The New York herald., 1871-12-16
COUN TERFEITING G..
Trial OF Miner, the Alleged
COUnterfciter.
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Testimony Of Colonel Whitley, Chief Of the &c.
cret Service Department.

The trial OF Joshua D. Miner, for alleged counter
feting, was resumed yesterday IN The United States
Circuit Court before Judge Benedict. Public In
terest In the case very much the increase. The
court room was thronged during the whole day.
Mr.. Pierrepont, Mr.. Purdy and Mr.. De Kay con-
Quoted the prosecution on behalf of the government
anu the defendant, Miner, was represented by his
counsel, Mr. Fullerton ana MI. Benjamin X. Phelps.
TESTIMONY HIRAM g. WHITLEY, CHIEF OF THE
SECRET SERVICE DIVISION.
Colonel Hiram G. Whitley sworn. He said:-I am
Chief OF the Secret Service Department OF the United
! States Treasury; have branch Offices IN all large
ciIes have branch onice IN New York. at No. 50
Beecker street; we do more business IN New York
than in other cities; was appointed Chief OF the
Secret Service Department. think, on the 18th or
May, 1860; In 1867 IN the Revenue Service. in
position Of the same nature; / am familiar with
counterfeit money.
The alleged counterfeit plates were here handed
10 the witness lie said:--I have seen the face OF
the SO plate before.
Q. NOW lind the back OF It. A. Yes.
@. What do they maker A. They complete the
back Of the $40 plate; these require the government
seal, the signature and the number; the signature
all national counterfeit notes that have seen Is
written; there are seals here, but am not certain
they the seals saw in the packages those three
plates form the $40 counterfeit plate one being the
plate for the vignette on the centre OF the back.
Q. Now take one OF those counterfeit $40 bills.
A. have one, sir; this bill Is marked "W. w. Ken
noch, October 17;r this pnl Is counterfeit; have
examined the plates carefully hereloore the plates
are counterfeit, the bills counterfeit; In
legal tender notes signature Is engraved and in
genuine national currency the signature is written;
know the genuine $40 note OF which this $40 plate
IS counterfeit; this $40 counterfeit note is fair
imitation OF the genuine one. and would. ! think,
n
them.
Q. Now, is there $40 bill In that package
A. Yes.
@. state exactly ali you know about that package
OF SIS, ,O5o counterfeit money. A. Kennoch brought
q large package OF counterfeit money TO the oilce
ON the 18th October paper handed to witnessD;
this is q portion OF the paper that was around
the parcel; l told kennocn, according TO the
usual custom, 10 marx several OF the bills; he
dld so, and put date on them; when the
and a $40 counterfeit Dll; the $40 was on n
Merchants National Bank and the So was on the
age put up and placed IN my safe; the package
taken out ana brought down here in valise by Mr..
Chester; some OF the notes are marked by kennoch;
l examined the package when IT was brought 10
me ana saw no $40 or & s. PIN n u but wnat have
z. Are you able to tell from what plate that $50
noie Gamer
evidence that would convict any man that the SO
counterfeit bill was found III the package.
counterfeit $40 plate.
O. lake the 81 plate that Is wrapped In the green
cloth. A. Yes lhave the 81 note before me.
q. State the relation OF The note TO the plate. A.
The note Is an Impression rom the plate.
o. VIII you state what you know or that $50 plate
in connection with tue defendant Minerr
Obecred TO by Mr.. Fullerton. as forming no part
or the indictment. The question Was allowed by
Witness said-on the 25th OF August. 1870 had
Bill Gurney under arrest N my once; he Is noto.
counterfeiter: went with Gurney IN q car
riage TO see Mr. Miner; left the carriage the Bou
leyard, and walked toward Mr.. Miners stable; Al
pegate came with US, or followed as; as we got up
near the staOe we saw Miner come up; he said 10
Gurney, "llow are you, Ola Stick the
aS Miner Se sss IN me one 81 Miner
he could DO nothing for him; took Miner
aside and told him | mad satisfactory Information
that no had those $40 plates. that Gurney
on him; Miner denied tbat he had the plates, but
insisted that he had; nnaily he said, I guarantee
aid not want his name mixed up In the papers with
Quincy, as he supposed Jncre would be big long
article about 1t IN the papers; said would not
put MS name IN the papers with Gurney; Miner ap-
pointed me etlng with me IN the lower part OF the
Astor House; went there at the appointed time;
this was lew days after nc nad told me ne would
surrender the plates; met Miner tnerc he said the
mater was all right; that should have these plates
In few days. he told me to come 10 his house;
that he had got 70 sec other parties; some ten OF
came TO the door and took me In; talked 10
him for O considerable ume about counterfeitiug
business; he said he was not quite ready TO give up
the plates, as ne had 10 20 to the races: told hin
hoped he would gvo up this counterfeiting busi-
ness, as only injured the poor and moi the govern
mcnt; he rose MS hands and SAID, 81 give you nv
worl Will nave not ing more TO do with counter
feitlnG business so help me God;n told him that
GurLey was bad man, and mat dld not want
to use bin as witness against iilm; that Gurney
had of1cred 10 me TO buy countcrlein2 money OF
him, Miner; Miner said. suppose ! TOOK
Gurncy into my buggy. with last morse