The New York herald., 1871-11-23
ERMANY.

Ministers, and TO their speeches.
GERMANY.
The wnr Reserve Fund-C ontinuation or tho
Debate in Tho Ecichsrath-iiem mal iIabIe
Speech of Friuce Eismarls.
BERLIN, Nov. Q, 1871.
On ihe ith the bin which proposes 10 establish
reserve fund military purposes OF $50, 100000
came up pe ore the fun house from the budget Com
mtlsee. Deputy Won Hoverneck proposed In the full
house the amendment he had already brought for.
ward IN the committee. The effect OF this amend
aent was that the Emperor should be allowed 10
make use OF the reserve fund before receiving the
consent OF the Relchstag only OF defensive
war while the law proposed that the Emperor
should have this disposing power In all cases.
.apeakng On this nm endmcnt
PRINCE BISMARCK SAID
Icannot regard 1t as my duty to enter upon dis.
sussion Of arguments which, In my OPINION
are the result OF political attitude, the
aims and asperatons Of which do not corre-
spond with those with VIII hch am entrusled-a no.
xscal attitude which does not. to my mind set be-
fore Itself the task which ], and may also add.
which many among u.s. set before us-namely the
consolidation OF the German empire and the main
tenance OF lis security. [lt should be explained
mat the herman Chancellor had been preceded by
An ultramonlane and particularist speaker. As
Ais opening words Bismarck thus implies that
neither Of the two VINO had proceeded him
we're friendly TO the German empire, which,
sn the whole, B convenient way Of
getting out or the arguments they advanced.l
ttherefore address myself only to some arguments
xtich Deputy Won Hoverbeck has brought forward.
and pass over whatever else we have heard in ST.
s1ce. With regard to the utility in general OF o re-
serve flni do nor consider 1t my duty to speak
me far
had rot had reserve fund-my colleague the Minis
YER for Finance, has already pointed this out IN
previous stting-we would positively not have been
n position to gain the two days which suficed to
Ireeci me wnoie left bank OF The RHINE, The Bava-
HAn we'll as the prussian pert, from the French
army. II we nad not had the reserve fnnd
THEN THE WAR WOULD HAVE BEGUN on THE RHINE,
We would have aad 10 issue ieem te Rhine fortreses
anu woaid have mad 10 take back from the French
the leii bank OF the Ehine. when river possibly they
would have crossed. perhaps as Tar as trankior,
and tnis We would have TO do after they had mad
hme to encamp there their Turcos and other ra6ble
Deputy Won HoveroecK has puG the question. '.What
would be the consequence II The Rrichslaa should
B;seTTards refuse s sanciIonP' 40 not and cam
sot beieve mat war could De declared and Car.
ned ol. IN which, after the reserve fund had
Been spent Ia mere mobilization, the means
oPsing Nancy were TSs rSsea the sv enc
Reichstag. DO not believe mat war could be car.
fied on II the Rcichsta2 refused the moneys which
are necessary carry IL on. This same KeIchs ag,
which would refuse its subsequent approval TO the
sxpendture OF tae reserve .und, would also refuse
i
have never heard statement here which lent an
appearance oi Justification 10 the lear of The Deputy
snas ine confederated governments believed the M
AUTH oRrzED TO BURDEN THE EMPIRE WITH LOANS,
WITHOUT OUT THE ArrRoyAt , OF THE RElSasTAs.
de question not TO be practical. IL seems to be
aouqht that demonstration in the shape
o. moaii is Intended The reserve fund
might perhaps suffice for this parpose
Tor one occasion. hut think mobilization Tor tue
freased In value for the last ten years. People no
longer mobilize. unless they have the political
sictlon that they must strike In earnest. Deputy
Yea Hoyerbeek has also complained OF this, that
the Reichstag Is no longer on par With the
pundesratn reference to the declaration OF war;
have not apprehended that the strong
SECURITY FOR TIE rEAcEABLENEss OF THE GERMAN
lies in the fact that the Emperor can only make
q dec laration OF war, without asking any one,
N he case o. an alacS on the territory or coasts Of
beng requisite In OTTER cases did not think that
this security would be used as an argument against
rs, In The SUpDosition That declaration OF war
coui he MADE IN spirit OF levity A security lies
N the agrcemcnto OF the Bundesrath, winch, by the
the BundesraIh docs not correspond with the jurs-
eiction when Deputy Won Hoveroeck claims Tor the
Reichstag. The preparations for war, deemed
necessary by the Emperor, lnese the Bundles
ram rssn Ganaot cana prevent. real declaration OF
alone what IL can prevent. much more extern
xve prcrogatye would. Therefore, GAINED for
Tue keiclistag n the expenditure or the reserve
fund for mobilization could be prevented by IT.
Further, tins must DC taken INTO consideration that
the Bundesrath .he necessity OF q declaration OF war
can lie discussed without going beyond govern.
silent, and hearers, VINO have not an interest In
Deing sllenl, are not allowed he present. Iuls
n very important difference. believe you would
not long endure the existence. believe tae Deputy
himself. WHO has ma Ae this proposal, II he had tho
power IN his hands. would not long endure the ex-
lstence oi a government which allowed a deciara-
sion o war 10 oe publicly discussed, and you would
believe consider such publicity TO DO attended
ans TAoT,cs OF FREDERICK THE GREAT
The Deputy next cast doubt upon the theory that
war OF attack could possibly be made
IN the interest OF self-deence. believe
that such line OF defence by brisk
usei aud In the majority OF cases the most elective
AM tnaf ior country wnicn occupies such Gen.
on wasG "S cnn BE- a' al. cEe Il
very useinl TO follow the example OF frederick the
EMIT the net, when was to envcop him. was thrown
ever ms head but tore II asunder witn quick antci
PetHy movement. l think that those follow AN
VI n1lSe and unreliable policy VINO suppose that the
fsefnan empire 4 In the position tc quietly await
an attack, which might DE planned against this
Also, by single Powers, until the most suitable and
convenisht moment appeared 10 the enemy to have
p Vie uuU VI the gol eminent, and the nation can
Justly demand IL from the government
THAT II WAR REALLY CANEoT LIE AVOIDED
~ VIII select the proper moment for Carving N on
rhsn " can be carried on, wtn the smallest sacr
direci instances TO you 10 which it would not have
been advisable for The Prusslan state TO have
nW4bS6 Combitic PitpaIdtiOu OH tue part OF lis
enemies the iull realization Of All It's enemies plans
and where a longer period Of expectation would
have eniaEcd greater sacrifices and perhaps de.
feat ON thf country.
ANOTHER QUESTION ANSWERED..
IL In my o6icia 20 Jiton have 10 answer another
question Of Deputy UoverDecks it wifi lie by
question. wbat Inc government thinks or the fate
pf the DI In case an amendment such az tnat OF
Deputy I0verbeck be introduced into IT, need
scarcely say thai IN this case The Dill could no
onger be accepted bS the confederatcd govern,
Dents, ard they would then be IN the painful posi-
nm of