New-York tribune., 1871-11-30
TESTIMONY FUR TIE TIMES.

what the proprietor Of The Times has so often
asserted in his paper, and so signally failed to
establish when placed on the witncss-stand.
We hasten to the relief of our distressed
ncighbor, without waiting to be urged by the
District Attorney or the Grand Jury.
We have asserted, as The Times justly says,
that
"Thr revolution in tie city Government wa, brought
alout By rcvcatm u, OF ne ariuu men of nbo"i SIR M"
linn doJiars ana the waste OF an additional ihlrty mi
lion dollars. ImmcJ-c these ~nps are, they are only
fractions Of the amounts lost to NcwiOrk annually by
the alcc Taumany policy, which is destroying our COM
mrrcc, aud which yet remains to ruin us though Tam
many he dead. That policy rob- us lees directly man
the more infamous OF" Of Tweed, Woodward ana t"h'
molly. who appropriated millions on Joyed paper ant
(olst ciains"
The proof of that theft of about $G,0OO,0OO
was printed in THE TRIBUNE-p0ssibly also in
THE Times-on Oct. 2G last. 1t is doc Ocumcntary
evidence. duly sworn TO-, and proof moreover
of the most conclusive sort. 1t Is contained IN
Il tabular statcmcnt-One OF the most
remarkable and ingenious of compilations
made by Mr.. Samuel J. Tiden, and shows
not only the amount Of the theft to be
more than we have stated, but also how
much each rogue received. On its pub
Iiration The Times said cditoIially that
it was "full and conclusive evidence
that William NJ. Tweed dilltIs only from II
50 common thief in having stolen tens OF thou
sand, instead of tens of dollars THE
TRIBUNE said Just AZ cmphatcally, that :" the
figures presented by Mr.. Tildcn, accompanied
"by the evidence of the deposit checks, seem
simply unans vcrablc. The thieves them
selves will venture no defense other than
force, no explanation Other than defiance.
On that evidence Tweed and Connolly were
arrested, and Ingcrsoll, Garvcy and Wood
ward viii be arrested when found. We hold
still that that evidence is convincing and con-
elusive. Emincnt lawyers like Charles
O'Comor, William NJ. Evarts, and others, be-
licvc that it ill convict the thieves.
Tie 7iD,s appears sadly confused az TO the
nature of evidence. Let Is illustrate. James
O'Bricn', tigurcs frCm the Controllers books
which he gave to The Times, in iulthcrancc OF
his attempt to compel the Ring to pay his
doubtful claim against the City. were conNlnc-
ing proofs of Ring cXtlavaeancc. MIR. Tilden'S
table furnished the conclusive evidence of ac-
tual theft. On the publication OF OBrlenS
figures III his organ we promptly demanded
inquiry into the apparent corruption. On the
presentation of the sworn testimony of Mr..
'rilden we denounced the thieves by name, and
demanded the prosecution of all concerned
Here is what We said at the time (Oct 25):
Where IS serious omission in this array of figures
which all Ill remark More than Si7S.s55 in checks OF
Garvcy. Ingcrso and Woodward were paid to persons
net named In the aidavsto parties not traced
the statements read. Why not traced! l. il because
the evidence WAS lacking or because is necessary fer
the moment to protect the iucrminated Official off,
cals Mayer Hall drew up tie resolution IN the al
interim I"aId If Audit, which was the second step in the
scheme of fraud. The statement leaves him under
grave suspicious OF having done this
rcs -Oly, without, however, citing anything
definite against HIM. People VIII he asking.
on reading this evidence. If the Mayor was one Of
the parties not traced Controller Connolly was
member OF the Board which violated its plain duty IN
delcgang its authority to Watson and Tweed. He has
grown to lie very wealthy in an incredibly short period
Of time. IA showed yesterday Is he wholly guilt
less Are OF the fraudulent warrants ratcabe to
him This !. time for expedency' sake to protect
any of these II Mayor Hall or Controller Con-
molly shared In The spols of this frocious raid on the
Treasury. they should not be permitted Tor
to escape the consequences"
This was plain but temperate talk. The
Times, however. before and after the publica-
ton of Mr.. Tildcn's testimony. persistcntly pro-
tccted Connolly until the day of his arrest and
its worthy ally, James Ol,rcn, whom it en-
Enthusiastically supported for Senator and for
whom COnnolly's band of repeaters known as
st. Palrick's Mutual Alliance voted by con-
tracl-this Senator. thus elected, has, ever
since ConnOliy's arrest, been securing the
town in vain efforts to get bail to keep
him from going to the very county
Jail whose iniquitous profits he shares.
The Times very justly says,-withOut intending
it, perhaps, but for once betrayed by its in
temperance of language into truth, if
we have not other proofs than the facts and
figures published weeks ago in The Times,
then THE TRIBUNE has been chattering slandcr
with as little sense of responsibility rs a mag
pie. No conclusion could be truer if the pre-
mise were only correct. But THE Times will
now understand that when we declare
that theft has been committed and denOunce
the thieves Ivy name, we do it on better au-
thOrty than its insane rawlings and incomplete
figurrs obtained surreptitiously by disreputablc
persons, turned refOmers on compulsion.
And now will The Times, which knows SO
much of the secret dOings of the Grand Jury,
and 80 little when before it as Il witness,
answer this plain question What authority
has it for the statement published in its issue
of Tuesday concerning the testimony before
the Grand Jury of one Levi p. Adams,
whom ii calls the architect of the Harlem
Court House 7 Does it know any such person,
holding any snch oflicef Did it not, in an at
tempt to deceive its readers, make II show of
possessing information which it never had ?
In short, did not The Times, pretending to be n
newspaper, copy its information from The
TRIBUNE of the day befOre--facts, figures, and
typographical errors alike, without credit and
without seeking to confirm it Z And does The
Times, in the face of all this, clam to bc either
an honest or Trustworthy newspaper