The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1872-06-29


We print on first page to-day, Hon. Mr.. Carter's
speech in full, on Thursday last on the proposed
amendment to Article % of the Constitution, pro-
viding that the Mobiles and Representatives sit sepa-
rately. The speech is On important one, setting
forth briefly bat clearly some of the principal rea-
sons for the proposed amendment, and showing very
plainly how shallow and insincere were the grounds
urged by the Ministers who conspired to overthrow
the Constitution of 1852. The only response from
the Ministers to Mr.. Carter's able speech, was the
most astoundingly pueriie and dwelling lot Of talk,
we venture to assert, that ever was heard before IN a
deliberatiye Assembly, delivered in his usual toplotty
style by the Minister of Foreign Relations on Satur-
day. After this rambling, pointless speech had been
carefully interpreted word for word, and His Excel
lency had resumed his seat, it was difficult TO decide
what ideas were uppermost IN the minds OF the ma
tive members-a convention of whales in the Arctic
Ocean, or the fact that some of the honorable gentle
men present had sat as members during some pre-
vious session, and that in the Minister'S opinion
they were not yet in their dotage- The final vote by
which the amendment was rejected, proved two
things, viz That had the Estates been voting sepa-
rately. the Representatives would have passed the
amendment and second. that il has grcwn in favor
with the people since the last session, there having
been eighteen who voted aye on Saturday against
ten in 1870.
The ministerial plan of carrying on a printing
SSanctionea Tor inc next t~0 yS.Is, " rne uppropria-
ton of $4,000. The refusal by Ministers to refer
the item to a special committee for investigation into
the receipts and expenditures Of the Government
Press during the past two years, very plainly showed
that the thing would not bear examination. His
Excellency Of the Finances. in undertaking to tell
how the PACIFIC COMMERCIAL ADVERTISER establish
ment is carried on, succeeded in showing that he
knew nothing about il. The fact might have been
stated in connsction with this subject, that the pro-
prietors of this journal have, within the present
year, made a formal offer to Government to execute
all the public printing and print the Gas - besides,
at rites which would save to the Ire -ry from
$1,000 to $4,000 per annum. We have not the
slightest objection to Ministers running two or three
Journals to defend themselves before the public, but
we do and ever shall protest against their carrying
on n newspaper and job printing establishment IN
opposition T. private enterprise, on capital drawn
from the public treasury. IL would be just as fair
and proper for them to take the public funds with
which to carry on the house-building, blacksmithing,
coopering, or any other mechanical pursuit IN this
city, and running their establishments cheaply by
reason Of paying no duties on stock, no rents, taxes
or water-rates, thus compete with great advantage
over our carpenters, blacksmiths and coopers. Or
in the same manner they might establish a wholesale
and retail general merchandise business, or carry on
q sugar plantation. y
A disgraceful scene occurred in the Assembly on y,
Saturday which goes far to cOrroborste the statement
made by an honorable gentleman on Thursday, that
under our present system the Legislature is deterio-
rating fast. The Hon. Mr.. Kahananui, the member
for Hama, becoming offended at another honorable
gentleman for words used in calm debate, displayed
his eminent fitness for his position by throwing a
copy of the statutes at the latter's head, thus In
reality and not theoretically taking the law into
his own hands and would have thrown an ink
lHu dASO = hC " OCCh PlSNNhNSA Nv "oo AA6-
graced by being reprimanded by the President in
the presence Of reporters and the galleries. course
which is unheard Of in parliamentary bodies, and in
implied contrayenton with the rules of the Assembly.
But they have an original way of doing some things
in the Hawaiian Parliament. +"
The debate Of Tuesday on the question Of assuming
the SIG. 900 debt incurred for building the Hawai-
ian Hotel was an interesting one. Hons. Messrs.
Carter and Judd "a. F. spoke at length On the
question, and both speeches told with such CALLING
efec; upon the two prime movers in the scheme as to
leave them with hardly a (moral) leg to stand on, so
to speak. Mr.. Carter urged the ~illegality of the is
suanoe of the so-called hotel bonds with great force,
and as the speeches in reply did not touch upon this
point it must be conceded that he was correct. The
Minister of Foreign Affairs was particularly vehe-
ment in his disavowal of any intention or thought Of
making any money out of the transaction, and We
have no doubt of his entire disinterestedness in the
matter. Entire nous we understand that the bonds
are being bought up at a discount by those whose con-
fdence in the power and influence of the Ministers
lead them to believe that the bill under consideration
will pass, and we would advise the gentlemen who
signed the bonds to secure as many as they can, as
His Ex. the Minister of Foreign Affairs tells US that
I they, the signers, are responsible for one-half the
amount and Chas. Coffin Harris for the other. No
one seems to have thought of raising the point as to
whether the Ministers of Foreign Affairs and Finance
should not be excluded from the debate on this bill,
they both being. interested, but there is time enough
for that. The question comes up again this morning
and We expect TO near the ayes and noes taken on
the question (of taxing each man, woman and child
in the Kingdom two dollars to pay for the hOtel) for
the hrst time .
On Wednesday morning the subject of the item Of
100000 placed in the estimates for n new palace
was under discussion All we're agreed that the old
palace Is unfit for the purpose, and that a new one is
very much needed. The only question is, are We so
cireumstanced financially as TO be able to build at
present? What with the new government buildings,
which may safely be put down to cost S200,OOO the
hotel, for which We arc asked to pay S116, 600 and
some $4,000 more on other needed and contem-
plated public ks,-me very naturally got
alarmed at the prospect of a huge debt (huge for
this country which appears to be impending. The
evident policy OF the ministry is TO run the country
deeply IN debt, and then-whst7 We shall be at
the mercy Of bondholders, and when the deluge
comes their ExceIlencies viii doubtless be found to
have provided for their own safety. The discussion
of the proposed palace occupied about the whole day,
and took a very wide range, ending. in passing the
item at $50, 000-half the sum asked for by the Min
isters-by n vote of 81 to 6. The estimate was -
feased by q noes to IL ayes.
On Thursday again, the Assembly was occupied
the entire day in consideration OF the Hotel qnes-
ton, His Excelleucy the Minister Of Foreign Az
fairs alone speaking three hours on the subject, and