New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-03-20

O. Then why should the General order business as
conducted, not he disapproved OF by men VINO % ,ncr
through one line much "a the othert n ine 'ni
chants as whole, suppose, are opposed w 'o "0"
O. Thai the merchants as a whole are opposed 70 the
General Order systemi A. Yes, Sir, ana az 'hcy "''
O. You stare that Won have present Al nearly tne
whole Of this investigation by this Committee ortion
York the greater porto, OF ~ area, deal Of it when
had nothing else TO do would walk down from NY
house Ia the Fifth Avenue Hotel . T., orr rooms I
q. And spent "A good deal ot your UNIV III '"'
~ T'knc great deal Of interest Mr.. Murphy ~ toe
,r3crcss 81 ,be .Xaminatonl A. had nothing eise W
do at the time Of course tnat was natural roulrInr
s G. The fact Did NJ you have stenograpuo report
made Of all our proceedings \ uu NJ r.o uliss
O. VINO had that done \. believe MI George h'NS
o. Did Mr. Bliss represent you in any way before That
Coinmittcei 4, No Sir.
O. Was he employed by you A. No. sir ,,,o,c, H..
O. DO you know by whom Mr liHs, Wis M =" ,,
fore that Committee \. do not think he was en-
O. He spent his time there. did he not. with You
O. Was there even oitoner than youl n believe ho
was. ,, in, w T.,
q. Was he in frequent consultation with You y,
thc committee ROOM with regard 10 matters that trans
spired IN the Committee 4. We had great many con-
ver.atious about he evidence.
O. Can them consultations or conversations, II was
conversations in regard to the testimony; "a, lrsI 6 re-,
ports madei 4. heard So 800
o. Did you not sec thcmi \. did
o. You saw them believe \. believe aierWarn
saw them. .., 90. -
Now sly who did Mr.. Bliss represent there 70 Your
knHwledeol 4. I suppose that he represented the
Republican party there.
senting the Republican party A. think heard nm
say so, once. ,.,, , r,t 81.
O. Is mat your only means Of knowledge \. Well. II
Won ask me what other MEANS can answer '"" 'i"'
O. sirl A. II there are any more direct means wish
o. The means are very good hut are those the only
meansl will ask YOU if thar is your only means 81
tbc Republican party attend the sessions Of this Com
mttec. and have stenographic reports maze H. pro
ceedingsl \. That is the way understood ME- Bliss 10
O. Is il rom lin That You have your knowledge on
'6' ~ = fro, h1 Won have Your sole knowledge on
tlSt subccti H. ! NAV have talked with dozen other
i q Who were tGeyi \. may have talked with Mr.
q Vas Mr. Cornell one Of those who was represented
l,y Mr. Bliss 4. lie is one OF the Republican party!
= VA M ar. 'ticofI T. may have talked with lIr
Latin, and l may have talked with Nh George
O. You say You may have done 50; do You mean these
gentlemen spoke 10 you in MI Bliss presence, as rep
a aware that Mr. Bliss there 10 detect any evidence
| thai was false, and TO have it corrected
,D D@ MT BIS 2Sf Gtc the %,o
do not think So hut he may have zone so; tla j. IN
puhcanS and he was PM lnele a. their r.Iesenaivei
O. SRI i. They were not al Republicans; believe
{
@ You don't think he represented them \. They
o. BHline The time OF your presence in that Commit
tccroom did You not very frequently srs,t names to
WITNESSES \. / do moi think did, SIR.
O. You did not! l. may have talked about evidence.
G 3nf E GP B E Sesaf f the c Questions
g. You and he talked them over beforehand! A. Wei,
a. Wti. We know Il great many men who sometimes
can be- Very -hrcWd, aud Who are MOI lawyer. y. With
regard evidence 90 not pretend 10 he an expert al
g. Not at all; but did Won sitting in that Commit
tecoom suggest 10 Mr.. Bliss questions 10 be asked vii
ncse. or directly suggest them 10 Senators upon that
side who your political friends \ don't rccol.
ect OF any may nave Gone So bN' "oh 4e'oec 81
e. Did YOU suggest the name, of wituese. TO be called
q. Sra A. so Sir.
O. You were present at Mr.. DE Camps examination,
and xaned before YOU ana stated the ey
ca il yOul 4. To rccollect IT, 1t would be necessary
o. WhG did Won say Do Camp turned ont Of oGicn'
What reason did You give for il A. The reason gave
for it wa, a contest that occurred IN the General Com
O. Vow that General Committee Of the Republican
party! A. The Republican party.
O. What was the dlfHcultyl A. \ discussion arose
there Sr with regard 10 adding, think, Secretaries,
there were two secretaries 60 each organization ana u
different Assembly Districts in the civ and County OF
Ncw-York resolution had been offered to add the
fctarir- aud make them also Inspector or at least To
The same a. the three inspectors appointed hy the Ircs-
dent winch usually the case; there were parties in
favor Of that and against IT. one side was III favor and
q VbiCh Sidc dd Mr. De Camp take, do you know
A. He was opposed to adding the secrctareS or AT
least his representatives IN the General COMMITTEE
o. lie opposed that and you fayorclii! A. favored
O. Wa. his opposition to that the of his REMOVAL
q. Because he chose 10 take that ground in his own
Committed A The papers at that time dl'cn..ed he
New-YOrk at the first meeting the resolution was
carried secretaries were added subsequent meet
ing was called; IN that meeting great eloit was maue'
and those who called the meeting were IN favor OF re-
pcalnC that clause. resembling that resolution which
permitted the secretaries TO ne Inspectors ~ la meet
Ing Mr. De Camps friends, believe, favored the re-
scudng the resolution. the difficulty being nat The
Democratic party, with NJ. Tweed at the head Is We
are al informed incrleTed =, vi,
O. Had hIr. DE Camp any connection with Mr.. Tweed
AT all A. 1 suppose the report was at that time
favored those who were for repeating the resolution.
O. How do you mean favored them! \. Wei, 10y
promising all kinds of patronage and everything Of that
Kind.
Q. Did you consider the connection with Vim. NJ.
Tweed or any man in that party; or charge against
TO disate him and turn him out Of Office which he
was eompetent Otherwise 10 n o a, me COMIC ma
Tweedif there were Republicans one OF Whon obeyed
Twced's orders and the other would not should GER
taiDy give the office 10 the one who would not obey
IWced's orders.
O Were not your own relations with Tweed Of an ex-
ceedlngy intimate and confidential nature! A. No, Sir;
they not.
o. Were not NOufSlf engaged largely lnlea estate
specuatons with Tweed Connolly, and Peter u. SWeeny
and A. I will furnish the other name, Smith.
O. Who elsei A. That is all
O. Were you largely engaged and intimately with |
them in large and important real estate speculation!
A. No Sir: made purchase Of real estate in which
| gave Mr.. Hugh smith All interest," made purchase
OF blocks; Will state that if you will allow me;
shall make statement III regard to that purchase!
q. As you tit want 10 find out your relations with
those parties! A. That's what / want 10 give you In |
full made a purchase from Andrew II. Green of two
blocks ground from James Lennon, situated between
ghth aud Seyentcthsts. and Madison ana Fourth
in fln( M -NnrL ffer hav
that property went immediately TO GOV Morgan to have
hun Join in it stated the whole purchase him with
the terms and conditions and opinion OF the pnr.