New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1870-03-05

shorter than was at first apprehended lie remains
at Norwood, which is considered 10 have an I'M
usually favorable climate and is able 10 drive, walk
and converse with friends on any topics that are not
political OF otherwise exciting. G.. w S.
ROME.
HUNDRED NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS.
VIEW OF THE ECCLESIASTICAL DEBATE
MONSIGNoR GHILARDIS SCANDAL.
[PRoM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT
ROME Feb 1.-THE Council is still discussing the
scheme regarding the vita ct hOnestate clerioo-
rum whatever that may mean-other questions pre-
yiously discussed, and sent to the Deputations or
Congregations, lnger by tho way and no decisions
have yet been formed. Meantime the war about the
personal Infallblty of the Pope which, after all is
the real object Of tho Council however it may be de-
MED is raging. The Opposition feel themselves mas
ters of the situation and declare that absolute fal
ibility in its most offensive form never can and
never will be carried. They have, however. very
willy antagonists, who while affecting to yield. sub
NIT other formula ombOdying the same ideas in
different shape.
The majority of the French and Germans, however,
will have none of them, and il remains TO be seen
whether the Infalbilsts Will yield, whether they
WILL at all hazards, insist carrying Their point.
They can if they WILL but they must accept the con-
sequences OF their antagonists outside the Council
Hall they speak in measured terms, and 'libertinc"
"mplous," and "athestic" come as readily to their
pens as terms of the most Christian courtesy. Even
Dupanloup, in the Ispeech portion Of which sent
you reproved, in the strongest terms the language
used by the extreme Roman Catholic press.
The Infalbsts assert that their Postulatum to
the Fathers, demanding that the Infalibiity of the
Pope should DO defined, was signed by 800 names
The number is disputed by some even OF their
friends who calculate them at not more than ia.
Let US admit, however that there were 800 and now
let rs analyze them. We may assume that among
them 1l9 Bishops in partibus, who are like so
many voices CRYING in the Wilderness and represent
nothing. We may assume, too, that 80 Cardinals,
five of whom only are Bishops, and - Oriental Bish
OPS, some of almost unknown places, swell the
list Well then, to exclude the Bishops resident in
Rome we have 204 Bishops who represent nothing,
OF next to nothing. Subtract these from the 500, and
we have 2g5 TO oppose TO the $50 who are SAID TO
have signed the Anti-Postnlatum address. majority
still remains for Infallibility but weigh 1t. The
Archbishop of Paris alone has the care of as many
souls or more than all the Bishops of the Pontifcal
States Then whom do the opposition representa-
Tho Teutonic race, the contemplatiye and profound
Germans--the acute however versatile, Frencl-and
the practical hard-thinking, TesOlute men OF Eng
land and America Both in numbers and in quality
one need not hesitate to say that by far the large
majority of those who are claimed as members OF
the Roman Catholic Church are represented by the
minority Of the Fathers in the great discussions
about Infahbility. But" said Prelate 1--WE
do not weigh, we number-al Bishops are equal
for each will receive the Holy Spirit" and so it IS that
the decisions Of men who are canvassing, and
wrangling and intriguing are to be regarded as the
inspiration Of the spirit of God.
There can be little doubt that the spirit of Napo-
leon will have something to say Ill the matter. The
report which have received through several chan
nes and which IS guaranteed az beng correct Is as
follows: That the NunciO has communicated 10 the
Pontifcal Government conversation which had
taken place between him and member Of the French
Ministry in which he was requested to urge on the
Pontifcal Government the necessity of a return to
the state of things existing before 1913 condition
Of continued French protection that Mons. Daru
had written to several of the Bishops begging them
TO use their influence for the purpose and that
Mons Bonneville has received instructions IN the
same sense Monseigneur Dupanloup, it is said, has
received letter from Mons Daru announcing that the
definition of the Infallibility of the Pope would be
followed by separation of the Church from the
State What know is that friend of my own
within two or three days has received letter from
the brother of of the most influential members OF
the French Government, stating that the success OF
the Infalbiity would amount to the tearing OF the
concordat and the recall of the French troops. IL
may be that these menaces to prevent the great
measure from being carried. and that the Pontih
may sacrifice il OF modify it az sop TO Cerberus.
What will France do in such casef IL IL difhcult
10 believe that those who have been camoring Tor
liberty for themselves will on gaining it, persist IN
riveting CHAINS on others. But men in and out OF
Office are very different persons.
The grafton of Monsignor Ghilardi Bishop OF Mon
dour, on Tuesday. created what is called great
scandal. Ghilardi is the same Bishop who, three
years ago. by the hostility which he betrayed to the
Italian Government while preaching in Milan Ca
thedraI irritated the population to such a degree
that bomb was exploded beneath the pulpit. His
Grafton on the sth was scolding lecture; he com
planned that the world the dscords OF the
Fathers were made known. and this was lnsupport-
able; il was necessary TO put stop to ~ IN some
way or another; they themselves were the cause OF
| II, and he reproved them for their PRIDE thslr
Ignorance aud immodesty, almost heresy Inc
Fathers unable To endure the Insult IN Yariouslonee
| and language cried Enough p-the Legate rang MS
bell, but Ghilard waxed still warmer, and there
was beating of the feet and of the benches 30 that
the Council presented very strong contrast 10 that
OF the Apostles occasion Of the Feast OF febte
cost. Inc guard and the attaches OF the Bishops on
the outside were alarmed, when the doors were
thrown suddenly open and the Fathers cane out ~
groupss evidently much irritatsd. Mons GhiIaIdl
was compelled at length TO deslst from want OF al
andeDcA