The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1872-06-29

Light house. Lahaina. $500 Passed. Expense OF
Lighthouse. Hilo. s4OO. Passed. Expenses Of
Palace. SlOG. 600. Motion 70 strike cut. by the
Hon Mr.. Kipi. for the reason that he was opposed
to mourning q large debt, and he tho1ghtthe Palace
could be delayed two years longer.
His Ex. the Minister OF Foreign Relations stated
that it had been thought desirable to build the new
Palace on the present square, a portion Of which
belonged TO His Highness Lanaliio. with whom neg
citations had been had tor the purchase OF his IN
terest. Ii was preferable to build there for obvious
reasons. Negotiations had not succeeded with the
Prince. ~uRtiF1ast May, when he had consented 10
convey his lot on reasonable terms. Now. the adj
miniStTat!on Is ready 20 go on aud build the palace.
and It was thought that 100000 would Ice The sum
requisite. Toe present House was IN extremely
bad repair-in fact. ii Needs 4 neT roof. q new noor,
aud new walls. 1t Is not il 81 house for The resi-
dence of a private gentleman.
Hon. Mr.. Carter thought that 800 900 was too
large 4 sam to ask of a population of So, 900 inhab-
itants for the building of a Royal Palace. Next
session probably $4,000 or even 100000 more
wonlk be asked TO finish the palace. don't be-
lieve that if built His Majesty would live in it.
Hon. Mr.. A. F. Judd said that il We go on in this
way the reign OF kamehameha V. would be like
that of a Roman Emperor, who found Rome "a city
OF stone aud lett Il a city of marble. II we could
do this without a debt, it would be well enough,
that we could say, His Majesty found Honolulu a
city OF wood and left it a city of concrete. He
thought that ia the present state of our finances we
were not justified in devOting this sum to the pur-
pose. More especially as there are public i'm
provements. such as "a new steamer, that are call
ing for money. Undoubtedly the palace when
finished wonld cost q good deal more than this sum
now asked for. Objected to creating a debt. not
only on our own shoulders but on those OF posterity.
Pending debate, the Committee rose, and the
House adjourned. -
FoRTY-SEyENTH DAY, June 25th.
Hon. Mr.. Rice from the Committee on Commerce
reported in regard to a petition from Lihue and
KOloa, Kauai, praying that a steamer be run 10
Kauai. recommended that the petition be considered
with the item Understand steam navigation Re-
port adopted.
Hon. MIR. Kaukaha read for first time a bill to re-
peal Sec. Z { Chap. Is, Penal Code; passed to second
reading and ordered printed.
Hon. Mr.. Kaiue introduced a resolution to the
effect that the members be furnished with more post
age stamps. Hon. MIR. Carter moved to amend by
adding. !" a night-cap and feather duster." Resolu-
ton rejected.
ORDER OF THE DAY.
Proposed amendment of the Constitution of 1864.
That Art. 23d Of the Constitution be repealed. Lost,
by a vote of 19 to Is.
Bin to authorize loan of Gle, 900, in Committee
of the House. Hon c. L. Judd in the Chair. Mo-
ton made to indefinitely postpone further considera-
ton Of the bill.
The Minister of Finance spoke in favor of a motion
to pass the bin. This Improvement is not one OF
questionable value. Let il not be thought that the
hotel will be a lose, most of the business men of the
town are of the opinion that the hotel will not be a
loss. The business has paid from the commencement.
z tbC hACAhO~Ao DN1A NoAS 80 AN-AN 4AS aNA1OSA
from Honolulu wish to reduce the public debt, so
does every member of the House. What is the pres
emit debt of the Hawaiian Treasury ? SIT 900 i;
and yet it is not the debt. The Hon. Mr.. Mikalemi
need not be troubled by the size of the debt. l think
1 have proved to him satisfactorily (by counting
money on hand, bonds, &C.. as cash) that the debt is
but $50, goo. Hon. Mr.. Mikalemi seems to think
that we are bound to keep in debt ; four years ago
we were out of debt. The Treasury is not pilikia,
nobody is pilikia except Hon. Mr.. Mikalemi. How
did the present debt originate? The first money Dor
rowed was $4,000 for Water Works. l would
advise you all to take care of yourselves and let pos
terity take care of themselves. If Hon. Mr.. Mika-
lemi wishes to have the public debt extinguished, I
can do it by selling the WGter Works, and have a
surplus for the hotel. The salaries have been said to
be a very large proportion of the income, about 81
per ce (. l don't figure that way. L make 1t $780,
o o. If there il any great disproportiOn between the
amounts appropriated and the income, it is the fault
of he representatives themselves, being due to the
increased sums asked for hospit Is and sanitary
measures. This loan will not make the country at
all pilikia, no new tax will be required TO pay the in
terest. l can provide for it comfOrtably-so far from
being troubled about i'll think that the event will
prove that the loan will pay itself.
Hon. A. F. Judd said that he was surprised to hear
that the ground on which the hotel stood was gov
eminent property. If this was the case, the bill was
sheer nonsense. The second section says that the
property will be transferred to the government ifthe
bill passes. The speaker had seen the deed of the
property and it conveyed the land to c.. G. Harris
and j. Mott Smith without any reference to them as
trustees or ministers. The speaker did not believe
that the Ministers would make anything in the trans
fer. The two gentlemen who hold the deeds of this
property have done perfectly right in securing this
PROPERTY to themselves. If under the present man
agement-Which l have been assured by some of our
leading merchants shows that the person to whom it
has been leased for five years does not know how to
keep n hotel,-if the hotel pays, | would advise them
to keep the property as a joint stock enterprise. I
have been classed with those who approve this laying
out of money for public Improvements, l begleave to
say that l do not belong to that class. When | read
the report of the Minister of Finance l understood
that he was of the opinion that the enterprise was
too large a one for private enterprise to undertake,
now he comes befor: the House and urges US to pass
this bill because the hotel will pay. II this is the
case those who advanced the money had better run
the hotel, and net try to saddle the people with that
strange anomaly of q hotel run by government.
Hon. Mr.. CArfer wished 20 express his thanks
for the appreciation felt by the Minister OF Finance
for the representation from Honolulu. l differ
with nv colleague in attributing the paternity OF
this bill to the Minister of Finance alone. From
some of its features | am inclined to believe that
it is as much an offspring of the Minister OF Foreign
Affairs as of any one else. There Is a cloud
hanging over its early days-(Mr. Harris" What
business is 1t of you what happened in my early
days." Hon. Mr.. Carter. The early days of the
bill i referred to.p) Its early history should have
been so well known to the Minister of Finance as
to prevent him from misleading the members The
Minister of Finance had said that public notice
had been given of meeting. 1t was done by
printed notices sent to a favored. few, the tax
PAYERS were not invited, only capital. 1t was
agreed that a subscription paper should be drawn
up by which those who signed agreed to pay into
the treasury the sums pledged by them ; and it was
agreed between them and the Minister OF the lnte-
rior that a committee should be formed. Now
occurs a remarkable fact, the Minister of the lnte-
rior disappears-goes down through a trap door.
The Minister of Finance agrees to issue negotiable
bonds of the Government. What are negotiable
bondsf legal bonds. The enterprise was not a
private one-it was undertaken by the Govern
Inent, and Mr.. Harris stated at a meeting of the
subscribers that the Government had resolved to
push it (the hotel) to completion. The FIRST idea
was, l believe, to have a hotel costing some so or
500, 900. The feature that resembles the Minister
of Foreign Relations is that having called a meet
ing of the only ones in this community that L