The New York herald., 1872-10-10
THE JUDICIARY CONVENTIONS.
Tammany Hall stll Confsrring with Outside
organisations-Exciting Scene Between
Two Delegates-An Adjournment
for Further Conference.

for Further Conference
The Tammany Judiciary Nominating Convention
met again yesterday afternoon at Tammsuy Han,
to hear the report OF the Committee on Conference
which had In consideration the question OF con-
ference with the Bar Association, the Committee OF
Seventy, the liberal republicans and other outside
organizations relative to the nominations to be
made for the judiciary. Mr.. Augustus schell pre-
sided. There were about two hundred delegates
present
Mr.. HORACE F. CLARK, nom the Committee ofCon-
ference, said Mr. Chairman, one OF the Com
mittee OF Twenty-One charged with cOnferring
with other outside political organizations
as to reporting In harmony names for
nomination to the judicial Offices OF the county, l
have the honor to report that We have met num-
ber Of these organizations have had conferences
with them, but as yet have come to no satisfactory
conclusion. Some Of them have asked for places
on our tickets. which we had no right to concede.
nomination now Is not all that Is necessary to
success. Our success depends on q general ap-
proval OF our candidates. We propose to make
nominations which the outside organizations as
well as our own can support. We consequently
desire further conferences. We have not seen all
the organizations; nor can we do all the work re-
quired OF us in so short q time. have here the
resolution Of the committee relative to the matter,
which will read. Mr.. Clark, thereupon, read the
following
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but a hey have an sao s.s nass az 10
comncte the inquiries which your COMMITTEES wers d.
on me part several of such orsanzatons. e'''
and necessity Of holding iarthe eonisrenees aud
therefore would rscommena 70 the Convention that they
ssned them, suggest that tIis Convention be I'D.
until Monday next osSsH s1sgi 4 8. frS ss O'clock
and the other members of the Committee.
As the reading was finished Mr.. MIcHAELJ. McCAF
FREY and moved that the report be laid on the
table, the committee be discharged and the Con-
vcntion proceed to the nominations.
Mr.. KELLY-A motion to adjourn Is not debatable.
Mr.. MCCAFFREY-ls there any previous question:
Mr.. KELLY-I believe there IL. Let me say as re-
CARDS this report OF the committee OF conference
that It s important that we adjourn until Monday
for various reasons, as well as for consideration OF
the nominations. 1t is very important that har-
mony and unanimity OF action should be secured.
As to the feeling relative to candidates to be pre-
sented, there are some against whom much can be
referred to this committee OF confer
ence. ls 1t prudent that we should here
u q q % ~ od.
presentation OF names here that ought never have
been presented must be considered We are in no
haste. 1t Is yet four weeks to election. The
nominations can be easily made next Monday, and
they should be men OF reputation and OF character
and grave consideration must be given to their
Mr. McCAFFREY-Mr. Chairman, presume. as
there Is a previous question, that no debating IS
allowable but as this gentleman has debated the
subject presume have the same privilege.
CHAlRMAN-There has been no rule made IN the
matter. You are entitled to the moor.
Mr.. MCCAFFREY-l would like to know what can
be the intentions OF this Committee OF Conference
the Committee OF seventy could not get seventy
votes outside OF its own circle. What IL the Ear
Association but mere CLIQUE that you or !, sir,
organization cannot stir up a corporas guard
among them, and yet Tammany is asked to adjourn
TO confer with them. IL Is absurd. IL was under
taken to dictate TO us here before this Convention
met. But dictarion will not go down quietly. We
nations crammed down our throats. This Con-
vention is not to be ruled by
VANDERBILT AND THE CENTRAL RAILROAD.
lSensation)
CnAIRMAN-The gentleman will conhne himself
to the subject
that the motion to discharge the committee and To
* into nominations will be passed.
Mr. KELIY-Mr. Chairman, that motion should not
prevail. / am sorry the gentleman has referred To
individuals in the manner he has. MIR. Vanderbilt
and the Central Railroad do not pretend to rule
tn Convention In fact, know that the attention
he and gentlemen connected with hlm give 10 this
organization Is q loss OF time and money to him.
cannot forget that we were beaten here year
ago by men who had bedragglcd Tammany ana
brought her TO her late condition
Mr.. MCCAFfREI-We are a new iammany now,
TammanV
and making OF states and fixing OF things. ! don't
choose To be bound by the proceedings OF COM
mittce which was not the creation OF this C0nven-
tiOn.
CHArRMAN-The committee was the creation of
Mr.. McCAFFRgy--I beg to differ with the Chair
man. IT was not, and can prove 1t.
conysnton l WAS ny ,ae
will take his seat. He is out OF order.
VOICE. move we adjourn.
Mr.. CLARK lcxcitediy)-Mr. Chairman demand
that the gentleman who uses such insulting ex-
prcssions toward gentlemen In this Convention,
whom he doesn't know and who don know him. be
afforded an opportunity 10 explain them away, or
that the convention take occasion to repel them.
lie has used
INsoLENr AND UNGENTLEMANLY EXPRESSIONS
toward me because presented this report, and
demand that he SHALL II he can, recover the posi-
tlOn OF gentleman among gentlemen, which lie
lost when he used those insulting terms.
Great excitement here ensued. Mr.. Clark was
tons and flushed with uncomfortable rage and cx-
element as he flung this defiance, while McCafrey
was entlrely swallowed up Dy tne KNOTS oil inter-
ested spectators who sprung to their feet anu
gathered about the heated disputants.
CHAiRMAN-lf the gentleman can make such an
explanation he will be permitted TO do so.
Mr. MCCAFFREY-I had not the slightest inten-
tion, sir OF referring TO Mr.. Clark.
Mr.. CLARE-What did you mean, sir, by referring
to the New York Central when you knew the chair
man and mysel2
Mr. McCAffREy-Tf the gentleman wants more
pertinent explanation will give 1t him here or
elsewhere
Amid great confusion the Convention hereupon
adjourned until Monday afternoon at three O'clock
and Clark and McCafrcy were swallowed up and
separated by the departing delegates.