, 1870-01-26
THE GOLD CONSPIRACY.

FfcA1dCntsA Ar0thef.lu-Fnw r.op
bins AnIsucnce-IfustcrE Kcco.
Ing tho Ring lusorincd-Raftrr.
fields Intercst in tho Opcratlou-
GoFbfn-NhntE EAsk mud Gould Ex.
pcctcd 10 Make.
sptda' Fa'A'"sto" t!aa. =, e. Dt.pateh 10 the se3
James Fiat, Jr, testified on Saturday before the
Htuae Bahklug COMMITTEES as follows: il thS
c10ps or the country are sttGoated-.hst il Il t1e
cfcpa arc held back and rot moved forwa1d--oui
receipts are diminished: on tha 18th al la4, lone
General Grant vas going on 10 Boston to the
Iesalee. sna " ~ Sos9g oses our une Of boats by
MI. Gould and 1-tnat We should 70 over wiif
him and ace whether ne could not learn whnI
HaA 10 be the policy Of tae administration fol
ne coming fan: gold was then selling Al 1876; We
LETT New YORK 70 80 to Bos.oH with Genera, Grnu,
anout CLOCK; VIC gave htu supper; the con.
versasion at supper ~as. Q! co7rse, On tho al.
@ important S Topic Of nnsnee; We talked, aapnasc,
Quest!on-Wno were At that aupoef beside Mr.
Gould, General Grant, and youEself7 FGk-Why,
BY. AaEs,o5 a,1,rn ana osnsr44: wv eunre;
" @ere .os esns nnS s. nus '"gnese there
ths was the nfss leteHI,ew We nsd win
HIN, We thoueht Me wonld ait down and have a
on tue subject; the dsat thtcg tha. made un M
rnltd - was that Gtant was stndyluR uo tne
nnatcea. Hs - Nas luattng up his mind oa the
nnsneeh be would, Of cou1ee, eIerf certain
amount Of power. or rue- The dat thug which
ctoppsa out -, sna! be vas On h!s way 70 specie
nEst thing which struck aeloss NJ and it siruct
across Us WITH great deal Of surprise. We vent
INTO an argnmsnt Win him, 70 show that II gold
ror go forward A. ali, and no one would c,t.
some H. ~ ne home consumption could not
.SG TT i - up H. Il strusk se5o.s q. nke that
VINCE him that something enoald be done to Ar
range 70 get on This crop at a high price / re-
member one remark Gtner1l Grant made after We
had talked about an hour mud a half, tha. WAY
the bubble might IS v ell be nt!cked at one time
a. another. "A much as to ssy, II the crash had
10 come, It might as yell come 1t one time "a
and honey with us. aud to let the next fellows
stand the ornnt OF the crash. We want to seii
lonE acd let the new men have al! the durrJ.
hare all The trouble. In other words, We wan. tn
Eakc the money, rot 10 lose It, Bal General
Grant did lot Eeem 10 reason It quits that way,
went down TO Iao9 Dfancn. There Il no pppor-
lunltJ TO talk there; but Curing this tine MI.
Gould had become acquainted vita Mr. C;rbln,
could NOT disabuse hls nlnd: Dc paid mors
attention to It t1an l did, though am doing iii
the talking. He could not d!4aba.e his nina taat
gong 70 bring us up With rauud turn, to ruin u,
70 brtng us exactly where It has brought "a 70 the
destruction OF every mercantile interest ur1nn the
man making dollar who Is trading IL a1y,hlnr:
cur idea was to ace wheshet We could not 70 ) !,
!te pnrselng q this condition Of things; wo
Thought II ne could nlaKe them understand II,
they Tould reaotly fail IN with our way OF lhiak.
ing; "a l have said, We went Gown 10 Long
Branch. has d!d rot have any success In getting
noth.ng satisfactory trc7'.m ;ESe; =. =. xe gos
Long BRANCH 't. 'teTed inar esa1a ~s S,,sns Tsut 70
:: .Seinng toy pleasure, and did not mean to
devote any sacae 70 business, and rot much time
TO pisaaure, not mora than nve OF s.x months IN
q mt luf ~
tine n work; l think along tn duly he wss going
Nc IRE running two lines to Boston, one by Fal.
H!ver, not calilnx 81 Newport nnd the other rid
Newport which landed there, md which lerr New
York ar hall pant & Mr. Gould. on the artetooou
&c Tsa EotuR. VAS to come dosn TO the boat at
wrote q letter. II which he explained "a
showing there were 800 aau on the ray
and up the Mediterranean, loaded win grain
for London SID Liverpool: he told htm what We
had fofcseen IN our conversation aye or stx Heeta
at about 1ss.&; It was strong letter oi Tires
pager, aud he mixed me to taka 1t to General
Grant and hare talk with hlu1, aud II saw IL to
Lot sell gold, ne, Tor the aaEe Of getting tnls
transportation for The sake Of getting employ.
ment foE our i .oN o. ooo men whom We had
ss sSs n h,ap e. xr % S. svsa az
would 90 10, AID pnt lie Eold martet up to :" :
ae SsIe Te ss1d do1p 5sp s as s p s
BATON With General Grant. on Tho war 10 Nov.
Ro'' and s,sa at !he ,ns 1nsn n sfl General Grant
ssss. iSisVa e asooa ssooa .s!saph sae II iss
Boutwell,, and either have Boutwell, COME to New. ".
RSt Of aas aesos Ct the mater 50
We were 70 have conference On the subject j
leatnea u Inc 1s,er pa1t OF The week tua. ne had
not nfa'd Ha from NJ: BoutTell and We dil NOT &C
Ijnr1ng this time Mr. Goutl had beco one acaustn :.
