New-York tribune., 1872-10-17
ENGLAND AND IRELAND.
MR. FROrDEs FIRST IEcr1rRE IN AMERICA

lows, Prof. Vincenzo B0tta, DR.. Barnard President
of Columbia College, Geo. VIM Curtis, DR.. Hoi-
land, Robt Hoe, IT,, and n number of Others
little after o'clock the lecturer entered, accom-
panied by the Rev. Howard Crosby, ID. D., Chan
cellor OF the University of New York. and the Hon
John Bgelow. He is q tall and stalwart man,
young-lookng for his years, with dark hair and
dark compexion-a face and figure ,ull of strength
and energy. He was introduced by Dr.. Crosby in
a graceful address, and Immediately began
his lecture. he spoke from manuscript. to which
however he not closely confined. His voice
clear and well-sustained from beginning TO end
of his speech which lasted over an hour and half
a length unusual 20 our lecturo-roers. He Is pecul
arly free from anything like defamation
OF tricks Of OTat0ry his tone and
manner are those Of n nan thoroughly in earnest
and much more intent upon convincing han delight
ing mis- auditors. lie was heard with profound at
tention throughout, and frequently interrupted
by applause extorted either by sudden flash Of
wit or some especially terse and striking bit Of
charaetsr painting. Ar outline Of some OF lis more
striking passages is subjoined:
LADIES AND GEvTLEHES: have come to this ooun-
try TO address you history OF the connection be-
tween two Islands in both which presume that you
feel interest and cannot better introduce the sub
jcct than by reading % you letter written by an
American EmbassadOr 10 an English Prime Minister
Irish gentlemen OF birth and fortune who had been
secretly concerned Ia the iusurreCtion were In
the hands OF the Government. uey had been
engaged in CORES spOndence with tho Directory OF tne
French Republic. They had been betrayed by theirown
confederates many times Irish consprators nave
been betrayed and they banished from Ireland on
condition that they should retire % some country then
at peace with Great Britain; and it was
understood that they meant to seek an
asylum in the United States. Your representative
in England then was Mr.. Rufus King. a name
honorably known through more than one generation OF
American statesmen. lApplausel There survives yet
letter of remonsIance addressed by Mr King 10 our
Primo Minister in which he urges England 70 debar
these seventy gentlemen from making the United states
their place Of retreat dreadng such acquisition TO
any nation
The lecturer read the letter quantity worted epistle,
anu made these comments: suppose that If an enDas
sador from this country should wIe such letter IN
the Sc days 10 would have very long tenure of
Office. Laughcrl Il is now the pride OF both England
and America to offer safe asylum any patriot or any
refugee from persecution and misfortune
A2ERIcA THE mIsHMANs CANAAN.
II is needless % say that eueaty Of Mr.. King was
not acted upon and that OF these gentlemen died
quiet citizens the United States and America has been
since land OF promise 10 the Irsh nation. The Irish
man al the present day looks 20 America as his natural
protector Thus she has become whether for good or
evil party 70 Irish politics. She Is the supreme Court
of Appeal in the Ifsh imagination, and II ever the
ha.ohet is 70 be buiiei u Celtic Protestant and
Irish Catholic are end hoir quarrel in general recon
Citation it VIII BE- when this country has pronounced
that Ireland ought to be satisfied and has no longer
grlevauce which Legislation can remove
I am not here 10 talk c.umonpiac,s about English
tyranny or Irish acrIlny the fact remains that at
this day after years OF forced Connection we are
still unmatched II the yotes OF the Irish population
were taken men for men, twO-thirds would ask for
separation, immediate and eternal IL stands con
fessed before all the world that after All
our efforts We have not made friends. Seven
centuries OF injury divide They desire us simply to
take ourselves away and leave them TO manage their
oSn affairs In their they best please Wien
"a rST 1e5Trd oTir md trouble them 30 mere they VIII
then be wiling perhaps, Interchange cyilitios with
us % take our money II are pleased 70 lend II 70
them. II they could leave their anchorage ana
feat their Island away into the middle OF the
Atlgute I don't think should hayo any
right 20 object. To have 70 part from high
sririted and brilliant race whom have given our
is ,-J Language who have distinguished themselves
m our institution would be disgrace ~ our statesman
..tp but u the Irshper5sted ia ~ We cOau NOT Gen1
thdt Tie experiment OF forced union nas been tried long
enough. We should be obliged then to bid them Goa
1RIsrsiES MUsT WIN rHEIR NDEPENDEScE.
Rut nh osophers have not yet discovered how 70 up
root the soil OF Ireland and long England remains
a great power with fleets and navies, and commercia
interests In every Of the world England cannot
England will not let 20 her hold upon island lying
close under her side. She cannot risk the
possibility Of a hostile state establishing itself
consent either 20 separation To measures designed
10 bring 10 about. Every concession WAlch VIII promote
we are willing 20 volunteer; but cannot commit po
iticul suicide. Until England IL beaten upon her hnees
Ireland must share the fortunes " the stronger country
II the Irish refuses 20 be reconcied 70 US then we
ne Others sdeor they must themselves seek another
home or else they must hght Tor tner independence
and Win II like men. should they achieve such an en-
III
and theneh would struggle 20 hud Ireland 10 ia uee-
dience vet as a member the great human brother
hood when il was dome / should willingly welcome
them another among the nations OIL the earth zap
But political freedom, gontlemen. "a too precious a
jewel 10 he lightly owned 1t Is not TO lnsnDo rlntoh
Thar the aes award the OF national Independence
That crown the reward only Of united persston ae
termination be free, determination WhicA nincles
itself IA deed as well as in word
INDEPENDENCE MUST BE EARNED.
tn win independence they must first learn obey.
They must learn subOrdinauon and seltsacrihce They
must forget quarros and euds uniting themselves
into one harmonious whole with a common purpose 10
bestow Independence upon people who have never
earned IT, is 70 give wings 70 those who have never
| learned 10 ny. Those who desire 70 be Irce
must first show that they can control themselves.
n were 10 sum up sentence the secret OF Ire
lands nsfortunes, should say lt lay IA TINS IhaS
while from The hrst aAe n1s rtsi'o 81 t en- nd rtb
pynsT the wrongs England indicted On her. she mas
yr ipted ytrers 10 he ID her. and herself made
ever ever 1s.otiys - hebt with her own ranks. Com
1are the history Of Scotland with that OF
f-aand England first invaded Scotland, and endeay-
ored 10 Incorporate II England by force The whole
scottish people TOLD Edward il should not be- ENGLAND
oiS GverrIn their country bmd castles and garrison
tbem-she could intrigue, bribe, and threaten. I9e
| FDgii.h failed They could not XII the whole
/ ne6nle and while the people lived the people
/ we're determined to be free; England found
/ !. b.d "a wolf By the throat. She could
not sirange it, the effort to hold IL down was too e1
b9usfing 10 be maintained, and the contest was aDan
d~ned To-day a union exists between the tW0 anu IL
Va effected Oh equal terms. To-day scotland retains
hcr religion all her laws the SCOTTISH mobiles remain on
| .fv IL md Uf