The New York herald., 1871-06-18

Ills LAST POLITICAL, UrTGRANCES.
Conversation With n Herald Correspondents
Tho Democrats 10 Garry Ohia-Ihe New
Departure Necessary-A Progressive Party
Observation-Disclosures Democrats Must be
Brought Into Line-Pr0spect Of the Future.
CINCINNATI, June II, 1871.
The announcement OF the death OF Mr. valan-
dIgham created a profound sensation here to-day,
and men CT all parties join In expressions of tri-
butte to his personal qualities. Mr.. vallandigham
was deeply Interested IN the socalled new depar-
ture movement; and there are many leading men
OF the republican party who assert that had he
lived, and the democracy failed to come up to his
standard and accept the situation, he would have
gone over to the republicans His personal and po.
lltcal friends, however, deny this, ana say that he
Intended to make the hght within the democratic
ranks
CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
In conversation which your correspondent had
with him last Thursday, and which may be said
TO contain his last political uterances, he seemed
determined to make vigorous effort 10 consolidate
the democracy on the new departure platform 1t
was he thought the only chance they had to save
themselves and regain their lost prestige. In
speaking OF the malcontents he was not bitter. He
hoped they would discover their mistake before 1t
was too late.
said, 'Mr. Vallandigham, what Is your opinion
about the alleged difficulty with the tally sheets at
your Convention r'
Mr.. VALLANDIGHAM-I am not fully advised about
that matter, but when our committee meets on
the 21st at Columbus l shall favor a close eXami.
nation into 1t, and If there Is any mistake 1t must
be rectifed. Ii looks TO me- from the neures now
given, as II there was marked discrepancy that
needs explanation
be beaten at the coming fall election in this State
Mr. VALLANDlGHAM-We Will noe be beaten at all,
especially If the republicans get up a row at their
Convention, which meets next week. They are not
altogether harmonious about their nomiaatlon for
Governor. They must get up a strong ticket to
beat us.
CORES PoNDENT-That surprises me.
Mr.. VALLANDIGHAM-You need not be surprised;
l am in earnest about what say
CoRREsPoNDENT-liow ABOUT the malcontents IN
the Northwest who don't swallow your new depar-
ture doctrines
MR.. VALLANDIGHAM--I think they can be brought
into line, but this Is not q question OF I'M
mediate successes. The question ts, which
OF the great parties OF this country Is
be the party or progress-the party or ad-
vanced IDEAS. There can be no more political
campaigns fought on the Issues OF the last few
refuses to move to the front to accept the new
order or things IL VIII simply pass away, and some
other party made up OF the earnest progressive
elements Of both the Old parties, VIII take possess
sion OF the government.
ConREsroNpENr-Don't you think the campaign
OF 1872 will be fought the present tssucsSI mean
the old issues.
Mr.. vALLANDIGHAM-Tha may be undertaken by
our party, but II will fail. year ago Grant gave
promise of hts intention to lead the republican party
into new departure, and he would have done IT,
but gang OF od politicians at Washington held MIN
back and scared him with gabbe about defeat until
he went square back into the Old net. Grant
Is an honest man, and would do right If the poll
ticans would let HIM. but that they won't do.
He took the back track on the st. Domingo
question. III which, apart from the corrupt means
used, he was clearly right | tell you, sir, annexa
ton OF territory and the control OF all the outlying
fragments of this Continent Is the destiny Of the
American people. We shall have st. Domingo and
Cuba and Mexico and all the rest; mark that. We
missed the greatest chance we ever had III not
getting Cuba during the Spanish troubles. We
could have had her then for the asking and In
D few years We would have been owners OF
The richest and most productive piece of
territory In the world. Why, they used
70 talk about me and call me a disunionist I tell
you sir, earnestly and honestly that never was a
iisunonlst, that always did believe ana now be-
ieve that this Union Will be perpetuated AMI ex.
tended until It embraces the Continent.
HIS denial OF disunion views Mr.. Valandqham
thrice repeated with marked emphasis
RREsPoSDESr--Suppose the democrats as a
party fail TO accept the situation TO move forward as
gou say, what rhenS
Mr. yALLANDIGHAM-Well, they will have to go
indcr, that Is all. The time has come Tor an al.
vance, ana those who refuse 10 move Will be lett
alone. The republicans will have 10 take
new grousd also. Their Old tactics won't answer
onqer; they We're made Tor war times. ard now, now
must be modified. II portion OF the two
parties, as they exist, refuse TO modify their
creeds the result VIII be new arty composed u
the progressive men or both the republican and
the democratic parties.
CuRREsPOSDENT-lt may come 10 that with IN
opposition u YOU mali'estad by the old iogy demo
craey. l don't sec how you cal remain IL tlaL
MI yALLANDrcuAM-Wh what can dor The
party won't move forward. IL wants 70
stick TO Its Old clothes, and my best hone
Is TO get the democracy to push to the front.
there Is no telling what 36j days
may bring forth, aud ol one tnng am certain, u
progress ana advanced ideas, and l. from con-
scientous convictions, decide 10 act with any other
stop TO inquire what my past political record has
been. Parties dou'G manage things that way.
CoRREspoSDENr-What do you think of the next
Mr.. VAIIhS,TGiIAH-welIi II ls difficult inst now
to form an opinion about II. or course expect the
to wn but they can only do 1t oy accept
inu the situation II they fail to 90 that they Will
be beaten as they have heretofore.
Mr. ValIandigham went on to speak of state poll.
ties aud the prospect or The success OF the delo.
cratic ticket at considerable length. When speak
inu about national aEaI5 lie was very earnest III his
manner.