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The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

POLICE CoURT.-Looking in at the session of this
important branch of our judiciary, Thursday morn
ing, we were amused at what appeared to be the first
effort of a new native fedgeling at the bar from the
country - (kuaaina). He was defending a native
gentleman, whose perceptions were evidently obtuse,
as to the distinction between meum and tuum in the
matter of two towels, sworn to be worth twenty-five
cents each, the aforesaid towels being stamped as be
longing to the steamer City Of Melbourne. and sent
with other articles for washing to the Chelsea Laun-
dry, from whence they had been distracted (mild
term)-and subsequently found under defendants
shirt. The only testimony, and which was indeed
sufficient, being that of the proprietor or agent Of the
laundry. After a not very narrowing cross-exami-
nation by the learned counsel of this witness, having
no exculpating evidence to produce, he rose to ad-
dress the Court for the defence. An older member
of the bar, and somewhat of a wag, seeing the en-
barrassment consequent upon a debut, slipped behind
the young scion. and prompted him kindly during
the argument, which developed itself as follows
First point-the property is not that of the laundry
man, but that of the aforesaid steamer, and as she
has gone to sea, beyond the Jurisdiction of this
Court, ergo, the Court has no jurisdiction over the
corpus Of the prisoner. Second-there is only one
witness, and the presumption of the prisoners inno-
cence must be stronger than the laundry mans
assertion. But the third point was q staggerer, and
brought down the house, which was, that the value
of the property stolen was 90 triding that it was be-
meath the dignity Of the Court to notice such q small
mistake. The amazement of the Court at this novel
style Of criminal pleading, commencing with the first
point, fairly eliminated at the third, and the learned
counsel's attention was forcibly directed to certain
statutes Of the Penal Code. a classical gent present
quietly remarked, that on the third point, the counsel
probably referred to the latin axiom, de minimis Lex
non cuTat-the law does not regard tribes. Suffice
it to say, the Magistrate did not seem to see il, and
felt it his duty, Notwithstanding the able defence
made, to sentence the prisoner to six months refec-
ton upon the heinous offence of appropriating towels.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

The NEXT MAIL.-The bark d. C. Murray, which
was to leave San Francisco about the oath of last
month, will be due here with a fair passage down, on
the 10th or 18th, bringing our next mail.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01
NOTES OF THE WEEK.

q On the fourth page of this paper VIII be found
an interesting detailed account of the battle of Sedan,
from a correspondent present at the time.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

MAsoNIc.-The regular monthly meeting of Ha-
waiian Lodge No. 81, F. & A. NJ, will be held at
their rooms, Makee's building, ON Monday evening
next, at Il O'Clock.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

y The foreign jurors, drawn for the October
term, will be notified when they are wanted in at
tendance. The native jurors are called for Tuesday
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

- On Thursday last, by Adams & Wilder, the
house and lot on Emma street, owned by J. w. Ke-
awehunahala, was knocked down to A. ]. Cartwright
Co cQQ0
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01
OFFICE STATIONERY !

-LNCLUDLNG-
Lamberrs Violet Ink, in Stands, Pints and Quarts. This is the
only brand that will not fade in this climate.
IL varieties Of Glass Ink Stands,
~ varieties OF Bronzei, Iron. Glass and Porcelain
Paper Weights and Pen Racks,
Travelling screw-top Ink-Stands,
Best White Stationers' Rubber,
School States, Pencil Sharpeners,
Rubber. Wood, Glass and PorcUpine Pen holders, all sizes,
Rubber-Tipped Pencils, Propeling Pencils,
Lipman's Eyelet Machines and Blocks,
Six Sizes Bristol Board Cards,
Key Rings, Rubber Bands,
Dominoes, Alliance Games,
Chalk Crayons,
Slate Pencils.
Gilot's 303, 4o4 and Swan Pens.
Washington Medallion Pens,
Superior Sealing Wax,
Boxwood Rulers, from 10 to "a inches,
Bankers Cases and Wallets,
Transparent States,
Music Paper,
Envelope Paper,
Colored and Crayon Drawing Papers,
Late Styles Wedding Envelopes,
Blue, Red, Orange and Green Envelopes,
Hand Magnifying Glasses,
Paint Boxes, large and small,
Mathematical Instruments,
Magic Lanterns,
Visiting Cards,
Initial or Monogram Note Paper,
Fine Quilts, Quill Pens, and Quill Tooth Picks,
Ivory Paper Knives, Ivory Memorandums,
Patent Binders for Letters or Magazines,
Cards Of assorted Pen-holders,
Writing Desks and Tourist Cases,
Dissected Maps, Drawing Books,
Papier Mache Portfolios,
Cash Boxes, Sketch Books.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

