The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-08-28
THE QUESTIONING OF BzLLgcRAY.
Jourde's Declaration That He Could Have Ead
Five Thousand gAassepsts from Prussia.
CEEgaAL CsAGZYS TESTIMONY.
How the Ba.gk of France Was Man
aged Under the Commune.
PARIS. August II. 1871.

general remark On the lrsJ day OF trial they ap-
peared healthy and IN good spirits. now, on the con-
uary, halgard looks give sign OF the mental anguish
they endure, spite or occasional Dursrs OF bra
waldo. Already does tAe sentence of death or hard
LABOR Tor lie ring in their look wheTo they VIII
In the court they discover sign OF com.
miserauon The evident desire OF the excited crowd
is that 1ley SHAH be eNtcrminated. urDain Is OF
stanted growth, insignificant, repUlsve and ferret
ike III appearance but possessed OF personal vanity
Ike his comrades. Prior 10 the 18th OF March lie
was but little Known capt In the Rue Verneun,
where he kept school HIS tuition was, however,
so interspersed with republican principles OF the
blood-red type that parents withdrew their chil-
dren He was but ntue more successful As a peaa-
gogue than he has SINCE been as a revolutionary
chief. Loss OF pupils is SAID TO have made him
Communist Now that he is OF trial for life he
assumes an air or as.onshment. The FIRST witness
OF a sensational character Madame Leroy,
URBAINs MISTRESS.
the young Idly who on the FIRST day OF trial
was seated among The prisoner witnesses. she de-
scribed herself AleXandrine Leroy. without par
ticular profession. The interest OF the audience
when she entered the court was heiEhtened by the
reply OF Inc previous wltness-a outsh boy--to the
President. MADAME Leroy" Eyes. She had In
nuence over Urban-it you hAe-Ton know, Colo
nel--tbe sOTi OF influence women have over their
loyers.n 30 are precocious In Paris. MsXandrine
Leroy enters ana The 1rst in caused by her
appearance Is one OF ast0nishment that such
woman can be Tho mistress OF such o wretchei
creature as he WHO Is now trial. she is pretty
slight fair with blue eyes and well cut features.
The manner which she gives her evidence Is also
most remarkable. she speaks without hesitation
ambiguity but with conciseness and arm ness.
She differs occasionally from the opinion Of
the Court but she does without pretension She
u evidently woman conscious OF her own power
How sad IL is that she has not eXerc sed her un-
doubted Influence for cause less criminal than that
OF the Commune She had lived, she said, In the
Marie OF the seventh reimbursement; when the
cartridge manutactoryin the Avenue Kapp blew up
she, her lover, Urbain, and the COME de Montout
organized assistance for the wounded a corporal
denounced an Individual a. having relations with
Versailles NJ. De Montout gave an order for his
arrest; NJ. Landau and his VIE were'brought The
Marie. she Mime. Leroy acted as gregaer;
watch, sixty francs in money ana a palelIr-every.
body in Paris from an empress to a ragpicker has
pdle0-were taken IRON A. Landau an seat 10 the
Prefecture OF Ponce; she had said II the Com
mune did not triumph they would not leave one
stone upon another; such an expression would be
unseemly from the mouth OF a woman: Monsieur de
Montout was presented 10 us by the Secretary
General about the eud OF April. stated Nine.
Leroy sad;-i mlstrusted him; there was tue stun
IN him OF which Traitors are made; too late DIS
covered that he BETRAYED US. When the Versafllas
entered Paris ! remained at the Marie 10 place In
safety certain papers; NJ. dc Aontou took me 10 MS
house in me Rue he Trevise; 81. UrDaln came there
Oh SATURDAY; d. de h0ntoat made him change mis-
Uniform Tor ''mufti:n Ur0an gave him his scarf as a
souvenir. Two or three days later NJ. De Gontout
seat him 70 the house Of one Of his friends where he
wa. arrested. went TO the Marie az the risk of
beng myself arrested, To release UrDaln wish a line
rom ID. de AoItoVL VINO declared that the man
called Rigade had not taken part Ia the insuTrec-
ton. We took refuge in the Rue lie Commines
where we were arrested together. M. dc MOntout
then gave no sgns OF assistance, Notwithstanding
that URBAN ual TWO or three times we'd hlS -
Al &c dontout had proposed 10 Urualn system OF
defence oy blowing up the dralns lie always sala
Go alead. don't fear have rom
Andre, or n .1 IuIaNs E4 s x 7Gs gEgAN
UrLaiI was forced 10 make his horrible proposition
respecting The hostages by AZ. DC Montout. me
evidence agansI N. de MontouL BY asking whether
NJ. dc MontoGt or Urbain beng tried. Tue Com
mlssare happorteur, Intimately acquainted es he
must be with tie facts OF the case, though many OF
them may never be publicly known, Is soldier not
q LAWYER, aud evidently man Of great ability, but,
unfortunately, shows TOO much teeung. ! may say
GIiinosHy, against me accused. Madame Leroy
after giving her evidence renred 10 her present pri.
