The New York herald., 1871-11-22
UAIra REFLECTION CERTAIN
oIlleotor Murphy vindicated and HI
retractdn Rebuked
1HE REPEAL OF THE CHARTER.
1Eass Grselsy's Course Governed BY the
Changes In the Moon.
DoUTwnLL's PoL1ov

1u0 I000It Oh vu0 r0Cout 0ieCtiOu prVvou Do'
yDnd Ill cavl that the administration party 70 enc
~ rsal republican organisation In this State, and
Ons Senator ConkiinR N its acknowledged head.
0naA lately many were wont to look upon Mr.. Conk-
~ @ only leader OF faction. but whatever diff
1sonce OF opinion may have existed on this point.
- verdict of the majority has clearly shown that
- d she foremost leader OF that party in this State
pkAls the faction headed by his why opponent has
lgm reduced to . mere clique OF ofnoe-seekers.
6ndsr these circumstances Senator Conkiings
VUace IA power IN the land, representing, ~ ne
ses the majority Of the Empire state In the Senate
- the nation independently Of being by hts great
sewers OF orstory, naturally one Of tho leading
members Of that great body. Observing the sgns
- the times, the HERALD authorized q member VI
- stan to call upon Senator ConKling and to obtain
- expression OF hts views on the situation.
Ending the Senator, BY previous appointment In
N perlor at the Fifth Avenue Hotel last Saturday,
Ne HERALD representative at once proceeded TO
busness. The interview ranged over q wide neld OF
3Dios ana was an unusually LONG one the HERALD
eGp0rter naturally. wishing TO make the most OF Q
vAse ana valuable opportunity. expanded the CON.
vursation many subjects Of national and local
1nseresk The Senator was careful In expressing
A1nselG well knowing that his utteranoes willoe
Whected TO vigiiant examination by his critics. but
kll ne SPOKE with his usual frankness and fulness
e language.
His remarks arc characterized by fairness and
noderation, even towards his most bitter detrao-
tsea When the interview took place the resgna-
nsn OF Collector Murphy was not yet publicly
known, although Senator Conkling must have
dearly forsssen It His vindication Of the Col
lscs0r's course acquires therefore, fresh signin-
uAnco from this fact In justice to Mr.. Murphy It
eheuld DO stated that Senator Conkling said stin
moro In his commendation than Is here reported,
swing details In proof OF his successful admnistra-
don OF the Custom House. The Interview began
TIE FRAUDS IN THE CITY.
1EPoRrER-What does the result OF the late elec.
IN provef
Ne administration. The canvass brought into
Drominent view the measures OF the administra-
6n and the charges against it ana the verdict was
nnmistakaby In reference TO these measures ana
unargea
RxroRrRB-But did mos the Tammany frauds
1Ave something to DO with the success OF the re-
tubican party in this Statef
Senator CoNKLISG-The frauds In the city helped
n tho country BY arousing resentment ana bringing
~ their own strength, and not by the weakness or
Ssassnt Of their adversaries. The aad 70 stved
1vom democrats was from individuals merely,
Ind, In this respect, the democracy was more
bartasan than tho republican party, for
59ample. In the Nineteenth Assembly
1nstrict Governor Seymour was nominated
Sad supported By the republican organisation
snA the whole body Of republioans In that district.
MI where In the State diu the democratic orEaniza-
aen nominate or endorse any republican, In the
sty the democrats gave the Tammany state ticket
- many votes were counted last year for Cover
aner Hoffman, less about four thousand, and the
xhmmany state ticket this year received three thou
Sand moro votes on Manhattan Island than 1t did
1W0 years ago. These and other facts show that the
Swenty thousand majority now for the republican
Dtase ticket does not come from the democratic
1arty, but nom republicans. Heretofore many
Sspublicans were non voting from despair, owing
. the apprehension that the election would be
determined BY
REPEATING AND COUNTING
the city. however the vote might be. In this cleo
Nom all republicans were stimulated BY the impor-
vance OF the ISSUE and the belief that the frighful
0)sclosures In New York would insure and ap-
ysoach to fair vote and fair count say there
tore, in answer 70 ycur question that the election
sh0ws the State OF New York TO be republican and
% approve and endorse General Grant IN his pres
eet admins tr alton and as his own success0F. The
e4y9ntaGe derived 10 votes from individual demo-
Eau came largely from the Germans. who are I'm.
Vat vote win remain as long ~ the republican
10y proves itsel worthy Of the support u honest
Hens And tnat u - long as any votes ought TO re-.
nam with tnom.
RzPoRIEa-Do you not include the Irish as coop.
1f1tors In the party OF reorm2
Senator OokkLING-The Irish did not organize for
wy Dy mn aos sus thus does mot show that
= tne rescue OF republican institutions NY faith
ca: irisnmcn, % Germans q . ana An Ames,cans win see,
master, the expulsion from Congress Of unworthy
AemberA the prosecution OF Stokes, and the earn
tot enOrt made 70 purge the service OF dishonest
4en. proof that the republican party Is the true ex.
3encnt Of reform, ana therefore, from our foreign
ran PROSPECTIVE IsPUBLIcAs PoLioY.
-. KERo.TEa-wnst Do you think, Senator. wiz be
senator CsNEIiSa-i think the aim aim wln be to re.
sns pS o. Tn s a
~ 70 idenlify themselves Win low tolls and TO I'M
tsal canal question. the canal question relates
flnuaacs Of ruinous CONTRACTS in the msintenaScs
% an army OF par0lmen AMI einissaries and such
~ this, and prove themselves the friends not cay
q cheap, but OF honest transportation. Tnis IS
sSnS a s q Of tps %s %s
Snsy rs = 9ns 81 ns Leading problems Of the age
me Whole pubic service Of the State rom ne haT
bor OF New YORK TO the smallest theatre OF extrava
rnos and IND abuse gives us an = opportunity 70 I'M
ne Legislature vill seek earnestly the best meas.
Escay in the City toaonins details Of isssatOn 1'1
fHs RErEAL OF THE CHARTER.
PAS obtained fo0thold In the legislature the re-
PEA QI the charter may be considered Q matter Of
1ertafnty 10 the Legislature likely 70 leave things
iney were before the enactment OF the charter or
N1q there be some substitute for itf
bcnatof CoNKLIN0-The present charter, which
EM calamity and bunder, II nothing worse,
4ust 20 down. What the substitute Will be II seems
q me NO one sow can definitely ioretell. The con-
f1ct Of plans and provisionB u up to this moment
Qroconcilape, and the result to be wise, should be
fhe average wisdom OF oil. Much OF the trouble
GIowA not put OF the system, but out OF persons
yho administer II The best system will fan In th
hands or had mon. and the worst eystAm couid ia
aolerated IN the hands OF good men.
k1rQRf1n-But should mot law be framed 10
1nt III conceivable emergencies, that II bad men
e1ouid set Into power their evn designs could be
senator CoKLrN0-By oil means, Laws should
- made looking 70 the worst Contingencies; and,
4fer tns lesson Of recent experiences, any republi
pan VII po dngraced VINO IL unwilling 70 adopt
md economy. II worst comes To WORT the neona