The New York herald., 1871-10-13
'Twns Both Of Them.

s reported that ali the able-bodied men OF Manitoba
under arms.
'Twns Both Of Them.
TORONTO, UcL r. 1871.
Further advices have been received connrmatory
OF the account Of the Fenian attack on Pembina on
ahe 5th inst. They met with no resistance there
1he place not being garrisoned
II appears that ODOnahue mas been planning an
attack on Fort Garry all summer, relying upon re.
CeTing support from the French halfbreeds. The
raid was intended to inspire them with confidence.
he has been intriguing with workmen on the line
OF the Northern Pacific Railroad, counting on their
help when work on the road stopped. He is said
20 be accompanied by O'Nein Southern general,
and had only about nifty men with him at Pembina,
and they are now being driven back over the bor
dcr. O'Neu Is said to have given himself up.
History Of the Invasion.
In connection with the above dispatches the fol-
lowing paragraph from the st. Paul, Minn Despatch
oi October is not without interest at this tme:-
gentleman just arrived from Fort Garry In.
Soy o
are gathering IN dinerent places between St Cloud
breeds The priest Donahue. VINO viii be IT remem.
bered as Riels ally In the "Red River rebeion,n Is
% % sas % 1e he IS
and arms, with which he has furnished
THE HALF BREEDS
Fort where q men nave
81 Cloud is suspected o. being intended for the
Or R o II Joe Our
and that me English and scotch Cana
Of fenian and half breei OUTBREAK,
e wipe Out the disturDers q the peace. we have
General Sherman asking that more forces should be
sent TO the boundary to prevent the expected RAID.
management Of affairs Is reported to exist IN Mani
toba and that gentleman's resignation Is talked Of
With the view Of obtaining the most reliable In
formation on this subject, which considerably agi-
tated large number OF our citizens yesterday
evening when the Montreal despatch appeared IN
the evening papers, reporter called uron an Irish.
man in this city who has been identified with
THE FENIAN MOVEMENT
since its inception, and who Is at present active
member OF the Council OF the Fenian Brotherhood.
The reporter found the Fenian leader in the ONCE OF
an Irish newspaper, and the following conversation
occurred during the interview
REPoRTER-Havc you seen that despatch In the
evening papers relative to new Fenlan invasion Of
Canada, sirY
FEsIAs smiing sir; have just been half
amused and half annoyed by It.
REPORTBR-How has II resulted in your mingled
amusement and annoyance, SIR
FENIAE-ln the first place. II has set me thinking
that Fenianism Is being systematically charged
with every such piece OF folly, madness and crime
rs these insensate raids on Canada most undoubt-
edly are.
REPoRrER-Then the Fenians have nothing to do
with this last raid'
FKNIAN-The Fenians proper have really never
had anything to 90 with any RAID Sir, this Cont
nenI il Is true that certain prominent members OF
1be Brotherhood have, on two or three occasions,
organized
SHAN NvAsIoNs
pf Canada, and induced some OF our hot he AIDED
members among other fools to accompany them;
but though such questionable acts grew out OF the
Fenan Brotherhood, rs II were they were no part
OF Fenianism, which was formed for very different
purposes-very different, assure you, SIR.
REPoRTER-well but does this present raid
also grow out OF Fenianism," as you says
FgNIAN-No sir; not even that II understand
this present movement in the Northwest-and am
pretty certain l do--no Fenian Of any kind has had
anything 10 do with this a1ar.
REPoRrER-Is lhe Canadian wing" OF the Fe-
pian Brotherhood not favorable to such move
ment.
{ FENIAN-There is no such tding as q Canadian
wing In existence now, SIR The invasion OF Can
plainly enough ttat their leaders were sbamefulIy
uishonest or absurdly incompetent, and that the
success OF their ridiculous scheme was neither pos
siule nor desirable. The consequence was the or.
Hanlzation dlsbanded itself completely, About half
lts members reoined the old organization and prom
any more, ana the other half
GREW TIRED OF FESIAN1sM
altogether gave itup. Al all events no person
Claiming TO be Fenian is IN any way engaged IN
lhis business.
HEPoRrRB-Surely General o'Nenl is Fenianp
IESIAH-No sir; he Is not
REPoRrER--Did not read IN the newspapers that
ne took prominent part In the last Penian Conven
flon IN this cey with yourself and there elected
y member OF your present Fenian Councilf
FENIAH--That Is true Sir. After his release from
praon he came back 10 the old brotherhood with
many Of has former followers He confessed he had
a z
policy OF attempting TO invade Canada, and ne
pledged himself TO devote himself entirely IN future
" The furtherance Of The Objects for which alone
fenianism was founded Shortly afterwards, how
ever, he resigned his pace IN the Fenian Council
and withdrew from the organization. For very good
reasons hls resignation w'as promptly, not 10 say
RiAdly, acrepie Dy the Brotherhood
REP K1ER-Why did lie restgnY
bEKIAs oh, In view Of the l,ction he intended to
rake In this pr esenf mCvemelI on the Red River.
De kpew yer wen how VIC all fest on that subject.