New-York tribune., 1872-10-19
ENGLAND'S IRISH POLICY.
MIR. FRoUpE,s SECOND LECTURE.

SETTLEMENTS.
The English historian, James Ahtnohy
Froude delivered the second Of his course OF lectures On
tina Relations between England and Ireland last even
ing at Association Hall The audience was nery Il no'
ue A irre as that which greeted him on wednesday
night and quite appreoiatiye. The more Important
marta OF the lecture given below;
LADIES AID GENTLEMEN: The only remark that wish
20 mako trust not ont OF order in making it's
that observe very dstin gushed orator OF this city,
vhose name is as we'll known the Atlantic as 10 Is
here and whose speeches have often myself read with
very great pleasure and instruction, was pleased to
speak OF the Bull Of Pope Adrian, 20 which alluded IN
NV last eoture as being laundering English He."
rLaarhterl Well, II IL English lie, IL was Nor
man lie; and am sure Father Burke must have made
that remark with very great distress 70 himself being,
a. he is a Norman. OF very eminent Norman descent
There is no purer blood Ireland than THAT OF the
Burkes and think relieve his mind about the
fact OF Pope Adran's having issued the Bull Father
Burke viii have the kindness to lock into volume OF
papers lately published from the archives Of the Vi'
can by DR. Timer he viii not find that particular Bun
bat be Will fad letter from his successor, In when
Bun spoken Of. and dwelt upon as the only OASIS
Of the authority which the English exercised IN Ireland
am quite Father Burke viii have great pleasure
In doing that. [Laughter
HENRY TIE EIGHTTFs IRISH POLICY
In my lecture described the Norman conquest oI
Ireland nal result Of it after three centuries OF
universal anarchy have now to draw your attention
accused Of attempting whitewash-Ring Henry the
Frhtb the English Bluebeard! II Is astonishing what
accusations people Will allow themselves to make. In
this place, happily have nothing 70 do with King
Hcury's matrimonial relations, but have only 70 deal
with him as an ElgHsh sovereign. he a hater Of
disorder and determined, II possible, to end disorder
IN Ireland He sent the Duke OF Norfolk over
TO invite the Irish chiefs to friendly con
ference. He wished, ne said, 10 proceed with sober
ways and amiabe persuasons founded IN law ana rea-
son. rather than by strength and violence he dlo
mean 90 force the Isl to submit 20 the Englsh law
st less did ne wish Z, deprive the chiefs OF their lands
and hertaEBs He sought rather 20 conserve them IN
their OWL to gain their assistance IN reducing Ireland 70
duist They had laws Of their own II they would exc
cute them he Norfolk point 70 them how wretch
ed they had made their country. There could be no
order aal prosperity he said until the sensualtes Of
an unbridled people were brought under the law.
In this respect any rate he must be allowed TO have
moderate. No remoustrance could have been more
gentle The step he took was harsher. You have
probably heard Of Irish absentee have never gone
near their estates lived away from them, and simply
senpied themselves IN consuming the rents which came.
For the modern English statesman there is nothing 30
property. It was proposed at the beginning
the century attach tho rents Of the absentees ana
there Immediately great ouDcry al over the
country but KING Henry the Eighth took an entirely
different view He simply in one sweep took away the
estates Of gentlemen and gave them TO others II
was conlscaton, but eonfscat0n OF kind heartily
wish shore was more OF. [Applause.l
oBsTISACY or TIE IRISH CHIEFS.
