The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-05-02

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requiring roll OF delegates, lay and clerical to be
kept by the Secretary OF the last General Confer.
Certificates Of election and Proceeded to cali the
DR.. Harris was then unanimously elected secre-
Bishop JAMES made reference to the plan adopted
by the last General Conference for the election Of
lay delegates to the present Conference, and an
! n0unced that the Bishops report was ready when
ever called for The report having been called for
Bishop Simpson read simply the action and votes Of
| the several Annual Conferences thereon-namely,
4,s45 for, and 1,5o7 against lay delegation.
DR.. JESSE I. PECK offered resolutions concurring
In the action OF the Annual Conferences and admit
ting once the lay delegates elected by those Con-
Dr. NEsBrrr offered a substitute recltlng that the
Conference now complete the charge in the Second
resentation Of lay delegates, but that the plan
under which they shall be admitted shall be referred
hereafter for revision The substitute was laid on
| the table, after which
DR.. C0wLEs OF Iowa, called for division OF the
to amend the rules and aiterward decide upon the
plan OF action with the lay delegates. discussion
arose on this point In which both sides were freely
represented.
DR.. PERRINE, OF Michigan, opposed the division,
because it admitted the lay delegates. He was
making speech against the plan, but was cut
DR.. BINGHAM, of the Black River Conference, Of
fered substitute for everything before the Confer
ence, but on motion to table withdrew it.
Dr. WALDEN, OF Cincinnati moved that In the vote
DR.. OLIN asked whether this vote carried with it
DR.. CURRY Analysed the resolution upon which
the vote was to be taken, and showed that a divi-
part must be adopted by majority and the second
by two-thirds VOTE
The vote having been ordered, was taken by yeas
and nays DIR. Curry asked to be excused from vet
ing but the Conference by vote Of 152 to 1856, de-
clIned to excuse him The Doctors position as the
which this whole matter has been ably discussed
and his well known
OPPOSITION TO LAY DELEGATION,
gave Importance to his VOTE. He thereupon en-
phaticaly voted no. The total vote stood 27s yeas
N Godfrey ssw indiana
| Hill, New Jersey, and jacques, OF Maine.
made to the other par Of p was
acommttee, but pending action on 1t DR.. Kynett,
OF upper Iowa Conference offered substitute call
under the plan adopted by the last General Confer
ence. DR.. Peck's paper looked to their admission
without regard to that plan.
DR.. CURRY, of New York East Conference, said that
the action OF the Conference just taken had created
certain number OF seats to be filled by lay delegates,
and that all that is now necessary to be done is to
call the roll and let the delegates present their
denttals, and the Conference could Judge Of their
admission or rejection. He moved that this be
DONE
DR.. MERRILL, of Ohio, agreed with DR.. Curry, save
In the statement that seats had been created. They
| were now acting under the old constitution, and
cannot ,t create seats except by provisional plan
references could be stricken out.
DR.. Currys motion was declared out OF order,
being substitute Ers for OF ns substitute ).
too late to bubble over the plan, since the change
In the discipline had been perfected, and he there
/ DR.. PERRNE, OF Michigan, opposed the plan; his
Conference had voted against IT, though 1t had voted
minutes SCIENTIFIC essay, which had no bearing
whatever on the questions but as he was irrepressl
BILE the Conference allowed him to talk against time,
and thereafter laid Dr. kynett's paper on the
| table.
DR.. CowLEs then offered a substitute for DIR.
Peck's paper but this went the way OF Dr. Ky
DIR. PECE's RESOLUTION
| was then read, as follOws:-
eral Conference for lay deiega hereby declared to
ae an re nna % se LAY
seats IN the General OF the Methodist Episco
Randa on 'hsif credentials now An the sserearys
division OF this resolution was also ordered, and
the first part was adopted by vote Of 2a2 yeas to
SO nays. The second part was then adopted by a
vote OF 279 yeas to nay-Dr Perrine having this
honor. He declared eternal hostility to the plan
and the admission of lay delegates under 1t.
The list Of lay delegates was then called, and at
its close DR.. BINGHAM moved that the first order OF
committees, and that the delegates come prepared
TO make their nominations. No action was taken
thereon, and after several announcements had been
made the Conference adjourned till nine A. M. to-
day.
The Laymen's Address to the Ministers.
The lay delegates met In the Washington street
Methodist Episcopal church at halfpast three
O'Clock p. NJ.
Mr.. OLIVER HoYr called the meeting to order,
and nominated Judge Grant Goodrich, OF Chicago
for Chairman, who was unanimously chosen. Pro-
lessor William Wells, OF Union College, was elected
| Secretary.
! DR.. STRONG, OF Drew Theological Seminary, ex-
planned the object OF their gathering together. In
view OF the events OF the morning he said they
Il OH hau
meeting with their ministerial brethren tomorrow
to-day. great days work had been done In the
General Conference, and he thought the laymen
were called upon to make some suitable acknow.
Judgement OF the magnanmlty Of their ministerial
brethren In admitting them to seats and equal
privileges in that body. He, therefore, suggested
that committee OF three be appointed by the Chair
to draft appropriate resolutions expressive OF their
sentiments, in view OF their union with their minis.
teria brethren
The roll was first called after which Professor
Strong, Senator Harlan and Mr.. Beale were ap.
pointed such committee. They retired for fifteen
minutes, during which the delegates INDUCED in
mutual introductlons. When the committee re-
turned DR.. Strong reported an address, in substance
as follows:-
THE LAyMEN TO TIE MINISTER'S, GREETING.
The address sets out with statement that on an
occasion SO momentous as that which has brought
together the lay and clerical representatives OF the
Church something more than passing change OF
relations and greetings is due to the gravity and
responsibility OF the hour and to the character OF
the ecclesiastical adjustment which has led to II.
They therefore deem It important to place on per-
manent record this expression OF their sentiments
and feelings. And FIRST OF all they thank
God for the harmony which has character
ICED the Church and that so little. acrimonious
controversy has prevailed In effecting this funda-
mental change In the government OF tho Church.
Seldom has there been such q surrender OF power
by any body OF men who have 80 long welded IL, or
80 much modesty manifested by the body acquiring
II. Ithas been alleged that Meth0dism has W tho