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St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
American Ill-Breedine

A notifying expose of our national
lack of good breeding was offered. we
learn, at the reception lately given by
the Japanese Embassy in Washington
Who the mob were who were invited,
IT is difficult to say; they certainly bore
the names of the leaders of Washington
society; Yet, before half of the guests
had been presented to their stately en-
tertalners, these so-called ladies and
gentlemen rushed into the supper-room,
and not only greedily began to devour
all before them, as though half-stary-
ing, but tore down the floral and other
decorations, until when their hosts ar
rived the scene was one of as general
havoc as though the swine of Gree had
been let loose i'll the hall. lone of the
Embassy, We are told, ..reaching for
a small Japanese tiagc on the. chandel-
Ter, to present to ii lady on his arm. n
U. ). officer showed him aside. and.
taking out his sword, hacked and bewed
at it to bring it down for himself. until
the lamp shades We're shattered over
the table" Meanwhile. our uncivilized
guests concealed their disgust at the
scene under their usual grave courtesy.
With every fresh embassy from IA
foreign country, it would seem that our
fashionable society devised some new
vulgarity as specimen of our national
manners, with which we might be NOR
titled by the report abroad. When
Alexis was here, our ladies, in their
subservient anxiety TO please, comport-
ed themselves toward him in every
public place with the demeanor of wait
ing maids rather than we'll bred women.
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
Estates.


JENNET A. WATSON'S ESTATE.
% STATE OF VERMONT, CALEDONIA DISTRICT s.:
In Probate Court, held at the Probate Once in
st. Johnsbury in said district on the 2sth day OF
March, \. D. 1872 . $3.50. .
John Service and Jonathan d. Abbott, executors
of the last will and testament and codlcI oil ehhe'
A. Watson late of Barnet, III SAID ulStrict, ee
ceased present their administration account ior
examination and allowance, and make apPhGatoh
for decree of distribution and partition oil the es-
tate of said deceased.
Whereupon it is ordered by said Court that said
account and said application he referred to SEES
sion of said Court to be held at the Probate Orhce
i'll said ST. Johnsbury on the 18th day OF AprlL
A. ID. 1872, for hearing and decision threon And II
is further ordered that notice hereof be gwen TO
all persons Interested by publication of the same
three weeks successfully in the Caledonian, news,
paper published at St JOhnsbury, previous to sad
time appointed for hearing, that they may appear
at said time and place and show cause, if any they
NAV have. why said account should not be allowed
and such decree made
by the Court Attest.
ASA l.. FRENCH, Judge of Probate.
\ true copy of Record Attest
1912 ASA l.. FRENCH Judge of Probate.
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12

poke those wonderful little fingers OF
theirs into every fold and crack and
crevice they can get at? That is their
first education, feeling their way INTO
the solid facts of the material world.
When they begin to talk. 1t Is the same
thing over again i'll another shape. IL
there is a crack or ii flaw III Your an
swer to their COMPOUNDED shoulder hit
ting questions. they will poke and poke
until they have got it gaping, just as
the the baby's finger have made ii rent
ont of that atom of hole in his pima
fore, that your old eyes never took no.
tice Of Then they make such fools by
copying on small scale what we do in
the grand manner.-O. W. Holmes.
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12

CHILDREN-.I like children.' he
said to me, one day at the table Il
like EN-, and respect 'em. Pretty
much all the honest truth telling there
is i'll the world is done by them. Do
you know they play the part in the
household which the kings Jester, who
very often had "A mighty long head I'M
der his cap and bells. used to play for
monarch There's no radical club like
nest of little folks in nursery. Did
You ever watch ii baby's fingers? |
have, often enough, though | never
knew what it was to own one" The
master paused half minute or so, sigh
ed perhaps at thinking what he had
missed i'll life-looked up at me little
vacantly. | saw what was the matter;
he had lost the thread of his talk
"Baby's fingers" intercalated. eyes,
yes; did you ever see how they will
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
Great Sale of Real Estate at
AUCTION!

