New-York tribune., 1871-07-27

streets Of Winnipeg on that day. Ihey had banhc ana
wore the regalia OF the Order but had no baud About
100 members mustered. COO emisrGnts had arrived.
FOREIGN FACTS AND OPINIONS.
TIE ARMY BILL IN THE HOUSE OF LoRDS-EARL
DERBY ON POPULAR POWER.
In the House of Lords, on the 14th inst, the
adjourned debate on the Army Regulation bill was re-
sumed by Lord Russell, who, after aluding TO the dim
twilight in which the Government scheme had been
shrouded said that Purchase so indefensiDle
in principle that 1t only needed Government declara
ton against 1t to insure its fan. 1t would, however,
be necessary, in conformity with the uniform
practice OF Parliament, to make liberal proyi-
sion for vested interests Defining the relations which
ought to exist between the Secretary OF State for war
and the Commander Chief, he bore testimony 10 le
perfect impartiay OF the Duke OF Cambridge e next
passed I'm review the Improvements necessary for army
the reserve &C. and declared that England had not "A
sufficiently large army for the defense Oh @ gTe't & g0u
sion of opinion that their Lordships required de-
lay for tne pn1P 9 short complete plan he asked
whether sufficient confidence could be felt that II TINS
bill passed the House OF Lords, would the House OF
Commons next session agree to complete scheme ahd %
the money for that purposef LOOng PACK 10 the
! slashng motion made by MT. stansield during the
PalmerstOn administration, III favor OF reduction OF
expenditure he said tnat Mr %as nov df T h
army seemed likely TO be the popular measure OF 1874
NV Lords the before usno OF course, the only
issue but still that which is by far the most pertinent
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system of purchase in the army. lIIear, hearJ We
may comment other matters, We may discuss other
projects amending military arrangements but
this, after all, is the question as to which the
country is waiting to see whether We, We say
fhis proposal, then should be the iust 10 cay
thcr plan ought not To he accepted merely because u
NAV contain some other proposal which think It de
erable to accept IT, however they are right III TINS pro
pught to be rejected merely because some many
even most OF us, may think II Imperfect ana may con
slider that many other provisions ought TO be included in
4 ia question
no. and my noble friend Uhe Duke OF hcnmOhuJ,
,"bose straigbtforward way OF dealing with pub
Iic questions is acknowledged all hands, would
am sure the last person to deny that the proposal
iecfEcopsderiug il would to decision for n
wear or twos only polite way Of telling the Govern
nent and the majority of the House OF Commons that
thew must take back this bill and reconsider it, Cheer
What now contend for hen is that II the thngis To
he done YOU cannot show any valid reason why
the uresent time should not be good for doing
1t as any other time at which you are Iaely 10 be
called uuOn TO do IT, Cheers. Well the frat question
have to ask myself ssuppOse personally saw nothing
Ia object to In Purchase SYSTEM suppose TOOK IL
ienient view of Purchase, highycolored view
GERS who have encrgencaly ueienueu ~ III announcer
place, sti the question have TO ask IS not whether
these are my views personally, not whether they
are the Of small OF even large number OF people
i'm my own class of le but whether they are nBey 10
be the views which VIII he adopted py thOse VINO
are the governing power OF TINS Gonnuy. I & Wna, !,
is i'm the last resort the governing power III THIS country
II does not rest with this House, ana may say so Win
perfect absence from Otfense because can equally say
that II does with the other House any more than
with this Nv lords the nal the decisive appeal is TO
the constituencies and the question You have TO ask
Yourself is suppOsing you can postpone inc one
two or three xears what will be the decision when the
Judgment OF the constituencies comes 70 Dc taken upon
ftf lChcers and counter cheers.J ,
supp0se every one will admit that there is no gain,
and,there NAV be considerable ncOnyenience in throw
ing out bill of this kind for year or two AT the END
az at time we are necessarily called upon to pass IT,
cannot think it digned course cannot CONCEIVE OF
course more useless either 10 ourselves OF 10 the puDc
fhan'to nut out our strength merely for the purpose
of postuOnng for two or three years settlement
which We believe 10 be ultimately inevitable, un-
loss we have "a reasonable and wellgrounded nope
that In interval we shall be able 70 modify lhe
terms of the settlement which will be ultimately come
In Hear hear Is there any reasonable prospect OF
that No institution can stand IN the long run wheh
does not admit of being successfully defended before an
audience composed great extent OF partly educated
and am afraid In small extent OF unedueated, per
sons I'm all the excitement OF contested election III
Is moi enough that the system should commend teef
TO those VINO have had practical experience OF ITS work
ing. Any institution which Is successfully 10 pe de-
Tended must carry its justification upon ITS iace or else
1t quite certain to go down & IN 'ne & mst ga ci 10 so
easily obscured by Misrepresentation, whether wful
or the result OF Ignorance VIII not say as ,he system
of military purchase ii you were 10 ASK the hrst ~
persons you met in the street what their opinion pur-
chase ls perhaps nine or ten woud not know What you
meant and on the other hand probably nine, II they
were examiued 10 their belief, you would find had
some vague belief that at the war once e, or Horse
Guards there was shop kept open Tor the sale OF
military commissions, aud ANYBODY who had IN
colohecy Just as he would picture park. That
may show great Ignorance, but recoec although that
NAV be an unpleasant consideration 10 s useless TO IL
more the system under which We live. Recolect the
ultimate decision Of this question rests with persons or
NQl
alone in taking this view. Ihave watched as we have all
watched with great interest the proceedings on this sub
tect where, and confess have been very much
Sgtrnck with the fact that those who most strongly
onnosed the bill OF the Government refralned from
alternating any direct defense OF that system with
which Won are proposing TO do away. Cheers They
cnmnlaned of the incompeteness OF the measure, and
foniid fault with its details but do not think OBJ
scryed even among those Of whose genuine Conserva
live ling there could be doubt declaration that
thev Thought the Purchase System good one and that
they Intended 10 stand fall by it, and II the question
shold come before the country IN the shape OF ap
neal from the Government, wonder how many candi-
dates would permit the success OF the election
10 depend supon their adherence 10 the
Purchase system. II IL hardly necessary
10 20 into the abstract question because an In
stit,ition of which the public are determined, for
Whatever reason to get rid IL simply dead horse. The
animal may have every conceivable merit that horse
there is an end the matter aughterl IL that 10 TO
be the end Of it, what lie TO be gained by delaying the
scttcmenti If nothing worse happened still 70 large
number OF persons whose interests are concerned the
mere fuspense is exceedingly ineonvenient. Hear
hear No man the present time can sell his eoinms
sion because selling implies buyer>and apprehend
hat in the uncertainty winch actually exists you are
not likely 20 nnd any one who VIII bay.
PROHIBITION OF THE READING OF LIBERAL
JOURNALS BY THE POPE.
Ia the Italian papers of the 18th the letter
il pubshed In which the Pope prohibits the reading OF
,h..aI those uubifhed ROIne