The New York herald., 1872-12-01
The Reply Of the English Historian to the
Criticism Of the Dominican Friar, at
Association Hall, Last Evening.
FRouDE's ANSWER TO HIS CRITICS.
The Figures Of the Father Controverted-
Historical Precedents Questioned-A Study
Of the History Of Ireland Invited-The
Irish Peasantry Praised and the Irish
Demagogues Despised- Charge
Of Irish Cowardice Denied.

Mr.. Froude delivered last evening" to large and
appreciative audience, In Association Hall, reply
to the recent criticisms Of Father Burke on Mr..
Froude's course Of lectures on Ireland. Shortly
after eight O'Clock o number Of gentlemen repre-
sentative OF the clergy and aty OF the city, pre-
ceded by Mr.. Froude and Mr. W. f. Dodge, entered
the han and took seats on the platform. Among
these were DR.. Bellows, DIR. Gillett Professor
Hitchcock and DIR. B0ttome.
Mr.. Dodge occupied the chair and brieny intro
duced the lecturer.
, THE LECTURE
Mr.. Fr0ude said =
LADIES AND GENTlEMEN-If my object in coming
subject may SO far be said to have succeeded. 1
have succeeded also beyond my expectation, in
elciting cOnnter-statement containing the opin-
ions OF the Irish people themselves on their past
history, the most complete, the most symmetrical,
the IN most thoroughgoing which has yet been given
The successive positions taken by Father Burke
have been long familiar to me, some in one book
and some In another. But nowhere have so many
OF them Deen combined so artistically, and
not till now have they been presented In
what may be called an authoritative form.
obliged him to reopen wounds which he
would have preferred to have lett closed l con-
healed so long as there is Misunderstanding Eng
land and Ireland can approach each other only on
the basis Of f.. truth ana nd 50 long as Irish chill
they must regard England with eyes Of utter de,
testaton until full atonement be made Tor past
wrongs. II Father Burke's account is true let
England know II, look 1t in the lace and acknowl-
ge a IT, i oe an or aat tissue sue Of ason
laid across the gulf that divides u.s. A subject
from the platform, If the audience will bear their
share OF the BURDEN II they viii test by reference
what they hear, compare evidence and anayze it.
You will learn more from the books to which shall
refer you than you can learn from me IN the time for
which will address you. shall myself venture to
indicate the particulars where Father Bnrkcs nara
ton specially needs examination, and refer you to
authorities. That an Irishman's view should be
different from an Englislman's view is natural
and inevitable but the difference must nc limited
by facts. which are easily ascertainable. When
they are not ascertainable elsewhere as, for in
stance, when Father Burke attributes words 10 me
with authority.
WHAT MR.. FRoUDE HAS COME TO AMERICA FOR
must throw Oft with point OF this kind The
Father says have come to America to ask for the
extraordinary verdict that England has been right
In the manner in which she has treated Ireland
for seven hundred years. Considering that
have drawn heavier Indictment against
England s1 IN the course Of my lectures than she
have described the history OF her connection with
Ireland from the beginning as scandal and re-
a simple denial. Father Burke goes on to
suggest that England is decaying empire,
the ays OF New ar
far or, that England Is afraid OF the growing
strength OF the irish in the United States, the
Old Country and the 1400O,00O OF Irish de-
scent. 1t IL scarcely becoming for two British
subjects to be discussing in this country whether
Great Britain is in state of decadence. England
is afraid, however, and deeply afraid. She is
afraid Of being even driven to use again those
measures OF coercion against Ireland which have
been rlc shame OF her history.
FATaER BURkEs FIGURES A LITTLE OUT.
me. Or the 42000,O0O OF American citizens,
% 900 were either Irish born or sprung from
Irish parents. Was this possible referred to the
census OflS70, and was still more cOnfOunded. The
entire number OF immigrant foreigners who were
then in the United States amounted to 5,556,566.
or these under two millions were Irish. The
entire number of children born Of Irish par
ents was under two millions also. From
these figures it follows, ii Father Burke is cor
rect that in these two last years there must have
come from Ireland no less than 5000 600 persons or
more than the entire population OF The island, and
have produced not fewer than u 600, 900 infants. /
knew that their fertility remarkable, but was
not prepared for such an astounding illustration OF
it, loud cheers.)
THE IRISH DEMAGOGUEs DEsPIsED.
But Father Burke considers me unfit to speak
upon this subject, ana for three reasons First
Because despise the Irish people. despise them
do IL Then why have 1 made Ireland my second
nomeY f,on,o Why Why am am here = nowf Am finding my
various reasons have peculiar and exceptional
respect and esteem for the Irish pcople-I
and am endeavoring to serve them. say the
peasantry. tCheers.) For Irish demagogues and
political agitators-well for them, yes, confess
do feel contempt from the bottom of my soul.
u.oud cheers.) / rejoice that Father Burke has
dscaimed all connection with them. or all the
curses which have afflicted Ireland the demagOgues
have been the greatest.
HOW CATHOLIC HISTORY is MADE
once more: Father Burke says am unfit to speak
Of ireland because hate the Catholic Church. I
show my hatred, IL appears, by holding the Church
answerabIe for the crueltles OF the Duke Of Alva
nj QuHQ md for fhn
OF st. Bartholomew's Day in France. Here
is what the Father says on the first OF these mat
uprising against the authority OF the state II the
rebels happened 70 be PrOtestants there Is no rea-
son son to father their blood upon the Catholics" !
way in which. modern Catholic history is
comp s,1s a. ana o.. you may may see from Y
In the national schools, II Catholics have
the control OF the text books Cheering, loud and
long long contiauedl Father M Burke himself perhaps
he never heard OF the edlcts OF Charles the
Fifth. BY those .edicts, which were issued AT
man Convicted of IN holding ing t heretical ais opins.
ions was to lose his head. II he was
obstinate and refused to recaa he was to be
who concealed heretics were liable to the same
penalties as the heretics themselves. The
the Episcopal Sna anaer shem
In that one reign, the Prince OF Orange
who was alive at the time, and the great Grotius,
-
cion of exaggeration, declares that no. less than
hfty thousand persons were put to death in cold
blood. l have myself expressed a doubt whether
these numbers could have been really so
large; but better judge than / am, a man
totally untroubled with theological proposes
sions, the historian Gibb0n, considers the largest
estimate to be the nearest to the truth.
don't ask you to believe me, ladies and gentle
Grotius; read the Prince Of ORANGES
apology: read the pages OF your own Mr.. Motley
And then because the Netherlands. unable to en-
1ure those atrocities, rose In arms to drive the
q nfr ho nntQ QnfA mn
10000 more OF them; they are only
rebels The Church is innocent or their blood.
THE SLAUGHTER OF THE HUGUENOTs.
Father Burke, In like manner, declares the
Church to be blameless for the destruction Of
The French Protestants. The Te Deums that
we're sung at Rome when the news came,
he says, were for the safety Of the King,
and not for the massacre OF the Huguenots. |
indeed Then why did the infallbe |
Pope issue medal which was stamped |
sbages slaughter OF the Hugue-
nots Why was the design on the reverse OF