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The Louisiana Democrat. [volume] (Alexandria, La.) 1845-1918, 1872-03-27
WOODS HOUSEHOLD MAGAZINE,

TIME Tenth volume of WOODS
i HOUSEHOLD Magazine begins
with January 1872. Its regular con.
tributors include Horace Greeley, Gail
Hamilton Thos. X. Beecher, Dr.. Dio
Lewis, Dr. w. w. Hall, James Parton,
etc. Harriet Beecher Stowe, "Buck''
Pomeroy, John G.. SAKE, Major Gener-
al Fitzpatrick, Petroleum v. Nashby,
write for it occasionally. Terms, One
Dollar year. In clubbing, three first
class periodicals are given for the
price of one of them. The most liberal
Premium List ever published. No pc
riodical is more frequently or favora-
bly, mentioned by the press. "Wood's
Household Magazine is one of the mon
uments of business enterprise which
mark TIL e oage."- Methodist Home
Journal, Philadelphia, Pa, HIt has
been improving ever since we knew it
"a good criterion for the, future
[Courier, New Market, Canada. at is
marvel of cheapness and first class
quality combined" New York Times
Specimen copy sent free to any address.
.'5a f@ s. S. WOOD & co.. 38
ia. H 81 .Newburgh, N. Y.
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A VERY SAFE SAFR.-There ia an
account in San Francisco paper of
a safe which an ingenious mechanic
constructed and declared to be abso-
lntely burglar proof. To convince
the incredulous of this fact, he placed
a one thousand dollar bill ia his pocket
had himself locked into the safe, with
an ample supply of provisions, de-
claring he would give the money to
the man who unfastened the door. All
the blacksmiths, and burglars, and
carpenters in the State have been
busy for a week boring and blasting,
and beating at the safe, and the man
is there yet. He has whispered
through the keyhofe that he will make
the reward $4,000 if somebody will
only let him out. Fears are enter
tanned that the whole concern will
have to be melted down in a blast
furnace before he is released, and it is
to pass in through the key
hole fire proof jacket to protect the
inventor while the iron is melting,
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M a N H GOD
a How Lost, How Restored,


JUST PUBLISHED, a new edition OF
- DIR. CULvERwELL's CELEBRATED rs.
pdsY on tile radiant cure of certain weak.
nesses, the effects of Errors and Abuses in
early life.
The celebrated author, in this admirable
essay, clearly demonstrates from thirty
years successful practice, that the alarm.
ing consequences of such errors and abuses
may be radically cured without the dan
gerous use of internal medicine or the an
plication of the knife; pointing ont a mode
of cure at once simple, certain, and effec-
tual, by means of which every sufferer. no
matter what his condition may be, NAV
cure himself cheaply, privately and rad
ically.
j U This Lecture should be in the hands
OF every youth and every man in the land
Sent, under seal, in plain envelope, to
any address, postpaid, on receipt of six
cents, or two post stamps.
Also, DR.. Culverwell's Marriage Guide"
price 25 cents.
Address the Publishers,
CHAS. j. C. KLINE & CO..
l27 Broadway, New York.
JAM silly. re- .5 alfgP. o. Box, 1856.
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MISCELLANEOUS.
HEARTH AND HOME +!
: 4
Issued Weekly {!
BEAUTIFULLY ILLUSTRATED
Full of interesting and valuable read
ing for
OLD AND YOUNG.
Is sued Weekly {!
BEAUTIFULLY ILLUSTRATED
A PAPER FOR EVERYBODY!