The subscriber having left the state, will sell out
all his real estate and personal property III 81.
.Johnsbury and Waterford at auction. on
THURSDAY, APRIL II. 1872. commencing at 10
o'clock. A. NJ.
The MARK NUTTER PLACE. situated in East
ST. Johnsbury consisting of a dwelling house barn
and one acre of land
acres with comfortable buildings, situated a half
mile from East II. Johnsbury.
THE BELA HASTINGS PASTURE, contain
inc l}O acres adjoining James Works pasturc-a
valuable piece Of land and called one of the best
pastures i'll this section. w
AlSn at same time and place. the following FER
SONAL PROPERTY. One good work horse. :
years old: > COWS: ! sh"tc; buggy wagon; light
harness: lot of POTATOES: lot of English hay and
lot OF household furniture
sale pusiiivr \ part of the money can lay on
the real estate. =. IL. fEMICh
" l.. BOWMAN Auctiouerr.
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
Farm for Sale !!

The Lee farm in Peacham. containing about
- acres OF land. There is a large sugar place.
Farm suitable for pasture. Will be sold either IN
whole in lots suit purchasers For information
write or call upon Josiah ). Kennaston, PeachaIn,
,r George s Shaw, OF Belden & May, St Johnsbury'
lob
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
sfnr Sale.
Stock for Sale.

The subscriber wishing to close up her Millinery
business at McIndoes Falls, Vt, now offers her
stock of Goods for sale consisting OF a good vare
~ of GOODS sut.d to the season. which she will dis
pos, Of in a lot at a good bargain Any one wish;
inp to engage in the Millinery business would find
this good place and rare opportunity 10 com
mence, if they will call soon. , ,,,,rn
McIndoes Falls Vt March -, 1872. lOll
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
buy Me and I'll do you Good"
DIR. LANGLEN'S
Root and Herb BitterS.

This medicine is, without the possibility Of a
doubt the very best remedy known for the follow
ing and all kindred diseases: Indigestion '"stFe-
ness Liver Complaint Piles. Headache Heartburn.
Dyspcpsia Dizziness Scrnfula, Salt Rhrum, Ian
gnor Laziness Debility, Jaundice Flatulency'
Foul Stomach, &C.
Nv the timely ust. of this medicine the blood is
purified The appetite is restored. The system Is
strengthened. The liver is invigorated. The
breath is Swectrncd. The complexion is bcautiied.
And the general health is restored.
The best Roots. Herbs and Bark enter into the
composition of this Remedy. making II IA simple
and SAFE as well unfaing for all diseases
Of the blood.
GEO. {. GOODWIN \ co. Boston. For sale
by all Druggists. J2O
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
Sc Acres of Land.
House & Small Farm for Sale.

The .T"hn Morse place. consisting of a tw"st"ry
house. and bindings. and ;hunt Ii acres of
Land situated in the village of -. .Iuhnshury Cen
Ire. j. offered inr sale. There H. GOOD spring water
ruruiu. tu buIh hullS,. and barn. All the land Is
about the bindings level. ;rs,~>ill' easily work
ed and III a GOOD state. ct cultivation.
The PLACE. - desirable, Tor any who wants u
small place. il quiet village convenient To church
and schools ~ the trains run, scholars can
attend the 81. .Inln~hury Academy. the High
Scl"l "n the Plain from this village and board AT
home.
F"r PARTICULARS enquire Of {. NJ. STONE al this
office. " the premises. -iit
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
- - N H. n lDI.
AMERICAN AND FOREIGN PATENTS
X. fl. EDDY,
OROF PATENT>

For InrentiOnS. Trade Marks or Desiyn.
No. &c State Street, opposite Kilby Street Ia,,,.
Mass.
After an extensive practice of upwards Of r..-,
wears continues to secure patents III the I'M.
States also i'll Great Britain France and rli.rr..
eign countries. Caveats. specifications huIu.- .
ignments and all papers or drawings f"I Iai..-.
executed on liberia terms. and with drspar,t. L.
searches made into American or foreign WuI.. o..
determine the validity utility of patents ,.
ventions-and legal OF other advice rendered ID .
matters touching the same, Copies OF the, claim. A.
any patent furnished by remitting q ASS
ment@ recorded at Washington.
TESTIMONIALS.
Il regard Mr.. Eddy AS of the most -u,r,-,,
and capable practitioners with whom ! hI.- i..
official intercourse. CHAS. MASON.
Commissioner Of l'i',tr.
L have no hesitation i'll assuring lnVcI''r- p. d,
they cannot employ person more compete AID
ustwUrthy. and more capable of putin r..,
applications i'll form to secure for them .....
and favorable consideration at the patent u''..,
Nd BURKE Late Commission ,, D.
tents.
Mr.. Il. Ii. Eddy has made for me - appi.,tr...
on all hut of which patents have been Tall,
and that il pending. Such UHmI-Ia,r..
proof of great talent and ability on hi pan ..t.
me to recommend all inventors To apply l." f.r.-
procure their patents they may Ice surr ui be-
IN. thu, most faithful attention bestowed uu '..
cases and AT very reasonable charges.
Bnston. Jan. l. l-72.-ly. JOHN IAGiiNLI
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12

