The New York herald., 1871-11-11
KOSSUTn And HUNGARY.
Interview Of Herald Correspondent
with the Hermit Of Turin.
THE QUESTION OF THE FUTURE.
His Opinions and Recollections Of
the United States.
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The INTERNATIONAL AND CARB0NARl.
Position Of Hungary Between Russian Aggres-
sion and German Ambition.
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DECAY OF THE HOUSE OF HAPSBURG
The Telegraph the Most Invinci-
BILE Of Democrats.
The INTERNATIONAL AND CARBONARI
Position Of Hungary Between Russian Aggres-
sion and German Ambition.
DECAY OF THE HOUSE OF HAPsBURG
The Telegraph the Most Invinci-
BILE Of Democrats.

A. Pesth, In the latter part of September, !
became acquainted with some OF the leading Hun
garian patriots who fought 80 nobly In 1s4S, and
from one OF them obtained letter to Ex-Governor
Louis Kossuth, whom the American people knoY
20 well orator, statesman and one OF the few
loyal republicans IN Europe-one OF the few faithful
to an idea which is neither fashionable pronta-
ble. This morning presented my letter at his
house in this city-a house OF the class best de-
scrlbed as unpretending. was conducted TO the
second moor; q Hungarian servant received my
card and credentials aud In few moments was
shown into the study OF the famous orator.
LOUIS KOssUTH
was seated at o round table, upon which lay strewn
about portions OF manuscript, several books, aud
among them an open volume on bOlany, which
ne appeared to be studying The fittings and
decorations OF the apartment were as SIM
pie and unostentatious as possible. plain
divan, few chairs, life size bust OF Kossuth,
be appeared at the height OF MS career when he
had that peculiar trim OF whiskers and contour OF
face which have been assigned to his traditional
these were about all the noticeable features Of the
room.
As entered the orator rose, extended his hand
and begged Inc to be seated. great change mas
come over this once handsome and brilliant face;
this was my first thought though mad never seen
him IN middle life. His whisKers are now white
and full grown, and his mustache Is naturally
whitened by the same years; his form ls slightly
bent but otherwise apparently vigorous. His voice
u strong, his eye quick and sympathetic and his
nervou action when speaking as emphatic and ex-
Dressive as when he addressed greaL gatherings in
America. In tine, age becomes Kossut tn, and does
not dim even the classical beauty OF his features.
There Is to-day the same irresistible twist to
face, as there must have been years earlier,
when he was royal piece among the political
pawns. He is simply whtened by years and not by
disappointment or chagrin; and ! venture to say
here that II the time ever comes in Europe when his
counsel or cooperation shall be needed, the young
Ideas will be found In that old head vigorous, as
fresh and as fruitful In any gone by Both Victor
Hugo and Garlbaldi arc suggested by Kossuths
present appearance; and did the reader ever re-
mark how close Is the chronological resemblance
among
THE wELL-BALANcED REPUBLICANS
Of the Old WOrld2 Their faces, their heads, their
ogures, their modes OF life, their oratorcal powers
Their ultimate voluntary exile, are all points OF
Smtude: and in their liKenesses they all gravitate
toward Louis Ko5suth, who had, during his active
lfe by far the quickest keenest intellect. and who
In his old aye has become imbued with conserva-
tism which, without impairing MS love for human
liberty, the better speeds it to practical realiza.
ton. kossuth may be taken, believe, as the ablest
republican Of the century. He is a man Of brains,
and the possessor OF mental forces which can
scarcely be found elsewhere on the continent
The majority Of people who partake after long
course OF close culture in the idea that all orators
are cnarlatans are mistaken In Kossutn. He may
have IN fervid moments, overdrawn the wrongs OF
Hungary. He may nave, In his love for his native
land and in declamatOry climax, have used pas
sion more than reason; but he did, time has
changed him. Retirement has brought him conser-
vatism and what, after oil, is conservatism but
publicanism2 Thus, during
HIS TEN YEARS OF LIFE IN TURIN,
he has been student not OF books 80 much as OF
the worlds AFFAIRS. He receives all the Journals:
ne corresponds with many OF the most eminent men
In Europe, and from his conversation I discovered
that he knew daily events well.
Situated, therefore, as he Is In Turin, away from
intrigue, and living In close retirement; no longer
with any political interests at stake believe that
Kossuth's opinions, expressed as he expressed
them to me this morning, are those OF a man who
has woven Europe's social fabric with finer threads
and closer texture than the immediate actors OF the
day, whether they be Bismarck, Beust or Tniers.
AS HE APPEARED.
Kossuth was dressed In u suit OF black and wore
velvet smoking cap on his head. Believing, with
Buwer, that there Is diplomacy In dress, had not
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visiting the PATRIOTS home, aud this, OF course.
had N my hand as took my seat III his study.
But his genial and pleasant manners, his apology
for the humble character OF the apartment ana the
subsequent earnestness ana even warmth OF his
manner told me how mistaken 1 had been in any
estimate had placed upon MS vanity. The Kos.
suth hat might as well nave been chdpedu Ma
poleoa. Tourists who visit Garbaldi sometimes put
on led shirts, have heard, or carry other insignia
10 hatter the italian hero. Indeed, weakness In
this direcuon Is by the pop lar voice ascribed TO
adyocates % @ % Of some arand idea it popular iai.
lacy ] explained to Kossuth that came to see
him, as indeed was indicated In the letter, as q
correspondent OF the HERALD and TO pay my per-
eOnal respects.
Our conversation rambling little, touched as It's
frst point OF interest the condition OF Egypt and
the possibility oil contest with the Sultan.
EGYPT.
IN TurSey ana Egypt. They tell me the Khedive Is
RO-ahead kind of O man; that he has inaugurated
parliamentary form Of government; tnat is sop
CORREsPONDKNT-1n a measure, yes He tried to
ret up an opposition, but the opposition would not
vote against his measures.
Kossuth laughed and said 1t was sign OF the
times. l referred 10
HIS EARLY VISIT TO TIE UNITED STATES.
KossuTn with signl1Yes r II IS now m, more d than
COM ort 1t IS to me to remember the United states
America is the nucleus OF democracy. Now you are
co. 600 600 OF inhabitants; in lty sixty or one hum
dred years you will number zoe, 100000 OF people.
What power such an aggregated republicanism
Will represent; what an influence IT Will disseminate
over the earth (ano here Kossutn became declama-
tory and really eloquent, and l could well measure
the character OF his matchless oraofy oi lS4sl. Cu
fure and refinement extending among your masses
material prosperity overshadowing the feeber civil
hzation OF the 0lden form, whole continent for
your free household, can Europe resist the example
OF such a grand realization No, my dear Sir, you
have domain spreading from ocean 10 ocean, and
upon this tract you have tried The experiment Of sell
government and 1t has been an unqualined sue
cess. What must be the influence OF such
Srepuolic In Europe. II Will be either 10 put her
Anead or retard her advancement. The world does
not fetrograde now. The world does not stand still.
MeasuIe then. what will be the Outgrowth OF an
Impulse which represents
fhb LbERTY OF TWO HUNDRED MILLIONS 0P
,,, PEOPLE.
Yes indeed we are coming to the final "break.up,"
ns You gay on the other slde OF the water.
BOOn9 VS.
KossUTh tearing on cigarette leaf and filing
IL with tobaccob-I hardly know. IL NAV occur to.
morrow as y we're; 1t may not for q century. Blu.
come II mus
CORREsPo ENr-And the resuita
kOssUTH republic everywhere-not a ITO
plan republic. There Is no such thing. But prac.