The New York herald., 1870-05-13

intention to coil mp the bin to reduce taxation I'M
lneulatey ter the penull5 Orier was disposed Of
THE AHhY BILL
was then taken up, and q moton by Mr.. PoMERoY,
uep.j Kan, 10 amend the first rec Ion ~ hx ng
The reiuc on or the u my aS tnirty tnDasand. IN
steld oi twenty-five tho 4sa ia, WAS a.,reel u.
Ine peno ng mo.i0L 70 strike 0uI sne urst section
reducing tne army 70 thirty thousand was lost BY
yeas II, nays 81.
AR. FgRHi, rep) Of Conn, moved to strike out
the e.eyentl secrlOn provriin or A Dua d 10 retire
army oice d ported 10 them as neilis lent by de-
partinent conmalde. 3 ant chic y OF stan. Ms oD-
Jtctoh was tina. the seoon was tnrea. to turn out
ol Tue service Jhose officers whJ dd MOI voluntarily
resen ln consequence y. the induc emeats neld OuC
" hein III Inc pr -yous section. He Was opposed Ls
y, ~, ~ 1opuaoy rev resns O. woand y oAcArs and
lor this CLASS so long as they lived raher than they
shOuiu ieLeye thaJ an uny aLeIul country had
tarAed the.n out upon the cold charities or the
world
Nj; WILSON, irep.) of Mass, regarded the intention
re, ortel unit .or duty 1t az more pra TIC lbIo
tnan tha Oh the House D for general eAaun nation
VI all the ollcers OF the army covering thee
Messfs. THURMAN and HAMLIN concurred IN the
belef that Ia The retiring process discrimination
Ought 10 o. made b.tYeen those who Ous Il. tU be
absolutely dismissed irvm tn, seruce because VI
tnelr remissness and those who hal become DIS
IuaLned 10. outy Dy wounds or disease contracted
Alter discussion Mr. WILSON offered an amend.
ment TO provide that the oTCers " De rcp0r ed TO
the board sba be ouly those unit 20, duty IRON any
cause other tnan injuries nclrrel Ia the ne VI tner
duty.
Mr. THURMAN, tlem.) of ohio, suggested to include
Mr.. CONFETTI. rep) Of Oregon, iasdel-Suppose
the disease DC d .iitium trcmsnsY (LaugnteI.
Mr. WiLs0N--Fhen It wouid not hs~e been IN
The amendment was agreed TO, and also an
amendmeat by Mr.. HOWARD 10 insure 70 every oif-
Ger reported Tor retirement hearing beiore the
board.
Mr.. Ferry's motion to strike out the section was
lost
discussion ensued upon the amendments by
Mr. SHERMAN to allow re lred army officers 10 hDid
civu once; ani by Mi. CARPESrER, repeating the
act OF January "a, 1870, reatng TO retlrcd officers,
ana providing, upon the,rOwn application, f0f their
a 81 nuent 10 duty except service wilh troops,
professors Ia colleges no coinpens ltion To ID; al
lowed during such service except actual expenses
and mileage. Mr. Carpenters amendment was
adopted.
Nj. SHERMAN rdiculed The idea that the people OF
the United States were afraid OF undue military in
noence in nelr affairs by the election to office OF
reureu army officers. He thought that IN the case
OF General S.cKies Mr.. Fcssenden and Others, who
had each lost leg in the service no prohibition IN
law should be continued whicl would p.c,ent TN ir
ho.ding once He knew OF an oifcer tll.it mad
almost lost his lise who was now breathing through
one lung, and wno wouid be honorei by The people
OF ONO WITH any once he would accept. WOaid ne
be denied the right to hold once merely because no
was wounded IN the service OF the country
Mr. iRuMBuLL, (rep) OF ILL.,, remarked that laws
must be made of g.n, ra character, lhougn hard
ships might be done m Individual cases. Il retired
officers We're anowe1 TO hold civil ONCE the law
would he evaded and persons would be placed On
the retired list means OI acquiring an appoint
ment III the civil service. lie uld not beueve IN
administering civil offices by the military authority.
