New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1871-06-26

plants been made by Gen. Bueri IA laugh Well,
tain appearance Of plausbility in the arguments
he adduces. There ~ one que uoh conheeteu
press my regret / regret that we were not
able TO obtain recognition OF the fenian claims
(Hcarl Her Maesty's Government, however take
upon themselves the whole responsibility OF this; We
did not press these claims because having arrived az
satisfactory arrangement all the numerous and com
pcaed questions at Issue between us ana the United
missioners, including that Of Sir John Macdonald, was
that in the present state OF parties 1t would oe impos
these claims we had TO consider whether We Ought TO
destroy all the fruits of the High Commission, and allow
third failure to be the result OF the ncg9tatGn Az
Commissioners came to an, an agreemen tn Sd
that, though accounts OF them would be com com,
muncated 20 their respective Governments, yet they
shed may add that have not the slightest dopp ~
the wisdom OF the course pursued by the briisu an
and will venture TO say that If every one Of the ten
commissioners, not To mention the Two aDe 100
PATRIOTISM and power of debate for the administration
OF the two hemisphere the 81 sngS be Teslt of The
deliberations would have been aps2lutssy ~.
Hear, hearl The Representatives Oh po.n c tnn
tries displayed great zeal. ability, patience, tenn
per, aud an honest desire to come TO some
compromise even though the dcutes apPeau at th s
whenever the Americans proposed any IL was e
datey accepted TINS however was oy no ad do 1o
great many conditions WHICH the British C0mmlsslOhers
az once declined accede to- and refused TO refer
for consideration TO the Government at home. Many
other propositions that were made referred back
TO Her MaeStys Government, the Commissioners think
ing it their duty 10 inform Her Majesty's Govern
ment that upon their answer the continuance OF the
these qaSsons.s Her Mjestys Government felt that
there would be great responsibility in breaking on the
negotiations and that in such an event ridcule almost
would be brought upon the Commissioners and our
selves Nevertheless we at once declined TO yleld IN
every where deemed IL our duty not 70 Yield
With regard however 10 other points, such as those re-
atng TO forms Of expression and which did not CONNECT
with the real objects OF the treaty we wllnsy either
acquiesced in the proposals or else made counter pro
posals which We're met IN the same spTit Oh m Sp
the American Commissioners, whose leehgS anu pouhn
to say most admirably described In the Dref though
eloquent address recently delivered by Gen schenck on
coming to this country as the representative OF the great
States beyond the Atlantic in order cement very
favorable circumstances the friendly relations between
the two countries
EULoGr OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
In reply Earl Russels taunts, Earl Granville went
on to says We all that there great olec
tons TO Retrospective legislation, and it is not the
habit OF this House Of the English Parliament to re-
sort TO IL but there is difference between applying 1t
10 those who approve Il and applying II to those who
Ronstrate against it. There exceptions to the rule
in even its most limited sense The noble lord kened
peace but il he meant TO suggest that for any soIdd adj
vantage we had sacrificed the honor and Independence OF
this country utterly and entirely repudlle tDe ldea'
assert however that ii was right should, by hon1f
BILE just and fair concession on olr part arrive az
factory solution of difficulties After comparing the Terms
OF the Treaty with those agreed to by the lal Oh Derry
and the Earl of Clarendon in order to SHOW mat te
former had the effect OF laying down prhpes lOf lne
future guidance Of nations, which was not the case with
the latter he pointed out that these principles were emf
England he said that within the
last few days he had received from the United states
proposition TO communicate these rules TO oinef f9Wer
with a view obtain their assent. He maintained that
the adoption of these rules would not place England IN
worse position than at present with regard TO the past
while it would materially improve heT position IN the
future. He concluded as follows: MY IOfds, having
ever 50 saw very few words and prefer doing in
absence of my noble friend Carl de Grey and pon) at
tlis moment / do wish 10 tender very emphatlcally
he thanks Of Her Majesty's Government TO my noble
friend and TO his colleagues aud to ther secretary Ior
f1,au taxi H.
tOnal occasion. lCheers.l do not thank them much
for the trouble they have had OF Two ansh
than the opportunity they have mad OF seeing men anu
ability the Industry the knowledge they have shown in
dealing with this subject [hear heai and above all,
those characteristics which believe we have some right
claim for our public men OF all partles-namey, the
desire to be perfectly straightforward and 10 be per
fect honest and cOneiatory where the honor aud dig
nifty of the country not compromised My lords,
American Commissioners. 1 know il perfectly
ciprOcated by them hear hear and consider IL as
that have had the assistance of SO DISTINGUISHED
member of the Conservative party as Sir Stafford North
cote TO help us In THIS national work ana mat IN me
United States that Treaty was ratified. Whatever the
the Senate by majority which comprised both parties
in the United States. cannot help thinking that your
which cannot doubt will be productive OF really good
feeling between this country and those with whom we
NAV add one word in the hearing Of one who may pos
sibiy be now present within these wals-of one who
and the influence Of his cOuntymen contributed largely
to the happy conclusion OF the abors OF the Comls
sio-One who has lately arrived among us eminenty on
mission of peace. should like to be able TO say on the
part Of Her MaJesty,s Government, and may add OF
TO the American Government for the disposition they
have shown in this matter. Hear, hear trust as me
ing both sides, he will observe that III this House we
can take large ana Da
involved and that IL is not the desire OF parties unless
rassinent and difficulty when these can be avoided
am sure he viii that your OTdships are not behind
any class OF your eounymen in the honest and sincere
desire TO have these great questions settled in fair and
proper spirit and in really genial feeling towards that
important ut gOtiatiOns" loud cheers.l
OPINIONS OF LORD DERBY.
Lord Derby said that if the Government failed in
venting the escape of these vessels 1t quite natural
we should express regret at having failed do that
confessedly tried sincerely TO do Hear hear 1t is not
denied that the escape Of the Alabama regretabe
proceedings but think quite enough was done TO show
our willingness TO repair real or supposed wrong
when we agreed TO refer the whole question to the udg
ment OF third party without making use OF any further
tany in my opinion unnecessary. IL is one thing TO
IN tbe terms az" Contained in tits freay With
respect the retrospective rules The said; object
70 sound and lust principles because wheR you yield
in one it is not easy to resist in another Hear
mode Of arbitration was adopted Two years ago the
American Senate refused the free and unfettered Dir
tjOp then offered TO Them and they not wrong in
one point of view doing so; because, undoubtedly,
leaving all matters, had done, IN the hands OF
peent arbitrator the result OF these claims would have
BEEN America was concerned exceedingly un-
certain; and it hard 10 conceive anything more
ludcros than the position In which the claimants and
their friends would been, it, after cutlery of four
or FIVE years, their own arbitrator found the
case against them They declined to accept IL
until it was made tOlerably sure beforehand
that they would win-to have, II might use the
expression, loaded dice, in which there would be
no possibility OF its falling in our favor-and her
Maesty's Government considered it was not an unreas
Ouabl Ia
TIE prospective issue words have been omitted which
might point TO awkward results YOu have omitted the
words reasonable grounds for believing" that the yes
sci was fitted waTke purposes, and left IL in issue
whether the vessel intended for ware purposes,