The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-05-17
vssx IN resaa u KIs conversation with M. Cas-

vl6X. III result u Ms 6onversation with Mr.. Cas-
seTly was Q nrm conviction on his part that while
the matter might not be made strict party ques-
lion, sufncient opposition would be provoked by
the public efforts Of the administration TO array
NEARLY ALL THE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS AGAINST IT.
Mr.. Schurz does not hesitate to say that he Is
opposed to 1t for patriotic reasons, and Is OF the
opinion that the vote will be very close. Mr.. Pat
terson, OF New Hampshire, like Mr.. Osborn OF
Florida, and Others who are opposed to 1t, is also
very free In his
DECLARATIONS AGAINST THE SURRENDER
Mr. Ddmunds, who has been reported against rati-
hcatlon is cautiously reticent, a fact which gives
rise to the suspicion that his well known craftsmanship
may finally induce him to come out frankly in its
support. His record is TO the contrary, but the
appeals of Mr.. Fish TO the treaty, and thereby
save the administration, win have great weight with
MN. IL have not yet considered the matter with
SUFFICIENT carefulness to make public any opinion
regarding the subject" was the expression used by
MN to-day In reply to q question regarding his
status In the premises. 1t ID safe to put him ION
the fence Mr.. Sumner Is nat-footed and unusu-
ally blunt In his determined opposition to the
measure. He denounces it as
TRADE BETWEEN FISH AND GLADSTONE
to save Gladstone and Grant He characterizes 1t
as the result Of the consultations OF a mutual ad-
miraton society," which held its communica tons by
cable at the expense Of the two governments. lie
thinks the
Johnnie, Johnnie, tickle me, DO;
You tickle me, and I'll tickle You
principle Ii apparent at every step OF the negotia
ton since the telegraphie correspondence CON-
menced Messrs Thurman, Bayard vickers, and
Hamilton, Of Maryland are the only democrats
who are
SUSPECTED OF FAvoRIHG THE TREATY,
and 1t would be an act Of injustice to each one of
them to say that they have reached final con-
clusion in the matter Messrs. vickers and Hamil-
ton, however, are amenable to the influences
brought to bear to-day ny Reverdy Johnson,
while Mr.. Bsyard n under similar Influences,
urged through the Baltimore delegation. Mr..
Thurman never has been very ear
nest believer in indirect damages, and is
understood to have made q speech against them.
or those who have seats on the republican side OF
the Senate, and who are believed to be ready 70
join the opposition, the following is not complete
but, 80 far as 1t goes, correct ltst -Messrs. Pat
terson of New Hampshire; Logan, Sumner, Ferry
Of Connecticut; Schurz, Chandler, Carpenter, o.
born and Gilbert. or course Messrs. Chandler
Carpenter and Gilbert, earnest believers In the in
fallibty Of the administration, may yet be induced
to support it. The Widest cOniecturee are maas
10 the result and innumerabe polls Of the Senat
have been made, the majority Of which show tina
the repaired
Two-THIRDs VOTE WILL NOT BE FORTHCOMING.
Even the friends or the measure are in aoub
and edmit the result viii he close.
In Che House the feeling is most Overwheimingl
against ratification, but the administration mem
bers have lately toned down their denunciations
| General Butler, however, declares that nothing
| wocld delight him more than the defeat q
| the proposition He uses his well
known arguments against the old treaty, and say
that II its failure could be accomplished by reec
| tion OF the amendment the result would justi.
the means. General Banks IL non committal; but
! Is well known that; with the republicans who ar
opposed to It and the democrats, there is majert
of the Foreign Affairs ComDittee Of the H0us
against 1t, but unfortunately they have no voic
| In the matter.