The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-04-05
TIE FRENCH ARMS PUDDLE.
General Rufus ingalls, Examined-His Visit to
the French Ministsr-No Compensstion-The
Value of Remington Stock = General
Franklin and the Nine Guns-lhe
French Spy" Corrccts Himself

WASHINGTON, April 4. 1872
The Senate Arms Committee. at the meeting this
this morning, examined General Rufus ingalls,.
who said that &. X Garrison had related to him the
difficulties In which he was involved by the abroga
ton OF the contract for the delivery oil batteries
the French COVER nment and his being Interested to
the amount Of many hundred thousand dollars.
Garrison mad requested him to
CALL AT THE FRENCH LEGATION
TO ASK NJ. Treilhard. the French Minister, whether
he could do anything for Garrison under the crcum
stances The Minister said he could nor. General
ingalls, had called at the Legation, III company with
Carlisle Patterson, who was an lnuna,e friend OF
botn Garrison and himself After leaving tho Lega-
ton he went TO the Fourteenth street telegraph
0lllce and telearaphcd to Garrison, 'srhe Legation
declines TO Interere.' In that interview the word
batteries" was not mentioned. In referring TO
portion or the evidence OF the Marquis de Chambrun
the witness deuled that he had
ROASTED or HIS INFLUENCE
with the government authorities, and said i was
positively false that he was connected with the
Remingtons. Chambrun gave for this assertion
Dana as the only authority or basis OF the state
ment. Alter being introduced 10 the French Minis
ter BY Carlisle Patterson he informed the Minister
he came at the instance OF Garrison. He SAID TO
the Minister that Garrison mad heavy load TO carry
In the way OF bringing up some arrangements with
Ballantne and Billings and NJ. LaureIt with whom
the French government had made contract but
that the government which succeeded the
Gam6etta government abr0gateu the contract. Gar
rson wanted in some why to dispose OF the arms,
which he had placed on board a vessel ana desired
to know whether the french Minister could 90 any
thing or not for him. In response to Senator nam-
lin the witness said he knew OF no officer or Official
TO THE AMOUNT OF ONE CENT
III the purchase OF arms. nor ana he believe
Remington three times during the Franco,
with squires ana had met him several times IN tho
ordinary way Of intercourse. Sqares never asked
Wor Of X on s seG % ss
INTO mis- hands as private business matter. He
ana not remember when he disposed Of the stock,
simply, supposng it might be worth something
An ofer was maze Tor Inc stock aad ne accepted It
RECEIVED no PROFIT OR Dividends
Me oe,aned 6he stock from private party
the inquiry OF this committee
IN answer to the question whether he knew Of
the witness replied that there might be a good
many but he could not say; lie, however, did not
know Of any government officer being interested
In response 10 o question by Senator Schurz the
witness said he gave Garrison advice about getting
partment lie might have told the witness that he
Would 40 an ne properly could 90 for him. twas
witness had no conversation with the Navy
Department on the subject. 1t was possible he
might have mentioned the matter to Colonel Girls
PIN; Garrison mad already made MS formal applica-
ton Tor return OF the Margin; the reason why he
presumed the margin was returned 10 Garrison was
that The government had
GIVEN NO CONSIDERATION FOR THE MARGIN.
The witness SAID Garrison gave HIM no colisidera-
ton whatever 10 set that matter right, nor Tor any
other service The witness also testified that he
never purchased as middeman; and, IN response
to Senator Carpenter, sand he never had any con-
versatlon with anybody to influence action In this
matter.
GENERAL FRANKLIN,
Wee President and General Agent OF the Colt
MANUFACTURING Company, OF Hartford being sW Orn,
saia he was told by Mr.. Poutney that Mr.. Markley,
Of Camden, N. j.,
GOT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM HIM
Tor arranging tno sale by the Navy Department to
PoultneY and Trembe OF the TO- 900 rifles heretofore
spoken OF IN the testimony before the committee.
me witness testified at some length about nine
Calling guns; he had al interview with either Rem
| lngton or smoot or Squires In December, 1870 on
| that subject the guns were turned over TO the
COY company from the Walerviiet Arsenal
anu the Colt Company received instructions
from the Remingtons to alter them; the company
! accordingly made the alteration ana improvements
and sent the guns to Remington's, In New York
! The witness said ne had direcL correspondence
Wln General Dyer, and 1t was UNDERSTOOD these
nine guns al Walervliet were to be turned over &c
the Colt Company, ana the company ia return were
TO give the United States
NINE OTHER GATLING GUNS
OF better quality; this arrangement was carried
into effect.
The Marquis de Chambyun voluntarily appeared
pelcre the committee and made statement eX.
panatofy OF MS testimony on some points given
the other day. he believed he was mistaken IN
saying that Mr. Garrison was one Of william NJ.
IWeed'S bondsmen; nc saw The statement in New
YORK papers; ne was also wrong III saying tnat
Mr.. Garrison accompanied General Ingalls, TO the
French Minister; he has since learned that the
person accompanying General ingalls, was o Mr.,
Patterson.
The committee adjourned.