New-York tribune., 1871-12-27
COOPERATION IN ENGLAND.
DISCUSSION ON THE CONDITION OF THE NOV

MENT.
The adjourned discussion on Mr. Thomas
IIughes's paper "The present condition OF the Co
operative Movement renewed at the Of IN"
Social Science Association, ndon. on the nth inst the
char being taken by Mr.. Hughes
Mr. Edward Owen Grecnng opened the discussion. and
said that cooperation had only just put its foot into Lon
don. He supposed that all London cooperative societies
did contain than $1,000 members at the most IN
d an to
crush out the society by every possible means. He
n.yns Victims 70 prssrs.s RzSsrs.. sssossary but
whith the interests Of traders might be preservedhrs
the Government should compensate individuals incOn:
ever in England for any class that not po
,cay powerful. The only other mode was some social
the old traders, and employ them managers OF the
stores II one store superseded % shops the trades
men must turn producers AZ new markets for produc
MIR. Thos. Webster. F. r thought they could enter
tain doubt to the success Of the cooperative move
nrnt, it appeared to him that the important thing
for their consideration was to draw distinction between
cooperative stores and industrial societies. because 1t
latter they must look to for the solution OF the
difficulty OF combining capital with labor No doubt III
dustria societies cooperative but there clear
distinction between what were called cooperative store.
and industrial societies.
whO in commencing business, had taken the entire fisk
should share the profits with Their wokman. who had
taken no risk He had no objection to industrial part
nerships, but he thought this weak point with the
Mr. Vansttart Noale thought a man who understood
his business found more to his advantage to make
rSngenents " avoid the risk Of strikes than II he at
tempted TO found business III which he would be ex
posed perpetuay to that danger by endeayorng to put
Mo his pocket all the possible profits that might lie
got out Of the earnings made IN the business. In all
businesses wOrkmen should participate In tho profits
which they assisted to create and lie did not why
persons could not undertake businesses under these cODd
ons precisely with the same balance OF advantages and
disadvantages which made them undertake businesses
Mr.. Lloyd Jones said the CoOpcrator had no quar-
rel with the capitalist The ROthschilds were well
titled to what they possessed else however
small his possessions The complaint cOOperatOrs made
that the wealth Of society aggregated into the
hands Of single individuals III quantities too large for
justice to be done tO the whole OF society They wished
to supcrsede this by new system. which would dis
tribute equtably what produced BY the abOrs
OF the whole community.
Mr. Arthur A. Beckett opposed to cooperation and
cOntended that the Civil Service stores Ia LOngacre and
In MOnkwelst enjoyed advantages ana privileges
which were deuied 70 tradtsmen. They were exempt
frOm income and stamp duty, aud possessed other
movement was running many tradesmon. and especially
poor tradesmen and what Mr. Greenng proposed to do
was to take them from their shops and. as there
demand for skilled labor III the nOrth send these p0rty
tradesnen to supply the want. although they were To-
tally unacquainted with the nature OF Che work and this
was absurd They had seen what injury trades unions
had DONE and he therefore opposed to further
biDstion among wOrkingmen.
Mrs. Edward Hall testified tO the advantageous work
Ing Of industrial partnerships LII France; after which
vote Of thanks TO Mr. Hughes for his paper brought tho
proceedings to "A close.