The States and Union. [volume] (Ashland, Ohio) 1868-1872, 1871-08-23


unwilling to bring up dead issues as
any party can be; and if they but
nominate some man whose nomination
will create an enthusiasm, they will
carry the country in spite of all op-
position.
Sun Reporter-Governor, you al
luded to the fact that General Grant
was turning heaven and earth in or
der to be reno minated; that does not
tally with an article that appeared in
the Cincinnati Times, giving an inter-
view with General Dent, wherein the.
General declares that Grant will not
lift his hand one way or the other to
oh ain Fhe nomination.
Governor-It is all very well for
Dent to say SO, sir. Grant may not
turn his hand one way or the other,
but let any officeholder dare to ex-
press sentiments adverse to his re-
election, and th"n see how quick Mr..
Grant will chop his head off and get
him removed from Office.
GRATz BROWN ON GRANT AND FEN
TON.
Sun Reporter What is your opin.
ion, sir, in reference to the Grant
Fenton squabble? Do you think it
will ever lie healed up?
Governor-No, Sir; ] am certain
that it will not. There is matter of
principle involved in that quarrel that
a gift of all the Offices under the adj
ministration can not wipe out. While
Senator from Missouri, several years
ago, roomed with Senator Fenton:
and 1 am sufficiently well acquainted
with the man to state that when once
offended he is not easily reconciled,
and he knows full well when an insult
or rebuff is intended, and although
Glow to take offense, he nevertheless
knows the exact time when patience
ceases to be a virtue. am also. well
with Conkling, and you
may depend upon it, sir, that his ad-
herence to President Grant is not on
account of any great love for the man,
but more with an eye to the spoils. :
Sun Reporter-Well. Governor, I
would Ike to ask if you have formed
any opinion yet as to who will be the
standard bearer of the Democracy in
1872?
Governor-No, sir, I have not
You must remember, sir, that we have
another session of Congress yet to go
through; and there is no knowing but
that some man, obscure as yet, and
whose talents have not been sufficient
ly appi eciated, may appear in dhe no,
rizon in the same manner that Lincoln
did in 1860.
Sun Reporter-What is your opin--
ion of Chief Justice Chase as a can
didate?
Governor-Well, sir, I think Mr..
Chase is a very conscientious man.,
and an able man; but then, sir, his
health is not good and that would 60
very much against him. He was my
choice in 1868; and I feel confident
that il he had been nominated then,'
he would have been elected.
GRATz BROWN ON HENDRICKS AND
HANCOCK.
Snn Reporter-Well, Cove rnor,
how about Senator Hendricks, of In
diana? His health is good
Governor--Yes, sir, MIR. Hendricks
sa far as his health is concerned, is
very available candidate; but could,
Mr.. Hendricks carry the country for
the Democratic partyy That is the
question to be looked at. A popular
man is needed. Mr.. Hendricks war
record is certainly an excellent one,
and reflects great credit upon him.
Sun Reporter-How about Han.
cock-what do you think OF him?
Governor-Now, sir, you have hit
the main, spring. Hancock has GER
tainly proved himself valiant soldier.
and Us a General is a great success;
but, sir, you must at once see the
FOO hardness of nominating q military
man. The great existing trouble just
now is the superabundance of West
Point rel tape that we find in the sew.
eral governmental departments. If a
military man is nominated and elected,
you will find the same state of affairs,
40 matter to what party he belongs.
General Hancock moreover, is too
ultra in his views, and on that account
you would find that thousands of Re-.
publican voters who would willing ly.
,ast their ballot for conservative man
If the Democratic party, would not be
Wiling to vote for Hancock. No, sir;
tell you we want statesm en-. We
rave had one military autocrat; that
) enough for q century to come.
At this moment friend of Cover.
lor entered and 1 withdrew, M.