The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-08-04
HOUSE OF REFUGE.
Conclusion of the State Commits
siOners' Investigation.
RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTION
superintendent Jones indicated Interest.
ing Testimsny-Shall the Form Of WOr-
ship at the Refuge Be Changed2

gardng the Irregularities Of the MANAGEMENT of
the House of Refuge, from Thursday until yester-
day, was most opp0rtune, as 1t gave the advocates
OF those who battling for certain religious privl
leges In the institution chance to present their
arguments Early In the morning DR.. Nathan
Bishop and Professor Ordronaux, the two earnest
Commissioners, were on hand, and, with President
Strong and Managers Ketchum. Herder and Hal
stead, together with Counsel Marin and Mcmahon
for the Catholic community, the assemblage was
complete.
President Strong introduced the Rev. Dr. Pierce
in the matter Of continuing the testimony regard
ing religious instruction. who read and subse-
quently made explanation regarding the quoted
Duranquet:--
40 vu. ST FRANCIS XAyIsn's ColLEcE
which you introduced my letters your evidence before
ss sa;sS sns S S s Of
The n ion about the
at With the Of my had
and might ssm Be rSs4p s
to find fault to raise objections does follow,
ss letters that ssS de
grace is quite Objectionable to Catholics.
pleased r M e oS anua II st as was @as
% Win IN q R II the Sas
whether ihad noticed in the service anythns offensive
Gano tha must say da N. not But You should not
Su Gs tia deal no Snd
tTatss have no opporuniy Of worsppns ACCORDING to
their own religion, nor to be instructed in it. the Catholic
strasse cT i fgh ssr0Vea ana wf0"sed ana
as the e e @ @
proportion Catholic children the Institutions
long as the evil is not remedied.
a. AZ the time when y9u invited me kindly q hope
q m lea
to aSa reev the Sa oa4 I
sion of having separate Catholic service Under the
rSgSah n, you eoaG not ALLOW yourself But i not
were but very small fraction Of the community should
ton of the present population as the Catholics aref
sod this up in connection With the
nothing to do with the main issue You viii always md
ers or managers would think that So9d DO good in
tribute to peaceful conclusion Of these Unfortunate
s@rhnkns that this letter may contain some things
copy.
Dr. PIERCE explained that he did not say that
Father Duranquet was greatly pleased with the
"Manual of Worship" but with the "liturgical
vice to which he had listened" He did not say, as
was understood that Father Duranquet stock no
exception at the restrictions about administering
the Sacrament" but that he assured the Catholic
priests that they might give any religious instruc
ton, but might not administer the sacrament
FATHER RENAyD
was here brought forward, and he read the follow
ing statement, reviewing his statement Of Thurs
day last before the Commissioners. 1t is OF much
INTEREST,"
day. quite unsxpectedly failed to say several things
the to
refectionI concluded that Judging from the way You
1S% Haf
nefr kim ta ny
but only to lay before , in true
%%nnity whose eyes are upon me with the most intent
y hs charge resarains religious instruction e
Sas St salt
might not be defined in the same way by all parties II
might convey a more distinct meaning -
liberty by the United states constitution to
ss% 81 d @ to
manager has been framed with the greatest that
sa @oM e rene%.a s, S Of
cuson of the whole truth this mere assertion Of broad
point Il to be S ~
S up s faith shd
from the Catholic Church. -
rule. q sah % oua nS n allow the
separate e. the Catholic children from the others
XIII 's ys Sess Hf%
to Dr. ar That he ala
e empower the managers to allow the Catholic inmates
they % fss sny to ssSs
every religious scrupe and in virtue OF that love Of lib
why not DO il for 6s healthy as well as for the .icky IN
Now win regard ssdVS S%s e sae
the insI,atSn ana even al Catholic clergy
it amount 10 from The Catholic standpoint il Is the
teaches administer the without which
they believe that there is no true reformation,
the boy. girls or ISs nat rs'fS x
Of c@ might 70 1at
den, oi them e regsI HIM i does not follow hu5y
iaal adviser and that they would not rather have their
t. a s a%s the se
w n tsnn qy i they be before
witnoat fear danger Of their being Afterwards
e and s pHSs %
the religious instructions they received likewise assert
oro" s
cac S2%% ReF fs boy
ana sn0 Re sas
Hp 81 % also 9hS tod asked him he wSgd
he
hns me $ BY he numb he ss asked ssy BY S H.
to whether es s s h cshH qs
Father than send them TO the Refugc @hether he
s e. & coming
house, than they we're anxious To keep them from the
streets, bad company and crime.
This captous question had not foreseen. was since
told by my legal adviser that such a question dis
respectful, and that should have refused answer.
Had known az the time who asked me the que ston-
that the gentleman was shrewd lawyer and |
one OF the managers OF the Rciuge-I would have
been more on my guard hut having answered |
it. wish 10 state on this matter, that from the fact that
Catholic parents would object 10 their children being
sent TO the Refuge II does not follow that the children
would necessarily pursue a criminal they |
might be sent 70 other rcformatory schools to some
public penal institutions, where their Catholic faith
would not be nterered WITH and where sunday they
might nd Catholic service.
Finally, let me assure you, gentlemen that neither
nor the Catholic clergy nor the Catholic aiy hos
tile TO your institution, point, which call
unscearansm, but which Catholics style practical
Professionalism Give in the Refuge the rights which
have the rest OF Randals Island and 20 security
for i the keen and deep feeling opposition TO the Refuge
which exists among the Catholics only in New York
and Brooklyn. but where the tdings its dongs
have reached will disappear, and 6l3 in
he ypu ana mou yov may snort me nave nearly