New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1872-02-10

INTERESTING DEBATE II TIE L. :. SENATE.
WHAT Is THOUGHT OF GLADSTONE'S sPEECr-THE
UNITED STATS MUST REMAIN FIRM-rliE
GENEVA ARBITRATORS MUST DECIDE ON Tue
WASHINGTON, Friday, Feb. ., 1872.
IN the United States Senate, to-day, on motion of
Mr. Edmuuds the resolution asking the President 20
communicate any information in his possession in
rerence to the alleged intention Of Great Britain 20
remdiate the Treaty of Washington, was taken mp.
Nh. Edmunds said nc thought the information
styed since the resolution offered was sufficient
.oips,fy the clause which had been struck ont at
TIE suggestion of Mr.. Trumbull but a. his object
wasmerey TO get the information from the IIesl-
dent, be would let the resolution stand as Il was.
and ask il Immediate passage
Mr. Peterson assumed that our Government knew
what claims it had a right TO present under tho
Tiaty. and upon this assumption he thought the
hnglace of the leaders in Parliament insulting 10
TIE United States. He hoped however, that moth
ing offensive OF violent would bc uttered in the SEN
sts. but that our Government and press would pre-
serve 10 the end the temperate tone IN which they
had spoken thus far. and that the Government. IN
diguiied. manly and proper way. would MAINTAIN
or position IN reference to the Treaty. He thought
the Opposition in Parliament were using this Ques-
ton a. a mean, of ousting the Gladstone Ministry,
because they assumed that the United States Gov
eminent had q right to present the claim as they
had done but that the English negotiators at Wash
ington were oyerreached, and IL evident that
hr Gladstone was trying 70 evade the attack ny
falling IN with the Opposition, and denounclnS the
American claim as pTepOsterous and absurd.
Nj Sherman said he would not debate the Gucs-
ton lest he should be led into inGlNcrcton. a.
Mr Patterson bad just been. II would be better BE-
Al l., ,,rr. 20 f,f
the English Prime Minister at least until We had a
better basis for the discussion than mere telegraph
icr report lie regarded the Treaty Of Washington
q high and solemn contract between two nations,
and did not believe that after full consideration
either nation would be likely 10 violate il. As to the
pendng resolution he thought it had better be re-
ferred TO the Committee on Foreign Relations. If
that Committee desired any information in the
Presidents possession II could easily obtain 1t. and
whenever the President received anything important
on the subject be would probably communicate 1t
without direct r,ques, of the Senate. He there
fore moved to refer the resolution TO the Commit
tee on Foreign Affairs
Mr. Patterson denied that he had discussed the
English Premier's motives He had only quoted his
language and that, he insisted, was insulting TO
tins country.
Nj Morton suggested that Mr. Edmuuds should
modify the resolution 80 a. To ask for information
Rejecting ile complaint made By the British Gov
eminent against the case" submitted by the Gov
eminent OF the United States. The resolution as 1t
stood assumed that there was intention to revoke
The Treaty. whereas neither the Queen nor ihe Pre-
uieTs speech intinated any such intention. bu'
merely spoke Of demonstrating against tho case pre-
snted by the United states.
Dr. Edmund, said his resolution did not assume
Nat The British Government intended 10 revoke
III Treaty Ii merely assumed that that was alleged,
ahd certainly il lad been alleged very plainly. The
Nel@'0f Norton Was mistaken as To the PremleTs
speech. Mr. Gladstone was reported To have sand
'hat The American claims are prep0steTOus and
absurd and such a. no people in the last extremity
oi war, OF IN the lowest depths of national misioT-
tune with the spirit of England III their hearts.
would ever submit to- II this report were correct,
shd II The English language meant in England what
u means here, the Premier certainly did intimate
thai England would revoke the Treaty, unless the
United states would consent 10 change or withdraw
III case However his object ia Offering the resO-
luton was merely to yet the information asked for he
would accept the suggestion Bnd modify the resOlu-
NOD but he objected 10 referring 20 the Committee. IL
An ordinary resolution fDquify, such 1t had never
Oeeh The custom % refer 70 Committee, and he should
'eei lnmeasurable humiliation II the Senate should re-
eor' 70 reference for OF dong something inure
We feelings Of Great Britain The % preserve
oetween nations have candor and frsnkness the
va! 70 make 70 have conoealment and intrigue
sho he hoped the Senate would adopt the resolution
skg the President communicate any information in
$50 possession upon this important subject.
mr. sherman said that the present condition Of our
mia Rrifia amt IN