New-York tribune. [volume] (New York [N.Y.]) 1866-1924, 1870-01-28

been more TO his taste could he have left the speech to
which everything that was said floor must nlti,
matey come SO long the criticism OF ms sltech I
speech itself it had not been his inten'
ton ever TO trouble the House, OF tno'e VIM
read its proceedings, with anything IN negaIu
10 H. but when the motives that acuated HIM In its de-
livery deliberately impugned on ,no hoor VI i,
House there was no alternative left him but TO ASK ls
udugence TO the extent winch lie had Indicated; and
therefore he would proceed directly ana without rheI
speech That speech was delivered upon bill involving
a great public swork, involving lnheuIateB, as nc
large sum of public money He had been charged with
the duty company with eight other memDers OF INC
House, OF taking care OF the pubic tht ~
had been the opinion of that Committee that ta was
proper OCCASION through one OF ns me of
objection 10 the BILL and 1t had lalISn 10 MS
lot to give utterance to those reasons lie ad peeh naue
the spokesman on the committee on OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES,
and such. had made the speech tha was tne occasion
the speech Of his colleague and he suDniteu 10 to
judgment OF the House whether II was proper Gceaso
for IT. 1t had seemed so plain path Oh auIy 10 n dnr
intimate that he had seized an mpr9Ier oceaslon doi
submitting the remarks which he did But lar more I'M
portant than that was the 0ther lnls' wa h ,d
he had said upon that occasion was true anu ne sto3u
to-day after than week since It's delivery 10 SUP
for delivering the speech put that WHAT ne NJ
tered in all essential and important PARTICULARS the
truth. .
Mr DAWES then proceeded with the book OF esti-
mates in hands refer to item after item OF the est
of the various Departments and TO snow mat ms
original statement ia regard the OF estimates
the appropriations of last year. were III every re-
III was too much matter Of details and Of figures TO
attempt summary OF his arguments In that particular
Passing from the figures. he SAID sh0uldreloce as
much as any man at any development going To show
how much the people Of this country have been relieved
Of the burden OF taxation by reduction OF expenditure
since Andrew Johnson left the Presidential chair But
question that was investigating and the inquiry
tween this year and year, the tendency OF
penditure upward downward; and felt duty
FOR me contribute what was in my power thought
| saw that the tendency upward, 10 induce those
who are responsible these halls in the administration
tendency should be downward, not upward.
Now, Sir figures may be piled upon figures, "Ossa
between Andrew Jonsons Administration in that regard
and the year of Administrations but they do not
that point Of view, but the missiles VIII ian harmless at
reference whatever the estimates Of Andrew Johnson
Administration or the appropriations and expenditures
Administration. We have been told thdt the cst-
mates for year made by Mr. Johusons Admins
tration III spirit OF hostility to the incoming Admins.
Tation not for what Mr.. johnson would carry
on the Administration for, but what Gen. Grant
should carry II on for; ana that IN such a
M of economy the estimates were down
barrass the incoming Administration, and that said
NEUTRALITY-SUSPICIOUS. further 10 embarrass the Administra
tion by cutting down these estimates s20G0O000 Laugh
ter The truth about that statement tat nobody ever
heard OF il until yesterday. If anything 20
whether the tendency eTpendurei upward down
ward in the departments 10 VIII he found IN the two
items for salaries and contingent expenditures and ask
the Committee listen and whether the salaries and
contingent expenses asked for in this book Of est
mates upward or downward. as compared with the
expenses for the present The excess OF estimates
over the appropriation for the present year Tor
salaries and contingent expenses are as follows:
Executive Department proper, $4,000; state Depart
ment, s3s5OO; Treasury Department, S259o9G Depart
mcnt OF the Interior $3.50 DcpaItment OF
War; s6l5O less Navy Department sjCGIO; Agricultural
department, SGiS3o; PostOfice department sJos0.
