The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1871-06-14
A. RAMPANT OLD REBEL.
Il TRIBUNE MANS Talk WITH BOB
TO0MBS, OF GEORGIA.
He is still a Bitter Observation-Disclosures
digham and the New Departure Re
earded with ContemPt-What he
Think of Immigration from the
North-He Expects TO Live to see the
South Independent.
Correspondence New York Trioune.]
W. Ga. ,June Z

States, and eX-general in the rebel army, is
looked upon as the leader of that portion OF
the Democratic party in Georgia that has &C
cepted some Of the results Of the war; the
leader of those who carefully keep alive all
the animosities OF the struggle and sedulously
teach bitter and rebellieus sentiments to their
children. General Toombs, occasionally de-
nvers a lecture that he has prepared upon
Magma Charta, which ia In reality a violent
stump-speech in favor of the right of seces-
sion, and against the constitutional amend
ments and the reconstruction laws. This is
the way he concludes his lecture, as described
by an Augusta paper: with his body bent
slightly forward, his eye baazinS, his hand
raised alpft, grasping.a copy OF Magma Charta,
he exclaimed, when you can tear the 1--we
thunder from its home in the burning ether,
and bind it at the foot-stool CT tyranny, then,
and not TILL then, Will acceptthe situation"
Thought it was worth making a; special
tourney to see the man who could talk like
this six years after the end of the war. was
curious 10 know what object Ire had In trying
to revive the fast-dying spirit of rebellion, and
whether he still expected, as Of old, toone
day call the roH Of his slaves at the foot of
Bunker Hill Monument. To reach this place
one comes out on the Georgia Railroad three
uOulo LloFSi " ANSNShA NANN
three hours more at q way station, taxes a
train on q branch road that runs twenty miles
north from Washington. The conductor OF the
train on this branch road appeared to be also
mail agent, baggage-master and brakeman,
and, besides. these various official functions,
he informed me that he made a practice OF
taking in strangers at a moderate price. Hay
ing arrived at The depot, like all Southern
railway stations o6orous OF guano, and cross
ed The public square, the conductor Pointed
out q sfalwart man with Q very large head, IN
forming me that 1t Was General T0ombs. Al
ter / had Invested myself OF travelling gear,
in the little one story cottage OF my host, / went
back and Introduced myself to the general.
He shook hands With me and said, We'll, you
have come ID the headquarters OF the Ku-
Klux Let me make you acquainted with the
Grand Cyclops," presenting rue to a pleas
ing q .German ~physiognomy. cI2relnark-
= appearances, indicated that he, was ahe
i; chief OF, tie Klan- ZOE, hers "a mild Altman
nefed man as ever scutsled ship or cut a
this town To Ku.klux headquarters. I carried
this county for Secession: 10 1851 with only
seven votes against me, and now there Isn't q
single white Radical living In this county.
We've. no use for them here" The general
said that II / would walk across the square to
his office he5Vouhl itin.m e. sOen.F l found In
LOo OmCS. UtllcIdl .Du oOSCs mCAioCk VI W
gress from thiSdistrict, and son-ta.iaw ofpen.
Toombs. He told me how, through the attivi-
.ty of the white people, and The smoral inf1u-
ence" they brought to bear, nearly allthe ne
groes in the county had been Induced TO vote
for him at the late election. He was quite
positive that there had been no Multiplication
or threats of discharge from employment used
10 make the negroes desert the Republican
party. He said Tie Radical Legislature had
changed the election law and provided that ali
tile voting in each county should be done at
Lne county seat and that the electlon sp9uio
last three days; the idea being that If thetne-
groes were alt collected togetbe. they would
be led.b a. few ,.'smart niggerss living in The
country towns, and would vote solid for the
Radical ticket, out the scheme did not work.
In a few minutes General Toombs came In,
and soon commenced 10 talk politics. l told
him that he was understood TO represent tne
most ultra wing OF the Democratic party 10
Georgia, and That / was DESTROYS of learning
his views upon political questions. Eyes" he
said, $ lam one otthe red-hot kind" What do
you.think OF the new departaeeot the North
ern Democracy, as expGnp%Ssd oy vall snaii
You support IL? Never. l would sooner
vote for Horace Greeley than for any Demo
graf upon such o platform Greeley and the
Republicans first got 1t up; It's their patent,
and / have more respect Tor them than Tor
such %scoundrels as Vallandigham, who wants
to. areal their ideas" Mt. 1oombs spoke al
some length in this style, declaring finally that
the people OF the South could never be
brought 10 accept the constitutional amend
ments as tnalities. and that ii the Democratic
party took that ground they would have moth
inc 10 do with thai party. "What do you look
forward to in the future 2n I asked; ''how can
you escape the results Of The war ?" W will
firht YOU again just as soon as We can get
ready" he answered; land I believe we can
get ready much sooner than most people
Think "You cannot seriously believe
that the South will attempt a1o!hi
believe that l shall live to see Southern indie
pendence. Many Of our people are losing the
none that they Will. see Shiloh In their day,
but they are training their Children up to take
UP the work" General TGotnbs talked in the
most Bitter way against the Republican party,
robbers and prison conyicls: There 10 not an
honest man In che Radical party in Georgla,n
he said. He accused The Northern Republicans
OF sendlbg the worst kind OF" rascals to
plumber and Cypress the South. He maintain
ed that this class of men were purposely Sc
lected 70 abuse and impovertsh the Southern
people. He would not admit That the Repuo-
ticans party as o national Organization had any
honesty or patriotism, and the hard names he
called #, and the 'sihs with which ne charged
it, would Eli q column. / asked If he thought
any considerable nuRiDer Of men IN Georgia
A0reeQ Will Ullu III uCStluS olSaCWQA VI thS
war. and 10 still hoping for Southern indepen-
dence. !'tTwo7lhirds Of all lhe white men in
this Slate and IN all the South are. of this way
of thinking,n he replied; land If youw1lkgo
into the country among the planters. you Will
fnd what / say is true. In the large towns the
editors and business men talk differently but
they know nothing of the sentiments Of the
people" ~
Later in the conversation General Toombs
smoke of the civilization Of the South IS NOM
pared with that Of the North and Of Europe.
BE had travelled, he said, over much OF The
world, and had seen no higher civilization
thar that of Virginia and Georgia: The civil
lization OF the North was far below lt. he
thought the agricultural population OF New
England the poorest class OF people ne mao
ever seen I replied that the AGRICULTURAL
people OF Georgia and South Carolina were the
poorest people l had ever seen, and thereupon
q discussion arose as TO what constituted q
high degree OF civilization. the general de-
claring that it did not consist In packing peo-
pie together as thick as hogs in a pen, which,
he said, was the Northern idea. He tnought
q th:nly settled country. where people mad
room enough and did not interfere with eaeh
other, and where the laboring class was own
ed or controlled by the land-hoiders, was the
highest type OF modern civiiiz ltion. | chang
ed the subject, and asked IL hi thought immi-
grafton desirable for the South mo" he re-
plied, 'we don't want Northern men 10 come
here: let them stay"at home where they belong.
This Is our country, and we want TO Keep II