New-York tribune., 1871-11-17
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4, VOICE OF TIM BAR.
!. svvvrRs ooNrRsa TtJRHaEIyEs GAGGED

ondt oS some NewYork Judges you do the bar injus-
t,ce when YOU accuse them Of lacking courage to com
plain. &c"
assert that lawyer who should come oHt and state
under his name whathe knows about the abuses
you refer 70 could not successfully practice law IN our
courts WITHOUT being daily subject tOnsSs ana ON S,arytc
S5Sy hs STSc S1sps'' would Ss s' utssTy
there hsES hardly %s%se nsspcss - sae sSsn @
your oosition IN fullest mariner. Now my o9sct IN
sstS y ESs a. and @ clients make
Known 20 the public what they know en- tails sneectt M
azure be s you s1rS SonsSny under the injustice which
they have TO submit nom tnat source anu WHICH, o'
dare not publicly expose. H|A'
Ner. York, Nov i6 1871,
TwEED's DIPLOMA.
70 IN, Editor Of The Tribune.
SIR: You might have added in your article
or Feferea Lawyers" that the Law School that
ground out Tweed an L. B. IN the Class OF 1881 also pro-
dueed Michael J. shandlsy and Moses D. Gale shandey
never attended the lectures. The latter was sSd oy
Prof. W to have received private nstructiSSn, Is
he AIMED IN the Glass OF a. from the fact that ne was
never present at the class meetings nor scteu IN any S
pscty other than sgning diplomas recommenueo oy he
PTOfessor-not Professors.
NeU-YOrk Nov. lS, lS7l'
FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLAR FEE.
To the Editor Of The Trfbpne.
SIR: In response to the request as to the par
culars of abuses In Referee cases viii state one that
happen to know of. In the Tueknr PARTITION suit
wherein Mesms Smith and Woodward were counbei lor
plaintiR and Varnum and Turney counsel for ah
or nearly all the deiendants, tho late Judge Bon
nav was appointed Referee TO take proof OF ute
ascertain rights and interests Of parties. &c. &C Tns
inquiry was very long and complicated ana JuoBe
Bonney's fee was think. ESQ., On applying Tor Juog
nent to Justice Ingraham the counsel on ootn SaeS
requested that Judge Bonney be apPonsa EeiSSe 10 o 70
IL fha m
article the papers were transferred to J9stice
barnard enc request ASa t1 - thon@b
vevy valuable, did not consist OF many pieces. dhe
des wsre merely ana Waan rreS vet
SSy' q go1Hs Hs SEsns scSg. %sG. o
my Own Ms:s yIEnS ana r .TS TsTnsy 1SS
fession and OF high standing Allow me to say Snx r
your article does injustice to Justice pS6 RSeres Les and
PSsss ss iSSS fSS%F6S aad
Tosenh T Marin was at :One time Justice CaruoLos
taEoIi.e a. Is - notor,,on LAWYER
Nes0- York, Nov. 1R. 1871.
THE CAREER OF A LAWYERS CLERK
70 ne EdtIor Of The Tribune.
SIR: Your article in this mornings paper
headed Referee Lawyers Is making great senSatlOn'
and Is lust the thing for this season OF REFORM Every
lawyer at the bar knows that the Referee business as 1t
has been conducted In this city one Of the most out
rageous systems Of fraud ever perpetrated In commu
nity-civniEed or barbarouS. No wonder that young
lawyer trying make his way the profession honestly
matter how good case he has or now wen ne % nay Con
duct It. his opponent in the ring ana with Judge
"a Referee against him. what can he dot Clients wiz
go where they are sure Of success hence the large
business Of certain lawyers VINO "noW nOW ~ s
Of this matter and not let up until Referee Lay
yers" are no more Among your ust OL w. ~
%esd TSS so Is the son Of the Boss Assistant District
Attorney ana Supreme Court Referee Edlesten, three
OF Sc sGur yt their Oes at No. Al BrOsdway marx the
cosy furniture, carpets &c. and then be more con-
pcss n sast Ss Ts
short time syyers clerk now ktssps 9iS nShss car
These S "0 young men have placer IN the Referee
Is the PEysr that IS 65nss the
Netc- York, Nov. Is, 1s71.
A NEEDED WORK OF REFORM.
TO the Editor Of TIE Tribune.
SIR: The article Of to-day, entitled Referee
Lawyers" Of great interest to the bar and to the
entire community who TO keep tempe OF Justice
pure and undehed that the writer, for one, cannot
forbear to speak in commentator OF it, To
such depth OF degradation have courts
sunk, that they have become simply the
channels through which judicial "pap" is dispensed
TO class Of persons who 10 have ability to pro-
cure more honorable means Of sustenRnce It is Wen
understood that the method Of dspensAon pointed out
in your article Is only one Of several BY which the courts
judicial eFmine, Another method found under section
IA Of the Code OF Procedure which Offers splendid
Gins are committed under Its sanction win one day, not
far distant be shown In all their agravatng character
in aryg at the precise facts Of any particular case Is
attributable TO the other facts that the judges, their
T6Sss aence ON S at large potent for nufy
safety confront No lawyer afford TO tell his own
record and thus identifying himself with them, lest his
practice become beset With difficulties that would be
vent Wong for client in most q the courts Of this
city This not always silcnt but always certain innu
ence exercised from the bench makes itself felt to
the dStrment and often absolute loss Of the rights OF
ciieu and defeat Of the attorney at every step by
or prevent ana no appeal correct For this reason no
person named by any Justice 90 referee no matter bow
TO and no fee however monsrous charged by such
referee, be disputed with safety either 20 the attOr
ney or 70 tee client whose Interests snS attorney
and the utmost caution. The telling OF the
truth In respect to th matter wOud heretofore have
The words OF your article bold Wordshty spoken;
now let the public mind abate not particle Of its inter
don shaI be nSiy and eGectaaly accomplished when
this work done the kindred system Of Receivershps
ting e %SoS yS
Rudes Indeed the old proyefb "the Receiver u bad
IS the tier has Of late By judicial cOn1iyance and col
an application lesS palpablc and perfect than unoo
pmen thae creature Of the court and lsecd ct the
The abuses complained Of are not chargeabe upon all
the Justices Of the Courts Of this district but are pac
nation ofa community q whom may be pEedicased SS
proven by the ballot 81 the fA nst that they love Jus
tGs more & in,n nv weelsn place. or pSTeEE; v.,,.v,O
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