New-York tribune., 1870-05-09

GIandl,r Hox,n kcYf
Conklng. MeCreery S'OkaOa,
Abbott Ferry. s1 xor,oa Ross
cs%,Ton Hamilton Creras) Patterson,
Dasts Howard Robertson
The President then announced that the bill was
before the Senate. Mr. COnkng hoped that II would be
proceeded with. Mr.. Morrill,, of Maine moved to post
pone for the purpose Of proceeding to the consideration
of the Legislative, Executive and Judicial appropriation
bill. Mr. Ramsey aud Mr.. Conkling called for the Yeas
and Nays on that motion. The Yeas and Nays or
dered, and Mr. Conkng said that II the Senate so
disposed could take final action the bill before leav
Mr.. morrill,, OF Maine replied that there was not the
slightest probability OF such thing that Mr. sumner
tute for tile bin which he intended make a speech
Mr.. Conklng said that he did not anticipate extended
speak TO the merits of the question. 80 simpe said
he "s the question that the debate be- submit,
very extended; and have no idea that any member Of
the body wishes to debate IL merely to postpone vote"
in which in came from the House Of sentaves It
would be impraeable for the Government TO transact is
business. Ii would be necessary to amend the hill In
order to enable the Government to transact its business,
and those amendments would necessarily excite or
less discussion The bill cut t OIL the fTanh1g privilege
person in the country and provided no substitute.
Mr.. Iaamsey-The departments OF this Government can
pay Their postage very readily, as Well as any other e1-
MI Edmunds-Out Of what funds
Mr. Ramsey-The funds of the departments. There is
no difficulty on that score at all. -. o. .-,-.,.-
the postal laws this bf makes necessary should bo
fccty we'll TO make as the Chairman Of the Committee
Post-Ofices and Post Roads proposed TO make, in
separate bill all those changes which the abolition OF the
Frankng Privilege would entail : II so, then he sub
mitted they might pass the BILL pure and simple as il
general revision Of the postal laws make thoss
changes which there has been difficulty in making in
GaEtsa 10 IN make srhha fham or else "n'e ''
Mr. Wilams-When it is conceded that n this bill be-
n liyl vi NJ
ike to know what haste there is about its enactment:
that we can agree upon details of any bill revising
the postal laws OF the countryf think we ought 10
pass it, and not pass bin when we know il ought not to
be the law hoping at some future time 10 amend and
MT ConRinsI beg to Say to the Honorable senator
that did not say what he imputes TO methat THIS bil
requires amendment. simply said that If the Franking
Privilege swept away matter by what bill, OF
in regard to other matters in the postal laws
did not say that this bill would require amendment;
and say that all We need do Is to pass this Bill pre-
tant and in the mean tme in Of those bills which
must inevitably lie passed for other purposes et us
make those reyisions and changes IN the postal laws
which will be necessary To assume that when We pas
this bill shall not adopt the appropriate measures to
submit to the honorable senator, Is entirely
out OF all reasonable question. ,., ,o
he assumed that the franking privilege was abolished IN
England without any accompanying measures; Mr.
sumner Summers denied % that the frankne privilege had
isted in France or Germany; MI MI oPnkhg sam 'h"'
left os oss fhe
Sa ha& fs s RSssf
except with the heads of Governmehts IL found no par
the system was abolished in England 1t was
ation and in combination with other important meas
was Podred and changed 1t was at that time that
cheap postage or penny postage was estabshedi ana
transition,
have such proposition before you now proposed
providing any substitute and without giving the peo
pie in Gheag poage In ,b England tha,
postage Of the greatest bo9ns eyer youeh
abolition OF the ranking system Now, have the t
BILE proposition, which hope to move substitute for
ton having in it some Of the same conditions which will
he found in the English system. That is measure to
to facilitate it, and at the time to abolish the frank
ing privilege have measure which hope is to Ger
tainly complete than this proposition merely TO
oblerate the franking system The Senator from New
by itself; that may 90 on and aye or no for
or against the franking system. i have already
stitute broader measure, proposing to cheaper the
whole postal service of the country aud TO simplify 1t,
Shall not that he considered shall To the alb
soute abolition Of the frankng system without consid'
Senate is this afternoon disposed to proceed with the
consideration of the broad question that opened by
this proposition; and would say am not. did not
tiipae that il could up to-day, and not pre-.
pared with statistics and papers which, at the proper
fore, we had better proceed with the appropriation
bill, and then in due time take up the bilf Of my
friend, the Chairman of the Committee Post
Offices and Post Roads, and proceed with its consid
Grafton When consider it let mature it; let
accept In present shape and condition but let
make it measure Of mature legislation which We
willing to stand before the country Who is willing
stand this alone without anything else Is
it worthy OF this the Congress Of the United sAtes Is
it worthy OF this Chamberi think, Sir, IL s for us TO
siderng this whole question TO present system which
will be benefcent in its operation.
Mr.. Cameron said that the senate had wasted tho
whole day; that the members had become demorazed,
and that when they got into that condition better
tO adjourn He, therefore, moved adjournment The
motion lost Mr.. Morrill, then moved TO pass
the present measure; but, after some talk, Mr. num-
lull moved adinurn The Inafinn