The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-07-26

terview was brought about by myself and not
sought for by Mr.. Greeley. In 1.-THE only one
ever had with the liberal republican candidate
there was not any reference TO rebel soldiers pen
slons or coalition or conditions with the democracy,
with whom ON l have not acted for years, and for
have stood aloof from politics for fifteen years.
WALDO HUrCnINs.
HERALD Observation-Disclosures about Waldo
Mr.. CARMIcHAEL-I do not know, nor did ever
see to my knowledge Waldo Hutchins. Even In the
case OF these gentlemen the New York Times Las
furnished dish OF falsehO0d only fit for gudgeons
TO swallow. 1t is strange your city papers should
parent nonsense. hesitate to refer again to the
editors in Bnphamt0n and Oneouta, who have
deliberately falsided.
MEN WILLING TO FIGHT.
HERALD REPREsENTATIvE-lun understand the state
ments relative to this alleged ''intriguen and cor
respondcnce with democratic leaders to be ground
less.
Mr.. CARMIcHAEL-As lar as l am concerned
know nothing OF such Transactions. and believe
John at Oswego, and saw J. II. Ramsay, President
OF the Albany and Susquelanna Railroad who said
there was any movement on loot to put The Grant
to lthica ana saw Governor seymour, in the latter
part of November 1871, and was kindly received ~
him at Deer1eld.
GOVERNOR SEYMOUR AGAIN.
There was no friendship, acquaintanceship, or
anything OF the kind existing between Governor
presented myself to HIN few months ago, he
probably did not know such person as am was
IN existence. MY credentials were that knew his
reputation and standing as patriotic statesman
and national politician, and | desired to consult
with him as to the public welfare. Profoundly I'M
pressed with the belief that If portion OF the
publican party, consisting OF its best wisest and
most influential members were anxious to cut away
from the rottenness of the Grant gift and family
concern, and were also In sympathy with the de-
hoped there was some prospect Tor the
South and for the North becoming really united.
hear or debate with me. The latter was opposed
to any intercourse with the democrats In De-
cember last. went to Governor seymour
reason to think that Greeley was the best man for
Chief Magstrate In the country had not been
candidatdre was an unhappy matter, because 1t
was sectional, and believe it was Calhoun who
said that when this occurred tie country was lost.
WHAT GOVERNOR SEYMOUR SAID.
Governor Seymour stated he did not desire to
walk over the line but there was one thing he
disposed to change the administration the demo-
cratic party, as lar as he knew, was willing to treat
them fairly and take no advantage Of t.e move
ernOr remarked there were besides him other
prominent republicans such as Trumbull and Chase,
who would be acceptable to men of both parties.
before or since, which gives any founda-
tion for the false statements contained in
ing and stupidity echoed by the New York Times that
Governor seymour, through me, or through any
no e w Mr. as g e sa at Ba
tim0re. My first and only interview with Governor
Seymour took place in February last. There was
no reference made in my conversation to paying
wounded Confederate soldiers pensions, but the
Governor alluded to the gradual sOtening OF
passions and prejudices growing out Of the war,
and he remarked it seemed to him as If the best
men Of both parties were resolved to be no longer
quiet under the dragon and guard mounting
system attempted to be established for the govern
ment OF the country at Washington.
HERALD REPORrER-YOu understand, Mr.. Car
michael, am giving your own words, taking at
Was there any proposition to hold
A GREELEY CONVENTION IN OrsEGO COUNTY,
Mr.. CARMICHAEL-Yes sir. During the first week
OF January wrote to Mr.. Greeley asking him II he
would approve of holding q convention here in OF
sego county, to nominate him for the Presidency
informed him the republicans were in favor of the
Would lake no part in it, Mr. Greeley replied that
look, without reference to himself or his interest,"
to the general good of the country After this one
would think MIR. Greeley wished to have nothing to
do with me, except so tar as courtesy required.
STATEMENTS TO BE VERIFIED, IF NECESSARY.
HERALD REPREsENTAITvE-Will you please state
in potical afTars since October last
Mr.. CARMICHAEL-ln the first place desire to
give the most positive contradiction to the material
portions OF the statement published In the New
York Times, and quoted from the BinghamptOn
paper II necessary can verify what say on oath.
mour, Horace Greeley and Waldo Hutchings, as far
as know Is the work OF some INSCRIPTIONS person
and of persons needless of the responsibility OF
OATH l addressed many leading men, as did MIR.
Greeley. as l saw their names In the newspapers,
who were announced as going as delegates TO Gin
cinnati, and to whom was unknown. l wrote to
Mr. Fenton, urging Mr.. Greelcy's merits, but the
Senator never replied. wrote 70 Mr.. Hutchins, as
well as to many others whose names l do
not now recOllect l received about five let
tiers from MI. Greeley and three nom Cover
nor Seymour during the past eight months,
all In answer to communications sent them.
They are not IN my possession. Being widower
and having no safe place to keep papers OF conse-
quence, l mailed them to New New YORK where they
simple business communications i believe that
only on one occasion did exhibit a letter OF Mr..
Greeleys to Mr.. Carpenter, and though may have
spoken among my nelghbOrs OF corresponding with
that gentleman do not remember OF ever giving
an opportunity to any OF the persons VINO at
than myself OF even glancng, reading or eXamin-
ing them; and, besides, my memory Is not bad
one.
PENSIONS TO REBEL SOLDIERS.
HERALD REPREsENTArIvE-Can you explain how
this matter of pensioning rebel soldiers cane to be
spoken about?
understanding OF curing the wounds of the war
there should be equal treatment OF the people,
soldiers and civilians, both North and South as we
honest people In the country believe, and Mr..
Greeley was and Is in favor OF healing the sores and
softenng the bitter memories OF iratricidal con-
test, where the fanatics Of the North We're as much
to blame as the chivalry down In the CarOlinds.
Your "Woodchopper" Is not saint, in my opinion.
AS | have said more than twice, Mr.. Greeley or Mr..
Seymour never mentioned this matter to me about
rebel soldiers, nor did to them. But however
much mistaken you and the HERALD may consider
u
aim or thought Is to make our people united,
and, If possible, to be relieved OF the
incubus OF Grant and his corrupt
and incompetent surroundings What Is
the difference between supplying a Onelegged or
inirm soldier in Southern poOrh0use and making
him the ward OF the nationr The expense to the
people Is the same. Who would pause in bestow-
ing food and shelter to q widow and orphans when
IN want because the HUSBAND and father fell bravey
fighting on the Rappahannock or Mississippi in the
lost cause No one; and there is besides, what Is
generous ana f0rgivng to be considered. The
people of the South are our brethren, who, having
erred paid the penalty. II we are to have o Union
let 1t be SO in fact as well us in name. Mr.. Gree
ley promises in good faith to bring about-and
the people up here believe him-peace and unity.
Grant and his Secretary of the Treasury desire to
keep the bloody chasm created by the war open.
As lar rs know in the country here such policy
Is rcpudated and finds no iavOf The republican
farmers OF the interior OF New York want 10 Join
hands and hearts with their sorell oppressed breth
rem IN the South.
The HERALD representative had to suggest to Mr..
Carmichael that he mad got the Chief points bear.