The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-11-03
A Herald Commissioners Interview with Cap
tain Hospsr, Delegate from Utah, at
Philadelphia Yesterday. a
Polygamy Will Be Surrendered III
Present Marriages are Lee sas
gitlmatixed by Law. &
BRIGHAM YOuiG NOT RUNNING AWAY.
What Hooper Suggests to Settle
the Difficulty. @

fA rs9 PHILADELPHIA, Nov. q 1871.
Captain Hooper, Of Salt Lake City, Delegate to
Congress from Utah Territory, arrived hero last
evening nom New York. en- route 20 washington to
CONFER with President Grant with regard TO the
present troubles In Mormondom. He Is accompa-
MED BY Mr.. Cummings, of Salt Lake. It was my
pleasure to meet Mr. Hooper at the Continental sns
morning, and che annexed report is the record Of
conversation we had on the very Interesting subject
OF ss
PoLYaAxY, MoRMoNrsM AND UrAn's FUTURE.
( Mr.. Hooper has represented Utah in Congress- for
twelve years and his acquaintance with the ''pe-
culiar institution" Is Of long duration. and what
ever he says on the subject may 20 deemed authora
uve:- 1
CORRESPONDENT have called, Mr.. Hooper. for
an expression Of -FOUR opinion with regard to the
Mormon troubles.
Mr.. HooPHn-l left Salt Lake CITY about two
weeks ago, came 20 ogden, stayed there over night
and then came letsurely on to the East When
left home Nj. Young was In tho city, but have
since learned that ne is travelling In the south Of
Utah. He Is not running awav, but u taking trip
he was contemplating for the past two months.
CORRESPONDENT do you think the present trou-
BILE VIII culminate In disaster to the Mormons2
Mr.. HooPnR-Ht. do not There Ia great deal
moro excitement here than there Is In Salt Lake
City. People shere understand the animus that
leads to the present prosecutions and take bat little
interess IA it. BY tho way, who il this man Bates
that Was appointed District Attorney OF Utah day
befors yesterday who appointed him, Mortoni
What " ne and where did he come froms
CORRESPONDENCE am unable to answer your
questioa. l assume that the President had good
reasons for giving him the appointment
Young has been postponed until March next, and
am glad OF It He only wished to get an opinion
o S Sa S e @ LEGALITY
Why, more than half OF that jury ore the worst
apostates IN the world ! They are arpetbaggers--
three and six months s4 4
COMPREHENSIVE you believe them to be innu
Mr.. HoOPER-President Young objects to them,
and not without reason. why, Sir, l was coming
through Ohio IN the cars the other day. when con-
man on the train turned TO leading editor and
said, There are at least three men on that jury
who left certain town In this State for the towns
good" and that is the quality Of men that compose
two-thirds OF the jury. Z -.
CoRREsroSDEsi-Do you object to "Gent,les" as
Mr. HoorRR-Nc, SIR we do NOT; but we do ask
that they be men whom we know; men OF cna.
terests at stake III the Territory, that we may have
some show for an impartial hearing. n
CORRESrONDENr-D0t the people OF Salt Lake City
tnink Judge Mckcan Is acting III this matter on his
oflcers all claim that they are backed by Grant.
We don't believe IL. s i
mission to Washins ton in connection with the
present and prospective troubles.
washington 10 make arrangements for my family
for the winter IUM prooaolysee Inc Presfdesp.
II anything IS said about the troubles 1t will ema-
CORRESPONDENT Judge, from your long expe-
renee you wonid nave ssne suggestion to make
You were asked for one.
Mr.. HoorER-My idea with regard 10 the wiping
out OF polygamy Is tlis:--
OF COURSE 1T MUST PERISH;
and, without going to congress- - would have
convention Of Mormons and Gentilcs-say. two-tlrds
Mormons-meet aud adopt course or action for
the iuture-looAing, OF course, " tine ad-
WonS be have il agreed acted o in psa
faith that no moro polygamic marriages take place;
but the question arises, what should be done with
these marriages be declared bastaris, and the mar.
rlages OF their parents lilegilimates am In favor
has organized state government let the State lie.
clare au MARRIAGES made PRIOR to certain date
makes any preentions to sanity VINO is In favor Of
declaring these marriages forever iegitimate. This
regard as the best solution Of the difficulties
prevailing sentiment among AOrmonsf
Observation-Disclosures Is the population of Utah,
MIR. HOOPER About ono hundred and twenty
Thousand people. Apopulaton which mas proved
rose which has built mp nation in desoate places
and which this government cannot AFFORD TO lose.
cannot spare from the great WORK u is now engaged
and commercial resources OF that great Territory.
We have heard people suggest that we be driven out
ment bur our lands it would not help
US. When the people at large understand our .p)po
REGARD 10 Mor,nonisnl. And the time VV viii come
when we WILL be understood.
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES about the suits brought
Mr.. HooPER-I have heard OF but one. Mrs.
Cook, VINO was once Mormon, fell from the faiih
and went to California. When the troubles began
recently she came to Salt Lake City and demanded
~, 600, which she claimed President Young owed
he rerusea to pay it. for he did not owe It. she suei
interest," making about 5000. =
CORRESPONDENT Is tho prevailing sent.
ment among the rising generation on tine question
Mr. aoopRn-t is against po,yramy. The insti.
tuition would die OF ITS own accord II left alone.
Young people In Utah viii not Of course, say they
are opposed to 1t. but will assure You s -
s%& aai Is ALL RIGHT: nsli
their fathers and mothers were polygamists, but as
for them iaad here Hooper sVly winked, they guess
CORRESPONDENCE had formed the same impress
Gns ys eIS ysar S sg
friend, .you have lived in Salt Lake City twenty
Fears wa are yovr impressions touching the ex
~ agree with yOa IN every particularly replied
in . hundred VINO viii be q polygamist.n
among aa WEI Informed ps es x SRp WON
vided they can be assured OF recog-
milton Of former marriages. That polygamy
Is doomed Is fact beyond contradiction, and
with this blot removed, the Mormons may continue
In their WORK OF developing their country. Tho
country and the civilization OF the age demand the
Mr. Hooper's mission to Washington win DO re.
petition OF his suggestions with regard 10 polyQamy
the adoption OF which, II Is hoped, Will mollify the
demands OF the nation and suffer that people to
retain their religion aud their country intact Mr.
Hooper leaves for Washington tonight.