The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-01-08

being busy could not see any one az tnat umos put
said If the reporter would call upon him at the Grand
| Opera House at nve O'Clock In the afternoon he
would try and see him. Punctual to the time ap-
pointed the reporter appeared upon the scene, and
Glowing his way through the surgtng mass OF
| humanity who were endeavoring to force an
| entrance, made his way to the usher and handed
In his card. "Oh, reporter" said that gentleman;
'Ir Gould and the gentlemen up stairs are not see
ing reporters to.night.n "Well, take in my card,
believe he viii see me, as come by appointment"
"Oh that alters matters: suppose 1t Is all right
and right 1t proved to be- as in few minutes the
reporter was sitting in the luxurious room OF Pres
dent Gould.
GOULD LOOKS SORROW STRICKEN.
81 am very busy just now" said MI. Could 'pus
II you remain Tor few minutes VIII nave some
leisure time at my disposal ana VIII DC
happy to afford you what you want"
Mr.. Gould was pale, tired and weary looking ana
showed evident traces OF the mental distress under
which he was suffering. In addition to the shock
he has received by the murder OF FISK, to wnom lie
was devotedly attached, the additional press OF
business which has poured upon him during the
day tended to depress him still more. but ne bore
the calls which were being momentarily made upon
him with an astonishing amount OF patience.
kind OF semiformai meeting of the directors
was being held, and Ia addition TO the
task OF receiving visitors, ne had to reply
to the .numberless questions which were being
offered at breath. Many OF the richest OF our
citizens, among them William Heath, the banker,
called with offers OF assistance and help II required
Mr.. Gould thanked them for their good inten-
tIons but dia not avail himself OF their OFFERS as he
said he was yet equal to any emergency that might
arises When some OF his numerous visitors mad
been dismissed the reporters turn came on, ana he
said "Well. ssr. what can do for you"
HOW THE CATASTROPHE AFFECrs HIM.
at is scarcely necessary to say that came to
interview you about Colonel Fisk"
81 surmisedas much. On what particular points
do you wish to be enlightenedf"
| "A good many; but 1t Is as well to begin at the
| beginning. The assassination Of Fisk was a CON-
| plete surprise to y0ur'
| "Certainlyit was-an awful one, too. / never for
an instant imagined that any such tragic end would
await Mr.. Fisk as his popularity and the esteem IN
| which he was generally held precluded the idea
that he would fall victim to savage Violence"
"His death affects you considerably, both in bust
ness and private point Of viewf'
"Oh i don't mind business; but my per-
sonal reelings-I cannot sufficiently give
| expression to the extent suffer over
| the catastrophe. We have been working
together for five or six years. and during that time
not the slightest unpeasantness has ever arisen be-
| tween us. He was genial In his habits and beloved
by all who had any dealings with him"
elias Stokes ever been connected with the Erie
Railroad III any capacity Z"
mo Will tell You how the acquaintanceship
between Mr.. FISK and Stokes originated Fisk met
Stokes accidentally. and being attracted by his ap
led the former to manifest 1t In substantial
way. He lent him money, to start him IN
You Know how lie was deceived in his Kindness
was repaid with the blacklist ingrautude, ana the
,ntrodnc ton to Mrs Mansaeds' p''0' " A'
4 Enn 1kff1A ~
Mansfield anu cannot tell anything Of her history
neither DO know. what the relations were which
was delicate subject and generally avoided I'm
"Do you know , what It caused the rupture between
"NO. ! know nothing Of the circumstance.
have no idea what caused the misunderstanding be-
innate, lat,ery 1t has not been SO; don't know Tor
what reason"
have been entered INTO against MI. Fisk BY Mrs
Mansfield and StoKes"
BLACKMAILING.
"Blackmailing pure and unmitigated. There are
not the slightest grounds for any such actions. The
design was Simply TO extract money rom MI Fisk
with their evil designs"
"Did Mr. Fisk ever utter such sentiments as
Frequently he did. 1t was his belief in the ras
solve to contest the trials TO the bitter end. The
turn they latterly took in his favor proves how
me motives Of Mansfield and stokes were simply
to crafty personal malice and get money but they
have, am happy to say been completely foied In
"Mr. Fisk had no intention Of compromislng'"
about. He had never done anything that would
render such course OF action necessary; he was
ties might do, ana ne would nave treated the whole
as goSa oSs but f the pity
the pa,as ms n' the sat " '0
.Iiow long is it since he broke with Mrs. Mans
leldw
81 cannot exactly say but may tell you some
thing which Is not generally known Since the dis
solution OF whatever tie has existed between him
and Mrs. Mansfield he has been changed man. He
had ceased to practice many OF the old habits Of
which he has been accused, and was In every sense
becoming what all who loved him desired he should
be- HIS Old associations were being rapidly broken
up, and II he had lived some time longer complete
reformation would have taken place in his whole
conduct though do not for an instant say that his
impropr,etIes were 50 helnous as they have been
81 suppose reports do not always speak true"
"Notb by any means, and In this instance there
was gross exaqgeratiOn In many OF the statements
made. The sins Of Mr. Fisk were proclaimed 10 the
world; he made no hidden mystery OF them; they
were freely blazoned forth, and however one may
be disposed to blame his judgment 1t cannot be
SAID that he concealed anything from the public
"Did M. Fisk anticipate any violence from
"Ibelicve not; Inever heard him express any ap.
prehensions relative to Stokes"
"Was he aware that threats had been made
eyes, bslieve he heard something OF the kind,
but neither he nor attached any weight to such
rumors We looked III on them as idle tales.n
THE OCCURRENCES OF SATURDAY
"Dld any OF the tragic circumstances OF yesterday
evening come under your notice 9h
mot Immediately. have since been Informed
that stokes lurked around the Office watching for
the appearance OF MS victim. When Colonel Fisk |
entered his carrae he gave directions to the coach
man TO drive 10 The Grand Central Hotel In tone
loud enough 70 be heard across the street. Stokes
heard the words, and Immediately starred In hot
pursuit. knew nothing more until was apprised
that Colonel Fisk nad been shot by Stokes In the
Grand Central Hotel. The instant heard the news
/ repaired to the scene and must say 1 was deeply
affected by the spectacle behed."
''Did Colonel Fisk recognize y0uW
"Yes instantly; he was perfectly conscious o. the
time, and continued so 10 four O'Clock this morn
Ing. 10 show the goodness Of his heart may tell
you how he expressed himself about Stokes after he
was shot last evening. He said, nope may live;