New Orleans Republican. [volume] (New Orleans, La) 1867-1878, 1870-03-03
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all, that you paid these sums!
A. That, d. not know.
@. So, there was no discussion in regard
to this payment in this respect?
A. The remark was made, as | said be-
| fore, that we boys must "come down" as
! it was probable, that he might come into
some trouble with the Governor about it.
and might have to pay lawyers fees, and
we boys must "come down."
@. Then the language from which you
inferred, that you must pay him?
A. That. he said, we must "come down, >
for he might get in trouble.
Q. When You presented your bills, he
| said, you must ''come down."
A. Yes.
@. And you inferred that the words
| 'come down." meant?
A. | Inferred that if we wanted our
| claims audited, that we must pay him
| something.
Q. You put that construction on it, that
you must ''come down. and pay him?
A. He meant thai.
Q. That is, you understood him to mean
that?
A. Yes.
| O. The language used was to "come
| down" and you understood that to mean to
| come down with money. l say that pos
sibly he meant to come down in the bill.
| What do you cay to that!
A. No, sir; he inferred and meant that
we must pay him?
@. Was the money offered to him?
A. Yes, sir.
| @. At that time
| A. Yes, Sir.
Q. At the time you had that converse
ton with him?
Al had seversal conversations with
him.
| o. Did he use these words "come
down" in every conversation?
| A. No.
@. Did he use them in more than one
| conversation?
! A. 1 do not think he did, but it may
| have been.
@. Then it was in the first conversation
that he used these words?
A. do not remember, sir.
| @. Did you at that moment, when you
ha,1 obtained this intimation, present him
with this money?
A. lido not know whether it was at that
time, but about hat time.
O. This is very important; was it on the
| same day or on the next, after you had this
conversation?
| A. am not certain whether it was the
same day, or the next day, or the previous
| day.
| Q. You do not know whether it was on
| that day or on the previous day?
A. DO not know whether that CONVEX
sstion was previous to the day that 1 paid
| him the money. l had cow rsations with
him for several days, every day, and be
always gave the same excuse.
| @. WHAT excuse?
| A. That he had no time to attend to it,
and we must pay him for it, using the
phrase, "come down."
| O. Lid You not know that there was OF
that time difficulty about these bills?
A. No, sir.
@. There never was any?
A. Not that am aware of.
@. Do you not know that there was
some disagreement about the measure
| mentt
A. Mr. Wcklife said there was.
@. You never asked any one about it?
A. No.
Q. You never heard of it?
A, Only what MIR. Wickliffe said, and
expressed my opinion in regard to it.
Q. What was your opinion that you ex.
pressed?
A. My opinion in regard to the measure
ment. Mr. Wicklife told me that 1.-THE
| Governor had ordered him to cut down
the measurement other parties had been
told the same thing and / expressed the
opinion that he had no right to do so.
| @. Have you ever been approached on
| this subject before this impeachment!
A. l was summoned before the Grand
Jury when returned from the North.
@. The Grand Jury of this parish?
A. Yes.
O. When was that?
| A. The month after this occurrence, in
March 1861 think in May or April.
| @. Was it prior to his first removal from
Office in 1869?
A. believe it was during that time.
@. Did you go before the Grand Jury
A. | did, sir.
@ At whose solicitation We're you sem
before the Grand Jury?
| A. I do not know exactly; was told
by some friends that | was wanted before
the Grand Jury, and was summoned.
@. Did you not go to the Governor. and
! at his instigation, 60 before the GRAND
Jury?
A. No, not particularly.
@. Were you not sent for by the Gov
| ernor?
| A. No.
O. What do You mean by answering
mot particularly
| A. called on he Governor, as l was IL
the habit of doing returned in the eve
ming, and as usual, called on him the
next morning.
Q. Are you intimate with the Governor
| A. Yes.
@. Are you in the habit of visiting him
as matter of mere ceremony?
| A. Yes.
| @. On this visit of ceremony, then, was
there any question made as to this pay
| ment?
A. Nothing more than / inquired tt
know what the news was, and that l hat
heard of Mr.. Wicklife being elected from
his office, and that was summoned before
the Grand Jury. l believe that'I had beer
informed the evening bsfore that l was
summoned before the Grand Jury.
| @. Did you not communicate the facts
to the Governor that you had paid thi:
money before that?
| A. Not particularly.
O. Did you not complain to the Gov.
ernor that you had to pay the money?
A. No.
@. How did anybody know this fact?
A. depressed it publicly to my friends
in New Orleans; probably the day on
which l returned.
@. Can you name some of these to
whom you communicated this fact?