Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1872-04-04
TIE FRINGE ARv.S INvESTIGA.
TON.


The special Senate committee investigating
the alleged sale Of arms 10 France by the gov
erbmentof the United States during the Fran
co-Prussan war, met again this morning.
MI. G. X. Garrison concluded his testimony
commenced yesterday, but no new facts were
elected.
MONSIEUR roxsoN COME AGArx
The Marquis de Chamsrun voluntarily APP
peared before the committee and m AIDE a state
ment explanatory Of his testimony on some
points given the other day. He believed he was
mistaken in saying that Mr.. Garrison was one
of VIM. NJ. Tweed's hOndsmen; he saw the state
meht in the New York papers. He was also
wrong in saying that Mr.. Garrison accompanied
Gen. ingalls, to the French minister. He has
since learned that the person accompanying
Gen.I was a Mr.. Patterson.
GEN. INGALLS, CONT RADiCTs CHANBRUN.
Gen. Rnfus Ingalls,. who was sworn yesterday,
testified that he visited NJ. Treilhsrj, the
French minister, in behalf of Mr.. Garrison in
company with AIR. Carlisle Patterson. SIR
TreilhaId refused to interfere, and he so tele-
graphed Mr.. Garrison; he saw the French min
'ster as friendly act towards Mr.. Garrison.
witness desired to pronounce
FALSE IN EVERY PARTICULAR
The statement OF the Marquis de Chambrun in
regard TO his (witDess') agency in the ARM
business; he also desired to DENY, unqualifiedly.
Chambruns statement that he (witness) had
boasted OF his influence with the government
and also that he was connected with the firm OF
Remington x Sons; he told N. Treilard, when
he saw him in MIR. Garrison's behalf, that he
(wttness) had no personal interest in the matter
but called because he was friend of Mr.. Gar
rison.
Mr.. Hamiin.-'.General Ingalls,, do Won know
OF any army or government ofti Ger who has par
uciratcd in any manner in the sales or arms. OF
who has profited a single cent by such sales?''
Witness-'No, sir; and Furthermore. 1 don't
believe that any government officer has been
pecunafily Interested"
By Mr.. Sehurz:-witness didn't remember
seeing General Dyer in New York in December.
1870; didn't RENE mber having any conversation
with him i'm Washington about the sale of arms:
knew Mr.. Sam Remington, also Mr. Squires
knew the latter but slightly; never conversed
with him in regard to the sale of arms; witness
held % 600 in stock OF RemingtOns arms manu-
factory before the Franco Prussian war; don't
rene ber when he disposed OF II; did not buy
his stock from the Remingtons, butfrom another
party cont know OF any other army officer
holdings Remington stock; witness thought he
sold bis 5000 stock for $1,000; ne YER received
any profit or dividend on his stock; don't know
Thomas Richards on, and knew nothing of his
purchasing arms for the French government:
Garrison SPOKE TO witness about his arms trans
action about the time the French government
annulled the contract in which he Garrison
was interested; gave the War Department no
information in regard TO the Garrison matter:
was not aware atthe time that the War Depart
ment had ruled that no arms should be sold to
the agents OF the French government; NAV have
heard OF this ruling, but don't remember; don't
remember ever speaking to any one connected
win the war Department about the Garrison
matter; Mr.. Garrison
NEVER OFFERED WITNESS PENNY
tor witness efforts in his behalf; never acted as
a "middle man" in the purchase OF arms from
the government
BY MIR. Hamlin:-Witness understands that
the margin was returned to Garrison because he
had received no equivalent from the govern
ment, and the latter had sustained no loss; in
fact, the arms were not delivered to Nc. CARR
son, and, consequently, the latter was entitled
TO the return OF his money.
By Mr.. Schurz:-witness probably said to
MIR. Garrison that he would aid him in getting
back the margin he had deposited; Mr.. CARR
sons application had already been favorably
endorsed by Col. Crispin, ordnance officer at
By Mr.. Carpenter:-witness never went 70
any officer OF the government in order to infiu-
ence him in behalf of Mr.. Garrison.
Cen w. y. Frdnk{in, vice president of the
Colts Arms Company, sworn and examined by
Mr.. Schurz:-Knew that q sale of arms wa
made by the Navy Department to Poultney
ITimble q Co., of Baltimore, in the spring o,
ls'1; Poultney acted as a middleman for tn
lie ngtons, and told witness he gave 3 Nh
Marr.,.y $4,000 to arrange the sale with tn,
Navy Department; in December, lao, al
called on witness in New York in regard to tn.
purchase Of Calling guns, the property Of the
government; nine Calling guns were subse-
quently turned over from the Watervliet arsenal
made certain improvements In them under the
direction of the Remingt0ns; witness company
were 10 return nine new guns of q better quality
improve they were sent to the Reminetons in
New York; Sl4, 400 was deposited i'm the hands
of Col. Crispen in New York, who was to re-
turn most of IL to the Colt company when they
gave better guns to the government for the nine
guns they had received from the Watervliet
arsenal; did not receive the gan carriages o.
have anything to do with them; had . CORE
spondence and conversations with Gen. Dyer In
relation TO the Gating guns; did not speak to
Gen. Dyer about the ultimate destination of the
guns; have seen Remington and Squires in Col.
CIpen's office, but don't remember any con-
versations.
Col. G. ,. NcGb1ron was recalled, and testified
that the guns comprised in the Garrison con-
tract were delivered at the wharf the same as
other guns sold. Adjourned.
THE HOUSE ARMS COMMITTEE,
Mr.. Williams, OF Indiana, chairman. held
meeting this morning, and examined William
h. Church, General Rufus Ingalls,, q. X. CARR
son, and A. b. Steinberger. The testimony OF
The three last named gentlemen was similar to
their testimony before the special Senate com
mittee investigating the same matter. Mr..
Church testified that in 1870 and 1871 he was
chief book keeper fOrlMr Cheviteau, who wa.
agent for Mr.. Place, formerly French consul
general at New York, and that his employer
requested him to see Mr.. Norton, book Keeper
for the Re mngton's in New York, and prev all
upon him to make certain representations to
Mr.. Place in regard to irregularities i'm Reming-
tons accounts. The remainder of his testimony
was of 10 special Importance.