The New York herald., 1872-05-15
NEW YORK HERALD WEDNESDAY, MAY 1s ls72-TRpLE SHEET

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on any question connected with the treaty. He in
dulges however, the earnest hope that the dspOsi-
governments to remove all causes OF drerence be.
tween them will bring them to an agreement upon
the incidental question which has arisen, and will
allow no obstacle to deprive the world OF the ex-
ample OF advanced civilization presented by two
powerful States exhibiting the supremacy Of
LAW AND REASON OVER PASSIONS
and deferrIng their own Judgments to the calm in
terpretation OF disinterested and discrimin ating
tribunal am' sir your oeedeRt ntM,Iqo FISH
TO GENERAL ROBERT c. scHENcK.
NOV.
GENERAL sCHENCK TO Mr.. FISH.
LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES,
LONDON, March 16, 1872. !
on the day Of the reception OF your note OF the
2sth February and within few hours after its ar.
rival, was enabled 10 have an interview with
Lord Granville at the Foreign once, with view to
making him acquainted agreeaby to your instruc-
fe hefe %S
anxiety. Following, In substance, the language OF
no S
their note, but had been content to make naked
announcement, unaccompanied by reasons or argu-
put forward by the United States In their
case presented at Geneva did not come within the
YET such Was the earnest desire Of
for the settlement Of all differences between the
two countries and for the successful carrying out
OF q treaty which offered to the world SO good an
example OF peaceful and enective method for the
removal OF international dif1cuties that the Pres
the friendly feelings which had prompted that note
and that you had communicated to me IN de-
spatcn with some fpisssS s the opinion and views
which they had raised. l said also tO.Iord Gran
vile that ! was authorised. to read TO him him
1t to leave with him a copy OF II. He
remarked to me that being Just then pressed and
s ns raS
comment at that time, and he said, II agreeable to
me, therefore, and understanding that, anticpat
pared he would ask me 70 leave that with him that
This, Of course consented to do. / gave him the
c0py therefore, leaving him to return TO the House
% % eet s ne aad called ws
His Lcrdsnip that AZ Her Msjesty's government
naps few days, to consider whether they should
make any answer and what snswer to
as sns s IL ss neS sr s the UasS
in the interest of our two countries to have free,
CONFIDENTIAL conversation with me- or II he thought
that good understanding might be promoted by
some mode q issue from our present Complication,
nSs m ie S sa nsny en @ S as
assented at once cordially to- the propriety OF
M vi osner snd
express himself as hopefully as he thought did Of
an ultimate satisfactory adjustment. ! have the
want, ROBERT Q. SCHENCK.
NO. W.
GENERAL sCHENCK TO Mr.. FISH.
LEGATION OF THE UNITED STATES
LONDON. March n, 1874 !
sIR-i have barely time TO transmit, SO as to
catch at Queenstown the mail which has left Liver
y the asS to s
eleven O'Clock last night, and the printed "memo-
and which ig to be taken as part of the cOmmuni-
cation, reached me only this afternoon.
ssS q % %
the memorandum" You will observe that Her
Majesty's government have construed your de-
spatch to me as containing apparently an tnvitatOn
TO OPEN FULLY THE Discussion WITH you
the question OF the right Of the United States to
claim for indirect losses Or damages There s moth
ing advanced. however, either in the way OF any
proposal for the removal Of the difficulty between
case OF continued difference OF opinion 1t is still
but the notice which was contained In Lord Gran
reasons which have led Her Majestys government
to the conclusion which was then communicated,
RGt must close In haste without further COM
have the honor TO be, str your obedient servant.
u s S s, ~is
printed 'memorandum;n = 4, General scnenck TO Lord
0ranville-note Of March n, 1s72
EARL GRANVILLE TO GENERAL sCHENCK.
FoREIoN OYpIca, March % 1872.
sR-l have laid before my colleagues Nj. Ftsh's
despatch OF the 27th ult, OF which, at my request,
ns copy 0O se INST He9
the President that he sincerely desires TO promote
Q firm and abiding friendship between the two ma
Hns q y the xas s
should state tic reasons which induced them
TO make the. declaration contained In my
note to You OF the sd ult. and which then pur.
posely omitted, IN the hope Of obtaining, without
er1ment Of the United States. NJ. Fish says
'What are called the indirect loeses and claims are
not now put forward for the nrst time. For years
Of tie Alabama Claims would Se supsrsods S1ss 70
quote, or perhaps M even to refer to particular
ernment TO their Minister to Great Britain. in the
Secretary q state for Foreign Affairs, Or in other
government has, from the beginning OF the acts
which gave rise to the Alabama claims, been that
United states. incidental or consequential
asmages were sfter mentioned as included In the
This assertion doee not appear to me accurately
to represent the facts 90 they are shown In the
il true that IN soma Of the CARRIER letters Of Mr.
ble liantltties Of this country, extending beyond
Alas,ama, Florida, shenandoah and Georgia, but no
claims were ever defined or formulated, and car-
tainly none were ever described by the phrase
alabama claims" except those direct claims OF
American citizens. No mention OF any claim for
national or indirect losses had been made
during the negotiation, commencing with
27th August, 1855, and ending with the
signature OF the Convention OF the 10th Of Novcm-
Der, 1858, BY Lord Stanley and Mr. Reverdy John
son. by the fourth article Of which power was given
to commissioners to adjudicate upon the class OF
claims referred to in the 0fFlcial correspondence
between the two governments as the alabama
claims" The first subsequent mention OF any claim
for national losses was In communication un-
authorized by his government made by ReverJy
Johnson In March, 1859, to Lord Clarendon, In
which nc suggested that the term Of the Conven-
tion, signed by him with Lord Clarendon on the
14th Of January, which comprised o reference to
mixed commission OF the alabama clainsn should
be enlarged as to include all claims on the part
Of either government upon the other,
AN ESSENTIAL CONDITION OF THE PROPOSAL
being that In case claim was set up by the United
States, founded on the recognition OF the Con-
federate States as begerents, II should be open to
the British government to advance claims on their
mart M 4 claim inylrV Rritish intnrpatq