The true northerner. [volume] (Paw Paw, Mich.) 1855-1920, 1871-12-15

Senator TrinIbuli the .fdm iafStrdi ion,
and the F'GssfUs Policy.
Special dispatch to the Louisville Courier
Journal.
WAsmNGroN, DEcEMpER 3, 1871.

have had detailed 10 me, by prou.i.
nent Southern politician, the particulars
of conversation, had within the laSt
day or two, with Senator Trumbull Of
Illinois Ny informant, who is himself
an ex. United States Senator, states thai
he met Judge Trumbull in the library
of Congress, and after exchanging
friendly salutations he asked the Seua.
tor whether he would consent to the Use
of his name as a conservative candidate
for the Presidency against Gen. Grant
The Illinois Statesman replied with
more than usual emphasis, "No sir,
would not"
"And why not:'
"For many reasons Judge Trum
bull said in substance; 'In the frss
place | am satisfied where | am. | con
slider a seat in the Senate of the United
States position in which | can be more
useful than any other and | believe /.
to be as honorable as 3ny under til
Government, if its duties be effic;entIs
and properly discharged. In the mex.
place | do not agree with the program
that has been marked out by those who
refuse to support the candidacy of ths
President for reelection. am COZ.
scious of the needs of many reforms, and
| am daily striving to accomplish theu-
But | do not believe that revelation
of parties would be salutary. | do not
believe either that the people of tn
North or South are ready to profit b.
such change
And why not?"
because the people of the South haze
really accepted nothiog, and are not
willing to cooperate with the liberals Of
the North in settling the practical rela.
tions of society on sure and generous
basis. | know that the South has much
to complain of. But so have the liberia
| Republicans 1t is not the rebel eLe.
mebt, perhaps, but the nature of things
that the South should not realize the
complete overthrow of the old order and
the necessity for complete change OF
the domestic policy. believe that the i
defeat of Gen. Grant would involve
reaction at the South, whose consequ.n.
ces would be even worse than the pres.
cut state of affairs
"Don't you think Gen. Grant med;
tates the permanent usurpation Of ;ha
Executive Office"
mo, | do not My opinion is tina;
Gen. Grant is, In the main, conservi-
tive man. He has made mistakes. But
| cannot say they justify his removal
What are your personal relations
Very friendly. | have opposed s2me
of his measures; but | have no personal
feeling agasnst him, and, indeed, thit
is one of the reasons why it is disagree.
able to have my name mentioned Il
the connection you name.
The Southern Democracy would So
port You with pleasure. .
You are mistaken The DemocracY
is yet too strong in numbers 70 disband.
for that is the moaning Of the passive
policy Three millions Of Democrats
voters cannot afford to sell themselves 20
100000 or 100000 Republican vo.sr,
and that for a mess Of pottage whica
the Republicans and not the Democrats
are to enjoy. | don't believe they vii
do it, | think the passive policy a
ready failure"
Like the new departure?
mo, not exactly. The new depart.
ure was a necessity, win or loose Had
the Democrats not adopted it, but in its
place had adopted the platform of 1868.
they would have been still more disas
trousy beaten. The new departure
made no recruits because the people did
not believe it honest. The Democrat;
party leaders did what they could 20
longer avoid-that is accept the amcni
ments--and the Republicans have TO
thank such writers as Mr.. Stephens and
Forsythc that the step in advance id
not make further inroads. by 1876 che
issues of the war, the amendments, ant
the ku Klux will be out of the way,
and there may be a new and complete
reorganization of parties. But nor
now
"What do you think of the ku kux:'
"They may be exaggerated But
there is enough of anpunished violence
in the South to justify the newspapers
in all the outcry they are making. | his
alone would beat the Democracy
"Then you think the fight next year
will be straight-out party AFFAIR."
II think it will be as far as the Re
publicans are concerned. The party il
not really divided. lis internal discus
sions merely exhibit the exersise Of indi
vidual free will and do it good aud not
harm. 1t will act as "A body and
Ihink will poll larger vote than it did
nIS6S, no matter what frame work or
what candidates are opposed to it. Tha
people believe in the Republican party
IN account of its liberal discussions.
am assured in saying that the opin.
ons of Senator Trumbull are also .h.
,ninions of Senator Sumner