Mineral Point tribune. (Mineral Point, Wis.) 1869-1938, 1872-08-15
Carmichael refused to show any

letters, alleging that he had already
shown letters to the editor of this pa
per. He said he did not understand
Mr.. Greeley as desiring there should
be secrecy about the movement. (Pre
cisely how he desired TO be understood
here is uncertain.)
The first plan, Carmichael said, was
to call convention in Otsego county
to nominate Mr.. Greeley, and start the
campaign in that manner.
Last April Mr.. Greeley wrote to Car
michael saying that he believed the
Democrats preferred candidate from
their own ranks, and would not unite
in his support, therefore he desired to
be withdrawn from the canvass. But
Carmichael prevailed upon him to
stick to it until they knew what the
Democratic leaders would do. It was
not best to back down before they had
time to work the thing up
CoRRoBoRATIvE STATEMENT.
The Republican also gives the SUBJ
stance of independent statements by
several reputable citizens of Otsego
County, mainly of Una,..illa, relating to
Carmichael, the Greeley and Seymour
letters, &c. We quote two of them:
Henry Van Deusen, at Unadilla,
has seen some of Mr.. Carmlchael's
letters from Greeley and Seymour
quite large number from Greeley.
Carmichael read Greeley's letters to
him, and they all had more or less ref
erence to Greeley being q candidate for
the Presidency. One letter from Gree
ley received the last of April, spoke of
the necessity of some Democrat going
to Cincinnati in order to secure Gree
ley's nomination there, and his prefer
euce was that Carmichael should 90.
Hon. Robert w. Courtney, of Sidney
saw Carmichael last March, at his
Courtney s. house, and had consldera.
BILE conversation with him on the sub
ject of running Greeley for the Presl-
dency. Carmichael produced a letter
from Greeley on the subject of holding
a Convention to nominate him in Otse
go County, at which he advised that
such q movement at that time would be
premature
AFFIDAvITS.
The Republican also gives two affida-
Wits of gentlemen who were more init.
mately acquainted with the contents of
the letters than most of the others.
One of these. Mr.. Charles S. Carpenter,
is the editor of the Oneonta Herald,
weekly Republican newspaper. A part
of his information was of an earlier
stage of the conspiracy than that OF
other witnesses; it did not include the
Seymour branch of the conspiracy.
The position of Mr.. Greeley concern
ing the rebel soldiers he stated some
time ago in his journal. Below we
give these alfidavits;
AFFIDAVIT or MR.. CARPENTER
ONEoNrA, July II, 1872
c. s. Carpenter being sworn, deposes and
saws that hc is a resident of OnoOnta, Otsego
county in the state of New York, and that he
il we'll acquainted with Lewis Carmichael OF
Unadia IN said county. That Carmichael
has for many years been a Democrat, inter-
ested in County, State and National Conyen-
tions, which he frequently attended and that
he has for about year past been engaged III
seeking a Democratic candidate fnr the Pi es-
idency. That Carmichael was las, iall in cor
r spondence With Horace Greeley and Hora-
ito Seymour, on the question uf making new
issues one Of which was the payment Of pen
Sj0nS to disabled reject soldiers, as we'll as to
Union soldiers and that deponent saw letters
from said Greeley anu from Seymour, on that
question. That one Of q 'eeleyS letters which
aeponeut recognized by what he knows
of Grecloy's Handwriting; and 10y the Tribna-
heading; tins letter being an answer to let
ter OF Carmichae, asking his views on the
confederate pension question: eXpr' ssed the
views of Mr.. Gre ecy as fGrOrubie TO ne pass
age Of q lar proceeding that The general GoceR-
niert pGy pensions 10 Southern diSdbjed soldiers;
although he tGreelcy) doubted whether Con.
gress would pass such Il bill. That depouent
read the letter carefully, and this was Its true
expression and meaning; aud II was reely dls-
cussed between Carmichael and deponent.
That this letter was, according TO dtponents
best recollection, dated in August, or early IN
September, 1871, Deponent saw a letter from
HOrauu seymour ON the same subject, at
about the same time. Mr.. Seymour express
ed himself IN opposition 10 making the pension
question dH issue then,
chat deponent also saw another letter of
Horace Greeleys addressed 70 Carmichael, III
which Greeley invited Carmichael to call on
him in New York, to talk over political issues
that had been preached between them; and
separate part OF that letter. which deponent
diu not have an opportunity OF reading care
fully EXPRESSED, as depouent casually noticed,
and vas distinctly formed BY Carmichael,
the possibility that Greeley would accept the
nomination for President II the nomination
was rendered 70 Allu III 100 Ahut taIillthdel
was absent from Otsego shortly afterWard. and
received from Greeley, as Carmichael distinct
IN aud umphatIcaly stated 10 Inn, M. cree
le,fS poStire consent 10 be the Democratic can
dtiaie for President in 1872, If the nomination
were gwen to him. The date OF this letter was
in October, 1871
That Carmichael oudeavored to induce de-
uuuvut ta consent to advocate paying pensions
to Southern soldiers, as a measure Of conclh-
.at.Dtr hetvepu North ana South and to suO-
port Mr.. Greeley for the Presidency.
Thatitis fully understood betwe, ndeponent
and Carmichael that Greeley was to be pressed
for Democratic nomination, That dcpo eut
REGARDED Carmichael as q candid man, who
treated these subjects with tho utmost serious
ucss:uud that depuneut If fully couyme. d that
his correspondence and interviews, agi their
u Iy-l ,,.,