New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-01-27

by deputy collector; I do nj want to mention his
Q II i is true, y won, emOarrass him think You
had better give his name' A. am In your hands His
sOogt the time , the was made
DS ny Of pf Ss e The "
his beng there about that time frequently
EysrythSng else was mere CONJECTURE them A.
! q. Who knew what he was coming forl A. Mr. Mason
Pretended to know he expected to be interested in this
| Gene VI Order business, which he afterward was.
O. Dia he say he had any interview with Gen. Porter
trSnspiTed betw.-n Gen. Porter and Mr. Grinne when
he , was s there f. s A The near
Mr.. Grnneil was compel I'd to give this General Order
said ySr 6a S b gD s fS%
O. Did You have conversation with Mr.. Mason your
| selff A. The conversation was between him and MIR.
q Did he say that Mr.. Grlnrell had given him this
information, K am not positive about tSat, but
| O. When was thisi A. 7 should think in the Summer
| OF 1869, at Mr.. Taylor's Office in Pine-st.
| Q. Mr.. Taylor has deceased since. A. Yes, Sir.
| THE INTERVIEW BETWEEN MUDGETr AND LEET.
In relation to the interview between you and Col.
1Aet at the ClefA0nt, wish YOU would fix the time
when that interview took rtaoes A. AT know is that
it few days after this interview with Porter in
Washington think about week after.
| @. The interview with Porter was wheni A. On q
Monday wont be positive. but think it was before
|
to amP Ss Sai BGy ' me
g. The language he used 70 You on that occasion was
have man an who PIT his 3 band Sp his
O. Did that finish the sentenced A. think 1t did; I
Senator MowemWhat you said about Gen. Porter
and the General Order business was said at Washington
q. You say there was number Of NewYork mer,
there A. They We're NSy tS SG people, was
O. They were good deal excited about the transfer OF
on that OCCASION say the merchants Of New,York were
didn't that the excitement extended to this circle
O. Did you state at that time who else connected
with the General Order business A. No. Sir ,.,,,,
O. Did yon state who you believed was connected Win
Porter in that business A. No, Sir . .o,,
At What time did your labor I contract as you Ga nt
prepared to decide about IT. and he extended 1t TO the
18TH of July 1870 and then 1t was closed as far as was
O. At what time wonld i have closed but for that ex-
O. IL was the extension OF the contract that about
to expire rather than the contract itself when you were
O. At this time you hadn't appointed Assistant
Appraiser A No, Sir; was appointed only this last
O. You didn't say you believed Gen Porter was in
terested with Col. Leeti A No; l don't think men
O. Or With Mr.: Lindsay, Al don't think Lind'ay'S
name mentioned either
NUGGETS VISIT TO CEN. PORTER
O. What did you soy to Gen. Porter 7 A. Gen. Coch-
rane came to me early Sunday evening in the hotel;
told him that when went to Porter wanted him
present to hear everything that passed between u.s.
didn't know Gen. Porter before; was introduced to him
then by Gen Cochrane; we went into what in LncOlns
line we used to cali John Hays ROOM" Gen. Porter
said he had understood that had stated that knew
personally of his being interested in jobs IN the New
York Custom.house; 1 said that hadn't
stated that knew psTTscRsdy 50 but st Ina' and
would give him my reasons therefor; went on and
gave him my substantially the same as have
given them here; told him what Mr. Taylor had sadi
Reminded him of the article in The sun; told him be-
he that Mr.. Lindsay, he had no acqlalh-
ance with him. that he might have seen him, hut did MT
wen as Cen Coehranc had often spoken OF h1 as
Port" in familiar way; he said that Lindsay had no
Mr. Cirnhei; that had Mr.. Grinne who told him
a he S9nd 90 nothing VIZ od ne cocame
left the house. that still believed Cen fGIer had
S SAY h ar he was supposed to BE- by persons about
here the rcpresentative Of these gentlemen couldnt
conceive of other why Mr. Lindsay should nc
mSn for init service and from the that Lindsay
: progressed intimate with Gen. Porter Babcock, aud
icet, and all these gentlemen, thought he was TO
I | garded as a representative of these men ~ 49,, -
, NO" All liz ON vour mind that Mr. Lindsay
himself connected win the General order 6hf sSst
Porter has nothing to do With H. s hat no
ledge OF Lindsay and there was nothing said TO change
When did You reinqulsh the idea that Lindsay
connected with the business A. Mr. Lindsay, in mai
erca interests this city; the fact that he there
rs a sort of facotum Mr. Grinne did much to bring
!
1 / suppose as a instrument no longer 10 be used.
Q. Who showed him asidei A. don't know; he re-
tired when the carriage business was ovcftrown by MI
@, You know he was showed asidei A. know he
O. DO Won know he was in Mr.. Grinnells EMPLOY A.
know he with Mr.. GTinnel and had an ADJOINING
Office | Think he Lett short time before Mr. Grnnell
Q. Do you know whether it was Mr.. Grinuen who
Turned him out or Col. Leet A. don't know; ad-
vscd Mr. Grnnell always TO get rid Of him.
1 Q. Did you advise Col Leet TO get rid Of him A.
took interest in Col Leets business; never had but
one interview with him. ~
@. Did YOU IN this interview in the Arlington House
state that money had been RENTED to Gen Porter A.
No. Sir. .
O. Or to the White House A: No, Sir.
! g. Did YOU ever state I'm Washington that money had
been RENTED the White House coming from the Gene
raj order business A. No, Sir.
IEErs BOASTS.
O. You never believed any such thing, A. always
believed there division between Porter and these
gentlemen; didn't know anything about it; felt con-
frmed in the opinion that there division between
somebody when Bxby told me what he paid Iunder
stood II wac divided the man lie dealt with was
Leet Leet sad in the conversation Uerraet ss sPfaT
thought the secretary was going 70 send t 9ne
lowest Sdder he Would probably get it said he had
! considerable influence in these matters; sald me
D interests Of the Treasury HIMSELF that had heard him
that the letter he was gong 10 send 10 mi
ness to Jersey City and Hoboken aud then he made the
remark have gwen: ! have man that can put his
versation ME- william Huntington merchant In TINS
city within 10 minutes afterward have toldit to Others
Coinmitteef A. To Mr. Bayard and Mr. Casseriy, whom
met in Libertyst while the Committee was situns III
Z o. Before yon testified beforei A. Yes. Sir.
Q. Why didn't you state 1t beforet A Because
Mr. Bsyard said he had not chosen to AJAX the witness
this because his testimony had nj suggested IT,
The witness continued: said nothing about II Defore
because was not asked there was no opportunity TO
nnan inEfa