, 1870-03-02
hs was stuT DEBTOR, 10 that he had mpae, or
lys II nt1 nAnd67 a. We hhd q suaulnv A.

It has Lot been Gettled. Il t9 Al open acco,,t
q. WEat cotvessst.ou oce1.,sd between Ne.
stfKuan ara yours:t on me occasion .; ta.s
o.ter, toucniDR the coa1se Of poii: \. l Il, no:
recoIlec: distinctly Tie conversation. 1telsnest
o. Sts'c II, a. ucaE as you reconec:; ANY
impression Is that said to . N twhat k.nz W,
~ eeMef at r. tssDe}, that never h.ie7z,j ro,i
ya!ae N0s cc'1ttouP. ara conli rot be mgct4,1ea.
tnar it wa& artificial ~ specula.oc. aad tna, /:
vo1lc eests!nly tal by Iss o*a weight.
prox,ma:e1y settles, 70 that ynn know .ta.1er
You unde Of los. ia tse tssnssst:nn: i. 10; i,
liz s. Jay pay ;oa s az psas ares out ct M.
transaction 4. 6reE enns money froaa HI
srl.eman c1 one Of two occasions. small sn ,u1ts,
notion. They arose from general aecnas' a. BE-
coming from The transaction.
Q. fRendIng !;om the testimony OF Joseah Sal
sau ssfg tn3soa 1.os tue hes, sale 9: soa ,u.Ia
S.atea houds, which the 1rm carried, Is TN.
Mase It cc1:ect statsnntnt: Itr.s ta.io1 nrn ~
the ones. ai be to ssii earring to1hs Tor up.
Tras you'd make II, a. Eate'', az npsn scc.lnt.
[ Nj. sel,gGap. seed aty mss1azes 10 t'n. !us.na
the patio week: a. co no: thsoA 'd,
Q. D:d you send word 10 h'n 10 COME a. a2i see
yon: 4. rtsnt bsve done 20. ,~>
Q. Did re cnme ID and see yeu hu.:E7 t1at
= Rs;s, KS ee az !ssa IN ras W. x,v an
| trar ssc:'oEs With the Treasury. he b. I 40 a.
| rauRenent With the Treasury before wen1 t1ere,
made ui,h General sanr er at Waan!r3ton. fsr :hs
tsatsfer Of currency from CAl!tosrls, and Ter the
/ placing gold IN the Treasury hete a1t faeiax IT
ont IN Caitt-ru!a. thcs saE!nR the roVsrsncat :ns
ton Of that kind would come up IA soaps 'nas
did net understand c.eaEy, and roai SEED FOR
nm to rake a. exp'an atiop, H. T1o = OF a 1nses asy
| would not carry them cut III, sl,es sele1raphcs
to Washington about them. and IN tnat way fre.
aoentJ srLt tot hitu 10 AK him 81 10 the stl-e Of
thE cafe ard what cortespondesce and evidence
he mad On tae p3;Es. AID fs often called en- tnese
| o, 10 at , Of fh-se ip+erv'sxa ID ys1 convsrac
| win Nil. se'Enan c0lce.n'nz the co1rsa OF xoid
ard corcef1l.H J07T tratRactiDn win hiU, anu
Ia nay have done r. III. s:asm.as memor5 il
probably more c-rrect II reaara to i. .,.,
| q. Do yna regard Sir Sa.guau as truthful
| mac A. ! talEk So hare every reason 10 be-
O. can gen ssy tha' 5oo did 20: have coz
/ reisa'1on vita h.n cnNcern!ca seus ssansae,ton
nr 81 N ns % pfooae resev,or Of eols
H. Hass1 an in.n saS ,es .esy ~ ssae Sa7
uct, .aud 1o1 cnp1ran'cs MN A.. @ wo1ia eos
8. a. 70 saat saa 1ou
kroE ros'nse'J f'a cot sa5: Bat II he t.oa
saE sea: oppressed an opinion taat Eon Wal
rot worth Elpfe ShaH 19A, OF th4. the CesH7fsnrEs
Hnrd rc1 t.e ehe to re4lst The pressure Of u,I!c
opt iar. a. wou'd be fotced 20 se.i gill. would
1 |
tine rha1rn 40 reed toe 1cs'i-ony Of VI, Serr.
