, 1870-03-02

,auSe 20 many peopse csue loto ~ o1so t3 I1n.ps
n sn fnar1f tbip4E-that come OF mel opsfa-
az IN tha siIeet Vsre aware Of tho seegsspa vna
thst the Sec1etat5 Of the Tseaaufy u.eo loi ~
tcspscnes, And 1bes hhe AZ o!d opesasot @. eaas
Vas, aho could rsat BY eouno, 10 pe 10 40 a;ons
The once, ald a en the oespatshee ~ e11us
them to tnesa; The .ios. o., seemed 40 p4AaA0'''
= n,d rn1 Inake any Investigation al TO the
trstnluintss et tost s'osI 4 90 7sdos natI m ,.e
,,q.,s,.5s ps ssyaSs s''f l. Y No ''a' hn0"sos''
an iaf1 nnM,ns Fsafsss11Icn II RurTEaR1E1D
O. Did Mr Jay Gould, o. any o1ai n3 14s n,m T. ous
prx,. plerous TO ths BIZ at.io"n. bay sny 90 Iol
! Joaf f 4. NOT b. my knowledge, consent ausnof'-
y; y ia I Mr. jar Gauld ever say TO You thas he
bsG bnnrnt rpld tot Jpr OF that hs VI! ho!hln9
noId lpf your 2ec5nLt, or Ioaf pfons1 =. ae
sa,d oEce to me 1nat re wns going TO Guy saoe
sosa tSa II. ine ,,ue7 A. eanno: reesa the date.
have 20 icea Of the dale e-,.
Tssss xsssss ~ ~hss ID ID as siaSe sa@ !tan1
ta:s, "Haa not better tuy come gold for yoa Z"
or.."l WIN nny some gold ior ,cu;" caaaos se'
q. w5at d!a you responds A. j made no
,s r a PA ieS .esssS sss5 q asys sz
a. DID he ever tell tou that be had gold fof
foE Jou CT thAt he was carrying gold for Joa q.
he panic, that be vas earring GIG million aud 8
balt Of gold TOR ne II pGoh .,,,s =
@. Have Jo0 that Wlttings A.. talnh !
have. S1ie tue-eauect'7 flsa Il VIII Eae eo2a'
a. ia ,ou make any answer 70 the ws1.lEg
4 nada a yes osl AtsWer To the person ~ao
's q What was your answer: A. Ny ausFer
VIZ. ftat trere vas soue mistake about the ma.
Il ~ haut ny autnor1tt, snd without my kno ~.
cege, corsenr, or acVE:; that II ne bons1t tol1
oE re as toaRa Il On 6Sa ese n 11a e;
give ttat order, AID all the circumstances abolt
l. SID that would Ike to tee him ID rs1ard 10 It.
e soa aalss su1s saas taese @ GesSt osaetea st "a
| Ar. Gould IN tefe1etce to that mater? A.
neser exchanged 4 word OF the auhIec. at gald
with Fnk in ny LIE. to the best Of tnS recoLec-
q. Please state. as near a. 5ou can recol'ect.
! eveIJtblnE tnst occurred between Foa aud NJ
Gould oa tee occasion ot hls proposing to bay gotl
Ior ZOE, that We may see, az near a. poss1o!e,
| tie Whole trsnsac:ions A. Ny impression y,
w,pe1 eelnR Posss aeoas T. toa: ss
| veteat1on was raAzoad acd steamD. at matters.
at 1t ran a.epg .nt0 she general cono.I!oo Of af
| iaIs- lie sad some ethi1g abo1. that he tns7Kbt
gold you'd 30 ur, ard he asked. or rather u,ads q
teua1k, let diug 10 Throw cut feeler TO M that
he Ind better puy soEe gold 1or le. made 10
get ia cptr,on from ne as 10 tic course al Qo'd,
! WHICH Hcaid c2uHit nc or commit The gpvrra.
neEt. e be used IN some way ios the putqcss Of
q. D:A be Eay ANYTHING f1tthir on tie saotecs :
1 v Du tuIL part u kA1 [luftINAts0A NEH9G
utterly At tnA, p0ip.: A. We pssttd Vers shorty
attcr@ a.'., 70 80 doxn toWn and he TO 60 no"0
q Did fe, o. inc TN Of the first conversation
EcitrItd 10. say atytn!tE about huIiag guld iol
ME. cofn!E. 4. Sot <ord.
