The New York herald., 1872-05-24
The TREATY.
The Supplemental Disgrace in
the Senate.
FIVE HOURS In EXECUTIVE SESSION.
Disgusting the Surrender in
Flowers Of Speech.
Sumner and Carpenter Op-
pose Ratification.
CAMERON PLEADS FOR FISH.
What the Party Whip and English
Lobby Expect to Achieve.
Mysteries Of the Pom Honor
Inquisition.
The Sinful Senators Who Lost
Their Comics.
CAMERON PLEADS FOR FISH.
What the Party Whip and English
Lobby Expect to Achieve.
Mysteries Of the Pom Honor
Inquisition.
The Sinful Senators Who Lost
Their Copies.

WASHINGTON May %, 1872.
After transactng some public business this
morning, and getting the Labor Commission bill In
condition for future consideration SO that 1t will
doubtless pass before the pending adjournment
the Senate at twelve O'Clock, on motion of Mr.
Cameron, went into executive session.
THE SUPPLEMENTAL TREATY
was taken up and debate upon it pro ceeded
until the adjournment, at hafpast five. Numerous
amendments were offered none OF which were OF
great Importance, and all OF which were intended
to so modify the pending article as to make 1t more
acceptable to the people. At the same time these
amendments were so carefully drawn as not to
compromise the terms of Fishs surrender to
Gladstone In other words, the effort is
being made to soften the capitulation with
TERMS OF AMBIGUOUS RHETORIC.
The discussion was mainly sustained by Messrs.
Sumner, Carpenter and Edmunds. Messrs. Sumner
and Carpenter opposed ratification and the former
submitted resolution advising the President
NOT TO ACCEPT TIE NEW ARTICLE,
which, In effect, means that we shall stand by our
case before the Geneva arbitration as made up be-
fore the recent ana pending negotiations were be.
gun. Mr.. Edmunds is reported to have made
deprecatory Speech in which he gave in his adhe-
renee to the article as amended by the Foreign Re-
lations Committee, provided no better amendment
can be arrived at. Speeches were made by other
Senators, mainly In opposition, and it is believed
that the original programme OF allowing
THE OPPOSITION TO EXHAUST ITSELF
and then proceed to vote is being carried ont.
At any rate 1t Is not ascertaned tonight that any
set speeches were made in support Of ratification,
although Mcssrs. Cameron and Hamlin who are
the most active managers Of the measure, did not
fail briefly to point out
WHEREIN IT'S OCCULT MERITS LIE.
At half-past three an administration Senator from
the Northwest remarked in the lobby that the vote
might be taken in On hour, or the discussion might
last oil week. lie added that the opposition has
grown stronger since the debate begun but prophe
sled that In the end
NOT MORE THAN TEN OR FIFTEEN VOTES
would be recorded against the committees resou
tion All of the amendments offered to-day were
ordered to be printed The debate will be re-
sumed tomorrow.
THE FEELING OUTSIDE OF THE SENATE
in UNOFFICIAL circles is one Of amazement at the sue
cess of the State Department lobby in its efforts to
stupefy the natural instincts Of Senatorial honor
and love of country. The friends Of the admnstra
ton are anxious to draw line of distinction be-
tween Fsh's laundering diplomacy and the general
policy of the government They argue that the
matter is not Of partisan, but Of national char
acter, and point to the fact that number of
DEMOCRATS ARE IN ACTIVE SYMPATHY
with Mr.. Fish to prove the truth OF their assertions
They admit that the administration may be held re-
sponsible for oil that occurred up to the time the
Senate was brought into direct contact with the
matter, but insist that since then the responsibility
has been divided, and that neither the republican
nor democratic kettle can now call the pot black.
The cry OF Mr.. Fish that
THE ADMINISTRATION MUST BE SAVED
through the success Of his negotiations has doubt
less been used to coax and whip in the weak.
kneed or, more properly speaking, the conscien-
tious republican MEMBERS while the arguments of
Reverdy Johnson, backed up by the appeals OF the
several commercial lobbies have been used to In
uence the democrats. II Is of course impossible to
predict how long the debate will last but the re-
suit is as certainly known now to be
DEFEAT, DISGRACE AND NATIONAL HUMILIATION
as 1t will be after the vote is taken.
The unusual reticence OF Senators regarding
their proceedings in executive session provokes
an extraordinary number OF wild rumors as
to the conclusions they have reached Among
these rumors il one that three Of the socaed car.
pet-bag Senators have been found without copies OF
the correspondence the names given being those Of
MEssRs. OSBORN, SPENCER AND AMEs.
The truth is that Messrs Osborn and Spencer were
enabled TO say that their copies had remained
safely in their custody from the time Of delivery up
to the investigation, while Mr.. Ames admitted that
he had allowed a member OF his family to have
access to his copy. There were four or FIVE Others
who were compelled to make similar confessions
and one Senator is understood to have declared
that
| he LOST HIS COPY,
and, In fact, had never seen one, except through
the courtesy OF fellow members IRON
whom he had been forced TO borrow
This Senator Is beyond suspicion In th'
minds of his contemporaries; hence 1t is no
believed that he was party to any transaction b,
which tho correspondence was made public Th'
mystery is therefore, as complete as ever, and dur