htile 70 do One would couac
into the House perhaps villa cigar IN bis mouth
and hat on the back 81 his head aud ask Il there
was anything NJ RON tbs LoNer House ard Il not
be wORid leave. kut under the prescnt Constitution
We 81, together, and meet and discuss matters face
u iaee and can not see where anything Is loss by
that some remarks have fallen from Member of
this House, that under cur Constitution this Assem-
bly, has dgterio,ated ] DO not think that this
IS true IN point % aeI as l have seen men
working most asSiduousy dsy amer day To reduce
the expenses Of this Government. l am about -
make some personal remarks, which trus, will not
be misunderstood I have been 90 this door irum
time to time for the past twenty years, and have
heard al times the voices OF kSumaca kauWahL
kaauwai. (fAlaer aud sDu,l aud J. W + Maikai. all
these men have not passed over The dark river BY
reason Of the SuhvcrSiOn Of the cid Constitution.
There Is the gentleman the extreme risht-thc
Honorable Member from Hilu-hc sat here irom tho
year lS2, in many Legislatures before the promul-
ation ~ this Constitution, and alter and he Is
less Intelligent tsy than before this Constitution
was enforced The sane can be said ct thr u NOR
able Members from Hsus. Wailuka. Eva, uamskua
and MakawaO, Now. a. have said bciorv. will The
business Of the country oe any better performed i
the Mobiles separated fr'm the representative
think experience shows that Il will NO, Bur W
must consider the condition ei our eountry We
have no parties hcrc. have heard something about
tbrm but have never seen them hops have net
ultSiuJrrlrvtcd suyoue's remarks sud q uaVc. this
viii afford an opportunity for explanation.
Mr.. hasNaha vaS opposed 10 the amendment he
thought the Assembly well eaough as j, was and
nei in favor Of change. a. be was not acqasiatci
With the working Of the Legislature under the old
Constitution.
Hou. n, KalaSaaa said The proposed amendment
Of the 18th Article Of the Consultation Is measure
which believe Will hinder. extent the wosk
Of the Legislature. Ny own legislative experience u
that would ealy &c iaeursiug much east. tune and
labor. The voice Of the Makaainaaas vas lost IN
The House Of Mobiles Ia lorusr DAYS and the actions
Of the iluSJrious Mobiles Of those DAYS was uust
creditable. To amend thi Article will cali Tor the
amerdmcut 81 the 16th Articic. To- ii this amend
meat be passed in the next Session. no laws can bc
properly enacted. for is specified by Law that the
heads u all Bills shall read thus Re it enacted by
the King aud the Legislative Assembly ct the ia
Waian Islands. in the Legislators 81 the Kingdom
assembled This amendment asks for the sep
aratioa Of The two Houses and ia So doing the mover
ought 90 propose amendment of the T6th Artistic.
because, If the Houses separated. what mode of
proceeding Wouid there be for the cnscting Of Aus1
OF course would, and ought naturally 70 ~ back
70 the old state of things. bat hers have 10 cal
for il. And pretty littc woali 6ni our
selves in. il the year 1916 II this amendment is
ried in the year 1874. We will have 20 wait again
i; vii take two wears for the amendment u the
10Th Article, and the consequences Of such delay
can be better imagined than described.
Mr.. kaiae spoke in favor Of the amendment as the
Representatives Of the people. in his opiniou. had
not iaiT show. He showed how. under the present
system Of House, The majority Il the Represent
aiives We-e etectualy outvoted every question for
the peoples benefit by the minority voting in
Junction with the Mobiles.
Mr.. Kaai spoke against the amendment. as be
could not any disadvantages the Representative
subject 90 BY sitting in conjunction With the
MOBILES and the Ministry. lie was in favor q a free
Expression of opinion from botl bodies sitting To-
eScther-
Mr.. Nikslemi spoke in favor Of the Amendments,
ard argued that more whalers were destroyed. and
whaling enterprises abandoned since the Constitution
Of 1854. than in the days Of the Co sttuton ls52
Mr.. Aholo was in favor Of the Mobiles and Repre-
sentstivcs sitting together, all difficulties sud dis
putes were more readily disposed Of. and business
much facilitated.
Mr.. Loa,lea vas strongly in favor Of the amend
ment.
Messrs. Naw1hi, Hanaike, Paikuh aud Poll spoke
ia favor of the amendment, and Messrs- Naihc, ko-
mCikehuehu and h1iemanu against it.
Motion to pass the Resolution put 10 vote and lost.
b. 81 noes 20 Is ayes