The New York herald., 1871-11-23
WE WILL HAVE IT.
The National Woman Suffrage CoDVen-
ton at Philadelphia.
p,tarminst,on Not to Ask but Dsmsnz ths Fran
ehia-pstticoatei Preachers pelosncing
"vic" woodruff and Refuse TO Enter
tain Her Free Love Propositions
Election O; ofiessS
PHILADELPHIA, Nov. n ,s7,.

PHILADELPHIA, Nov. n 1871.
Snf second days session OF the Nation Al gomen,s
eu6yacc convention met pursuant to fioarnment
n tou O'Clock this morning, a. Nation sl Hail. Mrs.
cutler President Of the association. sad the fourth
resolution, which had been under discussion yes
terday when the Convention adjor rned ana which
urged the necessity OF cons'itdt' caal amendment
expressive OF the rgnt OF fem Ae snrra.e. lhls
epsoutlon produced quite an exf ring debate
MRS. HlEDMAE's GEEcH
Nrs GIEDAAN, OF Plttsblrg, sald:--vne resolution
. complicated. When we ,sk fcr sixteenth amend.
nent It seems to me we are IsSng two quesIions at
Uuca yiz.:-First, to secu 70 TO the women OF tho
District OF Columbia and she Territories the right
q suffrage; and, second 4 70 provide general law
log the rest or the cour tyy. What understand ID
snis: there can be pass "a q constitutional amend.
nent simple and PERI ,cs In ITSELF expressing all we
aeslre We don't W. Ant the r1gnt OF suffrage under
the provisions OF the fourteenth and fifteenth
amennnrents. ! do not believe that those who
eassed them ever utended we should vote, ana
] 40 not desire 70 steal my way into the
eight OF the haior box with the negro.
We demand suffrage as our inanenape
ught, and We Want u guaranteed to us solely In
AncSler amend Elcnt
ar. VAN TRt Aux satd IL old not believe It neces-
vary 70 have q sixteenth amendment (aud he quoted
opinion o. Judge Canteer In support Of his argu
snenI that wouen have voted and did vote In New
: Jersey ia lS44. inc trainers OF the constitution
knew women voted, and to deny their right would
have been " wrae In the constitution. "Tnou shalt
not vote-n AZ Jsey did not do IT, they gave their
sacit female suffrage The constitutional
wording AN persons born or naturalzed IN the
United states, SIMPLY restored 10 women the right
% VOTE which they had originally. ! consider 1t
impossible 10 nave sixteenth amendment passed.
LOT rs act dinerently. Let us get Congress to draw
ne distinction that the capacity to Is the right
sovote We only waat Congress 10 assert that "all
persons shall vote and this revives the original
rights OF women, which have simply been IN abcy-
Ance clearly nold that the right TO vote Is an n.
Aorout one, present In the construction OI the
colonies aud their merging into the Union. Tho
Fuurteeath amendment dlstlncty takes away the
Barrier placed upon female suffrage IL Is no Ques
hon OF stealing IN lfIadies wanl Inc rights OF men
t0ey mus stand on tnis PLATFORM. 1t Is simply .
eeairmltion Of an old rignt, aud this must In
bAst upon Lei Us get Judges Of great legal
AvaIity W decide that the right OF women 10 vote
les hidden In the fourteenth amenament; better
lhis way than throw the question open TO the
masses as II would be necessary 70 do TO insure
sh0 passage OF q sixteenth amendment All wO
gant is simple deciaratOry act emanatng from
NRs CUTLER RISES TO EXPLAIN
Ars CUTLER, The President, arose 70 explain.
Her understanding with regard TO this legal point
ne SAID was ihe lollowing:--ln the formation
- our government those acted as the mouth
born Tree and equal" But TINS was not said III IN
the narrow sense OF sex, and we to-day,
s:,snaSls rights. Men oi.en build IO' better ter
than they know vt tirsL; there nothing done but
suppose OF the Declarasion OF ln,iepenlence. Con.
groSs Acts ike state Legislature towards tue Ter.
