The New York herald., 1871-12-16

and drive out on the road to see my man.
Miners house, when he agreed TO surrender tuo
plates; he said he wonld send me check Tor =
Beaily to Rutherfurd Park, New Jersey: he got a
trunk there and brought II 10 me; opened the trunk
when Beatty brought the trunk 10 me cannot say
VINO was present; cannot say Beatty assisted ms
saw Beatty put IL on the noor when opened tina
trunk looked intolt.
Y, Wnen you looked into it what aid you sccg
olIecled 10. question ruled out, no Iounuation
having been laid Tor II.
Q. Who, on tae 10Th OF October last. had you in
your employment In New York; A. Appegate,
Hettesip, bauers, Fltzpatrlck, Clandeli, Drum-
mond aud De Lomo; Whitman never IN my enl-
formation; the 15th Of October last called Into
my ONCE Arpegate, Bauers, Kennoch. Drummond,
titzpatrick and. tnink De Lomo, aud gave them
instructions about making TINS arrest or Mlners
= ,oiu aneni, ''Aow have matter ot great im-
porlanse on hand ana want you 70 ACT with
Coe expects 10 meet Miner tonight at seven O'Clock
deal M u 70 Joe rae - not ser, as to Where sns
informed tnat when Miner made a deal ne
generally had @ q, third man, aud told them TO be
searched to see II there was anything upon him;
Anpeaaie was 70 take charge q the expedition;
expected 10 get ten dollar and two dollar plate;
about an hour before this had gwen To Cole 81 500
In good money; II had been Marked and Mr.. suit
van made list ol the money; compared portion
OF the list with the money; saw those notes again
the list; they were wet; they were the same notes;
saw Applegate comparing the list III my ONCE;
instructed them 20 go TO Flitynlnth street and Ninth
avenue, where had agreed with Cole That he should
be at halt past O'Clock: about half past eight that
and kenuoch; Thomas r. Ballard also came In nm
der arrest abouJ the same time; lie was taken into
another room; kennoch handed me a package;
told him TO take the striug OF; the paper Oh the
package was tncn taken or: It was bun, or hshS
color inside was piece Of green .olclosn aud 10
same have examined here to-day; the plates were
wrapped IN tnioIl; took some or It or; OK
anned the plates carefully, and put them III my safe;
they are the ones told the Officers expected to
get; Ballard was kept thar night, ana next day
Appiegate and Netteshio went with him 10 place
Wnere tney found u quantity Of counterfeit money;
this counterfeit money was STRUCK from those 80,
SlUand $50 counterfeit plates; IL ~ markek, .'Coun-
terIeit money taken rom Thomas Ballard October
25' the greater portion are $40 bulls and some arc
S. and $40; they are an counterfeit bills.
A. Yes. - -
o DO You see holes In the plate9 A. Yes.
q. Do you know what these mean A. 1t means
that when plate Of counterfeit on a bank has pe-
come wei known these holes are punched lOr the
purpose OF raising up the face oI the plate and
MIR. PiERaEpovT offered to prove what the witness
knew, from experience, tnat such thing had been
gone through on particular plate.
MI. FULLERTON objected, on the ground that the
Witness was not an expert.
WITNEss-I never saw such thing done in my
lie; only know OF the thing from experience.
The Court ruled out the oner.
WiTNEss--CountericlJ notes OF different banks
may he printed from the same plate; IA roll OF
oil the government fibre paper; this dark mark Is
the localized fibre, ana the ether s the dstrDutve
the the government calls tins ule THIS paper was
brought to my Office by Ncttlc5hip md Applegate;
they got IL IRON Ballard at Ballard's place; saw
Ballard after he was brought ntre III tue custody.
or the mafslal he was Indictel here; do not
his arrest OF 81, 900 but afterwards, by leave
OF the Secretary OF the Treasury increased the re-
ward to soue alard escaped m irom , Ludlow street
nor had with Miner was on the night OF his arrest
IN my ONCE; we walked into my office; SAID 70 him.
