New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1871-05-19
NETWORK, FRIDAY, MAY 10, 1871

He hoped others would likewise confess he protested
Ma gs af b senate ssaasr had made breast
Mr. DAVIS Dem Ky) said 1t was no part Of the duty
Department or punish for q violation Of Its confidence
The duty of the Senate was TO vindioate ana @
honor and beyond ths its Jurisdiction did not
Mr. THURMAN Dem, Oho) intended to vote for MT:
Wilson's notion he did not mean to do so on any ase
grounds erroneous notion OF the law He held snas
the witness could be confined for Pt hos s
punishment. He thought that the senate mao g one
far they ought 20 go. What was to prevent sehaps
from being Summoned before the 10 ~ them
by the State Department. BY this means uey ngms
discover from whom the witness procured copy OF sS
Treaty The Senate ought to resort To this before ey
consign the witness to indefinite imprisonment A.. Fan
tnton authorizes the Senate to declare what part Of
their proceedings shall be kept secret Congress mas 1os
publishing their proceedings committing breach OF
lie confidence The real oense In this ease was that the
any member OF the Senate or officer Of the body had
communicated copy Of the Treaty to them or to any
Mr.. White exonerated every Senator from blame
Mr.. MORTON Rep Ind argued that when the Senate rat.
that copy " the Treaty did not get out through
any Senator officer Of this body, the INVESTIGATION
shou AThe evidence OF the witnesses ought 70 10
MI SUMNER Rep.. Mass) showed that according to
the parliamentary authorities the House Of Lords could
but the House OF Commons could not prison
beyond It's session We nave sns 81 serv In
the absence Of constitutional the order TOT me
imprisonment of witness expires at the emo OF 'no
session
Mr.. CARPENTER WILLING TO TAKE HIS SHARE OF RDi-
GUILE.
Mr. CARPENTER CRep., Wis., said he had done in this
matter what II his duty to do as Chairman Of the
Committee. He was ready to take one-seventeth part
the rdcuc but not to be OF the I'VE members OF
the Committee suffer ycariOusly for the whole body
Mr.. THURMAN replied to Mr.. Sumner about the
Mr. STEWART dReP., NebJ said Senators were sworn
rule o. The Senate Some Of the Senator'S
another correspondents do among themselves Inc
senators should either observe the rules or aSrSgste
answer, saying it was artfuly drawn and evaded the
The Senate then voted on Mr. Wilson's amendment TO
strike from the resolution the power OF the committee
to sit during the recess and decided the question In the
M ar WINDOW Rep., MIMI offered an amendment
namely, that the Committee be required TO continue
their daily session until the sand witnesses shall come
before them and purge themselves OF contempt I me
consin Carpene witnesses had the key of the
IN their but i ns Ra %o srS S
OF the Senate appointed the Committee TO act
S dTTns e the %bssss we're Ss on ady to
purge themselves Of contempt they should have have
STs to GS 81 preeS nc procamaOn
he travelled from his home distance OF 700 mica lie
Whole week discussing the dignity" OF the Senate He
believed dignity" consisted In doing their duty faith.
the senate would be better served II the witnesses
turned to the law than that the Senate should Ion
Mr MORTON Gep.. Ind said the resolution, "a II
Stood was equivalent to confning the witnesses until
next winter, they could be released only by coming
before the Committee to testify.
Mr. WINDOWS amendment was rejected-Yeas, 10;
Alter further proceedings the resolution amended
to provide that II the Committee shall fail to as
semble alter days notice, that the witnesses are
ready to the questions reported 70 the
On motion Of Mr. CoNKLING Rep., y. " 1t was pro-
vided that it shall be the duty OF the Sergeantat Arms
when he shall be informed OF the readiness OF te Wiz
to answer to inform each member OF the Com
mttee thereof. - -
Mr.. SUMNER (Rep., MassD inquired what was 70 be-
come OF the correspondents The Ne York Herald He
was subscriber to that paper His paper of yesterday
contained what purports to be the protocols On com.
Ra5n T copy Il e p1 IN has had POnded
had The Herald He submitted the proceedings Of the
TRIBUsR had good 80 should ne Herald
Mr.. CARPENTER said the scpate ought to bring the
matter before the Committee. ::
Mr.. SUMNER replied that ne brought 1t to the atten-
NM Mr. y THURMAN Dem Ohio, said me Herald wa.
more guilty than THE TRIBUNE, for the State Depart
ment had not prepared for publication synopsis OF the
Amendments were everally offered by Messrs. HAIR
Ian, THURMAN, vICkERs and CAssERLY and voted
'' Mr.. CARPENTERS RESOLUTION ADOPTED.
The resolutions offered by Mr. Carpenter, amended
above stated were agreed TO by Yeas 81 to Nays H.
number Of the Senators having paired of and left the
chamber. A., .,,
when the questions had refused TO before the
Committee were read him by the Vice President.
Mr. Ramsdell having been sworn, declined TO answer
the question TO where and from whom he obtained
copy of the Treaty. &C., for the reason that 1t must be
apparent every honorable man that having given his
solemn promise to reveal the name OF the person
from whom il was obtained, 10 do so would cause him to
forget his sefrespect and render him Infamous In the
ewes Of his professional associates He was willing to
make oath before the Committee or elsewhere that he
did not obtain il from Senator any officer OF the
Senate directly indirectly. He had reason to be-
leye the document came from Senator
ON motion OF Mr.. CARPENTER, a resolution was
adopted similar to that i'll Mr. Whites case by vote Of
yeas "a, nays IA.
The Senate at $40 adjourned,
THE CORRESPONDENTS IN CONFINEMENT.
Messrs White and Ramsdel were taken in custody by
the sergeant-at-A Arms and provided with accommoda-
lions in the room Of the Committee on the Pacific Rail-
roads,
THE TREATY IN THE NEW DOMINION.
THE BLUE NOSES IN A TERRIBLE STATE OF FER
MENT-THE TREATY DENOUNCED AS ONE
SIDED AFFAIR-THE BAY OF FUNDY FISHER
MEN INDIGNANT
ST. JOHN, N. B., May 1S.-Public feeling in
Nor- still rms h oh the Treaty. m