u On Saturday last, the Bank Exchange saloon
formerly kept by E. Burgess. was r~e-opened by
Messrs. Siders & Quincy, on which occasion their
friends were invited to partake of q fine spread cola
ton, -
LR This evening at the Royal Hawaiian Theatre,
Mr.. Joseph Rayner, tragedian, recently from Austria
liza, will give an entertainment in recitations from
Shakespeare and other authors, assisted by Mr.. Jas.
Neill. AS Mr.. Rayner comes well mmen as
an elocutionist, we bespeak for him an appreciative
audience. See advertisement.
SCHOONER MARILDA AsHoRE.-By the arrival of
the schooner Active this morning, we learn of the
total loss of the schooner Marilda, on Sunday night
last, ON the leeward shore of the island of Kahoolawe.
No lives lost. The weather to the windward is re-
ported as having been very thick and squally. Capt.
Berrill returns in the Nettie Merrill.
NAvAL-H. B. NJ. S. S. Ringdove, three guns,
double screw gun vessel, Commander E. J. Brooks,
arrived at this port on the evening of the 9th, Sept,
after a voyage of q days from Mazatlan. She sighted
the South Island at daylight on Saturday, but owing
to the thickness of the weather and want of observa-
ton for two days previous, was unable to ascertain
her correct position, and consequently got up steam
and stood out to sea to await a favorable opportunity
of observing the ships correct position. The Ring
dore has been employed on the Pacific station for the
last eighteen months, principally on the coast of
Central America and Peru. Her last station was
Mexico, where she had been ordered from Vancouvers
by Rear Admiral Farguhar, to look after the rebel
gun boat Forcard, which had taken $4,000 of
goods from Guymas, several months before, She pro-
ceeds from this port to Japan. The following is q
list of her officers:
CoNMASDER-E. j. Brooks.
Sub. LIEUT.. j. Pntchard.
Nav. Lieut.-Jno. A. Jones.
surgeon--Jno. White I'D.
Paymaster-Weatherey.
Chief gineer-Forste
Asst. Engineer-Savage, Little.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

MONDAY, /: /: {: October 18th,
AT 10 O'CLOCK, A. NJ, CoSsrs1Ise OF
Parlor, Bed Room and Kitchen Furniture!
Mahogany centre table. Hair cloth sofa,
Marble top mahogany sidebOard, Walnut WhaSnot,
Work tables, Chandelier and chandelier vases,
One elegant Brussels carpet, Eight day clock,
Card baskets. Books. Bedstead. Marble top bureau,
Chest Of drawers, washstaud, Large hair mattrass,
Mosquito net and bedding,
One superior Singer sewing machine, elegant Walnut case
Glass and crCckery ware, Meat safe, Cook stove,
Cooking utensils, Fine cutlery, etc. etc.
PIANOS:
A fine Rosewood case BichOrd, semi-srand Piano, BrOOdwOOd.
One Rosewood case Cottage Piano. Brinsmead.
One Palmetto or small piano, check action,
Trchord Tribe, Bond maker, Paris,
Music stool, and a choice selection Of Music,
INTINGS!
A number Of Valuable Oil Paintings, of which a full descrip-
ton will be given previous u sale
sGenune Paintings by Tuherg,.
1 Genuine Painting by Rembrandt,
1 Water Color, by Obrien,
And other Paintings.
1 Carriage Horse, Buggy and Harness, l Side
Saddle and Bride.
C. 8. BARLOW, Auctioneer.
ON SATURDAY, OCT. 18th,
AT II O'CLOCK NOON,
Near the Old Custom House. will be Sold at Pub
lie Auction,
Four Tubular Boilers
Taken out of The steamer Kilduea.
Length. Is feet, 6 inches; Diameter. 4 feet.
ALSO
ONE OLD BOAT ONE SKYLIGHT,
LOT OF OLD IRON, LOT OF BRICKS
Nuts, Cocks, Bolts and Pipes,
Lot Of Waste Pipe, Kettles, Boxes, etc.
Also, the Metal taken off bottom of Kilauea.
c.. 8 BARLOW, Auctioneer.
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01

u On Saturday last, the Bank Exchange saloon
formerly kept by E.. Burgess, was r~e-opened by
Messrs. Siders & Cluney, on which occasion their
friends were invited to partake of a fine spread cola
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume] (Honolulu, Hawaiian Islands) 1856-1888, 1870-10-01
Farina and TapiOca

ENROM THE KOLOA MANDATORY,
~ Of superior quality, constantly 10 fresh supply. and for sale
In quantities to suit Purchasers. at
T4e I'm y A. sCHAKFER 4 cos.
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STORAGE.

