The New York herald., 1870-08-11


speaking, he posted all his accounts In that r0omi
my father generally paid the servants through my
BY the District Artorney-DId you ever know any
OF the servants visit him to receive their paw a:
Yes SIR young girl who has been with us eirnteen
or twenty years; my father kept her money Tor ner
Q. Did you ever see him take any money from that
safe when any OF the domestics were aboutS A. A
chambermad might have been In the room.
o. Now as to the coachman and the males EN-
ployed In that house. who paid themf A. My father
think, directly; not to my knowledge through my
Q. Do you know now he was accustomed 70 pay
cheeks shs or Sy %oaey s
think he generally paid them by money; ne was
accustomed TO keep two three hundred dollars in
O. This young man Kelly that has been spoken Of,
when did you see him first that day9 A. The second
time on going up stairs, In the main hall, with the
Q. Then he had BACKED the shoes A. No, sir;
ne was going down to black them.
| @. How long was that after you had heard the
alarm OF murders A. Ishould think 1t was quar-
Q. During that time was Mrs. Kelly In the room
where your father was lyngH A. did not see her;
| she might have been there.
Well, was not In the room myself more than two
minutes: ! saw no one there except my brother:
neither oi the Kelys had been In the room at that
@ Did you go into the picture gallery A. Irushed
| person concealed In the room.
@ You did not 60 into the rooms at the back part
than the stairs to my knowledge.
q; Did you make any examinations at this time ?
O. During that time neither Of the Kelys came to
the room, did theyP A. The first time saw Mrs.
Kelly was, think, the second time came to the
saw only my brother and my fathers body; when
| saw young Kelly told MIN my 1ather had been
oe he o a e
| fall nor did he make any remark; do not know
Q. Where did you @ gof % A. went into the dining
room; have recollection OF the gaslight burning
In my father's room; noticed the safe door open.
fngY A. No, sir; never touched his clothing; did
Q. Has Kelly done any business for yous A. Yes,
SIR he has gone errands; he has taken my vase TO
the railroad depots and such like generally paid
him 1fty cents and sometimes IN paid his car fares
don'tthink he received any.
q. When your father was home did he ever attend
him at alp A. Nothing more than blacking his
shoes and doing errands; my father left bis shoes
outside the door; that was the custom Of the house.
afternoona A. was home at fve minutes past hve
and he was then at home IN the library; l believe
hal!oed down to Mrs Kelly II my father was home,
and saw my father sitting at the table.
@. Did you see William Kelly about the house
before you left to go to your aunt's9 A. am not
positive; do not think I did.
Q. who remained in the house when you went to
son; the workmen had left at that time
Q. Did your father send word that he was going
to be home that n1ghtY A. Whether he spoke Of 1t
make his bed do not know, but IN the morning
there was something said to her; was not home on
Wednesday evening; was In the country; she knew
from some of the family that my father was coming
home.
the synagogue; Wash LEFT first; he left about ten
or fifteen minutes past SIX; we did not take any
time to dinner; my father and went together,
leaving the two Keys In the house, as we presumed,
alone.
Q. How early was it known that your father would
be at the house that nigh9 A. May be two or three
told
Monday or even Saturday
Q. You were asked about your relations to your
father. How was 1t with your brother Washington
A. He always seemed to get what he asked for;
never knew Of any disagreement between him and
9. How recently had your father rebusea ham
before this murder' A. He generally rebuked us
night; this was some time before, when the balls
took place at the Academy Of Music.
need Of money! A. No, sir.
Q. Did you know whether Washington was &C
quainted with your fathers buslncssH A. No, sir.
q. think your brother said there was no allow
ance made by your father-when you wanted money
II we required money he would generally give us
O. DID you know anything about your fathers
will, or your brother Washington either, to your
knowedgeP A. did not, nor did he, to my know
ledge; do not know II my 1athr had more than one
Will or not; he had spoken to me about making me
one Of his executors; that might be Six or eight
months ago.
A. No, slr; officer Mangam Is mistaken on that
point; I had never seen 1t belore-in the house or
coach house; was very seldom III the coach house,
especially In the summer, when the horses were not
there.
fathers near-slghtcdness9 A. Yes, Sir, but think
his eyeslght OF late was better than It was; he
always had on his eyeglasses.
Q. Did you notice where his glasses were when
| you went in that morningP A. know l saw his
glasses on the little table next the mattress, where
! they were generally put.
| q.
night without them A. think he might have done
such thing, but ne wonld be liable to tumble over
drawer on the bed; the only weapons I know OF
in the room were the hammer and the saw; had a
| little pistol III my own room; believe my brother
had one, too; my father had canes, but they were
locked UP; he had dagger also, but 1t Is locked up
ton OF the hOuse9 How about the clothinga A. My
clothing / took on and laid at the corner OF the
room, between the door ana the 9a IL lei ieis then
and l gave orders that they should be put aside
when they came back, as did not wish to ever wear
home that morning and sent them to the wash; the
officer had seen them, and supposed he had done
O. You did not see william Kelly for some time
after2 A. The first time I saw him was IN the main
hall, with the shoes In his hand.
q. How much outcry was made by your brother
| and yourself2 A. Considerable, II think, and 1t con
tinued some time, chiefly in the main hall; from
there up to my fathers room.
Q. Do you know OF any one largely indebted u
your father, or any notes OF large amount coming
due about that tme2 A. NO, S,r; know some o.
his transactions, being in the same business; d.
not know any one that had the slightest enmity
arainst him,
Q. Did you hear Kelly say whether he heard any
noise or make any explanation Of the time Of his
getting up or anything OF that kind2 A. No, SIR
| by a Juror-Did you hear any one moving up stairs
| when you woke? A. No, SIT.
@. When did you put on your socksP A. While
my brother was going down stairs. previous to nis
outcry.
Q. DO you know whether William Kelly was In the
house that night at alR A. No. Sir;
@. Did you lind your bro theirs boots blacked &C
cording to customP A. No. sir; do not suppose the
boots were brought up before seven.
@. Did you pick up your fathers pocketbook or
that morning? A. No. str; officer Mangam Is mis-
taken on that point.
@. Did you ever have custody of the key of you
fathers SAFER A. No, sir; have frequently seen /
open; have often got bills out for my father; th
lock OF the safe is common One should think an
one coulo open 1t; 1t was very easy opening safe
one little creak would open 1t; did not hear an,
| noise during the night Of the murder