MI THAYER (rep.l oil Neb., thought, II the Idea was
To do justice TO all that all TIE Rank and lie met
danger in the front should not be forgotten.
A lengthy discussion followed, ia which Mr.. CoNK-
LING trcp.) ot n. Y. read from the statute On the
subject to snow that any army Ollcer acc cepting "a
dpomltic or consular position was required TO VA
Mr. WILSON, in reply to an inquiry put to him, said
General Slckies now held his diplomatic appoint
menr by virtue of one years leave OF absence from
lie Tile leave would June.
he would have 10 resign from the army or come
home He did not dlaw his salary as an army
Oiiicer by reai OF the law prohibiting the drawing
oil two salaries by the same Official.
Mr.. THURMAN inquired whether General SchofeId
forfeited his military position 10y accepting the post
OF Secretary OF War;
Mr.. CoNELiNG replied that the statute did not
cover that case.
Mr.. CHANDLER, trep) OF Mich. thought that of all
men in the world retired army oicers the least
capable OF doing the work OF clvi officers.
Mr.. Snerman's amendment was theu rejected.
MIR. TRUMBULL moved 70 anenu the IwenIy first
secuon 30 as to prohibit any officer OF the army,
either Qn the active or retired list, from holding
civil ONCE.
MIR. SHERMAN said that army officers were fire.
quently deputed to act as inuan agents, and tnat
tins prohibition would reverse the practice OF tine
government in this respect. He tnonghC 1t was
aimed reproach ut the President, who had re-
peatedly appointed army officers civil POSITIONS.
IG would preyent the President from availing himself
af tho experience OF military officers in any civil no.
siuon. y w0uia nave preven ed General scnvrsia
War and General Sicktss from going 10 Madrid
Mr.. SUMNER. .(rep.) OF Mass, thonght thele was
clear distinction between officers on the acCiye Lat
and retired officers, and that the latter ought not TO
be excluded rom civil service.
Mr.. MORTON, lrepl OF Ind. said the amendment
would cut OIL every officer now assigned TO pubic
duty on the Plains, the private secretaries OF the
President and many others. IL would look very
much like u direct blow AZ the administration, and
would be SO construed by tle country.
Mr. TRUMBULL's amendment was then adopted
yeas "a, nays Il.
The fifteenth section providing fixed compensa
ton for each grade OF 0ircers In the army, was
amended by striking out the part relative to pay
OF general, lieutenant general. major general and
brigadier general.
Mr. BUCKINGHAM rep.) OF CoDu., moved to strike
out the WHOLE
Mr.. THURMAN said the chairman OF the House Mill
tary Committee had stated that this new system Of
fixed salaries would REFUGE the expenses Of the
army, whne the chairman OF the Senate Committee
believed The expenses would be increased. lie be-
lieved the proposition to be one that would do away
Win the commutation system and specify the pay OF
officers fairly and integibly In order 10 secure a
proper graduation of the pay without increasing the
aggregate cost, which could only DC done by COM
mttee, lie moved to reconlnit rle bill 10 the Military
Committee Not agreed tO-yeAs Is, nays I'll.
Mr.. BuCkinghams motion to strike out the df.
teenth section was agreed i0--yeas 23, nays IA.
AfJer some iuruher unimpurtant amendments the
bill was reported TO the Senate from the C0Inn,Itee,
when motions 10 strike Out the first and eleventh
sections and TO adjoura were severally rejected.
Mr. TRUMBULL, III reply To MIR. Stewart, said the
bih would not go into erect Tor year and haIf.
Mr Ross, (rep.I Of Kan, expressed contrary
opinion, believing that the bill would actually 90
into operation during the present year Ia cOnse-
quence OF the expiration Of terms OF enlistment.
The bill then passed, when the Appropriation bill
came up In order.
Al ten minutes past six O'Clock the Senate ad-
jourDed. -,0......... ....
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