Wilmington journal. [volume] (Wilmington, N.C.) 1844-1895, 1871-03-10

Il QOub bnlHk the OOVernOr asked mo TO
publish in view of the election. He ex-
amined 1t before it was published. Gen
eral Douglas brought it TO him from the
Motel. L don't recollect that was present
when he examined it. / made an altera-
ton after. by adding the last section
was in General Douglas room when |
wrote it. He was present. I afterwards
| became of counsel for the Governor in
connection wish the Caswell and Alamance
| matters. [ was with Messrs. BaiIy, Boy
den and Badger. l did some clerical ser
vice. L perhaps wrote GifidaVits of per
sons In AIamance who wished to Withdraw
! from the order. L did not suggest the ar
rest of any one. l was first employed after
the election. L don't know that / was en-
| ployed to hunt up evidence, but under
stood l was to do all Ill order to succeed in
the investigations thea going on before
| the Justices OF the Supreme Court. l
| don't know that L was very active. L de-
manded $500. L only got $3.50. It was
| paid out OF the public treasury. After
wards L offered to replace it to the treasury.
L did this because / knew the newspapers
! would publish me about it, and had been
| published about enough. I did not think
| that hadn't earned it,
+ q Your conscience was not easy, then :?
| y. Perfectly easy. l never saw the
Governor myself, but got Mr.. ". A. Smith
| to see him, and the Governor refused to
have it back [ thought my services were
| worth $500. / did not examine any wit
| nesses made no argument before the court,
only filled some warrants. In my CONVEX
sation with the Governor. don't recoilect
| that politics III Alamance were mentioned.
| Politics and the approaching election may
have been discussed by us. Thcic was
something said about it.
q. Don't you know, sir, that the effect
OF yonr letter on the public mind was dis
cnssed 10y you and the Governor ?
A. 1t might have been. Since tho CX-
| animation before the Justices last Summer,
L emit say have been very active III be
ha'f OF the Governor. j have recently been
to Washington before tho Outrage Com
mlttec, not particularly in the Governors
behalf. L stayed there some two weeks af-
ter was examined. I stayed in n room in
the Capitol with Mr.. J. Holden, bnt did
not examine with css; I suggested some
questions to be put to certain Witnesses
These suggestions of mine were sent down
to the committee by Mr.. Joe Holden [
was III the Office with Mr. joe Holden every
day. Ihe witnesses were examined there
before they were sent to the committee.
dld not stay there in the interest of the
Governor, but in my own. NY object was
to Justify the course 7 had taken, by sug-
8estlnG questions 10 witnesses. and mako
them tell the truth as have done. [ paid
part OF my cxpenses-Col. Sam. T. Car
row and Mr.. Joe Holden advanced me
some money. was not paid for services.
In the Spring of 1869, Mr. Long, Mr.. Bason
and myself discussed the propriety of dis
solving the White Brotherhood. The order
was formally dissolved in tho Spring OF
1869, and after that we no longer had an
order there.
Q. Did you attend a meeting of the Ku-
hlux IN which 1t was proposed and by
you, that the Ku-KluX should attend po-
lltlcal meetings, secure the appointment Of
officers SO that they could control tho pro
ceedings
A. L think stated something of the !
kind. [ proposed that the organization
should control the politics of the county. |
The object was to control the nominations |
thereby securing all the Offices We were
not to let the public generally know that. |
(Atter considerable equiVocatiOn, the wit !
ness acknowledged the proposition vas |
lost, but could not recolIcct howl While /
was candidate I did not tell the people /
L was Ku-Klux.
q. You say that Mr.. Long told You, tho /
Monday after stephens body had been /
found, that few days before that Mr.. :
Dickie had told him that provision had |
been made to kill Stephens
A. Yes sir.
q. / ask you, did not the Chief Justice
ask you this question last summer: "Have |
you heard any of your khan say anything
about the death of Stephens ?"
A. [ think not. I don't recollect that I |
was questioned about Stephens at ak
q. ask if the Chief Justice did not put /
that question to you, and if you did
not answer ''No"?
~ ] don't recolIcct. IT the Chief Jus
ticc did put that question to nue., and |
answered mo-" certainly did not tell the
!, XNy--
tico. / did BOT think to tell Of this while
the. investigation was going OH last sum-
mer. In the meeting i'll January I acted
in good faith III Introducing the resolu-
tlonS. | believe all the others did
l believe all who attended tho meetings
to denOunce the ShOf1'ner bill, and the
hanging of Outlaw We're in good faith. /
had the conversation with Mr.. bradshaw
about killing Outlaw about Two weeks be-
fore he was hung
NJ. Merrimon then handed witness an
oath, and asked if that WAS not the ono
Long administered.
Answer. It is so far as it goes. | think
there WAS more of the explanation.
q. Has that got the provisions iii it
about false verdicta, &c?
A. No sir.
Q. What is omitted
q. did not say it was Ia the oath. 7
ooAA AZ was Ill VIC OttIu 6AJldUIUIOu. i
inferred from the oath or explanation
which took that such would be the case.
O. You swore before this in brackets
III will not give States evidence against
D member, y was in the oath 2.
A. / said i'll the oath or explanation +
inferred that that was required of Nom
bers.
Red Eye Albright told me that the pris--
Oners were to be tried, and if convicted,
punished. I can't say about hanging or
shooting, nor can I say that he said Dolf
Moore or others would be convicted and
shot.
The outrages upon Outlaw, Puryear,
Holt and others were committed after tho
botween Mr.. Long and my
self, in the spring of 1863, relative to dis
banding the order. Mr. Long stated soon
after that conversation, that he had called
a meeting of tho chiefs, and the order had
been disdanded.
Here Mr.. Boyden handed witness the
ORIGINAL mannscrink of hiG latter nubIiGha6