The New York herald., 1872-07-23

Of corporal punishment f' He said that IN Holland
most criminal and brutal state OF society cock
but as the punishments had been made miider
society also became safer and better.
Sir W. CRoFroN denied that they were In England
advocates OF the doctrine OF corporal punishment
generally. They wished to retain the power in
order that they might not have reason to exercise
that he superintendent prison, bnt how was he to
know that the knowledge that he possessed
the Necessity I Of us having to IT. 4he
nors OF Jails had no power to tnnict corporal pun
ishment unless ordered by the Judges sentence 1t
was very exceptional case to fog q man in Eng
land, and then only In the last resort. :
General PHsBURY was not an advocate for logging,
knowledge Of the possession Of the I power Of nict
ing corporal punishment deferred from crime.
was e IN
tne Legislature gave the power Of corporal pun
Professor MARauARpsRN Germany, observed
which Inferred fom the reduction Of certain er ain
power to dog was the cause Of IT.
MAXIMUM OF IMPRISONMENT:
The next question-.what ought to be the may. *
terms less than life rs-was opened by Professor
Marguardsen. Sir ". Crofton, Dr. Frey IAustrial,
the discussion. It appeared that the time Of celu-
lar imprisonment was different in different coun-
tries. UaN
TREATMENT OF PRISONERS BEFORE CONVICTION.
The Count de Foresta Qtaly) introduced the
% % .ae nd sed that he was
wholly IN favor OF the system adopted In Ireland
He was opposed TO solitary cellular confinement be-
elrects on the health. N. stevens (Belgium) Mr..
II. Pownall and M: vaucherC Cremieux discussed the
Among those present during the day were Lord
Leigh representing Warwickshire, Sir J. Bowrlng,
Sir ]. Packington, M. p, &c.
Proceedings OF the Sixth Days Session.
Yesterday two meetings OF this Congress were
held IN the Middle Temple Hail., the first being an
informal meeting for the interchange Of infOrma-
tion with regard to the working OF reforma,.
anu non-crimnal children; the second being the
second general meeting Of the Congress-, The first
| and whle he was himself rea ling paper Sir Wal
ter Crolton, @. b., took his place.
] The CHAIRMAN In opening the proceedings asked
that the papers should be read hrst, that the dis
cussOn should follow on the whole subject In place
| Of on each separate paper.
| ENGLISH REFORMATORY AND INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS.
- Miss CARPENTER, the founder and manager OF tAe
Red Lodge Girls Reformatory Bristol, read very
| long and interesting paper on the principles and
results of English reiormatory and certified indus
trial schools. She first defined the difference which
Of adults and OF children, the former having ma
tured powers and faculties with experience In life,
ont such experience to work on. OH The child,
she held, must be trained and educated IN
eaS many IN RurSpe Rrss
and the United States in accepting this principle;
but in 1874 the first Retormatory act was passed,
which enabled the Secretary OF State to certify as
| 1T and proper institutions, established and man.
aged by voluntary effort, to which magistrates and
sixteen for term Of years. after brief imprison.
ment: and there was a provision that parents
the expenses provision which checked parental
| neglect. The ".amily system' had been adopted
N most Egdsh Protestant rei1rmatories or. ana csrti
had been aGopted with great advantage before the
discharge o, the Inmates Twenty years. experience
In thn nf nlo hod RIG. nd hn
public Of the soundncss Of the principles which
these schools were established, for the gangs Of
country were now no, longer to be found; the
regular training ns Sf young thieves ,nsi rad
parental suardianship seldom reached more than
second conviction, while formerly six or eight were
not uncommon; the public co.operated IN the work,
tons were received on discharge into the labor
market. The speaker alluded TO the increasing
sion OF these young persons after discharge, when
they were beyond the reach OF their former guar
dams She also urged that there was great neces-
sity Of measures being adopted train and educate
neglected. and destitute children before their GRIM
inality put the country to the expense Of maintain
Ing them for O number OF years in boarding nstitu-
tiOns.
| INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS OF NEW YORK.
| The Rev. Mr. BRACE read paper on the operation
Of Industrial schools in New York. lie explained
at some length the management OF the schools, and
stated that after the children had been instructed
in the schools employment was readily found for
them The particular institution Of which he spoke
had sent out 200 chill children to honest employment
the ranks OF industry, and rescuing them from the
ranks OF vcionsness, idleness and crime;
Sir f. BUXTON. NJ. p, after referring TO Mr.. Braces
| speech said he desired to ask some questions. He
understood that the time during which the children
| were retained in the New York institution was
| about six months-a term which was much shorter
than that during which children were detained in
English institutions, the time in this country being
seldom less than twelve eighteen months. II
this information to the six months was correct,
he desired to know the shorter time OF detention
| American
population rendering IL easier than in this country
| to place child out.
Tic CHAIRMAN said that Sir Fowcl Buxton had
correctly understood the operation OF the industrial
school system in New York, and he stated that the
elected children and it was not held necessary to
keep the children long IN school. It was pecu-
there were great demands .or youthful labor. The
homes there were not luxurious, but, though plain,
| there were no better homes In the world, and the
children grew up into the useful ycoman class.
INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS OF OHIO.
Mr HOWE OF 0nl9 made very iegny nnt iI y,
boys in reformatory and industrial institution in
that State. and he spoke OF kindly and trusting
treatment having had the happiest effects, and he
especially remarked Oh The powerful influence of
| giving boys gardens to cultivate.
Mr.. BAKER spoke OF his twenty-three years. ex-
perience as an English country squire in rcforma
tory labois, and he was followed by Mr. FooTE, Of
Ohio who spoke long and well IN explanation OF the
school work In America He also paid the highest
tribute to the labors OF an Englshman, Mr.. Robert
|
| from his American bretlircn, that Mr.. Wnterton
had done more for tie poor in America than Pea
| body had done for the English poor.
| COMPULSORY EDUCATION OF CHILDREN.
Baron Won HOLTzESDORFF urged that there
! seemed be wanting in England system Of COM
pulsory educa tiOn for children before they came to
| the verge OF crime. The law OF Germany was that
no Child could come before the magistrate for crime
until above the age OF twelve bpt all cases Of crime
under that age were reported to ine scioo,masteis
| who punished. The cases OF crime over twelve and
! under eighteen years OF age were committed to
|
| age OF twenty.
| Mr.. Hendrickson (of Wisconsin, DR.. Guillaume,
! Sir John Bowring and others addressed the meet
| ing.
| Mr.. AsPINALI, q Liverpool magistrate, thought
| that the industrial school question was most
| profitable one to discuss. as from his view 1t was
| better TO strengthen thosc who sandn by means