The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-07-26

HERALD RKpREsEsrAvIvE-Bu this is going away
from the charge that Mr.. Greeley favored paving
| diers
MIR. CARMIcHARL-That is statement coming
from false and unscrupuous people, and wish TO
| aver that nothing, as lar as am concerned, ever
was mentioned In the few business or common
place letters sent to the Tribune editor. The only
convention ever attended as delegate was the
State Convention in 1851, and the only other one
was at took place at Baltimore IN 1850; though the
! participation in such assemnlages, OF which
l am entirely innocent.
THE MISTAKE OF NO. NOMINATING CHASE
In 1868 left the situation, much to my
sorrow. in the old unsettled condition fol-
lowing the war. Not ceasing to think Of The mat
but learning that the condition OF his health was
| very unsatisfactory turned my attention, seven
HERALD RRPREsENrArIvE-Tow Mr.. Greeley
Mr. CARMIcHAEI-Yes, sir. spoke with the peo-
pie OF Otsego county, as oppor.unlty offered both
democrats and republicans. ] discovered that
Horace Greeley was very popular; for we all up
here, irrespective OF party, have great confidence
kindly toward him. l considered he would be a
very. acceptable and available candidate for the
Presidency, and far from holding any relations, be-
fore that time, with Mr. Greeley the gentleman
was to me an entire stranger. My desire to
reach some compromise that would tend to the
harmony OF the nation 1T large, and not keep at
our feet an Ireland, badly treated by the Grant
mercenary aud family party, or q Poland that
world.
Herald RErREsENTAriyE-When did you first
II.
Mr.. OAIMICHAEIs-Agan excuse me- The New
YORK Times statements, copied rom the BinghaIn-
ton republican, are false In gross and in detail.
There il not word In any letter sent by me to MIR.
Greeley or received by me from him, as win tell
you, to justify the reckless assertions as to Mr..
Greeleys correspondence with Governor seymour,
or any ADLER prominent democrat, as far as l know
HERALD REpEEsENrATivE-in your own way
please relate the story
Mr.. CARMIoHAEI-In October, 1871, called upon
Mr.. John Eddy, who was a delegate 10 the Constl-
tutional Convention; lie e arepubican. l also
magistrate; Harvey Hunt, republican, and G. S.
Armes an eX-member of Assembly, and also re-
publican who were Disguised with the
JUNKETING AND BLANK STUPIDITY OF GRANT,
who does not seem to possess capacity enough
to speak two sentences on any subject on
any occasion, far as the people know,
these gentlemen ! inlerylewed Mr. Birlsal,
formerly Surveyor of the port Of New York and ex
member of Congress. and Perry 7: Rogers, repub-
lican attorney OF Binghamton. They all were NOR
titled In observing the bind and wretched policy
OF keeping alive the wounds caused by war ended
| seven years ago, and which policy they declared
! was unjustifiable in the eyes OF God and man.
| The talk OF a union where there was nothing but
| policy under Grant OF dsunion and persecution,
was something that required even as humble an
| individual as l am to raise my voice in favor Of
change. Avoiding consultation with any person, 1
determined to write to several parties, with the
| by the liberal republicans ana democrats.
| HERALD REPREsENTATIvE-Did you write to Mr..
GreeleyP
Mr.. CARMIoHAEL-Now here Is what want you
| to be very particular In taking down. did write
to Mr.. Greeley, to whom was at that time per-
feet stranger l had as little notion Of anything
important growing out of 1t the child that runs
before US under one OF the maple trees beneath
the window gave to Mr.; Greeley my views as to
| OF keeping the Southern States under martial law,
or call it, as the sycOphants and ONCE holders de-
smoky, hOrsy individual In the White House, aided
in the Senate by Conkling and his crowd, to upset
touching upon Kindred topics. He replied, and
| will give his words as far as can recollect.
MIR. GREEIEY'S LETTER.
| Mr.. Greeley answered my communication as sup
pose he has, for years, responded to thousands
| OF others OF similar kind should have stated
| that informed him that he was the choice, In my
opinion, OF the people In the interior OF New York
for the Presidency. Mr.. Greeley wrote, so far as
| recollect for have not got the letter.
IN have
not that S ~, would have done much Oh, tS heal
may unfold let not be impatient for cannot my
own "A' '''"' 70 JIG 'H0 0' '' HORACE a GREELEY
DENTISTRY AND CALIGRAPHY
Is nothing In
making a bargain with the democracy. see a
"Doctor' Ireland, dentist In your town, swears
| that Mr. Greeley promised to yon that the tone OF
the Tribune would be changed after January, 1872.
| He appears to be
PARTICULARLY SMART CHAP
! In discovering what Others in the journalistic pro-
| fession failed to see.
Mr.. CARMICHAEL received about five letters
from Mr.. Greeley, all In answer to communications
sent him. AS they came to hand considered that
| they were in no sense private, Or In my opinion,
| very particular. showed them to democrats and
Grant men alike repeat again what said before,
that Mr. Carpenter in solemnly swearing that he
read letter from Mr.. Greeley 10 me in which ref
erence was made to pay Confederate soldiers PEN
sions, it being totally false, is something leave
for him to settle between his conscience and his
sation was ever such a topic touched upon by Mr..
Greeley or myself Mr.. Carpenter IN this matter
places himself In very questionable position be-
| fore the people OF Otsego county. "Doctorn Ire
land is a light weight and though swearing to exa-
min Inttn ha patr
owing to bad caligraphy, only recognizing sigma
ture and printed top heading, yet this doctor"
letters, that only exist il is merely charity to
| state in his own imagination. The doctor" will
perhaps learn before he Is much older, that to be
vlrtuous Is to be happy. The cobbler ought to
| stick to his last.
HERALD REpREsENrArrvE-Is not that Mr. Car
doctor" Ireland?
Mr.. CARMIcHAEL--No, sir; but let me go on, for l
know your time is valuable. The only letter re-.
ceved by me from Mr.. Greeley in which reference
| is made to politics, is the one given at length
ABBY ora, Mr. Greeey haa ANY pc
| connect my name with 1t Is the rankest kind OF
THE FUN OF POLITICAL AFFIDAv1rs
| HERALD REPREsENTATIvE-Allo me to ask you
| this question. Mr.. Carpenter, in his affidavit
Horatio Seymour to you, dated in August or early
in September, 1871, on the subject or paying pen
sions to rebel soldiers, and in which he expressed
himself IN opposition 10 making the pension Qtes-
ton an issue Uen. Is that trueY
Mr. CARMcHAEL-That statement Is false, and
the man who swears to it others than myself
| should deal with. At no time did refer to such a
subject In communication with MI. Greeley or
Governor Seymour, or they to me in writing or
| otherwise
HERALD REPREsENTATTvE-Dd Mr. Greeley sug-
gest or invite you to attend the Cincinnati or Bal
timore Conventionsy
| Mr.. CARMICHAEI-No, sir; never.
HERALD REPREsENTATlvE-Alter receiving the
letter above mentioned from Mr.. Greeley what
steps, II any, die you takef
Mr.. OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES please listen, and you
win see how the action OF plain, wcll-meanlng
citizen has been distorted and made material Of In
an attempt to DJure and deceive. The people
were and are for Mr.. Greeley anyhow, and any
thing Of this Kind cannot affect ais popularity to
the amount OF row of pins. l ACT with the liberal
| republicans because though democrat, the in
terest OF the country requires, in my opinion the
! brokerage that Is selling Offices by the Dents and
| Porters aud the family arrangemcnt at WASHINGTON