The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-05-15
PENNSYLVANIA.
Programme OF tho Liberals Fore
shadowed-Grant 70 be Defeated by the

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all times politic-to adopt without a murmur the
drift OF public thought, and chime in with the ma
jority, whether his personal views coincide with
their actions or not and prove to his constituents
tnat the things that be for the best interests OF
all concerned, even when he has striven for days
and weeks to bring about an entirely different
situation. In o word, he must manifest an adapt
ability to circumstances and be at oil times open
to conviction. The chairman OF the liberal republi-
cans OF Pennsylvania has not always shown this I'M
questioning belief la the wisdom Of his coworkers,
but he has In other ways proved the possession Of
many essential requirements necessary to political
success The HERALD letter OF few days since, In
which your correspondent characterized Mcclure
as 'the best dsorganizer In the State has, In all
probability, awakened him to the fact that an entire
the dlscordant elements In the constituency over
which he holds transient sway There Is no
better proof OF this fact than the subjoined
interview, had o day or two since. 1t occurred
to me that an interview with Mcclure
would assume, In measure, the character
State better posted Its political feeling or more
competent TO foreshadow coming, events, provided
certain policy Is adopted than this same disorgan
izer. Politics with him has not been 80 much
study looking to financial results as q passion
looking to the ful1lment Of grand projects. With
mixed with the highest and the lowest, studied
their feelings and desires and has always remem-
bered: me interview requested was oheerf9!iy
nished. tsu
AN INTERVIEW WITH M'CLURE.
was aware that he went to Cincinnati with ideas
totally different from those entertained by the
majority OF the Convention, and was DESTROYS of
drafted by that Convention Of political archi IL
tects and with little ado asked
How are you satisfied with the work Of the Gin
MCCLURE--I was not OF those whose oounsels pre-
vailed In the action Of the Convention. Two lead
favored the selection OF the candidate known to be
most acceptable to the democrats; the other in
sisted upon nominating the man who could COM
mand the largest republican strength. favored
the first named policy, which confined me to Davis
and Adams, and supported Adams, who was the
prevailed in the Convention, and Mr.. Greeley was
undoubtedly the man to fill the bill. At the time
doubted ae wisdom Of the policy that controlled
successful, 1t promises overwhelming success while
the other policy regarded as making union Of the
all doubts as to success. But the developments OF
popular feeling since the ticket has been before the
policy That prevailed at Cincinnati; and now doubt
whether nomination suggested by democratic
rather than republican favor would have met the
present emergency. There would have been but lit
tie republican enthusiasm for either Davis Adams
while large majority ofthe republicans OF the nation
REALLY PREFER GREELEY TO GRANT,
last ten years nearly Or quite onethird Of the re-
fuy satisfied with the action OF the Convention,
and believe that the very best nomination was
made that could have been made
win accept the Cincinnati ticketp
MCCLUkE-AsI have said, had little hope Of
the day the ticket was made but now am entirely
whsle South viii demand it, and the West is deci-
dedly for It. New England will be divided. Penn.
Democratic Convention, and the democrats OF these
States have too much OF stake to commit sui
Se sober "a nep
people will surely decide in favor OF Greeley to over
throw Grant. There Is an important State ticket
tn nj onA thn nto rNrlt ~
State for some years to come is involved. In add
ton, the control Of the Legislature involves the
Cameron, and the Constitutional Convention will
belong to the successful party. union Of the OPP
ponents Of Grant on national State and local tick
cts would carry everything by sweeping maorities,
State ticket Congressman, Legislature and Conven-
ton, and thus transfer every department OF power
selfish and arbitrary rule. This was done in vir-
ginia Tennessee and Missouri, and viii now be
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES would be the political
McCLURE-it is hard to tell just what the future
and other tickets will not dissolve the democratic
party. It will maintain its distinct organization,
he prefers 10 be politically. Il Will Of Course end
and the future Of parties viii! depend upon the
wisdom with which the successful men shall govern.
The union will be for the success Of vital national
principles on which liberal republicans and demo-
continue to act and to succeed as "'D'N p'o'a'''
"LIBERALIzED DEM0CRACY,r IN FACT,
with all the errors Of both the old parties buried in
the past. The nation must have peace 1t must
have relief from carpet-bag governments, oppres-
sion, military rule and Capitalization. 1t must have
universal amnesty and the supremacy OF the civil
law, and 1t must have some measure OF fitness and
integrity In public officers To accomplish this men
to act past differ
win give to the country the blessings Of free govern
ment and tranquility.
CoRREsPoNDRNT-If Greeley is accepted by the re-
pnblioans how would Pennsylvania vote
McCLuRE-0reeley would carry the State by not
would ~ an@ vans
der around making ghostly complaints. Some
would fall into the Grant camp, a few fossil wings
men OF both parties would give such majority as
has never been given before In our state.
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES the democrats should
nominate straightout democratic ticket what
would be the result2
McCLURE-Then the unwise leaders would be just
what they ought to be II governed by such madness
-hewers OF wood and drawers OF water for another
decade. The most they could do would be to throw
the election into the House, where Grant would be
elected by large majority Of the States, and they
would drive both branches OF the republican party
| siderable number OF people would continue to fol-
low such leaders, and reorganization Of parties
would Immediately follow Grants reelection. Let
me assure you that the fnture OF politics Is with the
men who wear party collars very loosely in both
| parties just now.
coRREsroNDENr-Do You expect Greeley to carry
the Southern States, generality
THE SOUTH UNIT FOR GREELEY.
MCCLURE-The Southern States will vote almost
unit for Greeley or for Grant. II Greeey's elec-
ton is possible he win carry every State South ex-
ceptlng South Carolina and that will be doubtful n
triangular contest comes, with no reasonable hope
ofliberal republican success the South will vote
, for Grant. The Southern people are impoverished
i5fostre..ed and crushed under the iron heel cf mill
tary powell and II they DO Not see the WAY GEAR 70
throw OF the Grant yoke, they will do the only
thing left for .ham conc!llate the oppressor They
dare not allow Grant &c be elected over them.
/ CURTIN's POLITICAL PREFERENCES
CORRESPONDENT see that Curtin is reported as
| for Grant, Is 1t correct2 ~.~i>s-..
| MCCLuRE-GOvern0r Curtin has made no declarA-
I tlon on the Presidency, nor Is any authorized
! to speak for him. His resignation was sent to
| Washington fully three months ago, and he will re-
turn home In July to stay. Until he speaks for him.
self upon the question no one can assume to commit
him. You can rest assured that he win not be in
| different or silent In the contest, and when he
| speaks he will speak with power
CONSEQUENTLY there any truth in the story
that BOrle went ont with power to tender the favor
Of the administration to him II he would enlist for
! Grant, IS s.Naa NMIsI - II
McOIuRB-I do not know nor care. Governor