The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-02-08
The British Commissioners Aware
of Our Full Claims.
Animated Debate On the Alabama Claims
In the British Parliament.
an Irish Members Description Of the English
Army, Navy aud Treaty with America.
PREMIER GLADsT0NE's HOPES.

Our complications with England were the sub. |
Ject Of general conversation to-day, both at the
Capitol and in the departments, but no new points
were evolved. Congress did not touch the question
In any way, thereby disappointing the junior secre
taries and
ATTACHES OF THE BRITISH LEGATION,
who fitted about the corridors all the morning,
and were early in the diplomatic gallery Of the
Senate, anticipating renewal Of the debate on Mr..
Edmunds' resolution. The general belief that the
Vermont Senator has come to the conclusion that
not call it up In the Senate for some days. When
the proper time arrives 1t Is understood that q
movement Will be made looking to the
REPEAL OF OUR MARITIME RECIPROCITY LAWS,
30 far as Great Britain is concerned and an effort
viii be made to secure the enactment OF discrmi.
mating duJies and o tonnage tax. General Butler.
with whom the Treaty OF Washington has never
been favorite document it Is said, sure to oner
such resolution If Great Britain persists in her
present course or shows disposition to withdraw
from the Geneva Conference. In conversation to.
day General Butler said the difficulty between the
United States and England is q very plain one. We
presented q case which we
AGREED NOT TO PRESENT
ana England objects. This Is also the view Of
some Of the democrats but few OF the latter are so
pronounced In their opinions Continuing the con.
versaton the champion Of the Massachusetts fisher.
men set out his opinions at some length. declaring
that the claim for consequential damages ts strong
one. but our members Of the Joint High Commits
sion
FRIrrERED AWAY QUIZ RI0Hr TO PRESENT IT.
The terms and implications Of the treaty are that
only SPECIFIC acts ana specific damages can be con.
sldered; and "to show you, he said, that this is
no opinion after the fact refer you to my Phade.
phis speech last October. England says she is
satisned with the treaty." he continued ''but not
with oar infringement OF its terms; and while ON
q much opposed to England as any one yet be-
lieve we nave no legal right to present such
q We have prepared and presented We cannot,
Of course, withdraw or modify 1t now, ana
WHAT WILL BE DOME BIZ ENGLAND
remains to be seen. In regard to Summers views,
Butler said the facts are that Senator Summers
opinions embodied in his speech upon the Johnson.
Clarendon treaty we're entirely ignored in making
the Treaty OF washington; but those views have
been rehashed In the case presented to the tribunal
what will be the result Of this disturbance no one
can tell; but
THERE WILL BE NO WAR.
England can never be driven into conflict with
this country, no matter what comes Of this discus.
sion.
SENATOR SUMNER DIFFERS ENTIRELY
from the views Of General Butler, and though not
bellioose, Is calm and determined. He LOOKS the
whole issue In the face deliberately and firmly, and
said to the representative Of the HERALD
s'whatever IL put forth BY the Queen in relation
TO the demands OF England and discussed by the
Prime Minister becomes very grave subject; very
grave, sir. whatever may follow the present agita.
ton no one can tell 1t Is matter Tor conjec ture
only The idea Of asking the withdrawal Of the
case Of this country is novel one, and, Of course,
can never be thought Of BY this country. 1t would be
DARrBR1NG AMERICAN HONOR AND DIGNITY.
II We have weak case falacious case fool
ish case as Is alleged. the place to show It before
the Geneva Tribunal. ana there only. what action
may be taken by the Committee on Foreign Rela-
lions cannot TELL az have not the honor Of being
q member or that committee, put they may investi.
gate It and report upon it to the senate. What ac-
ton they may take cannot tel, but they will no
doubt discuss 1t with view to preserving peace
and harmony, but firmly and without the willing.
ness to forego any OF our rights and privileges. The
question Of consequential damages consider
BY NO MEANS WEAR ONE.v
The Senator declares that he still adneres 70 the
principles laid down In his speech In the Senate on
the Johnson-clarendon Treaty.
M opiaiops then.n he ears, "sre mr. opuioua