The New York herald., 1870-01-19

pihLC. A6o blauScpt III Dt IoLcEc uONoStE, WOuI
Discussion In tho COuncil--ThO Dccrees ON
Matters or Faith--Thirteen Orators, with
nm Austrian CARDINAL at Thcir Hend--A
Blind bishop Takes Part-Panlhoism- The
Tyranny OF Majorlties-The France-Ger-
man Cnucuses Bishops In Cafes and a
Papal Excise LAW.
ROME, Dec. 30 1869.
Without waiting for hecomplcte nomination Of the
four deputatioHs OF bishops whose Judgment is to
be Professionally competent In questions OF faith,
discipline religious orders and Oriental AFFAIRS tho
general congregation OF tho Council, which met at
ST. Peters on the 2Sth, after electng twenty-four
fathers for tho deputation OF religious ORDERS pro-
ceeded at once 10 the opening discussion OF the
eighteen projected decrees matters OF faith sub
mitted by the preparatory commissions.
In accordance with the Pope's regulations, the
orators desr0us OF speaking on the subjecttbr;een
in number-hai inscribed their names beforehand,
Cardinal Rauscher heading tho list. But not all
these preates actually ascended the rostrum. The
Cardinal got up first with studied Latin DISCOURSE
but as he was but little heard and less understood,
his Eminencc had to raise his voice by degrees to q
perfect shout which, considering the time he kept IL
up, must have sufficiently tested the solidity OF his
lungs.
spaccapietra, Latin Patriarch OF Jerusalem, fol-
lOWcu IGbuoSuCIp ouu u0 was 5uCCCcuOl Dy
the Bishops OF Halifax and st. Louis and an Old
Italian bishop, who, whatever may have Deen his
talent In speaking, must have been ''all carr In lis
ening. he is stone blind and only receive I'm
pressions through the organ OF hearing. AS only
ve out OF the thirteen inscribed got chance
Of speaking the subject, whatever was, is to be
resumed In t0-days sitting after the election OF the
deputation on Oriental affairs.
have been informed that the first topic thus In
troduced to the consideration OF the Council was the
new German doctrine Of Catholic Pantheism. kind
OF grating or philosophy on to orthodoxy which
docs nor suit the Court of Rome. The bishops who
spoke were mainly OF the opposition and the report
which circulated In society frequented BY their
party that evening was that they had made slash
ing speeches and mad totally crushed the govern
ment programme What this triumph can consist
in, while the debate is in so early a stage, am
unable to realize especially as the bishops them
selves are at an utter loss comprehend the mean
Ing OF their speaking colleagues, and have applied
for copies OF the shorthand reports OF each preced
ing sitting keep them up the mark with respect
10 what sald. This request has been refused, on
the pretext that the stenographers' reports
served 10 form q collection OF Official Documents,
from which To compose an authentic history OF the
Vatican Council.
II Il very evident that the thinking and speaking
portion OF TINS ecclesiastical parliament will, as III
small minority, but as that minority Will belong
cheny to the opposition IL ts apprehended that II
their votes are unanimous upon the principal qnes-
lions and are nominay registered, the hundred or
two names thus published to the world VIII be those
OF the enlightened and independent members or the
Roman Catholic hierarchy, IN opposition TO those OF
the unexaninlng and unhesitatingiy oDedient ma
j0rity whose mere numbers OF votes snail have car
ried through the Council whatever the Pope pro-
poses and negallvod whatever he disapproves. This
VIII certainly be Kind OF protest. but no Immediate
practical result is to expected from It, and ~ to the
nnapoa a,lnt
with all the French bishops and the French IroOpa at
his back, In OF the publication OF any particular
dogma, do not think We shall witness any such ex
citing spectacle
A feeling IS beginning to prevail, even at this
early stage OF the conclary proceedings, that the
Will proceed from internal and not external causes,
II such . melancholy Hydie really does wind up the
Popes cherished scueme Meanwhile his Holiness
n erdeayOrlnu to NUT stop to the sonisyblnd sort
OF meetings which the French and German bishops
have been holding at the houses Of their several
bishop OF Orleans residence In the Villa Grazoe.
aud those Of the latter at M0nsgn0r Eardps palace
cular from the palace forbddlng bishops TO congre-
gate together In greater numbers than fifteen at
time. and then only Tor social purposes. HIS Holi-
ness does not approve OF the OpDosltOnlAtS holding
cOi,Ciltlrn IN c0ncttiO, and 80 preparing united
course OF action TO he pursued In the larger assem-
bly,. The bishops consequently begin to appreciate
the difference between living in the Eternal
City under the immediate ferrule OF their
schcomaster, ,o, 80 10 cai him. and tho , free
RSs@ssSA~
dioceses ut home, 10 which, no doubt, weeks and
months roll on. they will feel more ana more anx-
each others houses the fathers OF the Council viii
still have neutral ground on which TO carry on
their cOnfabulatlons IN the houses OF their different
ambassadors. There were no fewer than sixty
French bishops at the French Ambassadors last
reception, and the German bishops muster in con-
siderable strength at the house OF the Bavartan
Minister.
The bishops are supervised here in other matters
besides plotting against obnoxious dOgmas. Cardl-
Ro n uYl0 0ha IN han
issued circular to the Oriental blsn0ps requesting
them to abstain from appearing in tie public cafeS.
These luminarles OF the Eastern Church have been
IN the habit OF meeting IN the evenings Of certain
ces where their moving robes and still more flowing
boards made them objects Of attention and admlra.
t0n to the general frequenters OF those establish
nents Accustomed to the divans OF the Leyaut.
the venerable patrarchs thought 1t q very natural
way OF passing their long rainy evenings In the
Eternal City to meet and smoke the pipe OF peace
together In some quiet haunt; out the Cardinal Pre-
iect thought Otherwise, the episcopal dignity re-
DeighborhoOd OF the Vatican. lnis year the festival
OF the Epiphany, which is celebrated for eight days
IN the Church OF st. Andrea della Vale VIII be the
more interesting from the presence OF many patrt
arcns and bishops OF various Eastern rites. The
octave Is 70 be prolonged I'LL the 17th OF January to
give more Of these pre- ates opportunities OF ofca-
ing and preaching Greek Armenian, Syrian,
Greco. Melchite Chaldean, Maronite, Coptic and
other bishops will take their places by turns at the
altars Every afternoon there VIII be sermons
preached III different languages. The Archblshops
OF Westminster and Baltimore ana the Bishop OF
OF Poitiers Tulle, La Rochelle and Geneva III
French. Italian sermons Will be delivered morning z
and evening.
PontiHcal Rcccpiions-Ircsents from Peru
Coffee Nicely ssIndc Up''-The Tlber and
the Theatre.
ROME, Dec. 90 1869.
On the 18th inst. Mgrs. Norcira and Del Vale.
Bishops OF Ayacuch0 and Huanuco, In the republic
OF Peru, some Spanish bishops and one bishop or
the republic OF Ecuador were received By the Pope
In private audience.
Bishop Goreira offered the Holy Father silver
basin full Of gold coin, with an address stating the
respectful devotion OF the clergy ana faithful OF his
diocese. Bishop Del Vale presented silver gilt
casket, beautifully chased and enriched with jewels
and the arms Of his Holiness, from the Catholics Of
the city Of Lima, with numerousy signed address,
headed by grand marshal, four generals and the
Minister 0f Finance Besides this caskct The bishop
offered an embroidered vestnent, worked by the
orphans OF St. Theresa, OF Lima. and magnificent
bag, adorned with the pontiDcial escutcheon
IN gold and containing o certain quantity
OF coffee. Gencted cad