"l sorry you got into THIS affair alter what YOU
said to me;' lie replied. 81 got those things to hep
a friend oul;'' l asked him 70 name his friend; ne
declined do so; he sad III viii swear that never
mad anything to do with tue patcs;'' replied, ..You
win not asked to do the swearing IN the United
States Court;'' l asked him II lie knew q man
naM'a 1naa .ns mse' ds 1e not Know s baara ~
sight by his residences; gave the money 81, 800,
to Cole IN the Bowery, at the Assembly Rooms; Mr..
AppIcgate was present; when arrested Cole
to give away tie man from whom he received this
counterfeit stun. and III order to enable him 10 60
this countcreing business In order to get Cole TO
see Miner had TO let him 20 alone. bnt he gave
bail; wound not release him: after turning Miner
over TO US gave Cole back the deed; spoke to lho
District Attorney and MI. purdy on tins ma, matter
| he could GET the man who dld this
thing that thought II would be q sufficient benefit
to tie government TO let him lCOle) go; made an
arrangement with. MIN To buy counterfeit money
from Miner; Mr.. Davis. the District Attorney. and
Mr.. Pur,y agreed 10 this arrangement; Colo Is per-
lectly free since he gave MS evidence here he was
promised Immunity through the District Attorney.
Cruss-examned Mr.. Davis assented that cole
should not be punished II he gave evidence against
Miner; first had conversation with Cole on this
subject on the nth OF October; he promised on the
night Of his arrest 70 give me Information; did not
want TO take any bah but his own. because did
this arar; do not remember having instructed
Cole when lie was going out to make deal OF coln-
tercit money win Miner TO take third party with
him, to secrete himself, thar he could see;
would depend upon the word Of Cole that he had
got counterfeit money from Miner II he said So;
took no means 10 satisfy myself that IN is counter
letter wnom had arrested had come In contact
Wn tns lrd person. IRON wom ne nan rsGcysa a 3,
tho counterfeit money alleged 10 nave been pur-
chase. by cole from Miner on the nth OF Octopec
ana which money was handed tn Witness
q. Can you say, OF your own knowledge, that thc
money here in Court Is the money YOU received that
morning2 A. cannot say positively.
witness was next closely cross examined as to
the interview he had WIN Mirer, when he took
Gurney up to Miners stable. Witness roId Miner
that he would give up the $40 plates he would icf
Gurney go; Miner SAID he would give up no maR;
Witness Informed Miner that ne was SATISFIED, rom
information his possession, that he had the plates.
and inaliy he agreed to. give them up: MIR. Miner
on one occasion at his house spoke, 10 me ia inc
presence OF Mr.. Siivey; do not remember that
said TO Miner 'iou promise ed TO write me
letters DO aooT no, oars m sG nas sas
people In his house; went up again to the house,
ana met Miner there; he SAID the plates would be
forthcoming In few days, or words TO that effect;
he wanted to know how would receive the plates;
told HIM that it would be good way to express
them; he said he did not want 10 40 thas: that be-
would send me the cnecE OF trunk, anu that
would get letter III few days.
q. From hun? A. Yes.
u. Produce that letter. A. hove " Into the fire.
u You did not preserve ttf A.. 80: IL was only o
few lines; destroyed It. thlnEins ~ tue limc mat
would have no occasion 10 use IL; the check OF the
trunk IN the letter.
o. Are you In the habit OF Keeping such ettcrs7
A. No. sir; II aid not occur TO mo that the letter
would be OF use TO me IN this counterletillg bust-
ness, as | relied on what Mr.. Miner said.
AT the rising OF the Court, at laifpast three
O'Clock, the cross examination Ol Colonel Whitiey
had not concluded Tue further hearing OF the case
was adjourned to Monday morning next, al eleven
O'Clock.
SUICIDE BY SHOOTING.