IHEARTH AND HOME, ISSUED
Ia every week, is one of the mosI
beautiful Journals in the world. I,
has twenty large pages, and a single
volume contains about $4,000 worth
OF splendid engravings, finely printed
and of highly pleasing and instruc-
tive character. 1t has, also, a vast
amount of the choicest reading, care
fnlly prepared, and full OF instruction.
With a moderate amount of rural in
formation for the FARM AND GAR
DEN, it contains excellent Editorials
on the various topics of the day, which
give the reader practical and useful in
formation. Hearth and Home has a
most capital HOUSEHOLD DEPART
MENT, which will delight and greatly
aid every Housekeeper. The Chill
DREN'S DEPARTMENT, edited by
Mrs. Mary e. Dodge, with many AS
slstants, is of surprising interest to all
the little people. The NEWS DE-
PARTMENT tells, IN a clear, con-
densed way, what is going on in the
world, so as to make the reader intelli-
gent without wading through great
mass of material. In short, it is a pa
per that will please aud profit both old
and young in every Home.
TRY TT A YEAR,
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FARMING AS A -BUsINEss.-The
following is from the Farmer and
Artisan. A man who is not smart
enough to run a store, is not smart
enough to farm. Farmers are not
to be made OF what is left after law
yers, doctors, ministers, and mcr-
chants are picked ont; and if man
fails on a farm, it is not likely he
will succeed in a store, for it re.
quires more talent to be thriving
farmer than to be an average mer-
chant. The one cause of great val
ue is the disproportion between a
mans farm and his capital. A far
mer's capital is skill, labor and his
money. If he has little cash, he
must have no more land than he
can thoroughly managed by his
own personal labor. Every acre
beyond this is an incumbrance; one
acre we'll worked is more profitable
than twenty acres skinned over.
1t rs this greed of land by farmers
that have not the capital to keep it,
that Keeps so many poor. Small
farms are better than large ones,
simply because they are suited to
the capital of common farmers.
Large farmers with large capital
are better than small ones. Farm
ing is good business for all men
who conduct it on proper princi-
pies, and have capital according to
the size OF their farms, aud bad
one for everybody else.
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NUMBER Sc.

ticipated in rebellion, how comes it
that on and from the 2lst of July, 1868,
certain classes of them are treated as
if still guilty, still amenable to pun
ishment, and still in need of pardon Z
July A John Doe is eligible to any
Office; July 81 he cannes become .
constable unless qualified therennto by
two-thirds vote , of each House of
Congress. How is this pas
The only answer can be that on the
2lst of July, 1868, the fourteenth
amendment became of force, and by
the third section of the amendment
disabilities were "imposed" on John
Doe. But why imposed7 Because ho
participated in the rebellion, and par
ticipation in rebellion is a crime. But
on the 4th of July, 1868, Doe had his
participation blotted out and all the
penal consequences of, that offence de-
moved. How revive that which is OBJ
'literated9 How punish when the
ground of punishment is gone 2 There
Is no answer to this; there can be
none. The fourteenth amendment ex-
pressly defines participation in rebel
lion OF rs crime, and then Furnishes
said crime by exclusion from Office
But who can be thus excluded ONLY
those guilty of the crime. And who
are gniltyf Certainly no man is whose
participation was washed away by the
amnesty proclamation of July 4,fls6s,
and made as if it had never been
Only to those whose guilt remained
unaffected by that proclamation does
the punishment for guilt ordained by
the third section of tho fourteeth
amendment apply. Neither Mr.. JEFF
ferson Davis nor the Tennessee man
can hold Office under the fourteeth
but all Others are, with
an exception to be now. noted, un-
affected thereby. The exception is as
respects Congress. John Doe if com
ing up as a Senator or Representative,
and met, when pleading his pardon, ;
by the statement that each Honse il
sole Judge of the qualifications of its
members, would have to submit there
to. By virtue of the. Constitution az
it was before the fourteenth amend
ment, that amendment can be made of
force as respects admission to Congr ess."
Otherwise than this, however, it can
not be lawfully made to apply. and if
applied there is remedy in the
courts. The simple plea is that the
of the fourteenth amend
nent apply only to those guilty of the
crime of participation in the rebellion.
md no man is. so guilty whose offence
IN itslef and all its consequences was
dotted out before that amendment
became lawn. Y. World.
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AMERICAN AGRICULTURIST,

AMERICAN AGRICULTURIST.
FARM, GARDEN AND HOUSEHOLD
Including a Special, Interesting and
Instructive Department for Children
land Youth. tIss
[EsTABLrsHED IN 1927
THEs American Agriculturist is a
I Il large periodical of ID pages, well
printed, and filed with plain, practical
reliable, original matter. 1t furnishes
every year Four Hundred to Six Hun
bred 8 '
BEAUTIFUL ENGnAVINGS,
Drawn and engraved by the best ar
fists, and about Five Hundred large
qnarto three-column pages of original
matter by the SIS. 4
BEST WRITERS,
Or as much reading as is tonnd in
FIVE LARGE OCTAVE VOLUMES s
Of five hundred pages each. 1t con-
talns each month a calendar of opera
tons to be performed on the Farm, in
the Orchard and Garden, in the Dwell
ling, etc.
1t is prepared by practical, intelli-
gent, working men. The
HOUSEHOLD DEPARTMENT
Is valuable to every Housekeeper. The
Department. for
Chill DREN AND YOUTH
Is prepared with special care, to furn-
ish amusement and to inculcate knowl-
edge and sound moral principles.
CIRCULATIoN-TE h circu-
lation of the American Agriculturist
(about 15O,00O is so large that it can
be furnished for the low price of SI.5O
u year; four copies for SIS; ten copies for
St2; twenty or more, 81 each; single
numbers, Is cents each.
wTRY IT A YEAR.
The subscription price of Hearth and
Home is So a year. One copy each of
American Agriculturist (monthly) and.
Hearth and Home (Weekly) win be
sent one year for 81, to which thirty
two cents should be added when the
papers are to go to British America.
- TRY THEM BOTH A YEAR. 81
ORANGE, JUDD & Co.. Publishers
2i5 Broadway, New York.
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PROFESSIONAL.
R. W. BRINGHURST,
Civil In gin er
-.E and
R4RZSH s U-R rE 7 OF
ALEXANDRIA. LA

