New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1871-05-26

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petent make that motion, aS the evidence part
Of the report now under consideration.
nihi;shed in the nrcss aud as public document and
hence nc could see necessity Tor wearyng Senators
MI sImSER said the reading would delay action
the resolution having In view the Derauoh OF Wmts
and Rir.sdel, felow-citizens VINO ousn' " W
from custody.
THE REPORT LAID on THE TABLE
Mr.. TRUMBULL (Rep, ILL., moved 70 lay 'ne '.pO's "a
the table, his object being to turn MessrS' Inn, a
Kirbv over TO the Court under the law and discharge
Messrs White and Ramsde from custody that their case
Mr.. TrumSus motion to lay the report on the table
was 81 Mr. Wilson 10 discharge from custody
Messrs White and Ramsdell was then proceeded WILL
but subsequently withdrawn.
PROPOSITION TO DISCHARGE TIE NoUisirohs'
Mr. SHERMAN Gsep, Ohio offered substitute for the
resolution TO the effect that witnesses summoned peore
the Committee having refused to testify where the copy
of the treaty was obtained for publication and that no
proof appearing that any Senator or empoye OF inc
Senate was connected in any way with the puocaton
the Select Committee be discharged from a.
OF the subject and witnesses now In CUSTODY Do ui'
Mr. EDMUNDs Rep, VT argued that to pass s this
resolution would in the eyes Of the country De ooket
upon as confession the part OF the senate tna. ~
had abandoned this investigation because one oi us
members was guilty.
ANOTHER VERSION OF THE ORIGIN THE NQUIslTioN'
Mr. WILSON Rep Massl denied that the country
would put any such Interpretation on the passage Oh he
resolution. He did not believe that any citizen woo
think any Senator had dishonored himself During ms
remarks Mr. Wilson stated that the resolution to raise
the senator from New-York (Mr Conkling, introduced
by the Senator from Wisconsin tMr Carpenter, when
Mr. Carpenter called Mr. Wilson to order Tor HVmglng
what took place in Executive session, and Mr. Wilson
begged pardon for his forgefulness. $3.50. .,,....o
Mr. C0NKLING asked Mr.. Wilson to repeat this state
Mr.. WILSON repeated it, and said that he had IN
tended to add that the resolution received the unani
mons vote of the Senate and that every member OF the
Senate equally responsible for lt'
THE CHIEF NQUIsIToR DVULGNG SENATE SECRETS.
Mr. CONKLING, who was laboring under great exclte-
ment then took the floor He said the statement OF MI
Wilson whether so intended not, would convey the
impression that he (Conking) had stated moor
rectly position IN this matter The statement OF the
Senator bore strange .simitude to the corrupt bes
He would not suspect that this was the
second ofense of tho Senator; put, as th ~
Executive session, he ConEine now intended TO state
what did take place IN Executive session
trsmped under foot The matter was first brought TO
the attention of the Senate by the Senator rom Onlo
Relations was asked he intended to pass over sch
breach privileges of the Senate The senator from
from the ancient ways of the senate If 1t was
passed over. 1t was demanded o. tae commit
| into It. It was then alleged that that Gem
mittee overburdened with work Some Senators
yestgate. The Senator from Ohio ONT Thurman spoke
Of on Printing and On the ksVisn Oi tes
was suggested not by me me nor oE my TREND Dehlnd
@ snts but 1y % s Uy around snS l that
he tConklin) put on paper hastily resou-
aq s% tS
that he Conklng drew the resolution as an original mai
M hi ao Ssd
with Mr. Wilson. He thought his - smiabnity
f seR hardest sa to offend He did not
had made this statement with malice oos
of the body Of which he was member Had ne INT,
Conkng) been at hand to correct tho false
10 be drawn the Senator'S remarks what no had
said would have well helped the effort which
had been made to taat se2a @T.a
have gone into this Investigation with some ammus aud
and set np mark for our arrows unfavorabe
than this has never been made Out Of such
facts these have the EXTRAORDINARY Statements
which have been sent to all parts of the country.
THE NQUIsrIoN AN IDLE FARCE.
Mr. SHERMAN lep Ohio said that, after the reye-
latons which had been made, 1t was the merest idle
farce to hold in custody the two gentlemen who were
now imprisoned by order Of tho Senate Every man,
woman and child in this country would so regard If,
when Senators openly betraying the secrets OF
the Executive session. Notwithstanding the rule pre-.
scribes expulsion for such violation He hsd called
do again What he did and every member OF the
should be made II any Senator officer OF the Sen
ate was concerned in 1t, that he should be punished
ned Senators in their remarks because the injunction OF
had been removed as to the proceedings III this
'A Mr. SUMNER and Mr. THURMAN-Not from the de-
bate , -, a.. NJ. 4.
was discovered that Senator empoye OF the Senate
implicated In the pubcatlon tnat the vestgation
should then have STOPPED Hs sa T e bad no 40
right 10 indio accuse or arragn any ezen' ana ana
NOT obtained t. Treaty any senator the proceed
ngs should been stopped. If he had been present
%sa e k ySe & ia custody for an hour The
had placed itself in false position 1t had no right 10
90 beyond inquiry into the conduct OF It's own mem
hers and officers. It had power 10 keep these men
Imprisoned day after the end or this session Any
Justice of the Peace would ride rouShshod over such
'I Mr.. EDMUNDs Rep VT asked Mr. Sherman if the
Uonse of Representatives had not imprisoned Pat.
Woods three months after 1T had adjourned and IL
Mr. SHERMAN replied that the imprisonment of Pat
Woods was clearly Illegal, and that his constitutional
rights grossly asaed There was no precedent Tor
Mr sUMNER-There is no parliamentary precedent
AM Mr THURMAN (De Ohio said in reference to the
Investigations that Senator was more responsible
Mr. SIMMER said that what he had said I'm Executive
session was that the inquiry should be Instituted or the
rule given up laying his emphasis very positively on the
Mr.. THURMAN argued that the Select Committee did
not transcend the power Entrusted 10 thein' ana ne
trusted Senator would accuse them Oh 81 Migrant
Mr.. WILSON rep, Mass made brief reply to Mr.:
Conkng saying he thought that the senator meant TO
do right but he COnkling had strong Will firm pur-
pose and full power OF expression ana ght
give oeuse; but he mr. Wilson, wished to say IN regard
10 this matter that he held himself just responsible for
the Inauguration OF this Investigation as the Senator
who drew and the Senator who offered the resolution
but when tie investigation had gone so far as TO relieve
Senators from suspicion, he wanted II TO stop.
A SENATORIAL LovEFEAsr.
Mr. STEWART (Rep., New said this appeared to be
the hour for confession He did not believe any Senator
was guilty wrong in voting for an investigation or
any OF it's logical consequences.
Mr.. FRELINGHUYsEN Qsep. n j. said he had acted
with the Senate Committee from the beginning TO tho
end and was DESTROYS of taking his full share OF the
snnnshilitY He gave his views the subject remark