. rrar, r latrr TO uessscss seo1 III and lece;ged
lrou The u1toasa Jur.ce 1he pan:c wtes.l
, | @. What VIII Jou taY cf the-e guestloc5 2od
: ans1eEf.-are they true or tA'fr: 4 t1:.k It
veTE l1k.,y 'eey ere ,rus. have sal. :, q great
or tLfc,matttn a: a!I. bsa no do1hI taas sir.
Hon.wen wonit cor :iEne the tc':ey ne M had
a:afG se s. Fl s s,5s e. sosst a' e's
G. Urdes ycGr order to Mt. Scotsman 10 rel
gold. d1d .ou ~ nm 5oa were sth'ne for !oa1se't
was Felrg It for nv wife.
. @. I'D Ecu 20 fell bin :. A. I vii not eaY lid
, q 50 isr a. ,cn rlc5.!ec', ~na> do ;oa rniek
Yea did IN 'nar rrcsrd: A. ~il cot nndcs:ase
II FAY whs, raid u that regard, because nave
, @ Ycu tt4te 1ha. YOU receleed foc1e money
rem Mr. se:'2 Ttar. cro*'re on: Of the spcsnls.
:, drawn from ntn ei,nrf ten q nlsfen thousand
. deTarE. Then Mr. Sel'cman hss executed some
o.re,s e. for ne 70 rsTt. tor ns'a9en 'i ier
: letter Of credit from NF. sercman ca bis nous'
10 Pet's, to cores the nm< nns Of .bess purcha'e
! kunw Whist theT are. Tuey eI'c1d oFef consld
' etah.e time ard different aE1nnr ts-
1 q ~ WI tht, amount 10 :a''eo' IN the aggregate
:. BErKRf1ELD's RELATIONS WITH CoRR1S.
Irgu:ly elected the iac's tnst Mt. C,rb:n va
: an old acquaintance OF Dustezfek1s had under
' taken 10 impress him with hla theory. but ha'
i 1syer urged him to exercise influence Ia that d
: 4EEiiOlt 1Al AAA AEfcA kQiA AtA4 AuuAk AA1 ~
specn,atlore.
n FCR1HER ENrLASATIoks.
i q; asked JON Nnethsr seu sseA the oAse
e Askttanr Treasurer IN SeE f9tk uades az
ASH. IN any cperas1o1s 10 Wall street. ia copnet
70 ton rnh s'ocks OF geld. or other t:.utac toas
l. M p1om,te .: 81 OBI s,:on. e5pre.sra o. inp'iei.
- @. Did shese traueactIorS *TIsn Set'E1D7a beR1
u oetese son ,eok the etace: a. am no: pasi:''
y q. WIS: ID jour Impression : A. think no
i. nave f2r 'oEu tfne hoa1ht soss1amens M seeaf
10 11eIenr pstt'Fs-ios others frequently. and soHs
e' Q, ii pirhaps duo 10 yoa to explain seen
NJ i1g IL coGs1etetcy Of torLsr aEs1ez ID y bic
,c 5ou stated sha. You had ~ staasac:'o14 n 2pt
"a Sst1gnan thai he soi3 gold tor sou: 4. Taas
~ phi oi The general 10 nale she boat
= satis.
~ q. State whether yo1 had daring ths month,
- deal hl5 :rzLsact1"n IL gold OF holds With i
EN- .. r r. Mn,'on S,s g. q ri III ezseF sA@F
i, riss.c M - sts:c to tie COT u1;see, in ynor on
~ xay, sne extent Ast Character Of the TRANSACTION
be- 4: could rise TIE u.Itac.Iens II exc. nxnies
~ | hat M01vhs uly paEesA wtth IT, Af. Morts
m purchased AoFr t'onns fof me IN Loudon. scd
10 nace Gle OF tTo d'n.Esns pnscasse'. a.'dicrEt
s,ut., IN dreren: ar1"nut. l tnihE three or 10
~ tl d1td 'housaua dollars ID vi. posathy nos
en- ana petab.s lets. 1s'attd TO ME. Morton Ia!
iEL1t..ior a. III: anm.n1s'iatou w ~; az , a.,
al! The ieyenu- oi The Roveraenr ~ faithfully
r. tteJ could, s2d that, II the secoLd plsce, ID
ns ro..tbie. U1kftE g. few e1penae- as rn'y roul
a,G .:at the pt:lc trn'lnert reu:a not sastalu !
