New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-01-12

want A. lei them h companies; American snven OK.
merchants wous be very well wntS tss
NJ no" sIkAMsHrP BUSINESS rs Doxv
mr. Cssserly-What time do you ALLOW, w.
port on this sides A. When tbev NAB y. your ships IN
'Ee 'ney ought 10 be here FIVE or six DAYS '"se pa
az what time do You allow them I'm no..
about seven or eight 'eraee passage they will me other
In W arya aS you all alloy them two days more
d ysrn and satdsyy awe S%s,.
quarters Of the compaby are made; that is Se
yosir cx1endtsp hali your repairs here ., NO.
make as long stay gSo tbs side that yo
70 do So "'' " would be very pgn matt A. We
so ~ rs t y, fact that you allow q ,os.
A. don't tdG niece to the nercan,5 dh New-Yok
O. n Won an Is any inconvenience community
witch to get tTp allow the merehant g coud you
| woSnild "' would be a great conveDiencs 4. -
q And no additional Inconvenience n von,
sally rnn anotSs expense TO me; 70 dothat must
| "a" o 70 ul anolher vessel.
q. II you ran another vessel you would 90, ,u..
enengn 10 allow Merchants 10 get their permits ON,
nnnder pnr1', proportion Of theF goods DISCHARGED
You have spoken Of the advantage the British ~.
order the other side OF the yn inc General
case pow reversed A. There Is no adygntaoe noS So
q Whatever difference there "a is IN your favor,
A. N2t at al; the charges are the same in
q Have you any understanding as TO the reduction
charges A. HGne whatever did not pay those bills
| the importers when they paid their freight.
Il II an object Tor You to have the bills a. light az
| make any special bargain with me
q. a r. stewart testified that he had special agree
ment with Leet Co. whereby they not to charge
him to exceed 81 rs, and that rule the charges
from 25 to 81 u.s. A. 1t depends on the se and weight
9 DO yon think that ANYBODY as rule contracts contrast
better in regard to the details of his business than Mr.
stewart A. NO. think he Is pretty smart I'D every
O. DO you know anything about the size Of the pack.
ages on these bills you have presented here A. Not at
O. DO you think that adding steamer more 20 your
line would ena bic you to ralse the plce OF enti a.
being able TO raise the freight
TIE ADVANTAGE OF REDUCING GENERAL ORDER chAR"Hs
O. If these frequent charges for goods sent 10 "ener
order were taken o it would DO decided pecunary al
vantage to the steamships that have to pay themf
Cortanlv, n IL simply matter % calculation whether II
is bettr pay the General Order charges Oh 70 put Oh
~ r. these charges removed II would be adj
vaStage all the -team1r. ak. 4. ~ course there
O. IL would that much gamer in the expense OF
rying on your business A. Certainly.
L IS the rate charges you have make ia your bust
nessl A. This is the tendency OF course;
Mr.. Stewart-ouppose all the lines hau 10 put on an
additional steamer they would put up the ireights from
the increased expense A. They might and might not
yo have to send YOUR ships to sea Whistler they
make money or not and often month after month In slo
Mr. Howe understood you to say that 1t was great
ADVANTAGE 10 the merchants 10 haVe e Keep
that A. There is disadvantage in many cases, be
cnse man does not want wait hours after paying
freight for them get them soon az he can
O. Does Mr. Stewart care whether you Keep pay
Is hours, send them 10 Leet STOCKING anu pay
the bsl 4. Possibly it is little less trouble 10 ge'
them from the ship. , ,o
q. You said the reason why the Cunard ana Bremen
companies had the advantage OF those lahdg on III "a
siue that when the goods were uhloaden S wi.a
I"Ii.e 1t All; or what your explanation a. TAT
Niilin 4S hours into the Genera orsS S ,J ora,
charge the imported storage or ~ m berausa we
O. You had to pay for those is hours storase ana tey
od the work and so did have to pay out the money
A. That is H. and they got repaid by the tngs onss M
cessary go into the General Order anu nbe of tho
storage they have that ADVANTAGE over me, sou mara
sure Of the privilege of storing general order bus
ness for yearsi A. Yes, would 49,. ,.,uu..o =,
taxing bonded goods the same rs the others IA
@. You think that would be an indueementt A. De
O. DO you know what proportion the General Order sr
charges that are deaySd ~ e do not oi "
O. Have you known of any losses OF goods since INC
estabiishedl A. have not heard OF any
senator Bucklngham-You say you have added s,eam
freight Can You tell why A. that freishs arc
lower today than when our 1eahfrs r'' began 70 fu
Wa 2n dnSe else has there Of
ire smownt Of freight las Increased enormously,
@ With increased facilities there is AM an increase OF
O. Is not that the fact with your business A. Our
frcights are lower than they were 10 years ago -,
the PRESENT General charges being unreasonable
A. Not comparing them with the charges years odeh'
TESTIMONY OF +. w. j. HURST
Francis W. J. Hurst managing agent OF tie NatIonai
Line OF Steamships, testified as follows:
O. Are you acquainted with the General Order bus-
ness A. have knowledge OF 1t, bat am not Ia
@ Do you not, when you unload goods from your
steamers, send them 20 the Gen era Order storesf
We have to, when We discharge vessel within g honr.
entering send good many to the Gen11tr than
stores, but we generally manage to Keep them nor' 'a
AZ oura "a sax the expense.
Has there been any material change during the last
FIVE or SIX years osra GSn asc tS the
community cannot see any cnSS their General
.ne ,s and sending them across to New-fork Ivy
as far own line Is cohcerne" ~
O. Was that change benefit or an injury 10 OF G n io
nunyf A. dont see tha = an inIury to the steam.
siip w. t resnect A. They built large ware
hotises over there and now they are empty -, 49,,
o. Can YOU suggest any change which would ne Oh
boSeati don't know, except giving us our own Een'
O. Do YOU know of any fraud or wrongdong connec'ea
with the General Order business as coHo"c'eu "'io "
vessels are s e OF se
with Your line Twelve ships pht o"S &c" Vi 'A'
q You, as ai i the goods for hours instead Of
sn@ them TO the General order M ovsrnncn.
10 9 you perpt you and other gentlemen managng
seamship lines TO select and bonded ware.
designated General oT n"t ""'''''-7e0
WouI not the shipping business be acta'eo ny
" Wou Ii not merchants be benefited by i'll A. In
some c,f M n"t increase the business OF the Custom
hQGsn " in that wayi A. think We should , A.,
ga IIas there been any change ia the ratesI a. Mr.
o. ias .,' ore nn more tnan they have always be en
ihaye been looking through my oliis ana hhd tney
are H"t has been the average charge Of Lee Co. Tor
the last three monthsi a 81 o. nrs,pess arc -o,say
o. Your views OF the Geheral OIuet nD~
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