New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-01-27
goods for nothing myself so another store should not


memorandum on the books OF what would charge
O. Was Mr.. ,TlOtsCps complaint made to the Custom
O. Then why did you reduce bis bill, Il it was your
tom such to insist upon your legal charees A.
Because the Collector obliged to reduce the bin; ho
has power to compel us TO reduce our charges; the
General Order business was TAKEN away rom one house
because they refused 10 reduce bill according 10 his
orders
O. You state that the whole matter Of the charges by
General Order and warehousng is within the power Of
the Collector Of the Port; is that sol A. Yes, Sir.
Q. Can a system OF unreasonable charges for Gen.
eral Order business exist without his consent Or s,-
provai A. No, Sir.
q. IL cannotf A. No, Sir. -
TESTIMONY OF BENJAMIN +. MupGErT.
Mr. Mudgett was recalled BY Senator Bayard and tcs
O You know George X. Leeti A. I hive met him
once or twice.
O. You knew him during the period held the General
Order business he and Mr.. stockingl A. Yes Sir.
O. Also during the period When he held tho interest
with Mr.. Bixby A. Yes Sir Zoe first introduction I
8. DO YOU remember LET r Written by Mr. Boutwell,
to Mr. GTnne IN regard % tho restoration Of the bust,
heard ii announced II Washington he stated the
substance OF the that to TO the Collector re-
Hoboken and &c Clremont when met Col. Leet was
introduced e., him by Mr.. Boyd and Mr.. Leet then told
he EXPECTED to receive the contract then had Win
the Cove, Gmeut which was about TO expire.
O. Wat contract was thsi A. The labor contract In
L
II ANYBODY else he could have it remarked that Mr.
boutwell, was about Withdrawing one monopoly from
and he remarked, -" / have n man at Washington that
can put his hand on Mr.. Boutwefs shoulder"
o Was anything else said between you and Mr. Lect
on that subecf A. Nothing particular; II was SNORT
conversations he told me he was going TO receive me
contract for the work was then performing winch Was
IIDELoUs ARTICLE.
O. Is there anything else YOU wish to state on this SUBJ
jecti A. Iouy state-I don't know carol saw On
IT,
TO give an interview between myself and Gen. Porter
which was entirely false in every particular; had no
interview with Gen. Porter. only one in which Cen
john Cochrane was pIesen tnG Me- uy Ue Pn Y5c
who the editor of The Standard, had informed MN
that President Grant had said TO him that had stated
mat SD 900 had been sent Porter by people I'm this city,
that II TO he divided between nun ana te Iiesl-
dent that Gen Porter had sent FOR me immediately after
hearing of that report, and that had apooszed Tor
making that statement :,
@ Who told You that's A. John Russell Young; l
heard he had made such statement; asked Linn II ne
did make such statement In the presence OF me gent e.
man who Informed me- and II II was truc ana ne Sdlu u
was, aud gave the statement az have gwen II mere
can say never heard OF any such aiar until htnd y
from the gentleman that Mt Young had reported IT, nl
if cen Porter anybody else maze such statement 1t
Mr. stcwart~You refer to this article n The Times
Glowing witness the papc)i a. Yes, SIR refer 10
O. You say that thatis false a. Yes Sir, in relation
10 The couyersltiun between myself aud Gen: Iorter
/ O. You don't mean TO pronounce the whole article
false A. Not cutIcy but consider the article scan
| dalous. abusive, and hbeious . l,,,..
Q. Tins article states that You were Deputy Collector
| IL 1861 A. Was appointed III 1862 80 -
q. How long did Won remain A. Until 1861 M
q. WHAT department did you have charge OF A Inc
Fifth Division; that had charge VI the en.4les oI the
~ NUGGETS LABOR CoNTRAcr.,
O. What did YOU do after that \. l, with "a gentle
man by the name Jackson, took contract from Tho
Secretary Treasury TO perform the labor Of The
public stores for three years At 100000 year.
O. How was the cantract gotl Was it advertised A
Because for doing work for the year previous sIs
CO had been paid Mr. Jackson and myself looked toV
thought could do at tna Price ana we SEN WIZ
considerable delay, he gave us the contract ana we PCT
S ao dGd anohef party offered to do it for
AMI rot il; Col also told he was trying to get II
When YOU alluded to the General order business he
said that he had who could put hs mana on hr
Rn Rom sIouiderl A. And hold him; said
/ believed that Mr. Boutwell, could contIo inc Md''ei
o. Who was present at that interview between yourself
and Gen. Porterl 4. Gen. John Cochraue cen IoGn
rsre came 10 me and said that Gen Porter fet huIt ne
cause Inc had heard that had said that he was mixed
up with jobs in the Sew-fork Cusi onlons s 20 ,
O. Did you SOY thar a: Yes Slii ga sdy to any ~
believed il; and believe it stli believe II rom Inc
o. He DENIED iti A. Yes, Sir; and stated his reason
said that he did not know MT Lindsay sid tit re!
dent Grant had written 10 ana Col Leet sdid ne couio
90 no AZ at ri time he said that Mr. Icet had 10 interest
in A. Yes Sir, and Nj. Leet told me OF this inter
iy NJ Cernont that he had no interest I'm i told Inc
that had just drawn his salary as an ohcer ana sent
il to his wife, and that that was the Only means lie had
20 no Won know whether this was or was not before
va 81 Ten the General order storel A. Before had
taken possession; it was while he was drawing S5'ON
Witness further stated that he had been appointed an
weeks and then he resigned because he had 10 espc'
| O. Yon have not much respect for Gen. Grant, A
| Well have known men that had more respect for.
O. That the only reason why you would not mold
the object A. one great that did not want
'--' CONCERNING GEN. PORTER.
| @ At the time you were in Washington and saw Gen
] Il.
O. Where did you stopl A. At the Arlington House.
O. Who was there with youf A. Nobody with
| there were a good many people at the hotel.
| O What was your business on that occas0ni A.
had some interest in Washington; owned quarter OF
the Lady Of the Lake. steamboat that was running on
Q. Did You know that Mr. Leet was competitor OF
yOurs7 A. Yes, Sir for year past knew IL he ana
O. You did MT feel very friendly to him for interfering
! o. When did you first know of this BiGby matteri A
knew right along about u; was cog1izant OF MI
| Gr1nnel's action and consulted with him about IT.
/ a when did you learn that Leet wanted 10 get this
| coftracti A. year before It expired.
til A. Nothing, only on this one occasion
| @ Where was that a. At the Clermont HOTEL OF
O. Was this before you went to Washington A.After
O. Whom in Washington, did you first make this state
1nent TO in regard 10 Gen POreri A. we were IN inc
there We're quite number of NewYork gentlemen there
Who we're a good deal excited about these stores Mr.
snE ~ CEN Porter as connected with this matter and
n against the interests Of the commerce OF this
town. and friend OF Porter present said he dc NJ be-
leve he had anything to do with u remarked that
believed had Gen Cochrane called on me next day
and said Porter felt hurt about it don't know VINO
was that made that remark about Porter; can teL
any person present, except Gen. CochTane; went &c
| POrters Monday morning. . -. =.
q, You didn't soy anything about the Presidenti A.
No Sir; the Presidents name was not alluded TO-.
O. When you got 20 POrters, you didn't qualify this
remark at a3 A. No, Sir no said that he had heard
that said knew III told him couldn't say that, pu!
i that said believed IL, and believed 10 STILL
o. want all the evidence upon which that belief
4 A dnntf IN