New-York tribune., 1871-07-29

the measures taken years TO improve the condition
OF the soldier and the various measures which formed
part OF tho Government scheme he said he had
2ed the whole Indian army on the beneficial prlncipie
ralty administered The affairs Of the Navy on the same
principle, and could like the Duke Of Somerset testify
retary OF the Treasury. Nor did he why political
Secretary of State for War should he more exposed 10
ralty II the bill passed every officer would nave lhe same
sessed. Taking the Duke of Rchmond's own hgnres,
not more than 42i00O additional would he required 10
secure regular flow OF rromolon Lot1 , haillak
quoted Lord Srathnain and other IN support
of his position that the want of sufficient professional
qualifications mainly chargeabe upon Purchase ana
pointed out the effect OF the rejection OF the OIL upon
overregulaon payments. He asked their Lordshps to
pass the Oin the interests OF the officers themselves
Lord sathnan said he feared that the bill would in6ct
serious injury the regimenta system, which he be-
heved was the backbone OF the military organization.
He entertained the strongest objection to the power Of
Judging Of the merits and demerits OF officers being
placed in the hands OF the Secretary Of War and the
Commandern-Che The Secretary OF state was great
political officer with strong political bias it was sad
that system Of selection had worked well in India.
but he heard every day statements OF very opposite
anomalous institutions. had worked wen In prac-
provided for the advance OF merit, for the
trement OF neicency, and for the infusion OF Young
blood into the army. IL disseminated thIoughout the
might DC or material service on the reserve IoIees III
was said that ihe purchase ~ stem was an ersoerato
depended upon wealth. and not upon rank.
ministerial cheers.l In occasional instances the
purchase officers, hut these more than counter
balanced by its advantages In removing the purchase
officer step nearer to the top of the list Lord sah-
narn admitted that the professional education OF The
that lay not with the officers but with the War ONCE
@ ne bbSEa s 10 c V nrbv Tnrcs and would Lose
by Its abolition, because he would have 10 provide the
fdnd now provided by the officers themselves.
The Duke OF Argyll began by noticing some Of the
points raised by Lord Russell and next referred to the
arguments il defense of Purchase which formed the
staple OF the speeches the Lords opposite although
they an declared that It mdefensble IN theory.
IoIye dnaied Sv moiev. and Wholly irrespect-
i've OF comparative merit, he adduced the
fact that from Rs,O0O,UJO to &lG,mGC0O was in
vested by 5000 officers. In proof OF Tie imros-
eibihtv Of touching the Army system without coming
volvcd The Duke Of Richmond having objected tLat
the Commander-inChic had power 10 veto the ar
a veto il incapable in its very nature OF supplying
the place OF selection. You want Tor command tde
best man yOu get but unless the veto is exercised
t0ties quotes until you get the man you want which Is
obviously impossible II is fGRcCus 10 assert that the
nCe Iflf fnd ~ II crdS gdS Nothbroo s inst fo,nta my
thar he sent TO the Horse Guards TO ascertain whether
sirgie case Of veto. and the return was nil for
the whole of the Regular Army Cheers So enor-
the money interests invested In Lle army uat
without the risk Of touching the Of The officers
viii give your lordships some examples ihee , ySis
| the rank of Cornet and ensign. My rtht honorable
] r..
ject but was imnedatel{ cohphleu ~ h. lneil"n VI
overTeguatiOn prices. DO not know whether the pro-
very Very " small proposal and it is enough for The
purposes Of my argument 10 show that, small
| without running our heads against the diff
cutes of the Purchase system; LEI Ine taSe ahonr
which reported in favor Of introducing principle
Of Coioneis in the army. Of the drs officers pro;
NOTED TO that rank on account OF ms dsllntulshed
services and not on account OF his seniority, was my
noble friend the noble LORD cplosile W4o sI4Ae otry
in favor Of this Iill. This, however, com
planned Of 10y COionels in the Guards ana others as lu-
was held and the system was withdrawn, aud believe
nv noble friend posidated in consequence OF us
being supposed that his appointment ON account OF as
tngnshed services interfered with the claims OF
seniority and purchase. Now, there are two eI-
our Army system without running your heads
against Pgrthgse To the Price t of oGS com
say, threfore, that although Purchase Will not prevent
SoWeT Of Wealth in the army win bo increased Iearj
| But 1 have another objection TO the system; Noble
not make an officer. OF not; but your Purchase
system interfercs with promotion by merit increases The
expense Of entering tho army and prevents merit re-
The Purchase must stand fall a whole, and unless
than that described hy Lord Derby, It's apoogsts must
resign their pet scheme. What, then, was the use Of
moment the Government OF the DAY declared
! form Of the Amendment, which was Intentionally
eYaGs dGs t5 on ne ne 1Fg Of n,cwaT5 M @ n, @ @
B with fairness the Government plan az deyel, ped
= by Lord Northbrook. He described the mode Of
Selection by the COmmanderin-Chief aud the seclC-
tafy for India, and asked why system OF Selection
apart from politics should not answer for coloneces
/ nands. Lastly, he objected TO the Amendment as
an unconstitutional infringement of The preroga-
tves OF the Crown, because asked their Losips 10
refuse pass bill for the reorganization of the Army
until the Crown had embodied the details in the fCr OF
a bill. This the Government did not intend tP do,
and If their Lordships example were followed by the
House Lordsbiys would be the first 10
plain
The Marquis Of Salisbury declined 10 discuss the ques-
ton upon the ground Of the interest OF the British
officer. Dismssing with contempt the allegation that il
their Lordships adopted this amendment the next bill
might not provide for the payment Of OvefTeguaoon
payments he alluded 10 Lord Derby DESCRIPTION OF the
d@RE oR work 5af In td e ss ReI Reform Tas b HGt
Declining, however, TO believe that the new constituent
men Lord sshnIv Setsprd that Whatever statements
had been made the contrary notwithstanding the OFF,
iOus that IL should not pass. 1t possible that II
all We thrown upon desert Island Purchase
a then," he he added II am " not quite satisfied that
should proceed at once 70 establish House Of Lords
longs. Cheor and laughter But in every nation that
has a history there are Institutions which have grown
pass those paper institutions which may be devised
upon the soundest possible principles and put into
act OF Parliament OF to-day and such is the position OF
the system OF Purchase.
Lord Granville regarded the speech of the MARQUIS OF
Salisbury illustrating how far of the ablest
bers OF their LOfdships House could push sarcasm and
invective. Replying generally upon the whole debate
Lord Granville stated authOrtatively that although the
Government would not be unmndful Of economy,
fbe War Office would with all speed apply itself
to enforce the plan laid before the House and the
country in this debate II the Government desired
mere party TRIUMPH they could not wish for a more
favorable state things than appear to be engaged
struggle in which they were certain TO be victorious, to
prevent the removal OF abuse which sup
posed 20 be connected with the class-interest of
that House. But, owing as he did more than
perhaps any one else to their LOrdshps House,
he besOuglt them 10 pause and 10 remember the posi-
tion held by that during the Conservative leader
ship of the late Duke Of Wellington and Lord Derby
respectfully The policy OF the Duke was 10 avoid col