The New York herald., 1870-03-31

OF this knd-and nnd from these gentlemen that |
character, greatly benefit the city Of New York i
say TINS IN all sincerity and candor, rising above all
party and personal considerations and speaking as
representative, and satisfied that the Mayor is IN
vested with power you are not mere to exercise |
against the WIN OF the people. am satisfied that so
power OF the city OF New YORK. the Mavor being re-
sponsiole to the people, this measure should be car
Mr.. MURPHY, tiem) OF Albany-You are come
back to the democratic party.
Mr.. iusTED-I have never been there. VIII repel |
wish to say tnis:-I believe that the Park Commits
sion 0i New York; believe that the Police Commits
sion OF New York. believe that the Fire Commits
sion OF New York-appertaining solely 10 the city
should De controlled by the representatives OF the
Guy n,6 o. ~ new YORK do not know wnere the power
executive officer. vote In the Affirmative.
TO BE OR NOT 70 BE.
Mr. HYATT (rep.D OF Rensselaer, ask TO be eX-
Cused from voting.
The excuse was not excepted and Mr.. Hyatt voted |
MFR. JAcoBs-A few moments ago, when the gentle |
man from New York tMr. Frearl moved the previous
question, voted against ordering the previous
question. stated then and state now that this !
measure could not be injured by discussion. The |
House, by decided majority decided the previous
OF the delegation and large majority OF this House
desire the passage Of this bill. Its provisions IN some
respects wrong IL may he that these provisions
will in time be regretted. But SIR the responsibility
rests not upon me nor upon my associates outside
the CITY or New York but upon those here who repre-
sent the voice OF the people or New YORK. II fhay
misrepresent these voices they viii be responsible
for their acts and as Is their determination pass
voting against 1t. Believing that the majority OF
TINS House Wish me passage OF tn tins S think lhat
fore vote IN the Affirmative.
FINAL RALLY
Mr. KIERNAN-I suppose in this matter the die is
already cast and tnat the bill. notwithstanding any
objections which may be urged against It, Will pass
through the House. ] am not opposed TO the biil,
sir. l am in favor as have always been, OF wiping
out from the salute books OF this state vestge
OF radical supremacy In the State. believe, SIR,
that the doctrine or theory OF commissions as pro.
pounded by the republican party was more fatal
to them tIan It has been to the democratic
ana notS the SOONER We get ria Of them
between the Members Of hSA parties afs this s1oas hoass
and that this bill Is determined to he pushed hrou5h
but cannot vote against It's PROVISIONS. I cannot
now vote against 1t In order to keep my record
slssent But am not In favor of ordering this bin
TO third reading. never saw the bill until last
evening through the courtesy OF q friend. sat up
last night for Two hours after the House adjourned
until one o'clock reading the provisions OF this bll
ana even then had not entrey completed the task.
came into the House this morning not knowing
its provisions, and have asked men OF both sides to
have an opportunity OF understanding ls provisions.
Mr.. speaker, have number OF amendments that
ments are SUCH, Believe as viii recommend them.
selves to both parties lido not think that II the ma
lorty ol this House order this bill to third reading
we shall ever have an opportunity OF discussing ITS
provisions. | therefore Withdraw my excuse and
vote IN the negative.
Mr.. LrrTLEJoHN (rcp.) OF Oswego-I am afraid a
TO the government or the great city OF New YORK. /
have been called upon about this charter for
lner occosOn and broke loose from my party to
vote against the abolition OF q commission. | be-
heve IN the people having responsibility in regard
to the institutions OF their own government. / be-
lleve my own party was IN error IN imposing com
mission upon the government. This morning, when
tns ans o ,horso1s was presenteG had not seen L
cussed. believe In regard to this charter as to
every other measure that n IL be right it becomes
strong by discussion. II 1t be wrong why. then, we
VIII know II. have consulted with leading men OF
New York and tney tell me that the charter Is &C.
ceptabe 10 the republicans OF New YORK. shonid
ike TO hear a discussion on its provisions and /
must vote upon the sae from which the light Is
given me.
