The New York herald., 1872-10-04
WASHING cTON.
Interview Between the President and the
japanese Envoy.
Mr.. MORI ON THE OLD FOSSILS OF JAPAN
Report Of the Rio Grande Commission on
Mexican 0utrages.
The Presidents High Opinion Of
the Bourbons as Allies.

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the Bourbons as Allies.
WASHINGTON, Oct. 8. 1872.
Interview Between the President and the
Japanese Envoy.
Mr.. Mort made an informal call upon the Presi-
dent to-day for the purpose OF introducing a
Daimio OF Japan who has just reached this country
by way OF Europe. The President shook hands
warmly with the Daimio, and said that ne was
always glad to see representative OF his nation,
to which his visitor made an appropriate reply.
After some further exchange OF compliments the
President referred to the late news from Japan as
given In these dispatches and expressed his ex-
treme sorrow at the threatening tendency Of
affairs. Mr.. Mori hereupOn alluded to the ac-
knowledged private source Of the Information, and
said that his own advces up to this time did not
sustain 1t, and he hoped within o few weeks to be
able to lay full intelligence before this govern
ment The report probably grew out of the
fact that tho retr0gresslonists or conservatives
have lately their efforts to restore the lost
balance Of power between themselves and the pro-
gressonists, who had gained q monopoly of the
government. The President remarked that the
progressionists appeared to be far In advance Of
public sentiment, which Mr. Mori admitted, re-
best policy was to admit the retrogressionists TO
their shape of power and assmilate them to the
progressives by education.
Mr. Morl next spoke OF the religious feeling In the
Empire, and here 1t should be remarked that he
himself Is regarded at home as free-thinker
OF the Ralph Waldo Emerson school. He
favors public worship as a matter OF policy
but is opposed to a State Church. His desire
to return to Japan is understood to be
inspired by view of laboring for the
religious emancipation Of his country as private
citizen In answer to an expression OF surprise
from the President at his anxiety to leave this
country, Mr.. Mort said that he believed in improve
ment and had lived long enough to know, as the
President had probably discovered years before
him, that In order to advance and improve, the
levers OF advancement and Improvement must be
directly applied. Japan for ages had been back
ward among the nations Of civilization but he now
hoped and believed she was entering upon new
era, the results OF which would In measure COM
pensate for what had been lost.
The President said that he sympathzed heartily
In these desires, and that Japan may be made a
close friend OF the United States with great advan
tage to both from the commercial relations likely
to be established between tine two nations.
Mr.. MOrt In CONTINUATION, said that he had sent
his resignation to the Tenno last January, but it
should be able to carry out his plans He had,
however, sent his commission back to Japan, with
the request that his successor be appointed with
out avoidabe delay; but he was unable to say
what the result would be, having no reply as yet.
The President next asked Mr. Mori, with much
interest, what his opinion was In regard to the
dictionary movement and received for reply that
Mr.. MOri had but one opinion, namely, that the pro-
gressive tendency Is irresistible; that ne had too
muck faith In the inherent force OF modern civ7a-
ton to believe that the onward march could now
be arrested; that he looked upon his country as
the rising OF the East, and that his government
was wise enough to recognize the fact that the
age is everywhere moving onward, and that, II
the progress of Japan be now hlndered, hundred
or thousand years hence would witness her at
standstill, the same Japan she had been In the
past.
The President hoped that his eloquent visitor
would not be disappointed, and the latter re-
peated his disclaimer OF any fear upon the subject.
Mr.. Mori was unable to confirm the reported dis
charge OF the Americans employed in the Japanese
service his latest advces about them being, in.
deed, OF an opposite character, and suggestive
rather OF additional honors than or disgrace for
General Capron and his colleagues The CONVERSE
tion next tarned upon the mission OF the Embassy
lately in this country, and passed thence to the
GER assisted by General Geo. b. Williams late of our
own Treasury Department, is endeavoring to place
somewhere.
Mr.. Mori said he would not conceal his dlsap-
pontment at the appearance OF the loan commits
sion In this country, and fully bore out In his re-
marks the statement of his position in these de-
spatches OF Tuesday. Indeed, the opposition of
himself and Mr. Iwakura, the Chief Ambassador,
then In Washington was no secret at the time, and
their best efforts were directed towards the en-
barrassment OF the negotiations attempted in New
York. Their own idea was to fund the floating
debt which the loan was intended to cancel by the
issue OF interest-bearing bonds, on the plan of
the United States five per cent loan, and thus keep
the whole business at home.
with regard to the two vessels building In New
York Mr. Mori informed the President that he had
great hopes OF naval marine for Japan which
would render her capable OF coping with her possi
BILE foes, and knowing that his sentiments are
shared by the hoI1e government and the Embassy
lately here he Is satisfied that the present stoppage
Of money is but temporary, and probably due to
such cause as would he liable to occur in the
transactions of well regulated commercial house
at such q distance from the base Of supply. He
looks for immediate rcmittances to 60 on with the
work.
Upon this the Japanese Charge dAfaires with
the Damio, who had been almost silent partci-
pant in the interview and who had evidently served
as a means Of arranging the opportunity for the
conversation with the President, retired from the
Executive Mansion. The Legation Is evidently
alarmed at the wide publicity given to the late
dispatches from here upon the internal situation
OF the Empire, and there is little doubt that the
Official dissimulaton which Is a staple resort of
Asiatic diplomacy is made a present agency In
counteractng or postponing the effect OF the dis.
closure.
Report OF the Rio Grnnde Commisslon-
Preventive Measures To he Taken.
The report OF the Mexican Border Commission,
under an net Of last session of Congress