Youpo girls waited eagerly. trembling
for him TO choose them as partners III
the dance. and in a neighborlng city,
whore a private supper-rOOm was fur
n;sbed for himself and suite, at IA ball,
the men took their places first, and the
Ladies we're huddled in afterward, blush
ing under the honor.
In the present case, the Washington
leaders of bon ton seem to have looked
upon their hosts as savages, and gladly
embraced the chance to return to their
original nature. Some explanation Tor
this almost incredible vulgarity may be
found in the fact that our society Is so
largely under the control of boys ana
girls, wholly immature i'll knowledge,
good sense, or good breeding. But the
herd of admirers who painted after Al
exis. and the hungry crowd who tore 10
pieces the Japanese supper-taple' COIL
/ prised a goodly number OF natrolls'
| Can il he that our women, III clalillnS
indenepdeut standing ground beside the
men have not perceived that the grave
self-respect and courtesy of "A gentleman
wins its way further than the bOorish-
ness of the rutiian Must they begin at
the lowest grade of manhood to work
their way up? Outside of the limits OF
tawdry fashionable life, our ladies re-
tain. as we believe, the dignity and re-
serve which is the birthright of every
wcll-brcd woman. But, unfortunately
neither japanese nor Russians penetrate
into the arc;na of American home-life
". y. Tribune.
The use of stamped envelopes ha
now spread until one-tifth of all the
letters that pass through the mails art
put into them, saving an Immense
amount of bother to the public and de
feating much of the fraud that used t.
spring from the second Use of imper
fertly cancelled stamps. The envelope
: lobby have been trying t" defeat th'
further practice of this system. The
use of retrIIn-request envelopes has 81
far diminished the return of letters t.
the dead-letter office that 40 less clerk
are required.
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12

HORSE SHOEINC.
The PLACE to get your horse shoeing done in ship
shape, Is AT the OLD STAND ON Eastern Avenue
formerly occupied by lIarrom n Flavin. have
now on hand the largest and best assortment of
hammered shoes i'll the state all made from the best
material. All kinds of forging and repairing done
AT short notice. All my work warranted To give
satisfaction charge.
We work for those who pay the best and if We get
time We work for the rest.
All parties indebted to HarrOun & Flavin AT. r..
quested I" call and settle Immediately.
l.. FLAVIN
lo:5h Eastern Avenue
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
FARM FOR SALE!

The subscriber offers his farm for sale. situated
short distance from Ne. Danvillc village. Said
farm contains hundred and fourteen acres of
excellent land we'll divided mt" pasturagr tillagr
and moving Thirty wood land. splendid ~II-
gar orchard of tv' hundr,d trees. Ais" apple or
chard mostly N"ung and thrifty trees. raised two
hundred bushels of apples this last sras"n Also a
Large garden OF excellent fruit. buildings
Portable. ANY wishing Ia purchase. the above
farm please. call on the subscriber at Ne. Danvilt
village. CHAS. NARNEE.
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
Wood! Wood J!
For Sale! NV Homestead,

l.. {. WuOBEUEY will deliver IGnch SLAB
Wool in the village AT ~ per cord. II" will ais"
,I,, i,,I,lt., al all kinds
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12

Our Pure White Lead both dry and ground in
oil, We warrant To he strictly pure, and GUARAN.
TEE that for fnoHeSS body and durability is not
surpassed by any Lead in the market either foreign
or American.
: In order IL protect ourselves, We have adnpt
ed trademark eight pointed red star with
our corporate seal in the centre. This is on every
package of our Pure Lead. None genuine without
IL
St. Johnsbury Caledonian. [volume] (St. Johnsbury, Vt.) 1867-1919, 1872-04-12
Carriage and Repair Shop for Sale

