The New York herald., 1870-02-13

spindles but the reports published at tho CLOSE Oh
the great exhibition gave $500 OOo; anu ~ ~ r @
sh, the same statistics give only 80 600 ooe Tne zo
verein, represented a. loriniaao'o @ 400 nmSs'a
tor has only oOo; Austria 400 ooo SnS
| Switzerland, ], 500, 900. Such Is lne PictuIo
of the cotton industry in Europe Now et us
To what extent II protected. In FRANCS the pro-
feclye duly varies IRON fteen cents to three francs
the klog.. according 70 quaiity. Ia the Zoiverein
tecis only Inc low uualities OF large consumption,
while we do the reverse. IN Austria tho uuy 10
soras What then, in presence Of these duties has
been the importation OF spun cotton lnto FRANCE
In 1905 the value Of tnat rom M was n
| thirteen millions, the proportion Is only TWO per
cent. .., ,.. ~ ,oeo ,o,.
/ millions for the English importation.
| N. DIX FORBADE LA Observation-Disclosures We do
| not use tue same dOcuments you nave monthly
statistic, while have more correct one Tor the
whole year. But no matter; even n we say eight or
ten millions the proportion wll only be three per
cent. The distress In tie cotton manufacture does
| not arise from English competition, Dut from two
causesonc being tfansitory. Innean tie ,tctnGtaOn
us prices caused on the american ,cdr from which
England suffered as much as ourselves; the other,
OF mere durable character. Is the transformation
now III progress, mean the concentration OF the
trade the great establishments leading 70 the dis
appearance OF the smaller ones. But this Is an inev
ttaole law OF progress and "a the cottonspinninX
trade employs more OF the raw material than 10 did
before the treaty am entitled 10 airm that II not
IN q state Of decay. 1t employed, ~ nave SAID,
people speak or grand establishments do they mean
factories OF million or mLlOn and nai Of spin
dlesy by no means. In England great mousse Is
OF 100 600 spindies IN TACT no factory should DC
too large for the possible surveillance OF an inSpcc-
tor. And there is no reason why France should not
have establishments Of the sam magnitude, ana
mus sustain competition with ner nelynDor. what
have SAID about tue nucuatOn IN the cotton trade
may apply also TO tnat OF fax. You all know its
history it had moment OF very great prosperity
during the American war; then cotton returned
and max iell IN value. However. the customs
tnn In
raw material has increased even for tins artl
Gle la 1850 II was 200 OOO and III 1865 S5,000OOo
| Here also the movement OF concentration, OF
which spoke, Is coarse OF progress. come now
10 the wool trade France Is III position TO sustain
competition wl.h the foreigner. Since the treaty
OF commerce the exports OF this article nave largely
ucreased IN tho three years preceding the treaty
tLey were 22o, ooo,ooo, and In 1875. 'oo and '67
37 0O0 Thus, when the negotiations OF the treaty
nXed the protective duty on cotton TISSUES At hfteen
per cent, fearing less the competition III the wool
trade tnes imposed fifteen per cent for the first
period ana only ten for the second BuI facts which
could not possibly nave been Oreseen occurred The
American broke out and cotton became scarce
Then the discovery was made that Ssuirs woven from
tnat material mixed with wool were as good ~ those
OF cotton alone. kouba!x and Bradford lEng.and
Two towns remarkable Tor their commercial activity,
went largely INTO this trade the former supplying
goods to the value OF loOo01ooO aud tho latter Tor
NJ. BaAME. For 90 900, O00
NJ. DE FORBADE LA Ho2gETTB-So be II. hasten
TO come 10 conclusion l shall vote ior the Far
iaulcntary enquiry and nope 1t may be As general
ana complete as possible that 1t may analyze all the
dement's OF agricultural and industrial riches and
mat 1t may examine all those cast any Ing ht
On the deDale am satisfied chat this investigation
Will furnish the striking JusLIncat0n OF the treaties
and also the general c0nvcon that free trade Is the
patn III winch France ought to persist. (Great ap-
D2use.)
whica have reference to my department. the haute-
Marine, which has Deen frequently mentioned In the
DEBATE. they are wool and iron. In what Concerns
Tniers, whose conyictious fully share As 70 the
second 1t has been treated In very severe fashion
by NJ. de FORBADE Ia koquette, wno we see, Is not
partisan OF democratic industry. lie 1s only A.
lracted Dy the great establishments and even those
he Is prepared to abandon such step were necos-
sary 70 that England winch he describes ~ being 30
rich In minerals.
NJ. TnIGRs-I admit that the scientific progress is
In some way the Cause Of the present BitlauOn,
Dut not In 50 great measure rs Il stated. N. de
Furcade la Roquette mar be proud OF his Work, but
look upon II AZ deplorable. Nothing can be moro
the consequences to which they may lead engage
nents are contracted and cannot be terminated.
rne wnoe civilized world Is opposed to such con-
ventions Noise. Laughter on some bencheSI
M. BRAME-M. Tniers Ii right; tue treaties must
not he conOnnded with :he tariiis.
n. THIERS-YOu smile IN your ignorance OF the
SUBJECT tNoise). Everyone, except those who have
Interrupted me Ia aware that In England the
lrsaies are condemned and taat ,he e, minis ,nsIo
was no other means OF binding france. Tor II
| the nation had been consulted 1t would never
| have consented TO the arrangement. Tho Atm OF
February Is the last date tor denOLncing the treaty
but could not negotiations be opened with England
i
| taat day, and which would rend0r such step un-
necessary For that reason desire tnat tue Order
Of the day should be changed and tnat tue question
| OF the treaties Should be discussed tomorrow.
tiear. hear
n. DE FoRCADE la RoQUErrE-I am OF the same
opinion. i think that the deDate on the treaties
should c0ine on Immediately.
The PRESfDENr-fhere being no more deputies IN
scribed to speak the general discussion Is now
cosed. The ufst interpeatlOn, deposited by NJ.
Cazelles and several Or his colleagues IL to ask the
government 10 proceed TO Il parliamentary inquiry
on the consequences OF the Treaty. OF Commerce. AS
40 one opposes this motlon now read the order OF
The day, Win reasons assigned reatve " The same
Interpretations
Tho undersigned considering that the debate which has
taken place the Legislative body proved tho
sy parliamentary lury the OF the
Treaty OF Commerce. TO name puuc sitting aud
by ballot comttee OF twentyseven members 10 proceed to
that investigation
The Chamber has Therefore to fix day TO nominate
that body.
NJ. kuULLEAUx-D -DUGAGE--DOeg the government &C
ccpt The number OF Iweuty-seven members
1be PRES iDEST-It was no doubt established
by the authors OF the Interpretation to give three
members TO each bureau.
AZ. ThIERs-I still believe that the question OF the
inquiry should come a[er the discussion OF The COM
merclal treaties.
The Chamber decided tnat after the discussion OF
the FIRST INTERPOLATION should come on the bill rea-
live 10 tns measures to be adopted concerning the
money required by the city OF Paris
The proceedings were then brought to close.