The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-03-16

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out to him the evils which threatened US from the
manner in which the Young Democracy were trying
to break up everything; don't think ever talked
TO him except In the presence OF some other Scna-
for; believe Senator Lewis and most Of the other
Republican senators were present once; am con-
Gdent never spoke with him alone.
Q. DID You ever call On hIm7 A. am confident
never called on him. ana don't think lie ever
called on me.
q Do yon know whether anybody else ever had
any conversation with Senator Wood Oh that SUD-
Ject or iTed TO influence him In behalf OF that mea-
cure A. don't except that they were the
COMMON TOPICS OF CONVERSATIONS;
my conversation was never private; never had
minutes private conversation with Mr.. Wood;
was very much Interested in the passage Of that
I'LL.
q. DO You know o! any influence being Wrought TO
bear On senator Wood by any other person TO
kecnre his Influence or the passage OF that NE sure
A. NO other except the influence that was gene
rally brought 10 Gear all The members OF the re-
publican party: they were in favor Of making tine
election law, or the registry law, az il was called,
more stringent; the so-callea young Democracy"
opposed the churier; ! was in favor Of 1t.
4. Do understand You 10 say that yOu don't
Know OF any influence beng brought TO bear on re-
publican senators? A. Only through their advo-
caey vi tbs pas sige OF the e.ceiiou or registry law.
Y. 10 yon know whether any money was paid or
attempted 10 tie used by ANY person or persons VINO
are known as lobbyists Ia inhaence IL or for the
purpose. 0I securing innuencel A. J have no
k"owedge VIVA, the lobbyists did In lie matter.
CHiLDI-lkE IN&oCENCE.
q. Do You know whether any OF these lobbyists
were employed TO use Ileir lniuenae with senator
Wood III inns mal,erf A. do not.
Y. We're any afnonnts placed IN their hands for
The purpose n The shape OF money! a. Not TO my
knowledge.
They were all riendy with u, as they had been for
years.
q. Is that the only inducementS A. IN matter
Ike TINS Uhey AL taSe sides.
e. Do you know A. ID. Barbers A. lido.
q DID he make any enorts to secure The passage
OF That bill2 \. | DON'T recoect thar lie dld. lie
was my friend and presume assisted.
o. Was ne ever employed by YOU or ov any one
else to vOur knowledge A. He never was.
q DO you know OF have you been told that any
money was used OF attempted 10 he used TO secure
the inhuenoe OF any member OIL the Legislature for
that measures A. | do not know ana have not
been tod, except through newspaper reports or In
casual conversation that have not preserved in my
memory and by general ruInor.
Here the witness was examined as to what the
TWO per cen; OIL was, and by what vote 1t Was car
2. Barrier is man who works around the Legs.
IGNORANT or BARBER.
Q. Did you not understand that lie was employed
Genera r"Mor WHICH does not Govern NV opnon
q. have you not heard so from him A. no Sill.
q, lave YOU ever had any t. ansaction with him
winch would lead you to so suppose? A. No, sir
q. Have you ever had any money TRANSACTIONS
with Senator Woods A. Some time during the
ducng Mr.. chamberlain 10 me, stating lhat THIS
Chamberlain was connected with q new disabling
the other way, l am not quite certain, and
he desired to open an account with the Tenth Ma.
tlonal Bank, or wniGn was director ana Asked
Mr.. Bliss President, and Mr. Palmer, cashier OF the
bank, introducing Mir. Chamberlain, stating the
circumstances, AMI requesting them to open an ac-
count with him; day or two after Bliss and Palmer
asked me II knew anything about Chamberlaln's
responsibility, az he wanted 10 get note discounted
for certain amount; don'e know the amount;
SAID dlun't know any thing about him: they asked
me II wound endorse it, and said no; did not
propose to PM myself on the back Of any MANS
paper; Chamberlain, THINK, called day OF two
alter at my Office.
he was very persistent and annoyed me great
deal. so finally said, don't know nythlng ABOUT
amount, ana II you VIII get his nOte or his endorse
ment u! Will discount ~ few days aitertnat he
paid II, giving my own check, tnink on he Tenth
National Bank; ne SAIL he only wanted the money
FOR a lew months: When that note became due
senator Wood wrote to me ASKING a renewal;
think he sent me % check by Chamberlain or
snroug 'he man e of ,nG ,s run o. se a
been pursued; J. think Nh. Wood must have IN MS
possession the checks for the amount OF interest.
Inc notes were three months hotes; the first was
given some time IN the summer OF 1870; think III
August because the last fell due In November; the
renewed note was given on the day the previous
came due, allowing three days OF grace and think
all the checks nave passed through the Dank; the
last check, think Was drawn on country bank !;
1t may have been The Bank OF Geneseo; am not
positive; the last note came due IN November last,
and senator Wood ASKED If would not let the note
lie over for lllte While, and he would make ar
rangemcnts TO take 1t up: IL was never protested,
nor any OF the others; the first note given me was
THE TENTH NATIONAL BANK
for collection ana then Withdrawn: this present
note l nave IN my pocket was deposited III the
ocean Bank believe, and those figures on the back
theirs the rst mole was deposited iii the Tenth
National Bank about the time received IT. all the
notes are IN about ms same f0rm the majority or
them, believe, were renewed before they became
antrn
up Withdrew them, and held them until received;
they were never used except TO deposit In tile bank
previous to this original note any business lransac.
tion with senator wood; MI. Wool. ut that time.
resided IN Gcneseo 34O miles rom New York.
Q. DID Nh. Wood furnish you any security? A. I
never asked any: talked to Chamberlain; was
satisfied Mr.. Wood was good for the amount.
q. Was ChamDerlain5 name on any OF this paper /?
A. DON'T know; never cOnsiuered his name worth
anything.
Q. Did you make any investigation into the fnan-
cial standing OF senator WoOdY A. Ineyer did, but
talked about him, anu was told he stood well anu
q. OF whom dId you inquirer A. l don't recol.
lect; asked just as would OF you, as to what
we're his general characteristics; could tell OF MIN
Just as | can OF any member OF The senate or any
member OF body OF men with whom associate.
was made orlgnallyY A. TO chamberlain.
O. Upon whose ORDER A. think Chamberlain
able TO senator Woods order on the Tenth National
BanK, or it may have been the Broadway; had ac-
counts with DOtn; III was never part OF my DuSl
ness TO loan money, but have always been in the
habit Of loanlng money TO my trends; whenever
any OF my friends have applied to me for ADVANCES
1t has always been my custom TO make them as an
accommodation, but not as a business; never mad
any other moneyed transactions with Senator wood
except as stated.
@. Has senator Wood ever applied to you for a
loan except in this matterS A. Mr.. Wood last
winter or winter before, am not certain was
very anxious mat should become ccnversant with
the details OF that dstillery business and Tor that
purpose Chamberlain and Mr LIBBY, whom had
known before. called on me and showed me all
ABOUT IT, and at one time thought would 60 into
the business; thought 1t was
GOOD THING,
but after examination It did not look quite so W ell
as at first, ana concluded not to 10
into 1t; Chamberlain, when the first note
became due, came 10 Inc and said he
would like to take IL up; said I should be very
happy-money was cash just now; oh he said, 1