Wilmington journal. [volume] (Wilmington, N.C.) 1844-1895, 1871-04-14

ment, Mr.. Pool said, in substance about
this: Governor, you do not know how
they are talking about sou in Washington.
The Kepuolcans thefe say you are fail
ure, aud Grant says that you aud Smith.
of Alabama were made Governors of States
by the Republican party under the rec N
struction acts, and that you are sitting
still and permitting these Ku klux to take
them away from you, or cause them TO sip
away from you"
There was meeting the next day at
which only the Governor, John Pool and
myself were present. Somebody suggest
ed the appointment of Col Clarke who
was IN the city. Col Clarke vas sent for.
and after persuasion, agreed to accept the
command. / concuIred.
Qu stion-Who invi,el you to the co.,
terence IN the exec'ive Office .-s
Auswer-l was invited by the Governor.
| Questlon-State as near as you can tho
re atlve positions of the Governor. John
Pool, yourself aud any other persons you
cannot rccoIect =?
Answer-Just previous TO the time when
Mr.. Pool recommended his military plan.
he had been standing, conversing witt,
somebody, Mt the southeast window. The
Governor was either in his chair or walk
ing up and down the room, between
where his chair sat and the sub division
between the southern windows, and I was
sitting on the sofa near the southwestern
window, or near tho Governors chair.
Question-What was Mr.. POOLS manner?
Answer-My impression from his mum
ner was, that Mr.. Pool meant what he
said until his proposition met with disfavor;
and then be varied his manner so as to in
duce the belief that he had been testing.
Question Please state what was your
inference, from the language of Mr.. Pool,
before his plan met with disfavor, of the
= j.. -
Answer-I thought Lindsay determined
villain, capable of taking life at the in
stance of superior without question. I
drew the inference from Mr.. Pools state
ment, and that was my reason for de-
nouncing it as infamous.
Question-Did Mr. Pool suggest the az
rest of any parties. by name, or did he
suggest the arrest of prominent gentlemen
of the Conservative party in the State
Answer cannot say, from my own re
collection, with absolute certainty, that he
did, and I am disincIined to believe
that he did. have an jndietinct idea OF
something of the kind, but think it must
have come from the newspapers which L
constantly read.
Queston-Had you ever heard, until
Mr.. Pool made the statement Of the parti.
cular acts which Mr.. Pool said Gov. Clay
ton had performed in Arkansas +?
AusWcE-J ddl uOl. QaQ IL CUDluSeu
notion from the telegrephic accounts of
newspapers, 10 which paid little attention,
such things being common, that Governor
Clay ton WAS undertaking military move
mept against certain ions of ArEan.
sas.
Questionable you understand mr.. Pool
to approve and recommend to Gov. Hol
den the conduct of Gov. Clayton
Answer L did. My understanding was
that ubnn no raloto1 no Ciov
ton had done, he intended that it should
be followed by Governor Holden.
Queston-Did Mr.. Pool, in that CONVEX
sation, give Governor Holden Gen. Grants
opinion of Clayton ?
Answer am not certain that he did,
but he did use Grants name in connec-
ton with Governor Clayton and Governor
Smith CT Alabama.
Question-Have you had any conve rsa-
ton or communication with the other par
ties who were present, who corroborate
your statements if 80, who are the par
ties
Answer have converted with Col
VIM. j. Clarke in regard TO this mattert
and he said, though he had no distinc,
recollection of the specific conversation,
he did recolect that many violent propo-
sitions were made, but none adopted. j.
II. Harris told me, in front OF the Court
House in this city, in tho fall of 1870, that
in that meeting, Mr.. John Pool made some
propositions, of which his recollection
was not distinct, of very violent charac
ter, and said something about closing
men," or that she had man who would
lose men" 1 have had q conversation
with D. A Jenkins, who denies being
present at at the time also with I. j.
Young, who agrees substantially with the
facts as l have stated them, and with
Governor Holden, who also agrees with
the facts as 1 have stated them.
Question-When Senator Pool spoke of
resistance did you understand it as re-
lating solely to instances Of hat kind. or
rather that he would dispose of men in
such a way as to relieve Governor Holden
of the odium and responsibility of such
things?
Answer thonght both from the first
ugRestion-that lie, Lindsay, would do #
in either case, and render courts martial
unnecessary. He afterwards qualified it,
but not until it had met with the disap-
proval of nearly every person present in
that part of the room. He then qualified
it as have stated it, 10 my examination
in chief.
Questionable you infer from the con
duct of the Governor when the proposititn
was made by Pool as stated that his i'm
preston was the same as yours
Answer 50 inferred, and further that
he disapproyed Of 1T
Question-What is your best impression
as to who the man was who, after Pool
had spoken Of Lindsay, said he could fur
nish sixty or one hundred men of like
calibre, and what were their remarkable
exploits
Answer-My best impression is that d.
a. jenkins, the Treasurer, made the sug
gestiOn, and made it in an excited manner.
Indeed, know that Jenkins made the re-
mark, and am in doubt only as to time,
as he might have made it on some eubse
quent occasion or meeting in the executive
| Office at which the matter was alladed to,
have forgotten what the exploits were,
but great deal of gascoDsde was INDUCED
in in the way of description.
Question-In any of the conve rsatiOns
between Pool, Holden any yourself, was
any reference made to the effect on tho
coming election ?
Answer-That was not the subject of
the conversation. 1t related to the out
RACES, though the election may have been
alluded to incidentally, aud / think IL was