The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1870-06-25
THE WAR UP IN WINNIPEG
A SETTLEMENT ny 4 HUDSON'S BAY
GOVERNOR JUST IRRITED.

Needed to Run tho Govcrnmcut-A Cow
crnor must Go IL In shirt and Trousers
i'm Manitoba.
A member of the Sun stof last evening called
On the Hon. William Mnc;avish, who for the last |
fourteen years has been Governor Of the Iludsons |
Bay possessions and OF sekrk settlement, with |
residence at Fort Garry His Excellency left Fort |
Garry about the middle Of last month tMay) and Is
now stopping at the Brevoort House in this city.
lie Is In feeble health aud Is his way to Engla nd
with his family
Gov. Mactavish has n head like Henry Clay's
with enormous perceptlve faculties. lie Is gentle
man Of fine scientific culture and shrcwd common
sense. On entering his psrlor at the Brevoort
House, after having sent up our letter OF introduc
ton, we found the Governor reclining in an easy
chair, and evidently much overcome with the op-
prcssivo heat. Courteously salutng us, he said.
with much effort:
"will you please make your inquiries as brief IS
possible, speak with great difficulty, and cannot
hold prolonged conversation"
Roporter-I will consult your wishes, sir Per-
| haps II would be agreeable 10 you TO postpone
the interview. II 80, II win give pleasure to call
| whenever II most suits your convenience.
Gov Mactlvish--It IL not likely that shall ever
| be any better, sir. Please to proceed.
Reporter What was the melting, pivotal cause OF
tho rebellion, or late troubles, in the Winnipeg
eounryf
| the GOVERNOR DECLINES TO STEAK.
| Gov. Maotavish-I cannot tell you, cir. do not
think It would be proper for me to say anything on
that subject. I have been Governor OF that Terri
| tory for fourteen years, aud should anything be
| published as from me In relation to those difficult
ties, my statements might DO construed as being
personal; thoy might also be misin;erproted, and
they might occasion complications and troubles
which no one could have imagined would flow from
them For all these reasons, and for others also,
decline TO say anything whatever on political mat
tiers.
| any items OF general information concerning the
winnireg country. which would be OF interest to
| the publicf
Gov. Mactavsh-No, sir. Ihave nothing to say
| whatever.
Rcporter-You must have gathered a vast deal Of
scientific information concerning the region over
which you have ruled for the last fourteen years.
You win pardon me ior taking TIE liberty o. re,
unappeasable hunger for scientific knowledge and q
memory which permits nothing to escape which
once comes within its grasp.
| Gov Mactavish-I have devoted oil my leisure
time TO scientific pursuits, and have made close Oh
scrvations OF the soil, climate, features, and re-
sources OF the country. had TO do something OF
the kind to keep from rusung down into an oyster.
ish Possessions in the Northwest. | see It stated
that you raise sixty bushels Of wheat to the acre
there, and have a sure crop every year.
INTERPRETATIONS EXPOSED.
Gov Maciavish with increasing onergy)-That Is
not have repeatedly stated tlatit Is not good
agricultural country. The climate is too uncertain.
Twelve returns-that is twelve bushels OF wheat for
every bushel sowed. which gives US twenty-Iour
bushels to the scrc--is q high average crop. In
twelve or sixteen b9siels to he acre Las, year
had forty bushels IN some places. but that Is un-
usual; have known frost SO heavy there on nc
! never know wnen frost will come. The wheat is
killed every year in large matches OF country, especi
r ally the axes. Lake Winnipeg Ia not open till
June Chilly winds blow from it, and send cold
Q iogs over the country, and these generate frosts
| We raise no Indian corn there at ALL
Reportor-Arc the farmers there mostly English'
c Gov Maetavisn-No; there ere not many Eng 6.
( | lish there. The Immigrants are mostly Scotch.
Rcporter-What was your form of governments
GOV Mactavish-Thcre the Governor.
The influence OF the Government wns cf personal
c nature, rather than an official or political one
| Rcporter-lt was patrarchal then, IN TACT, II not
Gov. Mactay-h-Yos, st va. po,r,s-chh.
Reporter-Were the Scotch inclined to be rebel
Gov Mactavish-No. nor were any Of the lnhabi-
tants. The native population-the aifbreeds--are
9 poaceable. They are ignorant, hut they trust
worthy. and are men OF good common sense.
Reportcr-ihere does not seem u bayo been any
material there fer q rebellion, thenf
Coy. Mactayish--None at all The Canada trad
who came OF there were the only discon ten TOD
persons. They were adven,urers with hardly
COPPER to rub, and no character. MeKenny one
. | OF them, and Schultz was another Thoy were IL
partnership and got iuto difficulty, and finally di
yided what goods they had between them wihou
e looking carefully TO tie rights OF their creditors
The people became bitterly ueensed against Schultz
,. and looked upon him rs bad man, Unfortunately
| when tfON hGDOugnl came out there he tool
l. Schultz as hi. chief adviser This at once SGT The
r. people against him. They extended their prejudice
4, against schultz to the Governor, and u was thence
> forth impossible for him to gain their confidence
D. My government was wiped out, and before that O
j. Gov hcDOural could be made legally operative
IN was necessary for the Queen 10 issue her proclama
W ton This Her Majesty did not do. McDouga
ie had his royal commission as Governor, hut It wa
~ Should give it vitslty. MeDougal issued a proclu
4 nation himself which he thought would serve ii
err government is wiped out and there IS no new 60,
ID eminent put in It's place and so We win haze pro
y, royal commission and asked the people to look
10 the Queens signature They dit look at I, bu
.; tys signature not. They a practical. honest
smpe people and do not care farhns for oGisi
:, mcnt. hat a man can't do in his
2 SHIRT AND TROUSERS
1t out there, he can't do at ALL The robes OF ono
. won't help him bit. There is nothing there for
20 ponderous governmental machinery to operate upoJ
r The influence OF Governor and the magistrate
y must be personal. and AZ pervasive as the atmo
Or obey them, and not otherwise Wnen Judge tina
a they trust makes decision, they accept It as IN
T. law but when Judge that they distrust makes
T. decision, they will regard IL as the law. Cover
Is ment is practical thing out there, to be admiu
e. people, Ii Governor hcDougll had got few
4 YANKEES
m from Idaho or Minnesota 10 set his Government
In motion, they could have done 1t for him without an
trouble. Nv friend Hail out there, the blaeksmit
Nv from Oregon, would have set the Government In rul
4 ming order, complete In all It's branches In 81
IT, months. lilo IL a practical man, ana understand
~ | the people, and knows what kind of covernmeI
~ tbey need and they have confidence in him, Such
Ce blacksmith carry the day out there against an
"a | royal Governor.
ss / feel sorry for McDoural He Is statesman an
nd gentleman OF ability, but he did not understand t
people. Schultz, who was his chief adviser and on
"A OF the chief causes of his failure Is great Tic
~ | IN Canada see II the Canadians Would take Il
,a trouble to learn the truth about him, and about
lc- pretended loss OF p'opeIS IA 'he oehaA' 'heS WV
he drop MIN at once.
nd Reporter-How about the battles that have taxi
place out thoref
Gov. MGetayisll-There has never been bait
there. A war would ruin the country aud leave
desOlate. / do not think there will be any wa
Toe people will accept the terms which the Can
n dams now oler and which, believe, are Lieut.
Of | ami. Governor with an appointed Council OF five
cd seyen and legislature consisting Of an upper a
hi lower house, elected by the people, the Territory
81. | be called Manitoba.