New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-01-09
THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUED.
FALSE RETURNS,

The Chairman OF the committee, Hehl'oI
Bucbu gham said he desired TO call attention to the
names Of four persons who would testify In regard 10
frauds connected with the return of weights they were
VIM H. Proctor, Patrick Callahan, James Elliott ana
James Kelley.
There being no objection. they were summoned to ap-
pear before the Committee.
Senator Buchngham-I desire TO say on behalf Of Mr.
Lewis that with the statement presented by zoe To 10"
Committee the other day. stated that II was unanimous
Mr. Lewis says he knows the writer stated that IN"
party was connected with the Custom house; MT Lew
with the Custom-nOuse. Mr.. Lewis also requests me 70
stae that the paper was not designed 10 oe ualn
before the Committee but merely private cOmmuncd-
ton to me-. did not give him an opportunity 20 s.a,.
that, and that lie why presented 1t TO the commune
also requested that nothing personal De attached ~ "
| TESTIMONY OF Mr.. WHITELAw REID.
The Chairman announced to MIR. Reid that
they would be pleased any further statements he
| might have 10 make. Upon which,
| Mr. Rnd-When 1 was on the stand short time ago
was asked as 10 the authority for certain satemeh-
mado in an article which shown to me- puhlthed ia
The TRIBUNE and, having given that authority IN part
was asked 10 indicate It more particularly and was
| informed would be called again; and ! was
furnished with copy OF the resolution under
which I believe this Committee was appointed
was then asked 20 furnish any Information which might
have come In capacity as editor In reference I"
the points upon which tho Committee was Instructed
10 inquire some OF which especially indicated and
marked by several gentlemen OF toLnmlttct'
pose 70 IA scarcely necessary me TO 20 INTO much de
tail now in giving evidence for the article which was
referred 20 In THE TRIBUNE IL has believe 10 almost,
every statement been IN tns nee
Committee. large part OF the article was based upon
statements either made or confirmed by one or your
principal witnesses Mr.. Lindsay another large part OF
Il was chiefly, condensation or the Report which,
thnk Ia living on your table made by the previous Com
1 mittee. have the article here, however, and II tho
Il Chairman, or any member OF the Committee desires me
20 20 through It. vindicato specincaiy the authoiy
| for each of the ststements.
senator HOwe-Baye yOu the articlei A. have it
1ss nearly two columns long Is tie one which senator
Howe had, and on which he msrsed certain points 70
vas the statement that the system force before Let
Stocking into possession OF the General Order Dns
or hindrance the merchant or steamship company,
ana the most rapacOus Collector was unable to discover
INV nan whereby unjust toll could be extOred rom
merchants the merchandise thus brought 70 nus pore
until Thomas Murphy came INTO power ,hin inc
nroyed by the several witnesses VINO nave been called
before Charles q Fra S ANY Sde 9S
AGAIN 10 the general satisfaction given by the Old 'ls
ten; a6m Se who were dissatisfied with it, its eyden,
there were great many more VINO were better sSll""
Satore IL yoa letter from large number Of importing
schans asking for return 70 the old ~ stem; WHICH"
| s'S,nnse will be accepted az satisfactory.
Senator Casserly-You mean the memorial adj
dressed TO Collector Murphy A. Yes slr signed by
Phelps, Dodge Co. ra'Veh =" w. - d. 'i'''''''' "
c CO. ana rnI HHSSSe%Perhaps might well state
YOU. here, that the point 10 mat passage 10 when
wished YOU give especial attention was Una, iu, o
@ ssv u was about the time that II was hiSi reported
ram Washington that Thomas Murphy would succeed
X 1riDne as Collector that what took place
III Ehat war ordered that all goods ulcHsTs' uhtt
s1e YORK under the control OF Leet, STOCKING Com
,nsny that order, might say, was maue P,es5, oa
t the Isl time Il was perfectly well known ia New
4 York aud 1t can be a.eertaIed oy e s e,
ers making Tor the appointment OF Thomas Murphy
Il % The question is do yOh or ne you not KNOW tat the
1ere time before that and by the
Srs ~ Mr. Cjriunel instead of by orders Of MI Mnr
me A have heard that don't know IL OF 10y own
Haa Won beard it before this article A No. my
kat1en tion had not been called 10 II:
% before that article published, you did not know
don't thin knew IL then do not know 1t now eN-
cept us q matter of hearssy. l. A.. A. c.-,,.
Senator Casserly-My impression is that Mr.. Gunnell
himself explicitly tCsuhes that the whole General
rder business not concentrated IN Leet Stocking
0 Senator Howe~The point ia, when i taken IRON,
tine Jersey side stores had on seen w. Grnnel es
mony on The former ANIMATION! A. had seen II, but
| had not studied II car'luIy .
yas published you die not know That that business Was
tansfe FRED from the other side OF the rNsr during M
had not entered into any details OF 1t however AMI was
not familiar with H. a.. --, a.. - -
tb MOI ming the effect that the exposure OF the
rchanIs arose OF the transfer Of the general order
arehouses on this side Is that what you Intended W
ASSERT A. What intended TO say was that the change
NnNn1
ated for 10 years, more 10 the now In force
under Leet a Stocking. whatever that system may lie
AMI NAV say not at all familiar with it's details
O. OnteTppting) Wen, do You state what oppoItu.
| the Cunard steamship Company, and the Bremen Com
many had not any other warehouse man who stores
| General Order gOOdsf A. That, Will not state,
because not first referred 20 in this article espec
ally and because, as have already said have NO IN
| formation in detail upon any OF those points.
o. But the charge II understand 1t, IL that the mer
chSndse conipg TO this point was exposed 10 some new
| peril some new outrage, by the breaking up OF tho
Order other ede and Eansfor
of the goods 10 Lest, stocking Company warehouse
| now what was the new perilf A. have no evidence
such evidence a. has already been
laid before you in the testimony OF Mr.. Lindsay and
"thers which had or rather which the reporter had
who prepared this article as IL was briefly stated 70 me-
LET co.'s MONOPOLY.
| Senator Cssseriy- Let me make q suggestiop that
II WAS the monopoly given 20 Leet stocking after Mr.
orlnnes time about the time Mr.. Murphy came in, that
WA talked Of which consolidated the oppression, because
having monopoly, they were able 70 charge what they
pleased pretty much. and the competition which had
previously existed destroyed A. That IL precisely
what meant to say "the system as it now exists
| think used those words
o. DO YOU mean TO state then, that II because Of
the monopoly that Was vested In Leet stocking 20.
/ that the merchandise OF this port exposed 10
dangers that III A substantially that VIII not say
solely because IL WAS monopoly bat tho sysfem, what
other objections there may 10 70 IL or giving En-
| clusvey To one nrm.
O. Well Mr. Reid, viii you tell me In what sense Leet
Stocking Co. had monopoly Of the General Order
goods that the Cunad and other boats had mott 1ha
cannot tell again, for the reason have ALREADY stated
| that am not familiar with the details.
| O. Do YOU know that Jhey had any monopoly OF L2seo
| goods that tho others hal mott A. Repeating fos 50
fourth or nfth tune what have already said, hnsv
nothing about H. hearssy evidence as ssssss an