New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1871-03-01
LOCAL MISCELLANY.
THE BAPTISTs' CHOICE.


iu accepting lease o. land nom the city has so greatly
Increased. that yesterday afternoon the MadiSonave
Baptist Church was completely filed with profoundly
attentive audience The Rev. Or. keudrick presided,
and from the beginning the final taking of the vote
the debate exceedingly animated. Aftera prayer
by the Rev Mr. Brayton il resolved that the vote
the OF the resolutions should he taken AT
O'Clock. The Rev Dr. AT1ntage then opened the dis
cusion with a long argument in the Affirmative, which
IN substance as follows:
The case rs understand H. Is this: number Of hc-
neyoent ladies and gentlemen Bapsis Of TINS cy pc
ing impressed with the mcJgCr provisions maze l the
several churches for the relief Of their poor members
did m the wear 1862 organic themselves into society
having chiefly in view the founding Of Home for the
Aged. IGrm, and Destitute Members or Baptist
The I%gisat"re Of 9hS state of New-YorE en-,
powered the Commissioners Of the sinking Fund 1,
~ ground free Of rent which tO erect Home This
lease ias been eNeeuIea ana now tde question "a ~,
strUctng the trustees or the society retain OF a,
10 the question before understand that the OBJ
icctOu OF my brethren who oppose this retention are
Because OF the source from which the tender spang-
namely. the Commonwealth. 2 Because Of the reigl0s
character ~ the recipients Of the benefits which the
lease CorNcNs D. htcalse OF the SUPPOSED wv , t
thai must cnsuc nv the conference and acceptance
of such benefits from such source in fostering the
These objections designed 70 relate 70 the Ssue IN
fc following hearings l. that the retention OF inns eAe
involves uuiustIle Union between Bapustr ana ilo
state Government p That ne accSlance Oh az! aSIls
from Tire Commonwealth 0rthe support OF the lass
81 the poor contemplated, reflects upon our
that the retention will give license opohteaI corruption
shall vote for the retention Of this lease because
A. an act OF The Commonwealth, the case ITSELF ana
from time legal relief has been extrdcd to the
poor Commonwealth for this would not he strictly
destitute an ou'grovh Of revealed religion user;
Hcncc the fact lat 'uch thing as TIE "l
ths doctrine with political science anu cIHh gus!4
dcucr has never hCcu known IA any nation cXcepuhS
those whose ethics common Jaw; anu con
principles generally nave bee hiscd upon anu ~
fIou iCVcdcd religion IL appears quite clearly thai
IneuuIcancy unknown in the theocraoy or lsiael
I'm after the nation had been demOralized 10y the
BABY lOHsh captivity. In America the ascenlehey oI
iorcs tie civil Government because the fundamental
ideas OF Biblical Justice aud equality lie at the very
foundation of own political existence. The ground
Wor an 0 arts wealth literature. science free govern
,nent and ,Ibic charity Is Christianity Everything
here crytates tine individual who AT once the Gov
,rumrut and the end of the Government He is not the
rine eff tbe Goyeruuenf nor the ecgffoldme ly which
prom throne dynasty hat he Is the dynasty
and tbc throne 10 govern while he tue commonwealth
stands upon the radical ndiyiduasm Of the old Billie
ana Baptist principles And what J. mat Tut saying
upon humanity The word charity Is used in tie
paraucc o the state confined 10 the first sense OF the
word I'D Eygi,h as good affection" In the good c
ycuslip OF , citizen, the state reads claim of debt,
nnd the revenue which the good clizgn mas contributed
support from the state when he il unable 10 make fur
material contributions 10 it, And he receives it
Is not because he = religious man or an lTlesios man.
