The States and Union. [volume] (Ashland, Ohio) 1868-1872, 1871-08-23
rCorrsspopdence of the N. Y. sun1

ST LOUIS, Mo-, July ID.
! Your correspondent had the honor
of dining yesterday side by side with
Governor b. Gratz Brown, of Nilsson
ri, and this morning enjoyed the pleas.
ure of conversation with that gen.
tleman. Having informed the Gov
ernor that the intention of the Sun
man was to obtain a brief synopsis Of
his views on the state of the country,
he Immediately signifed his willing
ness to be interviewed.
Sun Reporter-Gover how does
| Grant stand in the West?
Governor-W ell, sir, about the
same, think, that he does in the
East; to make use of Andy Johnson's
favorite expression, we consider him
assdead duck" and his administration
an utter failure.
Sun Reporter-In what respect do
you consider Grants administration a
failure2
Governor-General Grant has dis
graced himself and injured the country
by appointing his whole family and all
his personal friends to fill the most
important offices. These men are, il
nine cases out of ten, wholly incom-
petent to perform the duties devolving
upon them, and in great number OF
cases have turned out robbers and de-
faulters, as in the cases of Collector
Bailey and General Lawrence. He
has, moreover, snubbed and insulted
the really smart men of the country,
and set them aside to make way for
West Pointers. He himself is but a
poor, weak tool in the hands of 9th
ers.
GRANT REPUDIATED.
Sun Reporter-When you ran for
Governor last year, upon what plat
form did you take your stand--Grant
or anti Grant?
Governor-I was nominated as
conservative Republican. l advocated
the granting of a general amnesty. L
believe that the time has come Tor US
to try and heal up past differences be-
tween both sections Of the country,
and endeavor once more to live in
harmony. 1 obtained the Democratic
vote, and by that means carried the
State by twenty thousand majority,
where it had previously gone ten thou
sand the other way. [ repudiated
Grant entirely.
Sun Reporter-The Grant stock
must be at discount in the State Of
Missouri
Governor-Ata q discount Why,
sir, he is as dead as door-nail, so far
as his denomination or reelection is
concerned.
Sun Reporter-Well, Governor, do
you think that he will be recominated
in 1872.
Governor-That is n question I am
not prepared to answer positively
So far as l can understand at present,
1 believe that Grant is doing all he
can to obtain denomination. Wheth-
er he succeeds or not remains to be
seen. I, for one, hope that the Re-
publican party will Iot disgrace them
selves by SO doing. And if he is
nominated, 1 do not think it will
make any material difference. did
vote for him. I can assure you | will
never commit such a blunder again.
GRATZ BROWN BELIEVES IN THE NEW
DEPARTURE.
Sun Reporter-Governor, in what
light do you look at the '.New Depar'
ture" of the Democracy !? Do you
believe in the sincerity OF their declar-
ations, to abide by the Constitution as
it is, and eccept the Fourteenth and
Fifteenth Amendments
Governor-Yes, sir, I do believe in
the sincerity of the Democratic party,
so far as regards their adherence to
the new platform they have placed
before the country. I tell you, sir,
the masses of the people are determin-
ed on having a departure of some kind;
it don't make any difference what it
is, SO that it advocates a change: In
my opinion matters cannot he much
worse, and I think that change will
prove advantageous. moreover be-
lieye that tho Democratic party are as