The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-08-20
srnnnsns is nrmly established in rome, the move

eminent Is firmly established IN Rome the move
ment VIII freak out there: IN Switzerland there Is
q most violent struggle OF the government against
uItramontauism. Inc Prussan government. as YOU
KNOW bas taken a decided position. The ultra
mOntanes reply In a threatening manner mat the
unity OF the empire VIII be injured II they are not
lett alone. Everything Is preparing for great
.Tell me. Professor, what are the tendencies OF
your movementW
he replied, "iS not alone 10 cast or this dogma VI
infal blilty, but 10 banisn completely the germ OF
superstition and uncleaniiness from the nmatch.
the last centuries. We have various allies. some
60 with rs out OF political motives. aSlnst tne
political aims the uramonranes; others are
With Us from the pure Old Catholic religious con-
victlon. indignant at the conduct OF Rome, ! con-
slider Tie struggle necessary for political freedom
IN the interest OF intellectual culture and in the in
terest OF the great labor qnestion. Especiay 90
/ see in the degradation 1t has under-one,
az shown in the supcrstltiOus current among
Sar Ssep TanSsf us 10 nOna for one
great attack, ana we nave 10 see That our opponent
never brings DIVISION INTO our forces. In the mean'
time the struggle VIII be maintained by us untlr-
inaly by means OF addresses, brochures &C. Ana
let me assure !oua reformation IN the Churcn -
very necessary. We seek 10 reach reform In the
discipline, IN the liturgy In the language, in the
Clergy, IN order 10 bring about thereb, re,ohc,
alton Win other rlsti III communities convinced
that region Ii an ideal foundation tor the ne OF
the individual as well IS OF NE STATE we SD qua
seek to preserve and secure THIS domination. But
In this era OF Tree anu bold thought religion VIII
not he saved by excluding iG from ~ science ana
This IL my own standpopt-that is, the pnilosophi-
TAXING MY LEAVE.
looked up and found the Professor hau got to the
end OF ms Interesting discourse, and fearing that
] had already taken up too mucn o his tne arose
70 depart. nclore .eavng ne told me some interest
ing particulars connected with Dr. D0ilingcr; among
other things that he rs now engaged on great work
In which tie whole question at Issue Is satisfactorily
treated. But Inc aged Doctor Is so overrun by
English tourists and cier1ynen, ana 80 often In
terrupted IN his la0ors that he is about to leave
for meditation ana labor. almost began 10 doubt
whether should be able to get an interview with
Professor D0llinger on hearing this, anu was ao-
vlsed by Professor Huber to
SEE PROFESS JR FRIEDRICHs
nrst. "And where can | best the latter gentle.
man ~ asked. do you know the Golden Bear ~
he asked. "Ihen 20 there at nine O'Clock tonight;
make your way into the large garden ut the back,
and there ask the kcllner which Professor Fried
rchs.n did so, and found the young Professor
taking his frugal evening meal, with u number OF
Otner priests aud professors In the easy manner 80
common TO Munich. ! found iim very soclahle
and accepted his Invitation To call upon him at his
study on the following morning at ten.
A TALK WITH PROFESSOR FRIEDaICHS.
'Frthns strassc, No. H."
Although this Is the ADDRESS given on the Address
may look tor II from now till d0onsday In modern
Munich and not md It, Bavaria possesses vcrO-
Know how better to make his name immortal that
by christening Fruhhng strasse Won der Tam
the ni Street towards No. ia high
house. with parteIre and rce storlcs In the former
OF which dwcs DR.. Dollinger; IN the uppermost
Professor Filedrichs. Ascending the Stairs and
knocking at the door of the third story | was
ushered by The servant girl at once into the PROBES.
