New-York tribune., 1872-05-25

,roat ard kindred nations. " take no ryer orSe,t
sSsss. so sS Ss ' ss II" "s 90 e
the Treaty Of Washington ! bel"Vo n 70 'Hm the Se
uo 0 Of these negotiations II difference had arisen n
between the countries OF wcn one H the other
Vas question of great injustice to ise ana 1e Of
@sht il was question even 4 only as atep u, in
form making pelD'1 m erca ,mr was such
hat n would have been impossible to make the Iii
we have now done toward settlement when .ni rned
he SATISFACTORY TO this country honorable TO tne ~
States and of great advantage to the pese t yonr
ordships on both sides of the House for the % e
Won have extended TO me- and am sure YOU WI, orent
TO make an appeal TO yontha. we should 90 into
discussion of this case" lCheers.I .
Earl Russell in reply said: 81 have no DOUBT whh.
over my noble friend has been perfectly sincere III al m
endeavors to make treaty with the umteu ota'cS
onld he honorable both countries and that ne ne,e Yer
Intended that these claims should be put Ter
American Government Now my lords sna In nv mnst
90 6ates anterior 10 the Treaty Of Washington Dut
refer for a few mOmentsl to circumstances VIII last
CURED in this House on the tatad I'm o nv noble
and learned lord opposite lOrd Calrnsl Who' VIII nr
as an advocate judge has had perhaps phsr member
perence or greater experience than any o'ne in bIs
df this House and who likewise is second TO none % @
capacity for judging OF the terms or 4i ISaticn IN at
noble and learned Lord referring 10 the under
these preposterous claims could have been lnade
the Treaty negotiated by the noble EAR "o b had exam-
me the Foreign Office went on 10 s, & ~ new treaty
ined the protocols and had examined tne ne new n sef mn
and he perceived that those same claims sn. m 10 iwpor
under the Treaty of Washington. Jhat was an inp1
ant statement coming from such an autnoIIy at az" i'm
should have thought that 1t would prOuuce eao,an
preston Treaties had been signed by when
fiaries have often afterwards been rleoteu pS oo
ernmen in whose name they nave DSdp Of unh treaty as
this taking warning from the staten Vi euo s,ar
learned lord noble friend would naG % connded and
advice after the debate in tins House hau % NJaeSv
when he sti had it in his power 70 aavtSe eI 1 1iS
10 rati this Treaty OF sse 70 Minister whether he was
right in understanding that the luSct d e iht have
barred by tSo the I9eay Gsnct declaration on that point
and then he might have Deen toIu oy i te i ,r
ment Of tne tbese indirect claims are by no
rendered and think We are at liberty 10 se1 teh
even scb nnestion or express any such doubt on the
other hand the American Government dd not SET US az
djsappeared or that they had not Her Majestys Gov
ernment did enter into negotiations for any prevent
i've Article in the Treaty Nothing OF that KIND was done
on either sde months elapsed before we heard any
thing more on the subject - .,, I'D. Ant,
question on the present OCCASION but hope my noDe
friend will not allow any unreasonable time 10 elapse
SonVenfion or this Additional Article VIII be added TO
the Treaty of Washington And this con say my lords
that unless those indirect claims are positively WIN,
drawn-uness they are withdrawn by formal act ana
by hint or an evasion in which the american i
act these claims are entirely SET aslue, ana
disappear altogether use the phrase enployeo @
assured that no representative of Her Majesty shai
appear in the table of which those mendaclou5
| claims are lyng-I shall certainly renew again dnu
again before the 18th of June the motion when STANDS
the minutes in my name: Gheeds an DeiSVs s nos @
To- and these claims withdrawn, we shal not aio"
representative of Her Majesty TO appear before the AT
| bitrators' these claims would have been wlthdrawn
The appears TO me TO be one between ,ae oGDl
the crown OF this country and the election OF Gen Gran
as President OF the United States For my part pIele
the honor of Her MajestyI prefer the honor ana
taon of this country prospects OF the reeecuol
| Of Gen. Grant" [Cheers.J
The Earl of Derby thought the Lords woud DC acun'
premaurely in discussing the matter before they knew
what reception would be given to the Government pro
posal by the Senate. Every one in England, and nc
hoped every in America, wished the question 10 DC
| honorablv settled. But thing that House had q
rioht TO asSIwhich was that the new engagement, II
tended to supersede and control the former should bt
concluded in clear, precise, and unequivocal language
because unless that done they would De AGAIN eA
posed to all the trouble and MISUNDERSTANDING wch mac
hitherto caused so much anxiety. Hear, HearJ.