The Charleston daily news. [volume] (Charleston, S.C.) 1865-1873, 1871-06-02
.rFfom the Hew York Herald.l

LFfon the EeT York Herald.l
The condition OF the Southern States under
| the rnie Of the Radicals being the absorbing
question of home policy, and the ntterances o
| Southern men OF position and influence con
corning The future Of those States being espe
cially important al. this juncture, q Herald re-
Porter was yesterday dispatched to the Crane
! Hotel. on Broadway, where Mr.. Orr, Governor
| of South Carolina under Andy johnson, was
stopping, for the purpose of getting his views
on the political situation. Mr.. Orr was acces'
| sible after dinner. and was pleased to meet q
representative 81 the Herald. He arrived here
on Saturday for The purpose OF lransacting
some private business, and will leave for An
napolls this morning. Heis one Of the visl'
tors 70 the Naval Academy. The Ex-Governor
is a stout, rosy-cheeked, good-humored gen.
tleman about sixty years of age.
After some preliminary talk Mr.. Orr said, IN
| answer to a question put by The reporter. ihal
| he aid not think much wouid come OF sending
United States soldiers TITO the South AZ lhls
time. so,rr
'swiessness in the South. Governor. Will lhey
not
THE SOLDIERS USELESS.
Mr.. Orr. No; and I will tell you why. The
laTiess persons don't commit crimes where
there are armed forces; IL is only i'll wiz anu
uptreulented places that they operate: III
takes some time Tor a messenger 10 reach Tue
place where the soldiers are stationed, anu d
longer time for the latter TO reach Inc scene
of The disturbance. OF course when they
get there they Ind nothing 10 suppress III"
nobody 10 arrest. 49,, .,..,
bands exist in the South?
MIR. Orr. Indeed I do; at least in South
Carolina. I don't know bow IL ma be IN otner
States, but ne have got them. they are poll
lical bodies, too. Can't say what They are
driving at; bu.. undoubtedly, they are aclllated
by hatred Of the Yankees. They are a troupe
and u nuisance to al citizens who are
EslRo OF PEACE y QUIET,
and these are the majority of the people oi the
State. Most Of them are soldiers-bad ones.
no doubt-of our tConfederatel army; bnt Of
this I am not certain. ] suppose ku-kluX
would be the proper name for them.
Reporter. Ii they are troublesome 10 the
peaceful citizens Of the State, why don't the
citizens suppress them!
MIR. Orr. That's Just il. ] wish they would
suppress them. Ii Wade Hampton and The
other generals of the State, who have the con
1idence of the people, would only declare them
selves against the ku.kluX and their damned
prapks, there would be peace at once. But
YOU see they won't. They are sore. They have
their backs up because they were not euiran:
chisel Had they been rardoned and given
the franchise. the Ku.ktuE would have no had
existence, in our State at least. They are sullen
now, and let the niggers, carpet-baggersEseal.
awags and Ku-kluX send The Stale TO theHevdl
Their own way. us q pity that O different
policy had not been pursued. If the recon-
there would be a different State of affairs In III
South to-day. / was IN favor Of Johnson's pol
Icy oil along; but now ! see where he made q
mistake; he should not have tried 10 run the
whole business himself, but have called Con-
gress together and submitted his programme
or aclion 10 them. I believe Congress would
have supported him, and all would have ueen
well. IL was
a Personal FIGHT
between him and Congress; indeed. old Ste:
vens (Trad) said to ME one day In Washing
ton, Governor Orr, this Is entirely a personal
fight between lis aud the man at the other end
OF the avenue"
Reporter. There were no !awless societies
while you were the Executive Of South Caro-
liua, Governor?
Mr.. Orr. No; not even an arrest dnring the
two years and q half that ! was Governor: /
took good, safe measures against disorders. l
organized a secret police IOrce, and kept the
names and Whereabouts Of the members of il
q profound secret. The consequence was that
none dared take the first step toward an unle?:
full act LOT fear OF instant arrest. y similar force
now in South Carolina would do more to sup
press ku.kluX outrages than all the army Of
the United States.
Reporter. Then you don't see any way out
OF your present difficulties
Mr.. Orr. No; unless. as I said, the leading
generals take the Ku.KluX in hand / don't see
how outrages are to be stopped. A declara-
ton from Wade Hampton and the other gene
rails who have the confidence OF The people
that they'acquiesced In
THE ACTION OF CONGRESS,
suffrage and everything, and counselled
and there would be no more out
RACES 10 be reported. But why sholld they do
It 1t is nothing 10 Them. They don't suffer.
II is q difficulty the carpet-baggers made Tor
and they must bear it. Sir, The
way the State Is now run Is awful. The people
are robbed right and left, and are being ruined
completely by The swarm Of Northern locnsis
that have settled down in their midst. 1t Is
that ontrages should be committed.
BY the citizens; bui the provocation Is indeed
great. We have now a bigger majority OF 30
900, and against this we are pOwerless, as at
organized. They rule and ruin as
they please. because We are stupid enough TO
insist on being recognized as Democrats.
Reporter. Your are a Republican Governor
are you not -?
Mr.. err. Well-yes: that is. ! am u kind OF
n Republican. The only hope | see for the
State OF South Carolina Is for all hands to de-
clare themselves Republicans. As matters now
the carpet-baggers and niggers have
everything their own way. AT election time.
when a good man sincerely desirous 'ot sup
oil the hour aud restoring the Stale 10 her
condition, offers himself as a candidate
Tor office on the Democratic ticket, he Is i'm.
mediately put down By
SOME CCCRsED sCALAwAG
or field hand, tine tool of the scaiawag. in this
''Whu emancipated you The mig
gers Who enlraRchised you VINO enabled
you TO exercise your inalienable right to ride
on the cars with the white folks Who shed
their blood for you and stand by you to-day !
The Republicans Who fought against you in
the war to keep you in slavery Who want
TO annul The emancipation proclamation and
The laws Of Congress made for you by your
Who want to re-enslave You The
So the Democratic gentleman
has 10 take a back seat. The 10000 black ma
is rolled up for the scalaWag, carpet-bag
and niger candidates, and we are US before.
II our people, sir. had the sense to 20 in with
lie niggers, declare themselves resolved to
the amendments 10 the constitution
and the reconstruction acts Of Congress, and
hcncetorward they wouM be Republicans,
il would be all up with the carpet bag ers; the
offices would be filed with men o fire.
spectability and intelligence, and the State
would speedily recover. That is my policy
Tor South Carolina. We don't cure anything
there for Federal politics; our ardent de-
is to recover the Stale from The scoun-
UIplS who ar, nOw ruOninu III