The sun., 1872-04-30


ls famillarly known-in Pennsylvania. Calling |
upon him and frankly stating the object Of my |
visit, was cordially received, and below will be |
found the subject OF our conversation. Judge |
Black seemed very unwilling TO speak on tho |
subject Of general politics. As to the Cincinnati |
Convention, II was not his business TO under |
stand IL or the movement in which IL had Its |
origin. He had not the least Idea who they
would nominate, nor did he know who they
ought to nominate, The Pennsylvania Domoc-
racy, with which he expected to act "a long "a
he lived, had no candidate before that Conyen-
ton.
Rcporter-Tsit II not possible you may vote for
the candidate there agreed uponf
Judge Dlack-That depends.
Reporter Depends upon what?
Judge Black-Upon several circumstances.
LET THE NATION Re SAVED IN TINE.
Reporter-You have been misrepresented, and
I think misunderstood. You are believed In
some quarters to be reckless and out OF patience
with everything but the old Democracy. Even
for that you are supposed to have no wish, ex-
cept that II may become a martyr TO Its prin-
clples by letting It's worst enemies beat IL for
| ever.
Judge Back-U the Democratic party can save
| its principles by giving up all chance ofpowerand
place for It's men, it ought to accept the sacrifice
| joyfully; but practically that Is nonsense.
political truth triumphs only In the victory OF
its friends. The salvation OF the country Is
| bound up In our success, and we ought to sue
| ceed II We can. We owe It alike to the memory
| Of our fathers and to the interests Of our chill
dren Even partial success Is bettcs than a clean
defeat for anything which rebukes the corrup-
/ ton Of the faction now in power will arrest the
/ downward plunge OF our affairs. Our descent II
not soon stopped, will bring us to the last stage
| Of political degradation.
| Rcporter-YOu mean despoti-mI
| judge Dlacl-No; l mean something much
| worse than any despotism can ever be In civil
| lied country-a republic thoroughly rotten.
| Rcportcr-You think, then, that the election
of the Cincinnati ticket might at least break the
fall Of the country, and give the Democracy fu-
| ture chance of redeemlns 1t altoGetheri
GENUINE DEMOCRACY.
| Judge Black II might OF itself work out per-
| fcot and Immediate redemption, and democratize
| the nation at once. Democracy means common
sense aud common honesty organized for politi-
cal purposes and applied to public Affairs That
is the substance of all its platforms, and the OBJ
ject OF all its struggles. Its success results In
obedience to law In the practical recognition OF
individual rights and the autonomy Of the
States; In the faithful distribution Of justice (;
| In liberty, order, and peace; In that moral eeya-
| tlon which alone can give dignity to the charac-
| ter or stability 10 the Institutions OF a free
| people, Now, the men OF Cincinnati say
| that they are for all these things; and
| whosoever can say so much az that and say II
| sincerely, whatever he may have been heretofore
| or whatever he may call himself now Is a
| Democrat. The speeches of Irumbull and
| schurz at the Cooper Institute, so far as they
| concern all present questions, mi ght have been
made by the purest Democrat in the land. The
issues they make with the Administration arc
precisely those which we have made all along
| They come exactly upon our ground. They op-
| pose the radical party because OF Its corruptons
its reckless expenditure OF public money, III
contemptuous disregard Of constitutional obll
, | cations, its shameless enslayement Of tn,
I | Southern States, its multiplied acts Of oppres
sion and robbery all over the country. The!
propose to redeem the country from the hidcou
: ruin which threatens us II reform be not effect
. | ed. Should we not help them in their work I
| we cam or rather why should we dsddn theil
T assistance In performing our own2
=, LET CINCINNATI ~ TRUSTED.
q Reporter But these are only professions of
/ faith which may be simulated, Of prlnclpl,
e | which may he abandoned, Of good intent On
1 which make payemonts in the rego below.
Judge Black True enough, but We must trur
r somebody, and think the members OF the Gin
= cinnau Convention are worthy of confidence
=, There may be among them some converts with
T. ont conviction VINO VIII hdrhHhde upon lic mr.
e temptation; but II the Convention will plodg
itself and its constituents to stand upon III
r. Constitution, To restore tho lihertio- Of the peo
u pie and to introduce hone IS and economy int
| the administration Of the finances n they wi
e put their opposition 20 Gen. Grants Adm mis-
+ tration upon tho specific ground that II is cor
- rupt, lawless, and oppressive; and if they wi
i crown their work by nominating candidate d
g known integrity and ability, the jealousy whic
n refuses TO believe in their sincerity would l.
d Nery unreasonable.
GRANT TRUD AND FOUND WANTING.
g Reporter BJt the Philadelphia Convcntio
can also make professions Of honesty and ddc
e ity TO the Constitution, and Grant himself ca
q bs as profuse In promises as anybody Woul
n you accept their pledges and act with them2
4 Judge Black-No. They have been tried; "
IL must Judge them 10y their acts, not by their d,
l. claratous. liy their works go shall know then
i- Gen. Grant has committed himself lrrevocahl
p 20 an the measures Of the Radical party, hov
l- ever Unconstitutional and however dishuncs
"a lie has surrendered his conscience Into the
"A keeping, and they have paid him for doing b,
le he has the price IN his pocket. There Is u
lJcus penpcnitU for him while ne bears such rel
tons to them. II he would return tho prcscu
ho has received, roconyCy tho lands and rector
the chattcls, ho would bo free man, and h
declarations for the future might be entitled
some credit. Az II Is he must DO as tho cnomi,
D. OF tho Constitution and public liberty bid hi
no to dI. They paid him not 10 serve tA, o,uuu
nj but to eorvo thom,
Is, TlIn JvDuE'a pCNoCRATIC CANDIDATE
no Reporter WIN YOU pormit mo 10 ask wl.o
VS. your candidate FOR tho Presidency
Judge Black II you moan 10 ash whom