The New York herald., 1872-12-01

would throw ven OF sophistry over those atroci-
lustrlous men who fought and bed in that long des
perate battle for liberty OF conscience, that very
Liberty Liberty to which Catholics now appeal, Is
ceedlng generations II we allow a legend like
TINS OF Father Burke's TO overspread and cloud
trust and through imbecility and c0wardice we
may bequeath to future ages the legacy Of another
struggle str Father Burke himself is Tor liberation
the ireest ana the widest l am heartily glad OF
u. ] wish l could feel that he was speaking
for his s, Church r,i.,,as. as well as himself Bui
the Syllabus. In the same number OF the New YORK
Tablet from which take his speech, find an article
OF citizens. When was last in Spain there was
no Protestant church allowed IN the Peninsula.
used to feel that II had the fortune to die there
should be buried in field like dog II all that
now ended 10 was not ended by the Pope aud the
bishops. 1t was ended % by the Revolution Nor is
terms. In his reading OF history the Protestants
were the chief criminals.
THE CATHOLICS WE'RE INNOCENT VICTIMS.
II on those terms he Is willing to forgive and for
get !, for one, am not. Father Burke knows the
The first is the condition OF the second. When the
Catholic Church admits frankly her past faults the
world will as frankly forgive them. II she takes
the blame on others who were guilty OF nothing
except resistance to her tyranny, the innocent
all the perfumes of Arabia viii not sweeten them
Will assume then, that am fit to speak on this
Irish subject. and viii at once pass to it, must
irrelevant matter on one side
POPE ABRAMS BULL.
go to the Norman Conquest ITSELF and Pope
Adrians bull which Father Burke still declares to
be q forgery. l need hardly say that attach no
consequence to the bull itself. suppose the POpes
ofRome have no more right over Ireland than have
over Cuba. The Popes, however, did at that time
represent the general conscience. What Pope
sanctioned was usually what the intelligent part OF
mankind held to be right. II the Normans forged
such sanction to color their Conquest they com
mitted crime which ought to be exposed
The naked facts are these: king Henry
when he conquered Ireland, produced
Been granted t%ey before Sy Pore Adan aTe
1t Is matter OF history that from the date OF the
Conquest Peters pence was paid tegulary 70
ferred to Rome. Continual application was
made to Rome for dspensatlons to marry
and constant Communication from that time
forward between the irish people and clergy and
course OF all this communication, the Irish should
never have mentioned this forged bull at Rome, or
that II they did mention 1t there should have been
tion IL utterly inc0nceivable.
FATHER BURKE AND HIS TOOLS.
But the bull, says Father Burke, is forgery, on
was elected Pope on the Sd Of December, Ii54
John OF Salisbury, by whom the bull was procured
| did not arrive in Rome to ask for it till lib5
| What clearer proof could there be Very plaus-
ibe. But forgers would scarcely have com
mtted q blunder simple. Father Burke's crlti-
cism comes from handling tools he is mpertectly
acquainted with. He is evidently ignorant that
paper dated February, 1854, was in reality writ
ten IN February, 1155. The Popes did not use this
STYLE but Engshmen did, and confusion OF this
kind Is the most natural thing In the world in the
publication Of document by which England was
specially affected.
The lecturer here read extracts from Dr. Thei-
ner's book, in which q letter from q subsequent
Pope to King Henry the Third is extracted from
the Vatican archives, also letter from Donald
ONeil calling himself King OF Ulster, to the Pope
speaking Of the Normans much as Father Burke
speaks OF the English now; complaining specially
rifced Ireland to his cOuntrymen. Mr. Froude
also also SPOKE ,, at length OF the bishops and the
the history of James H., Elzabcths con
duct in Ireland, OF the rebellion which he said
by far the gravest matter he had to deal with, the
administration Of the Earl or SrratfOrd. OF
THE COwARDICE OF THE IRISH
Mr.. FrOude said lastly he accuses me OF having
called the Irish towards, and he desires to take
the word back. l cannot take back what |
never gave. Father Burke says that such words
cause to remember them. That they cause bad
blood have reason to know already, but the
worus are not mine but his, and he and not
must recall them. Not once. but again and again,
with the loudest emphasis, have spoken OF the
notorious and splendid courage OF Irishmen What
| said was this-and will say II over again.
was asking how 1t was that a race whose
courage was s.,,, above suspicion made SO poor a
thns that the Irish would fight only for cause In
which they really believed and that they were too
shrewd to be duped by illusions with which they
allowed themselves to play will add tnat If 500
OF the present Irish Police, Cets and Catholics, all
VI UlOSb VI III cause Oh OTueT anu
good government would walk up to and walk
through the large mob which the s0-caed patriots
could collect from the four Provinces OF Ireiand II
II be to call men towards when ! say that under
the scverest trials the Irish display the nOblest
qualities which do honor to humanity when they
are on the right side; then, and only then, have
questioned the courage OF lriShmen.
Mr. FrOudc then referred somew ewhat I'm etaiI to
the facts Of the rebellion and closed his lecture
fOllOws:-
THE CONTROVERSY OVER
Father BurkeS own knowledge Of his subject Is
~ Ia kulan
ship to nothing so well as to one OF the
lives Of his own Irish saints IN which
legend and reality are 80 strangely blended
that the true aspects OF things and character
no longer be discerncd. believe that have
shown that this Is the true state or the case
though from the state OF Father Burke's mind
upon the subject he may be unaware precisely
hope that we may now part In good humor;
we may differ about the past; about the present
and for practical objects ! believe we are agreed
He loves the Irish peasant and 80 do 1; have been
accused OF having nothing practical to propose for
Ireland have something extremely practical;
power OF their landlords, and made answerable to
no authority but the law. IL would not be difficult
to define for what offence tenant might legally be
deprived of his holding. He ought not to be
dependent on the caprice OF any individual man.
If Father Burke and his friends will help in that
way. instead Of agtating for q separation from
England, would sooner find myself working with
him than against him. II he will forget my sup
posed hatred to his religion and will accept the
nand which hold out to him. now that our fight is
over, IL s hatred can assure him. which, like
some other things, has no existence except in his
plause.)