The New York herald., 1872-11-22

the Winter. / was only there two DAYS. The
leave, that the Council OF State had determined to
give me up. ana so hurried here. guess he
didn't want TO have any bother with me. and was
CORREsPoNDERT-Whend did you loave Parisi
HOW cLUSEREr ESCAPED FRoA fARIs-A PRIEST
WHO Is GOOD SAMARITAN.
GENERAL-I left Paris in November. was In
hiding lor SIX months.
Would you object TO giving me narrative OF your
GENERAr.-Not at all. with proper reservations.
The attack upon Paris was made by M. Theirs on
Sunday evening. was then in command at Mont
martre. 1 remained there until Tuesday morning.
The advance OF the Versailles troops showed that
mune cause was ss0st. Twas Just out OF Mazas
nrIs0p Uncre had been locked up by Delescluze
and some Of the Others VINO aa no. DccY1 wnre the
cc,css OF honor sad was soldier. 20 hau merely M N
a nominal command wweht 10 tiio noase " = aa ~
American friend ID the Montmar..v ouarso! enst aMa
unless the Prussans nterfered there would be suU..
massacre as was never before known In history
and deeds would be done which would ast0nish and
pain the world. asked him II | could In any way
escape. He said he saw no way-that, OF course,
the American Legation would do nothing, which l
knew well, as Mr.. Washburne was not friendly. I
then remembered that when was in the War ONCE
priest had come to me to see the Archbishop, who
was confined In Mazas for the purpose OF confess
Ing him and giving him the sacraments OF his
Church | gave the priest permission to DO this.
and ! remembered his gratitude. | went to his
aTdng Hs in % yoq M
denonncc me to the Versailles peoples" mo-" he
replied you are in my house, you are my guest
mained in one room. At last affairs became very
quiet and my protector dressed me up like priest,
shaved my lace smooth and together we went to
Belgium, where Mr.. Jones gave me warning that
must leave.
CoRREsroNDENT-were you molestedf
GENERAI-Not at ALL had breviary In my
hands ana read prayers all the way.
COMMUNE FEUDS.
u0sss ~ you see many Of the Com
GENKRAis-No. am not very popular with some
Of them: Gailliard and his people do not like me.
none: have to write for subsistence I write for
the English magazines and am busy with my me-
COMMUNISM TO RETURN IN TWO YEARS
CoRREsPoNDENT--Wha do YOU think OF Uommun-
ism as = political question: Is It dead2
OF its life everywhere. II did not have fair show
in Paris that was not the Commune in its best
shape so some a. leaders were Communists others
ist ne was an old Jacobn. as much Jacobin as
Robesperre, who was as urgent for centralized
the Commune again and shall return to France
without che danger OF being shot at the buttes OF
Sat0ry.
WHAT is COMMUNISM
CoRREspONDENT-liOw DO the Communists differ
from the JacObinsp .sr#
believed that Paris should rule the provinces that
the metropolis should be the heart and the head
s he na e IN r
was Robespierre's doctrine; but no advanced
thinkers hold those views in this age. Victor Hugo
sometimes writes that way. Deescluze was
JacObin, and about the only one knew among the
Commune. He meant that the Commune should
conquer Paris and that Paris should &c conquer
should be divided into communes or communities,
large or small, as the case may be, according as
nune should govern itself, just as New York and
Philadelphia govern themselves. vaquiand and
tue Glrondlsts believed TINS, alter q fashion. You
radical under Robespierre no one believes now.
What was conservative under him in the GirOnde
= CORREspoNDENT-AbOu these notions OF division
OF property and land and so on.
GENERAIs-Weli some think one way and some
another. Communism has really nothing to do
with these questions, any more than republcanism
has 10 do with the philosophy OF MI Greeley abont
munist, but he is a socialist. Blanqu is q socialist.
/ don thinS RochelOrt cares anything about the
30 as a potGaa principle Id M Il
you hear to the contrary to its discredit Is like
what you used 10 hear about the republicans IN
America being In ayor oil negroes marrying white
THE KILLING or AoNsEIGNEUR DARBoy.
CoRREspohDENr-lLad you anything to do with
GENERAL-Not at all. Raoul Rgault arrested
the Archbishop. remember the occasion well.
woman, who, by the way, was herself q connection
OF Monseigneur DAT BOY, came to Rgault one even
ing demanding Justice" against Versailles, as her
Riganlt % asked @ what what conld he do. swell" said the
woman, "there Is Monscigneur Darboy, my cousin,
friend Of the Empire ana M trc arrest ,nss him
the idea Of arresting the clergy Rigauit gave the
order that evening. All that did to DarbOy, as
Mr.. Washburne can testify, was to make his prison
lie as pleasant as could. We would have given
up Darboy and any live other prisoners II Ihers
had given us Blanqui. told Washbnrne so and in
duced the Commune to agree. Washburne went to
and reported that Thiers would not hear
OF 1t. SO you that Thiers could have saved Dar-
boy. NY idea is he wanted him shot, for the Odium
It would throw on the Commune.
CoRREsPoNDENT-Was there any notion OF shoot
ing him when arrcstedY
Communists did not want Reign OF Terror.
Delescluze favored such reign, but no one agreed
with him, and we burned the guill0tne. When
Thiers began to shoot our friends on the sidewalks
there was no saving the priests or any one else
connected with Versailles. Thiers began to shoot
our people on Monday morning. The Communists
shot Darboy on Wednesday morning
CoRREsroNDsNT-wh gave the order for the exc
WHO BURNED THE PALACES
GENERAIc-l don't know. You see was in hiding
from Tuesday morning and knew nothing Of what
But have no doubt the order was given by the au-
thorities vt the Hotel de Vile. And SO about the
when that was determined; l was In Mazas Prison.
But have doubt Delescluze and the last leaders
ScM men are being ground 20 " powder between
two armies and expect to be shot in an hour they
will, if they have power, do desperate things. And
tuC SUHIuuuC CCIt6iHty puWCls ~ VINO u NJ fdSc
error not TO treat with them. M. Theirs took the
LIE OF the Archbishop.
THE GOOD AND BAD OF THE COMMUNE. ~
CORRESPONDENT presume the Commune had
all KINDS of men in their authority.
GENERAI~-An kinds OF men, Just as y0u ind them
In every large body Of men. There was Flourens-
sweet and noble character, and most accom-
plished. lie was Greek scholar. and was killed
In one OF the sOrties. There was Courbet. than
whom no better painter exists in France. Ferie
was an enthusiast but good man. ROssel had
very little mind, and was an tntriguer. placed
him In the War ONCE, ana he used his place TO
overturn me. He had NapOleOn's ideas, and
actually contemplated a renewal OF the eighteenth
Brumare. There was nothing whatever OF Ros-
sci. R0chefOrt was simply writer. People began
to think ne had no personal courage, and so his
influence came to an end.
Observation-Disclosures also, had no part In
the Communes
GENERAI.-Gambetta Is O time-server and poli
tician. He ran away during the Commune and
was neither for 1t nor against 1t. He was like Louis
Blanc and the rest OF the party. They could just
as well have made the Commune success as not
Now they reap the fruits OF their apathy and inde
cison. There can be no republic without tue Com
mune and the reuubtC will he the Commune.