-, Hhch : ou'd accun u.a;e unceE sh.sa ctscu
Us ttsrces in the Treasury: mat ne you'd BE CO.
n.t e e+sssd sesoash ID Cad
!as a.s eas: ole wcrd o. ire .nn,.e:--asl ae
lb9 ot tie a: cl: 1o+ rnfil he cane to NJ
Ac- Yn1k Ut fhe tine mel tout ID 10 my Testimony, ,
,, nso reysr e1cna. eed word With him vestaly-sa
l'ls Ihl.vea hls pc':cy Eoalt ne to 70 improve
3s 3si fatd the debt a. lover rate CT tierest: taa
Sat sncuaht L vss tSe15fos5s durJ 10 pt Us "a. 1no
tea xta etedi. would arrow me. enoan 10 Ia for III
:a4 ttst dd rot in.nf It s1ok ser. w'ae man. Q
r TN te dore up TO The tire Congress- caEe tose,
g go 20 srn DxtN io- pclcy n regard II he acc1mt
en ~ eeonsn 'n 10 bee,s an you'd BE- III soat
~ that he might mate so't us-sases 10 the roaa
reacr.a taA' taoe s. ss. TO o,
ess- -. PEOPLE, when taef s.ke1 me what tho1ght
!ssa & re ION anI oeat souless ass
x ne was tas as sass " soad ,sesssv se the pos1
icy acF m8c to kI0w wh8! the extent Of Nj. III
90 vsls operaants ~cud be ne bad only 10 Ics'
give ,he monlhl7 state AID .ntotm nlmtelt Of
zo sst as, 10 81 H. % %eston. nv ,a'rK :aa il wels s.
NEE. frry of the Trtasa ro115 anno31ca p1h'
ies5 Ee''s! ara T1so 'eaa!e Ky ~ ane
tnas t1peadlinfes Of tne aorelhusat. xouta
ea' that ali tie tnlrlrs reesp'f owe. fee e4pei
Tlug. sscuM pe srp :e.i l., the renuc:oG O! the d
nm a.. ten it eoaia he ior COT eress g .sy
600 uuch ma. t1.r:r. sboad be ty ding she =
loso. p1te ttrotf thelr Ear d aod rrvt nne
;. a. About Hnat time az thu: !. aa1a mava na
any time, hut thns It vas Ut the sir1e tha:
:. T.. rea,e s,s'e ihe amount Of yoar ;raosa::
epGe qSe uitn Morton 4 Co ). have sad t9at W
tne te.t purchaser sone boLtl. for ne. Tue au'
tois eta.e .eo nna gold TRANSACTIONS IT anv
since tysnxec:font excep. ,heze msde ty hir, lcc!
10 fbe purchase of borda win 80 reterecc
!; tie prIctase Or sate Of gold hy 'tselL = :
arootto 9oi1 az he eyss teli .ot s5a yaa - g.
IL uay hare bnugAt torne 0. soi,. /, 1gato
., - out ny s.y'rg auJ soecirc olrsc.ons-
st,s saa. 9 DID Jou give aty spsctd> order IN Iega
&c 10 Never II Re did II at al, be did II upon t1e
i. | etal autncfl.J ~h'ch be hs,1 iron M.
= A. q. Hss this acecrns teen cosed bJ Aor'e
c:ion s,atetns nt a il. 81 reference 10 m5 !c::es
raw. | correspondence would gre jon the exatf
..ns,f ulfisn RI tie a"coop-
1pu:n ns1 t,nnI'ar +rsrsactinns IS tuc.s I'm Mn.,
SeltRu an, While ycu were j. the S7o- Treas
+ !; 9a: =; Il ffn!. AA' ~ N'I'1soA.
Mt Rutterdstc's detailed acccuns Ok n'a
was 10 res'gp, ard to be investicssed. may Dc -
1n,u the puhIic str ee they are enc1entY ssl lof
d saw the te51nrry Ct tie Secretary OF The Tfeaao
EoJid
TESTIMONY OF SECRETARY ROC FN E
.uaa. The Secreisrf waa eIani1ed al sous le1l
to nc name. OF Going eusne's between h!
uteaI- .. ,,n ro,t,,uoa - Touo.s.
ron or Tue oEDEa TO SELL
order @. Peese stare tn. ctreums'nrces or your
bands Of September 81. % eel sold: how yon ca