Bound 70 accord TO them republican form VI Hoy-
ornmcnt. In irAlnlny TINS resolution therefore, 1t
vas quite rlant 70 ash Of Congress 70 pass laws re-
pOGnlzns the right o women " vote IN these locali
tics, Mud it seems Clear W me t.aL tue fourteenth
end ihtconto amendments clearly recognize our
~ n "A Ik.S. .nA IN
khe interest of special class, out we must not
forget that the passage oil general Law Tor par
Acuisr class also guaranteed Whatever rights can
- fouad " come under tiiat Same general idea
bhip, winch appies to us fairy aud sQuarely under
Ne phrase 'aII persons.n 1nen comes tue right 10
sOts-some say AZ ~ uot . right uut privlege-but
maintain tie contrary. 1 say II is an inaiicnapie
ytgnt, aDu That you cannot maintain Q republican
term Oi government anu deny to hail the population
right 70 vote. Ihl5 may not De settled to-day or
to-mOrrOws Dut the truth like mighty rock, stands
lhere tnlnregnaDie against All assault. We DO not
eeed To De III 100 much bisIe. Let tue matter De
0iteu thoroughly.
Mr. BuRLEIeu CANNOT SEE IT.
Nj. CHAkLkS BUkLkL0H Degged " olner with The
fresiuent hirs. Cusicr, wltn regard 10 wonAn's
ngbi 10 vote. lie said tho Objects which the res0lu-
Non aims At seem W him TO be rightly aimed at.
have never yet been able 10 zee tnat the rlgut OF
voting Is secured legally 10 women under any
ptrumenL which Is recognized having the force VI
NV. republican form oi gOyerHment does not
nean universal suffrage, iur We KNOW tue trainers
republic would include even all the naes OF the
country. TINS Is not correct idea
accept that Affirmation the makers ol Ii under.
stood II, aud thus hold nave no right 10 20 70
Any use Of legal quiopng in the matter. Il We
stand on simple rights let stand therc IL con.
sututonal authority, we have no right 10 warp mat
hnthorty aud SO with the question 0i citizenship
u oOcs not Imply voice Ia the government ny any
0oans To be a citizen though IL II said now uat
eatlzcns aiid persons are the same THIS also be
aenled In legal light The view take is That cI-
senshp Does not necessarily imply the right to vote
And .ieD again. IL Is said these acts simply de-
eaaraticns OF impnei rignt. Tnis am not sure
correct either, since we happen 10 know at the
present time tlal the great body OF the people DO
Dot understand II, ana SO we must state our views
" some special phrasiD2 that VIII properly enlbody
shem. say that we have competent evidence over
coming ;hc presumption that the constitutional
amendments recognize what We desire. Ihe pre-
eQmpli0n before the evidence IL but as the chan
Any thing, anu therefore II Is lony to urse t.
Even II ihe lawyers uid make case IL seems TO
- thai we should not stand their bubbles; we
AhouiJ stand on the Droauer and yet unrecognlzcd
platform mat the women have right TO vote; thai
woman nds hight To be recognized, out not light
70 vote az yet The State N duty bound 10 deter.
mine who SHALL be voters. The state stands 10 tie
saiizens parent 10 child ana II the slate say 5
certain class have Right to the franchise 1t Is It's
Auy 10 SAY 80, and our part Is then 10 meet them
with sounU argument The right OF voting Is not q
aaturaI night, but the right to demand recognition
" peadng for such privilege Is a natural light. 1
Am Ll avor oi woman sulraae parity ior this
season. tnat itw III make wider range or political
tducauon. But do not believe IN woiaans ualu-
ca ryht 70 vote AUD therefore Cannot accept tue
epnioils VI those VINO claim tnat she has already
khls right
emendiug Tie iouIth rest utlCn. Before IL coud bo
read, however ea eAclteu individual Iumpea up
anu desired ~ speas IN opposition 10 the views OK
NJ. Bufeish, but he Was ruled cut VI order and
took his seat.
ms. COUGH WILL HAVE TEMPERANCE FIRST
Mr.. OotDH ousred substitute CaiII.lg upon Con.
sgress 10 pass sacn laws will give 10 every Capable
woman IN the lanu the right oi suffrage. she did
Dol wish 10 sneak into the privilege VI voting
0rousA The medium VI q sixteenth amendment
when Dtemperauce, which they were sure 10 over.
come, WAS iasaglng tlen homeA Congress py
passing laws giving the IIgnt TO women 10 vote
wCud At tue same time give them the power 10
orust intemperance at once
Aitf some inenectual cross nrlns between Mrs.
eoirh aud coonel 1igginson, Mi. blackwell on
eehau u tie buslne ess conllittee offered The follow
Ing resciutons:-
hesosc1 that suffrage means equality 10 the home,
- arrac-.
k~soved That the ssaop of the peace ,er,perapcr and
esnei re oFkas VI the day 10 mes 10 Of crsspr
= phonc sentiment In favor
Sonsbclag iae men engaged OF tie rec-ssy of