The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-06-04

ARCHBIsHoP--There VIII DC masses offered up In
ali me question OF special service Is not settled.
REPoRrER-ls there any present hope your Grace
that the position in Rome Will be changed In man
ner satisfactory to the Pope and the CHURCH,
restored to his lndepenaence-noi, perhaps 10 all
Ms rned possessions but sufficient Tor the purposes
OF the holy See. may not live to see It. You are
young man aud you Will.
REPoErER-The present state OF affairs Is fraught
ARoaBl.HoP-They are. It Is an hour OF trial, but
we shall triumph.
REroETER.po you believe in the sincerity Of Vic.
tor Emmanuels professionals
ARoHKIsHoP--His professions are not worth any
thing. lie did not want to go to Rome; he was
him To Rome which forced Napoleon into war with
Germany.
RErORrER-The revolut,onistsg
AacHBIsH uP-The rostJp. They are the real rulers
OF Italy. Think you they have any idea OF letting
Victor Emmanuel rule themr NO; their design Is
GRAND AERIAL REPUBLIC
IN Italy, as their brethren attempted to build one on
REPoRrER-Thcy profess devotion to liberty
ARCHBls HoP-It Is the liberty to do just as they
please and that no one shall do ANYTHING outside OF
opinions.
AaoHBIsHop-They would wade in blood to ac-
complish their objects. Life is nothing to them and
they have nothing else TO lose. The fear OF God has
no place In their hearts, Tor they do not believe IN
Him or IN future state. AS Rochefort said the
other day, 'Ihe treasure OF the churches was given
i 70 man called G9a there y no such man. there
kEHoRTEE-Ihey believe priests to be their ene-
mics?
mics OF sucn beliefs as theirs, and, therefore their
enemies. That was never disguised, nor was their
sation with the fouliy murdered Archbishop Darboy
l"o was not IN aged man, as some papers state, he
being some three years younger than l. and do not
call myself od) his remarks were:-
II FORESEE REVOLUTION
brewing; what Ill 1t may betde know not; there
are certainly dark days before us.n so OF Pere OH
VAN, head OF the Jesuits III Paris, a most gentle
inonensve man. Such are the enemies OF the rouge
IL is terrible to think OF.
REroRTER-Do you think the like win be attempted
in ItaiyY
before one year, Victor Emmanuel VIM be chased
from his throne by the very party who caole him
with leadership which he does not exercise. He
deposed. Then Will come the great struggle,
TO END IN THEIR OVERTHROW.
for the recovery OF the patrimony OF ST. Pete
ARCHBisHoP-I cannot now indicate. The impi.
ous. impracncable schemes OF the goddess revou.
tlonsts must overreach themselves. / have met
Frenchnlen and Germans here who scoted at our
republic saving there Is no more liberty mere than
in Europe, certainly not IN their distorted sense
REPoaTER-Y0u feel certain that the Pope Will be
restored?
ARousIsHop-I do. There Is one fact, that
10 THRONE IN EUROPE is SAFE
without him. No Power, even so-callcd Protest
ant one, having Catholic subjects, can submit to
communicating with the head OF the Catholic Church
at the caprice or on the Jose dLt OF another Power
who can give or refuse admission to the Pope, who
outside OF all he other reasons from the point OF
Church discipline.
KEroRTER-Do you believe In the ability OF Victor
Emmanuel 10 Keep the supulatl0nS he has laid
down.
ARcHBIsHoP-I read the guarantees in the
HERALD a few days ago. In the first place he is
bankrupt and has violated his engagements with
the monasterles and converts r1ed and confiscated
by him. In all the converts were nuns who had
brolgnt their dowrles TO the institutions When
the converts were coniscated these nuns had every
civil claim to their money. lie engaged 10 pay
them stipend. He has not done ana most OF
them are starving. ills guarantees are not worth
anything: he cannot guarantee himself.
REPORTER you not think the defeat of the
reds France will brighten their brethren In Italy?
ARCHBisHoP-The end Is not yet. Their power
for harm Is not over.
REPoRTER-You 90 not believe in their success2
ARCHBIsHOP-NO. Yet whatever God has IN store
for His servants on earth shall satisfy then The
Church does not fear and, with the same serene
cheertulness the Holy Father, awaits His awards,
sure O. His ultimate victory.
The conversation drifted to diocesan matters
touching the new Cathedral. for which. during the
past few months, Sl50, 900 have been raised. The
work upon II Is proceeding rapidly. The workmen
are at present putting up the new marble columns
INSIDE the building. The worthy Archbishop pro-
fessed himself highly pleased with the generosity OF
his diocese the more that he SO well knew now
many other things were wanting besides q cathe.
dral.