New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1870-04-05

Legislature would recognize that principle in the Charter
meet with universal adoption shortly am asked
hundred times In month what are the emoluments OF
to h The nS
bad there For instance; man is paid so much
the sinking Fund: One man is member Of the
Police Board, and he is also member Of the
Just and right s TO give fair salary every officer and
have done with It, Pay him fair salary, and require
how much he is paid and what lis duties really are
also think IL would he desirable that the Mayor should
cause il he were secretly the enemy Of the Mayor land
have known such things the latter might be led into
legal matters think too, that the docks and wharves
ought TO be under board of commissioners; but viii
not insist upon that. think too there ought to be
regulation providing that persons shall hold more than
office under the City Government You Will how
tell what the OF the persons receiving
salaries there, They appear only as first clerk"
second clerk" and so and do not know whether
these exist not, whether they absolutely
earning their inoney or not People understand that
personally render any service We want every not
to be ashamed OF beng paid, not Of having his name
shown that A. and clerks In such department;
they paid so much money and here are their desks
The Chairman-We thought that more matter OF or.
dinance than of State law.
Mr.: Greeey-l think II would be better TO fix 1t here.
the first Board will be good one but the next will be
poor one and afraid that in little time you will
deny that had anything to do with the work
ing OF the Board We want fixed now so that may
",
for all time In reference to the appointment OF Off
GERS by the present Mayor, A Oakley Han. think 1t
would have been better the charter had given the APP
pointment 10 the new Mayor, so that We might have
deal all round. After referring to few subordinate
points, Mr. Greeley closed with reference to the
registry which, he said. was of little benefit as check
against frauds at elections.
Committee spoke at some length In regard 10 the
new Charter. His remarks were, in the main, highly
lsudstory Of that instrument.
REMARKS TILDEs
The Hon. Samuel l. Tiden Chairman Of the Demo
cratic State Committee, said:
Mr.. CHAIRMAN AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMITTEE:
When casually here at the close of last week business
confined to single topic beyonn which under no cir.
cumstsnces did propose TO extend it, and was casu-
on this question felt 50 deeply the Importance
question to the people OF NewYork that requested OF
TIA, the citizens of NewYoTf might have an
opportunity TO press their ideas upon the subject
did not at that time contemplate returning here myself
At the request OF several gentlemen for whom enter
tain high respect at some inconvenience TO myself
question 1t stands came here. Sir, TO aid no
party Of men nor to injure any party OF men come
little to result which you. l. and all OF have
great interest, and you great duty
who belong the party to which you, Mr.. Chairman,
and myself belong. Is that we look far as we can
pie Of SewYSrE Now, think there are some particu-
lars in which this bin could be amended to carry out that
object more fully. Some of these will specify.
the objection 10 the commission system not that the
State ought TO have commission. No man ever OBJ.
streets in the City Of New-York No objected
that when there specific work of construction not
involving the exercise OF the ordinary OF Govern
ment, that 1t might be done in that mode When
the question was argued before the Court ,o OF
the distinguished and lustous judges and maintained
the extreme views on tne sqs agaIs nv OF
OF exceptions TO which the principle did not apply one
part OF the ordinary functions OF the Government in
volyng period OF construction which period was not as
yet expired When MIR. Hoffman upon the stump in
1851 remember IL WELL for think heard the speech
through. not quite sure OF that-be expressly ex-
cepted the Central Park from the decisions made by the
Democratic party on that subject At the same time,
without referring further to that subject than nov do
shall aude TO what was the real strong governor oo
jeetions TO the system Of Commissioners was, that
the ordinary powers OF government were seized hold OF
by party then dominant in Albany IN the State Gov
eminent aud New York IN Its local afafs was gov
ened by the State: and not by It's own people No doubt
there had been evils and abuses that had led state
of things 1t almost always the case that when uu
paons OF power or peryer,ion, OF power arse .nst
Now Sir. what want is sefgoyernment for the people
and the criticism which. 1t strikes me, tins
bill is in some degree subject to, is tins.
various offices self government people OF the City
Of NewYo Is in allegiance FOR from onr TO egh years
Be made ~ fenti esa nov IA nee al 20
that Office On the sls OF December by the provisions
81 THIS viii ms be er the OF aaon OF his
For years he will have no power whatever over the
administration Of the Government of which he is the
nominal head. All these functionares survive him.
Their terms 90 beyond his term aud he has not the
power 10 remove them; not the power enforce any
practical responsibility AS against them He is mere
cipher Then, at the end OF Two years anOnef eec
ofcers extend their terms beyond histhe shortest
them being for four years, and the longest OF them
Ell Kindness and Difference this is self government.
For the next hive years 1t is government IN which the
peOpe will have yOice-nOne whateYer-f0r that long
period The proceeds IN the same way IN which the
acts creating commissions have done. gentleman IS
designated who makes these appointments. 10 al prac-
teal inents and purposes they are commissions Just as
under the old system. Now, Sir think 1t ought 10 De
reineded; think II can be remledled ,,,,,. ,,.,
Take for instance the Department OF Public Works.
Under the Republican system OF commissions the street
Department and the Croton Board have been 10
the control of the city authorities They stand as under
the old system, anterior to the time when these cois
soDers began TO be formed Inc mayor mas ,he power
10 remove them with the consent OF the Board OF Alder
men. Under this bin that power Is obiterated; AT
present the Aldermen, by TWO rIhIds 'G,e,
have the power to remove. Under T tn a
act that power is o6nterated n dnry mi. G Hi
that power obterated. Now sir, this 10 not sefgov
ernment What do you havef You have an Executive
denuded Of executive power. The Mayor has no power
on functODaries except to impeaeh them ana an
experience has shown that at dilatory ana hsu,
fcenI resource, not TO be relied on III me otdhy ad
minstratiOn OF the Government. th!nK that the OH
would be conformable to sound ma1hs OF govern
ment If corrected in this respect ihs charter Is DC
fcie1t in another respect, III that IL makes ihe
the State and Federal officers The municipal cleo
ton Of million Of people IS OF suiheleui import
doing avoid the mixing OF municipal Interests WIN
State and national interests what object 10 III TINS D
is that have Mayor without executive
you have a Legislature without legislative power; you
have elections without any power In the people 10 act
the government for the period during which these OH
GERS are appointed. 1t ia not popular government
Is not a responsible government; II IA government
beyond the control and independent OF the VIII
OF the people That the Mayor should have
real and substantial power Is the theory We have been
discussing last four five years. III Is the theory
upon which we have carried our own controversies
against adversares, and now here Alter PERIOD
OF years for the first time the party to which belong
possesses all the power OF the Government. nave
strong anxious desire that 1t should make the CITY OF
New York "a Government popular In IFS form
Mr.. CHAIRMAN: am not afraid OF the stormy sea OF
popular liberty sul trust the people. We, no DOUBT
h Ia evil lines. We. doubt. have had