Daily Kennebec journal. [microfilm reel] (Augusta, Me.) 1870-1975, 1870-02-17

gone into the higher regions, and that is what
gives him the yigor and clearfess of intellect,
to come here new member, and young
man, and take front rank among the debat-
ers. Mr.. b. protested against this cry OF
poverty, inability to discharge constitutional
duty because we are in debt. Here we are
sending out at large expense report on, our
water powers and natural resources, spread
ing broad cast over the country this knowl-
edge, and inviting capital and men to come IN
here and help develop these natural resources.
And what does the gentleman from Cherry
field do? Stands in this House and says the
people are groaning under the weight OF taxa
ton, crushed down to the earth, and the peo-
pie are stripped of their earnings. and are liv-
ing on bread and water, and are going in rags,
and this is proclaimed through the Legislative
paper and goes broadcast over the country.
If there is any thing this State wants, it is
men and capital from other States to develop
her resources, and make us into that great and
mighty State which the Almighty has intend
ed us to be- but this cry OF poverty and
taxation is not calculated to help us in this
respect.
Mr.. ID. continued a; some length introduce
ing statistical evidence to show the increase
of the population and wealth of Maine, and
argued that the State is able to help these ed
educational institutions.
Mr. HUME replied. He knew he was
placed in peculiar position in measuring
swords with the gentleman from Augusta.
But the reason he felt strong was because he
knew he had the people behind him. If
we followed out the theory Of the gentleman
from Augusta, when he says that we are as
much bound to appropriate the money as W.
are to pay our State officers, then he should
ask for 1000 for Cherryfeld Academy, and
you are in duty bound to pay it. This
theory is false. He asked when we are to
get out out of debt if We do not begin at some
time to retrench.
Mr.. HUMPHREY as member of the Com
mttee on Education, said they were in favor
of retrenchment, but thought it should be in
the proper direction. He thought it poor
economy to shut off appropriations from these
institutions. He combatted the idea that they
are for the rich mans children, he had
been connected with these schools as teacher,
and knew whereof he spoke. 1t is not for
the rich that this endowment is asked but for
the poor. The rich can take care of them
selves but the poor cannot.
Mr.. GREEN did not want to take up the at
tcntion of the House for the facts in the case
had been fully set forth in the remarks OF the
gentleman from Augusta and others who had
spoken. He favored the resolve because he
thought it just and right, and he believed
there was not gentleman upon the floor of
the House, who after reading the statement Of
facts and fully understanding the matter bnt
what would say it is a just endowment. MIR.
G. continued briefly in favor of the measure
Mr.. SrIcKNEX favored the resolve
because he was in favor of common schools.
Our common schools need good teachers as
well as good schoolho and it is from these
higher schools that we must get these teach
ers. In order that We have good high schools
it is necessary that they should be endowed
,fh tl,x. I'm, n1nEa hen Ha
hoped this resolve would pass, and also that
the other amounts asked for these other insti-
utions of like character would pass.
Mr.. Kinks said he should vote against the
measure, not because he was the enemy of ed
ucation or these higher institutions of learn
ing, but because he wished that those who re-
ceived the benefits of these institutions to pay
their own expenses believing that the educa-
ton therein received is worth all that it costs.
In his town there is one OF these institutions,
but not one-tenth Of the scholars of that town
will ever enter it as scholars. Then why tax
the nine tenths for the benefit ofthe other one
tenth? He believed our constitutional duties
fulfilled when we take care of our Normal
schools and Agricultural College.
Mr.. DARLING moved the indefinite post
ponement of the resolve.
Mr.. FARwELL moved and the House ordered
the previous question, thus limiting the debate
to five minutes each.
Mr.. BRADFORD did not consider that we
are obliged constitutionally, or as representa-
tives of our constituents, to vote away money
for any private institutions. If we can spare
the money let US vote it to our common
schools. The gentleman from Cherryfeld
had said that he feared he was alone. He
(Mr. Bradford) assured him that he was not
alone on this question, and our people also
are not willing to be taxed for any private
class of citizens. ....
Mr.. WATSON argued against the passage Of
the resolve.
Mr.. Foss advocated the resolve, because he
thought it in favor of the poor scholars. He
claimed them to be the poor children's colleges,
and he thought it penurious to deny them
to us.
Mr. SMITH of Litchfeld, advocated the
passage Of the resolve.
Mr.. BARTLETT followed on the same side.
Mr.. HUME replied.
The House ordered the main question,
which was on the passage of the resolve, to
be engrossed, and on this question the House
ordered the yeas and nays, on motion of Mr..
BAKER, which, being taken, resulted in the
affirmative by 81 yeas and So nays, as follows
YEAs-Messrs. Adams of Mayfield, Baker, Bar
ker. Barton, Bartlett, Bearce Of Lewiston, Bearce
Burgess, CLARK Of Readaeid, Cox, Crockett Cnsh.
ing, Daggett, Dearborn, bennett, Douglass, Duncan,
Farwell, Foss, Foster OF Argyle, Gannett, Gates,
Cot, Could Green, Hammond of Westbrook, Ham
mond of Paris, Harding, Hartman Hathon,
Halves, Holbrook, Holman, Humphrey, Hussey,
Irish, Lewis of Liberty, Main, McLain, Newcomb,
Phillips, Pierce, Powers, Purinton, Sawyer, Smith
of Hodgdon, Smith of Ltchfleld, Stckney, Sturgis.
ThurlOugh, vose, Warren, Waterhouse, Wheeler,
Whidden, Wilder, Wilson.-Gl.
NAYs--Messrs. Allan, Ames, Berry of Damaris-
Gotta, Boyd, Boothby, Bradford, Drawn, Brown.
Burnham, Chase of Woodstock, Chase OF Winn,
Clark of Holden, Cole, Conforth, Darling, Davis,
Greenlief, Guptill Ham, Kinks, Hume, Jones, Jor-
dan of Minot, Jordan of Brunswick, kimball, Leigh.
ton, Lewis of Pittston, Libby Lord, Martin Mason,
May, Mayo McDougal, McKown, Means, Mears,
Mills, Milliken, MOulton, Peavey, Plummer Sar-
gent, Sherman of Camden, Sherman of Islesboro',
Smith of Warren, Smith of Parsons1sld, Spauldng,
Slower, Twitchell, WATSON. Weston, wentworth,
WhtehOuse, Young.-55. s~..gysgs .-.
ABsENT-Messrs. Adams of Biddeford, Alexan.
der, Bean, Blake, Bonncy Burbank, Campbell.
Chamberlain Cotton, Cousins, Dunning, Folsom,
Hamilton, Lane, McGilvery, Midram Nickerson,
Palmer, Patten, Pray, Ray, Reed Riggs, skinner,
Smith Of saco, Stone, Thompson, Tobey, Watts,
White, Whitney.-3l.
So the resolve had passage.
Mr.. HUME asked and obtained leave to
change his vote.
Mr.. Kinks moved to reconsider the vote
whereby bill an act additional to chapter of