The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1872-10-24
THE NOVEMBER BATTLE.
THE CHANCES OF THE CONTEST IN
NEW YORK STATE.

WORDS OF Cneer 1oE
Herald's Estimate OF Mr.. Greeley's
strensth-It Predicts that He VIII
Sweep the Great Empire State.
The New York Herald has been sending q
large force of reporters throughout the length
and breadth of New York State, with a view
of forming an accurate estimate of the
chances of the Presidential struggle. and en-
bodies the results In q leading editorial pub
lished In Its issue Of Monday last, from which
We take the following Interesting extracts:
While our special campaigners in the interi-
or of New York have been very poorly re-
warded In their searches for antl-Greeley or
.,straight-out' Democrats, they have discover
ed, without difficulty, q p pretty strong o9s force ID
anti-Grant Republicans. The conclusion natu.
rally follows that inasmuch as there does not
appear TO be any appreciable strength as q
disturbing element in these Democratic Bour-
bons, and as the anti-Grant Republicans 40
exist In considerable numbers IN all tne
stronghofds of the Republicans. the chances
in this State are still In favor OF Greeley ana
Brown. even should their majority in this city
fall 30 low as forty thousand. In this connec-
ton. our State election of last November 10 no
test whatever; for upon the terrible nue. ana
CRY raised against the abounding and astouna,
ing corruptions OF the old exploded
Tammany Ring the Democracy moo asy were a Sei
on q short popular vote the election, even on
their State ticket, went against them by de.
fault. But still, upon these fgures-the worst
That can be supposed tor the Democrats OF this
cIty-on their Presidential ticket, they Will
have q majority here Of forty thousand. Ada
to this say i've thousand Greeley Republl.
cansIa moderate eslimste-and this majority
ia enlarged to forty.fve thousand. The Dem
ocratIc majority IN this city for Seymour In
1863 was sixty thousand, upon the largest
popular vote ever cast in city and State, and
Seymour carried the State by ten thousand
majority. Upon The popular vote, lhen, OF
the State, of 1868, including this city, sno
thousand majority, they will lose the electoral
vote of New York by some FIVE thousand
majority. But supposing that In the State at
large outside this city We transfer only ten
Thousand Republicans Of 1868 land they may
number thirty thousand) from Grant to Gree
lev. the State, with the loss of these ten thou
sand men, Ia lost to Grant by fifteen thousand
majority, assuming that this anti-Greeley
Democratic Bourbon element signifies nothing:
It NAV be said. however, that the general
moral effect of the recent elections IN penn-
sylyanla and Ohio, to say nothing OF INDIANA,
must necessarily strengthen and encourage
the administration party IN New YORK ana
weaken and discourage the opposition: But,
taking the elections OF 1868 as our guide, this
rule win not apply as to the decentralization of
the opposition In New York. In aS6S Penn
sylyanla, Ohio and Indiana were all carried by
the Republlcans-for on the main test, even IN
Indiana, their victory was clean ana ciesr.
Such, too, was the. depressing effect OF these
results upon the Democracy that they con-
tossed at once that the main battle OF NoVem-
Der was lost by these incidental defeats. To-
deed, to their encouragement was added the
Decentralization resulting from a deliberate
movement among some OF the party mana
gers for q change Of base In q change In their
Presidential ticket for November. And yet
the Democratic party In New YORK, Wlth all
these dIscouragements against them, on BY
tar the heayiest vote ever polled In the State,
carried It for Seymour and Blair by ten thou
sand and tor Hoffman by twenty thousand ma
We may, then, logically assume the position
that the Empire state this year WILL De con-
tested by the opposition coalition over every
inch of grour d from Monlauk to Dunklrk ana
from the st. lawrence to me PennsyiVania
the State ticket, for the Congressman and the
members OF the Legislature involved IN the
GENERAL struggle. We have no satisfactory
Evidence that the Democratic party OF the
State has been materially weakened since
1858 or by the new departure Tor Greeley ana
Brown, while, on the other hand, our uaVel-
ling correspondents, instructed to IND out
and report az. far as they can the exact sltua-
ton of the c%ontending parties and their apga-
rent losses and gains, assure us that the ne.
publIcans who have gone over TO Mr.. Greeley
form a very considerable accession. 10 the
Democrats In many of the Interior counties.
Hence the vigorous struggle which the oppo-
eition alliance are making n will make TO
the end of the general contest for the Empire
State.
they count upon 1t, too. not as the Demo,
Gratis counted upon 1t In 1858, as their citadel
and base OF operations, to be saved from the
general wreck of the party at all hazards, for
another campaigns, but as still q possible oal,
snce of power BY which this Presidential
struggle may be determined. The opposition
alliance cannot deny that Genera: Grant,
without New York, may be elected 10 1917 as
he was In 1865; but they do not admit TINS
time that the loss of Pennsylvania and Ohlo
in October decides the Issue In emf
They claim New York throughout the coun-
try, and throughout the country their conf
dence In New York still gives them hope for
the White House and strength In every State
that may be considered debatable ground.
The Republicans, therefore, who are counting
uDon carrying New York for Grant and VII.
son and DIX and Tremain have still the odds
against them, and In closing up the gaps In
their State line Of battle they must act with
AKIN and discretion or their whole line may
be thrown into confusion and defeat.
THE OHIO LIBERALS.