ORDERS sent by mail, or left at r. C.
W Hetherwick's store will be received
and attended to.
Parties desiring to enter land in this
and adjoining Parishes can be satisfact ori,
ly attended TO.
Those who have lost their entry papers
of State or United States Lands and wish
them reestablished and Patents acquired
for receipts of land, entered before the
war also re-entering under the Homestead
Law, lands acquired after the 2Ist day of
February under the Confederate dispen-
satiou; locating Land Warrants, etc. /
will attend to upon application.
Jan. Goth, 1S69-tf
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INHE subscription price of the AME-
= RlCAN AGRICULTURIST, which,
is we'll known as one of the oldest and
best magazines in the world, for the
Farm, Garden and Household, is 81 so
q year. One copy each Of Hearth and
Home, weekly, and American Agricul-
turist, monthly, will be sent. Que year
for ST., to which 80 cents should be ad-
ded when the papers are sent to Brit
ish America. Address,
ORANGE, JUDD & co., Publishers,
2I5 BROADWAY, N. Y.
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NEW ORLEANS

NEW ORLEANS
WYE CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO
w the fact that we have now on hand
the largest stock and greatest variety of
fine class of
Gents Custom-Made Clothing and Furnish.
Ing Goods
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ever brought to this market. We have a
buyer in the New York market all the
year round; our material is bought exclu-
sively for eash-cut and made at our own
manufactory, and shipped to us weekly
We can safely say with such advantages
that we can keep constantly on hand a
better assortment, later styles, and sell
lower than other dealers in our line. We
keep very large stock of the celebrated
STAR SHIRTS, made expressly for our
trade, and do recommend them as the best
made, best fitting and most economical
shirt to be had. roo s.is
We feel confident that you will be pleas.
ed, especially with the quality and price
of onr goods. So ''''
We are prepared to take measures for
Business or Dress Suits, and Shirts for
persons wishing them made to order, and
to order any kind of goods in our line TO
be found in the New York market,
r. SPROULE s. McCOWN,
@e - ~ 40 and AZ st. Charles St.,
Mar. 6-3m ca New Orleans
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No. l2 Commercial Place,

BANGOR PENRHYN SLATE OFFICE
No. l2 Commercial Place,
NEW ORLEANS
pEST BANGOR PENRHYN, PORT DI.
ID nOrwic and Port MadOc STATES, for
roofing-by cargo or small lots, to suit
purchasers.
SLATE SLAB CIsTERNs-made a, v
size to order.
Hearth Slabs, Urinals for Railway De-
pots, etc.
English Ridge Tiles, FIRE BRICKS in
quantities to suit. 81 ID.
N B.--SLATINGco contracted for at home
or abroad.
Repairs to Slate Roofs will receive
prompt attention. s-
Wharf-Corner Philip, Tchoupitoulas
aud Levee streets. p. o. Box 1869. Mer-
chants Exchange. 1873.
We. ELLIOTT, Agent,
Pcactical Slater aud Slate Mason.
Feb 2l-lm.
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Including Special, Interesting and
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TRY III A YEAR
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1872-01-06
washington rs q Central Winter Resi-
denre.

