The New York herald., 1871-01-08
TIE EX-saEasFE'S STORY.

He Doesn't Want TO Talk Charity, but Does
Talk Poiitics-Tammany Not TO BE Sncezed
At and Hoffman All Right.
In view OF the fact that Sherir O'Bren's unosten-
tatious charities have recently attracted comment
and public notice, HERALD reporter yesterday
called upon him for the purpose, If possible, OF
learning of their extent and the mode of oistrbu-
tlon. The handsome ex-of1cial was found In tenn.
porary ONCE IN the City Hall, surrounded by a few
friends. Calling him aside, The following converse.
ton ensued:--
REPoRTER-Shern, have called for the purpose
Of short interview If you win grant it. hope you
are not opposed to the popular practice OF inter-
viewing now in vogue.
Mr.. O'BRIEN-I certainly am sir, as a general
thing; but If l can consistently answer any ques-
tions shall be pleased to do so.
REPoRTER-We sir, the more immediate subject
upon which wish to speak is the distribution OF
charities in which you are now engaged.
Mr.. O'BaIEN- Upon that subject, sir, I must re-
main silent l would rather let them speak for
themselves to those benefited thereby and not have
them paraded in the papers.
REPoRTER-But, Mr. O'Brien it is only your I'm
mediate friends who know OF your bounty. The
public are also Interested. Others permit the pub
lie to learn OF their charities, and while appreciate
your motive In refraning from publicity, do not
that there Is any objection TO stating just how
much you are doing for the poor.
Here Mr.. O'Bren arose and srnilingly said, II
certainly cannot be the means of parading my chart
ties. What little give know is deserved, and il
you are going TO publish anything on the subject
must not talk
The reporter ceased to take notes. but succeeded
In learning tnal Ior the past Tour years MIR. OBren
has been
DISTRIBUTING COAL
and otherwise aiding the residing In the east
side wards, above Fourteenth street, from other
sources, discovering that The amount so expended
will IN the aggregate reach about sllo,ooo 10
REroRTER-,Well Mr.. OBren, as this subJecr is
distasteful to you suppose we speak Of practical
Mr.. O'BRiEN--I have no objection to that
REPoRTER-What do you think OF the complexion
of partesS Is iammany likely to retain its power
In the city State and natlonS
Mr.. o'BREN-I have 40 doubt but 1t WILL We are
great power In politics.
You tiis say we. should 1t be "we' or :they uns :"
MIR. OERlEN (smngl-They, of course. | can
hardly get q street sweeper appointed now.
REPoRTER--Do you think the Young Democracy
will fall into line with Tammanyp
Nh. OBRIEN-i don't see any Young Democracy
to Tammany, If they bad chance TO express them
selves: bur the machinery OF Tammany Is so power.
ful that 1t is useless TO Try to combat II.
REPoRTER-Thel you think that In future contests
the democracy Will be unitedY
Mr.. 0BRlEN-I think SO. do net see that any.
thing car be done outside of Tammany. 1t is the
real power. However, we cannot tell what few
months may bring forth. No one could Ioresec the
was greater power, and lew short months since
1t crumbied into dust.
REpoRrER--Wno has the best chance for being
THE NEXT GOVERNOR
TO get IL; but don't think he desires 1t. Next to
him think Mayor Hall's chances are the best.
REPoRrER--Ihen you believe that Mr. Hall retains
his old power In the Tammany organizauon9
Mr.. O'BRIEN-Yes, i think s0 and II he has the
Tammany support he will certainly be the Gov
ernor. l have heard that there exists teud be-
tween Mir. Hall and the Tammany leaders, but
dc not credit the report
REPoRTER--What OF Hoffman?
Mr.. 0'BRIES-He won't be a candidate for Gov
ernor.
Mr.. 0'BRIEN-No, sir; for President He aspircs
to thai position.
RGfonTER-But have you not read the Albany
letter III the Telegram published last week, in
which the writer, apparently speaking by the cards.
says Hoffman Will work for the Senatorship in 1872
and the Presidential nomination III 1876?
Mr.. O'BRIEN-No sir; have not seen it, But IL
such an idea has been put forth It Is for purpose He
is the Presidential candidate for 1872. They don't
want his name mentioned permanently now, as the
entire press Of the country would take up the dis
cussion OF his Claims, ana might damage his pros
RECOMMENDATION you are satisfied he aspires
higher than 10 Senatorial seats
Mr.. O'BRIEN- -Assuredly; and he will be nominated
by the party.
REPoRrEk-By Tammany or by the democracy Of
MIR. OBRIEN-By the democratic party all over
the country.
REpoRTsa-Bus Is there there, not danger of the demo-
cracy Of other states kicking against
THE DICTArIONS OF TAMMANY
in the nomination OF HOImans
Mr.. O'BRIEN-0h, no. Tammany is powerful and
rich. The South is poor, and the delegations from
the Southern states will go solid Ter Hoffman If
Iammany wills 1t. There are agents from the south
now here, ana things are being fixed up SO as to
make IIolman's nOrenaton in the next National
Convention n certainty. "fou know how 1t is
yourself' with the South; they are poor and Tam.
many is rich (this was said with a peculiar smile,
and Hoffman will certainly be the next candidate
for President.
REPoRTER-well, Mr.. O'Brien, to return to local
pctics, presume you do not aspire Office at pre-
sent, after being so long IN public life?
Mr.. O'BRIEN--No, sir; / would rather be out of
politics. desire 10 into somt suitable bushes 50
when can get IL. would net take any Office now
After settling up my business might. Men going
out OF olcc have an antipathy to entering 1t again
at once but this feeling wears or time and they
sometimes fall back into harness again,
Here the interview, which was ol a very pleasing
character, terminated.
FIRE IN MADISON AVENUE,