The New York herald., 1870-08-12

KNOW ioI what III had been used possibly IN repair
lug the moor; that was not all the conversations nc
| spoke OF housekeeper; he rec0ected that ON one
occasion the door was open, and he remarked about
shut 1t; he spoke OF Mrs. Kely's son, who assisted
his mother; he said the son had been IN the
the house house "1n be SAID SAID iuc.aer about the
dog that he recognized IL a. svu ~ he saw II as the
ne said he thought Mr. Nathan oaie up nom jersey
! In public conveyance ana that the cOachnan was
in the country; We had some general conversation
also about this matter; he expressed sorrow for the
! family and hoped the murderer would be discovered
by the Distrlct Attolney-Did he ever express any
mad In the stableG A. No. sir; that
was the impression ne left on my mind
think his words were, ~ knew 1t as soon as saw
IT." he said it was about as long the poker but
hardly and that it was bigger
BY a juror Mr.. Williams is no relation OF mine;
have been lawyer twenty years; looked upon
what was said as crushing upon the coachman or
some other person.
q. As lawyer, with your mind trained as law
YER your attention was called to the significance
ard importance OF this fact, and you called his at
tention to itr A. Yes, SIR; called his attention to
"rr LOOKS pARK,v
or something OF that kind mentioned this crcum-
stance to Mr. Mccoy at the dinner table by the
merest accident, and the next morning saw about
1t In the HERALD; detective Farley called upon me
IN s Iys ana m assa ne nu e s a q was ne
said did not endorse any mans paper. but that IL
was substantially true; j mad conversation With
detective Farley about the conversation had with
MI. Williams
Testimony Of Clara Dale.
Clara Dale sworn and examined-Reside at lo4
Washington Nathan; saw him on the evening OF
the murder about halfpast seven O'Clock; lett him
about eight O'Clock; met him again on that evening
al nine and let him ten minutes past twelve he was
in my company during that time.
Testimony o, William Kelly.
William Kelly sworn and examined
T. What Is your n me? A. William Kelly.
q. Where do you resides A. IL West Twenty third
street.
q. How long have you been in this country A.
Gong on eleven years.
Q. How old were you thenG A Going on about
thirteen.
Q. what was your first business9 A. went to
Q. What school did you go tor A. st. Patrick's
q: Where did yon 60 when you came rrom that ?
A. To work.
Q. where9 A. At a hat factory. SRA af
q. How long did you go TO school? A. Altogether
about two years-three or four years. that was when
| trst arrived In this country
z. Whose hat factory did you work at? A. Boyle's,
IN CHI and Front street.
Q. Where did you live at that nmes A. Eleventh
Q. What was your salary A. do not know.
z. How long did you remain there2 A. was
Q. Where did you go from there2 A. I worked ior
plumber and gasdtter In Eighteenth street; that
was in 1851 or 1862
%. Where did you 20 from therep A. / went TO
work down at the corner OF Broome street.
z. AZ what businesss A. Silver plating.
Q. Who did you work for there? A. MIR. Hart
Q. DID you at any time work Tor Mr.. Underhill?
A. Yes, SIR have.
O. What timeg A. In 1853 or 1884.
Q. How long were you at work for hims A. Wei,
about year altogether am not certain about
dates DO not commit these things to memory.
z. What did you do aiIer you left there2 A. ! was
III The army.
G. Where did you enlists A. Lawrence, Mass.
Q. How came you to 20 there to enIlsty A. just
went there TO enlist.
Q. asked you the reasons that inuuced you 10 go
there? A. went TO enlist there.
q. For what reason? A. To go into the army: that
Is all the reason had-no other reason; was out
OF employment and could not get work.
q. You could have enlisted here A. / suppose so;
had no special reason to go there.
q. Who did You go with A. couple OF youn
Q. What regiment did You go in A. The Twenty
eighth Massachusetts, Captain Page.
z. DID those men win you enlist alsoY A. No, sir.
G. Have you seen them since your return from the
q. Are they in New York now! A. have not
seen them for year.
O. Dd they take yon there to enlist? A, Yes, sir.
q. What bounty did you receive A. Five hun
dred dollars.
Q. Was that all the bounty given to recruits at
that timer A. do not know; II might nave been
$1,000, perhaps $500 is all got
q. Why did not You receive as much az anybody
else? A. do not know; suppose The other TWO
fellows got the rest.
Q. what entitled them to lt2 A. do not know
Q. How long oid you stay in the armys A. TIL July,
Q. What were the circumstances that compelled
yo to leaver A. was discharged.
Q. Have you that discharge now ? A. No. sir.
q. You have not your discharge? A. IL is home
at some place III the house.
q. Then it Is IN your possession? A. Yes. sir; |
think otiicer Bennett took II down yesterday.
q. When you came home from the army where
did you liver A. Eleventh street.
@. What did you DO there? A. did not do any,
thing; had 10 go 10 the hospital
Q. How long were you IN the hospital? A. From
the 29th OF August TO the ed OF October.
q. Were you discharged on account OF beng
woundedy A. Yes, sir, and disability too.
q. Alter leaving the hospital what did you do
nextY A. | went home; could not work.
o. After you recovered nom your wounds what
did you dor A. stopped home.
q. From the time you came ont Of the army up
TO the present time what have you doney A. have
worked in Mr. MCGEE place, in Barclay street
since YOUR return IRON the army A. Yes sir.
q. How long after you came out of the hospital
did you work for this MANI A. went 10 work for
him III March, 1863.
O. Up 10 what tune? A. Up till May, 1869.
O. What was your salary thereg A. Four or ave
dollars week.
O. Have you done anything since that time? A.
Nc. sir.
O. Has your mother any other place of abode ex-
cept Mr. Nathans. A. Not at the present time
q. What did you do at Mr. Nahan's A. ! attended
round the house, went OF eriands cleaned The shoes,
swept Off the sidewalk and did anything TO he done
about the house.
9. What salary did you receive? A. received no
salary.
Q. WhU was in the mouse on the ulght of the mur
der besides the laQily and yourseltS A. No one
sir, 10 my knowledge.
O. Where did the coachman and groom reside?
A. The coachmGn slept IN the stable
O. Does our mother support your A. Yes, sir.
O. Al, then, mat you received al Mr.. Nathans
was your boardy A. Yes, sir.
q. How long have you been sleeping In Mr..
Nathans house? A. Four summers.
Q. Have you no recollection OF any man being In
the house the day prior to The MURDER A. No, sir,
except The two carpenters and tue mason and the
laborcrs
O. At any time during the employment Of these
men did you any strangers IN the house? A.
No. sir.
O. What time did you get up on Inc morning OF
the Goth Of Juiy2 A. About half-past Ave or SIX
o'ciock-my usual time Of rising.
u What is the first thing you usually do when
you get up2 A. go down stairs, sweep OF the side
walk. black the shoes. take them up stairs. go out
and sweep the yard and go on any errands that
want to be done.
q What time do you generally breakfaatH A.
About eight O'Clock.
O. DO the family breakfast before or after that
a. After.
Q. what do y0u do alter breakfast a. stop IN
the house and attend 10 the door bell.
o. is that portion Of your duuesY A. Yes, sir
q. AT all times when you are In the house? A.