The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-09-23

plain culrivators. The Egyptian asks only to pro-
duce upon his SOIL to live quietly and peaceably
after his own mode OF life. He has his ground, his
| house, his family; guarantee them to him and you
| have done all for his material happiness.
Commemorative Is much difference be-
| tween the Egyptian population and the Soudan
peoplef
HIS HIaHNEss-Yes; there are in the Soudan two
races, the blacks and the negroes les n0trs ct les
| negres). The blacks are men OF Arab bood-bloOd
native to the soil also for many ages. These men
must ultimately rule there. The negroes must be-
come race Of cultivators. That is all they 1T
for, because they men inferior to this black
race (of Arab extracton) at least such is the opn-
ion Of scientific men. The negroes have developed
no positive character there, but hope that eventu
ally they will become very good farmers.
| POPULATION OF THE soUDAN.
| CoRREsPONDENr-What is the population OF that
country lying In and to southwark OF the Soudan
People there claim there $1,000 600 OF blacks up
the White Nile and laterally in the interior.
HIS HIGHNEss-Professor Schweniurth made
report to me, saying that he believed there were
but 100000. The question Is an open one.
[NoTE.-There must be some great error about this
statement: for the world believe that the slave
trade, drawing nearly twenty-five thousand head
alone from the White Nile annually, could have
|
seven millionsY From my own observation had
much rather believe there &c, 100000 Of the ne
| gr0es between Khartoum and the Equator than
| the 100000 OF Professor Schweinfurth. This
| Is question OF vital Importance because the ter
ritory needs laborers-an industrial population.l
| HIS HGHNEss-You know l have changed the
| Governor up there, and the government Is very
crude. All the Egyptians have prejudice against
the S0udan. They imagine that send them there
to get rid of their presence here. Our officers are
fond Of the oapial it Is becoming gay and attract
i've. railway will dspel these Illusions, and, once
completed, the world may be sure that win de-
velop the Soudan.
There was pause in the conversation. The
viceroy had spoken with great force often with
eloquence, his eyes glistening with pride when he
referred to the works he yet hoped to accomplish
for Egypt.
Presently he resumed, on q different key.
| BUTLER AND STONE AND ALLEN.
HIS HIGHNEss-To speak frankly we have very
| painful AFFAIR here You know Consul General
Buffers career In Egypt. Let me tell you some
| thing about its close. had in my service an
American ofllcer, Colonel Allen. He was about to
leave Egypt because Of the poor health OF his wife.
In my service he had been distinguished and faith
full, and had been recommended to me for decora-
| ton. / gave the order to transmit to him the
| mark Of my esteem. Colonel Butler sent word to
me that II I decorated Colonel Allen he would be-
come my personal and political enemy. Not liking
scandals, sent word to Butler to withdraw his
message, which he did. Instead OF acting In this
way as Consul General, he should have thanked
me when l decorated an American. Then he
threatened General Stone. caused General Stone
to inform the Washington Cabinet Immediately OF
what was taking place, because knew from expe-
rence that COnsuls General do not always report
k1rA k~rtht IN NhAtv pNArto onl<
was handsome. Butler was called to account by his
government Enraged he wrote three letters-one
to me, one to Nufar Pacha, one to Sheriff Pacha-
demanding when General Stone was appointed
Minister OF Foreign Affairs" ! demanded their
immediate withdrawal; they were withdrawn. In
fact have been the American Consul here. Finally
the affair eliminated in the proclamation In which
Butler, through his TOOL published Stone as o
coward, &C. General Stone is not only capable and
thorough the chiefof star Of the Egyptian army,
but he is capable to be the chief Of stan Of any
army in the world. He is not only gentleman and
learned gentleman and o soldier, but he Ia an
honorable gentleman and an honorable soldier.
The Khedive spoke in high terms OF General Star
ring. His Highness had seen our American Minis
ter at COstantinople, and he described him as o
most charming person, charging me to bear His
Highness' compliments to Mr.. Boxer upon my arri-
val at COnstantinople.
WE HAD TALKED AN HOUR.
The VlcerOy rose as signal to terminate the
audience. l again thanked him cordially In the
name Of the HERALD, as the HERALD had often done
BEFORE for the facilities which had been everywhere
extended to me in his dominions. "Oh,n said His
Hghness 'that is nothing. When gentlemen come
among us to see our country and institutions, tn
Investigate them in spirit of fairness, they will
always be well received by my government. Above
all wish to maintain friendly relations with the
HERALD paper whose puissance l well know"
His Highness then said that If returned to Egypt
he should be most happy to see me again.
Mr.. CoMoNos-Oh yes, your Highness, he will re-
turn, because has he not drank Of the waters Of
the Nile
HIS HIGHNEss Qaughng)-He will come with out
doubt then.
There Is, as the reader may know, an Arab su.
perstltion that any foreigner who drinks the water
OF the Nile must return to Egypt q second time.
could mention many odd combinations Of this idle
maxim.
| AS we reached the door we passed the parting
compliments, and backed out Of His Highness
presence. and from opposite ends of the exterior
room we made low bows; and the last saw Of the
Khedive was the reflection OF rapid movement OF
his feet in the gorgeous mirrors of the staircase,
for His Highness sought his private cabinet to
work.
/ Seldom, indeed, have heard a man talk with
equal freedom, nuency and earnestness 1t has
been well said that 'the viceroy upon any throne
OF Europe would be the greatest monarch OF the
age," and believe there Is no Hohenzollern, Haps-
burg or Hanover who has 1.-THE OF his genius. lie
Is great as an administrator. He Is o chieftain.
That there are many grave errors in his policy I
know; but there is no use in looking for spots on
the sun. We must Judge Of Ismail Pacha and his
career as whole, not magnify his faults or exag-
gerate his virtues. Here is one man with the whole
East against him. Twelve years ago he turned his
face toward
THE ORIENT
after an European education, and babe IL rise. He
told the Moslem world that was still In the stag