New-York tribune., 1871-05-12
THE TREATY of WASHINGTON
.,,r spvATE FOREIGN COMMITTEE IN ooN-
1''' sULTATION.

,S,r1, SENATE FOREIGN COhhii 49,
sULTATION.
e,,ccrsrFp IN THE TREATf--No ~
ropr EXPECTED BEFORE NoNpAi r,,,.
snrp,p1E OPPOSITION EFFECTED ~ i''N
SENATE. -,-r,
Try TELEGRAPH TO THE TRiBONN'
-. No. Il The Foreign Relations
,,,,,,,,,,toe having under discussion ''e i'N''
.s IN sossion for nearly seven houis ''-"''' "'
.....,ors ~ the Committee being Pr''c"'' i"0
''' =, and discussed, article by article and
A''''' .r,-,sted from time to time, as the read
,-....oacd II does not appear, thus far that any
- ., tbo Committee is hostile to its provisions or
,,snosition TO oppose It, Some OF the members
10 -, efer 20 have certain changes made, hut no con
W., elton was taken, the session Of the Committee
-, mostly taken up in general discussion oil the
vIo,s subicct
stcrs ar, as little disposed to communicate in
ITO, IN advance Of their action as tho COmmisSloi-
-. From the manner which The Committee has
- to york II is evident that the members don't IN
"a t Keen the Senate waiting any longer than IS ncces
g. but the length OF the document and lis Importance
uled tho possibility of reporting it to the senate
-, n ocoin assemblies tomorrow. Members believe
tovevcr tnat the Committee viii have Substantially
closed lis examination on Monday.
Co,veratlon among Senators to-day and this evening
s,yrs that the Treaty Will not De ratified without
scd and perhaps long debate and that there is honc
rraanity that It may he amended Tie treaty Is gen
ctav spckn OF nc a remarkably strong one, though al
most every one critciscs some point Of It, Iee Seha
ts who are conceded 70 be among the best lawyers IN
no senate. asserted IN Convention this evening that
trcre was not a concession TO the United States III
tbe whole Treaty. That, so far as the Alaoama
Cus are concerned we have only Board OF Arpltra-
ton provided for and perhaps, second nut no'hins
tangible while If England should get INFO war WIN any
American nation or with any of her provinces ana PIT
yateers should be fitted in our ports, we should De
bd rcsponsibe under this Treaty without any Boafd OF
Arbitration In other words they say tDat there j. o
rarsry that he Board OF Arbitration will hnu that We
have any valid claims while If parallel case snou"
arise in the future, there could be no quesuoh as 10
our responsibility But this Is not cohSluereu'
by the majority OF the Senator's as fair satemeu' o
tic since one of the provisions Of the Treaty is th
the pincipes laid down shall be retroactive, ana WI
Therefore fasten upon England the full responAoihy
Tor them The same Senators also claimed that no con-
ocssou was made to us regard to the fisheries, bn
that is proposed that we buy every privilege gwen US
anl pay its full value San JUAN they say Is lett aPont
vhcrs it was the Treaty the subject negotiated oy
RcvcIdy Johnson.
There axe very few however, who crtciso the Treaty
ms q whole hut the following are some Of the points
wLch viii arise in debate. Trey win relate principally
a. the article which provides for the settlement Of he
clas Of British subjects. Considerable surprise Is eX-
pressed by Mr. and or two others, that the
American Commissioners did not insist that Great
Iritain should submit schedule of the claims OF her
sube,ts SO that it might be definitely known of what
Had trey are, and what is their amount.
TIE a surance has been given at the
State Department that they are insignificant in
amount and win not include any OF those TO WHEN the
American public Will object; and Grauyiles letter 10
Lord Ivous about the claims of British subjects Ill
Oh fnc clan hat hero Ia n a a~
20 fear that they viii be large But the reply to this as
s,yce IS that W. are that England will abide
nv these preccdens and that it would have becn nch
more satisfactory TO have had these points oe
6ricIy settled in the Treaty itself. To show tha'
these claims nav be very considerable in amount 1t Is
said that Al $1,000 Oyed in tie case OF the ePelefoh
ol,e which was captured the Rio Del Norte and cen
Damned Caleb Cushing is reported to have shd Wllbh
Gav or two that this had already been before the
Supreme COur and opinion against the Uhted states
las been given. law firm in this clty mas S00'O'o
worth Of claims for tobacco captured on vessels whih
were few hours late in getting away from Norfolk ana
other ports when the blockade was declared
several Senator's announced, before tie Treaty was
siu,,ed that they would vote dollar TO pay for
pockaderunners and viii therefore have to be shown
that such claims 10 be excluded TO get ther support
MI Sumner will also call attention to what he considers
tie cumbersome nature Of the Board OF Arbtiauon anu
rraus suggest that il would have been more sasfac-
the United STATE. Court OF Claims law passed in Juy,
l5s has the effect to forbid Eugshman to recover ID
cur Court Of Claims long like privilege Is not ac-
corded 10 cit ns Cf the United States in England TIC
question o. amending the Treaty has already arisen, and
precedeuts for such action have been looked up.
TL Treaty is very similar In its character 10 the one
negotiated by John jay in 179i both being Treaties o.
reconciliation and no other OF similar character have
ever been made BY the United states. But thai Treaty
was ratified by a vote Of only 20 and to obtain cveI
that vote necessary 10 amend a. The Treat ofl'9i
was also ike that OF ls Of such character that wash
iug.on thought 1t best that it be given TO the
public Immediately through the press but the
day before he TO do this a prominent
Senator handed copy TO journalists and the treaty
was published TIE popular idea that the English Com
missOners clothed with peDary powers IN regard
10 negotiating this treaty is said to he incorrect Ihey
had such powers only ia name, every point In the
treaty bavag hcen submitted by telegraph to the author
tiles In DoWBingst., and often amended there.