Q. 10 you knox Mr. Ccrn.n. A. VERY well.
q. D:d any convertasioa ever take ulacs bes#ee,
ycLEteN sud Iii. GoH!t 10 getereEce 70 bay!ry SOL.
for ~. coEo'c. II 1ef.rctce 10 Nj. cor@in'
Q. 0s in tsIe.e.ce to hts having any ttacEacuon
| AZ 49, .N- -.N..+s,
Gel eiai nottern<lds 9:virg him an orEeF 70 na
go;c, apd 81 to his aavIslhR General Du:terfe!d
ahet ,he p,!ee OF gold y aent aoFr. to by snn
have you 60: 10 fas 10 1bas s,atemeIt. A. s
far as am colccrret, 1t Il fa'ae, r.oeser s:a!et
q. DID acytairg OF that kid ever occor betweel
Mt. Gou,d and MY echs e.se spcsk!Ez for yo3 o
nssum" s to speak for 5ou: 4. NeEer p5 N
| lroWlec:c, nnlhrr1tr. Bdvice, coo.e1t, con
nlvance, directly os ied.rcc Il. ID apy way wna:.o
q. D.d soas e!l4nce Ia the o.st conversation Il
which you have relsrrtd. give Mr. Goud aoy lixn
~ assume tCut ccntent to the suggss:!an" " a
Not tue 81 gutes'. People u4ed eli eosts ot us17
70 SisF son ssh:oe out 81 ne, ms w,ta Re fefe!esfe ~ :
cor stspt1y, AZ Jcn may ssy. sk.rnl,ahea " expres
sone rp'hlcr. OF 10 60 something. as supoAet
size vaa to srold tna;, aua wneu ga or III 'uxu
aau. s:iou CT proposition pat TO ne assuued tns
eyeI such cnLrse was possible.
. solA soz gov. 4. Thought twas an tmnrop:
1s
: t1erens d:sctedts The currency of tue govers
I tren, and wholly declined all propositions to pm
q W6eu, theieiore. III. Gould nade p,op'
E a!;1on TO tuy god fos Joa. nuJ tn1 yon u,
5 dtsf r a. tnoa2nt + 3s
i he corstfued LILO suppoa! Ion that believed,
= had ZONE knowaedgs, or Information, tnss 60
q g. ia yeu ever earc apy Conservation ri.
. 1he Tsh,p Sa',olal BapE: !! g. sta,e tas ~
or Could made proposition 70 ne at sous ttnc
y think, before vent Into the Tfea,aIJ. 70 sa
,s iauah d 10 not seeoltct The tlms} 70 meet sot
fasssep. DID ne, asteLd tne mstttn9, aud
+ nt.d ttat II was LOT rght far me to 90 90, a1e
die net entef into IT, held no Atock 10 any bar
nd ;om, a@n 5ny an51oEs EN- 10 Az Ga sn
- ro: think I'D. DO not mink tue aue1scs eV
cage ~ asa,n an;s 1:sssGsd 10 b drap'sl
as 1o1r siIeged goal accouts with h,1, VIA: was t
"a state OF iaat account: ID sour favcr, or a2slt
70 ,cu: a: II was slnplI letter brought 10 \ \
a PIT up a1aln slth su,th, Asrtt1, Gould
ke or takt tue gold md CARY. 1t I5trn. That #
i. q 16at vas after tnc brtak down7 4. ,bt
Us | It nsa tie csJ afler.
- " - knN% !Uu s*J @''A A<NAs -" FA1-t%A
be rpoEre7 ., made 10 wiittsn rfspon'e
e. q. But 10 The messeLxr ,ou SD rhet.
is That TIT re rae zone mistake abo1t the matt
1hatlf ilf. Gould pocsnt aey gold for re
bongtt ii Without ny authority, knoTle1xe.
o1 eonstLt Eid that Haustd TO oodsfstau1 =
to MD taken TIC liberty to give him the oruer
W O Did ,oa 1ece.re aty answer to tna: messaa
\. Nc. 10 lot think u'a- nestr haso s'
TO MI Geald htSce.
lot Guc1Ds $1,000 CHECK.