- THE CELLAR OF THE PRESENT
- Post-0hce building, with q capacity OF 800 TO 400 tons,
G&x Il 10 let If taken for q term OF years. will be let at q
very moderate rent Apply to
sl 3m II. u. WHITNEY.
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CoNMANDER-E. j. Brooks.
Sub. Lieut.-E. J.. Pritchard.
Nav. Lieut.-Jno. A. Jones.
Surgeon--Jno. White, NJ. ID.
Paymaster-Weatheriey
Chief Engineer Forster.
Asst. fredericksburg, Little.
Gunner-JaS. Barry.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17
RAILROAD TIME TABLE

RAILROAD TIME TABLE.
Chicago, Rock Island 4 Pacific
Railroad.
ILLINOIS DIVISION.
Day Express and Mail, 7.30 .. m. 6.45 p. N.
Night Express, 1000 p. m. 7.4o .. M.
IOWA DIVISION.
GOIse WEST.
Day Express and Mail, 7.50 g. m. 9.s5 q. m.
Night Rxpress, 65op.m. 7.20 =. m.
Western Union Railroad.
Passenger, $50 A. N. 6.10 P. NJ.
Mixed, 80 P. NJ. ll.50 A. NJ.
Rock Islana 4 Peoria Railroad.
Leave Rock Island, 100 g. m. and Loop. IN.
Arrive 1T Rock Island, Loo .. m. and 500 p. m.
E~ Trains run by Chicago time, which is Is
minutes faster than Rock Island time.
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We Believe in hQyertlslnQ

The ARGUS office is the best in Western Hi.
nois.
1t is the most thoroughly managed the best
equipped and appointed, and has the most skill
ful workmen money can procure
We do all manner of work in the mos
expeditions manner.
We can print cards on double enamel, pearl
antique, bristol, or china, in gold, silver, TINT
oOlors.
! Our visiting and wedding cards command
universal admiration
Our ball and invitation cards are typographi-
cal models
| Business cards, shipping cards, railroad cards,
stair cards, show cards, any other cards, don't
at the shortest notice.
Bill heads, checks, drafts, letter heads, envel.
opes, statements, bills of lading perfectly
executed.
We do splendid poster work, ofevery desorip-
ton.
/ Lawyers briefs, catalogues. folders, price
lists, speeches or sermons, printed at the AReu,
office unexoelled.
( We print warranty deeds, mortgage deeds
quit claim deeds, tax sale deeds, bonds for deeds
trust deeds, manufacture blank books, and dc
any other kind of work that can be ordered.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17
ERIE RAILWAY.

The GREAT THROUGH RoUrE TO THE EAST
This company now control and operate thirteen
hundred miles of road, extending from Cincin-
natl, Cleveland, Dunkirk, Buffalo and Rochester
to New York.
1t is of the six feet gauge, nearly third wider
than other roads, enabling the company to con-
struct and use coaches correspondingly larger
and more comfortable. It's track has been placed
in thorough repair by the substitution Of steel
rails at such points subjected to the great
est service, and where the highest rate of speed
is required to be made.
New and improved sleeping coaches accompany
all night trains. They are heated by steam, per-
feetiy ventilated, contain elegant and spacious
dressing and state rooms, and combine all the
modern improvements.
Excellent dining saloons are located at con-
venient points upon the line, where ample time
is allowed for meals.
Three express trains daily are run from the
western termini of the road to New FORK without
change, making as quick time a. by any other
route
The long distance run without change-S60
miies-and the spacious accommodations OF It's
broad gauge coaches. especially commend this
route to families and ladies.
tickets via this popular line can be obtained
ss Al priaeipal ticket Offices throughout the
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