The growing tendency seems more and more
pointing to the gradual establishment of su-
periOr and permanent advantages in this city
for q general first class winter residence. The
Americans are migratory and like change of
scene. To those who can afford it-wherever
they 60 in summer, fitting abroad, or to the ut
termost parts of the land-it is getting to be
generally agreed they cannot do better than
rendezvous here for the winter. Thus Wash
ington is gradually, and we think, surely form
ing distinctive metropolitan American char
acter. Perceptible centers OF Literature,
Science, Art, and Society arc already here and
are rapidly crystalizing. With the growing adj
vantages here these circles once formed will
rapidly expand. TIE great Corcoran Art Gal
lery will form an art nucleus for the
country. The Congressional Library, already
one Of the first-class libraries OF the world will
SO soon as the intelligent views of Mr.. Spofford
are carried ont, be the most beneficent and
useful The Smithsonian Institution, the Naval
Observatory, Coast Survey, photographic and
Signal offices, with other public departments,
gather here a body of scientific men of the
highest attachments, such are found collected
nowhere else in the country. Students are
coming here from all parts of the country to
the three colleges of the District, because of the
special advantages over educational institutions
elsewhere afforded here in the libraries, the
scientific collections, the Botanic Gardens and
Conservatives, the Government Anatomical
Museum, the Pleadings in the Supreme Court,
and the debates in Congress.
Of the attractions of Washington socially
nothing need be said, as 50 much has already
been written on this point. These attractions
must. however, be greatly increased as the city
II adorned, improved, and made equal in COM
fort and elegance to its natural advantages of
position and climate. For the first time i'm the
history Of Washington the city has streets suffi-
ciently well paved to allow of pleasure-drivlng
every day through the winter, and the brilliant
spectacle on Pennsylvania avenue of an after
noon Il foretaste of what the future will
show when the wealth Of the country shall
Ccngregate here, as il is beginning to
go, for its winter Newport or Saratoga
From the enumeration given in another column
of the number of writers who now make their
homes here, IT will be seen that Washington is
growing TO be literary center also. The num-
Der viii doubtless increase year by year.
Upon the whole, the prospect is that there
must gradually grow up here a central winter
residence, social, literary, political, musical
and scientific, which will vie with that of any
capital in Europe.
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1872-01-06

The New York legislature will have its hands
fun to straighten the crooked waysof Tammany.
and not the least of the trouble will consist in
squelching those we'll meaning but ignorant AMI
oyerZealOus members who obstruct necessary
legislation by all sorts of imPracticable schemes
Already sweeping proposition has been intro
duced to govern New York city. Brooklyn.
Richmond and westchester counties by commits
sioners, swallowing up all the municipal depart
ments-quaranrine. harbor masters, streets,
water, ire, health, police, excise, elections,
CHARITIES, correction and the erection Of build
lnss-kindiy taking the rule out OF the hands OF
the people most concerned and centering il in
the representatives from the rural districts at
Aloany. To be sure they could not possibly d.
worse IN the way OF misgovernment than the
rulers chosen by the free and enlighteped voter.
OF Uotham and its sister city, BROOKLYN: bur the
scneme Is not republican and not what l. wanted
WHAT Is most needed Is 10 have such checks on
All omeers who have anything to do with the
collection or disbursement OF the people,s money
and such publicity given to all papers and ac-
counts pertaining thereto, as 70 make IL impos-
sible for an ofcer to abstract any portion of the
funds without speedy detection. Honest men
may be elected; Ii Is to be hoped they will be;
but they should be subject to the same stringent
regulations as would be necessary IL they were
known rogues. Nearly all the recent schemes of
plumber, national and municipal, have succeeded
20 well only because OF the undue confidence re-
posed in men entrusted with pablic money.
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Markets To-day.

BALTIMORE, Jan.6-Vireinia .ixes, old. IS hid
consolidated, 53a bid, 81 asked W. Va, 20 bid 2l
BALTIMORE: Jan. 6.-Cotton buoyant low mid
olngs Na Flour quiet and weak. Wheat active
and hrm; Amber southern Sl.75sS1 So red, good to
prime q Sla5l7O Pennsylvania, 81 .6OaS IS
90 MN; White southern 67a7o; yellow southern
firm sis. Bacon steady: Shoulders Z; rib sides, s:
clear Tit ss sugar c1rea hams; u. Lard stehdy
NEW YORK, Jan 6-Stocks very streng and up
nearly one per cent Soyernments dull and heavy
So new. 81. North Carolina 8, "a; new, Is. Exchange
long, Oh; short, 90.
NEW YORK, Jan. 6.-Flour quiet and unchanged
Wheat quiet and firm. Corn quiet and steady.
LONDON, Jan: 8, 2p. m.-Consos closed at 92s. for
money, and ga for account Bonds Of 1862, 81 lS65,
old, 931s; 1867, 93s4; l0-4 9l7s.
PARIS, Jan. 6-ReRtes opened at Sc francs cen
times; closed at 50 francs ~ centimes.
FRANKFORT. Jan. 6.-Bonds opened at 96S for the
issue of 1862.
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The Weather.
WAR DEPARTMRNT, Qfkcs Ch,ef SieBai lMfa

