The New York herald. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1840-1920, 1870-07-03
ROME.
French Intcrests in the OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES
DupanouD Infallibiity-Papal Steno-
grnphers Acknowledgement Almost
Useless.


DupanlouD ON Infallibiiity-Papal Steno.
grnphers Anticipated-Opposition Almost
Useless.
ROME, June 10, 1870.
Although The majority In the Council headed by
Mgr. MermlllOd succeeded In stopping the mouth of
Mgr. Dupanaup, Bishop OF Orleans. In the general
congregation, and preventing about fifty other
bers Of the opposition from speaking on the general
principle OF the Pope's primacy and mlallibility,
Mgr. DupanlOup has delivered a very vigorous
speech the third chapter Of the Schema, in which
he not only resumed the arguments which he in
tended to have produced In his first discourse.
which he was allowed TO do without Interruption
from the legates, although the general discussion
was closed, but he also alluded In the strongest
terms to the continually increasing tendency Of q
party IN the Church to exag2erate the
rights and prerogatlves OF the Roman Pom
tiff. He said:-"When and where will this move
ment, which has been going on for the last fifty
years, st0p2 After being invited to vote the Pope's
1nfaibility shall we not be asked to vote his impec
cabIllty9 But what power Is there without boundss
Even the immense ocean has limits nay, even God
himself although Omnlpotent cannot cause two
and two to make five, instead OF four. Thus the
power OF the Almighty Is not without bounds.
Christ Is the author OF the economy Of the Church;
no man has right to touch that economy and let
us not NEEDLE with it." Such were some OF the
Bishop Of Orleans most remarkable expressions.
which were listened In the profoundest silence by
the assembled fathers.
The Pope was 80 curious to know what his great
opponent had said that he ordered a report OF the
speech to be prepared for him by the shorthand
writers that evening; but Mgr. Dupanloup resolved
that his Holiness should receive correct version.
sent his original manuscript up to the Vatican, so
tnat Pic Mono had an opportunity OF Judging OF the
lid 5hty OF MS steIographerS version.
The members Of the opposition are vigorous and
determined put there Is every probability that they
viii ne overpOwcred by numbers. They can only
protest but notice is taken OF their protests AZ
Mgr. Haynald threatened when the discussion was
closed so unceremonlously on the 81 inst the MEM
bers OF the opposition have drawn up protest,
signed by lo4 fathers, which document has been pre-
sented to the cardina legates by Mgr. Dupauloup
and select deputation. The complaint put forward
IL that upwards OF fifty orators. regularly inscribed,
were prevented from speaking, although the Pope
himself through his legates, had promised that a
patient hearing should be granted to al parties The
proceedings OF the majority, and that any fathers
who had not been able 10 speak on the general prin-
cipes OF the schema might put forth their opinions
respecting its successive details ihe opposing osh-
OBS hold frequent meetings and feel stout enough
to maintain from 100 to 100 decided nOnpidce.s
when the lnialbility is put TO the vote, but
the mo omy Will ride over such insignificant opsta
cles and pronulgate the dogma III they cam on the
10Th inst the festival Of s. Peter together with the
already approved sche1ad.De p1rpo Cntechi sgao.u
The only objection to this high handed mode OF pro-
ceeding Is that the minority bishops declare that
anv dOgmatic DEGREES coming from the Council
WI tOut the moral unanitrity of that assembly are
MOI binding on the consciences OF the lathful and
30 we are in the midst Of contradictions. was at
st. PETERS yesterday morning, aud while the voices
OF ardent orators were occasionally audible over the
council enclosure, even at the distance at which
! the swiss guards keep the public, conversed with
the chaplain II one Of the mos. eminent cardinals
| inside, very straightforward priest who was
heartily tired OF waing and Keeping guard over
his Patrons scarlet hat, and who Oretot that the
Council would drag much longer than is generally
expected.
no MONO ON TIM our vIvE--wANTs ALLOWANCE
| TIME"
The great thing the Pope has NJ heart Is for his In
fallibity be voted After that he will give leave
OF absence TO all those bishops who may apply for
II; but 1t ia not anticipated that the Council viii he
prOrogued at oil this summer. only the hours Ol
meeting will be made earlier, go that the fathers
NAV be back In tner palaces or converts by ten A.