New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1871-08-07
FOREIGN MISCELLANY.
,,,y TEMPORAL. POWER OF THE POPE.

| SPEECHES or THEIRS, THE BISHOP OF OR
| IEANS AND GAMBETfA.
On the POD of July II very exciting debate
tool, n,ce IN tho French National Assembly on tho que6.
Uo ., interference on behalf Of the temporal powor Of
n po,e Two reporters read the reports OF committees
-, sets of petitions whose combined request IL Is
ogrced 10 call the "Bishops' Petition" although IN
mint of fact but very small minority OF the French
cniscopacy took part in the movement. THO reporters
entirely echoed tho spirit Of tho petitions, and IN an
,,c,uou4 emphatic tone spoke OF the Pope as a
pri-oncr" in the vatican While protesting against Che
sno,tion and tramplng on treaty rights involved in Inc
| occnpatou OF Rome by Victor Emanuel, the reports
said they did not wish for TO redress The wrong but
| only for the utmost influence OF France.
The Bishop OF Orleans when called on o. speak. gave
precedence to Mr. Theirs. who spoke us follows:
81 have not 20 di-ayOw any OF my former opinions
have preserved them all But you too sensible no. to
understand that there are great interests which, NJ
Given moment you serve best by silence On some Occ1
sions have severely blamed my country, and we must
all recognize that II - tho fault Of orr nation 10 be 100
often under the yoke of the opinions Of the moment
| When in France opinion rises up. scarcely anybody
resist II. Every day we have an example, fl,1
example the result of the ideas Of the moment. We
have abandoned the secular tradition OF France ms
abandonment il punished to-day by cruel reycrs"s. ITO
Thought was the work Of Horny ~, the most winning Of
statesmen that ever existed; OF Iclclcl tht gtct nll
Of the laws 81 France; Of Mazlrin nc Sr, 5tdtohl
| who made the peace and the admirable treaty OF
| TO give means OF safety in this equilibrium
! it was rcGsiablished, AMI In place Of military
S" 6cD , in po4iIo6 TO rule the World Franco was
placed in Europe Prussia and Austria 10 pre-
was placed in the world between England and Russia, 70
prevent those two Powers Of such magnitude from over
cuar rule Well, then, il is thi' equilibrium which IN
Of folly, have all contributed to destroy Ihe
IN proclaim that Of the natOnalite and the system OF
natlonalics has succeeded IN preparing for France natal
having wished to become united Power 1t Is not the
less true that was an error IN France to have conrDI
taIf IN fip mint nf
than anybody, contributed 10 destroy TINS eGuil-
brium which assured Influence. To act thus was for
France in truth. senseless and blind. have always
fato d1y To- France In he frat place was certain that
Italian unity would cngender one day the UNITY Oh Ter
I'm the second place II was impossible that Italian unity
should give fatal blow 10 the religious conscience
represented by the Holy See. Thus France. which IN
the same way England is the protector OF Protestant,
ism has been since Charles " the natural protector Of
CathOlicity, has abandoned her MISSION me question:
tlsk before which YOU would rcco yourselves for the
actual circumstances it might cease to be patriotic.
