The New York herald., 1870-05-27
IMPORTANT FROM ROME.
Cardinal AnlOnell and Herald Special
Correspondent in Conference.
His Fminence Expounds the Materialistic
Situation-War. Finance, Diplo-
sm a macy and Debts
Meteorological Science Touched, but
the Spiritualities Deferred.
Health of the Pope-FaIli-
bic or InfaIlible. a.

bic or InfaIlible.
One OF our correspondents In the Holy City reports
underneath the progress and result OF special con-
ference which he has just hal with Cardinal An
toneh at the Vatican. His Eminence the CARDINAL
Secretary OF State as Will be seen, exp0unded tine
matersllistic stuatl0n-military, financial, dipl0
matte ana scientific foreign and home-with great
force and acunen 10 our representative. or th,
spirliualteS, tle Council and its probable conse.
quences bo b mere an hereafter, the Roman states
man was almost silent, at least i0r the present.
Herald Special Writer in the Vatican.
ROME May Q. 1876.
Having secured an interview with CARDINAL Anto.
neli, went TO the Vatican Palace this morning and
had long conversation with that eminent parsonage
Itcund MIN In an excelicnt taking humor, so was
enabled TO have quite free chat with his Emnence.
He occupies the third floor Of the Vatican, holding
there his Olce and his residence whenever the 20 70
sojourns In thar palace. The past winter both have
been putting up there account OF the sessions OF
the council held In the adjoining baslca OF ST. Peter.
The Cardinal s Of course always In close proximity
TO his Holiness who has the first and second MOO s
Of the building for his Papal household. After as
cendlng the Six spac Gus and magnificent marble
starways leading to the upper story and getting by
busly walking to and fro In their black and yellow
striped costumes OF the Middle Ages including he-
met and habe d, engaged, for the most part. hat
ting In swiss Dutch. After passing numerous little
bevies of dome tics In red drapery and cannterer5
IN attendance a. the doors Of his Holiness apart
;neDts, was usheIed In the first ante. chamber OF
the Cardinals ONCE. or the Department OF
state for Foreign Affairs In this ante-cham-
Der cards are taken by another usher.
dressed IN the priestly black gown. Here I OBJ
served several small fry OF the order OF priests,
sitting on ordinary chairs, like SO many spectres
armed with much patience, while waiting for tie
honor Of being admitted TO the august presence OF
the divinity OF the spot who has quite reputation
FOR making la plue ct le beau temps, Justly or un-
justly. Preceded by my second usher, observed
and passed on into the sec ond ante-chamber which
adJoins the Cardinals sanctum. In this second
chamber found myself among several high arch
bishops and bishops, one or two ladies' ana dipo-
mat OF one OF the foreign legations Here the furni
ture was chic; nice velvetcushioned chairs, rich
curtains. fine tapestries. and pictures on tae
walls were all the 90, and the distinguished visitors
were no longer 30 many spectres, but wdgged their
tongues as they had somewhat of right to do 80.
Not enjoying the privilege OF being either one OF the
better half Of humanity, or Q diplomat, or great
dignitary Of the Church. my turn OF audience came
next alter that OF the grandees assembled but had
not to walt long, for after Q short admittance
granted to each the Cardinal would Invariably pop
out at his door, as II hurrying them all away while
nttering the curt vaedlctory, "Bonjour," with
peculiar Italian and oily accent tho arst syllable
OF that word.
On my cncring the sanctum he received me stand.
ing, gave me o cordial shake hands, and motioned
me to take seat with him tSte-o-tete. HIS
manner must say was free and easy, and through
out our conversation he talked In the most friendly
and familiar style.
CARDINAL ANToNELL1 AS He is.
Cardinal Giac0mo Antonelll has now attained his
sixtyfourth year, bavng been born at Sonntn0 viii
Iage on the frontier between Rome and Naples April
2, 1906. He does not appear over nifty at present,
mis- physical appearance being wonderfully youthful
Tor his years. Ills family was originally almost In
state OF rustclty but possessed OF some property.
AS youth he entered the priesthood. which has
borne him to his present high, powerful and
wealthy position as the Popes Prime Minister.
He is now many times millionaire and has all that
ne could desire, except the Romagna or the old Pon
uical territory, which he ruled, but which
was ten years ago. wrested from his grasp, not
withstanding his adroit intrigues and laundering
iespat launched at the head OF Cavour when
those two Italian wrestlers In diplomacy had ther
splendid bout together Cavour had the strongest
backer--Napoleon Iu.-and won the game. AnroneIll
had the misfortune to be backed only by Francis
Joseph OF Austria. They say that he privately con-
sders all diplomacy to be much vanity OF vani les
since that Gay, having ost all gard ior humanity,
princes and p!i.cp aiities, except very spiteful
Que, He has four brothers here, all wealthy and
well sliced or with the P0ntiGcal cake, one
others IA high ecclesiastical ohice. he
enjoys the reputation OF taking care Of his
family, which he alone has drawn out Of obscuriy.
Strange o. IL may SOUND nere, he s pbatically
of The self made men OF the times Since IS49, or
she position secretary of State, and during tins
period won reputation as D man OF brains and
adroitness unsurpassed by none and equalled by
few in Europe. lie 10 cultivated, both In lie and
letters, his intellect beng characterized by quickness
ftiI plight lnio which be his rule and his dominons
are now cast being due TO the fact that he had
any very heavy battalsons at his back-1or really q
Dope's soldiers do not ccun. Here all accord INN
tne honor OF possessing long head" and ne IS
never was known to be beaten in o game where Gun
ming cou d gain tue mastery Withal, many quaint
stories circulate In regard to him ahd his fortunes;
he ENJOYS that ting called prestige. and passe for
most charming, fascinating, unctuous gentleman
towards al aud Q special admrer Of the la lies
although he himself wears gown At ihe head Of
great Ssa,e he would most probably have dole
wonders; as IL as his chief victories haze been won
by sheer superior nseae J. bv ruse in place where
hand work. Even the Josuits, with all their will
ness have never been too many for him
As took my seat near him observed him as much
as possible duling tw1nkling, and was not sur
prised to see that on his part he gave ely, under
tlons, 10 see, doubs, If had come to ask him the
history o. al the ecumenical councils, past present
and future. Whether he was reassufed by the glance
against useless and lesden importantly about coun-
CHS In gene oil ald particular or not the fact Is, that
Dy the tlme we were seated the futstylsstnla emf
1seftso" aud your correspondent were talktng along
as no cares Oh State weighed on his shoulders and
as though he was perfectly unconscious oil small,
anu ever 80 delicate mint for speech, speech
being addressed to lin. He has very ordinary
look un II ne chooses TO remove the hazy film III
Wnlcn ne keeps his eyes covered up then he bears
a RAT poO
French, with decided ital an accent
THE DECALoGUE-MAKING AND IILUsTRlrrNG urs.
TORY.
CORRESPOyDENT-Ih have peen passing the winter
IN Rome and would have called TO see YOU before
but that knew your occupat ons Were numerous
more especially at this period, when me Council has
been sitting, and 80 many distinguished foreign per
sonages have also been taxlng your time.
CARD1NAL--YOu are very good TO come to see me:
j am charmed to see you. Yes, have been very
much occupied indeed. You have been D 49,
Ing the winter here; how have you liked