Nut uecau>e De Is citizen II II rthecuon on Juns-
prudence 10 say that what j. binding IN good VIII is not
= AN, IN favor OF retaining this lease because This
rief of N suffering citizens is in accordance with the
weltincd principles OF American Bapiists, while 10 de-
N
upon the historical app LEGATION Of those principles, ana
might involve aIepudiaton of them m me future Be
for can consent to the proposlti"n Of beginning 10
writ, Low cnupteI Of Baptist history Inus1 satisfy
nv self on the following points:
/ Before We write orr new chapter what aye to do
viii ihe old p ON whai plan can we con,''enuy be-
rhapcr backward or forward, from Oh" right to the left
or Inc left 10 the right
1ne speaker then went into a minute examination 81
cooperation of the Eapti,t with the Genera! Govern
incu in the missions among The American indians, say
iue that the circumstances ~ that successful union were
Then continued: While every man OF US would
the church ana The state many Of US cannot see
wherein infringe upon any sacred Principe OF
Christian faith while cooperate with the tiovern-
,Lp subsidiary work Of dispensing state charities
Ne have not done our duty 10 the poor ana especially
with Tie Young, whom We neglect Whlie me lH'inSh
Catholics neglect the old. Were We here 0tNSluE PEAs
a. add good orphan asylum 10 the Ola LADIES Home,
should bc acting mucn worthy VI Oh! position
philaI;Aiopl,ts and followers oi Jesus,
The Rev. Dr. William X. Williams followed Dr. Ami.
tagc and said that it had been remarked that prac
iic had opposed the resolution; and he wished TO
read the sentiments Of few truly practical
taincd tho following letters addressed 10 himself:
HEpYoRk Feb rs. 1871.
no. yr T, Frtr~r IT. Undersigned yes ie oN .L,os have
%" 4 sseeptsrce b, Baptist Bnevoeu society Of sssst
o. % 1 i1s > iacnis q qP'!> .s :aeh gpllf
go .-ri,gn Lem nav seen At bnt sight 70 90 en-;
,, G s art, RS ced to in Il. agents and oe
g. tt' lntso one S.s i ,t Tfsy . lut arc
cuaa-a We tah under which TIE Ipfser 1 ,.%s I
. re Srseor' Of whose properly her rueo oaf
On ss u the Trustees will distribute the public bounty
I'll o., 81 % ' I1, i5r sdoss1l Sisr IN such conn
ua olue-eenee governmental dstfbuton Of re
at @ sv@ S, secure IT, and al iy hoi no So, Of coa
c pubic '' ,, 70, , Si 1s 80 oPs ' so .
cter,c as reference made ~ those Who
another entirely sod aSs Of no considerable
70 Le o , T ,t s, ~ ,' ,s 20
te, rtrte eeeat moral I'd Bot that The valuable
Eon Of ne W should S At Gf o. our 5 g S as ". ,."s
ibcre o. particular ri deponnstOns, m ~ ali 'h@gbt
The wors sen tpo.1 h haero teeD done ctie'y me IN
& and , no rsn to doubt tbs The irf ,de Of potle
I, ~! coutun Tor
F evil VII he ioaad a. n2th in dat Egulaf nssa.oo which
IL, Roaau Cstiole Church pee we ihH, very
~, sromous be material, DELAYED b, e,ey 81 DE- t
,snare proaere TO oGr dycuaton viii Be but dat of ib
l,ape IL proportion 70 The Immense ana r0'ng 'qeiys 70 The
cofuss n m~r3 uhls 90 sue Ia ooglt u he keps a. cu
rler. 10 eot gra Baptist denomination in dss Of their
ien" S i- ~s Mi i ne trSsee Of ,t sSe. s
into oeertanoe Of m'eheseus f.yor We tsi
,Tpora, p5c day
Zane. aul desire that your eoanses prevail
we are youp. viii great r'sPee
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"a, nam. 10 t ier hau.rd Yesterday gurd BY De lie no.
"a, m. ae,.,g Of ,.i s s,eof public Ame
' I rem, se s on vi YOU lave sg 10 ih, matter
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