The New York herald., 1870-07-22
ROME.
COuncil Drbntc ON tho Schcmn-"Shutting
on" Oppesition.-Caucusing and Prclatical
Tactics.

| ROME July s. 1870.
| Knowing that there were still seventy or eighty
orators inscribed TO speak the fourth chapter OF
| the schema regarding Papal primacy and infalli-
bilty, was with equal surprise and satisfaction
| that we heard that the preliminary discussion OF
that chapter was brought TO Its conclusion In the
general congregation OF yesterday morning. This
was not erected by coup dc main Of the majority.
like the unexpected closing Of the debate on the
principle OF the schema the Sd June but chiefly
ut the request OF the minority, whose numbers arc
diminishing every day, and whose interest 1t Is to
bring the tnfalibty struggle 10 Its final "grlp" as
soon possible. The suggestion to this effect was
made in the general congregation held on the I'd
inst; but, many speakers were on the list. the
legates declined authorizing the closure OF the
debate unless all the orators Inscribed voluntarily
| abdlcated their right to the rostrum
| CAUCusING.
Meetings Of the bishops OF all parties were held on
the evenings OF the I'd and 3d. at the residences Of
Cardinals de Bonnechose Peauscher and other lead
| ing members OF the Council at which It was deter
mined to push the business more rapidly forward,
and reserve the real contest between the partisans
Of and opponents to absolute nfallbility for the
placet and non placet voting on the chapter when
presented to the assembly second time by the De-
puaton Of Faith, with the amendments aud changes
that shall have been introduced in accordance to
the written objections sent in by the members of the
opposition. These latter began to understand that
they were losing more than they were gaining by
their policy Of procrasnation, and therefore 1t is
that they have consented to fOrego their right OF
speaking reservng, however, that of sending III the
manuscripts Of the speeches they intended to have
delivered to the Fathers Of the Dcputatlon de Fde
be taken into consideration for the notifications to
be made In the text Of the schema
THE PARTIES.
cannot do better than cnumerate here the prln-
cipa caegories OF opinion In the Council on the pro-
posed inallibity dogma:-
F.rst-Those bishops who consider the definition
quite nopportune, III the present state OF the public
mind, unnecessary for the salvation Of souls, and
superduous inasmuch as an infaIlibe supremacy of
the Roman P0ntiff does exist de fyCO already and Is
recognized and Obeyed by the Church
Secon I'VE have the partisans OF an absolute,
separate and personal inialliblity without any def
erence to the long recognized prerogatives OF the
episcopacy. ln-.
duced by Cardinal Gudi, who admits the oppor.
tuneness Of defining the infa,ibillty Of the Roman
Pontin, but would have 1t accompanied by an ex-
picit declaration OF the necessity OF the assent OF
the eptscopacy in dogmas OF faith and morality.
According to appearances the opponents OF the
dogma's opportuneness viii make an alliance with
Cardinal Gudis party and then there VIII be about
$50 perhaps more bishops who VIII give positive
non ptacet to any formula Of infability that does
not conta In the required concession in favor Of the
episcopal rights recoenzcd by the faithful since the
foundation or the Chlreh.N
THE POPE's POSITION.
Will Plus TX. be satisfied with this modified sue
cessi de has been painfully undeceiyed with re.
spec. to the amount OF opposition he has met with
In the Council for upwards Of twenty years OF adu,a
tion had prepared him for series Of condescendlDg
DEGREES in the assembly conGrnallyc OF all the lnno.
vatng suggestions OF the Jesults and the Court OF
Rome. HIS Holiness must therefore take what he
can get, and II he Cannot DC separately Inrallble he
must consent 10 share that attribute with his epis
copa brethren tlarge.
In the general congregation OF The Council yester-
day morning only TWO orators spoke, exhorflng the
assembly TO unanimity aud rorbearance, and the
iegates having III invited any other speakers 10
present themselves, declared the discussion OF the
fourth chapter TO be concluded, and the meeting
broke up at the unusually early hour OF e.even A. NJ
The chap'er will now he rcmodelled In conformity
with the objections made in The speeches already de-
vered and In the written Which 10 be sent to
the deputation. Meanwhile the other parts OF the
schema are advancing 1hc preface and two first
chapter came before the assembly THIS mornlng for
Il similar sentence, the votes beng by sitting or
standing. When The infalllDIlity chapter has gone
through the same ordeal the whole schema will be
voted on by 'Dl1cekr .po}1 pldcer or 'p,dcsf jltya
nsoduls,' ana only In case OF favorable result to
insure when 1t seems absoneiy necessary thai the
rights OF the episc0pacy Shall be respected ana for
Ea.ly recognized, VIII the new dogma be promul.
M HsIf s ggis s HsiSp' ass
Is good deal Of ground 10 be covered sl ana II the
least amount OF clubbing is allowed / do not See
how it will be possible TO publish the dogma soon
as the 18th OF this noDh winch tie festival OF Leo
", a Roman Pontlf who nourlshed e thousand
years ago. and now registered In the calendar OF
SAINTS.
l imagine that win Tie best Intentions the
solemnity OF pcomugatlng the dogma VIII hardly
come Oil beore tue clid OF the month, although there
Is no safety In making predictions on the subject
in moment, and an important discussion wound
UP before ii had wei begun.
ROlAN SENTIMENT
The whole affair Is zoos Ned upon with much ndf-
ference by tie Romans, but foreigners expect great
raolcings Oh the occasion, and IN spite OF the dog
days VIII be either staying or coming here to witness
them.
ST. PETERS CHAIR.
can hardly imagine anything beyond the usual
pomp OF q public session OF the Council. presided
formanty OF his solemnly sitting in that
venerable but very uncomfortable looking arm
char assigned bv tradition TO The Apostle
Peter, which Is usually covered up in in vast roc.
COCO chair, supported In clouds by four colossal
doctors Of the Church, in the apse OF the Church. but
which Is to be drawn forth and placed In the Coun
Gil Hall on the PRONUNCIATION day, FOR the accommo.
dation Of the 6rst iniaible Pope On the centenary
opSbl e vdtGraion % the Very altar ia the tran
sept Which now supports the Papal throne in'the
piece Of furniture made Of carved wood with ivory
such matters ss would 1'Vs Venture SSi Tbsts ifH
and construction to the first century Of the Chris
tian era ~ ::
We shall have lOi guns from the Castle OF 81.
iiohs although are spoiled for snch dsplaysby the
gua,ldola and the commemorative illumnations OF
the i2h q April rr-
TTT. THE WEATHER. "a t-TFr- y
Provided tue blsnopa Do they WORK quickly every
the heat Is already insuppor{able. Many OF the
Fathers are taking flight daily, and that is why
members of the opposition have resolved to give up
talking and come to the de6nitive vote before their
ranks are too much weakened by deserton. Nearly
half OF the United States bishops have returned 10
their dioceses, and do not know whether any new
dogma win ever tempt them back to an Ecumencal
Council In Rome.