The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1871-05-26

srsry to reason contrary t. right d that S Sns
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SUBSTITUTE FOR GOD.
CoRREsP0NDENT-Wha do you SUBSTITUTE iof
BRReERRT-Universa harmony.
CORES PoSDEET-wna do you mean by thatf
DERGERET-The union OF everything that exists
IN one harmonious whole. Man. animals, flowers.
plants, trees, stars Understanding.
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES the universe itself.
BERGERET-Yes.
CoRREsPoNpENr-Did this universe or universal
harmony, you ca II IL, create itself'
CAUGHT ON THE HIP.
BERGEREr-Ah, that Is question cannot
answer. 1t is something the human mind cannot
grasp; probably because we lack q faculty. AS q
person who Is born blind cannot comprehend light,
so we cannot understand the Creation / could ask
bly, give me the same answer Try to think 1t out
and you wlll 60 crazy.
human understanding there Is barrier which you
eau universal harmony, whereas we call II God.
BERGEkEr-That Is my meaning exactly.
RADICAL ON ALL THINGs
Turning the conversation upon other subjects
found that he protested equally radical sentiments.
but That upon sitting and analyxng them thoroughly
his opposition seemed to be directed against Names
rather than doctrines or do2mas He protested nim-
tionng HIM found that ne Was by no means free-
lover. quite the contrary. In fact He even adv0-
Gated y the suppression 81 inc ss az Jos
stood In France this buying and selling OF wives and
husbands and legallzing 1t by law, to which he IL
II Is never question of money, but always OF love
he advocates and considers indssOluble, no matter
under what circumstances 1t may De contracted
whether before priest or parson, or justice OF the
peace, oralone under the starry canopy OF heaven.
without priest or witness. such marriage should
ever be held sacred. Not bad doctrine certainly.
He
NOT AN ADVOCATE OF GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OF
PROPERTY.
Every man has a right to what he can honestly
get to become rich, II he Will; Dlt he has right
ior shat reason to cease to be producer, and to
nnsQt G IN
OF all evil and no man, however rich, should pe
allowed to remain idle.
THE ORlGlNATORS OF THE PRESENT RISING.
Returning TO The present condition OF Paris and
passing events. he informed me that 1t was Duval,
and made it a success. They three had full OoWsrs
from the Central Committee to act as circumstances
might require. and It was they who determined
alter the attack upon Montmartre.
HOW TT WAS DONE.
They concerted their plans, and the forts OF
yanvres and lssy were occupied by General Eudes
the Hotel de Vile by Duval ana the Place vendome
by himself. General d'Auree de Paladines was
sttl III bed when he marched upon the place with
his men and was awakened with the message that
he had just twenty minutes In which to surrender.
d'Aurelle was on his way to Versailles and Bergeret
In possession OF the Place vend6me. 'Had we been
IN command the 3lst OF October" continued the
General "tne result would have been Just the same y
A FLING AT FLoURENs.
III was Fiourens' want OF decision that lost US.
We had Favre, SIMON and Trochu under our hands
for moment, and wished 10 arrest and send them
all to Musas upon the instant. FlouTens hesitated
however, and that moment Of hesitation has cost
him hts llIe."
WHAT HE THINKS OF RocHEFoRr.
OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES Is your opinion OF Roche
BERGERET-Rochefort has played his part
Rochefort was only weapon 10 the hands Of the
was the only one they could use. and they used 1t
with effect. Now, however, they have Chassepots
useless. Besides French Journalists are, Tor the
most part parcel OF scamps and Rochefort Is q
journalist or nothing:
CoRREsPoNDENT-And what do you think OF Louis
BlancY
BERGERET-An excellent patriot but he is an old
man, which is the only way In which can explain
his presence at Versailles
GAMBErrA-How IS HEP
CORRESPONDENT-AnC have your opinions CHI anQed
with regard 10 Gambettaf
BERGERET-Not precisely. He fought our battles
well during the empire, and we looked on and ap-
plauded. Nevertheless, he Is q lawyer We are only
mechanics and w0rkmen, and he regards us as as
and eydeny thinks we are seppna out u Of our
sphere, and thinks. probably. we ought to have
asked him 10 lead and direct us. He ID jealous and
ambitious.
BERGERET's AMBITION DEFINED By HIMSELF.
ConREs rosDENT-But are you also not amDitiousf
BEeGEREr-I do not deny that | have an am
bition. hut 1t is not the ambition OF rlcnes, or
nonors, or present fame. II can accomplish some
thing for human progress SO that men viii speak
well OF me when am gone so that one page OF
history be devoted 10 my acts, care not what they
say OF me at present. am poor. and have always
since being In command OF the forces OF the Com
mune have never 1rawn The pay OF a general but
simply that OF common soldier; and my wife has
gone regularly with the wives OF the men
TO draw her fifteen sous per day. accorded
by the Commune to the families OF the
National Guard. SO far from being ashamed OF our
poverty We are proud OF IT, and II the revolution
Succeeds expect to 90 back to my workshop not Q
sou richer than when left IL to command the ar
niles OF the Commune. IL IL fails / shall leave
France forever.
THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNE NOT HONEST.
CONSEQUENTLY you think all the members OF
the Commune are as honest as your
bERGEREr-l am sorry 10 be obliged to say they
are not Many OF them are making money ont OF It.
Nevertheless think the majority may he considered
as honest, straightforward men who are there from
q sense OF duty.
CLUsEREr DENOUNCED As A VILLAIN.
C0RRESPoyDENT-Wha do you think OF Cluseret?
BERGERET-He Is a villain OF the deepest dye, aud
Will be duly tried for treason and punished accord
ing to his deserts.
As have described in previous letter, IL was
after violent scene which occurred between Gu
seret and Bergeret that the latter arrested and
imprisoned. Cluseret Is now in the same cell for
merly occupied by Bergeret
AFTER BREAKFAST
we went 70 Nadur's as BerReret had promised to
go and sit for a picture. While there Nadur re-
marked, In the course OF conversation, that there
great number OF horses In That quarter OF the
city near the arc de Triomphe, especially in the
Avenue de rlmperatrice. al am glad 30 hear it,
said the General; IL have received orders to form
squadron OF cavalry and until this moment aid not
know where should procure the horses"