The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-07-25

nad htmSelf nOminateN Tor GOVernOr last ume, IN
spite OF all opposition ana was elected The lead
ing men of the party didn't want MIN tnen and
most OF them would have been glad at MS deieat
He beat the whole party. A man who can do that
IN our State is nooody's looi and he's not TO bt
laughed at"
"Haveyo hao any relations with Grant since nc
became PresidenJ2"
None whatever. discovered aJ the begI'nlnQ
that he intended gong back the men who elected
HIM, ana didn't want TO have anythlng TO DO win
hun. had two interviews with him al er ne was
elected and before he was inau2urated. Inc lead
ing men OF our State got together, and we con
GUIDED tnat II We wanted Cabinet ohlcer we had
better ask it, ihe question was who would go ana
see Grant. They all seemed AFRAID OF him. AT last
said. IN go but some Of you had better 20 along
to washington. We were well received. and Grant
said ne would consider the matter. He assured me
on That occasion that In any event Cameron should
| visit made alone. l carried letter from Judge
Read or our State TO Grant, which afterwards
ernor Curtin going into the Cabinet. The result OF
that interview appeared at The time IN the news.
| claim OF Curtin upon Grant, when, In fact, did
| nothing OF the Kind. When l handed him Judge
depart he said wait minute, Colonel; this letter
relates TO matter upon which want TO talk with
the letter. Then followed the Conversation. wherein
he informed me that under no circumstances would
ne appoint Curtin; and l. In turn, gave him piece
COLONEL FoRNEY ON TUE SITUATION.
Leaving the representative man OF the .Curtin
publican party OF Pennsylvania, happened to meet
Colonel J. W. Forney the genial Collector OF the port
OF Philadelphia who, am informed, Is to be chair
man OF the National Republican Committee in the
coming Presidential campaign. In communicating
come to the conclusion that Forney knows how TO
run campaign Why, in the campaign OF 800 he
was chairman Of the State Central Committee here,
but, bless your soul he was virtually chairman OF
the National Committee, too for tney did nothing
NOR az Foruea
| Is always In good humor and since he has become
Collector ne Is more gracious than ever he is an
older and more experienced politician than Mcclure.
| Perhaps he is better acquainted with Pennsylvania
politics and politicians than any man living, except
| General Cameron. His opinion therefore, may be
worth at least much as that Of Mcclure concern
Ing the prospect in pennsylvania.
A HARD QUESTION.
II hope you don't want place in the Custom
House." said the Colonel. laughing, as we shook
NO." replied. 81 want to know who is going
to be President after the 4th OF March, 1871
swell. that Is some distance anead, and your
| i'll my own mind, that General Grant will be the
man; though OF course there Is difference Of
opinion about it,
'You think he Will be renominated by the re.
| publicans"
"Unquestlonably. and reelected, too That has
been my firm belief for some time past In october,
1857 wrote article, after consultation with the
late General Rawlins, Judge David K. Cartier ana
| Senator Thayer, wherein / renominated Grant and
predicted his election to second term. In 1854,
when an organized attempt was made by the friends
OF Judge Chase 10 defeat Lincoln, wrote an article
urging his denomination. That article was tele-
graphed by Stanton to all parts OF the country.
Now, the reasons which were urged for the renOml-
nation OF Lincoln hold good TO certain degree
with regard to Grant. To be sure we have armed
rebellion on our hands, but we win require man
in the White House for the next four years who win
be not to abandon any or the fruits Of the war,
and In my opinion Grant Ii the best man we eau
get"
THE KEYSTONE OF THE ARCH.
~ suppose you share the opinion OF all public
Union9"
"Yes; experience is rather on the side of that
time who would be likely to doubt it. In IS4O Penn
sylvana was carried by the whigs and that secured
never elected a President except when they carried
Pennsylvania and the democrats never were de.
feated except when they lost her; and 30 Since the
republican party came into existence"
THE CAMPAIGN OF 1s56-How TO DO IT AGAIN.
"YOu ought TO know something about it, l be-
lieve you mad some experience in managing the
State in the campaign between Buchanan and
eyes; the campaign Of 1856, when was chairman
OF the STATE Central Committee. about which there
has been so much discussion, was IA Drisk and some-
wnat original AFFAIR. The democrats won that ngnt
sfH zig ahab M BRnsas ana
Because the party consented to severe and
thorough discipline. With that pledge we got thou.
sands OF old line wing votes and with that discipline
We united the democracy into solid phalanx. l
stipulated for absolute control and got il. never
called formal meeting OF the State Committee after
the FIRST but worked with secretaries shorthand re-
porters agents aud speakers and writer's from July
unit! November, necessarily. day end night"
"How did YOU run the thing, Colonel ~
"There two elements that aided us i'm
mensely. These were personal and social Kindness
to the gentlemen on the other side, and liberal ad-
vertlsIng in the newspapers l think gave about
rs many dinners that campaign. generally at the old
Merchants Hotel, as any one man ever gave IN the
same period OF time, paying nearly the entire shot
Out\Of my pocket. 1t lett me at the close OF the
hight as near beggar as ever was In my life.
There at the social board two three hours every
afternoon met all sorts OF peopie-very often my
personal friends among the republicans and old
managed TO keep alive very kindly feeling which
operated most powerfully during tie campaign, and
paper man, knowing that after Ill they are the
worst paid and most useful OF campaigners and
lied the opposition. When the battle ''V was
sentiment followed faithful service in the
cause loved there was no man In the democratic
party bold and brave enough TO charge that DID a
single act In that whole campaign OF which had
any right to be ashamed. am quite convinced that
in the great struggle OF next year It would not be
lost Idea il the policy pursued in 1866 were Initiated
PENNSYLVANIA ALL RIGHT.
"What do you think. Colonel, OF Grants chances
IN PENNSYLVANIA In 1872, providing he Is re.
"rhe feeling throughout the State now is very
strong IN Evor OF Grant His general course meets
change in year, and believe Grant win get
larger majority here next time tnsn he did when ne
feeling among the republicans throughout the State"
THE NEW DEPARTURE.
"What do you thinK OF the democratic new de.
at Is rather bad for the democrats. Some OF them
QOn't seem 10 take well To Inc matter seems TO
have originated our State. with Lewis @. Cassidy,
VINO is controlling spirit among the demo-
crazy. Cassidy Is a clever Fellow, and was always
an advance. democrat. HIS sympathies, ! think,
were with DNkglas, though he stlll maintained his
place IN the OH ranks. The democrats are only try
Ing to DO now what they cannot very well Aelp
dolng-namely, recognizing the fact that we have
mad rebellion, and that It has produced great
changes. The trouble with them is the people cam
not and 90 not trust them"
"Do you think they will draw on republican
voterssn
'Not one that would not have gone to the demo.
Gratis without inducements being held out No man
who believes IN the principles OF the republican
party VIII be cheated by the false lights exhibited
by the democracy at this late day. think, on the
other hand, there will be q great many democrats
who VIII refuse 10 recognize the new Departure
II 10 called, and while they may not vote the
publican ticket they Will refuse TO vote for the demo-
cratic candidates
WHAT SENATOR CAMERON THINKS.
At his elegant mansion, '"Locnel," ON the banks
OF the Susquehanna, the venerable chairman or the