The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1870-06-22

q. AMI reported what you nao discoveries .Hefs
reported vcrSay IN two cases. in the nrsttwo In
Q. Have J YOU "a copy Of your last reportf 4. No.
SIR Mr.. stanton and Mr.. Seward botn saw the pa
pers and examined them Of neadqnarsefrs s ,,. a'a
O. where did you go after that on secret seryicef
A. vent into the Confederate lines second tune.
smnaged myself through.
o. Where did you 60 when yon passed through
the Confederate lines went to Petersburg, ana
O. As you were on secret service, you need not
state particularly, unless you choose 10 40 20 what
anything which would be violation Of your per
sonai honor. A. There is one point TO which
sgh 10 cs ~ next Ssness
look after pot that was supposed 70 he
In existence to burn Northern cities and the ship
was ~ 70 the best plan 70 meet II. snpp0sng the
plot To be fixed fact and one OF very great mpor-
lance was os na me At nss
TO meet the case undertook the work OF ferreting
that thing out and going TO the fountain head: for
gained access TO gentleman who was acting at the
time as the head OF the chemical department OF the
sha not give o ns 81 aa ine
committee privately; he had been employed to pnt
up composition TO be placed In the hands 81 the
work, and appointed by the Confederate governments
ior that purpose. gor access 10 MIN ana lound
bio hsart an4 ~ man k wi' nte a,he WITH him
succeeded in inducing him. by practical expert
ment, TO get up composition that would burn Tor q
given time as though Il would burn the world up,
and then extingnlsh itself. He got up hrst com,
position that was very infammable that only had 10
be touchedwith match and 1t went on at once like
friction match. He put up another substance in
ball about the size OF hens egg or perhaps little
larger, which was inclosed In THIS outer very innam-
mabie substance, and when fire was touched 10 this
ball II burned very vividiy for moment, and the
moment 1t struck this inside composition IL would
der and extinguish itself at once We experimented
IN room where he and were locked together with
straw and hay; and ! saw that the thing was per-
fecty satisfactory, and made the arrangement with
him TO have the plan carried out to have that used
IL cos. me between 81. 200 and s., 200.
nose contemnaied nv them in hnrninS our Northern
cities and our shipping.
q. by conIriving q match which would extinguish
itself and would not take efectY A. Yes, sir.
z. Did the person to whom y0u have alluded who
was making this match understand your ObjectP A.
Yes, STR; he understood my object.
q. And that was his object also A. Yes, sir.
Y. He was acting in concert with your A. Yes
q. Had he been employed by the Confederate au-
th0rities TO make this MATCH A. Yes. sir.
q. And the Confederate authorities had authorized
ss 70 Sas IN A SorSen
and John Q, breckenridge was leading man In 1t.
! want 10 call your attention now to
ments reference to this matter. l watched
the thing very closely and perhaps remember 1t
w aa eus sd
so well carried out 70 certain point, did not sue
coed in one solitary instance. BY examining the re-
you will find that number OF attempts were made
in New York, IN Boston and In Philadelphia.
think remember none In Baltimore, for they rather
liked Baltimore. am not certain but that there
were some attempts in Washington city. A number
OF our steamboats, and shipping were sought to be
tempts did not succeed In one solitary instance.
examined the reports IN every case, and 1t was gen.
orally said that the fire was discovered just In time
to extngulsh IT, | remember one case where II
was stated that a servant girl In New York heard
strange noise in room, and she got in just In time
to find that O fire had been kindled and put 1t OUT
In every instance 1t was stated that some one acci
dentalty happened to 60 into the room and dis
cover what was going on In time to ext.nguish the
fire.
O. SO that the failure was intentional on the part
OF this person who was contrlving the match A.
1t arranged that IL could not be Otherwse 1t
was concerted plan; the match was to be put down.
say on bed, and the party that was to touch it
on was to get out OF the way at once or as soon as
possible, surprising the thng was all right; IT would
burn as though 1t would burn the world up for o
few moments, perhaps half minute ana then ex-
tinguish Itself.
q. SO that the whole thing was mere shown A.
Not on the part OF those engaged in 1t.
@. But on the part OF the inventor and contriyer
OF the match? A. Yes, SIT.
Q. He led the Confederate authorities to suppose
that he was acting in good faith for the purpose OF
doing TINS extensive mischief, while al the same
time he was acting In bad faith toward his employ
ers Yes, SIR.
o. III you ANTICIPATE tnaC any injury would result
to the inventor OF this match by disclosure OF his
name, do not see why it should be discl0sed9 A.
prefer not 10 state 1t publicly; will state 1t 70 any
/ could divulge, but II should do so the result
would be my ASSASSINATION. Still, II you gentlemen
VIII require it, everything shall come out have 40
secrets. 1 gave my life to my country, and never
expected IL TO last as long as 1t has.
Q. Where was your interview with this inventor
OF the match was 1t at Richmond A. Yes sir
O. Where did you 60 them A. came back into
our own lines and reported to Mr.. Lincoln.
q Verbally or In writingp A. In writing.
O. What has become Of your rep0rt2 A. do not
know; have not seen 1t.
O. What nexts A. next went to the Governor
Q. Under the orders OF Mr. Lincoln A. At the re-
quest OF Mr. Lincoln.
q. Who was the Governor Of New York at that
Q. Did you have an interview with him; and II so,
what was it2 A. had an interview with him by
Mr. u @ y To- an 10 nj NM i entirely
connected with 1t. Mr.. Lincoln wished me espe-
ciay to state to him the fact that had ELECTED from
that they were fighting for their independence and
he had repeated 1t to me under the head OF three
different propositiSSn n handependence We win
requested me to state these facts TO Governor Sey
mour, which did. spent three days with him in
private, and ne seemed rather 10th then TO let me
go. first LAID the plan oil bringing Governor Sey.
mour here to have an interview with Mr.. Lincoln,
for found the Governor IN different
pected to find him, and left him in a
very different state Of mind but finally adopted the
plan OF getting Governor Seymour and Governor
Andrew, Of Massachusetts, together. | went to Bos
ton and brought Governor Andrew to New York, and
then went to Governor Seymour at Albany again.
aud brought him TO New York, and paid the ex-
penses Of both Of them on the way, and paid their
expenses while they were IN New YORK. for the pur
pose Of getting Governor Seymour to two points
first that he should his opposition to the adj
ministration-New YORK was considered big insti.
tuition at that time and It was thought we could not
very well do without mis- innuencefrst to cease his
opposition TO the administration In Its vigorous
prosecution OF the war; and second, to furnish his
quota OF troops Governor Seymour pledged himself
TO Governor Andrew and myself that for the future
he would comply most strictly with our requests.
O. What was the date OF that pledge, as near as
you can remember A. Just alter the Presidential
election; think 1t was about the middle OF NOvem.
Der.
q. Did you report this to Mr.. Lincoln2 A. Yes,
sir; in writing; you will ind on examining the
records that alter that nothing more was heard Of
Governor seymour IN opposition to Mr. Lincon's ad
ministration and he responded promptly 10 every
call after that; watched him very closely.
Q. The narrative you gave TO Mr.. Seymour respect
ing your conversation with Jefferson Davis in your
judgment, had a iavorabie eject upon Governor Sey
mour's mind2 A. It had not only favorable effect
but it made him different man, and SO it did every