The New York herald., 1871-11-14
JUDGE TROY ON IIE SITUATION.

Calling upon Judge Troy, at his offlce In Fulton
street. near the City Han, yesterday morning, q
HERALD representative rolnd HIM on the point OF
leaving In great hurry but on the reporter
making hts business known-which was no more
nor less than few moments conversation
upon the political situation or IN other words to
'1nterview'. him, he kindly bade the 'scribe" be
seated and announced himself ready to be
'pumped.'
''What do you think OF the movement on the part
q the republicans and reormers Of this city which
b now going on ~ began the reporter.
II most assuredlv think 1t Indicates a desire and
. determination on the part OF the people TO have
total and complete revolution erected In the county,
ana the abolition OF all these commissions.
''Wnat commissions do you refer to, Judge; the
Water Board presnmer'
''Yes sir, l refer more particularly to the Water
Board. 1t Is one OF the most stupendous frauds that
ever controlled half million OF people, and that it
has ana stI does control that nunoer Of people
there can be no doubt Why, sir, 1t has the hand
ding Of millions OF money, and that. too. without
rendering any account OF 1t IN detail and 1t uses all
Of ITS patronage for political purposes and sguan.
ders the public funds to perpetuate the power OF
the few individuals comprising 1.-THE Ring There
b o great deal OF responsibility attempted to be
placed upon some persons not onically connected
with it, and SO far as my observation goes 1t has
merely in the hands OF those who compose It."
"But Judge, who Is responsible for the frauds
committed bv this commissions There must be
some head some responsible party connected with
..Weli. it has been said tnat Mr. Hugh Mclaughlin
the b0ssl Is responsible 1or these frauds; but for
my part 90 NOT think think ne Is: ! have Known tlat
dent that II the truth could be known ne would be
wholly exoneratei RON any lmputation"
"D0 you think, Judge, the repubtcans VIII be
successful in their efforts 70 have the cenincates OF
election given to their candidates9' ~
"Ncu, with regard to that, you know the Board or
Oanvassers Will have TO and Will give the certificates
to the candidates having the largest number Of votes,
have been irauduientIy cast. They nave no power
20 enter into anything ike an INVESTIGATION OF the
aas ny Insrs sat are o0mpee' 70 give
"Dut are you satisfied frauds have been commit
ted, such as stulng the ballot boxes. counting IN,
al am, most assuredly, and am also satisfied
that II the candidates who have been counted out
torney General and the cases are tried Dy jury or
citizens OF this county, as they must be, such Jury
offices, and understand that IL is the intention Of
o number of candidates To pursue this course. Now,
there IL one gentleman whose election have paid
considerable attention toI refer to MIR. Moore, who
ran for county Judge-and ] am satisfied that he
county ticket whom do not believe were elected.S
"Changlng the subject a little, Judge, have You
heard anything with regard to the formation OF q
new party, or the reorgan zatiOn OF the democratic
party In this ct5yn
"les, have heard OF something OF the kind. 1
understand there Is now In course Of organization
new democratic party in the different wards for
the purpose oi forming a central general commit
tee and having ior Its platform opposition to the
commissions ana reformation Of the city ana
county governments upon the true democratic prin
cipc of eecting every Official who is to have I'M anv
way the nanung OF the public moneys, and the pas
sage OF such laws as VIII compe a strict accountab-
ity TO the people for every dollar OF their money
pended and every act performed. Such an organi-
Eation is much more needed here in this county
than IL was IN New York."
g q
you speak OF Is greatly needed here; but do you
hope Tor fair election SO long as you are without
:No, do not We must have a stringent regis
try law-tnat ~, one similar to that In force In New
York city-beforc we shall DC able to protect our
nothing 10 prevent the committing OF frauds AZ
our election. But the absence OF regis.
wy Which ' ws suner. Tncse commissons who have not
only had the handling OF the public moneys, but
the keeping Of the pubic peace, nave IN tncr hands
all the small places under both the city AMI county
government and IN almost tnnumerabe number ol
elnecures and every man who reaps dollar rom
these commissions including me ,cce, necessary en-
DO the bidding Of his masters whatever mat may
be. These commissions have Tor long tlme oeen
run the interest OF about half dozen men, anu
every honest and necessary position has Deen per-
vcried TO their grasping ayarlciousness.m 40
ccnlpable parties-who are these half dozen persons
10 wnom you aliulc ~
LAD ~ am greatly pressed for time just now. or !
Moalu tell you the names OF those wnon believe 10
~ ~ responsible for all the frauds committed IN the
anr bTard oar Besides, nave considerable nlor.
SrganSed Srya and and worked repeaiers on election
under some OF these commissions. and wnich % were
pp appu'n.su anu are now retained SIMPLY because OF
viii be presented TO the Grand jury ' WHEN is. as
yon reauay ,,c mm,aerssand good excuse for my
Judge Troy at this point announced his INABILITY
70 longer commune the conversation, because OF the