The Hawaiian gazette. [volume] (Honolulu [Oahu, Hawaii]) 1865-1918, 1872-07-03
Legislative Proceedings.
FoRrr. EIeHru pAr, June e8, Isl

FORTY EIGHTH DAY, June 70, 1874
The Assembly met at the usual hour, the Presi-
dent His Ex. P. Nahaolelua in the Chair. Prayer
BY the Chaplain. Journal of the preceding session
read, and on motion, approved.
Assembly proceeded to the order OF the day, the
same being consideration of Appropriation Bill in
Committee Of the Whole-Mr. Nawahi in the Chair.
Royal Palace 100000
Mr.. Hitchcock moved TO amend to 25, 900 for pur-
chase of a site for the New Palace.
Mr. Carter thought that If the Ministers had
pledged themselves for the purchase OF lot for the
Palace grounds it would be as well to appropriate
the sum recommended by Mr. Hitchcock.
His Er the Minister Of Interior explained at some
length the necessity of a Palace, owing TO the
dilspidated condition of the present one that the
present time for building New Palace was op-
perfume, as we had so many good mechanics
among us who were now busy on the New Gov
ernmeut Building, and could be easily obtained
when that was completed without the expense OF
sending for them, which would be the case, if the
building was not commenced within the next two
years.
Mr.. A. F. Judd said that he had heard the remarks
made by His Ex. the Minister OF Foreign Affairs
yesterday, regarding his learning. &c and wished he
had been better boy AID applied himself more to
his studies, but as II he regretted very much that
he not better versed in law and was not as flu
enf with the Latin tongue, as His Elk. the Minister
Of Foreign Affairs was with the Hawaiian. He in.
tended TO reside here, and hoped day he might
reach the Office of Minister OF Foreign Affairs then
having attained the height of bis ambition he would
be ready to psss away. He was opposed to the item
for new palace, as he did not see the immediate
necessity Of it, and did not think the way for a ma.
ton to progress, by fitting up expensive build
ings. He could the necessity for the Palace
at present, as the outlook on the future was not
very iattering, and in addition to our financial con-
diiion, be noticed that we have sickness among
us, and the state of the population is not encourag
ing TO say the least as by the Tables 1t will be seen
that the births fall far short Of the Deaths aud
have but little 10 warrant such an expenditure. If
the King wanted to give party to his friends, he
could very easily have it the Hotel if the Palace
was not good enough; and if The King did have a
new Palace, he did not think it would make much
difference as regards entertainments. He was op-
posed TO saddling debt of half million Of dollars
upon 5000 people, for improvements that were
of no immediate benefit and could not conscien-
tiously vote blindly, considering the present state
Of affairs
His Ex. the Minister of Interior thought the re-
marks made by the last speaker were full of bun
combe, and showed bis true feeling towards His
Msjesty, by the sneering and coutemptuous manner
in which he alluded to a new Palace by saying that
he could 20 TO the Hotel when he wanted 10 give a
party-why can't he go to Chinese Restaurant?
But there were Others in the community who thought
and felt that the Chief of the State ought
TO have proper residence, and place where he
could, with that dignity which belongs to bis sta
ton in life, receive those who were presented TO
him; and nothing bad greater influence in blasting
the minds of strangers towards Government than
the manner and style 10 which its Chief receives
visitors. a great deal was said about the public
debt and was held up great bugbear Brighten
the Representatives His Excellency thought the
debt of the Government very small and a trife so
long as the money was put TO useful purpose. The
population had nothing to do with the question at
issue; the question was whether there should be a
new Palace, whether it was unnecessary, or |
whether ii was necessary to keep the Government
going or not; and is the King to have q residence
suitable to His position, is the Assembly going
10 let Him go TO the Hotel a Chinese Restaurant
He had word to say to the Natives in the Assembly
and that was this: When the time comes that Ha /
waiians lose respect for their Sovereign, their flag
and their country of which they have reason TO be
proud, and proud, ii would be time to transfer
This Government to some other Power. 1t was TO /
the interest Of The people TO respect their King and
do all in their power strengthen local Institutions
they were different from foreigners, because if .
foreigner did not like laws and institutions he
could clear out but it not so with the Natives
BE hoped the Members would vote for the item, as
new Palace was necessary.
Mr.. A. F. Judd said that he did not speak of the
King in sneering manner, aud did not really be-
ieve the Munster in his heart thought he did As
regards Palace, he said he would vote no, at the
sk of being called reasonable, and lacking in re-
'pect for His Majesty. That would be his vote, and
be willing TO accept the situation.
Mr. Kupakee was in favor of Palace, but thought
We could not afford to build one just now, as the
nation had enough to carry for the present; would
avor the amendment of $4,000, as a starter
Mr. Rice moved to amend to $4,000.
Mr.. Kaai was in favor of a new Palace, and thought
that anything for the Chiefs of the land ought to be
given with liberal hand
Mr.. Z. h. Judd was in favor of 8 new Palace, but
not of the appropriation of $4,000 for the
hat be did not believe it would be expended within
he next two years; be should vote for $4,000,
unless the Ministry gave him their guarantee that
bis $4,000 would be expended, and the Palace
completed before the next session OF the Legisla-
lure. !