The New York herald., 1872-08-03


Barrett, who was elected to the Supreme Cour
by the reformers last fall. He has been Identified
with the Apollo Han party since It's first
the successor to- to Mr.. v wicknam wren the iattei
rendered his resignation on Wednesday night.
he, however, peremptorily refused to displace se
good man and declined to act. AS his opinions
are OF great weight with section OF the party, a
reporter called upon him, at hts ONCE, In Nassau
sese Is e
with the sharp eye for which little men are famous,
and speaks with rich and pleasing DOric accent,
which at once prOclams his nationality. The fOl
lowing Is his statement
al have called, Mr.. Barrett to ascertain what you
know about the split in the Apollo Hall organlza-
tion.'
''There ia no split, sir. The organization is not
declmated, nor Is II likely to be, so far as have
this:-Mr. Wickham called meeting the other
night without, 80 far as can understand, consult
Ing any members OF the Executive Cor Committee and and
present which large majority were decidedly
indisposed to entertain: He called In my
summoned meeting but did not state for what
purpose, only that he merely wanted to read a
letter. He and have long been friends, and there
Is no man esteem higher, but think his conduct
on Wednesday night was unparliamentary and
tyrannical. He had no right to force letter from
Der OF us do not believe In the reformation
wrought In the Tammany party, and still enter
tain grave doubts OF its purity believing that a
portion OF the old leaven fingers there still.
Again, our organization was first OF all started
TO correct the gross municipal abuses which then
abounded in the city, and the intention OF Its
founders was to conne its attention solely to local
issues. When Mr.. Wickham then, called upon US
to pronounce upon national question. by cndors-
ing one OF the Presidential candidates. he, In my
opinion, exceeded the limits OF his position and
attempted to direct the organization from its leglt
~ suppose, then, You are acting in sympathy
with Senator O'BrienY"
"Entirely. believe Mr. o'Bren s is actnated n, Gy
view but the public good His conduct at the meet
ing on Wednesday night was fitting to the circunl-
stances in which he found himself placed, and it is
endorsed by large majority OF the delegates who
present. In some OF the papers il Is stated
that large number of those who were present
not delegates. That Is entirely incorrect. The
number OF delegates Is 20, and nearly the entire
body of them was in Apollo Hall. By actual count
than 200 were delegates. know most of them per-
sOnally and can vouch for the accuracy Of the
statement which was given to me by reliable au
thority."
"Are you in favor of the election of Greeley, Mr.
'sMost decidedly not. How could l, as a lifelong
democrat, vote for the man who has been In life
long antagonsm to the principles OF my partyY 1t
would involve the sacrifice Of my political consist
ency; and, furthermore do not think that In the
entire country there can be found man who is SO
entirely untitled for the office OF President. l do
not like Grant, ana do not expect to vote for him
but between the two men prefer Grant to Greeley.
Mr.. Greeley did as much for us as any man IN the
city; but when he is nominated for President, and
am asked to vote Tor him. my God, Sir as an Irish
man and democrat, how can do 1t 7"
''YOu intend to remain neutral then ~
81 intend to do nothing OF the kind. expect to
record my vote for q candidate who will be gen.
tleman, a democrat and a scholar. l am one of the
straight.outs. do not care who knows my Opin-
ions. have never been afraid to give utterance
to them, and in this Greeley question would like
every one to know them."
''Where do you expect your candidate to come
fromy The issue seems to be between Greeley and
Grant.n
"By no means sir. l anticipate great things
from the Convention Of democrats opposed to Gree
ley which Is to assemble at Louisville in September.
believe democrat will be nominated then and
that will be enabled to vote for man OF my own
political creed"
at is rumored Senator OBrien means to support
Grant,
well as any man in the city. He does not support
Grant and is opposed to Greeley, but OF the two
greatly prefers the former He, too waiting for the
appearance OF q democratic candidate, and that was
the main reason why he opposed the action of Mr..
WickhaP. Senator O'Brien has an aspiration how
ever and that is to be Mayor of the city. l have
known him from his bOyhOOd, and though he has
done some foolish things, consider him to be an
honest, upright young man, and one who would do
credit 10 the ofce of Mayor ! think, too his
chances of obtaining the position are good. He Is
certain of getting the nomination from his party,
and II he gets the nomination there is no doubt but
he will be elected. His name is a magnet in the
city, and he has endeared thousands to him by his
many acts OF kindness.
''What is the strength of your organization in the
city,"
.lhe Apollo Hall democracy has membership OF
$1,000 and venture to predict that three-fourths
y
have spoken to most of the prominent leaders, and
have not yet found single man to say he would
vote for him. In the Twenty-1rst district there is
a clear democratic majority OF $500 and in that
district do not believe Greeley could muster 100
oS yS o u S unRSp
cordially disliked. No matter what his present
professions arc, no can forget what he has
been, and he will find few supporters In the Apollo
democracy
81 understood you opposed the resignation Of
Mr.. Wickham ~
would pe serious one. AS sad before enter
tain the highest respect 1or him. No one has
worked more zealousy In the interests OF reform
than he. The amount of the services he has rem
dered are not known to the public. He Is a man of
wealth and influence, and has sacrificed his valuable
time, and contributed his money freely for
Wednesday night cannot be justified, and by it
think he has lost his influence over the organza-
ton and sacrificed his power OF doing good / re-
gret 1t exceedingly. He was power IN the party,
but when he gives up his democratic principles and
Of duty cOmpels me to disagree with him."
''Do you believe the accusations Senator OBrlen
made against him about selling the Apollo Hall
party TO Tammany Hall :"
.'Wel l think he is too pure and high minded
man to descend TO such proceeding as that.
Still, when he was charged with doing so he could
moi clearly explain his position. | have no per-
sonal knowledge OF the circumstance and hope
for Mr.. Wickhams own sake it Is not true may
say in conclusion that Judge Spauding, Alderman
Mehrbach, Mr.. Ottenburgh and all the prominent
members OF the party are with Senator O'Bren
heart and soul, and can assure you Horace Gree
ley will have no chance of getting our support
Judge Hogan has left the city, but il is under
stood that he intends to support Greeley and does
not mean to act with O'Bren. Mr.. Mehrbach has
gone to Saratoga, where Senator OBrlen is also
staying. From present appearances the quarrel
promises to be lively one, and no one can predict
the result.
GRANT AND WILSON BANNER RAISING
There was grand banner raising in the Seven
tecnth ward last evening. The brreet hammer of