The New York herald., 1870-02-02
ROME.

The lnfailibiliiy Question Discussion-En-
deavor to Return to First PrincipIcs-Na-
tionniities and Divergent views-EngIish
Newspaper Correspondence and Its Value
The Syllabus-Fenian DiHlculties--Premie
Gladstone nnd Archbishop Manning-A Car.
dinni's Hat for Westminster.
ROME, Jan. IL, 1870.
The partisans OF nfalbility want all the questions
submitted to the Council to be adopted per accla-
ndtsOnen. They say that the Apostles did not dis
much when the Holy Spirit visited them In the
Cgnoculum; but the bishops from Protestant coun-
tries ridicule such q notion They say that they
have far TO ratfy DEGREES Without examina-
ton and discnssion; that they consider themselves
judges, like their predecessors, between society
ana the Church. and shat they Will carefully ex-
anime and weigh every matter submitted to them
before they approve or disapprove lt.
Many Of the Italian archbishops and bishops,
some French and German, are surprised--dont un-
derstand the independence OF some OF the German,
English, American, Canadian, and Irish bishops.
They can't call them Galiican; they don't know why
they are 80 carefully interested In the matters sub
mtted to the Council; but the bishops in English.
speaking communities have different class OF peo-
pie to meet when they leave Rome to the Italians
ana Spaniards
The London papers publish the biggest yarns OF
any journals In the world about the proceedings and
VINO spoke in favor OF the measures under discus
sion. One paid compliment TO Archbishop Kendrlck
the other day. It stated that he read speech
the Archbishop Of St. Louis has read
no speech from anything. The other day
days before that occupied about i've minutes but he
did not read from a manuscript or from newspa-
per. All the stuff about the CARDINAL Archbishop OF
Prague IS untrue. He Is as dead against infaloity
Ms the Bishop OF Orleans. and even more so but he
lacks the ability OF Bishop Dupanloup TO give his
convictions force. what lie lacks IN brains he makes
up almost In influence.
The attention OF the Council has been chiefly occu-
pied with the questions OF the syllabus; panthesm
Dnturallsm, freeovlsm, absolute rationalism lati-
tudlnarlansm, ind nerentlsm, communism modl-
fled ratOnalism, &c, have been denounced. but
no one defended them.
The discussion OF these questions has no interest
for the English speaking bishops except few who
has mathematical secret societies one hundred
times, but still they flourish, and the con-
dennaton OF the fenlans | don't think win
take place as q distinct organization Dut under
the general head OF secret societies It Will
slap over the back Cardinal Cullen and
Archbishop Manning are busy at work to have
the organization speedily mentioned believing that
q thunderbOtt from the Vatican Will have more lnnu-
ence the enthusiastic sons or Erin than q pas
tora from Dublin or London. Many OF the Irish
bishops am credlbly informed dons think II neces-
sary for the Council TO do any such thing; that
England Is aDe enough to protect herself and that
sne mas never done nytnlng TO keep peace within
the Papal dOminlons. and they don't know what
good even thunderbolt from tue Vatican would do
Fenanism, they argue, IL an offshoot OF American
prosperity and the only way to cXtirpate 1t from
Ireland IL 10 make good laws and rigldiy enforce
them.
II has been stated but with what relation to truth
can't state tnat MIR. Gladstone has had long IN
terview with Archbishop Manning before he left
London on this question OF Fenlan censure lie has
promised to use all his influence with the Pope 70
ave Inc order Illuminated against It, and one Of the
reasons assigned TO mis- zeal in favor OF infalllDilty
Is, that he may have r0us,ng tine curse flung ut
every Fenian IN Ireland and America. If the Pope
Issues such u document he VIII receive an nt ma
ton that the British government would see with
pleasure the worthy Archbishop elevated to the dig
nifty or cardinal. "iou tickle me and III tickle
you."
| Cardinal Hats In Process OF Manufacturer
Where They are Likely to Go" Rationai-
Ism ''--A Dialogue With the Pope-Caiiiornin
ssAlI Right "-Erom tho East.
ROME, Jan. 13 1870.
There is no doubt that Archbishop Manning OF
Westminster, will be made a cardinal before long
but the dogma OF infallbility must be settled one
way or the other. IL does not much matter to him,
so FAR as his promotion Is concerned, how It goes
If defeated, he viii be rewarded for good services
II successful he will receive the prize Of triumph
There are many ats about the balance OF the
new hats, Last night heard ArchDishops Spaldlng
and McCoskey we're TO have hats and stockings OF
the same bright cooT but do not believe either OF
these gentlemen would accept such q dignity. IL
would be Incompatible with their citizenship
Query; would they forfeit the latter to become
Princes OF the Church, Archbishop Con.
molly, OF Halifax, Is put down for one II
would be a compliment to Canada on account OF hel
zouaves; there Is an appearance OF PROBABILITY
about the matter but the Archbishop don't like the
new dogma. Monseigneur Deschamps, OF Malines /,
sure to have hat, and o dozen Others viii be dis
tributed In Germany, France and Spain II matters
20 on to the satisfaction Of his Holiness
At the last general congregation the Bishop o.