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The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

quashed. Since the time Mackey was re
released he has been laying about the streets
drunk and threatening people in rufianly
manner. The creature is an ingram brute,
and when drunk is dangerous man to be
at large. He has been doing nothing since
he left Mr.. Dimick's employ ment except to
be engaged in the exhaus:ing toll of drink
ing pad whisky. He entered Mayo's store the
other day and made deadly threats
against the clerk, and last
Saturday night was engaged in q drunken
broil, and attempted to knock in the door OF
q house at the lower end of town. He was
accordingly arrested and brought before ESQ
Chopper, charged with drunk and disoroeriy
cond uct, and with vagrancy. he plead gun
tv to the two first charges, and begged that
no evidence might be taken. Esq Chopper,
however. insisted on hearing testimony
which proved him to be an iucsrnate 6end,
when under the influence of liquor, which
$25 and costs on several charges amounting
altogether to $500. He could not pay it,
so he asked Mayor Buford to allow him to
leave town This the Mayor did, giving him
two hours to settle mp his affairs and make
his final exit. 1t is probable he will 90 to
Davenport SO we give description of the
fellow for the benefit of the police OF that
city. II is more than likely he will cause
them trouble two hours after his arrival
He is medium height, slim built, Ratchet
face, receding chin, light hair and whskers,
the latter thin. He has loud voice and
talks exeitedly. 1t is probable he will get
their kind permission to seek more con
genual neighborhood shortly after his arriv-
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17
THE WEATHER VAEE.

EDITOR ARGUS In your issue of the
18th you commend the golden grasshoper
for vsne to the clock tower, as peculiar,
unique and ornamental, then you cast about
for arguments against it and ind TWO. First
grasshoper will not look like a grRsshoper
but trussed turkey. Secondly 1t should be
something complimentary TO the generous
dOner. MIR. Deyoe says tits too vain (vane J
q thing fer a memorial of Mr.. Walsh, his
memory is worthy of something better"
To these arguments by your kind permiss-
ion, beg respectfully to reply, the political
blow al the yane in the GaiC5. OF this NOR
mag is not argument properly so-called.
First who ever saw a turkey with head
like @ Hornet, horns like Unicorn and
legs like s. crank, twice as high as It's body.
There is not the slightest danger of II being
taken for turkey. Secondly, the beautiful
structure itself hOnors the benevolent donor
In reply to Mr.. Devoes argument this does
not in the least initiate against any further
and more worthy monument to the late MIR
Walsh, the great Entomologist, although
nothing can be more appropriate, at the
same time be an beautiful finish to the clock
and a ornament to the city.
The profile of Srasshoper is very beau
tiful, whoever has seen bedbug or indeed
sny of the bug family, know that they are
not so well adapted as their side view is
not so handsome.
Another ground of preference of a
golden Cricket. vane over a FISH. rooster,
kingfisher or an arrow, II is not so com
n on, is prettier. and looks less like copy.
i G.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17
Bargains BARGAINS Bsrgsins

In Dress Goods. Fluuneis, Shawls. Blankets,
Knit Goods, &c, &c. Having marked down my
entire stock of Winter Goods, will guarant ee
prices lower than the lowest
/ offer large stock of Ladies' Fur. at and be-
low cost price.
Embroidered and plain Linen Handkerchiefs,
Lace and Linen Collars. Gloves, Hosiery, Dress
Trimmings, &c, at prices that will defy eompe-
tition.
Mems and Boys Clothing, ready made; also
made to order in the most approved style, cheap
er than AIRY other house in the city.
Give NE call.
A. BANRERGFR.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

Two MORE OLD SETTLERS GoNE.-Tw o
more old residents have gone to their rest
Andrew Mcknight, Of Coal Valley town
ship, and Mrs. Margaret Fleming, Scott
co unity old settler. The former, native Of
ireian d, died at Presumption on Sunday, the
I'd INST, and was buried on the 4th. He
was native of the north of Ireland, of the
Presbyterian faith, and was ninety years
Old when ne died. lie leaves wife and
FIVE sons and a daughter.
Mrs. Fleming died at the residence Of her
onin-law, Mr.. Edwards, in Moline, on Sat
urday night. The funeral services were
held at Mr.. Edwards, at ten O'Clock this
morning, after which the body was taken
10 Davenport for intsrment.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

ARsus jon osrrcr.-So hattsriug has been
the public appreciation Of the character of work
produced in the ARGUS Job Office, and so liberal
has been the patronage bestowed BY a disorim-
mating public, that We deem it only necessary to
advert to the fact that our facilities are un-
squaled for doing any and All Kinds IF Job
Printing-from . delicate visiting carl to large
poster. Theatre managers, travelling showmen,
railroad agents, hotel keepers, steam boat agents,
and all those who have job printing to do, will
and 1t to their interest to send ut their orders
vbioh shall receive prompt attention.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

osrner Illinois and Washington Streets,
ROCK ISLAND, ILLINOIS
JULIUS UAHALT, Proprietor.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17
DEERE'S WALKING CULTiyAT0R

