The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-10-03

democrats think OF them ~
'Why, lhey don't know anything about them.
They are local affairs we care nothing about In
years past when Mozart was one OF TIE parties op.
posed TO Tammany, Of course the country knew all
about Mozart for 1t had its ramifcauons all through
the state. Since then
THE PARTY IN THE COUNTRY
has had no divisions whatever. and don't believe
there q single voter In the interior from one end
OF It to the other who knows ANYTHING about either
O'Brien or Ledwtn They don't care 6g for any
faction In New York, nolnatter what 1t u.s."
number Of gentlemen here entered the room,
and, as General Green was in demand, the CONVEX
sation between him and your correspondent was
brought TO termination.
found Judge 6onstoss aue willing to give his
opinions as to what he thought OF the New YORK
"Do the country people, Judge. asked, ..believe
the charges against Tammsny to have been estaD-
"Tney, do to man. Now have myself carefully
read ali the excuses put forth by the men against
whom the charges have been made, and l think
they are perfectly absurd The defence they have
made Is no defence ut all. TO be sure, they have
not been legally convicted OF the frauds charged
against them and they may never. be; but, for all
to show that they are not the innocent men they
claim to be. And as for Mayor Halls excuse rnat
could not oe held Responsible think that was the
absurdest excuse OF all. It may stand good with
New Workers, but IT would not have much weight
In the country where everything Is judged accorl-
ing TO lts worth. 1t IS needless for me
to tell you what people In this portion OF the State
come from the farther western portion. But here
abouts II has produced an immense excitement,
Why, talking about IL producing bad eject mere in
this region, 1t has been made
WEAPON AGAINST THE PARTY
all over the country. IL Is unjust that such should
be the case; but there IT Is nevertheless Just think
OF making capital against the democratic party in
men in New York city 1t was only the other day
that was talking with gentleman just returned
e ne oy on the II
these Tammany frauds. Every speaker In the CAM
paign made them his stock IN trade, and what could
The facts were too plain and they were powerless,
and they lost their hold all over the State" -,
at the coming eectlOnW
ut win be II the Convention that meets IN Roches-
ter does not, In the name vi the party,
DENOUNCE TIE MEN
who are guilty and disciaim any connection
with them Whatever. We have here, although we
votes. Our party in the State, in the interior, like
these ten thousand, Is an honest well meaning
uss as ses e not as hey mng
CLOSED over to SUIT the whims or fancies
Of any parry or any fraction Of parry and II is not
is. Yet my conscientious conviction is That no one
of these ten thousand VIII vote the ticket tins fall II
Hall at the Convention; and, from oil can learn,
the same feeling prevails all over the entire State.n
Convention to appease this iseiingY ~ : ~
II am Of that opinion. That IS the only way to
put an end to, the dinIcuity. really do not think
Convention under any circumstances, for they know
that they cannot possibly represent
THE FEELING or THE HONEST DEMOCRATS
In New York city, as matters now stand.n
.But II she should send delegation OF well-known
men. distinguished for their prObityY
The Judge seemed rather ticklcd at this question,
and laughed Q little before replying
:, THAT, think, Is a. iImpossbty. ! DO not be-
city who would allow his name 10 be mentioned in
connection with that OF Tammany Han: II would
be monstrOus to expect anything OF the kind.n
"There may be row II she Is refused admit
tance."
the long We would be fighting the battle Of the
citizens against a clique, and the people would be
on our slde no matter what show OF responsibility
have been, sir, democrat all my life time and love
the democratic party becauseI believe 1t to be the
peoples party, Tut would rather lose my right arm
than vote any ticket that Tammany Hal might put
up or that she would nave controlling voice In
party feel The must act boldly about
those frauds in New York, and not take a backward
sep under any influences whatsoever. 1t must not
like
THROWING TUB TO A WHALE.
What 1t does 1t must do for the people, or the
people Will crush out every man who stands between
them and what IS right. There isno need at the
tOus insult. but they can be made TO understand
easily enough, Without anything harsh being done
for the sake OF harshness that they and the party
are not one and tile same thing and that the party
regard them III the light OF mea who are not to be
associated with. Iammany may get sulky over the
feel confident she Will be roughly handled by the
country members II she tries 70 make herself heard.
But what IL she does What II she goes home and
refuses work for the Ticket and that by that
the New York be decreased so that the coun-
try cannot make up Tor the lossf What OF IL all
Tanmany alone can be held responsible for the
thing. But tell you what 1t Is, sir. I'd rather see
OUR PARTY OVERWHELMINGLY DEFEATED
this fall by reason Of the Tammany vote falling on
In New York III consequence OF the treatment enc
ges at the Convention by honest men, lhan % allow
or saving The Tammany vote, made compromise
with thieves. IL would be far better for US to lose
the lection this fall this ground tnan TO go before
the people at the Presidential election weighed
down by this weight or sustaining or compromising
with Iammany to gain votes at the State contest.
think that The condition OF affairs Is such now that
the people OF this country are ready to
FALL INTO OUR ARMS
and put the democratic party In power, provided we
do not III this State, the Empire State OF the democ
racy, give way 10 either threats. beseechngs or ex-
pedicnces OF any Kind which may look even II they
are not, ike truces with wrongdoers and enemies Of
"Wlif the State 60 democratic, Judge, this fall, If
no truce be made with Tamplanyfn
1t will, have every reason TO believe. 1t may
be, as said oeloep let the action Of the Conven.
om ty ana q t tns Io M ,n Q.
State. But the bin Gar Gary fail on Tammany IN such
case. and the fact Of our being defeated be-
~ MANFuLLY OPPOSING CORRUPTION
win only rebound to benefit at the Presidential
the party should be looking forward to. Putting
aside the probability OF the detection Of the Tam
many voters 1nk the STATE % 60 }r
IL Tammany Will not Der"
In my opinion the Convention will admit from
New York the delegation that comes with The best
men who faithfully represent the honest men OF the
party in that city, and none other. We can put a
strong ticket In the field Of well known men, and
put up platform that will have no uncertain plank
in any part Of ia platform that republicans as
well as democrats can stand on
IN PERFECT BROTHERHOOD.
In this we have the advantage OF not having made
up our ticket yet. The republicans have put IN the
field ticket OF comparatively unknown me1, whO
with possibly one exception are barely Known out
side OF their own districts. they are all men who
have no real solid hold on their own party-the
whole party, mcan-and so putting all things to-
gether think the prospects OF our party are excel
lenLn
After the interview had quite long chat with
several ofthe gentlemen from the southern counties
OF the State who are TO be delegates at the C0nven
ton, and found them all unanimous on this one
pont-that Tammany Hall should, under no con-
sideration be admitted TO the Convention, mas
much, come as 'TespectabIy dressed, as she