The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1871-06-14

| and If nv advice had been followed the war
would not have ended until We had Killed
more" Once upon tne sao!ecs 81 Wal f. d ne
nonnce the North, and to call the Union army
a horde of m~ercenaries, marauders and
thieves. It was clear that the war had taught
| him no lesson, and that his feelings were as
| bitter as when the contest was at its helght.
| He finally got upon the subject Of the present
he said. had stolen sl6,0e0Io0e from the State
for himself and his friends. The bonds the
Radicals had issued would never be paid; 1t
| amused him to see the Wall street bankers
buying them at 80s6r so cents on the dollar,
when they were not worth e1pper., no man
here would give a dime TOT a sasnelo Oh mem.
He hoped Bullock would forge a lot OF them,
aud give the New York Yankees a lthey would
take at any price. 1t was d way OF foraglng
on the enemy that he liked TO see. NOT a dol,
| lar oil the debt contracted since the war Woulu
| ever be paid. He gave an entertaining de-
| scription OF the character and autecedents 81
| The prominent Radicals in the State, and would
| not admit that there was a decent man among
them ali. Most of the members of the LegiS-
| !ature, he said. never ventured to go back to
| the counties they pretended to represent, Ter
they knew the people would hang them If they
did. The two members from the nelghDoring
County of Lincoln had never been there SINCE
! they were elected, in 1868. ~
AS TeSdrdS ueSio SuuiaSci Iu"1
| an unmiXed evil. a great lump OF ignorance
| and vice had been made part OF the governing
/ class. He said vice because the negroes were
| all thieves. They were like animals, and
would steal anything they saw that they want
| ed, as naturally as a hog would break INTO a
p%otato-feld OF, q dog. would seize piece OF
meat. He did not think an intelligent qualin-
cation for suffrage would remedy the evil.
Reading and writing did not fit q :aan for
| voting. The Paris mob were Intelligent, out
| they were the most dangerous class 10 the
| world to be trusted with any OF the powers OF
| government. A property qualification was
what was necessary for q stable government.
Only those who owned the country should
govern Ii, and men who had no property had
| no right to make laws for propeFty-he!d-
| ers. He said there was no harm IN the
negroes voting as long as the whites
all belonged to one party, but the danger ne
| seafed was that the whites would eventually
| divide into two parties on State Issues, and
that a party would be formed composed OF me
lower classes Of white men-the dangerous, If
| responsible element-and that the negroes,
BY natural affinity, would join that party which
| would then be in the majority, and being able
to control the State, would then attack tle 10
terests OF the landed proprietors: The haoi-
Gals have been greatly mistaken Ia eountng
upon the negroes as the basis OF their party;
1.-The negroes, now that they are satlsned
| there is no danger of being re. ehslaved. Will
| vote lust as their employers tell them. Tney
can't afford to do anything else. They are al
| tached TO their old homes, and have no money
| with which to move and find new ones, ana
they will not risk being discharged oy voting
against the planters who hire hem" TWo-
thirds. of the negroes IN this county voted Win
| the Democrats last fall, ne said.
/ asked II, when the golden age on Southern
Independence came, which he so confidently
expected, the blacks would be reduced TO
! slayery again. BE tliOughsn not and said that
| slavery would have gradually died ont If sc,
| cesslon had been successful, because 1t Would
soon have ceased to be profitable. Only IN
cotton culture did slave labor pay. because
cotton Is a crop that must be worked $50 days
| in a year. Corn requires but 40 days labor,
and wheat but 20; 50 there was no profit in
| feeding q man aud his family a whole yearto
| get his labor to raise corn or wheat. There
| never was any question OF morals connected
with slavery, he said; it was only a matter or
profit or loss. I was glad To find that, on this
question, General Toombs had made some pro-
gress in his opinions during the past ten
years, and that he no longer expects to have
that roll .sll at the. foot of the monument.
General Toombs characterized the kIl.kluX as
the natural protest OF an oppressed people
against tyranny. Madame De Stael, he said,
hud described the Russian Government as q
[despotism tempered by assassination. Al
though he did not say SO in explicit terms. he
let It be clearly inferred that he consider
ed the reconstructed governments Of the
Southern States as despotlsms tempered BY
kn-KluXism. ~
The, conversation lasted an hour, and was
much of the time o discussion which / consid-
cred more acrimonious than courteous on the
part OF General Toombs, as he was the aggres-.
sor and assailed the. Northern people, their
habits, customs, ancestors and character with
extreme violence. Half an hour afterward We
parted. While sirolliHg about the town / met
him on his way. home, and he cordially invited
me to take tea with him. somewhat to my sur
prise. We walked up d narrow. street bordered
by handsome white houses, with pretty door,
yards, and turned into q lovely garden flied
with roses In bloom and. many varieties Of
blOssoming shrubs and ornamental trees,
through which a long path led up the high
pillared piazza OF q dne house. He presented
me To his family In a pleasant room, filed with
Once athome the manner OF the genera chang,
ed at once, and instead Of. the bitter political
partisan he became the genial host. and talked
In the most entertaining manner of his
travels abroad, OF his residence in Paris,
of English politics and statesmen, aud
OF the future OF tile continental nations.
Speaking Of home affairs he said that
returned from Europe In 1851, and that his
coachnan was the Same man who drove his
carriage when he was a senator al Washing-
ton, and that the mans grandfather was his
.grandiaiher's coachman. An hour passed in
the most agreeable manner, and when took
my leave l should have concluded that The
general had, in our first conversation, amused
himself by astonishing me with extreme views
he did not really entertain, had / not heard
IRON many sources Of his violent reactionary
opinions. He is a man OF striking personal
Appearance. He is six feet in-height, with a
powerful frame, a head somewhat resembling
that OF Daniel Webster, In its unusual size and
in the great heighth and breadth Of the FORE
head. He is o rapid and brilliant talker, and
has a memory that seems to lose nothing that
he has ever seen, heard or read. His KNOW
ledge Of history is especially thorough, particu-
larry Of all the efforts and struggles for liberty
that the world has ever ~knownAthe most gl0-
rious Of all these struggles being, in his
opinion, the Southern rebellion. He Is a man
that 1t is easy to see would be a leader wher-
ever he might be placed, and his influence in
Georgia is admitted 10 be great.
: 4 HUMAN HOLOCAUST.
SAN FRANCISCO, June i3.
The ship Don Juan was burned at sea. Five