The New York herald., 1870-01-06
A R I z 0 N A.
Interview with Governor A. P. 4. Stat.
ford-Liie in the Arizonian Terri
tory-A Land Of Milk and
Honey-Terrible 0utrages By
tho Apaches apathy Of
tho Government

some very important facts were eliclted, TO which
the attention Of the public may we'll be attracted.
Governor Stafford Is genial gentleman ana, though
evldenciny the nrst principles Of true American.
could scarcely conceal his feelings regarding tho
action OF the United states government towards tho
vast and fruitful Territory OF Arizona. He appeared
to regret exceedingly the caousness OF the authorl
tics to the wanton and terrible outrages daily per-
petra,ed by the Indians throughout the wide domain.
The sad want OF sufficient military force to repress
the frequent crimes OF the Apaches committed with
O bold and hendish defiance. was subject upon
which he dwell. with some carnestness.
After adverting ut some lengta 70 the warfare &c
present existing between the mhabiants OF Arizona
and the Apaches who he said. lived entirely b.
pillagc and plunder, Governor STAFFORD went on t.
state that hitherto the most determined resistance
mad failed to counteract the terrible destructio
tney were daily spreading. "rhc Apaches," he sait
are OF a brownish hue small in stature, cunning
treacherous very neet and generally travel 10 DenM
OF TWENTY-FIVE and thirty ihey n9nt mostly I'D
AMBUSH their action Is instantaneous and their pur.
pose deadly. They have entirely eXterminated
people who lived mere long since people mat once
aud cultivated fields. Noth.ns IS now know
0I that people except some broken ruins. Wncr 4
point woefuy to tneir destruction; whiie the uiD
tney existed can only DC eslimateu ny the soil thi \
has accumulated over thcm. The ATacnes are L. 4
their victims by slow and dreadful t0rtures.
KEPORrER-l presume, s.r, that the military SorcSe
Is insufficient to repel well directed attacx on the
Governor sTAFFoRD-Up to the lst OF January We
nave mad an army Of l,5oJ men. wnile the Apaches,
every one or whom is u sava1e. number over ZoOJO,
Inere are only fifteen or twenty military posts
tnrouy yh0ut the territory, aud need noe add that
feSsye warfare, While he lives and property or tn
inhabitants, removed at some distance IRON u
posts are constantly ID amre ent danger & made y, ,cs
Apacnes-nave you ever approacnei them IN =
friendly spiritS
Time after time have the most earnest en-
deavOrs made 70 bring them tO terms, to teacn
them agricultural pursuits and change their mode OIL
existence. But no; scarcely had they been ccrr-
teOusy received wnen some daring outrage wO. !
DC comned siter whc ,aey weuiI ~ oder 70 =
their ruling passion and tney follow 1t with WI.
1t Is almost impossible 70 get at them.
kEPoRTER-T0 accomplish tue Ou, ect sOugnt py
the inhabitants OF Arizona In the way OF arrestfn&
the devastation OF the Indians what military force.
do you tnInk, would he reqIireas
Governor STAFFoRD-ADOur three thousand cav"
airy anu one tnou sand infantry. it s tue opinion
Of military men tnat su;h iorce would WITHIN q
KrposrEawTne land of Arizona is said to bs
exceedingly fertile
The country very r!ca possesses the best OF graz
Ing nutritious eras scs and every vo"ety Of corn
teal you, Ii we wee Tree from the u .nces or the
Indians we cou.d supply the w1r varieties
are very extensive 1he a-aDle la = iuces Two.
crops a year-ODe crop OF Waea, ~..ey and OARS,
and afterwards a crop OF corn. Ine cJu.try has Two
rainy seasons tne result bein. most advantageous.
In lact there Is produced x.UflJu5 VLrlcLy-any-
thing that ID raised ia any Oi the zones Lue
wnaL Is the use u it The lnhablants- a brave,
wao.e soL ID. ndt srcus peol are Gaiy harassed,
10 say notn.ng vi the dlreiul caanitles that daiy
At Is estimated calat wlfnn me last eighteen
mouths ouenintn OF tae adult population Of Pima
have uecn mur0cred, wounded Or made captives Of.
kE. .oRrER-aiay l inquire whether any prOvOcas
tion Ii not gwen to the depredators you comp,ain
Oi. You know, SIR, vi course Ilat there arc two
sides to st0rs.
Governor arArFoRD--Progocason Why, certainly
not. me most Garnet eAottS 20 secure pe1cS
ttuyn IA a n l'~
CHESS In their diabocai crdeit.es. For instance.
when they secure a lev captnes they ce,clrate tae
event the woods villa OarUarvuS festivities.