The experience Of the las: few years has ens
bled farmers TO compare the various Watkins
Cultivstors, test their merits and observe III,
result of the operation of each.
In the light of this experience we ask atten.
ton of farmers to the following reason ms VII,
they should buy the Deere Walking Cultivator
LIST. A creator yield of corn can be m ade with
it than with others, as they plow to create,
depth, effesting more thorough cultivation and
leaving clean fields. For proof of this we re.
fer to all farmers who have them in use
I'd. Our new patent axle with spindle cas-,
separate, and held in position by wooden pin,
efeetually prevents breakage, either from care.
lessness OF unmanageable teams When sub.
jected to undue strain the wooden pin break o. nd
saves any material portion of the machine from
injury.
Sd. Experience has shown that no Cultivator
can be shortened hey ond q certain point withou,
seriously impairing its working qualities: and
that ours possesses advantages over Others in
steadiness, breadth of sweep of shovel., non I;a-
bility to clog, ease of handling and quality Of
work.
4th. II conmends itself for its simnI;ctv.
strength, durability, ease of draft, and adapta,
ton to all work required Of a eultivator,
DEERE L co.,
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

Rock Island to Have . Female
Seminary.
II WILL COST $50, 900.

A few months since the Lady Superior of
the order of St. Francis, (Casholicl located
at Chicago, visited Rock Island with view
to making arrangements for the opening of
seminary in this city. No satisfactory
arrangements could be made at that time,
80 she went to other cities to obtain suta
bic site for such an institution. She went
to Evanston, H., with the view Of opening a
seminary there, which the Bishop opposed
on account Of its being too near Chicago.
Other places were visited which were all
deemed unsatisfactory locations. 1t was
then suggested that if she were to return to
this city liberal inducements would be OF
fered towards locating the seminary 81 'h's
place. She accordingly returned, ana ben
Harper and T. J. Robinson offered to do
nate her block on Centre Heights, back of
Mrs. webber's property. and fronting on
the Moline Boulevard. She agreed to take
this, the deeds to be made over to the Or
der of St. Francis, and to be placed
in the hands of trustee till the
building be erected, The building
as specified will cost not less than $6O, 900
1t will be one of the finest seminares in the
West. It's location is one of the most beau
tiful on the Moline Boulevard and will be
the crowning architectural glory of that
street which is eventually to become the
fine residence street of the city of Rock Isl
and. This is avsst step forward. 1t is an edu-
cstonal improvement which will go far toward
Rock Islands metropolitan advancement.
Messrs Harper and Robinson deserve credit
for their liberalisy, by which the whole city
is to be benefited. The conveyance of the
property will be effected withina day or two
and the deed consigned to the trusteeship of
Roswell Dart Esq. The building will be
commenced on the opening of spring.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

MACBRYDE is out with big hand bills OF
ering the whole of his stock for sale without
regard 10 cost or marked prices. Country
people will do we'll to come in and get some
OF t"~ bargains Mac says he will sell any
"f'.e'e ieF whatever he can get in order to
make a '0' e'esrance before purchasing his
spring goods. dw3t
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17
LOCAL COLUMN.
A Modern Gsllilso

When GaIlileo insisted upon the correctness OF
his theory that the earth revol sed around the
sun, he was not more earnest and determined
than Newburger Is TO sell out. IL is Offering his
entire stock Of Dress Goods, Flannels, Cloths,
Furs, Staples, Millinery and Notions, at actual
cost, snd all should avail themselves Of this rare
opportunity for procuring bargains.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

A'C'S oobs' At his saloon on the
corner OF Orleans and Ohio ,,ree,s has lust
received G. splendid lot of o.a Ko.oL
Bourbon whisky. He also keeps s,o 40,
sortmen, of TIE best wines, ales, cigars.
to be found in the city. He invites IT,,
attention of the public to this fact and
respectfully solicits their patronage.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

SEVERAL of our crack shots, including
E. A. Tilebein, also George Burnestou, Lou
Buford and others of Rock Island, left this
morning for Geneseo, where they are to
contest for heavy stakes at pigeon-shooting
match.-Dauenport Democrat.
The evening Argus. [volume] (Rock Island, Ill.) 1861-1871, 1870-01-17

REDUCTION IN CoAL.-The price of coal
at The yard of the Coal Valley Mining Co.,
in this city, has been reduced one cent on
the bushel, or % cents on the ton. 1t is
now II cents per bushel, or So per ton
The reason for this reduction is the general
decline in all commodities and the tightness
of the times. If gold continues at its
r,esent figure, or declines farther, the price
may arop lower yet.