The New York herald., 1872-08-02

came into the room during the exampation Of the
Rev. Dr. Pierce, and when the latter had retired,
Professor Ordronaux said Father Renaud, In
make some serious charges against the manage
ment, and that you might be able to give US the
ing this Visit. Are you willing to testify in the
matter?
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the of
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reverend gentlemen under the rules are confined to the
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the sacramcnts and observances of the Church
The theological discussion, for such it seemed to
resolve res Itself into In was continued for awhe when
Renault remaining In the room.
JULIA BROWN,
had been in the Institution about twenty-five years and
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+ she wanted to see HIM have not had death in he
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girls attend the Chapel and like to GO there never heard
them Sr cs%Ran G the Refugees religious
and
Father Renaud then asked Matron O'Brien q few
James Downing, an inmate was called. He was
come to him, and that he could speak without
hesitation. James had attended chapel, and sup
faithful Catholics but rather Woad Sa
church and hear the priest. Father Renaud drew
out the last admission.
E. H. Hall0ck testified to the manner Of conduct
ing the Sabbath school at length
CHEATING THE INMATES. :,
The NTH charge was now taken up 1t is as fol-
The said managers hold out inducements to the boys to
money for Iy and then defeat their hopes
On this point, Superintendent Jones was exam
ined at length. Much interesting Information was
deduced regarding the "new shop" where the
week after the first three months, and then five
dollars dollars o week, receiving after nine months
and John Frazer, two names selected from
those at work In the shop at random were called
and testified at length h:-They were well satisfied
with the shop and its rules, each boy having q
book showing what he had earned; they were
never cheated out OF their money; the Commission
ers looked into this matter very thoroughly; there
was shown by the books Of the House that 81 ,324
were credited to these boys In this shop; each one
has memorandum book with their earnings en-
tered.
IGNORANCE OF MANAGERS.
The charge regarding the inefliciency OF the
managers the Commissioners thought had already
been answered as they progressed, but President
Strong on the point offered in evidence sketch OF
the duties Of the management, which was very full
IN its details. The charge is as f0ll0ws:-
The said managers of the said House Refuge igno
rant OF its internal workings and condition. and that
cause thus ignorant they have ret9ned In office Super
1nendent for several years Israel O. Jones' wholly
unfit and unworthy OF the position; whose administration
characterized by brutality and neglect Of the great in
terest committed to his
In this connection the managers present by Pro-
fessor OrdrOneauX's questionings, certified that
had superintendent Jones ever been brutal and
neglectful man, they would have certainly knownit.
n. ID. Heider, of the Executive Committee, and
Edgar Ketchum, OF the Indenturing Committee,
testified fully as to the working of these commit
tees, when the Commissioners adjourned until
eleven O'Clock on Saturday.
The chance still remains for any one ewho desires
to testify in this matter before the State COmmis
SionerS.