The New York herald., 1870-03-23

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number OF bifs concocted they knew not where or
| In what mysterious interest. Nelson, or Rookiand,
| declared venementy thar he was not going to vote
| for the removal OF Judge Bosworth and Matthew Il.
Brennan from the Police Commission to make way
| Tor Pete Mitchell and Nike Murphy. These are the
reasons given for their actions by the members OF
| THE BLACK LIST,
| whose names are as follows on the record against
! the bill changing the Police Commission and giving
The appointment to the Mayor and Aldermen
Burns and owen, Murphy. OF New York; Barnes, OF
| Columbia; Davis, OF Steuben; Droll. Haver, Mosey
and Jones' OF Brooklyn; Hasbrouck and Krack, OF
! Ulster; Horton, OF Putnam; Sweet OF Scnohare;
Sturges, OF Columbia; snow, OF Otsego; Payne, OF
| Niagara; Nelson or Rockland; Mooney, OF West
chester; Lanahan and Tighe, OF Albany; Jerred, of
Oneida; Baldwin, Of queens, and Van Steinourgh OF
Greene.
Wall FOR THE PARTY
| was the voice which Jacobs raised when the final
| result was arrived al. 1t was like the voice Of
Rachel crying for her children &C that precise period
| when she 'woud not be comforted.n Jacobs was
never SO earnest All his young political enthusiasm
rose up in him when he declared with mournful
| eIoquence that the power which the democratic
party had been waiting for seventeen years to OBJ
tam mad been surrendered that day into the hands
OF tue enemy whom they just vanqulshed, at which
Jlm Hustled jerxed OUT of the house as gay as q
hummlng bird; Alvord's Old Pan connenance
Wnite rubbed his hands, declaring that the demo-
Gratis wno voted against the bills had done act
| entitllng them TO immortal renown.
THE SENATOR'S,
iWeeu, Genet Norton, Creaner and Bradley, were
| on the floor during the debate with what variety
OF feeling tney watched its resdits am nos prepared
| 10 say.
CHARTER POLICE AND SUPERVISORS BILLS
are all gone TO the bottom 0l the There was
h a A ~ pAl lnfu mi
| thrown TO the surface; also very bad odor.
TIE BUSINESS IN THE SENATE
was virtually suspended during the excitement In
the Lower House. and majority OF the Senators re-
paired to the Assembly Chamber to watch the pro-
Brice, I. H. Ferris, }. W. Brown, j.. Suydam L. Nc
Conlno Colonel Simmonds and William Pennoyer
were sent IN by the Governor ior the positions OF
| and J. 5. Jones as Captain OF the Port.
SPECIAL oRDER-THE sKIRMisH.
Amid not Il little excitement the House went into
Committee or the Whole Oh the three bills emitted
"ln relation to the government or the county oi
New York; ITO reorganze the police depar ,nent OF
the city ana county Of New York; ANA I'm relation
to the local government OF the ciIy OF New YORK
the maintenance thereof"
TIE POLICE BILL
was first considered
Mr.. KIERNAN,. dem) OF New York, moved to sub
stitaie or Assembly b No. $685. the Senate bill NO.
3ol rs It was precisely the same IN character and
substance
Mr.. ALvoRp, rep OF Onondaga rose to a point
OF order, contcndng thai the Dill mentioned could
not be substituted.
1t was finally resolved that the first section OF the
Assembly bill should follow the second and laird
sections OF the Senate pill No. 301.
Mr. WHITE, rep.) or New York. thought that the
Assembly OIL Was not entirely The same as the
Senate bill.
Mr.. KlERSAN--The only object had In substtu-
ting the Senate blll was TO anvance legislation
IAc CLERK having read the iirst three seclions on
the nlls the Chairman asked whether there were
any amenurfsnts to be made, 50
Mr.. KIERNAN moved that the committee rise TO
report ana recommend Its passage. He desired TO
say by way OF explanation that he was not prepared
10 make any motion until the OH mad been read
through. he believed tnat now DISCUSSION was ont
oierjer.