sor's Stay, and AS he was not In ut the moment
had an excellent opportunity to look around In this
anti-inahbilty workroom. A plain deal-noored
room, centre table writing desk, a few large
bookcases, every article crowded with literature a
vast amount uncut and unbound-boOSs, books In
every available spOwhilc the centre ana side tables
had literary deposits over foot in depth. me Pro-
fessOr's writing desk was study-uooks, newspa-
pers, Pamphlets proof sheets, In tneXtrlcabe con-
In q few moments Professor Fredrchs appeared
ayoung man OF perhaps flve-and-twenty, with dark
brown hair, worn sOmew hat long, well brOnzed face,
rather high check bones, beardess and rather
prominent. percentive brow. lie does not make
upon you the impression OIL respect that you must
icc In ID Fingers presence: indeed, he Is still young
and has his future before nlm founu him ut work
correcting the proJi sheets Of the second volume OF
the "DOcuments Relating to the Vatican Council OF
1870" most Cf which documents he had collected
while al Rome in MS position rs chaplain 10 Cardi-
nal Hohenl ohe. Like Professor Huber, his first
question was The
EFFECT or rIIe poLLINGER MOVEMENT IN AMERICA.
Professor Frtedrchs Is not \ fluent talker; con-
sequenty his conversation was rather disconnected.
lie spoke incidentally OF Archbishop Spalding beng
OF tne opinion that the decree would not have been
put through but Tor him. KendricK OF st. Louis he
SAID, one OF the most active opponents OF The
dogma: but when the dogma was announced he had
nothing else to do but. with the German bishops
submit TO the decree OF the Council Recently Lord
Acton mas received lett r from the Archbishop In
which the latter makes comparisons of the lnfalll
billy dogma with that OF the Immaculate concep
Iion Tor neither of which lie could ever bring proof:
to his own conscience. lie accepts them only be
cause the Church has dccreed them.
TIE COUNCIL AND THE DOGMA.
.Never was Council so much opposed" he con-
tinued AT the last sitting nearly all the bishops
stayed away. and yet when the Gogma was pro-
nOuIced they nearly all submitted The clergy Of
Germany are now waiting for an invitation. Thon
sands VIII come TO Us as soon as the road is clear
before July Is, 1870. We are endeavorlny 10
REFORM EyEKYTHING
that needs reform. We have as yet no programme
Firs we must GET an organlzatlon then take further
measures by means OF synods Fundamentally al oui
reiormatofy movements are induced ny the pope,s
tencc" Is claimed by him IL is Impossible 10 intro.
duce any reforms. Many of me bishops are ours 81
heart One, in particular, will come over as soon aa
Il Is polite. will not name him. The movement
will last long and, personally, think that not many
loose IRON Rome We mold fast TO the primate, but
We wish that the encroachInenis 'teoe,yrts OF the
primate be done away WITH We wish a thorough
Teiormsuch rs has been sriven for Tor fve hundred
years It Is great designation of our Church
when the prmate assumes rights that do not belong
In answer TO my question as TO
TIE POSITION OF THE BAvARIAN GOVERNMENT,
Professor Friedrichs said Theoretically, the
government Is on our side, but practically 1t has
done nothing me iniiaIVe VIII prooapy DC TAKEN
difficulty III this matter. The ultramontanes in the
Berlin Rechsag have pressed Bismarck forward
and the position which he has taken very inspiring
TO us. King Ludwig, OF Bavaria, has really with.
drawn himself from the matter. Personally, he
position Is correct believe that ut some not far
distant day the Concordat will have to be abol
u
OF sadness Of the
DIFFICULTIES OF SPREADING KNOWLEDGE OF TIE
MOVEMENT
among the mass of the people In Bavaria, since the
clergy have the rule IN the villages. But for some
years past more enlightened Opinions have been
Spreading IN the villages and the people are getting
cmancuated from their clergy. The movement, he
thinks, Will prepare the way for a reconciliation
with other CHRISTIAN confessions; especially did ne
seem TO think that the English Church would be
won, an opinion also entertained by Professor Dbl
hnGer.
LIKE TO sEE DoILrNGER-
"And now, Professor Friedrichs,n said your cor
respondent. "aftcr thanking you for your iniorma
ton, would Ike to know II you cannot procure me
III interview with Dr. D0uingcr. know he ~ pes
tered with visitors and In his press OF engagements
will hardly IKE being interrupted by n newspaper
correspondent. But, as you see too am for The
moment yours, and only acting as the Interpreter
your views lor q miliiCn-headed American audi
cncc.N
This happy idea seemed 10 strike Professor Fried
r1chs very favorably. "Well," said he ''I know h(
diskes to be Interviewed. but you go down, intro.
duce yourself, tell him what you want openly aud
A. IN i'm in At