Cd In conne ctlon With the Peterson L Newark
ttalltoa!, with ~, Gather rood, who married Nj.
This Sir. Caiherwcod was put forward a; an
earlier date saan nv - rropes person tor As
s'stant Ireasursr at New Iork. II seems they
as look AZ the matter now, Mr, Gould had made
up nis mind that the policy was nlain one to put
np gold. and that be would 20 in and deal IL
government would .tand s:ill aatu tie tie cro1 oS
Eas moved on. Not thinKtng CataerEood
Bntteffeld; they dropped CatherEood, aud sab.
stituted buiterdcids utterne.d; through Cor oin
hn1eIce vas CARED tulo the Asals,aa1 Treas.
uletthlp. 1t seems at that time Hit. Corbin had
EoTcd Of! OF high prices, and be vent one steE
f1t1her. that good deal of monty co3ld be made
oot ofiL II !ou know anything about Mr. Cornln,
: be Roes INTO aI,taipg he FenerailJ want. Hs
to tale all: when he resches up Tor any.
Thing be wants TO take everything there q Or
IL sea eSs sTsa sars shs s9e Il:
that any echehe he torches Hti1era. lie plooah,j
'restf t6ucned ah5 oEe hut Mr. Gould aud mysei
: to.h: 'cofbtt then conceived the idea that hf
naslIg Butter1eld u there, Ba1tc1neld feeling no
der mere Or iesA Obligation to Coron, there vas g
esq S. sss sst tHsee & ss e e e
turned cos, They conceived the inea that, viii
tuf power q cafE,nx yoid: Il they coult
o5 sanae T. NE PC ,o eooa @ deal Of none!
seemed 70 Eet against gold going up al! looked
r.ah7. and Nit. Goald might get himself into 10
stttou tet dte.ug gold up. 4 seemet, before
knew anything about i, Ar. Gould lad several IL
terEiews with Colbln-
Nj. Corbln had interviews wish General Grant
aCd A!r. Gou1d was 'niIoC uced 10 General Grant
E, ~ Go!n,n Hss Ts45 Tim IN he belief that b
and 'nele was the beginning Of this purchas,
q ,, gold; l., eAprss.s1 a., some y,e~s 10 e
snd Al as lie ssa VA, iaS9Ps s on;
70, bpt could haze gone in il had wanted to
Mr. Goc1', understand since, mad bought aho1
II Tne M e. oa me FIJI i e So,5 6s5
him that Mre. GraLt had i've hundred thousaut
dollars: General Porter had i've nunffed taou
saId, and he mad a million ard hail himself. /
was At his po,nt goi tuto the matter. Iii. Cor
rto told n Iais af!tr*ald. It raa along ID aho1
Septemner Is. q Id durtnE tina: time had keo
BEk lux 0Vh " 4Sls du4 mr. GtulQ EdQ FOL n
ca1petuaR full Of II I could see trou
ire way he VAS tearing up little pieces pf pane
aid throwing them arpuLd the 1oor. Every mat
nas Us ro1 t1es 1o sst tic nstese
about all Of his couso'atlou was when he BEGAN,
tb:I abd weak TO 20 OIL Ard counsel with hs nigh
m!Edeo friend, Mr. Cofb!p. When be came dow,
70 the Dtllcl be would rake "2 dose'' Of Cpfbtn
About the 18Th o. September. in the morolnc,
csue into rne once Gould sad to Me, There
4 no 9se taking. ,hss gold ls.purchased to- high
Eh6t f%,,r,1f thga
was l to him II had 80 much, II / were 81
loaded up with t. should invite hy she
bodied friends IN to help me bear sne Toke. hat
fof the reason that ne almost always speculate
together, a1d be did not eeem to saJ anything /.
me aboutit. ! went 30 fat as 10 get II into N,
Ec1n. determined would mol aay anything aboQ
It. lie had gore IN deep, aud seemed to ma!u,uiI
ftud!ed silence about II lie did not wish to "a!
an; snirs by wh,ch gold was 70 70 up We nsd ID t. t
pui our shoulders to The wheel, aud With tne deop
ring on in our earui1gs. I made up my miud, d
oa mna l Il s2d .a wS1d
to 1sa and thai 4 there wero oufy fourteen NIL
tors OF gcd in New York We could rsse II al,
noi It. sts1tsH IN that mo5nlnF through Hsa.'
buy gold saios VI. Gonta. "WneEe are yoa
nare Jcu auJ, understanding with slr Coiblu
as ns 81 ss1a ak oas Thee as sasoe; w
CoIbln had told hin that 10 gold was Il
coEe from the government, there was 60 tnuc!
gold he1c, and we can put Il up 70 t4s
and we shall not lose anything. He said, "W,
regulating a.onG 50 as 10 Keep It up to the lal
and 10 secure transportation for our road BY tae
movement Of the crops. He said the Idea tn send
ing up this shtrT was to 80 through with It. o.
tEat nos.tson1 stat:ed IN mssel1, without any M
defstandlng with him that was to share Ii hi
fcsset or bis prSnts. or he u mine. I made u
ny mind th4t II needed all lie power OF the bulls
and 1ou could get all Jou wanted 10 carry, Aud Il
henooyed nee to load up to Whist could carTr,
started. an1 found Gos what couid carry ever,
BIT Of It Gold when started in Was l3sk. Il hat
tscn down 70 ISL but got up there aG1tn before
| get u. Gould had gold enough 70 ha'f atsE .
ship. Ecscr knew al1 but he had plenty Of ii
| kaid 70 hi1n after commenced. - Give ma let
this af7az, that he had I,nt,erneld appointed trA
he hhouli get oil sns Information from rue gov
| erLI1ers and frou General Grant, and tna' he III