The total excess OF estimates Tor salaries ana contingent
expenses for those Departments over tile appropriations
Of this year are sj2s,iGs
Washington and Imagine how many officers OF the Navy
indcptIutnt vi C.N ~ i " ~ ~,
Here Mr. Dawes read the st OF olceTs employed IN the
Washington Navy Yard, stating that the number 20,
and that the amount OF their salaries Sl6sJ Beside
these the salaries OF te cN oIcers VINO htped then
10 take care Of the Navy.Yard, amounted TO $500
making grand total OF salaries for the Maynard Of
Washington 81 ,G35 He suggested whether 5000
$4,000 properly distributed in private yard would not
be effective for the purposes OF the Navy speak
ing of Admas yachts he asserted that they cost eaeh
OF them $500 day II this $500 day were taken and
used for Substituting the mercantile marine Of the
try it would tend to encourage trade and enterprise,
and commerce, instead OF BENG mere waste aud useless
Referring to the suggestions made yesterday by Mr..
Butler that he Dawes should have gone to the Depart
PEELED TO say just what had ranspred ana tue country
would Judge from 1t whether he had been unfair or nm
just When the estimates were PM IN the nahus oi oo
Committee on AppTopnatiops ln9 Pjit nJ
allotted among the nine members OF ke Conmttee anu
me would say here that the Democratic members OF inc
Committee were as faithful as any OF tehl III te us
charge OF that duty With these balances staring tut
In the face the members Of the Committee were charged
with the duty of visiting all the Department. ana seeing
where the estimates could be cut down. me Interior
Department and the Treasury Department had fallen to
his lot The other Departments were distributed among
the Qtner 4enbers Of the Committee Eight Of the nine
members Of the COMMITTEE had spent the three
weeks OF holiday in that work. and had been con,
slant visitors at the Departments lie himself
upon him. the Interior Department and the Treasury
Department and when one Of the Committee had - 20
home he had taken OF his hands the War Department.
The other members OF the COmluee had visited every
other Department and portrayed their balances 10 them,
and they had each reported TO the Committee that they
sorry for the balances put tHat Tor tLat depart
ment the estimates could not be cut down IL was due
10 the Secretary OF the Interior TO say that while he SAID
1t impossible to cut down the force IN MS Depart
ment he could cura expenditures outside, IN the nos
pita CT insane, in the deaf aud dumb asylum, aud
In the wOmen's lyng,n hospital. Laugnter.l Az that
when the Secretary OF the Interior could not
cut down the estimates for his Department. there was
single bureau there that had accumulated $4,000 sur
plus it had had appropriations from year 10
wear more than could and without saying word
about that surplus, asking S2sOO0 more, and say
ing positively to the Committee that 1t could not curta
Mr Dawes went on 10 relate Ike experiences in the
Treasury Department, and said: went away from the
Treasury Department discouraged. took the counsel
Of influential ehtemen III e party WIN TINS Oook Oh
estimates under my arm, which has been constant
President myself: and laid these estimates and these
balances before him. But latter short pause, ana in
thing do know but that he has more confidence in
my colleague Bullerl than in myself IL may be That he
into new life Laughter. know not how that may DE,
nor calculate what will be the consequence OF that
resuscitaOn: laughter but fan would believe that the
President believes me tn he his friend ana were To state
the simple truth OF what passed between myself and hun,
so Ike him. TO himself 10 would he better Yndled-
OF him and Of me than anything thar can be SAID lie
talked OF economy. lie said that his influence should be
eXered to bring down these estimates lie sad that he
had made personal examination Of the estimates Tor the
War Department lie knew the estimates OF mat Depart
meu better than Others and lie thought that the estimates
for Department cut down low az they could
be- After that statement from man whose polar star
in the administration Of affairs is economy, ala not
think IL worth while to appeal from him 10 the Secretary
who had not been month in ms eat, and whose second
official act read from the Clerks desk here yesterday,
is letter TO my colleague IN ad OF his
assault on the Committee on Appropriations
In its efforts reduce the expenditures therefore, SIR,
examined INTO all the Departments committed To my
charge, and say. that every other OF them
amined by the other members OF the Committee IN the
same way and now II worth while for us with that
knowledge try and induce the representatives Of the
people 10 cut down expenditures. the work belongs