A Wh-rl"ck Hollow. with good Machinery and
water power and plenty nf work I" IL, done. \ lsn.
OSBORN ARD OF II. bloomsbury or II. II. WARD
the place. off
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door
l'u. car" AMI sorrow and chilGh'rtt yam,
Lr,t th.it traces on heart and trAlu
And OF. when the Summer aur ahone hot
On the uew.mowu hay III the meadow jot
And che heard the little spsinp brook fail
Over the roadside, through the wa!I
In the shade 81 the spp,e tire sga,E
She saw q rider draw n.e AclD
And, gazing down with tiiuj<; grace,
She felt his pleased eyes cea0 A.s lar
Sometimes her narrow Kitchen walls
Stretched away into stately AalIs
The weary wheel spinn ct tU.no,.
The .GlloW candle AZ astral bW4"d
And for him who 7at rY the chimney LUG
Doing and grautling y sr pipc ana nu!s
4 rlanlv form ~ her side she sA};
And Joy was duty and !og, was 'M"
lhrn she took up he. burden VI! lii, ays.il
Saving only ~ might hnCs. iee@
Aiar for maiden, Mas for Judge
ror richer rcpin"r and huu~cholJ d.lila'
Coo pity tuem both anu pity H. ri.
" ho yAiniv tue dreams pi youth !nctH
For Of al sad words Of tongue or r"n.
III" s4ddrst o' th"s:. 1t m.ao. has,
been '"
Ah, well for qs all some sweet hope .i'-
Uu'p y uuric,. iron hunan "rt',
/ ,f in iI,., n..r.4if,C an .r.I. my
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ni SETTIE POWER !InUSTQH


Good by, darling !" That Was all,
Stsrs peepcd through the purple sky,
and the river rrp!rl lv.
"Nond, tv, darling {" one more kiss
Fell upon my b,lshlng check;
rbuu lie paused How could we speak
Close he e.held me in his arms, >.
WHO remembers Sorrows dart,
Check 10 chrri. and heart 10 i.raIt
"Gnpd.hy, darling" whispered low
"" had known .uch hliro below
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She welded man uuleatued and poor
and many cuiluicn played round l.
door
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";rod by, darling " That WAS all,
Twilight shades begin t" fall
Ntars pcepcd through the purple sky.
And the river rippIcl 'v.
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We haze two first rate Base ;'Hll
Qjnba IN tue regiment, ana the Iu"n
jui>uH leisure hours exercise tAeM
'solvc* in tbs u#,ioun, and mar. :
The Idaho world. [volume] (Idaho City, Idaho Territory) 1864-1918, 1872-05-23

THE ENDORSEMENT or THIEVES We take
the following from the New York Horid oil
April Goth:
Where is the carpet Dagger whom Grant has
ever discoantenanced Whiit-more was eject
ed from Congress and is allowed to appear as
Grant partisan. Bowen was lodged in n
Penitentiary and Grant forthwith pardoned
him out. Time and again every power OF the
Executive has been strained for the support.
encouragement and appreciation of carpetbag
thieves. The debts Ut the Southern States
have been reported TO Congress as some $3.50
100000 in the aggregate. 100000 600 whereof
has accrued under the robberies OF the unut-
terable scoundrels whom Grant has SO often
favored, and on whom he now relies for his
Southern support. Our own figures, more ac-
curate than those reported to Congress, since
complied from official reports. show the aggre.
gate debt of the ten reconstructed States tn be
1921 ,626 ,0I5. an increase Of S2l5. 210 l25 un-
der cIrpet-bag regime, while the entire debt of
all the other twenty-seven States is but s203
100000. Has not Grant approved, maintained,
Endorsed. condoned, supported the vile thieves
who have done this7
The Idaho world. [volume] (Idaho City, Idaho Territory) 1864-1918, 1872-05-23

ToSGUEs.-Nothing but the proboscis Of an
elephant compares in muscular flexibiiity with
the tongue 1t varies in length and size in
reptiles. birds, and mamalla. according to the
peculiar organic circumstance of each. gi-
RATS tongue has the functions of finger. 1t
is hooked over high branch, its strength be-
ing equal to breaking off large strong branch.
es or trees, from which tender leaves are then
stripped. An ant-bear's tongue is long and
round, like whip lash. The animal tears
open dry, clay walls Of ant hills, thrust in his
tongue which sweeps round the apartments,
and by its adhesive saliva brings out a yard of
ants at swoop The mechanism by which it
is protruded so far is both complicated and
beautiful. A dogs tongue in tapping water
takes n form by mere act of yolitun that
cannot be initiated by any ingenious mechan
ism. The human tongue in the articulation of
language surpasses in variety Of motions the
widest emotions of poet. Even in swallow.
ing food its Office is so extraordinary that
psychologists cannot explain the phenomena of
deglutition without employing the aid of sew.
eral sciences journal Of Health.
The Idaho world. [volume] (Idaho City, Idaho Territory) 1864-1918, 1872-05-23