WASHINGTON, d. O., Jan. 6, 1872, 10 a. m I
sfNoPsis FOR The PAST TwENTY-FOUR HOURS
Inc area OF lowest pressure, which, on Friday
msrning, was over Wisconsin and Lake Superior
hae moved southeas wardly, and is now lowest over
me New England states; the highest pressure over
the southern states has diminished somewhat; an
area OF low pressure, preceded by heavy rain and
brlsk easterly winds, has moved eastwardly into
Louisiana; the barometer has risen very rapidly
.lnce Friday morning oyer the northwest, with fall
ing temperature, extending its influence this morn
ing utheastward and eastward to the Ohio valley
and lower lakes.
PROBABILITIES The barometer rise quite ra pidIy
from Michigan utheastward ard eastward to the
middle and east Atlantic. with falling temperature
and PARTLY clear and cloudy weather. sasterly winds
increasing cloudiDess for the south Atlantic states
the area OF low pressure with cloud and rain, now
the diminish during the day over the north
west with easterly winds.
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Governmenf Securities.


,lBy fhe Western Unton 7tfssrapA Companyl
NEW YoRK, Jan. 6-First Board.-Io.u a. m
s. 6s: 1881, coupon. ll5ls 2Os, 81 coupon, lO9sl
e3s, "a, coupon, lG97s; SOS, 90, coupon, Ills.
oDs, new, IS, coupon, Ill: 5aOis, 81, coupon lI7i4
eDs Seoupon ,l12,S 10 4o., coupon 1895; Ourren-
cy os ll5is; per cent, 1895; Mariposa, =; Can
ton, IS; Cumberland. =; Western Union Telegraph,
ga; Quicksilver, 49,; Pacific Mail, 5sh; Boston
Water Power; Adams Ex press, 9Ok; Wells, Far
go a Co.'S Express, 5Sh; American Express, 50:
United States Express, 6I1z; New York Central ami
Hudson, $50 New York Central Scrip. aIx; Erie,
IA; Erie preferred, =; Harlem, Iiis Harlem pre-
ttfrtdi- Reading, ma Mich Central ll57i; Lake
SheIe Michigan southern ,9isi, Union Pacific Rail
lad 49, ,l illinois Central 49, Cleveland Pitts
burg. llt8; Northwest, 67si; Northwest preferred,
9h; Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinn att, and Indian
aPolls -; New Jersey Central, 100 old: Rock
tierred, sos; Wabash Western, 52st; Delaware
tSekawensa Western, io4 old; Fort Wayne, =;
Alton Terre Haute, -; Hannibal & st Joseph,
sa;3; Chicago and Alton, ~; do preferred, :;
Chicago and Indiana Central sz Tennessee SIS old
&c 90 new, tS%; Virginia 6s old 63; do, Consols,
g.; North CarOliha 6's, old, So ofd North Caro-
lima 6s: new, Is; Missouri ss, &ls; Central Pacific
Bonds, lGtx: Union Pacific LIST Bonds, @s1. Gold,
vs. rtpfzf
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1872-01-06

Colorado 10 out Of debt and has s55 900 in the
territorial treasury, and Yet her politicians are
not happy. Governor McCook is bound to be
in the isshion, and in his message clamors for
reform. He wants the grand jury system
abolished, thinks the Indians are occupying too
much good land, and desires that more stringent
..ws be enacted for the collection Of debts.
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ITO PIPE FOUNDERS.

OFFICE OF WAsHINGroy AouEpucr, Z
WASHINGTON, d. c., January 4, 1872
Sealed Proposals will be received by the under
signed until II o'clock on the rIRsr DAY OF FRBRU.
AIRY 1879, for delivery In the District OF Columba Of
and uarter millions more less OF pounds
of 80 inch and % inch Cast Iron Water Pipes and
Special Castings.
No proposals for pipes aud special castings will be
received except in the printed forms, which, with
and forms OF contract and any desired
information, can be had on Applicant IN person or
by letter, to 0. .. BABCOCK,
Major Of Engineers, u. 4. A,
Jane lot Chief Engineer Washington Aqueduet
Evening star. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1854-1972, 1872-01-06

The report on Wall street yesterday afternoon
SsW@c4o Of new government bonds weakene
both gold and exchange. Tho EreRtHg Pcss states
that q committee OF stockholders opposed to the
present Irie management has been empowered to
sSs l LSt eos kheiders IN this country holding So
worth in England, leaves .s3.0OO 900 OF 64NU Geo
Necessary 20 enable them TO Gust Fisk and Could.