The New York herald., 1871-07-11
NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY. JULY IL l8-TRIPLE SHEET.

was possible 10 any but regular members. In the
neighborhood OF the 'odge" an immense number OF
persons congregated and remained during and until
the termination OF tne proceedings. or course the
conversation was on the ai-absorDing topic OF the
week. and the majority OF those who took part In It
seemed TO envy the favored members who were ad-
mltted TO take part In the deliberations OF the meet
ing. The latter numbered about two hundred men,
all OF whom looked sober and determined. and were
generally weli-dressed laborers ana mechanics.
Though the proceedings were secret 1t was easy
enough to learn the purpOrt OF what uansplred.
The general body had evidently determined upon
the course to be pursued with reference to the
Orange demonstration tomorrow, ana the meet
ings OF the subordinate societies last evening
were called for the purpose Of carrying out the
"duties devolving upon each branch OF the order.
Near the close Of the proceedings leading member
OF the Brooklyn Hibernians emerged from the hall,
and was promptly captured by HERALD reporter,
when the following conversation ensued:-
REPoRTER-S0 you are determined to interfere
with the Orangemen II they march on Wednesday, ?
Observation-Disclosures Well, l guess they'll be
interfered with by some one.
REPORrER-well. but you know that when you
march on st. Patrick's Day the Orangemen don't
interfere with you. Why, then, should you annoy
themP
HIBERNIAN-The cases are entirely different sir.
st. Patrick's Day celebration is national AFFAIR,
which all Irishmen join 10 celebrating. In Ireland
even the English officials join IN doing honor to the
national holiday. The British troops on that day
military displays II 10 the Castle yard. The Lord
Lieutenant ana all the members OF the English gov
ernnent in Ireland wear the shamrock and 60 on o
SPREE and in the evening the bali at Dublin Castle
oushlnes that takes place In Ireland during
snoudD be comosred at all to this Orange Sasness
REPoRrER-But the American people do contrast
them for all tnat and they think that the expected
rel over an event that took place 2J0 years ago.
HlBERNIAN-That's where the Americans are
wrong, sir. We don't care - about Shamus a. or
King BILLY. We only remember what those orange.
men used to do to US when they outnumbered In the
North OF Ireland, and we know that they only want
TO get the American Know Noihngs to join them In
committing the same outrages upon us here, and
before they get strong enough 10 be as bad as they
REPORTER-I suppose that you are aware that
Archbishop McCloskey and all the Catholic clergy
take strong ground against your molesting the
Orange procession?
that the Archbishop nor his priests never suffered
as we did in tins business. They know nothing
Protestant schools and church societies march
by our doors every day celebrating some an.
with them we'd be Just the very first to
come out and protect them. If the Orange societies
to Of ese but they're e only an
English faction, and our duty as American citizens,
10 say nothing OF our rec0llectOnS as HtShlnen
ought to make Us put them down.
RErOKTER-Are not the Orangemen citZens2
HIBERNIAN-N0, Sir; they are not and they
have right to march as well as we have remem-
Der the time when they wOuldnt say that. when we
went-lo0k a. that bullet hole In my neck-when we
went TO fight for the country, and when those
Orangemen used to to the British Consul save
themselves from the draft. The Orangemen Of
Upper Canada are coming here TO march In New
York next Wednesday. May be when America
wants soldiers again the Canadian Orangemen will
come here to fight for her.
REPORTER-It Is pretty clear, at all events that
you Will oppose the Orangemen, even against the
counsel OF your clergy
= HIBERNIAN--Well, sir, the fact is, King william
himself came into Ireland with The POpe's commits
sion In his pocket TO Overrun the country and annex
1t to the crown OF England The clergy are talking
OF what they don't know anything about and II the
Pope OF Rome and all the priests earth came here
to back up the Urangemen We wouldn't stop from
doing what We mean to do. II the American people
turn against us, why let them. The day Will come,
perhaps, when they VIII be glad TO turn back to US,
and be willing to acknowledge that we are the real
friends OF republican freedom. At ell events those
Orangemen mustn't march here. Wen prevent 1t |
OF any cost for We are determined to have no
Protestant they like, and II any one interferes
with their religion let them call on us for help II
they want It; but Orangemen are very different from
PrOtestants
REPoKTER-Thank you, sir. It Is but just to tell
you now that am reporter and mean to publlsh
all you have said.
HIBERNIAN-Well, all right. don't care But,
lock here, my good man, II you write nytnng that
did not say, I'll meet you for it