THE CoRNs OF A DEMOCRAT rRoDpEN UPON
Mr.. NELSON, (dem.l OF Rockand county-I ask 10
be excused from voting Tor the purpose OF saying
that the charter offered here few days ago did not
do all that It set forth. II id not abolish the
called republican commissions. and beg to state
that II IL not precisely Just to call them republican
commissions. BY looking over the journal OF last
winter, which hold in my hand, lind that those
ron New aSrk ana Mr. whsn MrRy ns demo Mo-
cratic members OF both houses included Senators
mission as well as for the School Comm ssson bfii
Senator Creamer being appointed Ta.U Com MIS-
SiOner. Yet those gentlemen cry out against any
gentleman holding two ofrices at the same time.
TINS may be consistent and democratic but must
say, as an humble member OF this haylOft and
cheesepresS democracy, that IdOubt IL. H.augnter}
The truth 49, Mr.. Speaker Charter as It was pre-.
sented here few days ago was an outrage and
fraud,
PRETENDING TO ABOLISH
the c0mmiss IONS OF New York. but doing no such
shnG: m Il did abolish two but carefully preserved
pretending to be democrat. that 1t was O demo-
cratic measure; that ne was IN favor OF wiping
out the commissions OF New York. That was not
strictly true, and under oil the circumstances ane
as the charter now introduced WIN prove beneficial
withdraw my excuse and vote in the Affirmative.
Mr.. MrrcHEM-Tne reason voted for the school
bill was to make the Speaker tMr. Ihtchmanl the
Mr.. NELsoN-T hope you Will also inform the
House whether the vote for the Commissioner or
Taxes was to make senator Crcamer tax commits.
sioner. U4aughter.)
Mr.. MircnELl.-Ihey were not republican commits
sions.
Mr.. NELsoN-If they were not republican commits
sons It was the old system of election.
Mr. KIERSAN-l desire TO explain why voted for
those commissions. Where the local authority has
the right Of local government am In favor or tin
favor Of such commissions
MORE REiNFoRCEMENTs.
Mr.. SELKREG trep.] OF TompkI1s-The question Of
commissions IN the city OF New York has occupied
the attention OF TINS body for some time. |
missions. nave sustained them each time for the
simple reason tnat the substitute offered for them
was far worse than the commissions themselves |
have lot part in the creation OF those commits
si0ns have steadily refused to have tot part in
their creation. The charter now introduced Is, In
my Judgment far the best Of any charter which
has been brought in here for q long series
OF years for the great metropolis OF the
naton--a metropolis OF million people-and
the government OF hundreds Of millions or properly
city that controls the energy, the wealth ana the
enterprise OF the nation II the provisions OF the
charter carried . good government will unques
tfonabiy be the result. have seen the charter and
have had the privilege OF carefully examining IL.
In my Judgment the commissions should be abol-
lshed ana The provisions Of the charter carried out
|, therefore, withdraw my excuse ana vote IN the
affirmative.
Mr. WHITE, (rep.) OF New York; desired that
some Of the provisions set forth Ia this bill might be
discussed. had some amendments that desired
to propose; but as those amendments Will probably
be submitted to the senate and so many wish the
bill pass waive my views. desire to say that be-
ieve that The bill In its main provisions Will work .
great reform in the OF the city and county
Of New YORK. In It's provisions the charter possesses
measures which not only sets forth new interests.
but II Is vastly superior 70 any bill Of the kind that
has been presented for your consideration. Under
allithe circumstances tdink we shall have a better
governmont IN the city OF New YORK than we have
had for many years, and therefore withdraw my
excuse and veto IN the Affirmative.
Mr. YOUNG tdem., or Otsego--l ask 10 be excused
from voting, as have had no opportunity OF exam
inng the D.. | am glad, however, thai It's pro-
visions win abolish those obnoxious commissions
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