The New York herald., 1870-12-02
HERALD FRIDAY, DECEMBER q ls7O-TRIPLE SHEET

flrst 70 repe hostile Indians, and next 70 reprcss
Jon he sS. y ss every cssn 70 bear
arms; Congress gives 70 eacn Territory . quota OF
srms Now We claim ana exercise me night % arm
bat, unlike them, we pay for the weapons we carry
out or our pockets. The United STATES government
cannot demand us 10 give them up, because tney
the private properly OF our cIzens. The militia
II not under arms now, for the reason that there s
an aUy SIarser an and am s~tsaed we anal not be-.
Should Congress pass laws calculated to alter our
present condiiIon we should,
WHILE PROTESTING, SUBMIT QUIETLY.
cannot understand why you MAKE such row
mere about the militia OF tie Territory; surely the
powerful government OF s0,oo0,000 OF people cannot
ne afraid Of the military organization Of 100000 peo
pie living on the Pans Of the lar West. The idea 8
absurd. To sum up the whole aIIair, this outcry
against us IL got up by Interested parties for heir
Cwn private ends. Tue worst feature In 1t IL that
these ruirans are aided and abet.cd by the United
REpoRTER-But Mr.. Young is there not some
outcry against The government OF yonr iather by
Mormons III uIah itseli--the scnismatics9
tance having
ExIELLESr INTENTIONS, BUT LACKING BRAINS.
Tney started with some projects OF REFORM to most
OF which We all subscribed but they grew wild and
purst up. They amount In NUMBERS, l believe. to
aoouI Hlty, and are now more Spiritualists than
anything else. OF course they cannot exercise any
power Tor Hood or evil In the Territory out or It,
Ihe Chtrch In Utah s more powerful, compact and
prosperous than ever, and ID daily increasing N
wealth and strength. There has been no schism In
1t worthy Of mention, and there s not likely TO be
any. Ol course. Mr1
THERE ARE "RINGs'' THERE,
Just ss there are rings here. You have your Young
democracy and so have We But what do they
REPoRTER--So, then you feel so secure that you
have no fears for the fufnre, notwithstanding the
threats OF interference BY Congress In ysur pecu-
liar instutionsn
At this point in the conversation, and at the WORD
Compress" Mr. Hooper could no Longer restrain
hls feelings ana broke out In eloquent assault on
all anti -Mormons.
Mr.. HooPER--The bill OF 1872, making II punish
able BY fine and Imprisonment Tor any man to have
MORE qHAN ONE WIFE,
was the entering wedge Of persecution. Then came
the CGllom bill, which SO excited our people. The
the Executive signature. The other Is In force but
does mol amount 10 much. But see the injustice Of
rsbd raose Oppressive actss the McArdle case you VIII
o law prohibiting an appeal from a verdict
United States. An appeal 10 that lofty tribunal
might be had In civil suit, but In criminal
case Now, observe now this works in Utah.
UNDER THE oDiOus '62 LAW
a Mormon may be tried before packed jury, SEN
fenced ~ partisan judges, 1ned and imprisoned
II there was way OF appeal to the Supreme Court
the present condition OF affairs In Utah could not
last We would sosn have test case. ana then, l
am certain, the nnconstltutionality OF the ,62 law
would be pronounced. But, as / said we
are now bound, hand and foot, to the
who rule the territory OF Utah. do not, SIR, anti.
c,pate much excitement IN Congress this session
over Utan affairs, and ! do net know If shall say
anything myself on matters apPertainlng to the
Territory.
SHOULD AN OPPORTUNITY OFFER,
hsweyer, shall call attention to the facts have
stated. Congress may
st. JOSEPH A. untsrrupting)-T am simple citizen
and have nothing 70 say. l know nothing about
political affairs, and am here only on personal,
private business. VIII ysu come down town. Mr..
Hooper, 1888 tt
REpoRrER-T am grateful, gentlemen, for your val.
uable inIormation ana new bid you COED day.