The New York herald., 1870-12-02
Saint Joseph A. Young, of
Utah, Interviewed.
His Views on the Condition Of Affairs in Salt
Lako-What He Thinks Of Polygamy-The
Schisma.ic Law Religion, Piety and
Progress-Mr Hooper, the Mormon
Delegate to Congress, on the
80 and the Cullum Bill.

viewer up stairs 10 room AZ near 10 heaven as
tho builder OF the ST. Nicholas ever got while In the
nesh. CHEEKY "Come in' whistlea through the
keyhole in response to a knock OF eager expect
ancy. The opened door disclosed 70 view three
gentlemen sitting In easy positions In bedroom OF
no great proportions. The gentleman whs SAT near
the door was the Mormon Delegate to Congress, Mr..
Hooper, gray bearded, stern looking man, pleasant
TO converse with, overnowing with texts from the
congressional Globe, grmly humorous and full OF
scorn for Gentle ways. Tne reporters eyes wan.
dersd inquringy about the room, and OF length fas
tened on the principal figure In the picture st.
Joseph himself He had always thought that Q
youth 30 highly favored by the CHURCH and the
ladies. distracted by The attentions OF dozen
"Prairie Flowers and t eM
DOOMED TO MARRY ALL THE OLD WOMEN
who In the future would express their .'afInty for
him must necessarily be weak, emaciated creature
lank In body, uncertain In gait, long.haired and
dyspeptc. The vision OF St. Joseph which comforted
the reporter was, therefore, surprise. Fat, fair
and nearly forty; broad shouidered and nsshy, and
nearer to six than five feet In height. the Saint sat
the picture Of c0ntentment and good hninor. HIS
bulky figure swaying to and fro on rocking char,
covered the other parsonage of the Mormon trln-
ity-a bald-headed, silent gentleman, chuckling
quietly In corner as he gorged himself with men,
tal food from heap OF morning papers.
After the usual compliments were exchanged tn e
reporter endeavored, by few leading questions to
ascertain Mr. Youngs views upon the subjects Of
which he supposed the Of the Prophet ought to
have some accurate knowledge But Mr.. Young was
ON the defensive, and intmated that he knew
nothing, and II he did it was nobody's business.
But while he was entirely reticent Mr.. Hooper
painted for on opportunity to e
LET OFF A SPEECH
on things In general. Describing circle with his
right arm "a Ia M. Cl and with his left hand
sunk In the deep recesscs Of hls black wastcoat,
Mr.. Hooper launched out into description of
matters a. they were and are in Utah. anathematlzed
'Mr 0ranC' and the United States officials In Nor
mendom, declamed against tyranny, advocated
liberty, sneered at the Gentiles and finally con
ciuded arst rate speech with Q flourish and
blow OF the desk that was not there. During all
this time st. Joseph moved uneasy In his seat
corns, and otherwise behaved like man laboring
TO be delivered OF weghty thoughts. The Innocent
smiled at the manifestations Of the NOV
TnE FAT AND srALwARr SAINT,
ana patiently awaited the result Ae dia not wait
windlass OF his waist over the ether, MIR. Yeuag
q o the mn moii ma
salenty but Dusiiy ENGAGED putting himself In wind
i' snas grand sas
and are greatly misrepreselted. Let them misre-
present Our hides are thick; abuse has made
Mormon hides very thick, can tell you. Who
these fellows who are making much noise In UtahS
Scalawags, ambitious lawyers from the Border
fellows who crowd into Utah to create dis.
turbance for their own ends. tell you wnat-I
TWENTY-FIVE YEARS IN UTAH.
and remember all that passed tnere since. During
Out-nOt lick was made by q single Gentle to de-
velop and improve the country. All was Mormon
thing. The Gentiles did nothing but grewl and plot
Tor the possession Of property made 0y square,
oSessd the aws Of ne States .na
am but simple citizen myself without position
IN the government or the Church, but you may take
this as oitcia If you like. We raise our own meat
aud manufacture our own apparel and we intend
to eat one and wear the other In peace and quiet
ness
WHAT WILL YOU HAVE
(The reporter lntimated by gesture that he was
devotedy attached TO the prin ciples OF the l. A. b.
What win you have us dor Yen say here In the
East that we are hostile to the government but de-
prve US OF opportunity OF proving the contrary.
OF the government in Gtah who is not our open and
declared enemy. Grant sends judges there to de-
eide against US, and the press OF the States men 10
misrepreseut our actions, And why Is this Because
our religion asserts the right OF man TO
PLURALITY or WIVES.
REPoRTEK-oh, yes! polygamy. What are your
ST. JOSEPH A.-They are easily stated. am in
Iayor OF y = and AWAY. WAS and more re lhan that
It. If Inc Almighty would relieve us Of the Charge
We would be glad TO get rid Of the responsibilities
its practice lncurs. Look here Il it takes man
family 1t must certainly take him ten hours work
day to support two wives and two families. See
it9 OF course, it's mere mathematical calculation.
But don't suppose W ; practice
poLYaAMy FOR THE FUN OF THE THING.
work and plenty Of responsibility in Utah. Certainly
you cannot expect to raise families without having
woK nsrd r hs spps But we 40 WORK
earth and are, every enc Of as, valuable to the
Territory We have no social evil'-ne infant-
eide; don't require founding hospitals in conse-
qnence have no paupers, and are "nsalthy. wealthy
and WISE" How is thats We are increasing our
wealth OF the country. ''Am out recrullingS' you
ask. Well, suppose am; what OF 1t? Ny motto
REPoRTER-6ring 'em youngY
ST. JOSEPH A. tseverely)-My motto is progress,
Sir. II there in this city those who desire sin
us in Utah shall not do anything TO baik their
purpose.
Inere is nothing, believe 1le, In our laws which
cOmpels man to have more than one wife, letters
IN the New York papers 70 the contrary n0twith-
good reason why the people Of the United states
should back up the miserable creatures who are srlv
We only want to be let alone. What has the fact OF
our having more wives than one to do with rights
having Colonies sanctions poy9smy ana notaSy
England 10 India ana France In Algeria In India
THE PRACTICE OF PoLYaAMY
y H. acInowledged by the missionaries Of all the
churches there and BY none more so than by those
oe an Institution In lnaia which could net be 80
destroyed the mss ardent Pretestants and
terlered with. The English government not enIy
recognize 1T, bnt make their 1ndian subjects who
prefer nav,ng more wives than enc to support them
gladly DO P0lygamy is q tenet of religion, and
meme nave right to interfere with AS sad, 1t is
NOT all iun Tor the man OF many wives
- HAVE BEEN THAR
Ana Know y. NOW, y0u were asking some question
wnen you came In. What was iti
MhEPoRTEk-ADout M the condition Of the Terrttorys
ST. JOSEPH A.-Oh yes. But think I nave an
swered that already without thinking to. The Ter.
r1t0ry IN 1ourishng are peacefully inclined and
are peacefn We have no desire to enter the Uuion:
the present government Is enough for M; in fact
too much The excitement caused by the procama.
fion OF the Governor ID dying out, ana the people
are attending 10 their Business. We have no fear
that the people OF the United States with sanction
any violation OF our rights; Dut OF course. II we are
attacked we will do our best to defend ourselves
Y . robber attacks you, won't you fght2 Well, we
built noble territory