Italy Is made IL Is not VINO nave c0hilOa'eu 70 aAe
it. but let speak plainly. what DO you
want to do, and do you want to lc lead
into war; Italy has become powerful STATE
with the support Of Russia since tho Poniifca Govern
ment. in moment of generous but perhaps unrcleGtnS
enthusiasm touched upon thG f0llsh l'eyIl9l' h}n
at Austria she also j. Catholic Power wei Shc IN
like manner, guided by the wisdom of an eminent man,
Prussia seeks the Alps To approach Italy MY con
c0muLcd facts But when Europe maintains that atti-
tudc toward Italy. with which you are acquainted can
my position. and do not ask OF me a pOllcy "hcn WOulu
not be- consistent because could not push it 10 its
thoughts of q future No. the Government has not
this though The policy OF the Goycmment which
FORGET that in our distress he Nhe Pope consecraed
portion the Peters Pence to the wounded OF France
have Nprcsscd to him the gratitude OF all France but
have not written the letter which has been attributed
10 me- have not offered any advice to the Sovereign
POnf subject 50 grave as lhat 81 me mlltIill
conditions OF hi. independence. II Piu' TX were prS
0ner an exile France would he open to him but we
guard ourselves from giving advice to the mos Feiel-
Catholic Power by Concordai, and ought TO be
very glad oft for The Power which are nor thus 32uo
have frequent conflicts WIN lhe ,ouIt 81 TOM,
We nave been promised The indspcndGnGs nG,esy to
this independence will be really tact IN which catholic
Europe can have confidence Meantime all the Catholic
-c may not bc a vain word. InwSt this care 20 orr
patriotism; and now, Scncmen let me resume my yle"s,
wish to raise any conflict bur We VIII do an that de
ponds 20 maintain the spiritual INDEPENDENCE of the
Holy see do not promise YOU get all difficulties
successfully; but this can promise YOU that We Gov
cHmcnt ~ reason, Will not ncSlecta any Oh the dutc'
] which reason imposes upon US
Mon.ignor Dupanoup followed ". Theirs beginning
his speech by expressing IA, thanks to the CHI OF tine
Executive Power for his dcty 10 the cause Of tie Tenn
pori Power. He also declared his acceptance or the
uo.ition taken M by NJ Theirs lie then went thus:
LONG speeches are hernappropraic and do not de
sire tu make speech. But, after the words You nave
l- heard there j. only one orator who can be heard
that orator is history the present moment Dllnss " 10
tho anniversary NJ the day on which man. with light
our disasters What has since happcncdi As you know,
ontihcal sovereignty became The first victim OF the
lults OF the Imperial Government II Is just that
the prelatcs should address France in favor OF the hottest
Of causes. In fa when human justice suffers any Where
10 b. 10 France t3 ucu apply, ana II i TO the hohOr
Of France that this appeal il made to-day, because
our eondr3 Nee IL hrr nSr o pSf , war;
aud throw back on the caiunniatorS this repr0acI,
with which impudently lying they have pursued us.
Wgr-ye have seen it, horrors close beside and
priests detcst il. Thanks be to God force Is not every
thing; and ii not in this conquered country alone That
this word gains for itself hearing II j. published in
Prussia herself. In hi, Prussia, 50 naughty great mind
but rather" Tp yici0iiJis" Every Christian nation
the Pope the key Of the vault winch secures the liberty
OF minds and cOnsCicnces. Can YOU imagine situation
more mournlu than that of the old man Who is priS
onean the Vatican, surrounded on all sides by the lt2
iaus! II is impossible that IS centuries Of greatness aud
benefits should making the successor OF Peter the
chaplain, more OF les, badly paid OF Victor Emanuel
NJ Gambctla, whose appearance in the tribune pro
dlced a great sensation and profound silence, as when
NJ Theirs goes to speak, said:
have bnt two or three words 10 say ana was going
10 take the liberty, IN order TO spare the time OF ihe
House. 10 say them from my place when was called
here An order OF the gay, tropG,fa Dy NJ Marcel
deaf aud patriotic sentiments expressed by the Chief of
Vac Executive Power passes 10 the order OF the day. en-
tirey expresses sentiments and those of my friends.
therefore support it," The petitions were referred to
that Prudence and Patriotism were To preside at the
consideration.
TIE MEANING THE VOTE OF THE BISHOPS PETITION.
The Temps in an article noting the gradual decay Of
the temporal power represents that 1t received It's coup
de grace July % from NJ. Theirs
Victor Emanucl's Government j. installed az Rome;
but that is enough The vengeance of logic not
satisfied. \ funeral Grafton the corpse of the
ilustriOus deceased wanting, and that is what
heard yesterday from the lips OF the lustrouS statesman
who more loudly than any other IN Europe, had pro
claimed the necessity OF maintaining the temporal
pOwcr-the orator who NJ time hravcly sacrificed
his popularity in the defense Of the P1pal cause Who
does not remember those. speeches in which, by
force Of eloquence and, IL must be added, OF
subtety, VI. Theirs attempted 10 prove that liberty of
conscience could not exist unless the Pope tenn
poral sovereign And now NJ Theirs in his character of
Chief OF the French Republic appears In the tribune To
declare that the annexation OF Rome 10 the Kingdom Of
Italy l. accomplished fact not 10 be nterfrrcd with,
and that the religious independence OF the Pope he
only defend it far the crippled resources Of