The Fremont weekly journal. [volume] (Fremont, Sandusky County, Ohio) 1867-1877, 1870-09-16

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have experienced the severer side,
but great numbers were killed, and
greater numbers wounded, all of
which has entailed a heavy expense
upon the government in the shape Of
pensions, as well as the debt has in
the shape of interest. Is not this
so?
DICKINsoN-Of course the debt is
large, and that and the interest are
what we growl about, and even go
SO far as to Ky Gen to repudiate.
Well, these atg rather extraordi-
nary expenses, are they not? and
cannot be classed among the expen-
ses of any administration, as they
would have to be paid no matter
what party is in power.
DICKINsoN-1es, they are rather
extraordinary, and would have to be
paid by any administration, unless
they are repudiated.
Will you tell us how much inter
est was paid on the public debt, up
to July last, by the present admins
tration, and how much was paid for
pensions, bounties and other expen-
ses which grew out of the war, and
are a part of the extraordinary ex-
penses.
DICK1NsoN--Well, I don't just see
what you are driving at, but as
suppose you know, it was $127, 1902
$685. for interest $28,94O,2O2,17
for pensions$4, ,993, 700, for bounties,
and all other sources $5O,2O4,O76,5
or total of $211, ,241,116,73.
Then the actual expenses that
could de properly charged to the ad.
ministration after all$8O,982, ,935, 40;
is not that so?
DICKINsoN-Well, if we are oblig.
ed to admit that these expenses We
have been talking about, are moi
legitimately chargable to this ad
ministration, any more than they
would be to any other, ofcourse thai
is the proper amount. But you seC
that is over $17,OOO,OO0 more thar
was expended by Buchanan.
And Buchanan's time was ter
years ago, when the country, had ont
third less the people in it, and whe1
the expenses would naturally hav,
been less. Again, the amount ex
pended by Buchanan was in gold
while the amount expended by tn,
present administration was in cur
rency. The difference in valu,
would make the amounts nearly tn,
same, would it not.
DICKINsoN-I suppose so. But
government dollar is a government
polar, whether in gold or paper, an,
you can't make the people thinl
otherwise.
But the population in 1860 wa
81, 400, 900, at present it is 100000
Now counting expenses dollar 70
dollar, Buchanan's administrator
cost at the rate of $2,7-10 for eacI
inhabitant, while Grants has onl
cost 81, 1,64g which is Is per cent les
for each person than under Buchan
an. How do you account for thai
Mr.. Dickinson?
D1CKNsoN-(slight excited)-
don't account for it at all, sir, it
enough for me to know that Grant
administration has been 'profigat
and extravagant," sir; and when W
tell our voters SO, they believe U
sir, without obliging us to figure
all out to them, and show them hoy
it is. Yes sir; and even accordin
to your own showing, or your party
sir, the public debt was increase
from March 1st 1869 to June S0tl
1870 from 1854, ,O5S,O49, n to 50
652,2S2,684S5-over eleven million
sir! Amt that profigacy, sir, an
Gen. Morgan, the famous retreate.
| mot repeater, and Dan YorhieI
will tell You the same story, sir. ]
was all cooked and primed before tn
campaign began, sir.
Do not be agitated, Mr.. Dickinson
You know that according to law tn
Secretary purchased a certai
amount of bonds for the sinkin
fund, each month, and that he ais
purchased other bonds to be hel
subject to the orders of Congress
How many bonds were thus pul
chased2
D1ckINsoN-Well, $3S,S42, 900, fc
the Sinking Fund, and $S4, 4,586,2O
of other bonds-a total of $123,429
100.
Congress not having ordered th
cancellation of these bonds, the
were held by the government as S
much Of the outstanding debt, an
together with the interest charge
up to the government as such, wei
they not2 And did not the accrue
interest account for the apparent il
crease of the debit
DIcKINsoN-Well, 1 presume that
so; although, as 1 said before, we d