Memphis daily appeal. [volume] (Memphis, Tenn.) 1847-1886, 1871-12-30
sCRURZ.
Hs Is Interviewed by a New York Tribune
Correspondent.
Wat he gnnzs absut TrunbElPs Resolu.
tlsn Tor tbs investigation Of
Radical kfaIrs.

n LnAaAA1@- y IAAaA6N- -
50 much has been said of late, in the
sensse and out OF it, and especially by q
New YORK Administration newspaper,
shopt the ~"Ge6p-lsid plot" entered into
nv earlsiB irdepsnd6ut Republicans 10
strike a blow ut tbe administration,
through tls Introduction In tbs senate OF
NJ. TTuU lul's resolution % revive the
committee on retrenchments that Inc cor
RESPONDENT OF tho Tribune resolved 10 90
to ne bettcm Of the matter, Snd ind out
the ngnaes Of the plOtteEs, when and
where the scheme was formed, and what
its real object wRE. For this purpose he
called. tuia afternoon, On Senator Scnurzi
who Is reygrJsd 10 be Z OF the leading
spirirs of the plot, TO ascertain q he
knes sJou. It. The conversation vas 6
long one. end covered tbs whole ground.
After calling to mind the fsct thst Sens
Tor Seburz arrived here only tbs night be-
fore tle meeting Of congress- from a
somewhat extended lCcturing tour, and
had therefore met very few, II any OF the
leading men OF the country, tie CONVEX
sation proceeded substantially as follows:
Corrssp0rdaut-IG has been said in de-
bate. and repeated by some OF the news
papers. uEEt there WIS, before the meet
l'Tg OF congress, some secret understand
ips- among Eue Independent Republicans
RnS edEt IE IVES EuOWn IN washington
~ moutE $40, that ths first movement
uEANnEN 70
rsvivtI o. thr committee on retrench-
mani with vel az as head Do o
know anything @'3ut III
Ssnag1F S.guTz -EnB story SGT sd0st by
a Kew York paper, that there Vas sn
understanding bstw5eu oenstoL 1Ium-
bull and myssli, 20 move Lae restoration
OF tho committee on retrsnc.1 melt, and
10 have me chairman of It, n men 70
publih csmsging reports shortly oeiore
the Republican national convention 50
IS 10 prevent President Grants renoAu-
instiOc, il absolutely absurd.
Uorrespondsnt-Dld not Trumbun tell
you Of his intended movsmsntI
Senator SCLuTZ-N5; L Odd not Know
ANYTHING Of MS intention to move the
restoration Of that COMMITTEES in caucus,
and he told me sitter yard that the thought
had not occurred until thai same morning.
He did not consult me when he moved II
in the senate. Ia fsct, Is escaped my at
teution altogether whom he did so, md
first obsained knowledge OF Il from him
some time during b afternoon.
Observation-Disclosures you have con-
ssnted 70 be appointed chairman Of the
cO2nmitt5eg
sengto scburz-If anybody had pro-
posed 20 me 10 So. foot on such move
ment with Evie9 Of making me chair
man OF that committee, l should have
Uld him at once that It could not DO &C
nppiished.
INSTRUMENTATION were sure OF that
haf,rN the debate DegsnT
So or gchurz-Yes. Last spring, when
the reso tuition 10 revive the COMMITTEES
hsd been introduced by Senator Patterson,
I hsppensd 10 drop into 3 group OF sena-
tors DISCUSSING the mater IN tne sehaLS
.banohar and gne Of them who figured
Smong the articuaer friends OF the adj
mfnistrsticn. azi6 tG my face: The COM
miltee was originally organized TO be used
aOaiust Johnson. II We continue II now
Won viii be chsiuOan OF IL by night OF
senicriEy, and, as your relations now are
n wound LOOK like al act hostile TO the
s5miDislrstioo. zCd that wOald not do"
n + Euew-parfsc.ly well that q scheme 70
mi such : committees into my hands, If
had undertaken II, Wodid have
6ssr absolutsiy in vain. / did not think
~ il for q moment, n there was not Inc
last preconcsrt between Trumouu and
myssif as TO the resolution by
MIN. and the debate that happened con
corning il.
CoTTespondsnt-Do you know II Trum-
bnlI FOLD gnybody else Of his ~intentionF
Senstor SshurE-I am positively sure
fh.Nt he had no understanding with any
froa y else when he the resoIu-
lion He has told me 80.
Go--ssunndant-Is there any truth III
ahSTensfs that there has been q differences
sat1een General Grant and yourself SON
-s-1sn- eDpointment5, by which your
Nwopal rSiEtions we're disturDeoT
- - shqI There neYer Wss any
oH ~ .he kint, 1 think my recon-
.a.S atom wens uested by 6enerslorah
Witb : q much c0nstO srstlon As hose ol any
memb " OF the hissCul ueISs
doD5t rNmeubsr o WLSbAeLl efSLHne
1esono v~oepaStion for an once IN my
500 vii bout ths support OF AZ lesSt SeVS-
raj msmbsgs OF thai Cslega-toh' 70
did not, ssa I never Ia auyt tbsV
hs DISSATISFIED - 70 the TT ..@. ~
received. There was b oo-n-
President and myself the least
Vsrsy sbsus al appointment.
Correspondsnt-Did not the Preside.
slaughter a great number Of your political
friends 8 little more than a year sgoG
Senator SchuEz-He removed q number
of oacsrs who had taken part In he lib
srsl movement which resulted in the
election OF Graf Brown; but that was of
course after the apht in Missouri, a il
would be absurd % assume that the split,
and Whist other differences followed, were
the consequences Of the removals. l
never cared much for the patronage any
how, sad j should have been the last man
70 quarrel about IL bad there been any
pro location. The whole story is 6 weak
Invention Of those who, whenever 3 man
criticises the administration, sccredit IL
70 uABdnUDL1AUlb4E IL me Mdkb6L VI
patronage, 80 IS TO throw suspicion upon
his motives.
CorrespOndsnt-Wer you ever in the
habit Of making many recommends
tions7
Senator schurz-I notice that the Times
SAVE that 1 have made As many recon- |
mendatious as any senator within the last
thr g years. i hsys thought OF introduce
ing 9 resolution into the senst calling
upon tbs departments 70 report b re-
Communications had been made by each
senator since the incoming of this Rd-
ADMINISTRATION. Il would be q very inter
sstiBg exhibit, aud it would probably turn
out thst SUNNI 81, TruIobull and 1 have
made lever recommendations than any |
body else during the same time; but. On
the whole, the general table would be an
instructive one.
Correspondent-Do you know anything
OF the investigation conducted by the re-
trenchment committee in the custom
house; 90 you know it has been said 20
have been Uufsir2
Senator Schulz Was not s member Of
the subcommittee that conducted the
cOstomhOuse Investigation, but / know
senator Patterson well enough to yOuch
for the integrity Of his character. and 1
participated in 80 many Of the inVestiRa-
lions Of the retrenchment that
i am sure there never have bsen inyssti-
cations conducted with more impsrtisIity. !
with less personal or partisan bias, or with
. purer purpose TO correct abuses AID W