The sun. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1833-1916, 1870-01-24
OF A CONSPIRACY.
,us INTEREST WHICH THE WHITE
HOUsE MAD IN 1T.

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Observation-Disclosures Inauenco-But-
,srocld Keeping the Ring Informed
RuttcrdcId's Interest In the Operation
THAT Oid Thief, Corbin-What Fish and |
Gould Expected 60 Make.
tfga ncspatchto The sun. |
Ig,suiXoroS, Jan. 23.-James Fisk, Jr, tesi. |
H. on saturday before the House Banking Com.
lree ss follows II the crops Of the country are
,,,ratct-,hat IL, IL the crops are held back and
h, no, moved forward-ou receipts are diminished;
h. lie 18th of last June, Gen. Grant was going on
II B .ton to the jubilee nnd was going over our
issoflcas by the way OF the Fal River; we made
A 10 our mild.-Mr. Gould and THAT we should go
s,s. with him and see whether we could not learn
N,hva to he the policy Of the Administration for
NE cor ns fail gold was then selling at 1885; we
n ,,0 New York to 20 to Boston with Gen. Grant at
Iloat o'e.o.k; we
GAVE MN A SUPPER;
ne conversation at supper was, OF course, on the
Al. Important the topic Of Gnarccs; We talked, sup
,ose arout three or four hours.
| Qne.ttn-Who were Of that supper beside Mr..
Gould ten Grant, and yourseff Fisk-why, Billy
Mir.ion and others; it was entirely an nformal
Thing; | suppose there we're some eight or nine
prs., a. this was the first interview we had with
him We thought we would SIT down and have
.auafe talk with him TO see what were his ideas on
The su, jct; the first thing that made up my mind
/ 10 wa, that Grant was
STUDYING UP TnB FINANCES.
H. was making up his mind on the subject and
that he vas studying into the finance he would Of
course exert a certain amount of power, or rule.
Tue h.,t thing which cropped out was that
be wls on lis way TO specie payment
and lower price for gold That was the
fut hing which struck across us, and
Il struck acrsss US with great deal OF surprise.
We went into an argument with him, to show that II
rod sent to isJ the large crop Of last year could
not 60 forward OF ALL and no one would consume 1t,
n the home consumption would not take it all up
j. struck across US like that and ye went into an
argument TO convince him that
SOMETHING SHOULD pE DONE
70 arrange to get OF this crop at high price.
member one remark Gen. Grant made after we had
talked ABOUT an hour and half that anyway the
bubble might as well be pricked at one time a.
smother. "A much as TO say. n the crash lad to
tomc, /, might as well come at one time as another
Our de of crash, is to have it all milk and honey
with u. and to let the next fellows stand the brunt
pf the crash We want to sell long and let the new
men Lave all the furry.
We WANT ALL THE PUN,
and let the ne1t fellow have all the trouble. In
p,her words, we want to make the money, not TO
lose it. But. Gen. Grant did not seem to reason
1t quite that way. After We came back from Bos.
ton along in July we went down to Long Branch.
rherc was no opportunity to talk there; but dur
Ing this time Mr.. Goold had become acquainted with
Mr. Corhn. VINO married the Presidents sister Mr..
Gould could not disabuse his mind he paid more
sttenton to 1t than did though am doing all the
lalking lie could not dsabuse his mind that this
policy they were pursuing was one Which was going
10 bglns ~
Up Win A ROUND TuRS,
TO ruin u.s. to bring Us exactly where It has brought
ns to the destruction Of every mercantile interest
upon the American Continent, that to day there
Ia not man making dollar who is trading in any.
thlngt our deli was to zee whether we could not
stop the purs uing OF this condition Of things we
iLought 1. We could make them understand 1t, they
would rcad. fall in With our way Of thinking; as
tave s.i4, We went down 20 Long Branch, but did
not have o. success In getting an Interview we
nw Mr.. Bou well. but we got nothing satisfactory
from him when we went to Long Branch 1t seemed
tat Gen. Graut travelling for pleasure and did
not ue3u 10 devote any time to business, and moi
much time to pleasure, not more than hye or siS
months the year he did not calculate TO spend
Iu his tine IN work think along IN July he was
GoISo - NEWPORT.
We are running two lines 10 Boston, one by Fal
Newport which landed there, and which LEFT New
York at lal past six Mr.. Gould on the Afternoon
be was 70 n, was to come down to the boat at III
wharf at half past 1--WE; went to work and wrote
letter, IN which he explained 10 him that we ha'
facts lying on our table showing there 800 sal
OF he Way nom the Greek ports, nom the Blacl
sea. and up the Mediterranean, loaded with grail
for London and Liverpool he told him what we ha
fofeseen IN our conversation or weeks previous
was leginninS 10 work; gold was selling at abou
1874; It was strong letter Of tnrec pages, and
asked ne to take it to Gen. Grant and have tall
with him, and ifI saw Mt to say to Gen. Grant
he Government would not sell gold, we, for th
.ske of ,c'tiHg this TRANSPORTATION for the sake o
getting mi 10! ment for our 100 or 1900 mel
whom We had for the purpose Of moving this crop
whom we had to ray whether We moved It or not
hhe ucu,l the poncy was advisable We would 81
IL aud
PUT THE GOLD N,rKEr rP
Oapunt where we co nd ship this crop and star
~ ,ral- here; ! went down et1 had long conver
ihon WitA Gen. Gran; on tA Way to Newport
lld st he tme when | lct Gcu. Grant, we dc
Ged tia. lie shonld come to Newport mex
kunl 81 nd In the interval hc should telegraph 70
II Bopse, and either have Boutwell, come to "
por Jr lave some decision of .hc matter 80 tina, "
eo.4 tell -ometting about It; In other words "
we're TO have o conference on ne esubcct; | lcarne
In iLe '4ncr part Of the week that lie had not hear
L hou Nr ulwell and we did not 90 up then
\ Fol 20 De about the first oi August; during hi
tne Nr Gould had becoW' acquainted in ccnne'
ton VII the Paterson ana ",~alk Railroad, wit
Gi' ca arwoOi, who
MARRIED. Nh. corlN DAUGHTER.
n Ths Mr Cataerwood was uui forward at an eaI
y ueT dl'o tan this as a prop,: person for Assis
N'Tieiurer at New YORK; It seems they though
eeNas iile too near the family and as look
We matter now, Mr., Gouli had made Up his min
VA he policy was PLAIN one 70 nut up gold, an
.-'t would go IN and deal IN gold lot beeyiL
Il pa' 10 tli end the Government would stand sti
4 u'W ne crop was moved of; not thinking Gather
WOOD was Just the man, they concluded to light 0
K nl"'ihr d they dropped Cdth,gwood, and subst
"'si G-i'raeId, Butterleid, through
\ CoRBIS's INFLUENCE
~ ""NNnel into the Assistant Treasurershlp
~ seems at Tat tine Mr.. Corlln hid tax up Il.
N'oT 'aat the crops SHOULD be novel OF at hig
! p''"' lnd ne went one step further, that a goo
y ''' o' ~oney could be made out Of 1t; IfyO
.u'" lsWins about Mr. Colhn, and suppo'
III uu''y you know that when be goes into anythln
s'"'f.'y wants 10 take nli When he reaches u
an hng he wants to take everything there Is 0