The New York herald., 1871-10-04
He Remains q Prisoner in Els
Own House.
Another Church Pillar In the Clutches
Of the Law.
General De TrObriand's Views
OF the Situation.
Governor Woods Determined, Con-
fident and Unrelenting.


had the pleasure to-day OF meeting Colonel De
Trobriand commanding the Thirteenth infantry
and Camp Douglas, near this city. The General was
in excellent spirits and very courteously responded
to the few questions proposed.
WHAT GENERAL DE TROBRIAND SAYS.
Observation-Disclosures what do you think OF
the situation OF AFFAIRS In Utah today
GENERAL-Well, consider 1t much less threat
ming than 1t has been presented outside, from the
reports near from ali sources. Indeed, 1t seems
that the excitement IS greater ontside Of the Terri
tory than in Salt Lake City, Thls suppose. arises
from the uncertainty about the real condition OF
things here There is one all important point in all
the present situation, and tnat is that Mr.. Brigham
Young, President, and the elders of the Church
have come to the decision to submit to anv civil
legal process and to bow to the majesty OF the law
These people OF Utah. the
MORMoSs HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO OBEDIENCE
and discipline, and they entrey under the con-
troll OF their leaders. II THESE leaders had been
crazy foolish enough to attempt any violent re-
slstance and to encourage direct their people In
that way the difficulty would have been
serious indeed, although there would have
been In no way any doubt OF the re-
suit. Then these people could have been
dangerous, and bloody repression would become
necessary work; but they have adopted an entirely
different policy and for the same reason that would
have made them rise In open resistance they Will
now remain quiet under the advice OF their leaders,
Therefore apprehend no serious disturbances in
consequence OF the last judicial proceeding In our
courts. The indictment against Brigham Young
being bailabe, 1t cannot create any difficulty for
the present; but new questions may arise in
case an indictment for murder should be
found against him; not that even IN this case he
would resist warrant OF arrest, but the trial would
evidently bring the excitement to o climax, and
then, II found guilty and sentenced accordingly, the
execution Of this sentence would meet violent
sIsance from most OF his people. But these are
ticipations which may be realized; II SO. the
pressure OF American ideas, American prn-
ciplcS, American civilization, With the
steady action OF the Judiciary, will do
their work, and will alter and modify the moral and
ecclesiastical condition Of Utah. that the law will
reign here well In every other Territory or state
before long, and this without blooised. think that
the military power may be useful In certain cases
but lam far more confident in
MORAL INFLUENCES
to bring people to right understanding OF the
legality and to the necessity OF obeying the laws.
Brigham Young assures me OF his readiness to SUBJ
init 10 arrest without resistance. His best |
counselors agree with him. All intelli-
gent Mormons understand clearly that any
rebelllous outbreak would be followed by |
would not hesitate to do all in my power to aid the
civil authorities to enforce the laws against all sedt
tous opposition. The conflict which would ensue
would be SO disastrous to all the interests OF the
Territory be 1t among the MOrmons the Gcntiles,
that am convinced that al intelligent people among |
them Will unite to prevent any such calamity. The
military reinforcements ordered 10 report to at
Camp Douglas VIII have, In all probability, good
moral influence. But do not foresee any llkeli-
~ fhnf uyiIl hn
} riot or lnsurrecti0n. |
Your correspondent THANKED the General for his
and courtesy, and started to hunt up
Governor WOODS.
INTERVIEW WITH GOVERNOR WOODS
After my interview with General De 1robriand
the United States forces In Utah.
stroled down TO the Executive Mansion to see Gov
ernor Woods. met him on the street, keeping the
shady side for comforts sake, but ON greeting him
and informing him OF orders from the New YORK
HERALD headquarters, he invited me 20 Ills house,
and became, under the genial influences OF q pro-
fessona interviewer, anything but shady In the ex-
preston OF his views After lighting cigar |
spoke thusly to his Excellency:-
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES, what are your views
on the present situation In Utah!
GOvERNoR-From the present Indication do not
entertain fears Of any serious difficulty resistance
by force to The execution OF the law, although 1t ls
hard to determine what q wild fanaticism, such as
the basis OF Mormon Institutions might do. The
central idea Of Mormonism being theocratlc
In its essence B naturally In opposition to
the fundamental doctrines OF repub-
lican governments; hence the masses or
the people by the false teachings OF the eade rs
have cultivated o feeling Of opposition to the en-
forCement OF laws made by any other power than
that OF the Church, which Is considered supreme.
The masses Of the people are honest AMI outside OF
the influences OF the priesthood would be good,
law-abiling citizens. The blame rests upon the
leaders alone. Hitherto it has been
DIFFICULT TO ENFoScE THE LAWS.
Public opinion, moulded by the Church, mas been
opposed to the execution, but the influx OF Gentics
ii consequence Of the construction Of the Pacific
Railroad and the discovery OF the rich mines. has
wrought change, and now 1t is possible to enforce
the law and Il shall be done the same In Ctah as In
my other portion or the republic.
CoRREsPoNDENT-what has been the eject OF the |
PRESENT efforts to carry out the lawss
GovRRNoR-ft has been good. The presentments
" the Grand Jury against the leaders OF the Church
or adultery, growing out Of polygamy, which is
me OF the tenes OF the Church. ana for offences OF
more serious nature have naturally created q
rood deal Of excitement and nfeeling among the
masses Of the people, who have been taught to be-
ieve that their leaders were Immaculate. Hence
here has been great deal OF innammatory talk,
THREATS OF REsIsTANCB,
,ecret drilling OF men In the nighttime threat n
OF federal ofcials and apostats MO-
mons and Godbeites, doubtless with vieN TO In Z
imidate, but with little earnesness Foe this rea-
ON made rcquistion for more troop, Which are
low here. The influence has been Salutary, and
low I have no apprehension q any very
erIous trouble. n resstan0j ehould be In
erposed the supremacy cl the laws shall
10 maintained at all hazard. The courts are fear
essly doing their duty, ~pported by all the federal
nicers Of the Territory, and the result must be IN
he end oil that good citizens desire.
CoRREsPoNpsxr-lf II Brigham Young or any Of the
romine2s leaders should be indicted and tried lor