The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1872-07-06


cry would swamp the Republican party, but
fortunately, the frauds of the Tammany Ring
cane to light about that time, diverted atten.
tion and saved the party.
Correspondent. Then, in the movement for
reform that you are endeavoring to inaugu-
rate here, you are In full accord with Presi-
dent Grant and the Republican leaders of the
North,
Judge Orr. Yes, sir; and now the white
men of the State ought to 60 into the move'
mpnt. They should attend the primary meet.
ings, address the blacks to show them the alb
solute community of interests between the
two races as long as they are both residents Of
the same State, and equally dependent for
success upon its prosperity, and open their
eyes to the enormous robbsrIes that have been
perpetrated by the scoundrels now In power.
Correspondent. Yes, sir; but cannot they do
all this without embracing Grantism, which
they look upon as having contributed to a
very large extent to the very evils they now
seek to reform? The white vote In October
would be just as effective for reform, whether
in November it was cast for Greeley or Grant.
Judge Orr. They canRot gain the control of
the minds of the colored people unless they
absolutely aud in good faith accept regular
Republicanism. 1t is not their votes that our
cause needs 80 much as their influence In lead
Ing the colored people to vote. We ask the
white men of this State to take up Grant for
the sake of State reform, In which they have a
direct and personal interest, and give up
Greeley and his promises of National reform,
In which tit such thing be necessary at all)
they caR have only a remote or secondary
ioterest. There Is no middle course, and they
have got to swallow Grant If they want to
secure reform at home.
Correspondent Well, it ought at least
to console them that Greeley Is sure of his
election with or without the vote OF South
Carolina, and In all the estimates for the
coming Presidential canvass this State is con.
oeded to Grant, and still his defeat shown to
be pretty certain.
Judge Orr. do not admit that; but we will
all know better about 1t after the election. In
the meantime, what remains for US to do is to
attend the primary, township and county con-
ventions, and see to 1t that sufficient number
of honest men, black and white, ale sent to the
State convention to insure the nomination OF
| honest men. This ought to be done at once,
| for the rascals that we seek to defeat are
| already In the field using all their power,
| plunder aud patronage to get that convention
filed In their favor, while our organization Is
only just begun.
Correspondent. What white men, belonging
to this State. can you mention who are with
you In this new movements
Judge Orr. In this part OF the State there
are good many. IN Abbeville County there
are Dr.. Limbecker, Mr.. McCasland, Mr.. Tar
rant, the Tolberts, Jacob Miller. At Able
Vile Courthouse, Mr.. McKeller. At Green.
wood, Mr.. R. E. Hill, Robt Jones, T. B. Mil
ford, j. P. Dupree, W. D. Mars, W. q. Tag
CART and James Martin. In GreenvIlle there
is Captain Minis Sullivan, Mr. A. Blyth, Mr.. W.
q. Watson and others. Here In Anderson
there are Messrs. J. 8. Murray, J. C. Feather
ston and Warren Wilkes. In Plckens there
are Colonel 8. D. Goodlet and Mr.. G. L. Hol-
lingswortn. There are good many others IN
these and other counties whose names can
not think of, aud there are others who have
written to me to ask about the new move
nent, but have not yet committed themselves
10 Its favor. Besides, my recent speeches In
Columbia and Abbevllle upon this subject,
am going to speak at Greenvllle tomorrow,
the 4th: at Anderson, on Saturday, the 9Th; at
walhaa, on Tuesday, the 9th, ana at Pickens
on Tuesday, the 23d. By the way, in your tel.
egraphlc report Of my speech at Columbia,
and In your editorial remarks upon 1t, you
have done me an Injustice, unintentlonal.
suppose, in making 1t appear that while refut-
Ing the charges of nepotism against Grant
made similar charges against the former rul-
ers and statesmen of South Carolina. What
meant to say was, not that those gentlemen
had appointed relatives to office, but that GER
tain favored families, which seemed to have
large share in controlling the affairs OF the
State, appeared to always have plenty OF their
members In official positions. The Hayne
family, for Instance, think, seldom had less
lions of power and trust.
Correspondent. What about the gift-taklng!
Judge Orr. Well, part of what said upon
that subject was said ss joke. When said
that, when in Washington, had received q
present referred 10 the time, many years ago,
when, being speaker of the House of Repre-
sentstives, 1 had been presented with gold
pencil by the boys employed In the House as
pages.
Correspondent. Whom do you propose as
Governor upon the reformed Republican
| ticket?
Judge Orr. Oh, don't know. There are
half dozen good men who might be named,
with either OF whom I should be satisfied. I
do not want lt-would not have lt-nor any
other official position on the face of the earth
to which could be elected or appointed. l
have held Office ever since was boy, and
am tired of 1t. l would resign my judgeship
tomorrow, If I had any other way to support
my family. Aud that is something that will
give me strength In the convention. can
say to thsm: "There Is no Office under the sun
that you can give me, or that will take.
| have no desire for Office, no selfish interest to
subserve, no choice of candidates between
honest men. and all that want Is to 500 re.
form In our State Government" There is
Judge 8. W. Melton, who would make good
Governor, or G. D. Melton, of Columbia, or