The New York herald., 1871-07-11
ORANGE AND GRIBN.
CSNTINuRD FROM THIRD PAGE,
conversed al length with them as to the course they
intended 70 pursue, and their views On
Tuu AppRFUENDED RIOT


but at the same time did not refuse to converse
upon the subject of the celebration to answer In
straightforward manner the questions put to
them. They considered that they were perfectly
0sted IN the course they intended to pu. sue, and
dcaaed that they wished to deprive any citizen OF
privileges which they enjoyed themselves; at the
time they argued that one man's liberty Is cir
transcribed by another mans right; that no one
should be at liberty insult body OF citizens under
neither passion nor excitement visible In any OF
the men while they discussed the question. nor were
any threats INDUCED In as to what would be done
but on each occasion when the question was put
would there De riot, they quietly answered, with
that 1t depended on circumstance The first man
TO whom the HERALD reporter addressed himsen
was rather Intelligent man. IN the decline q e. ne.
tered at once into the SUBJECT said ne thought II q
very serious araa IL %oa1 eas was
the bottom OF IT. In answer to the reporter ne
stated mat ne was not hibDonman' @ Hioernsm manor or
Catholic by birth, but had lived very many years IN
this country and was now
AN AMERICAN CITIZEN
REPoRTER-What effect do you think Archbiscoo
McCoskey's circular VIII have on The Hiberninnsy s
BOss-lt will only make matters worse. IL mas
just nad the eject or tanning The name thousands
VINO knew aS11 20 % te or a hT,
the clapels. Every one Is talking OF 1t now, and
the peoples minds are excited ,,,,.s
encc VIII be able to restrain the Cathocsf
No; this tnng has nothing TO do with the priests.
] am pretty good CathOlH-thatls ls to say am very
much attached to my religion but do you think
would mind what bishop, or all the bishops in the
once the people get excited they won't care that
lsnappng his 1ngers) for what the Bisnop may say.
REPORTER-Then you think the priests win not be
able to stop their ocks from taking part in rot
am certain they won't. and what Is more, tell
harm than good. The Orangemen viii be made
more resolute because they Will say:-"Oh you see
whatever n l
ter, and the Orangemen VIII find their mistake If
they attempt to walk.
the Irish Catholics to deny any body OF ctizens the
right OF paradIng when and where they nkes
1--WE don't want TO prevent citizens doing what
they like, but that is just the trouble. These men
are not citizens, for they cannot be citizens and
loyal, but IL is not TO America they are loyal, but
to King William and his successors. These men
and foreign sovereign when they march out in
free republic under the nag OF an English king, and
government which they insult and despise. tell
you, sir, 1t Is a big question how Mayor Han can
zens and who insult the republic by naming the
banners OF king through the streets Indeed. |
a o nsr s a O
keep within their club rooms"
vSsl Sniting the Oldham, who was waxing some
acuon OF the Orange society. the reporter d.
rected hts steps towards one OF the side sections
where the auarrymen were at work, 10 the hopes OF
hndng one OF the most tnnential OF the qnarryiug
bosses. After q little time the reporter came upon
the boss who was In his SHIRT sleeves experimenting
,he operations OF strong gang OF fine, athletic
ian ugly fellow to meet IN row." Going up 10
him the reporter saluted him. and the saluIation be-
plunged into business by asking him whether or not
nus men intended en- to work on the 18th After little
neSa nesa1On o, ne, ne replied my men wont work they
asked them; but know it privately"
REPoRTER-what do they intend to do on the 1oth'
n Cpntl fnnu opo nlnn fo hoxa
6 psTSaps aSns
know, yet.
REpoRrER-wm the men on the Boulevards work
Boss-I guess not II one party leaves work all
VIII quit; but i Know very well that no one win
REPoRTER-How many men are employed about
the quarrles aud the B0uevardsY
BOSWELL, should say there are somewhere he. |
tween SIX and eight thousand men-all strapping, |
honest, hard working men.
REPoRTER-what is your opinion Of this Orange |
parade9
Boss-w ell, think they ought to be put down.
don't see why they should come over TO this free
party tunes and insulting people. Mind am not
talking an irisnman a Catholic was born IN
this country and am American; but don't see
why these Orangemen should come here playing
party tunes and getting up muss. This isn't Eng
nese old quarrels ought to be left at home II tney
want to have picnic or parade let them go out
pee viii say an snysSns to snem ana no
REpORTER-Dont you think it would be better to |
ADVISED nv men to lie, them
alone; there ls no doubt they are paid for getting up
row In the hope p Of npseitng things but the
they would die out IN few years and then The af-
fair would be settled.
REPORTER-Tnen you Will keep your men at work |
on the l2th2
Boss-If they like 10 work they may, but won't |
to go and maintain their rights This i is ' e free
country, but men should not come out trailing their
coats and looking for fight
REPoRrER-But these men say they have as much |
right to parade as anybody else 80
BOSWELL, am man to look at both sides Of a |
S Catholics e 'sj Ply DIH
that houss aad So%a party n ns ups RG
said sa tn the Boss. pointing to wooden house
at ,tI some distance Wen, an od man named Brady
fne young Fellow, who was born in this country, and
was the chief support oil his family. Last l2th Of
July he was carrying some tools through the Park, |
interfering with no one, when he was shot dead by
g 2Sa4f9H ssa sP9 2 Aa5 VI; sH5 is saTa sass
Grand Boulevard struck number OF men who wefe |
engaged digging and shoveing in a most lndustri-
XIV Mere essa sons tie a sSi apoTe
was sQQn going over the old ground, but this time
lent hooked nose ana darS aeicS restless ssta eye
who confessed himself q Hibernlan, and was the |
principal spokesman OF the crowd.
. REPoRTEK-Why do you object to the parade Of |
the OranRemenf
observation-disclosures when they are allowed to |
parade tney don't know how to conduct themselves.
They were allowed 10 snow themselves three years in
and no notice taken OF them until last
year, when they could not pass the Catholic church
in Finy.ninth street without firing into it. Tnat |
was the cause OF the riot last year. The Catholics
we're quietly at work along the Bouevards, and |
there was no intention to attack them until the |
word was passed along the works that they had |
ired into the chapel; then the men quit work and |
followed them. SO That whatever happens, they |
brought II on themselves. Americans forget how |
these men treated as when they had the power, and
forced US TO say mass in the ditcnes and they would
do 80 again. II they got the upper hand In this city
0 dog could not live under them
, REPoRrER-Do you think there will be riot H |
they paradeS
HIBERsIAN-If they march playing the party tunes |
some OF them Will never march again.
haaa nIn hax 20 a ri6xhi fo ha