The morning star and Catholic messenger. [volume] (New Orleans [La.]) 1868-1881, 1872-08-18
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that we quote them, and II our nelguDoF mas
not the facilities of verifying their correctness,
posal: sGtt34nis r.; s.-r-. @t! '-aosi .ss 81
In order to add tothe happiness of our
+ contemporary, we waive for the present, |
several i'm pOrtanti questions-and accept |
their invitation, which, we suppose, 10 as |
making it. .s9 pTaEE '.. p: Il tat.
i We: therefore, deny their statements,
and ask for tho promised faculties for
verifying their correctness" For instance:
/. They tell US, that Augustine has said
! Roma locuta, cause 1SRsta est- 'tt
Il We deny that he ever said so, and de-
: manl that the paragraph in his writings
where it occurs shall be given in full, and
J that we be informed precisely where it oc-
T ours. f---3;-I i..frE -" 4" 70 -
; q. They say that Tertullian; has said Of
II the Romish Church., that it is the place
"whence authority, emanates,"' and that
: the Pope is 'sSummusP ontifex''- vereign
: Pontiff. sfo'' 'o L,.C- -, r.. = 80
r We deny it, and demand that tbs AckeA=
;. passage in which each phrase occurs, be
: produced, and identified. -. ri. - e.55. i
: 3. They say, that Origen writes: Soon
slider what must be the power and author'--
. ty of Peter, the living rock upon which the
Church was built, that her decision should
:, be as unalterable as though God had spoken
y Through her" 0Tt.l!u ~. q J.. IT,. tJ,-s -
q We deny that he said SO, and demand
that, the ss0hole passage be produced, and
They tell us that Irenaeus declared
. U;All the Churches must depend upon the
- Church of Rome as on their source and
- head.n 7'.It is necessary for all the Church
y hes to come to this Church, in which the
'e Apostolic tradition has always been kept
Of intact by those who are in all respects
: faithful" --z;s----
10 We deny it, and demand that the com :
I'd plete passages be produced aud identified.
,g In reply to our denial that Augustine
u said hemG loc,tta, eaasa taaita lest, they re-
= ply, that the passage is to be found in his
ID .SermoFde Verbo Aoostoloran,: :. -" -
at Weaccordingly take down the works OF
es Augustine as edited by the Benedactihe
Apostolorutn, )" and what do we fnd e We
al find, that there IL no such "sern,o inSgH his
it arritfngs. ," The phrase has evidently been
ts. invented for tile occasiou If any com nai
:. tee of gentlemen desire to examine this
IT point, thiscopy of Angus the is at their ser:
- We also find THAT verbunt, in the singd
ar lar, isyused by Augustine to Designate, the
.. incarnate Second person; Of the Trinity
er, the Word. SO he says .Verbum Del, thu
it Word OF God No one acquainted will
10 the phraseology Of Augustine, would bs
-, 49, likely to charge hi N WITH such phrase us
ID Verbum Apostolornnh." "'i ."'hl
up h Many Of our readers are aware that Au
itos gustfue aid preach sermons on the say ing
- 4 of the APOSTLES, and tIi,tttHe tftlS 6T suci
40 dscourses Is Sernto de ee,6fs Ap6stofi, etc:
aerna on On ahe 1xnrds Of the "A pns&les and
g.. Augustine say that wien he speaks Of III
. tsuggesS that perhaps our cote nhporary hat
IA this title IN view when he gives us that re
gn markable Latin Bat Is It probable 'AsJ
ial one acquainted with the writings OF A6
Of mot be likely to speak Of H'ihis se,nso de Ger
es- bis Apostoli"; as if there were but one ser
- mon with this title, for the simple reason
.. that there are nearly forty of such sermon mo
it Thsse1 discourses are wen Known ami
he widely circulated. Some Of them are TO b
he found on the shelves Of almost every frs
class Protestant bookstore. Is 1t singular
or rs It characteristic, that these. lou,
it7 champions of einfa1libilfty, who profess 4
ed draw their strongest arguments from thes
nd writings shouid be ignorant of their con
tents of their usus loquendi, or phrase
olo2yLabd even of the very titles oter'res
ow we'll known productionsa '-.h' 90 AZ
ds.s} But We do not complain at finding ignor
= ance and dogmatism to be boon Companions
o"s Why should wei It is natural that 1
the should Be SO. Men may be honestly ig
led norarit and speak unadvisedly in conse
- quence. But If they are, honest they wi
d :, acknowledge tie mistake when pointe
All out. New Orleans las nc. high reputatio
- among strangers, for morality. Yet W
IN. venture to say that no man can possess th
:. respect of this comm unity, who to couces
AZ his ignorance, resorts to deliberate false
en- hood. And when our cotemporary tells u
~. the so-oalled words of Augustine are to b
-, found IN F'this sermo' dc Verbo Apostolic
its rum - tfey compel as to ask for IN expls