sou with al toe grace OF thoroughbred lady, taxing
the hearts OF ali Win her. Her evidences made a
marked sensation. me charm OF her appearance
and manner was the theme OF general conversation.
N. BARKAL De MONTOUr
was called. lie declared tDat Urban had saved his
b;e on several OCCASIONS: he had, therefore, great
difficulty in giving evidence against hiR. lie per-
suaned Urban When the Nerssilais entered Paris
10 80 20 the Commune and tel his colleagues that
al was lost. He then sheltered Urban in his house
thus keeping from the Commune one OF It's most
>. n
played the part Of colonel Of the National Guard,
70 NJ Ihers was Iead proving tnat Madame Leroy
Is az keen eyed as pretty He In the service OF
the government OF Versailles, ana worked nard 70
counteract the proceedings OF tho Commune. lie
Daq desired thdt Ur0din should be Minister Of War
IN order the more easily 10 carry Out his plan.
Urban had proposed
having heard OF the killing Of "a p0rieDleatdire by
the Nefsalliais. Urbain bad always been opposed
70 lncendlarisin. Doctor parisel member OF the
Sommo1e' was the author OF mat plan OF de-
stucuon. The witness then showed how near
We nave been TO trip heayenwards by
descEblpg the electric wires which had
been placed IA The drains for the purpose Of blowing
up different quarters OF the town, but CTbaln was
not acquainted with he plan. lie Pere Leiel.ler
knew Urban IN 1906, ia small parish OF Oavados,
where he was tuior, respected by AZ. The witness
was surprised 10 ani Urban a member Of the Com
muDe. lie could account for u only through his
weakness aud absence VI religious sentiment. Ur.
balm, WHO proposed 20 Kill the hostages, actually
calico priest to give HIM character. when Ur.
balm was arrested. on the lOth OF june he said 10 the
agents:--"Yoa are victorious II Is well; hut tie fu
VIII declde.n 10 ms son he said ',Do DOT for
get thtsn UTban anIrIBs that he said TO has son
..sytlrieyas ,o Is ce snonlenty'f lie did he same
when his wife died, ara bis son was tnen but pye
years OF age "a ne ~ OF opinion mat children should
remember tue acts OF tner parents.
Al the CONCLUSION OF the evidence OF this witness
the
QUESTIONING OF BILLroRAy
was commenced. Externally there Is nothing 10 in
olSaie the violent passions and complete absence Of
moral sentiments, or which his conduct has gwen
proof he IS without any convictions or principles.
A. member OF the Connie Central ne was proposed
ana elected member OF the Commune; as MEMBER OF
tDe NOuihAuc no ueni6nueu the lOrInalOn OF t1e
Conite de Sai1t Public, OF which he became mem
ber and lac then insisted on the execution OF the
law against the hostages. lie was born al Naples,
Of French parents by profession he Il an artist but
his talent as painter is Of low oroer. He speaks
well and gently, IA tenor voice. Indeed there ls
nothing about him externally 10 warn Strangers
against hidden serpent. He evidently attempts, by
Boltness OF manner, 10 ingraIiate himself with ms
Judges. lie decla cd that DO
DID NOT HEAR or THE ASSASSINATION
Of Generals Clement Thomas ana lecomte until
long after The event. lie had been "A member OF the
Committee Of Public SAFETY; he had been opposed
10 the demolition OF the column In the Place Ven
q 1me, he nad opposed the decree against the hos
tspes bat the decree was never execnted Tor those
VITO were uusssacred were not hostages, and III Tue