The New York herald., 1871-01-13


sical organization, because the extension OF the
suffrage would be avelse TO the interests OF the
duce IN the marriage relation fruitful element OF
dlscord, increasing the already alarming prevalence
OF divorce throughout the land.
Mr.. EDMUNDs said whle many OF the signers were
not known throughout the country as attendants
upon pohtcal conventions, but rather for their
Eecuon with works ol charity ana benevolence he
thought IL safe TO say they represented very large
element OF American women. FROM personal obser-
yaton he knew that they spoke for nine-tenths OF
the people Of Vermont. - -
agreed M sns Dsa Of est ss RE nsmos %
srants. He held that the ballot mad given character
ana dignity to laboring men, and thar II would in
sure like benefit and protection to women. lie was
showed they were awake 10 the subject. he was
sorry their reasons weY not better than they were.
The paper was then referred to the Judiciary Com
mittee.
RESOLUTIONS ADOPTED.
Resolutions were offered by Mr.. RAMSEY calling
upon the Postmaster General for any information he
may have in reference TO the amount Of Tree matter
| transmitted through the mails. Adopted.
by Mr.. SAWYER. rep OF 5. C.-Directing the
Secretary OF the Treasury to inform the senate
what states ana Territories have fully paid their re.
act OF Congress OF August 1857 what States and
| Territories have failed IN such payment the
why aps not RsS%s msas as sss sn
what efforts are being made with view to the COL
OF Of sas x also whether the ac
commissioners appointed under the act OF
1862, have been adjusted. and what is the
III insurrection, which, under the operation OF the
act OF ls62, and amendatory acts has come into the
possession of the United states. Adopted.
THE LOUISVILLE CANAL APPROPRIATION.
The House joint resolution approprating $3.50. 900
ior continuing the work on the Louisville and Port
land Canal, aud S3ilooo for the completion OF the
Des Moines rapids, wac received from the House.
Mr. CHANDLER, trepl OF Mich, moved to refer 1t
to the Committee on Commerce, remarking that he
| was opposed to making distinction In favor OF
these improvements as against all others embraced
in the River ana Harbor Appropriation bill TO be
/ reported IN about four weeks,
MI. HARLAN, trep.l OF Iowa, upon the Importance
rapids, stated that If me empankment was not
riprapped at once the spring freshets would wash
| Messrs. SHERMAN, HOWELL, MORTON and KELLOGG
| favored The immediate passage OF the appropria-
tions, when Mr.. CHANDLER's motion was rejected
anu the Joint resolution passed.
INDIAN DEPREDATIoNS.
On motion OF Mr. Ross, pep.) OF KAN, the House
Dill ior commission 10 investigate the claims aris-
ing from the depredations committed by upon the
Indians In Kansas was considered.
| MI. Ross explained that the bill did not contem-
claims TO be submitted TO Congress before dollar
was paid out: The bin was passed as amended TO
extend to Nebraska.
BILLS INTRODUCED.
Mr. PATTERSON introduced bills allowing crim-
SolunDla, and relative TO the Reform School Of the
District. Referred.
THE TRUMBULL CIVIL SERVICE BILL
The Senate then resumed the consideration OF Mr..
Irumbuu's bil 10 relieve congressman from impor-
tunity and to preserve the independence OF the
eral departments OF the government
MIR, MORTON said the reform contemplated by the
bill was OF the spurious kind; that much cheap pop
vice reform. many writers and speakers the sub
lect scarcely understanding what was meant by 1t.
The aDuse OF the civil service had been grossly eXag
gerated particularly in the speech OF the chairman
OF the Judiciary Committee, Mr.. Trumbull. lie was
nn 70 near the charge Of
when the 1act was well known that cases COrrup-
on In y hgn places any existed We're the exce
raj rule could apply to which there were excep.
tlons The Senator t1rumbulll thought the govern
ment could be run better without the poticians.
But his system was an imposslbity. 1t would re-
gnire the perfection Of human nature. Plato's
be realized. Appointments to ONCE, ire
specyes s Tse Of poss as system would
not in nower hnt nnt omeni oyer ,%e %e1 whe
been alleged by Mr. Trumbull that there were in
the departments more than twice as many clerks as
were needed to do the business The inference
from this would be very injurious to the admnistra.
ton, as indicating that it was rotten and corrupt.
Mr.. MORTON submitted that 1t was not true; that
III no event could the assertion be substantiated as
to more than hve per cent OF the alleged number.
evidence for his assertion he was bound to let the
country have it, in order that the men who counte i
hahced Ine employ yment OF useless onicials Night be
held responsible by the country ane condemned BY
the people
Mr.. TRUMBULL reminded Mr.. Morton that in con-
nectlon with the, statement referred to he had
stated at the time his authority for the report OF
secretary Cox late OF the Interior Department. He
would now give the Senator another authOrity-the
Senator from OHIO (Mr. Sherman)-whose state
ment at the last session. If not that there twice
as many clerks was certainly that there were MANY
more than were required by the departments TO
perform the duties. II the Senator (Morlon)
Iowa tHarlan), who at one ume presided one OF
the departments, an answer would doubtless, be
given.
Mr.. NYE inquired whether the number OF depart-
ment clerks was not limited by law.
;. Mr.; TRuMBULL believed there was regulation by
law but there was nothing TO prevent the occasional
increase OF the force by Congress.
MIR. NYE thought sufficient remedy was to be had
IN SPECIFIC limitation OF the number
MIR. TRUMBULL abiding to the penalty OF i'm.
prlsonment imposed by the bill upon congressman
soliciting appointments, said he thought his friend
Nye would be able to keep out OF the Penitentiary
He had Kept out thus far; daughter.
Mr. NYE replied that his apprehension was not for
himself but for the distinguished Senator from ILL
nois, who had probably recommended twice as
many appointments as any other Senator.
had almost entirely abstained from any recommen-
datons
retary Of the Interior had acquired considerable
reputation In this matter OF civil service REFORM and
referred to an article in the North american Reciec
as subsantlatlng his assertion that that gentleman
had set uD for himself superior morality on this
point. He had claimed to tnaugurate reform, in
OF resignation by the politicians but the inference
was that during his official tenure he acted up to
dictate an appointment. Now, the facts las shown
from the records) were, that upon that genteman's
assumption Of his ONCE there were $50 clerks
In the Interior Department, and when he left 1t
therefore, according to Mr. frumbuil, there Were Were
twice as many clerks there as were needed, and but
one less than the number when the Secretary left.
Unlike MIR. Cox, Secretary Boutwell,, without any
special pretensiOns to civil service reform, had
duced the force under him In the same time some
400 or 500.
Mr.. MORTON proceeded further in vindication Of
the department clerks from what he called the
grossly unjust charge Of Mr.. Trnmbull tnat large
portion Of them were useless and incompetent
He claimed that the public business was
now discharged VERY creditabiy, and argued
TO show the impossibility Of maintaining in the
face Of our free institutl0hs' the life tenure
bureaucratic" systems Of Prussia and England.
The only effect OF doing away with the system Of
recommendations for ONCE instead OF diminishing
the crowd OF ONCE seekers would be to compel ap.
plcants either to visit Washington transact their
business through Office brokers. The politicians
could not be dispensed with without changing the
character or the government, and enabling public
officials 10 turn deaf ear to the entreatles Of those