The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1871-06-29

South and the Southern Leaders.
correspondence OF the New York Herald.l
CINCINNATI, June %, /.
During his recent visit here the Chief Justice
kept himself very retired. After staying a. few
days at the hotel he accepted the hospitailties
of rich, retired merchant few miles from
the CITY. Here he remained in comparative
secluslon, seeing only a few old personal
friends, and consulting with Wash. Mclean
and some of the leaders OF the "new depar-
ture" movement"
Your correspondent, having known the
Chief Justice in other and more prosperous
days was favored with en- interview. 1t was
iust after breakfast, and 1 found Mr.. Chase
reading the morning papers He is greatly
CHANGED in appearance. His figure is still tall,
erect and commanding, but he has grown 30
thin that his clothes seem to hang loosely upon
him. They look as If they had been made lor
another man. His large, expressive eyes are
sunken in his head, and, with his heavy, snag.
py eyebrows, he reminds you OF panlei meo-
ster in his ripper years. There Is visible nerV-
onsness of manner about the Chief Justice
which makes you feel anything but comiorta-
bic In his presence, and yet when ne talks ne
seems quite at ease. AZ,
said, as we shook hands,.
"Pretty good,n he replied, with an effort at
cheerluness; .'that Is, better than it has been"
After few seconds hesitation he said, ~ am
so much In the habit of saying that my healtn
ia good that I sometimes forget thai nave
heep 40 invalid, and am only just recovering.
Still am much better than have been, ana
hope this summer to regain my Wonteo
strength" -,, ,,,
"lor your health ?" ~
"Yes, I am going to try some springs there
that have been recommended. to me very
highly. They are reported to possess great
Here the Chief Justice fell into q sort of
reyerie. After staring at Vacuity lor lew
minutes, he suddenly recolected nlmseu anu
| INQUIRED what the news was.
aThe absorbing news here" replied,
s.seems to be the sudden and tragic death OF
Yallandlgham" -. :.
| this time. think, 1t is unfortunate. Pallan-
| dgham was man OF great ability and OF un-
| doubted courage. Even when had occasion
to differ with him politically (which am free
to say I do not now,) always admired MS
courage. There are lew Of our public men
who possess this quality in greater degree
"Do you think lVallandigham's death Will
have any serious effect upon the new depar-
ture' movement, Of which he was the au-
thor2" -:
until 1t covers the whole country. aoat re. re,
member any political movement that mas
made so deep an impression upon parties and
upon the country as the one which may De
said to have been inaGgureted by Mr.. Vallan-
dlgham, Had he lived 1t would naturally
have given him. great influence not Only Win
the Democracy but with the honest, thinking
men OF all parties; for this movement, think
| publican party as well as the Democratic" .
~ have heard some Republicans, Mr.. Chief
Justice. say that had Vallandigham lived. he
would probably have come over 10 tne hepQo.
| lican organization. What do you thlnk-of II Z"
.0h, no, that's q great mistake. All the he
publcans he wanted would have come over 10
him. There would have been no occasion ior
him going to them. Mr.. Yallandigham fortu.
nateiy discovered what many Republicans had
been looking fora platform upon which the
honest, patriotic men of both parties could
come together" After brief silence, the
Chief Justice added thoughtlully, ut -is only .
WThen YOU think some OF the, Republicans
will ioin the new departure movement :"
swell, yes; think they will. It looks to
me like the nucleus OF a new part. There are
great many people who are dissatisfed Wlth
both parties. They are anxious LOT a;ulnereut
order OF things. The war is over and lhe peo-
pie want peace. The Republican party, OF az
least some OF Its leaders seem bent on perpetu-
ating the memories Of the war and thus keep
ing alive the feeling Of hatred and sectional
ism which engendered.it. This Is destructive
to the best interests Of both sections. Some
of the Democrats on the other haad, refuse
to accept the results of the war, but don't
believe their numbers are formidable at all"
kT$ 1oT nou vii SfnnhnnQ
Toombs and few men OF that class IN the
South are unwilling to accept the situation"
At6rst the Chief Justice made no reply to
this statement, but after a while he said :: (
Davis has been acting very fOollshly OF late
in making speeches. l rather think ne has
been misrepresented to some extent by the
reporters, but he would have done better 70
have pursued the course he did at first and
have refused to make speeches. Davis,
Stephens and Toombs represent but small
class of the Southern people. | believe the
masses OF them accept the results Of the war
In good faith. You see some of the most IN
fuential OF the Southern newspapers repudiate
the utterances of these men.
''What effect will the new departure move.
ment have upon the election Of President In
1872 90
II should think it would have very great
influence upon that election. A great deal, Of
course, depends upon the candidates and the
platforms. If the Democrats nominate good
man, who will command the popular conf
dence, and place him upon the new depart
ure' platform, he will, think, stand good.
chance OF being elected. There Is a great deal.
of dissatisfaction with the Republican party.
Many people who are anxious for peace be-
lieve that we cannot have peace between the
North and the South while The Republican
party remains In power, Before the harmony
between the two sections Is restored there
must be general amnesty proclaimed. Now,
while there, are q number of prominent men
in the Republican party-men like Greeley
and Butler-who favor general amnesty, the
mass of the leaders Of the party are against 1t.
You remember last winter how Congress re-
fused to pass an amnesty bill ?"
.sThe Republicans seem to be concentrating
upon Grant as their candidate; what will the
Democrats do ?"
~ don't know. There are number of good
men whose names have been mentioned, any
one OF whom would make an able President.
I suppose the Republicans will nominate
number of available candidates"
"They think Grant Is their strongest man ?"
swell, so he Is, suppose; and yet under
stand there Is considerable opposition among
some of the Republicans to his renomina-
tion."
''The Republicans lay great deal of stress
upon the fact that he has collected the reye-
nue., paid off the debt, and settled the Alabama
question
1.-THE Secretary Of the Treasury. think, de-
serves quite as much credit for collecting The
revenue and paying of the debt as the .Presi-