New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1870-05-06

g What nnny lid von rcprcsent to from. A. FROM
none Greeley knew was Journalist II caII mon him.
by Mr. Greeeys own friends tHa' '"o"'
why did you not tell him what baReST you was from
soe R Rap did Won tell himi A. told him had seen
M Ree nI and MIR Bcccher had made certain to
mark wanted to know II II wa non Won went in A.
g What was Mr. Greeley doi"e WIN"
WIZ" o F5r what paper did you rcporti A. published
the next DAY IA ums TO- get It for The SUM- A. No Sir
not particularly; ar wns to any paper
o. Didn't Won 10 pnbsh II IN me SUM- a, i hS
q cortainiy INV intention but II circumstances hiu
, ws IL Otherwise should have published 1t In
"1S'I Dd !1 go there expressly for The Sun" A. No.
paid Most qnd aI%nt dg It T fas
a piece Of journalism OF course l didn't 10 IL i0'
O. Do you write by the columni A. No, Sir; generally
Oy q w What haf[ did you get for this article,
Witness Ito Recorderl-Is this material
o. Repeated. A. ItGink it was $40 think so know
got SO from The sun; had little card in The SUM-
O. You put this in the form that would give you
pretty good price A. No; thought that was cheap;
@ Is interviewing part Of your businessi A. No Sir;
take up subject as think It Is an important SUD
saw Mr.. McFsrand BE- Beecher and Mr. Greeley.
ME- Mr. Sree aye G ; a S write up M he said
published card afterward with still more In IT, Gil
that was all truth; in every case will take my oath here
that have given the exact meaning Of Mr.. Greeley If
his exact words only here aud there nave cinasCu
lated the oaths lSensation; haven't put in all tle
times he swOre. 49,. :,
seemed to swear rather cmphacaly; am positive ne
five times to my statement OF one had printed
that conversation without the oahs any journalist IN
this city would have known it wasn't true llaughteII
there Is nothing III the interview that affects MI ureeey
in any way don't how il affects the evidence my
memory Is good deal better than Mr. Greeeys on THIS
subject
Q What Journal are you connected with A. me sun
day Mercury.
q Are you not connected with that sheet published
here known The Days DOings? have written for It,
O. Are you not connected permanently with III n.
O. Are you not proprietor and publisher A. Ne;
wish was lIaughterl
O. When you wrote for II you got PAID fOr A. les,
SIR like anything else wrote. 80
O. When you get up article you make it so full
up special subject get it up as well can why,
Mr.. Greeley knew was going to publish this; he was
@ When you get a chance to interview man, then
after hearing him talk you 60 and work upf II 1t
business sometimes know have been among the Free
Lovers up in Oneida County; have been Intervening
O. You are what they call an Interviewer A. Wei,
you may call it SO if you like; call 1t business
TESTIMONY HUGH LUDLOW
MI Gerry then called Mr.. Fitz Hugh Ludlow, from
whom the following testimony eicited
@. DO You remember shortly after Mrs. Mcfarland
gave the readings referred to at Steinway Hail. having
had conversation with Mr.. Mcfarland in reference To
tf A. do.
O. State the conversation. fObjected to.l
Mr. GerryThis Is for the purpose of refuting the evil
partially that of Mrs sage to the feet that Mcfarland
acquiesced chcerfuy IN ms wife giving heT READINGS ana
going the stage, and that he approved OF them ana
concurred in it.
The question permitted.
A. The conversation TO which you refer is this shortly
after this reading, the first public appearance OF rs NC
Farand in any way that Ta Of in 1 az
said MIR Mcfarland, you know very well should have
been glad to have helped wife in any way when she
made her debut" said 10 him that had access 10 the
columns of The Post, of which was formerly an editor
and to The Home Journal with which had been con
that capable of doing him good. and would have
didn't You send me any tickets ~ had discovered from
| three papers some account of the performance; ne
looked down with air of great detection and said; "
| sent you none because very much ashamed-be-
cause did not wish you or any OF my personal friends to
wife take that step; did not wish her to leave the
sanctity of her family when we were happy, ana
tation of friends of hers"
O. Do you remember subsequent to the appearance of
Mrs Mcfarland upon the stage at Winter Garden having
had a conversation with Mr.. Mcfarland in reference
thereto; if So state it, A. remember, some time sub
sequent TO her appearance on the stage at Winter Car
den that he told ii matter of bitter regret to
him; that it made him very unhappy
contained article on schools 40 years ago, which
article was offered in evidence by the prosecution was
then shown the witness, and bis attention called to the
article.l
O. state what you know III reference 10 II! TOD
shortly before the publication OF this article that Mr.
Mcfarland came TO him some time in January
February 1866 that he was then in great poverty in
consequence Of his having been compelled to spend
great deal of money the habeas corpus for the purpose
Of getting back his that he advised with the witness
as the publication of manuscript which he showed
the witness; that the witness took the manuscript and
found that it the outline of this paper but III less and
coherent form that the witness retouehed it and re-
auested Mr. Mcfarland to IL over with those amend
ments; that Mr. Mcfarland brought 1t back second
time and almost ~ bad as at FIRST that he retouchcd
ID again, and it sent more to the witness on the
stand. Question permitted.
A. That is substantially the statement should make
myself; this was, should say about year, perhaps
before the Spring OF 60 Mr. Mcfarland then talking
constantly about making great stroke which would
make his wife leave Richardson Mr. McFarland's state
of mind of great anxiety. tOhicctcd to.J He
finally resolved to make stroke in direction of liter
he assured me, and he came to me- having en-
couraged him. -,
of your improving those previous manuscripts A. 1t is
a result of his Improvement; there were good many
good things in it and put them together.
q. And made them read coherentlyi A. Yes, sir. .
Recorder Hacket-YOu put II in shape. Now, whether
it is coherent to the jury not remains to he seem
q. DO remember having seen TINS letter OF Mrs
Calhoun, that Mrs Runke. that is without any date
but which appears to have been written about 1871 A.
Mr. Gerry-I offer to show that when Mr.. Mcfarland
read letter the witness looked over his shoulder
that thew read those three initials which counsel have
tried to make out read "yOu." -. K w. and that Mr.
Mcfarland said that is intended for John Russell Young
The witness-That is the remark that he made.
O. That is what occurred! a. Yes, Sir.
O. When that conversations A. do not think
that Mr. Mcfarland read this letter to
than occasion 1t was on that occasion.
O. Was it before after the first alleged shooting
A. 1t after not able to state how long after.
The witness was then cTosseXalnned by Judge Davis,
who requested him to read the article through and tell
what portions OF IL he had written rewritten,
touched up. The witness did pointing out number
of additions he had made to it.
c. Did you alter the form sentences A. or
O. Did YOU alter the style A. suppose the style was
altered the sentences were altered