New-York tribune., 1872-06-21
THE DEBATE ON EARL RUSsELL's MOTION.

THE DEBATE ON EARL RUSSELL'S MOTION.
HUMnLIATIEG POSITION OF THE UNITED STATES
Two TOTTERING ADMINISTRATIONS MAX
ING DESPERATE sHIFTs-GEN. SCHENCKS
LETTER.
tFRoM THg REGULAR C CORRESPONDENT OF THB TRIBUNE
LONDON, June Sat last we have touched
bottom; az any rate do not see how We can get much
lower Ough IL rash 20 hazard an opinion witlout
knowing what Mr.. Grant and MI Fish and Gen Sehenck
may have IN store for They viii long time be-
fore they reach tho level OF Thursday The past year
has at Different times, exhibited the United States Gov
eument a good many attitudes which were not dign
ned but the spectacle Of Thursday surprise even
to those who had watched il most closely painful
anxiety 10 save the Treaty Of WASHINGTON has been
shown in many a dispatch from Mr.. Fish ana many
note from Gen Schenck IN all Of these however, they
were dealing with the Government Of Great Britain, and
though il is not good diplomacy to betmy 90 much so
hcude 20 come terms with your adversary, our COM
municaiions kept within diplomatic forms. But the
event OF Thursday has no precedent You win look in
vain 60 ind the weakest Government, Portu-
gal. or Peru, Belgium hertcf intervening 20
check q debate lu the House Of lords That is what Gen
schonck aud Washington authorities, OF whom he is
The mouth piece have thought it consistent with the
dignity Of the United States Government 90 do Eail
Russell summons the United states to tie bar OF the
House Of Lords TO answer an indictment don't sup
pose Earl Russell with all his arrogance supposed he
should get the offender there in person OF by his attor
ney he cha rged us in substance, with hsneerty and
trclncss with dishonesty with bad faith. with making
n treaty we did 10 keep, and with making an
appearance abandoning the Indirect Claims IN order
20 keep them in reality before the Tribunal ana gets
verdict on them, get verdict IN which they should
belp 10 swell verdict awarded on other grounds When
Lord Russell made similar speech, three weeks ago.
did not think il worth noticing in newspaper let
ter | sad nothing about it The English journals re
puda ed bm But when he returned 10 tie charge this
week the American Government thought 1t needtnl TO
mt IN an answer. Last July we declined, and
notice Of Lord Granville's declaration in the
House Of Lords that the Treaty, then Just about
60 be ratified excluded the Indirect Claims TIE House OF
Lords and the speeches made In II, are nothing TO us
Jbey have no Official relation 20 the Government at
washington, or 10 any department OF II. But we
have changed all that. II has no jurisdiction
over the ITeaty-Over this Treaty or any other
tn r has Jurisdiction Gen. schenck, and Mr. Fish
and President Grant They all three IN fact though
NOT iu name partes to that extraordinary letter OF
vbie n en- scheDek is the signaary, and which Lord
rauye read TO the House Of Lords on Thursday even
ing ~, tho s.ere which oeouyred on the presenta
ZION OF the letter. describe It dramatic" was not
present bat have no doubt the epthet is 1T They
omit 20 say TO which department Of the drama belongs
10 tue intelligent foreigner, from neutral state, It
Nigh, be comieal enough Lord Granv e's talents for
.. .ht comedy are undenabe. Cen schenck Is better
suited would suppose for the more serious walks OF
The stage and might on occasion, shine as ." heavy
father" For this night, he assigned part which
Tbackeray might describe one IN which plush Dreeehes
would properly have been worn. For the whole play we
uigbt borrow POlonuss description, and cau II
the historical pastoral Lord Granville
Wa stage manager. Pit and galleries were well hlled
INT the piece In the bills to give way to an I'M
prou,ptu representation that had been carefully re-
hear.ed In private. The lights were rather low and
when LORD Granville who had spoken at length on the
revions evening fOrwa ard the spectators did not
Rnow what 90 make Of his temperance When he had
read Gen schencks letter. scene OF some confusion
followed The Lord Chancellor rose az II to deliver the
speech FOR which the debate had been adjourned on
Tuesday; that only part Of the play what was
che debateg debate motion Of Lord RusscHs
r1ng the for that all proceedings
ON behalf Of Her Majesy's Government before the Arbi
tratlon al Geneva should be suspended until the Indirect
Claims had been withdrawn. There was, however,
another Government able 10 give Lord Russell better
assurance on that point than Her Majesys Government
eoud aud that was Government OF the United States
The Government Of the United States getting
y teBgraphic account OF the debate on Lord
RgsseFs motion directed its Secretary Of state
90 authorize its Minister at London also by
telegraph 10 say that considered tho New Rule hna
stlement Of The Indirect CLAIMS Gen Schenck takes
occasion 70 add sor himself that be concurs with Lod
Granville IN The view that the new AIiioe ~ tamchm