The New York herald., 1871-09-14

, tameIy submit 10 pelng swindled In the shape oI
..nenaites, y "exempuons' and 'deviations."
REPoRrER-,nas Mr. Macgregor a salary or does
nc mr.. TcsrEvIN-He receives moderate salary. 1
believe his inspectors are also salaried,
REPoRrER-Well, what do you attend 10 do about
this matter, Mr.. Tostevin2 Do you intend to prose-
Mr. TosTEyIN-I canno; tell you all intend to do;
but | shall call the master masons and builders
together, agtate the question and see # we cannot
put down an outrageous swind.e. rncy all ieel as
bitterly about these swindes as do.
REPoRTER-Did you receive much violence at the
hands OF Maceregor and his paItys
Mr.. TOSTEyH-A clerk IN Macgregor's office IN
formed friend OF mlne-Mr. Parsons, who saw the
oceurrence-that the man who beat me IN the face
intended TO throw me down stairs and break my
neck. The stairs are fifteen feet descent ana my
my face was cut and bleeding, my. eyes
S % legs e and
II had been playing bail; you know how that Is
yourself. had to get in a car. was 80 torn and
was, and Terrence Herman, builder, and young
Irishman, as good fellow as ever breathed, took
care OF me. was used shameiully. and, although l
do not NEEDLE IN politics, being simply a business
man. think there is something wrong In the sys-
TEN which permits OF such outrages.
the latter stating as he shook hands with him, II
am ordered out OF town by my doctor to take rest
after the beating have got. In few dajs / shall
be able 10 give YOU mucn valuable information.
The HERALD reporter then deemed 1t his duty to
call upon Mfr. Robert Murray, in Pine street, for the
purpose OF hearing the other sIae of the story.
He had some difficulty in finding the particular and
desirable Murray, as that family is as tncKly repre-
sened in the neiehporhood OF Pine and William
streets the fly tribe on a molasses cask IN July.
The first Murray found was the wrong Murray;
but the wrong Murray directed the reporter to the
gT w VINO o mas gs n OF srs the eporer
found small law Office on the second story, with
big lawyer sitting In an armchair before desk: =,
definite age TO be brief, this was the IDENTICAL
much-sought for and only Murray,
If you are the person from whom persons desirous
erecnng buildings w6,s procure Sa aepsations
''rne HERALD Is desrous Of knowing, for the
benefit of its readers, If there is any egaty about
your proceedings The HERALD has received many
letters from time to time, in which II Is charged
that the Department OF Buildings is IN the habit OF
levying 6ackmai on those VINO have houses to erect
| Mr.. MURRAY naye never heard OF any such
thing, Sir. - = -
the habit of dividing the spos with Superintendent,
Macgregor, and tnat no man can get permit to put
up building @ unless I'm IN d .ns slang OF the day. h'
Mr.. MURRAY-Whoever says so Is liar and lies
unequivocay and with malice
REPORTER-Are you not the lawyer TO wnOm
| people apply for the necessary documents?
Mr.. MUKRAY-I am that lawyer, sir.
| REPoRTER-Has Mr.. MacgregOr appointed you as
| his attorney in such proceedingsY
| Mr.. MUKRAY-No, str; never saw Mr. Macgregor
in my life to know him. and never had any transac-
| ton with him OF any KIND.
REPoRTER-Are you, then, the attorney appointed
| by the Supreme Courtf
Mr. MURRAY-NO, sir.
REpORrER-Well, then, how do these people know
of your whereabouts builders, owners and
masonsq Have you any friend in the Department
of Buildings or any acquaintance who directs the
builders to come to you to have permits made out
the department with whom had some dealings IN
selling and buying second mortgages. l am not in
any way connected with Mr. Macgregor or his de-
partment.
REPoRTER-But Mr.. Tosteyin, who was beaten the
other day. and other builders, have informed me
explicitly that 1t is utterly IMPOSSIBLE Tor them to
get permission to build house OF any kiEd without
rs consulting You and pans 70 you SNy
also have stated TO me that there Is taclt under
standing at Macgregor's of1ce that you alone must
be consulted and that when they call on you, unless
they prlng letters from influential politicians or
from Macgregor IN person the most frghtul charges
Mr.. MURRAY.-The act Of 1871 is a discretionary
one. have been nineteen years in this building.
It s,S is usual for lawyers to come 70 me VINO have
not time to make out the forms-l have no printed
forms You will find there on tne desk letters ask,
Win d. Natis, 1e4 Nassau street; Louis Hurst, in
Broadway; Beebe, Dean Donohoe; George Shea,
]. +. Mitchell, 62 Wall street, and others.
The reporter here examined the letters from these
gentlemen to Mr.. Murray, and found in them @ such
the charges as light as you cam and He Is friend
Of mine.H All tending to show that 1t was only
to have the charges made light. What became O
oS ns eS saa as r0
| tanned.
| While pursuing his inquiries in regard to the firm
| OF Macgregor Murray and their TRANSACTIONS sew
eral persons stated the reporter that Mr.. Tweed
! and Mr. Macgregor had during the past five years
divided ST. OO0 600 between them, the net proceeds
| OF their business transactions.
| The ait7. ego OF Mr.. Macgregor, Mr. M. }. Far.
| rell. who developed himself IN the very strange
| proceedings in court, was recently seen IN
conversation with two other men at the corner of
Ann and Nassau streets. Mr.. Farrell wore when
last seen blue sacS coat, black trousers lowcuI
vest with a large gold chain pending from the
pocket: a white beaver nat and small black neck
tie He is q man OF about thirtyfve years OF age,
with q light sandy goatse and mustache When
walking he has very rapid motion, and has Keen
pair OF eyes and sharp features.