The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-04-26
What He Thinks Of the Liberal Move
ment and Its Leaders.
SOFT WORDS FOR SOREHEADS.
No Hope for the Success Of the Cincinnati Ticket
Without Democratic Assistance-The Peo-
pie Take Broader View Of AZ
fairs than Politicians.

the LIST of May next, has created considerable eX-
element among the political friends of the Judge
In this section OF the State. Common rumor OF late
has placed Mr.. Tremain in the ranks OF the liberal
republicans but no one at all familiar with his
views as to what the republican party ought to do
at the next Presidential election has suspected for
moment that he had already pronounced" in favor
OF either the Philadelphia Cincinnati wing for,
with all his political liberalisms the Judge Is
shrewd politician, and knows well as the shrewd-
est how, when and where to keep his own counsel.
lie is, however,
A THOROUGH REPUBLICAN,
in every sense of the word and not exactly the sort
OF republican who would, If he knew it, do any
thing to help along In life the democratic party,
which he denounced from the stump during the
war, and assisted in keeping under after the war
was ended. called upon him last evening at his
elegant residence in State street, for the purpose,
If possible, of ascertaining whether or not he had
really consented to preside the deliberations
OF the Convention, and at the same time learn from
him Just
WHAT HE THOUGHT OF THE CONVENTION,
the men who gave birth to it, and It's probable re-
suits. He received me with his usual urbanity Of
manner, and after little general talk about mat
ters and things of no public Importance, referred
to the letter in the HERALD, and asked him if the
certainty, as far as he was concerned
The Judge looked at me rather sharply when
bluntly put this question, as though he was half
inclined to fatty refuse answer, at best .beat
the devil round the stump" in way that would be
perplexing to his inquisitve visitor. However, if
this was his determination, he finally ''chose the
better partn and frankly replied:-
"Wel, Sir, know great many Of my political
friends are going to Cincinnati. Many of them
are going there simply to see what Is to be seen
and hear what is to be heard, and q large number
of them intend to take an active part In the pro-
ceedings They have urged me to go with them,
and the Invitations coming from from, the men they
have, have been very pressing indeed"
Here Mr.. Tremain came to dead stop Feeling
convinced that my question had not elected all the
information to be desired as to whether the Judge
had acceded to the pressure" inquired:-
-, Pressure or no pressure, do you intend to go to
The answer came quickly and in determined
voice, efrectuay settling the question OF the Gin
cinnati Craftsmanship as far as MIR. Treman is con-
cerned:-
~ DO NOT INTEND TO GO,
and, as matter OF course, will not preside over
the ,,tnnvention."
"Haye YOU seen at any time approached on the
subject OF the Craftsmanship by any Of the liberal
republicanss"
.As said before have been very strongly urged
by many political friends whose counsel and advice
in the past have always had great weight with me
to go the Convention, and at the same time was
friends to make me the presiding officer"
'Now, Judge" asked after thus ascertaining
that he had not committed himself to the plans OF
the liberals, what do you think about the Cncin-
natl Convention ~
II hear great deal OF talk about 1t among my
friends, but am attending closely to my law
business that do not take much active interest In
politics. There seems to be large number OF very
good men in favor of 1t; but 1t is hard to tell just
now who and what all the men are from the various
sections OF the country who have come out In the
various published ''calls' relating to 1t. I
1tvans yI,ntn Iniv nf In fhn
conduct OF the men who intend to take active
part in the Convention, or in that OF the men who
were instrumental IN bringing the idea OF the Con,
their own opinions, and that If they are all actu-
ated by good motives-motves which have no
Interior object other than the welfare OF the cOun-
try-they have good reason to expect that many
good men will follow in their wake. do not think
that anybody can Justly impugn
THE HONESTY OF CARL SCHURZ
He has reached the highest position he can ever
hope to attain under the constitution, and he GER
tainy can have no personal ambition In the course
he has taken. The other prominent men engaged
in the movement, believe, are men OF worth and
ability SO, as to their taking the course they have
seen TT to take, repeat / do not think can COM
plain; bat then, after all, there are many things to
be taken into consideration other than the conduct
OF the promoters OF the Cincinnati Convention be-
fore a good republican joins their ranks.n
"And they are, Judger
gwen, / frankly confess that the present admin
istration has done some things which have not met
my approval, and which believe weakened 1t in
the eyes of many of the republican party. For in
stance, think that General Grant should not have
DISTINCTION AS BETWEEN rwo WINGS
OF the party in the distribution OF patronage. He
was elected by the whole party, and 1t was bad
policy to make more OF one wing than the other.
Then, again, do not think that he has done all he
might have done in endeavoring to harmonize all
the conflicting interests. He should not, in my
opinion, have made war with one to crafty the
OF or, and thus make breach that might become
d gerous. do not think that his appointment OF
8, il man as Tom Murphy to the COllectorship of
w York was very nice exhibition OF statesman
aiyf ne the Custom Hoss
Of its affairs, he certainly ought to have
giving him such public endorsement as he did after
he was finally removed. Had he simply removed
granted that the President was anxious to
HEED THE POPULAR WILL,
which was that the Custom House should be placed
see what benefit, In the peoples minds, the Presi-
dent got by removing Murphy-he lost by
the letter of endorsement which he gave MUIR
things which the administration has done
which do not like and which very many good re-
pubcans do not like; but still incline to the
opinion that the great mass OF the people take
broader view Of affairs than politicians. ! think
administration so long as they see that the govern
ment Is being carried on economically, mat the
revenues are being properly collected and that the
national debt is being daily decreased. with all his
mistakes think that
WILL VOTE FOR GENERAL GRANT,
but l cannot pOSitiNely now WHttHuE WIN VI
not for you know many things may happen
between now and the day of election to make a
man make up his mind as to what way ne VIII
vote :" and the Judge smiled good natured smile,
full OF meaning, as he uttered the word.
''Do you think judge" then asked that the
effect upon the Philadelphia Conventional mean
In the matter of forcing 1t to put certain panks In
its platform, or throwing overheard the candidate
who now seems to be certain OF getting the nomi-
nation ~
II do not think It will have much effect upon the
Philadelphia Convention as far as the atter's can.
didate Is concerned. Indeed, think IL matters
very little who the man IL whom the Cincinnati
Convention will nominate as far as the other Con-
vention is concerned. Even though the former
should take hold Of the most prominent and purest
republican they can find, the other Convention will
nominate Grant. think that the indications point
to his certain nomination no matter what
the other Convention may do. AS to the
effect the one may have on the platform
Of the other, that Is another Question
1t may make such good. sound platform that the
other Convention will be found to put some OF the
planks In its own platform; but there would be
nothing out Of the way In Its doing this. 1t would
be simply
AN ACT OF GOOD POLICY