GENUINE ELooUEScE.-Leitb. in his trav.
els in Ireland, says; 10 my morning rambles,
man sitting on the ground, leaning his
back against the wall, attracted my attention
BY look Of squalor 10 bis appearance. which
had rarely observed in Ireland. His clothes
were ragged to indecency. and his face was
pale and sickly. He did not address me, but
having gone few PAGES my heart smote me,
and turned back.
IF you are in want" said I. with degree
Of pevishness, "why don't you begl"
.'Sure, it's begging / am" was the quick
reply.
''You did not utter word"
"No! Is it joking you are with me, SIR
Look here" said he, holding up the tattered
remnant of what had once been a coat, "do
you see how the skin is speaking through the
holes in my trowsers. and the bones speaking
out through my skini Look at my sunken
cheeks, and the famine that's staring 10 my
eye. Man alive isn't it begging am with a
hundred tongues2"
The Idaho world. [volume] (Idaho City, Idaho Territory) 1864-1918, 1872-05-23

The MYSTERY OF NCMBEgs.-Pythagora,
held numbers 10 be the principle of nil things
and perhaps they are. when frequently addcc
together with 5 prefxed. The two great prin
ciples of the sage were the munad and Quad
IN other words. unity. duality. 4 modern phi
losnphrr has come out in the Ontario MsxscH
ger IN favor of the number three He has roam
Ell about IN the siore house of his memory. and
pulled down from his shelves every thing young
or oil. good or bad. and Indifferent. that beara
a trial character or aspect.
Three was the number Of the Graces. thd
Faies, the Furies the Syrens. the Gorgons and
the GreIs-thoss Internal hays. VIII" had bu|
one eye and one tooth among them, which the 4
used to borrow hy turns, rs they were 20 sed
company or to chew their cud.
Grryon had three bodies; Cerberus headj
enough for them all. and solomon rs many upI
tions. There were three Triumvirates: CaI
sar. Pompey and Crassus; Augustus. Antony
and Sepsidus: and Andrews. Beville and
Crcwe. The last is formed by one Trlgliph tool
Apollo has his Tripod. and Neptune his TriI
dent. One, two. three and away was the word
for starting at the Olympic races And ths.
ancents used to call thrice upon every curnsr,
to know il it could start any objections 70 it,
being inferred. Which naturally leads me 10
Hades or AIDES, the old fashion region of dis.
trlbution. according to our good or bad deed.
Ii consisted of three provinces. Eredns. Tar.
tarus and Elysium-Hraven. Hell and Purga.
tory-it had It's three judges. too: Minos. Ala
Gus and Rhadamanthus Its three rivers. too:
Phlrgthaon. Cocytus and Acheron. with many
other T-idds too numerous and inconsiderabIe
to mention.
To this might have been added that fhree
wise men Of -Gotbem went to sea in n bowl !:
that a sentry says who comes there 7" three
times. before he sends bullet after a man
that note Of hand has three days grace; and
that postage stamp costs three cents.
The Idaho world. [volume] (Idaho City, Idaho Territory) 1864-1918, 1872-05-23

CLERICAL WrT.-There dwelt among the
hills of Cooke county, Tennessee, some years
since, a man naaed Watts "bard shell :"
preacher, who was also doctor. He was
thus enabled to minister to bodily ailments
while offering the consultations of religion to the
ain sick soul. In order to renew bis own spir-
itual strength he sometimes found it necessary
to imoibe little spirituous liquor. and on one
occasion, having drawn much consolation and
Sigor from a bottle which he carried in his
pocket, be ascended the pulpit and held forth
in the customary hard-shell style. lie grew
very vehement, and in making sweeping
gesture unfortunately broke bis bottle, scatter.
Ing the Huid all around. Stopping short in
the midst fan eloquent passage, he exclaimed,
rThere, brethren, goes soae poor woman's
medicine and then resumed the thread, ETC.