The New York herald., 1870-02-13
ROME.

Progress Of the C0uncil-Plain Speaking by
The Prelates-Church and Stnte-French
ssynpetuosit y"-Diooesnn Appointments.
ROME, Jan. 90 1870.
The sittings Of the general congregations OF the
10Th and 2isI anu probably OF thus morning. have
been remarkable for the energetic speaking or some
Of the leaders Of the Opposltlon in the Council.
The matters in discussion relative to discipline be.
ing cassed under the heading OF three ScheDtata.
according TO the government programme comprls-
ing the duties or bishops-the mode of living Of
Chertci, by which expression we are to understand
the clergy or whole class OF ecclesiastlcs and the
reformation Of the minor catecnism, it is evident
that the fathers were summoned to speak upon SUBJ
]ects highly interesting to tnem
Wednesday the Archbishop Of Smyrna Monslg.
neur Spaccapetra made an eloquent speech, the pur
port OF which was In reality to advocate the modern
doctrine OF complete division OF Church and State
q doctrine always hateful to the Court Of Rome. The
Cardinal Legate De Luca evidently considered that
the Archbishop had wandered long way from the
original theme Of the duties of bishops and observe
to him that In nscribing his name on the list OF
orators on the preceding day he had not specified
his intention OF entering on this topic, which he
therefore requested him 10 cease speaking on.
Other blsnops rose to maintain the privileges OF
the orators tribune, and opined that even If the
speaking, enter into tho ordersof the DAY. 1t was Of
such overweenng interest that any tormalities In
opposition to 1t might be waived.
Monsgneur Dupanloup .spoke for the drst time in
the general congregation Of yesterday and found
heme worthy OF his impetuous el0quence in the
lives aud habits OF tho clergy. dDropoS OF which
launched out into comments upon the customs ana
careers OF the prelates OF the Court OF Rome winch
must have been anything but agreeable to 'ears
politen at the Vatican.
Among the propositions Of the government
respecting the duties OF bishops was very import
ant one by which, carried the nomination OF their
respective Wears general would no longer remain
with them, but be attributed directly to the Pope
THIS naturally encountered most vigorous oppOsi-
tion from the liberal fathers, several OF whom spoke
against IL complaining that the Council of Trent uad
already taken away too many OF their ancient rights
ana privileges, and that 1t would be more pur-
pose 10 restore some Of those instead OF reducing
still further the independent action OF bishops IN
their respective dlocescs.
IL Is evident from the spirit thus aroused in tho
Ecumenica Council tnat the fathers not disposed
10 pass unquestoned the pretensloDs OF the Court OF
Rome In any category except perhaps, tnat or the
corporal assumption OF the Madonna. 1t Is, on the
contrary. becoming more and more probable that the
whole OF the olliciat scienatd or propositions for
canons elaborated with so much care and persever-
ance during the last year by the preparatory CON-
missions will be rejected at any in their original
FORM by the general congregations, and therefore,
Will have to 60 through anotner long Course
OF digestive manipulation aud modification
Faitn, Discipline, Regular orders aud orient al
Analrs--before they can Obtain that prelimi.
nary sanction, II they ever DO so at all,
Of the fathers In congregation without which they
cannon be defntlvely voted on and formally pro-
mulgated In the solemn public sessions or The Ecu
mepcal Council The scllenldtn OF faith had all 10
be sent for revision TO the deDutatoa OF THAI cate
CORY, and those Of dicipnne stand fair chance Of
nnasrGoing Tho same iate Reaaon,ng ~ analogy Il