Mr.. WHITE asked the quetion whether it was in
tended there should be discussion upon this bll and
whether II would be proper to move immediately
after 1t had been read. lie was informed that dis
cusson would be permitted, ana now 1t seemed he
naa Deen mistaken @ IN that respect by the motion
which had just been made.
Mr.. HIrcHMAN, ldem.) New York-The statement
mace BY Mr.. White s entirely correct. Nor is there
any disposition whatever to cut or debate.
Mr.. WHTE-lne question before the House as
announced was as TO the amendment OF the tnc and
II am Ia order propose to MAKE All amendment
by striking out the title.
Mr.. MITCHELL, tdem) New York, rose to point
ana, therefore, amendments were out OF oraer.
THE GAUNTLET CAST UPON THE FIELD
Mr. KIERNAN sa.d 1t was far from his intention to
cut Off debate on this question. He was informed
tnat the discussion Of the merits OF the Dill now be-
lore me House was perfectly IN order, ana II the
be heard on the general provisions OF the bill ne nad
now an opportunity 20 enlghten the House far as
his ability would permit him.
THE DEBATE-THE TGCsIN SOUNDED
Mr.. WHITE SAID he did not intend to go into any
minute discussion in regard to the merits OF the
hil nevertheless, being the only member from New
York representing the minority, he thought 1t best
and proper under the circumstances to inform the
members Of the history OF the police system OF the
city and county OF New York, and TO present some
facts in regard to 1t, leaving the question to the
members TO vote on the bin as they deemed
nt He would premise by saying that as
general principle he Was now ami always had
been III favor OF leaving local matters the local
va hp I'm IA Of
provided the local governments exercised the powers
conferred upon them properly, and faithfully per-
any municipal government neglected or failed any
the Legislature to interfere and that the existing
evils were abated and reformed.
THE POLICE SYSTEM
as 1t now existed grew out OF that difficulty, ana
that alone. and proper police department.
was wanted In New YORK. The present sys.
TEN was established In the year 1851, and
In 1850 1t was reconstructed, having commenced irs
existence In 1857. Under that bill the Commission
ers were appointed by the Governors and were
nrmed by the Senate. Subsequently, by the law OF
1860. the Commissioners were appointed and con
rmcd according to the form Of the Regents OF the
Universities Under the old system, and the time
the oid system was advocated, the police cOn1rma-
ton was substantially invested In the Mayor. It
was through him that all the appointments the
police were made. IL was true those were sOme-
tunes made through the recommendation OF the
Aldermen, but he was recognized as the head Of
the police system In fact 1t was through him
that all appointments were made. 1t was in 1857
that that system was attacked ana spoliated And
why was IT that that new system was adopted why
was II put upon the statue book9 He appealed to
any man familiar With the old police system bear
witness with him that 1t was because the system
had become inefficient. IL became partisan. il had
become corrupt and worthless As 1t existed 1t be-
came growing evil The men who ofiicered that
system, and many OF the attaches OF that Police De-
partment-supposed to be the conservators and
guardians or the peace-were taken from the very
worst set OF cosmopolitan population, some OF them
beng
NOTORIOUS THIEVES.
This was the class OF men who composed the
Police Department Of the city and county OF New
York al that time, and 1t in the power Of one
man TO make or unmake 1t. It was believed, and
with reason, too, that better system was needed
One That was OF common Usefulness to ali, not par
tlsan. That was tue reason OF the police division
IN 1857. he submitted to his colleagues from New
YORK the plain question whether the present system
was not far superior to the former system; whether
there was not more security afforded to property
and life and more eacient body OF men
now tnan under the old system. At present
the BODY was not partisan The Commission
was made up OF two democrats ana two republic
cans, and ne had never heard that there had been
any partisan effort made with regard to appointing
men. The only thing the Commissioners cared for