New-York tribune., 1870-04-12

Tanined by Judge Garyi9-Q WIN you state state 10
~, SS,rf and iury what Mr.. Mcfarland said when ne ne
s, So, ,,ic A. cannot any than that he said II
az" a" hi he say at first that he Oticer A. could
9 bid yc understand him to refer to the real estate
o. 10 Won rent that place A. rented II and then
roght Il Of my son. who bought 1t OF his pIotheI;
,St Ge ~. I'M ofcerf A. Tho did not know what
lie was saying; l cannot give anything more that nc
o. How long did e stayi A. From IS to 20 minutes
from the time nc first came into The Office, ,o,.,
D. pii ht present any paper or opeh any Dookl n.
tnk he had book in bis hand but he did not present
o. Yca told him in substance that he could 60 to No %
Hroadst. and find out what he wantedl A. Yes sir:
o. WIZ dd YOU refer him thercl 4. Because the exec
ut rs were there Mr. Edgar b. Maguum, son, ana MI
Edward L. Lawrence, brother. ,,,o,,,o,, oo-,o
O. You also mentioned that another gentleman came
in with himl A. Yes sir; do not know him; have
never him before or since; the other man uu ioS
say anything, that remember; do not kno" 'ia'
would remember him If saw him -, ,.-. %
Q. Now. what time was il A. think was betweei ~ ~
and II O'Clock; got back rom the Oorn ENon"neo '
3. Vas the Corn Exchange open on Evacuation Dayi
o. Now how long was it 6efoTe Evacuation Dayi A.
@ po yon fTow that this shooting affair took place
some days aftcri 4. Yes. sir; two or three days ,
o. Yon rccollcct Il was not the dayi A. Yes sir
O. Yon rscollect that it not the day beforef A.
Yes. Sir; g. within one or two days ,
Redirect EXamination-By Mr. GrHham-Q under.
sand yo 60 say that what ne said 40 irrational that
you were not impressed with it a; Yes. sir; o..-.
vts then called and read from the records certificate
Of commitment Of Francis Mcfarland to the Insane Asy-
physicsns depoScd that he in condition dan
eerOus to himself to other persons and TO properly
TESTIMONY OF JOHN BILLINGS
Ivesle iu @ IS city; an attorney-ataw ana nave
been for the last l6 years. have known the prisoner
since 1880 at which time he engaged in The real
estate business think, in Wisconsin, buying and selling
land.
By Mr. Graham-Q Between 80 and 63 how often did
YOU see lia .. A. Quite often.
-xvtay hp yraa
EuolmeIti \. knew Of the fact of his being a Com
missioner.
q wli,rc vas your Office at that time \. In Broad
way. near ChamhersSt
O. How long did you know him to hold that Office
A. Duruc the drafts.
O. Dil ic ever have q desk in your object A. He
there from tne Spring of 1876 to lsG6 :, .cs.o,
O. WIZ cid NE cease having desk III your 0incef A.
Tae building was torn down and new one built ,
o. III yod him on the 18th OF November, 1862 A.
O. Whore ala you sec bin' A. Nearly opposite the
NwNoIa Hotel on Broadway, at about 20 minutes past
O'clock ia the afternoon.
@ We're YOU a0nei a. was.
O. VIII. way were you going! A. l was going up anu
o. Iu-t ,t7tc What took place. \. saw him probably
led tat he looked somewhat different from what had
cn in thc habit of seeing him, and when he was oppo
Site 10 me stOpped him he had OvercOat, with
On, in his pockets and he had his hat pulled over
lseyeS stopped and Smi, Mack, now , no you ses so
J. "Wh8t Is The matter with yOul" he said, What do
1uu mriu?" said, "YOu look very strange; are you
stiJ "No." said "Whcre are YOU goingi" he said
Down town" "Wel" SAYS ]. What IL the matter with
youl he said, "Nothng; why r. said, You look very
strange 70 me; where are you going he sald ne was
pectcd 10 before the went 10 NewJersey re-
marked 70 him, Don't go down now, he he said " No. no;
down aud see this man had hold of his hand
and asked him then II he was nnWel; he sara, 20,
bnd fiuaiy pulled away h,s hand from me ana sdiu m
mus; go, for the stars VIII be out pretty sOOn ana nc
q. What Was his that occasions A. He had
1rrar look; ne was very pale and his eye CLASSY,
and he seemed TO look sorrow though he was under
Q. We'll from what you observed of him, did you
form any and what judgment of his being rational or
irratiOnall A. had seen him on many occasions dur
the two years previous when he was excited and
taking pe1sI & DI meyer saw n c wren IN me me e u Una, ha
there wa something the matter with mn' that he was
@. Just state how you come to fix the timel A. My
office il No. 25 Duanet aud left il five minutes to q
and walked Immediately mp the street and should say
was 20 minutes past when got up there.
q. when was the last time you had seen him before
that2 A. think about two weeks before that; think
met him in BrGadTay down @ near the & Park and think
O. What was his condition on the occasion Immediately
preceding that on the 25th ~ About the same as IL
ny occasion in nv ofice but that he commenced to talk
about the suit that he had against Mr. Richardson and
taking away his wife and children from him, and ON all
IN that normal I'D Condition OF which have spoken
@ Could You tell us the number of conversations you
had with him on that subject during the two years. A
O. And What judgment did You form from those con.
versations A. had not seen him for years when 1
thought he was in his right mind.
@ Did he ever tak on any otneF 'mec e1eePe tlS
Q. Are you acquainted with his wife A. Slightly she
called at my Office.
his wife, what the carriage toward one another in
reference TO acctoni A. They seemed to he very aec-
Onate 10 each other; always When she came 10 the
Office she would bring Percy, and sometimes he would
not he and she would wait for him. but always when
they came they would salute other My dear and
My darling were the words they used
O. so far you observed up 10 the ls or May, 1866
we're they not unusually afectonae TO one another A.
thought so. .,, - .,
Did she ever have any conversation with you in re-
gard to him! 4. No, sir.
O. Did you ever hear him express himself with refer
cnce TO the affection he had for his wife. A. Well re-
member OCCASION think along in the Fall, abOnt
the time that they living in iOnkers he said that
lie to have her out of the city and he here
he wanted them where he could see them every day:
O. Did YOU ever hear him speak boastingy of his fam
Is A. He seemed TO think great deal OF his children-
bi- two little boys. ~ M
If so, how many a. 1t would be difficult for to tell
O. Did you ever see the younger boy, Daniell A. Yes
O. When did you first see him A. think it was the
o. With reference to his affection for that boy what did
the boy, or mode Of speaking of him A. Well it was
quite young the time, not more than s months old
O. Do you remember seeing Mr.. Mcfarland about the
first week in April 1867, at your office IN Broadwayi A.
think was about the 2th OF March that saw MN al
O. Do You remember whether he had been to Boston
about that time i'm reference to certain proceedings he
had going ON there A. He said he had he came into
the Office, sat down chair and commenced crying,
not know much about them; he said that man named
Ri HARRISON had stolen his wife and children and taken
them o. husett and that he trying TO get his
children and bring them back.
O. Wac he then applying to you for an affidavit 10 aid
In his proceedingsi \. He said perhaps he should want
O. Now state TO the jury the characteristics of his man.
nei at that time. A. He would lit down in his chair for
spell and then get up and walk backward and forward.
and say, my God, God, what have they done! They
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