The New York herald., 1872-05-15
The General Brigade of Tam
many Braves Arriving.
GREELEY STOCK IN TEE BALANCES
Liberal Republicans, Reformed Tamma-
nyiteS and Old JederSonianS.
What the Democrats May or May
Not Accomplish.

/ ROCHESTER,, May IL, 1879.
The agony OF the wire pullers and the internal
working Of the gastric vessels has begun. The old
| city Is to be once more crowded by the anxious
| spirits OF democracy who nit around wherever
there s any party business to be done as surely as
owls In barn or ghosts as connected with church
yards. do not wish 1t to be understood, however,
that regard these noisy followers Of the camp al-
together Is night owls, for they take their prey
when the sun Is at its meridian as well as at mid
night or that they are actual ghosts; any New
Yorker who had encountered these visitors at the
polls felt the weight Of their clubs and the influence
OF their persuasive and real, worldly elOquence,
would simply discard such grim assertion. Yes
terday matters were lively enough, with indica-
tions that Greeley was all and in all, but as the
delegates came In from the western portion OF the
State we find the Greeley stock not quite 20
promising. Some OF the old hard shells seem un-
compromising In their opposition.
There is some question tonight whether the
Democratic State Convention Is inooulated with
liberal repubicanism, or Is inclined to take Its
chances on free and independent issue. Among
those who DO not wish to be pricked with the libe-
raj republican virus are H. O. Chesbro promi-
nent democrat Of Ontario; Colonel North, Of OF.
sego, and John J. Van Allen, Of Schuyler. These
gentlemen have either been In Fort Lafayette or
might have been. They are sort OF corpOral's
guard for JEFF Davis. In order to give you an idea
OF the views OF these gentlemen (and this may be
taken as representative will give specimen in.
terview with John J. Van Allen rOusing demo-
cratic politician OF Schuyler county who represents
in an eminent degree the true blue, dyed-in- the.
wool Jefrersonian democracy Of the interior.
INTERVIEW WITH VAN ALLEN, OF SCHUYLER
CoBREsPoNDENT-In your Judgment what Is the
feeling among the democracy generally In the rural
districts on the subject Of Mr.. Greeley's endorse
ment by the democracy Ts
ALLEN-As vet there is much diversity Of opinion
among the members Of the democratic party They
are extremely bitter against Grant and his support
ers, and, Indeed, feel considerable alarm for the
future should he be elected for another term Yet
a large majority of the honestthnking men feel
greatly embittered against Greeley, and general
aversion to his support is felt.
CoRREsPoNDENT-wha reasons can you assign
for this
AILEN-Many; among the most prominent OF
which are the following Mr.. Greeley commenced
his political life prominently as supporter Of Har-
rison, and loudly cried for -
'TipPEcANOE AND TYLER TOO,v
assuring the people In the event OF their election
that 80 day and roast beef' followed as
and roast beef like the Dead sea pears, turned to
ashes on their lips. When Cass was nominated in
1913 ne pressed the nomination or Van Buren, on
the free soil Buao platform, but deserted him ana
supported Taylor previous to the close of the can
yass thus ,o;a hs;tfayng the Van Buren, party after
democratic nominee, and procuring the election or
Taylor. The most prominent objection, however
Is the fact that he acted as the backer OF John
Brown, and was at least accessory II not before
the fact, certainly after the fact, to his raid and
murders In Virginia, with which the country is so
GREELEY's RECORD IN THE SOUTH. 81
He did more to hound on the war and drive the
hQn INV nfh
man in the United States, and although he bailcd
Jefferson Davis and has advocated amnesty, yet he
ism maintained In the Southern States by the
party to which he has been attached, and the cleo
the war ended and peace was returned He sup.
ported Grant, wei knowing his incompetency, and
II fact sir no more Objectionable man exists than
that OF the democracy. That party Is made up OF
honest, honest, intelligent men, in the main, who have no
BRAN-BREAD, FREE-TovE PHILOSOPHERS
Ike him. In fact, had search been made among
all those opposed to Grant, no more Objectionable
Indeed, must confess, there is a class Of men In
the rural districts attached to the democratic
most instances, it is sincere They are in most
instances the cormorants aud camp followers of the
party who are not actuated by principles but stand
ready to betrayit any instant when in peru.
crat, that there is much in the Cincinnati platform
that you can cOnscentiously applaud
ALLEN--Great God What Is there in the Gin
cnnat platform to commend IL or its candidates to
the support Of the democracy. Its cup of negro
equality certainly ought not to be pressed to demo-
cratic lips and am certain that st.s
rHEMANSER IN WHICH THE DEVIL ~ WHIPPED
question certainly NOT very taxing with the nI om
OF free trade. We are sick OF Custom Houses, In.
fernal Revenue Collectors, stamps and such abomi-
nations and we desire get rid or them altoge
as well as their advocates.
CoaREsPoNDENT-Do you not allow your preju-
n N Ia mat tnro
ALIEN believe am only expressing the calm
convictions OF the coo-headed members OF our
party VINO live in the rural districts and with
drawn from the neshpots Of ONCE in what say.
CoRREsP0NDEsT-In case the democracy should
nominate Greeley, or fail TO nominate at all, what
in your opinion, would be the effect upon the DEM
ocratic partyS
ALLEN--Itis equivalent to a declaration Of bank
ruptcy-its complete dissolution.
CoRREsPoNDENT-HOw would the dissolution OF
the democratic party affect the future government
ALLEN--ln my Judgment most disastrous,y That
party ls the great bnlwark OF our republican lnst
THOSE WHO FAVOR THE PHILOSOPHER
: Henry Richmond, son OF Dean Richmond, or
Genesee; General Farrell Of Niagara; Elmer P.
George j. Magee, OF Schuyler, and Gideon J. Tucker.
OF New York: John Fox, General Slocnm, OF Kings
OF Broome; +. p. Hart, OF Chemung-sre among
those who favor democratic endorsement OF the
nomination Of Greeley The Greeley stock is vaci
lating; one hour 1t is mp and then falls again. There
are new delegations to arrive this evening by the
Ellie train, via Elmira, who will all go for Greeley.
meeting OF the Democratic State Committee,
Samuel J. Tilden, chairman, was called for nine
O'Clock tonight, ~ the Osborn House, but the
meeting WIS postponed until tomorrow, at ten
O'Clock A. N.
NEW TICKET Is THREArENEp
In OF the endorsement or Greeley. IL has been
the subject OF general remark that such democratic
leaders as Horatio Seymour sanford Y. Church, Gov
ernor H0ffman, Amasa J. Parker, Frank Herman,
Charles 0'Conor, aud men OF That stamp, are not
here to mould this curious Convention into some
legitimate democratic shape. IT. seems TO lbe
pushed on as if a freshet had occurred in the GEN
esee, and that another "Sam Patch leap'' was TO
be made by somebody.
CARD FROM Mr. GREELEY.
The Nominee for the Presidency With
drw from .J0mrvn syS