Neither this however, the persuasiOns OF the Duke
ofEorok produced any effect upon the Irish chiefs Iley
preferred their ways and intended 10 keep them
The Engishman who wrote the description OF Ireland
read in my last lecture had stated very correctly that
the deserving OF the people in the country were
lie recommended, nothing else should serve mat the
peasantry should be armed and drilled ana 1iegIii i
their masters u just 10 t1em. wish u had been
adopted. 1t would have been best ln every
vav and would have amounted the establishment OF
an Irish police three centuries sooner Bnt IL Vas WAS
% @ Pv =, nae ae-ed as police 10 have established
avs and compelled rich ana poor 10 obey them But
England did not Ike TO pay taxes 70 malntaIl @ 5anj nj
armies Of this kind The Duke OF Norfolk sad ne eouId
do nothing without military force OF some KIM 20
King henry was driven back % trying home rue IN
an0 form. There was az Earl OF hl'Ie, tue n.eu
OF te house OF Geraldine He was exceedingly popular
with tic Irish peOpe He promised TO do All tnat Mas
the Government to BIN, aud so this method was
tried. Bat the Geraidlnes aIt4Ot-n III & A ,o Ir5sb
much like other people ~ Ireland, were more rls
fau tho Irish themselyes The rule OF the Ger4ldlnes
was simply the rule Irish ideas that every one was
% do as he pleased ana me Stronger Strong L va" va 49, J re
the weaker Everything, then went on as DelOrs. 49,,
Kind Henry, with al hs known weakness was GIql-
eric sort Of gentleman at times. BY heaven = ne
seemed say, THIS people WiA p0t le4Il sAeL Ioso
and sent 70 London, and few companies were sent over
70 Ireland and now {3eTe comes one ~ ag o5 f Kde
iT Jy insIrTrcfi0u ana called upon al help him.
Ne beran v tie murder Of an archbishop. There was
q great deal OF satisfaction at that aud everybody ~a5
in arms, and there shouting and hurIahIe, anu anu
burning OF villages and massaceTIng Of people, anu an
tDd m iasted urtn the English Governor landed with
a few hundred soldiers, and then the parlot army JIa.
melted away Like snOWdrltt LOrd 1hOinds' Win uFo
- - rncies was executed this business. When
nobeman is 10 the schOd the eyes O al men Ens
out Ike RIVERS and the shout OF Indignation RISES IAe
meaner muIa5uuo s+ 1y 1en VaDiTd fruiv arc nest
ABSURD beings their Judgment II yO'lS 'oIo9 "lhu
IN keep tbeir heads on shoulders JnJ 1lht 4~t
~ @8tler areLbishops Applausel But the ns bad
orue when a new element about 70 Dc lulIOuu-s4
no The quarrel between England ana Ireland
THE REFORMATION As A DISTURBING CAUSE
To certain minds especially the IeutOnlc minoi the
Catholic religion had become Incredible. Before the
Norman Conquest Irelands devotion to Popery had been
at least lukewarm Heury the Eighth, when he broke
with the Pope had LETT standing so that the re-
e1ous services remained uDaered. The Irish bshops-
am speaking OF the bishops OF Henry the Elghths
ne aud not Of EiZaheths time-OresWOre the cat and
eok tbe oath to the King without any difficulty. That
rhey afterward took the oath ~ EZADeLn y an eute
fTnsiOu but it is perfectly certain that they did
go Henry tie Eighth. There many hundreds OF
eouVents and a1Deys ia Ireland IAe hlhg GlssolFed
Ir and fe lands were granted away the irish hefs
f1 Sai,,ion 'Iuf tnat time had snguaTly easy
huth chief prelate. Some OF JLe usops hau laiSe
faUiles Thev were lax set; very unlike the yenera-
te gentemeu whom we are accustomed 10 see IN snch
stations Between them and the Lhty tAeIe we no
special affection. Fhe young Lord hluare etanuS ~
of the Earl his iOtles burned cathedral He
was called 70 account afterward: be Jasest
ny l0rds," be explained e0ula NOT naSs donS 10
lIaughter change coming IN these matters Dub
i1 had moi come the days Of Henry the Eighth Inc
i,e On Food terms HIM. grand Parliament was
held m Dublin. All seemed weu dlspOseu tCWAu LII
Gland 30 10 this time the Pope had been the actuai
eyeTga OF Ireland aud the kags Of England had rued
IL only the POpe's Ncegerents AT tAS IaIdlloLi
was q. elared hencefOrward the King Of Ireland Inc
Celue leaders came inJO power -, r-,-h.t
For sOme reason or other, King Henry the Egnth
seemed please the Irish II Is hal 70 sS N4f
WA BECAUSE sey ielL thai he meant 8e4 D5 tAe- u