New Orleans Republican. [volume] (New Orleans, La) 1867-1878, 1870-03-06

of the warrant in favor of J. B. Richardson's,
Jr., for $7071. We also propose to Introduce
the vouchers upon which the warrants of
Kaufman were issued; the authority upon
which the Auditor issued them. The clerk
has gone for them. That is all we have for
this witness.
The examination of this witness here
closed.
TESTIMONY OF A. J. BoGEL.
A. J. Bogel, witness for the prosecution,
was called and duly sworn by the Secretary
of the Senate.
EXAMINATION IN CHIEF.
Question: By MT. Manager Lowell: What
is your name7
Answer: A. J. BOgel.
Q. Where do you live?
Q. Do you hold any official position under
the State government?
A. I am treasurer of the Insane Asylum
at jackson.
Q. In that capacity. hsve you ever made
any settlements with the Auditor?
A. l have.
Q. When?
A. Some time during the month of July
last.
@. State what that settlement was. and
what conversation you had with the Auditor
at that time.
A. 1 had an order on the Auditor for $500;
requested him to cut that UP into small war;
rants, to make them more marketable.
Q. Go on and detail the conversation.
A. The difference between large and small
| warrants was four per cent; for that
| reason l asked the Auditor to cut
| it up into small warrants. He said
| on account of the great pressure OF business,
| and the want of clerical force. he could not
do it unless l paid him two per cent. l
went on the market to see what would really
ho ha hat To- nd
warrants at the time. l found that it would
| be four per cent. then thought it advan-
| tageous to pay the Auditor two per cent IN
| order to have them cut up, and l acceeded
| to his proposition to pay two per cent,
| which was one hundred and fifty dollars OIL
| the seven thousand five hundred.
@. What did you pay that in?
A. In United States Treasury notes.
C. Did the Auditor then issue the war
| rants?
A. 1 did not pay him until had the war
rants issued to me; paid it afterwards.
G. In what denomination were the war.
| rants issued?
A. can not now remember; think about
one hundred dollars each; they may have
been smaller, but do not now remember.
Q. Do 70 ulremember any other transac-
ton with the Auditor in which your war
rants was changed into smaller warrants?
A. Not 1, individually; during my absence
from the city my brother attended to the
business, and the Auditor charged him also
two per cent on warrant OF five thousand
dollars, some time in December.
Q. By Mr.. Semmes, of counsel: That you
do not know personally?
A. Not personally, except that my brother
told me.
Q. By Mr.. Manager Lowell: Where does
your brother live2
A. He lived in New Orleans; he lives in
Jetfer son, Texas, now.
Q. Did you not state to the Auditor, that
it would be benefit to the institution for
these warrants to be issued in small demon.
nations?
A. did.
O. Did he decline to issue them in small
denominations
A. He did, unless he wass paid for it.
@. What reason did he give2
A. He said that he was pressed with bust
ness, and had but a small clerical force.
O. Do you know whether he employed
any more clerks to do this work.
A. do not.
Q. How long was you obliged to wait tor
the warrants?
A, think it was two or three DAYS.
Cross examination by counsel tor the &C
cused:
Q. Did you sell those warrants after you
got them?
A. Yes, sir, sold them afterwards.
Q. In what way did you sell them?
A. l sold them as warrants are usually
sold on the street, through the brokers.
@. Whom did you employ?
A. do not remember who | employed.
@. What price did you get for them?
A. do not remember that, unless l refer
to the books of the asylum.
@. Who did you sell them to?
A. I sold them in different amounts. They
being large amounts, could not sell them
to one person, except at sacrifice.
Q. You did not sell them at one time?
A. No, sir.
Q. How long did you keep any of them?
What was the last lot that you sold, in other
words?
A. The last lot, think, was at seventy
five cents.
Q. Was there much interval between che
first and second sale, or were they sold in
more than two lots?
A. The second lot of five thousand dollars
l sold that all at seventy-five or seventy
four. The first lot sold at about the same
price.
Q. Did you account for that to the Board
Of Administrators at the price you realised
for the small warrants, or the price realized
for the large ones?
A. Accounted to them for the net pro.
duct of the warrants.
Q. You can not tell what it was?
A. can not tell now, unless would re.
fer to the books. My accounts are approved
quarterly by the Board of Administrators.
9. Have you got your books here?
a. No, sir.
O. Your books are at Jackson, l suppose?
A. Yes, sir, at Jackson, Louisiana.
Q. You can not tell, then, at what price
you accounted for them to the Board OF Ad.
ministrators?
A: No, sir; I would not risk my memory
with that.
Q. Do you know at what price you solds
A. do not like to trust my memory with
that.
Q: And you do not know to whom you
sold them?
A. l sold them in different sums and to
different parties.
Q. Nor do you know through what broker
you sold them, do you?
A. sold these warrants direct to parties,
and if you wish to know something about
broker, will state another transaction with
the Auditor.
@. You said you sold them through a
broker. want to know who the broker is.
A. l do not remember what broker EN-.
ployed.
Examination in chief resumed:
@. By Mr.. Manager LEVEL: You speak Of
another anslctlon-what was that?
Mr.. Semmes, for counsel: That other
transaction must be charged in the articles,
if it is to be inquired into.
Mr.. Manager Lowell: 1t may have some
thing to do with the case; do not know.
Mr.. Semmes: think it would be better to
see what the charge is; the Bogel case is
article eighteen, believe. The ouly case
there is the one for five thousand dollars, for
which, it is alleged, he paid one hundred
dollars. I would like to confne the prose-
Mr Monoonr IoUall. mada the ineriry