u u @ Pelhsps }tu have eeea, ID The Ne* 1oss
. =; leS. s!cn ,us srsn see ~ n e ass N.T
IL, To-. 10 Jay GoSl", and b1 hin encu:'su TO =
,e1 o1 wss 1nt1e such d cheek: a. Taete "aa So,
se' O Wha: exo12ra'!ca have Jou 10 mAse to
"a q, Committee tn fciason 'or: A. " hsu ~ c
] ia: ff:s invest'ga,,oa is 70 ss Ito auy: :nitg
M aca hpt tie Eo1a question; ssr. thool, lise for
ale sa,ls1hctto: of the countttt4 stl w'lho1: naz
1ea tlop. TIE fn,ng begins back OF u5 entIance
tue Ttt asur., ard Ii Ilsttet n which ca1 ia,
% ard pslsA:e u,a''er~ aie n11ed up. tnd!.ec:
- little. tue tod long snd te allied stoey, u
ec, had TO coffee ion FDateEet With tbt1 lnses
t1or- Hrs ntswtr cotc.uted a. f.ltoWs:s
ssa rayntns M tte ne1i osy on Test es:sts trs1ssS
q $1,000 fnas mig wsa o3 ny mtad, a
Tsn's1 sn, = so sSi a saG1f ~ iii
lie lie excuse n.e. Ar. Gould. ! hive o ao3d deal +
lms 1ns ! hare 70 90 ont sed borrow s1pcoo 70: 3 3
$ ssSs IL e = e =
Gee III It's soa &C., I'd hs sers
ui!l. cftck 1or sidttV within tltee1 mlhu.es
,t,reed It At dc:oti ed II IN ba1E. Tha:
an, who history Ct that narsaetoo' That vas
O. You pa:e stated that you gave Mr. Soul
sutOo1y e s,5 sGId IL fr 59 5eq "a }oo estF
,a "a q. 10 sll !hut ycu have saio IA relation y
gen lrau. act ons. .ou coser bp1tnR, eeltns. loa
~ and lbe 1EoIe c.uts cl tIolEaclous iha: ha
A. @. Ard I'll ,our arsEers IN reference 70
rsss u "a a5s usDaaeoo: asssa I
s; ! tne q. WEa' vas tue coustderatleu 70. t>a: q
Wy: 5e1 Mnsoas M = secarlti: ] 4. wlsaaas seeirs;:
Fo"n I. Wat yo11.uotc tasen :. 70. ~.
mat. G. Hare Jou repa11 that slo.mp: =. ~.
s!s sas.s q We're goa at atg tltne, *h.le Esu yer
ns; s!.ianr TIeaeuIer+ maoe 1sre Or tae pafpo'
1e 3 u fee
..on q. nd NJ, Goaia eses sse Ioa to rstnE is',
4 70: na;s az e Fess5 s9sa hin
PIP y r. q. LIS Io,hi: & teen said anoutts 4 \
n,m q iIo ,oa regard 4 s. sal loaa A.. a. y
.'yre o. ARE Sou seaoain;ea win +. Lane:
uored haze r. arocsIsiance WITH nim, o;hs7 tnal
| te YES the MEsseL SET who brought saas
1es' frou III. Gould Which so0Ee OF, in IeieEel
tic ale: ed purchase Of gold;
n re- Ne;eI: c,d 70: tnow hin wtcn re came
nt,i nos Q, Did te Say arJt1irg about sha' tsaas
p1.ed '" x Sxn.+ r,1 rs sa1r A. He aad hs va
now | doS., ~ NJ G:nn,d - settle m the matter:
st or S.sht,trw astia II ~ tnat ,ne Tshne ,rtsv
!. OWL | - rrt ietn fsr npwsna,e-s
@. DID he say that IN the na'u:e or . II
~ ~ j. No. IN the rainze Ct Unrest Of hss o~
c soA9 rasher u tee Ea:use Ct iIte1diJ "a M sise
!. A. en,n: snmn,om,se ln.i9 9s ot ~ a. sonetmre,
@. What MSS !o1f repiI! 4 NY req!
>,n tsst should 60 lo1hlIg IL the PREMISE,
.LD. Knew the kutIorl1y atI otders he hal. "
IDS Of TIE esldsnce IN the Datset, AID thea