The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1872-06-03

8 On Them They left guns knapsacks and every
thing and the whole corps ran back like herd OF
z RrPoRrER-I heard on the Monday following that
B some of Towards men were shot and cut down by
q '"' TOWARDS MEN CIT DOWN.
4 General HooKER-Yes; | ordered the cavalry to
! arrest their retreat for az one moment feared the
q devils would demoralize our whole army. My own
stan killed some OF H0wards people before they
Il could be stopped.
REroRrER-If recollect Alright, have seen 1t
publicly stated that you bad eXOnerated Howard of
all blame for that surprise and stampede.
n General HooKER-Frank Blair so stated in Con-
. gress but where he got his information from ID
8 self.
\ REroRrER-Howard is a brave man, is he not
General HOOKER with an amused expressiOnl-
Y Howard is very queer man. understand you In
q terviewed him to ascertain the cause Of his being
q sent to Arizona
4 REPRESENTATIVES, sir, that was the object Of my in
= terview with him.
a BowARD's MISSION.
General HO0KER-Well, can give you more in
formation on that point than you got from him.
: He went to Arizona to escape an investigation Of
4 ment had 80 many investigations lately that they
& were not anxious about it, and so 1t was an easy
Il matter to find q pretext for sending him of.
REPoRTER-But about his braveryS
General HooKBR-He was Railways a woman among
troops. he was not born in petticoats he ought
to have been, and ought to wear them. lie was
b always taken up with Sunday schools and the
\ temperance cause. Those things are all very
Commanding army corps. He would command q
4 prayer meeting with good deal more ability than
I he would an army; ov,s -
REPoRrER-I should have thought that you would
have insisted on his removal after Charlottesville.
General HooKER-l did not know all the facts at
\ first, although knew he was to blame; bat
thought OF theoss OF his arm In battle, and that he
p had made good march. Take 1t altogether, there
4 Is not another such movement on record as that
made by the Eleventh and Twelfth corps In this
\ REPoRrER-t must have inspired you with the
X highest hopes.
General fIooKER-It inspired me with the fullest
n hope. wouldn't have given picayune to have
been assured OF the entire success Of the campaign
When moved moved for Lees entire army; for
there was no object in simply driving him from
4 Fredericksburg. The country between there and
Richmond is traversed by frequent streams, difficult
Fl to cross with an army, and every mile Lee would
fail back In that direction would only add to the
strength OF his positions.
4 REPoRrER-The truth Of that proposition is pretty
conclIslyely proved by the history Of General
\ General HooxER-That is so. Grant lost %, 900
I that time the war had lasted so long that the War
Department was ready to furnish any amount Of
men to hurry it to conclusion and Grant reached
4 the James with as many men as he started with.
A SPLENDID ARMY
REpoRTER-An army could not be in more mag
nifcent condition than was the army Of the Poto-
mac in the spring OF 1862 before the battle OF Chan
acelOrsville.
a General HooKER-It is no vanity in me to say that
I l did some handsome things for the country during
the war, but never did my country better service
i than when rcorganized the army OF the Potomac
mere mob. Some "a 900 men were absent on their
Il farms and in their workshops. Among other mea-
issued in rotation to the entire army As soon as
Lincoln heard OF It he sent for me, ana expressed
the opinion that wonld never get them back. l
4 got back every officer and every soldier.
REPORTER-It was a matter OF some surprise In
our corps that you were not appointed to the COM
mand at the time Burnside was.
HALLECK'S JEALOUSY,
General HooKER-A member of LincOln's Cabinet
+ has since told me that my, name was proposed Tor
the position three times, but objected to by Haleck
When did finally accept the command 1t was with
the stipulation that he would stand by me, and he
REPoRTER-His jealousy toward You was manifest.
General HooKER-one cause OF IT undoubtedly
sented me with that magnificent sword not the
slightest mention was made Of Halecks name,
REPoRTER-well, he's got his final discharge now
General HOOKER-He's dead know; but certain
matters must be made straight, even If the erpose
rejects on his memory. Look how was treated In
4 REpoRTER-1 believe the injustice OF Halcck's
q course toward you IN that campaign Is generally
GETTYSBURG.
A General HooKEI-It ought to be, at least. Next
= to Chancellorsville It was the grandest movement
OF the war.
4 REPoRrER-I have always considered General
= Lees straightforward report of that campaign as
a one OF the highest compliments to you that could
Il have been given
ut the Gettysburg dedication, gave me more credit
for the successful result Of that campaign than he
qua TO General Meade. Not one that marched to
Not movement had foreplanned was changed by
General Meade.
REpoRTER-f suppose the public generally, who
I had no insight into the matter, OF course give
General HooKER-Of course. Citizens have no
other means of judging OF the ability Of general
than by results. Why, even my retreat from Chan
ceorsville ought to be regarded as an evidence of
olchs fhn mail ft hat
held Howard voted to stay; but his opinion was
good for nothing. lie was sore and wanted OIL
chance to retrieve himself s ..sSs--.s ~.
river had some effect in deciding You to retreat
General HooKER-That is true; but II It had not
no object to be gained. am very glad didn't. II
didn't want e lose them IL That way No power
under heaven would induce me to needessly sacri-
REpoRrER-Had that campaign been successful
there would have been different history Of the last
period OF the war.
GREELEY vs.. GRANT.
General HooKER-If had won that battle Gene
raj Grant would never have been brought from the
West. But wouldn't exchange places with him
to-day. Wouldn't turn over In bed for the Presi-
REPoRTER-I suppose you dent intend to vote for
Grant for the next term, then?
General HooKER-Well, / used to live here in San
friends. But I've got to get back In time to vote
for Horace next Novemberin fact that's about all
I'VE got on nand tniS summer.
REPoRTER-You seem enthusiastic ON the subject
General
General HOOKER with good-natured laugh)-|
Well, he's going to he the next President. had
that fixed before came out here. His nomination
is no joke at the East. But you are so far away
here that news reaches you slowly I have talked
with number of good men since reached San
Francisco and have been surprised to see how lit
tie Idea they have OF the enthusiasm for Greeley at
the East. What knew when left New York hasn't
got here yet
THE HANDWRITING ON THE wALL.n
REPoRTER-We have been 80 engrossed In railroad
matters lately, and interested In defeating the
Goat Island scheme, that dare say we have got
little behind In our politics.
General HooKER-I suppose so; and my friends
have told me that 1t wouldn't do for me to talk
so confident But shy distinctly that II the Phila
delphia Convention was eight weeks Off Grant
wouldn't be nominated.
REPORTER-He may withdraw yet.
General HooKER-I believe he will withdraw be-
fore the 1st OF July The Connecticut election was
the Handwriting on the wall"
REPORTER-I suppose you have no very excellent
reasons to be partial 10 Grant ?
GRANTS MORAL SENSE.
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