The Abbeville press and banner. [volume] (Abbeville, S.C.) 1869-1924, 1871-06-09
THE HERALD INTERVIEWS EX-GOV-
ERNOR ORR.

ERNOR ORR.
What Kind of a Republican the Judg
is-Ku Klux 0utrageS and CarpetbaE
Rule-The Lost Cause of Andy John
son-Unclc Sans Regulars Of no Us
in the Palmetto State-Sheraan'
Chances for the Presidency-The Dem
ocratic Party and its Policy.
The condition Of the Southern
States under rule Of the Radicals
being the absorbing question !oI
home policy, and the utterances Of
Southern men of position and in.
1luencc concerning the future OF
those States being especially i'm.
portant at this juncturc. Hclul|
reporter was yesterday dispatched
to the Grand Hotel, on Broadway
where Mr.. Orr, Governor of South
= Carolina under Andy johnson, was
stopping, for the purpose of getting
his views on the political situation.
Mr.. Orr was accessible alter dinner,
and WAS pleased to meet a repre-
sentative of the Hcraht. lie arrived
here On Saturday for the purpose
of transacting some private bust
ness, and will leave for Annapolis
this morning. lie Is one of the
visitors to the Naval Academy.
The Ex-Governor is q stout, rosy
chcelle !, good-humorca gentleman
about sixty years of age.
After some preliminary talk Mr..
Orr said, in answer to a question
put by the reporter, that he did
not think much would come Of
sending United States soldiers into
the South at this time.
Reporter. They will be able to
put down lawlcSsness in the South,
Governor, will they not?
THE SOLDIERS USELESS.
Mr.. Orr. No: and I will tell You
why. The lawless PERSONS don't
commit crimes where there are
armed forces; it is only in wild and
unfrcqucuted places that they
operate. 1t takes some time for
II messenger to reach the place
where the soldiers are Stationed,
and Il longer time for the latter to
reach the scene of disturbance. or
course when they get there they
find nothing to suppress and no.
body to arrest.
Reporter. Then You admit that
lawicss bands exist in the South?
Mr.. Orr. Indeed | do; at least
in South Carolina. / don't know
how it may be in other States, but
we have ct them. They are .po-
litical bodies, too. Can't ay,what
they are driving at; but, undoubt-
edly, they are .actuatcl by hatred
ct the Yankees. They are trou-
hlc and i nuisance TO all citizens
who are
DEsIRoCs OF PEACE AND QUIET,
ard these are a majority of the
people of the State. Most Of them
are suldiers-bad ones, no doubt
Of orr (Conlcl lcratc) army; but Of
this | s.r not certain. i suppose
Eu Kiax would be the proper name
Tor them.
Reporter. If they are trouble
some 20 the peaceful citizens "t
the State. why don't the eisizenS
suppress them i
Mr.. Orr. That's just it. I wish
they would suppress them. II
Wade Hampton and the ether
Generals of the State, who have the
confidence Of the people, would
only declare themselves against
the Ku Klux and their damned
rranks, there would be peace at
once. But you see they won't.
They arc sore. They have their
backs up because they were not
enfyanchiscd. Had they been par
doned and given the franchise: the
Ku Klux would not have had cx-
istence, in our State at least. They
arc su'len now, and let the niggers,
carpet-baSgcrs, scalawae:s and ku
klux send the State to the devil
in their own way. lisa pity that
a different policy had not been
pursued. If the reconstruction
OF johnson had been given a fair
trial there would be- different
state Of affairs in the South to-day.
I was in favor of Johnson's policy
all along, but now [ see where hc
made a mistake; he should not
have tried to run the whole bust
ness himself, but have called Con
grcss together and submitted his
programme Of action to them.
believed Congress would have sup.
ported him, and all weuld have
been well. 1t was
"A PERSONAL FIGHT
'bctwcen him and Congress in