Tue tribes assemble together for twJ o. three days,
inc victims meanwhile Dela. pnolicii cxposed' to
Inc vlcst tortures. lhey are tn,h slowly put to
death. / nave referred 10 tlc gIeaI wealtl or the
and should have mcnlivnei Lie fact tnaL II -
exceedingly ricn IN Minerals tle DuuIaias aD0uud-
Tag IN goll and sver but the enUitJ VI the inaus-
tr,uls III striving to deve.op tue mines are conf
pleteiy parayAed. There As olc lnlne, perhaps the
ricaest IN me Pacific c1asr. caned Tue Vuture mine,
bus great have been the dangers attending lis
developnent consequent upon the afr ctics OF thc
Apacue5 that IL has almost been abandoned. Inc
Lralus taking tie ore have Constantly attacked
Indeed, very recently sevcaty-Gwo mules ami tieir
drivers were kiiled.
kEf0RrEk-Does not the military force offer any
prJtectlOnf
Governor srAFFoRD-Oh, certainly, and does It's
very utmost DuC as said before II Is Inadequate.
The farmer who tis his ned Is Uu.,xel 10 curfy .
rille, xhe his vile remains at home take OF
the house. reign or terror eX.YtS neaIy Oil The
time.
hEfoRTER-Undcr the circum stances what would
you reCullinoQd uS proper course W Oc purSu6uf
Governor aTAtFoRD-As o masler of &c JnOiny, to
saw nuLnins OF humanity, l THINK the government
sioua expeLd sufficient sun 10 s~cuiea perna-
uent peace. Sucn a course wouii induce 1minIgra.
| tiol. Surrey II you cannot protect yourself YOU
cannot protect the county. | am hr.nIy Convinced
that TIE policy which IL now D@iu1 pursued ny the
government Will never tend to .gciop the country
| while wealth car never be acca.naatcJ.
NEpOnrER-Have you, Sir cousluered what the
result Of the present policy Of Inc government IL
Loyernor SrAFronp-Why the inevitable conse-
e--l tl.ck ~
niauetnat Tue Indians Shall v. acknOwledk kcd the
ru.iug power IN Arizona. earAes,y nope Inc gov
crninenC Will axe decisive step III tue matter. rhe
sooner large population Saa bc attracted TO that
couaJry the Uetler, and alter tine tie government
Will De entirely Tree from IuItnSr cxp.u5e IN anJrd-
ing prOec Ion. In August last Leu Iere1 The gov
cfunrut tue services or 3vU p.ckcl men to enler
| campaign lCr SIX months We llr.snnR our own
horses und giving tame, asAi.ig noIring In re-
turn Dlt our ratiOns. But lhe government declined
Our services Oh the ground tul1 1t iul right 10
! accept them.
kEPosTEa--Do you believe that oppressive meas
surcs towards the lndaas are absolutely necessary
VI tiat they deserve 10 be exlerunlnaLeur
Governor SrAfFORD-By no means. 1 have great
sympatv with the Indians tuut desire to DC peace
9pie and would extend 10 hen ali xndness y, RslO e.
believe III teaching them agriculture AMI placing
them IN position where iLeJ can protect theuI-
serves. do not believe In eALer.nfnaLon, for the
lndtanS have their rights but Cl. Inhabitants OF tle
lerfltory nave also tner riglts ana desire peace.
| There are several very peaceaoe and INDUSTRIOUS
trl3es, including the Pulas aIancJp.s .doiiLve5
iumas fapapsoes ana otnefs, On good terms VITA
the innab1antS and tney prosecute agricultural
iaDorS Wlth carucstitss uIu nDIesty. But ls
| Is easily 10 be sec.l tuat over territory
three times as large as New York soMe
su.hcient force Is requisite IA Order to
| protect the DeaceaDly disposed. may meLLiOl an
lAcident 10 snoW tue v!sor wIth whicn evcn tn8
women delend their homes - lOr when the indians
capture heli tney treat tnen islLlisIuy, SD nor
riDiy, indeed. tnat ueatn 10 the viCtlus were lar
preferable. Two years ago iiienuef vi the Legis-
ature iet his home ior Prescott, whcn was distanG
about two miles. In lis avscaCe tie In mans clina
uad commenced Determined at.acx upol MS house.
iffs wie, = iaty Oh some sci.-9oSscsSion, i.i.ne.
daley armed herself with uuiDie- -oarre4ed e III
uLd was Not Dy any means III Lcce35 u III u5pOsinY
of some VI hcf enemies. BAT AudlS tnlS sue had
only two charges OF shot iet she Lc'pdcncd
i.tte Spaaisa boy To uer nusUL iJ, Informing niin
OF the occurrence anu lcgusstiAg an auut.iOniA
supply OF ammunition. aerely III -nIOn tniS 20 SHOW
yoa mat these attacks are numerous anu uhex-
pee ca that Tie women do zoe ,iesita.e 10 lake UP
ur,uS lor t.e defence Oh tile Country.
EEPuGrEg-lt Is argued tiI. because the territory
OF Arizona pays suc litto revenue 70 tne govern
mcnt lt IL uni ieasOnaEe ASK 1n additional supply
Oi troops. -, - o..,
upf m Il w..